Tampa City Council
Thursday, July 14, 2016
9:00 a.m. session
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09:02:11 [Sounding gavel]
09:04:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Tampa City Council is called to order.
09:04:21 The chair yields to Councilman Harry Cohen.
09:04:24 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Councilman Suarez.
09:04:26 I would like to introduce our clerk, Shirley Foxx-Knowles,
09:04:30 who is going to give us our invocation this morning.
09:04:33 We are going to rise for that as well as for the pledge of
09:04:37 allegiance.
09:04:38 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Thank you, Councilman Cohen.
09:04:44 Good morning, honorable council and everyone.
09:04:47 Let us pray.
09:04:49 Dear heavenly father.
09:04:51 Thank you once again for another beautiful, beautiful day
09:04:55 here in the City of Tampa.
09:04:57 Thank you for the opportunity to live and serve in our great
09:05:02 city.
09:05:03 Thank you for your grace and your mercy.
09:05:05 And for all the wonderful gifts you have provided.
09:05:10 You have been so good to us, and we are truly thankful.
09:05:14 Let us remember to pray it forward and show our gratitude by
09:05:18 being kind to one another.
09:05:20 Father, help us to understand that it's only by serving
09:05:23 others in your name that we find love, peace and joy.
09:05:30 Father, on this day, we thank you for all those assembled
09:05:34 here for today's meeting.
09:05:36 We celebrate you this day and for all the days you have
09:05:39 given us.
09:05:40 We will be forever grateful for your love for us.
09:05:44 May we remember that we are all your children and that you
09:05:48 love us unconditionally.
09:05:51 May we continue to work towards being shining examples of
09:05:55 your love.
09:06:01 Make us instruments of your will.
09:06:04 Bless our great country where we are free because of others
09:06:08 that have given so much.
09:06:09 Father, please especially watch over those serving on the
09:06:13 front lines to keep us safe, keep us all in your care.
09:06:19 Thank you, father, for more than we can say.
09:06:22 These things we ask and things thanks we give with humble
09:06:27 heart.
09:06:28 Let us all say amen.
09:06:29 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]
09:06:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Roll call, please.
09:06:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:06:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:06:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:06:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:06:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
09:07:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:07:04 Our first order of business is the addendum to the agenda.
09:07:13 All in favor?
09:07:14 Any opposed?
09:07:15 Before we go on, I do have a memo here from Catherine Coyle
09:07:19 concerning item number 7 had for today's agenda.
09:07:22 She is not going to be here.
09:07:24 She's not going to be able to present and Mr. Snelling
09:07:28 contacted us earlier this morning because she is sick as a
09:07:31 dog, as they say, so she won't be able to be here. So I
09:07:34 would like us to get a motion to move that from the agenda.
09:07:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: We can remove it but We reschedule it?
09:07:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you know the time and date you want it,
09:07:45 sure.
09:07:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
09:07:56 Which would be the next regular meeting.
09:07:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: August 4.
09:08:01 Under staff reports.
09:08:02 We have a motion by Mrs. Capin.
09:08:04 Second from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:08:06 All in favor of that motion indicate by saying aye.
09:08:08 Any opposed?
09:08:09 Thank you.
09:08:10 Item number 1 is a special recognition to. Do the honors is
09:08:15 Councilman Charlie Miranda.
09:08:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Good morning, honorable members of Tampa
09:08:34 City Council.
09:08:35 It's my pleasure this morning to be here to make a
09:08:37 commendation presentation to the Frank Ray dance studio for
09:08:50 60 years.
09:08:52 Frank Ray was, the children that have gone there and
09:08:56 dedication, the faculty, all the students and the faculty
09:09:00 that are associated with this fine, fine operation have gone
09:09:06 on, and a lot of them have become American Bali, have worked
09:09:11 there, have worked for the southwest ballet center,
09:09:15 International dance center, and all these young individuals
09:09:18 have done very well.
09:09:19 In fact, today is the current owner of the Frank Ray dance
09:09:25 studio, and I have known her for -- she was a little thing.
09:09:31 And I have known her father and her whole family.
09:09:34 And she's a fine person.
09:09:42 In fact her father had a nickname.
09:09:44 Should I say it?
09:09:46 Red eye.
09:09:48 Remember that?
09:09:48 >> Yes.
09:09:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And he had a horse.
09:09:51 He's the only guy that advertised his business -- true
09:09:56 story, now -- and the directory of the phone company.
09:09:59 And red eye with a horse.
09:10:02 And it wasn't -- he was very successful in inventing a new
09:10:08 way of advertising.
09:10:10 And whether a group of young people, in fact the other young
09:10:13 lady here, her father and I go back about 110 years.
09:10:20 And he's the one that called me and I never played with the
09:10:29 Cubans, but I gave up a whole month for the Cubans.
09:10:34 >> The way I heard that story is my father did call that
09:10:39 pitch, but he just didn't get it right.
09:10:41 (Laughter).
09:10:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Oh, I got it in the right place all
09:10:44 right.
09:10:45 Over center field wall.
09:10:47 But it's an honor to be here to make this presentation.
09:10:50 Because he's a fine, fine individual.
09:10:54 All within the community.
09:10:55 You know, people that go to dance schools and that do art
09:10:58 become much better citizens.
09:11:02 Therefore my downfall.
09:11:04 It's my pleasure to present this to you, and to say a few
09:11:10 words.
09:11:10 60 years.
09:11:11 And I notch you as a business person.
09:11:13 You're kind hearted, a wonderful individual, the whole
09:11:16 family.
09:11:20 Future dancers maybe, up there in New York and Washington,
09:11:23 D.C., they have got a great program there, also.
09:11:30 [ Applause ]
09:11:30 >> Thank you, Councilman Miranda.
09:11:37 And thanks to the rest of you as well.
09:11:41 I humbly accept this and appreciate it, and do so on behalf
09:11:47 of Mr. Frank Ray himself.
09:11:50 He is the one that high pressure the vision 60 years ago to
09:11:53 start a studio when there may have been only a couple in
09:11:58 town at the time, and his legacy, the way he enhanced the
09:12:06 cultural environment here in Tampa, really set Tampa path
09:12:11 for Tampa's cultural astuteness that we enjoy today.
09:12:17 So really the credit goes to him.
09:12:20 I'm happy to, along with Stephani and some of our other
09:12:25 supporters that are here today, I'm happy to represent them.
09:12:31 Yes, we teach dance, but we like to say that we also teach
09:12:35 life skills.
09:12:37 So with that, I once again thank you so much for this honor.
09:12:41 And we truly and humbly appreciate it.
09:12:44 Thank you.
09:12:45 [ Applause ]
09:12:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much for appearing before
09:12:54 council.
09:12:54 And she has a wonderful family except for her husband.
09:13:01 Thanks for helping out at frank Ray dance studio, and a
09:13:05 great business, and it's going to continue to be strong.
09:13:08 Next up is our public comment.
09:13:09 These are for those items that are not set for public
09:13:12 hearing.
09:13:13 Anyone that would like to come up and speak before council
09:13:17 may do so at this time.
09:13:19 Again, anything not set for public hearing please come up.
09:13:27 >> Joe Robinson.
09:14:11 If you look at the overhead, I'm here to speak on item 4 and
09:14:14 item 73.
09:14:16 And I will speak to the item on the overhead in a minute.
09:14:20 If you go back to item 4, first I am here to talk about the
09:14:23 agreement with the strategic partners with than the Vinik
09:14:26 project.
09:14:26 Being a mechanical engineer, you know how hot it is outside.
09:14:30 This is a great deal for the City of Tampa.
09:14:32 They have a franchise much like the franchise for the Tampa
09:14:37 Housing Authority.
09:14:38 They need this because the city does not regulate to chill
09:14:44 water but they need to provide chill water.
09:14:47 It's a revenue generator for the City of Tampa.
09:14:50 You have some good terms in there equal to what TECO is
09:14:55 paying, and it has escalation rates in the future.
09:14:58 So I am here to stand let's do that.
09:15:01 Otherwise the product will have all this equipment and
09:15:06 cooling towers and it will not be aesthetic. This makes
09:15:09 more sense.
09:15:09 This is a good engineering way tore do it.
09:15:12 It's as a mechanical professor said, I had to say that and I
09:15:18 want to make sure that Channelside goes forward.
09:15:20 We don't want any excuse for failure.
09:15:22 Now, the other thing is item 73.
09:15:29 Now look at the overhead, if you would.
09:15:31 On the overhead, the federal government, Hillsborough
09:15:36 County, City of Tampa, all good faith effort.
09:15:44 Mrs. Montelione, thanks very much for staying on this, okay?
09:15:48 Good faith efforts may work.
09:15:49 But good faith efforts don't put money in people's pockets.
09:15:52 It's a way to say, yeah, we are going to do something,
09:15:57 there's no guarantee.
09:15:58 As a matter of fact, when I called the city yesterday, a
09:16:06 good faith effort that you are using with engineers and
09:16:10 architect.
09:16:11 But we don't do it.
09:16:12 The City Council, all of these year, we don't have a good
09:16:15 faith effort to engineers, architects,.
09:16:22 You don't have that H.city of Tampa does not have a good
09:16:25 faith effort for CCNA, the negotiations act, like they do
09:16:31 for contractors and subs.
09:16:33 That's a problem.
09:16:34 That is an issue.
09:16:35 They got draftsmen telling me they need to get the draft and
09:16:41 they'll get it done when they get time.
09:16:44 When is the time?
09:16:44 The time is now.
09:16:45 The moment is now.
09:16:47 Good faith efforts don't work.
09:16:50 And if you don't have them at all, engineers like myself
09:16:53 aren't getting any opportunities, and companies are not
09:16:55 responding to e-mails, because the city has a flaw in the
09:16:59 process.
09:16:59 Please take care of this problem and let's make sure the
09:17:02 businesses get opportunities for this billion dollar
09:17:05 corporate growth going on in Tampa.
09:17:07 Thank you.
09:17:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Next, please.
09:17:10 >> Good morning, council.
09:17:18 Rick Fernandez, 2906 north he will more Avenue, Tampa 33602.
09:17:24 That's in Tampa Heights.
09:17:25 I'm the president of the Tampa Heights Civic Association.
09:17:29 On your agenda, doing a little bit of a deep dive here,
09:17:34 relates to agenda item number 464.
09:17:36 It has -- it here today to schedule a hearing, date and time
09:17:41 on a petition for review that has been filed by Sarah roam
09:17:44 your regarding a special use at 2015 north Central Avenue.
09:17:50 She's seeking an adult congregate living facility to be
09:17:53 installed at that location.
09:17:56 The proposed date and time by the clerk's office is August
09:18:00 25 at 10:30 a.m.
09:18:04 We are requesting consideration by council to reschedule
09:18:10 that time.
09:18:11 I don't care so much about the day as I do about the time.
09:18:15 To have the schedule for a time after normal working hours
09:18:18 so the community would be able to actually attend.
09:18:21 You may recall there's some history behind that that Romeo
09:18:27 attempted --
09:18:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'm sorry, I ask you not to get into the
09:18:32 merits of it but your request he would with appropriate but
09:18:34 not talk about the specific facts.
09:18:35 >> Okay.
09:18:37 In any event, not getting into the merits, we do have some
09:18:40 history here that would suggest that the community will show
09:18:43 up in large numbers around this issue, and I frankly would
09:18:48 like to give them an opportunity to do that.
09:18:50 So while I know everyone's time here is very valuable today,
09:18:54 if there would be a way to advance this item on the agenda
09:18:57 to actually consider a different date and time for this
09:19:01 particular matter, we would appreciate it very much.
09:19:06 I don't have anything further although I think there's
09:19:09 someone behind me to come up and speak to the issue as well.
09:19:12 Thank you.
09:19:12 >> Kevin Klahr, 502 east Ross Avenue.
09:19:20 I would like to speak about item number 64 on the agenda
09:19:22 also.
09:19:23 I live directly across the street from the property in
09:19:26 question.
09:19:28 And before --
09:19:32 >> Hold on.
09:19:36 That's a hearing.
09:19:36 >> I would like to also request that the time be changed to
09:19:39 allow for evening input from the community.
09:19:43 Thank you.
09:19:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
09:19:45 Next, please.
09:19:46 >> Mickey Jacob, Harbor Island.
09:19:59 I'm here to speak about agenda item number 4, and to jump on
09:20:08 the theme that Councilman Miranda started this morning, this
09:20:11 is a home run for our community.
09:20:13 You have been presented with the technical aspects,
09:20:16 financial aspects, financial aspects of this particular
09:20:20 project.
09:20:21 The benefits are for the development that's being done
09:20:24 around the arena.
09:20:25 I'm here to speak about perception.
09:20:27 Perception benefits to the community to what we are to the
09:20:30 city, and how this is going affect the quality of life.
09:20:35 As an architect I think this is an incredibly important
09:20:40 installation for our city.
09:20:41 It showcases a new vision that we have that we are a forward
09:20:44 thinking city.
09:20:45 They are really looking at new aspects of how we think about
09:20:50 the best way to develop our property within the urban core.
09:20:55 This will make that happen.
09:20:57 It will allow us to do incredibly great design in this
09:21:00 community.
09:21:00 It supports the sustainability aspects that we all talked
09:21:03 about that's so important to our community.
09:21:05 And just for the wellness aspect of the residents that will
09:21:08 live there and how it affects downtown, it will be something
09:21:12 that I think will be looked at from other aspects in terms
09:21:15 of other communities looking at us as to how we are doing
09:21:19 things, businesses that we are trying to recruit here and
09:21:21 people that want to live there.
09:21:23 As an architect it's incredibly exciting.
09:21:26 As a business owner in downtown Tampa, this makes my
09:21:29 neighborhood much better.
09:21:31 It allows for people to come down and actually live in the
09:21:34 area that we are going to work in, and, quite honestly, as a
09:21:39 downtown resident, my neighborhood. This is going to make
09:21:42 my neighborhood a walkable, sustainable, healthy community
09:21:45 that will benefit all kind of people that want to come and
09:21:48 live and work and play there, and also, I think, promote the
09:21:52 fact that our Tampa Bay Lightning will be Stanley Cup
09:21:56 champions for many years to come.
09:21:58 So I urge you to support it.
09:22:00 Thank you for the opportunity to have been be here today.
09:22:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:22:04 I'm glad you didn't put any pressure oat Vinik group.
09:22:07 Next, please.
09:22:07 >> Good morning, council.
09:22:11 My name is Morrison, 808 Franklin Street here in beautiful
09:22:16 Tampa.
09:22:17 I also have an office in Tampa so I am speaking as a
09:22:20 business owner, also as a resident.
09:22:23 So I know how much I need to talk about here, but have any
09:22:26 of you read the book the walkable city by Jeff SPECK?
09:22:31 Okay, good.
09:22:32 >> [Off microphone.]
09:22:38 >> Just want to make sure we are on the same page.
09:22:41 >> The Tampa City Council book club.
09:22:42 >> Well done.
09:22:43 Well done.
09:22:44 I want to say two things.
09:22:46 64% of college educated millennials, where they want to live
09:22:51 and only then do they look for a job.
09:22:53 A full 77% of them plan to live in America's urban core.
09:22:57 It also said -- and I thought this was interesting --
09:23:00 understanding the consolidated parks mean that fewer people
09:23:03 can walk to them.
09:23:04 The big parks are great for the weekend but not great during
09:23:06 the week.
09:23:07 And when you think about item number 4, which Jeff Vinik is
09:23:12 proposing, this is going to greatly enhance it by having
09:23:15 rooftop urban gardens, rooftop bars, dog parks.
09:23:20 I wake up every morning on the 27th floor and look out
09:23:23 and see a beautiful city.
09:23:25 And I see buildings that have in one direction or both a
09:23:29 beautiful view with either University of Tampa, or the port,
09:23:33 or the bay, or even the north view is actually quite
09:23:38 beautiful with a lot of greenery.
09:23:40 I think to myself there's a lot of rooftops that go to waste
09:23:43 there.
09:23:43 And Jeff understood this concept of seeing unobstructed
09:23:47 views and enjoying that and I would like to endorse that
09:23:50 because it's a great project, but I would also like to
09:23:52 endorse the concept of the idea of our city getting behind
09:23:56 creating Tampa Bay as a rooftop city.
09:24:00 If you look at the most influential cities in Florida,
09:24:02 Orlando, tourist capital of the world, Daytona, NASCAR
09:24:05 capital of the world, even St. Augustine, oldest city.
09:24:12 Miami.
09:24:13 We struggle with and we need to have something that people
09:24:15 from all around the world would want to come to see, like
09:24:19 the Sydney opera house or the world's largest pool.
09:24:26 If we had Tampa known as the rooftop city where you could
09:24:29 come here.
09:24:30 Imagine all of us being able to go to the Sykes building and
09:24:33 enjoy sunset and music on the top of that building.
09:24:37 Finance we could have not just Channelside but all of
09:24:40 downtown.
09:24:41 And benefit from that.
09:24:43 If just 5% of the workforce that go to the rooftops enjoying
09:24:47 drinks, listening to music, having a meal, we don't even
09:24:51 have to get into an argument about mass transit.
09:24:54 So I am here to support the Vinik project.
09:24:56 I think it's a great thing for our city and I would like to
09:24:58 encourage us to think even bigger beyond.
09:25:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:25:02 Next, please.
09:25:03 >> Good morning, council.
09:25:10 My name is Freddie Moore, here representing the Tampa
09:25:15 morning breakfast group and the TOBA group.
09:25:19 I'm here to speak on item 73.
09:25:22 And I would like to yield my time.
09:25:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:25:27 We don't yield time but go ahead, sir.
09:25:30 Next up, please.
09:25:33 You all can speak individually.
09:25:34 We are not here to yield time to people.
09:25:36 You are not a member of Congress.
09:25:38 If you want to speak to an issue or you want spokesmen to
09:25:41 speak for you, fine. This is your public comment.
09:25:44 If you don't want to speak anymore, that's fine.
09:25:49 Whatever you all want to do.
09:25:58 Finance you want to speak for your group and then everyone
09:26:01 stand up.
09:26:01 >> The reason why we did this is because the last time about
09:26:04 getting more time.
09:26:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That is correct.
09:26:06 >> That you wanted us to make sure that they yield time to
09:26:11 me S.that appropriate or know.
09:26:12 >> No, Mr. Ransom, we had a conversation prior to a meeting.
09:26:16 We did not have a conversation prior to this meeting.
09:26:18 So if you could, we have a long agenda, and, you know, you
09:26:22 are going to speak to the issue, and we would love for you
09:26:25 to speak to the issue F.each one of you want to speak to the
09:26:28 issue, that's fine, also.
09:26:29 If the council feels they want to allow you more time, that
09:26:33 is up to council to vote on that, not for me to give you --
09:26:41 how much more time do you need, sir?
09:26:43 >> Well, I would like to have at least nine minute to speak,
09:26:46 if you want me to have a little less than that, that's fine.
09:26:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Typically we do three minutes per individual
09:26:53 and then an additional minute during our public hearings of
09:26:56 one minute each.
09:26:57 Again, it's up to council to ask for that.
09:27:00 And if they would like to do that, that is up to them.
09:27:03 Anyone that would like to make a motion to that effect?
09:27:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'll move to provide Mr. Ransom nine
09:27:10 minutes.
09:27:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:27:14 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
09:27:17 Any opposed?
09:27:17 Thank you.
09:27:18 Go ahead, sir.
09:27:19 >> Thank you.
09:27:21 I may not take the full nine but I wanted to express our
09:27:26 thoughts for this morning.
09:27:27 I'm representing the Tampa breakfast club.
09:27:33 We presented this council with a number of previous
09:27:35 documents, previous to the ones, to something that appeared
09:27:40 in a '91 case, voluminous document that was read yesterday
09:27:46 that was prepared by Gregory Hart from the MB program for
09:27:52 the administration, city government.
09:27:55 Basically, in reading that document, it does not answer our
09:28:00 question that we asked for to get clarification about.
09:28:05 One was, what is the total budget of the City of Tampa
09:28:08 annually for mass transit, what was the total amount of
09:28:13 money spent by the City of Tampa for goods and services
09:28:17 including construction for the last fiscal years, and we
09:28:21 want to have that broken down demographically by race and
09:28:24 gender so we could have all of us to see and use it as a
09:28:28 benchmark, whether or not there's equity in how the city
09:28:32 spends its money.
09:28:33 Looking at the 91 pages, that doesn't cover any of that,
09:28:37 even though our documents included in the Hart report.
09:28:41 So we are going to ask City Council to please get that
09:28:44 information for us, because we don't have that today.
09:28:47 And when hopefully he may be able to find that information
09:28:53 because we don't have that information.
09:28:55 That information is very important.
09:28:56 It's important because just as we came before you, we
09:29:03 supported that project, and we still do, because Jeff Vinik
09:29:08 made a commitment about our conversation about the MBE
09:29:15 participation.
09:29:15 We are focused on African-American L African-American-owned
09:29:19 companies, but we are not excluding other groups that are
09:29:22 classified in this type of program.
09:29:25 City staff has been working with partners and we applaud
09:29:34 Madison in having a new CEO come on board, and continue to
09:29:38 do what we think are the right things so far.
09:29:41 It's up to council to get with strategic partners on that
09:29:44 project to make sure they are reporting to City Council and
09:29:46 the public how money is being spent demographically by race
09:29:51 and gender as we all agreed that would happen in this
09:29:54 process.
09:29:54 And the City of Tampa has its own budget.
09:29:58 We simply estimated that it's 200 million a year that the
09:30:02 city spends out the door for goods and services and
09:30:05 construction. We put out there the last time we came that
09:30:08 about 12.1 billion, a rough number, for two terms of City
09:30:14 Council member or the mayor, that you might spend out the
09:30:17 door.
