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THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2023, 9:00 A.M.
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9:01:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE'LL START WITH THE INVOCATION.
9:01:49AM PLEASE STAND.
9:01:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. SCOTT WHO HAS BEEN A FRIEND OF THE
9:01:56AM CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:01:57AM HE HAS A WONDERFUL WAY OF DOING THINGS.
9:02:00AM I SERVED WITH HIM HERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
9:02:03AM HE WAS CHAIRMAN AND DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB NOT ONLY HERE.
9:02:07AM IT IS MY PLEASURE TO HAVE THE DEACON TOM SCOTT COME BEFORE
9:02:10AM US AND GIVE US A BLESSING THIS MORNING AND TELL US THE WAY
9:02:14AM TO DO THE RIGHT THING IS ONLY WAY, THE RIGHT WAY.
9:02:18AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD,
9:02:24AM IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND BRING THE INVOCATION.
9:02:27AM BIBLE TELLS US IN FIRST TIMOTHY TO PRAY FOR THE KING AND
9:02:31AM THOSE IN AUTHORITY OVER US.
9:02:32AM DO THAT WHICH IS RIGHT AND JUST.
9:02:37AM IT IS ALWAYS MY PRIVILEGE TO COME AND PRAY AND ASK GOD
9:02:40AM BLESSINGS UPON YOUR DECISIONS AND THOSE THINGS YOU DO TO
9:02:43AM HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS.
9:02:45AM SHALL WE PRAY?
9:02:45AM SO WE DO AS YOUR WORD INSTRUCT US TO DO AND THAT IS TO
9:02:49AM ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN ALL OF OUR WAYS, AND YOU SHALL GIVE
9:02:52AM DIRECTION TO OUR PATH.
9:02:53AM WE THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY
9:02:58AM UNTO US THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED US AND BROUGHT US TOGETHER FOR
9:03:01AM ANOTHER DAY.
9:03:01AM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN THIS DAY THAT WE CAN DO GOOD, SHOW
9:03:06AM MERCY, DO JUSTLY.
9:03:08AM ANOTHER DAY WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA A
9:03:12AM BETTER PLACE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS AND ALL OF OUR
9:03:14AM RESIDENTS.
9:03:15AM ANOTHER DAY THAT THIS BOARD HAS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOUND
9:03:21AM AND WISE DECISIONS FOR OUR CITY.
9:03:25AM WE THANK YOU FOR THEM TODAY.
9:03:27AM THANK YOU FOR THESE ELECTED LEADERS.
9:03:28AM WE PRAY THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE AND
9:03:33AM GIVE THEM INSIGHT.
9:03:34AM MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND GOOD JUDGMENT IN THE INTEREST OF
9:03:38AM OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITIZENS.
9:03:39AM THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY.
9:03:41AM WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR.
9:03:43AM WE THANK YOU FOR OUR NATION.
9:03:44AM WE PRAY NOW FOR AMERICA.
9:03:48AM AS YOU CONTINUE TO BE LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE, A
9:03:52AM NATION THAT LEADS IN JUSTICE AND EQUALITY FOR ALL OF HER
9:03:55AM CITIZENS.
9:03:56AM WE PRAY NOW THAT YOU'LL BLESS AND GUARD OUR TROOPS WHO FIGHT
9:04:00AM FOR DEMOCRACY AROUND THE WORLD.
9:04:02AM BRING THEM BACK HOME SAFELY.
9:04:04AM WE PRAY FOR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM HERE LOCALLY, OUR
9:04:09AM POLICE DEPARTMENT, RISE EACH DAY TO PROTECT US.
9:04:12AM I PRAY YOU, GOD, PROTECT THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
9:04:15AM AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO BLESS US TODAY AND ALL THAT WE DO IT
9:04:18AM WILL BE TO YOUR GLORY, TO YOUR PRAISE, AND TO YOUR HONOR,
9:04:22AM AND THAT TAMPA WILL BE A GREAT CITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE GREAT
9:04:26AM LEADERS.
9:04:26AM IT IS IN YOUR NAME THAT WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:04:30AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:04:44AM >> THANK YOU, AGAIN.
9:04:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CLERK SOTO, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL,
9:04:50AM PLEASE?
9:04:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:04:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:04:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:55AM >> VIERA?
9:04:55AM MIRANDA?
9:04:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:04:58AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:04:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:05:01AM MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.
9:05:02AM >> SO MOVED.
9:05:02AM >> SECOND.
9:05:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:05:04AM AYE.
9:05:05AM OPPOSED?
9:05:06AM MOTION CARRIES.
9:05:07AM SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ATTORNEY MORRIS FIRST ABOUT OUR
9:05:12AM PROCEDURES FOR TODAY.
9:05:14AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: RELATIVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT, MEMBERS OF THE
9:05:19AM PUBLIC ARE GIVEN A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING
9:05:21AM OF THE CRA MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE
9:05:24AM THE CRA TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON SUCH AN ITEM.
9:05:27AM A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:05:31AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:05:31AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE REMINDED TO FREE FROM
9:05:34AM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING
9:05:38AM REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR
9:05:42AM DISPLAYING DISRUPTIVE SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:05:45AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
9:05:48AM PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY, CRA MEMBER, STAFF MEMBER
9:05:51AM OR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
9:05:52AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:05:55AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA FROM
9:05:58AM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:06:00AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CRA RULES MAY BE RULED
9:06:03AM OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
9:06:06AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY AT
9:06:09AM THAT DAY'S MEETING.
9:06:10AM CRA MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD REFRAIN FROM
9:06:12AM ENGAGING WITH SPEAKERS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:06:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, ATTORNEY MORRIS.
9:06:18AM WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA TODAY.
9:06:19AM WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT -- I'M SORRY.
9:06:31AM THANK YOU.
9:06:33AM FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO GO OVER THE AGENDA.
9:06:35AM I'LL CALL UP ERICA MOODY, DIRECTOR OF CRA TO GO OVER SOME OF
9:06:40AM THE SETTING THE CRA AGENDA.
9:06:45AM >>ERICA MOODY: GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
9:06:47AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR, HERE SETTING THE AGENDA FOR THE
9:06:50AM DAY.
9:06:50AM WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA, BUT WE ARE ASKING TO CONTINUE A FEW
9:06:54AM ITEMS.
9:06:54AM WE ARE ASKING TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16.
9:07:02AM WE ARE ASKING FOR ITEM NUMBER 12 TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED.
9:07:06AM WE'RE ASKING FOR ITEM NUMBER 18 TO BE REMOVED FROM THE
9:07:10AM AGENDA AND ITEM 17 AND 21 PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
9:07:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE ALL THE CHANGES BY THE
9:07:22AM DIRECTOR.
9:07:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:07:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:07:24AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:07:27AM SECOND -- I MEAN BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:07:30AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:07:31AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:07:32AM AYE.
9:07:33AM OPPOSED?
9:07:33AM MOTION CARRIES.
9:07:35AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:07:38AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AS PART OF MOVING THE CHANGES TO THE
9:07:40AM AGENDA, IF YOU WOULD MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MEMO FOR
9:07:46AM 11, 13, 14, 15 --
9:07:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
9:07:53AM RECEIVE AND FILE IS 12.
9:07:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 12.
9:07:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:08:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:08:02AM AYE.
9:08:02AM THAT WAS BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
9:08:06AM MIRANDA.
9:08:06AM OKAY.
9:08:09AM DO YOU HAVE THAT, CLERK?
9:08:09AM OKAY.
9:08:13AM ALL RIGHT.
9:08:14AM NOW WE CAN MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:16AM WE'LL START WITH OUR ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR.
9:08:19AM RANDOLPH.
9:08:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:08:29AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:08:31AM TODAY I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR NEXT UPCOMING PUBLIC SAFETY
9:08:34AM MEETING ON JANUARY THE 17th, 2003 AT 7 P.M.
9:08:39AM IT'S ENTITLED HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ECONOMIC
9:08:43AM DEVELOPMENT CONNECTING THE DOTS.
9:08:45AM DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AND HEALTH IN
9:08:51AM GENERAL.
9:08:53AM IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY WE'RE DEALING WITH STREET VIOLENCE
9:08:55AM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE'RE DEALING WITH HOW DO YOU
9:08:59AM CONNECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REDUCE CRIME.
9:09:02AM IN PREPARING FOR THIS MEETING, WE FIRST TALKED FOCUS GROUP
9:09:07AM AND ONLINE IN WHICH WE TALKED WITH GENERATION ALPHA WHO WERE
9:09:12AM LIKELY TO BE KILLED OR LIKELY TO KILL.
9:09:15AM WE REALLY WANTED TO GET THE --
9:09:19AM THE SECOND THING WE DID WAS TO DO RESEARCH ON BEST PRACTICES
9:09:22AM FROM 15 OF THE MOST VIOLENT CITIES IN THE NATION.
9:09:26AM OUR FOCUS IS BASED ON A SOCIOECONOMIC APPROACH THAT
9:09:35AM ATTRACTS, EXCITES, EDUCATE, AND TRANSFORM SOME OF THE MOST
9:09:39AM VIOLENT OFFENDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:09:42AM THE COMPONENTS INCLUDES CRITICAL THINKING, EMOTIONAL
9:09:46AM INTELLIGENCE, LEADERSHIP TRAINING, RECONNECTING THE YOUTH TO
9:09:50AM THE COMMUNITY, FAMILY REENGAGEMENT, AND BUILDING WEALTH.
9:09:54AM THE TARGET POPULATION THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IS CALLED THE
9:10:01AM FOUR.
9:10:01AM THEY ARE NOT AFRAID OF PRISON.
9:10:03AM NOT AFRAID OF BUYING AND NOT AFRAID OF KILLING.
9:10:10AM HOMELAND SECURITY, HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOUNDATION
9:10:14AM INCORPORATION.
9:10:15AM THIS IS BASED ON SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE STREETS THAT WE
9:10:20AM TALK TO ON THE CORNERS.
9:10:22AM WE PROMISED THEM THAT WE WOULDN'T FORGET THEM AND WE WOULD
9:10:26AM CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN LEAVE THE CORNERS, DROP
9:10:29AM THE GUNS AND BEGIN TO BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
9:10:32AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:10:33AM MEET SOME EXTRAORDINARY PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT
9:10:38AM TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND, OF
9:10:40AM COURSE, TAMPA IS AMONG THE TOP.
9:10:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:10:46AM SO WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM INSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
9:10:50AM THOSE FOLKS CAN COME AHEAD AND SPEAK.
9:10:53AM GOOD MORNING.
9:10:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:10:55AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
9:10:56AM I HOPE I'M ADDRESSING THE RIGHT MEETING.
9:11:00AM I'M NEW TO THIS.
9:11:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:11:05AM >> CRAIG FULTON.
9:11:06AM I'M ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF CLEARWATER.
9:11:09AM I'D LIKE TO OPEN A DIALOGUE ABOUT SOME ISSUES HAPPENING ON
9:11:12AM THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY ON THE TAMPA SIDE.
9:11:16AM I BELIEVE MR. MIRANDA'S DISTRICT 6.
9:11:18AM THERE'S CLEARLY POSTED SIGNS, NO TRESPASSING BETWEEN SUNSET
9:11:22AM AND SUNRISE.
9:11:23AM THERE IS A NOISE ORDINANCE AND IT'S NOT BEING PATROLLED AND
9:11:28AM ENFORCED VERY WELL.
9:11:29AM I'M 5.8 MILES AWAY AND I CAN HEAR THE MUSIC AT 1 IN THE
9:11:33AM MORNING, 2 IN THE MORNING, 3 IN THE MORNING.
9:11:36AM I GO OUT THERE AND I BREAK IT UP MYSELF AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S
9:11:40AM AN ISSUE OF SAFETY.
9:11:43AM FIRST I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY.
9:11:45AM MAYBE IT'S JUST ME, BUT I'VE RUN INTO OTHER NEIGHBORS OUT
9:11:49AM THERE LOOKING TO DO THE SAME THING.
9:11:52AM WE'VE REPEATEDLY CALLED -- THIS IS EVERY WEEKEND NOW FOR THE
9:11:55AM PAST SIX WEEKS.
9:11:56AM WE'VE CALLED THE POLICE.
9:11:57AM THEY SHOW UP.
9:12:01AM TIME LIMIT.
9:12:03AM IT'S ON THIS SIDE OF THE PINELLAS COUNTY SIGN.
9:12:06AM WHEN I'M THERE, THE TAMPA POLICE SAY THAT'S NOT OUR
9:12:09AM JURISDICTION.
9:12:10AM I SAID BUT IT'S ON THIS SIDE.
9:12:11AM I GO TO CLEARWATER, THEY SAY THAT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION.
9:12:17AM AND THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS ZONE THAT THEY KNOW THEY CAN GO
9:12:21AM AND SET UP.
9:12:22AM WHEN I SAY PARTIES, I MEAN IT'S SPEAKERS, LASER LIGHTS, ONE
9:12:27AM IN THE MORNING, TWO IN THE MORNING.
9:12:29AM I WAS OUT THERE 4:30 IN THE MORNING BREAKING THIS UP AS THE
9:12:32AM POLICE SAT AT THE TURNAROUND AND SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO
9:12:37AM ANYTHING.
9:12:37AM SO I WENT DOWN THERE.
9:12:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO HELP GET THE LAW
9:12:43AM ENFORCED.
9:12:43AM I'M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR A CHANGE, SO WE CAN GET PEACE AND
9:12:48AM REST IN THE EVENINGS.
9:12:49AM IF YOU LOOK ONLINE, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, SIGNED
9:12:52AM PETITIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
9:12:53AM IT SEEMS TO BE ECHOING ACROSS THE WATER, SAFETY HARBOR,
9:12:57AM OLDSMAR, TOWN N' COUNTRY AND SO ON.
9:13:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:13:06AM WE ARE LISTENING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE ON
9:13:09AM WITH OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY.
9:13:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO --
9:13:13AM TWO THINGS. IS IT A PRIVATE BUSINESS?
9:13:16AM STRUCTURE, PEOPLE THAT BRING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT?
9:13:18AM >> PEOPLE ARE BRINGING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT.
9:13:20AM THEY'LL HAVE TRUCK BEDS FULL OF SPEAKERS AND THEY'LL STAND
9:13:23AM THEM UP OR THE WHOLE BACK IS FULL OF SPEAKERS.
9:13:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS IT EVERY DAY OR CERTAIN DAYS?
9:13:30AM >> IT'S TYPICALLY FRIDAY NIGHT, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
9:13:33AM IT'S DURING THE DAY AS WELL.
9:13:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DO TAKE NOTES AND WE WILL PRESENT THEM
9:13:38AM TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
9:13:41AM DARLENE WILL GET YOUR INFORMATION.
9:13:44AM THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:13:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:13:50AM DARRYL HICH.
9:13:53AM AND THOSE THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBER.
9:13:54AM LAST WEEK --
9:13:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:13:59AM >> DARRYL HICH.
9:14:00AM LAST WEEK I CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND I SPOKE ABOUT
9:14:02AM RESOLUTION NUMBER 568.
9:14:04AM THE RESOLUTION 568 WAS A RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
9:14:08AM SIGNED SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2020, WHEREAS THE CITY APOLOGIZED
9:14:13AM FOR WRONGS THAT THEY DONE AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS AND
9:14:16AM BLACKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:14:18AM IN THAT RESOLUTION, AGAIN, YOU STATED SEVERAL THINGS THAT
9:14:21AM YOU WOULD DO TO CORRECT THE WRONGS AND THE ABNORMALITIES
9:14:25AM THAT YOU KNOW YOU DID OR THAT THE CITY HAD DID DURING THAT
9:14:29AM PERIOD OF TIME.
9:14:31AM I GAVE A DOCUMENTATION TO THE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK TO REVIEW
9:14:34AM AND LOOK AT, AND IT'S SEVEN DAYS.
9:14:39AM I DO REALIZE THAT AFTER SEVEN DAYS A LOT OF THINGS CAN TAKE
9:14:43AM PLACE.
9:14:43AM A FEW THINGS THAT DID TAKE PLACE IN THE PERIOD OF TIME IS I
9:14:46AM SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE AIDES AND TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
9:14:49AM ON THE DAIS.
9:14:52AM I DO KNOW THAT WHEN A HURT, HARM OR DANGER TAKES PLACE TO
9:14:56AM WHITE AMERICA, PEOPLE WILL RESPOND A LOT FASTER.
9:15:01AM OCTOBER 29th WHEN THE YOUNG PEOPLE GOT KILLED IN YBOR,
9:15:06AM THIS CITY TURNED UPSIDE DOWN.
9:15:09AM BUT WHAT I WAS TOLD ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TO PEOPLE
9:15:12AM THAT LOOK LIKE ME FOR OVER 400 YEARS, WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS
9:15:17AM THAT I NEEDED TO TAKE MY CONCERNS TO THE MAYOR.
9:15:22AM WELL, I'M A MAN OF 28 YEARS OF SERVICE, AND I DO KNOW ABOUT
9:15:26AM THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
9:15:27AM AND THERE IS NO WAY THAT MY CHAIN OF COMMAND WOULD HAVE TOLD
9:15:30AM ME TO GO TO THE ADMIRAL TO SPEAK ON AN ISSUE THAT'S
9:15:36AM HAPPENING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL COMMAND.
9:15:39AM SO I WOULD THEN GO TO MY COMMAND MASTER CHIEF, MY EXECUTIVE
9:15:42AM OFFICER, MY COMMANDING OFFICER.
9:15:45AM I WAS TOLD TO GO TO THE MAYOR.
9:15:47AM SO IF I GO TO THE MAYOR, I'M GOING TO TELL THE MAYOR THAT
9:15:51AM SHE HAS A COMMITTEE THAT'S NOT ABLE TO RENDER THE JOB THAT
9:15:55AM THEY STATED THEY COULD DO.
9:15:56AM IF I WAS TO GO TO THE MAYOR, I'M GOING TO TELL THE MAYOR
9:16:00AM THAT THEY HAD A THREE-YEAR DEAL ON THE TABLE THAT THEY
9:16:04AM HAVEN'T EVEN COME TO THE TABLE AND BROUGHT TO PASS AND YOU
9:16:08AM SIT AND WE DIALOGUE ABOUT THE CRA AND WE TALK ABOUT GAZA AND
9:16:14AM WE TALK ABOUT ISRAEL AND WE TALK ABOUT YBOR, YET WE HAVE A
9:16:19AM THREE-YEAR CHECK THAT IS DUE.
9:16:22AM THIS IS FRUSTRATING TO ME WHEN I HEAR A MAN OF AUTHORITY,
9:16:26AM SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THIS FOR MANY YEARS, WHEN I'M TOLD TO
9:16:30AM GO SEE THE MAYOR, WHY SHOULD I GO SEE THE MAYOR WHEN I HAVE
9:16:34AM YOU TO BE THE VOICE OF THE PUBLIC.
9:16:37AM BECAUSE IF I HAVE TO GET IN MY CAR AND DRIVE DOWN, ME AND
9:16:40AM THE MAYOR WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT REMOVING EACH AND
9:16:43AM EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO YOUR JOB.
9:16:47AM THIS IS WHAT WE VOTED YOU IN TO DO, TO HELP US BE THE VOICE
9:16:51AM FOR THE VOICELESS.
9:16:54AM THIS IS OVERLY RIDICULOUS.
9:16:55AM IT SEEMS EVERY TIME I'M SPEAKING THIS THING GOES OFF MUCH
9:16:59AM FASTER.
9:16:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: RIGHT.
9:17:00AM IT HAS THREE MINUTES.
9:17:01AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:17:02AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:17:03AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:17:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:17:09AM MARA CRUZ LANZ.
9:17:12AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO CITY COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO -- I WAS
9:17:17AM HERE WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE, AND IT WAS VOTED DOWN, BUT
9:17:22AM YET MY CITY TAXES WENT UP 10%.
9:17:25AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED.
9:17:28AM IF NOTHING WAS CHANGED, MY DAUGHTER'S TAXES WERE SUPPOSED TO
9:17:35AM BE 6,400.
9:17:36AM NOW THEY ARE 7,000.
9:17:38AM MY TAXES WENT UP 10%, WHICH AS A LANDLORD I NEED TO RAISE MY
9:17:46AM RENTS NOW CONSIDERABLY, WHICH IS NOT HELPING THE TENANTS OR
9:17:52AM HELPING THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED.
9:17:54AM BECAUSE I KEEP MY RENTS LOW AND I PAY SEWER, WATER, AND
9:17:59AM GARBAGE FOR ALL MY APARTMENTS.
9:18:01AM THIS IS NOT HELPING.
9:18:04AM WE ARE IN A TIME OF INFLATION.
9:18:08AM MEDIUM INCOMES ARE NOT -- MEDIAN INCOMES ARE NOT GOING UP,
9:18:11AM BUT YET OUR PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH I PAY A LOT.
9:18:15AM I PAID OVER $100,000 THIS YEAR.
9:18:19AM OKAY.
9:18:19AM MY ROADS AREN'T GETTING FIXED.
9:18:23AM HABANA AVENUE IS A DISGRACE WITH THE POTHOLES AND EVERYTHING
9:18:28AM ELSE.
9:18:28AM THE MONEY THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS SPENDING IS ONLY ON THE
9:18:32AM RIVERWALK AND DOWNTOWN.
9:18:34AM AND I'M SICK OF IT.
9:18:36AM I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATING.
9:18:41AM I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF TAMPA SINCE THE DAY I WAS
9:18:45AM BORN.
9:18:46AM AND WE NEED RELIEF.
9:18:49AM I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE CRA MONEY FROM DOWNTOWN AND TAKE CARE
9:18:54AM OF OUR ROADS WHICH ARE TRADITIONALLY SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN
9:18:58AM CARE OF BY OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO FIX ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE,
9:19:04AM AND SIDEWALKS.
9:19:07AM AND WE CANNOT CONTINUE LIKE THIS.
9:19:10AM CITY OF TAMPA, AS I PRESENTED TO THIS COUNCIL, HAS THE
9:19:13AM HIGHEST INFLATION RATE IN THE ENTIRE NATION.
9:19:18AM THE USA, RIGHT HERE.
9:19:20AM SO YOU GUYS ARE RESPONSIBLE.
9:19:22AM YOU'RE THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.
9:19:24AM I HAD TWO POLICE OFFICERS TURN OFF THEIR BODY CAMS TO LET ME
9:19:30AM KNOW THAT OUR MAYOR IS BUSING PEOPLE FROM ORLANDO HERE,
9:19:35AM HOMELESS PEOPLE HERE TO TAMPA.
9:19:37AM WHY?
9:19:39AM WHY?
9:19:39AM THANK YOU.
9:19:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:19:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:19:49AM MY NAME IS CARMEN EDMONDS.
9:19:52AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
9:19:54AM THESE SEEM TO BE THE MOST POPULAR BUZZ WORDS OF THE DAY, BUT
9:19:58AM WHAT I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO TODAY IS NOT FAIR AND IT'S NOT
9:20:00AM EQUITABLE.
9:20:01AM I WANT TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 AND 21.
9:20:04AM FIRST AGENDA ITEM 21 CONCERNING GIVING HANDOUTS TO THE
9:20:08AM AQUARIUM.
9:20:08AM THERE IS A PARABLE THAT TALKS ABOUT A BUILDER WHO SETS OUT
9:20:13AM TO BUILD A BUILDING, BUT HE FIRST MUST SIT DOWN AND COUNT
9:20:16AM THE COSTS TO MAKE SURE HE CAN AFFORD HIS PLANS.
9:20:18AM IF AN ENTITY SUCH AS THE AQUARIUM IS HERE ASKING FOR MORE
9:20:21AM TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND THEIR PET PROJECT, I WOULD SAY THEY
9:20:23AM WERE A FOOLISH BUILDER AND THEY DID NOT CONSIDER THE COSTS.
9:20:26AM HOW IS IT FAIR TO ASK TAXPAYERS, WE'RE STRUGGLING, DYING OUT
9:20:32AM HERE PAYING TAXES.
9:20:34AM RENTS GOING UP.
9:20:35AM ROADS AREN'T GETTING FIXED.
9:20:36AM INFLATION IS THROUGH THE ROOF.
9:20:37AM HOW IS IT FAIR TO ASK TAXPAYERS FOR MORE MONEY FOR
9:20:41AM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AQUARIUM, SOMETHING VERY FEW TAXPAYERS
9:20:43AM CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW?
9:20:45AM IT'S MONEY THAT WILL BE SPENT WHERE ONLY A FEW WILL ENJOY.
9:20:49AM WE NEED TO BE SPENDING THAT MONEY TO FIX ROADS AND
9:20:51AM INFRASTRUCTURE, A PROJECT THAT BENEFITS ALL TAXPAYERS.
9:20:54AM THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
9:20:57AM AND THE SAME ISSUE GOES TOWARD AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
9:21:00AM I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE 50% OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY AND
9:21:03AM ALLOCATE IT TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN AREAS OF THE
9:21:07AM CITY THAT DESPERATELY NEED IT.
9:21:09AM OUR CITY STREETS HAVE FLOODING ISSUES.
9:21:11AM OUR SIDEWALKS ARE FALLING APART OR NONEXISTENT.
9:21:14AM POTHOLES ARE RAMPANT AND CAUSES ISSUES FOR MOTORISTS AND
9:21:18AM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES.
9:21:18AM PLEASE TRULY DO THE MOST FAIR AND EQUITABLE THINGS WITH
9:21:22AM THESE MONIES.
9:21:23AM REALLOCATE THEM TO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT ALL
9:21:26AM CITIZENS, NOT THOSE JUST WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS IN MIND.
9:21:30AM IT'S TIME TO KEEP THE TAXPAYER AND THE LITTLE GUY IN MIND
9:21:33AM HERE AND NOT THE BIG BUILDERS AND THE BIG ENTITIES THAT
9:21:37AM REALLY, THEY ARE NOT BENEFITING THE CITIZENS AND THE GENERAL
9:21:40AM PUBLIC.
9:21:41AM PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
9:21:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
9:21:47AM JIM DAVIS FROM NEW TAMPA.
9:21:49AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ALSO ON ITEM 8, THAT THE LONG-RANGE
9:21:55AM TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS ENTITLED, IT'S TIME.
9:21:59AM SOME OF THE CRAs HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 40 YEARS.
9:22:02AM IT'S TIME TO START REEXAMINING THE TIF RATIOS AND THE
9:22:08AM PURPOSE AND THE NEED FOR SOME OF THESE LOCAL CRAs.
9:22:13AM IT WAS OKAY BECAUSE TAXES WEREN'T GOING UP OR AT LEAST THE
9:22:17AM MILLAGE RATE WASN'T GOING UP.
9:22:19AM TAXES WERE GOING UP BUT THE MILLAGE RATE WASN'T GOING UP FOR
9:22:23AM 30 YEARS UNTIL 2016.
9:22:26AM OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, THEY SEEM TO BE EVERY YEAR YOU SEEM
9:22:30AM TO BE FIGHTING A MILLAGE INCREASE OR SOME OTHER FEE
9:22:34AM INCREASE.
9:22:35AM I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU.
9:22:36AM YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE HOW HARD PEOPLE HAVE IT.
9:22:39AM THEY COME TO YOU ALL THE TIME.
9:22:41AM I KNOW YOU HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE AT HEART.
9:22:47AM AFTER 40 YEARS, YOU REALLY NEED TO START EXAMINING, CAN WE
9:22:51AM CUT THE TIF TO 50% TO ALLOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO
9:22:55AM BE DONE?
9:22:56AM THESE PEOPLE, THEIR SIDEWALKS ARE A MESS.
9:22:59AM THEIR ROADS ARE A MESS.
9:23:00AM IT'S COSTING THEM.
9:23:01AM AS A DOCTOR I CAN TELL YOU IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
9:23:06AM $25 MILLION FOR THE AQUARIUM IS NOT A SAFETY ISSUE.
9:23:10AM SO I IMPLORE YOU TO EXAMINE THAT.
9:23:15AM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE CONSULTANTS AND THE STAFF WHO
9:23:18AM PUT IT TOGETHER.
9:23:19AM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY.
9:23:24AM IF YOU DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING, THESE WILL GO OUT OF EXISTENCE
9:23:26AM IN 20 YEARS.
9:23:28AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL GET A WINDFALL OF OVER $120 MILLION
9:23:30AM EVERY YEAR FROM THEM.
9:23:32AM I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU EXAMINING, PUT THE STAFF IN CONTACT
9:23:37AM WITH ME AND LET'S LOOK AT POSSIBLY USING A.I. AS A BEST
9:23:42AM METHOD TO LOOK AT THIS SO THAT THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY CAN
9:23:46AM GET SOME RELIEF.
9:23:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY AND A MERRY
9:23:49AM CHRISTMAS.
9:23:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:23:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:23:56AM MY NAME IS ALEXIS CARMENATY.
9:24:02AM I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE I WAS BORN.
9:24:04AM I LIVE CURRENTLY WITH MY GRANDPARENTS WHO ARE FOUR MILES
9:24:09AM AWAY.
9:24:09AM THEY CANNOT HAVE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES RAISED.
9:24:13AM THEY ARE BOTH RETIRED, FIXED INCOMES.
9:24:16AM THEY HAVE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE FOR 47 YEARS.
9:24:19AM I DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM THE BEAUTIFICATION THAT HAS HAPPENED
9:24:24AM DOWNTOWN AND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA LIMITS.
9:24:26AM I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE WHEN IT COMES TO TOURISM, WHEN
9:24:33AM IT COMES TO TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY WHICH HELPS
9:24:37AM EVERYONE.
9:24:38AM THE ISSUE IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN
9:24:41AM AND ENJOY THE AQUARIUM OR ENJOY THE RESTAURANTS OR ENJOY
9:24:46AM CITY WALK IF THEY CAN'T DRIVE ON THE ROADS.
9:24:49AM AND IF THEY CAN'T DRIVE ON THE HIGHWAY.
9:24:51AM THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
9:24:54AM WE NEED MONEY TO BE CHANGED.
9:24:58AM ITEM 8 NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO WHERE IT'S RELOCATED.
9:25:02AM NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA OR I
9:25:04AM DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF MAKING THINGS LOOK BEAUTIFUL, BUT
9:25:07AM RIGHT NOW WE NEED THAT MONEY TO HELP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:25:13AM I LOVE COMING DOWNTOWN.
9:25:14AM I LOVE BEING A PART OF THE CITY, BUT IT DOESN'T DO ME ANY
9:25:20AM GOOD IF I CAN'T DRIVE AROUND, AND IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR
9:25:23AM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NORTH TAMPA OR NEW TAMPA.
9:25:27AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO COME DOWN.
9:25:29AM WHY?
9:25:29AM THEY CAN'T DRIVE ANYWHERE.
9:25:32AM BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC AND ROADS DIVERTED BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS
9:25:35AM TO DRIVE ON THEM, YOU'RE NOT HELPING GROW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
9:25:41AM TO GROW IF THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE USING IS SURFACE.
9:25:50AM THE FOUNDATION IS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IF WE DON'T FIX THAT
9:25:54AM NOW, WE'RE PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG.
9:25:57AM SO I URGE YOU TO RELOCATE THE FUNDS AND ALSO WITH THE
9:26:06AM AQUARIUM, I'M SORRY, BUT DO WE SUBSIDIZE BUSCH GARDENS?
9:26:11AM DO WE SUBSIDIZE LOWRY PARK ZOO?
9:26:15AM DO WE SUBSIDIZE ANY OF THESE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT, YOU
9:26:22AM KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO LOWRY PARK ZOO IN 20 YEARS.
9:26:26AM I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE BIRTHDAYS THERE.
9:26:29AM LOTS OF PEOPLE DO STUFF THERE.
9:26:30AM AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BE SUBSIDIZED.
9:26:33AM I KNOW THE SAME THING IS FOR THE AQUARIUM.
9:26:35AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:26:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:26:42AM JULIE McGILL.
9:26:43AM I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT THIS MORNING.
9:26:45AM I'M WITH THE CRA.
9:26:46AM I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE ALLOCATED TO
9:26:51AM STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
9:26:52AM I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS COVERED
9:26:55AM ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.
9:26:56AM I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.
9:26:57AM I CHALLENGE TO YOU TRY TO DRIVE DOWN HOWARD AVENUE NORTH OF
9:27:01AM THE INTERSTATE.
9:27:03AM IT'S BASICALLY A ROLLER COASTER RIDE.
9:27:06AM ROME AVENUE NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH, I ALMOST BOTTOM OUT ON
9:27:11AM SOME OF THOSE CROSS STREETS.
9:27:12AM IT'S AWFUL.
9:27:13AM COLUMBUS, THERE ARE SOME POTHOLES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
9:27:17AM YOU EITHER HAVE A CHOICE TO BEND THE AXLE OF YOUR CAR OR
9:27:20AM VEER INTO THE TRAFFIC GOING THE SAME WAY AS YOU.
9:27:24AM THERE ARE PLACES ON ROME -- SORRY, HABANA, AS MARA
9:27:29AM MENTIONED.
9:27:30AM I THINK IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN HABANA.
9:27:32AM IT'S HORRENDOUS.
9:27:34AM IT SEEMS LIKE I SEE STREETS BEING FIXED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
9:27:38AM AROUND THE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAYBE SOUTH OF KENNEDY,
9:27:42AM BUT I THINK ANYTHING WEST OF THE INTERSTATE AND NORTH OF
9:27:46AM KENNEDY IS BASICALLY BEING IGNORED OTHER THAN THE TAR
9:27:50AM PATCHES THAT THEY ARE PUTTING ON THAT FAIL WITHIN SIX MONTHS
9:27:54AM AS SOON AS WE HAVE A GOOD TORRENTIAL RAIN.
9:27:56AM THESE BAND-AIDS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THEY FAIL.
9:27:59AM SO WE'RE WASTING MONEY ON TAR PATCHES WHEN WE SHOULD BE
9:28:02AM ALLOCATING THAT MONEY, 50% OF THE CRA MEETING INTO THE
9:28:07AM STREETS.
9:28:07AM AND THEN AGAIN THERE ARE SIDEWALKS AS WELL.
9:28:10AM THERE IS A SIDEWALK IN EAST TAMPA.
9:28:11AM I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE.
9:28:12AM I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BEEN FIXED.
9:28:14AM I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.
9:28:16AM IT WAS SO BAD THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO WALK INTO THE STREET
9:28:18AM TO WALK AROUND BECAUSE LITERALLY JACKED UP WITH TREE ROOTS.
9:28:22AM THE TREE WAS ON THE CITY PROPERTY.
9:28:24AM THE LADY WANTED TO FIX HER FENCE AND THAT'S WHY SHE CALLED
9:28:27AM ME.
9:28:27AM CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
9:28:28AM I KNOW THERE ARE SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE THAT PEOPLE ARE LIABLE
9:28:33AM TO TRIP ON AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER LIABILITY.
9:28:36AM I'M URGING YOU TO PLEASE ADVISE THE MAYOR TO PUT THAT MONEY
9:28:40AM INTO STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
9:28:41AM THANK YOU.
9:28:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:28:46AM MY NAME IS JEFF FRANKLIN.
9:28:47AM I HAVE A RESIDENCE HERE NOT TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD.
9:28:50AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
9:28:53AM AND COMMITMENT TO HELPING TO MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE.
9:28:57AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, SPECIFICALLY THE
9:29:04AM FUNDS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING REDIRECTING.
9:29:06AM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER DIRECTING POSSIBLY UP TO
9:29:10AM 50% MORE IF IT SEEMS NECESSARY OR NEED BE TO DISBURSE THAT
9:29:18AM MONEY TO OTHER REDEVELOPMENT AREAS AND SPECIFICALLY TO BE
9:29:24AM USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE -- SIDEWALKS, ROADS, AND
9:29:27AM BEAUTIFICATION OF OUR PARKS, CONTINUE TO MAKE THEM GORGEOUS,
9:29:31AM CONTINUE TO MAKE THEM A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND A PLACE TO
9:29:34AM WANT TO GO.
9:29:36AM THIS ALSO BRINGS ME TO ITEM NUMBER 21, AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING
9:29:43AM THOSE FUNDS, MAYBE WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED PET PROJECTS.
9:29:47AM IF A BUSINESS IS GOING TO FAIL, LET IT FAIL.
9:29:50AM THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS.
9:29:51AM IT'S CALLED CAPITALISM.
9:29:53AM I UNDERSTAND WE UTILIZE IT FOR TOURISM AND IT IS A GREAT
9:29:56AM REASON TO HAVE PEOPLE COME DOWN TO DOWNTOWN, BUT WE HAVE A
9:29:59AM LOT OF OTHER REASONS THESE DAYS.
9:30:01AM SO I WOULD ALSO IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THESE FUNDS AND TO
9:30:06AM REDISTRIBUTE THEM FOR ALL OF US.
9:30:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:30:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:30:15AM MY NAME IS VICTOR DIMAIO.
9:30:17AM MY OFFICE IS DOWN THE STREET 1205 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
9:30:20AM I MOVED MY OFFICE FROM AROUND THE AIRPORT TO FRANKLIN STREET
9:30:25AM TO BE CLOSER TO MY MOM WHO IS 92 YEARS OLD HOW.
9:30:29AM I'M JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY AS OPPOSED TO DRIVING AROUND THE
9:30:34AM HORRIBLE TRAFFIC AROUND THE AIRPORT.
9:30:35AM WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP IN TAMPA, DOWNTOWN WAS THE
9:30:40AM CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
9:30:42AM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T AROUND BACK THEN, MY MOM WORKED
9:30:46AM AT HABER'S DEPARTMENT STORE, WHICH IS NO LONGER THERE.
9:30:49AM I REMEMBER TAKING HER ACROSS THE STREET TO THE OLD MAAS
9:30:53AM BROTHERS BUILDING, WHICH IS NO LONGER THERE.
9:30:56AM TO THINK THAT DOWNTOWN IS DONE, LIKE YBOR CITY, IT'S NOT.
9:31:00AM THERE'S A LOT TO BE DONE.
9:31:01AM THE CITY OWNS FOUR SOLID BLOCKS THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE
9:31:05AM UTILIZED.
9:31:05AM WAITING FOUR YEARS TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH
9:31:08AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:31:08AM I ATTENDED DOWNTOWN CRA MEETINGS EVERY SINGLE MONTH BECAUSE
9:31:11AM I DO REPRESENT THE STRAZ CENTER.
9:31:13AM JUST THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT TAMPA WOULD BE LIKE WITHOUT THE
9:31:17AM STRAZ CENTER, WITHOUT THE MUSEUM OF ART, WITHOUT THE
9:31:21AM AQUARIUM.
9:31:21AM JUST LIKE I WAS HERE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WITH THE VERY
9:31:24AM FIRST CRA WAS DEVELOPED FOR YBOR CITY.
9:31:28AM I DON'T REALLY THINK YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF
9:31:30AM DOING.
9:31:31AM YOU ALREADY SWEPT 30% OF THE CRA MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE
9:31:34AM HOUSING.
9:31:35AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
9:31:36AM NOW YOU'RE SWEEPING ANOTHER 50% TO DO WHAT?
9:31:40AM CRAs ARE SET UP FOR ONE REASON.
9:31:43AM SO THAT MONEY STAYS, WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN, WHETHER IT'S
9:31:47AM YBOR CITY, WHETHER IT'S WEST TAMPA, WHICH I WAS HERE TO HELP
9:31:50AM DEVELOP THE WEST TAMPA.
9:31:51AM FRANKLY I LIVE ONE BLOCK OUTSIDE THE WEST TAMPA CRA DISTRICT
9:31:56AM AND I DON'T BENEFIT BY THAT, BUT THE AREA AROUND ME WILL.
9:31:59AM I'M URGING YOU TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE
9:32:04AM ATTEMPTING TO DO BECAUSE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN TALLAHASSEE
9:32:08AM IS DYING TO GET RID OF ALL CRAs THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE
9:32:11AM STATE.
9:32:11AM WHATEVER TOOL YOU HAVE IN YOUR TOOLBOX THAT YOU HAVE
9:32:14AM AVAILABLE TO YOU NOW MAY GO BYE-BYE.
9:32:17AM IF THEY SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TODAY BY TAKING 50% OF
9:32:21AM THE CRA, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN 30%, THAT MEANS YOU'VE
9:32:24AM ALREADY SWEPT -- IT WILL BE 80% OF THE CRA MONEY AWAY.
9:32:28AM I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY TECHNICALLY CAN DO THAT.
9:32:31AM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. MASSEY, WHO HAS A LAW DEGREE AND
9:32:35AM I DON'T, IF YOU CAN GET A LAWYER TO TELL YOU YOU CAN DO
9:32:38AM THAT, I CAN GET YOU TEN LAWYERS THAT WILL TELL YOU YOU
9:32:41AM CAN'T.
9:32:42AM I WOULD TREAD VERY CAREFULLY ON MESSING AROUND WITH WHETHER
9:32:44AM IT'S DOWNTOWN, YBOR CITY, WEST TAMPA, AND REMOVING MONIES
9:32:47AM FROM CRA TO THIS DEGREE.
9:32:49AM I DON'T THINK IT'S SMART OR WISE.
9:32:52AM A LOT OF WORK, DOWNTOWN FRANKLIN STREET NOW, THERE'S NO MORE
9:32:56AM DOWNTOWN.
9:32:56AM THERE'S NO MORE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
9:32:58AM THERE'S NO MORE EXCITEMENT THAT THERE USED TO BE.
9:33:00AM PLEASE, I URGE YOU TO TREAD CAUTIOUSLY ON DOING THIS TODAY
9:33:04AM ON ITEM 8.
9:33:05AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NEXT COMMENT, PLEASE.
9:33:11AM >> GOOD MORNING TO EACH OF YOU.
9:33:12AM I'VE BEEN BEFORE THESE CHAMBERS SEVERAL TIMES.
9:33:16AM MY NAME IS JEFFREY JOHNSON.
9:33:18AM I WAS ELECTED TO THE CAC OF EAST TAMPA IN 2020.
9:33:25AM I WANT TO SHARE A LEVEL OF DYSFUNCTION THAT OUR CURRENT
9:33:29AM COMMITTEE IS DEFINITELY EXPERIENCING BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE
9:33:33AM CHANGES IN BOARD GOVERNANCE FOR THE CACs.
9:33:38AM WE ARE DEFINITELY EXPERIENCING THAT.
9:33:40AM SOME OF MY COMMENTS ARE ALSO DIRECTED TOWARDS LEGAL.
9:33:45AM I'VE MADE A FORMAL INQUIRY FOR US TO RECEIVE MORE
9:33:48AM INFORMATION.
9:33:50AM BASED UPON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, QUORUM IS ESTABLISHED
9:33:55AM BASED UPON THE SITTING MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE.
9:33:57AM WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS TO HAVE
9:34:02AM PERSONS APPOINTED, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ENACT THE BUSINESS OF
9:34:05AM THE PEOPLE OF EAST TAMPA.
9:34:07AM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, AND WE HAVE NOT
9:34:10AM BEEN ABLE TO DO SO FOR A SERIES OF MONTHS.
9:34:14AM SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT INQUIRY TO COME BACK.
9:34:19AM FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.
9:34:21AM MY DOCTORATE IS A Ph.D., SO NOT IN LAW.
9:34:25AM BUT FOR THERE TO BE SOME LEVEL OF WRITTEN VERBIAGE THAT WILL
9:34:30AM COME BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE OF WHY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ENACT
9:34:33AM BUSINESS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:34:36AM EVERY MONTH THAT WE COME FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WE'VE
9:34:39AM BEEN SITTING.
9:34:40AM OUR MEETINGS COULD BE PRIMARILY VIRTUAL BECAUSE WE CANNOT
9:34:44AM HANDLE ANY BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A QUORUM BECAUSE
9:34:46AM THE MAJORITY OF MEMBERS FOR THE EAST TAMPA CAC HAS NOT BEEN
9:34:52AM SELECTED OR APPOINTED BY THE CRA BOARD.
9:34:56AM THAT IS REALLY RESTRICTING A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE
9:34:59AM HAVE IN THE PIPELINE AND A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO
9:35:03AM BE MADE AND WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY DEFINITE DATA OF WHEN
9:35:07AM THOSE PERSONS WILL BE APPOINTED.
9:35:10AM WE SAID -- THEY WERE SAID THAT IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
9:35:14AM APPOINTED BY DECEMBER THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
9:35:16AM WE KNOW JANUARY IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND MANY OF OUR
9:35:20AM OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
9:35:21AM SO WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN?
9:35:23AM WE WILL BE INTO THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO
9:35:28AM HAVE OFFICIAL BUSINESS ENACTED BY THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
9:35:32AM NOW, I UNDERSTAND FOR MANY OF YOU THERE HAS BEEN A LEVEL OF
9:35:37AM DISTASTE OF HOW OUR CRA OR OUR CAC HAS BEEN RAN.
9:35:42AM IT'S BECAUSE PERSONS ARE PASSIONATE.
9:35:44AM WE MAY NOT ALL AGREE ON THE SAME THING, BUT OUR FOCUS IS THE
9:35:48AM RESIDENTS OF THAT EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
9:35:50AM I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THOSE MEETINGS AND SEE WHAT
9:35:53AM WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO BECAUSE A QUORUM CANNOT BE ESTABLISHED.
9:35:57AM SO I ASK FOR LEGAL TO LOOK AT THAT, LOOK AT ROBERT RULES OF
9:36:01AM ORDER WHEN IT COMES TO BOARD SELECTION THAT BASED ON THE
9:36:03AM MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOR THE CAC, WE DO HAVE A
9:36:08AM QUORUM TO ENACT THE BUSINESS OF THE COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA
9:36:10AM AND NOT WAIT ON THOSE WHO ARE APPOINTED.
9:36:13AM SO I WAIT TO HEAR BACK FROM LEGAL ABOUT THAT.
9:36:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
9:36:24AM AS A MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC, IF I SCREAM, SHOUT, OR
9:36:29AM KICK THE TABLES OVER, I DO IT ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE.
9:36:32AM A CRA THAT WAS FIRST DEVELOPED WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF
9:36:39AM REVEREND SCOTT, WE'RE STILL CONSIDERED A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY.
9:36:47AM NO MATTER HOW MUCH PAINT YOU PUT ON THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT'S
9:36:49AM THERE, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS THERE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE
9:36:55AM UP AND REMOVAL OF POVERTY OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:36:59AM 20 PLUS YEARS ALMOST THAT CRA HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE, AND WE
9:37:03AM ARE STILL WAITING.
9:37:05AM STILL WAITING EVEN AFTER YOU HAVE MADE GREAT PROMISES.
9:37:08AM SO ON THE AGENDA TODAY, AND I GET CONFUSED WHEN I LOOK AT
9:37:12AM THIS AGENDA BECAUSE I SEE ALL THE WONDERFUL PROMISES AND THE
9:37:16AM REPORTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM YOUR PET PROJECTS, BUT
9:37:19AM AS TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU SIGNED 568, WHY YOU SIGNED IT,
9:37:24AM WHY YOU WROTE IT AND BE IT RESOLVED YOU HAVE NOT DID
9:37:28AM ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
9:37:32AM THE PEOPLE THERE.
9:37:33AM YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THAT RESOLUTION AND PLEASE READ IT.
9:37:37AM FIND IT.
9:37:37AM BECAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE IT.
9:37:39AM GET IT.
9:37:40AM READ IT.
9:37:40AM SO YOU WILL SEE WHAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED YOURSELF TO.
9:37:45AM HOW DO YOU PLAN ON UPLIFTING THE COMMUNITY TOWARD
9:37:49AM INVESTMENTS ECONOMICALLY OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S LIVING BELOW
9:37:52AM THE POVERTY LEVEL.
9:37:54AM HOW YOU PLAN ON DOING THAT?
9:37:55AM HOW DO THIS AGENDA REFLECT ANY OF THAT EACH AND EVERY WEEK
9:37:59AM WE COME DOWN HERE.
9:38:01AM WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS CONTINUED MANIPULATION THAT I BEGIN TO
9:38:07AM UNDERSTAND HOW DISTRICT 5 EXPANDED AND HOW PART OF DOWNTOWN
9:38:11AM BECAME PART OF DISTRICT 5.
9:38:13AM BUT THE DOWNTOWN MONEY IN THAT CRA IS UTILIZED TO IMPROVE
9:38:20AM THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
9:38:21AM SO GENTRIFICATION HAS OCCURRED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:38:25AM WE'RE ASKING THAT WITH ITEM 8 THAT YOU UTILIZE THAT MONEY
9:38:31AM SINCE IT IS PART OF DISTRICT 5, SOME OF THOSE DOWNTOWN
9:38:35AM CRAs, TO IMPROVE AND LIVE UP TO YOUR COMMITMENT IN
9:38:42AM REDUCING POVERTY AND BLIGHT INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:38:45AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT POINT UNTIL WE SEE
9:38:49AM ACTUAL EXAMPLES OF IT, NOT SMALL FRAGMENTS OF IT, BUT REAL
9:38:54AM LIVE EXAMPLES.
9:38:55AM THANK YOU.
9:39:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:39:02AM KELLA McCASKILL, RESIDENT HERE IN TAMPA.
9:39:07AM I LOVE HOW THE GENTLEMAN WAS ABLE TO COME AND SHARE HIS
9:39:12AM CONCERNS AT THE CRA FOR THE FIRST TIME.
9:39:13AM HE COME AND HE SHARED CONCERNS ABOUT LOUD MUSIC.
9:39:17AM I'VE COME TO THIS PODIUM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES AND
9:39:20AM MANY OF US HAVE DONE THE SAME AND WE DIDN'T GET THE SAME
9:39:23AM RESPONSE, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND, HE
9:39:27AM GOT A RESPONSE.
9:39:28AM OUR CONCERNS ARE GREATER THAN LOUD MUSIC.
9:39:30AM I DON'T HAVE TO REGURGITATE WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IN EAST
9:39:32AM TAMPA.
9:39:33AM YOU ALL KNOW THEM.
9:39:34AM WHAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IS NO MATTER HOW OFTEN WE COME HERE,
9:39:37AM NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU CONTINUE TO SEE THE SAME THAT IS
9:39:40AM STAGNANT, STALE, WE ELIMINATED THE EXCUSES WE HEARD
9:39:44AM PREVIOUSLY.
9:39:45AM INADEQUATE STAFF.
9:39:46AM THEY WEREN'T EQUIPPED.
9:39:47AM OVERWHELMED.
9:39:48AM OVERWORKED.
9:39:49AM A LOT OF ADJECTIVES DESCRIBING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EAST
9:39:53AM TAMPA.
9:39:53AM I THINK RECENTLY THEY ELIMINATED A LOT OF THOSE EXCUSES YET
9:39:57AM WE STILL CAN'T GET WHAT WE WANT DONE.
9:40:00AM I SAY WE BECAUSE I'M SAYING IT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY.
9:40:04AM I'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS, YOU HAVE TOO BECAUSE I SHARED WITH
9:40:07AM YOU A VIDEO THAT'S NOT JUST ME AND THE OTHER FEW THAT YOU
9:40:10AM USUALLY SEE.
9:40:10AM NOW, I WILL SAY IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU ONLY HEAR FROM TWO
9:40:13AM OR THREE.
9:40:14AM WHEN IT COMES TO EAST TAMPA, YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE
9:40:16AM MAJORITY.
9:40:18AM THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND SAY THE SAME
9:40:21AM THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR YOU TO DO ABSOLUTELY
9:40:24AM NOTHING.
9:40:24AM I'M NOT SAYING ALL OF YOU DO NOTHING, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT
9:40:28AM BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT US TO CALL NAMES, BECAUSE I COULD,
9:40:31AM BUT WE WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING.
9:40:33AM I'M SAYING WE'VE ELIMINATED THE EXCUSE.
9:40:36AM ONCE WE'VE GOTTEN IT TO WHERE YOU CAN HALFWAY DO SOMETHING,
9:40:40AM THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FROM THE STAFF, NO PUN INTENDED,
9:40:43AM THEY ARE GENIUS, WELL THE NEWLY APPOINTED STAFF, THEY ARE
9:40:47AM GENIUSES.
9:40:48AM THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FROM WHO WRITES THEIR CHECK OR
9:40:51AM SIGNS THEIR CHECK WAS TO ELIMINATE THE VOICE OF THE
9:40:53AM COMMUNITY.
9:40:54AM WHY?
9:40:54AM IN ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE
9:40:58AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:40:58AM YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YOU IN YOUR
9:41:01AM SEATS.
9:41:01AM BUT IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WAS TO
9:41:05AM ELIMINATE THE COMMUNITY.
9:41:09AM WHY?
9:41:09AM WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW -- AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT --
9:41:13AM THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YOU IN, THEY WERE COMPETENT ENOUGH TO
9:41:16AM GET YOU HERE.
9:41:16AM THEY WERE COMPETENT ENOUGH TO SAY THEY WANTED YOU OR DIDN'T
9:41:20AM WANT YOU.
9:41:21AM REGARDLESS IF THEY VOTED FOR YOU OR NOT, ALL SEVEN OF YOU
9:41:24AM REPRESENT EAST TAMPA AS WELL BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A VOTE
9:41:26AM WHEN DECISIONS COME.
9:41:27AM WE RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION WE FEEL.
9:41:29AM WE CALL ALL OF YOU TO SAY, HEY, SOMEBODY COME HELP.
9:41:33AM WE DON'T LIKE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AND OUR ASK SO WE CAN
9:41:36AM FURTHER COMMUNICATE RATHER THAN HAVE THIS MONOLOGUE, WE WANT
9:41:40AM A DIALOGUE AND HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IS A SPECIAL
9:41:43AM CALL MEETING.
9:41:43AM HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT PAY TAXES IN THIS
9:41:45AM DISTRICT, SOME 20, 30, 40 YEARS PLUS AND THE STAFF, BECAUSE
9:41:48AM THE STAFF, YOU SHOULD FEEL HORRIBLE THAT YOU WOULD LISTEN TO
9:41:54AM A STAFF THAT DOES NOT PAY ONE PENNY IN TAXES IN EAST TAMPA,
9:41:57AM YET YOU ALLOW THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR EAST TAMPA BECAUSE
9:42:00AM YOU HAVEN'T CALLED US, HAVEN'T CALLED ANY OF THE PEOPLE
9:42:03AM MAKING THE DECISIONS.
9:42:04AM WE WANT A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
9:42:05AM I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL MAKE THE MOTION.
9:42:06AM HOPEFULLY YOU WILL DO IT TODAY.
9:42:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:42:08AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:42:12AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:42:16AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU.
9:42:19AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:42:23AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE, FIRST NATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, INDIGENOUS
9:42:27AM INDIVIDUALS, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR FREEDOM.
9:42:31AM WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR FREEDOM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD
9:42:37AM ALWAYS UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE ARE OWED REPARATIONS.
9:42:46AM AND WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT REPARATIONS AND OUR FREEDOM
9:42:51AM AND INDEPENDENCE AND SELF-DETERMINATION WE SHOULD ALWAYS
9:42:57AM UNDERSTAND THAT THE RULING SOCIETY, THE RULING CLASS, THE
9:43:03AM WHITE MIDDLE CLASS, THE WHITE POOR AND WORKING CLASS, WHITE
9:43:06AM PEOPLE IN GENERAL HAVE A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED FOR AFRICAN
9:43:13AM PEOPLE, NO MATTER HOW THEY SMILE IN YOUR FACE, PAT YOU ON
9:43:16AM THE BACK, TOUCH YOU ON THE HEAD, SAY YOU DANCE GOOD, YOU
9:43:20AM LOOK GOOD, YOU PLAY GOOD BASKETBALL.
9:43:22AM YOU CATCH THE FOOTBALL REALLY NICE.
9:43:25AM YOU ARE A GOOD ACTOR.
9:43:27AM YOU CAN SING REALLY GOOD.
9:43:30AM THEY SAY YOU ARE A GOOD RAPPER.
9:43:32AM WHATSOEVER THEY SAY ABOUT YOU THEY HAVE A HATRED FOR US.
9:43:36AM AND IT'S A REAL HATRED.
9:43:38AM YOU SEE IT EXPRESSED EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
9:43:42AM WE SEE IN THIS CITY THEY NORMALLY TRICK AFRICANS WITH, HEY,
9:43:46AM WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
9:43:48AM WE'RE BRINGING THE BUCCANEERS.
9:43:50AM VOTE FOR THIS.
9:43:50AM VOTE FOR AN ADDITIONAL TAX.
9:43:52AM VOTE FOR A TAX FROM THE POLICE.
9:43:54AM VOTE FOR A TAX FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO
9:43:56AM DO THIS.
9:43:57AM WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND NOTHING IS
9:43:59AM DONE.
9:44:00AM SO THEY TALK ABOUT GENTRIFICATION.
9:44:03AM BUT WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING HERE, THAT'S MILD GENTRIFICATION.
9:44:08AM WHAT WE JUST SEEN HAPPEN A FEW MONTHS AGO IN HAWAII, THAT'S
9:44:12AM CALLED RADICAL GENTRIFICATION.
9:44:14AM AND WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW GOING ON IN PALESTINE, THAT'S THE
9:44:18AM HEIGHT OF GENTRIFICATION.
9:44:24AM THOUSAND WOMEN AND CHILDREN DYING PER DAY, GETTING MURDERED
9:44:28AM PER DAY IN PALESTINE, GENTRIFICATION.
9:44:35AM SO WHEN YOU THINK IN TERMS OF HOW IT COMES BACK TO MODERATE
9:44:40AM AND MILD AND SLOW GENTRIFICATION, THINK ABOUT THE IGNORANT
9:44:45AM THINGS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:44:47AM RED, BLUE, GREEN LIGHTS UNDER THE RIVERWALK.
9:44:52AM ALL KINDS OF STUPIDNESS.
9:44:55AM DEVELOPERS THAT'S NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE AND THEY GET A
9:44:59AM NICE LITTLE LICK IN TAMPA.
9:45:00AM WHILE WE ARE IN ROADS.
9:45:03AM ANYBODY FIX THE ROADS?
9:45:04AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD SOUTH OF GANDY TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
9:45:08AM AND COLUMBUS DRIVE.
9:45:12AM IT'S HORRIFIC.
9:45:14AM BUT THE PEOPLE NEED REPRESENTATION AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE
9:45:17AM YOU HERE FOR AND WE EXPECT THAT.
9:45:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:45:19AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:45:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
9:45:26AM JOSEPH CITRO, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33611.
9:45:30AM THREE MONTHS AGO, I PUT AN APPLICATION FOR VOLUNTEER
9:45:37AM POSITION AS A COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CRA BOARD.
9:45:43AM WITH MY INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND HAVING BEEN A MEMBER OF
9:45:48AM THAT BOARD BACK WHEN IT WAS FOUNDED AS THE YCDC FOR SIX
9:45:54AM YEARS, I FEEL I DO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO REPRESENT THE
9:45:59AM PEOPLE OF YBOR CITY.
9:46:01AM I WAS CHOSEN AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE YBOR CITY ROTARY
9:46:07AM CLUB.
9:46:09AM I'M SINCERELY ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE TO THIS VOLUNTEER
9:46:20AM POSITION ON THE CAC.
9:46:24AM AGAIN, I DO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE.
9:46:27AM I AM WELL REPRESENTED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AND I FEEL THAT
9:46:30AM I WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE CAC.
9:46:34AM THANK YOU, BOARD.
9:46:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:46:35AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:46:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
9:46:39AM IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
9:46:40AM BUT HOPE YOU HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T FORGET
9:46:45AM ABOUT YOU.
9:46:45AM I WANT TO SHOUT-OUT NEWS CHANNEL 8 AND GAFFNEY.
9:46:47AM I THOUGHT I WAS SPECIAL AND YOU ONLY STOLE MY HOUSE.
9:46:51AM COME TO FIND OUT THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA JUST TAKES ANYBODY'S
9:46:53AM HOUSES EVEN IF IT IS YOUR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY.
9:46:56AM IF I COULD HAVE THE PROJECTOR FOR A MOMENT SO I CAN REFRESH
9:47:00AM EVERYONE'S MEMORY.
9:47:01AM I'M NOT GOING TO PUT ANYTHING VILE.
9:47:06AM THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST I PUT IN.
9:47:08AM SORRY ABOUT THE ORIENTATION.
9:47:13AM I AIN'T GIVING YOU THE $10,000, BUT I HAD $23 BUT NOT AS
9:47:18AM MUCH AS YOU HAD TO BEFORE.
9:47:19AM I'LL GET TO THOSE 7,000 MISSING E-MAILS AND TEXTS THAT GOT
9:47:23AM ME PROSECUTED AND NOBODY SEEMED TO HAVE.
9:47:26AM I'LL EVEN GET TO THE PART ABOUT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER NOT
9:47:29AM BELIEVING THE PROPERTIES WERE MINE DESPITE ME HAVING THE
9:47:32AM DEED AND THE PROPERTY LISTED IN MY NAME.
9:47:35AM I WANTED TO SHOW EVERYBODY THIS.
9:47:36AM I ACTUALLY KEPT THIS.
9:47:38AM IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THE ADDRESS THERE.
9:47:42AM THAT'S 4336 SPINNAKER COVE LANE.
9:47:49AM I LOST THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT A DAY IN COURT.
9:47:52AM I WON'T GET INTO THE CONSTITUTION OR FLORIDA'S CONSTITUTION
9:47:57AM EITHER.
9:47:57AM BUT WHAT I WANTED YOU ALL TO DO TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THIS.
9:48:02AM I NEED EVERYBODY TO TELL WHOMEVER AT THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:48:07AM POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIND THE WITNESS REPORT THAT SOMEBODY HAD
9:48:09AM TO TURN INTO YOUR POLICE OFFICER TO INITIATE THE
9:48:12AM INVESTIGATION.
9:48:15AM WON THE PROCEEDING, THE SHAM ALLEGATION AGAINST ME THAT HAD
9:48:23AM ME FACING FIVE YEARS IN PRISON, I WON THAT.
9:48:25AM WE KNOW NOW AND SURE HE KNOWS AS WELL, OVER HERE IN THE
9:48:28AM MIDDLE OF THE DISTRICT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW GO TO THE
9:48:32AM 11th CIRCUIT ABOUT HOW A JUDGE WHO WASN'T OPERATING IN HIS
9:48:36AM CAPACITY GOT JUDICIAL IMMUNITY FOR LYING ON ME TO GET ME
9:48:41AM ARRESTED.
9:48:41AM BUT NONETHELESS, I'LL SAY JUST FIND THE WITNESS REPORT THAT
9:48:47AM HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO TURN OVER TO YOUR OFFICER.
