TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 28, 2024, 9:00 A.M.
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9:03:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:03:02AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:03:03AM ORDER.
9:03:04AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR A
9:03:07AM MOMENT OF SILENCE, CORRECT?
9:03:08AM PLEASE STAND, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE WITH
9:03:12AM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:03:17AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:03:24AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:03:37AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:03:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:03:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:03:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:03:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:03:52AM >> VIERA?
9:03:52AM MIRANDA?
9:03:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:03:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:03:55AM >>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:03:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:03:57AM BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY BUSINESS AND THE AGENDA, I'D LIKE TO
9:04:02AM INTRODUCE ANGELA KRAL WHO IS HERE WITH STAFF AND STUDENTS
9:04:07AM FROM THE SOUTH TAMPA MICROSCHOOL.
9:04:09AM THE STUDENTS, AS YOU SEE THEM COMING IN ARE AGES 5 TO 11.
9:04:13AM IT IS THE MAYOR'S CIVIC EXPERIENCE DAY.
9:04:15AM AND THEY ARE LEARNING ABOUT THE LOCAL, STATE, AND NATIONAL
9:04:18AM GOVERNMENT.
9:04:18AM MS. KRAL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.
9:04:22AM >> HI.
9:04:23AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US TODAY.
9:04:25AM WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE KIDS
9:04:28AM TO HAVE A WAY TO LEARN THIS IN A VERY HANDS-ON WAY, SEEING
9:04:33AM THE REAL EXPERIENCE.
9:04:34AM THANK YOU.
9:04:34AM WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVING US HERE TODAY.
9:04:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:37AM A SPECIAL SHOUT-OUT TO VERONICA MARRONE, IF SHE'S HERE.
9:04:47AM HER MOM IS DOSSIE.
9:04:47AM SHE IS THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:04:50AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
9:04:52AM WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING DOWN.
9:04:55AM THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS MORE.
9:04:56AM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO SAY ANYTHING?
9:04:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, GIRLS AND BOYS.
9:05:01AM GOOD MORNING, BOYS AND GIRLS.
9:05:08AM I SAY GOOD MORNING.
9:05:09AM WELCOME TO CITY HALL.
9:05:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME.
9:05:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: WELCOME, EVERYBODY.
9:05:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
9:05:20AM YES, MA'AM.
9:05:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOTH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I -- SHE IS A
9:05:30AM CURRENT TEACHER.
9:05:31AM I'M A FORMER TEACHER.
9:05:32AM IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE TODAY LEARNING
9:05:34AM ABOUT GOVERNMENT FROM THE EARLIEST AGE ON AND HOPEFULLY WE
9:05:38AM CAN HAVE YOU HERE MORE OFTEN.
9:05:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:05:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:43AM THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
9:05:45AM >> THANK YOU.
9:05:52AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:06:00AM >> HI.
9:06:08AM >> HI.
9:06:10AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:06:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL WAIT A MOMENT AS THEY EXIT.
9:06:31AM IN THE MEANTIME, CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES
9:06:37AM FROM MARCH 7, 2024 AND MARCH 21st, 2024?
9:06:40AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:06:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:06:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:06:43AM AYE.
9:06:44AM WE'LL WAIT A MINUTE BEFORE WE GO INTO HOUSEKEEPING.
9:06:47AM WE HAVE A FEW AGENDA ITEMS.
9:06:49AM ALL RIGHTY.
9:07:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:07:49AM AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE AGENDA.
9:07:51AM JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
9:07:53AM MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT DUE TO A CONFLICT
9:07:56AM HE WILL NOT BE ARRIVING TO THE MEETING UNTIL 1 P.M. TODAY
9:07:59AM AND REQUESTING ANY PRESSING ITEMS REQUIRING HIS VOTE BE HELD
9:08:03AM UNTIL THAT TIME.
9:08:04AM I WANT TO PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD.
9:08:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY PRESSING
9:08:08AM ITEMS?
9:08:09AM DO WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE AGENDA?
9:08:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD BE -- COULD
9:08:13AM BE A TIE VOTE, A VOTE.
9:08:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM BIG ISSUES ON THE
9:08:19AM AGENDA TODAY.
9:08:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GET TO LIKE LUNCH AND EVERYTHING
9:08:22AM AND THE REST OF IT.
9:08:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT CLARIFICATION.
9:08:28AM WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 3-3 VOTE, CORRECT?
9:08:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD ON.
9:08:34AM I'LL GET TO IT.
9:08:35AM IT WILL COME UP IN JUST A MINUTE.
9:08:37AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA REMOVING ITEM
9:08:40AM NUMBER 1 FROM THE AGENDA AND PLACING IT ON THE APRIL 11
9:08:44AM EVENING MEETING.
9:08:45AM IS THAT A MOTION?
9:08:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
9:08:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:08:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:08:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:52AM AYE.
9:08:53AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA REQUESTING
9:08:55AM ITEM NUMBER 3 TO BE CONTINUED TO THE APRIL 4th REGULAR
9:08:59AM SESSION.
9:08:59AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
9:09:01AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:02AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:09:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:04AM AYE.
9:09:05AM ALL RIGHT.
9:09:05AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. MORRIS MASSEY REQUESTING ITEM 58 TO
9:09:15AM BE CONTINUED TO APRIL 18.
9:09:17AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
9:09:18AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:20AM SECOND FROM?
9:09:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:09:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:23AM AYE.
9:09:24AM AND A REQUEST FROM MR. ALIS DRUMGO REQUESTING --
9:09:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 58 AND 59 GO TOGETHER.
9:09:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MEMO FROM ALIS DRUMGO REQUESTING ITEM 59
9:09:37AM -- YEAH, I HAVE IT HERE.
9:09:39AM HERE WE GO.
9:09:41AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM MR. ALIS DRUMGO REQUESTING ITEM
9:09:47AM 59 BE CONTINUED TO APRIL 18.
9:09:49AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:09:52AM HENDERSON.
9:09:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:52AM AYE.
9:09:52AM A MEMO RECEIVED FROM NICOLE TRAVIS REQUESTING ITEM 62 BE
9:09:55AM HEARD UNDER STAFF REPORTS AFTER ITEM 91.
9:09:59AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A -- FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:10:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:05AM AYE.
9:10:06AM THEN WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM MR. MARK BENTLEY
9:10:11AM REQUESTING ITEM NUMBER 81 BE WITHDRAWN.
9:10:15AM BUT IT SAYS WE CAN'T ACT ON IT UNTIL AFTER 9:30 A.M.,
9:10:20AM CORRECT, BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL GET TO IT
9:10:23AM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:10:24AM BE ON NOTICE THAT ITEM NUMBER 81 WE WILL GO TO MAKE A MOTION
9:10:28AM TO WITHDRAW.
9:10:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: WASN'T THERE A MEMO ON 63 ALSO?
9:10:33AM THE JACKSON HOUSE ONE.
9:10:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S JUST A RESOLUTION.
9:10:44AM DOESN'T SAY MEMO OR ANYTHING.
9:10:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT IT WAS CONTINUED.
9:10:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE'LL TAKE IT UP.
9:10:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT THAT PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY
9:10:55AM STAFF OR NOT?
9:11:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT THERE WAS A MEMO TO CONTINUE.
9:11:02AM ALIS WILL LET US KNOW IF IT IS.
9:11:04AM THANK YOU.
9:11:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:11:05AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS, I'LL GO ONE BY ONE.
9:11:10AM WE WILL HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
9:11:11AM THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE WILL BE MS. NICOLE TRAVIS.
9:11:16AM ITEM NUMBER 91, YES, WE'LL HAVE STAFF HERE FOR THAT.
9:11:19AM ITEM NUMBER 92, YES, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT AND OBVIOUSLY FOR
9:11:23AM WHAT IT IS.
9:11:24AM YES ON ITEM NUMBER 93.
9:11:29AM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:30AM WOULD ANYONE LIKE STAFF?
9:11:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:11:33AM MR. MULKEY JUST HAS A FEW THINGS HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.
9:11:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:11:36AM STAFF FOR 93.
9:11:37AM STAFF FOR 94?
9:11:38AM YES.
9:11:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:11:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF FOR ITEM 95.
9:11:46AM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:47AM ALL RIGHT.
9:11:52AM NO STAFF FOR 95.
9:11:54AM ITEM NUMBER 96, THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:12:00AM I'M SATISFIED WITH IT.
9:12:01AM I MADE THE MOTION FOR IT.
9:12:03AM ANYBODY WISH TO HAVE STAFF?
9:12:04AM NO STAFF FOR 96.
9:12:06AM YES, SIR.
9:12:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, ON 97, I WAS OUT YESTERDAY, BUT
9:12:12AM BEFORE THAT, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING NEW ON THIS.
9:12:14AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE IT TO -- NUMBER 97 TO MAY 16.
9:12:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 97 UNTIL
9:12:22AM MAY 6 BY --
9:12:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: 16.
9:12:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 16th.
9:12:26AM SORRY.
9:12:26AM ITEM 97 CONTINUED TO MAY 16.
9:12:29AM MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
9:12:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THE MEMORANDUMS KIND OF STAND FOR
9:12:37AM THEMSELVES.
9:12:37AM I DON'T REALLY THINK THERE ARE ANY MORE TO DO ON THIS.
9:12:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT WE ASKED FOR
9:12:49AM -- THIS GETS INTO A LONGER CONVERSATION.
9:12:51AM IF WE ASK THE REAL ESTATE AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DO
9:12:54AM SOMETHING, THEY ALWAYS SAY, NO, THEY CAN'T DO IT.
9:12:56AM I'M CONTINUING IT BECAUSE THEY KEEP SAYING NO.
9:12:59AM EVERY OTHER EXPERT IN TOWN SAYS IT IS POSSIBLE.
9:13:02AM I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT BACK ON THE AGENDA JUST SO WE CAN
9:13:04AM KEEP THE FIRE.
9:13:06AM BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WANTS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT
9:13:09AM SOMEWHERE.
9:13:09AM WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN PART IS WAITING FOR US TO REDO THE
9:13:11AM WHOLE CODE, BUT THE COMMUNITY WANTS SOLUTIONS BEFORE WE DO
9:13:14AM THE CODE.
9:13:14AM THE CODE MAY TAKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND WE NEED SOLUTIONS
9:13:17AM BEFORE THEN.
9:13:18AM I REALIZE EVERYBODY IS BUSY BUT WE NEED TO CREATE AN
9:13:21AM ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
9:13:23AM LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY.
9:13:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DISAGREE IN THEORY BECAUSE ENTERTAINMENT
9:13:27AM DISTRICTS CAN'T BE CREATED.
9:13:30AM THEY ARE JUST VERY ORGANIC, SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY,
9:13:34AM HERE, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ENTERTAINED AND
9:13:37AM EXPECT IT TO WORK.
9:13:39AM IN THEORY I DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
9:13:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MAY 16.
9:13:43AM IF ANYTHING COMES UP, IT CAN ALWAYS BE TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA.
9:13:46AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR 97.
9:13:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:50AM AYE.
9:13:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:13:52AM >> OPPOSED.
9:13:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK AND HENDERSON WERE A NO.
9:13:59AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND HENDERSON VOTING
9:14:01AM NO.
9:14:02AM AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
9:14:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 98, PENDING CEMETERY ISSUES.
9:14:09AM YES FROM ME.
9:14:11AM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:14:11AM WE'LL KEEP 98 -- WE'LL HAVE STAFF IN PERSON.
9:14:16AM ITEM NUMBER 99, YES.
9:14:19AM ITEM NUMBER 100.
9:14:22AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. MARTIN SHELBY.
9:14:25AM IS THAT SUFFICIENT?
9:14:26AM WELL, YOU'RE HERE.
9:14:29AM WE CAN TAKE IT UP THEN.
9:14:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A MOTION I WANT TO MAKE THEN.
9:14:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL LEAVE 100 THERE.
9:14:36AM MR. SHELBY, YOU WILL BE HERE.
9:14:38AM FOR ITEM 101, IT'S DISCUSSING THE TENTATIVE CALENDAR.
9:14:44AM THERE WAS A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:14:45AM HE'S NOT HERE, SO LET'S JUST SAY YES ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL
9:14:49AM FIGURE IT OUT.
9:14:50AM ALL RIGHT.
9:14:50AM WE WENT THROUGH THAT.
9:14:52AM WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00.
9:14:55AM WE HAVE A BUSY AGENDA.
9:14:56AM THE TIMER WILL BE ON, AND THAT'S IT.
9:15:00AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
9:15:02AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:04AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:05AM AYE.
9:15:06AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WHO WOULD BE
9:15:10AM PRESENTING A COMMENDATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:15:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE CHAIR OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND
9:15:28AM HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, TODAY IS THE DAY
9:15:31AM THAT SOME OF US LOOK FORWARD TO AND SOME OF US DON'T.
9:15:36AM WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE TO MY LEFT WHO HAS BEEN SERVING THE
9:15:40AM CITY OF TAMPA FOR 35 YEARS.
9:15:42AM LET ME SAY VERY HONORABLY.
9:15:45AM MR. JOEL SOUSA HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MANY
9:15:49AM DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING THE MAYORS LIKE SANDY
9:15:51AM FREEDMAN, DICK GRECO, PAM IORIO, BOB BUCKHORN AND JANE
9:16:00AM CASTOR AND THAT WAS HARD ENOUGH.
9:16:01AM WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS HE WORKED IN THE DIVISION THAT FOR
9:16:05AM DECADES HAS LED THE CITY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
9:16:07AM 35 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY.
9:16:11AM HE'S HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF SO MANY CITIZENS
9:16:14AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AS AN URBAN PLANNER.
9:16:17AM IF YOU THINK CITY COUNCIL IS TOUGH, TRY BEING AN URBAN
9:16:22AM PLANNER.
9:16:24AM WHERE EVERYONE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU ON AN APPLICATION
9:16:29AM ALWAYS THINKS THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST AND THEY SHOULD
9:16:32AM BECAUSE THEY ARE REPRESENTING SOMEONE.
9:16:34AM THIS GENTLEMAN AND HIS STAFF ARE THE ONES THAT MAKE THE
9:16:38AM DECISION EITHER LOOKS GOOD OR DOESN'T LOOK TOO GOOD.
9:16:41AM THEN IT'S UP TO US TO DETERMINE, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AT
9:16:45AM THAT TIME IN HISTORY, WHAT SHOULD BE AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BE.
9:16:47AM BUT HE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT ALWAYS COMES HERE AND YOU DON'T
9:16:53AM EVER SEE HIM GET UPSET.
9:16:55AM HE MAKES HIS PRESENTATION, AND HE TAKES HIS LUMPS AND
9:16:59AM LEAVES.
9:16:59AM WHEN YOU WORK FOR -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS
9:17:03AM -- 43, I THINK IT WAS.
9:17:05AM >> AT LEAST.
9:17:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN YOUR CAREER.
9:17:07AM THAT'S 43 DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES, INCLUDING MYSELF.
9:17:13AM YOU HAVE WORKED WITH 26 SUPERVISORS, AND YOU HAVE TAUGHT
9:17:20AM MANY THE TRADE OF BEING STRAIGHTFORWARD, NOT LOSING YOUR
9:17:25AM COOL, AND IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST
9:17:28AM DIFFICULT THINGS WE HAVE.
9:17:29AM YOU SPEAK TO PEOPLE EYE TO EYE.
9:17:31AM YOU DON'T GET UPSET.
9:17:32AM YOU JUST TELL THEM WHAT YOUR PLAN IS AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION
9:17:36AM TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND FROM THERE IT GOES.
9:17:39AM WE'RE SORRY TO SEE YOU LEAVE AFTER 35 YEARS.
9:17:42AM YOU'VE TAKEN WITH YOU SO MUCH INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND SO
9:17:47AM MUCH THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN 35 YEARS, THE CITY
9:17:51AM CERTAINLY WHAT IT IS TODAY NOT.
9:17:54AM THERE WAS NOT TOO MANY TALL BUILDINGS.
9:17:58AM IT WAS MORE THAN LIKELY LESS THAN ABOUT 60, 80, 100,000
9:18:03AM PEOPLE LESS.
9:18:04AM THE ROADS YOU COULD DRIVE AND NEVER HIT A SPEED BUMP.
9:18:08AM YOU COULD DRIVE AND DRIVE FROM A TO B AND NOT FIND MUCH
9:18:18AM TRAFFIC.
9:18:18AM NO CHANNELSIDE NO HARBOUR ISLAND JUST ABOUT.
9:18:21AM THERE WASN'T TOO MANY THINGS THAT YOU HAVE NOW.
9:18:24AM AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOURSELF IS ONE THAT MAKES SOME OF THOSE
9:18:28AM DECISIONS WHAT THEY ARE TODAY.
9:18:29AM WITH RECOMMENDATION WHOEVER WAS IN OFFICE AND THE MAYOR WAS.
9:18:36AM MYSELF, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THIS COUNCIL
9:18:39AM FOR THE WAY YOU STAND IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM AND TAKE YOUR
9:18:43AM LUMPS WHETHER THEY ARE FOR, OR, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHETHER
9:18:46AM THEY ARE NOT FOR.
9:18:48AM YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT IN THE MOST UPGRADED MANNERISM OF
9:18:52AM ANY HUMAN BEING I'VE EVER SEEN.
9:18:54AM FOR THAT, I WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU FOR BEING WHO YOU
9:18:58AM ARE.
9:18:58AM A STAND-UP INDIVIDUAL WHO SAYS IT LIKE IT IS AND WALKS OUT.
9:19:02AM NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, YOU'RE NOT UPSET ABOUT ONE WAY OR
9:19:04AM THE OTHER.
9:19:04AM THAT TAKES A SPECIAL KIND OF HUMAN BEING.
9:19:06AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:19:08AM >> THANK YOU.
9:19:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COMMENDATION, AND I'LL READ IT REAL
9:19:18AM QUICK.
9:19:19AM THE 35 YEARS DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR POSITIVE
9:19:23AM IMPACT IN THE LIVES OF SO MANY CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF
9:19:26AM TAMPA.
9:19:26AM URBAN PLANNER OVER THE DECADES, THREE DECADES YOU HAVE DONE
9:19:29AM THE JOB THOROUGHLY THROUGH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
9:19:33AM YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND PROFESSIONALISM WILL BE MISSED.
9:19:35AM AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHO YOU ARE AND THE WAY YOU
9:19:38AM HANDLED YOURSELF.
9:19:39AM >> GOD BLESS YOU, CHARLIE.
9:19:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
9:19:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:45AM >> I'D LIKE TO READ A FEW SENTENCES I WROTE DOWN FOR THIS.
9:19:49AM THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THIS COMMENDATIONS THIS MORNING.
9:19:53AM AS MY CURRENT ZONING FAMILY AND STAFF WOULD AGREE AND
9:20:00AM ATTEST, I'M GENERALLY A MEEK AND MILD, SOFT-SPOKEN, HUMBLE
9:20:05AM INDIVIDUAL AND WARM PERSONALITY IN THE EARLY MORNINGS OF THE
9:20:08AM OFFICE.
9:20:08AM A REAL RENAISSANCE PLANNER.
9:20:11AM I HAVE DONE SO SIMILARLY IN ALMOST ALL OF THE HOUSING AND
9:20:15AM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DIVISIONS THAT I'VE WORKED IN,
9:20:17AM BECAUSE I'VE WORKED IN EVERY ONE, EXCEPT ONE, OVER MY
9:20:21AM CAREER.
9:20:21AM OVER MY 35-YEAR HISTORY, I'VE HAD, AGAIN, 26 SUPERVISORS AND
9:20:26AM A PLETHORA OF SUBSUPERVISORS, MANY THAT I HAD TO TRAIN AND
9:20:33AM WHAT I TRULY FEEL IS A PURPLE HEART WARRANTED AND DEED THAT
9:20:37AM I DID.
9:20:38AM I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE AND PLACES AND EVENTS THAT I WAS ABLE
9:20:41AM TO PARTICIPATE IN AND WITNESS AS A MID-LEVEL PROFESSIONAL
9:20:44AM PLANNER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WERE UNMATCHED TO ANY OTHER
9:20:48AM SIMILAR PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENT, AND I SURVIVED IT.
9:20:52AM IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I NOW STEP DOWN IN A WAY FROM
9:20:56AM MY CRAFT AND GIVE ONE OF MY YOUNG TALENTED STAFF MEMBERS AN
9:21:02AM OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME THING.
9:21:04AM AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ME TODAY.
9:21:08AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
9:21:15AM WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK FOR THE MANY, MANY YEARS
9:21:17AM OF SERVICE AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:19AM ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO SAY ANYTHING?
9:21:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:21:23AM WHEN YOU GOT ON THE ELEVATOR THIS MORNING, YOU SAID TODAY
9:21:26AM WAS YOUR LAST DAY.
9:21:28AM I REMEMBER, IT MADE ME THINK, THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, THE
9:21:31AM LAST DAY OF SCHOOL ARE ALWAYS VERY EXCITING.
9:21:33AM I GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU VOLUNTEERED AND TOLD ME THAT
9:21:36AM INFORMATION.
9:21:36AM I KNOW THAT YOU ARE VERY HAPPY TODAY.
9:21:38AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:38AM I WISH YOU WELL.
9:21:40AM WHEN YOU WAKE UP ON MONDAY MORNING, YOU GET TO DO AS YOU
9:21:43AM PLEASE.
9:21:44AM >> I SURE HOPE SO.
9:21:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:21:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:48AM >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
9:21:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:21:53AM THANK YOU.
9:21:53AM WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT VIRTUALLY.
9:21:56AM BUT BEFORE, MR. SHELBY.
9:21:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY
9:22:00AM COUNCIL.
9:22:01AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:22:02AM GOOD MORNING.
9:22:04AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:22:07AM NOW AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS
9:22:09AM ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES
9:22:12AM OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
9:22:14AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:22:18AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:22:19AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED AND
9:22:23AM REQUESTED THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR,
9:22:26AM INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR
9:22:29AM CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR
9:22:32AM GRAPHICS.
9:22:33AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL
9:22:36AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR FELLOW
9:22:40AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:22:42AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:22:45AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:22:48AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:22:51AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
9:22:54AM RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
9:22:58AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
9:23:01AM MEETING.
9:23:01AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING,
9:23:05AM WHICH IS NOTED ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY
9:23:07AM WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD LATER IN THE AGENDA.
9:23:11AM NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN TODAY DURING STAFF REPORTS.
9:23:14AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS AND ITEMS ON THE
9:23:18AM CONSENT AGENDA IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:23:21AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU SHOULD REFRAIN FROM
9:23:25AM ENGAGING THE SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC
9:23:28AM SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE
9:23:32AM QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
9:23:35AM DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:23:37AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:23:40AM THANK YOU.
9:23:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
9:23:42AM AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
9:23:44AM WE'LL TAKE THEM FIRST.
9:23:45AM MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ONLINE.
9:23:48AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:23:49AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
9:23:51AM IS MR. RANDOLPH ON?
9:24:01AM MR. RANDOLPH, SIR?
9:24:08AM IS HE MUTED OR ARE THERE ISSUES ON OUR END?
9:24:19AM WE'LL GO BACK TO HIM.
9:24:20AM WE'LL TAKE TINA WEHMAN NEXT.
9:24:23AM SHE IS NOT ON.
9:24:24AM ADRIENNE RODRIGUEZ.
9:24:26AM SHE'S NOT ON?
9:24:26AM NO.
9:24:27AM IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH STILL THERE.
9:24:29AM IF NOT, WE'LL GO BACK TO HIM AND START PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE
9:24:35AM ROOM.
9:24:38AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:24:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:24:41AM GO AHEAD.
9:24:41AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:24:42AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:24:45AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:24:46AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:24:49AM I FIRST WANT TO START OFF BY GIVING MY PRAYERS TO THOSE IN
9:24:54AM BALTIMORE AS A RESULT OF THE BRIDGE CRASHING DOWN.
9:24:57AM TAMPA UNDERSTANDS THAT BECAUSE WE HAD A BRIDGE THAT FALL
9:25:00AM DOWN YEARS AGO.
9:25:01AM TODAY I WANT TO FOCUS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:25:04AM AGAIN, I'LL BE SPEAKING DURING THE GENERAL COMMENTS AND THEN
9:25:07AM AGAIN DURING ITEM 61.
9:25:11AM PUBLIC SAFETY, IN ADDITION TO HAVING BACKGROUND IN ECONOMIC
9:25:13AM AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, I ALSO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN TERMS
9:25:17AM OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:25:19AM IN BALTIMORE IN THE '90s, I WAS TASKED WITH DEVELOPING A
9:25:23AM PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE.
9:25:26AM VIOLENCE WAS OFF THE CHAIN.
9:25:29AM BACK THEN IN BALTIMORE, WE SAW THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF MURDERS
9:25:34AM AND KILLINGS SINCE THE '60s.
9:25:37AM WHAT I WAS OVER RESULTING IN 10% REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME.
9:25:45AM I'LL BE SENDING YOU INFORMATION ON IT.
9:25:48AM THIS WAS A COMBINATION OF A WEED AND SEED AND HOT SPOT
9:25:54AM INITIATIVE.
9:25:54AM BACK THEN I WAS ASKED TO FIND A WAY TO BRING GANGS TOGETHER.
9:25:59AM I DID THIS BY WAY, AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE
9:26:05AM TOGETHER IN ORDER TO AGAIN REDUCE VIOLENCE IN BALTIMORE
9:26:09AM CITY.
9:26:10AM SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH, I WAS ABLE TO GET GANGS TO COME THAT
9:26:13AM NORMALLY WOULD BE AGAINST EACH OTHER BUT FOR THE FACT THEY
9:26:16AM WANTED TO BE SUPERSTARS.
9:26:18AM THEY AGREED TO BEING PART OF THIS.
9:26:20AM WE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM BEFORE THE POWERS
9:26:24AM THAT BE.
9:26:27AM THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE WITH OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT.
9:26:30AM OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT IS LOOKING AT PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT
9:26:33AM IS KNOWN AS THE WEST TAMPA VIDEO PRODUCTION AND
9:26:36AM ENTERTAINMENT CENTER THAT FOCUSES ON YOUNG PEOPLE AND
9:26:41AM MONETIZING THOSE TALENTS AND REDUCING CRIME AT THE SAME
9:26:45AM TIME.
9:26:45AM THIS, IN FACT, IS A BEST PRACTICE THAT WE LOOKED AT FROM
9:26:50AM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
9:26:52AM I'LL BE SENDING YOU TWO NEWS ARTICLES RELATED TO THAT.
9:26:55AM THE REASON WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE EVERY DAY WE
9:27:00AM PICK UP THE NEWSPAPER OR TURN ON THE TV, WE'RE SEEING THE
9:27:04AM SENSELESS KILLINGS GOING ON OUT THERE.
9:27:07AM WE THINK TAMPA HAS THE MODEL TO REDUCE THAT.
9:27:10AM I END BY SAYING I SEND MY PRAYERS TO BALTIMORE FOR THE
9:27:15AM IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE NATION AND THE CITY AS A
9:27:18AM WHOLE.
9:27:19AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:27:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:27:21AM THAT'S IT FOR REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
9:27:22AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT HERE IN THE
9:27:25AM ROOM.
9:27:25AM YES, SIR, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
9:27:27AM YOU'LL BE THE FIRST SPEAKER.
9:27:30AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:27:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:27:32AM SAY UHURU.
9:27:35AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:27:38AM NAME IS MENTESNOT, MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
9:27:41AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
9:27:45AM REPARATIONS AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS AND
9:27:51AM LIVE REPARATIONS BECAUSE 624 YEARS OF REPARATIONS THAT'S
9:27:56AM OWED TO US.
9:27:57AM AND ANY AFRICAN COMING TO THIS CITY COUNCIL TAKING A BEGGING
9:28:03AM POSTURE, THAT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF THE AFRICAN SPIRIT AT ALL.
9:28:09AM WE HAVE TO DEMAND REPARATIONS.
9:28:13AM WE HAVE TO DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OWED TO US.
9:28:15AM WE HAVE TO DEMAND RESPECT, AND WE HAVE TO GAUGE IT BACK
9:28:21AM WHERE WE HAVE DIGNITY AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE, AS A COLLECTIVE
9:28:25AM OF PEOPLE HAVING THE SAME AMBITIONS TO BE A FREE AND
9:28:29AM SELF-DETERMINING PEOPLE.
9:28:30AM WE CAN'T KEEP BEGGING WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHAT'S RIGHTFULLY
9:28:36AM OURS.
9:28:37AM WE SHOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER THINK THAT WE CAN LIVE, DIE, AND
9:28:44AM NEVER THINK OF REPARATIONS.
9:28:47AM NEVER THINK OF THE FACT THAT OUR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS,
9:28:51AM GREAT-GRANDPARENTS, GREAT, GREAT-GRANDPARENTS DATING BACK
9:28:55AM 624 YEARS WORKED FOR FREE.
9:28:59AM NO, THEY OWE US.
9:29:02AM AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN KIND OF DISRESPECT FOR US.
9:29:06AM IT'S A DISRESPECT -- IT'S A LEARNED DISRESPECT THEY HAVE FOR
9:29:09AM BLACK SKIN, WHEN THEY SEE BLACK SKIN, THEY JUST SEE HATRED.
9:29:13AM THEY STEREOTYPE YOU AND SEE HATRED.
9:29:17AM THEY DON'T SEE YOU STRUGGLING FOR WHAT YOU'RE STRUGGLING
9:29:19AM FOR.
9:29:19AM WE'RE NOT STRUGGLING TO BE FREE AND SELF-DETERMINING PEOPLE.
9:29:22AM WHITE WESTERN CIVILIZATION HAS PLACED A LOW VALUE ON THE
9:29:28AM AFRICAN AND WE SEE IT GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN HAITI.
9:29:32AM A PROUD COUNTRY AS HAITI THAT KICKED OUT NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
9:29:38AM AND WHOLE FRENCH COLONIALISM RULE.
9:29:41AM THEY ARE STILL STRUGGLING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
9:29:43AM PROUD BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN HAITI FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM,
9:29:47AM FIGHTING AGAINST COLONIALISM, FIGHTING AGAINST IMPERIALISM,
9:29:51AM WHAT DO THEY DO?
9:29:52AM WHITE WESTERN CIVILIZATION DO THE SAME THING TO US.
9:29:55AM OH, THEY GANG MEMBERS.
9:29:57AM GANG MEMBERS RUNNING DOWN THE WHOLE CITY.
9:30:01AM IT'S LAUGHABLE.
9:30:02AM IT'S REALLY LAUGHABLE.
9:30:04AM WE HAVE TO BE REAL ABOUT THIS.
9:30:07AM WE HAVE TO GET REALISTIC ABOUT IT.
9:30:10AM AND WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE DON'T EVER WANT ANYBODY TO THINK
9:30:14AM THAT AFRICAN PEOPLE AREN'T A PROUD PEOPLE, THAT AFRICAN
9:30:18AM PEOPLE DON'T REPRESENT ANYTHING, THAT WE REPRESENT SOMETHING
9:30:21AM THAT'S JUST LIKE A SERVANT, A SLAVE, A CHATTEL SLAVE, A
9:30:29AM SHARECROPPER.
9:30:30AM WE DIDN'T COME FROM THAT.
9:30:32AM WE DID NOT COME FROM THAT.
9:30:34AM WE DEMAND THIS CITY DO SOMETHING TO START DEALING WITH THE
9:30:40AM REPARATIONS ISSUE.
9:30:43AM IF IT'S 568 OR OTHER THINGS AND DEALING WITH AFRICAN PEOPLE
9:30:47AM FROM A REALISTIC PERSPECTIVE, NOT JUST EMPTY PROMISES.
9:30:52AM BLACK PEOPLE TIRED OF THAT.
9:30:53AM WE NEED TO START SEEING SOMETHING.
9:30:55AM WE NEED TO START SEEING SOME RESULTS.
9:30:57AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO START SEEING.
9:30:59AM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF AFRICAN
9:31:03AM PEOPLE, REAL AFRICAN PEOPLE, NOT BEGGARS.
9:31:09AM WE'RE DEMANDING SOMETHING FROM THIS CITY THAT'S TANGIBLE,
9:31:12AM SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY CAN SEE.
9:31:14AM NOT PROMISES TO VOTE FOR FOOTBALL TEAMS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS
9:31:16AM AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER THINGS.
9:31:20AM WE WANT SOMETHING WE CAN SEE, LIKE THE SINGER SAY, GIVE THEM
9:31:23AM SOMETHING THEY CAN FEEL.
9:31:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:31:25AM YES, SIR.
9:31:26AM ALL RIGHT.
9:31:27AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:31:29AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:31:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:31:31AM STEVE MICHELINI.
9:31:32AM I'M REALLY COMING TO COUNCIL TO ASK YOU TO ADDRESS A
9:31:36AM DISPARITY IN THE CODE.
9:31:38AM THE CODE HAS CONFLICTS IN IT BETWEEN ALLEY USAGE AND
9:31:43AM TECHNICAL STANDARDS, PARTICULARLY IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
9:31:47AM YOU'RE FORCED TO MAKE A CHOICE AND YOU CAN'T MEET BOTH AT
9:31:52AM THE SAME TIME.
9:31:52AM I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH STAFF.
9:31:54AM THEY ARE AWARE OF IT, AND I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE IN ORDER AT
9:31:59AM THE END OF THE MEETING UNDER NEW BUSINESS FOR ONE OF THE
9:32:02AM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO TRY TO
9:32:05AM ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
9:32:07AM IF YOU CHOOSE ONE TO MEET THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS, CAN'T
9:32:11AM MEET THE OVERLAY STANDARDS.
9:32:12AM IF YOU CHOOSE THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, YOU CAN'T MEET THE
9:32:15AM TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
9:32:16AM IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE APPLICANTS TO HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO
9:32:19AM SEEK WAIVERS ON ONE OR THE OTHER.
9:32:22AM AND THEN THERE IS A FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY WHEN WE COME
9:32:25AM BEFORE YOU.
9:32:26AM THE SECOND ISSUE IS REGARDING THE NOTICE PROVISIONS.
9:32:31AM WE JUST EXPANDED THE NOTICE AREAS TO 300 FEET.
9:32:35AM WE HAVE LARGER SIGNS.
9:32:37AM WE HAVE DUPLICATE -- TWO NOTICES GOING OUT FOR THE
9:32:42AM PETITIONS.
9:32:42AM YET AT THE LAST MINUTE WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR
9:32:45AM THOSE INDICATING THAT THEY DO REPRESENT THEM COME UP AT THE
9:32:48AM LAST MINUTE, NEVER HAVING CALLED THE PETITIONER, NEVER
9:32:51AM HAVING REACHED OUT AND SAID WE HAVE AN ISSUE, WE WANT TO
9:32:54AM DISCUSS IT WITH YOU.
9:32:55AM THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
9:32:56AM THAT'S NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE EXCHANGED AND CHANGED
9:33:00AM ALL THE CODES FOR.
9:33:02AM TOLD, BOTH ON THE APPLICANT AND PETITIONER SIDE AND ON THE
9:33:06AM HOMEOWNER SIDE THAT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN ANYMORE AND YET
9:33:09AM IT HAPPENS.
9:33:10AM CERTAINLY THEY SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO REACH OUT WITH TWO
9:33:13AM NOTICES, LARGER SIGNS AND AN EXPANDED NOTICE AREA TO NOT
9:33:17AM SHOW UP AT THE LAST MINUTE AND SAY THEY ARE REPRESENTING
9:33:21AM SOMEONE WHO HAS ISSUES WITH THE PROBLEMS.
9:33:24AM WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING AS APPLICANTS TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF WE
9:33:28AM CAN, AND THAT LINE OF COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE OPEN AND NOT
9:33:31AM CLOSED.
9:33:32AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
9:33:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:35AM BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN
9:33:37AM THE 9:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:33:39AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:33:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:33:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:33:42AM AYE.
9:33:42AM THERE WAS A REQUEST I MENTIONED EARLIER BUT WE HAD TO WAIT
9:33:46AM UNTIL 9:30, BY THE PETITIONER FOR ITEM NUMBER 81 TO WITHDRAW
9:33:50AM THIS APPLICATION.
9:33:51AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW 81 FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:33:54AM CLENDENIN.
9:33:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:33:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:33:57AM AYE.
9:33:58AM ITEM NUMBER 81 WILL NOT BE HEARD BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN
9:34:01AM WITHDRAWN PER THE REQUEST OF THE ATTORNEY.
9:34:03AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:34:05AM YES, MA'AM.
9:34:07AM >> I'M ANGELA ALDERMAN.
9:34:10AM I AM HERE TODAY ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 98.
9:34:19AM MY NAME IS ANGELA ALDERMAN, THE GREAT NIECE OF FRANCISCO
9:34:25AM MARTINEZ WHO WAS LOST WITHIN COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
9:34:28AM I AM ONCE AGAIN HERE REGARDING SCAN RESULTS.
9:34:30AM THE ITALIAN CLUB SCANNED THE PARKING AREA OF THE ITALIAN
9:34:32AM CLUB CEMETERY WHICH WAS FORMERLY COLLEGE HILL, AND THEY ALSO
9:34:36AM SCANNED THE SURROUNDING ADJACENT AREAS TO THE CEMETERY IN
9:34:40AM FEBRUARY OF 2023.
9:34:41AM I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY ASKING FOR RESOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE
9:34:46AM OF IGNORING THE MANY REQUESTS FOR THE ITALIAN CLUB TO
9:34:49AM RELEASE THE RESULTS.
9:34:51AM ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK, ONCE AGAIN, THE ITALIAN CLUB HAS
9:34:55AM PUSHED BACK THE DATE TO RELEASE THE SCANS, AND THEY WILL NOT
9:34:58AM BE HERE TODAY.
9:34:59AM THEY HAVE POSTPONED IT NOW AGAIN TO MAY 2nd.
9:35:03AM SOME ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN AND MUST BE DONE TO GET
9:35:06AM ANSWERS.
9:35:07AM IT IS BLATANT IN MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT THE SCAN OVER A
9:35:11AM YEAR AGO HAS PRODUCED AREAS OF CONCERN IN THE RESULTS.
9:35:16AM OTHERWISE, I AM CERTAIN I WOULD HAVE BEEN SILENCED OVER A
9:35:18AM YEAR AGO.
9:35:19AM IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
9:35:21AM RELEASE THE FINDINGS TO WHERE 1200 BODIES NOW LAY TO REST.
9:35:25AM IF THEY ARE NOT THERE, PROVIDE DETAILS OF RELOCATION,
9:35:29AM INCLUDING THAT OF MY GREAT UNCLE WHO WAS BURIED IN 1917.
9:35:33AM MAYBE THIS CAN BE DONE AND HEALING CAN BEGIN FOR OUR CITY,
9:35:37AM AND THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ERASED FROM HISTORY.
9:35:39AM THIS MONTH MARKED 107 YEARS ON MARCH 16 THAT MY GREAT UNCLE
9:35:45AM WAS LAID TO REST IN COLLEGE HILL.
9:35:46AM I KNOW THAT IN ADDITION TO COLLEGE HILL BEING ON THE AGENDA
9:35:51AM TODAY, MARTI-COLON CEMETERY HAS BEEN FACED WITH THE SAME
9:35:55AM ISSUES.
9:35:56AM I KNOW THAT THE RABBI HAS PRODUCED SCANS AND POSSIBLY WILL
9:36:01AM HAVE THE SCAN RESULTS TODAY.
9:36:03AM THIS JUST SHOWS HOW QUICK SCAN RESULTS CAN BE PRODUCED.
9:36:09AM I ASK THE CITY, WHY WOULD IT TAKE ONE YEAR TO PRODUCE THE
9:36:13AM SCAN RESULTS?
9:36:13AM THE CONSTANT IGNORING AND STALLING OVER A SPAN OF A YEAR
9:36:17AM SPEAKS VOLUMES TO MY SOUL.
9:36:18AM HELP IS NEEDED FROM THE CITY AS THIS IS BEYOND ACCEPTABLE
9:36:23AM FOR ME BEING A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF SOMEONE LOST WITHIN THE
9:36:26AM NOW ITALIAN CLUB CEMETERY.
9:36:28AM PRIVATE PROPERTY OR NOT, THE ITALIAN CLUB HAS CHOSEN TO
9:36:32AM IGNORE THE MANY REQUESTS FOR THE SCAN RESULTS.
9:36:35AM I WILL NOT FALTER IN MY QUEST FOR THESE ANSWERS, AND IT
9:36:38AM SADDENS ME THAT THE MORAL AND RESPECTFUL THING TO DO IS
9:36:41AM BEING IGNORED AND ALLOWED.
9:36:43AM THESE PRECIOUS SOULS BURIED THERE DESERVE THEIR PEACE AND
9:36:48AM NOT TO BE USED AS A PARKING LOT.
9:36:50AM I AM FIRST OFF ASKING THE CITY TO STEP IN AND ASSIST WHERE
9:36:53AM THEY CAN ON THEIR END TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY THEIR SUPPORT.
9:36:55AM I WOULD ASK THE CITY TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR COLLEGE HILL
9:36:59AM AND BESTOW THE HONOR OF THE LOST SOULS OF COLLEGE HILL BY
9:37:04AM NOT ATTENDING OR SUPPORTING THE ITALIAN CLUB AT THEIR EVENTS
9:37:04AM AND SOCIAL GATHERINGS.
9:37:08AM THESE SOULS DESERVE THE RESPECT GRANTED TO THEM.
9:37:11AM I ASK THIS OF YOU AS THEY ARE NOT MERELY WORDS SPOKEN.
9:37:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:37:19AM >> THANK YOU.
9:37:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:37:20AM YES, SIR.
9:37:22AM NEXT SPEAKER, GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:37:24AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:37:24AM IT'S ALREADY ON.
9:37:31AM JUST WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT DOWN, IT'S ACTIVE.
9:37:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:37:37AM MY NAME IS BOBBY KRADEN.
9:37:40AM I LIVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:37:41AM THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS I DO SUPPORT THE SALARY
9:37:45AM INCREASE FOR YOU, THE WORK THAT YOU DO, IT'S MORE THAN A
9:37:49AM PART-TIME JOB AND I BELIEVE THE SALARY SHOULD BE
9:37:52AM COMMENSURATE WITH THE DUTIES OF THE POSITION THAT YOU ALL
9:37:55AM HOLD.
9:37:56AM BUT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICY TODAY.
9:38:00AM LAST WEEK I CAME UP AND REVIEWED SOME OF MY OWN RESEARCH
9:38:05AM INTO THE WAYS OTHER CITIES HANDLE, VACANT, BOARDED AND
9:38:10AM ABANDONED STRUCTURES.
9:38:11AM I POINTED OUT DEFICIENCIES THAT EXIST IN TAMPA'S CODE AND
9:38:15AM WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT.
9:38:18AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S JUST MY OWN RESEARCH.
9:38:20AM JUST WHAT I LOOKED AT IN CITIES IN FLORIDA.
9:38:23AM THERE IS A WHOLE SUITE OF OTHER POLICIES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
9:38:26AM BE APPROPRIATE FOR TAMPA.
9:38:27AM EVERY CITY IS UNIQUE.
9:38:28AM TAMPA IS A VERY UNIQUE CITY.
9:38:30AM PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT.
9:38:32AM THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO COME HERE.
9:38:34AM THERE IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION TO ADDRESSING THAT
9:38:38AM PROBLEM.
9:38:38AM I'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT
9:38:41AM THIS.
9:38:41AM IN FACT, JUST THIS WEEK, WE HAD OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING.
9:38:53AM BASED ON MY DISCUSSIONS, THERE'S BEEN VARIOUS THEMES THAT
9:39:04AM HAVE ARISEN.
9:39:05AM I WANTED TO GO OVER THOSE TODAY.
9:39:07AM WONDERFUL.
9:39:12AM THREE BIG THEMES THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS.
9:39:17AM I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO EVERY ONE OF THESE BECAUSE OF THE
9:39:20AM AUDIENCE AND YOU CAN READ THEM ON YOUR OWN.
9:39:22AM THEME ONE AND TWO AS PREMISES WHICH WE'RE NOT FULLY NEEDING
9:39:28AM THE PREMISE OF THEME THREE, THEY RESULT IN NEGATIVE OUTCOMES
9:39:34AM AND NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
9:39:36AM I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POINT BECAUSE MY TIME IS RUNNING
9:39:38AM OUT HERE.
9:39:39AM FEBRUARY 22nd, STAFF GAVE A REPORT ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT
9:39:43AM AND THEIR POLICIES.
9:39:45AM THEY SAID THAT THEY LOOK AT OTHER CITIES TO DETERMINE WHAT
9:39:47AM BEST PRACTICES ARE.
9:39:48AM I HOPE THEY ARE DOING THAT FOR THIS ISSUE AND PREPARING TO
9:39:51AM MAKE CHANGES WHERE NECESSARY.
9:39:52AM STAFF ALSO REPORTED THAT SOME CONDEMNED BUILDINGS GET
9:39:58AM EXTENSIONS OF SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS.
9:39:59AM BUILDING IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS HAD AN EXTENSION
9:40:02AM FOR FIVE YEARS.
9:40:03AM DEMOLITION PERMIT WAS ISSUED FIVE YEARS AGO.
9:40:06AM THIS IS INEQUITABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS HAVING TO CONTINUE TO
9:40:11AM EXPEND THE RESOURCES FOR THE BUILDING.
9:40:13AM IT'S INEQUITABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:40:15AM THE LITMUS TEST WAS WE DON'T WANT OUR FAMILIES, WOULD YOU
9:40:18AM PUT YOUR MOM IN A HOUSE THAT'S CONDEMNED?
9:40:21AM WOULD YOU PUT YOUR FAMILY IN A HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO THAT?
9:40:25AM OR YOU WANT YOUR MOM TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THAT FOR FIVE OR
9:40:29AM TEN YEARS.
9:40:29AM THE SAFETY ISSUE, EQUITY ISSUE.
9:40:32AM A LOT MORE TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC.
9:40:33AM I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS MORE OFF-LINE WITH ANYBODY WHO IS
9:40:36AM INTERESTED IN ADVANCING THIS ISSUE.
9:40:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:40:41AM YES, MA'AM.
9:40:44AM GOOD MORNING.
9:40:44AM PLEASE COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
9:40:46AM GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
9:40:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:40:52AM MY NAME IS TOINETTE GAINES.
9:40:58AM I WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 13.
9:41:00AM THIS IS MY VICE PRESIDENT, RHONDA ELLIS, TREASURER MS. ANN
9:41:05AM ELLIS AND THEN ONE OF THE MEMBERS, EUREKA.
9:41:09AM WE ARE HERE TO -- GOOD MORNING.
9:41:13AM MY NAME IS TOINETTE GAINES, PRESIDENT OF THE LEGACY OF FAIR
9:41:17AM OAKS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, A NEWLY ESTABLISHED ASSOCIATION
9:41:21AM APPROACHING OUR FIRST ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY APRIL 6.
9:41:24AM WE UTILIZE FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER TO HOST OUR
9:41:27AM ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.
9:41:29AM IT'S EVIDENT THAT FAIR OAKS AND OUR COMMUNITY IS LONG
9:41:32AM OVERDUE FOR A CHANGE.
9:41:33AM I PONDERED OVER HOW SHOULD I DECIDE AS A LEADER REGARDING
9:41:37AM THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT, THEREFORE AFTER PRAYER AND RESEARCH,
9:41:42AM I SAY MOVE FORWARD.
9:41:43AM AS LONG AS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ARE WELL
9:41:48AM COMMUNICATED ACROSS THE BOARD FROM THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
9:41:53AM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ZONING AND PERMITTING, PARKS AND REC,
9:41:58AM MOBILITY, SKANSKA, CONTRACTORS, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR
9:42:05AM CONTRACTOR SECURITY AND ANY OTHER AFFILIATES ON THE PROJECT
9:42:08AM AND ACCOMMODATIONS ARE GRANTED.
9:42:09AM FOR INSTANCE, A PAPER TRAIL ON HOW EACH DOLLAR IS SPENT
9:42:14AM WITHOUT IT IMPACTING OTHER FINANCES ALLOCATED FOR HOUSING
9:42:18AM REHAB OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO FUND THIS PROJECT.
9:42:22AM NEXT, SINCE THIS IS A PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN
9:42:27AM COMMUNITY, IT IS ONLY FAIR EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES
9:42:31AM ARE EXTENDED TO AFRICAN AMERICAN CONTRACTORS WHO ARE
9:42:34AM LICENSED AND BONDED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THIS PROJECT
9:42:37AM FROM START TO FINISH.
9:42:39AM NO EXCEPTIONS.
9:42:39AM IN CONCLUSION, AS THE LEADER, I HAVE REMAINED OR WE HAVE
9:42:45AM REMAINED QUIET AND OBSERVANT FROM A DISTANCE.
9:42:49AM BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE A STAND.
9:42:52AM WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
9:42:55AM LEGACY OF FAIR OAKS AND MY FAMILY.
9:42:58AM THANK YOU.
9:42:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:43:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:43:00AM YES, SIR.
9:43:03AM GOOD MORNING.
9:43:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:43:07AM I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN A PART OF THE LEGACY.
9:43:10AM I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT REPRESENTATION.
9:43:11AM BUT I WANT TO HIT IT FAIR OAKS PARK FROM A DIFFERENT
9:43:15AM PERSPECTIVE.
9:43:15AM >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
9:43:15AM >> LIEUTENANT COLONEL RICARDO, RETIRED FROM THE UNITED
9:43:21AM STATES ARMY.
9:43:21AM I'M A PRODUCT OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:43:22AM I GREW UP IN NORTH HILLSBOROUGH ESTABLISH WILLIAMS PARK.
9:43:25AM I PLAY LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL AT FAIR OAKS PARK.
9:43:28AM MOST OF YOU MIGHT KNOW COACH BOBBY WISE.
9:43:32AM HE WAS SIGNIFICANT IN THAT AREA.
9:43:34AM AS A PRODUCT OF THAT, I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU TO TELL YOU
9:43:37AM THE DIFFERENCE THAT FAIR OAKS PARK MADE IN MY LIFE.
9:43:39AM MY FATHER ALSO COACHED AS A LITTLE LEAGUE COACH.
9:43:44AM THAT PARK HAS PRODUCED SO MANY SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE HERE IN
9:43:47AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:43:47AM YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS, KARL DAVIS, MAJOR, RETIRED FROM
9:43:53AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
9:43:54AM VINCENT JACKSON WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH ME AS WELL, RETIRED
9:44:01AM AS A CAPTAIN.
9:44:01AM HE PLAYED LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL THERE.
9:44:03AM SAM WASHINGTON, PITTSBURGH STEELERS, HEAD COACH, NORTH
9:44:08AM CAROLINA A AND T.
9:44:09AM THAT PARK HAS BROUGHT SO MANY MEMORIES TO SO MANY OF US.
9:44:12AM I CAN GO ON WITH OTHER MILITARY LEADERS AS WELL AS EDUCATORS
9:44:16AM WHO ARE PRINCIPALS AND VICE PRINCIPALS WHO HAVE MADE A
9:44:21AM SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AT FAIR OAKS PARK.
9:44:23AM THAT'S WHAT FAIR OAKS PARK MEANS.
9:44:25AM I WANT OUR YOUNG KIDS TO TELL THE SAME STORY TO STAND BEFORE
9:44:29AM YOU AND SAY THE DIFFERENCE THAT IT MADE IN OUR LIVES AND IT
9:44:32AM HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN MY LIFE.
9:44:34AM TWO WEEKS AGO, A YOUNG LADY SAW MY MOTHER AT THE GROCERY
9:44:38AM STORE AND SAID I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE WHEN SHE WAS A
9:44:41AM CHEERLEADER, MY MOTHER USED TO SEW THE UNIFORMS FOR THE
9:44:46AM CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TO DO IT.
9:44:49AM COUNCIL, I STAND BEFORE YOU AND I SAY WE NEED FAIR OAKS PARK
9:44:52AM AND THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX BECAUSE IT HAS MADE A
9:44:55AM DIFFERENCE IN MY LIFE AND IT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN SO
9:44:58AM MANY OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT I KNOW IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:45:01AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:45:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:45:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:03AM YES, MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER.
9:45:06AM GOOD MORNING.
9:45:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:45:09AM YVETTE LEWIS, PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:45:14AM BRANCH.
9:45:15AM SO, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I REALLY WASN'T PREPARED TO
9:45:20AM COME TO SPEAK BECAUSE MY HEART IS HEAVY RIGHT ABOUT NOW, BUT
9:45:25AM I WANT TO COME IN THE SPIRIT OF MY MOTHER.
9:45:28AM MY MOTHER IS RESTING IN HEAVEN, AND SHE'S WATCHING ME.
9:45:35AM AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LAID HER TO REST, WE LAID HER
9:45:40AM TO REST.
9:45:42AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE CONTINUE TO
9:45:47AM COME BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE CEMETERIES AND THESE
9:45:50AM COMPANIES THAT WANT TO COME AND BUILD UPON THESE CEMETERIES
9:45:55AM WITHOUT GIVING YOU ALL ACCURATE AND CORRECT INFORMATION.
9:46:00AM WE KEEP FIGHTING FOR OUR LOVED ONES THAT ARE LAID TO REST.
9:46:05AM WE NEED AN ANSWER.
9:46:09AM IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE GET RELIEF AND WE GET JUSTICE
9:46:13AM WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CEMETERIES.
9:46:16AM PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:46:20AM I'M DOING EVERYTHING IN MY MIGHT BECAUSE MY MOTHER SAID YOU
9:46:24AM NEED TO FIGHT FOR THIS.
9:46:26AM YOU SEE, WHEN INDIANS, THEIR BURIAL GROUNDS ARE SACRED.
9:46:35AM INTRUDED AMERICA COMPENSATED THEM.
9:46:37AM THEY REFUSED TO EVEN TOUCH THEM.
9:46:39AM WE DESERVE THAT SAME RESPECT AS WELL.
9:46:43AM SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.
9:46:45AM NOW I COME TO YOU, I'M A PRODUCT OF FAIR OAKS PARK, BORN AND
9:46:52AM RAISED RIGHT THERE.
9:46:53AM MY DEAR MOTHER SENT US TO THE PARK TO GO PLAY.
9:46:57AM SHE TRUSTED US.
9:46:58AM SHE TRUSTED THAT PARK.
9:47:00AM THAT PARK IS OURS.
9:47:04AM IT'S A SHAME BEFORE GOD THAT THIS CITY IS SPENDING ALL OF
9:47:08AM THIS MONEY WITH THIS PARK AND AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE NOT EVEN
9:47:14AM HAVING A PIECE OF IT WHEN IT COMES TO THE DOLLARS.
9:47:20AM THAT PARK IS FOR US.
9:47:22AM WE ASKED YOU ALL, AND YOU COMPLIED -- YOU CAME OUT TO OUR
9:47:27AM MEETINGS, THANK YOU.
9:47:28AM THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR LISTENING AFTER A STRONG FIGHT.
9:47:33AM THAT PARK IS FOR US, AND IT SHOULD BE BUILT BY US.
9:47:38AM A CHILD SHOULD BE ABLE TO RIDE DOWN THE STREET OR GO TO THAT
9:47:43AM PARK AND SAY MY DADDY HELPED BUILD THAT PARK.
9:47:47AM MY MOTHER HELPED LAY THE GROUND PIECE OF THAT PARK.
9:47:51AM THESE LADIES HAD LEGACY ON THEIR SHIRTS.
9:47:55AM WHERE IS OUR LEGACY?
9:47:56AM PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
9:48:01AM IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE STOP TELLING US WHAT
9:48:08AM IS BEST FOR US.
9:48:09AM THESE CONTRACTORS ARE MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF US
9:48:12AM AND WE'RE GETTING NOTHING.
9:48:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:48:15AM >> THANK YOU.
9:48:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:48:15AM YES, MA'AM.
9:48:17AM GOOD MORNING.
9:48:17AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:48:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:48:21AM KELLA McCASKILL.
9:48:22AM I'M HERE TODAY, I NEED YOUR HELP AS WE PROCESS THIS 101-PAGE
9:48:29AM AGENDA.
9:48:30AM BUT I NEED YOUR HELP BECAUSE THERE IS A COMMON PAGE IN THIS
9:48:33AM CITY AS IT RELATES TO MYSTERIOUS ACTIVITIES REGARDING MONEY,
9:48:38AM AND THIS BODY AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE
9:48:41AM FOR OVERSEEING IT, MAKING SURE THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED
9:48:45AM APPROPRIATELY.
9:48:45AM I HAVE A QUESTION LINGERING RELEVANT TO THE AGENDA.
9:48:49AM WHO AUTHORIZED $200,000 TO BE PAID OUT TO THE FORMER AIDE OR
9:48:52AM WHATEVER THEY WERE UNDER COUNCILMAN GUDES' SITUATION.
9:48:56AM LEGAL, ONE OF YOU, WHO TAKE THE CHARGE TO HELP US
9:48:59AM UNDERSTAND, THE PUBLIC.
9:49:00AM WHO AUTHORIZED THAT.
9:49:01AM I WENT TO THE ETHICS COMMITTEE.
9:49:02AM JANE SENT ME THERE.
9:49:04AM THOSE PEOPLE SAID THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN INVESTIGATION IN FOUR
9:49:06AM YEARS.
9:49:07AM THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
9:49:08AM IT WAS LIKE WHODUNIT?
9:49:09AM WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT HAPPENED, HOW IT HAPPENED.
9:49:12AM YOU GUYS DIDN'T AUTHORIZE IT, HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
9:49:14AM WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER OOPS ON HANNA STREET SITUATION AND
9:49:18AM FIND OUT SIX MONTHS LATER, OOPS, IT WAS THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:49:21AM I NEED SOMEBODY TO BE BOLD ENOUGH TO SAY WHAT'S RIGHT FOR
9:49:25AM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT $200,000.
9:49:28AM WHO AUTHORIZED IT?
9:49:29AM BECAUSE IT IS OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT'S BEING FUNNELED
9:49:34AM AROUND LIKE MONOPOLY MONEY.
9:49:36AM NEED ANSWERS TO THAT.
9:49:37AM NUMBER TWO, FAIR OAKS, REPEAT WHAT THEY SAID.
9:49:39AM 30% OF THAT IS WHAT SKANSKA SAID ON THE DAY THEY SAT DOWN
9:49:43AM AND AWARDED THAT CONTRACT.
9:49:44AM THEY WERE CONFIDENT IN THAT.
9:49:45AM ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT,
9:49:48AM IS IT A GOAL?
9:49:50AM THEY COULDN'T IDENTIFY IT.
9:49:52AM THE OFFICER HERE WAS NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
9:49:54AM I BELIEVE THE MAYOR HAS PUT SOME STRONG OPPORTUNITIES IN
9:49:57AM PLACE FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE AND MINORITIES AND SMALL
9:50:00AM BUSINESSES AND ALL OF THAT.
9:50:01AM SHE PUT SOME STRONG WORK IN PLACE.
9:50:06AM I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T RECEIVE THE INFORMATION AND
9:50:08AM SHOW THE RECEIPTS OF EFFORTS PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THESE
9:50:11AM MINORITIES CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS CONTRACT.
9:50:13AM THIRD, I STOOD HERE FIRST, I BELIEVE, DOWNSTAIRS, ASKING FOR
9:50:18AM A RAISE SO THAT WHEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WAS FORCED TO
9:50:21AM LEAVE, IF YOU GOT TO PAY FOR LEGAL FEES, THEN YOU GOT TO PAY
9:50:24AM FOR ALLEGATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
9:50:27AM POLITICAL ACRIMONY IS EVIDENT.
9:50:29AM I KNOW THAT VERY WELL.
9:50:30AM YOU'RE GOING TO PAY LEGAL FEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE
9:50:33AM POTENTIALLY.
9:50:33AM I FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT RAISE IF THEY
9:50:36AM ARE NOT GOING TO DEFEND YOU.
9:50:37AM IN THAT VEIN, SUPPORT AND PAY THE MAN THE MONEY.
9:50:40AM HE PREVAILED.
9:50:41AM PAY THE $200,000 WITH NO AUTHORIZATION, NO LAWSUIT, NO
9:50:44AM NOTHING, AT LEAST PAY THE MAN BACK THE MONEY THAT SHOULD BE
9:50:47AM PAID.
9:50:47AM HE PREVAILED.
9:50:48AM I DON'T THINK THAT WAS EXPECTED.
9:50:50AM HE MADE IT.
9:50:51AM GO AHEAD AND PAY THE MAN THE MONEY.
9:50:52AM IT COULD BE YOU ONE DAY.
9:50:54AM PAY THE MAN.
9:50:55AM THANK YOU.
9:50:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:50:56AM YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
9:50:59AM >> MY NAME IS DANELL SCOTT.
9:51:00AM FIRST OF ALL, NONE OF YOU ALL DESERVE A RAISE.
9:51:06AM NOT ONE OF YOU DESERVE A RAISE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN COMING HERE
9:51:09AM FOR YEARS.