09:30:18 We told you last time that maybe one tenth of one percent of
09:30:21 that money may be spent with African-Americans, not 10% of
09:30:24 1.6 billion which again is 160 million, not 10% of 1606
09:30:29 million which is 16 million, not 1.6 million out of 16
09:30:33 million.
09:30:34 Maybe somewhere between 160,000 to 1.6 million maybe spent
09:30:39 with African-American companies, maybe.
09:30:41 We don't know.
09:30:42 We want that information so all of us can see together how
09:30:47 the money is being spent.
09:30:51 That's important because as African-Americans we contribute
09:30:54 to the taxes.
09:30:55 We actually vote for elected officials, and we expect to
09:30:59 have equity, fairness and diversity in what you do as a
09:31:03 city.
09:31:03 We expect you to set the standard for others to follow,
09:31:06 because you represent all of the people in this community.
09:31:09 And that's simply our expectation.
09:31:11 Now, we haven't heard anything of any of the several members
09:31:13 of council that you don't agree with this.
09:31:15 No one has said to us you don't agree with this.
09:31:18 So we all are in agreement.
09:31:21 What we can't see, though, is how to evaluate it.
09:31:25 The actual information Mr. Hart produced speaks to
09:31:29 justifying why they do what they do, how they do what they
09:31:34 do in the city, and all of that does not result in showing
09:31:38 us who they are spending money with demographically by race
09:31:42 and gender.
09:31:44 Can anybody can raise their hand and tell us they saw those
09:31:47 document, we didn't see it, okay.
09:31:49 So it like a lot of information that there's nothing about
09:31:52 what we are talking about today.
09:31:53 And when Mr. Hart comes here today, he's going to tell you
09:31:57 why they do what they do, how they do what they do, and at
09:32:00 the same time, no one is being held accountable, there's no
09:32:04 consequences for failing to have equity, and diversity, and
09:32:08 economic inclusion of African-Americans among others with
09:32:11 the way the city spends money, or possibly its employees.
09:32:18 Something else to add to the list.
09:32:19 The city along with Hillsborough County contributes to the
09:32:21 enterprise business, the economic Development Corporation,
09:32:25 Tampa, Hillsborough County corporation, in job creation
09:32:30 programs.
09:32:31 Everything we do as a city and the county should be
09:32:34 conditional.
09:32:35 We should really try to make sure, that Jeff Vinik is
09:32:40 talking about that we all bought into about a community for
09:32:44 everyone which includes African-Americans among all the
09:32:46 other people in everyone, that all of us can live, work,
09:32:49 play, stay safely here together.
09:32:53 And top do that we must put conditions on those things.
09:32:56 If the city administration fails to respond to this council,
09:32:59 we recommend that you begin denying contracts coming before
09:33:03 you to approve them, unless they find language in those
09:33:06 contracts that is going to result in the bottom line showing
09:33:09 all of us that they are actually spending money.
09:33:13 With a list of people that they have gotten over there,
09:33:16 certified people they have gotten on this that represents
09:33:19 the demographics.
09:33:22 Have a list or have a program unless it's going to actually
09:33:26 work?
09:33:26 So people need to be held accountable.
09:33:28 That includes the mayor.
09:33:29 The mayor is the one who administrators all these funds that
09:33:33 are being spent that you approve in the mayor's budget.
09:33:36 They come back to City Council for cost overruns.
09:33:42 We need to come back and approve to spend more money, come
09:33:46 back and bring contracts to the City Council for approval,
09:33:48 and you don't have to approve any of those contracts if they
09:33:51 don't meet what we are talking about now.
09:33:53 And we think that is reasonable and fair.
09:33:55 Otherwise, nothing will change.
09:33:57 Nothing will change.
09:33:58 And we would appreciate it very much if this council would
09:34:01 tab those kinds of actions, continue to -- you have done up
09:34:06 to this point -- trying to get the information.
09:34:08 We appreciate you doing that.
09:34:09 Please continue to drill down on the very basic information
09:34:14 that appears on this one sheet of paper that's in your
09:34:17 document that no one answered.
09:34:20 There's nothing in that document that respond, and we would
09:34:24 appreciate it if you can get a response.
09:34:26 And when Mr. Hart comes and speak, because we are on record,
09:34:30 our dour ultimate is on record, we are going to be here.
09:34:33 When he comes to speak, if any of you want to ask us to come
09:34:37 up and ask us, did Mr. Hart's report respond to his request
09:34:42 in his document, we he would like to speak to that, if that
09:34:45 is possible.
09:34:46 With that I'll take any questions if you have any.
09:34:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione.
09:34:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The form that you provided us, it's
09:34:54 fairly well laid out.
09:34:55 It very simple.
09:34:56 Did you provide that to Mr. Hart?
09:34:58 >> He does have it.
09:35:00 If you recall, he has it in his 91 document, the 91 pages
09:35:04 that he submitted as an attachment.
09:35:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But it's spelled out?
09:35:11 >> no, my letter to you, this letter here, all that you
09:35:18 received, it asks City Council to provide us with
09:35:20 information.
09:35:23 So we certainly think it's reasonable to get a response to
09:35:28 this letter as well.
09:35:32 We come up and make an official public records request and
09:35:36 gone through that problem sees when we did something that's
09:35:38 very basic and very reasonable.
09:35:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I didn't see it so I wasn't sure if it
09:35:44 was provided to you and maybe not to us.
09:35:46 >> No.
09:35:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:35:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions?
09:35:52 Thank you so much.
09:35:52 >> Thank you as well.
09:35:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Next, please.
09:35:56 >> Honorable chairman, honorable council members, I'm David
09:36:08 luck with clear village on number 83 when that comes up.
09:36:15 In the last meeting there was some concern about the first
09:36:18 year minimum in the agreement, the idea behind that first
09:36:22 year minimum was that there were some integration costs to
09:36:26 identify properties that were foreclosed and weren't
09:36:32 registered but were unoccupied and we wanted to make sure
09:36:36 where there was a rent-back agreement for the foreclosed
09:36:39 property was somehow occupied that there was not any further
09:36:44 process against those properties.
09:36:46 So the idea was to have that.
09:36:49 There was also some specific work flow relating to
09:36:53 noncompliance that the department wanted, and we wanted to
09:36:56 cover that.
09:36:57 Based on the registry, that's not really an issue.
09:37:01 So the city has the right to modify the agreement and we
09:37:07 made the offer to remove the first year minimum, and I'm
09:37:12 here to answer any questions when that comes up.
09:37:14 Thank you for your time.
09:37:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Are you here to negotiate with us?
09:37:17 Because I think you are supposed to negotiate with the
09:37:19 administration, aren't you?
09:37:20 >> I have already notified them.
09:37:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Just want to make sure, just to clarify.
09:37:25 Thank you for being up here for public comment.
09:37:35 >> Okay, I'm Ed, Ed Tillou, Sulphur Springs.
09:37:39 Okay, one of the speakers before me, two before me, about
09:37:45 Mr. Hart, there was quantification, the search for
09:37:52 quantification.
09:37:57 The thing is that's what you need to make decisions.
09:38:01 Okay.
09:38:02 I distributed this before.
09:38:03 It's more something for the county commission but it's about
09:38:07 a rail commuter rail line.
09:38:09 And I said it was a $400 million bond issue.
09:38:13 But it would actually be 440.
09:38:15 The reason being arrives on the track 20 years and on the
09:38:24 cars 10.
09:38:24 But anyway, I distributed and of course it's annotated for
09:38:28 your clarification, to make it easier for you.
09:38:33 I also hand add round transit guide because you know that of
09:38:36 the seven of you, even though there were eight votes on the
09:38:42 chairmanship that was kind of strange but anyway, 7 of you.
09:38:46 One of you -- and somewhere else -- one of you uses public
09:38:52 transportation but the rest of you don't.
09:38:54 Now, the thing is, to provide for Chevy volts, which I don't
09:39:01 have it this week so you are spared that this week.
09:39:08 But the Chevy volt, there's enough buy-fuel production
09:39:13 potential, but 94 million volts.
09:39:16 Now, the thing is that there's 200 million cars in the
09:39:20 United States.
09:39:25 To start getting serious about carbon dioxide, with I is
09:39:28 triggering the global warming, climatic change.
09:39:31 There's another thing, too.
09:39:33 This was in the paper.
09:39:34 And this shows the lack of understanding of the algae over
09:39:42 on the other coast.
09:39:46 Err R.now, it's not algae.
09:39:48 Algae is a higher life form of a plant.
09:39:51 There is algae but this is not what's involved here. This
09:39:54 is blue green algae.
09:39:58 Now, you have lots of cyanobacteria because you breathe
09:40:07 oxygen, and these came from creatures, hundreds of millions
09:40:11 of years, taking in carbon dioxide and giving off oxygen.
09:40:16 Now, what that indicates, these creatures that take in
09:40:19 carbon dioxide and give off oxygen, this is a response.
09:40:24 This San response of the planet.
09:40:26 It's not just nitrogen in the fertilizer.
09:40:29 That's something that's been beaten on for 20 years and it's
09:40:32 certainly part of the issue, but you have a rip van Winkle
09:40:37 situation, the Environmental Protection Commission over at
09:40:38 the county.
09:40:41 It's like 20 or 30 years ago.
09:40:44 These people have not adjusted, not adapted to these things
09:40:47 and carbon dioxide should be front and center on that.
09:40:53 Carbon footprint.
09:40:55 That would quantify things to make proper decision making.
09:40:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
09:41:00 Next up.
09:41:01 >> Good morning, council.
09:41:11 I was born and raised in Tampa.
09:41:14 I'm proud to call Tampa my home.
09:41:15 Later you will hear an update from the Parks Department
09:41:19 regarding the sunscreen to be placed throughout the City of
09:41:22 Tampa, Bayshore, on the Riverwalk, throughout community
09:41:27 parks and pools.
09:41:27 I want to let you know what a great idea I think this would
09:41:30 be for the City of Tampa, the residents of Tampa, and
09:41:32 visitors of Tampa.
09:41:34 As a mom, I put sunscreen on my kids every day before school
09:41:38 or camp.
09:41:41 And have an understanding of the damaging effects of
09:41:43 sunscreen and how we protect ourselves from skin cancer.
09:41:48 When my boys were little, I would head to Bayshore,
09:41:52 sometimes be gone longer and go to a park and then I would
09:41:55 have to run back home.
09:41:56 We were out for longer, and it would be nice to have these
09:41:59 sunscreens placed throughout parks and Bayshore, to put on
09:42:06 sunscreen again.
09:42:08 I was recently in Portugal and I was reading an article in
09:42:12 the Portugal airport about the City of Tampa, and we
09:42:15 continue to attract more and more visitors to the City of
09:42:17 Tampa and these visitors and tourists aren't aware of the
09:42:20 damaging effects of sun or familiar with how hot it is in
09:42:23 Tampa, and it would be nice for those taking a stroll on the
09:42:28 Riverwalk or Bayshore to put on sunscreen by having these
09:42:32 free sunscreen centers throughout the City of Tampa.
09:42:38 Lori with Mise En is willing to donate 20 units to the City
09:42:40 of Tampa, and Tampa General Hospital has expressed an
09:42:43 interest in providing the sunscreen that goes into these
09:42:46 units.
09:42:47 So the City of Tampa Parks Department would just be
09:42:50 responsible for maintaining the units, would be responsible
09:42:52 for installing the units and also refilling the sunscreen
09:42:57 units when they are empty.
09:42:59 I just wanted to let you know it's a great idea, and I'm
09:43:03 looking forward to hearing any updates.
09:43:05 Thank you.
09:43:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:43:07 Next.
09:43:07 And before you speak, sir, I want to announce anyone else in
09:43:10 the that would like to speak before this gentleman speaks,
09:43:13 if not he will be the last one.
09:43:15 If there are, please stand alongside here.
09:43:18 Anyone else?
09:43:19 Sir, you are next.
09:43:19 >> Taylor Rowell, 3703 west San Juan street, Tampa.
09:43:24 Here I want to talk about item number 4.
09:43:27 But first, thank you for putting the sunscreen in Coronoa
09:43:30 Park, our neighborhood park, and I used it the other day.
09:43:34 I seriously encourage that.
09:43:35 But I'm here to represent in support of the Strategic
09:43:43 Partners' plan to install chill water system for the
09:43:46 project.
09:43:46 Not only are they pursuing innovation and pushing the
09:43:50 envelope for development in the City of Tampa and the
09:43:53 southeast region of our country, but I also want to
09:43:57 encourage you to loon at the City of Tampa's green ordinance
09:44:00 that I helped work with many other community members
09:44:03 including Councilman John Dingfelder back in 2007, 2008.
09:44:10 There are some incentives that the city provides people that
09:44:12 are building, LEED certified buildings and pursuing
09:44:16 sustainability when they are developing multifamily
09:44:19 single-family commercial structures.
09:44:22 Not only that, but the city in the ordinance actually
09:44:26 clarifies that the city should be pursuing these measures as
09:44:30 well.
09:44:30 If we are going to attract corporate entities that we want
09:44:33 to relocate to our city and to our county, we need to be
09:44:36 pursuing sustainability.
09:44:38 Any major tech company, any building in Silicon Valley and
09:44:44 elsewhere that houses a fortune 500 or an up and coming tech
09:44:48 start-up, et cetera, is going to be pursuing energy
09:44:51 efficiency, sustainability, occupant health and things like
09:44:54 that.
09:44:54 So let's use this as an opportunity for Tampa to say that we
09:44:59 represent innovation.
09:45:01 But back to item number 4, with the pursuit of
09:45:06 sustainability and efficiency, this chiller plant also
09:45:10 provides an opportunity for future buildings, not related to
09:45:13 their project to actually pursue efficiency and
09:45:18 sustainability, will promote quality of life for residents
09:45:22 in and around all of this project.
09:45:23 So please support this and please use this as an opportunity
09:45:28 to look at how the city can be more innovative and
09:45:31 encouraged and show the state and the country that we are
09:45:35 progressive, and we are for building health, innovation, and
09:45:40 sustainability.
09:45:41 Thank you.
09:45:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:45:43 One last time, anyone else in the public to be speak at this
09:45:45 time for any item on the agenda that is not set for public
09:45:47 hearing?
09:45:48 I see no one.
09:45:50 Before I go forward, Ms. Capin had an issue that she wanted
09:45:54 to ask to be removed for discussion.
09:45:56 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes. Under parks, recreation and cultural
09:46:00 committee, item 13, some clarification on that.
09:46:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay, terrific.
09:46:09 So Mr. Maniscalco, we'll talk about that at that time.
09:46:15 Mr. Cohen?
09:46:16 >>HARRY COHEN: Related to item number 64.
09:46:18 I checked with Mr. Shelby, and there's no reason that that
09:46:22 review hearing can't be held at night.
09:46:24 They asked for August 25th at 10:30.
09:46:28 I am going to make a motion that when we actually set the
09:46:32 public hearing now for September 8th at 5:30 p.m.
09:46:36 >> Second.
09:46:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
09:46:38 A second from Mrs. Montelione.
09:46:40 All in favor of that motion?
09:46:42 Any opposed?
09:46:43 Thank you.
09:46:44 Item number 2.
09:46:46 Do we have someone from staff?
09:46:48 >> Elaine Lund, Historic preservation.
09:46:57 You have before you the first reading for the landmark
09:47:00 designation of the theater at 1617 North Franklin Street.
09:47:06 We will be following up at the second reading with a full
09:47:09 presentation on the item.
09:47:10 If you have any questions today.
09:47:11 Thank you.
09:47:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions at this time?
09:47:15 Would someone like to take that first item?
09:47:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Thank you very much.
09:47:19 Item number 2 is an ordinance being presented for first
09:47:21 reading consideration, an ordinance of the city of Tampa,
09:47:25 Florida amending the North Franklin Street downtown local
09:47:28 landmark multiple properties group to have include the
09:47:30 Rialto theater located at 1617 North Franklin Street, Tampa,
09:47:34 Florida as more particularly described in section 3 hereof
09:47:37 as a local landmark, providing for repeal of all ordinances
09:47:40 in conflict, providing for severability, providing an
09:47:42 effective date.
09:47:42 >> Second.
09:47:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Maniscalco, second by
09:47:47 Mrs. Manatee Monday.
09:47:48 All in favor of that motion?
09:47:50 Any opposed?
09:47:50 Thank you.
09:47:51 >>THE CLERK: Second reading on number 2 will be on August
09:47:56 4th at 9:30 a.m.
09:47:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:47:59 Item number 3 is a first reading.
09:48:01 I think it's to repair a scrivener's error.
09:48:05 Is that correct?
09:48:05 Mrs. Montelione, please take that item.
09:48:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move an ordinance being presented for
09:48:10 first reading consideration, an ordinance amending ordinance
09:48:12 number 2016-37 passed and ordained by the City Council of
09:48:16 the City of Tampa own March 21, 2016, which approved special
09:48:20 use permit for a small venue with consumption on premises
09:48:23 only located at 1719 and 1723 West Kennedy Boulevard Tampa,
09:48:27 Florida and 1712 and 1714 North "A" street Tampa, Florida
09:48:32 correcting a scrivener's error by correcting the language in
09:48:34 section 3 of the ordinance, providing for severability
09:48:38 providing an effective date.
09:48:38 >> I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione, a second by Mr.
09:48:41 Maniscalco.
09:48:42 All in favor of that motion?
09:48:44 Any opposed?
09:48:45 Thank you.
09:48:46 >> Second reading and adoption will be on August 4, 2016 at
09:48:51 9:30 a.m.
09:48:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:48:53 Item number 4.
09:49:00 Staff?
09:49:01 There's a reason why all the cameras are here.
09:49:05 Someone from staff.
09:49:05 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
09:49:08 Item number 4 is on first reading for a chiller.
09:49:10 And unless you have questions, I really have nothing to say.
09:49:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I am going to make you describe what a
09:49:15 chiller is.
09:49:21 Mrs. Montelione.
09:49:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I was hoping somebody from finance would
09:49:24 be here, because section 3, when it talks about that each
09:49:32 annual payment shall increase by 3% upon the anniversary
09:49:36 date set this date, unless he section 3-2-B is implemented
09:49:42 and then there's a little bit more of a complicated revenue
09:49:46 agreement.
09:49:48 So I wanted to have somebody hopefully talk about the
09:49:53 revenue.
09:49:57 We have other agreements, franchise agreements in place,
09:50:00 that I know when we put an agreement in place for 30 years,
09:50:06 with this somewhat no changes until the 22nd year, I would
09:50:11 like to make sure that we have got an ironclad agreement and
09:50:16 the best agreement possible.
09:50:17 I mean, I was a member of the USGBD one time years ago, and
09:50:28 believe this is phenomenally a great idea, project.
09:50:35 If it moves the City of Tampa in the sustainable direction
09:50:38 that we need to go with our commercial properties, but I
09:50:41 would like to make sure, you know, that the numbers fly out
09:50:44 in our favor from now until the 22nd year, apparently.
09:50:49 >>SAL TERRITO: I can explain.
09:50:51 Generally we don't even have flan chase agreements. This
09:50:55 one does. This is a little unusual.
09:50:57 Just like anything else, we have it with TECO, people's gas
09:51:02 and so forth.
09:51:03 And those don't have escalators in them.
09:51:06 So this one does.
09:51:07 And it's a better deal for the City of Tampa.
09:51:09 So we think it's a better deal than we have had with some of
09:51:12 the other franchises that we will be dealing with.
09:51:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
09:51:16 The questions that I had all related to those numbers and to
09:51:19 the revenue stream.
09:51:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions?
09:51:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: To follow up with Mrs. Montelione, since
09:51:28 it's the first reading maybe someone can find that before
09:51:31 second reading.
09:51:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's an excellent idea, Mr. Reddick.
09:51:35 And maybe between now and second reading, someone from staff
09:51:39 can come here and speak to that.
09:51:41 And, you know, the only other question I had was on section
09:51:49 number 4, subparagraph 9, corrosion control, microbio
09:51:58 control shall be nontoxic and not contaminate the soil
09:52:05 surrounding the component.
09:52:06 So there's not a disclosure for those chemicals.
09:52:09 Or reference to what they might be.
09:52:11 I mean other than they should be quote-unquote nontoxic.
09:52:16 >> They will be dealing with that.
09:52:19 This one basically gives them the franchise, explain what
09:52:21 they will need when they come in for permit and so forth.
09:52:25 It will be generally addressed at that time.
09:52:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So that will be addressed at permitting?
09:52:28 >> It will be a dressed at permitting and monitored by the
09:52:31 department on an ongoing basis.
09:52:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Because I didn't see anything for
09:52:35 monitoring but if that's part of the process the monitoring
09:52:38 will be built in.
09:52:39 But it didn't appear to be in this agreement.
09:52:45 So that was another question I had.
09:52:47 Thank you.
09:52:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other comments or questions before I go
09:52:50 to Mr. Miranda?
09:52:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, sir.
09:52:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Miranda.
09:52:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Wait any longer, I might have died.
09:52:56 But anyway --
09:52:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Two questions?
09:53:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, not talking about you, talking about
09:53:03 me.
09:53:03 What I am saying is this, that I had a conversation this
09:53:05 morning with Mrs. Little and also Mr. Territo.
09:53:09 And this is the first ever on any franchise where they have
09:53:14 an escalated cost.
09:53:15 All of them.
09:53:16 This is the first one.
09:53:17 There's nothing wrong.
09:53:18 I talked to finance.
09:53:20 And they gave give me all the facts and figures and it's up
09:53:30 to council to say yes or no.
09:53:31 That's it.
09:53:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other comments or questions by council?
09:53:35 I have one question, Mr. Territo, about the escalator
09:53:38 clause.
