TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, June 25, 2015
5:01 p.m. session
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16:09:22 >> (Off microphone)
16:09:24 >> Roll call.
17:07:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
17:07:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
17:07:19 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
17:07:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
17:07:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
17:07:23 >> (off microphone).
17:07:33 >>THOM SNELLING: Good evening, council.
17:07:35 Thom Snelling, planning and development manager here for
17:07:39 agenda item number 1, which is to initiate the 30-day open
17:07:43 period for the fiscal year 16, planning year 15, community
17:07:50 action plan, which is part of the five year plan.
17:07:55 We are in the fourth year of that and here to open that up
17:07:58 for public comment, and really to initiate the 30-day open
17:08:02 period for most of the public.
17:08:06 We have other meetings planned as well.
17:08:08 Vanessa is going to come up and talk about that a little
17:08:11 bit.
17:08:11 We were having extreme, extreme technical difficulties in
17:08:14 making copies, but your copies are being printed and they
17:08:17 will be warm in your hands in a few moments.
17:08:19 >> Can't wait.
17:08:22 (Laughter).
17:08:28 >> Again what we are doing is opening up the comment period
17:08:30 for the annual action plan, and --
17:08:37 >> Need your name.
17:08:38 >> I'm sorry.
17:08:39 I'm Vanessa McCleary, the housing and development manager
17:08:43 for the City of Tampa.
17:08:46 This is for the annual action plan which is part of our five
17:08:49 year consolidated plan.
17:08:52 We are in the fourth year of the plan, so with that five
17:08:54 year plan, we have assessed all the needs in the area, and
17:08:57 determined that we have three major goals.
17:09:00 That is to provide suitable living environments, providing
17:09:04 decent housing, and expand economic opportunities.
17:09:08 In the plan, president outlines what is defined as suitable
17:09:12 living environment and the goals that we will have along
17:09:13 with providing decent housing, and those goals and economic
17:09:18 development.
17:09:20 So today, what we are doing is, we have completed the
17:09:23 preparation of the document for HUD, which is a draft, which
17:09:27 will be put out for public comment
17:09:36 When we came to you earlier in the year we were putting
17:09:39 together the draft.
17:09:39 We also provided --
17:09:53 So the annual action plan talks about how we will spend the
17:09:56 money that is provided during this year.
17:09:59 Earlier, we provided you with a schedule, and we worked
17:10:02 through that schedule.
17:10:03 We had a public hearing where we opened up and were letting
17:10:07 people know that we would be drafting the plan.
17:10:10 At that time we started the RFP process so that we could
17:10:17 prepare a plan for how we would spend the funds that were
17:10:19 received.
17:10:19 So we are receiving in this next coming year an annual
17:10:22 allocation under CDBG of 2.7 million.
17:10:26 Home is 1.1 million.
17:10:28 Home was actually a decrease in funding of about 73,000.
17:10:33 HOPWA for Hillsborough, Hernando, Manatee, Pasco and
17:10:39 Pinellas County is 3.1 million.
17:10:42 That's an increase of about 10%.
17:10:44 Under ESG we saw small increase of about 8,000.
17:10:49 And we also just recently learned of our ship members.
17:10:52 This year we'll receive about 1.6 million.
17:10:55 Total of 8.9 million which is an increase of 455,000 from
17:11:01 last year.
17:11:02 So knowing what those allocations were, we then went into
17:11:06 the process of putting our request for proposals to the
17:11:10 different agencies and coming up with a budget for how we
17:11:16 would go about spending those funds.
17:11:18 So from the proposal, we have allocated about 3.2 million
17:11:22 for housing projects, 415,000 for public service, 300,000
17:11:27 for public facilities, nonprofits with building repairs.
17:11:33 As you know, we are still paying back the section 108 which
17:11:36 is about 423,000.
17:11:37 We have allocated 150,000 for economic development projects.
17:11:43 Program delivery and outreach is 200,000.
17:11:46 Emergency shelter grant, which is where we are assisting
17:11:49 homeless, with rapid rehousing and shelter, at 222,000, and
17:11:54 housing opportunities for people with aids is about 3
17:11:57 million, with just under a million for administration and
17:12:01 cost allocation.
17:12:06 For housing what we are looking at is providing some funding
17:12:10 for multifamily housing.
17:12:13 As you may be aware, the Housing Authority is looking at
17:12:16 doing some additional renovations.
17:12:18 They will be taking a number of units offline along with
17:12:21 D.O.T. has made a number of purchases of affordable housing
17:12:24 projects.
17:12:25 So we wanted to have some funds to support tax credit
17:12:28 applications.
17:12:30 We are required to set aside 15% for community housing
17:12:33 development organizations.
17:12:35 That's about 150,000.
17:12:37 We do want to encourage home ownership.
17:12:40 We are even hoping that some of those folks that are coming
17:12:42 out of those rental units, we can work with them through
17:12:44 housing counseling to encourage them to become homeowners
17:12:47 within the city limits.
17:12:48 We have set aside some funds for special needs, and that is
17:12:51 to be handicapped accessibility, about 400 that you tenant
17:12:56 space rental assistance where we are also assisting homeless
17:12:59 families to secure permanent housing, about 250,000, and
17:13:04 then one of our large, which I now get a lot of phone calls
17:13:08 on, is about 1.2 million for owner occupied rehab.
17:13:13 When we put all these funds out, we are required to do a
17:13:16 consolidated annual performance and evaluation report at the
17:13:20 end of the year.
17:13:21 Those go in December and that's where we evaluate how well
17:13:23 we did with the programs from the previous year.
17:13:26 And so far we have been hitting all of our numbers in terms
17:13:29 of meeting the goals in the five year consolidated plan.
17:13:34 So with that said, we are opening up the 30-day comment
17:13:40 period.
17:13:41 That will be from now through July 28th.
17:13:44 We'll provide the action plan online.
17:13:47 We have copies in our office.
17:13:48 We will be assessing public -- accepting public comments
17:13:52 throughout that period and then we'll come back to council
17:13:54 to adopt the final draft before we send it on to HUD for
17:13:58 August 15th.
17:14:00 In the meantime, we are planning to have a number of public
17:14:05 meetings just to let people know about the plan if they
17:14:08 wanted to hear more about it.
17:14:09 So on Monday the 29th we will be in West Tampa.
17:14:12 On Wednesday, the 20th from July 8th we'll be here
17:14:18 at City Hall, and on July 14th we will be in East Tampa.
17:14:24 If anyone has any comments or wants to submit any questions,
17:14:29 they can submit those to myself, and I'm providing my
17:14:32 address, phone number and e-mail address.
17:14:36 And we are also -- we sent this out in our newsletter that
17:14:40 comes out quarterly.
17:14:41 And the actual plan will be available on -- the action plan
17:14:45 will be available online.
17:14:46 At this time I'll entertain any I know you don't have the
17:14:50 document yet as we just finished it but you will be getting
17:14:53 it and you will have that 30-day comment period.
17:14:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: You anticipated one of my questions,
17:14:59 which is -- you already answered it.
17:15:02 Thank you very much.
17:15:02 >> Coming hot off the press, like hot-hot.
17:15:06 >> And was this presentation part of our agenda packet?
17:15:10 Can you e-mail that?
17:15:12 >> Yes.
17:15:12 >> Great.
17:15:13 Thank you.
17:15:13 >> Any other questions?
17:15:18 Thank you.
17:15:22 >>THOM SNELLING: Thank you, council.
17:15:23 >> (off microphone).
17:15:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Need a motion to close.
17:15:36 Motion from Mrs. Montelione.
17:15:38 Second by Mrs. Capin.
17:15:40 All in favor say aye.
17:15:41 Opposed?
17:15:42 All right.
17:15:43 We stand in recess till 5:30.
17:15:46 >> >>
17:37:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
17:37:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
17:37:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
17:37:21 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
17:37:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
17:37:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
17:37:28 Need a motion to open the public hearing 2 through 6.
17:37:31 >> So moved.
17:37:32 >> Second.
17:37:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: A motion from Suarez.
17:37:34 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
17:37:36 Any discussion on the motion?
17:37:37 All those in favor say aye.
17:37:40 Yes, sir.
17:37:40 >> Items 2 through 6 are comp plan amendment.
17:37:45 And just as a remainder and to refresh your recollection,
17:37:50 these are not quasi-judicial.
17:37:52 In other words, these are not rezonings, and it does not
17:37:58 require competent substantial evidence.
17:38:00 The courts have ruled that the standard is a fairly
17:38:05 debatable standard.
17:38:06 Just to remind you that there is a distinction and you
17:38:10 should keep that in mind as you hear it tonight.
17:38:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
17:38:14 Item number 2.
17:38:15 >> Good evening, members of council.
17:38:20 Tony Garcia, Planning Commission staff.
17:38:23 I'm basically a lead in.
17:38:24 You have five amendments before you this Henning evening.
17:38:30 The first is the adoption of your first potential. Com
17:38:33 adoption hearing.
17:38:35 It's a small scale amendment which means it does have to go
17:38:38 to state and regional review.
17:38:39 The next four after that are transmittal hearings which
17:38:43 means you will not take any action other than to transmit
17:38:46 them to DEO for further regional review by the by D.O.T. and
17:38:55 other outside agencies in Hillsborough County.
17:38:57 That is going to be the status of the action that you will
17:38:59 be taking on these particular plan amendment this evening.
17:39:02 Without further ado I will let Mr. Hay start with the first
17:39:05 one.
17:39:05 >>DAVID HAY: The first amendment for your review is 1501.
17:39:20 The map amendment.
17:39:21 Future land use map in the City of Tampa.
17:39:31 The plan amendment is a privately initiated map amendment
17:39:34 consisting of approximately 7.64 acres of land that's
17:39:39 approximately three fourths of a mile northeast of us
17:39:42 tonight at the northwest corner much Adamo Drive and
17:39:45 Channelside drive.
17:39:47 The property is currently divided by two different future
17:39:49 land use map categories.
17:39:52 A .88-acre is heavy industrial and the remaining 6.76-acre
17:39:59 portion is currently designated light industrial.
17:40:02 The applicant is requesting this evening that the entire
17:40:05 7.64 acres be unified under one future land use category and
17:40:12 to be designated regional mixed use 100.
17:40:19 First let me orient you where this amendment is located.
17:40:24 We have a planning district map for the City of Tampa.
17:40:26 We have the downtown business center including the CBD in
17:40:35 this area here.
17:40:36 The Channel District is to the south of the subject site and
17:40:39 Ybor City is in this yellow portion to the north.
17:40:45 As you can see the subject area is located strategically
17:40:48 between these three very important areas of the City of
17:40:50 Tampa.
17:40:57 Next, just to give some history.
17:41:02 We looked at the historic development pattern of the area,
17:41:05 but this is looking from the plan amendment site, you can
17:41:11 see it, the Crosstown expressway, and all the development
17:41:16 that's occurred in the Channel District.
17:41:19 And you can see the site was right at the gas works, and you
17:41:23 can see the gas tanks, the large structure in the center of
17:41:28 the picture.
17:41:31 Onto the aerial.
17:41:32 Here you can see the surrounding development pattern.
17:41:36 We have the Channel District to the south.
17:41:40 We have the YC corridor that runs up on the east side of
17:41:45 this subject site up into Ybor.
17:41:51 Downtown to the left.
17:41:52 Then the port uses to the south of the site and then Ybor
17:41:59 City to the northeast of the site.
17:42:07 There is also Channelside Drive.
17:42:09 Streetcar.
17:42:11 Next onto some photos.
17:42:13 We are going to start at the northern part and go south.
17:42:18 This is looking towards the Channel District across the
17:42:23 railroad tracks.
17:42:26 Next we move a little further to the east, and again look
17:42:30 south across the subject site.
17:42:35 Again the site here, and this is the roundabout over to the
17:42:39 left.
17:42:45 Next is underneath the Crosstown.
17:42:50 To look back and forth, Ybor.
17:42:53 The subject site goes underneath the Crosstown.
17:43:00 This is 12th.
17:43:02 Here is Adamo.
17:43:04 12th.
17:43:07 Channelside drive intersection.
17:43:09 And then the subject site.
17:43:16 Onto the existing future land use map.
17:43:19 You can see the subject site, the northern part, and then
17:43:27 this portion here is the heavy industrial.
17:43:30 We have regional mixed use 100 is in this reddish color.
17:43:39 We have mixed use 35 and then the CDB down in the lower
17:43:46 left.
17:43:46 Now if the map amendment is approved, the subject site of
17:43:52 both portions of the subject site would be zoned regional
17:43:57 mixed use 100 future land use category.
17:44:04 New Port Richey let's look at the impact to the proposed
17:44:06 impact of regional mixed use 100 is approved this evening.
17:44:10 Overall maximum developments would increase.
17:44:13 It should be noted that under any mixed use future land use
17:44:16 category, residential development can be guided either by
17:44:19 density or floor area ratio, whichever is more beneficial to
17:44:22 the applicant.
17:44:24 This may result in development that is above the 764 maximum
17:44:28 units permitted under the regional mixed use 100 category.
17:44:32 Also, the site is located within the central business
17:44:34 district bonus area.
17:44:38 Additional density can be considered through any future
17:44:41 rezoning process if the project meets criteria that's held
17:44:45 within the Land Development Code.
17:44:51 A number of agencies have requested amendments.
