Tampa City Council
Thursday, October 13, 2016
5:30 p.m. Session
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05:01:21
05:29:24 [Sounding gavel]
05:35:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Tampa City Council is called into order.
05:35:40 Clerk, take the roll, please.
05:35:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
05:35:47 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
05:35:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
05:35:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
05:35:52 We have two public hearings that are continued public
05:35:55 hearings.
05:35:55 So they are already open.
05:35:56 But we do need to swear in folks that might want to speak on
05:36:01 items number 1 or number 2 that we are going to talk about
05:36:04 right now.
05:36:04 If anyone would like to speak before the council, please
05:36:08 stand and raise your right hand and be sworn in.
05:36:12 (Oath administered by Clerk).
05:36:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
05:36:22 Staff?
05:36:27 Mrs. Moreda?
05:36:28 Do you want to reset the table for us on this?
05:36:31 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Land development.
05:36:32 The cases were continued.
05:36:35 The city has initiated the rezoning to a planned development
05:36:39 district for the property showing the club use as the
05:36:44 permitted use.
05:36:46 I'm not sure where Abbye went.
05:36:48 She was going to give the report of the rezoning.
05:36:52 I can assume rise the changes to the alcohol.
05:37:02 The special use for alcoholic small venue, beer, wine,
05:37:06 liquor, on premises consumption only, they are indicating
05:37:09 that the use of the property is for nonprofit private club.
05:37:15 They are needing a waiver to allow -- there's a very small
05:37:19 portion of the property that has their loading area that is
05:37:24 included in the AB area.
05:37:27 The AB area, AB sales area, is the entire private lot of lot
05:37:33 1 where the building sits on, and there's a small area where
05:37:36 the drive-aisle goes through.
05:37:39 So I have indicated that they need that waiver.
05:37:43 Otherwise, they are fine.
05:37:47 The total area for the outside area is 7,193 square feet.
05:37:56 The inside area, 2,182 square feet for a total of 9,335
05:38:04 square feet.
05:38:05 Staff is concerned about the size of the area that's being
05:38:09 proposed for the AB sales area.
05:38:11 We would prefer to see it shrink basically to the building
05:38:15 footprint and possibly that outdoor patio area.
05:38:19 There are some site plan changes that need to be made.
05:38:24 They are minor, though, depending on what council's
05:38:27 preference is on this petition.
05:38:30 But at this point, staff found it inconsistent.
05:38:32 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
05:38:40 This is REZ 16-65, council, when this application was
05:38:47 brought before you two months ago there was concern related
05:38:52 to the CM zoning of the property, and it was directed by
05:38:55 council of that we go ahead and do an area wide PD on the
05:39:01 property.
05:39:02 You have those plans in front of you.
05:39:06 They look like this.
05:39:10 The PD that is before you tonight, there are no waivers
05:39:18 being requested.
05:39:20 It is to the existing structure and use in its current
05:39:27 location, and to allow for development as RS-60 which is
05:39:34 what it is now.
05:39:36 An RS-60 zoning now.
05:39:38 So the way we have done the PD, it would allow for this to
05:39:41 be developed as single-family residential detached, or for
05:39:45 the club to be remain in its current configuration.
05:39:49 Any modification or expansion of use would be subject to
05:39:54 substantial change criteria as well as any subsequent
05:39:58 rezoning.
05:39:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions of Mrs. Feeley?
05:40:08 Okay, petitioner?
05:40:11 Sorry.
05:40:11 I didn't realize Planning Commission was going to make an
05:40:14 appearance again.
05:40:15 You are a little bit shorter than Mr. Hay.
05:40:20 I couldn't see you.
05:40:22 >> I'm sorry.
05:40:24 Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff.
05:40:27 I was hiding out.
05:40:28 I want to quickly go over Planning Commission finding report
05:40:32 which is in the central Tampa planning district.
05:40:34 I will go to the aerial quickly.
05:40:36 This is the expressway.
05:40:37 This is the subject site.
05:40:39 And then this is the future land use map.
05:40:44 Our primary concern was that the previous rezoning would
05:40:47 allow a variety of personal neighborhood uses that would be
05:40:51 incompatible with the neighborhood.
05:40:52 But now that it's a planned development, we find this
05:40:56 compatible compare obviously with the surround recognizing
05:41:01 neighborhood and the comprehensive plan.
05:41:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
05:41:05 Okay, petitioner, now you can go.
05:41:07 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: My address is suite 3700 Bank of America
05:41:13 Plaza, and I have the pleasure of representing the VFW post
05:41:18 this evening.
05:41:19 I am also joined by Mr. NAT hall of our office who is an
05:41:23 officer within the post and I would like to begin my
05:41:26 comments by thanking and complimenting the staff for rapidly
05:41:29 putting together an area-wide rezoning, and that that
05:41:34 compliment goes to Mrs. Feeley, Mrs. Mandell, Mrs. Kert, and
05:41:38 Mrs. Moreda, Jimmy Cook of the right-of-way department who
05:41:42 is not here this evening but also I want to recognize him
05:41:45 for their rapid attention to this application on behalf of
05:41:48 the VFW post.
05:41:51 I would like to go in reverse order and talk about the PD
05:41:54 application that's pending before you, which has been
05:41:57 received, findings of consistency by your staff and also by
05:42:00 the Planning Commission staff.
05:42:02 We have prepared four conditions related to that approval
05:42:08 which I have negotiated with Mrs. Elise Batsel on behalf of
05:42:15 the Hyde Park neighborhood association.
05:42:17 Those conditions -- I apologize to Mrs. Feeley on the
05:42:21 lateness of those conditions, but they basically provide
05:42:25 that the property will be used as a club or --
05:42:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Grandoff, do you have any other copies
05:42:31 that we might be able to --
05:42:33 >> No.
05:42:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I don't know about you, I think opposing
05:42:37 council does all the way in the back.
05:42:38 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Look at that.
05:42:43 And he was kind enough to prepare some comments.
05:42:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'm glad to hear that.
05:42:49 Because you are going to have to blow that up a lot for us
05:42:52 to read it and I'm not sure if I speak for all my
05:42:55 colleagues.
05:43:04 A new prescription, I guess, so ...
05:43:10 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Those are my notes.
05:43:11 I'm putting okay on the left side which means agreement.
05:43:14 And this confirms my telephone conference this morning with
05:43:17 Mrs. Batsel.
05:43:21 Condition one limits the use.
05:43:22 Condition two recognizes what a club is. Condition three
05:43:25 recognizes the club subject to Hyde Park historic district
05:43:28 regulations.
05:43:30 And condition 4 binds us to related provisions of the City
05:43:34 of Tampa code of ordinances.
05:43:51 One question.
05:43:52 Do you have any questions from council of Mr. Grandoff?
05:43:54 I guess the only question I would have is about -- this is
05:43:57 about the rezone.
05:43:59 In terms of the special use, though, how does that work if
05:44:05 it is deemed to go back to residential?
05:44:09 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Well, that's in the special use
05:44:11 conditions.
05:44:11 Right now we are just working on the PD conditions.
05:44:14 And the special use conditions, what we provided is that if
05:44:22 the alcoholic beverage license is revoked or terminated on
05:44:27 the property, that they lose the special use approval.
05:44:31 And that's a condition of the special application.
05:44:36 I haven't provided that to you as of yet.
05:44:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I was just curious.
05:44:42 Any questions from council of the petitioner at this point?
05:44:46 Okay.
05:44:46 Anything else from staff about this particular rezone?
05:44:50 All right.
05:44:52 We can go on -- if you are done with your presentation, sir.
05:44:55 I wasn't sure if you were.
05:44:57 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Yes, I am complete on that and request
05:45:00 your approval on the planned development application this
05:45:02 evening.
05:45:04 I will reserve the remainder of multifamily time for
05:45:07 rebuttal.
05:45:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much. This is on item number
05:45:10 1. If there's anyone in the public to speak on item number
05:45:12 1 which is the rezone of the property in question, please
05:45:15 come forward and state your name and address, please.
05:45:23 You can take them together.
05:45:24 I don't think that's an issue.
05:45:25 Is there, Mr. Shelby?
05:45:27 If you want to talk about either the rezone itself or the
05:45:31 special use, which is the alcohol sales, please come
05:45:34 forward.
05:45:35 Yes, ma'am.
05:45:35 >> I just wanted to -- I there are five conditions on my
05:45:41 site plan, or on the city's site plan that we put together.
05:45:46 These four roughly are identical to those.
05:45:48 They are just condensed in other ways.
05:45:51 The language is the same.
05:45:52 So staff would be fine in between first and second reading
05:45:55 if those items were to change, that Mr. Grandoff provided.
05:46:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
05:46:04 I appreciate it.
05:46:05 Anyone in the public like to speak at this time on this
05:46:07 item?
05:46:08 Please come forward.
05:46:10 State your name and address.
05:46:11 >> Mark Gusfield.
05:46:14 My mom owns the house directly across the street from the
05:46:17 property.
05:46:19 And I guess mainly I have some questions about the special
05:46:23 use.
05:46:25 And I was wondering if you could answer those questions.
05:46:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Why don't you ask the questions of us and
05:46:31 then I will have them answered for you.
05:46:33 How is that?
05:46:34 >> I guess the main concern is not so much that the VFW
05:46:37 continues in its current form, but what happens if the VFW
05:46:41 sells the property or changes the use of the property
05:46:44 somehow? What are the restrictions?
05:46:47 What are the protections for the neighborhood, you know,
05:46:51 putting in an office building or condo or bar or something
05:46:54 else across the street?
05:46:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Keep going if there's other questions you
05:46:58 have, please let us know so that if Mr. Grandoff, who is
05:47:02 behind you, and the staff will be writing this down so we
05:47:06 can figure out how to answer your questions.
05:47:07 >> Yes, and most of my questions pertain to that because
05:47:11 it's not the current use that's the issue, to the
05:47:15 neighborhood.
05:47:15 It's what can happen down the road, you know.
05:47:20 Does this rezoning, the PD, give the folks who own the place
05:47:25 now the right to sell it and do whatever else according to
05:47:31 the PD or is it strictly a VFW deal and if the VFW goes
05:47:38 away, does the special zoning go away?
05:47:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right.
05:47:41 Terrific.
05:47:42 And staff will answer those questions and go from there.
05:47:46 I think I can answer them myself but I am not going to.
05:47:48 I am going to let the lawyer do it instead because I get in
05:47:52 trouble.
05:47:52 >> Because both my dad and myself are veterans, and
05:47:56 retirees, and I appreciate the VFW.
05:48:01 But it would be really nice to keep commercial on the other
05:48:05 side of the Crosstown, because a lot of pressure from all of
05:48:08 the units that are being built on the other side of the
05:48:11 Crosstown, all that have been built on the other side of the
05:48:18 Crosstown.
05:48:18 There's a lot more traffic on our street and don't want to
05:48:20 make it any worse.
05:48:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
05:48:22 I appreciate it.
05:48:23 Anyone else who have would like to speak?
05:48:25 Yes, ma'am, come forward.
05:48:26 >> Patricia Bastille, and I own the house across the street.
05:48:31 And years ago, we accepted the fact that the VFW was there
05:48:37 and we trusted the governance of rules and laws and
05:48:42 ordinances.
05:48:43 And they need to, because it's not a totalitarian
05:48:51 government.
05:48:51 We have to trust our citizens to do what they are supposed
05:48:54 to do according to the rules and regs, and the citizens in
05:48:59 return trust the government.
05:49:01 And I wonder why it took 72 years to get a liquor license in
05:49:05 there.
05:49:06 I trusted that that property was being run and properly
05:49:11 managed at the time that they had the fire and the big
05:49:16 redoing of the property was done.
05:49:19 They still didn't have a liquor license.
05:49:21 They have never had a liquor license.
05:49:23 They have been doing business there.
05:49:24 What would happen to any other citizen if they had any kind
05:49:28 of a business?
05:49:32 Because that was a business.
05:49:33 It wasn't a private club.
05:49:35 They never refused service to anyone.
05:49:36 They never asked anyone if you belong.
05:49:39 Anyone could walk in and out of there.
05:49:41 And I lost my trust.
05:49:44 I have lost my trust in the council, in the people that
05:49:50 managed to come across with this, and make it a commercial
05:49:53 zone now, spot zoning in a residential historic
05:49:56 neighborhood.
05:49:58 I had trust and spent money and invested my old age in that
05:50:04 house across the street.
05:50:06 And it's all coming apart because you can't trust the VFW
05:50:13 people, no matter what they agree to.
05:50:16 They have broken the trust for years.
05:50:18 They have never had a liquor license.
05:50:21 And they have been operating, buying and selling alcohol.
05:50:26 Can I open up a little wine shop in my place and get a
05:50:30 little PD, you know, and have a place to make some money an
05:50:37 not pay any real estate tax, because they are a chartable
05:50:40 organization?
05:50:42 They are destroying my trust.
05:50:44 They are doing -- the fix is in apparently.
05:50:48 Everything is dandy, and they are going to have -- are they
05:50:53 going to be controlled?
05:50:54 What kind of a liquor license are they going to have?
05:50:56 I would like to hear him tell me that.
05:50:58 What kind of property are they going to be running?
05:51:01 Because you can't trust them, because they haven't been
05:51:03 doing it right for 72 years.
05:51:06 Thank you.
05:51:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
05:51:08 Appreciate it.
05:51:09 Is there anyone else in the public that would like to speak
05:51:11 at this time?
05:51:12 Please come forward.
05:51:12 >> My name is Joseph Dempsey, currently the commander of the
05:51:22 post.
05:51:23 We have been there over 70 years.
05:51:24 We have no plans of leaving that place.
05:51:26 And we got agreement --
05:51:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Excuse me for just a second.
05:51:31 Mrs. Bastille, you said your piece.
05:51:34 Please.
05:51:34 You said your piece.
05:51:35 We have to run a meeting.
05:51:36 This is not an open forum.
05:51:38 Ma'am.
05:51:39 Ma'am.
05:51:39 Ma'am.
05:51:40 You said your piece.
05:51:42 I'm sorry.
05:51:42 But -- I gave your son some time to ask questions and we'll
05:51:46 get those answered.
05:51:47 You cannot just keep talking while someone else is trying to
05:51:50 talk.
05:51:51 Okay, please.
05:51:55 Go ahead, sir.
05:51:56 >> I have been the commander this second time around since
05:52:01 2008.
05:52:02 And like I said, we have no plans to leave it.
05:52:06 And if we do leave, it's going to be residential, you know.
05:52:11 But we have been there 370 years.
05:52:13 We are not going nowhere.
05:52:15 That's all I want to say.
05:52:16 We are not going anywhere.
05:52:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
05:52:19 Anyone else in the public like to speak at this time?
05:52:21 Please come forward.
05:52:24 And to make it a little easier, if you are planning on
05:52:27 speaking, if you can line up on either side of the side of
05:52:30 the chambers, that would be great.
05:52:32 Thank you.
05:52:32 Yes, ma'am.
05:52:33 >> My name is Pat Stapleton.
05:52:36 I'm the adjuvant at VFW 4321.
05:52:41 And it helps to have a post, operational to work out of.
05:52:47 At this time, the post has been closed except for meetings.
05:52:51 And I volunteer at the James Haley V.A. hospital.
05:52:58 I have probably over 300 hours of volunteer time.
05:53:02 And we collect blankets for service members.
05:53:05 We take toiletry items to the nurses station.
05:53:11 And to work with an operational post would make it so much
05:53:14 easier to volunteer.
05:53:18 And it would be an honor to Harris and Santa Cruz who the
05:53:27 post is named after.
05:53:28 Thank you very much.
05:53:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
05:53:31 Next, please.
05:53:31 >> Brian Sailer, 104163 -- Drive, Tampa, Florida 33626.
05:53:41 According to hillsboroughcounty.org more than 94,000
05:53:44 veterans live in Hillsborough County.
05:53:46 Second largest population of veterans in Florida is here in
05:53:50 Hillsborough County.
05:53:50 As you know, MacDill Air Force Base is located here,
05:53:53 command such as CENTCOM, SOCOM, MarCENT, Air Mobility
05:53:58 Command, SOC CENT, more than 15,000 people work at
05:54:02 MacDill Air Force Base.
05:54:03 The sole function of post 4321 is to take care of veterans.
05:54:09 While they are in service and after service.
05:54:11 This is what we have done for 70 years.
05:54:15 I ask you to please consider this application.
05:54:18 A vote of no for this application is a vote of no for
05:54:22 946,000 veterans that live in Hillsborough County.
05:54:25 It's a vote for no for 15,000 active duty members that work
05:54:30 out at MacDill Air Force Base.
05:54:32 Thank you for your time.
05:54:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
05:54:34 Next, please.
05:54:38 Come on up.
05:54:39 I'll stop you if you are in the wrong place.
05:54:41 Go ahead.
05:54:41 >> Hi.
05:54:42 My name is Patricia summerville.
05:54:45 I live at 2107 west Segal Avenue.
05:54:49 I have lived in Hyde Park for 20-some-odd years in three
05:54:54 different locations.
05:54:55 We moved a few months ago having lived on Morrison a couple
05:54:59 blocks from the VFW.
05:55:04 Hyde Park is a residential family and historic neighborhood.
05:55:10 There are many residences, family residences within feet of
05:55:18 this property.
05:55:23 Not 250 feet that is required for wet zoning.
05:55:27 And the reason they are requesting a change of zoning is to
05:55:31 get the wet zoning.
05:55:34 So I -- and I am speaking for my husband as well who had to
05:55:39 go to another business event -- the owners request a change
05:55:44 of zoning because it's for the use of a liquor license.
05:55:52 The purpose of the VFW as the gentleman before me spoke said
05:55:57 it's to serve the veterans, not to serve alcohol.
05:56:00 Thank you.
05:56:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
05:56:03 Next, please.
05:56:04 Anyone else?
05:56:05 Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item
05:56:07 at this time, member of the public?
05:56:11 Okay, I see no one.
05:56:13 Go ahead.
05:56:13 Yes, sir.
05:56:13 >>HARRY COHEN: I would just like to hear from Mrs. Bastille
05:56:18 very quickly about the conditions that Mr. Grandoff
05:56:21 presented to us, because at the last hearing, everyone was
05:56:28 sort of sent away to negotiate.
05:56:31 And I'm wondering if you could just say on the record what
05:56:34 your position is on this application and on the conditions
05:56:38 that were presented to us.
05:56:39 >> Absolutely.
05:56:41 Elise Batsel, representing Historic Hyde Park situation.
05:56:48 Yes, did we negotiate these conditions kind of at length.
05:56:52 Our biggest concerns, which will be on the next item, relate
05:56:55 to the wet zoning and how the wet zoning will affect the
05:56:58 neighborhood.
05:56:59 But as far as the PD, the neighborhood association itself is
05:57:04 in agreement with the conditions as provided by Mr.
05:57:06 Grandoff.
05:57:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions at this time?
05:57:13 We appreciate it.
05:57:14 Is there anyone in the public who has not spoken who would
05:57:18 like to speak on this item at this time?
05:57:19 I see no one.
05:57:20 Mr. Grandoff?
05:57:21 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Members of council, I ask that you have
05:57:25 first reading of the ordinance this evening, approving the
05:57:29 project, and then we would revise the site plan to
05:57:32 incorporate these four conditions verbatim on the site plan.
05:57:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: [Off microphone.]
05:57:43 >>REBECCA KERT: I didn't know if you wanted me to answer
05:57:45 the questions.
05:57:47 I didn't want to say something after his rebuttal.
05:57:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Kert, if you could explain what is
05:57:52 going on so we understand what is the process and what we
05:57:55 are doing.
05:57:56 >>REBECCA KERT: Rebecca Kert, legal department.
05:57:58 I will try.
05:57:59 This is a planned development.
05:58:02 A planned development describes among other things use as
05:58:07 loud on the property.
05:58:08 It runs with the land.
05:58:09 This particular one has limited uses to single-family and a
05:58:12 club use.
05:58:13 It cannot be anything other than a single-family or a club
05:58:15 use without coming back to City Council.
05:58:18 However, it is not tied and it is not able to be tied to the
05:58:24 applicants applicant in this particular case because it runs
05:58:26 with the land, not the petitioner.
05:58:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So if I could, before you leave, if for some
05:58:33 reason VFW decides to close their doors, and they want to
05:58:37 sell that property, the restriction is not on whoever the
05:58:41 next buyer is, they still have to come to us for rezone?
05:58:45 Is that what it is?
05:58:46 >>REBECCA KERT: No, the subsequent purchaser would have to
05:58:49 abide by the PD as is, meaning it would have to either be a
05:58:52 club or single-family dwelling, or they would have to come
05:58:56 back to City Council and accept the change.
05:58:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Bastille, if you want to come up one
05:59:05 more time, I am going to let you speak again, if you don't
05:59:08 mind.
05:59:09 I wanted to make sure your questions are answered.
05:59:13 Did any of that make sense to you?
05:59:14 Did you understand it?
05:59:15 >> It didn't answer --
05:59:20 >> What's a club?
05:59:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The club definition is in our code.
05:59:24 And it's on the plan.
05:59:26 So if you could --
05:59:31 >> I guess I am concerned about the future.
05:59:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Absolutely.
05:59:33 And Mr. Bastille, I want you to know, I am trying to make
05:59:37 sure you get your questions answered.
05:59:39 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
05:59:42 The conditions that are on the plan right now that were put
05:59:45 on by the city, on the overhead, that Mr. Grandoff said they
05:59:54 specified per code, and section 27-43 that defines, club is
05:59:58 defined as an establishment operated by a corporation or
06:00:02 association of persons for social, literary, political,
06:00:06 educational, fraternal or charitable purpose but which is
06:00:09 not operated for profit or to render a service which is
06:00:14 customarily conducted as a business.
06:00:19 We put club on there and then we put the definition
06:00:21 afterwards to even narrow it down that this is exactly what
06:00:24 it could be.
06:00:25 So it can either be operated as a club, in its current
06:00:29 footprint in the current building, no other development, or
06:00:32 be developed as residential single-family, detached, which
06:00:35 is houses.
06:00:37 And those would have to meet the RS-60 standard which is a
06:00:40 60 by 100 lot, and they would have to come through
06:00:43 administratively and show us that before they could take the
06:00:47 footprint off of the building that's currently there.
06:00:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:00:52 Mr. Cohen.
06:00:52 >>HARRY COHEN: And just to be clear, when we are talking
06:00:55 about club, we are not talking about a nightclub.
06:00:58 We are talking about a not-for-profit club, and we are
06:01:02 talking about something that would have to operate exactly
06:01:09 in the exact footprint of what's there now?
06:01:14 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Yes.
06:01:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right.
06:01:21 Mr. Bastille, did that answer your question?
06:01:23 When I am talking to you, come up to the podium.
06:01:26 I want to make sure that had you get your say, sir.
06:01:28 >> Thank you.
06:01:31 The definitions of clubs that were not nonprofit?
06:01:35 >>ABBYE FEELEY: There's only one definition of club.
06:01:37 It is what I read.
06:01:38 That would be the only thing allowed on the property.
06:01:40 >> But it said like literary and social and --
06:01:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: What's your question?
06:01:45 I mean, what is your question?
06:01:48 >>ABBYE FEELEY: And it has to be conducted by a nonprofit.
06:01:50 >> Okay.
06:01:51 Thank you.
06:01:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: It has to be a nonprofit.
06:01:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
06:01:56 Now, is there anyone else in the public that would like to
06:01:59 speak that has not spoken?
06:02:02 Come forward now.
06:02:02 >> Move to close.
06:02:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion to close.
06:02:07 Mr. Grandoff, did you want to have any more rebuttal?
06:02:10 >> I ask that you approve.
06:02:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion to close from Mr. Reddick,
06:02:19 a second by Mr. Maniscalco.
06:02:21 All in favor?
06:02:22 Any opposed?
06:02:23 Thank you.
06:02:25 On this item number 1, Mrs. Montelione, will you please take
06:02:28 item number 1?
06:02:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, there is a substitute that
06:02:35 has been provided to council.
06:02:36 >>HARRY COHEN: It's on the agenda.
06:02:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
06:02:41 I move -- it is?
06:02:44 Continued public hearing -- I don't have that one.
06:02:51 I have the one that was sent earlier.
06:02:54 I move a substitute ordinance being presented for first
06:02:56 reading consideration.
06:02:58 An ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida relating to an
06:03:00 area rezoning, the general location of which is 2010 west
06:03:03 Morrison Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida from zoning
06:03:06 district classification RS-60 residential, single-family, to
06:03:10 zoning classification PD, planned development, private club
06:03:13 or residential, single-family, provide for noticing,
06:03:17 providing an effective date, with the revisions as submitted
06:03:19 by staff, and whatever it is that needs to be made between
06:03:24 first and second reading.
06:03:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mrs. Montelione, a
06:03:29 second from Mr. Maniscalco.
06:03:30 All in favor of that motion?
06:03:32 Any opposed?
06:03:33 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried with Miranda being absent
06:03:37 at vote.
06:03:38 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
06:03:40 9:30 a.m.
06:03:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:03:42 Item number 2.
06:03:43 Mr. Grandoff.
06:03:45 I mean, does staff have anything about this before we go
06:03:49 forward on item 2 on the special use?
06:03:51 Mrs. Moreda.
06:03:51 >>GLORIA MOREDA: Well, I gave you the report already.
06:03:54 But in terms of the conditions that are being proposed by
06:03:57 both the neighborhood and Mr. Grandoff, staff is not
06:04:03 supportive of number 3.
06:04:04 I don't believe that one can be enforced.
06:04:10 I will let the legal department elaborate.
06:04:12 >> Kristin Mora, legal department.
06:04:18 We do have a concern about number 3.
06:04:20 We don't believe it is enforceable with the preemption on
06:04:23 certain types of alcoholic beverage issues.
06:04:28 Has to be 11 feet.
06:04:29 They might be able to specify that.
06:04:31 11 feet being the type of club alcoholic beverage license
06:04:35 that in the state.
06:04:38 >>HARRY COHEN: I think you are talk being a different set
06:04:42 of conditions.
06:04:43 Or maybe it would help.
06:04:44 >> It's different from the PD conditions.
06:04:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If anyone has those conditions it would be
06:04:49 great to share those with us.
06:04:50 >> KRISTIN MORA: Thank goodness for Abbye Feeley.
06:05:06 The conditions specifically deals with the revocation of the
06:05:10 alcoholic beverage, the AB permit, in the event that it
06:05:15 is -- they no longer have a license with the state.
06:05:19 We do have a provision in our code that provides for if they
06:05:24 go into six months of nonuse.
06:05:26 So we do have a provision of our code which would be
06:05:28 self-executing with regard to number 3.
06:05:30 My other concern is that it can't be tied to a specific
06:05:33 applicant if it runs with the land.
06:05:35 So for several reasons we would encourage you to not adopt
06:05:38 condition number 3. If there are some other conditions, we
06:05:40 would advise you whether or not we think those are
06:05:42 conditions that council could undertake.
06:05:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
06:05:47 Legal?
06:05:49 I have one question.
06:05:51 And this is a little different than what we would normally
06:05:54 see when we are doing a land use hearing when it comes to
06:05:56 special use.
06:06:00 They could, based on if we took out item 3 according to the
06:06:04 changes that you have here, they could still operate their
06:06:07 club, to operate with selling alcohol, but that is not tied
06:06:14 to whether or not the state revokes or they give up their
06:06:19 license, is that correct, with the state?
06:06:22 >> It would not be tied directly to their licensing with the
06:06:24 state.
06:06:25 They are required, it's mandatory they get a license through
06:06:28 the state. If they lose their license with the state our
06:06:30 code provides that if someone ceases to use their alcoholic
06:06:34 beverage permit for six months, we then end the wet status
06:06:37 of that piece of property.
06:06:38 So it would be self-executing in that respect, which if they
06:06:42 no longer have a license with the state they are no longer
06:06:45 legally authorized to sell alcohol.
06:06:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I am not talking about a circumstance in
06:06:49 which they still own the land or that they decide -- that's
06:06:52 the issue, really.
06:06:52 >> You are asking if the VFW were to transfer the land?
06:06:58 Existing rules would apply.
06:07:00 Those same rules would go forward with the land and with the
06:07:03 alcoholic beverage permit.
06:07:04 These are approvals that go with the land.
06:07:07 So the same rules would apply to the next owner of the
06:07:10 property.
06:07:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Meaning that somebody could still sell
06:07:15 alcohol at the property?
06:07:17 >> That's correct.
06:07:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The question is, is that based on the
06:07:20 previous hearing concerning the land use, even if it is now
06:07:25 residential?
06:07:28 You see, we are kind of in a conundrum of how this works.
06:07:33 So we need you to be more clear in terms of explaining how
06:07:37 it connects directly to the land use.
06:07:39 Because I can see the questions that are going to be coming
06:07:41 up afterwards.
06:07:42 So please, if you could, try and explain what it is that has
06:07:45 been hammered out by Mr. Grandoff.
06:07:51 >> The PD, approved on first reading, would limit it to only
06:07:56 single-family, or a club use.
06:07:59 There is a specific club license that can be obtained
06:08:02 through the state, and you could add a condition to this
06:08:06 that the only license they are allowed to have is an 11-C
06:08:09 license, a club license.
06:08:11 In terms of single-family, there is no single-family selling
06:08:16 alcohol out of your property.
06:08:17 So regardless of the design of the structure, the uses on
06:08:22 the property would remain only a single-family that would
06:08:24 not be allowed to sell alcoholic beverages.
06:08:27 The state wouldn't give them a license for that.
06:08:29 Or they could have a club and could sell alcoholic beverages
06:08:33 out of part of that club use.
06:08:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:08:36 Any other questions from council?
06:08:38 Any questions at this time?
06:08:40 Thank you.
06:08:41 Appreciate it.
06:08:43 Mr. Grandoff?
06:08:44 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Yes.
06:08:45 Members of council, I agree with the city attorney's opinion
06:08:50 on that issue.
06:08:51 And we would delete condition 3.
06:08:57 And we would agree to limit the permit to an 11-C permit
06:09:03 also.
06:09:04 And remember, if the ownership changed -- now, Mr. Dempsey
06:09:10 just told you it's not going to but if by any stretch of the
06:09:13 imagination it changes the use is still regulated by the PD,
06:09:17 either a RS-60 home or got to be a nonprofit club.
06:09:22 The special use condition -- again I regret that we have
06:09:26 come to have this and we have not reached agreement on all
06:09:31 of them but I can tell you what we have agreed upon and what
06:09:34 we still have discussion about and I believe Mrs. Batsel
06:09:37 will provide he the AB condition.
06:09:40 So just to focus for a moment, the PD has been approved.
06:09:43 So now the use is available to be a special use for
06:09:48 alcoholic beverage sales.
06:09:50 These are the conditions.
06:09:51 Condition one would be the sale of alcoholic beverages shall
06:09:54 be regulated according to city code.
06:09:56 That's self-explanatory.
06:10:00 Condition three, we are going to delete that one.
06:10:04 We will be subject to the city code, and the six-month
06:10:07 window that the city attorney explained to you, and we will
06:10:11 further amplify that by saying we will have an 11-C permit.
06:10:17 Let me back up to condition two.
06:10:21 And to explain that condition and the issue that we have
06:10:26 with this agreement, this is a reduced copy of the site plan
06:10:33 according to the survey.
06:10:36 The neighborhood wants to limit the sales and the
06:10:40 consumption to the yellowed area, which are the four walls
06:10:46 of the building.
06:10:48 Now, the post folks are agreeable to limiting the sales
06:10:54 within the four walls, but they would like to have
06:10:56 permission to consume here, which is the outside patio.
06:11:02 A couple reasons.
06:11:05 Smoking, which is something they would like to enjoy.
06:11:08 Number two, they would like to be able to step outside into
06:11:11 the weather and have an alcoholic beverage of their choice,
06:11:14 socialize outside.
06:11:16 But there will be no sales in the Blue Cross hatch which I
06:11:20 have just provided.
06:11:21 And we would revise the legal description to control sales
06:11:24 only within the yellow.
06:11:27 So what you will not see is a cooler set up with a cash bar
06:11:33 in the cross hatched blue.
06:11:36 That will occur only within the building proper.
06:11:40 And I have revised that condition to say alcoholic beverage
06:11:43 sales shall be limited to the existing footprint of the
06:11:46 building.
06:11:48 New sentence.
06:11:48 Alcoholic beverage consumption is permitted on the patios
06:11:51 adjacent to the building.
06:11:54 That's condition two.
06:11:57 Mrs. Batsel has a provision on that issue.
06:12:01 Skipping down to condition four, they ask that there be no
06:12:05 amplified sound on the property.
06:12:07 We ask that we simply be regulated as any other RS-60 use
06:12:12 would be regulated or any other club would be regulated as
06:12:14 far as sound.
06:12:15 As you know, that ordinance is in place as we speak.
06:12:20 Finally, I have condition four which we would add, which
06:12:27 references an e-mail exchange I have had with Matt, and this
06:12:32 covers the hours of operation.
06:12:35 And while we would prefer to be limited to whatever the city
06:12:38 code regulates, we are agreeing to limit the sales to the
06:12:43 hours of 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. on Monday through Thursday
06:12:48 except for New Year's Eve, Gasparilla, Super Bowl, and an
06:12:52 additional three special events per calendar year.
06:12:55 On Friday through Sunday, the sale would be limited to the
06:12:58 type provided for in the city code.
06:13:00 In other words, on weekdays, 11 to 11.
06:13:04 On the weekend, according to city code, like anyone else is
06:13:08 allowed to do.
06:13:13 Staff will have disagreement on that condition.
06:13:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We'll get to her to have her say at that
06:13:18 time.
06:13:18 Go ahead, Mrs. Capin.
06:13:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Why don't you keep it city code and just
06:13:22 open 11 to 11?
06:13:25 City code is city code.
06:13:26 You can open anytime in between.
06:13:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ:
06:13:29 >> we would simply be agreeable to that.
06:13:32 That's simpler.
06:13:33 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The other thing on the alcoholic sales or
06:13:36 the amplified, you are talking about amplified sound on
06:13:39 property.
06:13:39 That means inside and outside or just amplified sound
06:13:43 inside?
06:13:44 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I think it's pretty broad.
06:13:47 No amplified sound on the property which I think is a little
06:13:49 strict.
06:13:50 And we would like to be regulated by the noise ordinance.
06:13:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Where would you have the amplified sound,
06:13:56 inside, outside?
06:13:58 Whereof.
06:13:58 >> Could be either one but could not violate the city code.
06:14:02 Just as any other residential use.
06:14:05 >>YVONNE CAPIN: What doo we have on outside amplification?
06:14:10 Rebecca, anybody?
06:14:12 >>REBECCA KERT: There -- it's currently regulated by how
06:14:24 loud it is.
06:14:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The sound ordinance.
06:14:27 >> Yes.
06:14:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: But it does not have hours or anything like
06:14:33 that.
06:14:33 >>REBECCA KERT: There are, at a certain time, the decibel
06:14:38 levels that it's allowed to be just quieter.
06:14:43 I don't have the code in front of me.
06:14:45 I believe it's 10 p.m.
06:14:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It gets lower but there's no time.
06:14:51 >>REBECCA KERT: Yes.
06:14:53 >>GLORIA MOREDA: I just wanted to say there are some
06:14:57 alcoholic special uses that do limit outdoor amplified sound
06:15:02 to no later than 11 p.m.
06:15:05 But not at this.
06:15:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Not at this.
06:15:12 Okay.
06:15:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Go ahead.
06:15:14 >>HARRY COHEN: For clarification of what you were referring
06:15:19 to related to the hours.
06:15:21 I'm not sure I'm clear on what was said there.
06:15:28 Are they now allowed to be open till 3 in the morning during
06:15:31 the week?
06:15:33 Under the formulation that you were --
06:15:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: If it's city code they can open at any
06:15:38 time.
06:15:39 >>HARRY COHEN: So they have agreed to be closing at 11
06:15:43 during the week.
06:15:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And city code on the weekends?
06:15:47 >>HARRY COHEN: And city code on the weekends.
06:15:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yeah, I follow.
06:15:51 >>HARRY COHEN: So why don't we hear from everyone?
06:15:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Grandoff?
06:16:01 Mr. Grandoff, have you completed your --
06:16:06 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Almost.
06:16:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is it okay if we complete the presentation
06:16:09 or do you want to ask him now?
06:16:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I guess.
06:16:12 Everybody else is.
06:16:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No, I'm asking you.
06:16:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I don't know if this is your
06:16:19 handwriting, Mr. Grandoff.
06:16:21 >> It is, it's my hand scratch.
06:16:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Did you ever go to medical school?
06:16:25 (Laughter)
06:16:28 I don't know what number 4 says.
06:16:30 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Four says E-mass e-mail from me.
06:16:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's why it doesn't make any sense.
06:16:39 Because I don't know what mass e-mail means.
06:16:41 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: That's the one that I just read which said
06:16:44 it would be 11 to 11 Monday through Thursday except New
06:16:48 Year's Eve, Gasparilla, Super Bowl.
06:16:50 Three special events.
06:16:51 Then Friday through Sunday it would be by city code.
06:16:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: All right.
06:16:56 So that answers that question for me.
06:16:58 And up by number 4, it says --
06:17:06 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Delete number four. We want no
06:17:08 regulation.
06:17:08 No superseding regulation on sound, we would be regulated
06:17:12 like anyone else.
06:17:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
06:17:14 Okay.
06:17:14 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Again I wish I had an internal form for
06:17:19 you but --
06:17:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, I think I it.
06:17:23 Those are the two questions I had.
06:17:24 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: We would propose, if we reached some
06:17:29 accord this evening, that I would return with a revised site
06:17:32 plan on a second reading subject to your approval and also
06:17:36 Mrs. Batsel's comments.
06:17:38 One thing I do want to clarify is that the patio area that
06:17:42 we are speaking of is the cross-hatch in blue which I have
06:17:45 shown right there.
06:17:48 That's all I have.
06:17:49 I simply request your approval.
06:17:51 I reserve the remainder of my comments for rebuttal.
06:17:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions or comments of
06:17:57 petitioner at this time?
06:17:59 Okay.
06:18:00 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak at
06:18:02 this time?
06:18:02 Please come forward and state your name and address.
06:18:05 And before we start, is there anyone that wants to speak
06:18:08 that has not been sworn in at this time?