09:53:38 Because it's something new, what was the decision that made
09:53:43 us do this as opposed to other franchise agreements in the
09:53:46 past?
09:53:47 >> We may have thought it through better this time.
09:53:50 And because it's a 30 year agreement.
09:53:52 I'll take back a little of what I said.
09:53:54 The only permit was TECO because we had a 4.5% provision in
09:53:59 there which is our standard franchise fee.
09:54:02 We put in a one-time 6% jump.
09:54:04 This way we thought better of it and thought, we are going
09:54:08 to do 6% at the starting point and put time involved, 30
09:54:14 years, 6%, 30 years, so that's why we built in this time.
09:54:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, you weren't the lawyer on the other
09:54:25 contract, right?
09:54:28 >>SAL TERRITO: I was on some of them.
09:54:30 Live and learn.
09:54:31 Who would like to move the item?
09:54:33 >>HARRY COHEN: I move an ordinance being presented for
09:54:36 first reading consideration, an ordinance granting to
09:54:39 Strategic Property Partners LLC its successors and assigns a
09:54:43 nonexclusive franchise to use the public streets, alleys,
09:54:47 highways, waterways, bridges, easements and other public
09:54:50 places in the City of Tampa for the construction,
09:54:52 maintenance and operation of a chilled water distribution
09:54:55 and return system, including all necessary appurtenances to
09:54:59 the delivery and return of chilled water in the City of
09:55:01 Tampa and prescribing the terms and conditions under which
09:55:06 said nonexclusive franchise may be exercised providing for
09:55:09 severability, providing an effective date.
09:55:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:55:14 All in favor of that motion?
09:55:15 Any opposed?
09:55:16 Thank you.
09:55:16 >>THE CLERK: Second reading and adoption will be held on
09:55:21 August 4, 2016 at 93:07 a.m.
09:55:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
09:55:25 We go over to our committee reports.
09:55:28 Mr. Charlie Miranda, the chair of our Public Safety
09:55:30 Committee.
09:55:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move items 5 up there 8.
09:55:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a second by Mr. Cohen.
09:55:37 All in favor of that motion?
09:55:38 Any opposed?
09:55:40 Next up is parks, recreation, cultural committee.
09:55:43 Mr. Maniscalco, we will talk about item number 13.
09:55:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I move items number 9 through 26 with
09:55:53 the exception of number 13 which has been pulled for
09:55:56 discussion.
09:56:03 And item number 12 to be continuously.
09:56:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:56:08 I have a second by Mr. Cohen.
09:56:09 I have a question from the clerk.
09:56:11 >>THE CLERK: [Off microphone.]
09:56:19 >>Are so item 12 would be continued to August 25th.
09:56:22 >> motion by Mr. Maniscalco.
09:56:24 Second by Mr. Cohen.
09:56:25 All in favor of that motion?
09:56:26 Any opposed?
09:56:27 Okay.
09:56:28 Before we move onto the next committee assignment, let's get
09:56:32 some of the answers that Mrs. Capin has on item number 13.
09:56:35 Mr. McDonaugh, are you here to speak on item number 13?
09:56:40 >> I am, sir.
09:56:43 Bob McDonaugh, City of Tampa, economic development
09:56:45 administrator.
09:56:47 Item number 13 is a month to month extension of the existing
09:56:59 ARAMARK contract.
09:57:02 We are asking for a month to month extension of the existing
09:57:04 contract.
09:57:05 >>YVONNE CAPIN: When does it expire?
09:57:07 >> At the end of July, I believe.
09:57:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The end of this month.
09:57:12 Okay.
09:57:12 The reason that I have is that it is a term of agreement
09:57:16 shall continue month to month.
09:57:17 I am going to read it.
09:57:18 The term of agreement shall continue month to month basis
09:57:23 beginning July 1, 2016, until such time as the city provides
09:57:27 a contractor with 15-day written notice in advance of its
09:57:31 intention to terminate this agreement, irrespective of
09:57:35 whether or not contractors met all the obligations in this
09:57:39 agreement.
09:57:41 What I have here is, we have a month to month that has no
09:57:45 end.
09:57:49 Okay, let me -- I am going to suggest 90 days.
09:57:53 And at the end of 90 days, it can come back, and we'll
09:57:57 either extend it or there will be a contract for us to look
09:57:59 at.
09:57:59 >>BOB McDONAUGH: That would be fine.
09:58:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: But it has to be taken up within -- I am
09:58:08 not here to negotiate.
09:58:09 I am here to tell you -- right?
09:58:12 I can't speak for him.
09:58:18 Go ahead, Mr. McDonaugh.
09:58:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I am going to make that motion, that we
09:58:23 allow this month to month basis for 90 days, which would be
09:58:31 October -- starting July 1?
09:58:34 The end of October.
09:58:36 Thank you, Mr. Cohen.
09:58:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before we take up the motion, Mr. Miranda
09:58:41 has a question.
09:58:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And I appreciate the comment that Mrs.
09:58:44 Capin made, and whatever other comments were made both
09:58:48 sides.
09:58:48 But I don't want to put -- and I am not against the 90 days.
09:58:51 But I want to make sure that ARAMARK doesn't think 90 days
09:58:56 they are going to put the city in defense that it has to be
09:59:01 done in 90 days and negotiations to work on to make sure the
09:59:05 city gets the best viable contract with ARAMARK.
09:59:09 And I don't want to put the city on the defense or the other
09:59:13 side thinking it's going to be done in 90 days.
09:59:15 That's the only thing I am saying.
09:59:17 And I will vote for the 90 days but I want to make sure that
09:59:21 I don't puppet the city in a defense.
09:59:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay, let us run the meeting.
09:59:29 Thank you very much.
09:59:29 I appreciate it.
09:59:30 Go ahead.
09:59:31 Mr. McDonaugh.
09:59:32 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I am accepting of the council members
09:59:38 suggestion to change the agreement.
09:59:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: So the motion is to continue the month to
09:59:45 month until the end of October, which is October 31.
09:59:51 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Which at such point if we have not
09:59:55 successfully conclude the negotiation I would come back to
09:59:59 council and ask for an extension.
10:00:00 Month to month agreement.
10:00:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Exactly, yes.
10:00:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You accept that motion is agreeable, Mr.
10:00:08 Reddick, you were going to second that motion?
10:00:10 Okay.
10:00:11 Let us have Mr. Shelby weigh in.
10:00:13 We have a motion and a second from Mrs. Capin and seconded
10:00:17 by Mr. Reddick.
10:00:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: What you have here is a resolution
10:00:20 approving a specific contract.
10:00:21 That contract, the administration is offering to have that
10:00:27 contract amended, as I understand it.
10:00:30 >>BOB McDONAUGH: That's correct.
10:00:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: And what you have in front of you is
10:00:34 something that under your committee reports, a resolution
10:00:38 that you can either vote up or down.
10:00:40 My recommendation would be that you continue it to the next
10:00:43 regular meeting and have the administration come back with
10:00:45 the amended agreement, at which point council can -- or not,
10:00:50 either way -- at which point council with choose to vote it
10:00:53 up or down, as opposed to making something contingent on
10:00:59 prospectively.
10:01:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We will go ahead and clear that particular
10:01:04 motion and then we'll come back top any motion for
10:01:06 continuance.
10:01:07 That motion from Mrs. Capin, and then second from Mr.
10:01:11 Reddick.
10:01:11 >>HARRY COHEN: I think there may be a concern since it's
10:01:14 the end of July and I would suggest, we do have a regular
10:01:17 meeting -- we have an evening meeting next week, if there's
10:01:20 a time crunch, this could come back then rather than on the
10:01:24 4th, if that would be problematic.
10:01:26 >> That would be acceptable.
10:01:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before we go on, I have a legal question,
10:01:31 and I guess Mr. Territo, or any other legal department
10:01:34 members can answer this, which is if for some reason it goes
10:01:38 back past that 30 day -- I'm sorry that July date, it's
10:01:43 still automatically going to renew?
10:01:47 Per the contract?
10:01:49 >>SAL TERRITO: I understand coming back and saying it's 30
10:01:51 days.
10:01:52 Ongoing it's 30 days assigned.
10:01:55 And we are trying to make an end point.
10:01:57 And it still continues even if it doesn't come back, you
10:01:59 know, negotiated and tied up in a BOW before our next
10:02:05 regular meeting.
10:02:06 Correct?
10:02:07 >>SAL TERRITO: Correct.
10:02:09 The concern was she wanted some kind of end date so it ends
10:02:12 quickly, and I understand that.
10:02:14 The only concern I have, and I brought it up before, I hate
10:02:18 to do this, but the way things work here, you can vote yay
10:02:21 or nay.
10:02:22 You can vote it down unless it comes back and that was the
10:02:24 reason I think bringing it back on that evening meeting made
10:02:27 more sense because the administration has to agree they are
10:02:30 going to change the agreement.
10:02:31 It's totally within your control to say "yes" or "no."
10:02:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I just want to make sure in terms of
10:02:37 procedurally and time frame that the contract still
10:02:39 continues regardless of whatever the negotiated --
10:02:43 >>SAL TERRITO: I'm not sure -- if there's no extension it
10:02:46 may end and you may not have any service.
10:02:48 That's the concern we all have as well.
10:02:50 I don't know the contract well enough to know if it
10:02:52 continues.
10:02:52 Lots of things do.
10:02:53 I'm not sure if this one does.
10:02:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's why I want to make sure we clear it
10:02:58 up.
10:02:59 >>SAL TERRITO: There is no extension I am being told.
10:03:04 Either dies or goes forward.
10:03:05 >>YVONNE CAPIN: If there's an extension, why are they
10:03:08 asking to us extend it?
10:03:09 So there is no extension.
10:03:10 >>SAL TERRITO: Correct.
10:03:15 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I am going to amend my motion for the
10:03:17 administration with Bob McDonaugh be amended with the 90
10:03:23 day, or the end of October, whatever time frame that is, to
10:03:26 come back the next regular meeting, July 21, 5:30 p.m.
10:03:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Second.
10:03:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All in favor of that color motion say aye.
10:03:48 Any opposed?
10:03:49 Okay, thank you, Mr. Territo.
10:03:52 Next up is Public Works Committee, Mr. Frank Reddick is our
10:03:55 chair.
10:03:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move item 27 to 31.
10:04:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have ooh second from Mr. Miranda.
10:04:08 All in favor of that motion?
10:04:09 Any opposed?
10:04:14 Finance Committee.
10:04:15 >>HARRY COHEN: Move 32 and 33.
10:04:19 >> Second by Mr. Miranda.
10:04:22 All in favor?
10:04:23 Opposed?
10:04:24 Okay.
10:04:25 Preservation committee, Lisa Montelione.
10:04:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move 34 through 52.
10:04:30 >> Second.
10:04:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mrs. Montelione.
10:04:32 I have a second by Mr. Maniscalco.
10:04:34 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:04:37 Okay.
10:04:37 Next up is transportation committee.
10:04:42 Yvonne Yolie Capin.
10:04:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Move 53 through 67.
10:04:47 >> Motion by Mrs. Capin.
10:04:49 Second by Mr. Cohen.
10:04:50 All in favor of that motion?
10:04:52 Any opposed?
10:04:53 Thank you very much.
10:04:55 We have items 61 through 647 which are items being set for
10:04:59 public hearings.
10:05:01 We have cleared item 64.
10:05:14 If I can get a motion for 61.
10:05:16 Motion by Mr. Reddick.
10:05:17 Second by Mr. Cohen.
10:05:18 All in favor of that motion?
10:05:20 Any opposed?
10:05:21 Okay.
10:05:21 Item number 62.
10:05:22 >> Move the resolution.
10:05:25 >> Second.
10:05:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
10:05:26 Second by Mr. Reddick.
10:05:28 All in favor of that motion?
10:05:30 Item number 63.
10:05:31 >> So moved.
10:05:32 >> Second.
10:05:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Reddick.
10:05:35 Second from Mr. Cohen.
10:05:36 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:05:39 Any opposed?
10:05:40 Okay.
10:05:42 We are at 10:04 a.m., and now we can start our 9:30 a.m.
10:05:47 motions.
10:05:49 Can I get a motion to open items 65 through 70?
10:05:55 >> Motion by Mr. Reddick.
10:06:01 Seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
10:06:03 All in favor? Any opposed?
10:06:05 Clerk, if you can swear in anyone that is going to speak on
10:06:08 items number 65 through 70, please rise and be sworn in.
10:06:15 (Oath administered by Clerk)
10:06:23 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
10:06:33 Items 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, all require site plans.
10:06:43 Those have been provided to the clerk.
10:06:45 I am available for any questions.
10:06:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions of council?
10:06:51 Does petitioner want to make any comments?
10:06:54 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Address suite 3700 Bank of America Plaza.
10:06:59 I represent the petitioner in this application, and I
10:07:05 respectfully request your second reading on this item.
10:07:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
10:07:11 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:07:13 item number 65?
10:07:16 >> Move to close.
10:07:17 >> Motion by Mr. Cohen.
10:07:18 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
10:07:20 All in favor?
10:07:21 Any opposed?
10:07:23 Mr. Miranda, if you could take number 65, please.
10:07:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: File AB 2-16-13, an ordinance being
10:07:31 presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance
10:07:33 repealing ordinance 2011-104 approving a special use permit
10:07:38 S-2 for alcoholic beverage sales small venue on premises
10:07:42 consumption and retail package sales off premises couples
10:07:46 and making lawful the sale of beer and wine at or from that
10:07:49 certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 3225 South
10:07:53 MacDill Avenue, suite 117 Tampa, Florida as more
10:07:57 particularly described in section 3, that all ordinances or
10:08:01 parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an
10:08:04 effective date.
10:08:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Second by Mrs. Montelione.
10:08:08 Please record your vote.
10:08:09 >>THE CLERK: It isn't working.
10:08:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Please do a roll call vote.
10:08:29 That's what you see on the screen.
10:08:31 Item number 66.
10:08:33 Staff.
10:08:36 Petitioner?
10:08:41 Buehler?
10:08:42 Sir, come to the podium.
10:08:46 >> Certified planner with the avid group.
10:08:52 Just want to say local brewing company, looking forward to
10:08:56 the opening for business, renovating 4066 Boy Scout road,
10:09:01 and we are here if you have any questions.
10:09:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
10:09:06 Any questions from council?
10:09:08 Anyone in the public?
10:09:09 I apologize.
10:09:09 >>HARRY COHEN: Just the wrong thing is up here.
10:09:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone in the public to be speak on item 66?
10:09:21 Motion to close by Mr. Cohen.
10:09:22 Second by Mrs. Maniscalco.
10:09:25 Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Montelione.
10:09:32 The ghost did it.
10:09:33 Second from Mrs. Montelione.
10:09:34 All in favor of that motion?
10:09:36 Any opposed?
10:09:37 Mr. Reddick, if you could please kindly take number 66?
10:09:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move item for second reading and adoption,
10:09:46 ordinance approving a special use permit S 2 for alcoholic
10:09:52 beverage sales large venue restaurant consumption on
10:09:55 premises and making lawful the sale of beverages regardless
10:09:59 of alcoholic content beer wine and liquor on that certain
10:10:01 lot, plot or tract of land located at 4606 west Boy Scout
10:10:08 road Boulevard are more particularly described in section 2
10:10:10 that all ordinances are parts of ordinances in conflict are
10:10:14 repealed, providing an effective date.
10:10:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Second by Mrs. Montelione.
10:10:17 Please record your vote.
10:10:20 It's coming up on the clerk's screen.
10:10:31 Roll call, please.
10:10:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No.
10:10:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes.
10:10:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
10:10:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes.
10:10:37 >>HARRY COHEN: Yes.
10:10:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
10:10:41 >> Motion carried with Miranda voting no and Maniscalco
10:10:44 being absent at vote.
10:10:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:10:49 Item number 67.
10:10:50 >> Grace Yang, Gray Robinson law firm, 401 East Jackson
10:10:59 Street, suite 2700 Tampa 3360 the 2. This is for our
10:11:05 microbrewery client on Gandy Boulevard and the expansion
10:11:08 that they are requesting to allow for additional storage
10:11:11 space.
10:11:12 We would greatly appreciate your approval on second reading.
10:11:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council on this item?
10:11:17 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:11:20 item number 67?
10:11:21 67?
10:11:21 I see no one.
10:11:22 >> Move to close.
10:11:25 >> Motion from Mr. Cohen.
10:11:26 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
10:11:28 All in favor of that motion?
10:11:29 Any opposed?
10:11:31 Mrs. Capin, if you could take number 67, please.
10:11:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: An ordinance being presented for second
10:11:37 reading and adoption, an ordinance repealing ordinance
10:11:40 2015-107 approval a special use permit S-2 for alcoholic
10:11:45 beverage sales large venue, microbrewery, on premises
10:11:50 consumption and retail package sales offpremises
10:11:53 consumption, and making lawful the sale of beer and wine at
10:11:56 or from that certain plot, plot or tract of land located at
10:11:59 4465 West Gandy Boulevard suite 600 Tampa, Florida as more
10:12:05 particularly described in section 3, that all ordinances or
10:12:08 parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an
10:12:11 effective date.
10:12:11 >> Second.
10:12:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mrs. Capin.
10:12:14 I have a second from Mr. Cohen.
10:12:15 Roll call vote, please.
10:12:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
10:12:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes.
10:12:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
10:12:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes.
10:12:22 >>HARRY COHEN: Yes.
10:12:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
10:12:27 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Maniscalco being absent at
10:12:30 vote.
10:12:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item number 68.
10:12:33 68.
10:12:33 >> I'm here on behalf of the wine exchange to request your
10:12:46 approval on second reading for small venue consumption on
10:12:50 and off premises of beer wine and liquor.
10:12:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:12:53 Any questions from council?
10:12:55 Is there anyone in the public that be would like to speak on
10:12:58 item number 68?
10:12:59 68?
10:13:00 >> Move to close.
10:13:00 >> Motion by Mr. Cohen.
10:13:02 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
10:13:03 All in favor of that motion?
10:13:06 Any opposed?
10:13:07 Mr. Cohen, if you would kindly take number 68.
10:13:10 >>HARRY COHEN: I move an ordinance being presented for
10:13:12 second reading and adoption, an ordinance repealing
10:13:15 ordinance number 2007-221 approving a special use permit S-2
10:13:19 for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue on premises
10:13:23 consumption and retail package sales off-premises
10:13:26 consumption, and making lawful the sale of beer, wine and
10:13:29 liquor at or from that certain lot, plot or tract of land
10:13:32 located at 1609 west snow Avenue, Tampa, Florida as more
10:13:37 particularly described in section 3, that all ordinances or
10:13:40 parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an
10:13:43 effective date.
10:13:43 >> Second.
10:13:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, a second by
10:13:49 Mr. Maniscalco.
10:13:50 Roll call vote.
10:13:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
10:13:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes.
10:13:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
10:13:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes.
10:13:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Yes.
10:13:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Yes.
10:13:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
10:14:00 >> Motion carried.
10:14:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item number 69.
10:14:05 >> Truett Gardner, for item 69 and 70 are linked.
10:14:09 69 is the PD portion.
10:14:11 07 is development agreement which came in front of you
10:14:13 separately.
10:14:14 And now they are ending up together, if you have any
10:14:16 questions, I am here to answer.
10:14:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
10:14:23 Anyone in the public to be speak on item 69?
10:14:25 I see no one.
10:14:26 I have a motion to close from Mr. Maniscalco, second by Mr.
10:14:29 Cohen.
10:14:30 All in favor?
10:14:31 Any opposed?
10:14:32 Mr. Maniscalco, if you would kindly take number 69.
10:14:34 >> I have an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:14:38 and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general
10:14:40 vicinity of 2907 west Bay to Bay Boulevard in the city of
10:14:44 Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section 1
10:14:46 from zoning district classifications PD planned development,
10:14:49 office, business professional, to PD, planned development,
10:14:52 office, business professional residential, multifamily and
10:14:56 restaurant, providing an effective date.
10:14:56 >> Second.
10:14:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Maniscalco.
10:14:59 Second by Mr. Cohen.
10:15:00 Roll call vote.
10:15:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
10:15:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes.
10:15:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
10:15:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes.
10:15:05 >>HARRY COHEN: Yes.
10:15:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Yes.
10:15:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
10:15:09 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:15:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item number 70.
10:15:14 The petitioner is here.
10:15:15 Is there any question from council of petitioner on 70,
10:15:20 development agreement?
10:15:21 Is there anyone in the public to speak on item number 70,
10:15:24 development agreement that goes in hand with item number 69?
10:15:26 I see no one.
10:15:32 We have to close the public hearing.
10:15:34 Okay.
10:15:39 Motion to close from Mr. Reddick.
10:15:40 Second from Mr. Miranda on that motion.
10:15:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Please indicate by saying aye.
10:15:44 Any opposed?
10:15:45 Now, Mr. Reddick, there's a motion for the resolution.
10:15:51 Second by Cohen.
10:15:52 All in favor?
10:15:55 Okay, that's it.
10:15:56 Thank you so much.
10:15:57 We cannot start our 10:30 public hearing which is item
10:15:59 number 71.
10:16:00 We are going to move to staff reports at this time.
10:16:02 Item number 72.
10:16:07 Than we have staff here to talk about this contract.
10:16:10 >> Eric Weiss, wastewater department director, here to
10:16:18 answer any questions you have on this item.
10:16:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Terrific.
10:16:21 Any questions of Mr. Weiss on this item?
10:16:24 Can I get a motion to move the resolution?
10:16:27 Motion from Mr. Miranda.
10:16:28 I have a second from Mr. Reddick.
10:16:30 All in favor of that motion?
10:16:32 Any opposed?