9:51:10AM YOU KNOW WHY YOU DON'T DESERVE A RAISE?
9:51:12AM ONE TIME I CAME HERE, ONE OF YOU ALL OUT OF PLACE WHOLE
9:51:16AM TIME.
9:51:17AM NEXT TIME I CAME HERE, SAME COUNCIL MEMBER.
9:51:19AM I E-MAILED AND Facebook A MESSAGE AND I COME BACK TO
9:51:22AM RESEARCH, HE'S A PART OF THE ALLEGATION THAT I GOT GOING ON.
9:51:25AM HE WAS OVERSEEING THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
9:51:29AM NO NAMES MENTIONED, THOUGH.
9:51:30AM NO NAMES MENTIONED.
9:51:31AM LET'S GET THE DEFINITION OF A PEACE TREATY WITH THESE
9:51:35AM INDIANS.
9:51:36AM A PEACE TREATY IS A BINDING AGREEMENT UPON PEACE WHERE IT
9:51:42AM WILL CAUSE A BREACH IF THE TWO WERE TO BREACH THE PEACE.
9:51:46AM BECAUSE PEACE IS ABSENT AWARD.
9:51:48AM DEFINITION OF PEACE.
9:51:50AM SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS IT -- WHAT IS A LIE?
9:51:54AM WE'LL GIVE IT LIKE THAT.
9:51:56AM WHAT IS A LIE?
9:51:56AM WHAT IS A LIAR?
9:51:57AM WHAT IS A FOOL?
9:51:58AM WHICH ONE DO YOU ALL IDENTIFY AS?
9:52:01AM WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF MAKING AMENDS?
9:52:07AM SAME THING AS REPARATIONS.
9:52:10AM IF THE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN TO
9:52:13AM MAKE REPARATIONS, WHY CAN'T YOU ALL?
9:52:15AM THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC STATE IN THE WORLD CAN'T MAKE A
9:52:20AM PEACE TREATY BUT THE BLACK PEOPLE THEY KNOW, IT AIN'T NO
9:52:22AM SECRET THEY BUILT ON BLACK GRAVES.
9:52:26AM JOE BIDEN HAVE SLAVE AND MR. McCONNELL HAVE SLAVE.
9:52:30AM IT'S IN THE HISTORY BOOKS.
9:52:32AM THE SLAVE OWNERS AND THE SLAVES ARE STILL A PART OF HISTORY.
9:52:37AM THEY ARE STILL THERE.
9:52:38AM THAT'S ANCIENT HISTORY.
9:52:40AM SO WHY SUCH AN ISSUE WITH TRYING TO -- LISTEN, I SPEAK ON
9:52:45AM BEHALF OF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.
9:52:50AM NOT MET IN 2024, HE SHALL INTERVENE.
9:52:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:52:55AM YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
9:52:56AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:52:58AM >> MY NAME IS HASEIN CALDWELL.
9:53:02AM THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE.
9:53:03AM BASICALLY I WAS COMING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW
9:53:06AM EVERYTHING IS GOING, I MEAN SUPPOSED TO GO.
9:53:11AM I'M HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:53:13AM I FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE ALREADY HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
9:53:16AM SAYING?
9:53:16AM A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO COME AND BE SEEN IN ALL THIS TYPE OF
9:53:19AM STUFF, BUT WHAT I WANT TO BRING TO THE TABLE IS BASICALLY WE
9:53:22AM HAVE TO LOOK AT THE YOUTH, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF LIKE PEOPLE
9:53:25AM TALKING ABOUT, THINK SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT A PARK OR
9:53:28AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS GOOD, YOU KNOW.
9:53:31AM SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SOMEBODY GOT MONEY, THIS TYPE OF STUFF
9:53:34AM AND PAY THIS ONE DUDE, BUT WHAT I SAY EVERYBODY SHOULD DO IS
9:53:39AM FOCUS ON THE CHILDREN.
9:53:40AM THE NEXT GENERATION IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THESE CHAIRS
9:53:43AM AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE STANDING HERE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
9:53:45AM BUT WHAT I SEE ALSO, WHAT I WANT TO SAY, LIKE, THIS STUFF
9:53:49AM BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
9:53:51AM THE ONLY WAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE IF PEOPLE START
9:53:58AM GIVING THE GLORY TO GOD.
9:54:00AM DO WHAT YOU SUPPOSED TO DO, NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
9:54:03AM EVERYBODY SAY THIS AND EVERYBODY SAY THAT, BUT EVERYBODY
9:54:05AM TRYING TO TALK FOR WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEM.
9:54:07AM LIKE THE LADY SAID, GIVING THIS MONEY, BUT YOU KNOW THIS
9:54:12AM DUDE.
9:54:12AM THIS MAN GET HIS MONEY, ISSUE OUT THE PEOPLE HE WANT.
9:54:15AM IF YOU DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEXT GENERATION, YOU
9:54:19AM WILL SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.
9:54:21AM TALK ABOUT THE GRAVEYARD.
9:54:24AM DO WITH THE GRAVEYARD, MAKE IT WORK FOR THE CHILDREN IN THE
9:54:27AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:54:28AM GET OUT OF SCHOOL, GIVE THEM A LITTLE CARD WITH MONEY, EVERY
9:54:33AM MONTH, GET A LITTLE MONEY TO BUY CLOTHES, TEACH THEM HOW TO
9:54:36AM TAKE CARE OF STUFF.
9:54:37AM PUT THEM IN PLACES WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE ANYWAY, WHERE
9:54:40AM YOU WANT THEM TO BE.
9:54:41AM IF YOU DON'T, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE SAME THING.
9:54:43AM I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF, A LOT OF VISIONS, WHATEVER YOU WANT
9:54:48AM TO CALL IT, BUT GOD HAS GOTTEN ME IN A PLACE RIGHT NOW WHERE
9:54:52AM I'M SITTING STILL, BUT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
9:54:55AM I WANT TO SAY ALL HE HAVE TO DO IS JUST FOCUS ON THE NEXT
9:55:01AM GENERATION, LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT PEOPLE BE TALKING
9:55:04AM ABOUT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS PASSING
9:55:06AM MONEY AROUND AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE
9:55:09AM BEING LEFT OUT.
9:55:10AM MY NAME IS HASEIN CALDWELL.
9:55:14AM YOU'LL SEE ME MORE.
9:55:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:55:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:55:17AM YES, MA'AM.
9:55:18AM GOOD MORNING.
9:55:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:55:21AM I COME HERE WITH SMILES AND HAPPY.
9:55:26AM I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL --
9:55:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME, MA'AM?
9:55:30AM >> VERLEAN DRAYTON.
9:55:32AM FIRST, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY WE'RE STILL CELEBRATING
9:55:35AM WOMEN HISTORY MONTH.
9:55:36AM WE GOT 31 DAYS, LADY.
9:55:38AM JAMES BROWN SAID IT BEST, THIS IS A MAN WORLD, BUT IT
9:55:42AM WOULDN'T BE NOTHING -- NOTHING WITHOUT A WOMAN.
9:55:46AM ALL RIGHT.
9:55:47AM NOW WE GOT THAT PART OVER WITH.
9:55:50AM WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS PARK.
9:55:53AM I APPRECIATE THE LADIES AND THE GENTLEMEN WITH THE FAIR OAKS
9:55:58AM PARK LEGACY, AND I AM FROM FAIR OAKS PARK AND I'M PART OF
9:56:02AM THE OVER 50 AND FABULOUS.
9:56:05AM I WANT TO THANK THE DIRECTOR TONY M.
9:56:08AM I DON'T WANT TO MESS HIS LAST NAME UP.
9:56:09AM THE AIDE CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND SPOKE TO US YESTERDAY AT
9:56:15AM FAIR OAKS.
9:56:16AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL TODAY FROM ALL OF YOU
9:56:23AM REGARDING FAIR OAKS PARK.
9:56:28AM NOW, THIS MORNING, ABC ACTION NEWS GAVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THIS
9:56:35AM ITEM 92 AND 13.
9:56:37AM AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL FOR THIS TODAY CITY
9:56:41AM COUNCIL.
9:56:42AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING IN 2024.
9:56:45AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE CENTER TO SCHEDULE IN 2025, AND WE'RE
9:56:49AM LOOKING FOR COMPLETION IN 2026.
9:56:51AM IT'S TIME TO PUT THE LEAD ON THE PIPE ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
9:56:58AM DOING THIS FOR A WHILE.
9:56:59AM BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
9:57:02AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
9:57:03AM THANK GWENDOLYN HENDERSON IN DISTRICT 5.
9:57:07AM APPRECIATE YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING.
9:57:09AM I WANT TO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY ELSE BACK HERE DOING WHAT
9:57:11AM THEY NEED TO DO, WHETHER GOOD, BAD, FOR, NEGATIVE, LET'S
9:57:15AM BRING IT ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PARK AND WE'LL
9:57:17AM MAKE A DECISION TODAY TO GET THIS PARK BUILT FOR EAST TAMPA.
9:57:22AM I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS NAME.
9:57:24AM EAST TAMPA REPARATION COMPLETE COMPLEX CENTER.
9:57:27AM WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:57:28AM THAT IS THE BUSINESS NAME.
9:57:29AM REAL DEAL WHEN IT'S ALL OVER, IT'S GOING TO BE -- SAID IT.
9:57:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:37AM ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
9:57:38AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL.
9:57:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:57:41AM PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
9:57:42AM PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES EVEN THOUGH I'M ENJOYING THE
9:57:53AM MUSIC.
9:57:54AM >> I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD BE SERENADED LIKE THIS TODAY.
9:57:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, MA'AM.
9:58:01AM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
9:58:02AM FOUNDER OF THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
9:58:05AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:58:07AM HISTORIC CEMETERIES.
9:58:11AM WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT TAMPA'S HISTORIC CEMETERIES
9:58:14AM THE LAST FEW YEARS.
9:58:15AM OUR NATION HAS EXPERIENCED AN INTEREST IN DISCOVERING AND
9:58:18AM REESTABLISHING LOST, ABANDONED, AND FORGOTTEN CEMETERIES
9:58:22AM WITH THE SPECIFIC EMPHASIS ON HISTORIC BLACK CEMETERIES AND,
9:58:26AM FRANKLY, I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER.
9:58:28AM CEMETERIES PROVIDE A LOOKING GLASS INTO A CITY'S PAST.
9:58:32AM THEY ARE NECESSITIES.
9:58:35AM THEY TELL A STORY.
9:58:36AM THEY EDUCATE.
9:58:38AM YOU SEE YOUR CITY IN A NAME ON A HEADSTONE.
9:58:42AM THEY REPRESENT A TIME AND PEOPLE THAT USED TO BE.
9:58:46AM SIMPLY PUT, THEY ARE OUR HISTORY, AND WITHOUT OUR PAST WE
9:58:51AM HAVE NO FUTURE.
9:58:54AM SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT.
9:58:56AM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
9:58:58AM WE THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH ESTABLISHED ORGANIZATIONS
9:59:02AM DEDICATED TO TAMPA'S HISTORIC CEMETERIES WILL KEEP TAKING
9:59:06AM THESE CHALLENGES ON ONE BY ONE WITH THE HISTORIC CEMETERIES
9:59:08AM AS THEY SURFACE, BUT I WOULD MUCH PREFER MORE PROACTIVE
9:59:12AM APPROACH.
9:59:12AM NOT TO MENTION WE ARE ORGANIZING.
9:59:15AM WE CURRENTLY HAVE A COALITION MADE UP OF THREE ORGANIZATIONS
9:59:20AM THAT ARE CEMETERY BASED, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITH A VESTED
9:59:22AM INTEREST, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
9:59:24AM WE ARE ONLY GOING TO GET BIGGER AND STRONGER.
9:59:27AM SO, PLEASE, LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON FIGURING OUT A PLAN OF
9:59:31AM ACTION AS IT RELATES TO TAMPA'S HISTORIC CEMETERIES AND
9:59:35AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN STOP APPEARING BEFORE YOU BEGGING FOR THOSE
9:59:39AM WITH NO VOICE TO BE HEARD AND RESPECTED.
9:59:43AM LET'S ALSO LOOK TO BE PROACTIVE AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE
9:59:46AM THESE HISTORIC CEMETERIES SELF-SUSTAINABLE THROUGH
9:59:50AM INNOVATIVE AND FORWARD-THINKING IDEAS AND CONCEPTS.
9:59:53AM WE NEED A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
9:59:55AM LET'S MAKE ONE AND COMMIT TO IT.
9:59:57AM FINALLY, I STAND WITH ANGELA ALDERMAN AND FOR COTTAGE HILL.
10:00:03AM I SUPPORT HER REQUESTS AND I DEMAND COUNCIL HOLDS THE
10:00:07AM ITALIAN CLUB ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR AGREEMENT TO SHARE THAT
10:00:10AM GPR STUDY AND TO STOP STALLING.
10:00:13AM THE TRUTH IS WE KNOW THERE ARE BODIES THERE.
10:00:17AM I GET IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD
10:00:21AM BEFORE.
10:00:21AM HONESTLY, I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED.
10:00:26AM FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY JUST WON'T
10:00:29AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:00:31AM WE KNOW THERE ARE BODIES THERE.
10:00:33AM YOU KNOW THERE ARE BODIES THERE.
10:00:35AM THEY KNOW THERE ARE BODIES THERE.
10:00:37AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:00:42AM THANK YOU.
10:00:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:00:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:43AM YES, SIR.
10:00:47AM GOOD MORNING.
10:00:47AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:00:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:00:51AM JAY JOHNSON.
10:00:53AM DOWN HERE FOR FAIR OAKS.
10:00:55AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS.
10:00:58AM EVERYONE VOICE MATTERS.
10:00:59AM EVERYONE HAS OPINION.
10:01:01AM EVERYONE HAS A THOUGHT.
10:01:02AM THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO EVERYONE.
10:01:03AM WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS AGAIN AND A PLACE OF PROGRESS.
10:01:08AM THE ONLY ONES SUFFERING FROM THIS CROSSROAD IS THE KIDS.
10:01:13AM AND WHEN TWO ELEPHANTS FIGHT, THE ONLY THING THAT GET
10:01:17AM DAMAGED IS THE GRASS.
10:01:18AM SO WHEN YOU HAVE SO-CALLED LEADERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS
10:01:22AM PICKING AND ARGUING ABOUT WHAT PROGRESS LOOKS LIKE FOR OUR
10:01:25AM KIDS, THE ONLY ONE SUFFERING IS THE ORDINARY AVERAGE PERSON
10:01:28AM THAT'S DEPENDING UPON LEADERSHIP AND ADVOCATES TO DO THE
10:01:31AM RIGHT THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:01:33AM NOW, IT WASN'T SUCH A BIG OUTCRY IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE
10:01:40AM FAIR OAKS PARK AND ADVOCATED FOR A NEW BUILDING WHEN OTHERS
10:01:44AM WERE TALKING ABOUT REMODELING.
10:01:45AM NOW WE MOVED PAST THAT STAGE OF REMODELING AND THANKS TO JOE
10:01:48AM ROBINSON AND OTHERS CAME DOWN AND POINTED OUT THAT WE NEEDED
10:01:51AM A NEW BUILDING, NOW WE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE ON BOARD,
10:01:55AM AGITATORS INSTEAD OF ADVOCATES FOR THE PARK.
10:01:59AM ONE THING WAS ABOUT BIRD POOP AND ABOUT THIS AND STUFF.
10:02:04AM WE'RE HERE TO REBUILD FAIR OAKS PARK, NOT EAST TAMPA
10:02:08AM RECREATION CENTER.
10:02:09AM FAIR OAKS PARK.
10:02:10AM THAT'S WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE REBUILT AS, FAIR OAKS PARK.
10:02:14AM I STAND HERE AS A KID PLAYED FOOTBALL AT FAIR OAKS PARK AND
10:02:17AM I STAND HERE AS A FATHER THAT HAS KIDS THAT PLAYED FOR THE
10:02:20AM RATTLERS AT FAIR OAKS PARK, WIN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN
10:02:25AM THEIR LEAGUE.
10:02:26AM WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF MOVING FORWARD, FAIR
10:02:28AM OAKS AND HAVING THE THOUGHT AND SIT-DOWN ABOUT OUR KIDS,
10:02:36AM HAVEN'T THEY SUFFERED ENOUGH?
10:02:37AM WHAT IS THE HOLDUP?
10:02:39AM WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER BUILDING FOR SENIORS.
10:02:42AM THAT'S WHAT MISSING IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE LEADERSHIP FROM
10:02:45AM THE ELDERS WHEN WE SEPARATED AND BROKE UP THE HOMES AND BIG
10:02:48AM MAMA PASSED AWAY, THAT'S WHY OUR KIDS ARE WHERE THEY ARE AT.
10:02:51AM WE NEED THAT LEADERSHIP.
10:02:53AM WHY NOT HAVE THEM ALL IN THE SAME BUILDING WHERE THE SAME
10:02:55AM KIDS CAN LEARN FROM THE ELDERS THAT'S THERE.
10:02:57AM THEY HAVE THEIR SPACE.
10:02:58AM THEY HAVE A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY SO KIDS CAN LEARN.
10:03:03AM WHAT KIDS DO, THEY IMITATE ADULTS.
10:03:06AM NOTHING GETS SOLVED IN CHAOS, THAT'S WHY SO MUCH BICKERING
10:03:10AM IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:03:10AM HERE WE ARE AGAIN STAGNATED IN EAST TAMPA WITH PROGRESS.
10:03:13AM THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT'S BEING HURT IS THE KIDS.
10:03:16AM KEEP THAT IN MIND, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE OUT FOR PERSONAL GAINS
10:03:21AM AND REPUTATION.
10:03:22AM OUR KIDS ARE SUFFERING WITHOUT STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITIES
10:03:26AM TO GO AFTER SCHOOL AND BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS IN OUR
10:03:29AM COMMUNITY.
10:03:29AM SO WHEN YOU SIT DOWN TO TAKE THIS VOTE, THINK BIGGER THAN
10:03:34AM YOURSELVES.
10:03:34AM THINK BIGGER THAN THE AGITATORS.
10:03:37AM THINK ABOUT THE MOST PRECIOUS THING, WHY WE ARE ALL HERE AND
10:03:40AM THAT'S THE KIDS.
10:03:41AM THEY NEED A PLACE AND TIRED OF WAITING, WAITING, AND
10:03:44AM WAITING.
10:03:45AM IT'S OVERDUE.
10:03:46AM BUILD FAIR OAKS NOW.
10:03:47AM BUILD IT BACK AS FAIR OAKS, NOT EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL
10:03:50AM CENTER.
10:03:51AM THANK YOU.
10:03:52AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:03:53AM YES, SIR.
10:03:54AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:03:55AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:04:04AM GOOD MORNING.
10:04:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:04:05AM MY NAME IS JACOB BRUYNELL.
10:04:07AM I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR GREATER TAMPA
10:04:10AM REALTORS.
10:04:10AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING ON BEHALF OF OUR 17,000-PLUS MEMBERS
10:04:16AM AS WELL AS HOMEOWNERS CITYWIDE.
10:04:19AM WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN AMENDMENT TO A MUNICODE SECTION,
10:04:26AM 27-283.6, METHOD OF PROVIDING REQUIRED PARKING AND LOADING
10:04:35AM TO REMEDY A DEVELOPER LOOP-HOLE.
10:04:39AM THIS IS CITYWIDE AND WILL AFFECT HOMEOWNERS AND TENANTS
10:04:42AM ALIKE.
10:04:43AM I'LL KEEP THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO
10:04:47AM MY COLLEAGUE AND A MEMBER OF OUR ASSOCIATION, MR. ANDY
10:04:52AM SCAGLIONE.
10:04:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:04:54AM ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE, CHAIRMAN OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.
10:04:58AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHAT IS A WELL-KNOWN
10:05:01AM LOOPHOLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS.
10:05:04AM AND THAT CURRENTLY THE CITY IS APPROVING, AND THAT'S WHERE
10:05:10AM WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS UP.
10:05:11AM THE FIRST ONE IS CONTAIN NO EARLY TERMINATION CLAUSE.
10:05:18AM A FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT, WHATEVER IT IS, TEN-YEAR, THAT THERE
10:05:20AM IS NO TERMINATION CLAUSE.
10:05:22AM AT THAT POINT IF YOU HAVE A 60-DAY TERMINATION CLAUSE, YOU
10:05:26AM HAVE A LEASE.
10:05:27AM YOU DON'T HAVE A FIVE-YEAR.
10:05:28AM THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE RECORD THAT IT'S
10:05:32AM MANDATORY THAT THE LANDLORD AND THE LESSEE HAVE TO RECORD
10:05:37AM THE LEASE.
10:05:39AM THIS WAY IT BECOMES PART OF THE CHAIN OF TITLE BY DOING
10:05:42AM THAT.
10:05:42AM THIS WAY YOU DON'T HAVE THE GAMES BEING PLAYED OF HAVING AN
10:05:46AM ADDENDUM THAT YOU ALL DON'T SEE THAT HAS AN EARLY
10:05:50AM TERMINATION CLAUSE.
10:05:50AM AS I'VE SAID MANY, MANY TIMES, YOU ALL HEARD ME, QUALITY
10:05:56AM DEVELOPMENT VERSUS QUANTITY DEVELOPMENT.
10:06:00AM WE NEED TO SUPPORT AND PROMOTE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE
10:06:07AM IN THE CITY THAT WE LOVE VERSUS HAVING QUANTITY DEVELOPMENT
10:06:11AM ON THE BACKS OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:06:12AM AND THIS IS CLEARLY ON THE BACKS OF NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT'S
10:06:15AM GOING ON NOW.
10:06:16AM WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE PARKING FOR YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR
10:06:19AM DEVELOPMENT, GUESS WHERE THEY ARE PARKING.
10:06:21AM THEY ARE PARKING DOWN THE STREETS OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:06:23AM AND THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:06:26AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
10:06:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:31AM YES, MA'AM.
10:06:32AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
10:06:33AM COME ON UP.
10:06:35AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:06:36AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:06:37AM >> EUREKA WALKER.
10:06:38AM THERE WAS A BURNING IN MY HEART.
10:06:40AM AND I COULD NOT LEAVE HERE WITHOUT STATING, MAKING THIS
10:06:45AM COMMENT.
10:06:46AM BASICALLY, I LISTENED TO EVERYONE, BUT THE GENTLEMAN PRIOR
10:06:49AM TO ME, I'M GOING TO TOUCH REAL QUICK.
10:06:50AM IT'S GOING TO BE SHORT AND SIMPLE.
10:06:53AM COMMUNITY.
10:06:55AM THE DEFINITION OF A COMMUNITY IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE LIVING IN
10:07:00AM THE SAME PLACE, HAVING COMMON INTERESTS OR GOALS.
10:07:04AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALSO TEAM.
10:07:08AM ACRONYM IS TOGETHER EVERYONE ACHIEVES MORE.
10:07:12AM I WANT TO TOUCH ON, WHAT IS A COMMUNITY?
10:07:15AM MY DEFINITION OR MY PERCEPTION OF A COMMUNITY IS THAT THE
10:07:21AM WOMAN, THE RETIREE, THAT MOTHER AND HUSBAND OR THAT SINGLE
10:07:24AM PARENT OR THAT GRANDMOTHER WHO IS RAISING, RE-RAISING THAT
10:07:30AM GRANDCHILD, SUCH AS I.
10:07:31AM I'M A HOMEOWNER.
10:07:34AM I FINISHED FURTHER EDUCATION.
10:07:36AM I CAN RECALL HOW I USED TO TAKE MY MORTGAGE MONEY AND PAY
10:07:39AM FOR ONE CLASS PER SEMESTER FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
10:07:44AM IT TOOK ME FIVE YEARS.
10:07:46AM I GOT IT.
10:07:47AM TOOK EVERYTHING YOU CAN TAKE FOR A BACHELOR'S.
10:07:51AM COMMUNITY IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:07:53AM IT'S CALLED LIFE.
10:07:55AM AS THAT GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING ABOUT THE KIDS, IT'S NOT ALL
10:08:00AM ABOUT THE KIDS.
10:08:00AM EVERYONE AS A TOTAL BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE SORT OF BIAS.
10:08:05AM EVERYONE WOULD GAIN.
10:08:05AM WHAT ABOUT THAT PERSON THAT JUST RETIRED?
10:08:07AM CAN GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO DO, SOME ARTS AND CRAFTS.
10:08:10AM I'LL MAKE IT SHORT.
10:08:12AM WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?
10:08:12AM I WANT TO TIE ON THAT.
10:08:15AM WHAT ABOUT THE SUMMER PROGRAMS.
10:08:16AM THEY ARE IN THE SCHOOL.
10:08:17AM IF THE BUILDING IS THERE, THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO DO,
10:08:20AM AND THAT CAN PREVENT AND DECREASE CRIME RATES, BEING BUSY.
10:08:26AM THE BUILDING WOULD BE USED FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.
10:08:30AM WITHOUT, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE SEE IT.
10:08:35AM IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
10:08:38AM IT GIVES THAT PERSON A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING.
10:08:42AM YOU CAN HOLD CLASSES.
10:08:44AM I'M NOT REALLY GOING TO GET TOO PERSONAL, BUT YOU CAN HAVE
10:08:48AM BUSINESS CLASSES, COOKING CLASS, CULINARY.
10:08:50AM THERE'S MUCH TO BE OFFERED IF THE BUILDING WAS THERE.
10:08:54AM BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
10:08:56AM THAT COMMUNITY IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH A COMMON INTEREST
10:08:59AM AND WITHOUT IT, WE DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO DO THAT.
10:09:03AM THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
10:09:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:09:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:06AM NEXT SPEAKER, GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:09:09AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:09:14AM >> MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL, JOSEPH CITRO, 33611.
10:09:20AM FOUR YEARS AGO, TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MYSELF WENT TO FAIR
10:09:25AM OAKS, AND WE SAW THE TERRIBLE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THAT PARK
10:09:30AM AND RECREATION CENTER WERE IN.
10:09:31AM FOUR YEARS AGO.
10:09:34AM AND FAIR OAKS STILL HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED AND IMPROVED FOR
10:09:39AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:09:41AM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE I SAID CARPE DIEM -- SEIZE THE
10:09:47AM MOMENT.
10:09:47AM IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT MINORITY CONSTRUCTION,
10:09:51AM MINORITY BUSINESS WILL HELP CREATE THIS PARK THAT HAS BEEN
10:09:56AM DISCUSSED FOR THE LAST FOUR LONG YEARS.
10:10:02AM IT TOOK TIME TO GET PROPERTY RIGHTS, TO BUY PROPERTY.
10:10:07AM EACH MOMENT THAT'S WASTED BUILDING THIS WILL JUST COST MORE
10:10:16AM TO BUILD.
10:10:17AM I'M SAYING IT AGAIN, CARPE DIEM.
10:10:23AM TODAY IS THE DAY.
10:10:25AM THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE THE COMMUNITY SUFFERS.
10:10:28AM LET'S BUILD FAIR OAKS.
10:10:31AM I'M ASKING YOU, AFTER FOUR LONG YEARS, APPROVE THIS.
10:10:35AM LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
10:10:36AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:10:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:10:40AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:10:40AM YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:10:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:10:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:45AM I'M SUSAN VIRGINIA DAVIS.
10:10:47AM I'M ALL FOR FAIR OAKS AND MINORITY CONSTRUCTION AND
10:10:53AM APPRENTICE JOBS TO GO OUT TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND
10:10:57AM MIDDLE-AGED PEOPLE TOO.
10:10:59AM I'M RETIRED, SO I'M TOO OLD TO WORK, BUT I'M FOR FAIR OAKS.
10:11:06AM I THINK FAIRNESS IS FAIRNESS.
10:11:09AM PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY BE TAKEN CARE OF AS FAR AS PROVIDED
10:11:14AM JOBS AND APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING.
10:11:17AM I MISSED THE BOAT WHEN I WANTED IN SKILLED TRADES.
10:11:21AM YOU REALLY NEED TO PUT KIDS AND MINORITIES INTO SKILL TRADES
10:11:25AM AND GET MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:11:27AM AS FAR AS THE CEMETERY, I NEVER HAD TO BEG FOR PEOPLE TO
10:11:33AM LEAVE MY MOTHER AND FATHER'S GRAVES ALONE.
10:11:36AM AND THAT'S A SHAME THAT THE CEMETERY IS BEING ABUSED OR
10:11:42AM OVERLOOKED HERE.
10:11:43AM WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE, TOO.
10:11:45AM YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY'S PAST PARENTS AND
10:11:50AM GRANDPARENTS AND PLEASE LOOK AT THAT TOO.
10:11:55AM ANOTHER THING, I NEVER GOT OVER A 3% RAISE AND MOST YEARS
10:12:01AM UNDER MANY GOVERNORS I GOT 0% RAISE.
10:12:05AM SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF 40% RAISE FOR ANYBODY.
10:12:10AM I NEVER GOT ABOVE 3% EVEN WHEN I WORKED FOR THE UAW, NOT
10:12:16AM DIRECTLY FOR THEM, BUT IN A CORPORATION THAT WAS CONTROLLING
10:12:19AM THE UAW A LOT.
10:12:21AM SO 3% WAS THE MAXIMUM I EVER GOT AND I NEVER GOT IT AS A
10:12:27AM TEACHER IN THIS WHOLE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:12:30AM SO 3% IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
10:12:36AM I PRAY THAT YOU WILL HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY HERE AND GIVE
10:12:41AM THE MINORITY CONSTRUCTION WORKERS A CHANCE TO EARN A FAIR
10:12:46AM LIVING AND A FAIR EQUALITY KIND OF TREATMENT.
10:12:50AM SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:12:53AM IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU.
10:12:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:12:55AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:56AM ALL RIGHT.
10:12:59AM MS. POYNOR.
10:13:00AM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
10:13:03AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE LINE UP SO WE KNOW.
10:13:06AM YES, MA'AM.
10:13:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:13:15AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:13:17AM LOTS OF IMPORTANT STUFF ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
10:13:25AM THE LAND USE CONTRACT IS ON THERE, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO
10:13:28AM CHANGE THE CODE.
10:13:29AM ROME YARD.
10:13:31AM THE EAST TAMPA REC CENTER, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS' WORTH.
10:13:34AM THE SCOPE CREEP OF THE SPENDING.
10:13:38AM WHAT I FIND ABSOLUTELY AMAZING IS, IF THE ADMINISTRATION
10:13:42AM WANTS SOMETHING, BY GOD, THE MONEY JUST COMES FLYING OFF THE
10:13:48AM SHELF.
10:13:49AM YET, CITY COUNCIL WANTED THE NAACP TO HAVE MONEY AND THEY
10:13:52AM CAN'T FIND IT TO GIVE IT TO THEM.
10:13:55AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, HOLD ON, THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION DONE,
10:14:04AM FOUR YEARS NOTHING CAME BEFORE THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
10:14:06AM WHO ORDERED THE INVESTIGATION.
10:14:08AM WHY WAS $250,000 OF OUR CITY FUNDS SPENT AND NOBODY FESSES
10:14:15AM UP TO WHO STARTED THE INVESTIGATION.
10:14:17AM YOU KNOW, YOU DO YOUR THING.
10:14:20AM I'LL DO MINE.
10:14:21AM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, NOBODY IS RESPONSIBLE, NOT THE
10:14:24AM PLAINTIFF OR THE DEFENDANT, BUT SOMEBODY IN THIS CITY
10:14:27AM STIRRED THAT POT AND NOBODY WANTS TO FESS UP TO WHO PULLED
10:14:32AM THE TRIGGER ON IT.
10:14:34AM OKAY.
10:14:34AM LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU GUYS' SALARY.
10:14:39AM YOU KNOW, I COME UP HERE EVERY TIME AND I SAY DIFFERENT
10:14:43AM STUFF.
10:14:43AM BOTTOM LINE IS TWO YEARS AGO I GAVE YOU A SPREADSHEET THAT
10:14:47AM LOOKS A LOT LIKE THIS AND NOBODY BACK HERE CAN SEE THE
10:14:50AM NUMBERS.
10:14:50AM I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THEM IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM.
10:14:52AM BUT THAT'S TWO YEARS OLD.
10:14:55AM THE AVERAGE SALARY OF OUR HIGHEST PAID CITY STAFF HAS WENT
10:15:00AM UP $20,000 IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
10:15:03AM THAT'S NOT BOTTOM OF THE BARREL.
10:15:06AM BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER TPD AND FIRE.
10:15:10AM THEY GOT AN 18% RAISE.
10:15:13AM YOU GUYS ARE STILL SITTING AT 3%.
10:15:15AM SORRY, NOT SORRY.
10:15:16AM YES, YOU ALL SIGNED UP TO GET PAID WHAT YOU GET PAID.
10:15:21AM BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU AS INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.
10:15:23AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE SEATS THAT YOU SIT IN.
10:15:26AM AND NOT ONLY SHOULD THIS BE TAKEN CARE OF TODAY, BUT IT
10:15:30AM NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF FOR FUTURE COUNCILS SO THAT IT'S
10:15:34AM NOT SOMETHING THAT'S POLITICAL, THAT YOU GUYS ARE PAID IN,
10:15:41AM WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, IN SCALE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS
10:15:44AM GOTTEN PAID.
10:15:45AM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ALONE WENT UP $21,000 IN THOSE TWO YEARS.
10:15:49AM YOUR GUYS' SALARY WENT UP $2,000 IN THOSE TWO YEARS.
10:15:54AM SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS, THIS REALLY ISN'T --
10:15:57AM BECAUSE I WANT THIS COUNCIL TO LOOK LIKE THIS ROOM.
10:16:03AM IT SHOULDN'T ALL BE FOLKS WHO CAN PAY THEIR BILLS WITHOUT
10:16:07AM GETTING PAID WORTH A SQUAT.
10:16:09AM IT SHOULD BE PEOPLE WHO CAN PAY THEIR MORTGAGE OR PAY THEIR
10:16:12AM RENT WHILE THEY ARE SITTING ON COUNCIL, AND WE NEED TO BE
10:16:15AM RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
10:16:16AM IT NEEDS TO BE CODIFIED.
10:16:17AM IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
10:16:20AM THANK YOU.
10:16:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:16:21AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:16:22AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:16:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, STAFF, AND THE AUDIENCE.
10:16:31AM MY NAME IS BRICE BOWDEN.
10:16:34AM I HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE
10:16:37AM SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST GROUP.
10:16:40AM I AM NOT A NATIVE OF TAMPA OR FLORIDA, SO I HAD TO DO SOME
10:16:44AM RESEARCH ON FAIR OAKS.
10:16:46AM AND WHAT I FOUND ABOUT FAIR OAKS, SAYS FAIR OAKS IN TAMPA,
10:16:49AM FLORIDA, DELIGHTFUL GREENSPACE WHERE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS
10:16:52AM CAN ENJOY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.
10:16:56AM WELL, I'LL SKIP THAT.
10:16:57AM IT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES LIKE WALKING TRAILS,
10:17:02AM PLAYGROUNDS, PICNIC AREAS, PERFECT PLACE TO SPEND TIME WITH
10:17:06AM YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
10:17:07AM SO THAT WAS A WEB DEFINITION.
10:17:13AM I GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT IN FAIR
10:17:15AM OAKS AND WHERE THE CITY OF TAMPA COMBINED THE CURRENT FAIR
10:17:19AM OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER, SEVERAL RECENTLY ACQUIRED ADJACENT
10:17:27AM PROPERTIES TO CREATE A 10.2 EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX.
10:17:33AM BASICALLY THE GOAL IS TO EXPAND THE SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES
10:17:36AM AT THE CURRENT FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER BY ADDING A
10:17:39AM DEDICATED SPACE FOR ACTIVE OLDER ADULTS, RESIDENTS.
10:17:44AM ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION, ACTIVITIES SUCH AS DANCING AND
10:17:48AM IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING A FULL-SIZE GYM, ON AND ON AND ON.
10:17:53AM THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I FOUND ON THE INTERNET.
10:17:56AM WHAT I FOUND AS WELL -- AND THAT'S GOOD.
10:18:00AM THEN I NOTICED, STATED THINGS ABOUT THE NAME CHANGE.
10:18:04AM NOW, THE NAME CHANGE, WHAT I FOUND WAS THE NEGATIVE PART OF
10:18:08AM THE WHOLE PROJECT, WHAT IT DOES, IT CHANGES THE HISTORY.
10:18:13AM IT CHANGES THE COMPLEXION OF THIS.
10:18:18AM THIS IS WHAT I ENVISION, THIS BEING THE CROWN JEWEL OF A
10:18:22AM BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:18:23AM NOW WITH THE NAME CHANGE, IT ALSO CHANGES THE THOUGHT
10:18:26AM PROCESS OF PEOPLE, OF THE ELDERS BEING ABLE TO TELL STORIES
10:18:31AM OF WHEN I -- WE HEARD IT EARLIER, WHEN I WAS THIS, I PLAYED
10:18:34AM FOOTBALL.
10:18:35AM THESE ARE THINGS I DID IN FAIR OAKS.
10:18:37AM ALSO, IT CHANGES AS A LANDMARK.
10:18:40AM LANDMARK SAYING FAIR OAKS, NOW CALL IT EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY
10:18:44AM CENTER, PEOPLE GO, I WANT TO MEET YOU ON 34th AND WILDER
10:18:48AM AND WE HAVE A PLACE HERE.
10:18:50AM THEY GO, OKAY, USED TO SAY MEET YOU ON FAIR OAKS AT THIS
10:18:55AM LOCATION.
10:18:55AM SO CHANGING THE NAME CHANGES A LOT OF THINGS NOT ONLY
10:18:59AM HISTORY BUT ALSO IN THE PRESENT.
10:19:00AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:19:03AM I IMPLORE YOU TO NOT CHANGE THE NAME OF FAIR OAKS PARK.
10:19:07AM THANK YOU.
10:19:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:19:09AM MR. RANSOM.
10:19:11AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE THREE MINUTES.
10:19:14AM >> THANK YOU.
10:19:14AM MY NAME IS JAMES RANSOM.
10:19:16AM I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF TOBA.
10:19:18AM I'M JOINED BY SOME OF OUR TOBA LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE
10:19:22AM GRADUATES, OUR CURRENT STUDENTS IN OUR PROGRAM SO THEY CAN
10:19:25AM UNDERSTAND ABOUT GOVERNANCE AND THE POLICY SIDE AND
10:19:28AM LEGISLATIVE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT OF TAMPA.
10:19:29AM THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE IS NOT TO STOP THE CONSTRUCTION
10:19:33AM PROJECT AT FAIR OAKS, BUT TO HAVE COUNCIL TO NOT APPROVE A
10:19:39AM CONTRACT WITHOUT GOING BACK TO HAVE THE CITY STAFF SHARPEN
10:19:42AM THEIR PENCILS TO FIND OUT HOW TO MATCH WHAT HAPPENED AT
10:19:46AM HANNA AVENUE WITH THE DIRECT SPIN ON BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES.
10:19:51AM SOME FOLKS TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THE BLACK OWNED
10:19:54AM COMPANIES AMONG OTHER MBEs GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
10:19:57AM WORK AT FAIR OAKS.
10:19:58AM THAT'S -- THAT WAS A REALLY TRANSFORMATIVE THING AT HANNA
10:20:03AM AVENUE.
10:20:04AM YOU KNOW AND CITY COUNCIL TAKES CREDIT FOR APPROVING A
10:20:08AM PREVIOUS MBE GOAL OF 35% AT HANNA AVENUE, EXCEPT NO PLAN TO
10:20:14AM ACHIEVE THE GOAL UNTIL WE WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
10:20:17AM ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION AND DPR, THEY WERE
10:20:19AM ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND THEY EXCEEDED THE GOAL OF 20% IN
10:20:25AM BLACK OWNED COMPANIES.
10:20:26AM NOT GREAT DISTANCE FROM FAIR OAKS TO HANNA AVENUE, YET STAFF
10:20:30AM REPORTED AT THE PODIUM THAT THE NEXT GOAL IS 30% AND DIRECT
10:20:35AM SPEND IS 10% WITH BLACK OWNED COMPANIES.
10:20:37AM WE DON'T THINK THAT IS A GOOD NUMBER AND WE THINK WE CAN
10:20:40AM FIND THE SAME COMPANIES THAT ARE BLACK OWNED COMPANIES THAT
10:20:43AM HELP TO BUILD $108 MILLION PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK
10:20:46AM TO FAIR OAKS AND STILL BUILD WITH THE SAME BRICKS AND
10:20:50AM MORTAR, SAME DRYWALL, SAME FLOORING, SAME ELECTRICAL, SAME
10:20:55AM PLUMBING, SAME THINGS YOU USE TO BUILD A BUILDING, DO IT AT
10:20:58AM HANNA AVENUE, DO THE SAME THING AT FAIR OAKS.
10:21:01AM WE MET WITH THE MAYOR, TALKED WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS.
10:21:03AM SHE MET WITH HER STAFF.
10:21:05AM SHE'S WORKING ON THAT WITH HER STAFF.
10:21:07AM WE DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD APPROVE A CONTRACT UNTIL YOU GET
10:21:10AM THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT.
10:21:12AM WE'LL MEET WITH SKANSKA ON APRIL THE 8th TO BEGIN TALKING
10:21:15AM TO THEM ABOUT THEY NEED TO DO THE SAME THING ON THEIR SIDE
10:21:18AM TO LOOK FOR TRADES, TO LOOK FOR SUPER SUBS OR SOMETHING TO
10:21:22AM GET THE NUMBERS UP.
10:21:23AM IF YOU APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH THOSE PARTICULAR NUMBERS,
10:21:27AM YOU'RE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
10:21:30AM WE LIKE TO STAY AT THE LEVEL YOU ARE AT AT HANNA AVENUE OR
10:21:36AM ABOVE.
10:21:36AM SO OUR ASK IS FOR YOU NOT TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT UNTIL
10:21:41AM THEY FIX THOSE NUMBERS AND INCREASE THE DIRECT SPEND WITH
10:21:45AM BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES.
10:21:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:21:47AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
10:21:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:21:48AM THANK YOU.
10:21:48AM THIS THEN CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:21:54AM WAIT.
10:21:59AM ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK, SIR?
10:22:00AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:22:05AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:11AM >> JOE ROBINSON, LIFELONG RESIDENT AT WEST TAMPA AND THE
10:22:18AM SCAGLIONE HOUSE, BUSINESSMAN IN WEST TAMPA, COMMUNITY
10:22:21AM ACTIVIST, LIFELONG RESIDENT IN WEST TAMPA, PROFESSIONAL
10:22:25AM ENGINEER.
10:22:27AM LAST CHAIRMAN OF THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
10:22:30AM CORPORATION.
10:22:30AM CHAIR OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
10:22:35AM AND A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY.
10:22:38AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 62, BUT I WILL MAKE A NOTE ON FAIR
10:22:44AM OAKS.
10:22:46AM PLEASE, I DON'T NEED TO BE INVESTIGATING PUBLIC CORRUPTION.
10:22:49AM LET ME MOVE ON.
10:22:51AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE PROJECT CALLED ROME YARD IN WEST
10:22:57AM TAMPA.
10:22:59AM ROME YARD IS A PROJECT THAT WILL HANDLE APPROXIMATELY 954
10:23:04AM RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AT LEAST 647 AFFORDABLE UNITS TO GO WITH
10:23:11AM ALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE BUILD IN THE WEST RIVER AND
10:23:13AM THE WEST SIDE.
10:23:14AM 29,844 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE.
10:23:23AM 3,761 SQUARE FEET OF WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER.
10:23:26AM AND 19,744 SQUARE FEET OF WEST TAMPA CULTURAL CENTER AND
10:23:36AM ARTS MUSEUM AND CERTAIN COMMUNITY BENEFITS BECAUSE WE DO
10:23:39AM HAVE THE FIRST AND THE ONLY COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT IN
10:23:44AM THE HISTORY OF TAMPA THAT IS EXECUTED BY THIS DEVELOPER IN
10:23:48AM THE CITY.
10:23:49AM THIS REQUEST THAT THEY ARE ASKING TODAY IS A PHASING CHANGE
10:23:56AM AND TIMING PLAN TO BE AMENDED BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED OUT,
10:24:00AM THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE CLEAR AND STAFF NEED TO
10:24:04AM CLARIFY WHAT IS CLEAR.
10:24:06AM SO THIS PLAN CLEARLY, THE AMENDMENT CLEARLY CLEANS THAT UP,
10:24:13AM SHOWS THE PHASING IN DETAIL, PROVIDES NOTES SHOWING WHAT
10:24:17AM BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO GO FIRST, WHAT BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO
10:24:20AM BE LAST, WHERE IS IT LOCATED, AND HOW IT WILL BE DONE.
10:24:26AM STAFF HAS AGREED WITH THIS.
10:24:28AM I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY, MORRIS MASSEY HAS AGREED WITH
10:24:31AM THIS.
10:24:33AM AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT THE COMMUNITY IN WEST TAMPA WANTS
10:24:37AM THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:24:38AM WE DON'T WANT TO BE STALLED LIKE FAIR OAKS IS GOING TO GET
10:24:42AM STALLED.
10:24:42AM SO I'M TELLING YOU NOW WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS MOVE FORWARD.
10:24:48AM WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS AMENDMENT AND PHASING MOVE FORWARD,
10:24:51AM BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE BACK HERE INVESTIGATING FAIR OAKS.
10:24:56AM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY TODAY.
10:24:57AM I'LL BE BACK UP POSSIBLY DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ASKED
10:25:01AM SO BY THE DEVELOPER.
10:25:02AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:25:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING, SIR.
10:25:05AM THIS IS THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
10:25:09AM >> NO, THIS IS NOT -- GO AHEAD.
10:25:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:25:12AM YES, MA'AM.
10:25:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:25:16AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:25:19AM FULL AGENDA.
10:25:20AM I WANT TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 91, 92, 95, AND 98.
10:25:26AM 98, THE HISTORY OF OUR PEOPLE, THE CEMETERY SPEAKS FOR
10:25:29AM ITSELF, SHOULD BE LOOKED AT DIGNITY, THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE
10:25:36AM TO REVISIT THE ISSUES WHERE OUR LOVED ONES WERE LAID TO REST
10:25:41AM SIMPLY BECAUSE DEVELOPERS AND OTHERS HAVE OTHER IDEAS.
10:25:44AM IT SHOULD BE CODIFIED THAT CEMETERIES, LANDMARKS ARE TO BE
10:25:52AM RESPECTED.
10:25:52AM NUMBER 95, AS IT RELATES TO CRIMINAL HISTORY, SCREENING FOR
10:25:57AM BIDDERS.
10:25:58AM I'M CONCERNED THAT, LIKE MOST PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL FROM ONE
10:26:02AM COUNTRY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT AND SECOND
10:26:05AM CHANCES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PEOPLE'S BACKGROUNDS ARE,
10:26:10AM BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THOSE PEOPLE CAME LOOKING FOR A BETTER
10:26:12AM WAY OF LIFE, RIGHT?
10:26:14AM A SECOND CHANCE.
10:26:15AM THIS CITY HAS TO MOVE FORWARD AND SAYING THAT PEOPLE THAT
10:26:19AM HAVE PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE
10:26:24AM FORWARD.
10:26:25AM WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CITY CAN DO THAT THROUGH APPRENTICE
10:26:28AM PROGRAMS OR BONDING, OR WHATEVER SO WE CAN HELP OUR YOUNG
10:26:33AM PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN TRADES LIKE CONSTRUCTION.
10:26:39AM 91, IT SAY RISING TIDES LIFT ALL BOATS.
10:26:45AM INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY IN EAST TAMPA, THE MINIMUM WAGE
10:26:49AM CONTINUED TO BE LOW BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE
10:26:53AM ENOUGH INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:26:56AM SO AS YOU SEE YOURSELF, SEE OUR COMMUNITY.
10:27:00AM 92, IT'S A COMPANY.
10:27:03AM I'LL SPELL OUT THE NAME BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE IT WRONG.
10:27:06AM S-K-A-N-S-K-A.
10:27:09AM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHEREVER THEY GO AND DO SOME WORK,
10:27:13AM YOU KNOW WHAT THEY END UP WITH?
10:27:15AM DISCRIMINATION SUIT.
10:27:16AM RACIAL DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINTS.
10:27:20AM WHY?
10:27:20AM FOR FAILURE TO HIRE MINORITIES, TO FAILURE TO FOLLOW THROUGH
10:27:25AM ON THEIR CONTRACTS WITH MINORITIES, FOR THEIR FAILURE TO
10:27:29AM PROMOTE.
10:27:30AM SO WHEN WE SEE COMPANIES COMING INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND
10:27:34AM A SMALL STANDARD OF WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THE VERY COMMUNITY
10:27:38AM THAT HAS BEEN DEMANDING CHANGE, IF WE ARE GETTING 10%, 20%,
10:27:45AM AND THEY ARE WALKING AWAY WITH THE BIG BAG, WHAT DO THAT DO
10:27:48AM FOR OUR COMMUNITY?
10:27:49AM THE WAY YOU ARE WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY, S-K-A-N-S-K-A,
10:27:56AM THAT HAS HAD A LOT OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINTS, ALL
10:28:00AM THE WAY TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
10:28:04AM EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION, WE WANT TO SEE A CHANGE IN THE WAYS
10:28:09AM BLACK SUBCONTRACTORS, CONTRACTORS, SUPERVISORS TOTE THE
10:28:16AM BIGGEST BAG OUT OF THE PROJECT AND THAT THEY DO NOT END UP
10:28:20AM WITH ALL OF THE BENEFITS.
10:28:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:22AM IF THERE ARE NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS, THE GENTLEMAN
10:28:25AM IN THE BLUE SPORTS COAT WILL BE THE LAST PERSON.
10:28:28AM THIS IS LAST CALL.
10:28:29AM YES, MA'AM, BISHOP PATTY.
10:28:32AM ALL RIGHT.
10:28:33AM MS. COPELAND MILLER, AND WE HAVE ONE MORE.
10:28:36AM MA'AM.
10:28:37AM GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:28:40AM >> MY NAME IS TARNEY SCHQUIET.
10:28:44AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:28:45AM I AM A PROUD TAMPANIAN BORN AND RAISED, GREW UP ON 36 AND
10:28:49AM HENRY RIGHT IN EAST TAMPA.
10:28:51AM I WANT TO JUST TALK TO YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ROME YARD
10:28:55AM AND HOW OUR COMPANY, DUCON CONSTRUCTION, IS ACTUALLY GOING
10:29:00AM TO BE ON THAT PROJECT AND HOW VERY PROUD WE ARE AT THIS
10:29:03AM MOMENT.
10:29:04AM NOT ONLY THAT, WE ALSO SERVED IN THAT SAME PLACE, THE GC ON
10:29:09AM HANNA AVENUE, WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO PERFORM OVER 50% IN WMBE
10:29:15AM NUMBERS.
10:29:15AM MORE OVERLY FOR MYSELF, AS I MENTIONED, I GREW UP RIGHT OFF
10:29:19AM OF HANNA, 36 AND HENRY, AND TO SEE THE TRANSFORMATION AND
10:29:24AM THE PROGRESS WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IS SO BEFITTING FOR ME.
10:29:28AM SO I JUST REALLY WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S GOING TO
10:29:31AM TRANSLATE OVER TO ROME YARD AS WELL AS WEST RIVER WHERE
10:29:35AM WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME IN THOSE NUMBERS.
10:29:39AM SECTION 3, WE GO OUT AND WE ARE ALWAYS AT THE HELM OF MAKING
10:29:43AM SURE THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GIVEN, AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10:29:47AM SERVE AND TO WORK AND THEN PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE
10:29:50AM ECOSYSTEM RIGHT IN THE AREA.
10:29:52AM AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE.
10:29:54AM WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
10:29:55AM WE'RE HERE.
10:29:56AM TAMPANIANS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
10:29:59AM THANK YOU.
10:30:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:30:01AM YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
10:30:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:30:03AM >> EARNEST DUBOSE.
10:30:06AM I AM THE CEO OF DUCON, LLC AND DUCON PLUMBING, LLC, BOTH
10:30:12AM DUCON COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY BASED HERE IN TAMPA
10:30:16AM AND YBOR CITY.
10:30:17AM DUCON PLUMBING, A COMMERCIAL PLUMBING COMPANY, ALSO BASED IN
10:30:22AM YBOR CITY.
10:30:22AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ROME YARD PROJECT FROM A
10:30:28AM MINORITY CONTRACTING PERSPECTIVE.
10:30:31AM THE TIME WE WERE AWARDED THIS PROJECT WITH RELATED GROUP, IT
10:30:35AM WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AS A
10:30:38AM PRIME CONTRACTOR TO BE AT THE TABLE.
10:30:40AM WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO COME UNDER OTHER GENERAL CONTRACTORS,
10:30:44AM LARGER NATIONAL FIRMS LIKE THE ONE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED BY
10:30:48AM THE LADY, BUT RELATED GROUP GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY A FEW
10:30:52AM YEARS AGO WHEN WE PRESENTED AND WERE AWARDED THIS PROJECT TO
10:30:55AM BE A PRIME GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT.
10:30:58AM AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME, AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN OWNED
10:31:03AM GENERAL CONTRACTOR FIRM AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY.
10:31:04AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT FIRST.
10:31:06AM SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN PLEASANTLY AWAITING THIS PROJECT.
10:31:09AM WE'VE HAD IT ON OUR BOOKS.
10:31:11AM IT MEANS A LOT TO US AS A LOCAL GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
10:31:14AM IT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS WE HAVE IN OUR BACK LOG TO
10:31:19AM PARTICIPATE ON.
10:31:20AM IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
10:31:21AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE COMMITTED A GREAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS
10:31:25AM PROGRAM, AND WE AS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WOULD LIKE TO
10:31:28AM BRING OUR HISTORY, OUR EXPERTISE TO THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:31:32AM WE'RE JUST COMPLETING HANNA AVENUE PROJECT WHERE OUR FIRM
10:31:35AM CONSTRUCTION MANAGED $15 MILLION OF THE NEW TAMPA CITY
10:31:39AM CENTER.
10:31:40AM ON THAT PROJECT, WE ACHIEVED 58% MINORITY WMBE CONTRACTING.
10:31:46AM OF THAT 58 -- OF THE TOTAL PROJECT, 52% OF THE SUBCONTRACTS
10:31:51AM ON THAT $15 MILLION WERE AWARDED TO AFRICAN AMERICAN OWNED
10:31:57AM SUBCONTRACTING BUSINESSES.
10:31:58AM NOT SMALL PIECES.
10:31:59AM CONCRETE, ALL THE CONCRETE ON THE SCOPE.
10:32:02AM THE AC, THE ELECTRICAL, AFRICAN AMERICAN OWNED, TAMPA-BASED
10:32:07AM SUBCONTRACTORS.
10:32:07AM THE SKILL CENTER PROJECT, BY WE'RE WRAPPING UP.
10:32:10AM MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
10:32:12AM WE ARE ACTUALLY A PARTNER ON THAT PROJECT WHERE, AGAIN,
10:32:14AM WE'VE ACHIEVED OVER 30% WMBE ON THAT PROJECT THAT'S WRAPPING
10:32:18AM UP NOW.
10:32:19AM SO I SAY THAT TO STATE THAT IT'S A PASSION, AND WE ARE
10:32:24AM ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE ROME YARD PROJECT NOT ONLY FOR WHAT
10:32:27AM WE CAN DO DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO
10:32:31AM WHAT THAT PROJECT MEANS POST-CONSTRUCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY
10:32:34AM BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED IN THAT PROJECT.
10:32:36AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:32:38AM WE ASK THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD MOVE FORWARD FOR THE BENEFIT
10:32:41AM OF GREATER TAMPA BAY.
10:32:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:32:43AM MS. COPELAND MILLER, GOOD MORNING.
10:32:46AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:32:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:32:47AM MY NAME IS NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
10:32:50AM AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA, CAC ADVISORY
10:32:56AM COUNCIL, COMMITTEE.
10:32:57AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
10:33:02AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
10:33:03AM AND AS I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING TO PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE
10:33:06AM CEMETERIES, I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AT MEMORIAL
10:33:12AM PARK CEMETERY AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:33:15AM MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING BECAUSE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT CAME
10:33:18AM UP AND WERE TALKING ABOUT CEMETERIES, THAT LOOK LIKE ME, THE
10:33:21AM LAST TIME I CAME UP, I WAS STANDING HERE ALONE WITH FOLKS
10:33:25AM THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE ME THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND WE
10:33:28AM APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
10:33:29AM THE OTHER THING I'M HERE ALSO TO TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
10:33:32AM AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:33:36AM I KNOW THAT FAIR OAKS IS A PART OF HISTORY.
10:33:39AM AND AS WE LOOK AT CEMETERIES, WE KNOW THAT THAT HISTORY GETS
10:33:42AM ERASED THE MINUTE WE CHANGE THE NAMES TO SOMETHING THAT IS
10:33:45AM NOT RELEVANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:33:47AM I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH FAIR OAKS.
10:33:51AM FOR YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN MEETINGS.
10:33:54AM FOR YEARS WE GOT THE SAME OLD SAME.
10:33:56AM BUT FAIR OAKS DESERVES TO BE REBUILDING.
10:34:00AM FRANKLY SPEAKING, I HAVE MORE YEARS BEHIND ME THAN I DO IN
10:34:02AM THE FRONT OF ME.
10:34:03AM AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN THAT BUILDING AND ENJOY
10:34:06AM THOSE AMENITIES.
10:34:07AM I AM A LONGTIME RESIDENT IN EAST TAMPA, OVER 30 YEARS.
10:34:11AM I PAY MY TAXES.
10:34:12AM AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT
10:34:16AM OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE.
10:34:17AM PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH FAIR OAKS.
10:34:20AM PLEASE BUILD IT.
10:34:21AM YOU'VE HAD SO MUCH MONEY SPENT ON MEETINGS.
10:34:25AM YOU FED THE COMMUNITY.
10:34:26AM YOU SHOWED ALL KINDS OF MOVING FORWARD.
10:34:29AM AS THEY OFTEN SAY, THE GROUP SHOW UP -- LEFT THE BARN.
10:34:34AM TODAY I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP.
10:34:36AM THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
10:34:38AM PLEASE, I IMPLORE AND BEG YOU GUYS TO MOVE FORWARD AND BUILD
10:34:43AM FAIR OAKS.
10:34:44AM THE LAST THING I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IS, I WAS LOOKING HERE,
10:34:49AM THE SALARIES.
10:34:51AM I'VE COME HERE A LOT OF TIMES IN THE CHAMBER.
10:34:54AM I SEE SOME PEOPLE BEHAVIORS THAT IS VERY INAPPROPRIATE.
10:34:58AM I KNOW THAT IT WAS NEVER HAPPENING BEFORE SOMEONE WAS GOING
10:35:02AM ON.
10:35:03AM AS I HEAR FOLKS COMING UP ABOUT THIS SALARY INCREASE BEING A
10:35:06AM GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE WHEN I WAS WORKING, 3%, GOOD TO GET
10:35:12AM THAT, SOME OF THE OUTRAGEOUS THINGS SAYING WHAT THE SALARY
10:35:15AM IS.
10:35:15AM YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB.
10:35:17AM I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
10:35:18AM YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
10:35:19AM IF PEOPLE ARE COMING UP DISPLAYING ERRATIC BEHAVIOR AND
10:35:23AM BEING OFFENSIVE TO PEOPLE AND IN THE COMMUNITY, THEN THEY
10:35:25AM COME UP AND ASK FOR A SALARY INCREASE, I HAVE TO WONDER,
10:35:29AM WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM?
10:35:30AM ARE THEY BEING ENCOURAGED THINKING THEY CAN PUSH THAT AND
10:35:34AM HAVE FAVOR IN THE CHAMBER BECAUSE SOME OF THEM DO HAVE FAVOR
10:35:37AM IN THE CHAMBER.
10:35:38AM CONTINUE TO SERVE US AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:35:42AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
10:35:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:35:44AM BISHOP PATTY, YOU WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
10:35:47AM LAST CALL.
10:35:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:49AM YES, MA'AM.
10:35:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:35:51AM MY NAME IS DEVARA SIMS HART.
10:35:54AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HONOR TO GOD, MY FAMILY, AND MY
10:35:59AM HUSBAND JAMES HART.
10:36:00AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCILPERSONS AND AUDIENCE.
10:36:03AM I'M HERE TO REPRESENT CUT-UPS LAWN SERVICE AS THE ONLY
10:36:07AM BLACK-OWNED WOMAN LANDSCAPER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:36:10AM CUT-UPS OPENED ITS DOORS FEBRUARY 20, 2002, BY MY NOW
10:36:18AM DECEASED HUSBAND, JAMES HART JUNIOR.
10:36:22AM WE ARE NOW IN OUR 22nd YEAR AS A SMALL BUT GROWING
10:36:27AM BUSINESS.
