Tampa City Council
Thursday, April 14, 2016
5:01 p.m. Session
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05:03:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I call the Tampa City Council to
05:03:34 order.
05:03:35 Roll call, please.
05:03:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
05:03:39 >> Reddick?
05:03:41 Capin?
05:03:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
05:03:43 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
05:03:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
05:03:46 >> Montelione?
05:03:47 Suarez?
05:03:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
05:03:48 The first item of business is a public hearing, a
05:03:49 quasi-judicial proceeding.
05:03:51 All those who are going to speak, please stand up
05:03:53 and be sworn in.
05:03:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move to open the public
05:03:56 hearing.
05:03:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
05:03:58 I have a motion by Mr. Miranda.
05:03:59 Second by Ms. Capin.
05:04:01 All in favor, please say aye.
05:04:03 [Oath administered]
05:04:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Please proceed.
05:04:13 >> Randy Goers, City Planning and Development
05:04:15 Department.
05:04:16 We're here to talk on item 1 to ask for a
05:04:19 continuance to I believe May 12.
05:04:23 >> 5:01 p.m., May 12, 2016.
05:04:25 >> The reason for the continuance, there were
05:04:27 supposed to be two items on the agenda, one which
05:04:29 is on there, the map amendment for the area-wide
05:04:32 rezoning.
05:04:32 There was also supposed to be a code amendment to
05:04:37 adopt a code at the same time.
05:04:39 Since that did not get on the agenda, we were not
05:04:41 able to process the map amendment since the code
05:04:43 is not in effect.
05:04:44 So we're asking for a continuance to May 12th at
05:04:48 5:01.
05:04:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
05:04:49 Any questions?
05:04:50 I see none.
05:04:51 Is there anyone in the public who would like to
05:04:53 speak about item number 1, ARZ 16-01?
05:04:58 Sir, have you been sworn?
05:05:02 >> No.
05:05:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
05:05:03 Go ahead and swear him in, Mr. Crew.
05:05:09 [Oath administered]
05:05:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Sir, before you begin, you can only
05:05:16 speak on the continuance itself, not on the merits
05:05:18 of the case.
05:05:19 That will be reopened May 12th.
05:05:21 >> Okay.
05:05:22 I was prepared to speak.
05:05:24 Randy and I just had a conversation about that
05:05:27 particular issue, and we're going to meet and talk
05:05:30 about it further.
05:05:31 At that point, I will return, if need be, to
05:05:35 express our concerns about the rezoning.
05:05:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Sure.
05:05:37 Just for the purpose of the record, please state
05:05:39 your name.
05:05:40 >> Andre Hill.
05:05:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
05:05:42 Is there anyone else in the audience that would
05:05:45 like to speak on item number 1?
05:05:48 I have a motion to close from Mr. Maniscalco --
05:05:50 oh, no.
05:05:51 We keep it open.
05:05:52 I apologize.
05:05:53 Motion to continue to May 12th.
05:05:55 Who did the motion?
05:05:57 Ms. Capin.
05:05:59 Motion by Ms. Capin.
05:06:01 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
05:06:02 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
05:06:04 saying aye.
05:06:05 Any opposed?
05:06:06 Thank you.
05:06:07 The second item of business is a resolution.
05:06:11 I am going to ask our parks, recreation and
05:06:14 culture committee chair, Mr. Maniscalco to move
05:06:17 that item.
05:06:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I would like to move item
05:06:19 number 2.
05:06:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from
05:06:21 Mr. Maniscalco, a second from Mr. Cohen, all in
05:06:24 favor -- yes, sir.
05:06:27 >> Just for purposes of state law, ask --
05:06:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is there anyone in the audience who
05:06:31 wishes to speak on item number 2, which is a
05:06:33 special event permit?
05:06:35 Item number 2 on the agenda.
05:06:37 Ma'am, are you coming up to speak?
05:06:40 Thank you.
05:06:40 I see no one.
05:06:41 All right.
05:06:42 We have a motion from Mr. Maniscalco.
05:06:43 I have a second from Mr. Cohen.
05:06:45 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
05:06:47 saying aye.
05:06:48 Any opposed.
05:06:48 Thank you.
05:06:49 All right.
05:06:50 We will be adjourned until 6 p.m.
05:06:53 Thank you.
06:02:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I call Tampa City Council to order.
06:02:54 Roll call, please.
06:02:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
06:02:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
06:03:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
06:03:02 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
06:03:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
06:03:05 >> Montelione?
06:03:05 Suarez?
06:03:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
06:03:07 Thank you very much.
06:03:07 We are going to open up or ask to open up the
06:03:11 public hearings.
06:03:11 I have a motion from Mr. Miranda.
06:03:14 Second from Mr. Cohen to open all public hearings,
06:03:18 items 3 through 13.
06:03:19 All in favor of that, please indicate by saying
06:03:22 aye.
06:03:22 Any opposed.
06:03:23 Thank you.
06:03:26 If we could, we'll clear the agenda first and then
06:03:30 we'll ask for people to be sworn in.
06:03:32 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Good evening, Chairman Suarez.
06:03:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Good evening and happy birthday.
06:03:36 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you.
06:03:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Everyone be nice to Ms. Feeley.
06:03:40 Go ahead.
06:03:40 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Item number 4 SU2-16-03 will go to
06:03:50 May 12, 2016.
06:03:52 Item number --
06:03:59 >> Mr. Chairman, can we take the items
06:04:03 individually?
06:04:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Sure.
06:04:04 If I can have an --
06:04:10 >> This is an affidavit.
06:04:12 Cannot be heard.
06:04:13 Needs to be removed from the agenda.
06:04:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Can I have a motion?
06:04:16 Okay.
06:04:17 To the May 12th --
06:04:20 >> It's already been reset.
06:04:22 Item number 4 --
06:04:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before you go.
06:04:26 Motion on item number 4 from Mr. Cohen.
06:04:30 Who was the second?
06:04:30 Mr. Maniscalco is the second.
06:04:32 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
06:04:34 saying aye.
06:04:35 Any opposed?
06:04:36 Thank you.
06:04:36 >>ABBYE FEELEY: 7 and 8 were also misnoticed.
06:04:40 Those cases have been reset for May 12th at
06:04:43 6 p.m. as well.
06:04:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Could I have a motion on number 7?
06:04:47 >> Move to remove from the agenda.
06:04:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
06:04:50 Second from Ms. Montelione.
06:04:51 All in favor of the motion, indicate by saying
06:04:53 aye.
06:04:54 Any opposed?
06:04:55 >> Motion to remove number 8.
06:04:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
06:04:58 Second from Ms. Capin.
06:04:59 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
06:05:01 saying aye.
06:05:02 Any opposed?
06:05:03 Thank you.
06:05:03 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Item number 12, REZ 16-28, that is
06:05:10 going to be continued to May 12th, 2016 as well.
06:05:14 We had set it, but there was an issue with the
06:05:19 fire access lane that we couldn't get revolved
06:05:21 before this evening.
06:05:22 Staff is asking that that be continued.
06:05:24 Ms. Grimes is the agent on the case.
06:05:26 She is present tonight.
06:05:27 We have discussed that, and if you would continue
06:05:29 it to May 12th.
06:05:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
06:05:32 Why don't we go ahead and have the clerk swear
06:05:35 everyone in, so if there's anyone that wants to
06:05:37 speak on that continuance, they can from the
06:05:39 public.
06:05:40 Mr. Crew.
06:05:40 All those who want to speak on any item, items 3
06:05:45 through 13 on the agenda or might want to speak at
06:05:48 some point tonight, please stand and raise your
06:05:50 hand so we can swear you in for the record.
06:05:54 [oath administered]
06:06:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:06:01 Ms. Feeley, you want a continuance for item number
06:06:04 12.
06:06:05 Is there anyone in the public who would like to
06:06:07 speak on the continuance only on item 12, REZ
06:06:10 16-28 on the continuance only?
06:06:14 Anyone in the public who would like to speak.
06:06:16 I see no one.
06:06:18 >> Move to continue to May 12th.
06:06:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
06:06:20 Second from Ms. Montelione.
06:06:22 What time?
06:06:22 At 6 p.m.
06:06:23 Thank you very much.
06:06:24 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
06:06:27 saying aye.
06:06:28 Mr. Miranda.
06:06:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 100% possibility that I will
06:06:33 not be here on May 12th.
06:06:35 I will be outside the city.
06:06:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
06:06:38 We'll make sure that the petitioners know that,
06:06:41 we'll be short one person for that particular
06:06:43 hearing.
06:06:43 Thank you, sir.
06:06:44 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Last item, item number 13, also
06:06:48 they did not submit information in a timely
06:06:50 fashion to be heard tonight, so we would ask that
06:06:53 that case also be continued to May 12th.
06:06:56 And Mr. Clisset is present tonight, the applicant.
06:07:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
06:07:03 Would the petitioner like to come forward?
06:07:09 Come to the microphone, please.
06:07:11 Please state your name.
06:07:15 >> David Clisset.
06:07:17 Authorized agent for the project and this case.
06:07:20 We humbly request that you continue to May the
06:07:23 12th.
06:07:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:07:24 Anyone in the public that would like to speak on
06:07:26 the continuance only of item 13, REZ 15-66?
06:07:31 >> Move to continue.
06:07:38 >>HARRY COHEN: We just set five items for
06:07:41 May 12th.
06:07:41 Where are we in the terms of the number of cases?
06:07:44 >>ABBYE FEELEY: That should be 11.
06:07:46 When I checked it before I left the office, that
06:07:48 should be 11 for that night.
06:07:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:07:50 I have a motion from Mr. Cohen.
06:07:52 A second I believe from Ms. Montelione.
06:07:54 All in favor of that motion for the continuance
06:07:56 with the time, 6 p.m., May 12, 2016.
06:08:00 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
06:08:03 saying aye.
06:08:04 Any opposed?
06:08:04 Thank you, Ms. Feeley.
06:08:05 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Therefore, if I may, the items
06:08:07 moving forward tonight would be item 3, item 5,
06:08:11 item 6, item 9, item 10, and item 11.
06:08:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
06:08:22 Okay.
06:08:23 Item number 3.
06:08:24 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you.
06:08:25 Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
06:08:27 Item number 3 on your agenda this evening is
06:08:29 SU2-15-09, located at 706 West 113th Avenue.
06:08:38 The request before you tonight is for a special
06:08:40 use for a place of religious assembly, day care,
06:08:42 and nursery facility.
06:08:43 This is an existing church built in 1979, and they
06:08:47 are seeking to add a day care use to it.
06:08:54 >> Good evening, Council members, David Hay with
06:08:57 your Planning Commission staff.
06:08:59 I have been sworn.
06:09:00 This starts the evening out in the university
06:09:02 planning district.
06:09:03 It is approximately 2.27-acre subject site.
06:09:07 It is located southeast corner of West 113th
06:09:11 Avenue and Marjorie Avenue in the east part of
06:09:15 Hills neighborhood.
06:09:17 Transit is located within proximity of the site on
06:09:19 North Boulevard, and it is not located in an
06:09:22 evacuation zone.
06:09:22 Here we have the aerial.
06:09:25 The subject site is right here in the center.
06:09:28 To the east, we have north Florida Avenue, country
06:09:32 club drive is up to the north.
06:09:34 We've got the babe Zahara golf course and the
06:09:39 community park to the south.
06:09:41 On to the future land use category the subject
06:09:47 site in the tan color that surrounds it is all the
06:09:50 residential 10 future land use category.
06:09:52 And then you can see the community commercial 35
06:09:55 over on Florida Avenue.
06:09:57 The green areas represent recreation open space.
06:10:03 The requested special use will utilize the
06:10:07 existing structure built as Abbye said in 1979.
06:10:10 It will fit seamlessly into the neighborhood.
06:10:13 No modifications to the existing structure are
06:10:15 proposed through this special use request.
06:10:18 As you know, within the comp plan, residential
06:10:20 support uses, such as day cares, are encouraged to
06:10:23 be located within proximity to residential
06:10:26 development so long as these type uses are
06:10:28 sensitive to the existing residential development,
06:10:31 and Planning Commission staff found the proposed
06:10:34 special use meets those goals of the comp plan.
06:10:38 Therefore, based on those findings and the goals,
06:10:40 objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan,
06:10:42 Planning Commission staff finds the special use
06:10:45 request consistent with the Tampa comprehensive
06:10:47 plan.
06:10:47 Thank you.
06:10:57 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you, David.
06:10:58 This special use request tonight, as we've stated,
06:11:01 is to add a day care and nursery facility to
06:11:03 existing place of religious assembly.
06:11:06 There are three waivers being requested tonight.
06:11:08 The first is to allow access to a local street,
06:11:11 West 113th Avenue and North Marjorie Avenue in
06:11:15 lieu of direct access to an arterial or collector.
06:11:18 The second is to reduce the required parking from
06:11:22 90 spaces to 43 spaces.
06:11:24 And the last is to allow for grass parking.
06:11:27 I'm going to show you the conditions of the site
06:11:30 now.
06:11:31 As we mentioned, this church was constructed in
06:11:33 1979.
06:11:35 Churches became a special use in 1987.
06:11:38 So this is one of those special uses that up until
06:11:41 now would be considered to be conforming when they
06:11:43 want to add the day care use to it, they now need
06:11:46 to bring a new special use in for the property as
06:11:50 a whole for both the church and the day care use.
06:11:53 The applicant is requesting that the one-story,
06:11:59 5,573-square-foot place of religious assembly,
06:12:03 which contains a 300-seat sanctuary, the proposed
06:12:08 day care with 50 students will occur in the two
06:12:11 existing fellowship buildings, which total 6,075
06:12:15 square feet.
06:12:16 The property is approximately 2.27 acres, and it's
06:12:20 located at the southeast corner of West 113th
06:12:23 Avenue and North Marjorie Avenue.
06:12:26 The proposed uses cumulatively require 90 spaces
06:12:31 and a total of 43 spaces are provided.
06:12:33 As I mentioned, they are requesting a waiver for
06:12:37 the deficit.
06:12:38 There are approximately 80 protected trees on this
06:12:41 site, including two grands.
06:12:43 The applicant is proposing retention of all
06:12:46 existing trees, which limits the area to provide
06:12:49 the additional parking or the required total
06:12:52 number of required parking.
06:12:53 The applicant has also requested waivers to allow
06:12:56 access to the two local streets in lieu of direct
06:12:59 access to an arterial or collector, as well as to
06:13:01 allow the existing use of the grass parking
06:13:05 spaces.
06:13:05 The building setback for the property are north
06:13:10 Marjorie Avenue, 40 feet, 113th Avenue, 7-foot.
06:13:14 The rear, 20 feet.
06:13:17 The property is surrounded by detached
06:13:19 single-family residential to the south, west and
06:13:22 north and a vacant lot to the east.
06:13:24 I'll go ahead and show you the aerial of the
06:13:31 property.
06:13:32 As David mentioned, and I just mentioned there are
06:13:37 a lot of trees.
06:13:39 Ola Avenue, 113th to the north.
06:13:42 Marjorie to the west.
06:13:45 Here is the zoning atlas.
06:13:49 It shows RS-60.
06:13:51 There is some CI over off of Florida Avenue when
06:13:55 you go further to the east.
06:13:59 I'm going to show you pictures of the site now.
06:14:03 I'm going to start here at the corner of 113th.
06:14:08 I'm going to work down the street showing you the
06:14:11 subject property first.
06:14:12 I will come and show you a few of the houses here
06:14:16 and then I'll come back up and show you the north
06:14:18 side of 113th.
06:14:20 This is the subject property of the two fellowship
06:14:34 halls, the sanctuary, moving west on 113th,
06:14:41 you'll start to see, this is the existing parking
06:14:44 area.
06:14:47 Turning the corner onto Marjorie, now looking back
06:14:51 east toward the property traveling south down
06:14:59 Marjorie.
06:14:59 This is immediately adjacent.
06:15:05 This is directly on the west side of Marjorie.
06:15:10 This is the northwest corner of Marjorie and
06:15:12 113th.
06:15:14 And then directly across the street now headed
06:15:16 back east on Marjorie across the street from the
06:15:22 existing church, single-family residential, and
06:15:27 then here is the corner of 113th and Ola.
06:15:32 And this is the view back down 113th toward
06:15:36 Marjorie.
06:15:37 I also do have the site plan of the property
06:15:54 available.
06:15:55 I just took you down 113th.
06:15:58 These are the two fellowship buildings that will
06:16:00 be utilized.
06:16:02 The existing sanctuary is here, and the parking
06:16:04 area I just showed you with the trees are there.
06:16:07 There are no structural modifications to the
06:16:09 existing facility being proposed.
06:16:12 There are a couple of site plan modifications that
06:16:17 are required in between first and second reading.
06:16:20 The first is from transportation to show the
06:16:24 sidewalks that will be provided on North Marjorie
06:16:27 Avenue.
06:16:28 And the second comments are from natural
06:16:31 resources, and they are just saying when the
06:16:35 sidewalk is installed, they would need to work
06:16:37 with natural resources for the protected radius of
06:16:40 those along 113th Avenue.
06:16:43 Other than that, staff findings on pages 3, 4, and
06:16:51 5 of the report.
06:16:52 And I am available for any questions.
06:16:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:16:55 Petitioner?
06:16:56 Do we have a petitioner here for item number 3?
06:17:04 Thank you, ma'am.
06:17:06 >> Good evening.
06:17:06 My name is Johnette Robinson.
06:17:09 I'm here representing St. Clement's Episcopal
06:17:11 Church at 706 West 113th Avenue in Tampa.
06:17:14 I have been sworn in.
06:17:16 I wanted to speak tonight on our church's request
06:17:20 to put in a preschool.
06:17:22 Our church has been on this property actually for
06:17:24 60 years.
06:17:25 We will be celebrating our 60th anniversary this
06:17:27 year in June.
06:17:28 We are looking to put a small morning only
06:17:32 preschool for approximately 50 children, maximum
06:17:36 in that facility.
06:17:37 We aren't planning on building anything.
06:17:40 We're not planning on making any major site
06:17:42 improvements beyond what might be requested of us.
06:17:46 I'm here if you have any questions.
06:17:53 And I also have my engineer if you have any
06:17:57 technical questions.
06:17:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone from Council like to ask
06:18:00 questions of the petitioner?
06:18:02 Ms. Montelione.
06:18:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: In this type of application, we
06:18:06 usually don't put hours of operation.
06:18:08 >> We're looking to operate from 9 a.m. to noon.
06:18:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So that's what I was going to
06:18:12 ask.
06:18:13 Morning only.
06:18:14 >> Morning only.
06:18:15 During the school year and summer.
06:18:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions of Council?
06:18:24 Is there anyone in the public that would like to
06:18:27 comment on item number 3?
06:18:29 Item number 3.
06:18:32 >> Move to close.
06:18:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion to close from
06:18:35 Mr. Miranda.
06:18:35 A second from Mr. Maniscalco.
06:18:37 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
06:18:40 saying aye.
06:18:41 Any opposed?
06:18:42 Thank you.
06:18:44 Mr. Miranda, would you take number three, please.
06:18:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move file number SU 2-15-09
06:18:54 ordinance being presented for first reading
06:18:56 consideration.
06:18:56 An ordinance approving a special use permit S-2,
06:18:59 approving a place of religious assembly and day
06:19:02 care and nursery facility in an RS-60 zoning
06:19:05 district in the general vicinity of 706 West
06:19:07 113th Avenue in the City of Tampa, Florida and
06:19:10 as more particularly described in section 1,
06:19:12 providing an effective date, along with the
06:19:14 permitted waivers.
06:19:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Miranda.
06:19:16 A second from Mr. Cohen.
06:19:18 All in favor of the motion, indicate by saying
06:19:20 aye.
06:19:21 Any opposed?
06:19:21 Thank you.
06:19:22 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
06:19:24 Second reading and adoption May 5th at 9:30 a.m.
06:19:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you for attending.
06:19:29 Okay.
06:19:31 We have item number 5.
06:19:33 Excuse me.
06:19:41 We're still going on.
06:19:43 If you can silently leave, thank you.
06:19:45 Pretend you are going to church.
06:19:46 Thank you.
06:19:47 Appreciate it.
06:19:47 Item number 5.
06:19:50 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you very much.
06:19:51 Abbye Feeley, Land Development Coordination.
06:19:53 Item number 5 on your agenda tonight is REZ 16-20.
06:19:58 It's located at 3818 West State Street.
06:20:02 It is a Euclidean rezoning request from RS-50
06:20:06 residential single-family to RO residential
06:20:08 office.
06:20:09 There are no waivers, and this is not a site plan
06:20:14 controlled application.
06:20:18 >>DAVID HAY: David Hay with your Planning
06:20:20 Commission staff.
06:20:21 I have been sworn.
06:20:22 We move over to the Westshore business district,
06:20:25 the planning district for the next case.
06:20:26 The subject site is located at the southeast
06:20:29 corner of West State Street and North Church
06:20:32 Avenue.
06:20:33 It is a .24-acre subject site.
06:20:36 It is located in an area where there's multiple
06:20:40 transit routes.
06:20:41 Route 10 over on cypress, and then the route 36 on
06:20:46 Dale Mabry.
06:20:46 They are both one block off from the site.
06:20:48 And the subject site is located within a level D
06:20:51 evacuation zone.
06:20:52 On to the aerial, the subject site is right here,
06:20:57 right in the center.
06:20:58 I wanted to zoom out so you could see the
06:21:00 intensity of the surrounding area.
06:21:02 You've got -- here is Cypress Street.
06:21:07 We've got north Dale Mabry highway.
06:21:11 Of course, interstate 275 running across the east
06:21:14 to west.
06:21:16 Also, you can see that commercial development,
06:21:19 office development, all along the Dale Mabry
06:21:23 corridor, and then it continues down, we have the
06:21:25 hotel.
06:21:26 We've got Alexander's, of course, kind of a block
06:21:29 over.
