TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
MONDAY, APRIL 8, 2024
9:00 SPECIAL CALL
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09:00:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO
09:08:50AM CALL THIS SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO ORDER.
09:08:53AM AT THIS TIME, I WILL HAVE ROLL CALL.
09:08:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:08:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
09:09:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
09:09:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:09:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:09:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:09:08AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:09:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:09:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS HERE.
09:09:14AM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:09:16AM THREE MINUTES.
09:09:17AM NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
09:09:19AM ANYONE IN THE ROOM THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
09:09:21AM MA'AM?
09:09:24AM >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
09:09:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS THE DAY OF THE TOTAL ECLIPSE.
09:09:29AM ONLY HAPPENS ONCE EVERY 20 YEARS.
09:09:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:33AM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:09:36AM CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH SEVERAL
09:09:41AM CANDIDATE AND MAKE A SELECTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
09:09:44AM ANALYST POSITION.
09:09:45AM I WILL GIVE YOU AN OUTLINE HERE.
09:09:46AM THE TOP SCORING CANDIDATES WERE INVITED TO IT THE SPECIAL
09:09:53AM CALLED MEETING APRIL 24, 2024 AT CITY HALL.
09:09:56AM ONE OF THE CANDIDATES STATED HE WOULD NOT BE ATTENDING SINCE
09:10:00AM HE ACCEPTED A POSITION ELSEWHERE.
09:10:02AM ANOTHER CANDIDATE, MISS MELISSA JONES SENT AN E-MAIL THAT
09:10:06AM SHE WOULD NOT BE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING THIS MORNING WHICH
09:10:08AM LEAVES -- SHE HAS NOT REGISTERED VIRTUALLY.
09:10:11AM WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES TODAY.
09:10:12AM WE HAVE REGINA SIEWERT AND HAGAR KOPESKY.
09:10:20AM AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, CANDIDATES WILL BE INTERVIEWED ONE AT
09:10:23AM A TIME.
09:10:24AM EACH CANDIDATE SEASON SCHEDULED TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR 45
09:10:27AM MINUTES WITH A THREE-MINUTE OPENING COMMENT.
09:10:31AM AND UP TO 40 MINUTES OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS BY CITY
09:10:35AM COUNCIL.
09:10:35AM ALL INCLUDED IN THIS 45-MINUTE BLOCK.
09:10:37AM THEN WE WILL HAVE A TWO-MINUTE CLOSING STATEMENT.
09:10:40AM COUNCIL WILL HAVE TIME FOR DISCUSSION OF THE APPLICATION --
09:10:45AM OF THE APPLICANTS.
09:10:46AM AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, COUNCIL WILL VOTE BY WRITTEN
09:10:50AM BALLOT THAT WE HAVE HERE AND RANK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES.
09:10:52AM CANDIDATES WILL BE AWARDED POINTS BASED ON THE RANKING GIVEN
09:10:56AM BY COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:10:57AM THOSE RANKED FIRST AND SECOND -- WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE
09:11:00AM HERE.
09:11:01AM WHOEVER GETS THE MOST POINTS WILL BE SELECTED.
09:11:07AM THE VOTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL WILL, RECITED PUBLICLY.
09:11:10AM MINIMUM OF FOUR VOTES AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY CHARTER WILL
09:11:14AM BE ANNOUNCED AS CITY COUNCIL'S SELECTION.
09:11:17AM NO CANDIDATE ACCEPT AT THE AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO
09:11:22AM IN THIS SITUATION, THE PERSON WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT WILL BE
09:11:24AM REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT ON THE SECOND -- OKAY, SO WHOEVER
09:11:27AM GETS THE MOST POINTS ON THE FIRST ROUND WILL BE SELECTED.
09:11:31AM SO AT THIS TIME --
09:11:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR.
09:11:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:11:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC THAT MAY HAVE NO IDEA
09:11:38AM WHAT WE ARE DOING.
09:11:39AM CAN WE EXPLAIN HOW THE CHARTER DEFINES THIS OR SOMETHING
09:11:42AM LIKE THAT.
09:11:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND
09:11:46AM DO THAT.
09:11:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
09:11:56AM COUNCIL, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:11:58AM I AM GOING TO READ FROM THE CHARTER.
09:12:00AM SECTION 2.04, WHICH REGARDS THE STAFF OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:12:07AM THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ITS STAFF THE FOLLOWING WHO SHALL BE
09:12:12AM RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE CHAIR OF THE
09:12:15AM COUNCIL.
09:12:15AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, A, THE BUDGET ANALYST.
09:12:20AM CITY COUNCIL IS AUTHORIZED TO EMPLOY A BUDGET ANALYST 2 OR
09:12:25AM INDIVIDUAL WITH SIMILAR QUALIFICATIONS PURSUANT TO THE
09:12:27AM CITY'S POSITION, CLASSIFICATION CODE, TO ASSIST IN THE
09:12:31AM BUDGETARY MATTERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:12:33AM THE CITY COUNCIL, BY ORDINANCE, SHALL DEFINE THE
09:12:37AM QUALIFICATION, PAY AND SAID RESPONSIBILITY IN ACCORDANCE
09:12:40AM WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S POSITION CLASSIFICATION CODE.
09:12:45AM THANK YOU.
09:12:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:12:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR
09:12:52AM COUNCILMEMBERS, ONCE THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND WE MADE THE
09:12:55AM RECOMMENDATION FOR SELECTION, HR FROM THE CITY WILL BE
09:12:59AM PRESENT AND WILL PRESENT THE JOB OFFER TO THE APPLICANT.
09:13:05AM IF WE CHOOSE AN APPLICANT, HR WILL PRESENT THE JOB OFFER AND
09:13:09AM WAIT FOR THE ACCEPTANCE.
09:13:10AM JUST AS YOU KNOW THE FINAL PART OF THE PROCESS.
09:13:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT PUBLICLY.
09:13:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT PUBLICLY BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW.
09:13:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I CALL UP THE FIRST
09:13:25AM CANDIDATE FOR A THREE-MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT.
09:13:27AM THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS REGINA?
09:13:30AM CORRECT?
09:13:30AM COME ON UP.
09:13:32AM STATE YOUR NAME AND THREE MINUTES FOR AN OPENING COMMENT.
09:13:34AM THE MICROPHONE IS ALREADY ACTIVE.
09:13:36AM IT IS INVISIBLE.
09:13:37AM YOU ARE GOOD TO GO AND WE WILL START THE TIMER FOR YOU.
09:13:41AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
09:13:42AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:13:50AM I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE TO BE BEFORE YOU FOR THE BUDGET
09:13:57AM ANALYST FOLKS.
09:13:58AM I AM CERTAIN I CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR
09:14:02AM CITY'S BUDGET.
09:14:02AM I HAVE MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPING AND MANAGING
09:14:08AM FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY PROJECTS.
09:14:09AM IN THAT ROLE, I CONDUCTED FINANCIAL ANALYST, INTERPRETED AND
09:14:15AM IMPLEMENTED STATE RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING THE USE OF
09:14:20AM DIFFERENT FUNDS.
09:14:21AM PREPARED REVENUE EXPENSE PROJECTIONS.
09:14:25AM DESIGNED FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR MANAGEMENT AND STAFF.
09:14:28AM PARTICIPATED IN BUDGET COUNCIL MEETINGS.
09:14:32AM MONITORED BUDGETS AND ACTUAL EXPENSES.
09:14:36AM I TRAINED DEPARTMENT STAFF ON NEW BUDGET SOFT WARE.
09:14:40AM PRESENT SUGGESTIONS OF BUDGET REDUCTIONS.
09:14:44AM MAINTAINED COMMUNICATION WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS, BOARD OF
09:14:49AM GOVERNORS AND THE STATE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM BUDGET DIRECTORS.
09:14:53AM SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENTS TO BETTER USE TECHNOLOGY TO IMPROVE
09:14:58AM EFFICIENCY AND BUDGET PREPARATION.
09:15:00AM MAINTAIN ACCURATE -- ACCURACY IN THE REPORTING OF BUDGET AND
09:15:07AM INTRAFUND TRANSFERS.
09:15:09AM AND PREPARE AD HOC REPORTS AS NEEDED SUCH AS FRENCH BENEFIT
09:15:15AM POOL OR ESTABLISHING OVERHEAD RATES.
09:15:17AM IN REVIEWING YOUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, I WAS
09:15:24AM IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
09:15:28AM THE EASE OF USE AND TRANSPARENCY OF INFORMATION.
09:15:31AM AS A BUDGET ANALYST, I WILL BE COMMITTED TO COLLABORATING
09:15:36AM WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO STAY ABREAST OF BEST PRACTICES,
09:15:42AM EMERGENT TECHNOLOGIES, AND REGULATOR TORY CHARGES TO ENHANCE
09:15:47AM EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BUDGETARY PROCESS AND
09:15:52AM REPORTING.
09:15:52AM I UNDERSTAND THE MANY CHALLENGES THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:15:56AM FACES WITH HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, ETC.
09:15:58AM AT THE PRESENTATION OF OUR CITY HAS INCREASED FINANCIALLY.
09:16:04AM I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
09:16:08AM AND I THINK THE CITY TRANSFORMATION INTO A BEAUTIFUL PLACE
09:16:12AM TO LIVE, WORK, AND ENJOY LIFE.
09:16:15AM AND I AM DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE PROSPERITY AND WELL BEING OF
09:16:20AM OUR CITY.
09:16:21AM AS YOUR BUDGET ANALYST, I WILL UTILIZE MY ANALYTICAL
09:16:25AM EXPERTISE, STRATEGIC INSIGHTS AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO
09:16:31AM RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAKING SOUND
09:16:34AM FINANCIAL DECISIONS THAT PROMOTE A LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY
09:16:38AM AND GROWTH OF TAMPA THANKS.
09:16:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:43AM THAT CONCLUDES YOUR OPENING STATEMENT AT THIS TIME.
09:16:45AM WE WILL GO INTO -- IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE 40 MINUTES OF
09:16:50AM QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS BY CITY COUNCIL.
09:16:53AM BECAUSE THERE IS THE THREE-MINUTE OPENING AND TWO-MINUTE
09:16:57AM CLOSING AND THE 45-MINUTE GUIDELINE.
09:16:59AM WE WILL GO INTO QUESTIONS BY COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:17:02AM I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
09:17:05AM AND THEY MAY BE RELEVANT.
09:17:07AM THEY MAY NOT.
09:17:08AM THIS IS HOW I TRY TO PERCEIVE THINGS WHEN OFFERING THIS
09:17:12AM POSITION.
09:17:13AM I SEE YOU LIVE NEARBY.
09:17:14AM YOU LIVE NEAR HERE, DON'T YOU?
09:17:18AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES.
09:17:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM NOT GOING TO READ YOUR ADDRESS.
09:17:21AM THAT'S GOOD.
09:17:23AM THE REASON I ASK THAT, LOOKING AT YOUR RESUME SAYS "SHIFT."
09:17:28AM THERE ISN'T REAL LOOK 'SET SHIFT HERE, YOU KNOW, SET HOURS.
09:17:32AM LAST YEAR, WE HAD A CONTENTIOUS BUDGET.
09:17:35AM WE HAD A LENGTHIER DISCUSSION THAN USUAL FOR CERTAIN
09:17:39AM REASONS.
09:17:39AM AND WE WILL HAVE MEETINGS HERE -- SPECIFICALLY DURING BUDGET
09:17:44AM SEASON -- NOT TALKING LAND USE AND WHATNOT, WHERE WE WILL
09:17:48AM GET OUT OF HERE AT MIDNIGHT, 2:00 IN THE MORNING OR AT 8
09:17:53AM P.M. DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH HAVING TO STAY LATE IF
09:17:58AM NEEDED BECAUSE PRESIDENT CONVERSATION CAN GET COMPLICATED,
09:18:03AM YOU KNOW, REGARDING -- YOU KNOW, BUDGET ISSUES.
09:18:06AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NO, I DO NOT.
09:18:08AM I AM FAMILIAR WITH IT.
09:18:09AM I HAVE WORKED FOR THE STATE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM FOR MANY
09:18:12AM YEARS.
09:18:12AM AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THE LEGISLATURE WAS IN SESSION.
09:18:16AM AND THEN WE HAD TO LOOK AT A CERTAIN ISSUES, ANALYSIS FOR US
09:18:25AM TO GO TO LEGISLATURE AND HAVE OUR SAY ON THE DETERMINATIONS
09:18:32AM OF THE ALLOCATIONS.
09:18:33AM I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
09:18:34AM YES, I KNOW ABOUT LAST YEAR'S ISSUE, TOO, WITH REGARD TO THE
09:18:40AM INCREASE IN THE MILL TAX AND THE VOTING ON IT.
09:18:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:18:45AM I SEE HERE AS PART OF YOUR RESUME, YOU SERVED AS A BUDGET
09:18:49AM ANALYST AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, THAT'S CORRECT?
09:18:53AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I DID.
09:18:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LENGTHY RESUME BUT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE
09:18:59AM IN A POSITION SIMILAR TO THIS.
09:19:00AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I DO.
09:19:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
09:19:07AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NOT REALLY.
09:19:08AM I HAVE FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM.
09:19:09AM I DON'T POST.
09:19:10AM I LIKE TO LOOK AT THINGS.
09:19:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALSO HAVE A CITIZENS BUDGET BOARD
09:19:17AM WITH EACH COUNCILMEMBERS APPOINTS AN INDIVIDUAL TO SERVE ON
09:19:20AM THAT BOARD.
09:19:21AM THEY HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS ALONG WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL
09:19:24AM ATTORNEY.
09:19:24AM WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO -- AND THING IS A REQUIREMENT --
09:19:28AM SITTING IN ON THOSE MEETINGS AND MEETING WITH THAT CITIZENS
09:19:31AM BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD?
09:19:34AM >> YES, I THINK I WILL ENJOY THAT.
09:19:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR NOW.
09:19:39AM DO -- I WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
09:19:41AM WE CAN GO DOWN THE ROW OR IF ANYBODY HAS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
09:19:45AM THAT THEY WANT TO ASK.
09:19:46AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:19:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
09:19:50AM THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
09:19:52AM SO IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM IS QUITE
09:19:56AM POLITICAL AS WELL.
09:19:58AM THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE YOU ARE BASICALLY
09:20:00AM SERVING SEVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT
09:20:04AM PERSONALITIES.
09:20:04AM HAVE YOU -- CAN YOU SHARE MAYBE WITH YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE
09:20:09AM HOW YOU HAVE DEALT WITH THE POLITICS OF DEALING IN
09:20:13AM GOVERNMENT WITH POLITICAL ISSUES AND HOW THAT HAS -- HOW
09:20:16AM THAT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE OR HOW YOU OVERCOME THAT TYPE OF A
09:20:21AM CHALLENGE?
09:20:21AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES, I HAVE.
09:20:22AM EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNIVERSITY, WE HAD A BUDGET COUNCIL.
09:20:25AM THE BUDGET COUNCIL WAS WITH THE PRESIDENT, THE PROVOST,
09:20:29AM FACULTY MEMBERS, STUDENTS, AND SOME OTHER ADMINISTRATORS.
09:20:34AM SO IN ONE OF THE LAST BUDGET SESSIONS, IT WAS VERY
09:20:38AM CONTENTIOUS ABOUT HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING OUR BUDGET.
09:20:43AM YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY DO -- THERE IS A BASE BUDGET AND YOU DO
09:20:48AM INCREMENTS.
09:20:49AM BUT THERE WAS ONE MEMBER IN THE GROUP THAT WANTED TO DO
09:20:54AM ZERO-BASED BUDGETING WHICH IS VERY HARD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
09:20:58AM MOST OF THE EXPENSES ARE FIXED, AND THAT IS FOR THE SALARIES
09:21:04AM LIKE I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME OF YOUR AREAS LIKE POLICE, YOU
09:21:07AM KNOW.
09:21:07AM IT IS LIKE PRESENTING EXPENSES SALARIES.
09:21:20AM HOW TO GO TO A ZERO-BASED BUDGET.
09:21:22AM I WENT BACK AND I CREATED SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS TO BREAK
09:21:26AM DOWN HOW THE BUDGET WAS FOR THE DIFFERENT AREAS.
09:21:30AM TO COME UP WITH OTHER IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT SORT OF
09:21:38AM LIKE A ZERO-BASED BUDGET WITH ONLY LOOKING AT CONTRACTS
09:21:42AM BASICALLY.
09:21:42AM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME FIXED EXPENSES THAT YOU CAN CONTROL
09:21:46AM LIKE TRAVEL AND SUPPLIES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, BUT THEN
09:21:51AM THERE IS -- THERE ARE ALL THOSE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAD WITH
09:21:56AM DIFFERENT PLACES -- DIFFERENT AREAS, SOME OF WHICH COULD BE
09:22:02AM -- WE COULD RENEW OR JUST DECIDE NOT TO CONTINUE.
09:22:06AM SO WE TOOK -- THAT TOOK A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT IS A LOT
09:22:11AM HARDER.
09:22:12AM RUN A REPORT AND GET ALL THE CONTRACTS AND ALL THE
09:22:16AM INFORMATION THAT YOU -- YOU NEED.
09:22:18AM SO WE NEEDED TO HAVE, LIKE, MANY MEETINGS WITH THE DIFFERENT
09:22:22AM BE AREAS TO GO OVER THOSE -- HOW TO GO ABOUT BRINGING IN
09:22:30AM THOSE CONTRACTS AND DESIGNING HOW TO GO FORWARD -- YOU KNOW,
09:22:33AM WHAT WAS IMPORTANT AND WHAT WAS NOT.
09:22:35AM SO THAT TOOK QUITE A WHILE, BUT I THINK WITH THE -- A LITTLE
09:22:41AM BIT OF FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSIONS
09:22:45AM WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, WE CAME TO A FOOD CONCLUSION.
09:22:49AM AND WE HAD A BUDGET ON TIME, WHICH IS ALWAYS HARD SOMETIMES
09:22:54AM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD -- LIKE YOU, WE HAVE DEADLINES.
09:22:57AM SO I KNOW THAT YOUR BUDGET GOES FROM OCTOBER TO SEPTEMBER.
09:23:01AM WE USED TO DO JUNE THROUGH -- JULY THROUGH JUNE.
09:23:07AM SO PRETTY MUCH SIMILAR IN THAT SENSE.
09:23:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
09:23:10AM FOLLOW-UP PLEASE.
09:23:12AM THIS POSITION IS -- I WANT TO SAY THAT -- IT IS VERY
09:23:17AM INDEPENDENT-DIRECTED, SELF-DIRECTED KIND OF WORKFORCE, BUT
09:23:22AM IN ANOTHER WAY SEVEN MICROMANAGERS.
09:23:25AM HAVING TO BALANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO ELEMENTS.
09:23:28AM HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU WITH EXPECTATIONS OF THE POSITION
09:23:33AM BEING VERY HIGH AS FAR AS PRODUCTIVITY AND BEING ABLE TO
09:23:36AM REPORT TO THE SEVEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND BEING
09:23:40AM SELF-DIRECTED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT THROUGHOUT THE
09:23:42AM BUDGET CYCLE FROM BEGINNING, MIDDLE AND END?
09:23:46AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: WELL, I AM ALWAYS TAKE PRIDE IN THE WORK I DO.
09:23:49AM SO I ALWAYS WANTED TO, OF COURSE, FEEL CONFIDENT AND PROVIDE
09:23:54AM THE BEST INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE SO I DON'T HAVE A
09:24:06AM PROBLEM DEALING WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT
09:24:08AM PERSONALITIES.
09:24:08AM I DID -- IN MY POSITION LAST POSITION I WAS A DIRECTOR,
09:24:18AM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
09:24:20AM DIFFERENT WAYS OF LEARNING.
09:24:21AM TO I LEARNED TO BE PATIENT. ALSO, TO UNDERSTAND -- WE ALL
09:24:31AM THINK DIFFERENTLY.
09:24:32AM WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS EVEN THOUGH IT IS EASY FOR ME TO
09:24:36AM SEE IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER.
09:24:38AM FOR SOMEBODY ELSE COULD BE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION.
09:24:40AM SO I AM AWARE OF ALL THAT.
09:24:42AM I HAVE DONE TRAINING, TOO, WHEN IT COMES TO NEW SOFT WARE OR
09:24:48AM NEW BUDGET -- NEW BUDGETING THINGS.
09:24:51AM AND SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH IT -- WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF
09:24:56AM PERMITS AND LEARNING STYLES.
09:24:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:25:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:25:06AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE US.
09:25:08AM I CAN ONLY SAY THAT I HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
09:25:11AM I HOPE THAT DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL AND NOT OF THE
09:25:13AM COUNCILMEMBER INDIVIDUALLY.
09:25:16AM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DISCUSS AMONG THE SEVEN
09:25:20AM OF US.
09:25:20AM YOU CAN'T GO IN SEVEN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ON THE SAME
09:25:23AM SUBJECT MATTER YOU OR NO ONE ELSE.
09:25:25AM I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL COMES UP WITH A PLAN OF THE
09:25:30AM GIVE AND TAKE OF A PERSON WE ARE ABOUT TO HIRE WHETHER IT IS
09:25:33AM HER OR THE OTHER GENTLEMAN COMING UP NEXT THAT THIS COUNCIL
09:25:36AM MAKES A MOTION, AND FOLLOW THAT MOTION AND NOT INDIVIDUAL
09:25:40AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:25:41AM OVER THAN THAT, YOU WOULD BE RUNNING AROUND CHASING
09:25:44AM SOMETHING THAT LIKELY COULD NOT HAPPEN.
09:25:46AM I HOPE IT IS DIRECTLY WITH COUNCIL AND NOT COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:25:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:25:51AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: THANK YOU.
09:25:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE GIVEN
09:25:56AM ABOUT BUDGET -- ABOUT THE LARGER BUDGET AS A WHOLE, BUT
09:26:00AM EVERY TWO WEEKS, WE HAVE A REGULAR COUNCIL SESSION.
09:26:03AM AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS, OF COURSE, APPROVE FINANCIAL
09:26:08AM THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
09:26:09AM SO ANOTHER THING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY -- WELL, I WILL WORK
09:26:14AM WITH YOU ON IS QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE BUDGET,
09:26:18AM ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DID WE APPROVE LAST WEEK?
09:26:25AM YEAH, SO -- HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE AT ALL TO LOOK AT ANY OUR
09:26:29AM WEEKLY AGENDAS OR BUDGETS?
09:26:33AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NO, I DID NOT.
09:26:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL -- SO YOU ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING
09:26:40AM THROUGH FROM A MACRO LEVEL, BUT YOU ALSO -- TALK TO US ABOUT
09:26:44AM THE ABILITY -- ABOUT HOW YOU WORK ON A MICROLEVEL.
09:26:47AM SO SAY THE ONE THING I CAN THINK OF FROM LAST WEEK IS THAT
09:26:52AM SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT WANTED TO BUY SOME SIDE LOADER
09:26:58AM GARBAGE TRUCKS.
09:26:59AM SAY I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
09:27:03AM JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SMALLER WAYS THAT YOU -- AND
09:27:08AM EXPERIENCE YOU HAD TALKING OF A SMALLER IS ISSUE AND NOT
09:27:11AM JUST THE BUDGET -- THE WHOLE BUDGET, BUT MAYBE JUST A SMALL
09:27:15AM PART OF IT.
09:27:16AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES, IN MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE GONE FROM
09:27:19AM BUDGET ANALYST TO DIRECTOR OF BUDGETS.
09:27:21AM SO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A DEPARTMENT, AND HAVE TO
09:27:25AM DEFEND THE BUDGET AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL.
09:27:28AM AND THEN TO WORK FOR THE BUDGET OFFICE, WHERE YOU PUT ALL
09:27:32AM THE BUDGETS TOGETHER.
09:27:33AM AND, AGAIN, YOU -- YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PIECES AND THEN
09:27:37AM TRYING TO TIE THE BUDGETS.
09:27:39AM THEN I WAS A BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR THE WHOLE UNIVERSITY.
09:27:42AM IN THAT POSITION, IT WAS, AGAIN, FIND THE BUDGETS TO GET
09:27:51AM EVERYTHING AND ALSO LOOKING AT DETAILS LIKE -- WE USUALLY
09:27:54AM HAVE TO COME OUT WITH A PLAN EVERY YEAR TO CUT 10% OF THE
09:27:59AM BUDGET EVEN THOUGH WE ARE ALLOCATED ALL THE MONEY, BUT THEN
09:28:03AM IN CASE, THERE IS A 10% BUDGET CUT.
09:28:06AM AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT DETAILS -- LIKE, THE
09:28:11AM SPECIFICS IN THE BUDGET OF WHERE IT WILL BE CUT.
09:28:13AM AND IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE ON OTHER -- OR -- OR MAYBE WANT TO
09:28:20AM HAVE AN IMPACT BUT MOST OF THE TIME, IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT
09:28:23AM IN OTHER AREAS OF THE INSTITUTION.
09:28:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS YOU WELL KNOW, BUDGET IS PRETTY MUCH A
09:28:35AM LIVING DOCUMENT.
09:28:36AM BUT IT WILL BE CHANGED BECAUSE THAT IS THE NATURE OF LIFE.
09:28:40AM THERE MIGHT BE A STORM.
09:28:42AM THERE MIGHT BE -- THAT WE HAVE TO USE RESERVES.
09:28:44AM THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ISSUES.
09:28:47AM LIKE THIS YEAR WE PUT MONEY TOWARD A PARK.
09:28:49AM SO I HAVE GUESS TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
09:28:56AM SHIFT WITH A BUDGET.
09:28:59AM MAYBE A BIGGER ISSUE LIKE THAT.
09:29:02AM LIKE -- LIKE A STORM THAT REQUIRED US TO -- REQUIRED YOU TO
09:29:07AM JUST HAVE TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND.
09:29:09AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES.
09:29:11AM I SEE THAT -- THE BUDGET, OF COURSE, IS FOUR PARTS, THE
09:29:15AM REVENUES, EXPENDITURES AND SPECIAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN LIKE A
09:29:22AM STORM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND YOUR RESERVE.
09:29:24AM SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE BUDGET FOR THOSE YOU EXPECTED EXPENSES
09:29:33AM AND SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO DO THAT AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT
09:29:39AM PROJECT IS IN THE WORKS AND YOU SHIFT RESOURCES TO OTHER
09:29:42AM THINGS.
09:29:42AM AND, YOU KNOW, I AM USED TO DEALING WITH THAT TYPE OF
09:29:50AM ENVIRONMENT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT YOU PLAN FOR
09:29:56AM SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE TO BE ACTIVE AND AGILE FOR OTHER
09:30:00AM OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT COME ALONG.
09:30:01AM AND SO YOU HAVE TO -- EVEN THOUGH YOU PLAN -- SPEND ALL THE
09:30:05AM TIME DOING THIS, YOU HAVE TO SHIFT AND TO SOMETHING ELSE FOR
09:30:10AM A HIGHER PRIORITY.
09:30:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
09:30:16AM I AM NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH A UNIVERSITY SYSTEM ALTHOUGH MY
09:30:21AM MOTHER WAS A UNIVERSITY ACCOUNTANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:30:24AM HERE WE HAVE MONEY THAT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS.
09:30:27AM DO YOU -- DID YOU HAVE THAT IN THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM?
09:30:32AM SO YOU ARE AWARE OF, OKAY, I CAN ONLY USE THIS -- I CAN ONLY
09:30:35AM USE THIS MONEY FOR X AND Y, AND NOT FOR Z.
09:30:43AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES, WE HAVE FUNDS -- YOU MIGHT CALL IT
09:30:46AM SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
09:30:47AM I DO KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR WATER AND WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND THEY
09:30:51AM ARE KIND OF SELF-SUPPORTING ENTITIES.
09:30:53AM SO THINK MAY HAVE OTHER RULES FOR YOUR OTHER MONIES, YOUR
09:30:57AM GENERAL -- GENERAL REVENUE DOLLARS.
09:31:00AM IT IS -- EACH ONE OF THEM WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT REGULATION
09:31:05AM OF WHAT YOU CAN SPEND AND WHAT YOU CANNOT SPEND WITH THAT
09:31:08AM MONEY.
09:31:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:31:09AM I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, IT IS SIMILAR IN THE UNIVERSITY
09:31:13AM SYSTEM?
09:31:14AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES.
09:31:15AM I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT GOING TO BE CROSSING FUNDS BECAUSE IT
09:31:19AM IS NOT ALLOWABLE.
09:31:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
09:31:21AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:31:22AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: THANK YOU.
09:31:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:31:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND FOR PUBLICLY
09:31:29AM COMING BEFORE US.
09:31:30AM I KNOW THAT IS A TOUGH THING TO DO FOR FOLKS TO BRING
09:31:34AM YOURSELF OUT LIKE THIS.
09:31:36AM YOU HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCE OBVIOUSLY.
09:31:37AM I WANT TO SAY, I AGREE WITH CHARLIE MIRANDA.
09:31:41AM AND THAT THERE ARE SEVEN OF US AND WE EACH HAVE DIFFERENT
09:31:47AM PERSPECTIVES, BUT IF YOU COME WORK HERE AND YOU SEE THAT
09:31:49AM THERE IS A CONSTRICT BETWEEN WHAT TWO OF US OR MORE ARE
09:31:54AM SAYING, THE BEST VICE WOULD BE BRING IT BEFORE US IN A
09:32:00AM PUBLIC HEARING.
09:32:00AM IF THE MAJORITY VOTES FOR IT YOU HAVE DIRECTION.
09:32:02AM ULTIMATELY YOU ARE GOING WITH WHAT THE BOARD WANTS.
09:32:05AM WE WILL ALL HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS AND WE WILL PROBABLY
09:32:08AM ASK YOU FOR INDIVIDUAL RESEARCH, BUT IF YOU SEE A POLICY
09:32:12AM CONFLICT IN SOME WAY, ULTIMATELY IT IS THE BOARD.
09:32:14AM THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS, WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE.
09:32:18AM WE HAVE FOUR DISTRICTS: NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
09:32:22AM AND THEN WE HAVE THREE FOLKS THAT ARE CITYWIDE.
09:32:25AM THE IDEA IS THAT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR
09:32:28AM PEOPLE REPRESENTING THEM.
09:32:30AM WE ARE ON THE GROUND TALKING TO FOLKS EVERY DAY AND DEALING
09:32:34AM WITH CONSTITUENTS.
09:32:36AM THINGS THEY SAY, NUMBER ONE, DON'T WANT TAXES RAISED.
09:32:39AM NUMBER TWO, THEY WANT MORE AND BETTER SERVICES.
09:32:43AM THE WAY TO DO THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY EFFICIENT IN THE WAY
09:32:47AM WE USE OUR MONEY.
09:32:47AM ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED THIS POSITION IS TO MAKE
09:32:50AM SURE WE ARE REALLY WATCHING THE NUMBERS.
09:32:52AM DOESN'T EVEN IN ANYBODY DID ANYTHING WRONG.
09:32:55AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WATCH THE NUMBERS.
09:32:57AM EVERYBODY LEFT AND RIGHT WANT TO SAVE MONEY.
09:32:59AM MAYBE THE DIFFERENCE IS, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE MONEY
09:33:05AM AFTERWARDS.
09:33:05AM THE OTHER THING THAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS MAYBE IS THAT
09:33:09AM IMAGINE THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM THAT YOU ARE REPORTING TO THE
09:33:12AM BOARD AND NOT TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY.
09:33:14AM SO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY TECHNICALLY WILL HAVE
09:33:18AM ETC. OWN ACCOUNTING, FINANCE DECISION.
09:33:20AM WE HAVE A CFO AT THE CITY AND A WHOLE DEPARTMENT OF
09:33:24AM ACCOUNTANTS AND FINANCE PEOPLE THAT REPORT TO THE MAYOR, BUT
09:33:28AM THIS POSITION IS TO SUPPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:33:31AM SAME PARALLEL WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY AND A WHOLE GROUP OF
09:33:35AM ATTORNEYS IN THE CITY.
09:33:36AM THEY ALL ULTIMATELY REPORT TO THE MAYOR ALTHOUGH BY CHARTER
09:33:41AM WE ARE ONE OF THEIR CLIENTS ALSO.
09:33:43AM WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY WHO REPORTS TO US.
09:33:46AM ONE QUESTION IS, IF -- IF YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE PARALLEL.
09:33:51AM IF YOU ARE REPRESENTING A BOARD OF A UNIVERSITY AND YOU FIND
09:33:57AM SOMETHING THAT -- THAT -- THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE
09:34:00AM UNIVERSITY IS DOING OR THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING AND YOU
09:34:02AM FEEL THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, HAVE YOU
09:34:06AM EVER BEEN IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT WHERE YOU FELT
09:34:09AM CONFLICTED?
09:34:09AM OR PRESENT IT IN A WAY THAT YOU THINK IS FACTUAL?
09:34:16AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NO, I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE -- IT HAS TO BE
09:34:22AM CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE AND TRANSPARENT.
09:34:26AM SO I WILL GO -- I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING
09:34:30AM YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, BUT --
09:34:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, IT IS A TOUGH QUESTION.
09:34:35AM I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
09:34:36AM APPEAR YEAR AND A HALF AGO IN THE BUDGET, COUNCIL MEMBER
09:34:41AM VIERA PUSHED FOR A NEW FIRE STATION FOR $15 MILLION.
09:34:44AM AND WE AS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT.
09:34:46AM IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION A YEAR LATER, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE
09:34:50AM ADMINISTRATION DID NOT BUILD A FIRE STATION.
09:34:52AM THEY DIDN'T START ON A FIRE STATION.
09:34:55AM AND THEY SPENT THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
09:34:57AM PRESUMABLY THEY GOT US TO MOVE THE $15 MILLION, BUT WE DON'T
09:35:01AM -- ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE ASKED YOU IF YOU
09:35:04AM WERE HERE, HOW DID THEY MOVE THE 15 WITHOUT US SEEING IT.
09:35:09AM NOBODY CAME TO OUR KNOWLEDGE AND SAY THIS $15 MILLION WAS
09:35:13AM FOR A FIRE STATION AND NOW IT IS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
09:35:16AM THEY MAY HAVE MOVED IT IN SMALLER PIECE.
09:35:18AM THAT IS THE KIND OF QUESTION.
09:35:19AM THE POINT IS, IF WE ASK YOU THAT QUESTION, THE
09:35:22AM ADMINISTRATION MAY NOT BE HAPPY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT
09:35:25AM INFORMATION, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW HOW
09:35:27AM THE MONEY WAS MOVED SO IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
09:35:31AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I WOULD QUESTION YOUR ACCOUNTING
09:35:34AM CONTROLS.
09:35:34AM BUT CERTAIN THRESHOLDS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO NOT MOVE
09:35:38AM THE MONEY FOR.
09:35:49AM THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL
09:35:51AM FLORIDA WHERE THEY DID A WHOLE BUILDING BEFORE THEY FOUND
09:35:53AM OUT WHERE THE MONEY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING TO FINANCIAL
09:36:06AM BUDGETS TO PREVENT ANY SPENDING OF MONEY OF ANY BUILDING OF
09:36:09AM SUCH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THESE ARE THE LONG-TERM
09:36:19AM CAPITAL INVESTMENTS WE ARE GOING TO MAKE.
09:36:20AM WHEN WE ASK OF THE THINGS IN IT.
09:36:22AM STAFF WILL SAY, DON'T WORRY, THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE
09:36:27AM COUNCIL AND YOU ARE NOT APPROVING IT YET, BUT IT COMES TO US
09:36:30AM A FINAL CONTRACT THAT HAS A RFP AND NEGOTIATED AND OH, YOU
09:36:35AM ALREADY APPROVED IT ONCE.
09:36:36AM WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN LOOK AT EVERY STEP IN THAT PROCESS
09:36:39AM AND HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HAVING THE BIG DISCUSS
09:36:44AM WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE IT RATHER THAN AT THE END.
09:36:47AM HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN A PROCESS LIKE THAT BEFORE?
09:36:52AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: TRYING TO THINK.
09:36:53AM MAYBE IT IS LIKE BASICALLY WHEN -- WHEN WE DO A BUDGET
09:36:58AM SOFTWARE THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP AGAIN.
09:37:01AM AND YOU KNOW HAVING TO DECIDE ON HOW -- THE DESIGN OF IT AND
09:37:06AM HOW IT IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
09:37:08AM AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTANTS MIGHT RUN AWAY WITH
09:37:12AM SOME -- SOMETHING THAT THEY THINK IS WE NEED BUT NOT WHAT WE
09:37:20AM NEED.
09:37:20AM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT -- LIKE THE OUTCOME HAS TO
09:37:25AM SERVE BASICALLY ALL -- EVERYBODY.
09:37:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR EXISTING JOBS YOU
09:37:38AM LOOKED AT, ANALYST CONTRACTS.
09:37:40AM I RECENTLY DISCOVERED TALKING TO STAFF THAT SOME OF THE
09:37:44AM CONTRACTS WILL THE PAY A MANAGEMENT FEE FOR AN OVERALL
09:37:46AM CONTRACTOR.
09:37:47AM BUT THE SUBCONTRACTORS ARE HIRED BY THE MAIN CONTRACTOR, AND
09:37:53AM THE CONTRACTS THAT WE GIVE ARE SILENT AS TO WHETHER THE MAIN
09:37:56AM CONTRACTOR CAN MARK UP THE SUBCONTRACTORS.
09:37:59AM WE DON'T INDIVIDUALLY BID OUT THE SUBCONTRACTORS AND THEY
09:38:03AM PRESUMABLY CAN MARK THIS UP WITHOUT TELLING US.
09:38:06AM ARE THOSE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU LOOK FOR IN CONTRACTS
09:38:10AM BEFORE?
09:38:10AM DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT?
09:38:17AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES.
09:38:17AM USUALLY -- AS YOU DO, YOU TAKE SEVERAL BIDS BUT LOOK AT THE
09:38:23AM DETAIL OF THE CONTRACT.