10:36:27AM I COME TO YOU AS A GRADUATE OF THE SKANSKA MENTOR PROT G
10:36:33AM PROGRAM WHO HAS COLLABORATED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
10:36:37AM FLORIDA OFFICE OF SUPPLY DIVERSITY, DIRECTED BY MS. TERRY
10:36:42AM DANIELS.
10:36:43AM IN 2023, I WAS ONE OF THE GRADUATES WHO TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY
10:36:47AM TO LEARN EVERY AREA AND RECEIVE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT I WAS
10:36:51AM OFFERED AND THEY DELIVERED.
10:36:53AM THANK YOU TRACY NADIR AND CHUCK WHO FREELY TOOK ME UNDER
10:37:01AM THEIR WINGS AND LET ME FLY WITH NO RESERVATIONS.
10:37:05AM I WORKED HARD TO GET HERE.
10:37:07AM I APPLIED FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, APPLIED FOR HILLSBOROUGH
10:37:11AM COUNTY GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:37:12AM I ALSO DID THE SAME THINGS FOR SKANSKA PREQUALIFICATION
10:37:17AM PROFILE.
10:37:18AM I PUT IN THE PAPERWORK.
10:37:19AM THEY ASKED ME QUESTIONS.
10:37:20AM THEY SENT ME PAPERWORK ITEMS BACK TO REVIEW, TO REVIEW, TO
10:37:25AM RESEND TO UPDATE.
10:37:26AM THIS WAS A LONG AND CHALLENGING PROCESS, BUT IT WAS WELL
10:37:30AM WORTH IT.
10:37:31AM THIS SMALL BUT GROWING COMPANY HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH
10:37:35AM SKANSKA AND HEAR ME NOW, WITH THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT.
10:37:39AM I WON THE BID FOR LANDSCAPING.
10:37:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:37:42AM FOR IRRIGATION, LANDSCAPING AND TREES.
10:37:46AM WE ARE THE GROUNDS PEOPLE AT THE SITE WORK.
10:37:49AM I LIVE AND I OPERATE CUT-UPS LAWN SERVICE IN THE EAST TAMPA
10:37:55AM COMMUNITY.
10:37:55AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM FAIR OAKS
10:37:58AM PARK.
10:37:58AM I KNOW I AM AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE
10:38:02AM WAITING TO ENJOY NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED PARK THAT WILL BE
10:38:06AM USED AS A MODEL FOR OTHER PARKS, RECREATION CENTERS IN OTHER
10:38:11AM CITIES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHICH WILL FINANCIALLY
10:38:14AM BENEFIT BOTH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE STATE.
10:38:17AM FAIR OAKS PARK IS JUST THE BEGINNING FOR CUT-UPS LAWN
10:38:21AM SERVICE AND SKANSKA.
10:38:22AM BEFORE REVIEWING THE BIDDING ON THIS PROJECT, I BROUGHT IN
10:38:28AM TWO YOUNG BLACK MEN WHO ARE AS EAGER TO ASSIST ME IN WORKING
10:38:31AM WITH CUT-UPS LAWN SERVICE.
10:38:33AM DeSHAUN WALKER, PROJECT MANAGER FOR TREES, JOSHUA RABINA,
10:38:39AM PROJECT MANAGER FOR IRRIGATION.
10:38:41AM JIM POTANSKA, EXCAVATING AND BUILDING.
10:38:44AM FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY ALL MINORITY BLACK
10:38:50AM EMPLOYEES WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE AT A LIVABLE WAGE AND
10:38:55AM ARE NOW ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
10:38:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:39:00AM >> THESE ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN OF FAIR OAKS PARK TODAY.
10:39:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:39:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:04AM ALL RIGHT.
10:39:05AM OUR LAST SPEAKER.
10:39:07AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:39:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:39:09AM MY NAME IS BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:39:12AM I AM THE PASTOR OF TRINITY AND FAITH MINISTRY.
10:39:15AM 90% OF MY PARISHIONERS LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:39:20AM FOUR YEARS AGO, WHEN I CAME AND STOOD BEFORE THIS PODIUM
10:39:22AM ALONG WITH MR. JAY JOHNSON, THE DISTRACTERS, NOBODY WAS
10:39:25AM HERE.
10:39:25AM THEY WERE -- I WAS TOLD, NO, THAT FAIR OAKS COULD NOT BE
10:39:30AM DONE.
10:39:31AM THERE WAS NO MONEY.
10:39:32AM I MET WITH MANY OF YOU ALL.
10:39:33AM I MET WITH THE MAYOR.
10:39:34AM I CONSTANTLY CAME DOWN HERE.
10:39:37AM NO ONE IN THIS ROOM SUPPORTED OR CAME AND FOUGHT FOR FAIR
10:39:41AM OAKS BUT MYSELF.
10:39:43AM NOW THAT FAIR OAKS IS READY TO BE BUILT, NOW WE HAVE THE
10:39:48AM STRUCTURES THAT IS COMING, TRYING TO STOP THIS PROJECT.
10:39:52AM IF YOU STOP, DON'T SIGN THE CONTRACT, YOU HAVE KILLED FAIR
10:39:57AM OAKS, IT WOULD BE DEAD ON ARRIVAL BECAUSE EVERY DAY THINGS
10:40:02AM ARE GOING UP.
10:40:03AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BONDING.
10:40:05AM THERE ARE MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING BONDED RIGHT NOW HERE
10:40:08AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:40:11AM THE BONDING IS NOT SO BIG THAT THE CITY CAN'T HANDLE THIS
10:40:15AM FOR FAIR OAKS.
10:40:17AM WHAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, NOBODY WANT THIS PROJECT WITH THE
10:40:20AM AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE PUT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:40:23AM LET'S BE FAIR ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS PROJECT CAN BE PAID
10:40:27AM OFF EARLY.
10:40:28AM THIS PROJECT CAN BE REFINANCED.
10:40:30AM IT CAN BE DONE.
10:40:32AM BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, THEY HAVE USED
10:40:37AM THE FEW PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME TO HOLD UP THIS CONTRACT.
10:40:41AM AS YOU JUST HEARD, THIS BLACK FEMALE SAYS SHE'S GETTING WORK
10:40:45AM FOR SKANSKA, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BLACK FEMALE WHO WAS GIVEN
10:40:49AM A CONTRACT TO KICK THIS THING OFF, BRINGING THE COMMUNITY
10:40:53AM TOGETHER, BRINGING CONTRACTORS TOGETHER.
10:40:56AM KIM JACKSON, AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE.
10:40:58AM THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM THIS PROJECT THAT
10:41:03AM CONTINUED BENEFIT.
10:41:04AM NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT SKANSKA BROUGHT IT IN UNDER THE
10:41:08AM COST.
10:41:09AM YOU ALL NOW HAVE PUT OUT IN THE MEDIA THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
10:41:12AM X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
10:41:13AM THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL KEEP BUMPING IT UP.
10:41:16AM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT FAIR OAKS IS GOING TO BE THE
10:41:20AM ENVY OF THIS NATION, BUT IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE
10:41:24AM PEOPLE IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA.
10:41:27AM THAT'S WHAT IS TAKING PLACE HERE.
10:41:29AM SECONDLY, I WANT TO TALK REAL QUICK ABOUT THE MONIES.
10:41:32AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING $45,000 TO GUDES.
10:41:36AM THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS NOT EXONERATED.
10:41:38AM THE GENTLEMAN WHO SAID AND CONFESSED THAT HE SAID
10:41:42AM DEROGATORY, NASTY SEXUAL COMMENTS TO A 13-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
10:41:47AM SO TELL ME HOW -- AND THE VOTERS -- HOW THIS EQUATES TO HIM,
10:41:52AM THIS BEING IN THE SCOPE OF HIS JOB AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL
10:41:56AM TALKING TO A 13-YEAR-OLD CHILD ABOUT HER BREASTS.
10:42:00AM SO HOW DARE YOU, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY,
10:42:03AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING AWAY MONEY, WHY WOULD YOU GIVE
10:42:05AM THIS PERSON $45,000 WHEN THEY TALK TO THE CHILD LIKE THAT?
10:42:09AM WHY.
10:42:11AM BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR CHILD.
10:42:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:13AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:42:15AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS, CONSENT AGENDA.
10:42:18AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY, SIR, 4
10:42:22AM THROUGH 12.
10:42:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 12, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:42:28AM MIRANDA.
10:42:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:42:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:30AM AYE.
10:42:30AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:42:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, COULD I MAKE ONE QUICK STATEMENT?
10:42:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:42:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ON ITEM 15 -- ON ITEM 10, WE JUST
10:42:44AM APPROVED VERSA TERM.
10:42:47AM THERE IS A CONCERN AMONG THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT THERE IS A
10:42:50AM SECOND SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT, CALLED
10:42:54AM STREET SMART.
10:42:55AM AND THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S DUPLICATIVE.
10:42:58AM THAT WAS APPROVED SOME TIME AGO.
10:43:00AM I WANT TO PUT A PLACE HOLDER OUT THERE THAT WE SHOULD CANCEL
10:43:02AM THE CONTRACT.
10:43:03AM ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITHIN THE
10:43:06AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:43:06AM WE NEED TO WATCH THAT.
10:43:07AM NOTHING TO DO WITH VERSA STREAM, BUT IT ALSO DOES WHAT
10:43:11AM STREET SMART DOES.
10:43:12AM ON THAT NOTE ALSO, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON NUMBER 15.
10:43:16AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUBLICLY
10:43:19AM DISCLOSE.
10:43:20AM I'M ALSO GOING TO -- I WANT TO -- COULD I PLEASE MAKE A
10:43:24AM MOTION TO PUT A RECEIVE AND FILE CONFLICT FORM.
10:43:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:43:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:43:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:33AM AYE.
10:43:34AM OPPOSED?
10:43:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: SAY PUBLICLY, MY FIRM DOES BUSINESS WITH A
10:43:40AM COMPANY THAT IS RELATED TO THIS.
10:43:41AM MY COMPANY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:43:44AM AND WE DON'T WORK WITH ANY CLIENTS ON ISSUES RELATED TO THE
10:43:46AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:43:47AM AND IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I'LL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THAT
10:43:50AM ONE.
10:43:51AM CAN WE VOTE ON THE OTHERS AND THEN VOTE ON THAT ONE.
10:43:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, 13 THROUGH 20
10:43:57AM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 15.
10:43:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE ITEMS 13, 14, 16 THROUGH 20.
10:44:03AM FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURE COMMITTEE.
10:44:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:44:07AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:09AM AYE.
10:44:09AM WE'LL JUST WAIT FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO STEP OUT.
10:44:14AM THERE HE GOES.
10:44:17AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND MOVING 15?
10:44:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURE
10:44:23AM COMMITTEE, I MOVE ITEM 15.
10:44:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR
10:44:26AM ITEM 15, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:28AM AYE.
10:44:29AM PLEASE READ THE VOTE ACKNOWLEDGING THE RECUSAL.
10:44:33AM >>THE CLERK: YES, MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
10:44:37AM ABSTAINING AND VIERA ABSENT.
10:44:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PERFECT.
10:44:41AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:41AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, 21 THROUGH 37.
10:44:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 37.
10:44:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:44:49AM HURTAK.
10:44:50AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:44:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:51AM AYE.
10:44:52AM NEXT UP, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, 38 THROUGH 42.
10:44:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 38 THROUGH 42.
10:44:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WITH
10:45:00AM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:45:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:45:02AM AYE.
10:45:02AM ANY OPPOSED? COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU ARE UP, WITH THE
10:45:07AM EXCEPTION OF 58, 59 AND THEN 62 WE'LL TAKE AFTER 91.
10:45:15AM EVERYTHING EXCEPT 58, 59, AND 62.
10:45:23AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON TO MOVE ITEMS
10:45:26AM 43 THROUGH 57, 60, 61, AND THEN 63 AND 64.
10:45:37AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:45:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:45:40AM AYE.
10:45:40AM WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT LATER.
10:45:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FOR
10:45:47AM NUMBER 67, ALSO SAME THING.
10:45:48AM MY FIRM DOESN'T WORK WITH ANYONE THAT DOESN'T WORK ON ANY
10:45:51AM BUSINESS RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE
10:45:53AM OF CAUTION, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF AND SUBMIT FORM F 8
10:45:59AM B, RECEIVE AND FILE, PLEASE.
10:46:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
10:46:03AM RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:46:04AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:46:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:46:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:46:08AM AYE.
10:46:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 65 THROUGH 66 AND 68 THROUGH
10:46:16AM 75.
10:46:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
10:46:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:46:20AM YES, MA'AM.
10:46:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A MENTION THAT THERE
10:46:24AM ARE FOUR SEGMENTS OF THE GREEN ARTERY THAT ARE BEING
10:46:27AM APPROVED IN THIS, THAT F.D.O.T. IS PAYING FOR.
10:46:29AM SO VERY EXCITING.
10:46:30AM I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
10:46:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
10:46:34AM AYE.
10:46:34AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:46:35AM ALL RIGHT.
10:46:37AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM 67.
10:46:42AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:46:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEM 67.
10:46:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR
10:46:47AM 67.
10:46:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:46:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:46:50AM AYE.
10:46:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:46:51AM GO AHEAD.
10:46:55AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
10:46:58AM ABSTAINING AND VIERA ABSENT.
10:47:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:47:02AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND SETTING THE 76
10:47:05AM THROUGH 78.
10:47:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 76 -- [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE
10:47:09AM NOT ON] -- ITEM 77 FOR APRIL THE 11 AT 5:01 AND MAY 2nd AT
10:47:18AM 10:30 A.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
10:47:21AM BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:47:23AM MOVE ITEM NUMBER 78 FOR APRIL THE 18th AT 10 A.M., AND
10:47:29AM THIRD FLOOR CITY COUNCIL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
10:47:33AM MOVE ITEM --
10:47:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR 10:30 ON THE LAST
10:47:38AM ONE.
10:47:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 10:30, YES.
10:47:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:47:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:47:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:47:44AM AYE.
10:47:44AM I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:47:48AM JUST TO BE SAFE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC
10:47:50AM HEARINGS?
10:47:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
10:47:53AM HEARINGS.
10:47:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:47:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:47:56AM AYE.
10:47:56AM ALL RIGHT.
10:47:57AM THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
10:47:59AM 79 AND IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:48:07AM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:48:09AM 79 IS SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE CORRECTING A
10:48:13AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR TO THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY STANDARDS.
10:48:15AM THIS ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED ON FIRST READING ON MARCH 7.
10:48:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
10:48:21AM THIS IS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
10:48:23AM I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 79.
10:48:27AM I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.
10:48:27AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:48:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:48:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:48:30AM AYE.
10:48:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING 79?
10:48:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER -- I MOVE FILE NUMBER E2023-8
10:48:46AM CHAPTER 7.
10:48:47AM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:48:49AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:48:52AM AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-88 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE
10:48:58AM CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON JULY 13, 2023, BY
10:49:02AM CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE
10:49:06AM AND IN THE TEXT AMENDING SECTION 27-240 E 1 F.3, EAST TAMPA
10:49:14AM OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
10:49:18AM ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
10:49:21AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:49:23AM HENDERSON.
10:49:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:49:26AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:49:26AM IF WE COULD ACTIVATE THE TOUCH PAD HERE.
10:49:29AM IF NOT, WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE.
10:49:48AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS.
10:49:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:49:59AM >> HURTAK?
10:50:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:50:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:50:03AM >> VIERA IS ABSENT.
10:50:05AM MIRANDA?
10:50:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:50:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:50:06AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA
10:50:10AM ABSENT AND HURTAK ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:50:12AM THANK YOU.
10:50:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:14AM ITEM NUMBER 80, THIS IS FOR MARJORIE PARK MARINA.
10:50:19AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
10:50:20AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:50:21AM ITEM 80 IS SECOND READING FOR THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE
10:50:26AM MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE.
10:50:29AM CITY STAFF MADE A PRESENTATION AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING ON
10:50:32AM MARCH 7, 2024.
10:50:33AM WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:50:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL
10:50:36AM MEMBERS?
10:50:37AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:50:38AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
10:50:40AM ITEM 80?
10:50:41AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM
10:50:44AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:50:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:50:45AM AYE.
10:50:46AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:50:46AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
10:50:49AM 80?
10:50:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE HPC-23-02-C, AN ORDINANCE
10:50:54AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
10:50:56AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING
10:50:58AM MARJORIE PARK MARINA GATEHOUSE, 115 COLUMBIA DRIVE, TAMPA,
10:51:03AM FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF
10:51:06AM AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10:51:09AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
10:51:11AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:51:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:51:13AM CLENDENIN.
10:51:14AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:51:15AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:51:17AM NO, IT'S NO NOT FLASHING HERE.
10:51:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT DID FOR A MOMENT.
10:51:23AM >> HURTAK?
10:51:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:51:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:51:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:51:29AM >> VIERA?
10:51:30AM MIRANDA?
10:51:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:51:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:51:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:51:33AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA
10:51:36AM ABSENT.
10:51:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:38AM AT THIS TIME, WE GO INTO OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:51:41AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ITEMS 82 THROUGH I'LL SAY
10:51:49AM 89, THAT ONE WILL BE RESCHEDULED.
10:51:51AM 82 THROUGH 89, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND AND
10:51:55AM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:52:03AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:52:05AM TO GIVE IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:52:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:52:10AM YES, MA'AM.
10:52:10AM GO AHEAD WITH ITEM NUMBER 82.
10:52:13AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:52:16AM COUNCIL, ITEM 82 IS FILE NUMBER AB2-23-33.
10:52:22AM THIS IS A SPECIAL USE REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
10:52:25AM THIS IS FOR A RESTAURANT CLASSIFICATION CONSUMPTION ON
10:52:29AM PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF-PREMISES FOR BEER AND WINE.
10:52:33AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
10:52:36AM THIS IS AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1523 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
10:52:40AM THERE WERE SITE PLAN CHANGES REQUIRED.
10:52:42AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:52:45AM CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:52:46AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:52:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MS. DOCK?
10:52:50AM NO.
10:52:51AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 82?
10:52:55AM I SEE MS. SHAYLA IS ONLINE.
10:52:59AM IS SHE ONLINE OR SHE IS REGISTERED?
10:53:01AM SHE IS.
10:53:02AM SHE WAS NOT SWORN IN.
10:53:05AM IF SHE'S GOING TO SPEAK, WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:53:10AM YOU DON'T SEE THEM.
10:53:11AM ALL RIGHT.
10:53:11AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
10:53:14AM 82?
10:53:14AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
10:53:17AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:53:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:19AM AYE.
10:53:19AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 82.
10:53:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO PROBLEM.
10:53:24AM THANK YOU.
10:53:24AM ITEM NUMBER 82, FILE AB2-23-33, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:53:30AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
10:53:33AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SU-2) FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES --
10:53:37AM RESTAURANT (CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE
10:53:40AM SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION) AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
10:53:44AM OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT
10:53:48AM OF LAND LOCATED AT 1523 EAST 7TH AVENUE, FIRST FLOOR ONLY,
10:53:54AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3;
10:53:58AM PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
10:54:01AM CONFLICT ARE REPEALED; REPEALING AB1-23-37; PROVIDING AN
10:54:08AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:54:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:54:10AM HURTAK.
10:54:11AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:54:12AM IT'S NOT FLASHING AGAIN, SO ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:54:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:54:19AM >> VIERA?
10:54:19AM MIRANDA?
10:54:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:54:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:54:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:54:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:54:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:54:26AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:54:29AM ABSENT.
10:54:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:31AM YES, MA'AM, MS. DOCK.
10:54:32AM ITEM 83.
10:54:32AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:54:36AM ITEM 83 IS AB2-24-01.
10:54:39AM THIS IS A SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES.
10:54:43AM CLASSIFICATION IS BAR/LOUNGE WITH CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
10:54:47AM PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISES.
10:54:50AM THIS IS BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, PROPERTY AT 304 EAST DAVIS
10:54:54AM BOULEVARD.
10:54:55AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
10:54:58AM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
10:54:59AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
10:55:00AM THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:55:04AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:55:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
10:55:07AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 83?
10:55:10AM REGISTERED ONLINE.
10:55:11AM IS MR. PRESSMAN ON?
10:55:13AM HE IS NOT ON.
10:55:14AM DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM 83?
10:55:17AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:55:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:55:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:21AM AYE.
10:55:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:22AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, 83.
10:55:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 83, FILE AB2-24-01,
10:55:28AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:55:31AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SU-2) FOR
10:55:34AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, BAR/LOUNGE/NIGHTCLUB, CONSUMPTION
10:55:39AM ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND
10:55:43AM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
10:55:47AM CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT,
10:55:51AM PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 304 EAST DAVIS BOULEVARD,
10:55:56AM AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT
10:55:58AM ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
10:56:01AM REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2014-76, PROVIDING AN
10:56:07AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:56:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY CLENDENIN.
10:56:10AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:56:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:56:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:56:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:56:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:56:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:56:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:19AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:56:21AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:56:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, YES, MA'AM, MS. DOCK.
10:56:25AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:56:28AM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:56:30AM ITEM 84 IS AB2-24-03.
10:56:34AM THIS IS A SPECIAL USE REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
10:56:36AM A SMALL VENUE CLASSIFICATION WITH CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
10:56:39AM ONLY.
10:56:40AM THIS IS FOR BEER AND WINE.
10:56:41AM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 253 WESTSHORE PLAZA.
10:56:45AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
10:56:47AM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
10:56:49AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
10:56:50AM THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:56:53AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:56:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:56:55AM SEEING NONE, MR. MANASSE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:57:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:57:01AM RYAN MANASSE WITH JOHNSON POPE, 400 NORTH ASHLEY.
10:57:05AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:57:06AM OTHERWISE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:57:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:57:10AM NO.
10:57:11AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
10:57:13AM THIS ITEM?
10:57:14AM I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
10:57:18AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:57:20AM MIRANDA WITH THE SECOND.
10:57:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:21AM AYE.
10:57:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 84, FILE AB2-24-03, ORDINANCE BEING
10:57:27AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:57:29AM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
10:57:33AM SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING
10:57:37AM LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
10:57:41AM OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 253 WESTSHORE PLAZA, TAMPA,
10:57:45AM FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2,
10:57:47AM PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
10:57:50AM CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:57:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
10:57:54AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:57:56AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:57:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:57:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:57:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:57:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:58:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:58:02AM >> VIERA?
10:58:03AM MANISCALCO?
10:58:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:58:04AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:58:07AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:58:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:58:09AM YES, MA'AM, MS. DOCK, 85.
10:58:11AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:58:12AM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:58:14AM ITEM 85 IS AB2-24-04.
10:58:17AM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 601 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND
10:58:21AM BOULEVARD.
10:58:21AM THE REQUEST IS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE,
10:58:24AM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION
10:58:27AM OFF-PREMISES.
10:58:28AM WITH THE BEER, WINE, LIQUOR CATEGORY.
10:58:30AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
10:58:33AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
10:58:35AM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
10:58:37AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED
10:58:39AM AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:58:41AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:58:44AM NO.
10:58:45AM ALL RIGHT.
10:58:45AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 85?
10:58:47AM YES, SIR.
10:58:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, KEVIN REALI WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER.
10:58:53AM 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
10:58:54AM JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:55AM WE WERE LAST ON THE AGENDA ON FIRST READING.
10:58:58AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON LOOKED LIKE SHE HAD A QUESTION, SO I
10:59:00AM WANT TO ANSWER THAT, IF NECESSARY.
10:59:01AM IF NOT, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:59:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:59:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, SIR.
10:59:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:59:06AM NO.
10:59:07AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 85?
10:59:09AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO -- YES, MA'AM.
10:59:11AM THERE WAS NOBODY REGISTERED THAT I SAW.
10:59:17AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:59:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:59:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:59:20AM AYE.
10:59:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, CHAIR.
10:59:23AM I MOVE FILE AB2-24-04, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:59:28AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:59:29AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
10:59:33AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
10:59:37AM PREMISES AND -- AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
10:59:50AM SU FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
10:59:54AM PREMISES AND PACKAGE OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING
10:59:58AM LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
11:00:00AM CONTENT, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, AT OR FROM A CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
11:00:06AM OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 601 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND
11:00:11AM BOULEVARD AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2,
11:00:14AM PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:00:17AM CONFLICT ARE REPEALED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:00:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:00:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:00:24AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:00:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:00:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:00:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:00:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:00:32AM >> VIERA?
11:00:32AM MIRANDA?
11:00:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:00:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:00:35AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
11:00:38AM ABSENT.
11:00:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:41AM WE'LL GO INTO OUR 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:00:43AM ITEM NUMBER 86.
11:01:13AM >> ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING FILE
11:01:17AM VAC-24-01.
11:01:19AM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS CHRISTOPHER THACH, PROPERTY ADDRESS
11:01:22AM IS 4107 NORTH CLEARFIELD AVENUE.
11:01:26AM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY
11:01:28AM LYING NORTH OF NORTH A STREET AND SOUTH OF ALVA STREET, EAST
11:01:32AM OF CLEARFIELD AVENUE AND WEST OF LYNN AVENUE.
11:01:36AM THIS APPLICATION FILED CITY OF TAMPA OCTOBER 11, 2023.
11:01:43AM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS IT IS A PUBLIC
11:01:46AM NUISANCE.
11:01:47AM THE ALLEY WAS CREATED BY A SUBDIVISION PLAT.
11:01:50AM EXISTING ALLEYWAY IS APPROXIMATELY 3,564 SQUARE FEET.
11:01:54AM HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN
11:02:02AM YELLOW.
11:02:03AM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED.
11:02:05AM HERE IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST WHEN IT WAS PLATTED IN
11:02:15AM CHELSEA SUBDIVISION IN BLOCK 7.
11:02:20AM ATLAS SHEET, PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN RED, BLOCK 7,
11:02:27AM CHELSEA SUBDIVISION.
11:02:28AM HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING EAST FROM
11:02:38AM CLEARFIELD AVENUE.
11:02:43AM IMAGE LOOKING WEST FROM LYNN AVENUE.
11:02:50AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
11:02:55AM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY WASTEWATER, TECO AND
11:02:57AM FRONTIER.
11:02:58AM SPECIAL CONDITIONS CONSIST OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
11:03:01AM MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION AND
11:03:05AM SITE DESIGN FOR IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE
11:03:08AM VACATED AREA.
11:03:09AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:03:11AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:03:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM MR. SAMONS?
11:03:14AM NO.
11:03:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:03:15AM APPLICANT?
11:03:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
11:03:24AM I'M CHRISTOPHER THACH, 4107 NORTH CLEARFIELD AVENUE.
11:03:28AM I'M ONE OF THE FOUR ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE
11:03:33AM ALLEYWAY.
11:03:34AM I'VE LIVED IN THE RESIDENCE SINCE 1999, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN
11:03:43AM ANY -- OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NO MUNICIPAL USE OF THE ALLEY, AND
11:03:48AM THERE HAVE BEEN NO -- THE -- NO CIVILIAN USE OF THE ALLEY IN
11:03:53AM THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
11:03:55AM BUT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I WAS ROBBED FIVE TIMES.
11:04:03AM YOU GET KIND OF NOT USED TO IT BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK
11:04:08AM ABOUT THAT.
11:04:10AM RECENTLY, I WITNESSED A PERSON IN THE ALLEY TALKING ON THE
11:04:18AM PHONE LOOKING AROUND, AND WHAT IT TURNED OUT TO BE WAS
11:04:23AM SOMEBODY WAS WAITING FOR A RIDE IN THE ALLEY.
11:04:27AM I CALLED THE POLICE, BUT BY THE TIME -- I DON'T EVEN THINK
11:04:31AM THEY REALLY RESPONDED.
11:04:37AM I WASN'T GOING TO CONFRONT THE PERSON.
11:04:39AM I WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE WISE.
11:04:41AM THAT KIND OF LIKE SETS THE TONE, AND THAT WAS PRETTY
11:04:46AM RECENTLY.
11:04:48AM WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ROBBERIES AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:04:53AM THE ALLEY JUST SERVES AS AN ACCESS TO FACILITATE MOVEMENT
11:04:59AM WITH KIND OF NOT REAL GOOD PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE.
11:05:03AM BUT IN THIS WHOLE TIME, NO ONE HAS EVER REALLY USED THE
11:05:07AM ALLEY.
11:05:08AM SO OUR FEELING IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BLOCK IT OFF TO JUST
11:05:12AM STOP PEOPLE FROM THE NOT-SO-GREAT PEOPLE.
11:05:18AM WITH THE ECONOMY THE WAY IT IS NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A
11:05:23AM PROPENSITY FOR NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY, STEALING ITEMS, HOCKING
11:05:29AM THEM, SELLING THEM, JUST WHATEVER THEY CAN GET THEIR HANDS
11:05:32AM ON.
11:05:33AM THAT'S THE REASONING WHY WE WANT TO ABANDON THE ALLEY.
11:05:41AM JUST CLOSE IT OFF AND STOP THAT ACTIVITY.
11:05:44AM ONLY RECENTLY THERE'S BEEN ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS CLEARED THE
11:05:50AM ALLEY, BUT LIKE I SAID, NO ONE HAS BEEN IN THAT ALLEY SINCE
11:05:55AM THE TURN OF THE CENTURY.
11:05:56AM SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION
11:06:02AM FOR SOMEBODY TO START CLEARING IT NOW.
11:06:04AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:06:05AM ANYWAY, THAT'S MY DESIRE.
11:06:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID YOU ARE ONE OF THE FOUR OWNER
11:06:11AM APPLICANTS?
11:06:12AM >> YES.
11:06:12AM I'M 4107.
11:06:15AM YOU CALLED OUT THAT ADDRESS.
11:06:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU ANOTHER OWNER, SIR?
11:06:18AM >> YES.
11:06:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:06:20AM >> MY NAME IS NICK WHITTLE.
11:06:22AM I LIVE AT 4106 NORTH LYNN AVENUE.
11:06:26AM SO I'M ON BASICALLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY.
11:06:31AM ALL FOUR HOUSEHOLDS ON THE ALLEY WANT TO CLOSE THE ALLEY.
11:06:36AM BASICALLY, THE ALLEY DOES NOT GO THROUGH.
11:06:41AM IT'S TWO BLOCKS.
11:06:42AM SO NORTH OF -- LIKE EAST OF ME IT GOES ONE BLOCK AND THEN IT
11:06:46AM GOES ONE BLOCK ALONG MY PROPERTY.
11:06:50AM SO YOU CANNOT GET TO ANY MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THE
11:06:54AM ALLEY.
11:06:58AM BASICALLY, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE ALLEY TO BE OPEN.
11:07:03AM THERE'S REALLY NO PUBLIC USE FOR IT.
11:07:06AM AND WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF BIKE THEFTS AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT
11:07:08AM STASHING STOLEN BICYCLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE ALLEY.
11:07:10AM IT IS A BASIC SECURITY RISK, AND I PARK MY CAR ON THE ALLEY
11:07:14AM SO IT'S EASILY AVAILABLE FOR SOMEBODY TO COME UP FROM
11:07:17AM CLEARFIELD WHERE MR. THACH LIVES AND GET TO MY CAR OR MY
11:07:22AM PROPERTY.
11:07:23AM ALL OF THEIR BACKYARDS OR SIDE YARDS ARE ON THE ALLEY.
11:07:28AM SO IT GIVES ACCESS TO CRIMINALS OR WHATEVER TO COME UP
11:07:32AM THERE.
11:07:33AM AS I SAID, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REASON FOR THE ALLEY TO BE
11:07:37AM OPEN.
11:07:37AM SO I ANTICIPATE AN OBJECTION FROM MR. MOLL AND HIS LAWYER,
11:07:48AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.
11:07:49AM SO WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME, THE ALLEY UP UNTIL THE END OF MY
11:07:54AM PROPERTY TO ALMOST THE END IS USED AS A DRIVEWAY FOR MYSELF
11:07:58AM AND MY NEIGHBOR ON THE NORTH AT 4108.
11:08:03AM BEHIND THAT WAS COMPLETELY OVERGROWN.
11:08:06AM THERE WAS A TINY PATHWAY GOING THROUGH IT.
11:08:09AM WELL, WHAT HAPPENED WAS MYSELF FROM PATRICK GORE, WHO I
11:08:15AM BELIEVE WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK THROUGH ZOOM, FILED COMPLAINTS
11:08:18AM AGAINST MR. MOLL ABOUT HIS NUMEROUS CODE VIOLATIONS WHICH
11:08:23AM WENT TO A HEARING AND HE LOST.
11:08:24AM SINCE THEN, HE TRIED THEN TO GET THE CITY TO CLEAR THE
11:08:29AM ALLEY, WENT IN THERE HIMSELF, CHOPPED A BUNCH OF STUFF DOWN
11:08:34AM AND LEFT THE DEBRIS IN THE ALLEY.
11:08:36AM BASICALLY, MR. MOLL IS GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST THE CLOSE --
11:08:42AM VACATING ALLEY.
11:08:43AM IT'S BASICALLY RETALIATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING ON
11:08:47AM HIM.
11:08:48AM AND ACTUALLY, THE HOUSE AT 4108, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF ME,
11:08:54AM MR. MOLL OWNED THAT PROPERTY AS A RENTAL PROPERTY WHEN I
11:08:59AM MOVED IN.
11:09:00AM HE OWNED THAT PROPERTY FROM '76 TO 2006, AND HE LET THE
11:09:06AM ALLEY GET OVERGROWN.
11:09:07AM SO WHEN HE OWNED THAT PROPERTY ON THE ALLEY, HE HAD NO
11:09:12AM INTEREST IN CLEARING OUT THE ALLEY.
11:09:14AM HE HAD NO INTEREST IN IT IN THE 23 YEARS I LIVED THERE UNTIL
11:09:21AM THERE WERE COMPLAINTS AND CODE VIOLATIONS AGAINST HIS
11:09:24AM PROPERTY FOR CODE VIOLATIONS.
11:09:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:09:27AM SIR, ARE YOU ANOTHER APPLICANT?
11:09:28AM ARE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:09:31AM >> YES.
11:09:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'LL COME AFTER ONLINE.
11:09:33AM I HAVE TWO MORE INDIVIDUALS.
11:09:34AM PATRICK GORE AND MIKE LEONE.
11:09:37AM PATRICK GORE, IF YOU ARE ON, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN,
11:09:40AM IT'S NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
11:09:42AM GO AHEAD AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:09:44AM ARE THEY BOTH ON?
11:09:45AM ALL RIGHT.
11:09:46AM MR. GORE, YOU WILL BE THE ONLY ONE.
11:09:48AM THEN I'LL GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:09:52AM AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE REBUTTAL.
11:09:54AM MR. GORE, IF YOU ARE ON.
11:09:56AM >> YES, I AM.
11:09:57AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:09:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:09:59AM PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
11:10:00AM THERE YOU GO.
11:10:01AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
11:10:02AM >> MY NAME IS PATRICK GORE.
11:10:04AM I'M A RESIDENT OF 511 WEST NORTH BAY STREET, ONE OF THE
11:10:11AM APPLICANTS FOR VACATING THE ALLEY.
11:10:14AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
11:10:17AM GIVE ME ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
11:10:26AM CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
11:10:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:10:33AM >> CAN YOU SEE A PRESENTATION?
11:10:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.
11:10:35AM WE SEE YOUR MAIN DESKTOP.
11:10:37AM BUT OPEN UP THE PRESENTATION.
11:10:40AM >> LET ME MOVE IT OVER THEN.
11:10:42AM GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
11:10:43AM GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
11:10:51AM WELL, I GUESS THIS IS NOT GOING TO COOPERATE WITH ME TODAY.
11:10:57AM I'LL JUST READ OFF OF THIS.
11:11:01AM I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF 511 WEST NORTH BAY STREET OR A
11:11:07AM RESIDENT OF THAT ALLEY.
11:11:09AM MR. WHITTLE -- I OWN THE HOUSE.
11:11:13AM PREVIOUSLY SOLD IT TO MR. WHITTLE.
11:11:15AM I NOW LIVE AT 511 NORTH BAY STREET SINCE 2000.
11:11:20AM I'VE BEEN ON THIS ALLEY FOR COLLECTIVELY ALMOST 27 YEARS.
11:11:25AM IN THAT TIME, AS I WOULD AGREE, IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH MR.
11:11:32AM THACH AND MR. WHITTLE, THERE HAS BEEN NO USE OF THIS ALLEY
11:11:36AM WHATSOEVER, EXCEPT FOR INDIVIDUALS BASICALLY UP TO NO GOOD.
11:11:41AM SO WE HAVE, AS SOMEBODY WHO IS A THIRD GENERATION TAMPANO, I
11:11:48AM HAVE EXTENDED FAMILY IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:11:50AM FATHER LIVES TWO HOUSES DOWN, MOTHER LIVES THREE BLOCKS
11:11:54AM OVER.
11:11:54AM MY SISTER LIVES ACROSS FROM MR. WHITTLE.
11:11:59AM WE HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED CRIME RELATED TO THIS ALLEY
11:12:03AM FACILITATING EASY ACCESS, CUTTING THROUGH THERE AND PEOPLE
11:12:08AM BEING ABLE TO HIDE IN THERE AND ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
11:12:12AM DURING THAT TIME, WE HAVE MAINTAINED THAT ALLEY.
11:12:17AM WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT.
11:12:19AM AND WE'VE ALSO HAD HISTORICAL INTEREST IN ASKING TO VACATE
11:12:24AM IT FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY REASONS.
11:12:27AM IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
11:12:29AM YOU TALK ABOUT IT AND TALK ABOUT IT.
11:12:30AM AN ISSUE HAPPENS, AND YOU TALK ABOUT IT AND WE'VE RECENTLY
11:12:35AM HAD A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT GALVANIZED TO US TAKE ACTION.
11:12:40AM THANK YOU, MR. THACH, FOR LEADING THE CHARGE THERE.
11:12:42AM AGAIN, RECAPPING THE RATIONALE FOR APPROVING OUR REQUEST IS
11:12:48AM THE ALLEY FACILITATES CRIME.
11:12:50AM THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THE ALLEY IS MOOT.
11:12:52AM IT'S NOT BEEN IN USE BY THE CITY IN ANY WAY.
11:12:57AM PROPERTY, ALL FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT
11:13:02AM OF THIS AND BORDERING PROPERTY OWNERS ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY
11:13:09AM FOR TAKING CARE OF THE ALLEY OR TAKING CARE OF THAT PROPERTY
11:13:13AM IF IT IS VACATED.
11:13:15AM IN THE -- AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ALSO GAINS TAX INCOME.
11:13:19AM AT THIS MOMENT, IT'S NOT IN USE.
11:13:21AM WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE -- WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE OVER
11:13:26AM RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
11:13:27AM AND AT THAT POINT WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES ON IT.
11:13:32AM THAT SHOULD BENEFIT THE CITY.
11:13:33AM I PLEASE ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST.
11:13:40AM APPROVING THIS REQUEST MAKES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER.
11:13:42AM APPROVING THIS REQUEST REDUCES CRIME.
11:13:44AM APPROVING THIS REQUEST INCREASES TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY AND
11:13:48AM APPROVING THIS REQUEST PROVIDES PEACE OF MIND TO THOSE
11:13:52AM RESIDENTS AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
11:13:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.
11:14:00AM I APPRECIATE YOU.
11:14:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:01AM THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THOSE ARE
11:14:06AM THE OWNER APPLICANTS THAT WERE PRESENT.
11:14:08AM WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE
11:14:11AM REGISTERED ONLINE.
11:14:12AM I KNOW MR. MOLL IS HERE IN PERSON.
11:14:16AM WE'LL START WITH TERESA GOLDBERG.
11:14:18AM IS SHE ONLINE?
11:14:19AM >> SHE IS AND THE ONLY ONE ONLINE.
11:14:21AM >> I AM.
11:14:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TERESA GOLDBERG, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:14:24AM GO AHEAD.
11:14:25AM >> SORRY.
11:14:25AM MY CAMERA IS UNABLE TO WORK.
11:14:27AM MY NAME IS TERESA GOLDBERG.
11:14:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
11:14:30AM WE NEED YOUR CAMERA ON FIRST.
11:14:33AM >> IT'S TELLING ME -- HOLD ON.
11:14:36AM YES.
11:14:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
11:14:38AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:14:39AM >> TERESA GOLDBERG.
11:14:40AM RESIDENT OF SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND HOMEOWNER IN VERY
11:14:43AM CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE ALLEY WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY.
11:14:45AM MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON TODAY
11:14:49AM DUE TO WORK COMMITMENTS.
11:14:50AM I SUPPORT THE PETITION TO CLOSE THIS ALLEY FOR A NUMBER OF
11:14:53AM REASONS.
11:14:54AM THE USES FOR WHICH THE ALLEY HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED HAS SINCE
11:14:57AM BECOME UNNECESSARY OVER THE DECADES.
11:14:59AM EACH OF THE SURROUNDING HOMES HAVE DESIGNATED EGRESS AND
11:15:01AM INGRESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
11:15:03AM THERE ARE ADEQUATE STREETS ON THE NORTH CLEARFIELD AND NORTH
11:15:06AM LYNN SIDE FOR HOMEOWNERS, PEDESTRIANS AND OTHERS TO USE.
11:15:09AM THE ALLEY HAS BECOME A CONCERN DUE TO CRIME, VAGRANT AND
11:15:16AM DRUG USERS HANGING OUT IN THE ALLEY, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT,
11:15:19AM WHICH POSES A SERIOUS DANGER TO HOMEOWNERS, PEDESTRIANS, AND
11:15:22AM CHILDREN AT PLAY.
11:15:23AM IF THE PEDESTRIANS USE THE ALLEY, IT IS UNPAVED AND UNLIT,
11:15:26AM WHICH IS A CONCERN FOR SAFETY AND INJURIES.
11:15:29AM NO ONE HAS USED THE ALLEY IN THE SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN A
11:15:31AM HOMEOWNER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:15:33AM THE ALLEY WAS OVERGROWN AT SOME POINT AND HAD BEEN CUT DOWN,
11:15:37AM CAUSING IT TO BECOME A PLACE FOR CRIME, VAGRANT, DRUG USE
11:15:44AM AND THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US.
11:15:46AM IF THE ALLEY IS USED FOR THRU TRAFFIC, THAT WILL RAISE EVEN
11:15:50AM MORE CONCERNS AS THE ALLEY IS NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE
11:15:52AM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AS IT IS APPROXIMATELY 11 FEET WIDE, IT
11:15:57AM CANNOT HANDLE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC AND ANY TRAFFIC WILL POSE A
11:15:59AM SIGNIFICANT DANGER TO PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS AND CHILDREN AT
11:16:02AM PLAY.
11:16:02AM IT IS FOR THESE REASONS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL
11:16:05AM APPROVE THE PETITION TO CLOSE THIS ALLEY TO ENSURE THE
11:16:09AM INTEGRITY AND SAFETY OF SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.
11:16:12AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GRANT THE PETITION TO CLOSE
11:16:14AM THE ALLEY TO THE PUBLIC.
11:16:15AM YOU SHOULD ALSO HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF CLOSING
11:16:18AM THE ALLEY FROM NUMEROUS RESIDENTS SURROUNDING THIS ALLEY IN
11:16:23AM QUESTION THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY E-MAIL.
11:16:25AM I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER YOUR DECISION.
11:16:28AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:16:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:16:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:30AM THAT CONCLUDES THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
11:16:32AM IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 86, PLEASE
11:16:35AM COME UP.
11:16:36AM YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:16:37AM WHOEVER WISHES TO KICK IT OFF.
11:16:39AM YES, SIR.
11:16:41AM GOOD MORNING.
11:16:42AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:16:43AM >> MY NAME IS BRIT MASSING.
11:16:45AM I LIVE ON CLEARFIELD AVENUE ACROSS AND ABOUT A HALF A LOT
11:16:52AM OVER FROM WHERE INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THE ALLEY IS COMING
11:16:55AM ONTO CLEARFIELD SAVE.
11:16:57AM I'M IN SUPPORT OF CLOSING THE ALLEY.
11:17:02AM IN THE TWO YEARS THAT WE HAVE LIVED THERE, WE HAVE NOT
11:17:06AM WITNESSED ANY NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY USING THE ALLEY FOR
11:17:10AM ANYTHING.
11:17:10AM IT IS BEING USED BY OUR TRANSIENT POPULATION TO LIVE AND
11:17:15AM SCOPE OUT POTENTIAL CRIMES AND THEFT.
11:17:18AM I KNOW THIS BECAUSE ON DECEMBER 12th OF '23, OUR HOUSE, WE
11:17:26AM FELL VICTIM TO A DOUBLE BIKE THEFT WHILE MY WIFE WAS AT HOME
11:17:31AM IN THE HOUSE.
11:17:32AM THE CRIMINAL CAME INTO OUR GARAGE, STOLE A MOUNTAIN BIKE AND
11:17:40AM TOOK OFF.
11:17:40AM WE HAVE VIDEO FROM OUR SECURITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL COMING IN,
11:17:44AM OF THE INDIVIDUAL COMING OUT OF THE GARAGE.
11:17:48AM SURPRISINGLY THEN THERE WAS VIDEO 20 MINUTES LATER OF THE
11:17:53AM SAME INDIVIDUAL COMING BACK INTO OUR GARAGE, TAKING ANOTHER
11:17:59AM BIKE, LEAVING WITH THE BIKE, AGAIN, WHILE MY WIFE WAS AT
11:18:04AM HOME.
11:18:04AM I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED IF SHE WALKED OUT
11:18:11AM INTO THE GARAGE DURING ONE OF THESE TIMES.
11:18:13AM SO WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT 20 MINUTES, THE INDIVIDUAL SOLD
11:18:18AM THE BIKE THAT HAS A RETAIL VALUE OF APPROXIMATELY $3,000 TO
11:18:22AM MR. MOLL, OUR NEIGHBOR, FOR $10.
11:18:26AM LATER THAT NIGHT, SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS SAW THE SAME
11:18:30AM INDIVIDUAL BREAKING INTO MR. MULL'S CAR.
11:18:34AM THE PERSON DID GET AWAY THAT EVENING, BUT THEY CALLED ME
11:18:37AM OVER BECAUSE MR. MOLL STATED THAT HE HAD BOUGHT A BIKE FROM
11:18:41AM THAT INDIVIDUAL EARLIER IN THE DAY FOR $10.
11:18:44AM THAT MR. MOLL PROCEEDED TO TELL ME HE CALLED REI EARLIER
11:18:49AM THAT DAY TO TRY TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH THE BIKE WAS WORTH.
11:18:52AM WE LITERALLY HAD TO HAVE THE COPS HAVE HIM GO IN AND BRING
11:18:55AM THE BIKE OUT FOR ME TO SAY, USE THE CASE NUMBER, ET CETERA.
11:19:00AM LUCKILY BECAUSE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE OF TAMPA POLICE,
11:19:05AM WE DID GET BOTH OF THE BIKES BACK, BUT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
11:19:11AM I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY USE THIS ALLEY FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT
11:19:15AM FOR NO GOOD.
11:19:17AM WE ARE ABSOLUTELY IN APPROVAL OF HAVING THIS CLOSED OFF.
11:19:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:19:25AM NEXT SPEAKER, SIR.
11:19:27AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:19:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:19:35AM HAROLD HOLDER WITH BUSCH ROSS, 1801 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE
11:19:39AM HERE ON BEHALF OF JOHN MOLL.
11:19:42AM MR. MOLL IS THE RESIDENT OF 4104 NORTH LYNN AVENUE, WHICH
11:19:50AM I'M TRYING TO --
11:19:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S COMING UP.
11:19:53AM >> THE ALLEY THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CLOSE IS HERE IN YELLOW.
11:19:56AM HIS HOME IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
11:19:58AM IT'S BEEN IN THE MOLL FAMILY FOR ABOUT 125 YEARS.
11:20:03AM THE CITY CODE SECTION 22-36 REQUIRES THE APPLICATION TO
11:20:12AM STATE THE REASON FOR THE ALLEY TO BE CLOSED.
11:20:15AM IN THIS CASE, THE PETITIONER STATED REASON IS THAT THE ALLEY
11:20:22AM IS NO LONGER IN PUBLIC USE.
11:20:25AM AND SAYS IT IS USED BY ONE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER.
11:20:28AM THE CONCEPT OF THE ALLEY IS NO LONGER IN PUBLIC USE IS
11:20:33AM SIMPLY FALSE.
11:20:36AM I HAVE A LETTER FROM A LOCAL NEIGHBOR, MR. CAVANAUGH, WHO IS
11:20:41AM A RESIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1965, SAYS I WALK THIS
11:20:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD FREQUENTLY AND USE THE ALLEY DESIGNATED.
11:20:48AM HE REFERENCES THIS CASE NUMBER OFTEN.
11:20:51AM CONCERNS ME THAT THE ALLEY WILL BE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.
11:20:53AM CONSIDER ME AN OPPONENT TO YOUR PLANS TO CLOSE THIS AREA.
11:20:56AM I'M NOT ALONE IN THIS CASE.
11:20:58AM MANY PEOPLE WALK IN THIS AREA AND USE THIS ALLEY.
11:21:00AM WHY MUST IT BE CLOSED?
11:21:02AM I PERSONALLY SEE NO REASON.
11:21:03AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:21:04AM ALSO, MR. MOLL WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO TESTIFY ABOUT HOW HE
11:21:09AM USES THE ALLEY TO WALK.
11:21:11AM THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO USE THE ALLEY TO WALK.
11:21:13AM MR. MOLL IS KNOWN BY THE SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC
11:21:17AM ASSOCIATION WEB PAGE AS LOCAL LEGEND.
11:21:20AM CHAMPION OF SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:21:22AM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU WAS FOR A PROJECT WHERE
11:21:25AM THEY WERE TRYING TO INCREASE DENSITY THERE AND BUILD UP TO
11:21:28AM EIGHT-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WAS OPPOSED AND
11:21:30AM ULTIMATELY THIS COUNCIL AGREED.
11:21:32AM NOT TO INCREASE THE DENSITY THERE.
11:21:35AM I'LL PUT UP A CASE THAT'S RONNIE INVESTMENT COMPANY INC.
11:21:40AM VERSUS CITY OF MIAMI BEACH FROM THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT IN
11:21:43AM 1937, 127 FLORIDA 773 IS THE CITE.
11:21:49AM STANDS FOR THE PROPOSITION THAT WHEN CLOSING AN ALLEY, IT
11:21:52AM MUST BE DONE WITH REGARD TO THE RIGHTS AND NECESSITIES OF
11:21:55AM THE PUBLIC.
11:21:55AM CAN'T SIMPLY BE THAT THE FOUR PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR THE ALLEY
11:21:58AM DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
11:21:59AM THE CITY COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER THE PUBLIC'S NEEDS AND
11:22:03AM RIGHTS.
11:22:04AM THE IDEA THAT CRIMINALS WILL SEE THIS ALLEY, WHICH, BY THE
11:22:10AM WAY, BOTH OF THE TWO HOMEOWNERS NEED THE ALLEY TO STAY OPEN
11:22:14AM SO THEY CAN GET TO THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND PARK.
11:22:17AM IF A FUTURE HOMEOWNER DECIDED TO STOP THAT, THERE WOULD BE
11:22:21AM MORE PARKING OUT ON THE STREETS.
11:22:23AM THIS CONCEPT THAT THIS IS GOING TO REMAIN OPEN AND THE
11:22:28AM CRIMINAL IS GOING TO LOOK DOWN THAT DRIVEWAY AND SAY, OH,
11:22:31AM THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC ALLEY ANYMORE, SOMEONE THAT'S WILLING TO
11:22:34AM COMMIT A CRIME IS GOING TO BE WILLING TO GO INTO THE ALLEY.
11:22:40AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY KEEP THIS ALLEY OPEN
11:22:42AM FOR THE USE OF THE PUBLIC.
11:22:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:22:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, DID YOU WANT ANY OF THAT, ANYTHING
11:22:49AM PLACED INTO THE RECORD?
11:22:50AM >> SURE.
11:22:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:53AM MR. MOLL.
11:22:54AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
11:23:04AM >> THE NAME IS JOHN MOLL.
11:23:06AM 4104 NORTH LYNN AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33603-3421.
11:23:18AM THE SAME THING YOU SAW ON THE ELMO.
11:23:20AM IS IT UP THERE NOW?
11:23:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, WE CAN SEE IT.
11:23:23AM >> YES, IT IS.
11:23:24AM ALL RIGHT.
11:23:25AM I MOVED HERE IN 1951, AND MY PARENTS BOUGHT THE HOUSE HERE.
11:23:34AM SO I'VE BEEN USING THAT ALLEY FOR OVER 70 YEARS AS WELL AS
11:23:42AM OTHER PEOPLE WHO USE IT ALSO JUST BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE DON'T
11:23:47AM WALK THE ALLEY DOESN'T MEAN THE PUBLIC HASN'T WALKED IT.
11:23:50AM THEY ARE PROBABLY WATCHING THEIR TV INSIDE AND DON'T SEE
11:23:53AM WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE.
11:23:55AM I DO MY CONSTITUTIONAL EVERY MORNING TRYING TO MAINTAIN MY
11:23:59AM MOBILITY.
11:24:02AM IN FACT, I JUST WALKED THAT ALLEY TODAY EXERCISING MY
11:24:07AM CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:24:10AM AS YOU GO ON AROUND HERE, THIS ONE HERE, THIS JUST SPOKE, HE
11:24:18AM USES THE ALLEY EVERY DAY TO DRIVE HIS CAR BACK TO PARK IT IN
11:24:21AM THE ALLEY.
11:24:22AM HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO.
11:24:23AM BEEN TOLD HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK IN THE ALLEY BUT HE
11:24:25AM CONTINUES TO DO SO.
11:24:27AM ON THE OTHER SIDE, MIKE, THINK SUPPOSED TO TALK TO HIM BY
11:24:35AM ZOOM.
11:24:35AM HE WANTS AN AIRBNB THERE.
11:24:37AM HE DOESN'T EVEN LIVE ON THE PROPERTY AND HIS AIRBNB
11:24:41AM CUSTOMERS COME AND USE THE ALLEY TO GET TO THE CARPORT WHERE
11:24:44AM HIS RENTAL IS.
11:24:45AM IT'S IN USE EVERY DAY.
11:24:48AM THIS ONE HERE WAS CHRIS WHO WAS THE APPLICANT.
11:24:53AM JUST THE OTHER DAY, I WAS IN THE ALLEY TRYING TO KEEP IT
11:24:57AM CLEAN SO YOU CAN WALK TO IT.
11:24:58AM AND HE TALKED TO ME AND ASKED ME IF I WAS GOING TO PARK
11:25:01AM THERE.
11:25:02AM I SAID FOR A LITTLE WHILE, CLEANED UP.
11:25:05AM I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN AS A RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE PEOPLE WHO
11:25:11AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE YOU JUST HEARD TODAY, WOULD COME,
11:25:15AM HE READ ABOUT IT, WALK AND ENJOY, WALKING ON NOT ASPHALT.
11:25:21AM I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE HERE.
11:25:28AM YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE PEOPLE TALKING, THEY THINK THIS IS
11:25:32AM THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AND IT'S ALREADY CLOSED.
11:25:35AM SO WHEN DID THIS STOP BEING USED FOR THE PUBLIC?
11:25:41AM IT'S STILL IN USE.
11:25:42AM IT'S BEEN THAT USE FOR 120 YEARS.
11:25:44AM I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WALKING THERE TOMORROW.
11:25:47AM THANK YOU.
11:25:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:25:49AM ALL RIGHT.
11:25:50AM AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
11:25:53AM I KNOW THERE WERE MULTIPLE APPLICANTS.
11:25:55AM BUT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A REBUTTAL, PLEASE STAY WITHIN
11:25:59AM THE FIVE MINUTES.
11:26:00AM WHO WISHES TO REBUT, IF THERE IS ANY?
11:26:03AM WAIT, COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME IN THE MICROPHONE.
11:26:07AM >> MY NAME IS NICK WHITTLE.
11:26:10AM HE POINTED OUT MY PROPERTY.
11:26:12AM LIKE I SAID, UNTIL SUMMER OF LAST YEAR, YOU COULDN'T GET
11:26:17AM THROUGH THAT ALLEY BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
11:26:19AM THERE WAS A TINY LITTLE PATH THROUGH THAT ALLEY.
11:26:23AM MR. MOLL ONLY, HE WENT IN AND CLEARED THAT ALLEY.
11:26:27AM HE DID IT IN RETALIATION FOR FILING CODE VIOLATIONS.
11:26:33AM HE HAD NO INTEREST IN THAT ALLEY BEFORE LAST SUMMER.
11:26:37AM AND AS I SAID, HE OWNED THE PROPERTY WHICH MICHAEL LEONE NOW
11:26:43AM OWNS.
11:26:43AM WHEN I MOVED IN, THAT ALLEY WAS OVERGROWN.
11:26:47AM THERE WAS A LITTLE PATHWAY LIKE THAT THROUGH IT.
11:26:50AM HE NEVER USED IT AND HE LET THE ALLEY GET OVERGROWN BECAUSE
11:26:56AM HE WAS AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY ON THE ALLEY.
11:26:59AM SO THIS WHOLE THING FROM HIM IS PURELY RETALIATION, AND I
11:27:04AM DON'T KNOW WHO THIS OTHER GUY IS, BUT I RETIRED.
11:27:08AM I'M A RETIRED ATTORNEY.
11:27:09AM I SIT ON MY PORCH ALL THE TIME.
11:27:12AM NO MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC EVER GO DOWN THAT ALLEY.
11:27:17AM AS REGARDS THE ALLEY, MYSELF, MIKE LEONE ARE GOING TO DO AN
11:27:23AM EASEMENT SO WE CAN EACH USE IT AS A DRIVEWAY.
11:27:26AM BEHIND THAT PROPERTY, MR. THACH AND MR. GORE ARE GOING TO
11:27:33AM CLOSE THE ALLEY.
11:27:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:38AM IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL?
11:27:39AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO
11:27:42AM CLOSE?
11:27:42AM OH, MR. GORE, THERE'S STILL TIME LEFT IN THE FIVE-MINUTE
11:27:53AM REBUTTAL.
11:27:54AM MR. GORE, ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY OR ADD?
11:27:56AM PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
11:27:59AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:28:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:28:01AM WE NEED TO BRING HIM UP ON THE SCREEN.
11:28:03AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:28:04AM >> AGAIN, THIS IS PATRICK GORE.
11:28:06AM I'M ONE OF THE APPLICANTS.
11:28:09AM AND I WOULD ECHO WHAT MR. WHITTLE SAID.
11:28:12AM IN ADDITION TO THE FACT WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF
11:28:17AM RIGHT-OF-WAY, CURRENTLY MR. MOLL HAS BEEN FOUND IN VIOLATION
11:28:23AM OF OBSTRUCTING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG HIS PROPERTY LINE ON
11:28:30AM LYNN AVENUE AND WEST NORTH BAY STREET.
11:28:32AM AND IS CURRENTLY IN ARREARS.
11:28:34AM THE CITY HAS PUT A LIEN ON HIS PROPERTY BECAUSE HE'S
11:28:38AM OBSTRUCTING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH JUNK AND DEBRIS.
11:28:41AM I DON'T KNOW WHY HE IS NOW MOTIVATED TO COME POKE AROUND
11:28:45AM BEHIND MY HOUSE, INVADE MY PRIVACY, LURKING AROUND THERE ALL
11:28:50AM THE TIME.
11:28:54AM IT'S -- ANYWAY, THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE RESPECTFULLY
11:29:00AM REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE OUR PETITION TO VACATE THIS, GIVE
11:29:06AM US SOME PEACE OF MIND AND HELP US GET -- SECURE THIS AREA SO
11:29:13AM WE CAN HAVE SOME PEACE OF MIND AND SAFETY IN OUR HOME.
11:29:16AM THANK YOU.
11:29:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:19AM YES, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:29:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR CITY STAFF, CAN YOU REMIND US WHOSE
11:29:24AM RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO MAINTAIN AND CLEAN ALLEYS?
11:29:33AM >> I DON'T KNOW THE CODE LANGUAGE ITSELF.
11:29:36AM ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:29:38AM IT IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ABUTTING THE ALLEY TO THE
11:29:42AM CENTER LINE.
11:29:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:29:44AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:29:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:29:45AM IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:29:48AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:29:50AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:29:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:29:52AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:29:54AM WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO READ 86.
11:29:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL TAKE IT.
11:29:58AM AND MAKE STATEMENTS FIRST.
11:30:00AM ONE, SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD DISPUTES, MORE
11:30:03AM THAN ABOUT THE ISSUE OF CLOSING AN ALLEY.
11:30:05AM FOR THOSE OF YOU ALL PAYING ATTENTION, CITY OF TAMPA VALUES
11:30:11AM ITS ALLEY SYSTEM.
11:30:12AM WE TRY TO RETAIN THAT.
11:30:15AM IT'S NOT ABOUT, WE MAKE THESE LAND USE DECISIONS, IT'S NOT
11:30:18AM NECESSARILY ABOUT THE CURRENT LAND USE BUT IT'S ABOUT THE
11:30:21AM FUTURE LAND USE BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY ON THIS PLANET A SHORT
11:30:24AM PERIOD OF TIME.
