Tampa City Council
Thursday, January 21, 2016
9:00 a.m. session
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08:59:34 [Rapping gavel]
09:05:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Good morning.
09:05:43 We are going to call this council meeting to order. I yield
09:05:46 to Councilwoman Capin.
09:05:48 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:05:51 First of all, we start with our invocation and I would like
09:05:56 to welcome Shirley Foxx-Knowles, our illustrious clerk.
09:06:01 Shirley was appointed to the position of city clerk by Mayor
09:06:03 Pam Iorio in May 12, 2003.
09:06:08 She is the 20th clerk of the City of Tampa.
09:06:11 Shirley is a certified financial development professional.
09:06:14 Really, I didn't know that.
09:06:16 (Laughter)
09:06:19 I will have to talk to you later.
09:06:21 She holds a bachelors of science degree in accounting from
09:06:24 Florida A&M university and also graduate work toward MBA at
09:06:30 the University of Tampa.
09:06:31 Thank you, Shirley.
09:06:32 Please stand for the invocation and remain standing for the
09:06:35 pledge of allegiance.
09:06:36 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Good morning, council.
09:06:39 Let us pray.
09:06:40 O Lord our Lord, how excellent is Thy name in all the earth.
09:06:44 Father, once again we thank you for another beautiful
09:06:47 morning here in the City of Tampa.
09:06:50 We give you thanks for your grace and your mercy.
09:06:54 Thank you, Father, for showering us with your many
09:06:57 blessings.
09:06:59 May we remember to show our gratitude now and always by
09:07:02 being kind to each other.
09:07:05 Thank you once again for the opportunities to be here at
09:07:08 this moment in time.
09:07:10 We ask that you continue to bless our council, our mayor,
09:07:14 our administration, our employees, and our great citizens.
09:07:20 Thank you again for blessing us to live and work in this
09:07:24 great City of Tampa.
09:07:26 You have been so good to us, and we are truly grateful.
09:07:30 Today, bless this meeting as council takes care of city
09:07:34 matters.
09:07:36 Guide our council so that they will continues to do what is
09:07:39 best for all of our citizens.
09:07:42 Let us always remember to be instruments of your will.
09:07:47 As we continues to celebrate this brand new year here in the
09:07:51 City of Tampa, let us keep your presence in our lives.
09:07:56 May our homes are filled with joy, our hearts filled with
09:08:01 love, and our lives filled with your peace.
09:08:04 With humble hearts, let us all say amen.
09:08:11 pledge.
09:08:15 (Pledge of Allegiance)
09:08:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: Roll call.
09:08:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:08:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:08:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:08:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
09:08:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:08:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:08:44 We go to ceremonial activities.
09:08:47 Our first one, Mr. Miranda.
09:09:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Honorable chairman, Tampa City Council,
09:09:05 members of Tampa City Council, with mixed emotions I stand
09:09:09 before you this morning to present a commendation to Mr.
09:09:12 Mark Boghich III.
09:09:15 When you look back, I think mark, if I remember, served
09:09:18 under six mayors.
09:09:22 And more people have retired under you, mark, than anybody.
09:09:27 (Laughter)
09:09:30 I bury them, you retire them.
09:09:34 44 years is a long time.
09:09:36 In fact that was the same number that Hank Aaron had on his
09:09:42 jersey and became the home run team.
09:09:44 So 44 is a good number top retire with.
09:09:47 And I almost had Pete Rose.
09:09:50 But anyway, it's a pleasure to be here with you.
09:09:57 You were always a friendly face at City Hall, able to
09:10:01 communicate with most.
09:10:03 You offered help to everyone.
09:10:04 And you have done an outstanding job in your years of
09:10:07 service with the City of Tampa.
09:10:08 And within that, it's in recognition of you today of your 44
09:10:13 years working with six mayors, district Greco twice, bill
09:10:19 Poe, Bob Martinez, Sandy Freedman, Pam Iorio, Bob Buckhorn.
09:10:25 I think that record will stand forever.
09:10:27 You know why? Because those mayors aren't running again.
09:10:32 (Laughter and applause)
09:10:33 Come on up.
09:10:51 I know you are the boss of the two of them.
09:10:56 I feel good today, not that you are leaving, but that our
09:11:00 presentation to you is gratification of all your years of
09:11:04 service.
09:11:04 And here in rains, storms, everything.
09:11:09 I see you all the time.
09:11:11 But I appreciate it all the time.
09:11:12 And take care of the young man.
09:11:14 God bless you.
09:11:16 [ Applause ]
09:11:23 I know he's retiring but you may want to say something.
09:11:50 Come back.
09:11:51 >> Thank you.
09:11:52 It's interesting it started 44½ years ago, went to USF, a
09:11:58 phenomenal ride.
09:11:59 Pretty much my career was revenue and finance, accounts
09:12:02 payable, banking area, grants, and supervisor.
09:12:10 It was a great ride, great employer.
09:12:12 We all are on the same team, in the council chair, whether
09:12:16 you clean the streets, whether you sit in the office and do
09:12:19 accounting or clerical work or whatever you do, it's a great
09:12:22 team to be part of and a pleasure to look back on 44½ years
09:12:26 of wonderful memories.
09:12:27 Great group of people I worked with.
09:12:29 Thank you for the opportunities to speak, Mr. Miranda.
09:12:31 Thank you, sir.
09:12:33 [ Applause ]
09:12:52 >> Good morning, City Council.
09:13:36 Thank you for allowing the City of Tampa Black History
09:13:38 Committee to come before you this morning.
09:13:41 My name is Celeste Gibbons Peoples, president of the City of
09:13:46 Tampa Black History Incorporated, and I want to personally
09:13:50 invite you to our 28th Annual Black History Celebration
09:13:53 that will take place February 8th at 11:00 at the Tampa
09:13:57 Convention Center Ballroom B.
09:13:59 Our theme this year is Celebrating the Power of Music Past
09:14:03 and Present.
09:14:05 And we will be highlighting some of the past musical talents
09:14:09 we have had throughout the 28 years we have had our
09:14:11 celebration, so it should be a very good event.
09:14:16 Our keynote speaker is professor of music from university of
09:14:21 central Florida.
09:14:22 And he's also was born here in Tampa.
09:14:25 So it should be very exciting.
09:14:27 I hope to see you all.
09:14:28 I know you have always come and supported the City of Tampa
09:14:31 Black History Committee and we thank you for your support to
09:14:34 us this year.
09:14:35 We hope you can come.
09:14:36 And our committee, a couple members are here with me this
09:14:39 morning.
09:14:40 They worked very hard for this, and the continued support
09:14:43 that we get for the program over the years.
09:14:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: You didn't say anything about the food.
09:14:49 >> Yes, there will be refreshments.
09:14:53 (Laughter)
09:14:54 And we will be in ballroom B as well as some exhibiters that
09:14:59 will be there as well.
09:15:00 So if you come out it's flee.
09:15:02 It's open to the public.
09:15:03 So please come out and enjoy it.
09:15:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:15:08 When we leave our meeting we are going over there.
09:15:11 >> I hope so.
09:15:12 Right there.
09:15:13 Not a problem.
09:15:15 We'll feed you.
09:15:15 Not a problem.
09:15:18 (Laughter).
09:15:19 Thank you.
09:15:21 We go to item number 3.
09:15:24 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Thank you very much.
09:15:27 This morning I have the pleasure of introducing the Epstein
09:15:51 family, state vacuum on Kennedy Boulevard which everybody is
09:15:56 very familiar with.
09:16:01 Who can forget those motorized gorillas that they had in the
09:16:06 front and used from time to time.
09:16:08 But 70 years starting in 1946 for this father and son, and
09:16:13 several locations, Grand Central, north Kennedy Boulevard.
09:16:17 They are right there at Kennedy and MacDill.
09:16:20 They are the oldest family-owned business on Kennedy
09:16:22 Boulevard.
09:16:25 70 years.
09:16:26 The whole world has changed.
09:16:27 Tampa has changed.
09:16:28 And these folks are still in business.
09:16:31 According to their suppliers the largest single store of its
09:16:34 kind in the country.
09:16:35 So we are proud to have you in our community.
09:16:38 And thank you for serving us so well.
09:16:43 So on behalf of Tampa City Council, we congratulate you.
09:16:46 State vacuum of Tampa for your 70th anniversary starting
09:16:51 with your father, and now third generation Joe, and that's
09:16:58 it.
09:16:58 Recently you were awarded small business of the year by
09:17:01 greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce and I have already
09:17:03 mentioned you are the oldest family owned business on
09:17:06 Kennedy Boulevard.
09:17:07 So on behalf of City Council, I would like to present you
09:17:09 with this commendation.
09:17:12 [ Applause ]
09:17:18 >> Thank you very much.
09:17:21 Councilman Maniscalco, thank you very much for facilitating
09:17:26 this.
09:17:26 City Council, thank you.
09:17:30 It's been a great ride.
09:17:33 My dad would have been unbelievably proud to be here.
09:17:38 He would have skipped out a little later, Charley, to go to
09:17:42 the racetrack as you know.
09:17:43 That's office number 2 out there.
09:17:45 The city much Tampa has been great to us M.I dad was here in
09:17:48 1946 to manage a branch of state vacuum for $15 a week plus
09:17:53 commission.
09:17:53 There was about 36 stores at that stage, and our store is
09:17:58 the only one to survive.
09:18:00 And my dad said the greatest thing that ever happened to him
09:18:03 was moving to Tampa, not knowing a soul, and it was such an
09:18:08 embracing city for everyone.
09:18:10 We are all proud.
09:18:11 It's been a great ride.
09:18:13 We have generation 3, younger, better looking, taller,
09:18:19 smarter, everything, but it's going to be hopefully another
09:18:23 70 years.
09:18:24 Again thank you all very much.
09:18:25 I appreciate the honor.
09:18:26 Thank you.
09:18:27 [ Applause ]
09:18:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before you go, if I could ask you a quick
09:18:35 question.
09:18:35 Get to the podium because I am curious about this.
09:18:38 I see Joe is here.
09:18:41 How in the heck did you guys stay so thin being next to
09:18:45 Krispy Kreme all these years?
09:18:47 Back in the old days when they actually made the donuts
09:18:49 there and we knew about 9:30 p.m. the donuts are ready to go
09:18:54 for the next morning.
09:18:55 I don't know how you all survived from all the yeast.
09:18:58 >> We have a lot of bad habits but thank goodness Krispy
09:19:02 Kreme we only indulge in not very often.
09:19:07 Mike, you're right.
09:19:07 We should be a lot bigger.
09:19:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Not only the gorilla which of course the old
09:19:14 advertisement, the old Tampa stadium, which says here comes
09:19:17 the vacuum.
09:19:19 That was actually the most cheered moment at Tampa stadium
09:19:22 for so many years because of course the Bucs were worse.
09:19:27 (Laughter)
09:19:28 I hope you got a good rate on the advertising there because
09:19:30 I tell you what, I don't know, I don't know why they would
09:19:34 even charge for advertising they were so bad for several
09:19:36 years.
09:19:37 >> You are absolutely right.
09:19:41 My dad got a call one night from coach McKay saying,
09:19:44 Bernie, I am going to clean this language up for City
09:19:47 Council, and say, can you please turn that volume down?
09:19:51 That's killing us.
09:19:52 Can't hear anything.
09:19:55 The home field advantage, what do you want right there?
09:19:59 (Laughter)
09:20:00 >> Thank you for your 70 years and hopefully like you said
09:20:03 it's another's 70 years.
09:20:05 >> Thank you very much.
09:20:07 We appreciate that.
09:20:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: We go to item number 4.
09:20:11 Mrs. Montelione.
09:20:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Good morning, council.
09:20:21 Thank you for the presentation of this commendation.
09:20:24 This morning, we are recognizing once again Moffitt Cancer
09:20:27 Center.
09:20:29 Moffitt Cancer Center is one of the premier assets of our
09:20:32 city, and we are very thankful to have this facility in the
09:20:38 City of Tampa.
09:20:39 So I would like to present this commendation on behalf of
09:20:44 City Council to recognize Moffitt Cancer Center, Tampa's
09:20:48 premier oncological research facility for hosting the
09:20:52 biotech conference for the past ten years.
09:20:54 For a decade Moffitt has brought investors, medical
09:20:59 companies, startups, researchers and other industry experts
09:21:02 from across the country to gather under one roof.
09:21:05 At this gathering the brightest minds and biomedical
09:21:08 sciences exchange ideas on how to use innovative technology
09:21:12 to combat some of the biggest health care challenges we
09:21:15 face.
09:21:15 And it's not just important that we have a facility that
09:21:19 treats patients here in Tampa, but a facility that is at the
09:21:23 cutting edge of science and technology, an area that as you
09:21:26 know the university area, innovation alliance, is really
09:21:31 promoting the access to technology and the assets that we
09:21:37 have at Moffitt cancer center is invaluable.
09:21:40 So thank you very much, gentlemen.
09:21:42 If you would like to say a few words about the conference.
09:21:45 >> Good morning.
09:21:50 My name is Ruan Cox, and I have the pleasure of working at
09:21:54 Moffitt Cancer Center.
09:21:56 I am an industry alliance development associate at the
09:21:59 cancer center.
09:22:00 And it is an amazing, amazing, amazing opportunities to
09:22:04 stand before you and accept this proclamation.
09:22:06 We thank you very much.
09:22:09 The mission of Moffitt Cancer Center is to contribute to the
09:22:15 prevention and cure of cancer.
09:22:18 And it accomplishes that through service, through science,
09:22:23 and through partnerships.
09:22:25 Our service is well known.
09:22:27 We treat patients from over 130 different countries.
09:22:30 We treat patients from every state in the United States and
09:22:34 we also treat patients from every city in Florida.
09:22:37 Our science is well known.
09:22:38 We are one of the few national cancer institute designated
09:22:42 centers, but our partnership may not necessarily be as
09:22:48 appreciated, and we definitely thank you so much for our
09:22:53 attempt to improve the biotech cluster in the City of Tampa
09:22:57 and to make individuals aware of what Moffitt has to offer
09:23:02 not only to our patients but to the economy in Tampa Bay.
09:23:06 April 18th, 300 people will have the opportunities to
09:23:10 visit Moffitt Cancer Center.
09:23:12 Those 300 people represent investors, they represent
09:23:16 clinicians and academicians, those 300 represent lawyers and
09:23:23 biotech executives, and those people will come to celebrate
09:23:26 ten years of partnering with Moffitt Cancer Center, ten
09:23:31 years of Moffitt Cancer Center, different relationships and
09:23:35 networking and opportunities, and also to celebrate
09:23:41 Moffitt's initiative to foster startups, and one of our
09:23:44 notable faculty members here, Dr. Howard McLeod II is going
09:23:48 to speak about one of his startups.
09:23:52 Dr. McLeod is not only a entrepreneur but also a faculty
09:23:55 member at Moffitt and a clinician himself.
09:23:57 So we hope you can join us, all of you here, City Council as
09:24:02 well as the citizens of Tampa Bay on April 18th.
09:24:05 Our distinguished speaker is Dr. Ardigron, CEO of one of the
09:24:12 nation's fastest start being startups.
09:24:15 Please visit MoffittIP.com.
09:24:21 We thank you very much.
09:24:22 With no further ado, Dr. McLeod.
09:24:25 >> Thank you, council members, for this proclamation.
09:24:29 On behalf of the 5,000-plus employees of Moffitt Cancer
09:24:33 Center, our nearly 25 that you patients per year, and the
09:24:39 large number of people that we interact with want to thank
09:24:44 you for this.
09:24:45 And we also want to thank our colleagues at USF and other
09:24:50 area universities who we work very closely with top achieve
09:24:53 these goals.
09:24:54 It's a team sport, as you know, and we like to say that but
09:24:57 we also lake to do that.
09:24:59 This particular proclamation is special because it
09:25:02 represents a way that we can take the science that is
09:25:05 accomplished in our laboratories, in our clinics, with our
09:25:09 collaboratives at USF, and then turn that into a way that
09:25:14 can help even more people including those outside of Tampa.
09:25:18 And that's by taking these discovers into businesses.
09:25:24 And taking these businesses and growing them.
09:25:26 And certainly there's a benefit to job creation.
09:25:29 But it also benefits job creation in areas that are
09:25:33 expanding and in need across the world.
09:25:38 So the companies that spin out of Moffitt have not only
09:25:42 provided local jobs and local advances, but have gone into
09:25:46 the far field as creating new companies, collaborative
09:25:50 companies, joint ventures, in China, Brazil, in other
09:25:53 countries, which are also bringing back again additional
09:25:56 talent to the Tampa Bay area.
09:25:58 And so we thank you, the company that was most recently
09:26:05 started, and it's focused on trying to understand how we use
09:26:09 these incredibly expensive but also incredibly effective
09:26:14 immune therapies.
09:26:15 Instead of spending 1,000 on medicine, you want it to work.
09:26:20 So can we better identify who will benefit from these and
09:26:22 apply it right away?
09:26:24 And needs to go to the next best option to help them.
09:26:27 So companies like that are coming outs of Moffitt on a
09:26:31 regular basis, trying to generate the futures in terms of
09:26:36 medical care and hour goal is to do that in Tampa and
09:26:39 certainly the council is doing a lot to make sure that small
09:26:42 businesses can succeed in Tampa and not have to move to
09:26:45 Boston or the other bay area in order to accomplish those
09:26:49 goals.
09:26:49 So on behalf of Moffitt, I want to thank you for this
09:26:53 commendation, and look forward to another ten years and
09:26:57 really ten years after that of the biotech conference.
09:27:03 Thank you.
09:27:04 [ Applause ]
09:27:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions by council?
09:27:09 All right.
09:27:10 Thank you.
09:27:13 Item number 5.
09:27:16 Mrs. Montelione.
09:27:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:27:19 Today I would like to introduce Lieutenant Colonel Alicia
09:27:23 Gill Rossiter who is retired from U.S. Air Force reserve
09:27:26 nurse corps, if I said that correctly.
09:27:30 She is professor at USF college of nursing.
09:27:33 She is a published scholar and is the recipient of the 2014
09:27:37 state award of excellence for Florida from the American
09:27:41 association of nurse practitioners.
09:27:43 She is here with us today to talk about the military liaison
09:27:46 program through USF college of nursing.
09:27:49 >> thank you, councilwoman Montelione.
09:28:07 For the opportunity to speak about an innovative program we
09:28:10 have at the University of South Florida college of nursing.
09:28:15 Our science in nursing program falls under the college of
09:28:17 nursing restore lives of initiative aimed at transforming
09:28:21 the health care, transform the lives of families through
09:28:25 innovative research, education initiative.
09:28:28 This unique program launched in 2012 and received a federal
09:28:31 grant to create a program to assist veterans with a bridge
09:28:36 to career opportunities in nursing.
09:28:39 The grant that we received was based on statistics regarding
09:28:45 employment barriers.
09:28:46 As you know we have recently saved one of the largest in
09:28:52 history.
09:28:52 In 2011 approximately 100,000 separated veterans applied for
09:28:56 unemployment benefits, medical specialists accounted for the
09:28:59 third highest number of unemployment claims by military
09:29:02 occupation code, and in fiscal year 2011 roughly 20,000
09:29:06 medics and corpsmen were unemployed in the country.
09:29:12 Dr. Daoust is with me today is here. Dr. Rita Daoust.
09:29:23 >> Hi.
09:29:25 I'm Rita Daoust at the University of South Florida College
09:29:32 of Nursing, and as Dr. Rossiter mentioned the director on
09:29:39 this grant.
09:29:39 To give you a brief overview about our program, about some
09:29:42 of the barriers faced by not only veterans but in regards to
09:29:46 our grant, regarding employment, talk a little about
09:29:52 curriculum and some of the lessons that we have learned
09:29:55 throughout this grant.
09:30:02 We have been fortunate to have been one of the first nine
09:30:05 grantees awarded of federal grants for workforce
09:30:09 development.
09:30:12 This grant would not have been possible without the
09:30:14 incredible support starting with the City of Tampa and the
09:30:18 councilmen and women sitting at this table, and I can't
09:30:24 emphasize enough because there is significant pressure in
09:30:26 the nation's capital as there are budget challenges whether
09:30:32 or not to continue funding this.
09:30:34 So your continued support -- and Councilwoman Montelione,
09:30:38 thank you.
09:30:38 Thank you for inviting us.
09:30:50 One of the pieces that we have encountered and have really
09:31:06 developed trends is there are significant barriers to
09:31:11 military medicine corpmen and veterans in general to enter
09:31:15 nursing.
09:31:16 Significant.
09:31:17 We are probably less than 57% are able to enter the program
09:31:23 or qualify because of the selectivity.
09:31:26 In addition, although they will be saving lives, corpsmen on
09:31:31 the field, they have more experience than training vets if
09:31:35 something happens to women.
09:31:40 However, they have received little credit for their military
09:31:42 experience.
09:31:43 Maybe three.
09:31:46 The G.P.A.s may be lower, their grade point average,
09:31:50 because unlike my daughter who is in a perfectly appointed
09:31:53 dorm room, serving our country, whether corps or hospital.
