TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, June 23, 2016.
9:00 a.m. Session
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09:05:24 [Banging Gavel]
09:05:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Tampa City Council is called to order.
09:05:28 Chair yields to Mr. Harry Cohen.
09:05:31 All you clerk people, you know that means be quiet.
09:05:36 Viola.
09:05:36 [ Laughter ]
09:05:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Cohen, please.
09:05:40 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
09:05:41 Welcome our very good friend the Reverend Vicki Walker
09:05:44 this morning.
09:05:44 She's the minister of missions and out reach at Hyde Park
09:05:48 United Methodist Church.
09:05:49 She's going to lead us in our invocation and please stand
09:05:52 and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.
09:05:55 >> Thank you.
09:05:58 Let us pray.
09:05:59 God of grace and mercy, thank you for our City Council
09:06:02 and their work on behalf of all of our citizens.
09:06:06 Thank you for their visible support of our neighbors in
09:06:08 Orlando, by displaying the rainbow lights and flag on our
09:06:12 old city hall.
09:06:14 Just as the rainbow was first sent by you to be a visible
09:06:17 reminder to the people that you would keep your promises
09:06:20 and never leave them alone, so too may the rainbow remind
09:06:24 us that we are never alone and we are connected to you
09:06:27 and one another.
09:06:28 Guide our Council in their decision-making on ordinances
09:06:31 and budget items that affect our community.
09:06:34 Give them patience to listen to each other and the
09:06:37 community and wisdom to balance all of the needs and all
09:06:41 of the resources.
09:06:42 May they be guided by their character and convictions and
09:06:46 have a spirit of service.
09:06:47 We ask this in your holy name, Amen.
09:06:51 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:07:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:07:08 Roll call, please.
09:07:10 [Roll Call]
09:07:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:07:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:07:17 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
09:07:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:07:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Our first items on the agenda -- excuse
09:07:23 me, our first item is the approval of the addenda.
09:07:27 Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:07:30 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:07:32 aye.
09:07:33 Any opposed? Thank you.
09:07:34 Our first item up, our ceremony activities.
09:07:37 To do the first presentation to Ms. Viola Luke is
09:07:41 Councilman Charlie Miranda.
09:07:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Honorable chairman, Tampa City
09:07:54 Council, honorable members of Tampa City Council, as I
09:07:57 look up, I see four wise men.
09:07:59 [ Laughter ]
09:08:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: But I didn't say he was here.
09:08:05 It is my pleasure this morning to be in front of you this
09:08:09 morning as the Council, representing a commendation to
09:08:12 Viola Luke.
09:08:14 You know when you go back and you started in 1972 with
09:08:17 the Metropolitan Planning Organization with the City of
09:08:20 Tampa, you worked for many years as the executive to
09:08:24 Bobbie Bowden.
09:08:25 Not the coach, but Bowden who worked here diligently like
09:08:29 you did for many years and did a wonderful job for the
09:08:32 City of Tampa.
09:08:33 Like yourself, you help people in need of help.
09:08:35 In fact, you had the department of community outreach
09:08:40 efforts, including fair housing, discrimination
09:08:43 complaints.
09:08:44 You did many, many things in that department.
09:08:47 In your later years you came to work for Miss Shirley,
09:08:50 like I call her, the city clerk's office.
09:08:52 You've done an outstanding job there for the last four or
09:08:55 five years.
09:08:56 I don't recall how many but I know there were at least
09:08:59 four or five.
09:08:59 But what is most interesting is that for 26 years you
09:09:02 faithfully served as the coordinator for the city
09:09:06 employees holiday food basket.
09:09:07 And you helped over 5,000 boxes of food go out to over
09:09:13 3,000 families.
09:09:14 And that's an outstanding thing.
09:09:16 And more importantly, you've done something that only one
09:09:19 person maybe has done more than you.
09:09:24 No, it's a lot of people --
09:09:26 [ Laughter ]
09:09:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I met your husband, I met everybody.
09:09:33 You have served under, how many mayors?
09:09:36 >> Nine.
09:09:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Nine mayors.
09:09:39 Let me name them for you.
09:09:41 They are Greco, Cheney, Copeland, Poe, Martinez,
09:09:46 Freedman, Greco, Iorio and Buckhorn.
09:09:51 How did you do that?
09:09:52 [ Laughter ]
09:09:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I would've retired long time ago
09:09:57 working for nine of them.
09:09:59 I'm only joking.
09:10:00 They've done an outstanding job but you have been able to
09:10:02 do that and help people and that's what life is all
09:10:05 about.
09:10:05 Helping people.
09:10:06 And you've done a wonderful job and your many years of
09:10:10 service be will never be forgotten because you're a hard
09:10:13 person to replace and you're a wonderful person besides
09:10:16 that.
09:10:16 I talked to you recently in the hall when I see you, when
09:10:19 I'm in the office and it's a marvelous thing for you and
09:10:23 on behalf of Tampa City Council we make this commendation
09:10:25 to you for all your years of service.
09:10:27 And I'm not going to name how many.
09:10:30 But it's Hank Aaron's number.
09:10:36 You got that number?
09:10:37 All right.
09:10:38 Viola, thank you very much for all your years of service.
09:10:41 [ Applause ]
09:10:42 >> Really, Charlie said so much that I really don't need
09:10:53 to say as much as I might've said, which is probably a
09:10:56 good thing for everyone.
09:10:57 But I do want to thank the Councilmembers for recognizing
09:11:01 my many, many, many, many years of service.
09:11:05 And I want to thank the city clerk's office for the
09:11:10 service I've been able to give them for the past six
09:11:12 years.
09:11:13 I found another home and my first home was with Bobby
09:11:17 Bowden as the department of community affairs, assistant
09:11:21 and aide.
09:11:23 And Bobby remains somebody that I deeply respect and
09:11:28 certainly one of my best friends.
09:11:30 Every day we come to work and we put a face to the City
09:11:38 of Tampa.
09:11:38 We give it some humanity.
09:11:40 People come in, they need help.
09:11:43 They want their concerns heard at least.
09:11:45 And that is something we strive to do every day and give
09:11:49 good customer service the best we possibly can.
09:11:52 And I'm proud to be a city employee.
09:11:59 Certainly I do feel a sense of accomplishment with the
09:12:03 holiday basket program.
09:12:05 I was the founding coordinator under Mayor Freedman.
09:12:10 And I devoted a lot of my holiday time, as my family and
09:12:15 husbands know, to the program.
09:12:18 There's a lot of behind-the-scenes work that has to go on
09:12:22 to make it successful.
09:12:23 And it has become very popular with the employees.
09:12:28 And I'm glad to see that the tradition continues.
09:12:31 And I want to thank Rosemary for that.
09:12:33 Her good leadership.
09:12:36 Rosemary Soto.
09:12:38 And most of all, I really want to thank my wonderful
09:12:42 husband.
09:12:42 Bill is the best.
09:12:45 When he retired a couple of years ago I told him his new
09:12:50 job was to take care of me and get me out of the house
09:12:54 every morning.
09:12:55 [ Laughter ]
09:12:56 >> So that I could come to work and fulfill all my 7
09:13:01 years under the drop program.
09:13:03 And he did that faithfully.
09:13:05 Avenue morning I wake up to a fresh cup of coffee and
09:13:09 then he packs my little snacks for the day.
09:13:12 Some of them healthy.
09:13:14 [ Laughter ]
09:13:16 >> He also makes another thermos of coffee for me to take
09:13:21 on the road and then he carries all my little bags to the
09:13:24 car.
09:13:25 And puts me in the car safely and waves me bye-bye.
09:13:29 And then when I get home, there's smell throughout the
09:13:35 whole house, where he's cooking something wonderful in
09:13:38 the kitchen for us.
09:13:39 And I'm sure that I would be the envy of many, many wives
09:13:45 in that regard.
09:13:46 He is my best friend.
09:13:49 He's my companion, my favorite companion.
09:13:53 And I'm sure we'll have many years together having a lot
09:13:57 of fun, which is something we do avenue day.
09:14:03 And I'm looking forward to having the time to sleep in,
09:14:07 relax, do yoga again, get back to my art, do some crafts
09:14:14 and mainly just have a lot of fun and visit with my
09:14:19 family and my friends over the years that I've made here,
09:14:26 a lot of them here at the City of Tampa.
09:14:28 In fact, pretty much all of them.
09:14:30 All of my best friends have been here from the City of
09:14:32 Tampa.
09:14:33 So I've been very blessed.
09:14:35 And anyway, I think that's enough to be said about it.
09:14:38 But thanks, everyone.
09:14:42 [ Applause ]
09:14:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You're not getting off that easy, Vi.
09:14:55 Stay right there.
09:14:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Now, Vi, I have a question for you though.
09:15:18 And this is a hard question, which is, so did you start
09:15:21 working here before Charlie was on Council?
09:15:25 [ Laughter ]
09:15:26 >> I just want to know because, you know, we're wondering
09:15:30 whether or not you have the same number of years as
09:15:32 Charlie does.
09:15:33 So we are curious about that.
09:15:35 >> Well, I'm not really sure about that.
09:15:36 [ Laughter ]
09:15:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I was hoping for some secrets.
09:15:41 >> I remember Mr. Duncan though.
09:15:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We definitely appreciate your service to
09:15:45 the city.
09:15:46 44 years is a long time.
09:15:48 And you know, without a doubt everybody likes to take
09:15:51 pictures with you, so I'll talk while you're standing
09:15:54 still.
09:15:54 We hope that your retirement is as fun as your 44 years
09:15:59 have been here.
09:16:00 We know that we have enjoyed it, walking into the Council
09:16:04 avenue time I would see you, and I would wave to you
09:16:06 through the glass, as I was walking in, always had a
09:16:09 smile on your face.
09:16:10 Always had a bright and cheery demeanor whenever I would
09:16:13 talk to you.
09:16:14 And that really means a lot to me because you know, we
09:16:17 sit here temporarily, you know, we get termed out and we
09:16:20 leave.
09:16:20 You've seen a lot of different City Councilmen over the
09:16:24 years.
09:16:24 But you've stayed and made this place work and that's
09:16:27 really the greatest feeling I think that you should take
09:16:29 away from here.
09:16:31 As you made our city work and work well.
09:16:33 So thank you very much for your service.
09:16:35 >> Thank you.
09:16:35 [ Applause ]
09:16:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
09:16:41 Next up, we have a presentation to Dr. Yogi Goswami.
09:16:46 To do that presentation is Councilwoman Montelione.
09:16:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Good morning.
09:16:56 Good morning, Council.
09:17:00 Thank you for this opportunity to recognize one of our
09:17:05 outstanding citizens in the City of Tampa.
09:17:07 I've gotten to know Yogi and his wife -- where are you?
09:17:14 There you are.
09:17:15 Lovely Goswami and their family over the past self years.
09:17:19 And I can tell you their warm and generous nature and
09:17:24 hospitality, I feel like we are family.
09:17:28 And Lovely and I often get mistaken for being sisters.
09:17:32 Somebody told me once, oh, your sister is here.
09:17:39 I said unless she hopped the plane from New York and
09:17:42 surprised me, that's not my sister.
09:17:44 But, I am just honored to have you as a quasi-sister.
09:17:50 This morning, Tampa City Council proudly commends
09:17:56 Dr. Yogi's Goswami for being inducted into the Florida
09:18:00 inventors Hall of Fame for 2016.
09:18:02 You have spent much of your professional life dedicated
09:18:07 to studying solar technology.
09:18:09 And have used that knowledge in unique and exciting ways.
09:18:14 Through your inventions and technological break-throughs,
09:18:17 you have been able to radically improve the quality of
09:18:19 life for allergy and asthma sufferers throughout the
09:18:23 United States.
09:18:23 And I would dare say across the world.
09:18:25 During your prestigious career as an academic engineer,
09:18:30 entrepreneur and inventor, you have earned the admiration
09:18:33 of innovators from across the country.
09:18:37 Your professional achievements have been recognized by
09:18:40 the Florida inventors Hall of Fame as both exemplary and
09:18:43 laudable.
09:18:44 Therefore, Tampa City Council greats you and recognizes
09:18:48 you as a pioneering inventor for the indoor air quality
09:18:53 industry.
09:18:53 And it should've said go bulls!
09:18:58 Yogi is a proud faculty member and we're proud to have
09:19:06 him at the University of South Florida.
09:19:09 Congratulations, Yogi.
09:19:12 [ Applause ]
09:19:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Lovely wants to get a picture.
09:19:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Say a few words.
09:19:29 >> Well, thank you very much, Lisa and the City Council
09:19:35 for recognizing.
09:19:40 I've been around the world and I've got a lot of awards
09:19:44 and commendations, but this one means a lot to me.
09:19:51 When you are recognized by your home people and Tampa is
09:19:55 my home, that means a lot.
09:19:59 What I have for giving back to Tampa, Lisa sort of
09:20:07 alluded to it, that one of my inventions, which resulted
09:20:12 in four patents also resulted in a starts-up company in
09:20:17 Tampa.
09:20:18 With seed funding from investors in Tampa, it earned a
09:20:25 lot of funding from the Silicon Valley in California and
09:20:30 this is where my technology disinfect and detoxifies
09:20:37 indoor air, so that we can breathe the air the way we
09:20:42 were meant to breathe it.
09:20:44 And that is going to change the way we pick up our indoor
09:20:50 air in the future and the company is getting a lot of
09:20:55 rave reviews all over the world.
09:20:56 But I'm happy to say that God started here in Tampa.
09:20:59 Thank you.
09:21:01 [ Applause ]
09:21:02 >>LISA MONTELIONE: You know, one of the things that
09:21:09 drives any emerging city is the ability to grow and
09:21:17 develop companies.
09:21:18 And when we talk about start-ups and investors and what
09:21:24 the City of Tampa is able to accomplish, I think a lot is
09:21:28 due to your ability to do that and lead the way for other
09:21:33 companies to do that in the future.
09:21:36 So, the model that you presented with this company and
09:21:41 molecule, who I call MO, is a shining example to others
09:21:46 who say that we don't lead in this area in technological
09:21:52 advances.
09:21:53 We certainly do.
09:21:54 And Yogi is part of the University of South Florida's
09:21:58 multitude of patents that have been issued.
09:22:01 So thank you for putting us on the world stage and on the
09:22:04 map.
09:22:04 >> Thank you.
09:22:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
09:22:10 Next item on the agenda was a presentation to miss Kim
09:22:13 Denmark.
09:22:14 She is not available to be here today.
09:22:19 And we will get that commendation off to her at a later
09:22:24 date.
09:22:24 Item number 4 has been removed by virtue of our vote on
09:22:28 the addenda to the agenda.
09:22:30 Mr. Reddick, do you have a date set yet or are you just
09:22:33 going -- we'll wait until you coordinate with that group
09:22:36 to come back?
09:22:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Chair, I'm going to wait till I have
09:22:40 a chance to communicate with the particular individuals
09:22:44 to make sure they coincide with the date.
09:22:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
09:22:48 Appreciate it.
09:22:49 Next is up public comment.
09:22:51 Before we do public comment, I will make you aware that
09:22:53 we will take those folks that want to talk on items on
09:22:57 the agenda first.
09:22:57 Also, we will only take those items that are not set for
09:23:00 public hearing.
09:23:01 Those are items number, so if you're here to talk about
09:23:05 items 72 through 83, that will come up during our regular
09:23:11 public hearings on those items.
09:23:13 So any items prior to that that you want to come up and
09:23:17 speak, you're more than welcome to do so.
09:23:19 Please line up along the wall.
09:23:21 If you are here to speak on first items on the agenda.
09:23:24 Go ahead, Mr. Smith.
09:23:38 >> Actually, sir, I'm Ralph Smith but I'm going to yield
09:23:42 my time James Ransom.
09:23:44 >> Freddie Moore, I'm going to yield my time to
09:23:47 Mr. Ransom also.
09:23:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Shelby, before Mr. Ransom speaks, can
09:23:52 we get an additional two minutes for each one of those
09:23:55 speakers?
09:23:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Per Council's rules, normally there is
09:23:58 no opportunity to yield one's time during public comment.
09:24:02 It is Council's pleasure if they wish to make its own
09:24:05 accommodations by consent or by motion of Council.
09:24:08 Otherwise normally the speaker waiver form is employed
09:24:10 and it's only for public hearings.
09:24:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
09:24:12 Do I have a motion to include that to allow the
09:24:15 additional two minutes?
09:24:17 All right.
09:24:17 I have a motion from Mr. Maniscalco, second from
09:24:21 Mr. Miranda.
09:24:21 All in fave of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:24:23 aye.
09:24:24 Any opposed?
09:24:25 Okay.
09:24:25 You have five minutes, Mr. Ransom.
09:24:27 Appreciate you being here.
09:24:28 >> Thank you.
09:24:29 Good morning, Mr. Chair and City Council members.
09:24:31 As you all are very aware, I'm representing the Tampa
09:24:34 organization of black affairs.
09:24:35 We're non-profit, nonpartisan organization.
09:24:38 We don't endorse candidates and we don't fund campaigns.
09:24:42 I'm also representing the Saturday morning breakfast
09:24:45 group as well and the same conditions apply to that
09:24:49 organization.
09:24:50 There's a non-profit, nonpartisan status.
09:24:54 I personally, aside from my cousin Doug Jamerson when he
09:24:58 ran for office, I do not personally endorse candidates.
09:25:00 I do not fund campaigns for candidates.
09:25:02 I do that to keep a clean line between the organization I
09:25:05 represent and all the candidates that we talk to about,
09:25:07 all elected officials we talk to about issues on behalf
09:25:10 of the black community.
09:25:11 What we're talking about today are the letters that I
09:25:15 sent to you on behalf of those organizations regarding
09:25:17 your staff report today that will address the language in
09:25:22 some of your contracts that states good faith, which we
09:25:26 don't believe translates to actual spending with
09:25:29 companies.
09:25:29 We believe it's very much an American theme and it's very
09:25:34 reasonable to have fairness and equity, diversity and
09:25:38 economic inclusion of African-Americans among others that
09:25:41 are able to do business with the City of Tampa.
09:25:43 That's important to us because as taxpayers and voters
09:25:47 who happen to be African-American, we contribute to those
09:25:50 dollars that you spend to buy those goods and services.
09:25:53 So we want you to maybe sometimes create new law to
09:25:57 create new policies that may not even exist, to make sure
09:26:01 that it becomes an institutional normal way of the city
09:26:05 doing business, that you will include African-Americans
09:26:08 in how you spend money.
09:26:10 If you spend money with the economic development
09:26:12 corporation Tampa economic development corporation for
09:26:15 job creation programs and location programs, you need to
09:26:20 make sure that African-American, black folks are going to
09:26:22 get jobs.
09:26:23 That black people are going to build the buildings.
09:26:25 That black people are going to service the buildings when
09:26:27 they're finished and provide goods and services when
09:26:30 they're finished.
09:26:31 That is reasonable.
09:26:32 That's America.
09:26:33 That's what we should do.
09:26:34 And the city should always set the standard for others to
09:26:38 follow.
09:26:39 We now are flying a flag where Tampa or Channelside or
09:26:43 our community is a place where everyone can live, work,
09:26:46 play and stay.
09:26:47 And we add to that safely because we all want to be safe
09:26:51 in the community.
09:26:52 We want to prosper in the community.
09:26:54 It's very important that we include everyone, when you
09:26:57 say everyone, that includes us as well.
09:26:59 So the language you have that allow for some loopholes it
09:27:03 seems or sidesteps around the idea that equity and
09:27:07 fairness and diversity and economic inclusion may be
09:27:11 missed.
09:27:12 What you can do is look back at your own numbers, your
09:27:14 own facts will show you this.
09:27:16 That's why we ask you to provide that to us.
09:27:18 Tell us what the total budget is of the City of Tampa.
09:27:22 Total budget.
09:27:23 Tell us how much of that total budget for the last five
09:27:25 years you have spent out the door and you approved the
09:27:29 city administration spending out the door for all of your
09:27:32 goods and services and contracts.
09:27:34 Tell us what amount of that money is spent with
09:27:38 African-Americans.
09:27:39 And you will find that the percentage is not very high.
09:27:42 Out of 8 year term of your terms or any Mayor's term,
09:27:46 that might be up to $200 million a year or $1.6 billion
09:27:52 in eight years of two terms of a Mayor or any City
09:27:55 Council member.
09:27:55 You don't spend 10% of that, which is $160 million with
09:28:00 African-American-owned businesses.
09:28:02 You don't spend 10% of that, which is $16 million out of
09:28:05 that money.
09:28:06 You don't spend 10% of that, which is $1.6 million.
09:28:10 You may spend in the city between 160,000 to 1.6 million,
09:28:16 maybe.
09:28:16 Less than one tenth of one percent of the money you spend
09:28:19 in eight years, which could be around $1.6 billion is not
09:28:24 spent with African-American people.
09:28:26 Okay.
09:28:27 So that's just a fact.
09:28:29 Now, what you need to do is change that, that out come
09:28:33 because someone else is getting paid.
09:28:35 Someone else is prospering.
09:28:37 But we're sharing footing the money in the pot and that's
09:28:40 fair.
09:28:41 The same thing goes with hiring.