10:16:33 Thank you.
10:16:34 Next up, Mr. Hart.
10:16:40 I thought I saw him come in.
10:16:42 Mr. Hart?
10:16:56 >>GREGORY HART: Manager, small business, minority business
10:16:58 development.
10:17:04 I have as requested a handout to redistribute for your
10:17:12 reference the reports that I provided on May 5th.
10:17:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Hart, before you begin, if I can make a
10:17:55 suggestion.
10:17:56 As part of our motion that is in here, if you have a copy of
10:17:59 that in front of you, it might be good to go through each
10:18:02 one of those individually.
10:18:03 They are numbered.
10:18:05 And number 1, the contracts that are not clear, how that
10:18:11 language can be incorporated in the contract so that it is
10:18:13 more clear on what the expectations are of a contract to
10:18:17 utilize the WMBE and SBLE program.
10:18:23 That's the first question if you could start with that, that
10:18:25 would be great.
10:18:26 >>GREGORY HART: Yes, sir, thank you.
10:18:31 Mr. Reddick.
10:18:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me ask a question to clear the agenda
10:18:35 on one item, and that is, Mr. Hart, we were all handed this
10:18:41 paper today, this morning.
10:18:42 >> I can't hear you.
10:18:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: We were all presented a copy of this paper
10:18:47 here, requesting that you complete and submit to the
10:18:52 council.
10:18:52 Did you receive this?
10:18:56 >>GREGORY HART: I do have a copy of that, yes, sir.
10:18:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: Have you completed it?
10:19:00 We have some information related do that.
10:19:03 We have not completed that as it is presented, no.
10:19:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you intend to complete this?
10:19:10 >>GREGORY HART: We intend to provide information that's
10:19:12 relative to that, yes, sir.
10:19:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: When do you anticipate doing that?
10:19:20 >>GREGORY HART: I assume that will be presented this
10:19:22 morning.
10:19:22 Anything not addressed, we will certainly fill in the gaps.
10:19:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
10:19:26 All right.
10:19:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Is it in the handout?
10:19:34 >> No, it is not.
10:19:37 The information I presented to you this morning.
10:19:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Wait, so we have to fill in the as you
10:19:43 speak?
10:19:44 I mean, if it was done, why don't we have a copy of it in
10:19:48 here?
10:19:53 >>GREGORY HART: What I intend to do first and foremost as
10:19:56 chairman Reddick -- excuse me, chairman Suarez directed us
10:19:59 to respond to your motion, and within that is some
10:20:04 supplemental information that will answer some of that,
10:20:06 perhaps not all of it.
10:20:07 Anything that is not addressed, we can certainly come back
10:20:12 or provide it.
10:20:16 Is the overhead working?
10:20:19 >> Yes.
10:20:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before you go on, Mr. Hart, I want to
10:20:22 clarify.
10:20:22 I think one of the questions that both that I have and that
10:20:26 is part of the motion -- and I think sometimes with our
10:20:30 motions, it's hard to find everything.
10:20:33 I think that the point of the form that was presented to us
10:20:39 by TOBA and the Saturday morning breakfast group was
10:20:42 probably part of the letter that was received and dated May
10:20:46 25th from that organization to us, and that's what's
10:20:51 part of the motion which is later down in the thing.
10:20:55 So I just want to make sure that everyone knows.
10:20:57 I think that he is going to answer it per our motion,
10:21:00 hopefully it's got a lot more information than we have here.
10:21:03 So thank you, Mr. Hart.
10:21:04 I appreciate it.
10:21:10 >>GREGORY HART: Thank you.
10:21:11 And thank you, chairman Suarez.
10:21:13 The first request motion as you stated with the contract,
10:21:19 and goal setting, participation in how the language can be
10:21:22 incorporated into the contract, is more clear on what the
10:21:25 expectations are of the contractors to utilize MBE and small
10:21:30 businesses.
10:21:32 Our response is as follows.
10:21:36 Our office has provided --
10:21:48 Our office provides contract administration and the
10:21:52 purchasing department, which are the two agencies of the
10:21:56 city, the boilerplate contract language and mandatory
10:21:59 minority and small business program forms to be incorporated
10:22:03 into all solicitation documents.
10:22:04 These documents were revised and updated in the second
10:22:08 quarter of 2016 to provide the necessary clarity and
10:22:11 direction to enforce expectations for compliance.
10:22:15 Quickly those forms include MBE 10 which is the schedule of
10:22:21 all subcontract consultants supplies to the city, it
10:22:24 includes MBE 20 which is the schedule of all subcontractors,
10:22:27 consultants, utilized, MBE 30 which is the schedule of all
10:22:31 subcontractors, consultants and supplier payments, MBE 40 is
10:22:36 the show letter of intent, the terminology that you may be
10:22:40 familiar with, which is the document that is required to
10:22:42 execute the final subcontracts with our small and minority
10:22:47 businesses, MBE 50 which is the compliance guidelines, MBE
10:22:52 70 is the guidelines to implement the minority and small
10:22:56 business initiatives, and then included in that would be the
10:23:00 project participation work sheet.
10:23:02 This is the document that conveys the percentage goal
10:23:04 calculated and agreed upon by the goal set committee.
10:23:07 The committee, the city's committee is comprised of
10:23:10 designees from contract administration, purchasing, city
10:23:13 attorney's office, and of course my office.
10:23:18 Lastly, the MBE, SBLE, WMBE subcontracts availability, this
10:23:27 is a detailed spreadsheet providing the company name,
10:23:30 address, federal ID number, certification classification,
10:23:33 e-mail, phone, fax and contact person for all the
10:23:36 subcontractors.
10:23:37 The additional supplemental document is a PDF form which is
10:23:41 provided.
10:23:42 It is the goal setting source list containing the MBE, SBLE
10:23:47 profile data, used to calculate the goals, the past
10:23:51 services, and delineates by subcontract category what is
10:23:55 expected.
10:23:57 Than the subsequent question in that first motion was what
10:24:02 are the ongoing --
10:24:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Go ahead, Mrs. Montelione.
10:24:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Before you go on to the second part, Mr.
10:24:10 Hart.
10:24:11 So these were revised, updated, second quarter, fiscal 2016,
10:24:17 so that was around, after, before the initial motion that hi
10:24:21 made on May 5th?
10:24:23 >>GREGORY HART: I believe so, yes.
10:24:25 Would have been back in January, February.
10:24:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
10:24:28 So when the motion was made on May 5th, we weren't
10:24:33 advised that there were updates or revisions, or at least no
10:24:37 one contacted me since I made the motion to say, you know,
10:24:42 these are the things that have been updated or revised.
10:24:45 So I have a question about the, you know, what it looked
10:24:51 like before and what it looks like now, and how it was
10:24:54 revised.
10:24:54 So it could have been revised, but, you know, rerevise
10:24:59 things with scrivener's errors.
10:25:00 I don't know what was revised or updated or changed to make
10:25:03 the forms that are utilized now better than the ones that
10:25:07 were before.
10:25:09 And then specifically, under the bullet that says project
10:25:14 goals, project work sheet that says the committee is
10:25:18 comprised of designees from contract administration,
10:25:21 purchasing, city attorney, user department, and MBD,
10:25:25 minority business development, your department, there's no
10:25:30 one from the public that's involved to work on that goal
10:25:36 setting committee.
10:25:37 So we have been contacted numerous times.
10:25:40 We have had -- you and I have had discussions over the
10:25:43 years, numerous times.
10:25:48 Why wouldn't anybody from the public or from than the
10:25:53 minority business list of contractors, approved contractors,
10:25:58 certified contractors, why wouldn't they be included in that
10:26:01 goal setting?
10:26:02 And also, wouldn't the EBOAC committee be involved?
10:26:12 Because I don't so them being mentioned here.
10:26:14 >> The goal setting committee is an administrative process.
10:26:18 It includes the subject experts from the various departments
10:26:24 to review material.
10:26:27 It is not a public voting process.
10:26:33 It requires the professional input from the respective
10:26:37 departments.
10:26:37 It's an administrative process.
10:26:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But the ordinance that was passed in
10:26:41 2008 establishing the citizens task force says that they are
10:26:53 representing a cross section of contract, service providers,
10:26:56 was formed to review the disparity study, and their purpose
10:27:03 is city contract -- not reading the whole paragraph, just
10:27:09 the end of it -- city he's contracting and procurement
10:27:12 activities and monitoring to evaluate whether the city has
10:27:15 strong evidence of its need to utilize race and gender
10:27:18 conscious remedies to ensure its compelling interest and not
10:27:22 acting as a passive participant in a discriminatory
10:27:26 marketplace.
10:27:27 So the spirit and gender embodied in the ordinance is to do
10:27:33 that.
10:27:35 >> No, I disagree.
10:27:40 If you read the charter of the committee, it is not charged
10:27:43 with engaging purposefully in city processes or city policy
10:27:50 formulation.
10:27:51 It is to be an advisory entity that is representative of the
10:28:02 committee, that we can share information and get feedback
10:28:05 on.
10:28:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, but that's just the point.
10:28:08 If they are an advisory committee that shares information,
10:28:11 and gets feedback, I think this would be a most appropriate
10:28:15 function for utilization, to get their feedback on what the
10:28:22 goals are, and goal setting.
10:28:25 So that you have individuals who have given of their time to
10:28:30 volunteer to serve in an advisory committee, but when you
10:28:36 are setting goals and looking for advice, you are not
10:28:40 looking for them.
10:28:42 You are only looking to internal developments.
10:28:44 And I think that's perhaps a disservice to the people who
10:28:47 volunteer their time to sit on this committee.
10:28:54 And perhaps I'll follow that up with a motion later on.
10:28:58 And the only other thing I have a question on this
10:29:00 particular item that's in front of us here on the Elmo is
10:29:06 that the official letter of intent, it says to execute
10:29:13 subcontracts with WMBE and SBLEs, but does that cover
10:29:20 everybody?
10:29:21 Or just those two groups?
10:29:26 Women and minority business enterprises and small local
10:29:31 business enterprises.
10:29:40 >> >>GREGORY HART: The small business and women minority
10:29:42 business program is charged with focusing on businesses that
10:29:46 are certified.
10:29:48 So what's before you is directed and targeted towards those
10:29:55 small businesses and minority businesses that are certified.
10:29:58 That's what our initiatives are designed to provide benefit.
10:30:18 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilwoman Montelione, is that it?
10:30:26 Are there any additional questions from council members?
10:30:35 I'm just asking.
10:30:36 >> The second question from council embedded in their motion
10:30:44 is what outreach efforts the department gives themselves and
10:30:49 what outreach efforts are outlined and affect a contractor
10:30:53 and how that is documented.
10:30:56 Our response is as follows.
10:30:59 Our outreach is designed to facilitate prime contractors
10:31:03 success as achieving the MBE-SBLE goals.
10:31:09 These are the key outreach initiatives, if you will.
10:31:15 And determines what companies are certified.
10:31:17 That's your availability data.
10:31:18 That's your availability pool.
10:31:20 That can be aligned with the subcontract tab specified in
10:31:23 the project work study.
10:31:27 A contract list is developed, and an XL format containing
10:31:34 all pertinent information for available contractors for
10:31:38 direct solicitation by our office and the prime contractor.
10:31:44 Inquiries are often conducted to gauge contractor capacity
10:31:44 and interest in bidding. We also use electronic
10:31:50 notification, that would be your Demand Star wire system,
10:31:55 and that's used to maximize subcontractors.
10:32:00 We also facilitate conferences and provide an overview of
10:32:04 the project goal details, and we outline the actions
10:32:08 required of the prime contractor to achieve goals through
10:32:13 result oriented good faith efforts.
10:32:15 Also, the outreach staff requires prime contractors outlined
10:32:20 on MBE form 50, in a which is included in the packet.
10:32:26 The prime documentation on form 50 and attached as
10:32:30 information to substantiate their efforts.
10:32:33 We perform audit, subcontractor survey and compliance
10:32:39 certifications.
10:32:39 Your packet includes examples of those contract compliance
10:32:43 evaluations.
10:32:45 The third question under the council motion is as follows,
10:32:50 quote, to provide council members with the document entitled
10:32:54 Tampa City Council handout, and discuss some of the things
10:32:59 that we have done better in order to increase the
10:33:01 participation.
10:33:03 Our response, we provided the additional copies of the May
10:33:06 5th handout.
10:33:08 The following are initiatives that we engage in to improve
10:33:15 in and increase participation.
10:33:18 Contract initiatives were developed in fiscal year 2012 to
10:33:21 specifically address deficiencies in city policies and
10:33:24 procedures and to increase participation.
10:33:28 And if you would, you can refer to your exhibit B which is
10:33:31 titled WMBE, SBLE initiatives, economic developments,
10:33:37 inclusion.
10:33:38 Secondly, the procurement processes and the MBE, SB outreach
10:33:43 rule were submitted city-wide for direct target
10:33:48 participation for specific ethnic, gender, underutilized
10:33:51 businesses.
10:33:52 And you can refer to exhibit D titled procurement guidelines
10:33:56 to implement MW-WMBE initiatives.
10:34:03 It's maximized with application of selective MBE procurement
10:34:07 mandates.
10:34:08 Mandates that direct the bid proposal to be solicited using
10:34:13 optimal MBE provisions.
10:34:17 And if you refer to exhibit E, it outlines them.
10:34:21 Another would be that MBE program pushes the NFL with goal
10:34:28 setting.
10:34:28 Our benchmark was 50th thousand.
10:34:30 Most programs do not consider setting goals unless the value
10:34:34 is much higher.
10:34:36 We are pushing the NFL.
10:34:38 A lot of agencies, unless that value is 200, 250,000, they
10:34:43 don't even consider subcontract goals.
10:34:45 We consider them at 50,000.
10:34:47 The City of Tampa also requires a minimum of two certified
10:34:51 companies in order to include those certified companies in
10:34:55 the goal calculation, rather than three.
10:34:59 The standard is three.
10:35:01 Again, we increased the envelope.
10:35:05 Right on the edge there by saying if we have two or more
10:35:08 certified with the requisite skills to do subcontracting, we
10:35:11 include them in the goal.
10:35:13 Most agencies, it's three.
10:35:17 We are right on the cutting edge there.
10:35:19 MBE utilizes the procurement process across all industry
10:35:24 categories of procurement, whereas most agencies limit their
10:35:28 sheltering to a selective service or commodity.
10:35:31 We do it across the board.
10:35:33 You will find that a lot of agencies will only do it for
10:35:36 certain trades or categories.
10:35:38 Again, we push the envelope.
10:35:44 The last, I believe, question under your council motion
10:35:48 request was to have me review and discuss how the
10:35:53 administration can respond or change policy per the
10:35:57 suggestions and points in the letter dated May 25th,
10:36:00 2016, and distributed by the Tampa organization of black
10:36:04 affairs regarding diversity, equity, fairness and inclusion.
10:36:08 Our review of that letter concluded that the minority
10:36:16 development office's authority and purview does not extend
10:36:18 to formulation of city policy cited in that letter.
10:36:23 For example, there was reference performance management
10:36:26 agreement evaluation.
10:36:27 There was a reference to procurement policy, industry
10:36:29 guidelines, city charter and law.
10:36:33 There's reference to local preference, which is generally
10:36:36 prohibited and typically requires federal review.
10:36:39 A change in term of the good faith effort.
10:36:46 We submitted a report on June 23rd to express our
10:36:48 position to any research we have done regarding that, and we
10:36:52 did not recommend change.
10:36:53 There was reference to creating new position and/or
10:36:56 classification.
10:36:59 Those suggestions are not in the purview of our office.
10:37:03 It is an administrative category of consideration.
10:37:25 With regard to the cumulative payment history that was
10:37:29 requested, I have cumulative level bird's-eye view of what
10:37:46 payment history looks like.
10:37:52 Before I highlight some of this information, I would like to
10:37:54 remind and inform and advise the public that numerous years
10:38:00 of data can be found on the city's website under our office
10:38:08 subwebsite with regard to annual award information and
10:38:13 disparate analysis as relates to payment data.
10:38:18 I believe that information is there up to fiscal year 2014.
10:38:24 2015 data is being presented to the administration and
10:38:30 department for final review and comment.
10:38:34 Subsequently, we will be providing to council.
10:38:40 What I would like to highlight here is that we are looking
10:38:45 at payment data.
10:38:47 The request was, what does the payment history look like to
10:38:51 WMBE, women and minority firms, and to some extent small
10:38:56 business firms?
10:38:59 Please be mindful that contracts extend over multiple years.
10:39:05 This is like a financial report.
10:39:07 I could compile this next week and it could be totally
10:39:11 different, because payments and invoices continue to come
10:39:15 into the city, which in terms on the part of the financial
10:39:21 report.
10:39:21 We may have WMBE participation for example that may be 20%
10:39:26 of a contract, depending on the contract, WMBE
10:39:31 participation, may not be accounted for until the second
10:39:37 year of the contract.
10:39:38 I just wanted to put this in perspective.
10:39:48 In terms of WM BE contract participation, American-owned
10:39:53 company represents 25.6% of all dollars paid from certified,
10:40:00 women and minority.
10:40:04 As you go down here you can see the respective ethnic gender
10:40:09 groups and their participation in terms of actual dollars
10:40:10 that went into their pocket in relation to what was received
10:40:15 by all certified firms.
10:40:19 In relation to the contractors, I have the same information
10:40:24 by ethnicity, African-American-owned businesses, in relation
10:40:29 to all dollars received by subcontractors, certified by the
10:40:33 City of Tampa, African-American businesses received 17% of
10:40:37 those dollars.
10:40:41 Cumulatively, with those subcontract and prime contracts,
10:40:47 We have an overall WMBE program level of participation of
10:40:55 9%, of $26 million.
10:41:00 If you are interested, just as a footnote, in the SLBE
10:41:13 program --
10:41:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before you go forward, could you put that
10:41:17 graphic up again?
10:41:18 I have a very quick question.
10:41:19 On the top to the prime WMBE businesses, prime contractors,
10:41:24 I assume that's what it means by prime, correct?
10:41:26 >> Yes, sir.
10:41:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You have on there WMBE, 1 loon betters of
10:41:31 all the ones that are above that, correct?
10:41:34 >> >>GREGORY HART: That is correct.
10:41:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I want to make sure, because when you are
10:41:36 looking at the number it kind of seems to be a mix and match
10:41:39 and might be a little bit, you know, unwieldily to figure
10:41:43 out what that means.
10:41:44 The second one under the total, it looks like of the grand
10:41:48 total of prime contractors, 191 million that I am looking
10:41:55 at?
10:41:57 >> That is correct.
10:41:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That 12 million 3 hundred and some change
10:42:00 thousand, it's only 6.42% of all prime contractors that are
10:42:06 WMBE contractors.
10:42:09 Correct?
10:42:10 >>GREGORY HART: That 6% of the 191 million.
10:42:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's my point.
10:42:15 >> Minorities and everyone else.
10:42:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And the 6% is based on those that are above
10:42:20 that.
10:42:21 And I think you have black business enterprises, women,
10:42:24 Hispanic, Native American, Asian-American, and the total of
10:42:30 all those above.
10:42:31 >> That's correct.
10:42:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The confusing part is what prime contractors
10:42:34 are versus subcontractors and obviously we have more
10:42:40 subcontractors that bid out part of a larger prime
10:42:44 contractors.
10:42:45 And so I wanted to make sure that we got those numbers
10:42:48 correct.
10:42:48 >> That is correct.
10:42:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:42:51 I wanted to make sure we knew that.
10:42:53 You have a handout for all of us so we can have it in front
10:42:55 of us?
10:42:56 If not I think we can have somebody cone it for you.
10:43:00 >> >>GREGORY HART: That would be fine.
10:43:01 >> That would be great.
10:43:03 Thank you.
10:43:28 >> Also with the request for information there was a request
10:43:30 to the city budget in terms of what's available for
10:43:35 contracting with small minority-owned businesses.
10:43:40 And some of the information I want to share with you.
10:43:46 Competitively awarded contracts is the basis of any analysis
10:43:53 of participation by minority, women and small business
10:43:57 firms.
10:43:59 Budgeted items that are earmarked are debt service,
10:44:03 personnel services, mention -- emergencies and so forth are
10:44:10 not considered competitively available to be awarded to any
10:44:17 contractor, and therefore it's not a consideration when we
10:44:24 set goals, or we evaluate what in realistic procurement
10:44:31 terms is available and on the table for the general public,
10:44:34 inclusive of minority and small businesses.
10:44:41 To give you some indication of what I mean by that, there
10:44:48 were requests to look at the city's budget over the last
10:44:52 several years.
10:44:52 And I would just like to highlight for you that there was a
10:44:57 reference, for example, that the city budget was $990
10:45:00 million for the fiscal year.
10:45:05 Well, that's correct and that happened to be fiscal year
10:45:07 2012.
10:45:11 We don't take that $990 million and say there should be some
10:45:16 absolute percent that the city pays based on that whole
10:45:22 number because 370 million, 37% of that budget is
10:45:25 unavailable for contracting.
10:45:28 You have debt service.
10:45:30 Another 50 million, for example.
10:45:32 45 million.
10:45:33 You have grants-in-aid.
10:45:35 You have other uses.
10:45:37 My point simply is, typically -- and I am drawing on my
10:45:45 memory -- the last ten years, the dollars available for
10:45:50 contracting in a competitive process were more like 77
10:46:00 million.
10:46:01 And then based on that 77 million, how much of it resulted
10:46:08 in contracts and had scopes of work that aligned with the
10:46:13 discipline, the experience, the capacity of our minority and
10:46:17 small business firms.
10:46:21 So I wanted to couch this in perspective.
10:46:25 When we look at an opportunity, we push the envelope.
