TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOPS
THURSDAY, APRIL 25, 2024, 9:00 A.M.
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9:08:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:08:08AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
9:08:10AM MEETING TO ORDER.
9:08:12AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:08:14AM IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THE
9:08:18AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:08:19AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:08:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:33AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:46AM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:08:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:08:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:08:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:08:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:08:56AM >> VIERA?
9:08:56AM MIRANDA?
9:08:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:08:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:58AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:09:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:09:01AM JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
9:09:02AM COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.
9:09:04AM WE HAVE A FEW MEMOS TO GO OVER.
9:09:07AM ITEM NUMBER 2, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO
9:09:11AM THE JANUARY 30th, 2025 WORKSHOP.
9:09:14AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
9:09:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
9:09:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL SECOND THAT SINCE THIS WAS MINE.
9:09:20AM I HAD A MEETING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
9:09:23AM THERE'S REALLY NOTHING -- THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS MOVING
9:09:26AM RIGHT NOW.
9:09:26AM SO THERE'S NOTHING CONCRETE TO REPORT.
9:09:28AM BY JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING REALLY
9:09:31AM CONCRETE AND SPECIFIC TO REPORT.
9:09:32AM POSITIVE NEWS IS IT IS ALL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
9:09:35AM EVERYBODY IS FLOWING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
9:09:37AM I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT.
9:09:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:39AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:09:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:41AM AYE.
9:09:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:09:42AM THAT'S TO CONTINUE THAT.
9:09:44AM WE ALSO RECEIVED A MEMO FOR ITEM NUMBER 5 TO BE CONTINUED TO
9:09:48AM JUNE 27.
9:09:49AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:09:49AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:53AM AYE.
9:09:54AM NEXT, MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 7 TO BE CONTINUED TO AUGUST 29.
9:10:01AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM
9:10:04AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:10:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:05AM AYE.
9:10:06AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:06AM FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER 8, MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY
9:10:10AM 23rd.
9:10:11AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:10:12AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:10:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:15AM AYE.
9:10:15AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:16AM ALL RIGHT.
9:10:19AM THAT SETTLES THE AGENDA.
9:10:20AM MR. VASKE.
9:10:26AM >> JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
9:10:28AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:10:30AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS
9:10:31AM ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL
9:10:35AM ACTION ON AN ITEM.
9:10:36AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:10:40AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:10:41AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:10:43AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:10:47AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:10:51AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:10:54AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL
9:10:58AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS
9:11:01AM OF THE PUBLIC.
9:11:03AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:11:06AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:11:10AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:11:12AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
9:11:16AM RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
9:11:20AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY OR
9:11:23AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:11:24AM NOW, FOR TODAY'S MEETING, PUBLIC COMMENT IS BOTH AT THE
9:11:27AM BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING.
9:11:29AM FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE THE ITEMS ARE HEARD AND
9:11:33AM ALSO AFTER EACH WORKSHOP ITEM.
9:11:36AM HOWEVER, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ONLY CHOOSE BEFORE OR
9:11:39AM AFTER, NOT BOTH.
9:11:40AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
9:11:44AM SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
9:11:47AM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
9:11:50AM DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:11:52AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:11:54AM THANK YOU.
9:11:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:55AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:11:58AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR
9:12:02AM NAME.
9:12:02AM YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:12:04AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:12:09AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:12:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:12:10AM MY NAME IS DARYL HYCH.
9:12:12AM CAN I USE THE TelePrompTer THING?
9:12:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:12:16AM WE'LL TURN ON THE OVERHEAD.
9:12:18AM IT WILL ACTIVATE IN JUST A SECOND.
9:12:20AM HE'S COMING OUT TO CHECK IT.
9:12:47AM YES, SIR.
9:13:08AM WE CAN SEE IT.
9:13:09AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:13:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:13:10AM MY NAME IS DARYL HYCH.
9:13:12AM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, MYSELF AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE
9:13:15AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WE HAD THE
9:13:18AM OPPORTUNITY TO GO HEAR THE PRESIDENT SPEAK.
9:13:20AM AND WHEN WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT SPEAK, I COULDN'T -- I
9:13:24AM COULDN'T GO PAST SEEING THOSE TWO WORDS THERE THAT SAID
9:13:28AM REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.
9:13:30AM I ASKED HER, I SAID WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU, REPRODUCTIVE
9:13:34AM FREEDOM.
9:13:35AM SHE ANSWERED FROM A MICROPERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
9:13:37AM THE THEME WAS ABOUT ABORTION.
9:13:40AM BUT THEN I ASKED, I SAID TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THING FROM A
9:13:43AM MACRO PERSPECTIVE.
9:13:44AM WHAT I DID THEN WAS I SAID LET'S BREAK THIS WORD DOWN.
9:13:47AM LET'S BREAK THIS WORD DOWN, WORD "RE" MEANS TO DO SOMETHING
9:13:52AM OVER AGAIN AND "PRODUCTIVE" MEANS TO PRODUCE SOMETHING.
9:13:56AM I SAID LET'S LOOK AT THIS FROM THE ROOT WORD OF WHAT'S
9:13:59AM HAPPENING HERE.
9:13:59AM THE ROOT WORD OF WHAT I SEEN HAPPENING THERE WAS PRODUCE
9:14:02AM FREEDOM.
9:14:03AM I ASKED HER THE QUESTION, HOW DO YOU PRODUCE FREEDOM?
9:14:06AM WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, WE CAN DO TO PRODUCE
9:14:10AM FREEDOM?
9:14:10AM AND THEN IT DAWNED ON ME.
9:14:13AM RESOLUTION NUMBER 568.
9:14:16AM RESOLUTION NUMBER 568 IS HOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
9:14:21AM PRODUCE FREEDOM.
9:14:23AM NOW, WE ALSO -- AND I APPLAUD THE COUNCIL FOR BRINGING THIS
9:14:27AM FORWARD AND CONTINUOUSLY BRINGING THE CONVERSATION FORWARD.
9:14:30AM I APPLAUD THE MEDIA FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.
9:14:33AM BUT WHAT I THINK WE MAY BE DOING IS PUTTING THE BANDAGE OVER
9:14:37AM A SHOTGUN WOUND.
9:14:39AM BECAUSE AS I LOOKED AT THE NEWS MEDIA AND I LOOKED AT ALL
9:14:42AM THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE BEING SELECTED TO
9:14:44AM POTENTIALLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, I
9:14:48AM COULDN'T HELP BUT TO ASK, WHAT WAS THE VETTING PROCESS TO
9:14:52AM CONCLUDE THAT THESE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED TO BE
9:14:56AM PARTICIPATING IN THIS RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE?
9:14:59AM WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PATTERN?
9:15:01AM I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TRULY PRODUCE FREEDOM, WE
9:15:06AM HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
9:15:08AM WE HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT IT.
9:15:11AM WE CANNOT JUST SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S ARBITRARILY THROW
9:15:14AM OUT SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE
9:15:17AM COMMUNITY, SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT GOT A NAME REPUTATION IN
9:15:20AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:15:21AM THAT'S NOT PRODUCING FREEDOM.
9:15:23AM WHAT THAT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY PUT US IN A SITUATION OF
9:15:25AM DOING IS REPRODUCING SOMETHING.
9:15:29AM THE WHOLE THEME THE OTHER DAY, LISTENING TO THE PRESIDENT
9:15:32AM AND ALL THE LEADERS THAT WENT BEFORE HIM, ALL THEY KEPT
9:15:34AM TALKING ABOUT WAS HOW TO REDO SOMETHING THAT THE PREVIOUS
9:15:39AM ADMINISTRATION DONE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT UP
9:15:42AM FRONT.
9:15:42AM SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
9:15:44AM I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER AS YOU PRODUCE FREEDOM
9:15:48AM BASED UPON RESOLUTION NUMBER 568, THAT YOU'RE MINDFUL, THAT
9:15:53AM YOU'RE INTENTIONAL, THAT YOU ARE MOVING IN A STRATEGIC
9:15:56AM FASHION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND TRY TO
9:15:58AM RE-CREATE -- CORRECT THIS THING AT A FUTURE DATE.
9:16:02AM YOU CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING A STRATEGIC PLAN EVEN
9:16:07AM IN DECIDING WHO YOU PUT ON THIS COMMITTEE.
9:16:10AM DON'T JUST PUT A BANDAGE OVER A SHOTGUN WOUND AS WE PRODUCE
9:16:14AM FREEDOM FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 568.
9:16:17AM THANK YOU.
9:16:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:16:19AM ALL RIGHT.
9:16:19AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:16:21AM PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:16:22AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:16:27AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:16:28AM MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:16:32AM LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
9:16:35AM PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:16:38AM YOU KNOW, I WANT TO READ SOME SCRIPT, JUST ONE PARAGRAPH.
9:16:48AM GOD SAY THIS HERE.
9:16:49AM MY PEOPLE, WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, SHALL HUMBLE
9:16:55AM THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, THEN
9:17:03AM WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND FORGIVE THEIR SINS AND HEAL THE
9:17:08AM LAND.
9:17:10AM YOU KNOW, GOD GOING TO DO A WHOLE LOT FOR US, BUT WE WON'T
9:17:14AM LET HIM.
9:17:14AM WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE PEOPLE.
9:17:19AM WE ARE SPIRITUAL, AND WE THANK GOD FOR THIS BLESSING TO BE
9:17:22AM ABLE TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL AGAIN.
9:17:28AM KNOWING THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS HERE THIS PAST TUESDAY, WAS
9:17:34AM IT MONDAY, WAS HERE, AND WHEN THE PRESIDENT, GOVERNMENT,
9:17:41AM ANYBODY COME TO TAMPA, SEND THEM OUT THERE TO EAST TAMPA AND
9:17:45AM LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING FOR US, AND THEY WILL
9:17:50AM SEE N-O-T-H-I-N-G -- NOTHING.
9:17:53AM BUT WE GOT TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR OURSELVES.
9:17:57AM WE ARE TAXPAYERS.
9:18:00AM WE PAY OUR TAX.
9:18:02AM WE PAY THE WATER BILL, THE LIGHT BILL, BUT YOU ALL STILL
9:18:06AM TRYING TO HARM US.
9:18:07AM AND WHY, I DON'T KNOW.
9:18:08AM BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE FEARFUL OF GOD WHAT HE
9:18:13AM WILL DO TO US.
9:18:14AM SO WE'LL KEEP ON PRAYING AND TRUSTING IN THE LORD.
9:18:17AM AND I THANK GOD FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL PRESENT
9:18:21AM HERE TODAY.
9:18:23AM WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE PEOPLE, AND WE ARE NOT JUST
9:18:31AM BLACK PEOPLE OR JUST WHITE PEOPLE.
9:18:33AM WE ARE PEOPLE, PERIOD.
9:18:35AM WE ARE GOD-FEARING PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO LOVE GOD AND TRUST GOD
9:18:40AM FOR EVERYTHING.
9:18:41AM WE REALIZE THAT WE ARE NOT BEING TREATED LIKE CITIZENS OF
9:18:49AM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:18:51AM WE TREATED LIKE OUTCASTS.
9:18:53AM BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE GOT TO GET OUR HEAD TOGETHER,
9:18:59AM GET OUR FOCUS TOGETHER, GET OUR MIND TOGETHER, AND DO WHAT
9:19:04AM GOD WANT US TO DO, WHETHER YOU ALL LIKE IT OR NOT.
9:19:08AM WE GOT WHAT I CALL -- YOU CALL THEM RETAINER LAND.
9:19:17AM YOU ONLY GOT THEM BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSON HEIGHTS.
9:19:20AM YOU AIN'T GOT THEM NOWHERE ELSE.
9:19:22AM RETAINING LAND, IF YOU PUT RETAINING LAND, THEN PUT THEM
9:19:27AM DOWNTOWN.
9:19:28AM PUT THEM EVERYWHERE.
9:19:29AM DON'T JUST PUT THEM IN THE BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSON
9:19:32AM HEIGHTS.
9:19:33AM THAT'S OUR LAND.
9:19:34AM AND WE WANT GOD TO CONTINUE TO BLESS US.
9:19:37AM YOU ALL HAVE MERCY ON US ALL.
9:19:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:19:40AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:19:41AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:19:46AM >> MY NAME IS HASSEIN CALDWELL.
9:19:50AM I JUST WANTED TO GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT HE SAID
9:19:54AM RIGHT THERE ABOUT THE THREE, WHAT IT IS, 368.
9:19:58AM YEAH, 568.
9:20:00AM WHAT I SAY PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO DO, WHEN THEY START AN
9:20:04AM ORGANIZATION, BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO GET OUT IN THE
9:20:06AM COMMUNITY.
9:20:06AM DON'T NOBODY KNOW NOTHING.
9:20:08AM THAT'S WHY THE SAME THING KEEP HAPPENING.
9:20:10AM PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO THIS AND PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE
9:20:13AM GOING TO DO THIS, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE SOLUTION AND
9:20:15AM DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
9:20:17AM A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IT FOR THEMSELVES.
9:20:19AM BUT IF YOU ARE DOING IT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT A LOT OF
9:20:21AM PEOPLE SAY, IF YOU HAVE PASSION FOR SOMETHING, THEN YOU WANT
9:20:25AM TO TREAT IT A CERTAIN WAY.
9:20:28AM IF YOU ARE DOING IT FOR ALL THE GOOD THAT IT BRING YOU AND
9:20:31AM STUFF LIKE THAT, IT IS NEVER GOING TO WORK BECAUSE YOU'RE SO
9:20:35AM BUSY TAKING YOUR EYE OFF WHAT GOD WANT YOU TO DO IF YOU ARE
9:20:41AM A GODLY PERSON.
9:20:42AM WHAT THE FLESH -- EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE TALK LIKE THAT.
9:20:46AM BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE BROTHER RIGHT THERE.
9:20:50AM WHAT WE NEED TO DO, IF SOMEBODY START AN ORGANIZATION AND
9:20:53AM SAY THEY ARE GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, THEN YOU NEED TO
9:20:55AM GET OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:20:56AM I CAME UP HERE ABOUT FOUR TIMES NOW, BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW
9:21:02AM REALLY ABOUT A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT SAYS THEY ARE DOING
9:21:04AM THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
9:21:06AM WHAT I SAY THEY SHOULD DO IS PROBABLY GO OUT IN THE
9:21:09AM COMMUNITY AND LET MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU
9:21:11AM NEVER KNOW WHO IS OUT THERE.
9:21:12AM YOU MIGHT FIND ME, HAVE BUSINESS, AND PUT IT TOGETHER.
9:21:16AM YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF EVERYTHING.
9:21:18AM THAT'S WHAT I SUGGEST FOR ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS TO START
9:21:21AM DOING, DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND NOT WHAT THEY
9:21:26AM WANT TO DO.
9:21:27AM THAT'S IT.
9:21:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:21:30AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:21:31AM YES, SIR.
9:21:32AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:21:36AM >> UHURU, METESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:21:40AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:21:45AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
9:21:49AM FREEDOM.
9:21:49AM 600 YEARS WE HADN'T BEEN FREE.
9:21:51AM AND THE SYSTEM HAVE A WAY OF EVOLVING SLAVERY.
9:22:02AM SLAVERY IS WORSE TODAY FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE THAN IT HAS EVER
9:22:09AM BEEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
9:22:11AM THEY TOOK A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE, PROUD PEOPLE, DE-EDUCATED
9:22:16AM US, AND SAY WE'RE THE FIRST TO DO THIS AND THE FIRST TO DO
9:22:20AM THAT.
9:22:21AM LIFE DON'T WORK THAT WAY.
9:22:25AM MOST PEOPLE YOU MEET CAN'T THINK.
9:22:30AM MOST PEOPLE YOU MEET AREN'T INDEPENDENT THINKERS.
9:22:33AM THEY REALLY EVEN AREN'T COLLECTIVE THINKERS.
9:22:37AM MOST PEOPLE YOU MEET ARE SO CONDITIONED AND PRECONDITIONED
9:22:40AM AND INDOCTRINATED THAT THEY THINK IN REVERSE.
9:22:44AM YOU MEET SOME PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE THE PEDOPHILIA.
9:22:52AM THEY SAY IT IS WRONG FOR A 50-YEAR-OLD MAN TO SLEEP WITH A
9:22:55AM SIX OR SEVEN-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
9:22:58AM THEY SAY THAT'S WRONG.
9:23:01AM LEGALLY, PHILOSOPHICALLY, IDEOLOGICALLY, THEY ARE OPPOSED TO
9:23:05AM IT.
9:23:05AM THEY 100% OPPOSED TO THAT.
9:23:08AM A PERSON MIGHT TELL THEM, HEY, NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
9:23:13AM DO YOU SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE?
9:23:14AM A 50-YEAR-OLD MAN SLEEPING WITH A THREE-, FOUR-,
9:23:22AM FIVE-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
9:23:24AM PEOPLE WOULD BE HORRIFIED TO HEAR AND KNOW THAT.
9:23:28AM PUT HIM AWAY.
9:23:29AM LOCK HIM UP.
9:23:30AM BUT YOU GOT 700 -- 700 PLUS OVER 50-YEAR-OLD MEN AND WOMEN
9:23:41AM VOTING TO SEND A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS TO OCCUPIED
9:23:45AM PALESTINE TO DROP BOMBS ON HOSPITALS.
9:23:51AM SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE.
9:23:54AM SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PICTURE THAT SAY LOCK THEM UP, SAY
9:24:03AM NO TO DRUGS, AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT TARGET AFRICAN
9:24:08AM PEOPLE.
9:24:09AM SPECIFICALLY TARGET AFRICAN PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE DOING
9:24:13AM WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
9:24:15AM ALL THAT HAVE TO STOP.
9:24:17AM WE HAVE TO CORRECT OUR WAY OF THINKING AND BRING EVERYTHING
9:24:22AM INTO THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE.
9:24:24AM ANOTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, TO JUDGE CHRISTOPHER
9:24:29AM SABELLA, THAT CHILD SUPPORT, OFFICER ARABELLA CAMPBELL AND
9:24:35AM CHARLES DENTON, NEED TO GET RID OF THEM.
9:24:38AM THAT WHOLE CHILD SUPPORT SITUATION GOT TO GO.
9:24:42AM THANK YOU.
9:24:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:24:43AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:24:45AM COME ON UP.
9:24:46AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:24:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:24:48AM MY NAME IS TODD RANDOLPH.
9:24:50AM I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR 15 YEARS.
9:24:54AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT WORKSHOP ITEM NUMBER 6 ABOUT THE
9:24:59AM RULES REGARDING ARTIFICIAL TURF AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL
9:25:03AM IMPACT.
9:25:04AM I FIND THE USE OF FAKE PLASTIC LAWNS AND INCREASING
9:25:10AM INSTALLATION OF FAKE PLASTIC LAWNS BEING VERY CONCERNING.
9:25:15AM IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT THESE ARTIFICIAL TURF, FAKE RESIDENTIAL
9:25:21AM LAWNS BREAK DOWN, CONTRIBUTE TO THE MICROPLASTICS ISSUE THAT
9:25:27AM WE ARE FACING TODAY.
9:25:29AM I'VE HEARD MEETING, SCIENTIFIC LEADERS TALK ABOUT HOW THE
9:25:36AM MICROPLASTICS ISSUE IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT ON THE LEVEL OF
9:25:41AM CARBON EMISSIONS CLIMATE CHANGE.
9:25:44AM THE INSTALLATION OF PLASTIC LAWNS REALLY EXACERBATES BOTH.
9:25:53AM THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY RELEASES CARBON EMISSIONS TO
9:26:00AM MANUFACTURE ANY KIND OF PLASTIC.
9:26:01AM TO MAKE THAT STUFF IS CONTRIBUTING TO OUR CLIMATE CHANGE
9:26:06AM PROBLEM, AND TO MAKE PARTICULARLY THIS PRODUCT, WHICH CAN
9:26:11AM ONLY BE BREAKING DOWN INTO ITS IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH
9:26:17AM IS UNREGULATED AND UNCONTROLLED INTO OUR PUBLIC SPACES
9:26:23AM CONTRIBUTING TO OUR MICROPLASTICS IS VERY CONCERNING.
9:26:28AM IT'S BEEN KNOWN FOR YEARS TO CAUSE THIS PROBLEM.
9:26:34AM MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN AMERICA HAVE MADE IT ILLEGAL TO
9:26:39AM INSTALL THIS.
9:26:42AM THAT'S BECOMING OF INCREASING FREQUENCY.
9:26:44AM AND I BELIEVE TAMPA SHOULD CONSIDER ELIMINATING THE USE OF
9:26:48AM ARTIFICIAL TURF, PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC SPACES WHERE IT'S
9:26:54AM KNOWN TO HAVE A HEALTH IMPACT.
9:26:57AM I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS RIGHT TO EXPOSE THE PUBLIC TO A
9:27:00AM PRODUCT THAT IS KNOWN TO HAVE THIS HEALTH IMPACT.
9:27:04AM AND THEN ALSO AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL INSTALLATION, THERE
9:27:08AM SHOULD BE -- THAT SHOULD BE MORE CONTROLLED.
9:27:11AM IT'S SHOCKING THE AMOUNT OF FAKE PLASTIC LAWNS THAT ARE
9:27:16AM BEING INSTALLED.
9:27:17AM THEY ARE KNOWN TO BE VERY HOT, INCREASING THE SURFACE
9:27:23AM TEMPERATURES AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE HEAT THAT WE'RE FACING,
9:27:27AM AND THEY ARE KNOWN TO CONTRIBUTE ALL THESE MICROPLASTICS.
9:27:32AM LAST WEEK, WE HAD THE EPA SAY YOU GOT TO REMOVE THESE
9:27:36AM FOREVER CHEMICALS, PFAS.
9:27:39AM THESE LAWNS CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM.
9:27:41AM THAT'S GOING TO BE A GROWING PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY
9:27:44AM A LOT OF MONEY TO CLEAN UP, AND WE WANT TO FIX THAT BEFORE
9:27:48AM IT GETS WORSE.
9:27:49AM THANK YOU.
9:27:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:27:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
9:27:53AM MY APOLOGIES.
9:27:56AM THERE WAS A TERRIBLE CRASH AND WAS IN TRAFFIC FOR ALMOST AN
9:27:59AM HOUR AND A HALF.
9:28:00AM JUST FYI.
9:28:01AM THANK YOU.
9:28:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:28:02AM GOOD MORNING.
9:28:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:28:03AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:28:05AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR MOVING
9:28:11AM FORWARD IN APPROVING AND ESTABLISHING A RACIAL
9:28:19AM RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
9:28:22AM MY VERY, VERY MUCH CONCERN IS I WISH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
9:28:28AM WITHIN A WORKSHOP SETTING SO WE WOULD HAVE HAD AN
9:28:33AM OPPORTUNITY TO THRASH OUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF IDEAS.
9:28:38AM HEAR FROM ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS TO WHAT'S THEIR
9:28:41AM PREFERENCE.
9:28:41AM I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH THAT,
9:28:46AM BECAUSE IT IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE.
9:28:47AM IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN TAKING A COUPLE
9:28:53AM OF WEEKS TO COME TO SOME KIND OF FINAL REPORT.
9:28:56AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONGOING ISSUES THAT HAS DEALT WITH
9:29:03AM AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, THAT HAS PUT US IN A BAD
9:29:07AM SITUATION AS WE SEE THIS CITY PROGRESSING AND MOVING
9:29:11AM FORWARD.
9:29:12AM IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR WORKSHOP ISSUE NUMBER ONE, IT'S VERY
9:29:16AM CLEAR.
9:29:17AM THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS, AND NOT THIS PARTICULAR
9:29:22AM ORGANIZATION, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY THROWN TOWARD
9:29:25AM SOCIAL JUSTICE.
9:29:26AM THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAS TARGETED SORORITIES,
9:29:31AM FRATERNITIES, NONPROFITS.
9:29:33AM THEY ALL USE THE DATA TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE DEALING
9:29:37AM WITH THE ISSUES OF POVERTY AND INJUSTICE.
9:29:40AM BUT IF WE HAD BEEN CONCENTRATING, IF THERE HAD BEEN
9:29:46AM STRATEGIC REPORTS, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY TO COME BACK AND DO
9:29:50AM AN EVALUATION, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
9:29:53AM WE ARE HERE BECAUSE MONEY IS MOST OF THE TIMES THROWN AT THE
9:29:57AM PROBLEM AND PEOPLE FEEL GOOD AT THE END OF THE DAY.
9:30:00AM THE RESOLUTION 568 COMMITTEE HAS TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL IN
9:30:03AM SAYING HOW DO WE START THE HEALING?
9:30:06AM THE HEALING HAS NOT OCCURRED BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DEALT WITH
9:30:11AM IT IN WAYS WE SAY IN WRITING WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE NOT DONE
9:30:17AM THINGS RIGHT.
9:30:19AM EACH WEEK WHEN YOU ADDRESS THE AGENDA AND MOVING THOUSANDS
9:30:22AM AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, AND WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEFICITS
9:30:25AM INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES OF MASS
9:30:29AM INCARCERATION STILL GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT
9:30:33AM GOING TO BE BY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN TRULY ADDRESS
9:30:35AM THESE ISSUES WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO THE SAME POOL AND
9:30:39AM GETTING DOLLARS.
9:30:40AM WE PLAN ON HAVING A COMMITTEE THAT WANTS TO DO STRATEGIC
9:30:47AM HEALING.
9:30:47AM AND THAT MEANS THAT EVEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALREADY SELECTED
9:30:51AM TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THIS
9:30:56AM COMMUNITY FOR NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.
9:30:58AM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
9:30:59AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD.
9:31:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:03AM YES, MA'AM.
9:31:03AM YES, SIR.
9:31:04AM GOOD MORNING.
9:31:08AM >> WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
9:31:12AM GOOD MORNING.
9:31:13AM BEGIN BY SAYING IT IS AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE TO BURN A
9:31:17AM VACATION DAY TO BE WITH YOU FOR TODAY'S UPCOMING TREE
9:31:19AM WORKSHOP.
9:31:20AM THE QUESTION I SUPPOSE IS WHY SOMEONE WOULD DO IT.
9:31:23AM I WON'T LIE.
9:31:24AM OBVIOUSLY, I LOVE TREES.
9:31:25AM I THINK THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST MAJESTIC, SENTIENT
9:31:29AM CREATIONS ON THE PLANET, PARTICULARLY THE GRAND OAKS.
9:31:32AM I SUPPORT THE MOST HARDEN, PROFIT DRIVEN BUILDER MARVELS AT
9:31:36AM THEIR GRANDEUR BEFORE CUTTING THEM DOWN.
9:31:38AM THE BENEFIT MATURE TREES HAVE ON THIS COMMUNITY GOES WITHOUT
9:31:43AM SAYING, ESPECIALLY SINCE I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES AND
9:31:45AM YOU'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE.
9:31:46AM I BELIEVE THE REAL REASON I TOOK TIME OFF TO BE HERE WITH
9:31:50AM YOU IS BECAUSE I LOVE TAMPA.
9:31:52AM I THINK IT IS AN AMAZING CITY TRYING HARD, THANKS IN PART TO
9:31:55AM ALL OF YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS.
9:31:57AM I WANTED TO BE HERE AS A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR ONE OF THOSE
9:32:00AM RIGHT THINGS.
9:32:02AM THE WORKSHOP FOCUSED ON HOPEFULLY REVERSING THE NOT SO SLOW
9:32:07AM DEMISE OF A CANOPY THAT VERY MUCH DEFINES THIS CITY AND
9:32:10AM CONTRIBUTES SO MUCH TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
9:32:13AM IT IS TRULY REMARKABLE, PERHAPS MIRACULOUS, THAT THE CANOPY
9:32:17AM WE FIGHT SO HARD TO PROTECT, THE NATIONALLY ACCLAIMED URBAN
9:32:20AM FOREST THAT SHIELDS US FROM THE FAST-APPROACHING, SEEMINGLY
9:32:24AM APOCALYPTIC SUMMERS WASN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
9:32:27AM EVOLVED OVER THE LAST CENTURY FROM SCRUB, BORN FROM GIANT
9:32:32AM OAKS NOW LONG GONE.
9:32:33AM A GIFT FROM GOD AND JOE CHILLURA.
9:32:37AM RESULT OF TREE CODES AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS OF THE
9:32:40AM DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, AND A LITANY OF PRIVATE
9:32:43AM CITIZENS AND GRASSROOTS EFFORTS AND YOU.
9:32:46AM RESULT IS PROTECTIVE CANOPY AT JUST THE RIGHT TIME.
9:32:51AM WHILE CITIES ALL ACROSS THIS PLANET AND COUNTRIES ARE
9:32:54AM SCRAMBLING TO REVIVE CANOPIES IN THE SINGLE DIGITS, TAMPA IS
9:32:58AM IN THE ENVIABLE POSITION TO REGAIN AND RETAIN ITS STANDING
9:33:01AM AS THE MOST TREE-COVERED CITY IN THE WORLD.
9:33:05AM AT A TIME WHEN TREES ARE TRENDING, THE CITY HAS THE
9:33:08AM OPPORTUNITY TO POSITION ITSELF AS LITERALLY THE GREENEST
9:33:10AM CITY ON EARTH.
9:33:11AM ACHIEVEMENT THAT CAN AND WILL DRAW PROGRESSIVE RESIDENTS TO
9:33:16AM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, PROGRESSIVE BUSINESSES TO OUR
9:33:18AM STOREFRONTS, BUSINESS PARKS AND OFFICE TOWERS.
9:33:21AM BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ENSURE TAMPA BECOMES A BASTION OF
9:33:27AM SHADE AND CARBON REMOVAL THAT NOT ONLY BENEFITS OUR CITIZENS
9:33:30AM BUT MAKES US AN ENVY OF AN EVER-WARMING WORLD.
9:33:34AM IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM SO GLAD I DON'T NEED TO
9:33:37AM BE HERE AS MUCH AS I USED TO BE AND THAT IS BECAUSE I TRUST
9:33:42AM YOU.
9:33:43AM I BELIEVE IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND I AM PROUD OF
9:33:46AM YOU, OF US, FOR SEATING WHAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST
9:33:51AM DIVERSE CITY COUNCILS IN THE NATION.