09:28:42 When you're hiring people here, wherever they are in the
09:28:46 organization, it's fair to represent the community.
09:28:48 So what percentage of this community's funds come from
09:28:52 African-American people into the pot?
09:28:54 It's a fair question.
09:28:55 It's not excluding anyone else.
09:28:58 It's about including everybody.
09:29:00 Okay.
09:29:01 It's about making sure that there is in fact an
09:29:05 institutional thing that you're doing here that makes it
09:29:08 normal, a normal way of life.
09:29:11 That is how the city does its business.
09:29:13 That's why we recommended to you to fine language and we
09:29:16 recommend to the Mayor that there's language and
09:29:18 performance management agreements.
09:29:20 That all his direct reports can have to be held
09:29:23 accountable and have consequences if they fail to perform
09:29:27 based upon this kind of performance management agreement.
09:29:30 That deals with equity, fairness and diversity and
09:29:34 economic inclusion for African-Americans among others.
09:29:37 With that, I'm willing to take any questions you have.
09:29:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, Mr. Ransom.
09:29:41 Mr. Reddick?
09:29:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Ransom, you made some valid points
09:29:45 here this morning.
09:29:46 And, but I have a question for you and that is, what do
09:29:50 you recommend -- I know we talk about good faith effort
09:29:54 and from what, speaking with Mr. Hart, he informed me
09:29:59 that there's some statutes, the reason why the good-faith
09:30:02 effort is in there, state, county statutes that allow
09:30:06 that to be in there.
09:30:07 What do you suggest how this should be hand, how can we
09:30:13 change that definition or termination of good faith
09:30:17 effort?
09:30:18 >> On behalf of TOBA -- I'm not speaking for myself
09:30:19 now -- we recommend you look at language that's going to
09:30:26 translate in folks actually getting paid.
09:30:29 So if you're going to have a contract, there needs to be
09:30:31 language that says you must demonstrate that you actually
09:30:34 paid African-American and other MBEs before you get any
09:30:38 money from the City of Tampa.
09:30:40 There must be a commitment like that in language.
09:30:42 Good faith is not going to translate to actually spending
09:30:46 money with anyone.
09:30:47 Because the way that works could conceivably side step
09:30:53 your requirement to make the result what you want it to
09:30:56 be.
09:30:56 I'll give you an example.
09:30:58 On the Benny project that we came here to talk to you, we
09:31:03 talked with Mr. Bennett.
09:31:04 He agreed with the idea they're going to either meet or
09:31:07 exceed whatever the City of Tampa MBE requirements were
09:31:11 with their $34 million road project and so forth.
09:31:14 They also are looking at doing the same thing with their
09:31:17 two plus B project.
09:31:19 We talked to the new CEO over there.
09:31:21 They're looking at doing that.
09:31:23 We think that language in anything we have to approve
09:31:26 here should be consistent with having those results.
09:31:30 So if you can look at contracts, if you can look at law,
09:31:36 if you can look at anything to make sure that the city
09:31:39 doesn't spend any money unless everyone is included
09:31:43 fairly, not sacrificing quality, not sacrificing service
09:31:48 or significantly costs, then this issue of whether or not
09:31:52 they're the exclusion will become moot.
09:31:54 So the language should be removed that says good faith
09:31:58 and actual spending needs to be in the language to show
09:32:02 that there's actually spending going on with
09:32:06 African-American-owned companies and other MBEs.
09:32:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick?
09:32:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: If Mr. Hart comes before us later on
09:32:17 today, and he's stating to us that because of the
09:32:22 statute, we cannot remove the good faith effort from the
09:32:27 statute, because of the statute, and it will take other
09:32:32 protocol for us to make that happen, speaking just for
09:32:37 the city, and we're going to have that chance to discuss
09:32:42 this with Mr. Hart, if we're bound by the statute, and I
09:32:51 don't think no one going to be here prepared to change
09:32:54 the statute, what other consideration would you suggest
09:33:00 to us if we're bound by the statute as Mr. Hart is going
09:33:06 to state to us?
09:33:07 >> Well, the beautiful thing about a city government,
09:33:10 City Council is that you set -- you make new laws.
09:33:13 It's also important that you may be research from Fred
09:33:16 Karl did as the county attorney when Cohen brothers that
09:33:22 control 80% aggregate of limerock in Florida, sued
09:33:27 Hillsborough County, that funded building MOSI and
09:33:30 challenged them on including MBEs in the project.
09:33:33 Fred Karl said we will take you to the state supreme
09:33:36 court and the U.S. Supreme Court to win this case.
09:33:39 And they did.
09:33:39 The county government took Cohen brothers to the U.S.
09:33:43 Supreme Court and the discount government made sure that
09:33:47 the MBE program that helped build MOSI include
09:33:50 African-American and other MBEs.
09:33:54 You have the power to make the statement on behalf of the
09:33:56 people to your lawyers, find the legal way for us to do
09:34:00 what we want you to do.
09:34:01 We want you to make sure that we don't have issues of
09:34:05 exclusion.
09:34:06 We want you to make sure that you have inclusion in
09:34:09 everything that we do with the funds that we spend on
09:34:12 behalf of all the people who put the money in the pot,
09:34:15 that we use to spend the city money to buy goods and
09:34:19 services.
09:34:20 So it is just fair.
09:34:21 You know, if you ask me and I don't sit on City Council.
09:34:24 I would be up there looking to my lawyer and looking to
09:34:27 the city and administration lawyer to find a legal way to
09:34:30 make sure that we don't have good faith language in
09:34:33 documents when we should be showing actual spending with
09:34:36 these companies.
09:34:36 Why do you have a list of MBEs in the first place?
09:34:41 Why do you have people being certified when they're not
09:34:43 getting any business?
09:34:44 That causes underpinning of frustration in our community
09:34:48 for sure.
09:34:49 So we come in peace.
09:34:50 We come in peace, we come with respect.
09:34:54 We come with diplomacy and civility.
09:34:57 But don't forget that communities like Ferguson happen
09:35:01 because of exclusion.
09:35:02 When you have problems where people have uprisings
09:35:07 because they feel left out, that's because there's not
09:35:09 good leadership.
09:35:10 Now we have good leadership.
09:35:11 So let's go ahead and execute some more leadership.
09:35:14 Create new law.
09:35:15 Create new policies.
09:35:17 Create new procedures, new practices instead of the
09:35:21 institutional way up that you change this situation that
09:35:24 again is normal to do this.
09:35:26 Now, I'm maybe talking a little loud because this ear is
09:35:31 closed today.
09:35:32 But I can hear you out of this one.
09:35:34 And I appreciate you listening.
09:35:36 We just want to make sure that you take some action.
09:35:40 We sent you letters.
09:35:41 We have asked for you to respond and we'd like for you to
09:35:43 take some action on this item.
09:35:46 Does anyone disagree with this notion?
09:35:48 Can you raise your hand and tell us.
09:35:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We're not taking a vote right now.
09:35:52 I want -- we have other councilmembers that need to ask
09:35:55 some questions.
09:35:56 Ms. Montelione?
09:35:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Suarez.
09:35:58 As you know, Mr. Ransom, I had a workshop scheduled last
09:36:02 week that did not happen and was continued because we
09:36:07 don't have another workshop session for quite a while.
09:36:10 We moved to put it on the July 14th agenda.
09:36:15 And you know, thank you for your leadership, all of you.
09:36:21 And I really hope that you're here to participate.
09:36:25 Unfortunately, because it is scheduled as a regular
09:36:29 agenda item, we're not going to have the format we have
09:36:32 in a workshop, which I'm sad that we won't because in
09:36:35 workshops, you know, everybody speaks and the public has
09:36:38 an opportunity to speak after they've heard what
09:36:41 everybody said.
09:36:42 Because this is a staff agenda item on the 14th, you'll
09:36:45 have to speak during public comment at the top of the
09:36:48 meeting, not be able to respond.
09:36:50 But, you know, I've been working with Mr. Hart, I think
09:36:53 since I took office, because I worked with an SLBE, small
09:36:58 local business enterprise.
09:37:00 And saw a lot of flaws from that side of the desk in our
09:37:05 process.
09:37:06 I tried to work with the Mayor and the administration on
09:37:10 expanding what services the department utilizes to
09:37:15 hand-hold people through the process.
09:37:17 And like you said, why even have a list of minority
09:37:21 businesses if all that's going to happen is people are
09:37:24 going to check off the box yes, I reached out to these
09:37:27 folks.
09:37:27 It takes a lot of work and a lot of effort for a small
09:37:30 business to respond to the city's request for proposals.
09:37:35 And general contractors and others, so it's very
09:37:39 disappointing that there's no follow-through.
09:37:41 So thank you for that.
09:37:42 I just want to quickly read into the item so you know
09:37:46 what's included and that the general public knows what's
09:37:48 included in the item I've put forward.
09:37:51 I asked that Gregory Hart be here to address how the
09:37:57 process concerning WMBE, SLBE, MBE programs can be made
09:38:03 better to include in his report the following issues.
09:38:06 One, that contracts are not clear regarding goal setting
09:38:09 for participation and how that language can be
09:38:11 incorporated into contracts so that it is more clear on
09:38:14 what the expectations are of a contract to utilize the
09:38:18 WMBE, MBE, SLBE programs.
09:38:22 What outreach efforts does the department do themselves
09:38:25 and what outreach efforts are outlined or expected of
09:38:28 contractors and how that is documented.
09:38:30 Three, to provide Councilmembers with the document
09:38:33 entitled Tampa City Council handout May 5th, 2016, the
09:38:38 meeting agenda item number 2 so that information can be
09:38:41 discussed and to have Gregory Hart discuss some of those
09:38:45 things he thinks can be done better to increase the
09:38:48 participation.
09:38:49 And four, that he be requested to review and discuss how
09:38:51 the administration can respond to or change policies per
09:38:55 the suggestions and points in the letter dated may 25,
09:38:59 2016 as distributed by the Tampa organization of black
09:39:02 affairs regarding diversity, equity, fairness and
09:39:06 economic inclusion.
09:39:07 I've got a very, very thick file in my office that I'd be
09:39:11 happy to share with you on some of the things that
09:39:14 Mr. Hart and I have discussed in the past.
09:39:17 And where maybe some of the sticking points are so that
09:39:21 you can continue to be involved in the process and maybe
09:39:24 move this department into just, instead of a
09:39:29 certification and list publishing department, to meet
09:39:33 some federal mandate that it actually become a living,
09:39:38 breathing economic engine for the minority community.
09:39:43 >> I want to thank Mr. Chairman for the item with Benny
09:39:48 project putting in actual spending.
09:39:50 Situate want to remind you a you spend money every day.
09:39:53 And the Mayor is a powerful Mayor form of government
09:39:55 system.
09:39:56 The Mayor can call all the direct reports in tomorrow
09:39:59 morning and mandate signing a performance management
09:40:02 agreement.
09:40:03 And with your support, you don't have to approve any
09:40:06 contracts at all.
09:40:08 It doesn't have provisions in there to make sure that
09:40:10 equity and fairness and actual spending with minority,
09:40:13 African-American and other minority-owned groups,
09:40:16 companies.
09:40:16 So if you can at least muscle your leverage and motivate
09:40:22 and incentivize the administration, we'll help you with
09:40:25 that.
09:40:25 We know black businesses in the community will help with
09:40:27 you that.
09:40:28 We don't want to exclude Hispanics, anyone else.
09:40:31 We just want to be included.
09:40:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Cohen?
09:40:37 >>HARRY COHEN: When I asked about this, the
09:40:39 administration, I was given an answer similar to the one
09:40:42 Councilman Reddick got, about the limitations related to
09:40:46 the statute.
09:40:47 But it seems to me, and I'm a lawyer and I don't
09:40:52 generally say that when I'm up here, but, because I'm not
09:40:57 acting in that role.
09:40:58 But it seems to me that the good faith language is
09:41:02 aspirational for the time of the awarding of the
09:41:05 contract, but there's nothing that prevents us from doing
09:41:09 exactly what you're suggesting and that is putting true
09:41:12 benchmarks into the contracts that can be measured.
09:41:16 And you're absolutely right, we have to approve all of
09:41:20 the contracts here at Council.
09:41:22 And it would be totally appropriate for us to look into
09:41:26 the detail that we could add to the language.
09:41:29 Because that I think is ultimately how you solve the
09:41:32 problem, is with the detail.
09:41:35 It's not the aspirational language that gets checked off
09:41:38 at the beginning, which is what Councilwoman Montelione
09:41:42 said.
09:41:43 But it's the actual meeting of the benchmarks.
09:41:46 And.
09:41:48 >> Is that a motion, Mr. Vice Chair?
09:41:51 >>HARRY COHEN: No, but it's going to come up under item
09:41:54 number 93.
09:41:55 So, if this staff is watching, they have some time to
09:42:01 actually come in and address directly what I think it is
09:42:05 that you're asking for, which seems to me like it should
09:42:09 be doable.
09:42:10 Contractual language is an agreement.
09:42:12 If both parties agree, there's no reason that there can't
09:42:16 be benchmarks added into the contract.
09:42:18 >> That looks like progress, Mr. Vice chair.
09:42:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Miranda?
09:42:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Chairman, he just admitted he's an
09:42:23 attorney.
09:42:24 What did he say?
09:42:25 [ Laughter ]
09:42:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: He's not practicing right now.
09:42:28 That was it, that was a question?
09:42:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That was a statement.
09:42:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Ransom, thank you very much.
09:42:38 Thank you to TOBA and the Saturday morning breakfast
09:42:41 group.
09:42:42 We really appreciate you coming up with all this
09:42:44 information.
09:42:44 You know we will listen.
09:42:46 Thank you, sir.
09:42:47 Okay we continue with public comment.
09:42:48 Next up, please.
09:42:50 Again, these are items on the agenda.
09:42:52 >> Good morning, City Council.
09:43:00 My name is Thomas Mantz, I am the executive director of
09:43:04 Feeding Tampa Bay.
09:43:05 I'm here to make a brief comment on the consideration of
09:43:07 item number 94, the food for fines program.
09:43:10 We understand that there are a broad variety of concerns,
09:43:15 resources and other factors that go into making any
09:43:18 decision of this type.
09:43:19 Here's all we would like to say to City Council.
09:43:22 A program of this nature could have two effects, which we
09:43:25 think are critical for our community.
09:43:27 The first of course is delivery of food to folks that are
09:43:31 hungry.
09:43:31 But the second and perhaps most important is that we have
09:43:34 a significant degree of people in our community who are
09:43:37 unaware that there is hunger to the level that it exists
09:43:41 today.
09:43:41 A program such as food for fines can be a terrific forum
09:43:46 and a small investment to have a certification with the
09:43:48 community about how many of their neighbors are hungry
09:43:50 and to allow the community to participate in feeding
09:43:53 their neighbors.
09:43:55 So as you all consider this, further on into the summer
09:43:58 and future sessions, we certainly hope you would keep
09:44:00 those two things in mind.
09:44:02 We thank you for your time.
09:44:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:44:04 Okay, next up?
09:44:06 Yes, ma'am?
09:44:08 >> Good morning.
09:44:09 My name is Connie Burton.
09:44:11 I want to first appreciate Mr. Ransom and his whole group
09:44:15 for, you know, just providing a door for the Mayor and
09:44:20 this Council to look into.
09:44:23 When I hear the good faith efforts, it has a terrible
09:44:30 stench to it that can be say we look back in history to
09:44:35 language like all deliberate speed.
09:44:37 If we drive throughout our community, and it's very, very
09:44:42 painful because I can recall a time in history even up
09:44:46 until when the labor of African people was free and we
09:44:54 did not have to ask one slave owner, they'd come about
09:44:57 with good-faith effort.
09:44:59 We worked from sun up to sundown.
09:45:01 And now it's almost impossible to find employment for
09:45:07 people in our community with meaningful skills for
09:45:11 business developers, for people who want to move our
09:45:14 community forward.
09:45:15 I would hope that this city and under this
09:45:19 administration, that we don't have to be drawn into it
09:45:24 purpose in a fit.
09:45:26 But as we move and as we see this city moving along to,
09:45:29 in my opinion, to really whiten out and remove forced
09:45:34 removal of African people in the West Tampa area with
09:45:39 shutting down of a lot of subsidized housing programs.
09:45:44 It has an opportunity to readdress this through
09:45:48 employment efforts of our community and by changing
09:45:51 language that will move this city into so-called
09:45:56 modernizing its efforts that would give people all an
09:45:59 equal opportunity for employment and a good quality of
09:46:02 life.
09:46:02 Thank you.
09:46:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:46:04 Next up?
09:46:05 >> Good morning, Council.
09:46:10 I'm bishop Michelle B Patty, P.O. Box 4624, Tampa,
09:46:17 Florida.
09:46:18 Councilman Reddick, we know you have been under the
09:46:20 weather.
09:46:21 We have come all these people to say we're glad to see
09:46:23 that God has allowed you to sit back.
09:46:26 But one thing we admire, you have never stopped your job.
09:46:30 You've been courageous, you've shown us great leadership
09:46:33 and we just want to say thank you with small token of
09:46:37 appreciation that job well done and we're glad that
09:46:40 you're back on the mend.
09:46:41 So we thank you and we applaud you for that.
09:46:43 [ Applause ]
09:46:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Bishop Patty, nothing makes councilmen
09:47:00 Reddick happier than have some food delivered to him.
09:47:04 And I know he's happy about that.
09:47:06 >> And this is from your family and friends.
09:47:13 And your community.
09:47:14 [ Applause ]
09:47:21 >>HARRY COHEN: You'd think he's firefighter of the
09:47:24 quarter.
09:47:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:47:30 Did you coordinate this?
09:47:32 [ Laughter ]
09:47:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me briefly say, I'm thankful for
09:47:38 this gesture here and yes, I have been under the weather
09:47:42 and you can tell by the weight that I have lost.
09:47:45 But I got one big hurdle tomorrow.
09:47:51 And boy, don't expect me to do this.
09:47:56 But, let us pray that tomorrow, when I do that CAT scan,
09:48:06 that everything come out good.
09:48:08 >> We claim that right now.
09:48:10 We claim the victory.
09:48:11 [ Applause ]
09:48:12 >> We love you Councilman.
09:48:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:48:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick, you know that if you bring
09:48:32 that back here, we may eat it all.
09:48:34 So you better have someone take that to your home.
09:48:37 Thank all of you for being here and supporting our
09:48:42 colleague, Mr. Reddick, obviously is greatly loved in the
09:48:45 community and greatly loved up here with us.
09:48:47 We do appreciate everything he does for us and he is a
09:48:51 wise soul that we always look to for answers on lots of
09:48:54 different issues.
09:48:55 So, thank you all for being here and attending.
09:48:58 >> And we support all his decisions.
09:49:00 All of them.
09:49:01 Avenue last one of them.
09:49:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Have you seen some of the suits he wears?
09:49:06 [ Laughter ]
09:49:07 >> Season of surprise.
09:49:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:49:12 Thank you all for being here.
09:49:14 Okay.
09:49:16 Is there anyone else in the public that would like to
09:49:19 make any public comments at this time?
09:49:21 I think we have, we have an individual that is here.
09:49:26 Is there anyone else that might want to line up
09:49:28 afterwards to do so?
09:49:30 Folks are leaving and we'll be able to get the meeting
09:49:34 going.
09:49:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Go ahead, sir.
09:50:23 >> I'm Ed Tillou, Sulphur Spring.
09:50:26 Ms. Capin isn't here again, so I'm withholding this about
09:50:35 gun control and such.
09:50:36 I'll wait until she shows up.
09:50:38 Maybe she's mad about not getting her parking, parking
09:50:44 permit or something.
09:50:45 Well, anyway, be that as it may, the handouts I sent
09:50:51 around, it's about climatic change and one of you finally
09:50:58 confessed that she's from New York, so, this is bears on
09:51:07 climatic change.
09:51:08 There was a pond in downtown New York where Chinatown is
09:51:12 now and little Italy.
09:51:15 And what stands out about that is, it's gone because they
09:51:20 filled it in.
09:51:21 And what they used to fill it in was this little mountain
09:51:25 next to it called Bahar's mount.
09:51:28 So anyway, Bahar's mount I finally realized it
09:51:33 coordinates with Green Mount Cemetery over on Long
09:51:37 Island.
09:51:37 That's terminal more rain.
09:51:41 That's how far the glaciers came.
09:51:45 In other words, as far as Chinatown and little Italy in
09:51:49 New York.
09:51:49 And that is what is likely to come about because for
09:51:52 instance, one contributing thing to that is you don't get
09:51:56 Volts for the city departments.
09:51:58 And to set the example for the community to get Volts,
09:52:04 which is a first step.
09:52:06 First step.
09:52:06 In that regard, the local car nitwits in the TBT they're
09:52:15 oftentimes having cars, people say well I can't afford
09:52:18 it, I can't afford it.
09:52:20 But there's loaners that are being sold now.
09:52:24 And general, they're about $28,000, because the
09:52:27 government gives you $7,000 in subsidy.
09:52:31 And what goes with that is that, is that they are
09:52:38 affordable.
09:52:38 They're oftentimes bringing up $33,000 cars as an example
09:52:42 of what you should buy.
