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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:04:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
9:04:24AM COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
9:04:25AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR A
9:04:28AM MOMENT OF SILENCE.
9:04:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
9:04:31AM IF EVERYBODY COULD STAND AND JOIN US IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
9:04:38AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:04:47AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:04:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:50AM NOW FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:51AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:04:57AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:05:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:05:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:05:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:05:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:05:12AM >> VIERA?
9:05:12AM MIRANDA?

9:05:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:14AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:05:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES
9:05:18AM FROM FEBRUARY 15 AND FEBRUARY 29?
9:05:24AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:05:26AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:05:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:05:28AM AYE.
9:05:29AM ALL RIGHT.
9:05:29AM I'LL GO THROUGH SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
9:05:32AM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE PURCHASING
9:05:35AM DEPARTMENT AS MARCH IS PURCHASING MONTH IN THE CITY AND ASK
9:05:38AM THEM TO PLEASE STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED.
9:05:40AM I KNOW WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS IN THE BACK.
9:05:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:05:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
9:05:51AM ALL RIGHT.
9:05:51AM I HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA STATING THAT HE WILL
9:05:55AM NEED TO DEPART TODAY NO LATER THAN 6 P.M.
9:05:57AM IF WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE RECORD.
9:06:01AM I HAVE THE MEMO HERE.
9:06:02AM WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
9:06:05AM REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER 48 BE PULLED FOR A DISCUSSION.
9:06:09AM WE WILL HEAR ITEM 48 FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

9:06:12AM IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
9:06:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHATEVER ORDER YOU WANT.
9:06:16AM THANK YOU.
9:06:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL
9:06:19AM MEMBER HENDERSON REQUESTING ITEM NUMBER 88 BE HEARD FIRST
9:06:22AM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:06:24AM HOWEVER, IT WILL BE HEARD FIRST AFTER ITEMS -- ITEM NUMBER 6
9:06:29AM BECAUSE MOTIONS WERE MADE AT THE FEBRUARY 15 MEETING FOR
9:06:31AM ITEM NUMBER 5 AND 6 TO BE HEARD FIRST AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:06:35AM THEN WE WILL GO TO YOURS.
9:06:37AM WE SPOKE WITH MR. TONY MULKEY OF PARKS AND REC.
9:06:40AM HE SAID THEY WILL NEED TEN MINUTES FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR
9:06:43AM 88 AND THEN FIVE MINUTES TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO SPEAK.
9:06:47AM WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM MR. MARTIN SHELBY REQUESTING
9:06:50AM ITEM 99 BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 28.
9:06:53AM IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
9:06:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:06:56AM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:06:58AM ALSO, ITEM 98, ALSO RELATED TO THE RULES TRAVEL WITH THIS.
9:07:03AM ONE THING WITH REGARD TO THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE, I
9:07:06AM CHOSE THE DATE OF THE 28th OF MARCH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT
9:07:09AM IS A VERY FULL AGENDA.
9:07:11AM I WANT COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR THAT I AM GOING TO BE BRINGING
9:07:14AM BACK SOME SUGGESTIONS, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
9:07:18AM IT IS BEST FOR COUNCIL, A FULL COUNCIL TO BE PARTAKING OF IT

9:07:23AM BECAUSE I SUSPECT THAT PART OF THE PROCESS WILL BE A SERIES
9:07:25AM OF MOTIONS THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE.
9:07:27AM I JUST WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT I WILL BE
9:07:31AM REQUESTING THIS BE HEARD WITH A FULL COUNCIL.
9:07:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT APRIL 4 INSTEAD?
9:07:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S COUNCIL PLEASURE, THAT WOULD BE
9:07:37AM FINE.
9:07:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS OKAY WITH THAT.
9:07:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 99 TO APRIL 4
9:07:45AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:07:47AM MOTION FOR 98 AND 99 TO BE CONTINUED TO APRIL 4.
9:07:51AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:07:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:07:54AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:55AM AYE.
9:07:57AM WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK THAT ITEM
9:07:59AM 101 BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 28, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:08:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
9:08:04AM WE HAVE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE SETTLED
9:08:07AM CALENDAR-WISE, MULTIPLE THINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY
9:08:12AM ATTENTION.
9:08:12AM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT JUST SO WE CAN SETTLE
9:08:18AM CALENDAR ISSUES.
9:08:19AM IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS CALENDAR ISSUES, NOW IS THE TIME, THE
9:08:24AM NEXT THREE WEEKS WILL BE THE TIME.

9:08:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM
9:08:28AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:08:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:08:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:31AM AYE.
9:08:32AM WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
9:08:35AM REQUESTING ITEMS 13, 29, 31, AND 33 BE PULLED FOR SEPARATE
9:08:40AM VOTES.
9:08:41AM WE WILL GET TO THOSE.
9:08:43AM YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.
9:08:44AM 13, 29, 31 AND 33 WILL BE SEPARATE VOTES.
9:08:48AM THEY ARE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.
9:08:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON, I BELIEVE NUMBER 13 HAS
9:08:55AM ANOTHER ITEM ATTACHED TO IT, ITEM 14.
9:08:58AM DID YOU WANT A SEPARATE VOTE ON ITEM 14 AS WELL?
9:09:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 13, 14, 29, 31 AND 33.
9:09:04AM NO MOTION NEEDED.
9:09:06AM WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
9:09:08AM 89 AND 90 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:09:11AM I'LL GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
9:09:14AM STAFF WILL BE IN PERSON FOR ITEM NUMBER 93.
9:09:20AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. STEPHEN BENSON TO CONTINUE ITEMS
9:09:26AM 102 AND 103 TO MAY 2nd.
9:09:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ALONG THOSE
9:09:35AM LINES TO MOVE 102 TO MAY 2nd PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR

9:09:39AM REQUEST.
9:09:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 103 AS WELL?
9:09:40AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 102 TO MAY 2.
9:09:50AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN?
9:09:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?.
9:09:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: 103 WE'VE BEEN GOING AROUND AND AROUND.
9:09:56AM MEET WITH STAFF AND PROPOSE LATER TO BRING IT BACK ON THE
9:09:59AM AGENDA.
9:09:59AM I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE TAKEN OFF AT THIS POINT.
9:10:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REMOVE 103 FROM THE AGENDA
9:10:04AM FROM CARLSON.
9:10:05AM SECOND BY CLENDENIN.
9:10:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:07AM AYE.
9:10:08AM ITEM 104 I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM JAVIER MARIN TO
9:10:12AM CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 16.
9:10:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:10:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:18AM AYE.
9:10:19AM LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS REAL QUICK.
9:10:22AM CHIEF BENNETT, IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE?
9:10:24AM NO, SIR.
9:10:25AM ALL RIGHT.
9:10:26AM ITEM 88, WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT, MR. BAIRD?

9:10:31AM OH, I'M SORRY.
9:10:33AM 88 IS BEING MOVED UP.
9:10:35AM 89 AND 90 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:10:37AM THAT IS A YES.
9:10:39AM ITEM 91, WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT?
9:10:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:10:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 92?
9:10:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:10:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF PRESENT FOR 92.
9:10:52AM ITEM NUMBER 93 WE DISCUSSED THAT THEY WILL BE IN PERSON.
9:11:01AM THAT IS A YES.
9:11:02AM ITEM 94?
9:11:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:11:07AM THERE IS A PowerPoint.
9:11:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 95 THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT
9:11:11AM FOR THIS.
9:11:12AM STAFF PRESENT?
9:11:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, I -- BASICALLY THE REPORT TALKS ABOUT
9:11:18AM NEXT STEPS.
9:11:19AM SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED STAFF HERE FOR THAT.
9:11:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO STAFF FOR 95.
9:11:25AM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:26AM WE CAN RECEIVE AND FILE THAT AT THAT TIME.
9:11:28AM ITEM NUMBER 96.
9:11:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE THEY

9:11:35AM JUST SUBMITTED THE PREVIOUS MEMORANDUM AND THE WHOLE POINT
9:11:38AM WAS TO TALK TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND REPORT ON THAT.
9:11:42AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO -- I WANT TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 96 TO APRIL
9:11:48AM 4th ON HOW TO EXPEDITE PAYMENTS TO LANDLORDS.
9:11:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:11:54AM HURTAK.
9:11:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:11:56AM THIS IS TO APRIL 4 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:59AM AYE.
9:11:59AM ITEM NUMBER 97, WE HAVE A WRITTEN RESPONSE.
9:12:02AM IS THAT SUFFICIENT?
9:12:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT -- WE NEED TO
9:12:08AM VOTE ON THE CHANGE.
9:12:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SAY YES ON 97.
9:12:14AM WE ALREADY DISCUSSED 98, 99.
9:12:18AM ITEM 100.
9:12:20AM WE'LL SAY YES.
9:12:22AM 101, 102, 103, 104 HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
9:12:28AM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
9:12:34AM MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
9:12:37AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
9:12:39AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:12:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:41AM AYE.

9:12:42AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:12:45AM POLICE, SIR.
9:13:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO HONOR
9:13:06AM OUR TAMPA POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:13:09AM LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
9:13:11AM DOES TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE, A
9:13:14AM COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING
9:13:17AM CERTAINLY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICERS.
9:13:20AM THESE ARE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ALWAYS STAND TALL FOR US AND NO
9:13:24AM MATTER HOW THE PUBLIC FEELS ABOUT THEM, THEY ARE ALWAYS
9:13:28AM GOING TO SUPPORT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED.
9:13:31AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR TAMPA POLICE CHIEF
9:13:36AM BERCAW TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS MONTH'S HONOREE.
9:13:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:13:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:13:45AM THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STORY.
9:13:47AM I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL BE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.
9:13:50AM AN OFFICER'S RESPONSE AND TRAINING ARE EXEMPLIFIED DURING
9:13:54AM TIMES OF IMMENSE STRESS AND PRESSURE.
9:13:57AM YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT ONE THAT FELL UNDER THAT PURVIEW.
9:14:01AM THEIR SKILLS ARE PUT TO THE TEST WHEN CALLS FOR SERVICE
9:14:05AM REQUIRE ADDITIONAL AND ADVANCE SET OF SKILLS AND TRAINING.
9:14:08AM WE'RE GOING TO LEAD INTO EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS.
9:14:10AM BUT THIS IS THE CASE FOR, TO MY RIGHT, DIVE TEAM MEMBER
9:14:14AM MASTER POLICE OFFICER DAN SPEARS ON THE MORNING OF DECEMBER

9:14:17AM 17th OF LAST YEAR.
9:14:19AM THE TAMPA POLICE MARINE UNIT AND DIVE TEAM RESPONDED TO THE
9:14:23AM SHRIMP DOCKS ON THE 2600 BLOCK OF CAUSEWAY BOULEVARD AFTER A
9:14:28AM REPORT OF A DIESEL FUEL LEAK AND A CAPSIZED VESSEL.
9:14:32AM THE SHIP'S CAPTAIN WAS STILL BELIEVED TO BE ON BOARD.
9:14:35AM ONCE OFFICERS ARRIVED THEY LOCATED THE VESSEL ACTIVELY
9:14:38AM LEAKING DIESEL FUEL WHICH WAS DECLARED A HAZMAT SCENE.
9:14:42AM WORKING ALONGSIDE THE U.S. COAST GUARD, OUR DIVE TEAM WORKED
9:14:46AM TO CONTROL THE FUEL LEAK TO MAKE CONDITIONS SAFER FOR THE
9:14:49AM DIVERS TO ATTEMPT TO ENTER AND ATTEMPT A RESCUE OR RECOVERY
9:14:55AM OF THE CAPTAIN.
9:14:56AM LATER THAT EVENING MPO DAN SPEARS WAS ABLE TO ENTER THE
9:15:00AM WATER AND BEGIN A RESCUE RECOVERY MISSION.
9:15:04AM A GRUELING EFFORT AND DIFFICULT DIVE WITH ZERO VISIBILITY.
9:15:09AM SO SOMETIMES WE FILM THESE THINGS, BUT IN THIS CASE, EVEN IF
9:15:12AM WE HAD THE FILM, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE.
9:15:15AM HE'S LITERALLY DIVING BLIND.
9:15:17AM HE USED VARIOUS TOOLS TO FORCE ENTRY INTO THE VESSEL
9:15:20AM UNDERWATER.
9:15:21AM ONCE INSIDE, HE WAS ABLE TO RECOVER THE CAPTAIN AND BRING
9:15:24AM HIM TO THE SURFACE WHERE HE WAS LATER IDENTIFIED AND
9:15:27AM CONFIRMED TO BE THE CAPTAIN OF THE VESSEL.
9:15:29AM AS WE KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THE CAPTAIN DIDN'T MAKE IT BUT IT WAS
9:15:33AM STILL A GREAT CLOSURE FOR THE FAMILY TO KNOW THAT HE WAS IN
9:15:35AM THERE AND WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER HIM OUT OF THERE.

9:15:38AM HIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE AND HIS ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY
9:15:41AM PROBLEM SOLVE BROUGHT CLOSURE TO THE FAMILY AFTER A TRAGIC
9:15:46AM LOSS AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE RECOGNIZING MASTER POLICE
9:15:49AM OFFICER DAN SPEARS FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:15:51AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:15:52AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: NOW WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT
9:16:03AM TO COME AND SHOW THEIR APPRECIATION.
9:16:06AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY.
9:16:08AM TAMPA PBA.
9:16:10AM PLAQUE PRESENTED FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
9:16:13AM AND ON BEHALF OF PETE BREVI AND BUSCH GARDENS, THESE ARE
9:16:17AM TICKETS TO BUSCH GARDENS.
9:16:25AM >> BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS, I WANTED TO THANK YOU
9:16:30AM FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:16:31AM I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT MYSELF.
9:16:36AM WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED.
9:16:39AM JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BALL, A GAME BALL AND ALSO I WANT
9:16:49AM YOU TO KNOW THAT WHEN WE START OUR SEASON, YOUR WIFE WILL
9:16:54AM CALL ME AND I WILL GET YOU TWO TICKETS FOR YOU TO COME INTO
9:16:58AM A REGULAR SEASON.
9:16:59AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:07AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:17:08AM ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS, WANT
9:17:11AM TO OFFER YOU TWO TICKETS TO AN UPCOMING SHOW WITH BEVERAGE

9:17:17AM TICKETS AS WELL.
9:17:18AM FOR YOU AND YOUR WIFE TO ENJOY.
9:17:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:17:24AM I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:17:30AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:17:32AM WE ARE THANKFUL FOR YOU KEEPING TAMPA SAFE, KEEPING OUR
9:17:35AM WATERWAYS HEALTHY AND HAPPY AND SAFE.
9:17:38AM TAMPA RELIES ON OUR WATERWAYS SO MUCH.
9:17:43AM GIFT CARD TO ENJOY PAELLA, OYSTERS AT ULELE.
9:17:49AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:17:50AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:17:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:17:56AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:57AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
9:17:59AM I'M JENNIFER CURRY FROM BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:18:02AM ON BEHALF OF OUR DEALERSHIP, WE WANTED TO PRESENT YOU A GIFT
9:18:06AM CARD AS WELL AS A PACKAGE FOR YOUR CAR AND OTHER SWAG.
9:18:12AM >> THANK YOU.
9:18:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:18:17AM JILL WITECKI, TAMPA THEATRE.
9:18:19AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:18:21AM LOVE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR WIFE TO JOIN US IN THE NEXT YEAR
9:18:26AM TO THE THEATER.
9:18:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING.
9:18:31AM CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.

9:18:33AM TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING, PRESENT A GIFT CARD FOR
9:18:38AM DINNER, RESTAURANT OF YOUR CHOICE.
9:18:41AM >> THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US.
9:18:42AM THANK YOU.
9:18:43AM >> HI.
9:18:44AM MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:18:45AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF ZOO TAMPA.
9:18:50AM >> MARK HANEY, ZOO TAMPA.
9:18:52AM >> I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
9:18:54AM I AM A ROOKIE SCUBA DIVER.
9:18:58AM MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS A MASTER DIVER WITH THE NAVY.
9:19:02AM HE'S RETIRING THIS MONTH.
9:19:03AM I CAN'T WAIT TO GET HOME AND TELL HIM YOUR STORY, I MET A
9:19:07AM REALLY COOL HERO.
9:19:08AM I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
9:19:10AM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SERVICE.
9:19:11AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
9:19:13AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:14AM ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WE'RE PRESENTING YOU
9:19:16AM WITH AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND I THINK
9:19:19AM IT'S YOUR WIFE.
9:19:21AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:19:22AM AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:25AM >> ZOO TCHOTCHKES, INCLUDING SEA TURTLES, WHICH ARE GREAT
9:19:30AM DIVERS.

9:19:32AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:19:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:19:36AM I HAVE A LITTLE SCRIPT HERE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOU.
9:19:42AM THIS IS FOR YOU AND FOR THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IF THAT'S
9:19:45AM OKAY.
9:19:46AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
9:19:47AM >> ALL RIGHTY.
9:19:48AM WE'RE AT A CONVERGENCE OF HOLY TIMES TO BE FILLED WITH
9:19:52AM PRAYER AND REFLECTION, MAY THE GOD OF ABRAHAM WHICH ONCE
9:19:56AM LOOK OVER YOU AND PROTECT EACH OF YOU AND THE FIRST
9:20:00AM RESPONDERS, HONOR THE POLICE AND FIRE AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.
9:20:03AM GOOD LORD SENDS MESSAGES TO ALL OF US, SOME LISTEN AND SOME
9:20:06AM DON'T.
9:20:07AM YOU AS FIRST RESPONDERS LISTEN AND YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:20:11AM LISTEN TO THE WORD OF THE LORD AND YOU WILL MAKE A
9:20:14AM DIFFERENCE.
9:20:15AM HONOR HIS NAME, THE HOLY OF HOLIES, THE LORD OF LORDS, MAY
9:20:19AM HIS BLESSINGS BE UPON YOU AND GUIDE YOU.
9:20:22AM I HAVE SOME GIFT CERTIFICATES FOR YOU.
9:20:26AM THAT'S THE BIG MESSAGE FIRST.
9:20:28AM ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, PROVIDING WITH YOU
9:20:34AM A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, BREAKFAST,
9:20:37AM LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:20:38AM BELLABRAVA, WE'RE PROVIDING YOU WITH ANOTHER GIFT
9:20:41AM CERTIFICATE, ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.

9:20:43AM THAT'S IN THE MIDTOWN SECTION.
9:20:45AM MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
9:20:50AM GIFT CERTIFICATE ENJOY YOURSELF FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:20:53AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, ENJOY YOURSELF LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:20:59AM BRAND-NEW ONE, JACKSON BISTRO, ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE,
9:21:02AM LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:21:04AM ONLY THING I DON'T HAVE IS A WORKOUT PROGRAM FOR YOU TO WORK
9:21:07AM IT ALL OFF.
9:21:07AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:21:08AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:11AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
9:21:11AM THANK YOU.
9:21:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL TAMPA CITY
9:21:18AM COUNCIL AND CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S OUR GREAT PLEASURE AND HONOR
9:21:21AM TO GIVE YOU THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:21:23AM WE THANK YOU, SIR.
9:21:25AM GOD BLESS YOU.
9:21:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:26AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, YOU MAY.
9:21:35AM >> WOW.
9:21:36AM IT'S A LITTLE OVERWHELMING.
9:21:38AM A LOT OF SUPPORT.
9:21:39AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:21:39AM THANK YOU ALL.
9:21:43AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:21:43AM IT'S A PRIVILEGE SERVING THE COMMUNITY HERE.
9:21:49AM ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN THE NATION, ONE OF THE BEST
9:21:51AM DEPARTMENTS IN THE NATION, PRESTIGIOUS CHAIN OF COMMAND WE
9:21:54AM HAVE.
9:21:55AM A LOT OF SUPPORT.
9:21:56AM IT'S AMAZING.
9:21:57AM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING MY SERVICE TO THE
9:21:59AM COMMUNITY.
9:22:00AM I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:22:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:22:03AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: NOW, CITY COUNCIL, IF THEY WISH TO SAY
9:22:09AM ANYTHING.
9:22:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND HEROISM.
9:22:12AM LIKE MARY LOU SAID, I'M ALSO A RECREATIONAL DIVER FOR THE
9:22:16AM LAST 30, 35 YEARS.
9:22:18AM I'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME SWIM-THROUGHS AND WRECKS.
9:22:22AM IT'S TERRIFYING GOING THROUGH WRECKS SITTING THERE A LONG
9:22:26AM TIME.
9:22:27AM I ALWAYS WONDERED WHO WERE THE BRAVE PEOPLE THAT WOULD GO
9:22:30AM INTO RETENTION PONDS AND PLACES WHERE THERE'S NO VISIBILITY
9:22:34AM AT ALL AND THE MUD AND LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DECEASED,
9:22:38AM ACCIDENT VICTIMS AND MURDER VICTIMS.
9:22:40AM I CAN'T IMAGINE THE BRAVERY THAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES
9:22:44AM HAVE IN DOING THAT.

9:22:46AM I THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S AN INCREDIBLE ACT OF
9:22:50AM HEROISM YOU DO.
9:22:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:22:53AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:22:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND SHALIA, OFFICER SPEAR'S WONDERFUL WIFE.
9:23:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:09AM WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT HERE.
9:23:17AM NEXT WE HAVE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
9:23:21AM GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:24:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:24:16AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO DO THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTER OF THE
9:24:19AM QUARTER, LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER WHO IS WITH US TODAY.
9:24:24AM TO SPEAK ABOUT HIM WILL BE OUR TAMPA FIRE CHIEF, BARBARA
9:24:28AM TRIPP.
9:24:28AM COME FORWARD, MA'AM.
9:24:32AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF WITH TAMPA FIRE
9:24:35AM RESCUE.
9:24:36AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO
9:24:39AM LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER.
9:24:41AM ASSIGNED TO THE CROSS CREEK AREA IN NEW TAMPA.
9:24:45AM ASSIGNED TO RESCUE 21B WHO HAS BEEN SELECTED AS FIREFIGHTER
9:24:49AM OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024.
9:24:52AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER HAS PROUDLY SERVED TAMPA FIRE RESCUE
9:24:56AM OVER 21 YEARS WITH A TOTAL OF 24 YEARS IN THE PROFESSION.

9:25:00AM HE EMBODIES AS TAMPA FIRE WHO HAS UNYIELDING FOCUS TO THE
9:25:05AM TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
9:25:06AM HIS ABILITIES AND DEDICATION TO DUTY CONSISTENTLY RESULT IN
9:25:10AM SUCCESSES THAT HAVE ENHANCED THE COMMUNITY CONFIDENCE IN
9:25:14AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AS A WHOLE.
9:25:15AM HE IS A KEY PLAYER TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS RELYING ON
9:25:19AM PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY WITH THE FIRST RESPONSE AND
9:25:23AM IMMEDIATE RESPONSE AS WELL AS QUALITY RESPONSE.
9:25:26AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER HAS PROUDLY SERVED IN THE RESCUE
9:25:30AM DIVISION FOR OVER 20 YEARS OF HIS 21 YEARS WITH TAMPA FIRE
9:25:34AM RESCUE.
9:25:34AM HE HAS HONED HIS SKILLS AS PARAMEDIC INSTRUCTOR FOR
9:25:38AM HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE, PASCO HERNANDO COMMUNITY
9:25:40AM COLLEGE AND KAISER INSTITUTE.
9:25:42AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER HAS DEDICATED A GREAT PORTION OF HIS
9:25:45AM TIME TO MENTORING THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE THE
9:25:49AM DESIRE TO BECOME PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTERS THROUGH MULTIPLE
9:25:53AM PROGRAMS AS WELL AS SPAN A COURSE DEVELOPER AND LEAD
9:25:56AM INSTRUCTOR FOR MANY OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE SERVICE COURSES.
9:26:00AM HE SPENT NUMEROUS HOURS TEACHING MEDICAL COURSES FOR THE
9:26:04AM DEPARTMENT.
9:26:04AM HE IS AN OUTSTANDING LEAD INSTRUCTOR FOR MANY OF THE
9:26:10AM PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF HIS INTELLIGENCE, HIS WORK ETHICS, HIS
9:26:13AM ABILITY TO INSTRUCT, GUIDANCE AND ABILITY TO MOLD THE YOUNG
9:26:17AM MINDS INTO COMPETENT PARAMEDICS IN THE FUTURE.

9:26:20AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER IS ONE OF THE GO-TO GUYS WHO MAY NEED --
9:26:25AM HE'S ONE OF THE GO-TO INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NEED ASSISTANCE
9:26:29AM REGARDING PROPER APPLICATION OF THE MEDICAL PROTOCOL
9:26:33AM ESTABLISHED BY THE MEDICAL DIRECTORS.
9:26:34AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER IS A CERTIFIED HAZMAT TECHNICIAN WHO
9:26:39AM PROBABLY HELPED OUT ON THAT SCENE FROM THE PREVIOUS OFFICER.
9:26:42AM HE IS ALSO A CERTIFIED FIRE INSPECTOR.
9:26:45AM E-BOARD MEMBER OF LOCAL 754 AND A TRAINING PROCTOR FOR
9:26:49AM EVALUATING NEW PARAMEDICS.
9:26:52AM AS WELL HE IS A PAST MEMBER, 15 YEARS FOR THE URBAN SEARCH
9:26:55AM AND RESCUE TEAM.
9:26:57AM THAT IS PART OF THE FLORIDA TASK FORCE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY
9:26:59AM ARE EXPOSED TO A LOT OF CRITICAL SITUATIONS, DISASTERS THAT
9:27:03AM HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
9:27:05AM REGARDING HIS DEDICATION TO THE JOB AND HIS CREW, LIEUTENANT
9:27:10AM TRAUTNER HOLDS TABLETOP EXERCISES WITH HIS CREW AND MAINTAIN
9:27:14AM TRAINING FOR SUPPRESSION FOR FIRE AS WELL AS E.M.S. WHICH IS
9:27:17AM MEDICAL WHERE HIS PASSION LIES WITH THE E.M.S.
9:27:20AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER IS A LOVING HUSBAND AND FATHER AND HE IS
9:27:23AM DEFINITELY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE LIVES OF HIS CHILDREN.
9:27:26AM HE IS TRULY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO POSSESSES INTELLIGENCE AND
9:27:30AM GOD-GIVEN ABILITY TO MASTER ANY FIELD OF STUDY, SKILL, OR
9:27:34AM TRADE NO MATTER THE COMPLEXITY.
9:27:36AM IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE
9:27:39AM FIRST QUARTER, LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER.

9:27:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
9:27:51AM NOW WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME
9:27:53AM FORWARD AND SAY SOME WORDS.
9:27:54AM I KNOW MR. STOCCO WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOME EXTRA WORDS FOR HIS
9:27:59AM FORMER FELLOW BOARD MEMBER.
9:28:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:28:03AM NICK STOCCO.
9:28:04AM WE WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT THE FIRE CHIEF SAID.
9:28:07AM LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER TRULY IS A LEADER AND MENTOR AND
9:28:12AM TRULY SERVED THE COMMUNITY.
9:28:14AM WE WANT TO ECHO THE FIRE CHIEF'S WORDS ON THAT.
9:28:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING, 17 YEARS AGO I WAS AN
9:28:20AM EXPLORER AND I WAS DOING A RIDE-ALONG AS A TEENAGER, AND
9:28:24AM THAT DAY IN EAST TAMPA WE WERE AT HILLSBOROUGH AND 30th OF
9:28:28AM THE FIRE STATION AND LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER WAS A PARAMEDIC AT
9:28:32AM THE TIME.
9:28:32AM HE WAS ACTING IN THE ROLE OF A LIEUTENANT.
9:28:35AM THIS IS 17 YEARS AGO.
9:28:36AM I WITNESSED MY FIRST-EVER CARDIAC ARREST ON A CALL.
9:28:41AM IT WAS AT THE TGH HEALTH PLEX JUST BEHIND THE STATION AT
9:28:45AM HILLSBOROUGH AND 30th.
9:28:47AM BY THE TIME WE GOT TO TAMPA GENERAL, THE INDIVIDUAL HAD
9:28:50AM REGAINED THEIR HEART RATE AND LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER WAS
9:28:56AM BREATHING FOR THEM.

9:28:56AM LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER SAVED THAT PERSON.
9:29:01AM 17 YEARS AGO I WITNESSED MY FIRST-EVER REVIVAL OF LIFE AND
9:29:05AM IT WAS UNDER LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER'S CARE.
9:29:08AM FROM THEN I THOUGHT EVERYONE GOT REVIVED UNTIL I GOT HIRED
9:29:12AM AND I REALIZED IT TAKES SOMEONE SPECIAL LIKE JAMES TRAUTNER
9:29:16AM TO DO SO.
9:29:17AM WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
9:29:19AM WE HAVE A PLAQUE ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.
9:29:21AM AND WE HAVE A TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL HAT.
9:29:24AM AND ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, FOUR COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS.
9:29:30AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:29:30AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:38AM >> STEPHEN WHITE.
9:29:39AM I'M THE CO-CHAIR OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTER AWARDS REVIEW
9:29:45AM BOARD.
9:29:45AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT HIM WITH THIS PLAQUE ALONG WITH A
9:29:49AM PIN THAT THEY CAN WEAR ON THE UNIFORM FROM NOW ON THAT
9:29:52AM INDICATES THAT YOU WERE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
9:29:54AM I WANT TO SAY I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING HIM AND
9:29:57AM WORKING WITH HIM FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
9:29:59AM WE TAUGHT AT THE SKILLS LAB AND EVERYTHING THEY SAID IS
9:30:02AM TRUE.
9:30:03AM HE'S AN OUTSTANDING PARAMEDIC.
9:30:04AM HE'S SOMEBODY THAT REALLY HAS A LOT OF PASSION FOR IT AND WE
9:30:08AM HAVE A LOT OF GREAT MEDICS.

9:30:10AM BUT SOMEBODY YOU WANT WORKING ON YOUR FAMILY MEMBER, THIS IS
9:30:13AM THE GUY I WOULD PICK.
9:30:14AM HE IS OUTSTANDING.
9:30:15AM NOT ONLY PROUD TO CALL HIM A COWORKER, BUT A FRIEND.
9:30:19AM GOOD PEOPLE.
9:30:22AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
9:30:30AM ON BEHALF OF THE BUCCANEERS AND THE GLAZERS, THE ENTIRE
9:30:34AM ORGANIZATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS FOOTBALL TO
9:30:36AM LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER.
9:30:38AM AS MANY OF YOU HERE KNOW, OR ALL OF YOU PROBABLY,
9:30:42AM LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF THE BUCCANEERS TO PRESENT
9:30:43AM FOOTBALLS TO PEOPLE WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THEIR NORMAL
9:30:47AM DUTIES.
9:30:47AM CLEARLY, THAT'S WHAT LIEUTENANT TRAUTNER HAS DONE GIVEN WHAT
9:30:51AM WE HEARD TODAY.
9:30:52AM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT HIM WITH THE FOOTBALL.
9:30:53AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:30:55AM >> ON BEHALF OF US, HE ALREADY SAID EVERYTHING PERFECT.
9:31:00AM I HAVE A DEAR, DEAR STORY.
9:31:04AM BY THE NAME OF BENNETT.
9:31:07AM HIM AND I USED TO RUN BEHIND THE ACADEMY WHEN WE WORK OUT.
9:31:12AM VERY YOUNG STALLION.
9:31:14AM AND THEN WE KEPT RUNNING, HE CHEATED AND PRACTICED A LITTLE
9:31:19AM MORE AND THAT'S THE ONLY TIME HE BEAT ME.

9:31:21AM I KNOW THE ACADEMY STILL RUNS THE DRILLS IN THE FIRE.
9:31:26AM WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE
9:31:28AM THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
9:31:29AM I KNOW THAT THIS YOUNG LADY IS GOING TO REMEMBER, PLEASE LET
9:31:34AM ME KNOW WHICH GAME YOU WANT TO COME AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT
9:31:37AM YOU HAVE TICKETS FOR THAT.
9:31:38AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:41AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:44AM >> HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
9:32:04AM RESTAURANTS.
9:32:04AM THANK YOU FOR BEING AN AMAZING FAMILY MEMBER TO HAVE
9:32:07AM PARAMEDIC TRAINING, HAZMAT TRAINING, FIRE TRAINING, ALL THAT
9:32:10AM YOU DO.
9:32:10AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A LEADER.
9:32:12AM WE WANT YOU TO ENJOY YOURSELVES WITH YOUR FAMILY.
9:32:14AM CHOOSE ANY OF OUR RESTAURANTS AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:32:17AM PLENTY HERE IN THE TAMPA AREA.
9:32:19AM JUST ENJOY YOURSELF WITH A NIGHT OUT.
9:32:21AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:32:27AM >> JILL WITECKI, TAMPA THEATRE.
9:32:29AM ON BEHALF OF THE THEATER, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR
9:32:32AM YOUR SERVICE, CONGRATULATE YOU ON THIS HONOR.
9:32:34AM PRESENT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY A MEMBER TO THE THEATER FOR THE
9:32:36AM NEXT YEAR AND LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR FAMILY FAVORITE SERIES
9:32:40AM STARTS AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

9:32:41AM WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
9:32:43AM >> THANK YOU.
9:32:48AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:32:53AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:32:54AM TWO TICKETS TO ATTEND AN UPCOMING SHOW, BEVERAGE TICKETS
9:32:58AM INCLUDED.
9:32:58AM >> I LOVE WORKING WITH THE STRAZ CENTER.
9:33:01AM I DO FIRE WATCH EVENTS THERE, MEDICAL EVENTS.
9:33:04AM >> NOW YOU CAN BE A PATRON.
9:33:06AM >> GREAT PLACE TO BE.
9:33:07AM THANK YOU.
9:33:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:33:13AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:33:13AM JENNIFER CURRY FROM BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:33:18AM WE HAVE A GIFT CARD AND GOODIES.
9:33:21AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
9:33:22AM LOVE TO HOST YOU AND SERVE YOU.
9:33:28AM >> I JUST BOUGHT MY WIFE A 2021 FORD EXPEDITION.
9:33:33AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:33:34AM BEST CAR.
9:33:35AM PHENOMENAL.
9:33:44AM >> STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:33:46AM CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
9:33:48AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING, GIFT CARD FOR
9:33:52AM DINNER.

9:33:53AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:54AM TELL MR. TODD I SAY HELLO.
9:34:02AM >> MARK HANEY.
9:34:04AM >> WE'RE HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
9:34:06AM I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
9:34:07AM WE'RE PRESENTING YOU WITH AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO
9:34:10AM FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:34:11AM YOU SOUND LIKE AN AMAZING PERSON, BUT I WAS PARTICULARLY
9:34:15AM IMPRESSED WITH THE MENTORSHIP BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY A
9:34:17AM SELFLESS ACT TO BRING UP THE NEXT GENERATION.
9:34:19AM IT IS A VERY PERSONAL AND DEDICATED THING.
9:34:22AM THANK YOU FOR NOT ONLY WHAT YOU DO, BUT YOU'RE BRINGING
9:34:25AM ALONG THE NEXT GENERATION.
9:34:26AM THAT'S VERY AWESOME.
9:34:28AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:34:28AM THANK YOU TO ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE PARAMEDICS.
9:34:31AM MY FAMILY HAS USED YOU SEVERAL TIMES AND YOU'VE DONE
9:34:34AM FANTASTIC THINGS BY US.
9:34:36AM THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:34:37AM >> YEAR FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.
9:34:39AM NOW IT CAN BE SMOKY THE BEAR FOR THE FIRE SIDE OR A CARE
9:34:44AM BEAR FOR THE EMT SIDE.
9:34:47AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:34:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:34:50AM THE MESSAGE I READ EARLIER WAS FOR YOU ALL AS WELL.

9:34:57AM I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE ATTENDED THE FIREFIGHTERS' BANQUET
9:35:04AM THIS YEAR.
9:35:04AM MY GRANDSON AND ONE OF HIS FRIENDS, THEY ARE CANDIDATES IN
9:35:08AM THE ACADEMY.
9:35:09AM I WANT TO TELL YOU THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENED WHEN WE
9:35:11AM ARRIVED WAS ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY FLOCKED TO YOU, AND
9:35:16AM THEY WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT, WELL, THIS GREAT PROGRAM AND
9:35:19AM ALL OF THAT.
9:35:19AM BUT THE MENTORSHIP IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
9:35:22AM AND THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE RIGHT MESSAGE EARLY
9:35:26AM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THEM.
9:35:29AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO, PROVIDING WITH YOU A GIFT
9:35:35AM CERTIFICATE.
9:35:35AM YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH AND DINNER.
9:35:38AM BELLABRAVA, SAME, LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:35:41AM DAILY EATS, BREAKFAST, LUNCH, OR DINNER.
9:35:44AM ON BEHALF OF THE MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK, YOUR CHOICE,
9:35:49AM LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:35:50AM YUMMY HOUSE LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:35:53AM HERE ARE YOUR CERTIFICATES.
9:35:55AM THE LETTER SERVES AS A CERTIFICATE ON SOME OF THEM AND
9:35:59AM OTHERS THEY REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE THE GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:36:01AM ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR
9:36:03AM MENTORSHIP.
9:36:04AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

9:36:05AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:36:05AM [APPLAUSE]
9:36:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S VERY OBVIOUS, SIR, THAT YOU ARE LOVED AND
9:36:14AM YOU ARE RESPECTED BY MANY, MANY PEOPLE.
9:36:16AM YOU HAVE ONE HELL OF A LEGACY IN TAMPA FIRE AND THE CITY OF
9:36:17AM TAMPA.
9:36:19AM SO BECAUSE OF THAT, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HONORS YOU, SIR.
9:36:21AM GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.
9:36:22AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU MAY, SIR.
9:36:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:36:29AM LIEUTENANT JAMES TRAUTNER, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE 21.
9:36:33AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
9:36:37AM CITY STAFF THAT'S HERE, MY EXECUTIVE STAFF, FIRE DEPARTMENT
9:36:41AM STAFF, CHIEF TRIPP, AND ALL HER TEAM.
9:36:47AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, LIKE TO THANK MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS
9:36:52AM CHRIST FOR LOOKING OVER ME IN MY 21, 22 YEAR CAREER AT TFR,
9:36:59AM KEEPING ME AND MY COWORKERS SAFE.
9:37:01AM NUMBER TWO, MY FAMILY.
9:37:05AM MY LOVELY WIFE REBECCA.
9:37:10AM MY DAUGHTER JAYLY.
9:37:13AM MY SON IS NOT HERE.
9:37:15AM HE'S CHASING HIS DREAM.
9:37:16AM HE'S A COLLEGE BASEBALL PLAYER.
9:37:18AM THEY HAVE A GAME TODAY, SO HE COULDN'T ATTEND.
9:37:21AM BUT WHAT MY WIFE AND KIDS HAVE DEALT WITH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS

9:37:29AM CAREER, A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS, MORE UPS THAN DOWNS, BUT MY
9:37:33AM SUPPORT, MY ROCK, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
9:37:37AM LOCAL 754, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ACKNOWLEDGING ME.
9:37:44AM GREAT GROUP OF GUYS.
9:37:46AM MY COLLEAGUES, ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS, ALL THE PARAMEDICS, ALL
9:37:50AM THE EMTs.
9:37:52AM EVERYBODY AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, WE ARE THE BEST DEPARTMENT
9:37:55AM IN THE COUNTRY WITHOUT A DOUBT.
9:37:56AM WE'VE GOT UPS AND DOWNS, BUMPS AND BRUISES, BUT EVERY
9:38:00AM DEPARTMENT HAS THAT.
9:38:01AM BUT I'M SO HAPPY TO BE A TAMPA FIREFIGHTER.
9:38:07AM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I HAVE SOME MENTORS IN THE ROOM, SOME
9:38:12AM PEOPLE THAT MEAN A LOT IN MY CAREER OVER THE YEARS.
9:38:18AM RETIRED CHIEF TERRY HALL, CAPTAIN GRAY, TRAINING SPECIALIST.
9:38:25AM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, TRAINING CHIEF
9:38:29AM DITMAN WAS MY LIEUTENANT MANY YEARS AGO.
9:38:33AM STEERED ME ON THE RIGHT PATH.
9:38:35AM THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT MEAN A LOT TO
9:38:39AM ME.
9:38:40AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:38:41AM I'LL GIVE THE MIKE AND YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR
9:38:45AM COUNCIL MEETING.
9:38:46AM THANK YOU.
9:38:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY?
9:38:49AM CONGRATULATIONS.

9:38:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, FOR YOUR SACRIFICE.
9:38:54AM EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE AND FOR YOUR FAMILY.
9:38:56AM THE SACRIFICE THEY HAVE MADE BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY.
9:38:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CONGRATULATIONS.
9:38:59AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:39:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WAS GOING TO SAY I THOUGHT WHEN I READ
9:39:03AM YOUR BIO, THE PART THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IS THAT YOU
9:39:07AM HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY.
9:39:09AM THEY HAVE WANTED TO PROMOTE YOU AND YOU HAVE SAID, NO, THIS
9:39:13AM IS MY PASSION.
9:39:14AM I AM A TEACHER.
9:39:15AM AND AS A FORMER EDUCATOR AND I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
9:39:18AM ALSO AN EDUCATOR, JUST I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:39:23AM AND I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW
9:39:27AM WHEN YOU FOUND YOUR RIGHT FIT.
9:39:28AM I'M THRILLED THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO STAY THERE AND
9:39:31AM CONTINUE TO HELP ALL THE FOLKS WHO ARE MOVING FORWARD.
9:39:33AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:39:34AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
9:39:34AM THANK YOU.
9:39:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:39:36AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:39:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THIS 22 YEARS OF SAVING LIVES AND
9:39:40AM RUNNING INTO BURNING BUILDINGS DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR YOU, I
9:39:43AM THINK THERE IS A FUTURE IN HOCKING FORDS ON THESE 30-SECOND

9:39:51AM COMMERCIALS.
9:39:53AM [LAUGHTER]
9:39:53AM SO, YEAH, GOOD JOB.
9:39:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:39:53AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND LET THE ROOM
9:40:03AM CLEAR.
9:40:04AM OKAY.
9:41:10AM GOOD MORNING.
9:41:10AM RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO FOR THE NEXT AWARD.
9:41:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, GOOD
9:41:24AM MORNING.
9:41:25AM ALL RIGHT.
9:41:25AM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND PRESENT THIS
9:41:28AM COMMENDATION TO TAMPA PRIDE FOR THE 10th ANNUAL TAMPA
9:41:31AM PRIDE CELEBRATION WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE ON MARCH
9:41:34AM 23rd IN HISTORIC YBOR CITY.
9:41:36AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES THE 10th ANNUAL
9:41:39AM TAMPA PRIDE CELEBRATION.
9:41:40AM CITY OF TAMPA'S DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH AND ONLY FITTING
9:41:43AM IT SHOULD BE CELEBRATED.
9:41:44AM YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY IS LEGENDARY, INCLUDING
9:41:46AM THE HOLIDAY TOY DRIVE, THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND AND THE UPCOMING
9:41:52AM 5K RAINBOW RUN AMONG MANY THINGS.
9:41:55AM INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY MEMBERS OF TAMPA'S LGBT

9:42:01AM COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF OUR CITY, STATE
9:42:05AM AND COUNTRY.
9:42:06AM IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S PROFOUND HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO
9:42:08AM PRESENT TAMPA PRIDE WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 7th DAY
9:42:12AM OF MARCH, 2024.
9:42:13AM HERE IS KERRY WEST.
9:42:16AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:42:16AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.
9:42:23AM >> SURE, I WOULD.
9:42:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:29AM >> ON BEHALF OF TAMPA PRIDE, OUR TEN-YEAR ANNIVERSARY, WE
9:42:33AM HAVE A LOT GOING ON AND INCLUDING THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
9:42:37AM THAT JUST LEFT THAT COULD BE PART OF OUR 5K RUN THIS
9:42:40AM SATURDAY MORNING AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING.
9:42:42AM WE GREATLY APPRECIATE OUR INAUGURAL RUN AND RAINBOW RUN.
9:42:46AM THAT WILL BE OUT AT AL LOPEZ, SO ANYBODY WANTS TO COME OUT
9:42:50AM AND DO RUNNING, JOGGING, WE'LL HAVE A TIMED RACE BUT ALSO A
9:42:54AM DOGGY JOGGY AND DRESS TO IMPRESS RUN.
9:42:57AM THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
9:42:59AM GOING TO THE TAMPA PRIDE FOUNDATION.
9:43:01AM AND WE HAVE GIVEN OUT AND 20 SCHOLARSHIPS OF INDIVIDUALS
9:43:04AM THAT -- INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A DREAM.
9:43:09AM IT'S NOT JUST BY GPA, BUT HAVE A DREAM TO GO FURTHER AND TO
9:43:13AM GO ON TO TRADE SCHOOL, SKILLED SCHOOL, OR ON TO COLLEGE, AND
9:43:19AM INDIVIDUALS THAT FACE AND NEED THE FINANCIAL HELP.

9:43:23AM THIS IS THE GREAT WAY THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THERE AND
9:43:26AM HELPING THE COMMUNITY.
9:43:27AM LAST YEAR WE GOT CALLED UPON TO DO A TOY DRIVE BECAUSE THERE
9:43:30AM WAS AN INSTANCE WHERE A LAW FIRM BACKED OUT FOR THE
9:43:36AM EMPLOYEES, SINGLE MEMBER EMPLOYEES HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH
9:43:39AM COUNTY NEEDED HELP.
9:43:40AM AND WE RAISED AND BROUGHT IN FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED CHILDREN,
9:43:44AM WE WENT AND WE BROUGHT IN OVER 500 TOYS WITH THE COMMUNITY
9:43:50AM OF TAMPA AND YBOR CITY.
9:43:52AM AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY THINGS.
9:43:54AM BUT THE NICEST THING COMING UP THERE, THIS IS A GREAT
9:43:58AM COMMUNITY AND GREAT COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF.
9:44:01AM WE ARE SO PROUD TO HELP BRING IN, WE'RE HOPING OVER 80,000
9:44:06AM PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT TAMPA ON MARCH 23rd TO WATCH THE
9:44:10AM DIVERSITY PARADE.
9:44:11AM I KNOW THAT YOU'LL BE ALL A PART OF THAT AT THE BEGINNING
9:44:15AM AND WE'LL BE SHINING IN THE STARS UNDERNEATH THE GRACES OF
9:44:20AM WHAT EVERYBODY HAS FOR CLEAR SKY AND A GREAT COMMUNITY.
9:44:24AM AND THEN JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW, WE DO HAVE AMERICAN
9:44:29AM IDOL FINALIST GOING TO BE PERFORMING AND ALSO FROM RUTH
9:44:34AM HALL, A PERFORMER COMING IN FOR HEADLINING CONCERTS.
9:44:40AM IT IS ALREADY TOTALLY SOLD OUT.
9:44:42AM WE HAVE SOLD OUT FOR THE LAST MONTH.
9:44:44AM ON BEHALF OF THAT, I WOULD SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
9:44:47AM I'M GOING TO HAVE DEREK.

9:44:50AM DEREK IS IN CHARGE OF OUR I.T. BUT ALSO IN CHARGE OF OUR
9:44:53AM PARADES.
9:44:53AM HE IS THE ONE THAT PEOPLE CAN SHOUT OUT AND SAY I WANT TO BE
9:44:56AM IN THE PARADE, BUT, DEREK.
9:44:59AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:00AM OUR PARADE IS FULL THIS YEAR, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
9:45:04AM SEEING SOME OF YOU.
9:45:05AM AND WE HAVE A NICE VARIETY OF BANDS AND FLOATS AND WALKING
9:45:10AM GROUPS FROM ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY.
9:45:12AM SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING CELEBRATION, AND WE HOPE TO
9:45:15AM SEE EVERYONE HERE.
9:45:17AM THERE.
9:45:19AM THANKS.
9:45:21AM >> CAN WE GET A PICTURE OF ALL OF US?
9:45:23AM IF THERE'S A CHANCE.
9:45:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD IT UP.
9:45:27AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:34AM GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS.
9:45:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY
9:45:40AM ANYTHING?
9:45:40AM ANYBODY?
9:45:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: TEN YEARS IS GREAT.
9:45:45AM I REMEMBER WHEN THIS STARTED TEN YEARS AGO.
9:45:48AM OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T IN OFFICE, BUT AS TAMPE O, I REMEMBER
9:45:52AM BEING VERY, VERY PROUD.

9:45:54AM THIS IS WHAT GOOD AND DECENT COMMUNITIES DO IS ACKNOWLEDGE
9:45:57AM ALL OF OUR PEOPLE, INCLUDING OUR LGBT FAMILIES AND LOVED
9:46:02AM ONES.
9:46:02AM LIFE IS ABOUT ADDITION, NOT SUBTRACTION.
9:46:04AM MORE THAN EVER, THIS ISSUE IS SO IMPORTANT TO US.
9:46:07AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:46:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE
9:46:14AM DONE, TOO.
9:46:15AM IT'S REALLY HARD WORK, ALL THE EVENTS AND THINGS YOU PUT
9:46:18AM TOGETHER.
9:46:19AM I THINK IT'S ALL VOLUNTEER SO THANK YOU.
9:46:21AM BESIDES CREATING FUN EVENTS, YOU ALL ALSO HAVE DONE A GREAT
9:46:24AM JOB OF PROMOTING YBOR AND LGBT-OWNED BUSINESSES IN YBOR,
9:46:30AM WHICH IS A GREAT THING AND HELPING TO DEVELOP THE CHARACTER
9:46:32AM OF YBOR.
9:46:33AM BUT YOU ALSO HAVE BEEN A SYMBOL FOR THE WORLD THAT WE ARE AN
9:46:40AM INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.
9:46:42AM YOU ALL GETS LOTS OF PUBLICITY, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL
9:46:45AM AND HOPEFULLY AGAIN THIS YEAR IN A POSITIVE WAY.
9:46:49AM WITH THE MIXED MESSAGES AND NEGATIVE MESSAGES IN THE WORLD,
9:46:52AM GREAT THAT WE WILL HAVE POSITIVITY AND GREAT WEATHER IN A
9:46:56AM COUPLE OF WEEKS.
9:46:57AM THANK YOU.
9:46:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:46:58AM CONGRATULATIONS.

9:46:59AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICE,
9:47:02AM STEPPING UP, GIVING OUT SCHOLARSHIPS AS WELL AS THE TOY
9:47:04AM DRIVE.
9:47:05AM WHEN SOMEONE ELSE COULD NOT DO IT, THOSE ARE SOME WONDERFUL
9:47:08AM THINGS.
9:47:08AM I WISH YOU WELL IN YOUR BIG CELEBRATION COMING UP.
9:47:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME.
9:47:17AM A LOT OF FOLKS NEW IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T REALIZE HOW
9:47:19AM INSTRUMENTAL THE TWO OF YOU WERE IN REVITALIZATION OF YBOR
9:47:24AM AND URBAN PIONEERS IN STARTING WHAT WE SEE.
9:47:27AM RUMORS THAT MAYBE MORE BUSINESSES MOVING INTO YBOR CITY.
9:47:29AM I THINK WE CAN THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING THAT TYPE OF
9:47:33AM CATALYST.
9:47:34AM ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, ONE, THANK YOU FOR THE
9:47:36AM ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS ON THE CITY OF
9:47:39AM TAMPA.
9:47:39AM AGAIN, ON YBOR CITY.
9:47:40AM SHINING THE LIGHT THAT IT CAN BE A SAFE AND FUN PLACE TO BE
9:47:44AM FOR ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE.
9:47:47AM VERY INCLUSIVE.
9:47:48AM IT'S A WONDERFUL EVENT.
9:47:49AM YOU BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER, NOT JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:47:52AM BUT ALL OVER THE REGION, STATE.
9:47:55AM TOURISTS FLY IN FOR THIS EVENT.
9:47:58AM CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN ON HOSTING A SAFE AND INCLUSIVE EVENT

9:48:01AM AND YOU ARE A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF THE
9:48:05AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:48:05AM THANK YOU.
9:48:07AM >> VERY GOOD.
9:48:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:48:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:48:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE POINT.
9:48:13AM OUR SISTER CITY IS IN ORLANDO, AND WE WERE CALLED UPON, AND
9:48:18AM THERE ARE MEMBERS ON THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THAT HELPED US
9:48:25AM BRING TOGETHER ONE OF THE LARGEST CANDLELIGHT VIGILS FOR THE
9:48:29AM PULSE NIGHTCLUB AND THAT WAS HARD BECAUSE WE HAD MEMBERS OF
9:48:33AM TAMPA PRIDE AND ALSO THE GAYBOR DISTRICT COALITION THAT WERE
9:48:37AM MURDERED AT THE PULSE NIGHTCLUB THAT WERE MEMBERS OF OUR
9:48:40AM ORGANIZATION.
9:48:40AM IN MOVING FORWARD, THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AT
9:48:45AM THAT TIME BROUGHT TOGETHER THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND THE
9:48:50AM FIRE TRUCKS AND ALSO THE HANGING OF THE FLAGS IN THE PARKING
9:48:54AM LOT ON 7th AND ON 14th.
9:48:56AM AND OVER 7,000 PEOPLE CAME TO THAT CANDLELIGHT VIGIL, AND WE
9:49:01AM ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT ONE AIRED ON THE CITY TV THAT WAS
9:49:06AM DONE BY -- WHICH WAS A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT BY KATHY ABBOT.
9:49:13AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WILL BE RENEWED AGAIN AS THE SCENE
9:49:18AM IS ALL DONE BY DRONES.
9:49:19AM THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST AVENUES.
9:49:21AM AND THAT BECAME WORLDWIDE, AS YOU MADE MENTION, WE ARE

9:49:25AM WORLDWIDE KNOWN AND ALL THE PRIDES AROUND THE WORLD THAT
9:49:30AM TAMPA IS THE FUN PRIDE AND GO TO TAMPA AND WE WILL PROBABLY
9:49:36AM HAVE AROUND 150 WORLD LEADERS AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL LEADERS
9:49:43AM IN THE AREA BECAUSE WE ARE NOW PART, PRIDE IS PART OF THE
9:49:47AM UNITED NATIONS THIS YEAR.
9:49:49AM THANK YOU.
9:49:49AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:49:56AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL NOW PRESENT THE NEXT COMMENDATION.
9:50:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:50:18AM THIS MORNING IS A MOMENT STANDING NEXT TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
9:50:27AM FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS SERVED THE CITY OF TAMPA, DEEPEST HONOR.
9:50:35AM WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY.
9:50:37AM I'LL READ THIS THING.
9:50:38AM SOMETHING I HARDLY EVER DO, THE WHOLE THING.
9:50:40AM THIS COMMENDATION WAS NOT WRITTEN BY A CITY EMPLOYEE.
9:50:47AM IT WAS NOT IN ANY WAY DONE WITH ANY HELP OTHER THAN THE
9:50:51AM PEOPLE THAT HE WORKS WITH THEMSELVES WROTE THE COMMENDATION.
9:50:55AM THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL HE IS, WHAT TYPE OF
9:51:01AM OPERATION HE RUNS.
9:51:02AM AND WITHOUT HIM, THERE WOULDN'T BE MANY OF THE AMENITIES
9:51:06AM THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
9:51:10AM THAT ANYTHING YOU SAY COMES OUT IMMEDIATELY ON YOUR TV THAT
9:51:15AM THE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING.
9:51:16AM SO WATCH YOURSELVES THIS MORNING.

9:51:18AM PLEASURE FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT THIS
9:51:22AM COMMENDATION TO MR. DAN FOGLIA.
9:51:24AM FOR APPROXIMATELY 40 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:51:28AM AND ITS CITIZENS YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE FOREFRONT OF EVERY
9:51:31AM MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT.
9:51:34AM INSTRUCTIONAL IN THE CREATION OF THE CITY'S FIRST I-NET THAT
9:51:37AM INTERCONNECTS ALL CITY FACILITIES, SPEARHEADED, DESIGNED AND
9:51:42AM CONSTRUCTED ALL MULTIPLE TV STUDIOS TO BE USED BY THE CITY
9:51:45AM OFFICIALS AND STAFF MEMBERS.
9:51:47AM YOU DESIGN AND BUILT TWO STATE-OF-THE-ART CITY PRODUCTION
9:51:50AM REMOTE TRUCKS ENABLING THE CITY TO FORECAST -- CABLECAST, I
9:51:56AM MEAN, CONTROL ROOM MANY TIMES THE IMPROVEMENT TO ALL THAT
9:51:59AM WERE THERE BEFORE.
9:52:00AM YOU HAVE DONE THE CITY CTTV VIEWERS AND MADE IT EASIER FOR
9:52:07AM CITY STAFF AND THE PUBLIC TO MAKE PRESENTATION IN COUNCIL
9:52:11AM CHAMBERS.
9:52:11AM MANY OF TAMPA'S YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR LIVES HEARD
9:52:15AM BECAUSE OF THE INVOLVEMENT AND DESIGN OF THE TAMPA
9:52:17AM TELEVISION PRODUCTION FACILITY, THE CITY'S NFL YET CENTER.
9:52:22AM AMONG MANY ACHIEVEMENTS, OUTSIDE CONFIDENCE OF CITY HALL,
9:52:27AM INCLUDING DIRECTING AWARD WINNING SPORTS EVENTS UTILIZING
9:52:31AM REMOTE CAPABILITIES AND ENABLING MANY TAMPA NFL YET CENTER
9:52:36AM AND THOSE CLOSE TO WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH HILLSBOROUGH
9:52:39AM COUNTY PARTNERS AND HTV.
9:52:41AM WHICH IS LIVE PRODUCTION SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

9:52:46AM POINT OUT THAT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
9:52:50AM ENABLING VIRTUAL MEETINGS PARTICIPATION IN TAMPA CITY
9:52:53AM COUNCIL.
9:52:53AM THAT'S WHAT WE DO TODAY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE COVID-19
9:52:56AM PANDEMIC.
9:52:56AM TO YOUR CREDIT, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS STILL BEING UTILIZED
9:53:00AM TODAY AS PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
9:53:02AM YOUR SINCERE DEDICATION TO THE CITY AND THE VAST NUMBERS OF
9:53:07AM TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THE CITY
9:53:09AM ARE MONUMENTAL.
9:53:10AM YOUR EXPERTISE WILL SORELY BE MISSED PRESENTED THIS 7th
9:53:15AM DAY OF MARCH, 2024.
9:53:17AM PEACE AND HAPPINESS UPON YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:53:19AM YOU HAVE WORKED FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FOR FOUR MAYORS,
9:53:22AM INCLUDING SANDY FREEDMAN, DICK GRECO, PAM IORIO, BOB
9:53:26AM BUCKHORN AND JANE CASTOR.
9:53:28AM YOU HAVE SERVED APPROXIMATELY 43 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:53:32AM LET ME THANK THE THREE SPONSORS THAT WROTE THIS.
9:53:36AM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AVAILABLE.
9:53:41AM BRIAN SULLIVAN, IVAN BENSON, AND TOM DEA.
9:53:47AM AND NO ONE HAS EVER RECEIVED A COMMENDATION THAT WAS WRITTEN
9:53:53AM BY THE PEOPLE THEY WORK WITH.
9:53:55AM THIS IS A FIRST.
9:53:56AM TO ME, I SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MY FRIEND.
9:54:03AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:54:03AM MR. DAN FOGLIA.
9:54:25AM >> THANK YOU ALL.
9:54:26AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS COMMENDATION.
9:54:27AM I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU I AM THE LUCKIEST MAN, BUT I FEEL
9:54:32AM VERY LUCKY BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY.
9:54:36AM PROFESSIONALLY BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A GRATIFYING AND
9:54:38AM FULFILLING CAREER FOR ME.
9:54:40AM WHEN I CAME HERE, MY FIRST BOSS, BOB, WHO HIRED ME, TOLD ME
9:54:46AM YOU GO AHEAD AND DESIGN EVERYTHING AND GET EVERYTHING GOING
9:54:49AM AND KEEP IT GOING.
9:54:50AM AND I'VE HAD THAT MANDATE FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY THAT I
9:54:53AM WORKED HERE.
9:54:54AM AND I TRY TO DO IT UNTIL THE DAY I LEAVE.
9:54:57AM PERSONALLY, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL LIFE FOR ME.
9:55:02AM I HAVE A WONDERFUL WIFE.
9:55:03AM I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS AND GOOD SON-IN-LAWS AND FOUR
9:55:09AM TREMENDOUS GRANDCHILDREN.
9:55:13AM I BATTLED SOME PERSONAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND I HAVE OVERCOME
9:55:19AM THEM.
9:55:19AM SO EVERYTHING IS OKAY NOW.
9:55:21AM AND I FEEL VERY HAPPY AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO LEAVE
9:55:26AM THIS JOB KNOWING WHOEVER COMES ALONG WILL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW
9:55:31AM WHAT I HAVE DONE.
9:55:33AM I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.
9:55:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:55:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:55:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:55:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FOR BRINGING
9:55:48AM THIS FORWARD.
9:55:49AM I KNOW WE ALL APPRECIATE ALL OF THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
9:55:52AM SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA STRESSED, IT WAS WRITTEN
9:55:54AM BY YOUR COLLEAGUES, THAT'S REALLY GREAT.
9:55:56AM WE'RE JUST VERY, VERY THANKFUL.
9:55:58AM JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
9:56:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:56:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, APPRECIATE THE WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE
9:56:11AM AND THE ADAPTABILITY OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM OVER THE LAST FEW
9:56:14AM YEARS, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID AND HOW YOU ALL WORKED SO
9:56:17AM HARD.
9:56:17AM THAT WAS A MIRACLE WHAT YOU ALL PULLED OFF.
9:56:20AM BESIDES HELPING US, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING, YOU ARE
9:56:23AM HELPING OUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE WORLD EXPERIENCE DEMOCRACY.
9:56:28AM AND WE'RE ON THE FRONT LINE EVERY WEEK, AND THAT'S BECAUSE
9:56:31AM OF YOU ALL.
9:56:32AM WE GET CROWDS IN THE ROOM, BUT THE CROWDS OUTSIDE ARE MUCH
9:56:35AM LARGER AND PEOPLE ALL THE TIME SAY THEY WATCH AND THEY
9:56:39AM APPRECIATE HAVING THAT.
9:56:40AM WHAT YOU ALL DO IS INVALUABLE TO THE DEMOCRACY OF OUR
9:56:42AM COMMUNITY.
9:56:43AM THANK YOU.

9:56:43AM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL REPLACE ALL OF YOU ALL WHEN EVERYBODY
9:56:46AM ELSE RETIRES.
9:56:48AM THANK YOU.
9:56:49AM >> THANK YOU.
9:56:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:56:50AM I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:56:51AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND
9:56:54AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
9:56:55AM WORKING WITH LISA AND COORDINATING.
9:56:57AM IT'S NOT EASY, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
9:57:00AM CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY RETIREMENT, SIR.
9:57:02AM >> THANK YOU.
9:57:02AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:57:09AM >> THANK YOU.
9:57:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:10AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:57:12AM MR. SHELBY, YES.
9:57:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:57:16AM SINCE WE CAN'T SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S COME TO MY
9:57:20AM ATTENTION I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN PUBLIC
9:57:25AM COMMENT COLONEL ANDERSON WHO IS THE SISTER OF MY GOOD
9:57:28AM FRIEND, MS. DEE, WHO IS HERE, A WONDERFUL ATTORNEY.
9:57:33AM WE CAN'T SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I JUST WANTED TO
9:57:36AM RECOGNIZE YOU AND KNOW THAT IF YOU COME SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
9:57:39AM COMMENT FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY

9:57:41AM CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.
9:57:42AM BUT I WILL MOTION AFTER COUNCIL FOR SOMETHING SEPARATE TO
9:57:45AM GIVE YOU A COMMENDATION FOR YOUR AMAZING SERVICE TO OUR
9:57:47AM COUNTRY.
9:57:48AM BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN'T SPEAK.
9:57:50AM I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE WERE -- YEAH, THANK YOU.
9:57:52AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:57:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:53AM MR. SHELBY.
9:57:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:57:56AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:57:57AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:57:59AM WE'RE COMING UPON PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:58:02AM IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, TO BE ABLE TO
9:58:04AM SHARE WITH CITY COUNCIL ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, YOUR
9:58:09AM THOUGHTS, YOUR OPINIONS ON ITEMS RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS.
9:58:13AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:58:17AM PUBLIC COMMENT AND ALSO THAT COUNCIL IS REQUESTING THAT YOU
9:58:22AM REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ANY CITY OFFICIAL,
9:58:28AM STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AND YOU COMPORT
9:58:33AM YOURSELF AND NOT ENGAGE IN DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
9:58:35AM COUNCIL RULES DO PROVIDE THAT PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH
9:58:40AM THE COUNCIL RULES COULD BE BY THE CHAIR RULED OUT OF ORDER.
9:58:44AM AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE
9:58:47AM CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY'S MEETING.

9:58:49AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS SET FOR A PUBLIC
9:58:52AM HEARING, OTHER THAN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WILL HAVE
9:58:55AM THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD LATER ON THE AGENDA.
9:58:58AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS ON THE STAFF REPORTS IS NOW.
9:59:10AM PLEASE KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER
9:59:12AM VIERA HAS STATED, ARE PREVENTED BY THE RULES BY ENGAGING A
9:59:17AM SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:59:19AM AND THE PUBLIC, PLEASE DO BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
9:59:22AM CANNOT TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU
9:59:25AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:59:26AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:59:29AM THANK YOU.
9:59:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:30AM WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL GO TO
9:59:33AM THE IN-PERSON.
9:59:34AM THE FIRST IS MR. FRANKLIN PEREZ.
9:59:36AM MR. PEREZ, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
9:59:38AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOLLOWED BY MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:59:48AM >> HI.
9:59:48AM THIS IS FRANKLIN PEREZ, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:59:50AM GREAT.
9:59:51AM THANK YOU.
9:59:51AM >> MY NAME IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
9:59:53AM I LIVE IN SEMINOLE AND
9:59:54AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES.