06:18:11 Please be sworn in if you have not.
06:18:13 Anyone?
06:18:16 I think everyone has been sworn in.
06:18:18 Ma'am.
06:18:18 >> Kathleen Durdin, 1820 west Richardson place, had the of
06:18:26 his pork Hyde Park Civic Association and I have lived in
06:18:29 Hyde Park for 26 years.
06:18:31 And my testimony to the council on September 21st, I
06:18:34 talked about how the neighbors, the homeowners in Hyde Park
06:18:36 over the past 40 years substantially invested in the
06:18:39 neighborhood to develop it into a desirable residential
06:18:42 neighborhood that is the showcase for Tampa.
06:18:46 I want to point out where this property is.
06:18:49 It's right here.
06:18:51 Notice that it is on the east side of the CXS line.
06:18:56 Commercial development is over here. This is an entirely
06:18:59 neighborhood area.
06:19:00 Because of the desirability and family schools and parks,
06:19:04 this is a very family friendly neighborhood.
06:19:07 We have attracted a number of families with children that
06:19:09 are elementary age and younger.
06:19:11 Many.
06:19:11 Neighbors have very small children that take advantage of
06:19:15 this residential neighborhood.
06:19:16 It's a very walkable neighborhood.
06:19:18 It's pedestrian friendly and bike friendly.
06:19:22 And you will find children out side laughing and playing,
06:19:26 and other children with bikes and skate Box visiting
06:19:30 neighbors, jogging, children's and adults riding bicycles,
06:19:34 et cetera.
06:19:34 I want to show you some pictures of the neighborhood just to
06:19:36 give you a is sense. This is looking east on Morrison.
06:19:41 These are the houses across the street from the VFW.
06:19:47 Here is another view across the street.
06:19:51 Another across Morrison.
06:19:54 Another view across Morrison.
06:19:57 This is on the south side of Morrison directly across from
06:20:01 the VFW.
06:20:03 Again.
06:20:07 This is looking south on Albany.
06:20:09 This is Morrison here.
06:20:11 This is VFW.
06:20:13 This is residential.
06:20:14 This is looking north on Albany.
06:20:19 VFW.
06:20:20 This is looking at Chican.
06:20:24 These are houses directly behind the VFW.
06:20:30 The VFW is surrounded by single-family homes well within the
06:20:34 250 feet separation wet zoning called for by the statute.
06:20:38 Many children use Morrison to travel by bicycle.
06:20:40 But the surrounding neighborhood to go through Kate Jackson
06:20:47 to the subject property.
06:20:50 We do not want wet zoning in our neighborhood.
06:20:52 We invested in our neighborhood, have a very welcoming
06:20:56 environment.
06:20:57 Because this is a VFW it has been in the neighborhood for 69
06:21:00 years, we have reluctantly -- supported the PD that allows
06:21:06 the VFW continuous operation for 69 years within the
06:21:11 existing facility and in a manner that does not intrude upon
06:21:13 or impact the surrounding neighborhood.
06:21:15 That means no possession outside, no amplified sound and
06:21:20 closing at 11 p.m.
06:21:21 We have identified restrictions that articulate the
06:21:24 operations and only if noise restrictions are in place.
06:21:31 (Bell sounds)
06:21:32 And our attorney will go over --
06:21:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I appreciate it.
06:21:37 Next, please.
06:21:38 Anyone that wants to speak.
06:21:39 Either side, doesn't matter.
06:21:41 You can wrestle for it later on but you can come up now.
06:21:45 >> Steve hill.
06:21:46 I live at 2009 west Morrison Avenue which is one of the
06:21:52 homes pictured in the photos and I have a question.
06:21:54 I want a clarification if the proposed hours of service and
06:21:57 the proposed exterior amplification of sound, decibels of
06:22:02 sound, if they are consistent with what has been there
06:22:04 historically or if they are in some way an expansion of what
06:22:08 has been there historically?
06:22:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I can't speak for the historical part of it,
06:22:12 obviously.
06:22:12 But as Mr. Grandoff said and our staff reiterated, it would
06:22:17 have to be by code based on whatever noise level it is.
06:22:20 So most noise level is based on decibel level, and it would
06:22:25 depend on how they are operating at that time.
06:22:27 >> I understand the code piece.
06:22:30 I am just wondering if there's been a practice of having it
06:22:34 in the past exterior amplified sound, or if that's something
06:22:38 that's new that's being proposed.
06:22:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We discussed it primarily when we were
06:22:42 looking mostly at commercial activities as opposed to
06:22:45 nonprofit activity.
06:22:47 It's a little bit unique for us.
06:22:48 It typically is on commercial activities that are either
06:22:52 amplified sound is mentioned in part of your site plan when
06:22:55 they come forward and same whether or not they are going to
06:22:57 have amplified sound, what that means, the hours of
06:22:59 operation, and that's typically controlled by whatever the
06:23:02 site plan says.
06:23:03 In this case, they are trying to do something similar to
06:23:06 that which some -- with some of these changes, but, you
06:23:10 know, that is something that we'll have to decide here.
06:23:12 So if we can't say what's going to happen in the future
06:23:14 because we haven't made a decision yet on this particular
06:23:17 plan.
06:23:19 I don't know if that answers your question.
06:23:21 But I'm in the same boat as you because I am trying to
06:23:23 figure out what's next, too.
06:23:25 >> Certainly.
06:23:26 I appreciate your time and just want to say thanks to the
06:23:28 veterans for their service.
06:23:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
06:23:31 Appreciate it.
06:23:31 Hop is next?
06:23:33 Yes, sir.
06:23:33 >> Danny Denton, 505 hillside court in Brandon.
06:23:41 I'm the quartermaster of the post of 4321.
06:23:46 Ever since I got back from Iraq, I have been an officer --
06:23:52 officer of this post.
06:23:54 During from 04 till now, we have only had outside
06:24:00 amplification one time, and that was in the afternoon.
06:24:07 Our hours of operation usually are not till 11:00 during the
06:24:12 workweek because people at our post do work for a living.
06:24:16 We usually shut down anywhere between nine and ten.
06:24:20 On the weekends, as a rule, we normally are done by 1:00.
06:24:28 But the city allows you to be open till 3.
06:24:32 But I don't really see that happening to us.
06:24:36 But I'm not saying it won't.
06:24:40 We have had a lot of disturbing things go on this year, and
06:24:45 I don't understand the difference in traffic.
06:24:50 The traffic is still going to be the same as it always has
06:24:52 been for the last 50 some-odd years.
06:24:56 The children play in our yard.
06:24:59 We have children's functions at ours.
06:25:05 Not all of our veterans that come to our post are single.
06:25:08 They come with their children.
06:25:12 So I don't see where this is a problem whatsoever.
06:25:16 Other than that, thanks for your time.
06:25:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
06:25:21 Next.
06:25:21 Yes, sir.
06:25:22 >> Jack Wyatt, south Delaware Avenue in Hyde Park.
06:25:31 I was president of the Hyde Park neighborhood association,
06:25:38 or about to be when the place burned down.
06:25:41 And we are all for the VFW.
06:25:47 We helped them get their plans made.
06:25:49 We bought their windows for them.
06:25:53 Kushner was the architect, did all the construction
06:25:55 drawings.
06:25:56 We got all their permits for them to get them back together
06:26:00 again.
06:26:01 But you have to understand there would be no other zoning or
06:26:03 changes to this.
06:26:04 And we were going along fine.
06:26:06 We knew what they were doing.
06:26:07 But it amazes me that in six months this place hasn't
06:26:13 functioned.
06:26:14 But this is the VFW.
06:26:17 If you read the VFW code, it's not about drink.
06:26:20 We are wasting all this time for drink.
06:26:22 Nobody has been there for six months.
06:26:24 It's a little bit disturbing.
06:26:26 And our position from the standpoint of neighborhood for
06:26:30 them to drink because there could be something that happens
06:26:36 in the future to depreciate.
06:26:40 We worked hard on this neighborhood.
06:26:41 You all know that.
06:26:43 You all know individually to know that. If we loss any
06:26:47 appreciation of our value, then we have no future, because
06:26:54 we worked with them.
06:26:56 We had things with them and everything else.
06:26:59 And I understand the problem that they have an opportunity
06:27:03 to sell this property, to anyone they want to do and do
06:27:09 anything they want to do.
06:27:10 I am not sure what the goal is here, but it seems to me we
06:27:13 always lose when we do these PDs, because you all won't be
06:27:17 here again.
06:27:20 Thank you all very much.
06:27:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
06:27:22 Next, please.
06:27:23 Yes, ma'am.
06:27:23 >> May I speak again, please?
06:27:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We are on the second item so you can speak
06:27:32 on this.
06:27:33 >> My name is Pat Stapleton, VFW post adjuvant 4321.
06:27:41 First I want to state that the post is my heart.
06:27:43 And as a veteran, I wish to keep that honor for the veterans
06:27:50 that have come to our post.
06:27:53 We have 243 active members at our post.
06:27:58 Not all of them come at the same time.
06:28:00 But we like to be open when they do come.
06:28:04 As for being family friendly, we have given out the State of
06:28:10 Florida -- well, the State of Florida had a scholarship
06:28:13 winner of $30,000, and that individual was selected
06:28:18 nationwide by the VFW.
06:28:22 Now, we can't collect those applications for the voice of
06:28:27 democracy.
06:28:28 This particular one was a patriot's heart and it was very
06:28:33 endearing speech from a high school student: He just won a
06:28:39 $30,000 for a scholarship.
06:28:41 We had a patriot's pin application that goes out to sixth
06:28:47 grade through 9th grade, I believe.
06:28:52 And they have to write down what they believe democracy is.
06:28:57 And we are reaching out to the high schools.
06:28:59 We are reaching out to all of the kids that want a
06:29:06 scholarship for continuing their education.
06:29:11 We also have a patriot's art project.
06:29:15 And some of the art projects were just unbelievable.
06:29:19 I went to the national convention in Charlotte, North
06:29:22 Carolina, in July, and the winners were -- they had put a
06:29:28 lot of soul into their paintings.
06:29:32 And they are very artistic children.
06:29:37 These are kids that go to our schools.
06:29:40 And I just want to say that we are very much a backbone that
06:29:45 wants to present to our kids an education on military honor
06:29:50 and pride in our post.
06:29:53 Thank you very much.
06:29:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
06:29:55 Next, please.
06:29:56 >> My name is Joseph Dempsey, 4716 Ohio Avenue, Tampa.
06:30:06 Jack Wyatt was right that they did help us tremendously
06:30:09 after the fire.
06:30:12 I became a commander right after the fire.
06:30:14 But also understand the Hyde Park association also enjoy
06:30:20 that club, too, because they have meetings there, and they
06:30:23 have fund-raisers there.
06:30:25 So I just want to let you know that they actively use our
06:30:30 post, too.
06:30:30 And I hope you all will see that we are a good place.
06:30:36 And again we are going to be there a while.
06:30:38 And I hop you approve it.
06:30:40 Thank you.
06:30:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
06:30:42 Anyone else in the public like to speak at this time?
06:30:44 Yes, ma'am?
06:30:45 >> A chance to speak?
06:30:47 >> Yes, ma'am.
06:30:47 >> Well, I was across the street for the past ten years,
06:30:51 okay?
06:30:51 So they have outdoor music and they put in that concrete
06:30:56 thing --
06:30:57 >> Let me interrupt you of just a second.
06:30:58 I know who you are but say your name again.
06:31:02 >> Patricia Bastille, not to be confused with the attorney.
06:31:11 Had me confused, too.
06:31:13 But I lived across the street for ten years and there have
06:31:15 been several incidents that the gentleman over there put,
06:31:19 you know, put the outdoor music sound and most of the time,
06:31:24 the guys that are playing it, you know, at one time, I found
06:31:29 myself, even though the police couldn't respond, because the
06:31:36 decibel levels was tied up somewhere else, they couldn't
06:31:40 come, and I went over, so I turned on my Cadillac with full
06:31:48 music and opened all the windows and I finally drowned them
06:31:51 out with some operatic music and they got the hint that they
06:31:54 were being too loud because my husband couldn't sleep in our
06:31:58 house.
06:31:58 And it was well after 10:00.
06:32:00 You know, it wasn't every night.
06:32:04 It wasn't all the time.
06:32:05 Because they are old guys and they have to pay musicians to
06:32:09 come in and do it.
06:32:10 But there should be some limitations on noise.
06:32:13 They never stay open very late.
06:32:16 They go to sleep.
06:32:17 They go home.
06:32:19 I have no problem with their hours.
06:32:23 But keep it within -- they can't sell the beer out in front
06:32:27 of the house in the middle of the day.
06:32:29 They can't do that.
06:32:31 And because they have the buckets with the ice and so forth.
06:32:36 You know, keep it within -- and family friendly, I think the
06:32:43 gentleman said what they do there is smoke and drink.
06:32:45 And that's what they do.
06:32:47 And luckily they put in -- my husband stopped going because
06:32:54 they smoke too much.
06:32:55 So it's the wet zoning that's a problem.
06:32:57 Because this is a family friendly neighborhood.
06:33:03 And it's an RS-60, or in my case an RS-50.
06:33:08 But it's -- that's a commercial -- does a club have limits
06:33:15 on who they can sell the liquor to?
06:33:18 Is it a private club where you have to belong to it to buy?
06:33:22 Because it never has been.
06:33:23 Anybody could get in there and drink.
06:33:25 (Bell sounds)
06:33:27 So it's inappropriate.
06:33:29 Really is inappropriate.
06:33:30 And they have been very dishonor because they never had a
06:33:34 license before.
06:33:38 How do you do that?
06:33:40 They don't have a license now.
06:33:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:33:43 Are you done, ma'am?
06:33:43 Okay.
06:33:44 Thank you, ma'am.
06:33:45 All right.
06:33:45 Next up, sir?
06:33:46 >> Hello again.
06:33:51 Brian Sailer, Tampa, Florida.
06:33:54 A couple of things.
06:33:55 We do not have amplified music on the outside, never have.
06:33:59 We have never sold alcohol on the outside.
06:34:02 Never have.
06:34:06 Here is my membership card that everybody has to have when
06:34:10 they come in, whether it's an annual or lifetime member like
06:34:14 myself.
06:34:16 This is the second card that we have, present it at the
06:34:20 front door when you come in.
06:34:22 If a member passes with a guest, you sign a guest badge.
06:34:26 A guest is not allowed to just come in and drink at the
06:34:29 club.
06:34:30 So to answer that question, no, it's not open to the public.
06:34:33 Again, we have never served alcohol outside.
06:34:36 We never played amplified music on the outside.
06:34:41 The previous Hyde Park association managers talked about
06:34:45 having a bar, and what does that have to do with having a
06:34:49 VFW?
06:34:50 There's different operating models on how VFW posts run.
06:34:54 Some of them are bingo centric.
06:34:57 They have bingo.
06:34:57 They fund raise through bingo to pay the bills to keep the
06:35:01 lights on and to get give back to veteran families.
06:35:05 Most VFWs have a campaign.
06:35:08 That's what we have.
06:35:08 That's what requires the wet zoning for the liquor license.
06:35:11 The fund go to keep the lights on.
06:35:13 And it goes to give back to veterans families, like last
06:35:17 Christmas, our auxiliary gave bicycles and presents away to
06:35:22 a family, five or six, that had no money for Christmas.
06:35:28 That's where these funds go to, to take care of veterans
06:35:30 families.
06:35:31 Thank you for your time.
06:35:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
06:35:33 Next, please.
06:35:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I have one.
06:35:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Hold on.
06:35:37 >> You never had amplified music outside.
06:35:39 Where are you asking for amplified music outside?
06:35:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is that something that --
06:35:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
06:35:48 >> I would be glad to answer that.
06:35:51 So to avoid any confusion we just want to be subject to city
06:35:54 code just like every property.
06:35:57 Then we don't get into an enforcement issue.
06:36:00 It's a simple condition.
06:36:01 If you would like to include a condition no amplified music
06:36:04 outside, we can do it --
06:36:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I would love to do that.
06:36:12 I don't have to tell you that.
06:36:14 That is an issue that I have always -- acoustic music is
06:36:19 different.
06:36:20 Anyway.
06:36:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We may want to wait till the public speaks
06:36:24 before we start making any kind of suggestions if that's
06:36:27 okay.
06:36:27 >>HARRY COHEN: I want to just go ahead now since it came up
06:36:33 and say that I agree with Councilwoman Capin.
06:36:36 I think that would be a very reasonable condition to impose
06:36:39 on a residential neighborhood.
06:36:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right.
06:36:43 Mr. Grandoff.
06:36:43 We'll go on with public comment and talk a little more about
06:36:46 that afterwards.
06:36:47 Sir, you have not been sworn in.
06:36:48 Is that what you are trying to say?
06:36:50 I wasn't sure.
06:36:51 Before you start, is there anyone else that would like to
06:36:54 speak at this time on this item that has not been sworn in,
06:36:58 please stand and be sworn in.
06:37:05 You have already been sworn in, I believe.
06:37:19 (Oath administered by Clerk)
06:37:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:37:26 >> My name is Carls.
06:37:28 My family has been integrated into this country since 1632.
06:37:34 Our family came here through the township.
06:37:38 My family has been deeply involved with this post.
06:37:43 My father is a member of it.
06:37:46 I also lived in Hyde Park, member lived there for 50 years
06:37:51 until 1998.
06:37:53 There's never been an issue or problem, okay with, that
06:37:55 post, ever.
06:37:56 Not a single police call for drunkenness.
06:38:00 None of that.
06:38:02 Here we are going through all these issues.
06:38:06 My grandfathers and his brother left for the Spanish
06:38:11 American war out of here in Tampa.
06:38:14 We have been part of this city, okay.
06:38:16 So as has my father.
06:38:18 His soul lives in that post and in that area.
06:38:21 And there's people coming over here trying to figure out how
06:38:23 to close it down.
06:38:25 How to impose new rules, which I grew up in that
06:38:29 neighborhood.
06:38:29 I ran around here.
06:38:32 And I can't see where people come in there, and all of a
06:38:35 sudden try to change the temperament of Tampa.
06:38:41 You know, that post has been a part of Tampa.
06:38:44 It's historically part of Tampa.
06:38:50 VFW started in 1896.
06:38:53 That's when it first got organized.
06:38:55 It's been a part.
06:38:56 You know, this organization of this country.
06:38:59 A lot of you guys within City Council go to VFW functions.
06:39:06 You seek our votes.
06:39:08 Yet we are running into this issue.
06:39:15 If you all are familiar with Bryan Allen, also involved in
06:39:19 organizing and working with Gasparilla.
06:39:21 All the events which are part of this city.
06:39:27 It's really atrocious we have people here trying to
06:39:29 basically change something that's 60, 70 years, and I could
06:39:34 pull up articles from newspapers that no longer exist about
06:39:37 that post never having any issues.
06:39:39 You could do it yourself.
06:39:42 So, you know, we hear talk and talk, and my family, 50 years
06:39:49 in Hyde Park, then had a footprint here since 1896.
06:39:56 On top of that, my father's -- my grandfather's brother was
06:40:06 first -- to the United States.
06:40:08 He developed the park system for the state of Alabama.
06:40:11 (Bell sounds)
06:40:12 So I said my piece.
06:40:14 Okay.
06:40:14 I hope you do the right thing and make sure that they could
06:40:17 take back and turn on the lights and serve the community
06:40:20 there.
06:40:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:40:21 Next, please.
06:40:23 Yes, ma'am.
06:40:24 >> Hi again.
06:40:28 Patricia Summerville, 2107 west Segal Avenue.
06:40:34 I support the veterans.
06:40:35 I support the VFW.
06:40:37 My brother, my father, my grandfather, all served in the
06:40:41 military branches.
06:40:45 But we neighbors are concerned about the permanency of these
06:40:49 changes, and what would happen if and when the VFW sells the
06:40:55 property.
06:40:55 We know that our neighbors will have to live with and be
06:40:59 impacted by the decision tonight forever.
06:41:04 We do not want any change that a future buyer can use to
06:41:08 transform the property to anything other than what we have
06:41:12 lived with for the past 70 years.
06:41:15 Not I but others.
06:41:18 We have been concerned that anything but restrictions that
06:41:22 mirror and replicate how the VFW has operated for 69 years
06:41:26 would establish a dangerous precedent that we would not want
06:41:30 in our historic residential community.
06:41:35 We would note that whatever is adopted by the City Council,
06:41:38 the neighborhood will be active in ensuring that the owner
06:41:42 of the property, whoever that is, complies with it.
06:41:47 The VFW has in the past not complied with the restrictions
06:41:51 of the historic neighborhood.
06:41:53 For example, erecting the plaza in front of the building
06:41:58 over a weekend.
06:41:59 We will be monitoring activity on the property against the
06:42:03 PD restrictions if adopted and connecting the code
06:42:06 enforcement on any activities that is inconsistent with
06:42:10 these restrictions.
06:42:13 I support the VFW 4321 post to operate legally as it has
06:42:20 done for the past 69 years.
06:42:23 Thank you.
06:42:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:42:25 Next, please.
06:42:26 >> I reside at 2708 north Elmore Avenue.
06:42:41 One of the gentlemen spoke about the history of Tampa.
06:42:45 When I came to Hyde Park in 1980, Hyde Park was a red lined
06:42:52 district.
06:42:52 That meant the banks wouldn't grant mortgages to anyone
06:42:58 wanting to improve the property.
06:43:02 The struggle to make Hyde Park what it is today the
06:43:06 beautiful and historic, accurately historic and coveted
06:43:12 neighborhood has been a change from that past history, but
06:43:16 people have worked very, very hard and have invested a great
06:43:20 deal of money to make what we have there today viable.
06:43:28 During the time that I was president of the historic Hyde
06:43:31 Park neighborhood association, there was an attempt to
06:43:35 establish a congregate living facility across the street
06:43:40 from the VFW.
06:43:43 We worked against that, and with the help of City Council
06:43:47 defeated that effort.
06:43:51 This was followed by a developer to what I would say would
06:43:56 be overbuilding on the site.
06:44:01 We fought that, and again with the help of City Council, we
06:44:05 defeated that proposal.
06:44:12 The developer then called me the next day and said, how many
06:44:15 homes do you think should be on that property?
06:44:19 I said two.
06:44:19 And the developer asked me if I would design those homes.
06:44:23 I did.
06:44:25 The result was two beautiful homes.
06:44:27 One is actually used as an icon for the City of Tampa
06:44:32 Architectural Review Commission.
06:44:39 Even though that property that I am speaking of was on the
06:44:42 edge of Hyde Park, any sort of commercial, openly commercial
06:44:48 establishment within the residential and historic district
06:44:53 will only erode the district and will set a precedent as
06:44:58 many people said here tonight, will set a precedent for more
06:45:03 eating away at the fabric.
06:45:08 So I ask you all please not to allow the commercial sale of
06:45:12 liquor on this site.
06:45:14 Thank you.
06:45:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:45:15 Next.
06:45:16 >> Seven names.
06:45:28 Would you please knowledge that you are here?
06:45:30 Lisa Jacobson.
06:45:32 Thank you.
06:45:36 Skee is the last name, I believe. Thank you.
06:45:38 Donnally Bailey.
06:45:41 Thank you.
06:45:42 Del Acosta.
06:45:43 Thank you.
06:45:44 Irene Acosta.
06:45:46 Thank you.
06:45:47 Nancy Sagluay. Did I pronounce that correctly? Thank you.
06:45:53 Evelyn Yates.
06:45:55 Seven additional minutes for a total of ten.
06:45:57 >> I promise to be quicker.
06:46:00 Elise Batsel, 100 South Ashley Drive, not to be confused
06:46:02 with my doppelganger, representing the Hyde Park historic
06:46:05 neighborhood association.
06:46:07 When I came up here the land use attorney, everybody comes
06:46:10 up, we are here to tell a story.
06:46:12 And when we came before you for the commercial zoning, the
06:46:16 story that the VFW told and that we agreed with was that
06:46:20 they wanted to come and continue to do what they have been
06:46:22 doing for 69, 70 years.
06:46:25 We have no problem with that at all.
06:46:27 The question becomes -- and that's why we suggested in that
06:46:30 hearing rather than having a CN designation we should
06:46:35 convert to a PD, with limited conditions to what they have
06:46:38 been doing.
06:46:39 I think that we are very close in all agreeing what that is.
06:46:42 And luckily, the VFW has clarified a lot of their
06:46:46 operational issues.
06:46:47 So I think a lot of this is probably going to be very
06:46:49 simple.
06:46:50 The conditions that we are requesting, first let's talk
06:46:53 about the footprint.
06:46:58 This is what the yellow area is what actually submitted to
06:47:02 you today, right now.
06:47:03 It hasn't been revised yet.
06:47:05 The green area is the one-story building.
06:47:07 So the only thing up in the air for the council is the wet
06:47:11 zoning of the outdoor patio.
06:47:13 I did understand that they were going to be asking for areas
06:47:15 behind here, but I think they are no longer asking for that.
06:47:18 So we would ask that you limit the wet zone footprint to the
06:47:22 building as it has been for many years, and keep it that
06:47:25 way.
06:47:30 The second issue is hours of operation.
06:47:33 These are just staff proposed conditions.
06:47:36 Obviously I know we have already talked about number four.
06:47:39 Number three, we would appreciate having the hours of
06:47:42 operation limited to 11 to 11.
06:47:45 It sound like that's when the VFW traditionally operates
06:47:49 anyway.
06:47:50 And being with a neighborhood with families and children, on
06:47:54 the other side of the Crosstown, we would ask that you limit
06:47:56 those hours.
06:47:57 I would worry with the proposal Monday through Thursday
06:48:01 until 11, but Friday, Saturday and Sunday night when people
06:48:04 have work and school the next day.
06:48:05 I believe the code would be allow alcoholic beverage sales
06:48:08 till 3 a.m.
06:48:09 And we do think that would be a reasonable amount of time in
06:48:14 a residential neighborhood.
06:48:16 As far as the amplified sound, I am going to put outside
06:48:20 here, that was the intention of this.
06:48:22 There's no amplified sound outside.
06:48:24 Again I do think it sound like they don't really do a lot of
06:48:27 amplified sound according to the VFW so we would ask that
06:48:31 you add that condition as well.
06:48:33 I am happy to answer any questions that you have and I ask.
06:48:36 That you support the VFW by approving the alcoholic beverage
06:48:38 with the conditions that were proposed today.
06:48:42 Thank you.
06:48:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Next, please.
06:48:46 Anyone else?
06:48:47 Anyone else in the public that hasn't spoken on this item,
06:48:49 if you want to come forward now, you can.
06:48:52 Okay.
06:48:54 What's the pleasure of council?
06:48:59 Anyone want to ask a question?
06:49:03 Does anyone have any questions of questions plaintiff
06:49:06 Grandoff?
06:49:07 Anyone before Mr. Grandoff does -- Mrs. Capin?
06:49:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
06:49:13 [Off microphone.] repeating what you said, if you will.
06:49:16 >> Are you addressing that question of me, Mrs. Capin?
06:49:25 No amplified sound.
06:49:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
06:49:30 Let's wait till everybody votes.
06:49:32 So we talked about amplified sound.
06:49:34 And you said that you all would be willing -- to not have it
06:49:39 outside.
06:49:39 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: That's correct.
06:49:41 No amplified sound outside.
06:49:43 >> So that would be a condition that you would add to that.
06:49:46 You are aware that these hours, Friday through Sunday are
06:49:52 city code, that means Sunday would end at 12 p.m. because
06:49:56 then that becomes -- I mean 12 mid night because then that
06:50:00 becomes a Monday.
06:50:01 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: That's right.
06:50:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The other thing.
06:50:14 As far as the alcohol and sale of alcohol, I remember
06:50:16 someone coming up here and said we want to sell spirits, not
06:50:23 just beer and wine, because cocktails are the American way.
06:50:29 That was the statement.
06:50:30 And they got it.
06:50:32 And I want to know anyone in here that does not serve or
06:50:36 have a cocktail at their home, there are people that don't,
06:50:38 but there are people that do, and there is nothing -- when
06:50:41 you talk about alcohol, and you demonize people who have a
06:50:53 legal beverage, and in order to be able to enjoy a cocktail
06:50:57 or wine, a beer, that is just the most normal thing that we
06:51:02 have.
06:51:06 So with that, the amplified sound is the one that I think
06:51:09 would be the most disturbing.
06:51:12 As far as where it's sold, it's inside the building.
06:51:17 But you all would like to have -- to be able to drink it on
06:51:20 the patio or whatever that area is there that you call?
06:51:25 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Correct.
06:51:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: To consume it there.
06:51:28 >> Correct.
06:51:29 But no sales outside.
06:51:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: All right.
06:51:32 Also, I am just going to say this real quick.
06:51:35 When someone came up and talked about Hyde Park and how they
06:51:38 were there since 1980, Hyde Park was ready to be demolished
06:51:43 by urban renewal.
06:51:45 And what saved Hyde Park was model city.
06:51:50 What also shaved Hyde Park was everyone had huge investment
06:51:53 but it was a public-private partnership.
06:51:55 And the public part, the City of Tampa, and its policing.
06:52:00 So it wasn't done by -- wasn't done by yourself.
06:52:04 The city did its part.
06:52:06 And I know for a fact, my city aide, her husband was a
06:52:14 police officer in Hyde Park at that time.
06:52:19 So they did, and it helped to bring back Hyde Park, because
06:52:25 if it had been the way it was back in the 70s, I don't
06:52:29 care what kind of investment you had in there, they weren't
06:52:31 going to stay.
06:52:32 So yes, it was a public-private.
06:52:34 So everyone did their part.
06:52:37 And that's what I have to say about Hyde Park, which I love
06:52:41 dearly.
06:52:42 But I would like the amplified sound is a major part of
06:52:46 this.
06:52:47 So thank you.
06:52:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before we go forward I think our legal
06:52:53 department wanted to mention something.
06:52:55 >> With regard to a condition that would allow sales of
06:53:03 alcoholic beverages, and then only consumption outside, we
06:53:08 are preempted by the state from interfering with the
06:53:12 operation or regulating the operation of alcoholic
06:53:14 beverages, then we begin to get into telling them whereby
06:53:19 they can sell and where they can consume versus what is
06:53:21 allowed for wet zoning, is something that would start to get
06:53:25 into the operations of the alcoholic beverage permit,
06:53:29 license itself, so we would advise council that your
06:53:35 requirement should just be the area that is wet zoned for
06:53:39 sales and consumption.
06:53:40 So either the patio is going to be included or the patio is
06:53:43 not going to be included, but not to break it out that way.
06:53:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:53:48 Mr. Cohen.
06:53:48 >>HARRY COHEN: So a segue from that is if there is going to
06:53:55 be any activity on the patio, it might be appropriate to
06:54:00 restrict the hours.
06:54:02 So what would be a compromise that everyone could live with
06:54:07 in terms of the hours of operation, the exchange for being
06:54:11 able to utilize the patio?
06:54:13 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Then the patio would be included in the
06:54:17 wet zoning.
06:54:19 >>HARRY COHEN: Hypothetically --
06:54:22 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: The legal description.
06:54:24 And then we propose the hours of operation would be the
06:54:27 11 p.m. closure on weekdays, and then the 1 p.m. closure on
06:54:32 weekends.
06:54:33 >>HARRY COHEN: 1 a.m.
06:54:35 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Yes, sorry.
06:54:38 A M.
06:54:38 Sunday would be midnight.
06:54:40 >>HARRY COHEN: Sunday would be midnight.
06:54:42 So it would be 11 during the week, 1:00 on Friday and
06:54:45 Saturday, and midnight on Sunday.
06:54:47 >> Correct.
06:54:50 >>HARRY COHEN: No amplified music but they would be allowed
06:54:53 to use the patio.
06:54:53 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Correct.
06:54:55 And then, excuse me, make sure we aren't missing anything.
06:55:01 Yes.
06:55:04 That's correct.
06:55:05 I also want to add kind of a rebuttal comment.
06:55:12 Any other years besides -- use besides RS-60 housing or a
06:55:18 club as defined has to come to the City Council for a new
06:55:21 rezoning.
06:55:23 I want to make sure that's clear.
06:55:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione.
06:55:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
06:55:29 Mr. Grandoff, you mentioned to dovetail onto Mr. Cohen's
06:55:35 comments about the hours.
06:55:36 You mentioned Gasparilla, Super Bowl, New Year's Eve.
06:55:42 What, three of them are?
06:55:43 >> New Year's Eve, and excuse me one second.
06:55:48 Three special events per calendar year.
06:55:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
06:55:51 That's what I had written out.
06:55:53 And those would all be -- it wouldn't be the 1 a.m.
06:56:00 So even if they sell during the week --
06:56:05 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: That's an exception.
06:56:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
06:56:08 So I'm good with that.
06:56:09 I'm actually going to agree with Mrs. Capin.
06:56:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Oh, my goodness.
06:56:15 (Laughter).
06:56:18 >> My heart is still.
06:56:20 >>HARRY COHEN: There's always time for something.
06:56:24 (Laughter).
06:56:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Um, that the sound should be restricted
06:56:30 so that there would be no amplified sound out on that patio,
06:56:34 or outside.
06:56:35 So amplified sound inside?
06:56:38 But the acoustics outside as is Mrs. Capin's typical
06:56:44 request.
06:56:45 You know, looking at the location, it does back up to the
06:56:53 south and faces to the east, south Albany residential.
06:57:00 Mark is a pretty busy street, about a block to, give or
06:57:04 take, to Howard.
06:57:07 So I don't see this as -- I mean, surrounded and enveloped
06:57:14 by a residential neighborhood.
06:57:16 And as far as historic, if it's been there 76 years, I think
06:57:22 that's bordering on the historic.
06:57:25 50 years kind of contemplates what we look at.
06:57:28 And it's not too far from 100.
06:57:30 So I think it is because of the longevity and the number of
06:57:35 years it's been there, part of the fabric and part of the
06:57:37 history of this area, of this neighborhood.
06:57:43 So with those conditions that we talked about, I'm good.
06:57:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
06:57:52 Any other questions?
06:57:53 Mr. Miranda?
06:57:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to understand what I think
06:57:57 I'm hearing.
06:57:58 No amplified music at all outside.
06:58:01 Only inside.
06:58:02 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Correct.
06:58:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: At all times.
06:58:06 The wet zoning will be the building and the patio.
06:58:08 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Correct.
06:58:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The hours of operation Monday through
06:58:12 Thursday are 11 till 11.
06:58:15 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Correct.
06:58:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Friday and Saturdays 11 to midnight.
06:58:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No.
06:58:22 >> Till 1:00.
06:58:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And Sundays 11 to 12.
06:58:26 Why not make it consistent so the people don't get confused
06:58:29 and make it all 11 to 11, or just Friday and Saturday 11 to
06:58:34 12?
06:58:35 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: Let me check.
06:58:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: 11 to 11.
06:58:45 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: They need 1:00.
06:58:47 We prefer this.
06:58:49 1:00 on Friday and Saturday.
06:58:50 Closing at midnight on Sunday.
06:58:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
06:58:54 Thank you.
06:58:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: "other questions or comments at this time?
06:58:59 Mr. Grandoff, anything else in terms of your rebuttal?
06:59:02 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I have made my notes.
06:59:06 I respectfully request your approval this evening.
06:59:09 And I would be more than glad to have of a restatement of
06:59:12 those conditions so we make sure they are absolutely clear.
06:59:15 We would add those to the site plan verbatim.
06:59:18 And I want to close by saying I moved to Hyde Park in 1966
06:59:24 when it was really rough going, and lived at 805 south
06:59:27 Edison.
06:59:28 My parents raised me there.
06:59:29 Tay a lot of pride in Hyde Park.
06:59:31 I remember the VFW post from those years and I can assure
06:59:35 you this is something I would certainly want to have and so
06:59:38 would my family.
06:59:39 Thank you for your time.
06:59:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
06:59:42 Anything else from council?
06:59:43 Any other questions or comments?
06:59:45 Motion to close from Mrs. Montelione.
06:59:47 I have a second from Mr. Cohen.
06:59:48 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
06:59:51 Any opposed?
06:59:53 Mr. Maniscalco, will you kindly take item number 2?
06:59:57 >> I have an ordinance being presented for first reading
07:00:02 consideration, an ordinance approving a special use permit
07:00:05 S-2 for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue, consumption
07:00:08 on premises only, and making lawful the sale of beverages
07:00:12 regardless of alcoholic content, beer, wine and liquor, on
07:00:16 that certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 2010 west
07:00:20 Morrison Avenue, Tampa, Florida as more particularly
07:00:22 described in section 2, that all ordinances or parts of
07:00:25 ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an effective
07:00:27 date, as well as the conditions that we have attached.
07:00:34 With the hours of operation which will be Monday through
07:00:36 Thursday from 11 a.m. to 11 p.m., Friday and Saturday until
07:00:41 1 a.m., and Sunday will be 11 to midnight.
07:00:45 With the exception of new years eve, Gasparilla, and Super
07:00:48 Bowl, and three other events.
07:00:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay, hang on a second before we go forward.
07:00:54 I don't know why we have our legal department.
07:00:56 You can't speak because we haven't closed the hearing.
07:01:00 And I will ask --
07:01:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: November open.
07:01:05 >> Motion by Mr. Miranda.
07:01:07 Second by Mr. Cohen.
07:01:08 All in favor?
07:01:09 Any opposed?
07:01:10 Ma'am.
07:01:10 >> Kristin Mora, legal department.
07:01:15 I want to make sure that it's only allowing 11-C license.
07:01:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right.
07:01:23 Now we are going back to someone that will make a motion to
07:01:26 close.
07:01:27 Motion to close from Mr. Miranda.
07:01:29 I have a second from Mr. Cohen.
07:01:30 All in favor of that motion?
07:01:33 Any opposed?
07:01:34 Mr. Maniscalco, I don't know if we need to continue to start
07:01:38 from the beginning.
07:01:39 But if you could just make sure you put that condition as
07:01:42 stated.
07:01:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: That we have no outside sound, for the
07:01:51 inside, then we have the 11-C license.
07:01:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
07:01:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A question of the footprint.
07:02:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Exactly, the patio wet zoned.
07:02:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: The property itself and the patio wet
07:02:08 zoned.
07:02:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion.
07:02:09 Do I have a second?
07:02:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
07:02:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Maniscalco.
07:02:15 Second from Mrs. Montelione.
07:02:16 All in favor of that motion?