09:52:43 And almost never have anything about Volts.
09:52:47 Well anyway, to add to that I ran across a British sex
09:52:52 prison in SoHo.
09:52:54 Well, there's a SoHo here in Tampa, but this is the one
09:52:57 in New York.
09:52:58 And there was this fellow Jackson that hired a bunch of
09:53:01 working girls in London and brought them here.
09:53:04 And he put them in Lessard's meadow that was more a swamp
09:53:09 and he built a stockade as much to protect the working
09:53:12 girls from wolves and bears as to keeping them from
09:53:18 running away.
09:53:20 But anyway, they service the British soldiers.
09:53:24 Gave rise to the Jackson whites and Jackson blacks
09:53:28 because he found a bunch of them --
09:53:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
09:53:30 Next, anyone else in the public that would like to speak
09:53:34 at this time?
09:53:34 Anything that is not set for public hearing?
09:53:36 I see no one.
09:53:37 Next up is our request by the public for reconsideration
09:53:40 of legislative matters.
09:53:42 Anyone would like to have a request for, to change any
09:53:45 legislative matters?
09:53:46 Again, I see no one.
09:53:48 Next up are our committee reports and our consent agenda.
09:53:51 The first committee is public safety committee,
09:53:53 Mr. Miranda is away from his chair.
09:53:56 Mr. Cohen is the vice chair.
09:53:59 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much.
09:54:00 I move items five through 14.
09:54:02 >> Second.
09:54:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
09:54:06 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:54:06 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
09:54:08 aye.
09:54:08 Any opposed?
09:54:10 Next up is our parks, recreation and culture committee,
09:54:13 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:54:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
09:54:17 I move items 15 flu 19.
09:54:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:54:20 Seconds from Mr. Cohen.
09:54:21 All in fave of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:54:23 aye.
09:54:23 Any opposed?
09:54:25 Thank you.
09:54:25 Public works committee, Mr. Frank Reddick.
09:54:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:54:28 Move items 20 through 29.
09:54:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Reddick's second
09:54:32 from Mr. Cohen.
09:54:33 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
09:54:35 aye.
09:54:35 Any opposed?
09:54:37 Our finance committee Mr. Harry Cohen is our chair.
09:54:41 >>HARRY COHEN: I move items 30 through 36.
09:54:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
09:54:44 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:54:45 All in fave of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
09:54:48 Any opposed?
09:54:49 Thank you.
09:54:50 Next up is boating, zoning and preservation committee.
09:54:54 Ms. Montelione is our chair.
09:54:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:54:56 Before I move this item, I just want to say something
09:54:58 about the items that have been moved already, although I
09:55:01 voted for them, I do notice that we are having more and
09:55:04 more single source items or single bid items on the
09:55:07 agenda.
09:55:08 We had issues in the very beginning of our term as
09:55:12 Councilmembers and I voiced a strong opposition to having
09:55:18 a lot of single source contracts or single bidder
09:55:21 contracts.
09:55:21 So, I'm just with that being said, I move items 37
09:55:27 through 60.
09:55:28 >> Second.
09:55:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Lisa Montelione, a second
09:55:30 from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:55:32 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:55:33 aye.
09:55:34 Any opposed?
09:55:36 Our next up is our transportation committee, Ms. Capin is
09:55:39 absent today.
09:55:41 Mr. Miranda is away from his desk.
09:55:42 So Mr. Cohen as the alternate, please take those.
09:55:45 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:55:46 Three times in one go-round.
09:55:48 I move items 61 through 66.
09:55:51 >> Second.
09:55:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Cohen, a seconds
09:55:54 from Mr. Reddick.
09:55:55 All in fave of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:55:56 aye.
09:55:56 Any opposed?
09:55:58 Okay.
09:55:59 Thank you.
09:55:59 Next up are three items -- excuse me, four items set for
09:56:04 public hearing.
09:56:04 Could I get a motion to set a public hearing for number
09:56:07 67?
09:56:08 >> So moved.
09:56:09 >> Second.
09:56:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Maniscalco, second from
09:56:12 Mr. Cohen.
09:56:13 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:56:14 aye.
09:56:14 Any opposed?
09:56:16 Ms. Montelione, you want to take 68?
09:56:19 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Certainly, sir.
09:56:20 Let me get the final agenda because I'm working off the
09:56:23 draft here.
09:56:23 You just have to move it.
09:56:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move the resolution.
09:56:27 >> Second.
09:56:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione, second from
09:56:30 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:56:31 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:56:32 aye.
09:56:33 Any opposed?
09:56:34 Item 69.
09:56:35 >> Move item 69.
09:56:36 >> Second.
09:56:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
09:56:40 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:56:40 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
09:56:42 aye.
09:56:42 Any opposed?
09:56:44 >> Move item 0.
09:56:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Cohen, second from
09:56:48 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:56:49 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
09:56:50 aye.
09:56:50 And number S.
09:56:52 >> Move item 71.
09:56:54 >> Sec.
09:56:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Again motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
09:56:57 Mr. Maniscalco.
09:56:57 All in favor of that motion, signify by saying aye.
09:56:59 Any opposed?
09:57:00 Okay.
09:57:01 We are now to our 9:30 public hearings.
09:57:07 Items 21 through 75 are nonquasi-judicial proceedings --
09:57:14 excuse me.
09:57:14 I apologize.
09:57:16 Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from Mr. Miranda.
09:57:18 All in favor of that motion to open the hearings, please
09:57:21 indicate by saying aye.
09:57:21 Any opposed?
09:57:23 Thank you.
09:57:23 Staff?
09:57:29 >> Mr. Chairman, these being second readings if you wish
09:57:32 to have a staff report, otherwise you can just ask if
09:57:35 anybody wishes to speak.
09:57:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is there anyone in the public wish to
09:57:38 speak on item 72?
09:57:39 Please come forward.
09:57:41 >> Just want to make sure it's the item on the wrecker.
09:57:55 I'm Ellen Snelling, chair of Tampa alcohol coalition and
09:57:57 board chair of Hillsborough County, just here to support
09:58:01 this ordinance and very happy that the City Council has
09:58:04 worked on this.
09:58:05 I think it's a step in the right direction to help
09:58:08 prevent drunk driving.
09:58:10 Hillsborough County is number one unfortunately in DUI
09:58:12 arrests in the state as well as DUI-related injuries and
09:58:17 crashes and we're number two in fatalities.
09:58:19 So, anything we can do to move us in the right direction
09:58:22 to prevent these DUI crashes and save lives is wonderful.
09:58:27 This particular ordinance is publicizing really an
09:58:30 ordinance that you already had and it's making it more
09:58:33 clear to the bar owners and the staff as well as citizens
09:58:37 that if they had too much to drink, they can leave their
09:58:40 car safely without worrying about a predatory tow truck
09:58:43 coming and taking their car in the middle of the night.
09:58:46 And then they can come back the next day and get it.
09:58:49 So again I just think it's wonderful and I'm just here to
09:58:52 support the ordinance.
09:58:52 Thank you.
09:58:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:58:54 Anyone else in the public like to speak on item number 72
09:58:57 in.
09:58:57 >> Move to close.
09:58:58 >> Seconds.
09:58:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion to close from Mr. Miranda, second
09:59:01 from Mr. Cohen.
09:59:02 All in favor please indicate by saying aye.
09:59:04 Mr. Cohen, will you please take number 72.
09:59:08 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much.
09:59:08 This is a really good ordinance and I'm glad that we're
09:59:10 able to finally pass it.
09:59:12 I think that it is something that will help us on that
09:59:16 DUI.
09:59:18 I move a substitute ordinance being presented for second
09:59:20 reading and adoption, an ordinance of the City of Tampa,
09:59:23 Florida, making revisions to City of Tampa code of
09:59:25 ordinances, chapter 14 offenses, amending section 14-48,
09:59:30 wrecker regulation, repealing all ordinances or parts of
09:59:33 ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for
09:59:36 severability, providing an effective date.
09:59:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
09:59:41 Mr. Miranda.
09:59:41 Please record your vote.
09:59:52 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin being absent and
09:59:56 Maniscalco being absent.
09:59:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:59:59 Item number 73.
10:00:00 Anyone from the administration or anyone else speaking
10:00:02 about this?
10:00:05 >> Jared Simpson with the city attorney's office.
10:00:08 I'm available if you have any questions.
10:00:09 I'm not sure exactly where staff is.
10:00:11 They're probably on their way.
10:00:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's perfectly fine.
10:00:15 Any questions from Council of administration?
10:00:18 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:00:21 item number 73?
10:00:22 >> Move to close.
10:00:23 >> Seconds.
10:00:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:00:26 Ms. Montelione.
10:00:27 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:00:29 aye.
10:00:30 Any opposed?
10:00:31 Ms. Montelione, could you please take number 73?
10:00:36 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:00:37 I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:00:40 and adoption, ordinance of the City of Tampa Florida
10:00:43 relating to rental certificate program making revisions
10:00:45 to City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter 19, property
10:00:48 maintenance and structural standards, and chapter 23.5,
10:00:51 supplemental enforcement procedures, amending section
10:00:55 19-5:00 authority of the director, deleting division 2,
10:00:59 certificates, inspections, creating division 6 rental
10:01:02 certificate program, sections 19-105 through 19-125,
10:01:07 amending section 23.5-5 schedule of violations and
10:01:12 penalties you can repealing all ordinances or parts of
10:01:15 ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for
10:01:17 severability, providing an effective date.
10:01:20 >> Second.
10:01:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione, seconds from
10:01:23 Mr. Cohen.
10:01:24 Please record your votes.
10:01:31 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin and Maniscalco
10:01:34 being absent.
10:01:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:01:36 Item number 74.
10:01:37 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:01:41 item number 74?
10:01:42 >> Move to close.
10:01:43 >> Second.
10:01:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda.
10:01:45 Seconds from Ms. Montelione.
10:01:46 All in favor of that motion, signify by saying aye.
10:01:48 Any opposed?
10:01:49 Mr. Miranda, will you please take 74?
10:01:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move an ordinance PA 16-01 A presented
10:01:56 for second reading adoption, ordinance amending the Tampa
10:01:59 comprehensive plan future land use map for the properties
10:02:02 located at 3935 West Cypress Street from community
10:02:06 commercial 35, CC-35 to regional mixed use 100, RMU-100.
10:02:13 Providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict,
10:02:17 providing for severability, providing an effective date.
10:02:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
10:02:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:02:24 Ms. Montelione.
10:02:25 Please record your votes.
10:02:30 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Maniscalco and Capin
10:02:34 being absent.
10:02:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:02:36 Terrific.
10:02:36 Item number 75, anyone in the public wish to speak on
10:02:40 item number 75?
10:02:42 >> Move to close.
10:02:42 >> Second.
10:02:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:02:44 Ms. Montelione.
10:02:46 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:02:50 aye.
10:02:51 Mr. Reddick, will you please take that item.
10:02:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move item being presented nor second
10:02:56 reading and adoption, an ordinance amending the Tampa
10:03:00 comprehensive plan future land use map for the property
10:03:03 generally located at 3905 and 3911 West Cypress Street,
10:03:08 would change the future land use designation from
10:03:11 community commercial-35, CC-35 to regional mixed use 100,
10:03:17 RMU-100, providing for repeal of all ordinances in
10:03:21 conflict, providing for severability, providing an
10:03:23 effective date.
10:03:24 >> Second.
10:03:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Reddick.
10:03:26 Second from Mr. Miranda.
10:03:27 Please record your vote.
10:03:31 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Maniscalco and Capin
10:03:37 being absent at vote.
10:03:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Could get a motion to open items 76
10:03:42 through 83.
10:03:43 Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from Mr. Miranda.
10:03:45 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:03:46 aye.
10:03:47 Any opposed?
10:03:49 All those that would like to speak on items 76 through
10:03:52 83, please rise and be sworn in.
10:03:56 [Oath administered by Clerk]
10:03:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:04:03 Staff?
10:04:04 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Gloria Moreda, site plan has been
10:04:12 revised and given to city clerk office.
10:04:15 We have no further comment.
10:04:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Petitioner?
10:04:17 >> I'm Michael Horner, 14502 North Dale Mabry Highway
10:04:23 representing the applicant.
10:04:24 I'm here for any questions.
10:04:25 Thank you.
10:04:25 >> MICHAEL SUAREZ: Is there anyone in the public that
10:04:27 would like to speak on item 76, please come forward at
10:04:30 this time.
10:04:30 Okay.
10:04:32 I see no one.
10:04:33 Do I get a motion to close.
10:04:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion to close from Mr. Miranda, second
10:04:39 from Ms. Montelione.
10:04:40 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:04:41 aye.
10:04:42 Any opposed?
10:04:43 Mr. Cohen, could you please take item number 76, please.
10:04:48 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
10:04:49 I move substitute ordinance being presented for second
10:04:51 reading and adoption.
10:04:52 An ordinance approving the special use permit S-2 for
10:04:56 alcoholic beverage sales large venue consumption on
10:04:59 premises only, and making lawful the sale of beverages
10:05:02 regardless of alcoholic content, beer, wine and liquor on
10:05:05 that certain, lot, plot or tract of land located at 5315
10:05:09 Avion Park Drive, Tampa, Florida, as more particularly
10:05:13 described in section 2, that all ordinances or parts of
10:05:15 ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an
10:05:17 effective date.
10:05:18 >> Second.
10:05:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen, a second from
10:05:21 Ms. Montelione.
10:05:22 Please record your vote.
10:05:26 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Maniscalco and Capin
10:05:32 being absent.
10:05:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:05:35 Item number 77.
10:05:36 Staff?
10:05:42 >> Site plan was revised and given to the city clerk's
10:05:44 office.
10:05:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Petitioner, item number 77?
10:05:47 Okay, any questions from Council, staff or anyone else?
10:05:50 >> Move to close.
10:05:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me ask the public first.
10:05:53 Is there anyone in the public would like to speak on item
10:05:56 77?
10:05:57 I see no one.
10:05:58 I have a motion to close from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:06:02 Ms. Montelione.
10:06:03 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:06:04 aye.
10:06:04 Any opposed?
10:06:06 Ms. Montelione, will you please take item 77.
10:06:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
10:06:11 I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:06:13 and adoption, an ordinance approving special use permit
10:06:15 S-2 for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue consumption
10:06:19 on premises only and making lawful the sale of beer and
10:06:21 wine at or from that certain lot, plot or tract of land
10:06:24 located at 1409 east 7th avenue, Tampa, Florida, as more
10:06:29 particularly described in section 2, that all ordinances
10:06:31 or parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed,
10:06:34 providing an effective date.
10:06:35 >> Second.
10:06:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione, a second from
10:06:37 Mr. Miranda.
10:06:39 Please record your vote.
10:06:43 >>THE CLERK: Motion carries.
10:06:47 Maniscalco and Capin being absent.
10:06:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:06:50 Item number 78.
10:06:52 Staff?
10:06:55 >> Good morning, Abbye Feeley, Land Development
10:06:56 Coordination.
10:06:57 The remaining items for second reading including item 79,
10:07:02 80, S and 83 require certified site plans.
10:07:05 Those plans have been certified and provided to the
10:07:08 clerk.
10:07:08 I have additional copies if you'd like to review.
10:07:11 Thank you.
10:07:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:07:12 Petitioner, item number 78?
10:07:14 Any questions from Council?
10:07:17 Is there anyone in the public like to speak on item
10:07:19 number 78?
10:07:21 >> Move to close.
10:07:22 >> Second.
10:07:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:07:24 Mr. Reddick.
10:07:25 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:07:27 aye.
10:07:27 Any opposed?
10:07:28 Mr. Reddick, if you could take number -- I'm sorry,
10:07:32 Mr. Miranda, if you could take number 78 please.
10:07:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move file No. REZ 16-34, ordinance
10:07:38 presented for second reading and adoption, ordinance
10:07:40 rezoning property in general vicinity of 3104 West Julia
10:07:44 Circle South in the City of Tampa, Florida, and more
10:07:47 particularly described as section one from zoning
10:07:49 district classifications RS-60 single-family to RM-16
10:07:53 residential multi-family, providing an effective date.
10:07:55 >> Second.
10:07:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:07:57 Mr. Reddick.
10:07:57 Please record your vote.
10:07:59 >>THE CLERK: Motion carries with Maniscalco and Capin
10:08:07 being absent.
10:08:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:08:09 Item number 79, is petitioner here for item number 79?
10:08:14 >> Good morning, Elisa Martinez, I'm available for any
10:08:18 questions.
10:08:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from Council?
10:08:20 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:08:22 item number 79?
10:08:25 >> Move to close.
10:08:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, a second from
10:08:28 Mr. Reddick.
10:08:29 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:08:30 aye.
10:08:31 Any opposed?
10:08:32 Mr. Reddick, will you take number 9 please.
10:08:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes, sir.
10:08:36 Move an ordinance being presented second reading and
10:08:38 adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general
10:08:41 vicinity of 2917 West Kathleen Street from the City of
10:08:43 Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in section
10:08:46 one, rezoning district classification, RS-50, residential
10:08:49 single-family to PD planned development residential
10:08:52 single family detached, providing an effective date.
10:08:54 >> Second.
10:08:55 >> Motion from Mr. Reddick, second from Mr. Miranda,
10:08:57 please record your vote.
10:09:03 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Mrs. Capin being absent.
10:09:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item number 80.
10:09:11 Petitioner, here for item number 80.
10:09:14 >> Truth Becker 400 North Ashley.
10:09:16 We made the minor revisions requested.
10:09:18 Thank you for your support before and your support now.
10:09:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone in the public like to speak on item
10:09:23 number 8?
10:09:24 Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from Mr. Maniscalco.
10:09:27 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:09:28 aye.
10:09:29 Any opposed?
10:09:31 Okay.
10:09:32 Number 80, Mr. Cohen, if you could take that.
10:09:35 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
10:09:36 I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:09:38 and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the
10:09:42 general vicinity of 1901 holly lane in the City of Tampa,
10:09:46 Florida, more particularly described in section one from
10:09:48 zoning district classifications RS-100 residential
10:09:51 single-family to PD, planned development, residential,
10:09:54 single-family detached, providing an effective date.
10:09:56 >> Second.
10:09:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
10:09:58 Mr. Maniscalco.
10:09:59 Please record your vote.
10:10:03 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin being absent.
10:10:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:10:10 Item number 81.
10:10:12 Is there petitioner here for S?
10:10:13 Sir?
10:10:15 >> Good morning, I'm mark Jordan, owner of 3612 West
10:10:18 Azeele if anybody has any questions.
10:10:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is there anyone in the public that would
10:10:22 like to speak on item 81?
10:10:25 I have a motion from Mr. Miranda, second from Mr. Cohen.
10:10:28 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:10:29 aye.
10:10:29 Okay.
10:10:31 Mr. Maniscalco, if all take number S please.
10:10:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I have an ordinance being presented
10:10:36 for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning
10:10:39 property in the general vicinity of 3612 West Azeele
10:10:41 Street in the City of Tampa, Florida and more
10:10:44 particularly described in section 1 from zoning district
10:10:47 classification PD planned development office business
10:10:50 professional to PD planned development office business
10:10:52 professional, providing an effective date.
10:10:55 >> Second.
10:10:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Maniscalco, second from
10:10:57 Mr. Reddick.
10:10:58 Please record your vote.
10:11:08 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin being absent.
10:11:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:11:12 Item number 82.
10:11:13 Petitioner?
10:11:16 >> Good morning.
10:11:17 Clay Bricklemyer.
10:11:18 I'm available for questions.
10:11:19 >> Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak
10:11:23 on item 82?
10:11:25 >> Move to close.
10:11:26 >> Second.
10:11:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion to close from Mr. Miranda, second
10:11:28 from Mr. Pleus.
10:11:29 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:11:31 aye.
10:11:31 Any opposed?
10:11:33 Ms. Montelione, if you could take item number 82.
10:11:36 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:11:37 I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:11:39 and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the
10:11:41 general vicinity of 3004 west Julia street in the City of
10:11:45 Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section
10:11:48 one, from zoning district classifications RS-60
10:11:50 residential single-family and RM-24, residential
10:11:53 multi-family to RM-24 residential multi-family, providing
10:11:56 an effective date.
10:11:57 >> Second.
10:11:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione.
10:11:59 A second from Mr. Miranda.
10:12:00 Please record your votes.
10:12:09 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin being absent.
10:12:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:12:12 Item number 83.
10:12:14 Petitioner?
10:12:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's very dramatic.
10:12:22 Two came up at the same time.
10:12:24 From up here, looked very dramatic.
10:12:26 Go ahead, sir.
10:12:26 >> Like a game show.
10:12:29 John Grandoff, Suite 3700 Bank of America Plaza here on
10:12:35 behalf of the petitioner.
10:12:37 I'm here also on behalf of my partner Gina Grimes who
10:12:41 could not be here this morning.
10:12:43 We respectfully request approval on second reading.
10:12:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:12:46 Is there anyone -- go ahead, sir.
10:12:49 >> Good morning, I'm staff, Ron Vila with City of Tampa
10:12:53 historic preservation department, here to answer any
10:12:55 questions.