09:32:03 As a result, they have faced many challenges.
09:32:10 Many suffered from PSTD or other family issues, and
09:32:17 completing courses.
09:32:18 So given the difficulties in applying to the program, would
09:32:24 you use your GI benefits if you don't know that the
09:32:28 investment in paying for those courses will get you in?
09:32:32 In addition, because prerequisites may have been taken a
09:32:35 long time ago, they are being asked to retake the same
09:32:38 course and we know how we would feel if we were paying that
09:32:44 check for our child.
09:32:45 >> One of the nice things about our program is we are
09:32:49 actually able to admit students while they are completing
09:32:54 their prerec to our programs and they can go anywhere in the
09:32:59 country anywhere in the world because veterans and active
09:33:02 duty members are serving our country overseas so they can
09:33:04 complete their prerequisite anywhere in the world.
09:33:10 We also conditionally admit them, knowing they can be
09:33:15 accepted once they complete these prerequisites and they
09:33:18 will not be wasting their G.I. Bill taking these courses and
09:33:21 not be able to get into a program.
09:33:23 Prior to our program, our university only awarded a few
09:33:26 credits, because they were PE credits based on their
09:33:31 military transcripts.
09:33:32 We actually recognize and award 16 credits for military
09:33:36 medic and corpsmen training and experience and come in with
09:33:39 an entire semester of nursing program under their belts
09:33:42 before they even get there.
09:33:43 We were able to create a bridge didactic and clinical course
09:33:49 tailored to these students.
09:33:50 We say thank you for your service, taking the pulse and
09:33:54 blood pressure when these people have been putting in chest
09:33:57 tubes in the battlefield so we really start where their
09:34:01 training in the military ended.
09:34:03 And then we bridge them in a professional role from an
09:34:07 unlicensed medical corpsmen to the conditional role of
09:34:13 nursing.
09:34:13 We spoke to leaders across the country, active duty, people
09:34:16 from other programs that failed.
09:34:20 We talk to them about what they really felt these students
09:34:22 needed and academic supports and social support was the big
09:34:25 thing.
09:34:26 Our university has a very successful office of veteran
09:34:30 support on campus.
09:34:31 We have over 1700 veterans on campus that they serve.
09:34:35 And we actually wrote the office of veteran services into
09:34:39 our grant so they could come over and really support these
09:34:42 individuals.
09:34:43 And we also provided faculty development.
09:34:47 Our faculty all are required to take an online course
09:34:51 that is geared towards learning how to meet the educational
09:34:54 and social support needs of our veterans.
09:34:56 >> One of the peaces about our program at the university at
09:35:06 south Florida for which we are the number one veteran
09:35:10 friendly nursing program in the entire country.
09:35:13 It's that we provide the transcript analysis.
09:35:16 So rather than saying of a course transfer, an award based
09:35:24 on the type of course and the level in which it was taken
09:35:34 academic credit.
09:35:35 If we look at this, it was never done in the country before.
09:35:42 From a state review and university accreditation review.
09:35:45 And as a result of that successful review, I am able to
09:35:49 stand before you.
09:35:51 However, that is important because many programs do not do
09:35:55 this.
09:35:55 So when these individuals go on to graduate school, it will
09:36:00 uphold.
09:36:01 But one could not be a medic.
09:36:06 They could be a an aide, nurses aide, or could be a licensed
09:36:11 practical nurse.
09:36:11 So identifying those patterns and awarding the appropriate
09:36:14 credit was incredible, as well as having a defensible
09:36:19 document that will withstand the most rigorous of higher
09:36:22 education standards.
09:36:25 We started doing this ourselves with thousands of
09:36:29 transcripts. However, now we have been able to successfully
09:36:37 transfer personnel within their university.
09:36:39 >> Also successful to our program was the clinical sites
09:36:44 that we worked with.
09:36:46 Tampa General Hospital is the first clinical site that
09:36:48 actually accepted our students into their clinical rotation.
09:36:52 It has been an amazing opportunity to partner with Tampa
09:36:55 General.
09:36:57 One of the things that we helped Tampa General with was
09:37:00 really looking at the difference between our veteran
09:37:02 students and other BSN nursing students.
09:37:06 Obviously, Tampa General as you know has served the military
09:37:09 well.
09:37:10 Many of the veterans and active duties staff from
09:37:14 MacDill Air Force Base do work out there, and they see
09:37:17 their patients there.
09:37:18 But there still is a stigma that see PSTD and TBI so we
09:37:30 provided them with education training about how to work with
09:37:32 our veteran students.
09:37:46 Also office of veteran services educated faculty staff and
09:37:52 administrators.
09:37:54 And the integration in the university setting.
09:37:56 (Bell sounds).
09:37:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: How much more time do you have?
09:38:01 >> A few minutes.
09:38:04 Just give you the outcomes.
09:38:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
09:38:06 >> Okay.
09:38:10 State of Florida, 56,000 nurses by the year of 2020.
09:38:18 So within four years.
09:38:20 If we look at this and you are taking this group of
09:38:23 individuals, we have 100% retention.
09:38:26 100% graduation.
09:38:28 100% employees.
09:38:32 We started with 10 in our first cohort with slightly less
09:38:35 than four months to recruit.
09:38:37 Our second we had 23 nursing cohorts, and once again 100%
09:38:45 are in the program.
09:38:50 So why would this be important for the City Council to know?
09:38:58 50 to 60% are from within the State of Florida.
09:39:03 In addition, as we look at these individuals, the vast
09:39:06 majority are under the age of 30.
09:39:08 This is a young group that we are now able to offer a higher
09:39:13 quality of life in the professional career.
09:39:17 In addition to these individuals, 40%, anywhere from 30 to
09:39:24 40% are in the reserve unit so they continue to serve in
09:39:29 this area.
09:39:31 Tampa sad news is only 40% of these students are receiving
09:39:35 tuition benefits through the post 9/11 G.I. Bill.
09:39:40 There's incredible difficulty for these students as they
09:39:43 make tough choices whether to put food on the table, they
09:39:46 have family, or if they should be paying their tuition.
09:39:58 >> Thank you.
09:39:58 At this point I would like to call Councilwoman Montelione
09:40:01 down.
09:40:02 Within our military veteran culture, there is the challenge
09:40:08 coin ceremony.
09:40:09 At the college of nursing we have developed a specific coin
09:40:15 that there's the emblem.
09:40:17 Both the United States of America in as well as the
09:40:22 university.
09:40:23 Your support in having us here and helping all of you to get
09:40:27 the word out to veterans in this community and in our state
09:40:34 is truly critical.
09:40:35 Thank you.
09:40:36 >>LISA MONTELIONE: This sap surprise.
09:40:39 Thank you very much.
09:40:40 [ Applause ]
09:40:41 One of the reasons why it's so important is we have so many
09:40:46 veterans who need so much help.
09:40:49 And a lot of those veterans end up homeless if they don't
09:40:54 capitalize on the skills that they have, and to have the
09:40:57 pathway to a better future.
09:40:58 So it's critical, and I was going to ask today, what can we
09:41:04 do to help?
09:41:05 You mentioned the possibility of the program being cut or
09:41:10 scaled back because of budget cuts.
09:41:12 So is there anything that we can do to keep the program
09:41:16 going, keep it here at USF?
09:41:19 We have got several USF graduates on council, and it's our
09:41:28 intent to keep this program going and doing whatever we can
09:41:31 to help.
09:41:32 >> Thank you.
09:41:35 I think continuing to provide support.
09:41:37 Make it very clear.
09:41:40 I know that president Genshaft is committed to veterans.
09:41:44 However, through Mayor Buckhorn, continuing at all levels,
09:41:48 getting the word out to your constituents about the program.
09:41:52 One that's hardest for us to actually get the word out is
09:41:56 the veterans.
09:41:57 Military bases we can handle.
09:41:59 Other types of things.
09:42:00 So the more you can show your worth in helping us, and in
09:42:04 return giving that to your constituents, if you have a
09:42:09 Rotary Club you want us to go to,.
09:42:17 And for us to a line to show support.
09:42:25 When we look at those numbers I would say half of those
09:42:27 could be homeless.
09:42:28 If they have an educational opportunity.
09:42:34 Apply at the library because that's the only place you can
09:42:37 get a computer.
09:42:37 >> Or in Florida where we have the third largest population.
09:42:42 So it really hits home in our state.
09:42:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could ask a couple of questions.
09:42:47 In the early 90s they had a program in which veterans that
09:42:50 had the expertise on running nuclear power, you know,
09:42:57 shifts, submarines, they could not come back in and actually
09:43:01 get certified as knock lar power technicians primarily
09:43:05 because of the disconnect between the requirements that are
09:43:07 in the military and the requirements that they had in
09:43:11 civilian life.
09:43:12 And obviously you have gone through that to find out that
09:43:15 training that they received in the military can equate
09:43:18 somewhat to those 16 hours of credit that they can get
09:43:22 there.
09:43:25 Are you working to try to change federal law to allow that
09:43:28 training automatically transfers into a nursing program, not
09:43:32 only here at USF, but in other universities across the
09:43:35 country?
09:43:36 >> Absolutely.
09:43:37 The person is Bob Sullivan who worked with me and allowed us
09:43:42 to be able to do this.
09:43:47 The state of Ohio actually not only has legislatively
09:43:51 mandated this for veterans but for all.
09:43:54 And we have initiated a national Webinar for other programs
09:43:59 in the country because we were getting so many requests on
09:44:03 how are you doing this?
09:44:04 So it started to go there.
09:44:06 What I would say, though, is there's still much work to be
09:44:10 done.
09:44:10 The highest level of jobs.
09:44:19 I don't think an individual needs to take those courses
09:44:23 actually.
09:44:23 Let it go.
09:44:24 You are going to have to have someone personally invested.
09:44:27 So I think you are putting pressure on the state system.
09:44:29 And I also include the community colleges as well as the
09:44:33 universities.
09:44:34 That would be critically important.
09:44:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you for your work.
09:44:38 We really appreciate it.
09:44:39 Go Bulls!
09:44:41 >> Go Bulls.
09:44:42 >> Item number 6.
09:44:45 Ms. Capin.
09:44:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:44:52 I am going to introduce Dale Gordon to come up and speak to
09:44:57 us on the state of the film industry in the State of
09:44:59 Florida, but before I do I want to recognize that City
09:45:04 Council's Citizen Advisory Committee on economic impact of
09:45:07 cultural assets is a hardworking board that is moving the
09:45:12 needle on cultural assets in a way that goes beyond the
09:45:15 city.
09:45:18 Very soon, new announcements will be coming out on what this
09:45:22 board has been working on for the past year.
09:45:27 Dedicated, hard working group.
09:45:29 I just want to recognize that this came about on our board
09:45:34 meeting, January 12th, and asking by motion to come to City
09:45:40 Council and ask for this presentation, because as she will
09:45:46 explain, it's all about, as my colleagues like to say, it's
09:45:49 all about the money.
09:45:50 And it's about the money the city and Hillsborough County
09:45:53 lost.
09:45:55 So Ms. Dale Gordon, who is the Tampa Hillsborough Film
09:45:59 Commission, please, welcome.
09:46:00 And thank you for coming on such short notice.
09:46:02 >> Thank you so much for having me.
09:46:06 First off, I want to also thank all of you yesterday for
09:46:08 taking time to meet with us.
09:46:12 We'll talk about that in a little bit.
09:46:15 But the film industry is very high wage industry.
09:46:21 About 30 years ago it became an incentivized industry and
09:46:25 all started in Canada.
09:46:28 Canada was at that time looking for industries where they
09:46:32 could work, and they had a few prerequisites.
09:46:35 They wanted them to be a clean industry, a high-wage
09:46:38 industry, and they wanted it to be something that added
09:46:41 tourism.
09:46:42 So they set up a very aggressive incentive program, the
09:46:49 first time it's ever been done in the world, and basically
09:46:51 was a 20% program.
09:46:56 Basically of what they did was reached out to Hollywood and
09:46:59 to Mr. Spielberg and said if you come here and bring your
09:47:03 100 million to Canada we are going to give you 20 million
09:47:08 cash because we know you are did going to spend 830 million
09:47:11 and that's a great return on investment.
09:47:13 It caught on like wildfire and start add phenomenon called
09:47:16 runaway productions where everything started leaving New
09:47:19 York and L.A. and going to Canada.
09:47:23 We took a group of our leadership to show them the
09:47:26 infrastructure.
09:47:26 There are sound stages.
09:47:28 There are production companies.
09:47:29 There are some of the best film programs.
09:47:31 And the capital investment that went into building of that
09:47:35 industry in Canada is just exponential.
09:47:39 About ten years later the individual states started doing it
09:47:43 so now you have places that now have infrastructure.
09:47:46 Louisiana, Georgia, New Mexico, and like California and New
09:47:52 York and even Florida at the time.
09:47:55 But they could write a check and that offset the cost of
09:47:58 bringing that production in.
09:47:59 So that brings us to today.
09:48:01 Today we are currently in the State of Florida disadvantaged
09:48:04 because we do not currently have any state incentives to
09:48:09 work on production.
09:48:09 This is impacting particularly Tampa Bay in a tremendous
09:48:13 way.
09:48:13 And the last year alone, we lost approximately $50 million
09:48:21 in direct spending to our market from two projects alone.
09:48:24 I think it's also important to point out that unlike Miami,
09:48:27 which is a destination, Tampa, we haven't had a lot of
09:48:30 stories written about Tampa that have wanted to come to the
09:48:33 big screen.
09:48:34 And we finally are, which is a really exciting thing.
09:48:37 I think it has a lot to do with the alignment of our local
09:48:40 leadership.
09:48:41 I think we have great things going on in town like obviously
09:48:45 the group development, and losing those two projects, and
09:48:51 they saw the infiltrator as a win.
09:48:53 And yes, that was a win, but they would not come here if we
09:48:56 had not wrote out the -- rolled out the red carpet and gave
09:48:59 them an incentive package because it is the number one
09:49:05 determining factor where it will come.
09:49:08 So they did come.
09:49:10 They did spend almost $2 million in our market.
09:49:12 They hired our workforce.
09:49:14 But they wanted to spend 20 million here.
09:49:17 They would have done that.
09:49:18 You all heard I'm sure of Live By Night, which is the Ben
09:49:25 Affleck directed film.
09:49:28 That project, which is a highly anticipated project that
09:49:31 will do very well because he won an Oscar for his first film
09:49:35 that he directed, in Ybor City, so the fact that the state
09:49:41 of Georgia gave them $6 million tax incentive to bring that
09:49:45 film there, and actually film Ybor City in Georgia is
09:49:53 devastation for local impact.
09:49:54 Yes, we will still get the tourism aspect, but it's still a
09:49:59 bitter pill to swallow when we could have had the jobs,
09:50:05 local spending at our than hotels and restaurants.
09:50:13 Shot their entire spring catalogue in Ybor City.
09:50:16 It was a million dollars spent in our community.
09:50:18 One local coffee shop made $20 thousand in one day just from
09:50:22 that film shoot.
09:50:24 So it's a very impactful industry.
09:50:27 Very high wage industry.
09:50:28 Clean.
09:50:30 The added value of tourism.
09:50:32 So I ask your support to go to Tallahassee and lobby for
09:50:37 support for this industry.
09:50:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
09:50:40 I would like to -- I love hearing about Ybor.
09:50:47 Ybor is an asset that any city would give to have.
09:50:50 And we have it right here.
09:50:53 Right here.
09:50:54 National historic district.
09:50:56 And well served.
09:51:01 Any questions?
09:51:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Gordon, let me ask you, the dollars you
09:51:11 are talking about, the "Live By Night" production in
09:51:17 Georgia, was that a combination of state and local
09:51:21 incentives?
09:51:22 Do you know those numbers?
09:51:23 >> That was 100% state tax credit.
09:51:26 And just to also give you kind of a mind boggling number
09:51:31 last year the state of Georgia gave out $140 million
09:51:35 incentives to all industry separate from the film industry.
09:51:38 For the film industry, it was 1.5 billion.
09:51:43 Billion.
09:51:44 In one year of incentives because they are seeing the
09:51:48 infrastructure and capital that's coming in because of this
09:51:51 industry.
09:51:52 Recently, they go to Fayetteville, Georgia, one of the
09:51:57 largest in the world.
09:51:57 This is something that economists sometimes capture when you
09:52:02 are doing live caption, it doesn't capture that outside
09:52:08 funding that's coming because of a project.
09:52:09 But because of that one sound stage they didn't have enough
09:52:12 support services in that communities to supports the
09:52:15 industry.
09:52:16 And so what they did was developers went to the Planning
09:52:18 Commission and proposed building two hotels, 700 homes,
09:52:24 restaurants and businesses to support.
09:52:29 All of those numbers aren't captured when the economists do
09:52:31 their ROY study on this industry.
09:52:34 >> I know that the infiltrators in county dollars are 1 .7?
09:52:38 >> They spent 1.7 locally in addition to $250,000 local tax
09:52:43 incentive.
09:52:44 Tampa also did pitch in with three police officers.
09:52:47 >> In terms of the amount of money that the county has given
09:52:51 you to pitch to production companies, how much is that over
09:52:56 a year to year basis?
09:52:57 >> Currently they have given us $463,000.
09:53:05 >> And the way that that program works is how?
09:53:08 Is it a tax incentive in addition to other incentives?
09:53:14 >> Well, because the State of Florida currently does not
09:53:16 have any allocations, and we have also extraordinary it to
09:53:21 wherein you get one, you don't get the other.
09:53:23 We don't want double dipping here.
09:53:25 We are being very fiscally responsible.
09:53:27 The rebate, you have to come, you have to spend the money,
09:53:30 it has to all be inside Hillsborough County to qualify.
09:53:36 Minimum $100,000.
09:53:38 Again we are encouraging local workforce to be hired.
09:53:41 But at the end of the day they have to turn in a full audits
09:53:44 of their production expenditures that goes through both our
09:53:48 office and the county clerk's office to ensure that they are
09:53:50 qualified for expenditures.
09:53:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you for everything you do.
09:53:54 It is difficult without state dollars to get some
09:53:59 productions here.
09:54:00 We appreciate it.
09:54:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:54:10 I need to if I something that I read like 5:30 in the
09:54:14 morning, I believe in the "St. Pete Times."
09:54:16 I don't know if you had a chance to read the article.
09:54:18 It was an article regarding subsidies or bringing in
09:54:21 different industries.
09:54:22 One of them is the film industry.
09:54:24 And one segment said that it's wonderful, it's the benefits
09:54:27 thing since apple pie.
09:54:28 And the next section, I forget which part, some other
09:54:32 committee said it only returns 437 cents to every dollar
09:54:35 spent, if I remember that quote in that paper.
09:54:38 Which is true?
09:54:39 And how do I make a decision based on -- forget what
09:54:42 somebody else said.
09:54:43 How do I get enough information from individuals lake
09:54:46 yourself, or somewhere elsewhere you can make a definitive
09:54:50 agreement as to whether it's good or it's not so good?
09:54:53 >> Thank you for asking that question.
09:54:54 You are absolutely right.
09:54:55 It was 43 cents on the dollar.
09:54:57 So that was an ROY assessment put out last year by the EDR,
09:55:03 state EDR, and Amy Baker is giving her presentation to the
09:55:06 state legislature, and it was a very imperfect assessment
09:55:10 because it did not capture some of the things that I have
09:55:12 spoken about, the capital investment, the tourism.
09:55:16 The State of Florida, Visit Florida, has actually determined
09:55:19 22.7 percent of visitors to the State of Florida are
09:55:22 impacted in one way or another by a film or television show
09:55:26 that encourages them to come here.
09:55:29 That economic impact and the tourism is not captured in that
09:55:34 ROY and it's why the states says -- unfortunately there is
09:55:37 no one model across the board in the country or in the world
09:55:41 for that matter to completely capture the economic impact of
09:55:44 our industry.
09:55:45 The other side of it is that I think people don't understand
09:55:48 that these are not apples to apples from state to state.
09:55:53 Those are about 1.5 billion last year and they saw a return
09:55:58 of 5.1 billion.
09:55:59 Their program is nowhere near as conservative as ours is and
09:56:03 they incentivize what's called an above the line salary.
09:56:07 So even in non-state residents.
09:56:09 State of Florida cannot do that.
09:56:12 We have the most conservative program in the country.
09:56:14 So much so that some people don't think it's competitive.
09:56:17 And to be honest with you, I don't have a problem with that
09:56:19 because we don't need to have the most competitive incentive
09:56:22 program in the country to get some productions to come here.
09:56:26 We have always been the number three state behind California
09:56:28 and New York before the incentive came into place.
09:56:31 Right now we are not even in the top ten.
09:56:33 That's how impactful these incentives have become.
09:56:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: My next question to myself is really one
09:56:40 that I wrestle with any day.
09:56:42 Why does anybody need incentives?
09:56:47 A multi-millionaire corporaton like baseball, NFL, hockey
09:56:53 teams, soccer teams, everybody wants a trough.
09:56:56 Building, you want something to move people around and do
09:57:00 things right.
09:57:01 They want incentives.