07:02:18 Any opposed?
07:02:18 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried unanimously.
07:02:23 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
07:02:25 9:30 a.m.
07:02:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We just did a first hearing on this.
07:02:30 If you are going to leave, please be quiet.
07:02:33 Redo have more meetings to go.
07:02:35 So thank you for attending.
07:02:36 >>HARRY COHEN: Move to open item 3 through 14.
07:02:41 >> Second.
07:02:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Cohen.
07:02:44 A second from Mrs. Montelione to open the hearings 3 through
07:02:47 14.
07:02:47 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
07:02:50 Any opposed?
07:02:52 All right.
07:02:55 If we could, let me wait till the room clears so we can see
07:03:00 those people that going to stand and be sworn in.
07:03:03 Mr. Crew, if you would be ready to swear in the witnesses.
07:03:06 Anyone that's going to speak on items number 3 through 14.
07:03:14 Let's wait a moment then.
07:04:13 Mrs. Feeley, you said there are people outside waiting to
07:04:18 come in?
07:04:20 Okay.
07:04:25 We may want to ask for a recess in we are going to have --
07:04:29 we have to wand them in, though.
07:04:35 Why don't we take a recess if we have that many people that
07:04:38 want to come in for the meeting.
07:04:40 Let's take a five-minute break.
07:04:41 Come back at 7:10.
07:04:43 We are in recess.
07:04:44 [Recess]
07:11:25 [Sounding gavel]
07:11:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Tampa City Council is called back into
07:11:55 order.
07:11:56 Roll call.
07:11:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
07:12:02 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
07:12:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Here.
07:12:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
07:12:07 Let's try this again.
07:12:09 We have opened up our 6:00 p.m. public hearing.
07:12:12 Anyone that would like to speak on items number 3 through
07:12:15 14, please rise and be sworn in.
07:12:18 If you are going to speak, please rise.
07:12:21 Raise your right hand to be sworn in.
07:12:23 (Oath administered by Clerk)
07:12:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:12:30 Mrs. Feeley.
07:12:31 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
07:12:33 Two items on your agenda tonight, number 8 cannot be heard.
07:12:38 That will need to be reset by land development at another
07:12:42 time as no affidavit was filed for that case.
07:12:45 And number 11, REZ 16-74, a letter was submitted by Mrs.
07:12:51 Grimes requesting a continuance to November 10th.
07:12:55 >>HARRY COHEN: Move to have remove number 8 from the
07:12:58 agenda.
07:12:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion from Mr. Cohen.
07:13:01 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
07:13:03 All in favor of that motion?
07:13:05 Any opposed?
07:13:06 >>HARRY COHEN: Move to continue item number 11 until
07:13:09 November 10th.
07:13:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
07:13:13 Second by Mr. Miranda.
07:13:14 All in favor of that motion?
07:13:17 Any opposed?
07:13:19 I think we already have a time set.
07:13:21 >>HARRY COHEN: 6 p.m.
07:13:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: 6 p.m.
07:13:25 Thank you.
07:13:25 >> The cases moving forward this evening would be items 3,
07:13:30 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, and 14.
07:13:39 The first case on your agenda this evening, item number 3 is
07:13:46 SU-2-16-09.
07:13:48 It is a special use.
07:13:49 It's located at 501 east Lake Avenue.
07:13:53 and the request before you tonight is for place of
07:13:55 religious assembly.
07:13:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Excuse me, you said east Lake Avenue?
07:13:59 >> Yes.
07:14:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ:
07:14:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I wanted to make sure.
07:14:07 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Okay.
07:14:09 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff. This is in
07:14:20 the Tampa Heights urban village.
07:14:22 It is 0.184 acres located on east Lake Avenue.
07:14:27 Hart route number 1 serve it is area with transit stops
07:14:30 along Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard just north of the
07:14:33 subject site.
07:14:34 And this is not in an evacuation zone.
07:14:38 Here is an aerial of the site.
07:14:42 This is interstate 275.
07:14:45 East Lake Avenue.
07:14:46 Right here, multifamily residential.
07:14:49 Over here, and then the family housing kind of to the south.
07:15:02 There's the future land use of the subject site.
07:15:05 This pinkish color is community mixed use 35 which is the
07:15:09 future land use of the site.
07:15:10 This is a recreational open space in the green.
07:15:14 Residential 35.
07:15:16 And then this area is residential 10.
07:15:20 The comprehensive plan has identified urban villages, and
07:15:23 the mixed use corridors as having development which
07:15:28 encourages the walking of the transit use.
07:15:30 The central use is utilizing an existing building and will
07:15:33 fit FEMA plans in the neighborhood.
07:15:35 Overall it is comparable and compatible with the surrounding
07:15:38 area and consistent with the Tampa comprehensive plan.
07:15:43 Thank you.
07:15:43 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
07:15:48 As Jennifer mentioned, the request before you tonight is for
07:15:53 a place of religious assembly at 501 east Lake Avenue, and
07:15:58 it is to adaptively reuse a building that was constructed in
07:16:02 1933 that is a 2,812 square foot building for a place of
07:16:07 religious assembly.
07:16:08 There are six waivers being requested with this application
07:16:12 in order to utilize the existing building.
07:16:14 The first is to reduce the required parking, and that is
07:16:20 going to be from 32 spaces to 6 spaces.
07:16:25 The second is to reduce the required yard.
07:16:33 The front yard on place of religious assembly goes pursuant
07:16:36 to the underlining zoning which is RM-24 so that would be a
07:16:39 25-foot front setback.
07:16:42 The existing setback on the property is one foot.
07:16:45 The other yard for place of religious assembly are all
07:16:48 required at 40-foot.
07:16:50 The corner yard on this property is at 4-foot.
07:16:53 On the west.
07:16:54 And on the side is at 8-foot on the east.
07:16:57 Therefore those would need to be added as waivers as well.
07:17:00 Special use requires that for a place of religious assembly,
07:17:03 the lot be 20,000 square feet.
07:17:05 This lot is 8,000.
07:17:08 So that is a waiver.
07:17:11 The access to the local street on Central where this is not
07:17:22 an arterial or collector at this point would also need to be
07:17:26 corrected.
07:17:27 And then to reduce the required vehicle use area buffer.
07:17:30 That is listed on yours and that needs to come off.
07:17:35 And their special use you cannot get waivers to the tree and
07:17:38 landscape code.
07:17:39 So where that 8-foot is going down to 3, I actually need
07:17:44 them to remove one parking space and put the 8-foot buffer
07:17:47 there because you do not have the authority to grant that
07:17:50 waiver.
07:17:51 So that would be a correction.
07:17:56 I will go ahead and show you the site.
07:17:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Reduced from the 32, five spaces?
07:18:04 >> No.
07:18:06 6.
07:18:07 It was 7 and I went back and changed it.
07:18:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I just wanted to make sure.
07:18:11 Go ahead.
07:18:11 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Here is the property shown in yellow.
07:18:16 Central to the west.
07:18:17 Lake to the north.
07:18:22 It's shown here.
07:18:23 There is other nonresidential uses immediately adjacent.
07:18:27 And other places of religious assembly in the immediate
07:18:30 area.
07:18:32 As you can see, it's Robles Park to the west, actual Robles
07:18:38 Park is to the south.
07:18:40 There is a store directly to the south, CG.
07:18:46 Another retail convenience goods to the north in the CG.
07:18:50 And there is several places of religious assembly
07:18:53 immediately south.
07:18:54 I will show you pictures of that.
07:18:57 The interstate is to the east.
07:19:02 There's the subject property.
07:19:09 This is the south side.
07:19:10 That will be the parking area.
07:19:13 This is directly across the street at the northeast corner
07:19:18 of lake and central.
07:19:20 This is immediately the northwest corner.
07:19:24 Immediately west.
07:19:27 To the south.
07:19:31 Along central and further south to one of the places of
07:19:36 religious assembly I mentioned.
07:19:38 There is another.
07:19:38 And this is the part of the subject property.
07:19:41 This is to the east of the subject property.
07:19:45 This is a small RS-50 lot right here that is currently
07:19:49 vacant.
07:19:51 This is proposed with 108 feet which is what drives the
07:20:05 parking, the .3, and it is proposed to keep the existing
07:20:11 building height at 14-foot, and they are proposing to
07:20:14 construct a 12-foot steeple.
07:20:18 Staff did go ahead and I went through -- they really need to
07:20:22 change the waivers.
07:20:23 They also need to correct the setbacks and the setback
07:20:25 table.
07:20:26 And they need to correct building height.
07:20:30 There is a stormwater note that needs to be removed and a
07:20:34 stormwater note that needs to be added.
07:20:36 There is transportation has some site plan modifications
07:20:40 that need to be made in between first and second reading.
07:20:48 And there will need to be some compliance with sidewalk.
07:20:52 Jonathan did show that on the plan which is part of what
07:20:55 triggered that 8-foot buffer discussion.
07:20:59 That being said, staff did find the request consistent with
07:21:02 these modifications made between first and second reading of
07:21:04 the ordinance.
07:21:06 I am available for any questions.
07:21:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions by council?
07:21:12 Thank you, Mrs. Feeley.
07:21:14 Petitioner.
07:21:14 >> I'm petitioner, Thomas Hills, Tampa, Florida.
07:21:30 I'm the petitioner and agent for this particular project.
07:21:35 This project is in an area that could use some improvement,
07:21:40 and this particular group has taken a very, very old
07:21:44 building that was basically donated to a group to have the
07:21:50 church done.
07:21:51 And they have contacted us with extensive remodeling on the
07:21:59 building.
07:21:59 And we understand that the site has its own issues but we
07:22:06 are willing to work with the issues as much as we can, but
07:22:08 some waivers we will have to have.
07:22:12 And now for the parking concerns, we tried to get the lot
07:22:16 east.
07:22:16 It belongs to the city.
07:22:18 And I don't know why we can't, but we want to buy that
07:22:23 particular lot for parking.
07:22:25 But those are basically -- that's probably the biggest
07:22:30 problem.
07:22:30 All of the other things we adjusted very easily in just a
07:22:33 matter of working with them.
07:22:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions by council at this time?
07:22:43 Thank you.
07:22:44 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
07:22:46 this item number 3, file SU-2-16-09?
07:22:51 Please come forward at this time.
07:22:53 I see no one.
07:22:55 I have a motion to close by Mr. Miranda.
07:22:56 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
07:22:58 All in favor of that motion?
07:23:01 Any opposed?
07:23:02 Mr. Cohen, will you kindly take item number 3?
07:23:05 >>HARRY COHEN: I move an ordinance being presented for
07:23:08 first reading K an ordinance approving a special use permit
07:23:12 S-2 approving a place of religious assembly in an RM-24
07:23:16 residential multifamily zoning district in the general
07:23:19 vicinity of 501 east Lake Avenue in the city of Tampa,
07:23:22 Florida and as more particularly described in section 1 here
07:23:26 of providing an effective date.
07:23:27 >> Second.
07:23:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
07:23:30 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
07:23:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Did you say the additions and deletions
07:23:36 that Mrs. Feeley put into the record?
07:23:38 >>HARRY COHEN: With the revisions as enunciated by staff.
07:23:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay?
07:23:42 We have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
07:23:43 A second from Mr. Maniscalco.
07:23:45 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
07:23:47 Any opposed?
07:23:48 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
07:23:51 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
07:23:53 9:30 a.m.
07:23:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
07:23:56 Item number 4.
07:23:57 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
07:24:01 Item number 4 on your agenda tonight is REZ 16-67.
07:24:05 Located at 3818 west Iowa Avenue.
07:24:09 And the request before you tonight is the rezoning from
07:24:12 RS-60 to RS-50 residential single-family.
07:24:16 This is a Euclidean rezoning request.
07:24:19 Therefore, no waivers may be requested or considered by
07:24:21 council, and the application will need to meet all code
07:24:24 requirements.
07:24:32 >> Jennifer Malone again with your Planning Commission
07:24:36 staff.
07:24:36 We are in the South Tampa planning district.
07:24:39 This is a residential 10 future land use category.
07:24:42 There are several transit stops near the site along South
07:24:44 Dale Mabry Highway, which are served by route 36 and this is
07:24:50 in evacuation zone c.
07:24:52 Here is an aerial of the site.
07:24:55 This is Dale Mabry right here.
07:24:58 Iowa Avenue.
07:25:03 Gandy Boulevard is out of frame but to the north on the
07:25:05 aerial if it is zoomed out further.
07:25:08 The zoning area is on single-family homes, and as you can
07:25:11 see there's some multifamily in the area, but it's
07:25:15 predominantly single-family.
07:25:17 Here is the future land use map.
07:25:19 This is the subject site.
07:25:20 Orange residential 10. This is all residential 10. This is
07:25:24 community mixed use 35.
07:25:26 On Dale Mabry Avenue.
07:25:28 The darker brown color is residential 35.
07:25:32 Increasing housing opportunities for Tampa's growing
07:25:35 population, and compatible supported by the comprehensive
07:25:40 plan.
07:25:40 We do find this comparable and compatible with the
07:25:43 surrounding neighborhood and consistent with the
07:25:44 comprehensive plan.
07:25:45 Thank you.
07:25:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions?
07:25:48 Mrs. Feeley?
07:25:48 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you.
07:25:50 The applicant is proposing a request to rezone 3818 west
07:25:55 Iowa from RS-60 to RS-50 to allow for two single-family
07:26:00 detached residential lots.
07:26:03 Lot 12 is 50 by 146.
07:26:05 And lot 11 is 50 by 146.5.
07:26:10 I'm sorry, they are both 146.5.
07:26:13 Therefore the area is 7,325 square feet with substantially
07:26:18 exceeds RS-60 but does not have the minimum lot width to
07:26:22 qualify as an RS-60 lot.
07:26:25 It's presently occupied by a single family dwelling on lot
07:26:29 12 and upon review of the survey it does appear that
07:26:33 structure satisfies the RS-50 so it would not need to be
07:26:36 demolished in order to make the other lot buildable.
07:26:43 The zoning atlas, to put it into perspective, this is Church
07:26:52 Avenue here is a right-of-way but it is unimproved.
07:26:55 So it's green all the way down to just south of this
07:26:59 property.
07:27:00 There is a large church here that was a special use that was
07:27:04 done a few years ago.
07:27:06 So the parking is down in this area.
07:27:09 You can see it a little better.
07:27:12 It appears on this property that there's vacant land next to
07:27:15 it.
07:27:16 It is actually a platted right-of-way but unimproved.
07:27:22 Here is the aerial.
07:27:23 You can see it a little better.
07:27:25 That area I am speaking to here.
07:27:28 Then here is where the place of religious assembly church is
07:27:30 just kind of to the southwest of the subject.
07:27:34 Iowa to the north.
07:27:35 Ohio to the south.
07:27:36 Dale Mabry to the east.
07:27:38 And this is maybe eight or ten blocks south of Gandy
07:27:46 Boulevard.
07:27:49 As mentioned in my staff report coming up, we do have with a
07:27:53 map of the area.
07:27:54 The blue is showing you all the lots that are the platted
07:27:59 lot at the 50 by 146.
07:28:01 This is commercial property along Dale Mabry.
07:28:05 And then the red lots are those lots that conform to the
07:28:08 RS-60.
07:28:09 The lot here was excluded because that is the place of
07:28:13 religious assembly in that area.
07:28:18 Based on the lots that we analyzed for this, 81 lots, 77% of
07:28:24 them are less than 60-foot, and 23% of them are 60-foot or
07:28:31 greater.
07:28:36 As mentioned, this lot would need to meet all the RS
07:28:41 standards.
07:28:41 That's 50 by 100-foot lot as explained to you.
07:28:44 The area was 50 by 146.5.
07:28:47 Therefore that is satisfied.
07:28:48 It would have a 20-foot front, 7-foot side, 20-foot rear
07:28:53 required setback.
07:28:54 Based on our analysis, it does appear that the
07:28:57 reestablishment of the platted lot is consistent with the
07:28:59 existing development pattern of the area, and staff did find
07:29:03 the request consistent.
07:29:05 Lastly, on page 4 of your report, there are some
07:29:08 informational comments from natural resources that there are
07:29:12 trees that will need to be addressed at the time of
07:29:15 permitting and the landscape plan would be required at that
07:29:19 time.
07:29:20 No trees are to be pruned or removed without consent from
07:29:23 natural resources.
07:29:25 That being said, I am available for any questions.
07:29:27 >> [Off microphone.]
07:29:35 Petitioner?
07:29:41 >> 807 west Plymouth street, one of the managers.
07:29:47 We notified all the residents in the area as well as the
07:29:51 other neighborhood associations.
07:29:52 And we did not get any negative response.
07:29:54 A couple phone calls asking questions.
07:29:57 That was about it.
07:29:58 At this time I would like to ask if there's any questions.
07:30:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: [Off microphone.] any questions from
07:30:06 downfall?
07:30:06 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
07:30:09 item number 4, REZ 16-67?
07:30:11 If so, come forward and state your name and address.
07:30:14 >> Diane KentREL, west Iowa.
07:30:22 I am trying to visualize how this will divide the lot up.
07:30:26 Because as I understand, it's going to be rezoned so that
07:30:31 the one lot in the backyard, the house in the backyard will
07:30:34 be divided?
07:30:35 And I am just curious how that will happen.
07:30:39 Thank you.
07:30:39 >> So currently there's a double lot.
07:30:44 Our house is on the west side of the property.
07:30:47 And it meets the setback on the side.
07:30:49 So the lots to the east will be developed with the
07:30:52 single-family home.
07:30:53 It will be just as it is now.
07:30:55 The house that's there will stay.
07:30:56 And the new house built next to it.
07:30:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you guys want to have a conversation, you
07:31:04 can.
07:31:05 But of if you want us involved, please come on up.
07:31:07 No, come on up.
07:31:09 Come on up.
07:31:10 >> I came from Orlando just to ask this one question.
07:31:15 I really would like to tell me so that I can understand.
07:31:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ma'am, did you not get informed of this?
07:31:24 >> Oh, yes, I did.
07:31:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Did you not get a chance to talk?
07:31:28 >> I actually looked online Tom try to see something visual
07:31:31 and I was not successful in finding anything.
07:31:33 So this gentleman reached out to me and he has been
07:31:37 diligent.
07:31:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you can put it on the map.
07:31:40 Put the map up.
07:31:41 >>
07:31:42 >> Here is the survey of the property.
07:31:44 Here is Iowa.
07:31:45 What's your address?
07:31:48 >> 38123.
07:31:49 >> So if you are coming down Iowa heading west, this is the
07:31:52 vacant lot right now.
07:31:54 >> Okay.
07:31:54 >> Where the single-family home is.
07:31:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could, it looks like you just tried to
07:32:01 explain exactly what's going to be there.
07:32:03 We are trying to keep going.
07:32:05 If you don't mind doing that, that will be great.
07:32:06 >> I don't have any objections.
07:32:08 Just so I understand it.
07:32:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's perfectly fine.
07:32:12 That's all we need to hear.
07:32:13 Is there anyone else in the public that would like to speak
07:32:15 on item number 4, REZ 16-67?
07:32:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move to close.
07:32:21 >> We have a motion to close by Mr. Miranda.
07:32:23 A second from Mrs. Montelione.
07:32:25 All in favor of that motion?
07:32:26 Any opposed?
07:32:28 Mrs. Capin, will you kindly take item number 46.
07:32:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
07:32:34 Okay.
07:32:36 Ordinance being presented for first reading consideration,
07:32:38 an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of
07:32:41 3818 west Iowa Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more
07:32:45 particularly described in section 1 from zoning district
07:32:47 classifications RS-60 residential, single-family, to RS-50,
07:32:52 residential, single-family, providing an effective date.
07:32:54 >> Second.
07:32:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mrs. Capin.
07:32:58 I have a second from Mrs. Montelione.
07:32:59 All in favor of that motion?
07:33:01 Any opposed?
07:33:02 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
07:33:05 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
07:33:07 9:30 a.m.
07:33:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:33:10 Item number 5.
07:33:11 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
07:33:16 Item number 5 on your agenda this evening is REZ 16-70.
07:33:20 It's located at 4216 west Leona street.
07:33:25 The request before you tonight is from an RS-60
07:33:30 single-family to RS-50 single-family.
07:33:32 This is Euclidean rezoning request and therefore no waivers
07:33:35 are permitted.
07:33:37 >> Jennifer Malone with your Planning Commission staff.
07:33:46 This is the new South Tampa planning district.
07:33:49 The closest transit stop is located at the intersection of
07:33:52 south Dale Mabry and Leona street.
07:33:56 Route 4, 19 and 36 serve that stop. This is level C
07:33:59 evacuation zone.
07:34:00 Here is an aerial of the site.
07:34:04 This is the subject site right here.
07:34:06 This is Manhattan Avenue.
07:34:09 And Leona street.
07:34:11 And Bay To Bay right here and west El Prado right here.
07:34:16 The surrounding area is low density single-family
07:34:19 residential.
07:34:20 There are some commercial uses along El Prado and along Bay
07:34:23 to Bay Boulevard.
07:34:25 This is the future land use map.
07:34:28 All of this is residential 10.
07:34:31 The yellow is residential 6.
07:34:32 And then I have community mixed use 35 along west El Prado
07:34:38 and west Bay to Bay Boulevard.
07:34:40 The proposed rezoning would provide more opportunities for
07:34:42 housing and the needs and preferences of the households as
07:34:46 well as compatible in-fill development which is supported by
07:34:49 the comprehensive plan.
07:34:50 This is comparable and compatible with the surrounding
07:34:53 neighborhood and we found it consistent with the
07:34:55 comprehensive plan.
07:34:56 I'm available for any questions.
07:34:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:34:58 Mrs. Feeley.
07:34:59 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you.
07:35:03 The request before you is 4216 west Leon eh.
07:35:07 The request is 4216 West Leona. The request is from RS 60
07:35:09 residential single-family to RS-50 single-family.
07:35:15 The aerial is a little dark.
07:35:20 The property is 100 by 120.
07:35:23 So that would allow for two 50 by 120 lots.
07:35:28 And a total of 12,000 square feet.
07:35:31 Again it would meet 6,000 of the RS 60 but it doesn't meet
07:35:36 the width.
07:35:43 The property is shown here in green.
07:35:46 Leona.
07:35:48 Manhattan.
07:35:50 Hubert.
07:35:51 Lois.
07:35:51 This RS-50 is a recent rezoning.
07:35:54 Those houses have been constructed.
07:35:56 I have some pictures of those for you.
07:35:58 What I am going to do is start down on the north corner of
07:36:03 Leona and Hubert and come back up the street and I did catch
07:36:08 those as well.
07:36:14 Here is the conforming map for you.
07:36:18 The property is shown here in green.
07:36:21 The property immediately to the east are 50-foot lots on 50
07:36:26 by 120.
07:36:27 Those directly across the street are 50 by 120.
07:36:31 We did an analysis of the total of 136 lots.
07:36:35 In this case, 74% or 100 of those were found at 60-foot or
07:36:42 greater.
07:36:43 Those are the red.
07:36:44 And a total of 36 or 26% were less than 60-foot or the
07:36:50 original platted lot.
07:36:52 On the subject lot, there were a total of 16.
07:36:58 Of the 16, 10 of them were greater.
07:37:01 50-foot or greater.
07:37:02 And 6 were less than the 60 feet.
07:37:11 Staff's analysis based on the block face of the subject
07:37:15 block, that given that those five properties to the east
07:37:19 were found to be -- and the ones immediately interfacing
07:37:25 with the subject were also as the original platted, that the
07:37:29 reestablishment would be consistent.
07:37:38 Again, starting at that corner of Leona, the north condition
07:37:44 of Leona and Hubert, and moving east.
07:37:51 Crossing over Lois, this is the RS-50, two lots that were
07:38:12 just constructed.
07:38:13 And immediately adjacent to that is another that has been
07:38:22 somewhat partially torn down and then is going to be
07:38:25 permitted for remodeling, reconstruction.
07:38:28 On the south side, headed back down Leona toward the subject
07:38:32 property, we are now approaching the subject property, south
07:38:42 side.
07:38:42 This is the subject.
07:38:45 This is also the subject.
07:38:48 To the west of the subject.
07:38:53 This is to the west.
07:38:58 Based on the analysis, and as I mentioned the block face
07:39:04 pattern, staff did find the request consistent, and I am
07:39:07 available for any questions.
07:39:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:39:09 Any questions from council at this time?
07:39:12 Petitioner?
07:39:13 >> Good evening, council.
07:39:18 I'm representing the property owner.
07:39:22 He is requesting this become an RS-50, as Abbye has already
07:39:27 pointed out, a the lot is 100 feet wide by 120 feet deep and
07:39:32 the intent is to create two buildable lots for two
07:39:36 single-family residences.
07:39:38 The area is filled with a lot of redevelopment.
07:39:41 There's a great deal of reconstruction going on.
07:39:43 And principally designed to take care of the existing
07:39:47 infrastructure, or stormwater, sewers, water, and the
07:39:52 streets that are already in existence.
07:39:57 I don't know what's wrong with this microphone here.
07:40:00 A lot of feedback, I guess.
07:40:03 There are no waivers that can be granted through this
07:40:06 process.
07:40:06 And we have to meet all of the technical standards regarding
07:40:09 parking, landscaping, and all of the other requirements,
07:40:15 dealt with at permitting.
07:40:17 And this is the redevelopment effort.
07:40:19 It provides new construction in an in-fill neighborhood
07:40:24 that's already existing, and understood going a lot of
07:40:26 redevelopment.
07:40:27 I respectfully request your approval.
07:40:28 I would certainly be happy to answer any questions you might
07:40:30 have.
07:40:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Is there any questions from council at this
07:40:33 time?
07:40:34 Okay.
07:40:34 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
07:40:37 item number 5, REZ 16-70?
07:40:40 Please come forward.
07:40:42 State your name and address.
07:40:46 Yes, ma'am.
07:40:46 >> Kim Davis, I live at 4215 west Leona street Tampa,
07:40:53 Florida, directly across the street from this property.
07:40:56 The property is in disrepair, needs to come down.
07:41:00 I do not agree with the RS-50.
07:41:02 I have been involved with the building industry in Tampa
07:41:08 since early eighties, and I know that City Council voted for
07:41:12 RS-60 in mid 90s and there was a reason for that.
07:41:16 And now we are going down and going backwards.
07:41:19 The reason that we did the RS-60 was based on stormwater.
07:41:23 This street floods.
07:41:24 We get walking catfish when it rains.
07:41:27 When it rains there's standing water on that street for five
07:41:29 days later.
07:41:30 Okay.
07:41:34 I am currently in an RS 507 lot, not by my preference, but
07:41:39 there are parking issues.
07:41:40 There's a lot of issues for property that was split to RS-50
07:41:43 most recently on the corner.
07:41:45 They are building huge monstrosities on a tiny lot and we
07:41:48 are going backwards.
07:41:49 So you can say that that particular block has RS-50 on it.
07:41:55 There are letters in our mailboxes every day wanting to tear
07:41:58 those houses down.
07:41:59 I mean, if we are going to go back to where we started, then
07:42:02 why don't we go back and revisit that original RS-60 zoning?
07:42:10 Are you prepared to change that to RS-50 everywhere?
07:42:12 Because I see where people are requesting RS-50, and I do
07:42:16 not agree with it, there are reasons that the RS-60 was put
07:42:19 in place.
07:42:19 And we live it every day.
07:42:21 Parking is an issue on that street.
07:42:23 Significant issue.
07:42:24 We have pictures of cars parked behind our lot, people
07:42:30 hitting cars every time.
07:42:32 There's a lot of kids in our neighborhood.
07:42:34 We keep adding more houses.
07:42:35 I just don't understand.
07:42:37 If you really want to go to RS-50 then let's reverse the
07:42:40 whole RS-60 all the way across the board then instead of
07:42:43 approving them one by one because the city is getting more
07:42:47 in taxes and that's what it's all about.
07:42:49 It's about money.
07:42:50 So think of the stormwater.
07:42:52 The stormwater assessment for 20 years now and yet you are
07:42:55 going to go back and bankrupt stormwater negatively, you
07:42:59 know.
07:43:03 Talk about adding all these houses, and that's my concern.
07:43:07 And I hope that you will consider it because it's not just
07:43:10 this street.
07:43:10 It's not just tonight.
07:43:11 It's not just this request.
07:43:13 I'm sure you are seeing it more and more.
07:43:15 And you all are the ones making that decision.
07:43:17 So change the general RS-60 if that's what you want to do
07:43:20 and then let's see how much complaint you get about that.
07:43:23 Thank you.
07:43:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
07:43:25 Anyone else in the public like to speak on item number 5?
07:43:28 Please come forward.
07:43:29 If there's anyone else that is thinking about speaking on
07:43:31 item number 5, if you want to stand up and get ready, too,
07:43:35 that would be great.
07:43:36 Ma'am.
07:43:36 >> I'm Diane Griffin.
07:43:39 I live at 4217 Leona.
07:43:42 Also across the street from the property in question.
07:43:46 The reason I put this here is because I was under the
07:43:49 impression that sometimes when we get in here that, oh, no,
07:43:53 you are not an RS-60 at all.
07:43:55 I just want to prove, yes, we are not a 60.
07:44:01 I took some pictures when I knew that this was coming.
07:44:05 I started taking pictures.
07:44:06 I personally had someone park in front of my house every
07:44:10 day.
07:44:11 75% of the time.
07:44:13 And it's all because, you know, overpopulating some of this
07:44:21 area.
07:44:21 But look.
07:44:23 This very first picture, somebody decided to park right
07:44:26 behind my driveway.
07:44:27 They don't live there.
07:44:29 There's a maid for the other house but that makes it
07:44:34 extremely dangerous for me getting out of the driveway.
07:44:37 And I want to bring up the point in this area, there are
07:44:41 four houses here.
07:44:42 There have been four accidents of backing up.
07:44:50 The two I think is very interesting, this guy has decided
07:44:53 he's going to park up on the curb, so it just shows you
07:45:00 what's happening here.
07:45:02 Figure number 3 is that truck there.
07:45:05 Well, that is my lawn service.
07:45:08 That's my lawn service can't park in front of my house
07:45:11 because somebody else is always parked in front of my house.
07:45:14 And Mr. Brown, I love him to death, he doesn't very much any
07:45:19 cars or anything.
07:45:21 I can't imagine what my property is going to be like when
07:45:25 they put two houses over there.
07:45:27 So the other things, other people, taking pictures of people
07:45:32 that park in front of my house all the time.
07:45:35 And that will not improve with two homes going across there.
07:45:40 The other thing is just normal things that I know that you
07:45:42 have addressed before, safety, kids darting out, people
07:45:47 parking.
07:45:47 It's not safe, okay?
07:45:49 The garbage people trying to get to our garbage.
07:45:52 I see somebody -- I take my garbage out at night.
07:45:56 Then I look. Somebody is parked.
07:45:58 The garbage man can't get to my garbage and I have garbage
07:46:02 for another two or three days, okay.
07:46:03 The same way with the mailman.
07:46:06 I know you guys have heard this before.
07:46:08 (Bell sounds)
07:46:09 I did my own percentages.
07:46:11 We have 17 houses on that street.
07:46:13 And passed into the 50% -- 50-foot.
07:46:20 That's 35%.
07:46:22 I feel like we contributed to the builders.
07:46:25 We have helped.
07:46:26 Stormwater, though, is the biggest thing.
07:46:28 You did the stormwater thing.
07:46:30 Let's not counteract it with overpopulating.
07:46:35 That's basically all I have.
07:46:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
07:46:39 Anyone else in the public that would like to speak on item
07:46:42 number 5?
07:46:44 Okay.
07:46:44 Rebuttal, Mr. Michelini?
07:46:47 >>STEVE MICHELINI: We went through an extensive staff
07:46:50 review, and were found to be consistent by the zoning staff
07:46:54 as well as the Planning Commission.
07:46:57 For consideration of this proposal to rezone to RS-50.
07:47:01 And I stated earlier, we cannot waive in the any of the
07:47:06 requirements for stormwater or for transportation and
07:47:08 parking.
07:47:09 So we have to meet all of those codes as they are currently
07:47:12 established by the city.
07:47:14 I understand that as neighborhoods redevelop and as older
07:47:18 homes are being torn down, and try to encourage the
07:47:22 redevelopment of them, it does increase the tax base, but it
07:47:25 also relies upon the existing infrastructure which is part
07:47:28 of a land use plan for encouraging redevelopment of various
07:47:33 areas.
07:47:33 So I would respectfully request your approval.
07:47:37 This is a decent project with single-family homes going into
07:47:41 an area, and as one of the other members said when they got
07:47:46 up and made a comment that this needs to be torn down.
07:47:49 It is in poor condition.
07:47:50 And it would add to the neighborhood and assist in
07:47:56 redeveloping this property.
07:47:59 There is no intention of anyone in this project for parking
07:48:03 on the street or in front of someone else's house.
07:48:05 We'll have to have parking retained on our own site.
07:48:09 So I will be happy to answer any questions you have.
07:48:11 But I respectfully request your approval.
07:48:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:48:15 Any questions from council by the petitioner?
07:48:18 Okay.
07:48:20 We have public comment already.
07:48:21 Is there a motion to close?
07:48:24 I have a motion to close from Mrs. Montelione, a second from
07:48:26 Mr. Maniscalco.
07:48:28 All in favor of that motion?
07:48:30 Any opposed?
07:48:31 Mr. Reddick, will you kindly take item number 5?
07:48:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move an ordinance being presented for
07:48:40 first reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning property
07:48:44 in the general vicinity of 4216 west Leona street in the
07:48:48 city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in
07:48:50 section 1 from zoning district classification RS-60
07:48:53 residential single-family to RS-50 residential
07:48:56 single-family, providing an effective date.
07:48:57 >> Second.
07:48:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion from Mr. Reddick, a second
07:49:00 from Mr. Maniscalco.
07:49:02 All in favor of that motion?
07:49:04 Any opposed?
07:49:05 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Cohen voting.
07:49:10 No second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd
07:49:13 at 9:30 a.m.
07:49:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item number 6.
07:49:16 >>> Feel Land Development Coordination.
07:49:26 Item number 6 on your agenda is REZ 16-76 located at 3511
07:49:31 north 29th street.
07:49:34 Before you tonight is RM-16 residential multifamily to CG
07:49:37 commercial general.
07:49:38 This is the Euclidean request.
07:49:40 Therefore no waivers are permitted.
07:49:41 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff.
07:49:51 We are in the East Tampa urban village.
07:49:53 The closest transit stop is located on north 29th street
07:49:57 across the street from the subject site.
07:49:59 Hart route 18.
07:50:01 Serve it is area.
07:50:03 Here is the aerial.
07:50:07 This is north 29th street.
07:50:09 And then east 28th Avenue.
07:50:12 And then this is north 30th street right here.
07:50:18 North 29th street has historically been a neighborhood
07:50:23 commercial.
07:50:24 >>SANTIAGO CORRADA: For the East Tampa community.
07:50:26 This is the future land use map which is kind of thinned out
07:50:31 but I do have the community mixed 35 all the way north on
07:50:33 29th street indicating that historical commercial
07:50:36 corridor.
07:50:36 And then all of this brown is the residential 20, and then
07:50:40 this orange is the residential 10.
07:50:43 The proposed commercial general zoning district would
07:50:46 continue the redevelopment of this portion of 29th
07:50:48 street along this corridor.
07:50:52 A mixture of commercial and residential uses is encouraged
07:50:55 within the land use, community mixed use 35.
07:50:57 And in the Tampa urban village.
07:51:01 Overall the rezoning is comparable and compatible with the
07:51:04 surrounding area and is consistent with the Tampa
07:51:06 comprehensive plan.
07:51:06 I'm available for any questions.
07:51:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
07:51:10 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land development.
07:51:14 The property at 3511 north 29th street is being
07:51:18 requested to be rezoned from RM-16 to CG commercial general.
07:51:26 Commercial general property does require 10,000 square foot
07:51:32 lot, minimum of 100 by 100.
07:51:35 As Jennifer just mentioned the CMU 35 allows for
07:51:38 consideration of the CG in this location.
07:51:41 The property is surrounded by single-family dwellings total
07:51:46 east and north, and vacant lots to the south, and west.
07:51:51 There is also some commercial to the west across 29th
07:51:55 and I will show you that to you in pictures that I did take
07:51:59 of the place.
07:52:02 It would be subject to a series of CG regulations.
07:52:09 The property is shown here in green.
07:52:11 28th to the north.
07:52:16 Cisco to the south.
07:52:17 29th street to the west.
07:52:20 There is an alley that runs behind the property.
07:52:23 I did take pictures from there.
07:52:25 So I will give you some shots from there as well.
07:52:31 The aerial of the site does show the property as being
07:52:36 vacant.
07:52:37 There is vacant property in between.
07:52:39 And then there is a house.
07:52:42 There are a couple of houses here. This is where I was
07:52:44 talking about there being some other nonresidential uses.
07:52:51 This is the subject property.
07:52:58 This is the south end of the subject.
07:53:02 This is the vacant parcel in between.
07:53:04 And then this is to the south of the corner of Chipco and
07:53:13 29th. This is the southeast corner of Chipco and 29th.
07:53:16 These units face Chipco.
07:53:18 This is the back of the house.
07:53:19 This is coming up the alley now looking back west toward
07:53:23 29th.
07:53:24 Approaching the subject.
07:53:26 This is from 28th looking south.
07:53:29 This is across the street.
07:53:32 The southwest corner.
07:53:36 This is now moving north on 29th, the west side of the
07:53:41 street.
07:53:42 So that is a house.
07:53:46 Then this was the nonresidential, looks like some office
07:53:50 suites.
07:53:50 Some of them that are vacant.
07:53:52 Moving up 29th.
07:53:53 This is also -- that is at the corner of 28th and
07:53:58 29th.
07:53:59 28th Avenue, the northwest corner.
07:54:03 This is north of the site on 29th.
07:54:07 Also north of the site on 29th.
07:54:10 And then as you approach lake, there are some nonresidential
07:54:16 uses on the east side of 29th.
07:54:26 The staff did find the request consistent.
07:54:28 There were no objections from the East Tampa redevelopment
07:54:30 office.
07:54:31 This property will be subject to the East Tampa overlay at
07:54:34 the time of development.
07:54:38 I'm available for any questions.
07:54:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
07:54:42 Thank you.