10:12:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:12:56 Is there anyone in the public would like to speak on item
10:12:59 83?
10:13:00 >> Move to close.
10:13:01 >> Second.
10:13:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:13:04 Mr. Maniscalco.
10:13:04 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:13:06 aye.
10:13:06 Any opposed?
10:13:08 Mr. Miranda, if you could take number 83.
10:13:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move file SU-II-15-08, ordinance
10:13:15 provided for second reading and adoption, an ordinance
10:13:17 approving a special use permit S-2 approving a catering
10:13:21 shop at CY-12 Ybor City residential neighborhood in the
10:13:25 general vicinity of 2406 east 8th avenue in the City of
10:13:28 Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section
10:13:31 one hereof, providing an effective date.
10:13:33 >> Second.
10:13:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:13:35 Mr. Reddick.
10:13:36 All in favor of that motion, please record your vote.
10:13:40 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Capin being absent.
10:13:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:13:48 We cannot open our 10:30 hearings yet.
10:13:50 Even though it is just a continuance.
10:13:52 There are some -- there is one item that needs to be
10:13:55 removed from the agenda.
10:13:56 I believe that is item number 98.
10:13:59 If I can get a motion to do so.
10:14:01 I have a motion from Mr. Reddick, second from
10:14:04 Ms. Montelione.
10:14:05 And the movement will be to July 14th, 2016.
10:14:09 Under staff reports.
10:14:13 Okay, I have a motion from Mr. Reddick, second from
10:14:17 Ms. Montelione.
10:14:18 All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying
10:14:19 aye.
10:14:19 Any opposed?
10:14:20 Thank you.
10:14:21 Let's move on to item 85 staff?
10:14:27 Anyone here to talk about this particular resolution,
10:14:30 modification, sub grant agreement?
10:14:33 This is a contract that we have.
10:14:34 Anyone here?
10:14:36 Yes, ma'am?
10:14:38 >> Good morning, I'm Deirdre Joseph and I'm here to
10:14:41 answer any questions.
10:14:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions on item number 85 of our
10:14:45 staff?
10:14:45 We'll wait for Ms. Montelione.
10:14:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I did have just a question about what
10:15:01 this -- I'm very interested in emergency management
10:15:05 services and making sure that we have the proper tools
10:15:10 should the worst happen and we get hit by a storm or some
10:15:14 other natural disaster.
10:15:17 But could you just -- there's not a lot of language when
10:15:21 I read the agenda item.
10:15:23 It just said that the parties desire to modify the
10:15:28 existing agreement.
10:15:29 This is a 2, almost $3 million item so I was curious as
10:15:35 to what that meant.
10:15:36 >> This is our urban area security grant, the grant ends
10:15:41 June 30th.
10:15:42 We have one big project that is not quite complete.
10:15:46 So we have asked for an extension on our grant until
10:15:49 August the 15th.
10:15:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Are you at liberty to say what that
10:15:54 grant does or what -- what we get out of the grant and
10:15:58 what this does for us?
10:16:02 When it comes to these things, sometimes you're not at
10:16:05 liberty to say.
10:16:06 >> I am at liberty to say.
10:16:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Oh, good.
10:16:10 >> This grant is for homeland security to prevent acts of
10:16:13 terrorism.
10:16:13 And so the projects are selected from a committee.
10:16:17 The project in question that is not yet complete is a
10:16:21 purchase for Tampa fire.
10:16:23 We're buying a bulk foam container and the vendor is not
10:16:28 yet complete.
10:16:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: You're buying a bulk?
10:16:31 >> Bulk foam container.
10:16:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
10:16:35 I'm not sure I know what that is.
10:16:37 >> To put out fires.
10:16:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay, sorry.
10:16:41 Well, that's a very good thing.
10:16:44 $3 million is a lot of money, so I'm sure it's a lot of
10:16:47 foam.
10:16:48 Thank you very much for explaining that.
10:16:50 I always with items, I like a little more description in
10:16:57 the agenda item so we know what we're approving.
10:16:59 I'll move the item.
10:17:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione.
10:17:03 Second from Mr. Maniscalco.
10:17:05 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:17:06 aye.
10:17:06 Any opposed?
10:17:08 Thank you.
10:17:09 Thank you for being here.
10:17:11 Item number 86, anyone like to take that?
10:17:17 >> I move item 86.
10:17:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:17:20 Mr. Maniscalco.
10:17:21 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:17:22 aye.
10:17:23 Any opposed?
10:17:24 Thank you.
10:17:25 Okay.
10:17:26 Number 87.
10:17:27 Anyone.
10:17:31 >> Move 87.
10:17:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is there anyone that wants some questions
10:17:34 answered on 87?
10:17:36 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm good with 87.
10:17:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda.
10:17:39 Seconds from Mr. Cohen.
10:17:40 All in favor of that motion, signify by saying aye.
10:17:42 Any opposed?
10:17:44 Thank you.
10:17:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move item 88, sir.
10:17:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione, second --
10:17:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have one thing.
10:17:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me go ahead and get the motion set,
10:17:52 then do the discussion.
10:17:53 Seconds from Mr. Cohen.
10:17:55 Discussion?
10:17:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
10:17:57 I know --
10:18:02 >> Brad Baird, public works and utility services
10:18:05 administrator.
10:18:06 Items 88 and 89 are associated with replacing our
10:18:13 utility, or our existing multi-services system, which is
10:18:18 our billing system for solid wastewater and wastewater
10:18:23 and it's a 25-year-old system that we are getting ready
10:18:29 to kick off an implementation program to replace it.
10:18:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions?
10:18:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to make a statement.
10:18:39 This is about, I don't know, 5.8 million and when you add
10:18:44 it on to the other contract, it's about 11.8 million
10:18:49 total.
10:18:49 I hope in case something else in the future this Council
10:18:53 may or may not add on, something that this computer
10:18:57 system can do and save $5 million and not pay somebody
10:19:00 else the $5 million to collect something we may or may
10:19:03 not pass in the future.
10:19:05 That's all I'm asking.
10:19:06 I had to speak in general terms.
10:19:09 I think the gentleman in front of me is very capable of
10:19:11 saying yes or not.
10:19:12 >> Not only save money, will improve customer receivables
10:19:15 greatly in those three areas.
10:19:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:19:18 Any other questions or comments?
10:19:20 We already have a motion on the floor.
10:19:22 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:19:23 aye.
10:19:23 Any opposed?
10:19:24 Thank you.
10:19:26 89?
10:19:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So moved.
10:19:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda.
10:19:31 Second from Mr. Cohen.
10:19:33 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
10:19:33 aye.
10:19:34 Any opposed?
10:19:35 Before we go on to 90, I have been requested to see if we
10:19:40 can move up item 95.
10:19:45 We have our major from Tampa Police Department to come
10:19:47 and provide any report about Walmarts.
10:19:48 It is Mr. Reddick's motion.
10:19:52 If you could wait a moment, Major, and see if we can't
10:19:55 get Mr. Reddick back here to talk about that item.
10:19:57 Number 90.
10:19:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone like to move that one?
10:20:07 Go ahead, sir.
10:20:09 >> Good morning, Greg Bayor, parks and recreation
10:20:15 director.
10:20:17 I'm here to answer any questions.
10:20:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions?
10:20:22 >> Grounds work for the cemetery, I move the item.
10:20:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Have a motion from Mr. Cohen, second from
10:20:26 Mr. Miranda.
10:20:30 All in favor, please indicate by saying aye.
10:20:30 Any opposed?
10:20:31 Thank you.
10:20:32 [Inaudible]
10:20:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Everybody dying to get into that last one.
10:20:40 Number 91?
10:20:42 Any questions?
10:20:42 Of staff or anyone else?
10:20:44 Can I get a motion?
10:20:45 >> Move the item.
10:20:46 >> Second.
10:20:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Ms. Montelione, a
10:20:49 second from Mr. Miranda.
10:20:50 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:20:51 aye.
10:20:52 Any opposed?
10:20:53 Thank you.
10:20:54 Now, we will move on to item number 95, Mr. Reddick is
10:20:58 back here.
10:20:58 Major, if you could come forward.
10:21:00 >> Good morning, Council.
10:21:05 My name is Major Lee Bercaw.
10:21:06 I'm here on behalf of Chief Eric Ward, who is out of
10:21:10 town, reporting back to your questions in reference to
10:21:13 95.
10:21:13 So the first request was on the number of calls received
10:21:29 from the Walmarts in the City of Tampa, particularly the
10:21:31 Walmart on East Hillsborough Avenue.
10:21:33 Can you guys see that?
10:21:37 >>HARRY COHEN: We don't have it up there.
10:21:44 >> It's on your screen.
10:21:45 >> All right.
10:21:46 So if you look at this graph, this highlights that the
10:21:49 city has 7 Walmarts and it's a 2015-2014 year comparison
10:21:53 on the number of calls.
10:21:55 You can see that the New Tampa locations are most active.
10:21:58 And that the Walmart on east Hillsborough and particular
10:22:02 that you requested opened on May 20th, 2015.
10:22:05 And they had 452 calls for service.
10:22:11 The next slide, the graph here, this one highlights the
10:22:24 same 7 Walmarts with the first four month comparison of
10:22:27 2015 versus 2016.
10:22:29 And here you'll see a marked decrease in the number of
10:22:32 calls.
10:22:33 With the New Tampa Walmart still being the most active.
10:22:36 However, it had approximately 40% decrease.
10:22:39 We can't compare the new Walmart, again because of the
10:22:43 opening date.
10:22:44 So the nature of these calls, the majority of these calls
10:22:48 are self-initiated calls and proactive patrol calls, not
10:22:53 calls directly called by Walmart.
10:22:55 For example, crime prevention activity, building checks,
10:23:00 roll calls and so forth.
10:23:01 So the majority of those calls are specific to our own
10:23:06 initiation.
10:23:07 >>HARRY COHEN: I think Councilwoman Montelione has a
10:23:11 question.
10:23:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm extremely curious about why Bruce
10:23:15 B. Downs location is so much higher than the others.
10:23:20 Do you have specifics?
10:23:22 >> It's our initiative, we're doing roll calls there.
10:23:25 We have the school that lets out, Wharton high.
10:23:27 So it's not that particular Walmart in calling us.
10:23:30 It's us putting ourselves out there and preventive
10:23:32 measures.
10:23:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Oh, that's really misleading.
10:23:35 Looking at the bar chart because it looks like that.
10:23:38 >> It's total calls.
10:23:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That there's a preponderance of
10:23:44 burglaries or incidents at the Bruce B. Downs Walmart.
10:23:47 It's exactly maybe the opposite where you're doing roll
10:23:50 calls there.
10:23:51 Boy, I feel a lot better now.
10:23:53 Thank you.
10:23:54 >> So the next one is on arrests.
10:23:57 In this particular chart it shows the number of arrests
10:24:05 compared to 2014 versus 2015.
10:24:08 Also the same first four month comparison.
10:24:13 As you can see year to date, outside the Walmart on
10:24:16 Hillsborough, overall arrests are down.
10:24:19 The new Walmart in Hillsborough does have the most
10:24:21 arrests.
10:24:22 It has 121 year to date, January through April.
10:24:25 How far, that number has significantly declined due to a
10:24:30 new program that Walmart has started there.
10:24:33 So, those were the questions that were in the motion,
10:24:38 were the number of calls and number of raises with the
10:24:41 focus on the east Hillsborough.
10:24:42 Any questions you may have.
10:24:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: I think you had the opportunity to meet
10:24:52 with Walmart representatives recently?
10:24:56 >> Yes.
10:24:56 Actually the article came out and we met on
10:25:00 June 8th after the article.
10:25:01 But that meeting in my opinion was not necessary.
10:25:03 We have been meeting with Walmart and working with them
10:25:06 proactively well in advance of this article.
10:25:08 I believe that we have been on the cutting edge with
10:25:12 communicating back in 2014 when the -- not the New Tampa
10:25:16 but the Dale Mabry Walmart was spiking.
10:25:19 So my opinion we have been ahead of the curve with
10:25:21 Walmart.
10:25:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, good.
10:25:24 And I've had the opportunity about two weeks ago or three
10:25:28 weeks ago to meet with four representatives executives
10:25:31 members of the Walmart management team to discuss this.
10:25:36 And even though there seem to be a decrease, you still
10:25:42 had over the year up to, a large number of individuals
10:25:47 who caused made to law enforcement.
10:25:52 And from my understanding talking with Walmart and from
10:25:57 what I have read and done research on, is that the
10:26:03 problems for TPD, for example, receiving all these calls,
10:26:07 these are minor offenses that would take a resource from
10:26:13 other areas of the community to come and answer call at
10:26:16 Walmart.
10:26:16 Now, I do understand that they're trying to start a
10:26:19 diversion program, where, that they're utilizing their
10:26:26 own personnel staff, what they explained to me, to those
10:26:30 who arrested for items less than $25, that they would try
10:26:36 to put them in some type of diversion program or
10:26:40 prevention program, to educate them or to discuss with
10:26:47 them and to avoid them having any type of criminal
10:26:50 record.
10:26:50 That's all in good, but one of the questions that Walmart
10:26:55 refused to answer when I raised the question is why they
10:27:00 don't hire additional one off duty law enforcement
10:27:05 officer or too, why they refuse to hire security
10:27:10 personnel with security guards at their stores.
10:27:15 And it seemed to me that with the prevention program
10:27:20 they're doing and they're doing it internally, instead of
10:27:24 getting law enforcement involved, they're trying to save
10:27:29 money.
10:27:29 And that's what it come down to to me.
10:27:32 Every time I had the discussion with them about getting
10:27:35 security personnel, whether off duty police officer or
10:27:39 hiring some kind of security firm to be there, they
10:27:44 avoided that question and they continued to talk about
10:27:47 this diversion program.
10:27:49 Let me just ask you a couple questions.
10:27:53 Even though the numbers seem to be going down, and the
10:27:56 store on east Hillsborough, for example, I think it only
10:28:00 been open about a year.
10:28:02 >> Since may 20th, 2015.
10:28:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:28:06 And you start out with a high number of calls to that
10:28:10 store.
10:28:10 And you got a high number of arrests to that store.
10:28:14 And I have seen -- and I frequent that store a lot and I
10:28:18 see one on-duty TPD officer that would be stationed out
10:28:24 there to the store.
10:28:25 But that store be packed all the time.
10:28:29 And I remember when they first opened, when they just had
10:28:32 the grand opening ceremony, where you almost had anywhere
10:28:35 from 13 to 18 thefts, people arrested for theft on the
10:28:39 first day that it was open.
10:28:43 There seemed to me to still be a problem with Walmart and
10:28:48 Walmart position that they're making these calls and even
10:28:54 though I agree that your numbers have gone down, but do
10:28:59 you feel comfortable that the programs that Walmart has
10:29:02 in place now will reduce the number of calls to TPD or
10:29:09 other law enforcement agencies on minor offenses,
10:29:14 especially under $25, because I remember one incident
10:29:18 where somebody walking around the store drinking one
10:29:21 liter soda.
10:29:22 And they made a call.
10:29:24 To TPD.
10:29:26 And do you feel the current program they have in place
10:29:30 now is something that TPD can work with and avoid taking
10:29:41 TPD officers away from their duty and responsibility
10:29:45 serving the community, to go answer minor offenses at
10:29:49 Walmart?
10:29:49 >> I do.
10:29:50 And here's why.
10:29:51 The article that was written was global and it wasn't
10:29:54 focused on the City of Tampa.
10:29:56 And that particular Walmart and the Walmart on Dale Mabry
10:30:00 do hire extra duty officers.
10:30:02 The Walmart on east Hillsborough began hiring us in
10:30:06 October of 2015.
10:30:08 Prior to that it was the sheriff's office.
10:30:10 They pay for an officer 7 days a week from 6:00 a.m. to
10:30:14 11 at midnight.
10:30:16 And on top of that, this cap program you're refugee to,
10:30:20 we have already seen a marked improvement.
10:30:23 It was a beta test at the Dale Mabry location.
10:30:25 We convinced them that it would be a good idea to look at
10:30:29 that other Walmart.
10:30:30 Walmart was actually already on it and expanding that cap
10:30:34 program, which is the diversion civil diversion program.
10:30:38 Just to give you an idea of how the arrests have changed
10:30:41 at that particular Walmart and Hillsborough since the cap
10:30:45 program started, in April of 2016, we had 17 arrests.
10:30:51 In May 7, in June, year to date, we have only had two.
10:30:56 So we are already seeing a marked, not only the number of
10:31:00 calls but the number of arrests.
10:31:02 So, I'm confident that this article didn't change
10:31:07 anything that we have done.
10:31:08 If this article wouldn't have happened, everything I'm
10:31:11 reporting to you would still be the same because we have
10:31:13 a good rapport with Walmart.
10:31:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: From your perception, do you feel that
10:31:17 the article was misleading?
10:31:18 >> No.
10:31:19 The article was focused on the entire global area.
10:31:21 It wasn't the City of Tampa.
10:31:23 It referenced other counties as well, entire region.
10:31:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:31:27 And last question I have is that, you take the Walmart on
10:31:33 east Hillsborough, for example, with the capacity that
10:31:39 they have and the number of customers they receive almost
10:31:43 on a daily basis, do you feel that they have adequate
10:31:48 security personnel in place to manage the capacity that
10:31:51 they receive per day?
10:31:54 >> You know, I didn't do an analysis on that.
10:31:57 But based on just my common knowledge, yes, and in
10:32:01 particular, that Walmart on Hillsborough, yes, because
10:32:05 they've worked with us on all their shoplifting
10:32:08 prevention and things and they've communicated with us.
10:32:10 So based on, without doing an investigation, just on
10:32:13 common knowledge, I do feel comfortable that they are
10:32:17 putting forth their due diligence there.
10:32:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:32:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions or comments to the
10:32:23 major?
10:32:23 Major, thanks so much.
10:32:25 Appreciate it for being here.
10:32:27 Okay, it is 10:30.
10:32:30 Before we go on to our next item, if I could get a motion
10:32:33 to open the hearing, sock 30 hearing for item 84.
10:32:37 Motion from Mr. Miranda, all in favor of that motion,
10:32:41 please indicate by saying aye.
10:32:42 Okay.
10:32:42 I need a motion to continue this hearing to August 4 at
10:32:48 10:30 a.m.
10:32:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move the motion to August 4th,
10:32:55 10:30 a.m.
10:32:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
10:32:58 Mr. Maniscalco.
10:32:58 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:33:00 aye.
10:33:00 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:33:04 the continuance of number 84 only?
10:33:06 I see no one.
10:33:07 Thank you very much.
10:33:09 All right.
10:33:10 Item number 92, Ms. Duncan if you could come forward.
10:33:14 >> Good morning, Councilmembers.
10:33:27 Got a couple handouts here I thought might be helpful.
10:33:32 If you don't mind me passing those out.
10:33:46 >>HARRY COHEN: Not too get too personal, Ms. Duncan, but
10:33:50 how late were you at the MPO hearing last night?
10:33:53 >> Let me just say I'll let my lateness of last night be
10:33:56 a factor of any failings in this morning's presentation.
10:34:01 Apologize in advance.
10:34:02 Was a late night for many of us.
10:34:04 Even those that weren't in attendance may have been tuned
10:34:07 in on their TVs at home and was quite an interesting
10:34:11 evening.
10:34:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: But it was rivetting TV.
10:34:17 >> Some of us, yes.
10:34:18 That's what we call drama in the transportation world.
10:34:21 Just wanted to come before you today to do my best to
10:34:28 answer some questions and speak about an interest that
10:34:32 was presented when I was here, I believe it was back in
10:34:36 March.
10:34:36 At that time, Go Hillsborough of course was over our
10:34:42 heads, a lot of anticipation.
10:34:44 We weren't sure which direction that was going.
10:34:46 Of course we that information now.
10:34:49 And there was also some interests from the information
10:34:53 that presented last time, we have been before you a
10:34:59 couple times as some follow-ups to an audit that was done
10:35:04 last year on our pavement management program.
10:35:07 And last time I was here, I was sharing a little bit
10:35:10 about our good news, that we have completely updated our
10:35:15 entire pavement condition index, what we call PCI.
10:35:18 I'll share a little bit about that with you in a second.
10:35:21 I will try to be brief for our three Councilmembers that
10:35:24 were there last night.
10:35:26 But I share with you last time what I feel is good news
10:35:31 about our citywide pavement condition index.
10:35:36 And just to refresh you on that I'll show one of your
10:35:43 handouts on the Elmo here.
10:35:45 Don't know if I can get the whole thing on here.
10:35:52 Just to put the City of Tampa's pavement condition index
10:35:55 into context with a number of other cities that are
10:35:59 similar population in size, we are very pleased we have
10:36:04 accurate data now that tells us what our overall rating
10:36:08 is and we're pleased we're right in that target industry
10:36:13 range and in with our other peers, with our pavement
10:36:17 condition for our roadways.
10:36:20 So, we're real pleased about that information and
10:36:25 encouraged we have a good database now.
10:36:28 We have put some better protocols into place that are
10:36:30 going to continue to update that information on a regular
10:36:34 basis.