9:59:56AM PLEASE RESCIND ALL PRO-ISRAEL
9:59:57AM RESOLUTIONS YOU HAVE MADE IN THE
9:59:58AM PAST.
10:00:00AM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
10:00:01AM ISRAEL IS A JEWISH SUPREMACIST
10:00:02AM APARTHEID STATE THAT HAS BEEN
10:00:03AM COMMITTING ETHNIC CLEANSING AND
10:00:05AM HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AGAINST
10:00:06AM PALESTINIANS FOR 75-PLUS YEARS,
10:00:06AM AS PER REPUTABLE HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE AMNESTY
10:00:12AM INTERNATIONAL, HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH, AND B'TSELEM.
10:00:16AM AND NOW YOU CAN ADD GENOCIDE AS
10:00:17AM ISRAEL IS ON TRIAL AT THE HAGUE
10:00:18AM FOR GENOCIDE AGAINST
10:00:19AM PALESTINIANS.
10:00:20AM STOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL.
10:00:22AM STOP GIVING IT WEAPONS.
10:00:23AM STOP GIVING IT MONEY AND CONDEMN
10:00:26AM IT FOR WHAT IT IS -- AN
10:00:27AM APARTHEID AND GENOCIDAL STATE.
10:00:28AM MANY HUMAN RIGHTS EXPERTS REFER
10:00:30AM TO GAZA AS AN OPEN AIR
10:00:30AM CONCENTRATION CAMP.
10:00:32AM THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME
10:00:34AM PRIME MINISTER, BENJAMIN

10:00:35AM NETANYAHU, HAS INVOKED GENOCIDAL
10:00:37AM LANGUAGE AGAINST PALESTINIANS IN
10:00:39AM THE GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP BY
10:00:41AM REFERRING TO AN ANCIENT BIBLICAL
10:00:42AM PASSAGE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
10:00:44AM COMPARING PALESTINIANS TO THE
10:00:45AM AMALEKITES THAT MUST ALL BE PUT
10:00:47AM TO DEATH -- MEN, WOMEN,
10:00:48AM CHILDREN, BABIES.
10:00:49AM THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME
10:00:52AM DEFENSE MINISTER, YOAV GALLANT,
10:00:54AM HAS DEHUMANIZED PALESTINIANS BY
10:00:55AM REFERRING TO PALESTINIANS IN THE
10:00:57AM GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP AS HUMAN
10:00:58AM ANIMALS.
10:01:00AM MIKO PELED, ISRAELI JEW, SON OF
10:01:02AM A FAMOUS ISRAELI JEW GENERAL,
10:01:04AM EX-ZIONIST OCCUPATION ENFORCER
10:01:06AM AND PALESTINIAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST
10:01:09AM HAS STATED THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY
10:01:10AM IS THE BEST TERRORIST GROUP IN
10:01:11AM THE WORLD.
10:01:13AM EX-ISRAELI JEW ZIONIST
10:01:14AM OCCUPATION FORCES PILOT, YONATAN
10:01:16AM SHAPIRA, HAS STATED THAT THE

10:01:18AM ISRAELI ARMY IS A TERRORIST
10:01:20AM ORGANIZATION RUN BY WAR
10:01:20AM CRIMINALS.
10:01:24AM AT THIS POINT, SCATTERED ZIONIST
10:01:25AM ONLY OCCUPIER SETTLEMENTS IN THE
10:01:26AM WEST BANK, THE ONLY FAIR
10:01:27AM SOLUTION TO THE ISRAEL PALESTINE
10:01:29AM CONFLICT IS A ONE-STAGE SOLUTION
10:01:30AM WHERE EVERYONE, JEW AND
10:01:32AM PALESTINIAN, HAS EQUAL RIGHTS.
10:01:34AM THAT'S WHY IT IS REFERRED TO AS
10:01:35AM A FREE PALESTINE FROM THE JORDAN
10:01:37AM RIVER TO THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.
10:01:39AM ALL U.S. GOVERNMENT ENTITIES
10:01:40AM SHOULD BE PRESSURING THE ISRAELI
10:01:41AM APARTHEID REGIME TO MOVE TOWARD
10:01:44AM SUCH A FREE PALESTINE THAT
10:01:45AM INCLUDES THE DISMANTLING OF THE
10:01:46AM GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP.
10:01:48AM THE REFRAIN THAT ISRAEL HAS THE
10:01:49AM RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE IS A RED
10:01:50AM HERRING.
10:01:51AM THE REAL QUESTION IS, DOES
10:01:52AM ISRAEL HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE
10:01:53AM FORCE TO MAINTAIN AN ILLEGAL

10:01:55AM OCCUPATION IN APARTHEID STATE
10:01:56AM THAT COMMITS ETHNIC CLEANSING,
10:01:58AM GENOCIDE, AND HUMAN RIGHTS
10:01:59AM ABUSES AGAINST PALESTINIANS?
10:02:01AM THE CLEAR ANSWER IS NO.
10:02:03AM UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, ISRAEL
10:02:04AM HAS NO RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE
10:02:06AM WHEN IT IS THE OPPRESSOR AND
10:02:09AM OCCUPIER WHILE PALESTINIANS DO
10:02:10AM HAVE THE RIGHT TO PHYSICALLY
10:02:11AM RESIST AND DEFEND THEMSELVES
10:02:13AM AGAINST THEIR OPPRESSOR AND
10:02:14AM OCCUPIER, THE ISRAELI APARTHEID
10:02:15AM REGIME.
10:02:17AM OUR TAX DOLLARS SHOULD BE GOING
10:02:18AM BACK TO OUR OWN COMMUNITY, NOT
10:02:20AM TO SUPPORT UNRELENTING BOMBING
10:02:21AM AND GENOCIDE IN GAZA.
10:02:23AM NO MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL'S
10:02:24AM CRIMES.
10:02:25AM I REQUEST THAT THE TAMPA CITY
10:02:27AM COUNCIL INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION
10:02:28AM TO STAND WITH PALESTINIANS IN
10:02:30AM DEMANDING AN END TO THE SIEGE OF
10:02:31AM GAZA, A PERMANENT CEASE-FIRE,

10:02:33AM AND AN END TO ALL U.S. AID TO
10:02:34AM ISRAEL -- MILITARY, ECONOMIC,
10:02:36AM POLITICAL.
10:02:37AM CEASE FIRE NOW, CEASE FIRE NOW,
10:02:38AM CEASE FIRE NOW.
10:02:39AM THANK YOU.
10:02:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:02:44AM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:02:47AM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:02:48AM GOOD MORNING.
10:02:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:49AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:02:52AM I WANT TO FIRST START OFF ON THE EAST SIDE, THE WEST TAMPA
10:02:56AM COMMUNITY DOES SUPPORT THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT IN GENERAL AND
10:03:02AM SPECIFICALLY WE SUPPORT THE RETAINING THE NAME OF FAIR OAKS
10:03:07AM AS IT REPRESENTS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
10:03:10AM I WANT TO JUMP BACK ON THE WEST SIDE.
10:03:14AM I DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THE CAC,
10:03:18AM SPECIFICALLY JOE ROBINSON, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE
10:03:25AM DEAL WITH JUST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
10:03:26AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:03:31AM I WANT TO GIVE RECOGNITION TO THE OLD WEST TAMPA
10:03:36AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
10:03:39AM ASSOCIATION AND THE RIVERFRONT ASSOCIATION.
10:03:44AM 2020, THE WEST TAMPA CDC WAS PART OF THE ROME YARD DAY OF

10:03:49AM DISCUSSION.
10:03:50AM DURING THAT DAY, EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF THE K TO 9
10:03:56AM STRATEGY, EVEN BEFORE JUST ELEMENTARY WAS CLOSED.
10:03:59AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE WEST TAMPA PARTNERED WITH THE TAMPA
10:04:04AM HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE RELATED GROUP HAS CREATED MORE
10:04:08AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TAMPA THAN ANY OTHER GROUP.
10:04:11AM AS PART OF THE K TO 9 DEAL, THE WEST TAMPA CDC IS REACHING
10:04:17AM OUT TO THE SCHOOL TO PROVIDE AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS TO THE
10:04:22AM KIDS, INCLUDING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ALONG WITH
10:04:30AM ENTREPRENEURSHIP FROM THOSE KIDS GRADES 10 AND UP.
10:04:35AM THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN --
10:04:42AM JOE ROBINSON PUT IT I THINK CLEARLY.
10:04:46AM WHEN YOU COME TO WEST TAMPA, YOU HAVE TO CHECK IN AS ANY OF
10:04:51AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
10:04:51AM I'M SAYING -- THIS IS NOT THE COMMUNITY SAYING THIS, BUT
10:04:58AM RESPECT WHEN IT COMES TO WEST TAMPA.
10:05:02AM I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY
10:05:05AM BECAUSE THIS TIME IT IS A WIN-WIN FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:05:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:05:11AM THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
10:05:13AM WE'LL GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
10:05:15AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:05:18AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:05:19AM YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.

10:05:24AM >> MY NAME IS JAMAL SCOTT.
10:05:29AM I ADDRESSED YOU MANY TIMES OF THE ISSUES IN THE CITY.
10:05:36AM MARCHMAN ACT.
10:05:37AM NOW YOU DID IT AGAIN.
10:05:39AM JUST RECENTLY I WAS BAKER ACTED FROM MY OWN RESIDENCE ON
10:05:42AM LIVE Facebook.
10:05:43AM SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, TRY TO WHITE
10:05:47AM WASH IT OR ERASE IT.
10:05:48AM TIME FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IN THIS CITY.
10:05:50AM I GOT A CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT JUST DENIED ABOUT THAT
10:05:53AM SITUATION.
10:05:54AM I TEXT THAT MAN RIGHT THERE THAT'S OUT, MR. LUIS, THAT'S NOT
10:06:02AM PRESENT RIGHT NOW.
10:06:03AM I GUESS HE'S DUCKING AND HIDING RIGHT NOW.
10:06:06AM CALL CASTOR ON LIVE Facebook.
10:06:08AM MY PAGE IS PUBLIC.
10:06:11AM JAMAL SCOTT, LOOK ME UP.
10:06:13AM ALL THE ISSUES GOING ON IN THE CITY, LIVE Facebook.
10:06:15AM TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:06:16AM YOU CALL YOURSELF ADULTS.
10:06:18AM ADULTS ADD TO LIFE, NOT TAKE AWAY.
10:06:21AM I'LL GIVE YOU THESE CITY COMPLAINTS, CITATION NUMBERS.
10:06:25AM YOU MIGHT NEED TO GO REVIEW THESE.
10:06:27AM THE LAST ONE JUST DENIED I GOT A CONFIRMATION OF 1251.
10:06:32AM I GOT ONE RIGHT NOW, I DIDN'T RECEIVE A DENIAL LETTER.

10:06:35AM I GOT A CALL.
10:06:36AM I GOT ANOTHER ONE FOR 1283.
10:06:40AM THIS IS REGARDING SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ON THE BUS.
10:06:43AM THEY SENT ME A LETTER SAYING YEAH WE SHUT YOUR ARM IN THE
10:06:48AM DOOR BUT NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
10:06:50AM WHY IS THAT?
10:06:51AM WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS
10:06:54AM SCREAMING OUT ON LIVE Facebook TRYING TO GET RESOLUTION
10:06:58AM ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING TO THEM.
10:06:59AM STAYING IN AN APARTMENT SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS BREATHING
10:07:03AM FIBERGLASS.
10:07:03AM NOW THEY TRY TO EVICT ME AND TAKE ME OFF SECTION 8.
10:07:08AM THE NAME OF THE SHIRT, HE'S NOT SPEAKING TO YOU AGAIN.
10:07:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:07:14AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:07:17AM >> MARK.
10:07:18AM 409 WEST PARIS STREET.
10:07:20AM I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE INHERENT CHALLENGES
10:07:25AM OF UNWRITTEN POLICIES.
10:07:26AM UNWRITTEN POLICIES IMPLY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE. THEY ARE
10:07:32AM UNPREDICTABLE, INTRODUCE INCONSISTENCY.
10:07:35AM RANDOM APPLICATION UNDERMINES THE STANDARDS WHICH WE GOVERN
10:07:39AM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:07:41AM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:07:43AM ON THE BOTTOM, THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF SPECIAL PRIVILEGE

10:07:46AM WHERE A DEVELOPER IS GIVING INSIGHT INTO HOW AN UNWRITTEN
10:07:50AM POLICY CAN BE APPLIED TO THE APPLICATION.
10:07:52AM OVERTURNED HERE ON FEBRUARY 1st.
10:07:56AM NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF UNWRITTEN POLICIES.
10:07:58AM PERMANENT AND IRREVERSIBLE.
10:08:00AM APPLICATION OF UNWRITTEN POLICY IS NOT KNOWN UNTIL THE TIME
10:08:03AM THE STRUCTURE IS PERMANENT, LACKS TRANSPARENCY AND
10:08:06AM PREDICTABILITY, APPLIED THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
10:08:09AM OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC VIEW.
10:08:10AM NOT ALIGNED WITH ZONING.
10:08:12AM IT IS IN SHARP CONTRAST TO IT.
10:08:14AM ZONING DISTRICTS APPLYING RS-50 THROUGH AN UNWRITTEN POLICY
10:08:19AM STANDARDS SH-RS WOULD RENDER SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING
10:08:23AM DESIGNATION NO LONGER RELEVANT AND THEREFORE CALL INTO
10:08:26AM QUESTION, THE REASON IF THE DISTRICTS EXIST, ZONING
10:08:29AM ADMINISTRATOR RENDERS THEM USELESS THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE
10:08:31AM ACTIONS.
10:08:35AM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION'S CHALLENGES WITH WRITTEN POLICIES,
10:08:39AM 2021 AUDIT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:08:42AM STATEMENT OF CONDITIONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DIVISION
10:08:44AM DOES NOT HAVE WRITTEN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR DAILY
10:08:48AM OPERATIONS.
10:08:49AM THE EFFECT, POTENTIAL INCONSISTENCIES IN DECISIONS MAKE THE
10:08:52AM WAY FOR PROCESSES ARE CARRIED OUT AND ALSO LOSS OF
10:08:55AM OPERATIONAL KNOWLEDGE IN THE EVENT OF TURNOVER OR

10:08:57AM RETIREMENT.
10:08:57AM THE ACTION WAS FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT ALL NEW POLICIES AND
10:09:01AM PROCEDURES BY SEPTEMBER 2023.
10:09:04AM THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE EIGHT MONTHS LATER.
10:09:07AM ON MY STREET TWICE NOW UNWRITTEN POLICIES HAVE BEEN APPLIED
10:09:10AM TO APPLICATIONS.
10:09:13AM BECAUSE INCONSISTENCIES IN APPLICATION, CITIZENS DO NOT
10:09:17AM ALWAYS HAVE THE STRUCTURE FOR WHICH THEY CAN RELY.
10:09:19AM AT A MINIMUM, CITIZENS SHOULD BE AFFORDED CONSISTENCY AND
10:09:21AM TRANSPARENCY AND THEY ARE ESSENTIAL IN A PROCESS THAT
10:09:23AM ENFORCES ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:09:25AM BECAUSE CITIZENS CANNOT CONTROL THE INABILITY OF A DEVELOPER
10:09:29AM TO MITIGATE THE RISK, THE INABILITY FOR THE CITY TO
10:09:33AM IMPLEMENT CONTROLS CODIFIED IN WRITTEN POLICIES FOR WHICH
10:09:37AM THEY CAN RELY AND ALSO CANNOT CONTROL THE ABILITY FOR THE
10:09:39AM CITY TO APPLY UNWRITTEN POLICIES TO BUILDING APPLICATIONS ON
10:09:44AM THEIR STREET.
10:09:44AM HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.
10:09:49AM ADVANCE MEETING TO UNDERSTAND THE BUILD-TO LINE FOR 412 WEST
10:09:53AM PARIS TO BE ESTABLISHED.
10:09:54AM MET WITH ERIC COTTON AND ABBYE FEELEY AND THEY COMMUNICATED
10:09:57AM THE INTENT THEY WOULD APPROVE THIS APPLICATION BY APPLYING
10:10:00AM AN UNWRITTEN POLICY YET AGAIN.
10:10:03AM MY ASK IS -- SINCE WE DO HAVE THE ADVANCE KNOWLEDGE, ASK
10:10:10AM CITY COUNCIL TO PULL THE BUILDING APPLICATION ON 412 PARIS

10:10:15AM STREET INTO A MORE INCLUSIVE PROCESS.
10:10:17AM SUPPORT THE BUILD-TO LINE AND APPLY TO A -- ENFORCE
10:10:25AM ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ZONING ADMINISTRATION.
10:10:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
10:10:28AM YES, MA'AM.
10:10:28AM GOOD MORNING.
10:10:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:10:34AM MY NAME IS CARRIE HURST.
10:10:37AM I AM A LIFELONG MEMBER OF EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
10:10:42AM AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE FAIR OAKS RECREATIONAL
10:10:47AM COMPLEX WHICH I AM A PART OF A SENIOR GROUP THAT'S MEETING
10:10:51AM AT ONE OF THE RECREATIONAL CENTERS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:10:55AM AND WE HAVE MUCH ANTICIPATING, MUCH WAITING FOR THE ADVENT
10:11:00AM OF OUR NEW DEDICATED SENIOR CENTER WHICH WILL BE A PART OF
10:11:03AM THAT COMPLEX.
10:11:04AM I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MOVING THIS FORWARD SO
10:11:08AM THAT WE CAN REALIZE OUR DREAM OF HAVING A DEDICATED PLACE
10:11:12AM AMONG OTHER SENIORS WHO ARE MEETING AT ALL THE RECREATIONAL
10:11:15AM CENTERS IN EAST TAMPA THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND HAVE A
10:11:19AM DEDICATED HOME.
10:11:21AM BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE MEETING NOW AT THE RAGAN PARK, THAT IS
10:11:24AM A COMMUNITY CENTER, AND WE ARE SOMETIMES DISPLACED BY
10:11:28AM WHATEVER IS TAKING PLACE AS A RENTAL FACILITY THERE.
10:11:33AM SO WE ARE MUCH ANTICIPATING HAVING A PLACE TO CALL OUR HOME.
10:11:36AM SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MOVING THIS PROJECT

10:11:40AM FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN REALIZE IT.
10:11:44AM THANK YOU.
10:11:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:11:45AM YES, MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER.
10:11:47AM GOOD MORNING.
10:11:48AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:11:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:11:51AM EAST TAMPA.
10:11:53AM I COME HERE WITH MY OVER 55 LIST AND ORIGINAL SUPPORTER OF
10:12:00AM THE FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER IN EAST TAMPA.
10:12:03AM OUR OLDEST MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY OVER AT FAIR OAKS IS 86.
10:12:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
10:12:09AM >> VERLEAN DRAYTON.
10:12:13AM WE COME IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE 10.2 ACRES FOR EAST TAMPA
10:12:17AM RECREATION COMPLEX.
10:12:19AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT.
10:12:21AM THEY WILL COME.
10:12:22AM THE YOUNG, THE OLD, THE DISABLED, THE CHILDREN, WE ALL GOING
10:12:26AM TO COME.
10:12:27AM WE WILL FIND US A PLACE, WHETHER IT BE THE SENIORS, WHETHER
10:12:30AM IT BE THE CHILDREN, WHETHER IT BE THE ELDERLY, THAT CENTER
10:12:34AM IS 10.2 ACRES.
10:12:36AM NOW, WE HAVE REPARATION HERE TODAY.
10:12:39AM WE GOT, ALSO WE HAVE OUR RESOLUTION FOR 568.
10:12:46AM YEAH, 568.

10:12:47AM COME ON, LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN IN EAST TAMPA.
10:12:50AM WE NEED THIS.
10:12:51AM WE NEED IT NOW.
10:12:52AM IT'S WAY OVERDUE.
10:12:54AM LET'S GET THIS HERE IN TAMPA.
10:12:57AM THEY GOT THE NEW FUN-LAN COMPLEX BUILT OVER THERE, 354
10:13:03AM UNITS.
10:13:04AM LET US KNOW, SOMEBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO EAST TAMPA, SO
10:13:07AM LET'S CONTINUE THE GOOD VIBES THAT WE ARE STARTING HERE.
10:13:10AM OKAY.
10:13:11AM THIS WOULD BE THE NEXT PROJECT HERE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:13:13AM ALSO, I KNOW DOWN AT FAIR OAKS ON APRIL 5, WE WILL BE HAVING
10:13:18AM A FISH FRIDAY 11 TO 1:30.
10:13:21AM WE WELCOME YOU ALL.
10:13:24AM LET'S GET THIS PROJECT DONE.
10:13:27AM AND WE ARE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT.
10:13:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
10:13:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:13:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:32AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:13:33AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:13:36AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:13:39AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:13:42AM SAY UHURU BECAUSE UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:13:48AM MENTESNOT MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

10:13:50AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
10:13:54AM FREEDOM.
10:13:56AM WHY IS THAT?
10:13:56AM BECAUSE OUR RELATIONSHIP TO COLONIALISM, OUR RELATIONSHIP TO
10:14:02AM COMMONWEALTH, OUR RELATIONSHIP TO WHITE WESTERN CIVILIZATION
10:14:06AM AND WHITE MANIFEST DESTINY, 624 YEARS OF SLAVERY.
10:14:16AM SLAVERY IS WORSE TODAY THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN IN ANY PERIOD
10:14:20AM OF HISTORY FOR THE AFRICAN.
10:14:25AM IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT'S HERE
10:14:29AM BECAUSE THE REALITY, AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED.
10:14:32AM THEY ARE SCARED OF THE POLICE.
10:14:35AM WE ARE SCARED TO WALK IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
10:14:37AM WE ARE SCARED TO BE IN OUR HOMES.
10:14:39AM BREONNA TAYLOR GOOD EXAMPLE.
10:14:42AM THAT'S HOW AFRICAN PEOPLE LIVE FROM DAY TO DAY.
10:14:46AM AND WE'RE ALWAYS INSULTED AND HUMILIATED WITH ALL FORMS OF
10:14:51AM INDIGNATIONS.
10:14:54AM PART OF THE HISTORY SAY WE WERE BROUGHT HERE SLAVES.
10:15:00AM THAT'S NOT THE TRUE HISTORY, BUT IF THAT IS THE NARRATIVE
10:15:04AM THEY WANT TO GO WITH, WE CAN GO WITH THE 1619 NARRATIVE.
10:15:08AM IT'S ALWAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN BOUGHT AND SOLD, CHAINED AND
10:15:12AM ABUSED, ALWAYS.
10:15:15AM AND WE SEE THE ABUSE AND THE INDIGNATIONS CONTINUES WITH
10:15:22AM LAURA INGRAHAM SAYING TO THE WORLD'S GREATEST ATHLETE,
10:15:27AM LEBRON JAMES, THE WORLD'S GREATEST ATHLETE IN THE HISTORY OF

10:15:30AM THE WORLD, LEBRON JAMES, TO SHUT UP AND DRIBBLE.
10:15:37AM AND WE SEE ANOTHER WHITE MAN, JOHN OLIVER, OFFER SUPREME
10:15:41AM COURT JUSTICE THOMAS SCOTT A MILLION DOLLARS TO RESIGN AND
10:15:45AM SAY HE WOULD GIVE HIM A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BECAUSE THEY
10:15:47AM PUT A PRICE ON AFRICANS.
10:15:50AM THEY PUT A PRICE ON AFRICANS.
10:15:56AM WE SEE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:16:00AM IT'S A GRAVE INJUSTICE.
10:16:02AM THIS CITY DON'T PUT ANY PRICE.
10:16:05AM THEY DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY IN THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
10:16:08AM IF YOU RIDE UP 34th STREET AND SEE FAIR OAKS AND SEE THAT
10:16:12AM AREA FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE, IT'S NOTHING NOW.
10:16:15AM THE WHOLE AREA IS DEAD.
10:16:16AM THE ROUND ABOUT THAT THEY PUT TO DETER TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT
10:16:20AM IS GONE.
10:16:22AM THIS CITY HAVE TO RESPECT THE AFRICANS.
10:16:25AM THEY HAVE TO RESPECT OUR REPARATIONS.
10:16:27AM WE'RE OWED IT.
10:16:29AM AND THAT'S THE RESPECT WE'RE DESERVING.
10:16:31AM WE DON'T DESERVE THESE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING THAT'S
10:16:34AM JUST INDIGNATIONS.
10:16:35AM THAT HAVE TO STOP.
10:16:36AM WE NEED OUR REPARATIONS AND WE NEED THAT TO BE PAID IN FULL.
10:16:42AM THANK YOU.
10:16:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:16:45AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:16:45AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:16:47AM GOOD MORNING.
10:16:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:16:51AM JOHNNY JOHNSON.
10:16:53AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT, GENERATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:16:57AM I'VE BEEN HERE TO SEE ALL THE GROWTH AND THE REDEVELOPMENT
10:17:00AM OF OUR CITY WHICH IS WELL NEEDED AND LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
10:17:04AM BUT TO CONTINUE TO ERASE OUR HISTORY OF OUR PEOPLE AND THE
10:17:08AM LANDMARKS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
10:17:10AM I COME DOWN HERE.
10:17:12AM I TRULY SUPPORT THE REBUILD OF FAIR OAKS.
10:17:15AM AS A YOUNG KID, I PLAYED FOOTBALL AND THE TEAM THAT WAS
10:17:19AM THERE AT THAT SPECIFIC TIME WERE THE BANDITS.
10:17:22AM ALSO HAD BIG BANDITS PLAY AT THE STADIUM.
10:17:25AM TODAY, THE WILD CATS PLAY THERE.
10:17:29AM BUT TO ERASE A NAME, I WANT TO GET YOU THE DEFINITION FROM
10:17:34AM THE WEBSTER DICTIONARY OF NAMES.
10:17:39AM A WORD OR PHRASE THAT CONSTITUTES THE DISTINCTION
10:17:43AM DESIGNATION OF A PERSON OR THING.
10:17:45AM FAIR OAKS IS ITS NAME.
10:17:47AM I COME HERE TO TELL YOU DO NOT CONTINUE TO ERASE OUR
10:17:52AM HISTORY.
10:17:52AM THAT IS A DISTINCTFUL PLACE.
10:17:55AM BEAUTIFUL.

10:17:57AM WE HAVE REBUILT A LOT OF THINGS AND RETAINED ITS NAMES.
10:18:01AM I DO NOT ACCEPT EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX.
10:18:04AM THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY OF TAKING OUR HISTORY AWAY.
10:18:08AM I GREW UP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET DOWNTOWN IN CENTRAL PARK.
10:18:11AM I HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW MY KIDS ANYTHING THAT I EXPERIENCE AS
10:18:15AM A YOUNG KID, EVERYTHING HAS TOTALLY BEEN ERASED.
10:18:19AM KEEP FAIR OAKS NAME FAIR OAKS.
10:18:26AM REBUILD THE COMPLEX.
10:18:29AM AGAIN, I'M DOWN HERE IN SUPPORT OF REBUILDING FAIR OAKS TO
10:18:33AM MAKE IT MODERN AND ACCEPTABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY JUST LIKE
10:18:38AM EVERY PART OF CITY OF TAMPA.
10:18:40AM IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE HAD AN UPGRADE, BUT DURING THE
10:18:44AM UPGRADE WE DO NOT HAVE TO DESTROY THE HISTORY THAT'S
10:18:47AM ASSOCIATED WITH FAIR OAKS.
10:18:50AM I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE AS ONE OF THE ONES INITIALLY
10:18:55AM PETITION AND ADVOCATED TO REBUILD AND NOT TO UPGRADE.
10:18:59AM JUST TEAR IT DOWN AND REBUILD IT.
10:19:02AM OUR KIDS DESERVE THIS HERE.
10:19:04AM IT'S SO MUCH HISTORY IN FAIR OAKS.
10:19:06AM IT'S NONE IN EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL CENTER.
10:19:09AM IT'S NOTHING IN THAT.
10:19:11AM SO MUCH, I SEE YOU GIVE COMMENDATIONS AND TALK ABOUT RICH
10:19:16AM HISTORY.
10:19:16AM I ALSO LOOK IN THIS HERE OUTLINE ABOUT HISTORIC, THAT IS
10:19:22AM HISTORIC TO THE PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN HERE.

10:19:23AM WE ARE NOT IMPLANTS.
10:19:27AM WE'VE BEEN HERE OUR ENTIRE LIFE.
10:19:29AM LEAVE FAIR OAKS NAME AS FAIR OAKS.
10:19:32AM I CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW MY KIDS SOMEPLACE WHERE I
10:19:35AM PLAYED AT, AND IT STILL RETAINS THE NAME.
10:19:43AM FAIR OAKS, I KNOW WHERE THAT IS AT.
10:19:45AM EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT
10:19:48AM IS.
10:19:49AM THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
10:19:49AM I APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS.
10:19:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:52AM NEXT SPEAKER, YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:19:53AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:55AM >> MY NAME IS COLONEL RETIRED DENISE J. ANDERSON.
10:20:00AM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, GOOD
10:20:02AM MORNING.
10:20:02AM THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY.
10:20:07AM IN THE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, I STAND TO REPRESENT THE
10:20:10AM 168,000 WOMEN VETERANS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:20:15AM AS A NOTE OF THIS 168,000, 42,000 ARE WOMEN OVER THE AGE OF
10:20:21AM 65, WHICH IS MY DEMOGRAPHIC.
10:20:24AM IF THERE ARE OTHER WOMEN VETERANS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, OR
10:20:29AM IF YOU KNOW A WOMAN VETERAN, PLEASE TRUST ME TO REPRESENT
10:20:32AM AND STAND WITH ME AT THIS TIME.
10:20:34AM I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE BRIGADIER RETIRED GENERAL CARRIE

10:20:38AM NIRO WHO IS WITH US AND AS A PART OF THE VETERANS,
10:20:42AM COUNSELING VETERANS ORGANIZATION.
10:20:43AM I WILL NOT TAKE MUCH TIME TODAY AS OUR INTEREST AND CONCERNS
10:20:49AM ARE NUMEROUS.
10:20:50AM MILITARY SEXUAL ASSAULT TRAUMA, MENTAL HEALTH, HOMELESS
10:20:55AM WOMEN VETERANS AND THEIR CHILDREN AND EMPLOYMENT
10:20:58AM OPPORTUNITIES AND THERE ARE OTHERS.
10:20:59AM I WILL GIVE YOU A BRIEF TESTIMONY, AND THAT IS THAT WOMEN
10:21:02AM RARELY TALK ABOUT THEIR SERVICE BECAUSE IN MOST CASES, WE
10:21:06AM ARE NEITHER SEEN, HEARD, OR RECOGNIZED OR BELIEVED.
10:21:10AM RETIRED IN 2006 WITH 27 YEARS OF ACTIVE FEDERAL SERVICE, I
10:21:16AM CAME TO TAMPA.
10:21:18AM I STAYED HERE FOR TWO YEARS.
10:21:19AM I COULD NOT GET A JOB.
10:21:20AM AS YOU SEE ME STAND HERE AND REPRESENT, YOU HAVE NOT SEEN MY
10:21:24AM RESUM OR MY CURRICULUM VITAE BUT YOU SEE ME AS I STAND
10:21:30AM HERE.
10:21:30AM CLEARLY I SERVE THE COUNTRY YET I COULD NOT GET A JOB.
10:21:33AM I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MORE IN-DEPTH
10:21:36AM AT ANOTHER TIME ON THESE CONCERNS, BUT TODAY I THANK YOU FOR
10:21:40AM HEARING US, FOR SEEING US, AND FOR ACKNOWLEDGING US AND FOR
10:21:46AM SERVING US, TOO, AS YOU CONTINUE TO SERVE THE GREAT CITIZENS
10:21:49AM WITH THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING IN THIS COUNCIL.
10:21:52AM THANK YOU.
10:21:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

10:21:54AM YES, MA'AM.
10:21:56AM GOOD MORNING.
10:21:56AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:22:00AM >> HI.
10:22:01AM VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL.
10:22:04AM I COME TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 52 ON THE AGENDA, THE
10:22:09AM REAPPOINTMENT OF THE DANIEL ROSS MYERS BY THE MAYOR.
10:22:13AM MY MAIN CONCERN, SOLE SOURCE, WAS THERE A COMMITTEE THAT
10:22:19AM CAME FORWARD THAT HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS SO STELLAR, IS
10:22:23AM THERE NO MORE ARCHITECTS AROUND.
10:22:27AM WHY DO WE KEEP HAVING TO REAPPOINT HIM?
10:22:30AM IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAYOR, BASED ON HER EXPERIENCE AND
10:22:37AM HOW SHE RUN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT AND SHE
10:22:42AM LACKS INTEGRITY.
10:22:43AM SO ANYTHING GOES.
10:22:46AM ANOTHER THING, ITEM NUMBER 88, I'M ALL FOR BUILDING FAIR
10:22:52AM OAKS, BUT IT HAVE TO BE THE FAIR OAKS WE AGREED UPON.
10:22:57AM IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS ON THE
10:23:00AM PROPERTY.
10:23:01AM WE ARE NOT A DOG.
10:23:03AM YOU DON'T JUST THROW US THE BONE.
10:23:05AM YOU TAKE THIS OR YOU TAKE NOTHING.
10:23:07AM NO, LET'S SLOW IT DOWN.
10:23:09AM LET'S GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
10:23:11AM THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED UPON AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.

10:23:15AM DON'T GIVE ME ANYTHING.
10:23:17AM AND ANOTHER THING, IF THE PRICE IS TOO HIGH, OKAY, LET'S SIT
10:23:22AM BACK AND WAIT.
10:23:24AM I WAIT TO GET WHAT I WANT INSTEAD OF JUST YOU THROWING ME
10:23:28AM ANYTHING AND I ACCEPT IT RIGHT NOW.
10:23:30AM IT'S NOT WHAT WE AGREED UPON.
10:23:33AM IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
10:23:36AM NOW ACCORDING TO THE PLANS IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE
10:23:40AM BUILDING AND IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WAY IN MY ZIP CODE BECAUSE
10:23:45AM ON DAVIS ISLAND, THEY EVEN HAVE A DOG PARK THAT'S SEPARATE.
10:23:49AM SO WHY DO THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND THE RECREATION FACILITY
10:23:55AM NEED TO BE COMBINED?
10:23:57AM THAT IS NOT WHAT WAS AGREED UPON.
10:24:01AM IN MY OPINION, I WANT IT TO BE WHAT WE AGREED UPON, TWO
10:24:06AM BUILDINGS.
10:24:07AM AND IF WE CAN NEGOTIATE ANOTHER PRICE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO
10:24:10AM GET BONDS AND MY GREAT GRANDCHILDREN HAVE TO PAY FOR IT,
10:24:15AM THAT'S EVEN BETTER.
10:24:18AM WE'VE BEEN WAITING THIS LONG FOR --
10:24:20AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
10:24:41AM >> -- SPOKE UP SAYING A FENCE AROUND THE PARK ON ALBANY AND
10:24:51AM MAIN, AND THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
10:24:55AM ONE OF THE REASONS THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IT IS
10:24:58AM BECAUSE THIS IS GOING AROUND THESE PARKS AND NOTHING BEEN
10:25:03AM DONE YET IN THE PARKS, BUT THEY REALLY GOT UPSET ABOUT THIS

10:25:08AM ONE BECAUSE -- IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE ABOUT TO DO SOME
10:25:13AM WORK ON THAT PARK.
10:25:14AM IT'S BECAUSE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE
10:25:18AM IN THAT PARK.
10:25:20AM WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A
10:25:26AM PROBLEM WITH THE FENCE BEING AROUND THERE BECAUSE I USED TO
10:25:28AM BE IN THE PARK, SITTING IN THE PARK THINKING TO MYSELF.
10:25:31AM ALSO LOOK AT THE PARK AND SEE BABIES IN THE PARK.
10:25:37AM IT'S A PROBLEM.
10:25:38AM I'M A MEMBER OF THE CRA.
10:25:39AM I SIT AROUND THE TABLE AND LISTEN TO THINGS THAT I KNOW
10:25:42AM SHOULDN'T BE DONE.
10:25:43AM I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, IF THE COMMUNITY SAY IT'S
10:25:49AM SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT IN THE CRA, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
10:25:52AM BE LISTENED AT AND THINGS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE CRA
10:25:58AM IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT IT SEEMS THE THING
10:26:00AM IS LOPSIDED.
10:26:01AM IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I DONE SAID THIS.
10:26:04AM I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.
10:26:06AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CRA AND THE CHAIR HAVE A PROBLEM
10:26:10AM WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
10:26:13AM HE BLOCKED THINGS.
10:26:15AM HE BLOCKED THE UNITY FESTIVAL.
10:26:19AM KNEW ABOUT THIS.
10:26:20AM STARTED BLOCKING PROGRESS FOR THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS FOR OUR

10:26:26AM YOUNG BABIES, FOR OUR KIDS THAT FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS,
10:26:29AM CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR THEMSELVES.
10:26:32AM SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR -- I WAS LOOKING FOR AS A LEADER FOR
10:26:37AM THE COMMUNITY, ASKING THE CRA TO COME UP WITH SOME PROGRAMS
10:26:43AM FOR THESE BABIES THAT'S COMING OUT THESE SCHOOLS THAT DON'T
10:26:47AM HAVE NOTHING TO DO.
10:26:49AM THEY'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO BUILD THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
10:26:52AM PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS, BRICK MASONS, ALL THIS COULD BE
10:27:00AM DONE, BUT IT WOULD BE BLOCK, BLOCK, BLOCK FROM SOMEONE
10:27:05AM SITTING ON THE TABLE AROUND -- I'M LOOKING AT IS NOT RIGHT.
10:27:13AM I KNOW IT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:27:14AM WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO ORGANIZE.
10:27:17AM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT -- I'M NOT TOO MUCH CARRYING ABOUT
10:27:21AM RATTLES IT'S NOT MY THING.
10:27:25AM WHAT I DO CARE ABOUT IS THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE TAXPAYERS.
10:27:28AM THESE ARE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
10:27:29AM YOU'RE TAKING TAXPAYERS' MONEY TO PUT A FENCE AROUND A PARK
10:27:35AM THAT BELONGS TO THEM.
10:27:36AM IT IS NOT FAIR.
10:27:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:27:39AM >> WE ARE GOING TO PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THIS THING.
10:27:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:43AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:27:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:27:52AM HAPPY THURSDAY.

10:27:55AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
10:28:00AM I AM SALLYISE LEE WITH THE VOLUNTARY MISSIONARY SOCIETY.
10:28:05AM I'M GETTING READY TO START A CAMPAIGN TO COVER THE DEPOSIT
10:28:11AM ON OUR RESOURCE CENTER.
10:28:13AM I'M STILL BELIEVING GOD FOR HIS FAVOR.
10:28:18AM HE IS THE WAVE MAKERS, MIRACLE WORKER, PROMISE KEEPER TO DO
10:28:25AM ALL THINGS IN LIFE THAT SEEMS TO BE IMPOSSIBLE AND ALL ODDS
10:28:31AM AGAINST US.
10:28:34AM BUT I KNOW HE WILL AND I WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD UNTIL I BE
10:28:40AM ABLE TO GET WHAT I WANT AND YOU CAN DONATE TO THE VOLUNTEER
10:28:46AM MISSIONARY SOCIETY PENNY FUND AT 1920 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AND
10:28:53AM IT'S ALL FOR 5K, SO THAT WE CAN OPEN THE DOOR TO OUR
10:28:57AM COMMUNITY RESOURCE AND YOUTH CENTER AND THE DEPOSIT IS FIVE.
10:29:06AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR EVERYONE TO GIVE US 5,000 SO WE CAN OPEN
10:29:09AM THE DOORS TO THE RESOURCE CENTER.
10:29:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:29:13AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:14AM NEXT SPEAKER, YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:29:17AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:29:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:29:20AM GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER, DOWNTOWN RIVER ARTS DISTRICT, DISTRICT
10:29:27AM 5, REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 79.
10:29:31AM SOMEONE ONCE SAID TO ME THAT THE ONLY BLACK MONUMENT, HIS
10:29:36AM WORD, IN TAMPA IS ROGERS PARK GOLF COURSE.

10:29:40AM I SAID, NO, THERE IS ALSO THE FORTUNE TELLER BRIDGE, HAPPY
10:29:50AM WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
10:29:51AM THANK YOU, TAMPA.
10:29:56AM I LOOK FORWARD TO TODAY'S SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF
10:30:00AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AS A CITY OF TAMPA LOCAL HISTORIC
10:30:06AM LANDMARK AND BLACK MONUMENT, IF YOU WILL.
10:30:11AM THANK YOU, TAMPA, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
10:30:16AM FOR APPRECIATING, PRESERVING, AND HONORING THE FULL STORY OF
10:30:22AM TAMPA AND ALL CITIZENS WHO HELPED BUILD IT.
10:30:29AM MAY THESE ANCESTORS AND PIONEERS REST IN PEACE.
10:30:33AM CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THEIR EFFORTS,
10:30:37AM LARGELY LED BY WOMEN, INCLUDING NOREEN COPELAND MILLER AND
10:30:43AM THE FRIENDS OF BELMONT HEIGHTS MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, AND
10:30:48AM AILEEN HENDERSON AND THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
10:30:52AM HAPPY WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
10:30:54AM AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA ON THIS
10:31:00AM LANDMARK MOMENT.
10:31:01AM THANK YOU.
10:31:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:31:03AM YES, MA'AM.
10:31:04AM GOOD MORNING.
10:31:05AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:31:10AM SANDRA DEDIEGO SANCHEZ.
10:31:13AM I'M HERE TO TALK ON ITEMS 94 AND 95 WHICH ARE STAFF REPORTS.

10:31:18AM ITEM NUMBER 94 I BELIEVE WAS ASKED BY COUNCILMAN HURTAK AND
10:31:25AM COUNCILMAN VIERA ABOUT THE SIZE OF GARAGES, PARKING SPACE
10:31:28AM SIZES.
10:31:29AM AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS REPORT, I NOTICED A COUPLE OF THINGS
10:31:33AM THAT STARED AT ME.
10:31:34AM THE FIRST THING IS THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE SIZE -- THE
10:31:39AM LENGTH OR THE WIDTH OF A CAR.
10:31:41AM HOW CAN YOU DO A GARAGE REPORT IF YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE
10:31:45AM AVERAGE SIZE OF A CAR?
10:31:47AM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING.
10:31:51AM THEY ALSO GIVE YOU A REPORT ON STREET PARKING SPACES.
10:31:55AM AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE
10:31:58AM GARAGES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR RESIDENTIAL CARS TO FIT IN?
10:32:04AM THE OTHER THING, THERE IS A THREE-PAGE ON SOLID WASTE WHICH
10:32:08AM WE ARE INTERESTED IN THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE RIGHT
10:32:13AM SIZE OF TRASH CANS THAT GO IN THOSE SPACES.
10:32:15AM HOW CAN YOU MAKE A RESPONSIBLE DECISION IF YOU DON'T HAVE
10:32:17AM THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION?
10:32:23AM ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THE AVERAGE
10:32:27AM CAR WIDTH IS 7.5 FEET AND THE LENGTH OF A CAR IS 15 FEET, IS
10:32:33AM AVAILABLE THROUGH THE INTERNET.
10:32:34AM YOU CAN EITHER LOOK UP BY CAR OR YOU CAN LOOK AT -- THERE IS
10:32:39AM ANOTHER WEBSITE THAT HAS ALL OF THE CARS' LENGTHS AND
10:32:43AM WIDTHS, NOT ONLY BY FEET, BUT BY CENTIMETERS, MILLIMETERS,
10:32:51AM THAT SORT OF THING.

10:32:51AM I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT
10:32:53AM PARTICULAR REPORT BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD.
10:32:55AM THE OTHER ONE, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, I BELIEVE YOU WERE THE
10:32:59AM ONE WHO ASKED FOR A REPORT ON THE AISLE STYLE.
10:33:02AM I NOTICED ON THIS THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION OF THE ACTUAL
10:33:07AM WIDTH OF THE AISLE, WHICH IS WHAT WAS IN QUESTION BESIDES
10:33:11AM THE SIZE OF THE GARAGES.
10:33:12AM IN THE FIRST REPORT, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PICTURE OF ONE OF
10:33:17AM THE AISLE DESIGNS THAT THE GARAGES FACED EACH OTHER AND THEY
10:33:22AM SHOWED DENSE ON THE GARAGE -- DENTS ON THE GARAGE DOORS THAT
10:33:27AM PEOPLE BACKED INTO THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO NARROW.
10:33:30AM THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE REPORT.
10:33:32AM IT DOES NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHICH WAS PARTICULARLY TO
10:33:35AM COMPARE IT WITH ORLANDO, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE A BEAUTIFUL
10:33:38AM JOB OF THAT.
10:33:39AM ORLANDO USES A 22-FOOT WIDTH ON THAT INTERNAL DRIVEWAY, BUT
10:33:46AM IT DOES NOT ADDRESS WHAT IS REALLY NEEDED.
10:33:49AM BEFORE THESE MOVE FORWARD, I ASK THAT YOU ASK FOR THE
10:33:52AM CORRECT INFORMATION TO HELP YOU MAKE A RESPONSIBLE DECISION.
10:33:55AM THANK YOU.
10:33:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:56AM YES, MA'AM.
10:33:58AM NEXT SPEAKER, DR. WILLIAMS.
10:34:00AM GOOD MORNING.
10:34:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:34:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:34:16AM >> DR. MICHELLE WILLIAMS.
10:34:17AM TODAY IS NO DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I STOOD AT THIS PODIUM JUST
10:34:24AM A WEEK AGO.
10:34:25AM TO STATE THAT THIS CITY HAS A PROBLEM.
10:34:32AM YOU ALL ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PROBLEM IN RESOLUTION 568.
10:34:38AM SO TODAY, AS I STAND BEFORE YOU, IT'S NOT JUST MY MERE
10:34:43AM VOICE, BUT A RESOUNDING OF EACH JUSTICE WHICH IS LONG
10:34:49AM OVERDUE TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:34:51AM WE HAVE STOOD AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY FOR FAR TOO LONG,
10:34:56AM WHERE THE SHADOWS OF OPPRESSION AND SOME CALL IT AFRO PHOBIA
10:35:03AM CASTED BY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT LOOM LARGE OVER THE
10:35:06AM SOULS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:35:08AM YOUR ACTIONS HAVE NOT MERELY INFLICTED HARM; THEY HAVE
10:35:12AM PERPETRATED A LEGACY OF SUFFERING, ABUSE THAT CANNOT BE
10:35:16AM IGNORED OR DISMISSED.
10:35:18AM RESOLUTION 568 WAS PASSED IN 2020.
10:35:21AM NATION'S STRUGGLES, THE NAMES OF THOSE WRONGED ARE ETCHED IN
10:35:26AM THE FABRIC OF OUR COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS.
10:35:29AM THEY CRY OUT FOR REDRESS, FOR THE RIGHTING OF THE WRONGS
10:35:32AM THAT HAVE FESTERED FOR FAR TOO LONG.
10:35:35AM CREATIVE SUFFERING, AS DR. KING WROTE, AFROPHOBIC POLICIES
10:35:40AM AND PROCEDURES HAVE SHACKLED THE SPIRITS OF LIBERTY,
10:35:43AM RELEGATING OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO THE CHAINS OF
10:35:45AM INJUSTICES.

10:35:46AM RESOLUTION 568 WAS PASSED IN 2020.
10:35:50AM BUT LET US BE CLEAR.
10:35:53AM THE TIME FOR RECKONING HAS ARRIVED.
10:35:55AM WE SHALL NOT FALTER.
10:35:57AM WE SHALL NOT YIELD FOR THE ARC OF THE MORAL UNIVERSE BENDS
10:36:03AM TOWARD JUSTICE.
10:36:03AM IT IS OUR SOLEMN DUTY TO ENSURE THAT IT DOES NOT SWIFTLY AND
10:36:08AM WITHOUT HESITATION BEING WITHHELD ANY LONGER.
10:36:11AM YOUR ATTEMPTS TO EVADE ACCOUNTABILITY SHALL NOT STAND FOR
10:36:15AM THE TRUTH SHALL SHINE FORTH LIKE A BEACON IN THE DARKEST OF
10:36:19AM NIGHTS.
10:36:20AM RESOLUTION 568 WAS PASSED IN 2020.
10:36:23AM AS WE EMBARK UPON THIS JOURNEY TOWARD JUSTICE, LET US
10:36:27AM REMEMBER THAT THE WORDS OF THE GREAT MEN WHOSE LEGACY
10:36:30AM CONTINUES TO INSPIRE US ALL, INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT
10:36:35AM TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.
10:36:36AM THE ECHOS OF THE WORDS REVERBERATE THROUGH THE CHAMBERS OF
10:36:40AM OUR CONSCIENCE, COMPELLING US TO STAND FIRM IN THE FACE OF
10:36:44AM ADVERSITY, TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND TO ENSURE THAT THE
10:36:47AM FLAME OF JUSTICE BURNS BRIGHTLY FOR ALL.
10:36:50AM IN THE WORDS OF JOHNNIE COCHRAN, HE SAID IT DOES NOT FIT,
10:36:54AM YOU MUST ACQUIT.
10:36:55AM BUT IN THIS CASE, THE EVIDENCE FITS ALL TOO WELL THAT THE
10:36:58AM VERDICT IS CLEAR.
10:37:00AM THE TIME FOR JUSTICE IS NOW.

10:37:02AM EACH OF YOU, ALONG WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, MS. ANDREA
10:37:05AM ZELMAN, HAVE BEEN SERVED A NOTICE OF INTENT TO SUE THE CITY
10:37:08AM OF TAMPA FOR THE SLAVERY, THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT
10:37:10AM HAVE IMPACTED THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:37:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:37:14AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:37:15AM YES, SIR.
10:37:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:37:19AM GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL TODAY.
10:37:20AM MY NAME IS FRED HEARNS.
10:37:24AM I GREW UP IN HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:37:28AM THE BOUNDARIES FOR HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS ON THE NORTH,
10:37:32AM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, ON THE SOUTH, I-4, ON THE EAST 30th
10:37:38AM STREET AND ON THE WEST, 15th STREET.
10:37:40AM THOSE ARE THE BOUNDARIES OF HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:37:44AM I LIVED IN BELMONT HEIGHTS FROM THE TIME I ATTENDED
10:37:47AM KINDERGARTEN UNTIL I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE.
10:37:50AM I KNOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY WELL.
10:37:53AM PRETTY SOON YOU'RE GOING TO BE RECEIVING AN INVITATION TO
10:37:55AM THE SECOND ANNUAL HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS REUNION.
10:37:59AM IT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST SATURDAY IN MAY.
10:38:03AM LAST YEAR, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON JOINED US FOR THAT EVENT.
10:38:06AM YOU ALL GOING TO BE INVITED THIS YEAR TO COME OUT AND
10:38:09AM CELEBRATE OUR HISTORY FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:38:13AM SO MANY PEOPLE, THE LIST IS SO LONG WHO GREW UP IN THAT

10:38:16AM NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO ATTENDED SCHOOL THERE, WHO WORKED IN THAT
10:38:19AM COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT HISTORY ALIVE AND
10:38:23AM PRESERVE THE NAME HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:38:26AM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION, AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER
10:38:29AM SUBJECTS VERY BRIEFLY, MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
10:38:32AM I STAND HERE TO SUPPORT LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF
10:38:37AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, WHICH SITS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
10:38:40AM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD I JUST TALKED ABOUT.
10:38:43AM HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:38:44AM WE APPRECIATE THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE THERE.
10:38:47AM THE CITY HAS STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND DONE THE RIGHT
10:38:50AM THING AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THE SAME THING.
10:38:53AM YOU MAY KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN DOING HISTORIC BLACK HISTORY
10:38:56AM WALKING TOURS FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN TAMPA.
10:38:59AM WE NOW HAVE A BLACK HISTORY WALKING TOUR IN MEMORIAL PARK
10:39:03AM CEMETERY.
10:39:04AM SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GROWING IN OUR SUPPORT OF THAT
10:39:09AM EFFORT AS YOU SUPPORT IT ALSO.
10:39:10AM THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS FAIR OAKS PARK AND THE
10:39:14AM WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE THERE.
10:39:16AM ALL OF THE MAGNIFICENT IMPROVEMENTS, THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT
10:39:19AM OF RESOURCES, MONEY THAT THE CITY IS POURING IN.
10:39:23AM BUT ALSO IMPORTANT IS TO PRESERVE THE NAME FAIR OAKS.
10:39:29AM WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IF I TOLD SOMEBODY I LIVED IN EAST
10:39:31AM TAMPA, THEY SAY, WHERE IN EAST TAMPA?

10:39:33AM BELMONT HEIGHTS, JACKSON HEIGHTS?
10:39:35AM I MEAN, WHERE?
10:39:36AM SO NAMES MEAN EVERYTHING.
10:39:39AM PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE NAME FAIR OAKS PARK.
10:39:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:39:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:45AM YES, SIR.
10:39:47AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:39:48AM GOOD MORNING.
10:39:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:39:50AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:39:52AM JOSEPH CITRO, 33611 FOR THE RECORD.
10:39:56AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:57AM IN HOPES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE A SPECIAL PERMIT TO THE
10:40:00AM ROUGH RIDERS FOR THE ST. PADDY'S DAY PARADE HELD IN DOWNTOWN
10:40:03AM TAMPA ON MARCH 16.
10:40:05AM FOUR LONG YEARS AGO, TWO THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MYSELF
10:40:12AM WENT TO FAIR OAKS.
10:40:13AM WE'VE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY IN A DILAPIDATED BUILDING, ROOF
10:40:18AM WAS LEAKING, RAT INFESTED.
10:40:21AM WE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:40:25AM FOUR LONG YEARS AGO.
10:40:31AM A NEW REC CENTER WAS REQUESTED.
10:40:34AM I KNOW THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT LEGAL MATTERS WITH

10:40:38AM LEASES AND PURCHASES OF LAND.
10:40:41AM BUT WITH THE RISING COSTS OF BUILDING MATERIALS AND
10:40:45AM CONSTRUCTION COSTS, CARPE DIEM, COUNCIL, SEIZE THE DAY.
10:40:51AM NOW IS THE TIME TO ENSURE WHAT WAS STARTED FOUR LONG YEARS
10:40:56AM AGO IS BROUGHT TO FRUITION FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
10:41:02AM FAIR OAKS WAS THE NAME OF THE COMPLEX THEN.
10:41:05AM IT SHOULD BE THE NAME OF THE COMPLEX NOW.
10:41:08AM SEIZE THE MOMENT, COUNCIL.
10:41:10AM THIS IS NO JOKE.
10:41:11AM THANK YOU.
10:41:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:41:13AM YES, MA'AM.
10:41:14AM GOOD MORNING, BISHOP PATTY.
10:41:16AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:41:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:41:19AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:41:21AM I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH THE MARKER FOR MEMORIAL PARK.
10:41:25AM IT'S VERY PERSONAL FOR ME BECAUSE I HAVE A BROTHER THAT IS
10:41:30AM BURIED IN AN UNMARKED GRAVE AT THAT CEMETERY.
10:41:34AM I'M PRAYING THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
10:41:37AM SECONDLY, I'M HERE ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
10:41:39AM FOUR YEARS AGO, WHEN COUNCILMAN CITRO WAS ON THE COUNCIL, I
10:41:42AM ALONG, WITH MR. J. JOHNSON, WE STOOD RIGHT HERE AT THIS
10:41:46AM PODIUM AND URGED AND ENCOURAGED YOU ALL TO BUILD FAIR OAKS,
10:41:51AM REBUILD FAIR OAKS.

10:41:52AM NOW THE QUESTION, SOME MIGHT SAY WHY NOT WAIT.
10:41:57AM YOU LOOK AT GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, EVERYTHING IS GOING
10:42:00AM UP.
10:42:00AM NOTHING IS COMING DOWN.
10:42:01AM THE PRICE OF THIS PARK ACTUALLY HAS GONE -- IT'S NOT WHAT IT
10:42:05AM WAS STATED.
10:42:07AM IT HAS COME IN UNDER BUDGET, BUT I WOULDN'T CARE IF IT WAS A
10:42:12AM MILLION DOLLARS.
10:42:12AM IT IS DUE TO THE COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA.
10:42:16AM WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:42:20AM AND WHAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT REALIZE, BONDS ARE USED FOR
10:42:26AM PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS EVERY DAY.
10:42:28AM SO YOUR CHILDREN AND YOU ARE PAYING TAXES, SO WHY NOT PAY
10:42:32AM FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
10:42:36AM COMMUNITY.
10:42:36AM YOU SAY WHAT'S THE NAME?
10:42:38AM WHAT'S IN A NAME?
10:42:40AM A LOT IS IN A NAME.
10:42:42AM IT'S HISTORICAL THAT'S IN A NAME.
10:42:44AM WHEN I NAMED MY CHILDREN IT HAD VALUE IN THEIR NAME.
10:42:47AM SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING HISTORICAL BELMONT HEIGHTS FAIR
10:42:53AM OAKS.
10:42:54AM WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, I THOUGHT IT WAS A TYPO, BUT TALKING
10:42:57AM ABOUT EAST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA WHAT?
10:42:59AM IT SEEMS LIKE FAIR OAKS WAS OKAY AS LONG AS IT WAS A

10:43:04AM DILAPIDATED BUILDING.
10:43:05AM NOW THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING
10:43:08AM MARVELOUS, SOMETHING SPECTACULAR, AFRICAN AMERICANS, YOU
10:43:12AM DON'T DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR NAME ATTACHED TO THIS PROJECT.
10:43:16AM THAT'S WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
10:43:18AM SO WE ARE HERE SAYING LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
10:43:22AM THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANY MORE DELAYS.
10:43:25AM THE PROJECT HAS GONE.
10:43:27AM THE TRAIN HAS MOVED FROM THE TRACK.
10:43:29AM NOW WE WANT TO KNOW THE DATE AND TIME THAT DIRT IS GOING TO
10:43:33AM BE DUG UP TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FAIR OAKS.
10:43:36AM IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO THIS EAST TAMPA, NOT JUST TO
10:43:41AM EAST TAMPA, BUT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
10:43:43AM SO BLACK FOLKS ARE SAYING TODAY WE DESERVE THIS.
10:43:47AM WE DEMAND THIS.
10:43:48AM WE WANT IT, AND WHEN WE WANT IT, WE WANT IT NOW.
10:43:51AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:43:53AM LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH FAIR OAKS.
10:43:55AM GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
10:43:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:43:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:57AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:43:58AM SIR, MA'AM.
10:44:00AM OH.
10:44:02AM YES, SIR.

10:44:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:44:06AM >> BEN DAVID COMING FROM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:44:09AM TALK ABOUT RESOLUTION 568.
10:44:11AM A RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING TAMPA'S HISTORY WHICH CONTRIBUTED
10:44:15AM TO A COMPLEX SYSTEM OF RACIALLY MOTIVATED DISCRIMINATION
10:44:18AM AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS.
10:44:22AM FORMALLY APOLOGIZING TO ALL FORMER AND CURRENT AFRICAN
10:44:26AM AMERICAN RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR ANY AND ALL PAST
10:44:30AM PARTICIPATION AND THE DAMAGE THIS SHAMEFUL HISTORY HAS
10:44:33AM CAUSED.
10:44:35AM IT'S NOT JUST A SHAME FOR HISTORY.
10:44:39AM IT'S A SHAME FOR PRESENT.
10:44:40AM IT'S A SHAME, FIRST OF ALL, I CAN'T EVEN GET AN AGENDA.
10:44:46AM THEY SAY IT'S ONLY ONE PAPER.
10:44:47AM SO SPEAKING TO AN ITEM WITH AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK
10:44:52AM ABOUT HOW IT'S A SHAME HOW YOU ALL CONTINUE TO DAMAGE THE
10:44:57AM YOUNG PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE BECAUSE
10:44:59AM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE DON'T HAVE NO EDUCATION, WHICH IS
10:45:03AM SAID IN THIS RESOLUTION, YOU WANT TO DO, BUT WE STILL AIN'T
10:45:07AM GOT NOTHING AFTER FOUR YEARS.
10:45:10AM TOOK FOUR YEARS TO ADDRESS GETTING A COMMITTEE AND NOW WE
10:45:12AM HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL APRIL 4.
10:45:15AM 2024, WE ON YOUR ALL NECKS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE
10:45:19AM ARE STILL FEELING THE DAMAGE, THE CONTINUING, THE
10:45:24AM DEBILITATING, THE ECONOMIC, THE EDUCATIONAL, THE HEALTH

10:45:27AM ADVERSITIES FROM THE DAMAGE YOU CAUSED THAT YOU
10:45:31AM ACKNOWLEDGED.
10:45:32AM OKAY.
10:45:32AM YOU ACKNOWLEDGED YOU PULLED THE KNIFE OUT OF THE BACK BUT
10:45:37AM WHERE IS THE HEALING?
10:45:38AM THE HEALING PROCESS -- THIS IS URGENT.
10:45:41AM BUT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT
10:45:45AM YOUR CONCERN.
10:45:46AM YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO YOU ALL.
10:45:50AM YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE -- JIM CROW LAWS.
10:45:55AM WHY DO EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY GET THE SUPPORT BUT THE PEOPLE
10:45:58AM THAT WENT THROUGH IT.
10:45:59AM DISPROPORTIONATE TREATMENT AT THE HANDS OF THE CRIMINAL
10:46:02AM JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT WE STILL FEELING TODAY.
10:46:06AM STILL FEELING TODAY.
10:46:08AM CAN'T GET A JOB BECAUSE THEY GOT CHARGED WITH CRIMES BECAUSE
10:46:13AM CONSTITUTIONALLY SLAVERY STILL EXISTS.
10:46:16AM POLICE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WANT US ALL BACK ON THE
10:46:19AM PLANTATION.
10:46:20AM BROTHER CAN'T GET A JOB BECAUSE YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO MOVE
10:46:23AM ON THIS, DON'T WANT A COMMITTEE -- DON'T WANT US TO
10:46:26AM REHABILITATE.
10:46:27AM DON'T WANT US TO REENTER THE COMMUNITY.
10:46:30AM WE THE ONLY ONES AFFECTED BY POLICIES.
10:46:34AM ONLY ONES AFFECTED BY BLACK HOLES.

10:46:36AM YOU MADE A PROFIT.
10:46:38AM WE NEED POLICIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROFIT.
10:46:40AM YOU GOT TRILLIONS IN THE BANK.
10:46:42AM WE KNOW WHAT THE -- WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
10:46:45AM APPROVING MILLIONS.
10:46:49AM MILLIONS.
10:46:50AM YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT INCREASING YOUR ALL SALARIES.
10:46:55AM IN 24 YEARS, WE DONE BEEN HERE 400 YEARS AND CAN'T GET A
10:47:01AM COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS -- I HATE YOU ALL.
10:47:05AM I HATE YOU ALL.
10:47:06AM I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T LOVE US.
10:47:10AM DON'T GIVE US NOTHING BUT LOVE -- DON'T GIVE US NOTHING BUT
10:47:14AM HATE AND YOU STILL AIN'T GOT NO COMMITTEE.
10:47:17AM APRIL 4 THE MAYOR ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE WE NEED THINGS.
10:47:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:22AM YES, SIR.
10:47:25AM GOOD MORNING.
10:47:26AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:47:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:47:32AM MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
10:47:34AM LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:47:36AM PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
10:47:42AM I CAN UNDERSTAND THE YOUNG MAN BEING FRUSTRATED BECAUSE
10:47:48AM THERE'S NO JUSTICE HERE FOR WHAT YOU ALL CALL NIGGAS, NO
10:47:55AM JUSTICE AT ALL.

10:48:01AM I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AIN'T BEEN NO
10:48:03AM CHANGES, NOTHING UP HERE BUT WHITE MEN, NO BLACK MEN,
10:48:11AM NOTHING.
10:48:11AM BUT GLORY BE TO GOD.
10:48:13AM THANK YOU JESUS.
10:48:14AM GOD HAD GIVEN US A CHANCE TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE SOME
10:48:18AM THINGS CHANGING.
10:48:19AM BUT NOT CHANGING IN OUR FAVOR.
10:48:22AM IT'S ONLY CHANGING IN YOUR ALL FAVOR, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:48:26AM YOU GOT ALL THOSE CESSPOOLS, WHAT YOU CALL RETENTION PONDS.
10:48:33AM CAN BUILD ANYTHING OUT THERE.
10:48:34AM BUILD A SCHOOL, BUILD A NICE HOME.
10:48:38AM NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE MY HOME.
10:48:41AM THEY CARE LESS ABOUT US.
10:48:47AM GIVE PRAISE TO GOD ALMIGHTY.
10:48:48AM THINK GOT US DOWN.
10:48:52AM WHEN YOU THINK YOU GOT US DOWN, GOD LIFTS US UP ANOTHER WAY.
10:48:56AM HE DO IT EVERY TIME.
10:48:58AM AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
10:49:00AM MY CHURCH RIGHT THERE ON SCOTT STREET, I HAD OVER 30 YEARS
10:49:05AM AGO.
10:49:06AM NOW THE WHITE FOLKS WANT TO TAKE THAT.
10:49:08AM MY MUSEUM IS RIGHT THERE IN THE CHURCH.
10:49:11AM ONE OF THE MOST FANTASTIC MUSEUMS WE EVER HAD.
10:49:14AM THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT.

10:49:16AM TRYING TO DESTROY THAT.
10:49:17AM NOW YOU GOT A GUY COMING AROUND TO ME TELLING ME HE WANT TO
10:49:23AM BUY.
10:49:23AM SELL IT TO HIM FOR $500,000 AND I CAN MOVE OUT OF THE
10:49:30AM NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THERE'S NO JUSTICE IN CENTRAL PARK FOR
10:49:33AM BLACK FOLKS BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:49:37AM BELMONT HEIGHTS AND START UP SOMETHING NEW.
10:49:40AM PARADISE, REMEMBER THE NAME, PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST
10:49:43AM CHURCH.
10:49:44AM THAT'S MY CHURCH.
10:49:46AM I AM THE FOUNDER OF IT.
10:49:48AM I'M THE ORGANIZER OF.
10:49:49AM AND I'M THE ONE THAT PURCHASED THE CHURCH FROM TEMPLE AME
10:49:54AM CHURCH.
10:49:55AM NOW THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT FROM US.
10:49:57AM TAKE EVERYTHING THEY THINK BLACK FOLK HAVE.
10:50:00AM OVER THERE IN CENTRAL PARK, YOU KNOW, FIRST PEOPLE THAT WAS
10:50:03AM OVER THERE, WHAT THEY CALL THE SCRUB WERE SLAVES.
10:50:08AM IT WAS THE SLAVES.
10:50:10AM AND NOW THE WHITE FOLKS DONE BUILD IT UP AND PUT HIGH-RISES
10:50:14AM IN THERE.
10:50:15AM NOW THEY WANT TO CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT IT IS
10:50:19AM STILL A SLAVE TOWN AS FAR AS I CAN SEE IT.
10:50:23AM LOOK AT THE TRUTH.
10:50:24AM DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT COLOR A PERSON IS OR WHERE THEY WENT

10:50:28AM TO SCHOOL.
10:50:29AM THAT MAKE NO DAMN DIFFERENCE.
10:50:32AM TREAT US ALL LIKE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE'LL BE PLEASED THE REST
10:50:37AM OF OUR LIVES.
10:50:38AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:50:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:50:40AM YES, MA'AM.
10:50:41AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:50:42AM GOOD MORNING.
10:50:45AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:50:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:50:50AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:50:56AM PROBLEM LIVING IN THIS CITY HAVE YOU SCREAMING AND SHOUTING
10:50:59AM EVEN WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE IN THE SAME PRESENCE OF MIND
10:51:03AM BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME ISSUES EVERY DAY, EVERY
10:51:07AM YEAR, HOPING, COMING DOWN HERE, SPEAKING TO YOU ALL THAT WE
10:51:11AM WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:51:13AM IT HAS BECOME LIKE THE MODEL FOR BLACK PEOPLE, SOMETHING IS
10:51:18AM BETTER THAN NOTHING.
10:51:20AM SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
10:51:22AM SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING WHEN WE LOOK AT HISTORICAL
10:51:28AM MEMORIAL CEMETERY AND WE SEE A TEMPORARY FENCING WHEN THE
10:51:34AM CRA PUT MONEY BACK FIVE YEARS AGO FOR A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
10:51:39AM CAN'T GET IT.
10:51:40AM SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING WHEN THE COMMUNITY ASKS AND

10:51:46AM REQUESTS FOR TWO STRUCTURES IN FAIR OAKS.
10:51:51AM NOW WE GET ONE.
10:51:53AM NOW THE DEVELOPERS GET ALL THE MONEY, AND NOW WE ARE SAYING
10:51:57AM ACCEPT THAT.
10:51:58AM SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
10:52:00AM SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING, WHEN WE MAKE A SIMPLE
10:52:04AM REQUEST, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PIPES PROGRAM AND ALL WHAT
10:52:08AM I THOUGHT WOULD BE JOBS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO
10:52:12AM HOOK UP WITH THE UNIONS, APPRENTICE PROGRAM, SEND REQUESTS
10:52:17AM OVER THERE AND SAY, HEY, LET'S FIND OUT WHERE WE CAN SEND
10:52:22AM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE FOR EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
10:52:24AM I'VE GOT TO PIECEMEAL, I'VE GOT TO PULL IT TOGETHER SO I CAN
10:52:28AM TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
10:52:29AM WHO TO SEND IT.
10:52:31AM WHERE TO TELL PEOPLE TO LOOK FOR A JOB.
10:52:33AM WHO GOT THE MOST JOBS.
10:52:35AM WHO OUT OF THE PIPES PROGRAM, ITEM NUMBER 92, SOME OF THOSE
10:52:39AM COMPANIES DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY OR THE STATE.
10:52:44AM WHERE WOULD OUR PEOPLE GAIN EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY?
10:52:47AM A $2 BILLION PROJECT AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS BEING
10:52:52AM SIGHTSEERS.
10:52:53AM WHEN OUR MEN HAVE THE JOBS, THEY ARE HOLDING A PLAQUE
10:52:59AM CONTROLLING TRAFFIC.
10:53:00AM THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL EXPECT US TO CONTINUE TO BEG AND BEND
10:53:03AM AND BEG AND BEND.