09:57:02 It gets to the point that I understand why Trump and why
09:57:06 Sanders and a lot of these individuals who speak like they
09:57:08 are goofy are getting a lot of attention.
09:57:10 >> Personally, I completely agree with you.
09:57:14 Unfortunately it's just --
09:57:16 >> I'm just thinking to myself.
09:57:18 >> I completely understand.
09:57:22 My job would be so much easier if this wasn't even a factor.
09:57:25 But unfortunately it's probably the most important factor.
09:57:27 >>HARRY COHEN: If I may, I think Councilman's Miranda
09:57:36 question is an excellent one.
09:57:38 The problem is because everyone else is doing it, that's
09:57:40 what dictates the competitive environment.
09:57:42 And look at St. Louis and Los Angeles with the football
09:57:45 team.
09:57:46 Look at General Electric moving from Connecticut to Boston.
09:57:50 It's all competition between different municipalities and
09:57:55 different states.
09:57:56 Rick Scott travels all over the place trying to lure from
09:57:59 other places.
09:58:01 And this is the weapons that are used.
09:58:03 And it's very unfortunate, I agree with you, because we have
09:58:07 gone down the slippery slope, and that's where taxpayer
09:58:09 dollars are going to.
09:58:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So the state spends $16 million and got
09:58:16 a return of zero.
09:58:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: The way I look at it, I'm not an
09:58:22 economist.
09:58:23 I'm not doing any math.
09:58:25 But if "Live By Night" were to film in Ybor City, a national
09:58:29 film by an Oscar-winning director, imagine, you know, the
09:58:35 national spotlight that you put Ybor City in, and Tampa in
09:58:38 general.
09:58:39 The tourism, the people that would be coming down because
09:58:41 they want to visit this place, because it was here during
09:58:46 the bootlegging days, and they can visit that living
09:58:50 history.
09:58:50 That's the way I look at it.
09:58:52 You get the state incentives but it directly would impact, I
09:58:56 would assume, safely, Ybor City.
09:58:59 The hotels, restaurants, retail.
09:59:00 And those people would take that streetcar, maybe, to
09:59:03 downtown Tampa, and it would just really help us overall.
09:59:08 And puts Tampa in a positive national spotlight.
09:59:10 That's the way I see it.
09:59:12 So when incentives come in, if that's what it takes to bring
09:59:15 these people here, the long-term return is immeasurable,
09:59:20 it's huge, because movies tend to last a long, long time,
09:59:24 and hopefully for generations, where it just keeps putting
09:59:27 us in a positive spotlight.
09:59:29 So, you know, it's unfortunates that we lost that to
09:59:32 Georgia.
09:59:33 I would like to see that set wherever it's at, see the
09:59:36 imitation Ybor.
09:59:38 But I drive up to Georgia, but it would have been nicer to
09:59:45 drive down and take the streetcar down there today and see
09:59:48 the actual location.
09:59:49 But let's see moving forward if the state is willing to, you
09:59:54 know, change their mind.
09:59:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anything else?
09:59:57 Ms. Capin?
09:59:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
09:59:59 You know, when you speak about what the film is going to --
10:00:02 once it comes out, of course, it will highlight Ybor.
10:00:06 But what we missed outs on is that magazine, media cover
10:00:13 while the production is on.
10:00:16 They are telling people, this is happening at this street.
10:00:20 This is Ben Affleck was here.
10:00:22 I see it all the time.
10:00:24 And that is immeasurable PR for our city and our state.
10:00:31 And with that, I would like to make a motion, because zero
10:00:36 is not good enough for our state.
10:00:40 So I would like to make a motion that Tampa City Council
10:00:45 pass a resolution to send to our legislators, which are now
10:00:48 in session, and hopefully we get to them in time before they
10:00:53 dole out everything, to incentivize, to look at this -- to
10:01:01 incentivize, to look at this more seriously.
10:01:04 We lost here but it's the entire state that lost.
10:01:07 So my motion is that we pass a resolution encouraging our
10:01:11 states legislators while in committee to look at
10:01:16 incentivizing our film industry in the State of Florida.
10:01:20 >> Second.
10:01:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion from Mrs. Capin, seconded
10:01:24 by Mr. Maniscalco.
10:01:25 Any discussion on the motion?
10:01:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to say that for myself, I
10:01:29 don't have a fact sheet, I don't have information regarding
10:01:34 what I read this morning, and itself would be not in my best
10:01:38 interests to represent the people that I do to vote on
10:01:40 something that I have no facts on as to what is right and
10:01:43 what is wrong.
10:01:43 So therefore I will not be supporting the resolution.
10:01:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:01:47 Any further discussion on the motion?
10:01:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
10:01:56 That's a smart move, thank you, not to vote on it when you
10:02:01 don't understand it.
10:02:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I never said that.
10:02:04 Because the facts are not presented to me, with all the
10:02:06 numbers.
10:02:09 The lady at the podium understood and agreed with me not
10:02:13 only early but now.
10:02:14 It's not that I don't want to know, but I don't have the
10:02:17 facts.
10:02:18 >>> And I apologize. I should have brought that but I do
10:02:24 have that information, a one sheeter and I can identify that
10:02:28 for you.
10:02:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I was going to ask you to bring in that
10:02:31 information and also share it with our City Council attorney
10:02:35 for the resolution should it pass.
10:02:36 >> Absolutely.
10:02:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: Got a motion by Mrs. Capin, seconded by Mr.
10:02:41 Maniscalco.
10:02:42 Any further discussion?
10:02:43 All in favor say aye.
10:02:45 Those opposed?
10:02:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Nay.
10:02:47 >>THE CLERK: Miranda voting no.
10:02:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:02:53 At this time we go to approval -- approval of the agenda.
10:02:59 >> So moved.
10:03:00 >> Second.
10:03:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have -- before we do the motion,.
10:03:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I wanted to ask on the agenda to move up an
10:03:13 item.
10:03:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have item number 11.
10:03:19 And we got a memorandum from Catherine Coyle requesting that
10:03:27 item number 10 be moved to February 4, 2016.
10:03:34 >> So moved.
10:03:37 >> Second.
10:03:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Suarez.
10:03:39 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:03:40 All in favor say aye.
10:03:41 Opposed?
10:03:42 All right.
10:03:42 Item number 11.
10:03:46 Legal department and Tampa Police Department requesting to
10:03:51 continue this to February 4th, 2016.
10:03:54 Got a motion from Mr. Miranda.
10:03:56 Second by Mr. Cohen.
10:03:57 All in favor say aye.
10:03:59 Opposed?
10:04:00 Item 54.
10:04:01 We got a letter from Mr. Marks Bentley requesting that the
10:04:05 public hearing be continued to February 25th.
10:04:08 >> We have to hold those items till 10:30.
10:04:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:04:16 In that case, make your motion.
10:04:29 You seconded the motion.
10:04:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I wanted to ask in the staff report, number
10:04:35 12, be moved up because I have an point, and I may not be
10:04:40 here to be able to stay for this, and it's a motion that --
10:04:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, you don't have to make that motion
10:04:48 because I have already informed my aid to put the word to
10:04:53 them that we will probably move this up.
10:04:56 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
10:04:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mrs. Montelione.
10:04:58 Second by Mr. Maniscalco.
10:05:01 All in favor ever? Opposed?
10:05:03 All right.
10:05:03 We go to public comments at this time.
10:05:05 Anyone wishing to speak come forward.
10:05:07 Please state your full name, address.
10:05:08 You have got three minutes.
10:05:09 >> Cathy Francoen, 305 Westland Avenue.
10:05:19 Originally we were here to speak before the off-site parking
10:05:22 but since that's been postponed I would like to bring up the
10:05:25 fact that -- is this on?
10:05:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes.
10:05:30 Turn it around.
10:05:34 It was all right?
10:05:35 Okay.
10:05:35 >> That very big sign being put up in front of MacDintons is
10:05:42 as big as what is on 275.
10:05:47 That is the post.
10:05:48 And the sign is going to be up above here.
10:05:52 This is Howard.
10:05:53 Okay.
10:05:54 This does not conform to the look of Howard.
10:05:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I apologize.
10:06:01 Is it part of the public hearing?
10:06:02 It has to be done at the time that it's heard.
10:06:07 I don't know.
10:06:07 >>HARRY COHEN: I don't think this is something that's even
10:06:11 on our agenda.
10:06:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I want to make sure that we are not --
10:06:17 >> It's not on the agenda.
10:06:18 No.
10:06:19 Anyways, I mean, how is this allowed that they can put up a
10:06:25 sign this huge that doesn't even conform to the
10:06:29 neighborhood?
10:06:31 You know, in speaking with the person that's financing this,
10:06:38 Chad McLaughlin works with the SoHo business alliance and
10:06:41 the chamber, in speaking on the next door neighbor act, told
10:06:46 me to chill out because I'm upset about this, okay.
10:06:49 He lives in Hyde Park.
10:06:51 You know, I asked him what he was going to put on it.
10:06:55 It's going to be Coors Light sign on one side.
10:06:58 Why do they feel a need to advertise Coors Light on Howard?
10:07:03 It doesn't make any sense.
10:07:05 Did they not think about what the neighbors would feel about
10:07:07 this sign going up here?
10:07:10 Is it's all about money.
10:07:13 I know. He leases this out.
10:07:17 He's getting paid probably a hefty fee to have this sign up
10:07:20 here.
10:07:21 You know, at the expense of us.
10:07:25 The bad taste in our mouth of what's going on between us and
10:07:28 all the bars going down here.
10:07:31 >>HARRY COHEN: We have had a lot of issues that we have
10:07:36 been working through recently and we will be talking about
10:07:38 this tomorrow morning, by the way, at the cafe Tampa
10:07:44 meeting.
10:07:45 But we did not approve this billboard.
10:07:47 So we are looking into it.
10:07:48 But I have never heard of it or seen it before and I don't
10:07:52 think anyone else has either.
10:07:55 So I just don't know.
10:07:56 >> Is there protocol to go through to get it put up?
10:08:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Miranda.
10:08:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
10:08:03 And thank you for being here and presenting it to us.
10:08:06 I was informed when I went back to the office to make a
10:08:10 phone call, and my aide showed me that.
10:08:13 I said, what in the hell is that?
10:08:15 >> Thank you.
10:08:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And she said that's a sign going up in
10:08:18 SoHo.
10:08:19 And I looked and I said, well, you know like getting the
10:08:24 skinny kid and throwing the sand in his face and then the
10:08:27 kid grows up to be big and strong.
10:08:29 I'm not looking for a fight but I'm getting tired of things
10:08:32 like this, not only there but throughout the city that are
10:08:35 just violating the intent of something.
10:08:39 We are going to find out.
10:08:40 And if they want an argument and a fight, and if they are
10:08:43 wrong, if they are wrong, they are going to find out that
10:08:45 skinny kid grew up.
10:08:47 And I'm not threatening nobody.
10:08:49 But I'm telling you that we are getting sick and tired of it
10:08:53 happening in this city.
10:08:54 >> What I am finding is that than they are living by the
10:08:56 motto, it's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to ask
10:09:01 permission.
10:09:01 >> I don't forgive.
10:09:03 (Laughter)
10:09:04 Let me tell you that right now.
10:09:06 My father told me something one time.
10:09:08 He never told me twice.
10:09:09 >> I'm done.
10:09:16 Thank you.
10:09:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:09:19 Next speaker.
10:09:20 >> Pastor Frank R. Williams, Sr, located at 1112 East Scott
10:09:29 Street.
10:09:30 And I definitely want to glorify God, and I hope you all
10:09:34 give me opportunity to renew that.
10:09:37 We thank God for another day of living.
10:09:39 Thank God for the blessing of Jesus Christ died on the cross
10:09:42 for our lives.
10:09:44 Everyone we are here today to complain.
10:09:49 It's really not a major complaint but it's a complaints
10:09:51 coming from church folks.
10:09:56 About four or five years ago, this council designated that
10:10:02 church as a historical landmark.
10:10:05 Council, you can talk to my real estate lawyer, and also my
10:10:13 civil lawyer, because we are going through a lot of
10:10:15 problems.
10:10:16 They are handicapping me in my church.
10:10:21 And we don't deserve that.
10:10:22 We deserve everything everybody else gets.
10:10:25 And God has blessed us over 22 years.
10:10:29 And ever since we have been there, the last ten years, they
10:10:34 have been harassing us, threatening us, breaking our
10:10:38 windows, setting the church on fire, they have done all that
10:10:42 they can do to a church.
10:10:55 Council, we need to get your card so I can, a couple of
10:11:01 them, please, so I can give them to have my real estate
10:11:03 lawyer and also to one of my civil lawyers, because there's
10:11:06 so much unjust for certain people, especially people of
10:11:09 color.
10:11:10 And I just can't sit back and let you all just mistreat our
10:11:14 people in any kind of way.
10:11:16 Especially the children that believe in Jesus Christ, and
10:11:20 also love God with all their heart, mind and soul.
10:11:23 And if they don't want to list the historical designation on
10:11:34 the church and they made a false promise they were going to
10:11:37 give us some grant money to fix it up, we haven't Received a
10:11:41 darned penny.
10:11:42 Nobody has sat down and talked with us.
10:11:49 And right now we are operating in the red.
10:11:52 And nobody seems to care.
10:11:55 Now, whatever they decide to do is update us on what they
10:11:59 plan to do. Council, I would definitely like you to talk to
10:12:02 my real estate lawyer and my civil lawyer.
10:12:07 Give me a couple of your cards, please.
10:12:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: Next speaker.
10:12:23 >> My name is Julie McGee, 607 Southwest glenn, and I have
10:12:31 had a few other things before you, but I wanted to back up
10:12:34 what Cathy has to say.
10:12:36 She's part of our newly formed several neighborhoods
10:12:40 associations.
10:12:42 We have found this need to get the local community
10:12:47 associations together, because we are so inundated with this
10:12:52 overdevelopment and these things that are happening to our
10:12:55 neighborhood that affects all the outlying neighborhoods.
10:13:00 But in a text message from Mary O'Connor last night, she can
10:13:06 back this up, actually said no text message about the sign,
10:13:12 that he didn't need anybody's permission, that was
10:13:15 advertising so he didn't have to notify the neighborhood.
10:13:18 Or it had permits, they had permits, but it wasn't a
10:13:21 requirement of needing some approval.
10:13:26 It was city approved.
10:13:27 That's what he said in the text message.
10:13:29 You can read it.
10:13:30 So he's being a real ... nice guy about it.
10:13:35 But I wanted to bring up, since we came here to talk about
10:13:38 the SoHo study, and how South Howard corridor, and I know
10:13:42 that Catherine Coyle is not here but I would like to
10:13:49 understand the difference between a South Howard commercial
10:13:51 corridor study and hiring consultants to do a study on SoHo.
10:13:58 And the reason I ask that is because I may not know the
10:14:01 correct terminology but I had a conversation with Mike
10:14:05 Flores two or three months ago asking specifically about of
10:14:08 why the City of Tampa was spending money on a consultant or
10:14:11 study of South Howard, but yet none of the residents were
10:14:16 being talked to.
10:14:17 That just doesn't seem right.
10:14:18 And I believe the SoHo business alliance is having a whole
10:14:22 lot of influence on what happens on Howard, and they have no
10:14:26 interest in preserving our neighborhood, they do not care
10:14:29 about the neighborhood or the residents.
10:14:31 This is where the sign is going up, O'Connor is part of
10:14:37 that, part owner of the SoHo business alliance.
10:14:40 Alante is the other co-owner owns about seven restaurants so
10:14:46 you have about ten bars that are a major part of this SoHo
10:14:49 business alliance that the city is listening to instead of
10:14:53 talking to the residents.
10:14:54 It's very frustrating.
10:14:57 That's why we are organizing.
10:14:58 So I would like an answer to those things.
10:15:02 Thank you.
10:15:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Next speaker.
10:15:10 >> Good morning, council.
10:15:13 James Worley, wwww.homelesslivesmatter.org, here again to
10:15:21 speak about homelessness in the City of Tampa, and I want to
10:15:25 use an example here.
10:15:35 Just over a week ago, I was alerted by Beth Ross who is also
10:15:41 here about Charles, who was on the bench at Hillsborough and
10:15:49 Armenia.
10:15:50 This man had a broken hip.
10:15:55 Until he got into the emergency room, I did not find out
10:15:57 that he had kidney failure.
10:16:01 And he was being ignored on that bench for three days.
10:16:05 The second day through a rainstorm.
10:16:07 And police officers driving by.
10:16:12 As I sat with him, the night that I went there all night,
10:16:15 officers just driving by, nobody stopping, and the condition
10:16:19 that this man was in as you see in the picture.
10:16:26 This is today at a physical rehab facility after he spent
10:16:30 time having a hip replacement, getting his kidneys are back
10:16:34 in working order.
10:16:37 He survived.
10:16:38 This man would have died on that bench if it had not been
10:16:41 for citizens that let me know.
10:16:48 The police department, this happens continually.
10:16:50 People that are on the streets, they just get driven by.
10:16:54 As Jenny Borello, the woman that I discovered missing for
10:16:59 three years from Colorado, and she's back home with her son.
10:17:05 There needs to be more initiative.
10:17:06 There needs to be more attention.
10:17:08 And have the Hillsborough Homeless Initiative and
10:17:12 Hillsborough County Homeless Services needs to have more
10:17:15 street outreach, and real attention on what's going on.
10:17:19 There's a woman that sleeps just a couple blocks away who is
10:17:22 a professional -- was a professional tennis player.
10:17:26 Defected years ago.
10:17:27 And I can document this and prove this.
10:17:30 This woman has been sleeping there.
10:17:31 There's no shelter.
10:17:33 There's no place for the people to go to get the help.
10:17:38 Metropolitan Ministries, they are not helping these people
10:17:40 that are on the street.
10:17:41 That's a fact.
10:17:44 The community housing solution center, I can show you five
10:17:47 people off the top of my head that went there, spent their
10:17:51 four months and went back to the streets.
10:17:53 It's not helping.
10:17:55 It's not helping.
10:17:56 There needs to be an actual shelter.
10:17:58 And another question that I have.
10:18:04 This is a picture right here taken from a DOT .GOV website.
10:18:12 There's over 600 community leaders throughout the country.
10:18:14 (Bell sounds)
10:18:15 Made up most lit of mayors.
10:18:18 Is Bob Buckhorn parts of this initiative to help end
10:18:21 homelessness?
10:18:24 He doesn't have much to say about homelessness.
10:18:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:18:27 Councilwoman Montelione.
10:18:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, James, for being here again
10:18:31 and it's your presence every week that will keep this issue
10:18:34 at the far front, and we need more people.
10:18:36 Thank you, Ms. Ross, for being here as well.
10:18:39 So after I was alerted to the individual that Mr. Roe is
10:18:49 speaking of, I had Dan McDonald go out there and talk with
10:18:54 him, and at first officer McDonald fest, you know, I don't
10:19:02 want to move tonight, I don't want to move tonight, he
10:19:05 repeatedly refused service.
10:19:06 The next day, officer McDonald went out there and had to
10:19:09 Baker Act him to have take him into a health facility, even
10:19:15 against his will.
10:19:17 And that happens quite often.
10:19:19 So I met with officer McDonald and found out that there's a
10:19:23 program that Tampa police are participating in that is held
10:19:28 by the sheriff's office to deal with mental illness, and
10:19:35 recognize, and had approached people and get them to be
10:19:40 compliant.
10:19:41 Well, I had some issues with that because there seems to not
10:19:46 be any mental health professionals really involved.
10:19:49 It was -- I saw your eyes, Councilwoman Capin.
10:19:56 There were mostly sheriffs from the Hillsborough County
10:19:58 sheriff's office that were in essence teaching these modules
10:20:02 on mental health care, and I think there was maybe one or
10:20:06 two out of the entire program, maybe only one or two mental
10:20:10 health professionals actually really involved.
10:20:12 So that was a concern to me.
10:20:14 It was also a concern to me -- Ms. Capin, you remember, we
10:20:18 for how many years have been asking for money in the budget,
10:20:23 we have been asking for a facility, we have been asking for
10:20:26 additional funds for affordable housing.
10:20:32 I was at an affordable housing advisory board in
10:20:37 Hillsborough County and we had a Councilwoman from Temple
10:20:40 Terrace on a subcommittee, because HOPE, the organization,
10:20:48 has reached an end in working with others to find funding
10:20:52 for affordable housing.
10:20:59 Tampa housing has 2,000 people on their waiting list.
10:21:02 And what I was told by Paula Harvey, administrator at
10:21:06 Hillsborough County, she says that number is ever very low,
10:21:08 because Tampa Housing Authority stop any adding people to
10:21:16 that lists over a year ago.
10:21:18 The lists has been an 8,000-person waiting list.
10:21:22 Then it went to 6.
10:21:23 Then they stopped taking names.
10:21:26 They are working through the list.
10:21:27 So now it's down to 2,000.
10:21:29 But honestly, that lists is probably more -- should be more
10:21:34 like 6,000 people waiting for affordable housing from the
10:21:38 Housing Authority.
10:21:39 That's one of the reasons that I asked for that reports to
10:21:41 come back about the effects of closing some of our housing
10:21:45 facilities.