10:46:28 We maximize what's in that procurement to ensure that our
10:46:32 certified firms have an opportunity.
10:46:35 And I have a sheet laid out exactly like this for each
10:46:41 fiscal year to go through.
10:46:50 Again, if you look at fiscal year 2013, total budget,
10:46:55 capital operating budget, approximately $1 million, but
10:46:59 again look at what has to come off the table.
10:47:03 Almost 400 million for personnel.
10:47:06 You have debt service, et cetera, et cetera.
10:47:08 I just wanted to put everything in perspective.
10:47:11 You cannot take a budget and say we want 5%, we want 10%.
10:47:15 It's not based on population.
10:47:18 It's based on the eligibilities, the certification, and the
10:47:25 trade and disciplines for which you have been approved in
10:47:29 your license to engage in, and then whether or not the city
10:47:32 is procuring products and services that align with your
10:47:37 credentials.
10:47:43 Again, I have a couple of others if you care to work with
10:47:48 that and I have copies of that as well.
10:47:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions?
10:47:52 Mrs. Montelione.
10:47:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is there a more recent?
10:47:55 That's 2012?
10:47:57 How about last year?
10:47:59 The most recent one you have.
10:48:02 >>GREGORY HART: I have 2015.
10:48:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: There we go.
10:48:09 >>GREGORY HART: And then this I will station, 1.2 million,
10:48:11 operating capital, about 4700 million in personnel services.
10:48:18 83 million.
10:48:20 As you can see going down the line.
10:48:23 Budget reserves, 47 million.
10:48:26 And these are all approximations.
10:48:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:48:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione.
10:48:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I have a couple of questions.
10:48:39 So I have just been wondering why, if all this information
10:48:42 was available to you, why not put it on this form and then
10:48:49 reduce the number of questions that the public has, and that
10:48:56 council has?
10:48:57 >>GREGORY HART: Well, Mrs. Montelione, all that information
10:48:59 is on the website.
10:49:00 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I understand that.
10:49:04 >>GREGORY HART: However anyone wants to compile and slice
10:49:06 and dice it, it's there for them to have do that.
10:49:10 I think the answer simply is that there's a lot of
10:49:13 information, as you well know.
10:49:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, no, I know that.
10:49:17 I am just asking why you didn't translate the information to
10:49:19 the form that was provided.
10:49:23 >>GREGORY HART: I'm providing the same information, and how
10:49:26 our office has it compiled, and catalogued and recorded.
10:49:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
10:49:34 If that's all you have, I would like to make a motion.
10:49:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me ask you if there's any other
10:49:39 questions of council.
10:49:40 Any questions from anyone else of Mr. Hart?
10:49:48 Mrs. Montelione.
10:49:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:49:50 This is one of the rare instances where a department charge
10:49:56 and their purpose, the program is actually codified.
10:50:01 So since City Council has the purview of our code of
10:50:07 ordinances, and we have, to my knowledge, I don't think we
10:50:13 have of we have changed this ordinance since it was signed
10:50:19 by Mayor Iorio in 2008.
10:50:23 I would propose that the legal department work with Mr. Hart
10:50:31 and with the public, specifically TOBA, but there are other
10:50:35 organizations, the women and business organizations that
10:50:38 have numerous members, there's women in construction,
10:50:45 there's a lot of organizations out there that have members
10:50:50 who are in the minority contracting business.
10:50:56 And I would specifically -- and not limited to look at the
10:51:01 provisions contained within the ordinance, section --
10:51:15 different sections.
10:51:16 I am not going to be specific because there's language
10:51:18 filtered throughout the ordinance.
10:51:20 But to work through the current ordinance, and to include
10:51:25 the members of the EBOAC, the Equal Business Opportunity
10:51:34 Advisory Council, is what it stands for, but to work with
10:51:39 the members of the EBOAC to revise or propose
10:51:43 recommendations for revisions to ordinance number 2008-89,
10:51:48 and to propose revisions to the accompanying equal business
10:51:54 opportunity program.
10:51:57 There are several sections that I have highlighted, one of
10:52:01 which is, just when you had put in your notes there, the
10:52:05 administrative authority, powers and duties, section 26.5-3,
10:52:11 section 5, which states that City Council and the EBOAC is
10:52:18 to have a presentation by the administration on a semiannual
10:52:24 basis, and number 7 which states recommend annual goal for
10:52:28 SLBE and WMBE prime and subcontract utilization and report
10:52:33 such recommendations to City Council for approval.
10:52:36 I'm not sure that those goals -- I'm not sure if we have had
10:52:54 an deep dive within the goals of the public as we have had
10:52:56 this year.
10:52:57 There's the goal setting committee outlined in section
10:52:59 26.5-23, and defined just as you said in your report who are
10:53:05 the members of your committee.
10:53:07 So I would like to have that language looked at to add to
10:53:12 who is going to be on that goal setting committee.
10:53:17 And like I said, I don't want to put out too many specifics
10:53:22 because I don't want the general review and updating of this
10:53:26 ordinance to be defined by the things I'm asking for.
10:53:29 I would prefer it to be defined by the things that we have
10:53:33 committees charged with doing so.
10:53:36 So that's my motion.
10:53:38 And it is -- probably going to be a lengthy process so I am
10:53:42 not going to ask for that to be back next month.
10:53:46 But if I have my calendar here --
10:53:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you want to do it during a regular
10:53:53 session, a workshop session, then I would suggest -- I was
10:54:00 going to --
10:54:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: October 27th.
10:54:08 Is that our next workshop?
10:54:11 We don't have one before that?
10:54:14 >>HARRY COHEN: There is one in September, but --
10:54:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would ask for that to be on September
10:54:23 22nd during the workshop session at 9 a.m.
10:54:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before we go forward on a second, did you
10:54:29 get the entire motion?
10:54:30 >>THE CLERK: [Off microphone.]
10:54:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I didn't want to make it specific.
10:54:36 The motion is to have the legal department work with the
10:54:40 administration, namely Mr. Hart's division, and with the
10:54:44 public, with the EBOAC, to develop recommendations to revise
10:54:51 ordinance number 2008-89.
10:54:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:54:56 We have a motion by Mrs. Montelione.
10:54:57 Do I have a second?
10:54:58 I have a second from Mr. Reddick.
10:55:00 Any questions or comments about the motion before we go
10:55:02 forward?
10:55:03 In not, all in favor of that motion, please indicate by
10:55:05 saying aye.
10:55:06 Any opposed?
10:55:08 Thank you.
10:55:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, council members.
10:55:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Hart, you have something?
10:55:14 >>GREGORY HART: If I may.
10:55:14 I appreciate the motion.
10:55:17 I think it has some value.
10:55:18 However, the process may be much lengthier than what you
10:55:27 have framed in terms of a September meeting date.
10:55:30 The reason I say that is, any ordinance that's going to be
10:55:33 revised or dictate a program has to be considered on the
10:55:39 basis of a disparity study, disparity analysis, and requires
10:55:46 in-depth input, conversation, EBOAC and others.
10:55:54 I don't want to raise expectations that -- we'll come back
10:55:56 in September, but I don't know exactly what percent of the
10:56:02 process we'll have some their with you.
10:56:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's why we are having a workshop session,
10:56:08 so we can hash out whatever are some of the restrictions,
10:56:12 the problems, and what the process is, so we can move
10:56:15 forward and maybe help clarify some of this, because we are
10:56:18 looking at numbers that we want to increase.
10:56:22 And so we are trying to figure out if there's a way to be do
10:56:27 it through our ordinance.
10:56:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I was going to say the same thing.
10:56:31 That's why we have workshop sessions.
10:56:33 And that's why I wanted to have a workshop session in the
10:56:35 past, so we decided to put it on a staff report item.
10:56:41 So I was hoping that we would be part way through that
10:56:45 process by now.
10:56:46 Thank you.
10:56:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:56:48 Anything else, Mr. Hart?
10:56:50 >> >>GREGORY HART: No, sir.
10:56:50 Thank you very much.
10:56:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much for peering.
10:56:52 Before we go over to item number 75, let us -- we have one
10:56:58 item that we need to open, which is item number 71.
10:57:01 >> Move to open item number 71.
10:57:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do I have a second?
10:57:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Oh, second.
10:57:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
10:57:12 Second by Mrs. Capin.
10:57:13 All in favor of that motion?
10:57:14 Any opposed?
10:57:15 Is there anyone here to appear before for number 71? They
10:57:21 need to be sworn in.
10:57:25 If the clerk could swear in anyone that's going to speak on
10:57:27 item number 71.
10:57:28 Is there anyone here to speak on that? I think we have one
10:57:31 person here.
10:57:33 I understand it but she needs to be sworn in.
10:57:38 (Oath administered by Clerk).
10:57:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you are going to speak on this item, if
10:57:46 you are asking for a continuance?
10:57:49 >> Yes.
10:57:49 I'm Sue Mosley, 501 west Euclid Avenue, and I'm requesting a
10:57:53 continuance.
10:57:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
10:57:54 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:57:57 item number 71 on the continuance only?
10:57:59 I see no one.
10:58:06 Move to continue to September 15th at 10:30 a.m.
10:58:10 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
10:58:12 I have a second by Mrs. Capin.
10:58:13 All in favor of that motion?
10:58:16 Any opposed?
10:58:17 Thank you.
10:58:20 Sue Murphy: Thank you.
10:58:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have item number 75.
10:58:24 >>JAN MCLEAN: Office of city attorney here orphan item
10:58:31 number 75.
10:58:32 A list of questions posed by Mr. Miranda asking that I
10:58:36 return with the answers to the questions, specifically
10:58:40 regarding the mitigation credit policy that a place to our
10:58:45 stormwater assessment program.
10:58:46 Waive done is, the first three questions can be addressed by
10:58:52 one answer.
10:58:53 So the first question is why is the amount of mitigation
10:58:57 credit in policy quotations and not in answer ordinance and
10:59:02 why can't it be put in the ordinance?
10:59:04 And what was the basis for the 10% in the policy?
10:59:08 It's been the same 10% since the original stormwater fee was
10:59:12 adopted but they raised or at least reevaluate the credit
10:59:17 percentage.
10:59:19 The policy was adopted by resolution at the time of the
10:59:22 implementation of the stormwater utility.
10:59:26 As we have done in the past, we created the stormwater by an
10:59:38 ordinance, but allows flexibility for the council to come
10:59:40 back without having to open up the ordinance and do any kind
10:59:45 of updates based on technique, methodologies, anything, a
10:59:50 new study, that what the mitigation policy is.
10:59:56 For instance, the 100% as identified in the policy right
11:00:00 now, and that's how we have been implementing it.
11:00:03 There's some significant questions over the course of last
11:00:06 year, especially motivated by the improvement assessment,
11:00:10 that that credit policy be looked at.
11:00:12 We came back and we clarified the process, which is included
11:00:16 in the ordinance, but not the policy with regard to the 10
11:00:21 or the 100%.
11:00:28 Beings it should be done on an very thoughtful basis where
11:00:31 we could defend it because it reduces the amount of revenue
11:00:34 that is allowed from the imposition of the assessment.
11:00:41 So that would address your questions 1, 2 and 3.
11:00:45 Would you like me to gone through it, or stop for questions?
11:00:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do you need more clarification from her on
11:00:54 this?
11:00:54 Any other questions?
11:00:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: First let me say thank you to her, Jan
11:01:02 McLean, for being very upfront, and I'll let you finish and
11:01:08 then I'll speak.
11:01:08 >>JAN MCLEAN: The fourth question is what is the basis for
11:01:12 the amount of the credit?
11:01:13 At the time that the stormwater utility was created, therein
11:01:19 was an evaluation of what the city had been doing, because
11:01:23 remember, that was a service assessment.
11:01:26 That was all we had in place right now.
11:01:28 So we come back on an annual basis, and you adopt the
11:01:32 assessment.
11:01:33 We have 10%.
11:01:34 We have 100%.
11:01:36 And at that time, in 2003, that's what was calculated, if
11:01:42 you retain everything on-site, and obviously you were not a
11:01:45 burden to the city system, you got 100% mitigation credit.
11:01:48 The 10% was allocated based on what the city expended for
11:01:54 the maintenance -- maintenance of ponds at the time in 2003.
11:01:59 There are other methods that you can achieve the 10%.
11:02:04 For instance, if you pay to an entity that maintains the
11:02:08 ponds in your subdivision, then you get a 10% credit because
11:02:13 you are paying somebody to maintain the pond and the city
11:02:16 doesn't maintain it.
11:02:17 So in the policy, those are spelled out.
11:02:22 And those are the basis for the current 10% and 100%.
11:02:28 Number 5 question, should it be based on the quantity and
11:02:32 quality of the mitigation firm, so better ponds reduce the
11:02:37 burden on the city system?
11:02:39 Assuming that's correct -- and that's kind of a mix of legal
11:02:42 and engineering -- it could be.
11:02:46 It could be.
11:02:47 We could do a study.
11:02:48 We could identify -- obviously technology has improved,
11:02:54 different methods have been used from 2003 to 2016, and we
11:02:58 could identify, and there are other jurisdictions that do
11:03:02 have increased allocation of the credit.
11:03:06 So, for example, if you have a lined pond that doesn't allow
11:03:10 anything -- and this is where I am going into engineering,
11:03:13 so I am sure my stormwater engineers are cringing, but if
11:03:17 you have a pond that doesn't allow for the percolation of
11:03:21 the water so you can't actually improve the water quality
11:03:26 you might not get as much credit as opposed to another pond
11:03:29 that allows the treatment of that water once it's in the
11:03:32 pond.
11:03:33 Off the top of my head.
11:03:35 So the answer to the question is, yes, you could.
11:03:38 As long as it has some basis on why we would allocate the
11:03:42 credit, in that manner.
11:03:46 Number 6, should the credit amount be the same for the
11:03:50 capital improvement fee and the maintenance fee?
11:03:53 We have in a capital improvement fee.
11:03:55 We do have one, just high pressure a public hearing to
11:03:59 consider in September the proposed capital improvement fee.
11:04:02 But the answer is, yes, when we came back, and we came
11:04:08 before you last year, the mitigation credit policy would be
11:04:11 applied to both, in an equal manner, and the criteria is the
11:04:17 same for improvement, and if it's approved this year it
11:04:20 would be applied likewise.
11:04:28 TV next question is how can anyone receive 100% credit?
11:04:31 As indicated earlier, you receive 100% credit if you place
11:04:34 no burden on the city's system.
11:04:36 You retain all of your water on-site, then we don't charge
11:04:41 you for the stormwater assessment because we are not having
11:04:45 to do the maintenance or address the water quality of that.
11:04:50 So that's how you receive 100% credit.
11:04:58 Shouldn't they pay for a portion of the improvement, for
11:05:05 that improved road they drive on?
11:05:07 And there's some support for that question.
11:05:12 When the stormwater utility was created in 2003, and I
11:05:17 wasn't here, but I looked at all of the records, and you
11:05:20 carry the red book Bible which contains all the documents
11:05:24 from them, roads were not included for a part of each
11:05:31 parcel.
11:05:31 It's part of the stormwater system.
11:05:33 So, for instance, if you kept property A kept all of the
11:05:38 stormwater on-site, we still maintain the road.
11:05:44 And you could, hypothetically, assess each property a base
11:05:50 charge for the maintenance of the road.
11:05:54 That's a whole different system.
11:05:55 It's a whole different a -- fee what assessment.
11:05:59 That's not the way our fee assessment is set up.
11:06:01 It based on the ESUs that you contribute into the system.
11:06:05 So if you wanted to change something like that, we would
11:06:08 have to look at the entire fee assessment structure.
11:06:23 I think that addresses most of the questions -- I mean, all
11:06:27 of the questions.
11:06:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:06:31 I wasn't here in 2003, I don't believe.
11:06:34 I was here but not here.
11:06:36 That's the Cuban double talk.
11:06:38 But what I am saying is this.
11:06:39 I believe that 2003, although I didn't vote on it, I
11:06:44 remember it, and that was mainly for big area shopping
11:06:50 centers by square foot.
11:06:52 That's one that we addressed that we did one on the outside
11:06:57 without the homes being included.
11:06:58 >>JAN MCLEAN: 2003 stormwater fee was created with the same
11:07:03 assessments, process that you are using now.
11:07:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Although I understand what you are
11:07:09 saying legally, I believe that the 10% has something to do
11:07:15 with the bonding of it so you can have flexibility soap
11:07:18 those who may buy the city bonds, how certain they are going
11:07:22 to get paid.
11:07:23 That's just my feeling.
11:07:24 >> We don't --
11:07:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I understand that.
11:07:27 >> I just want to interrupt that we don't bond the services.
11:07:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I understand that.
11:07:32 But what we are talking about in the future, what we are
11:07:35 trying to do, there are certain areas of the city that will
11:07:40 pay nothing for this because they keep everything, all the
11:07:48 water and everything in their system and I understand that.
11:07:50 The problem is they use the same road that floods that
11:07:53 everybody else uses.
11:07:57 They may not flood, but in other words they are using the
11:07:59 same roadworks that all of us were use, in theory what you
11:08:02 just spoke about.
11:08:07 I voted in the past -- and I know this was not debatable, I
11:08:10 don't think we have anything today in the past or the
11:08:14 future, but I supported most everything that came before us
11:08:20 in a long, long period of time, from the streetcar to 30
11:08:25 million for roads to park for 37 million for one park, to
11:08:31 increase the water rates, to increase, every system in solid
11:08:36 waste because they need it.
11:08:38 But there's a time and place where you have to look at it
11:08:41 and say, what's reality, and what am I doing to my citizens?
11:08:46 But that's not for debate today.
11:08:48 So I am satisfied with the questions and the answers that
11:08:50 you gave.
11:08:51 However, there's one thing I would like to add,
11:08:54 Mr. Chairman.
11:08:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes, sir.
11:08:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You and I had a dialogue, and AP very
11:08:58 good one, and in your letter to me, you said review the
11:09:04 mitigation credit policy, my recommendation would be to
11:09:06 direct us to do during the first council meeting in March
11:09:11 with a report including recommendation, any suggestion and
11:09:14 revision.
11:09:15 What I would like to add is that that be changed, and one
11:09:19 thing, that the mitigation policy recommendation be directed
11:09:21 to return to the first meeting in August and a report
11:09:26 including the recommendations, any suggestions, would be in
11:09:29 March.
11:09:32 >> I'm sorry, could you say that again?
11:09:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: In August, to return to us the direct --
11:09:41 to direct any recommendations that would be -- in other
11:09:44 words, like the Sarasota County that you were so kind when
11:09:48 we had a discussion, that you have given me that I haven't
11:09:52 had a chance to read it yet, those and other areas that may
11:09:55 have the same type of policy but.
11:09:57 Been looked at by this council.
11:09:59 You might have done it but we haven't seen it, that -- and
11:10:03 I'm not questioning your ability to read and understand, but
11:10:09 at the first council meeting in March be the recommendation
11:10:11 directed council meeting to report, and then the
11:10:15 recommendations would come in March.
11:10:18 The implementation.
11:10:19 The recommendations now in August, and the implementation if
11:10:22 any in March.
11:10:24 Because March is a long time away.
11:10:28 That's next year.
11:10:31 I don't know if you have the time to do that.
11:10:33 I really don't.
11:10:33 >>JAN MCLEAN: Whatever the council directs us, we will do.
11:10:38 The reason that I suggested ma March is because to do that
11:10:44 study and bring back well thought-out recommendations.
11:10:46 I know that the council had questions on how this would be
11:10:51 implemented, and the 100%, the 10%.
11:10:56 So in August we would bring you that examples of other
11:11:00 mitigation credit policies, and then we would studies we
11:11:08 would suggest be implemented with any recommendations in
11:11:10 March.
11:11:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
11:11:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And that's in the form of a motion, Mr.
11:11:13 Miranda?
11:11:14 >> Yes, sir.
11:11:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And a second from Mr. Cohen.
11:11:18 Do you want to do that on August 25th?
11:11:20 Looks like we have a little bit -- on August 25th under
11:11:23 staff reports.
11:11:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Of what you want, Mr. Chairman.
11:11:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All in favor of that particular motion
11:11:29 indicate by saying aye.
11:11:30 Any opposed?
11:11:30 Are there any other questions of Ms. McLean?
11:11:33 I have one comment of Mrs. McLean.
11:11:39 And we had this conversation last week, I believe, maybe --
11:11:42 I think it was last week.
11:11:44 My days are running together after vacation.
11:11:46 And there has to be -- and I think that this is something
11:11:51 that I have emphasized every time we talked about the
11:11:53 mitigation credit -- we have to have a process that is both
11:11:59 open, fair and doable for someone who go ahead and build or
11:12:04 rebuild and repurpose their property to make them more
11:12:08 amenable to less runoff into our system.
11:12:15 By doing that, it will have less pressure on our system.
11:12:17 Less pressure on our system means we aren't going to get as
11:12:20 much assessment if we get a mitigation credit, but
11:12:23 conversely it should have less of a burden on us so we won't
11:12:26 have to worry about what that dollar amount is.
11:12:30 I think that we don't do enough in government to actually
11:12:34 figure out how we can make people's ability to build or
11:12:39 rebuild a better process so that they don't have to pay as
11:12:42 much investment but they are putting it into their own
11:12:46 property.
11:12:46 That makes it valuable to them and actually relieves us the
11:12:50 pressure of having to provide more stormwater relieve.
11:12:53 I know that there are other technologies out there much more
11:12:57 than there were in 2003 that we can probably look at to
11:13:00 suggest and put together a list of them.
11:13:04 Not suggesting that you have it done by August 25th, but
11:13:07 that's definitely something that we need to actually
11:13:09 concentrate on.
11:13:10 This is not your responsibility per se.