10:36:35 And so, as we go forward each year with planning our
10:36:39 budget and our priorities for our roadways, we're going
10:36:43 to know that we have good information to base those
10:36:46 decisions on.
10:36:47 Just wanted to also share a little bit, when we say
10:36:50 pavement condition and we throw these numbers, 60, 70, 80
10:36:54 out there, what that really means.
10:36:56 This is another helpful diagram.
10:37:00 Basically this is just a rating chart that shares a
10:37:08 little bit about what those different categories are.
10:37:12 I mentioned City of Tampa is a 71, our citywide average.
10:37:16 And those are the city collectors and local streets.
10:37:19 That category, pavement is mostly requiring preventive
10:37:28 maintenance and showing low levels of distress.
10:37:31 Obviously you can see from this chart that the ranges go
10:37:35 all the way from excellent, which is essentially anything
10:37:38 80 or above is essentially continually resurfacing the
10:37:42 streets to a new condition.
10:37:44 Which we know, we did some research and I think there was
10:37:49 one small city in California, a very high salary income
10:37:55 that has something in that range.
10:37:57 But that's virtually not found anywhere because it's not
10:38:00 realistic to have that type of an investment in this
10:38:03 asset.
10:38:04 Obviously as you go down, the ranges get lower and the
10:38:08 condition deteriorates.
10:38:10 And what we want to be making sure is that we don't let
10:38:13 our roads deteriorate to the point where that asset needs
10:38:17 a bigger investment to rebuild the actual roadway.
10:38:20 We want to continue to do enough investment to keep the
10:38:23 roadways safe and rideable and meeting acceptable
10:38:27 standards without getting to the point where it fails and
10:38:31 becomes unsafe and it requires a bigger investment to
10:38:34 keep it in the condition it should be.
10:38:37 So, again, I just want to reiterate that we feel very
10:38:41 comfortable with the range that we have and I also want
10:38:44 to mention that we do separate our collector roads from
10:38:48 our local roads.
10:38:49 Local roads being our residential streets.
10:38:52 The collector roads have higher traffic volume, higher
10:38:56 traffic loading.
10:38:57 They're more critical in terms of evacuation and detour
10:39:01 routes.
10:39:02 And so, we have all of our collector roads at a little
10:39:05 bit of higher rate to make sure the range that they need
10:39:09 to be in were keeping up with that investment so those
10:39:13 collectors don't become a serious condition.
10:39:15 So there was an interest in putting more investment into
10:39:23 this particular asset -- sorry.
10:39:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Keep going.
10:39:27 >> Losing my train of thought here.
10:39:30 Apologize.
10:39:31 There's an interest in putting more investment in this
10:39:35 particular asset.
10:39:36 And that certainly is always an interest to try to invest
10:39:40 more into the assets we have.
10:39:42 Our constant balancing act is taking the monies we get
10:39:46 from our one dedicated fund source that we have for
10:39:48 maintenance, which is our gas tax, and spreading that
10:39:53 over the variety of needs we have with our 550 traffic
10:39:56 signals, our 50 plus bridges, our sidewalks, safety
10:40:01 projects, pedestrian upgrades and so I feel that right
10:40:05 now we are comfortable with where we are in terms of our
10:40:08 investment this year with this particular asset.
10:40:11 We're always interested in finding ways to do more.
10:40:15 We constantly are seeking DOT funding.
10:40:19 We're very pleased that we have redevelopment going on in
10:40:22 the city, which is improving those roadway assets.
10:40:26 We do collect about $1.7 million a year average in impact
10:40:31 fees.
10:40:32 Those impact fees go directly back into the roadways.
10:40:35 Much of which is a resurfacing component.
10:40:38 So, that's sort of my overview of our situation with our
10:40:45 resurfacing investment.
10:40:47 And if I could take any questions or answer any
10:40:49 questions, I'll be happy to do so.
10:40:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Cohen?
10:40:53 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
10:40:54 A couple of items.
10:40:56 First of all, congratulations on the overall number.
10:40:59 And I know that it's great news, everyone's thrilled that
10:41:03 Westshore is going to reopen, South Westshore is going to
10:41:06 reopen on Friday.
10:41:07 Three weeks ahead of schedule.
10:41:09 So I'm sure everyone who has been inconvenienced by the
10:41:13 various different detours down in Sunset Park and Beach
10:41:16 Park are going to be thrilled about that.
10:41:18 The fact that a lot of our roads are in good condition
10:41:24 still means that there are certain number that are not.
10:41:28 And I have to tell you that there are, as you know,
10:41:32 places right now where you are replacing water pipes.
10:41:35 And I have sort of a two pronged question about that.
10:41:38 The first is, after that work is done, sometimes can be
10:41:43 very, very extensive and disruptive to the pavement, are
10:41:46 those streets repaved after it's complete or are they
10:41:50 just sort of patched back up and left in whatever the
10:41:55 condition is that they are at the end of the project?
10:41:58 >> That's an excellent question.
10:42:00 Couple things on that.
10:42:01 One is, we are continuing to improve our coordination
10:42:05 amongst all of our public works departments to do the
10:42:09 best we can, there's always strings on money and certain
10:42:13 schedules are what they are.
10:42:14 But to the best extent that we can coordinate and align
10:42:19 our projects, for example, water project and resurfacing
10:42:22 project.
10:42:23 We have that situation in Bayshore Beautiful, for
10:42:25 example, where we have coordinated with the water
10:42:28 department, actually and the wastewater department in
10:42:30 that case and they will go in and do their utility work.
10:42:34 They will patch -- I'll use that word, the roads when
10:42:39 they're done.
10:42:39 And when they are completely out of the way, we will come
10:42:42 in, TSS, transportation stormwater services and resurface
10:42:48 those roads.
10:42:49 Another thing that's going on that's improving our road
10:42:51 situation is, there's a new protocol issued by our
10:42:55 administrator Brad Baird, and that is when utility is
10:42:59 going in and digging into the road, they're now required
10:43:02 to replace the full width of the roadway segment.
10:43:06 What that's doing, that is allowing for a seam to not be
10:43:10 created in the middle of the road and that seam becomes a
10:43:14 compromising situation for the roadway, where water is
10:43:18 seeping in.
10:43:19 We wouldn't put a leaky water pipe back in for the water
10:43:22 department.
10:43:23 So they are now not putting any leaky roadway surface
10:43:26 back in for our roadways.
10:43:27 So those two things are going to help incrementally to
10:43:31 improve the road condition whenever a utility work is
10:43:35 done and also improve coordination of doing a full,
10:43:40 proper resurfacing when a utility project is done and not
10:43:43 just having a patchwork quilt.
10:43:46 >>HARRY COHEN: My last question, I have to ask you about
10:43:48 the work being done on Palm Drive in Bayshore gardens.
10:43:51 We had a major project that we approved in that
10:43:55 neighborhood.
10:43:55 I believe on first reading the other night.
10:43:58 But, you know, I live over there and I have to tell you
10:44:01 the contrary to what I believe Councilman Miranda may or
10:44:06 may not have somebody served, honestly it's the worst
10:44:09 I've ever seen in terms of how bad the, the pavement and
10:44:14 the construction are and how -- it's by the way right,
10:44:17 you know, as you know, a bus route as well.
10:44:20 Is there a plan to do something over there once all this
10:44:24 work is completed?
10:44:27 >> That is another project where the water department is
10:44:29 going in and then putting back the segments that they are
10:44:33 repairing.
10:44:34 In that case we're not following with a full resurfacing,
10:44:39 we are on Bayshore Beautiful, just because the schedules
10:44:42 didn't line up that way.
10:44:43 But Bayshore Gardens is another area that's on our radar
10:44:46 for that type of improvements.
10:44:50 Other thing I want to mention that we're doing that will
10:44:53 help a situation like Bayshore Gardens is, often when we
10:44:56 have these pavement condition index averages, areas are
10:45:02 averaged and there's often a segment within an area or a
10:45:05 couple streets within an area that are practically in a
10:45:08 failed condition.
10:45:09 But everything else is so good, the average becomes
10:45:13 acceptable.
10:45:13 So we have another change we have made in our pavement
10:45:16 management program where we are looking within those
10:45:20 pockets, it's more efficient to go out and do a pocket or
10:45:23 an area all at one time than a little piece here, little
10:45:26 piece there.
10:45:27 But often those pockets have a segment in it that's fade
10:45:31 or in very poor conditions and we are going out and doing
10:45:35 a segment under our in-house maintenance team, repairing
10:45:39 those segments or just those one or two blocks of roadway
10:45:43 within a neighborhood.
10:45:44 And that way they're not -- that portion of the
10:45:46 neighborhood is not getting overlooked.
10:45:48 So we do have Bayshore Gardens on our outlook.
10:45:53 >>HARRY COHEN: I think it should be on your radar, there
10:45:55 are probably 700 to a thousand new units going into that
10:45:58 neighborhood in the next 18 months.
10:46:00 There's going to be huge amount of construction.
10:46:02 And if it collides with the kind of work that's going on
10:46:07 right now and the pavement conditions, it really is a
10:46:10 recipe for gridlock.
10:46:11 I just want to make you aware of it.
10:46:14 I know you already are.
10:46:15 But it really is a matter that has been coming up a lot
10:46:18 lately.
10:46:19 So thank you.
10:46:19 >> Yes, sir.
10:46:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Montelione?
10:46:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:46:23 I was wondering -- thank you for this information and
10:46:27 putting the procedure in place to track the progress.
10:46:31 And I was wondering, could this information be broken
10:46:38 down even further by area of the city?
10:46:41 So whether by transportation improvement area, I mean,
10:46:45 are boundaries that you already have set, maybe, I don't
10:46:50 know, code enforcement boundaries, as they break the city
10:46:53 up into three different sections.
10:46:55 Somehow that we can see comparison of the different --
10:47:00 I'm not going to ask you to do it by Council district
10:47:03 because that would be a boundary that would be tough for
10:47:06 you to develop or program.
10:47:10 But you already have the transportation improvement area
10:47:12 boundaries in your systems.
10:47:14 And maybe that could shed light on where the hot spots
10:47:17 are for improvement.
10:47:20 So you know, all of us can advocate for those projects as
10:47:24 we go along.
10:47:26 >> We have a full database.
10:47:28 We have a full inventory of the city.
10:47:31 And we can query to see where those hot spots are.
10:47:35 That's part of how we make our decisions of where we need
10:47:38 to make our investments for the assets.
10:47:41 So that's part of how we are making those decisions now.
10:47:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Could we -- I'm not sure if I want to
10:47:50 make this as a motion, but if we could get that
10:47:55 information, maybe on a quarterly basis, or maybe even
10:48:00 biannually.
10:48:01 I don't think quarterly is even necessary.
10:48:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You want to make that into a motion?
10:48:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I will make that as a motion.
10:48:08 For the benefit of ya'll, because I won't be here for the
10:48:11 first report.
10:48:12 So I move that the Department of Transportation and
10:48:18 stormwater maintenance and engineering provide a
10:48:23 breakdown of pavement condition by transportation
10:48:32 improvement area -- would that be a good -- is there a
10:48:37 different?
10:48:41 [Inaudible]
10:48:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
10:48:43 By Council district.
10:48:45 >> We know those boundaries very well.
10:48:47 [ Laughter ]
10:48:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The improvement area is something they
10:48:53 already have in the system.
10:48:54 If it's just as easy to do it by Council district, that's
10:48:57 just as well.
10:48:58 And that would be delivered to Council on a biannual
10:49:01 basis and that could be as a received and filed report.
10:49:05 >> Certainly.
10:49:07 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:49:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Ms. Montelione, second from
10:49:09 Mr. Cohen.
10:49:10 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
10:49:11 aye.
10:49:11 Any opposed?
10:49:13 Anything else?
10:49:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Only other thing I would ask is
10:49:16 informally if you could provide each of us an updated
10:49:20 schedule of the paving projects that are either under way
10:49:26 now or scheduled, we can get a look at what is on your
10:49:31 radar because we have schedules, but they're I think
10:49:35 dated.
10:49:36 So if we can get new ones, now that you have this
10:49:38 information and you have a new way of scheduling those
10:49:40 projects, I think all of us would like to see what those
10:49:44 are.
10:49:44 And again, by Council district because that's how we have
10:49:48 always been provided those reports.
10:49:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Another motion?
10:49:51 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That is another motion.
10:49:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do I have a second?
10:49:54 Have a second motion from Ms. Montelione, second from Mr.
10:49:55 Cohen.
10:49:59 All in favor please indicate by saying aye.
10:50:00 Any opposed?
10:50:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I didn't put a date on that.
10:50:04 As soon as you can get it to us.
10:50:06 Thank you, Ms. Duncan.
10:50:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions of Miss Duncan?
10:50:11 Ms. Duncan, a quick question for you.
10:50:14 The pavement condition index is an interesting thing.
10:50:16 Here's the thing that I saw.
10:50:18 First of all, A, I like that number.
10:50:20 71 is a good number.
10:50:22 I'm glad to see that we're moving up in terms of the
10:50:25 number.
10:50:25 Here's the thing that I have a problem with, is that the
10:50:27 comparisons are to relatively dry and not so hot places
10:50:34 except for Clearwater.
10:50:36 And I guess my question is, how do we compare to the kind
10:50:40 of hot, humid conditions that we have here, because
10:50:44 obviously if you compare Chicago to New York, you've got
10:50:47 a little bit of, of something that is similar, which is a
10:50:51 cold climate, they deal with ice and sleet and the salt
10:50:55 that goes onto the roads and stuff.
10:50:57 We don't have any of that we have other types of things.
10:51:00 Clearwater may have more salt in the air and more salt in
10:51:04 their conditions than we do because they're closer to the
10:51:07 water.
10:51:07 So, how much does the area in which they are at affect
10:51:13 the PCI of the roads?
10:51:16 And I assume there is something to that, if you don't
10:51:19 mind addressing that.
10:51:20 >> Oh, you're absolutely right.
10:51:22 The water table, the environment, if there's snow, of
10:51:26 course snow translates to water, which is basically the
10:51:30 same as, effect as rain.
10:51:33 The cold, the heat cause expansion, contraction, so those
10:51:37 environments definitely are a factor.
10:51:39 And I wasn't meaning to give you a good snapshot --
10:51:43 >> MICHAEL SUAREZ: No, no, that was not the intent of the
10:51:45 question.
10:51:46 The intent of the question was, we're doing very well.
10:51:49 You know, how do we compare to let's say Miami or an
10:51:52 Orlando or something like that?
10:51:53 And I know you did it based on similar population and
10:51:56 land area.
10:51:57 Clearwater is significantly smaller than us but they
10:51:59 probably have, if I recall, a fairly big area that they
10:52:03 cover similar to us.
10:52:05 But I just wanted to know, are we topnotch in the state?
10:52:09 Are we middle?
10:52:10 Are we, you know?
10:52:13 >> I can pull some specific data on that but I can tell
10:52:16 you to be at a 71 is a very good place.
10:52:19 I also want to say that there might be folks not agreeing
10:52:25 with that comment.
10:52:26 But it's not the aesthetics that is driving that number.
10:52:30 The looks may not be what someone thinks should be a good
10:52:34 rating.
10:52:35 But the rating is based on, as you know, the asset
10:52:39 criteria, the cracking, the base condition, the safety of
10:52:44 the road, so we could have a local road that doesn't look
10:52:48 that great.
10:52:48 It's a little bit bumpy.
10:52:50 But it's not unsafe and considering the resources we have
10:52:55 and the condition of that particular asset, it doesn't
10:52:59 rise to the top of needing investment and it doesn't rise
10:53:02 to the top of being considered, you know, poor or at risk
10:53:06 or anything like that.
10:53:07 So, the aesthetics is often what people are judging their
10:53:12 view of this.
10:53:13 But that's really not the factor that's developing these
10:53:19 ratings.
10:53:19 Some give you an answer without specific data, I would
10:53:22 say we are very comfortable if not ahead of many of our
10:53:26 other cities because this is a very good rating to be at.
10:53:30 And if others that are at this rating are taking the same
10:53:34 focused approach on this, and putting the right asset,
10:53:38 the right investment in this asset to be able to have
10:53:40 that level.
10:53:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Not to mention that it's hard for us to
10:53:43 compare some of them because they may have specific taxes
10:53:47 that go directly into the roads.
10:53:49 So they may be higher than us or close to us because of
10:53:53 that investment that is made at each one of those local
10:53:57 levels.
10:53:58 Most of the cities that you mentioned here, except for
10:54:00 Clearwater, usually have the power to do referendums and
10:54:04 to do other taxing packages that allow them to put money
10:54:09 into their roads.
10:54:11 So, I mean we're stuck at the mercy of some other folks
10:54:15 across the way here and sometimes we don't get what we
10:54:17 think is comparable amount to some other cities.
10:54:21 Now in terms of, and here's the thing, because when I'm
10:54:24 looking at these lists, obviously, San Francisco, you
10:54:27 know, Oakland, Aurora is another place that has a fairly
10:54:37 good medium income.
10:54:39 Tulsa, Oklahoma is really considered because of oil and
10:54:41 everything else, they have a very wealthy area over
10:54:44 there.
10:54:45 So I'm as wondering where we're at in terms of this.
10:54:48 And the performance is great.
10:54:50 I appreciate it.
10:54:51 Not that we should do better but I know we need to
10:54:54 identify those areas in which we need those additional
10:54:56 dollars because if you look at what the motion was,
10:54:59 Ms. Montelione put three subsets in there concerning the
10:55:04 referendum, which we're not going to be talking about now
10:55:06 because there is no referendum.
10:55:08 And you know.
10:55:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Sad, sad, sad.
10:55:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: There's a lot of sad things that we have
10:55:12 to deal with unfortunately.
10:55:14 One last question in terms of the paving.
10:55:18 I know that we have talked about this almost, you know,
10:55:23 ad nauseam about the paver and some of the issues
10:55:26 concerning the paver and the purchase, the number of
10:55:29 hours that have been operating and so on.
10:55:31 Let's get this to an end game at this point if we can.
10:55:35 Which is, the paver itself we are still looking at trying
10:55:39 to sell it back, correct?
10:55:41 >> Yes, sir.
10:55:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:55:42 Is it operating at a level that allows for the warranty
10:55:48 to still be in place?
10:55:49 >> Yes, it does.
10:55:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So how many, if you know off the top of
10:55:53 your head -- if you don't, that's fine -- but how many
10:55:56 roads or how many jobs is it doing now as, when it's
10:55:59 operating?
10:56:00 Because it may be, you know, is it doing three miles of
10:56:04 road, one mile of road?
10:56:05 And again, I just want to know to see where we're at with
10:56:09 this thing.
10:56:09 >> I really don't have that particular information but I
10:56:12 can tell you, within the next month, we'll be making a
10:56:15 decision to keep it until established date of next
10:56:20 August, or whether to go ahead and salvage it and sell
10:56:23 another very old paver that we have, we call it the Lee
10:56:27 boy, whether we should salvage the bigger paver and the
10:56:33 Lee boy and buy something, somewhat in the middle of
10:56:37 those two pieces of equipment that can be a little more
10:56:40 efficient for the need that we have and still get the
10:56:42 best return on our original investment.
10:56:45 So we'll be probably making that decision within the next
10:56:47 month.
10:56:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: When you say next August, you mean 2017?
10:56:51 >> Yes -- 2017, yes.
10:56:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Just to make sure.
10:56:55 Because you said next August.
10:56:58 >> Years, August of next year, 2017 is our date of, when
10:57:03 our contract is up, so to speak.
10:57:05 We have between now and then to make that decision.
10:57:07 But we feel like we can probably make that decision
10:57:10 fairly soon.
10:57:12 And decide which is the best way to go and so we'll
10:57:16 definitely be doing that.
10:57:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
10:57:18 I appreciate it.
10:57:19 Any other questions for Ms. Duncan on this item?
10:57:22 Ms. Duncan, thanks so much.
10:57:24 Appreciate it.
10:57:25 >> Thank you.
10:57:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:57:26 Next up we have item number 93, Mr. Hart.
10:57:30 >> Good morning, Gregory Hart, manager, small business
10:57:42 minority business development.
10:57:44 I'm here to address the Council item changing the term
10:57:53 good faith efforts.
10:57:55 I do have a few overhead slides that shouldn't --
10:58:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Hart [Inaudible]
10:58:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's perfect.
10:58:11 Move it back.
10:58:13 >> Don't use it every day.
10:58:16 Hope not to.
10:58:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We don't pay you to use that.
10:58:19 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We don't have Vince Pardo any more to
10:58:23 lend a hand.
10:58:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You were good.
10:58:32 Those two paragraphs are everything?
10:58:34 >> There's about four slides.
10:58:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, just put it for that one right now
10:58:37 and you can move it when you get to the next one.
10:58:40 That's perfect.
10:58:41 Go ahead, sir.
10:58:42 >> So, thank you.
10:58:43 If you could bear with me.
10:58:44 Again, here at your request to address changing the term
10:58:48 good-faith effort as relates to the city's program.
10:58:51 The good-faith effort terminology, the origin of that
10:58:56 terminology I think is important to understand.
10:58:57 Good-faith effort is a legal doctrine which has been
10:59:01 applied by law in both commercial and noncommercial
10:59:05 contracts.