11:30:24AM SOMEBODY ELSE WILL COME ALONG AND OCCUPY THESE HOUSES AND
11:30:27AM DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY RIGHTS AND THOROUGHFARE FOR FUTURE
11:30:31AM LANDOWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES AS WELL.
11:30:33AM I'M GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THE VACATING.
11:30:38AM I MOVE TO DENY FILE VAC-24-01.
11:30:42AM I THOUGHT WE CLOSED THE HEARING.
11:30:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:30:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS SAID, REALLY RUNG TRUE, SUPREME
11:30:53AM COURT CASE SUBMITTED INTO EVIDENCE.
11:30:56AM I BELIEVE MARTY TOOK THAT, ABOUT THE GREATER GOOD FOR THE
11:30:59AM CITY AND WHAT THE CITY HAS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN
11:31:02AM WE VACATE THOSE ALLEYS.
11:31:03AM IT DOESN'T SERVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST IN
11:31:10AM APPROVING THE VACATING OF THIS PETITION BECAUSE, ONCE AGAIN,
11:31:14AM FOR URBAN PLANNING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE'RE TRYING TO
11:31:17AM ACTIVATE AND UTILIZE THESE ALLEYS.
11:31:19AM SO AS WE DEVELOP AND REDEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE'RE
11:31:22AM TRYING TO ACTIVATE THESE ALLEYS.
11:31:23AM ELIMINATE ON-STREET PARKING, PROVIDE ACCESS TO GARAGES IN
11:31:27AM THE BACK, WHICH SHOWS IN THOSE PICTURES WE JUST SAW THE
11:31:32AM CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY IS USED TO ACCESS GARAGES FROM
11:31:36AM THAT ALLEYWAY.
11:31:37AM SO ONCE AGAIN, MARTY, I KNOW YOU HANDED ME THIS.
11:31:42AM I MOVE TO DENY FILE VAC-24-01.
11:31:47AM THE APPLICANTS DID NOT SHOW A COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT THIS
11:31:54AM WAS IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA OR OUR
11:31:59AM URBAN PLANNING.
11:32:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
11:32:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:32:02AM CLENDENIN AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:32:05AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:32:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:32:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:32:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:32:15AM >> VIERA?
11:32:15AM MIRANDA?
11:32:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:32:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:32:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:32:22AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO
11:32:26AM AND VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE, TO MOVE TO DENY.
11:32:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:34AM NEXT WE HAVE TWO ITEMS.
11:32:35AM ITEM 89, AN E-MAIL REQUESTING THAT THE SAID PUBLIC HEARING
11:32:39AM BE RESCHEDULED.
11:32:41AM WE'LL GET TO THAT IF THERE IS A DATE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
11:32:45AM OH, IT IS A MISNOTICE.
11:32:46AM DO WE NEED A DATE OR MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT?
11:32:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S NOT EVEN CONTINUED.
11:32:53AM IF I CAN ASK LAND DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I
11:32:57AM BELIEVE -- IS THAT DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY, THE NOTICE?
11:32:59AM FOR THE HEARING?
11:33:07AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI.
11:33:08AM I WAS REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:33:09AM THE NOTICE WAS NEVER -- STEVE MICHELINI.
11:33:13AM I CAN SAY IT AGAIN.
11:33:15AM THE NOTICE WAS NEVER PERFECTED BECAUSE THEY COUNTED THE DAYS
11:33:21AM WHEN FEBRUARY, THE DATE SCREWED THEM UP.
11:33:26AM MISSED SENDING OUT THE NOTICE.
11:33:27AM WE'RE ASKING FOR A NEW HEARING DATE TO BE SET.
11:33:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY OR DONE BY
11:33:34AM CITY COUNCIL?
11:33:34AM IS THAT A CLERK QUESTION?
11:33:35AM IT'S A CLERK QUESTION.
11:33:38AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
11:33:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY 16 AT 10 A.M.
11:33:43AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE --
11:33:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT CONTINUED, SCHEDULED.
11:33:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SCHEDULE ITEM 89 FOR MAY 16, 10 A.M.,
11:33:51AM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:33:54AM IS THERE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
11:33:55AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:33:58AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:34:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:34:01AM AYE.
11:34:02AM WE'LL GO TO ITEM 87, REBECCA JOHNS IS HERE.
11:34:06AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:34:06AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:34:10AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:34:13AM THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
11:34:15AM AGREEMENT FOR UNIVERSITY PARK MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
11:34:18AM YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS
11:34:20AM PROVIDED TO YOU.
11:34:21AM THE ONLY CHANGE BETWEEN THE FIRST HEARING AND THE SECOND
11:34:24AM HEARING WAS THAT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN WAS UPDATED TO MATCH
11:34:27AM THE SITE PLAN.
11:34:28AM THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:34:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND THE
11:34:34AM DEVELOPER HERE.
11:34:35AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
11:34:37AM >> JIM SHIMBERG.
11:34:39AM YOU HEARD THIS PROJECT BEFORE.
11:34:40AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:34:41AM CLIENTS ARE HERE AS WELL.
11:34:43AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
11:34:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:34:45AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:34:47AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:34:49AM 87?
11:34:50AM SEEING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:34:53AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:34:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:34:57AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:34:57AM AYE.
11:34:58AM WHO DID I LEAVE OFF WITH?
11:35:01AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE SUBSTITUTE
11:35:05AM RESOLUTION FOR 87?
11:35:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST IN TIME.
11:35:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU.
11:35:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY APOLOGIES.
11:35:11AM MOVE A RESOLUTION APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN
11:35:14AM THE UNIVERSITY PARK MULTIFAMILY PROJECT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
11:35:17AM TAMPA AND SEMCO INVESTMENTS, LLC, RELATING TO THE PROPERTY
11:35:21AM LOCATED AT 4019, 4105, AND 4151 EAST FOWLER AVENUE IN THE
11:35:28AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA; AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION THEREOF BY
11:35:30AM THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:35:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE SUBSTITUTE.
11:35:35AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:37AM LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:35:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:35:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:35:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:35:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:35:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:35:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:35:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:35:47AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:35:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 88 IS ALSO A REVIEW HEARING.
11:35:53AM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO GO, BUT I WOULD
11:35:56AM RECOMMEND THAT WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AFTER THIS ITEM SO WE CAN
11:36:00AM GO RIGHT INTO THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE AND KICK IT OFF FROM
11:36:03AM THERE.
11:36:04AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
11:36:06AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:36:06AM I'M HERE ON ITEM 88, WHICH IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A
11:36:10AM CITY APPLICATION OF SU-1, 24-03 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
11:36:15AM 1014 EAST 31st AVENUE.
11:36:18AM THE PETITIONER OR THE AUTHORIZED AGENT IS MR. STEVE
11:36:22AM MICHELINI.
11:36:23AM HIS CLIENT MADE A REQUEST FROM THE CITY REGARDING AN
11:36:28AM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:36:30AM CITY STAFF DENIED THAT REQUEST ON JANUARY 5th OF 2024 ON
11:36:34AM THE BASIS THAT IT DID NOT MEET SEVERAL CRITERIA AS OUTLINED
11:36:37AM IN CODE SECTION 27-132, REGARDING THIS SPECIFIC USES IN THE
11:36:46AM CODE.
11:36:47AM CITY COUNCIL I PREVIOUSLY JUST GAVE OUT A SAMPLE MOTION,
11:36:51AM RULES OF PROCEDURE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS HEARING.
11:36:53AM CODE SECTION 27-61 WHICH GOVERNS HOW YOU CONDUCT REVIEW
11:36:58AM HEARINGS AND ALSO CODE SECTION 132 AND CODE SECTION DASH 129
11:37:03AM AND 130 ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS MATTER.
11:37:07AM ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION DASH 27-61 SUBSECTION J-3, CITY
11:37:13AM COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO DO A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING WHICH
11:37:16AM MEANS CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW INFORMATION REGARDING THIS
11:37:19AM MATTER.
11:37:20AM MR. ERIC COTTON IS HERE IN ORDER TO PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT
11:37:26AM REGARDING THIS MATTER AND WHY STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION.
11:37:30AM UPON HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE, CITY COUNCIL CAN
11:37:33AM TAKE TWO ACTIONS.
11:37:34AM CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
11:37:37AM ADMINISTRATOR WHO DENIED THE APPLICATION FOR THE SPECIAL USE
11:37:41AM FOR THIS PROPERTY OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION
11:37:45AM OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE APPROVE THE USE
11:37:49AM THAT IS ASKED FOR BY THE PETITIONER.
11:37:52AM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. COTTON FOR A FURTHER
11:37:56AM EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE APPLICATION IS AND WHY STAFF DENIED
11:37:59AM THE APPLICATION.
11:38:02AM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD MORNING.
11:38:03AM ERIC COTTON.
11:38:04AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:38:05AM CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OFFICE.
11:38:06AM I'LL JUST SHOW IT ON THE ELMO.
11:38:13AM CAN YOU SEE IT?
11:38:15AM AS MS. PETTIS-MACKLE WAS INDICATING, THIS WAS A REVIEW
11:38:20AM HEARING FOR A SPECIAL USE, SU1-24-03.
11:38:26AM THE PETITIONER IS STEVEN MICHELINI REPRESENTING J & R
11:38:30AM PROPERTIES OF BRANDON.
11:38:31AM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1014 EAST 31ST AVENUE.
11:38:31AM THE ZONING IS RS 50.
11:38:33AM THE APPLICANT WAS ASKING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:38:35AM THIS APPLICATION IS IN EAST TAMPA.
11:38:37AM EAST TAMPA WAS JUST APPROVED TO HAVE ACCESSORY DWELLING
11:38:39AM UNITS AS A SPECIAL USE.
11:38:41AM THE APPLICANT APPLIED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT REQUEST.
11:38:44AM THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP.
11:38:48AM YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINED IN A IN RED.
11:38:51AM THE PROPERTY LOCATION.
11:38:54AM AND ON THE FLIP SIDE IS THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
11:38:57AM SO THE APPLICATION WAS DENIED PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE --
11:39:01AM THERE ARE TWO REASONS IN THE CODE THAT IT WAS DENIED.
11:39:04AM ONE, IT'S IN A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:39:07AM THE CODE RIGHT NOW REQUIRES ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WHEN
11:39:10AM THEY COME IN TO BE IN A CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:39:13AM IF IT'S A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE, STAFF CAN'T WAIVE THE
11:39:16AM REQUIREMENT.
11:39:16AM WE HAVE TO DENY IT AT A STAFF LEVEL AND IT GOES TO CITY
11:39:19AM COUNCIL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OR DENIAL.
11:39:22AM THE OTHER REASON IS THE APPLICANT DOES NOT LIVE THERE.
11:39:25AM IT IS NOT OWNER OCCUPIED.
11:39:27AM ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA FOR THAT
11:39:31AM IS MAIN RESIDENCE HAS TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
11:39:34AM YOU HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE
11:39:37AM ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
11:39:38AM IT CAN BE IN THE SAME STRUCTURE LIKE IN THIS CASE LIKE A
11:39:40AM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USE OR DUPLEX KIND OF USE BUT
11:39:44AM THIS REQUIRES THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.
11:39:48AM TWO REASONS, NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE AND THE APPLICANT
11:39:51AM DOESN'T LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.
11:39:52AM THOSE ARE THE TWO REASONS FOR THE DENIAL.
11:39:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON?
11:39:57AM IS THAT THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION?
11:40:00AM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
11:40:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MICHELINI, YOU ARE THE APPLICANT,
11:40:04AM SIR.
11:40:05AM COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:40:07AM MR. SHELBY, YOU DIDN'T ASK IF WE HAD ANY EX PARTE
11:40:22AM COMMUNICATIONS TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:40:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK IF THERE ARE ANY.
11:40:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST TO KEEP THE RECORD CLEAN.
11:40:28AM ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
11:40:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAD COME IN.
11:40:34AM LET'S DO A MOTION ANYWAY TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
11:40:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:40:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:40:43AM THIS IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX PARTE WRITTEN DOCUMENTS.
11:40:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:40:46AM AYE.
11:40:47AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:40:48AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:40:50AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING JAVED GOHAR.
11:40:57AM HE'S HAD THIS PROPERTY AND IT WAS CITED FOR HAVING A DUPLEX.
11:41:04AM WE DID THE RESEARCH.
11:41:05AM WE WENT BACK IN THE POLK DIRECTORIES AND WE COULD FIND
11:41:10AM RECORDS BACK TO 1972 AND THE DIRECTORY INDICATING IT WAS A
11:41:13AM DUPLEX.
11:41:14AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE RECORDS BACK TO 1931 IN THE
11:41:18AM SANBORN MAP SHOWING IT WAS A DUPLEX.
11:41:21AM THERE ARE TWO MAILBOXES.
11:41:29AM THERE ARE TWO ELECTRIC METERS.
11:41:34AM THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE UNITS ARE 450 SQUARE FEET
11:41:43AM APPROXIMATELY EACH, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY DO QUALIFY, LESS
11:41:47AM THAN 950 SQUARE FEET.
11:41:49AM THE UNITS ARE BASICALLY DIVIDED LIKE THAT.
11:42:01AM THE ROOFLINE DIDN'T CHANGE.
11:42:06AM THEY HAVE TWO ENTRY DOORS THAT ARE IN THE FRONT.
11:42:17AM AND WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING BASICALLY THAT WE HAVE
11:42:22AM MET THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
11:42:26AM THIS IS THE DOCUMENT RELATED TO THE BUILDING BEING BUILT IN
11:42:33AM 1926.
11:42:34AM AGAIN, WE HAVE SANBORN MAP SHOWING IT WAS A DUPLEX AT LEAST
11:42:38AM AS EARLY AS 1931.
11:42:40AM THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES RELATED TO
11:42:46AM AND THE IMPACT FEE -- I MEAN THE ASSOCIATED FEES FOR WATER
11:42:51AM AND SEWER.
11:42:52AM THE FRANCHISE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRICITY, ALL SINCE AT
11:42:57AM LEAST AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL SINCE 1931.
11:43:01AM THE OTHER DUPLEX, OTHER DUPLEXES IN THE AREA, THE TWO SIZES
11:43:07AM ARE 464 FEET FOR UNIT A AND 450 SQUARE FEET FOR UNIT B.
11:43:12AM SEPARATE ENTRY DOORS, AS I SAID.
11:43:16AM THIS MAINTAINS AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING.
11:43:19AM IT PROVIDES, MAINTAINS AN ALTERNATE HOUSING PROVISION.
11:43:23AM IT DOCUMENTS THE EXISTENCE FOR AT LEAST 52 YEARS AND
11:43:28AM EARLIER, IF YOU ACCEPT THE SANBORN MAPS.
11:43:31AM THE CITY CODE REQUIRES YOU TO USE POLK DIRECTORIES.
11:43:34AM THE POLK DIRECTORIES ARE SKETCHY, EARLIER THAN 1972.
11:43:38AM WE ONLY HAD THE SANBORN MAPS WHICH VERIFY THAT EARLIER USE
11:43:43AM THAT ONLY BECAME AVAILABLE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
11:43:46AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE USE, AN EFFICIENT USE
11:43:53AM OF LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
11:43:56AM THE CONVERSION, IF THIS IS DENIED, CONVERTING IT BACK TO A
11:44:02AM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE WOULD BE EXTENSIVE AS THE WIRING IS
11:44:06AM ALREADY THERE FOR TWO METERS, SEPARATELY WITHIN THE HOUSE,
11:44:10AM AS WELL AS A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP FOR THE OWNER.
11:44:12AM THE NONCONFORMING USES OF THE TWO UNITS, AGAIN, THE CODE IS
11:44:21AM THERE.
11:44:22AM IN YOUR PACKET, ADDITIONALLY YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM THE
11:44:27AM ADJACENT NEIGHBOR WHO SAYS I AM THE NEIGHBOR.
11:44:32AM I'M GOING TO PARAPHRASE THIS.
11:44:34AM I'VE OWNED AND LIVED THERE ALMOST 25 YEARS, EVER SINCE I
11:44:37AM LIVED THERE I'VE SEEN MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AS A DUPLEX.
11:44:40AM I WISH TO EXPRESS MY OPINION.
11:44:41AM I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU AND THE AUTHORITIES TO NOT MAKE ANY
11:44:44AM CHANGES AND TO ALLOW THE TWO DWELLING UNITS TO REMAIN.
11:44:47AM AND HIS NAME AND ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.
11:44:50AM THIS IS THE SANBORN MAP, 1931.
11:44:58AM YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT I JUST GAVE TO YOU.
11:45:01AM AND THERE ARE OTHER UNITS, OTHER DUPLEXES IN THIS AREA.
11:45:11AM THIS IS IN EAST TAMPA ON 31st STREET.
11:45:14AM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE HAS IT LISTED IN THEIR
11:45:23AM PROPERTY HISTORY RECORDS AS BEING A DUPLEX AS FAR BACK AS
11:45:26AM THEY HAD HISTORY RECORDS THAT WE COULD DISCOVER.
11:45:29AM WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU VEST THE EXISTING USE AS-IS BASED ON
11:45:34AM THE INFORMATION WE PROVIDED.
11:45:37AM THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND SUPPORT IN THE
11:45:39AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CITE THE
11:45:44AM REFERENCES.
11:45:45AM CITY DESIGN LAND USE OBJECTIVE 1.2 CREATED AND INSPIRED
11:45:49AM URBAN DESIGN WHILE RESPECTING TAMPA'S HUMAN SCALE, UNIQUE
11:45:52AM HISTORY, AESTHETICS, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND SENSE OF
11:45:56AM COMMUNITY AND IDENTITY FOR THE CITY.
11:45:58AM CITY PLANNING STRATEGY LAND USE POLICY 2.1.1, ENCOURAGE
11:46:03AM COMPACT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH
11:46:06AM THE SURROUNDING CHARACTER.
11:46:07AM AND WE SURVEYED NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNER ACROSS THE
11:46:10AM STREET, BUT THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA.
11:46:13AM THEY ALL RECALL IT BEING DUPLEX.
11:46:16AM LAND USE POLICY 2.1.2, USE LIMITED LAND USE RESOURCES MORE
11:46:21AM EFFICIENTLY AND PURSUE A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS MORE
11:46:24AM ECONOMICALLY SOUND BY ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON
11:46:27AM VACANT LAND.
11:46:28AM THIS IS AN EXISTING HOUSE.
11:46:30AM EXISTING DUPLEX AND IT'S BEEN THERE AT LEAST, WE CAN
11:46:34AM DOCUMENT IN ONE RECORD 52 YEARS AND ANOTHER RECORD, MORE
11:46:37AM THAN 70 YEARS.
11:46:39AM THE OVERALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT LAND
11:46:42AM USE POLICY 9.2.6 ENCOURAGE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND
11:46:47AM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS TO BE DESIGNED TO INCLUDE
11:46:50AM ORIENTATION OF THE FRONT DOORS TOWARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:46:53AM STREETS.
11:46:54AM IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE 1926.
11:46:56AM LOW-MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY AREAS, LAND USE 9.1.7 --
11:47:01AM 9.7.1, PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTACH HOUSING AT SLIGHTLY
11:47:06AM HIGHER DENSITIES THAN SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
11:47:09AM ADEQUATE SITES TO ACCOMMODATE HOUSING NEEDS.
11:47:11AM ENSURE THAT ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET
11:47:14AM THE NEEDS AND PREFERENCES AND FINANCIAL CAPABILITIES OF THE
11:47:18AM HOUSING MARKET AND WHAT'S DEMANDED.
11:47:22AM THIS IS A LOWER, SMALLER SCALE RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
11:47:26AM THERE ARE TWO UNITS THERE.
11:47:27AM IF YOU REMOVE ONE, IT'S A MATTER OF COMPLICATING AND
11:47:33AM INCREASING THE DEMAND FOR HOUSING SOMEPLACE ELSE AND IT
11:47:36AM CREATES A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP ON THE OWNER.
11:47:38AM I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE DOCUMENTED AND WE HAVE SUBSTANTIATED
11:47:45AM ALL OF THE REASONS WHY THIS SHOULD BE APPROVED.
11:47:48AM AND WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
11:47:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:47:52AM I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK, HURTAK WAS FIRST.
11:47:55AM THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:47:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK I ALREADY -- WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO
11:48:01AM ASK THE QUESTION.
11:48:02AM WHY ARE YOU NOT COMING -- WHY ISN'T THIS A REQUEST FOR A
11:48:08AM MULTIFAMILY DUPLEX?
11:48:11AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU CAN'T MEET THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
11:48:13AM THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS R-10.
11:48:16AM THERE ARE TWO UNITS.
11:48:17AM THE PROPERTY ISN'T BIG ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED FOR TWO
11:48:20AM UNITS.
11:48:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. COTTON.
11:48:23AM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM.
11:48:24AM ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:48:26AM AS MR. MICHELINI INDICATED, THE LAND USE IS R-10.
11:48:29AM YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.
11:48:31AM I WANT TO REORIENT THE STAFF.
11:48:33AM TALKED A LOT ABOUT NONCONFORMITIES, COUNCIL BACK TO THE FACT
11:48:37AM THAT THIS IS AN APPEAL, PETITION FOR REVIEW ON AN ACCESSORY
11:48:40AM DWELLING UNIT.
11:48:41AM THAT'S THE SOLUTION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO KEEP THE TWO
11:48:47AM UNITS ON THERE.
11:48:48AM THREE REASONS.
11:48:49AM THE FIRST ONE I LEFT OUT, WHICH MR. MICHELINI INDICATED,
11:48:52AM WHICH IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH UNIT.
11:48:54AM THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT LIVE ON THE
11:48:57AM PROPERTY AND THE FACT THAT IT IS IN A NONCONFORMING
11:48:59AM STRUCTURE.
11:48:59AM THOSE ARE THE THREE REASONS FOR THE DENIAL THAT THE COUNCIL
11:49:02AM WOULD BE LOOKING AT, NOT NECESSARILY THE AGE OF THE
11:49:05AM STRUCTURE AND WHEN IT BECAME A DUPLEX.
11:49:07AM THEY DID APPLY FOR FORMAL DECISION TO APPROVE A
11:49:10AM NONCONFORMITY.
11:49:11AM THAT REQUEST HAD BEEN DENIED BY STAFF BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
11:49:16AM MEET THAT BURDEN OF PROVING A NONCONFORMING USE ON THE
11:49:19AM PROPERTY OR IN A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:49:21AM SO HENCE THEY CAME IN AND THEY APPLIED FOR THE SU-1.
11:49:25AM IN AN EFFORT, WHEN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BECAME A SPECIAL
11:49:29AM USE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS THAT WAS THE OPTION THEY WERE GIVEN TO
11:49:32AM TRY TO KEEP THE TWO UNITS.
11:49:33AM IF NOT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE LAND USE AND SUCH TO
11:49:37AM TRY TO GET THE TWO UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.
11:49:38AM DOES THAT HELP EXPLAIN?
11:49:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, IT SEEMS, THOUGH, IF THIS HAS BEEN THE
11:49:47AM SAME USE FOR SO MANY YEARS, WE COULD FIND A WAY AS THE CITY
11:49:50AM TO CODIFY THAT.
11:49:51AM >>ERIC COTTON: THEY DID.
11:49:52AM THAT WAS THE FORMAL DECISION PROCESS.
11:49:54AM THEY WENT THROUGH AND UNABLE TO PROVE -- IT HAD BEEN LEGALLY
11:49:58AM ESTABLISHED AS A DUPLEX PRIOR TO 1956 AND REMAIN THAT WAY AS
11:50:01AM A DUPLEX USE TILL TODAY KIND OF THING.
11:50:05AM THROUGH THE FORMAL DECISION PROCESS, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO
11:50:07AM DO THAT.
11:50:08AM THE SANBORN MAPS WERE NOT PRESENTED THAT MR. MICHELINI
11:50:11AM TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
11:50:12AM WERE NOT SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE FORMAL DECISION PROCESS.
11:50:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:50:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TOOK SOME OF
11:50:18AM MY QUESTIONS.
11:50:19AM CURIOUS.
11:50:20AM HOW DID THIS -- HOW DID WE GET HERE?
11:50:22AM WAS THE APPLICANT TRYING TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY?
11:50:24AM HOW DID THIS RISE TO OUR ATTENTION?
11:50:28AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW IT GOT HERE.
11:50:30AM I THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS DOING A SWEEP IN THE AREA, AND
11:50:35AM THEY ISSUED A CITATION.
11:50:37AM WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF
11:50:40AM TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS.
11:50:42AM THE STAFF HAS BEEN AS HELPFUL AS THEY COULD BE, AND THEY
11:50:46AM WERE STUCK.
11:50:47AM BUT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE ADUs WITH THE CODE CHANGE,
11:50:51AM THAT PRESENTED AN AVENUE FOR RESOLUTION OF HOW DO YOU
11:50:54AM CORRECT IT.
11:50:56AM YOU MAY HAVE OTHERS IN THE AREA THAT MAY HAVE THE SAME
11:50:58AM PROBLEM.
11:50:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR MR. COTTON, I'M KIND OF PIGGY BACKING
11:51:02AM ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
11:51:03AM CLEARLY PROBABLY MANY, MANY EXAMPLES OF THIS HISTORICAL USE
11:51:08AM OF PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CONFORM.
11:51:10AM IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SQUARE PEG IN THE ROUND HOLE RIGHT
11:51:13AM NOW.
11:51:13AM IS THIS THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM
11:51:17AM WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT HERE TODAY?
11:51:20AM >>ERIC COTTON: IDEALLY THEY WOULD GO THROUGH A FORMAL
11:51:23AM DECISION PROCESS TO TRY TO PROVE THAT THE USE WAS LEGALLY
11:51:25AM ESTABLISHED.
11:51:26AM AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO PROVE BACK TO 1956 THAT THE DUPLEX WAS
11:51:29AM ESTABLISHED LEGALLY AND HAS CONTINUOUSLY REMAINED OCCUPIED.
11:51:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT APPEARS TO ME WITH THE SANBORN MAPS --
11:51:35AM I KNOW HE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS --
11:51:38AM WITH THE SANBORN MAPS IF THAT WAS PRESENTED IN A FORMAL
11:51:40AM PROCESS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE COMPELLING EVIDENCE.
11:51:42AM >>ERIC COTTON: IT WOULD BE EVIDENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE
11:51:44AM REVIEWED, YES.
11:51:45AM AS MR. MICHELINI INDICATED, THEY APPLIED FOR THE FORMAL
11:51:52AM DECISION.
11:51:53AM THE SANBORN MAPS THEY JUST GOT TODAY OR WITHIN THE LAST
11:51:55AM COUPLE OF DAYS.
11:51:58AM UTILIZE FOR FORMAL DECISION -- PETITION FOR REVIEW
11:52:03AM INFORMATION IS ALSO THE POLK DIRECTORIES.
11:52:05AM WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THE POLK DIRECTORY, THE FIRST TIME THE
11:52:08AM DUPLEX SHOWS UP IS '76.
11:52:10AM PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS ALWAYS LISTED AS ONE UNIT.
11:52:13AM ALL THAT EVIDENCE COMES INTO LIGHT WHEN WE REVIEW IT, AND
11:52:16AM THAT'S HOW WE BASE OUR DECISION ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE
11:52:18AM FORMAL DECISION.
11:52:19AM THE ADU IS A SOLUTION THAT WAS OFFERED TO THEM TO GO THROUGH
11:52:24AM SINCE THE CODE WAS CHANGED FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:52:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ADUs IN THERE,
11:52:30AM WOULD THERE BE ANOTHER SOLUTION YOU WOULD HAVE PURSUED?
11:52:32AM GRANDFATHERING THESE THINGS IN?
11:52:34AM >>ERIC COTTON: AS, I THINK, MS. FEELEY JUST INDICATED, HAVE
11:52:37AM TO DO A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO AN R-20 LAND USE AND THEN
11:52:40AM COME IN AND REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A PD OR AN RM-16.
11:52:43AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO -- THERE'S
11:52:46AM NO ADJACENT R-20s THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD
11:52:50AM SUPPORT THAT.
11:52:52AM ONE OTHER THING THAT ERIC DIDN'T MENTION WAS YOU HAVE TO
11:52:55AM SHOW A CHAIN OF LEASES BACK FROM '56 AND THEY JUST ARE NOT
11:53:02AM AVAILABLE.
11:53:05AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
11:53:06AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:53:07AM I JUST WANTED TO REDIRECT CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT WE'RE HERE
11:53:10AM FOR.
11:53:10AM THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:53:14AM STAFF PROVIDED THE SPECIFIC CODE SECTIONS AND THE SPECIFIC
11:53:18AM CRITERIA THAT MUST BE MET IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE APPROVED.
11:53:23AM BUT IF CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED
11:53:27AM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO WAIVE THE CRITERIA
11:53:31AM REGARDING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, THEN THAT'S WHERE
11:53:35AM CITY COUNCIL TO DECIDE.
11:53:37AM BUT THE INFORMATION THAT MR. MICHELINI HAS PRESENTED IS
11:53:41AM REGARDING A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT HE WENT THROUGH FOR THIS
11:53:47AM PROPERTY.
11:53:47AM BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL WE'RE NOT HERE REGARDING A
11:53:51AM FORMAL DECISION OR TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY CONFORMING.
11:53:55AM THIS IS ABOUT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:53:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:53:59AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: EXCUSE ME FOR A SECOND.
11:54:01AM I WAS JUST TRYING TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
11:54:04AM WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROCESSES AND PROBABLY
11:54:07AM A DOZEN MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
11:54:11AM RESOLVE THIS FOR THIS POOR GENTLEMAN.
11:54:14AM AND THIS WAS THE LEAST PATH OF RESISTANCE TO GET TO WHERE WE
11:54:18AM NEEDED TO BE.
11:54:18AM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:54:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:54:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST LISTENING AND TRYING TO
11:54:26AM UNDERSTAND HOW FAR BACK THIS GOES.
11:54:29AM WHEN I SEE TWO METERS, I KNOW THAT PRESENTLY NO ELECTRIC
11:54:33AM COMPANY WOULD PUT METERS ON ANY PROPERTY UNLESS THEY HAD THE
11:54:36AM PROPER NOTIFICATION, THE PROPER -- I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT
11:54:40AM IS.
11:54:41AM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE METERS GOT THERE.
11:54:44AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: FROM MY EXPERIENCE, MR. MIRANDA, THE CITY
11:54:47AM WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE SIGNED OFF ON SOMETHING TO GET TWO
11:54:50AM METERS.
11:54:51AM TECO IS VERY STRINGENT ABOUT ADDING METERS.
11:54:55AM IT WASN'T JUST AN ADD-ON TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
11:54:59AM THEY HAD TO APPROVE -- THEY HAD TO PROVE AT SOME POINT THAT
11:55:03AM THEY WERE ENTITLED TO TWO METERS.
11:55:05AM WE DID GO BACK WITH TECO TO TRY TO GET EARLIER RECORDS TO
11:55:09AM TRY TO FIND OUT WHEN THOSE METERS WERE INSTALLED, AND THEIR
11:55:12AM RECORDS DIDN'T GO BACK FAR ENOUGH TO SATISFY THE CITY CODE,
11:55:17AM WHICH WAS 1956.
11:55:19AM THAT'S A VERY HIGH BURDEN TO ME.
11:55:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ABOUT THE WATER METERS?
11:55:25AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE WATER METERS ARE THERE.
11:55:26AM THEY ARE PAYING FOR THAT.
11:55:27AM THEY PAID FOR EVERYTHING ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AS IF IT
11:55:31AM WERE A DUPLEX.
11:55:33AM THE PROBLEM IS WE SIMPLY COULDN'T PROVE IT ACCORDING TO CITY
11:55:43AM CRITERIA.
11:55:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK?
11:55:48AM ANYBODY?
11:55:51AM YES, MA'AM.
11:55:52AM PLEASE COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:55:54AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:55:59AM >> I THOUGHT THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING LITTLE TIDBIT RIGHT
11:56:07AM HERE.
11:56:07AM HOW DID WE GET HERE?
11:56:08AM MY GUESS IS THE WHOLE PAGE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS
11:56:14AM SINCE THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
11:56:17AM BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, HMM, MY REAL
11:56:22AM PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THE FACT THAT I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT
11:56:25AM WHAT THE WORLD THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
11:56:28AM ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT?
11:56:30AM DUPLEX THERE.
11:56:31AM WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS?
11:56:32AM WHAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT THE TAX
11:56:37AM RECORDS SHOW THAT IT IS A DUPLEX.
11:56:39AM I'M NOT NECESSARILY EVEN AVERSE TO, LEAVE IT ALONE.
11:56:44AM WE NEED 450-SQUARE-FOOT UNITS.
11:56:46AM MY GUESS IS THIS GUY IS NOT GETTING MARKET RATE FOR HIS
11:56:51AM UNIT.
11:56:51AM BUT MY ISSUE WOULD BE WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THESE CODE
11:56:54AM ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS?
11:56:55AM ARE THEY DUE TO THAT?
11:56:56AM DID I DIG INTO IT THAT FAR?
11:56:58AM NO.
11:56:59AM I JUST REMEMBER WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I WENT TO THE TAX
11:57:02AM APPRAISER'S WEBSITE TO LOOK AT IT, WHICH IS INTERESTING,
11:57:05AM BECAUSE IT SHOWS AS ONE UNIT ON THE TAX APPRAISER'S WEBSITE.
11:57:10AM BUT OVER HERE IT SAYS IT IS A DUPLEX.
11:57:13AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, BUT WHY -- THIS IS
11:57:17AM MISSING -- IT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
11:57:21AM IT'S MISSING MIDDLE.
11:57:22AM IT'S A DUPLEX, WHICH WE NEED HOUSING.
11:57:24AM I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
11:57:28AM I JUST WISH THIS GUY WAS A BETTER LANDLORD IF ALL THESE WERE
11:57:32AM CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS AND NOT KEEPING UP.
11:57:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:57:35AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:57:36AM AND I WAS SWORN.
11:57:37AM THANK YOU.
11:57:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC
11:57:39AM COMMENT?
11:57:39AM IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT AT THIS TIME, MR.
11:57:44AM COTTON?
11:57:45AM >>ERIC COTTON: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:57:46AM I WANT TO AGAIN AS MS. PETTIS-MACKLE INDICATED THIS IS A
11:57:49AM PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL USE 1 FOR AN ACCESSORY
11:57:53AM DWELLING UNIT.
11:57:54AM THE OTHER EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT THE HISTORY
11:57:57AM OF WHEN IT BECAME A DUPLEX WAS ON THE TAX RECORDS AND SUCH,
11:58:01AM THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT,
11:58:03AM SPECIFIC CRITERIA, THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO MEET.
11:58:05AM IF THEY CAN'T MEET IT, AGAIN, STAFF DENIES THAT REQUEST AND
11:58:09AM IT COMES TO COUNCIL TO MAKE A DETERMINATION IF STAFF WILL BE
11:58:12AM OVERTURNED OR UPHELD.
11:58:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:15AM I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF OVERTURNING THE DENIAL.
11:58:19AM I THINK IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY IN MY OPINION.
11:58:23AM ANY REBUTTAL, SIR?
11:58:25AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
11:58:26AM WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
11:58:27AM I THINK THE MAN HAS ENDURED A HARDSHIP THAT NEEDS TO BE
11:58:30AM CORRECTED.
11:58:31AM AND THIS IS THE PATH OF CORRECTING THAT PROBLEM.
11:58:33AM THANK YOU.
11:58:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:34AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:58:35AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:58:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:58:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:58:39AM AYE.
11:58:40AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:58:41AM WE CAN UPHOLD OR OVERTURN.
11:58:44AM WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE IT?
11:58:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS NO INDICTMENT OF STAFF.
11:59:00AM I THINK, AGAIN, YOU GUYS HAD THE TOOLS YOU HAD TO USE FOR
11:59:03AM WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU.
11:59:05AM I UNDERSTAND OVERTURNING THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON STAFF.
11:59:09AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
11:59:10AM I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SU
11:59:14AM 1-24-03 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1014 EAST 31st AVENUE
11:59:20AM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
11:59:22AM EVIDENCE TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING
11:59:25AM UNIT REGARDING OWNER OCCUPIES SIZE REQUIREMENTS AND LOCATION
11:59:28AM WITHIN A CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
11:59:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:59:32AM CLENDENIN AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:59:34AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:59:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:59:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:59:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:59:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:59:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:59:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:59:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:59:47AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:59:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:51AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GO TO LUNCH --
11:59:55AM >> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:57AM I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME.
12:00:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:00:01PM >> MY NAME IS JAVED GOHAR, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
12:00:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PER REQUEST OF MS. NICOLE TRAVIS FOR THE
12:00:12PM ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, IT SHOULD TAKE ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN
12:00:15PM MINUTES.
12:00:15PM WE'LL TAKE THAT UP NOW AND THEN GO TO LUNCH.
12:00:17PM I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A LENGTHIER PRESENTATION, BUT
12:00:20PM IT'S NOT.
12:00:21PM YES, MA'AM.
12:00:21PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:00:22PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT
12:00:25PM AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
12:00:26PM GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS.
12:00:27PM WE'RE EXCITED TO ROLL OUT OR SHARE OUR ECONOMIC DASHBOARD
12:00:32PM WITH COUNCIL AND WITH THE PUBLIC TODAY.
12:00:35PM THIS ECONOMIC DASHBOARD IS A SNAPSHOT OF TAMPA'S EVOLVING
12:00:39PM AND GROWING ECONOMY.
12:00:40PM IT IS A REAL-TIME TOOL THAT YOU CAN JUST USE AT THE CLICK OF
12:00:45PM A BUTTON TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR ECONOMY AND HOW
12:00:51PM CONSUMERS ARE SPENDING.
12:00:53PM THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WILL INVEST IN OUR
12:00:56PM COMMUNITY.
12:00:57PM IT'S A REAL BRIEF PRESENTATION BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO
12:01:00PM SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
12:01:01PM I'M GOING TO LET OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY,
12:01:06PM JAVIER MARIN AND BRENDA McKENZIE, THE DIRECTOR OF
12:01:09PM WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS AND SPECIAL PROJECTS, SHARE THIS WITH
12:01:11PM YOU.
12:01:11PM IT WILL TAKE NO MORE THAN SEVEN MINUTES.
12:01:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.
12:01:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:01:16PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:01:17PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:01:19PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:01:20PM GOOD MORNING.
12:01:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME?
12:01:23PM >> FOR THE RECORD, JAVIER MARIN, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
12:01:27PM OPPORTUNITY.
12:01:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION,
12:01:33PM WHICH WE'RE BRINGING UP NOW.
12:01:34PM >> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND
12:01:53PM PRESENT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
12:01:55PM >> CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN?
12:01:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
12:01:57PM IT WILL COME UP NOW.
12:02:00PM >> WE WANTED TO COME AND SHARE SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE USE
12:02:06PM FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE SO WE CAN HELP THE
12:02:10PM CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA MOVE FORWARD.
12:02:13PM WE FELT THAT THERE MAY ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS
12:02:17PM INFORMATION PUBLIC, SO EXISTING AND PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS
12:02:23PM OWNERS, RESIDENTS, AND MAYBE EVEN DEVELOPERS CAN TAKE A LOOK
12:02:29PM AND KIND OF GET A PULSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ECONOMICALLY
12:02:34PM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:02:35PM WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHAT WE CALL THE ECONOMIC
12:02:38PM DASHBOARD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:02:40PM AND IT HAS ABOUT 47 DIFFERENT INDICATORS.
12:02:45PM WE HAVE USED NINE DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND DATABASES FOR THIS
12:02:51PM PURPOSE.
12:02:51PM SOME OF THEM ARE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
12:02:53PM SOME OF THEM ARE PRIVATE.
12:02:57PM BUT WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR OUR JOB, BUT ALSO
12:03:01PM FOR GENERAL INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC.
12:03:03PM YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE SEVEN DIFFERENT TABS THAT MAKE
12:03:08PM UP THE DASHBOARD, AND IF YOU WANTED TO ACTUALLY TAKE A LOOK
12:03:13PM AT INFORMATION ON THE 47 DATA POINTS THAT WE USE, YOU WILL
12:03:19PM SEE THAT THERE IS A LABEL FOR IT.
12:03:23PM THERE IS AN ACTUAL DESCRIPTION.
12:03:26PM TYPICALLY WHAT IT WOULD BE USED FOR, THE GEOGRAPHY, BECAUSE
12:03:30PM IN SOME CASES YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE INFORMATION THAT COVERS
12:03:33PM THE MLS, THE FOUR COUNTIES THAT ENCOMPASS THE WHOLE MLS.
12:03:38PM IN SOME CASES YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:03:43PM IN SOME CASES CITY OF TAMPA ZIP CODES.
12:03:46PM AGAIN, WE KNOW IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
12:03:49PM WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN SOME
12:03:53PM OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AREAS WITHIN THE CITY.
12:03:58PM AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE IS A SOURCE AND THERE IS A LINK
12:04:01PM TO THAT SOURCE.
12:04:03PM SO ANYONE THAT DESIRES TO VIEW THIS INFORMATION CAN ACTUALLY
12:04:07PM IDENTIFY WHERE IT COMES FROM AND HOW THE INFORMATION IS
12:04:10PM TYPICALLY USED.
12:04:11PM ON THE KEY INDICATORS, YOU'LL FIND INFORMATION SUCH AS
12:04:16PM UNEMPLOYMENT, 1%, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OCCUPANCY, NEW
12:04:25PM BUSINESSES.
12:04:28PM I'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THOSE IN A FEW MINUTES.
12:04:31PM VENTURE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.
12:04:33PM AGAIN, THIS TAB IS REALLY JUST THE INDICATORS AND THEN
12:04:37PM EVERYTHING ELSE IS BREAKING DOWN.
12:04:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE AT THIS TIME DIRECTOR McKENZIE TO
12:04:43PM GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE JOB STAT AND HOW THAT IS
12:04:48PM TYPICALLY USED IN HERE.
12:04:51PM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:04:53PM BRENDA McKENZIE, DIRECTOR OF WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS AND
12:04:56PM SPECIAL PROJECTS.
12:04:56PM IT IS A PLEASURE TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU TODAY.
12:04:59PM IT'S BORN OUT OF COLLABORATION.
12:05:02PM THE WORKFORCE COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING FOR A COUPLE OF
12:05:04PM YEARS.
12:05:05PM WE'VE BEEN ADVISED FROM EVERYONE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
12:05:06PM SOUTH FLORIDA, A NUMBER OF WORKFORCE GROUPS, COLLABORATORS,
12:05:11PM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, TO REALLY COME UP WITH INDICATORS FOR
12:05:14PM WORKFORCE THAT WILL HELP NOT ONLY ADVISE US SO THAT WE CAN
12:05:18PM ADVISE YOU BETTER IN TERMS OF WORKFORCE POLICIES AND
12:05:22PM OPPORTUNITIES ARE COMING ONLINE, BUT ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE
12:05:25PM INFORMATION TO INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT BE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S
12:05:29PM GOING ON IN THE ECONOMY.
12:05:30PM WHAT ARE THE JOB SKILLS THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED
12:05:33PM IN?
12:05:33PM WHO IS REALLY HIRING NOW?
12:05:35PM WHERE DO I FIND MY OPPORTUNITY?
12:05:36PM WE REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
12:05:39PM WE ALSO WANTED TO USE IDENTIFIABLE SOURCES THAT ARE
12:05:44PM COLLABORATORS, WHETHER CAREER SOURCE OR OTHERS ARE USING SO
12:05:47PM WHEN WE COMPARE HOW WE'RE DOING HERE IN TAMPA, IT'S
12:05:51PM CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY.
12:05:52PM IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE.
12:05:53PM IT'S CONSISTENT WITH CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA SO THAT WE'RE
12:05:56PM REALLY COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.
12:05:58PM WE'RE ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO REALLY DELVE INTO THE DATA.
12:06:03PM WE'RE HOPING IT SPARKS A CONSERVATION AND IT REALLY DRIVES
12:06:05PM OUR POLICY FORWARD.
12:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:06:10PM >> SINCE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE STANDING BETWEEN YOU AND LUNCH
12:06:14PM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THE REST OF
12:06:17PM THE TABS.
12:06:18PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT REAL ESTATE AND YOU REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE A
12:06:22PM CONTRACT WITH THE TAMPA BAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL TO
12:06:27PM ATTRACT BUSINESSES AND HELP EXISTING BUSINESSES GROW.
12:06:31PM SO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:06:35PM TYPICALLY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SOME SUPPORT IN TERMS
12:06:37PM OF LOCATION.
12:06:39PM SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT OFFICE REAL ESTATE AND BROKE IT DOWN
12:06:43PM INTO FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS.
12:06:45PM WE HAVE THE I-4 CORRIDOR.
12:06:46PM WE HAVE THE NORTHWEST TAMPA AREA, THE TAMPA CENTRAL BUSINESS
12:06:49PM DISTRICT, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE, OCCUPANCY IS CLOSE TO 90%,
12:06:55PM AND WE ALSO HAVE WESTSHORE.
12:06:57PM SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP US MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION
12:07:01PM WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE EDC AND IDENTIFY
12:07:05PM ADDITIONAL AREAS WHERE SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT THEY WORK
12:07:08PM WITH WOULD BE LOCATED.
12:07:10PM I WOULD SAY THAT APPLIES AS WELL TO INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND IN
12:07:13PM THIS CASE WE ACTUALLY BROKE IT DOWN IN ONLY TWO AREAS.
12:07:17PM EAST SIDE AND THE WESTSHORE AREA.
12:07:21PM MOVING ALONG, WE DO HAVE A TAB FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
12:07:25PM SO THE IMPORTANCE AND YOU RECALL THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH
12:07:31PM PROSPERA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COLLABORATIVE CENTER WHERE
12:07:38PM WE ARE USING OUR SMALL BUSINESS NAVIGATOR TO IDENTIFY
12:07:42PM BUSINESSES, WHETHER THEY ARE MICROBUSINESSES, SMALL
12:07:45PM BUSINESSES, OR LARGER BUSINESSES THAT NEED ASSISTANCE, AND
12:07:48PM THEN THEY ARE BEING CONNECTED WITH THE RESOURCES, BE IT FOR
12:07:52PM WORKSHOPS OR FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
12:07:55PM SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SMALL BUSINESSES, THERE ARE A LOT OF
12:07:58PM AREAS IN WHICH WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THEM.
12:08:01PM WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN GAPS INTO THE
12:08:04PM SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO THEM THROUGH THESE AGENCIES THAT
12:08:07PM WE CONTRACT WITH.
12:08:09PM AND WE PLAN TO PLUG SOME OF THE GAPS BY THE NEXT FISCAL
12:08:13PM YEAR.
12:08:14PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE CASH FLOW CAPACITY THAT WE SAW
12:08:20PM IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023.
12:08:22PM WHEN 21, ALMOST 22 PERCENT OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE
12:08:26PM POLLED ACTUALLY RESPONDED, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
12:08:29PM SURVIVE MORE THAN TWO WEEKS.
12:08:31PM SO THIS IS A CASH FLOW ISSUE AND CERTAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY
12:08:35PM FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT FROM THE AGENCIES.
12:08:40PM YOU ALSO RECALL THAT WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH TAMPA BAY
12:08:45PM WAVE TO BE AN ACCELERATOR FOR TECH BUSINESSES.
12:08:50PM WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE START-UPS YET.
12:08:53PM BUT THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IS ACTUALLY VERY GOOD.
12:08:56PM WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF START-UPS AND THE ACTUAL
12:09:00PM NUMBER OF INVESTORS THAT ARE ABLE TO DIVEST FROM THEIR
12:09:04PM BUSINESS AND SELL IT.
12:09:06PM SOMEONE JUST GRADUATED -- GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE MAY BE
12:09:09PM ABLE TO SELL THEIR I.T. COMPANY AND MAKE A COUPLE OF MILLION
12:09:13PM OR BILLION IN SOME CASES.
12:09:16PM IT'S CERTAINLY HAPPENING IN TAMPA AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
12:09:18PM THAT WE CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT SUCCESS.
12:09:21PM CONSUMER SPENDING IS GOING TO HELP US IDENTIFY WHAT
12:09:26PM INDUSTRIES ARE DOING BETTER OR WORSE IN SOME CASES.
12:09:28PM SO, AGAIN, ONCE WE IDENTIFY THESE INDUSTRIES WITHIN CERTAIN
12:09:35PM AREAS, THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE AND BRING THEM INTO THE FOLD
12:09:39PM WITH ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
12:09:41PM YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR MORE FROM ME IN FUTURE MEETINGS WHERE
12:09:45PM WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT SCALING UP OF BUSINESSES AND
12:09:48PM SUPPORTING SECOND-STAGE BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN GROW BEYOND
12:09:53PM WHAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING UP TO NOW.
12:09:56PM AND THEN THE COMMUNITY PROFILE STAFF REALLY IS THE MOST
12:10:00PM IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REFLECT EVERYTHING WE DO.
12:10:05PM THIS COMMUNITY PROFILE TAB IS CRITICAL.
12:10:08PM IT SHOWS POPULATION IN POVERTY.
12:10:14PM ALTHOUGH WE DO SEE A DECREASE IN POVERTY, IN LOOKING AT
12:10:19PM 15.5% AS OF 2022, THERE IS A MESSAGE I CAN LEAVE YOU WITH
12:10:25PM TODAY AND I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST.
12:10:27PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, BUT IT'S MY OPINION THAT A CITY
12:10:34PM IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS MOST VULNERABLE.
12:10:38PM AS LONG AS WE HAVE POVERTY IN THE CITY, THEN WE HAVE A LOT
12:10:41PM OF WORK TO DO.
12:10:42PM WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE BE UPSCALE SO
12:10:47PM THEY CAN TAKE BETTER JOBS, HIGHER PAID JOBS.
12:10:50PM WE NEED TO SUPPORT EXISTING BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN EXPAND.
12:10:54PM WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES OF OUR PARTNER
12:10:57PM ORGANIZATIONS SO WE CAN BRING MORE BUSINESSES INTO THE CITY
12:11:01PM OF TAMPA.
12:11:02PM SO, AGAIN, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL INDICATORS THERE, AS
12:11:06PM DIRECTOR McKENZIE SAID.
12:11:07PM WE INVITE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK.
12:11:09PM PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.
12:11:11PM IF YOU FIND ANY AREAS WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE
12:11:15PM IMPROVEMENTS.
12:11:19PM AGAIN, MY MESSAGE IS, WE ARE WORKING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT
12:11:22PM ORGANIZATIONS.
12:11:24PM WE HAVEN'T TYPICALLY HEARD FROM THEM.
12:11:26PM YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE EDC IN APRIL WHEN WE COME BACK ON
12:11:29PM APRIL THE 26th TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN TERMS OF
12:11:32PM ATTRACTING BUSINESSES AND SUPPORTING THE GROWTH OR THE
12:11:36PM INCREASE OF THE AVERAGE WAGE.
12:11:38PM IN MAY WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU AGAIN TO DISCUSS LOW
12:11:42PM INCOME OR THE -- INITIATIVES WHERE WE WILL BRING RETAIL TO
12:11:49PM THE LOW-INCOME AREAS AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AT SOME
12:11:53PM POINT IN TIME START BRINGING SOME OF THESE OTHER AGENCIES
12:11:56PM THAT PROVIDE THE CRITICAL SERVICES TO THE BUSINESSES.
12:12:00PM WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
12:12:02PM I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT LUNCH.
12:12:04PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
12:12:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:06PM NO, WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
12:12:08PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:12:08PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:10PM [LUNCH RECESS]
01:34:42PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
01:34:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
01:34:46PM AT THIS TIME, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL?
01:34:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:34:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:35:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:35:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:35:02PM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:35:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE BEGIN.
01:35:07PM BEFORE WE GO, WE WILL HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE TIMER ON FOR EACH
01:35:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER AS WE DO OUR DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD.
01:35:13PM YES, SIR, MR. ROGERO, ITEM NUMBER 91.
01:35:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
01:35:19PM GOOD AFTERNOON, DENNIS ROGERO TO REPORT ON 91.
01:35:24PM THE CONCEPT OF CITY COUNCIL'S SALARIES.
01:35:29PM WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE INFORMATIVE TO LAY OUT A CHRONOLOGY
01:35:34PM OF HOW WE CAME TO THIS POINT AND VARIOUS CITY COUNCIL
01:35:37PM SALARIES THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
01:35:39PM IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN GO TO THE ELMO.
01:35:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
01:35:43PM CAN WE GET THE OVERHEAD.
01:35:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO NOT SEE IT YET.
01:35:57PM PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE IT.
01:35:59PM THANK YOU, SIR.
01:36:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
01:36:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND YOU HAVE IT RIGHT THERE.
01:36:13PM AGAIN, JUST A CHRONOLOGY.
01:36:16PM THIS REQUEST WAS INFORMALLY MADE AT A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION
01:36:19PM IN OCTOBER 2021 SUGGESTING COMPARABLE CITIES TO TAMPA.
01:36:24PM MRS. POYNOR WHO WE DISCUSSED CREATING THIS ELMO SLIDE
01:36:31PM PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION LATER -- EARLY IN 2022.
01:36:35PM AND YOU SEE OVER TO THE FAR RIGHT IN YELLOW OF THE EXTERNAL
01:36:40PM JURISDICTIONAL ANALYSIS OF APPROXIMATELY $73,000.
01:36:44PM SEPARATE ANALYSIS INTERNAL WAS DONE, AGAIN, ARRIVING AT A
01:36:49PM VERY SIMILAR FIGURE.
01:36:50PM ALMOST $74,000 PER COUNCILMEMBER.
01:36:54PM IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '23, WE
01:36:58PM APPROPRIATED AN AMOUNT NECESSARY TO RAISE CITY COUNCIL'S
01:37:02PM SALARY TO THAT NUMBER.
01:37:03PM TO $73,713.
01:37:05PM IT WAS NOT ACTED UPON, AND YOUR SALARIES WERE NOT INCREASED
01:37:11PM AND WE RETAINED THAT FUNDING AND CARRY IT OVER INTO THE
01:37:14PM CURRENT YEAR IN PERSONNEL RESERVES WHICH I WILL TALK TO --
01:37:18PM SPEAK TO IN JUST A MOMENT.
01:37:19PM HAD THAT AFFECT -- HAD THAT PAY INCREASE GONE INTO AFFECT
01:37:24PM WITH CITY COUNCIL'S UPCOMING 3% COST-OF-LIVING RAISE ON MAY
01:37:30PM 1, WE HAVE CALCULATED A SIMILAR FIGURE OF $75,315.
01:37:35PM SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM A MATHEMATICAL PERSPECTIVE,
01:37:39PM THAT BRINGS US TO PRESENT DAY.
01:37:40PM HAD THIS PAY GONE INTO EFFECT ALONG WITH YOUR FORTHCOMING 3%
01:37:46PM PAY INCREASE WE WOULD BE AT THAT NUMBER IN YELLOW, $75, 315.
01:37:52PM WHERE WE ARE TODAY YOU SEE IN THE SECOND TO THE LAST BULLET.
01:37:56PM GENERALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE MAKING $55,000 AND
01:38:01PM CHANGE.
01:38:01PM THE EXCEPTION IS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AT $53,000 AND CHANGE.
01:38:05PM BUT, AGAIN, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $20,000 FOR EACH COUNCIL
01:38:11PM SEAT IN OUR PERSONNEL RESERVES.
01:38:14PM YOU SEE THE TOTAL THERE OF JUST OVER $142,000.
01:38:18PM SO, AGAIN, WANTED TO LEVEL SET AS TO THE DISCUSSIONS TAKEN
01:38:23PM PLACE UP UNTIL NOW AND THE FUNDING -- THE FUNDING SCENARIO
01:38:27PM THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
01:38:28PM WE CAN ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR AS COUNCIL
01:38:33PM DISCUSSES THE ITEM.
01:38:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY WANT TO KICK IT OFF.
01:38:35PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:38:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ONLY THING IS, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A
01:38:41PM STUDY DONE BETWEEN CITIES, MIAMI, ST. PETE, ORLANDO,
01:38:44PM WHATEVER IT WAS.
01:38:44PM AND WHEN YOU DO THE COMPARISON TO THOSE CITIES, IT WAS VERY
01:38:49PM CLOSE.
01:38:51PM AM I CORRECT?
01:38:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT DEPENDS -- HONESTLY, I HAVE SEEN THREE
01:38:57PM OR FOUR, MAYBE EVEN MORE STUDIES.
01:38:59PM SO IT BOO DEPEND ON WHICH PARTICULAR STUDY YOU ARE
01:39:02PM REFERENCING.
01:39:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SALARY RANGED FROM $53,000 TO RIGHT
01:39:07PM AT $60,000.
01:39:08PM WITHIN THE RANGE.
01:39:09PM YOU ARE TALKING A $20,000-A-YEAR RAISE OR WHATEVER.
01:39:13PM WHEN YOU RUN FOR OFFICE, IT IS ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE.
01:39:16PM WHEN YOU WORK ON THE BOARDS, IT IS ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE.
01:39:20PM I HAVE WHAT I HAVE BECAUSE I WORKED TWO AND THREE JOBS MY
01:39:27PM WHOLE DAMN LIFE.
01:39:30PM TO DO IT UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.
01:39:32PM IT MAY BE TOMORROW OR I MIGHT LIVE ANOTHER 30 TO 40 YEARS,
01:39:36PM WHO KNOWS.
01:39:37PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS, WHEN YOU GO TO A DRASTIC INCREASE IN
01:39:41PM SALARY, IT SHOULD BE VOTED UPON BY THE CITIZENS OF THE NEXT
01:39:51PM ELECTION WHEN YOU CHOOSE YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
01:39:53PM LET THEM DEBATE.
01:39:54PM NOT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THE SALARY, THE CITIZENS,
01:39:57PM BUT LET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE DO THAT
01:39:59PM THEMSELVES.
01:40:00PM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO A SALARY INCREASE.
01:40:02PM I NEVER HAVE BEEN.
01:40:03PM 3% TO 4% LIKE WHO?
01:40:07PM THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES.
01:40:09PM I CAN -- I AM SPEAKING FROM MY HEART, NOT MY WALLET.
01:40:13PM IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WOULD RUB THE PEOPLE NOW WHEN YOU
01:40:18PM HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
01:40:22PM SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT, AND THEY CAN'T BECAUSE
01:40:27PM OF VARIOUS THINGS.
01:40:27PM INCREASE OF INSURANCE ON THE AUTOMOBILE.
01:40:31PM INCREASE DOUBLE IN THE HOUSING.
01:40:34PM YOU CAN'T BUY THE HOUSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE
01:40:39PM INSURANCE.
01:40:39PM YOU CAN MAKE THE PAYMENT BUT INSURANCE EATS YOU ALIVE.
01:40:43PM SOMETHING TO SPEAK TO WITH THE TAXPAYER.
01:40:46PM I HAVE SPOKE NO ONE -- I HAVE SPOKE TO NO ONE HERE, EXCUSE
01:40:50PM ME.
01:40:50PM I EVEN HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE CITIZENS.
01:40:54PM IN MY HEART, MY SALARY IS THE SAME AS THEIRS.
01:40:56PM THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I DON'T TAKE $200 A MONTH SPEND AS I
01:41:02PM WANT.
01:41:03PM THEY ARE ENTITLED TO IT.
01:41:05PM DON'T GET ME WRONG.
01:41:06PM IF I GO SOMEWHERE, I WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
01:41:08PM DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENT FOR ME WHO I AM?
01:41:12PM NO.
01:41:13PM I AM ONE OF SEVEN.
01:41:14PM THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.
01:41:15PM I AM NOT OPPOSED -- LET IT BE FOR THE NEXT GENERAL.
01:41:20PM BE THE SAME PERCENTAGE THAT THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES GET.
01:41:24PM WE ARE THE EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC, NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF
01:41:26PM OURSELVES.
01:41:27PM THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
01:41:30PM WHEN YOU RUN FOR OFFICE, YOU KNOW WHAT THE SALARY IS.
01:41:34PM YOU KNOW WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE -- OR YOU SHOULD KNOW.
01:41:39PM YOU KNOW -- IF IT IS GOING TO HELP ANYBODY, IT IS GOING TO
01:41:44PM HELP ME.
01:41:45PM BECAUSE YOUR RETIREMENT IS BASED ON THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF
01:41:49PM SALARY TIMES THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE PLUS ONE AND A
01:41:54PM HALF PERCENT A YEAR SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS -- I AM NOT
01:42:04PM BOTHERED OF IT, BUT I THINK THEY ARE OUT OF LINE.
01:42:07PM OUT OF LINE.
01:42:08PM YOU GET REGULAR EMPLOYMENT.
01:42:11PM PUBLIC AND PRIVATE DON'T DO THIS.