10:21:45 But we need to do something.
10:21:47 Obviously, not enough is being done.
10:21:53 I don't know of what that is.
10:21:54 But through council maybe on some of the items coming up
10:22:02 over the next couple much months as we go into budgeting.
10:22:05 Our communities, even at the county, it was very frustrating
10:22:10 at the subcommittee meeting yesterday, because it's not
10:22:14 taking a priority in our budget, it's not taking a priority
10:22:18 in the county budget, it's not taking a priorities in the
10:22:20 state budget, and we are at our wit's end.
10:22:23 We have in a funding for affordable housing.
10:22:28 And Mr. Worley is right, the community has solutions that
10:22:34 the county put millions of dollars in.
10:22:36 It's really only people in and out because there is no
10:22:40 affordable housing to be had once these people have spent
10:22:43 time there.
10:22:45 Ms. Harvey says there are individuals who they know go from
10:22:51 church program to church program to church program, you
10:22:54 know, four weeks here, two weeks there, and all they do is
10:22:58 move around because there is nowhere for them to go.
10:23:00 So I'm employing individuals who are -- imploring
10:23:07 individuals who are listening to this broadcast to reach out
10:23:09 to us and hopefully offer some solutions.
10:23:12 But we need to make this a priority in our region.
10:23:15 And the subcommittee is looking at alternative funding
10:23:21 sources.
10:23:21 But those funding sources were already looked at for the
10:23:25 transportation issue before we started to have go for a
10:23:28 sales tax referendum.
10:23:30 And those funding sources are committed.
10:23:36 So unless we as a community say we are going to do something
10:23:39 about this and puts money towards it in our general fund
10:23:42 budget, I don't know what the solution is.
10:23:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: Councilwoman Capin.
10:23:48 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Of well said.
10:23:49 But I want to add that mental illness is at the very thrust
10:23:56 of this homelessness, and we also know of the mass murders.
10:24:05 And we have just shuffled them out to the street, and now
10:24:11 the consequences are coming back, are here.
10:24:16 And the consequences to your action, to our actions, tots
10:24:20 city's actions, to the county's actions, we are witnessing
10:24:24 it now.
10:24:24 And as my colleague said, we have trade.
10:24:33 It's just money being thrown at it but not really -- for
10:24:38 instance, when you mentioned that the Sheriff's Department
10:24:42 had -- it's commendable that they are looking at it.
10:24:46 But really, they need a mental health person or persons on
10:24:51 that.
10:24:54 It's almost like lip service.
10:24:57 We are doing it.
10:24:58 Look, here it is.
10:25:00 We have been doing that for years.
10:25:01 For years.
10:25:02 I have been on council for five and a half years, and from
10:25:07 the beginning it's been than the 2010, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,
10:25:13 and now we are going into 16.
10:25:15 And it is the same story.
10:25:18 It's a very sad statement of our area.
10:25:23 And the state in general not to deal with these very sick
10:25:27 people.
10:25:29 I apologize.
10:25:30 And whatever I can help along with our City Council members,
10:25:34 I will be glad to participate.
10:25:36 >> next speaker.
10:25:40 Next speaker.
10:25:50 >> Rob dobsky, 1124 west Cass Street.
10:25:56 Taxpayer, voter.
10:26:01 Good morning, Mr. Reddick, Mr. Cohen, Mr. Suarez -- Mr.
10:26:08 Suarez is gone -- Mrs. Capein, Mr. --
10:26:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Capin.
10:26:15 >> Capin, I apologize.
10:26:19 Mr -- Mrs. Montelione.
10:26:23 Mr. Maniscalco.
10:26:24 It's nice to have been see a man with passion to come up
10:26:26 here and to comment about our two gentlemen that are goofy
10:26:35 running for president.
10:26:36 And one of the reasons why they are getting so much
10:26:39 attention is because they speak from the heart, and they
10:26:43 speak about issues that people -- we have in this world
10:26:49 political correctness and you guys are basically cutting
10:26:52 through that and getting down to the heart.
10:26:54 And they speak from passion.
10:26:57 Our trust in government is at an all-time look.
10:27:00 And it's because the system that taxpayer funded on all
10:27:11 parts that don't seem to be working.
10:27:13 Today you are going to be making decisions close to $3
10:27:16 million.
10:27:17 Three quarters of a million of that is in technology.
10:27:22 But I suggested to Mr. Shelby one time, why can't we have an
10:27:27 APP that tells us perhaps when number 54 -- at least is in
10:27:37 range, because you have all the money spent on just the two
10:27:40 Tampa citizens here.
10:27:41 And so I suggest to you that perhaps we look at this this
10:27:45 year, and perhaps some way self-employed, I would be here
10:27:52 sitting waiting for my three to minutes talk but most people
10:27:57 can't.
10:27:58 So the systems we have in place tend to stifle democracy.
10:28:08 I watched this petition, and the next thing I would like to
10:28:15 bring up is notification.
10:28:16 Something else that's supposed to be on the agenda this
10:28:19 morning.
10:28:19 It was increasing the notification, 1300 feet to 1,000 feet.
10:28:26 Yes, we have a project going in a neighborhood that's going
10:28:29 to affect everybody.
10:28:31 We only noticed 200 feet by code.
10:28:37 And we have got to look at that.
10:28:41 Why can't it be 1,000?
10:28:43 Because the systems are in place like the billboard guy help
10:28:48 the developers, the business people.
10:28:51 And go against the taxpayers.
10:28:53 Thank you.
10:28:53 (Bell sounds).
10:28:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE: There is an AP.
10:28:58 City of Tampa has an AP that you can download free through
10:29:02 the APP store either iPhone or android and it has links to
10:29:08 different services.
10:29:09 You can click on them and you can also review City Council's
10:29:12 calendar and agenda.
10:29:13 You can report potholes.
10:29:16 You can -- the police department has their own APP for
10:29:20 alerts from the police department.
10:29:22 So --
10:29:24 >> City of Tampa, but it's not realtime what's happening in
10:29:29 this room.
10:29:30 >> Our broadcast is broadcast on HGTV and I asked than the
10:29:37 communications director to bring back to us a method by
10:29:39 which people can testify and have their three minutes before
10:29:44 City Council remotely so they don't have to be here in the
10:29:48 chambers.
10:29:49 We haven't gotten that report back from the communications
10:29:52 director on how that's going to be achieved.
10:29:55 But it's something I moved that the Metropolitan Ministries
10:30:01 and it's something we are looking at here as well.
10:30:03 So we are working on it.
10:30:04 >> Thank you.
10:30:05 >> You're welcome, sir.
10:30:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Next speaker.
10:30:08 You need to pick the pace up.
10:30:10 >> Good morning.
10:30:11 Beth Ross. I live at 3323 west Harris street.
10:30:15 And I am the person who found the gentleman on the bench.
10:30:24 When I came across that gentleman I was on my way to work,
10:30:27 found him slouched over on the bench, came back from work
10:30:31 that day and he was laying down on the bench.
10:30:34 I stopped and gave him some waters and offered him a blanket
10:30:37 because I have an organization called blanket Tampa Bay
10:30:41 where I pass outs blankets tots homeless and when I came
10:30:45 back the next morning he was laying flat, and found outs
10:30:52 that he was in pain.
10:30:53 He had fallen the Saturday before and he has been there ever
10:30:58 since.
10:30:59 He's right in front of a bus stop and people are getting off
10:31:02 the bus and aren't even making eye contacts with him because
10:31:06 it's too uncomfortable.
10:31:09 There's a fire station down the street and I told them about
10:31:11 it and the fire station told him there's nothing they can
10:31:14 do, and like Mr. Worley said there were police officers that
10:31:18 were driving by, there were citizens that were driving by.
10:31:21 My point is if this is an animal, if this is a dog and
10:31:27 somebody left it out to die, somebody would be arrested and
10:31:33 there would be a big public outcry.
10:31:34 This person is homeless but he's still one of us.
10:31:37 And there has to be something done.
10:31:39 There has to be something there to help the homeless people
10:31:43 there.
10:31:44 Yesterday I found a vet who was in a wheelchair right from
10:31:48 front of the university, he was on the sidewalk, and the
10:31:50 guard came out and told him he had to leave because he
10:31:53 didn't look very good in front of their school.
10:31:57 It's a public sidewalk.
10:31:58 But he was forced to leave.
10:32:02 Things like that can't happen.
10:32:04 It's just wrong.
10:32:06 And I'm not a good speaker in public and I don't have any
10:32:10 notes and I'm not a professional, but I just wanted to let
10:32:13 you guys know that it's just terrible what's going on.
10:32:16 We are all humans. We are all citizens of Tampa and we have
10:32:18 to take care of each other.
10:32:19 Thank you.
10:32:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:32:22 Next speaker.
10:32:29 >> Derek Chamblee, Google D-E-R-E-K C-H-A-M-B-L-E-E, Saint
10:32:38 Paul.
10:32:40 Google Derek Chamblee, federal lawsuit.
10:32:42 Derek Chamblee, New City.
10:32:46 Google stadium.
10:32:48 Derek Chamblee, Google Jeb Bush, Prescott Bush, Adolph
10:32:50 Hitler, Nazi party, Republican party, derogatory.
10:32:54 I wanted to speak first of all about the stadium.
10:32:57 I presented the plans to both the City Council and the
10:33:00 county commissioners that would work for Green Bay, can work
10:33:04 for Tampa Bay.
10:33:05 While we are building the stadium in Tampa Hillsborough, the
10:33:09 Rays continue to play in Tropicana, and once the stadium is
10:33:12 built here we are going to build another state-of-the-art
10:33:14 stadium over there where Tropicana is.
10:33:17 It's going to be mixed use, not just condos, but middle
10:33:20 income apartments, businesses and whatnot.
10:33:22 And both stadiums are going to be able to withstand at least
10:33:27 a category three hurricane and not flood as well.
10:33:30 And there must be access to them in case of an emergency
10:33:35 evacuation.
10:33:36 And I have looked -- I was at the county administrator's
10:33:40 office yesterday getting the hurricane guide for this year,
10:33:42 and they laughed and they said it's the same one we had last
10:33:46 year.
10:33:46 There's nothing in there, there's no evacuation plan.
10:33:49 And I just came from the county commission and told them
10:33:51 this very thing, that these stadiums must be built with
10:33:55 transportation money, and they must be built with money from
10:34:00 Hillsborough County, Pinellas County, the city, and even the
10:34:04 outlying counties, because we need them for an emergency
10:34:08 evacuation, sir, to house at least temporarily 75,000
10:34:15 people, and there's money in the -- there's money sets aside
10:34:19 for the sports facilities to be used for the homeless, and
10:34:25 also, so all of these counties in the Tampa Bay need to pay
10:34:32 for these stadiums, and we need to be not held hostage by
10:34:36 the NFL, the major league baseball.
10:34:40 These need to be communicate built.
10:34:43 They need to be community owned for multi-purpose.
10:34:46 And I stand before you against, in the Tribune on Friday,
10:34:53 Mayor Bob Buckhorn's plan to put a new stadium in Central
10:34:57 Park.
10:34:57 It's not the elevation.
10:34:59 We have got to stop this development along the waterfront
10:35:02 until we get an environmental opinion of whether it can
10:35:10 withstand a surge from hurricane.
10:35:13 The former mayor Dick Greco said that the fair ground sites
10:35:16 were a better site.
10:35:18 And I just want to appreciate Councilman Miranda because he
10:35:24 stood up to these big leagues all along, and that's all I
10:35:29 have for now.
10:35:30 Thank you very much.
10:35:30 (Bell sounds).
10:35:40 >> My name is don Phillips, 2006 South Moody Avenue.
10:35:45 And I'm of the several neighborhoods association as well.
10:35:49 And I'm here to speak most about the noise issue with the
10:35:54 clubs and what the police can or cannot do about it, because
10:35:56 every time I have called, which is every single day I have
10:36:00 spoken to Harry Cohen about this, when they come to my
10:36:05 property they are pretty much telling me there's nothing
10:36:07 they can do or the clubs don't care or we don't have enough
10:36:10 power.
10:36:11 So basically, it might be working outside the clubs, and
10:36:16 they are not really able to do anything to go inside and
10:36:20 say, hey, you guys are making so much noise, until some
10:36:23 neighbor calls to complain, versus, for example, speed, to
10:36:30 say somebody is speeding, let's pull the guy over.
10:36:35 So we shouldn't need somebody to call and say, hey, this is
10:36:39 happening, please put the noise down or write a citation.
10:36:47 And also give like a five minute warning, which I don't
10:36:50 think is very fair to get a five minute warning and tore
10:36:53 start over again.
10:36:54 And every single day.
10:36:56 I have stage freight.
10:36:59 So they don't seem to have enough power or their hands are
10:37:02 tied, and different officers have different information.
10:37:05 So I was hoping that maybe we can empower the police tore do
10:37:10 what their job is.
10:37:12 And we have some serious cases here and some really
10:37:17 important things, and this is such an easy thing to solve.
10:37:20 You know, as far as everybody -- sorry.
10:37:26 So, you know, just basically follow the law, the ordinance,
10:37:31 make it a little tougher for them.
10:37:32 Make it he easier for the neighborhood and the police so we
10:37:36 can all get peace and quiet.
10:37:38 We came here to Tampa, you know.
10:37:41 Our house was $450,000.
10:37:43 Not exactly a cheap piece of property.
10:37:50 And the homeowners would like to have some value versus
10:37:54 the -- you know, the Bar Association or whatever they are
10:37:59 called for more crime is happening, more noise, nobody wants
10:38:03 to move to our area.
10:38:04 So I don't know.
10:38:07 That's all I have to say.
10:38:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:38:13 All right.
10:38:14 We or go to item number 7.
10:38:17 No, ma'am, you can't speak again.
10:38:18 >> I would like to add a commentary based on what was asked
10:38:25 to answer a question.
10:38:26 >>HARRY COHEN: I am going to answer your question but I
10:38:29 can't answer it now.
10:38:30 It's going to have to be after the meeting.
10:38:32 That's all.
10:38:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Item number 7.
10:38:35 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Transportation storm waters services.
10:38:44 I was before you back in November to discuss the audit that
10:38:52 was done, the findings and recommendations of that audit.
10:38:55 Based on that presentation discussion, a motion was made.
10:38:58 If you go back and take a look to see if there was any
10:39:02 additional information and to come back and report the
10:39:05 findings related to the decision to purchase the asphalt
10:39:11 paving machine which was done in June of 2012.
10:39:15 So as I mentioned last time that I was here, that decision
10:39:20 was made by our management.
10:39:24 Those department leaders are no longer with the City of
10:39:27 Tampa, so they are not available to discuss the
10:39:30 circumstances and information at the time of their decision.
10:39:34 We did go and do a thorough search of all the files to see
10:39:38 if there was a business plan or decision made of some sort
10:39:42 that supported the decisions of the pieces of equipment.
10:39:46 We did not find that information.
10:39:49 But we do know that the decision went through the proper
10:39:55 prior approval system.
10:39:56 Those protocols were not shortcut at all.
10:40:00 And even though that particular piece of equipment was maybe
10:40:03 not the most ideal choice, the main fault that the audit
10:40:11 pointed to was the fact that it was being underutilized and
10:40:14 there weren't enough hours being put on the machine.
10:40:17 So we have changed that situation.
10:40:21 We have reassigned -- utilized the pavement machine versus
10:40:29 cleaning up after one of the contractors, and made a number
10:40:33 of other changes in our protocols and our processes that
10:40:36 will create a stronger decision-making time frame and
10:40:43 prevent this type of decision making from happening in the
10:40:46 future with those checks and balancing being put into place.
10:40:51 We have also shared all of our information with the legal
10:40:54 department, and they have found that opinion nothing was
10:40:57 inappropriately handled with the purchase of this paving
10:41:00 machine.
10:41:01 And it was also mentioned that would warrant further inquiry
10:41:09 into the matter.
10:41:10 That's the results of our everyone of investigation into the
10:41:12 matter and I can take any further questions if you have any.
10:41:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, any questions by council?
10:41:18 Mr. Suarez.
10:41:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:41:21 Ms. Duncan, thank you for that report.
10:41:23 A couple of questions.
10:41:25 You are saying that everything was done properly.
10:41:28 Okay.
10:41:28 You are saying that the procedure -- if I could walk through
10:41:31 that procedure you are talking about, because obviously the
10:41:34 other managers are not here because they are no longer with
10:41:37 the city.
10:41:39 You are the only person I can talk to about this as to what
10:41:42 was that procedure when the decision -- and obviously it was
10:41:45 purchased in June of 2012.
10:41:46 There was a process that they went through prior to that.
10:41:49 Typically, as you have mentioned, there is a business plan
10:41:54 put forth, but yet you are saying the procedures were
10:41:57 properly followed in order for the purchase.
10:41:59 So there's some disconnect in my mind in terms of if there
10:42:03 was no business plan, which we typically like to see -- is
10:42:07 that not correct?
10:42:08 >> Yes.
10:42:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Tell me what other procedures were followed
10:42:11 that far allowed us to go ahead and purchase this piece of
10:42:14 equipment.
10:42:15 >>JEAN DUNCAN: The procedures are basically coordinating
10:42:20 with the purchase department, going through the vendor
10:42:23 application, and then putting that information into the
10:42:26 system of that then goes through the various departments for
10:42:29 their approval.
10:42:30 Obviously City Council approval, mayor approval.
10:42:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me stop you.
10:42:35 Let's slow it down a little bit.
10:42:37 We have coordination with purchasing.
10:42:38 So then is supposed to know do what, once they get the
10:42:41 request to purchase a piece of equipment?
10:42:43 What's their role in terms of making sure that they are
10:42:47 following the protocols in order to purchase the piece of
10:42:49 equipment?
10:42:50 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I'm not sure if I am prepared to go into
10:42:52 that level of detail of all of the flow chart.
10:42:57 I apologize.
10:42:58 I wasn't really recognizing that that was the level of
10:43:01 detail.
10:43:01 But I can certainly put that together for you.
10:43:05 We do have the SIRE document to show that it went through
10:43:10 that standard process, and purchasing.
10:43:15 We can speak to make sure that the proper acquisition steps
10:43:20 had been taken in terms of securing the vendor.
10:43:24 >> Mike Suarez: Let me stop you there.
10:43:26 I am not actually looking for extreme detail in this, but
10:43:28 there must be a part of the procedure, I would guess, that
10:43:31 the business plan is included.
10:43:32 Is that not part of the procedure?
10:43:35 >>JEAN DUNCAN: That was not part of the procedure at this
10:43:37 time.
10:43:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: It wasn't at the time the purchase happened?
10:43:42 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Correct.
10:43:43 Our purchasing department, our budget department, others
10:43:46 that are approving this, they have to have a certain level
10:43:49 of confidence and trust that it wouldn't get to their point
10:43:53 of decision making if the proper decisions had been made,
10:43:57 and made prior to that.
10:43:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So essentially the department that's working
10:44:02 the peace of equipment has gone and done the due diligence
10:44:05 necessary and found the requisites business plan in order to
10:44:10 go even for the purchasing to begin with?
10:44:14 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Yes.
10:44:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I guess my point is that purchasing then
10:44:17 gathers this information, makes the decision based on what
10:44:21 factors, the price itself for that type of equipment, they
10:44:24 make a comparison?
10:44:25 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Right.
10:44:26 They have a whole set of criteria that they are looking at
10:44:29 in terms of the appropriateness of the vendor that we are
10:44:33 utilizing whether it's equipment or other services.
10:44:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And if I could, meaning service vendor,
10:44:40 somebody that is already on our approved list?
10:44:43 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Yes.
10:44:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That they are a company that provides this
10:44:46 type of equipment so we know we are not dealing with of any
10:44:48 shell companies or any other issues.
10:44:50 Is that correct?
10:44:51 Jean Gene exactly.
10:44:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And the reason I am asking all these
10:44:55 questions is really there is a reason why this did not go
10:44:58 through an it seems based on everything that you have told
10:45:00 me so far that there was a failure on the procedures
10:45:02 themselves to stop the purchase of this piece of equipment
10:45:08 because the procedures were not adequate to find this type
10:45:13 of flaw.
10:45:14 Is that correct?
10:45:15 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Yes.
10:45:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:45:17 So now what procedures have changed in order to make sure
10:45:19 that a situation similar to this doesn't happen again?
10:45:23 >>JEAN DUNCAN: We have a written business plan for the
10:45:29 equipment that we plan to purchase so we can point to those
10:45:37 facts that support that decision, and we have that
10:45:39 documented to justify why we believe that particular choice
10:45:44 is the best to be made.
10:45:50 We started that process.
10:45:51 We came to you with other purchases recently, excavator and
10:45:56 vehicles, and have a written business plan.
10:45:59 For whatever reason the information is necessary.
10:46:01 So that's now integrated into our process.
10:46:04 And we think than is going to be hugely important,
10:46:08 especially in a certain amounts of passes and we have to go
10:46:11 back and pull the facts up, people leave, and we don't have
10:46:15 someone to ask.