17:44:54 The City of Tampa staff has expressed concern regarding
17:44:58 proposed amendment and the potential for intensity and
17:45:01 density within historic Ybor City.
17:45:05 Those comments are included within your packet.
17:45:10 Once the concern was received Planning Commission staff did
17:45:12 review that issue further.
17:45:14 We can take a look at the subject sight's relationship with
17:45:17 the Ybor Historic District.
17:45:21 Here we have his Ybor City historic district map.
17:45:29 Red is the historic district.
17:45:30 Subject site down here along the left.
17:45:33 The green is the national historic district.
17:45:35 And the contributing structure is approximately 600 feet to
17:45:41 the north.
17:45:48 The subject site again.
17:45:50 Again
17:46:04 Again we have the subject site.
17:46:12 This is an aerial looking north.
17:46:16 Downtown CRA boundaries.
17:46:18 This yellow line.
17:46:20 The red line.
17:46:24 The historic district.
17:46:26 The central district periphery bonus area includes all of
17:46:29 this site all the way over to here.
17:46:35 All the way over here and then back.
17:46:38 So everything on this slide is within that CBD boundary
17:46:44 Planning Commission staff found that it does have an
17:46:48 orientation to Ybor City due to the adjacent railroad
17:46:51 right-of-way and the Lee Roy Selmon Expressway.
17:46:54 The site historically was more oriented toward the port and
17:46:58 the Channel District industrial uses than to the historic
17:47:02 area of the Ybor City neighborhood.
17:47:03 Though the City of Tampa may have valid concerns regarding
17:47:06 the subject site's relationship with the Ybor City
17:47:08 neighborhood, Planning Commission staff finds that those
17:47:11 concerns are more appropriately addressed at any future
17:47:13 rezoning stage which would come after this plan amendment
17:47:17 process.
17:47:19 Through quality design and high density project could
17:47:22 provide to the historic district while also providing for
17:47:25 development pattern keeping with the density of developments
17:47:27 that are currently found within other portions of the
17:47:31 Channel District.
17:47:35 Overall Planning Commission found the map amendment
17:47:38 consistent with a number of comprehensive plans objectives
17:47:42 and policies that promote a vibrant central Tampa area
17:47:47 through the subject site's location.
17:47:49 It has the potential of being an important link between the
17:47:52 downtown business district, the Channel District and the
17:47:55 Ybor City neighborhood, and with it being at the end of
17:47:58 Adamo Drive could also serve as a transitional gateway
17:48:01 between Ybor, Channel District and downtown.
17:48:04 The site is currently vastly underutilized with most of the
17:48:08 site serving as currently open storage.
17:48:11 Proposed plan amendment would further a number of policies
17:48:14 regarding the promotion of in-fill on vacant underutilized
17:48:18 sites.
17:48:18 Finally, the regional mixed use 100 future land use category
17:48:22 would be allow for mixed use housing within proximity to a
17:48:26 number of transit routes including the TECO streetcar line
17:48:29 which runs along Channelside drive.
17:48:33 Based on all that, Planning Commission found and recommends
17:48:38 to you this evening that the proposed map amendment be found
17:48:41 consistent with the goals, objectives and policies of the
17:48:44 comprehensive plan.
17:48:45 And that conclude my presentation.
17:48:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from council?
17:48:51 Okay.
17:48:53 Anyone from the public wish to speak on item number 2?
17:48:56 >> Good evening.
17:49:08 Members of City Council, my name is Donald Phillips.
17:49:10 I'm at 147 West Platt street here in Tampa.
17:49:16 Just a quick fact story on this.
17:49:19 This project is a culmination of essentially an attempt to
17:49:23 do some community good along with a good project.
17:49:29 In the time that I served, the six years I served as chair
17:49:32 or vice chair of the Tampa Hillsborough expressway
17:49:35 authority, we were involved in a number of projects that we
17:49:38 spearheaded, partnerships that included the lightning of the
17:49:44 bridges over Tampa which seems to be a logical thing, makes
17:49:47 sense ton do, a lot more work than you can imagine, pursuing
17:49:51 and receiving a tiger grant, completion for the Riverwalk
17:49:55 project.
17:49:56 The Selmon greenway trail and so on.
17:49:59 Also at that time, it became apparent to me that one of the
17:50:04 transit options suffering a great deal was that of the
17:50:06 streetcar, and I think we all know the story of that.
17:50:11 In the past five years serving on the Board of Directors for
17:50:13 the economic Development Corporation of Hillsborough, I
17:50:18 became acquainted with a number of folks there, and there
17:50:22 were a couple priorities that were established that we knew
17:50:26 that needed to be addressed.
17:50:28 One is that we have a desert in this urban core of our city.
17:50:32 Many attempts have been made.
17:50:34 A number of attempts are underway.
17:50:36 But a number of them are flawed in their basic ability to
17:50:40 create a space that is adequate and suitable for a grocer.
17:50:46 Number two of course is the streetcar that I previously
17:50:49 touched on.
17:50:50 Number four is how can we bridge the gap between the two
17:50:53 bookends of all the good things that have been happening on
17:50:56 a development basis in Channelside that we have seen occur
17:50:59 in the last decade.
17:51:01 And once and for all, stitch together all that's been
17:51:05 happening in downtown, Channelside, with all of those
17:51:08 efforts that have been gallantly spearheaded in Ybor.
17:51:12 Ybor is very difficult to find in its present configuration
17:51:17 if you are not from the city, and this area that we have
17:51:21 targeted has those unique attributes and also unique
17:51:25 challenges.
17:51:26 I was approached directly by the president at that time,
17:51:32 general Dave Scott of the Ybor planning -- the Ybor
17:51:35 Development Corporation, and he asked us to look into this
17:51:38 matter.
17:51:39 And so we did.
17:51:40 And we specifically chose a site that was immensely
17:51:45 challenged that could deliver a whole host of benefits
17:51:49 including addressing all of these various transportation
17:51:52 options.
17:51:53 We look forward to working with, during an appropriate
17:51:57 process, I refer to as a sausage baking of zoning, with our
17:52:01 friends in the community, but in close, just suffice to say
17:52:06 that we have received endorsement from the corporation, from
17:52:11 the historic Ybor community association, Mr. Capitano and a
17:52:17 number of others that approached to us take on this
17:52:19 initiative.
17:52:19 (Bell sounds)
17:52:20 We would like you to know that we do intend to continue to
17:52:22 work with them, but we ask that at least the basis of the
17:52:27 comprehensive land use plan be allowed to proceed.
17:52:31 Thank you.
17:52:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you for your comments.
17:52:33 Anyone else wish to speak at this time?
17:52:42 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development.
17:52:45 Mr. Hay noted the objections that we have from planning and
17:52:49 development, Land Development Corporation and urban and
17:52:52 design.
17:52:52 I want to highlight those really quickly for you.
17:52:54 Based on some of the comprehensive plan policies as well as
17:52:57 the reference ultimately to the CRA plan to the Adamo
17:53:03 redevelopment corridor study that was done in 2007.
17:53:07 Just for clarification purposes, the totals in the summary
17:53:21 (off microphone) and 3.5 F.A.R.
17:53:29 Given the size of the site, obviously being huge not huge in
17:53:57 size, obviously it would go up higher.
17:54:06 35 units per acre.
17:54:07 Also mixed use category.
17:54:11 Within the periphery they could receive potential of 4. F.
17:54:18 A R. which would give them 1.3 million square feet.
17:54:30 Just to highlight quickly, the transition and scale.
17:54:39 13.3, urban design.
17:54:46 The policy itself, 13.3.9, that the city shall require.
17:54:53 The scale and maximum element of higher density provided
17:55:00 appropriate transition with (off microphone) and it's noted
17:55:09 in the comp plan the 100 category.
17:55:11 Obviously, they are allowed 24 which is in the back of the
17:55:17 material of Mr. Hay's report but those clearly stay within
17:55:20 Ybor.
17:55:22 This property is 250 feet of the boundary of the district.
17:55:31 This map shows the zoning classifications.
17:55:38 This property is located right here.
17:55:40 And this is one property away from 250 feet.
17:55:50 In chapter 4, 23.1, which understood policy 23.17.3
17:55:58 recognizes the recommendation to the CRA redevelopment plan
17:56:06 to accommodate significant portions of Tampa's.
17:56:11 The redevelopment studies in 2007 as I made reference, this
17:56:21 is Ybor's vision plan, and this particular site which is
17:56:27 identified both the downtown CRA plan, as well as the Ybor
17:56:33 plan.
17:56:37 This particular site is included within the Adamo study
17:56:51 area, the study area, with the integrity of the Ybor
17:56:57 landmark district, the historic building district.
17:57:13 We are talking about setting the stage, and that's the best
17:57:20 analogy that I give people, in a comp plan amendment you are
17:57:22 setting the stage for some future show, actually, and the
17:57:25 future show is that development.
17:57:26 And it is what kind of theme are we setting here?
17:57:30 Are we setting for this big massive blown-out Las Vegas show
17:57:33 or set something a little more moderate that actually fits
17:57:36 the character around it?
17:57:38 Looking at this particular piece of property, in very near
17:57:42 proximity to the landmark district, it's our recommendation
17:57:45 that this particular category shouldn't be approved based on
17:57:48 the Don conclusions of the study in 2007 at the ab dam open
17:57:51 study, as well as the policies, and I will turn those in for
17:57:57 the record as well.
17:57:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
17:58:00 Any questions?
17:58:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Coyle, it looks like our economic and
17:58:13 urban development department is in favor of this particular
17:58:16 project.
17:58:18 Am I correct?
17:58:19 I mean, did you know that or did you see it?
17:58:21 It was written to Mary over here.
17:58:26 I'm just curious, have you seen that?
17:58:29 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I'm not in that department so ...
17:58:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
17:58:33 All right, I got you.
17:58:36 I'm just confused, you know.
17:58:38 Obviously typically --
17:58:40 >> Works for the Ybor City CRA.
17:58:43 She's not our staff.
17:58:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The question I have is economic development
17:58:47 is saying one thing.
17:58:48 You are saying something else.
17:58:49 And we probably shouldn't approve it based on this request,
17:58:54 correct?
17:59:01 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's correct.
17:59:02 We are evaluating it based on --
17:59:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I know, we are at cross purposes because
17:59:07 usually these scenes are worked out behind the scenes, not
17:59:09 here.
17:59:10 I was just curious if you had known.
17:59:12 Thank you.
17:59:12 >>HARRY COHEN: Well, I think that the point you raised for
17:59:23 the port, and I know -- I have great respect for the opinion
17:59:27 of you and your department.
17:59:29 I will tell you, I think that this is a very exciting
17:59:31 opportunity for this area.
17:59:32 It is basically -- you know, it's sort of an area of neglect
17:59:42 right smack in the middle of three of our most important
17:59:45 districts that we are working so hard to somehow join
17:59:49 together.
17:59:49 And what I see about this being so exciting is that it's
17:59:53 something to anchor, building this one area that if it build
17:59:59 up just a little, it will really unit Channelside and
18:00:04 downtown, and that's never going to happen unless you put
18:00:06 people there.
18:00:07 And from my point of view, I think this is the perfect place
18:00:11 for than the density.
18:00:15 And it provides walkability to a huge portion of our
18:00:19 economic center.
18:00:20 It fits right on what we hope will be an enhanced street car
18:00:24 line.
18:00:25 It's right there at the port.
18:00:26 And while it's close to Ybor -- and that makes it
18:00:31 attractive -- I don't think that something built 250 feet
18:00:36 away on the south side of Adamo Drive -- you know, Adamo
18:00:40 Drive is a pretty big divider between Ybor to the north and
18:00:46 what's south of it.
18:00:47 And it just seems to me that this is something that rather
18:00:52 than negatively impacting the historic district might be
18:00:55 very complementary to it.
18:00:58 >>CATHERINE COYLE: On the north side of Adamo, the
18:01:04 Crosstown, then heading south.
18:01:11 (off microphone).
18:01:12 >>HARRY COHEN: Yeah, but it also sits fairly far toward
18:01:20 downtown.
18:01:20 >> And our point is that development -- you get to the .40
18:01:30 F.A.R. and over 3 million square feet.
18:01:34 Land use category -- intense commercial, intense multifamily
18:01:43 categories.
18:01:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mrs. Capin.
18:01:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Mrs. Coyle, leave that up there, please.
18:01:54 Yes, ma'am.
18:01:55 I tend to agree that this is a perfect location for
18:01:59 development.
18:02:01 It's just perfect.
18:02:02 And that it would unite all these areas, and the people that
18:02:08 are needed to weigh in on things that happen in Ybor.
18:02:15 However, when you look at this, and it's 2,329,000 square
18:02:22 feet, as compared to 1,331,193 square feet, that does
18:02:33 concern me, because what size will that building be?
18:02:39 It doesn't even match anything on Channelside.
18:02:42 Forget Ybor.
18:02:46 You know, in Channelside that's necessary it.
18:02:48 If you go Channelside, you know, away more south, yes, you
18:02:53 have buildings that are taller, or very tall, but I
18:02:59 understand what you are saying.
18:03:00 However, I do look at this, and I do agree with my colleague
18:03:04 that this is an area that's like a no-man's land.
18:03:11 >>CATHERINE COYLE: (off microphone) it needs something,
18:03:17 obviously.