07:54:42 Petitioner?
07:54:43 >> My name is Demetrius Jenkins, north 33rd street.
07:54:52 I'm the owner of this property.
07:54:53 And I'm here just asking that you honor my request.
07:54:57 Any questions?
07:54:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
07:55:00 I have one.
07:55:01 What's on there now?
07:55:02 It looks like there is like a manufactured home or
07:55:04 something?
07:55:05 >> Yes.
07:55:05 I had that put there about two months ago till I found out
07:55:08 that it was --
07:55:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Are you running your business out of there
07:55:14 right now?
07:55:15 >> No.
07:55:15 No, it's vacant.
07:55:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And why did you put it there if it's vacant?
07:55:21 Why did you put the building there?
07:55:25 >> To put my business.
07:55:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I got you.
07:55:28 What kind of business is it?
07:55:30 >> Bail bondsman office.
07:55:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay, sir.
07:55:33 Any other questions?
07:55:34 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
07:55:37 item number 6, REZ 16-76?
07:55:40 Anyone in the public that would like to speak at this time?
07:55:42 >> Move to close.
07:55:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion to close from Mr.
07:55:46 Maniscalco, a second from Mr. Cohen.
07:55:49 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
07:55:51 Any opposed?
07:55:52 Mr. Miranda, will you kindly take item number 6?
07:56:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move file REZ 16-76, for first reading
07:56:04 consideration, an ordinance rezoning property in the general
07:56:06 vicinity of 3511 north 29th street in the city of Tampa,
07:56:10 Florida and more particularly described in section 1 from
07:56:12 zoning district classification RM-16 residential multifamily
07:56:15 to CG commercial general, providing an effective date.
07:56:18 >> Second.
07:56:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Miranda.
07:56:21 I have a second by Mrs. Montelione.
07:56:22 All in favor of that motion?
07:56:25 Any opposed?
07:56:25 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried unanimously.
07:56:29 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
07:56:31 9:30 a.m.
07:56:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
07:56:33 Item number 7.
07:56:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
07:56:40 Item number 7 on your agenda this evening is REZ 16-78,
07:56:44 located at 4911 in and out Manhattan Avenue.
07:56:48 The request before you tonight is from CG commercial general
07:56:52 to CI commercial intensive.
07:56:54 This is a Euclidean rezoning request and therefore no
07:56:57 waivers are permitted.
07:56:58 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff, here in the
07:57:07 South Tampa planning district, designated urban mixed use
07:57:11 16.
07:57:12 There is a transit stop north of the subject site at the
07:57:15 corner of Manhattan Avenue and Gandy Boulevard.
07:57:18 Served by route 19.
07:57:19 It is in a level C evacuation zone.
07:57:22 Here is an aerial.
07:57:24 This is Gandy.
07:57:26 And Manhattan.
07:57:29 There's commercial use as long Gandy Boulevard.
07:57:31 And this is Lois.
07:57:33 This is a WalMart super center.
07:57:35 And then we have residential in this area right here.
07:57:39 This is a future land use map.
07:57:42 Urban mixed use 60 as indicated by the subject site right
07:57:45 here.
07:57:46 All along here.
07:57:47 This red is community commercial 35.
07:57:50 And then they have residential 10 in the orange color.
07:57:54 The requested rezoning is comparable and compatible with the
07:57:58 surrounding area and the urban mixed use future land use
07:58:01 category and it is consistent with the comprehensive plan.
07:58:04 I'm available for any questions.
07:58:05 Thank you.
07:58:10 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
07:58:19 The development, the property at 4911 south Manhattan is
07:58:23 asking to be rezoned from CG to CI, commercial general to
07:58:27 commercial intensive, to allow for commercial uses.
07:58:32 It is a .68-acre prompt located at the northwest corner of
07:58:37 McElroy Avenue and south Manhattan and is currently vacant.
07:58:40 I think it's currently used as some storage, but this is
07:58:46 located just behind the Kentucky Fried Chicken and Dunkin'
07:58:51 Donuts and the new Chris pea treats located on the south
07:58:55 side of Dale Mabry Highway.
07:58:58 Just down the street from checkers and Burger King.
07:59:04 Dinnertime.
07:59:05 West Gandy is to the north.
07:59:06 Manhattan to the east.
07:59:09 KFC, treat, Hooters, and this is the property located here.
07:59:19 There is cross access easement on that property that
07:59:22 provides access to the KFC and the Dunkin' Donuts.
07:59:29 It's interesting because little Caesars is actually looking
07:59:33 and has come in to talk about going there a few months back.
07:59:36 Anyhow, here is the other intersection.
07:59:38 It's car lot, Jiffy lube, Wendys, and the laundromat, and
07:59:44 MacDonald, CVS.
07:59:48 I think you are familiar with where we are in the city.
07:59:51 The property immediately to the east across Manhattan and to
07:59:53 the north on the north side of Gandy are all commercial
07:59:57 intensive.
07:59:58 This section here and abutting this where is commercial
08:00:05 intensive as well.
08:00:06 That corridor is stepped back to CG and then to the RS-50.
08:00:10 The request before you tonight is to convert this green
08:00:13 portion here to a CI use.
08:00:18 I will go ahead and show you some pictures.
08:00:23 This is the subject from Manhattan looking west.
08:00:30 This is the southwest corner of the subject.
08:00:33 This is the northern boundary of the subject.
08:00:36 And there is that access that I was discussing.
08:00:40 This is across the street on south Manhattan.
08:00:43 South of the property.
08:00:46 This is approaching Paul Avenue.
08:00:48 This is the northwest corner of Paul and south Manhattan.
08:00:54 The property to the north.
08:00:58 Another shot of that.
08:01:00 Immediately to the east.
08:01:03 And at the intersection of Gandy and Manhattan.
08:01:08 The subject property does meet the minimum requirement for
08:01:12 the commercial intensive.
08:01:15 Zoning classification as I mentioned, there would be no
08:01:18 waivers requested.
08:01:18 So all the required buffering and all other regulations
08:01:21 would need to be satisfied at the time of development.
08:01:24 Staff is available.
08:01:25 It was found to be consistent and staff is available for any
08:01:28 questions.
08:01:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:01:30 Any questions from council?
08:01:32 Petitioner?
08:01:41 >> Good evening.
08:01:42 Robert McLean, I represent the owner J enterprises.
08:01:50 The property is surrounded on three sides by commercial
08:01:54 intensive, and currently a 6-foot block wall on the south
08:01:59 side that's going to remain.
08:02:01 And then staff pointed out there's an access drive that
08:02:05 currently serves as a fast food restaurant, and R.
08:02:12 I field add few calls from the neighbors.
08:02:14 Nobody has objected to it.
08:02:16 There was Allen Smith.
08:02:18 I know that he's here but he's president of Gandy Civic
08:02:20 Association, and he supports it as well.
08:02:23 If there are any questions, I am here happy to answer.
08:02:27 Any questions by council?
08:02:31 Any questions from council?
08:02:33 What's going to be going in there, sir, if you don't mind me
08:02:36 asking?
08:02:37 >> Well, my client's business is the symbol playground
08:02:43 equipment so that's the most likely use.
08:02:45 But that's the idea.
08:02:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:02:50 Is there anyone in the public to speak on item number 7, REZ
08:02:54 16-78?
08:02:56 Please come forward.
08:03:04 You could just sit in one of the seats up here.
08:03:08 >> Mr. Chairman, members of council.
08:03:10 I have not been sworn, Mr. Shelby.
08:03:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, we'll swear at you right now.
08:03:15 (Laughter).
08:03:18 (Oath administered by Clerk)
08:03:20 >> I do.
08:03:33 Good morning.
08:03:34 Good afternoon.
08:03:35 I'm Al Steenson, 4100 west Leila representing as I have for
08:03:40 many years the Gandy Sun Bay South neighborhood association.
08:03:48 I discussed this on Monday at our meeting, and there was a
08:03:53 vote taken that we are in support of this petition.
08:03:56 Why?
08:03:59 If this gentleman wants to invest in our neighborhood, I say
08:04:02 all for it.
08:04:03 If he does what he's going to do, that means there won't be
08:04:06 any more apartments there.
08:04:08 We have enough of those.
08:04:10 And there is one thing, I spoke to Mr. McLean about it.
08:04:15 And it is on the Mac elementary side, there is a block wall
08:04:20 that goes through there, and just completely covered over
08:04:24 with species, and we hope that the petitioner of the
08:04:29 property owner will clean that up and make it a little more
08:04:32 presentable.
08:04:33 I don't know whether -- I took a picture.
08:04:39 I don't know whether it will show up in here or not.
08:04:46 I don't know whether that will show or not.
08:04:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Turn it around a little bit, Mr. Steenson.
08:04:52 The other way.
08:04:53 >> Other way around?
08:04:59 There you go.
08:04:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's it.
08:05:01 >> The block wall here.
08:05:07 And I don't know whether it's Brazilian peppers or what it
08:05:10 is.
08:05:11 But there will be no access allowed to McElroy according to
08:05:17 the petition.
08:05:20 And but I would hope of that they would clean that up and
08:05:24 make it more presentable to the neighbors that live on
08:05:26 McElroy.
08:05:27 So thank you very much for your time.
08:05:29 And you all have a good evening.
08:05:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
08:05:32 Is there anyone else in the public that would like to speak
08:05:34 on item number 7, REZ 16-78?
08:05:37 Sir?
08:05:39 >> John Irvin, Tampa.
08:05:42 I'm the owner.
08:05:46 It's so small, commercial type building there.
08:05:49 As far as the vegetation, when I purchased the property it
08:05:52 was completely overgrown.
08:05:54 And not maintained for 20-plus years.
08:05:58 Knocking down a big tree in the next two weeks, try to get
08:06:02 rest of the weeds in there.
08:06:04 It's the responsibility of Dunkin donut but they are not
08:06:07 doing anything to make the property more presentable.
08:06:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir. Is there anyone in the
08:06:13 public not connected to this case directly that would like
08:06:16 to be speak at this time on this item?
08:06:17 I see no one.
08:06:19 I have a motion to close by Mr. Cohen.
08:06:21 I have a second by Mr. Maniscalco.
08:06:23 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
08:06:26 Any opposed?
08:06:27 Mrs. Montelione, will you kindly take item number 7?
08:06:30 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move an ordinance being presented for
08:06:33 first reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning property
08:06:35 in the general vicinity of 4911 south Manhattan Avenue in
08:06:38 the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described
08:06:40 in section 1 from zoning district classifications CG
08:06:44 commercial general to CI commercial intensive, providing an
08:06:46 effective date.
08:06:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mrs. Montelione.
08:06:50 I have a second from Mr. Miranda.
08:06:51 All in favor of that motion?
08:06:53 Any opposed?
08:06:54 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried unanimously.
08:06:57 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
08:06:59 9:30 a.m.
08:07:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:07:02 Item number 9.
08:07:03 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
08:07:07 Item number 9 is REZ 16-69.
08:07:10 It's located at 6301 South Westshore Boulevard.
08:07:15 The request before you tonight is PD planned development,
08:07:19 residential multifamily, to PD, planned development,
08:07:22 residential, multifamily.
08:07:25 For just a minute before Jennifer comes up, you may recall
08:07:28 this case was just before you in April.
08:07:30 And the request before you that night was for a 5-story
08:07:35 building on page 2 of the property, and the request before
08:07:43 you tonight is to increase that previously approved building
08:07:47 from 5 stories to six stories and to increase the number of
08:07:50 units from 500 to 598.
08:07:54 The footprint of that building is remaining the same.
08:07:57 The layout of the site is remaining the same.
08:07:59 The phase one is remaining the same.
08:08:01 The amount of units exceeds the allowable 5% that can be
08:08:05 granted administratively by the city after a PD is approved.
08:08:09 So that is one of the reasons why the application is back
08:08:12 before you tonight.
08:08:13 If it looks familiar, it should.
08:08:16 We just did the rezoning back in April.
08:08:19 And as I stated, all conditions on the plan are remaining
08:08:22 exactly the same.
08:08:23 There are no increased waivers.
08:08:25 There are no new waivers.
08:08:26 It is resulting in exactly the same space that it was
08:08:29 before.
08:08:30 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff.
08:08:39 This is the new South Tampa planning district with be the
08:08:42 future land use residential 35.
08:08:46 There is a transit stop located adjacent to the site served
08:08:49 by route 19 and everyone level A evacuation zone.
08:08:53 Here is an aerial of the site.
08:08:56 This is the site right here.
08:09:01 Westshore Boulevard.
08:09:02 There's multifamily.
08:09:03 Multifamily.
08:09:04 Multifamily.
08:09:06 This is the subject.
08:09:07 I believe there's a public school and then a park to the
08:09:10 south.
08:09:12 Here is a future land use map.
08:09:14 The blue indicating public.
08:09:16 This orange once again is residential 10.
08:09:19 The subject site is residential 35.
08:09:21 And that green indicates environmentally sensitive areas.
08:09:25 It has two future land uses.
08:09:30 This color here is transitional use 24.
08:09:33 The site is located adjacent to public transportation and
08:09:36 public recreational facility which is enclosed by the
08:09:41 comprehensive plan.
08:09:41 It's also still within the density allowed under the future
08:09:44 land use category of the comprehensive plan.
08:09:47 So it is comparable and compatible with the surrounding
08:09:50 neighborhood.
08:09:50 And we found it consistent.
08:09:52 I'm available for any questions.
08:09:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
08:09:56 Mrs. Feeley.
08:09:56 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
08:09:59 As I mentioned to you before Jennifer spoke, the request
08:10:03 before you tonight is from a PD to PD residential
08:10:06 multifamily in order to increase the height of the
08:10:10 previously approved building and the number of units.
08:10:13 As Jennifer just mentioned, this site -- and as my staff
08:10:17 report mentioned, and mentioned previously in April, it is
08:10:22 47.81 acres.
08:10:23 It's currently developed with 832 multifamily residential
08:10:27 units that were constructed in 1986 pursuant to the R-3-A.
08:10:34 They are seeking to retain 608 within the southern property
08:10:38 as originally constructed, and to demolish and reconstruct
08:10:42 the northern portion of the property, again as part of phase
08:10:43 2.
08:10:46 The subject property as mentioned was rezoned in April for a
08:10:48 five-story 500 unit.
08:10:50 The current application seeks to increase the building to 6
08:10:53 stories and allow for 598 units.
08:10:58 The site as a whole is eligible for 1,292 units, and they
08:11:04 are asking for a total of 1,197.
08:11:08 A total of 1936 parking spaces are required, and a total of
08:11:13 2,067 are being provided.
08:11:17 Identified on the site plan as the two phases, the property
08:11:20 is one zoning lot for the purposes of density, green space
08:11:23 and tree retention.
08:11:27 As Jennifer showed you, here is the aerial.
08:11:30 Westshore Yacht Club is just to the north.
08:11:33 To the south, I believe, is Camden.
08:11:40 Apartments.
08:11:40 Here is the zoning atlas showing you the PD that was
08:11:44 recently done.
08:11:45 PDA to the north.
08:11:46 RS-60 to the east.
08:11:48 Across Westshore Boulevard.
08:11:50 I will go ahead and show you some pictures of the site in
08:11:53 order to just refresh your memory.
08:11:55 This is the subject property.
08:12:03 Camden preserve to the south.
08:12:06 Westshore Yacht Club to the north.
08:12:09 This is the south view looking down Westshore.
08:12:19 On the east side of the property on Westshore is
08:12:23 single-family residential.
08:12:28 Here is Iowa and Westshore.
08:12:31 Fair view and Westshore.
08:12:34 This is commercial.
08:12:36 I think we rezoned for a pizza place that never came about.
08:12:42 It's an old laundromat.
08:12:44 Then there's a convenience store.
08:12:45 And then this is the corner of Ohio and Westshore.
08:12:51 The subject property as I mentioned was rezoned.
08:12:55 There are no modifications with one exception.
08:12:58 There's a solid waste note that needs to be placed on the
08:13:01 plan verbatim as provided in the staff report in between
08:13:04 first and second reading.
08:13:06 If those items are placed on, staff did find the request
08:13:10 consistent, and we are available for any questions.
08:13:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions from council?
08:13:17 Petitioner?
08:13:35 I have to say, you definitely keep the printing industry in
08:13:39 business.
08:14:12 >>GINA GRIMES: Law firm of Hill, Ward, Henderson, 101 East
08:14:16 Kennedy Boulevard.
08:14:17 And I'm before you again tonight representing court land
08:14:22 apartments which owns this 48-acre piece of property,
08:14:24 waterfront property.
08:14:29 On which -- do you have a question?
08:14:32 >> No.
08:14:35 Go ahead.
08:14:35 I apologize.
08:14:36 >> It's a 48-acre site on the water on South Westshore
08:14:41 Boulevard.
08:14:43 Westshore Boulevard, Gandy Boulevard.
08:14:44 It's further to the north.
08:14:47 Being developed as a multifamily project for the last 30
08:14:50 years.
08:14:51 And we are proposing to continue that.
08:14:54 As I mentioned at the last hearing back in the spring, when
08:14:56 we first brought this PD to you, my client purchased this
08:14:59 property in 2015, and they paid $85 million for it.
08:15:04 Since then, they built at 29 million in renovation.
08:15:10 The rezoning approval relates mostly to this northern 10
08:15:14 acres of the property.
08:15:15 The remaining portion of the property, the southern portion
08:15:19 of the property, is going to remain as is.
08:15:24 City Council approved a PD that allowed us to demolish 224
08:15:29 units in the northern portion and construct 500 units,
08:15:34 5-story building, and that was the reason they are going
08:15:37 vertical.
08:15:38 It's obviously on the water.
08:15:39 So they can take advantage of the view.
08:15:43 Of that PD approval yielded a net increase overall for the
08:15:47 entire site of 276 additional units.
08:15:52 Subsequent to when that rezoning was approved back in the
08:15:55 spring, it was discovered as a result of some code research,
08:15:59 some product research, that with of the investment of a
08:16:02 concrete podium that would go up an additional story, and
08:16:07 obtain -- and construct 89 additional units.
08:16:10 And that's why we are in front of you today.
08:16:13 If we are permitted to construct those 89 additional units,
08:16:17 it would result in approximately 365 dwelling units net
08:16:21 increase for the entire 48 acres.
08:16:26 Even with the additional 89 units, and that's a net increase
08:16:31 of 365, we are still 100 dwelling units less than what the
08:16:34 comp plan allows under the R-35 comp plan category.
08:16:40 That's significant, that even though we are proposing an
08:16:43 additional 89 units, we are not proposing to max out the
08:16:46 development on the site.
08:16:48 As I mentioned earlier, most of the site is going to remain
08:16:53 the same.
08:16:53 So this northern 10 acres that is going to be developed.
08:16:59 The rest of it will remain with the existing units, and the
08:17:05 hearing we substantially renovated those units.
08:17:08 This eleven acres of environmentally sensitive areas and
08:17:11 green space is going to remain exactly as is.
08:17:14 And it's in an undisturbed state right now.
08:17:18 As you heard from staff, we have the city staff report.
08:17:22 We had the Planning Commission support.
08:17:24 And that's because we meet all existing code.
08:17:28 Unfortunately, the neighborhood association, the Gandy Sun
08:17:33 Bay South Civic Association, advised us this week that they
08:17:36 couldn't support our request for these 89 additional units.
08:17:40 And that's mostly due to the traffic that they experience
08:17:45 along Westshore Boulevard, particularly the intersection of
08:17:48 Gandy and Westshore.
08:17:51 That's because the Gandy Westshore intersection has not been
08:17:55 improved like some of the other intersections at Gandy and
08:18:00 Manhattan where they have dual left turn lanes.
08:18:02 And you may recall last spring the neighborhood association
08:18:06 supported our request for the 276 additional units.
08:18:10 In fact, I stood with Al Steenson and advocated the
08:18:17 neighborhood association request to ask the city to allocate
08:18:21 impact fee and mitigation money towards that intersection
08:18:25 improvement in hopes of that we could accelerate it.
08:18:28 I think, Mrs. Capin, you made the motion that the staff come
08:18:31 back and report whether or not that would be appropriate.
08:18:35 Unfortunately, when they came back, they said that the only
08:18:38 thing that would really accelerate that intersection
08:18:42 improvement would be the elevated Gandy roadway project.
08:18:47 That's slated to begin in 2018.
08:18:53 It's not in my client's best interest for that intersection
08:18:57 to not be improved either, and they don't like sitting in
08:19:03 traffic nor do the resident of the Civic Association.
08:19:06 We are Do doing all required by code for these additional 89
08:19:09 unit.
08:19:10 We are in transportation concurrency exception area so we
08:19:13 don't have to meet concurrency.
08:19:15 The only thing we have to do is pay our proportionate share
08:19:18 of the cost of mitigating those intersections, building
08:19:23 those intersection improvement, and we are doing that.
08:19:25 Not only are we paying our mitigation for our proposed 1100
08:19:30 some odd units but we are actually paying in excess.
08:19:34 We are paying for 1200 -- 1253 units which is what we had
08:19:39 initially proposed when we first filed the application well
08:19:41 over a year ago.
08:19:43 But we are still willing to pay in excess of what our
08:19:45 mitigation costs are.
08:19:47 Furthermore, and this is important, the intersection is
08:19:50 going to remain at the same level of service, with or
08:19:54 without our project.
08:19:55 With or without the additional 89 units.
08:20:00 We have our traffic engineer, Christopher hat an, with
08:20:05 Kimley-Horn here with us this evening, if you have any
08:20:08 questions of him regarding the intersection improvements,
08:20:10 and about our project traffic.
08:20:12 But the bottom line is that we meet all city code.
08:20:16 We are paying more than what we are required to pay for
08:20:19 transportation mitigation, and we have a full staff report.
08:20:23 With that we would ask for your support as well for these
08:20:26 additional 89 units.
08:20:27 I'm available for any questions.
08:20:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any --
08:20:34 >>HARRY COHEN: Any questions from council at this time?
08:20:39 Is there anyone from the public that would like to address
08:20:41 us on this item?
08:20:44 >> Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
08:20:56 My name is OTIY Gomes Jr. with the Gandy Civic Association.
08:21:03 I don't have all of the technical data on this, but I do
08:21:07 live in that area, and I have noticed that within the last
08:21:12 few years, everybody seems to be want to go to South Tampa.
08:21:18 Somebody once said if you build it, they'll come.
08:21:21 It's probably not the exact way it was said.
08:21:24 But if somebody has that idea that if you build a bunch of
08:21:28 apartments down there in South Tampa it's going to be okay.
08:21:32 Not just considering the traffic in the area, which we know
08:21:36 it's the same all over town, but there are other things to
08:21:39 be considered.
08:21:40 When you are talking about stacking people on top of each
08:21:44 other.
08:21:45 It started out in South Tampa as a single-home area.
08:21:50 From there, we had people who started renting their homes.
08:21:55 From there, somebody got the idea, let me build a little
08:21:59 apartment with one story, one or two stories.
08:22:03 From there, they built three stories.
08:22:08 And now we are talking about in an overcrowded area putting
08:22:13 six stories there.
08:22:14 So we are start stacking people on top of each other.
08:22:18 It's not just the traffic but all of the things that we have
08:22:22 to share with each other, is going to be crowded out.
08:22:28 You know, water, the sewage.
08:22:37 We have problems now with sewage.
08:22:38 The police.
08:22:40 Every time you build one of these apartments down in the
08:22:43 area, it creates crime.
08:22:46 Well, it doesn't really create crime, but you bring in
08:22:49 people with where it's overcrowded and some people become
08:22:57 criminals.
08:22:58 So what I am asking you is please consider this before you
08:23:01 just do it because it's impacting us.
08:23:04 A lot of things that impact us like that roadway somebody is
08:23:07 putting down there.
08:23:09 So please consider that.
08:23:13 Since you are really crowding us in now.
08:23:15 Thank you.
08:23:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone else in the public like to speak at
08:23:19 this time on number 9?
08:23:21 >> Move to close.
08:23:25 >>HARRY COHEN: Rebuttal.
08:23:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: She does have a chance for rebuttal.
08:23:30 Are there any questions to Mrs. Grimes?
08:23:32 Mrs. Grimes, I just have one question, if I could.
08:23:35 I apologize.
08:23:36 I stepped out for a moment.
08:23:38 You may have already answered this question.
08:23:39 So I apologize if you have already.
08:23:42 We just rezoned this.
08:23:44 I think you said in April?
08:23:46 >> It was actually May.
08:23:47 Thank you.
08:23:48 Yes.
08:23:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And why did T change in plan?
08:23:52 What was the reasoning behind it?
08:23:55 >>GINA GRIMES: Honest honestly, when we first submitted it
08:23:58 with the April application, that we originally submitted, we
08:24:01 submitted it for seven stories, and we came down.
08:24:05 And at that time it was a cost factor and a code factor.
08:24:10 We came down from seven to five and we brought it to you at
08:24:14 five stories.
08:24:15 Almost within a month after it was approved for five stories
08:24:20 it was determined based on the code research and some of the
08:24:23 product research dealing with fire retardant wood and the
08:24:26 cost of the cone create that if we don't -- a build a
08:24:32 concrete podium similar to the one being built on south --
08:24:36 not Howard, I think South MacDill, at Howard and Morrison,
08:24:47 there was a concrete podium built, you can see from the
08:24:50 Crosstown, and it had wooden construction on top.
08:24:53 That same type of construction is what we subsequently
08:24:57 determined after our rezoning was approved it could be done
08:25:00 on this site.
08:25:00 And so that's why we are back in front of you today asking
08:25:03 for six stories, even though we originally started at seven,
08:25:07 went down to five, now we are asking for six.
08:25:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I just find it fascinating that somebody
08:25:12 would spend as much time and money to get this before
08:25:14 council, get it rezoned, come back, and ask for another
08:25:18 rezoning.
08:25:19 Because you know how hard these things are.
08:25:21 And every time I see a developer do something like that I
08:25:25 always think, are developers really, really good at this
08:25:28 stuff or do they make a lot of mistakes or what?
08:25:31 Anyway, I was just curious.
08:25:33 It just seems weird that you would come back for another
08:25:37 floor.
08:25:38 >>GINA GRIMES: If H we known about three weeks earlier we
08:25:41 would have asked to postpone the second reading and amend it
08:25:43 and try to come back.
08:25:44 >> Maybe some advice to your client which is slow down, you
08:25:48 know, figure it out, come back.
08:25:51 Any questions for council?
08:25:52 Anything else?
08:25:54 I have a motion to close from Mr. Maniscalco, second from
08:25:58 Mr. Cohen.
08:25:59 All in favor of that motion?
08:26:01 Any opposed?
08:26:02 Mr. Maniscalco, will you kindly take item number 9?
08:26:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I have an ordinance being presented for
08:26:09 first reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning property
08:26:12 in the general vicinity of 637-9071 South Westshore
08:26:15 Boulevard in the city of Tampa, Florida and more
08:26:18 particularly described in section 1 from zoning district
08:26:20 classifications PD planned development, residential,
08:26:23 multifamily, to PD, planned development, residential,
08:26:26 multifamily, providing an effective date.
08:26:27 >> Second.
08:26:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Maniscalco, a second from Mr.
08:26:32 Cohen.
08:26:32 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
08:26:35 Any opposed?
08:26:36 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried unanimously.
08:26:38 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
08:26:41 9:30 a.m.
08:26:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:26:43 Item number 10.
08:26:44 Before you go, Mrs. Feeley, Mr. Cohen would like the floor.
08:26:47 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you.
08:26:49 Some of you may have noticed that my father is in the
08:26:51 audience tonight.
08:26:52 He's here because he is a board member of the Bayshore
08:26:56 Regency condominium which is right next door to this
08:26:59 development.
08:26:59 So I won't be participating on this item.
08:27:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: And Mr. Cohen, you have file the form.
08:27:10 Thank you.
08:27:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
08:27:13 Staff?
08:27:13 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
08:27:17 Item number 10 on your agenda tonight is REZ 16-73 located
08:27:23 at 3401, 3409 Bayshore Boulevard.
08:27:27 The request before you tonight is from an RM 50 residential
08:27:31 multifamily to PD, planned development, residential,
08:27:35 multifamily, and sale center.
08:27:38 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff.
08:27:49 This is the new South Tampa planning district.
08:27:52 It is residential 83.
08:27:58 Within the level C evacuation zone.
08:28:01 I have an aerial right here.
08:28:05 This is Bayshore Boulevard.
08:28:08 The Selmon expressway.
08:28:09 This is South MacDill Avenue.
08:28:13 Here is the subject site.
08:28:18 This is the future land use.
08:28:20 This is the location of a school.
08:28:22 It's the blue indicates the public.
08:28:24 This is residential 35.
08:28:26 And then residential 83 which is the subject site.
08:28:30 The orange is residential 10.
08:28:32 Bayshore Boulevard is the signature corridor with numerous
08:28:36 high-rises located in the area.
08:28:39 The comprehensive plan does continue to residential
08:28:45 properties along this area are compact higher residential
08:28:49 density development, which is encouraged, and residential
08:28:54 use categories.
08:28:55 We did find this consistent and compatible with the zoning
08:28:58 area and consistent with the comprehensive plan.
08:29:00 I'm available for any questions.
08:29:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
08:29:08 The request before you tonight from RM 50 residential
08:29:12 multifamily to PD planned development residential
08:29:14 multifamily sale center -- and I am going to explain a
08:29:18 little about that momentarily.
08:29:19 The request before you tonight has five waivers on my staff
08:29:22 report.
08:29:23 However, per discussion with the applicant, engineer this
08:29:27 morning, that would be four, because they are going to ask
08:29:32 that the second waiver be removed.
08:29:33 The first is to reduce the required loading berth from three
08:29:38 to zero.
08:29:38 The second is reduce the required vehicle use area green
08:29:41 space from 20% to 18%.
08:29:44 They weren't sure on a certain section whether or not they
08:29:48 could include it in that.
08:29:49 And we can in fact include it.
08:29:50 It is adjacent to the VUA.
08:29:52 So they will be able to meet the 20% vehicle use area green
08:29:56 space.
08:29:58 The third is to reduce the required 8-foot right-of-way
08:30:01 buffer along Carter from 8 to 5, and Julia street from 8 to
08:30:07 3 with payment in lieu at the time of permitting.
08:30:09 The fourth is to allow removal of a 34-inch nonhazardous
08:30:14 inch grand oak tree.
08:30:15 The last is to reduce the required tree retention from 50%
08:30:18 to 31% for the non-wooded lot.
08:30:23 Let me go ahead and show you the site.
08:30:25 And then I will go ahead and go through the rest of my
08:30:32 presentation.
08:30:34 Jennifer did mention this is the Bayshore scenic corridor.
08:30:39 I actually came before you in 2006 to designate Bayshore as
08:30:43 a scenic corridor and was able to find some of the articles
08:30:48 in my history when we presented that information to you in
08:30:53 preserving the unique character of Bayshore.
08:31:07 The subject site is here in yellow.
08:31:10 Julia to the north.
08:31:12 Bayshore Boulevard to the east.
08:31:14 Carter street, which dead-ends.
08:31:16 And if you may recall, council just a month or too two ago,
08:31:20 I was before you on two rezoning applications on Julia.
08:31:23 One exactly right in this location.
08:31:26 And that should show on the atlas sheet.
08:31:31 It does not yet, but that was a split zoning RM-24 and
08:31:36 RS-60, and we shifted that small line there to allow for
08:31:41 that to be developed as two lots.
08:31:44 I do have some pictures.
08:31:46 They have demoed that as well.
08:31:48 The site, that RS-60 actually goes to that little cut-out
08:31:54 right there.
08:31:54 The property we are talking about tonight is RM 50.
08:31:58 What makes this property somewhat unique is under Euclidean
08:32:02 zoning district, it has two fronts, a front on Carter and a
08:32:06 front on Bayshore, a corner on Julia, and a side on the
08:32:10 south property line per zoning definition.
08:32:13 In the RM 50 district it requires that once you get to a
08:32:16 certain height you start stepping that building back.
08:32:21 It wouldn't be so bad if there was a rear yard to it, but
08:32:24 there's not.
08:32:25 So this property would actually have to step on all sides
08:32:28 limiting the buildable facility envelope quite extensively
08:32:33 as the site goes up.
08:32:34 In addition, there's a large grand tree which I am sure you
08:32:38 are all familiar with, the colonnade restaurant, before as
08:32:42 you pull in, in that front driveway area, the cul-de-sac
08:32:46 area, kind of roundabout drive that tree is being preserved
08:32:49 in the application before you tonight.
08:32:50 So that shifted the entire building to more of the south
08:32:55 side of the property.
08:32:59 I will go ahead and show you some pictures of the site.
08:33:05 This is from Bayshore.
08:33:11 The northern portion approaching Carter.
08:33:16 This is the tree that I just referred to.
08:33:18 That will be preserved.
08:33:20 That is not the tree that is being requested for removal in
08:33:23 the waivers.
08:33:25 There is also an off-site grand tree on the site east corner
08:33:31 of the site that is being retained as well.
08:33:35 Or not being adversely impacted and being preserved.
08:33:41 This is the north side of Julia directly across the street
08:33:46 headed toward Bayshore.
08:33:47 This is that back piece that was just rezoned.
08:33:51 From Carter.
08:33:53 This is Carter and Julia.
08:33:55 The northwest corner.
08:33:58 This is immediately north of the property as well before you
08:34:03 approach the single-family attached.
08:34:05 And the Bayshore Regency which.
08:34:11 To the south.
08:34:16 I did have -- sorry.
08:34:32 This also along Carter.
08:34:36 This is Carter where it dead-ends.
08:34:40 There is single-family attached.
08:34:42 And I do have pictures of that as well.
08:34:49 There is the piece on Julia that was demoed.
08:34:53 Sorry, these are somewhat out of order.
08:34:57 This is at the end of Carter onto the residential piece.
08:35:17 It's this PD back here that kind of is in between the two RM
08:35:22 50 pieces.
08:35:44 The request before you tonight is for the 1.65-acre property
08:35:48 that's located at the southwest corner of Julia and Bayshore
08:35:50 Boulevard.
08:35:52 It seeks to construct a 24 story, 289-foot residential
08:35:57 multifamily tower with 75 dwelling units.
08:36:00 The building is designed with two levels of parking, amenity
08:36:05 area with one dwelling unit and two guest quarters on the
08:36:08 third floor and 271 levels of residential above.
08:36:11 The site configuration includes the multi-story residential
08:36:15 high-rise building with orientation to Bayshore Boulevard.
08:36:18 Vehicular access the proposed on Julia and Carter.
08:36:22 The site contains a large 48-inch grand oak that will be
08:36:25 preserved in its current location and the arrival court for
08:36:28 the development has been designed around this natural
08:36:31 feature.
08:36:32 The required loading and service area has been located at
08:36:34 the southwest corner of the property along Carter.
08:36:38 There's a small covered parking area, 11 spaces being
08:36:41 proposed at the northwest corner of the property.
08:36:45 In addition to the residential high-rise, the application
08:36:47 seeks approval of a sales center as the principal use of the
08:36:51 property.
08:36:52 This center would be directly related to the approved
08:36:54 building on the property and would be allowed for a period
08:36:58 two of years from the date of issuance of the permit for the
08:37:00 center, scheduled for removal within 90 days of the issuance
08:37:04 of the building permit for the project.
08:37:07 Code currently allows for the placement of a sales center
08:37:12 with at the city receives a bona fide application.
08:37:16 The subject application is requesting the permitting sales
08:37:18 center, the separate structure and allowable use, building
08:37:23 elevations and a conceptual layout have been provided with
08:37:28 landscaping as part of the subject application.
08:37:35 In my report it actually refers to adding these two exhibits
08:37:40 to the site plan to allow.
08:37:47 And in order to control the location as design of the use.
08:37:56 The proposed PD setbacks are as follows.
08:37:59 North Julia street.
08:38:00 25 feet.
08:38:01 East Bayshore Boulevard.
08:38:03 25 feet.
08:38:04 West Carter street.
08:38:05 25 feet.
08:38:07 And south 7 feet.
08:38:09 The covered parking area, the following setbacks are
08:38:12 proposed.
08:38:12 North 8 foot, east 25-foot, west 5-foot and south 7-foot.
08:38:19 The maximum building height is proposed at 289 feet.
08:38:22 The property is surrounded by residential development on the
08:38:26 north, west, and south.
08:38:28 And it is located on Bayshore Boulevard which is identified
08:38:32 in the City of Tampa comprehensive plan as scenic corridor.
08:38:38 It has been a while, I think, the crescent were the last two
08:38:44 applications along Bayshore that I brought to you.
08:38:47 One of the things that's interesting that we used for the
08:38:50 scenic corridor, as well as -- and I did find this, to give
08:38:55 you point of reference, the Bayshore Regency is at 248.
08:39:00 The Alagon is at 273.
08:39:04 And I do have a list of several other properties along --
08:39:09 for skyscrapers.com, when we did the scenic corridor, it
08:39:11 only gives the buildings a 250 feet or higher.
08:39:15 So Canterbury tower which is also located along this segment
08:39:20 is not above 250 feet.
08:39:29 In relation to staff's analysis, staff did provide you with
08:39:33 a PD analysis on pages 4, 5 -- 4 and 5 of your report.
08:39:40 There were some modifications that were required in between
08:39:43 first and second reading.
08:39:46 If approved this evening, the first is that the accessory
08:39:49 structure setback, to correspond to the covered parking, and
08:39:52 not be able to be placed any further east than the western
08:39:55 facade of the principal building.
08:39:58 The second was to incorporate the pieces that I showed you
08:40:01 related to the sales center including the building
08:40:03 elevations and the site layout and landscape concept plan
08:40:07 and to revise general note number 11 to refer to these
08:40:10 exhibits as the governing documents for the sales center.
08:40:14 I also needed them to add a note that the final building
08:40:17 height subject to review and permit by the Hillsborough
08:40:19 County aviation authority must be submitted to the city at
08:40:23 the time of building permit application.
08:40:27 From stormwater there was a requirement modifying note
08:40:30 number 4 to include the following at the end of the proposed
08:40:32 notation, shall stay in an underground vault.
08:40:36 And in relation to natural resources, they did have two
08:40:40 modifications that the tree table needed to be corrected.
08:40:45 The tree debit for trees over 30 inches should reflect 56
08:40:49 inches as opposed to 112 and that the landscape data
08:40:53 information should be revised to reflect the information in
08:40:56 regard to the required tree planting.