11:13:12 That's going to be engineering, and we are going to have Ms.
11:13:17 Duncan up in a moment, and she can talk a little bit about
11:13:20 how it affect streets and other things, but in addition we
11:13:23 need to talk to everyone else in the public works department
11:13:26 to find out what can we do to actually suggest these ways of
11:13:33 building and changing the ways that they do things in order
11:13:36 for them to get some kind of mitigation credit.
11:13:38 So that's my charge to you, is if that is something that is
11:13:44 doable.
11:13:44 I would like that to be something that you continually think
11:13:46 about.
11:13:48 Okay, any other questions or comments from council?
11:13:53 Thank you very much, Mrs. McLean.
11:13:54 We appreciate it.
11:13:56 Next up we have item number 76.
11:13:57 And that is Mrs. Duncan.
11:13:59 I mentioned your name but not in vain.
11:14:01 Here you are.
11:14:15 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Transportation and stormwater services.
11:14:18 I do have a Power Point, brief Power Point presentation for
11:14:23 you this morning, and I have got a paper copy of that as
11:14:25 well, if you would like that.
11:14:55 I'm here with Ed Johnson this morning, CRA manager of East
11:14:59 Tampa.
11:14:59 I have worked with ed on this particular project and many
11:15:02 other projects in the East Tampa area.
11:15:07 You asked for an update on this project that we have
11:15:12 underway.
11:15:12 It is what we call the last project with the Department of
11:15:20 Transportation
11:15:24 The limits of this project extend all the way from Columbus
11:15:27 Drive to Hillsborough Avenue.
11:15:30 This is a key corridor within the East Tampa community, key
11:15:34 corridor for transportation network, generally a two-Lane
11:15:38 road, up to about 26th Avenue, a 4-Lane divided roadway,
11:15:46 and we have been working together with CRA to see how we can
11:15:49 improve safety and also provide some incentive opportunities
11:15:53 to create a better realm for the corridor, bring in more
11:15:59 interest in the economic development opportunities.
11:16:05 This particular corridor came to our attention because there
11:16:08 were quite a few accidents, severe accidents in a short
11:16:12 period of time.
11:16:14 We took a look at our accident data, and this is just a
11:16:17 little extract from the data we get.
11:16:20 Basically wanted to make the point that this is higher than
11:16:23 the normal corridor.
11:16:25 We had 14 severe or fatal crashes in the last three years.
11:16:30 Nine of those had an incapacitating injury.
11:16:33 Five were fatal.
11:16:41 And about half of those are occurring at the intersection
11:16:44 where there's most conflict of vehicles interacting with
11:16:47 each other.
11:16:48 So obviously, as we are quite familiar, speeding is the main
11:16:53 reason that we are seeing contributing factors to these
11:16:58 crashes.
11:16:58 As I said, more than half are occurring at the
11:17:01 intersections.
11:17:02 We had seven pedestrians and two bicycles involved in those
11:17:06 crashes.
11:17:10 And so the opportunities that we have to reduce intersection
11:17:17 crashes is to construct around about.
11:17:19 We had quite a few discussion was the CRA about this type of
11:17:22 treatment, and I do say that we are researching many more
11:17:28 roundabouts throughout our cities in Florida.
11:17:30 Eights priority of the Department of Transportation to start
11:17:32 building them on state highways, and we are doing the same
11:17:38 with our city streets.
11:17:40 We have lots of information, we created extreme significant
11:17:45 safety impacts, and they do have anesthetic opportunity as
11:17:48 well with landscaping to be put in the center.
11:17:51 So we have three roundabouts proposed along this corridor.
11:17:54 One at 271st street, one at Lake Avenue, and one at
11:17:57 Osborne.
11:17:58 Currently, lake and Osborne are signalized.
11:18:01 We have a two-way stop at 21st street.
11:18:06 We also are proposing to road diet portions of the corridor
11:18:12 that are four laned, road diet those down to two lanes, with
11:18:16 either ascent 2004 way left Lane or median and a left turn
11:18:20 Lane depending on the location.
11:18:22 This project will also allow for implementing bicycle
11:18:25 facility.
11:18:26 We have a lot of bicycles utilization in this area.
11:18:30 We want to make a safer opportunity for those bicycle users.
11:18:35 We have a mixed speed limit within this corridor.
11:18:37 We are going to reduce that within those limits to 30 miles
11:18:42 an hour.
11:18:43 Also, we will be putting in new sidewalks, filling in
11:18:46 sidewalk gaps that are missing, putting in proper pedestrian
11:18:50 ramps to bring it up to ADA compliance.
11:18:53 It's going to be a lot safer when we get finished with the
11:18:56 project.
11:19:01 I just want to say a little bit about the benefits of the
11:19:04 roundabouts.
11:19:05 As I mentioned, there are great benefits torn reducing the
11:19:08 conflict points developed.
11:19:12 Reducing the number of crashes.
11:19:14 It brings in traffic calming, reduces speed in the
11:19:20 roundabouts to 20 miles per hour, gives more refuge for the
11:19:23 pedestrians to cross the roadway.
11:19:25 They are crossing with vehicles going at a lower speed, and
11:19:30 again aesthetic opportunities for the corridor.
11:19:38 The reduction of accidents is significant.
11:19:42 We have got lots of data state wide and nationally to
11:19:47 support.
11:19:49 Generally speaking, if we go from the stop controlled to
11:19:52 roundabout, you can see the numbers on your handout there.
11:19:55 Significant reductions in injuries, 828% severe injury, 44%
11:20:07 for overall crashes.
11:20:09 We have seen a significant reduction in crash rates.
11:20:16 If you can bear with me for a moment with the color.
11:20:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Duncan, Averil quick question.
11:20:23 Do we have any data on 407th street prior to putting
11:20:27 roundabouts in and after?
11:20:29 Jean Gene we do have data.
11:20:30 I don't have that available.
11:20:32 But I would be glad to look into our system and see what we
11:20:35 can provide.
11:20:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You can send that to each one of us because
11:20:40 I think it's important.
11:20:42 I enjoy on 40th because of the roundabouts.
11:20:44 I think it's a really good thing to have.
11:20:46 But it was actually emphasize the point you are making.
11:20:53 Jean Gene yes.
11:20:54 We have a local comparison, national and state criteria. So
11:21:01 very quickly, the point of this graphic is to show a typical
11:21:06 intersection, if you look at all the possible movements
11:21:09 vehicles could make.
11:21:10 There's basically 32 points of conflict that the vehicles
11:21:14 could have, vehicle to vehicle.
11:21:18 Those months. Are generally high speed.
11:21:20 You see many people whizzing through the intersections at
11:21:24 high speed, making a right or left turn.
11:21:28 They are high angle which means T-bone, specifically a 90º
11:21:33 angle which is the most severe, and then high energy as
11:21:35 well.
11:21:36 With changing that intersection configuration to a
11:21:39 roundabout, we reduce the number of conflict points that
11:21:43 those vehicles can have, while putting those vehicles at a
11:21:46 lower speed with each other, lower angle, so therefore the
11:21:50 crash impact is less, and obviously lower energy.
11:21:54 So again, national statistics are showing that this
11:21:58 transition is at 75% reduction across the board of crashes
11:22:04 that would happen at that particular intersection.
11:22:10 So similar data.
11:22:13 If you look at the conflict points the pedestrian could have
11:22:16 with the vehicle, that pedestrian attempting to cross a
11:22:19 roadway, there are 24 different points of possible conflict
11:22:23 with the roundabouts put into place, and reduce those points
11:22:27 to 8.
11:22:28 Obviously less direction to look at, less conflict to be
11:22:32 concerned about, safer for the pedestrians, and there's also
11:22:35 a refuge in that center of the crossing path, as well as a
11:22:39 much slower speed.
11:22:40 Again, lots of information to show how much safer the
11:22:43 roundabouts are.
11:22:45 I think you have all seen this graphic at some point in time
11:22:48 of how survival rate is increased by reducing the speed
11:22:53 limit.
11:22:54 And we will be reducing the speed limit on the corridors
11:22:57 down to 30 miles per hour.
11:23:00 Again, I threw in some more slides.
11:23:05 I don't want to belabor that point.
11:23:07 We did have a public meeting on this project the summer of
11:23:11 2014.
11:23:13 Along the corridor.
11:23:15 We plan to have another public meeting this fall, within the
11:23:18 next couple of months.
11:23:20 And share more details about the plan, and have
11:23:22 conversations with the public, in cooperation with the CRA.
11:23:26 And just a little bit of information about our schedule.
11:23:30 We are fortunate enough to have a significant amount of
11:23:32 funding from the Department of Transportation for this
11:23:35 project, for the design.
11:23:37 We have taken some opportunities to grab ahold of and use
11:23:45 those to fund the right-of-way acquisition that we need
11:23:48 which wasn't planned so that was a nice little windfall, and
11:23:57 of course somebody CRA money as well, and looking to start
11:24:00 that construction spring of 2019.
11:24:02 And complete that in the fall of 2020.
11:24:05 That's the information, and I will be glad to answer any
11:24:11 questions.
11:24:13 Perhaps ed Johnson might be able to answer as well.
11:24:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:24:20 The reason why I wanted you to come before us and put this
11:24:25 item on the agenda is because I recall that for several
11:24:31 years this was brought before the committee, and then the
11:24:33 CRA board, and a lot of people have forgotten that this was
11:24:40 going to go through.
11:24:43 In the future.
11:24:44 And there's been a lot of discussion about it I think it's
11:24:58 good that you are moving in this direction but I have a few
11:25:01 queues questions.
11:25:02 The stretch from Columbus Drive to Hillsborough -- and I
11:25:05 know you are going to get right-of-way acquisition -- how
11:25:08 many businesses or homes will be affected by this
11:25:14 right-of-way acquisition?
11:25:16 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Well, I don't know if I have any number for
11:25:20 you.
11:25:24 There's a handful.
11:25:26 I can get you that information.
11:25:28 We know exactly what we call corner clip that we need,
11:25:33 mainly at the intersection.
11:25:36 I could certainly get you that information, tell you exactly
11:25:41 which businesses or which residences.
11:25:43 But we do have a handful that will be needing corner clips
11:25:49 from, or we might be doing kind of a land swap with one or
11:25:52 two as well.
11:25:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
11:25:58 I hope you can get that information.
11:25:59 I think that's going to be needed.
11:26:02 Because once it starts, the one on 407th street, I still
11:26:05 get complaints today about the roundabout on 40th Street.
11:26:10 And as you know, when it was first put in place, there was a
11:26:18 lot of confusion, a lot of people hadn't seen around about
11:26:20 in their life and they were unable to adjust to it and there
11:26:23 was a lot of wrecks that took place and the same thing when
11:26:31 they did a roundabout on 22nd, there was a lot of confusion,
11:26:39 a lot of calls came into the office, and we had the plus and
11:26:45 minuses, folks that don't like it.
11:26:48 Now, we are looking at 34th, and all this is part of the
11:26:55 reason why I want to have this open discussion.
11:27:00 I'm starting to field the calls, and that this might happen.
11:27:08 And I see where you are going to have a public hearing
11:27:10 sometime in 2016.
11:27:11 >> uh-huh.
11:27:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: I would hope it will be sent out to all
11:27:23 those residents, the 34th street corridor.
11:27:28 You have quite a few from Columbus Drive all the way to
11:27:31 Hillsborough, and I would also like to suggest to you that
11:27:46 you probably need to meet with -- you or Mr. Johnson need to
11:27:52 meet with the people at Florida sentinel so they can have a
11:28:00 dialogue and get a clear understanding and they can
11:28:02 publicize that in the newspaper, and have that message put
11:28:08 out for discussion, because I don't know about my colleagues
11:28:18 but 90% of calls come to my office, and puts that stress and
11:28:26 frustration on the aide where all this comes about.
11:28:32 So I want to make sure that we have a better way of
11:28:35 communicating prior to doing this before August 19th.
11:28:43 And that's why I again just want to ask you to come before,
11:28:47 bring this up, and become aware of that, and they know --
11:28:54 because you want to start sometime, whether you buy the
11:28:59 right-of-way acquisition or something, and that's when the
11:29:02 questions start coming in, what's going on, what are they
11:29:04 doing?
11:29:05 And so we can have a great way of communicating with those
11:29:12 wherein on the affected outcomes and what have you, and what
11:29:18 happens on roundabouts.
11:29:20 Because I guarantee you, those people that's been at the
11:29:22 public meeting, when it was discussed with the East Tampa
11:29:25 Partnership, the CRA, those people, back in 2014, and now we
11:29:31 are in 2016, they probably forgot about it.
11:29:36 I forgot about it till I heard about it.
11:29:38 And that's why I asked you what's going on.
11:29:41 So I just wanted to share that, and hope that we can do a
11:29:45 better job in informing the community that this is going to
11:29:49 take place.
11:29:50 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:29:50 >>HARRY COHEN: I want to piggyback on something that
11:29:56 Councilman Reddick alluded to, and that is the educational
11:30:01 component of drivers understanding how to move through a
11:30:07 roundabout.
11:30:08 My biggest concern would be, I have no doubt about the
11:30:14 statistics that are cited about their safety benefits, and I
11:30:20 definitely have moved toward understanding why they are a
11:30:22 good traffic solution.
11:30:25 But when I go through roundabouts, what I observe is that
11:30:29 most drivers do not understand what the rules are of who has
11:30:33 the right-of-way.
11:30:34 And, you know, we are not used to roundabouts in Florida.
11:30:40 They don't exist in any large number.
11:30:42 And people don't know that the person inside the circle has
11:30:46 the right-of-way.
11:30:47 They are completely at a loss as to how to handle the
11:30:50 roundabout, and it creates a very, very dangerous situation.
11:30:54 And I know myself if I am driving through it, I'm more
11:30:57 concerned about everybody else who is coming through it, not
11:31:01 knowing and crashing right into me, when I know I am in the
11:31:04 right and exercising the right-of-way.
11:31:06 So I want to urge you and I want to let everyone know that I
11:31:11 think we should take this all to the MPO, we have got to
11:31:14 have an educational campaign explaining to everybody what
11:31:19 the rules are, and hoe has the right at any given time,
11:31:23 because it looks to be me like bumper cars half the time
11:31:31 when going through it.
11:31:32 So I just want to echo that.
11:31:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Capin.
11:31:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes, thank you.
11:31:36 You know, I have been a proponent of roundabouts from the
11:31:40 beginning six years ago.
11:31:41 Now, so I am glad to be see it coming around.
11:31:44 But, yes, I can see the education -- and around and around,
11:31:49 yes.
11:31:50 But here is the thing.
11:31:52 You said that -- there's two things here, two questions I
11:31:55 have.
11:31:58 We had the FDOT here, CRA, last month or the month before,
11:32:05 Jean talked to us about the TBX.
11:32:08 And I asked this question about it's a 20 year plan and did
11:32:14 the people who moved in 18 years ago or 16 years ago, were
11:32:18 they aware that this plan was in place?
11:32:20 And the lady, I forgot her name, turned around to look at
11:32:25 her colleague, and they didn't have an answer.
11:32:29 The answer was, well, the realtors, they are responsible for
11:32:32 information, which is true.
11:32:33 But they have to have the information.
11:32:37 So, you know, she stated that most of the people that bought
11:32:40 there were investors.
11:32:42 I don't care what they were.
11:32:44 They bought.
11:32:44 And they needed to be informed.
11:32:47 Then it came out two days later in the "St. Pete Times," a
11:32:51 statement of quote from her, saying that, in a, they did not
11:32:54 make that information public because they didn't want people
11:32:58 to be concerned.
11:33:01 That's not the answer she gave us here.
11:33:03 So my concern is this.
11:33:06 In reference to what Mr. Reddick said, these people need to
11:33:10 know what is coming their way, and they need to be notified.
11:33:16 Also, I suggest that we let the board of realtors know at
11:33:21 every point where we are going to expand or take any
11:33:26 property, or expect to be taking them.
11:33:29 It's very important because people don't know.
11:33:35 He's stating this is two years ago and they forgot.
11:33:37 So what if somebody brought it -- bought it, bought that
11:33:41 business, and then they are going to have to sell it, you
11:33:43 know, two, three years down the road?
11:33:45 So it's very, very important knowledge, information, so that
11:33:51 being said, I think we need to -- maybe ask the board of
11:33:56 realtors to work something out, because people need to be
11:34:00 informed when they make -- these purchases are sometimes
11:34:04 their largest lifetime purchase.
11:34:06 Then the other thing is, now you said that this roundabout
11:34:09 came to your attention because of all the accidents that
11:34:15 were there, the crashes, and the fatal crashes.
11:34:21 Is there any other intersection in the city that has caught
11:34:25 your attention?
11:34:26 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Yes, we are regularly reviewing our data and
11:34:29 looking to see what our highest priority locations are every
11:34:34 year. This particular corridor we have been working
11:34:37 together with part of the CRA master plan.
11:34:40 So through that cooperative working relationship, and their
11:34:45 interest in making some upgrades to this corridor, we look
11:34:50 at the accident data out there.
11:34:52 So yes, it does need to be safety.
11:34:55 So we have a regular process that we are reviewing that
11:34:58 accident data to see where do we need to spend our money to
11:35:02 make those locations safer.
11:35:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Which ones do we have this year that are
11:35:07 going to be in the budget this year?
11:35:08 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I have to get back to you on that.
11:35:10 We have quite a few.
11:35:12 Quite a few.
11:35:14 Not necessarily building roundabouts but doing other things
11:35:17 to them to make them safer.
11:35:19 So there's a mix of treatments that we are using for
11:35:22 roundabouts.
11:35:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Around about in some of these intervention
11:35:29 sections would be really impossible of the.
11:35:32 I understand that. But I am curious as to where else caught
11:35:35 the attention that we might be able to do a roundabout,
11:35:39 because they are much safer.
11:35:40 Because even if they are confused, they are moving a lot
11:35:44 slower.
11:35:44 They are moving a lot slower when they get into the
11:35:47 intersection.
11:35:48 And they learn.
11:35:49 If you go through that round about three times, you are
11:35:52 going to learn exactly how to get in and out of it.
11:35:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: If you don't get in a car accident the
11:36:00 first time.
11:36:01 (Laughter).
11:36:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Roundabouts are proven to be safer.
11:36:05 That's a given.
11:36:06 I brought this up six years ago, and I can't remember the
11:36:09 city.
11:36:09 Of course not the size of Tampa.
11:36:12 The mayor in that city took every red light camera out of
11:36:17 their intersections and installed roundabouts.
11:36:20 Of course, it was somewhere out where there was a lot of
11:36:24 land.
11:36:24 But they took all the traffic lights out and placed
11:36:27 roundabouts, because they are proven to be safer.
11:36:30 There's in a doubt about it.
11:36:31 So, anyway, thank you.
11:36:33 And I appreciate it.
11:36:34 And I would like to be see that data on what is coming up,
11:36:39 those intersections that you all are concerned about.
11:36:41 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Okay.
11:36:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Cohen again.
11:36:44 >>HARRY COHEN: I just wanted to mention to the other
11:36:48 council members that there's an idea germinated up through
11:36:51 the sunset homeowners association to put around about on Bay
11:36:57 to Bay so there's been thought given to a lot of places.
11:37:00 >> That would be great.
11:37:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Nip other questions or comments for Mrs.
11:37:05 Duncan?
11:37:05 Thank you, Mrs. Duncan.
11:37:07 We really appreciate your report.
11:37:08 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I'm on the next item as well.
11:37:13 Before you go forward, and I apologize.
11:37:18 Go ahead.
11:37:18 >>JEAN DUNCAN: Yes, the next item was regarding the
11:37:24 question about impact fees that have been received and
11:37:28 utilizing those to kick start the Gandy Dale Mabry
11:37:33 intersection.
11:37:37 Excuse me, Gandy Westshore.
11:37:40 I do have a short handout that I will give to all to take a
11:37:46 look at.
11:38:02 I believe this item came up, and I believe Mr. Steenson from
11:38:10 our Gandy area, there was a development agreement of some
11:38:17 sort that was generating some dollars for the Interbay
11:38:22 impact fee district.
11:38:23 So the question was, how could those moneys that are being
11:38:27 collected, how are they being spent, and can that money
11:38:31 connect start the project we have planned for Westshore and
11:38:35 Gandy?
11:38:39 Basically, I'll just put this on the Elmo for others to see.
11:38:42 We have an impact fee fund for each of our six impact fee
11:38:46 districts.
11:38:47 For the Interbay impact fee districts essentially all of the
11:38:52 money that we have been collecting has been earmarked for
11:38:58 this intersection improvements, which is basically putting
11:39:02 additional rest turn lanes onto Westshore, for folks to get
11:39:09 through the intersection, and along Westshore, south of
11:39:15 Pearl Avenue, south of Gandy.
11:39:21 So the simple answer to, you know, where are the moneys
11:39:24 going, how are they being spent, they are going into an
11:39:27 impact fee fund that is exclusively reserved for projects in
11:39:34 the Interbay impact fee district which is generally south of
11:39:37 Kennedy Boulevard, the southern part of our city, and
11:39:41 essentially almost all of the moneys are earmarked for
11:39:46 particular intersection projects.
11:39:47 So the next part of the question had to do with can we kick
11:39:52 start the schedule?
11:39:54 And this is the existing schedule that we have.
11:40:00 Our estimated cost of the project is slight ly more than we
11:40:04 have available right now, about $7.4 million.
11:40:08 Right now, we are finishing up our design.
11:40:13 We will be done with that 2018.
11:40:15 We are looking at right now 8 parcels that we would need
11:40:20 some portion of land from to widen the area.
11:40:25 And so we'll see some acquisition to finish our design.
11:40:29 And then we'll plan to go into construction from 2019.