18:03:17 >> I'm trying to figure out is it reasonable to develop this
18:03:29 on 1.3 -- 1,331,193 square feet?
18:03:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, that's my point about the size of
18:03:39 the lot.
18:03:41 Obviously, you can only fit so much within that.
18:03:46 You have to ultimately go up.
18:03:49 And that's why I wanted this to be an Adamo study.
18:03:55 The height -- the conclusion that it ultimately has a
18:03:58 negative impact on the district itself.
18:04:01 >> That's where it's going to go.
18:04:03 It's going to go up.
18:04:05 Absolutely.
18:04:11 I can see your point of being 3 million whatever square
18:04:18 feet.
18:04:20 Being an issue.
18:04:22 So, anyway, thank you for bringing that up.
18:04:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
18:04:26 I understand, Mrs. Coyle, what you are saying, and I'm not
18:04:30 disagreeing with anything I have heard.
18:04:34 Does is it an eyesore?
18:04:41 I wholeheartedly agree.
18:04:43 However, that being said on the other side of the ledger,
18:04:45 Ybor City is not hard to find.
18:04:48 There are signs everywhere, and Ybor City does not move.
18:04:51 Even if you get lost you can find it.
18:04:53 Just follow the street car.
18:04:55 Just follow the signs on the expressway.
18:04:58 Or just follow the signs up and down 22nd street or 7th
18:05:01 Avenue.
18:05:05 It is one of the longest district not sizewise but
18:05:10 lengthwise and that has to be predicted.
18:05:12 What's coming here I don't know.
18:05:14 As stated by my colleagues, is something going up?
18:05:20 How high is up?
18:05:21 I don't know either.
18:05:22 So I would like to see something happen here.
18:05:24 I just don't want to see something that may be in any way
18:05:29 detrimental to the historic district.
18:05:31 It's the very fiber of the people who founded this city.
18:05:35 It's a memorial not only to them but a living legend to the
18:05:39 young kids and young at heart that like to go there and have
18:05:43 a nice time and eat, a great place to eat, many fine
18:05:47 restaurants, small and large, all sizes.
18:05:50 Very close to the port.
18:05:52 Very close to areas where you can walk around, and sooner or
18:05:56 later the street car as it makes it hopefully around a
18:06:00 complete loop.
18:06:02 At one time there was about 54 miles of streetcar and it
18:06:05 wasn't until some time back, about 15 years ago, that this
18:06:10 started to come back.
18:06:11 So Ybor City has been transitioned two or three times.
18:06:15 And I don't want to make it go through another one.
18:06:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
18:06:23 So Mrs. Coyle, can you just briefly summarize your reasons
18:06:29 for saying that this would be inconsistent with the city's
18:06:34 planning policies?
18:06:43 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The -- okay.
18:06:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: While you are looking for that, because
18:06:51 I'm looking at the resolution from the Planning Commission
18:06:55 where they find it consistent, and reading through the
18:06:58 policies that they have cited makes sense, because, you
18:07:03 know, we are looking to policy 14.1.1, the city shall
18:07:09 encourage compact higher density development that is
18:07:12 compatible with surrounding character.
18:07:14 Now, you are pointing to the historic district on one side
18:07:20 but look across the street what you have on the other side.
18:07:24 You have the Lee Roy Selmon Expressway.
18:07:27 Policy 14.1.4, use limited land resources more efficiently
18:07:32 and pursue a development pattern that is more economically
18:07:35 sound by encouraging in-fill development on underutilized
18:07:40 sites.
18:07:40 There's no question it is an underutilized site but there
18:07:45 are many others in here.
18:07:47 This was mentioned by Mr. Phillips earlier.
18:07:51 Getting the density is what we are going to need to have all
18:07:54 of the vibrancy and the transportation options, that we want
18:08:03 to have.
18:08:05 So now why was it again you were objecting?
18:08:09 Or finding it inconsistent?
18:08:15 >>CATHERINE COYLE: And I do recognize --
18:08:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is it only those two? Because if not
18:08:20 you can --
18:08:21 >> No, I can scroll down.
18:08:30 The development is transition to scale and mass (off
18:08:39 microphone) provide appropriate transitions, visual
18:08:44 character of adjoining neighborhoods, and development
18:08:48 density, building height.
18:08:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right, sure.
18:08:53 But wouldn't they be required to come back before they build
18:08:58 and do a PD?
18:09:01 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes, they will.
18:09:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So when we as City Council and we have
18:09:04 the PD in front of us, we can look at what they are
18:09:08 proposing, and build in those -- I would hope that they
18:09:11 would be -- and they look smart enough, and I think they
18:09:14 have done this before -- to build in those transitions, you
18:09:20 know, not huge tower in the middle of that site.
18:09:26 >> I don't want to talk about the development itself.
18:09:33 This actually requires transition, and geographically state
18:09:39 adjacent to adjoining neighborhood, and that's the
18:09:44 difference between downtown Channel District and Ybor.
18:09:51 Understood chapter 4, which we actually have community
18:09:57 development area plans for Ybor and for downtown.
18:10:05 And Ybor is recognized as the downtown business as adjacent
18:10:10 Ybor City neighborhood.
18:10:11 And within that neighborhood, the Ybor City CRA plan, that's
18:10:18 where the 2007 study is referenced, and the Adamo corridor,
18:10:23 and see what that potential could potentially do, how it
18:10:27 could impact that district.
18:10:30 And that's what the conclusion said -- let me pull back out.
18:10:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, again, while you are doing that,
18:10:40 in fact in 2007, but this is 2015, and by the time this
18:10:44 development comes out of the ground, it's going to be a
18:10:49 couple of years.
18:10:51 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The study was done for Adamo corridor.
18:10:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: For the corridor, but we have the
18:10:55 InVision plan that was recently done, and that's encouraging
18:10:59 all of the high density, and --
18:11:02 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Nothing in the InVision plan contemplated
18:11:04 or even put forth that we would do anything that would
18:11:06 impact the integrity.
18:11:09 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Oh, sure.
18:11:14 The connection between this site and how it would impact the
18:11:18 historic district.
18:11:22 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Almost immediate proximity.
18:11:24 And that's what we are talking about.
18:11:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
18:11:27 But again, I guess a huge tower on that site.
18:11:39 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Ultimately again it's not necessarily the
18:11:41 specific building that they are proposing at this time.
18:11:44 Literally what is it, what's the maximum potential that you
18:11:47 are going to be granting, the concept of the land use plan.
18:11:54 What is that pattern that you are setting?
18:11:56 And ultimately, talking about range of use, and talking
18:12:02 about adding in higher density with mixed uses.
18:12:06 You want to get -- as a mixed use category, you can actually
18:12:16 use it for maximum potential F.A.R. as long as you get the
18:12:20 uses that have commercial uses, and they are still looking
18:12:28 at 1.3-plus million feet versus the potential of 2.3
18:12:35 million.
18:12:35 We are really looking -- this site is only so big.
18:12:40 So, yes, we want as much development as we can within
18:12:44 context of everything else that's around it.
18:12:47 Not hopefully put anything else in jeopardy.
18:12:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
18:12:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mrs. Capin.
18:12:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
18:12:53 You know, a comprehensive plan pretty much is going to
18:12:59 dictate what's there.
18:13:00 And I totally understand.
18:13:02 It's hard once you have designated this very large, massive
18:13:14 designation on the comprehensive plan to then back off.
18:13:22 I understand what you are saying, and I think that we need
18:13:26 to really look at this very, very closely as to what we
18:13:32 grant -- what -- as you said, we are setting the stage.
18:13:36 That's a very good word, because we are setting the stage
18:13:39 for what will be there in the future.
18:13:43 And I think your point is very well taken.
18:13:51 So like I said, our comprehensive plan dictates what will be
18:14:00 there pretty much.
18:14:04 So that's the concern.
18:14:06 So I don't know that -- I would adhere to your suggestion.
18:14:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Suarez.
18:14:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
18:14:15 One last thing.
18:14:16 And this is what always confuses me about what goes on
18:14:19 between comprehensive plan and planning and other things.
18:14:22 Currently, the thing that you just showed us in terms of the
18:14:25 square footage that's there now, 500,000 square feet,
18:14:28 somewhere in that neighborhood, versus what the potential
18:14:31 would be with the comp plan change, and it is already for
18:14:38 high industrial use within the comp plan, if I am not
18:14:41 mistaken.
18:14:42 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes.
18:14:46 Kind of underneath the ramp, HI.
18:14:49 >> I guess the question I have of you, and this is a general
18:14:51 question.
18:14:52 As a layman its hard for me to understand why is an
18:14:55 industrial use, you know, not -- and what's already there --
18:15:01 intensive to have an effect on what they did to the
18:15:05 neighborhood anyway.
18:15:05 I mean, they cut two freeways for the neighborhood, okay?
18:15:09 I mean, of course neither one of us were involved in the
18:15:15 decision.
18:15:15 I'm just saying, you know, yes, we are going to compact the
18:15:19 amount of square footage that's available for that
18:15:22 particular project, but why is height a much more important
18:15:27 aspect when the industrial use has already been there over
18:15:30 the years?
18:15:31 I don't understand that.
18:15:32 I don't expect you to plain -- explain to the me live now,
18:15:37 live here, but it is kind of an interest thing is why is
18:15:40 heavy industrial not more of an intensive use than hate?
18:15:43 You know, there are places in New York City.
18:15:45 Height is not really as much of an issue with it for
18:15:48 different specific reasons.
18:15:52 All kind of other things.
18:15:53 But what you can see and what you can't see.
18:15:56 But why is that so intensive in the mind of somebody like
18:15:59 you that thinks that that's a bigger deal than what
18:16:03 potentially could be there because of the high industrial
18:16:06 use that's already been there, and with the freeway, and
18:16:09 with all the other stuff?
18:16:10 That's what I don't understand.
18:16:12 If you understand what I'm saying.
18:16:13 >> I do.
18:16:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: How is height that much more important than
18:16:18 every other aspect?
18:16:20 That's the only question I would ask.
18:16:21 >>CATHERINE COYLE: (off microphone) and it's a very good
18:16:26 observation.
18:16:27 There's the intensity of the scale, mass, development
18:16:30 itself, and the intensity, the attributes just to point out
18:16:39 the industrial, 6.76 acres of the 7.64 is actually light
18:16:45 industrial.
18:16:46 It's IG zoning which is one step above CI zoning.
18:16:52 The difference that you can tap individual components of
18:16:58 something and assemble that in an IG, but in an IH you are
18:17:04 taking raw materials and converting it into a product.
18:17:07 And that's where you get that noxious potential toxic type
18:17:11 of agent.
18:17:12 There's only one acre of the property.
18:17:14 A little less than an acre actually heavy industrial.
18:17:17 The bulk of it is light industrial.
18:17:19 And that has a 1.5 F.A.R.
18:17:22 So under this proposal the 3.5, 7.0, even running it at 3.0
18:17:31 from would be 83,000 square feet.
18:17:36 Again, that's a lot of square footage for light use.
18:17:42 It could be more intense use, shopping, whatever else us
18:17:45 want to put in there.
18:17:47 The difference that you have to worry about what's there
18:17:50 today is residential.
18:17:51 You cannot have residential in this category.
18:17:58 When you add all those people, you talk about an industrial
18:18:01 use, there might be some intensity and some issues with that
18:18:06 light industrial use as far as noise, or odor, or raw
18:18:13 materials, assembly.
18:18:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: People are more noxious than some other
18:18:24 uses.
18:18:26 >> What it would be 1350 units on than 7.76, a lot of trips
18:18:36 with cars.
18:18:37 You know, multifamily unit,.
18:18:45 You are looking at a lot more activity, as well as the
18:18:49 commercial component.
18:18:50 And just the sheer size of the development that's going to
18:18:53 be.
18:18:54 That's really the comparison.
18:18:55 And we don't know what it will look like and the up part is
18:19:04 what we are concerned about.
18:19:07 In proximity to the district.
18:19:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have seen plants on less than an acre.
18:19:14 I know of one in particular in Brandon and I used to insure
18:19:17 it's and it is off a rail which you can probably hook into
18:19:21 where they are at now.
18:19:22 But again, you know, that's my point, that a nitro general
18:19:26 leak is pretty noxious and pretty dangerous.
18:19:29 Is that more dangerous than, you know -- I don't know.
18:19:33 Than the question is that.
18:19:34 >> And the only measure, the quality of life question that
18:19:39 you are really going to get into is that element of danger
18:19:42 is only
18:19:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
18:20:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone else wishing to speak from the
18:20:06 public?
18:20:06 >> My name is Bob Hunter, I address you as a private
18:20:14 planner.
18:20:15 Four years ago, I think it was, I was starting to talk to
18:20:18 you as Executive Director of the Planning Commission.
18:20:20 I would certainly encourage you to follow the recommendation
18:20:22 of the Planning Commission staff of finding it consistent.
18:20:27 I won't speak as long as some of the others but the issue is
18:20:30 consistent with the comprehensive plan.
18:20:32 You address an issue that you can get at the other issues as
18:20:35 it deals with rezoning, and the details of it.
18:20:39 I know the book you have shows anticipated ad valorem come
18:20:42 to the city is over 5 million.
18:20:44 Right now it's 9,800.
18:20:47 It's a substantial difference.
18:20:49 And you are also remediating the brownfield.