10:53:05AM WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED.
10:53:09AM WE WANT WHAT WE WANT.
10:53:10AM WE ARE TAXPAYERS.
10:53:12AM THIS CITY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE YOU
10:53:15AM HAVE ONE OR TWO BLACK CONTRACTORS ON THE PROJECT AND IT'S
10:53:19AM OKAY.
10:53:19AM IT IS NOT OKAY.
10:53:20AM WE ALL DESERVE TO EAT.
10:53:22AM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, FROM THE DRUG WARS TO NOW SCHOOLS THAT
10:53:27AM DON'T HAVE REAL APPRENTICE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE WITH
10:53:30AM MIDDLETON AND BLAKE, THEY ARE LOST IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:53:35AM WE ARE TIRED OF FEEDING THEM TO A SYSTEM THAT LOOKS AT THEM
10:53:38AM AS A NEW SLAVE CROP.
10:53:40AM DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PIPES PROGRAM.
10:53:44AM IT SHOULD NOT MOVE ANY FURTHER UNTIL THEY CAN STAND UP HERE
10:53:47AM AND TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM THIS COMMUNITY ARE BEING
10:53:52AM EMPLOYED.
10:53:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:53AM YES, MA'AM.
10:53:55AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:53:58AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:54:01AM AILEEN HENDERSON.
10:54:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:54:04AM >> I DID NOT INTEND TO SPEAK UNTIL LATER TODAY.
10:54:07AM I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW WHY.

10:54:08AM PRIDE OF 79.
10:54:10AM HOWEVER, LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS AND WHAT THEY'VE BROUGHT
10:54:16AM FORTH, I WAS COMPELLED TO SPEAK.
10:54:19AM I WAS COMPELLED TO SPEAK BECAUSE I REPRESENT HISTORY IN
10:54:25AM TAMPA.
10:54:25AM YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
10:54:26AM I FIGHT FOR THAT.
10:54:27AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
10:54:29AM AND WHEN I HEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CHANGE HISTORY
10:54:38AM AGAIN BY CHANGING A NAME, IT SEEMS INSIGNIFICANT TO SOME
10:54:43AM PEOPLE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THEY TRIED TO DO THAT IN
10:54:47AM BELMONT HEIGHTS AND I STAND HERE TODAY AS THE INTERIM
10:54:53AM PRESIDENT FOR HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
10:54:55AM ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THERE WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT TRIED
10:54:58AM TO WIPE IT AWAY.
10:55:02AM HOW FORTUNATE AM I THAT THEY ALLOW ME TO REPRESENT THEM.
10:55:07AM I HAVE LEARNED.
10:55:09AM I HAVE LISTENED.
10:55:10AM I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THEIR PLIGHT.
10:55:13AM NEVER.
10:55:13AM BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR IT EVERY CHANCE I GET.
10:55:18AM A NAME IS IMPORTANT.
10:55:22AM IT'S WHO WE ARE.
10:55:23AM DON'T CHANGE THE NAME.
10:55:28AM FAIR OAKS.

10:55:31AM THAT'S THE NAME.
10:55:32AM NO MORE DISCUSSION.
10:55:35AM FAIR OAKS.
10:55:36AM THANK YOU.
10:55:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:55:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:38AM YES, MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
10:55:40AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:55:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:55:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:55:45AM MY NAME IS BLACK ROSE.
10:55:48AM I AM HERE MOSTLY TO LIFT UP THE VOICES THAT HAVE ALREADY
10:55:52AM SPOKEN.
10:55:52AM THIS COMMUNITY HAS SAID WHAT THEY NEED TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
10:55:57AM THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BEGGING FOR YEARS TO JUST BE HEARD
10:56:02AM AND RESPECTED.
10:56:03AM AND AS THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THIS COMMUNITY AS THE PEOPLE
10:56:08AM WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS, NOT THE
10:56:12AM INTERESTS OF THE MAYOR, NOT THE INTERESTS OF THE
10:56:14AM CONTRACTORS, BUT OUR -- THE CITIZENS' INTERESTS.
10:56:17AM I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF
10:56:24AM HISTORY, TO STOP POSTPONING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, TO DO IT.
10:56:28AM TO STOP PUTTING THE BLAME ON SOMEBODY ELSE OR PUTTING THE
10:56:31AM RESPONSIBILITY ON SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:56:32AM I JUST WANT TO REPEAT THESE WORDS FROM LIFT EVERY VOICE AND

10:56:36AM SING.
10:56:37AM LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING TILL THE EARTH AND HEAVEN RING.
10:56:41AM RING WITH THE HARMONIES OF LIBERTY.
10:56:44AM LET OUR REJOICING RISE.
10:56:46AM HIGH AS THE LISTING SKIES.
10:56:50AM LET IT RESOUND LOUD AS THE ROLLING SEA.
10:56:52AM SING A SONG FULL OF THE FAITH THAT THE DARK PAST HAS TAUGHT
10:56:56AM US.
10:56:57AM SING A SONG FULL OF THE HOPE THAT THE PRESENT HAS BROUGHT
10:57:02AM US.
10:57:02AM FACING THE RISING SUN OF OUR NEW DAY BEGUN, LET US MARCH ON
10:57:08AM UNTIL VICTORY IS WON.
10:57:10AM STONEY THE ROAD WE TROD, BITTER THE CHASTENING ROD, FELT IN
10:57:14AM THE DAYS WHEN HOPE UNBORN HAS DIED, YET WITH A STEADY BEAT
10:57:20AM WE HAVE NOT OUR WARY FEET COME TO THE PLACE FOR WHICH OUR
10:57:26AM FATHER SIDE.
10:57:27AM WE HAVE COME OVER THE WAVE THAT WITH TEARS HAS BEEN WATERED.
10:57:31AM WE HAVE COME TREADING OUR PATH THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THE
10:57:34AM SLAUGHTERED, OUT FROM THE GLOOMY PAST TILL NOW WE STAND AT
10:57:39AM LAST WITH THE WHITE GLEAM OF OUR BRIGHT STAR IS CAST.
10:57:43AM WE WILL CHANGE THE COURSE THAT THIS CITY HAS TAKEN.
10:57:48AM I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT.
10:57:51AM THANK YOU.
10:57:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:58AM YOU WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.

10:58:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:58:00AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:58:01AM THE THEME TODAY REALLY SHOULD BE CHAMPAGNE TASTE WITH A BEER
10:58:04AM POCKETBOOK.
10:58:05AM I'VE GOT THE PICTURES.
10:58:09AM THIS IS NUMBER 89, THE BAYSHORE PUMPING STATION.
10:58:13AM IN THE C.I.P., IN THE BUDGET, IT IS 6.4 MILLION.
10:58:19AM BOTH PLACES.
10:58:23AM THEN IN THE AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK IT WAS 12 MILLION.
10:58:26AM BUT WHEN YOU OPEN THAT NIFTY DOCUMENT, GUESS WHAT, IT SAYS
10:58:30AM 17 MILLION.
10:58:31AM OKAY.
10:58:32AM YOU GUYS APPROVED 6.4 MILLION.
10:58:37AM NOW WE'RE UP TO 17.
10:58:38AM THAT'S 10 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ON THIS PROJECT.
10:58:41AM WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
10:58:42AM WHERE IS IT SUPPOSED TO COME FROM?
10:58:44AM I KNOW AT MY HOUSE WHEN I GIVE MY DAUGHTER 64 DOLLARS, 6.4
10:58:51AM MILLION, WHATEVER, AND SHE ASKS FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED
10:58:55AM WHATEVER, SHE WANTS MORE MONEY BECAUSE SHE CAN'T GET WHAT
10:58:57AM SHE WANTS FOR THAT PRICE, I TELL HER TO GO FIGURE IT OUT.
10:59:01AM SHE BETTER DO NEW MATH.
10:59:02AM THE OTHER PROBLEM IS MCKAY BAY, NUMBER 39, MCKAY BAY IS $108
10:59:07AM MILLION PROJECT.
10:59:09AM OKAY.

10:59:11AM AND WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS ON THIS AGENDA THAT ARE SCOPE
10:59:17AM CREEP.
10:59:17AM WHEN YOU REMODEL A BATHROOM AND COSTS $108 MILLION ARE YOU
10:59:21AM GOING TO BE PAYING LATER $144,000 FOR A CAULKING JOB?
10:59:27AM ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT AS PART OF THE DEAL.
10:59:30AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THERE
10:59:33AM CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT 5.5 MILLION OF THAT -- YES, I'LL
10:59:37AM KEEP HARPING ON THIS FOREVER AND EVER AMEN BECAUSE IT WAS
10:59:42AM SUPPOSED TO BE GO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE GOT SCREWED.
10:59:45AM NUMBER 29 IS DOUBLE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
10:59:48AM DOES THAT MEAN WE'VE GOT DOUBLE THE MATERIALS, DOUBLE THE
10:59:50AM LABOR?
10:59:51AM THERE'S NO DEFINITION IN THAT.
10:59:53AM AND NUMBER 8, 9, 10, 32, 33, 35, 34, 46, 43, 44, I'M SURE
11:00:03AM THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE, MR. BISHOP DID THE MATH.
11:00:07AM SAID IT WAS ABOUT $10 MILLION.
11:00:08AM I'LL TRUST HIM BECAUSE HE IS A SMART GUY.
11:00:11AM I DIDN'T DO THE MATH.
11:00:12AM BUT THAT MUCH IN VEHICLES ON ONE FREAKIN' AGENDA.
11:00:16AM $10 MILLION WORTH OF VEHICLES.
11:00:18AM AGAIN, BIG CHUNK FOR SOLID WASTE.
11:00:20AM SOLID WASTE WHO NEEDED THAT 5.5 MILLION, HELL A LOT MORE
11:00:24AM THAN WE NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:00:25AM AGAIN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS ALL THIS STUFF IN THE BUDGET?
11:00:30AM WHERE ARE THE LINE ITEMS FROM THE BUDGET?

11:00:32AM WE KEEP EVERY WEEK, THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY UGLY AGENDA
11:00:38AM WITH A BUNCH OF MONEY BEING SPENT.
11:00:41AM THE QUESTION IS, WHO IN THE HELL IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT?
11:00:44AM ARE WE GOING TO ASK FOR A BUDGET INCREASE AGAIN NEXT YEAR?
11:00:48AM I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, WHO IS KEEPING UP WITH THIS?
11:00:50AM I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT AND I READ THIS STUFF EVERY WEEK.
11:00:54AM I READ THE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THIS
11:00:57AM STUFF IS GOING DOWN AN UGLY, UGLY ROAD.
11:00:59AM YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT TRUCK LAST ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS?
11:01:02AM YOU CAN'T DO THAT?
11:01:03AM THANK YOU.
11:01:04AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
11:01:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:01:06AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:01:08AM AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 5 AND 6 IF
11:01:13AM ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ITEMS 5 AND 6, PLEASE
11:01:16AM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:01:18AM THESE ARE BOTH QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:01:20AM MADAM CLERK, IF YOU CAN SWEAR THE FOLKS IN.
11:01:27AM I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
11:01:28AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO -- OH, YOU DO.
11:01:31AM LET'S TAKE A MOMENT.
11:01:32AM GET A MOTION TO OPEN 5 AND 6?
11:01:37AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:01:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:01:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:01:43AM AYE.
11:02:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO OPEN.
11:02:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALREADY DID THE MOTION.
11:02:02AM MIRANDA MADE THE MOTION.
11:02:05AM VIERA SECONDED AND THE HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
11:02:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:02:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT A SECOND IF ANYBODY ELSE IS
11:02:14AM COMING IN.
11:02:15AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 5 OR 6, PLEASE STAND AND
11:02:26AM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:02:27AM ARE THERE MORE FOLKS COMING IN?
11:02:29AM NO.
11:02:34AM ALL RIGHT.
11:02:34AM FOR 5 AND 6, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE HEARINGS,
11:02:37AM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU
11:02:40AM IN.
11:02:41AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:02:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:02:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN AND PERHAPS PEOPLE CAN REFRESH MY
11:02:52AM RECOLLECTION, IT APPEARS THAT THIS WAS HERE AND STAFF IS
11:02:56AM PRESENT TO TALK ABOUT PROCEDURALLY, THIS WAS HEARD ON
11:03:00AM FEBRUARY 15, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:03:02AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:03:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IT WAS A 3-3 VOTE WITH

11:03:09AM COUNCIL MEMBERS MIRANDA, HENDERSON, AND HURTAK VOTING NO.
11:03:15AM AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WAS ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:03:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
11:03:18AM IT SAYS MIRANDA AND HURTAK NO.
11:03:20AM HENDERSON WAS ABSENT.
11:03:21AM THAT'S WHAT MY AGENDA SAYS.
11:03:23AM >> THAT WAS FIRST READING.
11:03:24AM DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.
11:03:27AM JUNE 18 WAS THE FIRST READING.
11:03:32AM THE SECOND READING, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS CORRECT,
11:03:35AM SECOND READING IN FEBRUARY.
11:03:36AM ENDED ON A 3-3 TIE VOTE WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON, AND HURTAK
11:03:40AM VOTING NO.
11:03:42AM CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
11:03:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AUTOMATICALLY IT WAS REOPENED AND CONTINUED
11:03:47AM TO THIS DATE PURSUANT TO COUNCIL RULES.
11:03:51AM QUITE FRANKLY, THE POINT IS NOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS GOING
11:03:54AM TO BE ASKED WHETHER HE HAS REVIEWED THE RECORD AND WHETHER
11:03:56AM HE IS PREPARED TO VOTE AND IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
11:03:59AM PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
11:04:02AM OTHERWISE, THEN IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO CLOSE, READ THE
11:04:06AM TITLE AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DECISION IS, THEN TAKE A
11:04:11AM VOTE PURSUANT TO A FULL COUNCIL BEING PRESENT.
11:04:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:04:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS HERE FOR THE FIRST READING.

11:04:19AM THE SECOND READING I WAS OUT SICK BUT I WATCHED THE VIDEO
11:04:23AM AND I READ THE FILE AND THE STAFF REACHED OUT TO ME AND I
11:04:26AM DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:27AM I'M READY TO VOTE.
11:04:28AM THANK YOU.
11:04:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR
11:04:30AM ANYONE PRESENT?
11:04:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, ARE YOU PREPARED THEN?
11:04:35AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:04:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:04:37AM CLENDENIN.
11:04:38AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:04:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:04:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:04:42AM AYE.
11:04:42AM I'M LOOKING HERE WHO VOTED NO.
11:04:48AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE READING THIS?
11:04:51AM MR. SHELBY.
11:04:52AM I CAN PASS IT DOWN -- IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ITEM 5.
11:05:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM 5, FILE REZ-22-61, ORDINANCE BEING
11:05:06AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:05:09AM APPROVING A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION,
11:05:12AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3602 NORTH
11:05:14AM 50th STREET AND 3501 NORTH 46th STREET IN THE CITY OF
11:05:18AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2

11:05:21AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16, RESIDENTIAL,
11:05:24AM MULTIFAMILY, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
11:05:26AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:05:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:05:28AM CARLSON.
11:05:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:05:30AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:05:43AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON, AND
11:05:45AM HURTAK VOTING NO.
11:05:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:49AM THE MOTION THEREFORE PASSES AND IT WILL GET SIGNED.
11:05:54AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:54AM ITEM NUMBER 6 WE ALSO HAD A TIE VOTE WITH A MEMBER OF
11:06:00AM COUNCIL BEING ABSENT.
11:06:01AM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE --
11:06:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS YOUR MIKE ON?
11:06:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE APPLICANT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO COME
11:06:10AM TODAY.
11:06:10AM >>THE CLERK: SHE SENT AN E-MAIL THAT SHE HAD A FAMILY ISSUE
11:06:13AM AND REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.
11:06:18AM IT'S AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION --
11:06:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE 28th IS VERY BUSY.
11:06:23AM HOW ABOUT APRIL 4th?
11:06:25AM DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A LIGHTER DAY?
11:06:28AM >> APRIL 4th WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER REVIEW HEARINGS, JUST TO

11:06:32AM KEEP THAT IN MIND.
11:06:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT APRIL 18?
11:06:34AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO APRIL --
11:06:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WE WILL -- JUST A REMINDER, SHE IS NOT
11:06:45AM PRESENT.
11:06:45AM THE CLERK, OBVIOUSLY, YOU WILL NOTIFY HER OF THE DATE AND
11:06:48AM TIME.
11:06:49AM WHAT WE NEED FOR THE MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE IS A DATE AND
11:06:56AM TIME AND LOCATION, A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN SO WE CAN
11:06:59AM COMMUNICATE THAT.
11:07:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I THINK THIS WAS JUST SIMPLY A 3-3
11:07:05AM VOTE.
11:07:06AM I THINK IT WOULD GO JUST AS QUICKLY AS THIS.
11:07:08AM I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
11:07:12AM WE'RE HEARING, GOING TO DO ANY BIG HEARING.
11:07:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT.
11:07:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE APRIL 4th?
11:07:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THE QUESTION.
11:07:25AM DEPENDS ON HOW IT GOES.
11:07:26AM IF YOU VOTE IN A WAY THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT
11:07:30AM AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A
11:07:32AM PROBLEM.
11:07:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN TAKE IT TO APRIL 4, NOT TODAY.
11:07:35AM I'M SAYING SOONER THAN THE APRIL 18.
11:07:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THIS ISSUE, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THIS,

11:07:44AM SO WOULD THE APPLICANT -- WOULDN'T WE JUST OPEN IT AND CLOSE
11:07:49AM IT?
11:07:49AM WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS
11:07:52AM HEARING?
11:07:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, NOT UNLESS THERE WAS A QUESTION
11:07:59AM BY THE PERSON WHO WAS ABSENT AS TO WHETHER --
11:08:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULDN'T IT BE PRUDENT TO ASK THE PERSON
11:08:06AM ABSENT IF SHE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, IF SHE REVIEWED THE RECORD
11:08:10AM AND WATCHED IT AND DOESN'T HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN MOVE
11:08:12AM FORWARD?
11:08:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT MY UNDERSTANDING
11:08:15AM IS YOU HAD A REQUEST OF AN APPLICANT FOR A CONTINUANCE.
11:08:19AM IF YOU WISH TO GO FORWARD, THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AND WE
11:08:22AM CAN SEE WHERE IT ENDS UP.
11:08:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE COULD DENY THE CONTINUANCE.
11:08:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WISHES TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 4?
11:08:34AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:08:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:08:40AM APRIL 4th, 9:30 A.M., 315 -- 10 A.M.
11:08:45AM APRIL 4th, 10 A.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD
11:08:50AM FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, OLD CITY HALL.
11:08:51AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:08:53AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 4th, AYE.
11:08:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:08:57AM MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.

11:09:06AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:09:07AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:09:08AM I WAS TRYING TO CATCH SOMEONE'S ATTENTION BEFORE YOU VOTED.
11:09:11AM THE LAST TIME THE APPLICANT WAS HERE ON FEBRUARY 15 WHEN IT
11:09:15AM HAD TO BE CONTINUED AND COUNCIL SET IT AS THE FIRST ITEM OR
11:09:18AM ONE OF THE FIRST ITEMS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT AS OPPOSED TO A
11:09:21AM TIME CERTAIN SO SHE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT FOR POTENTIALLY
11:09:24AM FOUR OR FIVE HOURS AGAIN.
11:09:25AM JUST REMIND COUNCIL OF THAT.
11:09:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: SHOULD I AMEND MY MOTION FOR THAT?
11:09:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE DIDN'T COME TODAY.
11:09:43AM I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT WAS --
11:09:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S LEAVE IT AS IS.
11:09:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:48AM ALL IN FAVOR FOR THE CONTINUANCE, WE VOTED, BUT TO BE SAFE,
11:09:52AM AYE.
11:09:52AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:09:53AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:53AM ALL RIGHT, PER THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON,
11:09:58AM WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
11:10:00AM FAIR OAKS.
11:10:03AM ITEM NUMBER 88.
11:10:04AM IN SPEAKING WITH YOU, MR. MULKEY, YOU NEED ABOUT TEN MINUTES
11:10:16AM FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL
11:10:18AM MEMBERS FIVE MINUTES EACH.

11:10:20AM KEEP THE TIMER ON.
11:10:21AM MY QUESTION IS MAYBE ONE OR TWO VERY BRIEF.
11:10:24AM VERY BRIEF COMMENTS.
11:10:25AM WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.
11:10:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:28AM I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
11:10:31AM >>TONY MULKEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:10:32AM GOOD MORNING COMMUNITY, IT IS MY DISTINCT PLEASURE TO SHARE
11:10:36AM THE DESIGN AND THE CONTRACT PROPOSAL FOR FIRST READING FOR
11:10:41AM THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX AT FAIR OAKS.
11:10:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE TRANSCRIPT, STATE YOUR NAME.
11:10:47AM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND
11:10:49AM RECREATION DIRECTOR.
11:10:51AM SO THIS PROCESS STARTED BACK IN LATE 2019 WITH AN INITIATIVE
11:10:56AM TO IMPROVE FAIR OAKS PARK.
11:10:59AM THAT INITIATIVE HAS GROWN THROUGH THE COMMUNITY INPUT AS
11:11:03AM WELL AS OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE PARCELS AROUND THE AREA TO
11:11:05AM CREATE A MUCH LARGER PROJECT UTILIZING THE NATURAL FEATURES
11:11:10AM OF CARRINGTON POND AND DEVELOPING BOTH THE SENIOR CENTER AND
11:11:14AM A COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER.
11:11:16AM I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT I'M STANDING BEFORE COUNCIL THAT
11:11:22AM AFTER THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS, THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE
11:11:26AM AMENITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY INPUT
11:11:28AM PROCESS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS PROJECT,
11:11:32AM AND WE'VE MADE BUDGET.

11:11:34AM WE'RE ON TARGET.
11:11:35AM I'M GOING TO HAND THIS OVER FOR THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION.
11:11:39AM WE BROUGHT IN THE MODEL HERE.
11:11:41AM WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR SKANSKA USA WHO IS GOING TO BE -- WHO
11:11:45AM WAS AWARDED THE DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT BACK IN 2022.
11:11:49AM THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT DESIGN PHASE, AND NOW WE'RE
11:11:52AM READY TO CONSTRUCT.
11:11:53AM SCANS ASK A -- SKANSKA CONSTRUCTED CURTIS HIXON PARK,
11:11:59AM RIVERFRONT PARK AND MORE RECENTLY THE ST. PETERSBURG PIER AS
11:12:03AM WELL AS COACHMAN PARK AND THE SOUND OVER IN CLEARWATER.
11:12:06AM WITH THAT, I'LL YIELD TO SKANSKA TO RUN YOU THROUGH THE
11:12:10AM DETAILS OF THE PROJECT.
11:12:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL CHAIR.
11:12:18AM MY NAME IS CHUCK JABLON, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF SKANSKA,
11:12:23AM LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA AND BUILDER.
11:12:26AM AS HE SUGGESTED, OVER 14 PARKS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
11:12:30AM TODAY, IT'S MY PRIVILEGE AND MY HONOR, NEVER BEEN MORE PROUD
11:12:34AM AFTER 52 YEARS IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS TO PRESENT AND
11:12:38AM WORK SO HARD FOR SO MANY PEOPLE SO DESERVING AT FAIR OAKS.
11:12:43AM SO HAVING SAID THAT, IF YOU CAN STEP BACK SO COUNCIL CAN
11:12:50AM SEE, THIS IS WHAT FAIR OAKS LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, LOOKING
11:12:54AM FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WHERE
11:12:59AM PENNY SAVER WAS LISTED.
11:13:01AM RIGHT OVER HERE IS RIGHT AT 56 -- 5700 SQUARE FEET OF YOUTH
11:13:09AM CENTER AND WORN OUT BASKETBALL COURT AND BASEBALL FIELD.

11:13:13AM CAN'T DRIVE A 16-PENNY NAIL IN.
11:13:17AM YOU CAN PUT FIVE OF THOSE YOUTH CENTERS IN --
11:13:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MICROPHONE,
11:13:22AM SIR.
11:13:23AM >> YOU CAN PUT -- THANK YOU.
11:13:26AM YOU CAN PUT FIVE OF THOSE YOUTH CENTERS INSIDE 34,000 SQUARE
11:13:31AM FEET OF A SHARED YOUTH AND SENIOR CENTER.
11:13:34AM WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN PUT IN A PARK ON 10.25
11:13:38AM ACRES.
11:13:39AM PICKLEBALL COURTS, EXTERIOR BASKETBALL COURTS, PICNIC
11:13:43AM SHELTERS, 14 SHADE STRUCTURES, 26 BENCHES, A YOUTH SPORTS
11:13:50AM FIELD.
11:13:51AM NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART ARTIFICIAL TURF WITH FULL UNDERDRAIN.
11:13:57AM ALL NEW INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM.
11:13:58AM PEDESTRIAN PLAZA, SHUFFLEBOARD COURTS, OUTDOOR PATIOS FOR
11:14:03AM THE SENIORS.
11:14:03AM A PROGRAM THAT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE FAIR OAKS
11:14:07AM RESIDENTS OVER 300 REQUESTS.
11:14:10AM WE GATHERED THAT INFORMATION AND NOT ONLY DID WE GET ALL OF
11:14:14AM THEIR REQUESTS IN, BUT WE GOT MORE THAN THAT.
11:14:16AM WE ARE UNDER BUDGET.
11:14:17AM WE ARE READY TO GO AND AS MICHELLE PATTY SAID, WE'RE READY
11:14:22AM FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:14:34AM >> I'LL HAND IT OFF TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
11:14:37AM WE WILL KEEP IT BRIEF AND RESPOND TO ANYTHING.

11:14:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:41AM I'LL KICK IT OFF VERY BRIEFLY.
11:14:43AM WHAT IS THE EBO PARTICIPATION?
11:14:45AM BECAUSE THERE WERE QUESTIONS OF 30%, THEN I HEARD 23%.
11:14:49AM THEN I ASKED A GENTLEMAN ON STAFF AND SAID THAT IT IS IN
11:14:54AM WRITING THAT IT IS AT 30%.
11:14:56AM DO YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION?
11:14:58AM >> YES.
11:15:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:15:02AM BERTHA MITCHELL.
11:15:03AM WE WERE VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR CALCULATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:15:09AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:15:11AM AND WE WANT TO CREATE MORE STORIES AS STEVEN BRIDGES, WHO
11:15:17AM WAS THE ENGINEER, THE PROJECT ENGINEER AT HANNA.
11:15:21AM SO WE CALCULATED A GOAL OF 30%.
11:15:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:15:29AM AND THAT IS IN WRITING.
11:15:31AM >> IT IS.
11:15:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S NO MODIFICATIONS TO IT.
11:15:33AM NO, WELL, YOU KNOW -- IT IS 30%.
11:15:38AM >> IT IS 30%.
11:15:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:39AM THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
11:15:41AM SECOND, THIS IS A VERY EXCITING AND BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
11:15:47AM I CAN'T WAIT TO GO WITH MY FAMILY THERE.

11:15:48AM YOU, SIR, MANY OF YOU WERE THERE.
11:15:51AM GAVE ME A TOUR OF THIS MODEL.
11:15:53AM VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.
11:15:54AM I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SENIORS, REGARDING
11:15:57AM ADA ACCESSIBILITY, REGARDING FUTURE GROWTH.
11:16:01AM I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND YOU ANSWERED EVERYTHING.
11:16:04AM THE QUESTION THAT'S COME UP REGARDING THE NAME OF THE
11:16:07AM COMPLEX, AND I UNDERSTAND THE PASSION BEHIND IT REGARDING
11:16:11AM FAIR OAKS, LEAVING IT AS FAIR OAKS BECAUSE IN THE TIME I'VE
11:16:15AM BEEN HERE, NINE YEARS ALMOST, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
11:16:20AM WHAT USED TO BE FORTUNE STREET BRIDGE.
11:16:23AM 1968-69 IT WAS RENAMED LAUREL STREET BRIDGE.
11:16:27AM WHAT WAS LAUREL?
11:16:27AM IS IT A LAUREL OAK TREE?
11:16:29AM WHY TAKE AWAY THE NAME FORTUNE, WHICH WAS MADAM FORTUNE
11:16:34AM TAYLOR.
11:16:34AM WE RESTORED THE NAME OF THE BRIDGE TO MADAM FORTUNE TAYLOR
11:16:38AM BRIDGE OR FORTUNE TAYLOR BRIDGE, A VERY IMPORTANT
11:16:42AM SIGNIFICANT INDIVIDUAL IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:16:45AM WE DON'T WANT TO MODIFY HISTORY.
11:16:46AM WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
11:16:48AM IF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN IT AS FAIR
11:16:51AM OAKS, WE SHOULD LEAVE IT AS FAIR OAKS.
11:16:54AM PEOPLE SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR.
11:16:55AM I LOVE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

11:16:56AM I LOVE TAMPA'S HISTORY, BUT WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.
11:17:00AM IF PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN IT, JUST LIKE WHEN I WAS A KID,
11:17:04AM AND I STILL LIVE NEAR THERE, HORIZON PARK, HORIZON PARK WAS
11:17:07AM RENAMED AL LOPEZ PARK.
11:17:09AM WHO WAS AL LOPEZ?
11:17:11AM A LEGEND.
11:17:12AM I WON'T GO INTO THE STORY.
11:17:13AM BUT I REMEMBER THAT PARK, IT'S A BIG PARK.
11:17:18AM STILL THERE.
11:17:18AM WHEN I WAS A KID, BUILT A BRAND-NEW PLAYGROUND.
11:17:22AM I WANT TO SAY MAYBE 30 YEARS AGO.
11:17:24AM I REMEMBER HOW EXCITED I WAS BECAUSE THE NEWS WAS THERE AND
11:17:27AM ALL THESE KIDS WERE GOING OUT RUNNING TO SEE THIS NEW
11:17:29AM PLAYGROUND.
11:17:30AM THAT WAS A HUGE DEAL FOR ME AS I DON'T KNOW A TEN-YEAR-OLD
11:17:34AM BOY, NINE-YEAR-OLD BOY.
11:17:36AM THAT IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT IS BEING BUILT HERE.
11:17:40AM MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE SKANSKA, TO THE FOLKS BEHIND IT, TO
11:17:44AM THE ENGINEERS, BECAUSE THIS IS TRULY SPECTACULAR AND
11:17:48AM SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF.
11:17:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:51AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU -- I'LL GO DOWN THE ROW.
11:17:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REMINISCE BACK, CUSCADEN PARK, USED TO BE
11:18:01AM A BELMONT PARK, JACKSON HEIGHTS PARK -- GOING BACK INTO THE
11:18:09AM '40s AND '50s.

11:18:11AM NOT THAT I'M THAT OLD.
11:18:12AM GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY WITH KIDS AND THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS
11:18:20AM ALL ABOUT.
11:18:21AM IT'S ABOUT KIDS.
11:18:22AM KIDS ARE THE ONES THAT DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
11:18:24AM TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY AND THE DAY AFTER.
11:18:26AM BUT IN ORDER TO BE A KID, IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
11:18:32AM GOING ON, YOU HAVE TO LIVE IT.
11:18:36AM YOU HAVE TO FEEL IT.
11:18:38AM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WANT
11:18:42AM IT.
11:18:42AM I BELIEVE IT MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA OF YESTERDAY, TODAY,
11:18:46AM TOMORROW, AND FOR THE FUTURE.
11:18:48AM WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS A MAGNET THAT DRAWS NOT ONLY
11:18:54AM THE YOUNG, BUT ALSO THE NOT-SO-YOUNG AND HAS THE COOPERATION
11:19:01AM OF ALL COMING TOGETHER ONE AREA, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE THAN A
11:19:09AM DREAM.
11:19:10AM YOU ARE MORE THAN LIKELY SETTING A NEW FUTURE.
11:19:14AM YOU SEE AS A KID, GOING TO ORANGE GROVE DURING THE SUMMER
11:19:19AM SESSION AND SITTING DOWN PLAYING WITH SHELLS AND MAKING
11:19:23AM ORNAMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
11:19:26AM I ALSO REMEMBER NOT EVEN KNOWING ONE WORD OF ENGLISH WHEN I
11:19:30AM WENT TO SCHOOL AT ORANGE GROVE.
11:19:32AM IF IT WASN'T FOR ONE TEACHER NAMED MS. INGRAM, I WOULD MORE
11:19:38AM THAN LIKELY NEVER LEARNED A WORD OF ENGLISH.

11:19:41AM BUT THAT HOPE AND THAT DESIRE ON SOMEONE SOMEWHERE THAT
11:19:48AM HELPS NOT ONE BUT MANY AT ONE TIME IS WHAT LIFE IS ALL
11:19:55AM ABOUT.
11:19:55AM BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY YOUNG ONCE, AND IF YOU DON'T LEARN IT
11:20:00AM THAT FIRST TIME, THE PROBLEM IS YOU'LL HAVE A LIFE OF
11:20:06AM MONUMENTAL.
11:20:06AM IN ALL MY EXPERIENCES, I GOT ONE PLACE AND THAT'S CALLED
11:20:12AM CUSCADEN PARK.
11:20:13AM DOESN'T REALLY EXIST ANYMORE LIKE IT WAS.
11:20:15AM THERE'S NO MORE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD THERE.
11:20:21AM THE BIG FIELD THAT THE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE WOULD PLAY IN IS
11:20:26AM GONE.
11:20:27AM ON THE NORTH SIDE, I BELIEVE THAT FENCE IS STILL THERE.
11:20:31AM THE SOFTBALL DIAMONDS ARE STILL THERE.
11:20:32AM I REMEMBER SEEING SOME OF THE MOST FANTASTIC PLACE AND TEAMS
11:20:39AM PLAY LIKE CLEARWATER BOMBERS, BEST OF CARDINALS.
11:20:41AM THE CLEARWATER BOMBERS WERE WORLD CHAMPIONS.
11:20:44AM I REMEMBER HUDLEY AND HUNTER AND THOMPSON AND INDIVIDUALS
11:20:52AM THAT COULD THROW THAT BALL SO HARD UNDERHAND, THAT IT WAS
11:20:55AM MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO HIT THAN A BASEBALL.
11:20:58AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SEE AND I REMEMBER.
11:21:07AM IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE PAST, YOU HAVE TO LIVE IT.
11:21:10AM BECAUSE IF YOU JUST HEAR IT, THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S DREAM
11:21:17AM THEY SAW, NOT YOURS.
11:21:18AM AND THIS IS A CASE WHERE SOME YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND NOT SO

11:21:26AM YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN ARE GOING TO, ONE, LIVE THEIR DREAM AND
11:21:29AM THE OTHER START REALIZING THAT IT IS A DREAM.
11:21:33AM BUT THE DREAMS DON'T LAST FOREVER.
11:21:36AM YOU ONLY GET WHAT PEOPLE TEACH YOU AND WHAT YOU SEE WITH
11:21:40AM YOUR EYES EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING
11:21:43AM ON TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT YOU BECOME A PERSON
11:21:46AM WITHOUT REALIZING THAT.
11:21:47AM THAT WILL SET YOU APART FROM SOMEBODY ELSE, LIKE JOHNNY
11:21:52AM CARSON WOULD SAY, THERE IS A FORK IN THE ROAD.
11:21:55AM WHICH FORK ARE YOU TAKING?
11:21:57AM THE RIGHT ONE OR THE WRONG ONE?
11:22:00AM WELL, THIS ONE HAS AN IDEALISTIC THAT YOU HAVE TWO RINGS IN
11:22:07AM THE PARK.
11:22:07AM NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU GO, RIGHT OR LEFT, YOU HAVE A CHANCE
11:22:10AM TO LEARN MORE AND BE SOMEBODY THAT MEETS YOUR EXPECTATION
11:22:15AM AND EXCEEDS THEM.
11:22:16AM I DIDN'T GET WHERE I'M AT BY MYSELF.
11:22:19AM I DIDN'T LEARN MUCH IN SCHOOL BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WOULD TEACH
11:22:24AM ME WHEN I WAS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHAT LIFE WAS REALLY
11:22:27AM ABOUT, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE YOUNG AND GO TO THE PARK
11:22:31AM EVERY DAY AND HAVE A NICE TIME.
11:22:33AM THAT'S FINE.
11:22:34AM BUT TEACH YOU MUCH MORE AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE HAPPENS HERE.
11:22:38AM YOU SEE A CHANGE IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT HAPPENED
11:22:42AM HERE, WHERE DO I FIT IN BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER A CHANGE

11:22:46AM THERE.
11:22:47AM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT INSPIRED ME TO DO SOMETHING
11:22:50AM ELSE, REALIZE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A DREAM UNLESS YOU TAKE
11:22:56AM ONE STEP FORWARD.
11:22:57AM TAKE THAT DREAM AND YOU GO BACKWARDS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS,
11:23:00AM YOU AIN'T COMING OUT.
11:23:02AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:23:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:23:03AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:23:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:23:06AM YEAH, TO ME, WE MET A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND I SAID IT THEN
11:23:10AM AND I'LL SAY IT NOW, THIS IS AMAZING.
11:23:12AM IT'S AMAZING TO THINK THE JOURNEY THIS PROJECT HAS MADE ON
11:23:14AM COUNCIL.
11:23:15AM IT'S GONE THROUGH SO MANY DIFFERENT VARIATIONS AND I
11:23:18AM REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP.
11:23:20AM MY RECOLLECTION IN THE BUDGET IN 2019, BY THEN COUNCILMAN
11:23:24AM GUDES TO GET A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET FOR
11:23:27AM THIS, THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD CHAMPION THIS, SO MANY,
11:23:32AM MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION I THINK HAVE DONE A
11:23:36AM WONDERFUL JOB IN CHAMPIONING THIS.
11:23:37AM NOW WE HAVE COUNCIL -- AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS DOING
11:23:40AM SUCH A GREAT JOB IN CHAMPIONING THIS AS WELL.
11:23:43AM FOR ME, THIS IS REALLY AMAZING.
11:23:45AM ALL OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED IN OUR MEETING.

11:23:47AM I'M NOT GOING TO POUR THROUGH THEM, ET CETERA, FOR THE SAKE
11:23:51AM OF TIME.
11:23:52AM THERE'S SO MUCH THERE.
11:23:53AM I KNOW THERE'S DISABILITY ACCESS ON THE PLAYGROUND WHICH IS
11:23:56AM SO IMPORTANT.
11:23:57AM GREAT EVENT SPACE.
11:23:58AM SOMETHING THAT I MENTIONED AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHEN THIS
11:24:00AM GETS UP AND RUNNING IS MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ROOMS
11:24:03AM AND NAMING THEM AFTER SOME GREAT HISTORICAL FIGURES IN EAST
11:24:07AM TAMPA, LIKE ROBERT SAUNDERS AND GARLAND STEWART AND SO MANY
11:24:16AM OTHERS SO IMPORTANT THERE.
11:24:17AM ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO MENTION WE WERE IT COMES TO EAST
11:24:20AM TAMPA RECREATION NECESSITIES IS I REMEMBER NOT LONG AGO
11:24:25AM READING THE OLD COMMISSION REPORT FROM I GUESS 1968 THAT
11:24:29AM PRESIDENT JOHNSON HAD DONE AFTER THE DISTURBANCES AFTER THE
11:24:34AM SHOOTING OF MARTIN CHAMBERS.
11:24:36AM AND TAMPA GOT ITS FACE IN THAT REPORT.
11:24:39AM ONE OF THE THINGS THEY MENTIONED THAT THE COMMISSION
11:24:42AM MENTIONED ABOUT TAMPA, ABOUT EAST TAMPA WAS THAT THERE
11:24:45AM NEEDED TO BE MORE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, MORE THINGS LIKE
11:24:49AM THIS.
11:24:50AM SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS AMAZING ABOUT THIS IS THIS HAS
11:24:53AM REALLY, REALLY BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
11:24:55AM I WAS ESPECIALLY TOUCHED BY TALKING TO THE FOLKS FROM
11:24:58AM SKANSKA WHO THE PRIDE IN WHAT YOU'VE DONE, THAT WHEN YOU SAY

11:25:04AM THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN PROUDEST TO WORK ON,
11:25:07AM WE SHARE THAT PRIDE AND SEE THAT PRIDE.
11:25:10AM IT'S SOMETHING TO TALK TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, TO
11:25:13AM GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, TO TALK TO MOMS AND DADS
11:25:16AM AND GRANDPARENTS AND YOUNG KIDS WHO ALL THEY WANT IS A SHOT
11:25:20AM FOR THEIR KIDS AND THEY KNOW IT BEGINS IN PLACES LIKE THIS.
11:25:24AM TO ME, THIS IS ABOUT RESPECT.
11:25:27AM THIS IS ABOUT DIGNITY.
11:25:29AM THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT PLACES LIKE EAST TAMPA, LIKE
11:25:31AM SULPHUR SPRINGS, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS EAST TAMPA, GET THE
11:25:35AM RESPECT AND DIGNITY THAT THEY DESERVE, THAT THEY GET THAT
11:25:39AM THIS PART OF TAMPA GETS INSTITUTIONS AND PLACES THAT ARE
11:25:43AM 100% A CLASS ACT, THAT ARE GOING TO BE AS WORTHY AND AS
11:25:48AM AMAZING AS THE HARDWORKING FAMILIES WHO MAKE UP EAST TAMPA
11:25:53AM AND THIS COMMUNITY AND ITS HISTORY AS WELL AS ITS FUTURE.
11:25:57AM I KNOW WE'LL BE TALKING LATER ON ON THE NAME CHANGE OR THE
11:26:00AM NAMING, ET CETERA.
11:26:01AM I'LL GIVE THOUGHTS ON IT.
11:26:02AM FOR ME IT IS IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:26:04AM BUT MY MAIN RULE IN THIS IS WWFHD.
11:26:09AM WHAT WOULD FRED HEARNS DO?
11:26:11AM I PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO FRED HEARNS ON THAT ISSUE.
11:26:14AM AGAIN, I WANTED TO SAY I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD
11:26:18AM WORK AND YOUR SINCERITY AND JUST YOUR EARNESTNESS IN DEALING
11:26:23AM WITH THIS.

11:26:24AM THIS IS A VERY, VERY SPECIAL PROJECT AND PROGRAM FOR A
11:26:27AM COMMUNITY THAT APPRECIATES IT, THAT WANTS IT, THAT NEEDS IT,
11:26:30AM AND THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM IT.
11:26:32AM THANK YOU GUYS AND GOD BLESS YOU.
11:26:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:26:34AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:26:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
11:26:39AM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PREVIEWED THIS PROJECT.
11:26:45AM IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO SEE THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE
11:26:49AM AND HOW MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WAS RECEIVED AND
11:26:54AM INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
11:26:57AM KUDOS TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING AND THE
11:27:02AM DESIGN ASPECTS OF IT.
11:27:03AM I'LL TAKE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SPINS ON THIS.
11:27:06AM PART OF IT IS THE MONEY.
11:27:08AM I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE MONEY AND
11:27:10AM BONDING.
11:27:11AM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE
11:27:14AM WE HAVE FUTURE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND -- OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF
11:27:17AM THIS WILL HAVE TO BE BONDED BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE
11:27:20AM ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL TO LOOK FOR WAYS AND FIND
11:27:23AM SAVINGS IN OUR BUDGET, NOT JUST THIS YEAR, BUT THE NEXT TWO
11:27:27AM CYCLES TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE COST OF BONDING THIS,
11:27:30AM LOOKING AT THE CRAs TO SEE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL
11:27:33AM EXPENDITURES THAT CAN BE FUNNELED FROM THE CRA TO REDUCE THE

11:27:36AM COST OF BONDING WHICH, OF COURSE, CASH VERSUS CREDIT, AT THE
11:27:41AM INTEREST RATES WE'RE PAYING WILL ULTIMATELY PAY DIVIDENDS TO
11:27:43AM EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE TAXPAYERS THAT LIVE WITHIN THIS
11:27:46AM COMMUNITY.
11:27:46AM IT IS A TREMENDOUS PROJECT.
11:27:49AM AND THANKS TO THE FOLKS IN JACKSON HEIGHTS AND THE FRAN
11:27:54AM TATE'S OF THE WORLD, HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS AND THE
11:27:58AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, FOR THEIR INPUT, AND THE JAZZY
11:28:00AM SENIORS; THEY WERE OUT THERE IN FORCE ADVOCATING FOR THEIR
11:28:03AM WANTS, NEEDS, AND DESIRES.
11:28:04AM ON THE NAME CHANGE, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE COMING UP
11:28:09AM ON THE APRIL 4th AGENDA TO DISCUSS THIS.
11:28:11AM CURRENTLY TO GIVE YOU SOME SOLACE, WE HAVE A MORATORIUM ON
11:28:16AM CHANGING NAMES.
11:28:17AM AS BEST I CAN TELL IT IS CALLED FAIR OAKS RIGHT NOW.
11:28:20AM UNTIL SOMEBODY CHANGES THE NAME, IT'S FAIR OAKS, AT LEAST IS
11:28:24AM THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT THAT.
11:28:26AM CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL.
11:28:28AM NOT JUST THE FOLKS WITHIN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO THE PARK.
11:28:31AM THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE CROWN JEWELS FOR THE ENTIRE
11:28:34AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:28:35AM THIS IS NOT JUST AN AMENITY FOR A FEW PEOPLE THAT LIVE
11:28:39AM WITHIN THIS AREA.
11:28:40AM THIS WILL BE SOMETHING WE CAN HOLD EVENTS IN.
11:28:43AM IT WILL BE BASICALLY A COMMUNITY LIVING ROOM FOR THE CITY OF

11:28:46AM TAMPA.
11:28:47AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:28:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:28:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:28:51AM I REALLY AM IMPRESSED ON HOW THE DEVELOPERS REALLY LISTENED
11:28:59AM TO THE COMMUNITY, EVEN AFTER THEY PRESENTED A FINAL, THEY
11:29:03AM WERE ABLE TO CHANGE SOME THINGS, THINGS THAT WE KNEW WERE
11:29:07AM IMPORTANT, ADDING AN OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURT SO FOLKS COULD
11:29:10AM PLAY WHETHER OR NOT THE REC CENTER IS OPEN IS VERY IMPORTANT
11:29:14AM AND ALSO SINCE THAT INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT IS ALSO GOING TO
11:29:17AM BE USED FOR GYMNASTICS THERE WILL BE TIMES PEOPLE WILL WANT
11:29:22AM TO PLAY.
11:29:22AM I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
11:29:23AM I ALSO LOVE THE COMBINING OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THE SPLASH
11:29:27AM PAD WITH A FENCE TO GO AROUND THE ENTIRE AREA SO PARENTS CAN
11:29:34AM KEEP AN EYE ON THEIR KIDS REGARDLESS OF WHICH PART OF THE
11:29:36AM PARK THEY ARE IN.
11:29:37AM I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
11:29:38AM I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE 30% GOAL BECAUSE TO ME, A GOAL
11:29:44AM AND A REQUIREMENT ARE DIFFERENT WORDS.
11:29:47AM COULD YOU EXTRAPOLATE A LITTLE BIT.
11:29:51AM WHEN YOU SAY 30% GOAL, IS THAT REALLY A GOAL OR IS THAT
11:29:55AM GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT?
11:29:56AM IN EBO PARTICIPATION.
11:30:00AM >> WELL, IT'S A GOAL.

11:30:05AM AND WE ENCOURAGE -- AND SKANSKA HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING IN
11:30:12AM MINORITY SUBCONTRACTORS PARTICIPATING IN THEIR PROJECTS.
11:30:18AM IF THEY CAN'T REACH THE 30%, THEN WHAT THEY'LL DO IS USE AN
11:30:28AM ANCILLARY PROCESS TO ACQUIRE MORE SUBCONTRACTORS IN THE
11:30:34AM PROJECT.
11:30:34AM BUT THE GOAL IS 30% AND WE REQUIRE SOME SIGNIFICANT
11:30:41AM SUBSTANTIATION IF THAT CAN'T BE REACHED.
11:30:46AM BUT WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT WITH THE ANCILLARY PROCESS AND
11:30:49AM SKANSKA'S HISTORY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET THAT GOAL.
11:30:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW WILL THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL BE ABLE TO
11:30:57AM FOLLOW THAT?
11:30:59AM >> WE USE A PROGRAM CALLED BDG NOW.
11:31:02AM AND WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THE PRIME TO ENTER THE
11:31:09AM SUBCONTRACTORS' PAYMENTS IN THAT SYSTEM AND THEN EVERYONE
11:31:12AM CAN FOLLOW IT.
11:31:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WILL THAT BE ON THE WEBSITE THAT IS DEDICATED
11:31:16AM TO THIS PARK SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN EASILY FIND IT?
11:31:21AM >> YES, IT WILL BE.
11:31:23AM AND WE HAVE BDG AVAILABLE NOW ON OUR WEBSITE, SO WE'RE VERY
11:31:30AM TRANSPARENT IN THIS PROCESS AND SKANSKA, LIKE I SAID, HAS
11:31:35AM BEEN JUST GREAT.
11:31:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE WILL BE A LINK ON THE PARK WEBSITE.
11:31:40AM >> YES.
11:31:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THAT FOLKS CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
11:31:43AM AND JUST TO ASK TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A

11:31:46AM QUESTION, THE PUBLIC WILL WANT TO KNOW WHEN DO YOU EXPECT
11:31:48AM THAT WEBSITE TO BE LIVE AND/OR WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT
11:31:52AM PORTION OF IT TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC?
11:31:56AM >> WELL, WE'LL GET WORKING WITH T AND I STRAIGHT AWAY AND
11:32:00AM HAVE THAT AVAILABLE AS SOON AS ACTIVITY STARTS IN THE
11:32:04AM CONSTRUCTION.
11:32:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:32:05AM AND THAT IS PREDICTED TO BE A MONTH FROM NOW, TWO MONTHS
11:32:11AM FROM NOW?
11:32:11AM MR. MULKEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF IDEA?
11:32:15AM >>TONY MULKEY: PARKS AND RECREATION. IF COUNCIL ADVANCES
11:32:18AM THIS, WE'RE READY TO ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED ALMOST
11:32:21AM IMMEDIATELY.
11:32:22AM AND WE WOULD BREAK GROUND.
11:32:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:32:25AM I KNOW WE HAVE AN APPROVAL DATE TO BE MARCH 28.
11:32:30AM THEN I WOULD EXPECT BY THE BEGINNING OF MAY FOR THAT TO BE
11:32:33AM AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
11:32:35AM >> I WOULD HOPE SO.
11:32:36AM WE'RE WORKING WITH JANELLE McGREGOR FROM COMMUNITY
11:32:41AM PARTNERSHIPS, AND SHE'S WORKING WITH THE NEW PLATFORM THAT
11:32:45AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN STREAMLINE THAT INFORMATION GETTING TO THE
11:32:48AM PUBLIC.
11:32:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:32:49AM GREAT.

11:32:50AM THEN THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER OR A COUPLE OF OTHER CONCERNS
11:32:55AM THAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD.
11:32:57AM OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A NAME BECAUSE WE HAVE A
11:33:00AM WHOLE NAMING DISCUSSION THAT'S COMING UP ON APRIL 4th.
11:33:04AM I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE PUBLIC COME OUT FOR THAT DISCUSSION
11:33:07AM BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL BE
11:33:09AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.
11:33:10AM I AGREE, IT REALLY SHOULD BE UP TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:33:14AM I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE BUILDING BEING A
11:33:18AM LOBBY.
11:33:19AM I MEAN, IT LOOKS ABOUT A QUARTER OF IT.
11:33:21AM TO ME THAT IS A LOT OF WASTED SPACE.
11:33:24AM I KNOW THAT LIKE EVERY REC CENTER THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN
11:33:27AM OUT OF SPACE.
11:33:28AM SO I'M HOPING THAT THERE ARE SECONDARY PLANS FOR FILLING
11:33:33AM THAT SPACE WITH ACTUAL PROGRAMMING.
11:33:37AM BECAUSE TO HAVE A QUARTER OF THE BUILDING BE NOTHING BUT A
11:33:41AM LOBBY IS NOT A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND NOT A GOOD
11:33:45AM USE OF JUST SPACE IN GENERAL.
11:33:47AM ALSO, I KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO SEPARATE THE SENIOR
11:33:55AM SPACE AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE IT IS SO
11:33:59AM IMPORTANT, THE SENIORS WERE REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT A SEPARATE
11:34:03AM SPACE AND BECAUSE WE COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT DUE TO COSTS,
11:34:06AM WE REALLY DO WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO FEEL SEPARATE AND LIKE
11:34:11AM THEIR SPACE IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE YOUTH.

11:34:16AM THAT WAS THEIR GOAL TO JUST HAVE SOME SEPARATION.
11:34:20AM THERE'S GOING TO BE WONDERFUL THINGS FOR YOUTH ALL
11:34:22AM THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE PARK.
11:34:24AM THIS WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THIS MAINTAINS A SAFE AND
11:34:27AM SEPARATE SPACE FOR OUR SENIORS.
11:34:30AM SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
11:34:33AM I COMMEND -- THE PARK IS BEAUTIFUL.
11:34:36AM THE GOALS, EVERYTHING.
11:34:39AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE GRAND OPENING.
11:34:42AM I AM JUST THRILLED THAT THIS IS COMING.
11:34:44AM I DO APPRECIATE ALSO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING DOWN THE
11:34:47AM COST SOMEWHAT.
11:34:48AM SO THANK YOU.
11:34:50AM >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, JUST ONE QUICK RESPONSE ON SOME OF
11:34:52AM THOSE.
11:34:53AM WE'VE HEARD THAT FEEDBACK QUITE A BIT.
11:34:56AM WE PLAN ON UTILIZING THAT SPACE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT
11:34:59AM FUNCTIONS AND BEING ABLE TO CONFIGURE IT SO THAT THE SENIORS
11:35:03AM DEFINITELY HAVE THEIR DEDICATED SPACE.
11:35:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:35:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, IN REGARD TO TIME, I HAVE TWO OR
11:35:13AM THREE MINUTES OF COMMENTS, BUT THEN I HAVE A BUNCH OF
11:35:16AM QUESTIONS.
11:35:17AM I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME LEEWAY ON THAT.
11:35:18AM I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO HEAR ANSWERS TO THE

11:35:21AM QUESTIONS.
11:35:21AM I OPTED NOT TO MEET PRIVATELY BECAUSE I WANTED THE ANSWERS
11:35:25AM TO MY QUESTIONS MADE PUBLIC SO THE PUBLIC COULD HEAR THEM.
11:35:29AM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THERE ARE TWO READINGS OF THIS.
11:35:32AM WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT SAID ANY ITEM
11:35:35AM ABOVE 20 MILLION HAS TO BE HEARD TWICE LIKE LAND USE ISSUES.
11:35:38AM WE'RE NOT VOTING TODAY.
11:35:39AM WE WOULD VOTE I THINK YOU SAID MARCH 28.
11:35:42AM THAT IS THE DATE WE ACTUALLY WOULD VOTE ON IT.
11:35:45AM ANY COMMENTS TODAY ARE MERELY TO GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
11:35:47AM AND TO SHED LIGHT ON THIS SO THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE
11:35:51AM TRANSPARENCY INTO THIS.
11:35:52AM IN REGARD TO WHAT WE DO ON COUNCIL, I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
11:35:59AM VIERA REPRESENTS NORTH TAMPA.
11:36:01AM MIRANDA REPRESENTS WEST TAMPA.
11:36:02AM HENDERSON REPRESENTS EAST TAMPA.
11:36:04AM BUT WE ALL VOTE ON ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:36:07AM I SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN EAST TAMPA.
11:36:09AM SOME PEOPLE APPRECIATE US SHOWING UP IN OTHER DISTRICTS,
11:36:12AM SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
11:36:13AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON'S AIDE CAME TO A
11:36:17AM MEETING AT HYDE PARK IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:36:21AM I WANT TO THANK HER AND HER AIDE FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S
11:36:25AM IMPORTANT WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES GOING ON IN DIFFERENT
11:36:27AM PARTS OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE

11:36:29AM ENTIRE CITY.
11:36:30AM THE NAME CHANGE, I ALWAYS CALLED IT FAIR OAKS.
11:36:33AM THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SOME REASON CHANGED THE NAME IN THEIR
11:36:36AM REFERENCE TWO, THREE YEARS AGO.
11:36:38AM THAT WAS NOT A DECISION OF CITY COUNCIL.
11:36:40AM WE CAN DEBATE WHETHER CITY COUNCIL CAN CHANGE IT
11:36:45AM UNILATERALLY OR NOT.
11:36:46AM I'LL CONTINUE TO CALL IT FAIR OAKS.
11:36:49AM MY AIDE IS HERE.
11:36:51AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SPIN, SOME OF IT BY AGENTS OF THE
11:36:55AM CONTRACTORS WHO HAVE PUT OUT MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS IN
11:36:58AM THE PUBLIC AND MISINFORMATION IN PARTICULAR ABOUT MY
11:37:02AM INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT.
11:37:03AM COULD YOU PUT THAT?
11:37:04AM I'VE GOT THREE ARTICLES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PASS OUT TO MY
11:37:07AM COLLEAGUES.
11:37:07AM THE FIRST ARTICLE IS -- MAYBE SHOW THE FRONT OF THE ARTICLE.
11:37:18AM THE ARTICLE IS FROM THE TAMPA BAY TIMES 2019, DECEMBER.
11:37:22AM IF YOU GO BACK, WE HAD, AS PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC SAID,
11:37:26AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHEN I FIRST STARTED A FEW MONTHS
11:37:29AM BEFORE THIS, CAME ALMOST EVERY WEEK ASKING US TO DO
11:37:32AM SOMETHING ABOUT FAIR OAKS PARK.
11:37:33AM WE AS A CRA BOARD, CITY COUNCIL SITTING AS CRA BOARD AND
11:37:39AM READ THE QUOTE AT THE TOP WE SET UP A PUBLIC MEETING.
11:37:42AM IT WAS NOT THE ADMINISTRATION.

11:37:44AM CITY COUNCIL DID IT SITTING AS THE CRA.
11:37:47AM A QUOTE BY ME, COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON AGREED RESIDENTS
11:37:50AM SHOULD BE FULLY CONSULTED ABOUT ANY PROPOSED CHANGES.
11:37:53AM IT SAYS ALTHOUGH I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA I THOUGHT EAST
11:37:56AM TAMPA SHOULD BE COMMUNICATED WITH.
11:37:58AM AS FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO SAID, THREE OF US, GUDES,
11:38:02AM CITRO, AND I WENT TO THE MEETING.
11:38:04AM SWITCH TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
11:38:06AM I MADE A MOTION FOR 200,000 AT THE CRA BOARD WHICH CRA
11:38:12AM AGREED TO WITHOUT ANY OTHER ESTIMATES.
11:38:14AM KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PRIOR MAYOR TURNED DOWN TWICE 375,000
11:38:18AM TO RENOVATE IT AND MAYOR CASTOR ALSO HAD TURNED DOWN OR
11:38:22AM REJECTED IDEAS OF RENOVATING THE BUILDING.
11:38:25AM I MADE A MOTION FOR 200,000.
11:38:27AM THEN WE HELD THE MEETING, THE PUBLIC MEETING.
11:38:29AM AND IN THE MEETING, THE PUBLIC CLEARLY CAME AND YOU CAN SEE
11:38:32AM THE VIDEO LINKED TO THE TIMES ARTICLE, THE PUBLIC CAME AND
11:38:36AM SAID WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE RENOVATED.
11:38:38AM THE MAYOR PRESENTED A VIDEO THAT SAID THAT, SAID BEFORE
11:38:44AM SUITER SPOKE FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, MAYOR CASTOR AT A
11:38:48AM NATIONAL MAYOR CONFERENCE PROMISED TO FAST TRACK REPAIRS IN
11:38:51AM A BRIEF VIDEO MESSAGE WHICH SHE ACKNOWLEDGED THE PARK HAD
11:38:54AM FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACKS.
11:38:56AM CITY COUNCIL MADE THE INITIATIVE TO HOLD A MEETING, SET UP
11:38:59AM MONEY AND THE ADMINISTRATION SAID WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE

11:39:01AM IT.
11:39:02AM YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO.
11:39:03AM THE PUBLIC BOOED.
11:39:04AM SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TODAY, INCLUDING BISHOP PATTY
11:39:08AM WERE THERE THAT DAY AND WERE CRITICAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION
11:39:11AM FOR NOT MOVING FORWARD.
11:39:12AM WE -- CRA BOARD ASKED PARKS DEPARTMENT HOW MUCH IT WOULD
11:39:16AM COST.
11:39:16AM MAYBE IN THE $3.5 MILLION RANGE.
11:39:18AM AND THEN IT SAYS HERE THE DAY AFTER THE MEETING, AFTER THE
11:39:21AM PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC CLEARLY SAID THEY WANTED --
11:39:24AM CASTOR SPOKES WOMAN CONFIRMED THAT THE MAYOR REMAINS IN
11:39:28AM FAVOR OF RENOVATION, NOT A NEW CENTER.
11:39:30AM THAT WAS ABOUT BUILDING A NEW BUILDING, NOT EVEN BUILDING A
11:39:33AM NEW PARK.
11:39:33AM WE CONTINUE TO PUSH AND SAID ON THE NEXT PAGE, CARLSON SAYS
11:39:39AM THAT'S FAVOR.
11:39:39AM I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
11:39:41AM SAID I WAS IN FAVOR OF A NEW BUILDING.
11:39:43AM SEVERAL OF US STARTED PUSHING FOR FOUR TO FIVE MILLION
11:39:45AM DOLLARS.
11:39:46AM ONLY FAIR AND EQUITABLE THING.
11:39:48AM CONTRIBUTE WHAT WE CAN TO RIGHT THE WRONG AND THE COMMUNITY
11:39:51AM IS ASKING FOR A NEW BUILDING.
11:39:52AM THE NEXT ARTICLE IS THAT THE MAYOR AFTER STALLING AND

11:39:55AM STALLING FOR A FEW MONTHS CAME BACK AND PROPOSED 18 MILLION.
11:39:59AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE QUOTE OF ME IN THIS ARTICLE, SAYS COUNCIL
11:40:02AM MEMBER BILL CARLSON KEPT THE CENTER'S PLIGHT ON CITY
11:40:05AM COUNCIL'S RADAR WITH NEAR CONSTANT REFERENCES TO IT BEING
11:40:09AM MADE TO THE RODENT INFESTATION AND SAYS THAT THE
11:40:13AM ADMINISTRATION DENIED THAT, ALTHOUGH THEY FOUND ONE.
11:40:16AM THE QUESTION FOR EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY --
11:40:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOUR TIME IS UP.
11:40:20AM IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION --
11:40:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE --
11:40:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE HIM TWO MORE MINUTES.
11:40:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN
11:40:32AM TWO MINUTES.
11:40:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GIVE WHATEVER HE NEEDS --
11:40:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FINISH IT UP.
11:40:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEXT TWO SLIDES WHICH WILL END MY
11:40:39AM NARRATIVE.
11:40:40AM THE PUBLIC WAS NEVER ASKED.
11:40:42AM WE HAVE NEEDS IN ALL THE PARKS IN EAST TAMPA AND THE PUBLIC
11:40:44AM WAS NEVER ASKED DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD SPEND 50 OR 100
11:40:48AM MILLION ON ONE PARK VERSUS THE REST OF THE PARKS.
11:40:51AM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE NEAR THIS PARK AND WOULD
11:40:55AM LIKE TO HAVE THEIR PARKS DONE.
11:40:57AM THIS WILL BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PARK EVER.
11:40:59AM CITY DENIED OTHER PARKS IN EAST TAMPA.