10:59:05 To essentially require bona fide actions by contractors.
10:59:10 The universal good faith effort definition as it pertains
10:59:16 to women minority business, small local business and
10:59:20 disadvantaged business programs is as follows.
10:59:23 Good faith effort means commonable action steps or
10:59:27 efforts taken by bidder or contractor to achieve the
10:59:31 woman minority business and or the small local business
10:59:35 participation goals.
10:59:36 Actions that by their scope, intensity and
10:59:41 appropriateness to the objective can reasonably be
10:59:45 expected to full till the program requirements to attain
10:59:49 the participation.
10:59:49 The reason or justification for adopting this term and
11:00:01 its methodology is because of the be enabling authority
11:00:05 and good faith effort legislation that guides us to do
11:00:08 so.
11:00:08 Those enabling authorities include the United States
11:00:14 federal government, under title 49, code of federal
11:00:18 regulations, chapter 26 and other sections and chapters,
11:00:22 mandate use of good-faith efforts terminology by all
11:00:25 public governing bodies that are recipients of federal
11:00:28 funds.
11:00:29 I need not tell Council the extent to which federal
11:00:32 dollars are co-mingled in both our operating budget and
11:00:36 capital budget.
11:00:37 I'm sure there are many items before you today that have
11:00:40 a sprinkling of federal funds.
11:00:42 The state of Florida government, Florida Statutes title
11:00:47 19, under public business and procurement, chapter 287
11:00:51 mandate use of good-faith efforts terminology.
11:00:54 We are an entities under the state of Florida.
11:00:56 Hillsborough County government, board of county
11:01:00 commission resolutions pertaining to operating policies
11:01:03 and procedures, mandate use of good-faith efforts
11:01:07 terminology in the administration of county, women
11:01:11 minority business, disadvantaged minority business and
11:01:14 small business enterprise programs.
11:01:15 We are a entity under the jurisdiction of Hillsborough
11:01:19 County.
11:01:19 And last but not least of course, the City of Tampa
11:01:24 municipal government, City Council, you, under your code
11:01:28 of ordinance 2008-89 Chapter 27 mirrors the county,
11:01:33 state, federal legislative guidelines.
11:01:36 City policies mandate use of good faith efforts
11:01:39 terminology.
11:01:40 Thought it would be helpful to share also a few of the
11:01:54 Tampa multi-jurisdictional partners that implement
11:01:57 good-faith effort terminology.
11:01:59 Just wanted to give you a sampling.
11:02:02 We collaborate in many different ways with all these
11:02:05 agencies. We refer a certified firms to them and vice
11:02:10 versa.
11:02:11 And we take advantage in marketing and providing
11:02:15 opportunities to our small minority business community.
11:02:18 Some of those multi-jurisdictional partners that operate
11:02:22 across jurisdictional boundaries include Hillsborough
11:02:26 County contracting departments.
11:02:29 The Tampa Hillsborough County Aviation Authority, TIA.
11:02:32 Good faith effort terminology methodology.
11:02:36 The city of Orlando, Florida, which we have collaborating
11:02:40 in reciprocal kinds of policies and relationships with.
11:02:43 Orange County, Florida.
11:02:45 The same here.
11:02:46 We have various collaborating and reciprocal kinds of
11:02:49 policies in place with them.
11:02:53 The St. Petersburg economic development procurement
11:02:55 department, the state of Florida of course.
11:02:58 All these state agencies subscribe and adhere to this.
11:03:02 Miami-Dade Florida and there's the county school
11:03:04 district.
11:03:05 We have some, we have done some dealings with them as
11:03:08 well through refusals and collaboration.
11:03:10 The Jacksonville airport, Palm Beach, Florida, I just
11:03:13 wanted to name a few.
11:03:14 Essentially I could have probably three or four or five
11:03:17 other slides here to tell you how many jurisdictions in
11:03:20 the state of Florida subscribe to this terminology and
11:03:23 methodology.
11:03:23 In conclusion, where I like to emphasize to you.
11:03:38 Good-faith effort, GFE, is the national standard and the
11:03:43 prevailing best practice.
11:03:44 It is one of the primary tenets that upholds the
11:03:49 constitutionality of using race, gender, conscious goals
11:03:52 in the award of public contracts.
11:03:54 GFE, the terminology and guideline is codified in
11:04:00 federal, state, county and municipal procurement contract
11:04:03 law.
11:04:04 GFE, good-faith effort, the methodology documents and
11:04:08 quantifies the practical action steps to identify,
11:04:11 recruit and secure women, minority business and
11:04:15 enterprise conclusion to reach contract goals.
11:04:18 GFE is the rule of thumb in Tampa Bay metropolitan area.
11:04:22 And beyond.
11:04:23 Beyond those borders.
11:04:25 The at-large vendor community is familiar where
11:04:28 complying, they understand that noncompliance results in
11:04:32 rejection of their bid or proposal and they become
11:04:34 ineligible for award.
11:04:36 Which we have done and do quite often.
11:04:38 My recommendation is that, or my findings is that a
11:04:47 change in terms and methodology would, one, it would
11:04:51 deviate from statutory and regulatory conventional
11:04:54 guidance.
11:04:55 It would create dysfunction and hamper our effectiveness
11:05:00 in implementing the program.
11:05:01 It would likely cause confusion and dissension by the bid
11:05:05 community.
11:05:06 And would expose the city to litigation and likely result
11:05:11 in us having to suspend argues of contract goals on our
11:05:15 contracts.
11:05:16 Having said that, my recommendation is that we do not
11:05:21 deviate.
11:05:22 And I cannot support the change.
11:05:26 With that...
11:05:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, Mr. Hart.
11:05:31 Any questions?
11:05:32 Mr. Cohen?
11:05:34 >>HARRY COHEN: You know, based on the conversation we had
11:05:39 earlier this morning, I don't know if the issue is so
11:05:42 much about the language as it is about the accountability
11:05:47 and the results.
11:05:48 And I guess the only question I would have before the
11:05:53 others I know will want to weigh-in is, what can we do
11:05:58 to, legally with our contracts, to tighten up holding
11:06:03 vendors accountable for acting in good faith?
11:06:07 Because ultimately this is about results.
11:06:09 It's about wanting to create results in the community.
11:06:12 So, what could we do to make the contracting process
11:06:16 more, more in line with that goal?
11:06:20 >> Councilman Cohen, in my opinion, I think there's
11:06:23 evidence to support my opinion, it is very tight.
11:06:25 We have processes.
11:06:29 We have documents that are required to be submitted.
11:06:33 We perform desk audits.
11:06:36 We do contract line compliance to determine whether or
11:06:40 not our subcontractors who are certified are being
11:06:44 properly paid.
11:06:44 We have prompt payment requirements, et cetera.
11:06:47 I have shared with all of you through material submitted
11:06:51 previously some of those documents and how they're
11:06:54 utilized.
11:06:55 We provide in the bid document, we actually hand feed
11:06:59 contractors.
11:07:00 We do part of their good faith efforts in some sense in
11:07:03 that we give them a list of available certified firms,
11:07:07 which we mandate and require that they contact and break
11:07:12 down the economical -- economic feasible portions of the
11:07:18 contract, which we want them to submit quotes on.
11:07:20 I shared with Councilman Reddick the rejection desk audit
11:07:26 and surveys that we perform.
11:07:28 And where we reject and have recommended moving on to the
11:07:33 next low bidder.
11:07:35 So I just wanted to summarize that.
11:07:37 It is very tight.
11:07:38 It is perhaps one -- we broach in my opinion the envelope
11:07:45 or the border when it comes to the legal sufficiency and
11:07:53 defensible actions that we take to ensure compliance.
11:07:58 >>HARRY COHEN: You talk about how you deal with bidders.
11:08:00 What about with actual contractors?
11:08:02 Have you ever actually suspended a contract because of
11:08:06 noncompliance?
11:08:07 >> Absolutely.
11:08:08 We have rejected contracts.
11:08:10 We have not renewed contracts.
11:08:12 There's probably I believe one of or two on your agenda
11:08:16 this morning that's second low bidder.
11:08:22 >>HARRY COHEN: Okay.
11:08:23 Thank you.
11:08:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Montelione?
11:08:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you very much.
11:08:25 I just asked my aide to get my other file that I have on
11:08:32 some of the discussions that we have had over the years.
11:08:34 You and I have spent a lot of time together back a while
11:08:39 ago.
11:08:39 You know, I come at this with a different spent because I
11:08:44 was on the other side of the program.
11:08:47 You know, I was the one, my boyfriend's company was a
11:08:56 registered SLBE with the city of Tampa.
11:09:03 When I was running and got elected, we requested that
11:09:06 certification be removed and not renewed.
11:09:10 But I have firsthand experience with how the program
11:09:20 works as a subcontractor.
11:09:23 And I remember the agony that we went through as a, you
11:09:33 know, two-person working administratively, me and Josh
11:09:37 and he was out doing everything else that's required when
11:09:41 you're in the construction business.
11:09:43 And the painful process to respond to a request for, it
11:09:52 was the Sulphur Springs recreation center.
11:09:57 When it was being built.
11:09:58 It took us several days to put the package together.
11:10:03 And at that time, believe it or not, we were still being
11:10:08 requested to submit this bid to the general contractors,
11:10:13 to the prime contractors, who were bidding on the project
11:10:16 by fax.
11:10:17 So I sat there literally, I am not joking, for two solid
11:10:25 days and responded to 27 different contractors, primes,
11:10:32 who were bidding on that project.
11:10:34 We never heard back from anyone.
11:10:36 I had to call them repeatedly to even get them to
11:10:42 acknowledge that they received the information.
11:10:45 And then I had to call them repeatedly to find out the
11:10:49 status.
11:10:51 And that, you know, in that time, it was during the
11:10:57 downturn in the economy, so these 27 companies that were
11:11:00 bidding were all over the United States.
11:11:02 I would suspect that it's changed a bit now.
11:11:07 But there's nothing required of those contractors to ever
11:11:15 utilize any of the respondents.
11:11:18 All they have to do is check the box that yes, we reached
11:11:22 out to the minority small business, WMBE, SLBE,
11:11:27 businesses on your list, but we prefer to use the people
11:11:32 that we have always used.
11:11:34 There's nothing that -- there's no teeth.
11:11:38 And to have the false hope that someone is an MBE, SLBE,
11:11:44 WMBE, or any of the other acronyms, in the minority
11:11:51 contracting business or small local business contractors,
11:11:55 to have that hope that this, that you're going to
11:11:58 actually get work out of this is sometimes false hope.
11:12:03 We have no requirements of, built into the process.
11:12:14 And although the good faith language may be, you know,
11:12:19 standardized across jurisdictions, I've always and I
11:12:24 think others here have always said well, you know,
11:12:27 there's no harm in being first.
11:12:28 To set a precedent, to set an example, to be a leader.
11:12:34 And to have language in there that maybe others can
11:12:41 emulate.
11:12:42 And you know, when we come back on the 14th of July, for
11:12:51 the next discussion about this, and expanded discussion
11:12:55 about this in relation to the motion that I made, I hope
11:13:00 that there's some other suggestions that you can come
11:13:04 forward with to make this a better process.
11:13:06 I just got, you know, thank you, Mr. Shelby, for the
11:13:15 copies.
11:13:16 Thank you, Mr. Hart, for the copies.
11:13:18 There's no qualifier for demonstrable actions or efforts
11:13:26 taken by a bidder contractor.
11:13:29 Simply sending in the fax or responding now by email or
11:13:35 something is all you got to do.
11:13:37 They can ignore them.
11:13:38 They can just throw it in the trash.
11:13:41 >> Ms. Montelione, I respectfully disagree.
11:13:43 One of the packets I provided you at one of our last
11:13:46 meetings gave you a sampling of some of those documents.
11:13:51 A lot of things have changed perhaps in 7 years since
11:13:56 that incident that you refer to occurred.
11:13:59 Short of a quota approach or system, the contractor is
11:14:11 obligated to consider your quote, is it competitive
11:14:17 within the peer group that you represent?
11:14:20 They may select a different certified firm.
11:14:23 They are not required, short of a quota, to use you
11:14:27 regardless of your price, your capacity and experience.
11:14:31 It is still a competitive environment which the law
11:14:35 requires us to promote.
11:14:36 We do so within the confines of focusing on small and
11:14:40 minority businesses, ensuring they get to compete within
11:14:43 their peer group and that the, and that we have a level
11:14:46 playing field through our initiatives.
11:14:49 To give them more opportunities, like sheltered
11:14:52 marketing, like the ten evaluation points out of a
11:14:55 hundred in RFP and CC and A requests for proposals.
11:15:00 We are operating at the maximum extent possible under
11:15:04 confines of law.
11:15:05 Many things have changed.
11:15:07 So I think a lot of what you are concerned about has been
11:15:12 addressed and I can, when I come back, perhaps I'll have
11:15:20 the time to reference and we can walk through some of the
11:15:23 steps, documents and requirements.
11:15:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well --
11:15:26 >> But I do understand.
11:15:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I hope you're right, that things have
11:15:30 changed.
11:15:30 But by the evidence of TOBA and being here this morning
11:15:34 and sending us this letter and advocating the way they
11:15:37 have, it's their opinion as well that it's still, you
11:15:41 know, not sufficient to accommodate the spending of city
11:15:48 dollars with the minority community.
11:15:50 >> I wasn't here this morning.
11:15:51 I did hear on my over there was a representative from
11:15:57 TOBA presenting some statements.
11:15:59 I would ask the Council and community hold TOBA
11:16:03 accountable for what they're stating.
11:16:05 I certainly would make myself able to inform them of the
11:16:09 law and the program and the issues that we are vigorously
11:16:15 addressing.
11:16:16 Any information that they provided I would simply ask,
11:16:23 what's the basis of that?
11:16:24 At least provide some evidence that we can respond to.
11:16:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, you had said that you didn't
11:16:29 receive a copy of the letter that is dated may 25th and
11:16:32 the accompanying document that they sent with it.
11:16:40 At the last Council meeting, my aide made a copy for you
11:16:44 and you were provided that.
11:16:45 Since that time you have not been in touch with them to
11:16:48 discuss this?
11:16:49 >> No I haven't.
11:16:50 I understood that July 14th, a lot of that information
11:16:54 would be provided.
11:16:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I guess my suggestion would be for you
11:16:58 to be more proactive.
11:16:59 So if you say you haven't heard from them and you were
11:17:02 provided by my office a copy of their, their document and
11:17:07 their request, that maybe you might pick up the phone and
11:17:10 call them.
11:17:11 >> We are proactive.
11:17:12 I spoke with Mr. Ransom directly.
11:17:14 He's been to my office.
11:17:15 But regarding this information that you were given and we
11:17:18 were not, a week or two ago, correct, I have not since
11:17:23 last week.
11:17:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
11:17:24 Thank you.
11:17:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick?
11:17:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
11:17:28 And just to follow up on the discussion colleague just
11:17:32 stated and from what we heard this morning, I did have a
11:17:39 meeting with you and went over a lot of this stuff, but
11:17:42 you know, it seemed to continue to be a lot of
11:17:48 apprehension and we got that this morning from three
11:17:53 people that were representing the TOBA and Saturday
11:17:59 morning breakfast group.
11:18:01 And one thing they stated that, I don't think we never
11:18:05 done or had discussion about it, but I thought it was a
11:18:08 good idea, and it's not about the -- I think it's finding
11:18:15 the right language that can be acceptable to a lot of
11:18:19 people.
11:18:19 And one of the things they stated and I was just looking
11:18:24 at our agenda for July.
11:18:26 I see where Ms. Montelione is at, you coming back on the
11:18:32 14th with a, to address certain issues.
11:18:36 And what I was thinking by based on what they suggested,
11:18:43 I'm going to probably do this in the form of a motion,
11:18:46 Mr. Chair.
11:18:47 That you meet with the legal department to determine some
11:18:56 language that you can present to us on the 14th that
11:19:01 would address this good faith effort that we was talking
11:19:06 about and basically want to do is see how we can make
11:19:10 sure that the people receiving contracts from the city,
11:19:13 that they will, that they're hiring those people that is
11:19:18 on your MBE list in the form of providing them the
11:19:27 contract.
11:19:27 And I think that's one thing they suggested, that maybe
11:19:32 getting with the attorney and reviewing language that can
11:19:35 be acceptable and I'm thinking of putting this right.
11:19:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Reddick, second from
11:19:43 Ms. Montelione.
11:19:43 Discussion, Mr. Miranda, you want to discussion that
11:19:46 motion?
11:19:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to thank Mr. Reddick from
11:19:50 bringing it up.
11:19:50 Nowhere in any conversation this is brought up has the
11:19:53 legal department been involved that I know of.
11:19:55 I'm glad you brought it up, Mr. Reddick, bring up the
11:19:58 facts.
11:19:58 The facts are the language is per missable, change are
11:20:01 necessary and what are the changes not acceptable to law?
11:20:03 That's where we're talking about, law.
11:20:05 Not this law, all the laws of the country.
11:20:07 I want to make sure all, I'm sure Mr. Reddick made that
11:20:11 motion in that sense, make sure everybody's got a fair
11:20:14 shot.
11:20:14 That's all I want.
11:20:15 Thank.
11:20:16 >> MICHAEL SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Reddick,
11:20:18 second from Ms. Montelione, as I mentioned before.
11:20:21 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
11:20:23 aye.
11:20:24 Any opposed?
11:20:25 I have just one last thing, Mr. Hart.
11:20:27 And I think that what Mr. Miranda and what Mr. Reddick
11:20:30 are saying is extremely important because we are mixing
11:20:33 two different issues, which is the process that you have
11:20:36 to go through in order to meet federal and state law and
11:20:39 the outcomes of those contracts that we keep awarding on
11:20:43 a weekly basis to contractors that may or may not be
11:20:48 following our particular processes.
11:20:50 And there was some ideas that Mr. Ransom brought forward
11:20:54 to us this morning that deals with outcomes.
11:20:57 And part of the problem with outcomes and I think that
11:21:00 the legal department will probably share that with,
11:21:02 that's been attacked in other jurisdictions also
11:21:05 constitutionally, so we need to make sure that we follow
11:21:08 everything possible so we are not constantly being taken
11:21:12 to court because we have put together something that we
11:21:15 think is right but is not legally defensible.
11:21:18 At the same time I think there are some things we might
11:21:20 be able to change in order to reinvigorate or out reach
11:21:24 and reinvigorate the way we get folks contracts
11:21:28 throughout our whole system.
11:21:30 So I appreciate you being here.
11:21:32 I know you do not have a very easy job.
11:21:34 You are one of the most pigeonholed administrator we have
11:21:38 because you are strapped in by state, federal and county
11:21:42 ordinance and it is a very difficult job to have.
11:21:45 So we appreciate you being here.
11:21:47 Thank you for your insight.
11:21:48 >> Thank you, sir.
11:21:49 Do I appreciate that.
11:21:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions from Council?
11:21:52 Mr. Hart?
11:21:53 Mr. Hart, thank you so much.
11:21:55 >> Thank you for your time.
11:21:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item 94, staff?
11:22:02 >> Director of the parking division got called away on an
11:22:05 emergency.
11:22:06 I'm not sure how long it will take.
11:22:08 I'm here to answer any questions.
11:22:10 I've provided a chart and a memo to Council that has
11:22:15 additional information that we were able to obtain from
11:22:18 other jurisdictions that had this type of programs
11:22:21 available.
11:22:23 And that was generated by contacting those jurisdictions,
11:22:32 the ones that we were able to get in touch with or would
11:22:35 call us back.
11:22:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
11:22:37 Terrific.
11:22:38 Any questions from staff?
11:22:40 Mr. Maniscalco?
11:22:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Certifications I've had with the
11:22:43 legal department and parking division to see how we would
11:22:45 work this food for fines program, we of course would have
11:22:49 to ask for an ordinance to be presented which would amend
11:22:53 the parking code to allow for alternative form for
11:22:56 payment for parking citation.
11:22:58 In this case it would be food.
11:23:00 Looking at how other cities, other jurisdictions have
11:23:03 done this, to give you a rundown, you get a parking
11:23:08 ticket, parking on the street in downtown.
11:23:10 It would be limited to within downtown.
11:23:13 Let's say it's $25.
11:23:15 You would then be within the certain period of time,
11:23:18 which I've laid out would be from November 14th to
11:23:21 December 16th, you would be able to bring in food item, a
11:23:28 canned food item, a maximum of $15, which would be one
11:23:33 dollar per item, so $15 maximum.
11:23:36 You would then pay the remainder of the parking fee,
11:23:39 whatever it be, $10.
11:23:41 It would be of course for street parking in downtown.
11:23:44 A question that came up in the last conversation we had
11:23:47 was, who will pick up the food, you know, will we require
11:23:52 city staff to organize it, take care of it, pick it up?
11:23:56 We have feeding Tampa Bay, which is an umbrella group
11:23:59 that would come in on a weekly basis at no charge and
11:24:03 pick up the canned food.
11:24:05 They in turn would take it to their distribution center
11:24:07 and it would be other organizations, for example,
11:24:09 Metropolitan Ministries, which is in support of this.