9:33:52AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:33:54AM AND THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING THE TREES AND IN DOING, THE
9:33:57AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:34:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:34:01AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:34:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:34:02AM MY NAME IS SURGRET DAWSON.
9:34:06AM I'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL BEEN SERVED THIS.
9:34:15AM I DID GET YOUR E-MAIL REFLECTING THAT YOU HAD INTENDED TO
9:34:20AM ADDRESS THE MATTER I BROUGHT UP IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL
9:34:23AM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
9:34:25AM YOU KNOW, THE GENTLEMAN SAID I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
9:34:28AM I KNOW MY MAN HERE UNDERSTANDS IT ALSO.
9:34:31AM THOSE OF US WHO TOOK THE OATH AND WE WERE WILLING TO PAY FOR
9:34:34AM THAT OATH WITH OUR LIVES, IT'S AMAZING HOW WE HEAR, I
9:34:39AM APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND ALWAYS SAY IT WAS MY HONOR
9:34:41AM BECAUSE I WAS.
9:34:42AM I JOINED WHEN I WAS 17 YEARS OLD, SOME ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO.
9:34:48AM WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS I GET TIRED OF THE LIP SERVICE.
9:34:52AM YOU HAVE BEEN SERVED WITH THIS WRIT OF MANDAMUS WHICH ONLY
9:34:56AM DIRECT ME TO DO WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE BACK IN 2017.
9:34:58AM IT BOTHERS ME THAT I HAVE TO COME HERE AND GO THROUGH THIS
9:35:03AM BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE BEGGING YOU FOR
9:35:06AM SOMETHING, AND I DON'T BEG FOR ANYTHING.
9:35:07AM I DEMAND IT THE SAME WAY I EXPECT PEOPLE TO DEMAND ME TO
9:35:12AM FULFILL THE OATH THAT I TOOK AND YOU ALL TOOK THE SAME OATH
9:35:16AM PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 876 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE, SUBSECTION
9:35:19AM 5, IN FACT, WHEN YOU ALL SIGNED UP TO DO THESE JOBS OR
9:35:22AM FULFILL THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.
9:35:24AM BUT LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAYS, CUT DOWN THE TREES, IT'S
9:35:28AM AMAZING THAT WHEN WE DEMAND WHAT'S OURS, EVEN PURSUANT TO
9:35:33AM ARTICLE 161 OF THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION BECAUSE ALL
9:35:35AM POLITICAL POWERS INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE AND YOU ALL KNOW
9:35:38AM THAT.
9:35:38AM I KNOW WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO
9:35:42AM MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA REALIZE THAT THE ONLY WAY
9:35:45AM YOU CAN GET ANYTHING THAT HAPPEN, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO
9:35:48AM MOVE TOWARD YOUR GOAL.
9:35:50AM I WANT THE 7,000 E-MAILS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN HERE,
9:35:54AM SECOND DCA AGAIN, TO ADDRESS IT, BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST
9:35:58AM ANYBODY IN TAMPA.
9:35:59AM AS TO MS. ARABELLA CAMPBELL AND CHARLES DENTON, QUIT THE
9:36:05AM CASE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE JOB PURSUANT TO 876 OF
9:36:10AM THE FLORIDA STATUTE.
9:36:11AM MS. CAMPBELL CAME UP WITH SOME CONCEPT THAT WE DIDN'T
9:36:14AM DISCUSS IN THE HEARING AND FOR MR. JUDGE SABELLA, I EXPECT
9:36:19AM YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AND REMOVE HER IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT
9:36:22AM SOONER.
9:36:22AM I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SUFFERED THESE ATROCITIES AT THE
9:36:26AM HANDS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND JUDGES AND OTHER
9:36:29AM OFFICIALS OF THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT AND SECOND DCA.
9:36:33AM I'M WILLING TO COME HERE AND STAND FOR IT.
9:36:36AM THAT BEING SAID, YOU ALL ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY AND
9:36:40AM SHOUT-OUT TO UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
9:36:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:36:44AM YES, MA'AM.
9:36:44AM GOOD MORNING.
9:36:45AM >> I'M VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE
9:36:48AM HILL.
9:36:49AM I WANT TO COME AND TALK ABOUT RESOLUTION 568.
9:36:52AM I SEEN ON THE PAPER THAT YOU ALL HAVE CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS
9:36:55AM THAT YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF IT.
9:36:58AM WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE MADE A PROFIT OFF
9:37:01AM OF OUR PAIN.
9:37:02AM FOR ONE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GOT THE HIGHEST RECIDIVISM RATE
9:37:06AM IN THE NATION.
9:37:08AM SO THAT TELLS ME THAT PLANNING FOR PEOPLE GET OUT OF PRISON,
9:37:13AM THAT'S NOT WORKING.
9:37:14AM WE NEED SOME PROGRAMS THAT DETER OR THAT STOP PEOPLE FROM
9:37:19AM ENTERING INTO A PRISON.
9:37:22AM ABE BROWN MINISTRY.
9:37:24AM ABE BROWN WAS A GOOD MAN.
9:37:26AM HE HAD AN EXCELLENT LEGACY.
9:37:27AM WHOEVER IS RUNNING IT NOW, THEY ARE MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF
9:37:30AM OUR PAIN.
9:37:31AM THEY HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSES, AND THOSE
9:37:35AM ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ALLOWED IN THE PROGRAM.
9:37:38AM THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN AND RAISED IN THAT SAME
9:37:42AM NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE ABE BROWN MINISTRIES SIT, WE CAN'T
9:37:45AM PARTAKE IN THOSE PROGRAMS.
9:37:47AM I WENT DOWN THERE FOR MYSELF AND TALKED TO MR. BLUNT.
9:37:50AM NO, WE CANNOT.
9:37:52AM HE SAY HE GET GOVERNMENT FUNDING AND THE GOVERNMENT TELL HIM
9:37:56AM HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY.
9:37:57AM SO WE CAN'T USE THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS AND EXPECT A
9:38:01AM DIFFERENT RESULT.
9:38:03AM WE CAN LOOK AT THEIR FRUIT AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND
9:38:07AM SO FAR IT HASN'T MADE A DIFFERENCE.
9:38:10AM WE NEED TO THINK RADICAL AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX WHEN IT
9:38:13AM COMES TO APPOINTING ORGANIZATIONS TO 568.
9:38:17AM AND WE HAVE TO BE RADICAL.
9:38:19AM BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO JOBS, ECONOMIC STABILITY AND
9:38:24AM FINANCIAL AND HOUSING, BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO FAR BEHIND WE
9:38:28AM DON'T HAVE TIME TO PUSSYFOOT AROUND WITH IT.
9:38:32AM WE HAVE TO HAVE TARGETED PLANS WITH GOALS THAT WE CAN
9:38:36AM MEASURE AND THE ORGANIZATIONS WHO YOU ALL ARE SUGGESTING,
9:38:40AM THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON 568 RESOLUTION.
9:38:43AM I SEE YOU GOT A WORKSHOP TODAY WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
9:38:48AM ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORKSHOP.
9:38:51AM THE FUNDS THAT YOU GIVE THEM, TIED INTO 568, AND THAT WOULD
9:38:56AM BE A GOOD START FOR CHANGING THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS THAT
9:39:00AM BLACK PEOPLE FACE, AND IT SHOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN
9:39:04AM BE MEASURED.
9:39:05AM WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP.
9:39:07AM WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STUDY.
9:39:09AM WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER SEMINAR.
9:39:12AM WE NEED PROGRAMS AND PEOPLE THAT GOT PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE
9:39:19AM PUT ON TO 568 RESOLUTION BOARD SO WE CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE
9:39:24AM AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
9:39:26AM THANK YOU.
9:39:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:39:29AM YES, MA'AM.
9:39:31AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:39:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:39:33AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:39:34AM YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I SAID THIS BEFORE 568 KIND OF
9:39:42AM STARTED TO BECOME A COMMITTEE.
9:39:43AM NEEDS SOMEBODY TO CARRY THE FOOTBALL.
9:39:48AM WHEN THE MAYOR ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO
9:39:51AM TOUCH IT WITH A TEN-FOOT POLE, I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S
9:39:55AM COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE.
9:39:55AM IT'S WRONG.
9:39:58AM WHY IS IT THAT WITHIN HER CITY, SHE IS THE MAYOR, SHE IS THE
9:40:01AM LEADERSHIP, SHE SAID I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THIS.
9:40:03AM IT'S WRONG.
9:40:06AM AND SHE IS THE ONE WHO CONTROLS CITY STAFF AND YOU ALL DID A
9:40:09AM REALLY NICE JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER A DIFFERENT WAY TO MAKE
9:40:13AM THINGS HAPPEN, BUT YOU GUYS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THE
9:40:16AM BOSSES.
9:40:16AM IT'S HER JOB TO BE THE BOSS OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR
9:40:20AM STAFF FOR THE CITY.
9:40:20AM AND THIS IS WRONG THAT IT'S BEING IGNORED BY THE MAYOR.
9:40:25AM AND HERE'S THE THING, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE BUDGET
9:40:30AM COMMITTEE KIND OF FLOUNDERED ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO MOVE
9:40:33AM FORWARD.
9:40:34AM YESTERDAY, I FIND OUT THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE
9:40:37AM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PUT IN PLACE 11 YEARS AGO NEVER
9:40:43AM HAPPENED.
9:40:45AM THAT YOU GUYS DON'T CONTROL.
9:40:47AM THAT'S ON THE MAYOR.
9:40:48AM SO ALL THESE FOLKS WHO HAVE SHOWN UP HERE, AND I SAID THIS
9:40:53AM BEFORE, WE STARTED MAKING MOTIONS AND RESOLUTION, THAT YOU
9:40:58AM CAN'T IGNORE THE FOLKS COMING IN HERE.
9:41:01AM THEY WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF ON IT.
9:41:03AM AND TO NOT HAVE THEM BEING MEMBERS OF THE BOARDS IS
9:41:06AM ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS.
9:41:08AM YOU GUYS HAVE TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
9:41:12AM AND SOMEBODY OVER THERE IN THE NEXT BUILDING OVER THERE
9:41:14AM NEEDS TO BE EMBARRASSED THAT SHE DOESN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING
9:41:18AM AS IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY AS THIS IS.
9:41:22AM THANK YOU.
9:41:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:23AM ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S WISHING TO SPEAK?
9:41:25AM IF NOT, I'LL GO TO THE REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
9:41:28AM ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE LORRAINE PARRINO WHO IS HERE FOR THREE
9:41:32AM AND FOUR.
9:41:32AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT HERE FOR 3 AND 4, AND THEY WILL SPEAK
9:41:37AM AFTER 3 AND 4.
9:41:38AM ALSO RAHEEMA McCOY GREEN, IF SHE'S ON.
9:41:42AM NO.
9:41:42AM ALL RIGHT.
9:41:43AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE GENERAL SENSE.
9:41:45AM WE'LL KICK OFF THE WORKSHOP WITH ITEM NUMBER 1 REGARDING THE
9:41:49AM EDC.
9:41:50AM WHO IS HERE TO START THAT?
9:41:53AM THAT WAS A MOTION INITIATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:41:56AM I SEE JAVIER IS HERE.
9:41:58AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:41:59AM YES, MA'AM.
9:42:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:42:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:42:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING.
9:42:08AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WRITTEN REPORT.
9:42:10AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:42:10AM IT DOES TALK ABOUT WHO DOES OR WHAT THE EDC IS DOING, HOW
9:42:22AM WE'RE GETTING GROUPS TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY
9:42:25AM DISCUSS RAISING THE MEDIAN WAGE.
9:42:27AM AND THAT'S REALLY THE BIG ISSUE.
9:42:31AM AND IT'S HARD.
9:42:32AM I GET THAT.
9:42:33AM BUT WHERE DO WE GO?
9:42:35AM HOW DO WE KEEP MOVING THAT FORWARD?
9:42:36AM BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, THAT'S ONE
9:42:39AM OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ASKING US TO DO IS
9:42:43AM PROVIDE JOBS THAT HAVE BETTER MEDIAN WAGES.
9:42:46AM I HEAR ABOUT ALL THE COMPANIES BRINGING TO TOWN AND BRINGING
9:42:52AM TALENT.
9:42:53AM WE DON'T NEED TO BRING TALENT HERE.
9:42:54AM WE NEED TO USE THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE AND PAY THEM WELL.
9:42:57AM OUR AREA MEDIAN INCOME HAS RISEN DRASTICALLY, BUT IT'S
9:43:04AM LEAVING THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE BEHIND.
9:43:06AM SO WHAT DO WE DO?
9:43:09AM HOW DO WE MOVE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE
9:43:13AM FORWARD?
9:43:13AM IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'LL BE ABLE TO SOLVE TODAY.
9:43:15AM I TRULY UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:43:17AM BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT CONVERSATION ROLLING AND SEEING
9:43:19AM WHAT WE CAN DO.
9:43:20AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.
9:43:24AM >>JAVIER MARIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:43:26AM JAVIER MARIN, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
9:43:31AM >> BRENDA McKENZIE, DIRECTOR OF WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS FOR
9:43:34AM THE CITY.
9:43:35AM >>JAVIER MARIN: WE CAN GO OVER THE WHOLE MEMO OR SPEAK
9:43:38AM SPECIFICALLY ON ITEMS 2 AND 3 THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESS THE
9:43:41AM ISSUE OF THE AVERAGE WAGE.
9:43:45AM AND THEN WE WILL DEVELOP OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONTINUED
9:43:50AM DIALOGUE IN THAT SENSE.
9:43:51AM WOULD THAT WORK?
9:43:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:43:55AM HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.
9:43:58AM IN TERMS OF THE MINIMUM WAGE AND INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES
9:44:01AM FOR PEOPLE FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT AND ECONOMIC
9:44:04AM MOBILITY, THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF LEGWORK THAT'S
9:44:08AM ALREADY BEEN DONE.
9:44:09AM THE MAYOR'S WORKFORCE COUNCIL STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
9:44:12AM WORKING ON A COLLABORATIVE ACTION PLAN, ONE TO ASSESS THE
9:44:15AM RESOURCES THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE.
9:44:16AM TWO, TO LOOK FOR HIGH POTENTIAL WAGE OPPORTUNITIES.
9:44:20AM AND THREE, TO LOOK FOR UPSCALING OPPORTUNITIES TO REACH
9:44:24AM TRADITIONAL AND NONTRADITIONAL PERSONS WHO ARE LOOKING TO
9:44:28AM INCREASE THEIR ECONOMIC MOBILITY.
9:44:29AM IN TERMS OF MINIMUM WAGE SPECIFICALLY, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY
9:44:33AM DOES NOT CONTROL THE MINIMUM WAGE.
9:44:35AM THAT'S CURRENTLY SET ABOUT $12 AN HOUR.
9:44:37AM WE KNOW THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A LIVING WAGE.
9:44:40AM IF WE LOOK AT LIVING WAGE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CALCULATORS
9:44:43AM THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
9:44:44AM THERE'S ONE AT M.I.T.
9:44:46AM DIFFERENT ONES YOU CAN USE.
9:44:47AM THAT TENDS TO BE AROUND $22 AN HOUR.
9:44:49AM WE KNOW IF WE FOCUS ON THE MINIMUM WAGE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO
9:44:51AM GET US TO THE LIVING WAGE, BUT HOW DO WE UPSCALE AND BRING
9:44:57AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE ALONG THE
9:44:59AM CONTINUUM?
9:45:00AM AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF KEY INDUSTRIES THAT TAMPA HAS
9:45:04AM WORKING WITH EDC AND OTHERS THAT ARE REALLY MOVING FORWARD.
9:45:07AM SO HOW DO WE GET THOSE COMPANIES TO TRAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES,
9:45:11AM TO PUT THEM IN PATHWAYS SO THEY CAN MOVE ALONG, WHETHER IT'S
9:45:14AM HEALTH CARE, HOW DO YOU MOVE FROM A CNA TO BE AN RN?
9:45:19AM WHETHER IN TECHNOLOGY, HOW DO YOU MOVE FROM ENTRY LEVEL ON
9:45:21AM UP?
9:45:22AM LOOKING FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND WORKING FOR THE TRAINERS
9:45:25AM TO DO THAT.
9:45:26AM WE HAD TO COALESCE 55 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR
9:45:29AM ECOSYSTEM TO PUT TOGETHER THE INITIAL GAME PLAN OF HOW WE
9:45:33AM LEVERAGE THAT.
9:45:34AM THAT WAS CONCLUDED OR PUBLISHED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR,
9:45:38AM AND WE'RE NOW ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION.
9:45:41AM WE DO LOOK AT A NUMBER OF NONTRADITIONAL POPULATIONS,
9:45:45AM RETURNING CITIZENS, THOSE WHO ARE JUST AS INVOLVED BECAUSE
9:45:48AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES MAY
9:45:51AM BE, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE
9:45:55AM REALLY BURGEONING HERE IN TAMPA.
9:45:57AM I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE WERE AWARDED LAST WEEK A TECHNICAL
9:46:00AM ASSISTANCE GRANT FOR HIGH POTENTIAL INNOVATIVE OPPORTUNITIES
9:46:02AM FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
9:46:03AM WE'LL BE PARTNERING WITH A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS IN ORDER
9:46:06AM TO FIND THAT.
9:46:08AM IT IS A YEARLONG OPPORTUNITY.
9:46:10AM WE WILL BE ABLE TO BENCHMARK WITH HIGH POTENTIAL
9:46:14AM OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND BEYOND SO THAT WE
9:46:16AM CAN CUSTOMIZE SOLUTIONS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR TAMPA AND BRING
9:46:20AM THEM HOME.
9:46:20AM SO WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING.
9:46:22AM WE'RE ALL EARS IN TERMS OF THAT COLLABORATION BECAUSE WE
9:46:25AM KNOW WE'RE BETTER TOGETHER.
9:46:26AM AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO DO THAT.
9:46:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:46:30AM HOW MUCH WAS THE GRANT FOR?
9:46:32AM >> IT IS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, SO THEY PAY FOR THE TECHNICAL
9:46:35AM EXPERTISE.
9:46:35AM THEY PAY FOR TRAVEL SO THAT WE CAN COALESCE WITH THE COHORT.
9:46:39AM BUT THERE'S NOT A MONETARY AMOUNT.
9:46:41AM NOW, TYPICALLY WITH THESE THINGS, IT AS TWO-STEP PROCESS.
9:46:44AM FIRST YOU DO THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PLANNING PART AND
9:46:46AM THEN YOU APPLY FOR THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
9:46:49AM WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH OTHERS, INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY
9:46:52AM FOUNDATION OF TAMPA BAY.
9:46:53AM SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR
9:46:57AM OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE GET
9:47:00AM PEOPLE UPSCALED AND GET THE TRAINING SO NOT ONLY THEY CAN
9:47:02AM GET THE ENTRY LEVEL JOB.
9:47:04AM IT'S NOT ABOUT A JOB.
9:47:05AM IT'S REALLY ABOUT BUILDING THAT CAREER THAT WILL SUSTAIN
9:47:08AM THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR A LIFETIME.
9:47:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
9:47:13AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO -- WHAT ARE OUR MEASURABLE GOALS HERE?
9:47:16AM HOW ARE WE TRACKING THIS?
9:47:18AM HOW ARE WE -- AND HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY FIND OUT ABOUT THESE
9:47:22AM OPPORTUNITIES?
9:47:24AM >> SO THERE IS A WEBSITE, TPAWORX.COM.
9:47:27AM THAT IS ACTIVE NOW, AND FOLKS CAN GO THERE.
9:47:30AM THE PLAN I REFERENCED IS LOCATED ON THAT DOCUMENT SO THEY
9:47:34AM CAN SEE THE ACTION STEPS.
9:47:36AM THEY CAN SEE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE INVOLVED.
9:47:39AM THEY CAN SEE HOW WE'RE MOVING ALONG THE CONTINUUM AS WE MOVE
9:47:41AM FORWARD.
9:47:42AM BUT WE DON'T STOP WITH THOSE GROUPS.
9:47:44AM WE'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING TO OTHERS NOW THAT THE PLAN IS OUT
9:47:47AM THERE AND WE'RE IN IMPLEMENTATION MODE, BECAUSE, AGAIN,
9:47:51AM THERE'S A LOT TO DO.
9:47:52AM WE KNOW THE CITY BY OURSELVES, WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES.
9:47:56AM WE HAVE TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE PARTNERS IN ORDER TO MOVE
9:47:59AM FORWARD.
9:47:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ARE YOU REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES?
9:48:02AM WHO IS DOING THAT OUTREACH?
9:48:04AM >> WE HAVE ABOUT 25 MEMBERS OF THE WORKFORCE COUNCIL
9:48:06AM THEMSELVES.
9:48:07AM THEY HAVE OUTREACHED TO ABOUT 80 MEMBERS OF A BROADER GROUP
9:48:12AM THEY ARE WORKING WITH, AND WE CONTINUE TO CONNECT AND TALK
9:48:14AM TO OTHER PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY.
9:48:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:48:18AM THANK YOU.
9:48:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
9:48:20AM YES, SIR.
9:48:23AM COUNCIL MEMBER, VIERA.
9:48:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:48:24AM THANK YOU GUYS ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND WHATNOT.
9:48:29AM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE
9:48:31AM LOOKING AT IN THE COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT HERE
9:48:35AM TODAY IS RETURNING CITIZENS.
9:48:36AM I KNOW THAT WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON SOME PROGRAMS AND YOU
9:48:39AM ALL HAVE DONE REALLY, REALLY GREAT WORK.
9:48:41AM I DO THINK IT IS GOOD TO GIVE THE CITY A REAL PAT ON THE
9:48:44AM BACK FOR THE ISSUE BECAUSE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THERE
9:48:46AM WASN'T MUCH HAPPENING AND NOW THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING, AND
9:48:49AM WE CAN USE THAT AS A FOUNDATION ON JUST A REALLY, REALLY BIG
9:48:53AM ISSUE.
9:48:53AM I THINK THE STATISTIC IS THAT EVERY YEAR, 750,000 AMERICANS
9:48:59AM LEAVE INCARCERATION, THE PRISON SYSTEM.
9:49:03AM WITHIN THREE YEARS, TWO-THIRDS WILL BE BACK IN CONTACT WITH
9:49:06AM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
9:49:08AM AND THAT IS A REAL, REAL FAILURE OF SOCIETY.
9:49:10AM WE'RE DOING THINGS, I KNOW.
9:49:12AM COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE GRANT WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE OR I
9:49:14AM THINK IT WAS $100,000 FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, I BELIEVE IT
9:49:17AM WAS 300,000.
9:49:19AM WASN'T A GRANT.
9:49:20AM IT WAS A BUDGET ALLOCATION WORKED TOGETHER ON FOR RETURN TO
9:49:24AM WORK FOR THE SECULAR ARM OF ABE BROWN MINISTRIES, IF YOU
9:49:27AM WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
9:49:29AM WE WORKED WITH COMMISSIONER MYERS.
9:49:31AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
9:49:32AM DEFINITELY WITH YOUR GUIDANCE WE'VE BEEN ON THE CUTTING EDGE
9:49:34AM WITH THIS ISSUE.
9:49:35AM WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH CAREER SOURCE TAMPA BAY.
9:49:38AM THEY WORKED WITH ABE BROWN MINISTRIES IN DESIGNING A
9:49:41AM PROGRAM.
9:49:41AM THAT PROGRAM IS PRETTY WELL SUBSCRIBED.
9:49:44AM WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
9:49:46AM THE AGREEMENT ITSELF HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED AND THAT WILL BE
9:49:51AM COMING BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
9:49:53AM THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO THAT PROGRAM.
9:49:56AM WHAT IS NICE, IF I COULD SAY, ABOUT THE NLC OPPORTUNITY THAT
9:50:01AM WE WERE RECENTLY AWARDED IS IT ENABLES US TO TAKE IT TO THE
9:50:04AM NEXT LEVEL.
9:50:05AM NOW SOMEBODY HAS A JOB, BUT HOW DO WE ACTIVELY HELP TO
9:50:08AM UPSCALE THEM SO THEY CAN MOVE UP IN THAT ORGANIZATION?
9:50:11AM FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN HOSPITALITY, MAYBE
9:50:14AM THEY GET A JOB AT THE HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET, BUT HOW DO
9:50:17AM THEY MOVE FROM THAT ENTRY LEVEL POSITION TO A MANAGEMENT
9:50:20AM POSITION?
9:50:20AM WORKING WITH PARTNERS LIKE HCC, THEN WORKING WITH PARTNERS
9:50:23AM LIKE USF AND THE HOSPITALITY SCHOOL, HOW DO WE PROVIDE THOSE
9:50:28AM OPPORTUNITIES SO PEOPLE CAN MOVE AS FAR AS THEIR TALENTS
9:50:31AM WILL TAKE THEM.
9:50:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S, AGAIN, SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT I
9:50:36AM SEE LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOING MORE AND MORE ON.
9:50:38AM THE BASIC ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EQUIP
9:50:41AM PEOPLE WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO SUCCEED SO WE CAN TEACH A
9:50:45AM PERSON TO FISH FOR LIFE, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH RETURNING
9:50:48AM CITIZENS, THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S
9:50:52AM SUCH A STIGMA OUT THERE, SUCH A PREJUDICE OUT THERE.
9:50:55AM THINGS THAT ARE IMPLICIT IN PEOPLE.
9:50:57AM LOOK, I'M TRANSPARENT.
9:50:58AM I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE TEN YEARS AGO YOU WOULD ASK ABOUT THIS
9:51:01AM ISSUE AND I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT TO MYSELF, EH, MAYBE NOT MY
9:51:05AM ISSUE.
9:51:05AM IT IS MY ISSUE.
9:51:06AM IF YOU GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY, IT SURE AS HECK HAS TO BE
9:51:10AM YOUR ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE OF RESTORATION AND ISSUE
9:51:13AM OF MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK
9:51:15AM TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND HAVE
9:51:18AM DISTRICTS AND RESPECT ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
9:51:20AM THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
9:51:22AM SKILL TRADE APPRENTICESHIPS.
9:51:24AM MADE REAL GOOD MOVEMENT ON THAT WORK FOR PEOPLE WITH
9:51:26AM DISABILITIES, ET CETERA.
9:51:28AM BUT THE MAJOR ISSUE IS EQUIPPING PEOPLE WITH THE SKILLS THEY
9:51:30AM NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR OWN LIFE.
9:51:32AM HERE IN FLORIDA, WE COULD HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ON OUR
9:51:34AM PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
9:51:35AM MY SON GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND WE HAVE MILES TO GO.
9:51:39AM IN FACT, IN MY OPINION, WE RETREATED ON THAT ISSUE A LOT AND
9:51:42AM THERE'S NO GREATER INVESTMENT IN THE WORKFORCE THAN A GOOD
9:51:46AM PUBLIC QUALITY SCHOOL SYSTEM.
9:51:48AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:51:50AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
9:51:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
9:51:52AM YES, MA'AM.
9:51:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE THE END OF THIS
9:52:00AM CONVERSATION.
9:52:00AM I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF THE BEGINNING.
9:52:03AM AS THE FOLKS CAME UP TODAY TO TALK ABOUT RESOLUTION 568 AND
9:52:08AM THE NEW COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN FORMED, I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE
9:52:11AM THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE INVITED DURING THE CONVERSATION ON
9:52:14AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO THE THING THAT I'M ASKING YOU
9:52:19AM TO TIE IN IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON WITH YOUTH.
9:52:25AM NOT JUST THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, BUT HOW DO WE
9:52:28AM GET YOUTH.
9:52:33AM A LOT OF IT STARTS VERY EARLY.
9:52:36AM WE'RE LOOKING AT PARKS PROGRAMS.
9:52:37AM WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS TO REACH YOUNG PEOPLE.
9:52:40AM AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THEM, AS THEY GET INTO TEENAGERS AND
9:52:44AM AS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WORK, OF THE AGE THAT THEY CAN GET A
9:52:49AM JOB, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP THEM DO THAT?
9:52:51AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT FINDING THAT CONNECTION.
9:52:54AM WE'RE DOING THAT SOMEWHAT WITH THE CITY, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT
9:52:59AM THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
9:53:00AM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN TAKE THESE TYPES OF
9:53:04AM PROGRAMS AND WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY AND THE PARTNERS WE
9:53:07AM HAVE TO GET FOLKS ON A CAREER PATH EARLY.
9:53:10AM AND I THINK -- AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, THE SCHOOLS,
9:53:17AM UNFORTUNATELY, THAT HAS KIND OF REGRESSED INSTEAD OF GONE
9:53:20AM FORWARD.
9:53:21AM AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PICK UP THE SLACK
9:53:23AM BECAUSE THAT IS OUR ROLE AS GOVERNMENT.
9:53:26AM >> I AGREE WITH YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THE SCHOOLS HAVE
9:53:28AM BEEN A GREAT PARTNER IN THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE WORKED WITH
9:53:32AM THEM, WITH JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT, WITH THEIR STUDENT CONSULTING
9:53:36AM PROGRAM, AND ACTUALLY JUST HAD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A GROUP
9:53:39AM OF SENIORS WHO AT CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL WHO WERE WORKING
9:53:43AM FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS ON HOW WE ATTRACT YOUNG PEOPLE IN
9:53:48AM THEIR COHORT TO APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
9:53:50AM OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT APPRENTICE PROGRAMS IS A GREAT
9:53:54AM GATEWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS BUT NOT NECESSARILY ATTRACTIVE
9:53:56AM TO ALL YOUNG PEOPLE.
9:53:58AM NOT ALL YOUNG PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
9:54:00AM WE DECIDED TO ASK THE EXPERTS, ASK THEM HOW THEY MIGHT
9:54:03AM ATTRACT THEIR PEERS TO THE PROGRAM.
9:54:06AM WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT AND LOOKING TO UTILIZE
9:54:09AM IT IN QUICK ORDER.
9:54:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
9:54:11AM I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.