01:42:15PM SOME OF THE SALARIES WERE RAISED AND SOME EMPLOYEES WHO WERE
01:42:19PM THERE 30 YEARS AND PAY THEM THE SAME SALARY?
01:42:22PM AND THAT HAS HAPPENED.
01:42:23PM BUT NOW WE BRING IT UP, I AM BRINGING IT UP.
01:42:27PM I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THIS THING UP.
01:42:29PM IT JUST -- NOT THE RIGHT THING.
01:42:35PM AND ANYBODY'S MIND IS WORTH THE $75,000.
01:42:40PM BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU RUN FOR OFFICE FOR.
01:42:42PM YOU RUN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE YOU CAN SERVE THE PUBLIC AND YOU
01:42:46PM THINK YOU CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN THE ONE THAT IS THERE
01:42:49PM BEFORE YOU.
01:42:49PM THAT'S HOW IT IS.
01:42:50PM I AM NOT HERE TO QUESTION YOU OR ANYONE ELSE, BUT I CAN'T
01:42:54PM NOT SUPPORT A SALARY OF THAT INCREASE.
01:42:57PM 33.5% TO 4%.
01:43:00PM IF WE DIDN'T GET IT TWO YEARS, GIVE IT TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T
01:43:03PM GET IT.
01:43:03PM NO PROBLEM FOR ME.
01:43:04PM I AM JUST ONE.
01:43:05PM I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS, TODAY'S SOCIETY -- WHAT IS
01:43:11PM HAPPENING IN ST. PETE.
01:43:12PM WHAT THEY GOT TO DEAL WITH NOW I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD PASS
01:43:18PM AND THAT'S JUST ME.
01:43:19PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:43:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
01:43:24PM YES, SIR.
01:43:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I BELIEVE IN GOOD GOVERNMENT.
01:43:27PM AND I THINK THAT IN GOOD GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE A
01:43:34PM LIVING AND A FAIR WAGE.
01:43:35PM I AM LUCKY THAT I HAVE ANOTHER JOB.
01:43:37PM NOT EVERYBODY THAT RUNS FOR OFFICE HAS THAT ABILITY TO HAVE
01:43:41PM SOME OTHER WAY TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME.
01:43:43PM WE HAD SITUATIONS BEFORE WHERE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WOULD ASK
01:43:47PM FOR FREE TICKETS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE
01:43:50PM TO DO BECAUSE OF HOW LITTLE CITY COUNCIL IS PAID.
01:43:58PM I THINK IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE POSITION THAT THE
01:44:00PM POSITION IS PAID SO LOW, ESPECIALLY IN PROPORTION TO WHAT
01:44:03PM THE MAYOR GETS PAID OR WHAT THE MAYOR'S STAFF GETS PAID.
01:44:07PM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SETTING UP A VALUE AS TODAY WHAT YOU
01:44:15PM THINK CITY COUNCIL IS WORTH.
01:44:16PM WE SEE WHAT ONE ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT OF COUNCIL.
01:44:20PM THAT IS WHY IT IS ARTIFICIALLY LOW.
01:44:23PM I THINK LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITIES GET PAID IS NOT THE
01:44:26PM RIGHT BENCHMARK.
01:44:28PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT GOOD GOVERNMENT.
01:44:30PM ENOUGH THERE SO SOMEONE CAN POTENTIAL ALLEY WORK FULL-TIME.
01:44:35PM I BELIEVE IN FAIR GOVERNMENT AND PAYING A FAIR WAGE.
01:44:39PM THAT IS WHY I VOTED FOR THIS THE LAST TIME.
01:44:41PM IT DID NOT PASS THEN, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOW THE MAYOR'S
01:44:46PM CHIEF OF STAFF CAME AND PROPOSE IF TO US.
01:44:48PM I SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPICIOUS AT THAT POINT.
01:44:50PM BUT IT DIDN'T PASS.
01:44:51PM IN THE CAMPAIGN LAST YEAR, THE MAYOR HELPED RAISED 100,000
01:44:56PM TO RUN NEGATIVE ADS AGAINST ME TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT VOTED
01:45:01PM TO GET A RAISE.
01:45:02PM GUESS WHAT, IT DIDN'T WORK.
01:45:03PM I GOT 60% OF THE VOTE OUTSPENT SEVEN TO ONE BY THEIR PEOPLE.
01:45:08PM TO ME IT IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE, BUT WHAT I AM LOOKING AT,
01:45:11PM HOW CAN WE PROTECT CITY COUNCILS IN THE FUTURE.
01:45:14PM THREE YEARS I WON'T BE ON CITY COUNCIL ANYMORE, AND I WANT TO
01:45:18PM MAKE SURE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PAID A FAIR WAGE.
01:45:25PM AIM NOT IN FAVOR OF VOTING FOR A WAGE FOR OURSELF.
01:45:29PM I WANT TO VOTE ON A FORMULA -- IF IT ONLY EFFECTS US, I AM
01:45:35PM OKAY WITH THAT.
01:45:35PM I WANT A FORMULA SO NO CITY COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON THIS
01:45:38PM AGAIN.
01:45:39PM IN THE PAST, I RECOMMENDED A CHARTER AMENDMENT WHICH WAS SHOT
01:45:42PM DOWN.
01:45:43PM THE CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT EVERY THREE YEARS A COMMITTEE
01:45:45PM WILL BE PULLED TOGETHER TO SET THE MAYOR'S SALARY AND THE
01:45:48PM CITY COUNCIL WILL BE 60% OF THAT THE MAYOR'S PR PEOPLE SAID
01:45:59PM THEY THOUGHT I SHOULD GET A HUGE RAGE.
01:46:01PM CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE POPULATED WITH PEOPLE WITH STRONG
01:46:06PM ETHICS.
01:46:06PM WE NEED A PERCENTAGE.
01:46:07PM IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T BELIEVE WE ARE WORTH 60% OF WHATEVER THE
01:46:11PM MAYOR -- 60% -- THAT IS A SLIGHT TOWARD COUNCIL 60% OF THE
01:46:18PM MAYOR.
01:46:19PM 40 OR 50%.
01:46:21PM IF IT IS A PERCENTAGE, IT IS A FORMULA GOING FORWARD AND A
01:46:24PM CHARTER AMENDMENT AND SOMETHING WE WILL PUT IN THE ORDINANCE
01:46:27PM BUT NO CITY COUNCIL SHOULD VOTE ON THIS IN THE FUTURE SO WE
01:46:30PM OUGHT TO VOTE ON A FORMULA RATHER THAN JUST A NUMBER.
01:46:33PM THANK YOU.
01:46:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:46:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON IT BECAUSE I
01:46:39PM SPOKEN ON IT IN THE PAST.
01:46:41PM TO STATE MY POSITION.
01:46:42PM ANY COMPANY DOES AN EVALUATION BASED ON THE JOB AND IT
01:46:47PM CREATES A SALARY EXPECTATION BASED ON THE JOB AND MARKET
01:46:54PM DEMAND.
01:46:54PM I BELIEVE THE CITY DOES ITS DUE DILIGENCE.
01:46:58PM I SPOKEN TO CHIEF BENNETT AND DENNIS ABOUT IT WHAT THEY DID
01:47:03PM AS FAR AS THEIR DUE DILIGENCE DOING THE RESEARCH TO FIND
01:47:06PM EXACTLY WHAT AN APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION LEVEL WILL BE.
01:47:09PM I AM ABOUT -- NOT JUST IN THIS, BUT EVERY ACTION WE TAKE THE
01:47:13PM ON COUNCIL, IT IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS.
01:47:15PM IT IS NOT ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST DOING THE RIGHT
01:47:19PM THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND THE TAXPAYERS OF TAMPA I
01:47:23PM THINK IF WE -- IF FOLKS SIT UP HERE ON THE COUNCIL BY
01:47:28PM PROJECTING -- AND ALL DUE RESPECT TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:47:31PM BY SAYING WE WILL NOT TAKE IT UP HERE.
01:47:34PM IT IS POLITICS.
01:47:35PM IT IS EITHER THE JOB IS WORTH X AMOUNT OF MONEY OR IT'S NOT.
01:47:39PM IT IS WORTH THAT MONEY TODAY.
01:47:41PM OR IT IS WORTH THAT MONEY TOMORROW.
01:47:43PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
01:47:44PM IF -- AND I -- AND I'M HERE -- I AM WILLING TO GO WITH
01:47:48PM EVERYBODY ABOUT LET'S DETERMINE WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE
01:47:52PM SALARY FOR THIS POSITION AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
01:47:56PM I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE OUT ALL OF THE EXTRA NOISE.
01:48:00PM AGAIN, I BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION -- IT WASN'T US, BUT THE
01:48:03PM ADMINISTRATION DID AN ANALYSIS.
01:48:04PM AND THEY CAME UP WITH THESE FIGURES AND DETERMINATION BASED
01:48:09PM ON LOOKING AT DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND DOING THESE
01:48:12PM THINGS.
01:48:12PM I BELIEVE THAT CHIEF BENNETT IS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT OF
01:48:18PM DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
01:48:19PM HE HAS DONE IT IN HIS PAST LIVES.
01:48:21PM I TRUST HIS MATH.
01:48:22PM AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO MANIPULATING IT.
01:48:25PM I DON'T WANT TO GETS INTO -- WELL, MAYBE GET THAT PERCENTAGE
01:48:29PM OR THAT PERCENTAGE.
01:48:30PM LET'S JUST STICK WITH THE FACTS.
01:48:32PM LET THE FACTS TAKE USES TO WHERE WE ARE GOING AND I THINK
01:48:36PM THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
01:48:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:48:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:48:42PM I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY DISPUTE FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM
01:48:45PM FOLKS UP HERE THAT THIS POSITION SHOULD BE PAID MORE.
01:48:48PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS AN ISSUE IN DISPUTE.
01:48:52PM FOR ME THE PRINCIPLE SHOULD BE A ELECTION BEFORE A
01:48:57PM LEGISLATIVE BODY GETS THE ADJUSTMENT OF A SALARY INCREASE.
01:49:01PM THAT'S IT.
01:49:03PM THAT IS THE CENTRAL ISSUE THAT IS HERE.
01:49:05PM A PRINCIPLE.
01:49:06PM NOT SOMETHING THAT IS POLITICAL AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
01:49:10PM COMMENTS ON IT.
01:49:10PM ETC.
01:49:11PM I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR.
01:49:12PM WE HAVE A -- OBVIOUSLY IT IS NOT BINDING ON CITY COUNCIL,
01:49:16PM BUT THE 27th AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
01:49:18PM THAT SAYS FOR CONGRESS, WE WILL NOT GET THE BENEFITS OF A
01:49:22PM PAY INCREASE UNTIL AFTER THEY HAD THE ELECTION, RIGHT.
01:49:25PM GOOD ENOUGH FOR CONGRESS AND GOOD ENOUGH FOR CITY COUNCIL.
01:49:30PM I AM GLAD TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF A PAY INCREASE FOR THE TAMPA
01:49:34PM CITY COUNCIL.
01:49:35PM YOU WILL HAVE ME SAYING YES TO THAT 110%.
01:49:38PM BUT I CAN'T VOTE ON SOMETHING NOT INFLATION-ADJUSTED AND
01:49:42PM BENEFITS THE CITY BEFORE THE PEOPLE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON
01:49:46PM THIS THROUGH THE POLITICAL PROCESS.
01:49:47PM THAT IS MY PRINCIPLE I HAVE ON THIS.
01:49:49PM AGAIN, PUSH IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL.
01:49:51PM VOTE YES ON THAT.
01:49:53PM GLAD TO DO THAT.
01:49:54PM 110%.
01:49:55PM I WOULD LIKE THAT.
01:49:56PM IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, BY THE AWAY, YOU HAVE MY WORD IN 2026,
01:50:02PM WHATEVER IT IS THAT I WILL BRING IT UP FOR THE NEXT CITY
01:50:06PM COUNCIL.
01:50:06PM I WILL BRING IT UP.
01:50:07PM IF IT DOESN'T PASS TODAY, I WILL, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO RUN FOR
01:50:10PM THAT NEXT SEAT SHOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT PROMISE.
01:50:14PM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
01:50:16PM YOU WILL GET MORE DIVERSE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL.
01:50:19PM HAVE DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL.
01:50:27PM THAT FOR ME IS THE DEPOSITIVE ISSUE.
01:50:30PM >> THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE THE LAST TIME!
01:50:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STOP!
01:50:45PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
01:50:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU
01:50:50PM SAID BEFORE THE LAST ELECTION.
01:50:52PM BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
01:50:53PM I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF BENNETT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
01:50:56PM QUESTIONS AT THIS HOUR.
01:50:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO NOT KNOW.
01:51:03PM HE MAY BE ON ELECTRONICALLY.
01:51:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF HE IS ON ELECTRONICALLY, THAT IS GREAT.
01:51:10PM MISS POYNOR WAS MENTIONED SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL HER UP TO
01:51:15PM ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
01:51:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO?
01:51:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:51:20PM MISS POYNOR.
01:51:22PM AND THE REASON I AM ASKING YOU UP IS BECAUSE MR. MIRANDA
01:51:29PM ASKED ABOUT HOW WE CAME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS AND SINCE
01:51:33PM CHIEF BENNETT IS NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN HOW HE CAME UP WITH HIS
01:51:37PM NUMBERS.
01:51:37PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN VERY BRIEFLY HOW YOU CAME UP
01:51:42PM WITH THE EXTERNAL JURISDICTIONAL ANALYSIS THAT YOU HAVE.
01:51:45PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:51:49PM I SPENT SOME TIME CALLING DIFFERENT CITIES.
01:51:52PM TALKING TO PEOPLE ON THE PHONE.
01:51:53PM SENDING E-MAILS.
01:51:54PM IT WAS VERY NICE FOR THE CITY COUNCILS THAT HAD THEIR OWN
01:51:59PM ADMINISTRATOR.
01:52:00PM BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ANSWERED ME INSTANTANEOUSLY WHERE YOU
01:52:06PM GUYS DON'T HAVE YOUR OWN PERSON WHO TAKES OVER EVERYBODY.
01:52:10PM I AM SORRY IF I -- THIS THING IS SMARTER THAN I AM TODAY.
01:52:13PM AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE A COPY OF IT, BUT I DID NOT
01:52:18PM DO THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO IN LIFE.
01:52:21PM AND I CALLED A COUPLE OF PLACES LIKE CLEVELAND.
01:52:24PM CLEVELAND HAD ACTUALLY WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
01:52:27PM ST. PETE HAD WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
01:52:29PM I AM THINKING $15,000 A YEAR SINCE TWO YEARS AGO.
01:52:32PM I THINK CLEVELAND WENT UP TO THE $96,000 RANGE.
01:52:43PM QUITE A FEW CITIES.
01:52:44PM WHEN I TOOK ALL OF THIS DATA TOGETHER AND THESE WERE THE
01:52:48PM AVERAGES, BUT WHAT I ACTUALLY DID -- AND THE SHEETS I GAVE
01:52:51PM YOU THIS MORNING.
01:52:51PM I GAVE THE SHEETS TO OLIVIA GEORGE.
01:52:54PM PINK ONES THAT YOU HAVE.
01:52:55PM WHAT I DID WAS UPDATED THE INFORMATION.
01:52:58PM AND SO THE -- IT WAS FOR FY '22.
01:53:02PM THAT WAS THE BUDGET YEAR THAT WE WERE IN.
01:53:04PM AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT SINCE THAT FY '22, WHEN WE
01:53:11PM LOOKED AT FY '24.
01:53:14PM PEOPLE'S SALARIES HAVE GONE UP $20,000 A YEAR.
01:53:19PM THESE SALARIES HERE ARE FOR THE TOP FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE IN
01:53:23PM EACH DEPARTMENT.
01:53:25PM THE TOP -- THE BIGGEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.
01:53:28PM OKAY.
01:53:29PM AND SO WHAT I DID WAS, I TOOK ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND ADDED
01:53:34PM THEM UP AND DIVIDED IT BY EIGHT.
01:53:36PM THEN I SAID, CITY COUNCIL IS A PART-TIME POSITION.
01:53:41PM WHAT IS HALF OF THAT.
01:53:42PM SO THAT NUMBER -- THAT -- THAT NUMBER WAS $73,000 TWO YEARS
01:53:46PM AGO.
01:53:47PM I AM NOT BASING MY INFORMATION OTHER ON WHAT ELSE IN THE
01:53:56PM CITY IS GETTING PAID.
01:53:57PM NOBODY IS GETTING A 3% RAISE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ANYMORE.
01:54:01PM SO THIS TIME, WE HAD A $20,000 INCREASE FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT
01:54:05PM ARE ON THAT LIST.
01:54:06PM SO IF YOU GO FROM THE WHITE SHEET TO THE PINK SHEET THAT I
01:54:10PM GAVE YOU THIS MORNING.
01:54:11PM THAT IS WHY I MADE THEM DIFFERENT COLORS.
01:54:13PM IT WAS $20,000 ACROSS -- YOU KNOW, THAT -- THAT IS THE
01:54:17PM AVERAGE.
01:54:17PM AND I JUST WANT TO YOU DO THE MATH.
01:54:20PM IF THAT $20,000 FOR THEM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE A
01:54:26PM $2,000-A-YEAR RAISE.
01:54:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:54:29PM THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE COUNCIL
01:54:32PM SALARIES.
01:54:33PM >> THANK YOU.
01:54:35PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE OUTBURST.
01:54:38PM I COULDN'T STAND IT ANYMORE.
01:54:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. ROGERO, IS HE AVAILABLE?
01:54:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I TEXTED HIM.
01:54:46PM I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
01:54:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I.
01:54:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
01:54:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:54:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:54:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN RESPOND.
01:54:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: SHOULD I GO, MR. CHAIR.
01:54:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BENNETT IS NOW AVAILABLE TO ANSWER MY
01:55:02PM QUESTION.
01:55:02PM CHIEF BENNETT, HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
01:55:06PM >>JOHN BENNETT: DOING WELL, THANK YOU.
01:55:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD.
01:55:09PM THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER HOW YOU GOT TO THE NUMBER YOU
01:55:12PM GOT TO WHICH I BELIEVE IT WAS $73,000 LAST YEAR.
01:55:15PM ALL I AM ASKING IS FOR AN EXPLANATION OF HOW YOU GOT TO THAT
01:55:19PM NUMBER.
01:55:23PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SO AFTER THE INFORMAL REQUEST IN OCTOBER, WE
01:55:26PM SAW MRS. POYNOR'S E-MAIL IN APRIL.
01:55:30PM AS WE WERE PREPARING THE BUDGET, I ASKED STAFF TO DO THEIR
01:55:33PM OWN COMPARISON ANALYSIS SEPARATE AND APART FROM WHAT
01:55:38PM MISS POYNOR DID.
01:55:40PM AND ARRIVED AT THE OTHER NUMBER THAT MR. ROGERO TALKED ABOUT
01:55:44PM THE 73,173 WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT MISS POYNOR CAME UP
01:55:50PM WITH.
01:55:50PM WHAT IT DID WAS PART OF IT LOOKED AT THE INTERNAL CITY
01:55:54PM SALARIES AND MADE A CALCULATION BASED ON THE WORKLOAD OF
01:55:58PM COUNCIL, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY THE MEDIAN SALARY OF CITY
01:56:03PM EMPLOYEES.
01:56:04PM DOING A COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE AND MAKING
01:56:08PM ADJUSTMENTS FOR POPULATION.
01:56:10PM TAMPA BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST.
01:56:12PM AND ALSO PUTTING A WORKLOAD FACTOR ON THAT.
01:56:17PM COINCIDENTALLY OR NOT IT CAME UP CLOSE TO WHAT MISS POYNOR
01:56:23PM CAME UP WITH A BUDGETED AMOUNT IN 2023 RECOMMENDED AND
01:56:28PM SUPPORTED BY THE MAYOR AT THE TIME.
01:56:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:56:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE SHE
01:56:32PM HAVEN'T SPOKEN AND THEN I WILL GO BACK AROUND.
01:56:34PM YES, MA'AM.
01:56:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
01:56:36PM GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
01:56:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON.
01:56:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BEING THE EDUCATOR I AM, I AM THE PERSON
01:56:42PM THAT BROUGHT THIS UP A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO REGARDING THE
01:56:46PM SALARIES.
01:56:47PM AT ONE TIME, I DID ASSUME THIS WAS A PART-TIME JOB.
01:56:52PM AND TO SOME DEGREE IT IS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY
01:56:57PM TO DECIDE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT ATTEND.
01:57:00PM THE PART THAT ACTUALLY SURPRISED ME IS THAT -- THE COMMUNITY
01:57:05PM ASKED A LOT OF US IN TERMS OF EVENTS AND THIS WAS A BIG
01:57:10PM SURPRISE TO ME.
01:57:11PM SOMETIMES THESE EVENTS ARE AT NO CHARGE TO US.
01:57:14PM SOMETIMES THEY ARE ASKING FOR FUNDS TO COVER THE COST OF THE
01:57:17PM EXPENSES.
01:57:17PM ALSO PARKING IS -- WAS ANOTHER BUSINESS SURPRISE.
01:57:21PM THAT ACTUALLY DOESN'T BOTHER ME WHEN I REALLY WANT TO
01:57:25PM SUPPORT SOMETHING.
01:57:25PM ASIDE FROM THAT, I BELIEVE THAT THE SALARY IS DATED FOR THE
01:57:32PM POSITION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
01:57:36PM I WANT TO ASK MR. ROGERO A QUESTION.
01:57:39PM THE CURRENT COUNCILMEMBERS RIGHT NOW, THE STARTING SALARY IS
01:57:44PM $55,000.
01:57:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: APPROXIMATELY, YES.
01:57:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS NOT TRUE.
01:57:49PM MINE IS $3,000 LESS THAN THAT.
01:57:51PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE $55,000
01:57:56PM IS EVEN A SURPRISE TO ME.
01:57:57PM WHEN I -- WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP, OF COURSE, MY CONSTITUENTS
01:58:03PM REACHED OUT TO ME.
01:58:04PM AND THEY FEEL AS THOUGH I SHOULD NOT GIVE MYSELF A RAISE OF
01:58:09PM THIS CAPACITY.
01:58:10PM AND I ACTUALLY DO AGREE WITH THAT.
01:58:12PM IF IT IS FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
01:58:17PM THAT IS FAIR.
01:58:18PM IT IS NOT OF A SELFISH NATURE IN THAT WAY.
01:58:21PM I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE AT
01:58:25PM THIS HIGHER NUMBER.
01:58:26PM WHEN I PRESENTED IT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT AT
01:58:30PM 15% INCREASE WHICH TOOK IT $630,000 -- A LITTLE OVER
01:58:36PM $60,000, RANGED BETWEEN $6,000 TO $7,000, A 40% INCREASE IS
01:58:41PM PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
01:58:41PM I DON'T WANT TO CONSTANTLY GET THE FEEDBACK AND THE HITS
01:58:45PM FROM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I GAVE MYSELF THE 40% RAISE.
01:58:49PM JUST A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER AND I THINK THAT IS SUN FAIR TO
01:58:52PM OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE DID NOT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AT
01:58:57PM THE PETITION BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET YEAR.
01:58:59PM SO IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT IN THIS ROLE, IF YOU -- IF WE
01:59:05PM PROBABLY DID A STUDY OF THE POSSIBILITY OF WHO COULD WORK IN
01:59:08PM THIS POSITION, IT IS PEOPLE WITH VERY SUPPORTIVE COMPANIES
01:59:12PM OR THEY WORK FOR THEMSELVES OR VERY SUPPORTIVE SUPERVISORS.
01:59:18PM I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A VERY SUPPORTIVE SUPERVISOR THAT
01:59:23PM ALLOWS ME TO WORK A FLEXIBLE SCHEDULE.
01:59:26PM NOT EVERYBODY WILL BE IN THAT POSITION.
01:59:28PM TEND TO GO FOR SOMEONE WHO IS A TWO-INCOME FAMILY OR WORK
01:59:34PM FOR THEMSELVES OR HIGH INCOME JOB WHERE THEY HAVE THE
01:59:37PM ABILITY TO BE COME TO COUNCIL.
01:59:38PM WE SHOULD NOT PIGEONHOLE THE POSITION TO A PERSON TYPE OF
01:59:43PM PERSON.
01:59:43PM ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
01:59:45PM AND REPRESENTATIVE -- THIS BODY SHOULD BE REPETITIVE OF WHAT
01:59:50PM THE COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE.
01:59:51PM AND SO -- IN OTHER WORDS, IN PRESIDENT BOLDNESS OF SAYING
01:59:55PM IT.
01:59:55PM DISTRICT 5 SHOULD NOT THE ONLY TIME THAT A BLACK PERSON BE
02:00:00PM ON COUNCIL OR A WOMAN BECAUSE WE ARE APPOINTED OR THINGS
02:00:04PM LIKE THAT AND THEN WE RUN.
02:00:05PM WE SHOULD HAVE A VERY DIVERSE BODY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
02:00:08PM REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE
02:00:11PM DECISIONS.
02:00:12PM BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT 40% IN ONE LUMP SUM FOR MYSELF, BECAUSE
02:00:17PM THERE IS SOME SELFISHNESS TO THAT; HOWEVER, I CAN SEE THAT
02:00:21PM THE -- THAT THE POSITION -- THE ACTUAL SCOPE OF THE JOB AND
02:00:26PM THE SALARY IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PAY.
02:00:29PM IT IS JUST NOT.
02:00:31PM AND SO WHEN THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE BY SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE
02:00:35PM PEOPLE WHO SIT UP HERE, THAT CAME FROM THE ACTUAL STAFF.
02:00:40PM I IS IT NOT KNOW IF IT WAS POLITICIZED OR NOT.
02:00:43PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS POSITION OF VOTING FOR IT FOR
02:00:46PM THE NEXT CYCLE -- OR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE WILL HAVE BEEN
02:00:51PM THE CYCLE THAT ALAN CLENDENIN WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED.
02:00:54PM THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE START OF IT.
02:00:56PM I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT DECISION WASN'T MADE THEN TO KEEP THE
02:01:00PM SELFISHNESS OUT OF IT THAT WAY.
02:01:02PM BUT I CAN SUPPORT IT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE BECAUSE IT
02:01:06PM IS IMPORTANT TO BRING IT IN ALIGNMENT WITH A LIVABLE WAGE.
02:01:11PM A LIVABLE WAGE.
02:01:12PM AND THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY ABOUT IT.
02:01:15PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CHAIR.
02:01:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I GO TO THE SECOND
02:01:20PM ROUND?
02:01:21PM ALL RIGHT.
02:01:22PM COUNCILMAN VIERA HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST.
02:01:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:01:26PM I DID WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE
02:01:29PM AND MISS POYNOR, I APPRECIATE YOUR STATEMENTS AFTER THAT FOR
02:01:34PM REGRET OR WHATEVER, BUT I DO WANT TO SPEAK OF THE EMOTIONS
02:01:37PM SURROUNDING THIS ISSUE.
02:01:38PM EASY FOR ME TO SAY TO COUNCILMEMBERS WHO HAD THIS ISSUE USED
02:01:42PM AGAINST THEM.
02:01:42PM LET'S DISCONNECT THE EMOTION FROM THIS ISSUE.
02:01:45PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:01:46PM I REALLY DO.
02:01:47PM I DIDN'T HAVE ADS RUN AGAINST ME ON A VOTE ON RAISING YOUR
02:01:52PM SALARY.
02:01:52PM AND THAT IS VERY EMOTIONAL.
02:01:54PM I GET IT 100%.
02:01:57PM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO TOWNSHIP HATE TO THAT.
02:02:00PM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
02:02:01PM LAST COUNCIL, WE VOTED ON A SALARY INCREASE TO GO INTO
02:02:06PM EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
02:02:07PM I VOTED NO.
02:02:08PM THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE WILL VOTE FOR SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT
02:02:12PM COUNCIL.
02:02:12PM TO TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY AND I VIOLATED THE PRINCIPLE THAT
02:02:18PM I STATED HERE TODAY.
02:02:19PM NO INCONSISTENCY.
02:02:23PM MY PRINCIPLE IS THE SAME AS IT WAS THEN.
02:02:26PM WE VOTE TO A NONINFLATION INCREASE TO INCREASE OF OUR
02:02:31PM VALERIE, THERE SHOULD AT FIRST BE AN ELECTION.
02:02:34PM I SAID THAT YESTERDAY AND I WILL AGAIN SAY THAT TODAY.
02:02:37PM IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, I WILL BE GLAD TO MAKE A MOTION FOR
02:02:40PM THE NEXT COUNCIL.
02:02:41PM I WOULD BE THE ONE TO DO IT IF IT DOESN'T PASS.
02:02:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:02:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HEAR THE AVERAGE INCOME OF A POPULATION
02:02:50PM OF A CITY.
02:02:50PM WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, LOOKING TO GO NO CAREY, NORTH
02:02:57PM CAROLINA.
02:02:57PM AND UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA MAYBE WILL GO TO THE WORLD SERIES
02:03:02PM AND WIN AND I WANT TO BE THERE.
02:03:03PM SCROLLING THROUGH THE THINGS.
02:03:04PM I AM LOOKING AT THE POPULATION THAT CAME UP, I WASN'T
02:03:08PM LOOKING FOR IT, $8,000 AVERAGE INCREASE OF SALARIES PEOPLE
02:03:14PM LIVE IN CAREY, NORTH CAROLINA AND CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA
02:03:18PM THAN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
02:03:19PM WE CAN'T LOOK AT THE INCREASE IN SALARY BASED ON THE
02:03:22PM POPULATION OF THE CITY.
02:03:24PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE INCOME OF THE POPULATION WITHIN THAT
02:03:29PM CITY.
02:03:29PM THAT IS SIMPLE MATH.
02:03:32PM NUMBER TWO, I TRAINED RACEHORSES FOR FEW YEARS.
02:03:36PM BASED IN CINCINNATI SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
02:03:38PM I WENT TO CLEVELAND MANY TIMES.
02:03:40PM WHAT I KNEW ABOUT CLEVELAND WAS THAT THEY HAD TWO AIDES AND
02:03:48PM ONE COUNCILMEMBER AND MAYBE IT CHANGED SINCE THEN.
02:03:51PM AN OFFICE IN CITY HALL AND AN OFFICE IN THE DISTRICT.
02:03:54PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE INCOME OF CLEVELAND, IT IS GOING LIKE
02:03:57PM THIS -- NOT LIKE THIS.
02:04:00PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS THE CAUSE, BUT SALARIES ARE ONE
02:04:04PM THING.
02:04:07PM I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.
02:04:08PM I AM NOT AGAINST SALARIES, BUT TO SUPPORT A $20,000 RAISE AS
02:04:13PM I AM SITTING HERE MYSELF.
02:04:18PM IT IS NOT WHETHER YOU DESERVE IT OR NOT, BUT THE PEOPLE YOU
02:04:22PM SERVE NOT ONLY IN THIS CITY BUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND THIS
02:04:25PM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS SUFFERING IMMENSELY -- IMMENSELY
02:04:30PM FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE.
02:04:31PM IMMENSELY NOT AFFORDING THE INSURANCE ON THE HOUSE IF THEY
02:04:36PM BOUGHT ONE OR THE CAR OR FOOD INCREASE, INCREASED 23% IN THE
02:04:41PM LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
02:04:42PM I AM GOING TO GIVE MYSELF A RAISE FOR $12,000?
02:04:47PM NOT IS HOW I WAS RAISED IN THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY
02:04:50PM PROJECTS.
02:04:50PM AND I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY THAT.
02:04:53PM IT IS SOMETHING YOU TAKE WITH YOU.
02:04:55PM I AM NOT OPPOSED WITH SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY THINKS IS
02:04:59PM RIGHT.
02:04:59PM THAT IS HOW WE GOT ELECTED.
02:05:01PM WE HAVE DIFFERENCES ALL THE TIME ON ANY SUBJECT MATTERS.
02:05:05PM BUT WHAT THAT MEANS -- IT IS HOW I WAS RAISED.
02:05:08PM I KNEW THE JOB WHEN I GOT INTO IT.
02:05:10PM I DON'T WANT HEAR ANY EXCUSES.
02:05:14PM YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.
02:05:16PM I KNEW WHAT THE SALARY WAS.
02:05:17PM I HAD TWO OR THREE JOBS MY WHOLE DAMN LIFE.
02:05:21PM I WIPED TOILETS.
02:05:23PM I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN THINK OF.
02:05:25PM AND I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY IT.
02:05:27PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:05:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN
02:05:31PM CARLSON.
02:05:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I -- SO YOU ARE TALKING OF HOW MUCH PEOPLE
02:05:35PM MAKE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:05:36PM YOU DON'T THINK IT IS VERY HIGH.
02:05:37PM MISS FEELEY, COULD YOU COME AND TELL US WHAT THE AREA MEDIAN
02:05:41PM INCOME IS CURRENTLY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA?
02:05:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HOPE YOU ARE INCLUDING SPORTS.
02:05:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE WE
02:06:03PM HAD THE HOUSING WORKSHOP AND IT HAD INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.
02:06:07PM OH, NO, IT IS LIKE 71 OR 80.
02:06:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR.
02:06:21PM IF YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE OF MINUTES, I WILL PULL IT UP.
02:06:25PM I THINK I REMEMBER $79,000 -- GIVE ME A MOMENT.
02:06:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE NUMBERS JUST CHANGED.
02:06:35PM WHILE THEY ARE FINDING IT -- THAT IS FINE.
02:06:44PM I THINK CARLSON WAS NEXT.
02:06:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, MAYBE YOU WILL TAKE MOTIONS AT THE
02:06:51PM END, BUT WHAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO
02:06:55PM SET THE CITY COUNCIL SALARY AT 50% OF THE MAYOR'S SALARY
02:06:59PM STARTING ON MAY 1, 2027.
02:07:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:07:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION LATER?
02:07:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
02:07:09PM HE HAS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:07:12PM YES, SIR.
02:07:14PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:07:17PM BEFORE WE COMPLETE THAT, I WANT TO REMIND YOU SECTION 6.06
02:07:22PM OF THE CHARTER ALLOWS SALARIES OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE
02:07:27PM INCREASED OR DECREASED BY RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE APPROVED
02:07:30PM BY THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND APPROVED IN
02:07:32PM WRITING BY THE MAYOR.
02:07:33PM HISTORICALLY HOW WE HAVE DONE THIS IS A RESOLUTION WHICH
02:07:37PM WILL HAVE THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE ON IT TO SET OUT THE
02:07:40PM PARAMETERS OF THE INCREASE.
02:07:41PM WE DID THIS IN 2008 WHERE THE INCREASE HAPPENED AT THE NEXT
02:07:45PM TERM OF CITY COUNCIL SO WE HAVE A PRECEDENT OF DOING
02:07:48PM SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.
02:07:49PM THANK YOU.
02:07:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HIS MOTION IS IN ORDER, CORRECT?
02:07:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, THE ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE TO BE
02:07:58PM APPROVED BY THE MAYOR ANYWAY.
02:08:00PM AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE SUPERMAJORITY.
02:08:02PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION AND YOU WOULD DIRECT
02:08:06PM THE LEGAL STAFF TO BRING BACK A RESOLUTION WITH THE INCREASE.
02:08:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE IDEA IS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL GO
02:08:10PM ON UNTIL SOMEBODY CHANGED IT SO THAT NO CITY COUNCIL WILL
02:08:14PM HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN.
02:08:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MUCH DOES THE MAYOR MAKE?
02:08:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: $190,000.
02:08:22PM WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND THE NUMBER?
02:08:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
02:08:25PM I WAS JUST PROVIDED BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTFOLIO,
02:08:29PM $671,089 IS THE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY.
02:08:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO IT IS RIGHT ABOUT HERE.
02:08:35PM SO, MR. MIRANDA, PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN DOING BETTER.
02:08:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:08:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT ANYTHING
02:08:49PM OTHER THAN THE BUSINESS MODEL OF FOLLOWING THE ANALYTICS,
02:08:55PM EVALUATE WHAT THE POSITION IS WORTH, AND TAKE THE VOTE.
02:08:58PM ANY OTHER MANIPULATION BY DEFERRING, BY CHANGING FORMULAS,
02:09:04PM BY DOING -- IS NOTHING MORE THAN JUST SHALLOW POLITICS.
02:09:09PM IT'S -- WE NEED TO -- YOU KNOW -- STAND UP AND SAY EITHER
02:09:16PM SUPPORT THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY JOHN BENNETT AND THE
02:09:20PM ADMINISTRATION AND HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE AS FACTS OR JUST
02:09:23PM SAY NO.
02:09:26PM BECAUSE IF YOU RUN A BUSINESS, YOU SET THE SALARIES BASED ON
02:09:31PM THOSE ANALYTICS.
02:09:33PM YOU DON'T -- IT IS NOT SUPPOSITION.
02:09:35PM IT IS NOT POLITICS.
02:09:37PM IT IS NOT DEFERRAL.
02:09:39PM THE POSITION IS EITHER WORTH IT OR IT IS NOT.
02:09:41PM I WILL STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH YOU ALL.
02:09:45PM I AM NOT PUSHING FOR THIS STUFF BECAUSE I LED A LUCKY LIFE
02:09:48PM AS WELL.
02:09:49PM NOT SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY, BUT I WILL
02:09:52PM SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
02:09:54PM I WILL STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH YOU.
02:09:56PM I WILL TAKE THE POLITICAL HITS OF TAKING A SALARY IF THAT IS
02:10:01PM WHAT IT TAKES.
02:10:02PM BUT I NEED TO MAKE AN POLITICAL, NONBIASED BLACK AND WHITE
02:10:06PM DECISION AND SCREW THE POLITICS.
02:10:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:10:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MAYOR'S SALARY IS ARBITRARY.
02:10:15PM JUST BECAUSE BENNETT PRESENTED IT DOESN'T MEAN ITS FACT.
02:10:19PM YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COUNCILS ARE MAKING, BUT WHAT WE
02:10:22PM HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT HOW WE PROMOTE GOOD GOVERNMENT AND
02:10:25PM WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN DO.
02:10:28PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE AFTER THREE YEARS WHEN I AM NOT ON
02:10:31PM COUNCIL, WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE.
02:10:34PM PROBABLY SOME OF YOU WILL STILL BE HERE.
02:10:35PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS FAIRLY PAID.
02:10:38PM AND JUST BECAUSE WE ARE COMPARING -- LIKE THE ECONOMIC
02:10:41PM NUMBERS.
02:10:41PM YOU DON'T COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES, YOU DON'T KNOW YOU ARE
02:10:46PM FAILING.
02:10:46PM JUST BECAUSE OTHER CITY COUNCILS ARE NOT PAYING ENOUGH
02:10:50PM DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD CONDEMN THE FUTURE COUNCIL NOT TO GET
02:10:53PM PAID ENOUGH.
02:10:53PM I ORIGINALLY PROPOSED A CHARTER AMENDMENT SAYING THERE
02:10:58PM SHOULD BE A SALARY REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT WILL SET THE
02:11:02PM MAYOR'S SALARY AND CITY COUNCIL WILL BE A PERCENTAGE OF
02:11:06PM THAT.
02:11:06PM WHERE DID THE MAYOR'S SALARY COME FROM?
02:11:09PM WHERE IS THE ANALYSIS ON THAT?
02:11:11PM WE ARE NOT PUBLICLY DISCUSSING IT.
02:11:13PM WE NEED GOOD GOVERNMENT.
02:11:15PM I DON'T CARE IF WE APPROVE THIS OR NOT.
02:11:17PM I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT BUT SOME KIND OF
02:11:21PM FORMULA OR PROCESS SO NO CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE THIS
02:11:24PM AGAIN.
02:11:25PM THANK YOU.
02:11:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
02:11:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
02:11:29PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:11:31PM I SEE IF YOU WERE TO MAKE IT $73,000 AND CHANGE WITH
02:11:34PM INFLATION ADJUSTMENT UNTIL THEN, I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION
02:11:37PM IF YOU WANT THAT.
02:11:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND FROM
02:11:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:11:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SECOND IT.
02:11:46PM 50% OF WHAT THE MAYOR -- I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.
02:11:49PM SOMETHING THAT THE STUDY FOUND AND HE DID OFFICER IT UNTIL
02:11:52PM 2027 BINDING FOR THAT COUNCIL, 110 IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
02:11:58PM 50% OF WHAT THE MAYOR'S SALARY IS, NOT SOMETHING I WOULD
02:12:03PM REPORT.
02:12:03PM PUT THIS NUMBER FOR INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE NEXT
02:12:08PM COUNCIL, YOU HAVE MY VOTE.
02:12:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:12:11PM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:12:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL LIKE MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE
02:12:18PM MOTION ORDINANCE.
02:12:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:12:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO MAKE IT MAY 5 FOR $73,713.
02:12:25PM AND FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, TASK THIS COUNCIL TO PUT TOGETHER
02:12:34PM -- 2024.
02:12:35PM IT IS A THEY CAN COUNCIL TO PUT TOGETHER A WORK GROUP TO
02:12:39PM CREATE A LONGER TERM LOUIS OF SETTING SALARIES FOR THE
02:12:43PM COUNCIL WHETHER THAT BE A CHARTER AMENDMENT OR A GROUP YOU
02:12:47PM JUST REFERRED TO WHICH WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA TO TAKE THE
02:12:50PM POLITICS OUT OF IT AND THIS WILL GIVE US SOME SHORT-TERM
02:12:53PM RELIEF AND A LONGER-TERM PLAN OF A MORE ANALYTICAL WAY TO
02:12:58PM SETTING SALARIES.
02:13:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SHELBY?
02:13:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO SECOND YET.
02:13:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTIONED TO AMEND AND NO SECOND YET.
02:13:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MAIN MOTION THAT DEALS
02:13:14PM WITH --
02:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD CANCEL IT OUT.
02:13:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT MOTION WILL STILL STAY IN EFFECT BUT
02:13:18PM WILL GIVE US A SHORT-TERM SALARY BUMP TO GET US TO THE 2027
02:13:22PM DATE.
02:13:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AMEND THAT MOTION AND THEN TAKE UP THAT
02:13:26PM MAIN MOTION.
02:13:27PM IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
02:13:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO JUST AN ADD-ON -- ADDITIONAL.
02:13:32PM BASICALLY A RUN-ON SENTENCE.
02:13:36PM BILL CARLSON'S MOTION ADDED ON --
02:13:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN ADDITION.
02:13:41PM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS YOU ARE AMENDING A MOTION -- YOU ARE
02:13:44PM AMENDING HIS MOTION TO ADD THAT EFFECTIVE MAY 5, 2024.
02:13:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT.
02:13:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CREATION FOR THE PROCESS FOR.
02:13:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT.
02:13:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SECOND TO THAT IS THE QUESTION.
02:14:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND TO THAT AMENDMENT.
02:14:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES HE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT?
02:14:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
02:14:07PM IF THERE IS A SECOND, YOU VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN IF
02:14:10PM THE AMENDMENT FAILS -- OR IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES, THEN IT
02:14:15PM BECOMES THE MAIN MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:14:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW WE WILL VOTE IN A SECOND.
02:14:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO SECOND SO FAR.
02:14:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID WE WILL VOTE IN A SECOND -- IN A
02:14:25PM MINUTE.
02:14:25PM [LAUGHTER]
02:14:28PM BUT -- BUT I WOULD VOTE -- JUST TALKING OF MY VOTE, NOT THE
02:14:33PM MOTION.
02:14:33PM I WILL VOTE TO SUPPORT DOING SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM IF WE
02:14:37PM CAN VOTE AT THE SAME TIME ON A FORMULA GOING FORWARD.
02:14:39PM NO, BUT YOU ARE SAYING WE WOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION SOME
02:14:42PM TIME IN THE FUTURE.
02:14:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
02:14:44PM NO.
02:14:45PM SO --
02:14:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
02:14:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE MY NAME, ALAN CLENDENIN, TAMPA CITY
02:14:51PM COUNCIL, DISTRICT ONE.
02:14:52PM I ACCEPTED YOUR MOTION.
02:14:54PM AND ADDED ON THAT WE HAVE THIS IN-TERM EFFECTIVE MAY 5,
02:15:00PM 2024.
02:15:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE --
02:15:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT YOU HAD SAID -- IN ADDITION TO THAT WE
02:15:07PM SHOULD PURSUE THE ISSUE OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENT --
02:15:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION WAS TO -- MY MOTION WAS TO -- TO
02:15:17PM SET ON MAY 1, 2027, TO SET THE CITY COUNCIL'S SALARY AT 50%
02:15:22PM OF THE MAYOR'S SALARY.
02:15:24PM IF YOU ADD TO THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD RAISE THE SALARY IN
02:15:28PM THE INTERIM --
02:15:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAY 5, 2024.
02:15:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL VOTE TO SUPPORT THAT AND THE FORMULA
02:15:36PM IS THERE IN THE FUTURE SO CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO VOTE
02:15:38PM IN THE FUTURE.
02:15:39PM IF YOU NEED THAT AND DECIDE THE FORMULA LATER.
02:15:42PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DEFER ON IT ANOTHER DAY SO WE CAN
02:15:45PM CREATE THE FORMULA.
02:15:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE RESTATE THE MOTION TO EXACTLY WHAT
02:15:50PM YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
02:15:51PM THE MOTION ADD TODAY $73,713, MAY 5, 2024.
02:15:58PM TO SIMPLIFY THAT.
02:16:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I RESTATE MY MOTION?
02:16:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
02:16:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL SECOND IT OR ACCEPT IT AS AN
02:16:07PM AMENDMENT.
02:16:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
02:16:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IT IS TIED TO THIS OTHER MOTION.
02:16:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION TO AMEND YOUR INITIAL MOTION BY
02:16:17PM ADDING A PRO PROVISION THAT TAKES INTO EFFECT -- INTO
02:16:20PM ACCOUNT A SALARY ADJUSTMENT ON MAY 5, 2024.
02:16:23PM JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL CLEAR.
02:16:25PM THANK YOU.
02:16:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:16:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHAIR, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO SEPARATE
02:16:30PM THE MOTIONS OUT?
02:16:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE SECONDED IT.
02:16:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID YOU GIVE HIM A SECOND ON THAT?
02:16:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I GAVE HIM A SECOND.
02:16:37PM YOU WITHDRAW YOUR ORIGINAL SECOND?
02:16:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO VOTE ON WHAT YOU SAID.
02:16:43PM I DON'T WANT IT TO BE --
02:16:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN VOTE --
02:16:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I UNDERSTAND HOW TO VOTE, MR. CLENDENIN,
02:16:51PM THANK YOU.
02:16:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:16:53PM ANYWAY, WE HAVE A MOTION --
02:16:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU ARE SECONDING WHAT
02:16:58PM HE SAID TO BRING IT UP TO DATE WHERE WE DO GIVE OURSELVES A
02:17:01PM 40% INCREASE STARTING WITH THIS -- IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL
02:17:06PM YEAR.
02:17:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO AFTER WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, IF IT
02:17:11PM DOESN'T PASS, THEN THE ORIGINAL -- MIRANDA HE NEVER MADE A
02:17:16PM MOTION.
02:17:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I DO A POINT OF ORDER.
02:17:22PM A SUGGESTION.
02:17:23PM POINT OF ORDER, IF I MAY.
02:17:26PM MAY I?
02:17:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:17:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:17:29PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE ALL THE SUBSTITUTES WITHDRAWN AND
02:17:33PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:17:33PM YOU HAVE THE INPUT OF YOUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:17:37PM MAYBE RESTATE --
02:17:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH WE DO IT AS TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
02:17:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ASKED TO DO THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REALLY NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
02:17:48PM WHAT WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS A MOTION
02:17:51PM ON THE FLOOR.
02:17:51PM I MADE ONE AMENDMENT -- I MEAN SOME GET 15 AMENDMENTS -- I
02:17:58PM MADE ONE AMENDMENT -- ONE AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION.
02:18:01PM THAT WAS SECONDED.
02:18:02PM SO NOW THE PROPER PROCEDURE IS FOR THIS COUNCIL TO VOTE ON
02:18:06PM THE AMENDMENT.
02:18:08PM THAT AMENDMENT WILL EITHER PASS OR FAIL.
02:18:11PM AND THEN IF -- IF IT FAILS, WE REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
02:18:15PM AMENDMENT.
02:18:16PM AND THAT -- THAT IS -- THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
02:18:19PM THAT IS THE WAY -- IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
02:18:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH.
02:18:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL SAID AND DONE --
02:18:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE.
02:18:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- SO I CAN UNDERSTAND.
02:18:33PM I KNOW THE AMENDMENT COMES --
02:18:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: POINT OF ORDER.
02:18:38PM CAN I SAY SOMETHING -- MR. CLENDENIN INSULTED MY
02:18:42PM INTELLIGENCE DURING WOMEN'S HISTORIES MONTH AND HE NEEDS TO
02:18:46PM ADDRESS THAT RIGHT NOW TELLING ME THAT I DON'T.
02:18:49PM I DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT AND CAN I NOT LET THAT GO IN THE
02:18:52PM MONTH OF MARCH.
02:18:52PM I DO KNOW HOW TO VOTE.
02:18:53PM AND THERE WAS CLARIFICATION GOING ON.
02:18:56PM BUT DO NOT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE.
02:18:58PM I EXPECT THAT APOLOGY RIGHT NOW.
02:19:02PM IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT, STATE SO PUBLICLY.
02:19:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:19:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:19:10PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:19:12PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:19:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
02:19:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
02:19:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:19:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
02:19:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
02:19:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
02:19:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:19:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:19:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:19:29PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HENDERSON, VIERA, MIRANDA AND
02:19:36PM MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
02:19:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
02:19:42PM ORIGINAL MOTION.
02:19:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS MAY 1, 2027, THE
02:19:47PM CITY COUNCIL SALARIES WOULD BE SET ANNUALLY AT 50% OF THE
02:19:51PM MAYOR'S SALARY.
02:19:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:19:54PM DOES YOUR SECOND STILL STAND, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
02:19:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DID NOT KNOW THE MAYOR MADE $190,000
02:20:01PM WHEN I SECONDED THAT MOTION.
02:20:02PM THAT HOW MUCH SHE MAKES?
02:20:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROGERO, YOU KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER?
02:20:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AROUND THAT.
02:20:13PM I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
02:20:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR 2027.
02:20:16PM I WILL STILL STICK WITH THE SECOND ON THAT.
02:20:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:20:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS THE NEW COUNCIL.
02:20:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:20:26PM IT IS THE NEXT BODY.
02:20:27PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH THE MOTION.
02:20:28PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:20:30PM ROLL CALL.
02:20:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE A COMMENT.
02:20:34PM THANK YOU.
02:20:35PM BY THE TIME -- THE MAYOR IS MAKING $190,000.
02:20:39PM BY THE TIME 2027, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL MAKE SIX
02:20:43PM FIGURES.
02:20:43PM I WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT.
02:20:44PM I WILL SUPPORT GOING TO THAT NUMBER WHICH WE HAVE GOTTEN
02:20:46PM THROUGH AN OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS AND HAVING IT FOR THE NEXT
02:20:51PM COUNCIL.
02:20:51PM DO YOU THAT AND YOU GO THE MY VOTE.
02:20:52PM THANK YOU.
02:20:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:20:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 60% OF $190,000 IS $114,000.
02:20:58PM BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THAT DATE ANOTHER 3%, 4%.
02:21:04PM 12% MORE.
02:21:05PM COUNCILMEMBERS WILL MAKE SOMEWHAT AROUND $120,000.
02:21:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS MOTION WAS FOR 50%.
02:21:12PM STILL WILL BE OVER $100,000 PROBABLY.
02:21:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL BE --
02:21:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANALYSIS AS TO HOW THE
02:21:21PM MAYOR'S SALARY WAS SET EITHER.
02:21:22PM FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT -- THIS WON'T AFFECT ME BECAUSE I WON'T
02:21:26PM BE HERE.
02:21:26PM GOOD GOVERNMENT WE NEED TO PAY PEOPLE A DECENT SALARY.
02:21:30PM MAYOR'S STAFF WILL BE PAID $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 MORE
02:21:35PM THAN THAT.
02:21:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:21:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:21:40PM HOW ABOUT TAKING CITY COUNCIL SALARY AND DOUBLING IT AND
02:21:44PM HAVE THAT BE THE MAYOR'S SALARY.
02:21:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: I RESPECTFULLY QUESTION THE PREMISE OF -- IF I
02:21:52PM MAY, OF YOUR POSITION.
02:21:53PM WHAT THE MAYOR MAKES IS OF NO RELEVANCY WHAT CITY COUNCIL
02:21:58PM MAKES.
02:21:58PM WE HAVE HERE AN ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE.
02:22:00PM I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT.
02:22:01PM YOU WILL GET A YES VOTE FOR KNEE.
02:22:03PM WHAT THE MAYOR MAKES IS NO RELEVANCY TO MY ANALYSIS WHAT
02:22:09PM CITY COUNCIL SHOULD MAKE.
02:22:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:22:13PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:22:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:22:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
02:22:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO .
02:22:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:22:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:22:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
02:22:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:22:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, MIRANDA, CLENDENIN,
02:22:28PM MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
02:22:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:22:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN TRUE TO MY WORD.
02:22:33PM I WILL MAKE A MOTION THEN FOR THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL -- I
02:22:36PM WILL DO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION WAS TO BEGIN WHAT
02:22:40PM THIS ANALYSIS SAID WHICH WOULD BE $73,713 AND FOR THAT TO BE
02:22:45PM BINDING ON THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL.
02:22:46PM DO I HAVE A SECOND?
02:22:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:22:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:22:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:22:53PM YES, MA'AM?
02:22:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SUPPORT THAT ONLY IF THERE IS AN
02:22:56PM AMENDMENT FOR AN UPDATED ANALYSIS AT IS THAT TIME.
02:22:59PM BECAUSE IT WON'T BE $73,000 IN THREE YEARS.
02:23:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS ACCEPTED.
02:23:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION WITH THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT
02:23:08PM FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:23:09PM THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:23:11PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:23:13PM CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:23:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY --
02:23:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:23:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW YOU ADDED IN THE AMENDMENT, BUT I
02:23:22PM DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC
02:23:25PM FORMULA.
02:23:26PM IF THE FORMULA IS NOT ONE I PROPOSE.
02:23:29PM I WOULD WANT A SPECIFIC FORMULA BECAUSE THREE YEARS FROM
02:23:33PM NOW, THE SALARIES WILL BE UP AGAIN AND A DIFFERENT
02:23:35PM SITUATION.
02:23:35PM I WOULD LIKE A FORMULA.
02:23:37PM I DON'T WANT THE CHIEF OF STAFF DOING IT.
02:23:39PM I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO DETAILS BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
02:23:44PM CHIEF OF STAFF DID AN ANALYSIS OF OUR AIDES AND DISCOVERED
02:23:48PM ONE OF OUR AIDES WAS GETTING PAID 40% TO 50% LESS THAN THE
02:23:53PM OTHERS AND HE GAVE A LONG JUSTIFICATION WHY ONE AIDE SHOULD
02:23:57PM EARN THE LESS THAN THE OTHER.
02:23:58PM THAT WAS DESPICABLE.
02:24:01PM IF I AM GETTING INFORMATION LIKE THAT, THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS
02:24:05PM USING INACCURATE INFORMATION.
02:24:06PM WE ARE BASING SALARIES ON REAL INFORMATION THAT IS OUT
02:24:09PM THERE.
02:24:09PM TO GET SOME THIRD PARTY ANALYSIS WHAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE
02:24:13PM WITH THE BEST CITIES.
02:24:14PM NOT JUST CITIES THAT HAPPEN TO BE OUT THERE BUT THE BEST
02:24:18PM CITIES RUN ON THIS AND NOT HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION DO IT.
02:24:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT AND
02:24:24PM GO WITH HIS -- WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, BECAUSE I
02:24:29PM THINK HE IS RIGHT.
02:24:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL REMAKE MY MOTION AND LET'S SEE WHAT
02:24:33PM HAPPENS.
02:24:33PM TO GO WITH THIS ANALYSIS WHICH IS $75,315 FOR FISCAL YEAR
02:24:39PM 2024 AS WAS PREVIOUSLY SUGGESTED.
02:24:40PM WE CAN GO BACK TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT NUMBER WILL BE WITH
02:24:43PM INFLATION.
02:24:44PM THIS IS A WIN FOR WHAT WE SAY WE WANT, WHICH IS A HIGHER PAY
02:24:48PM FOR CITY COUNCIL.
02:24:48PM IT WILL BE THERE FOR THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL.
02:24:50PM EVERYTHING IS IT THERE.
02:24:52PM WHAT IS THAT SAYING?
02:24:53PM DON'T LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF PRETTY DAMN GOOD.
02:24:57PM DO I HAVE A SECOND?
02:24:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:24:59PM YES, MA'AM.
02:24:59PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:25:02PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:25:03PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:25:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM CONFUSED.
02:25:07PM DOES THAT INCLUDE THE -- THE SEPARATE ANALYSIS?
02:25:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GOING OFF WHAT THIS ANALYSIS -- YES,
02:25:20PM MA'AM.
02:25:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:25:24PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:25:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:25:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:25:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:25:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A -- AN ANALYSIS.
02:25:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOPE.
02:25:37PM TAKE POLITICS OUT OF IT.
02:25:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:25:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:25:41PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND
02:25:45PM MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
02:25:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST MOVE ON.
02:25:48PM AT THIS POINT.
02:25:49PM AT THIS POINT, LET'S JUST MOVE ON.
02:25:51PM WE CAN TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 62.
02:25:54PM ALL RIGHT.
02:25:57PM ITEM NUMBER 62.
02:25:58PM MR. ROGERO.
02:25:59PM THIS FALLS UNDER COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S COMMITTEE.
02:26:15PM YES, MA'AM, MISS TRAVIS.
02:26:16PM THIS IS FOR ITEM 62.
02:26:18PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, SIR.
02:26:20PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
02:26:26PM OPPORTUNITY.
02:26:26PM ITEM 6 IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE TIMING AND PHASING
02:26:31PM PLAN OF THE ROME YARD PROJECT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
02:26:34PM IN APRIL OF 2023.
02:26:35PM THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE TIMING
02:26:38PM AND PHASING PLAN SET OUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE
02:26:41PM FOR THAT PROJECT.
02:26:42PM THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THAT TIMING AND
02:26:45PM PHASING PLAN.
02:26:46PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM CONSISTENTLY OVER THE LAST
02:26:50PM SEVERAL WEEKS AND THE DEVELOPER HAS ASKED TO MAKE A
02:26:52PM PRESENTATION TO YOU TODAY TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT TIME OF PLAN
02:26:58PM AND TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS CHANGE.
02:27:00PM SO IF YOU MAY.
02:27:03PM ALBERT MYLO WITH RELATED GROUP.
02:27:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO, SIR.
02:27:08PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:27:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:27:10PM ALBERT MYLO, PRESIDENT OF RELATED URBAN.
02:27:13PM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
02:27:20PM AS NICOLE SAID, I JUST WANT TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON THE
02:27:26PM PROJECT AND THE PROGRESS WE MADE TO DATE AND WHAT THE
02:27:30PM REQUEST IS FOR A -- FOR A SIMPLE MODIFICATION FOR THE
02:27:34PM PHASING AND TIMING PLAN.
02:28:08PM >> QUICKLY, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS IS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE
02:28:13PM PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR COMPANY, THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND SOME
02:28:16PM OF OUR LOCAL PARTNERS, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE WEST
02:28:19PM TAMPA CAC, TAMPA CAC, DuCON CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU HEARD FROM
02:28:26PM EARLIER AND SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS HERE ON THE SCREEN
02:28:32PM THE PROJECT PARCEL ON ROME YARD ARE TWO PARCELS.
02:28:36PM WHAT I REFER TO AS THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARCEL.
02:28:38PM WHAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT IS INVERTING THE
02:28:42PM PHASING PLAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WORK
02:28:45PM WITH THAT, THE NORTH PARCEL ACTUALLY HAS SOME ENVIRONMENTAL
02:28:52PM CHALLENGES AND INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES.
02:28:54PM THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO INVERT THE PHASING PLAN
02:28:58PM FROM THE SOUTHERN PARCEL AND START ON THE NORTHERN PARCEL
02:29:05PM HERE IS JUST THE OVERALL PLAN.
02:29:07PM PLAN HAVEN'T CHANGED 984 UNITS OF MIXED INCOME, AFFORDABLE,
02:29:13PM WORK FORCE HOUSING, MARKET UNITS AND FOR SALE UNITS ALONG
02:29:16PM WITH RETAIL, A CULTURAL CENTER, WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER
02:29:20PM AND LIVE-WORK UNITS IN THE PROJECT.
02:29:21PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS -- AND WE KEPT THE SAME NUMERATION
02:29:28PM OF THE PHASES AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT AND CONFUSE
02:29:32PM EVERYONE.