10:46:16 It's memorializing those things so that we can have that
10:46:19 timeline to go back and see how the decision was made.
10:46:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: One last question.
10:46:24 But we are still going to be offloading this piece of
10:46:30 equipment, getting paid $126,000, which is significantly
10:46:36 less than the 540,000 that we made to begin with.
10:46:39 Is that correct?
10:46:40 >> Yes, it is less but we are utilizing that piece of
10:46:43 equipment in the meantime of.
10:46:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No, I understand that.
10:46:46 I remember you saying that we are using it to some extent.
10:46:49 We are still not -- I don't think we are still to the point
10:46:52 that it meets some of the 7500 hours necessary to meet the
10:46:58 requirements, if I am correct.
10:47:00 But still that's a huge difference. I know that you were
10:47:02 not in charge of this department when it happened.
10:47:04 I know that unfortunately for you, you have to answer for
10:47:07 things that other folks or other procedures that were put in
10:47:10 place made this happen.
10:47:12 So thank you, Ms. Duncan, for coming up and telling us some
10:47:15 of that process.
10:47:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Miranda.
10:47:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
10:47:20 Ms. Duncan, along the same line, I think a little different.
10:47:23 Not why, how it was bought, but why it was bought.
10:47:26 I have to make some assumptions, if I much talked to any
10:47:30 individuals that did any purchasing or anything.
10:47:32 Soap I would have to, again, take a shot in the dark and say
10:47:36 the reason you buy something is because you think you can do
10:47:39 a better job than your vendor was doing at a lesser price.
10:47:42 That's the only thing I can come up with.
10:47:45 Or that the vendor that you had, or the vendors than applied
10:47:48 for that, were not doing the appropriateness of the act that
10:47:51 far they were hired to do, either putting not enough
10:47:54 asphalt, or taking too long on the job, and those decisions
10:47:58 were made.
10:47:59 Again I am only guessing, that that's why they looked at it
10:48:03 to say we can do better.
10:48:05 However, in doing that, I have talked to some individuals
10:48:08 that have called me, and they told me that one of the
10:48:13 problems with that piece of equipment, that there was a lot
10:48:16 of retirements of the people who ran the equipment that
10:48:19 retired.
10:48:20 I don't know how true that is, but they sent me a phone call
10:48:25 the other day saying are you still interested in knowing
10:48:28 what happened?
10:48:28 And I haven't concluded because I haven't met with them, to
10:48:32 my fault, not theirs.
10:48:33 So I am assuming that those individuals are telling me the
10:48:37 truth, and that individual that called me is saying that
10:48:40 some two or three individuals retired, and that that
10:48:43 equipment was not used to its highest efficiency because the
10:48:47 operators were not fully trained that came on for that piece
10:48:50 of equipment.
10:48:50 I don't know that to be true.
10:48:52 And I don't know that to be false.
10:48:54 Secondly, the individuals are very straightforward.
10:49:00 If not they wouldn't have called me.
10:49:02 They had an interests in seeing that the city gets the
10:49:04 benefits deal that they can get.
10:49:05 And I make that assumption again that's the reason they
10:49:08 called.
10:49:09 I don't think they have any bones with the city, any ax with
10:49:13 the city anything else other than getting what they want
10:49:16 done right.
10:49:17 So the second year of that equipment, even though it was
10:49:20 used more than the first year, was the year that we had all
10:49:23 the rains.
10:49:24 The months of June, July and August, and parts of September.
10:49:27 And even when those slowdowns -- because you can't lay
10:49:31 asphalt when it's raining, you can't lay asphalt when it's
10:49:34 wet.
10:49:35 There's certain criteria that you have to do for that
10:49:38 equipment or any other equipment no matter what the science
10:49:40 is of toe do the job rights depending on the weather.
10:49:43 Even then, that equipment produced more than the prior year.
10:49:46 Am I correct?
10:49:49 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I really don't have the timeline in fronts
10:49:51 of me ton say, but if you researched it, I assume thatch is
10:49:55 correct information.
10:49:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, I didn't say I researched itself.
10:50:00 It's information they gave me and I haven't had time as I
10:50:03 stated earlier to verify were that is facts or not fact.
10:50:06 I assume it is fact because they called.
10:50:11 They want to make sure it's right.
10:50:13 So that's the only information I have, Mr. Chairman.
10:50:15 And I am going to continue on this.
10:50:17 And now I have time to meet with them and I'll sit down
10:50:23 after Saturday when I go see the band play and we'll do what
10:50:27 we have to do to come down to the facts.
10:50:29 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
10:50:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: The rockers.
10:50:38 Any other questions by council? We thank you.
10:50:41 Item number 8.
10:50:42 Need a motion to move the resolution.
10:50:44 >> So moved.
10:50:46 >> Second.
10:50:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Miranda.
10:50:48 Second bill Mr. Cohen.
10:50:49 All in favor of the motion say aye.
10:50:51 Those opposed?
10:50:52 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Montelione voting no.
10:50:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
10:50:58 Item number 9.
10:51:06 Anyone from staff on item number 9?
10:51:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I can discuss that.
10:51:11 I had an opportunities to meats with city attorney and
10:51:13 Councilwoman Montelione about this.
10:51:15 I provided you with a copy of the proposed county changes
10:51:20 regarding their lobbying ordinance.
10:51:25 And they are scheduled to take it up actually -- as a matter
10:51:28 of fact, today.
10:51:30 That being the case, it's sets for public hearing.
10:51:33 And I will be able to updates the council as to what
10:51:36 happened.
10:51:36 But I defer to Ms. Montelione, this being her motion.
10:51:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:51:42 So I was provided and Mr. Shelby provided copies of the
10:51:48 Hillsborough County proposed ordinance.
10:51:53 In reviewing it, there are a few things that we have to work
10:51:56 out with the county before we go forward, but as Mr. Shelby
10:52:00 and I discussed with another ordinance in Hillsborough
10:52:05 County, applies to the City of Tampa and not being enforced,
10:52:09 I want to make sure that we are in alignment, and Mr. Shelby
10:52:13 recommended that we pass our own ordinance in order for
10:52:18 therefore to be accountability here at the city.
10:52:23 So what I would like to do is make this motion.
10:52:26 And I'll provide this to you, Sandy, for your records. I
10:52:31 move to directs the legal department to bring back an
10:52:33 ordinance for discussion on March 17th under staff
10:52:35 reports that amends the city's ethics code, definition of
10:52:39 lobbyist and lobbying, to be consistent with the
10:52:42 newly-amended Hillsborough County code and keeps the city's
10:52:46 enforcement process and penalties with the city's ethics
10:52:49 officer and the ethics commission.
10:52:51 Further, that the legal department work with the city
10:52:53 administration to meet with Hillsborough County government
10:52:56 and the county attorney to see if the City of Tampa can
10:52:59 utilize the county's lobbyist registration process, creating
10:53:03 reciprocity, to simplify and extreme line registration and
10:53:07 reporting, to make lobbying disclosure consistent and more
10:53:10 transparent, and incorporates a new registration and
10:53:14 reporting provision and penalties for noncompliance into the
10:53:17 ordinance amending our lobby code.
10:53:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Second.
10:53:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:53:21 Got a motion from Mrs. Montelione, seconded by Mrs. Capin.
10:53:26 Discussion on the motion?
10:53:27 Mr. Cohen.
10:53:27 >>HARRY COHEN: I'm supportive of the motion, but I do want
10:53:30 to ask that you mites wants to -- and this much might be in
10:53:35 the form of a friendly amendment -- you might want to ask
10:53:38 the city clerk to be involved in the process as well,
10:53:42 because someone is going to have to administer the sign-in
10:53:48 sheets and the actual Americas of who is coming in and out.
10:53:52 And I think that they have certainly an interests in being a
10:53:57 part of that discussion, so we make sure that whatever goes
10:54:01 on in the third floor is seamless.
10:54:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think he was offering a friendly AME.
10:54:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Our currents code we have a process for
10:54:14 sign-in sheets and the ethics officer, Kimberly, I believe,
10:54:19 who is responsible for logging and monitoring, each
10:54:24 department, not only, you know, ourselves and the lobbyists
10:54:27 who come here but anywhere in the city.
10:54:30 So than that is already a process that exists.
10:54:37 So what this would do is refine the process, because you're
10:54:41 right, there needs to be some uniformity, because I don't
10:54:47 think that uniform if I throughout the city.
10:54:50 >>HARRY COHEN: I guess what I am suggesting is you at least
10:54:53 explore the idea of having the clerk be the custodian of the
10:54:56 record of formally who signs in.
10:54:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Sure.
10:55:00 I will accept that as an amendment.
10:55:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:55:04 Mr. Suarez?
10:55:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
10:55:07 And this is just a recommendation, Ms. Montelione, for the
10:55:12 motion itself.
10:55:14 That Mr. Shelby, in addition to all the other sources that
10:55:17 you mentioned in terms of drafting the ordinance, that look
10:55:22 at some model language that may be part of the Florida
10:55:26 League of Cities and also the National League of Cities.
10:55:29 And I don't know if that was part of it originally.
10:55:32 But I don't remember who was talking about it, but I would
10:55:34 recommend that if that's amenable to you.
10:55:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: [Off microphone.]
10:55:45 >> The question ultimately comes down to whether there's a
10:55:49 benefit to the city being consistent with Hillsborough
10:55:52 County, in the sake of simplicity, the sake of streamlining,
10:55:59 and the sake of lack of confusion and certain clarity to the
10:56:03 lobbying community, so that everybody understands what the
10:56:06 rules are and has a consistency in that sense.
10:56:10 But other than that, I guess the original motion was to wait
10:56:14 to see what the county was going to do.
10:56:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Right.
10:56:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: To see if the city can be consistent with
10:56:22 that.
10:56:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the county's proposed ordinance in
10:56:24 terms of -- [Off microphone] -- of what the county
10:56:31 commissioners are doing.
10:56:45 Sorry.
10:56:46 So the idea would be to have a similar process like our
10:56:54 small local business contracting.
10:56:56 So there's one place of registration, register at the
10:57:00 county, and then they would -- the City of Tampa would
10:57:06 certain fir their registration with the county.
10:57:08 But there's a lot of language in their ordinance that
10:57:13 presents some challenges.
10:57:16 I mean, the one statement is an applicabilities number 6,
10:57:19 the ordinance shall be applicable in all unincorporated
10:57:22 areas of Hillsborough County, and to all incorporated areas
10:57:26 of Hillsborough County where there is no existing conflict
10:57:28 of law or municipal ordinances, which means that by that
10:57:32 statement it would be the county attorney who would be
10:57:35 responsible for enforcement, which is why, Mr. Shelby and I
10:57:38 discussed this, thought that we need to have our own
10:57:41 ordinance.
10:57:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, my discussion has nothing to do with
10:57:46 that specific procedural part of it.
10:57:48 Just some of the language that might be helpful to us
10:57:51 through either the Florida League of Cities or the National
10:57:53 League of Cities.
10:57:54 That's all I was requesting as a friendly amendment.
10:57:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Like I said, we looked at the Florida
10:58:03 League of Cities.
10:58:04 But I will include that.
10:58:06 We'll look at it again after Hillsborough County, after we
10:58:11 review the discussion with Hillsborough County because they
10:58:12 may be doing the same thing.
10:58:15 Or the county association.
10:58:17 So once the county has scheduled a place where this is
10:58:24 actually going to be addressed and go forward, we can then
10:58:27 compare the League of Cities' language, and then include the
10:58:33 clerk's office and work out some further details.
10:58:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If it's acceptable tots maker of the
10:58:39 motion and acceptable to you, Mr. Suarez, as a friendly
10:58:41 amendment, at the time that the legal department brings back
10:58:45 the ordinance, I can have information for you and council to
10:58:49 see relative to the League of Cities and the Florida league
10:58:52 of national.
10:58:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's all I'm asking.
10:58:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
10:58:57 Good.
10:58:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion from Mrs. Montelione,
10:59:00 seconded by Ms. Capin with a friendly amendment by Mr.
10:59:04 Cohen, seconded by Mrs. Capin, friendly amendment bill Mr.
10:59:08 Suarez, seconded by Ms. Capin.
10:59:12 Any more amendments?
10:59:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I think we are good.
10:59:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:59:17 All those in favor of the motion say yay.
10:59:19 Those opposed?
10:59:20 Okay.
10:59:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:59:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:59:23 We go to item number 12.
10:59:32 Item number 127.
10:59:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I was writing down the amendment.
10:59:47 >> Good morning.
10:59:54 Captain with the Tampa Police Department.
10:59:56 I was asked by Mr. Smith with the city attorney's office to
10:59:59 compile some crash statistics pursuant to your motion, and I
11:00:05 believe the city attorney's office had a memo.
11:00:11 The criteria I used to count the crashes were any crashes
11:00:14 that would result in a long form crash report which the
11:00:18 criteria would be any injury, if the vehicle was damaged to
11:00:22 the point where it had to be towed from the scene or any
11:00:26 other criminal charges such as DUI.
11:00:36 Number 2 in the memo, you will see the column on the left
11:00:43 lists the intersections.
11:00:44 The next column with the blue header on it, those were the
11:00:49 previous 12 months.
11:00:50 Those are the 12 months prior to the installation of any red
11:00:53 light cameras.
11:00:54 Any sequence column, they are divided into of 12-month
11:00:58 period.
11:00:59 And that shows the total of the crashes reported.
11:01:09 We didn't include any criteria as far as how far away from
11:01:17 the intersection the crash occurred, or any causation or
11:01:22 contributing factors.
11:01:24 So any crash that was reported, where a long form was
11:01:30 initiated, that listed one of our red light camera
11:01:33 intersections on the crash was counted within the data.
11:01:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
11:01:56 These are where there was injury.
11:01:57 No?
11:01:59 How would these numbers -- these numbers are exactly what
11:02:03 kind of crashes?
11:02:04 >> If there was an injury, if there was a complaints of
11:02:09 injury or possible injury, or if a vehicle had to be towed
11:02:12 from the scene due to the extensive damage or if there was a
11:02:15 criminal violation such as DUI or, you know, reckless
11:02:20 driving or something along those lines.
11:02:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: So the fender benders, where the person runs
11:02:31 into the rear end of another car that's stopped, that's not
11:02:35 here, unless there was injury?
11:02:39 >> Correct.
11:02:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
11:02:44 I think the state included that, the state numbers included
11:02:49 that.
11:02:51 I'm sure because their numbers are way different than these
11:02:54 numbers.
11:03:01 I'm looking at these numbers.
11:03:04 And it's city-wide.
11:03:09 And then you need to go to the next page.
11:03:16 And the following page.
11:03:19 And you have -- the one thing that I did, it goes to 2010
11:03:29 and then -- and thank you for that because that's when I
11:03:32 came on City Council.
11:03:33 So the numbers are -- I'm looking at these numbers, and I
11:03:40 don't see -- I don't see the improvement or the value to our
11:03:49 tax-paying citizens in this, in these numbers.
11:03:59 And that's how we were told this would stop -- this would
11:04:04 help and stop crashes.
11:04:07 And it's not there.
11:04:08 And it's costing us a lot.
11:04:10 Our taxpayers a lot of money.
11:04:15 This contract is up in April.
11:04:16 I know we have litigation pending.
11:04:18 The contractor probably will come up to before it even sees
11:04:25 the light of day in court.
11:04:27 So -- I appreciate the numbers.
11:04:35 But I don't think it's a complete picture at all.
11:04:43 One of the things that's a problem and has been a problem is
11:04:45 those rear-end crashes that happen when someone suddenly
11:04:54 stops at the intersection.
11:04:57 And that's not here.
11:05:19 I appreciate that you came up with the numbers but I,
11:05:23 Councilman Capin, does not see the numbers and we ran this
11:05:27 for three, four years?
11:05:28 How many years have we had this, three, four years?
11:05:31 >> Four years.
11:05:33 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Four years.
11:05:34 And city after city after city is abandoning it.
11:05:44 For the same reason.
11:05:46 It's not a value to our citizens.
11:05:47 That's the numbers I see based on this.
11:05:49 Thank you.
11:05:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
11:05:52 So sometimes with the issue of red light cameras, we get a
11:05:59 lot of e-mails.
11:06:00 I'm sure everybody saw them.
11:06:01 But I went through and started reading them.
11:06:03 And I would say most of them -- I would venture a guess, say
11:06:09 probably 90% of them or 98% of them were stop the red lights
11:06:13 cameras.
11:06:14 So I don't know if there was a moveon.ORG petition because
11:06:20 some of them just had one word in it and lots of them but
11:06:24 there were one or two or so in ever there that were
11:06:29 supportive.
11:06:30 And we were given a presentation by Dr. Heather Rosenberg
11:06:39 who is a national expert on pedestrian safety, and one of
11:06:45 the charges when she gave her presentation in the strategy
11:06:52 to prevent pedestrian death, which is our huge issue,
11:06:59 because we are number two in the entire country in
11:07:02 pedestrian death, to create a pedestrian-bicycle action
11:07:07 safety plan red light cameras was one of them, because even
11:07:10 though there might be -- and I say might very loosely
11:07:17 because the statistics -- it was really hard to read this
11:07:22 zero one spreadsheet.
11:07:23 I felt like I was looking at some code or computer program
11:07:27 or something.
11:07:30 But it's hard to quantities if I, because sometimes the
11:07:33 cameras were there and not working.
11:07:35 Sometimes the intersections had cameras added to them.
11:07:39 Sometimes cameras had cameras subtracted from them.
11:07:43 So it was really hard to distill the information, and unless
11:07:47 we get a statistician in here or somebody who can distill
11:07:51 this information, it's really, really difficult to
11:07:54 understand.
11:07:56 So I don't know what the state is going to do with the red
11:08:00 light camera program.
11:08:01 They might take it out of our hands, and for us to discuss
11:08:07 whether we have a red light camera program or we don't.
11:08:10 But we don't report how many pedestrians were saved because
11:08:15 somebody stopped.
11:08:17 And a fender bender could be, you know, where there's a
11:08:24 rear-end collision because of a yellow light issue, or
11:08:27 somebody slams on the brakes.
11:08:31 When I see drivers were supposed to leave at least a car
11:08:35 length, I think it was, per mile-an-hour or five
11:08:38 mile-an-hour -- you will have to remind me.
11:08:41 >> Ten.
11:08:41 >> Ten miles an hour, one car length between you and the car
11:08:44 in fronts of you for every ten miles an hour.
11:08:46 So on Busch Boulevard where the speed limits is 40 miles per
11:08:50 hour you are supposed to leave four car lengths between you.
11:08:53 So if the person who is stopping at the light is yellow,
11:08:56 there's a red light camera, they are worried, they slam on
11:08:59 the brakes, you have four car lengths between you and them
11:09:04 to stop.
11:09:06 That's quite a distance.
11:09:07 And I'm sure that that would help prevent rear end crashes
11:09:12 if people followed that rule.
11:09:20 I don't see people following that rule very often.
11:09:23 I think there's other methods.
11:09:24 One is making the yellow light the proper timing to give
11:09:27 people the opportunities to stop.
11:09:28 And the other is having the appropriate number of car
11:09:31 lengths between you and the car in fronts of you so when you
11:09:34 do stop, you have -- when they do stop, you have time to
11:09:38 stop as well.
11:09:39 We cannot say how many lives we saved because somebody
11:09:42 stopped at a red light or stopped at a yellow light to
11:09:47 prevent someone from being hit by a car.
11:09:50 And that's a value that we can't assign.
11:09:55 And I think that's a value that since we have the red light
11:09:58 camera program in place that there is the opportunity to
11:10:05 save some of those lives.
11:10:06 And we had a record year last year in Hillsborough County.
11:10:11 51, maybe 52.
11:10:13 I don't remember about, people died crossing the streets in
11:10:17 Hillsborough County.
11:10:18 So any strategy we can utilize to bring that number down is
11:10:26 worthwhile to me.
11:10:27 And to people who have say it's a cash grab or, you know,
11:10:30 it's big brother, there are cameras everywhere, big brother
11:10:35 is already here.
11:10:38 I am supportive of the program, and we'll have to wait and
11:10:43 see what the state does to know whether or not people want
11:10:47 this discussion here at council.
11:10:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: Ms. Capin?
11:10:53 Mr. Miranda.
11:10:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I appreciate it, Mr. Chairman.
11:10:57 Time doesn't change, people change, technology changes.
11:10:59 But when you look back at what happened it's very simple.
11:11:06 Usually I have than a car without air conditioning, with
11:11:10 only an AM radio and a heater the size of a popcorn box.
11:11:14 That was it.
11:11:16 The windows were down.
11:11:17 And you could listen.
11:11:19 You could see.
11:11:19 You could hear the sirens.
11:11:23 All personnel, fair, police, now the dashboard looks like a
11:11:29 ship coming in because you can't hear anything because you
11:11:31 got window all the way up, air conditioned, you have cell
11:11:34 phones, and somebody is having lunch or breakfast or
11:11:37 whatever eating in the car all at the same time.
11:11:40 That's the problem we have today and accidents.
11:11:45 No one -- I shouldn't say no one.