09:38:24AM AND, OF COURSE, IN BUDGET TIMES, WHERE IT IS -- MONIES ARE
09:38:31AM VERY RESTRICTIVE AND EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT RESTRICTIVE, YOU
09:38:35AM WANT TO BE GREAT STEWARDS OF THE MONEY AND MAKE SURE THAT
09:38:38AM ALL THE MONEY IS -- IT IS ALL TAXPAYER MONEY BASICALLY.
09:38:42AM AND MAKE SURE IS EVERYBODY IS SPENT TO THE --
09:38:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED NOW GETTING SEVERAL BIDS.
09:38:48AM DO YOU THINK THAT RFQs ARE SUFFICIENT?
09:38:53AM OR DO YOU PREFER RFPs?
09:38:57AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I THINK RFPs, THEY ARE MORE -- WE USUALLY
09:39:01AM DID RFPs, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
09:39:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST QUESTION.
09:39:07AM TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE GOT THE BUDGET, IT WAS ABOUT 900 AND
09:39:13AM SOMETHING PAGES LONG.
09:39:14AM THIS PAST YEAR WE GOT IT WAS 300 PAGES LONG.
09:39:17AM WE SAID WHERE IS THE REST OF IT.
09:39:19AM IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP US WITH TOO?
09:39:25AM A MONTH LATER WE GOT 300 MORE PAGES AND A COUPLE WEEKS LATER
09:39:29AM ANOTHER 300 PAGES.
09:39:30AM BUT WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT ALL OF IT.
09:39:33AM SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP US WITH IF WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE
09:39:37AM BUDGET?
09:39:37AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES, DEFINITELY.
09:39:40AM SHOULD BE VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
09:39:42AM IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MANY THINGS THAT ARE HIDDEN.
09:39:46AM IT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE.
09:39:49AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH 900 PAGES, BUT
09:39:54AM IN MY POSITION, JUST GO THROUGH IT AND TRY TO WHITTLE DOWN
09:39:59AM WHAT IS IMPORTANCE AND JUST THE MAIN POINTS OF IT.
09:40:03AM OR ANYTHING IN IT IS NOT CORRECT OR RIGHT.
09:40:06AM I USED TO DO -- YOU KNOW, LIKE -- THE STATE UNIVERSITY
09:40:10AM SYSTEM HAS DOCUMENT.
09:40:13AM AND IT IS VERY LONG AND THERE THEY TALK OF ALL THE
09:40:17AM ALLOCATIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND HOW TO SPEND THAT
09:40:25AM MONEY.
09:40:25AM SPECIAL MONEY SOMETIMES.
09:40:27AM I THINK YOU HAVE SPECIAL FUNDS.
09:40:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:40:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DID WANT TO SAY WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:40:36AM NOT THE WAY THAT HAPPENED.
09:40:38AM I OBJECT TO THE FOUNDATION OF THAT QUESTION.
09:40:41AM BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WU, MA'AM.
09:40:43AM FOR MR. SHELBY, WILL THE APPLICANT BE DEALING WITH CRAs AS
09:40:49AM WELL?
09:40:49AM OR JUST CITY COUNCIL?
09:40:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BOTH.
09:40:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY GOOD.
09:40:55AM I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH CRAs AND WHATNOT?
09:41:04AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NOT VERY FAMILIAR BUT I KNOW THEY ARE
09:41:06AM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.
09:41:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
09:41:08AM ONE BIG QUESTION, HOW FAMILIAR ARE YOU WITH SUNSHINE LAW AND
09:41:12AM THE FACT WE CAN'T SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER.
09:41:14AM PERFECT EXAMPLE.
09:41:15AM I JUST MADE A REFERENCE TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT I WOULD
09:41:18AM USUALLY MAKE IN PRIVATE, AND I CAN'T DO THAT SO I HAVE TO
09:41:22AM MAKE IT UP HERE AS AWKWARD AS THAT MIGHT BE.
09:41:24AM SOMETIMES THAT MAKES FOR AWKWARD CONVERSATION AMONG PEOPLE
09:41:28AM THAT LIKE ONE ANOTHER, ETC.
09:41:29AM BUT HOW -- YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH SUNSHINE LAW.
09:41:32AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
09:41:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WOULD BE FAMILIAR IF I SAY SOMETHING YOU
09:41:38AM COULDN'T PASS IT ON TO ANOTHER PERSON EVEN INADVERTENTLY ON
09:41:44AM CITY COUNCIL?
09:41:46AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES.
09:41:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT YOU SEEM LIKE A NICE PERSON.
09:41:50AM I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT MY NOTES, AND I GAVE YOU
09:41:54AM VERY, VERY GOOD MARKS.
09:41:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
09:41:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU.
09:42:02AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: GOOD, THANK YOU.
09:42:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A SCALE OF ONE TO TEN.
09:42:05AM HOW WOULD YOU RELATE AS YOUR LEVEL OF TOUGHNESS AS A WOMAN
09:42:09AM AND AS A EMPLOYEE?
09:42:16AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I WILL SAY AN 8.
09:42:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY?
09:42:18AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE ROOM FOR
09:42:21AM IMPROVEMENT.
09:42:21AM AND I AM NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT IS VERY AGGRESSIVE.
09:42:27AM MY PERSONALITY IS CALMER THAN THAT.
09:42:33AM BUT I ALSO -- I DON'T GET PUSHED AROUND.
09:42:36AM JUST A DIFFERENT WAY.
09:42:38AM SO WHEN YOU ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE, IT IS KIND OF -- PEOPLE
09:42:43AM THINK, OH, YOU ARE JUST SO NICE YOU -- WE ARE JUST GOING TO
09:42:47AM DO ANYTHING WE WANT WITH THIS.
09:42:50AM AND ITS NOT A CASE.
09:42:51AM DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
09:42:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A MYERS BRIGG OR ANY
09:42:56AM TYPE OF LEADERSHIP SURVEY THAT TOLD YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
09:42:59AM YOURSELF?
09:43:00AM ANY TYPE OF LEADERSHIP SURVEY?
09:43:03AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: YES.
09:43:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU SHARE THE RESULTS FOR US?
09:43:06AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: BASICALLY MORE HOW -- SOME PEOPLE MIGHT
09:43:09AM THINK BEFORE --
09:43:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE TEST?
09:43:13AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I CAN'T REMEMBER THE -- THE MYERS BRIGS
09:43:17AM TEST, BUT I DID -- BUT IT WAS A MYERS BRIG TEST.
09:43:25AM YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE FOUR QUADRANTS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER
09:43:30AM WHICH ONE I FELL INTO.
09:43:31AM BASICALLY THE PERSONALITY WAS MORE A THINKER, AND A DOER
09:43:37AM TYPE OF THING.
09:43:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF YOU WERE TO RECEIVE THIS JOB AND
09:43:40AM ACCEPT IT, WHAT WOULD YOUR FIRST 30 DAYS LOOK LIKE?
09:43:46AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: WELL, I -- WELL I WILL TRY TO, YOU KNOW,
09:43:50AM GET TO KNOW THE JOB.
09:43:55AM MEET THE PEOPLE.
09:43:56AM THE PEOPLE YOU ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH.
09:43:59AM LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN ABOUT YOUR SYSTEMS, YOUR -- YOUR
09:44:03AM DATA.
09:44:04AM AND TRY TO SEE, YOU KNOW -- TAKING THE FEEDBACK FROM YOU
09:44:14AM WHAT YOU NEED AND DELIVER ON THAT.
09:44:16AM BUT FIRST BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, I THINK, IS IMPORTANT.
09:44:19AM AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS DOING THE WORK, I DON'T THINK
09:44:28AM I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT, AS FAR AS DOING THE FINANCIAL
09:44:31AM ANALYSIS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM
09:44:35AM YOU.
09:44:35AM AND THEN TRYING -- AND THEN GETTING BACK AND DELIVERING WHAT
09:44:42AM YOU ASK.
09:44:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD.
09:44:44AM THANK YOU.
09:44:44AM IF YOU WERE TO ANALYZE A BUDGET LINE ITEM OR PROJECT COMING
09:44:52AM BEFORE COUNCIL AND APPEAR COUNCILMEMBER CAME TO YOU WITH
09:44:55AM INFORMATION THAT THEY FELT SHOULD BE EXPRESSED, HOW WU
09:44:59AM PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO US AS A BODY IN TERMS OF
09:45:04AM INDICATING IF IT CAME FROM YOU OR IF IT CAME FROM SOMEONE
09:45:07AM ELSE, IF YOU WERE ASKED DIRECTLY.
09:45:09AM DID YOU RECEIVE THIS INFORMATION FROM SOMEONE ELSE OR ARE
09:45:11AM YOU STATING IT ON YOUR OWN?
09:45:16AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: IF I GOT IT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, I WOULD SAY
09:45:18AM WHO I GOT IT FROM.
09:45:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF YOU AGREED OR DISAGREED WITH IT, HOW
09:45:23AM WU HANDLE THAT.
09:45:25AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: IF I DISAGREED.
09:45:27AM I WOULD SAY THIS PERSON'S SUGGESTION WAS X Y AND Z.
09:45:32AM I STAND BY WHAT I DO MYSELF, BUT I WOULDN'T TAKE CREDIT OR
09:45:35AM NONCREDIT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S IDEAS OR ANYTHING.
09:45:38AM I LIKE TO BE CLEAR, HONEST AND UP-FRONT WITH WHAT I DO.
09:45:44AM I THINK THE JOB OF A -- YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE
09:45:49AM A -- GREAT STEWARDS OF THE MONEY.
09:45:52AM OF TAXPAYER MONIES.
09:45:54AM I AM ALWAYS AWARE WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM TO DO ALL
09:45:57AM THESE PROJECTS AND ALL THE EXPENSES AND I THINK I TAKE PRIDE
09:46:04AM IN THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITIES WILL DO ITS BEST TO
09:46:09AM ALLOCATE THE FUND AND USE THEM THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.
09:46:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE WHAT IS CLASSIFIED AS AN
09:46:20AM AWARD-WINNING STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO -- WE HAVE WHAT IS
09:46:27AM CONSIDERED AN AWARD-WINNING STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO OUR
09:46:30AM FINANCES.
09:46:31AM ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT?
09:46:33AM AND HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM IN THE
09:46:36AM BEGINNING OF YOUR CAREER AS A BUDGET ANALYST FOR US.
09:46:41AM WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU WOULD ASK THEM
09:46:44AM FOR?
09:46:46AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: AWARD-WINNING MEANING --
09:46:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED SEVERAL TIMES
09:46:52AM SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
09:46:53AM THEY HAVE BEEN AWARDED QUITE A BIT FOR OUTSTANDING WORK.
09:46:56AM SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT GETTING
09:47:00AM INFORMATION -- THAT WAS REALLY MORE OF A POINT OF REFERENCE
09:47:03AM JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT.
09:47:04AM HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT GETTING INFORMATION FROM THEM?
09:47:07AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I WOULD JUST TRY TO ESTABLISH A
09:47:12AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
09:47:12AM YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE PAST, I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, TRY TO
09:47:18AM APPROACH PEOPLE.
09:47:19AM AND ASK THE QUESTIONS.
09:47:20AM AND IF THEY DON'T -- YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO -- IF
09:47:26AM THEY CAN'T WARM UP TO IT, I HAVE OTHER WAYS TO TALK TO THEM.
09:47:29AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE ALL ADULTS AND PROFESSIONALS
09:47:33AM AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAN -- I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM
09:47:37AM WHERE BE.
09:47:38AM >> WOULD NOT TALK TO ME.
09:47:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED OUR CITY COUNCIL
09:47:46AM MEETINGS?
09:47:49AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: I WATCHED A LITTLE BIT AND I KNOW THEY ARE
09:47:52AM CONTENTIOUS SOMETIMES, YES.
09:47:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A SCENARIO.
09:47:57AM I AM A CITY COUNCILWOMAN, AND I AM LOOKING AT OUR SOCIAL --
09:48:02AM SOCIAL ACTION BUDGET.
09:48:03AM OUR SOCIAL ACTION BUDGET HAS NEVER BEEN CLEAR TO ME.
09:48:06AM IT IS A LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE
09:48:09AM CITY OF TAMPA ON A REGULAR BASIS, ANNUALLY.
09:48:14AM SOMETIMES IT IS RENEWED.
09:48:15AM MOST TIMES IT IS.
09:48:17AM NO RHYME OR REASON HOW THAT WORKS.
09:48:19AM I AM COMING TO YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER SAYING I AM
09:48:23AM INTERESTED IN DIVING INTO SOCIAL ACTION AT ALL LEVELS OF
09:48:27AM FINDING OUT HOW IT COMES ABOUT.
09:48:29AM IF THERE ARE ANY AGREEMENTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THESE
09:48:32AM ORGANIZATIONS.
09:48:32AM HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN FUNDED.
09:48:34AM HOW WU GO ABOUT HANDLING A SITUATION LIKE THAT FROM A
09:48:39AM COUNCILMEMBER?
09:48:41AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BUDGET PEOPLE
09:48:43AM TO SEE WHO THIS IS DISPERSING THAT MONEY.
09:48:48AM WHAT INFORMATION THEY ARE REQUIRING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT
09:48:51AM HAVE RECEIVING THE FUNDS AND WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION THEY
09:48:58AM ARE GETTING BACK AS FAR AS WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE
09:49:00AM MONEY.
09:49:00AM WHERE IS THE BUDGET.
09:49:01AM HOW ARE THEY SPENDING ANY MONEY.
09:49:03AM WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES OF THE USE OF MONEY.
09:49:07AM THEN I WILL TRY TO SUMMARIZE THAT FOR YOU.
09:49:13AM OUTCOMES, BUDGET AND OUTCOMES OF THAT.
09:49:18AM >> OKAY.
09:49:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, KNOWING YOU WERE INTERVIEWING FOR
09:49:23AM THIS JOB.
09:49:24AM CAN YOU TELL US ONE BUDGET ITEM OR SITUATION THAT APPEALED
09:49:27AM TO YOU AND WHY WOULD BE YOU INTERESTED AND DIVING INTO IT.
09:49:36AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: WELL, ONE OF IT WOULD BE LIKE -- LIKE I
09:49:40AM KNOW YOU WERE ON THE MILL TAX AND USING THAT MONEY FOR
09:49:46AM TRANSPORTATION AND REPAIRS ON ROADS AND SO FAR --
09:49:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT THE MILLAGE.
09:49:53AM WE VOTED DOWN THE MILLAGE.
09:49:55AM TALKING OF SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC.
09:49:58AM HAVE YOU TAKEN A LOOK AND DIVE INTO OUR BUDGET AT ALL TO
09:50:01AM QUESTION SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REVEAL THAT RIGHT NOW?
09:50:04AM WHAT I AM TRYING TO GATHER IS HOW MUCH PREPARATION YOU HAVE
09:50:07AM DONE FOR THIS POSITION WHERE YOU COULD SPEAK UPON SOMETHING
09:50:12AM VERY SPECIFICALLY.
09:50:14AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: ONE THING THAT I SAW ABOUT YOUR BUDGET IS
09:50:16AM YOU ARE A VERY HEALTHY RESERVE.
09:50:18AM AND A HEALTHY RESERVE, WHICH IS GOOD.
09:50:24AM I DIDN'T DIVE INTO THE DETAILS OF YOUR SPECIFIC -- OF ANY OF
09:50:29AM YOUR SPECIFIC BUDGETS, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE MANY.
09:50:32AM SO I JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT -- AT A BROAD OVERVIEW, YOU
09:50:38AM KNOW, HOW YOU GO ABOUT BUILDING YOUR BUDGET.
09:50:40AM WHERE IS YOUR BUDGET.
09:50:42AM THE DIFFERENT USES OF YOUR BUDGET.
09:50:45AM I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE WASTEWATER OR -- OR
09:50:50AM WATER BUDGET.
09:50:51AM AND THEY ARE -- THEY -- IT WILL HAVE TO -- I WOULD HAVE TO
09:50:57AM DIVE DOWN INTO THAT SPECIFIC BUDGET TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF
09:51:02AM THERE IS ANYTHING HERE THAT DOESN'T LOOK THAT GREAT.
09:51:05AM I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I -- THAT
09:51:10AM MENTIONED WAS ABOUT THE POLICE BUDGET.
09:51:12AM AND THE FACT THAT MOST OF IT IS SALARIES AND I KNOW THAT --
09:51:23AM YOU KNOW, HARD PLACE TO CUT BUDGETS.
09:51:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU KNOW ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL
09:51:31AM PERSONALLY OR PROFESSIONALLY?
09:51:34AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NO, BUT I HAVE SEEN YOU ALL ON TV.
09:51:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:51:38AM I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
09:51:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD HIS HAND FIRST
09:51:42AM AND THEN COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:51:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I JUST WANT TO SAY COUNCILMAN VIERA, NOT
09:51:50AM THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS IN FRONT OF THE CANDIDATES, IF YOU
09:51:53AM EXPLAINED THAT SITUATION EIGHT TIMES AND YOU THINK I AM
09:51:55AM WRONG, I THINK WE SHOULD SOMEHOW -- I WANT TO HEAR YOUR
09:51:58AM ANSWER, BUT NOT NOW.
09:52:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WELL TAKEN.
09:52:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:52:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING UP THIS
09:52:07AM MORNING.
09:52:07AM IT WAS A PLEASURE LISTENING TO YOU.
09:52:10AM WE ALL SAW THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND READ YOUR
09:52:14AM RESUME.
09:52:14AM IT IS AN EXCELLENT RESUME.
09:52:16AM YOU PRESENTED IT VERY WELL THIS MORNING.
09:52:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF -- IN SUMMARY, WRAP IT UP AND GIVE
09:52:21AM YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
09:52:22AM I KNOW YOU WILL HAVE A CLOSING STATEMENT.
09:52:23AM BUT IN YOUR CLOSING STATEMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS -- BEFORE YOUR
09:52:26AM CLOSING STATEMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED BUT
09:52:30AM DIDN'T THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER.
09:52:33AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: NO, I THINK YOU ASKED MOST OF THE
09:52:38AM QUESTIONS I WAS EXPECTING, I THINK.
09:52:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:52:42AM IT WAS A PLEASURE.
09:52:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:52:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS FUNNY BUT CARLSON, I THINK EIGHT TIMES
09:52:49AM IS A EXAGGERATION.
09:52:51AM MAYBE TWICE.
09:52:52AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
09:52:53AM TOUCHE'.
09:52:54AM ONE THING I WROTE DOWN AND FOR THE OTHER CANDIDATES.
09:52:58AM YOU CAN TELL HAVE THE QUESTIONS THIS IS A FIRST-TIME
09:53:01AM POSITION.
09:53:01AM I DON'T -- THIS IS MY OBSERVATION, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE A
09:53:04AM POSITION THAT IS -- IT IS NEW RIGHT.
09:53:08AM I AM NOT GOING TO SAYS IT FLEXIBLE AND CHANGING BUT THE
09:53:12AM PERSON WHO ENCOMPASS IT IS AS THE FIRST PERSON WILL BE
09:53:15AM DEALING WITH A POSITION THAT IS NEW AND WITH DIFFERENT
09:53:18AM EXPECTATIONS.
09:53:19AM JUST AN OBSERVATION, RIGHT.
09:53:20AM WHICH IS PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS OF YOU AND JUST
09:53:24AM SOMETHING THAT I JUST SAY IS AN OBSERVATION FOR ANY NEW
09:53:27AM POSITION.
09:53:27AM IF I AM AN ATTORNEY AND WE START A NEW PRACTICE AND WE ARE
09:53:30AM GOING TO START A NEW -- A POSITION FOR THE FIRM OVERSIGHT,
09:53:34AM WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IT IS A NEW POSITION AND THERE IS ALWAYS
09:53:38AM DEVELOPING EXPECTATIONS OF IT AND JUST AN OBSERVATION.
09:53:42AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: APPRECIATE THAT.
09:53:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: PERSON WHO IS FLEXIBLE AND HAS STRENGTH LAND
09:53:49AM DO WELL.
09:53:50AM JUST AN OAKS.
09:53:52AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:53:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:53:55AM NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
09:53:56AM TIME IS ALMOST UP.
09:53:58AM WE WILL GIVE YOU A TWO-MINUTE CLOSING OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A
09:54:01AM STATEMENT.
09:54:01AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
09:54:02AM TWO MINUTES.
09:54:03AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: THANK YOU.
09:54:04AM SO AS YOUR BUDGET ANALYST, I BRING WU -- WITH ME A PASSION
09:54:12AM FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
09:54:13AM I AM DEDICATED TO THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND TO ENSURE
09:54:18AM THAT EVERY TAXPAYER MONEY IS ALLOCATED WISELY AND
09:54:27AM EFFECTIVELY.
09:54:27AM I GO BEYOND TO MEET DEADLINE.
09:54:35AM ONE OF MY GREATEST SATISFACTION FACTION IS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
09:54:40AM AND BRING THEM TO A GOOD RESULT.
09:54:42AM I AM READY TO WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH EACH OF YOU, WITH
09:54:48AM DEPARTMENT HEADS, THE COMMUNITY, AND ALL INVOLVED TO SUPPORT
09:54:52AM THE REPORTING AND MANAGEMENT OF BUDGETS THAT SUPPORT -- THAT
09:54:57AM REFLECT OUR SHARED PRIORITIES AND VALUES.
09:55:01AM I AM SURE TOGETHER WE CAN WORK OF GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES AND
09:55:08AM THAN TAMPA WILL THRIVE TO CONTINUE IN A SUSTAINABLE MANNER.
09:55:12AM I AM CERTAIN THAT MY SKILLS, EXPERIENCE, DEDICATION AND
09:55:15AM VISION MAKE THE IDEAL CANDIDATE -- MAKES ME THE IDEAL
09:55:21AM CANDIDATE OF THIS CRITICAL ROLE.
09:55:23AM I AM READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND WORK TIRELESSLY ON
09:55:26AM BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY.
09:55:29AM AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR TIME.
09:55:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:55:35AM >>REGINA SIEWERT: THANK YOU.
09:55:36AM WOULD YOU ALL LIKE A THREE-MINUTE RECESS, TWO MINUTE -- FIVE
09:55:48AM MINUTES?
09:55:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
09:55:50AM I THOUGHT YOU SAID THIS POSITION WOULD EXIST --
09:55:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
10:12:56AM [LAUGHTER]
10:12:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULL MY SCREEN.
10:12:58AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
10:13:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK
10:13:03AM TO ORDER.
10:13:03AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:13:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
10:13:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
10:13:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:13:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:13:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:13:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
10:13:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:13:18AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:13:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:13:21AM NEXT UP, WE HAVE HAGAR KOPESKY.
10:13:24AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY.
10:13:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY NAME IS BUTCHERED MY ENTIRE LIFE.
10:13:33AM STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR AN OPENING
10:13:36AM STATEMENT.
10:13:36AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: SORRY, STATE MY NAME.
10:13:39AM GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS HAGAR KOPESKY.
10:13:42AM VERY NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU IN PERSON.
10:13:44AM AND I AM EXCITED TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR THIS BUDGET ANALYST
10:13:47AM POSITION SUPPORTING THE COUNCIL.
10:13:49AM AS HE MENTIONED IN MY EARLY RESPONSES TO THIS GROUP, MY
10:13:52AM BACKGROUND HAS BEEN PRIMARILY IN THE FINANCIAL PLANNING AND
10:13:54AM ANALYSIS DEPARTMENT OF THE RETAIL INDUSTRY.
10:13:57AM THIS ENVIRONMENT TENDED TO FOCUS ON CUSTOMERS, SALES GROWTH,
10:14:02AM INNOVATION AND COST EFFICIENCIES.
10:14:04AM CLEARLY STATED ORGANIZATIONAL-WIDE GOALS.
10:14:09AM I WORKED WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF OPERATIONS TO QUANTIFY
10:14:14AM PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND SUGGESTION SO MANAGEMENT CAN MAKE
10:14:17AM INFORMED DECISIONS.
10:14:18AM WHEN I SAW THE JOB POSTING FOR THE BUSINESS ANALYST POSITION
10:14:22AM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, I WAS INTRIGUED BECAUSE INCLUDED MANY
10:14:24AM OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES I HAD IN MY CAREER HISTORY.
10:14:26AM SPECIFICALLY, IT REQUIRES OBTAINING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE
10:14:30AM WORK FLOWS OF THE VARIOUS BUSINESS UNITS TO PROPERLY ANALYZE
10:14:36AM THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE ACTIVITIES AND THEIR
10:14:38AM FINANCIAL IMPACT.
10:14:39AM MY SUCCESS OF THIS IN THE PAST HAS HELPED ME TO HIGHLIGHT
10:14:42AM AREAS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR COST SAVINGS AND INCREASED
10:14:45AM REVENUES.
10:14:46AM I WORKED WITH LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS THROUGH PLANNING
10:14:50AM THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION THAT ALLOWED ME TO ASSESS IF WE WERE
10:14:54AM MEETING OUR TIMING AND RETURN ON INVESTMENT EXPECTATIONS.
10:14:56AM WHEN I DUG INTO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS AVAILABLE ON THE
10:14:59AM CITY OF TAMPA WEB SITE, I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE GOALS THE
10:15:01AM MAYOR HAS SET FORTH FOR THE CITY AND FOUND MYSELF WANTING TO
10:15:04AM UNDERSTAND MORE AND HOW I COULD CONTRIBUTE TO ACHIEVING
10:15:08AM THEM.
10:15:08AM SOME OF THESE FOALS FOCUS ON NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE
10:15:12AM STABILITY LIKE PIPES.
10:15:14AM THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT IS 25% COMPLETE.
10:15:17AM AND IT IS ESSENTIAL TO MONITOR A PROJECT OF IN MAGNITUDE
10:15:21AM CLOSELY BECAUSE THEY CAN AT RISK FOR DELAY WITH RESOURCES
10:15:25AM GET STRETCHED WITH DAY-TO-DAY DUTY AND PROJECT COMMANDS.
10:15:29AM CONTRAST THAT WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOAL OF 10,000
10:15:32AM UNITS BY 2027.
10:15:33AM A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL AS THE CITY EMBARKS ON A COMMUNITY
10:15:37AM LAND TRUST AS WELL AS EMPLOYING TAX CREDITS AND FUNDING TO
10:15:42AM CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
10:15:43AM I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THIS GOAL AS A GROWTH OR ADVANCING THE
10:15:47AM CITY'S LIVABILITY.
10:15:52AM I CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE REVENUES ARE SOURCED BY THE
10:15:55AM INCREMENTAL GROWTH AND TAXABLE VALUE WITHIN EACH CRA.
10:15:59AM I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT BEFORE.
10:16:01AM AND THE FUND MUST BE USED WITHIN THE SPECIFIC CRA.
10:16:04AM WITH TAMPA'S RECENT GROWTH, THIS HAS PROVIDED A REAL BENEFIT
10:16:07AM TO THE AFFORDED FOR GOAL, PARTICULARLY THE DOWNTOWN AREA
10:16:11AM WHERE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING HAS EXPLODED.
10:16:13AM I THINK MY EXPERIENCE ON MY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS BOARD
10:16:16AM WILL ASSIST ME IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY
10:16:19AM COMMITTEES.
10:16:19AM BOTH OF THOSE ARE UNPAID POSITIONS THAT PEOPLE APPLY FOR TO
10:16:22AM WORK TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THE AREA THEY LIVE IN.
10:16:25AM ONE FINAL OBSERVATION AFTER REVIEWING THE 2024 OPERATING
10:16:29AM BUDGETS BY DEPARTMENT.
10:16:31AM TAKE A BREATH HERE.
10:16:32AM 85% OF THE 1.8 BILLION NET APPROPRIATED BUDGET IS COMPRISED
10:16:37AM OF SEVEN DEPARTMENTS.
10:16:38AM THE LARGEST BEING WATER, WASTEWATER, POLICE AND SOLID WASTE.
10:16:42AM WITH SUCH A MATERIAL SPEND CONCENTRATED THERE, IT IS
10:16:45AM IMPORTANT TO BALANCE THE FOCUS ON THESE OPERATING COSTS AS
10:16:48AM WELL AS INITIATIVE-DRIVEN INVESTMENTS.
10:16:50AM I BELIEVE I CAN HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
10:16:53AM SORRY, I AM A LITTLE BIT OVER.
10:16:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
10:17:00AM >> SHOOT.
10:17:00AM THAT IS THE CLOSE OF THE OPENING.
10:17:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:04AM THANK YOU FOR THAT OPENING STATEMENT.
10:17:05AM YOU ANSWERED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IN THAT
10:17:11AM STATEMENT.
10:17:11AM YES.
10:17:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF MISS KOPESKY IS AWARE --
10:17:20AM DID SHE KNOW OF THE TIMER AND QUESTIONS.
10:17:22AM HAVE YOU BEEN INFORMED?
10:17:24AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I HEARD A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THE END AND
10:17:26AM I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON IT.
10:17:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THREE-MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT PERIOD.
10:17:29AM THEN THERE IS A 40-MINUTE Q&A WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND A
10:17:35AM TWO-MINUTE CLOSING.
10:17:37AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: YES, UNDERSTOOD.
10:17:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I LOOKED AT YOUR RESUME AS WELL.
10:17:44AM I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFICS QUESTIONS.
10:17:47AM NO, I AM OKAY FOR NOW.
10:17:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:17:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:54AM AND I WILL -- QUICK.
10:17:56AM DID YOU SEE THE INTERVIEW WITH THE LAST INDIVIDUAL?
10:17:59AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: NO, WE DID NOT SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING.
10:18:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: OF TWO THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO GO OVER.
10:18:04AM NUMBER ONE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH SUNSHINE LAW?
10:18:09AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: SO I WILL TELL YOU I HAVE A VERY HIGH LEVEL
10:18:11AM DUE TO THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENTS AT TIMES.
10:18:15AM BUT VERY, VERY MINIMAL.
10:18:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS FINE.
10:18:19AM I AM SURE WHEN SOME OF US WERE ELECTED WE ARE LIKE, WHAT?
10:18:24AM KOPESKY COPE IT IS VOLUMINOUS.
10:18:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU IN ANY WAY.
10:18:29AM SOMETHING TO KNOW ABOUT WHEN YOU GET THE JOB.
10:18:31AM NUMBER TWO IS AN OBSERVATION I MADE SINCE THIS PERSON,
10:18:34AM WHETHER IT IS YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON
10:18:38AM IN THIS POSITION, THAT IT -- HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG
10:18:42AM TIME, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
10:18:44AM IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY CHANGING, RIGHT,
10:18:48AM IN TERMS OF -- THERE IS -- I WOULD SUGGEST WITH A BOARD WITH
10:18:51AM SEVEN INDIVIDUALS, THERE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
10:18:53AM EXPECTATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS.
10:18:57AM IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR THAT JOB TO SETTLE IN FOR WHAT IT IS
10:19:01AM THOSE ARE, AGAIN, MY PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS FOR A POSITION
10:19:05AM LIKE THIS AND EVERYTHING.
10:19:06AM NO, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR OPENING REMARKS.
10:19:08AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:19:10AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: ABSOLUTELY.
10:19:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I DIDN'T REQUEST.
10:19:13AM DO YOU WATCH CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS?
10:19:17AM >> I HAVE WATCHED SOME OF THEM, YES.
10:19:18AM I WAS ACTUALLY WATCHING BY COINCIDENCE ONLY THE ONE WHERE
10:19:23AM YOU ACTUALLY HAD A LARGE GROUP OF FOLKS SUPPORTING PALESTINE
10:19:27AM COME THROUGH AND YOU HAD TO DO QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO KEEP
10:19:30AM EVERYBODY ON CHECK FOR WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA THAT DAY AND
10:19:32AM EMOTIONALLY CHARGED PORTIONS OF THE MEETING.
10:19:35AM AGAIN, I JUST REMEMBER, I THOUGHT THAT IS A TOUGH ONE.
10:19:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOME OF OUR MEETINGS -- AND I BROUGHT
10:19:40AM THIS UP WITH THE LAST INDIVIDUAL, BUT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE
10:19:44AM LAST BUDGET PRESENTATION, AND THOSE VOTES.
10:19:51AM THE MEETINGS WENT VERY LATE.
10:19:52AM DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE WORKING LATE, 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND
10:19:56AM MIDNIGHT.
10:19:56AM NOT OFTEN THAT IT HAPPENS, ABOUT YOU IT HAPPENS.
10:19:58AM BEYOND LAND USE AND INTO BUDGET STUFF.
10:20:02AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: GENERALLY -- AGAIN, MY BACK GROUND YEAR END
10:20:05AM AND BUDGET SEASON WERE TWO EXAMPLES WHERE THERE WAS A LARGE
10:20:08AM INFLUX OF WORK.
10:20:09AM A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS HAPPENING.
10:20:11AM SO THERE WERE OFTEN PERHAPS NOT 2 A.M., BUT A LOT OF LATE
10:20:15AM EVENINGS, SO, NO, I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
10:20:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU ACTIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA?
10:20:21AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: MINIMALLY, TO THE POINT I WOULD SAY
10:20:24AM ACTUALLY -- YOU PROBABLY LOOKED AT IT, MY LINKEDIN PAGE
10:20:30AM NEEDS WORK AND DON'T USE FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM A CHOICE TO
10:20:34AM MAKE NOT TO GET INVOLVED.
10:20:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, I SEE YOUR HAND
10:20:38AM UP.
10:20:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS -- BASICALLY YOU ARE REPORTING TO
10:20:41AM SEVEN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.
10:20:44AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: TRICKY.
10:20:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A POSITION THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FILLED IN A
10:20:48AM LONG TIME AS PREVIOUS COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE STATED WILL SETTLE
10:20:51AM OUT EVENTUALLY BUT WILL TAKE SOME USE TO THAT.
10:20:55AM CAN YOU DESCRIBE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PAST OF BEING MORE
10:20:58AM SELF-DIRECTED.
10:20:59AM BECAUSE IT IS -- GOING TO BE THE KIND OF POSITION THAT
10:21:02AM NOBODY SAYS YOU HAVE TO YOU DO THIS TODAY OR THAT.
10:21:04AM BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE EXPECTATIONS BIWEEKLY -- IN A
10:21:08AM PREVIOUS INTERVIEW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID WE WILL EXPECT
10:21:11AM THESE BUDGET REPORTS -- EVERY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS WE HAVE
10:21:15AM ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE US THAT HAVE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS.
10:21:18AM THERE WILL BE SOME SELF-DIRECTION OF DIGGING THROUGH THESE
10:21:22AM AGENDA ITEMS, BRINGING THOSE ITEMS FORWARD TO EACH
10:21:26AM INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS TO GIVE US BRIEFS.
10:21:28AM YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THAT IN A SELF-DIRECTED WAY TO IDENTIFY
10:21:31AM THINGS, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK FOR THINGS.
10:21:32AM CAN YOU HARKEN BACK TO MAYBE A JOB EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST
10:21:36AM WHERE YOU HAD THAT AND HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE THAT APPLYING TO
10:21:40AM THIS POSITION.
10:21:41AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: OKAY, SO SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, I DID
10:21:44AM SPEAK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIRTH, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IT.
10:21:47AM A TRICKY TIME.
10:21:48AM WHEN QVC WAS BUYING OUT HSN AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE HSN
10:21:54AM STAFF, THERE WAS A LOT HAPPENING QUICKLY AND WITH THAT,
10:21:57AM THERE WERE PEOPLE BEING ELIMINATED FROM THE COMPANY VERY
10:22:01AM QUICKLY, RIGHT.
10:22:01AM SO I WAS -- I WAS ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT REMAINED TO HELP
10:22:06AM TRANSITION THE TECHNICAL TEAM BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS.
10:22:11AM AND SO IN DOING THAT, WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING, THERE WAS A
10:22:15AM LOT OF PHYSICAL BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN PENNSYLVANIA AND ST.
10:22:18AM PETERSBURG, BUT SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WORK, SO
10:22:20AM NOW YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATION WHICH I WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH
10:22:23AM THAT HER CAPITAL PLAN AND THEIR TECHNICAL OPERATING BUDGET
10:22:27AM -- I WANT TO SAY "TECHNICAL" BUT I MEAN "INFORMATION
10:22:31AM TECHNOLOGY."
10:22:32AM NOW WE ARE CONSOLIDATING WITH A MUCH LARGER ORGANIZATION.
10:22:35AM AND THERE IS NO ONE HELPING YOU, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, MOST
10:22:39AM OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF HSN'S MANAGEMENT ARE
10:22:43AM GONE.
10:22:44AM THE FOLKS AT QVC JUST NEED TO GET WORK DONE, BECAUSE THEIR
10:22:49AM FOCUS IS MAKING SURE THEY DELIVER TO THE STREET THE SAVINGS
10:22:52AM THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO GET.
10:22:53AM SO WHAT I -- AGAIN, TO COME BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION,
10:22:58AM WHAT I HAD TO DO AT THE TIME WAS VERY QUICKLY MEET MY STAFF
10:23:02AM IN PENNSYLVANIA.
10:23:02AM UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU -- HOW IS YOUR DATA SET UP
10:23:07AM FOR CAPITAL AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY EXPENSES.
10:23:10AM AND BASICALLY BUILD THEIR CAP EX PROGRAM -- BUDGET
10:23:15AM INDEPENDENTLY, PRIMARILY BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE TEAM THAT HAD
10:23:19AM PREVIOUSLY BEEN DOING THAT WAS MOVED ON TO OTHER THINGS.
10:23:21AM AND IT MEANT BASICALLY GOING INTO THE SYSTEMS, EXTRACTING
10:23:25AM DATA, LOOKING AT THE PROJECT SYSTEMS TO UNDERSTAND THE
10:23:28AM STATUS OF WHERE THEY WERE, AND THEN, ESSENTIALLY, TAKING A
10:23:33AM STAB AT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE DONE -- WHERE I AM FROM AND
10:23:36AM BASICALLY APPLY THE SAME LOGIC BETWEEN USING A PERCENTAGE OF
10:23:40AM REVENUE KIND OF APPROACH TO A CAPITAL TARGET.