9:54:13AM I'M NOT QUITE SURE THE MOTION I'LL MAKE ON THAT, BUT I WOULD
9:54:18AM LOVE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO
9:54:23AM ACTIVELY TARGET YOUTH AS WE FOCUS AS THE NEW BUDGET CYCLE
9:54:27AM COMES AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
9:54:31AM YOUTH, HOW WE CAN TIE THIS ALL TOGETHER.
9:54:33AM I THINK I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT AND FIGURE OUT
9:54:36AM A MOTION AND HOW WE COULD MOVE THIS FORWARD.
9:54:39AM I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:54:42AM ANYONE ELSE TODAY?
9:54:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THOUGHTS.
9:54:50AM NUMBER ONE, NICOLE TRAVIS HAS ASSEMBLED A FANTASTIC TEAM AND
9:54:55AM YOU ARE TWO OF THEM.
9:54:56AM ALIS, ERICA, OTHERS, WHO HAVE THE BIGGER VISION FOR ECONOMIC
9:55:01AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:55:02AM AND WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, USUALLY
9:55:04AM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR TALKING
9:55:06AM ABOUT RECRUITING COMPANIES FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:55:08AM AND EVERYTHING -- THE GOOD NEWS IS EVERYTHING WE JUST TALKED
9:55:11AM ABOUT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EITHER ONE OF
9:55:13AM THOSE.
9:55:13AM THAT JUST SHOWS A BROADER VISION.
9:55:15AM I HOPE THAT WHOEVER THE MAYOR HIRES TO REPLACE NICOLE HAS A
9:55:21AM SIMILAR VISION.
9:55:22AM I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO INTERVIEW THEM AND GIVE A THUMBS UP
9:55:25AM OR THUMBS DOWN BECAUSE WE NEED SOMEBODY WITH A BIG VISION.
9:55:27AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE ARE A LOT OF
9:55:34AM GROUPS THAT WANT TO BE THE CENTER FUNNEL OF ACTIVITY AND
9:55:36AM EVERYTHING FLOWS THROUGH THEM.
9:55:37AM WHAT I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE NONPROFITS IN THE
9:55:40AM COMMUNITY IS THEY DON'T WANT A FUNNEL.
9:55:42AM THEY WANT A COLLABORATIVE MODEL.
9:55:43AM EVERYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS COLLABORATION AND
9:55:48AM PARTNERSHIP.
9:55:48AM EVERYBODY IS WHO SEAT AT THE TABLE.
9:55:50AM NOBODY IS IN THE CENTER.
9:55:52AM EVERYBODY IS WORKING TOGETHER.
9:55:53AM I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO SUCCEED.
9:55:55AM I THINK WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
9:55:56AM AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY GROUPS KNOW THEIR AUDIENCE.
9:56:00AM THEY KNOW THE PEOPLE.
9:56:00AM THEY KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AND THEY KNOW HOW TO
9:56:04AM RECRUIT.
9:56:05AM THEY KNOW WHAT THE TRAINING NEEDS ARE, AND WE SHOULD TRUST
9:56:07AM THEM TO WORK THEM.
9:56:08AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE DOING THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.
9:56:10AM AS WE LOOK FORWARD, I THINK IN THE OTHER SEGMENTS OF
9:56:19AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE NEED TO CONTINUE
9:56:21AM TO LOOK AT THAT.
9:56:22AM BY THE WAY, HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS WITH RICHARDS FROM THE EDC
9:56:26AM AND RON CHRISTALDI.
9:56:30AM RON IS STEPPING UP AS CHAIR TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR.
9:56:33AM PROBABLY HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU ABOUT REFORMS AND
9:56:38AM CHANGES THEY WANT TO MAKE.
9:56:39AM I THINK THAT IS POSITIVE AS WELL.
9:56:41AM LAST THING, JAVIER, MAYBE BOTH OF YOU DO MEASUREMENT, BUT I
9:56:44AM KNOW JAVIER DOES MEASUREMENT.
9:56:46AM I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING, IF YOU GO TO
9:56:50AM TAMPA SCORECARD.COM, THERE IS A LOT OF DATA ON TAMPA
9:56:53AM COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
9:56:55AM THE CITY NOW HAS ITS OWN ECONOMIC DASHBOARD ALSO.
9:57:00AM FLORIDA CHAMBER FOUNDATION, SCORECARD AND OTHERS, REGIONAL
9:57:03AM SCORECARD.
9:57:04AM YOU SEE THAT TAMPA'S NUMBERS ARE NOT VERY GOOD.
9:57:06AM THE MEDIAN INCOME IS HIGH -- SORRY, THE PER CAPITA INCOME IS
9:57:10AM HIGH AND GROWING, BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUTLIERS, WE FOUND
9:57:15AM THAT TAMPA HAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAKING MORE
9:57:19AM THAN $200,000 A YEAR WHICH ARTIFICIALLY RAISES THE PER
9:57:23AM CAPITA INCOME.
9:57:24AM THEN MEDIAN SAME EXTENT SAME THING HAPPENING BECAUSE SO MANY
9:57:29AM RICH PEOPLE MOVE IN.
9:57:30AM ALSO GENTRIFICATION.
9:57:32AM WHERE I'M LEADING IS I THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH USF TO
9:57:37AM CREATE A MODEL.
9:57:38AM I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
9:57:41AM I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, COLLABORATE.
9:57:44AM IT COULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD, ZIP CODE, BUT ALSO
9:57:47AM GENTRIFICATION WHICH COULD THROW THAT OFF.
9:57:49AM YOU COULD CREATE A MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE A CONTROL GROUP,
9:57:57AM SCIENTIFICALLY VALID SAMPLE OF PEOPLE AND PEOPLE YOU ARE
9:58:01AM HELPING AND LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN WAGES OVER TIME.
9:58:05AM BUT I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE THAT WE'RE USING
9:58:07AM THE MONEY CORRECTLY BUT ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS MY
9:58:11AM COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, WE HAVE A DUTY TO THE PUBLIC TO HELP
9:58:13AM THEM EARN MORE IN THE COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF
9:58:16AM LIFE.
9:58:17AM WE'VE DONE A LOT TO SUBSIDIZE REAL ESTATE AND COMPANIES
9:58:21AM MOVING TO THE AREA.
9:58:22AM THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL HAVE A
9:58:25AM HUGE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
9:58:26AM I'D LIKE TO MEASURE IT SO YOU ALL GET CREDIT FOR THE GOOD
9:58:30AM WORK YOU'RE DOING.
9:58:31AM THANK YOU.
9:58:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:58:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU SAY THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE AGAIN?
9:58:36AM >> TPAWORX.COM.
9:58:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT.
9:58:40AM W-O-R-X.
9:58:42AM JUST MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO FIND IT.
9:58:49AM >> THANK YOU.
9:58:49AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:58:52AM >> IF I MAY MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF
9:58:55AM THE EMPLOYER, THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT HAS
9:58:59AM IDENTIFIED 11 AREAS IN WHICH WE SHOULD OR COULD OR ARE
9:59:02AM CURRENTLY INFLUENCING BUSINESS GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
9:59:06AM THERE ARE FIVE ADDITIONAL GAPS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT
9:59:10AM WE ARE WORKING TO LEVERAGE SOME FEDERAL FUNDING SO WE CAN
9:59:14AM PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THOSE VERY TINY BUSINESSES
9:59:18AM AND/OR THOSE MIDDLE-SIZE BUSINESSES FROM SIX TO MAYBE 99
9:59:22AM EMPLOYEES SO THEY CAN GROW.
9:59:24AM THEY CAN PROVIDE MORE EMPLOYMENT SO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
9:59:27AM SKILLS.
9:59:28AM AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE MOST
9:59:33AM VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.
9:59:33AM WE'RE LOOKING AT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS.
9:59:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:59:38AM IF YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN AND WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM,
9:59:41AM PLEASE COME UP.
9:59:42AM YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.
9:59:51AM >> DARYL HYCH.
9:59:55AM I'M SEMI FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS TAKING PLACE AT THE EDC
10:00:00AM BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO THEM BACK IN DECEMBER.
10:00:05AM AND THE REPORT SHE REFERENCED FROM SEPTEMBER, I ACTUALLY
10:00:09AM READ THAT REPORT AND I STARTED ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW
10:00:14AM IS THIS INFORMATION, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK STATED, HOW IS
10:00:17AM THIS INFORMATION DISSEMINATED TO THE COMMUNITIES BEING
10:00:21AM UNDERSERVED?
10:00:22AM I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT A PROGRAM CALLED CERT UP.
10:00:25AM AND CERT UP IS A PROGRAM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ASSISTING
10:00:31AM INDIVIDUALS WITH GETTING VARIOUS CERTIFICATIONS AND
10:00:33AM DIFFERENT THINGS TO HELP THEM SCALE UP IN THE EMPLOYMENT
10:00:37AM SPACE.
10:00:37AM WHAT I BEGAN TO REALIZE, AFTER SEEING THE PLAYERS IN THIS
10:00:42AM SPACE, OF COURSE, RAN THROUGH HCC, DR. ATWATER, AND I BEGAN
10:00:47AM TO REALIZE THAT THIS MESSAGE NEVER MAKES IT TO THE
10:00:51AM COMMUNITY.
10:00:51AM THAT REPORT WAS RAN IN SEPTEMBER.
10:00:55AM I READ TO YOU WHAT CRAIG RICHARDS STAYED ABOUT CERT.
10:01:01AM WHILE THIS HAS LED TO GREATER OPPORTUNITIES AND INCOME FOR
10:01:04AM MANY AREA RESIDENTS, A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR UNDERSERVED
10:01:07AM COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT YET BENEFITED FROM THE INCREASED --
10:01:11AM FROM THIS INCREASE PROSPERITY.
10:01:12AM A LACK OF EDUCATION AND SKILLS OUR EMPLOYERS REQUIRE KEY
10:01:19AM REASONS, BUT OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS PROXIMITY TO GOOD-PAYING
10:01:23AM JOBS PLAY A ROLE AS WELL.
10:01:24AM NOW, HE IS THE HEAD OF THIS PROGRAM.
10:01:27AM IF HE KNOW THAT AND HE JUST SAID IT, AND HE HAS ALL THESE
10:01:33AM THINGS AVAILABLE TO HIM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, HOW IS IT THAT NO
10:01:36AM ONE IN THE COMMUNITY AS I HAVE ASKED, CHAIRMAN OF THE
10:01:40AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
10:01:43AM I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION, WHO KNOWS ABOUT CERT UP?
10:01:46AM NOBODY KNOWS.
10:01:49AM SO THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING RELAYED FOR WHATEVER THE REASON,
10:01:52AM AND, AGAIN, IT ROLLS RIGHT BACK INTO 568 BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE
10:01:57AM CONTINUOUSLY KEEP HEARING ABOUT THESE PEOPLE AND THESE
10:02:00AM ORGANIZATIONS WHO DRIVE THEIR CAR AND THEY PUT IT IN THE
10:02:04AM GARAGE, AND THEY PARK IT IN THE GARAGE AND THEY NEVER BRING
10:02:07AM IT BACK OUT BECAUSE ONCE THEY HAVE ARRIVED HOME, THEY DON'T
10:02:11AM COME BACK OUT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:02:13AM EARLIER, OR LAST WEEK, MS. CONNIE MENTIONED ABOUT PASSION
10:02:19AM AND ANGER.
10:02:21AM SEE, I'M GETTING ANGRY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL THESE
10:02:24AM ORGANIZATIONS THAT SAY AND PLAY AND DO, BUT THIS THING BEEN
10:02:27AM AROUND AND NO ONE HAS HEARD OF THIS CERT UP PROGRAM?
10:02:31AM IT HASN'T MATRICULATED THROUGH THE CIRCLES.
10:02:36AM YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WAS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION WITH
10:02:38AM THE PRESIDENT BY SO MANY PEOPLE KNOWING WHO WE WERE BY THE
10:02:41AM WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:02:43AM YET NO ONE HAS HEARD ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT MY
10:02:46AM FRIEND JUST DISCUSSED.
10:02:48AM I DON'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM IT, BUT WE GOT TO GET THE
10:02:50AM MESSAGE OUT THERE.
10:02:52AM BILLBOARD, I SEE TWEET SIGNS ALL OVER THE DAGGONE CITY.
10:02:55AM THEY ARE AT LEAST MAKING YOU KNOW THEY ARE MAKING CUSTOM
10:02:58AM SUITS.
10:02:58AM GET THE MESSAGE OUT SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
10:03:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:03:02AM YES, MA'AM.
10:03:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:04AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL.
10:03:08AM I'LL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT HE'S SAYING.
10:03:11AM WHEN YOU GIVE THE INFORMATION TO ONE ORGANIZATION, LIKE THE
10:03:13AM YOUNG LADY SAID, SHE GAVE IT TO ABE BROWN PRISON MINISTRY,
10:03:19AM THAT WAS TARGETED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO STAND IN TRANSITIONAL
10:03:23AM HOUSING GETTING OUT OF PRISON WHO THEY HAVE THEIR CONTRACT
10:03:26AM WITH.
10:03:27AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT GET OUT TO JOHN Q WHO IS WALKING
10:03:31AM DOWN THE STREET WHO IS NOT AFFILIATED WITH NOTHING, NOBODY.
10:03:34AM AND WE CAN DO THAT LIKE EBT, WHERE THEY GO AND SIGN UP FOR
10:03:43AM FOOD STAMPS.
10:03:44AM WE CAN FIND PLACES TO PUT THE INFORMATION OUT TO MAKE SURE
10:03:46AM IT GET TO THE PEOPLE.
10:03:47AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD ORGANIZATION.
10:03:49AM THIS IS WHAT HAVE BEEN OUR ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM FOR 20
10:03:55AM YEARS.
10:03:55AM THINGS ARE HAPPENING, BUT WE NEVER KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:03:58AM WE NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF PUTTING THE
10:04:05AM INFORMATION OUT, NOT JUST TO ONE ORGANIZATION, BUT A LOT
10:04:08AM MORE ORGANIZATIONS.
10:04:09AM THANK YOU.
10:04:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:04:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:11AM YES, SIR.
10:04:13AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:04:14AM >> HASSEIN CALDWELL.
10:04:16AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.
10:04:20AM EVERYBODY SAYING THE SAME THING.
10:04:22AM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
10:04:29AM WHAT I WAS SAYING, I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING.
10:04:32AM IT'S LIKE THE SAME THING, BUT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE NOW.
10:04:38AM EVERYBODY SAYING ALMOST THE SAME THING BUT WE HAVE TO COME
10:04:41AM TOGETHER.
10:04:41AM THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO COME UP.
10:04:43AM I HEARD OF THESE PEOPLE BUT I NEVER MET THEM.
10:04:48AM NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING NOW.
10:04:49AM TAKE ME TIME TO ADJUST.
10:04:51AM STUDYING MY WORDS BECAUSE I'M UP HERE NOW, BUT I GOT TO GET
10:04:55AM USED TO IT.
10:04:56AM I WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHEN YOU HEAR CERTAIN THINGS, WANT
10:04:59AM CERTAIN THINGS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE ON FAITH.
10:05:03AM KEEP MAKING YOUR CIRCLE BIGGER AND GOD PUT YOU IN A PLACE
10:05:07AM WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
10:05:08AM ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CONTINUE ON WITH WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON
10:05:12AM AND TALKING ABOUT AND THINGS WORK OUT, ABOUT BUT WE HAVE TO
10:05:15AM COME TOGETHER.
10:05:16AM THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET UP TO SAY AND GET YOUR CARD.
10:05:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:05:22AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
10:05:27AM WHAT I'M HEARING IS REGARDING COMMUNICATION AND GETTING THAT
10:05:32AM MESSAGE OUT THERE, HOW ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY, PER SE,
10:05:37AM LIKE A JOB FAIR, BUT GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING
10:05:40AM SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY MEETING OR WHATEVER TO GET THE
10:05:43AM MESSAGE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE.
10:05:45AM BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.
10:05:47AM I KNOW IT'S OUT THERE DIGITALLY.
10:05:48AM BUT PERHAPS GOING IN AND MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
10:05:51AM ASSOCIATIONS, REACHING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS, JUST
10:05:54AM MAKING IT AS EASILY AND ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY, BUT MAKE
10:05:57AM SURE EVERYBODY GETS THE MESSAGE.
10:06:00AM THE CITY HAS THE WEBSITE.
10:06:02AM WE HAVE CTTV.
10:06:04AM WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS.
10:06:05AM I THINK ONE ON ONE, MEETING WITH FOLKS AND LETTING THEM
10:06:08AM KNOW, HEY, THERE ARE THESE OPPORTUNITIES I THINK WOULD BE
10:06:12AM WISE TO DO THAT.
10:06:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
10:06:15AM AGAIN, I'LL WORK ON A MOTION WITH YOU FOR THIS SO WE GET
10:06:20AM EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT JUST A PLAN JUST TO LET
10:06:25AM US KNOW WHAT YOUR COMMUNICATION PLAN IS, HOW THAT'S GOING TO
10:06:28AM BE DISSEMINATED TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:06:30AM AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THEY REALLY WANT
10:06:34AM SOMETHING THAT COMES TO THEM AND DOESN'T JUST GO THROUGH THE
10:06:38AM NONPROFITS.
10:06:42AM I HAVE TO IMAGINE YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND, BUT WHAT IS
10:06:46AM THAT?
10:06:46AM CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT NOW?
10:06:49AM >> YEAH, I CAN.
10:06:51AM AS IT RELATES TO THE JOBS AND THE CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS,
10:06:55AM CAREER SOURCE TAMPA BAY, THAT IS THE MAIN CONDUIT.
10:06:58AM THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT'S RUN OUT OF THE
10:07:01AM EDC.
10:07:02AM THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE RUN FROM A NUMBER
10:07:04AM OF PEOPLE.
10:07:05AM WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS NOT HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL FOCUS ON THAT
10:07:09AM SPECIFIC PROGRAM NAME BECAUSE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.
10:07:12AM THAT'S THE FUNDING.
10:07:13AM BUT IF THEY COME IN TO THE WORKFORCE BOARD, IF THEY GO INTO
10:07:16AM CAREER SOURCE, OR IF THEY COME IN AND TALK TO US, WHAT
10:07:20AM THEY'LL GET CONNECTED TO IS THE PROGRAM THAT MEETS THEIR
10:07:23AM NEEDS.
10:07:23AM HCC DOES A GREAT JOB OF THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT IF
10:07:27AM PEOPLE TRY TO REMEMBER THE INDIVIDUAL NAMES.
10:07:30AM YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN OR WHAT YOU
10:07:34AM MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY EXPLORING.
10:07:36AM AND THEN THERE ARE TEAMS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE TO HELP AN
10:07:39AM INDIVIDUAL EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND FIND THE FIT THAT'S
10:07:42AM BEST FOR THEM.
10:07:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE
10:07:47AM WE'RE MISSING SOME ORGANIZATIONS.
10:07:49AM MR. HYCH'S ORGANIZATION DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW ABOUT THIS.
10:07:54AM THERE ARE SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS.
10:07:55AM I THINK THE ISSUE IS HOW DO WE REACH EVERY SINGLE ONE WITH
10:07:59AM WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:08:02AM OBVIOUSLY, I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL WILL CONNECT, BUT FROM
10:08:07AM THAT, AGAIN, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO?
10:08:10AM THIS IS THE AGE-OLD QUESTION OF HOW WE REACH PEOPLE.
10:08:13AM SO WORKING WITH --
10:08:16AM >> HOW ABOUT WE DOUBLE BACK WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE
10:08:19AM AND PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO GET THE WORD OUT?
10:08:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
10:08:23AM THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS SAYING.
10:08:25AM WHAT WE'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE YOU ALL AND KELLY CRAFT A MOTION.
10:08:33AM GENERALLY, I DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW OUT A MOTION BECAUSE I
10:08:35AM LIKE TO MAKE IT VERY SPECIFIC.
10:08:37AM MAYBE IF WE COULD WORK ON A QUICK MOTION AND I COULD PRESENT
10:08:40AM THAT NEXT WEEK AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO SEE GOING FORWARD.
10:08:43AM BUT, YES, A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AND A STRATEGY IS EXACTLY
10:08:46AM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
10:08:49AM >> WE'LL REACH OUT TO KELLY.
10:08:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
10:08:53AM WE'LL COME UP WITH THE CORRECT WORDING AND LANGUAGE.
10:08:56AM BUT REALLY KNOWING TODAY, AS PEOPLE LEAVE, KNOWING THAT THE
10:08:59AM GOAL IS A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AND THAT I'LL BE BRINGING A
10:09:02AM MOTION FORWARD NEXT WEEK THAT HAS THE DATES, EXACTLY WHAT WE
10:09:07AM WANT.
10:09:08AM I DO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
10:09:09AM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT, YEAH, OUR NEXT
10:09:17AM BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS HOW DO WE LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT?
10:09:21AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
10:09:23AM WE HAVE MORE TO DO, BUT I KNOW WE'RE ALL UP TO THE
10:09:25AM CHALLENGE.
10:09:26AM >> IT'S BEEN A GREAT TEAM EFFORT.
10:09:28AM GREAT MOMENTUM.
10:09:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
10:09:30AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT NEXT STEP AND BRING IN AS
10:09:33AM MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
10:09:34AM SO THANK YOU.
10:09:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:09:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:38AM WE'LL GO TO ITEMS 3 AND 4.
10:09:40AM THEY TIE IN TOGETHER.
10:09:42AM WE'LL START WITH 3 REGARDING THE MILLION DOLLARS HERE AND
10:09:48AM NATURAL RESOURCES.
10:09:48AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:10:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:09AM WHIT REMER, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER.
10:10:12AM AS YOU MENTIONED, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 3 AND 4
10:10:14AM TOGETHER.
10:10:15AM WE'VE GOT A SLIDE SHOW, IF WE CAN GET THAT GOING.
10:10:18AM I THINK JC WILL KICK IT OFF AND I'LL WRAP UP ON THE TAIL
10:10:22AM END.
10:10:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:22AM ALL RIGHT.
10:10:23AM WE HAVE IT UP.
10:10:24AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:10:25AM GOOD MORNING.
10:10:31AM >>JC HUDGISON: GOOD MORNING.
10:10:31AM JC HUDGISON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, CITY OF TAMPA.
10:10:34AM SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, THERE WERE KIND OF SIX
10:10:41AM DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE MOTION.
10:10:42AM WE KIND OF WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN BASED OFF OF KIND OF THE
10:10:46AM GROUPS DEALING WITH THEM PRIMARILY.
10:10:49AM ITEMS 1, 2, 3, TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT
10:10:52AM MITIGATION TREES.
10:10:53AM TWO, HOW TO INCREASE AND IMPROVE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:10:55AM AND ADDING THE FINE AND PUNISHMENT WILL BE HANDLED BY
10:10:59AM MYSELF.
10:10:59AM AND THEN WHIT WILL TAKE 4, 5, AND 6.
10:11:02AM MITIGATION TREE TRACKING.
10:11:06AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH ACCELA, WHICH IS OUR PERMITTING
10:11:11AM SYSTEM, TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO BETTER TRACK TREE REMOVAL,
10:11:15AM TREE REPLACEMENT.
10:11:16AM RIGHT NOW, THE WAY WE TRACK THEM, IDEALLY ARE STAND-ALONE
10:11:22AM PERMITS.
10:11:22AM SOMEBODY CALLS IN, HEY, THEY WANT TO REMOVE A TREE OR DO
10:11:25AM SOMETHING TO A TREE, THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT WE
10:11:28AM HAD GOOD, SOLID NUMBERS.
10:11:29AM HOWEVER, BLD PERMITS, ANY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE CITY,
10:11:34AM WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALSO ENCOMPASSING THEM THERE.
10:11:37AM WE DO TO AN EXTENT, TRACKING IS THE ISSUE, BECAUSE WE DO
10:11:42AM PROVIDE TREE TABLES AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND TALK
10:11:45AM ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF THE TREES.
10:11:46AM HOWEVER, FOR THE POINT OF TRYING TO CALCULATE THE TREE
10:11:51AM CANOPY, WHERE IT IS, HOW MANY WE'RE LOSING OF CERTAIN TREES,
10:11:54AM IT JUST NEVER WAS REALLY IN ONE CENTRAL LOCATION TO PUT THAT
10:11:57AM INFORMATION TOGETHER.
10:11:58AM SO WE STARTED WORKING PROBABLY ABOUT RIGHT AFTER THE TREE
10:12:01AM CANOPY STUDY CAME OUT TO SAY, HEY, HOW CAN WE BETTER TRACK
10:12:05AM THESE TREES, HOW CAN WE GET THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER THAT
10:12:07AM WE CAN SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC AND FOR US TO HAVE A RUNNING
10:12:10AM TALLY AS PROJECTS ARE BEING COMPLETED.
10:12:12AM SO WE STARTED JANUARY 2024 TO KIND OF PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER,
10:12:17AM AND WE STARTED APRIL 8th OF 2024.
10:12:20AM SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, ANY FUTURE BUILDING PERMITS THAT COME
10:12:24AM IN, WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK THOSE NUMBERS.
10:12:28AM AND SO THAT HELPS US BOTH WAYS.
10:12:30AM THAT HELPS US COMING IN THE DOOR SO WE CAN MAKE SURE
10:12:33AM OBVIOUSLY IT'S COMPLIANT, BUT ALSO A QUICKER PLACE FOR MY
10:12:36AM STAFF WHEN THEY ARE OUT THERE DOING FINALS, HEY, THESE ARE
10:12:40AM THE NUMBER OF TREES SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE.
10:12:42AM SIMPLE COUNTING THE TREES, HEY, WE NEED THIS MANY PROTECTED,
10:12:45AM THESE MANY GRAND.
10:12:47AM WE'RE MAKING SURE THOSE TREES ARE BEING THERE.
10:12:49AM THIS IS KIND OF A SNAPSHOT.
10:12:51AM THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF WILL SEE.
10:12:52AM THIS IS WHAT STAFF WILL INPUT BECAUSE WE WOULD PREFER THE
10:12:56AM STAFF TO DOUBLE CHECK THE NUMBERS AGAINST THE TREE TABLE.
10:12:59AM SO YOU CAN SEE BASED OFF -- WE KIND OF FILLED THEM ALL WITH
10:13:02AM THREES, BUT TO GIVE YOU A TEMPLATE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
10:13:05AM YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE EACH DIFFERENT TYPE OF TREE, WHAT IS
10:13:09AM BEING REMOVED, BEING REPLACED AND BEING CREDITED.
10:13:11AM IDEALLY, WE CAN TRACK ALL OF THOSE PHASES OF THE PROCESS.
10:13:14AM IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO PAY INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND,
10:13:18AM THAT'S ALSO LOCATED IN THE SAME LOCATION.
10:13:19AM WE WANT OUR STAFF NOT TO HAVE TO JUMP BETWEEN THREE OR FOUR
10:13:22AM DIFFERENT PERMITS OR THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT RECORDS TO FIND
10:13:25AM THAT INFORMATION.
10:13:25AM IT'S ALL IN ONE RECORD.
10:13:27AM WHEN WE GET TO OUR FINAL INSPECTION, THIS POPS UP, STAFF
10:13:29AM GOES OUT TO LOOK TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE NUMBERS LINE UP.
10:13:32AM SO THAT HELPS NOT ONLY NATURAL RESOURCES BUT ANY OTHER
10:13:35AM STAFF, IF SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE AND THEY SEE IT, THEY HAVE
10:13:38AM ONE PLACE IN ACCELA TO GO SEE AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION.
10:13:41AM RIGHT NOW, THEY KIND OF HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TREE TABLES
10:13:44AM AND GRAB A PAGE HERE, LANDSCAPING PLAN HERE.
10:13:46AM REVISION HERE.
10:13:47AM SO FOR US, IT WAS INTENTIONAL TO TRY TO PUT IT ALL IN ONE
10:13:50AM PLACE SO IT'S EASY ACCESS.
10:13:51AM TWO, BECAUSE THESE ARE CALLED ASI FIELD, YOU CAN THEN PULL
10:13:57AM THOSE NUMBERS TO TRACK THEM.
10:13:59AM ANY LIFETIME, WE CAN SAY HOW MANY GRAND TREES HAVE BEEN
10:14:03AM REMOVED BASED OFF ALL OUR BLDs, WE CAN GIVE YOU A NUMBER.
10:14:07AM RIGHT NOW, IT IS A LABOR, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
10:14:09AM THROUGH ALL THE TREE TABLES WHICH AREN'T REALLY IN ASI
10:14:12AM FORMAT TO BE ABLE TO PULL THOSE THINGS OUT.
10:14:14AM THE NEW TREE TRACKING PROVIDED WITHIN ACCELA.
10:14:19AM I HAVE SOME OF MY NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF NOT TOO HAPPY WITH
10:14:23AM ME BECAUSE IT IS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF WORK TO EXTRACT THE
10:14:25AM INFORMATION BUT REALLY NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT.
10:14:30AM WE THINK THAT IS SOMETHING TO PROVIDE, WORKING WITH WHIT
10:14:33AM WHERE TO DISPLAY IT AND PUT IT ONLINE SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE
10:14:36AM IT.
10:14:36AM UNDER ACCELA, WE CAN BREAK THOSE THINGS DOWN TO SHOW YOU
10:14:40AM WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE AT.
10:14:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF SOMEBODY IS UNHAPPY WITH YOU, THAT
10:14:46AM MEANS YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
10:14:47AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:14:48AM BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND
10:14:54AM INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE WORKING WITH REGARDING THE TREE TRACKING,
10:14:57AM I THINK THE SOUTH FLORIDA, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, DOING A STUDY
10:14:59AM OF WHERE THE TREES SHOULD BE PLANTED AT.
10:15:04AM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
10:15:05AM NUMBER TWO, IF WE HAVE THAT IN HAND, IT SHOULD NOT BE TOO
10:15:08AM DIFFICULT -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU APPLY TO DO A DEVELOPMENT OR
10:15:12AM ONE BUILDING, WHATEVER, IT TAKES A LONG TIME, PERIOD OF
10:15:18AM TIME, NOT A LONG TIME, PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE YOU GET TO THE
10:15:22AM FINAL BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
10:15:23AM BETWEEN ALL THAT TIME, SHOULD THERE BE A PLAN THAT PUT A
10:15:28AM SHARED BURDEN ON BOTH, THE ONE WHO WANTS TO APPLY AND THE
10:15:31AM CITY WHO WANTS TO RECEIVE BUT ALSO MANAGE A TREE FUND.