11:24:13 Salvation Army, which is in support of this, or any other
11:24:15 group that goes to feeding Tampa Bay, would be eligible
11:24:19 to be picking this up.
11:24:20 Now, another question that came up was, the parking
11:24:23 division and revenue and scraping by for every dollar and
11:24:27 what not, you know, we looked at their numbers.
11:24:30 We had the, you know, we had more than expected so far
11:24:35 this year and the reason is we had the hockey playoffs,
11:24:38 which generated a little more money.
11:24:40 Couple events downtown.
11:24:41 Generated a little bit more money.
11:24:43 So we have to see what is the financial burden if any on
11:24:48 the City of Tampa.
11:24:49 I looked at Lexington, Kentucky, they collected 6200 cans
11:24:55 when they began their program.
11:24:57 That would be $6,200.
11:24:59 It's basically, it's peanuts, it's a drop in the bucket.
11:25:02 In comparison to what, to any loss of revenue.
11:25:07 We have made it up with numbers more than expected
11:25:10 because of, you know, playoffs and what not, other
11:25:13 events.
11:25:14 So, from financial perspective, you know, it's minimal,
11:25:17 if any, on the impact.
11:25:20 I think what this does is, it brings awareness, the
11:25:24 gentleman mentioned, it brings awareness to the issue of
11:25:28 hunger, the shortage of food.
11:25:31 This, you know, won't be anything huge but it opens the
11:25:35 door to a more conversation.
11:25:37 And that's, that's really it.
11:25:40 I think it's very simple.
11:25:42 Easy to understand.
11:25:43 We can try it for this year.
11:25:45 It will run for that limited period of time from the
11:25:48 14th of November to December 16th.
11:25:50 Not a year long thing.
11:25:52 And if it is successful we can use this model to
11:25:55 determine if we want to move forward with it in the
11:25:57 future.
11:25:58 So, basically that's it.
11:26:00 Unless anybody else has any questions.
11:26:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's okay.
11:26:03 I'll run the meeting.
11:26:04 [ Laughter ]
11:26:05 Are you done, Mr. Maniscalco?
11:26:09 Okay, Mr. Miranda.
11:26:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Everything I've heard is honorable
11:26:12 from Councilmember Maniscalco.
11:26:15 However, I have a very difficult problem anyway taking
11:26:18 any revenue from an enterprise fund.
11:26:20 That's why the enterprise funds.
11:26:22 They've got to create their own revenue.
11:26:24 They've got to function, pay the debt, they got to pay
11:26:27 the insurance, they got to pay everything for all the
11:26:29 employees, the maintenance, buying of equipment,
11:26:31 everything from that enterprise fund.
11:26:33 So once you start with one thing, history tells me you're
11:26:39 going to have others want the same thing.
11:26:41 First of all, I think today and I think 10 years from
11:26:44 now, I'm not an attorney, don't plan to ever be an
11:26:47 attorney.
11:26:48 At my age I plan to be just who I am.
11:26:50 However, I'm going to act like an attorney.
11:26:55 If somebody gets a parking ticket before this goes in
11:26:58 effect and after, they have the right to go to court.
11:27:02 What is the judge going to say?
11:27:06 I don't know.
11:27:06 But we're creating something, or the possibility of
11:27:09 creating something in the cities that were mentioned, I
11:27:12 don't know if they have enterprise funds.
11:27:15 I don't know if they're all funded by the general fund.
11:27:18 I don't know anything about that.
11:27:20 So it just to me is a start that will deteriorate those
11:27:24 revenues from that one department.
11:27:25 And that one department is the only department that
11:27:29 didn't see too clear in the past, in other words, they
11:27:32 were in the red.
11:27:33 Every time you looked at them, they had a problem.
11:27:36 We sold the only parking garage we had that was making
11:27:38 money.
11:27:40 We did a lot of things in that department and then say
11:27:43 you fix yourself.
11:27:44 Well, they have fixed theirself.
11:27:46 I don't want to start again on that one department,
11:27:50 taking away something that they may need in the future.
11:27:53 Have you looked at the city budget that was given to us,
11:27:57 presentation of it last week by Ms. Little, there was
11:28:00 some gloom.
11:28:02 Not too much glow in it.
11:28:03 A lot of us minus five million here, minus three million
11:28:08 here.
11:28:08 So 6500 may be a drop in the bucket.
11:28:11 But not to me.
11:28:11 65 cents to me is not a drop in the bucket because money
11:28:15 is still money.
11:28:17 Taxpayers deserve anybody that got a parking ticket to
11:28:19 pay for it, just like they did.
11:28:21 It's an honorable thing Mr. Maniscalco wants to bring up.
11:28:24 In fact, I'll match Mr. Maniscalco's money if he can't to
11:28:27 give to the poor in any amount he wants.
11:28:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Don't take that bad, Mr. Maniscalco.
11:28:34 Mr. Miranda, anything else?
11:28:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's it.
11:28:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is there any other questions or comments
11:28:38 before we go forward on this?
11:28:40 Ms. Montelione?
11:28:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
11:28:42 I was just, I was trying to write down what was being
11:28:46 proposed.
11:28:46 You're going to propose language for an ordinance and
11:28:49 then we'll have the ability to take a look at it.
11:28:55 And go forward from there.
11:28:57 It's just, I'm thinking where else do we have parking
11:29:00 meters in the city?
11:29:02 It's only downtown.
11:29:03 [Inaudible]
11:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I guess --
11:29:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before you go forward, I have some
11:29:10 questions that I want to ask the legal department.
11:29:14 Is there any other questions before I ask any questions?
11:29:15 Mr. Reddick?
11:29:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: Just one question.
11:29:18 That is, what is the position of the parking division?
11:29:21 Are they supporting this idea?
11:29:25 [Inaudible]
11:29:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: And the legal department has no
11:29:27 objection?
11:29:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We'll ask the legal department.
11:29:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'm sorry.
11:29:33 What is the position of the legal department?
11:29:36 >> The legal department will do whatever --
11:29:42 [ Laughter ]
11:29:45 >>HARRY COHEN: I'd like to know Ms. Little's position.
11:29:49 >> The parameters, I'm not sure.
11:29:50 Staff is not here.
11:30:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: Have you received any feedback from the
11:30:03 finance department?
11:30:04 >> Excuse me?
11:30:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Have you ever received any feedback from
11:30:07 the financial department?
11:30:08 >> No, we haven't.
11:30:09 I can reach out to them.
11:30:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me, I have got a couple questions.
11:30:16 Now, legally, I think Mr. Miranda brought up a point
11:30:20 about when we start something like this, and it's a
11:30:22 temporary thing.
11:30:24 Here's the idea.
11:30:25 How do you write an ordinance to make it temporary?
11:30:28 Obviously that's going to be your job.
11:30:30 We're not going to try and figure that out.
11:30:33 So that is a doable thing to go forward, correct?
11:30:36 >> Yes.
11:30:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Secondly, is one of the questions that he
11:30:39 asked about those folks that get it just before the
11:30:42 program starts, versus those people during that timeframe
11:30:46 that get a ticket.
11:30:49 Has there been any discussion or any thought from what
11:30:51 happened in some of these other municipalities concerning
11:30:54 that particular issue?
11:30:56 >> I'm not sure about the other municipalities but the
11:31:01 parking division had recommended in a couple of meetings
11:31:06 that no tickets be, be able to participate in this
11:31:16 program that were received before the timeframe.
11:31:20 Just the tickets that were received.
11:31:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: During the program timeframe.
11:31:26 >> During the program.
11:31:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is that a month period?
11:31:28 I think, based on what Mr. Maniscalco says, looks like
11:31:33 it's a 30 day period.
11:31:34 >> Yes, sir.
11:31:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So we're talking about a 30 day period,
11:31:38 short-term, it's something we can do in the ordinance.
11:31:41 There seems to be no problem from the parking division
11:31:44 concerning the financial part of it taking out of the
11:31:47 enterprise fund.
11:31:48 If I said anything incorrectly, just make sure that I...
11:31:53 >> I think there was discussion of the 3-dollar maximum
11:31:57 in some of the meetings.
11:32:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Wait.
11:32:01 You showed up just in time.
11:32:03 Don't sit back down.
11:32:04 Come on up here.
11:32:05 I don't know why staff likes to sit all the way in the
11:32:09 back anyway.
11:32:10 We're asking some questions specifically about this
11:32:12 issue.
11:32:13 Yes, ma'am.
11:32:14 Some of the things that Mr. Miranda brought up in terms
11:32:18 of parking division on this limited program, in terms of
11:32:23 your department, do you have any issues with the amount
11:32:27 of money being taken out of your budget by virtue of it,
11:32:31 people being able to pay with food and so on during a
11:32:35 park ticket situation?
11:32:39 >> Department of logistics and asset management.
11:32:41 In terms of money being taken out of the budget, of
11:32:44 course that's going to depend on how many tickets we have
11:32:46 and how much money will be short during that time period.
11:32:50 So that is a possibility that that could be an issue
11:32:54 depending on the amounts of money.
11:32:56 If we're talking only a hundred dollars or so, that's
11:32:59 negligible.
11:33:00 But once we start talking about thousands of dollars,
11:33:03 then yes, that could be an issue for us.
11:33:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
11:33:07 So there may be, and obviously we are now going to be
11:33:11 working on the budget for 2016-2017.
11:33:15 You're not going to know that impact because the program
11:33:18 looks like it's going to start in November and end in mid
11:33:21 December.
11:33:21 So, based on your best guess and based on some of the
11:33:24 information from all these other municipalities, do you
11:33:27 think that it would be a significant drain on your budget
11:33:29 if we put together some independent kind of program
11:33:32 similar to this?
11:33:34 >> To your point, yes, we won't know the exact impact
11:33:37 until next year.
11:33:39 Based on what some of the other municipalities have done,
11:33:42 I don't think it will be that significant.
11:33:44 But again, I can't speak definitively on that till we see
11:33:49 what the numbers are and how many tickets are issued
11:33:51 during that timeframe.
11:33:52 That varies, depending on events, depending on what's
11:33:56 going on downtown.
11:33:58 So, there's a lot of unknowns for us before I can just
11:34:02 give you a definite answer.
11:34:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
11:34:04 Terrific.
11:34:05 I need to ask the legal department something, one last
11:34:08 thing.
11:34:08 I apologize.
11:34:10 Was there any issue, this was during the last discussion
11:34:12 we talked about this, on Council.
11:34:15 Was there any issue with a voucher being signed by the,
11:34:20 by the receiving end of the meeting, feeding Tampa Bay,
11:34:24 for it to be used for a ticket and was this any legal
11:34:28 ramifications or problems with doing this?
11:34:30 >> No, there are not.
11:34:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We can do that, that shouldn't be a
11:34:34 problem.
11:34:35 I believe, Ms. Lattimore, that's no problem with your
11:34:38 department if someone presented a voucher, is that
11:34:40 correct?
11:34:41 >> Yes.
11:34:42 That should not be a problem.
11:34:43 We have not done that before.
11:34:44 We have to work out logistics in terms of how to make
11:34:48 that work but I don't think that should be a problem.
11:34:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The reason I ask that, I give this to the
11:34:53 rest of the Council in terms of my tee idea, which is I
11:34:58 would rather not have food stuffs at our offices to be
11:35:01 picked up.
11:35:02 Even if they're picked up daily.
11:35:04 I would rather it be a voucher program so they go to
11:35:08 feeding Tampa Bay, deliver it and get that voucher.
11:35:11 Only reason I say that because I don't want our employees
11:35:14 to be the recipients of anything that isn't regularly put
11:35:18 together.
11:35:18 And again, that's up to you to put, design and put as
11:35:22 part of your ordinance.
11:35:23 That's just my suggestion.
11:35:25 I would feel more comfortable having a voucher program.
11:35:28 But that's up to you, Ms. Maniscalco.
11:35:30 I'm done with my questions, Ms. Montelione?
11:35:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: People going to feeding Tampa Bay to
11:35:34 get the vouchers served another purpose as well, is that
11:35:38 they're supposed to what feeding Tampa Bay does and what
11:35:40 their mission is and perhaps by visiting the facility to
11:35:44 get the voucher, they might be inspired to continue a
11:35:48 relationship with feeding Tampa Bay.
11:35:50 So I think that also served some of the emphasis of
11:35:55 bringing a highlight to helping those who go hungry in
11:36:00 our community.
11:36:01 And maybe to help Mr. Miranda with some of the numbers.
11:36:08 Mr. Maniscalco, Councilman Maniscalco is going to make a
11:36:11 motion to bring back language and maybe whenever that is
11:36:14 scheduled for our calendar, Ms. Lattimore, you can bring
11:36:20 back typically on average the number of citations that
11:36:24 are, you know, issued tore those 30 days.
11:36:27 So looking back last year, the year before, you know, we
11:36:31 have got historical data.
11:36:33 >> I can do that.
11:36:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So might be able to put a number, an
11:36:37 approximate number on what, you know, the revenue impact
11:36:40 might, or lost revenue impact might have.
11:36:44 >> I can do that, yes, ma'am.
11:36:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
11:36:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions before I go back to
11:36:48 Mr. Maniscalco?
11:36:49 Mr. Miranda?
11:36:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to again say I'm not
11:36:53 against feeding the poor.
11:36:54 I'm not against anything regarding the city already has
11:36:58 an opportunity, I believe once a year they pick up food
11:37:01 through the employees.
11:37:03 We already have that.
11:37:04 What I'm against is going into an enterprise fund that is
11:37:07 supposed to take care of all they're service, to create
11:37:10 the revenue and their expenditure within that fund and
11:37:12 future councils may remember this day and do something
11:37:15 else to your department or any other department now
11:37:17 because this council is cracking the door for that
11:37:20 opportunity to happen.
11:37:21 And if they don't think they'll hit the other funds,
11:37:25 they're wrong.
11:37:26 They'll hit the other three remaining funds, solid waste,
11:37:31 wastewater and water.
11:37:32 Not that we're going to do it but any future council,
11:37:35 once this is done, can set an example for this happening.
11:37:38 It may not be 65 cents or $6,500.
11:37:41 That's what I'm opposed of.
11:37:43 These funds and those enterprises were created for a
11:37:46 reason.
11:37:46 And the reason is, you do your efficiency based on your
11:37:51 revenues.
11:37:51 You only have to spend what you collect.
11:37:55 And that's what I'm opposed of.
11:37:57 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:37:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick?
11:37:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: One last thing.
11:38:00 I'm just wondering, why we're doing this in an ordinance.
11:38:08 And versus, since this is going to be temporary 30 days,
11:38:14 because I'm afraid that when we do an ordinance, this has
11:38:19 to get the signature of the administration, the Mayor.
11:38:22 And you're talking about 30 days.
11:38:27 Have you gotten feedback from the administration, whether
11:38:31 they're in support of this?
11:38:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Nobody beyond the CFO.
11:38:35 Not the Mayor himself.
11:38:36 The CFO said it would be, it wouldn't be significant.
11:38:39 Any loss of revenue on something of this magnitude.
11:38:43 Which is small stature.
11:38:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: If we do it as a resolution, would it
11:38:49 accomplish what you want to do as well?
11:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Either way.
11:38:53 Do we have to put forth an ordinance to amend the parking
11:38:56 code to allow for this method?
11:38:58 Legal heal wouldn't we have to do that regardless?
11:39:01 >> That would be the reason for the ordinance, it would
11:39:05 be to allow an alternative form of payment.
11:39:11 It wouldn't specifically state --
11:39:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Separate resolution would put forth
11:39:18 the specific parameters then.
11:39:20 >> Right.
11:39:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: That answers that question.
11:39:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Hang on.
11:39:24 Too many people talking at once.
11:39:26 Okay, Ms. Hardy, you have something concerning the legal
11:39:31 issue brought up by Mr. Reddick concerning does this have
11:39:35 to be put into an ordinance in order for us to go
11:39:36 forward?
11:39:37 >> Not the fines specifically.
11:39:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do not have to put it into an ordinance
11:39:43 for the fines?
11:39:44 >> Right.
11:39:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:39:45 Apologize, Mr. Maniscalco.
11:39:47 Just want to make sure the legal department got it out.
11:39:49 Mr. Reddick, any other questions or comments currently
11:39:52 before I go back to Mr. Maniscalco?
11:39:54 Ms. Montelione?
11:39:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I guess just is this going to be a
11:39:57 one-time thing or is it going to -- because my opinion on
11:40:02 modifying the ordinance is, correct me if I'm wrong, just
11:40:06 to allow for an alternative form of payment.
11:40:10 It doesn't establish the program.
11:40:12 It doesn't detail out the program.
11:40:15 It just allows for an alternative form of payment.
11:40:18 So, you know, I'm not sure -- I don't remember the last
11:40:23 time I got a parking ticket in the city.
11:40:26 I know I have gotten them in the past.
11:40:28 But, the, there may be other times where that might be
11:40:35 beneficial.
11:40:36 Where we don't have to go back and change the ordinance
11:40:38 for an alternative form of payment.
11:40:40 I mean we right now are having a revolution in where you
11:40:45 can use your mobile phone to pay for things.
11:40:48 So, you know, we accept checks.
11:40:52 We accept debit cards.
11:40:54 But maybe an alternative form of page in the future might
11:40:58 be, you know, whatever they are, Google pay or, you
11:41:03 know, iphone pay or whatever they're calling those
11:41:05 receivables, so it might be beneficial just to have it in
11:41:09 the ordinance so that we can accept other forms of
11:41:11 payment in the future, because the program details itself
11:41:16 aren't going to be in the ordinance.
11:41:17 So I would be in favor of just adding that language for
11:41:21 alternative forms of payment in the ordinance for a much
11:41:25 broader reason, which I think is the unintended
11:41:28 consequence of what you brought up, Mr. Maniscalco.
11:41:32 But it works.
11:41:34 And -- there was something else I was going to say.
11:41:37 If we change it in the ordinance, it's permanent.
11:41:40 We don't have to come back and do something different.
11:41:43 I think Ms. Little is here.
11:41:45 She's been watching us on TV.
11:41:47 >> I just wanted to make one point about the ordinance.
11:41:49 The change of the ordinance would be specifically related
11:41:52 to a section 15-121, penalties for parking violations.
11:42:04 The proposal to amend the ordinance will imply there.
11:42:10 But we could put it in the future, if you want to discuss
11:42:16 it putting in other parts of the code.
11:42:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I just think it would be beneficial.
11:42:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Little, since you are here and you
11:42:25 made the trek all the way from across the way there, if
11:42:29 you could comment on the impact on the budget of this
11:42:34 particular idea.
11:42:36 >> Yes, sir.
11:42:38 We had some discussions internally and also Councilman
11:42:41 Maniscalco and I also had some discussions.
11:42:44 When we presented the mid year, we did present the
11:42:48 information on the parking system and that revenues did
11:42:51 come in greater than budgeted for FY16 that we're
11:42:56 projecting because of increases in our parking receipts
11:43:00 due to the playoffs.
11:43:01 And, but moving forward, we do have capital needs that
11:43:07 have been deferred within the parking system.
11:43:09 That those revenues will be used for moving as we plan
11:43:13 out FY16.
11:43:14 I believe, and I may have messed up a bit of this in
11:43:18 coming over.
11:43:20 I believe in our discussions, Councilman, we were talking
11:43:24 about an estimated $6,000?
11:43:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: That was using Lexington, Kentucky's
11:43:30 number.
11:43:31 May not even be that high.
11:43:33 That's just using that.
11:43:34 >> I think using that, but the question was could it be
11:43:38 absorbed?
11:43:39 Yes, it can be absorbed to Councilman Miranda's point, it
11:43:43 is an enterprise fund, where revenues are used to operate
11:43:47 the system.
11:43:48 So if it's Council's request that we move forward, at
11:43:51 those levels, of course those monies can be used within
11:43:54 the system.
11:43:55 We can use avenue penny in the system.
11:43:58 Beyond is that, I start to get very, very concerned and
11:44:01 the concern about it is that we really don't know how
11:44:04 much, but if we're talking in the range of 6,000, so I
11:44:07 really can't tell you really the impact because we done
11:44:10 know if a hundred percent of the folks are going to come
11:44:13 in.
11:44:15 So if it's in that area, the system can absorb it if
11:44:19 Council wants to move forward with it.
11:44:21 But again, keep in mind it is an enterprise fund where we
11:44:25 use every penny to run the system.
11:44:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:44:28 Any other questions of staff concerning this issue?
11:44:31 If not, Mr. Maniscalco, do you want to make a motion
11:44:35 concerning a resolution for the legal department to come
11:44:37 back?
11:44:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: First I'll do an ordinance to amend
11:44:41 the parking code.
11:44:45 For the specific tile period, if it's possible to do
11:44:48 between November 14th, 2016 and December -- to
11:44:52 December 16, 2016, to allow an alternative form of
11:44:56 payment for parking citations, which would be canned
11:45:00 goods in this case or the option of having a voucher
11:45:04 should folks want to go directly to feeding Tampa Bay.
11:45:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Now you're asking the legal department to
11:45:08 come back with a draft of an ordinance?
11:45:11 >> Yes.
11:45:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:45:13 Do I have a second?
11:45:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: Second, just having the legal
11:45:19 department.
11:45:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Come back with the ordinance.