10:23:45AM AND THEN INCORPORATING IN THE PROJECTS THAT WERE LIVE AND IN
10:23:49AM PLACE, WHICH WERE NUMEROUS.
10:23:52AM INCORPORATING IN THEIR STATUS TO BUILD UP TO A -- IN THIS
10:23:57AM CASE, IT WAS 2020 CAP EX PLAN.
10:24:03AM IT REQUIRED QUICKLY GETTING FAMILIAR WITH THEIR SYSTEMS,
10:24:05AM UNDERSTANDING AND APPLYING INFORMATION I HAD DONE FOR HSN,
10:24:09AM TALKING TO THE CORRECT PEOPLE, AS FAR AS PROJECT LEADS IN
10:24:12AM THE QVC AREA, AND THEN ROLLING IT TOGETHER AND MAKING A
10:24:16AM RECOMMENDATION AND BEING CONFIDENT THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS
10:24:20AM ROOTED IN GOOD DATA.
10:24:21AM AND AT THAT POINT, PRESENTING IT TO -- IN THAT CASE THE CFO.
10:24:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:24:26AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:24:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS NEXT.
10:24:29AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:24:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HI.
10:24:31AM OH, YEAH -- HELP YOURSELF.
10:24:34AM VERY IMPORTANT TO STAY HYDRATED.
10:24:36AM YEAH, WE ALL HAVE IT.
10:24:38AM SO THANK YOU.
10:24:41AM AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN DOES TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME
10:24:45AM -- NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THIS GIANT BUDGET CYCLE EVERY TWO
10:24:48AM WEEKS.
10:24:48AM WE HAVE SMALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE.
10:24:51AM SOME THAT WERE WITHIN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.
10:24:53AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND THINGS
10:24:57AM CHANGE.
10:24:58AM AND SO -- SO HOW YOU LOOK AT HOW THAT CHANGED.
10:25:01AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO DO BEING A GOVERNMENT, WE
10:25:06AM HAVE A LOT OF FUNDS THAT COME IN THAT ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE
10:25:10AM USED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES.
10:25:12AM SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOUR WORK WITH QVC AND HSN, HOW
10:25:22AM YOU HAD EXPERIENCE WITH WORKING WITH FUNDS THAT CAN ONLY BE
10:25:25AM USED IN CERTAIN AREAS, AND HOW YOU SORT OF KEEP TRACK OF
10:25:29AM THAT?
10:25:32AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: RIGHT.
10:25:32AM AND I DID TRY TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF A BIT WITH THE
10:25:37AM DEFINITIONS OF THE FUNDS BUT AT THIS POINT IT IS A PRETTY
10:25:39AM HIGH-LEVEL UNDERSTANDING.
10:25:41AM BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH OPERATING
10:25:45AM EXPENSES AND CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AT Q AND H, INEVITABLY,
10:25:53AM YOU WOULD TRY VERY HARD TO ALLOW EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE
10:25:57AM BUSINESS UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THOSE
10:25:59AM INITIATIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXECUTE TO THOSE INITIATIVES.
10:26:04AM IF SOMETHING CAME IN AT OVERRUN OUTSTANDING OPPORTUNITY OF
10:26:10AM SOMETHING WITH SALES GROWTH.
10:26:11AM THERE WAS A NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT IS NOT
10:26:14AM URGENT.
10:26:15AM NOT TERRIBLY IMPORTANT AND USUALLY THAT QUAD HAVEN'T VERY
10:26:21AM IMPORTANT THROUGH A LOT OF DECISION MAKING AND WHAT I WOULD
10:26:25AM SAY, A LOT OF TIME THE THINGS THAT COULD NOT GET MOVED WOULD
10:26:28AM BE -- TRYING TO DRAW AN ALIGNMENT TO FUNDS THAT CANNOT BE
10:26:32AM TOUCHED.
10:26:32AM USUALLY SOMETHING LIKE SECURITY AND SAFETY.
10:26:35AM SOMETHING THAT WE JUST KNEW STRAIGHT OUT TWO NOT BE RIGHT TO
10:26:38AM DO OR REGULATORY, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:26:42AM OUTSIDE OF THAT IN MY WORLD, MOST EVERYTHING CAN BE
10:26:46AM NEGOTIATED.
10:26:47AM PART OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN DOING THAT THOUGH, AND I DON'T
10:26:50AM KNOW HOW COMMON THIS IS HERE, BUT THE WORK I WOULD DO WITH
10:26:54AM FOLKS WAS TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE WE TRADING OUT AND
10:26:57AM WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF TRADING.
10:26:58AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN TERMS OF THERE WILL BE A
10:27:01AM NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE.
10:27:02AM HOW DO YOU MANAGE WHERE WE ARE WITH EXISTING PROJECTS AND
10:27:06AM HOW WE CAN KIND OF DETOUR AND MOVE ON, I WOULD ASK -- NOT
10:27:10AM ASK, BUT HOPE THAT PART OF THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT HERE
10:27:12AM WOULD BE ME PARTICIPATING IN ACTUALLY WHERE THE BENEFITS OF
10:27:16AM THOSE SHIFTS COME FROM TO MAKE SURE COLLECTIVELY THE RIGHT
10:27:21AM DECISIONS ARE MADE.
10:27:22AM AS FAR AS TRACKING, YOU BASICALLY SET UP A SYSTEM.
10:27:25AM AGAIN, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE SYSTEMS, BUT MY JOB
10:27:28AM WOULD TO BE MAKE SURE I AM ON TOP OF WHAT THE STATUS OF
10:27:32AM THOSE PROJECTS TO ARE, REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH THE
10:27:35AM BUSINESS OWNER, AND THEN -- 30 SECONDS ARE DONE?
10:27:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, IT IS NOT.
10:27:40AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: BASE COMPLETE THAT WILL FOLD BACK INTO
10:27:45AM BEING ABLE TO TELL THIS GROUP.
10:27:46AM ALL RIGHT, HERE IS WHERE WE HAVE CAPACITY AND HERE WE DON'T
10:27:50AM HAVE CAPACITY.
10:27:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:27:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:27:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS.
10:27:58AM APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.
10:28:00AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
10:28:04AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND I TALKED BACK AND FORTH THE LAST TIME
10:28:08AM IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS AND IDEAS
10:28:12AM AND BASES THAT WE REPORT TO, BUT ULTIMATELY IF YOU FEEL
10:28:17AM CONFLICTED, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND ASK THE
10:28:20AM BOARD TO VOTE.
10:28:20AM IF YOU GET FOUR VOTES, THAT IS THE DIRECTION.
10:28:22AM SO ULTIMATELY, WE AS A GROUP DECIDES.
10:28:27AM YOU MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND TWO BRANCHES OF
10:28:36AM GOVERNMENT.
10:28:36AM JUDICIAL IS SEPARATE, BUT TWO BRANCHES OF GOD.
10:28:40AM IN TALLAHASSEE AND IN WASHINGTON D.C., WE START TO WATCH
10:28:44AM OVER EACH OTHER PROVIDE OVERSIGHT.
10:28:48AM ALLOWED IN THE CHARTER, WE HAVE OUR OWN ATTORNEY.
10:28:51AM THERE IS A CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT HAVE A BUNCH OF STAFF
10:28:54AM AND WE HAVE OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:28:56AM THE REASON IS THAT ALTHOUGH BY CHARTER, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
10:29:01AM OFFICE REPRESENTS THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND A FEW
10:29:04AM OTHERS, PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY
10:29:09AM COUNCIL HAD OBJECTIVE ADVICE.
10:29:11AM SAME THING.
10:29:12AM WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF IN THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT, CFO,
10:29:16AM FINANCIAL PEOPLE, BUT THE CHARTER PROVIDES IN SOME PREVIOUS
10:29:20AM COUNCILS PUT THIS POSITION IN TO PROVIDE OBJECTIVE BUDGET
10:29:26AM OPINIONS.
10:29:26AM ULTIMATELY, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CFO AND OTHER STAFF
10:29:31AM ALL REPORT TO THE MAYOR.
10:29:32AM THE ONLY ONE THAT REPORTS TO US IS THE CITY ATTORNEY, THIS
10:29:35AM POSITION AND OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDS.
10:29:37AM SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE THIS WHOLE
10:29:41AM PROCESS WHERE THE -- WHERE THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE AND BUDGET
10:29:44AM PEOPLE WILL BE GOING THROUGH.
10:29:45AM WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEBODY TO -- AND WE NEED NOR SOMEBODY TO
10:29:51AM LOOK AT IT AND INTERPRET IT.
10:29:54AM GIVE US INSIGHTS WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED.
10:29:56AM I LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF BUDGET.
10:29:58AM I DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND, SO I NEED SOMEBODY TO
10:30:01AM WATCH OVER IT AND LET ME KNOW WHAT IS THERE.
10:30:04AM BUT THE SITUATION IS THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING CITY COUNCIL.
10:30:09AM AND WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.
10:30:11AM MAYOR IS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TOO.
10:30:13AM BUT WE ARE ALSO DISTRICT PEOPLE.
10:30:15AM I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
10:30:16AM THERE IS REPRESENTATIVES OF NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST AND
10:30:20AM THREE CITYWIDE.
10:30:21AM WE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME.
10:30:22AM AND WHAT I HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS, WE WANT BETTER
10:30:27AM SERVICES, WE WANT BETTER DELIVERY AND WE DON'T WANT OUR
10:30:30AM TAXES RAISED.
10:30:31AM SO WHAT THAT MEANS, WE HAVE TO FIND EFFICIENCIES.
10:30:34AM WAYS TO SAVE MONEY.
10:30:35AM SOMETIMES THERE IS A UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSION WHERE WE ASK
10:30:39AM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WE SAY, HEY, WE THINK THIS IS TOO
10:30:42AM EXPENSIVE.
10:30:43AM CAN YOU PLEASE CUT THAT.
10:30:45AM AND WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO IS STRONG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO BE
10:30:47AM HELP US TO EXPLAIN THAT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE EVEN THOUGH THEY
10:30:51AM ARE GREAT PEOPLE IN THE CFO'S OFFICE AND IN THE ATTORNEY'S
10:30:57AM OFFICE, WHERE HE SOMETIMES GO BACK AND FORTH.
10:30:58AM ARE YOU OKAY WORK BEING IN THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.
10:31:01AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THE FIRST THING I WOULD ASK.
10:31:03AM FOR ME TO BE SUCCESSFUL, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN
10:31:07AM -- AND I THINK YOU AGREE WITH THIS, COLLABORATIVE
10:31:11AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
10:31:13AM THEY CONTROL THE SYSTEMS.
10:31:14AM THEY RUN THE BUDGET PROCESS, ACCOUNTING.
10:31:16AM SO I KNOW THAT IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT VERY QUICKLY WILL NEED
10:31:19AM TO BE BUILT AND ESTABLISHED THERE.
10:31:31AM DRAW A PARALLEL.
10:31:33AM FINANCE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING FORWARD A BUDGET TO THE
10:31:36AM MAYOR, TO THE CFO, THE ORIGIN OF THOSE BUDGETS ARE STEMMING
10:31:40AM FROM THE INDIVIDUAL OPERATIONAL UNITS.
10:31:43AM THEY ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS -- THOSE LEADERS ARE
10:31:46AM MAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND FROM THERE IT BUBBLES UP
10:31:50AM AND BECOMES A COMPETITION WHAT WILL BE PRIORITIZED.
10:31:53AM THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
10:31:56AM THESE UNITS ARE LARGE.
10:31:58AM FULFILLMENT, CALL CENTER, MARKETING.
10:32:01AM EVERYBODY THOUGHT THEIR WORLD WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT WORLD.
10:32:04AM AND SO AS PART OF WHITTLING DOWN AND PRIORITIZING, THE NEED
10:32:12AM TO HAVE TO GO IN AND CHALLENGE, ALL RIGHT, BACK TO THE
10:32:16AM INITIATIVES.
10:32:16AM HERE IS WHAT WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO.
10:32:18AM HERE ARE THE GOALS.
10:32:19AM HOW DOES THIS FEED UNDER -- HOW DOES THIS SUPPORT THIS.
10:32:24AM CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN.
10:32:26AM DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE ALWAYS PLEASANT, NO.
10:32:29AM BUT I THINK WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO DO HERE MAKES SENSE.
10:32:32AM I HEAR THE SAME THING AS A CITIZEN.
10:32:33AM WHY DOES THE ROADS TAKE SO LONG TO BE FIXED?
10:32:36AM WHY -- PROBABLY COMMON THINGS.
10:32:39AM I DON'T WANT TO BE THE PERSON -- IF I HEAR IT, I AM SURE YOU
10:32:43AM ARE HEARING IT.
10:32:44AM SO I THINK WANTING TO FIND AREAS -- HONESTLY, SOME OF THEM
10:32:47AM ARE IN THE MOST NONSEXY WAYS.
10:32:50AM THEY ARE CONTRACT REVIEW.
10:32:51AM THEY ARE SILLY LITTLE THINGS WITH OVERTIME WHERE WE ARE JUST
10:32:54AM NOT MANAGING STAFF WELL.
10:32:55AM THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DUG.
10:32:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE
10:33:02AM FEEDBACK AND GIVE IT TO US, IT WILL RUFFLE SOME FEATHERS AND
10:33:06AM EXCELLENT PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE
10:33:08AM MAYOR IN CHARGE, BUT IF THERE IS A CERTAIN DIRECTIVE.
10:33:12AM WE DON'T LIKE THAT.
10:33:13AM WHAT ABOUT THAT.
10:33:14AM WE CAN SAY THAT AS NICELY AS POSSIBLE, BUT SOMETIMES IT
10:33:17AM CAUSES CONFLICT, ARE YOU OKAY --
10:33:20AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY WILL I BE STRONG
10:33:23AM ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH POTENTIALLY THE CONFLICT.
10:33:25AM YES.
10:33:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, TWO YEARS AGO WE GOT THE
10:33:30AM BUDGET IT WAS 900-PLUS PAGES LONG.
10:33:32AM WE GOT THE ONE A FEW MONTHS AGO IT WAS 300 PAGE PAGES.
10:33:36AM SO OUR BUDGET -- OUR BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE SAID WHERE IS
10:33:40AM THE REST OF IT.
10:33:40AM COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER GOT 300 MORE PAGE AND COUPLE MORE
10:33:45AM WEEKS, WHERE IS THE REST OF IT.
10:33:47AM 300 AND THEN 24 MORE PAGES.
10:33:49AM WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO IS ALSO STRONG ENOUGH TO SAY, HEY, WE
10:33:52AM NEED THE WHOLE THING.
10:33:55AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: COMPLETE IN ONE SHOT.
10:33:56AM WE ARE NOT BUDGET PEOPLE.
10:33:57AM WE KNEW LOOKING AT THE PRIOR ONE THERE WAS MORE INFORMATION
10:34:00AM AND MORE DETAIL.
10:34:01AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING WHEN I WAS GOING
10:34:04AM THROUGH THE INFORMATION ONLINE.
10:34:05AM AND I WAS ANTICIPATING YOU MAY ASK SOMETHING OF POTENTIAL
10:34:08AM IMPROVEMENTS.
10:34:09AM THIS IS SAID WITH NO JUDGMENT BECAUSE THE INFORMATION OUT
10:34:11AM THERE IS PROBABLY NOT EVERYTHING THAT IS AVAILABLE.
10:34:13AM JUST THERE FOR PEOPLE TO READ PUBLICLY, BUT ALONG THOSE
10:34:17AM LINES, I THINK THAT I NOTICE OFTEN WHEN A VARIANCE -- A
10:34:22AM VARIANCE DISCUSSION IS MADE.
10:34:24AM IT IS MIND AT AN ACCOUNT LEVEL.
10:34:26AM SOMEONE WILL SAY WE WENT UP IN THIS FUND AND DEPARTMENT
10:34:30AM BECAUSE OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
10:34:31AM DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE TIME TO GO AND PROVIDE DETAIL FOR
10:34:35AM PEOPLE ONLINE.
10:34:36AM NO, BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT WAS FOR PROFESSIONAL
10:34:39AM SERVICES RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTATION OF SOMETHING
10:34:44AM FOR X, Y AND Z.
10:34:47AM I THINK THAT DIGGING TOWN THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- ONE,
10:34:52AM I LOVE DOING THAT.
10:34:53AM SOMETHING IN ME THAT I REALLY ENJOY.
10:34:55AM AND TWO, THAT IS THE -- DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS AND THAT IS
10:34:59AM WHERE THE STORY COMES OUT.
10:35:00AM SO I THINK THAT -- I ACTUALLY -- PART OF WHY I APPLIED FOR
10:35:04AM THE JOB IS THAT WHAT IT SEEMED LIKE YOU NEEDED TO
10:35:07AM INDEPENDENTLY GET IN THERE --
10:35:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERYBODY IN THE CITY HAS SOME KIND OF
10:35:11AM SOCIAL INTEREST BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN PRETTY MUCH GET PAID
10:35:15AM MORE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
10:35:16AM THE POSITIVE THING IN THIS POSITION.
10:35:17AM YOU ARE WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE
10:35:22AM DEFENDING THE MONEY OF THE CITIZENS.
10:35:24AM AND THE MAYOR HAS HER OPINIONS TOO.
10:35:27AM SOMETIMES SHE DISAGREES WITH OURS, VICE VERSA.
10:35:30AM BUT DEMOCRACY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY OR ALWAYS HAPPY
10:35:34AM BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GET TO BETTER SOLUTIONS.
10:35:36AM BUT YOUR -- YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE PERSON MAKING SURE WE
10:35:40AM SPEND MONEY CORRECTLY.
10:35:41AM AN EXAMPLE, WE FIND THAT A LOT OF OR RFQs AS WELL AS RFPs.
10:35:49AM DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?
10:35:51AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: OKAY.
10:35:52AM SO I GENERALLY HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH RFPs.
10:35:55AM I AM NOT SURE QUITE WHY THAT WOULD BE.
10:36:00AM YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I KNOW THAT -- AND THIS IS PART OF THE
10:36:04AM GOALS I THINK OF MAKING SURE OPPORTUNITIES ARE MADE
10:36:07AM AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT THEY ARE DONE SO IN AN
10:36:09AM EQUAL FASHION.
10:36:10AM I -- SORRY, EXCUSE ME -- I THINK THAT THERE IS GENERALLY A
10:36:17AM VERY STANDARD PROCESS BY WHICH YOU, A, SELECT THE MINIMUM
10:36:22AM NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.
10:36:23AM B, I WILL USE THIS AGAIN -- AS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR KEY
10:36:27AM CRITERIA.
10:36:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: A POLICY POINT OF VIEW, WE CAN INFLUENCE
10:36:31AM THAT PROCESS TOO.
10:36:31AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I WOULD SAY -- SOMETHING I WOULD WANT TO
10:36:34AM UNDERSTAND MORE WHY THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING
10:36:37AM CURRENTLY.
10:36:37AM JUST BECAUSE I AM NEW AND I MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY, I MAY NOT
10:36:41AM KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT.
10:36:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER THING.
10:36:43AM WE HAVE A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER OF SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.
10:36:46AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: WHICH I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF.
10:36:49AM TO ME -- UNLESS IT IS SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE.
10:36:52AM WHERE THE SUPPLIERS ARE SO LIMITED YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN
10:36:57AM INCREDIBLY -- I CUT YOU OFF, I APOLOGIZE, GENERALLY NOT A
10:37:03AM GOOD IDEA.
10:37:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS LOOKING AT CONTRACTS.
10:37:06AM NEW STAFF IN CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION IS DOING IN AND THEY
10:37:10AM ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH US, BUT, FOR
10:37:14AM EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE VERY BIG CONTRACTS, HUGE MULTIMILLION
10:37:17AM DOLLAR CONTRACTS, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WILL GET LIKE 5%.
10:37:21AM BUT THEN ALL THE SUBCONTRACTORS ARE CHOSEN BY THE GENERAL
10:37:26AM CONTRACTOR AND NOT PUT OUT FOR RFP.
10:37:29AM AND THE CONTRACTS AS I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS ANYWAY, SOME
10:37:33AM OF THE CONTRACTS ARE SILENT WHETHER THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR
10:37:36AM CAN MARK UP THE SUBCONTRACTORS.
10:37:38AM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT IS $100 MILLION CONTRACT AND GENERAL
10:37:44AM GETTING 5%.
10:37:45AM IF THEY MARKED IT UP -- IF THEY MARKED UP THE SUBS 20%.
10:37:48AM GETTING $20 MILLION.
10:37:51AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: RIGHT.
10:37:52AM THIS TO ME -- AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL.
10:37:54AM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE
10:37:58AM DOING ARE UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY
10:38:02AM PEOPLE WHO WILL DO MASSIVE WATER PIPE PROJECTS.
10:38:05AM SO MY SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE ON THOSE IS NONEXISTENT; HOWEVER,
10:38:11AM WHAT YOU ARE CALLING OUT FOR IS YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WANTS
10:38:14AM -- NEEDS THE WORK.
10:38:15AM YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PUTTING OUT THE BID, SO SOMETHING
10:38:18AM LIKE THAT, THE CRITERIA AROUND -- WE WANT EXPOSURE TO WHAT
10:38:21AM THE SUBS ARE.
10:38:22AM WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF ALL ELEMENTS OF THE COST.
10:38:26AM VERY REASONABLE TO ASK FOR.
10:38:28AM IF THEY ARE NOT USED TO HEARING THAT.
10:38:30AM THAT MAY BE THE PUSH BACK -- WE DON'T GET THAT QUESTION.
10:38:34AM BUT YOU ARE GETTING IT NOW.
10:38:36AM HONESTLY A SMART QUESTION OR INCREMENTS THE COST VERY
10:38:39AM QUICKLY.
10:38:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: OTHER THING TO LET YOU KNOW THE VARIETY O
10:38:42AM KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT.
10:38:44AM IN THE PAST WE WERE ASKED TO GENERALLY APPROVE CAPITAL
10:38:47AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR BUDGET.
10:38:49AM AND WHEN WE DID THAT, WE WERE TOLD, DON'T WORRY, YOU WILL
10:38:54AM HAVE SEVERAL BITES OF THE APPLE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT, BUT
10:38:57AM WHEN THE CONTRACTS CAME TO US, THEY SAID YOU APPROVED IT A
10:39:00AM YEAR AGO IN THE BUDGET, AND NOW IT IS AT THE LAST STAGE.
10:39:03AM WE ALREADY HAD A RFP AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE.
10:39:08AM THAT IS THE TYPE OF THING YOU WANT THE BUDGET ANALYST --
10:39:12AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: TO INTERCEDE ON, YES.
10:39:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST QUESTION.
10:39:15AM ANY KIND OF UNIQUE EXPERIENCE AT THE LAW FIRM THAT MIGHT BE
10:39:20AM APPLICABLE CONSIDERING THE SCENARIOS THAT I MENTIONED?
10:39:23AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I WILL SAY REALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,
10:39:26AM YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT HELPING A LOT WITH ACTUAL LEGAL CODE,
10:39:31AM BUT THERE WOULD BE TIMES WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND
10:39:35AM REVIEW INFORMATION AND THIS CAME MORE DOWN TO -- CONTRACT
10:39:40AM LAW PERSON.
10:39:40AM JUST ATTENTION TO DETAIL BEING ABLE TO PULL OUT WHAT IS
10:39:51AM RELEVANT.
10:39:52AM MOST OF THAT WAS PROBABLY NOT TO YOUR QUESTION OR
10:39:55AM APPLICABLE.
10:39:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:39:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH BEING HERE AND BEING SO KIND TO SHOW UP
10:40:02AM THIS MORNING AND MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:40:04AM VERY NICE.
10:40:04AM 94 TO 99.
10:40:11AM YOU WORK FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST FIRMS.
10:40:18AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: DELOITTE, YES.
10:40:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAVE YOU EVER DONE AN AUDIT WHERE YOU
10:40:23AM WERE THE SENIOR --
10:40:24AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: EVER DONE AN AUDIT --
10:40:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHERE YOU ARE THE SENIOR AUDITOR.
10:40:30AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I WAS THE SENIOR AUDITOR, I DID NOT GO FOR
10:40:33AM THE MANAGER LEVEL.
10:40:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID YOU THAT FOR A LARGER COMPANY KOPESKY
10:40:39AM YES.
10:40:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU WORKED FOR YOURSELF FOR FIVE YEARS
10:40:41AM WHICH IS A GREAT THING TO DO.
10:40:42AM AND YOU WORKED FOR A COMPANY NAMED HOME SHOPPING NETWORK.
10:40:47AM DO I KNOW THAT, THE PREDECESSORS TO AMAZON IN A WAY BUT TO A
10:40:51AM LIMITED SCOPE.
10:40:53AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: YES.
10:40:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BOUGHT A LOT OF THINGS BRAND OR WEST
10:40:58AM HILLSBOROUGH.
10:41:01AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: OUTLET STORES.
10:41:02AM WE WANTED YOU TO BUY ON TV, BUT THE OUTLET STORES.
10:41:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEMS ON BULK AND PUT IT ON TV AT A MARK
10:41:10AM -UP AND YOU HOPED THAT THEY MADE IT.
10:41:12AM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT AND I REMEMBER VOLUMINOUS THINGS
10:41:17AM THEY HAD.
10:41:17AM ITEMS OF JEWELRY THAT WEREN'T REALLY JEWELRY, JEWELRY.
10:41:21AM LOOKED LIKE JEWELRY, SOME VERY MINOR ONES BUT THE PRESIDENT
10:41:25AM THINGS THAT I WOULD WEAR LOOKED LIKE $1,000 AND COST YOU
10:41:28AM $10,000.
10:41:28AM MAKE BELIEVE BUT NICE-LOOKING STUFF.
10:41:32AM CLOTHING HAD A GREAT LINE AND THINGS OF SUITCASES AND OTHER
10:41:36AM THINGS, THEY HAD THEM BY THE TONS.
10:41:38AM IT WAS A GREAT TAMPA THAT WENT AWAY WHEN QVC BOUGHT IT.
10:41:43AM AND THAT WAS ME GOING THERE BECAUSE THE PRICES WENT UP
10:41:47AM BECAUSE HAD TO PAY FOR THE DIFFERENCE WHAT THEY BOUGHT IT
10:41:49AM FOR AND -- BUT IT'S -- THIS AUDITING POSITION IS MORE THAN
10:41:59AM FOLLOWING SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE COUNCIL TO
10:42:02AM YOURSELF TO FOLLOW MACHINE UP ON.
10:42:04AM IS IT AUDITING?
10:42:07AM IT IS CALLED AUDITING.
10:42:09AM BUT AN AUDIT IS WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND ENGAGE THE WHOLE
10:42:12AM SPECTRUM OF WHATEVER THE COST WAS TO DO THE RIGHT THING AT
10:42:15AM THAT DEPARTMENT.
10:42:16AM DID IT FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATION ALL MET ALL THE WAY
10:42:19AM THROUGH AND DID IT BALANCE OUT WHAT THEY SAID.
10:42:22AM AT THE END, CONCLUSION OF THE FACTS; HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE,
10:42:27AM THEY DID NOT AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
10:42:29AM HAD TO HAVE 30 TO 40 DAYS.
10:42:31AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: TO RESPOND TO IT.
10:42:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITH SPECULATION OR RESPECTS OF THE CITY
10:42:36AM AND WHATEVER THE ENTITY WAS.
10:42:38AM IN THIS CASE I SEE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN PART -- NOT IN
10:42:41AM TOTAL -- BUT IN PART, TO FOLLOW A LINE ITEM TO SEE IF IT
10:42:45AM JUMPED FROM SOMETHING TO SOMETHING ELSE.
10:42:47AM WAS A BID OUT.
10:42:49AM WAS IT THE BEST POSSIBLE BID THEY COULD GET.
10:42:53AM THE CONTROL OF THE CITY AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION TO
10:42:56AM FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADS WERE PAVED ACCORDING
10:42:59AM TO THE CONTRACT SPECIFICATION.
10:43:02AM SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:43:03AM I AM NOT SAYING IT IS IT, BUT BROAD FORM, IT IS MORE THAN
10:43:07AM LIKELY A PART OF THE MASSIVE THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:43:10AM SO IT IS INCUMBENT TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE CERTAINLY A
10:43:17AM GREAT BACKGROUND AND THIS IS ALL I GOT TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
10:43:24AM YOU WORKED FOR A LAW FIRM IN DADE CITY.
10:43:30AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: AS A HSN AS BRAND STILL EXISTS IF YOU WANT
10:43:35AM TO HIT THE STORES, THEY ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR YOU
10:43:39AM SHOPPING.
10:43:39AM LAW FIRM -- THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT I DID CHOOSE TO
10:43:42AM TAKE A LITTLE TIME OFF BETWEEN LEAVING QVC AND MOVING ON TO
10:43:47AM THE LAW FIRM.
10:43:48AM THAT WAS A GOOD WAY FOR ME TO KIND OF PUT MY TOE IN ON
10:43:53AM SOMETHING THAT KEPT YOUR BRAIN GOING AND I ENJOYED DOIN
10:43:56AM SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HAD DONE BEFORE.
10:43:58AM I THINK I TRIED TO MENTION IN INFORMATION I GAVE HR, AT THAT
10:44:03AM POINT I WAS TRYING TO LEAN A LITTLE MORE WITH MY PARENTS.
10:44:07AM AND JUST A NEED FOR ME TO REMAIN FLEXIBLE IN ORDER TO BE
10:44:10AM MORE AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
10:44:11AM THAT INFLUENCED SOME OF THAT TYPE OF DECISION MAKING.
10:44:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:44:17AM YES, MA'AM.
10:44:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
10:44:22AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: GOOD MORNING.
10:44:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
10:44:24AM I KIND OF LOOK AT THE ANALYST POSITION A LITTLE MORE
10:44:31AM HOLISTICALLY.
10:44:31AM IT COULD BE A CONTRACT, A LINE ITEM, A PROJECT OR EVEN AN
10:44:36AM ENTERPRISE BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT I, YOU
10:44:39AM KNOW, WOULD WANT THE BUDGET ANALYST TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
10:44:42AM SO IT IS A LITTLE MORE WHO WILL INCOME IS THAT REGARD FOR
10:44:45AM ME.
10:44:45AM I WANTED TO ASK YOU, HOW DO YOU SEEK -- WHAT WU DO IN YOUR
10:44:52AM FIRST 30 DAYS OF EMPLOYMENT?
10:44:54AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: SO I THINK THE FIRST THING GIVEN THAT I AM
10:44:57AM GOING TO NEED TO RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
10:45:00AM NATURE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE AND HOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY
10:45:03AM PROGRESSING.
10:45:03AM ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH -- I WILL SAY THE APPROPRIATE
10:45:09AM PARTY IN THE REVENUE AND FINANCE GROUP.
10:45:11AM BECAUSE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY MANAGING THE -- THE MONTH-IN,
10:45:16AM MONTH-OUT RECORDING ON WHAT IS HAPPENING.
10:45:18AM I NEED TO IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEMS BEING USED.
10:45:21AM SO I WILL TELL THAT YOU A GOOD PORTION OF THE TIME IN THE
10:45:25AM FIRST 30 DAYS FOR ME WOULD BE GETTING UP TO SPEED ON THAT.
10:45:28AM HOPEFULLY BEING ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION INDEPENDENTLY.
10:45:31AM I SAY THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE IF I NEED TO LEAN ON SOMEONE ELSE,
10:45:36AM THAT IS FINE.
10:45:36AM I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO ARE ACCESS THE
10:45:40AM SYSTEM INDEPENDENTLY.
10:45:42AM GET MY FEET WET WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
10:45:45AM UNDERSTANDING -- HONESTLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY ARE
10:45:51AM CURRENTLY DOING.
10:45:51AM I WANT TO HAVE EXPOSURE TO THE APPROPRIATE -- I WILL SAY
10:45:56AM APPROPRIATE LEAD.
10:45:57AM I REFER TO THEM AS THE OPERATION LEADS, BUT IF WE ARE
10:46:00AM SPENDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WATER, I WOULD
10:46:02AM LIKE TO KNOW A PERSON I HAVE AS A CONTACT THERE TO BE ABLE
10:46:05AM TO SPEAK TO UNDERSTAND, DO I HAVE THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT YOU
10:46:11AM ARE FOCUSED ON CORRECT.
10:46:12AM AND IF SO, LET'S TALK WHERE PROGRESS IS BECAUSE WILL HELP US
10:46:18AM BRING BACK THE STORY TO YOU.
10:46:19AM I CAN DIG IN THE NUMBERS ALL DAY LONG, BUT THE RISKS, THAT
10:46:23AM WILL HAPPEN TO HAVE ME HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE.
10:46:26AM SYSTEMS, RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE TWO GROUPS I TALKED ABOUT.
10:46:29AM AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING WITH YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT
10:46:35AM BE I THINK IF OF THE MEETING.
10:46:36AM SEVEN PEOPLE WITH IDEAS OF WHAT THEY THINK THEY WANT HERE.
10:46:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND WOULD BE BETTER TO DO
10:46:43AM AS A GROUP, AND SAY -- IF WE CASCADE FROM THE GOALS, THE
10:46:46AM FIVE GOALS, AND WE MOVE DOWN, AND WE CREATE WHAT WE BELIEVE
10:46:50AM ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT INITIATIVES THAT NEED FOCUS BECAUSE
10:46:53AM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.
10:46:55AM I WOULD WANT SOME SORT OF THAT IN TERMS OF GETTING IN YOUR
10:46:58AM MIND AROUND WHERE SOME OF THE THINGS LIE, BECAUSE I HAVE --
10:47:02AM I NEED TO HAVE SOME INITIAL DIRECTION WHERE YOU HAVE
10:47:04AM SPECIFIC CONCERNS.
10:47:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAD YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
10:47:07AM CHARTER?
10:47:09AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I HAVE NOT.
10:47:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT -- I ASKED A DIFFERENT QUESTION --
10:47:18AM BUT I WILL JUST USE A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
10:47:20AM I ASKED THE OTHER APPLICANT ABOUT SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS.
10:47:24AM SOMETHING PARTICULAR -- A PARTICULAR LINE ITEM OR A PROJECT
10:47:28AM THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AND ANALYZED.
10:47:32AM HOW WU GO ABOUT SEEKING OUT INFORMATION FOR A PARTICULAR
10:47:36AM PROJECT AND ANALYZING IT IN A WAY WHERE YOU CAN PRESENT IT
10:47:38AM TO ALL OF US.
10:47:39AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: OKAY, SO YOU STARTED OFF -- YOU DON'T MIND
10:47:43AM ME CLARIFYING.
10:47:45AM YOU SAY SOCIAL ACTION.
10:47:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS IS ONE I AM
10:47:49AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN.
10:47:50AM FUNDS WE GIVE TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
10:47:52AM AND THERE IS REALLY NO RHYME OR REASON RIGHT NOW HOW WE GET
10:47:56AM TO THOSE NUMBERS.
10:47:57AM WHY WE GIVE ONE ORGANIZATION ONE AMOUNT OVER ANOTHER AMOUNT.
10:48:03AM SOME OF THEM HAVE AGREEMENTS.
10:48:04AM SOME OF THEM DON'T.
10:48:06AM THAT IS SOMETHING I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN AS WE GO
10:48:09AM INTO THIS NEW CYCLE.
10:48:12AM I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT GATHERING THAT
10:48:17AM INFORMATION AND PRESENTING IT TO US.
10:48:18AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
10:48:20AM SOMETHING LIKE -- BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF
10:48:22AM RESEARCH INTO THE CRAs AND SOMETHING CALLED A FACADE PROJECT
10:48:26AM WHERE THING -- NO?
10:48:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY -- IT IS
10:48:30AM TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
10:48:32AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I THINK WHERE I WAS GOING WITH AN ATTEMPT
10:48:35AM TO USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, TO IMPROVE THE FACADE OF CERTAIN
10:48:39AM AREAS OF TAMPA, YBOR CITY AND SUCH.
10:48:41AM WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DRAW A PARALLEL TO, YOU WILL ASK ME HOW
10:48:46AM I WILL GO IN TO GET THE INFORMATION.
10:48:48AM YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET MY HANDS AROUND AN EXAMPLE SO
10:48:51AM I CAN SAY I WILL GO TO THE INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE.
10:48:54AM I -- SORRY, I AM STRUGGLING HERE AND NOT TRYING TO.
10:48:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S OKAY.
10:49:02AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: UP WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE IT
10:49:04AM IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT I THINK I HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT.
10:49:08AM FOR ME TANGIBLY TRYING TO GRAB ON TO AN EXAMPLE HELPS ME
10:49:12AM PROVIDE ONE BACK.
10:49:13AM I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S MATTER OF UNDERSTANDING, OKAY, WHAT
10:49:19AM ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS PARTICULAR -- IF IT IS A CAUSE
10:49:24AM OR FUNDING FOR CERTAIN THINGS, WHAT -- YOU KNOW, WHO ARE THE
10:49:27AM PEOPLE OR THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED SO I CAN UNDERSTAND
10:49:31AM EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT.
10:49:33AM AND THEN I SUPPOSE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE JUST BE A MATTER
10:49:37AM OF UNDERSTANDING HOW IS THIS FUNDING MADE AVAILABLE SO I
10:49:43AM HAVE -- WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY -- A -- A BASIS AROUND WHICH
10:49:48AM TO FRAME OUT WHAT THE LIMITATIONS FOR IT ARE.
10:49:50AM THAT WAS A HORRIBLE ANSWER.
10:49:52AM SO I AM SORRY.
10:49:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, YOU ARE COMING -- YOU DON'T KNOW OUR
10:49:56AM SYSTEM.
10:49:56AM SO EVEN I HAD TO LEARN SOME THINGS MYSELF.
10:49:59AM I AM STILL LEARNING.
10:50:01AM THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.
10:50:02AM I AM REALLY TRYING TO CAPTURE HOW YOU GO ABOUT SOLVING
10:50:06AM PROBLEMS.