11:11:47 Some of us have fallen into that category of no one is
11:11:51 paying attention of wherever the hell they are going other
11:11:54 than to get from point A to point B and they don't care what
11:11:57 happens.
11:11:58 So they drive, and they drive.
11:12:02 However, let me say, there hasn't been one time in the last
11:12:05 couple of weeks, every two weeks, I am going down the
11:12:09 streets and somebody is walking in the middle of the street,
11:12:11 crossing the street, not even looking.
11:12:15 And that's what happens, too.
11:12:17 So there's a combination here of things.
11:12:20 What happened last night?
11:12:21 I went to dinner with a friend of mine.
11:12:23 On the way back we almost ran somebody over.
11:12:26 Walking just across the street with two bags coming outs of
11:12:29 the grocery store.
11:12:30 Didn't even look.
11:12:31 Just walked.
11:12:32 And so what's happening is the combination of facts that we
11:12:36 can't teach.
11:12:37 We can't control.
11:12:39 And we can barely correct, because they have too many things
11:12:43 on their mind, and everything is calculating at once, and
11:12:46 the computer is turned off.
11:12:48 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:12:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
11:12:52 Ms. Capin.
11:12:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
11:12:55 As far as the pedestrian deaths, we have red light cameras
11:12:59 and those numbers haven't come down that we can look at how
11:13:02 many people were saved, that we can't.
11:13:05 There is a way to stop.
11:13:06 You know that white line as you approach an intersection?
11:13:10 There's a solid white lane.
11:13:13 That's telling you how much time you have to stop, and the
11:13:16 yellow light at a certain speed.
11:13:20 That's what that white line is telling you.
11:13:22 >> You are talking about the solid white line in between?
11:13:29 Parallel like the lane divider?
11:13:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No, no.
11:13:33 The white line and you stop.
11:13:34 >> That's where you are supposed to stop before you cross
11:13:47 the crosswalk.
11:13:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Every intersection has that white line.
11:13:55 I was just at driving school because of an accidents that I
11:13:58 had.
11:13:59 And in the driving school, it was taught, it was told, that
11:14:04 white line -- and if you look at them, they are not all the
11:14:08 same length.
11:14:10 I'm surprised that no one knows this.
11:14:13 If you look at the white line, not all of them are the same
11:14:17 length.
11:14:18 Why?
11:14:18 Because it's telling you how much time you have to stop when
11:14:22 you see that yellow light at a certain speed that you should
11:14:27 be able to stop your car.
11:14:30 And if you don't think that's true, then look it up with the
11:14:32 state because that's the information --
11:14:37 >> I think I know what you are referring to.
11:14:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
11:14:41 So there is, right there on the street, telling you to stop,
11:14:49 that white line.
11:14:50 And the thing is, the cash cow, obviously it's not a cash
11:14:55 cow.
11:14:55 That is very obvious it's not a cash cow.
11:14:58 But is it a value?
11:14:59 Is it a value to our citizens?
11:15:02 City after city after city has found it is not, it is not
11:15:09 giving the return on investment.
11:15:10 And that's what we are looking at.
11:15:12 That's what I am looking at, is what the citizens are paying
11:15:15 for this program, and what is the return? And it's been
11:15:24 three years, four years, and the diminished returns is what
11:15:31 it looks like.
11:15:32 So that's why I asked for them.
11:15:37 I know we have pending litigation.
11:15:38 I knew there was public record with these facts.
11:15:43 They are not exactly the facts that the state has but they
11:15:46 are there.
11:15:47 And I thank you for your hard work.
11:15:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me just say this, and that is, I know
11:15:56 next month, on the 4th, we are going to be discussing
11:16:00 the issue again.
11:16:01 With the legal department and the police department.
11:16:06 One of the things that we are going to be looking at is that
11:16:08 are we have -- they are going to present us the copies of
11:16:11 the contract as a part of the discussion on the 4th,
11:16:15 next month.
11:16:16 The issue I have -- and I understand the report.
11:16:24 I thank Mrs. Capin for questioning this report, and it's
11:16:27 been presented to us today.
11:16:30 I'm just surprised that she was at driver school, and --
11:16:45 (Laughter)
11:16:45 But here is my concern.
11:16:47 And it's a concern of other municipalities that I see around
11:16:50 the city.
11:16:52 We are losing money.
11:16:55 The vendors are making more money than the city.
11:16:57 And that is a concern of mine.
11:16:59 And when you get to the point where the vendors are
11:17:03 generating more revenue than the city, and one of the things
11:17:07 we are looking at, with some of these revenues, to
11:17:09 improve -- I think we have a 25% agreement with the city, by
11:17:16 this council, to approve infrastructure around the areas
11:17:19 where these tickets are issued, and now, that percentage has
11:17:26 gone down tremendously because they are not generating
11:17:29 revenue.
11:17:30 And I agree with a lot of the municipalities that are
11:17:36 cutting out the red light cameras.
11:17:38 I think it was Gulfport, city of Gulfport, that voted to not
11:17:44 continue it.
11:17:45 I don't think we have to wait for what Tallahassee is going
11:17:48 to do.
11:17:49 And it bothers me when we had that discussion because we
11:17:52 were talking about an issue last year waiting on Tallahassee
11:17:55 to take some action on something, and we are still waiting.
11:17:59 And it's the same problem with special going on, and we are
11:18:05 going to be meeting in February 4th, and I just want to
11:18:10 put staff on notice today that I plan to introduce a motion,
11:18:18 whether it gets support or not, to modify our contract or
11:18:22 rescind it and not be renewed when it comes up in of a few
11:18:26 months, because I think we can't continues to lose money and
11:18:33 pay to one company when we are not -- the city is not
11:18:37 benefiting directly.
11:18:38 And so whether it has the supports of the downfall council
11:18:41 or not, we are either going to modify have been as some of
11:18:45 the municipalities have done, or ask it be terminated.
11:18:49 And I will put council on notice and staff on notice now
11:18:52 that will happen on February 4th.
11:18:54 So if there's no other questions, some comments from
11:18:57 council, we will move on.
11:19:01 All right, thank you.
11:19:02 We go to committee reports.
11:19:07 Mr. Miranda.
11:19:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:19:09 I move items 13 through 18.
11:19:11 >> Second.
11:19:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a motion by Mr. Miranda.
11:19:14 Second by Mr. Suarez.
11:19:15 All in favor of the motion say aye.
11:19:18 Opposed?
11:19:19 All right.
11:19:20 Parks and recreation, Mr. Maniscalco.
11:19:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I move items number it 19 through 22.
11:19:26 >> Second.
11:19:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Maniscalco.
11:19:29 Second by Mr. Miranda.
11:19:30 All in favor?
11:19:31 Ever opposed?
11:19:32 Public Works Committee, Mr. Suarez.
11:19:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I move items 23 through 29.
11:19:36 >> Second.
11:19:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Suarez.
11:19:39 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
11:19:40 All in favor of the motion say aye.
11:19:42 Opposed?
11:19:43 We go to Finance Committee, Mr. Cohen.
11:19:45 >>HARRY COHEN: I move item 33.
11:19:55 >> Motion by Mr. Cohen.
11:19:57 Second by Mr. Miranda.
11:19:59 All in favor?
11:20:00 Ever opposed?
11:20:01 Building zoning, Mrs. Montelione.
11:20:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move 34 through 45.
11:20:06 >> Second.
11:20:07 >> Motion by Mrs. Montelione.
11:20:09 Second by Mr. Cohen.
11:20:10 All in favor?
11:20:11 Opposed?
11:20:12 Transportation committee, Mrs. Capin.
11:20:15 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I move items 46 through 51.
11:20:19 >> Second.
11:20:20 >> Got a motion from Mrs. Capin.
11:20:22 Second by Mr. Miranda.
11:20:23 All in favor?
11:20:24 Opposed?
11:20:25 Okay.
11:20:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move 52 through 53.
11:20:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
11:20:36 All in favor say aye.
11:20:38 Opposed?
11:20:38 Okay.
11:20:39 >>HARRY COHEN: I move to open items 54 through 58.
11:20:53 >> Second.
11:20:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: Seconded by Mr. Maniscalco.
11:20:58 All in favor say aye.
11:20:59 Opposed?
11:21:00 Item number 54.
11:21:02 54 be continued.
11:21:09 >>LISA MONTELIONE: To February 25th.
11:21:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
11:21:12 Got a motion by Mrs. Montelione.
11:21:21 Evening he session at 6 p.m.
11:21:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone in the public wish to speak on item
11:21:25 number 54?
11:21:28 Okay.
11:21:28 >> Move to close.
11:21:30 >> Second.
11:21:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
11:21:38 Second by Mr. Maniscalco.
11:21:39 All in favor of the motion?
11:21:41 Opposed?
11:21:42 Anyone wishing to -- anyone wishing to speak on items 55
11:21:49 through 58, please stand to be sworn.
11:21:51 (Oath administered by Clerk)
11:22:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: Item number 55.
11:22:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (Off microphone) Mr. Chairman, I have
11:22:27 read all the documents regarding item 55 and I will
11:22:34 relinquish my vote here to speak as a private citizen, and I
11:22:36 am not going to give up that right to speak as a private
11:22:36 citizen on item number 55. I did sign a disclosure this
11:22:42 morning and presented it to the clerk's office.
11:22:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
11:22:46 All right.
11:22:46 Staff, 55.
11:22:47 >>JULIA MANDELL: City attorney.
11:22:49 I am going to hand Mr. Shelby some documents if you wouldn't
11:22:53 mind helping me pass them out.
11:22:54 I would appreciate it.
11:23:25 This item which is application Z-12-49 is being brought back
11:23:30 to you as a result of litigation which the city is currently
11:23:34 involved with, with St. Joseph's Hospital.
11:23:37 For the record, the case is case 14-CA-000-378.
11:23:46 This complaint was filed against the City of Tampa as a
11:23:49 result of City Council's denial of a rezoning application
11:23:53 back in 2013, I believe is when it was.
11:23:57 This particular rezoning has come back to you on several
11:24:01 occasions as part of the statutory Florida land use and
11:24:08 water mediation process which we brought back several
11:24:14 proposals to you to see if there was a way to mediate the
11:24:17 dispute as it relates to this particular case, and right now
11:24:20 what is in front of you is, after going through the process
11:24:24 of the mediation and the litigation as well as having a
11:24:32 closed session on this matter, I am bringing back to you the
11:24:34 rezoning, the mediated settlement on this rezoning which is
11:24:38 the exact same settlement which was brought to City Council
11:24:42 about a year ago as part of the Florida statute mediation
11:24:55 process.
11:24:55 I have also handed out a copy of the site plan which is in
11:24:55 front of you today as well as a revision sheet that should
11:24:55 city council decide to approve this rezoning today, and I
11:24:58 will ask you to include as part of your motion to make these
11:25:01 changes between first and second reading, and I will
11:25:03 describe them in just one moment.
11:25:05 As I said, this is a case that's being brought back to you
11:25:08 as a result of mediation in our litigation of this matter.
11:25:13 We do need to hold two full public hearings as per your code
11:25:17 on the rezoning ordinance.
11:25:22 The particulars of this case, if you have any specific
11:25:25 questions I will ask Abbye Feeley to answer those since she
11:25:28 is better able to speak in planning speak than I am, but I
11:25:32 will tell you a few of the issues that have arisen as part
11:25:36 of the mediated settlement proposal and the things that are
11:25:40 being brought to you.
11:25:41 As you may recall, the original rezoning was associated with
11:25:45 the St. Joseph's Women's Hospital.
11:25:47 It was a planned development rezoning which would
11:25:50 incorporate additional properties south of -- north of --
11:25:57 I'm sorry -- north of Lake Avenue and south of San Isabel
11:26:02 Street.
11:26:03 That property had a current zoning of a residential zoning
11:26:07 and it would bring that into the planned development to
11:26:09 provide an opportunity for parking associated with St.
11:26:14 Joseph's hospital.
11:26:16 Ultimately, that first application was denied but was
11:26:19 brought back to you in the latest iteration of that site
11:26:22 plan rezoning, would have several conditions associated with
11:26:26 it, but were not part of the original rezoning application.
11:26:31 The first of those would be -- there is an existing linear
11:26:37 park as part of a previous rezoning application that the
11:26:40 city owns and maintains that property.
11:26:43 It would take the linear park which is 50 feet between Lake
11:26:46 Avenue and 50 feet north of Lake Avenue.
11:26:49 And would take that all the way across the back of the St.
11:26:53 Joseph's property from MacDill over to the Gomez Avenue.
11:26:59 St. Joseph's has agreed to go ahead and complete that linear
11:27:02 park.
11:27:04 And while it will keep the property as part of the linear
11:27:07 park in its ownership, it will give us an maintenance
11:27:13 agreement under which they will agree to maintain that
11:27:16 portion of their property as part of the linear park, as
11:27:19 well as the City of Tampa property that was currently
11:27:23 obligated to maintain.
11:27:24 It would maintain the sidewalk that's existing there as well
11:27:28 as the construction of a wall, 50 feet back from the
11:27:34 property line, and it would extend the existing wall.
11:27:38 In addition to that, St. Joseph has agreed on the other side
11:27:42 of the wall as part of its properties to plant vegetation
11:27:45 which would grow high enough to create as visible barrier
11:27:50 between the parking lot and the residential properties which
11:27:54 are on Lake Avenue, and to also -- all lighting be directed
11:28:00 inward, towards the parking lot, with a limitation on the
11:28:06 foot candles that can go outside -- outside of the wall.
11:28:10 The second change really from the original rezoning was a
11:28:15 commitment on the part of St. Joseph's hospital to have a
11:28:18 restrictive covenant put in place which would prohibit any
11:28:24 future request for any vertical construction, and that's 70
11:28:31 feet from the right-of-way line of Lake Avenue.
11:28:33 Now keep in mind with this existing rezoning does not have
11:28:36 any vertical construction happening within the parking lot
11:28:40 area.
11:28:41 But this would be a future restriction that they would be
11:28:45 agreeing to.
11:28:46 As of now that would not just be a restriction that is part
11:28:49 of the planned development rezoning but would also be part
11:28:52 of the restrictive covenant in favor of the city.
11:28:57 In essence, those two agreements, agreements that weighed
11:29:01 previously discussed, St. Joseph's during the mediation
11:29:06 process has continued to agree to have those 2001 provisions
11:29:10 move forward if we were able to settle the case and would
11:29:15 all agree to our own attorney fees and costs and we would
11:29:18 resolve the litigation in that manner.
11:29:20 In order to move forward you will need to approve the
11:29:23 rezoning, and the rezoning ordinance in a manner consistent
11:29:26 with the processes which requires a public hearing today and
11:29:28 the second public hearing on the rezoning ordinance.
11:29:32 The site plan is the site plan that you have in front of
11:29:34 you.
11:29:34 The ordinance remains the ordinance that you have
11:29:36 previously. I passed out a revision sheet which would add
11:29:41 the following two notes between first and second reading as
11:29:45 a way to ensure that the key provisions that I talked about
11:29:48 are continuing through the rezoning.
11:29:50 The first one says that prior to the issuance of the site
11:29:54 development permit, petitioner shall record set back
11:30:01 prohibiting construction within the 70-foot southern
11:30:03 boundary of the property line of the added open space
11:30:06 area -- that's the part of the property of owned by St.
11:30:09 Joseph's -- and within the 20-foot of the northern property
11:30:12 line of the linear park as depicted on the site plan.
11:30:15 So everybody understands, that linear park is owned bits
11:30:19 city and 50-foot so that won add to the 70-foot building
11:30:22 line setback all the way across the back property line.
11:30:27 Again that's something that will still be on the condition
11:30:30 within the site plan, that would also be a restrictive
11:30:34 covenant which would be recorded as part of the property
11:30:38 records.
11:30:39 The second revision that I am suggesting between first and
11:30:44 second reading to be added to the site plan, prior to the
11:30:46 final inspection of the project, petitioner shall execute a
11:30:49 maintenance agreement for that portion of the property ever
11:30:51 within the city-owned linear park and petitioner-owned added
11:30:56 space in which petitioner will agree to maintain the
11:30:58 required landscape and sidewalk within the linear park and
11:31:01 added open space as depicted on the site plan.
11:31:04 The city hereby grants access to the city owned linear park
11:31:09 for the maintenance and installation of the required
11:31:11 landscaping and sidewalk extension as depicted on the site
11:31:13 plan.
11:31:14 With that, I will conclude.
11:31:16 This is a public hearing.
11:31:17 And I'm available for any additional questions.
11:31:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions by council?
11:31:22 All right, petitioner?
11:31:24 Anyone?
11:31:25 >>JULIA MANDELL: It would be appropriate at this point to
11:31:33 take public comments.
11:31:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone from the public wishing to speak at
11:31:37 this time?
11:31:37 >> Charlie Miranda, 2918 West Lake Avenue.
11:31:42 Let me say this.
11:31:43 First of all it's highly unusual that you have a zoning
11:31:45 hearing during the day.
11:31:48 I called the clerk's office or had someone call for me
11:31:50 today.
11:31:51 And the second hearing is set also during the day.
11:31:54 Not to say there would be 100 people or one people or no one
11:31:57 here, about you the protocol of this city has always been
11:32:00 that council hears these types of hearings, zoning hearings,
11:32:04 at night.
11:32:04 Not during the day.
11:32:06 And certainly not the second hearing during the day.
11:32:08 Let me say this.
11:32:09 I'm not privy to everything that the city attorney spoke to,
11:32:13 Ms. Mandell, when she talks about 70 feet of the
11:32:16 right-of-way from the Lake Avenue right-of-way.
11:32:17 That is really nothing.
11:32:20 You know why?
11:32:21 If you have a 20-foot setback you can't touch any way so
11:32:23 that's 50 feet.
11:32:24 However, you go back and look at the original plat, that
11:32:27 whole block from Gomez to MacDill, from San Isabel to
11:32:33 Lake, way back in the 80s there was a line drawn in the
11:32:37 center of the line that you couldn't put anything between
11:32:40 that portion south to Lake Avenue.
11:32:43 However, we gave up that right from what I hear today.
11:32:47 I was here when some of those things happened, not on the
11:32:50 council but on Lake Avenue.
11:32:52 Let me say this.
11:32:53 This hospital has done more damage to the Hispanic
11:32:56 neighborhood than anything I can say.
11:32:58 There were houses removed, seven, eight of them vanished,
11:33:02 disappeared because of greed.
11:33:04 They have land now on the adjacent property just north of
11:33:08 St. Joseph's hospital.
11:33:10 I think it's 4600, 4700 address on Habana.
11:33:14 They don't use it.
11:33:15 They could have bought all the property that the Buccaneers
11:33:17 bought, but they didn't want to.
11:33:19 However, they built now on the southeast corner of Himes and
11:33:27 Tampa Bay Boulevard, St. Joseph's hospital entrance for
11:33:33 health care for those who needed it at that appropriate
11:33:35 time.
11:33:36 So we are talking about a hospital that's got greed.
11:33:38 If that hospital was Tampa General Hospital, Tampa General,
11:33:43 no one would be here because they wouldn't have the guts to
11:33:45 put anything at St. Joseph's.
11:33:47 But I'm getting sick and tired of being pushed around, the
11:33:51 whole neighborhood is, not I, I'm speaking for them because
11:33:55 I'm the only voice they have, what's going on?
11:33:57 So what I am saying is being vigil of the facts.
11:34:00 This is not a hospital that wants to do good.
11:34:02 They have got great people working there.
11:34:04 They have got great service.
11:34:05 But they are animals.
11:34:07 Then don't give a damn about nobody but themselves.
11:34:10 It's all about the bottom line and money.
11:34:12 And let's me say this.
11:34:13 This is not the end of something.
11:34:15 I don't have my attorney here.
11:34:17 But there will be consideration for a lawsuit later on in
11:34:20 life.
11:34:21 And it's a shame to have say that I have got to stand here
11:34:24 and talk the way I have to talk, because that's the only way
11:34:27 I can say it.
11:34:28 They are animals, and they don't care about nothing.
11:34:31 They have been after this peace of property since 1978 in
11:34:35 one form or another.
11:34:37 Thank you very much.
11:34:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
11:34:39 Anyone else wish to speak on item number 55?
11:34:42 >> Good morning.
11:34:45 My name is Frank Miranda.
11:34:46 I represent the residents of Lake Avenue.
11:34:49 My office address is 703 West Swann Avenue.
11:34:53 I presented to council that no one has talked about and
11:34:57 sitting up there the fact that this council is getting half
11:34:59 truths.
11:35:03 Why wasn't anyone told when Mrs. Mandell was up here that we
11:35:06 filed an appeal?
11:35:08 The residents have filed an appeal in this matter because we
11:35:11 were denied the right to intervene in this case.
11:35:17 That's a decision and brief from St. Joseph's due in six
11:35:20 days.
11:35:21 No one has told you that.
11:35:22 Six days from now, 90 days thereafter, and rule whether or
11:35:27 not we are in.
11:35:28 This has been a continual path in the Hispanic community,
11:35:32 isolated, to prevent them from participating.
11:35:37 They were not allowed to participate in the first hearing
11:35:39 with a statutory measure. You rejected it.