06:21:30 Then we've got the target and everything on the
06:21:34 other side of the interstate.
06:21:38 On to the future land use map.
06:21:41 The subject site and all this brown that surrounds
06:21:45 it is the residential 20 future land use category.
06:21:51 Then you end up over on the Dale Mabry corridor,
06:21:54 which is here.
06:21:55 RMU 100, so it's a very intensive corridor.
06:21:58 And that continues down Church Street with the RMU
06:22:02 100 and some community commercial 35 in the red.
06:22:05 The tan color to the south is all that residential
06:22:11 10 future land use category.
06:22:13 It should be noted that this segment of North
06:22:17 Church Avenue directly adjacent to the subject
06:22:19 site is not actually a street.
06:22:22 It's a drainage ditch, so the street doesn't
06:22:25 actually go through.
06:22:26 So traffic is limited.
06:22:27 There's no through traffic here.
06:22:29 And then the road actually dead ends, State Street
06:22:32 actually dead ends to the south also.
06:22:34 It is -- the area is currently -- the site
06:22:44 immediately adjacent to it is zoned that
06:22:46 residential single-family 50.
06:22:48 It is one of the only remaining houses on that
06:22:51 block from church to north Dale Mabry.
06:22:55 Predominantly vacant.
06:22:59 The predominant residential portion of West State
06:23:03 Street is located to the west of North Church
06:23:06 Street.
06:23:07 West State Street west of the subject site is also
06:23:09 a dead end road.
06:23:11 We talked about that and the drainage ditch also
06:23:14 to the west.
06:23:15 Regarding the commercial locational criteria,
06:23:18 Planning Commission staff has found that it is
06:23:20 consistent with the applicable criteria within the
06:23:23 residential 20 future land use category.
06:23:25 Primary access would be from the north Dale Mabry
06:23:28 Highway or Cypress Street corridors, limiting
06:23:31 traffic intrusion to the residential portion of
06:23:34 West State Street.
06:23:35 And the subject site is also located approximately
06:23:38 245 feet from that Cypress Street corridor, the
06:23:42 locational criteria restricts it to 250 feet.
06:23:45 So it's just within that limits of the locational
06:23:50 criteria.
06:23:50 Overall, the proposed residential office use would
06:23:53 provide for an appropriate transition between the
06:23:56 intensive uses located along the adjacent Cypress
06:23:58 Street and North Dale Mabry Highway corridors to
06:24:01 the single-family residential uses located to the
06:24:04 west of North Church Street.
06:24:06 The proposed rezoning to residential office would
06:24:08 also be consistent with the development pattern
06:24:11 envisioned under that residential 20 future land
06:24:13 use category.
06:24:14 Therefore, based on those findings, the goals,
06:24:16 objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan,
06:24:19 Planning Commission staff finds the proposed
06:24:22 rezoning consistent with the Tampa comprehensive
06:24:23 plan.
06:24:24 Thank you.
06:24:26 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you, David.
06:24:27 Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
06:24:30 As I stated, this is an application from RS-50 to
06:24:33 RO.
06:24:34 It is Euclidean.
06:24:35 Meaning for us that it's not site plan controlled.
06:24:39 There is a set of zoning regulations, standard
06:24:43 zoning regulations that will be applicable to this
06:24:45 property at the time of either redevelopment or at
06:24:49 the time of conversion of the existing structure
06:24:52 to a residential office type use.
06:24:54 The property at 3818 West State Street is 10,400
06:25:00 square feet.
06:25:01 As David mentioned, it is located west of north
06:25:04 Dale Mabry.
06:25:05 It's one block south of cypress, and it is
06:25:08 surrounded by the City of Tampa stormwater ditch
06:25:10 to the west, place of religious assembly to the
06:25:13 north, vacant property to the east, and vehicle
06:25:16 repair further east of the intersection, and
06:25:22 vehicle sales and leasing to the north.
06:25:24 I just showed you the aerial.
06:25:31 This is the property here.
06:25:34 State Street, Church.
06:25:35 Church does dead end here, and then there is that
06:25:39 ditch that takes that like two blocks and then
06:25:42 also continues in the other direction.
06:25:45 Show you the zoning atlas.
06:25:49 As you can see, there is CI property that starts
06:25:53 at Dale Mabry and comes west.
06:25:54 It actually dipped down to the center line of
06:25:58 State Street directly north of this property, so
06:26:01 you have CI uses there.
06:26:03 There is some vacant property both directly to the
06:26:07 east of the subject as well as on the north side
06:26:11 of state.
06:26:11 I'll show you some of those pictures in just a few
06:26:15 moments.
06:26:16 This is the subject property.
06:26:24 There is the parking area.
06:26:26 This is the stormwater ditch.
06:26:31 This is just to the west along state.
06:26:41 So this is on the west side of church along state,
06:26:45 and this is on the north side of state coming back
06:26:49 toward the intersection of state and church.
06:26:52 This is directly north of the property, and this
06:26:58 is to the east of that, moving down toward Dale
06:27:03 Mabry, you have that commercial dog leg that I
06:27:07 showed you that came in right there.
06:27:08 And then one residence.
06:27:12 There's some vacant property that backs up to some
06:27:16 vehicle sales and leasing along cypress.
06:27:19 As you approach Dale Mabry, this is the corner of
06:27:23 Dale Mabry and state, the north corner.
06:27:27 This is the south corner of Dale Mabry and state.
06:27:29 So this is to the west.
06:27:33 To the east of the subject property, this actually
06:27:37 used to be a custom auto repair.
06:27:40 It's no longer in this location.
06:27:42 Immediately adjacent to the subject is a large
06:27:46 span of vacant property.
06:27:49 This is at the corner of Church and State looking
06:27:52 back toward Dale Mabry.
06:27:54 This again is a picture of the subject property.
06:27:58 The district requires that the property of 5,000
06:28:01 square feet lot area with a minimum width of
06:28:04 50 feet.
06:28:05 The setbacks are 25-foot front, 7-foot side and
06:28:08 20-foot rear.
06:28:09 Maximum building height would be 35 feet.
06:28:13 Staff found that given the proximity to Dale Mabry
06:28:17 and the character of the surrounding area, that
06:28:19 the request was consistent.
06:28:21 Lastly, there was a comment from natural resources
06:28:25 to let the applicant know that there is one grand
06:28:28 tree on-site and several trees not identified
06:28:32 correctly on the survey.
06:28:34 At the time of permitting, both of those items
06:28:37 would need to be taken care of.
06:28:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Petitioner?
06:28:42 Item number 5.
06:28:44 Are you on item number 5, REZ 16-20?
06:28:56 >> My name is Mouchir Chenouda.
06:28:58 I'm sworn in.
06:28:59 I am the petitioner for this application.
06:29:01 I can answer any questions you may have.
06:29:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do you have anything to say about
06:29:07 your particular property and what you're going to
06:29:09 use it for?
06:29:10 >> I use it for my personal office.
06:29:13 I'm an engineer, and just working by myself.
06:29:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Are there any questions of the
06:29:20 Council to the petitioner?
06:29:21 Okay.
06:29:22 Is there anyone in the public who would like to
06:29:25 comment on item number 5?
06:29:26 Item number 5?
06:29:28 I see no one.
06:29:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion to close from
06:29:30 Mr. Maniscalco.
06:29:31 I have a second from Ms. Montelione.
06:29:33 All those in favor of that motion, please indicate
06:29:35 by saying aye.
06:29:36 Any opposed?
06:29:37 Thank you.
06:29:38 Mr. Reddick, will you please take item number 5,
06:29:40 sir.
06:29:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move an ordinance being presented
06:29:45 for first reading consideration, an ordinance
06:29:47 rezoning property in the general vicinity of 3818
06:29:50 West State Street in the City of Tampa, Florida
06:29:52 and more particularly described in section 1, from
06:29:55 zoning district classification RS-50, residential,
06:29:58 single-family, to RO, residential office,
06:30:00 providing an effective date.
06:30:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick.
06:30:03 A second from Mr. Miranda.
06:30:05 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
06:30:07 saying aye.
06:30:08 Any opposed?
06:30:08 Thank you.
06:30:11 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
06:30:13 Second reading and adoption, May 5th at
06:30:15 9:30 a.m.
06:30:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Feeley.
06:30:18 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you, Council.
06:30:19 Abbye Feeley, Land Development Coordination.
06:30:21 Item number 6 on your agenda this evening is REZ
06:30:25 16-21.
06:30:27 It's located at 4125 West San Juan Street.
06:30:31 The request before you tonight is another
06:30:33 Euclidean request, non-site plan controlled from
06:30:36 RS-60 to RS-50.
06:30:48 >>DAVID HAY: David Hay with your Planning
06:30:50 Commission staff.
06:30:50 I have been sworn.
06:30:51 We move down to the south Tampa planning district
06:30:54 for this next case.
06:30:55 The subject site located at the northeast corner
06:30:57 of west San Juan Street and South Lois Avenue
06:31:02 approximately .23 acres in size.
06:31:04 The area is served by transit.
06:31:07 The root 36 and 19 are located within the area.
06:31:12 The surrounding area is overall single-family
06:31:15 detached in character.
06:31:16 It is located within a level D evacuation zone.
06:31:20 And the closest public recreational facility
06:31:23 friendship park is located until .1 miles to the
06:31:26 northeast on west Bay to Bay boulevard.
06:31:29 On to the aerial, I zoomed out again, the subject
06:31:33 site is right here in the center.
06:31:36 This is Lois Avenue, and we've got Bay to Bay a
06:31:42 block, two blocks to the north.
06:31:43 You can see that the area overall is single-family
06:31:47 detached in character.
06:31:48 There are some neighborhood-serving commercial
06:31:51 uses located up near the intersection of Manhattan
06:31:55 and Bay to Bay in this area right here.
06:31:58 But overall, it's all mostly single-family
06:32:01 detached.
06:32:02 On to the future land use map, that future land
06:32:05 use map kind of reflects the development pattern
06:32:09 in the area.
06:32:10 The subject site in all this tan color is all that
06:32:13 residential 10.
06:32:14 The lots actually get larger north of Bay to Bay.
06:32:18 In the yellow, it's all that residential 6.
06:32:21 And then you can see the commercial area located
06:32:24 on Bay to Bay in the pink, in the community mixed
06:32:28 use 35.
06:32:29 The requested rezoning, not a planned development,
06:32:33 as listed in the staff report, seeks to allow for
06:32:37 the construction of two single-family detached
06:32:39 houses at 4125 San Juan Street.
06:32:42 An incorrect address was listed in error within
06:32:46 the staff analysis section of the Planning
06:32:50 Commission report.
06:32:51 So I just wanted to correct that for the record.
06:32:53 Preserving and maintaining the stability of
06:32:56 existing single-family neighborhood while
06:32:59 increasing housing opportunities for Tampa's
06:33:02 growing population are vital components of the
06:33:04 city's comprehensive plan.
06:33:06 The requested rezoning petition is located in a
06:33:10 desirable neighborhood with ample opportunities
06:33:11 for home ownership and convenient access to public
06:33:15 transportation.
06:33:18 And the area is appropriate for infill that is
06:33:23 compatible with the surrounding development
06:33:25 pattern.
06:33:25 Planning Commission staff does note that the
06:33:28 applicant should continue to work with the City of
06:33:31 Tampa natural resource staff through the site
06:33:33 planning process to ensure that any protected
06:33:35 trees are not disturbed, and approval of the
06:33:38 applicant's request will increase the supply of
06:33:41 single-family detached housing within the south
06:33:43 Tampa planning district while meeting the intent
06:33:46 and provisions of the city's comprehensive plan.
06:33:49 So, therefore, based on those findings and the
06:33:52 goals, objectives and policies of the
06:33:54 comprehensive plan, the Planning Commission staff
06:33:56 finds the proposed rezoning consistent with the
06:33:57 Tampa comprehensive plan.
06:33:58 Thank you.
06:34:02 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you, David.
06:34:03 Abbye Feeley, Land Development Coordination.
06:34:07 The request before you tonight is from RS-60 to
06:34:11 RS-50 to allow for two single-family detached
06:34:14 lots.
06:34:15 Lot 13 would be 50 by 100 and lot 14 would be 50
06:34:19 by 100.
06:34:21 The subject property has 10,000 square feet.
06:34:24 It's currently occupied by a single-family
06:34:27 dwelling unit.
06:34:28 All structures on the property would have to be
06:34:30 removed in order for this application to move
06:34:34 forward.
06:34:44 >>HARRY COHEN: We've seen this before.
06:34:45 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Yes.
06:34:46 This is REZ 14-38.
06:34:50 Came before you as a PD.
06:34:51 The PD sought to keep the existing structure and
06:34:54 require that there were reduced setbacks and other
06:34:56 things to accommodate the establishment of the
06:34:59 other lot.
06:35:00 >>HARRY COHEN: Now there's a change from that
06:35:04 being asked for.
06:35:05 >>ABBYE FEELEY: They would like just the RS-50
06:35:07 which would demolish the existing structure, and
06:35:10 then create two buildable lots.
06:35:12 So no setback reduction or variances or
06:35:15 accommodations for the existing structure.
06:35:17 In order for this to move forward, the existing
06:35:19 structure would need to be removed.
06:35:21 Let me go ahead and show you -- when we do these
06:35:34 applications, we provide you with a map showing
06:35:37 you what is conforming to the RS-60, meaning
06:35:41 60 feet or greater, and what is nonconforming to
06:35:44 the RS-60, which would be 59.99 feet or less.
06:35:48 Computers are awesome, and we use them a lot, but
06:35:54 I decided to go old-school on you and show you how
06:35:58 we really do these when we look at what is going
06:36:02 on.
06:36:02 Because it's not just really a question of whether
06:36:06 something is less than 50 feet.
06:36:08 To me, this exercise was helpful in seeing exactly
06:36:13 what the larger lots were and how they related to
06:36:16 what we had.
06:36:17 So here's my work sheet.
06:36:21 Let me show what you that translated into when we
06:36:23 put together the wonders of the GIS.
06:36:27 What was in your staff report that I provided
06:36:29 looked like this.
06:36:31 This is the Marilyn manor subdivision.
06:36:36 And the subject is shown here in green.
06:36:39 San Juan to the south, Lois to the west, Clark to
06:36:43 the east, Bay to Bay to the north, as David
06:36:47 discussed.
06:36:47 There is a large park here, and this was a
06:36:51 separate subdivision, which I did not include in
06:36:54 my original.
06:36:56 This afternoon, I went back.
06:36:57 Our power was down in the office for like an hour
06:37:00 and a half this afternoon.
06:37:01 I did hand-write it in for you.
06:37:04 I did not recalculate the numbers of the analysis
06:37:07 because in my analysis, the block base still
06:37:11 remains the same, which is split 50-50.
06:37:15 50% of the lots on the block face are
06:37:17 nonconforming and are at a 50-foot.
06:37:20 And 50% are larger.
06:37:22 When I came to this intersection, and you'll see
06:37:25 on this intersection as well, many of them have
06:37:27 the 50-foot lots at the intersection.
06:37:30 You all know the intersection of Lois and Bay to
06:37:33 Bay, and this also has 50-foot lots, four of them
06:37:37 directly to the north.
06:37:38 So on the block itself, both block faces were a
06:37:44 50-50 split.
06:37:45 Four at 50-foot.
06:37:47 Four at larger than 50-foot.
06:37:49 On San Juan, four at 50-foot.
06:37:51 Four larger than 50-foot.
06:37:53 What was interesting when I sat down and wrote it
06:37:57 all out again was that they are not just
06:37:59 60-footers.
06:38:01 The one next to these 104, 85, 153.
06:38:04 On the south side, it was 75, 65, 60, so it wasn't
06:38:08 a matter of everything that was red was right at
06:38:13 60.
06:38:14 There's 62, 50, 90.
06:38:17 What's interesting is throughout this whole study
06:38:19 area, that immediately adjacent to each other on a
06:38:22 number of different blocks are 50s next to 85.
06:38:26 50 next to 75.
06:38:28 So there isn't a predominant pattern either way of
06:38:33 everything else was a lot and a half and all
06:38:36 75-foot or everything else.
06:38:38 So it was a 50-50 split.
06:38:40 My recommendation was that the reestablishment of
06:38:43 the platted lots was actually consistent with the
06:38:45 overall area.
06:38:46 I provided that analysis for you on page 2 of my
06:38:56 report.
06:38:57 I provided you with the original subdivision or
06:39:00 those pages on 3 and 4.
06:39:03 Again, this is Euclidean, RS-50.
06:39:06 Means each lot would be 50 by 100.
06:39:08 The setbacks are front setback of 20 feet, a rear
06:39:12 setback of 20 feet.
06:39:13 Side corner of seven, and maximum building height
06:39:17 of 35 feet.
06:39:18 I'm available for questions.
06:39:22 >>HARRY COHEN: A quick question, Ms. Feeley.
06:39:25 On the blue ones, are they all 50s or is there
06:39:31 some variance between where they fall between 50
06:39:33 and 60?
06:39:33 >>ABBYE FEELEY: They fall between.
06:39:36 The corners, some of them were platted on the
06:39:39 block over, they were platted at 50.
06:39:41 On the subject block the west end was platted at
06:39:45 50.
06:39:46 The right end was platted at 55.
06:39:52 Same thing at the block below.
06:39:53 The block below, the west end was plotted at 50.
06:39:56 The right end was platted at 55.
06:39:59 Again, opposite of the subject over on block 19,
06:40:05 this corner was platted at 55.
06:40:07 This was platted at 61.5.
06:40:11 The majority of the interiors are all 50s.
06:40:21 On the east end, these were platted at 52.
06:40:27 There really was no rhyme or reason.
06:40:30 It was really helpful to sit down with the
06:40:31 original and look at how they were adding up.
06:40:34 What I did is went through and read each legal
06:40:37 description on the property and it would say,
06:40:40 like, the east 54 and the west 39 and I wrote them
06:40:45 all down and add them up for you.
06:40:47 I think the story was really more telling as to
06:40:50 there was not a predominant development pattern
06:40:53 either way.
06:40:55 Some of them it looked like maybe down here, since
06:40:57 they were all 75, lot and a half, perhaps those
06:41:00 were all developed at a similar time.
06:41:03 I did not pull all the deeds on all the
06:41:05 properties.
06:41:05 >>HARRY COHEN: Nothing under 50.
06:41:07 >>ABBYE FEELEY: No.
06:41:08 Any additional questions?
06:41:12 Thank you.
06:41:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Petitioner?
06:41:28 >> Good evening.
06:41:29 Good evening, Council members.
06:41:32 Mr. Crew, will you start the clock --
06:41:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Hopefully he started it when you
06:41:45 said good evening.
06:41:46 >> Gina Grimes, with the law firm of Hill, Ward,
06:41:47 Henderson, 101 East Kennedy Boulevard.
06:41:49 Tonight I'm representing Mr. Mark Mobley and
06:41:53 Ms. Lucie Sweeney.
06:41:56 Ms. Sweeney is the owner of the property composed
06:41:59 of two 50-foot plotted lots.
06:42:02 You all did consider the application back in
06:42:05 October of 2014.
06:42:06 And at that time, the application was unanimously
06:42:12 denied.
06:42:13 And although I didn't represent the parties during
06:42:16 that PD rezoning, I did go back and very carefully
06:42:19 review the transcript several times.
06:42:21 And Council members made certain things very
06:42:25 clear.
06:42:25 That was that they believe that the original lot
06:42:28 line should have been kept.
06:42:30 There was a proposal in the PD to shift the lot
06:42:33 line by one foot.
06:42:34 You made it very clear that they needed to adhere
06:42:37 to the setbacks.
06:42:38 That was probably the biggest reason that it was
06:42:40 denied.
06:42:41 But also, you didn't believe it was appropriate
06:42:43 for variances to be granted for the existing home.
06:42:46 In fact, I just have to read one thing real quick
06:42:51 that Mr. Miranda said at the hearing because it
06:42:54 was a classic line.
06:42:55 He says, "Just telling you about me.
06:42:59 Don't come with any variances or setbacks or
06:43:02 anything like that, and bring back the original
06:43:04 site plan."
06:43:05 So that was right to the point.
06:43:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You're right, that is a classic
06:43:10 Miranda line.
06:43:12 >> We heard you, and we're coming back with an
06:43:15 RS-50 Euclidean rezoning.
06:43:18 And the only way to not ask for variances is not
06:43:24 to retain the existing home and to demolish it.
06:43:27 As a result again, no variances.
06:43:29 The last time we had variances for parking,
06:43:31 variances for the driveway depth, and then
06:43:34 variances to the setbacks.
06:43:35 The neighbors also, in reading the transcript,
06:43:38 made a lot of things very clear, and they had
06:43:40 several issues that they articulated.
06:43:43 They said -- they were bothered by the fact they
06:43:45 thought Ms. Sweeney knew when she bought the
06:43:48 property that it was only one buildable lot and
06:43:51 now she was trying to get two.
06:43:52 And they also didn't like the idea that this
06:43:56 beautiful vacant lot was going to be developed
06:43:58 with a house.
06:43:59 Their biggest issue, though, seemed to be with the
06:44:02 setbacks.
06:44:03 They were really bothered by the smaller setbacks.
06:44:05 And they also mentioned a couple of different
06:44:09 times that it wasn't right for the developer to
06:44:11 use the PD process to sidestep the rules, and that
06:44:15 even though there were a lot of nonconforming lots
06:44:18 built in this area, they were built before -- the
06:44:23 homes were built before the RS-60 went into
06:44:27 effect.
06:44:27 I want to tell you that that statement is
06:44:31 completely inaccurate.
06:44:32 Mr. Chairman, I think during that hearing, you
06:44:36 actually asked the question, actually, there were
06:44:38 two hearings.
06:44:40 You asked both hearings, you said I don't
06:44:42 understand why there's so many 50-foot lots with
06:44:45 homes on them, why there are so many nonconforming
06:44:49 lots in this area.