10:50:06AM HAVE IS YOU EVER TAKEN A MYERS-BRIGGS SURVEY HIS OR HER
10:50:10AM ANYTHING THAT INDICATES YOUR LEADERSHIP OR PERSONALITY?
10:50:13AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: IT COMES BACK AS A PEOPLE-SERVING PERSON
10:50:16AM AND VERY MUCH A COMMUNICATOR.
10:50:18AM SO GETTING TO HOW WU DO THIS.
10:50:20AM YOU KNOW, I USUALLY AM TRYING TO FIND A PARTNER WHO HAS THE
10:50:24AM INFORMATION TO SO I CAN PROVIDE THE STORY BEHIND WHAT THE
10:50:28AM SITUATION IS.
10:50:30AM AND THEN AS FAR AS BRINGING -- THE THING -- THE THING THAT
10:50:34AM IS TRICKY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY FINANCE
10:50:37AM ORIENTED IS ALL THE WORKS HAPPENING BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
10:50:41AM THE NEED TO HAVE TO GO GRAB ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THE
10:50:45AM NEED TO HAVE IT UP TO A LEVEL WHERE IT IS MUCH CLEARER FOR
10:50:48AM TO YOU MAKE A DECISION, THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE JOB.
10:50:51AM DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SPECIFIC NEED IS A COMBINATION OF DATA
10:51:00AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE IS THE COG.
10:51:07AM THAT GETS TO THE EARLIER DISCUSSION AROUND WORK FLOWS AND
10:51:11AM UNDERSTANDING WORK FLOWS.
10:51:12AM THERE IS SOME DEGREE OF HOW THE INDIVIDUAL WORK TEAMS ARE
10:51:17AM FUNCTIONING IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE PROBLEM
10:51:21AM SOLVING.
10:51:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:51:22AM BEING SUPPORTIVE AND BEING DISAGREEABLE.
10:51:26AM YOU HAVE SEVEN PERSONALITIES, OF COURSE, UP HERE THAT WOULD
10:51:29AM HAVE TO WORK WITH.
10:51:30AM IF YOU DISAGREES WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER OR SOMEBODY BRINGING
10:51:34AM A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
10:51:35AM HOW WU PRESENT THAT TO US.
10:51:37AM AS A RECOMMENDATION OF THAT PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER.
10:51:41AM IF YOU ARE PRESENTING IT TO US.
10:51:43AM OR -- AND YOU AGREE WITH IT OR DISAGREE WITH TAMPA HOW WU GO
10:51:47AM ABOUT PRESENTING INFORMATION.
10:51:48AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: SO, I WOULD MOST LIKELY TRY TO DEAL WITH
10:51:53AM THE RESERVATIONS I HAD INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE PERSON WHO HAS
10:51:57AM THE CONFLICTING OPINION.
10:51:58AM PRIMARILY TO ENSURE THAT THAT PERSON UNDERSTANDS THE REASON
10:52:01AM WHY I AM CONCERNED OR THE REASON WHY I DON'T NECESSARILY
10:52:05AM AGREE 100% IS BECAUSE OF THIS.
10:52:07AM ONCE THAT IS ESTABLISHED AND THERE IS A CLEAR -- YOU KNOW, I
10:52:10AM GOT THAT.
10:52:10AM AND YOU HAVE GIVEN ME EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO TELL ME, I
10:52:13AM STILL FEEL LIKE THE GREATER GOOD FOR ME TO GO FORWARD, AT
10:52:16AM THAT POINT, I THINK, WHAT I PROBABLY WOULD BE INCLINED TO DO
10:52:21AM IS NOT POSITION THAT "I DON'T AGREE" I WANT TO MAKE SURE
10:52:26AM THAT HAD THE RESERVATIONS I HAVE WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE
10:52:28AM OTHERS SO THEY WOULD THINK THEM THROUGH.
10:52:31AM ULTIMATELY THE DECISION WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
10:52:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TAKES FOUR VOTES.
10:52:34AM YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:52:35AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:52:36AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: YES.
10:52:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:52:40AM CLOSING COMMENT WITH TWO MINUTES.
10:52:42AM GO A.
10:52:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAME QUESTION THE LAST APPLICANT.
10:52:47AM ANY QUESTIONS WE DIDN'T ASK OR ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO
10:52:50AM BRING FORWARD THAT WILL BE APPLICABLE?
10:52:53AM [BUZZER]
10:52:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE GOOD.
10:52:55AM KEEP GOING.
10:52:56AM YOU ARE GOOD.
10:52:57AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I THINK YOU COVERED QUITE A BIT.
10:52:59AM BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DISTILL
10:53:03AM IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY ONE -- ONE THING THAT YOU KNOW
10:53:09AM I COULD TO DO HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS CHARGE, WHAT
10:53:18AM WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS.
10:53:19AM I HAVE A GAP.
10:53:22AM THIS IS WHAT I WANTON SEE COMING FROM THAT POSITION.
10:53:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A QUESTION FOR US?
10:53:27AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: WELL -- I THOUGHT YOU SAID IF YOU HAVE ANY
10:53:30AM QUESTIONS.
10:53:30AM I WOULD INTERPRET IT AS LITERALLY -- THE REASON I SAY THAT
10:53:34AM IS JUST FROM A -- IT SOUNDS TO ME AS THOUGH WHAT WE HAVE
10:53:40AM TALKED ABOUT IS LIFTING THOSE COVERS.
10:53:42AM GETTING IN.
10:53:43AM BEING ABLE TO GO AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THINGS NEED TO BE
10:53:46AM PUSHED A LITTLE HARDER.
10:53:48AM AND THEN BRINGING THOSE BACK UP WITH GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:53:51AM THAT'S -- THAT IS WHAT I SEE AS BEING A PRIMARY REQUIREMENT
10:53:55AM OF THE POSITION.
10:53:56AM I JUST -- OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE
10:53:59AM STICKING FOR YOU THAT REALLY PROBABLY DROVE YOU TO SAYS IT
10:54:03AM TIME TO PUT THIS BUDGET POSITION.
10:54:06AM AND I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING THAT TIPPED YOU TO SAY R, IT
10:54:10AM IS TIME.
10:54:11AM FOR ME THE SIZE OF YOUR BUDGET.
10:54:12AM IT IS MASSIVE.
10:54:13AM TAMPA IS GROWING.
10:54:14AM IT HAS GOT SO MANY PROJECTS THAT THERE IS -- THE SHEER
10:54:19AM VOLUME OF THE WORK REQUIRES A DEDICATED RESOURCE.
10:54:21AM THAT IS MY OPINION.
10:54:22AM I AM ANSWERING THE QUESTION I PUT FORWARD TO YOU.
10:54:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP -- OVER A
10:54:27AM $2 BILLION BUDGET.
10:54:28AM NOT ONE OF US ARE BUDGET ANALYSTS.
10:54:32AM SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO RELY ON THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT
10:54:36AM WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF THESE ISSUES.
10:54:38AM WE LOOK FORWARD -- I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO
10:54:42AM INTERVIEW WITH US.
10:54:42AM IT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL AND I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK.
10:54:47AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THANK YOU.
10:54:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TWO-MINUTE CLOSING STATEMENT.
10:54:51AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO INTERVIEW
10:54:53AM ME FOR THIS POSITION.
10:54:54AM I ENJOYED LEARNING OF THE CITY OF TAMPA STRATEGIC GOALS AND
10:54:57AM THE MAKE MAKE-UP OF THE 2024 BUDGET.
10:54:59AM MY DESIRE TO LEARN AND ANALYTICAL BACKGROUND WILL MAKE ME
10:55:04AM THE BEST DEDICATED RESOURCE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO DO FURTHER
10:55:08AM ANALYSIS AND TRACKING FOR THE KEY AREAS AND INITIATIVES.
10:55:11AM DETAILS OF THIS POSITION EXCITE ME.
10:55:13AM I CONSIDERED SHIFTING INTO GOVERNMENT FOR A WHILE, AND I
10:55:16AM LOOK FORWARD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF
10:55:19AM TAMPA AND THIS GROUP, THE COUNCIL.
10:55:20AM FOR ME, WHEN SEEKING EMPLOYMENT, IT IS IDEAL TO FIND AN
10:55:24AM ENVIRONMENT, ONE THAT IS CHALLENGING.
10:55:26AM I THINK THIS ONE CHECKS THE BOX.
10:55:27AM SOMEWHERE THAT I CAN LEARN AND INFLUENCE.
10:55:30AM PERSONALLY SATISFYING BECAUSE THE WORK SERVING A MEANINGFUL
10:55:34AM PURPOSE.
10:55:35AM PART OF THE REASON WHY THE MOVE INTO GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN AN
10:55:38AM INTEREST TO ME.
10:55:38AM THREE, INCLUDES TEAMWORK ACROSS COLLEAGUES THAT PRIORITIZE
10:55:42AM THE COMMON INSTITUTIONAL MISSION.
10:55:44AM I BELIEVE THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL MEET THESE CRITERIA, BUT IN
10:55:48AM TURN, I WILL ADD SIGNIFICANT VALUE TO THIS LEADERSHIP TEAM.
10:55:51AM THANK YOU.
10:55:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:54AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THANK YOU.
10:55:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BE MR. HEBERLIEN.
10:56:02AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I RECOGNIZE HIM AND THAT MEANS IT IS TIME
10:56:05AM FOR ME TO GO.
10:56:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE CONCLUDED OUR
10:56:09AM CANDIDATES.
10:56:09AM WE HAVE A BALLOT IN FRONT OF US.
10:56:11AM IF COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD FILL OUT THE BALLOT.
10:56:14AM YOU PICK ONE --
10:56:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACTUALLY POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
10:56:19AM MELISSA JONES, WHILE SHE DID NOT APPEAR FOR AN INTERVIEW
10:56:24AM THIS MORNING, SHE DID NOT OFFICIALLY WITHDRAW.
10:56:27AM BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, WE WILL
10:56:29AM STILL RATE HERE BECAUSE SHE DID NOT WITHDRAW FROM
10:56:33AM CONSIDERATION.
10:56:33AM JUST .
10:56:35AM SHE SAID SHE CHOSE NOT TO INTERVIEW.
10:56:37AM GIVE THAT THE WEIGHT IT DESERVES.
10:56:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:56:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO CLARIFY -- OH, IT SAYS ONE BEING YOUR
10:56:44AM TOP SELECTION.
10:56:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN SCORE.
10:56:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT PUBLICLY
10:56:51AM WHAT WE OBSERVED?
10:56:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:56:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE AFTER
10:56:55AM LISTENING TO REGINA.
10:56:57AM I THOUGHT THIS A HIGH BAR TO CROSS.
10:56:59AM AND THEN HAGAR CAME BEFORE US AND WHICH -- MY GOODNESS, SO
10:57:04AM THIS IS INTERESTING.
10:57:05AM BECAUSE BOTH HAVE STRENGTHS.
10:57:08AM OBVIOUSLY, REGINA CAME WITH THIS INCREDIBLE BACKGROUND
10:57:12AM WITH USF AND GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE, BUT HAGAR COMES WITH THE
10:57:16AM PRIVATE SECTOR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, WHICH I FIND TO BE
10:57:22AM VERY VALUABLE.
10:57:23AM AND IT'S -- I -- I THOUGHT THAT -- WHEN HAGAR CAME, SHE
10:57:31AM SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE MORE WILLING TO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO
10:57:36AM SAY THIS, DIG INTO THINGS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVELY.
10:57:40AM I DON'T KNOW, I AM KIND -- I KIND OF WANT INSIGHT FROM YOU
10:57:43AM GUYS BECAUSE I AM SITTING ON THE FENCE.
10:57:44AM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT OF IT.
10:57:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
10:57:48AM I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
10:57:50AM AND I AGREE WITH THEM.
10:57:51AM I BELIEVE THE SECOND APPLICANT -- THERE WERE SPECIFIC
10:57:55AM QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.
10:57:56AM I THINK THE SECOND APPLICANT HAS A -- HAD A QUICKER RESPONSE
10:58:01AM AND BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE INDEPENDENT ROLE THAT IS
10:58:07AM INDEPENDENT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:58:09AM YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD REPORT TO US.
10:58:12AM A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR BUDGET.
10:58:14AM VERY SPECIFIC.
10:58:15AM ITEMS REGARDING THE PROCESS IN GENERAL.
10:58:18AM I -- I HONESTLY AM GOING TO GO WITH THE SECOND APPLICANT.
10:58:23AM I JUST FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY HIT THE GROUND
10:58:27AM RUNNING, I THINK THE SECOND CANDIDATE -- BOTH VERY, VERY
10:58:31AM QUALIFIED BUT THE SECOND INDIVIDUAL I THINK WENT ABOVE AND
10:58:34AM BEYOND IN MY OPINION AND WHO I WOULD BE SUPPORTING.
10:58:36AM YES, SIR.
10:58:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ONLY SAY LOOKING AT TWO OF THEM.
10:58:40AM ONE HAS MORE OF A BUDGETING.
10:58:41AM ONE HAS GOT MORE OF A ACCOUNTING DEGREE -- ACCOUNTING AND
10:58:46AM BUDGETING ARE THE SAME, BUT THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
10:58:48AM THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
10:58:50AM EVERYBODY CAN CHOOSE WHOEVER THEY WANT.
10:58:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, SO -- YES, MA'AM.
10:58:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO
10:58:56AM READVERTISE THE POSITION.
10:58:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR CLARIFICATION.
10:59:04AM SOMETHING IN THEIR QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU -- THAT THEY
10:59:07AM DIDN'T SEEM QUALIFIED OR --
10:59:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOTH LADIES WERE LOVELY, IT WASN'T THAT,
10:59:15AM I FELT THAT THIS PARTICULAR POSITION WE SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE
10:59:18AM OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK FOR A CERTAIN SET OF SKILLS THAT
10:59:22AM ARE DISPLAYED IN THEIR COMMUNICATION.
10:59:27AM THEIR ANSWERS WERE VERY GENERIC IN GENERAL.
10:59:30AM THE SECOND APPLICANT DID A LITTLE MORE HOMEWORK AND SHE WAS
10:59:34AM ABLE TO EX-PRESS SOME VIEWS AND OPINIONS REGARDING THE
10:59:37AM BUDGET, BECAUSE SHE TOOK A LOOK AT IT.
10:59:39AM THE FIRST APPLICANT DID NOT.
10:59:41AM WASN'T ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY PARTICULAR LINE ITEM IN GENERAL
10:59:47AM OR SPECIFICALLY THE SECOND APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO DO THAT TO
10:59:50AM A CERTAIN DEGREE.
10:59:51AM WHEN AGAIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHAT SHE LOOKED AT ON
10:59:56AM BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:59:58AM PRESENTED THE PALESTINE MEETING THAT DID NOT EXPRESSION ANY
11:00:02AM IDEAS REGARDING BUDGET OR A SITUATION WHERE SHE WAS ABLE TO
11:00:04AM EXPRESS A POINT OF VIEW SOMETHING THAT IS REGARDING BUDGET
11:00:11AM RELATED.
11:00:11AM SO SHE DID ADDRESS PIPES AND SHE ALSO ADDRESSED -- WHAT WAS
11:00:20AM THE OTHER ONE SHE ADDRESSED.
11:00:22AM PIPES AND -- FROM -- PIPES AND 10,000 UNITS FOR AFFORDABLE
11:00:33AM HOUSING.
11:00:33AM THOSE ARE GENERIC THINGS.
11:00:35AM IT DOESN'T MEAN SHE WAS -- IT MEANS SHE WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT
11:00:39AM THE BUDGET AND PICKED THOSE TWO THINGS TO TALK ABOUT BUT
11:00:44AM DON'T PER SE BELIEVE THAT IS ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
11:00:48AM DECISION.
11:00:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:00:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL RANKING, THESE THREE
11:00:54AM WERE NOT IN MY TOP TWO, THREE OR FOUR, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING
11:00:59AM FOR MORE, LIKE, BUDGET ANALYST BACKGROUND.
11:01:03AM SO I EXPECTED WHEN I WALKED IN TODAY TO HAVE THE SAME
11:01:06AM OPINION; HOWEVER, IN THE CONVERSATIONS, I AM VERY IMPRESSED
11:01:10AM WITH THE BACKGROUND.
11:01:10AM AND I THINK THEY ILLUSTRATED THEIR BACKGROUND FAR BEYOND
11:01:14AM WHAT IT SAYS ON THE PAPER.
11:01:15AM THE FIRST ONE HAS EXTENSIVE GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE.
11:01:20AM AND WITH -- WITH A UNIVERSITY THAT WAS A START-UP.
11:01:25AM AND NOW IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
11:01:27AM AND WAS INVOLVED IN VERY SOPHISTICATED PARTS OF THAT.
11:01:31AM AND SO IT WAS -- THE -- THE ANALYZING OR ANALYST PARTS OF IT
11:01:37AM WAS NEIGHBOR A MINORITY OF THE POSITION, BUT, IN A WAY, BOTH
11:01:41AM OF THESE ARE OVERQUALIFIED FOR THIS POSITION.
11:01:44AM SECOND ONE HAS EXTENSIVE PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE.
11:01:47AM YOU LOOK AT WORKING WITH WHAT APPEARS TO OBJECT A SMALL LAW
11:01:51AM FIRM, THAT CONTRASTS WITH BIG EXPERIENCE THAT SHE TALKED
11:01:54AM ABOUT WITH HSN AND QVC.
11:01:57AM SHE SHOWED SHE HAD A DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF BIG AND SMALL
11:02:01AM TRANSACTIONS THAT WENT ON THERE AND THEY ARE SOPHISTICATED
11:02:05AM ISSUES.
11:02:05AM I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR BACKGROUNDS.
11:02:08AM THE SECOND ONE SHOWED MORE INITIATIVE TO RESEARCH AND
11:02:14AM UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NUANCES.
11:02:19AM WHEN WE ALL STARTED IT TOOK US A LONG TIME TO COME UP TO
11:02:23AM SPEED ON EVERYTHING, BUT AT LEAST SHE SHOWED THE INITIATIVE
11:02:26AM TO DIG INTO IT.
11:02:27AM AND I THINK BOTH OF THEM SHOWED OBJECTIVITY.
11:02:31AM I LEAN TOWARD THE SECOND ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
11:02:34AM BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A BALANCE OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR
11:02:38AM EXPERIENCE IN HELPS US LOOK AT IT.
11:02:40AM THANK YOU.
11:02:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:02:43AM IF NOT, WE WILL FILL OUT OUR BALLOTS.
11:02:46AM DO WE HAVE -- MISS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES FOR THE TALLY.
11:02:55AM SHE TALLIES -- THERE WE GO. REMEMBER, ONE IS THE HIGHER --
11:03:04AM HIGHER RANKING.
11:03:06AM SHE CAN DO IT.
11:03:11AM IT'S FINE.
11:03:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK HR A SINCE THEY CAME HERE?
11:03:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:03:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE CONTRACT.
11:03:33AM ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT NEXT?
11:03:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO TALLY THE VOTES FIRST.
11:03:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: USUALLY IT TAKES A FEW MINUTES.
11:03:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS AUSTIN, WU LIKE TO COME UP.
11:03:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD I ASK MY QUESTION NOW OR WAIT.
11:03:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
11:03:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD THIS
11:03:55AM SITUATION WITH MARTY WHERE WHEN HE WAS HIRED, HE WAS GIVEN A
11:04:00AM CATEGORY THAT THEN WAS CHANGED.
11:04:02AM AS MAYORS CHANGE, SOMETIMES TITLES CHANGE.
11:04:05AM HE WASN'T SHIFTED INTO THE NEW CATEGORIES AUTOMATICALLY.
11:04:08AM HOW DO WE -- HOW CAN WE STRUCTURE THIS CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE
11:04:12AM THAT -- THAT IT SAYS, I THINK, AS HE WAS READING THE CHARTER
11:04:15AM THAT IT HAS TO BE CONNECTED TO EXISTING POSITIONS, BUT HOW
11:04:19AM CAN WE SET IT UP SO THAT THIS PERSON, IF THE TITLES CHANGE
11:04:23AM WON'T GET LEFT OUT AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE ADVANCEMENT OF
11:04:28AM PAY.
11:04:28AM WITHOUT US HAVING LONG DISCUSSIONS.
11:04:31AM >> THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME REVIEWS AND IF THE
11:04:35AM MAYOR DOES THE ACROSS THE BOARD, THEY WILL BE ENTITLED TO
11:04:39AM IT.
11:04:39AM NOT A CLASSIFIED POSITION.
11:04:41AM WE PUT THIS ONE AS APPOINTED UNCLASSIFIED FOR YOUR BENEFIT
11:04:45AM BECAUSE IT GIVES US MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE CANDIDATES
11:04:49AM WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH WAGE, HOURS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
11:04:52AM OUR APPOINTED UNCLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES GIVE A PERFORMANCE
11:04:58AM EVALUATION EVERY YEAR AND SUBJECT TO RAISE WITH THAT
11:05:01AM PERFORMANCE.
11:05:01AM THIS RAISE WOULD FALL INTO THE SAME.
11:05:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO IT AS GROUP ONCE A YEAR.
11:05:07AM >> SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO BE THE SUPERVISOR FOR -- YOU KNOW,
11:05:10AM FOR SUBMITTING THE PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL AND THAT WILL BE
11:05:14AM THE CHAIR.
11:05:14AM I AM SURE YOU WOULD HAVE INPUT BECAUSE THE CHAIR WOULD WANT
11:05:17AM THAT FOR YOU FROM A FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM
11:05:22AM YOU AND ONE EVALUATION THAT WILL COME ACROSS.
11:05:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:05:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVER A TIME WE READVERTISE A POSITION?
11:05:31AM I HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE.
11:05:31AM WHY WOULD WE DO THAT?
11:05:33AM >> WE CAN READVERTISE.
11:05:34AM WITH THIS PARTICULAR JOB, WE ADVERTISED WITH THE FLORIDA
11:05:37AM LEAGUE OF CITIES AND --
11:05:39AM >> THE FLORIDA COUNTY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.
11:05:44AM AND WE OBVIOUSLY ADVERTISED ON OUR WEB SITE AS WELL.
11:05:46AM >> WE CAN REPOST THERE OR WE CAN -- WE CAN EXPAND THAT IF
11:05:52AM THAT WAS THE PLEASURE.
11:05:53AM >> WE DID THE ONE PAID ADVERTISING AS WELL.
11:06:03AM THE FLORIDA GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
11:06:08AM THERE WAS ONE PAID ADVERTISING AS WELL ON THIS.
11:06:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO VOTE IF I DON'T HAVE
11:06:13AM A DECISION ON THE -- ON EITHER APPLICANT SO THAT IS WHAT IS
11:06:18AM MAKING THIS CHALLENGING FOR ME.
11:06:19AM HOW DO I HANDLE THAT IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE IT IS A
11:06:23AM VOTE?
11:06:26AM >> THIS IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE.
11:06:28AM IF A CANDIDATE IS NOT SELECTED AND YOU WANT US TO GO BACK
11:06:32AM AND REPOST IT AND EXPAND THE SEARCH, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT IF
11:06:35AM YOU ARE GOING TO ARRIVE AT A CONCLUSION WITH A CANDIDATE,
11:06:39AM THEN THE POSITION WILL BE FILLED WITH THAT CANDIDATE.
11:06:41AM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU ARE IN AN OPEN --
11:06:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PROVIDE CLARIFICATION.
11:06:49AM IF THE COUNCILWOMAN WISHES TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- FOR THE
11:06:54AM OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS TO CONSIDER, THAT WILL BE TIMELY TO DO
11:06:57AM THAT NOW.
11:06:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR -- A MOTION TO READVERTISE THE
11:07:00AM POSITION, YOU SAY?
11:07:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALMOST LIKE WE ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE TODAY
11:07:06AM ON ONLY TWO APPLICANTS.
11:07:08AM AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE WE ARE POSSIBLY
11:07:14AM PICKING, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BEST CANDIDATES POSSIBLE JUST
11:07:18AM BECAUSE WE WERE -- WE HAD TO, UNFORTUNATELY, NARROW IT DOWN
11:07:22AM BASED ON PAPER AND WHAT THEY HAVE WRITTEN FROM ALL OF THE
11:07:26AM APPLICANTS.
11:07:28AM AND WE ONLY GOT TO -- TO A TOP THREE.
11:07:31AM WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF INTERVIEWING A FEW
11:07:34AM MORE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THE JOB IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
11:07:38AM >> TO YOUR POINT THERE ARE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
11:07:41AM BECAUSE IF THIS WAS JUST A REGULAR -- IF THIS WHAT WAS
11:07:45AM POSITION IN MY DEPARTMENT AND BANK OF CANDIDATES AND
11:07:48AM INTERVIEWS THEM AND EXHAUSTED THE LIST.
11:07:50AM I WOULD SAY MY CANDIDATE IS JUST NOT THERE.
11:07:52AM I WILL GO BACK TO MAKE AND SAY, I WANT YOU TO REPOST THIS
11:07:56AM AGAIN AND BROADEN THE SEARCH AND BROADEN THE JOB DESCRIPTION
11:08:00AM AND CHANGE IT AND TAILOR.
11:08:03AM YOU HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THEORETICALLY THIS
11:08:06AM PERSON'S BOSS AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN A PUBLIC QUORUM, WE
11:08:10AM DON'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THE PROCEDURAL COMPONENT OF IT.
11:08:13AM FOR TO YOU DETERMINE, BUT THE CONCLUSION IS IF YOU WANT TO
11:08:18AM GO BACK, WE CAN DO THAT AND BROADEN THE SEARCH.
11:08:21AM IF YOU DECIDE ON A CANDIDATE TODAY, WE WILL HELP YOU GET
11:08:24AM THAT CANDIDATE HIRED.
11:08:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU TYPICALLY
11:08:27AM INTERVIEW FOR A POSITION AT THIS LEVEL?
11:08:30AM >> WELL, THIS, AGAIN, IS AN UNIQUE LEVEL.
11:08:32AM BUT I WOULD INTERVIEW SIX TO SEVEN PEOPLE AND WHAT OUR
11:08:36AM MANAGERS AND DIRECTORS TWO DO.
11:08:38AM HIGHER UP REPORTED UNCLASSIFIED POSITION, SOMETIMES THAT
11:08:41AM COULD BE LESS, BUT EVERYBODY DOES PUT A GOOD SEARCH OUT
11:08:45AM THERE AND LOOK.
11:08:45AM WE IS IT HAVE SOME PEOPLE OUT, I THINK.
11:08:47AM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS INTIMIDATING.
11:08:51AM I KNOW IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO APPLY FOR A JOB IN A
11:08:54AM PUBLIC QUORUM.
11:08:55AM A LITTLE UNIQUE.
11:08:56AM A COUPLE OF FINALISTS.
11:08:58AM ONE ACCEPTED ANOTHER POSITION IN THE CITY AND ONE I THINK
11:09:01AM BACKED OUT TODAY, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.
11:09:03AM YOU ARE DOWN TO THE TWO, AT THIS POINT.
11:09:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:09:09AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:09:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:09:12AM YOUR TURN.
11:09:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KIND OF SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT
11:09:17AM HAS BEEN A GOOD AND THOROUGH PROCESS AND NOT ALL OF THE
11:09:21AM CANDIDATES THAT WERE GIVEN US TO ORIGINALLY WERE THE
11:09:23AM QUALIFIED.
11:09:24AM BUT WE WENT THROUGH A LONG PROCESS WHERE WE EVALUATED THEM.
11:09:27AM AND -- AND BASED ON THEIR RESUMES AND THE ANSWERS.
11:09:31AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU USUALLY DO A QUESTIONNAIRE LIKE THAT.
11:09:35AM BUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE IS KIND OF A PROXY FOR A SET OF
11:09:37AM INTERVIEWS.
11:09:38AM IN A WAY WE HAVE INTERVIEWED THEM ALL ALREADY.
11:09:40AM BECAUSE WE GOT EXTENSIVE INFORMATION OF THE QUESTIONS WE
11:09:44AM WANTED ANSWERS.
11:09:44AM I THOUGHT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
11:09:47AM THE SHORT LIST I THOUGHT WAS GOOD TODAY.
11:09:49AM I WASN'T SURE WHETHER I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE TWO
11:09:54AM CANDIDATES, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THEY ARE BOTH VERY QUALIFIED.
11:09:57AM AND I AM SURPRISED CONSIDERING HOW PUBLIC THIS PROCESS IS
11:10:01AM THAT WE GOT TWO EXCELLENT CANDIDATES LIKE THAT.
11:10:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:10:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
11:10:08AM YES.
11:10:08AM I BELIEVE WE ARE MISSING ONE BALLOT.
11:10:11AM I AM INFORMED BY THE CLERK.
11:10:12AM SO I GUESS -- UNLESS -- AND I -- I WOULD AGREE WITH
11:10:18AM COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN AS TO THE PROCESS.
11:10:20AM CERTAINLY A MOTION MADE SUBJECT TO A SECOND AND VOTE OF
11:10:27AM COUNCIL WILL RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
11:10:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS OKAY.
11:10:30AM EVERYBODY ALREADY VOTED.
11:10:32AM TURNED IN THEIR BALLOT LIFE.
11:10:34AM THAT'S FINE.
11:10:35AM I AM SURE EVERYBODY WHO GETS THE POSITION WILL BE ABLE TO
11:10:37AM GROW INTO IT AND DO A FINE JOB.
11:10:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:10:40AM DO YOU HAVE A TALLY ON THE VOTES?
11:10:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST BE CLEAR.
11:10:51AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU SAID THAT THE THIRD CANDIDATE HAS
11:10:56AM NOT OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN AND YOU ARE SUBJECTING THAT PERSON
11:10:59AM BE INCLUDED IN THE RANKING.
11:11:01AM IS THAT YOUR REQUEST?
11:11:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT.
11:11:03AM WE HAVE IT -- AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, YOU KNOW -- SOME
11:11:08AM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.
11:11:09AM WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HIRING THIS BUDGET ANALYST
11:11:12AM FROM -- BEFORE I EVEN ENTERED COUNCIL.
11:11:15AM I KNOW A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
11:11:16AM SO WE PUSHED THIS AGENDA ITEM FORWARD.
11:11:18AM I BELIEVE THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY INCLUSIVE.
11:11:21AM WITH INPUT FROM ALL SEVEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WITH STAFF,
11:11:27AM WITH HR, WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND THE ADMINISTRATION
11:11:32AM AND OUR ATTORNEYS.
11:11:33AM WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROCESS.
11:11:35AM WHEN WE DID THIS, WE -- NOT ONLY DID WE GET THE APPLICANTS
11:11:40AM AND THE ADMINISTRATION, RANK THE APPLICANTS BASED ON THEIR
11:11:44AM APPLICATION TO GET THE MOST -- TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:11:46AM APPLICANTS WE ARE CONSIDERING WERE QUALIFIED BASED ON THE
11:11:51AM DESCRIPTION WE ADVERTISED AS COUNCIL.
11:11:52AM THAT WAS DONE OUTSIDE OF OUR HANDS INDEPENDENTLY BY THE
11:11:57AM ADMINISTRATION.
11:11:57AM HR RANKED THESE FOLKS AS QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION.
11:12:01AM ON TOP OF THAT WE DID -- AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON CLARIFIED, WE
11:12:06AM SUBMITTED QUESTIONNAIRES TO THE APPLICANTS THAT THEY GAVE
11:12:09AM WRITTEN ANSWERS TO WHICH, BY PROXY, WAS ALMOST AN INTERVIEW
11:12:14AM PROCESS AS WELL.
11:12:15AM WE HAVE AN DAY ONE DANCE OF INFORMATION AND ON TOP OF THAT
11:12:19AM TO MAKE THIS EVEN MORE ARDUOUS FOR THE APPLICANT, WE PUT
11:12:22AM THEM FORWARD ON A PODIUM ON CAMERA IN A PUBLIC QUORUM AS WAS
11:12:27AM JUST DISCUSSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE JOB
11:12:30AM DESCRIPTION.
11:12:30AM I AM VERY SATISFIED ESPECIALLY AS A STEWARD OF PUBLIC
11:12:34AM INTEREST THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ACTED IN -- IN PRESIDENT BEST
11:12:39AM INTEREST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE PUBLIC IN HIRING THIS
11:12:42AM POSITION AND MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
11:12:45AM HIGHEST AND BEST RATED CANDIDATE AND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD
11:12:48AM WITH THIS POSITION TODAY.
11:12:49AM SO I AM EXCITED ABOUT IT.
11:12:52AM I CONGRATULATE ALL SEVEN MEMBERS BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS BEEN
11:12:56AM VERY RESETTLEMENT I HAVE IT AS OUR OFFICE PUT INFORMATION.
11:13:00AM I WANT TO APPLAUD MY AIDE, TIM HEBERLIEN AND LISA FOR MOVING
11:13:07AM THIS FORWARD AND HR WITH THEIR ADVICE AND COUNCIL ON THIS,
11:13:11AM THANK YOU ALL.
11:13:11AM AND THE LEGAL STAFF.
11:13:13AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:13:14AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ANOTHER EMPLOYEE SO THE NEXT
11:13:17AM BUDGET CYCLE WILL HOPEFULLY BE A LITTLE BIT LESS PAINFUL
11:13:21AM THAN THE LAST.
11:13:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A FINAL TALLY.
11:13:24AM >>CLERK: YES.
11:13:25AM SO CARLSON VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD.
11:13:29AM HAGAR KOPESKY, FIRST.
11:13:31AM SIEWERT SECOND.
11:13:34AM HURTAK VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD.
11:13:37AM HAGAR KOPESKY, FIRST.
11:13:40AM SIEWERT SECOND.
11:13:43AM CLENDENIN VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD.
11:13:45AM HAGAR KOPESKY, FIRST.
11:13:48AM SIEWERT, SECOND.
11:13:50AM HENDERSON VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD; HAGAR KOPESKY, SECOND;
11:13:57AM AND SIEWERT, FIRST.
11:13:58AM VIERA VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD; HAGAR KOPESKY, SECOND;
11:14:05AM SIEWERT, FIRST.
11:14:06AM MIRANDA VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD; HAGAR KOPESKY, SECOND;
11:14:11AM SIEWERT, FIRST.
11:14:13AM MELISSA JONES RECEIVED A TOTAL --
11:14:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT ME?
11:14:22AM >>CLERK: VIERA VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD.
11:14:25AM HAGAR KOPESKY, SECOND.
11:14:26AM SIEWERT, FIRST.
11:14:28AM MANISCALCO VOTED MELISSA JONES, THIRD.
11:14:30AM HAGAR KOPESKY, FIRST.
11:14:32AM SIEWERT, SECOND.
11:14:34AM AND MIRANDA, MELISSA JONES, THIRD; HAGAR KOPESKY, SECOND; AND
11:14:42AM SIEWERT. FIRST.
11:14:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LOWEST NUMBER IS THE WINNER.
11:14:47AM >>CLERK: SO THE WINNER.
11:14:51AM HAGAR RECEIVED THE FOUR FIRST-RANKED VOTES.
11:14:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
11:14:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT YET, SO NOW WITH THE PROCESS WILL BE
11:15:04AM --HR WILL MEET WITH THE APPLICANT.
11:15:06AM AND PRESENT A JOB OFFER.
11:15:09AM AND WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEIR ACCEPTANCE BEFORE WE -- DO YOU
11:15:14AM HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
11:15:14AM >> BEFORE WE CAN DO THAT, WE REALLY NEED TO NARROW DOWN WHAT
11:15:17AM THAT SALARY WILL BE.
11:15:19AM THAT IS A PART OF THE OFFER.
11:15:20AM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD CONNECT WITH THE CLEAR TO TRY
11:15:23AM TO NARROW DOWN WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
11:15:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
11:15:29AM >> MIKE SWAIN, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES.
11:15:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THE CLEAR OR IF YOU
11:15:34AM WANT -- YOU WANT ME INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL, WE COULD GO
11:15:38AM BASED ON JOB EXPERIENCE, WHICH I ASSUME YOU ALL HAVE AMPLE
11:15:44AM EXPERIENCE OF SETTING SALARIES BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE AND
11:15:47AM WHAT THE SALARY RANGE OF THIS COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SET.
11:15:50AM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING BETWEEN -- BETWEEN THOSE OF US TO
11:15:54AM DO THAT.
11:15:54AM THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE, BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
11:15:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DO YOU WANT THE ANSWER FOR THE
11:15:59AM SALARY.
11:15:59AM TAKE A RECESS.
11:16:01AM >> WE CAN DO THAT NOW.
11:16:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY -- THE CANDIDATE THAT RANKED
11:16:07AM FIRST, THERE IS PROBABLY A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE PAY IN HER
11:16:11AM PREVIOUS POSITION AND THE PAY IN THE CURRENT POSITION.
11:16:13AM AND ON HER EXPERIENCE.
11:16:15AM IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE MORE SAY PROP YACHT TO LOOK AT
11:16:18AM WHAT HER PRIOR EXPERIENCE WAS.
11:16:19AM BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS CURRENT POSITION IS A WAY POINT
11:16:22AM TO SOMETHING ELSE.
11:16:23AM >> I WOULD SAY CUMULATIVE.
11:16:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
11:16:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PART-TIME OFFICE MANAGER.
11:16:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
11:16:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL RESPECTIVELY REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE A
11:16:37AM MOTION AS A COUNCIL RATHER THAN ON THE BASIS OF A BALLOT
11:16:41AM THAT IS PUBLICLY HERE AT THIS MEETING WITH REGARD FOR THAT
11:16:44AM POSITION.
11:16:45AM AND SO IT IS -- IT IS -- NOT ONLY IS IT ON THE RECORD AS
11:16:50AM PUBLIC RECORDS AS TO WHAT THE TALLY WAS, BUT IT IS A MOTION
11:16:55AM OF COUNCIL WITH THAT APPOINTMENT.
11:16:58AM OR THE RECOMMENDATION TO WORK WITH A DIRECTION TO --
11:17:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GOT IT.