02:29:32PM WHAT WE ARE SAYING THAT PHASE 3-A IS STILL GOING TO BE
02:29:36PM REFERRED TO AS PHASE 3-A, BUT THE FIRST PHASE THAT WE WANT
02:29:39PM TO START THE CONSTRUCTION WITH SO YOU SEE THE LOCATION OF
02:29:45PM THE PHASE HERE.
02:29:46PM IT IS RIGHT BETWEEN THOSE DOTTED BLACK LINES AND ALL OF THE
02:29:50PM MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS THAT RUN THROUGH THAT SITE.
02:29:54PM SO WE HAVE TO CONFIGURE OUR BUILDING AND PARKING GARAGE TO
02:29:57PM MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T IN CONFLICT WITH ANY OF THAT
02:30:01PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:30:02PM AS YOU CAN SEE FULL MIXED INCOME.
02:30:05PM AFFORDABLE, WORKFORCE, MARKETABLE UNITS.
02:30:08PM WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER PART OF PHASE 3-A.
02:30:12PM IT WILL REMAIN IN THERE.
02:30:14PM PHASE 3-A WILL BE BUILT FIRST, IT WILL BE BUILT SOONER IN
02:30:18PM PRESIDENT PROJECT ALONG WITH LIVE-WORK UNITS.
02:30:21PM I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND
02:30:24PM VIRTUAL CHALLENGES.
02:30:26PM AGAIN, JUST TO KEEP IT BRIEF, YOU KNOW, IN A NUTSHELL, THAT
02:30:33PM WORK SITE, THE PREVIOUS SITE FOR THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME.
02:30:38PM IT HAS BOTH GROUND WATER CONTAMINATION AND SOIL
02:30:43PM CONTAMINATION.
02:30:44PM AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT HAS A LOT OF LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:30:48PM NOT JUST THE TYPICAL INFRASTRUCTURE YOU WOULD USE TO SERVICE
02:30:53PM THE DEPARTMENT.
02:30:53PM BUT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SERVICES THE OTHER PART OF THE CITY.
02:30:56PM SO IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE,
02:31:02PM THEY ARE JOINED AT THE HIP.
02:31:04PM THEY GOT TO BE DONE TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MESS WITH
02:31:08PM INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH SOIL THAT IS CONTAMINATED.
02:31:13PM WE ARE ALREADY IN OUR PERMITTING FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:31:15PM WE EXPECT OUR PERMIT FROM THE CITY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
02:31:19PM WEEKS AND WE ARE ALREADY IN FOR ALL OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
02:31:28PM APPROVALS.
02:31:28PM WE STARTED THE GROUND WATER MONITORING ON THE SITE AND WE
02:31:31PM WILL HAVE THE RESULTS ON THOSE ALSO.
02:31:33PM SOME OF THE PROGRESS TO STATE.
02:31:35PM SECURED OUR $64 MILLION IN TAX EXEMPT FINANCING FROM THE
02:31:40PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HFA.
02:31:43PM I JUST TALKED OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES EARLIER.
02:31:46PM AS I MENTIONED, THAT IS OUR DEMO INFRASTRUCTURE PERMIT WITH
02:31:50PM CITY OF TAMPA.
02:31:50PM THAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS.
02:31:52PM WE HAVE OUR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
02:31:56PM AND TAMPA CDC WILL RUN THE WORK FORCE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT
02:32:02PM WILL HAPPEN ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THAT PHASE.
02:32:04PM WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN DUCON CONSTRUCTION YOU HEARD FROM
02:32:11PM THEM WORKING ON THE SECTION 3 COMPONENT TO HAVE THE RIGHT
02:32:14PM SECTION 3 SUBS.
02:32:15PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE THE GENERAL
02:32:19PM CONTRACTOR OF RECORD FOR A COMPONENT OF THE SITE, THE HOME
02:32:22PM OWNERSHIP COMPONENT.
02:32:24PM FIRST PHASE A IS ALREADY IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT LEVEL AND
02:32:33PM APPROVALS FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:32:35PM PROPOSED CHANGE IS TO DO THE FINANCIAL CLOSING BY DECEMBER
02:32:39PM OF THIS YEAR FOR PHASE 3A.
02:32:41PM YOU SEE THE NUMERATION.
02:32:42PM WE KEPT THE NUMERATION THE SAME BUT JUST CHANGING THE START
02:32:47PM AND COMPLETION DATES ON THAT PHASE.
02:32:50PM WE WILL BE STARTING NOW IN -- IN MAY ACTUALLY ALL OF THE
02:32:54PM PREWORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL
02:32:57PM CLEARANCE, SO WE ARE ABLE TO CLOSE ON OUR FINANCING.
02:33:00PM WE NEED TO GET THAT ENVIRONMENTAL CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH, IF
02:33:03PM YOU WILL.
02:33:04PM WITH THAT, YOU WILL SEE THAT ACTIVITY WILL START SOME TIME
02:33:07PM IN MAY, AS WELL AS WE GET OUR FINAL APPROVALS.
02:33:09PM HERE IS JUST SOME RENDERING OF THE TOWN HOMES.
02:33:14PM THAT IS A PORTION OF THE SITE THAT FACES -- THAT IS ON THE
02:33:17PM WEST ON ROME AVE, ALONG THE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT FACES
02:33:23PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
02:33:24PM HERE ARE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES THAT ARE PART OF
02:33:28PM OUR -- YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE TO DO
02:33:31PM GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS
02:33:34PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT.
02:33:40PM HERE IS A PICTURE AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
02:33:43PM IN OUR AGREEMENT WE ARE COMPOSED TO WORK ON OUR AGREEMENT OF
02:33:48PM THE RIVERWALK AND THAT PORTION COMING FROM THE EAST, GOING
02:33:51PM WEST, ALL THE WAY TO ROME AVENUE.
02:33:52PM SO THE IDEA WAS TO ACTIVATE THAT -- THAT RIVERWALK EXTENSION
02:33:58PM THERE.
02:33:58PM SOME OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY
02:34:06PM BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
02:34:07PM I SPOKE EARLIER, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE WORK FORCE
02:34:12PM TRAINING WITH THE, A 40% LOCAL HIRING COMMITMENT AND 40%
02:34:17PM MINORITY CONTRACTING COMMITMENT IN OUR LDA.
02:34:20PM IT IS A LITTLE MORE ROBUST THAN SOME OF THE DIALOGUE THAT I
02:34:23PM HEARD EARLIER HERE IN -- IN THE CHAMBERS.
02:34:26PM WE ARE GOING TO BE CREATING MICRO RETAIL, JUST TO GIVE A
02:34:31PM SMALL BUSINESSES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO START
02:34:36PM THERE.
02:34:36PM AND WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THE
02:34:39PM REQUIREMENT TO SET ASIDE RETAIL RATES AT A 10% DISCOUNT.
02:34:43PM ALL THAT IS IN OUR AGREEMENT AND NOTHING IS BEING CHANGED ON
02:34:47PM THAT.
02:34:47PM SOME OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THE DEAL AS I MENTIONED, 95
02:34:53PM 4 UNITS.
02:34:54PM 24,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMUNITY SPACE.
02:34:57PM THE TOTAL BUILD-LOUT CREATE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OVER $400
02:35:02PM MILLION ALREADY $425 MILLION.
02:35:04PM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS A REVENUE SHARE MECHANISM IN
02:35:09PM OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR CAPITALIZED LEASE PAYMENTS
02:35:11PM THAT HAPPEN TO THE CITY AT FINANCIAL CLOSING AND A REVENUE
02:35:14PM SHARE THAT HAPPENED AT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT FOR THE WHOLE
02:35:17PM 99 UNITS.
02:35:18PM SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO CREATE HOUSING OR
02:35:22PM CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALSO TO
02:35:24PM CREATE LONG-TERM REVENUE FOR THE CITIES TO SHARE IN THE
02:35:28PM UPSIDE OF THAT AND SOMETHING THAT THEN CITY COUNCIL CAN USE
02:35:31PM TO FUND OTHER PRIORITIES THAT -- THAT THE COUNCIL MAY
02:35:34PM DETERMINE THERE.
02:35:35PM HERE IS A ACTUAL RENDERING OF PHASE 3A, THE FIRST PHASE WE
02:35:42PM ARE GOING TO BUILD AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING
02:35:44PM PERMITTED THERE.
02:35:45PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
02:35:46PM AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
02:35:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:35:52PM -- YOUR MICROPHONE.
02:35:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:35:56PM THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THIS BUT SORT OF.
02:35:58PM 40% OF MBE PARTICIPATION.
02:36:01PM WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.
02:36:05PM WE WILL MAKE A BIG EFFORT IN THAT PART.
02:36:07PM GOVERNMENT CONTRACT, YOU CAN'T STATE IT LIKE THAT, BUT
02:36:10PM OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A BIG EMPHASIS OF OURS.
02:36:13PM THAT IS WHY WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CDCs AND DuCON
02:36:18PM CONSTRUCTION TO EMPHASIZE AS MUCH BLACK SUBCONTRACTOR
02:36:21PM PARTICIPATION AS POSSIBLE.
02:36:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU HAVE A GOAL?
02:36:24PM >> OUR GOAL IS 40%, BUT WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T -- YOU KNOW WE
02:36:29PM CAN'T STIPULATE THAT IN THE CONTRACT.
02:36:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 40% MBE BUT NOT --
02:36:35PM >> SECTION 3, WMBE.
02:36:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 40% ALL TOTAL?
02:36:41PM THANK YOU.
02:36:41PM >> THANK YOU.
02:36:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:36:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF LEGAL?
02:36:47PM SOMEBODY HERE FROM LEGAL REAL QUICK?
02:36:49PM AS YOU ARE COMING UP, I WOULD JUST LIKE -- SINCE CONCERNS OF
02:36:53PM THIS PROJECT BEFORE.
02:36:53PM I WANT ASK FOR THE RECORD, HAS THE MAYOR OR ANYBODY ON HER
02:36:58PM STAFF DISCLOSED ANY KIND OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS
02:37:03PM PROJECT OR RELATED TO THIS PROJECT?
02:37:06PM >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
02:37:07PM NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT, AGAIN, I JUST -- I ONLY HAVE BEEN
02:37:12PM INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
02:37:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY FROM LEGAL WHO IS WATCHING.
02:37:19PM CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DISCLOSE OUR CONFLICTS EVERY WEEK, BUT
02:37:23PM ANYBODY ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE WITH A CONFLICT OF
02:37:26PM INTEREST, WILL BE NICE TO DISCLOSE THAT PUBLICLY SO THE
02:37:29PM PUBLIC CAN BE AWARE OF IT.
02:37:30PM THANK YOU.
02:37:31PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
02:37:32PM THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP.
02:37:35PM ALSO TO THE RELATED FOLKS, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING HERE.
02:37:39PM I THINK YOU VOLUNTEERED TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION.
02:37:41PM YOU GAVE ME A BRIEFING.
02:37:43PM I THINK YOU WILL GIVE MY COLLEAGUES A BRIEFING.
02:37:45PM YOU ARE INVESTING A LOT IN THIS COMMUNITY IN LOTS OF WAYS.
02:37:48PM NOT ALL OF IT IS POPULAR BUT YOU MADE HUGE INVESTMENTS AND A
02:37:53PM BIG IMPRINT ON THIS COMMUNITY SO FAR.
02:37:55PM WHATEVER THE OTHER CHATTER IS OUT THERE, I APPRECIATE YOU
02:37:59PM ALL TRYING TO STEP FORWARD AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
02:38:02PM TRANSPARENCY ON THIS.
02:38:03PM BECAUSE WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY LIKE THIS.
02:38:06PM CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION ON THE REMEDIATION.
02:38:10PM WHO PAYS FOR IT?
02:38:11PM THE CITY PAY FOR IT OR YOU PAY FOR IT?
02:38:15PM >> PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COST AND PLAN.
02:38:18PM THAT IS WHY WE ARE STARTING IT PRECLOSING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
02:38:21PM GET THAT CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH.
02:38:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMETHING YOU KNEW OF AND ANTICIPATED IN THE
02:38:25PM DEAL?
02:38:25PM >> WE KNEW THERE WAS A PREVIOUS PUBLIC WORKS YARD.
02:38:29PM SO THERE WAS THE IDEA THAT THERE COULD BE.
02:38:32PM THE CITY DID DO OTHER REMEDIATION ON A ANOTHER PORTION OF
02:38:37PM THE NORTH LOT, BUT AS WE CONTINUED TO DIG, THERE WERE SOME
02:38:41PM OTHER REMNANTS.
02:38:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOWEVER THE DEAL IS WRITTEN, DO YOU THINK IT
02:38:45PM IS FAIR THAT WHATEVER PART OF IT YOU HAVE TO PAY, DO YOU
02:38:48PM THINK THAT IS FAIR AT THIS POINT?
02:38:49PM >> KIND OF HOW THE AGREEMENT WAS.
02:38:51PM YEAH, IT WAS STIPULATED.
02:38:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:38:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:38:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING
02:38:58PM STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TO THE POINT.
02:38:59PM LET'S GET ON WITH THE SHOW.
02:39:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:39:03PM YES, MA'AM.
02:39:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. MYLO?
02:39:12PM >> NO.
02:39:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM EXCITED THAT IT HAPPENS TO BE IN
02:39:16PM DISTRICT 5.
02:39:17PM I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ABOUT IT.
02:39:19PM I KNOW YOU ARE SINCERE IN YOUR APPROACH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT
02:39:22PM COMES TO MINORITY PARTICIPATION.
02:39:24PM WOULDN'T YOU BE CONSIDERED A MINORITY YOURSELF?
02:39:29PM WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
02:39:30PM I KNOW YOU COME A LONG WAY AND YOU STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM
02:39:33PM AND NOW HERE.
02:39:34PM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS.
02:39:37PM I CAN'T WAIT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TO COME.
02:39:40PM >> THANK YOU.
02:39:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:39:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KIND OF A LITTLE ECHOING ON WHAT MY
02:39:45PM COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID.
02:39:46PM TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.
02:39:48PM I THINK YOU ARE MODEST WITH THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THIS
02:39:51PM PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE ON NOT JUST WEST TAMPA, BUT THE
02:39:57PM ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:39:59PM WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN, THIS SEASON AN AIR I
02:40:03PM CAN'T -- SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS UNDERUTILIZED AND
02:40:06PM WASN'T THE BEST USE OF PROPERTY.
02:40:08PM THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE NOT JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT
02:40:11PM PEOPLE'S LIVES.
02:40:12PM I THINK SOME OF THE COMMUNITY AMENITIES THAT YOU HAVE, WORK
02:40:17PM FORCE DEVELOPMENT AND -- ACTUALLY NEWS TO ME ABOUT YOUR --
02:40:22PM ABOUT YOUR SUBSIDIZED BUSINESS MICRO MODELS.
02:40:25PM I THINK THAT IS AMAZING TO DO THAT FOR RESIDENTS AND GIVE
02:40:28PM OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ENTREPRENEURS.
02:40:30PM THIS IS PART OF A MASTER PLAN.
02:40:32PM WE TRANSFORM AND ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, THE GROWING NEEDS OF
02:40:36PM TAMPA.
02:40:36PM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMPANY'S WILLINGNESS TO WORK IN
02:40:40PM COOPERATION WITH ALL THE OTHER INTEREST GROUP THAT YOU HAVE,
02:40:44PM WORKING WITH THE WEST TAMPA GROUP AND WORKING WITH THE
02:40:47PM NONPROFITS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU PARTNERED WITH.
02:40:48PM I THINK THIS IS A NICE PROJECT.
02:40:51PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AND GOING
02:40:54PM VERTICAL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT IT IS 100%
02:40:57PM COMPLETE AND WE CHANGED AN IMPORTANT AREA TAMPA.
02:41:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:41:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:41:03PM I WANT TO ECHO -- YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB.
02:41:06PM SOMETHING THAT IS TRANSFORMATIONAL.
02:41:08PM I WANT TO POINT OUT.
02:41:10PM NO BEARING OR RELEVANCY ON YOU GUYS, WITH TAMPA FIRE STATION
02:41:14PM 9 ON WEST CHESTNUT THAT WE ARE MOVING THE FLEET MAINTENANCE
02:41:20PM FACILITY OUT OF THERE.
02:41:21PM AND PUTTING IT ELSEWHERE SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY EXPAND THAT
02:41:25PM FIRE STATION'S REACH.
02:41:27PM I WOULD HOPE SO, FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICE, BECAUSE WHEN WE
02:41:31PM LOOK AT ALL THESE ADDITIONAL UNITS AND ALL OF THESE MOVING
02:41:36PM INTO TAMPA.
02:41:37PM GUESS WHAT, THEY WILL NEED FIRE FIGHTERS AND THEY HAD NEED
02:41:40PM COPS, JUST LIKE WE ALL DO THIS IS 100% WONDERFUL AND HAVE
02:41:45PM BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN BECAUSE
02:41:49PM IF WE BUILD THESE -- IT IS AN ADVANCEMENT.
02:41:52PM A WONDERFUL THING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:41:53PM WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRESPONDING
02:41:56PM INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION
02:42:00PM INFRASTRUCTURE, ETC., FOR THESE FOLKS MOVING INTO TAMPA AND
02:42:04PM MOVING HERE.
02:42:04PM THAT IS ESPECIALLY RELEVANT.
02:42:06PM I WOULD THINK FOR STATION NINE.
02:42:09PM HOPE TO CONTINUED TO SEE MOVEMENT ON THAT.
02:42:11PM I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING.
02:42:14PM AND JUST GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.
02:42:16PM THANK YOU.
02:42:22PM >> THANK YOU.
02:42:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
02:42:25PM MOVE THIS.
02:42:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
02:42:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
02:42:29PM >> I THINK I AM GOOD.
02:42:33PM THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL.
02:42:35PM BUT ALSO BE LOOKING OUT IN YOUR -- IN YOUR E-MAILS.
02:42:38PM WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER AN INVITE FOR ALL THE
02:42:42PM COUNCIL TO COME FOR THE -- FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING EVENT
02:42:46PM THERE SOME TIME IN MAY.
02:42:47PM SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT.
02:42:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU TAKE 275 TO THE AIRPORT, YOU WILL
02:42:53PM GET THERE QUICKER.
02:42:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: REAL FAST.
02:42:55PM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR VOLUNTEERING TO DO THIS.
02:42:58PM ANY TIME YOU HAVE AN UPDATE, I THINK WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO
02:43:01PM HAVE YOU ON THE CALENDAR AND A PROJECT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO
02:43:04PM THE COMMUNITY.
02:43:04PM >> MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS PROVIDE REGULAR -- WE WILL COME
02:43:08PM MAYBE QUARTERLY AND KIND OF -- COME JUST AS A REGULAR THING
02:43:12PM AND UPDATE COUNCIL JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE.
02:43:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: GOOD LUCK MAKING YOUR FLIGHT.
02:43:17PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:43:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 92.
02:43:21PM HELLO, MR. MULKEY.
02:43:36PM YOU WERE SO RESPONSIVE WHEN I BUMPED INTO YOU AT THE VILA
02:43:43PM BROTHERS WITH COMMUNITY CONCERNS.
02:43:44PM I NEVER SEEN ANYBODY MOVE SO QUICK.
02:43:46PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:43:47PM I NEVER SEEN ANYBODY MOVE SO FAST.
02:43:51PM >> THANK YOU, SIR, MY PLEASURE.
02:43:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS HOME SICK.
02:43:55PM WHILE HE WAS E-MAILING -- TALKING TO YOU, HE WAS E-MAILING
02:43:59PM ME.
02:43:59PM A VERY QUICK RESPONSE TO A COMMUNITY CONCERN.
02:44:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:44:03PM >>TONY MULKEY:GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, TONY MULKEY, DIRECTOR OF
02:44:09PM PARKS AND RECREATION.
02:44:09PM I AM PLEASED TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE EAST TAMPA FAIR OAKS
02:44:13PM RECREATION COMPLEX TO BOTH YOU AND THE COMMUNITY FOR A
02:44:16PM SECOND READING AND CONSIDERATION.
02:44:20PM THIS PROJECT HAS INVOLVED A LOT SINCE IT WAS TO ORIGINALLY
02:44:25PM ENVISIONED.
02:44:25PM I FIND HISTORY OF EFFORTS AT THIS SITE ALL THE WAY BACK TO
02:44:30PM 2009.
02:44:31PM HERE WE ARE 15 YEARS LATER READY TO HAVE AN ACTION ON HAD
02:44:35PM HOPEFULLY.
02:44:36PM THE PROBABLY EVOLVED FROM THE RENOVATION OF A SMALL
02:44:39PM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY CENTER INTO THE -- INTO THE EXPANDED
02:44:46PM HUB WE ARE CONSIDERING HERE TODAY THAT WILL HAVE A WIDER
02:44:49PM STAT OF THE COMMUNITY.
02:44:49PM THE PROJECT HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND I KNOW EVERYONE HAS
02:44:53PM HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY ABOUT -- ABOUT HOW
02:44:57PM THIS PROJECT WILL PROCEED.
02:44:58PM AND WE HEARD THE SAME FEEDBACK.
02:45:00PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY BUMP ON WHEN APPROACHING
02:45:03PM A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS THE HISTORY.
02:45:05PM AND THE HISTORY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE -- WHO HAVE GROWN
02:45:09PM UP HERE.
02:45:09PM WHO HAVE DEVELOPED.
02:45:10PM WHO HAVE HAD THOSE SOCIAL CONNECTIONS THROUGH THAT PARK
02:45:14PM SPACE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
02:45:15PM WHETHER IT WAS THEM BEING COACHED BY SOMEONE AND THEN
02:45:20PM TURNING AROUND AND COACHING THE YOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY
02:45:23PM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
02:45:24PM I THINK THIS PROJECT IS DAY ONE OF A FUTURE GENERATION OF
02:45:27PM DOING THAT.
02:45:28PM AND CONTINUED GENERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
02:45:30PM SO I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT THE CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR
02:45:35PM CONSIDERATION.
02:45:36PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE WHOLE TEAM IS HERE TO ADDRESS
02:45:39PM ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
02:45:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:45:42PM I HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
02:45:43PM FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:45:45PM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
02:45:46PM IT IS A MAJOR HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
02:45:51PM AND THEY -- THEY DESERVE IT 100 TIMES OVER.
02:45:57PM WE HAVE BUILT BEAUTIFUL PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
02:45:59PM JULIAN LANE/RIVERFRONT.
02:46:02PM MACFARLANE PARK WHERE MY WIFE LIKES TO GO.
02:46:05PM SHE LOVES TO GO TO VILA PARK MORE.
02:46:08PM IMPROVEMENTS, JULIAN LANE, CURTIS HIXON.
02:46:12PM EITHER WAS PART OF THAT ON COUNCIL OR AT THE RIBBON CUTTING.
02:46:16PM CURTIS HIXON WAS BEFORE MY TIME.
02:46:19PM THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY -- REALLY BEEN IGNORED
02:46:22PM AND FOR GOT GOTTEN AND APPEAR DENSE, RESIDENTIAL, RICH
02:46:26PM COMMUNITY.
02:46:26PM THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PARK.
02:46:29PM JULIAN LANE WAS $36 MILLION.
02:46:32PM AND I SUPPORTED THAT.
02:46:33PM CURTIS HIXON BEFORE THAT BACK IN THE DAY I THINK IT WAS $10,
02:46:39PM $11 MILLION.
02:46:40PM I DON'T REMEMBER BUT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THIS IS.
02:46:44PM I SPOKE BRIEFLY WITH MR. ROGERO.
02:46:46PM I READ WHAT THE TAMPA BAY TIMES EDITORIAL BOARD WROTE.
02:46:50PM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
02:46:52PM I CALLED FOLKS.
02:46:53PM THEY CALLED ME.
02:46:54PM AND THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS.
02:46:55PM FIRST, A LOT OF SUPPORT, NUMBER ONE.
02:46:57PM THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WERE BROUGHT
02:47:01PM UP EARLIER TODAY BY TOBA AND OTHER GROUPS OF THE MINORITY
02:47:06PM PARTICIPATION.
02:47:06PM IF THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY
02:47:09PM AFRICAN-AMERICAN, I WANT TO SEE US SHE HAVE AS MUCH -- WE
02:47:12PM HAVE -- WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE TODAY WHO DISCUSSED
02:47:15PM HER BUSINESS.
02:47:16PM AND THE BENEFITS OF THAT.
02:47:17PM AND THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL PERFECT EXAMPLE, BUT I WANT TO
02:47:21PM INCREASE THAT.
02:47:21PM I THINK IF WE ARE INVESTING -- AND THIS IS THE STICKER PRICE
02:47:25PM HERE.
02:47:25PM $34.6 MILLION.
02:47:27PM THAT IS NOT INCLUDING THE BONDING, THE INTEREST AND
02:47:29PM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULD INVEST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
02:47:31PM AND INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS IN INVESTING WITH LOCAL
02:47:34PM CONTRACTORS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND AS SOMEBODY TOLD ME LAST
02:47:38PM NIGHT -- I TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE AND SOMEBODY SAID,
02:47:42PM WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL IF YOU HAVE A YOUNG MAN OR A FATHER
02:47:44PM OR MOTHER SAY, I HELPED BUILD THAT.
02:47:47PM MY DAD DID THAT.
02:47:49PM THE AMOUNT OF PRIDE THEY WOULD HAVE IN THAT IS VERY
02:47:53PM IMPORTANT.
02:47:53PM AGAIN THIS IS A HISTORIC INVESTMENT.
02:47:55PM I THINK IT IS WORTHY.
02:47:56PM I KNOW WE BOND A LOT OF THINGS AND BOND SOMETHING EXPENSIVE.
02:48:02PM AND I HAVE QUESTIONED MR. ROGERO ABOUT HOW WE CAN SAVE MONEY
02:48:06PM ON THE INTEREST.
02:48:07PM WHY SHOULD WE BE BONDING THE ENTIRE AMOUNT.
02:48:11PM WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE.
02:48:13PM I'M TRYING TO SAVE THE STACKS PAYER MONEY BECAUSE THE MORE
02:48:16PM YOU BOND, THE MORE INTEREST YOU PAY.
02:48:18PM THAT'S REALLY IT.
02:48:19PM I HAD IDEAS THAT I WAS THROWING AROUND FOR THE LAST FEW
02:48:23PM DAYS.
02:48:23PM WHERE WILL WE GET THE MONEY FROM.
02:48:26PM I RESPECTFULLY BORROWED AN IDEA FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:48:30PM SHE SAID MONTHS AGO, WHY DOESN'T THE CRA BUY THE POLICE
02:48:35PM STATION ACROSS THE STREET.
02:48:36PM THE ADMINISTRATION RESPONDED WITH, THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED
02:48:39PM IN DOING THAT AT THIS TIME.
02:48:40PM AND I WAS LOOKING AT PER THE IDEA OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:48:43PM HOW DO WE FREE UP MONEY IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA TO USE TO MOVE
02:48:48PM OUT OF TAMPA POLICE.
02:48:49PM GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
02:48:50PM WHATEVER.
02:48:51PM THE POINT IS HOW TO FREE UP THAT CASH AND PUT IT IN THE
02:48:55PM GENERAL FUND.
02:48:56PM I AM TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE COUNTY BOX TO THINK ABOUT WHERE
02:49:00PM WE WILL GET OTHER MONIES TO APPLY TO THIS.
02:49:02PM I SPOKE TO SOMEBODY ELSE YESTERDAY.
02:49:03PM THEY SAID, YOU CAN BOND IT.
02:49:05PM AND YOU CAN ALWAYS PAY IT DOWN EARLY.
02:49:07PM A QUESTION I HAVE IS -- IF THE CIT MONEY IS RENEWED -- IF,
02:49:15PM TALKED TO SOMEBODY DOWN THE STREET, COUNTY COMMISSION, AND
02:49:18PM THEY ARE IN DISCUSSION.
02:49:19PM COULD WE USE CIT MONEY IF RENEWED TO PAY THE BONDS DOWN.
02:49:24PM DO WE BOND EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE?
02:49:26PM ARE WE BONDING $34 MILLION PLUS ALL AT ONCE, TYPICALLY NO,
02:49:32PM THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WITHOUT CUTTING CORNERS AND
02:49:35PM WITHOUT DELAYS THIS PROJECT.
02:49:36PM I WANT TO SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE A
02:49:40PM GOOD STEWARD OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND SAVE THE CITY MONEY
02:49:44PM AND NOT BURDEN THE NEXT COUNCIL OR THE NEXT MAYOR.
02:49:47PM WE BOND A LOT.
02:49:48PM WHAT IF WE GO INTO A RECESSION AND THE C.I.T. DOESN'T GET
02:49:53PM RENEWED.
02:49:53PM LAST BUDGET PROPOSING A REVENUE.
02:49:57PM WHAT ABOUT THE RESERVES OR THE CREDIT RATING.
02:49:59PM SO MANY QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE ANSWERS TO.
02:50:02PM I COULD KEEP GOING.
02:50:03PM BUT IT IS A WORTHY PROJECT.
02:50:05PM A GREAT PROJECT.
02:50:06PM I WANT TO DO GOOD BY THE COMMUNITY AND GET THE MAXIMUM
02:50:10PM BENEFIT POSSIBLE.
02:50:12PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
02:50:13PM I WILL GO TO THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS.
02:50:17PM AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD HIS MIC ON FIRST AND THEN WE WILL
02:50:24PM CONTINUE.
02:50:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SHOWED THE ARTICLE OF MY INVOLVEMENT.
02:50:27PM I HAD TO SHOW MY INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE FREIGHTERS ON BEHALF OF
02:50:29PM THE ADMINISTRATION OUT THERE SPREADING MISINFORMATION.
02:50:32PM AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE MAYOR WANTED TO SPEND A
02:50:36PM COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND TO RENOVATE A BUILDING.
02:50:39PM CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA WENT OUT AND SUGGESTED BUILDING A
02:50:44PM NEW BUILDING BECAUSE MANY OF THE FOLKS INNED AUDIENCE ASKED
02:50:48PM US TO DO THAT.
02:50:49PM I DIDN'T KNOW THE SITUATION OF FAIR OAKS UNTIL MR. ROBINSON,
02:50:54PM BISHOP PATTY AND OTHERS SAID WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING.
02:50:57PM WE HELD A MEETING THERE WHICH FORMER COUNCILMEMBER CITRO
02:51:03PM MENTIONED.
02:51:03PM AT THE MEETING -- YOU GUYS CAN WATCH THE VIDEO -- THE
02:51:06PM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE BOOED THE MAYOR AND ASKED US TO
02:51:09PM BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
02:51:10PM SO WE DID.
02:51:11PM I MADE MOTIONS TO DO THAT AND STARTED SUGGESTING IT.
02:51:14PM THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO ONE-UP CITY COUNCIL AND CAME
02:51:19PM BACK WITH $18 MILLION.
02:51:20PM THEY DECIDED TO ONE-UP THEMSELVES AND PROPOSED 41 MILLION OF
02:51:24PM WHICH WE ARE GETTING $36 MILLION TODAY.
02:51:28PM THE PROBLEM IS -- YOU NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT FAIR OAKS.
02:51:33PM I THINK THE COMMUNITY DESERVES IT.
02:51:34PM WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
02:51:36PM THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T SUPPORT THIS CONTRACT.
02:51:38PM NO RPF ON THIS CONTRACT.
02:51:40PM THERE WAS AN RFQ.
02:51:43PM NOT ENOUGH FOR THE COMMUNITY ON A $108 MILLION PROJECT.
02:51:47PM RIDICULOUS WE ARE NOT HAVING RFPs.
02:51:51PM I HAVE QUESTIONS HOW IT WILL BE HANDLED.
02:51:54PM IT WILL BE BONDED AND A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THERE.
02:51:57PM THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO BOND THINGS.
02:51:59PM 41% BONDING CAPACITY A FEW MONTHS AGO AND NOW WE ARE BOND
02:52:03PM MORE AND MORE AND MORE THINGS.
02:52:05PM EVERYTHING WILL BE BONDED.
02:52:07PM 10% BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
02:52:09PM HOW CAN BE IN THE MIDDLE OF EAST TAMPA AND ONLY 10%.
02:52:15PM IN THE COMMUNITY IT IS ABOUT GENTRIFICATION LIKE JULIAN
02:52:19PM PLAIN, THE CITY WANTS TO BUILD EXPENSIVE HIGH RISE AND
02:52:23PM LIVING QUARTERS AROUND.
02:52:26PM IF NOT, SAY WE HAVE $108 MILLION, OR SPEND IT ON ONE PARK
02:52:31PM FOR ALL THE PARKS IN EAST TAMPA.
02:52:35PM DESPITE WHAT SOME OF THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE WILL SAY, WHAT IS
02:52:39PM THE BEST CHOICE FOR EAST TAMPA.
02:52:41PM SHOULD WE REBUILD THE COMMUNITY.
02:52:43PM A LOT OF PLACE WHERE IS KIDS ARE COACH AND THEY WANT TO HAVE
02:52:47PM A GREAT TIME AND BUILDING IS FALLING APART AND ROADS ARE
02:52:49PM FALLING APART AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOUSING.
02:52:51PM WE ARE SPENDING AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MONEY.
02:52:56PM THIS HAS TURNED INTO THE NEXT HANNA AVENUE.
02:52:58PM AND WHAT IS HAPPENING, THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO CREATE A
02:53:00PM VIDEO IN THREE YEARS OF ALL THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND TRYING
02:53:03PM TO RUSH THIS AND PRESSURING THIS TO GET DONE.
02:53:06PM AND WE SHOULDN'T OVERSPEND THE PUBLIC'S MONEY MONEY, AND
02:53:11PM APPROVE SOMETHING THAT IS HALF-BAKED JUST BECAUSE THE
02:53:14PM ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO HAVE A VIDEO IN THREE YEARS.
02:53:16PM BY THE WAY, I -- AS I SAID, LAST WEEK, I DON'T KNOW
02:53:21PM UNDERSTAND WHY THE ADMINISTRATION CHANGED THE NAME ALSO
02:53:23PM OPINION.
02:53:23PM THE PUBLIC WANTS FAIR OAKS.
02:53:26PM THE ADMINISTRATION SAID WE WILL HAVE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.
02:53:31PM CITY ALWAYS CALLED FAIR OAKS.
02:53:33PM 100% SUPPORT FAIR TO EX AND 100% SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:53:38PM WHATEVER MISINFORMATION WILL BE PUT OUT THERE IN THE NEXT
02:53:40PM WEEK OR SO, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS CONTRACT.
02:53:42PM QUESTIONS OF HOW THIS CONTRACT WAS LET.
02:53:45PM CAN I ASK LEGAL ONE QUESTION IF THEY ARE STILL THERE.
02:53:48PM SAME QUESTION.
02:53:49PM HAS ANYBODY IN THE ADMINISTRATION -- HAS THE MAYOR OR
02:53:52PM ANYBODY IN THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE MADE ANY KIND OF PUBLIC
02:53:56PM DISCLOSURE ON CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS CONTRACT.
02:54:00PM >>JSUTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:54:02PM NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
02:54:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:54:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I AM FINE.
02:54:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
02:54:09PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:54:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ON THE FACTUAL STUFF
02:54:13PM -- MAYBE NOT THE COMMENTARY STUFF WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I
02:54:18PM SAY DITTO, BUT THE POINTS HE IS TRYING TO MAKE.
02:54:20PM I FOR ONE, LIKE THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT.
02:54:24PM THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL TYPE PROJECTS.
02:54:27PM I HAVE CONCERNS AGAIN ABOUT THE MINORITY PARTICIPATION.
02:54:29PM I AGREE.
02:54:30PM THIS CONTRACT HAS TO BE TIGHTER AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT
02:54:34PM THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING THESE FACILITIES REFLECT THE
02:54:37PM AMAZING DIVERSITY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:54:40PM AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THE CONTRACT IS ADEQUATELY -- IS NOT
02:54:44PM ADEQUATELY TAKEN CARE OF THAT ELEMENT.
02:54:50PM ON THE FINANCING PART.
02:54:53PM I HAVE MADE NO SECRET WITH A MAYOR IN A MEETING AND SPOKEN
02:54:58PM TO YOU, DENNIS, OF MY CONCERN OF THE BONDING.
02:55:00PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR, BUT LAST YEAR A LITTLE OVER $2
02:55:04PM BILLION BUDGET.
02:55:05PM I KNOW I SHOULDN'T BE NEGOTIATING FROM MY LINE IN THE SAND
02:55:09PM POINT -- BUT THE LINE IN THE SAND, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
02:55:12PM BE BONDING MORE THAN HALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF $20
02:55:16PM MILLION.
02:55:16PM THE REST OF IT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF OUR BUDGET.
02:55:19PM I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE MAYOR WILL COME FORWARD WITH A
02:55:22PM BUDGET IN FISCAL YEAR '25 AND MAYBE '26 WITH FINDING --
02:55:27PM EXISTING FUNDS WITHIN THE CITY BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR
02:55:30PM THIS.
02:55:30PM A PROJECT THAT DID HAVE -- DID HAVE INCREDIBLE PRICE
02:55:35PM ESCALATION.
02:55:35PM WE CAN'T JUST DUMP ON OUR LAP AND US BURDEN THE FUTURE
02:55:42PM TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE PRICE
02:55:44PM ESCALATION.
02:55:45PM YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE SAME THING -- AND MR. --
02:55:50PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WE HAVE GOT ROADS TO PAY.
02:55:52PM OTHER NEEDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:55:53PM I AM GOING TO LOOK FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR '25 BUDGET.
02:55:57PM HOPEFULLY HAVE $35 MILLION IN ROAD REBUILDING FOR CITY OF
02:56:02PM TAMPA ROADS.
02:56:02PM SO A LOT OF PLACES IN THIS BUDGET HOPEFULLY WHEN IT COMES
02:56:05PM FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IT WILL BE BUILT IN.
02:56:07PM PART OF OUR PROBLEM THIS LAST CYCLE IS WHEN WE GOT THE
02:56:11PM BUDGET, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CAKE MIX HAD ALREADY BEEN PUT IN
02:56:15PM THE PAN.
02:56:15PM MIXED WITH ALL THE INGREDIENTS.
02:56:17PM PUT IN THE CAKE PAN.
02:56:18PM THE OVEN WAS TURNED ON BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO SLICE INTO IT.
02:56:24PM MOVE THINGS AROUND FROM ONE THING TO THE OTHER.
02:56:27PM HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET MORE PROACTIVE AND BEND YOUR EARS OF
02:56:32PM EXPECTATION AND HOW TO WORK IT THROUGH THIS.
02:56:34PM I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO -- AGAIN, IF WE GET THE MINORITY
02:56:38PM PARTICIPATION ELEMENT FIXED IN THIS CONTRACT AND MOVE
02:56:40PM FORWARD, JUST KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BOND, I AM NOT
02:56:45PM GOING TO VOTE FOR BONDING MORE -- I WILL MEET YOU HALFWAY R
02:56:49PM LIKE 50% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST, $20 MILLION.
02:56:52PM I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE -- SO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER
02:56:54PM WAY TO PAY FOR THE REST OF IT ORDINANCE MANISCALCO
02:56:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:56:57PM IT WAS ON?
02:56:58PM NO?
02:56:59PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:56:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN -- WHEN YOU HAD MENTIONED
02:57:03PM SOME ISSUES THAT I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP ON CRA.
02:57:08PM COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
02:57:09PM NUMBER ONE, THE NAME FAIR OAKS -- WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT
02:57:12PM BEFORE.
02:57:12PM I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
02:57:15PM THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS A REAL BIG WIN FOR
02:57:18PM EAST TAMPA THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF.
02:57:21PM AND I WOULD AIRPORT TO SEE IT UNDERMINED ANY WAY BY THE NAME
02:57:26PM FAIR OAKS.
02:57:27PM I THINK WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN THINKING THAT -- I
02:57:31PM THINK -- THAT WE HAVE UPDATED THIS PROJECT.
02:57:35PM WE GOT ENGAGED.
02:57:36PM AND AT THE ALTAR, NOT THE RUNAWAY BRIDE OR GROOM, RIGHT.
02:57:41PM THERE ARE SMALL ISSUES THAT I THINK SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
02:57:44PM THE CHAIRMAN BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
02:57:48PM IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
02:57:49PM CRA, FOR EXAMPLE.
02:57:51PM WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CAPPING DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
02:57:54PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY FUNDS AVAILABLE AFTER THE
02:57:58PM SPENDING THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LOOK CAN
02:58:01PM AT THAT.
02:58:01PM OTHER AVENUES WITHIN THAT CRA OR WITHIN THE CRA IN THE AREA
02:58:06PM AS WELL.
02:58:06PM THE ISSUE OF MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND -- CAN I --
02:58:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT MUST BE YOU.
02:58:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY.
02:58:15PM OKAY, I WILL GET CLOSER.
02:58:16PM THANK YOU.
02:58:18PM THANK YOU.
02:58:19PM THE ISSUE OF MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND ESPECIALLY WITH
02:58:23PM AFRICAN-AMERICANS, 10%.
02:58:24PM LOOKING AT A HIGHER NUMBER, SEEING IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY
02:58:28PM CAN COME BACK.
02:58:29PM YOU KNOW ANOTHER BIG PROJECT WE HAD BEFORE US WAS THE FIRE
02:58:33PM STATION.
02:58:33PM AND MR. ROGERO PROVIDED ALONG WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND OTHERS
02:58:38PM AND MR. STOCCO, TREMENDOUS HEALTH ON THAT.
02:58:41PM WE LOOKED AT IT ONE TIME, MODIFIED IT.
02:58:43PM HAD IT COME BACK TO US.
02:58:44PM MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE ISSUES, PARTICULARLY THE
02:58:47PM AFRICAN-AMERICAN PARTICIPATION, LOOKING TO AMEND THAT.
02:58:50PM AND THEN JUST HAVING A REPORT TO COUNCIL, ANOTHER FUNDING
02:58:53PM SOURCE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, RIGHT.
02:58:57PM BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THIS PASS.
02:58:59PM I WANT TO SEE THIS PASS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
02:59:01PM THIS IS A GREAT WIN FOR EAST TAMPA.
02:59:04PM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DECADES IN THE MAKING AND IT WILL BE
02:59:08PM TRANSFORMATIONAL NOT JUST FOR THE HARD-WORKING FAMILIES OF
02:59:12PM EAST TAMPA.
02:59:12PM THE MULTIGENERATIONAL THAT HELP BUILD THE CITY FOR THEIR
02:59:17PM KIDS.
02:59:17PM PROVIDE THE KIDS AN OPPORTUNITY, RECREATION, AND A BRIGHTER
02:59:23PM FEATURE AND FOLKS IN TAMPA THAT FIGHT HARD FOR A BRIGHTER
02:59:26PM FUTURE.
02:59:26PM MOMS, DADS, GRANDPARENTS, EVERYBODY, FIGHT HARD FOR A
02:59:32PM GREATER FUTURE.
02:59:33PM AND THIS WILL BE PART OF THAT.
02:59:34PM THIS CENTER GOES INTO THE IDEA OF WHAT GOVERNMENT IS HERE
02:59:38PM FOR TO HELP OUT MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
02:59:41PM HELPING FAMILIES TO JUST PROGRESS.
02:59:43PM SO I SUPPORT THIS.
02:59:44PM BUT I WANT TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE NARROWLY TAILORED ISSUES
02:59:49PM THAT I THINK A LOT OF COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE LEGITIMATE
02:59:53PM CONCERNS ON.
02:59:53PM CAN WE LOOK AT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES LIKE CRA.
02:59:56PM SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD BE QUICKLY ADDRESSED BEFORE
03:00:00PM CITY COUNCIL.
03:00:00PM WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
03:00:03PM BY THE WAY I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS TO MR. ROGERO AND
03:00:07PM MR. MULKEY AND I DIDN'T TELL KEN THIS.
03:00:10PM MY BAD.
03:00:11PM THE PARTICIPATION OVER THE 10% THRESHOLD A MUCH A OF
03:00:17PM AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.
03:00:20PM THANK YOU.
03:00:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:00:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:00:22PM EVERYONE HAS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ARTICULATED WHAT I BELIEVE
03:00:27PM ABOUT THIS TOO.
03:00:28PM THIS IS A GREAT PARK.
03:00:29PM WONDERFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:00:30PM IT WAS -- PEOPLE DIDN'T GET NECESSARILY EVERYTHING THAT THEY
03:00:34PM WANTED, BUT THEY GOT A LOT OF IT.
03:00:36PM SO BASICALLY, WHAT EVERYBODY IS MOSTLY HAPPY, THEN WE ARE IN
03:00:40PM A GOOD SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THIS PARK WILL OFFER.
03:00:43PM IT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
03:00:46PM ALLOW THE HISTORY OF THE PARK TO STAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE
03:00:54PM TO HAVE THAT HISTORY.
03:00:55PM AND TO CREATE NEW MEMORIES AND NEW HISTORIES.
03:00:57PM BUT THE BIG ISSUE IS, AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED, AND THAT IS
03:01:03PM WHY I ASKED THE RELATED GROUP ABOUT THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
03:01:06PM 40% MBE.
03:01:08PM THAT IS A LOT.
03:01:09PM AND THAT IS A LOT MORE.
03:01:10PM THAT IS TWICE AS MUCH AS WE WERE TOLD THAT THE MBE WOULD BE
03:01:15PM ON THIS PROJECT AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
03:01:16PM I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL ME WHAT -- I BELIEVE I
03:01:19PM ALSO HEARD THE 30% NUMBER.
03:01:22PM BUT IF MR. BAIRD OR SOMEBODY ELSE -- WHOEVER CAN SPEAK TO
03:01:27PM THAT CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THE PERCENTAGES ARE CURRENTLY.
03:01:32PM AND IT SEEMS REALLY CLEAR TO US WE AREN'T GOING TO ACCEPT
03:01:36PM THE LOW 10 MERIDIAN.
03:01:40PM >> BERTHA MITCHELL, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY MANUEL INJURY.
03:01:45PM AND WE SET A COMBINED GOAL OF THIS PROJECT FOR 30%.
03:01:52PM THERE IS A 14% PARTICIPATION NOW FOR THE BLACK-OWNED
03:01:58PM BUSINESSES.
03:01:59PM THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO 117 BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES WHO ARE
03:02:06PM READY, WILLING AND AVAILABLE TO GO TO WORK.
03:02:08PM WE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM OUR LEADERSHIP.
03:02:14PM LET'S FIND THE TRUE STATUS OF THESE BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
03:02:18PM YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE, WE CONTACTED EVERY BLACK-OWNED
03:02:27PM BUSINESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE READY, WILLING AND
03:02:31PM AVAILABLE.
03:02:32PM AND MOST OF THEM HAVE RESPONDED POSITIVELY, YES.
03:02:38PM WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
03:02:40PM WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
03:02:45PM WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE.
03:02:46PM WE ARE HERE TO ENSURE EQUALITY, INCLUSION, OPPORTUNITY, AND
03:02:54PM FAIRNESS.
03:02:55PM THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE HAVE DONE JUST THAT.
03:03:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:03:03PM CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF MBE WAS FOR THE
03:03:08PM HANNA AVENUE PROJECT?
03:03:10PM >> I AM SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN
03:03:14PM --
03:03:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BAIRD IS GETTING UP, SO I THINK HE CAN .
03:03:25PM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:03:28PM 35 PERCENT
03:03:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST OF HANNA AVENUE?
03:03:33PM >>BRAD BAIRD: TOTAL COST OVER 100 MILLION.
03:03:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TOTAL BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISE PERCENTAGE OF
03:03:39PM THAT?
03:03:41PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THE BREAKDOWN WAS 15% MBE AND 20% SLB E.
03:03:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:03:47PM THANK YOU.
03:03:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
03:03:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS 35 -- IF
03:03:59PM 35% WAS THE PERCENTAGE FOR HANNA, THERE IS REALLY NO REASON
03:04:02PM -- THAT SHOULD BE OUR FLOOR FROM NOW ON.
03:04:04PM AND I DON'T SEE WHY 30% IS ACCEPTABLE.
03:04:08PM I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE FROM 10%
03:04:12PM FROM MY MEETING ON TUESDAY UNTIL TODAY AT 14%.
03:04:16PM I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL, AND I BELIEVE THAT GIVEN ONE MORE
03:04:22PM WEEK, WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
03:04:23PM BUT I AM TELLING YOU NOW THOUGH THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE
03:04:27PM STRUGGLING WITH THIS TO SUPPORT THIS IF IT DOESN'T HAVE MORE
03:04:32PM PARTICIPATION.
03:04:33PM THANK YOU.
03:04:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:04:37PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:04:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
03:04:41PM ALL OF THE WORK YOU DID CONTACTING ALL OF THE BUSINESSES.
03:04:45PM I CAN START IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT I WILL
03:04:49PM START HERE.
03:04:49PM LET'S JUST GO BACK TO THE DESIGN-BUILD.
03:04:52PM THE DESIGN-BUILD FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, 750% OF THE
03:04:55PM PARTICIPATION WAS FROM BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, STARTING
03:04:59PM WITH THE ARCHITECT.
03:05:01PM 41 YEARS' EXPERIENCE.
03:05:03PM RIGHT HERE.
03:05:03PM LOCAL GUY.
03:05:05PM HOWARD AND ASSOCIATES.
03:05:06PM HE DESIGNED THIS PROJECT.
03:05:07PM HE IS THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD.
03:05:09PM THE LANDSCAPE ENGINEER.
03:05:10PM THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.
03:05:12PM DRAKE MOSS, VOLT AIR, ARETHA ENGINEERING, CAMPO ENGINEERING,
03:05:18PM DECARGO WILSON DID ITS STRUCTURAL.
03:05:21PM ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING CAME FROM BRIDGEWATER.
03:05:24PM CONSULTANT KIM JACKSON, HER CONSULTING FIRM, KBJ, INC. THAT
03:05:33PM PULLED THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND NEW AGE GRAPHICS.
03:05:36PM SO OUT OF THE GATE INVOLVED A LOT OF BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
03:05:42PM IT IS SO INTERESTING TO ME THAT THIS COUNCIL IS SAYING THAT
03:05:46PM IT IS NOT BLACK ENOUGH.
03:05:48PM THAT IS MIND-BLOWING TO ME.
03:05:51PM IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, PLEASE LET ME
03:05:53PM KEEP MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
03:05:54PM IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, EVERYTHING NEEDS
03:05:57PM TO BE MORE BLACK.
03:05:58PM NOT JUST BLACK PROJECTS IN BLACK COMMUNITIES.
03:06:01PM NOT JUST BLACK PROJECTS IN BLACK COMMUNITIES.
03:06:04PM I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
03:06:05PM OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SAYS IT NOT BLACK ENOUGH WHEN IT IS OVER
03:06:08PM IN SOUTH TAMPA.
03:06:09PM SAYS IT NOT BLACK ENOUGH WHEN IT IS IN NORTH TAMPA EVERY
03:06:13PM TIME YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH, YOU SHOULD BE SAYING IT IS NOT
03:06:15PM BLACK ENOUGH.
03:06:16PM EVERY SINGLE PROJECT.
03:06:19PM NOT JUST THIS ONE.
03:06:20PM NOT ONLY JUST THAT, IF WE TAKE THE SCOPE OF HANNA.
03:06:25PM HANNA HAD SEVERAL BUILDINGS.
03:06:26PM $74 MILLION.
03:06:28PM IT WAS A LARGER TASK.
03:06:30PM IT PROVIDED FOR GREATER OPPORTUNITY.
03:06:32PM AND IT DID EXIST, BUT IT WASN'T THERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
03:06:37PM IT WASN'T THERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
03:06:39PM THEY HAD TO WORK TO GET TO THAT 35%.
03:06:42PM SKANSKA IS MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO INCREASE NOSE NUMBERS.
03:06:50PM THE LAST TIME STAFF 10% NOW AT 14%.
03:06:53PM MYLO HAD THE WORD GOAL AND YOU HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
03:06:58PM NOW WE ARE SAYING GOAL, AND NOW YOU ARE HAVING A PROBLEM
03:07:00PM WITH IT.
03:07:01PM THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
03:07:02PM THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
03:07:04PM THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
03:07:07PM IT IS NOT RUSHED.
03:07:08PM IT IS NOT PRESSED.
03:07:09PM IT IS NOT HALF-BAKED.
03:07:10PM WE ARE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW.
03:07:12PM THAT IS JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.
03:07:13PM THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN ADDITIONAL WEEK TO GO FROM 14%
03:07:18PM TO 16%.
03:07:19PM OR FROM 14% TO 20%.
03:07:21PM THIS PROCESS IS BEING WORKED ON -- WHEN SHE SAID THEY CALLED
03:07:25PM EVERY SINGLE BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS.
03:07:27PM THOSE WHO WERE EXCITED AND READY TO GO, THEY ARE READY TO
03:07:31PM GO.
03:07:31PM LET'S BE REALISTIC.
03:07:33PM THIS IS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.
03:07:34PM WE DON'T PAY PEOPLE REAL FAST.
03:07:37PM TAKES A LOT OF PROCESSES AND LOOPHOLES FOR PEOPLE TO GO
03:07:40PM THROUGH.
03:07:40PM YOU HEARD HER STAND UP AND SAY EVEN NOTICE PROCESS OF -- OF
03:07:45PM -- OF GOING THROUGH MENTORING AND GETTING HER BUSINESS
03:07:49PM READY.
03:07:49PM SHE HAD TO GO AND TAKE THINGS BACK TO IMPROVE IT.
03:07:53PM TO IMPROVE THOSE PROCESSES.
03:07:55PM THIS PROJECT IS READY TO GO TODAY.
03:07:59PM FOUR VOTES TODAY.
03:08:03PM IF YOU DELAY IT ANYMORE, YOU WILL HAVE TAKEN THE BLOW OF ALL
03:08:07PM THE CITY STAFF, EVERYTHING THAT BEEN DONE TO WORK TOWARD
03:08:12PM GETTING FAIR OAKS HERE TODAY REGARDLESS OF APPREHENSION IN
03:08:17PM OUR COMMUNITY.
03:08:18PM YES, BE CONCERNED.
03:08:19PM ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
03:08:21PM BUT WE ARE NOT DELAYING FOR ANOTHER MINUTE.
03:08:24PM THAT DENIAL WILL COST US FUNDING.
03:08:29PM WE WILL LOSE THE MOMENTUM.
03:08:30PM WE ARE ALREADY HERE.
03:08:33PM WE ARE HERE TODAY.
03:08:34PM TODAY.
03:08:38PM TODAY.
03:08:39PM NOT NEXT WEEK.
03:08:41PM NOT A MONTH FROM NOW.
03:08:43PM NOT ANOTHER MEETING.
03:08:44PM RIGHT NOW.
03:08:45PM RIGHT NOW.
03:08:46PM THAT IS JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.
03:08:48PM REMEMBER, THE LAST THING THAT I AM GOING TO SAY -- AND IF WE
03:08:56PM ARE --
03:09:04PM >> AND WHAT -- EVERY DAY.
03:09:07PM AND I AM GOING TO WITHOUT.
03:09:10PM AND WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE SAME POINT.
03:09:13PM DESERVE TO OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
03:09:23PM LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.
03:09:25PM I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
03:09:27PM I GREW UP IN WEST TAMPA.
03:09:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:09:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS --
03:09:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TODAY.
03:09:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:09:49PM I AM SO GLAD THAT MY RIGHT EAR DOESN'T HEAR TOO WELL.
03:09:53PM I AM ONLY JOKING REQUEST YOU AND WILL LIVEN UP.
03:09:59PM AT STATE PARK, THAT IS ALL WE HAD THAT AND SWIMMING POOL.
03:10:05PM BELMONT HEIGHTS.
03:10:11PM JACKSON HEIGHTS.
03:10:12PM THREE LITTLE FIELD.
03:10:13PM JACKSON HAD IT.
03:10:15PM BELMONT HAD IT AND PLAY IN LITTLE LEAGUE.
03:10:18PM EACH PART WAS DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
03:10:21PM EACH PARK HAD A DIRECTOR.
03:10:22PM AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
03:10:28PM SO EACH PARK HAD A DIRECTOR -- AND THAT DIRECTOR HAD TO
03:10:33PM TEACH BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, SOCCER, BADMINTON,
03:10:41PM THAT PERSON HAD TO DO IT.
03:10:44PM A LOT MORE, WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN YOUR HOUSE YOU DON'T HAVE
03:11:07PM TO LEAVE IT FOR ANYTHING.
03:11:08PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS.
03:11:12PM KIDS DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER.
03:11:13PM SO WE TRAVELED.
03:11:20PM WE LAID IN AGAINST AFRICAN-AMERICANS, HISPANIC TEAM.
03:11:24PM WHITE TEAM.
03:11:25PM GRAY TEAMS.
03:11:27PM WHOEVER.
03:11:27PM THEN WHAT THE WE WERE BETTER.
03:11:29PM WE JUST PRACTICED LONGER.
03:11:30PM RIGHT, JOE.
03:11:32PM >> YES, SIR.
03:11:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU PRACTICE NOT TO WIN.
03:11:37PM YOU PRACTICE NOT TO LOSE YOU PRACTICE NOT TO LOSE.
03:11:45PM IT'S LIKE MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING.
03:11:51PM AND HOW YOU SPEND IT AND HOW YOU MAKE IT.
03:11:53PM HOWEVER, WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IS ONE OF YOUR YOUNG BOYS
03:12:01PM AND GIRLS THERE.
03:12:01PM WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN.
03:12:03PM WHAT THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL PUT IN THERE.
03:12:05PM AND YOU UNDERSTAND AFTER A CERTAIN AGE, YOU GOT TO WORK.
03:12:09PM AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET A JOB IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN
03:12:12PM EDUCATION AND THINGS THAT GO AROUND THAT WE ALL FORGET.
03:12:15PM IT AIN'T ABOUT JUST PLAYING.
03:12:18PM PLAY SOMETHING JUST A PART OF GROWING UP.
03:12:20PM AND PLAYING, YOU LEARN HOW TO DO WHAT?
03:12:23PM COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR TEAM.
03:12:24PM AND DRY TO BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THE OTHER TEAM WITHOUT
03:12:32PM HURTING ANYBODY.
03:12:35PM SO A BIG INVESTMENT.
03:12:36PM BUT IT HAS A LOT OF BIG REWARDS.
03:12:39PM GOING TO JAIL AND COMING BACK WHEN YOU ARE IN JAIL.
03:12:47PM WHERE DO YOU GO TO WHEN YOU COME OUT?
03:12:50PM I TELL YOU WHERE YOU GO TO.
03:12:51PM YOU COME RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
03:12:54PM AND YOUR CHANCES OF GOING IN ARE MUCH GREATER IF YOU WENT
03:12:58PM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
03:12:58PM SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE SOMEWHERE.
03:13:06PM I SEE IT MORE THAN A $34 TO $40 MILLION INVESTMENT PLUS
03:13:11PM INTEREST.
03:13:12PM I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME
03:13:16PM OUT THAT HAVE A MUCH WIDER SCOPE OF LIFE AND WHAT IT IS
03:13:20PM ABOUT.
03:13:21PM IT AIN'T ABOUT JUST PLAYING BASKETBALL, SOCCER, BASEBALL,
03:13:25PM AND WHATEVER ELSE, IT IS ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS.
03:13:29PM IT IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SOMEONE ELSE'S FEELINGS.
03:13:33PM HOW YOU LOOK.
03:13:33PM HOW YOU FEEL.
03:13:34PM SOMEONE LOOKED AT YOU ONE WAY.
03:13:37PM GET AWAY WITH THAT ONE.
03:13:39PM THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU LEARNED.
03:13:41PM RIGHT NOW NO ONE KNOWS.
03:13:42PM YOU KNOW WHY?
03:13:44PM YOU LIVE IN A VACUUM.
03:13:45PM CALLED AN APARTMENT OR HOUSE.
03:13:48PM NO PORCH, AIR CONDITIONING, ALL THE AMENITIES.
03:13:57PM AND NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT ARE DOING
03:14:01PM THE SAME THING AND NOBODY SPEAKS TO EACH OTHER.
03:14:04PM I AM NOT A PSYCHIATRIST BUT I KNOW I CAN TELL THAT FIVE
03:14:08PM MINUTES ARE UP.
03:14:08PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CREATE AN ENTITY FOR SOMEBODY TO
03:14:11PM GIVE SOMEBODY HOPE THAT THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE BEHIND THAT
03:14:14PM CAN COME IN AND MULTIPLY AND MULTIPLY.
03:14:16PM WE HAVE THE LIFTING OF NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT FURTHER
03:14:19PM INVESTMENT FROM GOVERNMENT.
03:14:20PM AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
03:14:22PM ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE GOING OUT AND DOING THINGS THAT IS
03:14:25PM EXPECTED OF THEM WITHOUT THEM KNOWING ABOUT IT.
03:14:27PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:14:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO TO THE SECOND ROUND, ANYBODY
03:14:33PM ELSE WISH TO SAY ANYTHING?
03:14:35PM GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:14:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:14:38PM MR. MULKEY, COME BACK TO THE PODIUM.