9:48:50AM IT WASN'T AN ENORMOUS TIP KIND OF SITUATION.
9:48:53AM THERE HAD TO BE SOME SORT OF AFFIDAVIT FILED BY A VICTIM WHO
9:48:59AM CLAIMED THAT DID X, Y, Z, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PERJURING
9:49:03AM HIMSELF IN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING.
9:49:05AM TOOK IT TO THE POLICE OFFICER.
9:49:07AM THE POLICE OFFICER WOULD HAVE USED THAT INFORMATION TO
9:49:10AM CREATE NOT ONLY TO START HIS INVESTIGATION BUT ALSO TO
9:49:13AM PRODUCE THE CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT, WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW
9:49:16AM IS A FABRICATION AND I'M DEALING WITH THAT.
9:49:19AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
9:49:21AM I'D LOVE TO GET ANY OF MY FOUR PROPERTIES BACK.
9:49:24AM SHOUT-OUT AGAIN TO TERESA GAFFNEY, NEWS CHANNEL 8 AND, OF
9:49:28AM COURSE, THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF LEARNING, THE UNIVERSITY
9:49:31AM OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
9:49:32AM YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
9:49:33AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME TO THE CLERK FOR THE
9:49:35AM RECORD, SIR.
9:49:37AM >> I'M STILL SHGRET --
9:49:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:49:41AM GOOD MORNING.
9:49:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHAIR, CHAIRWOMAN
9:49:46AM HENDERSON, THANK YOU ALL.
9:49:47AM HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
9:49:48AM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ITEM 5.
9:49:53AM I'M SANDY MURMAN.
9:49:55AM I'M IN PUBLIC SERVICE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME.
9:49:58AM I WANT TO SAY ITEM 5 IS A GREAT INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:50:04AM IT'S A GAME CHANGER.
9:50:06AM ONCE EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE DOWN THERE, IT WILL BE SO
9:50:08AM ICONIC.
9:50:09AM IT WILL REALLY REPRESENT AND BE SYMBOLIC, I THINK, FOR OUR
9:50:13AM COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WE'RE IMPROVING A CITY ASSET.
9:50:17AM I THINK THAT IS THE CRITICAL NEED THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY.
9:50:22AM BUT YOU GUYS ARE GREAT STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC'S DOLLARS.
9:50:26AM I JUST APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
9:50:28AM THANK YOU.
9:50:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:50:31AM GOOD MORNING.
9:50:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:50:35AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:50:36AM ERICA MOODY GAVE ME THIS CHART.
9:50:43AM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE COUNTY IS NO LONGER
9:50:47AM CONTRIBUTING TO THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
9:50:48AM SO, WHY NOT?
9:50:51AM MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S TIME TO SUNSET.
9:50:57AM EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT I GO TO, PEOPLE ARE
9:50:59AM COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR SIDEWALKS, THE ROADS, THE PUBLIC
9:51:02AM SAFETY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
9:51:05AM WE WENT THROUGH THE FISTFIGHT OF ALL FIST FIGHTS, OVER $42
9:51:08AM MILLION.
9:51:09AM YET THIS DOWNTOWN CRA HAS GOT POCKETS FULL OF MONEY.
9:51:12AM AND IT'S NOT -- IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
9:51:17AM 75% CAN STAY THERE.
9:51:20AM 50% CAN STAY THERE.
9:51:21AM WHATEVER.
9:51:22AM I REALLY DON'T CARE.
9:51:24AM BUT IT'S TIME FOR IT TO BE PUT TO BED.
9:51:26AM IT'S DONE ITS JOB.
9:51:30AM IT'S TO CURE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
9:51:32AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT AND PLEASE BEAR WITH ME FOR
9:51:35AM JUST A SECOND.
9:51:36AM ITEM NUMBER 4, I HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH.
9:51:41AM THIS IS TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
9:51:44AM OKAY?
9:51:44AM THE CENTRAL PARK CRA, THE BUDGET THIS YEAR IS $1.2 MILLION.
9:51:49AM THERE IS A DEVELOPER HERE THAT WANTS TO WITHHOLD FOR THE
9:51:55AM NEXT 11 YEARS, 9.9 MILLION --
9:51:59AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
9:52:01AM I'M SORRY.
9:52:23AM IF YOU'RE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING
9:52:26AM FOR THE COMMUNITY, PLEASE GIVE ME SOME OF MY TAX DOLLARS
9:52:29AM BACK.
9:52:29AM I PROVIDE THEM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:52:32AM I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH.
9:52:35AM IT'S OVER THE TOP.
9:52:37AM WE STILL HAVE THE $50 MILLION THAT WAS GIFTED TO BILL GATES
9:52:41AM AND JEFF VINIK WHO HAVE MORE MONEY THAN I'LL EVER BE ABLE TO
9:52:46AM DREAM OF.
9:52:46AM DOWNTOWN CRA HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1983.
9:52:49AM LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, OH, MY GOODNESS, I HAVE TIME
9:52:53AM LEFT OVER.
9:52:54AM I MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK.
9:52:55AM MR. CITRO, BOTTOM LINE IS, HE HAS NOT SPOKEN TO ME SINCE
9:53:02AM AUGUST OF 2022.
9:53:04AM I WORK WITH ALL OF YOU.
9:53:06AM I'VE WORKED WITH ALL -- A LOT OF THESE FOLKS HERE AND A LOT
9:53:09AM OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
9:53:11AM HE MADE A DECISION BECAUSE I SAID SOMETHING HE DOESN'T LIKE,
9:53:15AM HE HASN'T SPOKE TO ME SINCE THAT TIME.
9:53:17AM I TOLD HIM THEN, SIR, 26 YEARS I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO MY
9:53:21AM HUSBAND.
9:53:22AM I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH HIM EITHER.
9:53:24AM BUT WE STILL SPEAK TO EACH OTHER AND WE STILL ACT LIKE
9:53:29AM ADULTS.
9:53:29AM HE CAME INTO A PARTY I HAD A MONTH AND A HALF AGO AND DID
9:53:32AM NOT SPEAK TO ME.
9:53:33AM WENT TO THE BAR, HAD A BEER, TURNED AROUND AND LEFT.
9:53:37AM I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S NOT PARTICIPATING IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
9:53:40AM THANK YOU.
9:53:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THE FINAL SPEAKER.
9:53:43AM NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR REPORT FROM EAST TAMPA.
9:53:51AM ATTORNEY CLINT PARIS, IS HE IN THE ROOM?
9:53:53AM GOOD MORNING.
9:53:54AM GOOD MORNING, MR. McCRAY.
9:54:00AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA MANAGER.
9:54:04AM I HAVE THE PLEASURE AND HONOR OF INTRODUCING OUR
9:54:06AM REPRESENTATIVE FROM EAST TAMPA, CAC, TO GIVE A REPORT AND
9:54:09AM UPDATE ON THE EAST TAMPA CAC, AND THAT IS ATTORNEY CLINT
9:54:13AM PARIS.
9:54:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, MR. PARIS, JEFFERSON HIGH
9:54:16AM SCHOOL.
9:54:17AM >>CLINT PARIS: GOOD MORNING.
9:54:18AM JEFFERSON IS WELL REPRESENTED ACROSS THE BOARD THIS MORNING,
9:54:20AM I SEE.
9:54:20AM I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.
9:54:22AM FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE.
9:54:25AM ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE NEED TO CORRECT THE RECORD.
9:54:27AM I AM NOT THE CHAIRPERSON.
9:54:29AM THAT TERM EXPIRED UNDER THE PREVIOUS ELECTION.
9:54:35AM AS YOU HEARD PREVIOUSLY WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO VOTE ON OUR
9:54:41AM NEW LEADERSHIP FOR THIS YEAR.
9:54:43AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEARING THE RECORD.
9:54:47AM FOR THE MOST PART, I'VE BEEN REFERRING TO MYSELF AS A
9:54:50AM FACILITATOR, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU ALL.
9:54:52AM I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THIS IS JUST TO UPDATE
9:54:56AM YOU ALL ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND MAYBE
9:55:00AM INVOLVE A DIALOGUE.
9:55:00AM THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA IS THE FIRST
9:55:04AM THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
9:55:05AM SCHEDULED FOR UPDATE.
9:55:07AM IMPERATIVE WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
9:55:09AM IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE UPDATED SEPTEMBER 25 OF 2023.
9:55:14AM AND IT CLOSED ON THE PROPOSALS ON NOVEMBER 3 OF 2023 AND
9:55:21AM ADVERTISED FOR 60 DAY PERIOD LEADING UP TO THAT.
9:55:24AM WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES THAT ARE BEING EVALUATED.
9:55:27AM THE DEADLINE WAS EXTENDED BACK IN NOVEMBER TO NOVEMBER
9:55:32AM 30th.
9:55:32AM SO THREE FIRMS NOW THAT RESPOND TO RFP AFTER THE DEADLINE
9:55:38AM WAS EXTENDED.
9:55:39AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR -- LOOKING FORWARD TO THE APPLICANT
9:55:43AM PRESENTATION.
9:55:44AM THE SCOPE DEVELOPED BY THE EAST TAMPA CAC AND APPROVED BY
9:55:46AM THE CRA BOARD REQUIRES A ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
9:55:52AM OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY FORUMS.
9:55:54AM THE EAST TAMPA CAC MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS, MAIL, AND ONLINE
9:55:59AM SURVEYS.
9:56:00AM AND, OF COURSE, THE IMPLEMENTATION IS THE KEY COMPONENT FOR
9:56:03AM THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS.
9:56:10AM KEY PIECE TO FIT THE PROJECTS IN.
9:56:11AM THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS HOW WE GO ABOUT BRINGING THOSE
9:56:14AM PROJECTS TO LIFE.
9:56:15AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED, I'VE LEARNED OVER THE
9:56:18AM PERIOD OF TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE CAC, WHICH IS ABOUT FOUR
9:56:21AM YEARS NOW, IS THAT IT'S GOT TO BE IN THE CFP.
9:56:25AM IF IT'S NOT IN THERE, THEN WHATEVER PROJECT YOU'RE
9:56:28AM PRESENTING YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAYBE AMEND IT OR DO
9:56:32AM SOMETHING ELSE.
9:56:32AM BUT THAT'S BEEN A KEY FEATURE WHY WE NEED TO GET THIS THING
9:56:35AM UPDATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
9:56:36AM OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST TALKING.
9:56:39AM WE NEED TO HAVE WHAT THE COMMUNITY WILL BENEFIT FROM IN THAT
9:56:43AM PLAN, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT TAKES PLACE.
9:56:45AM I'M HOPING WE CAN GET IT DONE BEFORE I TERM OUT, WHICH IS
9:56:49AM THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
9:56:51AM LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS WE'VE
9:56:53AM HAD, WHICH IS THE EAST TAMPA ROOFING PROGRAM.
9:56:56AM WE'VE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS OVER THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR AND
9:57:01AM THE EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS, 70 PLUS ROOFS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED
9:57:06AM AND WE KNOW WITH HURRICANES AND STORMS AND THINGS OF THIS
9:57:10AM NATURE, HAVING A GOOD ROOF IS IMPORTANT.
9:57:13AM ALSO FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES.
9:57:14AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, I JUST GOT A $9,000 INCREASE IN
9:57:18AM MY HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
9:57:19AM THAT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
9:57:21AM WE'LL TALK TO SOMEBODY ELSE ABOUT THAT.
9:57:23AM IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE GETTING THEIR ROOFS TAKEN
9:57:26AM CARE OF WHO CAN'T FINANCIALLY DO IT THEMSELVES OR NEED.
9:57:30AM OF COURSE, THIS GOES TO THE ISSUE THAT THE CRA CREATED FOR,
9:57:34AM WHICH IS ADDRESSING BLIGHT.
9:57:36AM WE'VE HEARD SOME COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT SOME OTHER ENTITIES
9:57:39AM THAT MAY ENHANCE JUST LIVING, BUT KEEPING A GOOD ROOF IN
9:57:43AM SOME OF OUR NEEDIER RESIDENTS' HOMES IS AN ISSUE OF BLIGHT.
9:57:50AM 1,084,947 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 ON ROOF REPLACEMENT IN EAST
9:57:55AM TAMPA, THE CRA.
9:57:56AM WHAT'S REALLY BEEN REFRESHING ARE THE RESIDENTS OF EAST
9:58:00AM TAMPA WHO RECEIVED ROOFS HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE
9:58:04AM OF THAT WORK BECAUSE THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING AT SITUATIONS
9:58:07AM WHERE THEY PROBABLY COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THE HELP
9:58:10AM OF THE CRA.
9:58:11AM THE OTHER PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR A VERY
9:58:15AM LONG TIME THAT IS REALLY, REALLY I THINK IMPACTING EAST
9:58:19AM TAMPA IS THE HOUSING DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
9:58:22AM AND THIS IS WHERE WE ASSIST HOMEOWNERS, FIRST-TIME
9:58:25AM HOMEOWNERS, RETURNING RESIDENTS, CURRENT RESIDENTS OF EAST
9:58:28AM TAMPA WITH GETTING INTO A HOME.
9:58:31AM 30 PLUS RESIDENTS HAVE RECEIVED DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE
9:58:34AM THROUGH THE EAST TAMPA CRA FUNDS.
9:58:38AM TOTAL OF 2023 IS $805,000.
9:58:41AM THAT ASSISTANCE REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THESE PEOPLE
9:58:46AM BEING ABLE TO AFFORD WHAT WE NOW KNOW INCREASING MORTGAGE
9:58:49AM COSTS TO BUY A HOME.
9:58:51AM ALSO, THE FABRIC OF A COMMUNITY IS HOME OWNERSHIP.
9:58:57AM OWNING A HOME IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU CAN DO
9:59:01AM TO ELEVATE YOUR FINANCIAL STATUS THE WAY THAT OUR FINANCIAL
9:59:04AM STRUCTURE IS SET UP.
9:59:05AM ALSO FOR GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
9:59:07AM IF YOU CAN BUY A HOME AND TRANSFER THAT GENERATIONALLY, IT
9:59:11AM REALLY JUST CHANGES THE DYNAMIC OF THE EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE
9:59:13AM PEOPLE LIVING IN COMMUNITIES AND IT MAKES FOR A MORE STABLE
9:59:16AM COMMUNITY.
9:59:17AM SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
9:59:20AM THIS PROGRAM ALSO ALLOWED US TO HAVE RIBBON CUTTINGS.
9:59:25AM PARTICULARLY OVER THE HIGHLAND PINES.
9:59:27AM IT'S KIND OF HOT AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO INVEST IN A BIGGER
9:59:31AM TENT TO GET MORE SHADE, BUT IT WAS VERY HOT OUT THERE, BUT
9:59:34AM WE HAD THREE HOMES THAT WE WENT OUT TO HAVE RIBBON CUTTINGS.
9:59:37AM IT WAS A VERY EXCITING TIME OVER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:59:40AM OUR PROGRAM THAT WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT AND IT'S ADDING
9:59:44AM TO THE STOCK OF RESIDENTIAL HOME OWNERSHIP IN EAST TAMPA AND
9:59:48AM SLOWING SOME OF THAT TREND TOWARD THE RENTAL AND THINGS OF
9:59:51AM THAT NATURE WHICH CAN BE DESTABILIZING TO THE FABRIC OF A
9:59:54AM COMMUNITY.
9:59:55AM ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF AND I WANT TO
9:59:57AM REPORT ON TODAY IS THE EAST TAMPA CRA GRANTS.
10:00:01AM AND THIS IS A PROGRAM WHERE WE ASSIST BUSINESSES WITH
10:00:04AM AMPLIFYING THEIR PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, UPGRADING THEIR
10:00:09AM STRUCTURE AND WHAT SERVICES THEY CAN PROVIDE.
10:00:12AM PARTICULARLY ONE OF OUR SUCCESSES IS THE OPEN CAFE.
10:00:15AM HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE BEEN OVER, HAD A MEAL OR TWO THERE.
10:00:19AM I OFTENTIMES USE IT AS MY CLIENT MEETING LOCATION.
10:00:23AM IT'S REALLY DISPLACING ME WHEN IT WAS CLOSED DOWN.
10:00:26AM BUT THAT'S LOCATED AT 3222 NORTH 34th AND IS A STAPLE OF
10:00:32AM THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY AND THEY RECEIVE THEIR RESTAURANT
10:00:34AM AND FOOD SERVICES GRANT TO IMPROVE THE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL
10:00:39AM APPEARANCE OF THEIR BUILDING.
10:00:40AM ALSO, THE WELLNESS HUB.
10:00:42AM I GOT A GIGGLE OUT OF THIS BECAUSE I WAS TALKING WITH CEDRIC
10:00:46AM ABOUT THIS, SO PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH OLD CLUB
10:00:49AM 1828.
10:00:50AM THIS IS LOCATED AT 5110 NORTH 40th STREET.
10:00:53AM I SAID WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ST. LOU'S, RIGHT.
10:00:56AM IN MY GENERATION, IT THEN BECAME 1828, A NIGHTCLUB
10:01:02AM ESTABLISHMENT THAT PEOPLE FREQUENTED.
10:01:04AM IT IS NOW A WELLNESS HUB WHICH I THINK AT MY AGE WILL
10:01:09AM CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THE COMMUNITY THAN THE OLD NIGHTCLUB
10:01:12AM CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:01:13AM IT IS A PHARMACY, WELLNESS CLINIC AND MEDICAL RETAIL
10:01:18AM LOCATION FOR EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS AND IT'S IN WALKING
10:01:20AM DISTANCE.
10:01:21AM SO A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY
10:01:24AM WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
10:01:26AM ANOTHER PROJECT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE PIPELINE LOCATED
10:01:32AM AT 4319 40th STREET.
10:01:35AM YOU MAY KNOW IT AS THE OLD POSEY POWER BATTERIES LOCATION.
10:01:38AM THEY RECEIVED THE FACADE GRANT TO IMPROVE THE DETERIORATED
10:01:43AM METAL BUILDING, PAINT AND PARKING LOT WAS RESURFACED AS
10:01:46AM WELL.
10:01:47AM THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THE BUSINESS GRANTS.
10:01:49AM WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN FACILITATE MORE OF THOSE THROUGH
10:01:52AM THE PIPELINE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
10:01:55AM I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TAMPA OVERLAY CHANGES.
10:01:58AM THAT IS FROM THE TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
10:02:01AM YOU KNOW THAT FOR A LONG TIME IN ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE,
10:02:05AM WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH A GOOD
10:02:08AM PLAN THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
10:02:10AM BUT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
10:02:13AM DISTRICT IS TO REGULATE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT WHILE
10:02:17AM PRESERVING THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING COMMUNITY
10:02:21AM AND PROMOTE A MORE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC AND VIABLE FUTURE.
10:02:25AM WE'RE -- THERE IS A LOT OF ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON THESE
10:02:30AM COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION AND
10:02:33AM COSTS TO LIVE IN THE OUT-OF-COUNTY AREAS.
10:02:36AM THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE.
10:02:37AM SO THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHILE THAT PRESSURE IS IN PLACE
10:02:40AM WILL ALLOW THESE COMMUNITIES TO MAINTAIN THEIR CHARACTER
10:02:43AM WHILE IMPLEMENTING AND BRINGING IN NEW PEOPLE INTO THE
10:02:46AM COMMUNITY.
10:02:46AM THE APPROVED CODE AMENDMENT AMENDED EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
10:02:49AM DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL AS A SCHEDULE PERMITTED
10:02:53AM FOR USES FOR SOMETHING CALLED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
10:02:58AM I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT
10:03:01AM THOSE.
10:03:02AM WITH THE COSTS NOW FOR LIVING AND RENT AND MULTIGENERATIONS
10:03:06AM LIVING IN HOMES, ADDING THESE ADDITIONAL LIVING UNITS, EAST
10:03:12AM TAMPA, AS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, WAS AN IMPORTANT THING.
10:03:16AM THE CHANGES ALLOW INCLUDING ADUs, LOTS OF RECORD, SETBACK
10:03:21AM ORIENTATION, PERMITTED CARPORT AND GARAGE LOCATIONS, PARKING
10:03:26AM REQUIREMENTS, ALLEYWAY ACCESS, AND TRANSPORTATION
10:03:29AM REQUIREMENT.
10:03:29AM IN EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA ARE REALLY SIMILAR AND THEY
10:03:33AM HAVE A LOT OF THESE ALLEYWAYS THAT ARE NOT AS USEFUL AS THEY
10:03:40AM USED TO BE.
10:03:40AM I REMEMBER AS A CHILD, THE GARBAGE TRUCK CAME DOWN THE
10:03:44AM ALLEY.
10:03:44AM YOU DID YOUR GARBAGE OUT BACK AND YOU ACCESSED YOUR HOME
10:03:48AM PARKING AREA FROM THE REAR.
10:03:50AM THAT'S KIND OF GONE OUT OF STYLE NOW.
10:03:53AM DEALING WITH THE ALLEYWAYS AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE NOT
10:03:56AM EYESORES OR PLACES FOR VAGRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS
10:04:01AM IMPORTANT.
10:04:01AM THE LAST THING I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS SOMETHING YOU'VE HEARD
10:04:03AM FROM A COUPLE OF THE OTHER CAC MEMBERS THAT WERE UP HERE.
10:04:08AM AND THAT IS ABOUT THE CAC RESTRUCTURE, CRA RESTRUCTURING AS
10:04:12AM WELL.
10:04:12AM I FEEL LIKE THE DAY I WAS JOINED THE EAST TAMPA CAC WAS THE
10:04:19AM DAY MR. JOHNSON ANNOUNCED HE WAS RESIGNING, THAT VERY DAY.
10:04:25AM HE TOOK WITH HIM A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INSTITUTIONAL
10:04:27AM KNOWLEDGE.
10:04:28AM IT WAS EXTREMELY DESTABILIZING AND PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT
10:04:33AM FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY HAD BEEN A PART OF EXACTLY
10:04:35AM WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING, US TRYING TO GUIDE THE CAC AND IT'S
10:04:41AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
10:04:43AM THEN WE LOST ALL OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS.
10:04:45AM I MEAN ALL OF THE STAFF MEMBERS SLOWLY TRICKLED OUT THE
10:04:49AM DOOR.
10:04:50AM WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO THIS BY BRINGING IN A WHITE KNIGHT
10:04:54AM AND THROWING A CAPE ON CEDRIC.
10:04:56AM DRUG HIM BACK DOWN HERE FROM UP NORTH BECAUSE IT WAS COLD
10:04:59AM AND HE WANTED TO BE BACK WHERE IT WAS WARM.
10:05:01AM WE LOVE HIM AND SUPPORT HIM.
10:05:03AM WE DRUG HIM BACK DOWN HERE.
10:05:05AM THOUGHT HIS SHOULDERS WERE BIG ENOUGH TO CARRY THIS THING
10:05:09AM FORWARD AND HE HAS STEPPED IN AND CARRIED A LOT OF THE
10:05:11AM BURDEN.
10:05:12AM BUT EVEN MORE CHANGES CAME.
10:05:13AM WE'VE NOW GOT A NEW CRA DIRECTOR AND SHE, OF COURSE, IS
10:05:17AM TRYING TO FAMILIARIZE HERSELF WITH A LOT OF THE INTRICACIES
10:05:21AM THAT IMPACT EAST TAMPA AND ALL THE CRAs AT THE SAME TIME.
10:05:24AM WE'RE DEMANDING.
10:05:25AM WE SPEAK UP.
10:05:26AM WE WANT TO BE HEARD AND WE WANT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY AND
10:05:29AM JUSTLY BY OUR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
10:05:32AM SO THE RESTRUCTURING HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY DESTABILIZING
10:05:36AM FOR US.
10:05:36AM YOU HEARD EARLIER FROM DR. JOHNSON SAY WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE
10:05:40AM TO HAVE A QUORUM FOR MONTHS.
10:05:43AM FOR MONTHS WE'VE BEEN SHOWING UP SITTING THERE, GOING OVER
10:05:47AM AGENDAS, DISCUSSING THINGS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE
10:05:51AM DECISION TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM WAS DONE A LITTLE TOO FAST,
10:05:56AM LITTLE TOO HAPHAZARDLY AND THE BACKFILL, THE PARTICIPATION
10:05:59AM AND LEADERSHIP FROM THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE ANTICIPATED HAS
10:06:03AM NOT COME TO FRUITION AS EASILY.
10:06:05AM I'M OFTEN ON THE PHONE WITH CEDRIC IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
10:06:08AM NIGHT.
10:06:09AM DRIVING AROUND, COMING FROM SOME ASSOCIATION MEETING WHILE
10:06:11AM HE'S OUT TRYING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE TO PUT APPLICATIONS IN SO
10:06:15AM THEY CAN BE APPOINTED TO THE CAC.
10:06:17AM ALSO, WHAT'S REALLY BEEN DESTABILIZING IS SEVERING SUDDENLY
10:06:22AM THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP.
10:06:24AM THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP WAS THE FOUNDATION BY WHICH OUR
10:06:28AM COMMUNITY COMMITTED TO THE CAC -- COMMUNICATED TO THE CAC
10:06:32AM ITS DESIRES, WANTS, NEEDS.
10:06:33AM SOMETIMES IT WAS THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR BUT WE GOT TO
10:06:37AM HEAR THEM ANYWAY AND THEN WE COULD TRY TO IMPLEMENT WAYS
10:06:40AM THAT WE COULD MAKE THOSE THINGS COME TO FRUITION.
10:06:42AM A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, DEALING WITH OUR
10:06:45AM YOUTH AND HOW THEY ARE IMPACTED BY THE COMMUNITY.
10:06:48AM DEVELOP PROGRAMS BASED ON THAT PRESSURE, THAT IMPETUS.
10:06:52AM ALSO, WE ALSO HAD -- I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT -- LET ME GO BACK
10:06:58AM TO THIS.
10:06:59AM THAT IS THE REHABILITATION PROGRAM OF OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB
10:07:13AM PROGRAM.
10:07:14AM WE PUSHED THAT AS HARD AS WE COULD THROUGH ADMINISTRATION TO
10:07:16AM GET A PROGRAM THAT WAS VIABLE AND ULTIMATELY WE HAD MR.
10:07:22AM SPEARMAN COME OVER WITH WHAT I'LL CALL A WORK-AROUND.
10:07:25AM THERE IS A WAY WE CAN RUN SOMETHING THROUGH PURCHASING THAT
10:07:28AM MAY BE ABLE TO BRING TO FRUITION REHABILITATION OF HOMES
10:07:33AM THAT ARE OWNER OCCUPIED.
10:07:34AM WE'RE HOPING THAT PROGRAM COMES ONLINE SOON, BUT THAT CAME
10:07:37AM FROM A COMMUNITY PUSH AT THE BOTTOM.
10:07:40AM FROM THE PARTNERSHIP HAVING PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE MEETING
10:07:42AM AND SHARE.
10:07:44AM SINCE WE CHANGED OUR STRUCTURE, WE HAVE ALMOST NO COMMUNITY
10:07:48AM INPUT.
10:07:48AM ALMOST NO -- WE MAY GET ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AT A MEETING.
10:07:53AM THE COMMITTEES ARE GONE.
10:07:54AM THE PARTNERSHIP IS NOW LAUNCHING OFF TO DO ITS OWN THING.
10:07:58AM AS IT HAD BEFORE THERE WAS A CRA.
10:08:01AM BUT WE LOST A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY INPUT AS TO NOT
10:08:06AM WHAT WE WANT, NOT WHAT YOU ALL MAY WANT, BUT WHAT THE
10:08:09AM COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR TO MAKE ITSELF FEEL BETTER AND TO
10:08:14AM MAKE THEIR EXPERIENCE AS CITIZENS BETTER.
10:08:16AM SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS GETTING THAT
10:08:18AM MESSAGE OUT.
10:08:19AM WE THE MEMBERS OF THE CAC ARE TRYING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT
10:08:23AM TO THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS.
10:08:25AM POOR CEDRIC, I KNOW HE IS BECAUSE I'M ON THE PHONE WITH HIM
10:08:28AM OFTEN, ON HIS WAY FROM A MEETING OR GOING TO A MEETING AND
10:08:31AM WE'RE GETTING THE SUPPORT WE CAN FROM STAFF.
10:08:33AM THE CHALLENGE REALLY IS I THINK OF MESSAGING THAT GOING
10:08:36AM FORWARD, GETTING A STRONGER, CLEARER MESSAGE TO THE
10:08:39AM COMMUNITY OF WHAT THE CHANGE IS.
10:08:41AM BECAUSE REMEMBER, FOR 20 YEARS, THEY GOT TO VOTE ON THAT
10:08:44AM LEADERSHIP.
10:08:44AM NOW THAT LEADERSHIP IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED BY YOU ALL.
10:08:47AM AND I THINK THERE IS A PRESSURE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL
10:08:50AM THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.
10:08:51AM I OFTENTIMES HEAR THIS AT EAST TAMPA CAC, NOTHING IS
10:08:57AM HAPPENING.
10:08:57AM YOU JUST HEARD ME TALK ABOUT A LOT THAT IS HAPPENING.
10:09:00AM A LOT OF STUFF IS HAPPENING.
10:09:03AM AND I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.
10:09:06AM HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT ALL DONE, SO THERE IS A REAL AND UPBEAT
10:09:11AM EXPECTATION FOR WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
10:09:12AM THE NEXT EAST TAMPA CAC MEETING IS JANUARY 9 OF 2024.
10:09:18AM WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'VE GOT SOME PROGRESS ON GETTING THE NEW
10:09:22AM MEMBERS ON BOARD.
10:09:24AM IN THE INTERIM, IF WE COULD GET SOME CLARITY ON THE LEGAL
10:09:27AM POSITION REGARDING THE QUORUM SITUATION, THAT WILL BE
10:09:30AM HELPFUL SO THAT -- WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES KIND OF IN A MIX
10:09:34AM ABOUT THIS.
10:09:34AM THAT IS A RUMBLING WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
10:09:37AM WHY AREN'T YOU ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS?
10:09:40AM I'M A LAWYER, BUT IN THIS CASE, I SERVE AS A MEMBER.
10:09:44AM DON'T TRUST WHAT I MIGHT SAY.
10:09:46AM I THINK WE DO NEED SOME CLARITY FROM OUR LEGAL
10:09:51AM REPRESENTATION SO THE COMMUNITY IS CLEAR ON THIS.
10:09:53AM THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN I WENT TO MY FIRST CAC MEETING,
10:10:01AM TECHNOLOGY CONSISTED I THINK OF A CELL PHONE ON A TABLE.
10:10:05AM I MEAN SOMEBODY PUT A CELL PHONE ON A TABLE SO THAT PEOPLE
10:10:11AM WHO WERE DIALING IN COULD HEAR AND WE WOULD YELL AND IT WAS
10:10:15AM KIND OF FUNKY.
10:10:16AM WE'VE GROWN.
10:10:17AM WE HAVE A FULL I.T. SETUP IN THERE.
10:10:19AM GUESS WHAT, LAST MEETING, IT CRASHED, AND PEOPLE COULDN'T
10:10:22AM LOG IN.
10:10:23AM SOME PEOPLE COULDN'T HEAR.
10:10:25AM THE MEETING STARTED LATE.
10:10:27AM IT DIDN'T LOOK PROFESSIONAL.
10:10:28AM IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR OPERATION, WHICH
10:10:32AM IS WHAT THE CAC, EAST TAMPA CAC IS.
10:10:35AM 10, 11, 12 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
10:10:40AM PROPOSED THAT WE MOVE OUR MEETING OVER TO THE HANNA AVENUE.
10:10:45AM I KNOW THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING.
10:10:47AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEIR TECHNOLOGY IS A LOT MORE SECURE.
10:10:52AM IT'S ONLY A BLOCK OUTSIDE OF OUR EAST TAMPA LOCATION.
10:10:55AM PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA KNOW HOW TO GET TO HANNA.
10:10:58AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
10:10:59AM AT OUR DECEMBER 5th MEETING, IT WAS PRESENTED THAT THAT
10:11:02AM POSSIBLY MAY BE HAPPENING.
10:11:04AM AGAIN, ADDING TO OUR ABILITY TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY INFORMED
10:11:07AM AND THOSE FACILITIES SHOULD BE MORE ACCOMMODATING.
10:11:10AM LET ME CLOSE BY SAYING THIS: ANYTIME CHANGES ARE GOING TO
10:11:19AM BE ASKED.
10:11:20AM NO PROGRESS WITHOUT STRUGGLE.
10:11:21AM NO PROGRESS WITHOUT SOME LURCHING BACK AND FORTH.
10:11:25AM BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK THIS CHANGE HAS TO BE COMMUNICATED
10:11:29AM MORE EFFECTIVELY AND BROADER TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:11:32AM WE NEED SOME PSAs.
10:11:35AM WE NEED TO RUN SOME ADVERTISING AND SOME PAPERS, SOME FOLKS
10:11:40AM OUT ON SOME RADIO SHOWS.
10:11:43AM LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW, IT'S CHANGED.
10:11:46AM WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR TWO DECADES, THAT HAS CHANGED NOW
10:11:49AM AND HERE'S HOW YOU CAN REMAIN ENGAGED AND PARTICIPATE.
10:11:52AM I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.
10:11:55AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HANUKKAH,
10:11:59AM HAPPY HOLIDAYS, KWANZAA.
10:12:00AM IF I MISSED ANY OTHER DAYS, BLAME IT ON MY HEAD AND NOT MY
10:12:04AM HEART.
10:12:04AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE
10:12:07AM INVITATION FROM STAFF TO BE THE PERSON TO COME UP AND
10:12:12AM FACILITATE THIS PRESENTATION.
10:12:12AM I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS.
10:12:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, MANISCALCO
10:12:16AM AND THEN CARLSON.
10:12:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A GREAT REPORT.
10:12:21AM >>CLINT PARIS: THANK YOU.
10:12:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU DISCUSSED NOT ONLY
10:12:25AM PULLED MY HEARTSTRINGS BUT ALSO HIT ON A LOT OF WHAT I
10:12:28AM BELIEVE SHOULD BE THE AGENDA OF NOT JUST THE EAST TAMPA CRA,
10:12:31AM BUT SO MANY OF THE CRAs.
10:12:32AM OWNER OCCUPIED ASSISTANCE, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU
10:12:38AM BROUGHT UP REALLY SHOULD BE THE FOCUS I THINK, THIS BOARD'S
10:12:44AM FOCUS AND THE ADMINISTRATION'S FOCUS.
10:12:45AM TOO OFTEN WE TRY TO DO TOO MUCH WITH TOO LITTLE.
10:12:49AM IF WE NARROWED OUR FOCUS -- I'LL HARKEN BACK TO MAYOR SANDY
10:12:53AM FREEDMAN MAYOR'S CHALLENGE FUND.
10:12:56AM I KEEP BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW AGAIN.
10:12:59AM I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT TYPE OF A PROGRAM,
10:13:02AM INSTITUTIONALIZE IT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT
10:13:04AM ASSISTANCE.
10:13:05AM ONE, ASSISTING THE PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN EAST TAMPA
10:13:08AM AND ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD BE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.
10:13:12AM IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF HELPS US WITH
10:13:15AM GENTRIFICATION.
10:13:16AM SO IT STOPS GENTRIFICATION, BUT YOU'RE HELPING THE PEOPLE
10:13:18AM THAT CURRENTLY LIVE THERE.
10:13:20AM IT KEEPS RENTS DOWN.
10:13:21AM SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS A HOUSE, ESPECIALLY OUR SENIOR CITIZENS,
10:13:24AM IF THEY NEED A ROOF ON THE HOME OR THE HOUSE PAINTED OR YARD
10:13:28AM CLEANED UP, THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS COULD REALLY GO A LONG
10:13:33AM WAY TO HELPING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:13:34AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA HAS
10:13:36AM BEEN FOCUSED ON THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND WHAT YOU BROUGHT
10:13:39AM UP AND HIGHLIGHTED I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO.
10:13:42AM THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT GOVERNMENT, IT'S A HAND
10:13:44AM UP.
10:13:45AM IT REALLY IS.
10:13:46AM GIVING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES,
10:13:50AM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE THEY LIVE.
10:13:54AM I MEAN, IT'S SO INVALUABLE TO THE CULTURAL FABRIC OF A
10:13:58AM COMMUNITY.
10:13:59AM I REALLY THINK THAT WE ALL NEED TO, AGAIN, WE TRY TO DO WAY
10:14:03AM TOO MUCH WITH TOO LITTLE.
10:14:04AM SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, WHILE THEY ARE ASPIRATIONAL THAT I
10:14:06AM KEEP HEARING ABOUT AND KEEP BEATING THAT DRUM AGAINST,
10:14:09AM SIPHON TOO MUCH MONEY AWAY FROM THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
10:14:12AM SO THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THOSE TODAY.
10:14:14AM IT'S VERY EXCITING.
10:14:16AM ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES
10:14:19AM THAT WE'RE SEEING, I FULLY SUPPORT THE CHANGES AND WHAT
10:14:23AM STAFF IS ATTEMPTING TO DO.
10:14:24AM I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LONG OVERDUE.
10:14:28AM I THINK A LOT OF THESE BOARDS CHANGES HEART.
10:14:32AM WE'RE IN THAT REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE PERIOD OF TIME, A
10:14:34AM TRANSITION PERIOD OF TIME, AND IT SEEMS REALLY ROUGH WHILE
10:14:38AM WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT, BUT IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE, THIS,
10:14:42AM TOO, SHALL PASS.
10:14:44AM IN A FEW MONTHS IT WILL BE IN OUR REARVIEW MIRROR AND
10:14:48AM HOPEFULLY IN A QUICK WAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO GEAR UP.
10:14:52AM HAVE A MUCH MORE VIBRANT BOARD AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:14:56AM AS WE LOOK TOWARDS THE OUTREACH, I'VE SPOKEN WITH DIRECTOR
10:15:00AM MOODY ABOUT APPOINTMENTS, ENSURING THAT WE CAST A -- SHE'S
10:15:04AM FULLY ON BOARD ABOUT RECRUITMENT AND CASTING A WIDE NET TO
10:15:07AM ENSURE THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT POSITIONS
10:15:10AM THAT HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE THAT ARE MEMBERS OF
10:15:13AM THE COMMUNITY, THAT ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY SO
10:15:18AM THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD AND THAT THEY CAN BE ACTIVATED AND
10:15:22AM REALLY BRING FORTH THE TYPE OF ENERGY THAT EAST TAMPA AND
10:15:26AM THE OTHER CRAs DESERVE.
10:15:28AM I WOULD SAY TO YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE
10:15:32AM ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE BECAUSE IT'S COMING.
10:15:35AM IT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION, AND I THINK WHAT
10:15:40AM WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BENEFIT NOT
10:15:43AM JUST THE EAST TAMPA, BUT ALL THE CRAs WITH ACCOUNTABILITY
10:15:48AM AND WE'LL SEE THAT AND HOPEFULLY AGAIN WITH THESE OTHER
10:15:51AM PROGRAMS.
10:15:51AM I WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN.
10:15:52AM I WANT TO TRIPLE DOWN ON KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSES,
10:15:56AM PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE, BEING ABLE TO REVITALIZE
10:16:02AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN
10:16:04AM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THE KIDS THAT ARE GROWING UP IN THAT
10:16:07AM NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT GENTRIFICATION, NOT BRINGING PEOPLE IN
10:16:12AM THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN IN SOME AREAS OF THE CITY.
10:16:14AM WE DON'T NEED TO ENCOURAGE IT.
10:16:16AM WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE HELPING THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT LIVE
10:16:20AM THERE.
10:16:20AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:16:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:16:22AM FIRST, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
10:16:24AM I'VE BEEN AWAKE SINCE 2:00 THIS MORNING GOING OVER THE
10:16:26AM AGENDA, GOING OVER THE NOTES THAT DIRECTOR MOODY SENT US,
10:16:30AM WHICH WE HAVE HERE, WHICH ARE VERY, VERY GOOD.
10:16:33AM GOING OVER EACH AND EVERY E-MAIL.
10:16:35AM I'VE HEARD STUFF -- I COULDN'T FIND IT.
10:16:37AM 25 MILLION TO THE AQUARIUM, PLEASE DON'T RAISE OUR TAXES.
10:16:40AM I COULDN'T FIND IT.
10:16:42AM WE'LL DISCUSS IT LATER.
10:16:43AM BUT GETTING TO THE POINT, I HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:16:47AM FIRST, I HEARD NOT FROM YOU, THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING IN
10:16:50AM EAST TAMPA.
10:16:50AM BUT THEN YOU GIVE A REPORT AND YOU WENT ONE AFTER ANOTHER
10:16:54AM AFTER ANOTHER OF ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
10:16:56AM BUT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
10:16:59AM NUMBER ONE, YOU HAD MENTIONED WE CAN'T GET A QUORUM AT SOME
10:17:02AM OF THESE MEETINGS.
10:17:04AM WHEN WE DON'T HAVE FOUR MEMBERS HERE, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM
10:17:07AM AND WE CAN'T START THE MEETING.
10:17:08AM THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHY ARE YOU NOT GETTING A
10:17:11AM QUORUM?
10:17:11AM YOU ANSWERED IT BY SAYING CEDRIC AND OTHER TEAM LEADERS,
10:17:16AM COMMUNITY PEOPLE CAN'T GET FOLKS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND,
10:17:20AM CAN'T GET FOLKS TO SIGN UP AND APPLY, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:17:24AM >>CLINT PARIS: CORRECT.
10:17:25AM HISTORICAL.
10:17:26AM SO HISTORICALLY FOR THE HISTORY OF EAST TAMPA CRA, THE EAST
10:17:30AM TAMPA PARTNERSHIP HELD ELECTIONS.
10:17:33AM THE MEMBERS ELECTED BY THEM TO THEIR BOARD SERVED AS MEMBERS
10:17:38AM OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC.
10:17:40AM THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT.
10:17:42AM UNDER THE REORGANIZATION, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
10:17:45AM PARTNERSHIP WAS SEVERED, LEADING, WELL, HOW DO YOU FILL THE
10:17:49AM SITES THAT COME OPEN ON THE CAC?
10:17:51AM WELL, 8 SEATS ROLLED OFF, I THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER.
10:17:55AM WELL, SINCE SEPTEMBER, THE PROCESS OF GETTING APPLICANTS
10:18:00AM THROUGH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, APPROVED BY YOU ALL AND
10:18:03AM SEATED HAS NOT HAPPENED.
10:18:06AM THE FIRST PART IS TRYING TO RECRUIT OUT OF THE HOMEOWNER
10:18:09AM ASSOCIATIONS WHO HISTORICALLY WERE USED TO THE ELECTION
10:18:13AM TAKING.
10:18:14AM THE FIRST THING WAS AN EDUCATION PROCESS FOR THEM TO EXPLAIN
10:18:17AM YOU ALL NOW SHOULD GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPLICANTS
10:18:21AM THAT WE CAN SEND UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
10:18:24AM THAT'S WHY.
10:18:25AM SO WE THOUGHT BECAUSE WE STILL HAD SEVEN SITTING CAC
10:18:30AM MEMBERS, WELL, WE JUST NEED A MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO ARE
10:18:33AM SEATED.
10:18:34AM WE WERE INSTRUCTED THAT, NO, YOU MUST HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE
10:18:39AM 15, WHICH MEANS WE'RE AT 7 NOW.
10:18:41AM WE WOULD NEED ONE MORE PERSON TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE 15.
10:18:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT
10:18:47AM RECRUITING.
10:18:49AM A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:18:52AM A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE.
10:18:53AM A LOT OF PEOPLE WRITE E-MAILS.
10:18:55AM A LOT OF PEOPLE CARE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT QUALIFIED
10:18:57AM INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CRA WITHIN EAST TAMPA THAT
10:19:00AM WE CAN FILL THOSE POSITIONS BECAUSE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
10:19:05AM I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, WE'RE HERE FOR A VERY SHORT
10:19:08AM PERIOD OF TIME.
10:19:09AM EVERY FOUR YEARS, WE MAY GET REELECTED, WE MAY NOT GET
10:19:12AM REELECTED.
10:19:13AM THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO.
10:19:15AM THE POINT I'M GETTING IS SO MUCH IS HAPPENING IN THE REST OF
10:19:18AM TAMPA.
10:19:18AM EVERYBODY SAYS LOOK AT DOWNTOWN.
10:19:19AM IT'S FLOURISHING, THE RIVERWALK.
10:19:22AM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
10:19:23AM THIS IS THE TIME TO STRIKE.
10:19:25AM YOU STRIKE WHEN THE IRON IS HOT.
10:19:28AM THE IRON IS HOT.
10:19:29AM TALKED ABOUT SO MANY PEOPLE MOVING HERE, COST OF LIVING,
10:19:32AM HOUSING, INFLATION, WE'RE A VICTIM OF OUR OWN SUCCESS.
10:19:35AM WE WEREN'T HAVING THE CONVERSATION 10, 15 YEARS AGO WITH THE
10:19:37AM RECESSION.
10:19:38AM PEOPLE WERE LEAVING.
10:19:39AM I GRADUATED COLLEGE AND EVERYBODY LEFT EXCEPT ONE OR TWO
10:19:41AM PEOPLE.
10:19:42AM NOW WE'RE BOOMING, BUT WE'RE NOT BOOMING EQUALLY ACROSS THE
10:19:46AM CITY.
10:19:46AM I KNOW THIS IS A BROADER DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING LATER
10:19:51AM TALKING ABOUT CAPPING THE CRA, REDIRECTING THE FUNDS,
10:19:54AM LOOKING AT THE FUTURE AND WHAT NOT.
10:19:56AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY.
10:19:57AM EQUITY MEANS THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:19:59AM EAST TAMPA BEING THE LARGEST CRA WITH THE MOST OPPORTUNITY,
10:20:03AM IF I WERE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, I WOULDN'T LOOK AT SOUTH TAMPA
10:20:07AM AND DOWNTOWN.
10:20:09AM THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN A LOT OF PARTS OF THE CITY.
10:20:11AM I WOULD SAY THE OPPORTUNITY IS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:20:13AM THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY, THE BUILDING OPPORTUNITY,
10:20:17AM STRENGTHENING THE MIDDLE CLASS.
10:20:18AM WE TALKED ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP AND GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
10:20:21AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
10:20:23AM HELPING PEOPLE WITH THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND EXPANDING
10:20:25AM THOSE, GO EGG THAT NEW ROOF.
10:20:26AM PAINTING THAT HOUSE, WHERE SOMEONE THAT'S OLDER, THAT'S
10:20:30AM LIVED IN THAT HOUSE FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS SAY I'LL PASS IT
10:20:33AM DOWN TO MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.
10:20:35AM GENERATIONAL WEALTH SO WE KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, KEEP
10:20:38AM BUILDING THE COMMUNITIES, CREATING MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITIES.
10:20:40AM YOU SAID A LOT OF GOOD STUFF.
10:20:44AM A LOT OF GOOD IS HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA.
10:20:47AM YOU MENTIONED THE CLUB THAT IS NOW A WELLNESS CLINIC.
10:20:50AM I BELIEVE WE WERE BOTH AT THE RIBBON CUTTING THERE.
10:20:53AM THAT'S ONE OF MANY GREAT PROJECTS.
10:20:56AM WE CAN EXPAND ON THAT A HUNDRED, A THOUSAND TIMES.
10:21:02AM EAST TAMPA IS VERY BIG.
10:21:03AM THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE NEED TO BE PURSUING.
10:21:06AM PERHAPS WE NEED TO REESTABLISH OR BUILD THE BRIDGE WITH THE
10:21:11AM EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP AGAIN.
10:21:12AM I KNOW WE'RE GOING A DIFFERENT ROUTE AND HOW BOARD MEMBERS
10:21:15AM ARE APPOINTED, THIS AND THAT.
10:21:18AM RUMORS AND MISINFORMATION TRAVEL VERY QUICKLY.
10:21:21AM YOU PUT SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND MISINFORMATION GETS
10:21:24AM OUT THERE VERY QUICKLY.
10:21:25AM BUT WHY CAN'T WE GET THE GOOD NEWS OUT THERE LIKE SAYING,
10:21:29AM HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS.
10:21:33AM THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
10:21:34AM WE NEED YOUR HELP.
10:21:35AM AGAIN, THERE ARE VERY MANY SMART, INTELLIGENT, CAPABLE
10:21:40AM PEOPLE THAT WILL DRIVE THESE CACs FORWARD AND THESE BOARDS
10:21:43AM FORWARD TO HELP US MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, LIFT UP THE
10:21:47AM COMMUNITY, WHATEVER WE CAN DO.
10:21:48AM YOU HAD MENTIONED FAILURES IN THE TECHNOLOGY.
10:21:52AM IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE DECEMBER MEETING ABOUT MOVING THOSE
10:21:55AM MEETINGS TO HANNA.
10:21:58AM I'VE TOURED HANNA SO MANY TIMES.
10:22:00AM I WAS THERE THE OTHER NIGHT.
10:22:01AM THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE.
10:22:03AM IT'S A MAJOR INVESTMENT.
10:22:04AM WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS.
10:22:06AM BUT TO HAVE THE MEETINGS THERE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, T & I
10:22:12AM CAN SET EVERYTHING UP SO WE DON'T HAVE THE DISRUPTIONS.
10:22:14AM EAST TAMPA, EVERY CAC, EVERY CRA SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY.
10:22:20AM SHOULDN'T HAVE HICCUPS, WELL, PEOPLE COULDN'T LOG IN.
10:22:24AM NOW WE HAVE A PLACE, SHOULD THE MEETINGS MOVE THERE, WE'VE
10:22:27AM ESTABLISHED THAT.
10:22:28AM AGAIN, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO INVEST IN THE QUALITY OF
10:22:34AM THESE CRAs, THESE CACs.
10:22:36AM THERE'S NO EXCUSE.
10:22:38AM EACH CRA IS DIFFERENT, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO AND SO MUCH
10:22:43AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:22:44AM WE WANT TO HELP YOU -- I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE OTHER
10:22:47AM COUNCIL MEMBERS -- WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MOVE THINGS
10:22:50AM FORWARD.
10:22:50AM I SEE WHAT'S PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
10:22:52AM I SEE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS.
10:22:53AM I HEAR PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.
10:22:55AM AGAIN, A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS, AND THE RISING TIDE IN
10:23:00AM THE CITY IS -- THAT TIDE ISN'T GOING INTO EAST TAMPA AS IT
10:23:05AM SHOULD AND WE NEED TO BE DOING A BETTER JOB.
10:23:07AM I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE WE AS A COLLECTIVE BODY AND TO
10:23:10AM MAKE A BIGGER EFFORT IN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THINGS
10:23:13AM HAPPEN.
10:23:13AM THANK YOU.
10:23:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:23:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID.
10:23:20AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:20AM EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
10:23:21AM A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION AND ENTHUSIASM AND LEADERSHIP,
10:23:23AM WHICH WE NEED.
10:23:24AM THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING HOME OWNERSHIP.
10:23:29AM IT'S SOMETHING I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT IS INCREDIBLY
10:23:32AM IMPORTANT.
10:23:33AM IF YOU FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON THAT, PLEASE LET US
10:23:36AM KNOW SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT IT.
10:23:38AM JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID AND THEN A
10:23:42AM COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
10:23:43AM THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP AND THE YCDC NOW HAVE NO ASSETS.
10:23:51AM YCDC HAS A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
10:23:53AM I DON'T THINK THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP HAS ANYTHING.
10:23:55AM AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REORGANIZE
10:23:58AM AND SEE IF THEY EVEN HAVE AN ORGANIZATION.
10:24:00AM I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AROUND THE EAST TAMPA
10:24:03AM PARTNERSHIP, AND IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S
10:24:06AM SOMETHING NEW TO DO.
10:24:07AM THERE IS A HISTORY THERE.
10:24:08AM NOW THAT IT'S SEPARATE, THERE'S NO ACCESS TO ALL THE
10:24:11AM RESOURCES.
10:24:11AM FOLKS WILL HAVE TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT IT.
10:24:15AM YCDC IS ORGANIZING AND MEETING TO FIGURE OUT, CAN THEY
10:24:19AM CHANGE THEIR BYLAWS?
10:24:19AM WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO GOING FORWARD?
10:24:21AM IS THERE ANY CHANCE TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING, ET CETERA?
10:24:25AM EITHER ONE IS A LONG ROAD.
10:24:26AM THEY ARE START-UPS NOW.
10:24:28AM THEY ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
10:24:30AM THEY HELP CREATE THE CRAs.
10:24:32AM BECAUSE THEY BECAME CACs, NOW THEY HAVE TO RESTART
10:24:36AM COMPLETELY.
10:24:37AM AND THAT IS CAUSING A LOT OF CONFUSION OUT THERE, AS YOU
10:24:39AM SAID.
10:24:40AM MY TWO QUESTIONS, NUMBER ONE IS, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
10:24:43AM PERCEPTION ISSUE, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT COMMUNICATING A
10:24:47AM LITTLE BIT BETTER.
10:24:48AM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO TO SOLVE THE
10:24:52AM PERCEPTION ISSUE, COMMUNICATION, OR ACTUALLY GETTING THINGS
10:24:57AM DONE?
10:24:57AM THE SECOND QUESTION, SO YOU CAN ANSWER BOTH OF THEM, IS IN
10:25:01AM REGARD TO THE BOARD AND ALL THIS CONFUSION, IS THERE
10:25:04AM SOMETHING THAT YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IN THE SHORT RUN OR
10:25:08AM LONG TERM TO FIX THE BOARD SITUATION?
10:25:10AM >>CLINT PARIS: WELL, LET'S ADDRESS THE ONE.
10:25:13AM THE QUORUM SITUATION.
10:25:15AM THAT'S THE DIFFICULT.
10:25:15AM I THINK THE NET WAS CAST TOO NARROW LOOKING ONLY WITHIN
10:25:22AM COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:25:26AM SO THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD FILL THE SPOTS, THEY ARE LOOKING TO
10:25:30AM BE RECOMMENDED FROM HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS AND WHAT THE
10:25:33AM REALITY IS, A LOT OF HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS EXIST ON PAPER,
10:25:37AM BUT THEY ARE NOT MEETING REGULAR.
10:25:39AM THEY REALLY HAVE VERY LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE ACTIVITY.
10:25:42AM SOME DO, BUT SOME OF THEM DON'T, AND THERE WAS KIND OF A
10:25:46AM LOTTERY USED TO PICK WHICH ONES BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY IN
10:25:51AM NAME.
10:25:52AM THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER IN NAME.
10:25:54AM I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE DYNAMICS THAT I THINK HAS LIMITED
10:25:59AM PROBABLY I WOULD ADD PROBABLY ONE OF THE BOARD SEATS, GIVE
10:26:02AM THAT BACK TO THE PARTNERSHIP SO THEY GET AT LEAST A SEAT ON
10:26:06AM THE BOARD WOULD BE ONE IDEA.
10:26:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, WHAT ABOUT THERE ARE
10:26:10AM PEOPLE ON THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD LIKE TO STILL BE ON THE
10:26:13AM CAC BOARD.
10:26:14AM IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO BRING SOME OF THEM
10:26:16AM BACK TEMPORARILY?
10:26:19AM >>CLINT PARIS: YOU ALL CAN DO IT.
10:26:20AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:26:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M ASKING YOUR ADVICE.
10:26:24AM >>CLINT PARIS: ABSOLUTELY.
10:26:25AM THE PARTNERSHIP IS REALLY THE WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE -- I MEAN,
10:26:29AM THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMUNITY HAS FED INFORMATION AND ACTIVITY
10:26:32AM FOR DECADES.
10:26:33AM NOT JUST DURING THE CAC RELATION WITH THE CRA.
10:26:36AM SO ABSOLUTELY.
10:26:37AM THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE YOU STILL HAVE WHAT COMMUNITY
10:26:41AM ASSOCIATIONS YOU ARE ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS, THEY ARE
10:26:44AM CONNECTED THERE WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
10:26:45AM SO THAT WOULD BE ONE VEHICLE LOOKING FORWARD AND MAYBE AS
10:26:49AM YOU LOOK TO SEE HOW YOU DO THIS GOING FORWARD, THAT MAY BE
10:26:52AM THE PLACE THAT YOU ALSO PULL SOME VIABLE LEADERSHIP THAT
10:26:57AM COULD PARTICIPATE.
10:26:59AM I JUST THINK IN THIS, WITH ALMOST ANY MAJOR CHANGE LIKE
10:27:02AM THIS, THE MESSAGING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
10:27:06AM AND THE CHANGE HAPPENED AND THERE WAS NO REAL STRATEGY.
10:27:09AM BEYOND CEDRIC WILL TELL THE PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE
10:27:13AM WAS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
10:27:14AM NO MEDIA CAMPAIGN, NO SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN.
10:27:17AM SUFFICIENT FOR THE EAST TAMPA.
10:27:20AM THAT COMMUNITY HAS GOT ITS OWN MESSAGING STRUCTURES.
10:27:24AM SO ON PATROL AND SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT REALLY
10:27:29AM CONNECT IN THAT COMMUNITY, PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE WORKUP.
10:27:34AM I THINK THE VOTE WAS MAYBE AUGUST.
10:27:35AM IT HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER.
10:27:39AM IT WAS THEN THAT WE REALIZED, WAIT, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE
10:27:41AM FEEDBACK FROM THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT WERE SELECTED THAT WE
10:27:44AM THOUGHT WOULD COME FORWARD WHEN THAT CHANGE WAS MADE.
10:27:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE PERCEPTION ISSUE, IS THERE ANYTHING
10:27:50AM ELSE THAT YOU RECOMMEND IN SUBSTANCE OR TO CHANGE THE
10:27:53AM PERCEPTION?
10:27:55AM >>CLINT PARIS: WE PREVIOUSLY HAD VOTED ON BRINGING ON
10:27:58AM SOMEONE TO ASSIST WITH MARKETING FOR THE EAST TAMPA CAC AND
10:28:02AM THE CRA TO TELL OUR STORY.
10:28:05AM AND THAT NEVER REALLY GOT TRACTION OR CREATED.
10:28:10AM BUT THERE IS A MESSAGING ISSUE OF PUTTING OUT THE MESSAGE
10:28:14AM BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE MAY BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THROUGH
10:28:17AM THE CRA.
10:28:18AM IT'S FIVE YEARS LATER THAT SOMETHING GETS BUILT ON THAT
10:28:22AM PROPERTY.
10:28:22AM CONNECTING THAT BACK TO THAT WAS A DECISION BY THE CRA FIVE
10:28:26AM YEARS AGO, LEADERSHIP CHANGED AND PEOPLE HAVE COME ON.
10:28:30AM SO YOU GOT TO REALLY WORK TO AMPLIFY THAT MESSAGING.
10:28:35AM RIBBON CUTTINGS ARE GREAT, BUT IF THE MEDIA IS NOT THERE AND
10:28:39AM THE STORY IS NOT TOLD AND SENT OUT, MOST PEOPLE KNOW REALLY
10:28:42AM VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT.
10:28:43AM THEY KNOW SOMETHING IS UP AND RUNNING AND THEY DON'T REALLY
10:28:46AM CONNECT IT WITH THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:28:48AM THEY CAN SEE IN EAST TAMPA THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
10:28:50AM AND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY SEE
10:28:53AM HAPPENING ARE UNRELATED TO WHAT THE CRA IS DOING.
10:28:56AM SOMETIMES I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE.
10:28:59AM YOU HAVE FUN LAND BEING DEVELOPED BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER.
10:29:02AM WE REALLY HAVE NO SAY IN THAT AS CRA, CAC OR CRA.
10:29:06AM BUT THE MESSAGING IS ONE OF SOMETHING IS BEING DONE IN THE
10:29:09AM COMMUNITY AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THE SAY-SO IN WHAT'S
10:29:12AM HAPPENING THERE.
10:29:13AM THAT'S REALLY NOT WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY.
10:29:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA, HURTAK, AND THEN
10:29:20AM VIERA.
10:29:22AM >>CLINT PARIS: ARE WE GOING BACK AROUND?
10:29:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
10:29:25AM FIRST TIME SPEAKING.
10:29:26AM >>CLINT PARIS: LET'S GO BOARD MEMBERS.
10:29:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU LOOK AT THE CRA, HOW WAS IT YESTERDAY
10:29:36AM WHERE YOU'RE AT, HOW IT WILL BE TOMORROW AND HOW IT WILL BE
10:29:39AM IN THE FUTURE.
10:29:40AM FROM EVERYTHING I HEARD FROM ALL THE COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HERE
10:29:43AM ON THE BOARD AND FROM ALL IN THE AUDIENCE, ONE THING THAT'S
10:29:47AM HOLDING IT UP.
10:29:48AM ONE PERSON FOR ATTENDANCE TO 15.
10:29:53AM IF YOU DON'T GET TO THAT HURDLE, YOU CAN FORGET ALL THE
10:29:56AM CONVERSATION.
10:29:56AM IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.
10:29:58AM LET'S ADDRESS THE FIRST ONE FIRST AND MAYBE THE LAST ONE
10:30:01AM BECAUSE THAT SHOULD SOLVE MOST OF THE PROBLEM.
10:30:03AM IT'S UP TO YOURSELF.
10:30:06AM IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO UNDERSTAND, THE PEOPLE THERE
10:30:09AM UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WHOLE CITY, TO FIND OUT
10:30:11AM WHO WANTS TO SERVE ON YOUR BOARD.
10:30:13AM IT'S NOT UP TO ME TO GO OUT AND FIND SOMEONE.
10:30:17AM I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A CRA MEETING AND I NEVER WILL GO TO
10:30:20AM ONE.
10:30:21AM I DID GO TO THE OPENING ONE AT DREW PARK MANY YEARS AGO AND
10:30:26AM THAT WAS IT.
10:30:27AM THE REASON I WON'T GO, I SIT HERE ON ANOTHER BOARD THAT WILL
10:30:31AM LISTEN TO SOMETHING THAT I MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN SPEAK OF, BUT
10:30:34AM SOMEBODY GOING TO SAY, WELL, HE WAS HERE AND THAT'S WHAT HE
10:30:37AM WANTED.
10:30:37AM STAY AWAY FROM ALL THAT.
10:30:39AM IT WAS SET UP SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS CREATED, THIS IS
10:30:43AM WHAT WE NEED AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, THEN IT
10:30:46AM COMES TO THIS BOARD FOR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.
10:30:48AM I THINK YOU SAID IT ALL.
10:30:51AM I THINK YOU SAID EVERYTHING YOU NEED.
10:30:52AM ONLY ONE THING STANDING IN YOUR WAY.