18:20:53 But the thing I want to dwell on is the intensity and
18:20:56 density that some people keep talking about.
18:21:00 As you are walking along you really don't notice anything
18:21:03 over three stories.
18:21:05 Unless you are driving on the Crosstown or someplace.
18:21:08 Then you see it.
18:21:10 What's important I think is the intensity that this project
18:21:13 has to contribute, not only to Channelside, pedestrianwise,
18:21:17 and activitywise, but also Ybor.
18:21:21 I think it will contribute to Ybor.
18:21:22 It's outside the district.
18:21:24 It's outside the two other districts.
18:21:26 And that could allow some transition.
18:21:28 I think this type of intensity would be a boost to Ybor and
18:21:32 Channelside.
18:21:35 I strongly encourage you to consider approving the land use
18:21:38 and let the rezoning determine what you really want there.
18:21:41 Thank you.
18:21:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
18:21:43 Anyone else?
18:21:46 Motion to close?
18:21:47 >> So moved.
18:21:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
18:21:49 Seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
18:21:52 Any discussion on the motion
18:21:55 Hearing none, who would like to -- Mrs. Montelione.
18:22:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
18:22:08 I'm on the wrong page.
18:22:11 Excuse me.
18:22:14 I move to transmit file number --
18:22:20 >> No, no, no.
18:22:21 Number 2.
18:22:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Number 2, sorry.
18:22:26 Adoption public hearing ordinance being presented for first
18:22:28 reading consideration, an ordinance amending the Tampa
18:22:31 comprehensive plan, future land use map, for the property
18:22:35 located at 1400 north Channelside drive and 717 north
18:22:39 12th street from light industrial LI and heavy
18:22:42 industrial HI to regional mixed use 100 RMU 100 providing
18:22:46 for repeal of all ordinances in conflict, providing for
18:22:49 severability, providing an effective date.
18:22:50 >> Second.
18:22:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione, second
18:22:53 by Mr. Suarez of the discussion on the motion?
18:22:56 Seeing none all in favor of the motion say aye.
18:22:58 Opposed?
18:23:00 All right of the.
18:23:00 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda and Capin voting
18:23:04 no.
18:23:06 Second reading and adoption will be on July 16th at 9:30
18:23:08 a.m.
18:23:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: Item number 3.
18:23:16 >>DAVID HAY: David Hay with your Planning Commission staff.
18:23:19 Your next amendment for your review is text amendment 15502.
18:23:41 The text amendment is publicly initiated by the City of
18:23:44 Tampa.
18:23:45 The request is to create three new mixed use future land use
18:23:48 categories within the City of Tampa.
18:23:55 City of Tampa staff identified a gap in the current future
18:24:01 land use categories regarding the ability to provide areas
18:24:03 that are ideal for mixed use development but that were
18:24:07 sensitive to existing residential uses.
18:24:10 Currently, the suburban mixed use 6 future land use category
18:24:14 roughly located within Tampa provides for suburban tape
18:24:20 pattern that would not be appropriate in many older areas of
18:24:22 the City of Tampa.
18:24:23 In suburban mixed use 6 is capped at 2001 units per acre or
18:24:29 .5 floor area ratio.
18:24:31 The next category up from that suburban mixed use is the
18:24:34 community mixed use 35 which jumps up to a 27.0 floor area
18:24:39 ratio and allows consideration for up to commercial general
18:24:43 uses which includes minor vehicular repairs, small dry
18:24:48 cleaning plant, other uses that may not be appropriate
18:24:50 within a neighborhood setting.
18:24:57 Let's review the three proposed categories.
18:25:01 The first is the neighborhood mixed use 16 category, would
18:25:07 allow for 16 dwelling units per acre.
18:25:10 Floor area ratio, and floor area ratio of .5 for all
18:25:16 nonresidential uses, and up to .75 for a vertically
18:25:22 integrated mixed use building or just a residential
18:25:25 building.
18:25:28 And it is similar to existing mixed use category for
18:25:33 residential units can be guided either by density or the
18:25:36 floor area ratio.
18:25:38 Similar to the other categories.
18:25:45 The next category would be a neighborhood mixed use 24 which
18:25:49 allows for up to 24 dwelling units per acre, floor area
18:25:55 ratio of 7.5 for nonresidential uses and up to 1.0 floor
18:26:00 area ratio for those vertically mixed use projects for
18:26:04 residential projects.
18:26:06 And again, the uses would be limited to neighborhood CM
18:26:11 commercial use.
18:26:14 Onto the next category, the neighborhood mixed use 35, and
18:26:22 density of 35, floor area ratio for nonresidential uses and
18:26:32 1.5 for vertical use for residential only projects to
18:26:35 encourage development more within older areas of our city,
18:26:40 and again, commercial uses would be limited to neighborhood
18:26:45 CM use.
18:26:49 There were no objections from the reviewing agencies.
18:26:55 None expressed any concerns to the proposed amendment.
18:26:59 Overall Planning Commission staff found the text amendment
18:27:02 consistent with a number of comprehensive plans, objectives
18:27:05 and policies.
18:27:06 The livable city goals, provide central areas, mixed use
18:27:09 development, oriented transit within the three growth areas
18:27:13 within the City of Tampa which are the central Tampa,
18:27:15 Westshore and university area planning districts.
18:27:18 Growth management policies also promote additional
18:27:21 opportunities for mixed use development especially within
18:27:24 parcels that are currently just commercial.
18:27:27 Policies regarding the city's urban villages also promote
18:27:31 development patterns that will address the mixed use nature
18:27:34 of these villages and continue to allow for the placements
18:27:37 of mixed use developments within appropriate areas of the
18:27:40 urban villages.
18:27:42 Finally the comprehensive plan provides for the
18:27:45 redevelopment of our commercial corridors into vibrant mixed
18:27:47 use pedestrian oriented corridors.
18:27:50 These three new land use categories will provide for greater
18:27:53 flexibility in furthering that goal.
18:27:56 Based on that, Planning Commission did recommend that the
18:28:01 proposed text amendment be found consistent with the goals,
18:28:04 objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan.
18:28:06 Thank you.
18:28:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone in the public wish to speak on item
18:28:13 number 3?
18:28:16 Item number 3.
18:28:24 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development.
18:28:29 We are hear for any questions.
18:28:30 We wholeheartedly concur with the findings.
18:28:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Questions from council?
18:28:35 Motion to close?
18:28:38 I have a motion from Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mrs. Capin.
18:28:43 Discussion on the motion?
18:28:44 All in favor of the motion say aye.
18:28:46 Those opposed?
18:28:49 All right.
18:28:50 Got a motion from Mr. Miranda.
18:28:51 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
18:28:53 All in favor of that motion say aye.
18:28:56 Opposed?
18:28:56 Motion carried
18:28:57 Item number 4.
18:29:01 Truett Gardner, north Ashley.
18:29:03 We are requesting a continuance on this until August
18:29:06 13th.
18:29:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
18:29:19 >> I received it.
18:29:20 It should be in the quasi-box.
18:29:27 It was an e-mail from someone.
18:29:34 From your paralegal sent us an e-mail and the attachment I
18:29:38 think was a letter.
18:29:39 >> Yes, Tuesday morning.
18:29:42 >> I thought it was yesterday.
18:29:45 Tuesday.
18:29:45 >> I think it went to the clerk as well.
18:30:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It's there.
18:30:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
18:30:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: So what you were saying before?
18:30:09 >> We would like a continuance until August 13.
18:30:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: August 13th?
18:30:17 All right.
18:30:18 Anyone in the public wishing to speak on item number 4?
18:30:28 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Suite 3700 Bank of America Plaza.
18:30:31 On behalf of impact properties.
18:30:33 Mr. Gardner has extended a kind courtesy of me of explaining
18:30:38 the continuance.
18:30:39 We do not have any objection to the continuance.
18:30:41 I just want it noted that we objected to the application.
18:30:44 Planning Commission stage.
18:30:45 We want to make sure that is reflected in the record this
18:30:48 evening that our objection continues.
18:30:49 Thank you.
18:30:49 >>HARRY COHEN: Mr. Gardner, you may be aware we don't have
18:30:55 a council meeting on August 13th.
18:30:58 Our next evening meeting is August 20th.
18:31:03 Or August 27th.
18:31:04 >> Okay.
18:31:06 That will be fine.
18:31:06 >> August 27th, 6 p.m. 14 anyone else want to speak on
18:31:14 item number 4?
18:31:15 All right.
18:31:15 >> Move to continue to August 27th at 6 p.m.
18:31:21 >> Motion from Mr. Cohen.
18:31:22 Seconded by Mrs. Capin.
18:31:23 All those in favor say aye.
18:31:25 Opposed?
18:31:26 Item number 5.
18:31:29 Number 5.
18:31:43 >>DAVID HAY: Planning Commission staff.
18:31:53 Next we move to comprehensive plan 15-05.
18:31:57 Future land use map, to the future land use map in the City
18:32:01 of Tampa.
18:32:06 The plan amendment is publicly initiated by the City of
18:32:08 Tampa.
18:32:15 It's not privately initiated as misidentified.
18:32:18 The subject site is approximately under a little over 87
18:32:21 acres and approximately one mail to the northwest of us this
18:32:24 evening.
18:32:25 It's currently has three land use categories, about 47 acres
18:32:33 of the subject site is residential 35.
18:32:39 32 acres public semi-public.
18:32:42 And 6.6 acres is recreation open space.
18:32:47 6.36.
18:32:48 The applicant, the city is requesting that the site go to
18:32:53 two future land use categories, about 12 -- a little over 12
18:32:58 acres would go to the community mixed use 35, and the
18:33:00 remaining portion of 74 acres would go to that new category
18:33:07 just discussed in the text amendment the mixed use 35.
18:33:13 First, let me orient you to where this amendment is located.
18:33:17 Here we have our planning district map, the City of Tampa,
18:33:20 subject site is located in the central Tampa planning
18:33:23 district, up the Hillsborough River, north of 275, east of
18:33:29 Rome Avenue, and west of North Boulevard.
18:33:32 The site is currently home to North Boulevard homes in a
18:33:36 number of other public --
18:33:42 Onto the aerial here you can see the surrounding development
18:33:45 pattern, Blake high school to the east, Julian B. lane
18:33:51 Riverfront Park is down to the southeast, interstate 275
18:33:56 running along the south, Rome Avenue runs here, and up to
18:34:03 Columbus drive, we have the Hillsborough River.
18:34:06 The Ridgewood park neighborhood is across the river, and the
18:34:09 Heights project is over here.
18:34:11 Transit service is provided within this area.
18:34:15 Hart does provide a number of connections to a number of
18:34:21 activity centers including downtown Tampa, the West Tampa
18:34:26 center.
18:34:30 The blue areas in the center, I had discussion with the
18:34:34 school board and other entities, would remain
18:34:37 public/semi-public.
18:34:41 Next, I want to show you some photos of the site as it is
18:34:45 today.
18:34:45 The first photo is basically looking east from the
18:34:48 intersection of Main Street and Rome Avenue and across the
18:34:51 subject site.
18:35:00 We have homes from 1940.
18:35:05 Next, we are at the same intersection but this time look
18:35:08 across the southeast down towards 275.
18:35:16 Again, this is Main Street and Rome.
18:35:19 There's interstate 275 and that's the southern portion of
18:35:22 North Boulevard homes.
18:35:24 This area is the area that would go to the community mixed
18:35:27 use 35.
18:35:32 We move north.
18:35:34 This is looking back southeast toward the subject site.
18:35:42 This part of the subject site is currently utilized by the
18:35:44 city's wastewater department.
18:35:47 You can also see downtown Tampa in the distance.
18:35:52 Next we move to the southeast corner of the site basically
18:35:55 looking northwest toward North Boulevard homes from the
18:35:59 driveway of the high school.
18:36:03 So the North Boulevard bridge would be over to the right.
18:36:11 Our next -- finally we move to the bridge lag to the left,
18:36:18 this one I want to thank Google street view.
18:36:23 I couldn't stop on the bridge to get a good stop, so thank
18:36:27 you, Google street view for giving us ab view to the left.
18:36:34 Onto the existing -- this is the currently adopted future
18:36:37 land use map.
18:36:39 The subject site has future land use categories.
18:36:44 We have got the residential 35 in the brown and the public
18:36:50 semi-public in blue and the recreational green.
18:36:56 And that's interstate 275 to downtown to the lower right.
18:37:03 Here is the future land use map, if the proposed amendment
18:37:07 is approved.
18:37:07 You can see the subject site has been changed to represent
18:37:10 the new categories.
18:37:12 That salmon color are areas designated the new mixed use 35
18:37:17 while the lavender color I guess down in the southwest
18:37:21 portion of the subject site would be designated by
18:37:24 continuing mixed use 35.
18:37:28 Now let's look at the impacts of the proposed development.
18:37:32 You can see the density would increase up to potential 3035
18:37:38 units and up to almost 6 million square feet.
18:37:43 Those are development maximums.
18:37:45 Very difficult to get up to those.
18:37:50 That's the maximums under the future land use, the proposed
18:37:54 future land use category.
18:37:56 A number of agencies have reviewed the request and most have
18:38:01 haven't expressed any concerns.
18:38:03 The school board did say with the size of potential
18:38:05 development, that schools that serve the site do not have
18:38:09 capacity currently, and that just element and Blake high
18:38:14 school would not have capacity within the five year time
18:38:17 frame.