11:17:03AM I MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL DIRECTS HR TO PRESENT A JOB
11:17:09AM OFFER AND SET SALARY FOR HAGAR KOPESKY AS A BUDGET ANALYST
11:17:13AM POSITION REPORTING TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:17:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:17:17AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:17:20AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:17:20AM OPPOSED?
11:17:22AM MR. HEBERLIEN, WILL YOU --
11:17:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RECESS --
11:17:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
11:17:30AM A 15-MINUTE RECESS?
11:17:34AM ALL RIGHT, 15-MINUTE RECESS.
11:41:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE SPECIALLY
11:41:14AM CALLED MEETING TO ORDER.
11:41:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
11:41:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
11:41:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
11:41:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
11:41:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
11:41:21AM CLERK WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
11:41:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:41:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
11:41:28AM MARTIN SHELBY.
11:41:29AM I'M HERE ON NUMBERS 2, 3 AND 4 AND WOULD LIKE TO COMBINE
11:41:33AM THEM ALL PRIMARILY FOCUSSING ON ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:41:37AM TAKE UP ITEMS 2 AND 4 AS WE MOVE ALONG.
11:41:39AM COUNCIL, I HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU -- EXCUSE ME -- GROUND RULES
11:41:43AM FOR TODAY'S TEAM.
11:41:44AM LIKE SPEED DATING.
11:41:45AM I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
11:41:48AM BUT HAVE SOME ACTION ITEMS TO COME BACK WITH YOU.
11:41:50AM NO DISCUSSION UNTIL A MOTION AND A SECOND ARE ON THE FLOOR.
11:41:57AM SO IF AN ITEM DOES NOT HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, IT DOES NOT
11:42:01AM GET DISCUSSED.
11:42:02AM IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING, THEN PUT A
11:42:05AM MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT.
11:42:07AM IF THERE IS NO MOTION AND A SECOND, THE ITEM GETS CROSSED
11:42:12AM OFF.
11:42:12AM SO NO REAL MOTION TO DENY.
11:42:14AM YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH 71 ITEMS.
11:42:20AM IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE PAPER CLIPPED
11:42:23AM GROUP, YOU HAVE THE RULES IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:42:26AM SAYS NO MOTION AND A SECOND MEAN THE NUMBERED ITEM IS
11:42:29AM REJECTED AND I WILL CROSS IT OFF.
11:42:31AM IF IT GETS A MOTION AND A SECOND, THEN IT WILL BE DISCUSSED.
11:42:35AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:42:36AM EACH HAVE ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
11:42:39AM THE MOTION.
11:42:39AM A MAJORITY VOTE OF FOUR OR MORE MEANS THE ITEM COMES BACK IN
11:42:43AM A FUTURE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
11:42:46AM NOW AS YOUR RULES STATE, THE RESOLUTION IS REQUIRED BY A
11:42:50AM COUNCIL RULE TO BE READ AND VOTED AT TWO SEPARATE REGULAR
11:42:56AM MEETINGS FOR ADOPTION.
11:42:56AM SO WHAT IT WILL BE SOMEBODY SUFFICIENT NOTICE AND ANYTHING
11:43:00AM THAT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED OR CHANGED, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO
11:43:03AM THAT.
11:43:03AM GOAL TODAY IS TO MOVE THROUGH THESE ITEMS.
11:43:06AM I WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED IN SPEAKING WITH
11:43:09AM ME AND OFFERING SUGGESTIONS.
11:43:11AM HE WANT TO THANK -- PARTICULARLY I WANT TO AGAIN THANK LISA
11:43:21AM AND SUELING.
11:43:22AM AND THE CHAIR FOR HIS LEADERSHIP.
11:43:23AM HE IS THE ONE THAT MADE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I TALK TO
11:43:27AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:43:27AM PEOPLE HAVE VOICED HIS SUGGESTIONS MUCH NOT ONLY
11:43:32AM COUNCILMEMBER, STAFF MEMBERS, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, LEGAL
11:43:35AM OFFICE, AND YES, YOU HAVE A COMPILATION OF EVERYTHING.
11:43:40AM IF WE MOVE THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.
11:43:43AM PAGE TWO, I GROUPED SEVEN AND EIGHT TOGETHER.
11:43:46AM YOU LOOK AT PAGE THREE, ONE THROUGH FOUR ARE GROUPED
11:43:51AM TOGETHER UNDER THE SUBJECT OF SPEAKER CARDS.
11:43:53AM FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN ARE TALKING OF THE PHONE-IN OPTION.
11:43:56AM WE CAN TALK OF WEB-BASED SIGN-IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:44:00AM STAFF REPORTS.
11:44:01AM I HAVE GROUPED THEM THERE.
11:44:03AM PROCEDURES, GROUPED ONE, TWO AND THREE.
11:44:06AM I AM TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
11:44:08AM THERE WAS A LATE ADDITION, COUNCIL, AFTER THIS MOTION ON
11:44:14AM PAGE FOUR, PROCEDURES.
11:44:16AM ITEM ASKED TO BE TAKEN UP IS NUMBER 12 FOR PROCEDURES.
11:44:20AM AND WHAT THAT SAYS IS -- THE SUGGEST WAS, OTHER THAN --
11:44:25AM OTHER THAN COMMENDATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS, NO ITEM SHALL BE
11:44:28AM MOVED OR PLACED ON THE AGENDA AHEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:44:31AM SO THAT IS A SUGGESTION THAT WE CAN HAVE AS NUMBER 12.
11:44:35AM WE WILL TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT.
11:44:37AM ALSO, IF WE CAN TAKE UP ITEM 50 WHEN WE GET TO PROCEDURES.
11:44:44AM AND WHAT WE WILL DO NOW TO BEGIN WITH.
11:44:48AM THE FIRST ITEM IS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
11:44:51AM THE PROPOSED REVISED ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR REGULAR MEETING
11:44:55AM AGENDAS.
11:44:55AM I HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY CLERK.
11:44:57AM I HAVE WORKED WITH THE CLEAR'S OFFICE.
11:45:00AM WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A NEW ORDER OF BUSINESS.
11:45:04AM LETTERS A THROUGH R.
11:45:07AM I CAN GO THROUGH THEM INDIVIDUALLY IF THERE IS A MOTION AND
11:45:10AM A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
11:45:11AM THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION.
11:45:12AM AND TO BE TAKEN AS A PACKAGE, NOT INDIVIDUALLY.
11:45:16AM THAT IS THE ENTIRE --
11:45:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REVISED ORDER
11:45:21AM OF BUSINESS.
11:45:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL TAKE IT.
11:45:23AM I AM THERE WITH YOU.
11:45:24AM I WANT YOU TO GET OUT OF HERE AS SOON AS YOU WANT TO.
11:45:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:45:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE MOTION?
11:45:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO ACCEPT ITEMS A- R AS THEY ARE.
11:45:35AM THAT IS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
11:45:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, I CAN
11:45:41AM TALK SOME OF THEM.
11:45:42AM I ADDED BOARD APPOINTMENTS.
11:45:45AM NEW AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN NEEDED.
11:45:47AM THE TIME FOR HEARINGS HAVE CHANGED.
11:45:49AM PUBLIC HEARING ARE SET FOR 10 A.M. NOW, REALLY REFLECTING
11:45:54AM MORE REALISTIC TIME.
11:45:55AM PETITIONS TO VACATE AND PUBLIC HEARINGS ON LEGISLATIVE
11:45:59AM MATTERS ARE SET FOR -- SET FOR 10:0 A.M.
11:46:03AM WHAT IS NEW NOW THAT PUBLIC HEARINGS ON MATTERS FOR REVIEW,
11:46:07AM AGAIN IT CODIFIES THAT WE LIMIT TO TWO PER MEETING AND SET
11:46:10AM FOR THE FIRST ITEMS WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM LUNCH.
11:46:13AM ORDINANCES BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION
11:46:16AM ARE FOR BRIEF REPORTS BY STAFF.
11:46:19AM THEY HAVE A GENERAL PRESENTATION TIME LIMITS.
11:46:22AM JUST A REMINDER, THE GOAL HERE, COUNCIL, IS OTHER THAN
11:46:26AM PUBLIC HEARINGS IS NOT TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT HERE IN THE
11:46:29AM CHAMBERS IN THE MORNING UNLESS THINGS MOVE SO QUICKLY THAT
11:46:33AM THEY ARE ADVANCED TO COME IN.
11:46:34AM SO THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE TO LOSE 5% OF THEIR PRODUCTIVITY
11:46:39AM BY DOING HERE IN THE MORNING TO WAIT FOR THINGS TO COME IN
11:46:43AM THE AFTERNOON.
11:46:44AM I WORKED OVER THE TIME WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO BE ABLE TO
11:46:47AM EFFECTIVELY MAKE STAFF TIME MORE EFFECTIVE HERE.
11:46:51AM SO THAT BEING -- IF THERE IS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE,
11:46:56AM WE CAN BEGIN.
11:46:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK ITS GREAT AND HAPPY TO SUPPORT
11:46:59AM IT.
11:47:00AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:47:03AM AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:04AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:47:05AM OPPOSED.
11:47:06AM THERE.
11:47:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:47:09AM A BIG THING DOWN.
11:47:10AM AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFICIENCY AND IMPROVEMENTS.
11:47:13AM FIRST FOR COMMENDATIONS.
11:47:14AM YOU CAN SEE 7 AND 8 ARE GROUPED.
11:47:16AM IF WE START WITH NUMBER 1, IF IT IS AGREED UPON OR SOMEBODY
11:47:22AM WISHES TO MAKE A MOTION, IT GOES ON THE FLOOR.
11:47:24AM IF IT DOESN'T GET A SECOND, IT FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND
11:47:27AM AND WE CROSS IT OFF AND WE MOVE ON.
11:47:29AM AND --
11:47:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE TALKING OF 7 AND 8.
11:47:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 7 AND 8 -- DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO TAKE
11:47:37AM 7 AND 8.
11:47:38AM FOR INSTANCE, NUMBER 1, A MOTION TO PUNT IT ON THE FLOOR, WE
11:47:41AM CAN HAVE IT.
11:47:42AM IF NOT, NO MOTION OR SECOND, THEN I CROSS IT OFF.
11:47:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
11:47:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:47:48AM IS THERE A SECOND.
11:47:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:47:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW FOR THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSE, IT IS -- I
11:47:55AM SHOULD PUT IT DOWN HERE VERY QUICKLY.
11:47:56AM THAT IS -- YOU KNOW WHAT, HE ANOTHER COPY OF THIS.
11:48:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT MAXIMUM
11:48:04AM AT THE BEGINNING OF IT.
11:48:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS NUMBER 2.
11:48:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO OKAY.
11:48:09AM ACTUALLY THAT -- IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT NUMBER 2 --
11:48:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GIVE US ONE SECOND.
11:48:14AM I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMBINE THIS INTO ONE MOTION
11:48:18AM AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN.
11:48:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY DON'T WE.
11:48:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE CAN DO IT AS A GOES.
11:48:26AM AND LATER ON BRING IT BACK --
11:48:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS ONE.
11:48:31AM SURE.
11:48:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST ONE IS THREE TOTAL OF COMMENDATIONS
11:48:35AM PER MEETING INCLUDING POLICE, THE FIRE AND THE ATU.
11:48:39AM YOU NEVER WILL GO MORE THAN THREE COMMENDATIONS ON YOUR
11:48:42AM CALENDAR.
11:48:43AM AND, BY THE WAY, I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, JUST SO YOU
11:48:48AM KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS NOW, THE CLERK HAS
11:48:52AM INCLUDED THE NAME OF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION SO YOU KNOW HOW
11:48:54AM MANY STAFF REPORTS ARE NOW AT THE MOTION OF THE PARTICULAR
11:49:00AM COUNCIL MEMBER WHO MAKES THEM.
11:49:02AM YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF WHO MADE THE MOTION AND
11:49:05AM HOW MANY ARE ON A THE AGENDA, ON THE CALENDAR FOR FUTURE
11:49:08AM MEETINGS.
11:49:08AM OKAY, I AM DONE TALKING.
11:49:10AM THREE TOTAL PER MEETING INCLUDING POLICE, FIRE AND ATU.
11:49:14AM A MOTION.
11:49:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
11:49:17AM >> SECOND.
11:49:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN MOTION AND SECOND.
11:49:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE MOTION, PLEASE.
11:49:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER ONE.
11:49:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE SHOULD SAY EVERYTHING IN ITS ENTIRELY
11:49:28AM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PAPERS IN FRONT OF HIM.
11:49:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A FAIR COMMENT.
11:49:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WILL BE THREE TOTAL COMMENDATIONS
11:49:34AM INCLUDING POLICE, FIRE AND ATU.
11:49:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, SHARE.
11:49:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:49:42AM OPPOSED?
11:49:44AM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:49:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 2, MAXIMUM OF ONE IN-PERSON
11:49:49AM COMMENDATION OTHER THAN UNION PER REGULAR MEETING.
11:49:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION.
11:49:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:49:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WOULD MEAN
11:50:00AM IF THERE IS NO ATU AND JUST POLICE AND FIRE, WE WOULD HAVE
11:50:03AM ONE COMMENDATION.
11:50:04AM SO IT NEVER REACHES MORE THAN THREE IN ANY MEETING.
11:50:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON.
11:50:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:50:11AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:50:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN NUMBER 3, ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER PER
11:50:19AM MEETING, NOT COUNTING POLICE, FIRE AND ATU.
11:50:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS WOULD BE IRRELEVANT NOW BECAUSE OF
11:50:25AM THE TWO MOTIONS WE JUST PASSED.
11:50:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
11:50:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICE OFFICER
11:50:32AM OF THE MONTH OR FIRE FIGHTER --
11:50:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAXIMUM OF ONE IN-PERSON COMMENDATION.
11:50:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS NOT NECESSARY.
11:50:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STRIKE 3.
11:50:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CROSS IT OFF ON THE SCREEN SO THE PUBLIC
11:50:47AM KNOWS AS WELL.
11:50:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT AN X ON 3.
11:50:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE SAYING THE NET EFFECT WILL BE --
11:50:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CORRECT.
11:50:56AM SET TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER AND SET MAXIMUM.
11:51:00AM >> SO MOVED.
11:51:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THAT TIME LIMIT?
11:51:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT THREE MINUTES?
11:51:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN DECIDE THAT LATER ORDINANCE MANISCALCO
11:51:06AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:51:07AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:51:09AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
11:51:10AM ANY OPPOSE?
11:51:11AM ITEM NUMBER 4, LOOK AT CALENDAR BEFORE --
11:51:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS NUMBER 5, SIR, SORRY.
11:51:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOK AT CALENDAR BEFORE PRESENTING A
11:51:21AM DATE IN-PERSON HAD, PERSON OR OFF-SITE INSTEAD.
11:51:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
11:51:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOK AT A CALENDAR.
11:51:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU MAKE A MOTION -- DISCUSS IT AMONG
11:51:31AM YOURSELVES.
11:51:32AM MAYBE I WILL BE QUIET --
11:51:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION.
11:51:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
11:51:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:51:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW --
11:51:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
11:51:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 5.
11:51:46AM YES?
11:51:47AM COUNCILMAN VIERA?
11:51:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
11:51:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SECOND IT.
11:51:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:51:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SHELBY.
11:51:58AM WHAT IS THE AFFECT OF THIS?
11:51:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE AFFECT OF THIS IS THAT YOUR CALENDAR
11:52:02AM TELLS YOU WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED.
11:52:04AM WHAT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU IS WHAT ALREADY HAS BEEN SCHEDULED
11:52:08AM AT THE SAME MEETING THAT YOU ARE SITTING IN.
11:52:11AM RIGHT, IF SOMEBODY PREVIOUSLY MADE A MOTION AND INCUMBENT
11:52:14AM AND SIMILAR TO IT LATER ON TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR BEFORE
11:52:17AM PRESENTING A DATE.
11:52:18AM IF YOU WANT A PARTICULAR DATE BUT IT HAS ALREADY BEEN FULL,
11:52:22AM YOU HAVE TO REVIEW THE CALENDAR TO PICK A DATE THAT YOU
11:52:25AM WILL, OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO IT OFF-SITE.
11:52:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:52:30AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:52:30AM OPPOSED?
11:52:33AM MR. SHELBY, YES, LIMITED ONLY MATTERS RELATED TO THE CITY OF
11:52:38AM TAMPA.
11:52:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 6.
11:52:40AM SUGGESTION IS TO LIMIT IN-PERSON COMMENDATIONS DURING
11:52:44AM COUNCIL MEETINGS AS OPPOSED TO, LET'S SAY, AN OFF-SITE
11:52:48AM COMMENDATION TO THOSE MEETINGS -- TO THE MEETINGS IN THE
11:52:51AM CHAMBER TO ONLY MATTER RELATED DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF
11:52:55AM TAMPA.
11:52:55AM IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND?
11:52:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION OR A SECOND?
11:53:02AM WHERE DID HE GO?
11:53:04AM >> RIGHT HERE.
11:53:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LIKE A FOXHOLE.
11:53:09AM I NEVER REALIZED.
11:53:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD STRIKE THAT.
11:53:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S STRUCK.
11:53:13AM FAILS FOR --
11:53:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, 7 AND 8 ARE BUNDLED.
11:53:21AM YES, MA'AM.
11:53:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A QUESTION.
11:53:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PUBLIC --
11:53:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: READ IT MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:53:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STRIKING ITEM NUMBER 6 LIMIT IN-PERSON
11:53:42AM COMMENDATIONS TO ONLY MATTERS RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:53:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW YOU HAVE 7 AND 8 TOGETHER.
11:53:48AM NUMBER 7 IS AN IN-PERSON COMMENDATION REQUIRES A MEMO TO
11:53:52AM COUNCIL STATING WHO OR WHY IN ADVANCE OF THE MOTION
11:53:54AM REQUESTING THE COMMENDATION.
11:53:56AM A RELATED BUT SOMEWHAT REPHRASED WAS ALSO OFFERED.
11:54:00AM THAT IS NUMBER 8.
11:54:01AM SAYS REQUIRE A MEMORANDUM TO CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED IN
11:54:04AM ADVANCE OF A MOTION SEEKING AN IN-PERSON COMMENDATION NOT
11:54:07AM RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS EXPLAINING THE BACKGROUND OF THE
11:54:11AM PERSON FOR WHOM THE COMMENDATION IS SOUGHT AND WHY AN
11:54:14AM IN-PERSON PRESENTATION IS REQUESTED INSTEAD OF BEING
11:54:17AM PRESENTED OFF-SITE.
11:54:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO STRIKE NUMBER 7, AND ACCEPT
11:54:22AM NUMBER 8.
11:54:22AM >> SECOND MA MINNESOTA MANISCALCO A MOTION TO STRIKE ITEM
11:54:25AM NUMBER 7 AND KEEP NUMBER 8, CORRECT?
11:54:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:54:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
11:54:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:54:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DISCUSSION IF THERE IS.
11:54:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION?
11:54:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STRIKE 7 AND ACCEPT 8.
11:54:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MEANING A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL SEND A
11:54:55AM MEMO IN ADVANCE I WANT TO DO A COMMENDATION.
11:54:58AM THIS IS WHO IN INDIVIDUAL AND ENTITY IS AND THIS IS WHY.
11:55:01AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:55:02AM OPPOSED?
11:55:03AM ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 7 HAS BEEN STRUCK.
11:55:06AM ITEM NUMBER 8 HAS A GO TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:55:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 9.
11:55:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:55:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 9 IS A GENERALIZATION.
11:55:13AM EVERY EFFORT SHOULD BE MADE TO PRESENT COMMENDATION
11:55:17AM OFF-SITE.
11:55:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:55:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY NOT BE NECESSARY --
11:55:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:55:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:55:25AM SINCE WE ARE SENDING A MEMO AHEAD OF TIME, THAT WOULD
11:55:29AM SUFFICE FOR EVERY --
11:55:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONLY FOR IN-PERSON.
11:55:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONLY FOR IN-PERSON.
11:55:37AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND IN A MEMO TO DO IT OFF-SITE.
11:55:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION TOO.
11:55:44AM A STATEMENT MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
11:55:46AM I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE COUNCIL
11:55:48AM MEMBER SAYING I HAVE GIVEN THIS COMMENDATION -- SAYING IT
11:55:51AM PUBLICLY UP HERE FROM -- FROM THE CHAMBER AND THEN STILL
11:55:55AM DOING IT OFF-SITE, YOU KNOW.
11:55:57AM JUST TO STREAMLINE OUR PROCESS AND MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.
11:56:02AM THAT'S WHAT --
11:56:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO APPROVE
11:56:08AM THE COMMENDATION SO, YES, WE ARE IN EFFECT ALREADY DOING
11:56:11AM THAT.
11:56:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR --
11:56:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO INTERPRET WHAT THIS MEANS, SAYS
11:56:18AM EVERY EFFORT MADE TO PRESENT COMMENDATION OFF-SITE.
11:56:21AM I AM READING THAT IT IS THE PREFERENCE OF COUNCIL THAT
11:56:25AM COMMENDATIONS BE DONE OFF-SITE OPPOSED TO -- I WANT TO MAKE
11:56:29AM SURE IN TERMS OF -- I AM FINE WITH THAT.
11:56:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT TO ADD THE WORD "THE PREFERENCE OF
11:56:34AM COUNCIL THAT COMMENDATIONS BE MADE OFF-SITE."
11:56:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, A NICER WORD.
11:56:41AM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:56:43AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:56:44AM OPPOSE?
11:56:46AM THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:56:47AM THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
11:56:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 10, ONLY COUNCILMEMBERS ASKING
11:56:52AM TO BE RECOGNIZED SHOULD BE CALLED UPON TO COMMENT ON A
11:56:56AM COMMENDATION OR PRESENTATION.
11:56:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:57:00AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:57:02AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:57:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CALLED ON ME ONE TIME AND I DIDN'T
11:57:07AM WANT TO SAY ANYTHING.
11:57:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, OKAY.
11:57:09AM [LAUGHTER]
11:57:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 11.
11:57:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S TRUE.
11:57:12AM THAT'S TRUE.
11:57:13AM YES, SIR.
11:57:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONSIDER CONSOLIDATING CITY EMPLOYEE
11:57:17AM COMMENDATIONS TOGETHER ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
11:57:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO STRIKE.
11:57:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS TRICKY.
11:57:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO MOTION, NO SECOND, IT STRIKES.
11:57:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 11 HAS BEEN STRUCK.
11:57:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
11:57:30AM NUMBER 12, RECOGNIZING A NONREPRESENTED STAFF MEMBER AS
11:57:35AM STAFF MEMBER OF THE QUARTER.
11:57:36AM THAT IS A NEW CATEGORY.
11:57:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION FOR DISCUSSION.
11:57:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:57:47AM YES, MA'AM.
11:57:48AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:57:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
11:57:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHO WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THIS?
11:57:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, BECAUSE COUNCILMAN VIERA, I THINK
11:57:56AM YOU HAVE ATU, CORRECT?
11:57:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS SOMETHING, BY THE WAY, THE COUNCIL
11:58:01AM AS A BODY HAS NOT DISCUSSED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:58:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
11:58:05AM AND I WOULD PROMOTE IT GOING FORWARD WITH JUST MORE INPUT
11:58:14AM NOT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
11:58:15AM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THOSE FOLKS DO DESERVE RECOGNITION AND
11:58:18AM DON'T HAVE IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS HOW WE
11:58:21AM DO THAT.
11:58:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY DON'T REPORT TO US.
11:58:23AM A CAN OF WORMS.
11:58:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I WILL DO IS PUT AN AIR ROW THERE.
11:58:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE.
11:58:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOVING ON THEN.
11:58:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:58:36AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:58:37AM OPPOSED?
11:58:39AM PRESENTATION.
11:58:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS THAT MOTION.
11:58:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE IT UP LATER AT ANOTHER TIME.
11:58:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MOTION TO ACCEPT IT BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD
11:58:46AM IDEA.
11:58:46AM BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE WEEDS HOW IT GETS DONE.
11:58:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
11:58:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THOUGHT THE MOTION WAS TO DISCUSS IT WITH
11:58:57AM THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:58:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION TO DISCUSS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
11:59:01AM AND FIND OUT WAYS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET THIS GOING.
11:59:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:59:10AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:59:11AM AYE.
11:59:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SINCE THIS IS NOT PART OF THIS, TO REPORT
11:59:15AM BACK -- WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT, MR. SHELBY?
11:59:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ME?
11:59:19AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:59:19AM IF WE CAN SAVE THAT UNTIL THE END AND SEE HOW WE ARE ABLE TO
11:59:25AM GO ABOUT THAT.
11:59:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PRESENTATIONS.
11:59:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PRESENTATIONS SHOULD ONLY BE RELATED TO
11:59:34AM CITY BUSINESS.
11:59:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HECK YES.
11:59:35AM SO MOVED.
11:59:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
11:59:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:59:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: CITY BUSINESS IS VERY VAGUE.
11:59:46AM WE COULD BE TALKING OF AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH.
11:59:50AM TALKING ABOUT MEMORIAL DAY.
11:59:51AM THAT WILL STRIKE THAT.
11:59:53AM EVERY YEAR GOLD STAR PARENTS COME.
11:59:55AM I HAD FOLKS FROM THE CONCERNED OF POLICE SURVIVORS COME TO
11:59:59AM TALK OF THEIR ANNUAL GALA.
12:00:01PM SPOUSE -- POLICE OFFICER SPOUSES, POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE
12:00:05PM KILLED IN ACTION.
12:00:06PM IS THIS WILL PUT A CHILLING EFFECT ON THOSE TYPES OF
12:00:09PM PRESENTATIONS WHICH ARE TWO OR THREE TEAMS OF YEAR AND
12:00:13PM WHICH, I THINK, ARE VERY PIVOTAL.
12:00:14PM I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THAT BECAUSE WOULD PRECLUDE THOSE TYPES
12:00:18PM OF PRESENTATIONS.
12:00:19PM I WOULD IS ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO DO THE SAME.
12:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I BE NEXT?
12:00:24PM AND SO, IN ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF -- AT
12:00:29PM LEAST IN OUR PERSPECTIVE -- WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL
12:00:31PM DISAGREEMENT.
12:00:32PM I LOOK AT THOSE THINGS -- WHILE THEY ARE ALL WORTHY CAUSES,
12:00:37PM IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE
12:00:40PM TRYING TO SQUEEZE, YOU KNOW, TEN POUNDS OF SAND OF MEETING
12:00:44PM INTO -- INTO A FIVE-POUND BAG.
12:00:46PM AGAIN, NOBODY IS GOING TO SAY ANY OF THESE THINGS -- ALL OF
12:00:52PM THESE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY -- IT IS AN
12:00:56PM INFINITE NUMBER OF GREAT CAUSES, GREAT SOCIAL JUSTICE
12:01:00PM THINGS.
12:01:00PM THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
12:01:01PM BUT IS IT PERTINENT TO CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS.
12:01:04PM CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS.
12:01:07PM THAT I THINK WOULD BE THE THING.
12:01:09PM ARE YOU GO GOING TO ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR TO PAY TAX MONEY TO
12:01:13PM RUN THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
12:01:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:01:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:01:20PM IN TERMS OF -- THE WORD "PRESENTATIONS" IS KIND OF THROWING
12:01:24PM ME OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT COULD BE THE KIDS THAT CAME
12:01:27PM FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT OBSERVED US.
12:01:29PM WE ACKNOWLEDGED THEM AND SAID HELLO.
12:01:31PM COULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A PRESENTATION?
12:01:33PM EVEN IN ITS SMALLEST FORM.
12:01:36PM IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
12:01:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
12:01:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
12:01:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, SO LONG THIS HAVEN'T BEEN ABUSED WHICH
12:01:47PM I SUGGEST IT HAVEN'T BEEN.
12:01:48PM IN TERMS OF TIME, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
12:01:51PM THIS ISN'T ONE THAT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF HAVING A RULE THAT
12:01:54PM WILL PRECLUDE ALL SUCH -- I WOULD BE OPEN IF SOMEONE WERE TO
12:01:59PM MAKE OF MAKE A MOTION MAYBE ON THE -- HECK, MAYBE WE HAVE A
12:02:03PM SUPERMAJORITY, HOW ABOUT THAT.
12:02:05PM IF SOMETHING DOESN'T RELATE TO COUNCIL BUSINESS, IT WOULD
12:02:08PM HAVE TO HAVE FIVE OUT OF SEVEN SUPPORTING IT TO HAVE A
12:02:12PM HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY.
12:02:14PM I AM FINE WITH THAT.
12:02:15PM SOMETHING WE WOULD COME TO REGRET NEXT MEMORIAL DAY IN 2025,
12:02:20PM I WILL BE MANAGING THAT MOTION.
12:02:21PM I DO IT EVERY YEAR.
12:02:22PM AND I WOULD SAY, BY THE WAY, THIS DOES RELATE TO FUNCTION OF
12:02:29PM THE CITY, ETC.
12:02:29PM THERE IS VAGUENESS IN THAT.
12:02:31PM AND I THINK -- OBVIOUSLY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU ARE 100%
12:02:35PM RIGHT.
12:02:35PM THINGS WE ALL SUPPORT.
12:02:37PM NOT IN DISPUTE, OBVIOUSLY.
12:02:39PM I THINK THIS RULE WILL BE MISGUIDED AND NEGATIVE EFFECT AND
12:02:43PM WE COULD HAVE IT COME BACK IN A MORE REASONABLE FORM.
12:02:46PM OPINION.
12:02:47PM >> GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:02:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AREN'T WE TIMED FOR A MINUTE.
12:02:50PM PUT ME ON FOR A MINUTE.
12:02:52PM I THINK PRESENTATIONS NOT RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS SHOULD
12:02:55PM GET FIVE MINUTES.
12:02:55PM PRESENTATIONS RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS, TEN MINUTES.
12:02:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM DOWN.
12:03:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT A REASONABLE -- COMPROMISE.
12:03:08PM BASICALLY COMBINING NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 3.
12:03:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
12:03:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FAIR.
12:03:14PM I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
12:03:15PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH A MOTION -- DID YOU GET THAT, MR.
12:03:18PM SHELBY.
12:03:18PM NONCITY BUSINESS, FIVE MINUTES.
12:03:20PM CITY BUSINESS, TEN MINUTES.
12:03:22PM THAT'S CORRECT, MA'AM?
12:03:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, PRESENTATIONS CAN STILL OCCUR.
12:03:26PM THINGS LIKE FDOT PRESENTATION, TEN MINUTES BECAUSE RELATED
12:03:29PM TO THE CITY.
12:03:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
12:03:33PM HURTAK.
12:03:33PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:03:34PM THIS WOULD TACKLE 1 AND 3.
12:03:37PM YES, SIR?
12:03:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SUPPORT THIS AS AN INTEREST OF
12:03:40PM COMPROMISE, BUT I STILL BELIEVE BASED ON PRINCIPLE THAT WE
12:03:43PM AS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY RUNNING
12:03:47PM THIS MEETING IN THE EFFICIENCY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:03:50PM TAXPAYERS AND ELIMINATE THE STUFF THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY
12:03:54PM BENEFIT THE CITY OF TAMPA IN A FISCAL KIND OF WAY.
12:03:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:03:59PM OPPOSED?
12:04:00PM ALL RIGHT.
12:04:00PM ITEM NUMBER 2 THEN, MR. SHELBY.
12:04:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM CROSSING ITEM 3.
12:04:05PM ITEM 2 --
12:04:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 1 AND 3 GROUPED TOGETHER.
12:04:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 2 IS IN-PERSON A MEMO TO COUNCIL STATING
12:04:15PM WHO AND WHY IN ADVANCE OF THE MOTION REQUESTING THE
12:04:18PM PRESENTATION.
12:04:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FAIR.
12:04:19PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:04:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO MOVED.
12:04:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:04:23PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:04:24PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:04:25PM OPPOSED?
12:04:27PM ITEM NUMBER 4.
12:04:27PM ONE PRESENTATION PER MEETING.
12:04:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANTED TO EXPLAIN MYSELF ON THAT, BUT
12:04:34PM THAT'S FINE.
12:04:34PM IT PASSED.
12:04:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:04:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT PASSED.
12:04:39PM IT'S FINE.
12:04:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE PRESENTATION PER MEETING.
12:04:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
12:04:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
12:04:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ONE MINUTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER
12:04:49PM TO COMMENT ON PRESENTATION.
12:04:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RUN THE TIMER ON COMMENTS TO PRESENTATIONS.
12:04:54PM ONE MINUTE.
12:04:54PM DID I HEAR A MOTION?
12:04:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:05:00PM ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE ONE MINUTE?
12:05:05PM COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS A MOTION.
12:05:06PM A SECOND.
12:05:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WITHDRAW.
12:05:08PM THAT IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH.
12:05:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S STRIKE ITEM 5.
12:05:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A TIME LIMIT ON COMMENTS FOR THE
12:05:16PM PRESENTATION APPLIED TO CITY COUNCIL AT ALL?
12:05:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST THE NORMAL COMMENT PERIOD.
12:05:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THE TIMER -- DOES THE CLERK HAVE
12:05:25PM DIRECTION TO RUN THE TIMER AT THAT TIME, MADAM CLERK?
12:05:28PM >>CLERK: WE GIVE COUNCILMEMBERS FIVE MINUTES.
12:05:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S KEEP IT AT FIVE MINUTES.
12:05:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAVEN'T TENDED TO BE A PROBLEM IN THE PAST.
12:05:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO CONFIRM NUMBER 4 HAD PASSED AND NUMBER
12:05:41PM 5.
12:05:41PM WE TURN THE PAGE.
12:05:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:05:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS GETTING READY TO BE FUN.
12:05:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:05:50PM ITEMS 1, 2, 3 AND 4 RELATE TO THE USE OF SPEAKER CARDS.
12:05:56PM THAT COULD ALSO BE TIED TO NUMBERS 8 AND 9 WHEN WE GET TO
12:06:03PM IT, BUT WHAT YOU CAN HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE SPEAKER CARDS.
12:06:05PM THERE ARE MUNICIPALITIES WHO HAVE THE USE OF SPEAKER CARDS
12:06:13PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY USED TO UNTIL THEY WENT TO A SOLELY
12:06:15PM WEB-BASED SYSTEM.
12:06:16PM YOU CAN DO SPEAKER CARDS BUT A PREREGISTRATION WEB FORM
12:06:21PM SIMILAR TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, SORT OF LIKE WE DO NOW TO
12:06:23PM SIGN UP PEOPLE FOR REMOTE SPEAKING.
12:06:25PM WHAT THAT DOES, THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GET THEIR REGISTRATION
12:06:30PM TO SIGN IN.
12:06:31PM AND THEN PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP, WE CAN GO TO SPEAKER WAIVER
12:06:40PM CARDS FOR THAT.
12:06:40PM DESIRE TO USE SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC
12:06:45PM COMMENT.
12:06:45PM NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
12:06:47PM THEY USE THE SUBPOENA-IN FORMS.
12:06:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FOR ITEM 1.
12:06:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 1, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:06:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM -- WELL -- OKAY.
12:06:56PM POINT OF INFORMATION.
12:06:58PM POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
12:07:00PM BECAUSE -- I GUESS -- ITEM NUMBER 2 IS NOTE ON SPEAKER.
12:07:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU CAN PUT A
12:07:10PM MOTION TO TALK ABOUT IT, OTHERWISE IT JUST DIES.
12:07:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I NEED CLARIFICATION.
12:07:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AFTER --
12:07:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKER OF THE MOTION.
12:07:22PM A QUESTION OF YOUR INTENT.
12:07:24PM YOU ARE ONLY PUTTING ITEM NUMBER 1 ON THE FLOOR.
12:07:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, YOU CAN COMBINE IT YOU WISH.
12:07:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE VOTE ON ITEM 1, DOES IT EXCLUDE
12:07:34PM HAVING ONLINE REGISTRATION?
12:07:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
12:07:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GROUPED SEPARATE.
12:07:38PM A MOTION ON ITEM 1, 2, 3 AND 4.
12:07:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I.
12:07:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU NEED A MOTION.
12:07:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
12:07:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ROBERTS RULES THIS TIME.
12:07:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NUMBER ONE.
12:07:49PM THAT IS THE MOTION.
12:07:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A SECOND.
12:07:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
12:07:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS MADE A MOTION FOR
12:07:59PM ITEM NUMBER 1.
12:08:00PM THE SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:08:02PM WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT?
12:08:05PM YES, SIR.
12:08:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL FOUR OF THESE.
12:08:08PM THIS IS WHY.
12:08:09PM HAVING FOLKS FILL OUT CARDS JUST GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE
12:08:13PM ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN COME HERE IN PUBLIC
12:08:17PM COMMENT.
12:08:17PM YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS, THAT IS FINE, BUT YOU GOT TO DO
12:08:20PM SOMETHING FOR IT IN TERMS OF FILLING OUT CARDS.
12:08:22PM I THINK THAT IS FINE.
12:08:23PM I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS USED TO DENY
12:08:27PM PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:08:29PM I THINK DOING THAT HOWEVER TINY IT IS, I THINK IT MAKES
12:08:33PM PEOPLE MORE OF A STAKEHOLDER.
12:08:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
12:08:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE.
12:08:41PM AND IF YOU WATCH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IT IS VERY ORDERLY
12:08:45PM WITH SPEAKER CARDS.
12:08:46PM YOU CAN CREATE AN ORDER.
12:08:48PM SO WHAT -- WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THE DISORDER THEIR IT
12:08:52PM CREATES IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS HAVING PEOPLE LINE UP,
12:08:56PM ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
12:08:58PM IF WE HAVE AN ORDER OF CARDS, WE CAN CALL PEOPLE UP ONE AT A
12:09:01PM TIME AND PREP 9 NEXT PERSON TO BE READY TO COME UP.
12:09:04PM I THINK IT WILL MAINTAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF DECORUM IN THE
12:09:08PM COUNCIL CHAMBER AND FACILITATE MORE EXPEDITIOUS PUBLIC
12:09:13PM COMMENT AS WELL.