08:40:59 Table reflects 139 required and only 116 proposed.
08:41:06 Based on analysis of the area and staff findings on 4 and 5,
08:41:11 we did find the request consistent if the modifications are
08:41:15 made in between first and second reading.
08:41:17 And we are available for any questions.
08:41:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:41:20 Any questions from council?
08:41:22 Petitioner?
08:41:36 >>TRUETT GARDNER: 400 north Ashley drive here on behalf of
08:41:40 the development company by Dr. Gaston, and my final is
08:41:46 president of the development company and he's here and Rick
08:41:50 Glovers is here and he will be speaking tonight.
08:41:53 In addition we have our design team and our experts.
08:41:56 As a lifetime resident of Tampa, it's with a great sense of
08:41:59 pride and humility to be able to bring this project before
08:42:02 you.
08:42:03 This project pose as unique challenge in that we were
08:42:06 replacing the revered colonnade restaurant, and we have
08:42:12 taken that challenge seriously, and think you will be
08:42:16 impressed with what we are going to show you tonight.
08:42:18 From the start, we have engaged our neighbors, we have had
08:42:21 numerous meetings with our neighbors, associations, numerous
08:42:25 phone calls, and the Bayshore Regency association which is
08:42:30 the high-rise immediately to the south of us.
08:42:33 I'm honored to say that the president of the association Bob
08:42:36 Crowder was nice enough to drive all the way from North
08:42:39 Carolina to the yesterday to be here for the sole reason of
08:42:45 speaking for this project and I thank him in advance for his
08:42:50 doing that.
08:42:50 We also have a letter of support from the Bayshore trace.
08:42:58 Bayshore trace is the condominium development to the north
08:43:03 of us, and this letter expresses his support as well as the
08:43:08 board who couldn't be here tonight but asked that we review
08:43:12 this letter.
08:43:13 Finally, I want to thank staff for all their effort and
08:43:16 time.
08:43:17 They realize the importance of this site.
08:43:19 There are a lot of challenges given to the oak tree.
08:43:22 Our arborists worked hand in hand with the city's arborist,
08:43:26 to come up with a solution, and we thank them for their
08:43:29 time.
08:43:30 Further, staff report, we couldn't be prouder for a project
08:43:37 of this scale to have all findings of consistency from every
08:43:39 department.
08:43:40 It's a thrill to us and something that we worked hard to
08:43:42 achieve.
08:43:43 And I just want to go through a few key points of really the
08:43:47 three things that we heard from the beginning of this
08:43:49 project, and I thought it would be germane to go over those
08:43:54 tonight.
08:43:56 First this is one of the last remaining parcels on Bayshore
08:43:59 with the R-3 comp plan designation, the high-rise
08:44:03 designation.
08:44:04 I think it's only this site and one other.
08:44:07 But our charge was to develop a development with the
08:44:10 greatest quality.
08:44:12 And thought it would be good to show you -- this shows two
08:44:21 things.
08:44:22 One, as Abbye stated, we were requesting 57 units.
08:44:28 Toned current RM zoning category we are allowed 82.
08:44:31 So we are actually doing less than what zoning a louse.
08:44:34 Then when you factor in R 83 which as you know is what you
08:44:39 request up to, we could request up to 136.
08:44:41 We are doing 75.
08:44:43 So we are only requesting 505th 5% of what's allowed
08:44:46 under the R-83 in an effort to bring a high quality iconic
08:44:51 building to Tampa.
08:44:53 Second was an effort to be sensitive to the views of our
08:44:58 neighbors, as well as to give deference to Bayshore
08:45:02 corridor.
08:45:03 And on that, what we have done is, Abbye pointed out that
08:45:10 the front setback is 25 feet added to the parking deck.
08:45:15 We have hidden that so really you can only see one level
08:45:19 which is this architectural feature.
08:45:20 But the face of the tower is actually set back 70 feet from
08:45:24 the property line.
08:45:25 So that pull it is building way back, which, one, preserve
08:45:31 it is views of the Bayshore Regency but then the second
08:45:34 consideration is you don't want buildings lurking over
08:45:37 Bayshore and casting a shadow. So pulling that back gave
08:45:40 that deference to Bayshore.
08:45:42 Then third, last but not least, is this right here.
08:45:49 It's one of those where it couldn't be a prettier tree, a
08:45:54 healthier tree, but unfortunately, if you could pick a spot
08:45:58 that would be the worth spot for a development, that would
08:46:01 probably be it.
08:46:02 But with the Arbor efforts, the design team, and you can see
08:46:07 the building is designed around that tree.
08:46:10 And just agreed that it's going to greet everybody when they
08:46:15 come to this development.
08:46:16 And with that, I believe that's it.
08:46:18 I did want to turn in a letter to Mr. Suarez earlier.
08:46:25 We have been in conversations with Bayshore, one concern
08:46:30 which would be air compressors on the south side of the
08:46:33 building and we worked a compromise solution there where we
08:46:36 have committed to putting a chilled air cooler on the roof
08:46:39 of the building.
08:46:41 And I wanted to introduce that into the record.
08:46:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Gardner, are you done with your
08:46:53 presentation?
08:46:54 >> I think Rick Glover and Jay.
08:46:59 >> My name is Lint Glover, and I live in Atlanta.
08:47:06 I am president of the development company.
08:47:09 First time I came down to Tampa was in the 60s.
08:47:12 And I thought this was really a neat place.
08:47:15 But we didn't have an office here or anything like that.
08:47:17 But in '83, our construction side opened an office here, and
08:47:24 ever since then I have wanted to have a development project
08:47:29 here.
08:47:30 And when our youngest daughter married Truett, that made me
08:47:35 want a development project a little more.
08:47:38 And then when they had three grandchildren, it was -- I knew
08:47:43 we had to have a development project that we could be proud
08:47:45 of here in Tampa.
08:47:46 And I think if we are able to do what is planned here, it
08:47:51 will be one that the grandchildren here will be happy with
08:47:55 their Georgia granddaddy being involved.
08:48:01 Back to the cook development company, a little over 50 years
08:48:05 old, we are what we call a facilitating developer.
08:48:09 We are always partnering with somebody.
08:48:11 For example, we were involved in Skyhouse.
08:48:16 In fact the Skyhouse Channelside partnered with Jim bridges.
08:48:22 We have done 17 Skyhouses with him.
08:48:24 But what we do is we try to pick a best in class apartment,
08:48:30 and we think we have here a luxury condominium.
08:48:34 The one thing that we didn't want to do is to come down here
08:48:38 and get no fight.
08:48:39 And so when we actually met with of them, we said we needed
08:48:46 to talk to neighbors.
08:48:47 We did talk to neighbors and we have had meetings with the
08:48:49 Bayshore league folks and other folks.
08:48:52 I think we have addressed their concerns.
08:48:54 We certainly tried to.
08:48:56 And so we are here today and would ask that you look on our
08:49:01 project favorably.
08:49:04 Jay Solomon with century development group, who is the best
08:49:08 in class partner, knows all the details and everything like
08:49:11 that.
08:49:12 I'm just sort of the guy that guess up and says a few words
08:49:15 and sits down, so that's what I will do.
08:49:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And now you can expense that trip to see
08:49:20 your grandchildren.
08:49:21 (Laughter)
08:49:22 >> Thank you.
08:49:30 Good evening, council.
08:49:33 I'm Jay talman, president of ascension development group,
08:49:40 KESTRAL park Lane in Sarasota, a nearby suburb of Tampa.
08:49:48 It's our pleasure this evening to be able to present shores
08:49:57 of Tampa to you, and we are honored to have been given the
08:50:01 opportunity by the whiteside family to purchase this
08:50:04 beautiful site, the colonnade restaurant was of course a
08:50:08 fixture in the city for decades.
08:50:11 We are thrilled to be able to redevelop this site into a
08:50:15 legacy project for the community.
08:50:21 We have recently named the shore club Tampa project, and you
08:50:26 will see this brand developed further in the coming months
08:50:30 as our marketing campaign ramps up and we approach sales
08:50:37 which we anticipate will be early next year.
08:50:41 The building has been designed by Paul Jones of Tampa and
08:50:45 represents the latest in luxury condominium design.
08:50:53 We are currently planning up to 75 units, but that would
08:50:58 include two guest suites, and, of course, as you heard, the
08:51:06 building has been largely designed around the heritage oak
08:51:12 tree.
08:51:13 Frankly, we met with the design team very early on in the
08:51:17 planning of this project, and what may have initially looked
08:51:22 like with the developers of this property, we took a
08:51:28 different attitude about it and we said, let's embrace this
08:51:31 tree, and, in fact, the building literally does that.
08:51:35 And so we are very much looking forward to the development
08:51:39 of this property, and taking this tact.
08:51:46 However, this doctor create challenges in laying out the
08:51:49 building on the site.
08:51:51 We were also very sensitive to making sure that we didn't
08:51:56 obstruct views from the adjacent Bayshore Regency building.
08:52:02 So it's really with the credit of our design team that they
08:52:07 were able to come up with a design that creatively worked
08:52:13 through those challenges.
08:52:14 This building has been designed to where every resident is
08:52:19 oriented towards the north looking up Bayshore Boulevard,
08:52:23 looking over Tampa Bay, and towards Tampa.
08:52:28 Magnificent view.
08:52:29 And I want to put the site plan here for a moment.
08:52:42 Okay, great.
08:52:43 Thank you.
08:52:48 On the site, as you can see, particularly from the site plan
08:52:52 view, you can see how the building really articulates around
08:52:55 the oak tree.
08:52:57 The building includes a two-story podium structure that
08:53:02 fully encloses the majority of the parking spaces on the
08:53:07 site.
08:53:08 And then the top of the podium has extensively landscaped
08:53:14 amenities, and the club facilities for the building will be
08:53:18 on the third level as well.
08:53:22 And as you have heard, we spent quite a bit of time meeting
08:53:27 with neighbors.
08:53:29 We got a lot of input on the project.
08:53:31 We think it's a better project as from those discussions and
08:53:38 we made some design adjustments with that input.
08:53:43 So we are very much looking forward to getting underway with
08:53:49 this project, and we do see this as a legacy project for the
08:53:53 community.
08:53:54 Thank you.
08:53:57 I stand for any questions.
08:53:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions by council at this time of the
08:54:02 petitioner?
08:54:03 Okay.
08:54:08 [Off microphone.]
08:54:16 >>TRUETT GARDNER: Nothing else right now.
08:54:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Item number 10.
08:54:22 Mrs. Grimes.
08:54:27 >>GINA GRIMES: Law firm of Hill, Ward, Henderson, 101 East
08:54:29 Kennedy Boulevard.
08:54:30 And it's my absolute privilege to be in front of you tonight
08:54:34 representing former mayor Sandy Freeman and her husband Mike
08:54:39 who own a unit at the Regency immediately adjacent tote
08:54:45 subject site.
08:54:45 I want to begin by saying that mayor Freedman and her
08:54:49 husband Mike are not as all opposed to this project.
08:54:51 We have one very modest request.
08:54:53 And ordinarily these kind of requests would be handled
08:55:00 between lawyer and lawyer and I did attempt to do that.
08:55:02 I presented some changes to the language, to the condition
08:55:06 that Mr. Gardner presented to you.
08:55:09 I presented it to him, asked him to make those changes.
08:55:13 He told me that he was not at liberty to make any changes,
08:55:16 and that I would have to present this change to you myself.
08:55:20 I think that's interesting in light of the fact they talked
08:55:23 about all the neighborhood outreach and cooperation and so
08:55:25 forth that they received.
08:55:26 But anyway, nonetheless, our request is a modest one.
08:55:30 And that has to do with the way the language was worded
08:55:33 related to the condition that they are placing on the site
08:55:36 plan relative to the air conditioning units.
08:55:41 Initially, they had proposed to place those units on the
08:55:44 south side of the building which would have been immediately
08:55:47 adjacent to Bayshore Regency.
08:55:50 As a result of meetings they had with the condo board, they
08:55:52 agreed to a condition, and the way it's worded, we have a
08:55:57 minor change that includes changing the word "will" to
08:56:01 "shall" and more importantly in the sentence where they say
08:56:04 that they commit to installing HVAC equipment on the roof,
08:56:10 we would prefer -- we would request that they state that
08:56:14 they shall install -- I think this language as presented to
08:56:18 you by Mr. Gardner did announce that it's not the right way
08:56:22 to do it.
08:56:23 The right way is to use the mandatory language of "shall"
08:56:26 and that's all we are asking for, is just that simple
08:56:29 change.
08:56:30 And again, ordinarily, we wouldn't have to come before you
08:56:33 to ask for something this modest, but for whatever reason,
08:56:38 Mr. Gardner was not willing to accommodate this change.
08:56:41 So with that, I'm available for any questions.
08:56:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:56:48 Next, please.
08:56:48 >> 343435 Bayshore Boulevard, unit number 301.
08:56:58 And I am the president of our condo association.
08:57:01 And you heard the changes that regarding the air
08:57:05 conditioning units.
08:57:06 And the board voted to not object to the changes that they
08:57:11 have requested.
08:57:12 And appreciate the developers keeping us informed of what
08:57:20 they plan.
08:57:21 And we appreciate the opportunity of working with them.
08:57:25 Thank you.
08:57:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
08:57:28 Next.
08:57:32 >> Jerry Jordan, 3435 Bayshore Boulevard.
08:57:37 I also reside at the Bayshore Regency.
08:57:40 And I am a member of the Board of Directors.
08:57:44 And with the developers consulting with us and working with
08:57:50 us on this air conditioning issue, the only reason I am here
08:57:55 tonight is just to confirm as a matter of record that the
08:58:00 air conditioning systems are in fact going to be on the roof
08:58:03 and not on the south portion of the building where it would
08:58:10 be really right in our faces.
08:58:13 Regarding this additional little adjustment to the wording,
08:58:18 I am not an attorney, it's the first that I am hearing about
08:58:22 this change in wording.
08:58:24 It didn't seem that remarkable what's being requested.
08:58:30 All we are requesting is that the requirement that this
08:58:34 equipment be on the roof of the building be a part of the
08:58:37 PD, because it's not a code issue,is not a waiver issue,
08:58:43 it's separate and aside from that.
08:58:45 So that's my reason for being here and speaking.
08:58:51 As far as the precise wording, I will leave that to the
08:58:55 attorney.
08:58:56 But that air conditioning equipment needs to be on the roof
08:58:59 of this building, not on the south facia.
08:59:02 I just wanted to state that for the record.
08:59:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
08:59:06 Anyone else that would like to speak?
08:59:09 Will you come forward?
08:59:10 >> Hello.
08:59:16 My name is Joel Magdovitz, 3420 south Carter street, unit D
08:59:23 as in dog.
08:59:24 And I am on the south side of where this complex is going to
08:59:29 be built.
08:59:31 Conveniently, they left out our town home. Our
08:59:34 single-family town homes are on the south side.
08:59:38 In their presentation, they showed the high-rise
08:59:41 condominium, they showed the units across the street, and
08:59:45 they did not show ours which would be on the south side,
08:59:48 which are directly behind this unit.
08:59:52 There is a strip of town homes right there, single-family,
08:59:56 that is where I live.
08:59:57 I grew up in the area.
08:59:59 I went to the colonnade.
09:00:01 I'm from Tampa.
09:00:03 This directly affects us.
09:00:06 Mr. Babson's group here stated that he spoke to the
09:00:09 neighbors.
09:00:10 He did not speak to our group of town homes that are
09:00:13 directly connected to the property.
09:00:17 We have not heard from that group.
09:00:19 He has spoken to the high-rise next to us but he has not
09:00:22 spoken to us.
09:00:23 I'm here on behalf of many of my neighbors who are also in
09:00:27 the back as well.
09:00:29 They have the same concerns.
09:00:30 We tried to contact them without any phone calls returned.
09:00:37 I have three main things that I would like to bring to City
09:00:39 Council.
09:00:40 One is the traffic concerns that I see in the area.
09:00:43 Across the street, we have the school.
09:00:46 The Academy of Holy Names.
09:00:48 It's expanding.
09:00:49 They are having construction and construction and
09:00:52 construction.
09:00:53 Not only is that great for the school, but that brings more
09:00:56 children to that area, more traffic, more traffic.
09:00:59 Now you are looking to place a high-rise in that area,
09:01:03 additional traffic in the area.
09:01:06 On top of that, we live at a dead-end so if they are placing
09:01:12 their high-rise right next to the academy, all the academy
09:01:16 schoolchildren line up for picking up their children after
09:01:22 daycare come down our road.
09:01:23 Now you are placing a high-rise, 24 story high-rise with
09:01:28 people waiting to pick up their children, and a high-rise.
09:01:31 We are never getting home to that dead-end right behind the
09:01:34 building.
09:01:35 They are looking to place their entrance off of Julia, not
09:01:38 off of Bayshore.
09:01:39 If it's off of Bayshore, people can come in, off of
09:01:42 Bayshore.
09:01:42 If it comes off of Julia, the academy backs in, the entrance
09:01:46 backs in, we have one access in and out.
09:01:50 I'm requesting additional time on behalf of my neighbors.
09:01:54 I'm here.
09:01:55 Can I?
09:01:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, you have to have a speaker waiver
09:02:00 form.
09:02:00 >> The gentleman outside told me to come in and speak to
09:02:03 you.
09:02:03 He didn't give me much.
09:02:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You just spoke to a gentleman outside?
09:02:07 >> An officer sitting right there.
09:02:10 I asked to fill out a form for additional time.
09:02:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Stop for a second Mr. Shelby, is it all
09:02:16 right if we allow him to have a speaker waiver form at this
09:02:18 time to continue?
09:02:21 Because we usually do it prior to the person speaking.
09:02:25 Is there any problem with that?
09:02:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: No, council, it's at your discretion.
09:02:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Terrific.
09:02:31 Sir, if you could name, and Mr. Shelby, if you write down
09:02:33 the names of the people that going to be waiving their time
09:02:36 towards them, please do.
09:02:38 Sir?
09:02:38 >> I apologize, council.
09:02:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No, go ahead.
09:02:40 >> Stephani Pollet.
09:02:45 Mr. Tyler Hamilton.
09:02:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone else?
09:02:49 >> That's it.
09:02:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Stephani.
09:03:02 Any idea how to spell that?
09:03:03 >> [Off microphone.]
09:03:05 >> Get that?
09:03:07 >> And Hamilton.
09:03:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Two additional minutes to the time he has
09:03:15 already used.
09:03:16 >> Thank you, council.
09:03:18 This is the first time.
09:03:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No.
09:03:19 Don't waste your time talking.
09:03:22 >> The second concern that I have is there is a setback.
09:03:26 They are putting their building directly on top of where we
09:03:28 live.
09:03:29 They talk about 25-foot setbacks in all areas except for
09:03:33 where we are.
09:03:33 We are looking at small setbacks from where we are.
09:03:37 I am unclear as to if it's 5 or 7 feet.
09:03:40 But it is almost on top of where we live.
09:03:44 The third thing, the main concern is drainage.
09:03:48 In the City of Tampa we have drainage problems everywhere.
09:03:50 You are looking to put a high-rise directly on top of where
09:03:53 we live, a single-family home, and it's going to cause a big
09:03:59 problem as far as drainage.
09:04:01 Our street already drains coming down Carter street.
09:04:04 We already have standing water, and we already have issues.
09:04:08 You are now adding a high-rise, additional population,
09:04:11 additional people, additional drainage problems.
09:04:16 We have a concern there.
09:04:17 Basically, my concern, a lot of the issues that we have is
09:04:22 overpopulation in the area.
09:04:24 I'm all for the high-rise, but it's coming down right on top
09:04:27 of where we live.
09:04:28 It's not far distance away.
09:04:31 They talk about giving a view and talking to their neighbors
09:04:34 and things of that nature.
09:04:35 It looks like we are going to be looking into essentially
09:04:37 the building, the parking garage.
09:04:39 They said it's back off of Bayshore right into our backyard.
09:04:43 That's where our living area is.
09:04:45 Our living space is right where this building is going. So
09:04:48 they are putting it on top of us, and I would request either
09:04:52 some sort of, you know, issue, because where the building is
09:04:58 set is not -- it's just not conducive to our living
09:05:03 situation.
09:05:04 They discussed it with the other condominiums.
09:05:07 They haven't discussed it with us.
09:05:09 We request, you know, not to have this additional building
09:05:12 built right on top of our house.
09:05:14 The variance is not wide enough.
09:05:17 There we are.
09:05:17 (Bell sounds)
09:05:19 Thank you for your time.
09:05:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
09:05:21 Anyone else from the public like to speak?
09:05:22 Please come forward.
09:05:24 Don't need to raise your hand.
09:05:25 Come on up.
09:05:27 Please state your name.
09:05:29 >> My name is Doreen master, 3420 Carter street.
09:05:34 And I agree with him about the setbacks and everything.
09:05:42 We have a lot of problems.
09:05:44 One of them is they didn't come to us at all.
09:05:48 Nobody talked to us.
09:05:49 Nothing.
09:05:51 They did go to Bayshore, and that's how I found out because
09:05:57 they were going to build 144 units there.
09:06:00 And now they lowered it.
09:06:01 So are they going to raise it later?
09:06:03 I don't know.
09:06:08 They cut back.
09:06:11 So I have pictures of all the cars that line up all around
09:06:16 us.
09:06:18 We got Carter street is one road basically between
09:06:23 MacDill and Bayshore.
09:06:25 And academy takes up on MacDill and Bayshore.
09:06:33 And they line up on Julia, which it goes around, and you
09:06:40 can't get through.
09:06:41 I have actually been late to about eight doctors
09:06:44 appointments, okay, because I can't get out to get there in
09:06:48 time.
09:06:49 Even if I lose an hour time for it.
09:06:55 The pictures show the cars lined up on MacDill.
09:07:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ma'am, put it on there so we can see it.
09:07:04 There you go.
09:07:05 >> Okay, sorry.
09:07:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's fine.
09:07:07 >> Okay. This is a view of the Julia traffic.
09:07:10 That's backed up.
09:07:11 And they start early like around 2:30.
09:07:14 And they start lining up and sometimes they double park on
09:07:18 the city property, and private property.
09:07:22 So we had like one Lane that's coming and going.
09:07:25 And people that are on bicycles have had to get off the road
09:07:32 and, you know, that's just one view. This is another view.
09:07:37 This is north MacDill Avenue from the academy to Julia.
09:07:43 That's backed up.
09:07:48 It's pretty -- all of these are cars on a regular basis.
09:07:57 The problem is that we only have one exit.
09:08:00 One exit to our property.
09:08:03 And we can't get out when their cars are lined up.
09:08:06 So when they start building, and they have that entrance
09:08:11 going in on Julia, there's no way to move at all.
09:08:18 I mean, it's crazy.
09:08:21 But the cars are there.
09:08:25 We can't move.
09:08:26 The sewage system backs up as it is to that property.
09:08:33 And I'm just -- thank you for letting me speak.
09:08:36 (Bell sounds)
09:08:37 But I just wanted to say this is not fair.
09:08:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ma'am, can I ask you a quick question?
09:08:45 The pictures you are showing about the traffic, when does
09:08:48 that start?
09:08:49 Is it always like that for academy?
09:08:51 >> They are like that -- every year gets worse.
09:08:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay, that's not my question.
09:08:57 My question was, when did that traffic -- it seems like a
09:09:00 lot of traffic, there's a lot of construction going on.
09:09:03 Has that happened and gotten worse since the construction at
09:09:06 the Academy of Holy Names?
09:09:08 >> No.
09:09:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So it is exactly the same?
09:09:10 >> This is all the time.
09:09:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: How long have you lived there?
09:09:13 >> I have lived there 15, 18 years.
09:09:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So it's been like that since the moment you
09:09:18 moved in?
09:09:19 >> Oh, absolutely.
09:09:20 Except the summer.
09:09:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I just want to make sure that's the same no
09:09:23 matter what.
09:09:24 >> Oh, yeah, you know.
09:09:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right, thank you.
09:09:28 Appreciate it.
09:09:28 Next, please.
09:09:29 Before I go to you, sir, is there anyone else that's going
09:09:33 to speak?
09:09:33 Do me a favor.
09:09:34 Line up on either side.
09:09:36 Doesn't matter which one so that we know how many more folks
09:09:38 we have to go.
09:09:39 So if you want to speak on this particular item, line up if
09:09:42 you are able to do so, so we know what's coming up.
09:09:45 >> My name is John Donahoe. I'm the chief financial officer
09:09:50 of the Academy of Holy Names which is adjacent to the
09:09:53 property.
09:09:55 We have met with the developer, future builder of this, and
09:10:01 we are very, very confident in their efforts to help
09:10:04 minimize the flow of traffic at our drop-off and pick-up
09:10:09 hours.
09:10:10 And as you well know, we are doing construction ourselves.
09:10:14 We are not adding whatsoever.
09:10:20 We are just improving the learning facility.
09:10:23 We do not plan to increase any students or increase traffic
09:10:26 whatsoever.
09:10:28 And to further that, as you well know, an open communication
09:10:34 plan is very, very important.
09:10:37 And we are R we believe that the developer is going to have
09:10:40 a very comfortable and important communication plan that
09:10:46 will help all the neighbors as they GOP through the
09:10:49 construction process.
09:10:50 And we are here to support them.
09:10:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay, thank you.
09:10:54 Mrs. Montelione.
09:10:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I think it's ironic that you were the
09:10:59 next speaker.
09:11:00 But if I can make a friendly neighbor conversation request.
09:11:04 >> Sure.
09:11:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: It's a problem we have with a lot of
09:11:09 schools.
09:11:10 Could you just maybe extend an invitation to the neighbors
09:11:12 to talk about the traffic and the pickup and drop-off times
09:11:15 to see what maybe we can work out to help the neighbors?
09:11:21 It's not part of this rezoning.
09:11:22 I'm just making it as a friendly neighbor request.
09:11:25 >> We continue to do that.
09:11:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:11:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Next, please.
09:11:31 >> My name is Michael Kinnard, 3420 Carter street.
09:11:44 I have been there since 1989.
09:11:46 I have been through Gasparilla parades, booms day.
09:11:51 Some of you may remember booms day.
09:11:54 Some of you may not.
09:11:54 I have been there through runs.
09:11:57 You name it, I have seen it.
09:11:59 But I have never been so ill prepared as I feel tonight
09:12:03 after listening to these gentlemen speak, that they
09:12:07 consulted every neighbor, everywhere, and nobody came to us
09:12:13 in our two-story condominiums that are the closest to this
09:12:17 development of anybody.
09:12:20 They talk about drainage.
09:12:22 They talk about cars.
09:12:23 They talk about this.
09:12:25 And people have gotten up and said what great neighbors.
09:12:29 Once the building is up it's over.
09:12:30 I have watched City Council meetings for years.
09:12:32 I'm 64 years old.
09:12:34 As a matter of fact, I'll tell you something else.
09:12:37 In April I had a little heart situation.
09:12:39 Had to go to Tampa General, had open heart surgery.
09:12:42 Never dreamed that that would happen to me.
09:12:44 But those Cuban sandwiches, they caught up with me.
09:12:48 (Laughter)
09:12:48 Well, what happens?
09:12:51 If an emergency vehicle has to come into our area with those
09:12:55 cars are, which is a dead-end, and pick someone up, it is In
09:13:01 Extremis.
09:13:02 What happens?
09:13:03 How do you go to Tampa, memorial?
09:13:07 Where do you go?
09:13:09 But this is just something that appears to be a bad dream.
09:13:14 I am not against progress.
09:13:16 As a matter of fact, I think progress is great.
09:13:18 You want to build a library?
09:13:21 Raise my taxes.
09:13:21 You want to build a freeway?
09:13:23 Raise my taxes.
09:13:24 I grew up in Ybor City.
09:13:25 I remember what the Mango trees and the avocados that day.
09:13:30 Urban renewal.
09:13:31 You mentioned model cities, Mrs. Capin.
09:13:33 I lived through it.
09:13:34 Couldn't get any more mangoes from the trees.
09:13:37 Couldn't climb the avocado trees anymore.
09:13:39 So I know about repairs and I know about progress.
09:13:43 Progress affects everybody.
09:13:46 Socially.
09:13:47 The environment.
09:13:48 Where we live.
09:13:49 It's a great city.
09:13:50 I have enjoyed my tenure, my stay off of Bayshore.
09:13:55 I see people walk.
09:13:56 I see people run.
09:13:57 And I started walking.
09:13:59 A little late but I started.
09:14:01 But I am very concerned about this.
09:14:03 I know that they are going to put this building up.
09:14:06 I know.
09:14:06 And if they wanted to make it 24, 28, 30, whatever it's
09:14:11 going to be, I know that they will probably do it.
09:14:14 But let's think about the human element.
09:14:17 Let's think about the people that live there and not just
09:14:20 the academy.
09:14:21 The traffic is terrible.
09:14:22 You can't go anywhere anymore.
09:14:24 And I have seen it.
09:14:25 I have been there since 89.
09:14:27 Not 10, 12 years.
09:14:28 So I really appreciate you all considering making some
09:14:34 positive changes in this development for everyone, not just
09:14:39 the people that are consulting.
09:14:42 Now that they know we are here.
09:14:44 Thank you.
09:14:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anyone else in the public to speak at this
09:14:47 time on this item, item number 10?
09:14:50 I don't see anyone.
09:14:51 Mr. Gardner, rebuttal, please.
09:14:56 >>TRUETT GARDNER: North Ashley drive.
09:14:57 First with respect to Mrs. Grimes, I wasn't at liberty to
09:15:02 amend that language because it was agreed upon by the
09:15:05 developer and the condo association.
09:15:07 I have spoken to both Mr. Crowder tonight, and queens
09:15:12 dentally wasn't copied on the let theory she provided you so
09:15:15 I don't have that exact language.
09:15:17 But if pits what she was e-mailing me, I'll verify that, and
09:15:20 we are accepting of that modification.
09:15:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think the south and west elevation, in
09:15:26 addition to changing a "will" to "shall" on both of the
09:15:31 conditions that were put on there.
09:15:32 >> The operative sentence was the second which was system on
09:15:35 top which we say we will commit.
09:15:40 But if the language is what it says, Jay has got it.
09:15:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You are stipulating that you will stipulate
09:15:48 to that.
09:15:49 >> We'll make sure the letter says what it does, and if it
09:15:54 does, then yes.
09:15:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You are stipulating on the record that you
09:15:58 will put that as part of the PD.
09:16:01 >>TRUETT GARDNER: Yes.
09:16:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just want to clarify one thing.
09:16:08 And I understand the position Mr. Gardner is in.
09:16:10 I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
09:16:12 He's the attorney for the developer, the developer is his
09:16:15 final.
09:16:16 You have got problems.
09:16:18 (Laughter)
09:16:19 And I also admit to Mr. Canella that the mangoes and
09:16:26 avocados are gone because I took them.
09:16:29 (Laughter)
09:16:30 But on the serious side of things I think we are addressing
09:16:32 the last little paragraph that I read very curse orally and
09:16:37 I think the developer said we are not talking about, and
09:16:40 talking about the developer shall not, and the bottom where
09:16:42 it says instead the developer committees, it should be then
09:16:48 the developer shall, not committee.
09:16:52 The word economist is gone and it's shall, correct?
09:16:56 >> I'm looking at Mrs. Grimes' language here.
09:16:58 Commit to installing is stricken and in place is "shall
09:17:02 install."
09:17:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Okay.
09:17:05 And if I may, and I know good people came here with good
09:17:11 intention, and they talked about what the building is.
09:17:13 This is one of two properties that were left that had the 83
09:17:17 zoning classifications.
09:17:19 That means that way back, whenever it was, in the 70s or
09:17:23 80s or whatever these things went to the Planning
09:17:25 Commission, that these sites were chosen because of the
09:17:32 proximity to views and the proximity to different things,
09:17:36 that only these sites because you have a high-rise.
09:17:39 So I, or any council member here could, change that
09:17:45 classification.
09:17:45 We could maybe address the size of the building but that's
09:17:48 not my decision.
09:17:49 That's the developer's decision.
09:17:50 And also when you talked about drainage, and so forth, the
09:17:54 laws have changed and these things were built ever all over
09:17:58 the city.
09:17:59 It's my understanding -- and maybe some are looked at after
09:18:06 the past, I am not saying they are not, but all waters, all
09:18:09 runoff and all drainage in these buildings including a
09:18:12 residential home building built now in the City of Tampa --
09:18:15 and I will ask the legal department to attest to these
09:18:18 things, have to be retained on their property or have to
09:18:21 have adequate sewage.
09:18:22 Am I correct, legal department?
09:18:24 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
09:18:29 Yes, that is required.
09:18:38 Oh, sorry.
09:18:41 Yes, sir, that is correct.
09:18:43 And the staff is also indicating that is correct.
09:18:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:18:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Capin.
09:18:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's okay.
09:18:56 Councilman Miranda crated basically that paragraph, and --
09:19:02 did you can commit, then you shall.
09:19:05 Thank you.
09:19:07 >>TRUETT GARDNER: Out of respect to the other residents, I
09:19:10 wanted to just address a few things there.
09:19:12 First of all, we didn't hide from anybody or purposely leave
09:19:15 them out.
09:19:18 Notices were out, signs were posted.
09:19:20 Dee Barber who is with ADT told me he did have a
09:19:24 conversation on April 15th with Patricia Freeman who
09:19:27 lives there.
09:19:27 Unfortunately they don't have a formal association.
09:19:30 And so, no, we didn't call every single person on our notice
09:19:33 list.
09:19:35 But he talked to her and I wanted to make that clear.
09:19:38 There was an issue raised with traffic.
09:19:41 And we have didn't do a traffic study but we did commission
09:19:46 Randy Coen, and I will submit for the record, the change of
09:19:50 use from the colonnade to this development results in a 44
09:19:54 to 66% reduction in traffic.
09:20:03 And then, Mr. Miranda, the predesignation, as I mentioned
09:20:12 earlier it's RM 50 that would allow more than what we are
09:20:15 actually requesting so the argument on density and intensity
09:20:19 and we are overbuilding on this is incorrect because we
09:20:21 could fully be doing more as a matter of right understood
09:20:25 our current designation.
09:20:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Montelione, did you have questions?
09:20:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.
09:20:33 Thank you.
09:20:33 Mr. Gardner, I understand without a formal association,
09:20:41 there's no point person, but they are here now, and it seems
09:20:45 like there are certain concerns that they have.
09:20:51 So if between first and second reading, should this pass
09:20:54 tonight, would you please sit down with those folks, whoever
09:21:02 else would want to attend, maybe work out some of their
09:21:05 concerns?
09:21:06 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I would be happy to do that.
09:21:08 But I want to be totally candid in that as far as
09:21:13 design-related issues, our objective was, one, wanted their
09:21:22 views reserved and we need to honor that commitment.
09:21:24 Two, in deference to the Bayshore corridor, we pulled that T
09:21:28 front of the building back, which is forcing it to the
09:21:31 south.
09:21:33 But in all due respect to them, with Bayshore being a scenic
09:21:37 corridor, I think that's the proper technique.
09:21:39 And so I just want to be clear.
09:21:41 We wouldn't be able to commit to redesign of the building
09:21:45 and move it forward.
09:21:47 We have think we have given priorities where the priorities
09:21:50 are due and we have honored --
09:21:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I think sometimes the lack of
09:21:54 information causes questions.
09:21:56 >> Sure.
09:21:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And there are concerns.
09:21:59 So maybe there might not be any issues.
09:22:02 There might be issues, there might be tweaks, and something,
09:22:06 and there might not be.
09:22:08 But just sitting down and everything a conversation sometime
09:22:12 would be very helpful.
09:22:14 >>TRUETT GARDNER: Happy torch try to resolve anything but I
09:22:16 want to be clear on the design.
09:22:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And I know that during construction, it
09:22:22 is a difficult time and maybe walking through the plan of
09:22:25 how the staging and all of that is going to take place might
09:22:28 alleviate some concerns.
09:22:31 >>TRUETT GARDNER: And I had that to point out because that
09:22:33 was actually the meeting we had with the academy, and with
09:22:36 Bayshore trade, is that we all coordinate and work together
09:22:41 during construction, and we are more than happy to do the
09:22:43 same with them.
09:22:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm sure that would certainly help.
09:22:47 And the -- I would assume, as I am looking, there is going
09:22:53 to be a fee in lieu for the tree, or removal of the 34-inch
09:23:00 nonhazardous grand oak tree?
09:23:03 I was trying to read through here but it's a little bulky.
09:23:07 >>TRUETT GARDNER: We had that as an option.
09:23:08 We have our arborist if you would like to talk to him.
09:23:12 Basically he worked with the city's arborist.
09:23:14 There were four grand oaks.
09:23:16 We are keeping two.
09:23:17 One was hazardous.
09:23:18 And then there's this other one which is the 34-inch.
09:23:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's the one in the front?
09:23:23 >> The 34-inch is actually -- it would be right here.
09:23:45 The 34-inch tree here.
09:23:48 But given of that we are losing -- [Off microphone.]
09:23:59 And that tree wasn't in good health compared to this one so
09:24:04 that was the give and take.
09:24:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Trade-off.
09:24:09 Abbye, it seems like Abbye wants to say something.
09:24:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY: There is not payment for that.
09:24:14 You said there would be payment for that.
09:24:16 There is mitigation for that.
09:24:17 They will be required to plant trees, mitigate for that
09:24:20 removal.
09:24:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I mean, one of the other waivers
09:24:26 is to reduce the green space from 20 to 18.
09:24:29 >> We are taking that off.
09:24:34 I said that early in the presentation.
09:24:35 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Sorry.
09:24:37 >> Are so thereby will be mitigation there.
09:24:39 Won't be payment on those trees.
09:24:41 To mitigate for the removal.
09:24:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
09:24:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions by council?
09:24:47 Before you go, Mrs. Feeley, I think that we have one other
09:24:50 person that might want to speak, unless she's just over
09:24:53 there hanging out on the wall there.
09:24:56 I think maybe Sandy Freedman?
09:24:59 If you don't mind coming forward.
09:25:02 You haven't been sworn yet?
09:25:04 >> No.
09:25:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You have been sworn at a lot.
09:25:08 >> And I have done some swearing myself.
09:25:11 (Laughter).
09:25:11 (Oath administered by Clerk)
09:25:13 >> My name is Sandy Freedman.