06:44:49 You were asking the question, was it rezoned for
06:44:52 50-foot lots before it was rezoned to RS-60?
06:44:56 Well, I can tell you why there are so many 50-foot
06:45:00 lots with homes.
06:45:00 Some of those homes are newer homes.
06:45:02 They are certainly not all built before the RS-60
06:45:05 went into effect.
06:45:06 The way -- the reason there are so many homes
06:45:09 there is because of the 80% rule lot split.
06:45:14 What is the 80% rule for those of you that weren't
06:45:18 here?
06:45:18 It was a rule that was in effect from 1985 when
06:45:22 RS-60 first went into effect to the year 2005.
06:45:26 So for a 20-year period.
06:45:28 What it was was an exception to the zoning
06:45:31 requirement.
06:45:31 It allowed you to take a conforming lot, and if
06:45:35 you had 80% of the minimum lot width, you could
06:45:38 break it into two nonconforming lots.
06:45:41 So, for instance, in an area like Marilyn manor
06:45:46 where you have RS-60, 80% of RS-60 is 48 feet.
06:45:52 If you had two 50-foot lots you could use the 80%
06:45:55 rule and you could have two buildable lots where
06:45:57 you once had a 100-foot lot.
06:46:00 And you didn't have to go through the rezoning
06:46:05 process.
06:46:06 What's somewhat interesting, too, is that based on
06:46:09 our review of all the deeds, unfortunately, the
06:46:12 city doesn't keep very good records on where all
06:46:14 the 80% rule lots are.
06:46:16 You have to really find it by happenstance.
06:46:20 They are not on the zoning map.
06:46:22 So what's really interesting, though, is one of
06:46:24 the most vocal opponents, which is our neighbor to
06:46:26 the east, two neighbors to the east, Mr. Faulk and
06:46:30 Mr. Depalma, both of them live in homes on 50-foot
06:46:35 lots which appear to have been developed through
06:46:38 the 80% rule, through that exception to the rule
06:46:40 to the RS-60 zoning requirement.
06:46:43 The reason we know that is we evaluated all the
06:46:45 deeds, looked at the ownership.
06:46:48 Saw that there was a single owner in 1990, and he
06:46:51 split it into two separate nonconforming lots.
06:46:55 And that happened throughout.
06:46:56 So what I'd like to show you first is the zoning
06:47:01 map.
06:47:02 You'll see right here that it looks like it's all
06:47:05 uniform RS-50, very little -- or RS-60, very
06:47:10 little or hardly any RS-50 except for on the
06:47:14 edges.
06:47:15 But we developed an 80% rule lot in this area.
06:47:20 What that shows you is that from 1988 to 2003,
06:47:27 there were 24, 80% rule lots that occurred in this
06:47:33 36-block area.
06:47:35 During that time, 50, 50-foot nonconforming lots
06:47:40 were created.
06:47:41 And what that does is it actually effectuates a
06:47:45 rezoning.
06:47:46 Even though you are an RS-60, you can use the 80%
06:47:50 rule and end up with two 50-foot lots, which is an
06:47:53 RS-50 rezoning.
06:47:53 If you took this map right here and overlaid it on
06:47:56 this zoning map that I just showed you, what you
06:47:59 would have is a big mix of RS-50s in there.
06:48:06 All these colored, red-colored blocks, those are
06:48:09 all 80% rules.
06:48:11 So if they hadn't used the 80% rule, what would
06:48:15 have ended up happening is they would have had to
06:48:17 go through the rezoning.
06:48:18 You have all these RS-50 rezoning sprinkled
06:48:21 throughout this whole area.
06:48:22 I think what that shows is that RS-50 is
06:48:29 consistent with the development pattern and the
06:48:32 character of the area because the 80% rule has
06:48:35 been used to implement basically RS-50 in this
06:48:39 area.
06:48:39 Next, I would like to address the conforming,
06:48:43 nonconforming studies that have been provided to
06:48:47 you by the city, and we have some ourselves.
06:48:50 I want to talk about the development pattern.
06:48:55 What you heard Ms. Feeley talk about was her study
06:48:59 area and what it yielded, which was 59%
06:49:02 conforming, 41% nonconforming.
06:49:05 Well, the thing about the study areas, and I know
06:49:08 you see this every week when you have all the
06:49:11 red-blue maps coming at you all the time, it's
06:49:14 really more of an art than a science.
06:49:16 You can move these boxes around and get to
06:49:18 whatever percentages you want, basically.
06:49:20 What I've done here is I've outlined in blue, the
06:49:23 city's study area, but then I outlined in pink our
06:49:27 chosen study area.
06:49:29 In our chosen study area, there was a 50-50 split
06:49:32 between conforming and nonconforming.
06:49:34 In the city study area that they chose, there was
06:49:37 a 59/41 split.
06:49:40 So as you can see, there's no clear development
06:49:44 trends.
06:49:45 And the red-blue maps are really a function of
06:49:47 what areas you looked at.
06:49:49 I'll go quickly because I have a planning expert,
06:49:52 Cindy Tarapani who will also speak.
06:49:56 What we also did and Ms. Feeley touched upon this,
06:49:59 she evaluated the intersection, which gave us the
06:50:01 idea that maybe we should do the same.
06:50:05 We went and looked at in this entire area, 25,
06:50:10 there are 25 intersections.
06:50:12 This is Manhattan.
06:50:13 That's Dale Mabry.
06:50:14 There are 25 intersections.
06:50:15 And of those 25 intersections, the majority of
06:50:20 them, 13, have three or more nonconforming lots on
06:50:24 every corner.
06:50:25 So each one of these red dots represents a corner
06:50:28 that has either three or four nonconforming lots.
06:50:31 And you see that they are clustered in areas,
06:50:33 those more dense lots are clustered in areas where
06:50:36 you have more traffic.
06:50:37 The same thing you see on the edges, you see more
06:50:40 nonconforming lots towards the thorough fares and
06:50:44 towards the major corridors than you do in the
06:50:46 middle.
06:50:47 Ms. Tarapani is going to address that.
06:50:50 I'd like to introduce her and offer her up as our
06:50:56 planning expert.
06:50:57 Master's degree in urban planning and has been a
06:51:01 professional urban planner for the last 34 years.
06:51:04 What's really interesting and appropriate for her
06:51:06 to testify in this case is that she actually
06:51:09 worked for the city.
06:51:10 She was the deputy director or assistant manager
06:51:13 of LDC back in 1985 when I first started and when
06:51:18 she was here, and was part of the team that
06:51:21 implemented the new zoning code, including the 80%
06:51:24 rule.
06:51:24 She is going to address the compatibility and the
06:51:30 consistency of the RS-50 rezoning for this area.
06:51:41 >> Thank you, Gina.
06:51:42 Good evening, Mr. Chairman and Council members.
06:51:45 Cindy Tarapani, vice president of planning for
06:51:48 Florida design consultant.
06:51:49 As Gina mentioned, not only do I have over 35
06:51:51 years of experience in the planning area in public
06:51:54 and private sector, I was the assistant manager
06:51:57 for Land Development Coordination from 1984 to
06:52:00 1989 and had the dubious pleasure of working with
06:52:03 the City Council doing zoning conformance.
06:52:07 You might have heard about that fun and games we
06:52:10 had.
06:52:10 During my tenure with the city, the 80% rule was
06:52:13 proposed and created by the city zoning consultant
06:52:15 as part of the new zoning code chapter 43a.
06:52:18 And it was intended to address platted lots
06:52:20 throughout the city, not just in south Tampa,
06:52:23 throughout many different neighborhoods where the
06:52:26 platted lot was slightly smaller than the zoning
06:52:28 district, both in the RS-50 and RS-60 were
06:52:32 addressed.
06:52:32 Actually, we have the same situation, some of the
06:52:34 RS-75 and RS-100 zoning districts.
06:52:37 The goal at the time was to allow a procedure by
06:52:40 which those platted lots could be utilized and you
06:52:44 could encourage that development within the city's
06:52:47 developed core and not force suburbia and force --
06:52:52 the purpose discussing the 80% rule tonight is
06:52:56 demonstrate that the city regulation, as Gina
06:52:58 showed in the map pretty clearly, created this mix
06:53:00 of 50- and 60-foot lots throughout the entire
06:53:03 neighborhood.
06:53:04 There's no true pattern of predominantly one or
06:53:06 the other.
06:53:09 From the previous approvals -- both the previous
06:53:11 approvals and the Sweeney application would allow
06:53:13 one single-family home on one platted lot.
06:53:16 That is all we're talking about, an increase of
06:53:18 one lot.
06:53:19 In making your decision tonight, as you know, the
06:53:21 City Code requires that the application must be
06:53:24 consistent with two documents.
06:53:25 First, your comprehensive plan and second your
06:53:28 zoning code.
06:53:29 And my summary is presented in the package that
06:53:34 you have.
06:53:34 I would just like to give you a brief summary.
06:53:37 First, with regard to comp plan, as Planning
06:53:45 Commission staff stated they have found it wind.
06:53:48 It's consistent because the zoning district is
06:53:50 allowed in that plan category, number one.
06:53:52 More importantly, number two, what the plan says,
06:53:55 in order to accommodate an additional 93,000
06:53:57 people by 2025, the plan has specific goals and
06:54:02 policies about residential development.
06:54:03 And what it states and I'm summarizing, but to
06:54:06 summarize those policies, it is to use limited
06:54:09 land resources efficiently, to encourage infill on
06:54:13 vacant or underutilized lots, to preserve
06:54:16 neighborhood identity and livability, but new
06:54:19 development be minimally disruptive to the
06:54:23 adjacent areas.
06:54:24 That is a quote.
06:54:26 Like to address each of those.
06:54:27 Clearly development on the underutilized lot where
06:54:30 all the services are there, all the public
06:54:31 utilities, all the roads are in, it's a very good
06:54:34 efficient use of land.
06:54:35 I'll demonstrate to you that this application
06:54:40 preserves the livability of that neighborhood in a
06:54:42 variety of ways.
06:54:42 First of all, the difference between the RS-50 and
06:54:46 RS-60 in terms of use, there is none.
06:54:48 It's exactly the same.
06:54:49 We're not talking about a difference in
06:54:51 single-family and town house or single-family and
06:54:54 duplex.
06:54:54 Single-family is the only use allowed in both of
06:54:58 those districts.
06:54:59 With regard to dimensional differences between the
06:55:02 two, the two districts have the exact same side
06:55:05 setback, exact same rear setback and exact same
06:55:08 height limit.
06:55:09 The difference is in the front yard setback, and
06:55:11 it is a five-foot difference.
06:55:13 We believe the five foot difference will not
06:55:16 generally be noticeable and it will not be a
06:55:18 negative impact on the neighborhood.
06:55:19 We also took a look at the block of San Juan,
06:55:23 north and south side, which the site is located.
06:55:26 Three of the homes in that area, including the
06:55:28 Sweeney home are less than 20 feet and ten of
06:55:31 those homes are less than the 25-foot setbacks.
06:55:34 Again, there is some variety in the setback along
06:55:36 that area, and those houses have existed in
06:55:38 harmony for some time and we do not think that a
06:55:41 20-foot setback if approved would create a
06:55:44 problem.
06:55:44 Lots immediately adjacent to Sweeney property are
06:55:49 50 feet wide.
06:55:51 Four lots immediately to the east of the site are
06:55:53 50 feet lots and a house on each one of the four
06:55:57 lots.
06:55:57 Importantly, at the corner, the Sweeney property
06:56:00 is located at the corner, the other three corners
06:56:03 are also 50-foot lots and a house on the 50-foot
06:56:07 lot.
06:56:07 The block in which the site is located, if
06:56:16 approved, 59% would be nonconforming.
06:56:19 Again, more than half would be the 50-foot size.
06:56:23 Gina talked about the neighborhood.
06:56:24 There are a couple of different studies.
06:56:27 Clearly, there is a mix of the lot size.
06:56:29 Ranges from 40 to 50 percent of conforming,
06:56:33 nonconforming.
06:56:34 Our analysis has shown that the development is the
06:56:37 exact same lot size as the adjacent lots.
06:56:40 It is the same as half, 59% of the block --
06:56:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Tarapani, if you can wrap it up
06:56:47 in 20 seconds or less, that would be great.
06:56:49 >> Yes, sir.
06:56:49 In the neighborhood, there is a range of 41 to
06:56:51 50 percent at that 50-foot size.
06:56:55 Again, there is a varied lot pattern.
06:56:56 We believe that the rezoning is not patently
06:56:59 inconsistent, which is the criteria in your code.
06:57:02 We believe it is consistent and should be
06:57:04 approved.
06:57:04 Happy to answer any questions.
06:57:05 Thank you for your time.
06:57:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
06:57:07 Appreciate it.
06:57:08 Are there any questions of Council for the
06:57:13 petitioner?
06:57:13 Is there anyone in the public that would like to
06:57:17 speak on item number 6, REZ 16-21.
06:57:20 Please line up here.
06:57:24 Anyone else who has not been sworn who wishes to
06:57:30 speak, please stand and be sworn right now.
06:57:37 [oath administered]
06:57:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:57:42 Who is first up.
06:57:44 Okay, come on.
06:57:47 Somebody.
06:57:51 >> Hi.
06:57:51 I'm Kathy Sousa, east sterling circle.
06:57:56 Hi, everybody.
06:57:57 I've been here several times now.
06:57:58 I was here for this a year ago, and we were under,
06:58:10 we thought this would be over with but here we are
06:58:12 again fighting the same house.
06:58:14 I do have a petition signed, and these are the
06:58:18 people that she's talking about, the 50-foot lot
06:58:21 people all the way around this house, signed this.
06:58:25 They don't want two homes on the property.
06:58:27 They just want one.
06:58:28 We really don't want to see the house torn down.
06:58:31 It is a beautiful Spanish house.
06:58:32 It's one of the originals.
06:58:33 I grew up walking past this house on my way to
06:58:37 friendship park.
06:58:38 I'd hate to see it torn down, but I just want one
06:58:41 home.
06:58:41 This neighborhood has very narrow streets.
06:58:44 We already have street flooding.
06:58:46 We're having a problem with the impervious
06:58:50 surfaces.
06:58:50 With two houses, it's going to be two driveways,
06:58:53 two swimming pools or whatever they decide to do,
06:58:56 it's two.
06:58:57 And it's not -- it's eight people in the house.
06:59:00 These homes are being built with three bedrooms or
06:59:03 more.
06:59:04 That's eight people on a property that was only
06:59:07 either two people or four people, so you are
06:59:10 putting a drain on our services.
06:59:14 Again, the street is very narrow.
06:59:15 A lot of people are parking on the street.
06:59:17 A lot of these older homes only have one driveway.
06:59:20 They park one car in the street or a boat in the
06:59:24 street and when you go to add two more homes to
06:59:26 it, it's just more traffic.
06:59:28 People can't walk their dogs in the street.
06:59:31 They are getting run over, children trying to go
06:59:33 to the playground.
06:59:34 This neighborhood is RS 60.
06:59:38 We fought for RS 60.
06:59:40 I don't understand why we have to keep coming back
06:59:42 and fighting for something we already fought for a
06:59:45 few years ago.
06:59:46 We wanted RS 60.
06:59:47 We want nod more smaller homes squooshed into the
06:59:50 area.
06:59:51 The reason everybody wants this area is because of
06:59:53 Plant High School.
06:59:54 The builders could go on the other side of Gandy
06:59:57 where there are plenty of lots over there that
06:59:59 need bringing up.
07:00:00 This neighborhood is highly sought after by the
07:00:03 builders.
07:00:03 The builders are targeting my house.
07:00:05 Every single day I get a letter saying we'd like
07:00:08 to buy your home, no closing costs.
07:00:11 They want to lowball the property and split and
07:00:15 tell two homes that are 600, 700 and 800 thousand
07:00:19 dollars.
07:00:20 I want to cite that under land use and
07:00:25 single-family chapter 26.1.2, preserve the
07:00:27 character of the single-family home residences and
07:00:30 discourage the demolition of single-family
07:00:32 residences.
07:00:33 Under 26.1.5, maintain the current density and the
07:00:39 characteristic of the existing single-family
07:00:41 areas.
07:00:42 In chapter 4 of the City of Tampa comprehensive
07:00:46 plan, policy 23.2.4, a plan to reflect the
07:00:51 neighborhood's history, character, current
07:00:53 conditions, values, visions and goals, opportunity
07:00:58 honoring residents' sense of identity --
07:01:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ma'am, I'll let you finish that
07:01:02 sentence.
07:01:04 >> That the city will help residents preserve
07:01:08 their specialness and will not use a
07:01:11 one-size-fits-all approach.
07:01:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could, if you want to put that
07:01:15 petition into the record is that a copy that we
07:01:17 can keep?
07:01:18 >> Yes.
07:01:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you can please give it to our
07:01:21 attorney, I appreciate it.
07:01:22 Thank you.
07:01:23 Next, please.
07:01:25 >> Good evening, Council members.
07:01:27 My name is Heather depalma.
07:01:29 And I've been sworn in.
07:01:30 I reside at 4119 West San Juan Street, same block
07:01:38 Ms. Sweeney lives on.
07:01:39 When Ms. Sweeney purchased her home, she did know
07:01:44 it was RS 60.
07:01:46 And I do oppose two houses on this lot due to the
07:01:49 fact that is our current policy.
07:01:51 A major concern of the area residents, as you've
07:01:54 heard tonight is the practice of allowing a few
07:01:57 individuals to sidestep this rule and causing our
07:02:01 density to increase through rezoning and setback
07:02:04 variances.
07:02:04 This trend has many negative implications on our
07:02:09 neighborhood in the way that we see it.
07:02:11 It places greater on our existing infrastructure,
07:02:16 such as waterlines, schools, roads and so on.
07:02:19 It continues to impact the safety of our streets.
07:02:23 We already have too many cars parked on our narrow
07:02:26 streets making it difficult to travel through,
07:02:28 slowing larger emergency response vehicles and
07:02:32 making it hazardous for families to walk through
07:02:34 the areas, making it dangerous for children to
07:02:38 play.
07:02:38 I remind everyone, as we heard earlier, that this
07:02:44 is within half block of a park, friendship park.
07:02:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I apologize.
07:02:53 Continue.
07:02:53 >> More homes in our neighborhood will increase
07:02:58 the street flooding, reduction of pervious
07:03:03 surfaces.
07:03:05 More homes where they don't belong will only
07:03:08 continue to reduce the space between our homes
07:03:11 creating smaller, more crowded lots.
07:03:13 Ultimately, the practice makes this a much less
07:03:16 desirable and much less safe place to live.
07:03:18 In the larger picture, yes, I wish that the
07:03:23 Council and builders would abide the current
07:03:26 zoning instead of asking and approving so many
07:03:29 variances.
07:03:29 Again, I'm not asking to stop a new home from
07:03:32 being built on this lot.
07:03:34 I'm just asking to you listen to the wishes of
07:03:37 several of your constituents as reflected in our
07:03:40 voices, letters, signatures, and show us that you
07:03:42 hear what we are asking for by abiding to the
07:03:45 current zoning laws of our neighborhood and
07:03:47 denying this variance request.
07:03:49 Thank you for your time.
07:03:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Before you go, I just want to
07:03:57 clarify, because you used the word variances many,
07:04:00 many times.
07:04:02 And --
07:04:03 >> Rezoning, sorry.
07:04:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: This is a rezoning.
07:04:09 They are not asking for any waivers.
07:04:11 They are not asking for any variances.
07:04:13 I want to make sure we were straight.
07:04:15 >> I was stuck on a year ago.
07:04:17 I'm sorry.
07:04:18 You know what will happen if this gets approved.
07:04:27 If you look back a year ago, we might have been
07:04:31 able to save the house.
07:04:32 And the parking has come up, second speaker, but
07:04:35 you also mentioned.
07:04:37 I'm sure we'll hear it again.
07:04:39 The people who are parking on the street, are they
07:04:47 people like they live on the street?
07:04:50 >> People that live on the street but also
07:04:52 visitors to the park.
07:04:53 It's a very condense area because that park is
07:04:56 very popular.
07:04:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: People parking on the street to
07:05:00 go to the park.
07:05:03 Coming from outside your neighborhood.
07:05:04 Not residents --
07:05:05 >> No, there are also residents parking on the
07:05:07 street.
07:05:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Do we have signs?
07:05:10 I'm just asking because I see them in different
07:05:13 areas of south Tampa.
07:05:14 Not my neighborhood but different areas of south
07:05:17 Tampa, signs that say five-minute parking.
07:05:19 Do you have any of those?
07:05:21 >> I don't know.
07:05:21 I know some right --
07:05:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm just suggesting you might
07:05:25 want to contact the city and get some of those
07:05:28 signs.
07:05:28 >> Thank you very much.
07:05:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Next, please.
07:05:31 >> Good evening.
07:05:32 Debra Holloway.
07:05:34 I've been sworn in.
07:05:35 4114 West San Juan Street, same block that
07:05:37 Ms. Sweeney resides in.
07:05:39 I'd like to point out this is the third time I
07:05:41 stand before you in opposition to yet another
07:05:44 request of the same probability by mark Mobley and
07:05:46 Lucie Sweeney.
07:05:47 The previous times were opposition to a planned
07:05:49 development which already have been mentioned
07:05:51 tonight.
07:05:51 In the transcripts from the August 2014 Tampa City
07:05:54 Council meeting, Mr. Mobley said the request was
07:05:56 in preserving the historic house and not asking to
07:05:59 build two homes on this lot with the latest
07:06:02 variance request.
07:06:04 I'm sorry.
07:06:07 Now he wants to build two homes on the lot with
07:06:09 the latest variance request.
07:06:10 Ms. Sweeney also stood before us and told us how
07:06:13 she wanted to preserve her home and the history in
07:06:16 the neighborhood.
07:06:16 Ironic, year and a half later, she's now willing
07:06:19 to tear down her, quote, beautiful Spanish
07:06:22 bungalow that she had so much sentimental value in
07:06:26 in order to two build homes.