18:38:28 Again we are all familiar with the revision plan and process
18:38:32 is partly why this is coming through.
18:38:34 The city has outlined the redevelopment of this area.
18:38:44 This document shows the concept.
18:38:47 Planning Commission staff -- Planning Commission, excuse me,
18:38:54 found the map amendment is consistent with a number of
18:38:56 comprehensive plan objectives and policies including
18:38:59 encouraging a vibrant central area, promotion of mixed use
18:39:04 in vacant or underutilized parcel.
18:39:07 The promoting of a development pattern that is sensitive to
18:39:09 the adjacent development pattern, in this case the old West
18:39:12 Tampa neighborhood.
18:39:13 And locating of the new medium density housing near transit
18:39:18 service which is on North Boulevard.
18:39:22 Based on all that, the Planning Commission recommends to you
18:39:25 this evening that the proposed map amendment be found
18:39:27 consistent with the goals, objectives and policies of the
18:39:30 comprehensive plan.
18:39:31 And that concludes my presentation.
18:39:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from council?
18:39:36 Anyone in the public wish to speak on item number 5?
18:39:45 >> My name is John Arwine.
18:39:50 I live with my mom who lives at 1707 St. John's street which
18:39:54 is five houses west of Rome.
18:40:00 Just before you get to Columbus drive.
18:40:03 She's been at 1707 St. Johns street since 1964.
18:40:11 The question I have for you, will this impact where she
18:40:15 lives?
18:40:16 She's 84 years old.
18:40:18 So my question is, will this have an impact on our
18:40:22 residence?
18:40:24 That's what --
18:40:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: It would allow a different development
18:40:39 pattern.
18:40:42 >>DAVID HAY: It would allow a different pattern than what's
18:40:46 currently there.
18:40:47 It would come through rezoning here so it would be a public
18:40:51 hearing process, once any particular development is
18:40:54 proposed.
18:40:54 But the land use will not change the existing development
18:41:00 immediately, but the future pattern may be different.
18:41:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: West of Rome.
18:41:07 >> It basically will not have a direct impact on your
18:41:11 mother's home because with the economic development in West
18:41:17 Tampa, at this moment, the only economic development you are
18:41:21 looking at is houses project and that's going to take some
18:41:29 years for this to happen.
18:41:30 The other thing is they are looking at establishment of a
18:41:33 CRA, Community Redevelopment Agency over there that is put
18:41:41 into place.
18:41:41 But if anything it should enhance to receive grants to rehab
18:41:50 and do improvements to her home, and structure needs that
18:41:55 will be taking place there.
18:41:56 But all of this, this is going to be down the road.
18:42:02 I mean, they haven't even had the grant yet.
18:42:07 They haven't even applied for the grant.
18:42:10 So this might be five or ten years before anything happens
18:42:12 with the houses.
18:42:15 It will take several years to generate any type for the
18:42:20 Community Redevelopment Agency.
18:42:21 But there will be public meetings in West Tampa, and you
18:42:25 will have an opportunity to be involved in that process.
18:42:30 But this is -- these are future things they are looking at.
18:42:35 But immediately there will be no impact at all.
18:42:40 >> I appreciate it.
18:42:43 She has been there all this time, 84 years old.
18:42:45 Where would she go?
18:42:46 >> And so west of Rome, the housing project is going to stop
18:42:57 at Rome.
18:42:59 North Boulevard to Rome.
18:43:01 And that's where the housing development is going to start.
18:43:06 So the CRA will pick up from Rome to Amelia.
18:43:11 That's down the road, quite a few years.
18:43:13 >> Thank you, sir.
18:43:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: My pleasure.
18:43:15 Any other comments or questions from the public?
18:43:20 All right.
18:43:21 Need a motion.
18:43:25 We got a motion from Mr. Miranda.
18:43:27 Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
18:43:29 Any further question on the motion?
18:43:31 >>THE CLERK: Mr. Chairman, is the public hearing closed?
18:43:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's what I need.
18:43:35 >> Move to close the public hearing.
18:43:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
18:43:38 I have a motion from Mr. Suarez.
18:43:39 Second by Mrs. Montelione to close the public hearing.
18:43:45 All in favor?
18:43:47 All right.
18:43:48 We have a motion from Mr. Miranda.
18:43:50 Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
18:43:51 All in favor of that motion say aye.
18:43:53 Opposed? All right.
18:43:54 Thank you.
18:43:55 Item number 6.
18:44:05 >>TONY GARCIA: Planning Commission staff.
18:44:08 Before you is the last plan amendments for this evening.
18:44:21 This is Tampa comprehensive plan amendment 15-04.
18:44:24 The request was publicly initiated by the City of Tampa.
18:44:27 The request is to change the future land use map in an area
18:44:30 north and east of Tampa International Airport.
18:44:34 To give you some context on your future land use vision map,
18:44:37 this is one of three growth areas that this particular
18:44:40 project is contained within.
18:44:42 Specifically the Westshore planning district.
18:44:47 The site is, to give you some context, located the western
18:44:53 boundary would be Westshore, the northern boundary is
18:44:56 Hillsborough, the eastern boundary is Hespirdes.
18:45:00 From the west all the way down to the south.
18:45:09 Owned by Tampa International Airport.
18:45:10 This is basically something we have been trying to
18:45:12 accomplish for the last decade, which is as part of TIA's 50
18:45:17 year master plan.
18:45:18 They have been trying to acquire properties all the way to
18:45:21 Hesperides, and they have finally been successful and about
18:45:26 97% of all properties in this area.
18:45:33 The affected parcel is approximately 45 acres which consists
18:45:37 of 40 parcels.
18:45:38 The request is to go from light industrial to public
18:45:41 semi-public.
18:45:43 I apologize for the size of the font, but letting you know
18:45:50 that most of these uses are light industrial uses that
18:45:53 have -- that do have a maximum floor area ratio of 1.5 which
18:46:02 allows consideration of just under 3 million square feet of
18:46:06 light industrial uses.
18:46:08 There is no -- these are particular uses that are reserved
18:46:14 for specific tapes of uses.
18:46:17 Raymond James is that.
18:46:19 Many of our institutions have that same designation.
18:46:23 As well as Tampa International Airport.
18:46:25 This is the current future land use map involving parcels
18:46:28 outlined in black border, this one little parcel up here to
18:46:37 the south.
18:46:38 This is actually the county-city boundary rate here.
18:46:43 So this particular parcel will go from light industrial,
18:46:47 also public semi-public.
18:46:49 All these parcels here will go to the bright blue colors I
18:46:52 will show you on the next map.
18:46:56 So upon approval of this, after ten years with finally
18:47:01 technology catching up to where TIA was able to go ahead and
18:47:06 do what they needed to do to actually survey this properly
18:47:09 and accurately, to give us a rundown of all the parcels or
18:47:15 parts of parcels that needed to be converted to future land
18:47:17 use category, we finally have reached this stage.
18:47:21 The request is consistent with several policies and
18:47:23 objectives in the Tampa comprehensive plan.
18:47:25 We talked about recognizing the importance of Tampa
18:47:28 International Airport.
18:47:31 Strengthen the role of Tampa International Airport by
18:47:33 requiring adjacent development be airport related activities
18:47:38 and to promote and protect the utility of Tampa
18:47:40 International Airport, compatible to operation of the M.A.P.
18:47:47 land use category.
18:47:50 This will work very nicely with the master plan they are
18:47:54 doing right now, their one billion dollar expansion.
18:47:59 The largest they have done in the last 40 years to allow
18:48:01 them uses that are on airport property to the east of this
18:48:07 particular part of Drew Park, west of Westshore, and
18:48:15 Hesperides.
18:48:16 The Planning Commission found the proposed request
18:48:20 designating approximately 45 acres from light industrial to
18:48:23 public semi-public consistent with the Tampa comprehensive
18:48:26 plan and forwards this recommendation to you this evening
18:48:29 for your consideration.
18:48:30 As I said before earlier this evening, this is one of the
18:48:33 transmittal hearings, in excess of ten acres, that is
18:48:36 subject to state and regional review.
18:48:39 So your motion this evening will be to transmit to the
18:48:42 state.
18:48:43 Thank you.
18:48:43 This concludes my presentation.
18:48:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from council?
18:48:47 Anyone in the audience wish to speak on item number 6?
18:48:50 >> Move to close.
18:48:54 >> Second.
18:48:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Miranda.
18:48:56 Second by.
18:49:00 Motion to close.
18:49:01 Motion from Mr. Suarez.
18:49:03 Seconded by Mr. Miranda.
18:49:06 Discussion on the motion?
18:49:07 All in favor of the motion say aye.
18:49:09 Any opposed?
18:49:10 Okay.
18:49:15 We go to item number 7 through 9.
18:49:26 Motion from Mr. Miranda, second by Mr. Suarez.
18:49:29 Discussion on the that motion?
18:49:31 All in favor of that motion say aye.
18:49:33 Opposed?
18:49:34 All right.
18:49:34 Anyone wishing to speak on items 7, 8 or 9, please stand to
18:49:39 be sworn.
18:49:43 If you are going to speak on 7, 8 or 9, please stand to be
18:49:46 sworn in.
18:49:47 (Oath administered by Clerk)
18:49:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
18:49:58 A motion to receive and file.
18:50:00 I got a motion from Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
18:50:04 All in favor of that motion say aye.
18:50:06 All right.
18:50:08 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Land development.
18:50:10 This is application AB 2-15-10.
18:50:14 This property is located at 2908 West Gandy Boulevard, unit
18:50:19 B, property is zoned CG.
18:50:22 They are requesting for a small venue, beer wine on premises
18:50:28 and off premises consumption.
18:50:30 The proposed AB sales area is 810 square feet.
18:50:36 The property is an existing shopping center with 33 parking
18:50:41 spaces, and the site plan indicates that they will comply
18:50:45 with the chapter 14 hours.
18:50:47 They are asking for a waiver of distance separation from
18:50:51 other existing AB establishments from 250 feet to 28 feet
18:50:58 and from residential from 250 feet to 20 feet.
18:51:03 Again, the property is part of an existing shopping center
18:51:07 that is approximately 7600 square feet.
18:51:12 This is not a change of use.
18:51:14 The property is indicated that the use is going to be a
18:51:19 take-out restaurant.
18:51:20 No more than ten feet, and at that point they come under a
18:51:25 retail classification so that they are not required to
18:51:29 comply with parking or solid waste.
18:51:33 The site, however, does not comply with the distance
18:51:36 separations by code, and at that point we find the petition
18:51:41 inconsistent with code.
18:51:42 There are a number of minor changes to the site plan that
18:51:47 need to be corrected that are listed on the staff report to
18:51:51 ensure that the special use that they are requesting is
18:51:56 consistent with the requirements.
18:51:58 We ask that council have that done if they are inclined to
18:52:02 approve it.
18:52:04 Gandy Boulevard is part of the transit corridor, and this is
18:52:08 also part of the Ballast Point urban village.
18:52:14 I have an aerial that shows the existing location it is a
18:52:25 shopping center, I think called the Bayshore Square Shopping
18:52:27 Center.
18:52:36 This is the establishment here proposed where the alcohol.
18:52:41 There is another location that is the -- what is it called
18:52:47 here?
18:52:49 It has a 4(COP-R) designation within the same shopping
18:52:53 center.
18:52:54 The property in the back, there is additional parking.
18:53:02 The site, however, is directly adjacent to residential uses.
18:53:11 Residential on Gandy.
18:53:12 This is a photograph looking west on Gandy.
18:53:16 This is looking east on Gandy.
18:53:19 The property is adjacent to residential, the street in the
18:53:27 rear, and some of the houses that are located in the back.
18:53:35 Staff did find this inconsistent with code requirements as
18:53:40 to the distance separation requirements.
18:53:43 The police had no objection to this petition.
18:53:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Cohen?
18:53:48 >>HARRY COHEN: Just a quick question to clarify this for
18:53:51 me.
18:53:53 By my staff report, the waivers are listed as distance
18:53:57 requirements.
18:53:58 On the site plan, it mentions a parking reduction of 43 to
18:54:03 33.
18:54:04 And I heard you say something about that they are not going
18:54:07 to be subject to the parking or solid waste waivers.
18:54:11 What did you mean?
18:54:13 Explain that if you don't mind.
18:54:16 >>GLORIA MOREDA: They are primarily just a take-out
18:54:19 restaurant, no more than ten feet, that we for parking
18:54:23 purposes consider it retail intensity, and at that point not
18:54:27 considered a change of use.
18:54:29 So the parking is not being triggered by this application.
18:54:33 It is consistent with a shopping center intensity, and the
18:54:38 parking or solid waste requirements are not affected.
18:54:42 That's why we are asking them to remove that part of the
18:54:44 site plan related to those offstreet parking spaces.
18:54:48 There is not a reduction for parking.
18:54:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: Other questions from council?
18:54:54 Petitioner?
18:55:04 Item number 7.
18:55:05 Is petitioner here?
18:55:06 >> Do you have somebody representing you?
18:55:29 >> No.
18:55:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
18:55:33 You need to tell us why you want us to vote in support.
18:55:35 >> This is currently the wine store.
18:55:38 >> State your name.
18:55:39 >> My name is Patel.