09:25:17 I reside at 3435 Bayshore Boulevard number 700 Tampa 33629.
09:25:23 I am very supportive now that changes have been made.
09:25:28 But I do have to point out two things that I have found out
09:25:32 since I began looking at this project.
09:25:38 That for your consideration.
09:25:39 First of all, it's the traffic that everybody has talked
09:25:42 about, and it's not our first situation.
09:25:45 It is Tampa's problem.
09:25:47 I live there.
09:25:49 I drive there constantly.
09:25:50 It's not the academy.
09:25:53 MacDill is a two Lane street.
09:25:56 Particularly in the afternoon when there's pick-up time.
09:26:00 There will be a case at some point in time where an
09:26:04 emergency vehicle cannot get to Canterbury or some other
09:26:08 location, because the traffic is backed up, and someone is
09:26:12 going to lose their life.
09:26:14 That's going to happen.
09:26:15 And Julia is a situation that is only getting worse, just
09:26:21 because people know that they can make that turn there.
09:26:25 And of course everybody, they are making that turn
09:26:31 one-handed.
09:26:33 I would ask the council to ask the traffic department to do
09:26:35 a study and also the police department.
09:26:37 To me the academy should have police officers at morning and
09:26:42 afternoon, because that emergency vehicle has to get in, and
09:26:47 the cars are lined on the street and on the shoulder, and
09:26:51 cars cannot get by, and secondly, and for all of Tampa, you
09:27:00 have just enacted a stormwater fee.
09:27:03 And I'm supportive of that stormwater fee if it's applied
09:27:07 properly and it's monitored.
09:27:09 But this development, as is the case in many others that
09:27:15 have occurred from South Tampa, at least, it is 50% or more
09:27:18 of the property is impervious surface.
09:27:22 Then there is not a requirement to retain all of that
09:27:27 property on-site.
09:27:29 There's a retainage, and they have to retain the SWFWMD --
09:27:36 correct me if I am wrong but I got it from you all.
09:27:40 This hasn't changed in 20 years or 25 years.
09:27:43 And you have just imposed the stormwater fee, but you have
09:27:47 not looked at the current code.
09:27:54 During my administration we fixed Howard Avenue and Swann,
09:27:57 flooded, underwater all the time.
09:27:59 It is now flooding once again, that millions of dollars, and
09:28:05 the properties that the apartment complexes, if that is the
09:28:09 case, if my understanding is correct, the bigger apartment
09:28:14 complexes that were built there do not have to retain very
09:28:16 much on-site.
09:28:17 No underground vault, no retention pond.
09:28:20 And it's flooding again.
09:28:22 So I urge you to look at that, because they have to go hand
09:28:27 in hand.
09:28:27 You have to change the code to these redevelopment parcels,
09:28:33 have to do their fair share as well as the rest of the
09:28:36 community doing its fair share.
09:28:38 Thank you.
09:28:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:28:40 And Madam Mayor, I don't think that we have seen staff jump
09:28:42 as hey as they have since you had a senior staff meeting at
09:28:46 City of Tampa when you were the mayor.
09:28:48 So they were shoveling through to make sure they got the
09:28:50 right answer.
09:28:51 >> I didn't know you all were aware of that retention
09:28:54 requirement.
09:28:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Hopefully what that will be if you are
09:29:02 correct about it.
09:29:03 Mrs. Feeley.
09:29:04 >>ABBYE FEELEY: When this case went through DRC, I do have
09:29:10 the comments from stormwater and they do say if the area of
09:29:15 new construction is greater than 3,000 and less than 10, the
09:29:17 project must retain a half an inch of rainfall for area of
09:29:25 new construction, for area of new construction greater than
09:29:28 10,000, they must retain a half an inch and provide
09:29:31 retention.
09:29:32 So they submitted technical standards, and those final
09:29:40 standard will occur at the time of submitting the project.
09:29:43 And they do Shobe what they will do.
09:29:45 I mean, vault whatever they have -- the only thing is, I am
09:29:49 going to have to ask stormwater in between now and then,
09:29:53 because that's not my area of expertise.
09:29:55 >> I was not referring to the petitioner.
09:29:58 I was referring -- that's what I am saying.
09:30:01 Retain a half inch which is the SWFWMD requirement, and
09:30:05 everybody does.
09:30:06 But if there is all that impervious surface, which is what
09:30:09 the colonnade had because it was basically a parking lot,
09:30:13 then it is not the same as with this property.
09:30:17 >> They get credit.
09:30:19 >> That's right.
09:30:20 And where is the water going?
09:30:21 I mean it wasn't going anywhere before.
09:30:24 But certainly now that you imposed a fee, everybody ought to
09:30:27 be paying as we go, and the code ought to be amended.
09:30:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:30:33 And it's hard to believe you are not the mayor anymore.
09:30:35 Mrs. Capin, you have something to say?
09:30:37 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you for that, mayor Freedman.
09:30:42 I misspoke that we did not have enough information when we
09:30:45 voted for it and not enough of the proper and correct
09:30:48 information when we did vote for the stormwater.
09:30:50 So I appreciate you bringing that up.
09:30:52 Thank you.
09:30:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
09:30:55 Can we get back?
09:30:58 >> Mayor Freedman's comments were directed at you and not at
09:31:03 us and we don't need to reply.
09:31:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Feeley, I think you have something to
09:31:09 tell us concerning this particular application?
09:31:11 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
09:31:13 Council, the condition related to the air conditioner, that
09:31:18 is not on not a code requirement.
09:31:21 But I would ask for you tonight if it's your pleasure to put
09:31:24 that on the plan or commit the developer that you expressly
09:31:28 state that it's going to be put on as a council condition.
09:31:32 Council condition is not changeable or waiver after you put
09:31:35 it on that site plan.
09:31:36 And I need for you to do that for me this evening should
09:31:38 that be the pleasure and direction of the council.
09:31:41 Thank you.
09:31:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Sure.
09:31:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And let the petitioner say that, not us.
09:31:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I agree.
09:31:48 Petitioner?
09:31:50 >> We stipulate to that language and that is accepting to us
09:31:58 as council requested change.
09:32:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: And in your note then if you would go ahead
09:32:04 with the revision sheet.
09:32:06 That's what I provided.
09:32:07 In addition to that the amendment to the council, that would
09:32:11 take care of the record.
09:32:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Capin.
09:32:15 >>YVONNE CAPIN: [Off microphone.]
09:32:22 >> I believe it needs to be council directed but we
09:32:24 acknowledge and were acceptable to that.
09:32:28 Of the revised language.
09:32:29 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That we didn't request that.
09:32:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think everybody is in agreement.
09:32:40 It was stipulated by the council for the applicant.
09:32:42 It was agreed to.
09:32:44 And that he has said it on the record I think more than
09:32:47 once.
09:32:47 So I think we are fine with it if I am not mistaken.
09:32:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
09:32:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think that's what you were saying.
09:32:55 Any other questions or comments from council at this time?
09:32:59 All right.
09:33:02 I have a motion to close from Mr. Miranda, a second from
09:33:05 Mrs. Montelione.
09:33:06 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
09:33:08 Any opposed?
09:33:10 Mrs. Capin, will you kindly take this item number 10 and
09:33:14 include all of that discussion and revision that we were
09:33:18 talking about?
09:33:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: An ordinance being presented -- thank you,
09:33:22 Mr. Chair.
09:33:23 An ordinance being presented for first reading
09:33:25 consideration, an ordinance rezoning property in the general
09:33:27 vicinity of 3401 and 3409 Bayshore Boulevard in the city of
09:33:32 Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section 1
09:33:35 from zoning district classification RM 50 residential
09:33:38 multifamily to PD planned development, residential
09:33:41 multifamily, and sales center, providing an effective date,
09:33:46 to include the revision as stated by developers counsel to
09:33:54 change the verbiage from "will" to "shall" in the first
09:34:00 sentence of the last paragraph and from "commit to
09:34:03 installing" to "shall install."
09:34:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
09:34:12 I see no argument from our legal department.
09:34:15 So all in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
09:34:18 aye.
09:34:18 Any opposed?
09:34:19 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried with Cohen abstaining.
09:34:23 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
09:34:26 9:30 a.m.
09:34:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:34:28 Item number 12.
09:34:48 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
09:34:50 Item number 12 on your agenda this evening --
09:34:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Excuse me.
09:34:54 [Sounding gavel]
09:34:55 Everyone that is leaving this chamber, please be silent.
09:34:57 We are still running a meeting here.
09:34:59 Thank you so much.
09:34:59 Mrs. Feeley, go ahead.
09:35:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Thank you.
09:35:03 Item number 12 on your agenda this evening is REZ 15-83.
09:35:07 It's located at 1330, 1332, 1338, 1340 Gray Street, 401,
09:35:16 403, 405 north Oregon Avenue, and 1323, 1325, 1327, 1330,
09:35:23 and 1502 west Fig Street.
09:35:26 The request before you tonight is from an RS-50 residential
09:35:30 single-family and industrial general IG zoning district to
09:35:35 PD, planned development, dwelling, single-family attached,
09:35:40 semi-detached, and detached.
09:35:42 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff. This is in
09:36:02 the central planning district.
09:36:05 This was reviewed under the previous comprehensive plan,
09:36:09 because it was submitted last year.
09:36:12 So there's a slight difference.
09:36:16 Hart route 30 serves the subject site with the closest
09:36:19 transit stop located 1,000 feet to the south along West
09:36:22 Kennedy.
09:36:22 This is in the West Tampa urban village and it is located in
09:36:26 the evacuation zone C.
09:36:29 Here is an aerial of the site.
09:36:33 This is Willow.
09:36:35 And Cass.
09:36:38 This is Oregon, Fig, north street, and gray.
09:36:42 And here is the subject site.
09:36:46 You might be familiar.
09:36:47 There is multifamily development over in this area, and then
09:36:52 some vacant land, some industrial uses.
09:36:58 Here is a future land use map.
09:37:02 It's community mixed use 35 and general mixed use 24.
09:37:06 There's the site.
09:37:13 This is the general mixed use 24, community mixed use 35,
09:37:18 and there's residential 20 along here.
09:37:22 Planning Commission staff found the applicant is seeking a
09:37:26 additional density while requesting numerous waivers,
09:37:30 development code, as proposed, the development would not
09:37:33 properly mitigate for the proposed density.
09:37:35 Planning Commission staff found a different style, a
09:37:39 multi-story development than the proposed townhouse
09:37:43 development, may provide some more open space and
09:37:45 landscaping thus reducing the need if for so many waivers in
09:37:49 the code.
09:37:50 Further the comp plan does have a policy stating that the
09:37:52 planned development rezoning process is not to be used for
09:37:55 the sole purpose of waiving the established reuse
09:37:58 development regulations.
09:38:00 Staff finds that the proposed rezoning is not comparable and
09:38:03 compatible to the surrounding development and is
09:38:06 inconsistent with the comprehensive plan.
09:38:08 And I'm available for any questions.
09:38:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:38:11 Any questions from council?
09:38:12 Mrs. Feeley?
09:38:13 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
09:38:18 The request before you tonight is from RS-50 and industrial
09:38:22 general to PD, planned development, to construct
09:38:27 single-family attached which is a town home style,
09:38:31 semi-detached, which is a duplex style, or two units, and
09:38:35 attached.
09:38:36 As Jennifer said, this application came in actually looked
09:38:41 today, and the original application came in back in
09:38:44 September of 2015.
09:38:46 Staff has worked with this applicant through, I believe,
09:38:51 five iterations of the development.
09:38:54 The development has changed since the original application,
09:38:58 as far as area contained within the application, and taint
09:39:01 it's before you with an inconsistent finding from both land
09:39:05 development, transportation, natural resources, urban
09:39:11 design, and the Planning Commission.
09:39:14 The request does have nine waivers, and I would like to go
09:39:17 through those nine waivers with you.
09:39:20 The first is to reduce the required tree retention from 50%
09:39:24 to zero for 100% tree removal.
09:39:27 The second the S to contribute to the tree trust fund for
09:39:31 mitigation trees and required trees.
09:39:34 The third is to reduce the required front yard averaging on
09:39:37 the south side of west Fig for lot one from 15-foot to
09:39:42 5-foot 6 inches.
09:39:44 For lot 2 from 15 foot to 10-foot.
09:39:48 For lot 3, from 15-foot to 10-foot.
09:39:52 The fourth is to increase the number of dwelling units in a
09:39:56 contiguous configuration from 8 feet to 11, per 8 units to
09:40:01 11, and increase the maximum frontage width from 200 feet to
09:40:06 205 feet.
09:40:06 The fifth waiver is to reduce the required parking from 83
09:40:10 to 73 spaces.
09:40:13 12% reduction.
09:40:15 The sixth is to allow reduction in the aisle width from 24
09:40:19 feet to 21.6 feet.
09:40:21 The 7th is to reduce the backup width from 6 feet to
09:40:25 zero feet.
09:40:26 The 8th is to reduce the required multifamily green
09:40:29 space from 350 square feet per unit to 220 square feet per
09:40:35 unit for a total waiver of 4,318 square feet.
09:40:41 With payment in lieu at the time of permitting.
09:40:44 The ninth is to reduce the required vehicular use area
09:40:48 landscape from 20% to 18% for a total waiver of 75 feet.
09:40:57 I will go ahead and show you the subject property.
09:41:01 It's here in green.
09:41:04 It contains this piece here and this piece right here.
09:41:11 As Jennifer showed you, the PD to the west is the Noho Loft.
09:41:16 The PD further to the west is Havana square.
09:41:20 This was all originally a part of the west end development.
09:41:23 VO 6-77.
09:41:27 I was here that night.
09:41:28 I rezoned VO 6-77 and subsequently VO 7 which took it even a
09:41:34 further block south.
09:41:34 The large PD here is the Ferman redevelopment for Tampa
09:41:38 General Hospital.
09:41:42 You recently approved town homes over here.
09:41:46 And there are town homes constructed which I will show you
09:41:49 on the aerial to the north, and then to the west in a former
09:41:55 block of the west end.
09:42:01 Here again is the subject site.
09:42:03 This was the historic site of the Bethel AME church.
09:42:17 New Salem, thank you.
09:42:18 The new Salem church which burned down just a few years ago.
09:42:24 So that site was here.
09:42:25 In fact, full remember, the night that we did NOVA, the
09:42:31 vacating of Gray Street was a large concern for the church
09:42:34 at that time because that's how their members got to that
09:42:37 facility.
09:42:38 Here are the other two pieces.
09:42:40 Just to the west, five single-family residences that were
09:42:44 taken out of the west end development and put back to RS-50
09:42:48 for a development by homes.
09:42:54 There is a new single-family residence immediately to the
09:42:57 east of lot 3 of the subject parcel.
09:43:01 When I talk about the subject parcel, this is lot 1, lot 2,
09:43:06 lot 3.
09:43:09 As Jennifer mentioned, the request before you tonight is
09:43:12 requesting a bonus density to increase an F.A.R. of 1.4, the
09:43:17 allowable would be 1.0 on the CMU 35 portion, 1.5 on the GMU
09:43:24 24 portion.
09:43:25 And what is before you tonight exceeds that.
09:43:29 If the applicant were to utilize densities, they get 30
09:43:32 units, they would be asking for two additional units about
09:43:36 the -- above the 30.
09:43:38 However they have elected to utilize an F.A.R. calculation.
09:43:41 I am going to go ahead and show you some pictures of the
09:43:44 site now.
09:43:47 This is the site from Oregon.
09:43:51 This is the site from Fig looking back northwest.
09:43:57 Back to lot 1.
09:43:58 Lot 2, here is from Oregon.
09:44:02 Lot 2 does have large trees.
09:44:04 And this is part of the tree removal waiver.
09:44:08 This is the western side of that lot.
09:44:11 You will notice that there is low canopy of those trees.
09:44:16 This is lot 3 that is across the street, as I showed you.
09:44:21 Lot 3 here.
09:44:26 And now what I am going to do is going to go down Gray
09:44:30 Street, and then come back down grape street and then take
09:44:33 you around and go on Fig.
09:44:36 And show you quickly the surrounding area.
09:44:39 This is the north side of gray.
09:44:42 Traveling west toward Willow.
09:44:50 This is at the corner of Willow and gray.
09:44:55 Coming down, that is immediately east of the subject headed
09:45:00 back toward Willow.
09:45:04 This is at Willow and gray.
09:45:07 On the south side coming around.
09:45:12 And then on Fig.
09:45:15 Coming down Fig, to where the subject site.
09:45:20 There is a mix of commercial and single-family residential.
09:45:28 On the south side of Fig adjacent to that smaller lot 3,
09:45:32 there is a new contemporary single-family residence, some
09:45:36 vacant property next to them.
09:45:40 Other residential.
09:45:43 Vacant.
09:45:47 Single-family.
09:45:47 And then at the corner of Willow.
09:45:50 This is south of that subject lot 3.
09:45:56 And then on Oregon, north of the subject on Oregon.
09:46:04 North.
09:46:04 And then west of the subject on Fig, single-family residence
09:46:11 just discussed.
09:46:13 I would ask that you notice in that picture the use are
09:46:17 pushed back on the front yard averaging in order to allow
09:46:20 for green space and plantings.
09:46:23 That is NOHO.
09:46:24 This is multifamily residential. This is not single-family
09:46:27 residential or town home. This is multifamily residential.
09:46:33 This is the small amenity area there.
09:46:38 And then that is from Oregon.
09:46:50 An exhibit I would like to show you tonight as I present
09:46:53 staff's finding.
09:46:54 The request before you tonight is to construct a total of 37
09:46:57 dwelling units, 33 townhomes on that main lot 1 in five
09:47:03 different buildings.
09:47:07 And if I put this up.
09:47:15 So the request is for 33 town homes on this lot here, two
09:47:26 single-family semi-detached.
09:47:29 So that's typically a duplex unit, semi-detached.
09:47:36 And then two detached.
09:47:42 What Mary did was highlight the waivers with the highlighter
09:47:47 to show you what is being presented on the property.
09:47:53 I mentioned to you that one of them is to allow -- our code
09:47:57 speaks to a maximum of eight townhomes no row.
09:48:00 This is asking for 11 townhomes no row.
09:48:04 It also speaks to the averaging, and those reductions that
09:48:09 are shown there, and the tree removal shown to you in green,
09:48:15 and then the other back-up waivers for the spaces here.
09:48:20 This is a shared drive that goes into these two units.
09:48:25 Transportation does have an objection to that.
09:48:28 We are going to go through these more specifically.
09:48:30 The request before you tonight is for the 33, and then the
09:48:34 two, and then the two singles.
09:48:37 This is a 1.22-acre property and encompasses the western
09:48:41 half of a city block bounded by gray, Oregon and Fig.
09:48:45 And then a single lot on the southwest corner at north
09:48:50 Oregon and Fig.
09:48:51 And a single lot on the southeast corner of Oregon and Fig.
09:48:58 The site is surrounded by multifamily residential to the
09:49:01 west, St. Louis detached residence and parking to the east.
09:49:07 Single-family detached residential to the south.
09:49:10 A mini warehouse and light industrial to the north.
09:49:19 As I just showed you, the site plan will have three five
09:49:23 story town home residentials, garage located on the ground
09:49:27 floor.
09:49:27 The vehicular access will be off west Fig and West Gray
09:49:31 Street on the main.
09:49:33 The principal building entries are oriented to the street
09:49:36 with vehicular access in the rear.
09:49:39 There is no vehicular access proposed on north Oregon, the
09:49:43 lot line.
09:49:44 The southwest site will contain two single-family system
09:49:48 detached buildings with two units.
09:49:49 That should be one semi-detached with two units, and one
09:49:53 detached single-family dwelling.
09:49:56 Each unit has individual closet.
09:50:01 The proposed setbacks for the main property lot line are as
09:50:04 follows.
09:50:04 Front 5-foot.
09:50:06 Side 5-foot.
09:50:07 Rear 10-foot.
09:50:08 And corner 5-foot.
09:50:10 The proposed building setbacks for the southwest lot 2 are
09:50:13 as follows: Front 10-foot, side 10 foot, rear 10-foot, and
09:50:18 corner 10 foot.
09:50:19 The proposed building setbacks for lot 3 are as follows:
09:50:23 Front 10 foot, side 5-foot, rear 5-foot, and corner 10-foot.
09:50:29 The maximum building height is proposed at 45 feet.
09:50:32 Based on the proposed number of units, configuration, a
09:50:36 total of 84 spaces are required including 74 residence
09:50:41 spaces and 10 guest spaces.
09:50:43 A total of 73 are being provided subject to the waiver
09:50:47 approval of 11 spaces.
09:50:51 As we mentioned, the property does have two land uses.
09:50:55 The CMU 35 and the GMU 24.
09:50:59 The CMU 35 allows up to 30 units an acre by right, or up to
09:51:05 35 with bonus, or the utilization of F.A.R.
09:51:10 F.A.R. of 1, and potentially 2 with bonus.
09:51:15 What's being presented tonight is an F.A.R. of 1.39 which
09:51:18 requires bonus.
09:51:19 The bonus criteria includes in-fill residential development
09:51:23 in an area of economic stress, replacement of a grossly
09:51:28 incompatible use with a lesser intensity and the provision
09:51:31 of a transit stop.
09:51:41 In my preparation for my presentation to you this evening,
09:51:44 what I wanted to do was show you in this six-block area what
09:51:49 we have and what the densities as approved through a PD or
09:51:56 PDA was permitted.
09:51:59 The subject is down here in red, and this may be a little
09:52:04 bit hard to see.
09:52:05 The subject is here in red.
09:52:08 Just recently, a few months ago, you approved a PD to the
09:52:12 west.
09:52:12 These are those five individual single-family residential,
09:52:17 new detached that were recently constructed.
09:52:20 To the west you approved a retail with townhouses.
09:52:24 It had a retail strip along Oregon, two separate buildings,
09:52:28 townhouses in the back.
09:52:30 That had a density of 20 dwelling units to the acre.
09:52:35 Just to the north of this subject site hasn't come before
09:52:39 you yet.
09:52:41 There are 13 proposed at 21 dwelling units to the acre.
09:52:45 The Lennar townhomes that were recently constructed under
09:52:48 the rezoning from 2006, also same land use, 34 townhomes, 18
09:52:56 dwelling units an acre, 10 townhomes at 18 dwelling units an
09:53:00 acre, and this was the last incremental of that development
09:53:05 will come out at 16.5 dwelling units an acre with 28 units.
09:53:09 There is nothing that's been approved in this area at 32
09:53:12 dwelling units an acre.
09:53:14 Many of these under application have waivers.
09:53:17 They didn't have nine waivers.
09:53:19 They didn't have waivers to the averaging.
09:53:22 They didn't have necessarily -- I do not believe any of them
09:53:26 had waivers to the number of units in a row.
09:53:30 This is asking for 11 units in a row.
09:53:35 I think one of the most unique characteristics of this area
09:53:39 is the redevelopment at all different stages.
09:53:42 You have townhomes with single-family attached.
09:53:45 You have multifamily, which is Havana square, vintage lots,
09:53:49 NOHO that are apartments.
09:53:51 And then you actually have in-fill single-family residential
09:53:55 that is all being built within this 8-block proximity from
09:54:00 Kennedy Boulevard all the way north to cypress.
09:54:07 It's created a unique character of the area.
09:54:11 And what is important is that we continue to maintain that
09:54:13 character in the interface of these.
09:54:17 This application has waivers related to tree removal and
09:54:23 green space and tree planting.
09:54:25 It's asking to remove every tree on-site, and is not
09:54:29 providing adequate space to plant any trees back.
09:54:32 It's asking to pay into the tree trust fund before it can
09:54:36 plant anything because there is no 6-foot planting space on
09:54:40 the property to allow for adequate planting.
09:54:44 In addition, it does have a green space waiver. I
09:54:47 calculated what that amount for that waiver would be this
09:54:52 morning, and based on the 4,318 square feet and the rate
09:54:56 today, they'll owe 33,982 square feet -- dollars in green
09:55:05 space mitigation.
09:55:06 What's concerning is there's a bonus that's before you with
09:55:09 this application, yet there are nine waivers, and when I saw
09:55:17 in the staff report the only two provisions of code they are
09:55:20 meeting are stormwater and solid waste.
09:55:22 Everyone else has an objection.
09:55:23 And let me go ahead and go through those.
09:55:26 In addition to revising the waiver table for land
09:55:29 development, we found that this is inconsistent in relation
09:55:37 to the massing, the 11 units, no break in that massing, and
09:55:43 Mike Callahan is here tonight to present some urban design
09:55:46 concerning the West Tampa overlay district.
09:55:52 Similarly, Tampa height, residential district, typically, 35
09:55:57 feet.
09:55:58 This is 45 feet.
09:56:00 So on top of the 205 feet, it's 45 feet tall along Oregon
09:56:05 with only a 5-foot strip of green space.
09:56:10 Typically, the averaging allows for larger green space to
09:56:16 set the building back a little bit, and provide some
09:56:19 breaking up of the massing.
09:56:23 Number 4, acknowledge changing needs and technologies.
09:56:27 As Jennifer stated, the purpose of the PD is not to waive
09:56:31 every provision of the code.
09:56:32 The purpose of the PD is to recognize the property's unique
09:56:36 circumstances, just as the one before this that had a
09:56:41 48-inch grand tree that the building had been shifted
09:56:44 around. This application is asking for 100% tree removal.
09:56:48 It asking for relief from the design standards related to
09:56:53 the overlay for the averaging.
09:56:56 It asking for green space reduction.
09:57:00 And it's not presenting after new circumstance that is
09:57:03 warranting that relief from the code requirement.
09:57:11 On page 6 of your report, flexible land development, the
09:57:15 property is currently vacant.
09:57:18 Staff did have concerns related to the bonus for the removal
09:57:23 of a grossly incompatible use.
09:57:26 It is available for the applicant to provide what those
09:57:30 bonuses are.
09:57:32 It's ultimately council's decision as to whether or not
09:57:35 those provisions meet the bonus that is being requested.
09:57:39 That is where you sit this evening.
09:57:42 And because the church burnt down, I don't know that that's
09:57:46 the removal of a grossly incompatible use.
09:57:49 The church was there for a very long time, and with part of
09:57:53 the fabric of that community for a very long time.
09:57:56 So I would want to say that that wasn't an additional
09:58:00 dwelling unit, but ultimately, council, you are the
09:58:03 determiner of those three bonus provisions, and whether or
09:58:05 not they are adequate to give this applicant additional
09:58:10 development right.
09:58:14 Transportation is here this evening, and Jonathan did have
09:58:19 findings of inconsistency related to the parking reduction,
09:58:23 the reduction in the backout from 24 feet, 21.60, the
09:58:29 sharing of the assets between to reduce the backup from
09:58:35 6-foot to zero foot.
09:58:36 That is not adequate.
09:58:40 And he has modifications that required.
09:58:44 Natural resources has an objection to the reduction in the
09:58:49 tree removal, the failure to provide planting spaces, the
09:58:54 waiver to reduce the required vehicle use area landscape,
09:58:58 and the multifamily landscape requirement.
09:59:05 This one has one other item before I go ahead and turn
09:59:12 things over to Mike to talk about the urban design.
09:59:20 As I mentioned to you, the purpose of the PD states per
09:59:24 27-136 of the code, the purpose of a site plan controlled
09:59:28 district is to recognize unique conditions allow design
09:59:31 flexibility and promote planned diversification and
09:59:35 integration of the uses and structures.
09:59:37 This isn't an overlay district of the city.
09:59:40 This does have substantial waivers.
09:59:43 Staff believes that the combination of those waivers reduced
09:59:46 setbacks, increased height, increased length of continuous
09:59:50 building and massing, providing little or no land as a
09:59:53 buffer, does not support the purpose and intent of a PD.
09:59:58 Thank you.
09:59:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:00:00 Any questions from council at this time?
10:00:04 Mr. Callahan?
10:00:05 >> Good evening, council.
10:00:11 Mike Callahan, urban design.
10:00:14 Council, we trade, but after five iterations, the site plan,
10:00:19 it's frustrating for staff to get there.
10:00:23 We did work hard.
10:00:24 But this is a project that has as you heard great detail,
10:00:27 and I will be brief because Abbye covered many of the things
10:00:30 that I would talk about.
10:00:32 But staff concern on a number of levels for this
10:00:35 neighborhood, the address in the West Tampa overlay.
10:00:39 And as noted in the staff report, and renumerating a number
10:00:45 of times, nine waivers.
10:00:47 I have to tell you, council, from my perspective, those are
10:00:50 self-imposed waivers.
10:00:53 And the three waivers that I think from an urban design
10:00:56 perspective that I wanted to impress upon you, one is the
10:01:01 idea that the site -- this is in the overlay, and it's also
10:01:06 in the West Tampa urban village, which requires to determine
10:01:11 where the building fits to the front of the lot.
10:01:14 The setbacks don't match the single-family pattern in the
10:01:19 neighborhood.
10:01:20 Lot one, we have 15-foot setback, and it's 5 and a half.
10:01:26 We can't even plant a tree in there.
10:01:28 In fact, no where on the site on that one can we plant a
10:01:31 tree.
10:01:35 I can tell you that with great confidence.
10:01:36 It wouldn't even met the city standards to plant a tree
10:01:39 there.
10:01:40 I would like to show you, though, an example four blocks to
10:01:43 the north.
10:01:45 If we can have the Elmo, please.
10:01:49 A juxtaposition of three different residential types.
10:01:52 We have a multifamily.
10:01:53 We have a single-family attached.
10:01:55 And we have the single-family unattached along Oregon, which
10:02:01 as I said four blocks to the north.
10:02:03 But if you notice the relationship between the back of the
10:02:07 sidewalk to the building on both sides of the street, both
10:02:09 for the unattached and the attached, it's the same.
10:02:13 You can plant trees there.
10:02:16 I'm not here to promote Lennar.
10:02:18 I could really care less.
10:02:19 But I just wanted to show you that we don't really have that
10:02:22 in this particular project.
10:02:26 Lack of green space is the second as Abbye indicated.
10:02:29 Allow little or no room for tree planting.
10:02:33 I did it real quickly.
10:02:35 We did just show a graphic of the areas for planting, which
10:02:42 is very minimal.
10:02:43 We have a little bit more on the southwest corner of lot 2.
10:02:46 But nowhere on this lot 1 do I see a place to plant trees.
10:02:50 Perhaps maybe in this corner right here between the
10:02:53 buildings.
10:02:55 And it important to denote that, because all along Oregon,
10:03:03 this building is over 40 feet tall.
10:03:06 We are going to have 200 linear feet of 40-foot tall without
10:03:10 a single tree.
10:03:11 Perhaps they will promote the idea of using palms but that's
10:03:16 not what the overlay recommends.
10:03:19 And then thirdly, the massing, height and scale, as I said,
10:03:24 section 27-282, requires a maximum of 8 units.
10:03:28 This is 11.
10:03:30 Which again creates a giant 40-foot plus wall all along
10:03:35 Oregon without any breaks.
10:03:37 And I must add on the very beginning of the process, there
10:03:41 was a break in the middle, and somehow it has disappeared,
10:03:46 in the iterations of the site plan.
10:03:48 So that was disappointing to see.
10:03:53 There needs to be a connection.
10:03:58 At least that wall needs to be broken up.
10:04:03 So with the addition of these three waivers, and the
10:04:06 addition of the other six, it's just too much.
10:04:10 It's too much for this small corner of West Tampa.
10:04:15 So the bottom line, I have to say this is a 10-pound
10:04:20 development in a 5-pound container, a lot in a little bit of
10:04:24 area.
10:04:24 A lower density project that can accommodate the required
10:04:26 parking, buildings and the green space would be a more
10:04:30 desirable project for this West Tampa community.
10:04:34 That's my presentation.
10:04:36 Thank you.
10:04:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions of Mr. Callahan?
10:04:39 Petitioner?
10:05:11 >>MARK BENTLEY: 201 North Franklin Street.
10:05:16 I represent the applicant.
10:05:18 Mr. Chairman, as you are aware, the companion item, item 13,
10:05:24 goes with the petition.
10:05:25 And what I was going to suggest is that maybe we incorporate
10:05:32 both hearings into one and then we can incorporate the
10:05:35 testimony and evidence in item 12 into 13 and save everybody
10:05:38 some time.
10:05:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The only suggestion I would make,
10:05:41 Mr. Bentley, you are going to have to get this first anyway,
10:05:45 I would suggest just go forward with number 12.
10:05:48 >>MARK BENTLEY: That's fine.
10:05:49 Thank you.
10:05:50 Before I get started, I want to introduce the developer,
10:05:53 Michael venture.
10:05:56 And Mike, you might not be familiar with him.
10:05:59 He's done a lot of projects including the shotgun in Ybor.
10:06:04 Mike wanted to address council briefly.
10:06:06 And I have never seen someone beat the pavement like make in
10:06:10 terms of community outreach.
10:06:11 And all the efforts of the last few months, he's got the
10:06:15 endorsement of various Civic Associations, a lot of
10:06:19 residents, and actually a lot of contiguous property owners
10:06:25 to the subject property.
10:06:26 Mike.
10:06:27 >> Thank you, council.
10:06:29 We are excited to be here tonight.
10:06:31 North Hyde Park is a very exciting neighborhood.
10:06:34 And we set out the project in front of you.
10:06:39 We really worked tirelessly to meet with neighbors,
10:06:42 personally reached out, made phone calls, knocked on doors,
10:06:46 and have probably been to more than ten neighborhood
10:06:50 association meetings all together.
10:06:52 Part of the reason that we have going through this process
10:06:55 so long is we want to put together a project that the
10:06:58 neighborhood was in support of, that was marketable and
10:07:05 economically feasible.
10:07:07 The big feedback that we heard over and over again was that
10:07:11 they wanted to see some project with some home ownership.
10:07:16 Versus a lot of apartments that had been coming up.
10:07:18 And waivers that were in percentagewise on some of the
10:07:24 waivers that were more important to them greatly larger.
10:07:29 So I think I'm proud of the job that my team has done, and
10:07:34 I'm really happy that we got to speak with so much of the
10:07:37 community.
10:07:38 And I think this is a project that they feel like they got a
10:07:41 voice in, and got to be part of.
10:07:43 So thank you for hearing us tonight.
10:07:46 >> Mr. Chairman, Jim Crew.
10:07:51 If the speaker could state his name for the record.
10:07:53 >> Michael Minceberg, 1710 North 19th Street, number
10:07:58 210, Tampa, Florida 33605.
10:07:59 >> Thank you, sir.
10:08:03 >>MARK BENTLEY: What I would like to do right now is talk a
10:08:11 little about the project and then address some of these
10:08:13 waivers, and then deal with the development agreement.
10:08:16 But the name of the project means rooftop terrace.
10:08:25 In Spanish.
10:08:25 I think I got it right, Mr. Miranda.
10:08:28 But you are going to see based on the rendering and some of
10:08:32 the information I have given you, the rooftops are a very
10:08:34 important element to the project, and to a certain degree
10:08:38 you can consider them offsetting some of the green space
10:08:41 requirements.
10:08:44 To clarify, the project, there are 37 units, 3-story on
10:08:48 three parcels.
10:08:49 As Abbye indicated there are larger lot 1, 2 and 3.
10:08:54 I just want to clarify that the actual height of the
10:08:57 project, 36 feet 10 inches, and the parapet that conceals
10:09:03 the stairway, that is recessed, and I will show you an
10:09:08 elevation in a second.
10:09:09 So that's not considered part of the structure.
10:09:11 It's actually recessed about 10 feet.
10:09:14 So in terms of compatibility which we will get into, I just
10:09:17 want for the record, the height is 36 feet 10 inches.
10:09:22 Then you have a retaining wall for two to three feet, and
10:09:27 the rooftop parapets conceal the stairs which is required by
10:09:30 the West Tampa overlay so it's not 45 feet.
10:09:33 I just want to get that straight.
10:09:37 The land use designation of CMU 35 for the larger one-acre
10:09:41 parcel in lot 2, third lot is GMU 24.
10:09:46 So that's not part of the development agreement.
10:09:49 That we are going to deal with in terms of the density
10:09:52 bonus.
10:09:53 So you have 33 townhomes on lot 1.
10:09:56 Two conventional single-family homes on lot 2.
10:09:58 And two single-family detached on lot 3.
10:10:04 This project started out as 35 units per acre density.
10:10:09 Now after months of working on this, we went from 35 to
10:10:12 30.32 units per acre.
10:10:15 So when we get to the bonus provision, you are going to see
10:10:18 that simply relate to the overall scheme of things, two
10:10:22 units.
10:10:26 We are not seeking the full bonus of 35 units but actually
10:10:30 31 units per acre.
10:10:31 And Rebecca has a draft of the development agreement.
10:10:34 I Sur Mace you have received that already and it makes that
10:10:37 clear in the development agreement.
10:10:44 Just want to clarify one point in terms of the density, and
10:10:52 that CMU 35 you have the option as developer to keep either
10:10:56 square footage or number of units.
10:10:59 So Mrs. Feel reply indicated to you that we are seeking the
10:11:02 intensity, the F.A.R., based on the increase, based on the
10:11:07 floor area ratio.
10:11:08 But I think there's a misunderstanding, if you look at, I
10:11:12 think, page 3, paragraph 4 of the proposed development
10:11:15 agreement, it says the developer is limiting development of
10:11:18 its project to 1.39 F.A.R., or 31 units per acre.
10:11:23 So I just want to clarify that.
10:11:25 And then secondarily concerning the bonus criteria, I think
10:11:30 there is a misstatement as well.
10:11:33 You can qualify for the bonus if you meet three of the
10:11:35 criteria.
10:11:36 And this section actually was repealed a few months ago.
10:11:41 So the criteria that we have met -- and I will show you, we
10:11:44 actually have a staff memo indicating that we would qualify
10:11:47 for these criteria, is prosecute mixed use, no debate where
10:11:54 that, adaptation or replacement of lesser intensity.
10:11:57 Okay.
10:11:57 We weren't seeking to -- there's another provision in that
10:12:05 section.
10:12:06 Abbye, what is it?
10:12:09 Okay, that's feign.
10:12:11 But anyhow, with this criteria says is if you are replacing
10:12:15 an existing use with the use of lesser intensity based on
10:12:18 the provision of your code, actually they call them groups,
10:12:21 you would qualify for that criteria.
10:12:24 So what we are doing is replacing the church with townhomes
10:12:31 and single-family.