10:15:35AM SO AT THE TIME IT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL, IN MY OPINION, THERE
10:15:40AM SHOULD BE AT LEAST A CONCEPTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY
10:15:43AM TREES ARE GOING DOWN AND WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED.
10:15:46AM AND THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE SITE PLAN SO THAT WE KNOW
10:15:51AM ALL OF US AND THE PUBLIC, MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN US,
10:15:53AM UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHERE THE TREES ARE AT.
10:15:56AM THERE SHOULD ALSO BE A TRACKING SYSTEM OF WHERE AND HOW
10:16:00AM THOSE TREES ARE TREATED AFTER THEY ARE PLANTED.
10:16:03AM YOU CAN PLANT ANY TREE YOU WANT, AND IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE
10:16:07AM OF IT, MORE THAN LIKELY, THEY MAY NOT SUCCEED.
10:16:10AM WE CAN'T DEPEND ON NATURE ANYMORE THAT IT'S GOING TO RAIN
10:16:15AM ONLY FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE WAY WE'RE
10:16:20AM TREATING NATURE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:16:22AM JUST THIS YEAR ALONE WE HAD RAIN WHEN WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO
10:16:28AM HAVE RAIN AND WHEN YOU NEED RAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE RAIN.
10:16:31AM I'M PUTTING IT BACK ON YOUR STAFF OF THE JOB THEY ARE DOING
10:16:36AM TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY STAFF, THAT AT THE
10:16:39AM TIME THAT IT COMES BEFORE US, WE SHOULD HAVE AN X-RAY OF
10:16:45AM WHERE THOSE TREES ARE GOING AND WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE
10:16:48AM CARE OF THEM.
10:16:49AM I'M NOT A TREE EXPERT, BUT I'M SURE WHEN YOU PLANT A TREE,
10:16:52AM YOU HAVE TO WATER IT SO MANY DAYS FOR SO MUCH PERIOD OF TIME
10:16:56AM BEFORE IT HAS A CHANCE TO BE HUNDRED PERCENT.
10:16:59AM THERE'S NOTHING IN LIFE THAT IS HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE.
10:17:01AM WHAT WE'RE GOING AFTER, THAT TREE THEN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10:17:10AM MORE THAN LIKELY SUCCEED IN GROWING, OTHERWISE IT WILL HAVE
10:17:16AM THE OPPOSITE EFFECT OF NOT SUCCEEDING AND GROWING AND IT
10:17:20AM WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY AND A WASTED OPPORTUNITY
10:17:23AM THAT WE SHOULD NOT GO THROUGH.
10:17:26AM I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A
10:17:29AM STEP FURTHER AND THAT'S PUT IT TOGETHER.
10:17:31AM SO THAT MAP IS COMPLETED.
10:17:33AM THE APPLICATION IS EITHER APPROVED, NOT APPROVED, AND THAT'S
10:17:37AM HOW IT GOES.
10:17:37AM I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON TREES.
10:17:39AM I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I SEE THAT THE PLAN IS MISSING ONE
10:17:43AM THING.
10:17:43AM AT THE END, WHEN DOES IT HAPPEN AND HOW DOES IT HAPPEN AND
10:17:48AM HOW MAINTAINED?
10:17:48AM IF NOT MAINTAINED, NO WAY THAT TREE IS GOING TO SURVIVE.
10:17:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:17:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE LATER ON 60 OR 90 DAYS, IF
10:17:56AM YOU CAN GIVE US BACK A REPORT ON YOUR CONCEPTUAL IDEAS OF
10:17:59AM HOW YOU WORK IT OUT WITH THE PLANNERS OF THE CITY.
10:18:03AM >> YES, SIR.
10:18:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:18:09AM >>JC HUDGISON: THE NEXT PART IS CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:18:11AM WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES SECTION, ESPECIALLY FOR --
10:18:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
10:18:16AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:18:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: APPRECIATE IT, LIKE AS WE'RE GOING FROM
10:18:19AM SECTION TO SECTION JUST HAVE A BRIEF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND
10:18:23AM COMMENTS.
10:18:23AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE.
10:18:26AM I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
10:18:27AM I KNOW IT WAS AN INTENSIVE LABOR TO PUT ALL THIS ORGANIZING
10:18:34AM TOGETHER.
10:18:34AM I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END, BEFORE
10:18:38AM CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AS YOU'RE CLOSING OUT, YOU'RE
10:18:41AM DOUBLE-CHECKING THAT ALL THE TREES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
10:18:44AM HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM IS -- DO YOU HAVE YOUR PHONE?
10:18:51AM IF YOU COULD GRAB YOUR PHONE AND COME OVER HERE TO THE ELMO.
10:18:54AM ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, THOUGH, IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WHEN
10:19:02AM PEOPLE -- WHEN RESIDENTS BUY THAT NEW HOUSE, THERE ARE TREES
10:19:06AM THAT ARE PLANTED THAT THEY ARE JUST PULLING OUT.
10:19:08AM I HAD TO TELL A NEIGHBOR WHO LITERALLY PULLED THE FULL TREE
10:19:13AM OUT AND PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH, A, IT WAS
10:19:17AM PLANTED POORLY BECAUSE IT WAS STILL IN ITS POT
10:19:20AM CONFIGURATION.
10:19:22AM WHOEVER PLANTED IT DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB AND ALL THE ROOTS
10:19:25AM WERE STILL ROOT-BOUND.
10:19:26AM THAT'S WHY THEY GOT RID OF THE TREE.
10:19:28AM THEY PULLED IT OUT BECAUSE IT WAS ROOT-BOUND.
10:19:30AM THEY PULL IT OUT AND THROW IT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
10:19:33AM YOU SHOULD REALLY TALK TO YOUR DEVELOPER BECAUSE I'M PRETTY
10:19:35AM SURE THAT IS A MITIGATION TREE.
10:19:37AM IF YOU CAN PULL UP MS. CARROLL ANN BENNETT'S MOST RECENT
10:19:42AM E-MAIL TO US THIS MORNING.
10:19:43AM THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
10:19:44AM THEY ARE LITERALLY SELLING THE TREES, THE MITIGATION TREES
10:19:51AM THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN.
10:19:53AM CAN YOU JUST SCROLL?
10:19:54AM YEAH, IT'S KIND OF WILD THE STORIES THAT WE'RE SEEING.
10:20:04AM IS THERE SOMEWHERE I CAN SELL A NEWLY PLANTED OAK TREE THAT
10:20:10AM WE'RE HAVING REMOVED FROM OUR YARD?
10:20:11AM WE DON'T WANT IT BUT THE BUILDERS PUT IT IN.
10:20:15AM IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR THESE PEOPLE TO TAKE IT OUT.
10:20:17AM THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM.
10:20:20AM I REALLY APPRECIATE -- I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB
10:20:24AM WITH THE FIRST STEP OF COLLATING THE INFORMATION.
10:20:27AM BUT THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT?
10:20:30AM HOW DO WE TELL THESE OWNERS THAT IT IS A MITIGATION TREE?
10:20:35AM DO WE ADD A FINE?
10:20:36AM HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THEY KNOW YOU CANNOT TAKE THIS TREE OUT?
10:20:41AM AND IF YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IT BACK.
10:20:44AM HOW CAN WE WATCH THAT?
10:20:48AM HOW CAN WE TARGET THAT?
10:20:50AM THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS ALSO TALKING
10:20:53AM ABOUT, TOO.
10:20:54AM THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE I THINK THE VISUAL ON THAT WAS SO
10:20:58AM BRILLIANT.
10:21:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. FEELEY.
10:21:01AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
10:21:05AM DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
10:21:06AM JUST WANTED TO SAY BRIEFLY, WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR MONTHLY
10:21:09AM MEETING WITH TBBA, THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, LAST
10:21:13AM MONTH AND I WAS IN ATTENDANCE, I BROUGHT THIS UP.
10:21:15AM BECAUSE WE ARE AWARE, MS. BENNETT IS COMMUNICATING WITH US
10:21:18AM AND WE ARE SENDING OUR TEAMS OUT.
10:21:20AM BUT THIS IS A BALANCED RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT?
10:21:23AM THE HOME BUILDERS ALSO HAVE TO BE INFORMING WHEN THEY ARE
10:21:27AM BUILDING THESE NEW HOMES THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A LANDSCAPE
10:21:30AM CODE.
10:21:31AM YOU ARE REQUIRED TWO TREES.
10:21:33AM SOME OF THEM HAVE MORE TREES BECAUSE THEY TOOK OUT OTHER
10:21:36AM TREES AND THEY ARE MITIGATING.
10:21:38AM WE'RE AWARE OF THAT.
10:21:40AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH IT.
10:21:42AM YES, YOU CAN'T JUST SELL.
10:21:45AM WALK UP AND YOUR TREES ARE NOW NEW TREES, I'VE SEEN THE
10:21:50AM Facebook POSTS.
10:21:51AM WE ARE AWARE.
10:21:52AM WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
10:21:53AM I'LL LET JC TALK TO THAT.
10:21:55AM YES, IN WE GO BY, AGAIN, WE'VE SAID TO YOU ALL MANY TIMES,
10:22:00AM THERE ARE 137,000 PARCELS IN THE CITY AND THERE'S ONLY SO
10:22:03AM MANY OF US.
10:22:04AM BY PEOPLE LETTING US KNOW THEY ARE SEEING THAT HAPPEN WE CAN
10:22:07AM REACT TO THAT.
10:22:08AM IF NOT, WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH OUR INSPECTIONS TEAM TO SEE
10:22:11AM ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SO MANY MONTHS AFTER THE C.O. IS
10:22:15AM ISSUED JUST TO RIDE BY AND MAKE SURE THOSE TREES ARE STILL
10:22:18AM THERE.
10:22:20AM I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE
10:22:23AM ALL OF THEM.
10:22:23AM I THINK IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THIS YEAR WE PERMITTED
10:22:27AM 525 NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
10:22:31AM THAT'S 525 THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE NEW TREES OR HAVE RETAINED
10:22:35AM THEIR EXISTING TREES.
10:22:36AM BUT WE ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THEM.
10:22:41AM >>JC HUDGISON: THE SECTION IS 2728422.
10:22:45AM MITIGATION TREES, WE HAVE UP TO SIX MONTHS AFTER THE CO HAS
10:22:48AM BEEN ISSUED TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THOSE MITIGATION TREES
10:22:51AM ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
10:22:52AM WE'RE DOING THAT AND WORKING WITH BRIAN KNOX WITH THE
10:22:57AM PLANNING TO ALSO DEVELOP A HANGER, SO WHEN WE DO THAT FINAL
10:23:03AM INSPECTION, THAT THEY HAVE THAT HANGER, PUT IT ON THE DOOR,
10:23:06AM SO REGARDLESS OF WHO IS AROUND, THEY ARE SAYING, HEY, PLEASE
10:23:09AM BE AWARE, YOU MAY HAVE MITIGATION TREES ON YOUR SITE.
10:23:12AM AND IN CITING THAT SECTION OF THE CODE.
10:23:15AM THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WORKING AT AT THIS POINT.
10:23:19AM WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE OF THOSE, UNFORTUNATELY.
10:23:21AM THAT'S KIND OF THAT BACK PART OF THE ENFORCEMENT.
10:23:24AM BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO START DOING THAT.
10:23:26AM WE HOPE TO HAVE THE HANGERS IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
10:23:29AM BRIAN IS WORKING WITH THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT, MAKE SURE IT
10:23:31AM LOOKS NICE.
10:23:32AM IDEALLY, PART OF THE FINAL INSPECTION, TAKE THE HANGER AND
10:23:35AM THE HANGER GOES ON THE FRONT DOOR TO SAY, HEY, YOU COULD
10:23:38AM POTENTIALLY OR YOU HAVE MITIGATION TREES ON YOUR SITE.
10:23:40AM PLEASE BE AWARE PER THE SECTION OF CODE IN SIX MONTHS, WE
10:23:44AM ARE ALLOWED TO COME BACK TO THE SITE PER THE TREE CODE TO GO
10:23:48AM BACK AND MAKE SURE THE TREES ARE WHERE THEY ARE AND HEALTHY.
10:23:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ON THAT DOOR HANGER, I WOULD ALSO REALLY LOVE
10:23:55AM IT IF YOU INCLUDED THE COST, THE FINE, IF THERE IS A FINE.
10:24:02AM IF THERE ISN'T A FINE, NEED TO CREATE A FINE.
10:24:04AM WHAT IS THE PUSH FOR PEOPLE TO NOT GET RID OF THE TREES?
10:24:09AM AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT BIG, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE
10:24:12AM ARE GOING TO SEE.
10:24:13AM WHEN SOMEONE BUYS A NEW HOUSE, ALL OF THE MAIL THEY GET, ALL
10:24:16AM OF THE EXTRA STUFF, IF YOU TAKE OUT A TREE, YOU COULD HAVE A
10:24:19AM FINE.
10:24:19AM BUT ALSO, I THINK THAT, MS. FEELEY, YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS DONE
10:24:24AM A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH GATHERING GROUPS TOGETHER.
10:24:28AM SO THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO GET TTAG AND THE TBBA AND
10:24:34AM THE REALTORS TOGETHER TO KIND OF FIND A SOLUTION.
10:24:38AM HOW DO WE TELL -- I MEAN, OTHER THAN THESE DOOR HANGERS,
10:24:43AM BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
10:24:43AM IT'S NOT JUST OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
10:24:46AM IT CAN BE A COOPERATIVE, HAND IN HAND WITH BOTH BUILDERS AND
10:24:53AM REALTORS.
10:24:53AM HOW CAN WE USE THEM TO HELP SHARE THAT?
10:24:56AM BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
10:25:00AM WITH, WITH THE NEW HOMEOWNERS, AND THEY KNOW THEM.
10:25:03AM I THINK THAT MAYBE A COLLECTIVE MEETING TOGETHER, TRYING TO
10:25:08AM FIND THE BEST WAY TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT, BECAUSE I
10:25:11AM DON'T THINK BY AND LARGE PEOPLE -- IF THEY DON'T KNOW, DON'T
10:25:18AM JUST PULL THE TREES OUT, WHICH THEY ARE DOING.
10:25:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT, TOO.
10:25:21AM SO JC AND I ACTUALLY MET WITH GTAR THIS WEEK, REPRESENTATIVE
10:25:26AM FROM GTAR THIS WEEK, GREATER TAMPA AREA REALTORS.
10:25:29AM WE ARE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THEM IN THE FALL.
10:25:34AM WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A SESSION TO GO OVER, BECAUSE I THINK
10:25:38AM SOME OF THIS, TOO, CAME UP WITH THE WHOLE ILLEGAL
10:25:41AM CONSTRUCTION ISSUES.
10:25:43AM AND ALSO, UNPERMITTED WORK, WHEN PEOPLE ARE BUYING AND
10:25:46AM SELLING.
10:25:46AM SO WE HAD A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS WEEK WHERE
10:25:51AM WE WILL BE GOING OUT AND DOING A SESSION.
10:25:53AM I THINK THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COUNT IT AS CONTINUING EDUCATION
10:25:56AM TO SHARE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD
10:26:00AM THIS TO THAT AS WELL.
10:26:02AM BUT WE COULD STILL LOOK AT THAT.
10:26:04AM BUT I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE FORUMS.
10:26:07AM WE DO HAVE OUR QUARTERLY ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT JC HEADS
10:26:10AM UP THAT ALSO PROVIDE A FORUM FOR US TO CONTINUE TO
10:26:14AM DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION.
10:26:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:26:18AM I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT STILL ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE
10:26:20AM WE'RE TALKING TO MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS WHERE MAYBE IF WE
10:26:23AM COULD ALL COME TOGETHER AND FIND A WAY -- THE BUILDER IS
10:26:29AM LOOKING AT IT ONE WAY, AND THE HOMEOWNERS GROUP IS LOOKING
10:26:32AM AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, LIKE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY?
10:26:34AM I STILL THINK THERE IS VALUE IN COMING UP WITH A MEETING AND
10:26:38AM COMING UP WITH A PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE HERE
10:26:40AM IS EVERYBODY IS DOING THEIR OWN JOB, BUT NO ONE IS COMING --
10:26:49AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ACTUALLY TEACHING AT THE MAYOR'S
10:26:51AM NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY ON MAY 11, ALSO SATURDAY MORNING,
10:26:54AM ZONING 101 AND 102.
10:26:56AM I'M HAPPY TO INCLUDE THIS IN THAT DIALOGUE AS WELL AS
10:26:59AM ANOTHER FORUM TO GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
10:27:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
10:27:04AM ANYTHING WE CAN DO SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FALL ON STAFF.
10:27:08AM AND I THINK THE MORE EDUCATION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE IN TRYING
10:27:11AM TO GET THE BUY-IN FROM OTHERS, IT'S LESS WORK FOR YOU ALL IN
10:27:16AM THE LONG RUN.
10:27:17AM YOU'RE RIGHT.
10:27:18AM IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY AFTER SIX MONTHS THAT WE'LL BE
10:27:21AM ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE TREE, SO WHAT ELSE
10:27:24AM CAN WE DO?
10:27:24AM THAT'S THE WAY I SEE US PUTTING IN WORK AHEAD OF TIME TO NOT
10:27:29AM HAVE TO DO AS MUCH WORK ON THE BACK END.
10:27:32AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
10:27:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:27:35AM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BEFORE I GO TO
10:27:38AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:27:39AM >> WELL, NOT FOR THAT SECTION.
10:27:41AM STILL HAVE THREE MORE -- TWO MORE SECTIONS.
10:27:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:27:44AM HE'S NOT DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION.
10:27:48AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:27:50AM IMPROVE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:27:51AM >>JC HUDGISON: UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT, I HAVE LEGAL
10:27:55AM DEPARTMENT HERE --
10:27:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED IT UP ON OUR SCREENS AS WELL.
10:28:00AM YES, SIR.
10:28:05AM GO AHEAD.
10:28:06AM >>JC HUDGISON: A LOT OF TIMES WE WERE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO
10:28:08AM ARE SAYING WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THE TREE CUTTERS THAT COME
10:28:12AM IN AND KIND OF CUT TREES AND PRUNE TREES.
10:28:16AM OUR NORMAL STANCE IS, HEY, THIS IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
10:28:19AM THIS IS THE PERSON WHO HAS THE TREE.
10:28:21AM HOWEVER, WE DID GO BACK TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITION YOU SEE
10:28:24AM UNDER 9-2 FOR A VIOLATOR.
10:28:27AM STATES THAT THE VIOLATOR IS A PERSON RESPONSIBLE OR BELIEVED
10:28:28AM TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
10:28:30AM SO THAT'S KIND OF GIVING US A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE
10:28:34AM TO LOOK AT HOW TO ENFORCE SOME OF THAT.
10:28:36AM WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING NOW IS TO MOVE FORWARD TO NOT
10:28:42AM ONLY ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE OWNER OF THE
10:28:45AM PROPERTY, BUT ALSO A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THAT TREE
10:28:48AM COMPANY.
10:28:48AM WE CAN IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE.
10:28:50AM IF THEY HAVE A DUMPSTER OR SOMETHING OR GOT A TRUCK AND WE
10:28:52AM HAVE THAT EVIDENCE AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION,
10:28:55AM WE'RE ISSUING BOTH THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE OWNER AND
10:28:58AM TO THE TREE COMPANY.
10:28:59AM SO THEN BOTH OF THEM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, HAVE TO GO THROUGH
10:29:02AM THEIR PROCESS, COME SEE MAGISTRATE AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY
10:29:05AM ARE GOING TO RESOLVE ALL OF THAT.
10:29:06AM THAT'S ONE DEFINITE THING WE'RE STARTING TO DO NOW.
10:29:12AM UNFORTUNATELY, TREE CUTTERS AREN'T REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED.
10:29:15AM ONCE AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO AFTER SOMEBODY'S
10:29:17AM LICENSE.
10:29:18AM CAN'T REVOKE THEIR LICENSE TO KEEP THEM FROM DOING IT.
10:29:20AM UNFORTUNATELY IT WILL BE A LONGER PROCESS TO TRY TO GET SOME
10:29:23AM OF THE COMPLIANCE THERE.
10:29:24AM AS YOU MENTIONED, IF THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW.
10:29:26AM THEY CUT THE TREE.
10:29:27AM HOMEOWNER PAYS THEM, THEY MOVE ON.
10:29:29AM IDEALLY, TRYING TO BE ABLE TO GO AFTER NOT ONLY THE OWNER,
10:29:34AM BUT THE OWNER AND TREE COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO GET COMPLIANCE
10:29:37AM BETTER.
10:29:38AM FOR US, IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE.
10:29:41AM I THINK I HAVE A PICTURE ON HERE.
10:29:43AM IDEALLY, WE HAVE A DUMPSTER.
10:29:44AM WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN GO AFTER.
10:29:46AM WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF THIS VIOLATION HAPPENING.
10:29:49AM WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:29:50AM IDEALLY, OUR PLAN GOING FORWARD NOW IS FOR ANY FUTURE
10:29:55AM ILLEGAL TREE TRIMMING OR REMOVAL, WE'LL CITE THE PROPERTY
10:29:58AM OWNER AND CITE THE TREE TRIMMING COMPANY IF THEY HAVE THE
10:30:01AM INFORMATION AND WE CAN FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE.
10:30:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:30:05AM I'M THINKING WAY OUT OF THE BOX.
10:30:07AM THE REASON FOR WHAT I'LL SAY NEXT, I'VE HAD TWO INDIVIDUALS
10:30:10AM IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO CALL THE OFFICE AND ASK THIS
10:30:15AM QUESTION.
10:30:15AM I JUST BOUGHT THIS HOUSE.
10:30:17AM AND THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION I'M TALKING ABOUT.
10:30:20AM I JUST BOUGHT THIS HOUSE.
10:30:21AM AND I GOT CITED FOR HAVING A VIOLATION ON THE PROPERTY THAT
10:30:25AM I JUST BOUGHT.
10:30:26AM BUT I DIDN'T DO IT.
10:30:31AM I BOUGHT IT FROM THE SELLER.
10:30:32AM THE SELLER DID IT.
10:30:34AM NOW WHO DO WE GO AFTER?
10:30:36AM THAT IS A LEGAL QUESTION AND WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.
10:30:39AM THE PROBLEM IS, AT THE TIME, AND I'M NOT A LAWYER AND DON'T
10:30:44AM KNOW MUCH ABOUT LAW.
10:30:47AM I ADMIT TO THAT.
10:30:48AM HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, AT THE TIME THAT YOU BUY THE
10:30:54AM HOUSE, DOES ANYBODY TELL YOU IF THERE ARE ANY VIOLATIONS ON
10:30:57AM THAT HOUSE?
10:30:58AM IS IT THE SELLER'S RESPONSIBILITY OR WHOEVER SOLD THE HOUSE
10:31:02AM TO YOU, THE RESPONSIBILITY OR IS IT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS
10:31:06AM BUYER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER LEGAL OR ILLEGAL
10:31:11AM THINGS IN YOUR DEED AT THE COURTHOUSE, THAT THE CITY
10:31:13AM RECORDED THESE THINGS SO THAT WHEN YOU DO CHECK, YOU FIND
10:31:16AM OUT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THERE AND YOU CAN GET OUT OF THE
10:31:19AM DEAL.
10:31:19AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:31:20AM IT IS A VAST QUESTION, BUT BECOMING, IF I HAD ONE AND I HAVE
10:31:24AM TWO, THAT MEANS MORE THAN LIKELY I'M GOING TO HAVE MORE.
10:31:26AM SO HOW DO WE STOP THAT NOW?
10:31:29AM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A MASSIVE THING OF FOUR, FIVE, SIX,
10:31:33AM SEVEN, EIGHT, TEN PEOPLE.
10:31:34AM WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:31:36AM IF IT WASN'T THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DOING THE JOB, I WOULDN'T
10:31:39AM HAVE HAD ANY, NONE.
10:31:41AM BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IN MY OWN LITTLE MIND THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE
10:31:45AM GETTING SMARTER AND LOOKING AT ZILLOW AND LOOKING AT A HOUSE
10:31:49AM THAT WAS TEN YEARS OLD, AND NOW YOU SEE A DIFFERENT HOUSE ON
10:31:53AM THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY.
10:31:58AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
10:32:00AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:32:01AM YOU ALREADY MADE A MOTION FOR THAT AND IT'S COMING UP I
10:32:04AM BELIEVE IN JUNE.
10:32:05AM I'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT AT THE TIME.
10:32:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
10:32:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:32:11AM GO AHEAD.
10:32:13AM >>JC HUDGISON: SO THAT'S THE SECTION FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:32:18AM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE FINE SECTION?
10:32:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
10:32:22AM GO AHEAD.
10:32:23AM >>JC HUDGISON: SO WE TALKED TO -- WE'VE HEARD FROM
10:32:28AM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS ADDING A FINE OR ADDING A
10:32:32AM MAX FINE TO THE PROCESS.
10:32:35AM UNFORTUNATELY, BASED OFF OF A CITATION, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE
10:32:40AM A PROVISION TO TAMPA CODE SECTION -- I'LL READ IT.
10:32:45AM SECTION 23.5 DOES NOT PROVIDE A PROVISION TO ISSUE A
10:32:47AM CITATION FOR REMOVING A TREE WITHOUT A PERMIT.
10:32:50AM THAT'S WHY IT KIND OF MOVES TO CHAPTER 27 AND THAT
10:32:52AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:32:53AM WE WOULD NOT SUGGEST MOVING TO A CITATION BECAUSE THE
10:32:57AM MAXIMUM FINE YOU CAN DO IS $500.
10:33:00AM THEREFORE, THAT IS A ONE-TIME OFFENSE.
10:33:02AM THEY DO IT ONE TIME AND IT'S DONE.
10:33:04AM SO, THEREFORE, IF THEY REMOVE MULTIPLE TREES, THAT WOULD BE
10:33:07AM A ONE-TIME FINE AND THAT'S IT.
10:33:10AM PERSONALLY, IN LOOKING AT HOW WE WANT TO DO, HOW WE
10:33:15AM CURRENTLY DO ADMINISTRATIVE FINES, WE CAN DESIGNATE A TREE
10:33:19AM AS IRREPARABLE OR IRREVERSIBLE AND CHARGE UP TO 15,000.
10:33:25AM I WOULDN'T WANT TO CHOOSE TO GO TO A CITATION METHOD WHERE
10:33:28AM ONLY CHARGING 500 AND ONE SHOT AND COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
10:33:31AM THEY DO IT AND SAY, HEY, I'LL PAY $500 TO CUT THE TREE DOWN
10:33:35AM AS OPPOSED TO US DEALING WITH IT ON $15,000 PER VIOLATION.
10:33:39AM SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.
10:33:40AM THEREFORE THOSE THINGS CAN BUILD UP FOR BIGGER VIOLATIONS.
10:33:43AM FOR US, WE WOULD NOT SUGGEST CHANGING THAT.
10:33:47AM BASED OFF OF THE WAY THE TREE CODE IS WRITTEN, THAT'S WHY WE
10:33:50AM HAVE THE 15,000.
10:33:51AM IF WE GO TO THE CITATION PROCESS, IT'S MORE OF A CIVIL
10:33:55AM CRIMINAL SITUATION.
10:33:56AM THEY COME AND TICKET, PAY THE TICKET AND MOVE ON.
10:33:58AM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP KIND OF THE PROCESS AS WE HAVE IT
10:34:01AM FOR THE $15,000 PER VIOLATION TO BE USED BECAUSE THE
10:34:04AM MAGISTRATE, NOW, WE CAN TAKE IT TO THE MAGISTRATE.
10:34:07AM THEY CAN GO UP TO 15,000, BUT THAT IS ON THE MAGISTRATE TO
10:34:10AM ACTUALLY MAKE THE CALL OF WHAT THAT FINE WOULD BE.
10:34:13AM THEY CAN CHARGE UP TO $15,000 PER VIOLATION.
10:34:16AM WE CAN SUGGEST A MAX FINE, BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE
10:34:20AM MAGISTRATE TO DO THAT.
10:34:21AM IF DO YOU THE TICKET, $500, ONE SHOT, THAT'S IT.
10:34:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:34:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN YOU SAY FOR A VIOLATION, WOULD EACH
10:34:30AM TREE BE A VIOLATION?
10:34:31AM >>JC HUDGISON: IT IS UP TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
10:34:33AM COULD SAY 15,000 FOR THE CITE.
10:34:35AM 15,000 PER TREE.
10:34:38AM WE MAKE THE CASE, WE TELL THEM WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO
10:34:41AM DO, BUT IT'S UP TO THE MAGISTRATE TO THEN MAKE THAT
10:34:44AM JUDGMENT.
10:34:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN --
10:34:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME LINES, THANK YOU FOR
10:34:48AM BRINGING THAT UP.
10:34:49AM HAVE WE DONE A CURSORY REVIEW ON HOW MANY LANDS, WE THINK WE
10:34:56AM HAVE MORE THAN TEN TREES ON OR FIVE TREES ON?
10:34:59AM BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN GET A SCOPE TO FIND OUT WHICH IS BEST
10:35:02AM TO USE, 500 OR 15,000?
10:35:07AM >>JC HUDGISON: I'D HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU.
10:35:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD SUGGEST AGAIN THAT SOMEHOW, IF
10:35:12AM IT'S POSSIBLE, FIND OUT HOW MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE
10:35:15AM HAVE THAT HAVE MORE THAN FIVE TREES OR FOUR TREES BECAUSE
10:35:19AM NOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR MAY SOUND GREAT, BUT AT THE END,
10:35:22AM SOMEBODY MAY HAVE 30 TREES, $15,000, THAT IS A BARGAIN.
10:35:27AM THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IT'S NOT A BARGAIN.
10:35:29AM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
10:35:30AM BUT MAYBE YOU CAN FIND OUT FOR US.
10:35:32AM IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
10:35:36AM I KNOW I ASK THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
10:35:39AM >>JC HUDGISON: I'LL GET WITH BRIAN KNOX AND SEE.