12:09:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION FOR THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
12:09:17PM A MOTION FOR INCLUSIVE 1, 2, 3 AND 4.
12:09:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 1.
12:09:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHOSE MOTION WAS IT?
12:09:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE MOVED 1.
12:09:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CLEARLY SAID 1.
12:09:32PM COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE THE MOTION AND SECOND FROM
12:09:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:09:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSION.
12:09:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, 1.
12:09:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS CLEAR.
12:09:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE IF SOMEONE THAT
12:09:49PM DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
12:09:50PM IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
12:09:52PM AND NO YOU THEY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM
12:09:55PM WITH THAT.
12:09:56PM I DON'T WANT TO STOP ANYONE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:09:58PM INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY FOR THAT.
12:10:00PM SO IT EMPHATICALLY BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.
12:10:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:10:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION,
12:10:08PM RIGHT.
12:10:08PM I -- SOMEBODY MAY BE INSPIRED TO SAY SOMETHING BASED ON WHAT
12:10:13PM SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID AND THEY GET UP AND DON'T HAVE A
12:10:17PM SPEAKER CARD.
12:10:17PM I THINK IT CAN OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS.
12:10:19PM IF WE DENY THE PERSON A RIGHT -- OR WILL THEY BE ABLE TO
12:10:25PM FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AT THE LAST MINUTE SOMEBODY IN.
12:10:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OUT FOR COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION.
12:10:30PM IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY HAVE THESE SORT OF
12:10:34PM PREREGISTRATIONS OR ON-SITE REGISTRATION.
12:10:36PM ONCE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CARDS TO BE COMPILED, ONCE WE
12:10:40PM HAVE SUFFICIENT SUPPORT STAFF AND GO TO THE CHAIR IN SOME
12:10:43PM FORM AND FASHION, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
12:10:46PM YOU COULD CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY CAN SPEAK AT THE
12:10:50PM ENDS IF THEY WISH, IF THAT IS SOMETHING.
12:10:52PM OR DIFFERENT MECHANISMS.
12:10:54PM AS IT STANDS NOW, COUNCIL CAN STILL CHOOSE TO USE SPEAKER
12:10:58PM WAIVER CARDS AND CREATE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO
12:11:01PM SPEAK AFTER THE WAIVER -- AFTER THE SPEAKER CARDS ARE
12:11:04PM SUBMITTED.
12:11:04PM THE ANSWER IS THAT IS IN THE DETAILS OF HOW IT IS.
12:11:09PM AND IF YOU GIVE DIRECTION, THAT'S HOW WE SET IT UP.
12:11:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT TOO.
12:11:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:11:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALSO CAN WE JUST REQUIRE THAT THE SPEAKER
12:11:18PM PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD BE ON THE CARDS WHEN THEY
12:11:21PM GET UP TO SPEAK?
12:11:26PM THEY HAVE TO SAY THEIR NAME, WHAT AGENDA ITEM THEY ARE
12:11:28PM DISCUSSING, I GUESS.
12:11:29PM AND --
12:11:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HERE IS THE ISSUE, IF I SHALL --
12:11:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND WHERE THEY LIVE.
12:11:35PM THEY DO THAT ANYWAY A LOT OF THEM.
12:11:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS.
12:11:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE JUST REQUIRE IT AND DOES IT HAVE TO BE
12:11:43PM ON THE CARD?
12:11:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS THE CHAIR'S
12:11:48PM CARDS TO BE ORDERED SO ON AGENDA ITEMS ARE HEARD FIRST.
12:11:54PM IT GIVES PREFERENCE -- WE TRY THAT JUST WITH ALLOWING PEOPLE
12:11:58PM TO SPEAK.
12:11:59PM AND IT WENT BY THE WAYSIDE VERY QUICKLY.
12:12:07PM THAT'S WHY 2, 3 AND 4.
12:12:10PM NUMBER 1 IS THE THRESHOLD QUESTION AND YOU GO TO 2, AND 4
12:12:15PM AND NARROW IT IS DOWN WHEN YOU DO THAT.
12:12:17PM THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS ON THE CARD TO
12:12:21PM ADVANCE AND DESIGNATE THEY ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT
12:12:24PM ARE PERTINENT TO THAT DAY'S AGENDA.
12:12:26PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
12:12:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:12:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SPEAKING OF THE WHOLE CONCEPT.
12:12:37PM WE DON'T HAVE A MIC HERE.
12:12:39PM PEOPLE GET THREE OR FOUR FEET FROM IT AND SAY THEIR NAME AND
12:12:43PM WALK ON UNTIL WE HEAR THEM OR NOT SOMETIMES.
12:12:45PM I THINK -- IF YOU HAD A MIC THERE THAT PEOPLE SPEAK DIRECTLY
12:12:50PM INTO THE MIC CIVIC A LOT OF TIME ASKING WHAT IS YOUR NAME,
12:12:55PM THIS AND THE OTHER.
12:12:55PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T WORK, BUT THE
12:12:58PM GENERAL PUBLIC, INCLUDING MYSELF, WANT TO SEE A MIC IN FRONT
12:13:03PM OF YOU SO THEY KNOW WHERE TO SPEAK AT.
12:13:05PM SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE NERVOUS.
12:13:08PM AND THEY DON'T SEE A MIC, THEY ARE TWICE AS NERVOUS.
12:13:12PM THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY.
12:13:14PM I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT SHOULD CHANGE TO CALM DOWN
12:13:18PM THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE A MICROPHONE AND THEY NEEDS TO
12:13:22PM SPEAK.
12:13:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:13:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN SEE THIS -- SOMEONE DECIDES AT THE LAST
12:13:27PM MINUTE TO SPEAK AND FILLING OUT THE SPEAKER WAIVER CARD AND
12:13:30PM WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THEM TO FILL OUT THE CARD.
12:13:32PM I SEE THIS TAKING A LOT LONGER THAN WE OPENED.
12:13:34PM LOGISTICS WHETHER THEY DO OR NOT.
12:13:43PM I WAS HERE WHEN SIGN-IN SHEETS WERE INSTITUTED AND A MICE
12:13:47PM PROCESS, BUT YOU CAN ASK THE CLERK BUT THE USE AND
12:13:52PM READABILITY OF SIGN-IN SHEETS.
12:13:53PM IF SOMEBODY -- -- BY THE WAY, WE COULD HAVE -- I WILL SHARE
12:13:58PM WITH YOU HOW TO GET TO IT IN HILLSBOROUGH.
12:14:00PM THEY HAVE STAFF ASSISTING PEOPLE IN SIGN IN.
12:14:02PM AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
12:14:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN STILL HAVE PEOPLE ASSISTING PEOPLE
12:14:07PM WITH SIGN-IN.
12:14:07PM THE BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU CAN'T WRITE YOUR NAME ON A SIGN-IN
12:14:12PM SHEET, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE LEGIBLE IN THE SPEAKER CARD.
12:14:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FRANKLY, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, THEY
12:14:19PM HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK.
12:14:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, I WILL VOTE AGAINST THE USE
12:14:26PM OF SPEAKER CARDS.
12:14:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO IT SIMPLY.
12:14:29PM OPPOSITION -- MULTIPLE ROUNDS TAKE TIME.
12:14:32PM MY SUGGESTION IS IT VOTES UP AND DOWN.
12:14:36PM AND WE CAN JUST DECIDE.
12:14:38PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANNOUNCE YOUR VOTE, UNLESS YOU WANT TO.
12:14:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO.
12:14:42PM THAT'S WHY I SAID IT.
12:14:43PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:14:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, QUICKLY ON THIS.
12:14:46PM NEGATIVITY THAT CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
12:14:48PM I THINK THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVES.
12:14:51PM WE WILL TO REQUIRE MORE STAFF FOR THIS AND THAT IS ONE OF
12:14:54PM THE CONSIDERATIONS.
12:14:54PM NOT MY INTENT OR ANYONE'S INTENT TO DISSUADE ANYBODY FROM
12:15:00PM COMMENT.
12:15:00PM PROVIDES MORE STABILITY AND MAKES PEOPLE STAKEHOLDERS.
12:15:04PM I DO THIS TO FORWARD IT AND DISCUSS IT MORE BECAUSE WE NEED
12:15:07PM MORE STABILITY WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS IS AN OPTION WE
12:15:10PM HAVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED AT THIS TIME.
12:15:12PM THANK YOU.
12:15:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
12:15:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MORE DISCUSSION.
12:15:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:15:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:15:19PM I WILL RESTATE MY ISSUE ABOUT MAINTAINING ORDER.
12:15:23PM AND I THINK PREDICTABILITY.
12:15:26PM WHEN FOLKS FILL OUT THE SPEAKER CARDS AND CONTINUE THROUGH
12:15:29PM THE ITEMS 2-4, WE ADD LITTLE MORE CLARITY.
12:15:33PM FACILITATE THE CITY'S BUSINESS.
12:15:36PM IT DOESN'T INHIBIT PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR DISCOURSE.
12:15:39PM ONE BIT.
12:15:40PM IT ALLOWS FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK IF THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
12:15:46PM IF IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO CREATE SOME ORDER.
12:15:49PM AND ESTABLISH THE TIME LIMITS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
12:15:53PM DEALING WITH FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.
12:15:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER 1
12:16:02PM ONLY.
12:16:02PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:16:04PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:16:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
12:16:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: NAY.
12:16:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:16:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:16:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
12:16:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:16:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:16:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:16:28PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, HURTAK, MANISCALCO,
12:16:32PM HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:16:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, ITEM WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY
12:16:39PM STRUCK.
12:16:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
12:16:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 4 --
12:16:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU LIVE OR OWN A BUSINESS --
12:16:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STRUCK SO I CAN'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
12:16:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DEPENDS FRANKLY.
12:16:52PM IF SOMEONE -- SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND
12:16:57PM WHEN EVERYBODY STANDS UP YOU CAN MAKE THAT A RULE.
12:17:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GO TO JACKSON, TALLAHASSEE AND ST.
12:17:04PM PETE CITY COUNCIL -- SARCASTIC.
12:17:06PM NO, IT HAS BEEN STRUCK.
12:17:08PM I FOCUS ON THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE I LIVE IN.
12:17:11PM ITEM NUMBER 5.
12:17:12PM KEEP PHONE-IN OPTION FOR GENERAL PUBLIC MEANT.
12:17:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
12:17:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECONDS.
12:17:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE STRIKE ITEM NUMBER
12:17:21PM 6.
12:17:21PM BECAUSE WE -- WE NEXT IT WITH ITEM NUMBER 5.
12:17:25PM ALL RIGHT.
12:17:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE ARE WE, NUMBER 7.
12:17:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANTED TO VOTE NO ON --
12:17:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR CLARITY, MADAM CLERK, 6-1 WITH ITEM
12:17:42PM NUMBER 5 WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON VOTING NO.
12:17:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT PHONE-INS SHOULD ONLY BE FOR
12:17:50PM THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT.
12:17:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS NUMBER 7, BY THE WAY.
12:17:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT A REGISTRATION MECHANISM FOR ONLY
12:17:57PM THOSE WITH SPECIAL HARDSHIP AND NEED FOR COMMENDATIONS.
12:18:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE ARE WE NOW, BY THE WAY?
12:18:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 7.
12:18:05PM >> SO MOVED.
12:18:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:18:09PM CLENDENIN.
12:18:09PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:18:11PM FOR ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:18:12PM YES, SIR.
12:18:13PM IS THERE A SECOND?
12:18:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SPEAK ON NUMBER 7.
12:18:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:18:19PM YES, SIR.
12:18:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL GOOD AND DANDY, BUT WHAT IF A
12:18:24PM COUNCILMEMBER IS OUT, ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT COUNCIL
12:18:26PM MEMBER A RIGHT TO SPEAK AND SOMETIMES A PUBLIC PERSON CAN'T
12:18:29PM SPEAK BY PHONE?
12:18:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
12:18:33PM CLENDENIN: DURING COVID, DID WE DO THAT?
12:18:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE COVID, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A PHONE-IN
12:18:45PM OPTION OR WEB ACCESS.
12:18:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COVID CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE.
12:18:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS ONE, NUMBER 7 IS REALLY AN ALTERNATIVE
12:18:56PM OF ONLY ALLOWING THOSE WITH SPECIAL HARDSHIPS OR THE NEED
12:18:59PM FOR ACCOMMODATION TO CALL IN REMOTELY.
12:19:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PEOPLE HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES WE SHOULD BE
12:19:06PM ABLE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE.
12:19:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT IF YOU LEAVE -- IF YOU LEAVE PHONE-IN
12:19:11PM OPTIONS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, IT COVERS THAT.
12:19:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T 7 LIMIT NUMBER 5?
12:19:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 7 DOES LIMIT NUMBER 5.
12:19:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD STRIKE 7, BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 5
12:19:24PM COVERS IT.
12:19:24PM A HARDSHIP.
12:19:26PM YOU CAN'T MAKE IT DOWN FOR WHATEVER REASON.
12:19:27PM I WOULD STRIKE 7.
12:19:29PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:19:30PM DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION?
12:19:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION.
12:19:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE STRIKE ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:19:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO STRIKE.
12:19:39PM >> SECOND.
12:19:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STRIKE 7.
12:19:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
12:19:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: VOTE ON IT.
12:19:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT IS STRUCK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE.
12:19:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, GOOD.
12:19:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 8.
12:19:52PM THIS RELATES TO SIGN-INS, REFRIGERATION WEB FORM FOR GENERAL
12:19:58PM COMMENT SIMILAR TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:20:00PM AND WHAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOES IS ALLOW FOR WEB-BASED
12:20:03PM ON-SITE REGISTRATION FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SIMILAR TO
12:20:07PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:20:08PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOES USE AN EFFECTIVE SPEAKER CARDS AND
12:20:12PM ALL DONE ELECTRONICALLY AND TO HAVE A WEB PORT TO ALLOW
12:20:18PM PEOPLE TO PREREGISTER AND HAVE THEM FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
12:20:22PM FIRST IN LINE WHOEVER GETS TO STAND OVER THERE FIRST.
12:20:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:20:28PM I HAVE A QUESTION I WANT TO DISCUSS.
12:20:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
12:20:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:20:33PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:20:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:20:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:20:37PM MY QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE -- WHAT'S IT ALL, A PHONE-IN
12:20:45PM OPTION, PREREGISTRATION.
12:20:47PM THE CLERK GIVES A LIST OF ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR HERE.
12:20:51PM IS THERE A NEED FOR THIS.
12:20:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT I SPENT A
12:20:55PM MORNING WITH THE PEOPLE FROM -- THE EQUIVALENT OF
12:21:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO SEE WHAT
12:21:02PM THEY TO DO.
12:21:03PM AND PEOPLE I COME INTO IN ROOM TO TALK TO COUNCIL WHO
12:21:08PM ALREADY PREREGISTERED ONLINE BEFORE THEY COME IN TO SPEAK TO
12:21:12PM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
12:21:13PM SO PEOPLE WITH HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT FROM HOME AND
12:21:16PM IT SAVES THEM THE -- IT ALMOST GIVES THEM A PLACE IN LINE,
12:21:19PM BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE GET FIRST -- ESPECIALLY IF IT IS ON
12:21:24PM AGENDA ITEMS.
12:21:24PM IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
12:21:26PM IF YOU DON'T WANT TO EVEN ADDRESS IT, WE CAN STRIKE IT.
12:21:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL STRIKE 8 AND 9.
12:21:32PM WE HAVE KEEP PHONE-IN OPTION FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AS
12:21:35PM WELL AS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
12:21:37PM SO I WOULD STRIKE 8 AND 9.
12:21:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION AND A SECOND TO 8 OR 9.
12:21:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE RESCINDED HIS MOTION.
12:21:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO MOTION OR SECOND TO 8 OR 9.
12:21:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO STRIKE 8 AND 9.
12:21:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW NUMBER 10.
12:22:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO STRIKE 10.
12:22:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:22:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO STRIKE 11.
12:22:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.
12:22:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MANY TIMES I HAVE DONE THIS OVER THE
12:22:15PM YEARS.
12:22:15PM HEAR SPEAKERS PRESENT IN CHAMBERS.
12:22:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION.
12:22:21PM THERE WAS NO MOTION AND A SECOND FOR 11, IS THAT RIGHT?
12:22:25PM RATHER SAY MOVE TO STRIKE.
12:22:27PM SAY FAILED FOR A MOTION.
12:22:30PM 11 FAILED FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:22:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
12:22:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
12:22:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 12.
12:22:39PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:22:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:22:42PM ANY DISCUSSION?
12:22:43PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
12:22:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES YOU DO PHONE IN FIRST.
12:22:50PM I THINK THAT CHAIR DOES A GOOD JOB OF BALANCING THAT.
12:22:53PM SO I THINK LEAVING IT TO THE CHAIR IS FINE.
12:22:56PM BUT IF PEOPLE FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THAT'S
12:23:02PM OKAY.
12:23:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL WITHDRAW.
12:23:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
12:23:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A FLIPSIDE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE MAY
12:23:09PM HAVE PARKING PROBLEMS PAYING FOR PARKING AND THINGS OF THAT
12:23:13PM NATURE.
12:23:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKING THEIR EFFORT TO COME TIME.
12:23:17PM AND THEY SHOULD HAVE PREFERENCE.
12:23:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WITHDRAW MY WITHDRAW.
12:23:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION?
12:23:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM FINE EITHER WAY.
12:23:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:23:32PM THE ONLY WAY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
12:23:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE SAYING YOU WITHDRAW THE MOTION?
12:23:39PM ITEM NUMBER 12 FAILS.
12:23:40PM NO, IT'S BEEN -- BEEN WORKING FINE.
12:23:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID I MISS?
12:23:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 12 FAILS FOR A MOTION.
12:23:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 12 FAILS FOR A MOTION.
12:23:50PM OKAY, THE QUESTION IS -- I GUESS MISS EDWARDS HAS QUESTION,
12:23:55PM WHAT IF THERE IS -- AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO IS A -- SOMEBODY
12:23:59PM WHO WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY WHO -- WHO IS CALLING IN FROM AN
12:24:03PM AGENCY OR SOMETHING TO BE SPEAK.
12:24:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FAILS.
12:24:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY NEED TO WAIT IN LINE.
12:24:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIR'S DISCRETION.
12:24:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PROVIDE THREE MINUTES FOR SPEAKERS FOR
12:24:15PM ON-AGENDA ITEMS.
12:24:17PM LIMIT TO ONE MINUTE FOR OFF-AGENDA.
12:24:20PM I WOULD STRIKE THAT.
12:24:21PM A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR 13?
12:24:24PM 13 FAILS FOR LACK OF A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:24:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR.
12:24:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:24:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A FAVOR TO ACT.
12:24:32PM DON'T TELL US HOW YOU WILL VOTE BECAUSE THAT IS
12:24:35PM CIRCUMVENTING --
12:24:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS IT -- I SET THE PRECEDENT.
12:24:39PM ALL YOU ARE SEEK SOMETHING WHETHER THERE IS A MOTION OR A
12:24:43PM SECOND.
12:24:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIMIT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
12:24:48PM START OF THE MEETING TO 45 MINUTES SIMILAR TO HILLSBOROUGH
12:24:52PM COUNTY.
12:24:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
12:24:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:24:56PM CLENDENIN.
12:24:57PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
12:24:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM ONLY GOING TO SECOND FOR DISCUSSION
12:25:00PM PURPOSES.
12:25:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
12:25:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:25:04PM WHAT I -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS PROPER FOR ME TO MAKE A
12:25:07PM PROPER ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL IF I MAY, THAT WE DO IT AT ONE
12:25:10PM HOUR, AND EXTENDED 15-MINUTE TIME BY A SUPERMAJORITY.
12:25:15PM JUST, AGAIN, I AM JUST LOOKING FOR SOME STABILITY PROVIDED
12:25:19PM TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:25:20PM IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO PASS ANY OF THESE, I AM LOOKING FOR
12:25:23PM SOMETHING THAT WILL PROVIDE SOME GUARDRAILS, HOWEVER MINOR.
12:25:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:25:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO WE HAVE SOME DATA ON HOW LONG PUBLIC
12:25:33PM COMMENT TAKES?
12:25:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TYPICALLY 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR.
12:25:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SOMETIMES TAKES LONGER THAN THAT.
12:25:44PM ESPECIALLY IF COUPLED WITH COMMENDATIONS.
12:25:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:25:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS IF THERE IS A LINE OF
12:25:57PM PEOPLE, THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE EVER GOING TO VOTE NO TO NOT
12:26:01PM CONTINUE IT IN 15-MINUTE INTERVALS.
12:26:03PM I THINK WE ARE JUST ADDING TO OUR LEVEL OF BUREAUCRACY THAT
12:26:12PM WAY.
12:26:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I INQUIRE AGAIN.
12:26:14PM WHO DID THE SECOND AND THE MOTION.
12:26:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION CLENDENIN.
12:26:17PM SECOND FROM VIERA FOR DISCUSSION.
12:26:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THAT.
12:26:21PM BUT I WOULD -- I ACTUALLY -- I WOULD STICK REQUEST THE 45
12:26:25PM MINUTES WHICH I THINK REASONABLY MOST PUBLIC COMMENTS FALL
12:26:29PM WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME.
12:26:30PM I WILL HARKEN BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID.
12:26:34PM IT IS NOT JUST THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, ALL
12:26:37PM THE OTHER PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:26:41PM THE PRIVATE INTEREST AND THE STAFF.
12:26:43PM WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME PREDICTABILITY.
12:26:45PM RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE PREDICTABILITY AND THEY HAVE TO
12:26:49PM MANAGE THEIR TIME AS WELL.
12:26:51PM IF YOU CAN SET THOSE TYPE OF PARAMETERS THEY CAN MANAGE
12:26:54PM THEIR DAY APPROPRIATELY.
12:26:56PM RIGHT NOW, YOU SEE THESE FOLKS.
12:26:57PM THEY ARE HAVING -- LITERALLY SOME OF THE FOLKS ARE SITTING
12:27:00PM THERE FOR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN HOURS TO WAIT FOR THE BUSINESS TO
12:27:03PM COME BEFORE THEM.
12:27:04PM I CAN'T IMAGINE THE PRODUCTIVITY FOR STAFF TO PAY ATTENTION
12:27:07PM TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS NOT KNOWING WHEN THINGS WILL BEGIN
12:27:10PM OR END.
12:27:11PM I FEEL LIKE -- AGAIN, I WOULD WAGER TO PET THAT 80% OF OUR
12:27:16PM PUBLIC COMMENTS FALLS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF 45 MINUTES
12:27:20PM AND TACK ON -- IF ANYBODY WANTS TO STAY AT THE END OF THE
12:27:24PM MEETING TO ARE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:27:25PM WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
12:27:26PM I BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL RULES HAVE 30 MINUTES INITIALLY.
12:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON THE AGENDA.
12:27:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR RULES.
12:27:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALREADY HAVE A RULE THAT SAYS 30
12:27:36PM MINUTES.
12:27:36PM WE ARE INCREASING IT BY 15 MINUTES WHICH SHOULD CAPTURE WHAT
12:27:40PM WE ARE -- OUR CURRENT BUSINESS PRACTICE WITH INJECTING
12:27:45PM PREDICTABILITY FOR ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE.
12:27:47PM REMEMBER, WE -- WE OWE A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR THEIR TIME,
12:27:51PM ENERGY AND MONEY AND ATTENTION.
12:27:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I JUST RAISE ONE ISSUE LEGALLY?
12:27:56PM YOU STRUCK NUMBER 10, WHICH WAS TO GIVE PRIORITY TO SPEAKERS
12:28:00PM WITH ON-AGENDA ITEMS.
12:28:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T HAVE SPEAKER CARDS, HOW DO WE
12:28:06PM KNOW?
12:28:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ASK.
12:28:07PM ONE WAY WE USED TO DO IT YEARS AGO.
12:28:09PM BUT THE REASON I -- THE REASON I RAISE THIS IS BECAUSE UNDER
12:28:14PM FLORIDA LAW, YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE REASONABLE
12:28:18PM OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING BEFORE YOU TAKE A FINAL
12:28:20PM VOTE.
12:28:20PM SO IF YOU HAVE 50 PEOPLE WHO SPEAK TO OFF-AGENDA ITEM AND
12:28:26PM DECIDE TO HOLD THAT UNTIL THE END.
12:28:30PM IT CAN'T BE DONE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS SITTING THERE
12:28:32PM WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU VOTE ON
12:28:35PM SOMETHING ON THE CONSENT DOCKET.
12:28:37PM VIOLATION OF FLORIDA LAW AND THE SPIRIT OF THE SUNSHINE LAW
12:28:40PM AND PUBLIC MEETINGS.
12:28:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ITEM NUMBER 14.
12:28:47PM DOES THAT STILL STAND?
12:28:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACTUALLY I AM -- I WANT TO BE --
12:28:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
12:28:57PM I WAS GOING TO VOTE NO ON 14.
12:28:59PM PREFER A LARGER TIME WITH 45 MINUTES WITH SAFEGUARDS.
12:29:03PM AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:29:06PM SPEAKER CARDS, THAT IS A VERY SMALL GUARDRAIL THAT I THINK
12:29:10PM WILL DO VERY, VERY WELL.
12:29:11PM THIS TO ME IS TOO MUCH -- 14, I WOULD PREFER SOMETHING MORE
12:29:17PM EXPANSIVE.
12:29:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I WITHDRAW THIS MOTION, MAKING DECISION
12:29:23PM ITEM 1 SPEAKER CARDS TO RECONSIDER WITH TACKING THAT ON TO
12:29:28PM THE PRIORITY GIVEN TO AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSIONS?
12:29:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THERE A MOTION ON SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS?
12:29:35PM THERE WAS?
12:29:36PM WERE YOU ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS?
12:29:39PM IT FAILED?
12:29:40PM SO SOMEBODY ON THE PREVAILING SIDE CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO
12:29:43PM BRING IT BACK FOR RECONSIDERATION IF THEY WANT IT TO.
12:29:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY WHO VOTED AGAINST THE USE OF
12:29:49PM SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS MAKE A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK?
12:29:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THOUGHT WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR
12:29:55PM THE 45 MINUTE?
12:29:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:58 ANY OPPOSED?
12:30:00 NAY.
12:30:01 MADAM CLERK?
12:30:03 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH EVERYONE BUT CLENDENIN
12:30:05 VOTING NO.
12:30:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES SOMEBODY ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF
12:30:09 THE NO VOTE, MEANING YOU VOTED AGAINST THE USE OF SPEAKER
12:30:12 WAIVER CARD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BRING IT BACK FOR
12:30:14 RECONSIDERATION?
12:30:30 >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL SAY AS FAR AS PUBLIC COMMENT
12:30:31 SHEETS, THEY ARE NOT VERY HELPFUL FOR THE CLERK BECAUSE
12:30:35 EVERYONE DOES NOT SIGN IN SO WE ARE TAKING A LOT OF TIME
12:30:38 JUST TO FIGURE OUT SPELLING OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SPEAK,
12:30:41 ESPECIALLY WHAT THEY ARE SPEAKING ON.
12:30:43 SO PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE
12:30:46 CLERK'S OFFICE.
12:30:47 AND ON TOP OF THAT I KNOW MARTY DID NOT BRING UP THE FACT
12:30:50 THAT NONAGENDA ITEMS IN THE PAST NEEDS TO BE HEARD AT THE
12:30:53 VERY END OF THE AGENDA.
12:30:54 SO HAVE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL.
12:30:57 JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THERE.
12:30:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:31:03 >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER MIND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A --
12:31:10 >>> WERE YOU ON THE PREVAILING SIDE?
12:31:13 SO THE POINT IS THE MOOT ABOUT SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS.
12:31:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:31:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO RECONSIDER FAILS?
12:31:24 >> BECAUSE I VOTED IN FAVOR.
12:31:26 SOMEBODY THAT VOTED AGAINST IT.
12:31:29 I STAND CORRECTED.
12:31:32 WE MOVE ON TO A NEW SUBJECT MATTER.
12:31:34 STAFF REPORTS.
12:31:35 WE START ALL OVER FROM ITEM NUMBER 1 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:31:39 SET STRICT LIMITS ON THE TOTAL NUMBER AND STRICT LIMITS PER
12:31:42 COUNCILMEMBER PER MEETING.
12:31:45 NOW WE.
12:31:46 GOTTEN INTO THE NUMBERS THAT MAY FOLLOW IN A WAY.
12:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:31:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:31:56 DISCUSSION.
12:31:58 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:31:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE LATER ON NUMBER 2 TALKS ABOUT A
12:32:02 LIMIT ON TOTAL NUMBER.
12:32:04 BUT I DISAGREE ON PER COUNCILMEMBER BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE
12:32:09 WILL SHARE ITEMS OR SOMEONE WILL BRING UP MULTIPLE THINGS.
12:32:12 DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE -- THAT SHOULD NOT BE A WAY -- WE
12:32:15 ARE ADDING THINGS JUST TO ADD THEM.
12:32:17 WE ARE ADDING A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION, AND IT'S NOT REALLY,
12:32:21 OH, YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE OF THESE.
12:32:23 DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY.
12:32:25 BECAUSE SOME OF US MOTION ON ONE THING, LIKE MR. VIERA WILL
12:32:29 OFTEN BE FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.
12:32:32 AND I WILL OFTENTIMES DO A LOT OF HOUSING ISSUES.
12:32:35 SO I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO JUST HAVE ONE PER
12:32:40 COUNCILMEMBER PER MEETING.
12:32:42 BUT I AM OPEN TO A LIMIT OF 7 GOING ON WITH NUMBER 2.
12:32:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR ITEM
12:32:50 NUMBER 1.
12:32:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:56 IT'S 6 YES AND --
12:33:03 >> NO.
12:33:06 >> SO IT'S A STRICT LIMIT FOR TOTAL NUMBER AND STRICT LIMIT
12:33:10 PER COUNCILMEMBER PER MEETING?
12:33:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:33:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK NUMBER 1 IS AN ASPIRATION.
12:33:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 1
12:33:26 NOW THAT THE MAKER HAS WITHDRAWN?
12:33:29 ITEM NUMBER 1 FAILS.
12:33:31 WAIT, I NEED A SECOND.
12:33:34 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:33:35 IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:33:38 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SET A LIMIT OF 7 IN-PERSON PER
12:33:47 MEETING.
12:33:47 SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO THREE OR FOUR ON
12:33:52 A PARTICULAR DATE, THAT'S GREAT.
12:33:54 BUT JUST TO FUTURE AGAIN SOME LEVEL OF LIMITATION ON THAT.
12:33:58 I'M FINE WITH THAT.
12:33:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT AND JUST SAY A LIMIT
12:34:05 OF SEVEN IN-PERSON STAFF REPORTS PER MEETING, PERIOD?
12:34:14 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 10 TO 12.
12:34:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE'S ALSO A CONCEPT OF WRITTEN REPORTS
12:34:18 THAT WE CAN GET TO IN A SECOND.
12:34:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO HARKEN BACK AND PROBABLY SET
12:34:26 THIS LATER ON, THAT IF SOMEBODY DURING ONE MEETING MAKES A
12:34:29 MOTION TO PUT ON SEVEN STAFF REPORTS AND IT BRINGS -- OR
12:34:33 MAKES A MOTION FOR THREE STAFF REPORTS OR WHATEVER AND
12:34:36 BRINGS YOU TO THE SEVEN TOTAL, THEN EVERY OTHER
12:34:38 COUNCILMEMBER IS PRECLUDED UNLESS IT'S A WAIVER OF THE RULES
12:34:41 WHICH WE WILL GET TO IN A BIT.
12:34:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT KNOWING US, THAT'S NOT REALLY -- I MEAN,
12:34:50 NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE STAFF REPORTS.
12:34:54 I THINK WE ARE ALL -- OFTENTIMES IF SOMEONE SAYS, OH, I
12:34:58 WOULD LIKE TO DO APRIL 15th AND THEY'LL SAY, OH, APRIL
12:35:02 15th IS FULL, HE THEY'LL SAY OKAY, FINE, JUNE.
12:35:07 THERE ARE VERY FEW THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE TO COME BACK, SO I
12:35:12 THINK ALL OF US ARE BEING AMENABLE TO MOVING THINGS AROUND
12:35:15 IF WE NEED TO.
12:35:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I UNDERSTAND, IT SAYS LIMIT OF SEVEN
12:35:21 STAFF REPORTS PER MEETING.
12:35:23 IS IT YOUR MOTION TO STRIKE THE ONE?
12:35:27 >> YES, SIR.
12:35:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:35:33 SEVEN IN-PERSON STAFF REPORTS PER MEETING.
12:35:36 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:35:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:35:39 ANY OPPOSED?
12:35:41 THANK YOU.
12:35:42 ITEM NUMBER 3.
12:35:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 3, SET A PRESENTATION LIMIT AND
12:35:48 MAXIMUM TIME LIMIT AT THE START OF EACH STAFF REPORT.
12:35:51 SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED AND THEN
12:35:54 YOU SET THE TIMER FOR THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS OR
12:35:58 WHATEVER IS REASONABLE FOR COUNCIL.
12:35:59 BASICALLY RIGHT NOW THEY TRY, THE STAFF WORKS VERY HARD TO
12:36:04 TRY TO KEEP IT TO FIVE MINUTES FOR THE PRESENTATION TIME.
12:36:07 SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANT THAT TIME LIMIT IN
12:36:12 THERE.
12:36:12 AND BY THE WAY, THE OTHER THING IS, THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMIT
12:36:15 FOR HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT TO SPEND ON A STAFF REPORT.
12:36:18 I HAVE HEARD COMMENTS THAT A LOT OF STAFF REPORTS TURN INTO
12:36:22 SOMETIMES A 90-MINUTE WORKSHOP.
12:36:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:36:29 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:36:31 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN THIS DOESN'T HAVE THE SPECIFICITY
12:36:37 THERE.
12:36:37 WE CAN DO A STAFF REPORT MAKE THE OVERALL STAFF REPORT 30
12:36:43 MINUTES UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME ARE GOING TO GO LONGER, SOME
12:36:46 SHORTER.
12:36:47 I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
12:36:48 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:36:50 I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT AT LEAST UP HERE, SOME OF
12:36:53 THE ISSUE HAS BEEN IS THAT WE DON'T RECEIVE THE STAFF REPORT
12:36:57 RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW.
12:36:59 WE RECEIVE IT AT THE LAST MINUTE.
12:37:01 AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT AND THEN THEY COME
12:37:04 AND THEY ARE PRESENTING IT.
12:37:06 THAT'S MORE SO THE ISSUE.
12:37:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:37:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:37:13 I ALSO BELIEVE THAT SOME PROJECTS ARE SIMPLY BIGGER.
12:37:16 SO IF STAFF SAYS WE WILL PRESENT IN TEN MINUTES BUT THEN WE
12:37:21 ALL HAVE A RANGE OF QUESTIONS, I THINK WE ARE JUST NARROWING
12:37:25 OURSELVES.
12:37:26 I THINK THE NARROWING IS 7 AND 8 STAFF REPORTS PER MEETING,
12:37:32 AND THEN MAYBE IF WE WANTED TO NARROW IT FURTHER, COUNCIL
12:37:37 MEMBERS GET FIVE MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING, BUT THE REBUTTAL
12:37:40 WOULD ONLY BE TWO MINUTES.
12:37:42 >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST DEPENDING ON THE TOPIC, WE CAN'T
12:37:50 DECIDE AT THE TOP OF THE PRESENTATION EACH COUNCIL GETS
12:37:52 THREE MINUTES OR FIVE MINUTES OR THEY GET -- YOU KNOW, WE
12:37:55 COULD DECIDE THAT COMPANY DEPENDING ON THE TOPIC BECAUSE IT
12:37:59 COULD BE REALLY BIG, SO THE MEETING, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE
12:38:02 SO RIGID.
12:38:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR ITEM
12:38:10 NUMBER 3.
12:38:10 YES?
12:38:12 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO AMEND MY MOTION, IF I MAY, WHICH IS
12:38:15 THE TIME LIMIT WOULD BE -- WE CAN DO FIVE OR TEN MINUTES FOR
12:38:18 THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN TWO BITES AT THE APPLE, FIVE
12:38:23 MINUTES, TWO MINUTES.
12:38:25 THAT SHOULD GET US TO WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD BE.
12:38:28 I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
12:38:32 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS THE SECONDER, I ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT.
12:38:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
12:38:42 ANY OPPOSED?
12:38:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:38:48 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:38:49 >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
12:38:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:38:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
12:38:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
12:38:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:38:58 >> MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, HENDERSON, MIRANDA AND CARLSON
12:39:02 VOTING NO.
12:39:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STRIKE THREE.
12:39:06 NUMBER 4.
12:39:08 CALL STAFF BEFORE MAKING A MOTION FOR STAFF REPORT TO ASK
12:39:11 QUESTIONS GET INFORMATION OR SEEK A TIME FRAME FOR RESPONSE.
12:39:14 HENDERSON, VIERA.
12:39:16 ALL THIS FAVOR?
12:39:16 >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS CAN REALLY
12:39:23 HELP NARROW AND TAILOR YOUR MOTION.
12:39:26 I HAVE FOUND THAT THE MORE I DO THIS, THE BETTER, AND
12:39:30 SHORTER PRESENTATION WE HAVE, AND THE ANSWER TO THE
12:39:34 QUESTION, OFTENTIMES THEY WILL WRITE THE MOTION FOR ME WHICH
12:39:38 IS, A, VERY HANDY, AND B, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE IDEA OF
12:39:42 WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, WHICH IS THE GOAL.
12:39:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:39:47 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS UNDER STAFF REPORTS SO THE INTENT
12:39:50 OF THIS IS JUST PERTAINING TO STAFF REPORTS WHERE YOU MAKE A
12:39:53 MOTION FOR STAFF WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REACH OUT TO
12:39:56 STAFF.
12:39:56 IS THAT CORRECT?
12:39:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:40:00 AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
12:40:01 AND IF YOU ACTUALLY --
12:40:03 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS MOTION SAYS.