03:14:41PM I WANT TO ADDRESS THE EDITORIAL IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" OF
03:14:47PM THE EXAGGERATION OF $100 MILLION IN TERMS OF OPERATIONAL
03:14:51PM COST.
03:14:52PM CAN YOU ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THAT IS OVER THE -- OVER THE
03:14:55PM LONG TERM OF -- IT REALLY BEING JUST 2% AND THE EXAGGERATION
03:15:01PM OF THAT NUMBER.
03:15:02PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT FOR THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT.
03:15:05PM >> SURE, TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
03:15:09PM JUST TO ADDRESS THAT TOPIC THERE.
03:15:11PM THAT WAS A -- THAT WAS A WRAP IN ON ALL OPERATING COSTS, THE
03:15:17PM YEARLY BUDGET FOR STAFFING SUPPLIES, MAINTENANCE, THINGS
03:15:20PM LIKE THAT OVER A 30-YEAR TERM.
03:15:21PM SO THAT IT WAS ADDED IN TO GET TO THAT $100 MILLION NUMBER
03:15:25PM ON THAT.
03:15:26PM THE ACTUAL INCREASE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT REPRESENTS LESS
03:15:29PM THAN A 2% INCREASE IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKS AND
03:15:33PM RECREATION BUDGET.
03:15:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
03:15:35PM APPRECIATE IT.
03:15:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I ASK COUNCILMEMBER --
03:15:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
03:15:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:15:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:YOU SAID 2% OF THE OVERALL PARKS AND RECREATION
03:15:43PM BUDGET.
03:15:45PM SO, YES, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS CITY, THE ADMINISTRATION ONLY
03:15:49PM WANTS TO LOOK AT CAPITAL COSTS INSTEAD OF TOTAL COSTS AND
03:15:52PM THE PUBLIC EXPECTS US TO LOOK AT TOTAL COST.
03:15:55PM SO WE HAD THE SAME LOOK AT HANNA AVENUE.
03:15:57PM THE SAME LOOK AT THE WEST RIVERWALK WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN
03:16:01PM DOWNTOWN.
03:16:01PM AND WE HAVE THE SAME LOOK AT ALL THESE PROJECTS.
03:16:04PM AND SO, $41 MILLION PLUS HOW MUCH INTEREST PLUS HOW MUCH
03:16:11PM OVER 30 YEARS INCREASE IN O&M COSTS.
03:16:14PM IT IS $108 MILLION, ISN'T IT?
03:16:22PM >> I WILL LET THE NUMBERS GUY DO A LITTLE BIT.
03:16:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE WERE TALKING TOILET TO TAP AND THE MAYOR
03:16:29PM HAD SOMEONE SEND ME AN E-MAIL BECAUSE THEY SAID I WAS LYING
03:16:33PM TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE CAPITAL COST INSTEAD OF THE TOTAL
03:16:38PM COST, IF IT IS $108 MILLION AND 09 OR 100, THAT IS FINE.
03:16:43PM BUT THE PUBLIC DESERVES THE TRUTH ON THE NUMBERS.
03:16:46PM TODAY WE ARE ONLY APPROVING 36, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE
03:16:50PM FIVE OR SIX HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPENT.
03:16:52PM I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
03:16:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, DENNIS ROGERO,
03:16:58PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
03:16:59PM IF I MAY GO TO THE ELMO AGAIN.
03:17:01PM AGAIN, SO WE ARE ALL IN ON THE SAME PAGE AND TALKING OF THE
03:17:05PM SAME NUMBERS.
03:17:05PM THIS IS A SUMMARIZATION OF WHAT IS IN THE APPROVED CAPITAL
03:17:10PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.
03:17:14PM THE FUTURE DEBT PROCEEDS, THAT IS MORE OR LESS WHAT WE ARE
03:17:17PM TALKING ABOUT TODAY ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT ISSUING ANY DEBT
03:17:20PM TODAY, WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT
03:17:23PM APPROXIMATING THAT AMOUNT, AND WE OPEN WE WILL PAY FOR THAT
03:17:26PM CONTRACT WITH THAT SERVICE.
03:17:27PM NOT WITHSTANDING SOME COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THIS
03:17:31PM EVENING.
03:17:31PM YOU CAN SEE ALSO -- AGAIN THIS IS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
03:17:35PM PROGRAM.
03:17:35PM $177 MILLION FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FEDERAL STIMULUS.
03:17:39PM $1 MILLION.
03:17:40PM I HEARD THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR EAST TAMPA --
03:17:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH WE JUST TALK OF COSTS.
03:17:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM GETTING THERE IF YOU CAN INDULGE ME
03:17:50PM FOR JUST A SECOND.
03:17:51PM HERE ARE THE REVENUES AND HERE IS THE EXPENDITURES FURTHER
03:17:54PM TO YOUR COMMENT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:17:56PM CONSTRUCTION INCLUDES PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
03:17:59PM NICE AND BALANCED.
03:18:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE INTEREST ON THE $36 MILLION?
03:18:04PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND HERE IS THE NEXT.
03:18:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO MAKE YOU FAST BEFORE THEY CUT ME
03:18:09PM OFF.
03:18:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THE INDULGENCE.
03:18:11PM HERE THEY HAVE THE EXPENSES AND USES REPLICATE $$41.3
03:18:16PM MILLION.
03:18:16PM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, A LITTLE OVER $28 MILLION IN
03:18:19PM INTEREST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANTICIPATED DEBT.
03:18:22PM AND THEN YOUR TOTAL PROJECT EXPENSES WHICH I THINK IS NEARLY
03:18:26PM $70 MILLION.
03:18:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: OPERATING ON O&M.
03:18:30PM STANDARD QUESTION WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR ALL PROJECTS, NOT
03:18:33PM JUST THIS PROJECT.
03:18:34PM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE PAYING NOW FOR O
03:18:38PM &M AND WHAT WE ARE PAYING IN THE FUTURE.
03:18:39PM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
03:18:46PM WHAT IS THE FUTURE?
03:18:49PM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION.
03:18:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE TALKING SOMEWHERE OVER $100 MILLION
03:18:59PM FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT.
03:19:00PM THE PROJECT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
03:19:05PM TRANSFER RENT ON THE NUMBERS.
03:19:06PM THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY TO MY COLLEAGUE IS THAT THIS
03:19:10PM COUNCIL -- BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON IS THE FIRST
03:19:14PM COUNCIL IN HISTORY TO REJECT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS
03:19:17PM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HIT MBE GUIDELINES AND BLACK-OWNED
03:19:21PM BUSINESS GUIDELINES.
03:19:21PM AS A RESULT, THE ADMINISTRATION STARTED COMMUNICATING WITH
03:19:24PM US MORE EFFECTIVELY ON THAT AND THEY BRIEF US ON IT
03:19:27PM PRIVATELY.
03:19:27PM IF THERE IS ONE WE MISS, LET US KNOW.
03:19:30PM NOT ANY BIG PROJECTS IN SOUTH TAMPA, BY THE WAY, EXCEPT FOR
03:19:35PM THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS HELD
03:19:37PM DOWNTOWN IN CHANNEL DISTRICT.
03:19:39PM THE PARKS IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE FALLING APART.
03:19:41PM THE ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
03:19:42PM AND THE -- AND THE -- AND THE COMMUNITY IN SOUTH TAMPA HAS
03:19:47PM BEEN VERY PATIENT, MAKING SURE WE SPEND MONEY THROUGHOUT THE
03:19:51PM CITY AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF SPENDING MONEY
03:19:53PM ON FAIR OAKS.
03:19:54PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT AN OUTLANDISH AMOUNT OF
03:19:58PM MONEY TO BE SPENT.
03:19:59PM $5 MILLION OR $18 MILLION WAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO
03:20:03PM SPEND ON A PARK.
03:20:04PM 108 MILLION IS AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT WHEN NO BID.
03:20:08PM ANOTHER NO BID CONTRACT.
03:20:10PM NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD BE
03:20:13PM PAYING 36 OR 25.
03:20:15PM AND THE PUBLIC IS JUST NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT BONDING THINGS
03:20:20PM OUT, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO COST IN THIS CASE AS LEAST $28
03:20:24PM MILLION MORE AND NOT WILLING TO NOT HAVE BIDS ON IT.
03:20:28PM IF WE EXCEPTED THIS PLAN BECAUSE WE WILL PAY GO OVER TEN
03:20:33PM YEARS, THE PUBLIC WILL BE OKAY WITH IT.
03:20:34PM BONDING IT ALL OUT, BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS IT TO BE IN THE
03:20:37PM VIDEO IN THREE YEARS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
03:20:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:20:43PM YOU HAVE SIGNALED FIRST AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:20:46PM AND COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:20:48PM THIS IS THE SECOND ROUND.
03:20:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KEEP GOING TO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
03:20:52PM SAID BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN -- THE BUSINESS -- THE BUSINESS
03:20:55PM WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS.
03:20:56PM SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS INTEREST RATE, SIR, AS I
03:21:01PM PREVIOUSLY SAID, IF WE WERE TO ONLY BOND $20 MILLION OF THIS
03:21:05PM AND FIND THE OTHER $21.3 MILLION IN OUR -- IN OUR EXISTING
03:21:10PM BUDGET THROUGH CUTS OR -- OR FOUND MONEY, HOW WOULD THAT
03:21:14PM IMPACT THE INTEREST RATE BY CUTTING THAT BASICALLY A LITTLE
03:21:17PM BIT MORE THAN HALF?
03:21:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE INTEREST RATE.
03:21:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT THE INTEREST RATE, THE INTEREST WE
03:21:23PM PAID.
03:21:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
03:21:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXTRAPOLATE TO BASICALLY HALF?
03:21:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION, YES.
03:21:32PM IF YOU BOND ONLY HALF THE AMOUNT, THE INTEREST WILL HAD BEEN
03:21:36PM ABOUT HALF.
03:21:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABLE TO FIND THE MONEY TO PAY FOR HALF OF
03:21:41PM THIS, WE PAY HALF THE INTEREST AND WILL SAVE US $14 MILLION
03:21:46PM OR $15 MILLION.
03:21:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
03:21:49PM WELL SAID.
03:21:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T HEAR ANY DISAGREEMENT OF THE
03:21:54PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK, BUT GENERALLY UNCOMFORTABLENESS IS
03:21:59PM HOW YOU PAY FOR IT.
03:21:59PM WE ARE GETTING IN.
03:22:00PM BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN HAVE YOUR OWN OPINION ABOUT A LOT OF THIS
03:22:04PM STUFF AND WILL NOT HAVE YOUR OWN FACTS.
03:22:07PM THE COST OF THIS PARK IS WHAT YOU ARE PRESENT SOMETHING NOT
03:22:11PM DISPUTING THE FACTS AND FIGURES.
03:22:14PM WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE COST OF LAND ACQUISITION BECAUSE WE
03:22:18PM HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.
03:22:18PM WE KNOW THE COST IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT WE
03:22:21PM ALREADY KNOW THAT.
03:22:22PM AND WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE AND YOU CAN
03:22:26PM EXTRAPOLATE WHAT THE COSTS ARE.
03:22:28PM NOT OPINION, JUST FACTS.
03:22:30PM I THINK IT BEHOOVES US AGAIN -- AS LONG AS THE
03:22:35PM ADMINISTRATION IS COMFORTABLE FINDING THAT EXTRA MONEY IN
03:22:38PM THE BUDGET IN 2025 AND '26 TO RESTRICT THE BONDING BUT
03:22:43PM AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BOND THIS ENTIRE
03:22:45PM AMOUNT.
03:22:45PM WE NEED TO CUT THAT DOWN TO MEET IT HALFWAY, CUT IT DOWN TO
03:22:50PM $20 MILLION OF BONDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMES OUT OF OUR
03:22:53PM OWN HIDE.
03:22:54PM I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
03:22:57PM A WIN FOR EAST TAMPA AND THE FAIR OAKS COMPLEX AND THE
03:23:00PM PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR IT WILL DESERVE IT.
03:23:03PM AND I THINK IT IS A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
03:23:06PM AND I THINK PROBABLY MAYBE YOU CAN GET MORE SUPPORT ON
03:23:09PM COUNCIL IF YOU COME BACK WITH THAT TYPE OF A PLAN.
03:23:12PM >> CAN I ADD SOME CLARIFICATION TO THE STATEMENT AGAIN.
03:23:16PM I ALWAYS WANT CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN AS
03:23:19PM TO THE DECISIONS THEY ARE MAKING.
03:23:20PM APPROVING IN CONTRACT TODAY -- AND YOU SAID IT EARLIER, SIR
03:23:26PM -- NOT COMMITTING CITY COUNCIL TO DEBT BUT COMMITTING CITY
03:23:29PM COUNCIL TO AN EXPENSE.
03:23:30PM AND, AGAIN, OUR PRESUMPTIONS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS THAT
03:23:33PM THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL
03:23:36PM BE DEBT SERVICE.
03:23:37PM I AM NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO ISSUE --
03:23:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY QUESTION IS --
03:23:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
03:23:42PM AND I WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
03:23:45PM OF COURSE WE WILL -- AND I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME MORE
03:23:48PM QUESTIONS, AND I HAD ANSWER IT.
03:23:50PM BUT WE WILL LOOK AT VARIOUS SCENARIOS.
03:23:52PM I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE THAT THEY ARE COMMITTING
03:23:55PM THEMSELVES TO AN EXPENSE COMMITTED TO THIS CONTRACT THAT
03:23:58PM WILL HAVE TO BE FUNDED FROM SOMEPLACE.
03:24:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:24:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. RANSOM, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP HERE FOR
03:24:10PM A MOMENT?
03:24:17PM THANK YOU.
03:24:17PM YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE TALKED TO ALL OF US.
03:24:22PM WE HAVE GOTTEN INFORMATION.
03:24:24PM WE HEARD FROM EAR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BUT I DON'T SEE
03:24:27PM THEM HERE TODAY OR NOW, SO I AM COMING TO YOU.
03:24:30PM ARE YOU CONCERNED AT ALL ABOUT -- HOW DO YOU FEEL OF THIS
03:24:35PM 14% AND DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO MORE?
03:24:37PM DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN DO YOU FEEL
03:24:40PM THAT APPROVING THE CONTRACT TODAY WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH TO
03:24:43PM GO FORWARDS?
03:24:44PM OR ARE YOU STILL CONCERNED?
03:24:48PM >> LET ME --
03:24:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
03:24:51PM >> JAMES RANSOM ON THE BOARD OF TOBA AND CHAIR OF THE
03:24:56PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR TOBA.
03:24:58PM JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD, AFTER THE CITY SIGNS A CONTRACT
03:25:01PM WITH DPR, THE COMMUNITY HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT THE PEOPLE
03:25:06PM WHO CONTACTED US ARE CONTRACTORS.
03:25:08PM WHEN THEY CONTACT US, WE TRY TO GO AND GET DATA AND FACTS.
03:25:12PM WE ARE A GROUP THAT DEPENDS ON DATA AND FACTS TO BE WELL
03:25:17PM INFORMED BEFORE WE COME TO YOU.
03:25:18PM SO WE CAME TO YOU AND TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE CONCERNED THAT
03:25:22PM BE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SPEAK TO IT.
03:25:24PM SO WE DID OUR RESEARCH AND WE ARE BACK TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS
03:25:28PM HAPPENING.
03:25:28PM IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION, THE CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WAS
03:25:32PM NO PLAN TO REACH A GOAL.
03:25:34PM THERE WAS A GREAT GOAL OF 35% BUT NO PLAN WE COULD SEE THAT
03:25:37PM COULD REACH THE GOAL.
03:25:38PM SO WE ENDED UP MEETING WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER.
03:25:41PM THE MAY HAVE I DON'T REMEMBER'S TEAM.
03:25:42PM IT WAS A GREAT MEETING.
03:25:44PM THE MAYOR'S STAFF DID A GREAT JOB.
03:25:46PM AND THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED ALREADY.
03:25:49PM THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT ISSUE OF THE LACK OF PARTICIPATION
03:25:52PM WAS TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR WHO HAD THE CONTRACT.
03:25:54PM SO WE MET WITH PEOPLE OUT OF ATLANTA, GEORGIA, NORTH
03:25:58PM CAROLINA, ORLANDO AND TAMPA FROM DPR IN THEIR OFFICES.
03:26:01PM TOBA TOOK A TEAM, OUR ANALYSTS AND EVERYBODY AND WE TOLD
03:26:06PM THEM TO RELINQUISH 20% OF THEIR WOK ON THAT PROJECT TO MAKE
03:26:10PM SURE BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES GOT SOME WORK BECAUSE THE PROMISE
03:26:14PM THAT EAST TAMPA -- THAT THE BLACK COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT
03:26:17PM FROM THE ECONOMICS OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
03:26:19PM SO WE DIDN'T GO IN WITH INTENT TO STOP THE PROJECT.
03:26:23PM WE WENT IN WITH INTENT TO MAKE SURE BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES
03:26:26PM WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND ACTUALLY GET PAID.
03:26:28PM SO DPR, TO THEIR CREDIT AND TO THE CITY STAFF AND THEIR
03:26:33PM CREDIT, THERE WAS A NEGOTIATION WHERE THEY DID GO AND THEY
03:26:37PM COMMITTED, UNLIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID EARLIER FROM RELATED.
03:26:40PM THEY ACTUALLY COMMITTED 20% OF THE DIRECT SPEND WITH
03:26:45PM BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES.
03:26:46PM AND THEY EX-SEAT HE HAD THAT AMOUNT.
03:26:49PM THE CONCERN ABOUT THIS CONTRACT IS NOT ABOUT STOPPING THE
03:26:52PM PROJECT.
03:26:52PM IT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE CONDITIONS IN THE CONTRACT
03:26:55PM WHICH TALK ABOUT 30% MBE AND NOW 10% SPEND WITH BLACK-OWNED
03:27:01PM COMPANY IN THE SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA WHERE THE PROJECT OF
03:27:04PM HANNA AVENUE WAS BUILT.
03:27:05PM AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO RELY ON QUESTIONING STAFF IN A
03:27:08PM PUBLIC MEETING, BUT WE ASKED THEM TO SEND US A LIST OF ALL
03:27:11PM THE COMPANIES THEY CONTACT.
03:27:13PM WE ARE ON THE PHONE WITH THE CONTRACTOR WHO AIR IS THEY HAVE
03:27:17PM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT THAT WORKED ON THE
03:27:20PM HANNA AVENUE PROJECT.
03:27:22PM WE HAVE CONCERNED IF WE SIGN THE CONTRACT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT
03:27:26PM GETTING THAT NUMBER CHANGED, WE WILL MEET WITH SCANSKA.
03:27:31PM APRIL 8 -- WHICH IS AFTER YOU MAKE THE DECISION IF YOU DO
03:27:35PM THAT TODAY TO GET THEM TO RELINQUISH SOMETHING AND DO
03:27:39PM SOMETHING DIFFERENT OPPOSED TO SETTING THE BAR HERE.
03:27:41PM SO I DOESN'T THE MAYOR OR ANYONE TO BE CONFUSED -- OR THE
03:27:48PM COMMUNITY TO BE CONFUSED OF TOBA'S POSITION ON FAIR OAKS.
03:27:53PM WE SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
03:27:53PM WE SUPPORT FAIR OAKS.
03:27:55PM WE WANT THE PARK TO BE BUILT.
03:27:57PM WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A PARK THAT WAS PROMISED TO
03:28:00PM THE COMMUNITY.
03:28:01PM BUT WE WANT THE $34 MILLION IN EAST TAMPA TO BE SPENT -- I
03:28:06PM THINK IT IS SPENT FOR MORE OF A PERCENTAGE FOR BLACK-OWNED
03:28:10PM COMPANIES JUST LIKE HANNA AVENUE.
03:28:11PM THE CONCERN WILL BE, HOW DO WE GET THERE WITHOUT SLOWING THE
03:28:15PM PROJECT DOWN.
03:28:16PM WHAT CAN STAFF TO DO SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS ON FINDING THAT
03:28:21PM 20%, BECAUSE IF DID IT AT HANNA AVENUE.
03:28:25PM I TOLD STAFF EARLIER, 100% OF A BIGGER NUMBER AND A 100% OF
03:28:30PM A SMALLER NUMBER.
03:28:31PM PARTICIPATION CAN BE THE SAME OF PARTICIPATION.
03:28:34PM YOU ARE STILL TALKING OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
03:28:37PM INSTEAD OF QUESTIONING THAT IN AUDIENCE, WE CAN LOOK BACK AT
03:28:40PM WHAT THEY DID.
03:28:41PM HOW THEY DID IT.
03:28:42PM WHO THEY WERE TALKING WITH.
03:28:44PM AND FIND OUT IF WE CAN PRETTY MUCH VERIFY WHAT THEY ARE
03:28:47PM TALKING ABOUT.
03:28:48PM RIGHT NOW WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT, BECAUSE HANNA AVENUE --
03:28:51PM HANNA AVENUE IS REAL.
03:28:52PM THAT WAS REAL MONEY.
03:28:53PM SO WE DO HAVE A CONCERN.
03:28:55PM IT IS YOUR DECISION.
03:28:57PM WE DO NOT WANT TO STOP THIS PROJECT.
03:28:58PM WE DON'T WANT TO STOP THE PROJECT.
03:29:00PM WE WANT MORE BLACK PARTICIPATION ON THE PROJECT.
03:29:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:29:03PM AND I -- SOMEONE HAVE A QUESTION?
03:29:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE IF -- WE CAN'T HEAR UP HERE.
03:29:11PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:29:11PM YES, MA'AM?
03:29:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY WHILE MR. RANSOM IS UP, IF
03:29:17PM MR. VIERA WANTS TO ASK A QUESTION.
03:29:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:29:20PM NO, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME UP, SIR.
03:29:24PM LET ME ASK YOU, IS THERE ANYTHING -- BECAUSE I HEARD
03:29:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:29:28PM I AM HEARING YOU THAT THERE IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF
03:29:31PM AGREEMENT THERE, RIGHT.
03:29:32PM 100% AGREEMENT THERE.
03:29:35PM ESSENTIALLY -- I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THE
03:29:38PM COUNCILWOMAN FROM THIS AREA.
03:29:39PM MOVE THIS THING FORWARD AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS I THINK --
03:29:43PM IS THERE ANY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE TODAY?
03:29:45PM >> I THINK IT IS A LEGAL QUESTION.
03:29:46PM HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE COUNCIL VOTE TO DO WHAT
03:29:51PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WANTS AND WE WANT AND STILL ADDRESS
03:29:55PM THIS CURIOSITY AROUND HOW STAFF ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
03:30:03PM THAT WAS $108 MILLION AND ONE $34 MILLION.
03:30:07PM AND YOU GOT PERCENTAGES GO FROM 20% TO 10%.
03:30:11PM WHATEVER THEY SAID ABOUT THAT, WE DON'T BUY THAT RIGHT NOW.
03:30:15PM WE HAVE TO GET OUR DATA ON THAT AND RESEARCH ON THAT TO
03:30:17PM FIGURE OUT HOW THEY DO THAT.
03:30:19PM FOUND 4% SOMEHOW.
03:30:21PM THAT'S FINE.
03:30:21PM BUT WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
03:30:23PM IT IS EAST TAMPA.
03:30:25PM IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN THAT TECHNICALLY.
03:30:26PM SO 10% -- 10% IS VERY LOW.
03:30:30PM THE STIR DID SOMETHING TRANSFORMATIVE, HISTORIC.
03:30:33PM WE SUPPORT THE MAYOR AND THE STAFF AND DPR.
03:30:37PM THIS COUNCIL, FOR DOING SOMETHING UNPRECEDENTED AND HISTORIC
03:30:43PM IN HANNA AVENUE IN TERMS OF SPENDING MONEY.
03:30:45PM IT WAS AMAZING.
03:30:46PM THIS PARTICULAR FAIR OAKS PROJECTS IS A GREAT DESIGN.
03:30:49PM PEOPLE LIKE IT.
03:30:50PM COMMUNITY WANTS IT.
03:30:51PM WANT THE CHANGE NAME.
03:30:52PM SPARKS MYSTERY.
03:30:55PM WE HAVE TO SOLVE A MYSTERY.
03:31:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE WE LET MR. RANSOM SPEAK TO STAFF AND WE
03:31:15PM CAN REACH -- IF I MAY, WE CAN REACH A YES TODAY.
03:31:17PM BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO GET THERE TODAY.
03:31:22PM >> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
03:31:23PM WE DON'T WANT THE PROJECT STOPPED.
03:31:26PM WE DON'T WANT IT STOPPED.
03:31:28PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
03:31:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:31:31PM >> WE DON'T WANT THE PROJECT STOPPED.
03:31:33PM WHAT TOBA IS TALKING -- IF YOU SIGN THIS PROJECT.
03:31:37PM IF YOU LOOK AT 92 ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE
03:31:40PM AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO -- TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT.
03:31:45PM IF YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE CONTRACT TO DEAL WITH
03:31:47PM THESE NUMBERS, THAT IS THE ISSUE.
03:31:49PM HOW DO YOU DO THAT.
03:31:51PM HOW IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN.
03:31:52PM IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE AT 14%.
03:31:54PM WE HAVE DONE OUR JOB TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
03:31:57PM IF THE COMMUNITY IS OKAY WITH 14% AND IF THE BLACK COMMUNITY
03:32:02PM IS OFFERING WITH THAT.
03:32:02PM WE HAVE DONE YOUR PART.
03:32:03PM ALL WE CAN IS BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND WALK AWAY -- IS
03:32:09PM THAT WHAT YOU ALL WANT?
03:32:10PM OKAY, WE ARE GOOD.
03:32:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RANSOM.
03:32:13PM >> WE ARE DONE.
03:32:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:32:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, I DO APPRECIATE MR. RANSOM LOOKING
03:32:20PM OUT FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY IN EAST
03:32:24PM TAMPA.
03:32:24PM THE TAMPA ORGANIZATION OF BLACK AFFAIRS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF
03:32:28PM ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:32:29PM SO THIS PARTICULAR THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT, THOSE CONCERNS
03:32:36PM SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE TOP OF THIS PLAN.
03:32:38PM WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
03:32:41PM WE ARE HERE.
03:32:44PM THE STAFF HAS MADE THE EFFORT.
03:32:45PM THEY ARE CONTINUING TO INCREASE THE EFFORT.
03:32:49PM AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
03:32:51PM TOBA DOES NOT NEED TO COME IN AND RESCUE THIS PROJECT.
03:32:56PM THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
03:32:58PM THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS.
03:33:00PM WE HAVE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS.
03:33:01PM STAFF HAS HEARD YOUR CONCERNS.
03:33:03PM BUT IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO DELAY ANOTHER WEEK FOR YOU TO
03:33:07PM TALK TO THEM AND THEN GET THE OKAY.
03:33:08PM WE CAN DO THE OKAY TODAY.
03:33:10PM AND MOVE FORWARD.
03:33:11PM BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS ON THE HANNA STREET
03:33:14PM PROJECT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
03:33:16PM THEY GOT THERE IN THE END.
03:33:18PM WE CAN GO TODAY AND I FEEL THAT THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WHO
03:33:22PM HAVE BEEN IN THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING MAKE THAT VERY
03:33:26PM CLEAR TODAY.
03:33:27PM WE DON'T NEED TO DELAY IT TO APIECE OR POLITICIZE THIS ISSUE
03:33:32PM ANY FURTHER.
03:33:32PM THE COMMUNITY HAS WAITED LONG STUFF.
03:33:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: TEN SECONDS, MR. CHAIR.
03:33:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
03:33:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO CLARIFY, MY REQUEST FOR SPEAKING WAS
03:33:43PM TO DO THIS TODAY NOT FOR NEXT WEEK TOP TO CLARIFY THAT.
03:33:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, CAN I REQUEST
03:33:49PM YOU A QUESTION.
03:33:50PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ITEM NUMBER 289.
03:33:53PM WOULD YOU DO THE HONORS.
03:33:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL HAPPILY DO THAT.
03:33:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION?
03:33:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I WILL.
03:34:00PM I MOVE -- I WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
03:34:02PM FILE NUMBER PRC 24-3502.
03:34:07PM I MOVE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN-BUILD SERVICES
03:34:10PM AGREEMENT WITH A GUARANTEE MINIMUM PRICE GMP 1 FOR CONTRACT
03:34:16PM 22-C 0028 EAST RECREATIONAL COMPLEX DESIGN-BUILD BETWEEN THE
03:34:22PM CITY OF CAP AND SKANSKA IN THE AMOUNT MUCH $34,686,537,
03:34:31PM AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF
03:34:35PM THE CITY OF TAMPA PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:34:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
03:34:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
03:34:44PM THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION.
03:34:46PM I APPRECIATE IT.
03:34:47PM SO NOTED.
03:34:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:34:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
03:34:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:34:52PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:34:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:34:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:35:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:35:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THE CALF THAT THE ABOUT THE
03:35:07PM FINANCING, YES.
03:35:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ABSOLUTELY.
03:35:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:35:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:35:11PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
03:35:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:35:15PM [APPLAUSE]
03:35:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP.
03:35:27PM MR. MULKEY, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 93 --
03:35:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO SAY THE REASON I WANTED THIS TO COME
03:35:35PM FORWARD AND MR. MULKEY, HE WANTS TO TELL US ABOUT -- [GAVEL
03:35:43PM SOUNDING]
03:35:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. MULKEY WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF
03:35:50PM THE ACTIVITIES TO ADDS TO SPRING BREAK.
03:35:52PM SOME OF THE STAY AND PLAY ACTIVITIES THEY WERE GOING TO ADD.
03:35:55PM AND WAYS WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD SO WE HAVE MORE OF THIS
03:35:59PM COMING.
03:35:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MULKEY.
03:36:02PM >> TONY MULKEY, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
03:36:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU KEEP IT DOWN.
03:36:09PM THE MEETING IS GOING ON.
03:36:10PM WILL YOU KEEP IT DO YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT, I WOULD
03:36:13PM APPRECIATE IT.
03:36:13PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:36:14PM >> PLEASED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TO DISCUSS THE UPDATE OF
03:36:17PM THE MEMO I PROVIDED IN JANUARY REGARDING EVENING ACTIVITY
03:36:22PM FOR TEENS.
03:36:22PM AT THIS TIME, WE WERE DISCUSSING POTENTIAL CURFEWS AND OTHER
03:36:28PM -- OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE COULD TRY TO KEEP OUR YOUTH SAFE.
03:36:31PM AND OFF THE STREETS.
03:36:33PM WITH THAT, TPD WAS ABLE TO STEP FORWARD AND SUPPORT OUR STAY
03:36:39PM AND PLAY PROGRAM WHILE ALSO EXPANDING THE PROGRAM TO THE
03:36:43PM POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE DURING OUR SPRING BREAK THAT WE
03:36:46PM RECENTLY HAD.
03:36:47PM AND THIS PROGRAMMING WAS EXPANDED.
03:36:49PM WE HAD OVER 500 VISION ITS DURING THE WEEK OF TEENS THAT
03:36:53PM WERE IN OUR CENTER GETTING COACHING, PARTICIPATING
03:36:55PM ACTIVITIES, HAVING FUN, AND GETTING POSITIVITIES MENTOR HYMN
03:36:59PM IS INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE STREETS AND POTENTIALLY SUBJECT
03:37:02PM TO NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF BEHAVIORS OR CRIME.
03:37:05PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS
03:37:08PM SOMETHING WE REINSTITUTED SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
03:37:12PM WE WERE ABLE TO CHARTER A BUS AND TAKE KIDS FROM THROUGHOUT
03:37:14PM THE CITY FROM THE DIFFERENT STAY AND PLAY PLACES IN OUR TLC
03:37:19PM PROGRAM ALONG WITH THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE TO ORLANDO
03:37:24PM FOR UCF FOR A COLLEGE VISIT.
03:37:26PM PART OF A BROADER STRATEGY TO -- TO GET OUR YOUTH INTO
03:37:30PM DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHERE THEY CAN SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES
03:37:33PM ARE PRESENTS.
03:37:34PM THIS ISN'T JUST GOING TO BE A COLLEGE PUSH.
03:37:36PM IT WILL BE TRADES.
03:37:37PM IT WILL BE WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT.
03:37:39PM PART OF THE STRATEGY TO TRY TO EXPOSE OUR YOUTH TO
03:37:42PM OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE WHAT IS OUT THERE TO CREATE THAT SPARK
03:37:46PM FOR THAT MOMENT TO SAY I CAN DO THIS.
03:37:48PM I CAN GO HERE OR TAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR USUAL ELEMENT AND
03:37:52PM KIND OF SEE KIND OF A NEW EXPERIENCE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE
03:37:56PM EVERY DAY OR THE RESOURCES THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
03:38:00PM CONCERNS ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT WE ALL MIGHT TAKE FOR
03:38:03PM GRANTED AS BEING ADULTS.
03:38:04PM I THINK THAT REMEMBERING BACK WHEN I WAS A KID AND THERE IS
03:38:07PM THAT MOMENT THAT KIND OF SAID, OH, I CAN DO SOMETHING MORE
03:38:10PM THAN -- THAN JUST WHAT I DO AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:38:13PM I CAN EXPLORE THE WORLD AND SEE DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:38:15PM SO PART OF THIS, WE ALSO INCLUDED OM CULINARY PROGRAMS.
03:38:21PM AND A "TOP CHEF" TYPE OF CHALLENGE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT
03:38:27PM CENTERS ONE NIGHT.
03:38:28PM A FIELD DAY OF RIVERFRONT PARK DOWNTOWN.
03:38:30PM WE BROUGHT KIDS FROM DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER WHICH
03:38:33PM IS VERY IMPORTANT.
03:38:33PM THE POLICE ALTAR LEAPT I CAN LEAGUE FACILITATED SOME DAYTIME
03:38:38PM PROGRAMMING GOING IN A BOXES GYM IN YBOR.
03:38:41PM THIS COORDINATED EFFORTS TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO INTERACT
03:38:46PM WITH OUR YOUTH.
03:38:47PM HAVE YOUTH INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER FROM DIFFERENT
03:38:50PM NEIGHBORHOODS AND SEE MORE OF THE WORLD AND GET THAT
03:38:53PM EXPERIENCE.
03:38:53PM PART OF IMPLEMENTING A BROADER STRATEGY TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY
03:38:57PM THE TEENS BUT THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS AND THE FAMILIES.
03:39:00PM THAT IS WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS CREATE OUR CENTERS TO BE THE
03:39:06PM CORE LIST, THE INCUBATOR FOR WORK FORCE, IF THE, PHYSICAL
03:39:15PM AND MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL BEING.
03:39:17PM SOMETHING WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
03:39:19PM THE SUPPORT OF TB OF PD, THE EXPANSION OF P.A.L. AND MORE
03:39:25PM AND MORE STEPS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THAT MEMO.
03:39:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISS HURTAK.
03:39:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:39:32PM THIS WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I WAS EXPECTING THAT WE WERE
03:39:35PM ABLE TO DO ON SUCH AT THAT SHORT NOTICE.
03:39:38PM IT IS JUST AMAZING.
03:39:39PM SO I AM HOPING THAT FROM THIS, EITHER YOU CAN TAKE -- BRING
03:39:43PM BACK MORE OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE USED TO HAVE, OR THINK
03:39:46PM ABOUT WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO EXPAND THEM.
03:39:49PM BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR --
03:39:54PM FOR, YOU, A -- AN ESTIMATE -- FOR HOW MANY OF HOW MUCH IT
03:40:08PM WILL COST TO HAVE IT OPEN LATER.
03:40:11PM A GREAT PLACE TO START FOR -- FOR -- THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
03:40:15PM AND SO IF HE CAN DO THAT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
03:40:19PM AS WE ARE THINKING OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHAT WOULD THAT
03:40:23PM TAKE, WHAT IS THE COST, REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY A
03:40:28PM LITTLE BIT.
03:40:28PM MAYBE DOING A COUPLE -- MAYBE A COUPLE -- I THINK FOUR IS
03:40:32PM REALLY A GOOD NUMBER.
03:40:34PM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE GARBAGE RATE INCREASE.
03:40:38PM DOING COMMUNITY MEET INFORMATION ALL FOUR PARTS OF THE CITY.
03:40:42PM DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL HERE TO HEAR FROM THE
03:40:46PM COMMUNITY THE YOUTH AND PARENTS OF WHAT OTHER TYPES OF
03:40:50PM THINGS WE CAN TO DO CREATE A VERY ROBUST PROGRAM.
03:40:52PM I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE PERFECT AND FULLY DONE OUT BY
03:40:56PM OCTOBER, BUT -- BUT WHAT CAN WE DO GOING FORWARD?
03:41:00PM WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?
03:41:01PM AND HOW CAN WE BUILD UPON IT AND WHAT WILL IT TAKE FROM US
03:41:05PM FINANCIALLY TO DO THAT.
03:41:06PM I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU IN THE FUTURE AND
03:41:10PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ARE DOING ON
03:41:12PM THIS.
03:41:12PM >>TONY MULKEY: THANK YOU, I THINK OUR STAFF IS TO CREDIT FOR
03:41:17PM THIS.
03:41:18PM OUR PROGRAMMERS.
03:41:19PM THEY ARE CREATIVE AND HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES.
03:41:21PM YOU MENTION THE BUDGET AND ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.
03:41:23PM I WANT TO LEAN ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND IN-KIND
03:41:29PM SERVICES.
03:41:29PM FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND TEACH
03:41:32PM FINANCIAL LITERACY.
03:41:34PM CHEFS -- CULINARY PROGRAMS WE CAN ENGAGE WITH.
03:41:37PM A WEALTH OF REF SOURCES IN TAMPA AND I WOULD LOVE TO ENGAGE
03:41:41PM IN ALL OF THEM.
03:41:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:41:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, PRO TEM.
03:41:47PM I REALLY APPRECIATE, MR. MULKEY, THIS PRESENTATION VERY
03:41:52PM MUCH.
03:41:52PM GREAT THINGS HAPPEN IN PARKS AND REC, YOU HAVE GREAT LEADERS
03:41:58PM WHO BECOME WONDERFUL CITIZENS OUT OF PARKS.
03:42:01PM TO EXPOS THEM IN COLLEGE TOURS IS NOT ENOUGH ELEMENT WE ARE
03:42:05PM REQUIRED TO DO BUT CLEARLY YOUR PROGRAMMERS HAVE GONE ABOVE
03:42:09PM AND BEYOND BECAUSE OF THAT.
03:42:10PM I AM GLAD YOU TALKED OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
03:42:13PM BECAUSE EVEN THAT HE EXTENSION, THAT IS THE MUSCLE WE NEED
03:42:18PM TO BUILD AS A CITY.
03:42:19PM WE -- THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT RELY ON US TO BE THE RESOLUTION
03:42:22PM FOR EVERYTHING.
03:42:24PM THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE-PARTNERSHIP IS A KEY ELEMENT ESPECIALLY
03:42:28PM WHEN IT COMES TO OUR YOUTH.
03:42:29PM AND I KNOW A LOT OF COMPANIES CAN GET BEHIND THAT.
03:42:32PM SO THE IMPACT CAN BE EVEN GREATER.
03:42:34PM BUT THIS IS A WONDERFUL START.
03:42:35PM I APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.
03:42:36PM >>TONY MULKEY: THANK YOU.
03:42:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:42:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. MULKEY BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE.
03:42:46PM NOT TO PUT PRESSURE ON YOU, THE GOOD PEOPLE AT THE
03:42:49PM BASKETBALL COURTS HAVE BEEN DOWN AND PUT ON LIGHTS TO PLAY
03:42:53PM BASKETBALL.
03:42:53PM I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT SOONER RATHER
03:42:59PM THAN LATER.
03:42:59PM >>TONY MULKEY: SURE THING.
03:43:01PM WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THEM ON THE RENEWAL OF THE PERMIT
03:43:04PM AND SPOKE WITH MR. MICHELINI REGARDING THIS.
03:43:07PM WE HAVE IT IN THE PIPELINE BUT WORKING THROUGH THE
03:43:11PM PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
03:43:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:43:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:43:14PM NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 94.
03:43:16PM 94, WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MISS WYNN.
03:43:20PM SHE IS HERE.
03:43:21PM MR. BRODY.
03:43:25PM YES, MA'AM.
03:43:26PM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:43:30PM OCEA WYNN, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
03:43:33PM FEBRUARY 6, WE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO COME BACK TO
03:43:37PM DISCUSS WITH YOU -- BECAUSE WE WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
03:43:39PM MEET WITH THE NAACP ABOUT THEIR CONTRACT.
03:43:42PM AND I AM GOING TO LET -- AND THAT DID OWE.
03:43:45PM WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS ARMED I WILL LET LEGAL TEAM, CARL
03:43:49PM BRODY, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
03:43:52PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:43:56PM YES, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY -- MISS WYNN AND I HAD AN
03:44:00PM OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE NAACP BUILDING AND MEET WITH MISS
03:44:04PM LEWIS.
03:44:04PM WE PULLED OUT A DRAFT CONTRACT.
03:44:06PM AND LINED THROUGH IT.
03:44:08PM AND MADE CHANGES THAT SHE WAS INTERESTED IN.
03:44:11PM WE UPDATED THE AGREEMENT SO IT WILL BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH
03:44:16PM THE SAME EXACT AGREEMENT SHE HAS WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
03:44:19PM THE JOHN BENNETT FIT TO THAT IS TO COMPLY WITH PERFORMANCE
03:44:24PM MEASURES, HAD TO DO IT ONCE INSTEAD OF TWO SETS OF
03:44:29PM PERFORMANCE MEASURES TO SATISFY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
03:44:31PM THE WAY THE CONTRACT WAS WRITTEN, COMPLY WITH ONE COMPLIES
03:44:36PM WITH BOTH.
03:44:36PM SO WE -- WE LEFT THAT WITH -- CURRENTLY HAS WITH HER
03:44:41PM ATTORNEYS TO REVIEW.
03:44:42PM THEY WILL GET BACK WITH US.
03:44:44PM AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A FINAL BINDING CONTRACT FOR
03:44:49PM THIS CURRENT YEAR FOR THE NA ACP TO SIGN OFF ON AND COMPLY
03:44:55PM WITH SO WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH AND COMPLETE THE AGREEMENT.
03:44:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:45:00PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:45:02PM YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:45:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES THIS INCLUDE THE 2023 AS WELL?
03:45:07PM >> THIS WILL NOT INCLUDE 2022-'23 FISCAL YEAR.
03:45:11PM THE REASON IT DOESN'T IS BECAUSE -- AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, WHAT
03:45:15PM WE HAVE IS A SERVICES AGREEMENT.
03:45:16PM THE SERVICES AGREEMENT MEANS YOU PROVIDE US A SERVICE IN
03:45:19PM RETURN FOR PAVEMENT.
03:45:21PM SO WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO DO THAT AS IT IS CURRENT.
03:45:25PM SO FOR -- FOR THIS YEAR, '23-'24, PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO
03:45:32PM RECEIVE THE PAYMENT.
03:45:33PM 2022-'23, CAN'T DO A SERVICES AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE PAVEMENT
03:45:38PM FOR THAT.
03:45:39PM MIGHT BE OTHER OPTIONS.
03:45:40PM WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THINGS
03:45:43PM ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
03:45:46PM WE CAN ONLY DO IT FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
03:45:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW THAT MONEY WAS SITTING THERE AND PROBABLY
03:45:53PM STILL SITTING THERE.
03:45:54PM WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO IT?
03:45:56PM >> THAT IS A REVENUE AND FINANCE QUESTION ACTUALLY.
03:45:57PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DESIGNATE THOSE FUNDS.
03:46:04PM BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO COULD HAVE THIS YEAR.
03:46:07PM THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO GET THE AGREEMENT DONE IN TIME TO
03:46:10PM BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE REQUIRED TO GET THE PAYMENT.
03:46:14PM >>OCEA WYNN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, LET ME GET BACK TO YOU
03:46:18PM WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY IF NOT USED.
03:46:20PM I WILL GET BACK WITH YOU WITH AN ANSWER.
03:46:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I REMEMBER DIRECTLY, IT WAS $100,000.
03:46:27PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
03:46:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:46:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE CONTRACT WILL BE RUN FROM 10-1-23 TO
03:46:34PM 10-1-24, IS THAT CORRECT?
03:46:37PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
03:46:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION FOR THE FISCAL
03:46:41PM YEAR.
03:46:41PM >> CORRECT.
03:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND THEN START AGAIN 10-1-24 AND 10-1-25.
03:46:47PM >> YES.
03:46:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:46:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE CONCERNS THEY WERE WORRIED THAT
03:46:52PM THEIR CONTRACT HAD REPORTING OR AUDITING REQUIREMENTS IN IT
03:46:59PM WERE NOT PRESENT IN OTHER CONTRACTS OF NONPROFITS.
03:47:03PM CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
03:47:04PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
03:47:05PM WE LOOKED AND INCONSISTENCIES AND SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING
03:47:09PM ON AND WILL HAVE CONSISTENT AGREEMENTS FOR THE '24-'25
03:47:14PM FISCAL YEAR.
03:47:15PM WE HAVE MADE THESE CHANGES BECAUSE, FIRST, THEY ARE REQUIRED
03:47:18PM BY STATE LAW.
03:47:18PM CERTAIN STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS WE HAD TO PUT IN THE
03:47:21PM AGREEMENTS AND HAVE BEEN CYCLING THOSE IN.
03:47:27PM SOME OF THE OLDER MAY NOT HAVE THOSE SAME TYPE OF
03:47:33PM REQUIREMENTS.
03:47:33PM BECAUSE WE RUN INTO THOSE PROBLEMS.
03:47:36PM AGREEMENTS CHANGE OVER TIME DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF SERVICE
03:47:39PM ABOUT PROVIDED AND WE GET SOME OF THE DISTINCTIONS.
03:47:42PM WE ARE LOOKING TO STANDARDIZE ALL AGREEMENTS.
03:47:44PM AT LEAST AGREEMENTS IN THEM IS LAR SPACE.
03:47:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ASK THAT YOU TREAT THEM EQUABLY.
03:47:53PM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME POLITICAL ATTACKS AGAINST THEM THAT ARE
03:47:57PM DEFAMATORY.
03:47:59PM AND SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THAT.
03:48:02PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT POLL SIX IT NOT ENTERING INTO ANY
03:48:06PM KIND OF CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH ANY NONPROFIT.
03:48:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:48:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. ROGERO IS UP.
03:48:14PM HE POPPED UP BRIEFLY.
03:48:15PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.
03:48:16PM OH, THERE HE IS AGAIN.
03:48:19PM I THINK HE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
03:48:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. ROGERO.
03:48:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL AM.
03:48:30PM A QUESTION OF THE NAACP.
03:48:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:48:35PM 2023, THAT FISCAL YEAR, WHAT GOES WITH THAT MONEY.
03:48:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD, THE FUNDS
03:48:42PM BALANCE, INTO THE CURRENT.
03:48:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY MEANS WE HAVE $100,000 TO DO
03:48:47PM SOMETHING WITH?
03:48:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT DOES.
03:48:49PM IT DOES.
03:48:50PM AGAIN IT GOES -- THE PROFESSIONAL PHRASING IS, IT GOES INTO
03:48:54PM THE BIG POT.
03:48:55PM UNSPENT LAST YEAR AND CARRIES FORWARD INTO THE CURRENT YEAR.
03:48:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:48:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:49:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS IN ORDER AND I
03:49:04PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THE INEQUITY WITH THESE
03:49:08PM CONTRACTS AND OBVIOUSLY A PROBLEM WITH FISCAL YEAR 2023.
03:49:13PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PAY THE $ NAACP THE
03:49:19PM $1,000,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR '23.
03:49:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO I HEAR A SECOND.
03:49:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
03:49:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION?
03:49:28PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:49:28PM OPPOSED?
03:49:29PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:49:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM?
03:49:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
03:49:37PM YOU WERE TALKING OF THE CHANGE OF CONTRACTS OR YOUR
03:49:39PM AGREEMENTS.
03:49:40PM SOME OF THEM ARE OLD.
03:49:41PM THEY ARE NOT UPDATED EVERY YEAR?
03:49:46PM >> DEPENDS ON THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT.
03:49:48PM THE AGREEMENT ISN'T JUST FOR ONE YEAR.
03:49:50PM IT DEPENDS ON JUST -- THE NATURE OF THE AGREEMENT, WHAT IS
03:49:55PM NEGOTIATED.
03:49:55PM SEVERAL FACTORS THAT COME IN TO DETERMINE HOW LONG THE TERM
03:49:59PM IS GOING TO BE.
03:49:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON
03:50:03PM STANDARDIZING BY ANY CHANCE?
03:50:05PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM, WE ARE.
03:50:06PM TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD WHERE THERE ARE
03:50:10PM SOME THAT HAVE BEEN DATED AND THE NAACP WAS THE FIRST ONE WE
03:50:20PM STARTED STANDARDIZING SO ALL OF THEM WILL LOOK, FEEL AND
03:50:23PM SOUND ALIKE.
03:50:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANNUAL, ALL OF THEM OR A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER
03:50:29PM OF YEARS BEFORE YOU NEED TO RENEW THAT AGREEMENT.
03:50:33PM >>OCEA WYNN: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT RENEWAL BECAUSE SOME OF THAT
03:50:35PM DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CURRENT TERMS ARE ON THOSE AGREEMENTS.
03:50:42PM I DON'T WANT SPEAK OUT OF TURN OF ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS.
03:50:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WANT TO KNOW GOING FORWARD.
03:50:48PM A FIVE-YEAR, THREE-YEAR, ONE-YEAR -- MAYBE STANDARDIZE THE
03:50:53PM FIVE YEARS AND THREE YEARS AND ONE YEAR.
03:50:56PM EVERYBODY WITH A FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT TO HAVE SIMILAR TERMS.
03:50:59PM ONCE AGAIN EQUITY AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD UPDATING AND
03:51:03PM IMPROVING.
03:51:04PM THANKS.
03:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY WERE.
03:51:06PM ITEMS 59, 96 AND 97, WE ASKED STAFF NOT TO BE HERE.
03:51:11PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MEMO -- MOTION
03:51:14PM FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:51:15PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:51:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:51:18PM NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 98 --
03:51:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, UP FOR ITS PURPOSE --
03:51:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 97 WAS CONTINUED.
03:51:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 16.
03:51:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ON 59 AND 96.
03:51:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUE ITEM 97.
03:51:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALREADY CONTINUED.
03:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:51:39PM OKAY, MR. BRODY, YOU ARE UP.
03:51:42PM REGARDING THE PENDING CEMETERY ISSUES.
03:51:45PM >> YES.
03:51:45PM THANK YOU, AGAIN CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:51:49PM THIS IS AN UPDATE FROM, I BELIEVE, LAST APRIL WHEN WE
03:51:53PM DISCUSSED THE SAME ISSUE INVOLVING THE ITALIAN CLUB AND THE
03:51:59PM POTENTIAL FOR THERE TO BE CEMETERY ON THAT PROPERTY.
03:52:04PM WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ITALIAN CLUB REGARDING WHETHER
03:52:10PM THEY HAVE DONE A GROUND RADAR SCAN.
03:52:13PM WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS PROOF THAT ONE HAS BEEN DONE
03:52:17PM ACTUALLY.
03:52:18PM SO WE ARE -- WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE
03:52:22PM A DETERMINATION.
03:52:23PM IF IT HAS BEEN DONE AND IF IT HAS BEEN DONE, IF THEY CAN
03:52:26PM PROVIDE US THE RESULTS OF IT.
03:52:28PM THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
03:52:30PM I THINK WE ALREADY TALKED ENOUGH TIMES ABOUT THE LEGALITIES
03:52:36PM OF BEING ABLE TO REQUIRE ANY KIND OF FURTHER ACTION BY THE
03:52:40PM ITALIAN CLUB BASED ON THE FACT THEY ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND
03:52:44PM WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL THEIR USE OF THE
03:52:46PM PROPERTY.
03:52:47PM SO I'M HERE REALLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MOVING
03:52:51PM FORWARD OR OTHERWISE.
03:52:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA, I -- I
03:52:56PM MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, I
03:53:00PM SPOKE WITH A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS THE ARCHITECT FOR THE
03:53:05PM MAUSOLEUM THAT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE ITALIAN CLUB CEMETERY
03:53:09PM PROPERTY AND FACING THAT EMPTY THAT GRASSY AREA USED FOR
03:53:17PM PARKING.
03:53:18PM WHAT HE TOLD ME AND HE PASSED AWAY FOUR YEARS AGO WAS THAT
03:53:26PM WHEN THEY BROKE GROUND FOR THAT MAUSOLEUM, THEY DIDN'T FIND
03:53:30PM ANY REMAINS.
03:53:31PM THIS MAN'S OPINION THAT HAS SINCE PASSED AWAY AND ALL THE
03:53:34PM DOCUMENTS THAT HE HAS, HIS WIFE PASSED AWAY AND I DON'T KNOW
03:53:38PM WHERE THAT IS AT.
03:53:38PM MAY HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT, I DON'T KNOW.
03:53:41PM THAT IS THE ONE CONTACT THAT I HAVE THERE.
03:53:44PM A LONG-TIME FAMILY FRIEND.
03:53:46PM I TRUST HIM AND I BELIEVE HIM, BUT THERE IS A QUESTION OF --
03:53:49PM I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS 1200 INDIVIDUALS, PEOPLE OF THIS
03:53:53PM COMMUNITY THAT WERE BURIED THERE.
03:53:55PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE THERE.
03:53:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE BEEN RELOCATED.
03:53:59PM THERE IS A RETENTION POND JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT.
03:54:04PM I KNOW THAT THE ARMWOOD FAMILY, BLANCHE ARMWOOD IS BURIED
03:54:09PM THERE.
03:54:09PM AND THE HIGH SCHOOL, OF COURSE, A LEGENDARY EDUCATE THEIR
03:54:13PM PASSED AWAY 1940, I BELIEVE.
03:54:15PM THERE IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY
03:54:18PM THERE.
03:54:18PM THERE IS A LOT OF ITALIAN HISTORY THERE OF THE FIRST WAVE OF
03:54:23PM ITALIANS, SICILIAN IMMIGRANTS IN YBOR CITY.
03:54:27PM THEY ARE IN THAT CEMETERY.
03:54:29PM BURIAL FROM THE 1800s.
03:54:32PM A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
03:54:33PM AGAIN, I ONLY GOT THE OPINION OF ONE GENTLEMAN.
03:54:35PM YES, HE WAS THE ARCHITECT.
03:54:37PM YES PICTURES OF HIM WITH THE HARD LAT ON BREAKING GROUND TO
03:54:42PM BUILD THAT MAUSOLEUM.
03:54:44PM WHAT HE TOLD ME, THEY DID NOT FIND ANY REMAINS.
03:54:46PM BUT THAT MAUSOLEUM IS JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS AREA.
03:54:50PM AND THAT AREA IN QUESTION HAS BEEN USED FOR PARKING.
03:54:56PM THEY USED TO HAVE EVENTS CALLED PICNIC WITH THE PAST.
03:54:59PM AND IT WOULD RAISE MONEY FOR THE ITALIAN CLUB -- THE ITALIAN
03:55:06PM CLUB CEMETERY AND PEOPLE WOULD BE INVITED TO ENJOY A MEAL.
03:55:12PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY QUESTIONED BUT, AGAIN, IT IS PRIVATELY
03:55:15PM OWNED.
03:55:16PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF A COUNCIL TO
03:55:20PM SAY, PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH US.
03:55:22PM AT THE VERY LEAST, PLEASE DON'T USE THAT AS PARKING.
03:55:27PM THERE IS A HISTORIC MARKER, AND THIS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT FROM
03:55:31PM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND IS HER NAME ANGELA WHO WAS HERE -- SHE
03:55:35PM WAS VERY INTEGRAL IN THAT.
03:55:38PM I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE -- I THINK IT IS OUR DUTY TO -- YOU
03:55:42PM KNOW, PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE MEMORY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS
03:55:45PM THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY BE BURIED THERE.
03:55:48PM MAY HAVE BEEN BURIED THERE.
03:55:49PM SOME WHERE WERE YOU RELOCATED TO.
03:55:52PM THAT IS THE QUESTION.
03:55:53PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:55:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
03:55:58PM AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
03:56:00PM I SAW MISS COPELAND-MILLER AND MISS HENDERSON FROM THE
03:56:04PM CEMETERY SOCIETY.
03:56:05PM AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THEIR WORK.
03:56:08PM MR. BRODY, THANK YOU.
03:56:09PM WE SPOKEN A LOT OF TIMES AND WHAT CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO HAD
03:56:14PM MENTIONED YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF HARD WORK AND WE APPRECIATE
03:56:17PM IT.
03:56:17PM I INVITED THE ITALIAN CLUB REPRESENTATIVE TO COME TO THIS
03:56:23PM MEETING TO GET UPDATES.
03:56:24PM THEY UNFORTUNATELY WERE UNABLE TO MAKE IT TO THIS PARTICULAR
03:56:28PM MEETING UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO PRESENT ON
03:56:33PM MAY 2 MEETING ON FIRE FINDINGS.
03:56:35PM WE LACK THE LEGAL ABILITY TO COMPEL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY DO
03:56:40PM SOMETHING.
03:56:40PM BUT WE CAN WORK AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT HAS MORAL
03:56:45PM DUTIES, RIGHTS WITH THE APPROPRIATE PARTIES.
03:56:47PM I WAS GOING -- WHENEVER THE DISCUSSION ON THIS IS FINISHED,
03:56:50PM I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY MOTION THAT THE ITALIAN CLUB PRESENT
03:56:53PM AT THE MAY 2 MEETING A TIME CERTAIN AFTER LUNCH ON THEIR
03:57:01PM FINDINGS TO GET THE ISSUE OUT TO THE OPEN.
03:57:04PM WE MAY LACK THE POWER TO COMPEL, BUT HAVE A DIALOGUE AND SEE
03:57:09PM WHAT CAN BE DONE TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS OF
03:57:12PM MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOOD.
03:57:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:57:16PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:57:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:57:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDS FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:57:20PM ANY DISCUSSION?
03:57:23PM I THINK THAT IS GREAT.
03:57:23PM WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW -- I UNDERSTAND IT IS PRIVATE, BUT
03:57:27PM THESE ARE PEOPLE'S FAMILIES MEMBER AND VERY IMPORTANT.
03:57:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, TIME CERTAIN AFTER LUNCH.
03:57:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:57:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STILL SECOND.
03:57:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:57:37PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:57:39PM ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU WISH TO
03:57:42PM RECUSE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THE FORM TO FILE, RIGHT?
03:57:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DO.
03:57:46PM I AM RECUSING MYSELF FROM ITEM NUMBER 99 TO OBTAIN TO AVOID
03:57:58PM THE APPEARANCE OF A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHERE MY
03:58:01PM RELATIVE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE.
03:58:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION.
03:58:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
03:58:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:58:11PM YES, MA'AM.
03:58:12PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
03:58:17PM >> I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 99 ON YOUR AGENDA.
03:58:21PM AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S EDIFICATION, URSULA RICH
03:58:27PM RICHARDSON.
03:58:28PM CHIEF ATTORNEY FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND LITIGATION
03:58:32PM PRACTICE GROUP FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS.
03:58:34PM A LAWYER FOR THE LAST 29 YEARS.
03:58:36PM BUT I SPENT THE LAST 19 YEARS OF THE CAREER DEPENDING THE
03:58:39PM CITY AND SOMETIMES CITY EMPLOYEES IN ANY NUMBER OF
03:58:42PM LITIGATION SITUATIONS.
03:58:43PM SO THAT IS JUST A BACKGROUND.
03:58:45PM WHAT WE HAVE IS A FIRST REQUEST BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL, THERE
03:58:50PM WAS A -- THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU PASSED BACK IN
03:58:53PM DECEMBER.
03:58:54PM MR. SHELBY SENT YOU A COPY OF THAT ORDINANCE ON MONDAY TO
03:58:58PM JUST REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION WHAT THAT ORDINANCE DOES.
03:59:01PM AND THIS WOULD BE A FIRST REQUEST.
03:59:04PM NOW I HAVE SPOKE WITH MR. -- WITH MR. SHELBY ABOUT -- THE
03:59:10PM FACT THIS IS FIRST MEANS THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME YOU
03:59:14PM WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, PRESUMABLY OTHER LITIGATION AND
03:59:17PM EMPLOYEES THAT MAY COME TO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT.
03:59:20PM IT IS IMPORTANT AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TODAY TO
03:59:22PM THINK ABOUT ANY FUTURE REQUEST.
03:59:24PM JUST ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS NEW.
03:59:26PM SO YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WANT THIS PROCESS TO LOOK.
03:59:30PM THE MEMORANDUM THAT I DRAFTED FOR YOU AND THAT WAS PUT INTO
03:59:34PM THE SYSTEM IS ESSENTIALLY JUST SOME GUIDANCE.
03:59:37PM I AM ALSO HERE TO PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE FOR YOU TO ANSWER
03:59:42PM ANY QUESTIONS, BUT SOME GUIDANCE HOW THAT PROCESS MAY LOOK.