10:30:55AM BEING A DRAGON I KNOW YOU HAVE THE HEART TO GO OUT THERE AND
10:30:59AM FIND YOURSELF EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE.
10:31:03AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ATTENDANCE IS ON CRA BOARDS, HOW YOU
10:31:05AM CAN STAY ON.
10:31:06AM MAYBE I SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN
10:31:09AM BE DONE?
10:31:10AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: UNFORTUNATELY, UNDER ROBERT'S RULES AND THE
10:31:13AM WAY OUR CAC POLICY WAS REWRITTEN AS YOU ALL ADOPTED IN
10:31:17AM SEPTEMBER, THERE ARE 15 MEMBERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
10:31:19AM SERVING ON THE EAST TAMPA CAC, SO THEY NEED EIGHT TO HAVE A
10:31:23AM QUORUM.
10:31:24AM THEY ONLY HAVE I GUESS SEVEN MEMBERS NOW.
10:31:26AM ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE SUGGESTED TO STAFF, ALSO UNDER YOUR
10:31:30AM REVISED CAC RULES, IF A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP THAT HAS AN EX
10:31:35AM OFFICIO SEAT ON A CAC DOES NOT APPOINT SOMEONE TO THAT SEAT,
10:31:40AM THEN IT CAN BECOME AN AT-LARGE SEAT.
10:31:43AM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AT-LARGE APPLICANTS FOR
10:31:46AM EAST TAMPA.
10:31:47AM SO MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL COULD CONSIDER TODAY
10:31:50AM DOING BY MOTION IS BASICALLY HAVING A DEADLINE OF MAYBE THIS
10:31:55AM MONTH FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT HAVE AN EX OFFICIO
10:31:59AM SEAT NOW ON THE EAST TAMPA CAC TO NOMINATE SOMEONE TO BRING
10:32:03AM FORWARD.
10:32:03AM IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE GO TO THE AT-LARGE CANDIDATES SO THAT
10:32:07AM THEY CAN HAVE A QUORUM AND START TAKING ACTION.
10:32:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL LET THE CHAIR DIRECT THAT TO US WHEN
10:32:12AM WE FINISH HERE.
10:32:13AM BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN DO THAT.
10:32:15AM AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A LONG TIME.
10:32:18AM I THINK NOW IT'S OUT.
10:32:19AM NEED LOOKING FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WANTING TO SERVE.
10:32:23AM AND YOU HAVE TO WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN ORDER TO DO IT.
10:32:26AM I DON'T CARE HOW SMART YOU ARE.
10:32:28AM IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, NO SENSE BEING THERE.
10:32:31AM BUT I NEED INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT SOMETHING DONE AND YOU'RE
10:32:35AM ONE OF THEM.
10:32:36AM I'M LIKE YOU, THERE ARE MANY OTHERS AND EAST TAMPA HAS DONE
10:32:40AM A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER AND MANY MORE
10:32:42AM THAT YOU FORGOT.
10:32:43AM BUT JUST ALONG WITH THE -- WHAT'S COMING SATURDAY.
10:32:50AM A TERRIFIC RAINSTORM IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
10:32:55AM WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
10:32:56AM YOU'RE RIGHT.
10:32:57AM WHEN YOU HAVE HOME OWNERSHIP, YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:33:00AM WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT ARE DONE, YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:33:03AM WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, YOU HAVE A
10:33:07AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:33:07AM WITHOUT THE DESIRE TO DO MUCH, IT HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY WANT
10:33:12AM TO GET BETTER.
10:33:13AM THEY WANT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THRIVE, TO HAVE THINGS.
10:33:16AM AND WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
10:33:21AM DOING THIS.
10:33:22AM I CAN TELL A DRAGON NEVER QUITS.
10:33:24AM BUT I CAN SEE THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU
10:33:29AM STICK TOGETHER.
10:33:30AM THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY, MADAM CHAIR.
10:33:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER, HURTAK.
10:33:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:33:34AM THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION TO MR. MASSEY IS WHAT WE
10:33:36AM CAN DO.
10:33:39AM IF MR. MIRANDA DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT, I WILL PUT FORWARD A
10:33:42AM MOTION FOR A DEADLINE OF THE 29th OF DECEMBER FOR
10:33:48AM APPLICATIONS.
10:33:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND THAT IF WE CAN DO IT NOW.
10:33:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO GET THROUGH A FEW THINGS FIRST, BUT
10:33:54AM I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ASSIST FURTHER ALONG WITH THAT, I
10:34:00AM ALSO KNOW, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:34:02AM IT WAS INCREDIBLY THOROUGH.
10:34:03AM I THINK WHAT I LIKED THE MOST ABOUT IT IS IT REALLY
10:34:06AM HIGHLIGHTS WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:34:07AM LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT A
10:34:10AM LOT IS GOING ON, BUT YOU ARE DOING A LOT.
10:34:12AM THE PROBLEM IS EAST TAMPA IS SO LARGE AND IT IS THE LARGEST
10:34:16AM CRA IN THE ENTIRE STATE AND HOW DO WE GET INFORMATION TO ALL
10:34:21AM OF THOSE FOLKS IN EVERY CORNER OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:34:25AM THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF OUR ISSUE.
10:34:28AM I WILL SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY WE DID NOT PREPARE WELL ENOUGH FOR
10:34:32AM THIS TRANSITION.
10:34:33AM I WILL OFFER AN APOLOGY TO YOU FROM ME TO NOT HAVE THOUGHT
10:34:38AM ABOUT SOME OF THESE TRANSITIONAL ISSUES.
10:34:42AM BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MOVE THINGS ALONG?
10:34:45AM WHAT I'M SURPRISED BY IS I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE SOME
10:34:48AM APPOINTMENTS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, EVEN JUST ONE, TO GET
10:34:53AM THROUGH.
10:34:53AM I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT ON OUR
10:35:01AM AGENDA, AT LEAST ONE, FOR JANUARY.
10:35:03AM I'M SURE MS. MOODY WILL TALK ABOUT IT A BIT IN HER
10:35:06AM DIRECTOR'S REPORT ON HOW WE CAN AT LEAST GET ONE BY OUR
10:35:10AM JANUARY MEETING TO ALLOW YOU TO AT LEAST MOVE SOME THINGS
10:35:14AM ALONG.
10:35:14AM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP DOES HAVE
10:35:18AM AT LEAST ONE SEAT ON THE BOARD, CORRECT?
10:35:20AM OKAY.
10:35:21AM JUST MAKING SURE.
10:35:22AM SO MY OTHER SUGGESTION TO YOU, IS AS THE EAST TAMPA
10:35:27AM PARTNERSHIP TRIES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT IS MAYBE TO
10:35:30AM REACH OUT TO THE YCDC AND FOR THE TWO GROUPS, I DON'T KNOW
10:35:36AM IF YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP, BUT FOR
10:35:38AM THE TWO GROUPS TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND HELP EACH OTHER
10:35:41AM FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO NEXT.
10:35:43AM I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WAS NOT
10:35:48AM SHARING, MAYBE SHARING SOME OF THE E-MAILS OR THE
10:35:55AM INFORMATION THAT THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP LOST IN THAT
10:35:59AM TRANSITION.
10:36:00AM AND I THINK THE YCDC IS IN THAT SAME POSITION.
10:36:04AM SO MAYBE THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS CAN WORK TOGETHER TO SEE
10:36:09AM WHAT THEY CAN DO NEXT INDIVIDUALLY IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY
10:36:12AM SINCE THEY ARE BOTH IN THAT POSITION.
10:36:13AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK
10:36:16AM THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
10:36:19AM ALSO MAYBE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IF
10:36:24AM ANY OF THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP PEOPLE FROM THE PAST WOULD
10:36:29AM BE WILLING TO REPRESENT THEIR COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION TO
10:36:34AM CONTINUE THAT KNOWLEDGE TRANSFER.
10:36:39AM IF NOT, I KNOW WE HAVE THIS YEAR ONLY JUST A FEW
10:36:45AM NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEXT YEAR IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALL OF THE
10:36:47AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:36:48AM SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE'RE DOING THAT, IF WE'RE JUST
10:36:51AM DOING AN OPEN APPOINTMENT FOR THIS YEAR.
10:36:55AM IF A NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE AN APPOINTEE, IF THEY ARE
10:36:57AM GOING TO THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE LIST, NOT QUITE SURE
10:37:00AM HOW THAT'S DONE, BUT I THINK MS. MOODY WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
10:37:03AM ABSOLUTELY.
10:37:03AM JUST FIGURING OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THAT STARTED.
10:37:06AM I DO WANT TO SAY I LOVE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, FOCUSING
10:37:10AM ON HOUSING, BUT THAT'S ONLY A PART OF THE PUZZLE.
10:37:15AM AND GROWING BUSINESS IN EAST TAMPA IS CRITICAL.
10:37:22AM THE WELLNESS CENTER, THAT PROJECT IS WONDERFUL.
10:37:25AM HOW DO WE GROW UPON THAT.
10:37:26AM I KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INCLUDE A
10:37:29AM GROCER IN EAST TAMPA AND/OR WAYS THAT WE CAN JUST PROVIDE
10:37:33AM FRESH FOOD TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW DO WE DO THAT WITHIN OUR
10:37:37AM ROLE AS CRA.
10:37:39AM WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO.
10:37:40AM I DID A TOUR RECENTLY WHERE WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT BODEGAS
10:37:44AM IN THE AREA AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO GROW UPON THAT.
10:37:47AM BUT I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT I KNOW
10:37:52AM THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO BE DONE BECAUSE I LISTEN TO YOUR
10:37:54AM MEETINGS, AND I KNOW HOW FRUSTRATED YOU ARE AND HOW FAR YOU
10:37:58AM WANT TO GO.
10:37:59AM MY GOAL IS TO GET YOU AT LEAST ONE MORE PERSON APPROVED IN
10:38:03AM OUR JANUARY MEETING SO YOU CAN START TO RUN BUSINESS.
10:38:06AM I THINK THAT'S A PROMISE THAT I CAN MAKE AND I THINK MY
10:38:09AM FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL JOIN ME IN THAT.
10:38:12AM ON THAT, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- AND MR. MASSEY OR
10:38:21AM MS. MOODY CAN HELP ME OUT HERE WITH THE CORRECT VERBIAGE TO
10:38:25AM PUT A DEADLINE FOR THE EAST TAMPA CAC APPLICATIONS FOR
10:38:30AM DECEMBER 29th, 2023.
10:38:33AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE APPLICATIONS FROM
10:38:37AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT HAVE EX OFFICIO SEATS, THEN YOU
10:38:41AM WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSIDERING AT-LARGE MEMBERS FOR THAT
10:38:45AM YEAR.
10:38:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT, YES.
10:38:46AM I WILL USE THAT LANGUAGE.
10:38:47AM SO THAT'S MY MOTION.
10:38:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, THANK YOU.
10:38:52AM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:38:55AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:38:56AM IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
10:38:58AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:39:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: MORRIS, WHAT IF WE -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF
10:39:05AM YOU GUYS ARE MEETING.
10:39:06AM ARE YOU GUYS MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND OUR JANUARY MEETING?
10:39:09AM >> YES.
10:39:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IF WE ADDED, IF WE VOTED TODAY TO ADD
10:39:16AM ANOTHER SEAT BY THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD
10:39:20AM EXPIRE, THAT WOULD START IMMEDIATELY AND THEN EXPIRE WHEN
10:39:23AM ALL THE OTHER BOARD SEATS ARE FILLED?
10:39:25AM CAN WE DO THAT?
10:39:27AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY AMENDING YOUR CAC
10:39:29AM POLICY.
10:39:30AM OBVIOUSLY THAT'S YOUR POLICY AND YOU CAN DO THAT.
10:39:32AM IT'S HARD TO EFFECTUATE THESE THINGS THAT QUICKLY, I'LL BE
10:39:37AM HONEST WITH YOU.
10:39:38AM THAT'S A PART OF THE PROBLEM.
10:39:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST WITH THE URGENCY IN THE COMMUNITY --
10:39:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: UNDERSTOOD.
10:39:43AM AND I'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, AND WE NEED TO
10:39:47AM BRING PEOPLE FORWARD SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
10:39:50AM ERICA, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT ALL TO THIS?
10:39:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
10:39:54AM >>ERICA MOODY: ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD.
10:39:58AM WE'RE IN A TRANSITION YEAR WITH THE CAC.
10:40:01AM SO ALL OF THE PARTNERSHIP SEATS THAT WERE STILL IN TERM
10:40:05AM REMAINED IN TERM AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS TRANSITION YEAR
10:40:08AM TO HAVE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS BUT NOT ALL OF
10:40:10AM THEM.
10:40:11AM AND TO BOARD MEMBER HURTAK'S QUESTION AROUND THE
10:40:13AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ANNUALLY OR WHEN THE TERM BECOMES
10:40:17AM AVAILABLE, THE ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LIST WILL BE
10:40:20AM PULLED.
10:40:20AM SOME GO INACTIVE AND RESTRUCTURE, BUT AT THAT MOMENT IN
10:40:24AM TIME, WHATEVER ONES ARE ACTIVE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE
10:40:26AM ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE CAC.
10:40:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
10:40:30AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:40:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, THANK YOU.
10:40:34AM MY QUESTION IS -- AND I APPRECIATE THE MOTION.
10:40:38AM I SUPPORT THE IDEA HERE, BUT MY IDEA ON THIS IS IT'S BETTER
10:40:43AM TO BE RIGHT, GET IT RIGHT THAN TO TRY TO PUSH THINGS THROUGH
10:40:47AM QUICKLY.
10:40:47AM IS THERE A NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE TO GIVING MORE TIME?
10:40:53AM BECAUSE IT IS THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
10:40:54AM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF HANUKKAH, CHRISTMAS COMING UP AND
10:40:57AM THEN NEW YEAR'S.
10:40:58AM CAN WE EXTEND THIS SO THAT WE CAN CAST A WIDER NET TO
10:41:02AM RECRUIT QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME?
10:41:07AM I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG ISSUE.
10:41:09AM ALL THESE CRAs ARE REAL.
10:41:11AM BIG ISSUES.
10:41:12AM TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AGENDAS THAT THE CITY.
10:41:17AM REALLY EXTENDING THIS A FEW MORE WEEKS, IS THAT A PROBLEM?
10:41:21AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: OBVIOUSLY YOUR CALL.
10:41:22AM I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ERICA AND CEDRIC TO GIVE YOU
10:41:25AM AN UPDATE ON WHERE THEY ARE GETTING CANDIDATES.
10:41:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE YOU GO.
10:41:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXCUSE ME.
10:41:30AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND VIERA.
10:41:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SHE WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH
10:41:34AM HER MOTION.
10:41:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S GET THE COMMENTS IN.
10:41:36AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE AS THE CHAIR.
10:41:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST LISTENING RIGHT NOW.
10:41:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO GIVE GENERAL COMMENTS.
10:41:43AM IT WASN'T RESPONSIVE TO THE MOTION.
10:41:45AM ONCE WE VOTE, I'LL SPEAK.
10:41:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL POSTPONE MY MOTION UNTIL DIRECTOR
10:41:51AM MOODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO DO HER MONTHLY REPORT.
10:41:54AM MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE, AND THIS WOULDN'T BE
10:41:57AM FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE SINCE WE'VE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, ARE
10:42:03AM WE NOT DOING THE FIVE-MINUTE TIMER?
10:42:06AM SHE HAS NOT SET THE TIMER.
10:42:08AM IF WE COULD KEEP THINGS MOVING, SET THE FIVE-MINUTE TIMER
10:42:11AM FOR US AS WE SPEAK.
10:42:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:42:13AM I THINK MANISCALCO WAS THE LONGEST, BUT OKAY.
10:42:16AM GENERAL COMMENTS, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:42:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO MR. PARIS.
10:42:25AM I JUST WANT TO SAY GREAT REMARKS AND I WANTED TO SALUTE YOU
10:42:29AM ESPECIALLY AS AN ATTORNEY.
10:42:30AM ALWAYS HAVE A PLACE IN MY HEART FOR LAWYERS WHO GIVE TO THE
10:42:35AM PUBLIC.
10:42:36AM THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES
10:42:41AM TO BOARD MEMBERS.
10:42:43AM BUT JUST FOR YOU, YOU OBVIOUSLY -- YOU RUN A SOLO PRACTICE,
10:42:47AM RIGHT?
10:42:48AM >>CLINT PARIS: YES.
10:42:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT AIN'T EASY.
10:42:51AM THAT IS A REASON WHY I AM A FIRM.
10:42:54AM AIN'T EASY.
10:42:55AM TRUST ME.
10:42:55AM OBVIOUSLY YOUR WORDS COME FROM A LOT OF MANPOWER AND LABOR,
10:43:00AM ET CETERA.
10:43:01AM JUST KNOW THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT.
10:43:02AM AGAIN, AN ATTORNEY WHO HAS GIVEN BACK TO THE PUBLIC LIKE
10:43:06AM THAT, IT COMES FROM A REALLY LONG TRADITION IN HILLSBOROUGH
10:43:08AM COUNTY, IN FLORIDA, ET CETERA.
10:43:10AM SO I JUST WANTED TO SALUTE THAT.
10:43:13AM ONE THING I WOULD SAY, WE PROBABLY SHOULD REACH OUT TO OUR
10:43:16AM FRIENDS, BOTH MEMBERS OF EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION, REACH OUT
10:43:20AM TO CORNELIUS AND DEE, A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOLKS WHO WOULD BE SO
10:43:25AM WELL QUALIFIED I WOULD THINK WHO WOULD BE REMARKABLE BOARD
10:43:29AM MEMBERS THERE.
10:43:30AM SO THAT'S AN AVENUE THAT MAYBE, IF PERMISSIBLE, WE COULD
10:43:33AM WORK ON, BECAUSE CALL ME NAIVE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT
10:43:38AM OF GOOD FOLKS WHO COULD DO THAT.
10:43:41AM JUST AN IDEA.
10:43:43AM >>CLINT PARIS: ONE OF THE ISSUES, THE SEATS ARE RESERVED,
10:43:47AM RECOMMENDATIONS FROM WITHIN ASSOCIATIONS.
10:43:49AM SO JUST BEING QUALIFIED DOESN'T GET YOU -- YOU GOT TO KIND
10:43:54AM OF RIGHT NOW COME THROUGH THAT -- THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY WE
10:43:58AM CAST A NET MAYBE A LITTLE TOO NARROW IN THAT REGARD THIS
10:44:01AM FIRST YEAR AND MAYBE GOING FORWARD THAT WILL WORK.
10:44:04AM IF THEY ARE IN THOSE ASSOCIATIONS AND CAN GET THE
10:44:07AM RECOMMENDATION TO PUT FORWARD OR THE TIME RUNS OUT AND
10:44:11AM AT-LARGE SEATS DIDN'T GET FILLED AND I KNOW CEDRIC HAS BEEN
10:44:15AM WORKING CREATIVELY TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BUT, FIRST,
10:44:19AM WE DON'T WANT TO OFFEND THESE ASSOCIATIONS WHEN WE'VE TOLD
10:44:21AM THEM YOU ALL GET TO NOW SUBMIT RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE
10:44:25AM JUST KIND OF ROLL OVER THAT AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY WERE NOT
10:44:28AM GIVEN A CHANCE TO MEET AND DO IT PROPERLY.
10:44:31AM SO THAT'S THE SENSITIVITY I THINK THAT WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL
10:44:35AM WITH AS WELL.
10:44:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, WISE WORDS THAT COME FROM A LOT OF TIME
10:44:39AM OF EXPERIENCE.
10:44:40AM HAVING THESE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS RESPECTIVELY, IF
10:44:43AM IT COMES DOWN TO THAT, I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING WISE THAT
10:44:46AM MAYBE WE COULD WORK ON LATER.
10:44:47AM AGAIN, I WANTED TO SALUTE YOU AS A COLLEAGUE THAT YOU'RE
10:44:50AM OBVIOUSLY GIVING A LOT OF TIME TO THE PUBLIC OUT OF YOUR
10:44:52AM PRACTICE AND A LOT OF BILLABLE HOURS AND WHAT NOT.
10:44:56AM YOU'RE LAUGHING.
10:44:56AM I'M LAUGHING WITH YOU.
10:44:57AM JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
10:44:59AM SO THANK YOU.
10:45:01AM >>CLINT PARIS: I WOULD SAY THIS, AND EVERY CHANCE I GET TO
10:45:04AM SAY IT, I SAY IT.
10:45:07AM I AM A PUBLIC SCHOOL, PUBLIC SUPPORT PRODUCT OF TAMPA.
10:45:13AM IT'S RIDICULOUS TO TAKE ALL THAT SUPPORT AND BENEFIT AND NOT
10:45:17AM BE WILLING TO SHARE AND CONTRIBUTE WHERE YOU CAN.
10:45:20AM I'M JUST REALLY RETURNING THE PAYMENT I RECEIVED BASICALLY
10:45:26AM BECAUSE I GOT EVERY BENEFIT THIS COMMUNITY OFFERED GROWING
10:45:29AM UP.
10:45:29AM >> YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
10:45:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SANDRA'S LITTLE BROTHER, ATTORNEY PARIS,
10:45:35AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:45:36AM IT WAS VERY THOROUGH.
10:45:37AM I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN
10:45:39AM EAST TAMPA BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING.
10:45:42AM AS FOR THE TRANSITION, POINTING OUT AN ISSUE IS SOMETHING,
10:45:45AM OF COURSE, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS.
10:45:47AM I KNOW THAT THE BROAD APPEAL FOR GETTING REPRESENTATION FROM
10:45:50AM ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
10:45:54AM BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME
10:45:58AM ON THE ONSET OF BECOMING CRA CHAIR.
10:46:01AM ALSO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE IS REPRESENTATION
10:46:05AM IN EAST TAMPA.
10:46:07AM THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BY THIS BOARD IN TERMS OF THE
10:46:10AM RESTRUCTURING WAS UNANIMOUS, IF YOU RECALL THAT.
10:46:14AM IF THIS IS A FLAW IN TERMS OF TRANSITION NOT HAVING THAT
10:46:18AM QUORUM, YOU PRESENT THAT TO US AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY
10:46:21AM TO RECTIFY THAT, BUT THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO HAVE
10:46:24AM REPRESENTATION FROM ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.
10:46:27AM THERE WERE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS PRESENTED TO ME AND I'LL
10:46:30AM SAY IT PUBLICLY ABOUT THE ELECTION PROCESS.
10:46:32AM I'M NOT GOING TO QUESTION THAT OR ACCUSE ANYONE, BUT THAT
10:46:36AM WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS THAT I HAD WHERE PEOPLE FELT
10:46:40AM SHUTOUT AND LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS.
10:46:42AM EAST TAMPA IS GROWING IN TERMS OF ITS DIVERSITY.
10:46:49AM SO HAVING THAT REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE BOARD FROM THE
10:46:53AM VARIOUS ASSOCIATIONS IS SOMETHING THAT IS STILL RELEVANT TO
10:46:57AM BEING PRODUCTIVE AND THE QUALIFIED FOLKS THAT APPLY, WE'LL
10:47:01AM HEAR MORE IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT REGARDING THAT.
10:47:03AM BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.
10:47:05AM I DO APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING ALL THE GREAT THINGS
10:47:07AM HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA.
10:47:09AM WE ARE EXCITED.
10:47:12AM CEDRIC, MR. McCRAY, DIRECTOR MOODY, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
10:47:16AM EXTREMELY HARD, EVEN WITH SETBACKS AND COMMUNITY COMPLAINTS,
10:47:21AM WE STILL HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRUST THE PROCESS THAT WE
10:47:25AM HAVE SET IN PLACE AS A BOARD TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS ON
10:47:29AM BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:47:31AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT.
10:47:36AM >>CLINT PARIS: THANK YOU.
10:47:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT
10:47:41AM FROM DIRECTOR MOODY.
10:47:47AM >>ERICA MOODY: GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
10:47:48AM YOU KNOW THE MEETING IS LONG WHEN THE BINDER IS THIS THICK.
10:47:52AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
10:47:55AM I'M HERE TO PROVIDE A DIRECTOR'S UPDATE.
10:47:57AM WE'LL START WITH THE RESTRUCTURE AND CONTINUE THE
10:47:59AM CONVERSATION FROM THE PREVIOUS ITEM, AND THEN I WILL MOVE
10:48:03AM INTO TWO PRESENTATIONS AND PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMING DOWN
10:48:07AM THE PIPELINE TO THE BOARD.
10:48:09AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO PROJECTS AND HIGHLIGHT SOME
10:48:12AM MISSION MOMENTS OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE DISTRICTS OVER THE
10:48:14AM LAST MONTH.
10:48:15AM LET'S OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE RESTRUCTURE,
10:48:18AM SPECIFIC TO THE CAC, EAST TAMPA CAC.
10:48:21AM WE ARE GETTING IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKING THE ROUNDS AROUND
10:48:25AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, PUTTING OUT COMMUNICATIONS.
10:48:27AM I ATTENDED THE PARTNERSHIP MEETING THIS WEEK AND REALLY JUST
10:48:31AM TRYING TO GET ON THE GROUND LEVEL WITH THE COMMUNITY TO LET
10:48:33AM ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:48:35AM WE CAN DEFINITELY ENHANCE THAT IN THE COMMUNICATION.
10:48:37AM LIKE YOU SAID, CHAIR HENDERSON, WHEN ISSUES ARE RAISED TO
10:48:40AM OUR ATTENTION, THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMEDIATE,
10:48:42AM FIX, AND WE DO EXPECT SOME COURSE CORRECTION ALONG THE WAY.
10:48:45AM SO I WANTED TO EXPLAIN REALLY THE PROCESS OF EAST TAMPA CAC
10:48:49AM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
10:48:52AM AND IT'S REALLY BASED ON BOUNDARY TO CAST THAT WIDE NET.
10:48:56AM EACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS PART OF A BOUNDARY MAP.
10:48:59AM ANYONE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY CAN APPLY AND SUBMIT THEIR
10:49:03AM APPLICATION TO MR. McCRAY.
10:49:04AM MR. McCRAY BRINGS THOSE APPLICATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:49:07AM ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AND THEN THE
10:49:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WOULD GIVE US THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
10:49:13AM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE
10:49:15AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOUNDARY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE
10:49:19AM APPLICANTS LIVE, WORK OR OWN IN THAT BOUNDARY AND HAVE THE
10:49:21AM SKILL SET AND TECHNICALITY THAT CAN HELP PUSH THE OBJECTIVES
10:49:25AM OF THE CRA FORWARD.
10:49:27AM REALLY WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY AND THEN BRINGING THOSE
10:49:29AM APPLICATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND GETTING
10:49:31AM THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
10:49:32AM AND THEN THE IDEA WOULD BE TO BRING THAT TO THE CAC, HAVE
10:49:35AM THEM LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS, PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION AS
10:49:38AM WELL, AND THAT BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.
10:49:41AM SO WE HAVE BEEN HARD AT WORK AND DON'T KNOW IF MR. McCRAY
10:49:44AM STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM BUT HE HAS 10 OR 12 APPLICATIONS
10:49:48AM CURRENTLY AND THEY ARE REALLY EXCITING.
10:49:50AM WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS WITH BACKGROUNDS IN REAL ESTATE,
10:49:53AM TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERING, COMMUNITY ADVOCACY, AND REALLY
10:49:59AM AN EXCITING POOL THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING TO YOU IN
10:50:01AM JANUARY.
10:50:02AM SO YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT BEFORE YOU IN JANUARY, AND WE
10:50:05AM EXPECT TO WELCOME THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE EAST TAMPA CAC IN
10:50:08AM FEBRUARY.
10:50:08AM I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR QUESTIONS ON THE TECHNICALITIES OF THE
10:50:13AM CAC AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE RESTRUCTURE.
10:50:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:50:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:50:22AM SO WE HAVE 12 CANDIDATES -- APPLICANTS.
10:50:27AM ARE THEY FOR -- ARE THERE MULTIPLES FOR SPECIFIC SEATS.
10:50:35AM I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YES, WE HAVE 12 APPLICANTS, BUT HOW
10:50:39AM MANY SPACES ARE WE MISSING APPLICANTS FROM?
10:50:43AM >>ERICA MOODY: WE ARE MISSING FROM TWO NEIGHBORHOOD
10:50:44AM ASSOCIATIONS.
10:50:45AM SO THE GOAL IS TO GET THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO
10:50:48AM RESPOND BY THE END OF THE MONTH, IF THE MOTION PASSES, AND
10:50:52AM IF THEY DO NOT THEN PER THE POLICY IT WILL REVERT TO
10:50:55AM AT-LARGE AND OPEN UP TO SOME OF THE AT-LARGE CANDIDATES.
10:50:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I STILL THINK THE MOTION, DO YOU THINK THE
10:51:00AM MOTION MAKES SENSE?
10:51:02AM >>ERICA MOODY: I DO, TO HELP PUSH IT ALONG AND GET IT GOING.
10:51:05AM YES, ABSOLUTELY.
10:51:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:51:07AM I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN UNLESS -- I MAKE A MOTION -- OH,
10:51:18AM GOSH.
10:51:18AM MORRIS HAD A REALLY LOVELY WAY TO SAY IT.
10:51:22AM I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO SAY IT AGAIN, MR. MASSEY.
10:51:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THE MOTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
10:51:27AM MAKE IS THAT DECEMBER 29 WOULD BE THE CUTOFF DATE FOR
10:51:31AM APPLICATIONS FOR THIS CYCLE FOR THE EAST TAMPA CAC, AND
10:51:38AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT HAVE EX OFFICIO SEATS THAT ARE UP
10:51:41AM FOR NOMINATION THIS CYCLE, IF THEY HAVE NOT MADE A
10:51:45AM NOMINATION BY THE CUTOFF DATE, THEN IT WOULD REVERT TO
10:51:51AM AT-LARGE SEAT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THAT --
10:51:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
10:51:56AM THAT IS THE MOTION I WANT TO MAKE.
10:51:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MIRANDA SECONDED THE FIRST TIME.
10:52:00AM WOULD YOU LIKE THE COURTESY OF DOING THAT AGAIN?
10:52:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:52:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:52:04AM WE HAVE A MOTION.
10:52:04AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
10:52:05AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:52:06AM AYE.
10:52:07AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:52:07AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:52:11AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:52:12AM JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
10:52:13AM WE'RE REALLY DIVING INTO OUR CACs AS WELL, GETTING TO KNOW
10:52:17AM THEM.
10:52:17AM IT'S AMAZING.
10:52:18AM THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS JOB BECAUSE IT COMES FROM THE GROUND
10:52:21AM LEVEL UP AND WE HAVE AN EXPERT IN THE ROOM, OUR YBOR INTERIM
10:52:24AM MANAGER, MS. BRENDA THROWER WHO IS WORKING ON CAC 101
10:52:28AM TRAINING FOR CAC MEMBERS TO LEARN ABOUT THE CRA, WHAT WE
10:52:31AM CAN, WHAT WE CAN'T DO AND REALLY GET THAT UNDERSTANDING SO
10:52:34AM WE CAN SET THE GROUNDWORK RIGHT OFF THE BAT AS WE WELCOME
10:52:38AM NEW MEMBERS AND THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE INNER WORKINGS OF
10:52:40AM THE CAC AND THE CRA AND HOW THEY FUNCTION.
10:52:44AM IN ADDITION, WE ARE DOING ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL
10:52:48AM DEVELOPMENT TRAINING WITH OUR MANAGERS SO THEY CAN HELP
10:52:50AM FACILITATE THESE MEETINGS MORE EFFECTIVELY, GUIDE
10:52:53AM CONVERSATIONS AND DECISIONS TO MAKE THEM CRA SPECIFIC AND
10:52:56AM REALLY BE THE EXPERTS IN FACILITATING AND MANAGING THESE
10:52:59AM MEETINGS.
10:53:00AM AS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL.
10:53:02AM AND WE CAN KIND OF MOVE THAT INTO PART OF THE RESTRUCTURE
10:53:04AM WAS RESTRUCTURING OUR STAFF.
10:53:07AM WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, IT WAS VERY DISTRICT SPECIFIC AND
10:53:10AM EACH DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE UNIQUE, THE OPERATIONS WERE
10:53:14AM COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AS FAR AS INVOICING, CONTRACTING WITH
10:53:18AM VENDORS.
10:53:19AM SO IT WAS ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS BEING RUN
10:53:21AM UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.
10:53:23AM SO THE IDEA IS TO REALLY STREAMLINE THOSE EFFICIENCIES AND
10:53:28AM STILL UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF EACH DISTRICT BECAUSE
10:53:30AM EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT, AND THAT IS REALLY WHERE THE
10:53:33AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN COMES INTO PLAY TO HAVE THE
10:53:35AM DISTRICT-SPECIFIC INITIATIVES AND ACTIVITIES THAT GO IN.
10:53:39AM THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE RESTRUCTURE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE IS
10:53:41AM NOW WE HAVE OUR PROJECT, OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER, A
10:53:44AM PROFESSIONAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM.
10:53:47AM WE HAVE A GRANTS TEAM WITH AMAZING GRANTS MANAGER THAT WE'RE
10:53:52AM UNDERWAY WITH A GRANT AUDIT RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE AN
10:53:55AM ADMINISTRATION TEAM WE'RE BUILDING OUT SO WE CAN HAVE ALL OF
10:53:57AM OUR CONTRACTING AND FILES ORGANIZED AND ARCHIVED PROPERLY
10:54:00AM AND THEN WE ALSO ARE BUILDING OUT THAT HOUSING TEAM.
10:54:03AM SO JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN IT'S BASED MORE ON STRENGTH AND
10:54:07AM FUNCTION RATHER THAN DISTRICTS.
10:54:08AM SO WE CAN BRING THOSE TO THE DISTRICTS AND PROVIDE THOSE
10:54:11AM UPDATES.
10:54:12AM AND THAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST EAST TAMPA CAC MEETING.
10:54:15AM WE HAD OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER COME IN, TEACH ABOUT
10:54:20AM PROJECT TRACKING AND TIMELINES, BUILDING THE TOUCH POINTS
10:54:22AM WITH THE COMMUNITY OF WHERE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
10:54:24AM THAT INPUT AND THAT'S PART OF THE TRANSITION.
10:54:27AM IT'S LOOKING AND FEELING DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE BUILDING THAT
10:54:31AM MOMENTUM AND REALLY BRINGING IN THE EXPERTS TO BE ABLE TO
10:54:34AM SPEAK ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS, GRANTS, AND INITIATIVES.
10:54:37AM JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AGAIN.
10:54:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DIRECTOR MOODY, WHILE I'M THINKING ABOUT
10:54:42AM IT, THE COMMUNICATION THAT GOES OUT REGARDING THIS DEADLINE
10:54:45AM THAT WE'VE JUST GIVEN, MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD IS INCLUDED,
10:54:49AM COPIED ON THAT COMMUNICATION SO WE CAN SPEAK UPON IT WHEN
10:54:51AM OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING ABOUT IT.
10:54:53AM AND THAT IT GOES ACROSS OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AS WELL
10:54:57AM AS TO ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS.
10:54:59AM >>ERICA MOODY: YES, MA'AM.
10:55:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:55:02AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
10:55:06AM OKAY.
10:55:07AM CONTINUE.
10:55:08AM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT ON THE RESTRUCTURE.
10:55:15AM JUST A REMINDER THAT WE UPDATED OUR MISSION, VISION, AND
10:55:18AM OBJECTIVES, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS BUILDING A PROJECT
10:55:21AM PRIORITIZATION MATRIX THAT INCLUDES THE BOARD'S OBJECTIVES
10:55:24AM AND REALLY FILTERS THEM THROUGH THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES, THE
10:55:27AM PRIORITIES OF THE SPECIFIC CRP AND THE IDEA TO BE ABLE TO
10:55:31AM SCORE PROJECTS AND PRESENTATIONS THAT COME OUR WAY SO THEY
10:55:34AM CAN MEET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD TO BE IN ALIGNMENT SO WE CAN
10:55:38AM ENTERTAIN CERTAIN ASKS.
10:55:40AM ALL THIS IS TYING INTO THOSE INDICATORS.
10:55:42AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION OUR GRANT AUDIT THAT
10:55:44AM IS UNDERWAY.
10:55:45AM WE HAVE REVIEWED -- WE HAD 18 GRANTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT, SO
10:55:49AM WE HAVE DONE A DEEP DIVE IN THE GRANTS THE LAST FEW MONTHS
10:55:53AM AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO ORGANIZE NEW DOCUMENTS AROUND
10:55:56AM AWARD LETTERS, CONTRACTS, MEMOS TO THE BOARD, AND WE HAVE
10:55:59AM ALL THESE STANDARDIZED TEMPLATES THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO
10:56:02AM BRING BACK TO THE BOARD COME THE MARCH 21st MEETING.
10:56:05AM AND WE'LL ALSO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHICH
10:56:08AM GRANTS CAN BE CONSOLIDATED, ENHANCED, WHICH ONES CAN BE
10:56:12AM SUNSETTED.
10:56:12AM AND WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BEING A ROBUST DISCUSSION
10:56:15AM SO WE CAN FINALIZE OUR GRANTS AND PROGRAMS AND ROLL THEM
10:56:18AM BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.
10:56:21AM SO MORE TO COME ON THE GRANT AUDIT AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS
10:56:24AM BRINGING THAT TO YOU IN MARCH.
10:56:26AM THAT'S ALL IN THE GRANT AUDIT OR ON THE RESTRUCTURE.
10:56:31AM I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO UPCOMING PROJECTS AND PRESENTATIONS
10:56:34AM TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
10:56:36AM SO WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN AND SPECIFIC TO THE
10:56:40AM ARMY NAVY LOT THAT THE CRA PURCHASED, THERE ARE THREE
10:56:45AM CONTINUOUS LOTS.
10:56:46AM THE CRA OWNS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE AND THE CITY OWNS THE ONE
10:56:49AM TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PARCEL.
10:56:51AM IT'S QUITE A BIT OF LAND.
10:56:53AM CITY PLANNING HAS BEEN WORKING TO LOOK AT THE ZONING, THE
10:56:57AM FUTURE LAND USE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE
10:57:01AM IT HAS UNLIMITED DENSITY AND INTENSITY ON THE SITE.
10:57:03AM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR THE BOARD TO INVITE CITY
10:57:07AM PLANNING TO COME NEXT MONTH AT THE JANUARY 18 BOARD MEETING
10:57:11AM SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT
10:57:14AM YOUR DECISIONS AND YOUR INPUT WILL INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF
10:57:18AM THIS SITE.
10:57:19AM SO THAT'S SETTING UP FOR JANUARY 18 BOARD MEETING FOR CITY
10:57:24AM PLANNING TO COME AND SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON THE ARMY NAVY
10:57:27AM LOT.
10:57:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, CLENDENIN, AND THEN
10:57:29AM VIERA.
10:57:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU
10:57:34AM HAVE DONE SO MUCH WORK IN SO LITTLE TIME.
10:57:37AM I KNOW I SAY THIS PRIVATELY BUT I REALLY ALSO WANT TO MAKE
10:57:40AM SURE I SAY IT TO YOU PUBLICLY AND TO YOUR STAFF.
10:57:44AM YOU'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB.
10:57:46AM IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN SIX MONTHS.
10:57:48AM WE ARE REALLY, REALLY MOVING ALONG.
10:57:52AM YOU'RE DOING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THIS BOARD ENVISIONED.
10:57:55AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:57:57AM I KNOW IT'S HARD BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MOVING
10:58:01AM PARTS, BUT I JUST REALLY LIKE THE WAY THAT WE'RE MOVING
10:58:07AM FORWARD WITH THE RESTRUCTURE.
10:58:08AM I ALSO WANTED TO SAY RELATED TO THE RFQ THAT I'M REALLY
10:58:13AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO HAVE
10:58:17AM CITY PLANNING STAFF COME FORWARD ON JANUARY 18th TO TALK
10:58:21AM TO US ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES WITH THOSE FOUR PARCELS FOR
10:58:24AM THE ARMY NAVY, KNOWN AS THE ARMY NAVY PARCELS.
10:58:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER -- OKAY.
10:58:33AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS?
10:58:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAY HAVE -- I MAY ASK TO AMEND IT A
10:58:40AM LITTLE BIT.
10:58:40AM AS WE'VE PRIVATELY DISCUSSED AND PUBLIC, AS WE LOOK AT THE
10:58:46AM REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE LOOK AT ADDING 24
10:58:48AM DORMITORY-STYLE HOUSING FOR THE CONSERVATORY SO WE CAN BRING
10:58:53AM STUDENTS.
10:58:57AM ENSURING A MIXED USE OF HOUSING.
10:58:59AM BRINGS YOUNG PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, PROXIMITY TO THE CONSERVATORY.
10:59:05AM AS WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PLAN, MAYBE AN AMENDMENT TO
10:59:10AM THE MOTION, AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROJECT,
10:59:12AM THE STUDENT HOUSING FOR THE CONSERVATORY.
10:59:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT.
10:59:19AM BRILLIANT IDEA.
10:59:20AM I LOVE IT.
10:59:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:59:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:59:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS YOU ALL KNOW, I DISAGREE AT THE CURRENT
10:59:29AM TIME SUBSIDIZING AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWNTOWN.
10:59:32AM PHILOSOPHICALLY I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING AFFORDABLE OR
10:59:35AM WORKFORCE HOUSING DOWNTOWN.
10:59:36AM I THINK WITH THE OTHER PRESSING NEEDS IN THE CITY AND THE
10:59:39AM LOWER COST IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.
10:59:43AM THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IS SURROUNDED BY
10:59:45AM PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY OWNS.
10:59:46AM I THINK THE BEST, MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO WOULD BE FOR THE
10:59:49AM CRA TO GIVE THIS PROPERTY TO THE CITY AND LET THE CITY
10:59:53AM MANAGE IT USING FEDERAL AND OTHER GRANTS.
10:59:55AM IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE'LL HAVE TO USE CITY STAFF
10:59:58AM ANYWAY, SO WHY COMPLICATE IT BY HAVING THE CRA TRY TO BUILD
11:00:01AM A DIFFERENT BUILDING THAT'S SANDWICHED IN BY TWO OTHER
11:00:05AM BUILDINGS?
11:00:05AM LET THE CITY HAVE IT.
11:00:06AM LET THE CITY RUN IT.
11:00:08AM THE NEXT THING ALSO COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE GRANT MONEY
11:00:10AM AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT SEPARATELY.
11:00:13AM IT SHOULD NOT BE AN ENTIRE PROCESS THAT WE RUN.
11:00:15AM WE'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF LAND.
11:00:17AM LET'S HAND IT OVER AND NOT GO THROUGH -- THE STAFF FOR THE
11:00:21AM CRA IS ALREADY OVERWORKED.
11:00:22AM LET'S NOT COMPLICATE IT BY MAKING THE CRA RUN THIS.
11:00:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:00:28AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:00:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:32AM I WANT TO ECHO THE POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT YOU, MS. MOODY.
11:00:35AM OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
11:00:37AM YOU'RE DOING VERY, VERY WELL.
11:00:39AM I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
11:00:40AM ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING FOR AND WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT
11:00:43AM THIS AS WELL, IS LOOKING AT THE ARMY NAVY PROPERTY AS WELL.
11:00:49AM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR WHAT I CALL THE
11:00:56AM COVID FRONTLINE WORKERS, THE PEOPLE WHO WENT TO WORK DURING
11:00:59AM OUR PANDEMIC, WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THE MISSING MIDDLE,
11:01:03AM WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IN HOUSING, OUR TEACHERS, OUR
11:01:06AM DOCTORS, OUR COPS, OUR NURSES, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AND
11:01:09AM NOTHING AGAINST THE STUDENT THING, THAT'S AWESOME, BUT THIS
11:01:13AM PROPERTY PARTICULARLY IT WAS ARMY NAVY, RIGHT, AND IT'S
11:01:17AM DOWNTOWN.
11:01:18AM YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING IS REALLY
11:01:23AM SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE.
11:01:24AM AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT UNIQUE PROPERTY FOR CONSIDERATION,
11:01:30AM AND I COULD DO A SEPARATE MOTION BECAUSE IT CAN EITHER BE
11:01:33AM THIS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHATEVER, BUT FOR OUR FRONTLINE
11:01:37AM WORKERS, DURING COVID, WE OFTEN TALKED ABOUT THROWING THESE
11:01:42AM FOLKS PARADES AND WHATNOT.
11:01:43AM INSTEAD OF PARADES, MAYBE WE CAN GIVE THEM A HOUSE.
11:01:46AM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
11:01:48AM GIVE THEM SOME HOUSING.
11:01:50AM I DO SUPPORT CRA FUNDING FOR DOWNTOWN FOR HOUSING.
11:01:55AM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:01:57AM I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE ROOM FOR THAT.
11:01:59AM IN FACT, WHEN I VOTED NO ON THE $25 MILLION AT THE STRAZ
11:02:02AM CENTER, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I SAID THAT, ONE OF THE
11:02:06AM MANY REASONS TO THAT LEVEL, RIGHT, FROM THE 15 TO 25 MILLION
11:02:09AM IS BECAUSE WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOUSING ACCESSIBILITY IN THE
11:02:14AM DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:02:14AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
11:02:15AM SO, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S STUDENTS OR FOR WHOEVER, I THINK
11:02:19AM IT'S GREAT.
11:02:20AM IT MOVES US FORWARD.
11:02:21AM AND WE SHOULD HAVE ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN AND NOT
11:02:26AM JUST MAKE OUR DOWNTOWN FOR THE WEALTHY OR FOR THOSE WHO
11:02:29AM ASPIRE TO BE WEALTHY.
11:02:31AM SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING.
11:02:33AM I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION, BUT I WILL
11:02:38AM BE DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE -- I GUESS I CAN DEAL WITH IT
11:02:41AM SEPARATELY.
11:02:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, THAT MIGHT BE A
11:02:44AM SEPARATE MOTION.
11:02:45AM I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE AS A BODY JUST APPROVED --
11:02:51AM I FORGET WHAT THEY ARE CALLED.
11:02:53AM FORGET IT EVERY TIME.
11:02:54AM NOT THE MOTTO.
11:02:55AM OUR GOALS.
11:02:57AM OUR GOALS WERE IN THE CRAs, ALL OVER, 80% AND BELOW AMI,
11:03:03AM WE SAID THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT WE PRIORITIZED, SO IN
11:03:07AM THAT WE WOULD BE PRIORITIZING THOSE TYPES OF FRONTLINE
11:03:12AM WORKERS.
11:03:13AM I ALSO WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT FRONTLINE WORKERS WERE ALSO
11:03:16AM STORE WORKERS, GAS STATION WORKERS, DELIVERY PEOPLE, GROCERY
11:03:20AM STORES, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT.
11:03:23AM I THINK THAT WE, IN OUR MANDATE OF 80% AND BELOW, THAT THAT
11:03:30AM WILL CAPTURE THOSE FOLKS.
11:03:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE MANY,
11:03:37AM MANY.
11:03:37AM MY STATEMENT WASN'T MEANT TO BE EXCLUSIVE OF OTHER PEOPLE,
11:03:41AM BUT I'M PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT, HOW SHALL I SAY IT,
11:03:46AM THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS.
11:03:48AM WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE WORKING CLASS, BLUE COLLAR, ALSO
11:03:51AM LOOK AT LOWER INCOME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:03:54AM WE CAN DO IT ALL, RIGHT?
11:03:55AM WE CAN DO IT ALL.
11:03:58AM A LOT OF TIMES WE GIVE A LOT TO THE HAVES.
11:04:00AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE HAVE-NOTS.
11:04:02AM WE DON'T GIVE ENOUGH TO THE HAVE-NOTS, BUT WE DON'T TALK
11:04:05AM ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THAT MIDDLE WHO ARE BEING SQUEEZED OUT
11:04:07AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN THEY ARE MAKING TAMPA INTO MIAMI
11:04:10AM WITH INFLATION AND RUNAWAY HOUSING COSTS.
11:04:14AM I BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT ALL.
11:04:15AM AGAIN, I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
11:04:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANOTHER COMMENT FROM YOU, CLENDENIN?
11:04:19AM I JUST WANT TO ADD THE PIECE ABOUT HOUSING, STUDENT HOUSING
11:04:24AM FOR, YOU SAID THE STRAZ STUDENTS, YEAH, THE CONSERVATORY, A
11:04:28AM BROADER APPEAL FOR ME, JUST SAY STUDENTS IN GENERAL BECAUSE
11:04:32AM THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO COME HERE FOR THEIR INTERNSHIPS THAT
11:04:35AM WORK AT TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL, FOR FLORIDA A AND M
11:04:38AM UNIVERSITY, UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA STUDENTS, MEDICAL
11:04:41AM STUDENTS.
11:04:42AM THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MIX THAT HOUSING AS WELL TO
11:04:44AM CONSIDER STUDENTS IN GENERAL WHO NEED A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE.
11:04:48AM IF THIS CAN BE MIXED IN WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY
11:04:51AM GREAT, ALONG WITH, OF COURSE, WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THINKING
11:04:55AM BEYOND JUST TEACHERS AND FIREMEN, THAT PAY SCALE THAT DROPS
11:04:58AM EVEN LOWER IS THE FOLKS WHO DELIVER OUR FOOD HERE DOWNTOWN
11:05:04AM AND JUST A WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION
11:05:07AM THAT WE NEED TO ALWAYS THINK ABOUT AS A BOARD WHEN IT COMES
11:05:11AM TO HOUSING DOWNTOWN.
11:05:12AM DOWNTOWN SHOULD BENEFIT THE DIVERSITY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:05:19AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
11:05:20AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:05:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO REITERATE MY POINT, WE NEED 50,000
11:05:27AM HOMES TO FILL THE GAP THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TODAY.
11:05:30AM IF WE SUBSIDIZE EACH ONE AT HUNDRED THOUSAND, THAT'S $5
11:05:33AM BILLION AND OUR WHOLE BUDGET IS $1.9 BILLION.
11:05:37AM WE DON'T POSSIBLY HAVE THE MONEY TO FILL THAT GAP.
11:05:39AM IF WE SUBSIDIZE THEM, ONE OF THE PROPOSALS TODAY IS
11:05:42AM SUBSIDIZING AT 350,000 PER UNIT.
11:05:44AM IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR -- SORRY --
11:05:52AM MY MATH -- LIKE $20 BILLION.
11:05:54AM IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT 15 TO 20 BILLION.
11:05:58AM IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EXPONENTIALLY WORSE AND MORE
11:06:02AM EXPENSIVE.
11:06:02AM IF WE CAN BUILD HOUSING AND MOVE THE MONEY JUST OUTSIDE OF
11:06:05AM DOWNTOWN, WE CAN BUILD MUCH CHEAPER HOUSING BECAUSE WE NEED
11:06:08AM TO GET TO UNITS AND PHILOSOPHICALLY IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT
11:06:11AM THEM IN DOWNTOWN, BUT WHEN WE HAVE A 50,000 UNIT SHORTAGE
11:06:14AM THAT WE CAN'T POSSIBLY MEET, WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH PER
11:06:17AM UNIT DOWNTOWN.
11:06:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR -- YES.
11:06:21AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS RELATIVE TO YOUR
11:06:24AM MOTION.
11:06:24AM YOU MAY WANT TO INVITE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF
11:06:27AM AS WELL ON THE 18th.
11:06:29AM WHAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT OR REALLY -- ARE REALLY WHO
11:06:32AM IS GOING TO OCCUPY.
11:06:33AM CITY PLANNING IS MORE ABOUT THE PHYSICAL BUILDING, THE MIX
11:06:37AM OF USES.
11:06:38AM THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION JUST TO YOU ALL,
11:06:40AM STUDENT HOUSING IS NOT A RECOGNIZED USE UNDER OUR ZONING
11:06:45AM TABLE.
11:06:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS TRUE.
11:06:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY IF THAT'S OKAY
11:06:52AM WITH YOU, HOW ABOUT SINGLE RESIDENT OCCUPANCY, SRO?
11:06:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY REASON I SAID THAT SPECIFICALLY IT
11:07:00AM WOULD BE DORMITORY HOUSING.
11:07:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH IS WHAT SRO REALLY IS.
11:07:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 24 UNITS WOULD BE THE DESIRED NUMBER FOR
11:07:09AM THE CONSERVATORY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SO THEY CAN FILL YEAR
11:07:13AM ROUND, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
11:07:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, YES, OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE,
11:07:20AM SO WE CAN'T DO THAT.
11:07:21AM YEAH, SO MAYBE EXPAND TO ALSO SINGLE RESIDENT OCCUPANCY,
11:07:25AM CALL IT THAT.
11:07:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. MORRIS, I HAVE A QUESTION.
11:07:34AM WHY COULDN'T THEY ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST?
11:07:38AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: STUDENT HOUSING IS NOT A RECOGNIZED USE
11:07:40AM UNDER OUR ZONING TABLE.
11:07:42AM WHENEVER YOU ALL APPROVE A HOUSING PROJECT, IT IS NOT,
11:07:46AM ANYTHING AROUND USF OR UT, WHILE IT MAY BE PRIMARILY
11:07:49AM DESIGNED FOR THE STUDENTS, IT IS NOT CLASSIFIED AS STUDENT
11:07:52AM HOUSING.
11:07:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COULD WE DO IT IN A PD AND MAKE THAT
11:07:57AM HAPPEN?
11:07:58AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO.
11:07:59AM WE'D HAVE TO AMEND I THINK OUR ZONING CODE AND A COUPLE OF
11:08:02AM NEW DEFINITIONS.
11:08:03AM IT IS A MORE INVOLVED PROCESS.
11:08:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN STILL DO THAT.
11:08:07AM JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:08:09AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PROBABLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN YOUR
11:08:11AM CAPACITY AS CITY COUNCIL, BUT, YES, THERE MAY BE A WAY TO DO
11:08:16AM IT.
11:08:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO CONTINUE KNOWING THAT WE'LL HAVE
11:08:19AM TO DOT SOME Is AND CROSSING Ts TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.
11:08:23AM THANK YOU.
11:08:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
11:08:26AM MEMBER HURTAK AND SECOND BY -- SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER
11:08:33AM CLENDENIN.
11:08:34AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:08:35AM AYE.
11:08:35AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:08:37AM >> NAY.
11:08:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION CARRIES.
11:08:41AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
11:08:42AM IT REALLY HELPS TO GET THAT INPUT AND FEEDBACK BEFORE WE
11:08:45AM HAVE CITY PLANNING AND HCD COME BECAUSE NOW THEY CAN
11:08:48AM DIRECTLY RESPOND TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD AROUND THE
11:08:50AM CITY, TYPES OF HOUSING.
11:08:52AM SO THAT DISCUSSION IS PERFECT BECAUSE NOW CITY PLANNING CAN
11:08:57AM RESPOND TO IT APPROPRIATELY.
11:09:00AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE KIND
11:09:02AM WORDS.
11:09:02AM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
11:09:03AM IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS
11:09:06AM THE WAY FINDING DOWNTOWN.
11:09:08AM THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS, WHICH INCLUDE TAMPA HEIGHTS, CENTRAL
11:09:11AM PARK, CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN HAVE ENGAGED IN A CONCEPTUAL
11:09:16AM PROJECT TO SEE HOW WE CAN UPDATE AND REPLACE THE EXISTING
11:09:19AM SIGNAGE THAT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS AS WELL AS GET
11:09:22AM INTO SOME SPECIFIC DISTRICT BRANDING AND IDENTIFICATION AS
11:09:25AM YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN TAMPA,
11:09:27AM WHICH IS ONE OF THE PARTS THAT MAKE IT SO GREAT OF A PLACE
11:09:30AM TO BE.
11:09:30AM AND REALLY INCLUDING CREATIVE PLACE-MAKING ALONG WITH THE
11:09:35AM SIGNAGE AND DESIGN.
11:09:36AM IT'S MORE THAN JUST REPLACING SIGNS.
11:09:37AM IT'S ENHANCING IT WITH VISUALS AND CREATIVE PLACE-MAKING AND
11:09:41AM DIFFERENT GRAPHICS AND THINGS THAT CAN IDENTIFY THE
11:09:43AM DISTRICT.
11:09:44AM THEY HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO
11:09:47AM PRESENT, BUT MOSTLY THEY NARROWED IT DOWN TO FOUR DIFFERENT
11:09:50AM CONCEPTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE BOARD THAT
11:09:52AM HAVE DIFFERENT COLORS, DESIGNS, FONTS, AND REALLY GET YOUR
11:09:55AM INPUT ON WHAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE
11:09:58AM DOWNTOWN.
11:09:59AM THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING THEIR ROUNDS AROUND THE CACs.
11:10:01AM THEY HAVE ONE MORE CAC TO VISIT, WHICH IS CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:10:04AM AND WE EXPECT THEM TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN JANUARY, AND
11:10:08AM WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE WAY FINDING CONSULTANT AFTER
11:10:12AM RUNNING THROUGH THE CAC TO COME AND PRESENT TO THE CRA BOARD
11:10:15AM IN FEBRUARY.
11:10:16AM I BELIEVE THE MEETING IS FEBRUARY 8th.
11:10:18AM SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO INVITE THEM TO
11:10:20AM PRESENT THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT
11:10:24AM IDEAS.
11:10:25AM >> SO MOVE.
11:10:28AM >> SECOND.
11:10:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JANUARY 18 --
11:10:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FEBRUARY.
11:10:32AM FEBRUARY 8th.
11:10:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 8th.
11:10:35AM I WAS LOOKING AT THE NOTES HERE.
11:10:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
11:10:41AM MANISCALCO, SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:10:43AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:10:44AM AYE.
11:10:45AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:10:45AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:10:49AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:10:50AM JUST IN CLOSING, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME GREAT THINGS
11:10:53AM THAT HAPPENED IN THE DISTRICTS THIS MONTH.
11:10:55AM THIS MONTH OUR WEST TAMPA CRA MANAGER, MR. JESUS NINO, DID
11:10:59AM AN EXCELLENT JOB ROLLING OUT THE MAIN STREET REVITALIZATION
11:11:03AM PLAN AROUND SAFETY, DESIGN, ARTWORK.
11:11:07AM WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH PLANNING, WITH MOBILITY AND IT
11:11:10AM WAS JUST A PLEASURE TO ATTEND THE MEETING, SEE HOW ENGAGED
11:11:13AM THE CAC MEMBERS WERE, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THE
11:11:17AM COMMUNITY ADOPTS THESE PROJECTS AND IS PROUD BECAUSE IT'S
11:11:20AM FOR THEM.
11:11:21AM IT'S BUILT FOR THEM, GUIDED BY THEM AND REALLY DID A GREAT
11:11:24AM JOB OF INCLUDING THE CAC MEMBERS AND GETTING SOME EXCITEMENT
11:11:27AM ABOUT REVITALIZING MAIN STREET AND GETTING THE BUSINESS
11:11:31AM CORRIDOR BACK THRIVING.
11:11:32AM SO THAT HAPPENED THIS MONTH AS WELL AS COMMUNITY OUTREACH
11:11:37AM FOR REY PARK.
11:11:39AM ASKING THE RESIDENTS WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE REY PARK.
11:11:42AM ALSO WORKING ON SALCINES PARK AND STARTING TO OPEN UP THE
11:11:48AM DIALOGUE AROUND REVITALIZING REY PARK.
11:11:51AM WE HAD A COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETING FOR WASHINGTON STREET
11:11:53AM PARK WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO OPEN THAT PROJECT UP TO
11:11:56AM REVITALIZE WASHINGTON STREET PARK AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY
11:12:01AM WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE, DOG PARK, KID, MOVIE THEATER, IT IS
11:12:04AM KIND OF DREAM SESSION WHERE WE CAN COLLECT THAT INFORMATION
11:12:06AM AND THEN TURN IT INTO CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND RENDERINGS.
11:12:09AM THOSE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS ON MISSION MOMENTS THAT HAPPENED
11:12:14AM IN NOVEMBER.
11:12:14AM WE'LL START TO MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATIONS FOR TODAY.
11:12:17AM WE'RE ON DECENT TIME.
11:12:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:12:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'VE SPOKEN TO MS. MOODY AND ALSO TO MR.
11:12:27AM MASSEY.
11:12:30AM IN THE CITY -- ON THE CITY AGENDA WE HAVE A WHOLE PROCESS
11:12:34AM WHERE PROJECTS COME BEFORE US OVER SEVERAL MEETINGS.
11:12:37AM TODAY WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SEEING FOR THE FIRST
11:12:39AM TIME AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TODAY TO MAKE BIG DECISIONS ABOUT
11:12:42AM BIG DOLLARS.
11:12:43AM I'LL MAKE SOME MOTIONS AT THE END TO TRY TO CHANGE THAT
11:12:47AM PROCESS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS OR IF YOU ALL HAVE
11:12:50AM IDEAS, PLEASE.
11:12:51AM BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE AT THE LAST SECOND PROPOSING SOMETHING
11:12:57AM FOR MULTIMILLION DOLLAR EXPENDITURE THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN
11:13:01AM BEFORE.
11:13:01AM THANK YOU.
11:13:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S JUST A STAFF REPORT.
11:13:09AM >>ERICA MOODY: WE'RE MOVING INTO ITEM 3.
11:13:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO AHEAD.
11:13:12AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR COMMENTS, BOARD
11:13:16AM MEMBER CARLSON.
11:13:17AM THIS IS REALLY THE TIME TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE AND INFORM THE
11:13:21AM BOARD OF THE DECISIONS, GET THE PRESENTATION AND ALLOW YOU
11:13:24AM TO ASK QUESTIONS.
11:13:25AM IF YOU WANT TO PROBE FOR MORE INFORMATION OR DON'T FEEL
11:13:28AM COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION, YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT TO GET
11:13:31AM MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE MAKING AN
11:13:34AM INFORMED DECISION.
11:13:34AM SO THEY WILL BE COMING BEFORE US TODAY.
11:13:37AM THESE ARE REALLY CONSIDERED THE STAND-ALONE GRANTS THAT
11:13:40AM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
11:13:41AM THESE ARE THE LAST ONES THAT WE'LL BE ENTERTAINING UNTIL WE
11:13:44AM HAVE A STANDARDIZED PROCESS THAT WE CAN ROLL OUT.
11:13:47AM THESE ARE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SEVERAL,
11:13:49AM SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE I GOT HERE, AND WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO
11:13:52AM YOU TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE CRA FUNDING REQUEST.
11:13:56AM AND WITH THAT, THE PROCESS THAT IT'S BEEN USING RIGHT NOW
11:13:59AM FOR STAND-ALONE GRANT PROCESSES IS THE FLORIDA STATE
11:14:02AM STATUTE, IS IT IN LINE WITH CHAPTER 163 PART 3, IS IT IN THE
11:14:06AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CAN WE AFFORD IT IN OUR
11:14:09AM BUDGETS?