10:35:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:49AM >>JC HUDGISON: OUR ACTION ITEM FOR THAT, WE WOULDN'T
10:35:51AM RECOMMEND ANY CHANGE IN THAT PROCESS JUST BASED OFF THE
10:35:56AM VARIATION OF THE CITATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THE WAY
10:35:58AM IT IS.
10:35:58AM ANOTHER PART OF THAT MITIGATION IS YOU PAY INTO THE TREE
10:36:01AM TRUST FUND, SO, THEREFORE, IF IT IS A REGULAR CITATION, IT
10:36:03AM IS A CRIMINAL CITATION AND WE DON'T GET THAT $500 BACK AT
10:36:07AM ALL.
10:36:07AM AT LEAST UNDER 15,000 AND MAGISTRATE IT CAN BE A MOTION TO
10:36:11AM PAY INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND WHICH CAN THEN LEAD DIRECTLY TO
10:36:15AM TREE MITIGATION.
10:36:16AM I BELIEVE THAT'S MY SECTION.
10:36:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:36:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE INITIAL -- I DON'T
10:36:25AM EVEN THINK WE HAVE TO GO BACK.
10:36:28AM I APPRECIATE THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT FINES FOR CUTTING THE
10:36:33AM TREES.
10:36:33AM I MIGHT HAVE SEEN IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HERE.
10:36:37AM WHAT CAN WE DO -- AND MAYBE IT'S TOO PRELIMINARY.
10:36:42AM MAYBE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE SESSION.
10:36:45AM WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROVIDE FINES OR FEES OR SOME TYPE OF
10:36:53AM PUNISHMENT TO PEOPLE WHO TAKE OUT THE MITIGATION TREES
10:36:56AM BEFORE THEY EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT'S
10:36:58AM CUT DOWN.
10:36:59AM RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN -- SO THE ISSUE WE JUST
10:37:05AM SAW, PEOPLE PULLING OUT THE TREES AND SELLING THEM, WE HAVE
10:37:09AM NO -- WHAT IS OUR CURRENT RECOURSE FOR THAT?
10:37:12AM >>JC HUDGISON: VIOLATION OF 284.
10:37:14AM WE COULD GO BACK AND THEN CITE THEM FOR ILLEGAL TREE REMOVAL
10:37:18AM AND THEN -- BECAUSE IT IS A VIOLATION.
10:37:21AM WE GO BACK AND CONFIRM, HEY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAVE
10:37:24AM THREE MITIGATION TREES.
10:37:26AM PULLED TWO OUT TO TRY TO SELL ON Facebook.
10:37:28AM WE GO BACK AND SEE THOSE AREN'T THERE, THEN WE CAN CITE YOU
10:37:31AM FOR ILLEGAL TREE REMOVAL AND THAT STARTS YOUR PROCESS TO THE
10:37:34AM MAGISTRATE.
10:37:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT MAKES SENSE.
10:37:36AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PUT ON THE DOOR HANGER.
10:37:38AM YOU COULD BE FINED UP TO $15,000 PER TREE YOU REMOVE.
10:37:42AM YOU PUT THAT ON A DOOR HANGER, THAT'S SERIOUS.
10:37:48AM THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
10:37:48AM IT GETS PEOPLE AT LEAST INTERESTED, OH, GOSH, WHAT DO I NEED
10:37:53AM TO DO?
10:37:53AM WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?
10:37:54AM AGAIN, AS WE PUT A GROUP TOGETHER TO FIGURE IT OUT TO REALLY
10:37:59AM HELP PEOPLE.
10:37:59AM THANK YOU.
10:38:00AM I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I
10:38:02AM NEEDED TO KNOW AND WHAT I NEED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, IF YOU
10:38:05AM TAKE OUT EVEN A MITIGATION TREE, THAT'S $15,000 A TREE, UP
10:38:09AM TO $15,000 A TREE.
10:38:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT.
10:38:13AM BECAUSE $500, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT $15,000 IS SCARY.
10:38:18AM IT'S MUCH SCARIER.
10:38:19AM I THINK THAT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE, UP TO 15,000, PEOPLE WILL
10:38:22AM LOOK AT IT AND THINK TWICE AND THREE TIMES AND FOUR TIMES.
10:38:27AM YES, SIR.
10:38:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:38:34AM WHIT REMER, SUSTAINABILITY RESILIENCE OFFICER.
10:38:38AM BOYS, HOW DO YOU THINK DAD DID?
10:38:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS WONDERING WHO WAS IN THE BACK.
10:38:44AM GOOD.
10:38:45AM >>WHIT REMER: THE LAST THREE PARTS OF THIS MOTION, AND THIS
10:38:50AM IS ALSO ITEM 4 WAS KEEPING TRACK OF THE MILLION DOLLAR USDA
10:38:55AM GRANT.
10:38:55AM CREATION OF A LARGER CITYWIDE TREE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND
10:38:59AM INCENTIVIZING LIVE OAKS.
10:39:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS S AND R?
10:39:06AM >>WHIT REMER: SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE.
10:39:08AM KEEPING TRACK OF THE MILLION DOLLAR USDA GRANT, THIS WAS
10:39:14AM ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL I BELIEVE LAST WEEK.
10:39:18AM THIS GRANT, WE APPLIED FOR $27 MILLION FOR THIS GRANT.
10:39:23AM WE RECEIVED A MILLION DOLLARS.
10:39:24AM IT'S A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
10:39:29AM THE FUNDS UNDER THIS GRANT ARE VERY FLEXIBLE.
10:39:36AM BUT THE PRIMARY THING I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT ONE
10:39:40AM OF THE STIPULATIONS WITH THIS PARTICULAR GRANT FUND WAS THAT
10:39:45AM IF THE RECEIVING ENTITY WANTED TO AVOID A COST SHARE MATCH,
10:39:51AM THOSE FUNDS NEEDED TO BE SPENT IN SPECIFIC CENSUS TRACTS.
10:39:57AM JUSTICE 40 TRACTS.
10:39:59AM LARGER BIDEN ADMINISTRATION INITIATIVE TO SPEND 40% OF
10:40:01AM FEDERAL FUNDS IN DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME AREAS.
10:40:05AM THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, HONESTLY, JUST FOR ADMINISTRATIVE
10:40:08AM PURPOSES AND, FRANKLY, TO ADDRESS INEQUALITIES THAT WE SEE
10:40:12AM IN THESE CENSUS TRACTS, REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS AND HONE IN
10:40:15AM AND SPEND THIS MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT IN THOSE CENSUS TRACTS.
10:40:18AM SO THAT KIND OF LIMITED THE GRANDEUR IDEAS THAT WE HAD IN
10:40:23AM THE LARGER $27 MILLION GRANT.
10:40:27AM HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE BEST VALUE
10:40:32AM FOR THIS MILLION DOLLARS.
10:40:33AM WE JUST COMPLETED THE URBAN FOREST CANOPY ANALYSIS.
10:40:39AM SO WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF WHERE WE HAVE LOST CANOPY
10:40:43AM OR WHERE WE HAD NO CANOPY OR LOW CANOPY TO BEGIN WITH.
10:40:48AM WE'VE TAKEN THAT DATA AND WE HAVE OVERLAID THAT WITH THE
10:40:53AM JUSTICE 40 TRACTS AND AREAS WHERE WE KNOW VIA SATELLITE AND
10:40:58AM SURFACE LAND TEMPERATURE ARE HOT NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:41:02AM AND WE'VE TAKEN THESE THREE DATA POINTS AND COMBINED THEM
10:41:07AM WITH SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT WAS CONDUCTED AS PART OF THE
10:41:11AM URBAN FOREST CANOPY ANALYSIS BY THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
10:41:13AM FLORIDA WHO WE ASKED TO CONTINUE TO HELP US IDENTIFY
10:41:17AM STRATEGIC PLANTING AREAS IN THESE CENSUS TRACTS.
10:41:19AM HERE ARE THE CENSUS TRACTS WITH THE HIGH HEAT, LOW CANOPY,
10:41:26AM AND OUR JUSTICE 40 TRACTS.
10:41:28AM AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BELT ACROSS THE CITY
10:41:32AM STRETCHING FROM DREW PARK, KIND OF WEST TAMPA AIRPORT, DOWN
10:41:35AM THROUGH NORTH OF KENNEDY AND UP INTO YBOR, DOWNTOWN, AND
10:41:40AM INTO THE WESTERN PART OF EAST TAMPA.
10:41:42AM HERE ARE MORE VISUALIZATIONS.
10:41:47AM WE'RE DOING ALL THIS USING SOPHISTICATED SATELLITE AND GIS
10:41:50AM DATA.
10:41:51AM SO WE ARE THEN OVERLAYING THAT INFORMATION WITH AREAS OF
10:41:57AM RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
10:41:58AM THESE PARTICULAR FUNDS CAN BE USED ON PRIVATE OR PUBLIC
10:42:02AM PROPERTY.
10:42:02AM WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH OF THOSE, BUT
10:42:06AM PRIMARILY WE WILL BE FOCUSED ON PUBLIC RIGHTS-OF-WAY FOR
10:42:11AM THIS GRANT.
10:42:12AM AND TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MEETING SEVERAL OF THE GOALS THAT
10:42:16AM WE KNOW AS CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION WANT TO MEET,
10:42:19AM AND THAT'S PROVIDING SHADE ALONG LOW-STRESS NETWORKS, ALONG
10:42:24AM BIKE CORRIDORS, ALONG HEAVILY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFICKED
10:42:27AM CORRIDORS.
10:42:28AM WE NOW OVERLAID THAT WITH OUR MOBILITY NETWORK.
10:42:32AM WE'RE FINDING THESE POCKETS, THESE PARCELS OR WHAT ARE
10:42:35AM CALLED IN GIS POLYGONS THAT ARE -- SEEM LIKE THEY ARE GOOD
10:42:42AM SPOTS TO PLANT TREES.
10:42:43AM I SAY SEEM WITH GREAT EMPHASIS BECAUSE THE FIRST DESKTOP
10:42:48AM EXERCISE WE DID, WE THOUGHT WE IDENTIFIED SOME REALLY GREAT
10:42:51AM STREETS IN MacFARLANE PARK AND GOT OUR TEAM TO GO OUT
10:42:54AM THERE AND START WALKING THE STREETS.
10:42:56AM LO AND BEHOLD, THE GIS LAYERS DIDN'T REALLY TELL US THE FULL
10:43:00AM STORY OF WHAT ACTUALLY WE WERE SEEING ON THE GROUND.
10:43:04AM I CAN TELL YOU, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE, WE COVER A
10:43:08AM LOT OF ISSUES.
10:43:09AM PLANTING TREES IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT IS THE HARDEST THING
10:43:12AM THAT I AM DOING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
10:43:14AM IT IS THE HARDEST THING.
10:43:16AM AND PLANTING LIVE OAK TREES IN PARTICULAR BECOMES
10:43:20AM EXCEPTIONALLY MORE DIFFICULT.
10:43:22AM BECAUSE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, THE
10:43:27AM RIGHT-OF-WAY TEAM, THE FORESTERS, TECO, THE INFRASTRUCTURE
10:43:31AM TEAM, THEY ALL HAVE RULES THAT SAY WHERE WE CAN PUT A TREE.
10:43:36AM THE CANOPY AS IT EXISTS NOW WOULD NEVER EXIST AS IT DOES NOW
10:43:41AM IF WE HAD TO FOLLOW THESE SAME TYPES OF PROTOCOLS.
10:43:45AM THERE ARE PIPES UNDERGROUND.
10:43:46AM THERE ARE TRANSMISSION LINES OVERHEAD.
10:43:50AM THERE ARE SIDEWALKS.
10:43:51AM THERE ARE CURBS.
10:43:53AM THERE ARE ADA ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES.
10:43:55AM IT IS REALLY A PRECISE EXERCISE IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
10:44:04AM WHERE THESE TREES CAN GO.
10:44:06AM HERE AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CORRIDORS IN MACFARLANE
10:44:12AM PARK THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ON THE GIS EXERCISE.
10:44:15AM AND THIS SLIDE SHOW HASN'T BEEN UPDATED TO SHOW THE
10:44:18AM REAL-TIME STREET VIEW WHEN WE GOT OUT THERE.
10:44:21AM BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH USF.
10:44:24AM WE WILL SPEND THIS MILLION DOLLARS USING THE BEST DATA
10:44:28AM AVAILABLE, TALKING ALSO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS,
10:44:31AM TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY GROUPS AND ENSURING THAT WE DO
10:44:35AM THE BEST WE CAN.
10:44:36AM I CAN TELL YOU EVERY OTHER CITY IS ALSO GOING THROUGH THIS
10:44:39AM EXERCISE.
10:44:39AM THERE WAS A BIG ARTICLE THIS WEEK ABOUT HOW MIAMI IS DEALING
10:44:42AM WITH THIS.
10:44:43AM IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING.
10:44:44AM BUT I PROMISE YOU, YOU HAVE THE FULL WEIGHT AND THE SUPPORT
10:44:47AM OF CITY STAFF AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TRYING TO WORK
10:44:50AM THIS OUT.
10:44:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THAT SECTION.
10:44:58AM AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STOPPED BEFORE BECAUSE NUMBER
10:45:01AM THREE ENDED AND WE REALLY NEEDED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
10:45:04AM THAT BEFORE WE MOVED TO ITEM FOUR.
10:45:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE COMBINED THE TWO TOGETHER.
10:45:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, BUT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO WANT TO
10:45:12AM SPEAK TWICE, I'M PRETTY SURE.
10:45:14AM I GUESS ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IS WHO DECIDES WHERE THESE
10:45:24AM TREES GO?
10:45:25AM A GOOD EXAMPLE IS I TALKED TO YOU ON TUESDAY ABOUT A TREE
10:45:32AM PLANTING IN HENRY AND OLA PARK.
10:45:34AM THE NEIGHBORS WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS TREE PLANTING, AND
10:45:38AM THEN PEOPLE GOT OUT THERE ON WEDNESDAY WHEN THE TREES WERE
10:45:41AM SUPPOSED TO BE PLANTED AND THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE OAKS AND
10:45:47AM THE REST CRAPE MYRTLES.
10:45:49AM JUST WALKING THROUGH THE PARK, I GOT THREE COMPLAINTS FROM
10:45:52AM NEIGHBORS BECAUSE WHY ARE THEY PLANTING CRAPE MYRTLES.
10:45:54AM WE DON'T WANT CRAPE MYRTLES.
10:45:56AM WE WANT SHADE TREES.
10:45:57AM THIS WAS IN AN AREA OF THE PARK THAT WE WERE TOLD WE
10:45:59AM COULDN'T PUT A DOG PARK BECAUSE THERE ARE NO WIRES ABOVE, NO
10:46:05AM INFRASTRUCTURE BELOW.
10:46:06AM IT'S JUST OPEN SPACE AND IT'S ALONG OLA AVENUE WHICH IS
10:46:09AM GOING TO BE A BIKEWAY.
10:46:11AM WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE PLANTED OAK TREES?
10:46:14AM THAT'S KIND OF AN ISSUE OF HOW, IF WE'RE PRIORITIZING SHADE
10:46:20AM ALONG CORRIDORS THAT ACTUALLY CAN TAKE THE SHADE, WHAT DO WE
10:46:25AM DO?
10:46:25AM OR HOW ARE WE NOT CONNECTING SOMEHOW WITH THAT?
10:46:30AM HOW IS THE COMMUNICATION GETTING --
10:46:35AM >>WHIT REMER: SURE.
10:46:36AM I THINK DEPENDING ON WHERE THE TREE IS BEING PLANTED AND WHO
10:46:39AM THE SPONSORING DEPARTMENT IS, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION
10:46:43AM OF THE TYPE OF TREE SELECTION.
10:46:46AM WE HAVE A TREE MATRIX FOR THE CITY THAT LISTS ALL THE TYPES
10:46:48AM OF TREES THAT WE ENCOURAGE PLANTING HERE.
10:46:52AM THERE ARE ALSO SHADE TREES.
10:46:53AM THERE ARE UNDERSTORY TREES.
10:46:56AM THE MANTRA THAT LEADS THE DAY HERE IS RIGHT TREE, RIGHT
10:47:00AM PLACE.
10:47:01AM SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLANTING, I KNOW THIS WAS A KEEP
10:47:05AM TAMPA BAY BEAUTIFUL SPONSORED PLANTING.
10:47:08AM BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE CITY PARK, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS
10:47:11AM WOULD HAVE HAD PROBABLY THE GREATEST SAY IN TREE TYPOLOGY
10:47:15AM AND SELECTION.
10:47:16AM KAYLA, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT PARTICULAR
10:47:20AM PROJECT?
10:47:21AM >> KAYLA, CITY OF TAMPA STAFF.
10:47:23AM FOR THAT SPECIFIC PLANTING IT WAS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS I
10:47:27AM BELIEVE WHO DREW UP THE PLANS IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION
10:47:30AM DEPARTMENT.
10:47:31AM THEY WERE THE ONES WHO DECIDED ON TREES.
10:47:32AM JUST AS WHIT SAID, I KNOW THEY TRIED TO BALANCE
10:47:36AM BIODIVERSITY, ALSO HAVING DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREES AND THEN
10:47:40AM THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
10:47:42AM BEYOND THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION.
10:47:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANKS.
10:47:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. REMER, HOW MANY SLIDES DO YOU HAVE
10:47:49AM LEFT IN YOUR PRESENTATION?
10:47:53AM >>WHIT REMER: IT LOOKS LIKE THREE SUBSTANTIVE SLIDES.
10:48:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:48:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REFERENCE TO LANDSCAPE, RUNG A BELL.
10:48:07AM ON BAYSHORE, THEY PLANT CLUMP PALM TREES INSTEAD OF SHADE
10:48:12AM TREES.
10:48:12AM HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN THAT -- IN THESE WIDE-OPEN SPACES THAT
10:48:19AM WE'RE PLANTING CLUMP PALM TREES AND NOT SHADE TREES?
10:48:21AM I DON'T GET IT.
10:48:24AM >>WHIT REMER: I THINK THAT TREE SELECTION, AGAIN, PROBABLY
10:48:27AM IS DETERMINED USING A VARIETY OF FACTORS.
10:48:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW DO WE TRUMP THAT?
10:48:32AM >>WHIT REMER: WELL, THIS IS PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE.
10:48:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- THE PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE -- HOW DO WE
10:48:40AM QUESTION THAT PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE?
10:48:43AM >>WHIT REMER: I SUPPOSE WE COULD HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
10:48:48AM LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, WHILE THEY ARE CHOOSING THE TREES ON
10:48:52AM BAYSHORE, I IMAGINE IT IS A COMBINATION OF SPACE,
10:48:55AM MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND WHAT RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY ALONG
10:49:01AM BAYSHORE EITHER HAVE ASKED FOR OR ACCUSTOMED TO.
10:49:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS.
10:49:07AM THEY DON'T ASK.
10:49:08AM WE WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND SEE THINGS HAPPENING.
10:49:11AM NOBODY ASKS US.
10:49:13AM >>WHIT REMER: WE PUSH THE BOUNDARIES ALL THE TIME ASKING
10:49:16AM HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO GET MORE TREES IN.
10:49:18AM SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND A BIGGER ADVOCATE FOR PUTTING
10:49:21AM NEW TREES IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY SHADE TREES.
10:49:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS INTERESTING, YOU SAID THE RIGHT
10:49:26AM TREE, RIGHT PLACE.
10:49:28AM SEEMS LIKE CLUMP PALM TREES IS NOT THE RIGHT TREE FOR ANY
10:49:32AM PLACE.
10:49:32AM IT'S NOT A HABITAT.
10:49:34AM NOT A SHADE TREE.
10:49:37AM >>WHIT REMER: IT'S ACTUALLY NOT EVEN A TREE.
10:49:39AM IT COULD BE A COMBINATION BETWEEN THE AVAILABLE SPACE THAT'S
10:49:43AM BOTH THE CANOPY AND THE ROOT SYSTEM.
10:49:45AM IT COULD BE REPLACING A TREE THAT WAS IN KIND AND LIKE.
10:49:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THEY HAD ACCESS TO THESE THINGS.
10:49:57AM >>WHIT REMER: IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A SPECIFIC TREE EXAMPLE, I
10:49:59AM CAN GO FIGURE OUT WHY THAT TREE WAS SELECTED.
10:50:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BETWEEN SWANN AND BREVARD ON BAYSHORE.
10:50:03AM >>WHIT REMER: I'M SURE STAFF IS WATCHING AND WILL TAKE NOTE
10:50:06AM OF THAT AND GET YOU AN ANSWER.
10:50:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:50:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU WANT TO STOP HERE AND GO TO
10:50:15AM PUBLIC COMMENT AND KICK IT OFF AGAIN?
10:50:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS WE CAN FINISH THIS AND DO PUBLIC
10:50:22AM COMMENT ON THE FIRST PART AND THEN THE SECOND PART.
10:50:25AM THE PUBLIC WILL WANT TO TALK ABOUT TREES.
10:50:29AM TWO SEPARATE ITEMS.
10:50:31AM BUT HE'S ALMOST DONE.
10:50:33AM IF I COULD GET A RESPONSE FOR WHY THEY PUT CRAPE MYRTLES
10:50:39AM INSTEAD OF SHADE TREES ALONG OLA, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:50:41AM BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY WANTED PLACES TO PICNIC OR
10:50:46AM READ A BOOK UNDER A TREE.
10:50:49AM CRAPE MYRTLES AREN'T GOING TO PROVIDE THAT.
10:50:51AM >>WHIT REMER: WE CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER.
10:50:53AM THE NEXT PART OF THE MOTION WAS A REQUEST TO LOOK AT
10:51:02AM CREATING A LARGER TREE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR LOW INCOME
10:51:07AM RESIDENTS.
10:51:07AM PART OF THIS MOTION MIGHT HAVE BEEN PROMPTED BY A PILOT
10:51:12AM PROGRAM THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA INSTITUTED WHEREBY RESIDENTS
10:51:19AM WERE REIMBURSED UP TO $2500 FOR MAINTENANCE, TREE
10:51:23AM MAINTENANCE THAT OCCURRED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
10:51:26AM THAT PROGRAM WAS OVERSUBSCRIBED VERY, VERY QUICKLY, BOTH IN
10:51:31AM TERMS OF INTEREST AND THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THAT PROGRAM.
10:51:37AM SHOWS AN INTEREST.
10:51:38AM IT'S A GOOD THING.
10:51:39AM THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN PAUSED.
10:51:40AM IT'S NO LONGER ACCEPTING NEW APPLICANTS.
10:51:42AM THE ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT AND BURDEN OF THE PROGRAM I
10:51:45AM THINK BECAME VERY CHALLENGING TO MANAGE.
10:51:48AM THE CRA ISN'T REALLY SET UP TO MANAGE THOSE TYPES OF
10:51:51AM INDIVIDUAL GRANTS AT THE SCALE AND THE VOLUME THAT THEY
10:51:55AM RECEIVED.
10:51:55AM RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR CONTEXT, OUR CITY MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS
10:52:01AM BUDGETED AT $2.3 MILLION.
10:52:04AM THAT PROGRAM HAS INDICATED THAT TO BE ON A MORE PROACTIVE
10:52:10AM PRUNING SCHEDULE AND MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE OF FIVE YEARS,
10:52:18AM WHICH IS KIND OF BEST PRACTICE, THEIR BUDGET WOULD NEED TO
10:52:20AM BE BETWEEN 4.5 TO ALMOST $10 MILLION.
10:52:22AM RIGHT NOW, THE 16 FOLKS THAT WORK IN THAT DEPARTMENT SPEND
10:52:27AM ABOUT HALF OF THEIR TIME RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY WORK
10:52:31AM ORDERS, HELPING REDUCE SIGNIFICANT AND IMMEDIATE LIABILITIES
10:52:35AM TO THE CITY.
10:52:36AM THAT COULD BE BRANCHES ON SIDEWALKS, ON CARS, IN PARKS.
10:52:42AM THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING EMERGENCY WORK ORDERS.
10:52:45AM WHEN THEY ARE NOT DOING EMERGENCY WORK ORDERS, THEY ARE
10:52:48AM TRYING TO DO PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE.
10:52:51AM ALL THAT TO SAY THE CITY RIGHT NOW DOESN'T RECOMMEND
10:52:55AM EXPANDING OR STARTING A NEW LOW INCOME MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
10:52:59AM GIVEN THE INCREDIBLE BURDEN THAT OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT
10:53:02AM HAS JUST FOR THE CITY'S TREES ON CITY RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
10:53:05AM THE FINAL THING, INCENTIVIZE LIVE OAK PLANTINGS.
10:53:14AM AGAIN HERE, RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE.
10:53:16AM I'M TOLD IN AN IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCE TO HAVE A LIVE OAK PLANTED
10:53:20AM YOU NEED A HUNDRED FEET OF CLEARANCE IN EVERY DIRECTION.
10:53:23AM I CHALLENGE YOU, GO FIND A HUNDRED FEET OF CLEARANCE IN ANY
10:53:28AM DIRECTION ON A CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD
10:53:32AM PLACE TO PLANT AN OAK TREE.
10:53:34AM I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO FIND SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THESE RULES
10:53:37AM AND GET CREATIVE.
10:53:39AM THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN PLANT TREES IN THESE SPECIALTY
10:53:43AM TREE BOXES THAT WILL HELP DIRECT ROOT GROWTH IN CERTAIN
10:53:49AM DIRECTIONS.
10:53:51AM AGAIN, THE LIVE OAKS THAT EXIST HERE, EXIST HERE BECAUSE OF
10:53:56AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:53:56AM I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF PARADOXICAL IN TODAY'S WORLD, BUT IF
10:54:00AM YOU LOOK AT PICTURES OF SOUTH TAMPA FROM A HUNDRED YEARS
10:54:03AM AGO, IT WAS MOSTLY SLASH PINE AND PALM.
10:54:07AM A LOT OF THESE SINGLE-FAMILY RANCH HOMES THAT HAVE A LAUREL
10:54:10AM OAK PLANTED RIGHT IN THE FRONT OR RIGHT IN THE BACK, THEY
10:54:12AM WERE PROBABLY PLANTED THERE POSTWAR BY THE FAMILY.
10:54:16AM THEY WERE ALL EXCITED TO DIG A TREE AND PUT IT RIGHT IN
10:54:18AM FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
10:54:20AM AND THAT'S BEEN GREAT FOR THE LAST 70 YEARS, BUT WE'RE AT A
10:54:23AM POINT IN OUR TREE CANOPY WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON REGENERATION
10:54:26AM AND WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO FIND THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT
10:54:29AM THOSE TREES.
10:54:30AM I CAN TELL YOU JUST BASED ON SOME ANECDOTAL AND REAL
10:54:33AM EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGH OUR GIVEAWAYS AND THROUGH
10:54:36AM THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM, LIVE OAKS CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF
10:54:44AM THE LEAST POPULAR TREES TO PLANT.
10:54:45AM I THINK WE ALL KNOW THE MAINTENANCE BURDEN ON THOSE CAN BE
10:54:49AM VERY EXPENSIVE AND CAN HAVE BIG IMPACTS ON YOUR INSURANCE
10:54:52AM RATES IF THE TREES HANG OVER YOUR ROOFS.
10:54:55AM THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'VE HEARD IN
10:54:58AM ADDITION TO THE POLLEN AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, PARKING
10:55:01AM SPACES, A LOT OF REASONS WHY THE BIG SHADE TREES AREN'T
10:55:04AM DESIRABLE.
10:55:05AM AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC TO FIND WAYS
10:55:08AM TO SHOW THEM THE BENEFITS OF THE BIG SHADE TREES.
10:55:11AM THE STORMWATER BENEFITS.
10:55:13AM THE CARBON SEQUESTRATION, HEALTHY AIR, AESTHETICS, ALL THOSE
10:55:19AM THINGS WE KNOW.
10:55:20AM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS PROCREATING THOUSANDS OF
10:55:24AM LIVE OAKS.
10:55:25AM WE WILL CONTINUE TO PLANT SHADE TREES EVERY SINGLE PLACE
10:55:29AM THAT A SHADE TREE IS APPROPRIATE.
10:55:31AM OTHER THAN THAT, WE HOPE TO ALSO CONTINUE TO DIVERSIFY THE
10:55:36AM CANOPY AND BRING IN -- THERE ARE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF TREES
10:55:39AM ON THE TREE MATRIX.
10:55:41AM SO JUST FOCUSING ON LIVE OAKS IS IMPORTANT, BUT DOESN'T
10:55:45AM PAINT A FULL PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE DIVERSE CANOPY WITH THE
10:55:48AM PORT BEING HERE, INVASIVE SPECIES CAN BE INTRODUCED.
10:55:55AM IT IS LIKELY IN ALL CITIES THAT HAVE A KIND OF MONOLITHIC
10:55:59AM CANOPY THAT AT SOME POINT, LOSE A PORTION OF THE CANOPY.
10:56:04AM WE REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE TO DIVERSIFY THE CANOPY AS WELL.
10:56:07AM I JUST THOUGHT I'D TOUCH REAL QUICK ON THE 30,000 TREE
10:56:11AM STRATEGY.
10:56:11AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ANNOUNCED A YEAR AGO.
10:56:15AM WE NEED TO BE DOING ABOUT 5,000 TREES A YEAR.
10:56:18AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING ABOUT 2500.
10:56:21AM IT'S REALLY BUILDING NEW MUSCLE AND PUTTING NEW CONTRACTS IN
10:56:25AM PLACE, GETTING NEW STAFF IN PLACE.
10:56:29AM FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS OR SO, TREE-MENDOUS HAS BEEN REALLY
10:56:33AM BEEN THE ONLY RIGHT-OF-WAY PLANTING PROGRAM THAT THE CITY
10:56:36AM HAS SPONSORED.
10:56:37AM WE DO A GREAT JOB PLANTING IN OUR CITY PARKS AND WITH THE
10:56:40AM GREEN TEAM, WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT.
10:56:42AM BUT WE ARE TRYING TO INSTITUTE ENTIRELY NEW PLANTING
10:56:46AM PROGRAMS, WHETHER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THROUGH THE
10:56:48AM TREE GIVEAWAY, THE USDA GRANT.