18:55:42 So right now, we sell cheese and meat along with wine and
18:55:48 craft local beers, so we wanted on premises just to become a
18:55:54 wine bar as well.
18:55:55 So there's already a restaurant next to us that's 4(COP).
18:55:59 So we would like to become a wine bar in the future.
18:56:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
18:56:07 Anything?
18:56:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm very confused.
18:56:10 Mrs. Moreda?
18:56:11 Did you not say that this was a takeout?
18:56:18 >>GLORIA MOREDA: My understanding it's going to be for
18:56:20 on-site and off-site consumption.
18:56:22 They are a package store, retail.
18:56:27 They do have the ability to have up to no more than ten
18:56:31 seats there.
18:56:32 So to some degree it is considered a restaurant designation.
18:56:37 They are asking for small venue.
18:56:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any other questions by council?
18:56:47 All right.
18:56:48 Anyone in the public wish to speak on item number 7?
18:56:51 >> I live on the street directly behind the establishment.
18:57:04 I'm also a member of the Ballast Point neighborhood
18:57:06 association.
18:57:07 However, I am not speaking on behalf of the neighborhood
18:57:09 association.
18:57:13 They had the opportunity to discuss this.
18:57:14 But I have a problem or we have a problem with the
18:57:17 variances.
18:57:19 It's way too close to residential parcels.
18:57:22 This will be a bar eventually.
18:57:24 I took my own pictures.
18:57:28 This is on the east side directly 20 feet away.
18:57:36 This is on the north side.
18:57:39 Once again residential.
18:57:41 North side once again, residential.
18:57:47 And the west side is residential also.
18:57:55 Townhouses behind that wall.
18:57:59 It is just way too close to residential parcels. You are
18:58:02 going to have calls all the tame after this is put in there
18:58:09 eventually when it becomes a bar.
18:58:11 Secondly, you have got so many other alcohol sales within
18:58:16 this area.
18:58:22 Here.
18:58:22 Here.
18:58:22 Here.
18:58:23 Here.
18:58:23 Here.
18:58:24 Here and here.
18:58:27 And there is currently cicano restaurant has alcohol sales
18:58:35 and it's only 28 feet away.
18:58:39 Finally, I don't see how this bar will be supported in this
18:58:46 small site.
18:58:49 It says in the application an alcohol beverage sale, small
18:58:53 venue, that can occupy less than 300 persons.
18:58:58 And I don't understand how this small commercial site can
18:59:03 hold those cars and other traffic.
18:59:08 This is a picture of the site on Friday night.
18:59:13 Last Friday.
18:59:14 As you can see, it's filled with cars.
18:59:22 Wonderful restaurant and so forth there.
18:59:24 But for those reasons, I object to this special use at this
18:59:30 site.
18:59:30 Thank you.
18:59:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Excuse me, did you want to put those into
18:59:36 the record?
18:59:37 >> I don't need to because I believe she has the same
18:59:40 photographs.
18:59:40 >> Thank you.
18:59:43 >>HARRY COHEN: You just made a statement I want to ask you
18:59:46 about.
18:59:46 You said there was no meeting between the neighborhood
18:59:48 association and the petitioner?
18:59:49 >> No.
18:59:50 >>HARRY COHEN: Was there any attempt at a meeting by
18:59:53 anyone?
18:59:54 >> No.
18:59:56 No, did he not attempt to contact us.
19:00:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, anyone else wish to speak?
19:00:06 >> We did send a letter out.
19:00:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: Whoa, you will have a chance ton speak
19:00:11 again.
19:00:11 All right?
19:00:12 Anyone else wish to speak on item number 7?
19:00:16 All right.
19:00:19 You may speak.
19:00:20 >> We did send out letters to all the 250 --
19:00:24 >> State your name again.
19:00:24 >> Nara Patel.
19:00:29 We did send out letters to all business and residences
19:00:32 within 250 feet so any emails that I received I responded
19:00:35 back with any questions to contact me on my cell phone
19:00:38 number.
19:00:39 So there was no one has objected to that so far.
19:00:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you want to respond to some of the
19:00:45 charges he's made?
19:00:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: May I ask a question?
19:00:49 So the letters went out.
19:00:50 >> Yes.
19:00:51 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Did you receive e-mails in response?
19:00:53 >> Only one.
19:00:55 Asking us what it's going to become in the future.
19:00:57 And we said a wine bar.
19:00:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But no one else called you?
19:01:02 >> No, ma'am.
19:01:03 >> Thank you.
19:01:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you want to respond?
19:01:07 >> Yes, I do.
19:01:09 There's already -- we are a wine bar.
19:01:13 What we do is -- there's additional parking spots.
19:01:18 So I don't understand why people would have objections to it
19:01:21 because it's different -- we provide a service to the
19:01:24 community.
19:01:28 It's not going to become a wine bar like a hundred people.
19:01:33 It's we don't expect to become a wine bar, it's mostly for
19:01:37 praising.
19:01:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, how long have you been this business
19:01:43 at this establishment?
19:01:44 >> For this one is only end of April, basically we started.
19:01:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I have another question.
19:02:00 Mrs. Moreda, on the staff report, it has under active AB
19:02:06 sales permit it has none.
19:02:07 So how can he be in business since April --
19:02:13 >>GLORIA MOREDA: There is no approved alcohol permit on this
19:02:15 site.
19:02:15 >> And you have been selling beer and Wayne?
19:02:19 >> We already have a license.
19:02:21 >> A license is different from a permit.
19:02:24 Did you talk with staff before coming in tonight?
19:02:26 >> We talked to --
19:02:31 >> Just because you have a license from the State of Florida
19:02:33 to sell alcohol doesn't mean --
19:02:35 >> We do have city permit if that's what you are asking.
19:02:38 We did send --
19:02:40 >> I don't understand why it's not -- --
19:02:50 >> That's something different as well.
19:02:52 That's a business operating as a business tax permit.
19:02:56 It's not a permit to sell beer or wine.
19:03:04 That is just an occupational license.
19:03:08 It's not a permit to sell beer or wine.
19:03:10 This is the process you go through before you can start
19:03:12 selling anything.
19:03:14 >> We don't have a bar right now.
19:03:19 >> You have a cooler full of beer and somebody walks in and
19:03:25 buys a six pack and leaves with it, you cannot do that until
19:03:28 this gets approved, or not.
19:03:34 So I don't want to -- you get my drift.
19:03:40 The city attorney can probably explain to you what the
19:03:42 problem is.
19:03:45 But that's why what you were saying and what I am looking at
19:03:49 my staff report just didn't make any sense, because you said
19:03:53 you have been selling, and you don't have a permit.
19:03:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me suggest this, because the way you
19:04:04 talk, let me suggest to you that you need to discuss this
19:04:13 with staff, city staff, find out exactly what you need to do
19:04:18 to make it legitimate, and understanding all the procedures
19:04:29 that you need in order to come before us.
19:04:34 So the best thing to do is actually to continue this, allow
19:04:43 you to work this out, get some representation, or you meet
19:04:46 with city staff and.
19:04:50 But you need to request that.
19:04:58 >> Do you want to do that?
19:05:01 >>HARRY COHEN: I would just add if that's the road we go
19:05:03 down here, I think reaching out to the neighborhood
19:05:06 association would be the very minimum that you mate want to
19:05:09 consider doing as well.
19:05:14 That's the process moving forward.
19:05:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: The next step would be for you to ask us
19:05:20 for a continuance.
19:05:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could, chair, if you would like to have
19:05:26 a continuance of this hearing so that you can then get some
19:05:31 answers, get some -- is that what you would like, sir?
19:05:36 >> Yes, sir.
19:05:37 >> I want to make sure ware rate on that.
19:05:39 So I would like to --
19:05:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is that in the form of a question?
19:05:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think it's a declared statement so I am
19:05:46 going to go with that.
19:05:47 Thank you, sir.
19:05:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: How much time do you need?
19:05:51 >> August 27th.
19:05:56 >> So you request a continuance to August 27th at night,
19:05:59 6 p.m.
19:06:00 >> 6 p.m.
19:06:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
19:06:04 Mr. Suarez made the motion.
19:06:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I make that motion.
19:06:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
19:06:09 Any further discussion on the motion?
19:06:11 All in favor say aye.
19:06:12 Opposed? Okay.
19:06:15 Item number 8.
19:06:20 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Land development.
19:06:21 The petition is AB 2-15-12.
19:06:25 The property is currently zoned PD-A which is part of the
19:06:30 International Plaza.
19:06:31 The address is 2223 North Westshore Boulevard, unit B-221.
19:06:39 The proposed use is a large venue, beer wine consumption on
19:06:46 premises in package sales off premises.
19:06:49 Inside area 43,696 square feet.
19:06:54 Outside area is 15,512 square feet for a total of 59,208
19:07:02 square feet.
19:07:04 There are over 6048 parking spaces on-site.
19:07:08 The site plan indicates that the hours of operation will be
19:07:13 consistent with chapter 14.
19:07:16 According to the site plan again, this is part of
19:07:19 International Plaza.
19:07:19 The proposed AB sales area will be for commercial retail
19:07:24 sales, furniture store.
19:07:27 AB sales area extends the entire four stories of the
19:07:30 building, which is 43,690 square feet, and then also an
19:07:38 exterior area of 15,512 square feet.
19:07:45 This is a large venue and according to code over 300 people
19:07:49 could -- will be here and given the site area, it will have
19:07:57 at least that area, or ability.
19:08:02 This site hear is Jim Walter Boulevard, where the cheesecake
19:08:10 factory, I think, is in this area here.
19:08:17 Here is the photograph showing the mall again.
19:08:20 It's in this area.
19:08:22 It's under construction right now.
19:08:27 The area is such that they meat the distance separation
19:08:31 requirements.
19:08:32 There are no waivers being requested.
19:08:35 This is part of the Westshore business area, part of
19:08:38 International Plaza DRI.
19:08:41 Bus route 15 runs regularly on Boy Scout road.
19:08:48 And the Westshore Boulevard is a transit emphasis corridor.
19:08:54 Given that they comply with the code requirements, staff has
19:08:57 no objection with this request.
19:09:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions of staff by council?
19:09:20 (microphone turned on).
19:09:22 >> Anne Pollack, 501 East Kennedy Boulevard.
19:09:25 I represent Tampa Westshore associates which is the owner of
19:09:28 International Plaza mall.
19:09:32 Here with yet another new concept for Tampa.
19:09:34 And alcohol sales in a furniture store so I thought I would
19:09:39 give you a little background to get you to understanding
19:09:41 what we are doing.
19:09:44 Restoration hardware as you may or may not know is a luxury
19:09:48 home furnishing store, sells indoor and outdoor furniture,
19:09:51 lighting, bath, kitchen fixtures and a whole lot more.
19:09:57 As Mrs. Moreda explained if you have driven by International
19:10:00 Plaza recently you will see that they are building a new
19:10:03 three story furniture gallery with a rooftop mezzanine area.
19:10:08 It's not going to be your typical furniture store.
19:10:12 Restoration hardware has thousands and thousands pieces of
19:10:16 beautiful furniture to display and they have noticed that
19:10:18 their customers really want to be able to touch and see and
19:10:21 feel and sit on the furniture before they buy it.
19:10:25 So they have so much furniture to showcase that they are
19:10:28 moving to this new concept of having multi-story, full-line
19:10:32 galleries.
19:10:34 They are designed to house and display virtually all of
19:10:36 their product in the store.
19:10:38 These galleries are designed to be inspiring, spaces that
19:10:45 blur the lines between residential and retail, between
19:10:47 indoor and outdoor.
19:10:49 They are -- they have outdoor terraces, balconies, French
19:10:56 doors and so many windows to make you really feel at home.
19:10:59 There are six of these full-line galleries across the
19:11:02 country, and Tampa will be next, and it's the first one in
19:11:06 Florida.
19:11:08 This is very exciting.
19:11:10 It's the first of its kind south of Atlanta.
19:11:13 As you are aware, online shopping is becoming more and more
19:11:17 prevalent so retail businesses really need to get creative
19:11:20 in coming up with ways to enhance the customer experience
19:11:23 for their customers to actually come to the store and shop.
19:11:32 Opening this type of gallery is the first step, but the
19:11:34 second step is integrating new business concepts into that
19:11:37 store.
19:11:38 That compliments in this case restoration hardware's
19:11:42 emphasis on luxury, design and life style. So to do that,
19:11:46 to get to that next level, restoration hardware is
19:11:48 integrating wine sales and high end art and antiques into
19:11:55 their business.
19:11:56 The furniture draws the people to the store but it's the
19:12:00 wine and the art and the antiques that will hopefully keep
19:12:03 them lingering there and buying more furniture.
19:12:07 Restoration hardware recently acquired a winery in napa
19:12:11 valley called mason leaf that works with art I sons wineries
19:12:16 and small scale limited production winemakers, and
19:12:21 restoration hardware would like to give their customers a
19:12:25 similar experience to be what you would get if you go to
19:12:27 Maisson leaf in Napa Valley which is a wonderful feel, but
19:12:36 what they are trying to do is offer the craft from which
19:12:39 guests can come and they can taste wine and they can buy a
19:12:42 bottle and take it home, or they can get a glass and they
19:12:45 can walk around the store while they are shopping and have a
19:12:48 glass of wine.
19:12:50 It's all about enhancing the customer experience.