11:14:09AM IF THOSE THREE QUESTIONS ARE YES, WHICH ALL OF THE
11:14:12AM PRESENTATIONS COMING BEFORE US TODAY ARE, THEN THAT IS THE
11:14:15AM REASON WHY THEY ARE BEING BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD.
11:14:17AM BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WANT MORE INFORMATION OR IF YOU
11:14:20AM NEEDED MORE TIME, I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE YOU, YOU HAVE
11:14:23AM THE COMPLETE RIGHT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY COMPLEX
11:14:26AM DEALS.
11:14:26AM THE IDEA IS TO SHOW HOW DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS AND
11:14:30AM PRESENTATIONS AND HOW DIFFERENT DEALS ARE STRUCTURED SO THEN
11:14:33AM YOU CAN HELP INFORM THAT AS WE TIE THIS INTO OUR GRANT
11:14:36AM POLICY.
11:14:37AM I THINK TODAY WILL BE A GREAT LEARNING LESSON ON WHAT THE
11:14:39AM BOARD LIKES, DOESN'T LIKE, AND HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT
11:14:42AM FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING TO US.
11:14:45AM AND BRING THAT AS PART OF OUR GRANT MODIFICATION IN MARCH.
11:14:49AM THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS A DEVELOPER KNOWN AS LD AND D.
11:14:53AM THEY ARE MIAMI BASED.
11:14:54AM THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD SOME AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING
11:14:58AM UNITS.
11:14:59AM AND THIS DEVELOPMENT STRADDLES TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
11:15:02AM STRADDLES THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE CENTRAL PARK
11:15:05AM DISTRICT.
11:15:05AM I'LL START TO INVITE THEM UP TO THE DAIS AS I PULL UP THEIR
11:15:11AM PRESENTATION.
11:15:11AM THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD 40 OUT OF 360 UNITS WHICH IS 11%
11:15:15AM OF THE TOTAL UNITS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS RANGING FROM
11:15:19AM STUDIO TO TWO BEDROOMS, RANGING FROM 80% TO 140% AMI.
11:15:24AM AND THE CACs HAVE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS
11:15:29AM THE DOWNTOWN CAC AND CENTRAL PARK CAC.
11:15:32AM I'LL ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS TO COME AND PRESENT AND WE CAN
11:15:36AM FIELD ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
11:15:38AM I'LL PASS IT OFF TO MICHAEL AND DIEGO.
11:15:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:15:58AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME.
11:15:59AM MY NAME IS DIEGO.
11:16:05AM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL MILL.
11:16:13AM >> THANK YOU, ERICA, FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
11:16:15AM IT'S A PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO ALL OF YOU.
11:16:19AM FOR BACKGROUND, AS ERICA MENTIONED, WE ARE A MIAMI-BASED
11:16:23AM REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FIRM.
11:16:24AM WE HAVE DONE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA.
11:16:26AM THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR FIRST PROJECT IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA WHICH
11:16:30AM WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT.
11:16:32AM WE HAVE DONE BOTH MARKET RATE PROJECTS AND PROJECTS WHERE WE
11:16:37AM HAVE INCORPORATED WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT INTO THE
11:16:40AM PROJECT.
11:16:42AM TWO EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE ARE ON THE SCREEN
11:16:45AM RIGHT NOW.
11:16:45AM ONE IS WYNWOOD HOUSE, WHICH IS A 224 UNIT HIGH-RISE
11:16:51AM DEVELOPMENT IN MIAMI IN THE WYNWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:56AM IN THAT PROJECT, WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ANY WORKFORCE
11:16:58AM HOUSING BY EITHER THE CITY OR THE CRA OR ANY SORT OF -- WE
11:17:07AM DECIDED TO ENTER INTO A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT WITH THE OMNI
11:17:13AM CRA TO OFFER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS AS WORKFORCE HOUSING
11:17:14AM RANGING AT AMIs FROM 100 TO 140 PERCENT OF AMI.
11:17:19AM IN EXCHANGE WE RECEIVED A GRANT PLUS 95% OF THE TIF.
11:17:24AM THE OTHER EXAMPLE IS IN DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH WHERE WE'RE
11:17:29AM DEVELOPING 180-UNIT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH 130 HOTEL.
11:17:36AM IN THAT PROJECT WE ALSO ENTER INTO A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT
11:17:39AM WITH THE DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH CRA, FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING
11:17:47AM UNITS AT 100% OF AMI IN EXCHANGE FOR 50% OF THE TIF.
11:17:51AM WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT REQUIRED IN
11:17:54AM THESE PROJECTS TO HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THAT THEY ARE --
11:17:59AM THEY CREATE VERY VIBRANT MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES.
11:18:03AM WE THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS FROM IT.
11:18:05AM THE CRA BENEFITS FROM ACHIEVING THEIR GOALS AND CREATE AN
11:18:10AM ASSET THAT OVER TIME, BECAUSE OF MIXED INCOME NATURE,
11:18:14AM PERFORMS BETTER AS WELL.
11:18:16AM WE FOUND THEM TO BE GREAT WIN-WIN OPPORTUNITIES.
11:18:20AM JUST FOR CONTEXT, WE PURCHASED THE LOT THAT WE OWN IS ON
11:18:28AM CASS STREET WITHIN THE CENTRAL, LIKE ERICA MENTIONED, WITHIN
11:18:31AM BOTH THE CENTRAL PARK CRA AND THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:18:36AM WE THINK WE ARE IN AN EXTREMELY STRATEGIC LOCATION BECAUSE
11:18:40AM YOU LOOK AT THE BROADER DOWNTOWN TAMPA MAP, WE'RE SMACK IN
11:18:45AM THE CENTER.
11:18:46AM SO WE'RE CONNECTING DOWNTOWN TAMPA TO GASWORX, TO CENTRAL
11:18:51AM PARK TO YBOR TO CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:18:54AM IT'S REALLY A VERY STRATEGIC LOCATION.
11:18:56AM SO WE'RE VERY PRIVILEGED TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
11:19:01AM ACQUIRE THE LOT.
11:19:04AM FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT,
11:19:07AM THIS IS A PROJECT.
11:19:10AM IT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
11:19:12AM IT'S 360 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
11:19:16AM THE TOWER ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, 360 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
11:19:20AM 27 STORIES.
11:19:22AM 33,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.
11:19:25AM ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS A HOTEL COMPONENT AS WELL, 178.
11:19:31AM WE ACTUALLY REPLATTED THE LOT, SIMULTANEOUS WITH THE CLOSING
11:19:35AM OF THE TRANSACTION.
11:19:35AM THE HOTEL NOW IS IT'S OWN PROJECT AND MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL
11:19:40AM ARE ITS OWN PROJECT.
11:19:42AM FOR PURPOSES OF THIS, WE'RE JUST FOCUSING ON THE MULTIFAMILY
11:19:45AM AND THE RETAIL, WHICH IS THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE MOVING
11:19:49AM FORWARD WITH AND CHATTING ABOUT TODAY.
11:19:51AM HIGHLIGHT WE'RE ALREADY ENTITLED.
11:20:04AM WE'RE ENTITLED AS A MARKET RATE PROJECT.
11:20:07AM WE HAVE NO COVENANT REQUIREMENT FROM EITHER THE TAMPA
11:20:10AM HOUSING AUTHORITY OR ANY ZONING REQUIREMENT TO HAVE
11:20:15AM WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE BUILDING.
11:20:16AM WE CAN GO 100% AS MARKET RATE BUILDING.
11:20:21AM WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THIS AS A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT IN ORDER
11:20:26AM TO HELP WHAT WE THINK IS AN AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN
11:20:31AM DOWNTOWN.
11:20:32AM LITTLE MORE OVERVIEW ON THE PROJECT.
11:20:36AM THESE ARE RENDERINGS FROM CASS STREET.
11:20:39AM WE'RE ON CASS BETWEEN HANK BALLARD.
11:20:44AM SEPARATING THE HOTEL AND THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE
11:20:49AM SOUTH, WE'RE CREATING THIS VERY COOL PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY THAT
11:20:56AM WE'RE LINING UP WITH SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS.
11:20:59AM AND WE THINK THIS PART OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA REALLY COULD
11:21:03AM BENEFIT FROM ADDITIONAL FOOT TRAFFIC.
11:21:05AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING SUCH A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF RETAIL.
11:21:09AM WE HAVE 33,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.
11:21:11AM WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL AMENITY FOR BOTH THE
11:21:16AM PROJECT, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE
11:21:18AM BROADER DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
11:21:21AM RENDERINGS OF THE PROJECT.
11:21:24AM JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE
11:21:28AM PROJECT, WE ENGAGED A BRANDING FIRM OUT OF NEW YORK CALLED
11:21:32AM THE 7th ART.
11:21:33AM WE ASKED THEM TO LOOK INTO THE HISTORY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:21:35AM AND COME UP WITH A PROJECT BOTH ON THE BRANDING AS WELL AS
11:21:41AM INTERIOR DESIGN SIDE, REALLY SPEAK TO THE HISTORY OF THE
11:21:44AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:21:45AM THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES THEY CAME UP WITH TO INSPIRE
11:21:49AM THE INTERIOR DESIGN, LOOK AND FEEL WHICH IS UP ON THE SCREEN
11:21:52AM RIGHT NOW.
11:21:53AM ALSO, THE ARTWORK, IT'S ARTWORK THAT REPRESENTS THE HISTORY
11:21:58AM OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:22:00AM WE'RE WORKING WITH BLACK ARTISTS WHO REALLY TRY TO SHOWCASE
11:22:05AM SOME OF THE HISTORY AND THE NATURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:22:12AM THIS IS OUR LANDING WEBSITE THAT'S FOR THE PROJECT.
11:22:15AM THESE ARE THE SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING UP ON THE
11:22:20AM SITE NEXT WEEK.
11:22:23AM WE THINK OVERALL CREATED A VERY BEAUTIFUL PROJECT THAT
11:22:27AM ELEVATES THE COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO HONORING THE PAST.
11:22:32AM I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT TO VERY QUICKLY
11:22:36AM HIGHLIGHT SOME OF WHAT WE THINK ARE THE MAIN POINTS HERE.
11:22:39AM WE DO THINK THIS ALIGNS WITH THE CRAs VISION AND MISSION.
11:22:44AM $200 MILLION PROJECT.
11:22:45AM JUST THE MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL COMPONENT OF IT.
11:22:49AM THE HOTEL IS ANOTHER $50 MILLION.
11:22:52AM IN TOTAL, $250 MILLION INVESTMENT INTO DOWNTOWN.
11:22:55AM IN TERMS OF JOBS, SO SKIPPING TO POINT NUMBER 3, WE ARE
11:23:00AM CREATING 80 LONG-TERM PERMANENT JOBS.
11:23:04AM ON TOP OF THAT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, ABOUT ANOTHER 150
11:23:08AM JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED.
11:23:09AM WITHOUT A DOUBT, A VERY IMPACTFUL PROJECT.
11:23:14AM JUST CUTTING TO THE HEART OF THE PRESENTATION, LIKE ERICA
11:23:19AM MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CRA STAFF FOR ALMOST A
11:23:22AM YEAR NOW GOING BACK AND FORTH TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE
11:23:26AM COULD VOLUNTARILY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT SPEAKS TO
11:23:30AM WHAT WE THINK DOWNTOWN TAMPA NEEDS.
11:23:33AM THE CRA WE THINK IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND THAT IN WHICH
11:23:37AM WE CAN PROCEED WITH A PROJECT.
11:23:43AM WE'RE GIVING DOWNTOWN WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT IT DESPERATELY
11:23:47AM NEEDS BUT AT THE SAME TIME OFFSETTING SOME OF THE LOSSES
11:23:50AM THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BY RENT RESTRICTING SOME OF THE
11:23:54AM UNITS AT DIFFERENT AMIs.
11:23:56AM THE TABLE YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE CAME
11:24:01AM UP WITH AFTER MEETING WITH BOTH THE DOWNTOWN CAC A COUPLE OF
11:24:06AM TIMES AS WELL AS THE CENTRAL PARK CAC A COUPLE OF TIMES AS
11:24:09AM WELL AS HAVING GONE THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS WITH THE CRA
11:24:14AM STAFF.
11:24:14AM WE'RE OFFERING TO RENT RESTRICT 11% OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS
11:24:19AM 40 UNITS AT AMIs RANGING FROM 80 TO 140% OF AMI.
11:24:24AM FOR THE ENTIRE LIFE OF THE CRA, WHICH IS THROUGH 2043.
11:24:31AM IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO OFFSET
11:24:37AM THE LOSSES THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE WOULD INCUR BY RENT
11:24:41AM RESTRICTING THESE UNITS RELATIVE TO THE MARKET RENTS THAT WE
11:24:44AM WOULD CHARGE.
11:24:45AM WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A SUBSIDY.
11:24:47AM WE'RE ACTUALLY EVEN TAKING A SMALL LOSS ON THIS.
11:24:50AM ALL WE'RE LOOKING IS TO BE MADE WHOLE SO THAT FOR US WE CAN
11:24:54AM STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROJECT AND TO OUR INVESTORS AS
11:25:02AM WELL AS OUR LENDERS.
11:25:04AM WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A SUBSIDY.
11:25:05AM THIS IS A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT.
11:25:07AM JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF -- I'LL GET INTO HOW WE
11:25:13AM CALCULATE WHAT WE'RE ASKING IN RETURN FROM THE CRA, WHICH IS
11:25:16AM 50% OF THE TIF PLUS $7.5 MILLION GRANT.
11:25:21AM JUST TO SHOW WHAT THESE DIFFERENT AMI RENTS ACTUALLY
11:25:27AM REPRESENT.
11:25:28AM HERE ON THE SCREEN, ON THE TOP TABLE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE
11:25:33AM MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RENTS ARE FOR VARYING AMIs, FROM 80 TO
11:25:38AM 140% OF AMI, STUDIOS, ONE BEDROOMS AND TWO BEDROOMS AS WELL
11:25:44AM AS THE MARKET RENT.
11:25:46AM MARKET RENTS IN DOWNTOWN WHICH WE'VE BEEN SHOCKED BECAUSE
11:25:49AM SOME OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN
11:25:51AM SEEING IN MIAMI.
11:25:52AM STUDIOS ARE NOW IN DOWNTOWN GOING FOR $2500 A MONTH.
11:25:56AM ONE BEDROOMS ARE GOING FOR $3,000 A MONTH.
11:25:59AM TWO BEDROOMS FOR $4400 A MONTH.
11:26:03AM THE HERON, ON WATER STREET, HAS THE HIGHEST RENT IN ALL OF
11:26:08AM FLORIDA.
11:26:09AM IT'S REMARKABLE HOW EXPENSIVE SOME OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA HAS
11:26:14AM BECOME.
11:26:16AM AT THESE DIFFERENT AMIs, YOU SEE A TO WHERE THE MARKET IS.
11:26:21AM EVEN AT 140% OF AMI, ON THE STUDIOS, WE'RE CAPPING AT $2,000
11:26:27AM PER UNIT PER MONTH.
11:26:29AM ONE BEDROOMS $2100.
11:26:31AM TWO BEDROOMS, $2500.
11:26:33AM WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO 80% OF AMI, YOU'RE AT 1150 FOR STUDIOS
11:26:39AM GOING UP ALL THE WAY TO ALMOST $1500 FOR A TWO BEDROOM.
11:26:44AM EVEN AT 140% OF AMI, I WANT TO SHOW ON STUDIOS WE'RE ALREADY
11:26:50AM REDUCING THE RENTS THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE CHARGE BY $500.
11:26:55AM TWO BEDROOMS REDUCING THE RENTS WE WOULD ALREADY CHARGE BY
11:26:58AM $1800.
11:27:00AM AT 80% OF AMI WE'RE REDUCING THE RENTS BY 1350 ON THE
11:27:05AM STUDIOS AND ALMOST $3,000 ON THE TWO BEDROOMS.
11:27:08AM IT IS A VERY MEANINGFUL DISCOUNT.
11:27:09AM I KNOW THAT THERE IS A PUSH IN THE CRA TO JUST REALLY FOCUS
11:27:14AM ON THE 80% OF AMI UNITS.
11:27:16AM BUT EVEN AT 140% OF AMI, WE THINK THIS IS ATTAINABLE HOUSING
11:27:22AM THAT IT'S CURRENTLY NOT REALLY AVAILABLE IN DOWNTOWN.
11:27:25AM WHEN YOU TRANSLATE TO WHAT INCOMES PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY
11:27:29AM NEED TO MAKE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT
11:27:33AM AMIs, AT 80% OF AMI FOR A ONE BEDROOM, INCOME OF $48,000.
11:27:41AM EVEN AT 140% OF AMI, IT'S $85,000.
11:27:47AM AND WHEN YOU GO UP TO, DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
11:27:51AM LIVING IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
11:27:53AM THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME, OBVIOUSLY.
11:27:55AM SO EVEN AT 140% OF AMI, IF YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE LIVING IN A
11:27:59AM HOUSEHOLD THAT'S $97,000, WHICH THOSE PEOPLE CURRENTLY
11:28:03AM CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN.
11:28:07AM JUST GOING BACK TO HOW WE TRY TO THINK THROUGH THIS FROM OUR
11:28:12AM END, WHICH IS THE SAME WAY WE WORK THROUGH IT WITH OTHER
11:28:16AM CRAs.
11:28:17AM WE PROJECT OUT WHAT WE'RE LEAVING ON THE TABLE FOR EVERY
11:28:21AM UNIT THAT WE'RE RENT RESTRICTING FOR THE ENTIRE LIFE OF THE
11:28:25AM RENT RESTRICTION, WHICH IS THROUGH 2043, ACROSS THE 40
11:28:30AM UNITS.
11:28:30AM THAT TRANSLATES TO A LOSS OF $15 MILLION APPROXIMATELY.
11:28:39AM THAT WE'RE ASKING, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CRA
11:28:42AM AND WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFSET THAT BY 50% OF THE TIF THAT THE
11:28:48AM PROJECT IS GOING TO GENERATE, APPROXIMATELY AMOUNTS TO HALF
11:28:51AM OF THAT, 7, WHEN YOU ADD THE DOWNTOWN PLUS CENTRAL PARK,
11:28:56AM ABOUT $7.3 MILLION.
11:28:58AM AND THEN THE GRANT OF $7.5 MILLION UP FRONT, WHICH WOULD
11:29:03AM OFFSET THE OTHER HALF.
11:29:06AM SO AGAIN, THIS IS ALL REALLY -- THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO
11:29:10AM GENERATE A TIF FOR THE CRA OF $15 MILLION.
11:29:14AM IT'S REALLY -- IT IS -- IT'S NOT COSTING THE CRA ANYTHING.
11:29:19AM OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, THE $15 MILLION ARE BEING
11:29:22AM GENERATED BY THE INCREMENTAL PROPERTY TAXES THAT THE
11:29:26AM DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GENERATE.
11:29:28AM TO US, WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING A SMALL LOSS.
11:29:32AM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PROFIT FROM THIS.
11:29:34AM WE THINK THERE IS A BENEFIT FOR THE CRA, DOWNTOWN TAMPA, AS
11:29:38AM WELL AS FOR THE LONG-TERM NATURE OF THE PROJECT TO CREATE A
11:29:45AM MIXED INCOME COMMUNITY WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM BOTH FROM
11:29:51AM DOWN TO 80% OF AMI TO 140% OF AMI TO JUST REGULAR MARKET
11:29:56AM RATE LIVING ALTOGETHER IN A BUILDING.
11:29:57AM AGAIN, THE UNITS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SAME AMENITIES, SAME
11:30:04AM FINISHES, NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RENT RESTRICTED UNIT OR
11:30:08AM A REGULAR MARKET RATE UNIT.
11:30:10AM I THINK WE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING.
11:30:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: READY FOR SOME QUESTIONS?
11:30:18AM >> HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:30:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN MANISCALCO
11:30:20AM AND THEN CLENDENIN.
11:30:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:30:24AM AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.
11:30:27AM WE HAD A PRE-PRESENTATION.
11:30:31AM I DID ASK IF THERE WAS A WAY, SINCE YOU KNOW OUR MANDATE IS
11:30:34AM 80% AND BELOW, IF YOU COULD GIVE SOME NUMBERS ON HOW MANY
11:30:39AM UNITS WE COULD GET FOR STUDIOS AND ONES.
11:30:48AM WE COULD GET 25 UNITS, OH, INCLUDING TWO BEDROOMS.
11:30:51AM OKAY.
11:30:52AM >> REDUCE IT TO BEDROOMS, PROBABLY INCREASE THAT FURTHER.
11:30:56AM BECAUSE TWO BEDROOMS ARE THE MOST COSTLY.
11:30:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, YES.
11:31:00AM I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE STUDIOS AND ONE BEDROOMS,
11:31:03AM BUT TWO BEDROOMS AS WELL.
11:31:05AM SO 25 INSTEAD OF 40 IS WHAT THAT WOULD GET US.
11:31:11AM >> RIGHT.
11:31:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS, AND WANT TO SAY
11:31:26AM NICELY, I HAD NOT SEEN YOUR DESIGN PLANS.
11:31:30AM DO YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD?
11:31:31AM THIS WAS A VERY POOR -- YEAH, THE SCRUB.
11:31:37AM IT WAS WHERE AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE FORCED TO LIVE.
11:31:45AM I'LL JUST BE HONEST, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO --
11:31:49AM THIS IS NO LONGER A POOR COMMUNITY, SO WE ARE GENTRIFYING.
11:31:53AM I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DESIGN CONCEPT WILL GO OVER.
11:31:59AM IT DID NOT GO OVER WELL WITH ME.
11:32:01AM IT SEEMS INAPPROPRIATE FOR BASICALLY -- THIS IS A
11:32:06AM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'RE GENTRIFYING, REGARDLESS OF HOW IT'S
11:32:11AM LOOKED.
11:32:11AM I WAS A LITTLE PUT OFF BY THAT, I'LL SAY.
11:32:15AM BUT MY QUESTIONS ARE WHAT HAPPENS IF RENTS GO DOWN?
11:32:18AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A POSSIBLE RECESSION.
11:32:21AM WHAT IF THOSE $4400 UNITS DON'T HAPPEN?
11:32:29AM >> AMI RENTS GO DOWN AS WELL.
11:32:31AM AMI RENTS ARE BASED ON THE AVERAGE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
11:32:35AM THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S PROPORTIONATE.
11:32:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY WE GIVE YOU THEN?
11:32:40AM >> SAME THING.
11:32:41AM THE UNITS, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RENT THAT WE CAN CHARGE ON
11:32:48AM THOSE RENT RESTRICTED UNITS WILL GO DOWN PROPORTIONATELY.
11:32:53AM SO NOW PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THOSE UNITS, EVEN PAYING
11:32:58AM LESS IN RENT.
11:33:00AM SO THE MONEY IS STILL GOING TO OFFSETTING RENT LOSSES AND
11:33:07AM MAKING THE UNITS MORE AFFORDABLE.
11:33:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:33:10AM THIS IS A QUESTION I THINK FOR STAFF.
11:33:11AM WHOSE JOB IS IT TO FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE UNITS
11:33:17AM ARE WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE?
11:33:18AM AND THAT THEY ARE KEPT AS BEING AFFORDABLE EVERY YEAR FOR
11:33:23AM THE NEXT 20 YEARS?
11:33:25AM I DON'T KNOW IF MS. MOODY CAN SPEAK TO THAT PROCESS OR MR.
11:33:29AM DRUMGO.
11:33:30AM WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE
11:33:35AM AFFORDABLE UNITS OTHER THAN JUST A CONTRACT?
11:33:39AM >>ERICA MOODY: ABSOLUTELY.
11:33:40AM ALL THAT IS TIED TO THEIR SUBMITTAL FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
11:33:44AM SO WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT, WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE
11:33:47AM NUMBERS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY PAID THEIR TAXES, LOOK AT THE
11:33:50AM AVERAGE MARKET RATES, LOOK AT THE AMIs, AND WE ADJUST THE
11:33:54AM NUMBERS ACCORDING TO THE MARKET.
11:33:56AM THAT IS DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND THEY DO NOT RECEIVE
11:33:59AM PAYMENT UNTIL ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN CHECKED AND MEASURED
11:34:01AM AGAINST.
11:34:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION.
11:34:03AM MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THOSE 20 UNITS -- THIS IS
11:34:06AM NOT JUST FOR THEM BUT OVERALL.
11:34:08AM I'M CURIOUS, WHEN WE SUBSIDIZE UNITS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE
11:34:12AM THAT THEY ARE SUBSIDIZED FOR 20 YEARS?
11:34:15AM MR. MASSEY.
11:34:15AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THE WAY WE HANDLE IT THROUGH OUR
11:34:18AM HOUSING DEPARTMENT, WE PROBABLY WOULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR
11:34:21AM HERE, IS THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE A RECORDATION OF A
11:34:25AM RESTRICTIVE COVENANT REQUIRING THAT A MINIMUM OF 20, 25, 40,
11:34:30AM WHATEVER THE UNITS ARE MEET CERTAIN INCOME ELIGIBILITY
11:34:34AM LEVELS AND THEN ALLOW US TO CHECK THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:34:38AM THEY ARE COMPLIANT.
11:34:39AM OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT DOES THAT FOR THE ONES FOR WHICH WE
11:34:43AM ARE USING SOME CRA DOLLARS FOR ALREADY THROUGH OWNER
11:34:48AM OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAMS OR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS
11:34:51AM OR THROUGH THE CDBG OR THE HUD-FINANCED TYPE OF PROGRAMS.
11:34:58AM WE WOULD REQUIRE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS BE PLACED ON THE
11:35:02AM PROPERTY.
11:35:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S JOB TO
11:35:05AM CHECK YEARLY TO MAKE SURE THE UNITS.
11:35:06AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: RIGHT.
11:35:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON I ASK, THIS IS THE BEGINNING
11:35:11AM FOR US AND HOW WE DO THIS GOING FORWARD.
11:35:13AM I'M CURIOUS.
11:35:14AM I'VE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT.
11:35:16AM MR. DRUMGO, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE TO ADD TO THAT?
11:35:19AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I DO.
11:35:20AM GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
11:35:21AM FOR THE RECORD, ALIS DRUMGO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATIVE FOR
11:35:23AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:35:25AM I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT ATTORNEY MASSEY IS SAYING.
11:35:29AM I THINK THAT THE MONITORING PIECE IS SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY
11:35:32AM HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE AS CRA.
11:35:33AM WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE THROUGH HCD.
11:35:36AM I DO THINK THAT AS THIS BOARD CONTINUES TO ENGAGE IN THESE
11:35:39AM TYPES OF PROCESSES THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE
11:35:41AM ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT MAY NEED TO BE ADDED TO SUPPORT THE
11:35:45AM HCD STAFF AS THEY MONITOR THAT PROCESS.
11:35:48AM BUT COMPLIANCE IS A HUGE PART OF WHAT WE DO.
11:35:51AM IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD JUST BE ADDED COMPLIANCE FOR US
11:35:54AM THROUGH HCD.
11:35:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:35:56AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:35:57AM >> FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN OTHER
11:36:00AM MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL.
11:36:01AM WE ENTER INTO A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT RUNS WITH THE
11:36:04AM LAND.
11:36:04AM IF WE WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY AT SOME POINT, THE NEXT
11:36:07AM OWNER WOULD ALSO BE ENCUMBERED BY THAT.
11:36:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:36:12AM >> JUST TO ADD TO THAT, ALSO, OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS, THEY
11:36:16AM DILIGENTLY RESEARCH THE POTENTIAL TENANT.
11:36:17AM A LOT OF THE UPFRONT WORK IS DONE ON OUR SIDE SO WE CAN
11:36:20AM PROVIDE A CLEAN REPORT TO THE CITY.
11:36:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:36:23AM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:36:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:36:25AM WHAT IS ON THIS PARCEL RIGHT NOW?
11:36:27AM IS IT JUST AN EMPTY LOT?
11:36:30AM OKAY.
11:36:31AM I HEARD THE WORD GENTRIFICATION, AND I BROUGHT IT UP IN
11:36:34AM DISCUSSIONS YESTERDAY, HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE WORD
11:36:37AM GENTRIFICATION.
11:36:38AM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORICALLY, AND I'VE TALKED TO POLITICAL
11:36:44AM LEADERS FROM BACK IN THE DAY, WHEN I SAY BACK IN THE DAY,
11:36:47AM FROM 50 YEARS AGO, FAMILY MEMBERS, DESCENDANTS OF BUSINESS
11:36:52AM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM BACK IN THE DAY, GOING BACK 50
11:36:56AM YEARS AGO.
11:36:56AM THE LAST BUSINESS, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY ON CENTRAL
11:36:58AM AVENUE, CLOSED IN 1974, THE COTTON CLUB.
11:37:02AM AFTER THE RISE OF 1967, ONE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER AND BUSINESS
11:37:08AM OWNER WHOSE GRANDSON I'VE SPOKEN TO AND ALLEGEDLY ON RECORD
11:37:12AM SAID YOU'VE GOT TO TEAR DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE.
11:37:16AM POST 1967 AND THAT THROUGH URBAN RENEWAL AND THE INTERSTATE,
11:37:19AM WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, WHICH WAS BLOCKS AWAY,
11:37:23AM ERASED THIS COMMUNITY.
11:37:25AM I KNOW THAT THERE WAS PUBLIC HOUSING ON THE PARCEL.
11:37:29AM I REMEMBER DRIVING UP AND DOWN NEBRASKA.
11:37:31AM THAT'S ALL GONE.
11:37:32AM BUT I TAKE ISSUE WITH GENTRIFICATION BECAUSE I WISH I COULD
11:37:39AM GO BACK 50 YEARS.
11:37:41AM I SAID IF I COULD GO BACK, IF I WERE A LEADER THEN, I WOULD
11:37:45AM HAVE PROHIBITED DEMOLISHING THE AREA BECAUSE IT WAS SO
11:37:49AM HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT, LIKE YBOR CITY, NOT TOO FAR AWAY,
11:37:52AM WHERE WE HAVE OUR MAIN STREET AND EVERYTHING.
11:37:54AM BUT I CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME.
11:37:56AM HOWEVER, LOOKING FORWARD AS A LEADER SITTING HERE NOW, HOW
11:38:00AM CAN WE INVEST INTO THESE PROJECTS?
11:38:01AM THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CRA IS TO REINVEST IN THE BLIGHTED
11:38:04AM AREA.
11:38:05AM I WOULDN'T CONSIDER THIS A BLIGHTED AREA.
11:38:07AM I WOULD CONSIDER IT AN IMPORTANT AND SPECIAL AREA, AND
11:38:10AM YOU'RE INVESTING -- I SEE THE TOTAL INVESTMENT AMOUNT OR
11:38:13AM TOTAL PROJECT AMOUNT $200 MILLION.
11:38:15AM I SEE THE 7.5 MILLION CRA CONTRIBUTION AND THE TIF REBATE
11:38:22AM AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S NOT GENERATING ANYTHING NOW AS AN
11:38:25AM EMPTY PARCEL.
11:38:27AM I WISH I COULD GO BACK 50 YEARS AND PREVENT THAT AREA FROM
11:38:31AM BEING DEMOLISHED AND MAKE IT A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
11:38:34AM DISTRICT.
11:38:34AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE IF I COULD, BUT I CAN'T.
11:38:37AM HOWEVER, THE PROJECT IS BEAUTIFUL.
11:38:41AM I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT I LOVE AND I STUDY ARCHITECTURE.
11:38:44AM I THINK IT'S VERY WELL DONE.
11:38:45AM IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE.
11:38:46AM IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT IT'S VERY WELL DONE AS A MIXED USE
11:38:49AM PROJECT AT MARKET RATE AND ALSO REGARDING THE WORKFORCE
11:38:55AM HOUSING SITUATION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 UNITS, A 20-YEAR
11:39:01AM COMMITMENT, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE 2043 IS THE SUNSET.
11:39:04AM THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU TURN AROUND AND
11:39:07AM FLIP IT TOMORROW AND GO BACK TO MIAMI AND DO OTHER AND SAY
11:39:10AM WE TRIED IN TAMPA, WE'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:39:12AM DEVELOPERS COME AND GO.
11:39:13AM I HOPE AND THINK THAT YOU WOULD STAY COMMITTED BUT THE
11:39:17AM COVENANTS, THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE RULES WOULD STAY IN
11:39:20AM PLACE, SO WE WOULD HAVE CONTROL AS WHOEVER WE PARTNER WITH,
11:39:24AM WHETHER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR US, REGARDING THOSE UNITS.
11:39:29AM I LIKE THAT YOU GO FROM STUDIO, WHICH YOU HAVE SINGLE
11:39:33AM INDIVIDUALS, PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUNG, WHATEVER, HAVING THE
11:39:36AM OPPORTUNITY, ONE BEDROOM AND THEN TWO BEDROOM.
11:39:38AM MY FAMILY AND I LIVE IN A TWO BEDROOM.
11:39:41AM WE HAVE BUNK BEDS FOR THE TWO GIRLS IN THAT TWO BEDROOM AND
11:39:44AM MY WIFE AND I STAY IN THE OTHER.
11:39:46AM YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME FAMILIES.
11:39:48AM WE NEED 10,000 UNITS, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS IN AFFORDABLE
11:39:51AM HOUSING, THIS IS ONE PROJECT CONTRIBUTING THAT NUMBER 40.
11:39:56AM I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY, WELL, WE TAKE A LOSS.
11:39:59AM WHATEVER.
11:40:00AM I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE HERE TO MAKE MONEY, BUT THE QUESTION IS,
11:40:03AM IS IT A GOOD PROJECT.
11:40:05AM IS IT A WORTHY INVESTMENT OF OUR CRA DOLLARS?
11:40:07AM I SEE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK IN TAXABLE REVENUE
11:40:12AM THAT'S NOT THERE, NUMBER ONE.
11:40:13AM THE TOTAL PROJECT AMOUNT, WE CAN SAY AS IT SHOWS HERE, A
11:40:17AM $200 MILLION INVESTMENT IN A HISTORIC AREA.
11:40:20AM YOU ARE OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITY -- AND I'LL FINISH HERE --
11:40:26AM WHERE 40 UNITS, SOME FAMILIES AND SINGLE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE
11:40:31AM WITH ROOMMATES WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE BACK HERE.
11:40:34AM AGAIN, THIS IS LOT 10.
11:40:37AM THIS IS ONE OF SEVERAL PARCELS, AS PART OF A GREATER ENCORE,
11:40:43AM SLASH, CENTRAL PARK PROJECT, I THINK IT'S GOOD.
11:40:45AM I LIKE TO LOOK AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
11:40:47AM A SMALL AMOUNT WILL COME BACK TO US NOT JUST FOR THE 20
11:40:51AM YEARS OF THE CRA BUT IT WILL GO BACK INTO THE COFFERS OF THE
11:40:55AM GENERAL FUND ONCE THE CRA EXPIRES OR BACK INTO THE CRA.
11:41:00AM WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT INVESTMENT BACK.
11:41:01AM IT'S ESSENTIALLY A LOAN THAT WILL PAY BACK TREMENDOUS
11:41:05AM DIVIDENDS.
11:41:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:07AM I'LL STOP THERE.
11:41:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FOLLOWED BY BOARD
11:41:10AM MEMBER CARLSON.
11:41:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NORMALLY I'M ALL ABOUT, AGAIN, PROVIDING
11:41:14AM SEED MONEY, ESPECIALLY IF IT HAS A RETURN OF INVESTMENT FROM
11:41:17AM THE TAXPAYERS.
11:41:18AM BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE COST PER UNIT HERE.
11:41:21AM AM I DOING THE MATH CORRECTLY?
11:41:23AM IF WE ARE DOING 25 UNITS, IT'S NEARLY $600,000 A UNIT IN
11:41:28AM SUBSIDY?
11:41:28AM 500.
11:41:29AM BUT I'M SAYING WITH THE OTHER PROPOSAL OF GOING DOWN TO THE
11:41:33AM OTHER MULTIPLE 25.
11:41:35AM 592,000, NEARLY 600,000 PER UNIT.
11:41:39AM 40 UNITS, IT'S 370,000 A UNIT.
11:41:43AM >> THE ISSUE WITH THOSE UNITS AT 80% OF AMI ESPECIALLY IS
11:41:46AM THEY LOSE MONEY ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
11:41:48AM IT'S NOT REALLY --
11:41:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE MAKING MONEY ON THE OTHER HOW MANY
11:41:52AM UNITS YOU BUILD, 360 UNITS.
11:41:55AM SO YOU'RE ONLY 40 OF THEM OR MAYBE EVEN 25, BUT STILL GOING
11:41:59AM TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ON THE OTHER 360.
11:42:04AM 50% OF THE TIF, THAT MEANS OVER THE LIFE OF THE CRA THAT
11:42:09AM YOU'RE GETTING, WE'RE STILL PROVIDING CITY SERVICES.
11:42:12AM SO SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR THE CITY SERVICES FOR THE PEOPLE
11:42:14AM THAT ARE LIVING IN THIS.
11:42:15AM THAT IS A HUGE SUBSIDY YOU'RE ASKING OTHER TAXPAYERS TO PAY.
11:42:20AM I'M JUST WONDERING MAYBE FROM CRA STAFF, IS THERE A BETTER
11:42:24AM USE OF THAT MONEY OF NEARLY $15 MILLION IN RETURN IN
11:42:28AM INVESTMENT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE ARMY NAVY STORE, IF WE
11:42:31AM WERE TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND INVEST IT THERE, CAN WE GET A
11:42:34AM HIGHER RATE OF RETURN AND PROVIDE MORE SERVICES AND MORE
11:42:37AM UNITS.
11:42:38AM WE HAVE UNLIMITED CAPABILITY OF BUILDING ON THIS PIECE OF
11:42:41AM PROPERTY, IF WE TOOK THE $15 MILLION AND INVESTED THERE, HOW
11:42:44AM MUCH GOOD ARE WE DOING?
11:42:46AM I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE ENTITLED TO BUILD ON THIS PROPERTY.
11:42:51AM I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
11:42:53AM WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THERE IS SPECTACULAR.
11:42:55AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:42:58AM WHAT'S LOST IS LOST.
11:42:59AM WE CAN'T GO BACK.
11:43:00AM IT IS A REARVIEW MIRROR TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS THERE 50
11:43:04AM YEARS AGO VERSUS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY AND IT IS AN EMPTY
11:43:07AM PIECE OF PROPERTY.
11:43:08AM I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEE THIS PROJECT THROUGH
11:43:11AM COMPLETION.
11:43:11AM I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME ASKING TAXPAYERS, AGAIN, FOR THE
11:43:14AM RATE OF RETURN OF 40 UNITS OF $370,000 PER UNIT OF 25 UNITS
11:43:19AM OF NEARLY $600,000 PER UNIT, MY GOSH, LOOK AT THE DOWN
11:43:24AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WE COULD PROVIDE WITH THAT TYPE OF
11:43:26AM CAPITAL.
11:43:26AM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
11:43:28AM THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO ASK PER UNIT.
11:43:32AM >> WE UNDERSTAND, LIKE MENTIONED, THE UNITS ACTUALLY LOSE
11:43:37AM MONEY AT THE LOWER AMI.
11:43:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT YOU'RE MAKING MONEY ON THE OTHER UNITS
11:43:41AM THAT YOU'RE BUILDING.
11:43:43AM THE HOTEL.
11:43:44AM IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
11:43:45AM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
11:43:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON FOLLOWED BY --
11:43:52AM >> I APOLOGIZE, CHAIRWOMAN.
11:43:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO PROBLEM.
11:43:55AM >> THE BOARD MEMBER DID ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF.
11:43:58AM I WANTED TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT.
11:44:00AM I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INITIAL INVESTMENT AND NOT
11:44:04AM ADVOCATING, I JUST WANT TO ADD A POINT OF CLARITY.
11:44:07AM I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DOLLAR VALUE BEING PUT BEFORE
11:44:11AM YOU TODAY, WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING AT IS A LOSS OVER
11:44:14AM TIME.
11:44:14AM THIS IS A LOCK-IN 20-YEAR COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE THAT
11:44:18AM AFFORDABILITY.
11:44:19AM THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE GAP BETWEEN THE MARKET AND WHAT IT
11:44:22AM COSTS TO PROVIDE THAT AFFORDABLE UNIT.
11:44:24AM AND THAT DOESN'T END IN YEAR ONE.
11:44:26AM THAT INITIAL VALUE PER UNIT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 40 UNITS,
11:44:29AM I THINK YOU SAID $370,000, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, OVER
11:44:33AM A 20-YEAR PERIOD IS WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO RECOUP THE
11:44:36AM DOLLARS.
11:44:37AM IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY THE 20 YEARS, THEN YOU GET INTO A
11:44:39AM SUBSIDY OF ABOUT $18,750 PER UNIT PER YEAR.
11:44:43AM IF YOU FURTHER BREAK THAT DOWN BY MONTH, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING
11:44:48AM AT ABOUT $1500 A MONTH.
11:44:49AM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE RENTS ARE THAT ARE IN THE
11:44:52AM PROPOSAL THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROVIDING, YOU LOOK AT THE
11:44:54AM GAP BETWEEN THAT MARKET AND WHAT THAT SUBSIDY IS FILLING, SO
11:44:58AM YOU'RE DOING THAT IN DAYS DOLLARS DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE
11:45:01AM RENTS WILL POTENTIALLY CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER TIME AS
11:45:05AM WELL.
11:45:06AM SO THE DEVELOPER IS RUNNING A RISK THAT THAT GAP WILL
11:45:09AM CONTINUE TO EXIST LONG TERM WHICH IS WHY HE KEEPS SAYING
11:45:13AM WE'RE GOING TO LOSE MONEY.
11:45:14AM AS YOU KNOW, TOO, THE DEPRECIATION OF THE DOLLAR OVER TIME
11:45:18AM IS A REAL THING.
11:45:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, SIR, AT THAT LEVEL OF FUNDING, WHAT
11:45:25AM -- CLEARLY THIS WILL BE A LUXURIOUS BUILDING.
11:45:28AM IT WILL BE SPECTACULAR.
11:45:29AM WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THAT EQUIVALENT MONEY IN OTHER PARCELS
11:45:33AM AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS OF PROVIDING THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF
11:45:36AM GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE?
11:45:38AM YEAH, EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE AT THE EDISON.
11:45:47AM SORRY --
11:45:50AM WHAT IS THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT
11:45:51AM OF PEOPLE.
11:45:52AM FOR ME, THIS IS JUST ASKING TOO MUCH OF TAXPAYERS TO
11:45:57AM SUBSIDIZE PER UNIT IN A LUXURY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
11:46:02AM ENTITLEMENT, I FULLY ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S TOO
11:46:06AM MUCH.
11:46:07AM IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR.
11:46:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
11:46:10AM MIRANDA AND THEN MAYBE ME.
11:46:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:46:15AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
11:46:19AM NUMBER ONE, WE KNOW CLEARLY FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THE
11:46:22AM COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT US TO USE MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE REAL
11:46:26AM ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
11:46:27AM THERE ARE TOO MANY OTHER PRIORITIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
11:46:29AM ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT US TO USE THE MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE.
11:46:32AM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT US TO DO IT.
11:46:35AM WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WHERE BIG SUBSIDIES GIVEN TO ONE
11:46:37AM DEVELOPER AND NOT TO ANOTHER.
11:46:39AM IF YOU BELIEVE IN FREE MARKET OR CAPITALISM AT ALL, YOU
11:46:42AM SHOULD BE AGAINST SUBSIDIES BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR THAT ONE
11:46:44AM GETS IT AND ANOTHER DOESN'T.
11:46:46AM WE'VE SEEN IN THOSE INSTANCES USUALLY BOTH GO OUT OF
11:46:49AM BUSINESS OR MULTIPLE PEOPLE GET HURT.
11:46:52AM I THINK THERE'S A MARKET SITUATION HERE WHERE WE NEED TO
11:46:57AM MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPMENT.
11:46:59AM SO WHATEVER THEIR EARNINGS OR LOSS IS, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER
11:47:03AM TO US AT ALL BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO PAY
11:47:06AM ATTENTION TO IT.
11:47:07AM IF WE'RE SUBSIDIZING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING,
11:47:10AM THE PUBLIC TO A CERTAIN EXTENT DOES WANT US TO SUBSIDIZE IT.
11:47:14AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A STANDARD FOR DOING IT.
11:47:16AM THE QUESTION, THE FORMULA YOU WENT THROUGH IS THE SAME ONE I
11:47:19AM DID, DEPENDING ON WHICH NUMBER WE USE, 350, 370, 500
11:47:24AM THOUSAND PER UNIT, IT'S AN ABSURD AMOUNT OF MONEY.
11:47:30AM FOR 50,000 A UNIT, WE COULD HELP PEOPLE BUY SINGLE-FAMILY
11:47:33AM HOMES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
11:47:34AM WE NEED 50,000 UNITS AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE WORST HOME
11:47:39AM OWNERSHIP RATES IN THE STATE.
11:47:40AM WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE HOME OWNERSHIP RATE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:47:43AM THIS IS SUBSIDIZING TEMPORARILY AFFECTING AN ISSUE INSTEAD
11:47:48AM OF HELPING PEOPLE BUILD MULTIGENERATIONAL WEALTH THAT WAS
11:47:51AM SPOKEN ABOUT EARLIER.
11:47:52AM IT'S ALSO FOR 20 YEARS.
11:47:54AM WE'VE BEEN CRITICIZED BECAUSE ADVOCATES DON'T WANT US TO GO
11:47:57AM 30 YEARS.
11:47:58AM NOW THIS IS 20 YEARS WHICH IS EVEN LESS.
11:48:00AM ALSO, IT'S A PERCENTAGE, NOT A FLAT AMOUNT.
11:48:02AM AND SO I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE CHANCE OF GIVING A FLAT
11:48:06AM AMOUNT INSTEAD OF PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE UPSIDE
11:48:08AM POTENTIAL FOR US THERE.
11:48:09AM BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:48:12AM WE NEED A STANDARD.
11:48:13AM THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING WE HAVE AN ITEM COMING UP I
11:48:16AM THINK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WE NEED TO HAVE AN RFP INSTEAD
11:48:19AM OF JUST RESPONDING TO THE REQUESTS.
11:48:21AM WE NEED TO SAY IN EACH PART OF THE TOWN, HERE IS HOW MUCH
11:48:24AM WE'RE WILLING TO PUT IN PER UNIT FOR SOMEBODY TO BUY OR
11:48:26AM SOMEBODY TO RENT AND FOR WHAT PERIOD OF TIME AND LET PEOPLE
11:48:29AM BID ON IT AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN GET.
11:48:32AM BUT WE CAN'T JUST HAPHAZARDLY RESPOND TO THESE THINGS.
11:48:35AM THE OTHER QUESTION, WHAT IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DOING?
11:48:37AM I WAS THERE WHEN THIS ENCORE PROJECT WAS ANNOUNCED RIBBON
11:48:41AM CUTTING LIKE 20 YEARS AGO.
11:48:43AM WHY ISN'T IT BUILT OUT BY NOW?
11:48:45AM WHY ISN'T THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SUBSIDIZING THIS?
11:48:47AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A RETURN ON THIS LIKE BOARD MEMBER
11:48:53AM CLENDENIN SAID, BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING HALF THE AD VALOREM TAX
11:48:57AM BACK.
11:48:58AM WE NEED TO -- IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A DEAL, WE NEED TO
11:49:02AM STRUCTURE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND SAID AMOUNT.
11:49:05AM WE SHOULD HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD SUBSIDIZE FOR
11:49:07AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN AND LET IT BE OPEN TO THE
11:49:09AM PRIVATE SECTOR TO BID AND SEE HOW MANY UNITS WE CAN GET.
11:49:13AM MY OTHER CONCERN IS TRANSPARENCY.
11:49:16AM IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU GOT A BRIEFING ON IT.
11:49:19AM LAST NIGHT WHEN I REVIEWED THE AGENDA WAS THE FIRST TIME I
11:49:22AM SAW THIS.
11:49:23AM I HEARD ABOUT IT BUT HAVEN'T HAD A PRESENTATION.
11:49:25AM THE PUBLIC, MOST IMPORTANTLY, HAS NOT SEEN THIS UNTIL JUST
11:49:28AM NOW.
11:49:28AM WHY WOULD WE VOTE ON 14, 15, WHATEVER MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT
11:49:34AM THAT THE PUBLIC JUST LEARNED ABOUT?
11:49:35AM THIS IS ENORMOUS.
11:49:36AM REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET, $4.1 MILLION
11:49:40AM A YEAR FOR ROAD REPAIR, $5 MILLION A YEAR FOR PARKS REPAIR,
11:49:43AM THAT PARKS AND THE ROADS ARE ABSOLUTELY FALLING APART IN THE
11:49:46AM REST OF THE CITY.
11:49:47AM WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK TAXPAYERS IN THE EYE AND SAY,
11:49:51AM WHAT WE'RE INVESTING IN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN INVESTING
11:49:54AM THERE.
11:49:54AM AND IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LET'S
11:49:56AM MOVE THE MONEY OUT AND INSTEAD OF PAYING 375,000 PER UNIT,
11:50:01AM LET'S GO PAY 50,000 SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE NEED 50,000
11:50:04AM UNITS.
11:50:04AM SO, OBVIOUSLY, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS THING.
11:50:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:50:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:50:12AM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:50:17AM -- 22 UNITS UNDER STUDIO, YOU HAVE TWO FOR 80.
11:50:24AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SAME 80, WANT AN INDIVIDUAL NOT TO HAVE
11:50:27AM A WIFE, I GUESS, OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NONE UNDER
11:50:31AM ONE BEDROOM AND NONE UNDER TWO BEDROOMS.
11:50:34AM THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE EXCLUDING SOMEONE WHO HAS A YOUNG
11:50:37AM FAMILY, A WIFE AND A KID OR WHATEVER.
11:50:41AM I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
11:50:43AM IN ANY BUSINESS, NO MATTER WHAT BUSINESS YOU'RE IN, YOU
11:50:47AM ALWAYS HAVE A LEADER.
11:50:48AM YOU CAN CALL IT A LOSS, BUT IT'S NOT A LOSS.
11:50:52AM IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, THE HIGHEST PERCENT OF PROFIT IS
11:50:56AM IN AN ICED TEA AND CUP OF COFFEE, NOT THE FILLET MIGNON.
11:51:01AM THAT'S 40% SOME COST.
11:51:03AM OTHER COST IS ABOUT 8, 10 PERCENT.
11:51:05AM SELL A THOUSAND CUPS OF COFFEE AND HAVE THE FILLET MIGNON OR
11:51:10AM WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE.
11:51:12AM NOT THAT I'M AN EXPERT THERE.
11:51:14AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SEE THAT I'M TRYING TO
11:51:17AM UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN PERSPECTIVE, AND MAYBE I'M
11:51:22AM MISSING A POINT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT A LOSS.
11:51:25AM IT'S YOUR LOSS LEADER YOU'RE USING TO FILL THE NEED IN
11:51:30AM SOCIETY.
11:51:30AM YOUR OVERALL PROJECT IS GOING TO MAKE MONEY I HOPE.
11:51:33AM I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME TO ME AND ASK TO
11:51:38AM BUILD SOMETHING FOR YOU TO LIVE IN.
11:51:40AM LIFE IS A GAMBLE.
11:51:42AM THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IS VERY HOT TODAY.
11:51:45AM WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW.
11:51:46AM WHERE THIS WORLD IS TODAY, LIKELY TO BE A WAR IN 15 SECONDS
11:51:51AM ANYWHERE.
11:51:52AM DESTRUCTION OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO DIE.
11:51:55AM IF THAT HAPPENS, EVERYTHING STOPS.
11:51:58AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL IN HOW
11:52:02AM WE HANDLE THIS FOR YOUR SIDE AND OUR SIDE OR FOR ANYONE'S
11:52:06AM SIDE AND THEIR SIDE.
11:52:07AM IN THE SOCIETY WE HAVE TODAY, PUSH BUTTON.
11:52:14AM I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT FEAR INTO ANYBODY, BUT THAT'S HOW IT
11:52:18AM LOOKS.
11:52:19AM YOU'RE VERY WELL LOCATED.
11:52:23AM EACH OF -- YBOR CITY, THIS SIDE YOU HAVE DOWNTOWN.
11:52:28AM AND LET'S FACE IT, NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO THERE WAS NOTHING
11:52:33AM AROUND HERE, NOT ONE THING OTHER THAN STATUS QUO.
11:52:37AM AND BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT THINGS, WE HAD A CONVENTION CENTER
11:52:43AM WITHOUT A CONVENTION HOTEL.
11:52:44AM THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
11:52:46AM THAT'S HOW IT WAS UNTIL THE MARRIOTT COME IN AND THINGS
11:52:48AM HAPPEN AND SPURRED LITTLE BY LITTLE.
11:52:51AM WE INVEST MONEY AND TAKE RISKS JUST LIKE YOU DO.
11:52:54AM BUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, SOME
11:52:57AM CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK BECAUSE YOU CAN
11:53:01AM PUT THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:53:03AM OWN SOME LAND.
11:53:05AM WE WANT TO DEVELOP IT.
11:53:06AM I DON'T WANT TO PUT -- I WANT TO SEE DIFFERENT THINGS IN
11:53:09AM DIFFERENT PHASES AROUND, SO EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO HAVE A
11:53:14AM QUALITY OF LIFE OF WHATEVER CAN BE EXPECTED FOR THE AMOUNT
11:53:16AM OF MONEY THEY CAN AFFORD.
11:53:18AM BUT THE DAYS OF BUYING A HOUSE FOR $12,600 LIKE I DID IN
11:53:24AM 1968 ARE OVER.
11:53:25AM I CAN SELL MY HOUSE TOMORROW BLINDLY FOR 400,000.
11:53:29AM THE PROBLEM IS IT COSTS ME 600,000 TO REPLACE IT.
11:53:32AM WHAT'S HAPPENING, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ALL
11:53:35AM AREAS OF THE CITY.
11:53:36AM SAY I WAS TO DIE RIGHT NOW, FAMILY SELLS IT, WHAT DO YOU
11:53:41AM THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
11:53:42AM NO MORE OF THOSE INCOMES ARE COMING IN.
11:53:48AM IT WILL BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
11:53:50AM SO THERE'S WHERE WE START TO DETERIORATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
11:53:54AM SOMEBODY TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.
11:53:56AM I'M NOT BLAMING YOU GENTLEMEN.
11:53:59AM NOT AT ALL.
11:54:00AM I'M SAYING LIFE IS WHAT IT IS AND JUST LOOKING AT YOUR -- 43
11:54:06AM IS 4300 BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
11:54:09AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:54:11AM BUT YOU'RE VERY UP FRONT AND VERY REALISTIC.
11:54:14AM I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:54:15AM I THINK THAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT LOOKS AS WELL AS THE OTHERS
11:54:19AM THAT I HAVE SEEN.
11:54:19AM I'M JUST A LITTLE HESITANT RIGHT NOW TO SAY LET'S GO DO IT
11:54:23AM RIGHT TODAY.
11:54:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:54:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
11:54:28AM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:54:31AM I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE HEARD SOME POSITIVE
11:54:35AM AND HEARD SOME NEGATIVE.
11:54:36AM THIS IS SOMETHING I LOOK AT THAT HAS A LOT OF GRAY IN IT,
11:54:39AM RIGHT?
11:54:39AM THIS IS COMING.
11:54:41AM YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING THERE.
11:54:42AM AND YOU GUYS, AS WE DISCUSSED, ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:54:47AM THIS IS MORE OF AN INCLUSIVE PROPERTY WITH PEOPLE WITH
11:54:50AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE,
11:54:53AM ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
11:54:54AM IT'S A GOOD THING.
11:54:55AM THE ISSUE COMES IN, COUNCIL MEMBERS WISELY POINTED OUT,
11:54:59AM AGAIN, IT'S GRAY.
11:55:00AM THERE IS THE GOOD, HERE IS THE BAD, IS THIS THE MOST
11:55:04AM EFFECTIVE USE OF TAX DOLLARS IN EFFECT SUBSIDIZING WORKFORCE
11:55:07AM AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALL THE AMENITIES THAT ARE GOING
11:55:09AM TO COST THE CITY AND THE CRA A LOT MORE, AGAIN, THAT'S
11:55:13AM SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.
11:55:14AM THE WAY I SEE THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST THAT, A PRESENTATION
11:55:18AM WHICH IS WE'RE NOT -- FOR MS. MOODY, IF I MAY, WHAT IF ANY
11:55:23AM -- THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION, CORRECT?
11:55:25AM JUST AN INTRODUCTION, A COFFEE DATE.
11:55:28AM >>ERICA MOODY: IT'S A PRESENTATION ALONG WITH CRA FUNDING
11:55:31AM REQUEST.
11:55:31AM SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR FUNDING TO CONSIDER.
11:55:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO, YEAH.
11:55:36AM FOR ME, THERE IS A LOT OF GRAY IN IT, RIGHT?
11:55:38AM TODAY, I THINK SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOME CRA BOARD MEMBERS
11:55:42AM HAVE DONE A VERY EFFECTIVE JOB AT TALKING OF SOME OF THE
11:55:46AM GRAY.
11:55:47AM THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF GOOD IN THIS.
11:55:49AM I THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE GO
11:55:52AM FORWARD, WE SHOULD ALL BE EXCITED OF THE GROWTH THAT'S
11:55:56AM HAPPENING, ET CETERA, ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
11:56:00AM LIKE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID, LAND THAT IS VACANT AND
11:56:04AM YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF USE IN IT, ET CETERA.
11:56:06AM BUT THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO BE
11:56:08AM SUBSIDIZING AT THIS LEVEL WITH ALL OF THE, FOR LACK OF THE
11:56:12AM USE OF BETTER WORDS, AMENITIES, AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST
11:56:17AM TAXPAYERS IN THE END.
11:56:18AM AGAIN, A LOT OF GRAY THERE.
11:56:21AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET ME INTERRUPT BRIEFLY.
11:56:22AM I DO BELIEVE ALL THESE PRESENTATIONS ARE FUNDING REQUESTS.
11:56:29AM YOU ALL CAN EITHER MAKE A DECISION TODAY THAT YOU'RE
11:56:32AM SUPPORTIVE OF IT, EVEN IF YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF IT TODAY,
11:56:35AM IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THAT WE NEGOTIATE A FUNDING AGREEMENT
11:56:38AM WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE GRANT.
11:56:41AM THE FUNDING DOES NOT OCCUR UNLESS WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AT
11:56:44AM NEGOTIATING THAT AGREEMENT AND THAT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED BY
11:56:46AM THE BOARD.
11:56:47AM SO THERE IS ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS.
11:56:48AM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYONE HERE TODAY.
11:56:51AM SECONDLY, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
11:56:54AM AND YOU'RE NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, YOU CAN DEFER
11:56:58AM IT TO ANOTHER CRA BOARD MEETING AS WELL TO GET YOUR
11:57:01AM QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
11:57:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:57:04AM GOOD, MY TURN.
11:57:05AM I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A MOTION ABOUT A CRA -- HOW WE HANDLE
11:57:11AM GRANTS.
11:57:11AM BUT, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:57:14AM THIS IS ACTUALLY MY DISTRICT.
11:57:16AM AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, IT IS THE SCRUBS WHERE THE --
11:57:24AM PALMETTO THICKET.
11:57:26AM THINKING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY FROM WHAT MY OTHER COUNCIL
11:57:29AM MEMBERS ARE SAYING, AS I DRIVE BY AND I SEE THOSE EMPTY
11:57:33AM LOTS, THE THING THAT ATTRACTED ME TO YOUR PRESENTATION
11:57:36AM REALLY IS THE HOTEL.
11:57:38AM THERE IS A HOTEL THAT SAT THERE ONCE CALLED THE PYRAMID
11:57:42AM HOTEL.
11:57:43AM THAT IS WHERE BLACK FOLKS THAT CAME INTO TOWN COULD STAY
11:57:47AM BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PERMITTED TO STAY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE
11:57:50AM TOWN.
11:57:50AM THE FACT THAT YOU BRING ABOUT AN AFRO CENTRIC LOOK TO A
11:57:54AM BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY IS VERY APPEALING TO ME.
11:57:57AM IT ALSO BRINGS ABOUT JOBS.
11:58:00AM AND IT CREATES A NEW NARRATIVE FOR A PLACE THAT DOES HAVE
11:58:05AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SPONSORED THROUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY,
11:58:09AM THAT DOES EXIST THERE.
11:58:11AM SO THE MIXING OF YOU COMBINING IT WITH SOME WORKFORCE
11:58:16AM HOUSING AND MARKET RATE HOUSING IS APPEALING TO ME.
11:58:18AM I DO THINK IT CAN ATTRACT A DIVERSE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS THAT
11:58:22AM WOULD CHOOSE TO LIVE THERE.
11:58:24AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SEE FOR EAST TAMPA AS WELL
11:58:27AM AS THE AREA LIKE THIS AROUND THE -- PERRY HARVEY PARK.
11:58:31AM IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IN TWO CRAs DOWNTOWN AND
11:58:35AM CENTRAL AVENUE.
11:58:36AM SO I JUST HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN
11:58:40AM OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE JOBS IN AN AREA THAT WAS ACTUALLY
11:58:45AM CALLED CANCER RISK BY FORMER CITY GOVERNMENT.
11:58:49AM SO HERE IT IS, YOU ALL ARE COMING FROM MIAMI PRESENTING AN
11:58:52AM OPPORTUNITY THAT GOES OUTSIDE OF JUST THE SCOPE OF HOUSING
11:58:56AM BUT BRINGING ABOUT JOBS AND RETAIL SPACE THAT IS WORTHY OF
11:59:00AM THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
11:59:02AM I KNOW THAT PEOPLE KNOW THE DEFINITION OF GENTRIFICATION,
11:59:05AM BUT I JUST WANT TO READ JUST A LITTLE BIT OF IT FOR THE
11:59:09AM AUDIENCE TO ENTERTAIN ME AS WELL AS YOU A LITTLE BIT.
11:59:13AM BUT IT IS THE PROCESS BY WHERE THE CHARACTER OF A POOR URBAN
11:59:17AM AREA IS CHANGED BY WEALTHIER PEOPLE MOVING IN.
11:59:20AM IT'S ALSO CHANGED BY CITY GOVERNMENT MAKING QUALITY
11:59:25AM DECISIONS.