11:45:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'll second it.
11:45:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Maniscalco, second from
11:45:23 Mr. Reddick.
11:45:24 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
11:45:26 aye.
11:45:26 Any opposed?
11:45:31 >>Miranda voting no.
11:45:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Now, Mr. Maniscalco, do you need to do a
11:45:39 resolution?
11:45:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Yes, sure.
11:45:41 So, I move that a resolution be drafted for these
11:45:46 specific parameters of this program, which would be one
11:45:51 dollar per canned food item.
11:45:54 And a maximum credit of $150 applied to a current parking
11:45:59 ticket that would fall within November 14th, 2016 to
11:46:03 December 16, 2016.
11:46:04 This would be limited to street parking here in the
11:46:09 downtown area.
11:46:10 We would also allow for the voucher from a feeding Tampa
11:46:14 Bay to be applied at the $15 maximum credit.
11:46:19 If not, give folks the option of dropping off the canned
11:46:24 food items at the parking division, whereas feeding Tampa
11:46:28 Bay would be responsible for the pickup, which they would
11:46:31 do on a weekly basis at no cost to the city.
11:46:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Now we have a motion from Mr. Maniscalco
11:46:36 for that resolution.
11:46:37 That also is being drafted by the legal department.
11:46:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Yes.
11:46:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do I have a second on that resolution?
11:46:42 I have a motion from Mr. Maniscalco, I have a second from
11:46:47 Ms. Montelione.
11:46:48 Before we go forward, clerk, do you have all that down?
11:46:51 Okay.
11:46:51 And Mr. Maniscalco, I'd ask you to maybe get it, put it
11:46:55 in writing so the clerk has it and the legal department.
11:46:59 So those parameters are brought back to us exactly as you
11:47:02 stated.
11:47:02 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
11:47:04 aye.
11:47:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Did we approved the date.
11:47:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I don't think we approved a date.
11:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: If we could come back to regular
11:47:12 Council meeting August 14th.
11:47:13 Under staff reports.
11:47:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So we have our motion.
11:47:17 We have our seconds.
11:47:18 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
11:47:19 aye.
11:47:20 Any opposed?
11:47:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Aye.
11:47:25 >>THE CLERK: Miranda voting no.
11:47:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Clerk, just for procedural matter, the
11:47:29 first vote was that also already put down as August 4th?
11:47:33 >>THE CLERK: Yes.
11:47:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If the maker of the motion, is that
11:47:35 amenable to you to have it come back at the same time?
11:47:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Yes, August 4th, same time for vote.
11:47:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do we need to make that in a motion.
11:47:44 We have that under -- okay.
11:47:47 Terrific.
11:47:47 Thank you.
11:47:48 Thank you very much for appearing.
11:47:49 Before we go to our last item, number 96, we have items
11:47:53 that have been moved and asked to be continued.
11:47:56 Item number 7, I need a motioning to continue this to
11:47:59 July 14th.
11:48:00 >> So moved.
11:48:01 >> Second.
11:48:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, I have a second
11:48:03 from Ms. Montelione to move that to July 14th under staff
11:48:06 reports.
11:48:07 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
11:48:08 aye.
11:48:08 Any opposed?
11:48:11 Thank you.
11:48:12 Item 98 has already been re-- excuse me, needs to be
11:48:16 removed from the agenda.
11:48:18 If I could have a motion to that effect.
11:48:21 Motion from Mr. Maniscalco, second from Mr. Miranda.
11:48:24 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
11:48:27 aye.
11:48:27 And the last item is item number 99.
11:48:30 That also has been requested to be moved to August 4th.
11:48:33 >> So moved.
11:48:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Reddick, do I have a
11:48:37 second?
11:48:38 I have a second from Ms. Montelione.
11:48:40 To move that to August 4th under staff reports.
11:48:43 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
11:48:49 aye.
11:48:49 Thank you.
11:48:51 Last item up is item nuke 96.
11:48:54 Staff?
11:48:57 >> Gloria Moreda, land development.
11:48:58 I have not prepared anything for this item.
11:49:01 I wanted to discuss it with Council and get a better
11:49:05 clarification what pop-up zoning was.
11:49:08 I know that probably about a month ago, Councilmember
11:49:13 Montelione and I had a discussion when the central
11:49:16 business district regulations were coming up.
11:49:18 And I'm assuming it was following that that the motion
11:49:22 was made.
11:49:23 I wanted clarification as to exactly what you meant by
11:49:28 pop-up zoning.
11:49:29 I'm assuming it's really a pop-up business use.
11:49:33 That you don't anticipate commercial zoning appearing in
11:49:38 a residential area.
11:49:39 For brief period of time.
11:49:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well...
11:49:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Go ahead.
11:49:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
11:49:47 It I wouldn't be permanently, I mean just the idea of pop
11:49:51 up, it wouldn't be permanently changing the zoning for a
11:49:55 business.
11:49:55 But it would allow for, you know, an outside the norm of
11:50:04 what that zoning category would allow.
11:50:08 >> In any zoning district?
11:50:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: In any zoning district.
11:50:12 I mean --
11:50:14 >> So you are saying that you would like a commercial --
11:50:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm saying any zoning district
11:50:19 Ms. Moreda because I try to get things simple and not
11:50:23 complicate things by saying well, you know, come up with
11:50:27 this complex matrix of where you can do this, where you
11:50:31 can't do this.
11:50:32 Mine at your suggestion, and you're the professional,
11:50:34 that they would be certain zoning districts that it would
11:50:38 make sense and it wouldn't overcome my indicate things.
11:50:42 Then you know, I would be open to that.
11:50:44 I think conversations with the downtown partnership or
11:50:48 some of the Channel District folks would be helpful, or
11:50:53 the, I think they changed their name recently.
11:50:57 The southeast Seminole Heights business guild.
11:51:00 I know they changed the name but can't remember what they
11:51:03 changed it to.
11:51:03 To talk to them, because this really comes out of ideas
11:51:08 that each of thoughts groups either individually or
11:51:11 collectively have come to me and asked for.
11:51:13 >> I mean, I have researched online the notion of pop-up
11:51:22 retail shops, pop-up cafes.
11:51:26 And for example, in a commercial district, CG zoning, all
11:51:31 those uses, retail, restaurants, all permitted uses,
11:51:36 okay, so, the concept of a pop-up shop going in a CG
11:51:44 district, for instance, is really not necessary in terms
11:51:47 of the zoning types amendments.
11:51:50 Retail's a permitted use.
11:51:52 I think what you're indicating is that for a period of
11:51:54 time that they are not required to meet parking
11:51:59 requirements, for instance, if it is an increase in
11:52:02 intensity of use.
11:52:03 I think I would like an indication to a direction as to
11:52:07 the length of time you feel these uses could be on the
11:52:11 property.
11:52:13 And the intensity that you perceive these uses.
11:52:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, the general nature of pop-up, 30
11:52:19 days or less.
11:52:20 Some are only for one night.
11:52:22 Some of them are for a week.
11:52:23 I mean, they're very, very short and hence, the idea of
11:52:27 pop up.
11:52:29 And you know, there are folks who are, you know,
11:52:34 either -- like the same concept with food trucks.
11:52:37 You know, somebody can't afford a brick and mortar
11:52:41 restaurants starts with a food truck and then blossoms
11:52:44 into a business.
11:52:44 If someone wants to test out a concept and see if they
11:52:48 gain traction for this new business.
11:52:51 >> Is there a size limitation you would perceive?
11:52:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I think all those details could be
11:52:56 worked out either, you know, behind the scenes or in
11:53:00 talking with the business, the business community.
11:53:05 And to find out what it is that they would like to see.
11:53:09 >> The only other thing that I wanted to say and I have
11:53:13 Mr. Snelling here representing the construction side of
11:53:15 the world.
11:53:17 But you know, zoning is one code.
11:53:19 We also have building code and fire codes that present
11:53:24 life safety issues.
11:53:25 Zoning doesn't trump them.
11:53:26 So all these code provisions when you are going into a
11:53:32 vacant building, are required to meet those code
11:53:35 requirements.
11:53:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I mean we had the state of the
11:53:39 city address in building in Tampa Heights that wasn't yet
11:53:45 completed.
11:53:47 When the RNC was here, they had parties in some of the
11:53:52 historic buildings, the Kress building I think downtown,
11:53:56 they had to go through a lot to get it up to that
11:53:59 standard.
11:53:59 But they were only there for, you know, a week or two.
11:54:02 So, you know, maybe it's also some, it would require some
11:54:07 kind of expedient permitting, you know, accelerated
11:54:12 process.
11:54:13 Because they're only going to be there for a week.
11:54:15 You don't want, you know, this entrepreneur to take three
11:54:21 or four months to get a permit to operate that's only
11:54:26 going to be for a day.
11:54:27 So, you know, I want to take a look at the burdensome
11:54:34 nature of the process.
11:54:37 >>THOM SNELLING: The notion of an expedited process to
11:54:42 agrees these kinds of things, we could certainly look at
11:54:45 that and see where that takes us.
11:54:47 In each of those examples you gave, Councilwoman, at the
11:54:50 state of the union address there was a fire watch, so
11:54:53 they went in and --
11:54:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: State of the union?
11:54:56 State of the city.
11:54:58 >> State of the city, I'm sorry.
11:55:02 The Kress building was the same thing.
11:55:06 Kress building when those buildings was used for the RNC,
11:55:10 they had fire watches.
11:55:11 They went in and did a lot of work prior to that, to meet
11:55:14 the fire safety codes, meet the building safety codes.
11:55:17 So they did still have to meeting all those codes.
11:55:21 None of those codes were waived.
11:55:22 I really see -- the fire safety code and the Florida
11:55:28 building code, is the entire state.
11:55:30 It is not a whole thing.
11:55:32 None of those kinds of things are waivable.
11:55:34 Looking at that kind of stuff, it may be both beneficial
11:55:38 or most desirable to look at them more expedited process.
11:55:43 That's certainly within the realm.
11:55:45 I will say I do have professional reservation about
11:55:49 allowing a commercial use to pop up into an RS-100
11:55:53 neighborhood.
11:55:54 Or RS-60 neighborhood.
11:55:58 You have nothing but a single-family suburban kind of
11:56:01 look, like in Beach Park or sunset park or some of those
11:56:04 areas.
11:56:04 And someone says I want to try this concept and my friend
11:56:07 is, he's away, he's in France, you know, for a month.
11:56:12 I'll just go into his house and use his kitchen and open
11:56:15 up a restaurant and see what happens.
11:56:17 That's like a real slippery slope if you have that kind
11:56:20 of thing.
11:56:21 It's like everything, our code book didn't go from eight
11:56:24 and a half by five, 40 page document to be something
11:56:30 where it's huge, because everybody was so magnanimous and
11:56:34 always conscientious of his neighbors.
11:56:36 It was because exactly opposite to that because people
11:56:39 hey, I can do this, so I would say to look at this very
11:56:45 thoroughly and to be very cautious.
11:56:48 We did talk to Mr. Barrios and he would be here, he's got
11:56:51 a personal issue he has to deal with today.
11:56:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm sorry to hear that.
11:56:57 >> Yeah.
11:56:58 Thank you.
11:56:59 And we also, I also had a certification with Jay trainer,
11:57:02 new fire marshal over at construction service.
11:57:05 And Jay was going through his list.
11:57:07 But there are self folks who will have to sit down, the
11:57:10 guilds and the business folks that you talk to, you
11:57:13 probably would also have to broaden this out to the
11:57:16 other, [Inaudible] those kind of neighborhoods, they're
11:57:23 going to opine.
11:57:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And that's if we go the residential
11:57:26 route.
11:57:27 It may just be industrial, commercial, retail, retail
11:57:30 office, that kind of thing.
11:57:32 >> It's like what I said --
11:57:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mr. Snelling, we're not reinvent the
11:57:36 wheel.
11:57:36 They do this in a lot of other cities.
11:57:38 So we could probably lift language from other cities.
11:57:42 >>THOM SNELLING: Gloria has been online and found
11:57:44 different examples of temporary use.
11:57:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: How much time do you think you need to
11:57:47 come back with something?
11:57:50 >> Three and a half years.
11:57:51 [ Laughter ]
11:57:51 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is that the date of your retirement,
11:57:54 sir?
11:57:57 >> Well, July 15th is the -- no, what I'm saying is July
11:58:01 15th is the next cutoff for text amendments for the
11:58:06 zoning code.
11:58:07 So I would say if you're wanting us to amend the code,
11:58:11 you know, we would, could probably try to work in that
11:58:15 next cycle for text amendments.
11:58:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That seems kind of quick.
11:58:20 >> I won't have the language done by then.
11:58:22 But I don't believe that Ms. Coyle will have much of the
11:58:27 language done there.
11:58:29 >>THOM SNELLING: Right now, Cathy who would be the author
11:58:31 of this, you know, we could supply her with the
11:58:34 information but she still would --
11:58:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So what's the next cycle?
11:58:39 >> January.
11:58:39 We can bring back a report back to see what we think the
11:58:43 parameters.
11:58:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's after November.
11:58:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's what I was just thinking.
11:58:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: May I make a suggestion, Ms. Montelione?
11:58:50 Maybe if you do make a motion for them to come back to
11:58:54 narrow it to the central business district and
11:58:57 Channelside so we can see about doing it there.
11:58:59 Because you made very good examples of the Kress
11:59:01 building, some other things we've done here locally.
11:59:03 And then secondly, to give them that timeframe that they
11:59:07 look at some of those other great experiments that have
11:59:10 been done with other cities and which pop-ups have been
11:59:13 very successful.
11:59:15 That's my suggestion to you.
11:59:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I mean we could -- downtown,
11:59:19 Channelside.
11:59:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ybor City.
11:59:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Ybor City, Seminole Heights.
11:59:25 How about those four?
11:59:26 Seminole Heights is a hot happening place.
11:59:29 >> If you limited it to the commercial zone, commercial
11:59:37 areas.
11:59:38 Gloria and I were talking, the allowable uses in Channel
11:59:42 District, central business, Ybor City, are pretty broad.
11:59:45 You can contemplate probably not any big zoning.
11:59:53 Seminole Heights might be a little dicier.
11:59:54 As you know, you have a commercial strip --
11:59:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Bill liked that you referred to them
11:59:58 as a little dicier.
12:00:00 >> Not them.
12:00:00 The process.
12:00:01 Because as you know, they have the commercial strips on
12:00:04 those, or commercial immediately backed by residential.
12:00:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If anyone was going to do something,
12:00:12 it would be in those edgy neighborhoods like Seminole
12:00:15 Heights and Channelside.
12:00:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Excuse me.
12:00:17 Before I ask for more time, Ms. Montelione, do you want
12:00:19 to bring this in for a landing?
12:00:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
12:00:22 I think we have discussed they have parameters now is
12:00:25 what they were asking for.
12:00:26 We have input from other Councilmembers.
12:00:28 If you think you can bring back something like that for
12:00:31 this July 15th cycle, since we limited it, that would be
12:00:37 my request.
12:00:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: When do you want it back?
12:00:41 July 14th or oust that?
12:00:44 >> It wouldn't come back until you, miss Coyle comes and
12:00:49 schedules the workshop for that cycle.
12:00:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do you want to make it during our next
12:00:54 workshop session, which would be, it will be a while from
12:00:59 now.
12:00:59 Will be September.
12:01:00 22nd.
12:01:02 Is that your motion, Ms. Montelione?
12:01:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
12:01:05 That's fine.
12:01:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion, if we could have it
12:01:09 restated before we have the vote.
12:01:11 Ms. Montelione, I think you could restate that really
12:01:13 quick.
12:01:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Certainly.
12:01:15 I would ask that Land Development Coordination and
12:01:17 construction services come back on, with a workshop
12:01:24 September 22nd at 9:00 a.m. to explore language for
12:01:30 the July text amendment cycle.
12:01:33 >> If you can include planning and urban design in that.
12:01:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Certainly.
12:01:42 I think we have got planning and urban design, with a,
12:01:48 with language to establish pop-up zoning and an expedited
12:01:55 permitting process.
12:01:56 In four neighborhoods.
12:02:00 Channelside, downtown, Ybor City and Seminole Heights.
12:02:05 >> Second.
12:02:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Ms. Montelione,
12:02:08 second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:02:09 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:02:10 aye.
12:02:11 Any opposed?
12:02:12 Thank you, sir.
12:02:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And it goes without saying that you'll
12:02:16 work with those.
12:02:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could get a motion for five
12:02:19 additional minutes.
12:02:21 Motion from Mr. Reddick, second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:02:24 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:02:26 aye.
12:02:27 Any opposed? Information reports and new business by
12:02:30 councilmembers.
12:02:30 Mr. Miranda?
12:02:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
12:02:33 I have three of them.
12:02:34 First let me clarify the motion made on 6-16 by myself,
12:02:37 second by Mr. Cohen.
12:02:38 I'm not talking about signs that are billboards on the
12:02:41 highway.
12:02:42 I'm talking about monument signs in or around the
12:02:45 neighborhoods that have electronic signs, billboards,
12:02:50 look like a billboard but it's a miniature things,
12:02:54 sometimes 40, 50, 60, 70 square feet.
12:02:58 Those are the ones I'm mentioning.
12:03:00 And that's, I had asked that on that motion.
12:03:04 Legal department requested appear before Council August
12:03:06 the 4th under staff reports, appear, what I'm saying it
12:03:11 is not billboards.
12:03:12 It is monument signs that are on private businesses such
12:03:16 as bars, hospitals, lawyers, whatever.
12:03:20 Once you have one, you have another one.
12:03:23 Every five minutes, they move every 15, 20 seconds.
12:03:27 That's what I made on that motion.
12:03:29 I appreciate make the changes that I just mentioned.
12:03:31 >>MICHAEL SUAREZ: So it's a motion to amend from the
12:03:33 original motion.
12:03:33 Do I have a second?
12:03:35 Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:03:38 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:03:40 aye.
12:03:40 Anything else?
12:03:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second, I have two more.
12:03:43 Motion to give commendation to Hattie Wilson for 33 years
12:03:47 of service in the parking division.
12:03:49 I'll be doing that commendation to her directly during
12:03:52 our period of vacation.
12:03:53 >> Second.
12:03:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
12:03:55 Mr. Maniscalco.
12:03:56 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:03:58 aye.
12:03:58 Any opposed?
12:04:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Third is the Tampa City Council
12:04:03 present commendation to Frank Rey dance studio for
12:04:07 celebrating 60th anniversary to be presented at their
12:04:09 event on June 25th with special recognition at
12:04:12 July 14th Council meeting.
12:04:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Miranda, second from
12:04:16 Mr. Maniscalco.
12:04:17 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:04:19 aye.
12:04:19 Any opposed?
12:04:20 Anything else?
12:04:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's it.
12:04:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick?
12:04:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: One item, Mr. Chair.
12:04:25 I want to ask someone from contracting administration to
12:04:28 appear before Council on a staff report on July 14th to
12:04:33 give us updated report on the contract with the vendor
12:04:38 pertaining to the red light cameras.
12:04:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
12:04:41 We have motion from Mr. Reddick, second from
12:04:43 Mr. Maniscalco.
12:04:44 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:04:45 aye.
12:04:46 Any opposed?
12:04:47 Anything else, sir?
12:04:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's it.
12:04:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Maniscalco?
12:04:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: No, sir.
12:04:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Montelione?
12:04:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
12:04:54 Back I believe it was 2011, for the purposes of
12:04:58 accountability and transparency, I had asked Council to
12:05:01 agree and they did, to have all items over a million
12:05:04 dollars come to Council as staff reports instead of being
12:05:08 grouped with consent agenda items.
12:05:10 Which is why we have these contracts coming to Council as
12:05:13 we did this morning.
12:05:14 So at this time, I would like to change the threshold
12:05:19 from one million to $3 million.
12:05:21 So anything over $3 million would be considered as a
12:05:25 staff report.
12:05:26 Anything under $3 million would be go on the consent
12:05:29 agenda.
12:05:30 >> Sec.
12:05:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Ms. Montelione,
12:05:32 second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:05:34 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:05:35 aye.
12:05:35 Any opposed?
12:05:37 Anything else, ma'am.
12:05:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, sir, that's it.
12:05:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before we go forward, I just wanted to
12:05:41 thank my colleagues, Ms. Montelione, Mr. Maniscalco and
12:05:45 Mr. Cohen, for being on the MPO and being until, after
12:05:49 3:00 a.m.
12:05:50 I think when most of you got home during public comment,
12:05:53 I think it is admirable.
12:05:57 We do not get paid a lot of money but you earned every
12:05:58 cent last night.
12:05:59 And I appreciate what you're doing.
12:06:01 We're going to have hopefully a good and safe, everyone
12:06:03 have a good and safe fourth of July in a couple weeks.
12:06:06 Need a motion to receive and file documents.
12:06:08 Motion from Ms. Montelione, second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:06:11 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying
12:06:12 aye.
12:06:12 Any opposed?
12:06:15 And any general public comment?
12:06:17 Anyone in the public like to come forward at this moment
12:06:20 to speak?
12:06:21 I see no one.
12:06:22 We are adjourned until 5:30 p.m.
12:06:23
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