07:06:28 We're currently zoned RS 60 and for a reason.
07:06:31 When Ms. Sweeney purchased her house, she did so
07:06:34 knowing it was RS 60.
07:06:35 I oppose two houses on the lot for the simple
07:06:38 reason we are RS 60.
07:06:39 This is the rule.
07:06:40 I realize there are multiple 50-foot lots in our
07:06:42 neighborhood but the majority of them on our block
07:06:44 were prior to RS 60.
07:06:46 Maybe Mr. Mobley and the other builder abide by
07:06:50 the current zoning instead of bending these rules
07:06:53 by continuing to have us come here and oppose
07:06:55 them, which is only benefiting them as the current
07:06:58 owners, we wouldn't be here.
07:07:00 As simple as that.
07:07:01 Don't break the rules.
07:07:02 Two houses is one too many for this lot.
07:07:05 Thank you.
07:07:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
07:07:06 Next.
07:07:07 >> Good evening.
07:07:08 My name is Joe Faulk.
07:07:09 I have been sworn in.
07:07:11 I reside at 4121 West San Juan Street.
07:07:15 The house adjacent to the property in question
07:07:16 tonight.
07:07:17 Before I begin, thank Mary Samaniego and viola
07:07:22 Luke.
07:07:23 The 44 years of service, research tech right here
07:07:26 in the city clerk's office.
07:07:27 She was very helpful today, so I really appreciate
07:07:29 her help.
07:07:30 It was excellent.
07:07:31 For the record, my wife Kimberly nor I have issue
07:07:35 with Ms. Sweeney demolishing her, we look it up,
07:07:39 charming Mediterranean house.
07:07:41 The property is in disrepair and, quite frankly,
07:07:43 is an eyesore for our neighborhood.
07:07:45 My greatest takeaway from Ms. Feeley's report is
07:07:48 that all structures on the property will have to
07:07:50 removed.
07:07:51 February 19, 1987, the City Council approved
07:07:54 ordinance 9533-8.
07:07:57 This forward-thinking rezoning of the south
07:07:59 quadrant of Tampa required houses in our
07:08:01 neighborhood, Marilyn manor, be reclassified as RS
07:08:05 60.
07:08:06 Ironically, we have Ms. Gina Grimes to thank for
07:08:08 the preparation and approval of these standards.
07:08:10 Without her efforts, we might not be here today to
07:08:13 talk about this RS 60 zoning.
07:08:16 A few months ago, a house sat on the corner of
07:08:21 San Pedro and Lois and was in similar disrepair to
07:08:24 that of Ms. Sweeney's.
07:08:26 Instead of tearing it down and getting a variance,
07:08:28 squeezing two houses on the property, the builder
07:08:31 built one beautiful house on the 100 by 100 lot.
07:08:35 It's beautiful.
07:08:36 It's a gorgeous house.
07:08:37 Make sure you guys know, 100 by 100 lots do afford
07:08:41 beautiful houses if your builder wants to do so.
07:08:44 Those in san Pedro are very happy because the
07:08:47 single property had more of a positive effect on
07:08:50 their property values than the two smaller houses
07:08:52 would have had.
07:08:52 Over the past five years, the Council has approved
07:08:55 16 rezoning applications from RS 60 to RS 50
07:08:59 throughout the City of Tampa.
07:09:00 Not just in our neighborhood, throughout the City
07:09:02 of Tampa.
07:09:03 I guess, when will it stop?
07:09:05 People moving to neighborhoods in part due to
07:09:08 their character.
07:09:09 Why bother even having an ordinance in place if
07:09:12 residents in a neighborhood can't rely on it to
07:09:14 protect the charm of their neighborhood?
07:09:16 All we are asking is simple, to uphold the
07:09:19 guidelines of 9533-A and not approve application
07:09:22 REZ 16-21.
07:09:25 Thank you for your time.
07:09:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
07:09:29 Next, please.
07:09:32 >> My name is Eugene Sustek.
07:09:36 4117 west --
07:09:43 I've been in this neighborhood 53 years.
07:09:48 My property is 75 feet, and it's small.
07:09:54 So how small is 50-foot?
07:09:57 You can reach out of the side of the house and
07:10:01 touch your neighbor.
07:10:03 It's not what we want.
07:10:04 We want a little bit of land around our houses.
07:10:09 I was here a year ago fighting this same thing on
07:10:14 a 49-foot lot, and it was turned down.
07:10:19 Now we're back to the same property for two
07:10:24 50-foot lots.
07:10:25 What does it take to tell the builders that we
07:10:30 don't want 50-foot lots.
07:10:35 We want at least 60.
07:10:37 And you go along the other side of us, it's 75 and
07:10:41 it's a hundred.
07:10:43 Why don't they build it over there, because they
07:10:46 can come here and ask for a variance to build two
07:10:51 50-foot lots.
07:10:52 We've had 61 signatures in that general
07:10:59 neighborhood that don't want 50-foot lots with two
07:11:04 houses on it.
07:11:05 That little old Spanish house has been there for
07:11:10 80 years.
07:11:11 And all of a sudden it ain't no good anymore.
07:11:15 We've got to tear it down, and we've got to build
07:11:19 two.
07:11:20 So I hope you take that into consideration and
07:11:25 keep our lots 60-foot.
07:11:27 Thank you.
07:11:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
07:11:30 Next, please.
07:11:31 >> Good evening.
07:11:33 My name is Jim Holloway.
07:11:35 I reside at 4114 West San Juan Street.
07:11:39 I heard Ms. Grimes and her expert speak of the 80%
07:11:45 rule.
07:11:46 It's my understanding that rule is no longer in
07:11:49 effect.
07:11:49 I reckon there is a reason that rule is no longer
07:11:51 in effect.
07:11:52 We are zoned RS 60.
07:11:56 Quite frankly, if this board is inclined to grant
07:11:59 this petition, I feel duped.
07:12:02 I bought my house relying on RS 60 zoning, only to
07:12:06 find out it meant nothing at all.
07:12:08 It has no effect.
07:12:12 This board is inclined to rubber stamp, years I
07:12:16 can tell in my neighborhood, nearly every request
07:12:19 gets approved.
07:12:20 Does RS 60 have any meaning or is it just a
07:12:24 meaningless classification?
07:12:25 Ask yourself.
07:12:28 Thank you.
07:12:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
07:12:29 Anyone else in the public who would like to speak
07:12:31 on this item, number 6, REZ 16-21?
07:12:35 Ms. Grimes.
07:12:45 >> Gina Grimes.
07:12:47 Just a few brief comments.
07:12:49 The last speaker said that there is a reason that
07:12:52 the 80% rule is no longer in effect.
07:12:54 And he's right.
07:12:55 The reason is that the Council felt like you
07:12:58 shouldn't be able to go through and use the 80%
07:13:02 rule to effectuate a zoning, a rezoning.
07:13:04 You should have to go through this rezoning
07:13:06 process.
07:13:07 That's, in fact, what we're doing here today.
07:13:09 It wasn't that you shouldn't ever be able to
07:13:11 change the designation of the property from 60 to
07:13:14 50.
07:13:14 It was just that it should go through a rezoning
07:13:17 process.
07:13:17 A couple of the speakers or most of the speakers
07:13:22 talked about the density and feeling like putting
07:13:24 two homes on this one, where one home exists now
07:13:29 on these two lots would make it too dense.
07:13:32 That's simply not the case.
07:13:34 Both the Planning Commission and your staff has
07:13:36 said that it is consistent with the comp plan
07:13:39 density requirements, and that's where they are,
07:13:41 in fact, imposed is through the comprehensive
07:13:44 plan.
07:13:44 Mr. Faulk, and it's a bit awkward because
07:13:49 Mr. Faulk and my son went through all of
07:13:53 elementary school together, and I think he was
07:13:54 also my son Jerry's Cub Scout leader, so I've
07:13:58 known him for a long time, and I say all this, and
07:14:01 I feel awkward about it, but really, what I don't
07:14:05 understand is how someone who lives in a home on a
07:14:10 50-foot lot that was developed after RS 60 went
07:14:14 into effect can oppose someone else living next
07:14:17 door and doing the very same thing.
07:14:20 It's like being an immigrant and then saying you
07:14:23 think we should build a wall around our borders.
07:14:26 It's not right and it's not fair.
07:14:28 And all Ms. Sweeney is asking for is to be able to
07:14:32 avail herself of the same opportunities that the
07:14:36 Faulks were given and the depalmas were given.
07:14:40 Mr. Faulk made the point that you could have a
07:14:42 large home on a 100-foot lot, that there was one
07:14:47 that was just recently built at san Pedro and
07:14:50 Lois.
07:14:51 And while that is the case, technically you
07:14:53 actually have more open space if you have two
07:14:57 homes on two 50-foot lots.
07:14:59 You could have someone on a 100-foot lot build
07:15:03 setback to setback, front, side to side, front to
07:15:06 rear, and you have no space in between whereas if
07:15:09 that one 100-foot lot was divided into two 50s,
07:15:14 then you would have 14 feet of setback in between
07:15:16 those two houses.
07:15:17 In fact, you end up with more open space when you
07:15:20 have a lot split and you have two homes instead of
07:15:22 one.
07:15:23 So I'm not going to belabor it anymore.
07:15:28 It's clear that there is no set development
07:15:30 pattern in this neighborhood or character in this
07:15:32 neighborhood.
07:15:33 It is a clear mix of 50 and 60-foot lots.
07:15:36 And even all ranges in between there.
07:15:39 The Planning Commission has said it's consistent
07:15:43 with the comp plan.
07:15:44 Your staff has said it's consistent with the Land
07:15:46 Development code.
07:15:48 We have shown that it has been used repeatedly,
07:15:51 the 50-foot lots, have been split repeatedly
07:15:57 throughout this area, and, again, we're just
07:16:00 asking for the same opportunities that others have
07:16:03 been given in this area to build a home.
07:16:06 And just in closing, because when I went out to
07:16:08 the site, I was very much impressed.
07:16:12 What we want to do is basically what our neighbors
07:16:15 have.
07:16:15 This is Mr. Faulk's house next door to
07:16:18 Ms. Sweeney's.
07:16:19 It's a beautiful home.
07:16:20 It looks in keeping with the neighborhood.
07:16:23 This is the one next to him that's slightly
07:16:26 larger.
07:16:26 It likewise is beautiful.
07:16:28 It's a beautiful home.
07:16:29 Again, we're just trying to do the same thing.
07:16:31 The proposed homes will be somewhere in between
07:16:33 these two sizes, and it doesn't look out of
07:16:36 character or out of skill with the smaller home
07:16:38 next door.
07:16:39 So, again, what we're asking for is consistent
07:16:43 with what's been done repeatedly in this area, and
07:16:46 we would request your approval of this rezoning to
07:16:49 RS 50.
07:16:50 Thank you.
07:16:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:16:52 What is the pleasure, Council?
07:16:53 Ms. Capin, you are next.
07:16:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Move to close.
07:16:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I have a question.
07:16:59 Ms. Grimes, the second tab in your presentation
07:17:04 binder has a survey in it.
07:17:06 >> Yes.
07:17:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The survey is dated
07:17:08 March 31st, 2014.
07:17:10 >> Right.
07:17:10 It's from the last rezoning.
07:17:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: This is from the last rezoning.
07:17:14 I was a little confused because it shows the
07:17:16 division of the lots with the existing home
07:17:18 remaining.
07:17:21 >> It's an as-built survey that's there right now.
07:17:35 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I guess I'm asking about the
07:17:36 preservation of the home.
07:17:45 If this is approved somebody will go pull a demo
07:17:51 permit and the demo permit is going to be approved
07:17:53 because it's not in an historic district, correct?
07:18:02 >> I want to add, too, when Ms. Sweeney bought
07:18:05 this, she intended to keep the home.
07:18:08 She testified she lived in the neighborhood for
07:18:10 years, and that was her goal.
07:18:13 It's just a survey.
07:18:17 I included it to show you what was there now.
07:18:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
07:18:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions or comments
07:18:22 before we take a motion to close?
07:18:28 >>HARRY COHEN: I just want to just make a couple
07:18:32 of comments based on the history of this property
07:18:34 and also some of the comments that were made here
07:18:38 tonight.
07:18:38 First of all, I don't think that we rubber stamp
07:18:43 at all.
07:18:44 As a matter of fact, we go both ways on these
07:18:48 issues.
07:18:48 Every single meeting that we have.
07:18:50 Sometimes we allow the lot splits and sometimes we
07:18:54 don't allow the lot splits.
07:18:58 You know, they all raise very difficult questions,
07:19:01 and they are some of the most challenging cases
07:19:05 that we have.
07:19:06 I remember when we looked at this a little over a
07:19:10 year ago at the time.
07:19:16 If I stray too far Mr. Attorney or madam attorney,
07:19:19 please let me know.
07:19:21 But at the time, the proposal was to keep the
07:19:24 house and there was no ability to agree on
07:19:27 maintaining the setbacks, and that's why we were
07:19:30 unable to go forward, and we ended up denying the
07:19:36 application, if I remember correctly.
07:19:38 I think the thought was that if there was going to
07:19:43 be a second house, it was going to have to be
07:19:46 quite a bit smaller in order to compensate for the
07:19:48 fact that the original house was very close to the
07:19:53 property line or actually right on it.
07:19:55 I agree with Councilwoman Montelione, though.
07:19:59 I'm very unhappy to see what I consider to be an
07:20:04 historic house with a lot of charm and
07:20:06 authenticity go.
07:20:07 That said, my concern here, and perhaps this is
07:20:17 for Ms. Feeley or Mr. Hay.
07:20:19 My main concern about the analysis that we do of
07:20:23 what's conforming and what's not conforming is
07:20:29 that we change the game every time we make one of
07:20:31 these decisions.
07:20:33 Because the next time something comes in this
07:20:35 neighborhood, the map will look a little bit
07:20:38 different and a little bit different depending on
07:20:41 what we do.
07:20:42 Our actions have the cumulative effect of changing
07:20:44 the neighborhood as we go.
07:20:47 I'd like to answer the question that's being
07:20:50 raised by some of our speakers.
07:20:52 What does RS 60 mean if once we get beyond 50%
07:20:57 nonconforming, we're going to start relying on
07:21:02 that to change more and more properties.
07:21:07 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
07:21:11 Mr. Hay pointed out that it was my map so I should
07:21:16 answer the question.
07:21:17 Tonight, I showed you those calculations I
07:21:20 performed, the hand calculations, because to me
07:21:23 red and blue meant a lot of different things on
07:21:26 what those dimensions actually were.
07:21:29 That analysis provides you with a snapshot in time
07:21:32 of what the development pattern is.
07:21:37 You know, that's the way that we presented it to
07:21:41 you from ten years ago when I started processing
07:21:47 rezoning before you.
07:21:48 Maybe there is a better way.
07:21:51 Maybe there's something else we need to take into
07:21:54 consideration what was done under the policy and
07:21:58 how it was formulated was to provide for you what
07:22:02 the existing development pattern of the area was.
07:22:07 As we know, that changes.
07:22:09 I can show you a Kennedy Boulevard that has a
07:22:12 different development pattern.
07:22:13 It is only a snapshot in time of an existing
07:22:18 development pattern of that area.
07:22:21 And, unfortunately, as we know from a planning
07:22:24 perspective, existing could change tomorrow.
07:22:28 So I can't, you know, those four 75-foot lots I
07:22:32 showed you southwest of this, that could possibly
07:22:36 become some 60s and some other changes.
07:22:39 There are changes that could also occur in this
07:22:41 area that would conform to the RS 60 but could
07:22:45 shift a lot line.
07:22:46 I hear what you're saying in relation to what is
07:22:52 RS-60.
07:22:53 I provided for you how we do that analysis.
07:22:55 I'm open to suggestions on how we might provide
07:22:58 you something different or show you what --
07:23:01 interesting enough, what Ms. Grimes provided
07:23:03 tonight by doing the deeds was because it is kind
07:23:08 of visually obtrusive, because you say, oh, RS-60.
07:23:15 There's never been a rezoning in this area.
07:23:17 There wasn't a rezoning, but there was the 80%
07:23:19 rule, and those don't go on the atlas sheet, so I
07:23:22 can't show them to you that way.
07:23:24 I could have put all the V numbers.
07:23:26 Those cases were special use 2s that did come
07:23:29 before you.
07:23:30 I could go back and put all those V number, FU 2
07:23:35 used to be V files and they would have been V
07:23:38 files in that year.
07:23:39 I can go back and put all the V files on there and
07:23:41 confirm for you what she said was, in fact, that
07:23:44 was VO859.
07:23:48 VO962.
07:23:51 Special uses aren't shown that way but that would
07:23:55 be another visual depiction to provide you the
07:23:58 snapshot that, yes, these were executed under the
07:24:01 80% rule.
07:24:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anything else, Mr. Cohen?
07:24:05 Ms. Montelione.
07:24:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Ms. Feeley, when zoning
07:24:08 conformance occurs, the area that was designated
07:24:17 in a particular zoning district was much larger
07:24:20 than what we look at on these red-blue maps or
07:24:25 even what we look at in a staff report on the
07:24:29 zoning map that you give in staff reports.
07:24:34 So it's possible, yes or no, it became RS-60 in
07:24:40 this area because when looking at the much larger
07:24:43 picture, there was more consistency than in what
07:24:49 this close-up map is showing us.
07:24:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Yes.
07:24:52 It actually changes north of Bay to Bay, RS 100.
07:24:56 And then south, there are RS 50 sections.
07:25:02 I can't -- zoning conformance was done on a
07:25:06 citywide basis but done quadrant by quadrant in
07:25:08 the city.
07:25:09 I would have to pull in each of the areas on maps
07:25:11 and show you.
07:25:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So when zoning conformance
07:25:14 occurred, was the direction of the city to look
07:25:23 for higher density the closer you got to the city
07:25:28 core?
07:25:28 I bring that up because when we talk about, you
07:25:31 know, transit and density, I mean, did that come
07:25:35 into play in the decision making of zoning
07:25:37 conformance?
07:25:38 Because what I guess I'm asking is philosophically
07:25:45 when RS 60 was set through zoning conformance in
07:25:50 this area, was the philosophy of the city to
07:25:55 encourage density, or was it just to bring some
07:26:02 uniformity to certain areas?
07:26:06 >>JULIA MANDELL: I'm not here as the City
07:26:09 Attorney.
07:26:10 I really am covering the meeting for Rebecca Kert
07:26:13 who could not be here tonight.
07:26:15 It's very much fun for me to be back.
07:26:21 -- through my tenure handling the land use
07:26:23 meetings, and it's always been my understanding
07:26:25 the way the city did zoning conformance was when
07:26:29 it went through the process of changing the -- or
07:26:32 creating comprehensive plan as required by Florida
07:26:34 statute and then the obligation to then go and
07:26:37 change the zoning classification to recognize what
07:26:40 was in the comprehensive plan, it wasn't done in a
07:26:45 formal fashion to try and create areas of
07:26:48 additional density or create areas of less
07:26:50 density.
07:26:51 It wasn't looked at from that kind of long-range
07:26:54 planning perspective.
07:26:55 It really was intended to recognize either
07:26:58 existing development patterns or to recognize that
07:27:02 certain neighborhoods had a desire to have a
07:27:05 certain level of a development pattern.
07:27:07 So when you go all over, especially south Tampa
07:27:10 but other areas of the city, you'll see areas and
07:27:13 that's why the 80% rule was created.
07:27:16 You'll see areas where there is a mix of lots,
07:27:20 especially when you are looking at platted lots,
07:27:23 platted 50 feet, 60 feet, 75-foot, 100-foot, where
07:27:29 maybe you had areas where there was everybody
07:27:32 developed on two or three platted lots, and those
07:27:35 areas wanted to be recognized as being a
07:27:39 neighborhood where houses were developed on two or
07:27:41 three platted lots versus other areas that had a
07:27:44 mix of development patterns.
07:27:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Over time since the '80s to
07:27:50 now, I think -- and correct me if I'm wrong --
07:27:54 that the philosophy has entered more into the
07:28:01 picture, in the arena of when we're looking at
07:28:07 community rezonings.
07:28:09 So when we rezoned, did a community rezoning for
07:28:13 Seminole Heights and shifted to the form-based
07:28:16 code, that's reflective of a new philosophy in
07:28:20 zoning.
07:28:20 >>JULIA MANDELL: I would agree with that.
07:28:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: To get to what does RS 60
07:28:27 really mean, yes or no, I mean, it means -- it
07:28:32 meant something different in the '80s than it
07:28:34 does today.
07:28:35 >>JULIA MANDELL: I'm not sure I would say it means
07:28:37 something different in the '80s than it meant
07:28:39 today.
07:28:40 I just mean when we went through zoning
07:28:42 conformance and put in 80% rule --
07:28:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We weren't taking into
07:28:48 consideration --
07:28:49 >>JULIA MANDELL: Of a larger --
07:28:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Density for transit.
07:28:52 >>JULIA MANDELL: No, not that kind of
07:28:53 consideration.
07:28:53 We were trying to allow recognition of what was
07:28:56 there and also the idea that certain areas had a
07:28:59 mix of lot size.
07:29:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The way I look at this, and in
07:29:05 many of the cases when it comes up is one of the
07:29:08 maps Ms. Grimes did about the intersection,
07:29:10 because that's what I usually always look at, and
07:29:13 it's more in that form-based zoning kind of
07:29:17 mind-set.
07:29:17 Is that the intersections higher density and then
07:29:21 as you get into the neighborhoods, it's the lower
07:29:24 density.
07:29:25 And it plays out not just in this area but in a
07:29:29 lot of areas, I think, where the intersections
07:29:31 along the roadway corridors show a higher density
07:29:36 with smaller lots than as you get into the block.
07:29:42 And that's repeated here again.
07:29:48 The intersections show the smaller lot sizes than
07:29:53 the interior lots.
07:29:55 That's just the way I am looking at it.
07:30:01 Thank you.