19:12:57 So like you might have a cup of coffee in some stores, this
19:13:00 is an opportunity to offer a glass of wine while you shop.
19:13:03 Consumption is expected to be limited.
19:13:05 After all, the goal is to give customers a luxury experience
19:13:11 but also focus on customer furniture, not creating a bar,
19:13:15 restaurant, party kind of atmosphere.
19:13:18 And really it's supposed to be the destination experience
19:13:21 where you can contained of take up the live style and hang
19:13:25 out and not just buy furniture.
19:13:28 I want to show you some pictures.
19:13:30 >>HARRY COHEN: Before you do, Councilman Capin has a
19:13:33 question or comment.
19:13:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It is a comment.
19:13:36 My first experience with retail in an alcohol was 18 years
19:13:39 old in Switzerland and they had a chocolate bon bon and let
19:13:43 me tell you, I did spend the money.
19:13:47 (Laughter).
19:13:50 >>HARRY COHEN: All right, don't tell any more secrets.
19:13:57 >> So this is what the Tampa store is proposed to look like
19:14:10 from the parking lot, right next door to Capital Grille.
19:14:14 This is an aerial rendering that you can see all the windows
19:14:19 and balconies and how -- and this is the rooftop, how they
19:14:23 are really focused on displaying their outdoor furniture and
19:14:27 having a great home experience.
19:14:29 This is just some examples of their others.
19:14:34 This is in Boston.
19:14:35 They just redid the old post office, I believe, and you can
19:14:38 sea how they are doing it on the inside really making it
19:14:41 beautiful
19:14:42 This is the bar at the Boston one.
19:14:45 And as we can see it's very simple, just for tasting, and
19:14:51 sell a glass of wine and nothing too complicated.
19:14:56 This is Greenwich.
19:15:00 This is outdoors at Greenwich.
19:15:07 Hollywood, California.
19:15:09 Their front walkway.
19:15:14 Again, the outdoor aspect.
19:15:18 This is Atlanta.
19:15:21 Ours is going to be clearly smaller than that.
19:15:23 But again, the outdoor.
19:15:25 And this last one is kind of what the roof at Tampa will
19:15:30 feel like with the pavilion and skylight.
19:15:34 This will be all open.
19:15:37 So we feel that this new concept, it will benefit the
19:15:40 customer.
19:15:41 It will benefit the retailer.
19:15:43 It will benefit the mall and it will also benefit the city,
19:15:46 because this is really bringing in a whole new customers to
19:15:50 a new concept that's not found anywhere else in the state.
19:15:53 So we think it will really be beneficial for everyone.
19:15:56 They are not requesting any waivers.
19:15:58 And we would request respectfully that you support this.
19:16:03 And the lead designer for the project is hear if you have
19:16:06 any questions that I can't answer.
19:16:08 Thank you.
19:16:08 >> Mr. Suarez?
19:16:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You are the chair.
19:16:15 First of all I wish they would have had this when I was a
19:16:19 newly wed looking for furniture.
19:16:20 I needed some drinking after going through all of that.
19:16:23 (Laughter)
19:16:24 My guess is if I went on line with pricing I would need a
19:16:27 drink, too.
19:16:29 (Laughter)
19:16:29 So let me ask you a quick question.
19:16:31 In terms of it being a large venue, is the concept lend
19:16:36 itself to events or anything like that?
19:16:38 Because now you are talking about a very huge space that is
19:16:42 going to have the ability to sell alcohol.
19:16:46 What's the cost and what do they do?
19:16:48 Is there anything like that?
19:16:49 >> The it's not to have events.
19:16:53 They may have a grand opening but they would do whatever
19:16:55 they needed to do to make sure they meet all requirements.
19:16:58 But other than that, their goal is not to have it having
19:17:02 events.
19:17:04 Maybe you have like one day where they are doing extra
19:17:07 tastings.
19:17:08 But that is really all that they are planning on doing.
19:17:11 It's not designed for that kind of practice.
19:17:18 It's really about people wondering around and sitting on the
19:17:23 furniture and that's the reason the place is so big.
19:17:25 There are so many paths with all the furniture, and I don't
19:17:29 think I have it with me, but they just show every little bit
19:17:34 of space is taken up with different living rooms and dining
19:17:37 rooms and all this.
19:17:38 So it just doesn't lend itself to that contained of thing
19:17:41 anyway.
19:17:42 For safety sake.
19:17:43 Even if it were just a business decision.
19:17:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: For your sake it's too bad they don't have
19:17:50 craft brewery or you would be talking to a different
19:17:55 demographic.
19:17:56 That's all I have to say.
19:18:00 Alcohol and retail sales --
19:18:02 >>HARRY COHEN:
19:18:03 [Sounding gavel]
19:18:04 Ladies and gentlemen, we know we are all going on vacation
19:18:06 after tonight.
19:18:08 Keep it under control.
19:18:10 (Laughter)
19:18:10 When.
19:18:12 >> When you mix alcohol and luxury like this, we do it at
19:18:16 our store.
19:18:17 The more people drink the more the husbands or boyfriends
19:18:21 buy for the girlfriend.
19:18:23 But I want to say I see this under construction.
19:18:26 Just going to the mall.
19:18:27 But seeing it as a finished product, it's beautiful.
19:18:29 I mean, what a completely different shopping experience.
19:18:34 I'm thinking about where I want to -- which couch I want to
19:18:37 sit on.
19:18:40 Just very impressive and I think it would add to the allure
19:18:46 of International Mall and that hair luxury brand and all
19:18:48 that stuff.
19:18:49 >>HARRY COHEN: Other council member questions before we
19:18:53 hear from the public?
19:18:54 I don't see any.
19:18:56 Is there anyone from the public wish to speak on this item?
19:19:01 If you do, you have to come up here.
19:19:03 Thank you.
19:19:03 >> My name is Victor LAPORA and I have a question for you,
19:19:12 please.
19:19:13 You say --
19:19:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We are going to vote.
19:19:19 >> And alcohol and art and local art as well, are you
19:19:34 planning to do so, and if you are not planning to do so, I
19:19:37 encourage you to do so.
19:19:39 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you.
19:19:41 Maybe she'll address that in her rebuttal.
19:19:43 Is there anyone else?
19:19:47 >> I'm sorry, they didn't shop any art on the --
19:19:50 >>HARRY COHEN: No, I understand.
19:19:52 She'll's she able to answer that in her rebuttal but you
19:19:55 can't get into a back and forthright now.
19:19:57 Is there anyone else, though, that would like to be say
19:19:59 anything about this application before we give the
19:20:03 petitioner one last bait at the apple?
19:20:06 Okay, I don't see anyone.
19:20:08 So go ahead if you would like to be say anything else.
19:20:11 >> Well, to address that, I do not have the answer about
19:20:14 local art versus national art but I will certainly make it
19:20:18 known that that would be a good way to have a better
19:20:22 relationship with the community.
19:20:23 And one other point I wanted to make.
19:20:25 I read an article by the CEO of restoration hardware and
19:20:29 they were talking about the new store, and he said online
19:20:35 sales is not what's important to him.
19:20:36 Yes, they'll continue to sell, but what's important to him
19:20:39 is the retail experience for the customers to really have
19:20:42 this amazing lifestyle experience when you come to his
19:20:47 stores, and that's what they are trying to do with this.
19:20:49 Thank you.
19:20:49 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you.
19:20:52 Any other questions or comments from council members?
19:20:54 >> Move to close.
19:20:56 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a motion to close from Councilman
19:20:58 Suarez, seconded by council member Montelione.
19:21:01 Whose turn is it to read?
19:21:09 All those in favor of closing the hearing please indicate by
19:21:11 saying aye.
19:21:12 Opposed?
19:21:13 The hearing is closed.
19:21:14 Whose turn is it to read?
19:21:15 I think it's Mr. Maniscalco.
19:21:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Ordinance being presented for first
19:21:21 reading consideration, an ordinance approving a special use
19:21:23 permit S-2 for alcoholic beverages large venue couples on
19:21:27 premises and package sales couples off premises and making
19:21:30 lawful the sale of beer and wine at or from that certain
19:21:33 lot, plot or tract of land located at 223 North Westshore
19:21:37 Boulevard unit B 221 Tampa, Florida as more particularly
19:21:41 described in section 2, that all ordinances or parts of
19:21:43 ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an effective
19:21:45 date.
19:21:46 >> Second.
19:21:50 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco,
19:21:53 seconded by Councilman Suarez.
19:21:55 All those in favor?
19:21:57 Opposed?
19:21:57 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Reddick absent at vote.
19:22:02 Second reading and adoption will be on July 16th at 9:30
19:22:06 a.m.
19:22:07 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you.
19:22:08 We are going to move enough to to item number 9.
19:22:14 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Land development.
19:22:16 This is application AB 2-15-15, in the Seminole Heights
19:22:27 district, 6809 north Nebraska Avenue.
19:22:32 The proposed use is for a large venue, bare wine, on and off
19:22:38 premises consumption.
19:22:40 The site plan shows 18,931 square feet inside area, 61,778
19:22:51 square feet outside for a total of 80,709 square feet total
19:22:58 AB sales area.
19:22:59 The site plan does indicate that there are 100 parking
19:23:05 spaces on-site, and they are indicating that the hours of
19:23:08 operation would be per chapter 14.
19:23:12 They are asking for a number of waivers.
19:23:17 The AB sales establishment, the requirement is 250 feet.
19:23:21 It is at 68 feet.
19:23:23 And residential from 250 feet to zero.
19:23:28 The site plan does show that there are 100 parking spaces as
19:23:33 I said.
19:23:34 However, they are asking to allow for alcoholic beverage
19:23:38 sales on the entire almost 1.8-acre site.
19:23:43 Staff consulted with the fire marshal's office, and
19:23:46 determined that you are talking about approximately 9100
19:23:53 people on-site if they were to have an event on that
19:23:56 property.
19:23:58 That would require 2,299 parking spaces.
19:24:03 So we indicated that the required waiver would be from 2,299
19:24:11 off-street parking spaces down to zero.
19:24:15 The large venue, they are asking for a waiver to be able to
19:24:18 sell the alcoholic beverages in the parking and loading
19:24:22 area.
19:24:24 Tampa request is for a brewery at this location.
19:24:30 Currently there is a warehouse around 17 that you square
19:24:34 feet.
19:24:35 The application again, while it shows that there are 100
19:24:41 offstreet parking spaces, with the occupant load of 370,
19:24:46 which meets the 100 parking space requirement, the fact is
19:24:50 that they are going -- the Seminole Heights requires to
19:24:54 utilize the usable floor area, which includes the entire
19:24:58 lots now being proposed for the alcoholic beverage sales.
19:25:05 At that point staff feels it's not really represented
19:25:08 accurately on the site plan.
19:25:11 Staff is objecting to the request in terms of finding it
19:25:14 inconsistent with the code requirements.
19:25:17 One of the things that does need to be clarified on the site
19:25:19 plan if council is willing to approve it is that the use
19:25:24 needs to be a microbrewery, and I have the definition of
19:25:28 micro brewery in the staff report.
19:25:31 It allows for 50,000-barrels produced annually.
19:25:38 The site plan indicates the brewery, which is considered a
19:25:41 heavy manufacturing use.
19:25:44 In terms of the parking, we are very concerned about the
19:25:47 amount of intensity that could occur on this property.
19:25:53 They are also -- the site plan does not show existing trees.
19:25:58 There are a number of trees on the property, and they are
19:26:02 subject to chapter 13 requirements, which requires at least
19:26:06 50% of the trees to be preserved.
19:26:10 That is something that cannot be waived through the special
19:26:12 use process.
19:26:18 We urged the applicant to consider possibly doing a
19:26:22 reduction of the alcohol beverage sales area, and are
19:26:27 indicating that at times if the site plan wanted two
19:26:32 structures, certain temporary special events whereby they
19:26:35 could utilize a larger area, with temporary special process
19:26:42 demonstrate their ability to provide the required parking in
19:26:45 the area, that is the method that we would like to see or
19:26:49 similar to the beer place.
19:26:56 I forget the name of it.
19:26:58 I'm sorry.
19:26:58 But on Fowler Avenue.
19:26:59 We just had one where they agreed to like six events a year.
19:27:05 I can't think of what the name is.
19:27:06 Okay.
19:27:07 So we have a number of revisions to the staff report.
19:27:11 Or to the site plan that staff is asking for.
19:27:17 Ranging from the elimination of one of the parcels that
19:27:20 originally came in that was zoned residential.
19:27:22 We need to remove the folio number.
19:27:25 They need to redo their calculations for the parking
19:27:28 requirements.
19:27:31 They have solid waste notes.
19:27:32 And they also need to indicate that they are going to be
19:27:36 complying with the Seminole Heights design standards.
19:27:39 Their site plan currently does not meet those, and they
19:27:42 would need to have a design exception for buffering as well
19:27:46 as the parking area in the front.
19:27:51 Transportation has expressed concern.
19:27:54 This is part of Seminole Heights urban village.
19:27:57 Nebraska is a transit emphasis corridor, and route 2 runs
19:28:05 regular trips on that area.
19:28:06 I have photographs.
19:28:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Cohen.
19:28:11 >>HARRY COHEN: Could I ask you a question before you get
19:28:13 too far along?