11:59:26AM IT ONCE WAS THE SCRUB, AND TO ME IT STILL IS AND FOR A LOT
11:59:30AM OF RESIDENTS STILL LIVING, IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT.
11:59:33AM SO YOU AS DEVELOPERS PAYING HOMAGE TO THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT
11:59:39AM TO ME AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND
11:59:42AM ALSO THE TYPES OF JOBS THAT IT CAN BRING BECAUSE OF THE
11:59:48AM HOTEL AND RETAIL SPACE.
11:59:50AM THAT ACTUALLY IS APPEALING TO ME.
11:59:51AM I KNOW YOU TRIED TO GET AN ANSWER FROM ME YESTERDAY, YOU AND
11:59:56AM ALIS IN TERMS OF HOW I FELT ABOUT IT.
11:59:58AM BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I MADE MY COMMENTS AVAILABLE AFTER
12:00:00PM YOUR FULL PRESENTATION TO EVERYONE.
12:00:03PM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DIVERSIFICATION OF A COMMUNITY
12:00:07PM AND IT ACTUALLY EXISTS ALREADY.
12:00:09PM SO YOU'RE NOT COMING IN AND OVER-GENTRIFYING BECAUSE
12:00:13PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THERE.
12:00:15PM THERE ARE RETIRED EDUCATORS THAT LIVE IN THE ENCORE AREA
12:00:18PM THAT WERE MY FORMER TEACHERS.
12:00:20PM SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I SAY TO YOU THAT I DO APPRECIATE
12:00:24PM THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF IT AND THE THING THAT MAKES IT MOST
12:00:27PM APPEALING TO ME, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF YOUR REQUEST IS THE
12:00:30PM FACT THAT IT CAN BRING ABOUT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND
12:00:34PM MORE SO ALSO YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS IN TERMS OF THE
12:00:37PM ARCHITECTURE AND THE AFRO CENTRIC LOOK.
12:00:40PM NO ONE, NO ONE HAS EVER PRESENTED THAT.
12:00:44PM WE HAVE AREA CALLED MIDTOWN, AND IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:00:47PM WHERE I GREW UP, AND IT LOOKS VERY UNFAMILIAR TO ME.
12:00:51PM IT LOOKS FOREIGN.
12:00:53PM AND SO YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
12:00:56PM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT TO YOU, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER
12:01:00PM OUR DECISION IS GOING TO BE.
12:01:01PM COUNCIL -- I MEAN, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND WE ALSO NEED TO
12:01:07PM CONSIDER LUNCH.
12:01:07PM I KNOW I HAVE A 12:30.
12:01:09PM WE NEED TO CONSIDER LUNCH FOR SURE.
12:01:11PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:01:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:01:14PM IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT
12:01:17PM DEVELOPMENT.
12:01:21PM I'M GUILTY OF THE SAME THING, BUT WE ARE SITTING AS THE CRA
12:01:27PM AND NOT CITY COUNCIL.
12:01:29PM WE ARE NOT LOOKING -- WE SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT THIS AS A
12:01:34PM CITY DEVELOPMENT.
12:01:35PM WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS THROUGH THE LENS OF THE CRA
12:01:38PM WHICH IS INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:01:41PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND MONEY ON.
12:01:44PM THAT'S IT.
12:01:44PM THAT'S OUR MANDATE FROM THE STATE.
12:01:48PM SO TO ME WHEN WE MADE OUR RULES TO SAY -- I MEAN, JUST IN
12:01:54PM JULY THAT SAID WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON NOTHING BUT 80% AND
12:01:57PM BELOW, I THINK WE OUGHT TO STICK WITH THOSE IDEALS.
12:02:00PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE ANYTHING THAT COMES IN FRONT
12:02:02PM OF US BECAUSE WE ALREADY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO.
12:02:04PM SO THE SECOND WE DO ABOVE 80%, THAT'S ALL ANYONE IS GOING TO
12:02:09PM ASK FOR.
12:02:10PM BECAUSE ONCE YOU OPEN THAT FLOODGATE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
12:02:12PM SECOND, WHILE I VALUE THAT PEOPLE, THE GREATEST GOOD FOR THE
12:02:18PM GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CRA IS.
12:02:21PM THE CRA IS FOCUSED ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVING IT THROUGH
12:02:27PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:02:30PM SO HOW DO WE DO THAT?
12:02:31PM IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
12:02:32PM I DO NOT DISAGREE.
12:02:35PM MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE GREATEST GOOD FOR THE CRA.
12:02:39PM MAYBE PUTTING 60,000 -- OR $600,000 PER UNIT ISN'T THE WAY
12:02:44PM WE WANT TO GO, BUT I THINK THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE IMPORTANT
12:02:47PM BECAUSE THE THING IS, WE COULD TAKE THIS MONEY OUT, BUT YOU
12:02:51PM ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT GIVE SOMEONE $50,000 TO PUT A DOWN
12:02:56PM PAYMENT ON A HOUSE IN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUY
12:02:58PM ANYTHING.
12:02:59PM YOU CANNOT BUILD ANYTHING IN THE CITY FOR $50,000.
12:03:02PM IT DOES NOT EXIST.
12:03:03PM NOT ONLY THAT, WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND TO BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY
12:03:07PM HOUSING IN THE CITY.
12:03:08PM WE DON'T HAVE IT.
12:03:09PM 50,000 UNITS IS NOT GOING TO COME FROM SINGLE-FAMILY
12:03:13PM OWNERSHIP.
12:03:13PM IT JUST SIMPLY ISN'T.
12:03:16PM SO I THINK THAT -- SO MOVING THE MONEY OUT TO BUY ELSEWHERE
12:03:21PM IS ONLY GOING TO SUBSIDIZE SO MUCH LESS.
12:03:24PM IT'S NOT GOING TO SUBSIDIZE THAT MUCH LESS.
12:03:26PM WHAT IS THE COST OF BUILDING A HOUSE RIGHT NOW?
12:03:28PM I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND $300,000 JUST TO BUILD IT.
12:03:33PM THAT'S NOT INCLUDING LAND.
12:03:34PM I THINK RFPs ARE IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS WHEN WE OWN THE
12:03:44PM LAND.
12:03:45PM WE CANNOT FORCE PEOPLE TO DO STUFF WITH THEIR OWN LAND.
12:03:51PM THE DEVELOPERS SAID THEY ARE BUILDING THIS REGARDLESS
12:03:53PM WHETHER WE GIVE THEM SOME MONEY.
12:03:55PM MR. CARLSON'S QUESTION, I AGREE.
12:03:57PM WHERE IS THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY?
12:03:59PM AND WHY AREN'T THEY GIVING THE MONEY?
12:04:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY SOLD THEM THE LAND.
12:04:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAVEN'T SOLD IT YET.
12:04:05PM OH, YOU DID.
12:04:08PM WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT RESTRICTIONS ON IT?
12:04:11PM WHY IS IT COMING TO CITY COUNCIL OR THE CRA TO DO THAT?
12:04:15PM THEY OWN THE LAND, THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT THEY DO.
12:04:19PM THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:04:22PM INSTEAD THEY SOLD THE LOT.
12:04:24PM I'M A LITTLE UPSET ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF TAMPA
12:04:29PM HOUSING AUTHORITY, IF THAT'S THEIR MANDATE, SELLING IT AND
12:04:33PM THEN TAKING THE CASH, WHICH, SURE, THE CASH IS HELPFUL NOW,
12:04:36PM BUT WHAT WILL BE MORE HELPFUL IS IF THAT WENT TOWARD
12:04:40PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:04:40PM BASICALLY, I JUST WANT THIS -- I'M SORRY, THIS IS NOT WHAT
12:04:46PM YOU WERE HERE FOR, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REALLY
12:04:50PM DEALT WITH THIS.
12:04:51PM HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH CRA PROPERTIES?
12:04:54PM IF YOU ALL CAME IN FRONT OF US AS JUST A REGULAR REZONING,
12:04:58PM SURE, THIS IS PERFECT.
12:05:00PM THIS IS GREAT.
12:05:01PM LOVE IT.
12:05:01PM BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
12:05:04PM SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR ALL OF US TO REALLY CONSIDER
12:05:09PM WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY IN THIS CRA.
12:05:13PM IS 25 UNITS FOR $15 MILLION AMENABLE?
12:05:21PM AND I DON'T THINK FOR ANY OF US RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE
12:05:23PM COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
12:05:25PM I THINK IT'S A TRICK FOR US, AGAIN, WORKING ON THIS.
12:05:31PM SO THIS IS MY CONCERN IS I THINK WE NEED A DEEPER DIVE
12:05:38PM CONVERSATION AMONG US, A WORKSHOP OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
12:05:44PM LOOKS LIKE IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
12:05:47PM HOW DO WE AFFORD THAT?
12:05:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN WE'RE GOING
12:05:54PM TO DISCUSS LUNCH.
12:05:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST, THE IDEA OF THE RFP IS IN
12:06:00PM EAST TAMPA THERE WAS A PROJECT RECENTLY WHERE THE CITY, I
12:06:04PM THINK IT WAS THE CITY PUT IN A $14 MILLION SUBSIDY.
12:06:07PM I GOT CALLS, MAYBE YOU ALL DID, FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO
12:06:10PM SAID MOSTLY NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS SAID IF YOU ALL PUT THAT UP
12:06:15PM FOR RFP AND SAID WE HAVE $14 MILLION, WHAT CAN YOU BUILD FOR
12:06:18PM $14 MILLION, THEY SAID WE COULD HAVE BUILT TWO OR THREE
12:06:21PM TIMES AS MANY UNITS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT WASN'T PUT
12:06:24PM OUT FOR BID.
12:06:25PM IF WE'RE JUST RESPONDING TO PROPOSALS, ALL WE KNOW IS WHAT
12:06:29PM THE COST TO DEVELOPERS ARE.
12:06:30PM IF WE PUT THE MONEY OUT FOR BID, IF WE HAD A RULE THAT SAID
12:06:33PM IN DOWNTOWN WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE 150, $200,000 PER UNIT,
12:06:38PM WHAT CAN YOU BUILD FOR IT AND THEN PEOPLE COULD COME
12:06:41PM PROPOSE.
12:06:41PM MY IDEA FOR THE 50,000, NOT HOUSE COST 50,000, DISCUSSION
12:06:47PM FOR ANOTHER DAY, BUT 50,000 COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN
12:06:49PM PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO PUT THEIR DOWN PAYMENT OR BUY THE
12:06:52PM HOUSE.
12:06:52PM I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS OR WHATEVER, BUT
12:06:57PM I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE CHAIR.
12:06:59PM THANK YOU.
12:07:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE LUNCH.
12:07:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS FIRST.
12:07:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW.
12:07:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL ALSO SAY I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS.
12:07:28PM MY COMMENTS ARE IN NO WAY TRYING TO DISPARAGE THE PROPOSAL
12:07:32PM AND THE DEVELOPMENT.
12:07:34PM IT'S THAT WE NEED TO FIX OUR SYSTEMS INSIDE THE CRA.
12:07:36PM WE HAVE ALL NEW STAFF, BUT WE NEED TO FIX OUR PROCESSES SO
12:07:39PM WE CAN BETTER HANDLE PROPOSALS.
12:07:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I HAND THE CHAIR OVER TO YOU?
12:07:45PM I DO HAVE A MOTION THAT CAN KIND OF SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE
12:07:48PM SAYING HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
12:07:50PM THANK YOU.
12:07:54PM I ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION THAT CAN HELP US AT LEAST COME UP
12:08:00PM WITH A PROCESS.
12:08:02PM I'LL JUST READ IT AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL SAY.
12:08:04PM I MOVE THAT THE CRA STAFF CREATE A WRITTEN APPLICATION
12:08:07PM CRITERIA SCORING AND MATRIX AND APPLICATION PROCESS FOR CRA
12:08:11PM GRANT REQUEST THAT DON'T FALL WITHIN AN EXISTING PROVIDED
12:08:14PM CRA GRANT PROGRAM AND I REQUEST THAT CRA STAFF PROVIDE THESE
12:08:19PM ITEMS FOR THE BOARD CONSIDERATION AT THE BOARD'S MARCH
12:08:24PM 21st MEETING.
12:08:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:08:28PM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:08:29PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:08:30PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:08:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE FEBRUARY -- HELP ME, MORRIS.
12:08:38PM I THINK IT IS THE FEBRUARY MEETING WE HAVE THE CONCEPT OF
12:08:40PM THE RFP COMING UP.
12:08:41PM MY PREFERENCE IS INSTEAD OF GRANT -- I AGREE WITH TRYING TO
12:08:47PM PUT MORE CONTROLS AROUND GRANT APPLICATIONS.
12:08:51PM WHAT I WOULD RATHER DO IS TO SAY HERE IS THE MONEY WE HAVE
12:08:54PM AND HERE'S HOW WE WOULD ALLOCATE IT.
12:08:56PM IF YOU ALL WANT TO -- AND THEN PUT IT OUT, ADVERTISE IT AND
12:09:01PM SAY WITHIN THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WE'LL ACCEPT PROPOSALS.
12:09:05PM WHEREVER THE RFP DISCUSSION IS, I RECOMMEND THAT --
12:09:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, WE CAN ADD PROPOSALS WITH THAT.
12:09:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I RECOMMEND -- NO, ALREADY ON THE AGENDA, I
12:09:13PM THINK IN FEBRUARY TO DISCUSS RFPs.
12:09:15PM MY SUGGESTION IS PUT THIS IMMEDIATELY AFTER IT.
12:09:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN FEBRUARY?
12:09:20PM >> MARCH 21st.
12:09:22PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO TRAVEL
12:09:24PM TOGETHER.
12:09:24PM STAFF CAN LOOK AT BOTH CONCEPTS AND COME BACK WITH
12:09:28PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:09:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH.
12:09:29PM THAT IS OKAY WITH ME.
12:09:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE FINE NUANCE IN WHAT I'M SAYING, I THINK
12:09:34PM WE NEED TO ADVERTISE IT INSTEAD OF JUST RESPONDING.
12:09:37PM WE NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW MONEY IS AVAILABLE.
12:09:39PM SMALL NONPROFITS THAT CAN BUILD QUADS AND SMALLER UNITS.
12:09:44PM THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE POSSIBILITY IS SO THEY CAN ALL
12:09:47PM APPLY AT THE SAME TIME.
12:09:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MARCH 21st.
12:09:54PM YES, I WILL ACCEPT THAT.
12:09:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SECONDED BY
12:09:57PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BY COUNCILMAN
12:09:59PM CARLSON.
12:10:00PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:10:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:10:02PM ANY OPPOSED.
12:10:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:10:05PM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE LUNCH.
12:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO DENY THE PROPOSAL FOR THE 14.8
12:10:20PM MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT OF ENCORE LOT 10.
12:10:29PM >> SECOND.
12:10:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THE
12:10:32PM GRANT REQUEST, CRA DOLLAR GRANT REQUEST FROM BOARD MEMBER
12:10:36PM MANISCALCO -- CLENDENIN.
12:10:40PM THAT'S YOUR NAME.
12:10:40PM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:10:48PM IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
12:10:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE WAY -- AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, LET ME
12:10:54PM ASK YOU SOMETHING, WHICH IS, COULD THIS ALSO BE TAKEN AS A
12:10:57PM REQUEST TO THE FOLKS HERE TO POTENTIALLY COME BACK WITH
12:11:02PM SOMETHING REVISED, WHICH IS WE'RE REJECTING THIS.
12:11:06PM AN OFFER WAS MADE.
12:11:07PM THERE IS NO ACCEPTANCE OF THAT OFFER, BUT THEY CAN MAKE A
12:11:10PM COUNTER OFFER.
12:11:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN MY
12:11:13PM PROPOSAL THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
12:11:16PM IT'S WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED FOR IS ANSWERED.
12:11:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S HOW I'M GOING TO TAKE IT WHICH IS --
12:11:23PM AGAIN, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD HERE.
12:11:25PM AND I WOULD URGE YOU ALL TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITHIN THE
12:11:28PM SYSTEM TO POTENTIALLY MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
12:11:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN
12:11:34PM CARLSON SAID.
12:11:35PM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
12:11:36PM I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL PRESENTED.
12:11:38PM THIS IS REALLY JUST ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS FOR CRA TO
12:11:42PM BE ABLE TO SOLVE SOME NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:11:44PM IT IS NOT A REFLECTION ON WHAT YOU PRESENTED TODAY.
12:11:47PM I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE WITH THIS.
12:11:51PM I LOOK FORWARD TO ATTENDING THE RIBBON CUTTING AND THE GRAND
12:11:54PM OPENING.
12:11:54PM I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL ASSET FOR THE CITY OF
12:11:57PM TAMPA.
12:11:57PM JUST NOT THIS COMPONENT OF IT.
12:11:58PM THANK YOU.
12:11:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:12:00PM AYE.
12:12:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:12:02PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:12:04PM OKAY.
12:12:04PM SO WE'LL GO TO LUNCH.
12:12:06PM WE CAN BE BACK AT 1:35.
12:12:11PM [LUNCH RECESS]
01:42:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:42:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:42:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:42:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:42:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:42:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRINT.
01:42:43PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:42:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DO, DIRECTOR MOODY, AND YOU WANT TO COME
01:42:48PM UP.
01:42:50PM >>ERICA MOODY: WE ARE READY.
01:42:51PM GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD.
01:42:53PM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD AND MOVING WITH OUR
01:42:59PM AGENDA WITH ITEM 4 THIS AFTERNOON.
01:43:00PM ITEM 4 IS ENCORE LOT 12.
01:43:04PM A DEVELOPER PRESENTATION FROM THE PATEL FAMILY ORGANIZATION
01:43:08PM AND THEY ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUILDING A GROCERY STORE AND
01:43:11PM HEALTH CLINIC ON THE ENCORE IN LOT 12.
01:43:14PM I WILL ASK THE DEVELOPERS TO COME UP AND PRESENT THEIR
01:43:17PM PROJECTS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND
01:43:21PM THAT AS WELL.
01:43:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ROBUST.
01:43:28PM >> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU, MY NAME IS
01:43:33PM BEN VALCHIPALI.
01:43:34PM I AM THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL WITH THE PATEL FAMILY OFFICE.
01:43:38PM I'M HERE TO REPRESENT MY COLLEAGUES WITH THE PATEL FAMILY
01:43:44PM OFFICE.
01:43:44PM THE PROPOSED PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS -- INCLUDES
01:43:50PM 294 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, A 42,000-SQUARE-FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE
01:43:56PM THAT WILL HOUSE A COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER, AND A GROCERY
01:44:00PM STORE.
01:44:00PM THE NEED FOR A GROCER AND ACCESS FOR HEALTH CARE IN THE
01:44:05PM CENTRAL PARK DISTRICT HAS BEEN WIDELY KNOWN AND MEMORIALIZED
01:44:09PM SINCE THE INITIAL ADOPTION OF THE CENTRAL PARK CRA
01:44:13PM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
01:44:14PM SPECIFICALLY, BOTH A GROCERY STORE AND MEDICAL SERVICES WERE
01:44:18PM NOTED BY THE NEIGHBORS.
01:44:22PM BY THE COMMUNITY SINCE -- DURING THIS INITIAL CENTRAL PARK
01:44:27PM CRA PUBLIC INPUT MEETING BACK IN 2006.
01:44:30PM SO FOR DECADES, THESE NEEDS HAVE MANIFESTED THEMSELVES AND
01:44:35PM PRESENTED THEMSELVES FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
01:44:37PM IN ADDITION TO HOUSING, ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS OF THIS
01:44:41PM DEVELOPMENT IS TO PROVIDE AN ATTAINABLE URBAN GROCER TO ONE
01:44:46PM OF THE CITY'S FOOD DESERTS, PROVIDING THE CITIZENS OF THE
01:44:49PM CENTRAL PARK DISTRICT WITH A AFFORDABLE, HEALTHY AND ORGANIC
01:44:55PM OPTIONS.
01:44:56PM ONE OF THE TOP GROCERS -- ON TOP OF THE GROCER, EXCUSE ME,
01:45:02PM WE WILL PROVIDE A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING TO PROVIDE THE
01:45:05PM SURROUNDING RESIDENTS WITH ACCESS TO SPECIALIZED HEALTH CARE
01:45:08PM INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DENTAL, WOMEN'S HEALTH AND
01:45:12PM PEDIATRICS.
01:45:13PM THE REASON WE ARE HERE TODAY IS TO REQUEST AN 80% PROPERTY
01:45:18PM TAX REBATE OF THE AD VALOREM TAXES GENERATED AND PAID AFTER
01:45:26PM DEVELOPMENT ON LOT 12 OF THE ENCORE PLAN -- OF THE ENCORE
01:45:31PM PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
01:45:31PM SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR
01:45:35PM IS -- IS ONLY AN 80% PROPERTY TAX REBATE OF THE AD VALOREM
01:45:41PM TAXES GENERATED AND PAID AFTER -- AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT.
01:45:44PM SO NO UP-FRONT MONEY.
01:45:46PM THE TOTAL PROPOSED REBATE WILL BE $9,958,6993 AGAIN WITH NO
01:45:56PM UP-FRONT COMMITMENT OF THE TAX REBATE UNTIL CERTIFICATE OF
01:45:59PM OCCUPANCY AND REASSESSMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
01:46:02PM NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE CRA WILL, COMING OUT OF POCKET FROM
01:46:08PM ANY OTHER FUNDS AND REVENUES BECAUSE ONLY TAXES GENERATED
01:46:14PM FROM THIS PROJECT WILL BE REBATED, WHICH PROJECT AND TAX
01:46:18PM STATEMENTS WILL OTHERWISE NOT OCCUR WITHOUT THIS CRA'S
01:46:21PM SUPPORT.
01:46:22PM THE REBATE WILL SUNSET AFTER APPROXIMATELY NINE YEARS WHEN
01:46:26PM THE LENDING SHORTFALL NEED SUPPORT THE GROCER AND MEDICAL
01:46:34PM OFFICE AND COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER IS RECOVERED.
01:46:36PM THE PROPERTY TAX REBATE IS ASK GENERATED FROM ALL TAXABLE
01:46:40PM USES OF THE BUILDING, MEDICAL OFFICES, GROCER, THE REBATE
01:46:45PM WILL ONLY GO BACK TO THE MEDICAL OFFICE AND GROCER LANDLORD
01:46:50PM TO COVER THE $9.9 MILLION SHORTFALL.
01:46:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH, IF I COULD -- SORRY, THERE WE
01:47:05PM GO.
01:47:05PM AND JUST HIGHLIGHT AND ADDRESS HOW THIS PROJECT IS
01:47:10PM CONSISTENT WITH AND IMPLEMENTS THE CENTRAL PARK CRA
01:47:15PM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
01:47:15PM SECTION FIVE OF THE CENTRAL PARK CRA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
01:47:21PM SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN REQUESTING A
01:47:24PM GROCERY STORE AND MEDICAL OFFICES SINCE 2006.
01:47:27PM HERE WE GO.
01:47:37PM SORRY.
01:47:38PM ALSO, THE MINORITY AFFAIRS ELEMENT SECTIONS 3.2 SETS FORTH
01:47:45PM SEVERAL GOALS OF WHICH THIS PROJECT COMPLIES.
01:47:49PM GOAL ONE IS TO SUPPORT AND -- THE USE OF MINORITY AND WOMEN
01:47:53PM BUSINESS PARTICIPATION IN CITY ACTIVITIES.
01:47:56PM THE GROCER WILL BE MINORITY FEMALE-OWNED BUSINESS.
01:48:01PM THE M.O.B. PROJECTS TO PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE TO 18,000
01:48:06PM UNDERSERVED POPULATION IN THAT DISTRICT.
01:48:10PM GOAL TWO IS TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES THAT
01:48:16PM WILL PROVIDE ECONOMIC SELF-SUFFICIENCY, MAXIMIZE EMPLOYMENT
01:48:21PM OPPORTUNITIES AND INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR MINORITY
01:48:24PM RESIDENTS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:48:26PM THE GROCER, FOR THIS GOAL, WILL CREATE 95 JOBS RANGE IN
01:48:33PM SALARIES FROM $15 AN HOUR TO $48 AN HOUR.
01:48:37PM MEDICAL OFFICE WILL ARE 60 RETAINED JOB FROM ENTRY LEVEL TO
01:48:42PM PHYSICIAN.
01:48:42PM GOAL THREE, PROMOTE ACTIVITIES IN MINORITY POPULATED AREAS
01:48:47PM THAT WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND SUSTAIN SAFE,
01:48:51PM HEALTHY AND VIABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
01:48:53PM THE GROCER WILL PROVIDE ORGANIC ALTERNATIVES AT ACCESSIBLE
01:48:59PM PRICES WITH A MISSION ALIGNED OF ENHANCING LIFE AND HEALTH.
01:49:03PM THE MEDICAL OFFICE IS THE LARGEST PROVIDER FOR UNINSURED
01:49:07PM PATIENTS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
01:49:08PM GOAL 4, PROMOTE AND SUPPORT THE DELIVERY OF EDUCATION,
01:49:12PM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES TO MINORITY RESIDENTS IN ORDER TO
01:49:16PM ACHIEVE AND MAINTAIN A HEALTHY QUALITY OF LIFE.
01:49:19PM THE TAMPA FAMILY HEALTH CENTER WILL PROVIDE SUSTAINED AND
01:49:24PM ACCESSIBLE MEDICAL SUPPORT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM OF THE
01:49:28PM COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
01:49:29PM SO WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED AND
01:49:35PM THE REQUEST THAT WE ARE SEEKING FALLS EXACTLY IN LINE WITH
01:49:38PM THE CRA'S REDEVELOPMENT PLAN INITIATIVES AND THE GOALS SET
01:49:42PM FORTH IN EXCEPTIONS 3.2.
01:49:44PM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT CHAD CHENCHAGO AND
01:49:52PM PHIL SAVARY WHO WILL GO THROUGH THE PROJECT AND PROVIDE MORE
01:49:56PM DETAILS.
01:49:57PM >> WE WORKED ON THAT LAST NAME TOGETHER.
01:49:59PM >> THAT IS RIGHT.
01:50:00PM [LAUGHTER]
01:50:07PM HI, EVERYBODY.
01:50:08PM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
01:50:09PM BUT BASICALLY WHAT BEN SAID ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES WHAT THE
01:50:13PM GOAL HERE IS.
01:50:14PM THERE IS A MARKET, APARTMENT COMPLEX ABOVE A MEDICAL OFFICE
01:50:18PM BUILDING AND A GROCERY STORE.
01:50:19PM IF YOU -- LET'S HYPOTHETICALLY SAY NO, NOT A GOOD IDEA TO
01:50:25PM REBATE THESE USES.
01:50:26PM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH NO ADDITIONAL MENU THAT SERVES THE
01:50:30PM COMMUNITY.
01:50:30PM BASICALLY THOSE TAXES -- ONCE THE BUILDING IS FINISHED ARE
01:50:35PM USED TO PAY BACK THE LOAN OR A SMALL PORTION OF THE LOAN TO
01:50:38PM BUILD THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
01:50:39PM THAT IS YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
01:50:41PM THE RISK IS ON THE DEVELOPER.
01:50:43PM THE CITY -- IF THIS THING NEVER COMES TO FRUITION, NOTHING
01:50:47PM HAPPENS.
01:50:48PM THE LOT STAYS VACANT.
01:50:49PM THINGS LIKE THAT AND NO INTEREST PAID ON THE BOND OR
01:50:53PM ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
01:50:53PM THE FULL RISK IS ON DR. PATEL, DR. KIERAN PATEL UP FRONT.
01:50:59PM IF IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
01:51:00PM IF ITS SUCCESSFUL.
01:51:01PM ANCHORED BY A GROCER, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE CITY IS A PARTNER
01:51:07PM AT THAT POINT IN THE FORM OF A TAX REBATE.
01:51:09PM NOT APPEAR BOND, GRANT, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
01:51:12PM IF IT DOESN'T GENERATE THE INCREMENT WE ARE PROJECTING A
01:51:16PM SEMITIC BENEFIT FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
01:51:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
01:51:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:51:25PM HOW MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT?
01:51:30PM >> IN THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS NO AFFORDABLE
01:51:33PM HOUSING.
01:51:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WAS A LOT, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
01:51:39PM >> YES, MA'AM.
01:51:40PM THE MANDATE ON THE LOT IS THE GROCERY STORE.
01:51:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH
01:51:45PM THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THERE IS A WORKING URBAN FARM IN
01:51:50PM ENCORE THAT SELLS ORGANIC FOOD THAT IS LOCAL PROVIDING JOBS
01:51:56PM LOCALLY.
01:51:57PM THEY WORK WITH -- YOU CAN DOUBLE YOUR SNAP PEN FITS THERE.
01:52:02PM SO THERE IS ALSO A NEW PUBLIX AND CHANNELSIDE A DUCKWEED
01:52:09PM URBAN MARKET DOWNTOWN.
01:52:10PM THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT SINCE 2006 WHEN A GROCER WAS
01:52:15PM NEEDED IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:52:26PM IF AN ORGANIC MARKET WAS TO GO IN THERE, YOU ARE HURTING THE
01:52:30PM BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:52:32PM THAT IS MY CONCERN.
01:52:34PM CAN YOU BUILD THIS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE CRA.
01:52:43PM >> THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TRULY JUSTIFIES ITSELF.
01:52:47PM THE USE IS NEEDED MOSTLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE PARK
01:52:51PM ALSO NOT SUPPORT THE RENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING
01:52:53PM DISCOUNTED FOR THE GROCER.
01:52:57PM A SMALL START TO THE GROCER PART, MEACHAM IS GREAT.
01:53:03PM A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES THAT COULD
01:53:07PM USE GOOD PARTNERSHIP.
01:53:08PM I TOTALLY AGREE THAT OUR IDEA IS TO MAKE THOSE AMENITIES
01:53:12PM AVAILABLE ON-SITE.
01:53:14PM SO THERE IS -- ONCE DONE, 2500 UNITS IN THE ENCORE DISTRICT
01:53:20PM ALONE AND AMAZING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FROM THE
01:53:25PM INCEPTION FROM NOW.
01:53:26PM RELOCATED AND RELOCATED BACK AND CROSSING NEBRASKA, GOING TO
01:53:32PM PUBLIX AND SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS IS A CHALLENGE.
01:53:35PM SOME HAVE TO TAKE THE BUS TO WINN-DIXIE OR WALMART.
01:53:40PM I AGREE WE WOULD LOVE TO BUILD SYNERGY WITH WHAT IS THERE IN
01:53:44PM SITE.
01:53:45PM PUBLIX AS A COMMUNITY GROCER -- FOR ME, $14 FOR A LISTERINE
01:53:52PM AT PUBLIX.
01:53:53PM A HARD REALITY FOR PEOPLE AND JUSTIFY BUYING FULL MARKET
01:53:58PM GROCERY PRICES.
01:53:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YOU ARE SAYING -- HOW DO WE GUARANTEE THAT
01:54:03PM THE GROCERY IS STILL THERE?
01:54:05PM >> A GREAT QUESTION.
01:54:06PM GUARANTEED BY -- I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE TO TRUST THE LEASES
01:54:11PM AND THE FAMILIES THAT ARE BEHIND IT WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE
01:54:13PM PATEL FAMILY AND THE VENDOR.
01:54:19PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD OF PATEL BROTHERS.
01:54:22PM ANALOGOUS TO THAT.
01:54:24PM SAME FAMILY.
01:54:25PM SAME KIND OF A CONCEPT OF A PUBLIX -- HOW WOULD YOU TRUST --
01:54:29PM THE GREENWISE AND WATERTREE.
01:54:31PM WILL THAT STAY GREENE GREENWISE?
01:54:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE AREN'T FUNDING THAT.
01:54:36PM >> GOOD POINT.
01:54:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS MY ISSUE.
01:54:41PM I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS JUST FROM A GROCERY STANDPOINT.
01:54:45PM I WOULD SUPPORT IT IF THERE WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ATTACHED
01:54:48PM AND WE WERE PAYING FOR SOME OF THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING I
01:54:51PM COULD SEE AN OPENING, BUT FOR ME I DON'T SEE SUPPORT FOR A
01:54:55PM GROCERY.
01:54:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
01:54:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST, THANK YOU TO THE
01:55:01PM PATEL FAMILY FOR ALWAYS PROPOSING IDEAS FOR THEIR
01:55:04PM CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY.
01:55:05PM GREAT PEOPLE.
01:55:06PM AND I KNOW THEY HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS HERE AND PUT FORWARD
01:55:11PM GOOD IDEAS.
01:55:12PM AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE CRA IS IN
01:55:15PM TRANSITION.
01:55:16PM WE ARE TRYING TO -- TO REALLY REFINE HOW WE SPEND THE
01:55:22PM TAXPAYER MONEY.
01:55:23PM WE ARE CUSTODIANS OF THIS MONEY THAT THE REST OF THE CITY
01:55:28PM HAS ENTRUSTED US WITH.
01:55:29PM THE MONEY AND THE CRA DISTRICT IS SUBSIDIZED BY OTHER PARTS
01:55:35PM OF THE CITY.
01:55:35PM TO THINK OF WHAT WE CAN SPEND ON, WE NEED TO STAND IN FRONT
01:55:38PM OF THE TAXPAYERS WHO ARE SUBSIDIZING IT SAY WHATEVER WE
01:55:42PM SPENT MORE MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FIXING ROADS AND
01:55:45PM PARK.
01:55:46PM A PARK IN SOUTH TAMPA WHERE THE DUGOUTS ARE FALLING APART ON
01:55:50PM KIDS' HEADS AND THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REPLACE
01:55:52PM IT.
01:55:52PM IT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
01:55:55PM WE CAN'T REPLACE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY.
01:55:57PM IF WE HAD THE BUDGET TO REPAIR PARKS IS ABOUT $5 MILLION A
01:56:01PM YEAR.
01:56:01PM IF WE HAD $10 MILLION, WE COULD TRIPLE THAT AND DO THREE
01:56:07PM YEARS OF PARKS REPAIRS.
01:56:08PM THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT.
01:56:09PM THEY DON'T WANT THEIR TAXES TO GO UP.
01:56:12PM AND I DON'T LIKE IT -- I DON'T KNOW WHOSE -- $9,999,000.
01:56:21PM SEEMS LIKE I AM AT A DISCOUNT STORE.
01:56:25PM IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.
01:56:26PM AS I SAID THIS MORNING THE TAXPAYERS OVER AND OVER AND OVER
01:56:30PM AGAIN SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO YOU TO SUBSIDIZE DEVELOPMENT OR
01:56:34PM DEVELOPERS.
01:56:34PM PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF FREE MARKET AND CAPITALISM SAY NOT
01:56:38PM FAIR TO CAPITALIZE SOME AND NOT THE OTHERS.
01:56:41PM NOT OUR JOB TO FILL THE GAP IF A DEVELOPER DOES NOT MAKE A
01:56:46PM PROJECT WORK AND NOT FAIR FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS SWEATING,
01:56:49PM PUTTING THEIR MONEY AT RISK TO DO EVERYTHING.
01:56:52PM IN THIS CASE, IT'S -- IT'S PURPORTEDLY FOR A GROCERY STORE.
01:56:58PM I TOLD YOU BEFORE -- I HAVE BEEN AROUND THESE DEALINGS IN
01:57:01PM THE PAST ST. PETE AND OTHER PLACES, I DON'T THINK THESE
01:57:05PM DEALS WORK.
01:57:05PM THIS ONE IS NOT SET UP.
01:57:07PM IT IS WAY TOO MUCH MONEY.
01:57:10PM I AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT OF MEACHAM, WITH THE CONCEPT
01:57:16PM OF RP,PPs.
01:57:17PM IF WE ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND SAY WE WANT SOMEBODY TO
01:57:20PM OFFER GROCERY INITIATIVES AND WE HAVE UP TO $2 MILLION.
01:57:23PM WHAT MEACHAM CAN DO WITH $2 MILLION.
01:57:27PM THEY CAN HAVE A REALLY ROBUST STORE.
01:57:31PM MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A GRAB AND GO.
01:57:33PM NOT LIKE A REGULAR GROCERY STORE.
01:57:36PM BUT ANYWAY, INSTEAD OF RESPONDING TO PROPOSALS LIKE THIS, WE
01:57:40PM NEED TO PUT OUT A RFP.
01:57:43PM WE WANT TO ALLOCATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.
01:57:45PM WHAT CAN PEOPLE DO FOR IT.
01:57:47PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT.
01:57:50PM IF WE APPROVE ONE OF THESE WET GET EVERY DEVELOPER ASKING
01:57:55PM FOR MONEY AND I DON'T FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE THAT ANY
01:58:02PM TAXPAYER.
01:58:06PM AND WE SHOULD NOT BE GENERALLY SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPMENT
01:58:09PM BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET A RETURN ON IT
01:58:12PM SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.
01:58:13PM AND THE LAST THING IS, THIS IS TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY
01:58:16PM PROPERTY.
01:58:16PM THEY WEREN'T DEVELOPED THIS PROPERTY IN 20 YEARS.
01:58:18PM WERE THEY ASLEEP?
01:58:21PM WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT THEY
01:58:23PM CAN'T MAKE THIS WORK.
01:58:24PM THAT IS THEIR PROPERTY, THEY SHOULD MAKE IT WORK.
01:58:28PM THANK YOU.
01:58:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:58:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU OWN THIS PROPERTY ALREADY?
01:58:33PM DID YOU GET CONTROL OVER THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY?
01:58:36PM >> WE DO.
01:58:36PM THE ONLY REASON WE WERE HERE A UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM CAC
01:58:42PM AND MEACHAM IS ON OUR CAC AS WELL.
01:58:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WAS IT STIPULATION THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
01:58:47PM GROCERY STORE?
01:58:49PM >> IT IS.
01:58:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T BUILD A GROCERY STORE.
01:58:52PM >> ZERO INCREMENT.
01:58:54PM NOT FORWARD FUNDING.
01:58:55PM BUT IF THIS ISN'T APPROVED, THEN THE LAND IS VACANT AND NO
01:58:58PM INCREMENT.
01:59:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE PROJECT WON'T MOVE FORWARD.
01:59:04PM >> CORRECT.
01:59:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE A LOT OF WHAT MR. CARLSON JUST
01:59:09PM SAID.
01:59:09PM THE ONLY THING I SEPARATE ON IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:59:13PM IF YOU ARE COMING TO US AND ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, MONEY TO
01:59:17PM PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY WOULD NORMALLY PAY FOR
01:59:20PM AND NORMALLY WOULDN'T BOND FOR DEVELOPMENT, IF THERE IS
01:59:23PM USAGE SYSTEMS AND THE WATER LINES AND THE STREET
01:59:26PM REDEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT GIVES US AN
01:59:29PM OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO, YOU KNOW -- THE DEVELOPER FRONT LOADS
01:59:33PM THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BOND THAT INFORMATION AND WE DO IT
01:59:36PM THROUGH A TIP, REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:59:40PM I GET THAT AND I AM AMICABLE TO THAT.
01:59:44PM ON THESE PROJECTS, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE ISSUE WE HAD JUST
01:59:48PM PRIOR TO YOURS, I THINK THAT SAYING THAT WE HAVE X AMOUNT OF
01:59:52PM DOLLARS TO SPEND.
01:59:53PM WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THAT MONEY AND WHAT IS THE GREATEST
01:59:56PM AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
01:59:58PM SORRY COUNCILMAN HURTAK -- COUNCIL PERSON HURTAK.
02:00:06PM AND I THINK IT IS AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY AND I WOULD LIKE TO
02:00:12PM SEE -- BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER ON
02:00:16PM THIS, WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE WITH $10 MILLION.
02:00:18PM >> JUST TO CLARIFY.
02:00:19PM IF IT IS NOT BUILT, THERE IS NO INCREMENT THERE.
02:00:22PM SO -- THE $10 MILLION --
02:00:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND BUT -- UNLESS SOMETHING
02:00:27PM DRAMATICALLY CHANGES WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, ALL THIS
02:00:29PM PROPERTY WILL GET DEVELOPED.
02:00:31PM THIS IS PRIME PROPERTY.
02:00:34PM YOU WILL BE THERE NEXT TO GASWORX AND THE EXPANDED STREETCAR
02:00:43PM LINE.
02:00:43PM THE PEOPLE WILL BE LINED UP THE DOOR TO DEVELOP PROPERTY IN
02:00:46PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:00:47PM >> AGREED, THAT SPECIFIC LOT IS MANDATED TO BE A GROCERY
02:00:50PM STORE.
02:00:51PM THAT IS THE ONLY KIND OF -- I AGREE WITH YOU.
02:00:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEBODY WILL FIGURE OUT THE ECONOMICS
02:00:55PM THERE.
02:00:56PM THERE WILL BE AN ECONOMIC EQUATION TO MAKE THESE THINGS
02:01:00PM WORK.
02:01:00PM HONESTLY, YOU AND I -- WE HAVE SPOKEN AND STUFF.
02:01:04PM I LIKE THE CONCEPT AND THE FAMILY BEHIND THIS IS CRITICALLY
02:01:08PM IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:01:09PM AND HAS DONE AMAZING WORK HERE.
02:01:11PM >> THANK YOU.
02:01:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO.
02:01:14PM BUT OF US -- WE ARE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY.
02:01:18PM OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, NOT OURS.
02:01:20PM WE HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE WEIGH THOSE
02:01:23PM THINGS OUT AND HOW -- AND WHAT WE DECIDE.
02:01:26PM AND IT IS JUST -- I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
02:01:28PM THANK YOU.
02:01:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
02:01:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:01:35PM A COUPLE OF REMARKS ON THIS.
02:01:37PM IF I AM READING COUNCIL RIGHT -- AND KIND OF LIKE THE
02:01:41PM PROJECT WE HAD BEFORE.
02:01:41PM YOU GUYS ARE MAKING AN OFFER.
02:01:44PM MAY NOT BE A DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR ACCEPTANCE, BUT COULD BE SOME
02:01:48PM WAY FORWARD.
02:01:49PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT FOCUSING ON THINGS LIKE
02:01:53PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:01:53PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
02:01:55PM GIVEN THE NEED IDEAL IDEALISTICALLY -- OR IDEALLY FOR THE
02:02:02PM NEED OF A GROCERY STORE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FROM
02:02:07PM THE CCAC, THERE COULD BE A WAY FORWARD OF COUNCIL IF CERTAIN
02:02:11PM THINGS WERE CHANGED.
02:02:12PM FOR EXAMPLE, ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING
02:02:15PM THAT COUNCIL IS STRESSING.
02:02:17PM MAYBE IF THAT WOULD BE A PART OF IT, JUST GIVING YOU AN
02:02:22PM IDEA.
02:02:22PM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ANYBODY ELSE, BUT, AGAIN, THERE IS
02:02:25PM A WAY FORWARD ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS GIVEN WHAT YOU ARE
02:02:28PM TRYING TO DO THAT IS MY OPINION AND I AM JUST TRYING TO PUT
02:02:34PM THAT OUT THERE.
02:02:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER, MIRANDA.
02:02:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
02:02:39PM 80% TAX REBATE OF AD VALOREM TAXES.
02:02:42PM WE ARE THE CRA TODAY.
02:02:44PM AND THAT 80% IS NOT THE CRA BUT CITY COUNCIL ISSUE.
02:02:49PM DOES STAFF KNOW IF THERE IS ANY REBATE GIVEN TO ANYBODY FOR
02:02:52PM ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
02:02:57PM 80% OF AD VALOREM TAX.
02:02:59PM THIS IS A CITY ITEM.
02:03:01PM NOT A CRA ITEM BECAUSE NOW IT IS INTERMINGLED WITH A CRA
02:03:05PM ITEM IN MY OPINION.
02:03:09PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK IN ESSENCE HOW PAUL THIS WILL WORK
02:03:13PM IF YOU APPROVE IT, THE TIF, THE INCREMENTS, COMES TO THE CRA
02:03:17PM TO SPEND.
02:03:18PM WE WOULD THEN -- WE WOULD THEN ESSENTIALLY TRANSFER IT OVER
02:03:22PM TO THEM.
02:03:26PM WE ARE DEALING WITH AN INCREMENT YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER.
02:03:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYONE HERE LATELY THAT RECEIVED
02:03:32PM SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
02:03:33PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO, WE HAVE NOT DONE DEALS LIKE THIS.
02:03:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T RECALL ANY.
02:03:37PM THAT'S WHY I AM BRINGING IT UP FOR OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND
02:03:42PM CRAS HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:03:45PM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
02:03:47PM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:03:49PM FUNDING MECHANISM AND WILL BE 80% OF WHAT THEIR PROJECT CUT
02:03:54PM RATES THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR PERCENTAGE OF REBATED.
02:03:58PM THIS IS CORRECT, A NEW FUNDING MECHANISM TAKEN A BEST
02:04:03PM PRACTICE.
02:04:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 80% IS NOT CONSTANT.
02:04:09PM BUT IF THE VALUE COMES UP, 80% OF THAT VALUE.
02:04:13PM >> THIS DEAL IS -- IT IS A HARD NUMBER.
02:04:16PM ONCE THEY MEET THAT 9.9, THEN THE AGREEMENT --
02:04:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
02:04:23PM >>ERICA MOODY: YES, SIR.
02:04:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
02:04:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST.
02:04:30PM YOU SAID IF YOU CAN BUILD IT WITHOUT CRA SUPPORT, AND YOU
02:04:33PM SAID YES.
02:04:33PM >> NO, NO, ONLY THE MULTIFAMILY COULD BE BUILT -- SORRY, THE
02:04:37PM MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, THAT WHOLE -- SORRY.
02:04:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:04:41PM THAT MAKES BETTER SENSE.
02:04:42PM BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW -- SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THOUGH,
02:04:45PM THAT THE PROJECT WON'T BE BUILT IF WE DON'T GIVE YOU HAVE $9
02:04:49PM MILLION FOR THE GROCERY STORE.
02:04:50PM >> THE GROCERY STORE AND THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING ARE NOT
02:04:54PM UNDERWRITABLE OR FINANCEABLE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF WAY TO
02:04:58PM MAKE IT WORK.
02:04:59PM SO THE RISK THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW -- THAT THE LAND GETS
02:05:04PM TRANSACTED BACK TO THAT AND GOES TO A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
02:05:09PM A NOT-FOR-PROFIT GROCERY STORE.
02:05:12PM AND IF IT DOES GET BUILT, THEN THE MULTIFAMILY WHICH WILL BE
02:05:16PM MARKET BUT ALSO AFFORDABLE PENDING WHATEVER WE GO GET
02:05:20PM THROUGH ON A CVA IF WE GET THERE WILL GENERATE TAXES IN
02:05:25PM PERPETUITY BEYOND THE INCREMENT THAT IS GRANTED IF IT IS FOR
02:05:28PM THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND GROCER.
02:05:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SAY OVERALL HOW YOU STRUCTURE IT IS
02:05:36PM CONCERNING.
02:05:36PM BEFORE YOU CAME TO US, YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD A WAY TO MAKE
02:05:40PM THIS GO FORWARD IF WE WERE NOT GOING TO APPROVE THE $9
02:05:44PM MILLION.
02:05:44PM THE PEOPLE BEFORE YOU WERE LIKE, WE WILL BUILD IT ANYWAY.
02:05:47PM >> THE MULTIFAMILY IS BUILDABLE ANYWAY.
02:05:51PM THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND THE GROCER -- IF YOU GUYS
02:05:56PM WANT IT THERE AND WE GET APPROVED IN SOME WAY THAT WE CAN
02:05:58PM WORK TOGETHER, IT WILL GET BUILT.
02:06:01PM IF NOT -- WHICH SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE IT IS NOT WANTED THERE,
02:06:04PM THEN IT WILL JUST BE A MULTIFAMILY.
02:06:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT YOU HAVE TO BUILD.
02:06:08PM >> IT JUST WOULDN'T BE BUILT BY US.
02:06:12PM >> CAN GO BACK TO THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY WHICH IN THAT
02:06:15PM CASE MAY BECOME A NONPROFIT, NO INCREMENT SITUATION.
02:06:18PM >> WHICH I THINK THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR DEVELOPMENTS THERE
02:06:21PM THAT ARE NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
02:06:23PM AND ALSO A SMALL NOTE, IT CREATES PARALLEL INCREMENT FOR THE
02:06:31PM CRA.
02:06:31PM NOT 100% INCREMENT THAT GETS PAID OFF.
02:06:34PM DOESN'T MATCH WHAT IS GENERATED THIS YEAR AND FAIRLY CLOSE.
02:06:37PM AND IN THAT POINT IN TIME, IT WILL STILL HAVE A GOOD
02:06:40PM COMMUNITY BEN.
02:06:42PM WE DIDN'T WANT ANY COMMUNITY MONEY OR NO GRANTS.
02:06:46PM IF THE PROJECT FAILS, NOTHING -- YOU GUYS DIDN'T FUND
02:06:49PM ANYTHING OR REBATE ANYTHING.
02:06:50PM AND SO THE STRUCTURE THAT IS TODAY HAS NO RISK FROM THE
02:06:55PM CITY.
02:06:56PM IF IT DOESN'T FINISH, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
02:07:00PM IF IT DOES AND SUCCESSFUL THROUGH THE CVA, THAT IS WHERE THE
02:07:04PM INCREMENT WILL BE DIVIDED.
02:07:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND QUESTION FOR STAFF.
02:07:09PM THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL PARK CRA, CORRECT?
02:07:13PM >> YES.
02:07:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE CENTRAL
02:07:17PM PARK CRA IS $1 MILLION FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME?
02:07:22PM >> CORRECT.
02:07:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:07:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
02:07:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: REAL QUESTION FOR STAFF.
02:07:30PM I DON'T LIKE THIS FUNDING MECHANISM.
02:07:32PM I KNOW OF THIS FUNDING MECHANISM THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES AND
02:07:36PM I THINK IT IS A TERRIBLE CHOICE.
02:07:38PM NOT THAT THE DEVELOPER'S MONEY WE ARE GIVING BACK TO THEM
02:07:42PM BUT THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY, AND UNFAIR TO GIVE TO ONE
02:07:48PM DEVELOPER OVER ANOTHER.
02:07:49PM WE NEED TO SPECIFY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF A SPECIFIC THING
02:07:54PM NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY AND PAY FOR THAT.
02:07:56PM BUT WE SHOULD NEVER -- I AM ONLY ONE OF SEVEN, BUT WE SHOULD
02:07:59PM NEVER LEAD THE PUBLIC TO THINK WE ARE NOT TAKING THEIR
02:08:03PM MONEY.
02:08:03PM BECAUSE LIKE -- LIKE BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID, SOMEONE
02:08:07PM WILL DEVELOP ALL THESE PROPERTIES AND SOMEONE WILL COME IN.
02:08:11PM THE PEOPLE FRUSTRATED -- THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WHY NOT
02:08:15PM BENEFITTING FROM THE TAXES AT WATER STREET BECAUSE IT IS
02:08:19PM TRAPPED IN THE CRA DISTRICT.
02:08:20PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY AND THINK ABOUT THIS
02:08:22PM DIFFERENTLY.
02:08:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE?
02:08:27PM >> YES, COUNCILWOMAN, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADDRESS A COUPLE
02:08:30PM OF THE COMMENTS THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE MADE.
02:08:32PM THE REASON THE PATEL FAMILY OFFICE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPED THIS
02:08:37PM PROJECT IN THE MANNER IT DID IS BECAUSE OF THE REQUESTS MADE
02:08:40PM BY NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS OF THE CENTRAL PARK DISTRICT BUT
02:08:45PM ALSO THE ENCORE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
02:08:47PM I MEAN, IT IS MEANT TO BE A MIXED USE DISTRICT.
02:08:51PM IT IS MEANT TO GO PAST THE OLDER ONES OF PROJECT BASED HOUSING.
02:08:57PM IT IS MEANT TO CREATE A TAX BASE.
02:09:00PM SO THE PATEL FAMILY OFFICE WANTED TO BE A DEVELOPER TO
02:09:04PM PROVIDE THOSE TWO KEY COMMUNITY ASSET BENEFITS THAT HAVE
02:09:08PM BEEN ASKED ABOUT FOR DECADES NOW.
02:09:10PM AND YES, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, EASY TO SAY A DEVELOPER WILL
02:09:19PM COME BY AND DO IT AND A REASON NO DEVELOPER HAS AS OF YET
02:09:23PM AND NOW YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO IS VERY WILLING TO FINALLY
02:09:27PM DELIVER WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED FOR BY THE RESIDENTS FOR SO
02:09:30PM LONG.
02:09:30PM COMMUNITY HEALTH AND GROCER.
02:09:33PM EASY TO SAY, WELL, THEY HAVE A GROCER IN CHANNELSIDE AND
02:09:38PM NOT, BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT NEED THAT QUICK ACCESS
02:09:42PM GROCERY.
02:09:42PM AND I DO BELIEVE BASED ON THE TYPE OF GROCER THAT IS COMING
02:09:49PM IN COMPLEMENT MEACHAM, THE URBAN FARM AND NOT TAKE AWAY AND
02:09:54PM COMPETE.
02:09:54PM SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE WERE HOPING TO GET THIS BOARD'S
02:10:00PM SUPPORT.
02:10:00PM AGAIN, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR UP FRONT MONEY.
02:10:05PM THIS REBATE GOES INTO EFFECT ONCE ITS PROJECT GETS DEVELOPED
02:10:08PM AND ONCE ALL THE TAXES GET PAID AND AN ACCRETIVE EFFECT FOR
02:10:13PM YOU AND A RETURN ON THAT ESSENTIAL REBATE THAT WOULD COME
02:10:16PM THROUGH.
02:10:16PM >> THE MEDICAL OFFICE AND THE ACCESS TO WOMEN'S HEALTH,
02:10:24PM PEDIATRICS, GERIATRICS.
02:10:26PM A HUGE PIECE OF IT.
02:10:28PM MY HOPE IS THAT YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A PATH FORWARD, WE CAN
02:10:33PM WORK ON IT WHETHER THROUGH CPA.
02:10:42PM I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
02:10:45PM >> I BELIEVE THE TWO PORTIONS, THE GROCER AND MEDICAL, THAT
02:10:50PM IS IN ESSENCE COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITY NEEDS.
02:10:52PM THOSE TYPE OF SOCIAL IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS IS -- IS WHAT THE
02:10:59PM CRA SHOULD HELP SUPPORT AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE ARE
02:11:01PM SEEKING THIS ASSISTANCE TODAY.
02:11:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
02:11:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REALLY THE PROBLEM IS, 8% OF THE TIF YOU
02:11:15PM ARE TAKE BACK.
02:11:15PM THE CITY IS STILL PROVIDING SERVICES AND ONLY 20% IS LEFT.
02:11:19PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS ENOUGH TO COVER THE COST OF
02:11:21PM PROVIDING SERVICES TO THESE UNITS.
02:11:22PM I -- IS IT -- IS IT?
02:11:25PM I DON'T KNOW.
02:11:26PM I DON'T KNOW THE COST OF PREUNIT IS -- TO PROVIDE BASIC CITY
02:11:30PM SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE RESCUE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
02:11:32PM WE KNOW WE HAVE NEEDS IN ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS.
02:11:35PM WE ARE ADDING RESIDENTS.
02:11:37PM SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES AND 80% IS AT
02:11:41PM THAT BIG CHUNK TO FRONT LOAD AS FAR AS A REIMBURSEMENT
02:11:45PM AGREEMENT.
02:11:45PM >> TOTALLY WORTH TALKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO WORK OUT
02:11:49PM TOGETHER.
02:11:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S -- I AM NOT SHUTTING THE DOOR.
02:11:52PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND I LIKE THE MIXED
02:11:56PM DEVELOPMENT.
02:11:56PM BECAUSE I AM AGAINST THE FORMER MODEL OF INSTITUTIONALIZING
02:12:01PM ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE IN ONE AREA.
02:12:02PM SO HAVING MIXED NORTH CAROLINA AND HAVING MIXED DEVELOPMENT
02:12:07PM AND I THINK IT PROVIDES -- ESPECIALLY WITH RAISING KIDS IN
02:12:10PM AREAS, YOU HAVE DO THE THAT DIVERSITY OF EVERYBODY LIVING IN
02:12:13PM THE SAME AREA.
02:12:13PM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
02:12:14PM I AM NOT OPPOSED IT SHALL I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS SCOPE AND
02:12:18PM SCALE OF THE PROJECT, I THINK IT IS GREAT.
02:12:20PM AGAIN, I WILL GIVE TESTIMONY TO THE FAMILY OF WHAT THEY ARE
02:12:24PM LOOKING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
02:12:26PM I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT ON THE BACKS OF ALL THE OTHER
02:12:29PM TAXPAYERS AND PUT A DISPROPORTIONATE.
02:12:33PM 80% TIF, FRONT LOADED.
02:12:36PM SEEMS LIKE A VERY HIGH MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB.
02:12:38PM >> IT IS BACK LOADED.
02:12:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN?
02:12:42PM >> BACK LOADED.
02:12:42PM SO BASICALLY UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE BUILDING IS BUILT --
02:12:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND, BUT ONCE WE START PROVIDING
02:12:48PM SERVICES TO ALL THESE PEOPLE, WE ARE STILL -- SOMEBODY HAS
02:12:51PM TO PAY FOR ALL THESE SERVICES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING
02:12:54PM THERE.
02:12:54PM AND I DON'T THINK THE 20% WILL PAY FOR YOUR POLICE, FIRE,
02:12:59PM SEWAGE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE
02:13:01PM CITY TO PROVIDE FOR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY.
02:13:05PM SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO PAY FOR IT.
02:13:07PM >> I THINK ONLY THE CRA INCREMENT.
02:13:10PM ONLY RELATED TO THE CRA PORTION OF THE AD VALOREM TAXES.
02:13:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHICH IS ALL THE TAXES FOR THE CITY.
02:13:16PM THAT IS ALL WE GET.
02:13:18PM THAT IS ALL THE MONEY.
02:13:19PM ALL THE CITY SERVICES, SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO PAY FOR IT.
02:13:23PM AT THAT 80%, THAT PERCENTAGE IS A REALLY -- TOUGH THING TO
02:13:27PM OVERCOME FOR ME.
02:13:28PM >> THANK YOU.
02:13:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I ALSO -- I AGREE
02:13:35PM WITH COUNCILMEMBER -- SORRY, BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN THAT
02:13:39PM THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE END OF THE
02:13:42PM CONVERSATION, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EMPTY STOREFRONTS IN
02:13:45PM ENCORE THAT CAN HOUSE BOTH MEDICAL AND A GROCER IF NEEDED.
02:13:50PM SO I AM -- THIS -- THIS PAIRING, THIS GROUPING MAY NOT WORK
02:13:58PM NOW, BUT RECONFIGURING IF YOU COULD COME BACK AND MAYBE WORK
02:14:03PM SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.
02:14:05PM FIT A GROCER IN SOME OTHER WAY IF YOU NEEDED TO IF THAT IS
02:14:10PM YOUR MANDATE.
02:14:11PM BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED RIGHT
02:14:16PM NOW WORKS FOR THE CRA.
02:14:18PM >> BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON -- THERE
02:14:22PM IS A LOT OF STOREFRONTS IN ENCORE.
02:14:24PM AND WE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
02:14:26PM WE WENT THROUGH A THOROUGH PROCESS WITH THE CAC AND SPENT
02:14:33PM THE WHOLE DAY INTERVIEWING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ASKING
02:14:36PM THEM WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WANT.
02:14:37PM THE LAST THING WE WANTED TO DO WAS GO TO CAC AND PROPOSE
02:14:41PM SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY NEEDED.
02:14:43PM THAT IS NOT OUR PURPOSE IN THIS.
02:14:45PM DR. PATEL STANDS TO MAKE NO MONEY FROM THIS $9.9 MILLION.
02:14:50PM GOES TOWARD INCENTIVIZING GETTING THE RIGHT TENANTS IN PLACE
02:14:55PM TO SERVE THAT COMMUNITY.
02:14:56PM YOU MENTIONED A GROCERY STORE COULD BE GOING INTO A
02:14:59PM DIFFERENT PART OF THAT COMMUNITY WITH.
02:15:01PM BUT WHAT WE HAD TO DO WAS VERY METHODICALLY TO GET A
02:15:06PM FULL-SERVICE GROCERY STORE.
02:15:07PM I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD MENTIONED THIS IS A GRAB
02:15:11PM AND GO CONCEPT.
02:15:12PM A FULL-FLEDGED GROCERY STORE CLOSE TO 30,000 FEET.
02:15:21PM THE EVERY SINGLE SERVICE THAT A GROCERY STORE WILL HAVE.
02:15:25PM IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT INSIDE OF ENCORE, YOU NEED A FULL
02:15:29PM LOADING DOCK THAT CAN BRING IN THE SEMI TRUCK AND GROCERIES.
02:15:33PM NOT ANY CURRENTLY BUILT OUT RETAIL WITHIN ENCORE THAT COULD
02:15:37PM EVER SUPPORT THAT.
02:15:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE
02:15:40PM BEFORE YOU IN LOT 10?
02:15:41PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HUGE -- THEY SAID THEY ARE BRINGING IN
02:15:46PM MASSIVE RETAIL WHICH COULD EASILY FIT THAT SPACE.
02:15:49PM I AM JUST SAYING -- I AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE THAT POINT.
02:15:52PM I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS.
02:15:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
02:16:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
02:16:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL RESPECT TO THE PATEL FAMILY.
02:16:05PM AS I SAID GREAT PEOPLE.
02:16:07PM TO QUOTE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM THIS MORNING, OFFER MADE.
02:16:11PM OFFER REJECTED IS MY PROPOSAL.
02:16:13PM MY MOTION -- IF YOU WATCH "PAWN STARS" SOMETIMES THEY SAY WE
02:16:19PM ARE JUST TOO FAR OFF.
02:16:20PM IF YOU COME BACK WITH $9.5 MILLION, MY ANSWER WILL BE THE
02:16:26PM SAME.
02:16:27PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE FOLKS.
02:16:29PM TO ME THIS IS REALLY FAR OFF.
02:16:30PM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY NEEDS TO STEP
02:16:33PM UP.
02:16:34PM THEY NEED TO DIVERSIFY THAN WORKING WITH ONE OR TWO
02:16:37PM DEVELOPERS AND DIVERSIFY WORKING WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS.
02:16:39PM SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS ITEM NUMBER 4.
02:16:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
02:16:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER
02:16:48PM CARLSON.
02:16:48PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
02:16:51PM ANY DISCUSSION?