11:40:34 And again we have got a portion of this project paid for by
11:40:38 the DOT, about 1.3 million.
11:40:41 The thing that is going to accelerate this project is not
11:40:45 adding 200, 300, 400 that you from a development agreement.
11:40:50 It's going to be actually the Tampa Hillsborough Expressway
11:40:54 Authority elevated Gandy project.
11:40:58 That project is planned to start in 2018.
11:41:04 And we have had a number of conversations with them.
11:41:07 We have been designing first the concept and then the actual
11:41:12 design of this intersection for several years now
11:41:16 anticipating at some point in time this elevated Gandy
11:41:20 project would come back, anticipating those tiers coming
11:41:26 into our intersection and planning for that project.
11:41:31 So Tampa thing that's going to really impact our project is
11:41:35 than the elevated Gandy project is we are going to merge our
11:41:38 design project with theirs, it's going to reduce the number
11:41:44 of right-of-way takings, going to reduce our costs from the
11:41:48 7.47 down to a little over 4 million.
11:41:52 And schedulewise, it will have a few months of increase as
11:41:59 far as starting sooner, but the significant impact it's
11:42:02 going to have is going to be on the cost that we will now
11:42:04 not have to spend because we are getting some efficiencies
11:42:09 by teaming up with them, saving on mobilization and M LT
11:42:16 which significantly reduces our costs for the right-of-way
11:42:20 takings.
11:42:20 The answer to our question is we will accelerate slightly,
11:42:26 save a significant amount of money, but not because of the
11:42:29 development in that area.
11:42:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you for bringing that.
11:42:37 And the recent development is what the brought the attention
11:42:39 to it.
11:42:40 The reason development was going to be the answer to the
11:42:43 problem on Westshore and Gandy.
11:42:46 So thank you for that.
11:42:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Other questions of Ms. Duncan?
11:42:52 Thank you so much.
11:42:53 We appreciate it.
11:42:56 [Off microphone.]
11:42:58 Okay, Mr. Bayor.
11:43:04 >>GREG BAYOR: Good morning, council.
11:43:23 Not to make light, but I guess my Power Point is up in the
11:43:25 sky.
11:43:26 After our initial presentation to the administration, I'm
11:43:29 very happy for the approval to move ahead.
11:43:35 We are working on multiple options right now.
11:43:41 It's a complex issue that we are working our way through
11:43:45 that.
11:43:46 Palm Beach County has five.
11:43:47 Miami Beach installed 50.
11:43:49 Manhattan beach in California has five for their program.
11:43:56 And the city of Boston has gone in, 220 parks.
11:44:02 We have also received approvals for risk and legal.
11:44:11 One thing we found is there is a wide variety of formulas
11:44:14 that are out there
11:44:17 Tampa General Hospital, and we'll seek other medical
11:44:21 professional advice out of that.
11:44:23 And we found several brands, and several amounts of
11:44:34 sunscreen, from a thousand to 4,000, and how many to use a
11:44:39 year, subject to how often people will use them.
11:44:42 You know, we have what to apply, and what do you do if it's
11:44:55 ingested or in your eyes?
11:45:00 We would also like to develop a partnership program.
11:45:08 Here is the dilemma.
11:45:09 It's where do we start?
11:45:12 Logically we can start with areas of activity with exposure
11:45:18 to the sun, beaches, boat ramps, outdoor fitness areas,
11:45:22 piers, playgrounds, pals, splash pads, tennis courts.
11:45:28 I'm thrilled to be director of 336 sites that we probably
11:45:36 should consider.
11:45:38 There's water in every park except the parks and add 248 to
11:45:45 that.
11:45:45 So that's where our dilemma is.
11:45:46 Where do we start this?
11:45:48 That's what we are working on now, to present several
11:45:50 different options, probably starting with the most active
11:45:53 areas first, and get approval to move,.
11:46:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Cohen?
11:46:05 >>HARRY COHEN: I think that's wonderful news.
11:46:07 I think everyone is thrilled that we are going to be able to
11:46:10 do this program, and reduce skin cancer and other sun
11:46:19 maladies that come from too much exposure.
11:46:21 Where have you actually put this out as a prototype to try
11:46:24 it?
11:46:25 >> We have not snoop but I know it's in Corona park,
11:46:29 correct?
11:46:30 >> I think it's next to the park.
11:46:32 >>HARRY COHEN: And you are not operating the equipment
11:46:34 there, and not a part of it.
11:46:36 Do you expect to put somebody out as a prototype at some
11:46:40 point?
11:46:42 >>GREG BAYOR: My impression is based on the fact that we
11:46:44 all agreed and addressing how much will be put out.
11:46:50 >>HARRY COHEN: What sort of timetable are we looking at?
11:46:53 Pa.
11:46:54 >>GREG BAYOR: Approximately maybe 100 or more.
11:47:12 We are plodding a long, but I would suggest August --
11:47:16 >>HARRY COHEN: I guess where I am going is I think that a
11:47:19 program this size is going to be very effective.
11:47:23 It would be wonderful if we knew that within six to nine
11:47:27 months, by next summer we could have sunscreen dispensers
11:47:30 out all over the city.
11:47:32 I mean, that he would be to me a very doable goal.
11:47:35 How do we make that happen?
11:47:37 How do we make sure that it doesn't just sort of get lost in
11:47:41 the clouds somewhere and we turn around and a year from now
11:47:44 we don't actually have any dispensers out there are?
11:47:48 >>GREG BAYOR: Well, I'm really good about -- (Laughter).
11:47:54 >>HARRY COHEN: Would you suggest that we ask you to come
11:47:56 back in three months and give you an update as to where we
11:48:00 are?
11:48:01 >>GREG BAYOR: That's fine.
11:48:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione.
11:48:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm glad that you are looking for
11:48:05 sponsorship.
11:48:06 And you mentioned how many we will allow.
11:48:08 And I prefer to go the Boston method and go all in, with all
11:48:13 330 sites, and probably most of the locations within each
11:48:17 site.
11:48:17 So it's going to be more than just the number of parks or
11:48:21 opportunities we have.
11:48:22 It could be double that number.
11:48:24 So do you have to go to the RSP to find out what it's going
11:48:30 to cost before you start soliciting sponsorships, or can you
11:48:34 start soliciting sponsorships so the impact of the budget is
11:48:38 less, and you don't have to wait for an appropriation in the
11:48:42 budget in order to make this happen?
11:48:45 >>GREG BAYOR: Well, we'll when we know what the costs are,
11:48:55 and it's significant.
11:49:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But there are other cities doing this.
11:49:05 We can on the back of a napkin, you know, estimate, and
11:49:10 folks who might be interested, companies who might be
11:49:12 interested in sponsoring this, you know, health insurance
11:49:17 companies, or -- I don't want to mention any particular
11:49:20 names, but, you know, there are companies out there who
11:49:23 might want to put their name on it and say, well, an
11:49:28 estimation based on Boston numbers with 220 units is X, and
11:49:35 then they experienced, you know, operating costs of Y, and
11:49:41 just float the idea to these companies, because I don't want
11:49:47 us to put out the RFP, get a contract with someone, and then
11:49:52 have to wait for budget appropriation because we didn't do
11:49:55 the advance of getting the sponsorship in, you know, in
11:49:59 advance.
11:50:04 I know what you need is another staff member.
11:50:07 You said that you are only one person right now working on
11:50:12 this in order for anything to move faster than the hands-on,
11:50:17 the quicker it might go.
11:50:19 >>GREG BAYOR: I --
11:50:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If we hear of anyone that's interested
11:50:29 we will send them your way.
11:50:31 Thank you.
11:50:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I think sponsorship is wonderful.
11:50:36 I wonder if we can do it as Mrs. Montelione said, look at it
11:50:40 in advance, and have a list of sponsors that have pledged to
11:50:44 be part of it.
11:50:47 And when we have all the data, all the information, then we
11:50:51 have a number of -- an amount of pledges, and we make it
11:50:56 public so everyone knows who pledged.
11:51:02 You know, it's a great idea.
11:51:05 Not only is it good for people to put on the sunscreen but
11:51:10 it makes people very aware of where they are at and what's
11:51:13 happening to their skin.
11:51:14 And which you don't think about a lot of times when you are
11:51:17 out there.
11:51:18 We should have them on every corner I don't.
11:51:22 This is Florida.
11:51:23 But I just felt maybe the pledges would give us an idea of
11:51:27 how much are out there willing to be part of this.
11:51:31 >>GREG BAYOR: What comes to mind -- and I can't obviously
11:51:35 comment on the results -- --
11:51:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thanks so much.
11:51:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Bayor, some of the things that have been
11:51:51 discussed, the difference between Boston and Tampa is
11:51:53 significant, okay?
11:51:55 You know, because they probably get less use during the
11:51:59 wintertime.
11:52:00 It's just a guess.
11:52:01 I may be wrong.
11:52:02 But during the wintertime that we will have all year round.
11:52:06 And I think that you are right.
11:52:07 One of the things that I have heard, too, is that depending
11:52:10 on the time that the product sits within the dispenser could
11:52:15 actually reduce the effectiveness of that particular SBF.
11:52:21 And it's something to look at when you talk about formula,
11:52:23 what's the most resilient to heat as opposed to sun only.
11:52:29 The difference for us is the heat index is much more
11:52:32 important here and humidity is much more important than just
11:52:35 the sun.
11:52:36 If it was just the sun, we could measure it just like they
11:52:39 would do in California.
11:52:42 But California has nowhere near the humidity that we have.
11:52:44 And you only have to gone out side for a minute to
11:52:48 understand that humidity does have a reduction on the lotion
11:52:55 that you are using and how many times you are going to have
11:52:57 to have or how many supplies you are going to have to have.
11:53:00 You mention board of director where to start.
11:53:02 Curtis Hixon park is a great place to start.
11:53:05 It is a great public park.
11:53:06 It is the most used of our large parks.
11:53:09 But it also is the one that has the least amount of shade of
11:53:14 any of our major parks out there.
11:53:16 And because of that reason, it really is in need of that.
11:53:19 So if it's 3, 5, 10, 15 dispensaries that are used in Curtis
11:53:26 Hicks own based on whatever is sun is going to be, I think
11:53:31 it's extremely important because the main thing we hear
11:53:33 about at Curtis Hixon park almost all the time, people
11:53:39 complain about that.
11:53:40 For me, I think that's one of the first places to start.
11:53:43 And in addition, I really believe that you have to figure
11:53:46 out, once you know what that RFP looks like in terms.
11:53:51 Formula, the dispensaries and so on, those sponsorships are
11:53:55 extremely important.
11:53:56 And there are numerous companies that will probably want to
11:53:59 be involved in that.
11:54:00 And I think you being one of the top people that we have in
11:54:03 terms of looking for sponsorships in the parks, we know you
11:54:06 have a very good relationship with the Cal Ripken
11:54:12 foundation.
11:54:12 There's in a reason why we can't have him sponsor for every
11:54:16 ballpark that we have.
11:54:17 I think that he would understand especially he has a little
11:54:20 bit more skin on top of his head that is exposed to the sun.
11:54:24 No offense to anyone on council. Anyway, we'll go to Mrs.
11:54:29 Capin and then Mr. Cohen is going to go ahead and do the
11:54:33 motion to bring it back.
11:54:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: See how much help you are getting from us?
11:54:39 We are already telling you where to go, how to go, what
11:54:41 the --
11:54:42 >> We have never done that.
11:54:44 >> We need portable units.
11:54:49 We have 5,000 people.
11:54:52 So we are already considering all the avenues.
11:54:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Terrific.
11:54:59 Mr. Cohen, would you like to make your --
11:55:02 >>HARRY COHEN: Sure.
11:55:03 I just want to close it out by mentioning that Councilman
11:55:06 Maniscalco and Councilman Suarez and I were at the opening
11:55:09 of the new segment of the Riverwalk, and we took a little
11:55:12 stroll, and it was blistering hot and the sun was beating
11:55:15 down on us, and you can only imagine how many people get out
11:55:19 onto the Riverwalk or Bayshore, or any of the other major
11:55:22 attractions that we have and realize just how hot it is
11:55:26 after a few minutes.
11:55:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It does not agree with me at all.
11:55:42 >>HARRY COHEN: I will tell you it was blistering hot.
11:55:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I have a sun umbrella.
11:55:50 >>HARRY COHEN: Within that, I do think this is a great
11:55:53 idea.
11:55:53 And we want to make sure that we show progress and we
11:55:57 monitor it.
11:55:58 I would like to ask that had you come back on November
11:56:00 3rd under staff reports, give us a progress report, let
11:56:05 us know how this is progressing, and let us know what
11:56:09 decisions have been made tentatively in terms of where we
11:56:12 might want tone deploy them, how a sponsorship program might
11:56:16 work and what the plan is to get them in place as quickly as
11:56:20 possible.
11:56:20 >> Second.
11:56:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Cohen.
11:56:23 A second from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:56:25 All in favor of that motion?
11:56:27 Any opposed?
11:56:28 Thank you.
11:56:29 Thank you, Mr. Bayor, I appreciate it.
11:56:35 Next up is we have item number 79.
11:56:38 >>JULIA MANDELL: City attorney.
11:56:51 As per previous discussions with City Council, I am
11:56:53 providing you with an ordinance which would have the effect
11:56:55 of amending your charter to a referendum process to add in
11:57:01 language into the charter relating to City Council having --
11:57:05 and I will read the language, it's pretty simple -- it would
11:57:08 add the following language into your charter.
11:57:13 In addition the City Council shall have the right to request
11:57:15 the internal auditor to perform additional internal audits
11:57:19 to be super majority vote of City Council as provided for in
11:57:23 the ordinance.
11:57:24 As you may recall there was a lot of discussion as to the
11:57:27 parameters relating to the internal auditor's request, and
11:57:31 with this language it would then, assuming this language
11:57:36 goes forward and goes Ford to the referendum process, it
11:57:40 would have the effect of then allowing council to pass an
11:57:44 ordinance to provide for this process, which would allow for
11:57:47 greater debate.
11:57:52 I'm available for any questions.
11:57:53 If you read this on first reading it would go into effect at
11:57:57 reading and after that time GOP through your normal
11:58:00 ordinance signing process, and get past that process, then
11:58:03 it would go over to the supervisor of elections to be part
11:58:07 of the ballot.
11:58:07 Thank you.
11:58:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
11:58:10 The language that actually appears on the ballot, as you
11:58:15 read it, you actually stopped when you said, as provided for
11:58:23 pursuant to an ordinance.
11:58:25 >>JULIA MANDELL: The direct language that --
11:58:30 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm just wondering if that phrase --
11:58:33 because when folks are reading the ballot, and reading the
11:58:36 language, I mean, sometimes people are mystified by what
11:58:44 something means.
11:58:45 So is the part where it says as provided pursuant to an
11:58:51 ordinance subsequently adopted necessary?
11:58:54 Do we -- could we just end the sentence at "should the
11:58:59 charter be amended to allow City Council the right to
11:59:02 require the internal audit department to perform additional
11:59:05 internal audits by a super majority vote of City Council,
11:59:10 period.
11:59:10 >>JULIA MANDELL: My concern with just using the period at
11:59:14 that moment is you are putting within your charter a
11:59:16 provision that you will actually adopt an ordinance to --
11:59:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
11:59:22 But that's the mechanics of making it work.
11:59:24 Does it have to be on the ballot and does the voter have to
11:59:28 vote on the mechanics?
11:59:31 >>JULIA MANDELL: I think in order to be very clear -- the
11:59:33 reason I draft it the way I drafted it was because it was at
11:59:37 the moment in time, this language is adopted that you can
11:59:40 start asking for the audit.
11:59:42 We need to then go to the secondary step.
11:59:44 And so in order to provide those who are voting on this the
11:59:51 full knowledge of what's occurring, that's why -- and as I
11:59:53 said, I could take out the "subsequently."
11:59:56 I just thought that was much clearer than just saying
11:59:59 "ordinance."
12:00:01 So if you want to tap that out, that's fine.
12:00:03 But I think you really do need to have --
12:00:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I am just worried that citizens reading
12:00:08 that and voting on it will think that it's old, that it's
12:00:11 already there.
12:00:15 When you say as provided pursuant to an ordinance
12:00:18 subsequently adopted --
12:00:21 >>JULIA MANDELL: I don't have any problem taking out the
12:00:23 term subsequently adopted.
12:00:24 I do think it might be an impairment to your obligation to
12:00:27 make clear to the voters what it is they are voting on to
12:00:30 take out pursuant to an ordinance.
12:00:34 To take out subsequently adopted, I thought that made it
12:00:37 more clear to a voter than just saying pursuant to an
12:00:40 ordinance.
12:00:41 But I can take that part of it out but I really can't
12:00:44 recommend you take out --
12:00:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I prefer things to be in plain English
12:00:50 language, not necessarily legalese.
12:00:53 So if it's clear to the voter that this is something that
12:01:03 will have to be adopted by ordinance if it's voter approved,
12:01:06 however we can work clearly and simply get there --
12:01:11 >>JULIA MANDELL: I put that language in because I thought
12:01:13 it did make it clearer, but that's fine.
12:01:16 I don't have be a problem with taking out subsequently
12:01:19 adopted but I think you have to have the language to be
12:01:21 clear to the voter.
12:01:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: All right.
12:01:23 I would prefer just pursuant to an ordinance and drop the
12:01:26 "subsequently."
12:01:28 >>JULIA MANDELL: And that would be a change you can make
12:01:30 between first and second reading so if City Council would be
12:01:33 like to move that forward in that manner.
12:01:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I can get a motion to extend time till
12:01:39 12:30.
12:01:40 I have a motion from Mr. Cohen, second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:01:43 All in favor?
12:01:44 Any opposed?
12:01:45 Thank you.
12:01:45 Anything else?
12:01:47 >>JULIA MANDELL: I don't have anything else.
12:01:51 I think it is the will of council to review that
12:01:54 subsequently adopted.
12:01:55 I would ask you make that part of your motion.
12:01:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other comments or questions before we
12:01:59 move forward on this particular item are?
12:02:04 When would you come back?
12:02:09 >>JULIA MANDELL: What you would do is ask a change between
12:02:12 first and second reading from the ballot language provision
12:02:15 which would be section 2 that we remove the word
12:02:19 "subsequently adopted" if that's the will of council.
12:02:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione?
12:02:27 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I was going to make the motion.
12:02:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think that would be proper at this time.
12:02:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
12:02:31 I move that we adopt the language provided in the ordinance
12:02:37 provided by Ms. Mandell dated July 12, 2016, with the change
12:02:43 to be made between first and second reading to remove the
12:02:48 words "subsequently adopted" and second reading.
12:03:00 I'm sorry, I have to read the title.
12:03:02 My apologies.
12:03:04 It's in the addendum from the memo.
12:03:08 Okay.
12:03:12 I move an ordinance relating to the government of the city
12:03:14 of Tampa, Florida submitting to the electors of the city a
12:03:18 proposed amendment to the revised charter of the City of
12:03:20 Tampa of 1975, as amended, regarding charter section 5.01,
12:03:26 "departments" and more particularly City Council
12:03:30 interactions with the internal audit department providing
12:03:35 for referendum, and providing an effective date.
12:03:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mrs. Montelione.
12:03:40 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:03:42 All in favor of that motion?
12:03:43 Any opposed?
12:03:46 Thank you very much.
12:03:46 >>THE CLERK: [Off microphone.]
12:03:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
12:03:57 Item number 80.
12:03:58 Staff.
12:03:59 >> Chuck Weber, what you want department director, here to
12:04:06 give an update on West Tampa project, the time Lane
12:04:12 specifically.
12:04:13 The project is in the 2017 proposed budget and subject to
12:04:18 approval, it could be completed as soon as March 2017.
12:04:22 With that I'll take any questions.
12:04:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from staff?
12:04:25 Mr. Miranda.
12:04:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to say thank you, Kansas.
12:04:30 (Laughter)
12:04:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other comments or questions to staff?
12:04:36 Thank you very much.
12:04:36 We appreciate it.
12:04:40 Number 81.
12:04:41 I think that's your item, Ms. Glover.
12:04:47 >> Good morning.
12:04:51 Christine Glover, internal audit, City of Tampa, internal
12:04:58 audit.
12:04:59 I'm here to respond to your questions regarding the solid
12:05:03 waste and abuse hotline, process has been provided to you.
12:05:07 Hotline has been in place since January of 2013.
12:05:10 We received 24 calls.
12:05:17 Those calls have been investigated to some degree, and 22 of
12:05:20 those calls were not founded and two were founded.
12:05:24 I think that answers -- and I also provided you the type of
12:05:28 calls that we received, and subject to your questions.
12:05:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you for providing this
12:05:41 information, Ms. Glover.
12:05:44 How is this advertised -- and this is for employees only?
12:05:52 Employees only can use this hotline?
12:05:54 >> Correct.
12:05:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: How is this advertised and circulated
12:05:58 among the employees that this hotline is available to them?
12:06:01 >> On the bulletin board, we have flyers, and always we
12:06:11 question management, interview to make sure they are aware
12:06:15 of the hotline.
12:06:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When we hire new employees as part of HR
12:06:19 orientation that this hotline exists?
12:06:22 >> I'm not sure about the answer to that question.
12:06:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is it on, when you sign into your
12:06:30 computer in the morning, is there a bulletin of information
12:06:34 that's available, things coming up, retirement parties, and
12:06:38 holiday, and et cetera, is it there?
12:06:41 >> It is not.
12:06:42 I think that but it's on our internal intranet.
12:06:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I guess the reason I am asking those
12:06:52 questions, do you know how many employees we have at the
12:06:54 City of Tampa?
12:06:57 >> About 4200.
12:06:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: 46,200 and this has been in place since
12:07:03 2013 and we have had 24 calls total?