03:59:46PM AGAIN, SOME OF THE THINGS I PUT IN THE MEMORANDUM OF THINGS
03:59:49PM YOU MIGHT CONSIDER AS FAR AS THE REASONABLENESS OF FEES.
03:59:51PM THOSE ARE JUST THE THINGS THAT I CAN THINK ABOUT THAT YOU
03:59:55PM MAY HAVE TEN OTHER IDEAS OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT
04:00:02PM FACTOR WHAT IS YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE FEES.
04:00:07PM THE LAW APPLICABLE FROM THE REQUEST OF MR. GUDES OR FORMER
04:00:12PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:00:13PM THE COMMON LAW IN THE MEMORANDUM DUMB OF SECTION.
04:00:19PM FLORIDA STATUTE UNIT IN SECTION 3 OF THAT MEMORANDUM AND
04:00:24PM THAT ACTUAL CODE YOUR CODE ACTUALLY INCORPORATES THE
04:00:30PM LANGUAGE IN THE COMMON LAW WHICH I PUT SOME OF THOSE CASES.
04:00:34PM COMMON LAW, LAW THAT IS DECIDED BY COURTS.
04:00:39PM SOME OF THAT IN THE MEMORANDUM AND THE ACTUAL STATUTE,
04:00:42PM SOMETIME AFTER THE COURTS DECIDED LAW.
04:00:44PM THE LEGISLATURE DECIDED IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT SOMETHING
04:00:48PM IN STONE WITH WHAT THE LAW IS AND HOW TO GUIDE THESE
04:00:51PM PARTICULAR DISCUSSIONS OF REIMBURSEMENT AND DEP FENCE OF
04:00:54PM GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
04:00:57PM 111.07 ESSENTIALLY TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW TO THE PUBLIC,
04:01:04PM AUTHORIZES -- AUTHORIZES, SO IT DOESN'T MANDATE.
04:01:07PM AUTHORIZE AS GOVERNMENT.
04:01:09PM ANY GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS AUTHORIZED TO
04:01:11PM PROVIDE A DEFENSE TO AN EMPLOYEE AND, SERVANT, AGENT,
04:01:16PM WHATEVER THE TERM MAY BE.
04:01:17PM THEY ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO THAT.
04:01:19PM AND WHAT IT SAYS IN THIS STATUTE IS THAT YOU ARE AUTHORIZED,
04:01:24PM UP FRONT, TO FRONT THE COST OF A DEFENSE AND RESOURCES
04:01:28PM ASSOCIATED WITH A LAWSUIT IF THIS CRITERIA IS MET.
04:01:31PM IF YOU READ THE STATUTE, AS WELL AS YOUR OWN ORDINANCE.
04:01:35PM THERE IS A "UNLESS."
04:01:37PM BASICALLY YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO X,Y OR Z UNLESS.
04:01:42PM THAT SOMEONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU
04:01:45PM TODAY.
04:01:45PM IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT BASICALLY IF A PERSON -- IF THE
04:01:51PM UNLESS IS MET, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE GOVERNMENT FUNDS
04:01:54PM FOR THESE PARTICULAR PURPOSES.
04:01:56PM YOU CAN EITHER UP FRONT FIND ON THE FRONT END THAT THESE
04:02:00PM PARTICULAR PARAMETERS ARE MET, AND YOU AUTOPSIES GOVERNMENT
04:02:03PM FUNDS FOR THESE PURPOSES OR YOU DENY IT ON THE FRONT END,
04:02:08PM AND IF THE PERSON PREVAILS ON THE BACK END, THEY COME BACK
04:02:11PM AND SEEK REIMBURSEMENT.
04:02:14PM WHAT 111.07 SAYS.
04:02:16PM IN THE QUESTIONS YOU ARE BEING ASKED TODAY AND THINGS I SET
04:02:20PM OUT IN THE MEMORANDUM.
04:02:21PM THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHETHER MR. GUDES WILL BE ENTITLED TO
04:02:25PM REIMBURSEMENT.
04:02:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
04:02:31PM ATTORNEY.
04:02:31PM THEY HAVE THE MEMO IN FRONT OF THEM.
04:02:33PM I BELIEVE THEY HAVE READ THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS
04:02:37PM PRESENTATION -- I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET INTO A DEBATE
04:02:39PM WITH YOU.
04:02:40PM YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT IT.
04:02:41PM AND WE BOTH AGREED WE WOULD NOT DEBATE IT, AND I PREFER WE
04:02:45PM DON'T.
04:02:45PM >> I AM NOT DEBATING.
04:02:46PM I AM JUST DOING MY PRESENTATION.
04:02:48PM IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO PRESENT, I WON'T DO THAT.
04:02:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE MY OWN LEGAL COUNSEL.
04:02:54PM AND MY OWN LEGAL COUNSEL DISAGREES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
04:02:57PM VIEW THAT COMMON LAW APPLIES HERE.
04:02:59PM THE STATE STATUTE AND OUR CODE.
04:03:03PM I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLAIMANT, I WOULD RATHER WE KEEP
04:03:07PM THIS CONVERSATION AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN MOVE
04:03:09PM FORWARD WITH THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION.
04:03:11PM >> WELL, JUST -- JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THE REQUEST WAS MADE
04:03:16PM UNDER 111.307 IF YOU LOOK AT MR. BARAK'S LETTER.
04:03:22PM MAKING REQUEST UNDER 111.07.
04:03:25PM THE STATUTE -- I'M HERE JUST TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
04:03:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE UNDERSTAND.
04:03:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:03:31PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:03:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE -- BASED ON THE -- BASED ON THE
04:03:35PM JUDGE'S RULING THAT MR. GUDES WAS ACTING IN HIS ROLE AS CITY
04:03:41PM COUNCIL -- AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
04:03:45PM AND PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-167 FOR REIMBURSEMENT
04:03:53PM OF ATTORNEY FEES AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH AT LAWSUIT
04:03:57PM THROUGH PARENT HS AND HS VERSUS ORLANDO GUDES AND THE MOTION
04:04:08PM -- I MOTION TO -- TO REIMBURSE MR. GUDES FOR HIS LEGAL FEES.
04:04:16PM YOU MAY -- MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL FINDS THE LITIGATION AND
04:04:19PM COURT CASE NUMBER 22-CA-4051 ROSE OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION
04:04:25PM WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE OFFICIAL DUTIES OF FORMER
04:04:30PM COUNCILMEMBER ORLANDO GUDES FINDS IT SERVING A PUBLIC
04:04:34PM PURPOSE AND REIMBURSEMENT HIS LEGAL EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT.
04:04:39PM EVIDENCE THAT IS FULLY SUBMITTED IN THE JUDGE'S RULINGS THAT
04:04:44PM BACK UP THESE POINTS.
04:04:45PM I AM BASING I'M RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THE JUDGE HAS RULED
04:04:49PM CLENDENIN CLENDENIN SECOND.
04:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:04:52PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS GOING TO SPEAK FIRST THEN
04:04:55PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:04:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE HE HOW DON'T KNOW, I SPENT 32 YEARS
04:04:59PM AS AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER WORK CAN FOR THE FEDERAL
04:05:03PM AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, FAA.
04:05:06PM AND I WILL TELL IF YOU I DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL FAITH AND
04:05:09PM PROTECTION OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT STANDING BEHIND ME EVERY
04:05:12PM TIME I OPENED MY MOUTH TO GIVE CONTROL INSTRUCTIONS I WOULD
04:05:16PM BE PARALYZED IN FEAR TO DO MY JOB.
04:05:18PM AND I THINK IT IS REALLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE
04:05:22PM CITIZENS OF TAMPA THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA STAND BEHIND ITS
04:05:25PM ELECTED OFFICIALS ON ISSUES LIKE THIS ON THE FRONT END, NOT
04:05:30PM THE BACK END BECAUSE YOU PARALYZE YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO
04:05:32PM TAKE ACTION.
04:05:33PM AS OUTRAGEOUS AS SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS, WAY WANT TO KEY IN
04:05:37PM HERE THIS WENT INTO THE JUDICIAL PROCESS OUTSIDE OF CITY
04:05:40PM HANDS AND INTO A JUDGE'S HAND AND FOUND IT DIDN'T RISE TO A
04:05:43PM LEVEL THAT WOULD PROVIDE PAYMENTS TO THE COMPLAINANT ABOUT
04:05:49PM THIS.
04:05:50PM AGAIN, NOBODY IS CONTESTING THAT SOME OF THE ALLEGED
04:05:53PM STATEMENTS.
04:05:53PM THAT IS KEY.
04:05:54PM ALLEGED.
04:05:55PM NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVEN.
04:05:56PM THE ALLEGED STATEMENTS THAT WERE RAID.
04:05:59PM OUTRAGEOUS AND SHOCK VALUE WHEN YOU READ THESE THINGS, BUT
04:06:03PM WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH -- AGAIN, WE ARE DEALING WITHIN A
04:06:06PM ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT IN HIS WORK PERMS DUTIES AND IF -- IF
04:06:12PM NEXT TIME IT COULD BE ANY ONE OF US.
04:06:14PM YOU HAVE SEEN SOME DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN PERSONALITIES AND
04:06:19PM HEATED TENSIONS.
04:06:19PM ANY ONE OF US CAN RISE TO THIS LEVEL.
04:06:21PM AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT -- AND NOW WE CLEAN THAT UP WITH THE
04:06:27PM LAST ORDINANCE WE PASSED.
04:06:28PM THAT THE CITY WILL STAND BEHIND ME AND DEFEND ME IN THESE
04:06:31PM SITUATIONS.
04:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE -- COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:06:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO MISS RICHARDSON.
04:06:38PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE
04:06:41PM LEGAL GUIDANCE.
04:06:42PM A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH MR. SHELBY.
04:06:45PM ANY OTHER GUIDANCE YOU WISH TO GIVE US.
04:06:47PM AS AN ATTORNEY, I WANT TO BE EQUIPPED WITH ALL THE
04:06:52PM INFORMATION.
04:06:52PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A COURTESY TO YOU, MA'AM.
04:06:54PM >> THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY MR. BARACK'S LETTER
04:07:00PM ASKING FOR THE FEES UNDER 111.07.
04:07:03PM AND THE STATUTE IS CLEAR THAT YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO
04:07:06PM REIMBURSE UNLESS -- WHAT I WAS ALSO WAS GOING TO SAY IS I
04:07:11PM THINK THERE IS AN ISSUE WHETHER YOU ARE WEIGHING THINGS OR
04:07:14PM ACTING AS A JUDGE AND JURY.
04:07:16PM THAT IS NOT WHAT THE FUNCTION IS TODAY.
04:07:18PM COULD YOU USE SOME OF THE COMMENT OR LANGUAGE THAT IS
04:07:21PM ACTUALLY IN THE ORDER IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST TO USE
04:07:24PM THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WHAT MISS -- WHAT JUDGE MOE HAD TO DO
04:07:28PM WAS ASSUME THAT THE FACTS ARE TRUE.
04:07:30PM THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILE A LAWSUIT AND SOMEONE
04:07:33PM FILES A MOTION TO DISMISS.
04:07:34PM WHEN THE JUDGE IS LOOKING AT IT, DOESN'T LOOK AT WHETHER OR
04:07:37PM NOT -- WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG.
04:07:39PM DOESN'T LOOK AT WHO IS CREDIBLE OR NOT.
04:07:41PM HAS TO ASSUME WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE THAT THEY ARE TRUE AND
04:07:44PM MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT THOSE THINGS THAT SHE HAS
04:07:47PM ASSUMED TO BE TRUE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET THE TEST TO
04:07:50PM MOVE FORWARD BEYOND THAT MOTION TO DISMISS.
04:07:52PM AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT TO YOU
04:07:56PM WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT SHE SAID.
04:08:00PM PAGE 10 OF HER ORDER, SHE SUMMED UP CERTAIN THINGS THAT WAY.
04:08:03PM PAGE 12 OF THE ORDER, SHE ALSO SUMMED UP ESSENTIALLY THAT
04:08:10PM THE COMMENTS WERE OFFENSIVE, INAPPROPRIATE, ASSUMING THEY
04:08:15PM ARE TRUE WAS OBJECTIONABLE AND OFFENSIVE AND DID NOT MEET
04:08:19PM THE TEST OF INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS.
04:08:24PM BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE "UNLESS" SO
04:08:28PM BASICALLY, USING JUST HER WORDS WITHOUT YOU ALL HAVING TO
04:08:33PM DEBATE IT OR ANYTHING, USING HER WORDS IS THAT ENOUGH TO
04:08:35PM DECIDE IT MEETS THAT TEST OF BAD FAITH, MALICIOUS PURPOSE,
04:08:40PM WANTON AND WILLFUL DISREGARD.
04:08:43PM THAT IS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS.
04:08:46PM YOU AS A GOVERNMENT IS ONLY AUTHORIZED IF IT MEETS THAT HURD
04:08:50PM IF YOU CAN GET PAST THAT HURDLE AND YOU DON'T NEED TO
04:08:53PM DEBATE.
04:08:53PM USE JUDGE MOW'S ORDER IN HER WORDS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR
04:08:57PM NOT IT MEETS THAT TEST.
04:08:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY --
04:09:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND -- WAS IT PERTINENT TO THE REMARKS ABOUT
04:09:06PM TO MAKE --
04:09:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DEPENDS CONTINUE TO WHAT YOU SAY.
04:09:08PM I HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT WHICH I THINK IS WARRANTED IN THIS
04:09:12PM CASE.
04:09:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE SHOULD HEAR HIS LEGAL OPINION.
04:09:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I GUESS MY QUESTION -- I AM GOING TO MAKE
04:09:18PM INQUIRY OF MISS RICHARDSON, THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT CASE
04:09:22PM IN 1909, IS IT STILL VALID LAW?
04:09:25PM >> THE THORNBERG CASE ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS ROOM FOR
04:09:29PM LOOKING AT THINGS UNDER THE COMMON LAW AND ROOM FOR THINGS
04:09:32PM LOOKING UNDER THE STATUTE.
04:09:34PM THE STATUTE APPLIES IN ONE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE AND
04:09:38PM COMMON LAW IN ANOTHER CIRCUMSTANCE; HOWEVER, ALL I AM SAYING
04:09:42PM WE DON'T NEED TO DEBATE THAT.
04:09:44PM LOOK AT WHAT THE JUDGE ALREADY SAID.
04:09:45PM SEE IF IT MEETS THAT THING.
04:09:47PM IF YOU THINK IT MEETS THAT THING, THEN YOU MOVE ON IT TO
04:09:50PM DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE FEES WERE REASONABLE.
04:09:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOESN'T THE THORNBERG CASE SAY D
04:09:58PM THE THORNBERG CASE SAY THAT IT USES THESE WORDS INDEPENDENT
04:10:04PM OF STATUTE.
04:10:05PM >> YES, IT IS.
04:10:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS.
04:10:07PM SO IT IS NOT A HYBRID.
04:10:10PM AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE -- YOU AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION, NO
04:10:13PM CASE THAT SAYS THAT COMMON LAW HAS TO BE A HYBRID WITH THE
04:10:18PM FLORIDA STATUTE.
04:10:19PM >> WHAT IT SAY IS THAT UNDER THAT PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE,
04:10:25PM THE STATUTE DID NOT BASICALLY GET RID OF THE COMMON LAW, IT
04:10:29PM ACTUALLY TAKES INTO SOME CONCEPTS OF THE COMMON LAW.
04:10:34PM THE LEGISLATURE JUST LIKE IN INSTANCE' OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY
04:10:38PM HAVE SPECIFICALLY SET FORTH A PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHETHER
04:10:42PM OR NOT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO USE GOVERNMENT MONEY.
04:10:43PM FOR INSTANCE, WHEN I REPRESENT AN EMPLOYEE, AND THEY ARE
04:10:48PM SUED IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY, THAT EMPLOYEE IS ENTITLED
04:10:51PM TO SOME TYPE OF A DEFENSE UNLESS -- UNLESS -- AND THIS IS A
04:10:54PM NEW TEST.
04:10:56PM THIS 111.07 INCORPORATES THE EXACT SAGE LANGUAGE AS THE
04:11:01PM SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY STATUTE THAT THE EMPLOYER NOT THE
04:11:05PM EMPLOYEE UNLESS.
04:11:06PM ESSENTIALLY -- AND I AM SAYING THAT YOU DO HAVE TO LOOK AT
04:11:10PM THE UNLESS, AND IT IS JUST NOT THE JOB FUNCTION.
04:11:13PM THORNBERG IS ONE OF THE CASES THAT LOOK TO THE FACTUAL
04:11:19PM ALLEGATIONS TO DETERMINE IF OVER AT THEORY APPLIED.
04:11:22PM COMMON LAW OR THE STATUTE.
04:11:24PM YOU CAN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT UNDER BOTH THEORYS.
04:11:27PM YOU HOWEVER MR. BARACK'S LETTER SAID HE IS SEEKING
04:11:33PM REIMBURSEMENT UNDER THE STATUTE UNIT.
04:11:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS COUNCIL BOUND TO MR. BARACK'S LETTER?
04:11:41PM >> THAT IS WHAT HE IS ASKING FOR.
04:11:43PM ELSE NOT A COURT.
04:11:44PM WE GAVE YOU THE TEST UNDER BOTH.
04:11:46PM BUT WHAT I WILL SAY, YOU CAN CONSIDER THE COMMON
04:11:48PM LAW, BUT YOU CAN NOT IGNORE THE STATUTE.
04:11:51PM YOU CAN NOT IGNORE WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN DOWN.
04:11:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:11:56PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:11:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
04:11:58PM I WANTED TO HAVE THE ATTORNEYS JUST TO HAVE THEIR TIME TO
04:12:02PM STAY -- STATE THEIR PEACE, ETC.
04:12:04PM I WANT TO TALK OF MY VOTE AND MY RATIONALE FOR MY VOTE.
04:12:07PM I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE -- ESPECIALLY IN MEDIATION, I SAY
04:12:11PM THINGS IN LIFE THAT ARE BLACK AND WHITE AND THINGS THAT ARE
04:12:14PM GRAY.
04:12:14PM AN ISSUE THAT HAS A GREAT DEAL OF GRAY.
04:12:19PM I WILL BE VOTING FOR IT AND I WILL EXPLAIN WHY.
04:12:23PM AND MISCONCEPTIONS ON THIS CASE THAT I THINK ARE VERY
04:12:26PM IMPORTANT.
04:12:27PM THE REASON -- I WILL GET TO WHY I AM VOTING YES.
04:12:31PM THE DEFAMATION COUNT.
04:12:32PM THERE WAS A DEFAMATION COUNT.
04:12:34PM AND JUDGE MOE SAID IN RELEVANT PART IN HER ORDER THAT THE --
04:12:39PM OH, DEAR LORD, MY HANDWRITING.
04:12:42PM THE -- OH, GOSH -- THE --
04:12:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LAWYER WHO CAN'T READ HIS OWN
04:12:50PM HANDWRITING.
04:12:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: IN OTHER WORDS, THE COMMENTS -- THE CITY OF
04:12:55PM TAMPA CHARTER GIVES OFFICIAL STATEMENT FOR MAKING A
04:12:58PM STATEMENT OF EMPLOYEES PERFORMANCE THAT WAS FOUND DURING THE
04:13:01PM ORDER.
04:13:01PM A NUMBER OF ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE IN THE INTENTIONAL
04:13:05PM INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, AND I BELIEVE DEFAMATION
04:13:08PM IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
04:13:10PM ALL I NEED TO HAVE AS I INTERPRET THIS, ONE CONNECTION TO
04:13:14PM THAT -- TO THAT PURPOSE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DEFINE IT,
04:13:17PM RIGHT, THAT WILL TRIGGER -- GIVEN THE AMOUNT.
04:13:19PM I THINK IT IS GOOD -- GOOD TO GO FORWARD.
04:13:22PM A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO STATE.
04:13:24PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE CONDUCT
04:13:28PM THAT WAS ALLEGED AND IT BEING EGREGIOUS, ETC., ETC., BY
04:13:32PM VOTING FORWARD FOR THIS.
04:13:34PM NOBODY AFFIRMS -- IN MY OPINION, AFFIRMS OR SUPPORTS THAT
04:13:38PM CONDUCT.
04:13:39PM I HAVE MADE STATEMENTS ON IT.
04:13:40PM OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE MADE STATEMENTS.
04:13:44PM NARROWLY TAILORED ESPECIALLY ON THE DEFAMATION COUNT AS FAR
04:13:48PM AS I SEE IT.
04:13:49PM WHAT I SAID BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THE INDIVIDUAL
04:13:51PM WHO BROUGHT THE ORIGINAL ACCUSATIONS FORWARD AND GOD KNOWS
04:13:55PM THERE WAS A POLITICAL FIRESTORM THAT WENT OUT THERE, RIGHT.
04:13:58PM WE SHOULD ALL SALUTE HER FOR HER STANDING UP WHEN OTHER
04:14:01PM PEOPLE TELL HER TO SIT DOWN.
04:14:03PM RIGHT.
04:14:03PM I ALWAYS MAINTAIN THAT.
04:14:05PM AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
04:14:06PM SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TOO WHEN THE CITY
04:14:09PM SETTLED $200,000 CLAIM THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WITHOUT A
04:14:14PM LAWSUIT.
04:14:14PM AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY AS WELL.
04:14:16PM IT TWO HAVE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE COUNCILMAN GUDES RELEASED ON
04:14:20PM THAT.
04:14:21PM THINGS HAPPEN IN CLOSED DOOR OF MEDIATION.
04:14:23PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
04:14:25PM PERFECTION BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TODAY.
04:14:27PM NUMEROUS REASONS AS TO WHY THINGS HAPPEN.
04:14:29PM DEALERSHIP WANT TO STATE.
04:14:30PM AND MISS RICHARDSON AND HARASSMENT LAW, WHEN WE HAVE A
04:14:37PM SEXUAL HARASSMENT CAUSE OF SANCTION.
04:14:40PM IT WAS AGAINST THE EMPLOYER, NOT THE EMPLOYEE.
04:14:42PM THEREFORE -- AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHEN THIS
04:14:45PM EMPLOYEE SETTLED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE TRADITIONAL
04:14:48PM SEXUAL HARASSMENT CAUSES OF ACTION, SHE RELINQUISHED THOSE
04:14:53PM TRADITIONAL CAUSES OF ACTION AND LEFT WITH INTENTIONAL
04:14:57PM INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS WHICH I WILL GET TO IN A
04:15:02PM LITTLE BIT AND DEFAMATION WHICH HAS A HIGH A STANDARD.
04:15:04PM IT WAS NOT AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE BUT THE EMPLOYER.
04:15:07PM I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT SAYS THE CITY SETTLED AND CASE WAS
04:15:12PM DISMISSED.
04:15:13PM TOTALLY DIFFERENT CASES.
04:15:14PM TOTALLY DIFFERENT CASES.
04:15:16PM IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO TALK ABOUT INTENTIONAL INFLICTION
04:15:20PM OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS THAT WAS PURSUED IN THIS LAWSUIT WAS
04:15:24PM DISMISSED.
04:15:24PM THE STANDARD FOR INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS TYPICALLY
04:15:29PM INVOLVES TOUCHING AND SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND -- I DON'T
04:15:33PM WANT TO RECITE CASE LAW, ELEMENT -- IT IS BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS
04:15:38PM AND A VERY, VERY HIGH STANDARD FOR THAT.
04:15:41PM AN INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BEFORE A LAW FIRM, A LAW FIRM THAT
04:15:46PM NO ONE WILL QUESTION THEIR CHARACTER, PROFESSIONALISM, ETC.
04:15:51PM THIS CASE WAS RESOLVED WITHOUT A TRIAL.
04:15:54PM THE $200,000 CASE.
04:15:56PM 98%, 9 THE PERCENT WITHOUT A TRIAL.
04:16:00PM THIS CASE -- I DO A LOT OF PRESUIT CASES THAT ARE RESOLVED
04:16:04PM WITHOUT A LAWSUIT.
04:16:05PM THE JUDGE'S RULINGS AS FAR AS I READ IT INDICATE THAT THE
04:16:09PM CHARTER GAVE FORMER COUNCILMAN GUDES AN OFFICIAL PURPOSE IN
04:16:14PM MAKING THE STATEMENTS.
04:16:15PM THERE ARE ISSUES WITH A LAWSUIT THAT I LONG HAD A LOT OF
04:16:18PM TROUBLE WITH ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
04:16:20PM THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THEM.
04:16:22PM I WILL NOT GET INTO THIS.
04:16:24PM BECAUSE WILL HOPE UP A HORNET'S NEST.
04:16:28PM A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THIS LAWSUIT.
04:16:30PM MY PERSONAL OPINION.
04:16:31PM WITH THE 30 SECONDS I HAVE, AGAIN, I WANTED TO MAKE THESE
04:16:35PM STATEMENTS BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DEFINE WHY WE ARE
04:16:37PM VOTING FOR SOMETHING, BECAUSE ON A LEGAL BASIS, WE HAVE TO
04:16:40PM MAKE SURE THAT WE DEFINE IT TO A I THINK IT CONDUCT THAT
04:16:44PM COULD BE RELATED TO THE PURPOSE REGARDLESS OF HOW EXPERIMENT
04:16:54PM IT.
04:16:54PM I WILL BE VOTING YES FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED STATEMENT.
04:16:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:16:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER
04:17:02PM IN THE '70s AND '80s.
04:17:05PM I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION THAT NAME BECAUSE NO LONGER WITH
04:17:07PM US.
04:17:08PM PASSED AWAY SOME TIME BACK AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
04:17:11PM AND -- AND I THINK THEY -- THEY SAID NO FOR REASON OF WHICH
04:17:16PM YOU SAID ABOUT THE JUDGE AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
04:17:19PM IN THIS CASE, NOTHING AGAINST THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE
04:17:22PM PAST, MR. GUDES, NOT PERSONALLY TO HIM OR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT
04:17:27PM I WILL HOLD TO THE CITY THAT THEY SAID TO THAT COUNCIL
04:17:30PM MEMBER NO ALSO.
04:17:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
04:17:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND THAT ISSUE --
04:17:37PM BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT ISSUE.
04:17:38PM BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY TOOK AN INITIAL CITY COUNCIL VOTE AND
04:17:41PM VOTED IN THEIR SELF-INTEREST.
04:17:42PM IT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT CASE.
04:17:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA
04:17:49PM SAID ALSO.
04:17:50PM IT IS NOT OUR ROLE TODAY TO JUDGE WHETHER -- NO, I AM
04:17:55PM TALKING OF HIM, NOT YOU.
04:17:56PM BUT IT IS NOT OUR POSITION TODAY TO JUDGE WHETHER CERTAIN
04:18:00PM THINGS WERE SAID OR NOT SAID.
04:18:01PM ALL WE ARE DOING IS DECIDING WHETHER -- WHETHER HE WAS
04:18:06PM ACTING IN HIS POSITION AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
04:18:09PM THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY RULED THAT.
04:18:11PM FOLLOWING THE JUDGE'S RULING, I THINK WE ARE OBLIGATED TO
04:18:14PM PAY.
04:18:14PM SO I MADE THE MOTION.
04:18:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH A MOTION.
04:18:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:18:20PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:18:21PM ANY OPPOSED.
04:18:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AYE.
04:18:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
04:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSTAINING FROM VOTING.
04:18:35PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON ABSTAINING FROM VOTE
04:18:38PM AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
04:18:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S CORRECT.
04:18:41PM ALL RIGHT.
04:18:42PM REMEMBER, ITEM 101, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:18:45PM YOU HAVE THAT BIG POWERPOINT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
04:18:48PM ITEM NUMBER 100 -- I AM KIDDING.
04:18:51PM MR. SHELBY.
04:18:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT ME TO START.
04:18:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO STATEMENT THAT I DID PREPARE THE
04:18:58PM MEMO REGARDING THAT.
04:18:59PM AND I TURN -- I TURN TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:19:06PM GO AHEAD.
04:19:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A I HAVE A MOTION THAT I WORKED ON
04:19:09PM WITH MARTY.
04:19:10PM THE -- WHAT WE DID WAS ASK THE CHARTER -- SAYS THERE IS A
04:19:16PM RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
04:19:18PM WHETHER ANY OF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE RESIDENCY
04:19:22PM REQUIREMENTS, IT IS THE CURRENT LAW THAT WAS REAFFIRMED BY
04:19:26PM CITIZENS WHEN THEY AMENDED IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
04:19:28PM SO WITH THE LAW THE WAY IT IS, THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE
04:19:33PM CODIFY IT INTO -- INTO THE LAW OF THE CITY.
04:19:35PM AND MARTY CHECKED.
04:19:36PM IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE.
04:19:38PM SO IN ORDER TO CREATE SOME RULES AROUND HOW THIS IS
04:19:43PM CODIFIED, I WILL JUST THROW OUT THIS MOTION.
04:19:45PM I MOTION TO ASK -- ALL I AM GOING TO DO IS ASK THE CITY
04:19:50PM ATTORNEY TO COME BACK.
04:19:51PM I MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RETURN ON MAY TO COD
04:19:58PM INTENSIFY 6.01 AND 6.03 OF THE CITY CHARTER THAT WILL A,
04:20:05PM PROOF OF RESIDENCY AS HOMESTEAD PROPERTY, VOTER REGISTRATION
04:20:08PM AND/OR AFFIDAVIT TESTIFYING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL LIVES IN THE
04:20:13PM CITY OF TAMPA AT THE CITY OF TAMPA B, REQUIRING
04:20:17PM NOTICE OF ANY ADDRESS CHANGES.
04:20:19PM C, ESTABLISHING A PENALTY FOR MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS
04:20:24PM RESULTING IMMEDIATE TERMINATION AND PROBATION OF COMING FOR
04:20:29PM A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FOLLOWING TERMINATION.
04:20:31PM THE IDEA IS JUST TO DEFINE WHAT IT MEANS, GIVE SOME NOTICE.
04:20:37PM THERE IS NO DEFINITION RIGHT NOW BY THE CHARTER WHAT IT
04:20:42PM MEANS.
04:20:42PM SEEMS REASONABLE IF SOMEBODY HAS A HOMESTEADED PROPERTY AND
04:20:47PM VOTER REGISTRATION THAT IS WHAT THEY LIVE.
04:20:49PM IF THEY HAPPEN TO RENT OR LIVE IN ANOTHER PLACE, GIVEN THAN
04:20:54PM THEIR HOMESTEADING.
04:20:55PM AND IF SOMEBODY LIES -- WE ARE ALL AGAINST SOMEBODY NOT
04:20:59PM TELLING THE TRUTH.
04:21:00PM WE PRESUME EVERYBODY IS TELLING THE TRUTH.
04:21:02PM IF THEY LIE AFTER SIGNING A SWORN AFFIDAVIT THEN THEY WOULD
04:21:06PM BE TERMINATED AUTOMATICALLY.
04:21:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND TO THE MOTION.
04:21:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
04:21:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK.
04:21:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, JUST TO COME BACK.
04:21:18PM YOU HAVE EDITS.
04:21:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK YOU BRING UP VERY GOOD POINTS.
04:21:23PM I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT.
04:21:24PM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND.
04:21:25PM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
04:21:28PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:21:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL VOTE AYE NOW.
04:21:30PM BUT I LIKE TO GET THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST --
04:21:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM KIND OF WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:21:37PM I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT NOW, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT HAS
04:21:41PM BEEN DEALT WITH -- TRIED TO GET A CHARTER CHANGE AND IT
04:21:45PM FAILED AND SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
04:21:46PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS SUCH A WEIRD GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
04:21:51PM YOU ARE IN AND YOU ARE OUT AND YOU ARE IN AND YOU ARE OUT.
04:21:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS SAYING IF YOU APPLY IT WITH RULES.
04:21:59PM YOU CAN MAKE A SECOND AMENDMENT BUT A CHARTER AMENDMENT.
04:22:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR MAY 2.
04:22:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:22:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:22:06PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:22:07PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.
04:22:10PM I KNOW IT IS JUST A CALENDAR BUT YOU WEREN'T HERE THIS
04:22:16PM MORNING.
04:22:16PM MEMORANDUM SUGGESTING THE CHANGES OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS OF
04:22:19PM THE QUARTER COMMENDATION.
04:22:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:22:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO DISCUSSION.
04:22:25PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:22:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:22:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DO BELIEVE THIS REQUIRES COUNCIL TO ADOPT
04:22:32PM THE CALENDAR.
04:22:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO TWO VOTES.
04:22:37PM RECEIVE AND FILE A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:22:41PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:22:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
04:22:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAVOR.
04:22:44PM AYE.
04:22:45PM SECOND, FOR COUNCIL TO ADOPT A TENTATIVE 2024-2025 CITY
04:22:52PM COUNCIL CALENDAR FOR MARCH 7, 2024 TO JULY 24, 2025.
04:22:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE.
04:23:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:23:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:23:05PM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
04:23:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN I ASK, THE MEMO
04:23:12PM RECEIVED AND FILED MAKE A SPECIFIC REQUEST RELATIVE TO THE
04:23:15PM CALENDAR?
04:23:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I BELIEVE IT DID.
04:23:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKE IT A MOTION TO ADDRESS THE CALENDAR.
04:23:21PM JUST BE SPECIFIC AND REFERENCE THE MOTION JUST SO IT IS AN
04:23:25PM ACTION ITEM TO CHANGE THE CALENDAR.
04:23:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR BRAN DONE FOR PUTTING IN MY
04:23:31PM FOLDER MARCH 26, 2024 MEMO RECORD TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BE
04:23:37PM ADOPTED IN TERMS OF THE COMMENDATION REQUEST.
04:23:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:23:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:23:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:23:45PM IT IS TIME FOR NEW BUSINESS.
04:23:46PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:23:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL LIKE TO
04:23:52PM MAKE A MOTION TO COMMENDATION FOR PETE AND LILLIAN HURD A
04:23:57PM STUDENT AT THE ACADEMY OF THE HOLY NAMES FOR MEDAL FOR
04:24:02PM THE USS POST 5 AMERICAN LEGION ORATORICAL CONTEST.
04:24:06PM IT IS THE KEY PRINCIPLES AND VALUES OUTLINED IN THE
04:24:12PM CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND AWARENESS OF THE
04:24:14PM RESPONSIBILITIES INCUMBENT ON EACH CITIZENS TO EXERCISE
04:24:18PM THESE RIGHTS.
04:24:19PM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, LIKE TO COMMENT COMMENDATION TO
04:24:23PM TWO AMERICAN HERITAGE ABBY KOLASKI.
04:24:29PM WON THEIR SCHOLARSHIP AND GOVERNMENT BADGES.
04:24:33PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THESE COMMENDATIONS AT THE BEGINNING
04:24:37PM OF THE APRIL 18, 5:01.
04:24:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:24:44PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:24:46PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:24:47PM OPPOSE?
04:24:48PM THE APRIL 8.
04:24:49PM YOU SAID THE APRIL 18 MEETING?
04:24:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
04:24:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T SEE IT ON THIS CALENDAR.
04:24:56PM MR. SHELBY?
04:24:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: APRIL 18 IS A REGULAR SESSION.
04:25:00PM THE WORKSHOP IS ON THE 25th.
04:25:03PM AN EVENING SESSION.
04:25:04PM AND EARLIER THAN THAT, THE SECOND --
04:25:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 25 WILL BE CANCELLED, CORRECT, MR.
04:25:10PM SHELBY?
04:25:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THAT IS RIGHT.
04:25:13PM OPINION.
04:25:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL 11.
04:25:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT APRIL 11?
04:25:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PUT HERE THE 18th.
04:25:19PM I WILL MAKE IT APRIL 11.
04:25:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:25:23PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:25:24PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:25:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE.
04:25:28PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF REQUESTS THE LAST WEEK OR SO.
04:25:30PM WHAT IS HAPPENING CODE ENFORCEMENT IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB
04:25:35PM DOING WHAT THEY CAN.
04:25:35PM BUT CITING AT LEAST ONE OF THESE FOR A REMODELING JOB ON A
04:25:41PM HOUSE SHE BOUGHT THAT SHE NEVER TOUCHED.
04:25:43PM THE SELLER IS THE ONE THAT DID THE REMODELLING AND I WANT TO
04:25:47PM SEE IF WE CAN ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAW SOMETHING TO
04:25:50PM THE FACT THAT WE OUGHT TO GO AFTER THE SELLER, NOT THE
04:25:54PM BUYER.
04:25:54PM THE BUYER DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AND BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
04:25:58PM AND NOW GOING THROUGH -- THROUGH THE SYSTEM WORK, NOTHING IS
04:26:01PM RECORDED AND WHEN YOU HAVE -- WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT
04:26:04PM GOES ON IN CINDY STEWART'S RECORD IN THE COUNTY.
04:26:09PM WHEN THE ATTORNEYS DO A STUDY WHETHER TO MAKE IT TO CLOSING
04:26:12PM THAT THAT COMES UP IS NOT COMING UP.
04:26:14PM AND WHEN THEY FIND THAT, THEY ARE GOING AFTER THE BUYER.
04:26:17PM THE BUYER DIDN'T DO IT.
04:26:20PM THE SELLER DID.
04:26:21PM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
04:26:24PM SO I AM JUST PRESSING IT TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF
04:26:30PM THEY CAN COME UP WITH AN ANSWER.
04:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ASKING FOR A FORMAL REPORT?
04:26:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:26:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE IT?
04:26:37PM GIVE IT A MONTH.
04:26:39PM LET ME LOOK INTO MAY.
04:26:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO CLEAR IT OUT.
04:26:43PM I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO GET CHARGED WITH SOMETHING THEY HAVE
04:26:46PM NEVER DONE.
04:26:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 16.
04:26:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS GREAT.
04:26:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:26:52PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:26:54PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:26:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT.
04:26:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:26:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I WAS SPEAKING WITH CARL BRODY AND TAKING
04:27:02PM UP A LOT OF HIS TIME AND HE DOES A GREAT JOB.
04:27:06PM CODE OF CONDUCT FOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:27:08PM BEFORE I MANGE THAT.
04:27:09PM AND I AM SPEAKING ABOUT THAT PUBLICLY AND PROMISED I WOULD
04:27:13PM MAKE IT TODAY.
04:27:14PM SPEAK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS ABOUT MAKING THE MOTION BECAUSE I
04:27:17PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE RECOGNIZE SILT KNOWLEDGE
04:27:20PM FOR A PROPER MOTION AND I SAY THAT PUBLICLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY
04:27:22PM I SPOKE TO.
04:27:23PM SHOULD BE MADE NEXT WEEK ONCE I SPEAK TO THE ATTORNEYS ON
04:27:26PM THAT.
04:27:27PM THE ONLY MOTION I HAVE HERE IS FOR A COMMENDATION FOR -- I
04:27:32PM HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY ULTIMATE MEDICAL ACADEMY TO DO A
04:27:36PM COMMENDATION ON JUNE 20 BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
04:27:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:27:40PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:27:42PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:27:43PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:27:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:27:47PM YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS ONE INVOLVES COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
04:27:50PM DISTRICT.
04:27:51PM SO I WILL WAIT UNTIL SHE IS HERE FOR THAT.
04:27:53PM THANK YOU.
04:27:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:27:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, I WILL MAKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE
04:28:01PM PLANNING STAFF FOR FINAL LANGUAGE FOR THE JANUARY 2024 LAND
04:28:05PM DEVELOPMENT CODE CYCLE AT THE APRIL 5, 2024 REGULAR COUNCIL
04:28:10PM SESSION.
04:28:10PM MANISCALCO MA.
04:28:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
04:28:16PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:28:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APRIL 5.
04:28:20PM THE DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY IN CASE YOU ARE WANTING TO BUY ME
04:28:26PM PRESENTS.
04:28:26PM THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER TYPO -- APRIL 4, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM,
04:28:31PM WE WILL FIX IT.
04:28:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
04:28:33PM CAN YOU PUSH IT FURTHER?
04:28:39PM >> GENERAL RULE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
04:28:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. HEBERLINE, IF YOU WERE LISTENING, CAN
04:28:47PM YOU REPORT TO COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
04:28:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU, THEN.
04:28:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE.
04:28:53PM EXCITED TO DO THE BUDGET ANALYST POSITIONS.
04:28:56PM WE WILL DO THE INTERVIEWS AND BRING THEM ON BOARD.
04:28:59PM BUDGET SEASON WILL BE HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
04:29:01PM PAUSE -- PAUSE FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT.
04:29:05PM CAN YOU FIX THIS DATE ON THE MOTION, PLEASE.
04:29:08PM THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT DATE.
04:29:09PM WE DON'T KNOW -- WHAT DO THEY WANT?
04:29:18PM >> THERE IS AN E-MAIL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
04:29:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
04:29:21PM BUDGET SEASON IS HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW AND WE INSINUATED MANY
04:29:26PM TIMES IN THIS MEETING TODAY, IT BEHOOVES US.
04:29:30PM LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST BITE AT THE APPLE BUDGET AND I
04:29:33PM LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THAT.
04:29:34PM AS I SAID EARLIER IN THE DAY, HOW WE GOT THE BUDGET, IT WAS
04:29:38PM ALREADY MIXED AND PUT IN THE PAN AND THE OVEN WAS TURNED ON
04:29:43PM AND TO DO STUFF WITH IT.
04:29:44PM I THINK WE SHOULD START BANTERING ABOUT WHAT OUR BUDGET
04:29:49PM PRIORITIES ARE AS I THREW OUT TODAY.
04:29:51PM I WANT THE PAVING AND REPAVING BUDGET TO INCREASE
04:29:56PM SIGNIFICANTLY TO $35 MILLION.
04:29:58PM I WANT TO SEE THOSE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS IN THE
04:30:01PM CITY OF TAMPA TO REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
04:30:03PM CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:30:05PM I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US NOW TO START PUNTING THAT HAT ON
04:30:08PM AND START ANYTHING IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOWARD THIS BUDGET
04:30:12PM SO WE ARE NOT CAUGHT LIKE WE WERE LAST YEAR KIND OF LIKE --
04:30:16PM ON OUR HEELS.
04:30:17PM AND HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT THIS YEAR FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:30:20PM ORDINANCE MANISCALCO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:30:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR PLANNING STAFF
04:30:25PM TO PROVIDE A REPORT WITH FINAL LANGUAGE -- WE CAN'T DO APRIL
04:30:28PM 4.
04:30:28PM IT IS TOO EARLY.
04:30:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TOO LATE.
04:30:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOT TO BE APRIL 18.
04:30:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD THEY DO A WALK-ON.
04:30:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR WHAT?
04:30:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
04:30:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLANNING COMMISSION IS SHOULD GIVE YOU
04:30:45PM ENOUGH TIME TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
04:30:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY WOULD PLAN IT --
04:30:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT CYCLE.
04:30:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU KNOW SOMETHING.
04:30:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AN OBJECTION PUT IT ON THE 4th.
04:30:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE AN OBJECTION AND THE CLERK HAS AN
04:30:59PM OBJECTION.
04:31:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 18.
04:31:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FOR FINAL LANGUAGE FOR THE 2024
04:31:06PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT CYCLE AT THE 18th OF APRIL.
04:31:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
04:31:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
04:31:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:31:18PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:31:19PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:31:20PM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, COUNCILMAN VIERA, UMP
04:31:24PM WAITING FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:31:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT.
04:31:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WEARING MY CRA HAT IS WORKING ON THE
04:31:32PM RESTORATION OF THIS WORLD WAR I AFRICAN-AMERICAN SOLDIERS
04:31:37PM MEMORIAL PARK.
04:31:37PM IT CAME UP DURING DISCUSSIONS OF HAVING A HISTORICAL MARKER
04:31:42PM THERE TO KIND OF MAKE THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF WHAT IS THERE,
04:31:45PM AND I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS IN YOUR
04:31:48PM DISTRICT WITHOUT YOU BEING THERE.
04:31:49PM JUST MAKING SURE.
04:31:51PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
04:31:51PM I DO -- I MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT FOR A HISTORICAL MARKER
04:31:56PM OVER AT MEMORIAL CEMETERY FOR THE -- FOR DISH GUESS THE CITY
04:32:00PM STAFF TO BEGIN WORKING WITH THE HISTORICAL MARKER COMMITTEE
04:32:03PM AND WILL HAVE THAT COME BACK -- LET'S HAVE THAT COME BACK
04:32:08PM BECAUSE THAT TAKES A WHILE.
04:32:09PM JULY -- THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY.
04:32:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE LOOKING AT JULY 18.
04:32:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
04:32:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:32:18PM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:32:20PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:32:21PM OPPOSED?
04:32:23PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:32:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:32:24PM THIS CAME FROM MISS FEELEY.
04:32:26PM I MOVE TO HAVE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FEELEY TO APPEAR THE
04:32:29PM FIRST WEEK OF EACH MONTH MAY 2, 2024, TO PROVIDE A BRIEF
04:32:35PM UPDATE ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REFORM PROJECT.
04:32:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE SHE LOVES US, SHE REALLY LOVES US.
04:32:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
04:32:45PM HENDERSON.
04:32:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:32:45PM OPPOSED.
04:32:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL BE GOING FAST.
04:32:48PM THAT WAS HER IDEA.
04:32:49PM AND THEN -- I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF MR. SHELBY IF YOU ARE
04:32:56PM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IF NOT, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
04:32:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK?
04:33:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER MIND.
04:33:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
04:33:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COMING UP NEXT WEEK.
04:33:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
04:33:07PM WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
04:33:08PM THIS IS THE -- YEAH, THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE
04:33:12PM IMPROVEMENT OF THE EFFICIENCY OF MEETINGS.
04:33:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE POSTED BY THE WAY ON BASE.
04:33:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL BE ON BASE, BUT AT THIS POINT, THERE
04:33:24PM IS A LOT OF -- THIS IS BASICALLY A -- A GROUPING OF THE
04:33:28PM IDEAS THAT EVERY COUNCILMEMBER HAD.
04:33:30PM SO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND -- WELL, MORE THAN THAT AND THE
04:33:34PM CLERK AND OTHERS, BUT SOME COUNTY IDEAS ARE CONTRADICTORY TO
04:33:40PM ONE ANOTHER.
04:33:41PM I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT IF WE ALL WENT THROUGH -- WELL,
04:33:45PM TOMORROW IS A LITTLE SOON, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE
04:33:47PM ANYTHING.
04:33:47PM BUT IF WE CAN GET THAT -- IF YOU COULD GET YOUR CHANGES OR
04:33:52PM YOUR -- I DON'T LIKE THIS IDEA, I LIKE THIS IDEA.
04:33:56PM LET'S ADD THIS.
04:33:57PM IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, ANY CROSS OFF, ANYTHING, GET TO
04:34:04PM MR. SHELBY BY MONDAY AND WE WILL HAVE MUCH QUICKER --
04:34:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FORGIVE ME, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.
04:34:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER MIND.
04:34:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
04:34:14PM I WANT TO READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE MEMO BECAUSE I
04:34:18PM THINK IT EXPLAINS TO YOU.
04:34:19PM THE FOLLOWING ARE SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE
04:34:21PM EFFICIENCY OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
04:34:24PM THIS IS A SET OF VARIOUS PROPOSALS TO BE CONSIDERED
04:34:28PM INDIVIDUALLY.
04:34:29PM SOME MIGHT CONTRADICT OTHERS BECAUSE MANY ARE BASED ON THE
04:34:32PM SUGGESTION HAS IN HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
04:34:34PM MY RECOMMENDATION AND RECOMMENDED THAT EACH -- THAT AS EACH
04:34:38PM ARE CONSIDERED, A MOTION IS MADE BY A COUNCILMEMBER WHO
04:34:41PM SUPPORTS INCORPORATING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
04:34:43PM I HAVE TRIED FOR A LONG TIME TO BUILD CONSENSUS AND
04:34:49PM UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF THIS COUNCIL.
04:34:51PM IT IS NOT DO BIBLE.
04:34:52PM I WILL POINT TO YOU JUST UNDER, LET'S SAY, FOR INSTANCE,
04:34:58PM JUST A POINT OF ILLUSTRATION, UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT -- BY THE
04:35:02PM WAY, I JUST -- I WILL SAY THIS NEXT WEEK.
04:35:04PM I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU WHO TOOK THE TIME TO MEET WITH
04:35:07PM ME AND YOUR STAFFS AND THE CITY STAFF AND THE LEGAL DEP AND
04:35:11PM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, PARTICULARLY THE CHAIR FOR HIS
04:35:16PM LEADERSHIP, LISA EDWARDS SAT DOWN WITH ME AND SULING LUCAS
04:35:23PM FOR TWO HOURS TO BEGIN THIS.
04:35:25PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:35:26PM LET ME READ FIVE AND SIX.
04:35:30PM KEEP PHONE IN FOR GENERAL COMMENT.
04:35:33PM NUMBER SIX, REMOVE PHONE IN FOR COMMENT.
04:35:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AGREE.
04:35:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I STRONG LEAP AGREE.
04:35:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS
04:35:42PM THAT HAVE BEEN MADE -- BROUGHT TO THIS LIST.
04:35:44PM THIS IS GOING TO BE JUST AS YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURES.
04:35:48PM THEY ARE YOUR RULES, BUT THEY ARE -- THEY ARE PUT INTO PLACE
04:35:51PM BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL.
04:35:55PM SO IF -- A VOTE OF 4 PUTS IT ON A RESOLUTION.
04:36:01PM THAT RESOLUTION HAS TO BE RED AND PASSED TWICE FOR IT TO
04:36:05PM TAKE EFFECT AND THEN THE RULES OF COUNCIL.
04:36:08PM SO IN THAT CONTEXT, WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY, YOU ARE NOT
04:36:11PM GOING TO GET UNANIMOUS CONSENT FROM CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE
04:36:15PM THERE ARE CONTRADICTORY THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF MY
04:36:18PM CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL, ARE WITH A THE LEGISLATIVE
04:36:22PM AIDEs, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY STAFF.
04:36:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY THIS IS A FIVE-PAGE
04:36:30PM DOCUMENT WITH BULLET POINT FOR EACH ITEM.
04:36:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 70 --
04:36:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 70 ITEMS AND LETTING YOU KNOW WE HAVE 13
04:36:39PM STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
04:36:41PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO TAKE.
04:36:43PM I WANTED TO ASK EVERYONE TO REALLY BE PREPARED.
04:36:46PM THAT'S IT.
04:36:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE OTHER THING I DO ASK -- AND WE
04:36:50PM CONTINUED IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
04:36:52PM I ASKED FOR A FULL COUNCIL TO BE PRESENT, BECAUSE THIS WILL
04:36:55PM REQUIRE A VOTE OF FOUR AND ULTIMATELY WHEN COMES TO BACK AS
04:36:59PM A RESOLUTION ALL COMPILED HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE OR NOT CHOOSE,
04:37:02PM WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IN YOUR RULES IS A RESOLUTION FOR TWO
04:37:07PM -- TWO READINGS.
04:37:08PM SO DEPENDING ON HOW SOON YOU ACT, IT COULD TAKE EFFECT AS
04:37:13PM SOON AS THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY OTHERWISE IT WILL TAKE
04:37:17PM PLACE AFTER THAT.
04:37:17PM >> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION.
04:37:19PM AND MAYBE I AM JUST BEING OPTIMISTIC.
04:37:21PM THE FOLKS THAT REALLY -- BECAUSE YOU TAKE -- YOU TAKE THIS
04:37:25PM -- THE OPINION PEOPLE -- OF THE SEVEN POLITICIANS OUT HERE
04:37:28PM OUT OF THE EQUATION AND GET TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
04:37:32PM A LEGAL QUESTION.
04:37:32PM THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE
04:37:36PM AIDS TO WORK TOGETHER TO PAR DOWN A PROPOSAL.
04:37:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK IT IS DOABLE.
04:37:44PM THESE ARE NOT THEIR RULES, THEY ARE YOUR RULES.
04:37:47PM WORST PART -- OR THE BEST PART IS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
04:37:51PM SELF-POLICE YOUR RULES.
04:37:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS THE THING.
04:37:54PM I DON'T WRITE THE RULES THAT MAKE ME GO 65 MILES PER HOUR,
04:37:57PM BUT I STILL -- WELL, MAYBE SOMETIMES I COMPLY.
04:38:00PM YOU KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW.
04:38:02PM I GUESS I AM JUST -- IF SOMEBODY TELLS ME THOSE ARE THE
04:38:06PM RULES, I WILL SAY THOSE ARE THE RULES.
04:38:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL TELL THAT YOU THEY CAN COME BACK AND
04:38:11PM YOU STILL MIGHT NOT GET FOUR VOTES FOR IT.
04:38:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DISREGARD, NEVER MIND.
04:38:18PM CAN I TAKE THE PRIVILEGE BACK FROM THAT MOTION -- I SEE
04:38:23PM STEPHEN BENSON WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOTION.
04:38:26PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: STEPHEN BENSON, PLANNING COMMISSION.
04:38:31PM TEXT AMENDMENT ROUTED FOR THE 4th.
04:38:33PM MY UNDERSTANDING WE WILL BE ABLE TO REQUEST IT AS AN
04:38:36PM ADDENDUM.
04:38:37PM I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
04:38:39PM MEETS ONCE A MONTH, WE WON'T JUST GET BUMPED TO THE NEXT
04:38:43PM MEETING -- WON'T GET BUMPED TO ITS WEEK BUT THE MONTH IF IT
04:38:47PM MISSES THE 4th.
04:38:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY ASK WHY IT HAVEN'T BEEN -- LET ME ASK
04:38:53PM THIS, WILL IT BE UPLOADED FOR ON BASE?
04:38:56PM >> I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE
04:38:58PM INTENT.
04:38:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES ANYONE UNDER STAND IF THE COUNCIL WILL
04:39:04PM HAVE A WALK-ON?
04:39:06PM >> THIS IS SUELING LUCAS, DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
04:39:10PM THE DRAFT AGENDA HAS GONE OUT BECAUSE THE CITY IS CLOSED
04:39:14PM TOMORROW.
04:39:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S RIGHT.
04:39:16PM TOMORROW IS A HOLIDAY.
04:39:18PM THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT MATTER AND FOR THE SAKE OF
04:39:22PM TRANSPARENCY AND NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC AND I -- BY THE WAY
04:39:27PM SOMETHING IN THERE AS A MOTION OF MATTER OF FACT.
04:39:32PM AND NEXT WEEK AGENDA.
04:39:33PM GIVE ME.
04:39:38PM MARTIN SHELBY TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION.
04:39:41PM COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TO REQUIRE AGENDA ITEMS TO BE
04:39:45PM AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUED FOR A WEEK IF THE FULL PRESENTATION
04:39:48PM AND BACK-UP MATERIALS IN THE ONLINE PUBLIC DATABASE 5 P.M.
04:39:53PM FRIDAY BEFORE THE SCHEDULED MEET.
04:39:55PM A MOTION BY COUNCIL.
04:39:57PM AND THIS IS ACTUALLY -- THERE IS A -- THERE IS A REFERENCE
04:40:00PM TO THAT IN THIS DOCUMENT.
04:40:01PM SO THE QUESTION IS, A WALK-ON.
04:40:04PM AND THIS, BY THE WAY, IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE
04:40:07PM SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE
04:40:11PM VOTING ON IN THE COURSE OF THE DUTIES.
04:40:13PM SO I WILL JUST SAY, COUNCIL, I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT
04:40:15PM SOMEBODY MADE AN EXECUTIVE DECISION TO WALK ON SOMETHING OF
04:40:20PM THIS MAGNITUDE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
04:40:22PM WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE AT THE LAST MINUTE.
04:40:25PM THE DAY BEFORE A LEGAL HOLIDAY.
04:40:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 18th -- UNLESS COMPELLING, THE 18th IS
04:40:34PM WHAT IT WILL BE.
04:40:35PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
04:40:37PM THESE ARE THE ACTUAL TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT RUN WITH WHAT WE
04:40:40PM PRESENTED TO YOU ALREADY IN FEBRUARY.
04:40:41PM SO IT IS NOT NEW CONTENT.
04:40:43PM BUT JUST THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE.
04:40:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND.
04:40:46PM THE 18th.
04:40:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 18th IT IS.
04:40:49PM JUST TO CLARIFY.
04:40:50PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION
04:40:52PM TO PRESENT ON APRIL 18 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
04:40:55PM A SECOND?
04:40:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT.
04:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE HE IS HERE.
04:41:00PM SECOND FOR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:41:02PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:41:03PM I WANT IT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
04:41:05PM ANYBODY OPPOSED?
04:41:08PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:41:09PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:41:09PM IF NOT, GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:41:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THIS MORNING, ANDY SCAGLIONE TALKED OF
04:41:16PM THIS LOOPHOLE THAT YOU PROBABLY HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS
04:41:19PM ABOUT OVER THE YEARS THAT PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE APPLYING FOR
04:41:22PM PERMITS WILL CITE A PARKING LEASE.
04:41:26PM BUT THEN WE ARE TOLD THAT MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS ARE USING
04:41:30PM THE SAME PLACE FOR A LEASE BECAUSE THEY CAN EASILY CANCEL
04:41:34PM THEM.
04:41:34PM I WILL HAVE THIS MOTION TO CAN ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
04:41:38PM REPORT -- MOTION TO ASK CITY ATTORNEY TO REPORT ON JUNE 20 TO
04:41:43PM MODIFY SECTION 27-283.6 TO REQUIRE THAT TERMS OF ANY PARKING
04:41:50PM LEASES TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SHALL BE NO
04:41:54PM LESS THAN FIVE YEARS IN DURATION AND CONTAIN NO EARLY
04:41:58PM TERMINATION CLAUSE.
04:41:59PM IN ADDITION, THE OBLIGATION MUST BE ASSIGNED TO ANY
04:42:03PM SUCCESSFUL.
04:42:03PM SUCH AGREEMENT WILL BE ANNEXED TO THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND
04:42:07PM A LIST OF ALL APPROVED LEASES SHALL BE MAINTAINED.
04:42:11PM FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THIS SECTION WILL BE A VIOLATION OF
04:42:14PM THIS CHAPTER.
04:42:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
04:42:18PM CARLSON.
04:42:18PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:42:23PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON YOU SAID?
04:42:24PM YES, MR. SHELBY?
04:42:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
04:42:27PM QUESTION.
04:42:27PM THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WOULD NORMALLY GO THROUGH
04:42:30PM LAND DEVELOPMENT.
04:42:33PM IT IS A CODE CHANGE.
04:42:34PM I AM WONDERING YOUR ASKING THE LEGAL DON'T DO IT.
04:42:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHO DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK?
04:42:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT
04:42:42PM TO HAVE -- DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A REPORT PRIOR FOR THEM TO
04:42:45PM COME BACK WITH LANGUAGE.
04:42:46PM THEY WILL COME BACK AND WILL HAVE TO MAKE PROBABLY THE NEXT
04:42:50PM CYCLE.
04:42:50PM SO NOTING.
04:42:52PM >> THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
04:42:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE?
04:42:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
04:43:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHANGE CITY ATTORNEY TO LAND DEVELOPMENT.
04:43:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU PICKED A DATE FOR IT TO COME BACK.
04:43:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUNE 20.
04:43:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM JUNE 20.
04:43:10PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:43:11PM AND SECOND.
04:43:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK ONE THING.
04:43:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT -- THAT
04:43:21PM YOU THINK YOU ARE GETTING PAID LESS THAN THE REST OF US?
04:43:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH.
04:43:25PM HUMAN RESOURCES CALLED DARLENE.
04:43:28PM THE AMOUNT THAT DENNIS ROGERO ON THE SCREEN WAS HIGH.
04:43:33PM IT WAS NOT CORRECT.
04:43:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE --
04:43:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALL MAKE THE SAME THING, EXCEPT FOR
04:43:40PM ONE PERSON.
04:43:41PM THAT PERSON MAKES LESS.
04:43:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY MAKES LESS.
04:43:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE CHOOSES TO.
04:43:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 200 OR $300 A MONTH.
04:43:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PART OF THE OFFICE ACCOUNT CERTAIN
04:44:03PM EXPENSES.
04:44:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS NOT YOU, BUT HISTORICAL.
04:44:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE WAYS.
04:44:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE COUNCIL WANTS TO INQUIRE OFFLINE WHAT
04:44:14PM OR WHY THAT IS.
04:44:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:44:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, SIR.
04:44:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
04:44:22PM ANYTHING, MR. SHELBY?
04:44:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, I DO.
04:44:25PM IT WAS BROUGHT TO ANY ATTENTION THE EVENING OF APRIL 25 HAS
04:44:28PM NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES CASES AND NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
04:44:33PM AMENDMENTS, THEREFORE IT IS BEING REQUESTED THAT THE CITY
04:44:36PM COUNCIL REMOVE THE EVENING MEETING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 25
04:44:39PM FROM YOUR CALENDAR.
04:44:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, DARN.
04:44:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:44:44PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:44:47PM A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:44:49PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:44:51PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:44:53PM FAVOR.
04:44:54PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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