07:30:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Miranda.
07:30:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
07:30:04 I really appreciate the good people who spoke here
07:30:09 regarding possible changes in their neighborhood.
07:30:12 And every neighborhood has certain concerns.
07:30:17 In mine, there was no football stadium.
07:30:19 There was no baseball stadium.
07:30:21 In fact, MacDill Avenue didn't go through to
07:30:25 then -- to now MLK when I first bought the house
07:30:28 in 1964.
07:30:30 The same houses are there.
07:30:32 And there was no hospital.
07:30:35 Seven houses across the street from us.
07:30:40 Now there's a mall.
07:30:42 Tampa Bay mall.
07:30:43 The mall is gone.
07:30:44 There was a practice field for football.
07:30:46 It really doesn't bother me.
07:30:48 I just change the windows and I don't hear
07:30:50 anything.
07:30:50 But changes in lifestyle happens when you start
07:30:55 having air conditioning, you people know each
07:30:59 other because you're together.
07:31:01 A lot of places, you don't even know who your
07:31:03 neighbor is.
07:31:04 I'm very proud of each and every one of.
07:31:07 When you look around and understand that not only
07:31:11 seven houses gone but from MacDill to Armenia
07:31:14 on two roads, St. Isabelle and Virginia, all the
07:31:19 houses are gone.
07:31:21 There's a lot of mainly doctors offices, vacant
07:31:25 lots, and the whole neighborhood was destroyed
07:31:27 from people living --
07:31:34 I wish I was in your shoes.
07:31:36 I wish I could have a hundred 50-foot lots in
07:31:40 front of me.
07:31:41 I don't have that.
07:31:41 What I do have is the possibility of cars in a
07:31:51 parking lot.
07:31:51 What I'm saying is sometimes when you look around,
07:31:54 time doesn't change.
07:31:55 People change only, I think, in my mind, maybe I'm
07:31:59 too practical, because of necessities around them.
07:32:02 I heard a statement of 95,000 people coming in 25
07:32:06 years.
07:32:06 I think they are wrong.
07:32:07 Hillsborough County by the calculations of water
07:32:10 supply that's needed, 425,000 people in the next
07:32:16 25 years in Hillsborough County.
07:32:17 And I would venture to say 35 to 40 percent are
07:32:21 moving into the City of Tampa.
07:32:23 So what we have, we better start planning for
07:32:28 roadways, for transit, for the upkeep of what we
07:32:31 have, and we really haven't addressed those
07:32:34 things.
07:32:34 All we've done mainly is cut ribbons and yell how
07:32:39 wonderful we're doing.
07:32:40 Yes, that's good.
07:32:41 You see it's good because the tax base will be
07:32:45 shared by others that are here and others that are
07:32:48 not here.
07:32:49 So, therefore, if we had grown, you know, any
07:32:54 business that doesn't grow, satisfied with status
07:32:58 quo, in a business, you are actually dying,
07:33:00 because your customers are dying.
07:33:03 And in this life that we live in, I'd give
07:33:06 anything to live in your neighborhood because what
07:33:10 I see.
07:33:12 Chairman, I'm just speaking because I understand
07:33:17 the frustration of these good neighbors, and I
07:33:20 want them to understand it's not just them, it's
07:33:22 all of us are in the same boat.
07:33:24 People come here not because we have a good City
07:33:26 Council.
07:33:27 For only two reasons.
07:33:28 I don't care what the politicians tell you.
07:33:30 You know what they are?
07:33:31 Only have two seasons -- summer and Christmas.
07:33:35 [ LAUGHTER ]
07:33:35 And that's how it is.
07:33:37 You have to have an education, a workable
07:33:41 workforce and businesses will come and
07:33:44 opportunities will happen.
07:33:45 But we want to have to change a little bit in the
07:33:48 way we think and in our lifestyle, because they
07:33:51 are coming, not only from without, but from
07:33:54 within.
07:33:56 In 1964, I had little kids.
07:33:58 Now I've got grandkids that are over 23 years old.
07:34:02 I myself am only 40.
07:34:03 [ LAUGHTER ]
07:34:04 When these things happen, you have to realize that
07:34:08 it's going to happen and they are all becoming
07:34:10 childbearing age.
07:34:12 From 2 we've grown to 13.
07:34:15 From those 13 we're going to more than double.
07:34:18 It's a multiplier effect.
07:34:20 Heck, when I was a kid, people my age were dead.
07:34:23 Lifestyle wasn't supposed to be my age at 40.
07:34:29 So all these things are happening, but I'm very
07:34:32 proud of what you're saying and your statements
07:34:35 that were made because you're a unit that wants to
07:34:40 stick together and have the best for your kids and
07:34:42 grandkids.
07:34:43 I'm really appreciative of that.
07:34:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, Mr. Miranda.
07:34:45 Any other questions or comments from Council?
07:34:47 Okay.
07:34:48 Do I have a motion to close?
07:34:51 Motion from Ms. Montelione.
07:34:53 Second from Ms. Capin.
07:34:54 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
07:34:56 saying aye.
07:34:57 Any opposed?
07:34:58 Thank you.
07:34:59 Ms. Capin, you are next, will you take that.
07:35:02 Number 6.
07:35:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: An ordinance being presented for
07:35:06 first reading consideration, ordinance rezoning
07:35:08 property in the general vicinity of 4125 West
07:35:11 San Juan Street in the City of Tampa, Florida,
07:35:13 more particularly described in section 1 from
07:35:15 zoning district classification RS-60 to
07:35:20 residential single-family to RS-50, residential
07:35:23 single-family, providing an effective date.
07:35:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Ms. Capin.
07:35:28 A second from Ms. Montelione.
07:35:29 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
07:35:31 saying aye.
07:35:33 Any opposed?
07:35:36 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Cohen and Suarez
07:35:38 voting no.
07:35:40 Second reading and adoption will be on May 5th
07:35:42 at 9:30 a.m.
07:35:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much for attending.
07:35:45 Next up is item number 9.
07:35:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you.
07:35:53 Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
07:35:55 Item number 9 on your agenda this evening is REZ
07:36:00 16-24, located at 6501 and 6505 North Adriana
07:36:05 Street and 103 West Diana Street.
07:36:07 The request before you is Euclidean zoning request
07:36:11 from SH-RS Seminole Heights residential
07:36:15 single-family to SH-RM Seminole Heights
07:36:18 residential multifamily.
07:36:24 >> Good evening, Council members, David Hay with
07:36:27 your Planning Commission staff.
07:36:28 I have been sworn.
07:36:31 Moving to the central Tampa planning district for
07:36:34 the next case located at the northeast corner of
07:36:37 North Adriana Street and West Diana Street.
07:36:42 .4-acre subject site.
07:36:45 It is located within the Seminole Heights urban
07:36:48 village.
07:36:48 It is located within proximity to transit along
07:36:56 Hart's route one connecting the site to a number
07:36:59 of the activity centers, University of South
07:37:00 Florida and downtown Tampa.
07:37:02 The closest public recreational facility, American
07:37:06 legion park is located approximately .4 miles to
07:37:09 the northeast of the subject site and also the
07:37:12 subject site is not located within an evacuation
07:37:14 zone.
07:37:15 On to the aerial, the subject site is right in the
07:37:20 middle here.
07:37:21 We have Diana Street to the south.
07:37:24 Adriana Avenue over to the west.
07:37:27 Here is north Florida Avenue.
07:37:29 From the aerial, you can really see, you've got
07:37:32 predominantly commercial uses along Florida Avenue
07:37:36 and then mostly single-family detached uses in the
07:37:40 residential portion behind the commercial.
07:37:43 On to the future land use map.
07:37:48 Again, the subject site, there is a little pocket
07:37:52 here.
07:37:53 The subject site and the properties to the north
07:37:55 are all in that community mixed use 35.
07:37:59 Then the tan color kind of surrounds it on three
07:38:04 sides, the residential 10.
07:38:07 And then you can see the commercial activity
07:38:09 represented by the community commercial 35
07:38:13 centered along Florida Avenue.
07:38:15 The immediate area surrounding the subject site is
07:38:19 characterized by that single-family residential
07:38:22 home as well as that major commercial corridor
07:38:24 along Florida Avenue.
07:38:26 Because there are existing commercial uses along
07:38:29 Florida Avenue corridor for miles in each
07:38:32 direction, the street is considered an established
07:38:34 commercial corridor within the City of Tampa.
07:38:37 Specifically Florida Avenue is considered a
07:38:39 transit emphasis corridor as well as a mixed use
07:38:43 corridor, which the Tampa comprehensive plan
07:38:45 outlines as suitable for redevelopment and
07:38:48 intensification.
07:38:49 Currently, the subject property is vacant and
07:38:52 undeveloped and a new multifamily residential
07:38:55 project would be considered infill.
07:38:58 Infill development on vacant and underutilized
07:39:01 sites is encouraged by the Tampa comprehensive
07:39:03 plan.
07:39:04 The site is in the community mixed use-35 future
07:39:07 land use category and considering its location
07:39:09 between the residential 10 and that community
07:39:12 commercial 35 future land use category, a
07:39:17 multifamily residential use would be considered a
07:39:20 sensitive transition between the commercial
07:39:23 corridor along Florida Avenue and the residential
07:39:26 uses to the west.
07:39:27 In conclusion, Planning Commission staff finds
07:39:29 that the proposed development of the site with
07:39:32 multifamily residential units will represent a
07:39:34 sensitive transition between the commercial
07:39:37 developments to the east of the site and the
07:39:39 existing residential to the west, and will,
07:39:43 therefore, be compatible with the existing
07:39:46 neighborhood character of the area.
07:39:48 Based on those findings, goals, objectives,
07:39:51 policies of the comprehensive plan, Planning
07:39:53 Commission staff finds the proposed rezoning
07:39:56 consistent with the Tampa comprehensive plan.
07:39:57 Thank you.
07:40:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you, David.
07:40:02 Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
07:40:04 We have not had that many SH rezonings recently.
07:40:16 I think the last time I was before you in February
07:40:18 we did an SH-RS to SH-RSA.
07:40:22 Tonight, the request before you is from SH-RS to
07:40:26 SH-RM.
07:40:27 It is a Euclidean zoning district.
07:40:30 I did provide you with the form based standards in
07:40:33 your staff report this evening on pages 2, 3, 4,
07:40:37 and 5.
07:40:38 The request, as David just said is located one
07:40:44 block to the west of Florida Avenue and per the
07:40:51 future land use category of the community mixed
07:40:53 use 35, a maximum of 11 dwellings would be allowed
07:40:57 on the property given that the development
07:41:00 complies with all the applicable Land Development
07:41:03 regulations.
07:41:03 Again, just as the Euclidean request before you,
07:41:08 prior applications, there are no waivers that are
07:41:11 being requested, and there is no site plan.
07:41:13 They are committing to comply.
07:41:15 The subject property is 115 by 150 for a total of
07:41:20 17,250 square feet.
07:41:23 It's bordered by Diana Street on the south and
07:41:26 Adriana Avenue on the west.
07:41:28 There is SH-CI, which is Seminole Heights
07:41:32 commercial intensive immediately to the east,
07:41:35 which fronts on Florida Avenue, and SH-RS to the
07:41:40 north and to the west.
07:41:41 Let me go ahead and show you some pictures of the
07:41:46 site.
07:41:47 Start with the aerial.
07:41:49 David just showed you, Florida Avenue, Diana,
07:41:52 Adriana, Thomas Street dead ends here.
07:41:56 Knollwood to the north just a few blocks,
07:41:59 Lambright to the south.
07:42:01 Go ahead and show you the zoning atlas.
07:42:05 This is the SH-CI corridor, which immediately
07:42:08 abuts the subject property, and then there is
07:42:11 SH-RS to the west.
07:42:13 What I thought was interesting -- David, can I see
07:42:23 your parcel aerials, the shot -- I'll go ahead and
07:42:27 show you pictures of the site.
07:42:30 I didn't see this on my aerial, but I did see it
07:42:40 when I was out in the field.
07:42:41 That is that the one property, just one to the
07:42:44 north, there is a house here, and then this
07:42:47 property here comes all the way through.
07:42:50 So it has a mixed zoning, CI on the front and RS
07:42:53 on the back.
07:42:54 It actually looked like they were accessing back
07:42:56 on the residential street.
07:43:02 This picture gave a little bit better picture of
07:43:08 what was coming through there.
07:43:09 Okay.
07:43:10 In my presentation, I'm going to show you, I'm
07:43:13 going to start on the Adriana side and come down
07:43:18 and show you some pictures along that area as
07:43:21 well.
07:43:22 This is from Adriana looking back to Florida.
07:43:27 This is the subject.
07:43:35 Again, the subject.
07:43:37 This is from Diana looking north.
07:43:41 Subject, from Diana again looking north.
07:43:45 This is the property immediately approaching the
07:43:49 property immediately to the east on Florida.
07:43:54 Back on Adriana now looking back north.
07:43:57 This is the property immediately to the north.
07:44:00 It's a single-family residence.
07:44:02 And then this is still north, which you can see
07:44:06 all the way through to the business on Florida
07:44:10 Avenue.
07:44:11 This is the property to the west on the corner of
07:44:18 Thomas and Diana.
07:44:20 And this is immediately west.
07:44:25 This is at the intersection of Adriana and Diana
07:44:28 looking down Diana to the west.
07:44:31 So these are all the rear yards from Lambright.
07:44:36 So Lambright, the houses, these are their rears,
07:44:43 and there are fences that travel down Diana.
07:44:48 There's one access there from a through -- there
07:44:51 are through lots with fronts on Lambright and
07:44:54 rears on Diana coming now approaching Florida.
07:44:58 This is looking down toward Florida.
07:45:00 This is the property immediately to the east on
07:45:05 Florida.
07:45:06 It actually is a principal parking lot.
07:45:10 One way in on Diana, one way out on Florida.
07:45:13 It serves the rooster and the till that is to the
07:45:20 south at the intersection of Diana and Florida.
07:45:24 Here is another look down Diana approaching the
07:45:29 intersection, and then those houses I showed you
07:45:32 from Lambright that have rears on Diana, those are
07:45:36 a few of those.
07:45:37 Based on staff's review of the application and
07:45:44 satisfaction to the minimum requirements of the RN
07:45:47 district as well as the underlying land use, staff
07:45:49 did find the request consistent, and we are
07:45:52 available for any questions.
07:46:02 >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the City
07:46:04 Council, my name is John Grandoff.
07:46:07 Suite 3700 Bank of America Plaza.
07:46:09 I have the pleasure of representing Woodcleft LLC,
07:46:15 which is a partnership of Chris Clamp and Joe
07:46:18 CAVIERO.
07:46:20 Also, I'm joined this evening by our architect,
07:46:21 Mr. John Mistretta with the Junto Architecture
07:46:21 group.
07:46:24 John, would you please raise your hand.
07:46:27 John and I have had several meetings with Mike
07:46:30 Callahan of the city staff to get to understand
07:46:33 the Seminole Heights district form-based zoning.
07:46:37 And to tell you a bit of history, years ago, the
07:46:41 form-based zoning code was adopted for Seminole
07:46:44 Heights to provide some amount of flexibility in
07:46:51 designing sites other than the usual Euclidean
07:46:54 zoning districts that you have.
07:46:55 We've tested the site against the zoning district,
07:46:58 and we found that we could meet all the
07:47:01 requirements.
07:47:01 This is a textbook college case rezoning where you
07:47:07 have -- you need to have a transition between the
07:47:10 high intensity of Florida Avenue and the
07:47:12 single-family zoning districts.
07:47:13 And I'll simply show you larger version of
07:47:20 Mr. Hay's map on his report where it shows that
07:47:24 the plan category of CMU 35 in the pink is exactly
07:47:29 where we are.
07:47:30 And in this block, the Planning Commission has
07:47:34 stated we want CMU 35 development to transition
07:47:39 from the high intensity of Florida Avenue westward
07:47:42 to the R-10 single-family zoning district instead
07:47:46 of having a hard change, you have a more of a
07:47:49 transitional change.
07:47:50 And that is the essence of the SH-RM form based
07:47:57 zoning plan.
07:47:58 Mr. Hay's report is very enlightening because he
07:48:03 makes a summary recommendation that this is a
07:48:05 sensitive transition that respects the
07:48:09 neighborhood's rights and also preserves the
07:48:11 rights of the property owner, and you can
07:48:13 literally live and walk to Florida Avenue and go
07:48:19 have supper at the rooster and the till.
07:48:21 This is the intent of Seminole Heights.
07:48:24 This is what they are trying to achieve.
07:48:25 Our client has about half an acre of property, and
07:48:31 instead of building it full intensity of 11 or 12
07:48:34 units, we're building 6 units with plenty of
07:48:37 yards, very tastefully done.
07:48:39 And meeting the intent and the goals of the
07:48:43 comprehensive plan.
07:48:44 Ms. Abbye's report finds that we comply with all
07:48:48 applicable Land Development regulations, concludes
07:48:52 that there are no objections to any of the city
07:48:54 staff, particularly the urban design staff which
07:48:57 is headed up by Mr. Callahan.
07:48:59 And you may or may not know that Mr. Callahan is
07:49:01 charged with making sure that projects in the
07:49:04 districts comply with the overlays such as the
07:49:07 Seminole Heights overlay district.
07:49:09 Now, going back to Mr. Hay's report, what is the
07:49:14 CMU-35 plan category all about.
07:49:18 The CMU-35, the primary purpose is to provide
07:49:23 primarily for areas suitable for general
07:49:25 commercial, professional office, and multifamily
07:49:29 development, to encourage a true mix of uses,
07:49:33 residential development can be guided by either
07:49:35 density or F.A.R.
07:49:36 Now, F.A.R. is the total square footage you could
07:49:41 put on the property based upon the acreage.
07:49:44 And based upon that calculation, we would have the
07:49:47 ability to build 34,000 square feet of space.
07:49:52 We elected not to do that, but to build six units,
07:49:56 which will total 10,800 square feet of space over
07:50:01 six units without garages.
07:50:03 So you're coming down from a potential 34,000 to a
07:50:07 reality of 10,000, very low intensity, but not a
07:50:12 suburban district where you have to get in your
07:50:15 car and go to everything you want to go to.
07:50:18 Here you can live in the Seminole Heights district
07:50:20 and literally walk to where you want to go.
07:50:22 This is the intent of the code.
07:50:24 As I said, this is a textbook rezoning consistent
07:50:26 with the comprehensive plan.
07:50:28 I respectfully request that you adopt this
07:50:30 application this evening and approve the project.
07:50:32 I'll reserve the remainder of my comments for
07:50:35 rebuttal.
07:50:36 Thank you.
07:50:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
07:50:38 Is there anyone in the public that would like to
07:50:41 comment on item number 9, REZ 16-24?
07:50:45 If you have not been sworn in, please make sure
07:50:48 that you are.
07:50:48 Mr. Crew, I think we have maybe one or two people
07:50:52 that have not been sworn in.
07:50:54 Those that have not been sworn in, if you could
07:50:56 stand, raise your right hand to be sworn in.
07:51:01 [oath administered]
07:51:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before we go on, Mr. Grandoff, you
07:51:06 were not sworn in.
07:51:09 >> Let me clear that up.
07:51:11 I came in after the swearing.
07:51:14 I've now been sworn in.
07:51:15 I ratify everything I said before and was under
07:51:19 oath and I'll attest to that at this moment.
07:51:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Our city attorneys seem to be in
07:51:26 agreement with that.
07:51:27 Thank you.
07:51:27 I appreciate it.
07:51:28 Ma'am, you are first.
07:51:29 Thank you, please.
07:51:30 Please state your name and address for the record.
07:51:32 >> Yes.
07:51:32 My name is Dana FILK.
07:51:35 906 West Henry Avenue.
07:51:38 I'm a proud resident of Seminole Heights for the
07:51:41 past 29 years.
07:51:42 I walk daily with my dog, and you can tell the
07:51:48 residents versus the nonresidents.
07:51:50 Nonresidents have no regard to the speed limits.
07:51:55 Our community, the majority of the homes were
07:51:57 built in the '20s.
07:51:58 Therefore, we have very few sidewalks and very few
07:52:05 curves.
07:52:05 Curbs.
07:52:08 Like south Tampa, we have wonderful restaurants,
07:52:11 craft beer houses and trendy shops.
07:52:13 We also have the flooding as well as you do in
07:52:17 south Tampa.
07:52:18 The flooding I feel is created by overbuilding in
07:52:23 areas where there never was a problem before.
07:52:26 I would respectfully ask Council not to overlook
07:52:29 these real concerns.
07:52:30 For those of us who are proud of and live where we
07:52:34 live.
07:52:34 This street is already a dangerous -- has a very
07:52:38 dangerous flooding problem where it intersects
07:52:40 with Florida Avenue.
07:52:41 When the summer rains are here it floods up into
07:52:46 the parking lots where people park for these
07:52:49 restaurants.
07:52:49 This is probably the last greenspace area where
07:52:54 water can go.
07:52:56 I also would like to share that people unfamiliar
07:53:01 with the area, on my street, Henry Avenue, several
07:53:04 years back, somebody drove into the river.
07:53:07 I didn't see them drive in.
07:53:08 I only saw them two, three months later, the car
07:53:12 and the body being pulled out.
07:53:14 People think these roads go all the way through,
07:53:17 and they don't.
07:53:19 That's why they couldn't find the car.
07:53:23 They knew the people were missing, the man was
07:53:26 missing, but with the tide, they couldn't find it.
07:53:28 I have a very strong concern with this project,
07:53:33 and I would ask Council please to look into it.
07:53:37 Thank you.
07:53:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:53:38 Next, please.
07:53:42 >> Hi.
07:53:43 I'm Melissa clay.
07:53:44 I live at 5919 North Tampa Street.
07:53:47 And I'm here tonight, which I never talk in front
07:53:51 of people, so this is how upset this has gotten
07:53:54 me.
07:53:55 I'm originally from Tampa.