12:07:06 >> I can share some data with you from other jurisdictions.
12:07:09 The city of St. Petersburg has a hotline as well, and they
12:07:15 have had it since May of 2008, they have only received 23
12:07:20 calls and one call was founded.
12:07:23 Pasco County also had a hotline.
12:07:26 It's been in place since January of 2015, and as of June,
12:07:30 they honestly high pressure three calls.
12:07:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I find that very curious.
12:07:38 Okay.
12:07:44 Well, I find it curious because I think each one of us at
12:07:48 some point in time in five years have heard from employees
12:07:54 that they have got a complaint, or that they have seen
12:07:57 something that doesn't seem right, or, you know, we have got
12:08:02 unions who hear from their union members on a regular basis
12:08:08 of things that they would wish the union would take up.
12:08:12 But to have only 24 calls since 2013, and five jurisdictions
12:08:20 also have the same type of results, either there's a
12:08:24 perception by the employees that this is not confidential
12:08:29 and that they are going to receive some kind of ram fakes of
12:08:36 employment from speaking out, or it's not publicized.
12:08:40 I don't know what Pasco or Pinellas or anybody else does to
12:08:43 publicize than the opportunities to employees and to really
12:08:48 stress that it's -- finance there was found to be
12:08:57 ramification, that their supervisor, or whoever was dealing
12:09:01 out the ramification, would be in trouble as well.
12:09:04 So I think this is work we need to do.
12:09:09 And I ask you, and maybe Kimberley Crum from HR to help us
12:09:15 work through what those issues are, because I think it's a
12:09:19 valuable tool for transparency and efficiency in government.
12:09:24 And I think it's underutilized.
12:09:26 So there's got to be a way that we can work through this.
12:09:30 The only other question before I hear from my colleagues to
12:09:33 see what they think is in the two founded cases, one
12:09:39 employment was terminated, so I think it shows it works.
12:09:45 And the other is required code change was made and was
12:09:50 handled by legal.
12:09:52 So Mr. Shelby reached out and I think he spoke with Mrs.
12:09:56 Mandell, and we are not sure what the code change was.
12:09:59 Mr. Shelby is not aware of it.
12:10:02 Mrs. Mandell is not aware of it.
12:10:03 Can you tell me what the code change was?
12:10:06 >> This particular incident related specifically to
12:10:09 handicapped parking, and it was investigated by than the
12:10:14 director hop actually was reported at that time in 2013 when
12:10:20 it occurred, and he worked with -- because we keep this in
12:10:25 our workplace, our automated workplace response, he got that
12:10:29 from somebody else investigated, they have to give us a
12:10:32 response that we kind of close it out, and said that our
12:10:35 legal department representative Julie Hardy is working with
12:10:42 us to make changes to clarify the city code related to
12:10:45 handicapped parking.
12:10:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So it was an employee that reported --
12:10:55 handicapped parking?
12:10:57 >> On the street.
12:10:59 As a matter of fact, just so you know, when the hotline is
12:11:07 through a contract theory we have, is it's not directly into
12:11:10 the city.
12:11:10 They can do so anonymously.
12:11:12 We get an e-mail with the merits of the information.
12:11:15 The employee goes back to them at a certain period of time
12:11:17 to get an update that we can provide an update so we don't
12:11:21 necessarily communicate with that employee.
12:11:23 In this particular incident, Mr. Shelby called me yesterday,
12:11:29 an employee parked on the street in a handicapped spot, and
12:11:35 received a ticket at 8:47.
12:11:37 And quoted Florida statutes that allow four hours of free
12:11:44 parking for handicapped.
12:11:45 But he was ticketed at 8:47 and the employee doesn't report
12:11:51 to work till 8:00.
12:11:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
12:11:56 So a full hour.
12:11:58 >> What needs to be clarified in the code, I'm not sure
12:12:03 about that.
12:12:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's clear enough.
12:12:08 Thank you.
12:12:10 So we fixed whatever the discrepancy was.
12:12:14 I'm pleased with that.
12:12:15 You know, TV curiosity to me -- and I think the work we need
12:12:20 to do is in publicizing this to employees, and really
12:12:25 having, you know, the opportunity for people to know that
12:12:29 this is available to them.
12:12:31 Because you have two examples of things that, you know, show
12:12:35 that it worked.
12:12:36 So I'm sure there's other people out there who have things
12:12:40 to say that we might be able to act on.
12:12:44 >> Well, overwhelmingly, what we tend to get in the hotline
12:12:48 is disgruntled employees or poor communication in the
12:12:53 department, not necessarily for fraud, waste and abuse.
12:12:57 And of course there are other avenues where employees feel
12:13:01 that they have been miss treated, go directly to human
12:13:05 resources, or rather than going through the hotline.
12:13:09 I personally have received a customer service communication
12:13:14 from an employee about a concern that they had.
12:13:17 But this is not really the only avenue.
12:13:19 And lake I said, not fraud or waste.
12:13:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Maybe we need to expand the occur pew
12:13:28 out side of waste.
12:13:29 >> Well, we don't dump it.
12:13:31 When we get it, we still handle it.
12:13:33 Even refer it where the case where the employee was
12:13:37 terminated, it was actually referred to HR and they did the
12:13:40 investigation.
12:13:43 So we don't throw it away just because it's not fraud, waste
12:13:46 and a because.
12:13:47 We still refer it out and we have to get a response back in
12:13:52 order to close out the case.
12:13:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Miranda, Mr. Reddick.
12:13:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
12:13:58 I want to thank you for everything you have done and
12:14:00 continue to do on a daily basis and to me it's not the
12:14:04 number of calls you get.
12:14:06 You get a thousand of them or two thousand of them and most
12:14:09 of those will be somebody that's upset with somebody else,
12:14:12 had a bad day at the house or bad day at the office or bad
12:14:15 day at City Hall.
12:14:16 Most of them don't like us.
12:14:20 So, I mean, it's the number of calls that you investigate,
12:14:29 and there's a couple of them that have been done and
12:14:32 prosecuted out of the system.
12:14:33 And rightly so.
12:14:37 But Pasco, Pinellas, evidently the trend is the same that we
12:14:40 have had.
12:14:41 Very small calls, but the ones that are there are the ones
12:14:44 that are valid.
12:14:45 And than the way you explained it, from what I got it,
12:14:49 really don't even know who the employee is.
12:14:54 Nobody really knows.
12:14:56 So everything is there, and I understand, but somebody
12:15:01 that's in a workplace, no matter if it's in this city or
12:15:04 anywhere, don't know how to report something, they shouldn't
12:15:10 be working for that place.
12:15:11 They have got to be playing stupid.
12:15:14 And we have done that.
12:15:16 I mean, it's there.
12:15:17 And it works.
12:15:18 I don't see us making any changes myself.
12:15:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick.
12:15:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, chair.
12:15:26 You know, one of the things that bothers me is that we are
12:15:30 lacking a program that Bobby Bowden, Fred Hearns, used to
12:15:38 run in the city where people have these complaints, they go
12:15:41 directly to their department, and then complain, and
12:15:45 investigated.
12:15:49 I see all the time of people saying they work for the city,
12:15:52 they don't know where to go, and they don't trust going to
12:15:57 human resources people, and I don't blame them.
12:16:00 But they don't know where to go, and they don't have the
12:16:05 programs like they have -- and human affairs or something
12:16:16 like that, and Fred Hearns, the way he receives valid
12:16:21 complaints and they are investigated, and I got more than 23
12:16:29 calls or complaints.
12:16:30 You ought to see all the letters I got from employees
12:16:30 complaining about something going on, and so I think -- I
12:16:39 don't know the reason why they didn't continue when Fred
12:16:43 Hearns was here and Bobby Bowden was running those programs.
12:16:46 But the numbers, I mean, they had a hey number being
12:16:53 investigated and people felt comfortable, and we don't have
12:16:59 that program where we can go like go to Bobby Bowden or Fred
12:17:04 Hearns, and anything that can be done, we need to find out
12:17:08 why Tampa city took away that investigative power, and I
12:17:16 just can't recall.
12:17:19 I know Bobby Bowden for many years and Fred Hearns did it
12:17:23 for many years, and both of them retired, and it seems like
12:17:28 that program has disappeared or that department has
12:17:30 disappeared.
12:17:31 So that's the problem, I think
12:17:44 I mean, calling and making complaint.
12:17:46 I think they had it perceived where you go to the department
12:17:50 of community affairs, and file a complaint, and they
12:17:58 investigate it.
12:17:59 I think that's what's lacking in the city getting rid of
12:18:03 that department.
12:18:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions or comments from council
12:18:09 of Mrs. Glover?
12:18:10 Thank you, Mrs. Glover.
12:18:12 Thank you for your patience.
12:18:14 I think we do need to have a motion to move item number 82
12:18:18 to August 25th.
12:18:23 I have a motion from Mr. Maniscalco, second from Mr. Cohen.
12:18:26 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
12:18:29 Any opposed?
12:18:30 Okay.
12:18:30 Do we have anybody from staff to talk about item 83?
12:18:38 Okay.
12:18:38 Here is the problem.
12:18:39 We have item 837 which has some change concerning the
12:18:44 contractual obligations that we were supposed to be entering
12:18:47 into.
12:18:47 Of course, as you remember last time we voted, did it not
12:18:51 get enough votes in order to move forward and keeps getting
12:18:55 put onto our agenda each time.
12:18:57 I was expecting someone from staff would be here to discuss
12:19:01 this item primarily because anytime a significant change is
12:19:04 being done we like to know about it.
12:19:05 Mr. Shelby, you were going to say something.
12:19:08 Was the legal department supposed to be here to talk about
12:19:10 this?
12:19:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I don't know.
12:19:12 I still see Mrs. Mandell, and I do know you have --
12:19:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And find out if she wants to speak to this
12:19:19 item because I do have some questions specifically about the
12:19:21 changes.
12:19:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Thank you.
12:19:40 Mrs. Mandell, I don't know if you were also here to speak
12:19:42 about number 83.
12:19:44 >>JULIA MANDELL: I wasn't specifically.
12:19:48 This item had previously come to council and there was not
12:19:52 action able to be taken because it was a tie vote.
12:19:55 Since that time, the vendor has said that they would be
12:20:00 willing to amend their agreement in order to take out and I
12:20:11 am not familiar so I would have to ask for more
12:20:14 information -- to remove a provision in there that they
12:20:18 would receive a guarantee of $85,000.
12:20:20 They have removed that.
12:20:21 What you have in front of you is a substitute resolution to
12:20:25 approve that, if you so choose, to move forward with an
12:20:31 agreement with that substitution in it, so they would remove
12:20:35 that provision, and you can take a vote up or down whether
12:20:43 or not you want to proceed forward with the contract given
12:20:45 that revision to the contract.
12:20:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a legal question for you concerning
12:20:49 the change of a contract, after a discussion before council,
12:20:53 does that not essentially prejudice other people that had
12:20:57 bids, primarily because now you have changed the contract
12:21:00 and the rules of the game.
12:21:01 >>JULIA MANDELL: We need to talk about that with our
12:21:07 purchasing attorney, and that particular change does not
12:21:12 change the underlying RFQ that was put out there, and so
12:21:18 when you get into contract negotiations after you closed out
12:21:21 and take your bidder in contract negotiations that is part
12:21:29 of the contract negotiation that you can move forward with.
12:21:32 But again, City Council has the right to vote the contract
12:21:35 up or down with that revision.
12:21:37 So that's where it stands now.
12:21:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione.
12:21:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
12:21:42 I feel the same way that since we discussed this the first
12:21:47 time.
12:21:47 The issue of tracking, and what we actually needed within
12:21:56 this contract was the 2011-2012, you know, when we had so
12:22:01 many properties in foreclosure, that following up on them
12:22:06 and keeping track of them was very, very difficult for the
12:22:09 employees that we had.
12:22:11 Being that the economy is recovering, I see around my own
12:22:15 neighborhood all those other vacant properties that I pass
12:22:21 by on a regular basis are now being rehabbed, and the
12:22:28 plywood coming off the windows, and they are being put back
12:22:32 into service and offered for sale.
12:22:38 So for the amount of work -- and we had Mr. Slater here last
12:22:45 time we discussed this -- they can handle it in-house.
12:22:48 I don't know why we need to contact the vendor when it's
12:22:54 something that we are cable, willing and able to do.
12:22:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other comments or questions concerning
12:22:59 that?
12:23:02 Okay, we have item number 83.
12:23:05 Is there anyone that would like to make a motion on this
12:23:07 particular item?
12:23:16 We need someone that is willing to make a motion if we get a
12:23:20 second.
12:23:20 >> I would like to make a motion approving the proposal with
12:23:25 a substitute resolution between the City of Tampa and clear
12:23:28 village.
12:23:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:23:31 Do I have a second?
12:23:32 I have a second from Mr. Miranda.
12:23:34 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
12:23:38 Opposed?
12:23:39 >>THE CLERK: Reddick, Suarez and month loan voting no.
12:23:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
12:23:47 We are tied again.
12:23:48 Not tied again.
12:23:49 We are tied.
12:23:50 Okay.
12:23:52 It comes back to the next regular -- she had to go to
12:23:59 another event.
12:24:05 I would make a suggestion that staff, since you are the only
12:24:09 senior staff, actually the only staff in the room right now,
12:24:12 I would make a suggestion that either they come up with a
12:24:16 better way of presenting this to us, in a way that we can go
12:24:20 forward, or not do something with it or not bring it back up
12:24:23 on the agenda.
12:24:24 And I will insist that if it comes back on this agenda
12:24:26 without an explanation in terms of what's going on, I am not
12:24:29 going to allow it on the agenda next time.
12:24:31 >>JULIA MANDELL: Very good .
12:24:34 >>: We have information reports and new business by council
12:24:36 members.
12:24:36 Mr. Miranda.
12:24:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have been asked to make a request to
12:24:42 invite troops and organizations dedicating to honoring the
12:24:49 military with a August presentation August 25th at
12:24:56 9 a.m. for a ten minute presentation.
12:24:59 I have a second from Mrs. Montelione.
12:25:01 All in favor of that motion?
12:25:03 Any opposed?
12:25:04 Okay, anything else, sir?
12:25:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's it.
12:25:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick.
12:25:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Be patient with me.
12:25:19 I have Mrs. Capin's.
12:25:21 First, on behalf of Councilwoman Capin, confirm the
12:25:28 commendation presented to the recognition of a family
12:25:31 reunion taking place this month in Tampa.
12:25:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Reddick.
12:25:37 Second from Mr. Cohen.
12:25:38 All in favor of that motion?
12:25:41 Any opposed?
12:25:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: And the second item is zip code
12:25:53 approximate 33602, 333603, 333605, and also provide
12:26:01 veterinarian care on a case-by-case basis, all provided by
12:26:07 the humane society of Tampa, and for information, please
12:26:10 call 813-442-2279.
12:26:17 And want to --
12:26:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: How many pockets do you have?
12:26:28 (Laughter).
12:26:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: Some disturbing news that I had a chance
12:26:34 to see and read in the newspaper when we were off, and the
12:26:44 situation in Ybor City, I would ask to -- like to ask Ms.
12:26:49 Lattimore to come to council on a staff report to give us an
12:26:54 update about the contract regarding security incorporated
12:27:01 and what they plan -- how they plan to evaluate their
12:27:04 contract as we move forward with be the city.
12:27:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Reddick.
12:27:13 Second by Mr. Cohen.
12:27:14 All in favor of that motion?
12:27:16 Any opposed?
12:27:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: The second item is, I would also like for
12:27:20 code enforcement to appear to the council to give us an
12:27:23 update report on on the river, the feature story with the
12:27:31 water damage, potholes, and the mold and mildew, and
12:27:40 hopefully code enforcement get an update under staff
12:27:44 reports.
12:27:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion by Mr. Reddick.
12:27:47 Second from Mr. Miranda.
12:27:48 All in favor of that motion?
12:27:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: The last item, I want to request a
12:27:56 ten-minute presentation for the press program coordinated on
12:28:02 August 25th at 9 a.m.
12:28:05 Motion by Mr. Reddick.
12:28:07 Soaked by Mrs. Montelione.
12:28:08 All in favor of that motion?
12:28:10 Anything else, sir?
12:28:11 Okay.
12:28:12 Mr. Cohen.
12:28:12 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
12:28:14 I have a couple of items.
12:28:19 First of all it is that time of year when we are going to
12:28:21 set our budget public hearings.
12:28:23 After much discussion of our various schedules and keeping
12:28:26 in mind our need to coordinate of what we are doing on the
12:28:30 calendar with the school board and what the county are
12:28:33 doing, I am going to ask council to set the first public --
12:28:38 budget public hearing on Wednesday, September 7th at
12:28:42 5:01 p.m.
12:28:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:28:46 Second from Mrs. Montelione.
12:28:47 All in favor of that motion?
12:28:50 >>HARRY COHEN: And then to set the second public budget
12:28:54 hearing for Wednesday night, September 21st at 5:01 p.m.
12:28:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:29:00 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:29:01 All in favor of that motion?
12:29:03 >>HARRY COHEN: And then Councilman Reddick and I were both
12:29:08 interviewed on a story that aired last night on one of the
12:29:14 local networks related to nightclub safety.
12:29:16 And there have been so many bad incidents that have occurred
12:29:20 in this country over the last couple of weeks that it is
12:29:24 almost impossible to quantify all of them, because they all
12:29:28 involved different elements of society.
12:29:33 But prior to when we went on break, of course there was the
12:29:36 incident that occurred in Orlando that led to such a tragic
12:29:40 loss of life, and it did cause, think, some of us to reflect
12:29:44 on the need to review our safety and security procedures
12:29:49 that are in place in nightclubs across the city.
12:29:52 So I was going to ask the legal department, TPD, and also
12:29:57 representatives from than the YCDC and the SoHo business
12:30:01 alliance, and anyone else who might be appropriate, to come
12:30:04 to come here under staff reports on September 1st and
12:30:08 give us an update on the procedures that we are following,
12:30:12 and any recommendations that any of them might have on
12:30:15 things we can do to make and keep patrons safer who are out.
12:30:23 >> Second by Mr. Reddick.
12:30:25 All in favor of that motion?
12:30:27 Anything else, sir?
12:30:29 >>HARRY COHEN: I also wanted to just note for the record
12:30:33 the passing of my good friend Daisy Frank a few weeks ago.
12:30:37 I would like to ask that council send a letter of condolence
12:30:40 to her mother, the clerk of the circuit court, pat Frank,
12:30:45 and also that I make sure to invite anyone in the public
12:30:51 that would like to attend her memorial service on July
12:30:53 20th at the Tampa Museum of Art at 6 p.m.
12:30:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:30:59 Second by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:31:02 All in favor of that motion?
12:31:03 Any opposed? Thank you, sir.
12:31:05 Mr. Maniscalco, anything?
12:31:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: No, sir.
12:31:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione?
12:31:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes, sir.
12:31:10 And I am going to have to ask for your patience as well.
12:31:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do we want to add more time?
12:31:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, we are already at 12:35.
12:31:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Why don't we add two more minutes?
12:31:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: 12:37?
12:31:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: 12:37.
12:31:30 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
12:31:31 All in favor?
12:31:32 Go ahead.
12:31:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mr. Cohen, if you can do an assist with
12:31:35 the calendar here.
12:31:36 I would like to ask neighborhood empowerment to give us a
12:31:41 report on the collection, we approved a couple of the
12:31:53 committee's report for the continuously demolition of homes
12:32:01 and mowing and clearing, and I know we just talked about
12:32:04 that back from a few years ago we had a lot of those go out.
12:32:09 I would like to have a report on the number of liens related
12:32:12 to code enforcement, removal of accumulations, mowing or
12:32:19 demolition of property, the amount of money that's
12:32:22 collected, and have that broken down between the demolition
12:32:26 and the demolitions are much more expensive, and if we
12:32:32 coffee that August 25th at 9:00 a.m. under staff
12:32:37 reports.
12:32:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion by Mrs. Montelione.
12:32:41 Second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:32:43 All in favor of that motion?
12:32:45 Thank you.
12:32:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Also related to the subject we spoke
12:32:49 about before, earlier today, the minority business, I would
12:32:53 like the chair of the EBOAC committee to appear before
12:32:59 council to report on their recent meeting, and if the
12:33:01 provisions contained within the ordinance have been met.
12:33:09 Do we have a date?
12:33:11 Why don't we go with the 25th?
12:33:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion from Mrs. Montelione, a
12:33:17 second from Mr. Maniscalco.
12:33:19 All in favor of that motion?
12:33:21 Go ahead, ma'am.
12:33:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Also related to a subject we just heard
12:33:25 about a few minutes ago, the abuse hotline, if I could ask
12:33:30 for Kimberley Crum from human resources Franked
12:33:34 communications Mrs. Bowman to appear and discuss under staff
12:33:38 reports efforts to pro promote the hotline.
12:33:43 September 1st would be lovely.
12:33:45 9:00 a.m.
12:33:46 >> Motion by Mrs. Montelione.
12:33:47 Second by Mr. Maniscalco.
12:33:50 All in favor of that motion?
12:33:53 Any opposed?
12:33:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That would be it.
12:33:56 Thank you so much.
12:33:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That is it.
12:33:58 I need a motion to receive and fail.
12:33:59 I have a motion by Mr. Miranda, second from Mrs. Montelione.
12:34:03 All in favor of that motion?
12:34:05 Anyone in the public that would like to make a general
12:34:07 comment at this time?
12:34:09 I see two ladies up there.
12:34:12 Do you want to say anything or is this just entertainment?
12:34:15 Great, there you go.
12:34:16 And if there is nothing else before City Council, we are
12:34:19 adjourned.
12:34:21
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