11:41:01AM NOT ABOUT EAST TAMPA VERSUS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:41:03AM SHOULD WE HAVE RENOVATED MANY PARKS OR JUST DO ONE.
11:41:06AM THE NEXT SLIDE WAS PRESENTED LAST WEEK BY THE STAFF AT THE
11:41:08AM HOUSING THING, WE KNOW WE'RE AT LEAST 26,000 UNITS SHORT IN
11:41:12AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THE PUBLIC IS SAYING THAT THEY WANT
11:41:15AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SPENDING A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON A
11:41:19AM PARK, THE CITY DID NOT ASK THE PUBLIC WHETHER THEY WANTED TO
11:41:22AM SPEND IT ON HOUSING OR ON A PARK.
11:41:24AM MY QUESTIONS, I WILL ASK THE STAFF, WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST
11:41:30AM OF THIS PROJECT TODAY?
11:41:31AM YOU BOUGHT SOME LAND, PENNY SAVER, SKANSKA WAS PAID FOR
11:41:35AM DESIGN.
11:41:36AM THIS IS ONLY APPROVAL FOR 37 MILLION BUT THAT'S NOT THE
11:41:39AM ENTIRE COST THAT HAS BEEN SPENT TO DATE.
11:41:41AM BY THE END OF THE 37 MILLION, HOW MUCH TOTAL WILL THE CITY
11:41:44AM HAVE SPENT ON THIS?
11:41:48AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:41:51AM IF I COULD BACK UP, OF COURSE, THE ITEM BEING ASKED FOR
11:41:56AM APPROVAL TODAY IS THE CONTRACT ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION
11:42:00AM 34ISH MILLION DOLLARS.
11:42:01AM AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AND AS IS IN THE CAPITAL
11:42:05AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THE APPROPRIATED AMOUNT IS A LITTLE OVER
11:42:08AM $41 MILLION.
11:42:10AM WHAT WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, AND I HAVE THE DETAIL
11:42:13AM FOR YOU, TO DATE ARE THE INTEREST COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

11:42:18AM PARK SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO ISSUE DEBT.
11:42:20AM AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO ISSUE DEBT TODAY --
11:42:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE THEY CUT ME OFF, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW
11:42:28AM MUCH WE HAVE SPENT TODAY ON IT BEFORE WE APPROVE THE AMOUNT
11:42:31AM TODAY, INCLUDING LAND ACQUISITION, SKANSKA --
11:42:33AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ACTUAL SPENT.
11:42:35AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:42:37AM I WILL REMIND COUNCIL REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED
11:42:40AM TO ALLOW US TO SPEND -- ABOUT $3.5 MILLION HAS BEEN SPENT TO
11:42:44AM DATE.
11:42:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT INCLUDES ACQUISITION OF LAND AND ALL
11:42:47AM THE CONSULTANTS AND DESIGN TODAY.
11:42:48AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:42:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDING THIS AMOUNT WE APPROVE TODAY --
11:42:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE APPROVE IT AT THE END OF THE MONTH,
11:42:55AM NOT TODAY.
11:42:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHEN AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS ITEM, THE
11:42:59AM TOTAL WILL BE THE $41 MILLION PLUS THAT'S IN THE BUDGET
11:43:06AM RIGHT NOW.
11:43:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, I WANT TO KEEP
11:43:08AM IN MIND ORIGINALLY I PROPOSED 200,000.
11:43:11AM THEN WE RAISED IT TO 3.5 TO 5 MILLION.
11:43:14AM THEN THE MAYOR STEPPED IN AND SAID 18 MILLION.
11:43:17AM WE CANNOT FIND FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT CITY COUNCIL
11:43:19AM APPROVED THE 18.

11:43:20AM DID NOT APPROVE THE 41.
11:43:22AM WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS WILL COST IN THE FUTURE.
11:43:24AM HOW MUCH IS THE BOND -- HOW MUCH OF IT WILL BE BONDED AND
11:43:27AM HOW MUCH IS THE INTEREST ON IT?
11:43:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW ABOUT $28
11:43:31AM MILLION.
11:43:32AM ALL TOLD, AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE THE QUESTION
11:43:35AM WILL LEAD, WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED TOTAL COST FOR THIS
11:43:38AM PROJECT?
11:43:39AM ABOUT $70 MILLION AT THE END OF THE 30-YEAR BOND PERIOD.
11:43:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: BONDING ALL 41 OR PART.
11:43:46AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, ABOUT $35 MILLION WE
11:43:49AM ANTICIPATE.
11:43:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: 30-YEAR BONDS, RIGHT?
11:43:52AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:43:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH WILL THE INCREASE TO O AND M BE ON
11:43:56AM THIS PARK OVER A 20- OR 30-YEAR PERIOD, OR YOU COULD TELL ME
11:43:58AM ANNUALLY, IF YOU WANT.
11:43:58AM THAT'S OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
11:44:02AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT MR. MULKEY HAS THAT.
11:44:05AM >>TONY MULKEY: PARKS AND RECREATION.
11:44:06AM ESTIMATES AT THIS POINT FOR THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE
11:44:14AM OF THE SITE ARE APPROXIMATELY 700,000.
11:44:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH TODAY?
11:44:18AM NET OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING TODAY?

11:44:21AM >>TONY MULKEY: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING TODAY.
11:44:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE DECREASE WITH THE NEW
11:44:25AM FACILITIES, PERSONNEL, MAINTENANCE, EVERYTHING?
11:44:28AM >>TONY MULKEY: INCREASE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILLION.
11:44:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT WILL BE 2 MILLION TOTAL?
11:44:33AM >>TONY MULKEY: JUST UNDER.
11:44:35AM JUST UNDER ON THAT.
11:44:37AM ANNUALLY.
11:44:38AM CORRECT.
11:44:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: 1.5.
11:44:40AM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THEN?
11:44:41AM 1.3 MILLION IS THE DIFFERENCE?
11:44:43AM SO THAT TIMES 30 YEARS IS ABOUT 40 MILLION, PLUS OR MINUS,
11:44:47AM 35 OR 40 MILLION.
11:44:50AM IT'S A DECISION.
11:44:51AM THERE ARE MULTIPLE -- YOU SAID 70 SOMETHING MILLION IS
11:44:55AM INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL, BUT 35, 40 MILLION ON O AND M
11:45:00AM INCREASE.
11:45:00AM I'M NOT MAKING A JUDGMENT ON WHETHER IT'S WORTH IT OR NOT.
11:45:03AM WE'RE NOT MAKING $34 MILLION DECISION.
11:45:06AM WE'RE MAKING A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS DECISION WHEN WE MEET
11:45:09AM ON MARCH 28.
11:45:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE HELPFUL.
11:45:14AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR BRIEFING.
11:45:17AM I'M A VISUAL LEARNER.

11:45:19AM RATHER THAN THROWING A BUNCH OF NUMBERS --
11:45:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ADD THE O AND M, 1.3
11:45:26AM OR 4 MILLION AND THEN THE INCREASE OF IT OVER 30 YEARS LIKE
11:45:33AM ANOTHER 30, 40 MILLION.
11:45:34AM ADDS UP TO A HUNDRED MILLION TOTAL.
11:45:36AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ALL CAN SEE THIS, RIGHT?
11:45:39AM >> YES.
11:45:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOST EXPENSIVE PARK BUILT TO DATE IS
11:45:43AM JULIAN LANE, SOMETHING LIKE 32.
11:45:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 36.
11:45:46AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE 36 JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
11:45:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WAS NOT BONDED, RIGHT?
11:45:50AM THAT CAME FROM GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS.
11:45:53AM DO YOU KNOW -- I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN RFQ BUT DID ANYONE
11:45:58AM DO AN RFP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ON THIS?
11:46:00AM WHICH DEPARTMENT HANDLED IT?
11:46:04AM DID THE DEPARTMENT HANDLE IT?
11:46:05AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION HANDLE IT?
11:46:07AM PURCHASING HANDLE IT?
11:46:08AM WHO HANDLED IT AND WAS THERE AN RFP WHERE THERE WERE OTHER
11:46:12AM BIDDERS?
11:46:12AM 34.5 MILLION HOW DO WE KNOW IS A GOOD PRICE?
11:46:16AM RFQ MEANS YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR QUALIFICATIONS AND THE PER
11:46:19AM UNIT RATE BUT NOT SHOWING THE TOTAL COST.
11:46:22AM HOW DO WE KNOW WE COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN A BETTER COST AND

11:46:25AM WHAT DEPARTMENT HANDLED THAT?
11:46:27AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:46:30AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:46:31AM THIS WAS HANDLED BY THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
11:46:33AM WITH AN RFQ.
11:46:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: AN RFP WAS NOT HELD.
11:46:38AM ANY OTHER BIDS PUT OUT THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THIS WITH THE
11:46:43AM ENTIRE PRICE OR JUST AN RFQ ON UNIT PER COST?
11:46:46AM >>BRAD BAIRD: RFQ FOR THE PROJECT, FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT,
11:46:50AM DESIGN-BUILD, AND I FORGET HOW MANY TEAMS WE HAD SUBMIT.
11:46:56AM EIGHT TEAMS SUBMITTED.
11:46:57AM WE SHORT-LISTED THOSE.
11:46:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WERE THE CLOSEST PRICES TO 34.5
11:47:02AM MILLION?
11:47:04AM >>BRAD BAIRD: AN RFQ IS BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS.
11:47:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: RIGHT.
11:47:07AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER.
11:47:08AM THERE WAS NO RFP.
11:47:10AM ALL WE HAVE IS QUALIFICATIONS.
11:47:11AM NEVER AN RFP TO SEE IF 34.5 MILLION IS A GOOD PRICE OR NOT.
11:47:16AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:47:17AM HOWEVER, THE TEAMS DO BID, PUT OUT BID PACKAGES WITH THE
11:47:21AM SUBCONTRACTORS AND SUBCONSULTANTS.
11:47:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I UNDERSTAND THE WAY THESE DESIGN-BUILD
11:47:25AM CONTRACTS ARE HELD, THE CONTRACTOR GETS A PERCENTAGE PLUS

11:47:29AM THEY HIRE SUBS.
11:47:31AM AS I READ IN THE CONTRACT, THEY ARE NEGOTIATING THE DEALS
11:47:34AM WITH THE SUBS.
11:47:35AM ARE THEY ALLOWED TO TAKE PERCENTAGES OR COMMISSIONS FROM THE
11:47:39AM SUB OR MARK IT UP OR DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT AT COST?
11:47:42AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THEY HAVE A FEE AND GENERAL CONDITIONS THAT
11:47:47AM ARE TACKED ON TOP OF THE SUBCONTRACTOR PRICES --
11:47:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEW RULES FOR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
11:47:56AM THAT YOU AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION WORKED ON, THERE IS A
11:47:59AM NEW RULE TO STOP THE HANNA AVENUE WORK AROUND THAT SAYS IF A
11:48:04AM BUDGET GOES ABOVE 50% INCREASE THAT IT HAS TO BE PUT OUT FOR
11:48:08AM RFP AGAIN, THIS OBVIOUSLY, YOU COULD SAY ORIGINALLY 5
11:48:12AM MILLION, THEN 18 MILLION.
11:48:14AM NOW IT'S MORE THAN 50%, ABOVE 18 MILLION.
11:48:18AM THERE WAS NO RFP HELD FOLLOWING THAT RULE, CORRECT?
11:48:22AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THE ESTIMATE IN THE RFQ WAS 40 TO 60 MILLION
11:48:26AM DOLLAR RANGE.
11:48:27AM ACTUALLY, AS PART OF SKANSKA'S PRESENTATION, THEY GUARANTEED
11:48:31AM THEY WOULD COME IN WITH A GMP UNDER 35 MILLION.
11:48:36AM THEY HAVE DONE THAT.
11:48:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH GMP, IT MEANS THEY ARE GUARANTEEING
11:48:40AM MAXIMUM PRICE.
11:48:41AM OTHER CASES LIKE HANNA AVENUE, KEPT GOING UP, UP, UP,
11:48:45AM BECAUSE THERE IS A SECTION IN THE CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS FOR
11:48:47AM CHANGE ORDERS.

11:48:48AM WHAT GUARANTEE DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE THIS WON'T COST 50 TO 60
11:48:53AM MILLION IN ADDITION TO INTEREST AND O AND M.
11:48:57AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE
11:48:59AM IT.
11:49:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT CAN STILL CHANGE WITH A CHANGE ORDER,
11:49:03AM CORRECT?
11:49:03AM >>BRAD BAIRD: ONLY IF THE CITY AGREES TO IT.
11:49:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU NEED, COUNCILMAN
11:49:07AM CARLSON?
11:49:08AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON HAS YET --
11:49:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON MINORITY PARTICIPATION, THE FEEDBACK I'VE
11:49:18AM GOTTEN IS 30% IS VERY LOW.
11:49:20AM WE TALKED ABOUT MINORITY -- WHY IS IT NOT HIGHER?
11:49:24AM ALSO, HOW MUCH OF THE 30% IS BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES VERSUS
11:49:27AM JUST OTHER MINORITIES?
11:49:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WILL BE THE LAST QUESTION.
11:49:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK ONE MORE.
11:49:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WILL BE THE LAST QUESTION.
11:49:34AM THANK YOU.
11:49:44AM >> BASED ON OUR 30% GOAL SET, 10% ARE BLACK-OWNED
11:49:52AM BUSINESSES.
11:49:52AM AND 20% ARE A SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.
11:49:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST QUESTION, AND THIS IS A QUESTION
11:50:01AM BECAUSE WE GET THIS BECAUSE OF PROJECTS LIKE HANNA AVENUE
11:50:04AM AND OTHERS, SORRY I HAVE TO ASK THIS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC

11:50:08AM KEEPS ASKING, HAVE ANY STAFF OR CITY OFFICIALS DISCLOSED A
11:50:11AM CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR ANY PERSONAL FAMILY CONNECTIONS TO
11:50:14AM THIS VENDOR OR PROJECT?
11:50:15AM IF SO, WHAT OR WHOM?
11:50:23AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:50:25AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:50:25AM NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
11:50:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:50:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:50:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
11:50:31AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:50:33AM I'M SO GLAD I HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE ELSE SPEAK
11:50:37AM CONSIDERING THAT THIS PROJECT IS IN MY DISTRICT I AM FIRST
11:50:42AM WANTING TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK ON
11:50:45AM BEHALF OF THE STAFF AS WELL AS SKANSKA THAT HAS GONE INTO
11:50:48AM THE PROJECT.
11:50:49AM THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:50:50AM THE INPUT WAS EXTREMELY WELL THOUGHT OUT.
11:50:54AM THEIR INPUT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND NOT ONLY
11:50:58AM TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED INTO THE
11:51:03AM DESIGN THAT IS BEFORE US.
11:51:04AM EVEN THE ONE, ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS
11:51:09AM WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BIRD POOP ON BENCHES AND SOME OF THE
11:51:13AM BENCHES ARE COVERED BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:51:15AM THE JAZZY SENIORS, THEY WANTED SEPARATE ROOMS SO THAT IF

11:51:19AM SOMEONE IS LINE DANCING, THEY CAN STILL PLAY CARDS.
11:51:22AM SO THEY PUT UP THE PARTITIONS BUT YET IT IS ALSO VERY
11:51:26AM IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN OPEN SPACE SO WHEN THEY WANT TO HAVE
11:51:29AM LARGER EVENTS THEY HAVE ROOM TO DO THAT.
11:51:31AM THE BASKETBALL COURT, THE KIDS DIDN'T WANT THE BASKETBALL
11:51:34AM COURT OUTSIDE, BUT WHEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL AND THE ADULTS
11:51:38AM CAME IN THE ROOM, THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT.
11:51:41AM BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
11:51:42AM THE KIDS DID NOT WANT A BASKETBALL COURT OUTSIDE, BUT WE PUT
11:51:47AM ONE THERE ANYWAY, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS IMPORTANT.
11:51:49AM AFTER HOURS WHEN THE CENTER IS CLOSED, THEY CAN PLAY
11:51:52AM BASKETBALL OUTSIDE.
11:51:53AM SO THAT WILL BENEFIT THEM AND THEY WILL SEE THAT IS A VERY,
11:51:57AM VERY GOOD BENEFIT.
11:51:58AM THE LOBBY.
11:52:00AM THE LOBBY, THIS IS A 32,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING, CORRECT?
11:52:03AM 34.
11:52:05AM 34,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING.
11:52:07AM THE LOBBY HAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO BE AN EVENT
11:52:12AM SPACE.
11:52:12AM IT'S NOT JUST A LOBBY.
11:52:15AM THE RECREATION LEADERS WHO ALSO I BELIEVE SKANSKA SAID TO
11:52:20AM ME, WE WISH WE WOULD HAVE TALKED TO THE WORKERS FIRST.
11:52:23AM THAT'S LIKE TALKING TO TEACHERS.
11:52:25AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE ANSWERS.

11:52:27AM THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE SOME VERY, VERY VALUABLE INPUT IN
11:52:31AM TERMS OF SIGHT LINE AND HOW THAT AREA IS BUILT SO THAT THEY
11:52:35AM HAVE A SAFETY -- THEY HAVE SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE BECAUSE
11:52:40AM THEY CAN SEE EVERY ASPECT OF THAT 34,000-SQUARE-FOOT
11:52:44AM BUILDING.
11:52:44AM THE INPUT HAS BEEN THERE.
11:52:46AM IN TERMS OF THE MONEY, MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU COME BACK TO THE
11:52:53AM PODIUM SO WE CAN CLEAR THIS UP?
11:52:54AM I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER TOO MUCH HISTORY.
11:52:57AM THREE ACRE PARK, THEN A TEN ACRE PARK.
11:53:00AM YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT TAPES.
11:53:02AM I DON'T WANT TO WASTE MY TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT WE
11:53:04AM BOND A LOT OF THINGS, RIGHT?
11:53:05AM WHAT DO WE BOND?
11:53:07AM FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, TELL THE FOLKS
11:53:11AM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE BOND IN THIS CITY.
11:53:13AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHAT DON'T WE BOND?
11:53:16AM WE BOND PIPES, OF COURSE, FOR WATER, WASTEWATER.
11:53:20AM WE BOND STORMWATER PROJECTS.
11:53:22AM WE BOND PLANT WORK OUT AT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANTS.
11:53:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COST OVER $40 MILLION SOMETIMES?
11:53:30AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:53:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:53:32AM THAT'S ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THAT.
11:53:33AM WE BOND THINGS AND DO IT FOR LONG-TERM REASONS.

11:53:36AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:53:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVERYBODY PAYS FOR IT, EVEN OUR CHILDREN.
11:53:40AM REALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
11:53:41AM THAT IS A PHILOSOPHY WE HAVE.
11:53:42AM MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP ON BONDING IN THE FUTURE.
11:53:45AM THE ONE THING, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M BEING BOLD
11:53:49AM ENOUGH TO SAY THIS, IS THAT THE FAIR OAKS PARK, THE BOTTOM
11:53:53AM LINE IS WE CAN GET THE FOUR VOTES.
11:53:55AM WE CAN GET THE FOUR SO WE CAN GET STARTED ON FAIR OAKS
11:53:59AM BECAUSE IT IS OVERDUE.
11:54:01AM WE'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME.
11:54:02AM THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WAITING, THE TIME IS HERE, THE TIME
11:54:05AM IS NOW, THE PARK IS GOING TO BE BONDED.
11:54:08AM IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
11:54:10AM AND IN THE HISTORY PROBABLY OF THE UNITED STATES, A BIG,
11:54:13AM BEAUTIFUL $40 MILLION PARK IS GOING TO BE BUILT IN A BLACK
11:54:16AM COMMUNITY.
11:54:17AM THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.
11:54:19AM WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, PREVIOUS HISTORY, WHAT WAS SAID,
11:54:21AM WHAT WASN'T SAID, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, BOTTOM LINE,
11:54:26AM WE'LL HAVE A $40 MILLION PARK AND WE WELCOME EVERYONE.
11:54:29AM WE WELCOME EVERYONE TO THAT AREA, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE IN A
11:54:33AM PREDOMINANTLY BLACK COMMUNITY AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG
11:54:36AM WITH THAT.
11:54:36AM MAYBE YOU CAN DIG IN RESOLUTION 568 AND FIND A VERY GOOD

11:54:39AM REASON WHY THAT 10.2-ACRE PARK CAN BE BUILT IN THAT AREA.
11:54:45AM AS FAR AS FAIR OAKS IS CONCERNED, I WAS KIND OF THINKING
11:54:48AM ABOUT THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT, I'M A WEST SIDE GIRL.
11:54:51AM I GREW UP GOING TO RIVERFRONT PARK.
11:54:53AM NEW FOLKS, JULIAN B. LANE.
11:54:57AM I HAD ISSUE WITH THAT.
11:54:59AM WHY NAMED JULIAN B. LANE AT RIVERFRONT.
11:55:02AM HE WAS A MAYOR.
11:55:03AM HE INSTITUTED BUYING THE ACREAGE OVER THERE ON THE
11:55:05AM RIVERFRONT.
11:55:06AM HE DID SOME DECENT THINGS FOR BLACK FOLKS BACK IN THE DAY AT
11:55:10AM A TIME WHEN PEOPLE WEREN'T REALLY THINKING ABOUT US.
11:55:15AM HE WAS JUST A GOOD PUBLIC SERVANT.
11:55:17AM HILLSBOROUGH GRADUATE, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
11:55:20AM HE WAS A MAYOR.
11:55:21AM THEY INSTITUTED NAMING THE PARK AFTER HIM, ALONG WITH
11:55:26AM KEEPING THE WORD RIVERFRONT.
11:55:28AM NOW, THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX IS JUST A GENERAL
11:55:31AM NAME.
11:55:32AM IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS REPRESENTING SOME MAYOR -- I'M GOING TO
11:55:35AM NEED A FEW MINUTES.
11:55:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:55:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:55:38AM IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS A NAME OF A MAYOR WHO HAS DONE AMAZING
11:55:43AM THINGS OVER IN THIS AREA.

11:55:45AM IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THIS PARTICULAR MAYOR WAS BOLD ENOUGH
11:55:49AM TO SAY WE WANT TO IMPROVE THIS PARK AND THE DESIGN IS
11:55:55AM ACTUALLY BIGGER THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY THOUGHT.
11:55:58AM THERE'S ACTUALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
11:56:01AM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
11:56:02AM I AM JUST REALLY PROUD OF ALL THE WORK FROM OUR STAFF THAT
11:56:07AM HAS GONE INTO THIS.
11:56:08AM WE TALKED ABOUT THE MONEY PART AND WHY WE BOND AND HOW MUCH
11:56:12AM IT COSTS AND THIS PARK HAPPENED TO COST $41 MILLION AND
11:56:15AM HAPPENS TO BE GOING BUILT IN A BLACK COMMUNITY.
11:56:19AM IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I
11:56:23AM ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT AT THIS POINT?
11:56:24AM I WORE A BUTTON TODAY THAT SAYS TEACH THE CHILDREN THE
11:56:28AM TRUTH.
11:56:30AM TEACH THE CHILDREN THE TRUTH, SO OUR KIDS, WHEN THAT PARK IS
11:56:33AM BUILT THEY CAN SAY THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT
11:56:39AM WAS AND THIS IS WHAT IT NOW IS.
11:56:41AM I JUST WANT TO THANK A FEW PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE US TODAY,
11:56:45AM CARRIE HURST, VERLEAN DRAYTON, JOHNNY JOHNSON, FRED HEARNS,
11:56:51AM JOSEPH CITRO, BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, AND AILEEN HENDERSON
11:56:54AM WHO STOOD UP TODAY AND SO BOLDLY SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THIS
11:56:58AM PARTICULAR PROJECT.
11:56:59AM YOU ARE RIGHT IN EVERY ASPECT OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID.
11:57:02AM AS THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT 5, IT IS MY HONOR AND
11:57:05AM PRIVILEGE TO SUPPORT YOU ON THIS PROJECT.

11:57:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
11:57:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:57:08AM THAT CONCLUDES THE DISCUSSION.
11:57:12AM SIR, THAT CONCLUDES.
11:57:13AM WE HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT LATER ON.
11:57:16AM WE CAN ASK OUR QUESTIONS AND DEBATE IT THEN.
11:57:18AM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:57:20AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:57:20AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:57:21AM [LUNCH RECESS]
1:32:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:34:03PM WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
1:34:04PM LET'S GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:34:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
1:34:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:34:08PM >> CLENDENIN?
1:34:08PM HENDERSON?
1:34:09PM VIERA?
1:34:09PM MIRANDA?
1:34:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:34:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:34:11PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:34:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
1:34:14PM LET'S START WITH ITEM NUMBER 7.
1:34:16PM >> HI.

1:34:17PM GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS
1:34:20PM DANA CROSBY COLLIER.
1:34:21PM I'M WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
1:34:23PM ITEM 7 IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE CORRECTING A
1:34:26PM SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DESIGN
1:34:29PM GUIDELINES THAT WERE APPROVED JULY 13, 2013.
1:34:31PM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRESENTATION BY THE PETITIONER ON
1:34:36PM JUNE 1st, THE CORRECTION WILL RESULT IN A 20% TRANSPARENCY
1:34:40PM FOR THE FRONT, PRINCIPAL AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, AND CHANGE
1:34:43PM FROM 20 TO 10 THE TRANSPARENCY ON THE OTHER ELEVATIONS OF
1:34:46PM THE STRUCTURE.
1:34:47PM THE PETITIONER HAS BEEN CONSULTED AND ADVISED OF THIS AND
1:34:51PM AGREES WITH THIS CHANGE.
1:34:53PM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY.
1:34:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
1:35:00PM WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
1:35:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS NO AT PUBLIC HEARING.
1:35:10PM THE SECOND READING WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
1:35:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER E2023-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE
1:35:18PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
1:35:20PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING
1:35:23PM ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-88 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE CITY
1:35:28PM COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON JULY 13, 2023, BY CORRECTING
1:35:32PM A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE AND IN THE
1:35:35PM TEXT AMENDING SECTION 27-240 SUBSECTION E, SUBSECTION 1 F.3,

1:35:48PM EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS, PROVIDING FOR
1:35:50PM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
1:35:52PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
1:35:56PM HURTAK.
1:35:56PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:35:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:35:58PM AYE.
1:35:58PM ANY OPPOSED.
1:35:59PM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
1:36:01PM MARCH 28, 2024, AT 9:30 A.M. AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
1:36:07PM THIRD FLOOR, OLD CITY HALL, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
1:36:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:36:12PM WE'LL GO TO CONSENT AGENDA NEXT.
1:36:15PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU ARE THE CHAIR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO
1:36:18PM TAKE ITEMS 13 AND 14 FOR SEPARATE VOTES.
1:36:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT ON 13 AND 14 AND THEN
1:36:26PM VOTE ON ALL OF THEM AT ONCE.
1:36:28PM MY OBJECTION, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ALL THE DETAIL OF IT,
1:36:31PM UNLESS YOU WANT TO.
1:36:32PM BUT MY OBJECTION IS THAT BY CHARTER, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
1:36:35PM SHOULD GET APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL BEFORE TAKING ACTION.
1:36:38PM I JUST OBJECT TO APPROVING AN ACTION OF THE MAYOR AFTER THE
1:36:42PM FACT.
1:36:43PM I'M GOING TO VOTE YES BECAUSE OF THE CONTENT OF IT, BUT I

1:36:45PM JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
1:36:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
1:36:47PM ALL RIGHT.
1:36:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND MOVING ALL THE ITEMS?
1:36:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
1:36:53PM MOVE 8 THROUGH 17.
1:37:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
1:37:02PM VIERA.
1:37:03PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:37:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:37:05PM AYE.
1:37:05PM NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 18
1:37:10PM THROUGH 27.
1:37:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, CHAIR, I MOVE PARKS, RECREATION AND
1:37:15PM CULTURE COMMITTEE, ITEMS 18 THROUGH 28.
1:37:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, 18 THROUGH 27.
1:37:20PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON PULLED --
1:37:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE PULLED 29.
1:37:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
1:37:28PM YES, MA'AM.
1:37:31PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
1:37:34PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:37:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:37:36PM AYE.
1:37:36PM ITEMS 29, 31, AND 33 WILL BE SEPARATE.

1:37:42PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU MOVE THE OTHERS.
1:37:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 30, 32, 34 THROUGH 47 AND 49.
1:37:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
1:38:00PM HURTAK.
1:38:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:38:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:38:02PM AYE.
1:38:03PM THEN AS A SEPARATE VOTE IT'S GOING TO BE 29, 31, AND 33.
1:38:09PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE --
1:38:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COMMENT --
1:38:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING ABOUT 48.
1:38:15PM OH, THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION.
1:38:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON 31 AND 32, I'M GOING TO START VOTING NO
1:38:24PM ON ALL SINGLE SOURCE PROPOSALS.
1:38:26PM THE PUBLIC WANTS US TO HAVE MULTIPLE BIDS, AND THAT'S COMING
1:38:30PM UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
1:38:31PM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT SO FAR HAS PUSHED BACK ON HAVING
1:38:34PM MULTIPLE BIDS.
1:38:36PM THEY DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO IT.
1:38:38PM I'LL VOTE AGAINST EVERY ONE THAT SAYS SINGLE SOURCE, SOLE
1:38:42PM SOURCE MAY BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT IS REALLY A
1:38:45PM UNIQUE PRODUCT.
1:38:46PM SINGLE SOURCE, I'LL VOTE AGAINST EVERY ONE OF THEM.
1:38:49PM I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC DESERVES MULTIPLE BIDS TO GET THE RIGHT
1:38:53PM PRICE.

1:38:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ISN'T THE SINGLE SOURCE SO THEY CAN GET
1:38:56PM MINORITY PARTICIPATION?
1:38:57PM ISN'T THAT WHY THEY DO IT?
1:38:59PM THEY NARROW IT DOWN.
1:39:02PM IS THAT THE ONE?
1:39:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK SO ON THESE.
1:39:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR 29, 31 --
1:39:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 29 IS THE 6.5 MILLION.
1:39:12PM I BELIEVE THAT MR. BAIRD HAD WANTED THAT --
1:39:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE THAT UP IN STAFF REPORTS.
1:39:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE HAVE TO.
1:39:19PM THAT WAS OUR RULE.
1:39:20PM SO WE MOVED THAT -- IS IT OKAY IF WE TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE
1:39:23PM APPROVE THE OTHERS?
1:39:25PM >> WE CAN DO THAT.
1:39:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S ITEM 31 AND 33.
1:39:29PM >> SO MOVED.
1:39:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
1:39:32PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:39:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:39:34PM AYE.
1:39:35PM OPPOSED?
1:39:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: NAY.
1:39:37PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
1:39:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 29 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AT THE END

1:39:42PM BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
1:39:44PM 48 IS GOING TO BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
1:39:47PM THEN WE HAVE ITEMS 50 THROUGH 57, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:39:52PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:39:53PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:39:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:39:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:39:58PM AYE.
1:39:58PM NEXT IS 58 THROUGH 70, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, THAT'S YOU.
1:40:02PM THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE FOR 68.
1:40:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 58 THROUGH 70 WITH THE SUBSTITUTE ON
1:40:07PM 68.
1:40:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WITH
1:40:09PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:40:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:40:11PM AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 71 THROUGH 75.
1:40:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEMS 71 THROUGH 75.
1:40:18PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH A SECOND FROM
1:40:23PM HENDERSON.
1:40:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:40:24PM AYE.
1:40:24PM OKAY.
1:40:27PM LET'S GET A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
1:40:30PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:40:31PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

1:40:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:40:33PM AYE.
1:40:34PM ITEM NUMBER 76 IS FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
1:40:42PM YES, SIR, MR. FERNANDEZ.
1:40:44PM >> DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
1:40:46PM PRESERVATION MANAGER HERE ON ITEM 76.
1:40:49PM WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BRING YOU THE PROPOSED LANDMARK
1:40:52PM DESIGNATION OF THE MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE LOCATED AT
1:40:56PM 115 COLUMBIA DRIVE.
1:40:58PM ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF DAVIS
1:41:03PM ISLANDS IN THE 1920s AND A STRUCTURE THAT IS
1:41:07PM ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT DESIGNED BY ADAMS WHO DESIGNED
1:41:12PM MANY OF THE SOUTH TAMPA PROPERTIES IN THE MEDITERRANEAN
1:41:15PM REVIVAL STYLE IN ADDITION TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND THE
1:41:23PM VARIOUS BUILDINGS IN THE BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:41:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THE ARCHITECT?
1:41:28PM >> FRANKLIN O. ADAMS.
1:41:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
1:41:31PM I'LL RESEARCH HIM BECAUSE I LIKE TO LEARN.
1:41:34PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: WITH THAT, MY COLLEAGUE, ELAINE LUND,
1:41:38PM WILL PRESENT A PowerPoint.
1:41:39PM I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
1:41:42PM MARINE UNIT AND TPD AS A WHOLE FOR SUPPORTING THE
1:41:45PM DESIGNATION.
1:41:46PM THEY OCCUPY THE BUILDING AND HAVE BEEN A WONDERFUL STEWARD

1:41:51PM OF IT.
1:41:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:41:52PM YES, MA'AM.
1:41:52PM >>ELAINE LUND: ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
1:41:56PM AS DENNIS MENTIONED, WE HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION FOR
1:41:59PM YOU.
1:42:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, WE HAVE IT HERE.
1:42:01PM >>ELAINE LUND: WONDERFUL.
1:42:02PM THE MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE IS A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY
1:42:12PM CURRENTLY IN USE BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT MARINE UNIT.
1:42:15PM THE APPLICATION FOR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION WAS
1:42:19PM INITIATED BY TPD AND AUTHORIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF
1:42:22PM TAMPA.
1:42:22PM PROPERTIES ARE CONSIDERED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
1:42:24PM COMMISSION AT A PUBLIC HEARING TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY
1:42:29PM MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOUND IN
1:42:32PM SECTION 27-257 OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.
1:42:36PM LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PRESERVES HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN
1:42:42PM DISTRICTS, PROVIDES FOR REVIEW OF ALTERATIONS TO THE
1:42:45PM DESIGNATED PROPERTIES, SAFEGUARDS THE HERITAGE OF THE CITY
1:42:48PM AND PROVIDES ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
1:42:49PM THE MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN LATE
1:42:54PM 1927, AND THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS SANBORN COMPANY MAP
1:43:00PM SHOWING THE SMALL WOOD-FRAME STUCCO CLAD STRUCTURE ADJACENT
1:43:03PM TO MARJORIE PARK'S YACHT BASIN ON DAVIS ISLANDS.

1:43:06PM THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS THE MODERN DAY AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH
1:43:09PM OF THE SAME AREA.
1:43:10PM DAVIS ISLANDS CONCEIVED BY DAVID PAUL DAVIS WAS DEVELOPED
1:43:17PM DURING THE FLORIDA'S 1920 LAND BOOM ERA.
1:43:21PM DAVIS WORKED IN REAL ESTATE IN MIAMI WHERE THE MEDITERRANEAN
1:43:24PM REVIVAL STYLE HAD BECOME A HALLMARK FOR ITS UPSCALE
1:43:27PM DEVELOPMENT.
1:43:28PM THE GATEHOUSE IS PART OF MARJORIE PARK BUILT AS A 55-ACRE
1:43:37PM RECREATIONAL AREA ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE ISLAND, WHICH
1:43:41PM DAVIS AGREED TO DONATE TO THE CITY WHEN THE CITY BACK THE
1:43:45PM DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
1:43:46PM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RECREATION WAS A STRONG MARKETING POINT
1:43:49PM FOR DAVIS ISLANDS' PROPERTIES.
1:43:51PM TAMPA'S MUNICIPAL HOSPITAL AND THE DAVIS ISLANDS TENNIS CLUB
1:43:55PM WERE ALSO ORIGINALLY A PART OF MARJORIE PARK.
1:43:57PM IN FLORIDA, THE OPULENT MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE
1:44:03PM DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDED LAVISH GATEWAYS, ADMINISTRATIVE
1:44:06PM OFFICES, HOTELS AND APARTMENTS, PUBLIC AMENITIES AS WELL AS
1:44:10PM THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
1:44:13PM THE STYLE IS AN ECLECTIC STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE BASED IN
1:44:16PM SPANISH COLONIAL AND MISSION ARCHITECTURE WITH SOME
1:44:19PM DETAILING FREQUENTLY BORROWED FROM THE BEAUX ART STYLE.
1:44:22PM DAVIS REFERRED TO HIS STYLE OF CHOICE FOR HIS ISLAND
1:44:26PM COMMUNITY AS VENETIAN.
1:44:27PM THIS EXCLUSIVE DEVELOPMENT WAS PLANNED SO THAT NO

1:44:29PM RESIDENTIAL LOT WOULD BE MORE THAN 500 YARDS FROM THE WATER.
1:44:32PM DESIGNED BY FRANKLIN O. ADAMS AND BUILT BY THE ISLAND
1:44:38PM CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THE GATEHOUSE REFLECTS THE
1:44:40PM COMPLETENESS OF D.P. DAVIS' PLAN WHICH INCLUDED EVERY
1:44:45PM FACILITY FOR RESORT LIVING FROM YACHT BASE TON GOLF COURSE.
1:44:48PM ADAMS, A PROMINENT TAMPA ARCHITECT PERSONALLY DESIGNED 29 OF
1:44:51PM THE MORE THAN 100 BUILDINGS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED ON DAVIS
1:44:55PM ISLANDS BETWEEN 1925 AND 1935, INCLUDING THE ABOVEGROUND
1:44:59PM MUNICIPAL SWIMMING POOL WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS THE ROY
1:45:02PM JENKINS POOL AS WELL AS SEVERAL RESIDENCES.
1:45:05PM WHILE MODEST IN SIZE, THE GATEHOUSE EXHIBITS THE
1:45:09PM MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE AND ITS DETAILS INCLUDING STUCCO
1:45:13PM FINISH, BARREL CLAY TILE ROOFING, CASEMENT WINDOWS, AND
1:45:17PM ELABORATE WROUGHT IRON GRILLS.
1:45:21PM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REVIEWED THE
1:45:24PM APPLICATION ON JULY 11, 2023, AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
1:45:29PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
1:45:31PM FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
1:45:33PM THE MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF
1:45:39PM THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION 27-257A FOR
1:45:43PM LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
1:45:45PM THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AND ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE
1:45:47PM DURING THE PERIOD OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, GENERALLY AT
1:45:50PM LEAST 50 YEARS AGO, AS DELINEATED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER
1:45:55PM OF HISTORIC PLACES GUIDELINES.

1:45:56PM THE HISTORIC RESOURCE IS SIGNIFICANT IN THE AREAS OF
1:46:00PM RECREATION, COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND
1:46:02PM ARCHITECTURE.
1:46:03PM ADDITIONALLY, OWNER SUPPORT IS AN ITEM THAT MUST BE
1:46:07PM CONSIDERED FOR DESIGNATION.
1:46:08PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AS WELL AS THE CITY OF
1:46:11PM TAMPA'S POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR INITIATING THIS PROCESS.
1:46:14PM STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE
1:46:20PM DESIGNATION OF THE MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE AS A LOCAL
1:46:24PM HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED ON MEETING THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE
1:46:26PM OF ORDINANCES.
1:46:27PM WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
1:46:30PM THANK YOU.
1:46:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION REGARDING THIS
1:46:34PM ARCHITECT, FRANKLIN O. ADAMS.
1:46:37PM I READ THAT HE DESIGNED THE THIRD TAMPA CITY HALL.
1:46:40PM IS THAT AN ERROR?
1:46:41PM I KNOW THIS WAS IN 1915, BUT IT WAS BONFOEY AND ELLIOTT.
1:46:53PM I PULLED IT UP MYSELF.
1:46:56PM >>ELAINE LUND: AS FAR AS I KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT
1:46:58PM WE'RE STANDING IN NOW.
1:46:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:46:59PM WHO KNOWS.
1:47:00PM I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
1:47:01PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:47:02PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
1:47:03PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
1:47:05PM 76?
1:47:06PM NO.
1:47:07PM WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED.
1:47:09PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
1:47:09PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:47:11PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
1:47:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:47:13PM AYE.
1:47:13PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:47:14PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 76?
1:47:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE HPC-23-02-C, AN ORDINANCE
1:47:25PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
1:47:28PM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING
1:47:30PM MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE LOCATED AT 115 COLUMBIA
1:47:35PM DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
1:47:38PM SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK; PROVIDING FOR
1:47:42PM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
1:47:45PM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:47:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
1:47:50PM CLENDENIN.
1:47:50PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:47:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:47:53PM AYE.

1:47:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:47:56PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
1:47:59PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 28, 2024,
1:48:03PM AT 9:30 A.M. AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR,
1:48:08PM CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
1:48:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:48:13PM WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND READINGS.
1:48:19PM ITEM 77 IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
1:48:21PM NEITHER IS -- THE NEXT THREE ARE NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
1:48:25PM ITEM 77 IS SECOND READING REGARDING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
1:48:29PM YES, MA'AM.
1:48:29PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL
1:48:33PM DEPARTMENT.
1:48:34PM ITEM 77 IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-161
1:48:40PM IN ORDER TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR AND SUBSTITUTE A NEW
1:48:44PM EXHIBIT A THAT WOULD CONTAIN THE CORRECT AND ACCURATE TEXT
1:48:48PM LANGUAGE FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
1:48:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
1:48:52PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:48:54PM SORRY.
1:48:56PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:48:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR 77 AND 78, I WAS ABSENT AT THE VOTE.
1:49:01PM WATCHED THE VIDEO AND READ THE FILE.
1:49:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
1:49:04PM SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

1:49:05PM NOBODY REGISTERED.
1:49:06PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:49:08PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:49:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:49:10PM AYE.
1:49:12PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:49:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 77, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 23-15, AN
1:49:21PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
1:49:24PM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-161, PASSED AND
1:49:28PM ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON
1:49:31PM NOVEMBER 16, 2023, CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY
1:49:35PM SUBSTITUTING A CORRECTED EXHIBIT "A" FOR THE PREVIOUSLY
1:49:38PM APPROVED EXHIBIT "A" THAT WAS PROVIDED IN ERROR; PROVIDING
1:49:43PM FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:49:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
1:49:47PM MIRANDA.
1:49:48PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:49:48PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:49:50PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:49:57PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
1:49:59PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
1:50:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:50:01PM NEXT IS ANOTHER SCRIVENER'S ERROR CORRECTION.
1:50:04PM YES, MA'AM.
1:50:05PM 78.

1:50:05PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL
1:50:07PM DEPARTMENT.
1:50:08PM ITEM 78 IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ORDINANCE 2024-5 TO CORRECT
1:50:14PM A SCRIVENER'S ERROR AND CORRECT THE FOLIO NUMBERS THAT WERE
1:50:19PM PROVIDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ACCURATELY
1:50:22PM REFLECT THE PARCELS WHICH WERE SUBJECT TO THAT AMENDMENT.
1:50:26PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
1:50:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
1:50:28PM NO.
1:50:28PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 78.
1:50:32PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
1:50:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ONE AND NO ONE REGISTERED.
1:50:34PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM
1:50:37PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:50:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:50:38PM AYE.
1:50:39PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, MIND READING 78?
1:50:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE TA/CPA 23-16, ORDINANCE BEING
1:50:45PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
1:50:48PM AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-5, PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE
1:50:51PM CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON JANUARY 11, 2024,
1:50:55PM CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE
1:50:58PM BY UPDATING THE INCORRECT FOLIO NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED
1:51:02PM IN ERROR AND SUBSTITUTING THE CORRECT FOLIO NUMBERS;
1:51:05PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:51:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:51:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:51:11PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:51:14PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
1:51:16PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
1:51:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:51:19PM ITEM NUMBER 79.
1:51:21PM THIS IS THE SECOND READING AS WELL.
1:51:23PM YES, SIR, MR. FERNANDEZ.
1:51:26PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
1:51:28PM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND HISTORIC
1:51:31PM PRESERVATION MANAGER.
1:51:33PM HERE FOR THE SECOND READING OF THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY,
1:51:36PM LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
1:51:37PM I KNOW THAT ELAINE GAVE YOU A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION ON
1:51:41PM FIRST READING, BUT I DID WANT TO COME AND JUST ONCE AGAIN
1:51:44PM THANK THE FRIENDS OF BELMONT HEIGHTS MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY
1:51:48PM FOR OUR COLLABORATIVE EFFORT IN BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO
1:51:50PM YOU, PARTICULARLY NOREEN COPELAND MILLER WHO WAS
1:51:55PM INSTRUMENTAL IN ORGANIZING AND KEEPING THE MOMENTUM GOING
1:51:57PM BEHIND THIS INITIATIVE.
1:51:58PM WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR HER.
1:52:01PM OF COURSE, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO WORK WITH AN ENGAGED
1:52:04PM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP AND GROUP THAT IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
1:52:07PM THE HISTORY AND THE FUTURE OF THEIR AREA.

1:52:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:52:10PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
1:52:11PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
1:52:14PM YES, MA'AM.
1:52:24PM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
1:52:25PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:52:29PM IT SAID GOOD MORNING INITIALLY.
1:52:31PM BUT IT'S AFTERNOON.
1:52:31PM I GOT IT.
1:52:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOSE WERE THE OLD DAYS.
1:52:34PM >> TODAY WE MAKE HISTORY.
1:52:37PM FIRST, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
1:52:42PM SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY, BUT TRUST SHE IS HERE IN
1:52:46PM SPIRIT.
1:52:46PM NEXT, THANK YOU TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION,
1:52:50PM BOTH ELAINE LUND AND DENNIS FERNANDEZ HAVE BEEN STELLAR WITH
1:52:55PM THEIR SERVICE, AND WE APPRECIATE THEM AND ALL OF THEIR
1:53:00PM EFFORTS.
1:53:02PM WHAT A RIDE IT HAS BEEN.
1:53:05PM AND WHILE TODAY IS A HAPPY DAY, I'M COMPELLED TO REMIND YOU
1:53:11PM AND EVERYONE HOW WE GOT HERE.
1:53:15PM NOBODY CARED ABOUT THE CEMETERY.
1:53:17PM NOBODY.
1:53:18PM AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WHEN THE CEMETERY OWNER DIED, LIENS
1:53:25PM WERE PLACED AGAINST IT.

1:53:28PM IT WENT TO FORECLOSURE, AND IT WAS SOLD AT AUCTION TO THE
1:53:32PM HIGHEST BIDDER AND EXPERIENCE -- AN EXPERIENCE THE BLACK
1:53:41PM COMMUNITY HAS KNOWN FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
1:53:43PM IT WAS THEN THE CAMPAIGN STARTED TO SAVE MEMORIAL PARK
1:53:47PM CEMETERY.
1:53:48PM AND AFTER COUNTLESS VISITS TO CITY COUNCIL, INTERVIEWS WITH
1:53:53PM THE MEDIA, EVEN A PEACEFUL PROTEST AT THE CEMETERY AND, MOST
1:54:00PM IMPORTANTLY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FROM MANY BUT MOSTLY FROM
1:54:09PM THE HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:54:14PM THE CITY OF TAMPA DID THE RIGHT THING.
1:54:19PM THEY PURCHASED THE CEMETERY ADDING IT TO THEIR HISTORIC
1:54:23PM COLLECTION, AND IT IS NOW THE ONLY DESIGNATED BLACK CEMETERY
1:54:27PM IN THAT COLLECTION WITH THE ONLY BLACK VETERANS MONUMENT,
1:54:35PM THE FLORIDA NEGRO WORLD WAR MEMORIAL.
1:54:38PM SO, YES, TODAY WE REJOICE, AND I KNOW COUNCIL WILL ONCE
1:54:44PM AGAIN DO THE RIGHT THING AND UNANIMOUSLY VOTE YES TO ITEM
1:54:49PM NUMBER 79.
1:54:51PM I LEAVE YOU WITH A NOD TO WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
1:54:55PM WITH A QUOTE FROM MAYA ANGELOU, HISTORY, DESPITE ITS
1:55:01PM WRENCHING PAIN, CANNOT BE UNLIVED, BUT IF FACED WITH COURAGE
1:55:08PM NEED NOT BE LIVED AGAIN.
1:55:10PM THANK YOU.
1:55:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:55:12PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
1:55:14PM THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.

1:55:17PM LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU TO MS. HENDERSON AND MS. COPELAND
1:55:23PM MILLER AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU AND YOUR
1:55:26PM WORK AND MR. FERNANDEZ AND HIS STAFF, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE
1:55:30PM TODAY.
1:55:31PM THERE IS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY BEHIND THIS.
1:55:33PM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY AND HOW WE GOT HERE AND YOU ARE
1:55:35PM ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
1:55:36PM AGAIN, IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU, THE COMMUNITY, AND THE GREAT
1:55:39PM STAFF THAT WE HAVE AND THE TENACITY AND THE HARD WORK AND
1:55:43PM THE HOURS OF VOLUNTEERING AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE,
1:55:47PM WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
1:55:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
1:55:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
1:55:52PM I APPRECIATE IT.
1:55:53PM AILEEN HENDERSON, NOREEN COPELAND MILLER AND ALL THOSE
1:55:56PM INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, DENNIS FERNANDEZ, YOUR OFFICE, I
1:55:59PM APPRECIATE YOU.
1:56:00PM THIS IS, FOR ME, WHEN I CONSTANTLY REREAD RESOLUTION 568,
1:56:07PM APOLOGIZING WHEN YOU DON'T GET SOMETHING RIGHT, THE CITY
1:56:10PM MOVING FORWARD, MAKING THE CORRECTION, BUYING THE PROPERTY
1:56:13PM AFTER IT WAS SOLD TO AN INVESTOR, DOING THINGS LIKE THAT IS
1:56:17PM A PART OF THAT TYPE OF RESOLUTION WHEN THIS BODY HERE CAN
1:56:21PM MAKE A DECISION TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WHEN WE CLEARLY SEE
1:56:25PM THERE WAS SOMETHING IN ERROR.
1:56:27PM I AM JUST SO HAPPY THAT WE ARE HERE, GETTING READY TO READ

1:56:33PM THIS AND ADOPT THIS FIRST READING.
1:56:35PM IT IS JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
1:56:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:56:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO THE FEELING OF SAYING THANK
1:56:45PM YOU TO THE COMMUNITY.
1:56:46PM UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THE WAY IT PLAYED OUT A FEW YEARS AGO.
1:56:52PM THIS HAS BEEN A MULTIYEAR EFFORT IN THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO
1:56:57PM PROTECT THIS CEMETERY AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES THAT WENT
1:57:02PM WITH IT.
1:57:03PM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, CITY COUNCIL IS ON THE FRONT LINE EVERY
1:57:06PM WEEK WITH THE PUBLIC, EVERY DAY, ACTUALLY AND NIGHTS AND
1:57:09PM WEEKENDS, BUT ESPECIALLY EVERY WEEK HERE.
1:57:11PM THE PUBLIC TOLD US LOUD AND CLEAR LAST FEW YEARS THAT THEY
1:57:14PM WANTED US TO PROTECT THIS.
1:57:15PM THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK THE LEAD AND MADE A LOT OF CHANGES,
1:57:23PM PUSHED THE CITY AND ADMINISTRATION TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
1:57:26PM LUCKILY THE ADMINISTRATION CAME ALONG AND AGREED WITH US AND
1:57:29PM WE GOT IT DONE.
1:57:30PM THANK YOU.
1:57:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:57:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
1:57:33PM I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID GIVING TRIBUTE TO
1:57:39PM NOREEN COPELAND MILLER FOR HER GREAT CONTRIBUTION KEEPING
1:57:42PM THIS IN THE FOREFRONT OF CITY LEADERS.
1:57:45PM THE CITY STAFF HAS JUST DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB ON THIS.

1:57:49PM EVERYBODY FROM THE DIRECTOR ALL THE WAY DOWN.
1:57:55PM I'M REALLY VERY IMPRESSED AND I THINK THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
1:57:58PM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THAT CITY STAFF DOES ON THIS
1:58:01PM ISSUE AND HAVE DONE ON ALL OF OUR ISSUES, THERE ARE
1:58:04PM HARDWORKING PEOPLE.
1:58:05PM HEARTS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND THEY WORK VERY HARD TO
1:58:07PM WORK FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
1:58:09PM YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SIGNIFICANT EVENT FOR EAST
1:58:14PM TAMPA AND THE COMMUNITY, AND WHEN WE CAN HONOR FOLKS THAT
1:58:18PM HAVE LIVED AND DIED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S SOMETHING WE
1:58:23PM SHOULD ALWAYS DO AND IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT
1:58:26PM THING.
1:58:26PM AND THIS IS THE RIGHT THING.
1:58:28PM THANK YOU.
1:58:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:58:29PM YES, MA'AM.
1:58:29PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WANTED TO READ IT.
1:58:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO PROBLEM.
1:58:35PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A TESTAMENT TO THE
1:58:42PM COMMUNITY MAKING CHANGE.
1:58:43PM AND IT WORKS -- WHEN THE COMMUNITY WANTS SOMETHING AND THEY
1:58:48PM WORK REALLY HARD AT IT, THEY COME AND LET US KNOW.
1:58:51PM IT HAPPENS.
1:58:53PM SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE COMMUNITY FOR THIS
1:58:57PM MONUMENTAL WIN.