10:12:36 So I think it was grossly incompatible use was another
10:12:41 section of that provision.
10:12:42 It's like a two-part criteria.
10:12:44 I just want to clarify that.
10:12:46 Then we are providing the transit stop at Hart's discretion.
10:12:50 They identified three potential locations.
10:12:58 I have given you a copy of this.
10:12:59 This is the rendering here.
10:13:01 It shows landscaping, Hedges, and trees, from this building.
10:13:06 And this is a view from the south on Fig Street lag north to
10:13:11 lot 1.
10:13:16 These are just some of the projects.
10:13:17 And then we have already covered that territory
10:13:21 This is the property located to the north.
10:13:24 Of the property.
10:13:25 You can see I am pointing out the church parking lot, the
10:13:27 former church.
10:13:28 And this property owner, this is on gray street.
10:13:31 They have no objection to the project.
10:13:34 Here is looking east.
10:13:38 Toward Willow.
10:13:42 This is looking to the east from Oregon.
10:13:46 And you will see that these are some of the trees that we
10:13:50 are taking out, these small palms.
10:13:53 There's actually five trees on the subject property.
10:13:55 And four of them are the small palms.
10:13:58 And we have actually requested to transplant those.
10:14:04 And the natural resources department says historically very
10:14:08 difficult to do that.
10:14:09 So they discourage that.
10:14:10 But we are ready, willing and able to maintain all the
10:14:14 trees.
10:14:14 It sounds kind of shocking that the developer is eliminating
10:14:18 every tree on-site.
10:14:19 The one tree, I believe, and four smaller palms like that.
10:14:23 These are the palms we are talking about here.
10:14:26 And we had a master arborist submit a report to the city
10:14:30 indicating that in his professional opinion you could in
10:14:34 fact relocate these palms, but the city suggested that we
10:14:37 don't do that.
10:14:39 Here is looking southwest.
10:14:41 Lot 2.
10:14:42 And you can see there's going to be two single-family homes
10:14:47 on that property.
10:14:49 And here is the tree.
10:14:52 On the west side of that property.
10:14:54 These trees aren't on our property, okay.
10:14:57 They are on adjacent property.
10:14:59 But we have designed these two homes on the property after
10:15:02 several different iterations to save every tree on the
10:15:07 property.
10:15:09 Even though they are not our trees.
10:15:12 And here is NOHO flats located directly to the west.
10:15:17 City Council approved the height for this project at 55
10:15:20 feet.
10:15:21 And as I mentioned ours are 36 feet 10 inches.
10:15:24 And additional 10 feet with the setback parapet to cover the
10:15:30 stairwells.
10:15:31 This is a property located directly to the east.
10:15:34 This is a single-family home.
10:15:36 Mr. Davis owns it.
10:15:38 He submitted a letter in support.
10:15:41 Hopefully, you have had the opportunity to review them as
10:15:44 they have come in. So Mr. Davis is in support.
10:15:47 All these trees right here along this property line, okay,
10:15:52 those are not on our property, and we are saving those trees
10:15:56 as well.
10:15:57 We have designed around that.
10:15:58 So Mr. Davis is in support.
10:16:00 Actually, on that side of the property we have a 10-foot
10:16:03 setback.
10:16:04 Here is a view of the property.
10:16:06 This is lot 3.
10:16:08 Located next to lot 3 is a single-family home built recently
10:16:13 by an architect, Jon Paul Bacarizi, and he actually
10:16:18 submitted two letters in support.
10:16:23 So there was some concern voiced by staff in terms of
10:16:26 proximity of the buildings on our property to that property.
10:16:29 But here again, he's in support.
10:16:31 These are just some of the homes on Fig.
10:16:38 And most of these property owners -- and I will show you a
10:16:43 map shortly on Fig that we can contact are in support, and
10:16:47 either signed a petition or sent a letter in support.
10:16:50 And this is looking toward Willow.
10:16:52 Commercial property there in support as well.
10:16:55 Here is the southeast corner of Oregon and Fig.
10:17:00 This is lot 3.
10:17:02 You can see John Paul's house here.
10:17:06 An old retail store.
10:17:07 If you know the neighborhood at all, apparently they closed
10:17:10 down in '92.
10:17:11 It was a precursor to 7-Eleven.
10:17:14 The owner got robbed.
10:17:15 And my client bought the property.
10:17:18 We didn't bring it into the zoning here because we didn't
10:17:20 need to.
10:17:21 And we are actually converting that into a coffee bar.
10:17:28 And here is the picture of the building.
10:17:34 The irony is the CMU 35 got changed recently and will allow
10:17:39 you as right to have the 35 unit per acre if you had two
10:17:44 different uses.
10:17:45 Okay.
10:17:45 And if we would have brought it into the project under the
10:17:49 new CMU 35 provision, we probably wouldn't be dealing with
10:17:53 the development agreement.
10:17:56 Here is a view to the west.
10:17:58 Here is NOHO flats here again approved by council for 55
10:18:03 feet.
10:18:04 And here is another shot of NOHO flats.
10:18:14 What I would like to do now is -- I don't know how well you
10:18:20 can see it.
10:18:21 We put it on here.
10:18:32 [Off microphone.]
10:18:34 There are 33 townhomes.
10:18:36 Lot 2:single-family conventional homes.
10:18:40 Lot 3, let's address a couple of these waivers.
10:18:47 The only waiver to the driveway is a technical issue.
10:18:53 Actually construct and design the project that you would
10:19:00 Seay see in Hunter's Green or Tampa Palms.
10:19:05 Under your code, they are supposed to be 24 feet wide.
10:19:10 They are 21.5 feet.
10:19:12 Okay.
10:19:12 So 24 feet applied to strip center, retail, office parking.
10:19:20 So the city would impose 24 feet for two single-family
10:19:24 homes.
10:19:25 Our waiver is 21 feet 6 inches.
10:19:29 The second waiver would be turn around.
10:19:35 The city wants another 6 feet.
10:19:37 So you see that turning movement.
10:19:41 Obviously single-family residential, like three or four
10:19:46 cars.
10:19:51 And Jonathan Scott is here.
10:19:57 And I'm talking about it.
10:19:58 And I don't think from my observation and discussion with
10:20:03 Jonathan, that is concerned about it.
10:20:05 Now, here are all the trees on other property that we are
10:20:09 seeing about 20 trees unfortunately under your code, we
10:20:12 don't get credit for those because they are not on our
10:20:15 property.
10:20:15 So we are preserving all these trees here.
10:20:17 (Bell sounds)
10:20:18 And then on the east side here, Mr. Davis' house, as I
10:20:23 showed you, is a photograph.
10:20:26 We are saving those trees.
10:20:27 All the lots on the setbacks here.
10:20:30 The suggestion that we are not in compliance with the West
10:20:32 Tampa overlay.
10:20:35 The staff has recommended based on averaging historically,
10:20:40 other criteria, the setbacks on the west side of the
10:20:42 property of lot 1, we are providing 6-foot 9 feet.
10:20:47 (Bell sounds).
10:20:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Bentley, you have 10 second to
10:20:53 summarize.
10:20:53 >>MARK BENTLEY: I have got -- you? Got the same time that
10:20:57 every other person gets when they come up and give a
10:20:59 presentation.
10:21:00 You have been here many times.
10:21:01 >> Staff had about 20 minutes to go over.
10:21:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You got the same time that everyone else
10:21:06 gets.
10:21:07 >>MARK BENTLEY: We respectfully request some additional
10:21:09 time.
10:21:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Bentley, I think you know the rules
10:21:14 going in.
10:21:15 You know how to present these cases.
10:21:17 You presented your case.
10:21:18 >>MARK BENTLEY: I haven't presented my case with, all due
10:21:22 respect, Mr. Chairman.
10:21:24 I would appreciate --
10:21:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You can waste your time talking about
10:21:27 whether you need more time or if one of the members of
10:21:29 council wants to bring up more time for Mr. Bentley, please
10:21:32 make that motion.
10:21:33 But I am not going to agree to it.
10:21:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'll make the motion.
10:21:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: How much time do you want?
10:21:39 >> Three minutes.
10:21:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Three minutes?
10:21:41 We have a motion by Mrs. Capin.
10:21:43 We have a second from Mr. Reddick.
10:21:45 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:21:48 Any opposed?
10:21:50 Mr. Crew, three minutes.
10:21:52 >>MARK BENTLEY: Okay.
10:21:56 Don't have much time now.
10:21:58 But I bow appreciate the same amount of time as staff.
10:22:00 But in any event it is what it is.
10:22:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You are wasting more time.
10:22:04 >>MARK BENTLEY: Thank you for your observation,
10:22:06 Mr. Chairman.
10:22:07 What I have given you is a comparison of waivers here.
10:22:10 Another suggestion, some minor little waivers like I showed
10:22:13 you the driveway.
10:22:14 But look what's going on with the properties adjacent to the
10:22:17 subject property.
10:22:18 And compare our project.
10:22:20 I have given you this chart here.
10:22:22 NOHO flats, green space reduction, 69%, Havana square 72,
10:22:28 Richmond 61.
10:22:29 All the parking reductions exceed ours.
10:22:31 The Heights of these other projects, 36 feet 10 inches.
10:22:36 These are 64, 58.
10:22:39 55.
10:22:41 As I indicated.
10:22:45 This is the elevation we submitted to the city.
10:22:47 It actually shows as I indicated to council the height of 36
10:22:50 feet 10 inches.
10:23:03 The averaging for the setback like I said, we comply with
10:23:06 all the setbacks based on staff's recommendation.
10:23:09 But you can see here NOHO is at -- you can see their
10:23:16 setbacks about 6 feet.
10:23:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Stop for a moment.
10:23:20 Stop his time.
10:23:21 The camera room, we are not seeing that on our screen in
10:23:24 front of us, from the Elmo.
10:23:27 Can you fix that problem real quick?
10:23:31 There we see it more closely.
10:23:32 Thank you.
10:23:33 >>MARK BENTLEY: So what I am saying in terms of setback,
10:23:37 you do averaging based on existing property.
10:23:41 You look at the historical use.
10:23:43 The property directly on the other block, NOHO flats is at 6
10:23:48 feet 9 inches.
10:23:49 The only waiver West Tampa overlay setback is on Fig Street.
10:23:54 The city suggests 15 feet and we are saying it's 5 feet 6
10:23:58 inches.
10:23:59 And they are supposed to be considered historical
10:24:01 information.
10:24:02 And just to kind of cut to the chase, here is a picture of
10:24:04 the church, okay.
10:24:07 And it says consider what we bought before developing the
10:24:12 property.
10:24:12 And this is the church.
10:24:14 It was 5 feet 6 inches from the property line.
10:24:16 The exact setback that we are proposing for our project on
10:24:20 this side.
10:24:23 In terms of parking, we are ten spaces short.
10:24:26 We are going to have parking like these other projects in
10:24:29 the right-of-way.
10:24:33 Here is the support we received.
10:24:34 Everything in green, the property owner to the north said no
10:24:39 objection.
10:24:39 (Bell sounds)
10:24:40 Everybody else in here said no objection.
10:24:43 All these other property owners actually signed the petition
10:24:45 or sent letters in support.
10:24:47 And including the two that would be most effected by the
10:24:51 project.
10:24:54 So I'll just deal with the density bonus, I guess, in the
10:25:00 item 13.
10:25:03 But I just want to make this point here, too.
10:25:06 Here is a memo from staff.
10:25:09 And it says -- and here is the criteria I was mentioning.
10:25:12 It says adaptive use with unit less intense use group in
10:25:17 section 27 and your staff says yes, that can apply.
10:25:20 (Bell sounds)
10:25:22 10 second, okay?
10:25:23 That's what we were seeking in terms of density.
10:25:25 The density, allows 30 units per acre, we are seeking 30.3,
10:25:30 for the overall project.
10:25:31 So unless I get any more time.
10:25:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any questions by council of the petitioner?
10:25:45 Anyone?
10:25:47 Okay.
10:25:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Not of petitioner but of our staff.
10:25:59 Mrs. Feeley?
10:26:04 Can you explain the last bit of language?
10:26:10 You said a couple of times about the less intense use from
10:26:17 the church, and the memo.
10:26:21 And Mr. Bentley, if you have extras.
10:26:25 >>MARK BENTLEY: Yes, I am trying to help Abbye here.
10:26:29 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land development.
10:26:31 And I'm a visual person.
10:26:33 So I would like to see it.
10:26:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE:
10:26:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I am referring to the one that he had on
10:26:39 the screen where it says whether it applied or not.
10:26:43 >>ABBYE FEELEY: This is not a memo of determination of
10:26:45 whether we found it appropriate.
10:26:47 Those are ten criteria that any applicant brings to you as
10:26:53 City Council for you to make that determination.
10:26:55 That's not staff saying that it's okay.
10:26:58 But they need to bring those bonus criteria to you. This
10:27:01 was part of the reason that the bonus criteria has been
10:27:03 changed now in order to be a dollar amount for the increase
10:27:09 in intensity that is coming before you, because this is
10:27:14 ultimately a few.
10:27:17 They can come in and say these are the three we would like
10:27:20 to apply for, and land development will say, okay, you may
10:27:23 do that, but it is for you to prove to council that these
10:27:28 three things shall be considered for you to be granted
10:27:31 bonus.
10:27:33 Not for staff to say we find them appropriate.
10:27:36 You can apply for them.
10:27:38 They are applicable.
10:27:39 Mr. Bentley needs to make the argument to you that here is
10:27:42 why these three should be considered, and I should get the
10:27:47 additional three.
10:27:48 I don't know how else --
10:27:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mrs. Feeley --
10:27:52 >> That's going to be whether that church was an
10:27:55 incompatible use.
10:27:57 Yes, the church was in an industrial zoning district.
10:27:59 However the church was there for 100 years.
10:28:01 I don't know that that makes it incompatible.
10:28:04 That neighborhood grew up around it.
10:28:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But whether you agree or we agree --
10:28:13 >> It's your determination.
10:28:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: -- the point is that we give them two
10:28:18 more units.
10:28:21 The application number 7.
10:28:24 >>ABBYE FEELEY: He needs to satisfy three of the time
10:28:26 criteria for you.
10:28:28 One of them is economically distressed area.
10:28:30 Yes, this project is in the West Tampa CRA.
10:28:33 And qualifies tore that and he may ask you for that.
10:28:37 The other is the transit stop they are asking for.
10:28:41 They can complete that.
10:28:43 The third one is up to the applicant to say what he is
10:28:47 applying for and whether or not he feels -- typically what
10:28:50 we have seen in these projects -- and if I may, NOHO, the
10:28:55 structured parking, and enhanced streetscape and landscape,
10:28:59 and those things are in the development agreement as to
10:29:04 benches, water fountains, other things that --
10:29:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But on here, the one about structured
10:29:09 parking says cannot apply, because they are not putting
10:29:14 structured parking in.
10:29:15 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Correct.
10:29:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the improvements -- I don't have a
10:29:22 copy of it so I was looking at it.
10:29:24 This number 10, the pedestrian and streetscape would not
10:29:28 apply because they are not putting in planters, benches,
10:29:35 street trees and not undergrounding utilities, among other
10:29:38 things that are mentioned here.
10:29:40 >>ABBYE FEELEY: And they waived their green space and not
10:29:42 planting their own trees on-site so I don't know how you can
10:29:45 qualify for enhancement of streetscape when you can't meet
10:29:48 minimum standard on your own property.
10:29:51 So this was us going through what they provided, and
10:29:55 providing --
10:29:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When it comes down to the ones that he
10:29:58 highlighted in green are the three that he's requesting.
10:30:02 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Right.
10:30:04 Adaptation or of a grossly incompatible use with a use that
10:30:09 is compatible with the predominant use of an area or
10:30:12 adaptation or replacement of a use which is of lesser
10:30:17 intensity than the existing use.
10:30:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You weren't asked a question, Mr. Bentley,
10:30:22 sit down.
10:30:26 >>ABBYE FEELEY: The existing property is currently vacant,
10:30:30 it was a church.
10:30:31 Mr. Bentley said to go back to the most recent years.
10:30:34 I don't know that I see that in there.
10:30:37 I mean, this was one of the fundamental, perhaps, issues
10:30:42 with why council directed that we go to a bonus density that
10:30:45 is a dollar amount per square footage, and a ten to one
10:30:49 ratio so that we could better determine what the intensity
10:30:53 and the bonus that is being granted means --
10:30:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I am the one who asked for changes
10:30:59 to the bonus density credit because I thought that some of
10:31:01 our provisions for bonus densities were just silly.
10:31:06 I mean, just either were antiquated or just did not apply
10:31:13 to --
10:31:20 >> I understand.
10:31:21 >> The other question I had was about the CMU 35.
10:31:24 >> Yes.
10:31:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And something said about changing?
10:31:28 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Yes.
10:31:29 It has not changed.
10:31:30 There is a comprehensive plan amendment that is going to be
10:31:32 coming before you that talks about changing the CMU 35 or
10:31:36 allowing for CMU 35 on a one to -- one to 1.5.
10:31:43 There are qualifiers associated with that.
10:31:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But it has virtually integrated mixed
10:31:50 use.
10:31:50 >>ABBYE FEELEY: But that has not been adopted.
10:31:53 No, ma'am.
10:31:53 So the CMU 35 --
10:31:57 An F.A.R. of one, yes.
10:31:59 Or 30 units to the acre by right.
10:32:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I mean, looking at some of the
10:32:05 inconsistencies as written, I mean, something like I could
10:32:10 see something, in number 4 and general requirements,
10:32:19 acknowledge changing need, technologies, economic ingenuity,
10:32:24 you state that the proposed development is not imaginative
10:32:28 in its design.
10:32:29 I mean, I have to say looking at the rendering I think it's
10:32:32 pretty imaginative.
10:32:33 So I think that's kind of a matter of --
10:32:38 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Remember that rendering we do not control
10:32:41 architectural --
10:32:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Know, we don't.
10:32:44 But the reputation of the person making the application to
10:32:47 show us one thing and then build something completely
10:32:50 different.
10:32:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: But I would like to clarify, if I may, I saw
10:32:55 this was provided to you, this was shown just a stair area.
10:33:00 That 36 is here.
10:33:02 What is being shown above that by code is structure.
10:33:06 And it is at 46 something.
10:33:08 And that is what Mike and I were just looking at that, the
10:33:12 elevations that go with the plan.
10:33:13 That is the height of the building.
10:33:16 Our code allows for projections above the height for things
10:33:20 such as mechanical equipment, staircases, things like that.
10:33:24 As long as they don't encompass more than 20% of the roof
10:33:27 area.
10:33:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the staircases you just mentioned --
10:33:34 >> That's here.
10:33:35 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And all of them added together is more
10:33:37 than 20% of the area?
10:33:39 >> It's not that.
10:33:40 It's that these other structures are integrated into the
10:33:43 massing of the stair area and this whole area above here by
10:33:47 code with these structures.
10:33:50 So we need to recognize the hate of the structure for what
10:33:52 it is, and also I would clarify just like I did on the one
10:33:56 on MacDill for you last month that had roof decks, I
10:33:59 would like a note on here that none of that area is going to
10:34:02 be enclosed.
10:34:02 It will not be livable space.
10:34:04 It will not be air conditioned space.
10:34:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I think we can add.
10:34:08 That we've you are looking at that, you know, and saying the
10:34:11 height of the building is 45 feet plus, you know, if they
10:34:19 are going to build this the way it's rendered, it doesn't --
10:34:24 you know, the height of the building to me is where the
10:34:29 rooftop is.
10:34:30 I mean, I personally wouldn't consider the metal fabricated
10:34:38 area the height of the building, because it's on space.
10:34:48 That's how I look at it.
10:34:50 I mean, just from --
10:34:53 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I understand, and I did the one on
10:34:55 MacDill last month that had the same component in it.
10:34:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And I recognize --
10:35:00 >>ABBYE FEELEY: And I would hold that it is a structure.
10:35:02 It is structure by code.
10:35:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And into conditions not to be enclosed,
10:35:09 or livable space, that sort of thing.
10:35:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY: The last clarification I would like to make
10:35:15 is that the other project that was cited as being taller are
10:35:18 multifamily residential.
10:35:20 They are apartment buildings.
10:35:22 And this application came in, the first time back in
10:35:24 September 15, and we took it October 2015 to the DRC.
10:35:32 We had multifamily with structured parking underneath would
10:35:34 be more appropriate so you can meet the parking, and you can
10:35:39 have other green space alternatives.
10:35:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But these are for ownership.
10:35:44 So it's a decision of whether we want more rental or we want
10:35:48 people to own the units.
10:35:50 I mean, if we put rentals on that property, they could
10:35:55 probably get more units than what we are asking for.
10:35:57 >>ABBYE FEELEY: They can't.
10:35:59 The land use is the same whether they are ownership or
10:36:02 rental.
10:36:03 That's why I took this up to show you.
10:36:05 All the other ones that are ownership in this area had a
10:36:07 density substantially less.
10:36:11 Substantially less.
10:36:14 That's what makes it so much more incompatible.
10:36:16 Because we have that coupled with all the other relief from
10:36:20 code.
10:36:22 You don't have anything at a 30 or even close to a 30.
10:36:27 The one you just approved had 20.
10:36:29 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I thought density is what we want.
10:36:39 >>ABBYE FEELEY: We do.
10:36:40 We still want to the meet code and have the green space and
10:36:42 the trees that it's required to have for that use.
10:36:47 If we lost two units or three units, and we can pick up that
10:36:51 green space and planting area, I think you would see some of
10:36:54 the other waivers go away.
10:36:56 And they it would just be the amount of density, and the
10:37:01 placement that's being coupled to get to, I guess, the
10:37:06 number that they need is forcing these other things to
10:37:08 happen.
10:37:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions by council right now of
10:37:15 petitioner or the staff?
10:37:16 If not we are going to go to the public.
10:37:18 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
10:37:20 item number 12, REZ 15-83 F.so, please come forward, state
10:37:25 your name.
10:37:26 >> Gary Cohen, 3435 Bayshore Boulevard.
10:37:32 I am a neighbor and property owner.
10:37:34 And to the north.
10:37:39 And not only am I the owner of that property, but my office
10:37:43 has been there for 40 years.
10:37:47 So I'm intimately with the neighborhood and all the changes
10:37:51 that have taken place.
10:37:54 Unfortunately, Mr. Bentley spoke slightly incorrectly when
10:37:58 he said that we supported the project as submitted.
10:38:03 We do support townhouses.
10:38:06 And there are many features to this project that are very
10:38:09 attractive.
10:38:12 Our objection is a lack of parking.
10:38:18 Which is combined with the fact that when you heard
10:38:24 Mr. Bentley speak of other townhouses developed
10:38:27 northeastern, he spoke of -- or maybe it was Abbye -- the
10:38:32 Lennar townhouses.
10:38:34 The Lennar townhouses provided two-car garage and the
10:38:38 equivalent of the driveway behind them, where perhaps put
10:38:43 the guest parking.
10:38:45 It's also in many cases these garages are the narrowest
10:38:52 garages that code will approve.
10:38:54 There's room in there for two cars.
10:38:56 And many people park one car and the other space is storage.
10:39:03 In the Lennar townhomes where they have a driveway behind
10:39:07 you can park a second car in the driveway.
10:39:11 The way this is designed, there are no driveways.
10:39:14 There's a very narrow 21.5-foot driveway that goes up both
10:39:19 sides into the garages.
10:39:21 There is zero guest parking, because they spoke of 37 units
10:39:27 with 73 spaces and 11 waivers.
10:39:31 And 37 times 2 is 74.
10:39:35 But this project only has 73.
10:39:38 Even if the two cars parked in the garage and they didn't
10:39:42 store toothpicks in the garage, because they're there
10:39:45 wouldn't be room for toothpicks, if you went to visit, there
10:39:49 is nowhere to park.
10:39:51 On Gray Street and Fig Street are narrow, old narrow city
10:39:55 streets.
10:39:56 They are like two lanes.
10:39:57 (Bell sounds)
10:40:00 My time is up.
10:40:01 It's commercial in the area.
10:40:02 You have semis going through there.
10:40:04 And it's just not sufficient parking.
10:40:07 Reduce townhouses.
10:40:11 They are attractive but you have got to be able to park and
10:40:13 provide the guest parking per code.
10:40:15 Thank you.
10:40:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir. Anyone else in the public
10:40:18 like to speak at this time?
10:40:19 Sir, come forward.
10:40:20 >> Carl Schmitt, I am a resident of the neighborhood.
10:40:27 I'm very invested.
10:40:29 I am on the border of the North Hyde Park alliance.
10:40:32 Board.
10:40:33 I'm also the neighborhood coordinator for the neighborhood.
10:40:36 I have been there about 12 years.
10:40:38 And we are in support of this development.
10:40:42 We are in support of townhouses coming in, instead of
10:40:45 apartments.
10:40:46 We have seen NOHO.
10:40:48 All these apartment buildings are come in, and people are
10:40:51 coming in and out depending on when school is in session.
10:40:55 Mainly UT, in our neighborhood.
10:40:59 So it's a lot of flow of people going in and out.
10:41:02 And we really would like to see more permanent residential
10:41:07 invested in the area.
10:41:08 I am having a hard time getting a lot of people involved
10:41:10 with the neighborhood watch mainly because they are just
10:41:12 coming in.
10:41:13 When school is out they leave.
10:41:15 So we want projects that come into the area, townhomes for
10:41:21 people to stay in the area.
10:41:24 Thank you.
10:41:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
10:41:25 Anyone else?
10:41:26 Yes, sir.
10:41:26 >> Jim McCarthy, 1317 West Woodlawn Avenue.
10:41:35 I'm here tonight to support the project.
10:41:38 I'm a local home builder.
10:41:41 We built in the North Hyde Park area, areas that we build
10:41:48 N.when we first went north of Kennedy people thought we were
10:41:51 insane because we are a single-family, and we target
10:41:54 families.
10:41:55 We target families.
10:41:59 And to see the townhouses with fee simple, Lennar, the
10:42:04 apartments, and now some condos, this design is truly the
10:42:07 future.
10:42:08 This is what young millennials want is this style.
10:42:12 It's frustrating for me because I have known representative
10:42:18 Mike since the University of South Florida.
10:42:20 And Mayor Buckhorn talked about the talent that we have in
10:42:23 this town.
10:42:24 And I'm just so proud of him.
10:42:26 Whatever what happens tonight, this guy is an all-star.
10:42:30 The ironic thing was he worked diligently to try to save
10:42:34 that church.
10:42:34 He's done more redactive use than any guy in town.
10:42:38 You should see what he's done in St. Petersburg with the
10:42:41 Euclid school.
10:42:42 We built 13 houses around it.
10:42:45 It's amazing.
10:42:46 This guy is talented.
10:42:50 And I worked with staff.
10:42:57 But boy oh boy, this is the kind of stuff you really want.
10:43:01 Honestly.
10:43:02 They talked about the colonnade and the views of downtown.
10:43:05 Can you imagine rooftop looking over, the views of downtown
10:43:12 and minarets?
10:43:13 Can you imagine the minarets every plan walked in here
10:43:17 tonight and trade to get the minarets approved?
10:43:20 It's a lot of -- it's a lot of real estate and a little
10:43:26 footprint.
10:43:27 They don't have the beauty of a block.
10:43:30 It's a tiny peace of real estate.
10:43:32 But with great product, great design, I assure you, these
10:43:36 guys will work hard, and the demand is there for millennials
10:43:41 to buy this type of project.
10:43:43 Thank you.
10:43:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:43:45 Anyone else?
10:43:49 Is there anyone else that would like to speak?
10:43:51 You might want to help us out by standing up and letting us
10:43:54 know that you want to speak.
10:43:55 >> My name is Thomas Cain, 2106 west Carmen.
10:43:59 So we are neighbors of the previous gentleman.
10:44:01 I'm also speaking in support of this project.
10:44:04 This is exactly what the community needs versus an huge
10:44:07 development that's multifamily rental product versus home
10:44:11 ownership, create a community that we are looking for in
10:44:15 this neighborhood, versus another project where there's no
10:44:20 home ownership and connection to the neighborhood.
10:44:22 The community is in support of this project.
10:44:24 You saw the picture of all the neighboring lots that support
10:44:27 this project along with community members that live there
10:44:29 and have a invested interest in the product.
10:44:32 You saw from the renderings the great lag great.
10:44:36 I'm not concerned about the lack of trees.
10:44:38 I think they are going to do a great job with some of the
10:44:42 landscaping in the front.
10:44:44 But they are going to be spending $33,000 to go towards the
10:44:48 tree fund.
10:44:49 So the last point I want to make is I'm a little bit
10:44:52 disappointed, in my personal opinion, with the staff bias
10:44:55 towards the petitioner, in my personal opinion.
10:44:58 I feel there should be a presentation of the staff do you
10:45:01 guys, not their own opinion towards how they feel the
10:45:04 project should go, in my personal opinion.
10:45:06 So thank you for your time.
10:45:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:45:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I guess you gentlemen R of you, so
10:45:14 domain don't have adequate parking?
10:45:17 Is that what you are saying, sir?
10:45:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You are addressing it to Mr. McCarthy.
10:45:21 Do you want --
10:45:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm just making a statement what he
10:45:25 said.
10:45:25 He said that he's in favor of this project 110%, I guess he
10:45:29 said.
10:45:30 And so then I'm assuming that you would then build homes
10:45:33 without adequate parking?
10:45:35 >> No, we build single-family homes.
10:45:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I understand that.
10:45:39 And then the other point that I heard -- and I would say
10:45:47 those trees, they are not on my property.
10:45:50 No, you didn't say that.
10:45:51 No, you did not.
10:45:57 I remember what I heard, I thought, how is that possible?
10:46:01 Houdini couldn't do that.
10:46:02 >> Mary Daniels, and I have been sworn.
10:46:10 Off-site trees, you are required in the technical manual to
10:46:16 provide adequate protective radius for those trees to
10:46:19 remain.
10:46:20 And you are required.
10:46:23 And you don't get credit for that.
10:46:25 You must save those trees.
10:46:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anything around your property you have
10:46:30 to treat as if it's your own but you can't get credit for
10:46:34 it?
10:46:35 >> That's correct.
10:46:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Anything else, sir?
10:46:38 Okay.
10:46:39 Any other people of that would like to speak at this time,
10:46:41 any member of the public that has not already spoken, please
10:46:43 come forward.
10:46:45 All right.
10:46:46 Mr. Bentley, close.
10:46:47 >>MARK BENTLEY: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
10:46:50 Just to clarify a few points is that in terms of their
10:46:53 density bonus, talking about the two units, we had an option
10:46:58 when we filed for the plan amendment at that point in time,
10:47:02 the City Council just enacted a new category, GMU 35.
10:47:06 About 35 units per acre and a floor area ratio of 1.25.
10:47:11 So unfortunately the city hadn't enacted land development
10:47:15 regulations to implement that and didn't anticipate to do so
10:47:18 until early this year.
10:47:20 So we are talking about last Christmas.
10:47:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: May I ask?
10:47:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Stop the time.
10:47:28 Yes, ma'am.
10:47:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Every time you say that, there's a lot
10:47:31 of flurry over there.
10:47:33 So can we have the Planning Commission -- and I'm sorry, Mr.
10:47:39 Suarez.
10:47:39 When they are over there --
10:47:44 >> I apologize for my reaction.
10:47:45 But I just wanted to clarify.
10:47:50 I think he stated GMU 35.
10:47:53 And the newly created category NMU, neighborhood mixed use.
10:47:58 And there's three of them in different densities at these
10:48:03 plan amendment I presented, just a few weeks ago, over on
10:48:09 North Boulevard, one of those went to a neighborhood mixed
10:48:11 use, 35, I believe.
10:48:13 That mate jog your memory about what that category is.
10:48:17 I just wanted to clarify.
10:48:19 I'm sorry, Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff.
10:48:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So what you are talking about and what
10:48:31 he's given them fits when you say it, can somebody explain
10:48:35 why what you seem to be saying and --
10:48:39 >> Okay, responding to a question that doesn't cut into my
10:48:42 time.
10:48:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I will allow you to go ahead and respond to
10:48:45 her question.
10:48:45 Go ahead.
10:48:46 >>MARK BENTLEY: Thank you.
10:48:47 I misstated.
10:48:49 I said GMU.
10:48:50 I meant NMU.
10:48:52 So we have an option without dealing with the development
10:48:54 agreement or going over 35 units per acre.
10:48:59 But that category like I said, the code hadn't been amended
10:49:02 yet so at this point in time, roughly last Christmas, we
10:49:06 said we'll opt for the CMU 35, went through the planned
10:49:09 amendment process.
10:49:11 You all approved it.
10:49:12 And we had obviously spent this kind of time and money with
10:49:17 the property.
10:49:18 We had said it was an issue in meeting the criteria so we
10:49:24 felt comfortable that we met the criteria.
10:49:27 And Rebecca has a development agreement, and your code says
10:49:31 in terms of the bonus, says adaptive use, or replacement
10:49:35 with the use.
10:49:37 That's what we are seeking.
10:49:39 Not to get a grossly incompatible use.
10:49:44 So that's a misstatement about that.
10:49:46 Now here back to the height issue again.
10:49:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right, sir, does that answer your
10:49:51 question or do you have another question before I start the
10:49:53 time?
10:49:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I think maybe it's the
10:49:56 misstatement of his saying that GMU.
10:50:01 >> Yes.
10:50:02 I met NMU.
10:50:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the taming of when the NMU was
10:50:09 presented, and when you were going through the middle.
10:50:12 >> Here is the thing.
10:50:15 NMU was created last fall, 2015.
10:50:18 But the city didn't implement the Land Development Code
10:50:21 change until May of this year.
10:50:23 So at the time we applied, we looked at our options, and we
10:50:28 vetted CMU 35, and these are the criteria we saw, and there
10:50:33 was no actually objection to that.
10:50:36 When we got into some of these waivers, then we started
10:50:39 getting objections, you know.
10:50:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I get it.
10:50:43 >>MARK BENTLEY: You get it?
10:50:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And we are going to continue your rebuttal.
10:50:48 Start your time again, sir.
10:50:50 How much time do I have?
10:50:51 >> clerk, how much time does he have?
10:50:54 Representative.
10:50:54 >>THE CLERK: Four and a half minutes.
10:50:58 >> This is an elevation with the city.
10:51:00 As mentioned the height of the rooftop is 3-foot 10 pinches
10:51:03 then you have about 3 feet, the terrace and E-wall.
10:51:07 Then you have this covering the stairwell right here.
10:51:10 Okay?
10:51:11 So across the street it's 55 feet.
10:51:13 So our project if you add this to the roof is about 39 feet.
10:51:19 I just want to clarify that.
10:51:22 The apartments, if he did them, he could have more
10:51:25 obviously.
10:51:25 These units are going to be in the magnitude of 2,000 square
10:51:28 feet apartments.
10:51:29 Not that big.
10:51:31 Lack of parking.
10:51:32 I gave you a list of the other projects that received
10:51:35 waivers.
10:51:36 We are requesting 13%.
10:51:38 NOHO received from council 29.
10:51:41 Havana square 15.
10:51:43 Back to the Heights, here again, all these other Heights are
10:51:46 substantially higher than this project.
10:51:49 The setbacks, we meet all the setbacks, exceed them actually
10:51:52 around the entire perimeter of the project, setback Fig
10:51:55 Street.
10:51:56 And your code says you have to look at historic use.
10:51:59 The criteria to establish the setback.
10:52:01 And the church was 5.5 feet.
10:52:03 From Fig.
10:52:05 Okay.
10:52:05 That's the historical use.
10:52:07 And the code says if it's vacant land you look at the
10:52:09 historical use.
10:52:11 Then on the west side of Oregon, you have the NOHO project
10:52:18 off of Fig Street so we are consistent.
10:52:21 The 205 feet, the number of units, your code says the
10:52:24 development says the intent here is that shall be compatible
10:52:27 with surrounding development.
10:52:29 We are 5 feet longer than authorized by the code.
10:52:33 Okay.
10:52:34 And then your code puts a limit on townhomes and not
10:52:38 apartments of 8.
10:52:39 But if you look at other projects surrounding us, a lot
10:52:44 of -- a lot more units than 10 on some of these projects no
10:52:48 row.
10:52:48 Okay.
10:52:49 So it's kind of a distinction without a difference.
10:52:51 We have to be doing townhomes.
10:52:58 The parking, we couldn't show it on the plan.
10:53:00 But like the other projects there, have received waivers, we
10:53:03 intend to construct parking spaces.
10:53:06 Around the periphery of the project, we have additional room
10:53:11 outside the property line, about two to three feet.
10:53:15 We were told by natural resources that all you need was 6
10:53:21 feet to plant something.
10:53:23 Okay?
10:53:23 So we have more than 6 feet around the entire perimeter of
10:53:26 the property.
10:53:27 And obviously on the lot 2 and 3 with a single-family is
10:53:31 going to be located.
10:53:38 So here again, we are just looking for equal treatment here.
10:53:41 We have designed this project, actually to request fewer
10:53:46 significant waivers than any project I think that's been
10:53:49 presented to council based on my researching, presenting
10:53:52 this case for the last few months.
10:53:54 So in all these other projects here, I think council just
10:54:00 approved one, the Richmond couple days ago, or I think maybe
10:54:04 this month, the green space waiver with 61%, and they paid
10:54:08 into the city general fund, I guess, 353,000 dollars.
10:54:12 Okay.
10:54:12 Ours is 38% and we are paying the city $35,000.
10:54:18 So relative to the other projects that have come through
10:54:21 recently, before council, ours is really at the low end of
10:54:26 the scale.
10:54:27 In terms of our parking reduction, ours is lesser than the
10:54:30 other two most recent projects here.
10:54:35 In terms of the height, we are on the low end of the scale
10:54:38 here.
10:54:38 And I guess if you are going to add the 3 feet knee wall,
10:54:42 you could call that, 40 feet.
10:54:47 We worked really hard, you know.
10:54:49 It's pretty difficult, these constraints of the West Tampa
10:54:53 overlay as well as applying the code that hasn't been
10:54:56 amended in a long time in terms of some of these green space
10:54:59 requirements.
10:54:59 We reached out to the community. Virtually -- I showed you
10:55:02 a map.
10:55:02 Virtually every property owner surrounding is in support.