11:35:42 Yet if I heard correctly Ms. Mandell said you have been
11:35:45 presented with the same exact settlement.
11:35:47 It's the third time.
11:35:48 What has changed?
11:35:49 What has changed?
11:35:51 Other than the fact that they have undergone an intensive
11:35:55 lobbying effort behind everyone's back, meaning the
11:35:58 citizens.
11:35:58 Nothing has changed factually.
11:36:00 It's the exact same thing you denied three times.
11:36:02 Why are we here?
11:36:04 You know why we are here?
11:36:05 Because in 30 days of the judge issuing an order saying we
11:36:10 couldn't intervene in the case, we promptly filed a motion
11:36:13 for appeal.
11:36:14 I would like to substantiate the record by putting our
11:36:17 notice of appeal in the court file.
11:36:20 Here it is.
11:36:20 (Off microphone)
11:36:22 And make council make a decision on this before the court
11:36:30 can intervene.
11:36:33 To simply ignore the fact that this is still part of the
11:36:36 litigation would be wrong.
11:36:37 If the city doesn't want to fight, clearly they are not
11:36:40 instructing their attorney to do anything to defend the
11:36:42 case.
11:36:43 Even though contrary to what is still in court, adamantly
11:36:46 did a hell of a job defending the city's position.
11:36:49 Now all of a sudden you are supposed to cower and say, you
11:36:52 know what, three times before we were wrong? You weren't
11:36:55 wrong.
11:36:56 You weren't wrong.
11:36:57 I showed up at mediation four times.
11:37:00 I wasn't allowed to be there.
11:37:04 Who asked me to leave?
11:37:05 St. Joseph's hospital.
11:37:06 And I left.
11:37:07 But there was a presentation to be made by Mr. Bolus.
11:37:10 Were you presented with that presentation as to rights the
11:37:13 city had and how good the case was?
11:37:15 I doubt you were.
11:37:17 You are not being presented with the facts.
11:37:21 Ask serious questions. We don't live in Chicago.
11:37:23 We don't live in Detroit.
11:37:25 This is Tampa.
11:37:28 I beg you to make inquiry.
11:37:31 I beg you to follow the oath you took when you took office
11:37:34 to make specific inquiry as to why the city has bent over
11:37:38 and withdraw from the defenses.
11:37:40 Why would you settle it? What did you get back in return?
11:37:46 What did the citizens gets back in return?
11:37:49 Nothing.
11:37:49 (Bell sounds).
11:37:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
11:37:51 Anyone else wish to speak on item number 55?
11:37:54 Anyone else from the public wish to are speak on item number
11:37:56 55?
11:38:04 >>JULIA MANDELL: City attorney.
11:38:06 The only comment I did want to make is the procedural
11:38:09 posture of the litigation.
11:38:10 I will just indicate for the purposes of the record that
11:38:13 there was nothing within the order that had come out and I
11:38:16 believe was specifically stated within the order that we
11:38:19 could move forward in case of a settlement.
11:38:22 I can get into a much more legalistic conversation about
11:38:26 where we are procedurally in terms of the request for
11:38:29 intervention.
11:38:29 I will tell you that no matter what, this does not alleviate
11:38:33 any opportunity that any person might have to bring a
11:38:35 challenge later on down the line.
11:38:38 If you do move forward with this today, in addition I can
11:38:42 always have additional conversations between first and
11:38:45 second reading but my preference is not to have them on the
11:38:47 record.
11:38:48 And I'm also available for any additional questions that you
11:38:50 might have.
11:38:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Suarez.
11:38:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me hear you correctly now.
11:38:56 The challenge that Mr. Miranda, Jr., made concerning their
11:39:04 appeal has nothing to do with this.
11:39:07 They still have that right whatever.
11:39:09 And I am not sure what court this is in front of now, that
11:39:13 appeal.
11:39:14 >> The district court of appeals, from what I understand.
11:39:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Second DCA.
11:39:19 So there's a chance that they will become a party to this
11:39:22 particular case regardless of whether or not we go forward.
11:39:27 >>JULIA MANDELL: I'll say it this way. It is my opinion
11:39:32 not withstanding your actions here today or in two weeks,
11:39:35 they retain whatever rights they continue to retain.
11:39:38 I will also say that we did have discussions as per we are
11:39:41 allowed to have in Florida statutes in a closed session
11:39:44 under which we did have an opportunity to discuss all of the
11:39:49 issues relating to the merits of the case, and I would
11:39:52 prefer not to get into those on the record.
11:39:55 At some point in time if we do settle the case those will
11:40:00 ultimately become public.
11:40:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The procedure that we are working under now
11:40:04 is a mediated settlement, not a court case, which if a
11:40:10 mediated settlement is not agreed to today will probably end
11:40:12 up in a court somewhere.
11:40:14 Is that correct?
11:40:14 >>JULIA MANDELL: We are not operating --
11:40:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'm not saying that it will. I'm saying
11:40:17 that's the next procedure if someone wanted to take it to
11:40:21 court meaning if it's denied, the applicant could go back to
11:40:24 court in order to make a case saying that we did not follow
11:40:30 our rules concerning our zoning and land use, correct?
11:40:35 >>JULIA MANDELL: In the event that City Council chooses not
11:40:38 to move forward to approve the rezoning ordinance in front
11:40:41 of you today, or again in two weeks, then we go back and
11:40:45 visit the same procedural posture we were with the
11:40:49 litigation that continues to be pending. It is a
11:40:50 several-count complaint. There are again claims included in
11:40:56 those complaints, and we did have that discussion as part of
11:40:59 our closed session as to those issues.
11:41:03 Again, I want to be cognizant of the idea of not having
11:41:07 those conversations right now except to much say that if we
11:41:10 don't go ahead, we will end up in the same procedural
11:41:13 posture we were before, litigating this matter.
11:41:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any other questions from council?
11:41:21 All right.
11:41:25 Yes, sir?
11:41:26 >> Mr. Chairman, members of council, my name is Scott
11:41:30 McLaren.
11:41:31 I have been sworn.
11:41:32 I am here on behalf of St. Joe's. Just to clear up --
11:41:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Wait a minute.
11:41:37 Let me ask you when I raised the question for the petitioner
11:41:41 why didn't you step forward?
11:41:43 >> I'm sorry, sir?
11:41:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: When I raised the question --
11:41:50 >>JULIA MANDELL: It might have been my fault because I
11:41:53 thought he was not planning to talk, so I got up, so that
11:41:57 may have been my fault.
11:41:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, just to be clear, this is
11:42:01 being brought back by the city attorney for council's
11:42:04 consideration.
11:42:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: I understand that.
11:42:06 All right.
11:42:07 Go ahead.
11:42:07 >> Mr. Chairman, My apologies for any oversight on my part.
11:42:11 I really did not intend on speaking today.
11:42:14 But I did want to just state just to clear up what I
11:42:18 perceived to be some inaccuracies in terms of the procedural
11:42:22 posture of the underlaying case.
11:42:25 And just to point out some additional facts.
11:42:31 The settlement in this case, the rezoning application,
11:42:41 emanated from a procedure that actually began in 2012, the
11:42:46 land use and environmental dispute resolution procedure, and
11:42:49 the neighbors were invited to and did participate in that
11:42:53 process, for that particular rezoning site plan was created.
11:42:59 So I wanted to point that out that they did have an
11:43:02 opportunity, and in fact did participate in that process.
11:43:08 The reason for Mr. Miranda's appeal on behalf of his
11:43:13 clients -- I'm speaking of Frank Miranda -- he contends that
11:43:21 the court denies his intervention motion.
11:43:23 But actually what happened at the hearing on that date was
11:43:28 that Mr. Miranda showed up at a hearing which was not where
11:43:32 he did not ever set his motion to intervene appropriately
11:43:35 for hearing.
11:43:36 And at the conclusion of the hearing, the judge did not deny
11:43:40 his motion to intervene.
11:43:42 What the judge said was at this stage, and I quote, until
11:43:46 further hearing I am not going to enter it -- in other
11:43:50 words, his motion to intervene -- I'll just hold it in
11:43:54 abeyance until an appropriate time where the motion could be
11:43:57 heard.
11:43:57 So Mr. Miranda has not informed you that in fact it was his
11:44:04 action in not setting timely his motion to intervene for
11:44:08 hearing that resulted in the order not being granted.
11:44:12 Mr. Miranda has filed an appeal.
11:44:16 What he did not appeal, and what I would like to submit to
11:44:21 the council, is a ruling by the judge in the case.
11:44:32 And judge Huey ruled, after consideration, at a hearing
11:44:36 where Mr. Miranda attended, he ruled that the appeal has
11:44:41 absolutely no effect on the underlying case or the potential
11:44:45 for settlement between St. Joe's and the city.
11:44:51 If you read the order, it says that appeal has absolutely no
11:44:54 effect on the ability of the parties to settle the case.
11:44:58 Mr. Miranda never appealed that ruling.
11:45:01 So I thought that was appropriate.
11:45:03 And as Ms. Mandell pointed out, Mr. Chairman and council,
11:45:08 the neighbors have all the rights they have in any rezoning.
11:45:11 If they disagree and believe your ruling today is
11:45:14 inappropriate, they have rights in the courts to appeal that
11:45:17 rule.
11:45:18 So I just wanted to try to set the record completely
11:45:21 straight and give council a few more facts.
11:45:24 Thank you very much for your time.
11:45:25 (Bell sounds).
11:45:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, anyone else in the public wish
11:45:30 to speak on item number 55?
11:45:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move to close.
11:45:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Got a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
11:45:37 Second by Mr. Cohen.
11:45:38 All in favor of the motion say aye.
11:45:40 Opposed?
11:45:42 All right.
11:45:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move an ordinance being presented for
11:45:51 first reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning property
11:45:53 in the general vicinity of 3030 west Dr. Martin Luther King
11:45:57 Jr. Boulevard, 4102, 4110 and 4220 north Gomez Avenue, 2902
11:46:03 through 2908 and 2905 through 2907 west Isabel street, 2905
11:46:12 West Lake Avenue, and 4201 through 4215 north MacDill
11:46:17 Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly
11:46:19 described from section 1 from zoning district classification
11:46:22 RS-50 residential single-family, RO-1, residential office,
11:46:26 and PD, planned development, hospital, medical office,
11:46:29 parking, to PD, planned development, hospital, medical
11:46:33 office, surface parking, providing an effective date.
11:46:36 And including the revision sheet as provided by staff.
11:46:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
11:46:41 Do I have a second?
11:46:42 >> Second.
11:46:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
11:46:46 Second by Mr. Cohen.
11:46:48 All those in favor of the motion say aye.
11:46:51 Opposed?
11:46:51 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin and Reddick voting
11:46:56 no, and Miranda abstaining.
11:46:58 >> For the purposes of the record, I want to show that that
11:47:02 motion includes the revision sheet which I believe it does.
11:47:05 I wanted to make sure that it does.
11:47:07 Thank you.
11:47:07 >> It does.
11:47:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
11:47:10 When is second reading?
11:47:11 >>THE CLERK: When you schedule reading normally, it would
11:47:14 be on February 4th at 9:30 a.m.
11:47:20 >> Move to schedule second reading for February 4th at
11:47:23 9:30 a.m.
11:47:24 >> We have a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
11:47:26 Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
11:47:28 All in favor of the motion say aye.
11:47:30 >> can I request a nighttime hearing based upon that
11:47:36 neighborhood is a working class neighborhood?
11:47:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: He's requesting a nighttime meeting.
11:47:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: The answer is, council, that it is
11:47:54 council's discretion as to whether it wishes to do so.
11:47:56 I would ask that we have the opportunity to -- as this is
11:48:01 also involved in litigation, that we consult with the city
11:48:06 attorney to make sure if there's any issue involved with
11:48:09 that.
11:48:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mrs. Mandell?
11:48:10 >>JULIA MANDELL: Can you tell me what the date of the
11:48:19 nighttime hearing is in February?
11:48:21 >> February 11th.
11:48:23 >>JULIA MANDELL: We need to have this concluded by February
11:48:26 15th.
11:48:26 So if there is room on your agenda to do that, can I ask
11:48:29 that be the first item, please.
11:48:31 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilman Montelione's recommendation to
11:48:41 make it on the first item at 6 p.m. on Thursday evening,
11:48:46 February 11th.
11:48:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: At 6 p.m.
11:48:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion from Mrs. Montelione,
11:48:54 amended by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr. Suarez, to have the
11:48:59 second hearing on February 11 at 6:00 p.m.
11:49:02 All those in favor of the motion say aye.
11:49:04 Opposed?
11:49:05 Okay.
11:49:05 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda abstaining.
11:49:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: Item number 56.
11:49:11 >> Jerrod Simpson, the new assistant city attorney assigned
11:49:22 to the Architectural Review Commission.
11:49:24 We are here today.
11:49:25 We have an applicant that has asked the council to review a
11:49:29 certificate of appropriateness.
11:49:32 The case number for the record is ARC 15-238.
11:49:38 In that case, the ARC heard the applicant on September
11:49:42 16th, 2015.
11:49:45 They granted a couple of variances along with a certificate
11:49:49 of appropriateness.
11:49:50 But when they did that, they issued a couple of conditions
11:49:55 that they were told to work with staff and implement those
11:49:57 conditions.
11:49:59 The applicant has requested a review before you today to
11:50:06 rehear that certificate of appropriateness.
11:50:07 The scope of this review is today he November open which
11:50:10 means that this council does not need to defer to the
11:50:15 decisions or findings of fact of the architectural review
11:50:18 commission.
11:50:18 However, the council is limited to considering the same site
11:50:24 plan that was presented to the review commission on that
11:50:28 date for any substantial changes that might have been made
11:50:31 between today and that time.
11:50:35 We would suggest that the applicant issue a new application
11:50:38 and go before the ARC again.
11:50:41 So at this time I will turn it over to the staff to give you
11:50:44 their staff report so they can tell you what their
11:50:47 recommendations are with this.
11:50:48 >> Good morning, Council. I'm Elaine Lund, Historic
11:50:57 Preservation staff.
11:50:59 This morning I am going to show you a few photographs to get
11:51:02 you familiar with the site and discuss the application a
11:51:05 little bit here.
11:51:05 This was heard before the ARC on September 15, 2015, and
11:51:17 there were actually two items on the agenda that night.
11:51:22 The property is at 806 east Hillsborough Avenue.
11:51:24 You can see where it is on the north side of Hillsborough
11:51:27 Avenue and the east side of Miami Avenue right where the on
11:51:30 ramp 275 is.
11:51:32 So the outline of the property in question is shown in
11:51:36 green.
11:51:36 And the outline of the historic district is in red.
11:51:40 Those are just the local historic districts.
11:51:52 The entire Seminole Heights historic district.
11:51:58 This area in white is the interstate north and south.
11:52:07 This is east and west.
11:52:20 As you flow, historically in the historic district as well
11:52:25 as the Seminole Heights historic district.
11:52:26 The districts all have a set of design guidelines.
11:52:30 And those are set in place for the ARC to evaluate the work
11:52:35 in the district.
11:52:37 The districts receive this additional layer review and are
11:52:41 held to standard beyond what is required normally by code
11:52:44 and the rest of the city in order to preserve the integrity
11:52:46 of the district and to maintain their historic character.
11:52:50 In this photo here, we are looking north toward the property
11:52:55 in question.
11:52:56 So one of the applications that we heard that night at the
11:53:02 hearing, this was a 1967 commercial structure, I believe
11:53:10 originally a filling station.
11:53:16 This is used now as a restaurant.
11:53:21 And the ARC was very receptive to the renovation work at the
11:53:24 site.
11:53:24 The applicant worked very closely with staff to produce a
11:53:32 project that the ARC found to be compatible with the
11:53:35 historic district and they approved the design renovation.
11:53:46 Giving you a look to the east along Hillsborough Avenue
11:53:48 here.
11:53:48 The other application that was heard that night was the
11:53:52 free-standing sign, and in the application that's before you
11:53:55 today, signs are permitted by code to receive historic
11:54:05 review approval except there are certain circumstances when
11:54:06 they would have to go before the actual board.
11:54:08 In this case, this application had two variance requests,
11:54:11 one for height and one for sign area.
11:54:13 And as the applicant sought to have a portion of the sign
11:54:16 display, the L.E.D.
11:54:22 So the existing sign that was approved at this location was
11:54:28 approved in 1996, I believe, and at that time it was
11:54:34 approved with a setback area.
11:54:40 The L.E.D. sign that was proposed is not normally granted by
11:54:50 the ARC or Barrio Latino commission or by the historic
11:54:55 preservation staff, which is why he didn't take it before
11:55:02 the ARC for their review.
11:55:05 L.E.D. signs, changeable electronic signs have been found to
11:55:11 be appropriate for use in historic district.
11:55:13 The LEDs are generally brighter, more vivid, more
11:55:18 prominent.
11:55:23 While the ARC has clearly recognized the uniqueness of this
11:55:27 site, if you grant the variances that would allow the
11:55:42 hardship statement, the concern is that by allowing the
11:55:47 visual intrusions into the historic district of the L.E.D.
11:55:51 display that will lead to another version of the visual and
11:55:56 historic character.
11:55:59 And if approved this L.E.D. display would be referenced by
11:56:04 other applicants when they apply for signs and not only the
11:56:09 Seminole Heights historic districts being but our his doctor
11:56:13 districts in the other parts of the city as well which do
11:56:15 include approximate portions of Howard Avenue and 7th
11:56:20 Avenue through Ybor City.
11:56:21 And they are an example of displays propped by the
11:56:35 applicant.
11:56:36 So I'm available if you have any questions.
11:56:38 Thank you.
11:56:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
11:56:41 >>HARRY COHEN: Let me make a motion for an additional 30
11:56:48 minutes.
11:56:48 >> We have a motion from Mr. Cohen.
11:56:50 Seconded by Mr. Maniscalco.
11:56:52 All in favor of the motion say aye.
11:56:54 Opposed?
11:56:54 All right.
11:56:55 Any questions for the staff?
11:56:58 All right.
11:56:58 >> Todd Pressman, 334 East Lake Road, 102, Palm Harbor,
11:57:08 Florida.
11:57:08 I have a Power Point for you.
11:57:11 I am going to skip through this because as your staff has
11:57:13 presented to you, the ARC approved just about everything.
11:57:18 This is going to be a beautiful new site.
11:57:20 I am not going to go into the other variances, but just
11:57:24 focus on the one issue remaining which is the use of an
11:57:27 electric message center.
11:57:28 But let me make one thing very clear which your staff did
11:57:31 not.
11:57:31 What we are proposing under allowed by code in any other
11:57:37 parts of the city outside the historic districts.
11:57:39 So we are not asking for anything more than what you saw in
11:57:42 a regular everyday zoning district.
11:57:45 So this is the site currently.
11:57:47 It's a pretty bad site.
11:57:50 It's downtrodden.
11:57:51 It's ugly.
11:57:52 It's falling apart.
11:57:54 And in the rear, you have sleeping quarters.
11:57:59 They have been trying to keep the property up to speed, but
11:58:01 it's just an everyday event that things are getting torn
11:58:05 down, doors are getting open, whatever.
11:58:07 So they made a concerted effort to really improver the site.
11:58:10 There's no landscaping.
11:58:13 There's no buffers.
11:58:14 No retention.
11:58:15 Unanimous wall signage is extreme.
11:58:18 Used by the homeless as a high impact user.
11:58:21 So this is what's proposed.
11:58:26 It will be a beautiful refurbishing and redevelopment of the
11:58:28 site.
11:58:29 This is a site plan that your staff showed you.
11:58:31 This is from the Zeko's site.
11:58:39 That's the sign that's proposed.
11:58:40 The only thing your staff didn't tell you which I want to
11:58:42 make you aware is what we are proposing is 7 feet shorter,
11:58:47 one third square footage, than what was out it at the site
11:58:49 and what was allowed and approved at the site.
11:58:51 So this is a big reduction in terms of visibility and a huge
11:58:55 improvement on the site.
11:58:56 The terrace will match the building and shall very nice.
11:59:00 So the board approved.
11:59:04 With regard to hardships I want to make you aware of is that
11:59:07 the site located, a lot of different vehicular activity.
11:59:12 It is located right at -- and I'm sure if you have been
11:59:16 there, it's a very unusual ramp on 275 located right next to
11:59:19 the site.
11:59:20 It's a tough access, a major arterial.
11:59:23 We have the elevates or roadway and I-275.
11:59:26 As you will see itself also clips the right-of-way of the
11:59:32 site.
11:59:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: While you are on the topic of 275 and
11:59:35 that off and on-ramp, Mr. Pressman, have you looked at the
11:59:40 plans for the potential TBX project, the widening and
11:59:47 changes in the traffic patterns because of the toll lanes
11:59:50 that are expected to be put on these?
11:59:54 Because I know -- I don't have them in front of me but I
11:59:58 know I have a map that shows the properties that are going
12:00:01 to be affected by that widening.
12:00:04 And I'm not sure.
12:00:06 I am wondering if you do know.
12:00:08 >> I looked at those specific plans for whatever -- I
12:00:13 haven't looked at those.