07:53:56 I went to Hillsborough High School.
07:53:58 I'm used to driving the bus through, seeing
07:54:01 Central Avenue, walking all through there.
07:54:03 And now I'm squared that I moved to Seminole
07:54:07 Heights and we're getting all these homes in there
07:54:13 and now they want to put town houses.
07:54:15 I don't understand why it can't be homes.
07:54:19 Why does it have to be town houses, six of them.
07:54:22 They are saying that they downsized.
07:54:27 Six is still a lot of town houses to put in
07:54:31 Seminole Heights that doesn't even really go in
07:54:33 that neighborhood.
07:54:34 Most of us live there because it's not a
07:54:37 cookie-cutter.
07:54:38 It's original.
07:54:39 Everybody sits out on the front porch, has front
07:54:42 porch parties.
07:54:43 Why do you want to sit on your porch and look at
07:54:46 town houses?
07:54:47 The parking is not going to be good even if they
07:54:49 have a garage behind.
07:54:50 We have trouble now, and then the restaurant, all
07:54:53 that parking and you're going to have six town
07:54:56 houses right there.
07:54:56 Another concern I have is that like she walks her
07:55:00 dog, I walk my grandbaby every day through there
07:55:03 and the traffic now is just terrible, and if we
07:55:06 allow these town houses to go in there, how many
07:55:09 more will go in there?
07:55:10 What's going to happen to the original old
07:55:13 Seminole Heights community?
07:55:14 It's upcoming in restaurants, that's fine.
07:55:18 But I don't know why they say commercial and town
07:55:20 houses go hand in hand.
07:55:22 I just don't see why it can't be more homes.
07:55:26 To me, it's like instead of putting homes, it's
07:55:28 like they are more worried about the money.
07:55:31 How many can we get in the lot instead of worrying
07:55:34 about the neighborhood.
07:55:35 Because if you worry about the neighborhood, they
07:55:37 would just put in two or three homes and be done
07:55:40 with it and make them look like the old bungalows.
07:55:44 I've seen a picture of it and to me, it did not
07:55:47 fit the neighborhood at all.
07:55:48 So I would like you all to consider it, and really
07:55:51 look into it, because it's scary what could keep
07:55:54 happening to this neighborhood that's so old, and
07:55:56 a lot of it is so historical.
07:56:02 Thank you.
07:56:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:56:03 Next, please.
07:56:07 >> We have to stop meeting like this.
07:56:10 Good evening instead of good morning.
07:56:11 Kimberly Oberman, 4610 North Central Avenue.
07:56:16 I'm actually here on behalf as the president of
07:56:18 the heights urban core chamber or formerly known
07:56:21 as the business guild of Seminole Heights.
07:56:23 The petitioner actually came to do a presentation
07:56:26 and called me on several occasions to make sure we
07:56:29 had a good understanding of what they were trying
07:56:31 to accomplish with this particular development.
07:56:33 As staff said, it is in line with the desires and
07:56:36 the plan for Seminole Heights in the sense that we
07:56:39 are looking to provide additional density within
07:56:43 the community to support not only the businesses
07:56:46 in that area but also to support a comprehensive
07:56:49 neighborhood.
07:56:50 I do have some concerns about the project, but it
07:56:54 has more to do with how city staff evaluates a
07:56:57 project.
07:56:58 I think it's important for us to recognize that
07:57:00 most of the concerns you're hearing this evening
07:57:03 or will hear this evening have to do with actually
07:57:06 the transportation review of a project in an area
07:57:10 that is, in fact, zoned Euclidean or considered
07:57:13 Euclidean.
07:57:14 In your illustrations, the zoning illustrations
07:57:19 you saw earlier, the street Diana actually is a
07:57:23 paved alleyway.
07:57:26 The reason the back of all of those homes face
07:57:29 Diana is because it was an alley.
07:57:33 There are no sidewalks, and so the concerns the
07:57:36 residents are having about putting six townhomes
07:57:40 on that is because the infrastructure for that
07:57:43 particular block or three or four is not really
07:57:47 suited for the additional density that we want
07:57:50 given our comprehensive plan.
07:57:52 So I think it's critically important to recognize
07:57:55 the city's responsibility in supporting
07:57:57 neighborhoods that are, in fact, developing in
07:58:01 accordance to the comprehensive plan, are having
07:58:05 investors come in and are spending money in order
07:58:07 to create density that we're looking for, and
07:58:11 maybe it's Key West design -- its Key West design
07:58:16 isn't what a bungalow looks like.
07:58:18 Also townhomes behind a commercial district
07:58:20 addresses many of the noise and disruption issues,
07:58:22 traffic sounds and those things that can occur in
07:58:25 a commercial district as it transitions to
07:58:28 residential.
07:58:28 Please ask staff to carefully review projects like
07:58:32 this.
07:58:35 As general whole, the business guild or the
07:58:37 heights urban core chamber, which I'll get used to
07:58:40 saying supports this project and the petitioner.
07:58:43 So we ask the staff to take a look at the things
07:58:46 the city needs to do to support the developer's
07:58:49 efforts.
07:58:49 Thank you.
07:58:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:58:51 Next, sir.
07:58:54 >> Greg McCormick.
07:58:56 I live at 121 West Thomas Street, within 75 meters
07:59:02 of the property.
07:59:03 Currently, she's correct.
07:59:04 Diana is not really zoned for -- doesn't really
07:59:09 work for what it's used for.
07:59:11 Restaurant there, when they have specials, what
07:59:17 have you, the clientele will park on the sidewalk.
07:59:19 Getting in and out, you're going out onto Florida,
07:59:23 another car is coming in, the possibility for an
07:59:26 accident very high.
07:59:28 You saw some of the photos, for example, the signs
07:59:30 there are restricting some of the sites left and
07:59:37 right on Florida.
07:59:37 The area in front, the streets are very
07:59:40 disrepaired, not unimproved but disrepaired.
07:59:43 And a lot of the families that live there, a lot
07:59:47 of the people that live there, this is the kind of
07:59:49 neighborhood where people talk to each other after
07:59:51 work.
07:59:51 They'll stand out in the street and talk to each
07:59:54 other across the street from each other.
07:59:56 The property, when they put the rezoning in, this
08:00:00 is going to change some of that aspect.
08:00:02 I believe that there are other locations that
08:00:06 would be better suited than this.
08:00:08 For example, some of the businesses coming,
08:00:12 rebuilding that area, perhaps they could put
08:00:14 something above that, like they do in Europe or
08:00:17 what have you.
08:00:18 But I do not think that -- I would ask you not to
08:00:23 support this rezoning in that it's going to change
08:00:26 the dynamics as far as the textbook case.
08:00:31 I've read different textbooks as far as
08:00:33 transitions.
08:00:34 That is a commercial area up there.
08:00:36 This isn't going to be a commercial property as
08:00:38 far as I know.
08:00:39 Commercial properties should be somewhere where
08:00:43 they can be commercial rather than residential.
08:00:46 Thank you.
08:00:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
08:00:49 Next, please.
08:00:54 >>> I have been sworn in.
08:00:55 Archie Warren, 119 West Thomas Street right off
08:00:59 the corner of this proposed site.
08:01:01 Me and my wife have been there for 14 years.
08:01:06 We're raising our granddaughter, she's three.
08:01:08 And I have two other granddaughters that come down
08:01:11 and visit, and we walk around the neighborhood.
08:01:14 We ride our bicycles around the neighborhood.
08:01:19 I don't think town houses is good for the
08:01:22 neighborhood.
08:01:22 I think houses would be better suited for us
08:01:27 because we want -- me and my wife want to live the
08:01:31 rest of our life there.
08:01:32 We want to raise our granddaughter there and our
08:01:34 other grandchildren.
08:01:35 We hope that you all look into this and think
08:01:38 about it.
08:01:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
08:01:42 Next please.
08:01:46 >> I'm Adriana Lopez.
08:01:48 605 North Adriana Avenue.
08:01:50 My property is right next door to where they are
08:01:54 wanting to build these townhomes, and I true do
08:01:58 not agree with it.
08:01:59 We already have a lot of problems with the narrow
08:02:01 streets, the traffic.
08:02:03 I have three children.
08:02:06 They want to go outside and play, it will be on
08:02:08 something that is not ideal for them to be out
08:02:11 between so much traffic with having so many cars
08:02:15 next door with six townhomes.
08:02:18 I truly don't agree with it, and we can support
08:02:24 not doing these townhomes, I would appreciate it.
08:02:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:02:30 Next please.
08:02:34 >> Hi.
08:02:34 My name is Hawkins.
08:02:36 I live at 305 Idlewild.
08:02:39 I don't live right next to the area.
08:02:42 I live on the other side.
08:02:44 But I do drive over there.
08:02:46 I spoke to some of the neighbors today, and they
08:02:48 don't agree with it because they are not
08:02:51 comfortable with seeing townhomes every day.
08:02:53 I grew up in this neighborhood.
08:02:55 My parents grew up in this neighborhood.
08:02:58 I would really like to see it stay the same.
08:03:01 So if you could start now by not letting people
08:03:07 like this come in, and keep it the way it is, I
08:03:10 would really appreciate it.
08:03:11 It is my home, and I hope it's home for my
08:03:15 children one day.
08:03:16 That's all.
08:03:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:03:19 Next please.
08:03:26 >> Good evening.
08:03:27 Geraldine Holloway.
08:03:28 I live at 910 West Henry Avenue.
08:03:31 I have been sworn.
08:03:31 I own the property at 118 West Thomas, which is
08:03:35 directly to the west of the proposed site.
08:03:37 I'm not going to repeat all of the comments the
08:03:41 neighbors have made about the congestion and the
08:03:44 narrow streets.
08:03:47 I think they told you enough about that, but what
08:03:49 I would like to talk about is the form-based
08:03:52 zoning.
08:03:52 I'd like to talk about the vision plan that all of
08:03:54 the neighbors, myself included, spent a lot of
08:03:57 time participating with city workshops and going
08:04:01 to those and reviewing the maps and persuading the
08:04:05 people in charge of the workshops to zone
08:04:08 particular properties particular ways.
08:04:11 And the lots that we're talking about, the three
08:04:13 lots, the two that face Adriana and the one that
08:04:16 faces Diana are all zoned single-family
08:04:19 residential.
08:04:20 They were zoned single-family residential at the
08:04:25 impetus of the neighborhood, because that was the
08:04:28 wishes of the neighborhood.
08:04:30 It's consistent with the form-based zoning the way
08:04:33 it is designed, the way it's set up right now.
08:04:36 It requires that the houses, the two houses face
08:04:41 Adriana, the two lots face Adriana.
08:04:44 Any construction on them faces Adriana.
08:04:46 It would require roughly 20-foot setback because
08:04:49 of block averaging.
08:04:50 If the project or even if they were to put this
08:04:53 project, facing Adriana, instead, they have chosen
08:04:57 to present a plan where their project faces Diana
08:05:00 because there are no other houses on that block.
08:05:03 They don't have to average.
08:05:04 They can put the structure seven feet from the
08:05:07 front property line.
08:05:08 They can put the structure, I believe, seven feet
08:05:11 from the side -- seven foot side setback on
08:05:16 Adriana, but you can actually go to three feet
08:05:18 with your awnings and extensions of that nature.
08:05:21 What's going to happen is as proposed, this plan
08:05:26 is going to result in a huge structure facing
08:05:30 Adriana or facing Diana with a wall facing Adriana
08:05:38 roughly seven feet from the property line.
08:05:41 The people who live, who you just heard from, who
08:05:43 live directly next door, there will be houses
08:05:48 looking into their backyard.
08:05:49 The way it's designed at this point with it facing
08:05:52 Diana, it will require that the parking all enter
08:05:55 from the Adriana side.
08:05:56 My house happens to be configured in a way that
08:06:00 the lights from the cars coming in and out of that
08:06:03 driveway are going to shine directly in my
08:06:06 tenants' windows.
08:06:07 We believe that it is inconsistent with the
08:06:09 neighborhood, inconsistent with the plan.
08:06:11 The neighbors are unhappy with it.
08:06:13 I have 43 signed petitions which I would like to
08:06:18 present to Council.
08:06:19 We would request that you deny the application.
08:06:21 We're not opposed to change.
08:06:22 We're opposed to bad change.
08:06:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
08:06:24 Is that a copy that we can keep?
08:06:26 >> Yes.
08:06:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
08:06:27 Is there anyone else in the public that would like
08:06:30 to comment on this item?
08:06:31 Council, any questions before we go on to
08:06:36 rebuttal.
08:06:38 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I have a question for Ms. Feeley
08:06:40 or --
08:06:41 The statement was made that they were zoned for
08:06:44 three homes pursuant to the neighborhood
08:06:51 requesting it.
08:06:52 Could you tell me if that is correct?
08:06:55 If that is what happened?
08:07:00 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
08:07:02 The existing zoning is SH-RS, which is a
08:07:06 5,000-square-foot lot, given that this is 17,000
08:07:10 square feet total, it would be three potential
08:07:13 single-family lots.
08:07:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That is correct.
08:07:17 But the statement was made that those are three
08:07:20 residential lots pursuant to the request of the
08:07:23 neighborhood when they were looking at the
08:07:27 form-based zoning.
08:07:28 That's the statement that was made.
08:07:30 I want to know if that's how that happened, or
08:07:32 were they already zoned, that's what they were
08:07:35 zoned to begin with.
08:07:36 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Well, when the form-based code
08:07:39 came forward, it would have gone typically unless
08:07:42 the area there were certain nodes, I remember, and
08:07:45 intersections that Kathy had increased some of the
08:07:50 zoning along Hanna.
08:07:51 I remember the latter diagram she had for you all
08:07:55 with some of the intersections and connections
08:07:57 between Florida and Nebraska.
08:07:58 But there were no necessarily -- there were no
08:08:04 downzonings, so it wouldn't have gone from an
08:08:10 SH-RM down to SH-RS.
08:08:13 There were no downzonings in the area-wide
08:08:16 rezoning.
08:08:17 Specifically, I cannot remember and I cannot
08:08:19 answer that question.
08:08:20 Theoretically, I can provide you with what I just
08:08:22 did.
08:08:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
08:08:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions, before
08:08:28 rebuttal?
08:08:29 >>ABBYE FEELEY: One other item that Julia wanted
08:08:31 me to mention.
08:08:32 In relationship to Diana, when I drove out there
08:08:35 and took my pictures, when I went back, I did ask
08:08:39 James Cook immediately, I said, boy, was Diana an
08:08:42 alley?
08:08:43 That's awfully squeezy in there.
08:08:46 He said, no, it is actually platted right-of-way.
08:08:49 It is a 50-foot platted right-of-way with 16 feet
08:08:53 of asphalt.
08:08:54 So it is -- it would act as two eight-foot lanes,
08:08:59 but there is 50 foot of public right-of-way there,
08:09:00 and it is a platted right-of-way.
08:09:04 So there is opportunity -- those fences come back,
08:09:10 many of them are most likely in the public
08:09:12 right-of-way because there's 50-foot from property
08:09:14 line to property line there.
08:09:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Just a quick question following
08:09:19 with that, what you just said, so when was that --
08:09:23 when did they see that original plat?
08:09:26 What year, do you know or any idea?
08:09:28 My point is that the street itself, Diana --
08:09:33 >>ABBYE FEELEY: It says on there 50-foot platted
08:09:36 right-of-way, 16-foot of asphalt.
08:09:38 And this was the survey that was submitted.
08:09:41 They did double-check that with Jimmy when I got
08:09:44 back to the office because I, too, had gone down
08:09:46 Diana and pulled onto Florida, and saw that, but
08:09:51 what you see, I mean, when you look at the aerial,
08:09:54 is that green there and the apron, that's all in
08:09:58 the right-of-way, obviously, and the same thing on
08:10:01 the other side.
08:10:03 It's a little harder to depict.
08:10:06 I didn't have him, but I did certify with him that
08:10:09 that was not a vacated alley, or it was not an
08:10:12 alley.
08:10:13 He certified that it was a street.
08:10:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:10:19 Any other questions of staff before we go to
08:10:21 rebuttal.
08:10:22 Ms. Montelione.
08:10:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Don't go away.
08:10:25 There was a lot of talking about the orientation
08:10:32 and these buildings.
08:10:33 This is not a site plan controlled application, so
08:10:38 none of the statements that we heard about
08:10:40 orientation can really be relied on.
08:10:46 I mean, all we can look at is what the envelope,
08:10:50 the building envelope could be.
08:10:56 And even the setbacks wouldn't be set specifically
08:11:01 until they go to permitting, right, and do the
08:11:06 averaging.
08:11:08 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Correct.
08:11:08 And they would need to be reviewed by mike
08:11:11 Callahan.
08:11:12 I have not seen any plans or site plans either,
08:11:14 and this application doesn't contain them.
08:11:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I wasn't sure if the applicant
08:11:25 met with the neighborhood, Mr. Grandoff, had met
08:11:27 with the neighborhood and showed them plans or --
08:11:31 so I'm not sure where the suppositions are -- or
08:11:35 the inferences are coming from.
08:11:40 And talking about when the rezoning took place,
08:11:44 the form based code, and I think Ms. Oberman kind
08:11:48 of referenced it, was that, you know, along the
08:11:53 main corridor, you've got the most commercial
08:11:57 uses, whether it's neighborhood commercial,
08:12:00 intensive commercial, or whatever, but the main
08:12:03 part -- then you go to, you know -- multifamily,
08:12:10 then town houses, and then you go to
08:12:12 single-family.
08:12:12 So as you get deeper into the neighborhood, you
08:12:15 get less intense.
08:12:16 But this is right behind that commercial corridor.
08:12:21 In that mind-set and frame of the form-based code,
08:12:31 and I'm guessing that's why Mr. Hay found it
08:12:34 consistent, because that's where you would look
08:12:36 for your multifamily.
08:12:37 As you get closer to the river, it would get less
08:12:40 and less dense and more --
08:12:44 >>ABBYE FEELEY: If you remember, part of the form
08:12:46 base code discusses, too, looked at addressing
08:12:49 some of the challenges of the area, which was the
08:12:52 depth of the commercial corridors.
08:12:53 I remember a lot of discussions about that through
08:12:57 our involvement with Land Development saying, you
08:13:00 know, a lot of ours only hundred feet deep or this
08:13:02 or that.
08:13:03 When you start to put on commercial developments
08:13:05 to feed these corridors, there's not enough depth.
08:13:09 When I was looking back, the red, this is the
08:13:12 future land use map, and the red here is that
08:13:14 CC-35, which was a newer land use category.
08:13:18 And the CC-35 allows consideration up to a CI,
08:13:22 which is a commercial intensive district.
08:13:24 Have this on MLK, have this a couple of other
08:13:27 places.
08:13:28 What is sensitive here is those transitional pinks
08:13:32 that is the CMU-35 that only allows up to a CG.
08:13:37 But it allows for consideration of even -- even CG
08:13:41 allows for consideration of residential
08:13:43 multifamily to provide better transitions back to
08:13:46 the R-10, R-20, lower single-family land use
08:13:51 categories.
08:13:51 Sorry I can't more specifically speak to, but what
08:13:55 I can visually see is that this subject, and then,
08:13:58 unfortunately, that's over, but, up to Knollwood
08:14:02 and then coming up, that there was these little
08:14:06 pink slivers that would have better transitioned
08:14:10 some of that area.
08:14:11 And you'll see it even along --
08:14:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm surprised it doesn't
08:14:15 continue further south.
08:14:16 It seems to stop right there at Diana.
08:14:24 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Well, that could be because that
08:14:26 block there is -- I mean, those are -- have all
08:14:29 those fronts of the single-family residential in
08:14:31 the back.
08:14:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Lambright and even further
08:14:34 down.
08:14:35 This is one, two, three, four blocks where it's
08:14:43 not CMU 35 and then picks up again.
08:14:47 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Right.
08:14:48 I believe that goes back to that latter.
08:14:50 As you approach those nodes that were identified
08:14:53 as those growth nodes, we had more of those
08:14:56 transitional types of land uses.
08:15:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Cohen.
08:15:01 >>HARRY COHEN: Just one additional question.
08:15:05 It seems like the width of Diana Street is a major
08:15:10 issue with whether -- it sounds like it's sort of
08:15:13 right on the cusp between an alley and the street.
08:15:16 What type of and perhaps transportation can answer
08:15:19 this.
08:15:20 I'm not sure.
08:15:21 But what type of review and what type of special
08:15:27 conditions are going to be imposed on this
08:15:31 property if it's developed the way that it's being
08:15:35 proposed here to deal with the narrowness of the
08:15:37 street or nothing, or will there not be anything
08:15:41 specially imposed on this to deal with the
08:15:43 narrowness of the street.
08:15:44 >> Jonathan Scott, transportation and planning.
08:15:48 It depends on the development.
08:15:51 Go right through permitting since this Euclidean,
08:15:56 but I know the transportation department is
08:15:58 looking at situations like this and trying to
08:16:00 develop.
08:16:01 So if they propose certain parking around there or
08:16:06 so forth.
08:16:07 There's no room to park a car in the street there.
08:16:10 If they want to do improvements, they could be
08:16:12 required to improve the road to make it a little
08:16:15 bit wider right there.
08:16:17 I know it's real narrow right there.
08:16:19 Typically, they could come in and ask for access
08:16:21 and they wouldn't have to improve it at all.
08:16:24 I know that the transportation department is
08:16:25 looking at certain things, just like this right
08:16:27 now, where it's kind of substandard.
08:16:30 So if that answers your question.
08:16:32 >>HARRY COHEN: I mean, it doesn't really.
08:16:34 So would -- and maybe the answer is you don't know
08:16:40 the answer or we can't tell.
08:16:42 But would the applicant be expected to take
08:16:47 special measures in order to widen the street or
08:16:54 to somehow configure the access so as to minimize
08:16:59 some of the problems that have been identified, or
08:17:02 is it just going to slide right through?