12:40:05 >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, OKAY.
12:40:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I GUESS THE QUESTION THEN IS, WHAT'S THE
12:40:12 WORD, ASPIRATIONAL?
12:40:15 OR IS THIS REQUIRED?
12:40:16 BECAUSE SOMETIMES I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT MOTIONS TO
12:40:20 MAKE STAFF REPORTS COME UP AS THE BASIS OF LET'S SAY PUBLIC
12:40:23 COMMENT OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT TAKES PLACE DURING THE
12:40:25 MEETING, AND UNDER NEW BUSINESS YOU MAKE A MOTION FOR A
12:40:28 STAFF REPORTING.
12:40:29 >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WILL AMEND THIS MOTION TO SAY EITHER
12:40:44 BEFORE STAFF REPORT TO ASK QUESTIONS, GET INFORMATION OR
12:40:47 SEEK A TIME FRAME FOR RESPONSE, OR REACH OUT AFTER A -- HOW
12:41:00 DO YOU SAY THAT, OFF-THE-CUFF?
12:41:04 >> CONSIDERATION FOR --
12:41:07 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, OFF-THE-CUFF MOTION, OR AT-THE-TIME
12:41:12 MOTION, AND WITHIN THE TWO-WEEK PERIOD BETWEEN THAT MEETING
12:41:16 AND THE NEXT MEETING HAVE -- CLARIFIED IT.
12:41:22 DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?
12:41:24 SO BASICALLY WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF I MAKE A MOTION THAT
12:41:27 STAFF NEEDS TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT WATER BILLS, I WILL
12:41:30 THEN CALL STAFF AFTERWARDS AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S THE TIME
12:41:33 FRAME FOR THE WATER BILLS?
12:41:35 I REALLY WANT TO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS LINE DOESN'T
12:41:36 MAKE ANY SENSE.
12:41:37 AND THEN I CAN COME BACK AND SAY WE CLARIFIED THIS MOTION TO
12:41:42 BE X, Y, Z.
12:41:44 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IF YOU
12:41:47 TOOK OUT THE -- CALL STAFF, AFTER MAKING THE MOTION, SO YOU
12:41:54 GIVE THEM CLARIFICATION OWN YOUR REQUEST.
12:41:56 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:41:57 BUT THEN WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO THE RECORD WITH THE CLERK SO
12:41:59 WE WOULD NEED TO RESTATE THAT MOTION, IF NECESSARY.
12:42:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCIL CLENDENIN.
12:42:06 DO YOU HAVE MORE?
12:42:09 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:42:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME IN COURT ESPECIALLY
12:42:13 FEDERAL COURT THAT YOU MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT WITH
12:42:17 OPPOSING COUNCIL TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES.
12:42:19 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THIS IS A DUTY TO SPEAK TO STAFF
12:42:22 ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE STAFF REPORT, AND THAT WE CAN
12:42:26 CERTAINTY -- I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A PROPER TERM -- AFTER
12:42:30 DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT CAN LAWYER THE TIME OF THE STAFF
12:42:33 REPORT.
12:42:35 I DON'T CALL THEM BEFORE AND I GO, OH, YEAH, MY BAD.
12:42:39 SO AGAIN I THINK IT LOWERS TIME.
12:42:42 I. BEGINNING TO ASK COUNCIL TO FLIP TO PAGE 4 TO GO TO
12:42:45 PROCEDURES TO TAKE A LOOK AT NUMBER 7, BECAUSE I THINK
12:42:48 THAT'S ALL ROLE ADJUVANT FOR NOT ONLY STAFF REPORTS BUT FOR
12:42:51 EVERYTHING.
12:42:52 AND THE MOTION MUST BE CLEARLY STATED AND PREFERABLY GIVEN
12:42:56 IN WRITING TO THE CLERK.
12:42:57 DISTRICT OFFICES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THE MINUTES
12:43:00 FOR THE ACCURACY AND CLARITY OF THE MOTION.
12:43:03 CITY STAFF SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT THE COUNCIL
12:43:06 MEMBERS OFFICE BEFORE PREPARING A RESPONSE IF IT IS UNCLEAR.
12:43:10 THAT REALLY PUTS THE ONUS ON STAFF, BUT A LOT OF TIMES, WHAT
12:43:14 HAPPENS IS, WHEN THE MINUTES COME OUT, YOU DON'T WANT TO
12:43:21 HAVE STAFF BEING IN A POSITION OF NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
12:43:23 PURPOSE AND THE THRUST OF THE MOTION IS, AND THEN COME BACK
12:43:26 IN, AND UNLAWFUL HAD EXPERIENCE OF SAYING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
12:43:30 YOU MEANT, ON THE DAY OF THE ITEM.
12:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, CLENDENIN.
12:43:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT WE JUST ADD "AFTER," CALL STAFF
12:43:43 BEFORE OR AFTER MAKING A MOTION FOR A STAFF REPORT BUT YOU
12:43:46 MUST CALL STAFF TO ASK QUESTIONS, GET INFORMATION AND PICK A
12:43:50 TIME FRAME.
12:43:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
12:43:51 MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, SECONDED BY VIERA.
12:43:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:43:58 >> WHY DO YOU KEEP DISAPPEARING, MIKE?
12:44:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S MESSY.
12:44:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 5 IS ACCEPT A WRITTEN
12:44:13 REPORT IN LIEU OF AN APPEARANCE WHEN MAKING MOTION.
12:44:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT BUT WOULD THAT BE IN
12:44:20 PART OF --
12:44:24 >>> MOTION BY HURTAK, SECONDED BY CLENDENIN.
12:44:26 ANY DISCUSSION?
12:44:27 YES?
12:44:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT NORMALLY WE
12:44:31 DON'T SAY THAT WHEN MAKING THE MOTION BUT IF WE JUST WANT A
12:44:34 WRITTEN REPORT WE NEED TO BE MORE CLEAR WITH EITHER STAFF
12:44:38 REPORT OR WRITTEN REPORT.
12:44:39 I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE WORD EITHER STAFF REPORT OR
12:44:43 WRITTEN.
12:44:44 THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE POINT IS.
12:44:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GO TO NUMBER 9 BECAUSE THIS CLARIFIES
12:44:49 NUMBER 9.
12:44:51 SAYING IF A STAFF REPORT, THE WAY THIS SUGGESTION IS
12:44:54 PHRASED, STAFF REPORTS DESIGNATED WRITTEN ONLY HAVE A
12:44:58 LIMITATION.
12:44:59 THEY ARE NOT DISCUSSED AND ONLY RECEIVED AND FILED, WHICH
12:45:03 MEANS STAFF WILL NOT BE HERE.
12:45:07 EVEN IF YOU WANT THEM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU MAKE
12:45:09 THE MOTION, BECAUSE IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED AFTER RECEIVING
12:45:14 REPORT, IT IS SET FOR A FUTURE DATE WITH STAFF PRESENT SO
12:45:17 THAT STAFF CAN BE PREPARED.
12:45:18 >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE HAVE STAFF REPORTS AND STAFF
12:45:24 PRESENTATIONS?
12:45:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DEPENDS IF YOU WANT TO RENAME IT.
12:45:28 YOU CAN SAY WRITTEN REPORT.
12:45:29 IF IT'S WRITTEN ONLY, THEN STAFF WILL NOT BE THERE.
12:45:32 IF IT'S STAFF TO APPEAR, THEN YOU ARE SUGGESTING AND
12:45:36 REQUESTING STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSON IS PRESENT.
12:45:39 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL PUT 5 AND 9 TOGETHER.
12:45:44 I'M SORRY, WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT.
12:45:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN.
12:45:46 IT SAVES TIME.
12:45:49 >>LYNN HURTAK: FINE.
12:45:50 PUT 5 AND 9 TOGETHER, REQUIRE TO BE WRITTEN OR IN PERSON,
12:45:54 AND THAT WAY IF IT'S WRITTEN WE CAN ONLY READ IT AND SET IT
12:45:57 FOR FUTURE DATE IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
12:46:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:46:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:46:07 6 AND 7.
12:46:08 RENAME STAFF REPORTS TO POLICY DISCUSSIONS, SEPARATE POLICY
12:46:12 DISCUSSIONS FROM STAFF REPORTS.
12:46:13 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:46:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S CONFUSING.
12:46:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S HAVE A VERY LONG DISCUSSION. IS
12:46:24 THERE A MOTION ON THAT?
12:46:26 NO?
12:46:27 SO THERE'S NO MOTION FOR 6 AND 7.
12:46:29 IS THAT CORRECT?
12:46:30 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:46:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:46:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 8.
12:46:39 THE LIMIT ON NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS DOES NOT APPLY TO
12:46:42 DOLLAR THRESHOLD STAFF REPORTS REQUIRED BY COUNCIL RULES.
12:46:45 SO IT'S 7 PLUS THE ITEMS THAT ARE OVER $3 MILLION BECAUSE OF
12:46:49 THE CONSENT DOCKET HAS TO BE PLACED ON THE STAFF REPORT.
12:46:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
12:46:55 VIERA.
12:46:55 SECOND BY HURTAK.
12:46:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:46:58 MOTION.
12:46:59 MOTION PRIOR, NUMBER 9.
12:47:02 OH, NUMBER 9 --
12:47:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5 AND 9 WAS ONE MOTION.
12:47:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN HAVE STAFF REPORTS BY DEPARTMENTS
12:47:13 ON A ROTATING BASIS.
12:47:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO MAKE UP PARTICULAR
12:47:19 DAYS MAYBE OR APPROVED THEM TOGETHER BY DEPARTMENTS.
12:47:23 >>BILL CARLSON: DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED.
12:47:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN CONSIDER BUT
12:47:27 NOT TAKE ACTION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
12:47:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS NO MOTION.
12:47:31 ITEM 10 DIES.
12:47:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PROCEDURES.
12:47:40 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
12:47:42 I'M DOING 1.
12:47:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
12:47:47 CLENDENIN WITH A SECOND BY HURTAK.
12:47:51 COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON.
12:47:52 >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OUT INVOCATIONS NOT
12:47:57 DO ANYTHING AND NOT WASTE MORE TIME.
12:48:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:48:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD KEEP INVOCATIONS.
12:48:10 I THINK IF WE TOOK IT OUT WE WOULD REGRET IT.
12:48:14 >>LYNN HURTAK: IT DOESN'T SAY TO TAKE IT OUT.
12:48:18 IT JUST SAYS CONSIDER.
12:48:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE IN THE RULES
12:48:23 SPECIFICALLY UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO BE.
12:48:27 DO THE COUNTY COMMISSION DO ANYTHING, OTHER BODIES IN
12:48:32 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, DO THEY DO --
12:48:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW A BOARD THAT DOESN'T BUT I
12:48:38 HAVEN'T INVESTIGATED.
12:48:39 I HAVEN'T DONE A SURVEY.
12:48:45 >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST ON THIS, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE
12:48:49 INVOCATION.
12:48:51 IT'S A GREAT WAY TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
12:48:55 SPIRITUAL REALITY COMING TO IT AND PRAYING AS A COUNCIL.
12:49:01 AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN AND DO A
12:49:05 MOMENT OF SILENCE LIKE WE HAVE DONE THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS
12:49:08 THAT'S FINE, BUT I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE THE
12:49:11 OPTION.
12:49:11 I ACTUALLY LIKE DOING THAT.
12:49:13 I WANT TO KEEP IT.
12:49:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT ARE
12:49:18 ADDRESSED IN 1 THROUGH 2 AND 3, BY THE WAY, WHICH -- AND 4.
12:49:24 I THINK THAT'S FINE.
12:49:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
12:49:28 IS JUST ITEM NUMBER 1.
12:49:29 MOTION AND SECOND.
12:49:30 ALL THIS FAVOR?
12:49:32 ANYONE OPPOSED?
12:49:34 IS IT A TIE VOTE?
12:49:36 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. SO THE MOTION DID FAIL.
12:49:43 ALL RIGHT.
12:49:43 ITEM NUMBER 1.
12:49:44 ITEM NUMBER 2.
12:49:45 SHORTEN THE LENGTH OF THE INTRODUCTORY BIO FOR THE PERSON
12:49:47 INVITED TO GIVE THE INVOCATION, SET A TIME TO MAKE IT
12:49:51 UNIFORM, AND WE CAN DO IT IN A MINUTE, IF IT'S A LENGTHY
12:49:56 BIO.
12:49:56 WAIT, I'M SORRY, IS THERE A MOTION?
12:49:59 THERE IS A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:50:02 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:50:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:05 ALL RIGHT.
12:50:08 DISTRICT OFFICES SHOULD INFORM THE I.T. IN ADVANCE OF THE
12:50:11 PREFERRED LENGTH OF THE INVOCATION.
12:50:14 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:50:18 A SECOND?
12:50:19 >> SECOND.
12:50:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU DON'T LET THEM KNOW THEY WON'T
12:50:27 COME.
12:50:29 MOTION AND SECOND.
12:50:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:31 ITEM NUMBER 4.
12:50:32 DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND?
12:50:34 PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
12:50:36 TIME LIMITS ON COUNCIL DISCUSSION DEBATE.
12:50:40 5 MINUTES ON THE FIRST GO AROUND.
12:50:42 3 MINUTES ON THE SECOND GO AROUND.
12:50:44 >>GWEN HENDERSON: DON'T WE DO THAT?
12:50:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT THREE MINUTES ON THE SECOND GO
12:50:49 AROUND.
12:50:49 WE CALL IT A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE.
12:50:52 >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTION IF I MAY.
12:50:55 DOES THIS APPLY TO CRA, TOO?
12:50:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS OF NOW, NO.
12:51:01 AND MR. MASSEY HAS TOLD ME THAT NORMALLY THE CRA RULES OF
12:51:05 PROCEDURE TRACK CITY COUNCIL'S.
12:51:08 BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO ADOPT THAT AT CRA.
12:51:11 AND IF I MAY --
12:51:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE MAY BE TIMES I WANT TO SPEAK SIX OR
12:51:18 SEVEN MINUTES. SO I HAVE TO SHUT UP.
12:51:18 ABSOLUTELY. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON FIRE STATION 25, I
12:51:21 SPOKE FOR LIKE 16 MINUTES, ONE TIME 17 MINUTES THE FIRST
12:51:25 TIME I INTRODUCED IT.
12:51:27 SO, YEAH, THE POINT IS ALL OF THESE TO MAKE SACRIFICES FOR
12:51:33 THE GREATER GOOD, AND I'M ALL FOR THAT.
12:51:35 I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
12:51:37 YES.
12:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
12:51:40 YES, MA'AM?
12:51:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT FIVE MINUTES FIRST
12:51:43 GO-AROUND IS FINE, THREE MINUTES SECOND GO-AROUND BUT
12:51:48 SOMETIMES CONVERSATION WILL LEAD TO SOME BACK AND FORTH BUT
12:51:50 I THINK THE POINT BEING THAT EVERY OTHER BITE SHOULD BE
12:51:53 THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
12:51:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:51:58 SO ALL IN FAVOR?
12:52:00 ANY OPPOSED?
12:52:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT VERY
12:52:03 BRIEFLY.
12:52:04 YOUR RULES ALREADY STATE THAT THERE IS NO SECOND GO AROUND,
12:52:07 UNLESS EVERYBODY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO A FIRST ROUND.
12:52:11 SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF WHEN YOU HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED.
12:52:14 JUST BE MINDFUL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE
12:52:17 HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, FIRST OF ALL.
12:52:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:52:25 MOTION TO APPROVE.
12:52:28 ITEM NUMBER 5.
12:52:28 DO NOT ENGAGE ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER WHEN ANOTHER MEMBER HAS
12:52:31 THE FLOOR WITHOUT FIRST BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.
12:52:36 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:52:37 SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON.
12:52:40 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE DO BY ROBERTS RULES, IT'S ACTUALLY
12:52:47 ROBERTS RULES.
12:52:48 I THINK REMINDING SOME PEOPLE THAT IT'S A RULE BUT IS IT NOT
12:52:51 REDUNDANT?
12:52:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S CALLED OUT BY
12:52:55 COUNCIL.
12:52:55 YOU CAN SITE AND SAY IT'S BY ROBERTS RULES.
12:52:59 YOU CAN STILL DO A POINT OF ORDER.
12:53:01 THIS WAS A SUGGESTION TO BE PLACED IN THERE BECAUSE WHAT
12:53:03 HAPPENS PARTICULARLY IS WHEN IT STARTS TO REFERENCE BACK TO
12:53:06 WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAYS WHEN IT STARTS GOING INTO A
12:53:10 BACK AND FORTH, THEN THE CHAIR LOSES CONTROL OF THE MEETING
12:53:13 BECAUSE --
12:53:18 >> WHAT?
12:53:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT SAYING IT HAPPENS.
12:53:23 IT COULD HAPPEN.
12:53:24 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALREADY HAVE A RULE.
12:53:28 OUR RULES ARE GOVERNED BY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER SO IT
12:53:31 SEEMS REDUNDANT, BUT I AM FINE WITH LEAVING IT.
12:53:34 IT'S FINE.
12:53:34 >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT ACTUALLY DOES HAPPEN QUITE A BIT.
12:53:37 IT HAPPENS ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MEETING, A PERSON CAN BE
12:53:40 TALKING AND SOMEONE WILL INTERRUPT AND CHIME IN AND COMPLETE
12:53:44 A THOUGHT. IT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT.
12:53:47 I RECOMMEND THAT WE ADDRESS IT AS IS WRITTEN HERE, BECAUSE
12:53:54 IF NOT, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A POINT OF ORDER, AND THEN THE
12:53:59 CHAIR MAY OR MAY NOT, AND ALSO PEOPLE ARE TALKING WHILE
12:54:02 OTHER PEOPLE ARE TALKING.
12:54:04 SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CLEAN THIS UP BECAUSE IT HAPPENS
12:54:08 QUITE A BIT.
12:54:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
12:54:12 ANY OPPOSED?
12:54:12 ITEM NUMBER 6.
12:54:13 DO NOT INTERRUPT PRESENTATIONS.
12:54:17 HOLD YOUR QUESTION UNTIL THE CHAIR DURING Q AND A.
12:54:21 >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
12:54:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY HURTAK.
12:54:26 YES, MA'AM?
12:54:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: I LIKE THIS ONLY IF WE ADD THE SENTENCE,
12:54:32 STAFF SHOULD INCLUDE NATURAL STOPPING SPACES.
12:54:36 IF IT'S A 25 PAGE, THERE'S NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE
12:54:40 END SO THERE NEEDS TO BE NATURAL STOPPING SPOTS FOR
12:54:44 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
12:54:45 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:54:49 STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN INTERRUPTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR
12:54:52 COMMUNICATION, AND THAT IS THE PART THAT NEEDS TO BE
12:54:55 CLEARED.
12:54:55 COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD NOT DISRESPECT STAFF IF THEY DON'T
12:54:58 LIKE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
12:55:00 AND INTERRUPT THEM FROM SPEAKING.
12:55:05 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS UNNECESSARILY TYING OUR HANDS BECAUSE
12:55:15 THERE SHOULD BE -- DEPENDING ON THE PRESENTATION, I DO NOT
12:55:19 UNDERSTAND WHY COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO ENGAGE IN THAT,
12:55:25 QUESTION AND ANSWER DURING THE PRESENTATION.
12:55:27 I THINK AS A GENERAL PRACTICE, IT'S PROBABLY GOOD PRACTICE
12:55:30 TO WAIT TILL THE END.
12:55:32 WE HAVE ALL LEARNED THAT IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
12:55:34 BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE SHOULD TIE OUR HANDS TO
12:55:36 THIS.
12:55:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
12:55:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS AGAIN WHY WE SHOULD REQUIRE STAFF TO
12:55:45 ADD ADDITIONAL STOPPING POINTS, BUT ALSO THIS GOES TO THE
12:55:51 IDEA THAT IF WE DON'T GET THE PRESENTATIONS BEFOREHAND, SO
12:55:55 WE HAVE THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND GO THROUGH IT, BECAUSE
12:55:58 OFTENTIMES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE HIM,
12:56:01 THAT'S WHEN WE TEND TO INTERRUPT WITH QUESTIONS, WHEREAS IF
12:56:04 WE HAD THE PRESENTATION AHEAD OF TIME, WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO
12:56:08 ABSORB IT AND WRITE NOTES, THEN WE ARE LESS LIKELY TO
12:56:12 INTERRUPT THE PRESENTATION.
12:56:13 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE NATURAL STOPPING POINT I AM GOOD WITH
12:56:18 THAT.
12:56:18 I JUST WANT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR SENTENCES AND
12:56:21 MAKE STATEMENTS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IN THEIR
12:56:23 PRESENTATION.
12:56:24 AND SO A NATURAL STOPPING POINT, YES, WE SHOULD ASK STAFF
12:56:28 FOR THAT IN THE MIDST OF A PRESENTATION.
12:56:30 IT'S BETTER THAN HAVING TO WAIT TILL THE VERY END.
12:56:33 IT COULD BE THAT SLIDE BEFORE THEY MOVE ON, CONCERNS,
12:56:39 QUESTIONS, AND ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC OF THAT PARTICULAR
12:56:42 SLIDE, BUT NOT TO INTERRUPT THEM WHILE THEY ARE TALKING.
12:56:47 >> SO IT SOUNDS TO BE ME, COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON, YOU ARE
12:56:52 BASICALLY REMINDING EVERYBODY OF BASIC COURTESY OF WHEN
12:56:56 FOLKS ARE SPEAKING.
12:56:57 BECAUSE I AM GUILTY OF THE EXACT SAME THING.
12:57:03 >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF NOT, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, I WILL CALL
12:57:06 FOR THE CHAIR TO ALLOW THE STAFF MEMBER TO FINISH THEIR
12:57:11 SENTENCE.
12:57:11 BUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
12:57:14 WE SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL TO STAFF.
12:57:17 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS
12:57:22 INTERNALLY AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A RULE TO IT, A RULE FOR
12:57:25 EVERYTHING.
12:57:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
12:57:28 YES?
12:57:38 >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND BOTH OF YOU ALL'S POINTS, AND I
12:57:42 THINK THE BIGGER THING FOR ME IS NOT THE "DO NOT INTERRUPT"
12:57:51 BUT MAKE SURE STAFF HAS NATURAL STOPPING POINTS THROUGHOUT
12:57:54 THE PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN ASK OUR QUESTIONS BEFORE
12:57:57 MOVING ON.
12:57:58 SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE FINDING IT INTERNALLY.
12:58:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THERE'S NO NEED TO INTERRUPT
12:58:04 BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PAUSE WHERE IS WE CAN ASK OUR QUESTIONS.
12:58:06 SO THAT IS THE MOTION.
12:58:08 THE MOTION WOULD BE DO NOT INTERRUPT PRESENTATIONS, BUT --
12:58:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WROTE DOWN STAFF SHOULD PROVIDE Q AND A
12:58:19 STOPPING POINTS.
12:58:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO FINISH MY SENTENCE, BUT
12:58:23 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:58:27 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK IF I RECALL, I MADE THE MOTION, AND
12:58:30 AGAIN DO NOT INTERRUPT PRESENTATIONS, NOTE YOUR QUESTION BUT
12:58:36 RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR DURING Q AND A, AS COUNCILWOMAN
12:58:39 HURTAK SAID, PAUSES IN PRESENTATIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
12:58:43 ASK QUESTIONS.
12:58:44 I THINK THAT'S A GREAT RULE.
12:58:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I AM GOING TO TAKE MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE
12:58:52 TO TAKE OUT "DO NOT INTERRUPT PRESENTATIONS" AND SIMPLY SAY
12:58:58 NOTE YOUR QUESTION DURING A PRESENTATION, AND HOLD IT TILL
12:59:05 RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR DURING Q AND A, PERIOD.
12:59:09 STAFF MUST INCLUDE STOPPING SPOTS THROUGHOUT THE
12:59:12 PRESENTATION FOR Q AND A.
12:59:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH.
12:59:19 COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:59:21 >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS GOING TO ADD, I AGREE WITH THAT.
12:59:27 TURNING ON OUR LIGHT IDENTIFIES THAT WE HAVE A QUESTION.
12:59:30 >> SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT.
12:59:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE AMENDMENT FROM HURTAK,
12:59:39 SECOND FROM VIERA.
12:59:40 ALL THIS FAVOR?
12:59:44 ANY OPPOSED?
12:59:46 ALL RIGHT.
12:59:50 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
12:59:52 COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON, YES.
12:59:55 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU COULD HAVE SIMPLE MOTIONS OR
01:00:00 PROCEDURAL MOTIONS.
01:00:01 WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
01:00:04 AND TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECESS, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN
01:00:07 WRITING?
01:00:09 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTIONS FOR ACTION MADE DURING INFORMATION
01:00:11 REPORTS.
01:00:13 THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
01:00:14 AND CLEARLY AND PREFERABLY GIVEN IN WRITING TO THE CLERK,
01:00:18 AGAIN SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T DO IT.
01:00:20 THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I DON'T THINK OF SOMETHING AND I MAKE A
01:00:23 MOTION ON THAT TODAY, I CAN WRITE IT DOWN BUT AGAIN THAT'S
01:00:27 THE PREFERABLE PART, THE EXPECTATION OF THE COURTESY TO THE
01:00:31 CLERK'S OFFICE.
01:00:31 I'M FINE WITH THAT.
01:00:34 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
01:00:35 THE PART FOR ME ESPECIALLY WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, THE MOTION
01:00:38 MUST BE CLEARLY STATED, SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE'S
01:00:44 AN AUDIENCE LISTENING TO US, AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR
01:00:48 THE MOTION IN ITS ENTIRETY.
01:00:49 THE CLERK SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR THE MOTION IN ITS ENTIRETY.
01:00:54 THAT PART IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
01:00:55 SOMETIMES WE JUST WILL STATE THE MOTION, IT'S NOT
01:01:00 NECESSARILY COMPLETE, WE GET THE SECOND, AND THEN WE ARE
01:01:03 VOTING ON IT, AND IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
01:01:07 AND THAT'S THE PART THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CLEAR UP.
01:01:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:01:13 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:01:14 FOR ME THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THE SEPARATE SENTENCE, DISTRICT
01:01:17 OFFICES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THE MINUTES FOR
01:01:19 ACCURACY AND CLARITY AND THEN CLEANING THOSE UP SO WHEN IT
01:01:22 ACTUALLY COMES BACK TO US WHEN I AM LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR
01:01:25 I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTION IS.
01:01:26 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE THE MOTION TO STRIKE PREFERABLY
01:01:33 GIVEN IN WRITING TO THE CLERK BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUSLY
01:01:36 STATED OBJECTION.
01:01:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
01:01:38 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:01:42 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE'S ALL KIND OF MOTIONS, A MOTION TO
01:01:45 RECESS.
01:01:46 THERE'S ALL KINDS OF MOTIONS.
01:01:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:01:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:01:53 ANY OPPOSED?
01:01:53 GREAT.
01:01:54 ITEM NUMBER 8.
01:01:54 REQUIRE A CONDITION AND CIRCUMSTANCE MEMO EXPLAINING THE
01:01:58 NEED FOR A WALK-ON ITEM AFTER THE AGENDA IS RELEASED.
01:02:02 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:02:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 50.
01:02:10 EXCUSE ME, IT WAS ON LAST WEEK'S AGENDA.
01:02:14 ON THIS WEEK'S AGENDA IT IS A WALK-ON.
01:02:18 SO THAT WOULD BE NUMBER 4 ON TODAY'S SPECIAL CALL.
01:02:23 SO WHAT I SUGGESTED THERE, I GAVE IT AS A SUMMARY FOR A
01:02:30 WALK-ON, SAMPLE LANGUAGE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION MIGHT
01:02:35 BE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
01:02:37 REQUEST TO WALK ON ITEM SEEKING COUNCIL APPROVAL THAT FAILED
01:02:40 TO MEET THE DEADLINE FOR INCLUSION WITHIN THE RELEASED
01:02:43 MEETING AGENDA ARE DISCOURAGED.
01:02:46 SUCH A REQUEST SHALL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A MEMORANDUM SETTING
01:02:49 FORTH THE CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT NECESSITATE
01:02:52 BYPASSING NORMAL PROTOCOL WHICH PROVIDES THE PUBLIC AND THE
01:02:55 CITY COUNCIL WITH APPROPRIATE NOTICE AND THE ABILITY TO
01:02:58 REVIEW BACKGROUND MATERIAL IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
01:03:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MOTION.
01:03:04 WE HAVE A SECOND. COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:03:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MY ISSUE, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH SOME
01:03:10 EXAMPLES, SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION TRIES
01:03:13 TO BLINDSIDE US AND SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T SO URGENT.
01:03:16 THERE WAS ONE RECENTLY WHERE IT COULD HE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED
01:03:21 IN DECEMBER AND INSTEAD IT WAS PRESENTED IN FEBRUARY AT THE
01:03:24 LAST MINUTE.
01:03:24 AND WHOEVER IS CHAIR I THINK NEEDS TO TAKE MORE DISCRETION
01:03:28 IN SAYING, NO, UNLESS SOMETHING IS ABSOLUTELY URGENT.
01:03:31 AND MARTY, IS THERE NO WAY THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THIS THAT IT
01:03:36 REALLY NEEDS TO BE URGENT, BUT ALSO IN EVERYTHING THAT COMES
01:03:38 BEFORE US, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHEN WE ASK IF IT'S
01:03:42 URGENT, AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT
01:03:48 WE NEED MORE TIME BECAUSE WE ARE ANSWERING TO THE PUBLIC,
01:03:50 THE PUBLIC HAS QUESTIONS. IF SOMETHING IS WALKED ON, THE
01:03:53 PUBLIC HAS NO IDEA THAT WE ARE EVEN DISCUSSING IT.
01:03:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: RIGHT.
01:03:58 WELL, IT SAYS THEY SHOULD TELL KNEW ADVANCE WHAT THE
01:04:01 CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES ARE.
01:04:03 >>BILL CARLSON: THEY CAN JUST WRITE A MEMO AND JUSTIFY WHY
01:04:06 THEY ARE WALKING IT ON. I WOULD RATHER --
01:04:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU STILL GET TO VOTE ON IT DURING THE
01:04:08 APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
01:04:13 I MEAN, IT DEPENDS HOW YOU DEFINE WHAT IS AN EMERGENCY AND
01:04:17 WHAT MAKES IT URGENT.
01:04:21 CERTAINLY, QUITE CANDIDLY, URGENCY IS NOT THE FACT THAT IT
01:04:27 EXPIRED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND WE ARE BRINGING IT TO YOU FOR
01:04:29 COUNCIL APPROVAL.
01:04:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
01:04:36 WHAT IS THE PHRASE, LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART DOESN'T
01:04:40 MAKE AN EMERGENCY ON MINE.
01:04:42 SO I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE
01:04:45 DON'T NEED COME TO US AS AN EMERGENCY ISSUE.
01:04:48 IT'S AN ACTUAL, ACTUAL EMERGENCY, AND IF PEOPLE JUST SAY,
01:04:53 YEAH, THIS CONTRACT WAS UP A WHILE AGO, THAT IS NOT AN
01:04:56 EMERGENCY AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT.
01:04:58 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, AND IF THEY HAD A CATASTROPHIC
01:05:06 FAILURE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:05:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT A MEMO WITH REASONING IN
01:05:09 ADVANCE OR DO YOU WANT TO SAY ONLY EMERGENCY ITEMS SHALL BE
01:05:11 CONSIDERED FOR WALK-ONS?
01:05:19 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RATHER SAY THAT.
01:05:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE WITH THAT.
01:05:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I MADE THE MOTION.
01:05:25 I DON'T WANT TO TIE OUR HANDS WITH WHAT AN EMERGENCY WOULD
01:05:28 BE FOR A WALK-ON ITEM, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT
01:05:33 DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF AN EMERGENCY.
01:05:35 I THINK THAT -- THERE YOU GO, CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES
01:05:42 MEMO EXPLAINING THE NEED FOR A WALK-ON, AND THEN IT COMES TO
01:05:46 US.
01:05:48 IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT ADJECTIVE OTHER THAN EMERGENCY, I
01:05:52 THINK I WOULD BE AMENABLE.
01:05:54 THAT'S ALL.
01:05:54 THANK YOU.
01:05:59 COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:06:00 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR, WE ARE THE LITIGATORS.
01:06:05 WHEN IT COMES TO US TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
01:06:07 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD STILL LOVE TO ADD PROBABLY A NICER
01:06:13 SENTENCE OF LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART DOESN'T CREATE AN
01:06:17 EMERGENCY ON OURS.
01:06:18 I REALLY THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART.
01:06:21 >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND IT ALSO MAY EXCEED THE AGENDA ITEMS
01:06:25 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WHICH IS OUR MAXIMUM.
01:06:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:06:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT
01:06:33 LACK OF DILIGENCE ON THE PART OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY
01:06:37 SEEKING TO ADD THE ITEM IS NOT A DEFENSE, WHATEVER.
01:06:41 >>BILL CARLSON: WE COULD ALSO PUT AS AN ASPIRATION THAT IT
01:06:48 SHOULD BE EMERGENCIES ONLY, WITHOUT A HARD WALL.
01:06:50 WE CAN ALWAYS VOTE.
01:06:52 THE THING IS THAT, THE ONE I WAS REFERRING TO WITHOUT GOING
01:06:58 INTO DETAIL WAS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT, AND IT SHOULD HAVE --
01:07:02 THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT IT WAS COMING.
01:07:05 AND IT PUT US AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT IN A REALLY BAD
01:07:10 SITUATION THAT THE FELT FORCED.
01:07:12 AND ANYTIME WE WALK SOMETHING ON, WHAT WE ARE REALLY DOING
01:07:15 IS TAKING AWAY THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT IN
01:07:18 ADVANCE.
01:07:18 NOBODY IS GOING TO SHOW UP TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING BECAUSE
01:07:21 THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
01:07:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
01:07:24 MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT, MR. SHELBY, AND
01:07:29 MAYBE ADDRESS MR. CARLSON'S CONCERNS, THAT IT SHOULD BE
01:07:36 ITEMS THAT URGENCY, EMERGENCY MATTERS OR URGENCY.
01:07:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW WHO SECONDED IT BUT IF IT WAS
01:07:46 ME I WILL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.
01:07:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
01:07:52 THIS TAKES CARE OF ITEM NUMBER 8/50/4.
01:07:56 [ LAUGHTER ]
01:07:58 OKAY.
01:07:59 NOW ITEM NUMBER 9.
01:08:01 IS THERE A MOTION?
01:08:02 IS THERE A MOTION?
01:08:05 MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 9?
01:08:11 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
01:08:14 SECOND.
01:08:16 NO RESOLUTION CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE UNRELATED TO CITY
01:08:18 BUSINESS.
01:08:20 COUNCIL VIERA.
01:08:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
01:08:22 SO I WOULD OPPOSE THIS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
01:08:25 THERE IS GOING TO BE, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR
01:08:27 THIS COLLECTIVE BODY TO MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD ON CERTAIN
01:08:30 ISSUES THAT COULD BE STATE ISSUES, ET CETERA, THAT HAVE A
01:08:33 DIRECT EFFECT ON OUR CONSTITUENTS.
01:08:35 WE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING THIS NOVEMBER ON A NUMBER OF
01:08:39 THINGS.
01:08:39 I DON'T MEAN IN TERMS OF CANDIDATES.
01:08:42 THINGS ON THE BALLOT.
01:08:43 FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS A CITY ISSUE, IT DEPENDS WHAT THE
01:08:47 MEANING OF THIS IS, WHICH IS AMENDMENT 4 IN TERMS OF
01:08:52 RESTORATION OF VOTING RIGHTS, I DID A RESOLUTION FOR THAT.
01:08:56 SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S RESTRICTIVE AND WOULD
01:08:59 UNNECESSARILY ARBITRARILY RESTRICT US.
01:09:01 THANK YOU.
01:09:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
01:09:04 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.
01:09:05 I HAVE DONE IT, GUILTY OF DOING THESE IN THE PAST BUT
01:09:10 REGRETTED THEM AFTERWARDS THAT WE NEED TO STICK STRICTLY TO
01:09:13 CITY BUSINESS.
01:09:14 WE SHOULDN'T BE STEPPING INTO ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF
01:09:17 CITY BUSINESS, I MEAN, TO THE POINT HE JUST MADE, THERE ARE
01:09:21 AMENDMENTS ON THE BALLOT, THERE ARE ISSUES GOING THROUGH THE
01:09:26 LEGISLATURE, THAT MAY BE UNRELATED TO CITY BUSINESS, AND ALL
01:09:31 WE ARE DOING IS TAKING A LOT OF TIME, WE CAN WEIGH IN ON
01:09:36 THEM INDIVIDUALLY AS MANY OF US HAVE BUT NOT DO IT AS A
01:09:41 BODY.
01:09:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] THAT HAVE DONE CITY
01:09:49 BUSINESS OR NOT.
01:09:49 IF YOU ARE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE IN THE
01:09:52 CITY, OR OTHER AGENCIES, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT'S
01:09:57 CITY BUSINESS OR NOT, ANYTHING WANT TO HAVE, WHETHER IT'S
01:10:00 CITY BUSINESS OR NOT.
01:10:01 I DON'T KNOW.
01:10:02 IT'S KIND OF BROAD.
01:10:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:10:08 >> WHAT IS OUR ROLE AS MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL?
01:10:16 YOU KNOW, IT'S -- I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS AS WE HAVE
01:10:21 SEEN PRESSURES FROM FOLKS COMING BEFORE US TO TAKE CITY
01:10:25 COUNCIL POSITIONS ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THE
01:10:29 CHARTER, AND HOW WE WERE ELECTED AND THE DECISIONS WE ARE
01:10:35 ELECTED TO MAKE AS MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
01:10:37 AND SO THERE ARE MANY LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT THAT MAKE CERTAIN
01:10:42 TYPES OF DECISIONS THAT I HAVE NO SAY IN, AND I AM A VERY
01:10:47 PASSIONATE PERSON.