10:55:05 If I misspoke, Mr. Cohen, we spoke to, I guess, his brother
10:55:10 and they said they had no objection. I want to clear up. I
10:55:13 don't want to misstate a position of a property owner.
10:55:16 So we think it's a very good project.
10:55:18 We would really appreciate your consideration and approval
10:55:20 tonight.
10:55:21 Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
10:55:22 I hope that I make it through item 13.
10:55:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I want to make one observation.
10:55:31 If everything that I heard is factual on both sides, that's
10:55:36 it, it's factual on both sides, pro and con, everything is
10:55:40 factual, there's only one document that states in my mind.
10:55:47 Abbye Feeley brought up about units per acre.
10:55:51 That was the highest that we have approved is 20.
10:55:54 Am I correct?
10:55:56 I'm talking to Mrs. Feeley.
10:55:58 >>ABBYE FEELEY: This is --
10:56:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Or the average, whatever it was.
10:56:13 >> I calculated each of them independently.
10:56:17 This one will be coming before you.
10:56:18 It was adjusts filed last month.
10:56:21 So if you take that out.
10:56:23 Lennar construction is 18 dwelling units to the acre.
10:56:29 The first phase of Lennar. This was all part of the
10:56:32 original west end, VO 6-77.
10:56:36 16.5.
10:56:37 The one you just did on south of here on Rome that had the
10:56:40 retail in the front, I take out the retail component, they
10:56:44 were still at 20 dwelling units to the acre.
10:56:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We don't follow theory, but in theory, I
10:56:51 guess, if this petition was to come in with 20, it would
10:56:56 meet all the -- everything would go away?
10:57:02 And the objections?
10:57:06 >> In theory if they dropped the density they would have the
10:57:08 ability to meet the code.
10:57:10 >> Every obligation they need would be met?
10:57:13 >>ABBYE FEELEY: The other projects that Mr. Bentley is
10:57:14 referring to are multifamily.
10:57:17 These are single-family attached.
10:57:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I am staying away from all of that.
10:57:22 Everything he said I agree W.everything you guys said I
10:57:24 agree W.but there's only one definition for me to pass, in
10:57:27 my vote.
10:57:31 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Yes, this is almost at 18, they want 32.
10:57:36 When I calculated the density.
10:57:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's all I want to know.
10:57:39 Thank you.
10:57:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions from council at this
10:57:43 time?
10:57:43 >> Could I make one comment?
10:57:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No.
10:57:47 I'm sorry.
10:57:48 If someone wants to ask you a question, that's feign.
10:57:51 You have made your presentation.
10:57:52 Mrs. Feeley, I would like to ask as part of the record if I
10:57:59 could.
10:58:02 If you don't mind, and we'll accept that for the record.
10:58:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, if I may, respectfully,
10:58:09 Mr. Bentley, I suspect, would want to be able to address
10:58:15 what was just elicited on rebuttal.
10:58:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I know, but I have got other questions right
10:58:20 here.
10:58:21 Let's gore through the process.
10:58:23 And Mr. Bentley, let us go through the process.
10:58:25 Mrs. Capin, off question?
10:58:27 Do you or no?
10:58:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: [Off microphone.]
10:58:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Bentley, why don't you go ahead to your
10:58:39 rebuttal because we want to make sure you are satisfied.
10:58:43 >>MARK BENTLEY: I didn't realize it was such a significant
10:58:45 distinction because our product is fee simple ownership
10:58:48 which the community has embraced.
10:58:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: But Mr. Bentley --
10:58:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Mrs. Feeley, when you pointed out those 20,
10:59:01 they are single-family?
10:59:03 What you pointed out those are single-family?
10:59:06 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Those are fee simple that he's requesting.
10:59:09 Equivalent to -- fee simple townhomes.
10:59:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
10:59:14 That was my question.
10:59:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
10:59:22 One more thing won't hurt us.
10:59:24 Go ahead.
10:59:24 >> I do apologize for having to get up this evening but I do
10:59:29 want to remind City Council and remember that the audience
10:59:31 may not be aware that it's not the ownership that is
10:59:38 relevant to your decision taint.
10:59:41 And I understand.
10:59:41 I totally understand the point.
10:59:44 I know you understand the point.
10:59:45 But it's not for a land use decision whether it's owned or
10:59:48 rented.
10:59:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Before you start, Mr. Bentley, any
10:59:53 questions?
10:59:55 Okay.
10:59:55 Mr. Bentley, you can deal with the issue that she raised.
11:00:00 >>MARK BENTLEY: Really interesting issues is the way the
11:00:03 city deals with density, they make a distinction between
11:00:07 ownership.
11:00:07 Okay?
11:00:09 You noticed in the graphic right there, several of these
11:00:13 property projects, virtually all of them on the list here,
11:00:16 had companion development agreements and most of them were
11:00:20 CMU 35.
11:00:21 They got a development agreement.
11:00:22 But they were apartments at 35 units per acre.
11:00:26 So notably, for example, on the schematic, as Mrs. Feeley
11:00:30 showed you, the project directly to the west, NOHO flats,
11:00:33 was approved within a development agreement at 35 units per
11:00:36 acre.
11:00:37 So I don't really understand why apartments, the city would
11:00:41 endorse the higher density for apartments than for fee
11:00:44 simple ownership.
11:00:45 It really doesn't make any sense.
11:00:47 Your attorney says really you don't need to consider the
11:00:50 tape of ownership.
11:00:52 Okay?
11:00:52 So if this is an apartment, I guess we wouldn't be having
11:00:57 this conversation because you have approved 35 units per
11:01:00 acre to development agreements for most of these other
11:01:02 projects and that's the pointed I wanted to make.
11:01:04 Thank you.
11:01:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Today peen has a question.
11:01:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Mrs. Kert, when you mentioned that, I
11:01:11 understand that.
11:01:12 I just wanted to make sure we were comparing apples to ales.
11:01:15 That was it.
11:01:16 >>REBECCA KERT: I understand.
11:01:19 But I just wanted to make it clear for the record.
11:01:21 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
11:01:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other comments or questions from
11:01:25 council?
11:01:25 Okay.
11:01:26 We have already gone to the public.
11:01:29 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak?
11:01:31 I want to make sure we are clear on that.
11:01:34 You are not part of the public, sir.
11:01:36 You are an interested party.
11:01:37 Okay?
11:01:39 Do I have a motion to close?
11:01:41 I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione.
11:01:42 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:01:45 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
11:01:47 Any opposed?
11:01:49 Mr. Reddick, you are next up if you would like to take item
11:01:52 number 12.
11:01:53 If not.
11:01:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'll take it before I fall asleep here.
11:01:59 I move an ordinance being presented for first reading
11:02:02 consideration, an ordinance rezoning property in the general
11:02:07 vicinity of 1330, 1332, 1338 and 1340 West Gray Street, 401,
11:02:16 403, and 405 north Oregon Avenue and 1323, 1325, 1327, 1330
11:02:30 and 1502 west Fig Street in the city of Tampa, Florida, and
11:02:34 more particularly described in section 1 from zoning
11:02:36 district classification RS-50 residential single-family and
11:02:39 IG industrial general to PD planned development, dwelling,
11:02:43 single-family attached, semi-detached and detached,
11:02:47 providing an effective date.
11:02:47 >> Second.
11:02:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick.
11:02:51 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:02:53 All in favor of that motion?
11:02:56 Opposed?
11:02:56 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried with Miranda and Suarez
11:03:02 voting no, and Cohen being absent at vote.
11:03:08 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
11:03:11 9:30 a.m.
11:03:12 >> Thank you very much.
11:03:16 You have been very gracious with your time.
11:03:22 Number 13.
11:03:23 >> Oh, yeah.
11:03:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If you don't want us to do it, that's all
11:03:27 right, Mr. Bentley.
11:03:28 >> No, no, no.
11:03:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Reddick?
11:03:37 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
11:03:38 This is the accompanying development agreement that allows
11:03:41 the bonus density to take place.
11:03:44 You do not need to take any action tonight with regards to
11:03:48 the public hearing.
11:03:49 We have already spoken about the three things, compatible
11:03:54 mixed use development, adaptation, or replacement of use of
11:03:58 lesser intensity and the provision of a transit stop.
11:04:03 As well as Land Development Code since you passed the
11:04:06 rezoning.
11:04:07 You have determined that it meets land development
11:04:09 regulations.
11:04:10 And I did want to clarify because there has been some
11:04:12 discussion earlier on about what the intensity increase was
11:04:17 and whether it was dwelling units, and this agreement
11:04:20 actually provides for a 1.39 F.A.R., or 31 total dwelling
11:04:26 units.
11:04:27 So if he was able to get more dwelling units in there under
11:04:30 that F.A.R., this is an "or."
11:04:33 So to be limited to the dwelling units and need to be a
11:04:36 change in the development agreement.
11:04:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Terrific.
11:04:40 Petitioner?
11:04:41 >>MARK BENTLEY: 201 North Franklin Street representing
11:04:45 applicant concerning what Rebecca just mentioned, the either
11:04:49 or, F.A.R. or density.
11:04:51 We would strike that paragraph, Rebecca, before final
11:04:54 reading.
11:04:55 So it's actually just the density shown as the 31 units per
11:04:59 acre, and explain to council it's actually 30.3.
11:05:02 If you have any questions.
11:05:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:05:05 Any questions from council at this time?
11:05:06 Mrs. Montelione.
11:05:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And this may have been relevant, but
11:05:18 what Mrs. Feeley had said about not enclosing -- yeah, it's
11:05:25 too late.
11:05:25 We can't put that in the development agreement because we
11:05:27 didn't put it -- yeah.
11:05:30 I'm sorry.
11:05:31 My pain in my back --
11:05:33 >>MARK BENTLEY: We'll voluntarily stipulate when you see
11:05:35 this --
11:05:36 >> We can't.
11:05:37 We closed the hearing.
11:05:38 >>MARK BENTLEY: No, we are having a conversation now, the
11:05:41 word of our client is they'll make that clear on the final
11:05:44 site plan.
11:05:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We can't.
11:05:54 We can't read the ordinance and then add that as a
11:05:57 condition.
11:05:58 >>MARK BENTLEY: It was --
11:06:00 >>LISA MONTELIONE: To put it on the site plan we would have
11:06:02 to reopen the hearing, reread the ordinance and add that as
11:06:05 a condition.
11:06:05 >> Elevation filed with staff -- excuse me.
11:06:10 I'm saying those are the elevations of record.
11:06:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The elevation RS aren't important.
11:06:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Any other questions of council of the
11:06:20 petitioner at this time?
11:06:21 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on
11:06:24 item number 13?
11:06:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move to close.
11:06:28 >> Second.
11:06:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion to close -- you have to read.
11:06:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: November 3rd.
11:06:35 >>REBECCA KERT: On the resolution, it's approved at second
11:06:47 reading but wave to have two public hearings.
11:06:49 >> Move the close the public hearing and announce the date
11:06:54 of the second reading.
11:06:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We have a motion to close from Mr. Miranda.
11:06:58 Second from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:07:00 All in favor of that motion?
11:07:01 Any opposed?
11:07:03 Mr. Reddick?
11:07:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: The clerk can just announce because it's
11:07:09 already been set.
11:07:10 >>THE CLERK: For the record the second public hearing on
11:07:14 this item will be on November 3rd at 9:30 a.m.
11:07:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:07:19 Item number 14.
11:07:49 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land development.
11:07:53 It's my obligation to tell you on the one for NOHO you need
11:07:56 to go back and adopt a revision sheet of some sort.
11:08:00 There were modifications to be made between first and second
11:08:03 reading.
11:08:04 No revision sheet was provided.
11:08:06 I don't know what I would be certifying now in between first
11:08:08 and second reading to make that.
11:08:12 So I think a minimum we should go back and open it to
11:08:15 address the revisions that are in the report.
11:08:22 I think it's going to be a problem.
11:08:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman.
11:08:28 I think what would be appropriate at this point is for
11:08:31 Mr. Bentley to agree to that, have no objection and allow
11:08:35 that to be done.
11:08:36 >>MARK BENTLEY: That's feign.
11:08:37 The waivers set forth in staff report?
11:08:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: We would need to reopen the public
11:08:42 hearing.
11:08:42 >> Move to reopen the public hearing.
11:08:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: On number 12.
11:08:47 >> Second.
11:08:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: A motion by Mrs. Montelione.
11:08:51 A second by Mrs. Capin.
11:08:53 All in favor?
11:08:54 Any opposed?
11:08:54 Mrs. Feeley, if you could, at this time, state what it is
11:08:57 that you want us to do.
11:08:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The hearing is reopen.
11:09:03 We can redo the ordinance with the stipulation that the
11:09:07 rooftop deck, there would be no enclosure or living space,
11:09:11 and that would remain open space.
11:09:15 As was suggested earlier.
11:09:19 Right?
11:09:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let's clear up one thing at a time.
11:09:22 If that's all right with you, Mrs. Feeley, we'll clear up
11:09:25 this piece now.
11:09:26 Mr. Bentley, is that agreeable to you as Mrs. Montelione
11:09:30 stated? Pent.
11:09:32 >>MARK BENTLEY: Yes, sir, it is.
11:09:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You have stipulated to that.
11:09:39 The second part, Mrs. Feeley.
11:09:41 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Okay.
11:09:44 The waivers needed to be revised as per table 1 as per page
11:09:50 1 on the site plan.
11:09:53 Where just a moment.
11:10:00 There was a revision sheet.
11:10:02 Let me go back.
11:10:02 There was a revision sheet on pages 16 and 17 of your
11:10:06 report, stated revise the waiver table, revise the parking
11:10:11 table to reflect total of 83 spaces required, revise the
11:10:14 required multifamily green space from 12,950 to 12,250, add
11:10:22 a note related to the sidewalks being on grade and shifted
11:10:24 to provide the 6-foot canopy tree in the right-of-way,
11:10:29 provide the tree table, remove the palm trees from the
11:10:32 credits in the table, the credits to reflect the three
11:10:35 canopy trees, add a waiver to reduce the required landscape
11:10:39 from 20 to 18, add a waiver to reduce the required
11:10:43 multifamily green space, put the following waiver on for the
11:10:48 backup width from 6 to zero, the code requires that the
11:10:52 driveways have a minimum of a 10-foot flair so those need to
11:10:56 go on and the site plan needs to be modified to show the
11:11:00 larger flair, that Jonathan provided, the illustrations for
11:11:06 that.
11:11:06 The following waivers for the overlay.
11:11:10 Also they needed on lot 3 to indicate the location of
11:11:13 structure and roof overhangs on the neighboring properties
11:11:16 to the east and the mention the distance from the overhang
11:11:20 to the face of the proposed structure, and then provide the
11:11:24 connectivity to the street at the corner with the required
11:11:27 ADA combination.
11:11:30 Accommodation.
11:11:31 They recommended that be done on all corners.
11:11:34 Then in relation to the roof, I believe on MacDill it
11:11:40 was put that there can be no enclosure that space must
11:11:43 remain open.
11:11:45 There was also equipment for mechanical, electrical and
11:11:48 plumbing, as far as having refrigerators up there.
11:11:50 The other statement I want to make that was of great concern
11:11:53 to me, Mr. Bentley indicated that it was a 36-inch parapet,
11:11:57 and per fire code I do not believe that you can have 36
11:11:59 inches is adequate to ensure that people do not fall off if
11:12:04 that is an occupiable space.
11:12:06 So I would need to double check that in between first and
11:12:09 second reading.
11:12:11 He can submit to that.
11:12:12 If I go back to fire and it's more than 36 inches, code
11:12:14 allows actually for 5-foot parapet to be placed without any
11:12:19 sort of waiver.
11:12:19 But when that statement was made, I had concern at 45 feet
11:12:23 that people were occupying that space that had not been
11:12:26 reviewed by staff previously.
11:12:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You have a question?
11:12:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That would be addressed when they.
11:12:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: All right.
11:12:39 Is it a legal matter or just pass the revision sheet or do
11:12:42 we have to read the whole thing again?
11:12:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, I would just ask the maker
11:12:47 of the motion, the title has already been read.
11:12:50 Just to reaffirm adopt the motion, move to amend the motion
11:12:57 to add the revisions as directed by the staff.
11:12:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do we need to make sure that it's stipulated
11:13:04 by the other counsel?
11:13:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I believe counsel has stated that on the
11:13:09 record.
11:13:10 >>MARK BENTLEY: We agree to the provisions and agree to
11:13:12 meet code with respect to the fire -- the height of the
11:13:15 wall.
11:13:16 >> [Off microphone.]
11:13:21 >>MARK BENTLEY: Oh, yes, on the record, will be enclosed.
11:13:27 We will put that on the program.
11:13:28 No problem.
11:13:29 Thank you.
11:13:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We need a motion to close.
11:13:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So moved.
11:13:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Second?
11:13:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione, a second
11:13:36 from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:13:38 All in favor of that motion?
11:13:39 Any opposed?
11:13:40 Mr. Reddick, if could you make those revision remarks for
11:13:44 this particular item.
11:13:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
11:13:47 All right.
11:13:47 And make a motion to amend item number 12 to include the
11:13:54 revisions outlined by staff, and also the recommendation
11:14:01 stipulated by the petitioner, and whatever else that was
11:14:05 discussed, all those being included, and I make that motion.
11:14:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The seconder will accept it, Mr. Maniscalco,
11:14:15 sir.
11:14:15 All in favor of that motion indicate by saying aye.
11:14:18 Opposed?
11:14:19 Nay.
11:14:19 >>THE CLERK: The motion carried with Miranda and Suarez
11:14:24 voting no.
11:14:25 Cohen being absent at vote.
11:14:27 Again, second reading and adoption will be on November
11:14:29 3rd at 9:30 a.m.
11:14:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:14:32 Okay.
11:14:34 Now we are onto number 14.
11:14:39 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Number 14.
11:14:41 Land Development Coordination.
11:14:42 The request before you tonight is REZ 16-62 at 2851 West
11:14:48 Gandy Boulevard.
11:14:50 And the request is from CG commercial general to PD planned
11:14:54 development, residential, single-family attached.
11:14:56 >> Jennifer Malone, Planning Commission staff.
11:15:04 We are down in the South Tampa planning district taint.
11:15:10 There is a transit station two blocks west at MacDill
11:15:13 Avenue and Gandy Boulevard, and level B evacuation zone.
11:15:18 There is the aerial of the site.
11:15:23 This is Bayshore Boulevard.
11:15:25 Gandy Boulevard.
11:15:26 This is the veterinarian's clinic right here and then the
11:15:31 house of ribs located in this vicinity.
11:15:33 And this is the subject site.
11:15:37 There is the future land use map.
11:15:39 This is residential 10 in the orange.
11:15:43 This is community mixed use 35 in this pink.
11:15:47 And then once again we have Bayshore and Gandy.
11:15:49 The comprehensive plan does encourage the development and
11:15:53 retention of this type of housing.
11:15:58 Tampa's population.
11:15:59 Overall this was found to be comparable and compatible with
11:16:02 the adjoining neighborhood and we found it consistent with
11:16:06 the comprehensive plan.
11:16:07 I'm available for any questions.
11:16:09 >>HARRY COHEN: Any questions by council members?
11:16:13 Seeing none, Mrs. Feeley?
11:16:23 >>ABBYE FEELEY: My pictures may have fallen out.
11:16:30 Abbye Feeley, Land Development Coordination.
11:16:33 The request before you tonight has two waivers, and that is
11:16:36 to section 13-165 to allow payment in lieu to the tree trust
11:16:41 fund for trees not mitigated on-site, and the second is to
11:16:45 allow for alternative building design which permits the
11:16:48 ground floor entrances of the nine units in the northern
11:16:52 portion, northern two buildings to face a rear yard and not
11:16:55 a right-of-way.
11:16:57 Or street.
11:16:58 The petitioner is proposing to have rezone from CG to PD to
11:17:02 construct 18 single-family attached units.
11:17:07 The .87-acre property is approximately three lots west of
11:17:12 Bayshore, and the intersection of Bayshore and Gandy.
11:17:16 The site is surrounded by an apartment development, the
11:17:20 medical office and restaurant to the south.
11:17:23 Vacant property to the west within the CG district and two
11:17:26 detached single-family dwellings to the north in the RS-60.
11:17:31 The project will have four town home style buildings that
11:17:34 are four stories with a two-car garage for each unit.
11:17:37 The proposed setbacks are as follows: Front, which is the
11:17:41 south along Gandy, 20 feet.
11:17:44 Rear, north, 30 feet.
11:17:46 Side, east and west, are both 8 feet.
11:17:49 The proposed building height is 49 feet.
11:17:52 A total of 41 parking spaces including guest spaces are
11:17:56 required and a total of 41 spaces are being provided through
11:18:00 a combination of garages and surface parking.
11:18:04 Vehicular access will be off West Gandy.
11:18:06 The principal building entries for the southern two
11:18:09 buildings are oriented toward West Gandy.
11:18:12 Vehicular access in the rear of each unit.
11:18:14 Conversely the principal building entries to the northern
11:18:18 two buildings are oriented toward the rear property line and
11:18:20 therefore require approval of a waiver to section 27-282.9
11:18:26 as indicated on page 1.
11:18:28 The property was the subject of VRB 16-2467 period heard at
11:18:34 the May 10th review board hearing.
11:18:37 The request was to reduce the rear yard from 47.13 to 20.
11:18:41 The rear yard from 50 to 12 to 20 and the west yard to 7.
11:18:46 And the east yard from 34.13 to 8 with the allotted
11:18:51 encroachment of the gutters.
11:18:52 The board did deny the request finding there was no hardship
11:18:55 under section 27-80 as stipulated in the code.
11:19:01 I will go ahead and show you the site.
11:19:05 And I am wondering where my photos are.
11:19:07 Here is the aerial of the property.
11:19:11 Gandy to the south.
11:19:12 Bayshore to the east.
11:19:15 There is the vacant piece to the west.
11:19:21 This is single-family attached here.
11:19:27 Maybe I can and sea if I feigned my other photos there.
11:19:33 As Jennifer mentioned, the Gandy animal clinic, Cook's, yes,
11:19:42 co-jack sounds familiar, other residential types within the
11:19:47 vicinity.
11:19:50 The zoning atlas is along a segment of Gandy Boulevard.
11:19:55 As you are well aware in the commercial general residential
11:19:57 single-family attached and residential multifamily can be
11:20:02 considered through an S-1, special use 1.
11:20:06 The special use 1 means you meet the RM-24 standard.
11:20:11 RM-24 does require that above 30 feet the building is
11:20:16 stepped back.
11:20:18 And we had this discussion, I believe, last month.
11:20:23 I'm trying to remember where we got it.
11:20:26 Oh, we had that discussion on 91 Davis when you reviewed 91
11:20:31 Davis, and the wedding cake effect that you are now very
11:20:35 familiar with.
11:20:36 We had a whole debate on that.
11:20:38 So this property, S-1, would be subject to that wedding cake
11:20:43 effect, and really the PD before you tonight is to get some
11:20:45 relief from that.
11:20:46 However, they have set back the building and the massing,
11:20:50 and staff did find the request consistent.
11:20:55 There are modifications that need to be made between first
11:20:57 and second reading.
11:20:58 That includes revising the waivers, correcting the floor
11:21:02 labels on all of the building elevations, labeling the
11:21:06 buildings as one, two, three, four, reducing the apron width
11:21:12 from 24 feet to 20 on the eastern side, that's at the apron,
11:21:16 and revising the proposed building height to 49 feet.
11:21:20 Natural resources states that the current site plan
11:21:23 indicates the sidewalk adjustments were made that can
11:21:26 reserve two palm trees in the northeastern area of the lot
11:21:29 and one palm in the northwest, palms reserved on the site
11:21:33 plan and update the tree table accordingly.
11:21:36 Lastly stormwater is requesting that the FEMA flood zone
11:21:39 designation be corrected to state AE instead of DE.
11:21:49 I will look for those pictures real quick, but that's it.
11:21:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Petitioner?
11:22:00 >> Mr. Chairman, I have not been sworn in.
11:22:05 >> anyone that has not been sworn in at this time, please
11:22:11 stand and raise your right hand and be sworn in.
11:22:15 .
11:22:15 (Oath administered by Clerk).
11:22:19 >> I do.
11:22:20 I appreciate that.
11:22:21 Good evening, Mr. Chairman and council members.
11:22:23 My name is Victor DiMaio, independent Parkway, suite 195.
11:22:29 I'm here with Mr. Bob sprinkle and Dallas of sprinkling
11:22:33 engineering and my associate is going to be helping me
11:22:37 tonight, Mrs. Kaitlyn McHale, a USF graduate.
11:22:43 Go Bulls.
11:22:44 So I want to go right into the slide show.
11:22:49 Here we go.
11:22:54 Next.
11:22:55 Okay.
11:22:57 We have here a product of multiple coordination in
11:23:01 cooperation with the city staff as well as the neighborhood
11:23:03 residents.
11:23:04 We have worked diligently to preserve the existing grand
11:23:07 trees on the site.
11:23:08 This grand tree canopies occupy over 4 that you square feet.
11:23:12 We are limited from the development of these areas but also
11:23:15 the canopy.
11:23:17 The preserve grand trees are scattered around the property
11:23:19 that has been constrained.
11:23:25 You can't go back?
11:23:28 We started, if you notice, there's big grand trees in this
11:23:33 property, half of which aren't even in our property.
11:23:36 We worked very diligently with the natural resources, with
11:23:39 the department, and we'll get into that later.
11:23:42 I want to make note that we moved these buildings back
11:23:44 several times, mostly to be away from the property to the
11:23:47 north, and to be sensitive to the neighborhood concerns.
11:23:51 I want to note as Abbye said earlier we have a 42-foot
11:23:55 setback in the back away from the neighborhood to the north,
11:23:57 and on one side, and we head down to 30 feet as the closest
11:24:05 area that we have is to satisfy the neighbors' concern about
11:24:10 the setback and being away from their property.
11:24:12 So go ahead to the next slide.
11:24:15 Okay, the subject property as Abbye said here is subject
11:24:19 north side of Gandy west of Bayshore.
11:24:22 It's right across the street from co-jack's house of ribs
11:24:25 and the site is currently zoned -- this includes property on
11:24:31 either side of the subject property.
11:24:33 As stated in the city Planning Commission, by the city
11:24:37 Planning Commission the site is located in a CMU 35 future
11:24:41 land use category of Tampa's comprehensive land use plan
11:24:45 with development along the Gandy corridor.
11:24:49 Some of the characteristics of the 35 land use category
11:24:51 include limited side yard setbacks, Heights that generate
11:24:55 two to five stories, and we are actually asking for four
11:24:57 stories here, facades and entrances that are directly across
11:25:00 the street, residential, nonresidential use as long the
11:25:05 corridor and shared alley access to the parking.
11:25:08 Our site as you heard from Abbye and the Planning Commission
11:25:10 is consistent with the city's comprehensive plan and the
11:25:13 Planning Commission in their report as well.
11:25:16 And I want to take you through a little tour of the little
11:25:19 area we are in.
11:25:20 As you see here, this was the corner of Gandy and Bayshore
11:25:22 Boulevard.
11:25:25 Starting here, and heading west down Gandy. This is as bury
11:25:29 park right on the corner of Bayshore and Gandy.
11:25:33 Next, this is Asbury park.
11:25:39 The next slide we have is homes apartments complex west of
11:25:43 Ashley partner park and cross to the north. This
11:25:46 development is directly east of the proposed Gandy townhomes
11:25:50 with construction in 1990.
11:25:52 Of course this is the famous Kojak house of ribs directly
11:25:58 across from our lot of the Gandy townhouse project.
11:26:01 As you know, COJACK was built in 1927.
11:26:08 And I will be presenting you a copy in support of our
11:26:12 project later on.
11:26:14 Continuing down the street here are several commercial uses
11:26:16 including Bayshore animal clinic, cook's restaurant,
11:26:20 continuing west are several additional single-family
11:26:23 attached developments. This is Hanson manor constructed in
11:26:27 2003. This is the Bayshore palms constructed in 2000.
11:26:31 And a trailer park on the north side of Gandy just before
11:26:36 MacDill.
11:26:38 Mobile homes.
11:26:40 Manufacturers houses, right
11:26:42 Maybe that may the next to be developed, hopefully.
11:26:49 Townhomes will be a valuable addition to the city.
11:26:51 Here you can see a rendering.
11:26:53 And we have another picture that you can see of the project.
11:26:55 It meets housing, the needs not requiring retention of
11:27:00 runways.
11:27:01 It's within walking distance of restaurants, neighborhood
11:27:03 shopping and the Hartline route.
11:27:05 Because it located on Gandy, which is on an ulterior roadway
11:27:11 it provides access to downtown Tampa and Westshore business
11:27:15 district, and MacDill Air Force Base, and not only to
11:27:18 preserve the natural resources and natural beauty of the
11:27:21 site but to make them an integral part of the development.
11:27:24 This is located in an area of Gandy Boulevard that is
11:27:27 populated by offices, restaurants, shopping, mobile home
11:27:29 development and multifamily development.
11:27:32 It is consistent and compatible with existing developments
11:27:36 on all sides.
11:27:37 Additionally we have gone through extraordinary measures to
11:27:39 accommodate with a single-family lots to the north.
11:27:43 The living environment proposed for Gandy townhomes has been
11:27:47 carefully researched and provides the hail desirable living
11:27:50 environment for young professionals.
11:27:51 The location and easy access are bonuses to the make the
11:27:56 development attractive.
11:27:57 Gandy town home offers choice of benefits of many on-site
11:28:01 grand trees as I mentioned at the beginning.
11:28:04 In addition to providing extraordinary amenities they
11:28:07 provide challenges to the site development.
11:28:09 We have worked very closely with the city staff to not only
11:28:11 preserve these trees but to preserve the canopies as well.
11:28:15 This preservation has created a geometric challenges that
11:28:21 had to be met in order to realize a reasonable development
11:28:26 for the property.
11:28:27 The proposed open space of Gandy townhomes is 50% larger
11:28:31 than is required by city code for the development.
11:28:34 Many of the smaller trees impacted by the development will
11:28:36 be replaced on-site and the remainder as Abbye mentioned
11:28:41 will be compensated for by contribution to the city Tampa
11:28:44 tree bank fund.
11:28:45 Every consideration has been given to minimizing any
11:28:48 negative impacts on surrounding neighborhoods.
11:28:51 Generally Gandy townhomes is adjacent to single-family homes
11:28:54 on the north, multifamily developments to the east or west,
11:28:57 and of course across the street you have commercial
11:28:59 developments on Gandy.
11:29:01 The largest proposed setbacks are on the north in respect to
11:29:05 the trees and in respect to the neighborhood that we are
11:29:08 butted up against here.
11:29:10 These setbacks are I didn't with the required setbacks for
11:29:13 RM-24 zoning, and the large trees and landscaping to the
11:29:18 north property line that will obscure visibility between the
11:29:21 properties.
11:29:21 The side setbacks are adjacent to commercially zoned
11:29:25 properties on either side that allow for higher density and
11:29:28 substantially smaller setbacks.
11:29:29 The owners of these properties have been contacted and
11:29:33 neither objected to the proposed development.
11:29:35 The setback reduces the west side to allow for rear units to
11:29:40 the side to slide north to accommodate the grand tree.
11:29:43 The proposed front and side setbacks are in keeping with
11:29:46 other single-family attached and multifamily properties
11:29:49 along this section of Gandy.
11:29:51 The proposed setback is larger than what has been provided
11:29:53 for in similar uses in the area.
11:29:55 As we showed in the slide weighed shown you earlier.
11:30:00 The proposed setbacks allow for floor accommodations of the
11:30:03 grand trees and maximum open spaces.
11:30:06 This site plan includes 18 dwelling units, the CMU 35 land
11:30:10 use category actually allows up to 26 units on the property
11:30:14 and up to 30 units with bonus provisions.
11:30:17 The proposed density for this site is much lower than other
11:30:20 similarly developed properties in the area.
11:30:23 We have had several meetings with surrounding neighbors.
11:30:25 The most recent of which was yesterday.
11:30:27 And in summary we have sought the input from your staff,
11:30:30 from natural resources and from the surrounding neighbors.
11:30:34 In the plan you see before you, it represents these
11:30:39 different groups.
11:30:40 The proposed Gandy town home development will be a
11:30:43 attractive addition to the neighborhood, extensive efforts
11:30:46 have been made to ensure that the development is consistent
11:30:48 with both Land Development Code and city's comprehensive
11:30:52 plan.
11:30:53 Both city zoning staff and Planning Commission as you heard
11:30:57 earlier.
11:30:57 The city staff has requested several minor updates to the
11:31:00 plan which will be made before second reading. We
11:31:03 respectfully request your approval of this petition.
11:31:06 Bob sprinkle, sprinkle consulting, the engineer, and I are
11:31:11 available to answer any questions.
11:31:14 And one last thing I would like to say is I would like to
11:31:16 take this opportunity to personally thank Abbye Feeley and
11:31:20 Mary Samaniego as well as Mary Daniels of the city's natural
11:31:24 resources department who all took time to sit down with us
11:31:28 and meat with us on several occasions to work on the
11:31:30 project.
11:31:31 We hope with your approval tonight the last front on Gandy.
11:31:39 I have an e-mail of a support letter from COJACK and the Joe
11:31:44 that we sent out to neighbors in our meeting with all the
11:31:48 neighbors neighborhoods that could come before us to express
11:31:50 any concerns.
11:31:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If would you hand that to our attorney, Mr.
11:31:54 DiMaio.
11:31:56 Are there any questions from the applicant at this time from
11:31:59 any members of council?
11:32:00 Okay.
11:32:01 Are you done with your presentation at this time?
11:32:04 >> Yes, Mr. Chairman.
11:32:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:32:06 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak at
11:32:09 this time on item number 14, REZ 16-62?
11:32:13 Come forward.
11:32:14 Please state your name and address.
11:32:15 >> Mark grady, 527 Luzon Avenue, 33606.
11:32:24 I own property at 2908 west Hawthorne which is the north
11:32:32 property, 128 feet to the north of this property.
11:32:35 I just wanted to come up and say originally I was not in
11:32:39 support of the program.
11:32:43 They were building a project that I thought would, you know,
11:32:48 not benefit and not be a friendly environment for my house
11:32:55 that I am building just to the north.
11:32:57 Over the last few months, they have worked hard and they
11:32:59 have come together and they presented some good options that
11:33:04 I found out about in the last few days and they have done a
11:33:06 good job in convincing me that things will be going no
11:33:12 better direction, and they have allowed for the setbacks to
11:33:17 be more favorable to my home.
11:33:19 And I'm in support of the project.
11:33:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
11:33:26 Anyone else in the public like to speak at this time on item
11:33:28 number 14?
11:33:32 Okay.
11:33:35 Any rebuttal, sir?
11:33:36 >> No, and I appreciate your full support.
11:33:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, sir.
11:33:42 Any questions at all from council about this particular
11:33:44 project?
11:33:44 Mrs. Feeley?
11:33:49 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I just wanted to say that the applicant is
11:33:51 committed to make those modifications between first and
11:33:54 second reading that we have in our report and are provided
11:33:56 in the revision sheet to you.
11:33:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Are you sure we have everything now?
11:34:01 Just want to make sure before we close the meeting.
11:34:05 All right.
11:34:06 I have a motion to close from Mr. Cohen, a second from Mrs.
11:34:09 Capin.
11:34:09 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
11:34:12 Any opposed?
11:34:13 I was going to go to Mr. Miranda but it looks like he put
11:34:16 away his thing.
11:34:20 Mr. Maniscalco, item number 14.
11:34:24 >> An ordinance for first reading consideration, an
11:34:26 ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 2851
11:34:29 West Gandy Boulevard in the city of Tampa, Florida and more
11:34:32 particularly described in section 1 from zoning district
11:34:35 classification CG commercial general to PD planned
11:34:38 development, residential, single-family attached, providing
11:34:41 an effective date.
11:34:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Including the revision.
11:34:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Including the revisions between now and
11:34:47 second reading.
11:34:48 I have a second from Mr. Miranda.
11:34:49 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying yay.
11:34:52 Any opposed?
11:34:53 >> The motion carried with Reddick being absent at vote.
11:34:57 Second reading and adoption will be on November 3rd at
11:35:00 9:30 a.m.
11:35:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:35:04 I have a motion to receive and file all the documents from
11:35:07 Mr. Miranda.
11:35:08 I have a second from Mr. Maniscalco.
11:35:10 All in favor of that motion?
11:35:11 Any opposed?
11:35:12 Mr. Miranda, do you have any new business, sir?
11:35:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, sir.
11:35:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Of course.
11:35:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Go ahead.
11:35:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I just want to announce the Humane Society
11:35:37 of Tampa Bay is 100 years old and they will be offering free
11:35:40 shot clinics for dogs and adoption on November 5th from
11:35:45 9 a.m. to have 1 p.m. at Yuengling brewery at 111-30th
11:35:54 street and the phone number is 813-876-4150.
11:36:00 You may go to the free shot clinic and adoption event.
11:36:06 And the lightning win their opening game.
11:36:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: They won?
11:36:12 Yoo-hoo.
11:36:13 Go Bolts.
11:36:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's it.
11:36:15 >>HARRY COHEN: Two very quick things.
11:36:19 First is I would like to make a motion to present a
11:36:23 commendation to the H. Lee Moffitt center to be presented at
11:36:27 their upcoming board meeting on October. This.
11:36:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen, second by Mrs.
11:36:33 Montelione.
11:36:34 All in favor?
11:36:37 >>HARRY COHEN: Second a plan amendment public hearing to
11:36:39 the August cycle plan amendment on December 8th, 2016 at
11:36:44 5:01 p.m.
11:36:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
11:36:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
11:36:47 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
11:36:49 All in favor of that motion?
11:36:50 Any opposed?
11:36:51 >>HARRY COHEN: I would just say that Councilwoman
11:36:53 Montelione to second the motion for a meeting that will take
11:36:55 place after she has left us.
11:36:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Just make sure when you say left us, you are
11:37:29 not leaving us permanently Mr. Maniscalco, any new business?
11:37:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: No, sir.
11:37:29 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No new business, sir.
11:37:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
11:37:29 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I mean, if I have a piece of new
11:37:29 business it's going to have to be in the next two meetings.
11:37:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
11:37:29 If there's no one in the public that would like to speak at
11:37:29 this time, we are adjourned.
11:38:48 (Meeting adjourned.)
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