08:17:06 I'm not sure how this is going to be scrutinized
08:17:10 when it comes to you.
08:17:12 >> I don't really know.
08:17:13 But I know they are looking into making some
08:17:16 policies and things -- exact instances just like
08:17:21 this.
08:17:24 >>HARRY COHEN: Looking into making policies, for
08:17:26 instance, just like this and having policies in
08:17:28 place to deal with the things like this are two
08:17:32 different things.
08:17:33 And I'm trying, you know, what I'm hearing in
08:17:39 terms of the neighborhood opposition, there's a
08:17:41 lot of uncertainty about how an already very, very
08:17:45 narrow street is going to function.
08:17:49 In order for something like this to go forward, it
08:17:52 would be very help to give assurances to the
08:17:55 neighborhood about what is going to be required of
08:17:57 the applicant once they actually get into the
08:18:01 permitting phase.
08:18:04 >> I don't really know at this time.
08:18:06 Sorry.
08:18:10 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
08:18:13 You know all of our new developments, not from a
08:18:17 transportation engineer standpoint, but all of our
08:18:18 new developments require sidewalks.
08:18:20 Six-foot sidewalks.
08:18:21 The sidewalks typically go adjacent to the
08:18:24 property line in the right-of-way.
08:18:25 So given that this has that 50-foot right-of-way
08:18:28 before their property line starts that sidewalk
08:18:31 and most likely what you see in the parking lot
08:18:34 nearer to the east is going to have to continue
08:18:36 down Diana and on Adriana to provide the sidewalk
08:18:41 and the pedestrian recovery area which is
08:18:44 typically two feet into that right-of-way.
08:18:45 Then you have the property setbacks, and then you
08:18:50 have the location of the buildings from there.
08:18:53 So I'm not sure that -- you know, I can follow
08:18:57 back with staff on that in between first and
08:19:00 second reading if this were to move forward
08:19:02 tonight.
08:19:03 If you want answers to that before, you could ask
08:19:05 for a continuance.
08:19:06 I could follow back -- when Mr. Cook told me it is
08:19:11 50-foot and we went back and looked at it, I don't
08:19:17 know what the other ramifications or commitments
08:19:21 from the developer are as far as improving that to
08:19:24 be a minimum of 20-foot of asphalt to provide the
08:19:28 two 10-foot lanes.
08:19:30 You know, I definitely hear what you're saying.
08:19:32 Happy to follow back on that, and get you some
08:19:35 answers in relation to what the city, those
08:19:38 requirements would be.
08:19:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could, Ms. Feeley, before you
08:19:44 go on.
08:19:44 >> I wanted to ask Jonathan, too, about the
08:19:47 driveway placement in relationship to the lot.
08:19:49 The driveway is going to have to be set back off
08:19:51 of that intersection per city standards in order
08:19:53 to provide for visibility.
08:19:55 And I was going to try to get --
08:19:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The question goes to a couple of
08:20:02 things Mr. Cohen just mentioned.
08:20:03 Now we're sitting in a different situation, which
08:20:05 is what is transportation's review in a Euclidean
08:20:10 zoning and then what are the standards we have?
08:20:12 You have mentioned one which is the driveway.
08:20:14 What are the standards that have to be used for
08:20:16 any zoning that we have.
08:20:18 Those are the two things that I won't say in
08:20:21 conflict but we're trying to figure out.
08:20:23 When you see a street like you see Diana, we're
08:20:27 trying to figure out, what effect is that going to
08:20:29 have on transportation.
08:20:30 And I don't think Mr. Scott probably did the kind
08:20:33 of analysis he might do in the same way if it was
08:20:37 not a Euclidean zoning.
08:20:39 There is that disconnect.
08:20:40 So that's where we're kind of stuck.
08:20:42 We're stuck because we're struggling.
08:20:50 Thank you.
08:20:51 Any other questions of Council before we go to
08:20:54 rebuttal?
08:20:55 Mr. Grandoff.
08:20:58 >> Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
08:20:59 Diana Street talk about that while we're on the
08:21:06 subject.
08:21:06 Here is a survey.
08:21:08 I'm at the southern part of the property.
08:21:13 Here is Adriana heading north.
08:21:32 Diana is running east and west.
08:21:35 Florida Avenue is over here off the map.
08:21:38 The commercial property, the CI property is right
08:21:41 here.
08:21:42 We share that property line.
08:21:44 Diana was platted as Jackson Avenue back in the
08:21:47 '20s.
08:21:48 And you'll see the surveyors found that it's
08:21:50 50 feet right-of-way platted but only 16 feet of
08:21:53 asphalt and we're on the north boundary of Diana
08:21:57 as platted.
08:21:58 My guess is that the property owner to the south
08:22:02 has built his fence into Diana as it was platted.
08:22:06 And Diana became a de facto alley.
08:22:10 The city has authority to compel the improvement
08:22:16 of a right-of-way that the city has by plat in
08:22:19 order to serve a project.
08:22:21 So if that right-of-way has to be widened to make
08:22:23 it function, then it will have to be done.
08:22:27 As I mentioned earlier --
08:22:35 The form based zoning in Seminole Heights was
08:22:38 intended to strike a median between the pure
08:22:40 Euclidean zoning and the planned development
08:22:44 rezoning which is frequently very, very laborious
08:22:46 and encourage development in Seminole Heights.
08:22:48 How can we find a happy medium?
08:22:50 That's form based zoning.
08:22:52 We've met that requirement.
08:22:53 We will meet that requirement.
08:22:55 As to Ms. Capin's question, what was it zoned
08:22:59 before?
08:23:00 I think it's always been single-family zoning.
08:23:03 We're zoning it from single-family today.
08:23:05 I think what is more important and which is more
08:23:07 revealing about this project is for years it's
08:23:10 been designated CMU-35, where the Planning
08:23:14 Commission has been trying to encourage
08:23:16 multifamily development in this mixed use area to
08:23:19 provide a transition between Florida Avenue's
08:23:22 commercial intensive and the R-10 that is further
08:23:26 to the east.
08:23:26 That's the policy.
08:23:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I understood that.
08:23:31 I knew.
08:23:32 My point was, the statement was made that those
08:23:35 were three residential lots per the neighborhood
08:23:41 requesting it, and that's not a fact.
08:23:44 That's what I wanted to know.
08:23:45 >> That's not a fact.
08:23:48 That is the future of this area.
08:23:53 We're only building at 43% of the available
08:23:56 density on the property.
08:23:57 They will be owned units.
08:23:59 Six owned units.
08:24:01 Not an apartment complex.
08:24:04 And the true test is always is there competent
08:24:08 substantial evidence to approve the project?
08:24:09 I submit to you that there is based upon the staff
08:24:13 reports that have been found in both the city and
08:24:15 planning staff reports.
08:24:16 The corollary to that is there competent
08:24:20 substantial evidence to deny the project?
08:24:22 There is not competent substantial evidence to
08:24:24 deny the project.
08:24:25 I ask you to approve it this evening.
08:24:27 Thank you.
08:24:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
08:24:29 Any other questions or comments from Council?
08:24:34 Entertain a motion to close.
08:24:36 Motion from Ms. Montelione.
08:24:39 A second from Mr. Cohen to close.
08:24:41 All in favor of that motion please indicate by
08:24:43 saying aye.
08:24:44 Any opposed?
08:24:44 Thank you.
08:24:45 All right.
08:24:46 Next up is Mr. Cohen.
08:24:48 Sir, would you like to take that?
08:24:50 >>HARRY COHEN: I'll take a crack at it.
08:24:52 I move an ordinance being presented for first
08:24:56 reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning
08:24:58 property in the general vicinity of 6501 and 6505
08:25:02 North Adriana Street and 103 West Diana Street in
08:25:06 the City of Tampa, Florida, and more particularly
08:25:08 described in section 1, from zoning district
08:25:11 classification SH-RS (Seminole Heights,
08:25:15 residential, single-family detached) to SH-RM
08:25:18 (Seminole Heights, residential, multifamily)
08:25:22 providing an effective date.
08:25:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
08:25:25 Second from Ms. Capin.
08:25:26 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
08:25:30 saying aye.
08:25:31 Any opposed?
08:25:32 Mr. Clerk, did you hear that?
08:25:38 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda, Reddick,
08:25:41 and Maniscalco voting no.
08:25:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is that correct, gentlemen?
08:25:46 >> Correct on my part.
08:25:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
08:25:48 Thank you, Mr. Clerk.
08:25:49 Thank you for attending.
08:25:53 We are going to take an adjournment for about five
08:26:01 minutes.
08:26:02 We are going to be in recess for five minutes,
08:26:05 coming back at about 8:33.
08:26:07 [recess]
08:35:00 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
08:35:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: City Council is back in order.
08:35:03 Roll call, please.
08:35:04 Miranda?
08:35:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
08:35:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
08:35:10 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
08:35:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
08:35:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
08:35:14 Let us, if we could for a moment, Mr. Crew didn't
08:35:18 get a chance to tell us when the second reading
08:35:20 was for item number 9, REZ 16-24, Mr. Crew, sir.
08:35:25 >>THE CLERK: Yes, sir, the second reading and
08:35:27 adoption for that item will be May 5th at
08:35:29 9:30 a.m.
08:35:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
08:35:31 We are going now to item number 10.
08:35:34 Staff?
08:35:38 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Abbye Feeley, Land Development
08:35:40 Coordination.
08:35:41 Item number 10 is REZ 16-19.
08:35:44 It's located at 505 North Hubert Avenue.
08:35:48 The request before you tonight is from RS-50,
08:35:53 residential single-family, to PD, planned
08:35:55 development, residential single-family attached.
08:35:57 There are no waivers being requested with this PD
08:36:01 application.
08:36:08 >> Good evening, Council members.
08:36:09 David Hay with your Planning Commission staff.
08:36:13 I have been sworn.
08:36:13 We move back over to the Westshore planning
08:36:16 district for the next case, one of the city's
08:36:18 three targeted growth areas.
08:36:19 The subject site is a .2-acre subject site located
08:36:23 at the southeast corner of West Carmen Street and
08:36:25 North Hubert Avenue.
08:36:27 It is located within the Westshore Palms
08:36:30 neighborhood.
08:36:30 There is transit within the vicinity of the site.
08:36:34 HART route 15 and 45.
08:36:36 The closest public recreational facility is
08:36:39 Charles B. William Park, which is located
08:36:41 approximately two blocks to the south of the
08:36:43 subject site.
08:36:45 And the site is located within a level C
08:36:47 evacuation zone.
08:36:48 On to the aerial, here is the subject site right
08:36:54 here.
08:36:55 Carmen, Hubert, of course, we've got 275 corridor
08:37:02 here.
08:37:03 Kennedy is to the south.
08:37:05 We've got Jefferson high school up in the
08:37:09 northwest corner.
08:37:12 You can see basically the area has a mixtures of
08:37:17 single-family detached, multifamily, single family
08:37:20 attached.
08:37:21 So there's quite a mix.
08:37:23 In that area.
08:37:25 On to the future land use map, the subject site
08:37:30 and all the parcels within the brown color is the
08:37:34 residential 20.
08:37:35 There are some pockets of residential 35 in this
08:37:39 darker brown.
08:37:41 You've got residential 10 to the east of Lois
08:37:43 Avenue, and then actually some urban mixed use 60
08:37:49 further south on Kennedy and regional mixed use
08:37:51 100 up off cypress in that purple color.
08:37:58 The city's comprehensive plan does encourage the
08:38:01 use of its limited land resources in a more
08:38:03 efficient way by supporting infill development at
08:38:06 higher densities.
08:38:07 The proposed development is employing an
08:38:10 underutilized site based on the underlying land
08:38:13 use category.
08:38:16 So that infill is encouraged.
08:38:18 The city's plan also recommends a greater variety
08:38:21 of allowable development patterns, which encourage
08:38:24 good community design and reflect the character of
08:38:27 its surroundings.
08:38:28 That neighborhood is -- historically does have
08:38:30 that mix of multifamily attached.
08:38:34 So it's just adding to that housing choices for
08:38:36 that neighborhood.
08:38:37 So, therefore, based on those findings and the
08:38:40 goals, objectives and policies of the
08:38:42 comprehensive plan, the Planning Commission staff
08:38:44 finds the proposed rezoning consistent with the
08:38:46 Tampa comprehensive plan.
08:38:51 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Abbye Feeley, Land Development
08:38:53 Coordination.
08:38:54 This property, 505 north Hubert, as I mentioned,
08:39:04 going from RS-50 to single-family attached PD to
08:39:08 allow for five dwelling units.
08:39:10 It is configured in a single building with the
08:39:13 western-most unit facing Hubert and the four
08:39:16 remaining units facing West Carmen.
08:39:20 Proposed setbacks are as follows.
08:39:22 North 20 feet, south 20 feet, west 7 feet, and
08:39:27 side, which would be the east, 7 feet.
08:39:30 The proposed height is at 34.2 feet.
08:39:33 A total of nine parking spaces are required and a
08:39:35 total of 16 are being provided with two in each
08:39:40 garage for each unit and two in a parking pad for
08:39:43 each unit.
08:39:44 We just did a rezoning maybe two or three months
08:40:11 ago at the intersection here, and we went to
08:40:15 RM-24, and it's not reflected on the atlas.
08:40:21 It was the first six lots on both sides, and it
08:40:24 was this PD plus and went to RM-24.
08:40:27 It's already being cleared.
08:40:29 I'll show you pictures of that and I know I
08:40:31 processed that and I'm not seeing it to be able to
08:40:33 show properly.
08:40:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We know it is not a reflection of
08:40:37 old age, Ms. Feeley.
08:40:38 You can go ahead.
08:40:42 >>ABBYE FEELEY: You'll probably remember, too,
08:40:43 that when I did that rezoning, I showed you this
08:40:46 block really isn't there.
08:40:49 It's the D.O.T. expansion.
08:40:50 This area definitely transitioning one block off
08:40:56 of Lois.
08:40:57 In fact, what was nice, when I was out there,
08:40:59 D.O.T. has put in a small trail on that north side
08:41:03 of Carmen, and people were out there running and
08:41:06 walking their dogs.
08:41:07 So I have some pictures to show you as well.
08:41:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: What you're talking about, about a
08:41:15 month or two months ago, they have already vacated
08:41:18 it, cleared it.
08:41:20 I live down the street from there.
08:41:24 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I processed this PD.
08:41:26 That's down here.
08:41:27 The adagio apartments.
08:41:29 Residential single-family attached here.
08:41:30 This piece is in right now, coming before you I
08:41:35 believe in June or July for an RM.
08:41:37 It is a transitioning little segment.
08:41:41 Go ahead and show you some pictures.
08:41:49 This is the subject from Hubert.
08:41:54 Another picture from Hubert.
08:41:56 This is the Carmen side.
08:42:00 This is looking kind of south on Hubert.
08:42:04 Again, the subject here on Hubert, and then these
08:42:09 units are just to the south along Hubert.
08:42:12 When you reach Hubert and gray, that was the PD
08:42:16 for the multifamily residential, and then on the
08:42:21 west side of Hubert on Carmen, so this is
08:42:26 traveling back down this area here.
08:42:28 I took some pictures for you of the single-family
08:42:32 residential in that area.
08:42:37 This is the southwest corner of Carmen and Hubert,
08:42:41 so approaching the intersection.
08:42:42 This is directly west of the subject.
08:42:45 This is the piece I said currently.
08:42:47 They have their public notice signs up to come
08:42:49 before you.
08:42:50 That's on the west side of Hubert.
08:42:56 This is east on Carmen.
08:43:00 This is the north side of Carmen.
08:43:02 That little trail that they've put in.
08:43:09 And then the piece that Councilwoman Capin just
08:43:14 mentioned at the intersection of Lois, has already
08:43:19 been cleared and development is getting ready to
08:43:23 begin.
08:43:23 And they have saved lots of those large trees.
08:43:29 Mr. Alderman is here tonight.
08:43:33 He's done a couple of these single-family attached
08:43:36 very similar at the corner of Fig and Trask which
08:43:40 also came before you as a PD and also I believe at
08:43:43 Gray and Fig.
08:43:46 This is a similar layout, and no waivers.
08:43:58 They do need to correct their tree table, and that
08:44:02 can be done in between first and second reading
08:44:05 and some notations in relation to natural
08:44:09 resources.
08:44:10 Again, this is a transitioning area.
08:44:11 Staff did find the request consistent, and I am
08:44:14 available for any questions.
08:44:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:44:16 Petitioner?
08:44:21 >> Good evening, Council.
08:44:22 Dillon Alderman, 5000 17th Avenue North in
08:44:28 St. Petersburg.
08:44:29 As always, staff does a thorough job of describing
08:44:32 the project.
08:44:32 I'm going to be as brief as possible.
08:44:36 I'll show the layouts and elevations and make
08:44:39 myself available.
08:44:40 We're a corner property.
08:44:57 Our end unit is facing the street adjacent to it.
08:45:01 The additional unit face the street to the north.
08:45:05 It was a nice surprise to see that trail going.
08:45:10 I can assure you when my client bought the
08:45:12 property, he did not know that was coming.
08:45:15 That's been a nice bonus for us.
08:45:16 In general, we did preserve some of the trees.
08:45:23 These are youngish trees that are going to grow to
08:45:26 a nice maturity, I hope.
08:45:27 As far as the elevation, you know, these are the
08:45:35 two street facades facing the interstate or Carmen
08:45:40 Street.
08:45:41 And on Hubert Avenue it was mentioned in the
08:45:45 report we're providing a wall around some of the
08:45:48 space at the corner to provide more privacy for
08:45:52 those units.
08:45:53 I have a rendering that will illustrate that
08:45:57 nicely for you, hopefully.
08:45:58 Please ignore the trees.
08:46:04 Wasn't aware what vegetation was on the site.
08:46:07 But this is the configuration of the building
08:46:09 looking towards the southeast.
08:46:11 That's some of the privacy wall.
08:46:15 Done a lot of variety with the elevation.
08:46:17 Hopefully make it look attractive.
08:46:19 I did receive a letter, and I believe you were
08:46:32 copied on it from the Westshore palms neighborhood
08:46:37 association.
08:46:38 The conclusion was we have no objection to the
08:46:40 project and would urge approval for the PD.
08:46:43 As far as the minor corrections that need to be
08:46:49 done for the tree table and the notes, we will
08:46:53 accommodate those in between readings.
08:46:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:46:57 Could you provide that letter for the record,
08:47:00 please?
08:47:02 >> Yes, I will.
08:47:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:47:04 Any questions for petitioner from anyone on the
08:47:06 Council?
08:47:06 Okay.
08:47:07 Is there anyone in the public that would like to
08:47:10 make any comments on item number 10, REZ 16-19.
08:47:13 I have a motion to close by Ms. Montelione.
08:47:17 I have a second by Mr. Maniscalco.
08:47:19 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
08:47:21 saying aye.
08:47:21 Any opposed?
08:47:23 Thank you.
08:47:26 Mr. Maniscalco, please take number 10.
08:47:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Thank you very much.
08:47:29 Ordinance presented for first reading
08:47:31 consideration.
08:47:32 An ordinance rezoning property in the general
08:47:33 vicinity of 505 North Hubert Avenue in the City of
08:47:35 Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in
08:47:38 section 1 from zoning district classification
08:47:40 RS-50, residential single-family, to PD planned
08:47:44 development, residential, single-family attached,
08:47:46 providing an effective date.
08:47:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Maniscalco, second
08:47:50 from Mr. Cohen.
08:47:51 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
08:47:53 saying aye.
08:47:54 Any opposed?
08:47:54 Thank you.
08:47:55 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
08:47:57 Second reading and adoption will be on May 5th
08:47:59 at 9:30 a.m.
08:48:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:48:05 Item number 11.
08:48:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Item number 11.
08:48:14 Abbye Feeley, Land Development Coordination.
08:48:16 The last item of the night.
08:48:17 The request is case number REZ 16-27.
08:48:24 It's located at 2333 west Hillsborough Avenue.
08:48:28 The request before you tonight is from CI,
08:48:32 commercial intensive, and CG, commercial general,
08:48:35 to PD, planned development, parcel A, office,
08:48:40 medical and business professional, clinic and
08:48:43 laboratory and parcel B, all CI uses.
08:48:46 There are a few waivers being requested.
08:48:49 The first is to reduce the required parking from
08:48:51 387 to 245 for the combination of uses that may
08:48:56 occupy the building, which is a 37% reduction.
08:49:00 The second is to reduce the required number of
08:49:03 loading berths from 4 to 1.
08:49:05 The last is to allow nonresidential access to a
08:49:09 local street West Comanche Avenue.
08:49:12 Many of you know, this is the old Sweetbay grocery
08:49:17 store at the corner of Hillsborough and Armenia.
08:49:20 And they are asking to really rezone from the CI
08:49:26 and CG to this PD to get the access to the local
08:49:29 street and the parking reduction and the loading
08:49:34 berth reduction for the reuse of the existing
08:49:37 supermarket as an office, medical, and clinic.
08:49:43 And clinic is the highest parking ratio in the
08:49:47 city at seven spaces per thousand.
08:49:53 >> Good evening, Council members.
08:49:55 David Hay again with your Planning Commission
08:49:56 staff.
08:49:57 I have been sworn.
08:49:59 We end the night up in the university planning
08:50:02 district for this last case.
08:50:05 Like Abbye said, located at the northeast corner
08:50:07 of West Hillsborough Avenue and North Armenia
08:50:10 Avenue.
08:50:11 It is a mixed use corridor village as defined by
08:50:15 the comprehensive plan.
08:50:16 It is a 5.92-acre subject site.
08:50:22 Both North Armenia Avenue and West Hillsborough
08:50:25 are both designated transit emphasis corridors.
08:50:28 And good for those two corridors, there actually
08:50:33 is transit in those corridors.
08:50:34 Route 14 and route 34 connect the subject site to
08:50:38 a number of the activity centers within the city,
08:50:41 including downtown Tampa and the Yukon Netpark and
08:50:49 northwest transfer centers.