12:00:15 No, I have not.
12:00:16 But that's one factor of the arterial and OMP ramp and you
12:00:20 can see the property was clipped in the front as well.
12:00:22 You can see the right-of-way which is also difficult in
12:00:25 terms of the property.
12:00:25 The critical thing I wants -- and this would be of course
12:00:29 the fly-over, but the critical fact I want to make the board
12:00:32 aware what your staff showed you is that the site really no
12:00:36 longer is in the historic district.
12:00:38 It's not.
12:00:40 It's the only business that is caught by just a little
12:00:43 corner.
12:00:44 Soap your staff shows you, and you see here, this part of
12:00:48 the historic district was marked before I-275 came through.
12:00:52 So this area that I have shown on the arrow is part of
12:00:57 Seminole Heights district.
12:00:58 So we are the only business at that corner in regard to the
12:01:01 Seminole Heights district.
12:01:02 We are in.
12:01:03 That's it.
12:01:04 There's no other businesses on that part of I-275 that get
12:01:08 picked up and have to comply with the restrictive codes.
12:01:14 So if you look at the site, you see I have the yellow here.
12:01:17 That is the border of the historic district coming through.
12:01:20 Again we are the only business that has to comply with that.
12:01:23 I will tell you, there is a beauty or hair business behind
12:01:28 us.
12:01:28 They were in support of the request.
12:01:30 We heard from no one in opposition.
12:01:32 We are the only ones outs there.
12:01:33 We have to compete with everybody else who has large signs,
12:01:38 those signs are permissible, and that is really an extreme
12:01:42 sing later, extreme uniqueness that we are proposing.
12:01:46 The model we are proposing is not so small.
12:01:48 Again the level we are asking for is -- any of the
12:01:54 businesses surrounding us or any one in the city located
12:01:58 outside the historic district.
12:02:00 So for the city this is obviously a vast improvement in
12:02:02 site, dig significant reduction in the sign that's out
12:02:05 there.
12:02:05 It is an improvement.
12:02:06 We are seeking additional signs to overcome these many
12:02:09 factors.
12:02:13 The only properties that's severely effected and badly held
12:02:17 against all the other competition in the area.
12:02:19 With that of we do feel it is a very unique site and we ask
12:02:22 your consideration.
12:02:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone in the public wish to speak on item
12:02:28 56?
12:02:31 >> Assistant city attorney Jerrod Simpson.
12:02:33 I want to the clarify for the record that there is a
12:02:35 separate process to be rezoned out of the historic district.
12:02:41 The scope of the review today is just whether or not a
12:02:45 certificate of appropriateness, and what the applicant has
12:02:47 presented complies with the design standards within the
12:02:51 historic district.
12:02:53 That it's currently in.
12:02:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
12:02:58 Anyone wish to speak on item number 56?
12:03:00 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move to close.
12:03:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: Seconded by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:03:06 All in favor of the motion say aye.
12:03:07 Opposed?
12:03:07 What's the pleasure of council?
12:03:09 >> [Off microphone.]
12:03:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If you could, just say pursuant to section
12:03:27 27-114 as to whether the variance criteria has been met by
12:03:33 the applicant or not.
12:03:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: [Off microphone.] that section that Mr.
12:03:41 Shelby referenced --
12:03:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'm sorry?
12:03:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: [Off microphone.]
12:03:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is that appropriate?
12:03:58 >> Assistant city attorney Jerrod Simpson.
12:04:06 If that's the council's pleasure to approve, deny or approve
12:04:09 with conditions, just to get it incorporated.
12:04:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: (off microphone) so I move that we
12:04:19 approve the request to issue a certificate of
12:04:26 appropriateness to the applicant based on the conditions at
12:04:33 this site that are unique to this site, and I submits that
12:04:38 for approval.
12:04:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Second.
12:04:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: Got a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
12:04:43 Seconded by Mrs. Capin.
12:04:45 Any discussion on the motion?
12:04:47 All those in favor of the motion say aye.
12:04:49 Opposed?
12:04:49 >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman and council.
12:04:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: We go to item number 57.
12:04:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do we have time?
12:05:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We did.
12:05:07 20 minutes.
12:05:10 >>GLORIA MOREDA: I'm here on SU-I-15-46, a special use 1,
12:05:19 congregate living facility, small group care facility,
12:05:24 proposed at 4009 north Habana Avenue.
12:05:28 I wanted to note that the clerk's agenda referenced it as
12:05:33 SU-I-15-47.
12:05:36 But it is 46.
12:05:39 The proposal is for a care facility.
12:05:47 The use criteria, it is zoned RS 50 which makes it a special
12:05:52 use 1.
12:05:53 The criteria requires assistive living facility leave 1200
12:05:59 feet from another such use.
12:06:01 There are two facilities within that distance.
12:06:04 One located 4011 north Habana Avenue which is approximately
12:06:09 105 feet, and then there's also one at 2918 west Tampa Bay
12:06:16 Boulevard, which is 565 feet away.
12:06:24 The property is currently a single-family house.
12:06:27 They are proposing to do an addition to have the square
12:06:31 footage as 4,518 square feet.
12:06:35 They do show that they comply with the required setbacks for
12:06:39 the zoning district.
12:06:41 They are going to be licensed by the state.
12:06:43 They are asking also for a waiver of 18 persons -- excuse
12:06:49 me, 16 persons in the facility.
12:06:52 The code limits the RS-50 to 8 individuals plus the
12:06:59 caregiver.
12:07:00 So it is really those two waivers that they are seeking
12:07:03 today.
12:07:03 The number of residents and the distance separation.
12:07:09 I have photographs that show the existing property.
12:07:18 And the aerial that shows --
12:07:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm sorry, Ms. Moreda, the staff report
12:07:24 that you gave us, at least I don't see because you just
12:07:29 handed it to us just now, the waivers.
12:07:34 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Well, I listed it are in the description,
12:07:36 really.
12:07:37 Under A, it says such use shall be within 1200 feet.
12:07:43 And I have described where the facilities are.
12:07:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: All right.
12:07:57 I'm looking for the number -- oh, there it is.
12:07:59 I see it.
12:08:01 >>GLORIA MOREDA: The requirement, they are needing an
12:08:03 exception to, A, and they are needing an exception to D.
12:08:07 They are indicating that they will comply with all other
12:08:10 requirements.
12:08:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That wasn't Clare when I first read it.
12:08:14 Thank you so much.
12:08:16 >>GLORIA MOREDA: The plots is located on Habana Avenue just
12:08:19 north of Tampa Bay Boulevard.
12:08:22 The applicant is here if you have any questions.
12:08:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from council of staff?
12:08:29 All right.
12:08:30 Applicant.
12:08:38 Ment.
12:08:38 >> My name is Anu Chapalamagu, North Habana.
12:08:52 The regulations are for a special use for congregative
12:08:56 living facility.
12:08:57 We are not supposed to establish within 1200 feet to any
12:09:03 other facility.
12:09:04 One of them is properties right next to it which, and I
12:09:13 lived in looked at that as an opportunities.
12:09:18 We never had any problems, you know.
12:09:20 Most of our residents, they are neighbors, which they live
12:09:25 even back right behind us.
12:09:27 Most of our people, our residents are 80s, 90s, late
12:09:35 90s.
12:09:37 And the second that they are talking about, I'm not sure if
12:09:42 it was existing until we picked up the application but I
12:09:45 found outs they are more like a family care home licensed
12:09:48 for five people.
12:09:48 But the Habana is growing a lot.
12:09:59 I heard your comments and everything.
12:10:02 It's becoming more medical offices, hospital.
12:10:10 The need is more coming, like because of the neighbors, you
12:10:13 know.
12:10:14 I'm sorry, let me repeat that again.
12:10:18 Because there's a lot of medical facilities because of the
12:10:23 hospital, we get a lot of referrals for that location.
12:10:28 I couldn't take anymore because I don't have any place.
12:10:34 I don't know if it makes any sense or not.
12:10:36 So I really appreciate it.
12:10:41 Have a special use for 16 beds for that location I am
12:10:44 applying for.
12:10:44 And if you have any questions, just ask me.
12:10:50 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you, ma'am.
12:10:52 Let me ask you a question.
12:10:54 The thing that I see as a concern in having basically double
12:11:00 what's allowed, going from 8 to 16 beds, in what appears to
12:11:04 be a single-family residence, can you explain to us or tell
12:11:10 us why you need this enormous bump-up in capacity?
12:11:19 Because that's my only concern about your application.
12:11:23 >> I understand what you are asking me, why can't you put an
12:11:29 application for 8, why can't you go for 16?
12:11:34 >>HARRY COHEN: And how are you going to make 16 work?
12:11:37 There's a reason that we have the limitations that we do,
12:11:39 given the size of the property.
12:11:44 I mean, you are asking to double the number.
12:11:46 So I think we need to know why.
12:11:49 >> Because of the location.
12:11:53 I don't want so many -- I don't want to open another ALF.
12:12:01 Most of the people are like nursing home care patients.
12:12:04 So if I am doing one place, and move to another one, it
12:12:09 makes it easy for me all in one location.
12:12:11 And it's not -- if I have a location, place for the room.
12:12:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: You are saying that you have the capacity
12:12:34 to go from 8 to 16?
12:12:38 >> Yes.
12:12:39 From a room rate, yes.
12:12:41 >>HARRY COHEN: From zero to 16.
12:12:44 >> Yes, because it's going to be new construction.
12:12:47 We are going to build to accommodate 16.
12:12:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
12:12:58 Like my colleague that spoke, I know the neighborhood pretty
12:13:00 good.
12:13:01 In fact just across the street catty-corner was a house torn
12:13:05 down to make a property contrary to what the petitioner
12:13:07 said, Habana cannot take any more traffic.
12:13:10 >> I'm sorry?
12:13:14 >> Habana is a two lane road.
12:13:16 You have lane heading north and one heading south and one
12:13:20 side is completely a ditch all the way across.
12:13:26 Administration -- let me finish.
12:13:28 We did one side, and we put sewers in lake we did
12:13:31 MacDill sometime back.
12:13:33 And I know that these individuals that go into these homes
12:13:36 are needed.
12:13:37 They are very needed areas.
12:13:38 But to say that you are close to a hospital that refers you,
12:13:42 they refer to everybody.
12:13:44 And you have already got three in the neighborhood.
12:13:46 And that's fine.
12:13:51 I likely voted on three of them to put them there.
12:13:54 But to go from 8 to 16, I start to question then what are we
12:14:00 doing in that neighborhood?
12:14:02 And I know you have close to the restaurant, I know the area
12:14:08 well, I know where you are at.
12:14:09 >> Yeah.
12:14:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: But I don't think I can support 16 of
12:14:17 them.
12:14:17 That's just me.
12:14:18 >> Okay.
12:14:19 >>: Fully other comments by council?
12:14:21 Mrs. Montelione?
12:14:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
12:14:24 Since traffic capacity on the road came up, in your
12:14:29 experience, since you have been operating for a while -- and
12:14:31 you are doing great, by the way.
12:14:33 Don't be too nervous.
12:14:34 >> Thank you.
12:14:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Do your residents have a lot of
12:14:39 visitors?
12:14:42 >> Very few but it's because, I believe -- unless the only
12:14:53 reason we get some kind of problem is we have a lot of
12:14:56 nurses show up at one time, you know.
12:14:58 So that's the only reason.
12:15:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: It was more not the parking but how much
12:15:07 more traffic is going to be generated, how many more cars on
12:15:11 the road.
12:15:11 I know sadly enough when I was there are to visit my mother
12:15:14 when she was in an assistive living facility, there weren't
12:15:17 a lot of visitors to the elderly relatives.
12:15:22 It's very sad.
12:15:23 >> They do it on a regular basis but we never see like a lot
12:15:27 of families coming in at one time.
12:15:29 And most of them would be after hours.
12:15:34 We never had any problems for any neighbors.
12:15:40 We haven't seen a problem.
12:15:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
12:15:42 And it looks like you are expanding the house to a little
12:15:45 over 4500 square feet?
12:15:49 >> Yes.
12:15:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's pretty large.
12:15:54 I mean, doubling is a lot from 8 to 16.
12:15:57 But at 4500 square feet, I'm sure you can accommodate 16
12:16:01 people.
12:16:01 >> I would have kept the existing building but it's pretty
12:16:07 much one of the buildings that's there from 1960.
12:16:10 I believe it's up and down.
12:16:13 So we had to rebuild it, you know.
12:16:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Like on the application from the site
12:16:18 plan that there was an addition, not that the entire
12:16:22 building was going to be rebuilt.
12:16:23 >> Most of it maybe.
12:16:26 We had to remodel it.
12:16:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
12:16:35 All right, thank you.
12:16:36 >> Like he said, a lot of even two blocks from there, most
12:16:40 of it, even the house next to it is a restaurant, medical
12:16:49 office, lawyer offices.
12:16:54 Then from Tampa Bay, it's a medical facility.
12:16:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Understood.
12:16:59 Thank you.
12:17:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
12:17:01 Any other questions?
12:17:03 All right.
12:17:04 Anyone in the audience wish to speak on item number 57?
12:17:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move to close.
12:17:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion from Mr. Miranda.
12:17:11 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:17:12 All in favor say aye.
12:17:13 Opposed?
12:17:16 Pleasure of council?
12:17:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I move to uphold the hearing decision by the
12:17:23 zoning administrator on file SUI-15-47.
12:17:29 >> Second.
12:17:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: Got a motion from --
12:17:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, the record is they have already
12:17:41 decided.
12:17:41 We are just upholding their decision.
12:17:44 >>REBECCA KERT: Florida statutes does require when you deny
12:17:47 a request for development permit that you state the section
12:17:51 number, so it is a statutory requirement.
12:17:54 >> It is de novo.
12:17:59 >>REBECCA KERT: It is de novo.
12:18:02 Whatever was denied we have to --
12:18:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I understand.
12:18:06 It makes sense because it is de novo.
12:18:09 This is what we do.
12:18:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I will make the motion again to uphold the
12:18:17 decision of the zoning administrator concerning section
12:18:21 27-129 under general standards concerning the waivers that
12:18:29 were asked for concerning the proposed size of the facility
12:18:36 from 8 to 16 people.
12:18:39 In addition, the facility is less than 1200 feet to other
12:18:44 residential -- professional residential facilities.
12:18:47 >> Second.
12:18:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion from Mr. Suarez.
12:18:50 Seconded by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:18:52 Any discussion?
12:19:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay, I'm sorry.
12:19:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion from Mr. Suarez.
12:19:13 Seconded by Ms. Capin.
12:19:15 All in favor of the motion say yay.
12:19:18 Opposed?
12:19:19 All right.
12:19:20 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried Montelione voting no.
12:19:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: We have a motion to withdraw.
12:19:30 Motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:19:31 Second by Ms. Capin.
12:19:33 All in favor of the motion?
12:19:34 All right.
12:19:35 We go to information report.
12:19:36 Mr. Miranda.
12:19:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No information.
12:19:39 Just a little editorial, rocking and rolling Saturday with
12:19:45 the rockers.
12:19:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
12:19:51 Mr. Suarez.
12:19:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Just one item.
12:19:54 This Saturday, January 23rd at Ragan Park, 1200 east
12:19:59 Lake Avenue, we are having an apprenticeship fair.
12:20:04 Anybody who wants to get involved in a trade, construction
12:20:07 job, have been union providing apprenticeship programs in
12:20:11 addition to other contractors who do it on their own.
12:20:14 If you know of anyone, please come up, Saturday morning,
12:20:18 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
12:20:20 If you lake, give us a call at our office at 274-7072 for
12:20:25 more information.
12:20:25 But come on in, and talk to folks and hopefully get not only
12:20:30 a job but a career.
12:20:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: Ms. Capin.
12:20:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I want to just acknowledge my dear, dear
12:20:37 friend Tamas Day passed away and she was a residents for
12:20:45 many years and she never forgot Tampa even after she moved
12:20:50 to.
12:20:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE:
12:20:51 Her name is on the wall of Tampa General Hospital for her
12:20:54 generosity.
12:20:54 The University of Tampa, WEDU and many, many more.
12:20:58 And I will miss Tamas Day popping in and out of my life for
12:21:03 the rest of my life.
12:21:05 Now, on a happier note, I will be at the Rockers, also, and
12:21:09 that is because I was introduced to my husband Juan at that
12:21:15 dance when I was 15 years old.
12:21:20 Now, I want to brag.
12:21:24 The top 50 restaurants of Tampa Bay this morning, the 2016
12:21:28 edition, in there, my sister's son, my dear Jason Ruhe who
12:21:35 opened this restaurant less than a year ago and has gotten
12:21:38 more than a dozen awards, is number 11 out of the top 50
12:21:43 restaurants, Brick and Mortar, and when she mentioned it,
12:21:48 she mentioned that it's her "favorite opening of the year."
12:21:54 And she also said her two beloved dishes are my two beloved
12:21:58 dishes, and I am going to tell you about them because I
12:22:00 think you need to run over there.
12:22:03 It's beef carpaccio, a homemade ravioli that when it's
12:22:09 punctured seeps out leek and goat cheese along with egg
12:22:19 yolk.
12:22:20 Unbelievably delicious.
12:22:23 Goes perfect with beef.
12:22:24 The second one is that their "desserts are among the most
12:22:27 cerebral in town."
12:22:30 The lavender panna cotta, with Marcona almonds and a bit of
12:22:38 thin sliced ham.
12:22:40 Now, she has them under American casual.
12:22:48 Congratulations.
12:22:51 I'm so proud of them.
12:22:54 Here it is.
12:22:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Are when are we going to get some samples?
12:23:02 (Laughter)
12:23:06 Anything else?
12:23:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's it.
12:23:08 Thank you very much for indulging me.
12:23:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: I just have one.
12:23:16 I want to request staff to report back on February 18 under
12:23:23 staff reports a recommendation on how the site on Adamo
12:23:35 Drive, Ybor City CRA district, and I would like you to come
12:23:45 back with study on how we can move forward to Ybor CRA.
12:23:53 That's a motion.
12:23:54 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a motion.
12:23:55 Do I hear a second?
12:23:56 We have a motion from Councilman Reddick, seconded by
12:23:59 Councilman Maniscalco.
12:24:01 All those in favor please indicate by saying yay.
12:24:04 Opposed?
12:24:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Cohen.
12:24:06 >>HARRY COHEN: I have two items, Mr. Chair.
12:24:09 The first is I would like to ask for a commendation on
12:24:11 February 25th at 9:00 a.m. to the lady hawks volleyball
12:24:16 team from Hillsborough County community college who finished
12:24:19 third in the NTAA enable baseball tournament in Caspar,
12:24:26 Wyoming.
12:24:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:24:28 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:24:30 All in favor say aye.
12:24:31 Opposed?
12:24:32 Okay.
12:24:32 >>HARRY COHEN: Second, I would like to ask for a
12:24:35 commendation to the Tampa Jewish federation in honor of
12:24:40 their annual president's dinner which will be held for the
12:24:43 first time in downtown Tampa on January 31st.
12:24:47 And this will be presented at that event.
12:24:52 At the downtown Hilton, Sunday night.
12:24:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Got a motion from Mr. Cohen.
12:24:59 Seconded by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:25:01 All in favor say aye.
12:25:02 Opposed?
12:25:03 Okay.
12:25:05 Mr. Maniscalco.
12:25:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I have nothing today.
12:25:08 Thank you.
12:25:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mrs. Montelione.
12:25:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
12:25:13 I would like to -- and I have to loon at the calendar -- the
12:25:21 county administrator or his designee to come and present to
12:25:24 us the activity that Hillsborough County has been
12:25:27 undertaking in the innovation alliance area and the status
12:25:32 of the memorandum of understanding that at one time was
12:25:35 going to be presented to City Council, but it was withdrawn,
12:25:41 and to my knowledge, I don't know of a memorandum of
12:25:47 understanding that exists, and I think it's important that
12:25:51 we have one.
12:25:57 Looking at the calendar.
12:26:02 I want to put on the calendar.
12:26:04 We'll put it out for March 17th?
12:26:08 March 17th at 9:00 a.m.
12:26:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion from Ms. Montelione.
12:26:13 Second by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:26:16 All in favor ever? Opposed?
12:26:18 Okay.
12:26:23 Are you through?
12:26:24 >>HARRY COHEN: Move to receive and fail.
12:26:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
12:26:28 Second by Mr. Suarez.
12:26:29 All in favor of that motion say aye.
12:26:30 Any other business to come before us?
12:26:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Thank you, council.
12:26:35 House keeping item for your calendar.
12:26:37 At 9 a.m. on the 28th, next week, you have a discussion
12:26:42 regarding the charter review board.
12:26:44 My understanding is that discussion is going to take place
12:26:46 as part of your strategic planning meeting so I ask that
12:26:48 that be removed from your workshop.
12:26:50 >> So moved.
12:26:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:26:53 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:26:55 All in favor same aye.
12:26:56 Opposed?
12:26:57 Anyone in the audience wants to speak before the council at
12:26:59 this time?
12:27:00 Seeing none we stand adjourned.
12:27:01 Thank you.
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