1:58:59PM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS IN MAKING THIS AN EVEN
1:59:02PM BETTER SPACE.
1:59:04PM AND WE'VE ALREADY -- WE'RE ALREADY MOVING ON THOSE THINGS.
1:59:07PM THE FENCE, UPDATING THE MEMORIAL MARKER.
1:59:10PM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS CEMETERY NOT JUST INTO THE FOLD
1:59:17PM OF OUR HISTORIC PLACES, BUT TO REALLY MAKING IT SHINE AGAIN
1:59:22PM AND MAKING IT REALLY THE JEWEL THAT IT SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE
1:59:25PM BEEN.
1:59:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:59:29PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING?
1:59:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
1:59:32PM I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE.
1:59:34PM I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE FIVE MINUTES.
01:59:42PM YOU CAN FEED THE FAMILY AND HAVE A FUN TIME WITH YOUR
01:59:47PM LOVED ONE.
01:59:47PM THANK YOU FOR DOING EVERYTHING LONGER THAN WE HAVE.
01:59:50PM YOU DID THE GROUNDWORK, AND WE DID THE SIGNING OF THE PAPERS.
01:59:54PM ALL OF YOU DID THE WORK.
01:59:57PM IT TAUGHT US A LESSON.
01:59:58PM '71 AND '81, SOMEONE HAD TO BUY BOTH PROPERTIES.
02:00:03PM WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AND UNDERSTAND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER
02:00:07PM CEMETERIES.
02:00:07PM IF THEY HAVE A FUND, HAVE IT OUT NOW NOT 100 YEARS
02:00:12PM FROM NOW.
02:00:12PM I HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING AND CHECKING ALL
02:00:16PM THE CEMETERIES THAT MAY BE OUT THERE THAT HAVE A FUND.
02:00:20PM MAYBE NO MONEY ANYMORE AND YOU AND I WILL, WHAT?
02:00:24PM SETTLE A DEBT.
02:00:24PM NOT THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN IN LAW BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU
02:00:30PM HAVE DONE.
02:00:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE CLOSE, I WILL ASK COUNCILWOMAN
02:00:34PM HENDERSON TO READ THIS.
02:00:34PM COUNCILMAN VIERA FELT ILL AND HE LEFT.
02:00:38PM HE HAD TO LEAVE.
02:00:38PM I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.
02:00:40PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:00:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
02:00:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:00:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:00:47PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:00:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I TAKE GREAT PLEASURE IN MOVING PZ, 307.C,
02:00:59PM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
02:01:02PM DESIGNATING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, 2425 EAST DR. MARTIN
02:01:12PM LUTHER KING, JR. BEAUTIFUL, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS DESCRIBED AS
02:01:15PM A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF ALL
02:01:19PM ORDINANCES AND SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:01:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:01:24PM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:01:26PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:01:27PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
02:01:35PM VOTE.
02:01:36PM [APPLAUSE]
02:01:46PM FOR THE NEXT FEW ITEMS, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:01:49PM THEY ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
02:01:51PM IF ANYONE HERE IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ITEMS 80 ALL THE
02:01:55PM WAY THROUGH 86, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE
02:02:00PM WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
02:02:00PM WE HAVE JUST A FEW FOLKS ONLINE.
02:02:03PM AND I WILL SWEAR THEM IN WHEN THE TIME COMES.
02:02:06PM >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SWEAR OR
02:02:11PM AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE
02:02:14PM TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
02:02:16PM >> I DO.
02:02:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S MISS SCHALER ONLINE?
02:02:22PM >> IT WAS.
02:02:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS SCHALER HAS BEEN SWORN IN ON THIS.
02:02:26PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:02:31PM ITEM 80 IS REZ-23-68.
02:02:36PM LOCATED 1723, 1725, 1729, 1733 AND 1935 NORTH A STREET TO
02:02:46PM REZONE FROM RM-16 TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:02:52PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
02:02:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
02:02:58PM MISS SCHALER.
02:02:59PM >> ALEX SCHALER.
02:03:00PM WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES TO MAKE.
02:03:02PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL, AGAIN, THIS
02:03:05PM AFTERNOON.
02:03:06PM THANKS.
02:03:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:03:07PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 80?
02:03:11PM ITEM NUMBER 80.
02:03:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:03:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
02:03:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
02:03:18PM I AM GOING TO GO TOO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR ITEM NUMBER 80.
02:03:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM NUMBER 80, REZ-23-68, ORDINANCE FOR
02:03:29PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
02:03:30PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
02:03:35PM 1723, 1725, 1729, 1733, AND 1735 WEST NORTH A STREET IN THE
02:03:44PM CITY TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
02:03:47PM ONE FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL
02:03:52PM MULTIFAMILY TO CN, COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, PROVIDING AN
02:03:55PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:03:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:03:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:04:01PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:04:03PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:04:04PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNAMINOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT
02:04:12PM AT VOTE.
02:04:12PM >> THANKS.
02:04:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
02:04:22PM >>SAM THOMAS: THE REQUEST IS REZ-23-98 FOR 3803 WEST SAINT
02:04:35PM JOHN STREET FROM RS-50 TO CG FOR A CEMETERY.
02:04:41PM MARTI/COLON IS NORTH OF THE CEMETERY AND RUNS ALONGSIDE BUT
02:04:48PM NOT INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST.
02:04:49PM THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED NO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE AND NO
02:04:52PM EMPLOYEES SO PARKING IS NOT REQUIRED.
02:04:54PM THE APPLICANT HAS COMPLETED REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN HAS
02:04:57PM REQUESTED AND SUBMITTED HARD COPIES TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
02:05:00PM IF APPROVED, CERTIFIED SITE PLANS WILL BE UPLOADED TO ACELA.
02:05:06PM >> I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
02:05:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BENTLEY.
02:05:11PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MARK BENTLEY, 400 NORTH
02:05:17PM ASHLEY DRIVE, TAMPA, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
02:05:20PM I WANT TO FOREGO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING IN THE EVENT THAT
02:05:24PM REBUTTAL IS NEEDED I WILL RELINQUISH THE 15 MINUTES FOR FIVE
02:05:29PM ADDITIONAL FOR REBUTTAL IF THAT IS OKAY WITH COUNCIL.
02:05:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION?
02:05:37PM NO?
02:05:37PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
02:05:39PM NO.
02:05:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:05:40PM WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
02:05:41PM IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 81.
02:05:45PM I SAW THAT EVERYBODY HERE WAS SWORN IN.
02:05:47PM COME ON UP.
02:05:48PM STATE YOUR NAME.
02:05:49PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
02:05:50PM WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
02:05:53PM YES, MA'AM.
02:05:54PM IS THAT A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
02:06:02PM >> YES.
02:06:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE ATTORNEY WILL READ THE NAMES.
02:06:04PM IF YOU WERE HERE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
02:06:07PM >> MISSY MARTIN HAS ONE NAME OF MICHAEL McNABB.
02:06:13PM ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
02:06:15PM FOUR MINUTES.
02:06:15PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:06:18PM MISSY MARTIN, 429 MAIN STREET.
02:06:20PM WANT TO SAY THAT THIS VACANT LAND SHOULD BE A CEMETERY
02:06:24PM AROUND STAY A CEMETERY.
02:06:26PM NOT WHERE THE DISAGREEMENT.
02:06:28PM WE WELCOME TO THE SHABAD OF PASCO INTO OUR COMMUNITY IF IT
02:06:33PM DOES NOT HURT OR DEPRECIATE OUR PROBABILITIES.
02:06:35PM TODAY YOU WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE SOME OF THE FOLLOWING: A
02:06:39PM WAIVER TO IMPROVE AN ENTRANCE INTO A NEW CEMETERY INSIDE OF
02:06:42PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT KENT WITH THE CITY'S
02:06:44PM REQUIREMENTS.
02:06:45PM A WAIVER TO APPROVE AN ENTRANCE INTO A NEW CEMETERY INSIDE
02:06:49PM OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT FED BY AN ARTERIAL OR A
02:06:52PM COLLECTOR ROAD WHICH AGAIN IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S
02:06:57PM REQUIREMENT.
02:06:57PM A WAIVER TO APPROVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS HALF THE
02:07:00PM SIZE OF WHAT IS REQUIRED PER THE CITY FOR THE CREATION OF A
02:07:04PM NEW CEMETERY.
02:07:05PM A WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR NO PARKING.
02:07:08PM THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE FOR A REASON.
02:07:09PM TO SAY THE OWNER WILL BE LANDLOCK IF NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE
02:07:14PM FORWARD AS PRESENTED IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
02:07:17PM CONSIDERED BEFORE PURCHASING THE LAND.
02:07:18PM THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ALSO CONSIDERED THIS WHEN THEY
02:07:21PM PURCHASED PORTIONS OF THIS CEMETERY JUST LAST YEAR FROM THIS
02:07:24PM PROPERTY OWNER.
02:07:25PM ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE
02:07:28PM ENTIRE TRACT.
02:07:31PM THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ALLUDED THE
02:07:36PM LAST TIME WE WERE HERE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE
02:07:39PM GRATEFUL THIS IS WHAT IS PLANNED NOR THE PARCEL AND WE
02:07:42PM SHOULD BE OKAY WITH IT.
02:07:43PM IF THIS IS NOT ALLOWED, THEN A DIFFERENT TPD OF DEVELOPMENT
02:07:47PM CAN AND WILL COME IN AND BRING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE
02:07:50PM PROBLEMS.
02:07:50PM I ASK MYSELF ALL THE TIME WILL THIS BE ALLOWED IN CERTAIN
02:07:54PM NEIGHBORHOODS?
02:07:54PM I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO.
02:07:55PM I ASK ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY FOR YOU TO
02:07:59PM CONSIDER OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY.
02:08:01PM I ALSO HAVE NOT HEARD MENTIONED ONES THAT THROUGHOUT THIS
02:08:06PM ENTIRE PROCESS, WHAT IS THE PLAN AND WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED
02:08:11PM FOND THE APPLICANT AND OWNER TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
02:08:13PM HANDFUL OF MARKED GRAVES THAT ARE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
02:08:16PM CURRENTLY AS THE SURVEY SHOWS, THERE ARE EXISTING MARKED
02:08:22PM BURIALS WHICH ARE ON THEIR PROPERTY WHICH THEY PLAN TO
02:08:24PM DEVELOP THEIR OWN CEMETERY.
02:08:26PM IF THEY CAN NOT DRIVE THROUGH THE MARTI/COLON CEMETERY
02:08:30PM THROUGH THE COLUMBUS DRIVE ENTRANCE BECAUSE THEY ALLEGE IT
02:08:33PM IS A RESTING PLACE FOR THOSE NOT OF THEIR BELIEFS AND IT
02:08:37PM WOULD BE DISRESPECTFUL.
02:08:38PM WHAT WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO DO FOR THOSE ALREADY BURIED
02:08:41PM ON THE PROPERTY?
02:08:42PM WE DEMAND TO SEE IN THEIR PLANS WHAT THE CARE, CUSTODY AND
02:08:47PM CONTROL OF THESE EXISTING BURIALS WILL BE.
02:08:49PM I DON'T THINK I NEED TO REMIND ANYONE IN TAMPA OR ON COUNCIL
02:08:54PM ABOUT THE UGLY HISTORY THAT TAMPA HAS WITH THE CARE THEY
02:08:57PM HAVE PROVIDED FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BURY AND ARE OF
02:09:00PM MINORITY DESCENT IN ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT ON ITS LANDS.
02:09:04PM THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED RECORDS THAT ARE ARCHIVED ABOUT
02:09:07PM THIS CEMETERY DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1887.
02:09:11PM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE CITY ARCHIVES HAD AN
02:09:14PM ABUNDANT COLLECTION OF RECORDS, ARTICLES AND DOCUMENTS NOR
02:09:17PM CEMETERY ALONE.
02:09:18PM AND ITS UGLY HISTORY AND ACCOUNTS OF BODIES NOT BEING USED
02:09:23PM WITH MARKERS AND THEN DEVELOPED OVER.
02:09:25PM BLACK, HISPANIC AND LATIN PEOPLE ENTERED IN PARTS OF THIS
02:09:33PM CEMETERY IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CEMETERY IN GRAVES THAT
02:09:37PM ARE NOT MARKED PRIVATELY AND OF LANDOWNERS AND LEASEHOLDERS
02:09:43PM OF THIS LAND ALL IN THE NAME OF DEVELOPMENTS AND
02:09:45PM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:09:46PM A PLAN TO ENSURE THAT NO UNMARKED BURIALS ON THIS LAND AND
02:09:50PM HAS BEEN DONE FOR OTHER KNOWN CEMETERIES OR ARE WE GOING TO
02:09:56PM ABANDON SOME OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES.
02:10:02PM IF THE PAVED PATH IS WIDE ENOUGH FOR US, THIS SHOULD BE GOOD
02:10:07PM ENOUGH FOR ALL OF US.
02:10:08PM MAYBE THE CITY NEEDS TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE SO IT IS.
02:10:10PM WE WANT IT TO REMAIN A CEMETERY, BUT WE WANT OUR PROPERTY
02:10:15PM VALUES OUR WAY OF LIFE, OUR SAFETY, AND PEACE OF MIND OF
02:10:19PM THOSE WHO HAVE FAMILIES ENTERED AT THE CEMETERY JUST AS MUCH
02:10:22PM AS THE OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER DO.
02:10:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:10:25PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:10:28PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:10:29PM MY NAME IS BARBARA DIAZ JUSKOWSKI, 542 WINHOP WAY.
02:10:36PM GREW UP NORTH ST. VINCENT STREET WHERE MY MOM SYLVIA
02:10:43PM DIAZ LIVED FOR THE PAST 63 YEARS.
02:10:45PM MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN FOR HER TODAY IS HER SAFETY.
02:10:49PM WE ARE HAPPY THAT THE PARCEL WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CEMETERY
02:10:53PM AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN; HOWEVER, WE ARE CONCERNED OF THE NEW
02:10:58PM ENTRANCE THAT THE TRAFFIC WILL HAVE ON A SURROUND
02:11:01PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:11:01PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BURDENED BY THE CUT-THRUS FROM THE
02:11:05PM STADIUM, AND LA TERESITA RESTAURANT AND OTHER BUSINESSES
02:11:10PM BORDERING COLUMBUS DRIVE AND MacDILL.
02:11:13PM VEHICLES IS THIS GO THROUGH ST. VINCENT STREET AND RUN STOP
02:11:18PM SIGNS.
02:11:18PM WITH THE NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION AND AIRBNBS COMING IN THE
02:11:22PM AREA IT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
02:11:26PM YEARS.
02:11:26PM WE WILL HAVE FUNERAL PROCESSIONS AND VISITORS TO IT THE
02:11:31PM CEMETERY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
02:11:32PM NOT TO FORGET OF THE PARKING ISSUES THAT WILL COME WITH
02:11:36PM LARGE FUNERALS.
02:11:37PM MY MOTHER AND I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON TWO DIFFERENT
02:11:40PM OCCASIONS AFTER THAT DAY'S HEARINGS.
02:11:43PM NOT ONE PERSON WERE AWARE OF THE PLANS FOR THE CEMETERY.
02:11:47PM MANY VOICED THEIR CONCERNS BUT UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING
02:11:52PM TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING PEOPLE AND MANY OF THEM DO
02:11:54PM 23409 SPEAK ENGLISH.
02:11:55PM WE MET IN PERSON WITH LACHONE DOCK AND SAMUEL THOMAS ON
02:12:01PM FEBRUARY 19.
02:12:02PM THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA WERE SPOKEN
02:12:05PM TO.
02:12:05PM I SPOKE TO DR. MENDY-DABROWSKI AFTER THE FIRST MEETING AND
02:12:11PM REF.
02:12:12PM ANOTHER.
02:12:13PM THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT NO ONE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
02:12:17PM SPOKEN TO.
02:12:17PM A MEETING FROM THE McFARLANE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
02:12:21PM AT BARKSDALE CENTER.
02:12:23PM MANY RESIDENTS ATTENDED ALONG WITH THE RABBIS TO EXPRESS
02:12:27PM THEIR CONCERNS AND TO ASK QUESTIONS.
02:12:28PM AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SEVERAL RESIDENTS PRESENT;
02:12:33PM HOWEVER, WE ASKED MELISSA MARTIN TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF.
02:12:37PM SHE HAD DONE ALL THE RESEARCH AND HAS BEEN INVOLVED FROM THE
02:12:40PM BEGINNING.
02:12:40PM IN CONCLUSION, WE ARE CONTENT WITH THIS PARCEL TO CONTINUE
02:12:44PM TO BE USED AS A CEMETERY; HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT
02:12:47PM OF PUTTING A NEW OPENING DIRECTLY INTO AN ALREADY BURDENED
02:12:51PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER EXISTING ROAD THAT HAS
02:12:54PM BEEN USED FOR THE LIFE OF THE CEMETERY.
02:12:56PM PERSONALLY, I THINK IT IS A BAD MESSAGE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL
02:13:03PM TELL DEVELOPERS THEY CAN COME INTO WEST TAMPA AND MAKE ANY
02:13:07PM CHANGES THEY WISH REGARDLESS OF THE CONSEQUENCES.
02:13:10PM THANK YOU.
02:13:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:13:12PM YES, MA'AM, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:13:14PM >> MY NAME IS SYLVIA DIAZ.
02:13:16PM I LIVE AT 2611 NORTH ST. VINCENT STREET WHERE I'VE BEEN FOR 63
02:13:22PM YEARS.
02:13:22PM MY MAIN CONCERN IS, THE FUNERAL PROCESSIONS.
02:13:27PM THE STREET BETWEEN ST. VINCENT AND THE PROPOSED NEW ENTRANCE
02:13:32PM IS WHERE HALF A BLOCK LONG.
02:13:34PM THERE ARE SIX HOUSES ON THAT STREET -- ON THAT HALF A BLOCK,
02:13:37PM ALL WITH DRIVEWAYS OPENING ON ST. JOHN.
02:13:40PM MY CONCERN IS FUNERAL PROCESSIONS AS WE KNOW ARE SLOW.
02:13:49PM IF THEY GET BACKED ON THAT SHORT STREET, IMPEDE ACCESS AND
02:13:55PM EGRESS FROM MY HOME.
02:13:56PM ALSO, I AM CONCERNED OF THE OTHER HOMES ON THE STREET.
02:13:59PM ALSO, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TRASH AND THE DAYS OF TRASH AND
02:14:04PM GARBAGE PICKUP NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS OUR PROPERTIES.
02:14:13PM AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT IS EMERGENCY VEHICLES TRYING TO
02:14:15PM ACCESS OUR HOMES WHEN THERE IS A BACK-UP OF FUNERAL
02:14:21PM PROCESSIONS WINDING AROUND THAT SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH
02:14:24PM SHORT AND NARROW STREETS.
02:14:25PM ALL OF THIS WOULD BE SOLVED BY JUST CONTINUING TO USE THE
02:14:29PM ENTRANCE THAT IS ON COLUMBUS DRIVE THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR
02:14:33PM 100 YEARS.
02:14:38PM THAT'S IT.
02:14:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:14:40PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:14:42PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:14:43PM AILEEN HENDERSON.
02:14:46PM I SEEM TO BE MAKING A HABIT OF THIS TODAY.
02:14:48PM I WAS BROUGHT IN AT THE LAST MINUTE WITH MARTI/COLON.
02:14:53PM IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I AM THE OWNER FOUNDER OF THE CEMETERY
02:14:57PM SOCIETY.
02:14:57PM HE STARTED THAT AFTER THE WOODLAWN CAMPAIGN WHERE WE HAD A
02:15:00PM DEVELOPER WHO WAS ASKING FOR A REZONING TO BUILD TOWN HOMES
02:15:05PM ON THE PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY, I MIGHT ADD.
02:15:08PM I WASN'T FIGHTING THE CITY OF TAMPA BUT A PRIVATE PROPERTY
02:15:12PM HOMEOWNER WITH THAT ONE.
02:15:14PM I STARTED TO PROTECT HISTORICAL CEMETERIES AND COUNCILMAN
02:15:19PM MIRANDA YOU ALLUDED TO PROTECTING OUR CEMETERIES AND OUR
02:15:22PM HISTORY AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M HERE TO DO.
02:15:25PM I'M SAD TO HEAR THAT THIS IS AT THE SECOND READING PAUSE I
02:15:29PM HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RESEARCH THAT I KNOW I
02:15:32PM CAN TO DO PRESENT TO YOU A CASE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
02:15:38PM TOO MUCH TO BE DONE.
02:15:40PM ALL OF YOU KNOW WHO RAY REED IS.
02:15:42PM HE HAS DONE INCREDIBLE WORK WITH CEMETERIES, SPECIFICALLY
02:15:48PM BLACK CEMETERIES.
02:15:49PM HE HAS DOCUMENTATION OF 1,000 BODIES UNMARKED AT
02:15:57PM MARTI/COLON.
02:15:57PM WHAT HE SAID TO ME IN ONE OF HIS E-MAILS THAT HE SENT ME,
02:16:01PM WHAT HE SAID WHETHER THEY ARE BURIED OTHER OR BUILT OVER,
02:16:05PM MARTI/COLON HAS MANY SKELETONS YET TO BE REVEALED.
02:16:10PM AS SUCH, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY FORWARD.
02:16:14PM FIGURE OUT WHAT IS ON THAT PROPERTY.
02:16:17PM MARKED GRADES, UNMARK GRAVES TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.
02:16:23PM WITHOUT DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE WE WILL FIND OURSELVES WHERE
02:16:28PM THEY WERE WITH THE SAME PLACE ZION CEMETERY.
02:16:32PM 50, 60 YEARS FROM NOW SOMEBODY LIKE ME DEMANDING THAT THOSE
02:16:36PM SOULS BE RECOGNIZED THAT DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
02:16:38PM I BEG OF YOU, PLEASE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD DO THE RESEARCH.
02:16:46PM WE DID IT ONCE.
02:16:47PM WE DIDN'T GET THAT REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY DEVELOPER AT
02:16:50PM WOODLAWN.
02:16:51PM YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN.
02:16:52PM I KNOW THAT YOU CAN.
02:16:53PM PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
02:16:56PM I AM FIGHTING FOR THE HISTORY OF OUR HISTORIC CEMETERIES AND
02:17:01PM MARTI/COLON IS ONE OF THEM.
02:17:03PM THANK YOU.
02:17:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:17:05PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:17:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAS FIVE NAMES.
02:17:26PM >> ADRIAN LARAMIE.
02:17:28PM STEPHANIE POYNOR, JOANNE McNABB AND GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER.
02:17:36PM FIVE NAMES FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT MINUTES.
02:17:38PM >> GOOD MORNING.
02:17:40PM EXCUSE ME, GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
02:17:43PM SANDRA DIEGO SANCHEZ, COMMUNITY ACTIVIST WITH FAMILY ENTERED
02:17:50PM AT COLON CEMETERY AND FAMILY AROUND THE CEMETERY AND FOR MR.
02:17:57PM BENTLEY'S BENEFIT, I LIVE 2.3 MILES AWAY WHICH WAS A POINT OF
02:18:04PM INTEREST IN THE FIRST HEARING.
02:18:05PM I DIDN'T SPEAK AT THE FIRST HEARING BECAUSE I BELIEVED THAT
02:18:09PM CITY COUNCIL KNEW THE DIFFERENCE OF A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROAD AND
02:18:12PM A NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREET.
02:18:13PM I ALSO ASSUMED THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL UNDERSTAND HAVING A
02:18:19PM FUNERAL PROCESSION TO WIND DOWN THE STREETS AND PARK WOULD
02:18:24PM BE A DETRIMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT TO MENTION THE VALUE.
02:18:28PM CAN YOU IMAGINE TRYING TO SELL YOUR HOME AND HAVING
02:18:30PM POTENTIAL BUYERS SEEING A FUNERAL PROCESSION PARKED IN FRONT
02:18:34PM OF YOUR HOUSE?
02:18:36PM LAST WEEK, YOU SAT THROUGH HOURS TALKING ABOUT HOW --
02:18:39PM HOUSING AND THE MISSING MIDDLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.
02:18:43PM THAT IS WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
02:18:46PM THIS IS MISSING MIDDLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.
02:18:49PM WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DESTROY IT?
02:18:52PM ON FEBRUARY 28, RABBI YARMISH OF PASCO COUNTY AND
02:19:02PM RABBI DABROMSKI OF SOUTH TAMPA ATTENDED THE MEETING AT
02:19:05PM MACFARLANE PARK.
02:19:07PM THROUGH THAT MEETING WE LEARNED THREE THINGS.
02:19:09PM ONE OF THE THINGS IS, JEWISH BURIAL HAS TO BE DONE BEEN 24
02:19:13PM HOUR.
02:19:14PM THAT THE PARKING THAT THEY ARE PLANNING THAT NOBODY CAN SEE
02:19:18PM IS SUPPOSED TO HOUSE 60 CARS AND THE OTHER ONE ALREADY FOUR
02:19:30PM PROPERTIES IN THAT PROPERTY.
02:19:31PM FIRST LET ME ADDRESS THE 20 CARS.
02:19:33PM THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF A CAR IS 15 FEET.
02:19:36PM 20 CARS TIMES 15 FEET IS 300.
02:19:39PM EXCUSE ME, 3,000, WIDTH.
02:19:55PM THEY TOLD US ABOUT THE 20% THAT WAS GOING TO -- TO BE TAKEN
02:19:58PM BY THE RETENTION POND.
02:20:00PM SO A TOTAL OF 14,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY FROM
02:20:04PM WITH THEM PURCHASING THE 40,000 SQUARE FEET LEAVING THEM
02:20:08PM 26,000 SQUARE FEET.
02:20:10PM A FAR CRY FROM THE REQUIRED 85,000 SQUARE FEET REQUIRED FOR
02:20:15PM A CEMETERY.
02:20:20PM THE OTHER THING, OF COURSE, WAS THE FACT THAT THE BURIAL HAD
02:20:23PM TO BE BEFORE -- WITHIN 24 HOURS.
02:20:25PM THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRIVATE CEMETERY.
02:20:28PM GOING THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
02:20:31PM SERVICES CAN BE -- CAN BE HAD AT ANY TIME DAY OR NIGHT
02:20:35PM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES AS OTHER CITY
02:20:39PM PARKS.
02:20:39PM CAN YOU IMAGINE EITHER EARLY MORNING OR LATER IN THE EVENING
02:20:44PM PROCESSION?
02:20:45PM THINK ABOUT THE DOGS GOING CRAZY BECAUSE THERE IS A SLOW
02:20:49PM MOVING FUNERAL PROCESSION GOING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:20:55PM UTTER CHAOS.
02:20:56PM I WOULD WISH THAT MR. JOHN SCOTT WOULD BE HERE TO VERIFY IF
02:21:05PM THE SECRET PARKING PLACE -- THEY ARE CALLING IT A LOLLIPOP.
02:21:11PM I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW THE RABBIS EXPLAINED THE SHAPE OF IT
02:21:20PM HOW 20 CARS ARE GOING TO FIT IN THERE.
02:21:22PM I AM SORRY.
02:21:22PM I DON'T THINK THAT 20 CAR ALSO PIT IN A CIRCLE.
02:21:27PM IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
02:21:29PM THE OTHER THING, OF COURSE, IS THAT THE APPLICANT MADE NO
02:21:33PM ATTEMPT TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE COMMUNITY BEFORE FIRST
02:21:38PM HEARING.
02:21:38PM HAD THEY DONE SO, THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT
02:21:42PM DONE RESEARCH OF THE PROPERTY THEY WERE PURCHASING.
02:21:44PM ACCORDING TO USF THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY HAS A VERY IF
02:21:51PM FELONIOUS HISTORY.
02:21:52PM TWO CEMETERIES NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THE MARTI CEMETERY
02:21:58PM AND COLON CEREMONY.
02:22:00PM WHEN THE CITY DECIDED TO EXTEND COLUMBUS DRIVE, ALL THE
02:22:05PM BODIES NORTH OF MARTI WAS MOVED TO THE COLON CEREMONY.
02:22:12PM BESIDE HAVING A BLACK CEMETERY ON THAT SIDE, THEY HAD A
02:22:17PM PAUPER'S GRAVE.
02:22:18PM UNMARKED.
02:22:19PM NO RECOGNITION.
02:22:20PM THE COLON CEMETERY ALSO HAD A PAUPER'S GRAVE TO THE SOUTH.
02:22:29PM I PULLED THE RECORD OF THE COLON CEMETERY, ALL 2020 NAME.
02:22:36PM IT IS ALPHABETICAL, BY THE LOT AND BY THE SECTION.
02:22:41PM THE APPLICANT PURCHASED LOT 13, 14, 8 AND 9.
02:22:46PM THERE ARE NO SECTIONS ATTACHED TO THAT.
02:22:50PM IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS LIST, THERE ARE OVER 100 NAMES THAT
02:22:58PM SHOW BURIAL IN LOT 13, 14, 8 AND 9 WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A
02:23:03PM SECTION ATTACHED TO THEM.
02:23:04PM I AM NOT SAYING THERE IS A GUARANTEE THAT THOSE BODIES ARE
02:23:08PM IN THIS -- ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT THERE IS A VERY, VERY GOOD
02:23:13PM CHANCE SENSE THAT WAS THE PAUPER'S GRAVE ON THAT END OF IT
02:23:17PM THAT IT IS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PARKING WILL BE
02:23:28PM ACCOMMODATED AND WILL NEED OVERFLOW PARKING.
02:23:31PM THEY ASSURED US THEY WILL DIRECT THE CARS ELSEWHERE.
02:23:34PM CITY COUNCIL, NO "ELSEWHERE" NO LEGAL ON SAINT CONRAD,
02:23:42PM MATANZAS.
02:23:42PM THE ONLY ONE WILL BE THE ROADWAY WITHIN THE COLON CEMETERY.
02:23:46PM ENTRANCE TO THE JEWISH CEMETERY THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA
02:23:52PM WOULD PROMOTE CHAOS.
02:23:54PM THERE WAS A LOT OF -- RABBI IS FROM PASCO COUNTY.
02:24:05PM DABROWSKI IS FROM SOUTH TAMPA.
02:24:09PM A LOT OF PROPERTY BETWEEN PASCO COUNTY AND SOUTH TAMPA.
02:24:13PM WHY THEY WOULD PICK THIS SMALL LOT FOR BOTH CONGREGATION IS
02:24:19PM A QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK ABOUT.
02:24:21PM AGAIN, IT HAS BEEN ABOUT THE USE OF THE CEMETERY.
02:24:31PM IT ALREADY IS AND HAS THE BODIES TO PROVE IT.
02:24:34PM INSTEAD OF ADDING THE SIDEWALKS, THEY COULD HAVE WIDENED THE
02:24:38PM DRIVEWAYS AND EXISTING CEMETERIES AND WE WILL BE THERE.
02:24:41PM IN SPEAKING OF THE FOUR GRAVES ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY, THE
02:24:45PM RABBIS CONFIRMED TO US AND INSTEAD SYMPATHETIC AND TAKE CARE
02:24:50PM OF THOSE GRAVES.
02:24:51PM SEEMS TO ME THAT IF IT IS PROVED THAT ALL PROPERTIES WILL BE
02:24:59PM CONTAMINATED HAVE NO PROOF THERE ARE OTHER BODY THERE IS AND
02:25:07PM THE SPEAKER IN FRONT OF ME MENTIONED THAT.
02:25:09PM HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS UNDER THAT.
02:25:13PM I WOULD VERY QUICKLY LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF THE WAIVERS THAT
02:25:17PM WERE ALLOWED PER THE STAFF REPORT.
02:25:19PM NUMBER ONE, DESIGN IS UNIQUE AND NEEDED FOR WAIVERS.
02:25:24PM WAIVERS GRANTED IN THE ARTICLE STAGE 77 IS MET.
02:25:29PM I TO NOT BELIEVE ARRIVING A 85,000 SQUARE FEET CEMETERY AND
02:25:34PM ONLY HAVING 25,000 KEEPS THAT WAIVER.
02:25:37PM B, IT -- IF ALLOWED, WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH
02:25:45PM THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AND WILL BE AFFECTED.
02:25:47PM THIS DOES NOT SHOW DEPRECIATION OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
02:25:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:25:52PM >> PLEASE ALLOW ME 30 SECONDS.
02:25:54PM ALLOWING THE WAIVER WILL RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING
02:25:57PM DONE.
02:25:57PM CONSIDERING BOTH THE PUBLIC BENEFIT INTENDED TO SECURE THIS
02:26:01PM CHAPTER AND THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE INDIVIDUAL
02:26:05PM HARDSHIPS WILL BE SUFFERED BY CITY COUNCIL WITH FAILURE TO
02:26:09PM GRANT THIS WAIVER.
02:26:10PM EVERY TIME I READ THIS IN A STAFF REPORT, IT IS ALWAYS FOR
02:26:13PM THE BENEFIT OF A DEVELOPER.
02:26:15PM NOT FOR JUSTICE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
02:26:16PM PLEASE DENY THIS APPLICATION UNTIL FURTHER INFORMATION CAN
02:26:21PM BE GATHERED.
02:26:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:26:23PM YES, MA'AM?
02:26:27PM >>SAM THOMAS: THERE IS NO PARKING WAIVER REQUESTED AS PART
02:26:31PM OF THIS APPLICATION.
02:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC
02:26:36PM COMMENT?
02:26:37PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I SEE YOUR HAND OUT.
02:26:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK LEGAL?
02:26:41PM A LOT OF TESTIMONY WAS GIVEN TODAY OF POSSIBLE BONES AND
02:26:51PM GRAVES UNMARKED ON THIS LOT.
02:26:54PM IS THAT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WITH REGARD TO THIS
02:26:58PM DECISION?
02:27:02PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:27:04PM I WAS ASKING MYSELF THE SAME QUESTION AS I WAS HEARING THAT
02:27:08PM TESTIMONY FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
02:27:09PM QUICKLY DID SOME RESEARCH.
02:27:11PM CHAPTER 872, FLORIDA'S UNMARKED BURIAL LAW.
02:27:15PM IF THERE ARE BODIES BURIED THERE, THE STATE WOULD GET
02:27:20PM INVOLVED.
02:27:22PM AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT
02:27:26PM CODE FOR REZONING, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT NEATLY MATCHED
02:27:30PM UP AS TO -- NOTHING THAT IS NOT RELEVANT BUT THE PURPOSE OF
02:27:37PM TODAY'S HEARING.
02:27:37PM NOTHING JUMPED OUT AT ME THAT -- THAT -- THAT WOULD TIE THAT
02:27:43PM INTO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE REZONING AGAINST BECAUSE
02:27:47PM THEY ARE REQUESTING THE USE OF A CEMETERY AND I WOULD LIKE
02:27:50PM MR. BENTLEY TO ADDRESS THAT.
02:27:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN YOU SAID THE STATE WOULD BE INVOLVED.
02:27:54PM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
02:27:56PM BEFORE IT IS REZONED OR AFTER?
02:27:58PM HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
02:28:00PM >>CATE WELLS: I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTLY.
02:28:02PM WE ARE DOING QUICK RESEARCH AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
02:28:05PM BUT A STATE ARCHAEOLOGIST WITH THE DIVISION OF HISTORICAL
02:28:09PM RESOURCES.
02:28:11PM THERE IS A RECORDING MECHANISM.
02:28:13PM I BELIEVE THAT WILL OCCUR AFTER A REZONING IF THIS MOVES
02:28:17PM FORWARD TODAY.
02:28:18PM THANK YOU.
02:28:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. BENTLEY.
02:28:28PM >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MISS WELLS SAID.
02:28:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:28:37PM >> MARK BENTLEY.
02:28:39PM THE SUBJECT PURCHASED THE SUBJECT TO IT THE NORTH IN 2023
02:28:47PM AND WHEN THEY DID THAT THEY IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL OR OBVIOUS
02:28:50PM GRAVE SITE LOCATIONS AND INCLUDED THAT IN THE ACQUISITION.
02:28:55PM NOW WITH RESPECT TO STATE LAW, THE CITY WAS REQUIRED TO
02:28:59PM ESTABLISH BY SURVEY MARKERS ANY AND ALL EXISTING GRAVE
02:29:04PM SITES, OKAY, WHEN THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
02:29:06PM SO IN THE EVENT THERE IS -- THERE ARE ADDITIONAL GRAVE SITES
02:29:11PM LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION, WHAT THE CLIENT
02:29:17PM INTENDS TO DO IS UNDERGO THIS RADAR PENETRATING ANALYSIS.
02:29:21PM PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION TO THE CITY.
02:29:23PM WON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY KIND OF -- I GUESS WOULD YOU SAY
02:29:27PM DEVELOPMENT ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
02:29:28PM SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY BROUGHT THE PROPERTY.
02:29:31PM THEY COULD HAVE BOUGHT ADDITIONAL PRO THE.
02:29:34PM IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT THEY BOUGHT IN TERMS OF VISIBLE
02:29:41PM -- I GUESS WOULD YOU SAY GRAVE SITES.
02:29:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENTLEY, BEFORE YOU GET INTO REBUTTAL,
02:29:47PM CAN I JUST ASK CITY STAFF, DID -- DID THE CITY DO ANY KIND
02:29:53PM OF ANALYSIS ON THE PART THAT THE CITY TOOK OVER AND WHAT WAS
02:29:57PM THE RESULT OF THAT ANALYSIS?
02:29:58PM DID THE CITY SAY, IN EFFECT, THERE ARE NO GRAVES ON -- ON
02:30:02PM THOSE SITES?
02:30:03PM >>SAM THOMAS: FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE NOT DONE
02:30:06PM THAT.
02:30:06PM THE CEMETERY FALLS UNDER PARK AND RECREATION PER VIEW.
02:30:11PM IT WOULDN'T BE US IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR
02:30:17PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:30:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I CAN ASK THE SAME PLANNING COMMISSION
02:30:21PM A QUESTION?
02:30:22PM TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HOW MANY REZONING ARE DONE.
02:30:25PM >>SAM THOMAS: THIS IS MY SECOND INCLUDING THE ONE WE DID
02:30:34PM THIS MORNING.
02:30:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAMPA AND THE ONE EARLIER, RIGHT?
02:30:39PM >>SAM THOMAS: YES.
02:30:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ONE AT ROBLES PARK.
02:30:44PM NOT A CEMETERY BUT YOU HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN IT.
02:30:46PM >>SAM THOMAS: YES, SIR
02:30:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY PLACE WHERE WE HAVE DONE THIS --
02:30:52PM >>SAM THOMAS: THAT WE.
02:30:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT YOU.
02:30:56PM ANY OTHER CITIES.
02:30:58PM >>SAM THOMAS: I HAVE HAVEN'T DONE RESEARCH.
02:31:02PM >> THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE PROPERTY IS EMPTY.
02:31:05PM NO EVIDENCE.
02:31:06PM WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH MARTI/COLON BUT A SEPARATE PIECE OF
02:31:10PM PROPERTY.
02:31:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I DO -- AND I AM NOT
02:31:13PM A GAMBLER.
02:31:14PM >> THAT IS PURE SPECULATION, SIR.
02:31:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT SPECULATION.
02:31:19PM YOU ARE BRINGING THE PRESENTATION.
02:31:20PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO START MY PRESENTATION.
02:31:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT BEING ARGUMENTATIVE WITH YOU.
02:31:26PM BUT WHAT I HEARD FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
02:31:29PM >> YOU HEARD A LOT OF MISINFORMATION FROM A LOT OF THESE
02:31:32PM PEOPLE AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY --
02:31:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TALKING OF PEOPLE HERE, PEOPLE
02:31:36PM DIED GROWING UP SAYING MY SO AND SO IS BURIED BUT THEY
02:31:41PM DIDN'T HAVE THE HUNDRED AND BONES ARE BURIED ON TOP OF THE
02:31:43PM OTHER GRAVE.
02:31:44PM THAT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU.
02:31:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN -- I AM SORRY, MR.
02:31:49PM BENTLEY, FORGIVE ME.
02:31:51PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:31:53PM IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY STAFF THAT MISS SANCHEZ
02:31:57PM NEGLECTED TO SUBMIT SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO PUT INTO
02:31:59PM EVIDENCE.
02:31:59PM >> SANDY SANCHEZ --
02:32:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
02:32:06PM >> SANDY SANCHEZ.
02:32:07PM THIS IS MY REQUEST FOR CITY LORDS.
02:32:10PM AND THIS IS THE LISTING WE GOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DECEASED
02:32:14PM AND WHERE THEY ARE BURIED.
02:32:15PM I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THIS FOR EVIDENCE.
02:32:17PM I FORGOT TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
02:32:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE GIVE IT TO MR. SHELBY.
02:32:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT?
02:32:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:32:27PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:32:31PM MR. BENTLEY.
02:32:32PM >> ANYWAY, JUST TO WRAP IT UP TO GET IN MY PRESENTATION
02:32:36PM UNDER SECTION 497.24, SUB 2-A, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO
02:32:43PM SURVEY ANY AND ALL MARKERS WHEN THEY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY.
02:32:46PM SO, RYAN.
02:32:51PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
02:32:52PM BRYAN MANASSE WITH RYAN POPE.
02:32:56PM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
02:32:58PM IF CTTV CAN BRING UP THE POWERPOINT.
02:33:03PM THIS FIRST SLIDE IS A GOOGLE IMAGE.
02:33:05PM I MEASURED OUT 20 FEET.
02:33:08PM YOU WILL SEE IT AT THE YELLOW LINE.
02:33:11PM LIGHTER GRAY PORTION OF THE PAVEMENT, THE EXISTING PAVEMENT,
02:33:16PM THAT WILL BE ROUGHLY 20 FEET.
02:33:17PM THE REASON I AM BRINGING UP 20 FEET A TECHNICAL REQUIREMENT
02:33:21PM THAT WE ARE BEING HELD TO, CITY CODE, LIFE SAFETY AS WELL AS
02:33:25PM TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS.
02:33:26PM OUR SITE WILL BE TO THE TOP OF THE PICTURE, THE VACANT
02:33:29PM PORTION AND OUR CIRCULATION ON-SITE THROB TECHNICAL
02:33:32PM REQUIREMENTS AND FIRE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:33:34PM AND, AGAIN, THE LIGHTER GRAY PORTION, IT IS JUST -- YOU CAN
02:33:38PM SEE IT CROSSES OVER NUMEROUS INTERNMENT SITES OR PLOTS,
02:33:43PM BURIAL SITES.
02:33:44PM AND LOOKING AT THIS AND BEING OUT THERE AND DOING SITE
02:33:47PM VISITS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD EVER BE EXPANDED WITHOUT
02:33:50PM INTERRUPTING SOME OF THESE EXISTING SITES.
02:33:52PM -- OR PLOTS.
02:33:54PM JUST TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION FROM FIRST READING SINCE
02:33:58PM TRANSPORTATION IS NOT HERE PRESENTLY.
02:34:00PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN ASKED A QUESTION AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS
02:34:02PM RELEVANT FOR THIS CONVERSATION TODAY TOO AND SPECIFICALLY
02:34:05PM FOR THE LEGAL ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, OKAY.
02:34:07PM YOU CAN SEE ON THE SECOND PART WHERE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
02:34:10PM ASKED, MOBILITY'S POSITION ACCESS TO THE TREAT.
02:34:13PM TWO STREETS, JOHNSON AND SCOTT.
02:34:15PM CITY OF TAMPA SAYS, THAT'S CORRECT.
02:34:17PM OUR LEGAL ACCESS TO ST. JOHN OR MATANZAS.
02:34:21PM WE ARE PROPOSING ST. JOHN ACCESS AND A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR
02:34:25PM THAT.
02:34:25PM AND I WILL SHOW YOU IN JUST A SECOND.
02:34:28PM THESE PICTURES ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR FROM THE FIRST READING.
02:34:33PM VEHICLE ON PART OF THE PATHWAY.
02:34:38PM FACING NORTH BUT TO THE REAR IS THE VACANT PARCEL FOR THE
02:34:41PM CEMETERY USE.
02:34:42PM ONE VEHICLE PARKED ON A PATH.
02:34:44PM NO WAY GOING AROUND THERE WITHOUT DISTURBING EXISTING BURIAL
02:34:50PM SITES.
02:34:50PM ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
02:34:53PM THE NORTH SIDE MY VEHICLE FACING NORTH TOWARD COLUMBUS.
02:34:58PM IF THE FIRST VIDEO SHOW HOW IT VARIES AND SUBSTANTIAL TO THE
02:35:02PM 20-FOOT REQUIREMENT.
02:35:04PM THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY AND TO THE
02:35:08PM RIGHT.
02:35:08PM THE GATE ACCESS FROM MY INVESTIGATION AT LEAST GOING BACK TO
02:35:12PM 2007 HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR ST. JOHN.
02:35:16PM USED AND UTILIZED FOR SOUTHERN ASPECT.
02:35:21PM AND YOU COULD SEE HERE THAT THIS ACCESS AS IT IS TODAY IS
02:35:25PM SHOWN BACK IN 2007 AND MOST LIKELY PREVIOUS TO THAT AS WELL.
02:35:30PM THIS IS ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WEB SITE REGARD MARTI/COLON
02:35:38PM CEMETERY.
02:35:39PM MAY 2023, THE CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASED THE PARCELS THAT MAKE
02:35:42PM UP COLON CEMETERY AND OWNS BOTH MARTI/COLON CEMETERIES.
02:35:49PM YOU HEARD FROM MR. BENTLEY, THE ONUS WILL BE THE PROPERTY
02:35:53PM BUYER AT THE TIME THE CITY OF TAMPA TO IDENTIFY THESE
02:35:56PM MARKERS THAT MR. BENTLEY IDENTIFIED IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
02:35:59PM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY IS MORE OR LESS STATING THEY
02:36:03PM HAVE ALL OF MARTI/COLON.
02:36:06PM MARTI ON THE NORTH SIDE.
02:36:08PM AND THEN OUR PARCEL THE VACANT SITE TO THE SOUTH.
02:36:12PM THIS IS A ROUGH DRAFT OF WHAT I DID.
02:36:15PM I TRIED TO COLOR CODE IT A LITTLE BIT.
02:36:17PM BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS -- THE RED LINES CAN BE DEPICT WHAT YOU
02:36:20PM CAN GET WITH RS-50 WHICH IS THE ZONING TOWARD THE WEST OF
02:36:24PM THE PROPERTY.
02:36:24PM RS-50 IS WHERE THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA APPLIES TO.
02:36:28PM THE CG PORTION OF THE PARK IS HOW OFF CEMETERY BY PERMITTED
02:36:33PM USE BY RIGHT.
02:36:34PM YOU CAN SEE HOW I GENERALLY DEPICTED 5,000 SQUARE-FOOT LOTS
02:36:38PM WITH 50 FEET OF FRONTAGE.
02:36:40PM DEMONSTRATING THE AMOUNT OF ACCESS BY RIGHT THIS PROPERTY
02:36:45PM COULD DEVELOP WITHOUT COMING BEFORE YOU FOR SOME TYPE OF
02:36:52PM REZONING SING EVERYBODY FROM MY RECOGNITION TALKING ABOUT
02:37:00PM THE USE AND NOT THE ISSUE.
02:37:02PM THIS IS THE ONLY CAPACITY TO BRING BEFORE YOU THIS IS A
02:37:06PM CEMETERY USE AND IS HOW IT IS GOING TO BE AND NOT HAVE ANY
02:37:11PM DEVIATION FROM THAT.
02:37:12PM TO POINT OUT THE TIMELINE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.
02:37:19PM AND IT DOES A RADIUS AND SENDS IT OUT TO ALL NEIGHBORS IN
02:37:24PM THAT RADIUS.
02:37:25PM TO PULL IT BACK.
02:37:27PM THE INITIAL SUBMISSION JUNE 26 WE, MYSELF AND MARK SENT
02:37:34PM OUT LETTERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS LISTED ON THE
02:37:38PM CITY WEB SITE WE WOULD FOR REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE.
02:37:41PM WE SENT THAT OUT.
02:37:42PM THAT IS A COURTESY NOTE TO TRY TO GET FEEDBACK, CONCERNS AND
02:37:47PM ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ON THESE PROJECTS BEFORE WE GET
02:37:49PM TO YOU AUGUST 21, 2023.
02:37:56PM SANDY SANCHEZ.
02:37:58PM I SAW HER HERE FOR A PREVIOUS HEARING AND ADVISED ME THAT
02:38:03PM MISSY MARTIN HAD SOME CONCERNS AND SHE TRADED ME
02:38:05PM INFORMATION.
02:38:06PM GAVE ME MISSY MARTIN'S NUMBER IN AN E-MAIL LATER ON.
02:38:09PM SEPTEMBER 2023, I DISCUSSED NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS WITH
02:38:15PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND MISSY MARTIN.
02:38:17PM HEARD BACK FROM OR HEARD THROUGH MISS SANCHEZ.
02:38:22PM NOVEMBER 20 BECAUSE WE MISSED A CYCLE AND WENT BACK TO THE
02:38:25PM DRAWING BOARD TO FIGURE OUT IF ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO HELP
02:38:28PM APIECE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ANY CONCERNS, I REACHED BACK OUT
02:38:31PM TO CARROLL ANNE BENNETT AND MISSI MARTIN OF THE IMPASSE IN
02:38:35PM THE SITE DESIGN AND WE SAID WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND
02:38:40PM CONTINUE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING.
02:38:42PM WE SUBMITTED FOR NOTICE.
02:38:44PM AND THERE WITH SOME OPPOSITION.
02:38:47PM THE RABBI DISCUSSED THE MOTION WITH A NEARBY.
02:38:51PM THE RABBIS ATTENDED A COMMUNITY MEETING.
02:38:54PM IN FEBRUARY 29, 2024, RABBI DABROWSKI MET WITH SANDY
02:39:03PM SANCHEZ.
02:39:04PM AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO ANNOTATE THE RECORD.
02:39:07PM AND TURN IT OVER TO MARK.
02:39:09PM >> RYAN, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THAT?
02:39:11PM THANK YOU.
02:39:12PM JUST TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS HERE.
02:39:14PM I MIGHT NEED ONE MORE MINUTE, MR. CHAIR, BUT IN ANY EVENT.
02:39:19PM THE UNREFUTED TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IN
02:39:22PM THIS CASE IS THE ONLY LEGAL ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS A
02:39:26PM PUBLIC STREET ADJOINING THE PROPERTY.
02:39:29PM UNDER FLORIDA LAW, WE ARE ENTITLED TO ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC
02:39:33PM RIGHT-OF-WAY IF IT IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
02:39:36PM HISTORICAL ACCESS AS RYAN INDICATED FROM ST. JEAN.
02:39:41PM YOU SAW THE GATE THERE.
02:39:42PM A PATH ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND NOT A ROAD AS CARS
02:39:47PM DIDN'T EXIST WHEN THIS WAS CREATED IN 1895, MORE OR LESS.
02:39:51PM THE PASS EIGHT FEET WIDE NO SUBBASE.
02:39:54PM NOT SAFE, ETC.
02:39:56PM GRAVES RIGHT UP TO THE PATH.
02:39:59PM IF YOU TRY TO EXPAND FROM THE 20 FEET, DISINTER THE GRAVES
02:40:05PM AND RELOCATE THEM.
02:40:06PM AND I DON'T HAVE A CLUE HOW YOU DO THAT.
02:40:10PM NO LEGAL RIGHT FOR US TO USE THE PATH ASSUMING YOU CAN
02:40:14PM RECORD US TO DO THAT.
02:40:14PM A VIOLATION OF CITY CODE WHICH REQUIRES 20 FEET NOR NPA.
02:40:20PM AND CAUSE REINTERNMENT.
02:40:23PM LIABILITY ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH JOINT USE.
02:40:25PM I THINK THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME KIND OF
02:40:28PM INSURANCE ALONG WITH RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE AND
02:40:33PM REPAIRS.
02:40:35PM THE COLUMBUS INTERSECTION WILL HAVE TO BE ENTIRELY REWORKED.
02:40:39PM IT IS UNTENABLE RIGHT NOW.
02:40:40PM YOU CAN BARELY GET IN IT.
02:40:42PM THAT INCLUDES WORK IN THE MEDIAN THAT MIRRORS.
02:40:47PM A VIOLATION OF FLORIDA LAW TO SEND US ON TO THIS PATH TOO.
02:40:51PM I HAVE TWO CASES IN THE RECORD FOR THE PROPOSITION.
02:40:55PM KNEES WERE SITUATIONS WHERE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT TRIED TO
02:41:02PM REQUIRE A PROPERTY OWNER TO GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY OVER
02:41:04PM A SUBSTANDARD PUBLIC STREET, NOT A PRIVATE RIGHT-OF-WAY WE
02:41:09PM ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:41:09PM THIS INVOLVES ONE CASE IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
02:41:15PM I AM NOT GOING TO TRY YOU IT, IT IS IN THE RECORD.
02:41:18PM INSTEAD OF UTILIZING A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEY
02:41:23PM DETERMINED IT WAS COMPENSABLE TAKING OF THE SUBJECT
02:41:26PM PROPERTY.
02:41:26PM OTHER POINTS HERE FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.
02:41:30PM IF THERE WAS ONE CAR -- IF THERE IS A CEMETERY -- EX CUES
02:41:34PM ME, A FUNERAL GOING ON AT MARTI/COLON AND ONE CAR IN THE
02:41:39PM PATH, OKAY, WE COULD NEVER USE OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
02:41:45PM WOULD BE COMPLETELY BACKED OFF.
02:41:47PM YOU DIDN'T DIVERT THE PATH, YOU ARE DIVERTING TO GRAVE
02:41:51PM SITES.
02:41:51PM IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, THAT IS THE USE.
02:41:56PM YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY FROM JONATHAN SCOTT.
02:41:58PM REQUIRED ACCESS EITHER TO MARTI/COLON OR MATANZAS.
02:42:06PM SIMILAR TO THE STEM TERRY TO THE NORTH WHICH IS 30 FEET.
02:42:11PM WHEN THE CITY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 2023, THEY INCLUDED
02:42:17PM AN ILLEGAL AND NONCONFORMING LOTS THAT DIDN'T MEET LOT SIZES
02:42:22PM THAT PUT NEWS A PREDICAMENT WE ARE IN LIGHT NOW TO HAVE A
02:42:26PM CEMETERY UNDER THE SPECIAL USE ST. STANDARDS, WE DON'T HAVE
02:42:29PM ENOUGH LAND.
02:42:30PM UNDER FLORIDA LAW, WE HAVE ENOUGH LAND.
02:42:33PM THE WAIVER IS A RESULT OF THE CITY NOT BUYING THE ENTIRE
02:42:38PM PROPERTY BUT A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
02:42:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:42:41PM >> EXCUSE ME, CAN I HAVE 30 SECONDS.
02:42:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, YOU CAN.
02:42:48PM >> I NEED TO SUBMIT THIS.
02:42:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, YOU MAY.
02:42:51PM 30 MORE SECONDS.
02:42:53PM >> MENDY-DABROWSKI.
02:42:58PM DO YOU NEED MY ADDRESS?
02:42:59PM JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS SHARED PREVIOUSLY BY
02:43:03PM SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
02:43:04PM FIRST AND FOREMOST, I LIVE WITHIN -- VERY CLOSE WITHIN A
02:43:09PM COUPLE OF MILES OF THE CEMETERY SPACE AND WHILE RABBI YAMISH
02:43:19PM WORKS A LITTLE AWAY.
02:43:21PM WE DON'T OPERATE A SYNAGOGUE LIKE OTHER CONGREGATIONS.
02:43:26PM BORN OUT OF THE DESIRE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANTING A
02:43:30PM JEWISH CEMETERY IN THE CITY.
02:43:32PM WE DON'T DO FUNERALS AT NIGHT.
02:43:34PM THAT IS A MISS DEVELOPER.
02:43:36PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
02:43:37PM WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THE RESIDENTS.
02:43:42PM CHANGE IS DIFFICULT.
02:43:44PM AND TALKED TO THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS IN THE ONCE-A MACHINE
02:43:47PM YEAR EVEN TIME OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH TO
02:43:50PM ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS WHICH IS ULTIMATELY OUR CONCERNS.
02:43:53PM THANK YOU.
02:43:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE RABBI
02:43:57PM ACTUALLY.
02:43:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU CAN COME UP.
02:44:00PM >> NAME AGAIN?
02:44:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, YOU ARE FINE.
02:44:03PM BUT THANK YOU.
02:44:06PM MR. BENTLEY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU
02:44:09PM WOULD BE FOLLOWING DO THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR TO SEE IF
02:44:18PM THERE ARE ANY GRAVES ON OF THE PROPERTY.
02:44:19PM IS THAT CORRECT?
02:44:21PM >> YES, WE FEEL THAT, NUMBER ONE, OBVIOUSLY AS I SAID
02:44:26PM EARLIER, BURIAL IS A VERY SACRED THING AND IF THERE ARE
02:44:31PM GRAVES.
02:44:31PM NEED TO BE SACRIFICED AND ACT -- SACRIFICED AND
02:44:36PM ACKNOWLEDGED.
02:44:37PM MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE BRAVES ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE --
02:44:39PM THEY WOULD BE DEMARCATED AS PART OF THE MARTI/COLON
02:44:44PM CEMETERY.
02:44:44PM ANY BURIAL BETWEEN THE TWO WILL BE ON THE SITE OF THE
02:44:50PM GRAVES.
02:44:51PM AND ANYBODY CAN SUCCESS UNTIL THEM UP THIS WILL IN POINT.
02:44:54PM WE MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR.
02:44:56PM WE RESPECT THOSE GRAVES AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE.
02:44:58PM THE SAME WOULD GO IF WE FOUND OTHER PEOPLE BURIED HERE.
02:45:03PM WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL.
02:45:06PM AND TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT, IF IT IS SUBSTANTIATED
02:45:11PM THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT CAN POINT TO SOMEONE THAT IS
02:45:14PM ACTUALLY BURY THERE, BUT COMMON REFRAIN.
02:45:18PM AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT, THIS WAS A PAUPER'S GRAVE.
02:45:22PM MAYBE A MARKER PLACED THERE.
02:45:25PM A MONUMENT OF SUCH THAT ACKNOWLEDGES WHILE WE DON'T HAVE
02:45:29PM DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE IT WAS JACK, STEPHANIE OR STACEY, WE
02:45:33PM KNOW FROM COLLECTIVE COMMUNITY WISDOM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
02:45:36PM WERE BURIED HERE THAT COULD NOT AFFORD PROPER GRAVES AND
02:45:41PM THIS IS IN THEIR MEMORY SO THEY ARE NOT FORGOTTEN.
02:45:43PM WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS THE CASE OR NOT THE
02:45:53PM CASE.
02:45:53PM AND PAY RESPECT TO THOSE HERE AS WELL.
02:45:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:46:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM THINKING OUT LOUD.
02:46:03PM SOME POEM DON'T SPEAK, BUT I STILL LISTEN TO THEM.
02:46:07PM HOW I GREW UP.
02:46:08PM THEY TAUGHT ME.
02:46:09PM NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU RUN, TIME WILL CATCH UP WITH YOU.
02:46:12PM ANY FEW WHERE I WAS GOING, I WOULD HAVE ALREADY ARRIVED.
02:46:15PM MAIN THINGS TO COME TO MY HEAD.
02:46:18PM SO I AM GOING TO ASK YOU, ANOTHER QUESTION, HOW MANY
02:46:26PM CEMETERIES FROM AN ENTRANCE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
02:46:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN ANSWER THAT BUT I AM NOT GOING TO.
02:46:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MEMORIAL PARK.
02:46:40PM OTHERS THAT ARE BIG.
02:46:43PM THEY HAVE ROADS ALL THE WAY AROUND THEM AND CUTTING THROUGH
02:46:47PM THEM.
02:46:47PM BUT THEY HAVE NO HOUSE.
02:46:48PM NO EGRESS OR INGRESS.
02:46:51PM IF I AM WRONG, PROVE ME.
02:46:53PM THAT IS THAT.
02:47:01PM THANK YOU.
02:47:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
02:47:04PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:47:05PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS CORRECT.
02:47:08PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECOND FROM
02:47:12PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:47:16PM THANK YOU.
02:47:17PM YOUR MIC WAS OFF WHEN YOU SAID THAT.
02:47:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
02:47:38PM TREMENDOUS ZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 303
02:47:43PM WEST JOHN STREET PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED THIS SECTION 1 FROM
02:47:46PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY
02:47:50PM AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CEMETERY
02:47:54PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:47:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO I HAVE A SECOND?
02:47:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
02:47:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND.
02:48:00PM AND PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:48:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN BECAUSE I
02:48:07PM HEARD SOME THINGS TODAY.
02:48:08PM GENERALLY NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:48:10PM BUT THIS BOILS DOWN TO A SIMPLE REZONING REQUEST AND PEOPLE
02:48:18PM CAN BUILD HOUSES ACROSS THIS AND WOULDN'T BE BAT A EYE AND
02:48:23PM BUILD ON TOP OF WHAT IS EXIST HEARING.
02:48:25PM I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY OBJECT TO IT REMAINING A CEMETERY.
02:48:29PM THAT IS REALLY OFF THE TABLE.
02:48:30PM AND THE EGRESS -- SO REALLY -- IT SEEMS TO ME -- WHAT I AM
02:48:34PM HEARING, THE ONLY REAL ISSUE HERE IS THE ENTRANCE ON THE
02:48:43PM ROAD FOR THE CEMETERY AND WE HEARD FROM THE TRANSPORTATION
02:48:47PM EXPERTS AT THE FIRST HEARING THERE IS AN ENTITLEMENT FROM
02:48:54PM INGRESS AND EGRESS.
02:48:55PM WITHOUT THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
02:48:58PM SO I GET THE EMOTION BEHIND IT.
02:48:59PM I ALSO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND THE CHANGE OF
02:49:03PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:49:03PM I ALSO GET THE FACT THAT THERE WAS CULTURAL DIFFERENCES
02:49:06PM HERE.
02:49:07PM WE HAVE HISTORIC PREDOMINANTLY CATHOLIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND
02:49:12PM CHANGING USE OF A DIFFERENT CEMETERY, BUT NOT SOMETHING WE
02:49:15PM CONSIDER HERE AS THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE GOVERNMENT
02:49:18PM OFFICE.
02:49:22PM WE HAVE CODES HOW THE ROADS ARE BUILT.
02:49:24PM THE CITY SETS HOW THEY ARE BUILT.
02:49:27PM AND REQUIREMENT HOW IT IS DONE
02:49:29PM THE ISSUE BOILS DOWN WHAT IS IN OUR HANDS AS A GOVERNS BODY
02:49:34PM REPRESENTING THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:49:36PM THE DECISION WE ARE MAKE.
02:49:39PM WE HAVE TO PEEL DOWN THE OTHER STUFF TO WHAT IS LEGALLY
02:49:43PM RECOGNIZABLE IN EVERYBODY'S LAND USE.
02:49:45PM I READ THE ORDINANCE AND I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE REZONING
02:49:48PM ON THIS.
02:49:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:49:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT ONE.
02:49:56PM I VOTED YES LAST TIME.
02:49:58PM ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE
02:50:02PM WAIVERS SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
02:50:12PM AND EVIDENCE THAT SHOW WHAT GRAVES ARE IN THE SITE LEGAL
02:50:17PM GAVE US THE ANSWER BUT SOUNDS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE REVIEWED
02:50:21PM MORE BEFORE LEGAL CAN SAY WHETHER WE COULD OR COULD NOT VOTE
02:50:24PM NO BASED ON THAT.
02:50:27PM IF I HAD A CHOICE, I WOULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONTINUE THIS,
02:50:31PM BECAUSE I ALSO RESPECT THE COMMUNITY THAT IS TRYING TO BUILD
02:50:41PM A PLACE TO HONOR THEIR LOVED ONES AND ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE
02:50:45PM WORKED OUT HERE.
02:50:45PM IN THE ABSENCE OF NOT CONTINUING IT, I WOULD CHANGE MY VOTE
02:50:50PM TO NO.
02:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:50:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL KEEP MY VOTE AS YES BECAUSE THIS IS
02:50:56PM STILL GOING TO BE A CEMETERY.
02:50:57PM THEY SAID THEY WILL DO GROUND PENETRATING RADAR.
02:51:02PM IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AND DOESN'T BECOME A CEMETERY, PEOPLE
02:51:06PM CAN BUILD HOUSES AND NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY
02:51:09PM COUNCIL TO MAKE THEM CHECK GROUND PENETRATING RADAR.
02:51:13PM WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO THAT.
02:51:16PM THIS IS GOING TO BE A CEMETERY.
02:51:18PM I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CULTURAL DIFFERENCE THAT GOING TO
02:51:27PM ANOTHER PERSON'S CEMETERY IS ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE OF THE
02:51:31PM JEWISH FAITH.
02:51:32PM I WANT TO RESPECT THAT.
02:51:34PM I AM CONCERNED IF THIS DOESN'T PASS AND BECOME A CEMETERY
02:51:38PM THAT IT WILL BECOME HOMES AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
02:51:41PM ALSO IN EVERYTHING THAT HAS COME IN FRONT OF US, WE ARE
02:51:44PM LOOKING SIMPLY INTO A ZONING.
02:51:46PM WE ARE TURNING IT INTO -- WE ARE CODIFYING WHAT THE
02:51:49PM COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS KNOWN IT HAS BEEN.
02:51:52PM RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT A CEMETERY AND WE WILL BE CODIFYING IT
02:51:55PM AS A CEMETERY AND I THINK THAT IS PROTECTING THE LAND WHERE
02:51:58PM RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT BEING PROTECTED.
02:52:00PM SO THANK YOU.
02:52:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:52:04PM YES, SIR?
02:52:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU
02:52:12PM AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON REFERENCED THIS AND NEEDS TO BE CLEAR
02:52:15PM ON THE RECORD AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
02:52:17PM ORDINANCE IN SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
02:52:21PM WHAT I SEE IN FRONT OF ME WAS A 5-2 VOTE.
02:52:23PM AND TWO MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL VOTED NO.
02:52:26PM OF COURSE, THIS IS A SECOND READING AND YOU HAVE THE
02:52:28PM OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE, BUT I WANT TO LET YOU
02:52:32PM KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OUTCOME IS.
02:52:39PM IT MOVES FORWARD, IT MOVES FORWARD.
02:52:42PM IF IT DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD, COUNCIL NEEDS TO JUSTIFY WHAT
02:52:49PM THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS ON THE RECORD AND WHAT
02:52:53PM IS THE CHANGE OF YOUR VOTE FROM FIRST AND SECOND READING SO
02:52:56PM IT IS CLEAR ON THE RECORD.
02:52:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION?
02:53:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
02:53:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:53:03PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:53:09PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED DUE TO LACK OF TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY
02:53:13PM VOTE WITH CARLSON, MANISCALCO, VOTING NO AND VIERA ABSENT AT
02:53:20PM VOTE.
02:53:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S RULES, IT IS REOPENED
02:53:24PM AND CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING WHEREUPON
02:53:29PM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA ABSENT FOR THIS VOTE WOULD HAVE HAD AN
02:53:32PM OPPORTUNITY REVIEW THE RECORD AND COME BACK AND THEN COUNCIL
02:53:35PM WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CAST THE VOTES WITH THE FALL
02:53:42PM COUNCIL.
02:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD BE MARCH 28.
02:53:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BENTLEY?
02:53:50PM WELL THE THING IS -- WELL, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE -- IT
02:53:54PM SHOULD BE A VERY SHORT VOTE AND I DON'T WANT THE APPLICANT
02:53:57PM OR THE COMMUNITY TO BE PREJUDICED BY HAVING TO WAIT.
02:54:00PM MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TAKE IT THE 28th.
02:54:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 28th AT 9:30.
02:54:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
02:54:08PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUE THIS MARCH 28,
02:54:16PM 2024, 315 EAST, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602, THIRD FLOOR.
02:54:24PM WRONG ZIP CODE.
02:54:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:54:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:54:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHOULD WE DO WHAT WE DID FOR THE LAST ONE AND
02:54:35PM MAKE SURE IT IS FIRST THING?
02:54:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE TO?
02:54:37PM WE HAVE IT SET FOR 9:30.
02:54:39PM ITEM NUMBER 82, SIR.
02:54:47PM >>SAM THOMAS: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, SAM THOMAS, LAND
02:54:53PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:54:53PM ITEM 82, REZ-23-118.
02:54:58PM REZONE FROM 3110 NORTH TAMPA STREET, REZONE FROM RS-50 TO PD
02:55:07PM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
02:55:09PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:55:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
02:55:13PM NO
02:55:14PM APPLICANT FOR 82.
02:55:15PM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 82?
02:55:21PM NOBODY REGISTERED.
02:55:22PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR ITEM NUMBER
02:55:26PM 82?
02:55:26PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:55:27PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:55:29PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:55:30PM OPPOSE?
02:55:33PM I LEFT OFF WITH COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:55:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:55:37PM I READ THE LAST ONE.
02:55:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, WHERE WOULD YOU
02:55:47PM MIND READING 82.
02:55:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU STARTED IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
02:55:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:55:54PM WE SWITCH IT AROUND WITH THE CEMETERY.
02:55:56PM GO AHEAD, 82.
02:55:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ -- I HAVE
02:56:04PM MICROPHONE ON.
02:56:05PM MOVE FILE REZ-3-118, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN 3310
02:56:14PM NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
02:56:16PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
02:56:20PM CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD,
02:56:25PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI ATTACHED.
02:56:31PM PROVIDING A EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:56:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:56:35PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:56:40PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT
02:56:44PM VOTE.
02:56:45PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:56:49PM 83, REZ-24-04.
02:56:55PM FOR REZONING PROPERTY GENERAL VICINITY OF 416 AND 4118
02:57:01PM WEST ESTRELLA STREET FOR RS-60 TO PT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
02:57:07PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND SEMI DETACHED.
02:57:10PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
02:57:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:57:13PM NO.
02:57:13PM APPLICANT.
02:57:14PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:57:15PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN.
02:57:19PM BRUCE KASCHYK.
02:57:22PM HERE REPRESENTING ISMAIL HAKKI AKBABA.
02:57:28PM I AM REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT AND ANY QUESTIONS
02:57:30PM THAT MAY ARISE.
02:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
02:57:34PM MISS DOCK, ARE YOU COMING UP?
02:57:36PM NO?
02:57:36PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK.
02:57:39PM >> IT IS MY PROPERTY -- SORRY, ISMAIL HAKKI AKBABA, AND I AM THE
02:57:46PM PROPERTY OWNER.
02:57:47PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR TIME.
02:57:48PM I AM JUST GIVING YOU -- SEEING YOUR HARD WORK.
02:57:51PM I DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ON THE CASE.
02:57:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:57:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:57:57PM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK?
02:57:59PM SIR, MA'AM?
02:58:00PM PLEASE COME UP.
02:58:01PM YES, SIR.
02:58:02PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS, MICHAEL McNABB, RESIDENT
02:58:14PM OF PALMA CEIA WEST AND PRESIDENT OF THE PALMA CEIA
02:58:20PM ASSOCIATION.
02:58:21PM I AM HERE TO TALK FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE THIS AND THE
02:58:26PM BOARD MEMBERS OF PALM MA SEE IS A WEST.
02:58:29PM 60 FEET OF FRONTAGE.
02:58:31PM RS-60.