02:16:52PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
02:16:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST TO FOLLOW MY CONCURRENT OPINION ON THIS
02:16:56PM WHICH IS, THE MOTION APPEARS TO BE MADE AS A REJECTION OF
02:16:59PM THE PROJECT AND ANY IDEAS AND ANYTHING NEAR TO IT.
02:17:05PM I -- I AM OF THE VIEW -- AGAIN, I AM NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYONE
02:17:08PM ELSE BUT I AM READING AT LEAST TWO OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS UP
02:17:11PM HERE THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR A SEQUEL, RIGHT, WITH SOME
02:17:14PM MODIFICATIONS TO IT.
02:17:16PM I AM CERTAINLY PART OF THAT.
02:17:17PM SO THAT IS -- AGAIN, THAT SUPPORTS MY VOTE.
02:17:20PM IF THE CHAIR WANTS YOU TO SAY ANYTHING.
02:17:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:17:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TAMPA HOUSING
02:17:29PM AUTHORITY BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
02:17:31PM BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO BE A CRITICALLY MISSING
02:17:34PM ELEMENT.
02:17:34PM AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, SO I WILL YIELD THE
02:17:38PM FLOOR.
02:17:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ATTORNEY MASSEY, WHEN WE HAVE A MOTION ON
02:17:41PM THE FLOOR, DO WE ALLOW DISCUSSION FROM -- JUST CURIOUS.
02:17:45PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
02:17:47PM SO IF YOU CHOSE TO ALLOW --
02:17:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: REBUTTAL.
02:17:52PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SOMEBODY TO SPEAK FROM THE BOARD, IT IS UP
02:17:55PM TO THE CHAIR TO ALLOW THAT.
02:17:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN HAVE PART OF MY FIVE MINUTES.
02:18:00PM >> IF ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF CONTINUANCE AND WE
02:18:04PM CAN FIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING --
02:18:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS NOT A CLOSED DOOR.
02:18:08PM ON THIS MOTION THAT YOU BROUGHT BEFORE US, WITH THE MOTION
02:18:11PM ON THE FLOOR AND SECONDED.
02:18:12PM WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
02:18:13PM WHAT THAT DOES IS SAY NO TO THIS.
02:18:16PM DOESN'T SAY NO TO EVERYTHING.
02:18:18PM >> WHAT I WILL SAY AT THE END OF JANUARY, WE LOSE CONTROL OF
02:18:21PM IT BACK TO THA.
02:18:22PM SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT THERE AS WELL.
02:18:26PM IT WILL BE A NOT-FOR-PROFIT AGAIN.
02:18:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN'T HELP THAT, SORRY.
02:18:32PM >> I WILL OFFER THE REASON WE ARE HERE TODAY AND COULDN'T
02:18:35PM WITHDRAW THE REQUEST IS ONCE THIS GETS -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU
02:18:41PM -- IF YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY, THEN CONTROL
02:18:46PM GOES BACK TO TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
02:18:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:18:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD TWO --
02:18:59PM [INAUDIBLE]
02:18:59PM -- ON BOTH OF THEM.
02:19:00PM THE ONE THREE AND FOUR.
02:19:02PM AND THERE HAS BEEN NO OTHER DEVELOPERS, NO OTHER REQUEST FOR
02:19:06PM PROPOSALS, NO OTHER RFQ, NO RFP, NOTHING.
02:19:11PM WE ARE USED TO THAT PROCESS.
02:19:13PM THIS WE ARE NOT USED TO IN MY OPINION.
02:19:15PM I NEVER HAD ONE IN ALL YEARS OF SERVICE.
02:19:17PM TAKE IT OR REJECT IT.
02:19:19PM TAKE IT OR REJECT WHAT?
02:19:21PM >> THE DEAL WAS DONE BETWEEN YOURSELF AND TAMPA HOUSING
02:19:23PM AUTHORITY, NOT US.
02:19:25PM >> AGREED.
02:19:26PM >> WE DIDN'T OWN THE LAND.
02:19:28PM THEY OWNED THE LAND.
02:19:29PM LET THEM HANDLE IT.
02:19:31PM >> THANK YOU.
02:19:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER
02:19:36PM CARLSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:19:38PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:19:39PM OPPOSED?
02:19:39PM MOTION CARRIES.
02:19:40PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
02:19:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON ITEM NUMBER 5 -- WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 5,
02:19:52PM I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF.
02:19:54PM I HAVE A -- I HAVE -- NO.
02:19:58PM BUT I HAVE A FORM 8-B I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
02:20:04PM RECEIVE AND FILE AND I NEED TO READ IT.
02:20:06PM THE FIRM OF WHICH I AM RETAINED IS WORKING WITH A CLIENT
02:20:09PM THAT IS RELATED TO THIS ITEM.
02:20:10PM ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT WORKING ON THIS ITEM AND WE DO NOT WORK
02:20:14PM ON PROJECTS RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS, I AM ABSTAINING IN AN
02:20:17PM ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AS TO NOT CREATE AN APPEARANCE OF BIAS.
02:20:21PM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:20:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:20:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS SOON AS WE VOTE ON THAT.
02:20:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A RECUSAL FORM FROM BOARD MEMBER
02:20:33PM CARLSON.
02:20:33PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:20:35PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:20:35PM OPPOSED.
02:20:36PM MOTION CARRIES.
02:20:37PM WE WILL MISS YOU.
02:20:38PM I WONDER IF I WILL EVER HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF?
02:20:49PM I DON'T KNOW.
02:20:49PM I DON'T ROLL IN THESE CIRCLES LIKE YOU DO.
02:20:52PM OH, YOU HAD TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
02:20:54PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF THEY ARE READY.
02:21:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
02:21:03PM TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART PRESENTATION.
02:21:16PM HELLO, EVERYONE
02:21:17PM >> YES, MA'AM.
02:21:19PM WE ARE ON ITEM 5.
02:21:20PM TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART.
02:21:21PM THEY ARE HERE TO PRESENT THEIR PROJECT AS WELL ASK FOR THE
02:21:26PM CRA'S SUPPORT.
02:21:26PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING DR. TOMER AND HIS COLLEAGUES TO
02:21:32PM PRESENT THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART.
02:21:33PM THE CRA HAS COMMITTED $14.75 MILLION TO THIS PROJECT AND
02:21:37PM THIS IS A RECAP OF THE PROJECT WITH AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING
02:21:40PM REQUEST.
02:21:40PM SO I WILL PASS IT OVER FOR NOW.
02:21:45PM >> THANK YOU, MISS MOODY.
02:21:46PM I AM MICHAEL TOMER, AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA
02:21:50PM MUSEUM OF ART, AND I WOULD LIKE MY COLLEAGUES TO INTRODUCE
02:21:54PM THEMSELVES.
02:21:54PM THE INCOMING PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART
02:21:57PM FOUNDATION.
02:21:58PM >> CHRISTINE PHILLIPS.
02:21:59PM >> AND --
02:22:02PM >> SANDY MURMAN.
02:22:04PM >> THIS IS OUR BUILDING COMMITTEE CHAIR.
02:22:06PM >> HI, AL FLOWERS.
02:22:10PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO VISIT IS WITH US
02:22:13PM AGAIN.
02:22:13PM FEELS ONLY YESTERDAY THAT WE WERE TALKING TO YOU ALL ABOUT
02:22:16PM THIS SAME PROJECT THREE YEARS AGO.
02:22:18PM AND A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN THREE YEARS.
02:22:20PM AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INITIAL SUPPORT.
02:22:22PM AND LET YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT HAS
02:22:27PM HAPPENED SINCE WE MADE OUR PRESENTATION IS A $40% INCREASE
02:22:30PM IN COST OF PROJECT DUE TO TRADE COST INFLATION.
02:22:35PM WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR AN ADDITIONAL
02:22:42PM $10 MILLION AT THE TIME WE PRESENTED A $80 MILLION PROJECT
02:22:46PM WHICH IS NOW RUNNING BETWEEN $110 MILLION TO $115 MILLION.
02:22:49PM SINCE THEN WE HAVE ALSO DONE EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY TO
02:22:53PM RAISE ADDITIONAL PRIVATE FUNDS TO REACH THOSE GOALS.
02:22:56PM I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
02:22:57PM I JUST CLICKED SOMETHING THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE.
02:23:00PM ALL RIGHT.
02:23:01PM SO JUST AS A REMINDER THAT THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT
02:23:05PM HAPPENED RECENTLY.
02:23:06PM THIS GOES BACK TO A 25017 STRATEGIC PLAN.
02:23:09PM WE DID A SPACE ANALYSIS ON THE EXISTING BUILDING WE DID A
02:23:16PM CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN IN 2019.
02:23:19PM WE STARTED OUR RENOVATION CONSTRUCTION IN 2021 AND CLOSED
02:23:23PM OUT THAT PROJECT AFTER $15 MILLION INVESTMENT ON 25,000
02:23:30PM SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING SPACE.
02:23:31PM AND WE ARE THEN LOOKING NOW AT THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS
02:23:35PM THAT ARE REFLECTING THE INCREASE IN COST FOR SITE
02:23:39PM REDEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN FUNDAMENTALLY ON 70 -- CLOSE TO
02:23:46PM 75,000 SQUARE FEET FROM HIXON PARK ALL THE WAY FROM THE MARK
02:23:51PM TO CASS STREET AND INCLUSION OF GASPARILLA PLAZA AND
02:23:55PM MANATEES ATTACHED TO POE PARKING GARAGE.
02:24:02PM THE RENOVATION HAVE ALLOWED A HIGHLY VISIBLE EDUCATION
02:24:06PM CENTER.
02:24:06PM QUADRUPLED THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE EDUCATION
02:24:10PM SUITE ONBOARDED.
02:24:11PM A NUMBER OF STUDENTS WE SAW IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR HAD
02:24:17PM QUADRUPLED FROM THREE YEARS AGO, 134,500 STUDENTS.
02:24:21PM LOOK FOR AN ADDITIONAL 15,000 STUDENTS IN IF THE EXISTING
02:24:26PM YEAR AND RESULT OF THE PHYSICAL EDUCATION SPACE AND SIMPLY
02:24:29PM MORE PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MORE OF OUR EDUCATION
02:24:31PM PROGRAMS.
02:24:32PM 100% OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC WITH THE
02:24:38PM EXCEPTION OF OUR STUDIO ART PROGRAMS, 50% OF WHICH ARE
02:24:43PM PROVIDED TO OUR STUDENT POPULATION THROUGH SCHOLARSHIPS AND
02:24:47PM PARTNERSHIPS AND THROUGH OUR SUCCESSFUL PHILANTHROPY IN
02:24:52PM PROVIDING THESE THINGS.
02:24:54PM SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHAT THIS MEANT ON INCREASE, WE
02:24:57PM SERVICED 420 REGISTRANTS TO OUR SUMMER CAMPS AND CLASSES
02:25:03PM VERSES TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT WHEN WE TALKED WITH YOU, ONLY
02:25:07PM 112.
02:25:07PM OUR FAMILY DAYS HAVE ALMOST INCREASED TO 1500 PARTICIPANTS
02:25:11PM FROM 400.
02:25:12PM WE HAVE CLASSES YEAR ROUND FOR ADULTS AND KIDS AND SEARCHING
02:25:15PM AT SEVEN LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
02:25:17PM AND THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE INCREASED OUR CLASSROOM SPACE
02:25:21PM AND CREATED EDUCATION LOBBY SPACE.
02:25:24PM WE JUST COMPLETED THE RENOVATION OF GALLERY SPACE ON THE
02:25:27PM SECOND FLOOR AND FIRST FLOOR WHICH ALMOST DOUBLED THE NUMBER
02:25:31PM OF GALLERIES WE ARE OFFERING.
02:25:34PM WENT FROM 14,500 TO 32,000 SQUARE FEET AND OFFERING 14
02:25:39PM EXHIBITS A YEAR, BETTER REACHING THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR
02:25:43PM COMMUNITY.
02:25:43PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PUT OUT OUR PERMANENT COLLECTION
02:25:49PM MORE OFTEN.
02:25:49PM ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT COLLECTION OF GREEK AND ROMAN
02:25:52PM ART IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY OF WHICH THE
02:25:55PM CITY OF TAMPA INVESTED IN 1986 TO HELP US PURCHASE ALONG
02:25:58PM WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND PRIVATE SECTOR FUNDING.
02:26:01PM WONDERFUL EXHIBITS THAT HAVE BEEN IN STORAGE ARE NOW ON
02:26:05PM VIEW.
02:26:06PM AND WE NOW HAVE A WONDERFUL 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT GALLERY SPACE
02:26:11PM DEDICATED TO TRAVELING EXHIBITIONS LIKE THE IMPRESSIONISM
02:26:15PM EXHIBITS THAT YOU JUST SAW.
02:26:16PM THIS IS NOW -- I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THE
02:26:20PM SITE REDEVELOPMENT.
02:26:21PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF CURTIS HIXON
02:26:26PM PARK EXTENDING ALL THE WAY TO CASS STREET.
02:26:28PM DOING A FULL REDEVELOPMENT OF CURRENTLY UNUSABLE PARK SPACE
02:26:32PM FOR PUBLIC PROGRAMMING AND TURNING IT INTO PUBLIC
02:26:35PM PROGRAMMING SPACE.
02:26:35PM A PART OF OUR PROJECT.
02:26:37PM BUT THIS IS A CITY INVESTMENT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.
02:26:40PM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR FUNDS TOWARD THE BUILDING ITSELF.
02:26:45PM WE ARE ASKING FOR FUNDS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK
02:26:47PM AND TO REMOVE URBAN BLIGHT ALONG CASS STREET AND BRING THE
02:26:51PM PARK ALL THE WAY TO THE CORRIDOR.
02:26:52PM SO IN AN IMAGE LIKE THIS, WHERE YOU ARE SEEING AN EXPANSION,
02:26:57PM YOU ARE LOOKING AT A BRAND-NEW SOUTH PUBLIC PARK -- --
02:27:01PM EXCUSE ME, SOUTH PUBLIC PLAZA THAT WILL BE DESIGNED FOR
02:27:04PM PUBLIC SCULPTURE FROM OUR COLLECTION, AND ALSO AN
02:27:08PM INDOOR-OUTDOOR RESTAURANT, A TWO-STORY SECOND-FLOOR SPACE
02:27:12PM AND A FOURTH-STORY SCULPTURE TERRACE TO ACCOMMODATE
02:27:18PM EDUCATION SPACE AND A SLOPING FLOOR AUDITORIUM.
02:27:22PM THIS IS THE AUDITORIUM THAT WILL HOLD 150 PEOPLE.
02:27:25PM IT WILL IMPROVE AND ALLOW US TO EXPAND OUR EDUCATIONAL
02:27:28PM PROGRAMMING TO FILM AND CINEMA, BUT ALSO GIVES US AN
02:27:32PM OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER OUR VERY ROBUST RELATIONSHIPS WITH
02:27:36PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY
02:27:38PM COLLEGE, AS WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY OF IS THERE.
02:27:41PM INFORMAL EDUCATION SITTING.
02:27:45PM THE LOBBY ON THE SECOND FLOOR WILL OPEN UP INTO AN
02:27:47PM OPPORTUNITY FOR A 40-FOOT-LONG, 32-FOOT-HIGH DIGITAL
02:27:52PM EXHIBITION EXPERIENCE, THE LARGEST OF ITS TYPE IN FLORIDA
02:27:56PM AND ATTRACTED FOR TOURISTS AS WELL OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
02:27:58PM THAT ALLOWS US TO EXPAND OUR EXHIBITION PROGRAMMING.
02:28:03PM WHEN IT IS NOT USED FOR NOSE PURPOSES -- YOU WELL, LET ME
02:28:07PM SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE MUSEUM OF MODERN ART IN NEW YORK
02:28:09PM TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA SO IT WASN'T JUST AN ANIMATION.
02:28:13PM THIS IS THE WORK AT THE MUSEUM OF MODERN ART NOW.
02:28:16PM WE WILL BE BRINGING IN EXHIBITIONS LIKE THIS ON THE SECOND
02:28:19PM FLOOR, ATTRACTIVE TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL AS THOSE THAT
02:28:23PM ARE VISITING FROM OUT OF THE AREA.
02:28:25PM AND IT WILL BE THE LARGEST OF ITS TYPE IN FLORIDA.
02:28:28PM THAT SAME ROOM FOR THAT TYPE OF EXHIBITION PROGRAM WILL
02:28:31PM OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY TO FILL A GAP IN OUR COMMUNITY
02:28:34PM PROGRAMMING FOR PRIVATE EVENTS.
02:28:36PM AND LARGE FUND RAISING EVENTS THAT WE DO.
02:28:39PM A COMMISSARY WILL OPEN UP INTO A 500-SEATED DINNER
02:28:44PM EXPERIENCE WITH THE GREATEST VIEWS IN SOUTH TAMPA TO TAKE
02:28:48PM ADVANTAGE OF OUR LANDSCAPE AND THE RIVERWALK AND REALLY MAKE
02:28:51PM THIS PROJECT VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE
02:28:56PM NEEDS.
02:28:56PM THE FOURTH FLOOR WILL -- WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO
02:29:00PM EXPAND OUR EDUCATION PROGRAM TO CULINARY ARTS AND WILLS HAVE
02:29:04PM A PUBLIC SCULPTURE TERRACE ON THE FOURTH FLOOR FOR EVENTS
02:29:07PM AND ALSO FOR ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOW ART.
02:29:10PM SO THE AREA THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON WITH YOU ALL AND THE
02:29:14PM FUNDS WE ARE LOOKING AT IS SPECIFICALLY IN THE AREA ON THE
02:29:17PM SCREEN THAT ARE DOTTED IN RED.
02:29:18PM THIS IS THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT AND AREA REQUEST OF CURTIS
02:29:22PM HIXON PARK THAT IS COMPLETE UNDERDEVELOPED AND CAN'T BE USED
02:29:27PM FOR PUBLIC PROGRAMMING.
02:29:28PM THIS IS IT WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE AT THE MOMENT.
02:29:31PM SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS FOUR FUNCTIONAL AREAS OF
02:29:36PM REDEVELOPMENT.
02:29:36PM A PROPOSED SCULPTURE PARK AND AREA ON THE BLIGHTED AREA
02:29:42PM ALONG CASS STREET IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS SLIDE.
02:29:45PM ON THE WEST SIDE, WEST PLAZA AND PEDESTRIAN AREA WITH A NEW
02:29:51PM DIAGONAL ACCESS POINT OFF THE RIVERWALK TO CASS STREET.
02:29:55PM SOUTHWEST PLAZA, PUBLIC PLAZA.
02:29:59PM THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF SIDEWALKS, PUBLIC ART AND PARTIAL --
02:30:03PM THE CAFE RESTAURANT THAT WILL BE OPENED SEVEN DAY AS WEEK
02:30:07PM FROM THE PUBLIC WITHOUT ADMISSION REQUIREMENTS.
02:30:09PM AND A BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TAKING CARE OF THE
02:30:12PM COMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH GASPARILLA PLAZA.
02:30:15PM SO FOR THOSE -- THOSE THAT KNOW THAT GASPARILLA PLAZA IS NOT
02:30:21PM A STREET, IT IS A CORRIDOR AND MANAGED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:30:25PM PARKS AND RECREATION AND WE NEED TO DO AN IMPROVEMENT ON IS
02:30:31PM THAT AREA AND WE NEED BETTER FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF
02:30:34PM GASPARILLA PLAZA WITHOUT PUTTING OUR PEDESTRIANS AND OUR
02:30:37PM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IN DANGER.
02:30:38PM RIGHT NOW IT IS A VERY TENUOUS SITUATION.
02:30:41PM WE WANT TO MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF THE GARAGE IN A SAFE WAY TO
02:30:44PM THE RIVERWALK BUT ALSO TO OUR MUSEUM.
02:30:48PM AN EXAMPLE OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
02:30:50PM THIS IS ALONG CASS STREET.
02:30:53PM PIECE OF PROPERTY ABANDONED BY THE PARK THAT WILL BE TURNED
02:30:56PM INTO A BEAUTIFUL SCULPTURE PLAZA AND ENTRY WAY INTO THE
02:30:59PM DOWNTOWN AREA FROM CASS STREET ACROSS FROM THE INTERSECTION
02:31:02PM OF STRAZ CENTER.
02:31:04PM THE NEW GASPARILLA PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE A FLASHING
02:31:11PM LIGHT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, ELIMINATING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ON
02:31:16PM THE SOUTH PARDON OF THE PARKING GARAGE AND MOVING TO THE
02:31:19PM NORTH PART SO THEY CAN CROSS SAFELY IN PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND
02:31:22PM CREATING A BRAND-NEW EN TOO HE INTO GASPARILLA PLAZA THAT
02:31:25PM LOOKS VERY SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS BUT DOESN'T NEGLECT THE
02:31:29PM OPPORTUNITY FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IN A VERY SAFE AND
02:31:32PM CONTROLLED MANNER IN OTHER WORDS, ANOTHER GATEWAY TO CURTIS
02:31:40PM HIXON PARK.
02:31:41PM THE AREA THE EXPANSION THEN.
02:31:43PM THE SCULPTURE PLAZA ON THE TOP.
02:31:45PM WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WEST PLAZA.
02:31:48PM UNDERNEATH THIS 90-FOOT CANTILEVERED BUILDING, A SHADE PLAZA
02:31:53PM FOR OUTDOOR SCULPTURE AND OUTSIDE PROGRAMMING NOT JUST FOR
02:31:56PM THE ART MUSEUM BUT CURTIS HIXON PARK AS WELL.
02:32:00PM THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.
02:32:02PM IT IS TAKING RIGHT NOW A GRASSY KNOLL THAT CANNOT FUNCTION
02:32:07PM FOR ANYTHING, AND TURNING IT INTO AN ACTIVE PUBLIC AREA THAT
02:32:10PM CAN BE USED BY THE PUBLIC.
02:32:12PM THIS DIAGONAL ACCESS OF THE RIVERWALK TAKES YOU CLOSER TO
02:32:17PM CASS STREET AND WON'T FEEL UNTIL THE RIVERWALK DEAD-ENDS ON
02:32:21PM THE BRIDGE, AND GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO IT BE ALONG THAT
02:32:25PM ROUTE AND HEAD DIRECTLY EAST IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT THIS
02:32:27PM WILL GIVE YOU ACCESS DIRECTLY TO THE PLAZAS AT THE MUSEUM,
02:32:31PM THE NEW -- THE NEW CAFE, AND THE NEW DIRECT ACCESS TO CASS
02:32:36PM STREET.
02:32:36PM THE FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT AND CAFE PLAZA IS SCHEDULED TO
02:32:43PM BE OPEN FROM 7:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 9:00 AT NIGHT AND
02:32:49PM PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WITH ITS OWN ENTRANCE WITHOUT REQUIRING
02:32:53PM ADMISSION TO THE MUSEUM.
02:32:54PM INDOOR OUTDOOR.
02:32:56PM 40 IN, 40 OUT.
02:32:57PM RESTAURANT CAFE SCENARIO THAT CAN SERVICE UP TO 80 PEOPLE.
02:33:02PM THE IMPACT OF THE EXPANSION ECONOMICALLY IS PRETTY ROBUST.
02:33:05PM WE ARE LOOKING AT A $10 MILLION GROSS REVENUE FOR FOOD AND
02:33:12PM BEVERAGE, LEASING AND RENTING OUR MUSEUM.
02:33:14PM FOR US AT THE MUSEUM A $2.5 MILLION NET TO IT THE
02:33:19PM INSTITUTION.
02:33:19PM WE HAVE NO INTEREST OF BECOMING A FOOD AND BEVERAGE SERVICE.
02:33:22PM THIS WILL ALL BE SUBCONTRACTED.
02:33:23PM BUT YOU LOOK AT THE TYPE OF IMPACT WE ARE LOOK LOOKING AT,
02:33:27PM 360 DAYS OF PROGRAMMING THAT IS STRICTLY OF THE EXPANSION
02:33:32PM IMPACT FOR THE FOOD, BEVERAGE AND RENTAL PIECE.
02:33:36PM HOW DOES IT AFFECT OUR OPERATION AS SOON AS WE ARE LOOKING
02:33:39PM VERY MODESTLY BECAUSE OF THE DIGITAL WALL, OVER 160,000
02:33:44PM VISITORS.
02:33:44PM MOVING OUR BUDGET FROM 2015, $2.5 MILLION TO $9 MILLION
02:33:50PM BUDGET.
02:33:50PM SO WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME?
02:33:55PM BECAUSE RESIDENCES ARE CROPPING OUT OF NORTH DOWNTOWN
02:34:00PM BECAUSE WE ARE HERE.
02:34:01PM BECAUSE THE STRAZ IS HERE.
02:34:03PM BECAUSE THE MUSEUM OF ART IS HERE.
02:34:05PM BECAUSE THE THEATRE IS HERE.
02:34:06PM WE ARE LOOKING AT OVER 4,000 NEW RESIDENTS WITHIN A ONE-MILE
02:34:11PM RADIUS OF OUR MUSEUM.
02:34:12PM THEY ARE COMING DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LIVE AND WORK
02:34:15PM AND PLAY IN THE LOCATION, RIGHT.
02:34:18PM AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT THEY ARE GOING TO EXPECT THE
02:34:23PM TYPE OF SERVICES THAT A LARGER ART MUSEUM CAN PROVIDE BUT
02:34:29PM ALSO THEY WANT PUBLIC SPACES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ABANDONED.
02:34:32PM THEY WANT PUBLIC PARKS AND AMENITIES THEY CAN ACCESS SAFELY
02:34:36PM AND WE CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT BY BEING IN THIS AREA.
02:34:39PM SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN FUNDING.
02:34:45PM WE RAISED $55,500,000.
02:34:50PM $2.3 FROM CORPORATIONS, $20 MILLION OF PUBLIC FUNDING
02:34:54PM INCLUSIVE OF THE FUNDS THAT THE CRA HAS AGREED TO.
02:34:59PM THAT MONEY WILL GO TOWARD THESE PROJECTS, THE CRA MONEY.
02:35:07PM AND WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT 80,000 SQUARE
02:35:10PM FEET OF LAND REDEVELOPMENT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
02:35:13PM WEST PLAZA, SOUTH PLAZA, THE CULTURE ON CASS AND THE NEW DOG
02:35:22PM PARK TO BE DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND REC.
02:35:26PM AND WHAT THAT EQUIVALENT VALUE IS TO MAKE THOSE REDESIGNS
02:35:29PM POSSIBLE.
02:35:30PM $4.4 MILLION FOR THE WEST PLAZA, SOUTH PLAZA, 11.
02:35:34PM NORTH PLAZA, 11.
02:35:37PM NORTH SCULPTURE PARK, 2.
02:35:39PM WHAT ARE THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS?
02:35:40PM WATER IMPROVEMENTS.
02:35:41PM SANITARY SEWAGE.
02:35:43PM SITE DRAINAGE.
02:35:45PM CHILLER PLANT.
02:35:46PM ELECTRICAL.
02:35:47PM THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT UTILITY STRUCTURES THAT KEEP CURTIS
02:35:50PM HIXON PARK OPERATIONAL AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN UPGRADED SINCE
02:35:56PM 2006.
02:35:56PM SO THESE ARE ALL SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REALLY
02:36:00PM SPECIFICALLY BEING USED IN THIS SITE REDEVELOPMENT.
02:36:06PM THAT IS OUR PROJECT, AND I AM REALLY EXCITED TO ANSWER ANY
02:36:09PM QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
02:36:09PM IT IS A GAME CHANGER FOR THE MUSEUM AND ALL OF WEST CENTRAL
02:36:13PM FLORIDA.
02:36:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
02:36:14PM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:36:16PM FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:36:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH --
02:36:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
02:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO OWNS THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART?
02:36:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DO.
02:36:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:36:30PM WE ARE DISCUSSING A DIFFERENT CRA.
02:36:32PM DOWNTOWN CRA, PREVIOUS DISCUSSION AT CENTRAL PARK.
02:36:35PM REACHED $1 MILLION.
02:36:37PM THE DOWNTOWN CRA, TOPIC OF DISCUSSION LATER TODAY, IS VERY
02:36:42PM WEALTHY IN COMPARISON.
02:36:43PM THE MOST -- THE WEALTHIEST OF ALL THE CRAs I BELIEVE IS THE
02:36:50PM DOWNTOWN CRA WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.
02:36:52PM CHANNELSIDE AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICTS IS NEXT.
02:36:58PM WE ARE REINVESTING IN SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY OURS.
02:37:02PM THE CITY ASSET.
02:37:04PM THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW MUSEUM WITHIN THE LAST 15 YEARS OR SO.
02:37:08PM BECAUSE IN COLLEGE, I WOULD GO TO THE PREVIOUS MUSEUM WHICH
02:37:11PM IS AN UNDERGROUND SET-UP.
02:37:14PM BUT WE -- YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WILL CRITICIZE THE ARTS, BUT
02:37:21PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
02:37:23PM AND WE HAVE AN ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT WITH THE EXPANSION
02:37:27PM OF THE STRAZ NEXT DOOR.
02:37:29PM THE MUSEUM OF ART.
02:37:30PM THE TAMPA THEATRE.
02:37:31PM WE DID HAVE THE PHOTOGRAPHY MUSEUM MOVED TO YBOR, WHICH IS
02:37:36PM NOT A BAD THING, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING OF EXPANDING THE
02:37:39PM STREETCAR NORTH, WHICH WOULD CONNECT YBOR TO HERE.
02:37:43PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GASWORX AND WATER STREET.
02:37:48PM IN THE FUTURE IT WILL BE SEAMLESS FROM ARMATURE WORKS TO
02:37:55PM YBOR.
02:37:55PM TRANSITION FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:37:58PM THIS IS A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AND A VERY SIGNIFICANT PIECE.
02:38:03PM I SAW NUMBERS WHERE YOU SAID THE RESTAURANT/CAFE GENERATES
02:38:07PM $280,000 A YEAR.
02:38:08PM AND WITH THE EXPANSION, IT WILL GENERATE $10 MILLION A YEAR.
02:38:12PM ATTENDANCE IS PROJECTED TO GO UP.
02:38:15PM IT ALREADY HAS BEEN INCREASING.
02:38:17PM WITH THE NEW AMENITIES, THE SKY IS A LIMIT.
02:38:19PM THERE IS A QUESTION MARK.
02:38:21PM BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN A DESTINATION WITH THE DOWNTOWN IS
02:38:24PM GOING.
02:38:24PM THE DENSITY IS THERE.
02:38:27PM THE VISITORS ARE THERE AND THE RIVERWALK.
02:38:30PM THE RIVERWALK WHICH I WALK ALL THE TIME, YOU COME FROM
02:38:34PM CURTIS HIXON AND THE AWKWARD DEAD SPACE CROSS TO THE STRAZ.
02:38:38PM UNLESS THERE IS A PRIVATE EVENT, THE OUTSIDE OF THE MUSEUM
02:38:42PM DOESN'T UTILIZE FACING THE RIVER, BUT WITH THIS EXPANSION,
02:38:47PM WE HAVE THAT NEW EVENT WITH SPACE UPSTAIRS THAT SHOWED A
02:38:49PM BEAUTIFUL -- ALTHOUGH ANIMATED, BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF DOWNTOWN
02:38:52PM THAT WILL BLOW AWAY THE VIEW YOU WOULD GET FROM THE
02:38:54PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA OR FROM THE RIVER CENTER WHICH IS
02:38:57PM ANOTHER CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND THE RIVER CENTER -- I WILL
02:39:00PM USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE -- IS CONSTANTLY BOOKED AND IT IS NOT
02:39:05PM CHEAP.
02:39:05PM PEOPLE UTILIZE IT.
02:39:07PM LOOK AT THE VIEW.
02:39:07PM IT HAS AN OUTDOOR SPACE.
02:39:09PM VIEWS OF THE RIVER AND EVERYTHING.
02:39:11PM THIS IS GOING TO BLOW THIS AWAY.
02:39:14PM NUMBER ONE, THE DOWNTOWN CRA IS ESSENTIALLY FLUSH WITH CASH.
02:39:18PM AND WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION WHAT
02:39:22PM TO DO WITH CAPPING THE CRA, WHATEVER.
02:39:24PM BUT THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
02:39:27PM AN INVESTMENT THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE -- THE MONEY WILL
02:39:31PM COME BACK US TO BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE THAT ARE
02:39:35PM PROJECTED, THAT WE ARE GOING TO GENERATE.
02:39:37PM YOU ARE NOT DONE YET EITHER WITH RAISING MONEY -- FUND
02:39:40PM RAISING OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE STILL THINGS YOU CAN NAME AND
02:39:43PM PRIVATE DOLLARS AND EVERYTHING.
02:39:44PM BUT TO WRAP UP, IT IS A -- IT IS A VERY WORTHY INVESTMENT.
02:39:49PM I LOVE THE MUSEUM PERSONALLY.
02:39:51PM IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES IN TOWN.
02:39:54PM BUT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF INVESTING IN ARTS AND
02:39:58PM CULTURE, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT.
02:40:00PM THIS WILL BE A -- A SHOWPIECE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE
02:40:05PM FROM -- AND THEY ALREADY DO, BUT CONTINUE BRINGING PEOPLE
02:40:08PM FROM THE OUTSIDE TO COME VISIT IT.
02:40:10PM SO I THINK IT IS A WORTHY INVESTMENT.
02:40:12PM AND I WILL FINISH WITH -- AND I AM WITHIN MY FIVE-MINUTE
02:40:17PM TIME PERIOD.
02:40:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE GOT IT.
02:40:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GOT TOLD I DON'T TALK FOR EIGHT YEARS
02:40:21PM AND NOW I AM BEING TOLD I TALK TOO MUCH.
02:40:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN -- [LAUGHTER] --
02:40:28PM WE GOT IT.
02:40:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOWNTOWN CRAs ARE UNIQUE BECAUSE SO MUCH
02:40:33PM MONEY IN THERE THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
02:40:36PM APPEAR WORTHY INVESTMENT AND I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
02:40:39PM >> THANK YOU.
02:40:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THANK YOU.
02:40:43PM THERE ARE -- THERE ARE ASSETS IN THIS COMMUNITY, SYMBIOTIC
02:40:48PM THAT ARE TIED TO THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND
02:40:52PM WHAT WE SEE IN 2023 AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE IN 2030, A
02:40:57PM LOT WITH WHAT THE CITY LOOKS LIKE, AND YOU CAN POINT TO
02:41:01PM POINTS IN HISTORIES OF HOW WE DEVELOP TAMPA AND LEADERS OF
02:41:05PM THE PAST HOW THEY GOT US HERE.
02:41:07PM I DON'T THINK WE WILL SEE THE DEVELOPMENT IN CHANNELSIDE OR
02:41:10PM WATER STREET IF WASN'T FOR THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM.
02:41:13PM YOU KNOW, IF -- WE WOULD NOT SEE YBOR CITY TODAY OR DOWNTOWN
02:41:18PM IF IT WASN'T FOR THE TROLLEY.
02:41:20PM WE WOULDN'T SEE WHAT IS COMING IN -- IN TAMPA HEIGHTS IF IT
02:41:24PM WASN'T FOR AMATEUR WORKS WHICH IS NOT CITY OWNED, CITY
02:41:30PM SPARKED WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
02:41:32PM THE STRAZ CENTER, WHAT IT HAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:41:35PM AND LASTLY, THE MUSEUM OF ART.
02:41:38PM YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO PREVIOUS COMMUNITY LEADERS, PREVIOUS
02:41:41PM MAYORS.
02:41:42PM THEY GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE FROM THAT INTERESTING FACILITY
02:41:46PM THAT USED TO BE CALLED THE MUSEUM OF ART.
02:41:50PM IT WAS LOVELY.
02:41:51PM I USED TO LOVE TO ATTEND BUT DEFINITELY LACKING.
02:41:54PM AND I APPLAUD YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS AND ONE WITH YOUR
02:41:58PM PRIVATE FUND RAISING AND BRINGING SO MUCH TO THE TABLE AND
02:42:03PM NOT SO LEANING ON US FOR -- FOR SUPPORT.
02:42:06PM YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ARE PROVIDING -- AND AGAIN THE
02:42:09PM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING.
02:42:09PM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST ISSUE.
02:42:13PM YOU ARE COMING AND ASKING US FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT YOU ARE
02:42:16PM ALSO PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT IS, AGAIN, A SPARK.
02:42:19PM WE WOULDN'T SEE ALL THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOP IF THERE WASN'T
02:42:22PM THINGS THERE FOR PEOPLE TO DO.
02:42:24PM IF IT WASN'T THESE TYPE OF AMENITIES.
02:42:27PM ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS BECAUSE OF THIS
02:42:30PM TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING
02:42:32PM AND SOME OF THE OTHER LEADERS OF THESE -- AGAIN, CITY,
02:42:36PM COUNTY-OWNED ASSETS AROUND THE CATALYST -- THEY ARE
02:42:40PM CATALYSTS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
02:42:41PM CATALYSTS FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.
02:42:43PM THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU AND THE STRAZ AND
02:42:46PM OTHER PEOPLE ARE PROVIDING AND THE AQUARIUM, YOU ARE
02:42:49PM PROVIDING TO THE CHILDREN GROWING UP.
02:42:51PM YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT A PRICE TAG ON THAT.
02:42:53PM THE MUSEUM, YOU GO IN -- I CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A MONET
02:42:59PM IN MY HOUSE.
02:43:00PM I CAN'T -- NOT THAT I WILL PUT A MONET IN MY HOUSE.
02:43:04PM I CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL ART THAT YOU HAVE, I
02:43:07PM CAN GO TO THE MUSEUM AND APPRECIATE IT.
02:43:09PM AND CHILDREN CAN COME IN AND APPRECIATE THAT.
02:43:12PM AND IT ADDS -- IT ADDS TO EVERYTHING WE NEED TO BE AS A
02:43:18PM CULTURE, A CIVILIZED SOCIETY AND A GROWING METROPOLITAN
02:43:23PM CITY.
02:43:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE CIVILIZED.
02:43:28PM [LAUGHTER]
02:43:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
02:43:31PM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPOSAL AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH
02:43:37PM EFFORT YOU ARE PUTTING FORTH OF BRINGING THAT PRIVATE MONEY
02:43:40PM AND THE FUND RAISING YOU PROVIDED.
02:43:42PM AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRUE CULTURAL ASSET.
02:43:45PM IT IS GOING TO BE A MAGNET FOR THE ENTIRE SOUTHEASTERN
02:43:50PM UNITED STATES AND I GUARANTEE YOU WITH EVERY B ROLL IN THE
02:43:53PM CITY OF TAMPA, THIS BUILDING WILL BE ON IT.
02:43:55PM YOU WILL SEE THIS IS ONE OF THE SIGNATURE THINGS THAT WILL
02:43:57PM BE KNOWN AND BRAND $AS TAMPA.
02:44:01PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:44:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOOED MEMBER HURTAK.
02:44:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO WITH WHAT MY FELLOW BOARD
02:44:07PM MEMBERS SAID.
02:44:08PM THE THING I PARTICULAR LIBRARY LIKE HOW YOU STRUCTURED THIS,
02:44:11PM THAT THE PRIVATE DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THE STRUCTURE
02:44:14PM ITSELF.
02:44:15PM AND I THINK THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE -- NOT THAT I WOULDN'T
02:44:19PM SUPPORT THE MUSEUM OF ART, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE
02:44:23PM WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, HOW YOU HAVE GROWN.
02:44:26PM YOU HAVE BEEN SMART ABOUT IT.
02:44:27PM BUT YOU ARE USING PRIVATE DOLLARS FOR THE STRUCTURE THAT IS
02:44:33PM PRIVATE.
02:44:35PM IN ADDITION, THAT IS THE WORST GAP ON THE RIVERWALK.
02:44:42PM IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT AS OTHERS.
02:44:54PM BECAUSE THERE IS A SIGN THAT SAYS RIVERWALK THIS WAY BECAUSE
02:44:58PM PEOPLE VISITING DON'T KNOW THAT.
02:44:59PM THE CASS STREET BIKE LANES THAT ARE CONNECTING WEST TAMPA
02:45:02PM ALL THE WAY TO YBOR AND BEYOND, IT HAS BECOME -- THAT IS A
02:45:07PM HIGHWAY FOR OUR CYCLISTS.
02:45:09PM SO IT IS AN ENTRANCE TO THE RIVERWALK, AGAIN, WHICH IS
02:45:13PM ANOTHER HIGHWAY AND VERY DANGEROUS IN THAT SPACE.
02:45:15PM VERY HARD FOR THEM TO GET AROUND.
02:45:17PM SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOUR -- THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF
02:45:21PM IT, WHICH THE CITY HAS TO DO ANYWAY.
02:45:23PM WE HAVE TO RECONFIGURE THAT SPACE TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR
02:45:27PM PEOPLE TO CROSS.
02:45:28PM THE THING I LOVE ABOUT THE MUSEUM AND SOME OF THE THINGS
02:45:35PM THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS ASK I LOVE THE NEW ART YOU ARE
02:45:42PM PUTTING IN.
02:45:43PM I LOVE WHAT WE SEE AS BOUNDARY PUSHING, MODERN, INSIDER ART
02:45:47PM WHICH IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE.
02:45:49PM I LOVE TO SEE THAT IS THE AREA WE ARE GOING.
02:45:53PM BUT I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE WE WILL BE REMISS IF I DON'T
02:45:58PM ASK THIS.
02:45:58PM YOU ARE TAKING AWAY THE DOG PARK.
02:46:00PM AND THE DOG PARK IS TBD, TO BE DETERMINED.
02:46:05PM IT IS THIS A PROMISE THAT A DOG PARK WILL REPLACE THE DOG
02:46:11PM PARK NOW.
02:46:12PM >> ABSOLUTELY AND BUILT IN THE CRA REQUEST.
02:46:15PM THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND PARKS AND REC.
02:46:19PM THE DEPARTMENT HAS COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT IS ACTUALLY
02:46:22PM BETTER THAN THE EXISTING LOCATION THAT WE WISH THEY WOULD
02:46:25PM HAVE CHOSEN BEFORE.
02:46:26PM THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SITE PICKED OUT.
02:46:28PM SO ALL WE WOULD BE DOING IS DESIGNING IT AND FUNDING IT FOR
02:46:33PM THEM.
02:46:33PM BUT THEIR LOCATION DECISION.
02:46:34PM AND SO WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.
02:46:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I REMEMBER -- BECAUSE I -- YOU SHOWED ME
02:46:41PM SOME RENDERING BEFORE.
02:46:42PM SORT OF BY CASS STREET, IN THAT AREA.
02:46:45PM >> ACTUALLY THOSE RENDERS ARE NOT IN CASS STREET.
02:46:50PM CLOSER TO THE PARK ITSELF.
02:46:52PM THAT IS WHAT THEY PREFER.
02:46:53PM WE ARE ADDING 1700 TO 1800 SQUARE FEET TO THE SIZE OF THE
02:46:57PM EXISTING AND I THINK WE ARE CREATING TWO DOG PARKS WHICH IS
02:47:00PM MORE BEST PRACTICES RIGHT NOW.
02:47:02PM FOR LARGE DOGS AND FOR SMALL DOGS.
02:47:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHADE.
02:47:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHADE.
02:47:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHADE.
02:47:14PM >> AND THE ORIGINAL DESIGN HAS SHADE AS WELL.
02:47:17PM >> I WANTED TO ASK THAT BECAUSE AS MORE PEOPLE MOVE INTO
02:47:20PM THAT AREA, THAT DOG PARK IS BEING BE USED A LOT.
02:47:22PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD IT WAS NOT
02:47:25PM REALLY A TBD.
02:47:27PM IT WILL BE A PARK, BUT HAVEN'T BEEN DESIGNED OUT THE WAY THE
02:47:30PM REST OF THE -- THE PLAN HAS.
02:47:32PM AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS, I REMEMBER THAT -- I
02:47:36PM THINK THIS WAS PRIOR TO COVID, THERE WERE SOME OCCASIONAL
02:47:41PM FREE MUSEUM NIGHTS.
02:47:42PM >> THEY STILL ARE.
02:47:44PM WE HAVE MANY POINTS OF ENTRANTS FOR FREE ACCESS.
02:47:47PM THURSDAY NIGHT IS FREE FROM 4-8.
02:47:50PM AND WEATHER ALSO FREE TO SNAP BENEFIT RECIPIENTS AND A
02:47:55PM FAMILY OF FOUR TO FIVE IF THEY PRESENT THOSE CARDS.
02:47:58PM AND FREE TO ACTIVE MILITARY AND THEIR FAMILIES AND VETERANS.
02:48:03PM WE HAVE ALL OF OUR EDUCATION PROGRAMS ARE FREE.
02:48:05PM FAMILY DAYS.
02:48:06PM ANY TIME THAT IS HAPPENING, WE ARE WELCOMING THE COMMUNITY
02:48:09PM TO ATTEND.
02:48:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:48:11PM AND, AGAIN, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT THAT WITH
02:48:15PM THE PUBLIC.
02:48:15PM SO A PUBLIC SPACE THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND OFFERING
02:48:19PM EVEN MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN
02:48:23PM ACTIVITIES.
02:48:24PM SO, AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU DESIGNED THIS.
02:48:27PM IT IS JUST -- JUST SPECTACULAR.
02:48:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOOED MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:48:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
02:48:33PM I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCILMAN VIERA TO HANDS ME A COMMENDATION
02:48:37PM FOR NOT SPEAKING OVER FIVE MINUTES.
02:48:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: TWO BIRDS WITH ONE SHOT.
02:48:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAD TO GIVE HIM A BOOST UP.
02:48:44PM LET ME SAY I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
02:48:46PM THE RAISING OF THE $50 SOME MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT AN EASY
02:48:50PM TASK.
02:48:50PM WHAT I SEE HERE IS A CULMINATION OF MANY THINGS.
02:48:55PM GO BACK 35 TO 40 YEARS, YOU ARE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD, BEING.
02:49:02PM THIS IS ANOTHER ANCHOR, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT
02:49:08PM THINGS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE, THE HOTEL ROOM OCCUPANCY IN
02:49:12PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.
02:49:14PM IS IT?
02:49:16PM THEY DON'T COME TO SEE US.
02:49:17PM THEY COME TO SEE YOU FOLKS, THE STRAZ AND DIFFERENT THINGS
02:49:20PM AROUND IT, THE AQUARIUM, THE ZOO, THEY COME NOW PAUSE --
02:49:25PM WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, THE SIDEWALKS IS WERE PICKED UP AT
02:49:28PM 5:00.
02:49:29PM THERE WAS NO ONE HERE.
02:49:31PM NO ONE.
02:49:31PM >> THE CHAIR IS.
02:49:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECURITY.
02:49:37PM CHECKING OUT EACH OTHER.
02:49:39PM THESE ARE THE THINGS I REMEMBER.
02:49:40PM AND TRANSFORMATION HAS COME BECAUSE OF EVERYBODY'S CONCERN.
02:49:43PM NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL, NOT ONE UNIT, NOT ONE COMPANY.
02:49:46PM ABOUT BUT WE USED TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL WITHOUT
02:49:50PM A CONVENTION CENTER -- WE HAD A CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT A
02:49:54PM CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL.
02:49:56PM THE MARRIOTT CAME IN 25, 30 YEARS AGO.
02:50:01PM HOW MANY HOTELS BUILT AROUND HERE, EIGHT OR TEN.
02:50:05PM ONE FIVE-STAR, MAYBE TWO FIVE-STARS NOW.
02:50:08PM THE TRANSITION IS HERE AND CONTINUING TO HAPPEN.
02:50:11PM AND WHEN PEOPLE COME TO STAY AT THE HOTEL.
02:50:14PM THEY SAY -- I WOULD IMAGINE THAT EVERY DOLLAR WE SPENT IN
02:50:18PM DOING THESE THINGS CAME TO FIVE, SEVEN OR EIGHT IN RETURN.
02:50:23PM THIS THEY WILL COME BACK BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SAME
02:50:28PM THING FIVE YEARS.
02:50:29PM YOU HAVE NEED A DIFFERENT CHANGE IN AMENITIES TO KEEP UP
02:50:32PM WITH THE PACE YOU ARE NOW.
02:50:33PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE REALIZED.
02:50:35PM WE DON'T REALIZE IT YET, BUT COST -- AND THE REVENUE THAT
02:50:38PM COMES IN WHEN YOU DO THESE THINGS PAYS OFF THE COST.
02:50:40PM >> IT DOES.
02:50:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THINGS THAT THE BUSINESS PERSONS LIKE ALL
02:50:44PM OF YOU ARE NECESSARY TO DO SO THIS CITY CAN CONTINUE GOING
02:50:48PM FORWARD.
02:50:48PM I AM FORTUNATE I HAVE EIGHT GRANDCHILDREN.
02:50:52PM GUESS WHAT A, THEY ALL LIVE IN TAMPA SAND WENT TO SCHOOLS
02:50:56PM OUTSIDE OF TAMPA AND NEVER WENT AWAY -- I DIDN'T LET THEM GO
02:50:59PM AWAY.
02:50:59PM I WILL HAVE TO PUT THIS THAT WAY.
02:51:02PM WHAT I AM SAYING, THE KIDS USED TO GO TO SOME COLLEGE AND
02:51:06PM SOME PERCENT, I WOULD LIKE IT HERE AND THEY BOO STAY THERE.
02:51:09PM I GUARANTEE YOU THOSE NUMBERS ARE LOW AND BACK TO WHERE THEY
02:51:15PM CAME FROM.
02:51:15PM FROM THE ARTS, CULTURE AND EVERYTHING YOU WANT.
02:51:18PM NIGHT LIFE FOR THE KIDS, YOU KNOW.
02:51:20PM AND IT IS -- IT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
02:51:22PM THE STREETCAR WILL BE EXPANDED TO SOME DEGREE AND I HOPE IT
02:51:26PM MAKES A COMPLETE CIRCLE SOONER OR LATER.
02:51:29PM THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED.
02:51:30PM WHEN YOU THINK OF SAN FRANCISCO, YOU THINK OF THINGS LIKE
02:51:32PM THAT.
02:51:33PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
02:51:35PM >> YOU ANY OF NEW ORLEANS AND YOU THINK OF CERTAIN THINGS.
02:51:38PM TAMPA HAS NOW BECOME A MULTI PURPOSE AREA FOR PEOPLE TO COME
02:51:42PM AND VISIT AND STAY AND REALLY ENJOY IT BECAUSE IT IS COMING
02:51:45PM BACK.
02:51:45PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR DOING THIS.
02:51:48PM AND YOU ARE VERY WELL-DONE AND VERY WELL PROFESSIONALLY IN
02:51:53PM TUNE TO WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.
02:51:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:51:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU READY FOR STAFF MOTION TO APPROVE
02:51:57PM THIS?
02:51:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT YET.
02:51:58PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GET TO SAY SOMETHING.
02:52:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:52:04PM WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IS VERY ON POINT.
02:52:07PM YOU DID A GREAT PRESENTATION AND GENTLEMEN AND GENTLE.
02:52:11PM LADIES.
02:52:12PM PROUD TO WORK YOU ALL -- WHEN DID IT PASS, THREE YEARS AGO?
02:52:16PM >> THREE YEARS AGO.
02:52:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO LONG BEFORE COVID AND YOU WERE A PLEASURE
02:52:21PM TO WORK WITH.
02:52:21PM AND CERTAINLY WITH ONE TO DO NOW.
02:52:24PM WITH ME -- AND WE DISCUSSED THIS A FEW DAYS AGO, THERE ARE A
02:52:27PM LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAVE OF THINGS THIS CRA BOARD IS LOOKING
02:52:31PM AT WITH REGARDS TO DOWNTOWN CRA BEFORE I CAN SUPPORT THIS.
02:52:36PM THERE ARE A LOT -- THE THINGS I LIKE OF THE PROJECT, THE
02:52:40PM $125 PROPOSAL WILL OF THIS, THEY ARE NATURALLY RELATED AND
02:52:44PM ONE THING LEADS TO THE OTHER AND THE SUPPORT OF OUTSIDE
02:52:47PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:52:48PM I THINK THAT IS GREAT BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN
02:52:50PM ENJOY AS WELL AS WHAT IT SUPPORTS, THE OUTSIDE SUPPORTS AND
02:52:53PM WHAT IT DEALS WITH ON THE INSIDE AND WHATSOEVER.
02:52:56PM THE PRIOR $15 MILLION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITY COUNCIL
02:53:03PM 7-0 AND WE DID IT FOR A REASON.
02:53:05PM I HAVE A QUESTION, HOW MUCH IN TERMS OF IS THE AREA AND
02:53:09PM MAYBE MISS MOODY CAN ANSWER THIS, THE CAFETERIA AND THE
02:53:14PM RAILROAD TRACK AREA.
02:53:15PM HOW MUCH IS DEDICATED MONETARILY TO EACH ONE?
02:53:20PM FROM WHAT WE ARE ASKING FROM US.
02:53:22PM NOT GROSS.
02:53:35PM >>THE WEST PLAZA, SOUTH CAFE RESTAURANT IS 30,000 SQUARE
02:53:39PM FEET AND COMING IN AT 11.
02:53:41PM AND YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE LAND NORTH.
02:53:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
02:53:45PM >> THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO THE NORTH PLAZA, 19,000 AND $7
02:53:50PM MILLION FOR THAT.
02:53:51PM THE SCULPTURE PARK ON CASS, 6500 SQUARE FEET, AND RIGHT NOW
02:53:59PM THAT IS COMING IN AT $2.3 MILLION.
02:54:01PM BUT ALSO PART OF THE DOG PARK REVITALIZATION.
02:54:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, FROM THE FUNDS THAT WERE THE $10
02:54:08PM MILLION YOU ARE SEEKING TO GET FROM THE CRA.
02:54:10PM HOW MUCH WILL GO TO EAST?
02:54:12PM HOW MUCH FOR THE CAFETERIA --
02:54:14PM >> THE TOTAL AMOUNT WAS ON THAT SLIDE.
02:54:15PM SO YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL IS $24,750,000.
02:54:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY IF I WASN'T CLEAR, SIR.
02:54:28PM >> I DON'T RECALL.
02:54:31PM >> IF THAT IS AVAILABLE.
02:54:39PM >> THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY BECAUSE OF THE
02:54:43PM COST INCREASE.
02:54:43PM THAT IS WHERE IT IS ALL COMING IN.
02:54:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR ME -- IN LIGHT OF A FEW THINGS.
02:54:49PM THIS WILL COME BACK TO US.
02:54:50PM I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
02:54:51PM I MAY SUPPORT IT IN THE FUTURE.
02:54:52PM I CAN'T SUPPORT IT AT THIS TIME, AND THERE IS WHY.
02:54:55PM NUMBER ONE, WHEN YOU PUT IT TOGETHER -- I KNOW THERE ARE
02:54:58PM COST ESCALATIONS.
02:55:00PM WE WILL BE AT $25 MILLION.
02:55:02PM I SUPPORTED DIFFERENT THINGS FOR DOWNTOWN LIKE THE TAMPA
02:55:04PM THEATRE.
02:55:04PM OBVIOUSLY THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART, A LOT LESS.
02:55:08PM FOR ME GOING TO THAT NUMBER AT THIS TIME WHEN WE HAVE A LOT
02:55:11PM OF OTHER NEEDS IT THE.
02:55:12PM WE TALK A LOT OF THE STREETCAR AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
02:55:16PM IMPROVING OUR PARKS, THE JACKSON HOUSE THERE.
02:55:18PM A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD COME UP AND WE ARE TALKING OF
02:55:20PM CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND DEDICATING $10 MILLION MORE.
02:55:24PM SO, IN OTHER WORDS, FOR ME, THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE
02:55:29PM HAVE TO PUT TO BED BEFORE WE LOOK AT SPENDING OTHER DOLLARS
02:55:33PM AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED ON IT.
02:55:35PM THERE IS A LOT -- EVERYTHING IN THIS PROJECT IS AMAZING.
02:55:38PM EVERYTHING IN THIS PROJECT IS AMAZING.
02:55:39PM I WISH THAT WE COULD PASS A SMALL PART OF IT AND THEN MAYBE
02:55:43PM COME BACK TWO MONTHS LATER AND DISCUSS ANOTHER PART OF IT
02:55:46PM ONCE WE PUT TO BED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THE CAPPING OF THE
02:55:50PM DOWNTOWN CRA SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS VOTED FOR AND I DON'T
02:55:53PM THINK WE VOTED FOR AS A BODY.
02:55:55PM MISS MOODY, DO YOU --
02:55:57PM >>ERICA MOODY: I DO.
02:55:58PM I HAVE A SLIDE ON THE CAMERA DOC, BUT DOESN'T SEPARATE WHAT
02:56:02PM THE $10 MILLION INCREASE WILL BE, BUT THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE
02:56:05PM TOTAL PROJECTS AND AMOUNT AT THE VERY END.
02:56:08PM THIS IS A FURTHER BREAK DOWN.
02:56:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE.
02:56:15PM FOR ME TALKING OF CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND WE STARTED
02:56:18PM THE CONVERSATION AND NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU GUYS.
02:56:20PM I FEEL YOU ALL WITH A WONDERFUL PROJECT PUT ON BY A
02:56:23PM WONDERFUL CLASSY -- VERY REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN POTENTIALLY
02:56:29PM FALL VICTIM TO THIS -- IT WON'T BECAUSE IT COULD PASS -- IN
02:56:32PM MY EYES COULD FALL VICTIM TO THAT.
02:56:33PM WE STARTED TALKING OF CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA IN 2020.
02:56:37PM IT WAS SET ASIDE.
02:56:38PM WE PASSED SOME BIG THINGS, ONE OF WHICH I VOTED FOR TAMPA
02:56:42PM THEATRE.
02:56:42PM ANOTHER ONE I DIDN'T WITH THE STRAZ CENTER.
02:56:45PM AND NOW IT IS COMING BACK AND PUTTING SPENDING ON THE CRA.
02:56:51PM BEFORE WE GET THE PUBLIC IN -- NONE OF THE PUBLIC TALKED OF
02:56:55PM THIS ITEM BUT THE AQUARIUM.
02:56:56PM BEFORE WE GET THE PUBLIC TO SAY CAP THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND FIX
02:57:01PM OUR ROADS AND THIS.
02:57:01PM SHOULDN'T WE TALK ABOUT CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA BEFORE WE
02:57:06PM OBLIGATE $10 MILLION MORE.
02:57:07PM THAT IS MY VIEW.
02:57:08PM BUT, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON HOW WE GO WITH THE DOWNTOWN CRA, I
02:57:12PM MAY ALTERNATELY SUPPORT THIS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK
02:57:15PM IT IS, RIGHT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
02:57:18PM WHICH I HOPE IT DID AFTER ALL MY TALKING.
02:57:20PM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL A GREAT DEAL AND APPRECIATE ALL THE
02:57:24PM THOUGHTS OF COUNCIL.
02:57:25PM AGAIN I DID VOTE FOR IT THE FIRST TIME.
02:57:27PM THE EXTRA FUNDS ARE PREMATURE GIVEN THE DISCUSSION OF THE
02:57:31PM CAPPING OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA SOMETHING WE STARTED TO TALK
02:57:34PM ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO AND SPENT ALL THIS MONEY IN SINCE
02:57:36PM THEN.
02:57:36PM IT'S A REASONABLE POINT TO MAKE.
02:57:39PM SO THAT'S IT.
02:57:40PM BUT I THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND WORK.
02:57:43PM >> I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE.
02:57:46PM THANK YOU.
02:57:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I TALK AFTER YOU.
02:57:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
02:57:50PM HELLO, EVERYONE.
02:57:52PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
02:57:52PM I AS A NEW COUNCILMEMBER, I HAD TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND SLAM
02:58:01PM AND BLIGHT WHEN IT COMES TONIGHT STRAZ.
02:58:03PM I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD REDO THIS.
02:58:07PM AS I GROWN IN THIS PROCESS AND LEARNED ABOUT OUR ASSETS AND
02:58:11PM HOW THEY ARE COMING BACK AND REPURPOSING AND REVIVING
02:58:14PM THEMSELVES TO BE EVEN GREATER THAN WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW,
02:58:17PM I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR CONVERSATION A FEW MONTHS AGO AND
02:58:25PM DUE DOSE TO OUR TEAM AND THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR STRETCHING
02:58:28PM THAT FUND RAISING MUSCLE.
02:58:29PM $55 MILLION IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
02:58:31PM AND I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE READY TO GO HAD IT NOT
02:58:35PM BEEN THE INCREASE IN COSTS WHICH A TOTALLY NOT FAIR, BUT IT
02:58:41PM IS WHAT IT IS.
02:58:41PM FOR ME, I AM THINKING ABOUT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF --
02:58:48PM THE FAMILIES, LIKE THE SNAP FAMILIES THAT YOU SERVED.
02:58:52PM INCREASED -- FINDING A WAY TO INCREASE THAT MUSCLE WITH HOW
02:58:55PM TO GET THE INFORMATION TO THEM THAT THIS IS AN ASSET THAT
02:58:59PM THEY ARE WELCOMED TO.
02:59:00PM YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW.
02:59:01PM WE MIGHT GET A GREAT ARTIST OUT OF THAT SOME DAY.
02:59:04PM AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF WHAT COMES INTO THE
02:59:08PM PNEUMONIA THEY TERMS OF IT BEING A COMMUNITY BENEFIT WHERE
02:59:16PM CITY AND MANY OTHERS CAN APPRECIATE THE DIVERSITY IN WHAT
02:59:21PM COMES IN LIKE THE KENSEY COLLECTION.
02:59:24PM THE RUTH -- RUTH CARTER, THE DESIGNER FOR SPIKE LEE.
02:59:29PM THE THING SHE DOES AND ANN WINTER WHO GOT HER START WITH
02:59:37PM GASPARILLA GOWNS AND JACKIE KENNEDY'S GOWN FOR THE
02:59:42PM INAUGURATION.
02:59:42PM SHE MIND MY SORORITY SISTER'S PROM DRESS.
02:59:46PM JUST SO MANY OTHERS -- YOU KNOW, WOODROW NASH, BUTLER.
02:59:51PM I WANT TO SEE YOU ALL INCREASE THAT MUSCLE AS WELL IN TERMS
02:59:56PM OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE ART AND EXHIBITS YOU BRING IN.
02:59:58PM THAT MAY NOT BE THE TRADITIONAL PATHWAY THAT YOU NORMALLY
03:00:05PM TAKE.
03:00:05PM I KNOW YOU DO HAVE DIVERSITY IN YOUR MUSEUM.
03:00:08PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT.