10:56:51AM WE'VE GOT TO UNLOCK THE POTENTIAL TO PLANT THESE NEW TREES.
10:56:55AM AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE COMPETING WITH $20 MILLION FLOATING
10:56:59AM AROUND OTHER CITIES IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY WHO ARE FIGHTING
10:57:02AM FOR TREES, FROM THE TREE FARM.
10:57:04AM INVENTORY IS ALSO COMING UP IN BOTH SHORT SUPPLY AND WITH
10:57:09AM PRICE TAGS THREE TO FOUR TIMES THAN WHAT WE SAW IN PREVIOUS
10:57:14AM YEARS.
10:57:14AM AGAIN, THE 30,000 TREE STRATEGY, WE THINK IT'S BOLD BUT
10:57:18AM ACHIEVABLE.
10:57:19AM IT HAS NICE ALLITERATION WITH THE 30% OPEN AND TREE SPACE --
10:57:27AM EXCUSE ME, OPEN AND NATURAL SPACES INITIATIVES THAT MANY
10:57:32AM ENVIRONMENTAL AND CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS HAVE PUSHED.
10:57:35AM AND, OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THE BIOLOGICAL AND HEALTH
10:57:40AM THRESHOLD FOR A HEALTHY TREE CANOPY IS 30%.
10:57:43AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
10:57:44AM SO WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT
10:57:47AM DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD.
10:57:48AM THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
10:57:50AM HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
10:57:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
10:57:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW CLOSELY DO YOU WORK WITH MOBILITY IN
10:57:55AM CREATING THE STREETSCAPES TO LANDSCAPE MEDIANS, FOR COOLING?
10:58:02AM IS THERE -- DESIGNING AND REPAVING, MAYBE FIND SPACES IN
10:58:08AM MEDIANS OR IN THE AREAS, MAYBE PROTECTING BIKE LANES WITH
10:58:12AM LANDSCAPING?
10:58:13AM >>WHIT REMER: GREAT QUESTION.
10:58:15AM CRITICAL NEED FOR MORE INTERDEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION.
10:58:18AM MOBILITY I THINK IS OPEN TO INCORPORATING LANDSCAPING INTO
10:58:25AM PLANS.
10:58:25AM I THINK FOR A LOT OF PROJECTS, LANDSCAPING IS KIND OF THE
10:58:27AM LAST THING IN THE BUDGET.
10:58:29AM SOMETIMES IT GETS CUT.
10:58:32AM ADD IRRIGATION ON TOP OF THAT -- IRRIGATION CAN BE TWICE AS
10:58:35AM EXPENSIVE AS THE ACTUAL LANDSCAPING ITSELF.
10:58:38AM THAT'S A DEPARTMENT AS THEY CONTINUE TO DO STREET
10:58:48AM RENOVATIONS AND REDOS, WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK FOR THE
10:58:51AM OPPORTUNITIES.
10:58:51AM SOUTH HOWARD FUND RELIEF PROJECT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
10:58:55AM THAT.
10:58:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
10:58:57AM SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT COULD BE
10:59:00AM PROACTIVE AND MAYBE REACHING OUT TO MOBILITY AS THEY SEE
10:59:05AM MAYBE OPPORTUNITIES, IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS,
10:59:07AM TO WORK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DESIGN PHASES OF THESE
10:59:10AM PROJECTS TO INCORPORATE LANDSCAPING OR DO YOU THINK IT WOULD
10:59:12AM BE REVERSE, MOBILITY REACHING OUT TO YOU ALL?
10:59:15AM >>WHIT REMER: I THINK BOTH WOULD BE GREAT.
10:59:17AM LOVE FOR THEM TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ME AND SAY WE
10:59:21AM HAVE A PROJECT, WOULD LIKE TREES.
10:59:22AM CONVERSELY, IF I SEE PROJECTS KIND OF COMING THROUGH THE
10:59:25AM SYSTEM, I ALWAYS REACH OUT TO THEM AND OFFER ASSISTANCE AND
10:59:29AM MONEY.
10:59:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DON'T WE OFF LINE FIGURE OUT A WAY OF
10:59:33AM WORKING WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE COME UP WITH
10:59:35AM A PROCEDURE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A
10:59:39AM GOOD IDEA.
10:59:39AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A LOT OF MOBILITY PROJECTS IN THE
10:59:42AM CITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT COORDINATION AND TAKE
10:59:45AM THIS INTO ACCOUNT.
10:59:47AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO
10:59:49AM INTEGRATE THE TWO DEPARTMENTS TO LOOK FOR THESE KIND OF
10:59:52AM OPPORTUNITIES.
10:59:52AM >>WHIT REMER: YES, SIR.
10:59:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:59:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAKE THAT A MOTION
10:59:57AM BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.
11:00:00AM RIGHT NOW WE ARE PLANTING GRASS THAT NEEDS TO BE MOWED.
11:00:03AM THAT NEEDS TO BE -- MY POLLINATOR GARDEN IS GORGEOUS AND
11:00:07AM REQUIRES NO MAINTENANCE.
11:00:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S TAKE IT, MAYBE A LITTLE PREMATURE.
11:00:15AM MAYBE GET THE STRUCTURE TOGETHER AND COME BACK WITH A
11:00:18AM MOTION.
11:00:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:00:20AM I'D LIKE IT TO COME BACK BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE
11:00:22AM INTERESTING.
11:00:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL TAKE AN IOU ON THAT TO FOLLOW
11:00:26AM THROUGH.
11:00:26AM TIM, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, MAKE SURE I DO THAT.
11:00:29AM >>WHIT REMER: AS PART OF OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, THE MAYOR
11:00:32AM ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER SAYING EVERY CIP PROJECT,
11:00:36AM EVERYTHING WE BUILD NEEDS TO LOOK BACK AT OUR RESILIENCE
11:00:39AM PLAN AND CLIMATE PLAN AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE THE URBAN
11:00:43AM CANOPY AND PLANTING TREES IS TOP OF THE LIST IN THOSE PLANS.
11:00:48AM THEY ARE UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE -- THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO
11:00:54AM FOLLOW THAT.
11:00:54AM I CONTINUE TO WORK BOTH ON A PROFESSIONAL BASIS WITH THE
11:00:59AM DEPARTMENTS TO INCORPORATE THOSE PRACTICES.
11:01:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:01:02AM GOOD PRESENTATION.
11:01:02AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:01:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY POINT WAS NOT JUST THE TREES BUT
11:01:05AM EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE PUTTING UNDER THE TREES, BECAUSE THAT
11:01:08AM IS A BIG EXPENSE FOR US RIGHT NOW IS ALL THESE CONTRACTS TO
11:01:12AM MOW.
11:01:12AM AND WE COULD DO BETTER.
11:01:14AM BUT TO GO BACK TO MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, YOU SAY THAT THE
11:01:20AM MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS EXPENSIVE AND UNWIELDING.
11:01:23AM I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:01:25AM BUT THEN HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE PLANTING LIVE OAKS?
11:01:28AM WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT MAINTENANCE.
11:01:30AM SO I THINK THAT'S OUR BALANCE IS TO FIND A WAY TO
11:01:35AM RECONFIGURE THE PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE.
11:01:38AM BUT I DON'T THINK THAT GETTING RID OF THE PROGRAM IS
11:01:40AM SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AFFORD AS A CITY.
11:01:43AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A COST TO IT.
11:01:45AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TREE COMPANIES WERE GOING AT 250 -- OR
11:01:51AM $2500.
11:01:52AM THEY WERE DOING THE MAX FOR EVEN A LITTLE TREE TRIM, BUT
11:01:55AM THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM SO THAT'S NOT
11:01:57AM THE WAY IT'S DONE.
11:02:00AM THERE HAS TO BE -- HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO IT, I JUST THINK IT
11:02:03AM DESERVES ANOTHER LOOK.
11:02:05AM IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANTING TREES IN THESE JUSTICE 40
11:02:11AM TRACTS, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO HELP PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT WHY
11:02:14AM PLANTING THE TREES IS IMPORTANT BUT HOW DO WE HELP THEM
11:02:17AM MAINTAIN IT FOR FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT?
11:02:20AM AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT WORRYING ABOUT TODAY'S TREES THAT WE'RE
11:02:23AM PLANTING.
11:02:24AM THOSE AREN'T THE ISSUES.
11:02:25AM IT'S THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE.
11:02:27AM AND THAT NEED IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY AS WE PLANT.
11:02:30AM THE NEED, AS YOU SAID, FOR THESE LAUREL OAKS, ESPECIALLY AS
11:02:33AM THEY REACH THEIR LIFE SPAN AND FALL ON PEOPLE'S HOUSES, IF
11:02:37AM THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX THAT OR TRYING TO GET THE TREE DOWN
11:02:41AM BEFORE IT FALLS ON YOUR HOUSE, I DO BELIEVE AGAIN THAT IS
11:02:44AM SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY SHOULD BE HELPING CITIZENS.
11:02:50AM THIS GOES ALONG WITH KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.
11:02:53AM SO IT'S LARGER THAN JUST TREES.
11:02:56AM IT GOES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.
11:02:59AM SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE FIND A WAY TO LOOK AGAIN AT HOW WE
11:03:05AM CAN WORK ON THAT PROGRAM, IF IT'S MORE FUNDING, THEN THAT'S
11:03:08AM SOMETHING WE ASK FOR IN THE NEXT BUDGET.
11:03:10AM IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS ITERATION DIDN'T WORK OUT, BUT WHAT
11:03:17AM IS A NEW ITERATION THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH?
11:03:20AM >>WHIT REMER: PERHAPS A SOLUTION TO KIND OF GET THIS OFF THE
11:03:25AM GROUND AGAIN WOULD BE MAYBE TO SEE THROUGH THE OWNER
11:03:30AM OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE ALREADY ON-SITE AND
11:03:33AM DOING WORK, IF WE COULD LOOK AT MAINTENANCE OPPORTUNITIES
11:03:36AM THERE.
11:03:37AM AGAIN, I WOULD CAUTION ABOUT SETTING UP A STAND-ALONE,
11:03:42AM LOW-INCOME MAINTENANCE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW JUST GIVEN THE
11:03:44AM BALANCE OF CITY BUDGET NEEDS AND ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN ON
11:03:48AM THAT.
11:03:48AM BUT IF WE ARE ALREADY OUT THERE DOING LIFE SAFETY UPGRADES
11:03:52AM TO THE HOUSE, THE FRONT PORCH HAS A HOLE OR OTHER ELIGIBLE
11:03:58AM ACTIVITIES THAT THE OWNER OCCUPIED PROGRAM HAS AND TREE LIMB
11:04:00AM HANGING OVER THE ROOF, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD
11:04:03AM SUPPORT WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
11:04:05AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.
11:04:07AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:04:08AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
11:04:09AM TO AUGMENT THE QUESTION AND WHIT'S COMMENTS, I HAD SPARKED A
11:04:13AM THING WITH NICOLE TO LOOK AT THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING FOR
11:04:15AM CRA FOR ROOFING.
11:04:17AM MAYBE I CAN LOOK AT THE SAME THING WITH JOB ORDER
11:04:20AM CONTRACTING THROUGH THE CRA AND OTHER THINGS FOR THE TREE
11:04:23AM ASPECT.
11:04:24AM THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL TAKE BACK AND TRY AND WORK WITH THE
11:04:27AM TEAM ON.
11:04:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT REALLY DOES --
11:04:30AM THE OLDER TREES, THAT'S IT.
11:04:32AM PEOPLE CAN'T STAY IN THEIR HOMES IF THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT
11:04:36AM THAT TREE FALLING ON IT BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES A HUGE ISSUE
11:04:39AM FOR US.
11:04:40AM THEN THAT BECOMES HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED REHAB OF FIXING A ROOF
11:04:43AM AND FIXING THE AIR-CONDITIONING SYSTEM.
11:04:46AM IF THERE IS A WAY, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:04:50AM I THINK HONESTLY JUST FINDING A WAY TO STOP FOLKS FROM
11:04:57AM BILLING FOR THE HIGHEST COST WHEN IT'S NOT A HIGHEST COST
11:05:00AM ISSUE IS REALLY THE ISSUE.
11:05:01AM I THINK WE COULD FIX THAT.
11:05:02AM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:05:04AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE OTHER THING WITH THE JOB ORDER
11:05:06AM CONTRACTING, IT LENDS ITSELF TO A LOT OF EQUAL BUSINESS
11:05:09AM OPPORTUNITY POSITIONS TOO.
11:05:11AM IT COULD BE A WIN-WIN IF WE WORK THROUGH THIS AS WE'RE
11:05:15AM NAVIGATING FOR THE OTHER ELEMENTS.
11:05:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:05:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:05:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID
11:05:21AM ABOUT THE CRA MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
11:05:24AM MAYBE WE SHOULD BRING THIS BACK UP AT THE CRA.
11:05:26AM I THINK OF THE CRA AS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
11:05:31AM BY LAW, IT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
11:05:33AM WE HAVE AN OUTSOURCE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY AND FOR THAT,
11:05:36AM THE CITY PROVIDES IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE PAY THE CITY,
11:05:42AM PROVIDES PURCHASING SERVICES AND LEGAL SERVICES FOR FREE.
11:05:46AM BUT IF THE CRA WAS A SEPARATE ENTITY, IT WOULD PAY FOR THOSE
11:05:50AM SERVICES.
11:05:51AM AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THINK ABOUT WHAT THE CRA HAD ON,
11:05:57AM IF STAND-ALONE ENTITY, HOW WOULD WE HANDLE THIS?
11:06:01AM AND IF THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR AN ADDITIONAL
11:06:05AM LEVEL OF OUTSOURCE FOR PURCHASING OR SOMETHING, IT SEEMS
11:06:08AM LIKE IT WOULD BE WORTH IT.
11:06:09AM I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS MORE IN THE CRA.
11:06:12AM I DON'T THINK THE CRA SHOULD BE LIMITED BY THE CITY'S
11:06:15AM CAPACITY ON THINGS.
11:06:17AM IT SHOULD BE A FASTER, NIMBLE ORGANIZATION.
11:06:19AM BUT ALSO, FROM A CUSTOMER POINT OF VIEW, YOU HEAR THAT
11:06:24AM ALMOST EVERY WEEK WE HAVE FOLKS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO
11:06:28AM PROVIDE SERVICES, ESPECIALLY TO EAST TAMPA AND OTHER AREAS.
11:06:33AM I'VE HEARD MORE COMPLIMENTS AND THANKS ABOUT THAT PROGRAM
11:06:37AM THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE DONE IN EAST TAMPA BECAUSE IT
11:06:40AM TOUCHES A LOT OF PEOPLE.
11:06:43AM ALSO, IT PUTS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, IT PUTS PEOPLE'S HOUSES
11:06:47AM AT RISK, CAUSES ALL KINDS OF OTHER PROBLEMS.
11:06:49AM THE OTHER THING, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THEY CUT, IT SHOULD
11:06:52AM BE A ONCE IN FIVE YEARS SITUATION OR MAYBE ONCE IN TEN YEARS
11:06:56AM THING.
11:06:57AM BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT IN CRA.
11:07:00AM JUST SOME QUICK NOTES.
11:07:02AM SIMILAR TO THE HOUSING GOAL OF 9,000 OR 10,000 HOMES,
11:07:06AM WHATEVER IT IS, I DON'T REALLY LIKE HAVING A NUMBER LIKE
11:07:08AM THAT OF 30,000 TREES.
11:07:10AM IT'S GREAT FOR MARKETING PURPOSES BUT THE DOWNSIDE OF IT THE
11:07:15AM TIMES SOMEBODY WILL COME BACK, OH, DID YOU REALLY DO THIS?
11:07:18AM ARE YOU TELLING THE TRUTH?
11:07:19AM I WOULD RATHER TAKE, IF YOU GO TO THE LAST BULLET POINT,
11:07:24AM WHATEVER THE TREE COVER IS NOW, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?
11:07:28AM >>WHIT REMER: 30%.
11:07:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S OUR GOAL?
11:07:33AM >>WHIT REMER: THAT'S WHAT THE TREE COVER IS NOW.
11:07:35AM IT'S REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO EQUATE NEW TREE PLANTINGS
11:07:38AM WITH ADDITIONAL CANOPY COVER.
11:07:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT TREES AND WE'RE
11:07:46AM TRYING TO -- I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION PROBABLY WON'T CHANGE
11:07:50AM IT, BUT I DON'T LIKE THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE AFFECTING THE
11:07:54AM TREE CANOPY, JUST LIKE WHEN TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC
11:07:56AM DEVELOPMENT, TALK ABOUT MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, REAL GOAL
11:08:00AM THAT HAS A LOT OF INPUTS THAT REALLY AFFECTS PEOPLE.
11:08:04AM THE TREE CANOPY IS THE OUTCOME GOAL.
11:08:07AM OUTPUT IS THE TREE.
11:08:08AM RATHER US FOCUS ON OUTCOMES.
11:08:10AM NEXT, 275.
11:08:15AM YOU KNOW I TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT HAVING LIVED IN SINGAPORE.
11:08:20AM GARDEN CITY, GREEN CITY.
11:08:22AM FOUNDING PRIME MINISTER PERSONALLY PICKED OUT TREES AND
11:08:26AM BRUSH TO PUT IN.
11:08:27AM I THINK IN THESE RANKINGS OF TREES, WE ROTATE BETWEEN NUMBER
11:08:31AM ONE AND NUMBER TWO WITH SINGAPORE.
11:08:34AM RECENTLY WE'RE NUMBER ONE EVEN.
11:08:36AM FROM THE AIRPORT TO DOWNTOWN SINGAPORE, THE THING YOU NOTICE
11:08:41AM IS THAT THE ENTIRE HIGHWAY IS COVERED WITH TREE CANOPY.
11:08:45AM IT IS THE FIRST IMPRESSION EVERYBODY HAS.
11:08:47AM WHEN WE HAD THE PRIME MINISTER OF SINGAPORE HERE ABOUT 20
11:08:49AM YEARS AGO, WE HAD TO TALK TO HIM, DISTRACT HIM AS WE TOOK
11:08:53AM HIM DOWN 275.
11:08:55AM I KNOW WE ARE LIMITED BY WHAT F.D.O.T. WOULD ALLOW.
11:08:58AM ST. PETE UNDER MAYOR FISCHER PLANTED A BUNCH OF TREES, NOT
11:09:00AM OAK TREES, BUT PLANTED A LOT OF TREES IN THE MEDIAN, TEN
11:09:03AM YEARS LATER, RIPPED THEM OUT.
11:09:05AM I WISH WE COULD FIND A WAY AT LEAST WITH PART OF OUR
11:09:09AM INTERSTATE, TO PUT TREES THAT WILL CREATE SHADE AND CANOPY
11:09:13AM BECAUSE THAT HAS A HUGE BRANDING EFFECT ON THE CITY.
11:09:16AM ALSO CALM PEOPLE DOWN.
11:09:18AM IT LOWERS THE TEMPERATURE AS PEOPLE ARE SITTING IN CARS.
11:09:21AM I WISH WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AT SOME POINT.
11:09:24AM I WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS, BUT THE
11:09:27AM ONE LINK TO ALL OF THEM IS WE NEED MORE PUBLIC EDUCATION.
11:09:30AM WE NEED A WHOLE CAMPAIGN AROUND THIS.
11:09:32AM MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
11:09:34AM WE NEED TO FOR SURE TALK ABOUT THE FINES.
11:09:36AM I LIKE THE MESSAGE UP TO $15,000 FINE.
11:09:39AM SOME PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL, THAT'S JUST THE COST OF BUSINESS
11:09:41AM AND SOME DEVELOPERS HAVE DONE THAT.
11:09:45AM BUT FOR MOST PEOPLE, $15,000 IS A PRETTY BIG THREAT.
11:09:49AM THE OTHER THING THAT IS NOT CLEAR AS A HOMEOWNER MYSELF, IF
11:09:52AM YOU WANT TO TEAR OUT A TREE -- I HAVE A TREE IN MY YARD THAT
11:09:56AM PEOPLE SAY IS A CHUNK TREE.
11:10:00AM I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IN THE CITY TO CALL.
11:10:01AM WE NEED TO PUBLISH AN 800 NUMBER.
11:10:01AM WE NEED TO OFFER THE FREE TREES.
11:10:01AM WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PLACEMENT.
11:10:02AM IN 1976 PEOPLE PLANTED TREES UNDERNEATH POWERS LINES IN NEW
11:10:07AM SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
11:10:08AM ON MY STREET, THEY PLANTED TREES IN A WAY THAT BREAKS UP
11:10:12AM STREETS.
11:10:12AM IN GULFVIEW, THEY PLANTED TREES IN SMALL MEDIANS, RIPPING UP
11:10:15AM ROADS AND SIDEWALKS.
11:10:16AM NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE TYPE OF TREE.
11:10:18AM LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, THE DNA OF THE TREE, THINKING WAY
11:10:22AM IN THE FUTURE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT BIODIVERSITY OF THE DNA.
11:10:25AM ARE WE BRINGING IN DIFFERENT LIVE OAKS FROM DIFFERENT AREAS
11:10:28AM OR IS IT OKAY TO USE THE SAME SOURCE BASE?
11:10:33AM >>WHIT REMER: YEAH, A LOT THERE.
11:10:36AM MAYBE GOING BACKWARDS.
11:10:37AM WHEN WE WERE WALKING AROUND MacFARLANE PARK, SOME EXPERTS
11:10:42AM TALKED ABOUT HOW LIVE OAKS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SPECIES
11:10:45AM NOW AND HAVE ADAPTED TO THE SPECIFIC CLIMATE.
11:10:47AM BOTH THROUGH THE SPECIES, WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE
11:10:52AM BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY.
11:10:53AM I DO THINK THAT PROBABLY SOME OF THE AGRICULTURAL WORK GOING
11:10:58AM ON AT UF IFAS IDENTIFYING NEW LIVE OAKS THAT ARE THE BEST
11:11:04AM FOR THIS PART OF FLORIDA.
11:11:06AM I'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:11:07AM THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
11:11:09AM WE DO HAVE TWO CAMPAIGNS RELATED TO BOTH THE TREES FOR
11:11:11AM TAMPA.
11:11:12AM 30,000 TREES GOAL.
11:11:13AM AND THEN I THINK IT'S CALL BEFORE YOU SAW.
11:11:18AM IS THAT IT?
11:11:18AM KNOW THE LAW BEFORE YOU SAW.
11:11:21AM THAT IS ANOTHER CAMPAIGN WE'VE GOT.
11:11:23AM THERE ARE PUBLIC CAMPAIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BOTH ON THE
11:11:26AM ILLEGAL CUTTING SIDE AND ON THE REPLANTING, REGROWTH SIDE.
11:11:31AM 275 INTERSTATES AND TREES, YEAH, TYPICALLY DON'T MIX, BUT
11:11:36AM MAYBE SOME OF THOSE SMALLER ARTERIALS AND COLLECTOR ROADS,
11:11:39AM DEFINITELY, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S POINT, LOOKING AT
11:11:42AM OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH BOTH MOBILITY AND F.D.O.T.
11:11:46AM AGAIN, SOME OF THIS IS GETTING IN THE PROJECT EARLY, PUTTING
11:11:49AM THE IRRIGATION IN TO THE MEDIAN.
11:11:52AM I KNOW THAT'S THEN A HOLDUP ON MANY OF THE PROJECTS.
11:11:57AM FOR THE TREES THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN RIGHT NOW, I AM REALLY
11:12:00AM GOING TO PUSH HARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BUBBLE IRRIGATION ON
11:12:04AM ALL THE NEW RIGHT-OF-WAY TREES WE PUT IN BECAUSE GETTING
11:12:07AM HAND WATERING DONE EVERY DAY FOR THE FIRST KIND OF LIKE 60
11:12:10AM TO 90 DAYS CAN BE CHALLENGING.
11:12:12AM I THINK THERE ARE ALSO WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES THERE WE CAN
11:12:16AM EXPLORE.
11:12:16AM AGAIN, THAT MIGHT INCLUDE NEEDING A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S
11:12:20AM LICENSE, NEEDING A NEW WATER TRUCK.
11:12:22AM DEVELOPING AND CREATING THE SCHEDULE.
11:12:24AM AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, OUTSIDE OF THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM AND
11:12:28AM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT WHO PLANTS TREES JUST IN CITY
11:12:31AM PARKS, ME AND KAYLA ARE REALLY THE ONLY ONES FOCUSED ON
11:12:35AM PLANTING TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:12:36AM IT'S A HEAVY LIFT.
11:12:39AM DEVELOPING THESE NEW PROTOCOLS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT TAKE
11:12:43AM TIME BUT KNOW WE ARE THINKING ABOUT IT.
11:12:45AM COUNCILMAN, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER -- OKAY.
11:12:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:12:55AM BACK IN 1979, SO HAPPENS THAT I WAS HERE.
11:12:59AM MAYOR POE AND SIX OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MYSELF MADE
11:13:02AM SEVEN.
11:13:02AM YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO PLANT A TREE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:13:06AM YOU HAD TO PUT IT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IF I RECALL.
11:13:08AM THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN 1979.
11:13:10AM >>WHIT REMER: THAT'S STILL THE CASE WITH TREE TRUST FUND
11:13:13AM MONEY RIGHT NOW.
11:13:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
11:13:14AM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:13:15AM WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT BAD HABIT.
11:13:17AM I'LL CALL IT A HABIT.
11:13:18AM BUT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER.
11:13:20AM IT MAY TAKE SOMETIME.
11:13:22AM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS OVERNIGHT.
11:13:24AM 30,000, 50,000.
11:13:26AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOAL.
11:13:31AM STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE AT FOR THE REST OF YOUR DAMN LIFE.
11:13:35AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOAL TO ATTAIN THAT GOAL, EVEN IF YOU
11:13:38AM FALL SHORT, SOMETIMES YOU GO OVER YOUR GOAL, THAT'S
11:13:41AM WONDERFUL.
11:13:41AM EITHER WAY.
11:13:42AM YOU MUST SET A STANDARD, NO MATTER WHETHER LOW OR HIGH SO
11:13:46AM YOU CAN ATTAIN THAT GOAL.
11:13:48AM ANY SPORT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE A QUARTERBACK OR BASEBALL
11:13:51AM PLAYER OR HOCKEY PLAYER AND SAY I'M NEVER GOING TO SCORE A
11:13:55AM GOAL.
11:13:56AM NO, SCORE THE MOST GOALS, EVEN IF YOU DON'T, BUT YOU WANT
11:13:59AM THAT INCENTIVE.
11:13:59AM WINNING IS ONLY ONE THING.
11:14:02AM KNOW WHAT IT MEANS?
11:14:03AM THAT YOU NEVER WANT TO LOSE.
11:14:05AM THAT'S HOW YOU WIN.
11:14:08AM THAT'S JUST MY SAY FOR THE DAY.
11:14:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:14:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
11:14:18AM AND MYSELF SIT ON THE TPO.
11:14:20AM THERE'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE WITH ROBLES PARK AND F.D.O.T.
11:14:24AM SECRETARY GWYNN HAS COMMITTED -- SO WE HAVE A CONCRETE
11:14:28AM BARRIER GOING IN BETWEEN 275 AND THE PARK.
11:14:31AM HE ALSO COMMITTED TO DOING A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT PART OF
11:14:34AM THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE INTENSITY REQUIRED REQUIRES
11:14:37AM RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM THE CITY AND SUPPORT FROM THE CITY.
11:14:40AM CAN YOU WORK WITH MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE, CHIEF
11:14:44AM BENNETT, MAYBE BE A GO-BETWEEN TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS.
11:14:49AM SECRETARY GWYNN IS AMICABLE TO MAKE A PLAN TO MAKE IT HAPPEN
11:14:53AM BUT CITY SUPPORT TO USE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY F.D.O.T. HAS ALONG
11:14:56AM WITH THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PUT THE PROGRAM TOGETHER.
11:15:00AM >>WHIT REMER: YES, SIR.
11:15:01AM I BELIEVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION MET WITH
11:15:04AM RESIDENTS OUT THERE AND LOOKED AND IS ACTIVELY EXPLORING
11:15:07AM OPTIONS TO CREATE A GREEN WALL OR ENHANCEMENTS.
11:15:12AM I BELIEVE THAT F.D.O.T. HAS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THEIR
11:15:16AM PROJECT BUDGET THAT HAS TO GO TO LANDSCAPING.
11:15:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXACTLY.
11:15:20AM SECRETARY GWYNN COMMITTED SAYING THEY WOULD SUPPORT.
11:15:23AM THEY NEEDED THE CITY TO COME ON BOARD BECAUSE WE HAVE PART
11:15:26AM OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT'S REQUIRED.
11:15:28AM >>WHIT REMER: YES, SIR.
11:15:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:15:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. REMER, DOES THAT CONCLUDE EVERYTHING
11:15:33AM WITH 3 AND 4?
11:15:36AM >>WHIT REMER: EVERYTHING I'VE GOT FOR RIGHT NOW.
11:15:37AM YES, SIR.
11:15:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:15:39AM YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:15:41AM IF SOMEBODY WISHES TO SPEAK AGAIN AFTER I GO THROUGH
11:15:45AM EVERYBODY, BECAUSE IT'S TWO PARTS AND PER THE REQUEST OF
11:15:48AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WE'LL TAKE IT UP LIKE THAT.
11:15:51AM THEN WE'LL GO TO THE REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
11:15:55AM >> JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:15:57AM MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO IDENTIFY ITEM 3 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
11:16:00AM AND THEN IDENTIFY ITEM 4 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:16:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 3,
11:16:07AM PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME.
11:16:09AM AND THEN WE'LL ASK ABOUT ITEM 4.
11:16:12AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI, ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
11:16:14AM BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE FOR
11:16:17AM TAMPA.
11:16:17AM FIRST, I WANT TO TELL YOU, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY
11:16:20AM WITH JC HUDGISON, ABBYE FEELEY EVERY MONTH REGARDING A
11:16:26AM VARIETY OF ISSUES AND TREES HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE BIG ISSUES
11:16:31AM THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, INCLUDING THE TREE INVENTORY THAT
11:16:34AM JC AND HIS STAFF HAVE PUT TOGETHER.