02:58:33PM RS-60.
02:58:35PM RS-60.
02:58:38PM RS-60, FOUR LEGS OF THE STOOL.
02:58:42PM LONG-TERM PRESIDENT AND BOARD MEMBER, I USUALLY DON'T TAKE
02:58:47PM SIDES WITH NEIGHBOR VERSUS NEIGHBOR DISPUTES.
02:58:49PM LIE CAN AT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT
02:58:53PM IS WORTH MEETING FOR.
02:58:54PM AND PALMA CEIA WEST IS NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
02:58:57PM IN FACT WE ARE IN A GROWTH MODE OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, NEW
02:59:01PM HOUSES GOING UP EVERY WEEK.
02:59:03PM HOPEFULLY YOU READ MY DETAILED LETTER TO ASSISTANT CITY
02:59:11PM ATTORNEY CATE WELLS WITH THE ISSUE I HAD WITH THE FIRST
02:59:13PM HEARING.
02:59:13PM FIRST WITHOUT YOUR QUESTION OR PROMPTING, SAM THOMAS PUT UP
02:59:17PM AN OVERHEAD AND POINTED TO TWO MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THAT
02:59:20PM HE STATED WERE WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY,
02:59:24PM ALTHOUGH HE DID NOT GIVE YOU ANY ADDRESSES OR NAMES, I
02:59:26PM ASSUME HE WAS REFERRING TO THE NEPTUNE GARDENS CONDOMINIUMS
02:59:30PM WHICH IS -- WHICH IS A FULLY RENTED OUT AND ESSENTIAL AN
02:59:36PM APARTMENT BUILDING AND NO OWNERS LIVED THERE.
02:59:38PM BUILT IN 1973 BEFORE REZONING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND
02:59:43PM ZONED CG RIGHT ON HENDERSON.
02:59:45PM THE OTHER PROPERTY, I GUESS, THE SAN RAFAEL PLACE
02:59:48PM CONDOMINIUMS BUILT IN 1984 BEFORE REZONING, ZONED CG.
02:59:54PM AND IT IS NOT IN PALMA CEIA WEST.
02:59:57PM SO I CAN'T EVEN SPEAK TO THAT.
02:59:59PM NEITHER OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE RELEVANT TO THE PD, THE
03:00:03PM DISCUSSION ABOUT DUPLEXES OR TOWNHOUSES IN A SINGLE-FAMILY
03:00:07PM NEIGHBORHOOD THESE TWO PROPERTIES OF NOT -- APPARENTLY NOT
03:00:12PM IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MENTION IN A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT TO
03:00:15PM YOU.
03:00:15PM SECOND.
03:00:19PM WHY DOES IT HAS TO BE A TRANSITION FROM CG COMMERCIAL
03:00:22PM GENERAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
03:00:23PM IF YOU ARE GO TO GO DOWN HENDERSON BOULEVARD, HUNDREDS OR
03:00:29PM NUMEROUS HOUSES RIGHT BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN
03:00:31PM THERE.
03:00:32PM THERE ARE BARS IN THERE.
03:00:33PM RESTAURANTS IN THERE. A JEWELRY STORE IN THERE.
03:00:35PM ALL KINDS OF LIGHT COMMERCIAL IN THERE WITH HOUSES RIGHT
03:00:40PM BEHIND US.
03:00:40PM SOME ARE BEING BUILT ON RIGHT NOW.
03:00:42PM I DON'T SEE A REQUIREMENT FOR A TRANSITION AND I DON'T SEE
03:00:48PM HOW A DUPLEX IS A TRANSITION.
03:00:54PM YOU HAVE TO BE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
03:00:58PM FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS AND COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT
03:01:00PM ARE MERELY OPINIONS AND NOT EVIDENCE OF COMPATIBILITY.
03:01:06PM PLEASE VOTE -- PLEASE, THIS AND VOTE NO ON THIS.
03:01:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
03:01:12PM NEXT SPEAKER.
03:01:15PM YES, MA'AM?
03:01:24PM >> THANK YOU, SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR NAME.
03:01:27PM SANDY SANCHEZ.
03:01:28PM MISS SANCHEZ.
03:01:29PM I SEE YOU, MISS SANCHEZ THANK YOU, ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
03:01:37PM >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
03:01:39PM MY NAME IS JOANNE McNABB.
03:01:41PM I LIVED IN PALMA CEIA WEST FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS AS HAVE BEEN
03:01:50PM NOTED, AT THE FIRST HEARING NOTED MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
03:01:55PM IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THAT TWO OF THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT IN
03:01:59PM PALMA CEIA WEST.
03:02:00PM ANYTHING WEST OF LOIS AVENUE AND WEST OF HENDERSON IS NOT
03:02:04PM WITHIN PALMA CEIA WEST BORDERS.
03:02:07PM NOT SUBSTANTIAL OR COMPETENT EVIDENCE GIVEN BY CITY STAFF.
03:02:11PM I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU VOTE NO ON IN PD.
03:02:14PM THESE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AT RS-60, NO DUPLEXES ALLOWED.
03:02:19PM NO HARDSHIP HERE.
03:02:20PM I AM VERY CONFUSED OF A MERE SIX HOURS AFTER THE VOTE ON
03:02:24PM THIS PD ON FEBRUARY 8, WE HEARD FROM THE PLATFORM, "NO ONE
03:02:29PM DESERVES A PD."
03:02:31PM WHY WAS THIS ONE APPROVED?
03:02:33PM BECAUSE NOT YET 3:30 A.M. OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON?
03:02:37PM ALSO I HEARD IF NOT HERE, THEN WHERE.
03:02:41PM WELL, I CAN TELL WHERE YOU, IN IT IS ZONED FOR DUPLEXES.
03:02:45PM NOT RS-60.
03:02:47PM ALSO IN PAST HEARINGS, I HEARD FROM THE PLATFORM SOUTH TAMPA
03:02:56PM IS FULL.
03:02:56PM IS IT OR IS IT NOT.
03:02:58PM WHEN SOME MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL HAVE MEANING AND WHEN THEY
03:03:01PM DON'T.
03:03:02PM DOES IT TAKE DOZENS OF PEOPLE TO COME SPEAK KEEPING YOU HERE
03:03:05PM UNTIL MIDNIGHT?
03:03:06PM I COULD HAVE BROUGHT FRIENDS, RELATIVES, PARENTS OF MY KIDS'
03:03:10PM FRIENDS TO AGREE WITH ME AS THE APPLICANT DID IN THE FIRST
03:03:13PM HEARING.
03:03:13PM BUT THOSE SPEAKERS HE BROUGHT DIDN'T LIVE IN PALMA CEIA
03:03:17PM WEST.
03:03:17PM THEIR STATEMENTS WERE STRICTLY OPINIONS.
03:03:19PM NOT COMPETENT OR SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
03:03:21PM EVEN ONE PERSON WHO SAID SHE LIVED DIRECTLY EAST OF THE
03:03:24PM SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS IN ERROR.
03:03:26PM THERE IS NOTHING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
03:03:29PM IF YOU APPROVE THIS PD, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MR. X ON CAMERON
03:03:33PM COURT DECIDES TO ASK FOR A PD FOR A DUPLEX.
03:03:36PM X SAYS IT TRANSITIONS TO THOSE DUPLEXES ON ESTRELLA, MISS Q
03:03:42PM AND NEIGHBOR X CAN DO THE SAME THING AND QUIET CUL-DE-SAC OF
03:03:47PM SINGLE HOMES BECOME MULTIFAMILY RENTALS.
03:03:51PM THE OTHER THING IS, NO NEED TO CONSIDER THIS A NECESSARY
03:03:54PM TRANSITION BETWEEN HOMES AND COMMERCIAL.
03:03:57PM THERE IS ALREADY AN ALLEY THERE AND THE QUIET BACK YARD OF
03:04:04PM THESE BUSINESSES.
03:04:05PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES NEXT TO COMMERCIAL CHARACTERS FOR
03:04:10PM 70-PLUS YEARS AND HAS BEEN FINE AND HAVEN'T STOPPED SALES.
03:04:13PM AFTER ALL THIS APPLICANT BOUGHT TWO LOTS ADJACENT TO
03:04:16PM COMMERCIAL AND HE KNEW THE ZONING SO THIS EVIDENCE IS
03:04:27PM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL.
03:04:29PM NO ONE DESERVE AS PD AS YOU SAID AND YOU VOTED FOR 3:30 A.M.
03:04:34PM IN FEBRUARY.
03:04:35PM SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL.
03:04:37PM HAS BEEN STATED BY COUNCIL MANY TEAMS.
03:04:39PM WE DON'T NEED TRANSITION HOUSING THAT REQUIRES PD
03:04:42PM EXCEPTIONS.
03:04:43PM WE HAVE MANAGED HERE AS NEIGHBORS FOR DECADES.
03:04:50PM NO NEED FOR A PD.
03:04:51PM ZONING IS RS-50.
03:04:53PM NO LEGS OF THAT HYPOTHETICAL STOOL THAT GRANTS A PD.
03:04:59PM THE LEGS OF STOOL IS THE PROTECTION FOR THE HOMEOWNERS FOR
03:05:05PM THE ZONING WE ARE ABLE TO COUNT ON AND RELY ON YOU TO BACK
03:05:08PM US UP ON THAT.
03:05:08PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOMEOWNERS DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR COMMUTER
03:05:12PM RENT ZONING, THEIR INVESTMENTS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS
03:05:15PM PROTECTED.
03:05:15PM SO PLEASE CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO NO ON THIS REZONING.
03:05:20PM THANK YOU.
03:05:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:05:23PM YES, MA'AM.
03:05:23PM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.
03:05:26PM IF NOT, THE SPEAKER WILL BE THE FINAL SPEAKER.
03:05:29PM STATE YOUR NAME.
03:05:30PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
03:05:32PM I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
03:05:34PM WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN OF
03:05:40PM MIDDLE.
03:05:40PM SHOULD BUILD TOWNHOUSES.
03:05:43PM IT HAS BEEN A WHEEL.
03:05:44PM I SLEPT SINCE THEN.
03:05:45PM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THESE TOWN HOUSES WILL BE 2500 OR
03:05:50PM 3,000 SQUARE FEET.
03:05:51PM WE ARE NOT BUILDING THE MISSING MIDDLE HERE.
03:05:53PM WE ARE BUILDING TO THE N'TH DEGREE.
03:05:57PM THIS WILL NOT HELP ANYBODY.
03:05:58PM THIS WILL BE $500,000.
03:06:00PM THEY WILL COST $5,000 A MONTH TO RENT.
03:06:03PM YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, WHAT THEY HAVE
03:06:08PM TORN DOWN IS TWO MISSING HOMES.
03:06:12PM THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE REPLACING IT WITH.
03:06:14PM THEY ARE REPLACING IT WITH HIGH-END LUXURY STUFF.
03:06:17PM LET'S BE REAL HERE.
03:06:19PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR REZONING, YOU HAVE
03:06:24PM TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
03:06:26PM IF HE WAS COMING UP HERE SAYING I WILL BUILD SOMETHING
03:06:29PM REASONABLY PRICED.
03:06:31PM I AM ALL IN.
03:06:32PM IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP THEN.
03:06:36PM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
03:06:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:06:40PM REBUTTAL?
03:06:42PM >> YES, SIR.
03:06:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
03:06:43PM >> BRUCE KASCHYK.
03:06:48PM DESIGN CONSULTANTS.
03:06:50PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON AZEELE ABUTTING HENDERSON.
03:06:54PM THE PROPERTY IS BASICALLY AS YOU ARE IN THE BROWN AREAS
03:06:58PM ALL RES-10 LAND USE.
03:07:02PM OVER A HALF ACRE OF PROPERTY THAT ALLOWS FOR FIVE UNITS PER
03:07:06PM ACRE.
03:07:06PM THE REQUEST IS FOUR UNITS PER ACRE WITHOUT ANY WAIVERS AND
03:07:10PM DESIGNED TO UTILIZE THE ALLEY FOR ONE OF THE UNITS.
03:07:13PM SO TO -- TO TRY TO IMPACT -- YOU KNOW, TO REDUCE IMPACT INTO
03:07:17PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:07:18PM SO IT IS -- THE RES-4 DENSITY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
03:07:27PM THIS IS DESIGNATED RES-10.
03:07:30PM >> CAN I STATE ONE MORE THING?
03:07:33PM >> I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
03:07:34PM AND I'M 100% SURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS GOING ON ON THIS
03:07:39PM PROPERTY.
03:07:39PM WHAT I AM BUILDING.
03:07:40PM WHAT I AM GOING TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS GOING TO BE
03:07:44PM POSSIBLE.
03:07:44PM BUT PEOPLE DON'T THEY -- AND THIS EACH BUILDING IS 3,000
03:07:50PM SQUARE FEET TOUCHING THE GROUND, LIKE ITS SPACE.
03:07:53PM I CAN'T PUT 5,000 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE AND NOBODY CAN SAY
03:07:57PM NOTHING.
03:07:57PM AND I CAN PUT, LIKE, DIVIDED THE HOUSE, LIKE RENT A ROOM IF
03:08:02PM I WANT TO MAKE MONEY.
03:08:03PM AND THEN I CAN, YOU KNOW, RENT WHOLE HOUSE LIKE EACH ROOM
03:08:07PM SEPARATELY AND THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, COME WITH TEN CARS.
03:08:11PM AND THEY DON'T -- I LIKE -- PEOPLE JUST COME HEARING AND
03:08:14PM MAKING THE COMMENTS THAT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
03:08:17PM IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING REALLY, LIKE, USEFUL OR -- IT IS
03:08:21PM TAKING THE PEOPLE'S TIME, THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK TO, YOU
03:08:24PM KNOW -- TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT THEIR OPINION, BUT IT DOESN'T
03:08:28PM MAKE SENSE.
03:08:29PM I AM PUTTING 3,000 SQUARE FEET EACH BUILDING.
03:08:32PM I CAN PUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE AND I HAVE A
03:08:36PM RIGHT TO DO IT.
03:08:37PM THEY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT.
03:08:40PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND NOW.
03:08:42PM THANK YOU.
03:08:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:08:46PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:08:46PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:08:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:08:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:08:52PM AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:08:54PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:08:55PM AYE.
03:08:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ 83.
03:09:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL READ IT.
03:09:03PM REZ 24-20.
03:09:05PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
03:09:10PM ORDINANCE REZONING GENERAL VICINITY CITY OF TAMPA TO
03:09:25PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:09:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:09:32PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
03:09:34PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND MANISCALCO VOTING
03:09:43PM NO AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:09:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:09:47PM ITEM NUMBER 84.
03:09:49PM YES, SIR.
03:09:49PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:09:55PM 24-08.
03:09:58PM PROPERTY AT 1911 WEST BEACH STREET.
03:10:01PM REQUEST TO REZONINGS FROM INVESTIGATION 50 TO RM-18,
03:10:10PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
03:10:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 84?
03:10:16PM >> SHE MAY BE ONLINE.
03:10:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT?
03:10:19PM I HAVE A LILIANA.
03:10:20PM IF YOU ARE ONLINE, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
03:10:24PM DID SHE GET SWORN IN?
03:10:26PM IS LILIANA ONLINE?
03:10:30PM TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
03:10:31PM >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
03:10:36PM [SWEARING IN]
03:10:41PM >> YES, I DO.
03:10:42PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
03:10:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
03:10:45PM >> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR BEING HERE TODAY
03:10:56PM AGAIN.
03:10:56PM I WANT TO REITERATE THAT OUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
03:11:02PM CITY'S GOALS, STRATEGIES AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA
03:11:06PM COMPREHENSIVE PLANS INCLUDING THE CITY'S STRATEGIES AND
03:11:08PM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
03:11:09PM AND THAT THE STAFF REPORT WILL DID FIND THAT THE
03:11:13PM PROPOSED RM-18 ZONING DISTRICT IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
03:11:20PM WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE
03:11:22PM LAND USE OF R-5.
03:11:27PM AND WITH THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION WILL NOT ALTER
03:11:32PM THE CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR THIS PORTION OF THE
03:11:34PM OLD WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:11:36PM SO THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M HERE FOR
03:11:39PM ANY QUESTIONS.
03:11:40PM THANK YOU, AGAIN.
03:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
03:11:42PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:11:43PM ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 84?
03:11:47PM I SEE NO ONE AND NO ONE ELSE REGISTERED.
03:11:50PM DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
03:11:52PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:11:54PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:11:57PM SECOND -- TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
03:11:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:12:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:12:02PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:12:03PM OPPOSED?
03:12:04PM THANK YOU.
03:12:04PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, MIND READING 84.
03:12:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE NUMBER 84, FILE NUMBER REZ-24-08,
03:12:12PM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
03:12:14PM REZONING PROPERTY 1911 WEST BEACH STREET IN THE CITY TAMPA,
03:12:20PM FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
03:12:22PM ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-50, REZ SINGLE-FAMILY AND PROVIDING
03:12:28PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:12:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:12:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:12:34PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:12:37PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:12:38PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE AS I HAVE MY FINGER ON THE BUTTON.
03:12:42PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN VOTE NOTHING WITH
03:12:47PM VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:12:50PM >> THANK YOU.
03:12:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
03:12:57PM >> THANK YOU, ALL.
03:12:58PM >>THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
03:13:00PM A REGISTERED APPLICANT ON 86.
03:13:02PM WE WILL GET TO THAT SWEARING IN AT THAT TIME.
03:13:04PM YES, MA'AM, MISS JOHNS.
03:13:05PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:13:07PM THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR
03:13:10PM THE UNIVERSITY PARK MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
03:13:14PM THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED ON FOWLER AVENUE ACROSS FROM USF.
03:13:20PM YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PROJECT BEFORE.
03:13:21PM THEY BROUGHT IT TO YOU ONCE FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
03:13:23PM USF HAVE COMMENTS AND REVISED THEIR SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS
03:13:28PM THOSE COMMENTS AND SUBSTANTIAL AM CHANGES, BUT WE HAVE TO
03:13:31PM COME BACK FOR THE FIRST HEARING.
03:13:33PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT 627-UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A STOREFRONT
03:13:40PM RESIDENTIAL.
03:13:41PM FALLS UNDER HOUSE BILL 1339.
03:13:43PM THAT BILL ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE PLACED IN
03:13:47PM COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES PROVIDING THAT 10%
03:13:52PM OF UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE.
03:13:54PM RAYFORD SOFTBALL DESIGNED BY THE STATE STATUTE AS MORTGAGE
03:13:58PM PAYMENT OR RENT THAT INCLUDES THE INSURANCE, TAXES AND
03:14:02PM UTILITIES THAT ARE NOT -- THAT DO NOT EXCEED OF THE
03:14:06PM MEDIAN ADJUSTED INCOME AND ARE THE HOUSEHOLDS AMI IS 120 AND
03:14:12PM BELOW PER THE STATUTE.
03:14:15PM PERHAPS DECORATION OF RESTRICTIONS ATTACHED TO THE
03:14:18PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WILL IMPOSE THE AFFORDABILITY
03:14:21PM CONVENANCE ON THE DEVELOPER AND PROPERTY.
03:14:23PM THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
03:14:25PM I WANT TO REMIND YOU, YOU ARE NOT VOTING ON A RESOLUTION
03:14:28PM TODAY.
03:14:28PM YOU WILL VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION IF IT GOES TO THE SECOND
03:14:31PM HEARING.
03:14:31PM THE RESOLUTION WILL BE UPLOADED PRIOR TO THAT HEARINGS AND I
03:14:36PM WOULD ASK THAT THE CHAIR ANNOUNCE AT THIS HEARING THE DATE
03:14:39PM AND TIME OF THIS SECOND HEARING AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
03:14:43PM QUESTIONS.
03:14:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS JOHNS?
03:14:46PM I HAVE THAT DATE AND TIME FOR THAT SECOND HEARING.
03:14:48PM YES, SIR.
03:14:50PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:14:52PM JIM SHIMBERG, SHUMAN LAW GROUP.
03:14:55PM AS YOU JUST HEARD YOU HEARD THIS PREVIOUSLY AND LAST TIME WE
03:14:58PM CAME BACK FROM SECOND READING. COMMENTS WITH USF WORKING
03:15:04PM CLOSELY WITH.
03:15:04PM YOU WANTED US TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
03:15:06PM WE HAVE KAREN FROM USF TODAY.
03:15:09PM I WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT IF SHE COULD
03:15:13PM AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
03:15:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:15:16PM YES, MA'AM.
03:15:18PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:15:26PM >> TARYN SABIA, UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, ASSISTANT DEAN
03:15:31PM FOR RESEARCH.
03:15:32PM I AM REPRESENTING THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA TODAY.
03:15:35PM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT COMMENT FOR THE RECORD.
03:15:37PM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA IS PLEASED WITH THE FOCUS ON
03:15:41PM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY FOR OUR STUDENTS THE STREET AND RETAIL
03:15:50PM ACTIVATION OF EXISTING TRANSIT, AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL
03:15:54PM BENEFIT THE ENTIRE FOWLER AVENUE CORRIDOR FOR THE FUTURE,
03:15:58PM AND, THEREFORE, SUPPORTIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR
03:16:02PM THE UNIVERSITY PARK MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
03:16:06PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATION FOR THE PROJECT'S
03:16:09PM DEVELOPMENT AND WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT OF CITY STAFF AND
03:16:17PM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WORKING WITH USF ON THIS PROJECT.
03:16:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:16:23PM ANYTHING FURTHER TO THIS PRESENTATION?
03:16:26PM >> NO, SIR.
03:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
03:16:31PM ON THIS.
03:16:31PM THERE IS NO MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:16:32PM I JUST ANNOUNCE THE SECOND HEARING.
03:16:34PM IS THAT CORRECT, MISS JOHNS.
03:16:37PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT'S CORRECT.
03:16:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, THAT CONCLUDES THIS FIRST
03:16:41PM PUBLIC HEARING.
03:16:42PM THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD MARCH 28, 2024.
03:16:46PM WOULD IT BE FOR 10 A.M.?
03:16:48PM 10:30 A.M.
03:16:52PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 33602.
03:16:55PM SEE YOU MARCH 28.
03:16:57PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:16:57PM NEXT IS UP A REVIEW HEARING.
03:17:18PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
03:17:20PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:17:20PM MAY I PROCEED?
03:17:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:17:23PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ITEM 86 WHICH IS A REVIEW HEARING
03:17:25PM FOR THE APPLICATION SU 1 ARE, 2405 FOR THE PROPERTY 4901 AND
03:17:33PM 4903 SOUTH QUIN HE STREET.
03:17:35PM THE PETITIONER FILED A REQUEST WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
03:17:39PM ALLOW FOR A DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT.
03:17:42PM STAFF DENIED THAT APPLICATION ON JANUARY 8 OF 2024 BECAUSE
03:17:47PM IT DOES NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ON CODE SECTION
03:17:54PM 27-132 SUBSECTIONS C.
03:17:57PM STAFF WILL GO INTO FURTHER IT HE TAIL WHY THE APPLICATION
03:17:59PM WAS DENIED, BUT IT WAS DENIED FOR -- IT WAS DENIED FOR TWO
03:18:03PM REASONS.
03:18:03PM IN YOUR PACKET, CITY COUNCIL, I SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED A COPY
03:18:07PM OF CODE SECTION 27-61 WHICH IS, WHICH GOVERNS THE REVIEW
03:18:13PM HEARING PROCESS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THIS COUNCIL IN
03:18:17PM ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS HEARING AND PROVIDED SAMPLE MOTIONS
03:18:21PM REGARDING THIS MATTER.
03:18:23PM AS I SAID BRIEFLY, STAFF THAT ARE -- THAT WILL APPEAR ONLINE
03:18:27PM AS LAURA MARLEY WILL PROVIDE A DETAILED PRESENTATION WHAT
03:18:31PM THE APPLICATION WAS BY THE PETITIONER TO CITY STAFF AND WILL
03:18:34PM ALSO EXPLAIN WHY STAFF DENIED THAT APPLICATION.
03:18:38PM AT THE -- AS STATED IN CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTIONS J-3.
03:18:46PM CITY COUNCIL WILL VOTE A DE NOVO REVIEW -- DE NOVO HEARING
03:18:50PM WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE AS A
03:18:53PM PART OF THIS HEARING.
03:18:53PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING, ACCORDING 27-61, CITY
03:18:59PM COUNCIL CAN EITHER AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
03:19:03PM ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE APPLICATION OR CITY COUNCIL CAN
03:19:06PM OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND,
03:19:10PM THEREFORE, APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION THAT WAS
03:19:13PM REQUESTED BY THE PETITIONER.
03:19:15PM WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS MARLEY WHO IS
03:19:18PM APPEARING REMOTELY.
03:19:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WERE YOU SWORN IN MA'AM?
03:19:22PM >>LAURA MARLEY: YES, SIR.
03:19:26PM CAN I SHARE MY CAMERA PLEASE.
03:19:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHARE YOUR SCREEN?
03:19:32PM >>LAURA MARLEY: YES, SHARE MY SCREEN.
03:19:34PM CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION?
03:19:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.
03:19:41PM THEY ARE GOING -- THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE YOUR SCREEN BIGGER.
03:19:44PM ALL RIGHT.
03:19:46PM THEY ARE GETTING THERE.
03:19:47PM ALL RIGHT.
03:19:48PM WE CAN SEE YOUR DESKTOP.
03:19:54PM >>LAURA MARLEY: DESKTOP?
03:19:56PM OKAY.
03:19:56PM LET ME MOVE THIS OVER.
03:19:58PM OKAY, CAN YOU SEE IT NOW?
03:20:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE
03:20:06PM BIT BIGGER.
03:20:07PM >>LAURA MARLEY: OKAY.
03:20:10PM PETITIONER IS BAYSIDE ENGINEERING.
03:20:14PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS 115 CENTRAL LCC.
03:20:19PM PROPERTY ADDRESS 4091 AND 4903 SOUTH QUINCY STREET.
03:20:24PM THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL, CG.
03:20:28PM SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS SPECIAL USE 1 FOR DWELLING
03:20:32PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
03:20:33PM AND HERE IS THE -- THE PROPERTY.
03:20:36PM IT IS THE PROPERTY IN RED.
03:20:37PM AND THE PROPERTY RIGHT BELOW IT.
03:20:39PM AND THERE ARE CODE REQUIREMENT --
03:20:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE MOMENT.
03:20:48PM >>CLERK: WE ARE SEEING YOUR PRESENTATION SCREEN.
03:20:50PM IF YOU CAN ALTERNATE.
03:20:53PM >>LAURA MARLEY: OKAY.
03:20:53PM OKAY, CAN YOU SEE -- SEE THE BIG ONE NOW.
03:21:04PM >>CLERK: NO, WE ARE SEEING --
03:21:14PM WE ARE SEEING THE ONE WHERE YOU HAVE THE CISCO
03:21:17PM WINDOW OPEN.
03:21:18PM >>LAURA MARLEY: CAN YOU SEE IT NOW?
03:21:20PM >>CLERK: WE ARE SEEING IT BUT IT IS YOUR PRESENTATION
03:21:23PM SLIDES.
03:21:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE MODE.
03:21:26PM YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE MODE.
03:21:28PM >> THERE YOU GO.
03:21:37PM >>LAURA MARLEY: OKAY.
03:21:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU OKAY, COUNCIL.
03:21:40PM MAY I REQUEST YOU GO BACK PLEASE.
03:21:43PM >>LAURA MARLEY: START FROM THE BEGINNING?
03:21:48PM OKAY.
03:21:49PM PETITIONER BAYSIDE ENGINEERING.
03:21:51PM PROPERTY OWNER, 115 CENTRAL LCC.
03:21:54PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 4901 AND 4903 SOUTH QUINCY STREET.
03:22:00PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL CG.
03:22:02PM SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
03:22:06PM HERE IS A FAMILY IN RED AND THE ONE JUST RIGHT BELOW IT.
03:22:10PM IT DIDN'T GO OVER TO WHOLE PROPERTY.
03:22:13PM AND THE CODE REQUIREMENTS IS SECTION 27-132.
03:22:18PM THE TWO REQUIREMENTS TO OBTAIN THIS SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS A
03:22:23PM SLIDE SHOW WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR
03:22:27PM COLLECTOR STREET AS SHOWN ON THE MAJOR STREET MAP.
03:22:30PM AND LOCATED IN THE OPPOSITE DISTRICT, THE SITE WILL MEET THE
03:22:35PM DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS OF THE RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT AND
03:22:39PM CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
03:22:42PM HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE.
03:22:45PM IT IS PROPOSED TO BE QUINCY STREET, WHICH IS A LOCAL
03:22:49PM ROADWAY.
03:22:54PM DOES NOT MEET THE SETBACKS OF THE FRONT NOR THE REAR.
03:22:57PM AND, AGAIN, HERE, HERE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS.
03:23:00PM AND STAFF RESPONSE TO DIRECT ACCESS FROM SOUTH QUINCY STREET
03:23:07PM WHICH IS A LOCAL STREET.
03:23:08PM AND FROM B, THE FRONT SETBACK IS PROPOSED FOR 20 FEET AND
03:23:14PM THE SIDES ARE 12.
03:23:15PM THE NORTH SIDE SETBACK IS 15.
03:23:18PM THE REAR SETBACK IS 10.
03:23:20PM THE SETBACKS ARE 25 FEET FOR THE FRONT.
03:23:24PM THE REAR IS 20.
03:23:25PM AND THE SIDES ARE 7.
03:23:27PM IT IS PROPOSED TO MEET THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.
03:23:31PM THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
03:23:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:23:36PM YES, MA'AM?
03:23:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE BEFORE.
03:23:39PM NO, NO --
03:23:43PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THE SITE PLAN?
03:23:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO ONE MORE -- FORWARD, FORWARD.
03:23:47PM YEAH, SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE CHOOSING -- SO IT IS
03:23:55PM SUPPOSED TO BE A 25-FOOT QUARTERBACK.
03:24:01PM AND THE BACK SETBACK IS SUPPOSED TO BE 20 BUT THEY ARE
03:24:05PM SHOWING 12?
03:24:07PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THEY ARE SHOWING 10.
03:24:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND SIDE SETBACK IS SUPPOSED TO BE 7.
03:24:13PM AND THEY ARE SHOWING --
03:24:16PM >>LAURA MARLEY: 12 TO THE NORTH AND 15 TO THE SOUTH.
03:24:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:24:19PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:24:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:24:24PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:24:25PM NO?
03:24:26PM YES, MA'AM.
03:24:26PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:24:31PM >>LAURA MARLEY: NO, SIR.
03:24:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, WE GO TO -- WAIT, MR.
03:24:37PM MECHANIK, YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE.
03:24:38PM SIR, WERE YOU -- WAS HE SWORN IN?
03:24:41PM OKAY.
03:24:42PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:24:43PM MR. MECHANIK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:24:45PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS.
03:24:49PM MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
03:24:55PM I HAVE WITH ME AT THE HEARING JEFF CRAFT, WHO IS THE OWNER
03:25:00PM AND ELI PAYNE, WHO IS THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT.
03:25:05PM AND AFTER I SPEAK, THEY WILL SUPPLEMENT MY COMMENTS
03:25:15PM NEGOTIATE ALLEY ASK ELI IF YOU WOULD PUT THE AERIAL ON THE
03:25:23PM ELMO SO I CAN TALK ABOUT IT AS WE GO THROUGH VARIOUS THINGS.
03:25:27PM OKAY.
03:25:28PM THANK YOU.
03:25:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN ACTIVATE THE OVERHEAD SO WE CAN
03:25:32PM SEE.
03:25:32PM ALL RIGHT.
03:25:38PM THERE WE GO.
03:25:38PM DO YOU NEED FOR US TO ZOOM OUT?
03:25:41PM ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT THE TOP BUTTON.
03:25:50PM THERE IT IS.
03:25:50PM THE OTHER WAY.
03:25:52PM GO AHEAD, MR. MECHANIK.
03:25:56PM >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:25:57PM THE SITE HAS CITED TWO AREAS OF INCONSISTENCY WITH THE CODE
03:26:06PM RATING THIS AS A BASIS FOR DENIAL OF THE ACTION.
03:26:11PM I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE AND EXPLAIN TO YOU
03:26:16PM THAT IN FACT OUR PROPOSAL MEETS THE OBJECTIVES SET FORTH IN
03:26:23PM THESE TWO REQUIREMENTS, THEN THERE IS NOTHING WHATSOEVER
03:26:31PM OBJECTIONABLE ABOUT THIS REQUEST.
03:26:32PM THE FIRST IS THAT WE -- OH, MY GOODNESS.
03:26:36PM CAN YOU ALL SEE ME?
03:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE WHAT IS ON THE OVERHEAD THAT THE
03:26:44PM GENTLEMAN PLACED.
03:26:46PM >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY --
03:26:48PM >>CLERK: YOU ARE STILL ON, MR. MECHANIK.
03:26:50PM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
03:26:51PM I AM NOT GOING TO TOUCH THIS ANYMORE.
03:26:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE MONITOR -- WHAT IS ON THE MONITOR, I
03:26:57PM BELIEVE, IS NOT THE -- IT IS NOT THE VIRTUAL.
03:27:00PM -- OH, HE WANTED THAT EXPLAINED?
03:27:07PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:27:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:27:10PM >> THE FIRST DEGREE OF INCONSISTENCY IS THAT THAT THE
03:27:18PM PROPERTY IS NOT ON THE A TER I DON'T REMEMBER OR COLLECTOR
03:27:21PM ROAD.
03:27:21PM IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE EXHIBIT, YOU WILL SEE WE ARE LESS
03:27:24PM THAN 100 FEET FROM CANDY BOULEVARD.
03:27:27PM THE PURPOSE OF THAT REGULATION, OF COURSE, IS TO ENSURE THAT
03:27:35PM IF A DEVELOPMENT/TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT IS EMBEDDED IN A
03:27:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS TO SEND ITS TRAFFIC THROUGH THE
03:27:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE
03:27:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:27:52PM A, WE ARE 100 SOUTH OF GANDY BOULEVARD.
03:27:57PM AND NOT ADJACENT TO ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS BETWEEN OUR
03:28:03PM SITE AND GANDY BOULEVARD.
03:28:05PM THERE IS ZERO IMPACT FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENTERING ONTO GANDY
03:28:14PM BOULEVARD.
03:28:14PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ONES YOU REACH GANDY
03:28:18PM BOULEVARD YOU ARE NOW ON A COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL AND YOU
03:28:27PM HAVE AN IMMEDIATE EASY ACCESS TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, MacDILL
03:28:33PM AVENUE, DALE MABRY AND THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
03:28:35PM COULDN'T HAVE BETTER COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL ACCESS FOR A
03:28:41PM PROJECT -- AND THIS IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING.
03:28:49PM I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT TRIP GENERATION ANALYSIS SHOWED
03:28:52PM THAT OUR TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT IS
03:28:57PM CURRENTLY EXISTING ON THE PREMISE.
03:29:05PM AND FEW CARS ENTERING THE SITE AND AS I INDICATED WE HAD
03:29:11PM AMPLE AND SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR AN ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR
03:29:19PM ROAD.
03:29:19PM THE OTHER AREA OF ALLEGED INCONSISTENCY IS THE SETBACKS.
03:29:28PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THERE MAP AND SOME OF THE NOTATIONS ARE A
03:29:32PM LITTLE HARD TO READ, BUT I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN.
03:29:36PM DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM QUINCY STREET FROM THE SITE IS AN
03:29:41PM ANIMAL CLINIC ZONED PD.
03:29:48PM A COMMERCIAL USE.
03:29:49PM NOT A RESIDENTIAL USE.
03:29:51PM BEHIND MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY AND ALL ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF
03:29:55PM QUINCY IS PD, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL.
03:30:01PM THAT IS A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
03:30:04PM SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR THING, THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE
03:30:09PM EMPLOY RM-24 SETBACKS IS IMPLEMENTED ON THE PREMISE THAT YOU
03:30:20PM ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A COMMERCIAL DASH RESIDENTIAL
03:30:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:30:28PM YOU ARE NO LONGER WANTING IT TO BE COMMERCIAL BUT THE FACT
03:30:31PM REMAINS ALL OF THE USES ON BOTH SIDES OF US, EAST AND WEST
03:30:39PM ARE COMMERCIAL USES AND WE ARE INCREASING -- WE ARE
03:30:44PM PROVIDING INCREASED SETBACKS SUCH THAT WE WOULD SAY WE ARE
03:30:49PM SORT OF MEETING THE RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS MORE THAN HALFWAY.
03:30:54PM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THIS IS REALLY A COMMERCIAL
03:30:59PM STREET.
03:30:59PM SO MY CLIENT IS DOING THINKS PART TO BRING A LITTLE MORE
03:31:06PM RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:31:08PM WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF
03:31:14PM THIS REQUIREMENT FOR INCREASED SETBACKS FOR THE RM-24 THAT
03:31:21PM MISS HURTAK ESTABLISHED WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO MEETING ALL OF
03:31:29PM THE REQUIRED SETBACKS THAT WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING ANY HEIGHT
03:31:32PM LIMITATIONS.
03:31:33PM FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE TOWN HOME
03:31:38PM PROJECT IMMEDIATELY TO OUR WEST WHICH EXISTS TODAY HAS A SIX
03:31:47PM AND A HALF-FOOT REAR SETBACK AND A 20-FOOT FRONT SETBACK.
03:31:51PM WE ARE PROPOSING A 20-FOOT FRONT SETBACK.
03:31:55PM AND A 10-FOOT REAR SETBACK.
03:31:57PM SO WE ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING GREATER SETBACKS THAN THE ONLY
03:32:02PM OTHER TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
03:32:06PM AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU RESPECTFULLY THAT WE MEET THE
03:32:11PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
03:32:18PM WE ARE IMPOSE NOTHING UNDO HARDSHIP ON PUBLIC FACILITY SUCH
03:32:25PM AS SOLID WASTE OR PARKING.
03:32:29PM AND WE MEET ALL THE OTHER CODE REQUIREMENTS AND I WOULD
03:32:32PM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, I WILL
03:32:42PM POINT OUT AND MY CLIENT HAS ADDRESSED WE HAVE NET WIDTH THE
03:32:47PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN EACH INSTANCE, THE CONCERN EXPRESSED BY
03:32:51PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS STORMWATER.
03:32:55PM OF COURSE AS COUNCIL KNOWS, TO MEET STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS,
03:33:02PM BUT MY CLIENT HAS GONE BEYOND THAT AND HAS DESIGNED THIS
03:33:05PM PROJECT TO EXCEED THE CITY STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS.
03:33:09PM AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO -- FOR MR. CRAFT TO SPEAK TO THAT
03:33:17PM IN MORE DETAIL.
03:33:18PM THANK YOU.
03:33:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MECHANIK.
03:33:20PM WHO IS THE NEXT SPEAKER?
03:33:27PM HE SAID HIS CLIENT IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
03:33:29PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:33:30PM >> JEFF CRAFT.
03:33:31PM I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER.
03:33:33PM JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP TODAY REGARDING STORMWATER.
03:33:39PM WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED THIS PROBABLY NINE, TEN MONTHS AGO
03:33:44PM AND THAT TRIGGERED LETTERS FROM OUR NEIGHBORS JUST CONCERNED
03:33:48PM ABOUT STORMWATER.
03:33:52PM WE SUBMITTED IT, OUR PLAN THAT WE SEE IS A NET INCREASE OF
03:33:57PM 700 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SPACE.
03:34:00PM AND CITY OF TAMPA DEEMED THAT DIMINIMUS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE
03:34:05PM TO HAVE A STORMWATER SYSTEM, BUT SINCE WE GOT A RESPONSE
03:34:09PM FROM THE NEIGHBOR, WE WITHDREW YOUR APPLICATION AND
03:34:13PM BASICALLY CAME BACK WITH A FULL-BLOWN STORMWATER SYSTEM
03:34:22PM AND ELI IS THE ENGINEER, 11-C, CITY OF TAMPA STORMWATER
03:34:27PM MANUAL AND ONCE WE INSTALLED THIS SYSTEM, ACTUALLY OUR SITE
03:34:31PM WILL BE A NET IMPROVEMENT FOR ANY STORMWATER ISSUES IN THE
03:34:34PM AREA.
03:34:35PM IF IT STAYED AS IS, IF WE DEVELOPED OUR PROPOSED STRUCTURES,
03:34:43PM WE WOULD IMPROVE IT.
03:34:44PM SO THAT IS BASICALLY ON STORMWATER.
03:34:46PM AND THEN SORT OF LIKE GETTING BACK TO SOME OF THE SETBACKS.
03:34:51PM SO THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS CG.
03:34:55PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
03:34:58PM AND SO -- WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF WE
03:35:02PM WENT CG ON THIS, WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD A FOUR-STORY OFFICE
03:35:07PM BUILDING.
03:35:09PM THAT WILL BE THREE STORIES OVER PARKING OR HEIGHT ON CG
03:35:12PM RESTRICTIONS ARE 45 FEET.
03:35:14PM THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS ON CG ARE ZERO FEET.
03:35:18PM AND THE FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS ON CG ARE TEN FEET.
03:35:24PM BASICALLY FROM -- SORT OF -- LIKE WE ARE GOING FROM CG
03:35:29PM TO RM-24 WHICH WE FEEL IS A DOWNZONING VERY APPROPRIATE FROM
03:35:33PM THE AREA FROM THE GANDY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
03:35:38PM WE GO TO RM-24.
03:35:40PM IT IS TRIGGERING SOME OF THE RM-24 SETBACKS.
03:35:44PM AS WE LOOK AT THIS, MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME BUILDING IS VERY
03:35:48PM APPROPRIATE FROM GANDY GOING INTO THE SINGLE-FAMILY
03:35:50PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:35:52PM THERE ARE TWO EXISTING STRUCTURES ON-SITE.
03:35:55PM ONE IS A RETAIL BUILDING.
03:35:56PM THE OTHER IS A PRETTY DILAPIDATED SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
03:35:59PM TOTAL PARKING FOR THOSE TWO STRUCTURES ARE FOUR.
03:36:07PM AND TWO SPACES PER UNIT IN THE GARAGE AND TWO GUEST SPACES
03:36:12PM PER UNIT OUTSIDE.
03:36:13PM SO IT WILL NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT OR TRAFFIC IMPACT ON
03:36:18PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE SOUTH OF US, WE ABUT AN ALLEY,
03:36:23PM SO IT IS ACTUALLY LIKE THEIR SIDE YARD SETBACKS TO THE
03:36:27PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS 25 FEET.
03:36:30PM IF YOU ADD YOUR ALLEY TO OUR 15.
03:36:32PM AND I THINK THAT -- DO YOU HAVE THEY QUESTIONS?
03:36:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY GENTLEMAN HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
03:36:48PM ARE YOU PART OF THE PRESENTATION, SIR?
03:36:50PM >> NO, I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS FOR ANYTHING ON THE SITE
03:36:54PM ENGINEERING RELATED.
03:36:55PM >> WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL
03:36:59PM LATER.
03:37:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC
03:37:02PM COMMENT.
03:37:03PM ONE PERSON REGISTERED.
03:37:05PM MR. -- IS IT A MR. MARTIN?
03:37:08PM IS THAT PERSON ONLINE?
03:37:09PM AND THEN IN-PERSON.
03:37:11PM >> MR. MARTIN MIGHT BE ONLINE.
03:37:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GO DIRECTLY TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC
03:37:18PM COMMENT.
03:37:18PM WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FIRST?
03:37:21PM YES, SIR.
03:37:21PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:37:22PM >> LAWRENCE GARCIA.
03:37:25PM I HAVE GOT A --
03:37:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:37:56PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:37:57PM >> HELLO, HONORABLE COUNCILMEMBERS.
03:37:59PM I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT ABUTS THIS
03:38:04PM PROPERTY IF THEY WISH TO DEVELOP STANDING STORMWATER RUNOFF
03:38:11PM ON THIS PROPERTY AND ABUTTING PROPERTIES HAS BEEN A MAJOR
03:38:15PM CONCERN DURING EVERY RAINSTORM.
03:38:18PM THE LAND IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND THE WATER TABLE IS VERY
03:38:21PM HIGH.
03:38:25PM I HAVE INSTALLED A SUMP PUMP SYSTEM ON MY PROPERTY TO STOP
03:38:29PM THE WATER FROM INUNDATING THE BUILDING DURING HEAVY SUMMER
03:38:34PM RAINSTORMS.
03:38:35PM AND IT HAS WORKED PRETTY GOOD.
03:38:37PM SOMETIMES THEY GET A LITTLE WATER AND COOKS ENGLISH KITCHEN
03:38:42PM OR ENGLISH DELI ON THE BACK PART OF THE BUILDING.
03:38:47PM A SERIOUSLY -- SERIOUS PROBLEM STANDING WATER AND FLOODING.
03:38:55PM THE CORNER OF GANDY AND QUINCY WHERE THE PARCELS ARE LOCATED
03:39:02PM DURING EVERY RAIN STORM, ACTUALLY FILLS WITH WATER, FLOODS.
03:39:07PM THERE WAS NO -- NO CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM IN PLACE RIGHT
03:39:14PM NOW.
03:39:16PM IF FLOWS DOWN GANDY AND THEN FLOODS.
03:39:18PM I AS ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BELIEVE
03:39:30PM THAT GRANTING ANYTHING LESS THAN A CURRENT ZONING
03:39:34PM REQUIREMENT FOR RM-24 WITH REGARDS TO QUARTERBACKS AS STATED
03:39:42PM IN THIS ZONING CODE REGULATIONS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
03:39:45PM AND WILL ONLY LEAD TO INCREASED FLOODING ISSUES FOR THE
03:39:50PM ABUTTING PROPERTIES.
03:39:51PM THAT IS MY PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
03:39:55PM THESE ARE BOTH COMMERCIAL PARCELS.
03:39:58PM IT WILL RENDER THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PARCEL TO THE WEST
03:40:08PM PRETTY MUCH UNUSABLE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ANY REDUCTIONS
03:40:19PM TO THE RM-24 REQUIRED SETBACKS WILL ELIMINATE TOO MUCH
03:40:23PM NECESSARY PERMEABLE GROUND.
03:40:25PM REQUESTING TO LESSEN THE SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 10 FEET,
03:40:32PM HALF OF WHAT IS REQUIRED BY ZONING CODE IS DRASTIC AND DOES
03:40:36PM NOT TAKE THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER INTO CONSIDERATION.
03:40:42PM LESSENING THE SETBACK TO TEN FEET WILL CAUSE MASSIVE --
03:40:47PM COULD -- WOULD CAUSE THIS MASSIVE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT
03:40:51PM PROJECT SEVERELY APPROACH UPON THE PARCEL ON THE WEST.
03:40:55PM THIS IS -- THIS -- THIS WILL SUBSTANTIALLY DEVALUE THE WEST
03:41:05PM --
03:41:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR --
03:41:08PM >> -- WESTERLY PARCEL AND CAUSING MASSIVE INCREASE OF
03:41:13PM STORMWATER ISSUES FOR THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES.
03:41:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:41:17PM >> I WOULD ASSUME THE REASONING FOR HAVING RM-24 REQUIRE
03:41:22PM 20-FOOT SETBACK IS FOR THAT REASON.
03:41:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, THAT CONCLUDES
03:41:28PM YOUR TIME.
03:41:29PM >> I HAVE MORE TO SAY.
03:41:30PM I HAVE IMPORTANT STUFF TO SAY.
03:41:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:41:33PM >> CAN I CLOSE WITH A COUPLE OF MINUTES?
03:41:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ONLY OFFER THREE MINUTES FOR SPEAKER
03:41:39PM AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:41:40PM >> I THOUGHT IT SAID YOU EXTEND IF YOU WERE -- IF YOU WERE
03:41:43PM AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE --
03:41:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS JUST THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.
03:41:47PM >> ABUT THIS PROPERTY.
03:41:49PM THE GUY ON THE WEST IS REALLY GOING TO BE ENCROACHED UPON BY
03:41:54PM THIS BUILDING WITHOUT A 20-FOOT SETBACK, OKAY.
03:41:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.
03:42:00PM HOW MUCH MORE TIME WOULD YOU LIKE, SIR.
03:42:02PM OR DO YOU NEED.
03:42:03PM ANOTHER MINUTE?
03:42:06PM >> YEAH.
03:42:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE MORE MINUTE.
03:42:08PM SET THE TIMER.
03:42:09PM >> ALL RIGHT, IN CLOSING, IF THIS SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS
03:42:17PM GRANTED ON THIS NONCONFORMING, NONBUILDABLE SMALL PARCEL OF
03:42:24PM LAND AND SQUEEZING A HUGE BUILDING ON, IT WILL SEVERELY
03:42:27PM DIMINISH DAMAGE AND DEVALUE THE TWO ABUTTING PROPERTY
03:42:32PM PARCELS AS DISCUSSED ABOVE.
03:42:37PM THWARTING ANY FUTURE POTENTIAL HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE
03:42:42PM LAND PARCELS THAT CURRENTLY MAKE UP THE -- THE LARGE
03:42:48PM COMMERCIAL PARCEL.
03:42:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
03:42:52PM >> THANK YOU.
03:42:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
03:42:56PM STATE YOUR NAME.
03:42:57PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
03:42:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE HAS TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES IF THESE
03:43:07PM PEOPLE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PRESENCE.
03:43:09PM IT LOOKS LIKE SANDRA IS THE FIRST NAME.
03:43:12PM I DIDN'T CATCH -- SANCHEZ.
03:43:14PM THANK YOU.
03:43:14PM AND ADRIAN -- WHAT IS THE LAST NAME -- LARIMIE.
03:43:23PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
03:43:25PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:43:26PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
03:43:29PM OKAY.
03:43:29PM SO IF YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND YOU
03:43:32PM EXPECT A DIFFERENT RESULT, ISN'T IT INSANITY OR STUPIDITY?
03:43:38PM 800 ACRES INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL LAND HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM
03:43:41PM OUR CITY OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
03:43:44PM ANYWAY, AND MR. MECHANIK REPEATEDLY SAID THAT EVERYTHING
03:43:48PM AROUND IT IS COMMERCIAL.
03:43:49PM THIS IS A COMMERCIAL STREET.
03:43:51PM BUT YET HERE WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION OF RESIDENTIAL.
03:43:55PM I DIDN'T KNOW MR. GARCIA WAS HERE TODAY.
03:43:57PM I THINK IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
03:43:59PM BECAUSE HERE IS THE SUU-1 FROM LAST SUMMER.
03:44:05PM GUESS WHAT?
03:44:06PM BOTH TIMES, THEY WERE DECLINED LAST SUMMER.
03:44:10PM AND NOW FOR THE EXACT SAME THINGS.
03:44:13PM FOR -- NO, SIR, YOU NUT A PETITION FOR REVIEW AND THEN YOU
03:44:18PM WITHDRAW IT --
03:44:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO, NO.
03:44:21PM >> DRIVEWAY ACCESS TO THE SOUTH -- FROM SOUTH QUINCY STREET
03:44:25PM WHICH WAS A LOCAL STREET.
03:44:27PM AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE SETBACK ISSUES, MR. GARCIA I
03:44:32PM TALKED TO LAST SUMMER.
03:44:33PM I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THE SAME PROPERTY UNTIL 30 MINUTES
03:44:36PM AGO AND PLEASE BEAR WITH ME WITH I WANT TO POINT OUT THESE
03:44:40PM ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, BUT YET,
03:44:43PM THERE WAS NO NEIGHBORHOOD NOTICE SENT OUT UNTIL DECEMBER 20.
03:44:49PM AND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ISSUED THEIR DECISION FIVE DAYS
03:44:56PM BEFORE THEY SENT OUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
03:44:59PM YOU GET THAT.
03:45:02PM THAT MEAN THEY SENT OUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
03:45:05PM BECAUSE MR. GARCIA AND THE OTHER FOLKS WHO WERE AROUND IT,
03:45:09PM THEY DROPPED THEIR FIRST PETITION FOR REVIEW.
03:45:11PM AND THEY DON'T SEND OUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE UNTIL AFTER
03:45:15PM THEY GET SHUT DOWN THE SECOND TIME FOR THE EXACT SAME THING?
03:45:20PM WHY ARE WE WASTING STAFF'S -- ARE WE WASTING STAFF'S TIME.
03:45:23PM WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITH THE CODE WITH
03:45:27PM THREE ZONINGS COMING BACK A YEAR LATER WITH THE SAME CRAP.
03:45:30PM THIS GENTLEMAN PUT UP A SITE PLAN WITH NO SIDEWALKS ON IT.
03:45:33PM A TEN-FOOT REAR SETBACK.
03:45:36PM IT HAS COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET SO NO, REASON FOR IT NOT
03:45:40PM TO REMAIN COMMERCIAL.
03:45:41PM IT WAS A BEAUTY SHOP.
03:45:42PM HAS BEEN FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS UNTIL THESE FOLKS
03:45:45PM BOUGHT IT AND THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TO BUILD A BUNCH OF REGS
03:45:49PM WHERE IT IS NOT NECESSARY.
03:45:50PM IT WAS -- I KNOW THE LADY WHO HAD HER SHOP IN THERE.
03:45:54PM BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN PUT IN A PETITION REVIEW
03:45:58PM -- OR A SU1 TWICE FOR THE EXACT SAME THING.
03:46:03PM I AM SORRY, BUT, YEAH, WE MADE A LITTLE SWAMP POND IN THE
03:46:07PM BACK.
03:46:07PM WAIT.
03:46:11PM YOU MADE IT IN THE BACK WHERE IT IS ONLY TEN FOOT FROM THE
03:46:15PM PROPERTY LINE?
03:46:15PM GIVE ME A GREAT.
03:46:16PM ANOTHER CASE OF TEN POUNDS OF CRAP IN A FIVE-POUND BAG.
03:46:20PM I DON'T GET IT.
03:46:22PM THE OTHER TOWNHOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY ARE ANCIENT.
03:46:25PM NO.
03:46:26PM THEY HAVE NO BACK YARD.
03:46:28PM GUESS WHAT, THEY ARE ALWAYS ON THE MARKET FOR RENT AND SALE.
03:46:31PM FLIP, FLIP, FLIP.
03:46:33PM YOU KNOW YES?
03:46:35PM YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE WITH NO GREEN SPACE.
03:46:38PM NO GREEN SPACE ON THAT.
03:46:39PM YOU KNOW WHAT?
03:46:40PM YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CRAPPY PLAN.
03:46:44PM AND YOU CAN CONTROL THIS CRAPPY PLAN AND MAKE SURE THESE
03:46:47PM FOLKS ARE NOT FLOODED OUT BY A CRAPPY PLAN.
03:46:50PM A CRAPPY PLAN WHEN IT WAS PUT IN AS A SU-1 THE FIRST TIME
03:46:55PM AND A CRAPPY PLAN TODAY.
03:46:56PM WHO THEY TALKED TO.
03:46:58PM MAY HAVE TALKED TO THE OTHER APPLICANTS.
03:47:01PM I DON'T HAVE THEIR NAMES.
03:47:04PM BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET IT IN ACELA.
03:47:08PM TWO GRAND LAUREL OAKS.
03:47:12PM PLANNING TO TAKE THEM OUT TOO.
03:47:15PM MULTIPLE THINGS ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
03:47:17PM WHY YOU KEEP FILING IT IN TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY
03:47:22PM TO GET AROUND TO COME IN HERE.
03:47:27PM I AM JUST SAYING.
03:47:27PM WHY IS THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE GOING OUT FIVE DAYS AFTER
03:47:31PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR MADE THAT -- MADE THAT DECISION.
03:47:34PM I AM SORRY.
03:47:38PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO SHOW IT TO YOU IF BECAUSE IT WAS ON
03:47:42PM DECEMBER 15.
03:47:43PM I CALLED ERIC COTTON, WHEN I GOT HOME FROM KENTUCKY WHEN MY
03:47:48PM MOTHER-IN-LAW PASSED.
03:47:50PM I GOT THIS LETTER IN THE MAIL.
03:47:52PM I SAID TO ERIC COTTON, WHAT IS UP WITH THIS, WHY AM I NOW
03:47:56PM JUST GETTING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
03:47:58PM HE SAID I AM SORRY, MAY HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED.
03:48:00PM THE DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED IT.
03:48:02PM STAFF MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED TAMPA BUT THESE GUYS?
03:48:07PM GIVE ME A BREAK.
03:48:08PM WORKS OUT THAT THE WORLD IS FULL OF KARMA.
03:48:10PM THANK YOU.
03:48:11PM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
03:48:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:48:14PM NOW WE GO TO REBUTTAL.
03:48:17PM ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT.
03:48:19PM ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL?
03:48:26PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: COUNCILMAN, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
03:48:27PM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:48:28PM I DON'T KNOW IF MISS MARLEY HAS ANYTHING TO ADD REGARDING
03:48:32PM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
03:48:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS MARLEY, ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE I
03:48:37PM ASK FOR REBUTTAL.
03:48:39PM >>LAURA MARLEY: WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO ADDRESS THE
03:48:41PM SITUATION THAT HAPPENED?
03:48:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE I GO TO REBUTTAL?
03:48:47PM >> IT WAS A STAFF ERROR WHEN STAFF NOTICED THAT -- IT WAS
03:48:50PM THE SAME LETTER THAT THAT WAS ISSUED.
03:48:52PM A DENIAL LETTER.
03:48:56PM AND THE APPLICANT DID NOTICING AND RETRACTED THE LETTER.
03:48:59PM THE LET EVERY WHEN NOTICING WAS DONE.
03:49:03PM IT WAS THE LETTER.
03:49:06PM DENIAL.
03:49:06PM BOTH DENIALS LETTERS.
03:49:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:49:10PM MANISCALCO PLANETARY MECHANIC, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ARE
03:49:14PM REBUTTAL AS SOON AS.
03:49:14PM >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:49:15PM FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THERE IS NOTHING
03:49:19PM UNTOWARD ABOUT US SENDING THE LOTUS.
03:49:23PM WE SENT IT WHEN WE WERE TOLD TO SEND IT BY THE STAFF.
03:49:26PM THE STAFF MAY HAVE COMMITTED AN ERROR THAT WASN'T OUR ERROR.
03:49:34PM AND I RESENT THE FACT WE ARE SOMEHOW BEING BLAMED FOR THAT.
03:49:38PM SECONDLY, MY CLIENT REVISED THE APPLICATION IN ORDER TO
03:49:43PM RESPOND TO CONCERNS OVER STORMWATER.
03:49:47PM THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON THEY REVISED THE -- THE
03:49:52PM APPLICATION.
03:49:52PM AND, AGAIN, I -- I RESENT THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW BY TRYING TO
03:49:58PM IMPROVE THE APPLICATION, THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING
03:50:01PM IMPROBABLE.
03:50:01PM SPEAKING TO MR. MARTIN, HE IS ASSERTING THAT WE ARE GOING TO
03:50:09PM RENDER HIS PROPERTY USELESS.
03:50:13PM TIME GUESS WHAT HE IS THINKING IS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
03:50:18PM GOING TO ISSUE A PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT WITHOUT ANY
03:50:24PM COMPLIANCE WITH STORMWATER REGULATIONS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY
03:50:27PM NOT THE CASE.
03:50:28PM I DON'T BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL IS WITHIN ITS PURSUE TO ASSUME
03:50:34PM THAT THE CITY WILL NOT FOLLOW ITS REGULATIONS AND REQUIRE
03:50:41PM THAT PROPER STORMWATER IS INSTALLED ON THIS PROPERTY.
03:50:44PM ALL I CAN SAY IS, MY CLIENT HAS DESIGNED IT TO ACCOMMODATE
03:50:50PM THE STOP STORMWATER AND WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF BUILDING
03:50:55PM SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT MEET CITY OF TAMPA STORMWATER
03:51:00PM REQUIREMENTS.
03:51:00PM I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT GIVEN MR. MARTIN'S
03:51:10PM VEHEMENT OBJECTION THAT IF THIS APPLICATION WERE TO BE
03:51:15PM DENIED, WE COULD BUILD ON THE PROPERTY A MUCH MORE INTENSE
03:51:20PM PROJECT WHICH BEING 10, 10, 10 AND 10.
03:51:27PM SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY HE COMPELLED IF THIS APPLICATION IS
03:51:32PM DENIED, WE WILL BE COMPELLED TO BUILD A BUILDING WITH MORE
03:51:38PM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE PRESENTING A GREATER RISK OF FLOODING
03:51:49PM THROUGH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE
03:51:51PM WHATSOEVER AND MY CLIENT HAS DONE EVERYTHING WITHIN HIS
03:51:54PM MEANS TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS AND WE
03:52:00PM WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION
03:52:06PM TODAY, THANK YOU.
03:52:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:52:08PM NOT ANYTHING FURTHER, A MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:52:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:52:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:52:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
03:52:18PM YES, MA'AM?
03:52:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
03:52:22PM DECISION ON SU-12405 FOR PROPERTIES 4901 AND 4903 SOUTH
03:52:29PM QUINCY STREET BECAUSE THE PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE
03:52:31PM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT SPECIFIC CRITERIA
03:52:38PM CITY OF TAMPA 27-1342 THAT THE DWELLING AND SINGLE-FAMILY
03:52:41PM DETACHED SHOULD BE WAIVED.
03:52:42PM MAINLY THERE IS -- THEY PROVIDED NO COMPETENT AND
03:52:46PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WHY THESE SETBACKS CANNOT BE MADE SINCE
03:52:51PM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL -- NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDINGS ARE
03:52:54PM COMMERCIAL.
03:52:54PM A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP IN MY OPINION.
03:52:56PM AND THEY PROVIDED NO COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS
03:53:01PM TO WHY THEY NEEDED TO CHANGE THE SETBACKS.
03:53:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:53:07PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:53:08PM IF NOT, ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:53:10PM ROLL CALL.
03:53:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:53:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:53:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:53:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
03:53:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:53:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
03:53:25PM WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
03:53:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MADAM CLERK, THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA
03:53:33PM AND STAFF ITEMS.
03:53:34PM NUMBER 48 WAS THE ONE PULLED AND ASKED TO BE HEARD FIRST.
03:53:38PM FOLLOWED WITH 29 AND CONTINUE WITH STAFF REPORTS.
03:53:41PM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:53:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY CONCERN WITH 48 IS THE SAME AS I HAD WITH
03:53:50PM THE LEAD CONTRACTS.
03:53:51PM WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE -- 48 IS AN OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT WITH
03:53:59PM THE -- WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FIRMS, ARCHITECTS AND
03:54:04PM OTHERS.
03:54:04PM IT -- WHAT THIS DOES, IT ENABLES STAFF TO APPROVE CONTRACTS
03:54:09PM WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL.
03:54:10PM IT SAYS THAT THEY CAN ONLY GO UP TO ONE CONTRACT AT 100,000.
03:54:16PM WE HAVE SEEN CASES WHERE THERE ARE CONTRACTS AT 99,999.
03:54:21PM OBVIOUSLY TO CIRCUMVENT COUNCIL.
03:54:24PM AND NOTHING TO PREVENT THEM FROM STACKING THEY CAN DO
03:54:32PM 100,000.
03:54:33PM I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
03:54:34PM I THINK WE NEED MORE PUBLIC OVERSIGHT, MORE COMPETITIVE BIDS
03:54:39PM IN THESE CASES AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LITHIA CAN EASILY BE
03:54:44PM ACCESSED WITH -- WITHOUT PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
03:54:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:54:52PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
03:54:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF TO REPRESENT THIS ISSUE.
03:54:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT HERE.
03:54:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE AND WHAT THE
03:55:00PM ISSUE.
03:55:00PM >> RICHARD MUNDERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
03:55:07PM THESE 14 FIRMS WILL BRING TOTAL OF ARCHITECTURAL AND
03:55:11PM ENGINEERING FIRMS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY FOR THE WORK ORDER
03:55:14PM AS NEEDED TO 328.
03:55:16PM THESE ARE SMALL, SPECIALTY WORK ORDERS.
03:55:20PM TYPICALLY AND PROJECT BY PROJECT.
03:55:26PM THEY ARE VIVID.
03:55:27PM THIS PAST YEAR 15 DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS UTILIZED 40
03:55:33PM DIFFERENT FIRMS ACROSS 60 DIFFERENT WORK ORDERS.
03:55:37PM THE AVERAGE COST OF EACH ONE OF THOSE WORK ORDER ABOUT
03:55:41PM $70,000.
03:55:41PM LIKE I SAID EACH ONE OF THESE WORK ORDER AGREEMENTS
03:55:49PM REPRESENT A SINGLE PROJECT.
03:55:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO US -- CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR US AND FOR
03:55:54PM THE PUBLIC HOW US DENYING THIS OR ACCEPTING THIS EITHER
03:55:58PM BENEFITS OR INHIBITS THE CITY, THE WORK OF THE CITY AND
03:56:02PM BENEFITS THE -- THE TAXPAYER AND THE CITY?
03:56:05PM >> WELL, I MEAN, THESE ADDITIONAL FIRMS JUST GIVE US A
03:56:09PM BIGGER -- LARGER PULL.
03:56:10PM MANY OF THESE ARE SPECIALTY FIRMS, ENVIRONMENTAL TRAFFIC
03:56:13PM STUDIES, THAT KIND OF THING AND GIVES US A BIGGER POOL FOR
03:56:16PM AVAILABILITY BECAUSE WHAT WE RUN UP AGAINST.
03:56:18PM THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME IS, WE NEED FOR SOMEONE TO PERFORM
03:56:22PM WORK.
03:56:23PM AND THE INDUSTRY IS SO BUSY RIGHT NOW.
03:56:24PM NO ONE HAS THE AVAILABILITY.
03:56:26PM SO WE OPENED THIS UP TWICE A YEAR TO ALLOW MORE FIRMS.
03:56:31PM LIKE I SAID, THE BENEFIT TO THE CITIES THAT GIVE US A LARGER
03:56:35PM POOL TO CHOOSE FROM.
03:56:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE WERE TO DENY THIS.
03:56:39PM >> 314 FIRMS INSTEAD OF 328.
03:56:42PM THESE 14 FIRMS WOULDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY DO WORK WITHIN
03:56:45PM THE CITY.
03:56:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU.
03:56:48PM >> JUSTICE REASON VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:56:51PM I WANT TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK.
03:56:53PM A SECTION OF CITY CODE THAT IS RELEVANT.
03:56:56PM SECTION 280.
03:56:59PM NOT PROVISION ANY TAMPA OF CITY CODE, WORK ORDER -- THESE
03:57:05PM ARE WORK ORDERS FOR THE DIVISION OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
03:57:09PM EXISTING $100,000 TO ANY SINGLE PROVIDER FOR ANY PROJECT
03:57:13PM SHALL BE ALLOWED OR PERMITTED WITH THE CITY IN LESS AND
03:57:17PM UNTIL SUCH WORK ORDER SHALL FIRST BE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION
03:57:20PM PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
03:57:22PM SO THERE IS SOME CHECKS HERE.
03:57:27PM IT IS IN THE CODE AND, THERE.
03:57:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY ELSE.
03:57:33PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:57:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS MISS NAME, JUSTIN?
03:57:40PM JUSTIN?
03:57:41PM JUSTIN, WHAT YOU READ IS A WORK ORDER FOR A PROJECT.
03:57:43PM SO IF THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PROJECTS, THEY CAN STACK THEM,
03:57:47PM CORRECT?
03:57:47PM THEY CAN DO -- SOMEBODY CAN DO 9,999 CONTRACTS WITHOUT
03:57:53PM COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT?
03:57:57PM >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS HOW DO WE DISTRIBUTE THE WORK IS
03:58:00PM ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING SOMETHING IN.
03:58:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I AM TALKING ABOUT -- THERE ARE CASES
03:58:04PM THAT WE HAVE SEEN -- FOUND THEM THROUGH PUBLIC OF THE
03:58:10PM $99,999 CONTRACTS OBVIOUSLY AN EVENT TO CIRCUMVENT PUBLIC
03:58:15PM SCRUTINY.
03:58:15PM MY CONCERN IS IF WE HAVE -- THE HYPOTHETICAL BUT IF THE CITY
03:58:22PM GATE OUT TEN $99,999 CONTRACT ESSENTIALLY $1 MILLION WITHOUT
03:58:30PM CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND SCRUTINY.
03:58:34PM MR. MUTTERBACK IS TRYING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS.
03:58:37PM HE CHANGED THEM A FEW MONTHS AGO AND I AM TRYING TO CHANGE
03:58:40PM THEM FURTHER.
03:58:41PM BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING, OTHER ARGUMENT 300 OR SOME OTHER
03:58:46PM CONTRACTS.
03:58:46PM THE PROBLEM IS ONCE WE APPROVE THESE, STAFF SAYS YOU
03:58:50PM APPROVED IT FOR FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE ONCE CITY COUNCIL
03:58:53PM APPROVES SOMETHING, THEY CAN'T DO IT.
03:58:55PM WE NEED TO STOP ALL TOGETHER AND NOT ALLOW THIS KIND OF
03:58:58PM THING TO HAPPEN.
03:58:59PM THE QUESTION ON STACKING.
03:59:01PM THEY CAN'T STACK.
03:59:05PM DOES NOT PREVENT THEM FROM ADDING MULTIPLE $99,999
03:59:11PM CONTRACTS.
03:59:11PM >> FOR ONE PROJECT, NO, WE DO NOT --
03:59:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: SAYS ONE PROJECT
03:59:16PM BUT TEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS THEY CONCEIVABLY GIVE OUT TEN
03:59:21PM DIFFERENT $99,999 CONTRACTS WITHOUT PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
03:59:26PM >> UNDER THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT THAT DOES NOT GO TO CITY
03:59:31PM COUNCIL.
03:59:31PM THEY COULD HYPOTHETICALLY DO IT.
03:59:33PM WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE TO DO -- OR QUARTERS
03:59:38PM THAT WE ISSUE IN A YEAR?
03:59:39PM >> LIKE WE SAID, THIS PAST YEAR 2023, WE --
03:59:47PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
03:59:49PM MOVE THAT UP.
03:59:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MUTTERBACK IS TRYING TO CLEAN THIS UP.
03:59:58PM I AM ON COUNCIL FOR THREE MORE YEARS.