19:28:13 I'm a little concerned having heard some of what you said
19:28:16 tonight about whether or not we are going to even be able to
19:28:19 move forward with this.
19:28:20 Are you telling me that there are -- there's no trees on the
19:28:23 site plan, and 50% of them are required to be kept, and we
19:28:28 are not even -- even if we were so inclined ware not even
19:28:31 allowed to waive that.
19:28:33 >> You are not inclined to waive that.
19:28:36 Now they will ask you if council were to approve this AB
19:28:39 sales area through the permitting process, they would then
19:28:42 have been to show how they are complying with the
19:28:44 requirement.
19:28:46 It's not to say that they can or can't.
19:28:48 They just haven't demonstrated it at this point.
19:28:51 I was red flagging that issue through this process.
19:28:59 As you can see on the aerial here, this is the location of
19:29:04 the site.
19:29:06 This is the warehouse building.
19:29:08 This area here is what raised my concern.
19:29:15 This is an area that has vegetation.
19:29:18 I have no idea how large any of these trees are.
19:29:21 But they show that as being their truck parking area or
19:29:25 maneuvering area on their site plan.
19:29:28 So they haven't shown how they are going to be able to be
19:29:32 comply with code requirements there.
19:29:34 This is the site on Nebraska.
19:29:38 This is a view of -- I believe that's north on Nebraska.
19:29:43 And then this is across on the side of the of the building.
19:29:50 There is residential which is adjacent to the property.
19:29:56 And there is residential in the rear of the property.
19:30:01 You can see the back half more or less to residential.
19:30:10 Staff's main concern of this development is just the
19:30:12 intensity, if they were to basically occupy the entire site
19:30:18 with alcoholic beverage events.
19:30:24 Staff has found it inconsistent.
19:30:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from council?
19:30:31 Petitioner?
19:30:40 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I have the pleasure this evening of
19:30:44 representing 7venth Sun brewery, which is already operating
19:30:50 in Dunedin, Florida.
19:30:52 I'm joined this evening by Deven Crecks, the owners of
19:30:59 7venth Sun Brewery, if they would raise their hands, please.
19:31:02 I am also joined this evening by Mr. Joseph Hafner, a
19:31:06 registered architect, who was our architect on the project
19:31:09 and also Mr. Jack Green, professional land surveyor who has
19:31:12 been preparing the site plan with us through this process.
19:31:16 If you give me a moment I'll put the site plan one easel and
19:31:20 resume my comments.
19:31:22 We are also joined by -- 7venth Sun who wants to enjoy the
19:31:45 experience at this property.
19:31:47 This is an existing building at a roofing company.
19:31:53 Our clients are going to refurbish the building and add a
19:31:57 front porch, and we are going to amend the legal description
19:32:04 to only include the building proper as the wet zoned area,
19:32:09 not the entire property.
19:32:11 The project is in Seminole Heights on Nebraska just south of
19:32:18 Sligh.
19:32:19 And the zoning is commercial intensive.
19:32:26 We have several parking calculations that wave to Dale with
19:32:30 under all calculations whether under chapter 27 or under the
19:32:34 fair code or the Seminole Heights code.
19:32:37 We need less than 100 parking spaces.
19:32:41 We are providing 100 parking spaces.
19:32:43 There's no waiver of parking which I'm sure is news to you
19:32:48 in the context of an alcoholic beverage application.
19:32:50 So plenty of area.
19:32:52 Plenty of parking.
19:32:54 The tree comment, we'll catch that on a revision.
19:32:59 We'll locate all the trees especially in the back where many
19:33:02 of them are going to be located but remember this is a
19:33:05 restoration of an existing structure.
19:33:07 This is not a pallet where they are going to build a new
19:33:13 willed building.
19:33:14 We are refurbishing the structure.
19:33:16 We need assistance on a couple of waivers.
19:33:19 First of all on the front yard facing Nebraska Avenue, the
19:33:24 code allows you to bring the building to 10 feet, but it
19:33:29 also requires a 15 foot buffer.
19:33:32 We ask that you allow us to state that buffer will be 10
19:33:37 feet, and the reason is the building structure is way back
19:33:42 on the property, but we would prefer to dedicate that
19:33:45 property to providing the parking.
19:33:48 We are going to lose about seven spaces to provide a 10-foot
19:33:52 buffer.
19:33:52 We would lose more spaces to do a 15-foot buffer.
19:33:55 I think it makes a lot more sense to give it as much
19:33:58 latitude as possible to keep as much parking as possible.
19:34:01 We need a waiver on the front buffer to 10 feet.
19:34:08 There's also another waiver.
19:34:10 This derives from the Seminole Heights overlay district.
19:34:13 It requires that 80% of the parking has to be located in the
19:34:19 side and rear.
19:34:21 Now, the reason is, you want back loaded parking.
19:34:25 You don't want parking lots all along the corridor, and
19:34:28 that's a good planning concept.
19:34:30 However, if you look at the site plan, again look at the
19:34:33 location of the building, how far back it is, and we are
19:34:38 refurbishing and existing building so it's impossible to
19:34:42 comply with the 80% requirement.
19:34:44 We ask that you waive that requirement.
19:34:46 Again, that contemplates a vacant piece of property we have
19:34:49 the latitude to design.
19:34:54 We can however meet the side yard buffers that are required
19:34:57 by Seminole Heights code and we will show those on the
19:34:59 revised site plan.
19:35:01 Another waiver we ask you to consider will be in the rear.
19:35:05 Noted on the site plan.
19:35:07 There's existing wood fence that we propose to maintain in
19:35:12 good condition.
19:35:14 The code on use to use buffers requires a 15 foot buffer.
19:35:19 What I call contained of a no man's land.
19:35:21 There is 141 feet between that property line and the
19:35:25 building so you definitely have the 15-foot buffer.
19:35:28 The second prong of the buffer requirement is that there be
19:35:33 a 6-foot concrete masonry finished wall as well.
19:35:36 We are asking you to consider the fact that this is a treed
19:35:40 area.
19:35:41 Some of it will be improved, but there are several trees
19:35:44 will be retained on this part of the property.
19:35:48 You have 141 feet between the building proper and the
19:35:50 property line.
19:35:52 And last but not least, to build a concrete masonry wall
19:35:56 comes to the tune of $15 per linear foot and you are dealing
19:36:01 with approximately 400 linear feet.
19:36:03 It's a $60,000 line item in a construction budget that
19:36:07 frankly is punitive.
19:36:09 We are asking that you waive that requirement.
19:36:12 But we will be compelled to maintain the existing wood
19:36:16 fence.
19:36:18 The Seminole Heights, Old Seminole Heights neighborhood
19:36:21 association has been involved in our project.
19:36:24 We have had meetings with them.
19:36:27 They are here this evening.
19:36:29 I can tell you that we have their support.
19:36:32 Certainly you can hear from them this evening.
19:36:34 They have asked that we have a limitation on hours of
19:36:38 operation.
19:36:39 We have agreed to that.
19:36:41 That will be called out.
19:36:46 Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, closing will
19:36:50 be 11 p.m.
19:36:52 Thursday, Friday, Saturday evenings, will be 1:00 p.m.
19:37:00 Or a.m., sorry.
19:37:02 a.m.
19:37:04 The distance separation between related alcoholic beverage
19:37:10 sales within the neighborhood and residential use is going
19:37:13 to change.
19:37:14 I don't know offhand tonight how it's going to change
19:37:17 because as you recall, we are now changing the approved --
19:37:21 improved area to the building area proper.
19:37:22 So we will require -- we will require that waiver when we
19:37:26 have the revised site plan and can tell you exactly how many
19:37:30 feet it will be.
19:37:30 It's possible we may not need a waiver at all because we are
19:37:33 going to measure to the building.
19:37:35 We have a report from the Tampa Police Department of no
19:37:41 objections.
19:37:42 I cannot feigned it right now, but trust me, they do not
19:37:46 object to the application.
19:37:48 I have spoken to detective Don Miller, and he interviewed me
19:37:51 over the telephone.
19:37:54 We have many friends here that are supporting 7venth Sun.
19:37:59 I ask that they stand at this time so they may be recognized
19:38:02 by the council.
19:38:06 With that I will close my -- I think they are interested in
19:38:15 the experience.
19:38:17 But I'll save my remarks and reserve my more comments for
19:38:20 rebuttal.
19:38:22 What I suggest is going forward, your approval this evening
19:38:28 on first reading with the understanding that we would revise
19:38:30 the site plan.
19:38:32 And I'll tell you, these are tough site plans to prepare.
19:38:34 They take a lot of paper and a lot of brainpower.
19:38:38 But we have a second reading on August 6th, given the
19:38:42 holiday, and the tame we are going to need to actually sit
19:38:45 down with Mrs. Moreda to get this right.
19:38:47 We would appreciate that time.
19:38:51 I ask for your approval this evening.
19:38:52 Thank you.
19:38:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
19:38:54 Any questions from council to petitioner?
19:38:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE:
19:39:04 >>GLORIA MOREDA: You mentioned a number of waivers related
19:39:05 to Seminole Heights overlay.
19:39:06 Those waivers again are not waivers that City Council
19:39:11 through the special use process can entertain.
19:39:14 You need to apply for a design exception.
19:39:17 If he's wanting to justify those waivers through the
19:39:19 Seminole Heights regulations.
19:39:21 And staff will evaluate it.
19:39:23 But it's something that council --
19:39:29 >>HARRY COHEN: Is that something you can do between now and
19:39:31 August 6th or does is that being too conservative?
19:39:36 >> If that's what the code says, that's what we'll do.
19:39:39 >> Mrs. Moreda, what do you think?
19:39:48 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Well, I think he needs to submit this
19:39:50 proposal, you know.
19:39:52 To see how he can justify complains with the overlay
19:39:55 requirement.
19:39:58 It usually will take less than 30 days to render his
19:40:02 decision and at that point if he does not agree with it he
19:40:05 would file for a request for review that would go then to
19:40:08 City Council for consideration.
19:40:08 >> We'll do that.
19:40:16 >> Will the legal description change that will alter than
19:40:21 the ordinance?
19:40:23 >>GLORIA MOREDA: No, the ordinance -- he is indicating that
19:40:27 he is going to amend his legal description.
19:40:28 The survey will change.
19:40:32 This is probably better suited as a continuance than --
19:40:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If I can, council, and Mr. Grandoff, I
19:40:39 apologize for this, but I have a great deal of concern going
19:40:43 forward and having council give you approval at first
19:40:46 reading to the site plan that needs considerable revision
19:40:50 that requires perhaps the ordinance change in and of itself
19:40:53 you may have to go back to first reading anyway.
19:40:56 I think it might be more appropriate to have a continuance,
19:40:58 if you would consider it.
19:41:00 But I certainly don't want to have especially in the posture
19:41:03 this is being presented to council, that this go forward and
19:41:07 second reading be given any legal weight whatsoever with
19:41:09 regard to approval, if they should come up with any concerns
19:41:15 as a result at the second reading being presented with a
19:41:19 site plan for the first time.
19:41:23 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Okay, that's acceptable.
19:41:24 May I suggest that the application to continue until the
19:41:30 20th?
19:41:30 >> Well, our evening meeting in August.
19:41:35 >> We have a July meaning meeting.
19:41:41 >> We have a July evening meeting on July 23rd.
19:41:43 >> I don't know if we can make the site plan by then.
19:41:50 >> I think the 20th would certainly give you enough time
19:41:54 and it looks like we have not a bad evening that evening.
19:41:59 >> August 20?
19:42:02 >>HARRY COHEN: In the evening.
19:42:05 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: That's good.
19:42:06 We'll come back with a revised site plan and advise legal on
19:42:09 a continued hearing on August 20.
19:42:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: Need a motion?
19:42:17 >> The only action this evening is to continue it?
19:42:19 >>HARRY COHEN: Move to continue to August 20th at 6:00
19:42:22 p.m.
19:42:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second.
19:42:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
19:42:25 Seconded by Mrs. Capin.
19:42:27 Further discussion on that motion?
19:42:29 Hearing none all in favor of the motion say aye.
19:42:31 Opposed?
19:42:32 All right.
19:42:40 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Would you have any objection, Mr. Chairman?
19:42:41 >> Objection to what?
19:42:42 >> Anyone from the public?
19:42:44 I want to make sure --
19:42:46 >> I think there's just one.
19:42:49 (Laughter).
19:42:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone who would like to speak to the
19:42:54 continuance to August 20th?
19:42:56 Anyone in objection, has an objection to the motion to
19:42:59 continue to August 20th?
19:43:03 Seeing none,.
19:43:11 Okay.
19:43:14 Thank you.
19:43:15 Mr. Miranda.
19:43:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No new business.
19:43:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: None, sir.
19:43:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: None.
19:43:21 >>HARRY COHEN: Have a wonderful break, everyone.
19:43:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: No.
19:43:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No.
19:43:39 >> Move to receive and file.
19:43:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: One thing.
19:43:44 Happy and safe Fourth of July.
19:43:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do I have a motion to receive and file?
19:43:59 We have a motion to receive and file.
19:44:01 All in favor of the motion say aye.
19:44:03 Opposed?
19:44:04 All right.
19:44:04 We stand adjourned.
19:44:06 >> Mr. Chairman, who made that motion, please?
19:44:09 >> I did.
19:44:11 >>THE CLERK: Thank you.
19:44:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
19:44:17 >>
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