11:16:37AM AS HE SAID, IT WAS A MONUMENTAL TASK AND TRACKING WHERE
11:16:42AM THOSE TREES WERE -- IT WAS A PROBLEM.
11:16:46AM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION DOES NOT SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF
11:16:51AM TREES ONCE A HOUSE IS OCCUPIED.
11:16:54AM AND THERE IS A CONSTANT POLICING ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON.
11:16:59AM ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES ON NEW HOUSES ARE WARRANTIED A YEAR.
11:17:05AM EVERY NEW HOMEOWNER IN THE HOUSE IS GIVEN A PACKAGE OF
11:17:08AM INFORMATION AND A TUTORIAL AND THEY HAVE THE TREE AND
11:17:12AM LANDSCAPING PEOPLE.
11:17:13AM THEY HAVE THE SPRINKLER PEOPLE.
11:17:16AM THEY ARE ALL THERE TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO
11:17:21AM MAINTAIN THE TREES AND THE REST OF THEIR LAWN.
11:17:24AM IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITHIN THAT WARRANTY PERIOD, IT'S
11:17:28AM REPLACED.
11:17:28AM SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO COME BACK AND REPLACE THOSE TREES.
11:17:32AM IF SOMEBODY OPTS TO REMOVE A TREE, THAT IS DONE WITHOUT THE
11:17:40AM KNOWLEDGE AND CERTAINLY WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE
11:17:42AM CONTRACTOR.
11:17:42AM THERE IS SELF-POLICING AS WELL.
11:17:45AM WE SEE THOSE SAME E-MAILS AND THOSE SAME Facebook POSTS
11:17:50AM AND THE CONTRACTORS ARE PRETTY UPSET ABOUT IT WHEN THEY SEE
11:17:53AM IT BECAUSE THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO PUT THOSE TREES
11:17:56AM IN PLACE AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO SELL THEM, SO THERE IS A LOT
11:17:59AM OF THAT GOING ON.
11:18:01AM THERE IS A SPECIFIC CARE PACKAGE THAT'S GIVEN TO EVERY
11:18:05AM HOMEOWNER WHEN THEY GO IN SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE
11:18:08AM SUPPOSED TO DO.
11:18:09AM THEY KNOW ABOUT THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM.
11:18:11AM THEY KNOW ABOUT CARING FOR THE TREES, AND THAT THEY ALSO
11:18:15AM HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THEM.
11:18:17AM I'LL SKIP FOR A SECOND, IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED BY A HUNDRED
11:18:24AM FOOT AREA TO PLANT A LIVE OAK, NOT ONE OF THE REZONINGS THAT
11:18:29AM I BRING TO YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SHOW YOU A LIVE OAK BEING
11:18:32AM PLANTED ON THAT PROPERTY.
11:18:35AM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:18:36AM WE'RE SHOWING YOU LIVE OAKS.
11:18:37AM WE'RE SHOWING YOU SHADE TREES GOING INTO THESE PROJECTS.
11:18:41AM IF YOU NEEDED THAT MUCH SPACE, IT WOULD TAKE UP THE ENTIRE
11:18:45AM LOT.
11:18:45AM I THINK PROBABLY THAT CRITERIA NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
11:18:50AM BUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TREES, WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT
11:18:55AM MAINTAINED AND THE PUBLIC MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TREES,
11:18:59AM ESPECIALLY IN THE LESS AFFLUENT AREAS IS EXTREMELY
11:19:02AM IMPORTANT.
11:19:03AM I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:19:06AM BUT CERTAINLY WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THE BUILDERS
11:19:08AM ASSOCIATION DOES NOT SUPPORT NOR CONDONE THE REMOVAL BUT
11:19:12AM RATHER THE MAINTENANCE AND THE CARE FOR ALL OF THOSE TREES.
11:19:15AM THANK YOU.
11:19:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:19:17AM YES, MA'AM.
11:19:18AM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:19:19AM YOU'RE SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 3, CORRECT?
11:19:22AM >> I THINK SO.
11:19:24AM IT'S SO MUCH INFORMATION.
11:19:25AM MY NAME IS ALISON DATE.
11:19:27AM I'M WITH TTAG AND SIERRA CLUB.
11:19:31AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT
11:19:35AM THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKING SOME OF
11:19:38AM THESE QUESTIONS FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE.
11:19:43AM IT'S REALLY NICE THAT IT IS BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE I THINK
11:19:46AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME KIND
11:19:51AM OF SUMMARY SHEET OF WHAT'S BEING PLANTED AND WHAT'S BEING
11:19:56AM TAKEN OUT AND THAT IT'S AN ONGOING EVENT, WHICH I THINK
11:20:02AM HAPPENED BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THEN EVERYTHING GOT
11:20:06AM DISBURSED AND THAT WAS ELIMINATED.
11:20:10AM IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE AN ANSWER.
11:20:12AM HOW MANY GRAND OAKS HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN THIS YEAR?
11:20:16AM NOBODY COULD EVER SAY UNTIL THE SURVEY CAME OUT, WHICH YOU
11:20:21AM SAW HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
11:20:23AM I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
11:20:25AM I THINK THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT KEEPING TRACK OF THE
11:20:31AM MAINTENANCE -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO
11:20:35AM SAY THIS, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE MITIGATION TREES AND THE
11:20:40AM GIVEAWAY TREES.
11:20:41AM IT HAS TO HAPPEN, I THINK IT TAKES TWO OR THREE YEARS FOR A
11:20:46AM TREE TO BE ESTABLISHED.
11:20:47AM IN THAT TWO- OR THREE-YEAR PERIOD ON REGULAR INTERVALS,
11:20:52AM SOMEBODY SHOULD -- MAYBE PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE AND
11:20:55AM SEND IT IN.
11:20:56AM SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THERE, BUT TO SHOW THE TREE IS
11:21:00AM STILL THERE, IT'S ALIVE I THINK WOULD BE GOOD.
11:21:02AM OTHERWISE WE'RE PLANTING ALL THESE TREES, BUT ARE THEY
11:21:05AM LIVING?
11:21:05AM ARE THEY SURVIVING?
11:21:07AM IF THEY AREN'T, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET OUR GOAL
11:21:10AM EITHER.
11:21:11AM TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT.
11:21:13AM I ALSO WANT TO SEE THOSE TREES ALL ON THE TREE MAP.
11:21:17AM THE MITIGATION TREES, THE GIVEAWAY TREES.
11:21:20AM THE LIVE OAKS.
11:21:22AM AND MAYBE THAT I WANTED TO GET ALL THE LIVE OAKS ON THE LAST
11:21:26AM TREE MAP BECAUSE THEN I THINK WE COULD LOOK TO SEE HOW MANY
11:21:29AM OF THEM GOT CUT DOWN.
11:21:31AM THAT AND ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY BUT I CAN'T SAY IT
11:21:37AM YET, SOMEHOW THE FINE -- IS THAT THE NEXT ONE -- IS THAT THE
11:21:46AM FINE FOR THE TREE CUTTERS SOMEHOW MAYBE IT COULD BE
11:21:51AM CONNECTED TO THE OWNER.
11:21:52AM THE OWNER SHOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO CUT DOWN THE TREE,
11:21:56AM SO IF THEY CAN'T, MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED AN
11:22:00AM ADDITIONAL FEE.
11:22:01AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:22:02AM BUT THEN AT LEAST YOU COULD KNOW WHO THE TREE CUTTERS ARE
11:22:06AM WHO ARE DOING IT.
11:22:08AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:11AM YES, MA'AM.
11:22:12AM PLEASE COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:22:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:22:16AM NANCY STEVENS.
11:22:17AM ALSO WITH TTAG AND TAMPA BAY SIERRA CLUB.
11:22:20AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS.
11:22:22AM AND PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.
11:22:23AM I DO LIKE TO SEE THAT.
11:22:24AM I WANTED TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT WHIT BROUGHT UP WHICH IS
11:22:27AM HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO PLANT A NEW TREE.
11:22:30AM HE GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF MacFARLANE PARK WHICH I THOUGHT WAS
11:22:34AM VERY INTERESTING.
11:22:34AM THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO ITEM 3, WHICH IS SAVING THE TREES
11:22:38AM WE HAVE, WHICH JUST SHOWS IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO SAVE THE
11:22:41AM TREES WE HAVE BECAUSE MAYBE THEY ARE REPLACEABLE BECAUSE IF
11:22:44AM YOU TAKE IT OUT, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PUT ONE BACK THERE
11:22:48AM BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS.
11:22:50AM MACFARLANE PARK IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE.
11:22:54AM NEW CONSTRUCTION ACROSS THE STREET.
11:22:56AM THEY TORE DOWN A TREE TO PUT IN THE PLUMBING AND THE
11:22:59AM ELECTRIC FOR THE NEW HOUSE.
11:23:00AM WELL, WHY WASN'T THAT TREE SAVED?
11:23:03AM THE PLUMBING AND ELECTRIC ROUTED IN A WAY TO AVOID THE TREE
11:23:07AM AND SAVE THE TREE?
11:23:07AM TREES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:23:10AM TREES SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
11:23:12AM I DON'T KNOW WHY THE TREE IN THAT CASE WAS NOT PROTECTED AND
11:23:15AM WORKED AROUND.
11:23:16AM AND NOW PROBABLY CAN'T BE REPLACED BECAUSE NOW THING
11:23:21AM UNDERGROUND AND IT CAN'T BE REPLACED.
11:23:26AM AGAIN, I THINK STEPS BEING MADE BY KEEPING TRACK OF IT AND
11:23:30AM WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL.
11:23:31AM BUT I THINK THE GOAL SHOULD BE TO PRESERVE THE CANOPY AS
11:23:37AM MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
11:23:39AM THE HUNDRED FOOT CANOPY FOR LIVE OAK, THE RITZ-CARLTON WAS
11:23:44AM PUTTING OAK TREES.
11:23:47AM THEY PUT TOWN HOUSES IN.
11:23:50AM EVERY TOWN HOUSE ONE OAK TREE.
11:23:53AM THEY HAVE A NEW VARIETY OF OAK TREES.
11:23:55AM I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME.
11:23:56AM SOMETHING LIKE AN URBAN OAK.
11:23:58AM MAYBE CARROLL ANN CAN REMEMBER IT.
11:24:01AM IT DOESN'T HAVE AS WIDE A SPREAD.
11:24:04AM WE GOT TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX HERE.
11:24:06AM MAYBE NEW VARIETY OF TREES THAT CAN FIT BETTER IN SOME
11:24:10AM LOCATIONS.
11:24:10AM WE CAN TRY TO WORK TO LOOK FOR THOSE THINGS.
11:24:15AM MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN USE IN MORE APPLICATIONS.
11:24:19AM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
11:24:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:26AM >> BOB WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
11:24:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WHITMORE, YOU SPOKE ABOUT TREES AT
11:24:30AM THE BEGINNING.
11:24:32AM >> YES, I DID.
11:24:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. VASKE.
11:24:36AM >> NO, BUT I'M SPEAKING --
11:24:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:24:39AM GO AHEAD.
11:24:41AM >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, PULLING OUT TREES ISN'T A BIG
11:24:47AM PROBLEM.
11:24:48AM IT'S VERY ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:24:52AM BUT MITIGATION IS A DECEPTION.
11:24:55AM IT'S THERE.
11:24:56AM IT'S SMOKE AND MIRRORS TO ALLOW BUILDERS TO TAKE DOWN
11:25:00AM HEALTHY TREES.
11:25:01AM AND WE'RE PUTTING IN SAPLINGS WHERE WE HAVE HEALTHY TREES
11:25:06AM THAT ARE BEING TAKEN OUT TO PUT BUILDINGS THAT ARE WAY
11:25:08AM BIGGER THAN THEY SHOULD BE ON PLOTS OF LAND.
11:25:11AM SO MITIGATION, THE MITIGATION FUND IS A DECEPTION TO ALLOW
11:25:17AM US TO REMOVE TREES.
11:25:18AM I AM HERE TO SAVE TREES AND I WANT TO MAKE A FEW SUGGESTIONS
11:25:23AM ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
11:25:27AM FIRST OF ALL, THE D AND R IS UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF
11:25:31AM BUILDING.
11:25:33AM ANYBODY FIND THAT KIND OF CONFLICTIVE TURN, DIRECTION.
11:25:43AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYOR CASTOR DID WHEN SHE FIRST CAME
11:25:46AM IN.
11:25:47AM SHE MOVED THEM OUT FROM A FREE-STANDING DEPARTMENT AND PUT
11:25:50AM THEM UNDER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
11:25:52AM WHICH ALL THAT DOES IS IT PUTS THEM IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO
11:25:58AM WORK WITH BUILDERS TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BUILD AS
11:26:03AM OPPOSED TO FOCUSING ON A MISSION WHICH WOULD BE TO PRESERVE
11:26:08AM THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF TAMPA BAY.
11:26:09AM THE FIRST THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO MAKE THE
11:26:14AM DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES A FREE-STANDING DEPARTMENT
11:26:17AM SO THAT THE BUILDER'S BOOT ISN'T ON THEIR NECK AND THEY HAVE
11:26:20AM TO DO WHAT THEY SAY OR POSSIBLY LOSE THEIR JOBS.
11:26:25AM WHEN THEY CHANGE THAT, A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE LEFT.
11:26:28AM THERE IS A CERTAIN CULTURE OF FEAR OVER THERE AS TO, MAN, IF
11:26:32AM I PUSH TOO HARD, I'M GOING TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE
11:26:36AM SOMEBODY WILL COME FOR MY JOB.
11:26:38AM WE HAVE TO LET THEM DO THEIR JOB.
11:26:40AM MOVING THEM OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS A
11:26:43AM GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
11:26:45AM WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT FINES AND PENALTIES AND THAT SORT OF
11:26:49AM THING.
11:26:49AM THIS NEEDS TO BE A CRIMINAL ACT.
11:26:52AM WHEN YOU TAKE DOWN A PROTECTED TREE, IF YOU SHOOT A BALD
11:26:56AM EAGLE, THERE IS MORE THAN A FINE TO THAT.
11:26:59AM THIS IS A CRIMINAL ACT.
11:27:03AM I'M ASKING FOR A CLASS TWO MISDEMEANOR, WHICH IS THE SAME,
11:27:07AM WHICH IS THE SAME AS EXCESSIVE SPEEDING.
11:27:10AM ALL RIGHT.
11:27:11AM IF YOU COME IN AND CUT DOWN A PROTECTED TREE, IT SHOULD BE A
11:27:14AM MISDEMEANOR.
11:27:15AM AND THAT'S GOING TO KEEP A LOT OF THE TREE CUTTERS AWAY WHO,
11:27:18AM BY THE WAY, SHOULD BE LICENSED.
11:27:20AM WHY AREN'T THESE GUYS LICENSED?
11:27:22AM LICENSE THE TREE CUTTERS.
11:27:25AM AS A TREE ADVOCATE, I COME AROUND AND SEE SOMEBODY CUTTING
11:27:29AM DOWN A TREE AND HAVE TO APPROACH THESE GUYS WITH CHAIN SAWS.
11:27:32AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM OR WHAT THEY DO.
11:27:36AM WE HAVE TO HAVE LICENSING FOR TREE CUTTERS.
11:27:40AM FINALLY, I'M ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM ON REMOVAL OF OAK
11:27:47AM TREES.
11:27:47AM THAT'S MY GOAL, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:50AM A MORATORIUM ON REMOVING HEALTHY OAKS.
11:27:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:27:53AM YES, MA'AM.
11:27:54AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:27:54AM YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3, CORRECT?
11:27:58AM GO AHEAD.
11:28:00AM >> COURTNEY HONING WITH THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB.
11:28:03AM I AM THE CIVIC CHAIR.
11:28:04AM THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THIS WORKSHOP THIS MORNING.
11:28:06AM WE SO APPRECIATE IT.
11:28:08AM A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I'LL BE BRIEF.
11:28:09AM THE FIRST THING IS WE ARE HAPPY TO BE A PARTNER IN ALL OF
11:28:13AM THIS.
11:28:14AM I'M HAPPY TO GIVE OUR INFORMATION, CONTACT INFORMATION TO
11:28:17AM MS. FEELEY OR WHOEVER THE DESIGNATED PERSON IS TO HELP WITH
11:28:22AM THE MEETINGS.
11:28:22AM WE WOULD LOVE TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THESE MEETINGS TO
11:28:25AM ASSIST IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.
11:28:26AM THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU IS REGARDING THE
11:28:30AM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
11:28:32AM A LOT OF THESE TREES ARE BEING CUT DOWN IN THE VRB PROCESS.
11:28:36AM I DON'T WANT TO BE CRITICAL OF THE VRB OR THE INDIVIDUALS,
11:28:40AM HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THAT TREES COULD BE SAVED DURING THAT
11:28:42AM PROCESS AND ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE NEEDS FOR MITIGATION
11:28:45AM TREES.
11:28:46AM SO AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING CANDIDATES FOR THE VRB, WOULD YOU
11:28:49AM PLEASE CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THE INDIVIDUAL IS AN ADVOCATE
11:28:53AM FOR TREES.
11:28:54AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
11:28:55AM WE COULD PROBABLY PREVENT A LOT OF THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE
11:28:59AM THEY EVEN COME UP.
11:29:00AM THE THIRD THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS I HAVE BEEN HEARING
11:29:03AM RUMBLINGS THAT THE HOT LINE YOU CAN CALL IF YOU SEE A TREE
11:29:06AM BEING CUT DOWN AND BELIEVE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, I HEARD
11:29:09AM OF THEM GOING TO VOICE MAIL OR NO ONE IS FOLLOWING UP.
11:29:12AM IF SOMEONE WOULD CITY COUNCIL COULD CHECK ON THAT, WE WOULD
11:29:15AM BE REALLY GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE.
11:29:17AM THE LAST THING I WAS THINKING OF AN IDEA BACK THERE WHILE
11:29:21AM YOU WERE DISCUSSING THIS, PEOPLE HAVE TO SIGN PAPERWORK WHEN
11:29:24AM THEY BUY A HOUSE.
11:29:25AM A LOT OF PAPERWORK.
11:29:26AM I REALIZE THAT.
11:29:27AM MAYBE THE REALTOR COULD HELP WITH PROVIDING THAT INDIVIDUAL
11:29:30AM WITH PAPERWORK THAT THEY SIGN KNOWING THAT THERE IS A
11:29:33AM MITIGATION TREE IN THAT YARD AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
11:29:37AM TAKING CARE OF THAT TREE AND FOR NOT TAKING IT OUT.
11:29:40AM JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
11:29:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
11:29:43AM AGAIN, THE GARDEN CLUB IS HAPPY TO BE A PARTNER IN THIS AND
11:29:46AM WE APPRECIATE YOU HOSTING THE WORKSHOP.
11:29:48AM THANK YOU.
11:29:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:49AM YES, MA'AM.
11:29:50AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:29:52AM >> HELLO.
11:29:53AM PAULA MECKLEY.
11:29:54AM I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB, AND WE ARE SO
11:29:56AM EXCITED THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING.
11:29:59AM IT REALLY DOES OUR HEART WELL THAT YOU GUYS ARE TAKING A
11:30:03AM HARD LOOK AT ALL OF THIS.
11:30:05AM I WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
11:30:06AM SIX MONTHS ISN'T LONG ENOUGH.
11:30:09AM IT FALLS THEN BACK ONTO THE NEIGHBOR TO REPORT THAT.
11:30:12AM AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
11:30:14AM YOU'RE PUTTING A WEDGE BETWEEN YOUR NEIGHBOR AND THE PERSON
11:30:17AM WHO IS TAKING OUT A MITIGATION TREE.
11:30:19AM TREES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:30:21AM I LOVE THAT.
11:30:22AM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT AND
11:30:24AM REPLACING THESE BIG SHADE TREES AND I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY
11:30:27AM TALKING ABOUT LIVE OAKS, BUT ANY BIG SHADE TREE, THERE ARE
11:30:31AM ALL KINDS OF THEM, WITH CRAPE MYRTLES IS NOT THE ANSWER.
11:30:35AM I PERSONALLY HAD AN EXPERIENCE RECENTLY WHERE A DEVELOPER
11:30:39AM WAS GETTING READY TO DO THIS BIG PROJECT AND THEY BROUGHT
11:30:42AM PLANS AND WE LOOKED AT THEM AND THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT
11:30:45AM THESE TEN LIVE OAKS IN TEN FOOT SPACE.
11:30:49AM THOSE WOULD NEVER SURVIVE THERE.
11:30:51AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SURVIVE.
11:30:52AM BUT THE DEVELOPERS CAN EASILY PUT THESE TREES IN THESE VERY
11:30:56AM WEIRD LOCATIONS AND THEIR PLANS GET APPROVED.
11:30:58AM BUT YET I'M LISTENING TO THE CITY AND THEY ARE HAVING A HARD
11:31:01AM TIME PUTTING TREES IN BECAUSE THERE ARE ALL THESE
11:31:04AM RESTRICTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY CAN PUT TREES IN.
11:31:07AM BUT DEVELOPERS CAN PUT THEM ANYWHERE IN A TWO FOOT BY TWO
11:31:10AM FOOT SPOT.
11:31:11AM OH, YEAH, MEET THEIR OBLIGATION.
11:31:14AM SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT, TRYING TO DO MORE TREES, THE CITY
11:31:17AM IS TRYING TO DO IT BUT THE DEVELOPERS ARE GETTING THAT
11:31:19AM OPPORTUNITY.
11:31:20AM I DON'T GET IT.
11:31:20AM THE LAST THING IS I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE JUSTICE TRACTS.
11:31:27AM WE HAVE HEAT TRACTS.
11:31:28AM ROBLES PARK, TRYING TO HELP AND SUPPORT ROBLES PARK WITH
11:31:31AM THEIR GREEN WALL.
11:31:33AM THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
11:31:34AM THESE AREAS REALLY NEED THE SHADE FROM THE HEAT ISLANDS AND
11:31:37AM HEAT TRACTS THAT GO UP AND DOWN.
11:31:40AM IF THERE'S ANY WAY THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB CAN SUPPORT THAT,
11:31:44AM WE -- ABBYE FEELEY, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HOST SOME MEETINGS
11:31:47AM AT OUR CLUB BRINGING REALTORS TOGETHER, BRINGING
11:31:51AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TOGETHER, BRINGING WHOEVER YOU
11:31:54AM NEED, GIVE ME A CALL.
11:31:55AM I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
11:31:58AM WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HOST.
11:32:01AM WE LOVE THE DIRECTION THIS IS GOING.
11:32:03AM WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER.
11:32:04AM WE WANT TO HELP.
11:32:05AM WE WANT TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
11:32:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:32:09AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:32:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:32:12AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:32:13AM THIS IS KIND OF DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD BECAUSE AS ALL OF YOU
11:32:19AM HAVE BEEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEEN REALLY POORLY PLANTED
11:32:22AM MITIGATION TREES ON BERMS THIS BIG ON A BLOCK WALL THAT
11:32:27AM COULD EASILY BE PUNCTURED BY THOSE TREES.
11:32:30AM A 12-FOOT BY 12-FOOT SPACE IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR LIVE OAKS BUT
11:32:36AM YET THEY PLANTED MANY, MANY OF THEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:32:39AM THEN WHEN MY NEIGHBORS SAID, OH, MY GOSH, THEY ARE STARTING
11:32:44AM TO ENCROACH ON OUR WATER LINE AND IT'S BEEN SIX OR SEVEN
11:32:48AM YEARS AGO NOW, THE CITY WANTED TO FINE THEM FOR TAKING OUT
11:32:52AM THE LIVE OAK THAT WAS THERE.
11:32:54AM THE ONES PLANTED IN MY YARD ARE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL
11:32:57AM LOCATION.
11:32:57AM THEY WERE RELOCATED ON MY LOT BECAUSE THEY WERE POORLY
11:33:01AM PLACED.
11:33:06AM YOU GOT A REALLY FUNKY SITUATION HERE.
11:33:09AM I'M BEFUDDLED THAT WE HAVE BUILDERS RUNNING OUT AND
11:33:13AM WILLY-NILLY PLACING THEM WHEREVER THEY WANT, EVEN WHEN IT'S
11:33:17AM REALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR THEM TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF THE
11:33:19AM SEWER LINES AND WHATNOT.
11:33:22AM BUT THEN WE'RE STANDING HERE GOING, WELL, WE NEED TO FINE
11:33:27AM THE HOMEOWNERS, YET WE HAVE BUSINESS LICENSES FOR
11:33:31AM CONSULTANTS.
11:33:31AM WE HAVE BUSINESS LICENSES FOR LANDSCAPERS.
11:33:34AM WE HAVE A BUNCH OF LANDSCAPERS HERE TODAY.
11:33:36AM I GUARANTEE YOU THEY HAVE BUSINESS LICENSES.
11:33:39AM HANDY MAN HAS TO HAVE LICENSE.
11:33:41AM I HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR EACH ONE OF MY
11:33:44AM RENTALS.
11:33:45AM YET WE'RE TALKING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY LICENSING IN THE
11:33:49AM CITY FOR THE TREE GUYS.
11:33:50AM I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.
11:33:51AM I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS BEAUTIFUL TREE THAT I PASSED ON THE
11:33:55AM WAY HERE THIS MORNING THAT IS NOW ABOUT YEAH TALL AND
11:33:59AM SITTING ON ITS SIDE AND THE BASE OF IT IS SITTING SIDEWAYS.
11:34:03AM SOMEBODY ALREADY FILED IT.
11:34:05AM I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FILE THE COMPLAINT.
11:34:07AM IT WAS CUT DOWN WITHOUT A PERMIT.
11:34:10AM I'M NOT KIDDING YOU, THE BASE STANDS THIS HIGH SITTING ON
11:34:14AM ITS SIDE.
11:34:14AM I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TAKE PICTURES BECAUSE I WAS RUNNING
11:34:17AM BEHIND.
11:34:18AM I THINK DOING THE DOOR HANGER WITH THE INSPECTION, I THINK
11:34:24AM THAT THE CITY SHOULD ADD AFFIDAVITS TO A SALE OF A BRAND-NEW
11:34:29AM PROPERTY.
11:34:30AM ABBYE SAID 500 AND SOMETHING BRAND-NEW HOMES IN THE CITY.
11:34:34AM I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT THAT SAYS THE
11:34:37AM TREES ARE NEW AND THEY ARE MITIGATION TREES AND THEY WILL
11:34:40AM NOT BE REMOVED AND DESTROYED.
11:34:42AM LIKE I SAID, MINE ARE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL PLACEMENT.
11:34:45AM I'M JUST SO CONFUSED.
11:34:50AM I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CITIZENS.
11:34:54AM WE CAN PUSH THINGS OUT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO
11:34:58AM CONSIDERATION THAT THE BUILDERS ARE DOING US A DISSERVICE ON
11:35:02AM A REGULAR BASIS.
11:35:03AM AND TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T HOLD THE TREE GUYS RESPONSIBLE IS
11:35:07AM RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION I HAD ABOUT MY
11:35:09AM NEIGHBORS' TREES.
11:35:11AM THEY CALLED MY HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE I WAS THE PROPERTY MANAGER
11:35:14AM AND SAID YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS.
11:35:16AM AND I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.
11:35:18AM WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL THE TREE GUYS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
11:35:21AM I DIDN'T KNOW BACK THEN.
11:35:22AM BUT I KNOW NOW.
11:35:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:24AM I HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
11:35:29AM LORRAINE PARRINO, ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:35:33AM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:35:40AM MS. PARRINO.
11:35:41AM WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MA'AM.
11:35:56AM WE'LL GO TO CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3 AND BACK
11:36:03AM TO MS. PARRINO.
11:36:04AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF
11:36:07AM FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:36:08AM >> HI.
11:36:09AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:36:11AM I'M SORRY I'M NOT THERE IN PERSON.
11:36:13AM I'M OUT OF STATE WORKING ON MY FAMILY'S TREE FARM.
11:36:16AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS HURTAK AND CARLSON FOR
11:36:22AM MAKING THE MOTION.
11:36:23AM THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE AND BENEFICIAL
11:36:27AM WORKSHOP.
11:36:27AM I'M THRILLED WITH IT.
11:36:29AM I WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON YOUR COMMENTS.
11:36:33AM IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND INSIGHTFUL.
11:36:37AM IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING.
11:36:38AM I'M ALSO EXTREMELY HAPPY ABOUT THE NEW POLICY ABOUT FINING
11:36:45AM THE TREE CUTTERS.
11:36:46AM I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON ILLEGAL TREE
11:36:51AM REMOVALS AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE ILLEGAL PART OF THAT.
11:36:54AM I THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES THESE TREE CUTTERS CAN BE
11:37:01AM IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE HOMEOWNERS, AND IF THE HOMEOWNERS
11:37:05AM REFUSE, PERHAPS SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN IN REGARDS TO THAT.
11:37:09AM BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL TAKE A PICTURE OF A LICENSE PLATE
11:37:13AM OF BILLY JOE BOB'S RUSTY PICKUP TRUCK WITH HIS CHAIN SAW ON
11:37:19AM A SUNDAY -- EASTER SUNDAY CUTTING DOWN A TREE AND THE CITY
11:37:23AM OF TAMPA HAPPENS TO HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT KNOWS
11:37:26AM WHERE BILLY JOE BOB LIVES AND THEY CAN NAIL THE VIOLATION TO
11:37:31AM HIM.
11:37:31AM SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BE A LOT EASIER TO DO
11:37:34AM THIS, AND I THINK IT WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT.
11:37:38AM I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT FINES FOR ILLEGAL PRUNING.
11:37:41AM I HAVE REPORTED SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE VERY LARGE LIMBS
11:37:46AM WERE REMOVED FROM GRAND TREES WITHOUT A PERMIT, WHICH IS
11:37:50AM REQUIRED BY OUR CODE, AND I AM UNAWARE OF ANY FINES HAVING
11:37:55AM BEEN LEVIED FOR THAT VIOLATION, WHICH IS IRREPARABLE.
11:37:59AM I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LITTLE INFORMATION.