04:00:01PM I WANT TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC BEYOND THAT IDEALLY BECAUSE WE
04:00:05PM DON'T WHO WILL BE IN OFFICE IN THE FUTURE AND IF THEY GO
04:00:08PM BACK TO NO COMPETITIVE BIDS AND LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WE
04:00:12PM COULD ENDS UP WITH A LOT OF PROBLEMS LIKE WE DID BEFORE.
04:00:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT DOES THE PURPLE LINE MEAN?
04:00:18PM >> THE PURPLE LINE IS DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THE RED INDICATES
04:00:22PM NUMBER OF WORK ORDERS ISSUED TO A PARTICULAR CONSULTANT.
04:00:26PM 45 CONSULTANTS ACROSS THE BOTTOM.
04:00:29PM THAT BOTTOM -- I KNOW IT IS HARD TO SEE, THE BOTTOM RED IS
04:00:33PM ONE.
04:00:33PM ONE OF THE 35 RECEIVED ONE.
04:00:36PM ONLY TWO FIRMS RECEIVED MORE THAN TWO AND THIS IS SPECIALTY
04:00:40PM -- ONE DOES SPECIALTY TRAFFIC STUDIES AND OTHER
04:00:44PM ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING.
04:00:45PM EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION AS REQUIRED BY LAW EQUABLY.
04:00:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ARE THE -- I SEE TOTALS.
04:00:59PM THE BLUE LINE TO THE RIGHT.
04:01:00PM IN OTHER WORDS, IS THIS GOING TO STOP SOMETHING -- ARE WE
04:01:05PM ALONE THAT DO THIS OR CITIES DO IT?
04:01:09PM >> EVERY CITY WHERE I EVER WORKED HAD PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
04:01:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF CONTRACTS THAT COME
04:01:16PM OUT OF ONE OF THESE.
04:01:17PM IN OTHER WORDS, YOU GIVE ME A CONTRACT TO FIX THIS PAPER.
04:01:20PM ALL RIGHT.
04:01:20PM AND YOU GOT 38 OR 40 --
04:01:24PM >> WE ARE SAYING UP TO TWO -- UP TO $200,000 CAN BE BY WORK
04:01:28PM ORDER.
04:01:29PM AFTER THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ITS OWN -- BE ADVERTISED AS
04:01:33PM ITS OWN RFQ.
04:01:34PM AND THEN UP TO $100,000 IS THE HELD THERE HOLD THAT STAFF
04:01:39PM CAN IMPROVE.
04:01:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COUNCIL IT CAME BACK FOUR YEARS BACK AND
04:01:48PM RAISED IT $100,000.
04:01:51PM >> YES.
04:01:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM THINKING WAY BACK AND THEN PUT MY
04:01:55PM COMPUTER ON.
04:01:56PM >> HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE TYPE OF EMERGENCIES THAT HAVE --
04:02:05PM BECAUSE IT HAPPENED RIGHT NOW.
04:02:06PM ARE YOU GOING TO GET SOMEONE TO FIX IT RIGHT NOW, WHATEVER
04:02:09PM IT IS?
04:02:10PM >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EMERGENCY, BUT ALL OF THESE -- THEY
04:02:13PM ARE SPECIALTY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT TYPICALLY -- IF
04:02:16PM THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CCNA PROJECT.
04:02:20PM >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS.
04:02:24PM GIVE ME A SCENARIO SO THEY UNDERSTAND.
04:02:29PM >> LIKE I SAID.
04:02:29PM TRAFFIC STUDIES.
04:02:31PM YOU KNOW IF YOU WERE PREPLANNING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
04:02:34PM PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU WILL NEED TRAFFIC STUDIES AND
04:02:38PM REQUIRED BY STATE PERMITS TO DO CERTAIN MONITORING AND ANY
04:02:43PM TYPE OF SPECIALTY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING, ELECTRICAL
04:02:48PM ENGINEERING, AND MECHANICAL --
04:02:52PM >>GUDIO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:03:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE
04:03:02PM THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THAT CAUGHT MY EAR BUT
04:03:07PM SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU ANSWER IT IN A SATISFACTORY WAY.
04:03:10PM I THINK THAT US HAVING THAT OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY AND
04:03:13PM THAT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IS IMPORTANT AND THE CONCERN
04:03:16PM ABOUT STACKING.
04:03:16PM BUT WHAT HAD YOU JUST SAID YOU ARE REQUIRED BY LATE LAW FOR
04:03:20PM EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION.
04:03:22PM THAT, IN ITSELF BY STATE LAW, PREVENT SIGNIFICANT STACKING
04:03:29PM SO YOU COULDN'T DISPROPORTIONATELY AWARD YOUR MOST FAVORABLE
04:03:35PM CANDIDATE A MILLION IN CONTRACT RIGHT UNDER THE THRESHOLD.
04:03:37PM THAT'S CORRECT, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME?
04:03:40PM >> CORRECT.
04:03:41PM >> STATE LAW PREEMPTS THAT CONCERN.
04:03:44PM STACKING.
04:03:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
04:03:48PM LOOK AT -- THE TOP LINES THERE.
04:03:49PM WHAT IS THE TOTAL OF THAT.
04:03:51PM I CAN'T READ THE NUMBER.
04:03:59PM >> THIS IS A $295,000.
04:04:01PM ONE AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT AND ONE AT THE WATER PLANT.
04:04:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: CONCEIVABLY IF THOSE WERE THREE $99,999
04:04:13PM CONTRACTS THEY WOULD BE APPROVED AS MANY AS THERE ARE NOW.
04:04:16PM ANYWAY, I WILL MAKE A MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS TO ADDRESS THAT
04:04:19PM LOOPHOLE.
04:04:20PM I AM JUST GOING -- I AM GOING TO VOTE KNOW ON THIS.
04:04:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO MOTION TO CLOSE.
04:04:27PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE THE ALTERNATE IN THE PUBLIC
04:04:31PM WORKS COMMITTEE.
04:04:32PM YOU MIND MOVING 49 --
04:04:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: 48.
04:04:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLDS ON A SECOND.
04:04:39PM SO MANY NOTES THERE.
04:04:41PM 29 IS NEXT.
04:04:43PM SO 48?
04:04:44PM YES, SIR.
04:04:44PM YOU ARE THE ALTERNATE.
04:04:46PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE IT.
04:04:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL MOVE IT SIR.
04:04:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:04:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:04:55PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:04:59PM IN ANY NOs.
04:05:02PM >>CLERK:kt VOTE NOTHING AND HURTAK ABSENT AT VOTE.
04:05:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BAIRD, NUMBER 29, $657 MILLION.
04:05:14PM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
04:05:19PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
04:05:20PM RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT WITH DALLAS ONE CONSTRUCTION WITH
04:05:23PM METER HEIGHT VALVE INSTALLATION AND REPLACEMENT.
04:05:28PM FOUR BIDDERS IN 2022 AND THIS CONTRACT IS SET UP FOR ONE
04:05:33PM YEAR WITH TWO ONE-YEAR RENEWALS.
04:05:36PM WE HAVE RENEWED -- TWO OF THE CONTRACTOR INSPECTION WILL BE
04:05:42PM THE THIRD.
04:05:43PM FOURTH CONTRACTOR HAS DECLINED TO RENEW FOR A SECOND YEAR.
04:05:49PM WATCH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
04:05:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
04:05:53PM YOU AND I SPOKE BY PHONE REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
04:05:56PM ANY CONCERNS I HAVE ARE ADDRESSED.
04:05:59PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
04:06:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR THIS.
04:06:04PM AND WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM AND I WILL ADDRESS IT IS
04:06:09PM BUT NOT TODAY.
04:06:10PM WE NEED TO STOP THE DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACTS.
04:06:12PM IT GIVES TOO MUCH LEEWAY.
04:06:14PM 50% TO 100% MORE THAN THEY ORIGINALLY WERE THOUGHT OF.
04:06:19PM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE PAYING A MARK-UP TO THE
04:06:23PM ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FIRM SEPARATE DESIGN FROM BUILT.
04:06:28PM AND 5% OR 10% OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
04:06:32PM NO WONDER WHY IT GOES FROM $6 MILLION TO $1 1 MILLION.
04:06:38PM AT SOME POINT I WANT TO TAKE THIS LOOPHOLE OUT TO CLEAN OUT
04:06:44PM A NUMBER OF THINGS.
04:06:46PM MR. BAIRD AND MR. MUNDERBACK IS TRYING TO CLEAN UP THESE
04:06:52PM THINGS.
04:06:53PM WE ARE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE LOOPHOLES AS WE GO.
04:06:56PM THANK YOU.
04:06:57PM >>BRAD BAIRD: MR. CHAIR THIS WAS A DESIGN BUILD BID BUILD.
04:07:04PM NOT A DESIGN-BUILD.
04:07:06PM WE DID RECEIVE BIDS.
04:07:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DESIGN BID MR.
04:07:12PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE SEPARATED DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ON THIS.
04:07:19PM I MAY SHOW WHAT A VALVE LOOKS LIKE.
04:07:22PM I AM NOT SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS HOW BIG WE ARE
04:07:29PM LOOKING AT.
04:07:30PM THESE VALVES IS THE SIZE OF A PERSON.
04:07:34PM AND HAPPENS TO BE THE INTERSECTION OF JACKSON AND ASHLEY.
04:07:40PM AND WE HAD TO PUT IN A LINE STOP TO STOP THE FLOW.
04:07:43PM REPLACE THE VALVE AND RESTORE THE ENTIRE INTERSECTION.
04:07:50PM SOME PEOPLE WHEN THEY THINK OF VALVES, THINKING OF A VAL
04:07:55PM VERSION UNDER A SINK.
04:07:56PM THIS IS A 12-INCH VALVE.
04:07:59PM WE HAVE VALVES OF A FOUR AND A FOUR AND A HALF FEET.
04:08:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: INTERESTING THAT A BOX CULVERT IS ABOUT
04:08:06PM THE SIZE OF A BEDROOM.
04:08:08PM WOULD YOU LIKE MOVE THIS ITEM 29, SIR?
04:08:15PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:08:16PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:08:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:08:18PM OPPOSE?
04:08:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BAIRD, UP FOR 89 AND 09.
04:08:25PM >>BRAD BAIRD: 89 AND 90, I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR.
04:08:28PM ERIC WEISS.
04:08:30PM >>ERIC WEISS: GOOD AFTERNOON, ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DIRECTOR.
04:08:40PM THE REHABILITATION PROJECT.
04:08:41PM THE BACKGROUND -- THIS PUMPING STATION WAS ORIGINALLY
04:08:44PM CONSTRUCTED IN 1955.
04:08:45PM IT IS NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD RIGHT IN FRONT
04:08:49PM OF MONTE CARLO TOWER AND MASON STREET.
04:08:54PM COSTS HAVE GONE UP SINCE WE STARTED THIS PROJECT IN 2019.
04:08:59PM FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
04:09:01PM ONE IS THAT THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PROJECT -- PEOPLE DON'T
04:09:05PM KNOW THAT THIS PUMPING STATION IS TWO STORIES DEEP BELOW
04:09:10PM GRADE.
04:09:10PM ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, ELECTRICAL PANELS, MOTORS AND PUMPS
04:09:17PM BECAUSE OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE, WE COULD GET
04:09:22PM MORE HURRICANES COME THROUGH.
04:09:23PM IF THAT HAPPENS IT WOULD FLOOD THIS PUMPING STATION AND NOT
04:09:27PM ALLOW US TO PUMP OVER MILLION GALLONS FROM THE PUMP STATION
04:09:31PM TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
04:09:33PM IN THAT IS SOME OF THE COST INCREASES.
04:09:36PM BACKBONE OF THE PROJECT IS SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
04:09:40PM WEIGH WANT TO TAKE ALL THE EQUIPMENT OUT AND PUT IT AT
04:09:45PM BUILDING ABOVE WHAT?
04:09:46PM WELL, WHEN WE GOT TO DESIGN, NEW CORPS OF ENGINEERING RULES
04:09:52PM OF THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE.
04:09:53PM THINKING OF A NORMAL BUILDING MAINTAIN 120 MILES PER HOUR
04:09:58PM BUT THE CORP OF ENGINEER SAID NO, CLOSE TO THE BAY AND IF
04:10:04PM CASE WAVES SMASH AGAIN IT.
04:10:07PM SAME BUILDING AND A LOT BIGGER.
04:10:09PM WALLS 10 INCHES THICK.
04:10:12PM AND YOU CAN MOVE THE BUILDING OFF THE SLAB.
04:10:15PM THE SECOND REASON.
04:10:20PM IF YOU EVER TRIED TO COME OUT ON MASON STREET TO HEAD NORTH
04:10:25PM ON BAYSHORE, AND YOU ARE IN THE MEDIAN, THE EXISTING PUMPING
04:10:30PM STATION IS SORT OF A SITE OBSTRUCTION.
04:10:33PM WE TRY TO ADDRESS THAT AND MOVE THAT BUILDING ABOUT 100 FEET
04:10:36PM SOUTH.
04:10:37PM DOING THAT, ARE YOU ADDED A LOT OF HUGE COPPER WIRES WHERE
04:10:41PM THE PUMPING WERE TO THE BUILDING.
04:10:44PM THE THIRD THING IS REALLY INFLATION.
04:10:46PM WE USE ORIGINALLY A 2019 NUMBER FROM OTHER CONTRACTS AND OUR
04:10:55PM PUMPING STATION MASTER PLAN.
04:10:56PM SENSE THEN, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
04:10:58PM SOME OF THESE PRICES HAVE DOUBLED.
04:11:01PM ALL THREE OF THOSE COMBINED HAVE INCREASED PRICE OF THIS
04:11:04PM CONTRACT, BUT IT IS STILL SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE
04:11:08PM WANTED TO BUILD.
04:11:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:11:11PM ALL VERY FASCINATING.
04:11:12PM YOU SAID WHEN IT WAS BUILT -- YOU SAY NOW IT IS IN THE
04:11:17PM MIDDLE OF BAYSHORE.
04:11:17PM IN THE MEDIAN AREA.
04:11:19PM WIDEN THE ROAD SINCE THEN.
04:11:21PM WE ALWAYS WONDERED.
04:11:22PM AT THE BEGINNING NOT TWO LANE NORTH AND SOUTH KIND OF THING.
04:11:26PM >> FUNNY YOU ASK, RIGHT OUTSIDE MY OFFICE IS A BLACK AND
04:11:29PM WHITE PICTURE OF BAYSHORE PUMPING STATION UNDER
04:11:34PM CONSTRUCTION.
04:11:35PM HARD TO TELL.
04:11:36PM I DON'T THINK IT WAS -- THE SOUTHBOUND LANES SEPARATED AT
04:11:39PM THAT TIME I THINK THAT WAS ADDED LATER.
04:11:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU E-MAIL ME THAT PHOTO.
04:11:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NERD.
04:11:51PM [LAUGHTER]
04:11:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I TWO LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT THERE.
04:11:54PM MONTE CARLO WAS A HOSPITAL.
04:12:01PM THIS HAS A LIFESPAN SINCE 1955 AND DUE FOR REPLACEMENT.
04:12:05PM LASTED ALMOST 70 YEARS.
04:12:07PM >> 70 YEARS.
04:12:08PM THE SUSTAINABILITY WILL LAST ANOTHER 70 YEARS.
04:12:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MAJOR INVESTMENT AND WE GET OUR
04:12:14PM MONEY'S WORTH.
04:12:15PM MY MOTHER -- NOT TO MAKE ANYONE FEEL OLD AND YOUNG, MY
04:12:20PM MOTHER WASN'T BORN -- I KNOW, I KNOW, I DID A DISCLAIMER.
04:12:25PM PART OF THE 2016 STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
04:12:30PM >>THE WASTEWATER IS PART OF THE PIPES PROGRAM.
04:12:31PM AND PART OF THAT WE DID A PUMPING STATION MASTER PLAN, AND
04:12:34PM THIS WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MENTIONED
04:12:37PM PRICE ESCALATION OR INFLATIONARY.
04:12:40PM THAT WAS A 2016 PROJECT.
04:12:42PM IF YOU LOOK AT ADDRESSING FLOODING, WE SET ASIDE -- AND
04:12:48PM EVERYTHING HAS GOTTEN MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE SINCE.
04:12:51PM THIS IS PART OF PIPES.
04:12:53PM ALL RIGHT, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
04:12:55PM YES, SIR.
04:12:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY I MISSED IT.
04:12:58PM WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE FACILITY THERE ALREADY.
04:13:01PM >> IMPACT TO WHAT?
04:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE FACILITY ALREADY IN FRONT OF THE MONTE
04:13:06PM CARLO.
04:13:06PM >> YOU ARE OUT AT THE MEDIAN AND HAVE A SITE OBSTRUCTION.
04:13:10PM MET WITH MONTY TOWER AND THIS WILL BE RIGHT THERE.
04:13:15PM BUT 100 FEET SOUTH.
04:13:17PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW A GENERATOR BUILDING THAT WE DID
04:13:20PM ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO.
04:13:21PM BUT A LOT OF LANDSCAPE AROUND IT WHAT WE WILL DO ANOTHER
04:13:26PM BUILDING JUST LIKE THAT AT THE SAME HEIGHT.
04:13:29PM AND TAKES AWAY THAT SITE OBSTRUCTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
04:13:32PM ROAD.
04:13:32PM >> BUT -- WHICH ONE WAS IT THAT WAS BUILT, 25 YEARS AGO THAT
04:13:37PM WAS BUILT?
04:13:37PM I REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS PUT UP, THE MONTE CARLO.
04:13:48PM PEOPLE WERE UPDATE.
04:13:51PM WILL IT BE THE SAME SIZE?
04:13:53PM >> THE SAME SIZE.
04:13:53PM WE MET WITH THEM IN AND HAD A PUBLIC MEETING AND EVERYBODY
04:13:56PM WAS.
04:13:59PM >> THEN IT WILL BE IN SITE OF.
04:14:04PM >> WE SHOWED THE FEBRUARY RATER.
04:14:17PM >> DID YOU INFORM OTHER BAYSHORE OWNER?
04:14:20PM >> CORRECT.
04:14:21PM ONE SPECIFICALLY WITH MONTE CARLO AND ONE A WOMEN'S CLUB UP
04:14:28PM THE STREET AND INVITED ANYBODY WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED.
04:14:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A HIGH SCHOOL NEXT TO MONTY CARLO.
04:14:34PM >> DIRECT, WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO BAY TO BAY AND EUCLID AND
04:14:38PM INVITED EVERYBODY.
04:14:41PM >> 100 FEET INTERSECTION OF MASON.
04:14:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FURTHER SOUTH IN.
04:14:51PM >> CORRECT.
04:14:51PM FURTHER SOUTH.
04:14:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN FRONT OF ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES?
04:14:57PM >> YOU KNOW THE GENERATOR WHERE IT IS NOW, IT WILL BE NORTH
04:15:00PM OF THERE 100 FEET.
04:15:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NORTH.
04:15:03PM SO IT IS STILL --
04:15:04PM >> YEAH, NORTH OF THE EXISTING GENERATOR BUILDING BUT
04:15:07PM DIRECTLY NORTH.
04:15:07PM BUT STILL FAR SOUTH OF THE MASON STREET.
04:15:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN ANTICIPATE THAT THE THING IS IF YOU
04:15:15PM GO BACK WITH ANOTHER ROUND OF COMMUNICATION, IT WILL JUST
04:15:18PM REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF E-MAILS AND CALLS TO FORWARD WITH YOU
04:15:24PM ALL BECAUSE WE WILL GET FLOODED WITH THEM.
04:15:27PM YOU WILL GET THEM TOO BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVERYBODY AND
04:15:32PM ANYTHING -- IT WILL SAVE YOU TIME AT THE BACK END WHEN YOU
04:15:37PM WON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO ANGRY PEOPLE.
04:15:39PM MY SUGGESTION IS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SENDING IT OUT.
04:15:43PM WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFF LINE, BUT OVERCOMMUNICATE SO PEOPLE
04:15:47PM KNOW -- AS SOON AS YOU START PUTTING IT UP, PEOPLE WILL
04:15:51PM START SENDING E-MAILS.
04:15:52PM IF YOU TELL THEM IN ADVANCE, DON'T WORE IN A FEW DAYS WE
04:15:55PM WILL BE PUTTING LANDSCAPING AROUND IT, THEN IT WILL HELP.
04:15:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I A HEAR A MOTION TO MOVE 89 AND 09.
04:16:04PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:16:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:16:06PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:16:07PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
04:16:09PM I HAVE A GOAL TO GET US OUT OF HERE BY 5:30 TODAY.
04:16:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MORNING OR PM.
04:16:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN THE PM.
04:16:18PM [LAUGHTER]
04:16:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CLARITY, WHICH 5:30.
04:16:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE JOKES ANYMORE.
04:16:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS NOT A JOKE.
04:16:26PM [LAUGHTER]
04:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE IS SERIOUS.
04:16:29PM VERY SERIOUS.
04:16:29PM 19, $6.5 MILLION.
04:16:32PM BRAD BAIRD AGAIN.
04:16:33PM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
04:16:38PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
04:16:38PM THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL ON THE
04:16:41PM AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 1 FOR $6.5 MILLION FOR CHANNELSIDE
04:16:46PM STREETSCAPE AND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
04:16:49PM AND OTHER UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
04:16:51PM IT ALSO INCLUDED $445,000 FOR TWO SIGNALS ON FRANKLIN STREET
04:17:00PM THOSE WERE REMOVED FROM CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
04:17:04PM THEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SCOPE.
04:17:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
04:17:08PM >>BRAD BAIRD: AND SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION TO $6.3 MILLION.
04:17:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE RECEIVED ENDLESS E-MAILS OF THOSE
04:17:22PM STREETLIGHTS.
04:17:22PM WE ALL GOT THE E-MAILS.
04:17:24PM ADDITIONAL STREETLIGHTS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
04:17:30PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THE SIGNALS ARE THAT'S CORRECT
04:17:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS ONLY FOR NOW.
04:17:34PM MR. BHIDE IS IN THE BACK.
04:17:38PM THEY STILL WANT TO PUT IT IN.
04:17:39PM HARBOUR ISLAND WILL BE OPPOSED TO IT.
04:17:42PM WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
04:17:51PM THERE ARE SOME MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD, BUT THIS IS A
04:17:56PM SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE A LOT OF
04:17:58PM ANGRY PEOPLE.
04:17:58PM I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO MR. BHIDE AND CONSTITUENTS
04:18:04PM AROUND DOWNTOWN OF THE OVERALL TRAFFIC CONGESTION DOWNTOWN
04:18:08PM AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO IT.
04:18:10PM WE BROUGHT IT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.
04:18:13PM THE TWO LIGHTS WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM AND THE PROBLEM
04:18:16PM DOWNTOWN IS TERRIBLE AND BACKS UP THE AWAY UP TO HOWARD
04:18:20PM AVENUE.
04:18:20PM AND WILL.
04:18:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
04:18:28PM POINT TAKEN, COUNCILMAN.
04:18:30PM WE WILL WORK TOGETHER AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING ON MARCH
04:18:34PM 26.
04:18:34PM I HAD SEVERAL ONE ON ONE MEETING WITH MANY HARBOUR ISLAND
04:18:38PM RESIDENTS AND WE HAD MEET WITH SOME KEY STAKEHOLDERS AS
04:18:44PM WELL.
04:18:44PM WE UNDERSTAND A LOT OF FEAR AND ANXIETY AROUND THESE SIGNALS
04:18:48PM WITH THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TRAFFIC RECENTLY.
04:18:50PM AND WE WILL PUT ALL THE FACTS OUT THERE.
04:18:53PM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD REQUESTED A
04:18:57PM RIGHT-TURN LANE OFF OF PLATT ON TO FRANKLIN OFF OF THE PLATT
04:19:05PM BRIDGE.
04:19:05PM WE WILL PUT THAT IN EVEN BEFORE WE DO SIGNALS AND ANY SUMP
04:19:10PM THING.
04:19:10PM AND WILL -- WILL SHARE ALL OF THAT ON THAT MARCH 26 MEETING.
04:19:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BHIDE AND I TALK ALL THE TIME BUT PLEASE
04:19:20PM LET'S CONTINUE IT.
04:19:21PM I DON'T THINK IT IS AN INFORMATION ISSUE BUT A TRUST ISSUE.
04:19:24PM NOT THAT THEY DON'T TRUST YOU PERSONALLY BUT A WHOLE BACKLOG
04:19:28PM OF ISSUE WHY IS THEY DON'T TRUST THE CITY.
04:19:30PM WE NEED TO GET PAST THAT TRUCK ISSUE IN ADDITION TO
04:19:35PM PROVIDING INFORMATION.
04:19:35PM I WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOU AND STAFF FOR TAKING
04:19:42PM THAT OUT.
04:19:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL ASK THAT IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION
04:19:47PM TO BE MOVED.
04:19:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
04:19:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
04:19:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. -- I GUESS MR. BAIRD -- ALL IN
04:19:58PM FAVOR?
04:19:58PM OPPOSED?
04:19:59PM MR. BAIRD, TAKING UP ITEM 92 AS WELL?
04:20:04PM BRADDED.
04:20:04PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, I AM.
04:20:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT A POWERPOINT.
04:20:09PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS SIX IN A ROW.
04:20:11PM I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
04:20:12PM I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR
04:20:16PM GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO PUT TOGETHER THE NUMBERS
04:20:21PM PRETTY TOUGH.
04:20:21PM THIS IS THE PIPES UPDATE.
04:20:23PM GIVE YOU A REAL SHORT BACKGROUND.
04:20:26PM WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROVED BY COUNCIL
04:20:30PM ON SEPTEMBER 5, 019 IN OUR FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM FOR
04:20:37PM $278 BILLION.
04:20:38PM 147 BILLION ROUGHLY FOR THE WASTEWATER SIGN AND $1.45
04:20:43PM BILLION FOR THE WATER SIDE.
04:20:44PM THANK YOU TO THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WERE
04:20:49PM THERE ARE.
04:20:49PM AND IT HELPS US APPROVE THE LARGEST INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM
04:20:53PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HISTORY.
04:20:55PM HOWEVER, THE WORLD CHANGED SINCE 2019 IN A VERY BIG WAY,
04:21:06PM ESPECIALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
04:21:08PM YOU HAVE SEEN PROJECT AFTER PROJECT COME ACROSS WITH HIGHER
04:21:11PM COST.
04:21:11PM SOME DOUBLE.
04:21:12PM SOME TRIPLE.
04:21:14PM SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, TRANS FORMER AND ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT
04:21:24PM WITH TWO YEARS' LEAD TIME LABOR SHORTAGE.
04:21:32PM AND WITH OTHER CONTRACTORS.
04:21:34PM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THE EXACT
04:21:37PM SAME THING.
04:21:37PM WHAT WE ASKED TO YOU DO IS TO SHOW WHAT IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN
04:21:43PM BASED ON FOUR 2018 MASTER PLANS.
04:21:49PM HOW MUCH WE ACCOMPLISHED AND HOW MUCH GOING FORWARD.
04:21:53PM THIS IS WHAT THE PRESENTATION IS ABOUT.
04:21:55PM WE WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH HOW THE PIPES PROGRAM WILL CHANGE
04:21:59PM AND ALSO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING OF A FEW OF THE KEY PROJECTS.
04:22:04PM FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE SECOND PART OF THE
04:22:07PM MOTION HAD IS A REQUEST FOR A BONDING DISCUSSION.
04:22:12PM SO WE DO HAVE MR. ROGERO AVAILABLE FOR THE END OF THIS
04:22:21PM PRESENTATION TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED
04:22:23PM WITH BONDING OF THE PROGRAM.
04:22:25PM I WILL REMIND YOU THAT BACK IN 2019, WE SET FORTH A -- IF I
04:22:33PM HAD HOPE -- I HOPE I CAN GET THIS RIGHT A 46% BONDING AND
04:22:41PM 54% PAY GO.
04:22:43PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED FOR THE -- AT THE END OF
04:22:46PM THE 20 YEARS, THAT WAS THE GOAL WE WERE GOING TO ACHIEVE
04:22:54PM MR. ROGERO DID SEND THAT PRESENTATION HE GAVE ON FEBRUARY 1.
04:22:58PM AND PROVIDE IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REFERENCE LIKE I SAID, IF
04:23:04PM YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
04:23:06PM WE WERE PLANNING ON GIVING THAT AGAIN BUT YOU HAVE IT IN
04:23:12PM HAND AND HE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
04:23:15PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO WASTEWATER AND TURN IT
04:23:18PM OVER TO ERIC.
04:23:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:23:20PM WELCOME BACK.
04:23:21PM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.
04:23:24PM IF WE CAN GET THE POWERPOINT GOING.
04:23:27PM THE BACKBONE WAS THE COMPLETION OF MASTER PLANS WE HAD THREE
04:23:35PM OF THEM.
04:23:35PM ONE, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
04:23:38PM HOW WARD F. CURREN PLANT AT FORT TAMPA BAY.
04:23:42PM A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN JUST TALKING OF THE MAJOR ITEMS.
04:23:47PM ONE IS CAPACITY?
04:23:49PM WHAT IS THE CAPACITY NOW?
04:23:50PM WHAT COULD IT BE IN 20 YEARS IF WATER QUALITY, WHERE CAN
04:23:56PM THEY BE IN 20 YEARS.
04:23:58PM FINALLY LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGY AND COMING UP WITH AT THAT
04:24:01PM TIME PROJECTS AND BUSINESS CASES, WHAT FIT BEST FOR US
04:24:11PM SECOND ONE IS PUMPING STATION.
04:24:12PM CITY HAS 229 PUMPING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:24:16PM INDUSTRY STANDARD SAYS IT TAKES EVERY 20 YEARS.
04:24:23PM THE LAST ITEM -- I WILL GET THAT UP.
04:24:25PM THE LAST ITEM IS THE ACTUAL PIPES IN THE GROUND.
04:24:28PM WASTEWATER HAVE 1500 MILES OF PIKE AND 30,000 MANHOLES.
04:24:34PM OVER 60% OF THAT WAS INSTALLED BEFORE 1970.
04:24:39PM THAT IS WHY IT IS THE BIGGER NUMBER WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS
04:24:43PM WERE FROM $650 MILLION.
04:24:45PM AS BRAD HAD SAID, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TODAY?
04:24:48PM WHEN THE FIVE YEARS IN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, TREATMENT
04:24:52PM PLANTS, PUMPING STATION AND PIPES, AWARDED 95 DIFFERENT
04:24:58PM CONTRACTS FOR $461 MILLION.
04:25:00PM AND MY LAST SLIDE ON THIS.
04:25:02PM WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM HERE?
04:25:08PM BELIEVE IT OR NOT ON THE PIPES SIDE, 16% INCREASE ABOVE
04:25:12PM INFLATION AND REALLY THAT IS BECAUSE YOU LAY PIPE, WITHIN
04:25:19PM THREE DAYS TO REHABILITATE 300 FEET OF PIPE WITHOUT
04:25:23PM INSERTING A FIBERGLASS LINER.
04:25:26PM NO MOVING PARTS, NO EQUIPMENT, THEY ARE IN AND OUT.
04:25:29PM HAVEN'T IMPACTED THAT AND GOOD NEWS WHICH IS OUR CENTER.
04:25:34PM WHAT HAS HIT US HARD IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
04:25:37PM ESTIMATE $181 MILLION MORE.
04:25:40PM AND KIND OF PUT THAT AS DEFERRED PROJECTS.
04:25:42PM I WOULD LIKE TOCK CALL IT POTENTIALLY DEFERRED PROJECTS.
04:25:45PM I HIGHLIGHTED THE ONES THEY WOULD BE.
04:25:50PM YEAR 2030 AND 2038 AND NEWER PROJECTS.
04:25:57PM PRIORITIZATION FIX THE BROKEN STUFF AND DOING IT FOR THE
04:26:02PM LAST TEN YEARS.
04:26:03PM GOOD BUSINESS CASES FOR ADDITIONAL TREATMENT THINGS SET
04:26:06PM THROUGHOUT THE TREATMENT PLANT TO SAVE MONEY, SAVE
04:26:09PM CHEMICALS.
04:26:10PM BUT THE FIRST ONES THAT WILL BE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.
04:26:13PM LIKE I SAID, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS.
04:26:15PM I WANT TO REPRIORITIZE THESE REMAINING PROJECTS.
04:26:19PM MAYBE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS.
04:26:21PM YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THINGS.
04:26:23PM P-3 OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE TO GET PRIVATE MONEY INVOLVED.
04:26:28PM THE THIRD THING TO LOOK AT, WELL, ON THE PUMPING STATION
04:26:31PM SIDE.
04:26:32PM WE SAY REHABILITATE STATIONS OVER 20, 30 YEARS.
04:26:42PM TAKE THAT MONEY AND IT MOVE TO THE --
04:26:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PAUSE FOR A MOMENT.
04:26:46PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OFF QUESTION?
04:26:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:26:49PM CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE?
04:26:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: OF COURSE.
04:26:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAVE GONE FAR.
04:26:56PM WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS ABOUT HOW FAR YOU ARE
04:27:00PM PERCENTAGE-WISE.
04:27:00PM >> THAT IS ABOUT 33% OF THE TOTAL 1.4 BILLION.
04:27:07PM FIVE YEARS INTO IT, IF I CAN DO THAT MAP 25% OF THE TIME.
04:27:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 33% OF THE MONEY, BUT I WAS TALKING OF THE
04:27:15PM PROJECTS.
04:27:15PM ARE YOU 3% IN FOR PROJECTS?
04:27:19PM >> NOT QUITE BECAUSE OF THAT 180 MILLION I THINK WE WILL BE
04:27:26PM GOOD AT THE END BY DOING THESE CHANGES THAT WE ARE TALKING
04:27:29PM ABOUT.
04:27:29PM WE SPENT 33% OF THE ORIGINAL MONEY.
04:27:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW FAR ARE YOU NOT MONEY-WISE BUT
04:27:39PM PROJECT-WISE.
04:27:39PM >> I WOULD SAY 25% BECAUSE KIND OF FRONT LOADED.
04:27:47PM ALL THESE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT INITIALLY AND
04:27:50PM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TACKLING.
04:27:51PM THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS, THE SPENDING WILL GO DOWN AT
04:27:55PM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE FIXED
04:27:57PM ALL THE BROKEN STUFF AND ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS THE GENERAL
04:28:00PM UPKEEP OF ANY OF THESE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED.
04:28:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW FAR ARE YOU ON THE CURE PIPES -- THE
04:28:10PM CURING-IN PIPES?
04:28:12PM >> GOOD QUESTION.
04:28:12PM WE AWARDED OVER 200 MILES OF PIPELINE REHABILITATION
04:28:16PM PROJECTS OUT THERE.
04:28:17PM AND IRONICALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR, FINALLY STARTING TO SEE
04:28:22PM THE TREND GOING DOWN.
04:28:23PM WE HAVE BEEN -- AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS,
04:28:27PM MORE AND MORE WASTEWATER GAVE-INS AND DEPRESSIONS IN THE
04:28:31PM ROAD AND THEY HAVE STAYED STEADY OR GONE UP EVERY YEAR.
04:28:34PM OVER THE LAST YEAR, THEY HAVE START TO SEE THEM COME DOWN.
04:28:36PM 200 MILES OF OUR WORST PIPE IN THE CITY.
04:28:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
04:28:48PM >> I WILL BE BRIEF ON THE PRESENTATION.
04:28:50PM >> DEFERRED PROJECTS.
04:28:51PM THREE OF THEM.
04:28:52PM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
04:28:53PM COMPLETED LAST MONTH OUR FIRST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AT THE
04:28:59PM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
04:29:01PM BYPRODUCT OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS SLUDGE.
04:29:05PM WE TREAT THE SLUDGE TO A DEGREE WHERE WE TRUCK IT TO RANCHES
04:29:09PM IN OSCEOLA AND POLK COUNTY.
04:29:12PM THIS SQUEEZES ALL THE WATER OUT.
04:29:13PM THE WATER IS HEAVY AND WE HAVE TO PAY PER TON TO TRUCK IT
04:29:17PM THAT FAR.
04:29:18PM A CASE OF 6% SOLIDS TO OVER 20% AND OPERATORS HAVE BEEN
04:29:26PM LOVING IT.
04:29:27PM THEY CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT IT.
04:29:28PM SECOND PROJECT AT THE TREATMENT PLANT.
04:29:34PM SECONDARY TREATMENT PROCESS WHERE YOU TAKE OUT THE ORGANICS.
04:29:39PM IN OUR BUSINESS, WE CALL IT THE CARBON.
04:29:41PM I SAID BEFORE SUSTAINABILITY PROJECT.
04:29:44PM THOSE ARE 50 MILLION GALLON AS DAY PUMPS, SEVEN OF THEM AND
04:29:48PM REPLACING THOSE AND PUTTING THEM ALL -- ALL THE ELECTRICAL
04:29:51PM EQUIPMENT ABOVE GROUND.
04:29:52PM I DIDN'T PUT IT HERE, A THREE-AND-A-HALF-YEAR PROJECT.
04:29:56PM THE CONTRACTOR IS REALLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE MAY FINISH A YEAR
04:30:02PM EARLY AND JUST TALKED WITH THEM THIS MORNING AND THE FIRST
04:30:04PM PUMP IS SCHEDULED TO BE ONLINE IN AUGUST RIGHT BEFORE THE
04:30:08PM WORST PART OF THE RAINY SEASON.
04:30:09PM EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND OUR LAST PROJECT, $38 MILLION FORCE
04:30:18PM IS MAIN.
04:30:18PM YOU HAVE BEEN ON SOUTH TAMPA IN FRONT OF OUR CONVENTION
04:30:21PM CENTER.
04:30:21PM TWO LAST MONTHS OF WORK TO TIE IN THE NEW FOREST, FORCE MAIN
04:30:27PM AT THE MIDWAY AND TAKE THE FOIL OFF THE ISLAND.
04:30:33PM >> THIS IS FASCINATING BECAUSE LIKE A SCIENCE FICTION.
04:30:37PM TUNNEL UNDERGROUND AND UNBELIEVABLE WHAT HAD YOU SEE HOW OUR
04:30:42PM CITY FUNCTIONS UNDER THE SUR SURFACE.
04:30:44PM >> THIS WAS A 80-FOOT DEEP TUNNEL GOING UNDERNEATH THE
04:30:50PM CHANNELS OF TAMPA BAY.
04:30:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
04:30:54PM A COMPLETION DATE OF NOW -- RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
04:30:57PM >> THIS PROJECT DOING THE FINAL TIE-IN.
04:31:00PM WE EXPECT TO DO THE FINAL TIE-IN BY THE END OF APRIL.
04:31:03PM BUT BY THE TIME OUR CONTRACTOR KIMMONS WILL BE DONE, ON THE
04:31:10PM ROAD WITH SIDEWALKS, MID-MAY.
04:31:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIRD LONGEST TUNNEL IN THE UNITED
04:31:18PM STATES.
04:31:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY INTERESTING.
04:31:22PM YES, MA'AM.
04:31:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I NOTICED IN THE WOMEN MONTH CELEBRATION,
04:31:28PM THAT THE PARK HAS BEEN PUT BACK.
04:31:30PM AND LOOKED LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED EVEN LOOKS BETTER, THE
04:31:40PM GRASS IS LOVELY.
04:31:41PM AND YOU CAN'T TELL ANYTHING HAPPENED AND I WANT TO COMMENT
04:31:45PM YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS A LARGE PROJECT AND THE
04:31:48PM COMMUNITY SUFFERED FROM A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
04:31:51PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THAT YOU ARE FOR
04:31:54PM SHOWING ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND THRILLED THAT THERE ARE
04:31:59PM SOME THAT ARE EVEN -- I CAN'T BELIEVE A YEAR AHEAD OF
04:32:06PM SCHEDULE.
04:32:07PM THAT IS WILD.
04:32:08PM I HEAR OF A FEW THINGS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE BUT TO KNOW THE
04:32:12PM PUMP STATIONS CAN BE DONE EVEN SOONER IS REALLY GOOD NEWS.
04:32:14PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
04:32:16PM AND IT SOUNDS LIKE STORMWATER -- OR WASTEWATER, RATHER, IS
04:32:21PM COMING ALONG OKAY.
04:32:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:32:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE QUICK THING BOUGHT NAMING NAMES.
04:32:28PM SOME CONTRACTORS ONE WE APPROVE THEM, WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT
04:32:32PM THEM AGAIN OR THEIR PROJECTS.
04:32:33PM WE DON'T GET ANY COMPLAINTS.
04:32:34PM WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
04:32:35PM THOSE NAMES TO EVER GET MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO
04:32:41PM CONGRATULATIONS LET AND THANK THEM.
04:32:43PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COUNT ON THAT OR THE SCORESHEET, BUT
04:32:47PM THERE ARE HUGE PROJECTS LIKE THIS GOING ON AND OTHER
04:32:51PM PROJECTS THAT ARE STOPPING A COUPLE OF STREETS AND WE GET
04:32:55PM FLOODED WITH COMPLAINTS.
04:32:56PM SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE REWARD CONTRACTOR --
04:33:04PM CONTRACTORS THAT DO A GOOD JOB.
04:33:06PM >> I WILL HAS IN ON.
04:33:07PM >> RORY JONES WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENTS.
04:33:09PM I AM GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME KIND OF PATH THAT WE ARE RICK
04:33:12PM DID.
04:33:12PM WE WILL START -- WHERE WE STARTED, WHAT WE REWARDED, WHAT WE
04:33:17PM ARE DEFERRING AND GIVE YOU INSIGHT WHAT WE ARE LOOK TO DO TO
04:33:21PM HELP SOME OF THOSE DELAYS AND GIVE YOU INSIGHT INTO SOME OF
04:33:28PM THE PROJECTS WE ARE WORKING ON AS WELL.
04:33:29PM ORIGINALLY WE WERE PROJECTED TO SPEND $1.5 BILLION OVER FOUR
04:33:33PM PROJECTS HERE.
04:33:34PM WITH THE LARGEST ONE BEING THAT DISTRIBUTION PIPELINE.
04:33:38PM AND TODAY, WE HAVE AWARDED $466 MILLION OF THAT $1.5
04:33:45PM BILLION.
04:33:47PM YOU KNOW LEAVING US WITH A LITTLE OVER $1 BILLION TO
04:33:52PM COMPLETE THE REMAINING PROJECTS, BUT AS BRAD SAID, OUR --
04:33:56PM OUR COSTS HAVE CHANGED REALLY GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.
04:33:59PM THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE UP AGAIN AT THIS MOMENT.
04:34:03PM IN THAT LEFT COLUMN, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE REMAINING.
04:34:07PM THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE WORK WE HAVE REMAINING IN THIS
04:34:10PM PROGRAM.
04:34:10PM AND THIS IS BASED ON TODAY'S CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES.
04:34:14PM I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO HOLD.
04:34:16PM I BELIEVE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RISE AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO
04:34:19PM LOOK AT WAYS TO KEEP COSTS DOWN.
04:34:21PM COULD YOU SEE WE WOULD END UP DEFERRING OR DELAYING UP TO
04:34:30PM $488 MILLION IN PROJECTS.
04:34:33PM THAT IS ROUGHLY WITH THE DISTRIBUTION PIPELINE, IT IS
04:34:40PM ROUGHLY 142 MILES OF PIPELINE IN TODAY'S COSTS.
04:34:44PM MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS OF WORK.
04:34:47PM AND THAT IS IN TODAY'S COSTS, THAT COULD CHANGE.
04:34:51PM YOU MAY ASK ME WHY -- WHY ARE WE DEFERRING PIPELINE AND NOT
04:34:56PM THE TREATMENT PLANT SIDE?
04:34:58PM REALLY ALL BASED ON CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE.
04:35:04PM WE HAVE GOT A HIGHER CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE AT ANYTHING AT
04:35:09PM OUR PLANT.
04:35:09PM TOUCHES THE WATER.
04:35:10PM THE PIPELINE DOESN'T TOUCH BUT A FRACTION OF THE WATER.
04:35:14PM THAT FAILURE IS HIGHER -- HIGHER CONSEQUENCES.
04:35:18PM AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO SAVE
04:35:28PM MONEY.
04:35:28PM YOU HAVE APPROVED AND WE HAVE BEEN RAMPING UP OUR
04:35:32PM CONSTRUCTION CREW.
04:35:33PM WE ARE WAITING ON EQUIPMENT THERE AND HOPING TO FURTHER RAMP
04:35:42PM THAT UP OVER THE NEXT FIVE, TEN YEARS AND WE ARE
04:35:45PM COORDINATING WITH MOBILITY AND WASTEWATER.
04:35:47PM EVERY TIME THEY ARE GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, AFFECTING
04:35:50PM THE STREETS, A SAVINGS FOR US.
04:35:51PM WE SHARE IN THAT RESTORATION.
04:35:53PM ANY TIME THERE IS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WE ARE JUMPING IN AND
04:36:00PM INFRASTRUCTURE EVERYWHERE.
04:36:02PM WE ARE HITTING THE STREETS.
04:36:03PM WE ARE TRYING TO GAIN COMPETITION AND GAIN ADDITIONAL BIDS
04:36:08PM TO IT THE TABLE.
04:36:09PM WE ARE PURSUING ALTERNATE METHODS OF INSTALLATION.
04:36:13PM YOU HAVE SEEN HORIZONTAL DIRECTIONAL DRILLING, PIPE
04:36:17PM BURSTING, SWAGE LINING.
04:36:19PM THESE ARE ALL METHODS THAT ARE A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE
04:36:22PM BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE STREETS A LITTLE LESS.
04:36:25PM LESS OVERLAY.
04:36:26PM RESULTS IN SOME SAVINGS.
04:36:28PM WE ARE COMPETITIVELY BIDDING.
04:36:33PM YOU MENTIONED, MR. CARLSON, THAT THE DESIGN BUILDS -- WE ARE
04:36:40PM COMPETITIVELY BIDDING OUT ALL THE PACKAGES TO TRY TO KEEP
04:36:43PM COSTS LOW.
04:36:44PM EVEN THE ONES THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE WANTING TO
04:36:50PM SELF-PERFORM, WE ARE REQUIRING THEM TO SELF -- TO BID THEM
04:36:55PM OUT AS WELL.
04:36:55PM WE HAVE ACTUALLY NOT SELECTED SOME OF THEM ON SOME OF THOSE
04:36:58PM AND GONE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
04:37:00PM LET'S SEE.
04:37:04PM ADDITIONAL THINGS WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING THROUGH A
04:37:06PM FACILITIES MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW.
04:37:10PM WE WENT THROUGH THE CCNA PROCESS AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR
04:37:14PM EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN.
04:37:15PM INCLUDING WE MAY HAVE SOME RESOURCES OUT THERE, PARCELS THAT
04:37:20PM COULD HELP US RATHER THROUGH THE SALE OR SOME CREATIVE USE
04:37:24PM OF THAT TO BE ABLE TO HELP US OFFSET SOME COSTS.
04:37:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
04:37:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:37:33PM ON THIS SLIDES REMAINING FUNDS AND SUSTAINABILITY.
04:37:36PM ON THE SLIDE BEFORE, $10 MILLION AND $6.5 MILLION LEFT.
04:37:45PM AND NO REMAINING WORK LEFT.
04:37:47PM SOUNDS LIKE EITHER A VERY GOOD SAVINGS OR CHOOSING NOT TO DO
04:37:51PM CERTAIN PROJECTS?
04:37:52PM >> LET ME TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THAT.
04:37:55PM WE HAVE CHOOSING NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE
04:37:59PM PROJECTS.
04:37:59PM THERE WAS -- THERE WAS AN AUTOMATIC METER READING THAT WE
04:38:05PM ARE LOOKING AT DELAY AS LITTLE BIT THERE.
04:38:08PM KNOW, THE COSTS WERE COMING IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND SORT
04:38:13PM OF A LUXURY ITEM.
04:38:16PM IT WAS A WANT AND WE HAVE SOME NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO
04:38:18PM ADDRESS.
04:38:20PM THERE WERE SOME REDUNDANCY STUFF IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA
04:38:24PM THAT WE CHOSE TO DO OURSELVES.
04:38:27PM SO WE DID SAVE SOME MONEY THERE AS WELL.
04:38:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
04:38:30PM SO WHERE -- WHERE WILL THAT MONEY BE BEST SPENT THEN
04:38:34PM SOMEBODY IN THE $6.5 MILLION WAS THEN REALLOCATED.
04:38:40PM WHERE DO WE HAVE THAT NEED THE MOST?
04:38:42PM >> WHERE IT WAS ALL REALLY APPLIED BACK TO THE NEEDS.
04:38:48PM THE NEEDS ARE IN THE TREATMENT PLAN SIDE.
04:38:51PM THE TREATMENT PLANT FIRST, THE BIGGEST OPERATIONAL SAVINGS
04:38:59PM CHEMICAL AND ELECTRICAL SAVINGS THAT PAID DIVIDENDS LONGER
04:39:03PM AND CONSEQUENCE OF THE FAILURE.
04:39:06PM THE SECOND PRIORITY WAS TO MOVE EVERYTHING TO PIPELINE.
04:39:10PM WE ARE LOOKING TO RAMP UP OUR CONSTRUCTION CREW.
04:39:13PM LOOKING AT DIFFERENT INSTALLATION METHODS AND ANOTHER
04:39:16PM POTABLE SYSTEM MASTER PLAN LOOKING TO REALLOCATE SOME OF
04:39:21PM THOSE PROJECTS AND WHAT THOSE NEEDS WERE BEFORE AND
04:39:28PM TRANSLATING TODAY.
04:39:28PM SOME OF THOSE PIPELINES WE THINK WE CAN TAKE AN ALTERNATE
04:39:35PM METHOD FOR -- MAYBE NOT THE LINING THAT WE ARE RICK HAS BUT
04:39:43PM SWAGE LINING, PUTTING ANOTHER PIPE INSIDE THAT.
04:39:47PM AND LOOK AT THE HYDRAULIC WITH THE MASTER PLAN TO SEE IF
04:39:54PM THAT REDUCED INTERDIAMETER AFFECTS US NEGATIVELY AND IF WE
04:39:59PM CAN GET AWAY WITH SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS.
04:40:01PM WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT FROM THE MASTER PLAN AS WELL.
04:40:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:40:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CARLSON.
04:40:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: OVERALL COMMENTS I WANT TO MAKE.
04:40:14PM FOR THAT LINING THING, REMEMBER WE SOLD THIS TO THE PUBLIC.
04:40:17PM WE SAID THIS WAS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, A ONCE IN A -- PLEASE
04:40:26PM PUSH BACK ON US.
04:40:27PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST HAVE GONE UP AND PRESENTATIONS
04:40:30PM LIKE HELP US TO BE TRANSPORTATION.
04:40:40PM IF IT EXPENDS THE PIPE BY TEN YEARS KIND HAVE WAITED YET
04:40:43PM ANOTHER YEAR AND REPLACE IT FOR 100 YEARS, THEN THE PUBLIC
04:40:47PM PROBABLY WOULD WANT US TO REPLACE IF FOR A LONGER TERM.
04:40:54PM >> I HEAR YOU.
04:40:54PM WHEN I SAY "LINING" SAME STRUCTURAL STRENGTH PIPE, JUST A
04:40:58PM LITTLE SMALLER DIAMETER.
04:41:00PM YOU ARE GET THE SAME LIFE 88 YEARS, 90 YEARS OUT OF IT WITH
04:41:06PM THE SWAGE LINING AND A SMALLER CAPACITY.
04:41:09PM THIS MASTER PLAN OVERALL GRID TRANSMISSION SYSTEM AND
04:41:15PM LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE IF IT
04:41:18PM HAS A NEGATIVE EFFECT.
04:41:29PM >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO COME BACK EVERY SIX MONTHS IF MY
04:41:33PM COLLEAGUES WILL ALLOW IT.
04:41:34PM BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GOOD TO PRESENT MAPS BECAUSE I AM A
04:41:37PM VISUAL PERSON AND GOOD TO SEE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND
04:41:43PM HAVEN'T.
04:41:48PM PEOPLE WON'T KNOW HOW THE ROADS ARE PULLED UP.
04:41:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
04:41:53PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:41:54PM >> A COUPLE OF PROJECTS I WILL BREEZE THROUGH THEM.
04:41:56PM I KNOW YOU HAVE THE 5:30 DEADLINE HERE.
04:41:59PM THIS IS HUE HIGH SERVICE CONVERSATION.
04:42:03PM WE ARE GETTING READY TO PUT TWO OF THE PUMPS ONLINE IN APRIL
04:42:13PM PROJECT ADDING REDUNDANCY AND 1920s PUMPING WE KEEP
04:42:18PM REBUILDING IN A MODERN EFFICIENT BUILDING THAT HAS BUILT-IN
04:42:21PM REDUNDANCY AND THE ABILITY TO TAKE COMPONENTS OUT OF SERVICE
04:42:25PM AND PROPERLY MAINTAIN.
04:42:27PM EXCITE TODAY ARE THAT TAMPA THAT WILL BE FINISHING TOWARD
04:42:31PM THE END OF THIS YEAR.
04:42:34PM THE CHEMICAL SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT.
04:42:37PM TESTING BLEACH OR HYPERCHLORIDE.
04:42:40PM THIS RIGHT NOW.
04:42:41PM WHEN WE GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE TREATMENT, WE ARE GOING TO
04:42:44PM PULL THE PLUG ON OUR GASEOUS, DECISION SOME RAILS AND PULL
04:42:55PM IN THE HYPOCHLORITE GENERATORS.
04:43:01PM THAT WILL BE AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
04:43:03PM IT WILL BE SAFER, THE HYPO CHLORITE IS SAFER THAN THE
04:43:12PM GASEOUS CHLORINE AND AQUEOUS AMMONIA WHICH IS BETTER WITHIN
04:43:22PM THAT WE ARE REPLACING.
04:43:23PM PIPELINE IMPROVEMENT.
04:43:25PM 100% DONE WITH FOREST HILLS.
04:43:27PM 95% DO WITH VIRGINIA PARK.
04:43:30PM WE STARTED MacFARLANE PARK WITH HORIZONTAL DIRECTIONAL
04:43:35PM DRILLING.
04:43:35PM AND A PIVOT IN COURSE CHANGE TO SAVE SOME MONEY APPEAR, AND
04:43:41PM YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN THE PICTURE.
04:43:43PM THIS MORNING DRILLING THE 600 LINEAR FOOT AT MacFARLANE
04:43:49PM PARK.
04:43:49PM AND EAST COMPANY -- VARIOUS COMMUNITIES IN EAVES TAMPA
04:43:53PM BEGINNING IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR AND MORE RECENTLY, TO PLANT
04:44:02PM 2,000 TREES HOPE TO DO THAT EVEN MORE WITH THE EAST TAMPA
04:44:11PM AREA.
04:44:12PM WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
04:44:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:44:16PM I LOVE THE HOUSE YOU ARE SHOWING.
04:44:18PM THAT IS RIGHT THERE ON CENTRAL.
04:44:19PM A FRIEND OF MY SISTER'S.
04:44:21PM BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW AND THIS STYLE ARCHITECTURE
04:44:27PM IS A BUNGALOW THAT HAS JAPANESE INFLUENCE IN THE ACTION
04:44:34PM ACCENT THERE IS.
04:44:35PM THEY ARE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
04:44:36PM AND IT IS VERY SCHOOL.
04:44:38PM I WAS AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE FOR THE MAYOR FOR MacFARLANE
04:44:45PM PARK.
04:44:46PM IT IS GREAT.
04:44:49PM PEOPLE COMPLAIN ALL THE TIME ROAD CLOSURE BECAUSE THIS AND
04:44:52PM THAT.
04:44:53PM THEY ARE HAPPY TO SEE UPGRADED PIPES.
04:45:01PM IN HYDE PARK.
04:45:06PM PIPES GOING TO THE 20.
04:45:09PM A 5:30 DEADLINE.
04:45:11PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
04:45:11PM THAT THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION?
04:45:13PM >> THAT'S IT.
04:45:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP A GOOD
04:45:16PM POINT.
04:45:16PM IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE.
04:45:17PM >> WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
04:45:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TODAY DO THAT MORE OFTEN.
04:45:22PM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:45:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: SUELING, CAN WE BOOK SOMETHING IN SEPTEMBER?
04:45:34PM >>CLERK: RIGHT NOW IT ONLY GOES JULY.
04:45:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I -- CAN I PUT SOMETHING ON SEPTEMBER?
04:45:40PM >> WELL, YOU CAN.
04:45:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
04:45:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE PUBLIC
04:45:48PM WORKS -- HOW DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT -- AN UPDATE ON PIPES.
04:45:52PM A STAFF UPDATE ON PIPES.
04:45:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:45:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERY SIX MONTHS STARTING SEPTEMBER 2024.
04:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:46:01PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:46:03PM DISCUSSION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
04:46:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY CONCERN OF SIX MONTHS IS JUST NOT A
04:46:09PM LOT HAPPENS IN SIX MONTHS WITH SOME OF THESE LARGER
04:46:12PM PROJECTS.
04:46:12PM WE MIGHT SEE THE SAME PROJECT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
04:46:14PM I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE A YEAR MIGHT BE BETTER OR NINE MONTHS.
04:46:19PM I AM HAPPY TO DO SIX MONTHS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
04:46:23PM SEEING SOME CHANGE.
04:46:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIX MONTHS AND IF NOT MUCH ACTION.
04:46:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T PUT A DATE.
04:46:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
04:46:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY LOVE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL.
04:46:36PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE LOVE TALKING ABOUT PIPES.
04:46:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: WAS THERE A SECOND?
04:46:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I CAN ADD AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE I LOVED HIS
04:46:44PM IDEA OF THE VISUALS.
04:46:45PM YOU COULD COME WITH THE VISUALS WHERE YOU HAVE DONE MAYBE
04:46:52PM THE WASTEWATER GETS ONE COLOR AND I WOULD EVEN.
04:46:59PM >> WE CAN DO THAT.
04:47:02PM >> I TONIGHT WANT TO CONFLATE THINGS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW,
04:47:06PM WHERE STORMWATER -- MAYBE NOT.
04:47:09PM SORRY.
04:47:10PM RICHARD IS SAYING NO, DON'T DO THAT.
04:47:12PM BUT THAT WAY WE CAN SEE -- WILL YOU ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT?
04:47:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU OFF LINE OF POSSIBLE
04:47:23PM SLIDES.
04:47:23PM I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE IN THE AMENDMENT.
04:47:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:47:28PM OPPOSED?
04:47:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS
04:47:32PM REAL QUICK.
04:47:32PM I WILL TRY GO FAST.
04:47:34PM DON'T FORGET -- I SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT THE PREVIOUS
04:47:37PM MARKETING DEPARTMENT PICKED THE NAME "PIPES."
04:47:40PM PERCEPTION FROM THE PUBLIC IT WAS PAYING FOR PIPES.
04:47:42PM I THINK YOU MADE A GREAT ARGUMENT OF THE WAY YOU LOAD IT,
04:47:46PM BUT AS YOU -- WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT -- I REALLY
04:47:50PM APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL ARE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT, BUT WE
04:47:52PM NEED TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THAT IT IS PAYING FOR PIPES AND
04:47:55PM WHAT WE ARE DOING.
04:47:55PM YOU SHOWED IT -- IN THE CONSUMER COMMUNICATION WE NEED TO
04:48:01PM TALK ABOUT THAT AND EXPLAIN WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO WORK AT
04:48:04PM THE SOURCE AND MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE KNEW MAY OR MAY NOT
04:48:09PM REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED THIS IN 2019, WE TOOK OUT A THING
04:48:14PM CALLED TAP AND THEN A THING CALLED PURE $300 MILLION.
04:48:17PM AND WE TOOK IT OUT.
04:48:19PM NONE OF THIS MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON ANY PART OF THOSE
04:48:22PM PROJECTS, CORRECT?
04:48:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
04:48:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO PLANS TO DO THAT?
04:48:28PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
04:48:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT SOME THINGS -- WHEN YOU START TALKING OF
04:48:34PM THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THE PERCEPTION OF IT.
04:48:38PM IT IS BEING SET UP AND PAID BY PIPES TO REDUCE THE COST TO
04:48:42PM TOILET TO TAP.
04:48:44PM AND IT HELPS WITH THAT.
04:48:46PM AND THE A NUMBER -- AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM, AGAIN
04:48:50PM WITH TRANSPARENCY.
04:48:53PM THE INCREASE $488 MILLION FOR POTABLE WATER.
04:48:59PM >>BRAD BAIRD: FOR WATER.
04:49:00PM AND 180 SOMETHING FOR WASTEWATER.
04:49:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: 500 OR SOMETHING MILLION OVER BUDGET.
04:49:05PM >>BRAD BAIRD: 600, YES.
04:49:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: 600 MILLION OVER BUDGET.
04:49:09PM AND WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT BASED ON --
04:49:12PM >> WELL THAT WILL BE -- YEAH, 20%.
04:49:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: CFO SAID 20%.
04:49:18PM I THINK AS YOU ALL ARE PRESENTING, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA
04:49:21PM TO SHOW WHERE WE STARTED AND MAYBE THEIR WAY POINTS ALONG
04:49:24PM THE WAY AND IT IS OKAY TO TELL PEOPLE THAT COST WENT UP.
04:49:27PM PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT INFLATION.
04:49:29PM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ASKING THE QUESTION AND
04:49:32PM BEING GOOD CUSTODIANS OF THE MONEY AND REMIND THEM OF WHAT
04:49:37PM THEY ALL AGREED TO PAY.
04:49:38PM THEN -- IS THIS IS $600 MILLION OVER BUDGET.
04:49:41PM HOW FAR BEHIND WE ON THE SCHEDULE?
04:49:45PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE ARE ON SCHEDULED OR A LITTLE AHEAD OF
04:49:49PM SCHEDULE.
04:49:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNT THE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE BEEN DONE.
04:49:52PM >> PROJECTED IN THE FUTURE.
04:49:54PM OUR DEFERRALS IS LOOKING OUT IN THE FUTURE.
04:49:57PM WE ARE ON SCHEDULE AND WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY.
04:50:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: RIGHT NOW ON TIME.
04:50:04PM >> YOU RECOGNIZE IT HERE AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
04:50:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF COULD YOU UPDATE US ON THAT TOO AND YOU
04:50:11PM WENT INTO DETAIL OF SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS.
04:50:13PM AND SOMETIMES I CRITICIZED THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT THIS WAS
04:50:17PM NOT AN IDEA OF CITY COUNCIL.
04:50:18PM THIS WAS AN IDEA OF STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:50:21PM AND I THOUGHT IT WORK REAL GUTS THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THIS
04:50:25PM ADMINISTRATION THE LAST TERM TO PROPOSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
04:50:28PM BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR SAID, NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SEE.
04:50:32PM IT IS IN THE GROUND.
04:50:32PM THEY SEE THEIR STREETS TORN UP.
04:50:35PM AND ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, THEY WILL HAVE MORE RELIABLE
04:50:38PM SERVICE.
04:50:38PM BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY EXPERIENCE.
04:50:41PM SO I APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
04:50:44PM AND I THINK THE PUBLIC FOR THE MOST PART IS HAPPY OF THAT.
04:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE ALL OF YOU.
04:50:54PM I RESPECT YOU A LOT.
04:50:55PM DO YOU GREAT WORK.
04:50:56PM ALL THE FOLKS THAT PRESENTED AND THE FOLKS BEHIND YOU.
04:50:59PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
04:51:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, STAFF TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE IF
04:51:03PM IT IS STILL NECESSARY TO SHUT DOWN DOWNTOWN ROADS.
04:51:05PM A GENTLEMAN FROM TPD.
04:51:08PM NO?
04:51:08PM MR. BHIDE?
04:51:11PM >>VIK BHIDE: AFTERNOON, CHAIR, VIK BHIDE.
04:51:13PM I AM JOINED BY MAJOR MILLS WITH TPD AS WELL.
04:51:17PM I WILL START US OFF AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL
04:51:20PM ADDRESS IT.
04:51:21PM THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION REGARDING TRAFFIC
04:51:24PM IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY AS
04:51:30PM WATER STREET PHASE ONE HAS COME ONLINE AND OUR CITY
04:51:34PM CONTINUES TO BE MORE SUCCESSFUL WITH MORE SPECIAL EVENTS.
04:51:37PM I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT SOME OF THIS TRAFFIC IS
04:51:41PM TO BE EXPECTED.
04:51:42PM WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF INTENSITY IN DEVELOPMENT IN
04:51:49PM DOWNTOWN, WHERE NONE EXISTED BEFORE.
04:51:51PM A LOT OF THESE WERE JUST EMPTY LOTS.
04:51:53PM THERE IS COMPETITION.
04:51:54PM AND MOST OF THE TRAFFIC, TYPICALLY HAPPENS WITH PEOPLE
04:51:59PM LOOKING FOR PARKING IN THE PROXIMITY OF THE DESTINATION THEY
04:52:05PM ARE TRYING TO GO TO.
04:52:06PM THAT IS ONE PART OF THE CHALLENGE.
04:52:07PM THE IDEA OVERALL FROM EARLY PLANNING STAGES FOR WATER
04:52:14PM STREETS PHASES ONE, TWO, THREE, EVEN GASWORX AND OTHER PARTS
04:52:19PM OF DOWNTOWN IS TO DISPERSE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE GRID AND FOR
04:52:25PM THAT, THREE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
04:52:28PM THESE ARE ONGOING.
04:52:29PM I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT ONE-THIRD OF THE NETWORK
04:52:33PM THROUGH.
04:52:33PM ONE IS TO COMPLETE THE GRID BETWEEN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND
04:52:38PM THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
04:52:38PM AND TO THAT END, WE HAVE GOT THEA WORKING ON WHITING STREET
04:52:44PM AND RELOCATING A RAMP THAT WILL TAKE TRAFFIC OFF OF
04:52:48PM CHANNELSIDE ON TO MERIDIAN WHERE THERE IS MORE CAPACITY.
04:52:52PM THAT IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE.
04:52:54PM UNDER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEA, THE NEXT
04:52:58PM STEP WILL BE WASHINGTON STREET WHICH WILL ALSO CONNECT ALL
04:53:01PM THE WAY THROUGH.
04:53:02PM THE CITY HAS A PROJECT ON TWIGGS STREET THAT IS CURRENTLY IN
04:53:06PM DESIGN.
04:53:06PM WE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW
04:53:09PM BECAUSE IT CONNECTS THE RIVER WITH THE CHANNEL.
04:53:11PM THIS WILL ESTABLISH A MUCH MORE ROBUST GRID SYSTEM WHERE
04:53:15PM TODAY REALLY YOU HAVE CHANNELSIDE TO THE NORTH IS TWIGGS.
04:53:22PM TWIGGS IS NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL IN TERMS OF CONNECTING FROM
04:53:28PM DIFFERENT PLACES.
04:53:28PM THAT IS THE FIRST PART, IS THE FUTURE GRID, THE FUTURE
04:53:32PM NETWORK, IF YOU WILL NOW WITH TEN COMES TO PARKING, AS PART
04:53:37PM OF WATER STREET PHASE ONE, THERE WAS A PARKING GARAGE PLAN.
04:53:44PM THE WHOLE IDEA TO MOVE TRAFFIC FROM CHANNELSIDE THROUGH THE
04:53:49PM SYSTEM TO CUMBERLAND.
04:53:51PM A LOT MORE TO CUMBERLAND.
04:53:54PM THAT GARAGE DIDN'T HAPPEN AS PART OF PHASE ONE.
04:53:56PM IT IS HAPPENING AS PART OF PHASE TWO.
04:53:59PM IN THE SOUTH EAST CORN CURVE CUMBERLAND.
04:54:09PM 12 TO 1500 SPACES.
04:54:12PM WHAT THIS WILL DO NATURALLY MOVE PEOPLE TO WHERE PARKING IS
04:54:15PM ALREADY AVAILABLE RATHER THAN BEING IN THE AREA.
04:54:18PM THAT IS ALSO A LEARNING CURVE.
04:54:19PM IT IS NOT -- WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS NOT SURPRISING, ALTHOUGH
04:54:24PM IT IS VERY IMPACTFUL
04:54:25PM IT DOES CREATE ADDITIONAL DELAYS ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE
04:54:29PM THESE SPECIAL EVENTS.
04:54:32PM NETWORK CHANGES.
04:54:34PM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
04:54:37PM A LOT OF THESE THINGS WILL TAKE FIVE YEARS TO HAPPEN.
04:54:42PM WE HAD A MOD PLAN WHICH WAS MORE OR LESS OUTDATED BECAUSE IT
04:54:48PM WAS MEANT FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DOWNTOWN, A DIFFERENT TYPE
04:54:52PM OF NETWORK THAT HAS BEEN EVOLVING AND WORKING A~ CROSS ALL
04:54:56PM PARTNERS.
04:54:56PM TPD TAKING THE LEAD BUT WE WORK WITH SPP, THE ARENA
04:55:03PM THROUGH VSG, THEA, FDOT, MOBILITY, CONVENTION CENTER AND ALL
04:55:11PM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
04:55:13PM WE MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS TO LOOK WHAT WE CAN DO.
04:55:15PM ON THAT ABP HAVE RECENTLY DEVELOPED A NEW M.O.P. PLAN THAT
04:55:24PM WE BELIEVE WILL WORK VERY WELL AND WILL DO -- OR MIMIC
04:55:30PM THROUGH THESE EVENTS WHAT WE WANT THE NATIONAL STREET SYSTEM
04:55:34PM OR GRID TO DO.
04:55:35PM THIS PLAN INVOLVES SHUTTING DOWN CHANNELSIDE DRIVE DURING
04:55:40PM MAJOR ARENA EVENTS THREE BLOCKS IN FRONT OF THE MARINA.
04:55:44PM SOUNDS DRASTIC, BUT IN REALITY AND ACTION, WHAT IT WILL DO
04:55:50PM -- THE TRAFFIC COMING UP EAST ON PLATT AND NORTH ON BAYSHORE
04:55:57PM WILL BE FORCED UP FLORIDA.
04:55:58PM IF YOU GO TO HARBOUR ISLAND ON FRANKLIN, CHANNELSIDE AND
04:56:05PM PLATT, EXCLUSIVE RIGHT-TURN LANE.
04:56:09PM EASIER TO GET ON TO HARBOUR ISLAND WHERE THE REST OF THE
04:56:15PM TRAFFIC PAST FLORIDA AVENUE.
04:56:17PM THE REASON THIS DOESN'T WORK WELL, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER.
04:56:23PM SHEER VOLUMES.
04:56:26PM THIS ANY GIVEN RUSH HOUR, MORNINGS OR EVENINGS.
04:56:29PM WE HAVE A LOT MORE VEHICLES THAT GO THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN
04:56:31PM SYSTEM THAT GO ONLY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
04:56:33PM AND THEY ALL USE FLORIDA.
04:56:37PM 33% OF FLORIDA AVENUE'S TRAFFIC IS CUT-THRU OR PASS-THROUGH
04:56:45PM AND DESTINATION IS DOWNTOWN.
04:56:46PM PUSHING FOLKS UP ON THE GRID THROUGH FLORIDA.
04:56:51PM ONE, EXPOSES TRAFFIC TO MORE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES.
04:56:55PM WHERE TODAY THE IMPLICATION GOING EAST ON CHANNELSIDE AND
04:57:04PM LOOK TO WHERE THEY WANT TO PARK.
04:57:05PM MOVES PEOPLE -- THE STRUCTURED PARKING WHERE YOU WHICH IS
04:57:09PM HIGHER CAPACITY THAN SURFACE LOTS WHICH IS WHERE A LOT OF
04:57:12PM DELAYS HAPPENING, CUEING PARTLY BECAUSE OF LIMITED ACCESS
04:57:17PM POINTS AND STUFF.
04:57:19PM I FEEL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THAT PLAN.
04:57:22PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTING IT AROUND SPECIAL EVENT
04:57:25PM SEASON.
04:57:25PM THIS YEAR ITSELF, DRY RUNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
04:57:32PM AS PART OF THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE CONSTRUCTION AT MORGAN, WE
04:57:38PM WILL WORK WITH THEA.
04:57:40PM IN FACT, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP WITH THEA AND APP.
04:57:47PM TWO-WAY BORAIN STREET.
04:57:51PM WE LOOK TO TWO-LANING IT ALL THE WAY TO ASHLEY.
04:57:54PM THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY OF THE TWO-WAITING IS GOING TO BE,
04:57:59PM AGAIN, ACTIVATION OF THE GRID.
04:58:01PM OFF OF TAMPA STREET OFF OF 275, YOU GET -- THE S CURVE TO
04:58:10PM FRANKLIN A MAJOR PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR OR TPD SOMETIMES WHEN
04:58:15PM THE TRAFFIC GETS TOO MUCH HAVE TO FORCE PEOPLE ACROSS THE
04:58:19PM RIVER AND COME DOWN LITTLE BAYSHORE.
04:58:22PM TWO-LANE GIVES MORE CONNECTIVITY.
04:58:31PM IT CALMS TRAFFIC.
04:58:32PM SOME OF THAT CAPACITY IS NOT NEEDED ESPECIALLY WEST OF
04:58:35PM MORGAN.
04:58:36PM SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS AND SELF IN
04:58:43PM DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES.
04:58:44PM THE FIRST AND THE MOST IMMEDIATE IS GOING TO BE BETTER AND
04:58:47PM MORE IMPACTFUL AND MULTIPLANNED AS FAR AS CLOSURE OF ROADS,
04:58:53PM IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE ARENA OURSELF.
04:59:00PM OUR CONCERN.
04:59:01PM NATIONAL PRACTICE AROUND EVERY ARENA IN THE NATION.
04:59:04PM IT IS DONE FOR SECURITY REASONS.
04:59:05PM IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THAT AREA AROUND THE
04:59:08PM ARENA, OF COURSE, MAJOR MILLS IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THOSE.
04:59:16PM AT THIS POINT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
04:59:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:59:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE OF THE BOTTLENECKS THAT I OBSERVE,
04:59:23PM PEDESTRIAN-RELATED SOUTH OF TRAFFIC, REFERENCE BACKING UP TO
04:59:27PM BAYSHORE, ALL THE WAY BACK TO HOWARD.
04:59:29PM COMING OFF INTO PLATT.
04:59:31PM TRANSITIONING TO CHANNELSIDE.
04:59:33PM A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH TO GO TO THE
04:59:36PM CONVENTION CENTER OR TO THE ARENA AND WE STOP TRAFFIC AND
04:59:41PM PLENTY OF CAPACITY ROAD-WISE IN FRONT BUT TRAFFIC IS STOPPED
04:59:45PM FOR AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
04:59:49PM FRANKLIN -- I GUESS IT IS STILL PLAT.
04:59:52PM CHANNELSIDE.
04:59:53PM AT THAT INTERSECTION.
04:59:54PM IS THERE ANY PLANS TO DO PEDESTRIAN CROSS -- OVERHEAD
04:59:59PM PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY OR TO KEEP THAT TRAFFIC FLOWING OR OTHER
05:00:02PM WAYS THAT WE CAN -- WE CAN FUNNEL PEDESTRIANS TO BE ABLE TO
05:00:05PM KEEP THAT TRAFFIC MOVING COMING NORTH OFF OF BAYSHORE UNDER
05:00:09PM THE CONVENTION CENTER?
05:00:12PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO, OVERHEAD PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES REALLY DON'T
05:00:15PM WORK.
05:00:16PM WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF THEM, BUT NATIONAL DATA IS REALLY CLEAR
05:00:20PM ON THAT.
05:00:20PM THAT PEOPLE DON'T USE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES.
05:00:22PM THEY WILL JUST FIND THE EASIEST WAY TO WALK.
05:00:26PM HANDS IT EASIEST WAY TO WALK IS -- THE TERM IS "DESIRE
05:00:35PM LINES."
05:00:35PM YOU FOLLOW THE DESIRE LINES AND YOU DESIGN BETTER FOR A
05:00:39PM THEM.
05:00:39PM RIGHT NOW A LOT OF THIS ACTIVITY AND THIS TYPE OF BLOCKAGE