01:10:47 I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT I
01:10:50 TRY TO KEEP THOSE PASSIONS OUTSIDE MY ROLE AS CITY COUNCIL.
01:10:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL HENDERSON, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:11:00 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THINGS ON CITY COUNCIL NOT RELATED TO
01:11:05 CITY BUSINESS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF LETTERS,
01:11:08 PEOPLE ASKING US TO SPEAK ABOUT GOD, BANNED BOOKS.
01:11:13 I MEAN, THESE AREN'T THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THINGS WE DO
01:11:16 HERE EVERY DAY AND CAN GET VERY INTENSIVE BECAUSE IF WE ARE
01:11:19 GOING TO TALK ABOUT GOD, THEN WE TALK ABOUT HATING, AND WE
01:11:26 MAY HAVE OPINIONS BUT WE CAN OPEN A CAN OF WORMS, IF YOU DO
01:11:29 IT FOR ONE YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR THE OTHER.
01:11:31 AND SO JUST TO BE CONSISTENT ON SOCIAL AND POLITICAL ISSUES,
01:11:37 WE JUST SHOULD NOT WEIGH IN.
01:11:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
01:11:41 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND I, I THINK OUR
01:11:46 POLITICS LARGELY ALIGN.
01:11:48 I REMEMBER TALKING TO YOU BEFORE WE WERE ELECTED AND YOU
01:11:50 SAID, VIERA, I DON'T LIKE THE RESOLUTIONS YOU ARE DOING, I
01:11:54 AGREE WITH IT BUT I DON'T LIKE IT, SO LIKE COUNCILMAN
01:11:56 CLENDENIN SAID, THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE ON SUBSTANCE. WHAT I
01:11:59 WOULD SUGGEST, IF SOMEBODY ASKS US TO DO SOMETHING, WE CAN
01:12:02 SAY NO. I HAVE SAID NO.
01:12:04 I SAY, LISTEN, I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU AND THAT'S WHY I AM
01:12:05 NOT GOING TO DO THE RESOLUTION AND HERE IS WHY.
01:12:07 >> EVEN IF WE AGREE WITH THEM WE SAY NO.
01:12:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:12:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE VIOLATED THE ONE MINUTE, THREE
01:12:19 MINUTE, FIVE MINUTE RULE. LET'S MOVE ON.
01:12:22 >>GWEN HENDERSON: DRAGON MIRANDA SAID LET'S MOVE ON.
01:12:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT SUGGESTING CHANGING LANGUAGE, BUT
01:12:32 TO ME THE DEFINITION SHOULD BE ANYTHING THAT CITY COUNCIL
01:12:38 CAN DIRECTLY INFLUENCE.
01:12:40 IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN CREATE A POLICY ABOUT, THEN WE
01:12:44 WOULD COME UP WITH IT.
01:12:45 BUT IF IT IS SAYING WE ARE FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING THAT WE
01:12:48 HAVE NO DIRECT CONTROL OVER, I THINK WOULD BE MY DEFINITION.
01:12:53 >>> DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MODIFY THAT LANGUAGE AND TAKE IT AS
01:12:56 A MOTION?
01:13:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THE LINE?
01:13:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
01:13:06 >>BILL CARLSON: TO THE PURVIEW OF CITY COUNCIL.
01:13:08 >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
01:13:13 >> I THINK SO, TOO.
01:13:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
01:13:18 WE HAVE A SECOND.
01:13:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:13:20 ANY OPPOSED?
01:13:21 >> NAY.
01:13:24 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
01:13:27 >> I REMEMBER THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
01:13:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 10.
01:13:33 MR. SHELBY, WE ALREADY HAVE THIS APPROVED, CORRECT?
01:13:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, AND IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE
01:13:38 RESOLUTION.
01:13:38 YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION.
01:13:39 YOU ALREADY APPROVED IT BY MOTION.
01:13:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SKIP 10.
01:13:44 OKAY.
01:13:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 11 IS A BIGGIE.
01:13:47 NUMBER 11, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN CITY COUNCIL REQUIRED A
01:13:52 UNANIMOUS VOTE TO WAIVE THE RULES.
01:13:56 BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS GIVES EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL
01:13:59 MEMBERS VETO POWER TO WAIVE THE RULES AND CAUSES THE RULES
01:14:03 TO BE ENFORCED.
01:14:05 RIGHT NOW IT'S A SUPER MAJORITY TO WAIVE THE RULES.
01:14:07 A SUGGESTION WAS MADE TO MAKE AT UNANIMOUS VOTE.
01:14:09 THAT WAY, LET'S SAY IF A COUNCILMEMBER HAS AN APPOINTMENT AT
01:14:13 NOON AND COUNCIL WANTS TO CONTINUE, THEY CAN SAY, NO, I HAVE
01:14:18 AN APPOINTMENT, AND VOTE NO AND THEREFORE COUNCIL STAYS IN
01:14:23 SESSION.
01:14:24 THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.
01:14:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND?
01:14:27 I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:14:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME SAY THIS.
01:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:14:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. THAT DOESN'T
01:14:37 MEAN I'LL VOTE FOR IT.
01:14:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FOR
01:14:40 DISCUSSION.
01:14:40 COUNCIL MIRANDA.
01:14:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MEAN, OF MEMBERS PRESENT.
01:14:46 SO IF THERE'S FIVE, FOUR.
01:14:51 IF THERE'S FOUR YOU CAN HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
01:14:55 AND TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, IF IT'S SEVEN, YOU NEED FIVE OF THE
01:14:58 SEVEN.
01:14:59 WHATEVER YOU WANT.
01:14:59 BUT, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING UNANIMOUS,
01:15:02 JUST WAIVE THE RULES.
01:15:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:15:08 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE IS THE REASON I MOTIONED FOR IT.
01:15:13 HOW ABOUT A SUPER MAJORITY?
01:15:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE.
01:15:16 >> THIS IS COVERED BY ROBERTS RULES.
01:15:18 >>LUIS VIERA: SO THERE YOU GO.
01:15:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL VIERA IS WITHDRAWING HIS
01:15:23 MOTION.
01:15:24 THEREFORE ITEM 11 DIES.
01:15:26 ITEM NUMBER 12 IS BLANK.
01:15:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 12, A LOT OF TIMES DURING
01:15:33 MEETINGS, REQUESTS COME IN TO MOVE ITEMS UP TO PLACES ASIDE
01:15:38 FROM PRESENTATIONS AND ASIDE FROM COMMENDATIONS, THAT ARE
01:15:42 ALREADY ON THE AGENDA, TO MOVE SOMETHING UP AHEAD OF PUBLIC
01:15:44 COMMENT.
01:15:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:15:47 >> ROBERTS RULES.
01:15:53 >> IT'S NOT A DISCUSSION.
01:15:57 >> SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:16:01 >> IT'S A QUESTION.
01:16:04 IT'S NOT A DISCUSSION.
01:16:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW THIS HAS HAPPENED.
01:16:11 DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER WHAT TYPE OF ISSUE?
01:16:15 WHAT DID WE DO ABOUT IT?
01:16:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER PEOPLE CAME OUT AND WE GOT A MEMO
01:16:19 LATE AT NIGHT, THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT PEOPLE WERE COMING OUT,
01:16:22 AND THINKING WE WERE GOING TO VOTE ON IT AND THEN AFTER
01:16:25 AGENDA REVIEW.
01:16:26 THAT'S WHY.
01:16:27 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE.
01:16:30 IT TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF OF PEOPLE.
01:16:32 >>LUIS VIERA: SO I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST -- I'M SORRY.
01:16:44 AND THANK YOU.
01:16:45 NO, I WAS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS.
01:16:47 THIS IS WHY, IF WE DO VOTE, WE CAN MAYBE HAVE A STANDARD ON
01:16:50 ITEMS BEING PLACED AHEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, I AM NOT GOING
01:16:56 TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING RIGHT NOW, BUT IF WE DO THAT, FOR
01:16:59 THE POLICE CHIEF, YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT
01:17:02 NARROWLY TAILORED ISSUE.
01:17:03 I WOULD JUST HATE FOR SOMETHING WHERE IT COULD BE ANYBODY,
01:17:07 COULD BE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, COULD BE A SHERIFF OF
01:17:10 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, COULD BE ANYBODY, HAVE TO UNNECESSARILY
01:17:13 SIT IN AN HOUR OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
01:17:18 THE ITEM.
01:17:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: I DISAGREE BECAUSE WE SHOULD VOTE ON NOTHING
01:17:23 UNLESS THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO SPEAK ON IT AND IF YOU ARE
01:17:26 SAYING THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT
01:17:29 NARROWLY TAILORED ISSUE, THEN WE ARE DOUBLING PUBLIC COMMENT
01:17:31 TIME.
01:17:32 JUST SAYING.
01:17:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HEAR, HEAR.
01:17:35 >>BILL CARLSON: LAST WEEK, THAT BIG ISSUE WAS HANDLED IN
01:17:40 THE AGENDA SETTING.
01:17:41 WE REMOVED IT FROM THE AGENDA.
01:17:44 IT WASN'T, AS YOU ALL SHOT ME DOWN, WASN'T A DISCUSSION ON
01:17:47 THAT ISSUE.
01:17:50 TRIED TO SHUT ME DOWN.
01:17:54 (MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS)
01:17:56 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT, ANYWAY, EVEN IF THERE ARE DIGNITARIES
01:18:04 COMING, I THINK WE CAN PUT THEM AFTER PUBLIC INPUT, SO WE
01:18:09 DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
01:18:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S WHY I WAS SO NICE.
01:18:13 ALL RIGHT.
01:18:14 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:18:15 >>LUIS VIERA: SO THIS IS FRAMED, IT SAYS NO ITEMS SHOULD BE
01:18:23 PLACED ON THE AGENDA AHEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENT. IF PUBLIC
01:18:27 COMMENT IS TAILORED TOWARD THAT ONE, DOES IT SATISFY THIS
01:18:29 RULE? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:18:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE ACTION, YES.
01:18:36 >>LUIS VIERA: SO THIS RULE COULD BE INTERPRETED TO HAVE
01:18:37 PUBLIC COMMENT IF IT'S ON THAT ONE ITEM, OR IS THAT GENERAL
01:18:43 PUBLIC COMMENT? MAYBE IT COULD BE AMENDED TO GENERAL PUBLIC
01:18:47 COMMENT.
01:18:48 OTHERWISE, MY INTERPRETATION PREVAILS.
01:18:51 WHATEVER.
01:18:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I COULD CHANGE THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AND
01:18:56 CALL IT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:18:58 WE DON'T REALLY MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
01:18:59 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, WE CAN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT THE
01:19:04 PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO COMMENT.
01:19:06 AND ALL WE ARE DOING IS IF WE DENY THIS, IT JUST SIMPLY HAS
01:19:11 MULTIPLE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
01:19:13 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DISAGREE, BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE
01:19:19 COME TO SPEAK, OR OTHER ISSUES, I MEAN, FROM THE PUBLIC TO
01:19:25 COMMENT ABOUT A SPEAKER, OR --
01:19:33 >>LYNN HURTAK: THESE ARE NOT CEREMONIAL ITEMS.
01:19:36 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS SAYS NO ITEM.
01:19:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE TO CLARIFY, BUT THE INTENTION WAS
01:19:41 TO NOT HAVE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY SET FOR PRESENTATIONS
01:19:46 OR COMMENDATIONS. IT'S SOMETHING BEING ADDED TO BE MOVED UP
01:19:50 ON THE AGENDA.
01:19:51 SOMETIMES, YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS, A LOT OF TIMES YOU GET
01:19:54 REQUESTS TO BE FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON ADMINISTRATION
01:19:58 UPDATES.
01:19:59 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IF WE WANTED TO
01:20:02 MOVE SOMEBODY BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT, THE CHAIR WOULD HAVE TO
01:20:04 CALL FOR A VOTE, CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT.
01:20:07 ON A REALTIME BASIS. WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT --
01:20:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS COMES FROM
01:20:22 SOMETHING THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHICH IS NOT TO HAVE
01:20:26 STAFF COME IN AT THE FIRST PART OF THE DAY AND HAVE THEM
01:20:29 COME IN LATER, YOU GET A REQUEST FROM STAFF, SO SOMETIMES IT
01:20:30 CHANGES THE COURSE, THE FLOW OF YOUR MEETING TO HAVE PEOPLE
01:20:36 COME IN, STAFF MEMBERS AND PRESENTATIONS, AND ACTION ON AN
01:20:39 ITEM EARLY ON IN THE AGENDA WHEN YOU HAVE THE 10:00, THE
01:20:45 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS, BREAK FOR LUNCH AND THEN COME BACK AT
01:20:49 1:30 FOR THE REVIEW HEARINGS.
01:20:50 SO I AM ASSUMING THAT WAS THE INTENTION BEHIND THIS.
01:20:52 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY NO.
01:20:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS ABILITY DURING
01:21:02 APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
01:21:03 >> THIS IS LIKE I DOUBLE DARE YOU TO PUT ANYTHING IN FRONT
01:21:05 --
01:21:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HERE IS THE SUNSHINE LAW ISSUE.
01:21:09 WHEN A COUNCILMEMBER MAKES A STATEMENT, OR REQUEST ON
01:21:14 SOMETHING, THAT IS ALLOWED UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW.
01:21:17 A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO RESPONDS TO IT OR HAS ISSUES WITH IT
01:21:22 CANNOT DISCUSS IT OR EVEN RAISE IT DURING A PUBLIC MEETING
01:21:26 BECAUSE, IF THEY DO, THAT COMMUNICATION WOULD BE IN
01:21:29 VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
01:21:31 SO BY YOU SENDING OUT A MEMO, AS A GOTCHA, FOR THOSE PEOPLE
01:21:37 WHO RESPOND, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THOUGHTS BEHIND IT.
01:21:41 THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN RESPOND TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT SORT OF
01:21:44 REQUEST IF IT COMES IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING IS AT THE
01:21:48 MEETING.
01:21:49 OF COURSE, AGAIN YOU HAVE FULL DISCRETION OF APPROVAL OF THE
01:21:52 AGENDA.
01:21:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
01:21:56 >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE I WAS THE ONE THAT MADE THE
01:22:01 MOTION.
01:22:02 I WANT TO CALL FOR THE VOTE.
01:22:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN
01:22:05 FAVOR?
01:22:06 ANY OPPOSED?
01:22:14 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:22:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S ONLY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, NOT
01:22:20 CEREMONIAL.
01:22:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, IF I MAY.
01:22:25 ONE IF RIGHT NOW THEY WALK IN, THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ON SOME
01:22:29 ITEM, A BIG ITEM, AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY OR
01:22:35 ANYTHING ELSE, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, AND WE
01:22:42 CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
01:22:47 AND TALKING ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH SOMEWHERE.
01:22:49 I AM JUST TRYING TO BE THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THAT'S ALL.
01:22:51 >>LYNN HURTAK: EVEN IF THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, WE WOULD
01:22:56 STILL HAVE TO HAVE GENERAL COMMENT BEFORE GENERAL COMMENT.
01:22:58 WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO VOTE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT HAVING PUBLIC
01:23:02 COMMENT SO THAT'S THE POINT.
01:23:03 WE COULD LITERALLY MOVE THAT ITEM TO NUMBER 1 AFTER PUBLIC
01:23:07 COMMENT BUT NOT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THAT'S THE POINT
01:23:10 BECAUSE THEN WE ARE DOUBLING PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:23:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION FAILED.
01:23:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION FAILED.
01:23:17 ALSO, THAT GOES BACK TO A WALK-ON.
01:23:22 IF SOMEBODY WERE TO WALK IN HERE RIGHT NOW, THIS WOULD NOT
01:23:27 AFFECT THAT.
01:23:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN I TAKE IT BACK.
01:23:31 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
01:23:34 >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
01:23:35 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
01:23:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:23:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:23:39 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:23:41 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND VIERA VOTING NO.
01:23:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT CARRIED?
01:23:49 YOU VOTED AGAINST?
01:23:51 >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID.
01:24:02 [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:24:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S GOING TO GO MUCH QUICKER AFTER THIS.
01:24:07 ALL RIGHT.
01:24:07 FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
01:24:10 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
01:24:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
01:29:30 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:29:31 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:29:31 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:29:32 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:29:33 >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
01:29:34 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:29:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:29:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:29:40 MR. SHELBY SUGGESTED A WORKSHOP.
01:29:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO CEREMONIAL ITEMS, COMMENDATIONS OR
01:29:58 PRESENTATIONS ON WORKSHOP DAYS.
01:30:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:30:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:30:03 ALL RIGHT.
01:30:03 ANY OPPOSED?
01:30:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
01:30:10 VIERA --
01:30:12 >>> LET ME READ NUMBER TWO. IT SAYS NO GENERAL PUBLIC
01:30:14 COMMENT AT THE START OF THE WORKSHOP MEETING, PUBLIC COMMENT
01:30:14 TAKEN ONLY ON WORKSHOP ITEMS AT THE END OF THE WORKSHOP.
01:30:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:30:20 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:30:22 >> THAT'S HOW IT USED TO BE, CORRECT?
01:30:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW IT USED TO BE.
01:30:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD WANT TO TAKE OUT AT THE END OF
01:30:29 WORKSHOP, AND SAY AT THE END OF EACH ITEM, BECAUSE END OF
01:30:33 WORKSHOP IMPLIES THE END OF THE WHOLE DAY.
01:30:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
01:30:40 >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE HAD CONCERNS FROM MEMBERS OF THE
01:30:43 PUBLIC THAT CAN'T STAY THE WHOLE TIME ABOUT BEING ABLE TO
01:30:45 SAY SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT
01:30:49 IS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO THE CALL-INS OR E-MAIL US FOR
01:30:54 ISSUES.
01:30:56 I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE MAY WANT TO COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING
01:30:58 OF THE MEETING, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT TAILORED COMMENTS
01:31:01 FOR EACH ITEM IS BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO WORKSHOPS.
01:31:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
01:31:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:31:06 ALL RIGHT.
01:31:06 ANY OPPOSED?
01:31:10 WE HAVE 6 TO 1 WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON VOTING NO.
01:31:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 3.
01:31:16 DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT, MR. CHAIR, OR SHOULD I?
01:31:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DETERMINE TIME LIMITS ON AGENDA FOR
01:31:24 EACH ITEM AND SET START TIME FOR EACH ITEM NOTING IT ON THE
01:31:27 WORKSHOP AGENDA.
01:31:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:31:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, COUNCIL DETERMINED
01:31:40 WHETHER THAT WORKSHOP WAS GOING TO LAST AN HOUR OR HALF
01:31:40 HOUR, SO YOU HAD A START TIME OF 9:30, 10, 11, 11:30,
01:31:44 WHATEVER, SO THAT THE ADVANTAGE TO THAT IS PEOPLE KNEW THAT
01:31:48 THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME IN AT 9:00 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE
01:31:51 WAY YOU HAVE IT SET IS THEY ARE BOOKED FOR THE DAY BECAUSE
01:31:54 HEAVEN KNOWS ESPECIALLY IF YOU MOVE ITEMS AROUND.
01:31:57 HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL, BUT THE
01:31:59 REASON IS, IF YOU SET A TIME IN ADVANCE, DETERMINE TIME
01:32:05 LIMITS FOR EACH ITEM AND THEN SET THE START TIME ON THE
01:32:09 WORKSHOP, THAT'S THE WAY IT USED TO BE DONE BUT I AM NOT
01:32:12 SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP REORDERING THINGS AS IT IS NOW
01:32:16 SO PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHEN AN ITEM IS GOING TO COME UP.
01:32:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD ONLY AGREE WITH THAT IF THE WORKSHOP
01:32:21 ITEM IS NARROWLY TAILORED BECAUSE I THINK THAT NUMBER 7
01:32:25 CREATING A 4-HOUR DURATION FOR ALL WORKSHOP MEETINGS WOULD
01:32:28 HELP US MAINTAIN THAT ANYWAY.
01:32:31 BUT IF THERE'S AN ITEM ON WASTEWATER THAT'S GOING TO LAST --
01:32:37 THAT'S HUGE, WHEN THEY COME TO US FOR LIKE PURE, FOR
01:32:43 EXAMPLE, WE WERE HERE FOREVER FOR THAT, AND SO WE JUST KNOW
01:32:47 ON THAT DAY WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL 1 P.M. SO WE SHOULDN'T PUT
01:32:52 TOO MANY MORE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IF PURE IS ON THE AGENDA.
01:32:55 THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR IT.
01:32:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:33:00 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GUESS DID IT GET A MOTION AND SECOND?
01:33:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:33:07 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY HENDERSON.
01:33:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:33:14 OPPOSED?
01:33:16 >>THE CLERK: HENDERSON?
01:33:21 >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
01:33:24 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:33:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:33:27 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
01:33:28 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
01:33:30 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
01:33:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:33:32 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON, HURTAK AND CLENDENIN VOTING
01:33:36 NO.
01:33:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 4.
01:33:38 DETERMINE TIME LIMITS INFORM EACH PRESENTATION AND/OR
01:33:41 SPEAKER FOR WORKSHOP AGENDA AND SET THE TIMER ACCORDINGLY.
01:33:43 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:33:45 SECOND FROM HENDERSON.
01:33:48 ANY DISCUSSION?
01:33:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:33:53 ANY OPPOSED?
01:33:54 >> NAY.
01:33:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH --[OFF MICROPHONE]
01:34:00 >>> DO NOT COMBINE MULTIPLE MOTIONS INTO A SINGLE
01:34:06 PRESENTATION BY STAFF WITHOUT PRIOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. DO WE
01:34:08 HAVE A MOTION?
01:34:08 >> SO MOVED.
01:34:08 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
01:34:08 CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR? OH, I'M SORRY.
01:34:09 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN YOU SAY PRIOR APPROVAL, PRIOR TO THE
01:34:15 MEETING OR AT THE MEETING?
01:34:18 PRIOR.
01:34:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PRIOR TO THE MEETING, BECAUSE COUNCIL,
01:34:21 BEHIND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES THERE ARE MULTIPLE
01:34:24 ITEMS SET DURING DIFFERENT TIMES, AND THEY MAY HAVE THE KIND
01:34:29 OF THINGS THAT ARE COMMONALITIES, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS
01:34:32 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE STAFF COMES IN WITH A PRESENTATION THAT
01:34:35 TAKES A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME, AND IT'S
01:34:39 COUNCIL'S PLEASURE HOW YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM.
01:34:41 IT MAY BE EASIER FOR STAFF TO GET IN.
01:34:43 THERE'S A REASON BEHIND IT.
01:34:46 BUT THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE
01:34:48 THEY DO IT.
01:34:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
01:34:52 >> AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE IF THERE ARE THREE ITEM
01:34:57 AGENDAS AND YOU WOULD SAY, OH, WELL, AT THE END OF THE
01:34:59 MEETING, YOU SAY ACTUALLY, I WANT TO COMBINE SOMETHING FROM
01:35:04 MARCH AND APRIL INTO THE FEBRUARY MEETING, CAN WE DO THAT?
01:35:10 AND JUST TO GET APPROVAL FROM ALL OF US FIRST, NOT AT A
01:35:14 WORKSHOP.
01:35:16 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS BY STAFF.
01:35:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:35:20 BECAUSE IF STAFF COMES TO ME AND SAYS, HEY, CAN I COMBINE
01:35:23 THESE? SURE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA, BUT IF WE DON'T
01:35:26 GET APPROVAL FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL IS A PROBLEM.
01:35:28 >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS THEY SOMETIMES DO IT
01:35:31 WITHOUT GETTING HEADS UP TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
01:35:35 IT HAPPENS TO ME ALL THE TIME.
01:35:36 SO THEY ROLL THREE OR FOUR THINGS TOGETHER AND ONE OF THEM
01:35:39 IS BARELY MENTIONED AT ALL.
01:35:41 SO THEN I HAVE TO GO BACK TO STAFF AND TRY TO BRING IT BACK
01:35:44 AGAIN.
01:35:45 I WOULD RATHER THEM NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT THE MAKER
01:35:49 OF THE MOTION'S CONSENT AND ALSO COUNCIL.
01:35:52 OKAY.
01:35:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
01:35:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:35:55 ANY OPPOSED?
01:35:58 ASK STAFF TO CLEARLY DELINEATE DECISION POINTS TO BE ACTED
01:36:03 UPON.
01:36:04 DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
01:36:05 >> AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
01:36:10 >> MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK AND HENDERSON,
01:36:15 CLARIFICATION.
01:36:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY DO THAT OFTEN.
01:36:19 A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY DO RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE POINT OF
01:36:21 THE MOTION, SOMETIMES THEY DO THINGS FOR INFORMATIONAL
01:36:24 PURPOSES, BUT THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY WANT TO TAKE --
01:36:27 IF YOU WANT THE ADMINISTRATION, IF THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
01:36:32 ASKED THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION, THE SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE
01:36:35 THAT BE DELINEATED BY STAFF, IF THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO TAKE
01:36:39 ACTION, AS OPPOSED TO RATHER THAN JUST GIVE YOU THE
01:36:41 INFORMATION AS FORMULATED.
01:36:43 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
01:36:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:36:48 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO A RULE?
01:36:52 I DON'T GET IT.
01:36:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DEPENDS.
01:36:56 WELL, THE QUESTION IS, AS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION, IF
01:36:59 THERE ARE DECISION POINTS, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE DECISION
01:37:02 POINTS AHEAD OF YOU OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE COUNCIL
01:37:04 FORMULATE YOUR OWN DECISION POINTS?
01:37:08 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS A
01:37:10 LITTLE LONGER AND GET AN EXAMPLE BEFORE WE CREATE A RULE FOR
01:37:15 IT.
01:37:15 >> I'LL RESCIND THE MOTION.
01:37:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S RESCINDED. IT DOES NOT PASS.
01:37:19 ITEM 6 IS DEAD FOR NOW.
01:37:22 NUMBER 7.
01:37:23 CREATE FOUR-HOUR DURATION FOR ALL WORKSHOP MEETINGS, 9 A.M.
01:37:27 TO 1 P.M. AND ADJOURN UNTIL 5:01 P.M. NIGHT MEETING CREATING
01:37:32 A MINIMUM 4 HOUR BREAK FOR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
01:37:36 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING SECOND IT, THIRD AND FOURTH
01:37:41 AND FIFTH.
01:37:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A HARD STOP?
01:37:46 OR GIVE OR TAKE?
01:37:49 IN OTHER WORDS, I GUESS I WANT TO BE CLEAR SO THERE'S NO
01:37:55 MISUNDERSTANDING.
01:37:55 DOES THAT MEAN YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE AN AGENDA ACCORDINGLY
01:37:59 TO FIT WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME?
01:38:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:38:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH MEANS THAT THE THING ABOUT THAT IS
01:38:07 IT ACKNOWLEDGES THE FACT -- AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT EVERY
01:38:10 WORKSHOP DAY, THERE'S A NIGHT MEETING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
01:38:14 AND SAME WITH THE CRA.
01:38:16 BUT THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE NOW.
01:38:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK.
01:38:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:38:22 I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL MONTHS WHERE WE
01:38:24 DON'T HAVE WORKSHOPS BECAUSE OF HOLIDAYS THAT WE MIGHT NEED
01:38:27 TO ADD WORKSHOPS AND THAT'S MY ONLY CAVEAT.
01:38:31 I HAVE NO PROBLEM, I THINK A 4-HOUR MEETING IS PERFECTLY
01:38:34 FINE BUT AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE WORKSHOPS
01:38:36 THAN WE HAVE ROOM FOR.
01:38:38 I AM GOING TO MAKE THAT POINT.
01:38:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:38:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:38:45 ANY OPPOSED?
01:38:45 GREAT.
01:38:46 STRICTLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF WORKSHOP ITEMS TO THAT WHICH
01:38:48 CAN BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE TIME FRAME SET INCLUDING TIME
01:38:52 ALLOTTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END.
01:38:54 COUNCIL VIERA WITH A MOTION, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN, AND
01:38:58 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:39:00 >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END,
01:39:02 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES THAT MEAN PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH
01:39:05 ITEM?
01:39:05 I JUST WANTED -- I AM GOING TO ADD THAT IN IF THE MAKER OF
01:39:09 THE MOTION WILL APPROVE.
01:39:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THE END OF EACH ITEM, MR. SHELBY.
01:39:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:39:15 ANY OPPOSED?
01:39:16 ALL RIGHT.
01:39:16 HERE IS WHERE IT GETS TRICKY.
01:39:18 EVEN SESSIONS AND NIGHT MEETINGS, MR. SHELBY, AMEND RULE 3C1
01:39:23 FROM 6PM TO 501 PM -- WHICH WE DO BUT THIS JUST AMENDS THE
01:39:28 RULE. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN
01:39:32 HURTAK.
01:39:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:39:35 SET EVENING SESSIONS FOR TUESDAYS AT 5:01 P.M. INSTEAD OF
01:39:39 THURSDAYS.
01:39:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS A SUGGESTION THAT YOU MOVE YOUR
01:39:43 NIGHT MEETINGS TO A TUESDAY BECAUSE IN THAT CASE YOU WILL
01:39:45 NEVER HAVE A DAY MEETING AND A NIGHT MEETING TOGETHER, BUT
01:39:48 IT HAS A DIFFERENT DAY TO LAND USE AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
01:39:52 AND WHATEVER ELSE.
01:39:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A MOTION?
01:39:55 >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR CONVERSATION.
01:39:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
01:39:59 IS THERE A SECOND?
01:40:00 >> I'LL SECOND IT.
01:40:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY WIFE IS DOING HER MASTERS PROGRAM
01:40:04 ONLINE, AND EVERY TUESDAY SHE SITS THERE FOR THREE AND A
01:40:08 HALF HOURS ONLINE AND I HAVE TO WATCH WHITNEY, WHO IS THE
01:40:15 YOUNGEST, AND BY TUESDAY, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
01:40:17 AND SHE'S DOING THIS FOR THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
01:40:20 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEM.
01:40:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO DOES THE MAKER OF THE MOTION RESCIND
01:40:25 THAT OR DO WE JUST TAKE A VOTE ON IT?
01:40:30 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL RESCIND IT.
01:40:31 I THINK THE IDEA WAS CAN WE DO ONE SESSION PER DAY INSTEAD
01:40:35 OF MULTIPLE SESSIONS PER DAY?
01:40:38 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I HAVE
01:40:42 SAID MANY TIMES SOMEWHERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS SOONER
01:40:45 RATHER THAN LATER WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ENTERTAIN ADDING
01:40:48 SOME ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE THESE AGENDAS ARE
01:40:50 GETTING SO BIG.
01:40:53 THE AGENDAS ARE GETTING SO BIG.
01:40:55 SO JUST SO YOU KNOW.
01:40:56 AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IS THE SOLUTION BECAUSE I CAN
01:41:00 SEE THAT IT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE YOU ARE BLOCKING TWO HALF
01:41:05 DAYS.
01:41:08 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:41:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERY ITEM HAD TO BE VOTED ON
01:41:16 INDIVIDUALLY.
01:41:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS --
01:41:21 >> A $2 BILLION BUDGET.
01:41:23 IT'S A BIG CITY NOW.
01:41:24 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVENTUALLY WE ARE THE DAY OF RECKONING
01:41:29 WILL COME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL CITY
01:41:31 COUNCIL MEETING.
01:41:31 I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
01:41:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:41:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY I JUST MENTIONED THE SAME
01:41:38 THING ABOUT WORKSHOPS.
01:41:39 AT SOME POINT WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ADD TIME TO GET
01:41:43 TO EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, BUT TO ALSO BE ABLE
01:41:47 TO DO IT IN A BITE SIZE MANNER INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ONE
01:41:52 GIANT CAKE AT ONCE.
01:41:54 >>BILL CARLSON: KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
01:41:58 CONTROLS THE MAJORITY OF WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA MOST DAYS, AND
01:42:07 FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WEEK THERE'S
01:42:10 SOMETHING BIG AND/OR CONTROVERSIAL THAT WE HAVE TO PREPARE
01:42:13 FOR.
01:42:13 AND WE GET HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS, ALL KINDS OF CONTACT, AND
01:42:19 THERE'S BIG CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES OR WAS, TAKING UP A LOT OF
01:42:23 OUR TIME.
01:42:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS STILL GOOD
01:42:26 WITH THE MOTION?
01:42:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I AM JUST GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
01:42:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
01:42:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:42:33 ANY OPPOSED?
01:42:34 >>THE CLERK: EVERYONE BUT HURTAK VOTING NO.
01:42:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SET A RULE THAT ENDS EVENING SESSIONS
01:42:50 BY MIDNIGHT.
01:42:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, I THINK. YOU HAVE
01:42:53 PEOPLE THAT PAY, YOU HAVE AN AGENDA YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
01:42:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE EVEN A MOTION?
01:42:56 THERE IS NO MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.
01:42:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:42:59 ITEM NUMBER 3 IS DEAD.
01:43:01 MOVE ITEM NUMBER 4.
01:43:04 MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY HURTAK.
01:43:07 ANY DISCUSSION?
01:43:08 YES?
01:43:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST BECAUSE THE CLERK BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER
01:43:13 I WOULD ADD TO IT THAT IF WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH CLARITY
01:43:15 OF SPELLING OR THE REASONS THEY ARE COMING THAT WE SHOULD
01:43:18 HAVE A STAFF MEMBER OUT THERE HELPING THEM FILLING OUT, IF
01:43:22 THAT'S THE ISSUE.
01:43:23 LET'S SOLVE THE ISSUE IS THAT.
01:43:24 >>GWEN HENDERSON: LAST WEEK THE CLERK ACTUALLY HAD TO ASK
01:43:30 SOMEONE TO SPELL THEIR NAME.
01:43:36 >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE THAT STAFF MEMBER DOES THE WRITING OR
01:43:38 THEY WRITE IT OUT, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO DO IT.
01:43:41 SO KEEP SIGN-IN SHEETS FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND ADD STAFF
01:43:43 MEMBER TO ASSIST.
01:43:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
01:43:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:43:49 ANY OPPOSED?
01:43:50 CALENDAR.
01:43:51 MR. SHELBY.
01:43:53 MAKE SPRING BREAK RECESS PERMANENT.
01:43:56 MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, HURTAK.
01:43:58 ANY DISCUSSION?
01:43:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:44:03 ALL RIGHT.
01:44:06 NEVER SCHEDULE EVENING MEETINGS ON REGULAR AGENDA MEETING
01:44:09 DAYS.
01:44:09 I THINK THAT HAPPENED ONCE.
01:44:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT HAPPENED A LOT WHEN YOU PLAYED
01:44:14 CATCH-UP, REMEMBER?
01:44:16 IT WAS BASICALLY -- YOU FIND MEETINGS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT
01:44:23 THAT WOULD HAVE GONE SEVERAL HOURS INTO YOUR NIGHT MEETINGS.
01:44:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS NO MOTION.
01:44:27 IT IS DEAD.
01:44:28 CONSIDER FIFTH THURSDAYS --
01:44:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT A SECOND.
01:44:34 I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
01:44:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONSIDER FIFTH THURSDAYS FOR ADDING
01:44:41 MEETINGS.
01:44:47 WE DON'T NEED A RULE.
01:44:49 OKAY.
01:44:49 THAT'S DEAD, TOO.
01:44:51 BE MINDFUL TO AVOID BACK TO BACK REGULAR AGENDA MEETINGS.
01:44:55 WHICH WE HAD LAST WEEK AND THEN THE WEEK BEFORE WITH TWO
01:44:59 REGULAR AGENDAS, AND NEXT WEEK IS ANOTHER REGULAR AGENDA
01:45:01 MEETING.
01:45:02 JUST TO BE MINDFUL.
01:45:04 WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
01:45:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLERK'S POSITION AS
01:45:10 A RULE BUT JUST MINDFUL OF THE FACT IN TERMS OF STAFF, IN
01:45:15 TERMS OF STAFFING, AND THE LIKE.
01:45:18 BUT IT'S GONE.
01:45:19 THAT'S FINE.
01:45:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO 4 HAS NO MOTION.
01:45:23 ITEM NUMBER 5, EACH DISTRICT OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
01:45:26 CONFIRMING AVAILABILITY OF SPACE ON THE CALENDAR BEFORE
01:45:29 MAKING A DECISION.
01:45:31 MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:45:33 MOTION FROM VIERA, SECOND BY HURTAK.
01:45:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:45:39 ALL RIGHT.
01:45:39 BOARD VACANCIES.
01:45:40 SHOULD BE VOTED ON THE AGENDA SO COUNCIL CAN SEEK CANDIDATES
01:45:43 FOR APPOINTMENT.
01:45:44 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM --
01:45:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:45:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM HURTAK, SECOND
01:45:52 FROM VIERA.
01:45:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:45:54 OH, I'M SORRY, DISCUSSION?
01:45:56 YES, SIR.
01:45:56 >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT
01:46:03 COMES TO THE BOARDS, AND APPOINTMENTS THAT WE MAKE, AND KEEP
01:46:06 TRACK OF ALL OF THIS STUFF. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO
01:46:08 THAT.
01:46:09 MAYBE THE CLERK CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
01:46:13 IF YOU PUBLISH ALL THESE UPDATES IN THE CALENDAR, HAVE A
01:46:17 RUNNING LIST OF BOARD APPOINTMENTS, POSSIBLY.
01:46:25 I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CLERK TO TYPE THAT.
01:46:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A
01:46:34 SECOND.
01:46:35 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:46:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
01:46:43 ANY OPPOSED?
01:46:49 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND THEN NEW BUSINESS.
01:46:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS NO NEW BUSINESS.
01:46:52 MAKE IT NEXT WEEK. ALL RIGHT.
01:46:54 WE ARE ALL SET.
01:46:56 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:46:57 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.
01:47:00 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:47:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:47:03 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
01:47:04 3:00.
01:47:04 LOOK AT THE SUN WITH PROPER GLASSES.
01:47:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 1:45 NOW.
01:47:13 THANK YOU.
01:47:14 [MEETING ADJOURNED]
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