08:50:50 The site also is not located within an evacuation
08:50:53 zone.
08:50:53 On to the aerial, of course, the subject site
08:50:55 right in the center, North Armenia Avenue running
08:50:58 north-south.
08:50:59 We've got west Hillsborough Avenue.
08:51:02 As you can see, there's a lot of commercial uses
08:51:05 along this section of Hillsborough Avenue, and
08:51:10 Armenia Avenue is more medical office and general
08:51:14 office uses with some scattered commercial uses.
08:51:18 The residential areas, you can see are
08:51:21 predominantly single-family detached with some
08:51:25 scattered multifamily, mostly closer to corridors.
08:51:31 On to the future land use map, kind of validates
08:51:36 the aerial.
08:51:39 The subject site and all this red is that
08:51:41 community commercial 35, up to the CI zoning
08:51:46 district.
08:51:47 You then actually get over into that community
08:51:50 mixed use-35 to the west of Armenia, and then
08:51:55 behind the subject site, you've got the
08:51:57 residential 10.
08:51:58 You've got some also residential 20 over on Mohawk
08:52:04 throughout the area.
08:52:05 The applicant is seeking through this rezoning
08:52:08 petition to allow for the redevelopment of the
08:52:10 former Sweetbay grocery store into that medical
08:52:13 office and clinic.
08:52:14 The proposed site plan does include new pedestrian
08:52:19 connections from the main building entrance to
08:52:21 both north Armenia Avenue and West Hillsborough
08:52:24 Avenue.
08:52:25 That was something strongly supported by the comp
08:52:27 plan, especially that it's located on the transit
08:52:30 emphasis corridors.
08:52:31 Also, additional greenspace is being provided
08:52:34 above what was originally developed in 1979, which
08:52:36 wasn't much.
08:52:37 In 1979.
08:52:39 Overall, the proposed redevelopment is comparable
08:52:42 and compatible with the surrounding development
08:52:44 pattern, and the development pattern envisioned
08:52:46 under that community commercial 35 future land use
08:52:50 designation.
08:52:51 Therefore, based on those findings and the goals,
08:52:53 objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan,
08:52:56 the Planning Commission staff finds the proposed
08:52:59 plan development consistent with the Tampa
08:53:01 comprehensive plan.
08:53:02 Thank you.
08:53:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:53:08 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you, David.
08:53:09 Abbye Feeley, Land Development.
08:53:10 I just wanted to go over one thing, because the
08:53:13 staff report that was filed with you all does say
08:53:16 CI.
08:53:16 And when I was actually out of the office last
08:53:21 week and it came to my attention that this tiny
08:53:26 little jog right there is the CG portion.
08:53:33 I did verbally correct it.
08:53:35 I corrected it with Debbie Crawford as well so the
08:53:37 ordinance is correct this evening.
08:53:38 That's actually just an access that I'll show you
08:53:42 that picture.
08:53:43 Of the property.
08:53:47 Somebody actually thought that Howard Avenue was
08:53:54 continued on that side of the street.
08:53:56 And we were having a discussion about that.
08:53:59 But that's just an access way into the shopping
08:54:01 center.
08:54:01 Went over the waivers with you.
08:54:09 The request tonight is to utilize, reutilize the
08:54:13 55,211-square-foot commercial structure that is on
08:54:18 there and was constructed as a grocery store with
08:54:21 current ingress and egress on west Hillsborough,
08:54:24 North Armenia Avenue and West Comanche.
08:54:26 The pictures I'll show you tonight shows that
08:54:29 there has been activity on the property.
08:54:31 These uses that they are asking for tonight are
08:54:34 allowable uses that could go in there.
08:54:37 With that change from grocery, retail, convenience
08:54:41 goods to medical clinic, it is an intensification
08:54:44 of use, which results in the loss of the access
08:54:49 onto Comanche, which is one of the waivers that is
08:54:52 being requested from you tonight.
08:54:54 In addition to that, the intensification of use
08:54:57 requires substantially more parking spaces, which
08:55:01 is also being requested as a waiver this evening.
08:55:06 The last piece in this request tonight is the
08:55:11 little outparcel here that's called out as parcel
08:55:13 B on your site plan that would allow for all CI
08:55:17 uses.
08:55:17 One modification I'm asking for is that the
08:55:22 drive-through request that's on the site plan that
08:55:24 asks that the drive-through be an allowed use, it
08:55:27 is not an allowable use in CI.
08:55:30 It is a special use 1.
08:55:32 I'm asking that that be corrected.
08:55:33 So in terms of new development, the existing store
08:55:37 is going to stay and then you would have new
08:55:40 development on that outparcel.
08:55:41 Based on utilization of the entire structure, the
08:55:46 55,000 at the 7 per thousand, total of 387 parking
08:55:51 spaces, 245 are being provided.
08:55:54 A waiver is being requested for the deficit and
08:55:59 both Land Development and transportation are
08:56:00 finding that request inconsistent as it is a 37%
08:56:04 reduction.
08:56:06 In my comments I did ask that potentially they
08:56:08 could go ahead and limit the amount of clinic, and
08:56:12 that way the parking waiver would not be as large,
08:56:15 but in relation to adaptive reuse of the
08:56:19 structure, that is what is going to be requested.
08:56:21 I'll go ahead and show you some pictures of the
08:56:26 site.
08:56:28 As you can see in the aerial prior to the activity
08:56:35 taking place, these islands.
08:56:37 There weren't many plantings, trees.
08:56:40 We have had the opportunity, and there is a
08:56:41 comment in the report from natural resources in
08:56:43 relation to the opportunity to improve a lot of
08:56:46 those islands and provide some plantings where
08:56:49 there were not plantings before.
08:56:51 So there was some restriping.
08:56:53 You can see that the building has been reskinned,
08:56:57 and improvements are being made.
08:57:00 This is from the access coming off of Hillsborough
08:57:07 into the site.
08:57:11 The small cutout to the west is the Montserrat
08:57:15 restaurant.
08:57:16 To the east vacant commercial.
08:57:18 And then paragon music.
08:57:19 This is a look back from the site toward
08:57:22 Hillsborough where Thornton's is located at the
08:57:24 intersection.
08:57:25 Some of the parking.
08:57:27 There is an Aaron's rent to own at the northwest
08:57:31 corner of the site that's not part of this
08:57:33 application.
08:57:33 That is a separate parcel.
08:57:35 Here is the Thornton's to the south and just a few
08:57:38 more pictures of the site.
08:57:40 Provided this for Mr. Hay to show a pedestrian
08:57:49 connection from Hillsborough all the way to the
08:57:51 site.
08:57:51 I did walk that as well.
08:57:53 We had a talk a lot about that at DRC and
08:57:56 incorporating the improvements in to allow for
08:57:59 pedestrians.
08:57:59 So thank you for entertaining me with those last
08:58:02 couple of photos.
08:58:03 There are modifications required in between first
08:58:08 and second reading.
08:58:09 Those are provided in your revision sheet should
08:58:12 it be the pleasure of Council to approve this
08:58:14 application this evening.
08:58:15 Thank you.
08:58:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:58:16 Petitioner?
08:58:21 >> Truett Gardner.
08:58:23 400 north Ashley.
08:58:24 I'll be extremely brief.
08:58:26 It's been hard to keep it a secret since it's been
08:58:29 under construction.
08:58:30 We've talked to a lot of neighbors.
08:58:31 Not only are they inquisitive, I found they really
08:58:35 like to talk a lot.
08:58:36 They are all thrilled.
08:58:38 They view this as a good shot in the arm for their
08:58:40 neighborhood.
08:58:41 I did want to briefly address two of the waivers.
08:58:44 One is the Comanche access.
08:58:48 Which is this access point here.
08:58:55 As Abbye mentioned, it's already existing.
08:58:57 We went back and looked at historical aerials, it
08:59:00 appears that it's existed all the way back to 1979
08:59:03 when the Sweetbay was built.
08:59:05 The other thing that's interesting, it's
08:59:08 immediately across the street from another
08:59:09 commercial access point.
08:59:11 So it's not your scenario that -- where you've got
08:59:14 a residential structure across.
08:59:17 Secondly, you'll remember a couple of weeks ago,
08:59:19 MLK and Armenia hearing, this is the same
08:59:23 developer, similar type of development.
08:59:25 This is more geared toward orthopedics.
08:59:28 It's a multitude of different doctor, medical
08:59:32 uses, and that was the justification for the
08:59:35 reduction in parking before.
08:59:36 This is the exact same scenario.
08:59:40 100% transparent is higher this go around, but
08:59:44 that's because they are using the existing
08:59:46 building and about 20% of it is unusable.
08:59:49 So when you use net square footage versus gross
08:59:52 square footage, we're actually providing more
08:59:54 parking here than we were at the approval MLK and
08:59:58 Armenia.
09:00:00 We're happy to answer any questions you may have.
09:00:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: For months, I've been looking
09:00:05 at that and finally I called city official and
09:00:11 asked what was going there.
09:00:12 They told me what was going there.
09:00:14 I never thought anything about it.
09:00:16 Now I come here and see the zoning.
09:00:18 You mean to tell me somebody spent that kind of
09:00:20 money and didn't know what they were doing?
09:00:23 I'm very sincere when I say that.
09:00:26 I say wow.
09:00:27 I thought I was the only one that had a one-cell
09:00:31 brain.
09:00:31 Your developer has a one-cell brain.
09:00:37 >> He wants to get paid, Mr. Miranda.
09:00:39 I don't think he will answer that question.
09:00:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Montelione.
09:00:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:00:43 The three waivers and the only one that really
09:00:53 comes into play is the first one, which is the
09:00:55 reduction of 37% of parking, which puts you in the
09:01:02 inconsistent category as far as transportation
09:01:04 goes.
09:01:04 So I think what is putting you there is that it's
09:01:12 classified abundance of square footage is
09:01:15 classified as clinic.
09:01:16 >> Correct.
09:01:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is this all one tenant or are
09:01:20 these going to be different physicians or
09:01:23 practitioners?
09:01:24 >> No.
09:01:25 It is the exact same scenario as the MLK.
09:01:27 And to what staff has done correctly is they have
09:01:31 made a worst-case assumption that it's 100%
09:01:35 clinic, which from our standpoint, from a
09:01:37 permitting standpoint is easier because the
09:01:40 tenants come and go.
09:01:42 They'll be able to maintain that flexibility.
09:01:44 But from a practical standpoint, it is not 100%
09:01:48 clinic.
09:01:48 One problem I discussed with Ms. Moreda prior to
09:01:53 the last hearing, the definition of clinic versus
09:01:56 medical office.
09:01:56 The true distinction is the word "equipment."
09:01:59 Medical equipment.
09:02:00 But when I think of that, I think of an MRI.
09:02:04 But it could easily be defined as a stethoscope.
09:02:08 So she didn't quite know how to peg that.
09:02:10 So she said let's just call the whole thing
09:02:13 clinic.
09:02:13 So that's what we did at MLK and that's what we're
09:02:16 doing here on Hillsborough.
09:02:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would imagine some will be
09:02:20 professional office.
09:02:21 Whoever is practicing there will have office
09:02:24 space.
09:02:24 >> Correct.
09:02:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: It's not all going to be clinic
09:02:27 from stem to stern.
09:02:29 >> Right.
09:02:29 Where I'm going with this is my developer, client,
09:02:34 does have greater than one brain cell.
09:02:37 And they want their patients to be happy.
09:02:39 They want their tenants to be happy.
09:02:42 And so the market really drives us.
09:02:44 They have done this in multiple locations, in
09:02:46 Texas and in Florida, and this is a parking mix
09:02:49 that they are very comfortable with.
09:02:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:02:54 >>HARRY COHEN: I just want to say I think the risk
09:02:57 is really yours in terms of this parking waiver.
09:03:01 Because if you have a tenant mix that requires
09:03:06 more parking, ultimately you're the one that will
09:03:08 have the problem.
09:03:09 >> Absolutely.
09:03:12 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you.
09:03:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Montelione.
09:03:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Oh, sorry.
09:03:15 It said in the staff report when I read it, it
09:03:17 said that the fear was that people would be
09:03:19 parking out in the neighborhood, and that there's
09:03:22 residential to the north, and if you are operating
09:03:25 a clinic, I don't think people are going to be
09:03:27 walking really far.
09:03:29 >> That is true.
09:03:29 >>LISA MONTELIONE: They are just going to peruse
09:03:33 the parking lot --
09:03:34 >> Back to MLK.
09:03:36 I didn't want to belabor it again.
09:03:38 The intent is to capture people in one development
09:03:40 so they can see multiple doctors, have their
09:03:43 imaging done, and then go about their business as
09:03:47 opposed to having to drive around multiple
09:03:49 locations.
09:03:50 >> Thank you.
09:03:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anything else, Mr. Gardner?
09:03:52 >> That is it.
09:03:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions or comments to
09:03:55 Mr. Gardner or to staff?
09:03:56 Is there anyone in the public that would like to
09:03:59 speak on item number 11, REZ 16-27.
09:04:03 >> Move to close.
09:04:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion to close by
09:04:05 Ms. Montelione.
09:04:07 Second by Mr. Maniscalco.
09:04:08 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
09:04:10 saying aye.
09:04:11 Any opposed?
09:04:12 Thank you.
09:04:12 Ms. Montelione, will you please take number 11.
09:04:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Certainly, sir.
09:04:18 I move an ordinance being presented for first
09:04:20 reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning
09:04:22 property in the general vicinity of 2333 west
09:04:25 Hillsborough Avenue in the City of Tampa, Florida
09:04:27 and more particularly described in section 1 from
09:04:29 zoning district classifications CI commercial
09:04:32 intensive and CG commercial general to PD planned
09:04:34 development parcel A office, medical and
09:04:37 business/professional, clinic and laboratory,
09:04:41 parcel B all commercial intensive CI uses
09:04:43 providing an effective date with changes made
09:04:45 between first and second reading.
09:04:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione.
09:04:48 Second from Mr. Cohen.
09:04:49 All in favor, indicate by aye.
09:04:51 Any opposed?
09:04:52 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
09:04:54 Second reading and adoption will be on May 5th
09:04:56 at 9:30 a.m.
09:04:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:04:58 Thank you for attending.
09:05:01 Okay, if I could, information reports.
09:05:06 Mr. Montelione, I'll take you first.
09:05:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:05:09 I have one and it will sound familiar because I
09:05:12 made it this morning at CRA.
09:05:13 I'm making a motion requesting Antoinette triplet
09:05:16 to attend Tampa City Council May 19th at 9 a.m.
09:05:19 to discuss the point in time homeless count.
09:05:22 I meant to do that as a City Council motion, not
09:05:25 as a CRA motion.
09:05:26 So it will be withdrawn at CRA when I get the
09:05:29 opportunity to do that.
09:05:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
09:05:30 We have a motion from Ms. Montelione.
09:05:32 A second from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:05:34 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
09:05:37 saying aye.
09:05:37 Any opposed?
09:05:38 Thank you.
09:05:38 Mr. Maniscalco, anything?
09:05:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I would like to make a motion
09:05:44 that we present or I'll present a commendation to
09:05:47 urban E recycling on April 21st at the Tampa
09:05:51 Theater.
09:05:53 It's an event called Earth day eve.
09:05:56 They were recently featured in the Tampa Tribune
09:05:58 in a front-page story regarding the importance in
09:06:01 how their business operates in recycling old
09:06:05 electronics instead of tossing them out in the
09:06:07 trash, they recycle them, take the metals out,
09:06:10 process them and whatnot.
09:06:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from
09:06:14 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:06:14 Second from Ms. Montelione.
09:06:16 All in favor of the motion, please indicate by
09:06:18 saying aye.
09:06:18 Any opposed?
09:06:19 Thank you.
09:06:20 Anything else, sir?
09:06:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Also, a commendation was
09:06:23 presented last night at the Ybor City lions club
09:06:28 awards dinner to the Newman family for their
09:06:30 contributions to Ybor City and the community.
09:06:35 I guess I have to make the motion here to approve
09:06:38 that.
09:06:39 Retroactively.
09:06:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We do put you in time-out later on.
09:06:46 Motion by Mr. Maniscalco.
09:06:49 Second from Mr. Cohen.
09:06:51 All those in favor, please indicate by saying aye.
09:06:53 That's your punishment for today.
09:06:56 Anything else, sir?
09:06:59 Mr. Cohen.
09:07:00 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
09:07:02 I have two items.
09:07:03 The first is I'd like to make a motion that we
09:07:07 receive and file the City of Tampa's CAFR report
09:07:10 on April 21st at 9 a.m. under staff reports.
09:07:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
09:07:16 Second by Ms. Montelione.
09:07:17 All those in favor of that motion, indicate by
09:07:20 saying aye.
09:07:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Did you say you wanted that at
09:07:25 9:00 or staff report?
09:07:26 >>HARRY COHEN: Under staff reports.
09:07:28 I believe we're still setting them at 9 a.m. until
09:07:31 the change is made to the order of business, which
09:07:34 is on our next agenda.
09:07:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Yes, but you also adopt that
09:07:39 during the approval of the agenda.
09:07:41 It's up to you how you wish to do that.
09:07:45 I just want the clarification.
09:07:48 >>HARRY COHEN: Actually.
09:07:48 This was a request from Ms. Little.
09:07:50 I don't even expect her to appear.
09:07:52 She just asked that we receive and file the CAFR
09:07:55 at that time.
09:07:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Terrific.
09:07:56 Thank you, sir.
09:07:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Second item, I'd like to make a
09:08:00 motion we provide a welcome letter to the Ancient
09:08:02 Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles Mystic Shrine of
09:08:06 North and South America for the 123rd Imperial
09:08:08 Council Session and the 105th Imperial Court
09:08:12 Session Shriner's Convention that will take place
09:08:14 in Tampa, Florida, from August 12th to 18th.
09:08:17 This letter is to be prepared and delivered to
09:08:19 them at that time.
09:08:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
09:08:22 Second from Ms. Montelione.
09:08:23 All those in favor of that motion, indicate by
09:08:25 saying aye.
09:08:26 Any opposed?
09:08:27 Thank you.
09:08:27 Anything else, sir.
09:08:28 >>HARRY COHEN: That is it.
09:08:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Capin, any new business?
09:08:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No new business.
09:08:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick, any new business?
09:08:36 Chairman Miranda.
09:08:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I was just thinking I would
09:08:39 like to make a suggestion, then I'll make it in
09:08:43 the form of a motion.
09:08:44 The city parking garages cannot be sold in the
09:08:52 city of Tampa unless approved by the citizens.
09:08:52 The reason I say that, parking is becoming a very,
09:08:53 very thing that we need in the future, and with
09:08:57 the influx of people coming into the city and
09:09:00 downtown, to the corridors, Ybor City and
09:09:02 downtown, we should have a parking garage remain
09:09:06 public -- I mean, governmental.
09:09:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'll second it.
09:09:12 And not only do we need the parking garage for the
09:09:15 public, we need them for City Council.
09:09:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'll make sure the next garage
09:09:24 is named Yolie Capin.
09:09:36 >>HARRY COHEN: What you're saying, like city
09:09:37 parks, for example, which you would require a
09:09:40 referendum.
09:09:42 I support that.
09:09:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion by Mr. Miranda.
09:09:44 A second from Ms. Capin with a friendly question
09:09:48 from Mr. Cohen.
09:09:49 All those in favor of that motion, please indicate
09:09:51 by saying aye.
09:09:52 Any opposed.
09:09:54 >> Move to receive and file.
09:09:57 >>THE CLERK: Could I ask that the last motion be
09:09:59 formally stated?
09:10:00 There was a lot of discussion.
09:10:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The City Attorney to draft an
09:10:05 ordinance just like the park ordinance in
09:10:08 reference to city garages that are owned by the
09:10:13 city that cannot be sold by the city unless
09:10:15 approved by a referendum by the majority of the
09:10:19 voters.
09:10:20 >>THE CLERK: Thank you.
09:10:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Are you clear, Mr. Clerk?
09:10:23 >>THE CLERK: Yes, sir.
09:10:26 A date was added, May 5th is the date.
09:10:30 It's already been carried.
09:10:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Miranda has a motion to receive
09:10:33 and file.
09:10:33 I think I had a second from Ms. Montelione.
09:10:35 All in favor of the motion, indicate by saying
09:10:37 aye.
09:10:37 Thank you.
09:10:38 Any opposed?
09:10:39 All right.
09:10:40 Is there anyone in the public that would wish to
09:10:42 speak at this moment?
09:10:43 Mr. Hay, I know you're not quite a member of the
09:10:46 public, but if you'd like to say something.
09:10:48 >>DAVID HAY: Kind of a member.
09:10:50 Chairman, I know our Planning Commission has
09:10:55 requested that you set for public hearing, I
09:10:58 believe, the plan amendments 16-01A and 16-01b and
09:11:05 16-02 for the May 26th evening agenda.
09:11:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You request that of us.
09:11:15 >>DAVID HAY: Yes.
09:11:19 6.
09:11:21 I think Tony Garcia communicated with your office
09:11:24 I think on setting it.
09:11:26 But do I believe it's 6.
09:11:28 It's usually 6.
09:11:30 5:30?
09:11:33 >> I'll move it at 5:30.
09:11:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
09:11:36 A second from Ms. Montelione.
09:11:38 Clerk, are you clear on the motion?
09:11:39 >>THE CLERK: What was that date?
09:11:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: May 26th.
09:11:44 >> 5:30.
09:11:47 >>DAVID HAY: Plan amendment numbers are 16-01a,
09:11:51 16-01b and 16-02.
09:11:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
09:11:57 All right.
09:11:58 We have a motion from Mr. Cohen.
09:12:00 Second from Ms. Montelione.
09:12:01 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by
09:12:03 saying aye.
09:12:04 Any opposed?
09:12:05 All right.
09:12:05 Thank you.
09:12:05 Anyone else in the public?
09:12:07 If not, we are adjourned.