05:00:43PM IS BECAUSE VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS MOST OF WHICH DROVE INTO
05:00:47PM DOWNTOWN.
05:00:47PM THEY ARE ALL DRIVERS AS WELL KIND OF EXPERIENCING
05:00:52PM DIFFERENTLY ON THEIR WAY TO THE ARENA ARE ALL CONCENTRATED
05:00:58PM IN A SMALL AREA.
05:00:59PM MOVING TRAFFIC AND CREATING BETTER GRID SYSTEMS FOR
05:01:03PM ALTERNATIVE MEANS TO PARK, AS WELL AS GET -- TO GET TO WILL
05:01:08PM KEEP THINGS MOVING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
05:01:10PM ACTUALLY A LOT BETTER THAN THEY DO RIGHT NOW.
05:01:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLEARLY THAT BACK UP -- WE START THINKING
05:01:19PM OF ISSUE OF AMBULANCES GOING TO THE HOSPITAL AND TRAFFIC
05:01:23PM BACKS UP FURTHER DOWN ON BAYSHORE.
05:01:24PM I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE ARE GIVING THE PEDESTRIANS THE
05:01:27PM ADVANTAGE OF PREFERRING THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS OVER THE
05:01:31PM CARS.
05:01:31PM IS THERE A WAY OF FUNNELING THE PEDESTRIANS TO MOVE THEM
05:01:35PM EN MASSE ACROSS THESE ROADS SO WE CAN KEEP THE ROADS OPEN
05:01:39PM FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING?
05:01:45PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS A REALLY GOOD POINT AND THERE ARE.
05:01:48PM THEY ARE VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CAPACITY.
05:01:51PM WIDER SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS AT INTERSECTION ALSO MOVE
05:01:55PM MORE PEDESTRIANS THAN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
05:01:58PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE PITTMAN AND I
05:02:01PM BELIEVE IT IS IN THE BUDGET THAT IS -- HOPEFULLY BEING
05:02:04PM APPROVED IN TALLAHASSEE.
05:02:06PM SOME MONIES TO STUDY HOW WE CAN IMPROVE SOME OF THESE
05:02:10PM INTERSECTIONS AND FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO STUDY INITIALLY TO
05:02:14PM FIND OUT WHERE TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
05:02:17PM GENERALLY WE KNOW WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE.
05:02:19PM AND TO SCOPE OUT WHAT THESE LOCATIONS WILL BE.
05:02:22PM BUT FRANKLIN AND CHANNELSIDE, BY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS OF
05:02:35PM CROSSWALKS BY GARRISON LOCKS.
05:02:37PM THAT CREATES TRAFFIC AND BACKS UP INTO THE INTERSECTION.
05:02:40PM A LOT OF FRICTION POINTS.
05:02:45PM ANYTHING THAT IS PRACTICALLY REBUILDING PART OF DOWNTOWN.
05:02:48PM PHASE ONE DID NOT GO EXACTLY PER PHASE ONE'S PLAN BECAUSE
05:02:52PM BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC CONSIDERATIONS, BUT WE ARE ADOPTING
05:02:58PM AND MOVING THE ENTIRE VISION FORWARD.
05:02:59PM >> MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT STREETCAR EXTENDED MORE PEOPLE USE
05:03:03PM THE STREETCAR AND NOT WALKING.
05:03:04PM >> YES.
05:03:05PM ON THAT NOTE -- AND THAT IS A VERY REAL THING.
05:03:08PM EXTENDING THE STREET CAR CREATES A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
05:03:14PM PARKING FACILITIES AND DESTINATIONS DOWNTOWN.
05:03:16PM SO AS WE ACTIVATE MOST DESTINATIONS AND WE HAVE NATURAL
05:03:25PM ACTIVATION OF ADDITIONAL PARKING FACILITIES, IT DOESN'T JUST
05:03:29PM SERVE AS, YOU KNOW, AN URBAN CIRCULATOR.
05:03:32PM A VERY STRONG CASE TO BE MADE THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY HELP
05:03:35PM EXACTLY.
05:03:35PM AND THEN IT BECOMES A SIGNIFICANT TRANSIT FEEDER AS WELL SO
05:03:43PM THE MORE LIVE, WORK, PLAY HAPPENS DOWNTOWN WHICH IS
05:03:45PM HAPPENING AND-HAPPEN, WE ARE FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD, THE
05:03:49PM STRONGER THE CASE FOR THE STREETCAR EXTENSION.
05:03:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
05:03:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:03:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:03:55PM WHEN I HEAR OF A NEW PARKING GARAGE, I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT,
05:03:59PM BECAUSE I HAVE TO HAVE THE MOMENT, THAT WILL BE A GREAT
05:04:03PM PLACE TO PUT A FIRE STATION.
05:04:04PM SO I HOPE -- I KNOW, BUT I HOPE THAT SOME CONVERSATIONS CAN
05:04:12PM BE HAVE ABOUT THAT SORT OF LOCATION.
05:04:15PM THAT IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO PUT A FIRE STATION.
05:04:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:04:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN PUT THE FIRE STATION UNDERNEATH THE
05:04:23PM GARAGE THAT -- THE CHANNEL DISTRICT GARAGE.
05:04:28PM I HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH THE PORT, BUT THAT
05:04:30PM ARGUMENT WAS SHUT DOWN BY ONE PHONE CALL.
05:04:33PM NOT BY A REAL INQUIRY.
05:04:35PM BUT A -- LET'S KEEP THAT BACK ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THE STUDY
05:04:41PM SAYS IT SHOULD BE IN SPARKING LOT OF SPARKMAN WHARF.
05:04:46PM THEY DON'T WANT TO TUT IT THERE, BUT THEY CAN EASILY DO THAT
05:04:51PM THE BOTTOM OF THE PLACE WAS BUILT FOR IT.
05:04:52PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
05:04:54PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ONGOING ISSUE AND VIK AND I TALK
05:04:59PM ALL THE TIME AND I WON'T WASTE ANY TIME ON THIS.
05:05:02PM AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:05:04PM WE -- AND VIK AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
05:05:08PM I ASPIRE TO THE SAME THINGS THAT VIK AND THE MAYOR AND OTHER
05:05:14PM ASPIRE TO, THAT WE WILL HAVE A CITY WHERE IT IS WALKABLE AND
05:05:18PM PEOPLE RIDE BICYCLES AND EVERYTHING.
05:05:22PM WE CAN'T JUST FLIP TO THAT OVERNIGHT.
05:05:25PM THE WAY THE PRIORITIZATION.
05:05:28PM TWO SPOTS.
05:05:32PM WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE.
05:05:34PM FLORIDA BY THE PAM IORIO GARAGE.
05:05:41PM PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO TURN RIGHT.
05:05:43PM THE LEFT LANES ARE CLOSED ONCE YOU GET UNDERNEATH THE
05:05:47PM CONVENTION CENTER AND VIK HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
05:05:49PM IF WE CLEAR THAT, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE ANTI-PEDESTRIAN,
05:05:52PM BUT WE HAVE TO FIND A LONGER TERM SOLUTION TO GET PEOPLE
05:05:56PM ACROSS THERE.
05:05:57PM AND SOFT PLEASE WORK ON THAT.
05:05:59PM BUT ALSO, VIK, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT WHY CAN'T WE
05:06:06PM TAKE UP THE POLICE INTERVENTION AND LET THE LIGHTS WORK THE
05:06:11PM WAY THEY ARE.
05:06:11PM I SEE THAT IT CONFUSES EVERYONE.
05:06:15PM SHUT DOWN THE WRONG DIRECTION IN THE STREET.
05:06:18PM WHEN I LEAVE HERE, I TRY TO GO THERE TO BAYSHORE.
05:06:21PM AND I GET CHUCKED BACK HERE AND HAVE TO GO A YOU WILL THE
05:06:24PM WAY BACK AROUND.
05:06:25PM WHY NOT LET THE ROADS OPEN AND LET THE LIGHTS RUN THEM BY
05:06:29PM THEMSELVES?
05:06:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
05:06:31PM MAY I DEFER TO THE MAJOR ON THAT.
05:06:34PM >> SURE, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
05:06:36PM RICK MILLS, SPECIAL OPERATION DIVISION, TAMPA POLICE
05:06:42PM DEPARTMENT.
05:06:42PM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.
05:06:44PM WE RELY A LOT ON VIK'S GROUP TO COME UP WITH M.O.T. TRAFFIC
05:06:50PM PLANS AND WHATNOT.
05:06:52PM YOU LOOK AT A SPECIAL EVENT LIKE AMALIE ARENA OR TAMPA
05:06:57PM CONVENTION CENTER, BRINGING IN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL AT
05:07:00PM ONE TIME.
05:07:00PM THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN FOR THAT INGRESS TO PROPERLY PUT
05:07:03PM EVERYBODY IN AND GET THEM IN PLACE AND AT THE END OF THE
05:07:07PM EVENT OR WHATNOT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PROPER EGRESS.
05:07:12PM SO, UNFORTUNATELY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN, TRUST
05:07:16PM ME.
05:07:16PM BUT IN SPEAKING -- UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INGRESS
05:07:22PM AND EGRESS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE
05:07:25PM LIGHT CYCLES OR CONES FOR THAT MATTER OR BARRIERS, THEY MOVE
05:07:28PM THEM, GO AROUND THEM, THEY RUN LIGHTS.
05:07:31PM AND QUITE HONESTLY THEY DON'T CARE OF THE A PEDESTRIAN.
05:07:34PM THAT IS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY SEED OF THING AND
05:07:36PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO BE THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT A
05:07:39PM SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR NOT ONLY THE PEDESTRIANS BUT THE PEOPLE
05:07:43PM WHO ARE COMING TO AND FROM THEIR HOMES TRAVELING THROUGH
05:07:46PM DOWNTOWN OR COMING TO AND FROM THE EVENT.
05:07:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL TALK TO YOU, VIK, ABOUT THIS MORE OFF
05:07:57PM LINE.
05:07:57PM I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS.
05:07:59PM I KNOW THE LIGHTNING IS TRYING TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR
05:08:03PM AND ALL THAT WILL CHANGE THE WAY EVERYBODY GETS ACCESS TO
05:08:06PM THAT.
05:08:06PM WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC BECAUSE NOT JUST
05:08:10PM HARBOUR ISLAND, BUT PEOPLE LIVING IN CONDOS, APARTMENTS AND
05:08:13PM ALL THESE NEW BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT
05:08:16PM AROUND DOWNTOWN.
05:08:16PM SO APPRECIATE -- APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP.
05:08:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:08:22PM APPRECIATE SO MUCH.
05:08:23PM NEXT UP, WE HAVE IDEAS FOR GARAGE-SIZED PARKING SPACES.
05:08:29PM MR. BENSON.
05:08:30PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, LAST BUT NOT
05:08:34PM LEAST.
05:08:34PM STEPHEN BENSON, JOINED WITH JONATHAN SCOTT WITH MOBILITY.
05:08:38PM IF HE IS STILL ON THE LINE, MR. COTTON IN LAND DEVELOPMENT
05:08:42PM COORDINATION, AS WELL AS MR. BRUCE ALLEN FROM SOUTHWEST.
05:08:45PM CAN WE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
05:08:50PM THIS MOTION IS RELATED TO THE PRELIMINARY IDEAS FOR THE
05:08:56PM GARAGE SIZE PARKING SPACES SO CARS HAVE SPACE TO OPEN THEIR
05:09:02PM DOORS INSIDE THE GARAGE.
05:09:03PM I HAVE SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MOTION MAKER AND
05:09:07PM GOT TOGETHER WITH STAFF AND WE PULLED TOGETHER THIS INITIAL
05:09:10PM INFORMATION TO RESPONDS TO THE MOTION AND JONATHAN HAS
05:09:12PM SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS RELATING TO THE IDEAS PORTION.
05:09:17PM SO OFF-STREET PARKING SPACE STANDARDS ARE CONTAINED IN
05:09:21PM CHAPTER 27.
05:09:22PM THIS IS THE TABLE THAT PROVIDES THE STANDARDS FOR THE
05:09:25PM DIMENSIONS FOR PARKING SPACES.
05:09:27PM AND LOOKING AT PARKING SPACE SIZE WITHIN A GARAGE VERSUS
05:09:31PM OUTSIDE A GARAGE, NOT REALLY A DIFFERENCE TO IT.
05:09:34PM THE STANDARD DIMENSION THERE THAT YOU SEE FOR A SINGLE SPACE
05:09:38PM IS 9 X 18.
05:09:40PM DOUBLE-CAR GARAGE, 18 X 18.
05:09:44PM PUTTING TWO OF THOSE TOGETHER; HOWEVER, THE ISSUE I THINK
05:09:48PM THE MOTION IS TRYING PIN DOWN IS THAT -- AND PARKING LOTS,
05:09:54PM YOU -- YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR DOOR SWING.
05:09:57PM AND THE DOOR SWING GOES OVER THE LINE.
05:09:59PM PUTTING THE WALL AT THE LINE YOU WILL ENDS UP WITH THE
05:10:02PM SITUATION ON THE RIGHT THAT THE DOOR CAN'T OPEN EVEN THOUGH
05:10:05PM THE CAR FITS AND ADEQUATE CLEARANCE TO GET IN AND OUT.
05:10:08PM THE SECOND ITEM THAT -- ASPECT OF THIS IS SPECIFICALLY
05:10:13PM RELATED TO QUESTION OF THE SOLID WASTE BINS, ESPECIALLY WHEN
05:10:18PM THEY ARE STORED INSIDE THE GARAGE VERSUS OUTSIDE THE GARAGE.
05:10:21PM ADEQUATE SPACE SET ASIDE TO MAKE SURE THE BINS ARE NOT GOING
05:10:25PM WHERE THE CAR IS SUPPOSED TO GO AND THE CARS ARE OVERFLOWING
05:10:29PM INTO THE STREET.
05:10:29PM I AM NOT GOING TO READ THE ACTUAL INFORMATION IN TERMS OF
05:10:33PM WHAT THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT ESSENTIALLY, FOR
05:10:36PM ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION, MAJOR RENOVATIONS AND/OR CHANGE.
05:10:40PM >> OF USE FOR ANY USE SHALL PROVIDE FACILITIES FOR THE
05:10:43PM CENTRAL STORAGE OF SOLID WASTE WITHIN THE LOT.
05:10:45PM SOLID WASTE FACILITIES MAY BE LOCATED INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF
05:10:49PM THE BUILDING, SHALL CONTAIN EQUIPMENT AND NECESSARY SPACE
05:10:51PM THAT IS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE MECHANICAL SOLID WASTE SYSTEM
05:10:55PM AND BE DESIGNED IN THE SERVICEABLE AND SAFE ACCESSIBLE AND
05:10:59PM APPROVED LOCATION.
05:11:00PM THE SIZE OF THE SOLID WASTE BIN.
05:11:02PM THE SPACE THAT IS REQUIRED IS FIVE FEET BY FIVE FEET, THAT
05:11:08PM IS SOMETHING THAT IS ADDRESSED THROUGH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW
05:11:11PM PROCESS.
05:11:11PM I AM GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO JONATHAN TOO TALK ABOUT THAT
05:11:16PM PROCESS SPECIFICALLY AND 106789 IDEAS HE HAS FOR ADDRESS THE
05:11:19PM DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA FOR GARAGE SIZE.
05:11:22PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:11:23PM YES, SIR.
05:11:24PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
05:11:28PM SOLID WASTE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL USES, WE ARE LOOKING AT
05:11:31PM THEM HAVING TO MEET OR SET ASIDE ROOM IN THE GARAGE WHERE
05:11:34PM THEY CAN HAVE THE OPTION TO PUT AN ENCLOSURE IN THE YARD
05:11:37PM SOMEWHERE.
05:11:38PM AND THEY CAN TO EITHER-OR.
05:11:42PM THEY PUT IT IN THE GARAGE, WE RECOMMEND THEY HAVE IT LITTLE
05:11:46PM BIGGER.
05:11:46PM LONG STORY SHORT.
05:11:47PM APPEAR RULE OF THUMB FOR A GOOD TWO-CAR GARAGE LIKE WE WERE
05:11:53PM SAYING, TWO 9 X 18 PARKING SPACES 18 FEED WIDE.
05:11:58PM IF YOU TRY TO MAKE THAT GARAGE 18 FEET WIDE, PULL THE TWO
05:12:02PM CARS IN, WOULD YOU HAVE TO JUMP OUT THE WINDOWS TO GET OUT.
05:12:05PM IF YOU RECALL THAT STORY.
05:12:06PM TALKING TO MANY ARCHITECTS, A GOOD RULE OF THUMB FOR A
05:12:10PM TWO-CAR GARAGE WOULD TO BE FEET X 20 FEET.
05:12:14PM THAT -- I TALKED TOO MANY OF THEM.
05:12:15PM THEY HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE WITH MANY HOUSES.
05:12:19PM BY EVEN ASK -- WHAT IF THE GARAGE IS SMALLER THAN THAT.
05:12:23PM AND THEY SAY WE JUST DON'T DO IT THAT.
05:12:26PM IT IS JUST NOT A GOOD IDEA TO EVEN CONSIDER IT.
05:12:30PM SO THEN WHAT WE RECOMMEND AS YOU KNOW A 20 BY 20 MINIMUM
05:12:34PM SIZE.
05:12:34PM IF THEY WERE GOING TO INSTALL THE SOLID WASTE BIN INSIDE THE
05:12:38PM GARAGE.
05:12:38PM WEIGH WOULD SAY MAKE IT 2 FEET IN LENGTH.
05:12:42PM SAVE A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE.
05:12:44PM THAT IS BASICALLY ITS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
05:12:46PM IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THERE.
05:12:48PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YEAH, JUST TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE DECK
05:12:53PM VERY QUICKLY.
05:12:53PM WE LOOKED AT THREE OF THE CASES.
05:12:55PM I THINK THIS CAME UP.
05:12:56PM FOR -- FOR THIS FIRST ONE -- AND THE REASON IS -- BECAUSE I
05:13:01PM THINK THE THOUGHT, THE DISCUSSION WHEN THIS CAME UP, THIS
05:13:04PM WOULD BE A CHAPTER ERR 27 REQUIREMENT.
05:13:06PM HOWEVER, THE CHAPTER 27 STANDARDS OBVIOUSLY BE WAIVED.
05:13:10PM WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU HERE THAT THE HISTORY OF -- THE
05:13:14PM HISTORY OF THE FIND FROM STAFF WHICH ARE REFLECTED IN THE
05:13:17PM INCONSISTENCY NOTE AND THE ACTUAL COUNCIL DECISION.
05:13:20PM JUST TO KIND OF CUT TO THE CHASE, THE REASON WE ARE SHOWING
05:13:23PM YOU THAT IS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THERE ARE TO BE A
05:13:25PM TECHNICAL STANDARD THAT CANNOT BE WAIVED.
05:13:28PM WILL NOT GO IN CHAPTER 27; HOWEVER, ALL OF THE STANDARDS I
05:13:31PM HAVE SHOWN YOU THUS FAR IN CHAPTER 27 ALREADY.
05:13:34PM WE KNOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH A CODE REFORM PROCESS AND TRUE
05:13:37PM SOME OF THIS UP AND KIND OF TAKE A SET BACK IN THE WHOLE
05:13:42PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS A WHOLE AND RE-EVALUATE SOME OF THE
05:13:45PM PHILOSOPHY WHAT IS IN THERE AND WHAT IS NOT IN THERE.
05:13:48PM WE WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE
05:13:52PM JONATHAN'S RECOMMENDATION AND DETERMINE THROUGH THE CODE
05:13:55PM REFORM PROCESS WHERE THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST SHOULD GO.
05:13:57PM WE WILL COME BACK AND BRING YOU THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION
05:14:00PM IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS.
05:14:02PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND WHAT WE
05:14:06PM ARE ASKING YOU TO DO IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
05:14:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
05:14:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:14:12PM THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
05:14:15PM AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH CODE REFORM.
05:14:22PM I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WAIT FIVE
05:14:26PM YEARS AND HAVE UNUSABLE GARAGES.
05:14:28PM YES.
05:14:29PM FOR ME, THIS IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
05:14:30PM I APPRECIATE IT.
05:14:31PM THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT, FOR ADDING YOUR EXPERTISE.
05:14:36PM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
05:14:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE.
05:14:38PM YES, SIR?
05:14:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THING GOES HAND IN HAND.
05:14:41PM I KNOW YOU SUBMITTED THE REPORT WHICH WE OPENED ON ITEM 95
05:14:45PM WITH THE AISLE-STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
05:14:47PM THIS ALL KIND OF GOES THE SAME WAY AND YOU HAVE THE SAME
05:14:52PM STEPS OF PEOPLE THAT, LISTENING.
05:14:54PM THIS IS NOT THE END OF IT.
05:14:55PM WE ARE WORKING -- STAFF IS WORKING HARD TO RECTIFY THE
05:14:59PM SITUATIONS.
05:14:59PM AND BUILD A BETTER CODE FOR BETTER CONSTRUCTION.
05:15:03PM THANK YOU.
05:15:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:15:05PM ITEM NUMBER 95.
05:15:06PM WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED AND FILED.
05:15:10PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE NUMBER 95?
05:15:15PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:15:16PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:15:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:15:18PM ITEM NUMBER 96.
05:15:19PM TAKEN CARE OF.
05:15:20PM ITEM NUMBER 97.
05:15:23PM MISS ZELMAN, YOU ARE HERE.
05:15:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE ELSE WOULD SHE BE AT 5:15 ON A
05:15:31PM THURSDAY.
05:15:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT HERE.
05:15:33PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WON'T THEN.
05:15:35PM [LAUGHTER]
05:15:37PM GOOD AFTERNOON, ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
05:15:38PM SO IN THIS MOTION, YOU HAD ASKED ME TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE
05:15:45PM REQUIRING THAT AGENDA ITEMS BE AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUED FOR A
05:15:48PM WEEK IF THE FULL PRESENTATION AND BACK-UP MATERIAL ARE NOT
05:15:52PM PLACED IN THE PUBLIC -- IN THE ONLINE DATABASE AS OF 5 P.M.
05:15:57PM THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
05:15:58PM AND I SENT YOU ALL A MEMO PROPOSING THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS
05:16:04PM MORE APPROPRIATE THAT RATHER THAN DO AN ORDINANCE, YOU
05:16:12PM SIMPLY AMEND YOUR OWN RULES BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE
05:16:15PM REALIZED BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE UNTIL I WENT AND
05:16:21PM LOOKED AT THEM.
05:16:21PM YOU ALREADY HAVE A RULE IN YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURES THAT
05:16:25PM SAYS ALL PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, STAFF REPORTS,
05:16:28PM RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS INTENDED FOR
05:16:33PM CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE FILED WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
05:16:36PM CLERK ON OR BEFORE 2 P.M. PRIOR TO THE THURSDAY MEETING OF
05:16:40PM THE CITY COUNCIL.
05:16:41PM REALLY WHAT -- ALL YOU ARE ASKING NOW IS TO ADD CONSEQUENCES
05:16:46PM IF THAT RULE ISN'T FOLLOWED.
05:16:50PM SO I OFFERED A SUGGESTION THAT YOU COULD ADD LANGUAGE SUCH
05:16:53PM AS, QUOTE, FAILURE TO SUBMIT A REQUESTED WRITTEN STAFF
05:16:57PM REPORT IN SUFFICIENT TIME FOR IT TO BE PUBLISHED WITH THE
05:17:00PM DRAFT AGENDA ON THE FRIDAY PRIOR TO IT THE SCHEDULED MEETING
05:17:03PM SHALL RESULT IN AN AUTOMATIC CONTINUANCE OF THE ITEM TO THE
05:17:07PM NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
05:17:09PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
05:17:11PM I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BE MAKE SURE THAT FOR PURPOSES
05:17:15PM OF THIS AUTOMATIC CONTINUANCE, WE ARE ONLY TALKING OF STAFF
05:17:19PM REPORTS, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS ON YOUR AGENDA, ALL
05:17:24PM THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, THAT ALREADY AS PART OF THE AGENDA
05:17:29PM CREATION PROCESS, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE UPLOADED WITH -- YOU
05:17:35PM WILL NEVER SEE A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT THAT
05:17:38PM DOESN'T HAVE THE CONTRACT ATTACH TO IT.
05:17:40PM FOR EXAMPLE.
05:17:42PM AND THEN, ALSO, WE NEED TO ACCEPT OUT QUASI-JUDICIAL
05:17:48PM BECAUSE, OF COURSE, YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT LAND
05:17:51PM USE HEARINGS WANTING TO PRESENT THINGS IN THE RECORD THAT
05:17:55PM NIGHT.
05:17:55PM AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT -- IT IS CLEAR WE ARE
05:17:58PM NOT CAPTURING THAT.
05:17:59PM SOME THAT'S I DIDN'T LIMIT IT TO STAFF REPORTS, WHICH I
05:18:03PM THINK WAS THE INTENT OF THE MOTION.
05:18:05PM AND THEN IN TERMS OF DOING IT AS RULE RELEVANT TO AN
05:18:16PM ORDINANCE.
05:18:17PM YOU HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND THE RESOLUTION HAS TO BE PRESENTED
05:18:21PM A THE TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
05:18:22PM THE PUCK WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT.
05:18:25PM RULES ARE SOLELY WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW TO ENFORCE.
05:18:34PM ORDINANCE IS A MATTER OF CITYWIDE LAW.
05:18:37PM TYPICALLY IS ENFORCED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
05:18:48PM THIS IS GOVERNING YOUR CITY COUNCIL RULINGS.
05:18:51PM IT MAKES MORE SENSE KEEPING IT IN YOUR RULES.
05:18:54PM FINALLY, HAVING IT IN YOUR RULES GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO
05:18:58PM WAIVE IT.
05:18:58PM THERE MAY BE A SITUATION, FOR EXAMPLE -- MARTY AND I WERE
05:19:03PM TALKING ABOUT THIS.
05:19:04PM YOU WALK IN AND A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TO
05:19:07PM TALK BEEN AN ITEM.
05:19:08PM AND THE STAFF WAS A DAY LATE GETTING THE POWERPOINT PUT
05:19:12PM TOGETHER OR WHATEVER, AND MAYBE COUNCIL WILL IN THAT
05:19:15PM SITUATION WANT TO GO AHEAD RATHER THAN MAKE EVERYONE THAT IS
05:19:19PM THERE HAVE TO COME BACK SO AGAIN HAVING THAT AS RULE WILL
05:19:27PM ALLOW YOU TO WAIVE YOUR OWN RULE.
05:19:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO SAVE TIME.
05:19:32PM I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND ADDING THE LANGUAGE TO THE RULE
05:19:36PM BOOK.
05:19:37PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ADOPT EXACTLY THE RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE OR
05:19:40PM MARTY CONSIDER --
05:19:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM WITH THE LANGUAGE.
05:19:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AN A SECOND.
05:19:44PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:19:46PM TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:19:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST TALKING TO STAFF, I WANTED TO GET TO
05:19:54PM THE BOTTOM OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE IN SOME
05:19:57PM INSTANCES, STAFF ARE WORK ON IT UP UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE AND
05:20:03PM I CAN HEAR UP HERE, WELL, WE JUST GOT IT THE DAY BEFORE THE
05:20:07PM MEETING.
05:20:08PM AND THIS IS OF CONCERN TO SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
05:20:12PM BUT I WANTED TO ASK -- I WANTED TO DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER, AND
05:20:16PM I REALIZED IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL WORKING UP TO THE
05:20:19PM LAST MINUTE TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR IN
05:20:23PM THE TIMEFRAME WE ASKED FOR IT.
05:20:25PM SOB, IT IS KINDS OF LIKE KID WITH THEIR HOMEWORK AND
05:20:29PM FINISHING THEIR BOOK REPORT THE DAY BEFORE IT WAS DUE.
05:20:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DID THAT.
05:20:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT IT IS ALSO WHAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO
05:20:36PM CONSIDERATION IS THAT OUR STAFF HAS A LOT OF THINGS TO DO.
05:20:39PM AND THIS IS -- THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR
05:20:45PM IS IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HAPPENING WITHIN
05:20:47PM THEIR PARTICULAR OFFICE THAT HAS DEADLINES .SO I JUST -- YOU
05:20:52PM KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE DO HAVE THE RULE IN PLACE.
05:20:56PM AND IF IT NEEDS TO CONTINUED, SO BE IT.
05:21:02PM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC IS HERE TO TALK OF IT.
05:21:06PM AND MAYBE PROVIDE A LITTLE GRACE.
05:21:07PM AND STAFF SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK US TO -- A WAY WHERE STAFF
05:21:12PM CAN SAY, WE ARE NOT READY.
05:21:15PM CAN THERE BE SOMETHING WRITTEN IN OUR RULES WHERE THE STAFF
05:21:18PM HAS TO SAY, MAYBE DAYS IN ADVANCE THAT THEY ARE NOT READY SO
05:21:22PM IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE?
05:21:25PM OR THEIR IT IS TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA.
05:21:28PM THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO VOTE ON?
05:21:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
05:21:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS.
05:21:36PM I WANT TO HEAR --
05:21:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE IN DISCUSSION.
05:21:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE IN DISCUSSION.
05:21:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
05:21:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:21:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO AHEAD.
05:21:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL BE COMING BACK.
05:21:46PM I THINK ADD, THERE ARE OTHER RULES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
05:21:50PM FORMALIZED YET THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY MADE A MOTION ON.
05:21:53PM FOR INSTANCE THE ONE IS THE NO RECONSIDERATION OF
05:21:56PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DECISIONS.
05:21:59PM BECAUSE I WAS WAITING NOR TO BECOME -- AND WE HAD THE
05:22:02PM SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING IN DECEMBER.
05:22:04PM AND NOW WE ARE COMING BACK IN APRIL WITH IT.
05:22:06PM SO, YEAH, IT IS COUNCIL'S MEASURE, WITH REGARD TO THIS, I
05:22:11PM JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU -- AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION
05:22:13PM WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
05:22:14PM WHAT CONSTITUTES A STAFF REPORT.
05:22:16PM SOMEBODY WHO IS PUTTING TOGETHER A POWERPOINT TO HELP WITH
05:22:19PM THEIR TALKING POINTS BUT DOESN'T HAVE DATA IN IT OR ANYTHING
05:22:23PM NECESSARILY THAT WAY AND THAT IS LATE.
05:22:26PM BUT ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION PROVIDED.
05:22:29PM DOES THAT THEN WARRANT A CONTINUANCE?
05:22:32PM GETS DOWN TO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
05:22:34PM AND THE QUESTION NOW -- FOR STAFF REPORTS, THIS
05:22:39PM ADMINISTRATION HAS -- HAS UPPED THE GAME IN THE SENSE THAT
05:22:45PM ANYTHING SEEMS TO REQUIRE A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, BUT
05:22:48PM SOMETIMES REPORTS OR INFORMATION DON'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE
05:22:52PM THAT.
05:22:52PM AND THE WAY YOU CAN SEE HOW SOMETIMES THE ADMINISTRATION
05:22:55PM WORKS, IT GOES FROM, THROUGH, THROUGH, THROUGH AND TO.
05:22:59PM IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS VERY STAFF-INTENSIVE.
05:23:06PM COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO PENALIZE STAFF FOR PUTTING FORTH
05:23:12PM THIS WORK.
05:23:13PM IT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
05:23:15PM THE PENDULUM CAN SWING THE OTHER WAY.
05:23:18PM IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS DURING THE RULES.
05:23:20PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM COMING IN.
05:23:23PM I APPRECIATE IT CITY ATTORNEY'S RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I,
05:23:26PM TOO, BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO NOT HAVE THIS AS AN
05:23:29PM ORDINANCE OVER COUNCIL'S RULES WHERE YOU HAVE CONTROL.
05:23:32PM YOU DON'T WANT TO IN A POSITION WHERE I SAY YOU HAVE THIS
05:23:36PM ROOM FULL.
05:23:37PM YOU HAVE THIS ORDINANCE BUT YOU HAVE NO DISCRETION.
05:23:39PM I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTING TO DO THAT.
05:23:43PM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION, I CAN BRING THAT BACK WITH
05:23:46PM EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE DISCUSSION --kt CARE ALREADY MADE A
05:23:49PM MOTION TO APPROVE IT NOW.
05:23:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN'T APPROVE IT NOW BECAUSE IN ORDER
05:23:53PM TO TAKE EFFECT, IT HAS TO BE WITHIN A RESOLUTION WHICH HAS
05:23:56PM TO BE READ AT TWO REGULAR MEETINGS, THE FIRST -- AND WILL
05:24:01PM COME BACK AT A RESOLUTION, IF YOU WANT THAT DONE, I CAN DO
05:24:04PM THAT AND WILL TAKE EFFECT IN MAY ANYWAY.
05:24:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOESN'T CHANGE THE TIMELINE.
05:24:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CHANGE THE TIMELINE BIN A FEW WEEKS.
05:24:12PM I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HAS GOTTEN THE MESSAGE OF WHAT
05:24:16PM THE INTENT OF THE RULE IS.
05:24:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:24:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:24:20PM FOR ME, IF I MAKE A MOTION.
05:24:22PM IT IS ON MY CALENDAR, WE -- OUR OFFICE REACHES OUT AT THE
05:24:26PM HALFWAY POINT.
05:24:27PM HOW ARE YOU DOING ON IT?
05:24:29PM DO YOU NEED MORE TIME?
05:24:31PM SO I THEN EXPECT THAT STAFF NEEDS MORE TIME AND A MOTION I
05:24:40PM MADE, I MOVE THINGS.
05:24:41PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
05:24:42PM I WOULD RATHER HAVING IT RIGHT AND DONE.
05:24:46PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
05:24:47PM THING RULE IS FINE AND FEBRUARY WE OURSELVES TAKE IT UPON
05:24:52PM OURSELVES TO REACH OUT TO THE STAFF OF WHOM WE MAKE A MOTION
05:24:55PM WITH AND STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE REACHING OUT TO US SAYING,
05:24:59PM HEY, I AM NOT QUITE DONE.
05:25:00PM WE HAD A BUSY THIS OR I HAD MORE INFORMATION CAN WE MOVE IT.
05:25:08PM THIS IS SUCCESSFUL FOR ME.
05:25:11PM I KNOW THIS RULE CAN WORK BUT FOR ME A COMMUNICATION AND A
05:25:18PM BUILDING OF WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT MOTIONS I
05:25:27PM MAKE ARE READY.
05:25:28PM IF THEY ARE NOT, I ABSOLUTELY WANT THEM TO BE CONTINUED
05:25:31PM BECAUSE I AM A PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO PREPARE AHEAD OF
05:25:34PM TIME.
05:25:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:25:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DO THE SAME THING.
05:25:38PM WE TALK TO STAFF.
05:25:39PM AND VERY OFTEN, THE ONES THAT I MAKE THE MOTION ON, YOU WILL
05:25:43PM SEE STAFF ARE THE ONES THAT ARE INITIATING THE CONTINUANCE
05:25:46PM BECAUSE I TALKED TO THEM IN ADVANCE.
05:25:48PM THERE ARE OTHER CASES WHERE HOW I DO SAY THIS -- STAFF GIVES
05:25:57PM ME AN INDICATION THAT THEY WERE INSTRUCTED NOT TO LOAD
05:26:01PM THINGS ON TO THE DATABASE UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.
05:26:03PM AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS A CHANCE TO REVIEW CERTAIN DOCUMENTS
05:26:07PM AND IN ADDITION TO US.
05:26:12PM STAFF NEEDS NOR TIME, WE SHOULD.
05:26:14PM LIKE THE HOUSING.
05:26:23PM BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE COULDN'T CONTINUE IT.
05:26:25PM IF IT WAS AS REGULAR ITEM WE WOULD HAVE CONTINUED IT AND GOT
05:26:29PM IT A DAY AND A HALF IN ADVANCE.
05:26:31PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT MARTY -- MARTY WILL BRING
05:26:35PM IT BACK FOR RESOLUTION FOR FIRST READING.
05:26:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE TAKING IT OFF --
05:26:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: HE TOLD ME I CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION TO
05:26:42PM APPROVE IT TODAY.
05:26:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN TAKE MOTION TO SAY PROVE IT TODAY
05:26:45PM BUT DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT TODAY.
05:26:48PM IT HAS TO COME IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
05:26:50PM I WANTED TO COMBINE EVERYTHING BECAUSE -- TO MAKE IT A
05:26:53PM COMPREHENSIVE CHANGE BECAUSE EVERY TIME I DO A RESOLUTION TO
05:26:55PM AMEND THE RULES, IT ENDS UP -- IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT
05:26:59PM -- IT JUST ENDS UP GETTING LONGER AND LONGER AND LONGER.
05:27:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WANT TO ADD IT WITH 99.
05:27:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE WANTS TO DO IT, I CAN DO IT AND BRING
05:27:08PM IT BACK WITH THE ISSUE OF THE CONSIDERATION OF THE
05:27:14PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE ALSO HELD IN ABEYANCE.
05:27:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK APRIL 4.
05:27:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT WHICH POINT, YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH
05:27:23PM A MENU CHANGES -- SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES OF HOW YOU RUN
05:27:28PM YOUR MEETINGS BASE ON MY CONVERSATION WITH NOT ONLY COUNCIL
05:27:32PM BUT STAFF WHO HAD SUGGESTIONS.
05:27:34PM THE THING IS SOME MAY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER.
05:27:40PM IT IS A MATTER OF WHERE COUNCIL --
05:27:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE WOULD LIKE BE IT CONTRADICTORY.
05:27:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE APRIL 4
05:27:50PM LIST.
05:27:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
05:27:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:27:53PM OPPOSED.
05:27:54PM THANK YOU.
05:27:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MISS ZELMAN.
05:27:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER
05:28:00PM 100.
05:28:00PM DOWN PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS ON AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE
05:28:04PM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER BOARD TECHNICAL ADVISORY COUNCIL.
05:28:09PM I SAT ON THAT BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS, AND --
05:28:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU MOO EN FOR ONE OF US --
05:28:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR A CITY COUNCILMEMBER TO REPRESENT
05:28:17PM THE CITY OR A -- THIS IS FOR MR. FORMICA.
05:28:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. FORMICA WISHES TO STEP DOWN AFTER TEN
05:28:26PM YEARS.
05:28:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNEE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES ON THE RIVER.
05:28:29PM WHO KAYAKS ON THE RIVER AND PICKS UP TRASH AND A GOOD
05:28:35PM STEWARD OF KEEPING HIS -- SHOULD I DIVULGE HIS NAME.
05:28:39PM I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM.
05:28:40PM HE LIVES RIGHT OFF OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
05:28:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE HAS COME HERE BEFORE.
05:28:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RON HATCH?
05:28:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU NOT SUPPOSED TO CALL HIS NAME.
05:28:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM EITHER.
05:29:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE IS RIGHT THERE AND I THINK HE IS
05:29:05PM GREAT.
05:29:05PM I WILL CALL HIM PERSONALLY IF IT IS ALL RIGHT.
05:29:07PM I KNOW HIM VERY, VERY AS WELL AND HE WILL BE A FANTASTIC
05:29:12PM ADDITION.
05:29:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ADVERTISING IT TO THE COMMUNITY OR
05:29:16PM SOMETHING FROM US?
05:29:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MAKE THE APPOINTMENT.
05:29:19PM WILL FORMICA WAS ON THE BOARD --
05:29:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK IT IS 30 YEARS.
05:29:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DID HE GIVE IT UP?
05:29:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE RETIRED.
05:29:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE WANTS TO BREATHE AIR.
05:29:28PM HE WANTS TO DRINK THE WATER.
05:29:30PM NOT LOOK AT IT.
05:29:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT, I WILL REACH OUT
05:29:34PM IF THE COUNCIL IS GOOD FOR IT.
05:29:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE IT HAPPEN.
05:29:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL PROVIDE YOUR OFFICE WITH CONTACT
05:29:40PM INFORMATION FROM THE RIVER BOARD STAFF TO INFORM HIM OF WHAT
05:29:43PM IT ENTAILS.
05:29:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD.
05:29:46PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.
05:29:47PM I HAVE A -- YES, SIR?
05:29:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A --
05:29:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO MINE.
05:29:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION FOR JOWL SOUZA, URBAN
05:30:00PM PLANNING 2 WITH THE URBAN MANAGEMENT.
05:30:03PM MR. SOUZA SERVED THE CITY FOR 35 YEARS IF POSSIBLE, THURSDAY
05:30:08PM MARCH 28.
05:30:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
05:30:10PM >> HE RETIRED?
05:30:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO DO IT HERE IN PERSON?
05:30:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:30:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 28.
05:30:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARCH 28.
05:30:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TWO COMMENDATIONS.
05:30:23PM ONE COMMENDATION AND ONE PRESENTATION.
05:30:24PM THAT'S GOOD.
05:30:25PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A MOTION.
05:30:27PM SECOND FROM --
05:30:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
05:30:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:30:33PM ANYTHING ELSE?
05:30:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:30:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOTHING FROM ME, CHAIR.
05:30:38PM BUT TO SAYS IT WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
05:30:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:30:41PM TOMORROW IS INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY.
05:30:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE 15TH AND 16th.
05:30:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I LOVE ALL WOMEN NO MATTER WHAT DAY IT
05:30:52PM IS.
05:30:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAPPY WOMEN HISTORY MONTH FOR ALL THE
05:30:55PM WOMEN IN TAMPA.
05:30:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND THAT.
05:30:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S IT.
05:30:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
05:30:59PM REAL QUICK.
05:31:00PM I AM WHO I AM TODAY BECAUSE OF THE WOMEN IN MY LIFE.
05:31:03PM IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM -- I AM SERIOUS, WASN'T FOR MY
05:31:07PM GRANDMOTHER, MY MOTHER, MY SISTER, MY WIFE, WHO KNOW WHERE I
05:31:11PM WILL BE.
05:31:11PM I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
05:31:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
05:31:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:31:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE TWO ITEMS.
05:31:19PM FIRST, AS WE ALL KNOW AND EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT, WE
05:31:22PM HAVE -- SPEAKING OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, WE HAVE WOMEN'S
05:31:25PM SOCCER COMING TO TAMPA.
05:31:27PM AND THEY ARE SETTING UP A -- A TEMPORARY STADIUM AT BLAKE
05:31:32PM HIGH SCHOOL.
05:31:32PM THEIR FIRST MATCH IS IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
05:31:36PM BUT THEY -- THEY HAVE AN ISSUE.
05:31:39PM BECAUSE THEY ARE A SPORTS TEAM PLAYING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY,
05:31:42PM THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LIQUOR LICENSE AND ALL, AND WE
05:31:45PM DON'T WANT TO WET ZONE BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
05:31:47PM THEY CAN ONLY DO THREE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS BECAUSE OF TECH
05:31:53PM TECHNICALITIES.
05:31:53PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE
05:31:56PM TAMPA BAY FUTBOL CLUB FOR TEMPORARY ALCOHOL SALES AND BRING
05:32:02PM BACK LANGUAGE FOR THE JANUARY LDC CYCLE.
05:32:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:32:08PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:32:09PM OPPOSED.
05:32:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECONDLY, I AM EXCITED TO SAY WE ARE
05:32:15PM MOVING FORWARD OF FILLING THE POSITION OF BUDGET ANALYST FOR
05:32:18PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
05:32:19PM STAFF HAS FINISHED TABULATING THE RANKINGS BY COUNCIL.
05:32:23PM AS PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATED, WE WILL INVITE THE TOP FOUR TO
05:32:26PM BE INTERVIEWED DIRECTLY BY COUNCIL.
05:32:28PM THE FOUR CANDIDATES.
05:32:41PM FINAL SELECTION OF THE CITY BUDGE ANALYST MUST TAKE PLACE
05:32:46PM DURING A PUBLIC NOTICED MEET.
05:32:48PM I RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL PRESENT A TIME OF WHERE MEMBERS
05:32:54PM ASK QUESTIONS.
05:32:55PM ALL FOUR CANDIDATES LIVE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
05:32:57PM TWO OPTIONS TO DO THIS.
05:32:58PM OPTION NUMBER ONE, SCHEDULE THE INTERVIEWS DURING A
05:33:01PM REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL SESSION.
05:33:02PM AS WE ALL KNOW, THE NEXT -- ALL OF OUR COUNCIL SESSIONS ARE
05:33:07PM JAM-PACKED.
05:33:08PM BUT OPTION WILL BE MARCH 28, WHICH WE HAVE NINE STAFF
05:33:11PM REPORTS AND UNFINISHED ITEMS.
05:33:14PM APRIL 4, TEN UNFINISHED; APRIL 10, EIGHT STAFF REPORTS AND 10
05:33:24PM UNFINISHED ITEMS.
05:33:25PM ITEM 2, COUNCIL CHAMBER IS PAY AVAILABLE ON MONDAY MARCH 25
05:33:30PM OR USE IT APRIL 2.
05:33:31PM >> MARCH 25 IS PREFERABLE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO
05:33:41PM EXPEDITE THIS.
05:33:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WENT TOP GET MY PHONE BECAUSE --
05:33:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR.
05:33:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT TIME?
05:33:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN DO IT EARLY -- LIKE A NORMAL 9 A.M.
05:33:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN DO 9 A.M.
05:33:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, ANYTHING MARCH 25 AT 9 A.M.?
05:33:58PM AND SHE WILL APPEAR MAGICALLY.
05:34:01PM SO YOU ARE GOOD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
05:34:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:34:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
05:34:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS A MONDAY.
05:34:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MARCH 25, I HAVE THREE THINGS ON MY --
05:34:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL HAVE TO MOVE A COUPLE OF THINGS BUT I
05:34:15PM CAN DO THAT.
05:34:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, OPEN MARCH 25 AT 9 A.M.?
05:34:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN VIERA IS NOT HERE.
05:34:27PM WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIS SCHEDULE.
05:34:30PM HE IS AN ABSENT --
05:34:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE SOMETHING BUT I WILL MOVE IT.
05:34:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE AN UNMOVABLE DOCTOR APPOINTMENT.
05:34:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE THREE EVENTS THAT DAY AND I
05:34:45PM DEFINITELY CAN'T DO IT.
05:34:46PM DOCTOR AS APPOINTMENT.
05:34:49PM I HAVE THREE THINGS ON MY SCHEDULE.
05:34:51PM IT MEANS THE SAME THING.
05:34:52PM THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE.
05:34:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APRIL 2.
05:34:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HURTAK CAN'T DO IT ON THE 2nd.
05:35:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO DO WE WANT TO ADD THEM TO OUR REGULAR
05:35:05PM COUNCIL AGENDA SOMEBODY IN.
05:35:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN PEOPLE DO AN EVENING MEETING INSTEAD?
05:35:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL CHAMBERS OPEN?
05:35:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK NEW TERMS OF PROCESS.
05:35:16PM WHY CAN'T WE DO IT THE WAY WITH THE CRA MANAGERS WE
05:35:20PM INDIVIDUALLY MEET WITH THEM AND STACK UP A WHOLE DAY OR TWO
05:35:23PM DAYS?
05:35:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE ARE ISSUES WITH -- I WILL LET MARTY
05:35:27PM ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
05:35:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN MEET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
05:35:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN MEET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY BUT AS
05:35:32PM FAR AS THE HIRING PROCESS.
05:35:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAS TO BE DONE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
05:35:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT WILL WORK.
05:35:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WILL BE A SHORTER DISCUSSION IF WE
05:35:39PM DIDN'T HAVE TO INTERVIEW.
05:35:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW WILL THAT WORK LOGISTICALLY.
05:35:44PM I AM CURIOUS.
05:35:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID MY GOOGLE RESEARCH.
05:35:50PM AND HIRING AND SPECIFICALLY UNIVERSITY IN THE STATE OF
05:35:53PM FLORIDA.
05:35:53PM THEY HAD -- THEY HAD TO DO AN INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH A
05:35:57PM PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING.
05:36:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS A GROUP AND NOT INDIVIDUALLY.
05:36:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU COULD TALK TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY HAS TO
05:36:10PM BE AN INTERVIEW PROCESS.
05:36:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN HAVE THE MEETINGS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
05:36:20PM BUT CAN'T BE OPEN TO MORE THAN ONE OF US.
05:36:24PM PUBLIC AND MEDIA COME IN --
05:36:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE TO BE WITH THIS,
05:36:30PM THAT IS THE NEXT QUESTION.
05:36:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO BE.
05:36:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD THINK -- LET'S SAY IMPOSSIBLE TO
05:36:37PM GET ALL THREE OF US ON A SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THIS OR ADD
05:36:40PM IT TO THESE ALREADY VERY, VERY BUSY DAYS.
05:36:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE ALREADY INTERVIEWED THEM.
05:36:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHO IS PROBLEM.
05:36:54PM INTERVIEWING FOR A PUBLIC POSITION IN GOVERNMENT, THERE IS A
05:36:58PM LOT -- THERE IS A QUAGMIRE OF THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS -- ONE
05:37:03PM THING TO HAVE CASUAL CONVERSATION, BUT DOING VERY SPECIFIC
05:37:06PM INTERVIEWS.
05:37:07PM WE TRITE TO MAKE THIS A VERY CONTROLLED PROCESS AND A LEGAL
05:37:14PM PROCESS WORKING WITH HR.
05:37:17PM I AM A LITTLE TENTATIVE AND NERVOUS SAYING WE WILL CALL THEM
05:37:20PM INTERVIEW AND THEY WILL HAVE ALWAYS THESE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT
05:37:24PM QUESTIONS COMING FROM SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
05:37:25PM HEARING SEVEN DIFFERENT ANSWERS.
05:37:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY HAVE A
05:37:36PM GAUNTLET OF SEVEN PEOPLE.
05:37:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A REALLY CUMBERSOME TO THIS --
05:37:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE CRA.
05:37:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN'T SEQUESTER.
05:37:48PM IF IT IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC.
05:37:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WENT TO THE CRA CHAIR --
05:37:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MIC.
05:38:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DENT TO THE CRA CHAIR, WE DID INDIVIDUAL
05:38:04PM MEET WITH EACH PERSON AND THEN CAME TOGETHER AS A GROUP,
05:38:06PM ASKED THEM A FEW QUESTIONS.
05:38:07PM AND THAT WAS THAT.
05:38:08PM HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT?
05:38:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ON YOUR OWN TIME.
05:38:14PM IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
05:38:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THEY WERE SCHEDULED.
05:38:17PM WE HAVE -- BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS EACH OF THEM CAMPED IN
05:38:21PM ONE PARTICULAR CONFERENCE ROOM AND WE ALL HAD TIMES THAT WE
05:38:25PM COULD MEET WITH THEM.
05:38:25PM AND --
05:38:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE NOBODY DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
05:38:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:38:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STILL ONE DAY MAKING TIMES.
05:38:32PM NO DIFFERENT WHETHER IN THE CHAMBER OR CONFERENCE ROOM.
05:38:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS BECAUSE THOSE DAYS OR THE CONFERENCE
05:38:43PM ROOMS CAN BE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT A DAY.
05:38:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
05:38:51PM GO THROUGH OTHER DAYS BECAUSE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN COUNCIL
05:38:54PM CHAMBER.
05:38:54PM >>CLERK: APRIL 8, 15 AND 16.
05:38:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OTHER THING WHEN WE DID THE FIRST ROUND
05:39:03PM OF CRA INTERVIEWS.
05:39:05PM A PERSON THAT TOOK MINUTES OR NOTES.
05:39:07PM THE PROTECTION OF HAVING A HR PERSON.
05:39:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EACH OF THEM WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC?
05:39:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THEY WERE NOT OPEN.
05:39:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT OPEN.
05:39:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MINUTES WERE TAKEN?
05:39:20PM I CAN TALK TO MR. MASSEY.
05:39:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU SHOULD STOP TALKING RIGHTS
05:39:25PM NOW.
05:39:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: APRIL 8 IS A GOOD DAY FOR HURTAK AND
05:39:31PM HENDERSON.
05:39:31PM APRIL DATE FOR HENDERSON.
05:39:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APRIL 8.
05:39:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOOD.
05:39:38PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
05:39:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM OKAY.
05:39:44PM 9 A.M.
05:39:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 8 AT 9 A.M.
05:39:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE
05:39:55PM THE FOUR APPLICANTS FOR COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR 9 A.M. APRIL 8.
05:39:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:40:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
05:40:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION IS, WHAT -- WHAT WILL THE -- WHAT
05:40:07PM WILL THAT FORMAT LOOK LIKE?
05:40:09PM ARE WE JUST ASKING THEM QUESTIONS?
05:40:11PM ARE THEY DOING LIKE A TWO-MINUTE PRESENTATION?
05:40:14PM WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE?
05:40:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
05:40:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:40:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT 9 A.M.?
05:40:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
05:40:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: SET THE GOAL GETTING BUT BY NOON.
05:40:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: APRIL 8.
05:40:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT 9 A.M.
05:40:37PM >> WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK.
05:40:38PM APRIL 8, MONDAY, 9 A.M. TO NOON FOR A SPECIAL CALLED
05:40:43PM MEETING.
05:40:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:40:45PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:40:46PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:40:48PM ANYTHING ELSE?
05:40:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: QUESTION.
05:40:50PM I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.
05:40:53PM ONCE WE MEET THEM, DO WE DECIDE PUBLICLY AS WELL?
05:40:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKE A VOTE THAT DAY.
05:40:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CLAP AND GO TO LUNCH.
05:41:01PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
05:41:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
05:41:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:41:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE FOUR SHORT ONES.
05:41:08PM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:41:10PM THE PROCESS WAS EXCELLENT.
05:41:12PM YOU ENDED UP WITH THE ONES I SHORT LISTED TOO, I THINK.
05:41:15PM I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD THE SAFETY
05:41:27PM OF IT.
05:41:27PM BY PERSONALLY SEE PEOPLE PUSHING STROLLERS WHERE THEY COULD
05:41:31PM WALK 100 MORE YARDS AND GO THE FLASHING LIGHT.
05:41:35PM THEY PUSH STROLLERS ACROSS THE MEDIAN AND ACROSS THE ROAD
05:41:38PM AND PEOPLE SPEEDING.
05:41:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO REPORT ON
05:41:42PM JUNE 6 OF THE CURRENT SAFETY OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND
05:41:46PM UPDATE COUNCIL ON THE SCHEDULE FOR UPCOMING CHANGES THAT
05:41:49PM SHOULD OR WILL BE MADE.
05:41:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH
05:41:53PM DISCUSSION COMING.
05:41:54PM WHO WILL SECOND IT?
05:41:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SECOND IT.
05:41:57PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE REQUEST AND A PERSONAL
05:42:00PM POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
05:42:01PM PRIOR TO SERVING ON COUNCIL, THEY INSTALLED ONE OF THOSE
05:42:04PM BEACONS -- AND IT IS MIDBLOCK ON BAYSHORE BETWEEN SWAN AND
05:42:11PM BREVARD.
05:42:11PM I PERSONALLY WITNESSED -- I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY
05:42:16PM ISSUES, REAR ENDS, SCREECHING -- SCREECHING BRAKES FOR
05:42:21PM PEDESTRIANS.
05:42:21PM BECAUSE IT IS MIDBLOCK AND ALL THE PEDESTRIANS TYPICALLY
05:42:24PM WILL COME DOWN EITHER BREVARD OR SWANN.
05:42:27PM THAT IT WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM.
05:42:30PM THEY WILL CROSS THERE.
05:42:31PM IT IS CROSS BE -- WE HAD FATALITIES AT SWANN AND BAYSHORE.
05:42:36PM WE HAD ACCIDENTS.
05:42:37PM WE HAD ONE RECENTLY WITH A YOUNG WOMAN WHO WAS SERIOUSLY
05:42:44PM CRITICALLY INJURED AND THIS THING IS MIDBLOCK CAUSING
05:42:47PM PROBLEMS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT PREDICTING TO STOP MID
05:42:50PM BLOCK.
05:42:52PM I REALLY WANT THEM TO STUDY THAT LIGHT.
05:42:54PM IT IS PROBLEMATIC THEY ARE CROSSING IN THE MIDDLE.
05:43:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MADE THE MOTION.
05:43:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM
05:43:13PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:43:13PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:43:14PM OPPOSED?
05:43:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER ONE IS.
05:43:25PM I AM DOING RESEARCH AND TALKED TO MARTY.
05:43:27PM AS YOU SEE A LOT OF PUBLICITY OF YBOR CITY HOW WE ARE LOSING
05:43:32PM OUR OWN RESTAURANTS AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT TO BE FULL OF
05:43:39PM CHAIN RESTAURANTS.
05:43:40PM SEVERAL STUDIES OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT SET UP
05:43:44PM PROHIBITIONS IN NARROW AREAS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT
05:43:47PM PROHIBIT FORMULA RESTAURANTS IS THE NAME OF.
05:43:51PM SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO EXPLAIN.
05:43:54PM MOTION TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY TO
05:43:57PM RETURN TO PRESENT ON JUNE 6 WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF
05:44:00PM PROHIBITING NEW FORMULA RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES ON 7th
05:44:07PM AND 8th AVENUE ON NUCCIO AND 22nd AVENUE IN YBOR CITY BASE
05:44:11PM $ON SUCCESSFUL MODELS IN OTHER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
05:44:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A PLACE WITH A BEACH PLACE AT
05:44:17PM ANNA MARIA ISLAND AND THEY LIMIT CHAIN PLACES.
05:44:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY GOT SUED A COUPLE OF TIMES BUT LOOKS
05:44:24PM LIKE IF YOU MAKE IT -- YOU NEED TO GET THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
05:44:27PM OFFICE TO WEIGH IN.
05:44:28PM BUT IF IT IS A VERY NARROW AREA AND IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
05:44:32PM NOT TALKING OF ALL OF YBOR BUT A COUPLE OF STREETS, IT IS
05:44:36PM POSSIBLE.
05:44:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: READ THE MOTION FROM ME.
05:44:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND IS
05:44:44PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:44:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTION ASK THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND
05:44:50PM CITY ATTORNEY TO RETURN ON JUNE 6 WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF
05:44:53PM PROHIBITING NEW FORMULA RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES ON 7th
05:44:56PM AND 8th AVENUES FROM NUCCIO PARKWAY TO 22nd AVENUE IN YBOR
05:45:01PM CITY BASED ON SUCCESSFUL MODELS IN OTHER HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
05:45:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT
05:45:07PM THAT MEANS.
05:45:07PM THE WORDS SOUNDS REAL GOOD.
05:45:09PM DOES THAT MEAN ALL HIGH-END MENU?
05:45:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO McDONALD'S.
05:45:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO OLIVE GARDEN --
05:45:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IT MEANS NO CHAINS.
05:45:20PM SMALL CHAINS ARE OKAY, BUT THE BIG CHAINS LIKE COLUMBIA --
05:45:25PM YOU COULD SAY IT A CHAIN, BUT IT IS A SMALL CHAIN.
05:45:27PM BUT WE ARE TALKING OF BIG CHAINS LIKE -- THERE WAS A LOT --
05:45:32PM I WON'T GIVE ANY NAMES.
05:45:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WIPE OUT THE LITTLE GUY WHO CAN'T AFFORD
05:45:38PM IT.
05:45:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE THING TO PROTECT LOCAL RESTAURANTS.
05:45:46PM IN YBOR CITY HARD TO FIND CUBAN TOAST AND COFFEE BEFORE 9
05:45:51PM A.M. NOW THAT TROPICANA.
05:45:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO 9 A.M.S.
05:45:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: POSSIBLE TO ASK -- BECAUSE I THINK
05:45:59PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS A VERY GOOD POINT.
05:46:01PM IT IS ALSO VERY -- IT IS VERY TECHNICAL AND VERY LEGAL, AS
05:46:05PM YOU SAY WHAT YOU CAN DO RATHER THAN HAVE A PRELIMINARY
05:46:13PM REPORT.
05:46:13PM OBVIOUSLY --
05:46:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION OR
05:46:17PM PRESENTATION.
05:46:17PM NOT EVEN AN ORDINANCE.
05:46:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH A
05:46:21PM SECOND.
05:46:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:46:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST HAS TO DEAL WITH CLOSING SOME OF THE
05:46:25PM LOOPHOLES.
05:46:26PM I WILL JUST READ IT.
05:46:28PM MOTION TO ASK LEGAL STAFF TO PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON
05:46:32PM JUNE 6 THAT WILL REQUIRE CITY STAFF TO DISCLOSE TO COUNCIL
05:46:36PM OTHER CONTRACTOR PRICE -- CONTRACTOR PRICES THAT -- THAT
05:46:47PM WERE USED IN THE SELECTION PROCESS INTO PIGGYBACKING
05:46:55PM CONTRACTS.
05:46:55PM THERE ARE SOME CONTRACTS THAT THE STATE LAW SAYS IF YOU HAVE
05:46:58PM A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER STATE AGENCY OR LOCAL
05:47:01PM AGENCY, YOU CAN PIGGYBACK ON THAT AGREEMENT.
05:47:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DO IT TO THEM.
05:47:05PM THEY DO IT TO US.
05:47:07PM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE
05:47:10PM PIGGYBACK ON THEM AND THEY PIGGYBACK ON US FOR PRICING.
05:47:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE IDEA HERE IS IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM TO
05:47:17PM GET ADDITIONAL BIDS OR LOOK AT ADDITIONAL.
05:47:19PM LET'S SAY THREE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT ARE ALREADY TRYING TO
05:47:23PM PIGGYBACK, THE POINT IS TO SHOW US THAT THEY HAVE LOOKED AT
05:47:26PM -- LOOKED AT OTHER BIDS.
05:47:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: USUALLY NOT ENGINEERING FIRMS.
05:47:31PM AUTOMOBILES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
05:47:34PM AMBULANCES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
05:47:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT THE --
05:47:41PM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AT LEAST WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE
05:47:44PM OF LOOKING AT -- BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THERE IS -- THERE ARE
05:47:50PM VEHICLES THAT WERE ON THE -- ON THE AGENDA TODAY WENT
05:47:53PM THROUGH SOME OTHER SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BUT -- IS THERE
05:47:57PM ANOTHER PIGGYBACK TO GET THE SAME VEHICLES AT A BETTER PRICE
05:48:01PM THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WENT THROUGH AND EXERCISE.
05:48:03PM THAT WAS THE IDEA.
05:48:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:48:08PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:48:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:48:11PM DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT?
05:48:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUNE 6.
05:48:15PM THE LAST ONE, THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH ALL
05:48:19PM THE CONSULTANTS.
05:48:20PM TO CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
05:48:23PM IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE LAST YEAR, IT HAVEN'T HAPPENED THAT
05:48:27PM MUCH BUT JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN,
05:48:31PM MOTION TO ASK LEGAL STAFF TO PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON
05:48:34PM JUNE 6 TO REQUIRE CONSULTANTS AND SERVICE PROVIDERS CANNOT
05:48:39PM BE ENGAGED ON WORK ORDERS THAT TOTAL -- MULTIPLE WORK ORDERS
05:48:43PM THAT TOTAL MORE THAN $100,000 IN A CALENDAR YEAR WITHOUT
05:48:47PM COUNCIL APPROVAL.
05:48:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT.
05:48:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND A
05:48:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:48:53PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
05:48:56PM NO, SIR?
05:48:57PM IS THAT AN AYE.
05:48:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST LISTENING TO IT.
05:49:00PM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW -- YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THE
05:49:03PM CHART IS SET UP.
05:49:04PM I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
05:49:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IT MEANS -- WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT
05:49:09PM IF SOMEBODY TRIED TO STACK MULTIPLE WORK ORDERS -- IF IT
05:49:13PM ADDS UP TO MORE THAN 100,000, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK
05:49:17PM FOR APPROVAL.
05:49:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT CIRCUMVENTED.
05:49:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT THE PRICING -- IF ALL OF US ARE
05:49:25PM COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER AND YOU HAVE THE BEST PRICE,
05:49:29PM WILL THAT PROHIBIT YOU FROM GETTING ANOTHER CONTRACT?
05:49:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T PROHIBIT BUT DISCLOSE IT PUBLICLY SO
05:49:38PM YOU CAN SEE --
05:49:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ALREADY HAVE ON THE RECORD THAT YOU
05:49:41PM BID ON THAT PRICE AND ANOTHER CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER.
05:49:43PM THOSE ARE THERE.
05:49:44PM THEY ARE JUST NOT GOING TO DO ONE PERSON AND NOT GET THE
05:49:47PM OTHERS.
05:49:47PM ALL OF THAT IS DONE BY BIDS.
05:49:50PM THOSE BIDS ARE THERE PUBLIC RECORD.
05:49:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT HAPPENS IS THE -- THE SERVICE PROVIDERS
05:49:55PM PREQUALIFY.
05:49:55PM AND THEY HAVE AN HOURLY RATE, USUALLY TIME AND MATERIALS.
05:50:00PM AND THE --
05:50:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:50:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE DEPARTMENT WILL GO --
05:50:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL GO WITH IT, BUT WITH THE RECORD,
05:50:07PM THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
05:50:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT HAS ALREADY PASSED.
05:50:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
05:50:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
05:50:14PM ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
05:50:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE CHAIR PRO TEM RECOMMENDS CHAIRMAN
05:50:24PM MANISCALCO.
05:50:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COMMENDATION FOR SANDY SANCHEZ FOR HER
05:50:29PM CONTRIBUTION AT ARMORY GARDENS.
05:50:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OFFSITE?
05:50:35PM DID WE GIVE ONE FOR HER?
05:50:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NAMED A DOG PARK AFTER HER.
05:50:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THE CEREMONY OF THE DOG PARK.
05:50:42PM WILL GIVE IT OUT THEN.
05:50:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHATEVER YOU LIKE.
05:50:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS GOOD ADVICE.
05:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
05:50:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:50:54PM OPPOSED.
05:50:55PM AYES HAVE IT.
05:50:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:50:57PM AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO WOMEN HISTORY MONTH.
05:51:02PM COLORECTAL CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND SOME SPECIAL PEOPLE IN
05:51:07PM MY LIFE HAVE BEEN AFFECT AND SURVIVED.
05:51:09PM I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
05:51:11PM THAT'S IT.
05:51:11PM NOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:51:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU BACK THE GAVEL, SIR.
05:51:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A MOTION TO
05:51:18PM RECEIVE AND FILE AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:51:21PM FAVOR.
05:51:23PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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