03:00:09PM I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE PART OF A THOUGHTFUL
03:00:12PM SERIOUS CONSIDERATION WHEN IT IS PRESENTED TO YOU SO THE
03:00:19PM DIVERSITY OF THE AUDIENCE WE SERVE HERE IN TAMPA CAN ENJOY
03:00:21PM THIS PUBLIC SPACE JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
03:00:25PM GREAT JOB ON THE PRESENTATION.
03:00:28PM I ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT AND THE
03:00:33PM THOUGHTFULNESS BEHIND EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT YOU ASKED
03:00:39PM PRIVATELY TO RAISE FUND ON YOUR BEHALF FOR THE MUSEUM AND
03:00:44PM THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THE PARK ASPECT
03:00:48PM WHICH IS BLIGHTED IN A SENSE.
03:00:49PM IT IS JUST UNDERSTANDABLE.
03:00:51PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. CLENDENIN WRAP HIS LAST COMMENT
03:00:57PM FOR 60 SECONDS AND THEN MOVE ON.
03:01:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T TALK A LOT.
03:01:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU DON'T.
03:01:03PM GO AHEAD.
03:01:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN VIERA'S CONCERNS AND
03:01:10PM WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND WE WILL TALK OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA
03:01:13PM AND CAPPING IT.
03:01:14PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE ACCOMPLISHED AND APPROVED.
03:01:17PM THESE ARE CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ASSETS
03:01:21PM IF NOT US, THEN WHO.
03:01:22PM WE HAVE TAKEN -- WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE TAMPA THEATRE.
03:01:26PM WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE STRAZ.
03:01:28PM WE ARE BRINGING THEM UP TO 2023 STANDARDS AND BEYOND RIGHT
03:01:32PM NOW, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL
03:01:34PM WITH.
03:01:35PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WITH THOSE
03:01:38PM DISCUSSIONS.
03:01:38PM I LOOK AT WHEN WE TALK OF DOING THIS, PROTECT THE FUNDING
03:01:41PM FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE BLIGHT WE SEE NORTH OF DOWNTOWN.
03:01:46PM WE WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE TALK OF THE
03:01:48PM DISCUSSIONS.
03:01:48PM MARION STREET AND TREMENDOUS PURPOSING AND THOSE THINGS.
03:01:50PM PROTECT THE FUNDING.
03:01:52PM TALK ABOUT AND PROTECT THE FUNDING FOR THE STREETCAR SYSTEM
03:01:55PM AND ENSURE THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE WE TALK OF CAPPING
03:01:59PM DOWNTOWN.
03:01:59PM BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
03:02:01PM I AM REALLY HAPPY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD --
03:02:04PM >> SECOND.
03:02:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO PROVE THIS RESOLUTION TO FUND THE TAMPA
03:02:09PM MUSEUM OF ART.
03:02:09PM THANK YOU.
03:02:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: BRIEF COMMENT ON THE MOTION, IF I MAY.
03:02:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SURE.
03:02:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
03:02:19PM ALL WELL TAKEN FROM MY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:02:22PM YOU KNOW IT IS FUNNY.
03:02:23PM I ALMOST WISH WE COULD HAVE YOU ALL AFTER THE CAPPING
03:02:27PM DISCUSSION AND THAT MEANS YOU WOULD BE HERE UNTIL 9 P.M.
03:02:30PM TONIGHT.
03:02:31PM BUT THAT'S ALL.
03:02:32PM WELL TAKEN.
03:02:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:02:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
03:02:42PM CLENDENIN.
03:02:42PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:02:45PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
03:02:47PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
03:02:48PM ANY OPPOSED.
03:02:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: NAY.
03:02:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH A SECONDARY
03:02:56PM MOTION WITH THE MUSEUM.
03:02:57PM I MOVE THAT THE TAMPA MUSEUM AND ART CAC GRANT AGREEMENT
03:03:01PM REQUIRE THAT THE TAMPA MUSEUM AND ART UNDERGO THE COMMUNITY
03:03:04PM AGREEMENT PROCESS AND ENTER INTO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
03:03:07PM AGREEMENT PROCESS AS A CONDITION TO RECEIVING THE CRA GRANT
03:03:12PM EVEN IF THE MUSEUM IS TECHNICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE COMMUNITY
03:03:15PM BENEFIT AGREEMENT ORDINANCE.
03:03:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS?
03:03:19PM >> I AM NOW.
03:03:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:03:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KIND OF HINTED TO IT WHEN I SAID MY
03:03:23PM COMMENTS.
03:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
03:03:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A VERY THOUGHT.
03:03:28PM MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
03:03:33PM MANISCALCO -- SORRY, MIRANDA.
03:03:34PM MY APOLOGIES.
03:03:36PM ANY COMMENTS?
03:03:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT ENTAILS FOR THEM?
03:03:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY UNDERGO THE COMMUNITY AGREEMENT
03:03:45PM PROCESS WITH OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, TO COME UP WITH THAT SO
03:03:48PM THAT IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BENEFITING FROM
03:03:54PM THE DOLLARS THAT YOU ARE GIVING.
03:03:56PM I ASK THAT OF THE STRAZ AS WELL.
03:03:59PM BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO IT FORMALLY.
03:04:01PM THEY DID CIRCLE BACK AND SAY WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE.
03:04:04PM SO THIS IS JUST A FORMAL PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS A CITY ASSET
03:04:09PM THAT WE YOU KNOW MAKE THAT REQUEST OF THEM WHETHER IT BE
03:04:16PM COURTESY -- OH, SURE, WE WILL DO IT.
03:04:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT THE
03:04:22PM THINGS THEY OFFERED.
03:04:22PM THAT THEY TOLD US ABOUT.
03:04:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT, EXACTLY.
03:04:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH YOU, THE FREE MUSEUM NIGHTS IS
03:04:31PM ONE OF ITS THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
03:04:33PM I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PUBLIC WAY TO SHARE THAT, AGAIN,
03:04:36PM LOUDLY AND MORE PUBLICLY.
03:04:38PM MAYBE WE NEED TO DO THAT MORE -- SINCE WE DO OWN IT.
03:04:40PM MAYBE SOME OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
03:04:44PM ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF BENEFITS THAT I WILL BE HONEST, I
03:04:48PM DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
03:04:49PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: JUST REAL QUICKLY, BOARD MEMBERS, THE CBA
03:04:56PM ORDINANCE THAT CITY OF TAMPA INCLUDES CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE
03:05:01PM -- FROM HAVING TO UNDERGO THE CBA PROCESS.
03:05:06PM THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PROCESS THAT YOU
03:05:08PM HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WORKS WITH THE GROUP REDEVELOPING AND
03:05:10PM DOING THE DEVELOPMENT.
03:05:11PM IF THEY ARE GETTING FUNDING FROM THE CITY AND THE CRA OVER A
03:05:15PM CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEY AGREE TO CERTAIN BENEFITS AS PART OF
03:05:20PM GETTING THAT MONEY OR THAT GRANT FROM THE CITY OR THE CRA.
03:05:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WANT THEM TO STRETCH THAT MUSCLE.
03:05:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS ISN'T REALLY KIND OF -- LIKE -- OUR
03:05:30PM ATTORNEY JUST SAID, ISN'T THIS KIND OF -- IT IS A CITY
03:05:35PM ASSET.
03:05:35PM ALMOST LIKE WE ARE NEGOTIATING AGAINST OURSELVES.
03:05:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE NOT NEGOTIATING AGAINST OURSELF
03:05:42PM FOR THE COMMUNITY GOOD.
03:05:43PM THE GREATEST GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
03:05:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT ALREADY CITY STAFF.
03:05:46PM CITY ASSET.
03:05:48PM CITY -- I DON'T GET IT.
03:05:49PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE WILL BE NEGOTIATING WITH THE TAMPA
03:05:51PM MUSEUM OF ART.
03:05:52PM SO IT WOULD NOT BE NEGOTIATING WITH OURSELVES.
03:05:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY ARE OUR LEASEHOLDER.
03:05:59PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: OUR TENANT.
03:06:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN --
03:06:03PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:06:05PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:06:06PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:06:07PM THANK YOU.
03:06:07PM CONGRATS.
03:06:15PM >> THANK YOU, YOUR DECISION IS A LEGACY DECISION THAT IS
03:06:19PM PART OF YOUR LIFE.
03:06:19PM >> THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
03:06:22PM HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
03:06:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MERRY CHRISTMAS.
03:06:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I GUESS WE NEED FIVE MINUTES -- YEAH,
03:06:27PM JUST FIVE MINUTES.
03:06:28PM I HAVE TO -- FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
03:06:32PM I NEED TO USE THE REST ROOM MYSELF.
03:17:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE CRA MEETING IS BACK IN SESSION.
03:17:51PM WE WILL TALK ABOUT OUR AGENDA.
03:17:52PM OKAY.
03:17:53PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET'S GO THROUGH.
03:17:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO THROUGH A ROLL CALL FIRST.
03:17:57PM ALTHOUGH I CAN SEE ALL OF US ACCEPT -- GO AHEAD.
03:18:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
03:18:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
03:18:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
03:18:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
03:18:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
03:18:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HERE.
03:18:08PM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
03:18:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WILL DISCUSS OUR AGENDA.
03:18:12PM CLEAN IT UP A BIT AND EXPEDITE --
03:18:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL OFFER TO CONTINUE NUMBER 21.
03:18:17PM THAT IS THE UPDATE TO THE DOWNTOWN CRP.
03:18:27PM >>ERICA MOODY: CHANNEL CRP.
03:18:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE?
03:18:30PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU CAN.
03:18:31PM THERE IS NO TIME CERTAIN.
03:18:32PM THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
03:18:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WILL BE A LONG DISCUSSION AND IT IS NOT
03:18:38PM TIME SENSITIVE.
03:18:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:18:40PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHEN DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TO, JANUARY --
03:18:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY IS TOO FULL ALSO -- SORRY.
03:18:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS THE FORMER PRESENTATION OF
03:18:50PM THE CRP?
03:18:51PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS THE KICKOFF, BASICALLY, RECEIVING
03:18:54PM IT.
03:18:54PM THEN YOU -- IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE IT ALONG TO THE PLANNING
03:18:57PM COMMISSION, THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU BOTH AS A CRA AND
03:19:02PM CITY COUNCIL BEFORE IT IS ADOPTED -- THE OPTION, BUT WE CAN
03:19:06PM DELAY THAT DISCUSSION.
03:19:07PM BECAUSE I THINK BOARD MEMBER CARLSON WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS
03:19:12PM THAT IN DETAIL AND WE WILL HAVE NOR DISCUSSION AT THE
03:19:14PM JANUARY CRA MEETING.
03:19:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE ROOM IN JANUARY.
03:19:18PM HOW ABOUT FEBRUARY.
03:19:20PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: FEBRUARY IS FINE.
03:19:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN WE HAVE IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
03:19:24PM CRA DISCUSSION OF DOWNTOWN CAPPING?
03:19:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THEY ARE DIFFER.
03:19:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
03:19:30PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
03:19:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HEARING FROM OUR -- WHAT ARE THOSE FOLKS
03:19:35PM CALLED.
03:19:36PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOUR CONSULTANTS ATHENS HENDERSON HEARING
03:19:40PM FROM THE CONSULTANTS.
03:19:41PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
03:19:44PM >>ERICA MOODY: WE ARE TALKING OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:19:45PM ITEM 21 IS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
03:19:48PM PLAN UPDATE WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY
03:19:51PM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATE.
03:19:53PM THEY ARE BOTH BEING UPDATED.
03:19:54PM BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE.
03:19:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
03:19:57PM >>ERICA MOODY: AS FAR AS THE AGENDA, WE HAVE --
03:20:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH WE MOVE THAT ONE OR NOT?
03:20:05PM >>ERICA MOODY: YES.
03:20:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 21 TO
03:20:11PM FEBRUARY.
03:20:11PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHAT IS THE DATE?
03:20:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FEBRUARY 8.
03:20:13PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE --
03:20:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COMMENT ON THE MOTION.
03:20:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOVE THE ITEM 21 TO FEBRUARY 8.
03:20:20PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:20:23PM AND THERE IS DISCUSSION.
03:20:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:20:28PM THIS APPEARS TO BE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT A VERY
03:20:33PM CURSORY ISSUE THAT DOESN'T DEAL WITH -- I KNOW THERE IS
03:20:36PM CONCERN ON THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM AND FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN
03:20:40PM WAITING HERE ALL DAY.
03:20:41PM THIS IS NOT -- IF YOU WERE LOOKING -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
03:20:44PM TIME TO TALK ABOUT CUTTING TIME.
03:20:47PM IF YOU IT TALK ABOUT CUTTING TIMES -- WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS
03:20:51PM AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY.
03:20:52PM I DON'T SEE WHY --
03:20:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYTHING THAT IS A 20 OR 30-MINUTE
03:21:00PM CONVERSATION.
03:21:00PM WE ONLY HAVE AN HOUR MANISCALCO LIKE AN HOUR.
03:21:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: TAMPA UNION STATION 9 AND 10 --
03:21:07PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: DID WE HAVE A VOTE ON THAT DISCUSSION.
03:21:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
03:21:11PM MOTION TO PULL ITEM 21 -- CONTINUE -- SORRY.
03:21:15PM CONTINUE ITEM 1 BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
03:21:18PM SECONDED BY BOARD NEB CLENDENIN.
03:21:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO FEBRUARY 8.
03:21:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TO FEBRUARY 8.
03:21:23PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:21:24PM OPPOSED?
03:21:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: DO ROLL CALL.
03:21:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:21:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:21:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECONDED IT.
03:21:39PM CAN I VOTE AGAINST IT NOW?
03:21:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, YOU CAN.
03:21:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SAY NO.
03:21:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO -- I GET TO GO LAST.
03:21:47PM I AM SORRY.
03:21:50PM >> MR. CLENDENIN, YOU SAID NO, CORRECT?
03:21:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:21:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
03:21:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:21:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
03:21:58PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CLENDENIN, VIERA, HENDERSON
03:22:04PM VOTING NO.
03:22:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY --
03:22:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE REST
03:22:09PM OF THE AGENDA.
03:22:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
03:22:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
03:22:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T SEE MR. CITRO -- 17, MOVE IT TO NEXT
03:22:19PM MONTH.
03:22:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A CONTINUATION FROM LAST MONTH.
03:22:22PM CAN WE JUST VOTE ON IT EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT HERE?
03:22:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM READY TO GO.
03:22:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: GO WITH THE AGENDA THEN.
03:22:30PM BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE ANYTHING ELSE.
03:22:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S TRY --
03:22:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: 9 AND 10 I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
03:22:36PM THE REPORTS.
03:22:37PM BUT WHY DON'T WE GO IN ORDER AND THEN --
03:22:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KNOCK OUT EVERYTHING --
03:22:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE -- THE NEXT BIG ONE IS -- NEXT BIG ONE
03:22:51PM IS THE CDD REPORT.
03:22:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WILL BE A WHILE.
03:22:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW ABOUT THE CHAIR GOES ON WITH THE
03:22:57PM AGENDA AS SLATED.
03:22:58PM ALL RIGHT.
03:22:59PM LET'S GO.
03:23:00PM ERICA MOODY.
03:23:01PM >>ERICA MOODY: WE TRIED.
03:23:05PM GOOD AFTERNOON, AGAIN, ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
03:23:09PM THE NEXT ITEM IS AROUND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
03:23:13PM DISTRICT.
03:23:13PM THE CDD COMING TO PRESENT ON A FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AND SOME
03:23:17PM OF THE PUBLIC REALM AND CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ASK THE
03:23:22PM REPRESENTATIVES --
03:23:24PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: TO CLARIFY, NO CDD, GASWORX TO PRESENT.
03:23:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AREN'T THEY ONE IN THE SAME.
03:23:34PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:23:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: A CDD IN PROCESS THEY WILL MENTION TO US IN
03:23:43PM A MINUTE.
03:23:43PM THIS IS THE STEP LEADING TO THAT.
03:23:46PM AND SINCE THE CDD IS NOT THERE YET, THEN IT -- IT WILL BE BY
03:23:51PM THE TIME WE HEAR IT NEXT.
03:23:52PM I WILL LET THEM SAY IT.
03:23:54PM BUT, YES, IT IS NOT IN PLACE NOW, BUT IT IS ANTICIPATED TO
03:23:57PM BE THERE.
03:23:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST A PRESENTATION?
03:24:05PM >> THERE IS A REQUEST HERE.
03:24:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A REQUEST?
03:24:07PM >> YES, MA'AM.
03:24:07PM TYLER HUDSON, ADDRESS 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
03:24:12PM IN SOME WAYS THE REQUEST AND THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS
03:24:16PM DECADES IN THE MAKING.
03:24:17PM AS THIS BOARD KNOWS, ALL OF THE CRAs THAT YOU MENTION HAVE
03:24:21PM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
03:24:23PM AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT JUST LIKE THESE AREAS ARE ALL
03:24:26PM DIFFERENT AND YOU INHERITED THESE FROM YOUR SUCCESSORS ON
03:24:29PM THE CRA BOARD.
03:24:30PM ONE THING THAT IS CONSTANT IN EACH OF THE PLANS THAT THE
03:24:34PM CRAs WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, TWO IN YBOR, CENTRAL PARK AND
03:24:37PM DOWNTOWN, A CONSTANT REFRAIN IS ABOUT SUBSTANDARD BROKEN
03:24:42PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:24:42PM WATER PIPES, SEWER PIPES THAT NO LONGER WORK.
03:24:45PM BROKEN SIDEWALKS.
03:24:46PM MISSING SIDEWALKS.
03:24:47PM ROADS THAT ARE MISALIGNED.
03:24:49PM BUT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW TO FINALLY GET TO WORK
03:24:53PM AND FIXES THAT THROUGH A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
03:24:56PM WHICH I E-MAILED TO YOU EARLIER, FILED WITH THE CITY OF
03:25:00PM TAMPA.
03:25:00PM IT WILL BE APPROVED OR WE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE THAT COUNCIL
03:25:04PM APPROVES THAT IN JANUARY.
03:25:05PM SO OUR PRESENTATION IS TWO-FOLD.
03:25:07PM I AM ASKING TO ASK BRIAN LAMB WITH INFOMARK TO GIVE AN
03:25:12PM OVERVIEW WHAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS ARE AND WHAT
03:25:15PM THEY ARE NOT.
03:25:15PM HOW THEY MANAGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN OTHER
03:25:18PM PARTS OF TAMPA, OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND
03:25:21PM GRAHAM TERRELL, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER OF THE
03:25:25PM PROPERTY THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
03:25:28PM DISTRICT WILL TALK OF SPECIFICS OF THE STATE OF THE
03:25:31PM INFRASTRUCTURE NOW AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS
03:25:33PM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAKE WITH THREE CRA THAT IS WE ARE
03:25:37PM SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT FOR YBOR, DOWNTOWN AND CENTRAL PARK.
03:25:41PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIAN LAMB, 2005 PAN AM CIRCLE, TAMPA,
03:25:53PM FLORIDA.
03:25:54PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TO GO OVER THE BASIC OPERATIONS
03:25:57PM AND BENEFITS OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.
03:25:59PM WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE ADMINISTRATION AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
03:26:04PM TO 40 DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE.
03:26:06PM SO I PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION JUST TO KIND OF
03:26:10PM TOUCH THE BASICS AS TO THE -- THE VALUE OF A CDD ON A
03:26:15PM PROJECT.
03:26:15PM AND HERE, WE HAVE LISTED OUT THE -- THE DISTRICT'S OF
03:26:22PM SPECIAL PURPOSE GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHED 190 OF THE FLORIDA
03:26:25PM STATUTES.
03:26:26PM AND NEXT MONTH, THE PETITION WILL, COMING BEFORE THE CITY
03:26:31PM COMMISSION THAT IS FOR CONSIDERATION.
03:26:33PM THE -- THE PURPOSE OF THE DECISION STRICT IS TO PROVIDE
03:26:38PM PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS AND LANDOWNERS WITHIN THE
03:26:40PM DISTRICT.
03:26:41PM CDD MAY FINANCE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS ROADS,
03:26:45PM STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, CONSERVATION, STREET LIGHTS, PARKS.
03:26:50PM AND IN ADDITION, THEY ALSO WANT TO DEAL WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
03:26:54PM REMEDIATION, AND RECREATIONAL AMENITIES.
03:26:57PM THE CDD DOES NOT HAVE POLICE POWERS OR PLANNED USE
03:27:01PM REGULATORY POWERS AND LIMITED IN THOSE POWERS THAT ARE
03:27:04PM PROVIDED BY VIRTUE OF THE STATUTE, AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE A
03:27:08PM LITTLE OVER 500 DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
03:27:11PM AND THERE IS STILL A NEED FOR A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION TO BE
03:27:15PM LOCATED OVER THE PROJECT FOR PURPOSES OF DEED RESTRICTIONS.
03:27:19PM AND ARC REVIEW AND ENFORCEMENT.
03:27:23PM HOW IS THE CDD GOVERNED AND HOW DOES IT OPERATE?
03:27:32PM THE CDD IS GOVERNED BY A FIVE-MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
03:27:36PM THAT ARE ELECTED BY THE LANDOWNERS IN ITS DISTRICTS.
03:27:38PM THERE IS A PROCESS THERE OVER THE COURSE OF SIX TO
03:27:42PM EIGHT YEARS WHERE THOSE SEATS WILL BE FILLED BY QUALIFIED
03:27:48PM ELECTORS IN THE DISTRICT.
03:27:50PM BASICALLY REGISTERED VOTERS RESIDING IN THE COMMUNITY.
03:27:54PM ONCE THAT PROCESS BEGINS, THE TERMS ARE FOR FOUR YEARS AND
03:27:58PM WILL STAGGER ON THE EVEN YEAR ELECTION CYCLE.
03:28:01PM AND THE DISTRICT ITSELF AND THE SUPERVISORS ARE SUBJECT TO
03:28:09PM THE SAME FLORIDA STATE LAW, PUBLIC RECORDS LAW, AND CODE OF
03:28:14PM CODE OF ETHICS.
03:28:16PM AND THE PUBLIC HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE CITY'S RECORDS AND
03:28:20PM MEETINGS.
03:28:20PM AND ADDITIONALLY AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT IS REQUIRED ANNUALLY
03:28:24PM FOR REVIEW OF OPERATIONS, CONTRACTS AND EXPENSES.
03:28:27PM SO WITH THAT SUNSHINE LAW, PUBLIC RECORDS AND CODE OF ETHICS
03:28:33PM APPLY.
03:28:33PM SO WE OPERATE MUCH LIKE THIS BOARD -- THE CRA OVER THE CITY.
03:28:40PM THE PROCUREMENT AND PUBLIC BIDDING.
03:28:44PM THERE ARE MONETARY THRESHOLD AMOUNTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO BID
03:28:50PM OUT WORK PURSUANT TO FLORIDA LAW.
03:28:52PM AND THE BONDS ARE REPAID THAT WE WOULD ISSUE TO -- TO
03:28:58PM FINANCE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE BY LEVY NON-AD VALOREM OF
03:29:04PM DISTRICTS THAT BENEFIT FROM THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
03:29:07PM PAYMENT OF THE BONDS CAN ALSO -- CAN ALSO BE REPAID WITH
03:29:15PM PLEDGED TIF REVENUE.
03:29:17PM EACH YEAR, THE CDB SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS PLACED ON THE TAX ROLL
03:29:21PM FOR COLLECTION BY THE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR.
03:29:23PM AND HERE, THE BENEFITS OF A DISTRICT FOR THE PURPOSES OF
03:29:28PM DELIVERING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REALLY THE TRANSPARENCIES
03:29:37PM WITH THE SAME AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
03:29:39PM LIABLE IS LIMITED AND CAPPED AS IT RELATES TO THE TERMS OF
03:29:42PM SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY.
03:29:43PM WE DO HAVE -- THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A TAX EXEMPT STATUS
03:29:49PM FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES.
03:29:51PM AND COLLECTION ON THE TAX ROLL.
03:29:54PM A MUCH BETTER COLLECTION SUCCESS OF ASSOCIATION WHEN IT
03:29:57PM COMES TO THE OPERATION OF COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:29:59PM AND THEN -- FROM THERE, OUR -- OUR ASSESSMENTS ARE EQUAL TO
03:30:05PM THE PRIORITY OF AD VALOREM TAXES AND MORTGAGES AND LIENS
03:30:11PM EVEN IF THEY ARE RECORDED FIRST AS FAR AS THE ENFORCEMENT
03:30:14PM COLLECTION OF OUR ASSESSMENTS.
03:30:15PM OTHER EXAMPLES OF CDDs THAT UTILIZED THE LOCAL AGREEMENT
03:30:22PM STRUCTURE WITH OTHER CRAs.
03:30:25PM I JUST LISTED A FEW OF THOSE.
03:30:27PM AND PERHAPS GRAHAM, IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER SOME OF THE --
03:30:33PM SOME OF THE PROJECTS, THE PUBLIC STRUCTURE NOW?
03:30:40PM UNTIL THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:30:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:30:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
03:30:45PM TO COVER MY MIND TO SEE WHERE I AM AT HERE.
03:30:49PM THE CDD THEN HAS AN AREA GEOGRAPHICALLY YOU WILL PUT
03:30:53PM SOMETHING ON THE AD VALOREM FOR THEM TO APPROVE OR
03:30:57PM DISAPPROVE FOR THEM TO TAX THEMSELVES.
03:30:58PM IS THAT RIGHT?
03:31:01PM >> CORRECT.
03:31:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF THEY DON'T APPROVE, THE COURT CAN TAKE
03:31:04PM IT AWAY.
03:31:05PM >> GOES THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS OF TAXES.
03:31:07PM CERTIFICATES WILL BE SOLD ON THAT PROPERTY.
03:31:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S SAY THAT THIS IS A CDB, THIS ROOM
03:31:15PM HERE AND WE HAVE 25 PEOPLE HERE.
03:31:17PM THE MAJORITY -- I GUESS, THEY SAY 23 OUT OF 25 VOTE FOR IT.
03:31:23PM THEN YOU AUTOMATICALLY -- AND VOTED AGAINST IT?
03:31:28PM >> NO, SIR, PROVIDES 100% CONSENT.
03:31:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO CLEAR UP.
03:31:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:31:36PM MOTION?
03:31:38PM ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
03:31:38PM >> WE DO HAVE --
03:31:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MORE?
03:31:42PM HEY, I AM TRYING TO ROLL IT ALONG.
03:31:45PM I APOLOGIZE.
03:31:46PM >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
03:31:55PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:31:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HELLO.
03:31:57PM >> GRAHAM TERRELL, TAMPA APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US HERE
03:32:03PM TODAY.
03:32:04PM AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SHORT ON TIME, SO I AM GOING TO KEEP
03:32:07PM THIS --
03:32:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GUYS AND GIRLS.
03:32:13PM TWO GIRLS UP HERE.
03:32:14PM WOMEN.
03:32:14PM I AM JUST MISSING WITH YOU.
03:32:15PM >> SORRY.
03:32:16PM SO AS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, CDD.
03:32:20PM BUT, YES, IT IS STILL THE SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA THE GASWORX.
03:32:26PM THE TIME LAND OWNERSHIP AND SAME PEOPLE SUBJECT TO THE
03:32:30PM ASSESSMENTS.
03:32:31PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WITH THIS -- WITH THIS GROUP.
03:32:34PM YOU KNOW THE AREAS -- IT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
03:32:37PM SORT OF HEAVILY BLIGHTED EVEN BACK WHEN IT WAS -- FUNCTIONS
03:32:42PM AS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
03:32:43PM THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE WERE VERY LIMITED IN SCOPE.
03:32:45PM AND, OF COURSE, IT WAS THE BIG GAS MANUFACTURING PLANT IS
03:32:49PM THE NAME GASWORX THAT GAVE THE AREA ITS IDENTITY.
03:32:55PM ANOTHER PART OF THE -- OF THE GASWORX AREA IS ESSENTIAL
03:32:58PM CENTRAL PARK AS WELL.
03:32:59PM SO WE DO INCLUDE IN THERE THE ENCORE AREA.
03:33:04PM JUST TO THE EAST OF ENCORE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NEBRASKA
03:33:07PM AVENUE WHERE THE APARTMENTS WERE.
03:33:10PM OLD PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHOW THAT THE AREA IS A DENSE
03:33:15PM NEIGHBORHOOD, TIGHTLY PACKED.
03:33:16PM AT SOME POINT A GREAT GRID OF STREETS WHICH IS AN EXTENSION
03:33:20PM OF WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IN YBOR CITY.
03:33:22PM SO AS TYLER REFERENCED EARLIER, WE KIND OF HAVE A REALLY
03:33:29PM INTERESTED GEOGRAPHIC AREA WITH THE CRAS.
03:33:32PM WE ARE LOCATED IN FOUR CRAs AND PART IS NOT IN A CRA IN THE
03:33:38PM SOUTHEAST CORNER.
03:33:39PM HOW THE DEVELOPMENT BLOCK IS DIVIDED UP.
03:33:41PM WESTERNMOST IN CENTRAL PARK.
03:33:43PM THE PORTION IN THE CENTER AND THE SOUTH IS DOWNTOWN.
03:33:45PM AND THEN THE NORTHEAST PORTION IS YBOR.
03:33:48PM REALLY WE ARE TALKING OF THREE OF THOSE CRAs.
03:33:53PM YBOR, BURN.
03:33:55PM SMALL PIECE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AND NOT ALWAYS TALKING
03:33:59PM ABOUT ANYTHING WITHIN YBOR ONE CRA.
03:34:01PM WE WENT BACK AND TOOK A LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
03:34:04PM PLANS FOR EACH OF THOSE, CRA CITY TO DOWNTOWN -- YBOR CITY
03:34:12PM AND CENTRAL PARK AND HONED IN ON THE LANGUAGE IN HERE TALK
03:34:17PM OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE
03:34:19PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:34:19PM AS YOU WILL SEE HERE, OUR PRESENTATION IS REALLY ALL ABOUT
03:34:22PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:34:22PM VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION.
03:34:25PM THAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE PRIVATELY FINANCED BY OTHER
03:34:28PM MEANS.
03:34:29PM THIS IS REALLY HOW WE RE-CREATE THAT STREET GRID.
03:34:33PM PUT BACK IN PLACE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS MISSING TODAY.
03:34:35PM OR IN MANY CASES MANY SUBSTANDARD.
03:34:39PM YBOR CITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REFERENCED TO THE
03:34:43PM DETERIORATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS AND
03:34:45PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:34:46PM EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
03:34:50PM ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS, STREET LIGHTING,
03:34:55PM PUBLIC LANDSCAPING.
03:34:57PM ALL THESE THINGS, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
03:35:00PM YOU TALK THROUGH THESE AREAS THEY ARE LACKING AND SOME
03:35:04PM PICTURES OF THAT COMING UP IN A SECOND.
03:35:06PM IN CENTRAL PARK, VERY MUCH SIMILAR LANGUAGE.
03:35:09PM SIDEWALKS ARE INADEQUATE THROUGHOUT THE AREA, EXTREMELY POOR
03:35:13PM CONNECTIVITY DUE TO ENCLAVES.
03:35:15PM YOU KNOW LACK OF CONNECTIVITY.
03:35:16PM LACK OF JUST REALLY THE BASIC SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
03:35:20PM YOU EXPECT IN A NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:35:21PM AND EVEN WITHIN DOWNTOWN.
03:35:23PM YOU WOULD THINK OF DOWNTOWN AS REALLY A CDB AND REALLY THE
03:35:27PM TYPE OF PLACES WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE
03:35:30PM ART MUSEUM.
03:35:30PM THE BIG OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE PORTION OF DOWNTOWN THAT
03:35:34PM EXTENDS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NORTH WHERE GASWORX IS REALLY
03:35:37PM JUST SORT OF PART OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND PART OF AN AREA
03:35:42PM THAT IS VERY MUCH OVERLOOKED AND HAVEN'T HAD THAT MUCH
03:35:46PM INVESTMENT MADE.
03:35:47PM NOW GOING BACK TO WHAT -- AS A CDD WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED
03:35:51PM ON.
03:35:51PM SORT OF THE SIMILAR GOALS TO THE GASWORX PROJECT AS A WHOLE
03:35:55PM BUT FOCUSING AGAIN ON THE PUBLIC REALM AND HOW WE ARE GOING
03:35:59PM TO IMPROVE THAT.
03:36:00PM RECONNECT THE URBAN GRID.
03:36:01PM MAKE MOBILITY IMPROVEMENT.
03:36:03PM REPLACE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:36:05PM VERY IMPORTANT.
03:36:06PM ENHANCEMENT OF SAFETY WITH LIGHTING AND SIDEWALKS.
03:36:09PM EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
03:36:10PM THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT ONLY IMPROVEMENTS -- IMPROVEMENTS
03:36:14PM ARE NOT REALLY THERE TO SUPPORT OUR PROJECT, BUT ALSO THINGS
03:36:16PM LIKE CITY PARKS AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, 360 UNITS OF
03:36:21PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:36:22PM IN TERMS OF RESTORING THE STREET GRID, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON
03:36:26PM THIS MAP, WHERE THERE IS CURRENTLY MISSING SECTIONS OF
03:36:29PM STREET.
03:36:30PM IF YOU REALLY KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK AND THINK OF YBOR AS
03:36:33PM HAVING THAT REALLY GREAT KINDS OF TIGHT URBAN STREET GRID,
03:36:36PM AND THE WAY IT IS INTERRUPTED BY THE CSX AND NUCCIO PARKWAY
03:36:43PM AND URBAN RENEWAL TO THE WEST, THESE BLOCKS HAVE MISSING
03:36:49PM LINKS.
03:36:49PM PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING IS REBUILDING STREETS THAT ARE
03:36:52PM EXISTING TODAY AND ADDING SECTIONS OF STREETS THAT ARE
03:36:55PM MISSING.
03:36:55PM IN TERMS OF MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS, THE BIGGER PART OF THAT
03:36:59PM IS THINGS LIKE TRAILS, CONNECTING THE EXISTING
03:37:03PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:37:03PM THE GREEN LINE AND THE SELMON FREEWAY AND LINK TOGETHER AND
03:37:10PM A REALISTIC NETWORK OF TRAILS.
03:37:12PM FITTING IN THE NEW STREETCAR.
03:37:14PM STREETCAR RUNS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA AND THE
03:37:18PM PART OF MAKING THIS SUCCESSFUL IS ADDING A STREET CAR STOP.
03:37:21PM SO THESE ARE SOME IMAGES OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IN
03:37:25PM TERMS OF -- WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF A
03:37:29PM HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT.
03:37:30PM STREETS THAT ARE REALLY INADEQUATE.
03:37:33PM THERE IS NO CURVE.
03:37:34PM IT IS CLEARLY STORMWATER BECOMES A HUGE PROBLEM.
03:37:38PM WE GET FLOODING ISSUE.
03:37:39PM LACK OF SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE.
03:37:41PM EVEN WHEN WE HAVE SIDEWALKS, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE OVERHEAD
03:37:44PM UTILITY WITH POLES IN THE MIDDLE OF.
03:37:47PM THE IMAGE IN THE TOP RIGHT, EXAMPLE, WOULD BE A REAL
03:37:51PM PROCLAMATION TO ANYONE WITH A WHEELCHAIR AND PUSHING IN THE
03:37:55PM MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK.
03:37:56PM THIS IS GENERALLY, YOU KNOW -- THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE IT ON
03:38:00PM THE SURFACE.
03:38:00PM UNDERGROUND, WE HAVE A LOT OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
03:38:05PM AND MOST OF THE AREAS THAT THE PIPES WERE PUT IN 100 YEARS
03:38:08PM AGO.
03:38:08PM SO CLAY PIPES FOR WATER AND SEWER AND AGAIN STORMWATER THAT
03:38:14PM IS REALLY INADEQUATE AND BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF A SERIOUS
03:38:18PM PROBLEM.
03:38:18PM PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AS I KEPT MENTIONING IS REALLY A
03:38:21PM BIG FOCUS FOR US.
03:38:23PM WE ARE PUTTING IN 3.6 MILES OF NEW SIDEWALKS.
03:38:26PM THOSE THAT ARE THERE TODAY, NOT A.D.A. COMPLIANT AND THE
03:38:32PM SUBSTATION THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CDD AREA.
03:38:36PM AND OBVIOUSLY FROM THAT, WE HAVE POWER POLES THAT ARE
03:38:38PM SERVING THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS.
03:38:41PM SO THEIR TRANSMISSION LINES AS WELL AS THE DISTRIBUTION
03:38:44PM LINES WITH ALL THAT POWER REQUIRES POLES UNLESS IT GOES
03:38:48PM UNDERGROUND.
03:38:49PM WE TALKING OF PUTTING THIS ON THE GROUND WHICH IS VERY
03:38:53PM IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF STORM PROTECTION.
03:38:55PM SO THIS IS REALLY DOWN TO THE COSTS EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE
03:39:00PM TALKING ABOUT.
03:39:01PM AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS BROKEN DOWN INTO PHASES.
03:39:04PM BUT THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $43 MILLION TO REBUILD
03:39:08PM ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE CDD.
03:39:10PM THEN WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF FINANCING, RIGHT.
03:39:14PM THE MONEY DOESN'T COME FREE.
03:39:16PM WE HAVE TO ISSUE THE BONDS AND SERVICE THOSE BONDS ANOTHER
03:39:19PM $21 MILLION IN ADDITION.
03:39:20PM AND THE ENTIRE COST OF THIS PROJECT IS CLOSE TO $65 MILLION.
03:39:25PM GOING THROUGH EACH OF THE CRAs AND THIS IS THE TAX INCREMENT
03:39:35PM THAT WE MADE TO ALL OF THE CRAs AND I WILL SHOW YOU IN A
03:39:39PM SECOND THE OUTREACH WITH EACH CRA.
03:39:41PM IN TERMS OF YBOR CITY, THERE IS A TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF
03:39:44PM $13.8 MILLION OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:39:46PM THOSE COSTS WILL BE INCURRED BETWEEN '24 AND '26.
03:39:50PM BASICALLY STARTING NEXT YEAR.
03:39:51PM AND THE REQUEST TO REIMBURSE FROM '26 THROUGH '33.
03:39:57PM IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE ON OUR REQUEST HERE TODAY IS
03:40:01PM EVERYTHING WE ARE ASKING FOR IS COMING FROM THE GASWORX
03:40:04PM VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT.
03:40:05PM WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY CRA TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF
03:40:11PM ITS COFFERS AND PAY US.
03:40:12PM WE WILL MAKE THE INVESTMENT UP FRONT, PUT THE MONEY IN AND
03:40:15PM GET THE TIF BACK ONCE THE TAX IS GENERATED BY THE VERTICAL
03:40:19PM DEVELOPMENT WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT THE TOTAL TAX INCREMENT
03:40:27PM TO IT THE PORTION TO CRA OF 20 MILLION.
03:40:30PM WHAT THAT MEANS A $6 MILLION SURPLUS OF TIF GENERATED HAND
03:40:34PM THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE
03:40:36PM HAPPENING IN AND AROUND US, INCLUDING MANY OF THE -- IN
03:40:44PM DOWNTOWN, THE ESTIMATED COST THERE IS $15 MILLION.
03:40:48PM AGAIN THE COST WILL INCUR '24-'27 AND THE PAYBACK FROM
03:40:55PM '28-'34.
03:40:55PM DOWNTOWN, MUCH DENSER PORTION OF THE GASWORX PROJECT THAT
03:41:00PM WILL GENERATE $45 MILLION IN INCREMENTAL TAXES.
03:41:04PM A $30 MILLION SURPLUS WE WILL BE GENERATING FROM OUR
03:41:08PM PROJECT.
03:41:08PM CENTRAL PARK, THE ACTUAL ASK THERE IS SMALLER.
03:41:12PM ONLY $3.6 MILLION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:41:14PM THAT IS ALREADY SORT OF UNDER WAY FROM MANY RESPECTS WITH
03:41:19PM THE FIRST PHASES OF DEVELOPMENTS.
03:41:21PM THAT WILL GO THROUGH NEXT YEAR AND CDD REIMBURSEMENT WILL
03:41:24PM HAPPEN IN '25-'27.
03:41:27PM MONEY COMING BACK TO THE CDD.
03:41:31PM COMING FROM THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT OF GASWORX AND
03:41:35PM INFRASTRUCTURE WITH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
03:41:36PM IN CENTRAL PARK, WE WILL END UP WITH ADDS 33 MILLION
03:41:40PM SURPLUS.
03:41:41PM THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THAT INFORMATION PLUS THE
03:41:47PM UTILIZATION OF THE TIF.
03:41:49PM SO IN TOTAL, WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GENERATE
03:41:53PM $101 MILLION -- $102 MILLION OF TIF.
03:41:59PM $32 MILLION BROKEN BY EACH OF THE CRAS AND AN ESTIMATE OF
03:42:07PM 69.6.
03:42:08PM DOES NOT CLOUDY AS I SHOWED YOU UPON THE MAP OF THE PARCELS,
03:42:13PM GENERATING ANOTHER $47 MILLION.
03:42:14PM TAXES.
03:42:15PM SO OVERALL, THE ADDITIONAL CITY REVENUE IS COMING FROM OUR
03:42:19PM PROJECT ARE ABOUT $116 MILLION.
03:42:22PM AND, AGAIN WONDERFUL, THE REQUEST HERE TODAY IS $32 MILLION.
03:42:27PM JUST FINALLY OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO WITH OUR
03:42:32PM PROJECT AND HAVE BEEN DOING FOR MANY YEARS AS YOU GUYS KNOW
03:42:35PM THAT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE SURROUNDING
03:42:39PM COMMUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY THE THREE CRAs THAT WE ARE WORKING
03:42:43PM WITH HERE.
03:42:43PM WE PRESENTED ALL THIS INFORMATION ORIGINALLY TO EACH
03:42:53PM CRA, CAC BACK IN SPRING AND MARCH.
03:42:54PM AND THEN CAME BACK MORE RECENTLY IN NOVEMBER TO MEET WITH
03:42:57PM EACH GROUP.
03:43:01PM EACH GROUP RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE TIF REQUEST.
03:43:05PM WE FEEL LIKE WE SORT OF ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY.
03:43:07PM PUT THE BUY IN.
03:43:09PM I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT
03:43:11PM IMPROVEMENTS AND INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
03:43:13PM AGAIN IT IS ALL FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL WITHIN THE
03:43:17PM AUSPICES OF THE P.U.D.
03:43:20PM WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
03:43:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:43:22PM WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOLLOWED BY
03:43:26PM MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, AND -- OH, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.
03:43:29PM I APOLOGIZE.
03:43:31PM SO BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, MANISCALCO, CLENDENIN -- MANISCALCO
03:43:35PM NOONTIME, I AM GOOD.
03:43:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE CONFUSING ME WITH THESE LIGHTS
03:43:39PM ON.
03:43:39PM CUT YOUR LIGHTS OFF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK.
03:43:42PM THIS IS GOOD NEWS.
03:43:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FAIR.
03:43:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
03:43:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION.
03:43:51PM QUITE HONESTLY THE RECONNECTING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GRID IS
03:43:55PM SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.
03:43:57PM THE MOBILITY ISSUES, THE STORMWATER, THE SIDEWALKS.
03:44:01PM THESE ARE AREAS -- THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO ALL
03:44:04PM OVER THE CITY.
03:44:05PM I AM NOT GOING TO SAY WE DON'T.
03:44:08PM BUT WHAT -- WHAT MAKES THIS PALATABLE TO ME, YOU ARE NOT
03:44:16PM ASKING FOR ANY MONEY UP FRONT.
03:44:17PM YOU ARE STRICTLY ASKING FOR REBATES.
03:44:19PM IF YOU DON'T BUILD IT, WE DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING.
03:44:22PM >> CORRECT.
03:44:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THE BIGGER THING FOR ME IS THE ROI, THE
03:44:29PM RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON THIS.
03:44:30PM LIKE YOU SAID APPROVING THE -- THE CENTRAL PARK ONE WAS MY
03:44:34PM FAVORITE.
03:44:35PM IT WAS LIKE -- WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE 3.6 MILLION IN TI
03:44:39PM AND EXPECTING $33 MILLION.
03:44:41PM YES, WE ARE, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.
03:44:44PM I -- SO -- SO I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS.
03:44:47PM AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NOT APPROVED APPEAR -- -- I GUESS, A
03:44:55PM SCHEME YET THAT INVOLVES THIS, THE REIMBURSEMENT OF TIF
03:44:59PM DOLLARS, I THINK I AM FINE WITH IT FOR THIS PROJECT.
03:45:01PM AND JUST BECAUSE OF THE MASSIVE RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT WE
03:45:06PM WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE IN FUTURE TAX DOLLARS WHICH THAT
03:45:09PM DEVELOPMENT IS BRINGING FORWARD.
03:45:11PM AND SOLING PROBLEMS THAT WE ALREADY -- THAT WE HAVE
03:45:18PM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WILL BE SOLVING FOR US SO
03:45:21PM WE CAN PUT OUR TAX DOLLARS RIGHT NOW INTO OTHER PARTS OF THE
03:45:24PM CITY THAT NEED THOSE SAME SERVICES.
03:45:26PM SO THANK YOU.
03:45:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A LITTLE BIT FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:45:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY FOR CLENDENIN.
03:45:33PM I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT MY WHOLE LIFE.
03:45:37PM HONESTLY AFTER COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SPOKE, NOT MUCH TO SAY.
03:45:42PM PEOPLE LISTENING, A GOOD SERVICE FOR THE TAXPAYERS OF THE
03:45:46PM CITY OF TAMPA.
03:45:46PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- WE ARE ABLE TO IMPROVE
03:45:48PM INFRASTRUCTURE, REBUILD THESE STREETS, REBUILD THE GRID, FIX
03:45:52PM WHAT IS UNDERGROUND WITHOUT THE CITY HAVING TO ISSUE BONDS
03:45:55PM TO DO IT AND INCUR THAT EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYERS.
03:45:59PM THIS IS -- THIS IS A WIN-WIN-WIN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:46:04PM APPLAUD YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:46:08PM AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THIS, IF WE ARE READY FOR THAT,
03:46:12PM MADAM CHAIR.
03:46:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
03:46:14PM BOARD MEMBER CARSON.
03:46:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CDD SLIDE IN
03:46:19PM THE BEGINNING.
03:46:20PM IS IT STILL POSSIBLE?
03:46:23PM >> THE MAP?
03:46:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE EXPLANATION OF THE CDD.
03:46:27PM >> OH, ALL THE WAY BACK.
03:46:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
03:46:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT AGAIN.
03:46:38PM I KNOW YOUR COLLEAGUE WENT THROUGH THIS.
03:46:41PM CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?
03:46:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BETTER
03:46:49PM SLIDES, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
03:46:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYWAY, JUST TO TALK OVER IT -- IT SAYS ON
03:46:54PM THE SLIDE, THE BENEFITS OF THE CDD.
03:46:55PM THERE.
03:46:56PM RIGHT THERE.
03:46:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:46:57PM >> OKAY.
03:46:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERYBODY THAT WATCHES ME KNOW THAT
03:47:00PM TRANSPARENCY IS A BIG ISSUE FOR ME
03:47:02PM YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT BEFORE, I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST
03:47:07PM DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
03:47:08PM THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPER SUBSIDY.
03:47:11PM IT IS A DEVELOPER HELPING US INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:47:14PM WE HAD THAT IN THE PAST IN THIS CITY BEFORE BUT THE PUBLIC
03:47:19PM WAS VERY UNHAPPY AND UPSET HOW THE DEALS WERE PUT TOGETHER.
03:47:24PM AND THE WAY THEY WERE PUT TOGETHER WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, IT
03:47:26PM LOOKED LIKE DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
03:47:29PM WHAT THIS DOES IS CREATE AN EXTRA STEP WHICH IS THE CDD.
03:47:34PM THE CDD PROVIDES THE TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE
03:47:38PM THAT THE PUBLIC'S MONEY IS USED CORRECTLY.
03:47.:41PM I WILL SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE TEAM -- THE DEVELOPMENT
03:47:44PM TEAM FROM PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
03:47:45PM AN EXCELLENT STEP THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO DO.
03:47:50PM AN EXTRA EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC ACE MONEY IN WATCHED
03:47:54PM CORRECTLY, SPENT CORRECTLY, AND MEETINGS AND DECISIONS ARE
03:47:57PM TRANSPARENT.
03:47:58PM SO I AM -- I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE PUBLIC I AM OKAY AT
03:48:02PM LEAST MOVING THIS TO THE NEXT STAGE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT A
03:48:05PM DIRECT DEVELOPER SUBSIDY.
03:48:07PM IT IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:48:08PM AND HAS TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT -- WHICH THE CITY HAS
03:48:12PM NEVER SEEN IN A DEAL LIKE THIS BEFORE.
03:48:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
03:48:15PM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
03:48:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:48:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WAS ALREADY -- BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:48:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BOND COST SO WE CAN GET STARTED ON THIS,
03:48:28PM AM I CORRECT?
03:48:30PM SO MUCH FOR DEVELOPMENT --
03:48:32PM >> THERE IS THE COST FOR ACTUAL -- THE HARD COST OF THE
03:48:35PM DEVELOPMENT AND THE COST OF FINANCING THE PROJECT, YES.
03:48:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT A GROUP THERE FOR $20 SOME MILLION
03:48:41PM AND LOOKING AT IT.
03:48:42PM WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU.
03:48:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HAS ONE MORE
03:48:48PM QUESTION.
03:48:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF I MISSED THIS.
03:48:50PM IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE CITY IS PUTTING IN, YOU ARE PUTTING
03:48:54PM MONEY INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:48:54PM >> YES.
03:48:55PM IF YOU REMEMBER, THE $65 MILLION TOTAL COST OUTSIDE OF
03:49:01PM THE TIF WILL COME FROM US.
03:49:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU ALL SOLD -- SOLD YOUR DEVELOPMENT OR
03:49:07PM DECIDED NOT TO DEVELOP.
03:49:08PM WHO OWNS THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTED IN?
03:49:11PM >> THE INFRASTRUCTURE OVER TIME ONCE IT IS BUILT WILL BE
03:49:15PM DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR THE MOST PART, WHICH ARE THINGS
03:49:18PM THAT DEDICATED WILL BE IN PUBLIC EASEMENTS AND THE CDD WILL
03:49:22PM BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE.
03:49:23PM THE CDD WILL KIND OF LIVE ON REGARDLESS OF WHO THE
03:49:27PM INDIVIDUAL IS.
03:49:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT
03:49:35PM -- NOT LIKE SOME OF THE PROPOSALS.
03:49:36PM WE ARE NOT SUBSIDIZING A BUILDING.
03:49:40PM SPENDING MONEY ON ROADS, SIDEWALKS.
03:49:42PM AND FOR THE MOST PART THE CITY WILL OWN AND WHATEVER THEY
03:49:45PM DON'T OWN WILL W A CDD THAT WILL HAVE PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.
03:49:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND
03:49:54PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:49:57PM I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSION.
03:49:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:49:59PM OPPOSED?
03:50:00PM CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION THAT WAS NOT
03:50:02PM COLORFUL BUT IT PASSED.
03:50:03PM >> HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
03:50:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
03:50:05PM SO WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WE NEED TO -- BOARD
03:50:09PM MEMBER -- DIRECTOR MOODY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET
03:50:13PM THROUGH -- IT IS 3:50.
03:50:15PM AND -- WHAT CAN WE --
03:50:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE JUST HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
03:50:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DID, NOW THAT -- WE DID, BOARD MEMBER
03:50:28PM CARSON.
03:50:28PM I WANTED TO MOVE ALONG, BUT NOW THAT.
03:50:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SUGGEST WE JUST MOVE.
03:50:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: KEEP IT GOING.
03:50:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEXT ONE COULD TAKE A LONG TIME OR SHORT
03:50:38PM TIME.
03:50:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING THIS TO FEBRUARY.
03:50:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE WE CAN DO THAT ONE AND CRP
03:50:47PM TOGETHER, I MEAN, RIGHT?
03:50:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION COMING FORWARD -- OKAY, THAT
03:50:52PM -- THAT I DIDN'T -- I WAS NOT -- I DID NOT PUT A TIME ON
03:50:56PM LIKE I WAS SUPPOSED TO.
03:50:57PM IT IS MY FAULT.
03:51:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE CRP?
03:51:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:51:03PM IN ORDER TO HEAR THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER.
03:51:07PM I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.
03:51:09PM I BELIEVE THE CRP IS COMING FORWARD IN -- WE NEED TO HAVE IT
03:51:13PM READY --
03:51:13PM >>ERICA MOODY: THEY ARE NOT READY TO COME FORWARD BUT READY
03:51:17PM TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD.
03:51:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THEY HAVE THIS ON THE
03:51:21PM AGENDA TODAY AND I WOULD PUT THIS -- I WOULD PROPOSE
03:51:24PM SCHEDULING THIS ON A DIFFERENT WAY, NOT ON THE SAME DAY.
03:51:27PM IF YOU ARE -- IF YOU ARE PLANNING YOUR FAMILY VACATION, YOU
03:51:30PM DON'T AIR IS, OH, WELL, SHOULD WE STAY IN FIVE-STAR HOTELS?
03:51:34PM SHOULD WE TRAVEL TO EUROPE?
03:51:36PM SHOULD WE SAY IN EXPENSIVE DINNER AS SOON AS WE SAY WE HAVE
03:51:39PM $500 THAT WE CAN SPEND ON VACATION AND DECIDE WHERE TO GO
03:51:42PM BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE.
03:51:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR --
03:51:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT
03:51:50PM CONVERSATIONS.
03:51:51PM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE BEFORE THEY
03:51:55PM SPEND ON.
03:51:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THEIR REPORT,
03:51:58PM THE CRP.
03:51:58PM THEIR REPORT IS DONE.
03:52:00PM WE PAID THEM.
03:52:02PM THEY ARE OUR CONSULT STANTES.
03:52:03PM I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A REPORT.
03:52:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IN THIS CASE, NOT JUST $500 MORE MY
03:52:09PM YEARLY VACATION, IT IS -- OKAY, WE CAN SAVE UP FOR THESE
03:52:13PM THINGS.
03:52:15PM WE HAVE TIME DO IT.
03:52:16PM TO LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO BEFORE DECIDING TO
03:52:21PM KNEECAP OURSELVES.
03:52:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PLUS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT COMES
03:52:26PM ALONG WITH THIS DECISION, RIGHT?
03:52:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME -- LET ME, PLEASE -- I THINK THIS IS
03:52:30PM THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM THAT WE COULD DECIDE THE WHOLE TERM
03:52:33PM WE ARE IN CITY COUNCIL.
03:52:34PM THE MAYOR TRIED TO RAISE TAXES THAT WOULD HAVE GENERATE $45
03:52:40PM MILLION A YEAR.
03:52:40PM THIS COULD GENERATE 20 MILLION WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.
03:52:43PM THERE IS A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND ASK THE COUNTY TO CHANGE
03:52:48PM IT.
03:52:48PM M MISNOMER THAT WE WILL LOSE COUNTY MONEY.
03:52:52PM ONLY COUNTY MONEY IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA IS FOR WATER STREET.
03:52:57PM THE REST OF IT IS NOT THERE.
03:52:58PM AND ALSO -- BEFORE SOMEBODY SAYS IT IN MORRIS'S MEMO, AT THE
03:53:05PM END OF IT HOW THE COUNTY CAN OPEN UP AND TELL US TO CUT BACK
03:53:08PM THE OTHERS.
03:53:08PM THEY CAN, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO GET OUR APPROVAL.
03:53:11PM THEY CAN'T GET IT WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL AND OF COURSE WE WILL
03:53:15PM NOT VOTE FOR THAT.
03:53:16PM EVERYTHING IS MOOT.
03:53:18PM CITIZENS THAT ARE SUFFERING.
03:53:19PM PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING IN SULFUR SPRINGS.
03:53:23PM WE HAVE PEOPLE SUFFERING IN UNIVERSITY AREA.
03:53:26PM PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA WITH ROADS FALLING APART AND PARKS
03:53:31PM FALLING APART THAT CAN'T DRIVE DOWN THEIR ROADS.
03:53:34PM NOTHING ON THE LIST THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOLVING THE
03:53:37PM BASIC NEEDS OF OUR CITY.
03:53:38PM ALL I AM ASKING --
03:53:42PM >> WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY AND CAN'T KEEP KICKING THE CAN
03:53:45PM DOWN THE ROAD, WE HAVE TO FIX THIS.
03:53:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AREN'T THERE OPPORTUNITIES IN DOWNTOWN
03:53:49PM CRA THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED?
03:53:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: PLENTY OF THINGS WE CAN SPEND MONEY ON.
03:53:54PM BUT IS THAT MORE IMPORTANT THAN HELPING SULPHUR SPRINGS.
03:53:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LOOKS LIKE WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON NUMBER
03:54:01PM 8 TODAY.
03:54:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER HALF HOUR.
03:54:05PM NO WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS TO WHAT NEEDS TO
03:54:07PM BE DISCUSSED.
03:54:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET ME -- I MEAN --
03:54:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ATTORNEY MORRIS MASSEY.
03:54:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE MEMO AND
03:54:14PM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL HELP OR HURT THE DISCUSSION.
03:54:17PM BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
03:54:19PM THIS BOARD BY ITSELF CANNOT DECIDE TO REDUCE THE CITY'S
03:54:24PM CONTRIBUTION OR THE AMOUNT WE PUT IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
03:54:28PM TWO THINGS.
03:54:28PM WE ARE GOVERNED BY STATE LAW, WHICH SAYS YOU CAN REDUCE IT
03:54:32PM -- THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CAN DO IT.
03:54:33PM NO THE CRA BOARD.
03:54:35PM YOU AS CITY COUNCIL CAN DO IT AND DOWN TO 50% IS THE FLOOR.
03:54:41PM THE OTHER ITEM WE ARE GOVERNED BY IS THE INTERLOCAL
03:54:44PM AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
03:54:47PM THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CRA, CITY OF TAMPA AND
03:54:51PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
03:54:51PM AND THE PERCENTAGES OF THE CONTRIBUTION INTO EACH CRAs AND
03:54:59PM HOW LONG THEY ARE GOING TO EXIST.
03:55:00PM HOW YOU CAN CREATE NEW ONES.
03:55:02PM HOW YOU CAN INCREASE THE PRES AND AREAS OF THAT ARE GOVERNED
03:55:07PM BY THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
03:55:09PM IN ORDER TO AMEND.
03:55:11PM AND IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT INTO
03:55:14PM THE DOWNTOWN CRA, THAT WOULD AMENDMENT TO THE INTERLOCAL.
03:55:19PM REALLY THE MOST THAT YOU ALL CAN DO TODAY IF YOU WANT TO
03:55:22PM TAKE SOME ACTION IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK AND THE
03:55:25PM DIRECTOR TO THEN START NEGOTIATING WITH THE COUNTY.
03:55:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
03:55:32PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOTHING CAN HAPPEN.
03:55:33PM YOU CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON IT TODAY.
03:55:35PM THE OTHER THING THAT MY MEMO DOES SAY THAT IS ALIGNED WITH
03:55:42PM THE ITEM BEING DISCUSSED.
03:55:43PM BEFORE YOU ALL DECIDE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY CAP,
03:55:46PM THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DOWNTOWN CRA, YOU HAVE TO
03:55:49PM LOOK AT WHAT WE ALREADY COMMITTED IN DOWNTOWN WHICH IS QUITE
03:55:52PM A LOT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
03:55:54PM AND IN FACT, I BELIEVE MISS MOODY HAS SOME INFORMATION THAT
03:55:58PM SHOWS THAT UNTIL 2029, WE REALLY CAN'T CUT THE CONTRIBUTION
03:56:02PM TO DOWNTOWN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
03:56:04PM AND THEN IF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO
03:56:09PM DO IN THE FUTURE IN THE UPDATE OF THE CRP.
03:56:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.
03:56:14PM ALL IT WOULD TO DO ASK THEM TO COME BACK.
03:56:18PM AND THEY WILL HAVE TALKED TO THE COUNTY AND COME BACK WITH A
03:56:21PM DOCUMENT.
03:56:21PM WE CAN CHANGE THE PERCENTAGES.
03:56:23PM WE CAN DECIDE TO REJECT IT.
03:56:24PM IF YOU WANT TO CUT THE CONVERSATION SHORT, I CAN MAKE THAT
03:56:27PM MOTION OR WE CAN CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT IT.
03:56:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S HEAR FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO
03:56:31PM AND THEN BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
03:56:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
03:56:34PM I WON'T GO INTO DEEP DISCUSSION.
03:56:35PM CAPPING THE CRA AT WHATEVER PERCENT IS TO -- IS TO FREE UP
03:56:40PM MONEY TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT?
03:56:43PM IS THAT THE GOAL?
03:56:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:56:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY -- I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO DO
03:56:48PM THAT IN GENERAL; HOWEVER, ONCE YOU PUT MONEY IN THE GENERAL
03:56:52PM FUND --
03:56:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: CITY COUNCIL HAS CHARTER HAS CONTROL OF IT.
03:56:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THE MAYOR -- MY TRUST IS THE CURRENT
03:56:58PM OR FUTURE MAYOR OR WHATEVER SAYS I WANT TO DEDICATE THIS --
03:57:02PM I KNOW WE CAN REJECT IT AS THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHAT NOT,
03:57:06PM BUT THERE IS NO -- I DON'T WANT TO GIVE FALSE HOPE THAT SAYS
03:57:09PM WE DID THIS AND WE ARE GOING TO PAVE YOUR ROADS WHICH I WANT
03:57:12PM TO DO.
03:57:13PM AS THE E-MAILS CAME THROUGH, I AGREE WITH THEM.
03:57:15PM PAVE OUR ROADS.
03:57:17PM FIX OUR PARKS.
03:57:18PM FIX OUR SIDEWALK.
03:57:19PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE INVESTING?
03:57:22PM MIGHT ISSUE YES AS THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT
03:57:27PM WHO SAY THAT'S A FUTURE MAYOR OR CURRENT MAYOR WILL SAY I
03:57:31PM WANT TO MOVE THIS TO THIS, NUMBER ONE.
03:57:34PM NUMBER TWO, I MENTIONED C.I.T.
03:57:38PM RENEWING THE C.I.T.
03:57:41PM IF THAT GETS RENEWED.
03:57:43PM WE DEDICATE TO SPENDING THOSE MONIES ON PAVING THE ROADS.
03:57:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS A COUNTY ISSUE.
03:57:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A BROADER DISCUSSION.
03:57:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT IT GETS BACK ON
03:57:52PM THERE.
03:57:52PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND THEN BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
03:57:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:57:57PM I THINK FOR SUCH A BIG ISSUE TO TAKE A VOTE ON ANYTHING
03:58:01PM SUBSTANTIVE.
03:58:02PM THE THING SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
03:58:05PM SPENDING HOUR AND A HALF ON EACH TOPIC AND SPEND TEN MINUTES
03:58:08PM ON A HUGE TOPIC WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR FOUR YEARS.
03:58:10PM THIS CRA BOARD HAS NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER -- CORRECT ME IF
03:58:14PM I'M WRONG, NEVER, EVER VOTED CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
03:58:18PM WE HAVE NEVER DONE THAT AND KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE MONEY
03:58:21PM ON WHAT WE ARE SPENDING ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND YET WE KEEP
03:58:25PM ON TALKING OF CAPPING IT.
03:58:28PM THAT IS INCONSISTENT.
03:58:29PM WE NEED TO HAVE A LARGER DISCUSSION ON THESE ISSUES.
03:58:31PM I ALWAYS VOTED TO SUPPORT CAP WILLING THE CRA, NOT
03:58:35PM CHANNELSIDE FOR OTHER DISTINCTION LEGAL REASONS.
03:58:41PM I VOTE THAT WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE THIS TO NEXT MONTH TO
03:58:43PM HAVE A PROPER DISCUSSION.
03:58:44PM WE HAVE REQUIRED APPROVALS WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH.
03:58:47PM THESE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY SERIOUS ISSUES.
03:58:50PM HE SUPPORT THIS.
03:58:51PM I SUPPORTED THIS FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
03:58:53PM I HOPE TO SUPPORT SOME FORM OF IT TODAY, BUT WE SHOULDN'T
03:58:56PM HAVE A VOTE THAT SETS US UP FOR FAILURE, BECAUSE A BUNCH OF
03:59:00PM PEOPLE WROTE US.
03:59:01PM OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY GOT TO THEM SAYING YOU ARE RAISING OUR
03:59:04PM TAXES.
03:59:05PM TAKE ALL THIS MONEY FROM DAYTIME AND PAVE OUR ROADS AND GIVE
03:59:09PM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD A DAIRY QUEEN.
03:59:11PM OKAY.
03:59:11PM ALL I AM SAYING WE NEED TO GIVE THE RIGHT EXPECTATIONS TO
03:59:14PM PEOPLE AND HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF DISCUSSION, RIGHT.
03:59:16PM AND THAT WILL TAKE TIME.
03:59:17PM THAT MUCH IS OBVIOUS.
03:59:19PM S THAT ALE ALL I AM SAYING.
03:59:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARDS MEMBER HURTAK, PLEASE.
03:59:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE DAIRY QUEEN.
03:59:27PM I AM ALL ABOUT THAT.
03:59:28PM BUT -- YES, WE NEED NOR TIME TO DO THIS, BUT I AGREE WITH
03:59:33PM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO ON WHEN WE REDUCE IT, WHAT -- YOU
03:59:36PM KNOW, WHERE CAN IT GO.
03:59:38PM SO I HAVE A SECONDARY MOTION THAT DOES LOOK AT -- I WANTED
03:59:43PM TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
03:59:44PM AND I WANTED TO MAKE THE MOTION AND I CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO
03:59:47PM CONTINUE TO COME BACK WITH THIS, BUT I WANT TO TALK OF
03:59:51PM CAPPING -- CAPPING CHANNELSIDE AND TO COUNCILMEMBER -- AND
03:59:57PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA'S POINT, YES, WE CAN'T CAP THAT WITHOUT
04:00:01PM LOSING SOME OF THAT MONEY.
04:00:02PM HERE IS THE THING.
04:00:02PM IT IS COUNTY TURN.
04:00:03PM WHAT DOES THE COUNTY WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE?
04:00:07PM THEY WANT US TO TAKE OUR ROADS BACK.
04:00:09PM SO IF WE CAN COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO -- TO
04:00:12PM PROMISE THAT MONEY FIXING ROADS, WE ARE SOLVING BOTH OF
04:00:20PM THESE PROBLEMS.
04:00:20PM I MENTIONED THIS A COUPLE OF CRAs AGO, A DEDICATED REVENUE
04:00:25PM SOURCE OF FIXING ROADS THAT THE COUNTY OWNS AND MIGHT I ADD,
04:00:29PM THE CONSTITUENT THAT SPOKES TALKED OF HOWARD, ROME,
04:00:34PM COLUMBUS.
04:00:34PM WE DON'T OWN ANY OF THOSE ROADS.
04:00:36PM THE COUNTY OWNS THOSE ROADS.
04:00:38PM IF WE CAN WORK ON A CAPPING A CHANNELSIDE CRA.
04:00:42PM I TALKED TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS.
04:00:43PM I TALKED TO VIC AT MOBILITY ABOUT THIS.
04:00:47PM AND TALKED TO THE LAWYERS ABOUT THIS.
04:00:48PM THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN WORK ON DOING SOMETHING
04:00:51PM LIKE THIS GOING FORWARD THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD CREATE THAT
04:00:54PM POT OF MONEY THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING FOR.
04:01:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA?
04:01:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION TO A POINT.
04:01:06PM THE CRAs WERE SET FOR STANDARD -- TO MAKE EVERYTHING
04:01:13PM MORE AMICABLE AND BETTER.
04:01:14PM IF NOT FOR THE CRAs, THERE WILL BE NO JOBS IN DOWNTOWN TO
04:01:18PM SPEAK OF.
04:01:18PM THERE WILL BE NO TROLLEY.
04:01:21PM THAT WAS FUNDED BY A CRA.
04:01:23PM IT WOULD BE VERY LITTLE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN DOWNTOWN.
04:01:26PM ALL THE MONIES THAT ARE GIVEN AWAY AND YOU SPOKE EARLIER, I
04:01:30PM BELIEVE YOU DID, THAT IT IS COMMITTED TO 2029, RIGHT?
04:01:35PM THE MAYOR WON'T BE HERE.
04:01:36PM MOST OF US MAY BE OR MAY NOT BE HERE.
04:01:39PM WHAT WE ARE DOING IS PASSING IT ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
04:01:42PM YES, WE STARTED IT.
04:01:43PM SO IT'S -- IT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
04:01:47PM HOW MANY ITEMS THAT WE PASSED TODAY THAT ARE CITY-OWNED LAST
04:01:52PM WEEK AND LAST YEAR.
04:01:53PM WE ALL GOT IT.
04:01:54PM WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
04:01:56PM LET'S BE REAL STRAIGHT.
04:01:57PM IT IS ABOUT WHAT?
04:01:59PM THE AQUARIUM.
04:02:00PM IT SAINT ABOUT NOTHING ELSE.
04:02:01PM THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
04:02:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE AQUARIUM IS NOT IN THE DOWNTOWN --
04:02:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW, BUT YOU ARE GOING AFTER THE
04:02:08PM OTHER.
04:02:08PM AQUARIUM -- I MEAN THE -- THE STRAZ GOT IT.
04:02:15PM DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
04:02:21PM THAT MUSEUM IS BEAUTIFUL.
04:02:22PM IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS.
04:02:24PM EVERY CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, CONVENTION CENTER GOT IT FOR THE
04:02:30PM REMODELING, HOW MANY THINGS WE WILL LEAD BY.
04:02:32PM THE CONVENTION CENTER NEVER HAD A HOTEL.
04:02:36PM THAT WAS UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION OF 1995.
04:02:40PM ALL THESE THINGS GOING ON NOW, A PUZZLE THAT CAME TOGETHER,
04:02:44PM BUT IT IS NOT COMPLETE.
04:02:44PM NOT COMPLETE, AT LEAST TO 2029.
04:02:47PM HOW I DO KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THAT?
04:02:50PM HOW DO I KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE BETWEEN NOW AND 2029?
04:02:53PM WHAT ABOUT IF YOU HAVE A CATASTROPHE.
04:02:57PM CRA MONEY FOR ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION.
04:03:00PM WHAT I THINK IT IS OF TO SOME DEGREE.
04:03:02PM WHAT IF WE HAVE NO MONEY TO DO ANYTHING.
04:03:04PM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, NOT DO IT?
04:03:07PM LET'S BE FAIR.
04:03:08PM THE COUNTY COMMISSION COLLECTS MORE MONEY OR EQUAL TO THE
04:03:15PM GREATER SUM THAT ALL THE TAXPAYER DO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
04:03:19PM NUMBER ONE.
04:03:19PM TWO, ALL THE SUMS OF THE DIGITS OF THOSE MONIES COLLECTED ON
04:03:25PM THE AD VALOREM TAX IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PAST TEN
04:03:30PM YEARS HAVE NOD COVERED THE COST OF POLICE AND FIRE
04:03:33PM DEPARTMENT.
04:03:33PM IT WENT DOWN THREE YEARS AGO TO $25 MILLION.
04:03:36PM IT WAS 50 ALL ITS TIME WE WERE SHORT.
04:03:40PM WENT, THE FIRST TIME IN THE LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS THAT IT HAD
04:03:45PM SOME SURPLUS.
04:03:46PM COVERED THE COST OF THE POLICE AND FIRE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
04:03:49PM SURPLUS, IF I RECALL.
04:03:50PM SO WHAT -- WHAT ARE WE SAYING?
04:03:54PM WE WANT TO INCREASE.
04:03:55PM WE WANT TO BUILD -- HOW MANY, THREE NEW FIRE STATIONS?
04:04:00PM 28 STATIONS YOU MUST HAVE GONE TO A DIFFERENT
04:04:03PM SCHOOL THAN I WENT TO.
04:04:04PM AND HOW MANY -- HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THAT REMEMBER GOING TO
04:04:08PM NEED?
04:04:09PM FIRE FIGHTERS THAT ARE WANTED?
04:04:11PM EQUIPMENT THAT IS NEEDED?
04:04:12PM YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE CIT TAX.
04:04:15PM BY THE TIME THEY FINISH WITH US WITH THE SPECIAL INTERESTS I
04:04:19PM WILL WEIGH 26 POUNDS BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO EAT US.
04:04:22PM ONE MAY WANT $500 MILLION.
04:04:24PM THE OTHER $5 MILLION, $10 MILLION.
04:04:26PM THAT IS HOW IT IS.
04:04:27PM I WILL BE PREPARED THIS TIME WITH ALL THE FACTS AND FIGURES
04:04:30PM WHAT IT COSTS US.
04:04:31PM I HAVE THAT THE WAY WE PASSED IT, AND IT DOES NOT WORK IN
04:04:35PM FAVOR OF THE TAXPAYERS.
04:04:36PM THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
04:04:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:04:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DIRECTOR MOODY, DO YOU WANT TO ADD A
04:04:42PM COMMENT.
04:04:42PM I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT --
04:04:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOUR MICROPHONE.
04:04:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GWEN HENDERSON .
04:04:48PM CHAIR OF CRA.
04:04:50PM DIRECTOR MOODY, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT WE
04:04:54PM ALREADY HAVE ALLOCATED FOR THE -- THROUGH -- THROUGH 2029.
04:04:58PM HOW MUCH IS IT?
04:04:59PM ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THAT?
04:05:00PM >>ERICA MOODY: YES, MA'AM.
04:05:01PM ATTORNEY MASSEY HAS DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW THE DOWNTOWN TAX
04:05:05PM FLOW.
04:05:05PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A FINANCIAL ANALYST TO GET THESE
04:05:09PM NUMBERS AND THESE NUMBERS INCLUDE ITS PROPOSED GASWORX
04:05:12PM PROJECT APPROVED TODAY AS WELL AS THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART
04:05:16PM THEIR WAS APPROVED TODAY AS WELL.
04:05:17PM THOSE NUMBERS ARE --
04:05:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU MAKE THEM ANY SMALLER.
04:05:22PM >>ERICA MOODY: I KNOW.
04:05:23PM I SHOULD HAVE PRINT IT ON A BIGGER PAGE.
04:05:25PM BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT THE MONEY IS REALLY TIGHT UNTIL ABOUT
04:05:28PM 2028.
04:05:29PM AND THAT IS WHEN THE SURPLUS STARTS TO BUILD JUST FOR THE
04:05:39PM PUBLIC NOT HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF THEM IN THIS THEM '24,
04:05:43PM $38,000 -- OH, YES, I DID.
04:05:45PM ALL RIGHT, SO FISCAL YEAR 24.
04:06:00PM AND ENDING BALANCE OF 4.5.
04:06:03PM THEN '25 AT 3.4.
04:06:06PM AND THEN YOU SEE 26 AT 6.12.
04:06:10PM FISCAL YEAR 27 AT 1.1.
04:06:13PM AND.
04:06:16PM >> ENDING BALANCES.
04:06:17PM THIS IS REALLY LOW.
04:06:19PM >>ERICA MOODY: FISCAL YEAR '27 AND WHERE THE BUDGET GETS
04:06:23PM TIGHT WITH ALL OF OUR COMMITMENTS.
04:06:25PM THIS IS WHEN THE PROJECTS WILL BE REREALIZED AND FISCAL '28
04:06:29PM WHEN THE MONEY STARTS BUILDING BACK UP AND THIS IS WHAT WE
04:06:32PM ARE ENTERTAINING GOING -- GOING PAST 2028.
04:06:36PM ALL THE WAY IN THIS NUMBER REPRESENTS 2033.
04:06:40PM SO -- SO THE MONEY IS COMMITTED UNTIL 2028.
04:06:44PM AS YOU SEE, THE PROJECTS OPEN UP BECAUSE THEY BECOME
04:06:48PM REALIZED AFTER THAT TIME.
04:06:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 50% WILL PUT US IN A HOLE?
04:06:53PM >>ERICA MOODY: AT THIS TIME.
04:06:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN START -- WE CAN DECIDE NOW TO PUT IT
04:06:58PM AT A FUTURE YEAR.
04:06:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ARE YOU --
04:07:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN MAKE MY MOTION.
04:07:04PM WE WILL BRING MORRIS AND ERICA WILL TALK TO THE COUNTY, AND
04:07:08PM THEN COME BACK -- WE ARE GOING TO ENDS UP -- WE WILL END UP
04:07:13PM WASTING HOURS AND HOURS OF TIMES TALKING OF THINGS THAT ARE
04:07:15PM NICE TO HAVE AND HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING HOW
04:07:18PM THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON IT.
04:07:20PM WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE.
04:07:22PM THE AQUARIUM IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY.
04:07:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS NOT FAIR.
04:07:26PM WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD FROM THEM YET.
04:07:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THESE PROJECTS
04:07:35PM ARE.
04:07:36PM AND WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE WE CAN'T FIX YOUR ROADS.
04:07:38PM WE CAN'T FIX THE DUGOUTS WHERE STUFF ARE FALLING ON KIDS'
04:07:42PM HEADS THAT ADMINISTRATION IS BLAMING US SAYING IT IS BECAUSE
04:07:45PM WE DIDN'T RAISE TAXES.
04:07:47PM AND WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE CAN MOVE, IT IS CRAZY.
04:07:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:07:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:07:58PM I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT AS
04:08:02PM WELL.
04:08:02PM AREAS NOT IN CRAs ARE NOT IN DIRE NEED TO IMPROVE
04:08:07PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
04:08:07PM YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% CORRECT.
04:08:09PM THE PROBLEM IS AS YOU SEE IN THE SPREADSHEET OF WHAT THE
04:08:13PM REALITY IS AND THERE ARE NEEDS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
04:08:18PM DOWNTOWN CRA FOR OUR STREETCAR EXPANSION.
04:08:21PM NORTH DOWNTOWN STILL HAS A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS WE
04:08:24PM HAVE TO RESOLVE.
04:08:25PM YOU LOOK AT NORTH DOWNTOWN, THERE IS A LOT -- ONE -- AND
04:08:28PM THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT DOWN
04:08:31PM THERE.
04:08:31PM IF WE CAN PROCEED MONEY, BUT BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEED TO
04:08:35PM SPARK DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVE THAT AREA.
04:08:38PM THE REDEVELOPMENT OF -- OF OUR SALVATION ARMY PROPERTY AND
04:08:43PM THE POTENTIAL.
04:08:45PM THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE THERE AND MARIAN STREET.
04:08:51PM A LARGE CENTER, WITH HART IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO
04:08:57PM REDEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDE AN IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE AND
04:09:01PM AMENITY IN THIS AREA.
04:09:02PM SO UNTIL WE -- UNTIL WE REALLY HAVE A HANDLE OF WHAT THE
04:09:06PM COSTS ARE AND WHAT -- WHAT POTENTIAL IS OUT THERE, I THINK
04:09:09PM THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS PREMATURE.
04:09:11PM I SUPPORT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S INITIALLY -- WHEN WE FIRST
04:09:18PM STARTED THE DISCUSSION.
04:09:19PM DEFERRING THE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION TO A FEBRUARY DATE --
04:09:23PM YOU TALKED ABOUT PUTTING IT ON.
04:09:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
04:09:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHATEVER MEETING WE LAND ON -- BECAUSE
04:09:29PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REALITY OF THIS FIVE-YEAR PROJECTION,
04:09:33PM THIS IS CLEARLY NOT TIME CRITICAL, BECAUSE WE HAVE --
04:09:36PM NOTHING WE CAN DO TODAY THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE NEXT
04:09:39PM FIVE YEARS.
04:09:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA --
04:09:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO I THINK -- WHEN WE MAKE THAT MOTION, IF
04:09:45PM WE LOOK AT THIS DATE, I THINK WE NEED TO SET ASIDE AN
04:09:49PM ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THIS THING CAN BE THOROUGHLY
04:09:52PM DISCUSSED AND REVIEWED.
04:09:54PM AS SOMEONE HAS SAID, WE TALK ENDLESSLY OF SOME OF THESE
04:09:59PM THINGS AND AT -- THIS IS WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
04:10:02PM THIS IS WHY WE ARE ELECTED TO BE HERE TO VET THESE THINGS
04:10:06PM THOROUGHLY TO TALK THESE THINGS THROUGH, TO TALK WITH STAFF,
04:10:09PM OUR CONSULTANTS AND THE PEOPLE DOING 40 MILES PER HOUR A
04:10:13PM WEEK DIGGING INTO THESE THINGS TO BRING FORWARD ALL THESE
04:10:15PM MOTIONS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALLOCATE ENOUGH TIME TO
04:10:18PM PUTS IT ON A MEETING THAT WE WILL NOT SUPER LOAD LIKE WE DID
04:10:21PM TODAY.
04:10:21PM PLEASE, GOD, LET'S NOT DO THIS AGAIN.
04:10:24PM SUPER LOAD THESE MEETINGS AND I HOPE WE FIND A MEETING
04:10:27PM DATES.
04:10:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA, MIRANDA AND THEN
04:10:32PM MANISCALCO.
04:10:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: I SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE OUR COMMENTS OTHER THAN
04:10:38PM MOTION MAKERS TO ONE MINUTE.
04:10:39PM TWO FACTS THAT ARE POSITIVE ISSUES HERE.
04:10:41PM NUMBER ONE, WE CAN'T SPEND A DIME ON THIS PRACTICALLY FOR
04:10:45PM ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
04:10:46PM WHAT DOES ANOTHER MONTH HURT.
04:10:47PM NUMBER TWO, THIS WAS FIRST PROPOSED THREE YEARS AGO.
04:10:52PM CITY COUNCIL OR CRA HAS NEVER VOTED THIS DOWN TO THE BEST OF
04:10:56PM ME KNOWLEDGE.
04:10:56PM I SPOKEN TO STAFF OF DOWNTOWN CHANNELSIDE.
04:11:01PM WE WAITED THREE YEARS AND CAN'T SPEND IT FOR FIVE YEARS,
04:11:04PM ANOTHER MONTH TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
04:11:05PM AGAIN, IF THIS COMES FORWARD IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, I WILL
04:11:08PM MORE THAN LIKELY BE A YES VOTE LIKE MANY OTHER TIMES.
04:11:12PM WHY DON'T WE WAIT ANOTHER MONTH.
04:11:14PM INSTEAD OF FEBRUARY, LET'S DO JANUARY.
04:11:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
04:11:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN FEBRUARY.
04:11:19PM BUT, AGAIN, WHAT ARE 60 DAYS MORE WHEN WE WAITED THREE YEARS
04:11:24PM WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PROPOSED AND NEVER VOTED DOWN FROM THE
04:11:27PM CRA AND CAN'T SPEND MONEY FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
04:11:29PM LET'S HAVE AN ACCOMPLISHMENTS NOT TO PROVE A POINT.
04:11:34PM LET'S BRING IN FOR LANDING.
04:11:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:11:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE MONEY COMING FROM THE STATE
04:11:42PM GOVERNMENT AND A LAWSUIT FILED.
04:11:43PM AND MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE DIVIDED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND
04:11:46PM THE CITY.
04:11:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS BUT OVER --
04:11:54PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ALL TRANSPORTATION MONEY COLLECTED THAT THE
04:11:56PM GOVERNMENT IS PROPOSING THAT FDOT WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY
04:12:02PM ABOUT PROJECTS.
04:12:03PM AND WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT OUR MOBILITY TALKING TO THE COUNTY
04:12:09PM AND F.D.O.T. AND WHAT THE CITY SHARES.
04:12:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE USE SOME OF THAT MONEY.
04:12:15PM >> BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
04:12:19PM WERE YOU FINISHED, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA?
04:12:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS A SUGGESTION AS A CRA BOARD AND CITY
04:12:27PM COUNCIL.
04:12:27PM NOT A MOTION BUT A SUGGESTION.
04:12:30PM DRAW A LINE IN THE STAND WHERE WE DON'T APPROVE A BUDGET
04:12:33PM PROPOSED BY THE ADMINISTRATION UNLESS IT STRICTLY FOCUSES ON
04:12:36PM THE ROADS, THE SIDEWALKS, PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:12:39PM WE TALKED ABOUT FIRE STATION AND WHAT NOT, AND THAT'S IT.
04:12:42PM NO MORE -- NO MORE BIG PROJECTS.
04:12:44PM NO MORE FOR THE NEXT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND WE FOCUS ON
04:12:48PM WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
04:12:49PM WE HAVE THE EAST TAMPA -- WE HAVE THINGS ALREADY COMMITTED,
04:12:52PM BUT MOVING FORWARD, FIX THE ROADS.
04:12:54PM MAKE THE BEST EFFORT HISTORICALLY WHEN WE SAY ENOUGH --
04:12:59PM NOTHING PRETTY.
04:13:00PM WE ARE GOING TO FIX THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THAT'S IT.
04:13:03PM I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
04:13:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAVE OUR DAMN ROADS.
04:13:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
04:13:09PM HURTAK, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN?
04:13:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONTINUE ITEM
04:13:15PM NUMBER 8 APRIL -- I AM HAPPY TO PASS THE OTHER MOTION IF YOU
04:13:20PM GUYS WANT TO VOTE ON IT.
04:13:21PM BASED ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, I DO NOT WANT TO MOVE THIS --
04:13:26PM BY THE WAY, THE REASON WE HAVEN'T VOTED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE
04:13:28PM WE KICK THE CAN DOWN ITS ROAD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
04:13:31PM WE NEVER VOTED ON IT BECAUSE THE SAME CONVERSATION HAPPENS
04:13:34PM ALL THE TIME.
04:13:35PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 8 TO
04:13:38PM APRIL 11, WHICH WOULD GIVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO HAVE THIS
04:13:40PM OTHER CONVERSATION.
04:13:41PM I DON'T WANT THEM ON THE SAME DAY.
04:13:43PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 8 TO
04:13:46PM APRIL 11 TO BE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
04:13:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND THERE A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
04:13:53PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
04:13:54PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
04:13:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE YOU ALL.
04:13:59PM YOU KNOW THAT.
04:14:00PM >> WE LOVE YOU MOVE MORE.
04:14:08PM THE CURRENT, THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL OF WHICH I WAS A PART HAS
04:14:13PM A LOT OF THE ROLE OF WHY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL 2028.
04:14:17PM SO IF YOU ALL KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S NICE TO SAY
04:14:25PM WE WANT TO HURRY UP AND SOLVE IT, BUT WE WERE THE ONES THAT
04:14:28PM DID IT.
04:14:28PM AND I THINK WE HAVE TO OWN THAT.
04:14:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN EXPLAIN.
04:14:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS ONLY HERE FOR A YEAR.
04:14:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:14:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN THE MEANTIME WE NEEDED TO SPEND THE MONEY
04:14:41PM BUT NOW WE CAN'T BE HURRYING ENOUGH TO SOLVE SOMETHING THAT
04:14:45PM WE, OURSELVES CREATED AND CREATED THE TIMELINE.
04:14:49PM THAT IS WHY WE NEED THE LONGER CONVERSATION.
04:14:52PM AFTER THIS MOTION, I AM GOING TO MOTION TO ADD THE
04:14:55PM CHANNELSIDE DISCUSSION AT THE SAME TIME.
04:14:56PM SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE -- THE CAPPING AND WHAT WE CAN
04:15:00PM DO WITH THOSE DOLLARS.
04:15:01PM ALSO, THEN TO MOVE THE MOTION ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE CRP TO
04:15:09PM MARCH THEN BEFORE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT CAPPING.
04:15:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE TALKING OF 21?
04:15:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS LIKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
04:15:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
04:15:21PM A SEPARATE ONE.
04:15:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION ON THE FLOOR MOVING ITEM FIRST ON
04:15:27PM THE AGENDA BOARD MEMBERS FROM CARLSON.
04:15:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:15:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:15:35PM OPPOSED.
04:15:36PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:15:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I MAKE MY MOTION.
04:15:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, YOU MAY.
04:15:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:15:43PM I WANT TO MOTION TO MOVE THE CAPPING OF CHANNELSIDE
04:15:45PM DISCUSSION SIMILAR TO THIS TO THE -- TO THE APRIL MEETING AS
04:15:50PM WELL.
04:15:50PM -- SECOND TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION IN WHOLE, INCLUDING THE
04:15:56PM POSSIBILITY OF -- OF WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO USE THOSE
04:16:05PM COUNTY DOLLARS TOWARD ROADS WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT
04:16:07PM THE COUNTY ALSO WANTS TO GET RID OF.
04:16:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAP THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE DAY AND THE
04:16:14PM MORNING AGENDA AND ANYTHING ADDED WILL BE IN THE AFTERNOON.
04:16:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL TAKE THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
04:16:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DON'T WE USUALLY HAVE A FIRST REPORT
04:16:22PM FROM CAC FIRST AND THEN THESE TWO?
04:16:26PM >>ERICA MOODY: YES, TYPICALLY THE CAC AND THE DIRECTOR'S
04:16:30PM REPORT AND THEN GET INTO ITEMS AND WE CAN REARRANGE THE
04:16:34PM AGENDA.
04:16:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE VOTED TO MAKE IF FIRST.
04:16:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO THE REPORTS IN THE AFTERNOON.
04:16:39PM >>ERICA MOODY: JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR BOARD
04:16:41PM MEMBER HURTAK'S IS FOR APRIL 11 AS WELL.
04:16:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO -- APRIL 11.
04:16:48PM CRA.
04:16:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DID HE SAY 8th?
04:16:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE SAID 8th EARLIER FOR FEBRUARY.
04:16:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FEBRUARY IT IS.
04:17:00PM NUMBER TWO.
04:17:01PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN?
04:17:04PM ANY DISCUSSION SOMEBODY IN.
04:17:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I PHILOSOPHICALLY IS IN FAVOR OF DOING
04:17:08PM THAT WITH CHANNEL DISTRICT.
04:17:10PM I MADE THE MOTION SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT WAS OPPOSED.
04:17:13PM WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T ON THE SAME DAY OR THE NEXT DAY TO
04:17:18PM MAKE A MOTION FOR DOWNTOWN.
04:17:19PM BECAUSE I KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO FAIL IN TIME.
04:17:24PM I -- I AM GOING TO VOTES NO FOR THAT MOTION ONLY BECAUSE I
04:17:27PM DON'T WANT THEM TO BE AT THE SAME TIME.
04:17:29PM I WANT US TO APPROVE ONE, AND THEN SEE WHERE WE GET FROM
04:17:33PM THERE.
04:17:34PM BECAUSE INTENSE OPPOSITION TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT ONE.
04:17:37PM AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE REASONS RIGHT NOW.
04:17:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS OPPOSITION.
04:17:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE I MADE THE MOTION BEFORE.
04:17:45PM THREE YEARS AGO I MADE THE MOTION.
04:17:47PM INTENSE, 5-1 OR 6-2.
04:17:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS A NEW BOARD.
04:17:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE
04:17:57PM THEM SO WE DON'T END UNDER WITH THE OPPOSITION IN ONE AND
04:18:00PM PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF THE OTHER.
04:18:00PM I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY OPPOSITION TO DOWNTOWN.
04:18:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:18:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVEN THOUGH I SECOND THAT MOTION, I CAN
04:18:09PM ALREADY TELL YOU FOR THE CHANNELSIDE.
04:18:10PM IT IS APPLES AND ORANGES FROM DOWNTOWN AND THE MATH DOESN'T
04:18:16PM NECESSARILY WORK AND OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER WITH THE
04:18:18PM COUNTY.
04:18:18PM BUT I DID SECOND IT BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION WORTHY OF HAVING
04:18:22PM BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC AND THINGS WE TALK ABOUT.
04:18:24PM WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AGAIN.
04:18:25PM BUT I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU I AM NOT NECESSARILY IN ALIGN TO
04:18:30PM THAT.
04:18:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:18:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW TODAY OR NEXT YEAR OR
04:18:35PM APRIL OR MAY OR JUNE?
04:18:37PM ITEM NUMBER 21.
04:18:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT
04:18:41PM NOW.
04:18:41PM CAN WE VOTE ON THAT FOR --
04:18:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: 21 IS FEBRUARY 8.
04:18:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER GOT TO THE VOTE.
04:18:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: STILL A FEW ITEMS LEFT.
04:18:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
04:18:53PM WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITS FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOR THE
04:18:58PM CHANNELSIDE TO BE -- SECOND IN LINE ON THE APRIL 11 MEETING.
04:19:02PM AND IT WAS SECONDED BY -- COME ON, Y'ALL -- YEAH, YOU, WHAT
04:19:09PM IS YOUR NAME.
04:19:10PM BOARD MEMBER -- BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:19:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:19:13PM ANY OPPOSED.
04:19:15PM OKAY.
04:19:17PM MOTION DOES CAR CARRY.
04:19:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:19:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:19:27PM INTEREST DIRECTOR MOODY --
04:19:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: 9 AND 10, CAN I --
04:19:34PM >>ERICA MOODY: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
04:19:37PM MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CONSULTANT TO COME BACK IN MARCH.
04:19:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION -- AT SOME POINT I
04:19:42PM WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
04:19:43PM >>ERICA MOODY: I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I MISSED IT.
04:19:46PM 9 AND 10.
04:19:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON FOR 9 AND 10.
04:19:50PM YOUR COMMENT.
04:19:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICK.
04:19:53PM TAMPA UNION STATION.
04:19:55PM WE ARE GETTING REGULAR UPDATES ON THIS.
04:19:57PM QUESTION IN NUMBER 9, IN MOST CASES WE ARE PAYING ANOTHER
04:20:01PM INCIDENTS TEE TO RENOVATE OR REBUILD CYCLONE THE TAMPA
04:20:05PM THEATRE AS A FOUNDATION AND THEY RENOVATES.
04:20:07PM WE PAY THEM TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING.
04:20:09PM IN THE CASE OF TAMPA UNION STATION -- FRIENDS OF TAMPA UNION
04:20:13PM STATION THAT ONCE OWNED THE BUILDING AND LED THE RENOVATION
04:20:16PM AND GAVE IT TO MAYOR GRECO'S ADMINISTRATION AND WHY THE CITY
04:20:21PM OWNS IT.
04:20:21PM BECAUSE THE FRIENDS DOES NOT HAVE A CONTRACT AND THE CITY IS
04:20:24PM RUNNING THE RENOVATION AND WAY.
04:20:27PM AN EVENT IN THE NEW BAGGAGE CLAIM AREA THAT THE COUNTY
04:20:31PM FUNDED AND FULL OF TERMITES.
04:20:33PM YEAH, THE BUILDING IS ERODING QUICKLY.
04:20:35PM AND WE NEED TO MOVE VERY QUICKLY.
04:20:37PM WE DON'T -- WHAT NUMBER 9 SAYS, WE DID NOT PUTS ANY
04:20:41PM REQUIREMENTS IN OUR CONTRACT FOR THE CITY TO REQUIRE THEM TO
04:20:44PM RENOVATE FASTER.
04:20:45PM AND THAT IS WHAT THE FIRST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
04:20:47PM AND THE SECOND -- THE SECOND ONE.
04:20:50PM THEY -- THE CITY HAS PUTS IT -- ON A DEFINITE HOLD BECAUSE A
04:20:55PM $1.5 MILLION BUDGET GAP.
04:20:57PM THIS IS BUILDING WHERE WE ARE ASKING TO FUND NOT SOMETHING
04:21:00PM THAT IS NICE TO HAVE.
04:21:01PM IT IS FALLING APART.
04:21:03PM AND WE NEED TO FIX IT BEFORE IT CAUSES MORE DAMAGE.
04:21:07PM WINDOWS ARE DAMAGED.
04:21:08PM WATER LEAKING IN THE BUILDING AND TERMITES.
04:21:11PM I WOULD MAKE A MOTION ABOUT FUNDING AND CONTRACT WITH
04:21:16PM SEVERAL STIPULATIONS IF I CAN JUST READ IT AND THEN DECIDE
04:21:20PM WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
04:21:20PM MOTION TO ASK CRA STAFF AND MR. MASSEY TO RETURN ON FEBRUARY
04:21:24PM 8 WITH A PROPOSED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CRA AND CITY OF
04:21:28PM TAMPA TO OFFER AN ADDITIONAL $1.5 MILLION FOR TAMPA UNION
04:21:31PM STATION SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: NUMBER ONE,
04:21:35PM TAMPA UNION STATION MUST BE TENTED OR TREATED FOR TERMITES
04:21:38PM PRIOR TO JULY 1, 2024.
04:21:40PM NUMBER TWO, THE WINDOWS, LEAKS AND REPAIRS MUST BE MADE IT
04:21:45PM BY JANUARY 1, 2025.
04:21:47PM THREE, THAT RECONFIGURATION AND COFFEE SHOP/INCUBATOR SPACE
04:21:53PM WILL BE OPEN AND OPERATIONAL BY JANUARY 1, 2026.
04:21:55PM NEXT, ANY GRANTS RECEIVED FOR TAMPA UNION STATION FOR THESE
04:22:03PM REPAIRS.
04:22:03PM GRANTS FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE REFUNDED TO
04:22:09PM THE CRA.
04:22:09PM LAST, FAILURE TO MEET THESE DEADLINES WILL RESULT IN THE
04:22:13PM CITY REFUNDING THE $1.5 MILLION TO THE CRA SIMILAR TO
04:22:17PM AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER NONPROFITS.
04:22:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION.
04:22:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SURE.
04:22:21PM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:22:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW WITH SOME GRANTS, THAT
04:22:25PM REIMBURSEMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK.
04:22:27PM IF YOU PAY FOR IT, YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE GRANTS.
04:22:31PM SOMETHING THAT JEOPARDIZES THE GRANTS?
04:22:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: DEPENDS ON -- THAT IS A LONGER CONVERSATION,
04:22:36PM BUT DEPENDS ON WHICH ONES --
04:22:38PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ARE ALSO PUTTING THINGS IN A VERY
04:22:41PM DIFFICULT SITUATION.
04:22:42PM IF YOU FAIL TO MEET A DEADLINE -- IF THE CITY FAILS TO MEET
04:22:46PM A DEADLINE, THE CITY HAS TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR IT
04:22:50PM IF IT DOESN'T COULD AM OUT OF A CRA.
04:22:52PM THESE DEADLINES WILL -- WE WILL HAVE TO REVIEW TO MAKE SURE
04:22:56PM THEY ARE REASONABLE AND CAN BE MET. >>BILL CARLSON: I AM
04:23:00PM ASKING TO BRING THIS BACK AND DISCUSS ALL THE DETAILS WHEN
04:23:02PM IT COMES BACK.
04:23:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT THE CRA DO DOWNTOWN OR --
04:23:08PM >> DOWNTOWN.
04:23:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY DID NOT GET A $1.4 MILLION GRANT
04:23:13PM LAST WEEK.
04:23:13PM THEY WERE VERY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT.
04:23:17PM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT?
04:23:20PM >>ERICA MOODY: I HAVE A QUESTION.
04:23:22PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE UNION STATION
04:23:24PM AND LAMB AND FACILITIES OF REAL ESTATE.
04:23:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DESIGN BUILDER JOE MITCHELL.
04:23:35PM >>ERICA MOODY: JO MITCHELL IS THE PROJECT MANAGER.
04:23:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT ASKING FOR THE WHOLE UPDATE.
04:23:40PM THAT IS FINE IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT -- I KNOW WE ARE
04:23:43PM PRESSED FOR TIME IN ALL THESE MEETINGS AND ASKING FOR
04:23:46PM DISCUSSION.
04:23:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANOTHER QUESTION WITH CLARIFICATION ON THE
04:23:49PM MOTION.
04:23:49PM THOSE DATES WILL BE THE FINAL ANSWER?
04:23:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I EXPECT -- STAFF WILL NEGOTIATE WITH
04:23:54PM US.
04:23:55PM THIS IS JUST PLACEHOLDERS I FURTHER IT IN DISCUSSION WITH
04:23:58PM FRIENDS OF UNION STATION
04:23:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR REALISM?
04:24:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONCE WE GET THE DRAFT, WE CAN EDIT IT BASED
04:24:06PM ON STAFF.
04:24:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
04:24:10PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
04:24:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED?
04:24:15PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:24:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT WILL WE DO WITH 21.
04:24:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S JUMP -- 9, 10, UNION STATION I
04:24:25PM CAN'T TURN THIS PAGE FAST ENOUGH.
04:24:27PM WE HAVE AN ELECTION OF A CAC APPOINTMENT BY FOR JOE CITRO TO
04:24:35PM THE YBOR CITY CRA.
04:24:37PM SHOULD WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT?
04:24:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN -- JUST TO
04:24:42PM LET'S YOU KNOW.
04:24:43PM NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS
04:24:45PM DISCUSSION.
04:24:45PM THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY STATUS CHANGE.
04:24:49PM I STAND BY MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS FROM THE FIRST -- NOT TO
04:24:55PM DRAG THIS OUT ANY FURTHER THAN IT HAS TO BE.
04:24:57PM SO JUST TO LET -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDER STOOD
04:25:01PM NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
04:25:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OTHER FOR THE DISCUSSION?
04:25:04PM YES.
04:25:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. CITRO.
04:25:09PM HE REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME FOR HIS VOTE.
04:25:12PM I SAID I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU IN TWO OR THREE YEARS.
04:25:14PM WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN.
04:25:16PM SAT DOWN FOR COFFEE FOR 20 TO 30 MINUTES.
04:25:20PM WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION.
04:25:21PM DURING THAT TIME, WE AGREED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, WHICH IS
04:25:25PM GOOD.
04:25:25PM BUT I SAID, I SAID, LOOK, AFTER -- I HAD A VERY CONTENTIOUS
04:25:31PM CAMPAIGN ALSO.
04:25:34PM I MET WITH THE GUY WHO RAN AGAINST ME BLAKE CASPER.
04:25:37PM I TOLD HIM I FORGIVE YOU.
04:25:39PM LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
04:25:40PM THE MAYOR PERSONALLY RAISED HALF THE MONEY THAT RAN AGAINST
04:25:43PM ME.
04:25:44PM I MET WITH HER.
04:25:44PM I AM MEETING WITH HER EVERY MONTH.
04:25:46PM MY PHILOSOPHY WE SHOULD ALL WORK TOGETHER.
04:25:50PM AND I HARDSHIP THAT HE TAKES THE HINT AND MEET WITH BOARD
04:25:55PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:25:55PM YOU ARE SAYING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN?
04:25:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
04:25:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST BECAUSE THAT DID NOT HAPPEN WITH ALL
04:26:00PM DUE RESPECT TO OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, I HAVE TO VOTE NO.
04:26:03PM BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HIS INVOLVEMENT IN OTHER THINGS IN THE
04:26:05PM FUTURE.
04:26:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
04:26:06PM CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE, FOR ITEM NUMBER 17.
04:26:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
04:26:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
04:26:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
04:26:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
04:26:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
04:26:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
04:26:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
04:26:25PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, MIRANDA, MANISCALCO,
04:26:32PM VIERA AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
04:26:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE 19, 20 AND 22.
04:26:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:26:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE
04:26:42PM THOSE ITEMS.
04:26:43PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:26:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:26:46PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:26:46PM ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
04:26:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, 21.
04:26:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 21.
04:26:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
04:26:55PM I PULLED THIS FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
04:26:56PM ONE IS FROM TALKING TO STAFF, I ASKED STAFF, TYPICALLY WHEN
04:26:59PM WE UPDATE A CRP, WE DON'T PUT A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION A CRP
04:27:05PM UPDATE.
04:27:06PM ALREADY SAYS CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS.
04:27:09PM THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN WITHOUT THE NAME FLORIDA AQUARIUM DOES
04:27:12PM NOT PRECLUDE US FROM FUNDING THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM IN THE
04:27:15PM FUTURE.
04:27:16PM I THINK -- AS I SAID BEFORE, NOT A GOOD IDEA TO FUND IT.
04:27:20PM I DON'T LIKE THIS SPECIFIC PROPOSAL.
04:27:21PM I THINK THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE
04:27:25PM ARTS VERSUS AN AQUARIUM, AND WITH ALL RESPECT TO MY
04:27:29PM COLLEAGUE AT WORK WHO IS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF IT.
04:27:32PM IN THE WAY OF THE MARITIME ACTIVITIES THAT ARE THERE.
04:27:37PM IT WAS BUILT AS AN AMENITY FOR THE CRUISE TERMINALS AND THE
04:27:41PM SPACE IS GETTING CROWDED THERE AND WE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT.
04:27:44PM THE BIGGEST THING, WE DON'T PUT -- AS I EARNED STAND FROM
04:27:47PM STAFF.
04:27:48PM WE DON'T PUT SPECIFIC NAMES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
04:27:50PM BUT GENERIC CATEGORIES.
04:27:53PM HOW PRESIDENT VENUES IN CHANNEL DISTRICT.
04:27:57PM WE CAN FUND IT AND MY SUGGESTION IS TO PASS 21, REMOVING THE
04:28:01PM NAME "FLORIDA AQUARIUM" BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY DON'T PUT NAMES
04:28:06PM AND ORGANIZATIONS IN.
04:28:07PM DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM FUNDING THEM, BUT SHOULD NOT
04:28:11PM SPECIFICALLY HAVE A BIASED TOWARD A PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION.
04:28:13PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CAN I RESPOND QUICKLY BECAUSE I DID DRAFT
04:28:18PM THE AMENDMENT.
04:28:19PM WE DO NAME SPECIFIC INSTITUTIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY
04:28:22PM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
04:28:23PM ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND THE TAMPA BAY
04:28:26PM PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THE STRAZ, TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART AND
04:28:33PM THE UNION STATION, WE SPELL THEM OUT OF WHICH FUNDS CAN BE
04:28:37PM USED.
04:28:37PM THAT REASON I FELT COMFORTABLE WITH YOU ALL MOVING ON IT.
04:28:42PM PLANS ARE FOR SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE CITY AND THEY CALL OUT
04:28:44PM AND DISCUSS SPECIFIC ITEMS.
04:28:46PM THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM
04:28:49PM AS A SPECIFIC NAMED ENTITY IN THE PLAN, PROPOSED PLAN
04:28:53PM AMENDMENT.
04:28:53PM THAT IS FINE.
04:28:54PM IT IS YOUR PLAN, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE DO NAME
04:28:59PM SPECIFIC THINGS IN OUR PLANS.
04:29:00PM PLANS ARE SPECIFIC.
04:29:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE INFORMATION I HAD
04:29:04PM GOTTEN.
04:29:04PM HERE IS THE OTHER THING THEN.
04:29:05PM ITEM NUMBER 21, IT IS NOT NOTICED CORRECTLY THEN.
04:29:08PM BECAUSE IT REALLY IS THE SUBSTANTIVE IS ADDING THE FLORIDA
04:29:13PM AQUARIUM IS A PRECURSOR OF FUNDING THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM.
04:29:16PM YOU CAN TELL IN THE COMMUNITY, INTENSE OPPOSITION.
04:29:19PM I MUST SAY ALSO TO BOARD MEMBER HURTAK'S POINT, I PUSH FOR
04:29:21PM THE ARTS FUNDING TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO FOR THREE REASONS.
04:29:24PM NUMBER ONE, THEY HAVE BEEN DEFUNDED FOR TEN YEARS.
4:29:26PM NUMBER TWO, WE WERE AT THE END OF COVID AND WE NEEDED A
4:29:28PM STIMULUS PACKAGE TO GET THINGS GOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
4:29:30PM THE STRAZ CENTER WAS THE FIRST OF THE BIG THINGS.
4:29:33PM NOW EVERY ORGANIZATION IS COMING IN AND SAYING, IT'S OUR
4:29:35PM TURN.
4:29:36PM WE NEED MONEY, TOO.
4:29:37PM WELL, IT WAS PART OF A STIMULUS PACKAGE AT THAT TIME AND
4:29:40PM ALSO TO COVER FOR THE DEFUNDING FOR TEN YEARS.
4:29:43PM AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT I DIDN'T WANT -- I DIDN'T
4:29:49PM SAY THIS AT THE TIME, BUT I DIDN'T WANT ALL THE MONEY SPENT
4:29:52PM DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES LIKE HAD HAPPENED IN THE FUTURE.
4:29:56PM SINCE COULDN'T PUT A CAP ON DOWNTOWN, I WANT IT SPENT ON
4:30:00PM SOMETHING BENEFICIAL TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
4:30:02PM I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A LONG DEBATE ABOUT THE FLORIDA
4:30:03PM AQUARIUM.
4:30:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
4:30:06PM IT IS A CITY ASSET.
4:30:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: ABSOLUTELY IS A CITY ASSET.
4:30:11PM BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR AN EXPANSION HERE WHEN WE HAVE OTHER
4:30:15PM FACILITIES THAT ARE FALLING APART IN THE CITY.
4:30:17PM ANYWAY, YOU GUYS CAN VOTE HOWEVER YOU WANT.
4:30:21PM WHEN IT COMES UP FOR FUNDING, THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG
4:30:23PM THING I'LL FIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY WRONG TO
4:30:26PM INVEST IN THIS.
4:30:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY AM CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS THE
4:30:31PM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUPPORTING THEM AND THE STRAZ?
4:30:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ARTS ARE INTERCONNECTED WITH THE TECH
4:30:37PM COMMUNITY AND WE SEE THAT IN ST. PETE, AUSTIN, AND OTHER
4:30:39PM PLACES.
4:30:40PM I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN IT.
4:30:42PM IT'S VERY RARE TO FIND TECH PEOPLE WHO SAY, OH, I'M ALSO A
4:30:45PM MARINE BIOLOGIST, BUT IT'S VERY COMMON THAT THE BEST
4:30:49PM PROGRAMMERS ARE ALSO MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS AND OTHER THINGS.
4:30:52PM IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE INNOVATION ECONOMY, TECH
4:30:57PM ECONOMY, IT IS A COMPLETE GAME CHANGER.
4:30:59PM THE AQUARIUM IS GREAT AS IT IS, AND AS I SAID, WITH ALL DUE
4:31:03PM RESPECT TO MY COLLEAGUE WHO WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF IT,
4:31:05PM IT'S A GREAT FACILITY.
4:31:07PM I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH SPENDING 25 MILLION, OR WHATEVER THE
4:31:10PM NUMBER IS, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT THIS TIME.
4:31:11PM WE'RE PAST THE STIMULUS STAGE.
4:31:14PM IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FUNDING IN THE FUTURE BUT WE NEED TO
4:31:17PM FUND OTHER THINGS RIGHT NOW.
4:31:18PM PEOPLE ARE REALLY MAD ABOUT THEIR ROADS NOT BEING PAVED.
4:31:21PM THERE'S HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE ROADS.
4:31:23PM THERE'S HORRIBLE PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
4:31:25PM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THEM.
4:31:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:31:28PM I'M SORRY, DID I OVERLOOK YOU ALL?
4:31:32PM >> YOU'RE FINE.
4:31:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THIS JUST WENT TO THE CONVERSATION WHERE
4:31:35PM I SAY, HEY, LET'S TALK ABOUT SUNSETTING -- OR CAPPING
4:31:38PM CHANNELSIDE AND YOU ALL ARE SAYING, OH, NO, YOU CAN'T CAP
4:31:41PM CHANNELSIDE.
4:31:42PM WHERE ELSE WILL WE SPEND THE MONEY IN CHANNELSIDE?
4:31:45PM THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN CHANNELSIDE.
4:31:46PM NO, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT.
4:31:48PM WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO HAVE ABOUT THIS.
4:31:50PM WE'RE NOT SETTING ANYTHING IN STONE.
4:31:52PM BUT THE RULE IS, IF IT'S NOT IN THE CRP, WE CAN'T DO IT.
4:31:56PM SO LEAVING IT THERE IS FINE WITH ME, AND WE CAN HAVE THE
4:31:59PM CONVERSATION LATER ABOUT WHAT WE ARE AND AREN'T FUNDING, BUT
4:32:03PM I DO WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE AQUARIUM, A,
4:32:05PM DOES BELONG TO THE CITY AND, B, IS NOT IN THE DOWNTOWN.
4:32:09PM IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE US FROM CAPPING DOWNTOWN, BUT IT IS NOT
4:32:12PM IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
4:32:13PM IT IS IN THE CHANNELSIDE CRA, WHICH HAS THE SECOND-MOST
4:32:17PM AMOUNT OF MONEY AND COULD BE CAPPED, BUT WE WOULD OWE PART
4:32:22PM OF THAT MONEY TO THE COUNTY.
4:32:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:32:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TALKING ABOUT ME, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I
4:32:30PM WASN'T HERE WHEN -- THAT WAS SANDY FREEDMAN.
4:32:32PM I'M JUST SAYING --
4:32:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: TALKING ABOUT MY COLLEAGUE AT MY OTHER JOB,
4:32:38PM NOT YOU.
4:32:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ME, I WASN'T HERE '79 TO '95.
4:32:43PM I APPRECIATE IT THOUGH --
4:32:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: -- ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE AQUARIUM AND
4:32:47PM ALSO GAVE THEM MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS.
4:32:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW WHO THAT IS.
4:32:50PM VERY NICE GENTLEMAN.
4:32:52PM HE HELPED EVERYBODY.
4:32:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN I GROW UP, I WANT TO BE LIKE TOM --
4:32:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS HE STILL LIVING?
4:32:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:33:00PM HE'S FANTASTIC.
4:33:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
4:33:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:33:04PM YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN DOING
4:33:08PM THIS, THE PUBLIC COMING HERE AND GETTING INFORMATION FROM A
4:33:11PM CERTAIN SOURCE, BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THE STUFF WAS ORGANIZED
4:33:14PM AND SAYING, THEY ARE GOING TO PASS ALL THIS MONEY FOR THE
4:33:17PM AQUARIUM.
4:33:18PM NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE ON THE AQUARIUM.
4:33:21PM THE AQUARIUM COMES TO ME, I GO, PRESENT YOUR PLAN.
4:33:25PM I'M NOT AFRAID TO SAY NO TO PEOPLE.
4:33:27PM WHENEVER THEY ASK MONEY FROM THE CRA, RIGHT?
4:33:29PM I MAY SAY YES.
4:33:30PM I MAY SAY NO.
4:33:31PM DOING THIS, THIS HAS NO BEARING AT ALL.
4:33:34PM THIS IS MERELY A REASONABLE ACTION OF SAYING WE ARE GOING TO
4:33:36PM CONSIDER THIS.
4:33:37PM AND THAT'S IT.
4:33:38PM AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO KILL IT, AS THE LAWYERS SAY AT THE
4:33:42PM PLEADING STAGE, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
4:33:44PM NO, IT'S GOING TO SURVIVE THE PLEADING STAGE AND GO TO THE
4:33:47PM JURY.
4:33:47PM AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE JURY SAYS ABOUT IT.
4:33:50PM I MAY SUPPORT IT.
4:33:51PM I MAY NOT.
4:33:52PM AGAIN, THIS TO ME IS A NONISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BLOWN UP
4:33:57PM THROUGH A BUNCH OF E-MAILS THAT ARE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO
4:34:00PM RAISE TAXES, TAKE MONEY FROM THE ROADS AND SPEND IT ON THE
4:34:03PM AQUARIUM.
4:34:03PM NOTHING STATED ABOUT THE MUSEUM OF ART IN THERE OR NOTHING
4:34:06PM STATED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE STRAZ OR ANYTHING.
4:34:09PM IT'S ALL ON THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM.
4:34:11PM I WANT TO JUDGE IT ON ITS OWN MERITS.
4:34:13PM THAT'S IT.
4:34:14PM LET'S DO THAT.
4:34:15PM AGAIN, BY THE WAY, THE AQUARIUM FOLKS HERE, I MAY VOTE NO.
4:34:19PM I MAY VOTE YES.
4:34:20PM I DON'T KNOW.
4:34:21PM BUT LET'S LET THE PROCESS WORK OUT LIKE WE HAVE FOR
4:34:24PM EVERYTHING ELSE.
4:34:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST WANT TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN
4:34:28PM VIERA JUST SAID AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ALLUDED TO
4:34:33PM IT, TOO, MAYBE MANISCALCO.
4:34:35PM WE GOT INUNDATED WITH E-MAILS, MISINFORMATION.
4:34:38PM I DON'T KNOW WHO IS FEEDING SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT IT'S
4:34:40PM JUST WRONG AND IT DOES A DISSERVICE TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE
4:34:44PM BEING FED THIS INFORMATION.
4:34:46PM IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE COUNCIL FOLKS UP HERE WHO HAVE TO
4:34:49PM REACT TO THAT.
4:34:49PM TRUST ME, I READ EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
4:34:52PM MOST OF THAT INFORMATION IS INCORRECT.
4:34:55PM AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
4:34:58PM WE CAN'T RAISE TAXES.
4:34:59PM IT'S NOT THAT SEASON.
4:35:01PM SO THAT'S KIND OF OUT OF THERE AS WELL.
4:35:05PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE -- I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN TALK
4:35:08PM ABOUT THE GOOD THAT THE AQUARIUM DOES, THE GOOD THE AQUARIUM
4:35:11PM HAS DONE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER DAY FOR THAT
4:35:14PM DISCUSSION.
4:35:14PM I WILL BE HERE TO DEFEND THE MISSION OF THE AQUARIUM AND
4:35:16PM WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:35:18PM WHAT IT'S DONE FOR THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY,
4:35:21PM WHAT IT DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR
4:35:24PM CHILDREN, THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, NOT TO MENTION THE
4:35:27PM WILDLIFE.
4:35:27PM BUT I MOVE TO MOVE ITEM 21.
4:35:32PM >> TO WHEN?
4:35:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN TO MOVE
4:35:37PM THE RESOLUTION.
4:35:38PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:35:40PM ALL -- VIERA.
4:35:42PM OH, THAT WAS YOU.
4:35:43PM OKAY.
4:35:44PM VIERA.
4:35:44PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:35:46PM AYE.
4:35:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:35:48PM MOTION CARRIES.
4:35:50PM OKAY.
4:35:52PM NEW BUSINESS.
4:35:52PM STARTING WITH BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:35:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SPEAK TO 5:01, BUT I WON'T.
4:36:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:36:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
4:36:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY FAST, IF I MAY.
4:36:03PM I MOTION -- I KNOW MICROGRANT LEVELS I BELIEVE -- I SHOULD
4:36:07PM HAVE TALKED TO STAFF BEFORE DOING THIS.
4:36:09PM IF I NEED TO TALK TO STAFF BEFORE, LET ME KNOW AND DO IT
4:36:12PM NEXT MONTH.
4:36:13PM $10,000.
4:36:14PM I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON LOOKING AT RAISING THE
4:36:16PM THRESHOLD FOR THAT BECAUSE OF INFLATION AND SO MANY
4:36:19PM DIFFERENT ISSUES.
4:36:20PM AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN, LET'S SAY, APRIL OF NEXT YEAR,
4:36:25PM IF I MAY.
4:36:26PM >> SECOND.
4:36:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
4:36:29PM THERE IS A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
4:36:32PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:36:34PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:36:34PM AYE.
4:36:35PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:36:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: LAST, WE'RE ALL TALKING TO FOLKS AT VM YBOR
4:36:41PM AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE A CRA DISCUSSION ON HAVING A CLEANUP
4:36:46PM CREW THERE SIMILAR TO DOWNTOWN.
4:36:49PM THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING
4:36:51PM THERE.
4:36:52PM AND MAYBE INVESTING SOME CRA FUNDS, IF WE CAN, AND HAVING A
4:36:55PM CLEANUP CREW.
4:36:56PM AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT IN APRIL IS
4:36:59PM WHEN WE'RE HAVING -- SO LET'S DO MARCH.
4:37:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:37:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
4:37:08PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:37:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:37:10PM AYE.
4:37:11PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:37:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
4:37:12PM THANK YOU, BOARD.
4:37:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:37:18PM YOU'LL BE CHAIR IN A FEW MINUTES.
4:37:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE NOTHING.
4:37:21PM THANK YOU.
4:37:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN?
4:37:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NOTHING.
4:37:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:37:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WANT THE DOWNTOWN CRP DISCUSSION TO BE
4:37:29PM MARCH 21st.
4:37:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:37:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CRP TO BE IN
4:37:36PM MARCH.
4:37:37PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:37:38PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:37:39PM AYE.
4:37:40PM ANYONE OPPOSED?
4:37:41PM MOTION CARRIES.
4:37:42PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
4:37:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY.
4:37:44PM I HAVE THREE, IF I COULD.
4:37:46PM I'LL SAY QUICKLY.
4:37:48PM I TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS OF APPROVING CONTRACTS.
4:37:51PM I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE US THIS WAY.
4:37:53PM SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE A TWO TO THREE STEP
4:37:57PM PROCESS FOR APPROVAL OF PROJECTS EXCEEDING 500,000 AND FOR
4:38:01PM STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON MARCH 21st WITH A REPORT AND AN
4:38:06PM RFP OR OTHER PROCESS.
4:38:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T WE HAVE THAT MOTION?
4:38:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION EARLIER ABOUT THE WRITTEN
4:38:13PM APPLICATION PROCESS?
4:38:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M ASKING FOR A -- I CAN TAKE OUT THE LAST
4:38:18PM PART IF YOU WANT.
4:38:19PM I'M ASKING FOR A TWO TO THREE-STEP PROCESS SO THEY COME TO
4:38:24PM US MULTIPLE TIMES.
4:38:26PM CAN I TAKE OUT AND THE RFP PROCESS AND JUST SAY THAT WE WANT
4:38:29PM A TWO- TO THREE-STEP PROCESS SO THAT WE'RE NOT -- SO THAT WE
4:38:33PM HAVE THEM COMING BEFORE US, EVEN IF WE HAVE AN RFP, SO THAT
4:38:37PM THEY COME TO US WITH A CONCEPT FIRST.
4:38:43PM >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, YOU'RE
4:38:45PM REFERRING TO A TWO TO THREE PROCESS OF IT COMING BEFORE THE
4:38:48PM BOARD TWO TO THREE TIMES FOR CONSIDERATION.
4:38:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
4:38:51PM >> SO YOU ARE MORE INFORMED.
4:38:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
4:38:54PM AND THE PUBLIC.
4:38:54PM >>ERICA MOODY: GOT IT.
4:39:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT.
4:39:02PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
4:39:04PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:39:06PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:39:07PM AYE.
4:39:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:39:08PM DO YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR THAT?
4:39:11PM YOU HAVE IT ALL.
4:39:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE IS WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT
4:39:15PM THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP AND YCDC TRYING TO REESTABLISH
4:39:19PM THEMSELVES.
4:39:19PM YCDC HAS AN ORGANIZING MEETING NEXT WEEK.
4:39:22PM THERE IS NO LOGO FOR THE YCDC.
4:39:24PM SO THEY ARE GOING TO CREATE A NEW ONE.
4:39:26PM BUT THERE IS AN YBOR CITY LOGO THAT HAS BEEN USED BY YCDC IN
4:39:32PM THE PAST.
4:39:32PM I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MORRIS AND ERICA.
4:39:35PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CREATE A LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD
4:39:37PM BE FREE SO THAT YBOR CHAMBER, YCDC, THE MUSEUM AND OTHERS
4:39:41PM CAN USE IT, THAT WAY WE CAN ALL PROMOTE IT, BUT IT WOULD BE
4:39:45PM UNDER CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS, IF THEY MISUSE IT, THEN THE CITY
4:39:48PM OR CRA COULD PULL IT BACK.
4:39:50PM MOTION TO ASK CRA STAFF AND MR. MASSEY CREATE A SIMPLE
4:39:53PM LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE YBOR LOGO AND TO OFFER TO LICENSE
4:39:55PM IT TO YBOR CITY GROUPS AND PRESENT FOR APPROVAL ON JANUARY
4:39:58PM 18.
4:39:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
4:40:01PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:40:03PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:40:04PM AYE.
4:40:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:40:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: AN ISSUE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS EXTENDING
4:40:10PM THE YBOR CRA DOWN TO ADAMO.
4:40:12PM MORRIS TELLS ME THAT I HAVE NEVER MADE A MOTION ON IT.
4:40:15PM THERE ARE A LOT OF ARTS THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, IF WE COULD
4:40:18PM MOVE THE BORDER BY A BLOCK OR TWO.
4:40:20PM THE PROCESS IS THE SAME AS CAPPING ONE.
4:40:22PM SO LET ME JUST READ THIS.
4:40:24PM A MOTION TO ASK CRA STAFF AND MR. MASSEY TO BEGIN THE
4:40:27PM PROCESS OF ASKING THE COUNTY TO AGREE TO EXTEND THE BOUNDARY
4:40:30PM OF THE YBOR CRA TO ADAMO AND RETURN ON FEBRUARY 8 TO REPORT
4:40:35PM AND BRING AN AGREEMENT.
4:40:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER
4:40:37PM CARLSON.
4:40:38PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:40:40PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
4:40:41PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:40:42PM AYE.
4:40:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:40:44PM MOTION CARRIES.
4:40:47PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:40:49PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:40:50PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
4:40:50PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
4:40:52PM AYE.
4:40:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:40:53PM SEE YOU IN A FEW MINUTES.
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