11:38:02AM I WAS ABLE TO GET ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
11:38:05AM ALSO COMMENT ON THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.
11:38:07AM MARY DANIELLE BRYSON IN CHARGE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT FINANCIAL
11:38:11AM RESOURCES DOES AN AMAZING JOB.
11:38:14AM QUITE FRANKLY, I BELIEVE SHE'S GOT THE WORK OF TWO PEOPLE.
11:38:17AM SHE HAS A VERY HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH EVERYTHING.
11:38:20AM I HAVE MADE 30, 40 COMPLAINTS PROBABLY IN LESS THAN A YEAR,
11:38:28AM AND IT'S JUST VERY HARD FOR HER TO KEEP UP WITH THIS.
11:38:32AM I THINK THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, IT SEEMS TO ME HAS
11:38:35AM BEEN CHRONICALLY UNDERSTAFFED.
11:38:38AM I DON'T KNOW WHY.
11:38:39AM I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HIRE PEOPLE AND THEN THE PEOPLE
11:38:43AM QUIT.
11:38:43AM I KNOW THEY ARE ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR PEOPLE.
11:38:46AM I KNOW WHEN KATHY BECK RETIRED, HER POSITION WAS NEVER
11:38:50AM REPOSTED.
11:38:51AM I KNOW THERE WAS A CONSULTANT FROM NEW YORK WHO CAME TO
11:38:55AM TAMPA IN 2019 AND SAID YOU SHOULD BREAK UP THE NATURAL
11:38:59AM RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND SPREAD THEM OUT.
11:39:01AM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO DO
11:39:04AM THINGS.
11:39:05AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.
11:39:07AM MAYBE GOING BACK TO A CENTRALIZED AND REPOSTING KATHY BECK'S
11:39:11AM POSITION MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO.
11:39:13AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:39:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:39:16AM >> I ALSO WANT ON NUMBER 4.
11:39:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT NUMBER 4?
11:39:22AM >> I'LL BE COMMENTING ON THAT.
11:39:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT.
11:39:26AM MS. PARRINO, ARE YOU ON?
11:39:28AM GO AHEAD ON ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:39:30AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:39:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:39:33AM GO AHEAD.
11:39:33AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:39:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:39:34AM LORRAINE PARRINO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY
11:39:37AM GROUP.
11:39:37AM ACCORDING TO THE TREE CANOPY AND URBAN FOREST ANALYSIS OF
11:39:43AM 2021, TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY IN 2021 WAS THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE
11:39:47AM IN 26 YEARS, SINCE 1995.
11:39:51AM THE LOSS OF TREE CANOPY SINCE 2011 IS OVER 3,300 ACRES.
11:39:56AM TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S AN AREA ROUGHLY THE SIZE
11:40:00AM OF CLEAR CUTTING FOUR DAVIS ISLANDS, FIVE DOWNTOWN AREAS, 25
11:40:04AM AL LOPEZ PARKS, 3.7 U.S. CAMPUSES OR OVER 1,325 TIMES THE
11:40:14AM AREA OF RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM WHERE THE TAMPA BAY BUCS PLAY
11:40:18AM FOOTBALL.
11:40:18AM IN SOUTH TAMPA, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE BETWEEN
11:40:23AM 2016 AND 2021.
11:40:24AM THE 2021 TREE CANOPY OF SOUTH TAMPA IS THE LOWEST IN 26
11:40:28AM YEARS SINCE 1998.
11:40:30AM I'M ENCOURAGED BY SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS DISCUSSED TODAY.
11:40:36AM I WOULD LIKE TO REINFORCE FINING THE TREE CUTTERS WHO PRUNE
11:40:41AM TREES WITHOUT CHECKING FIRST TO SEE IF THERE IS A CITY
11:40:44AM PERMIT OR REMOVE TREES WITHOUT SEEING IF THERE IS A CITY
11:40:48AM PERMIT.
11:40:49AM BROWARD COUNTY LICENSES THEIR TREE CUTTERS, AND THEY MAKE
11:40:53AM THEM TAKE A COURSE ON HOW TO PROPERLY PRUNE TREES BEFORE
11:40:57AM THEY CAN GET THEIR LICENSE.
11:40:59AM THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEIR TREE CANOPY WENT DOWN TO 18% IS
11:41:04AM WHAT I READ.
11:41:05AM TAMPA SHOULD DO THE SAME THING.
11:41:07AM FOLLOW UP ON MITIGATION TREE PLANTINGS.
11:41:11AM MAKE SURE THEY ARE BEING CARED FOR AND NOT SOLD.
11:41:13AM FOLLOW UP ON THE TREE GIVE AWAYS THAT THE CITY IS GIVING
11:41:17AM AWAY TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CARED FOR FROM THAT
11:41:20AM MILLION-DOLLAR GRANT THAT THE CITY GOT FROM THE FEDERAL
11:41:22AM GOVERNMENT.
11:41:23AM MAKE GRAND TREE REMOVAL A MISDEMEANOR.
11:41:28AM IN ADDITION TO MITIGATION AND PAYING A HIGH FINE, GRAND
11:41:33AM TREES ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE RARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:41:35AM THE PREVAILING THOUGHT WHEN IT COMES TO NEW CONSTRUCTION
11:41:40AM IT'S EASIER REMOVALS, EASIER FORGIVENESS THAN PERMISSION.
11:41:47AM INCREASE THE FINES, MAKE IT A MISDEMEANOR.
11:41:50AM TREE HOT LINE IS INEFFECTUAL.
11:41:52AM THE TTAG Facebook PAGE, PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP ON THE TREE
11:41:57AM HOT LINE BECAUSE NOTHING EVER COMES OF THEIR COMPLAINT.
11:42:00AM SO THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND MADE TO WORK.
11:42:04AM IN MY OPINION, IT NEVER HAS WORKED VERY WELL.
11:42:07AM PLANTING LIVE OAK TREES IS DIFFICULT.
11:42:10AM THEY NEED A LOT OF SPACE.
11:42:11AM AS I SAID LAST WEEK IN MY FIRE STATION PRESENTATION, THERE
11:42:15AM ARE PUBLIC SPACES WHERE GRANT OAKS CAN BE PLANTED.
11:42:19AM PARKS, CHURCHES, COLLEGE CAMPUSES, FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE
11:42:27AM STATIONS ARE SOME PLACES YOU CAN LOOK AT TO PLANT LIVE OAKS
11:42:31AM BECAUSE THEY ARE SO VALUABLE, YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THEY ARE
11:42:34AM TOO BIG AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLANT THEM.
11:42:36AM THEY CONTRIBUTE TOO MUCH TO THE ECOLOGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT
11:42:40AM TO DISCOUNT THEM.
11:42:41AM IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE
11:42:46AM TREE WORKSHOP.
11:42:47AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR BRINGING IT INTO
11:42:53AM EXISTENCE.
11:42:55AM WE AT TTAG WOULD LIKE TO SEE TREES ALWAYS BE FRONT AND
11:43:00AM CENTER OF EVERYBODY'S MIND AND NOT JUST DISCUSSED AT A TREE
11:43:03AM WORKSHOP.
11:43:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:07AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:43:10AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:43:15AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:43:19AM >> WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
11:43:21AM THIS HAS BEEN FUN.
11:43:24AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH TAKING A DAY OFF BUT I REALLY
11:43:27AM APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.
11:43:28AM I WILL BE STANDING HERE IN FIVE YEARS TALKING ABOUT 5%
11:43:32AM DEPLETION OF THE TREE CANOPY IN TAMPA.
11:43:35AM UNTIL THERE IS POLITICAL WILL IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE
11:43:40AM TREE PRESERVATION A CRITICAL MATTER, WE WILL NOT SAVE THE
11:43:44AM CANOPY.
11:43:45AM SAPLINGS IS NOT -- ARE NOT SAVING THE CANOPY.
11:43:50AM THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
11:43:52AM WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY -- THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO
11:43:56AM THIS IN AN HOUR.
11:43:58AM WHEN SOMEBODY PULLS DOWN A LITTLE HOUSE, WHY CAN THEY PUT UP
11:44:02AM A BIG HOUSE WHEN SOMEBODY HAD A BIG OAK TREE?
11:44:04AM MITIGATION PARK.
11:44:05AM SOMEBODY BUYS A LOT FULL OF TREES AND COMES AND WANTS TO PUT
11:44:09AM UP CONDOS HAPPENING AT COACHMAN AND MacDILL AND WANTS TO
11:44:12AM PUT UP CONDOS, WELL, NO, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES ON
11:44:16AM THERE AND THE CITY HAS DECIDED THEY WILL CALL THAT A
11:44:19AM MITIGATION PARK AND MITIGATE THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO
11:44:22AM PIPES.
11:44:22AM LET'S BUY LOTS WHERE THERE ARE BIG GIANT OAKS IN THE MIDDLE,
11:44:26AM WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO TEAR THEM DOWN BECAUSE
11:44:30AM BUILDINGS COME FIRST.
11:44:31AM NO, MITIGATE.
11:44:32AM PLANT YOUR LITTLE TREES AROUND THAT THING AND MAYBE IF WE
11:44:35AM DON'T ALL FRY BEFORE 40 YEARS WHEN THIS TREE ACTUALLY
11:44:38AM BECOMES ABLE TO PROTECT US FROM GLOBAL WARMING, THEN MAYBE
11:44:42AM IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
11:44:43AM THE ONE THING THAT WE NEED AND EVERYBODY IS GOING TO MOAN
11:44:48AM AND HATE THIS IDEA, IS REVISIT AND REVISE THE TREE CODES IN
11:44:57AM LIEU OF NEW SCIENTIFIC FACTS THAT TALK ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
11:45:01AM FOR A COASTAL CITY THAT DEPENDS ON TREES TO KEEP US FROM
11:45:05AM DROWNING AND FRYING IN FLORIDA.
11:45:08AM IT'S TIME TO GET THE BUILDERS AND TTAG AND DNR, YOU GUYS AND
11:45:15AM EVERYBODY ELSE AND DO WHAT THEY DID TO MAKE THAT BIG BOOK OF
11:45:19AM STUFF, REVISE IT.
11:45:22AM WHY DO WE HAVE TO TEAR DOWN A TREE BECAUSE IT'S TEN FEET
11:45:28AM INSIDE WHERE -- NO, LET'S KEEP IT UP AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
11:45:32AM BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.
11:45:34AM WE WILL CUT IT DOWN BEFORE WE LOOK FOR A VARIANCE CHANGE TO
11:45:39AM KNOCK OFF TEN FEET OFF OF THE REQUIRED ROOM NEEDED FOR A
11:45:45AM LIVE OAK TREE.
11:45:46AM IT'S INSANE.
11:45:47AM IT'S LIKE LET'S KILL THE PATIENT INSTEAD OF TAKING OUT THE
11:45:51AM APPENDIX BECAUSE IT'S EASY.
11:45:53AM IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL MORNING.
11:45:55AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DOING THIS AND
11:46:00AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND ALL YOU GUYS.
11:46:02AM YOU'VE ALL COME AROUND FOR THE NEED FOR TREES.
11:46:05AM I JUST DON'T FEEL THE URGENCY.
11:46:07AM I JUST DON'T.
11:46:09AM I DON'T FEEL THE URGENCY.
11:46:10AM IT'S URGENT.
11:46:12AM EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY KNOWS IT'S URGENT.
11:46:15AM EVERY CITY.
11:46:16AM AND PUT AN HOUR AND I'LL BE BACK TO SAVE A TREE.
11:46:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:22AM YES, SIR.
11:46:23AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:46:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:46:31AM A LOT MORE HAS TO BE DONE TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES.
11:46:36AM BUILDING SOMETHING WITHOUT SOLAR.
11:46:40AM YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING WITH GRASS.
11:46:44AM YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN CHANGE.
11:46:47AM TREES AIN'T THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO TO SAVE THE WORLD.
11:46:52AM WE HAVE DISCUSSED NOTHING BUT TREES TODAY.
11:46:54AM IT'S TRUE IT IS THE ONLY THING ON THE AGENDA.
11:46:56AM YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE ALL THE GRASS YOU NEED IN YOUR FRONT
11:47:00AM YARD OR THE BACKYARD.
11:47:01AM YOU CAN HAVE ROCKS.
11:47:04AM YOU CAN COLOR THE ROCKS ANY COLOR YOU WANT.
11:47:11AM WHY DO WE BUILD HOUSES WITH EAVES.
11:47:14AM THE HURRICANES PICK UP THE ROOF AND THE WALLS COLLAPSE.
11:47:17AM THAT'S NICE.
11:47:18AM I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, NOT AN ENGINEER.
11:47:21AM WHY DO WE BUILD HOUSES WHERE UNDER THE SIX INCHES OF
11:47:24AM CONCRETE IS WHERE YOUR PLUMBING IS AT.
11:47:27AM WHEN YOU HAVE A LEAK, YOU HAVE TO TEAR THE HOUSE INSIDE.
11:47:31AM IT MAKES REAL GOOD SENSE TO DO THAT.
11:47:33AM WE NEED A LOT MORE THINKING.
11:47:37AM WE'VE ALL GOT TO WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS.
11:47:41AM IF YOU SOLVE ONE, YOU'RE NOT SOLVING MUCH.
11:47:44AM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS YOU CAN DO.
11:47:47AM WHY DO WE HAVE ELECTRIC CARS?
11:47:49AM WHY DO YOU HAVE HYBRIDS?
11:47:52AM SOONER OR LATER AND MORE THAN LIKELY SOONER THAN LATER,
11:47:58AM YOU'LL HAVE ENGINES THAT RUN ON WATER THAT DRIVE A CAR AND
11:48:02AM HYDROGEN DRIVING A CAR.
11:48:04AM BUT THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:48:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:07AM YES, MA'AM.
11:48:08AM MA'AM?
11:48:08AM NO.
11:48:15AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:48:16AM CHARLIE, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO HOW MUCH I HATE GRASS
11:48:19AM BECAUSE IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY AND WASTE OF TIME.
11:48:22AM BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT I AM NOT A TREE HUGGER HERE.
11:48:25AM I'VE GOT LOTS OF FRIENDS HERE WHO ARE TREE HUGGERS AND I
11:48:29AM LOVE THEM FOR IT.
11:48:29AM BUT JUST IN THE LAST HOUR OR SO, THESE ARE THE PLACES WHERE
11:48:34AM I SEE THAT WE NEED TREES JUST IN MY COMMUNITY.
11:48:39AM THE NEW E.L.A.P.P. PROJECT PUTTING IN THAT NINE ACRE POND,
11:48:43AM THEY'LL NEED NEW TREES.
11:48:44AM GADSDEN PARK DESPERATELY NEEDS TREES ON THE WALKING TRAIL.
11:48:48AM BOBBY HICKS PARK, THERE ARE NO TREES ON A HUGE PART OF THAT
11:48:54AM PROPERTY.
11:48:55AM THE ROAD TO PICNIC ISLAND WHICH FLOODS EVERY TIME, SO THAT
11:48:59AM IS A GREAT PLACE FOR TREES THAT DRINK UP 40 -- 400,000
11:49:04AM GALLONS OF WATER A YEAR COULD GO.
11:49:06AM THE NEW PARKING LOTS AT ROBINSON COULD USE SOME TREES.
11:49:11AM THE MANHATTAN TRAIL, THE TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG MANHATTAN
11:49:17AM COULD USE SOME MORE TREES.
11:49:18AM THAT'S JUST WHAT I CAME UP WITH IN FIVE MINUTES.
11:49:22AM WE'VE GOT THAN.
11:49:23AM WE'VE GOT TTAG.
11:49:24AM WE'VE GOT ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THROUGHOUT THE
11:49:28AM ENTIRE CITY.
11:49:29AM I GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF I CAN COME UP WITH THAT IN FIVE
11:49:32AM MINUTES AND THAT'S NOT EVEN ON THE OTHER SIDE -- THAT'S NOT
11:49:35AM ALL OF SOG.
11:49:36AM THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES TO PLANT TREES AND PLENTY OF WAYS
11:49:41AM TO WORK WITH FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE TREES.
11:49:43AM I ASKED FOR TREES TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THE SOG --
11:49:48AM SORRY, OVER A YEAR AGO BECAUSE THEY JUST HAD THEIR
11:49:51AM ANNIVERSARY.
11:49:52AM I ASKED FOR TREES FOR OUR MITIGATION FROM THE CITY.
11:49:56AM AND I WAS TOLD, NO, I COULDN'T HAVE THE TREES.
11:49:58AM THE CITY WOULD NOT DONATE TREES TO OUR COMMUNITY CENTER FOR
11:50:04AM THE BUFFER BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE CITY'S RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:50:08AM THERE'S A LITTLE ROAD THERE.
11:50:11AM BUT YET I WAS TOLD, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THOSE TREES.
11:50:14AM NOW, MAYBE MY COMMUNITY GARDENS PEOPLE GO AND PICK THEM UP
11:50:19AM ONE OR TWO AT A TIME.
11:50:20AM THAT IS THEIR DEAL.
11:50:21AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO.
11:50:22AM BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS WE HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE ON
11:50:25AM WHERE WE CAN REPLACE THE TREES AT.
11:50:27AM BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE GOT
11:50:31AM 16-YEAR-OLD TREES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN WATERED SINCE, OH, AT
11:50:35AM LEAST 2010, THEY ARE FINE.
11:50:39AM BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.
11:50:41AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW STAFF CAN COME UP HERE AND GO, WE
11:50:44AM CAN'T PLANT THEM ALL WHEN BY LOOKING AT A GIS MAP, NO, WE'RE
11:50:49AM NEVER GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PLANT THEM ALL.
11:50:52AM BUT IF WE CAN REALLY, REALLY LEAN INTO THIS, WITH THE
11:50:55AM NEIGHBORHOODS, WHO KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY BETTER THAN ANYBODY
11:50:59AM ELSE, I'VE NEVER RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM MR. REMER AND HIS
11:51:02AM DEPARTMENT ABOUT, HEY, WHERE DO YOU THINK TREES CAN GO IN
11:51:05AM OUR COMMUNITY?
11:51:06AM NEVER HAPPENED.
11:51:08AM IT COULD HAPPEN TODAY.
11:51:10AM THANK YOU.
11:51:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:13AM WE HAVE SOME REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
11:51:16AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:51:20AM >> HI.
11:51:21AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:51:22AM I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT ITEM 4.
11:51:26AM THE BENEFITS OF TREES ARE EXTREMELY WELL KNOWN.
11:51:29AM THE HEALTH BENEFITS, THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS, AND IT'S VERY
11:51:33AM IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF TAMPA HAS A HEALTHY TREE CANOPY.
11:51:37AM MY DAUGHTER HAD TO HAVE A TREE REMOVED IN HER YARD.
11:51:41AM SHE DIDN'T WANT IT REMOVED BUT IT WAS DISEASED.
11:51:44AM IT HAD TO BE REMOVED.
11:51:47AM SHE KNEW IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT BUT HAD NO IDEA THE IMPACT.
11:51:51AM CENTRAL HEAT AND AIR THAT WORKED FINE FOR YEARS COULD NO
11:51:54AM LONGER KEEP UP.
11:51:55AM IT RAN 24/7.
11:51:57AM SHE HAD TO BUY A PORTABLE TO SUPPLEMENT IT.
11:52:00AM HER ELECTRIC BILL WENT THROUGH THE ROOF AND SHE NOW HAS TO
11:52:04AM PAY FOR AN ENTIRE NEW HVAC JUST BECAUSE OF THE REMOVAL OF
11:52:09AM ONE TREE.
11:52:10AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THESE TREES IN THESE
11:52:14AM JUSTICE 40 NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE PLANT THEM.
11:52:16AM PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE TREES IS THE GENTRIFICATION
11:52:19AM WHICH IS A PROBLEM FOR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN TAMPA.
11:52:21AM THE HOUSING STUDY SAID ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTORS TO
11:52:25AM THE RISE IN THE COST OF HOUSING IS THE RISE IN THE SIZE OF
11:52:29AM THE HOUSING, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
11:52:32AM EVERYTHING IS BIGGER.
11:52:33AM WE HAD ALL THIS MISSING MIDDLE THAT WAS -- I MEAN, 17, 18
11:52:37AM HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT HOUSE USED TO BE CONSIDERED VERY LARGE.
11:52:41AM WHEN YOU PUT THAT HOUSE ON A LOT, YOU HAD PLENTY OF ROOM FOR
11:52:44AM GRAND TREES.
11:52:45AM BUT IF YOU REMOVE THAT HOUSE AND YOU REPLACE IT WITH A FIVE
11:52:49AM OR SIX THOUSAND-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE THAT'S BUILT ALL THE WAY
11:52:51AM TO THE SETBACKS, NOW YOU NO LONGER HAVE ROOM FOR THESE TREES
11:52:55AM AND THE COST OF HOUSING GOES UP.
11:52:57AM PEOPLE DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY WANT PLACES THAT BIG BUT THAT
11:53:01AM IS THE ONLY THING BEING BUILT.
11:53:03AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
11:53:05AM ACCORDING TO THE TREE STUDY, THEY IDENTIFIED PLACES WHERE
11:53:10AM 5.8 MILLION TREES CAN BE PLANTED AND 263,000 TREES ON CITY
11:53:17AM PROPERTY.
11:53:17AM I KNOW ALL THOSE AREN'T APPROPRIATE FOR LIVE OAKS, BUT THEY
11:53:21AM SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
11:53:22AM I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT LIVE OAKS NEED A 20-FOOT
11:53:26AM PROTECTIVE RADIUS.
11:53:27AM THE NEW VARIETIES MAY NEED LESS, BUT THEY ARE, AND THE TREE
11:53:33AM STUDY TELLS YOU, THEY ARE THE STRONGEST TREES.
11:53:36AM THEY ARE THE MOST RESISTANT TO STORMS.
11:53:39AM THEY ARE VERY ADAPTABLE TO SPACES.
11:53:42AM THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A GIANT PLACE.
11:53:46AM YES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT
11:53:49AM NEED TO REMEMBER THESE ARE THE TREES DOING ALL THE WORK,
11:53:52AM EVEN IF ONLY 3% OF THE POPULATION.
11:53:54AM I ALSO WANT TO SAY OUR TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM, PEOPLE WANT TO
11:54:02AM PARTICIPATE.
11:54:03AM THE WAIT LIST, NINE MONTHS, TEN MONTHS, A YEAR.
11:54:06AM WHY DON'T WE TRY TO MAKE IT SO THE PEOPLE CAN GET THE TREES
11:54:09AM THROUGH THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM?
11:54:11AM ABBYE FEELEY HAS WORKED WITH ME.
11:54:18AM WE TALKED ABOUT THE INSPECTORS GOING TO THE SITES AND THEY
11:54:20AM SEE THE TREE BARRIER.
11:54:22AM THE GIANT ORANGE BARRIER IS DOWN AND TRUCKS RUN OVER IT.
11:54:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:54:29AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS LORRAINE PARRINO.
11:54:33AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:54:39AM >> I'M SORRY.
11:54:39AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:54:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:54:41AM GO AHEAD.
11:54:41AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:54:44AM >> LORRAINE PARRINO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY
11:54:47AM GROUP.
11:54:48AM I REALLY WASN'T PLANNING TO SPEAK TWICE.
11:54:51AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THIS TREE
11:54:55AM WORKSHOP AND THIS CONVERSATION.
11:54:58AM I'M HEARTENED BY ALL THE SOLUTIONS THAT THE STAFF HAS COME
11:55:01AM UP WITH.
11:55:02AM I THINK WE SHOULD GO FURTHER.
11:55:03AM WE SHOULD LICENSE THE TREE CUTTERS, AS I SAID, BROWARD
11:55:06AM COUNTY LICENSES THEIRS BECAUSE THEIR TREE CANOPY GOT SO LOW.
11:55:12AM A LOT OF THESE TREE CUTTERS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
11:55:16AM THEY PRUNE TREES IMPROPERLY.
11:55:18AM THE TREE A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER BECOMES DANGEROUS OR
11:55:22AM UNSTABLE AND HAS TO BE REMOVED.
11:55:24AM THAT HAPPENED IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
11:55:27AM THE HOMEOWNER DID NOT WANT TO REMOVE THE TREE, BUT THE TREE
11:55:32AM CUTTERS HAD DAMAGED IT.
11:55:33AM SO THE GRAND OAK HAD TO BE REMOVED.
11:55:36AM THE TREE HOT LINE, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT.
11:55:40AM I LOVE WHAT STEPHEN POYNOR SAID.
11:55:43AM THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES THAT TREES CAN BE PLANTED.
11:55:46AM THE CITY NEEDS TO WORK WITH THAN, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF
11:55:52AM TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED BECAUSE OF THIS $1
11:55:55AM MILLION THAT TAMPA GOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
11:55:58AM SO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
11:56:00AM WORK WITH THAN.
11:56:02AM PLANT MORE TREES.
11:56:04AM WE HAVE A BRUTAL SUMMER COMING UP.
11:56:06AM I UNDERSTAND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EVEN HOTTER THAN IT WAS
11:56:08AM LAST YEAR, WHICH LAST YEAR BROKE A RECORD FOR HEAT, THE HEAT
11:56:13AM INDEX, BECAUSE WE'VE LOST SO MANY TREES.
11:56:15AM YEAH, WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND WORK WITH TTAG.
11:56:21AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT'S GOING
11:56:27AM ON.
11:56:28AM THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
11:56:29AM THANK YOU.
11:56:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:56:31AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:56:33AM WOULD ANY COUNCIL MEMBER LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
11:56:35AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:56:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
11:56:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:56:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO WORK ON SOME MOTIONS.
11:56:46AM I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY MOTIONS RIGHT NOW.
11:56:48AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE POSSIBILITY OF
11:56:52AM LICENSING TREE CUTTERS.
11:56:55AM IT'S A STATE THING.
11:56:57AM BUT THEN HOW CAN A COUNTY DO IT?
11:57:04AM >> THEY DON'T.
11:57:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY DON'T.
11:57:05AM IF WE CAN'T LICENSE TREE CUTTERS, DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE AN
11:57:10AM UPDATE ON THE TREE HOT LINE.
11:57:12AM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, IF FOLKS ARE REALLY HAVING TROUBLE
11:57:16AM REACHING THE TREE HOT LINE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE
11:57:20AM NEED TO --
11:57:21AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I CAN ANSWER THAT NOW.
11:57:23AM ABBYE FEELEY.
11:57:24AM JC IS HERE.
11:57:25AM MARY DANIELLE BRYSON IS HERE ALSO.
11:57:28AM I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF -- HOW DO I WANT TO SAY IT?
11:57:34AM I THINK THE EXPECTATION IS WHEN YOU CALL THE TREE HOT LINE,
11:57:37AM OUR TEAM IS RUNNING OUT AND JUMPING IN FRONT OF THE TREE.
11:57:40AM I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.
11:57:42AM AND THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOR SHOULD THAT BE THE
11:57:45AM EXPECTATION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.
11:57:47AM THAT HAS NEVER BEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
11:57:50AM WHEN THE TREE HOT LINE IS CALLED AND A PROPERTY IS REPORTED,
11:57:53AM WE THEN GO OUT THERE.
11:57:54AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE REALITY OF THIS IS IT'S IRREPARABLE
11:57:59AM DAMAGE.
11:58:00AM I'VE HAD IT HAPPEN.
11:58:02AM I'M A CITIZEN IN THE CITY.
11:58:03AM HAD THIS HAPPEN ON A PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM
11:58:06AM MY HOUSE WHERE SOMEBODY STARTED TAKING DOWN A TREE.
11:58:09AM WE CAN'T THEN STOP THAT.
11:58:11AM WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT PERSON IS THEN CITED, AND THE CITATION
11:58:15AM THEN HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:58:17AM I HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND ASKED WHAT IS
11:58:22AM THEIR PROTOCOL?
11:58:23AM DO THEY HAVE A TREE HOT LINE? DO THEY GO OUT THERE?
11:58:27AM CLEARLY WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT A CITY EMPLOYEE IN BETWEEN A
11:58:30AM CHAIN SAW AND A TREE.
11:58:32AM IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.
11:58:33AM IF THAT IS WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS, I WANT TO BE ON THE
11:58:37AM RECORD THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:58:40AM BUT WHEN A COMPLAINT IS CALLED IN, WE DO THEN GO OUT.
11:58:44AM WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY COMPLIANCE TEAM.
11:58:48AM WE JUST ARE HIRING ANOTHER FOREST EXAMINER UNDER THAT.
11:58:55AM WE HAVE GROWN NATURAL RESOURCES FROM WHAT USED TO BE ONE
11:58:59AM DIVISION OF FIVE TO NOW NINE THAT IS INTEGRATED INTO THE
11:59:04AM DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
11:59:06AM AND WE BELIEVE IT'S WORKING MORE EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:59:10AM ONE SET THAT ARE REVIEWING PLANS.
11:59:12AM WE HAVE ONE SET THAT GOES OUT.
11:59:13AM WE HAVE ONE SET THAT DOES THE INSPECTIONS.
11:59:15AM WE HAVE ONE SET THAT DOES THE ZONINGS AND VARIANCES, WHERE
11:59:19AM IT USED TO BE ONE TEAM AND ONE PERSON WAS DOING SIX OR EIGHT
11:59:22AM DIFFERENT THINGS AND JUMPING AROUND ALL DAY LONG TO GO OUT
11:59:25AM AND DO AN INSPECTION, COME BACK AND DO VRB REVIEW, THEN DO
11:59:30AM SOMETHING ELSE, A PLAN REVIEW.
11:59:31AM WE NOW HAVE DEDICATED TO THAT ON OUR TEAM.
11:59:35AM WE ARE LOOKING AT CONTINUING TO IMPROVE THE HOTLINE.
11:59:41AM I DON'T KNOW IF JC WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT NOW.
11:59:44AM I DID SEE HIM COME UP.
11:59:45AM WE ARE DEDICATED TO PROVIDING THAT SERVICE IN A MEANINGFUL
11:59:48AM WAY.
11:59:49AM I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR, IF YOU CALL IN, WE ARE NOT THEN
11:59:52AM JUMPING OUT THERE AND UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY THE DAMAGE IS
11:59:55AM DONE.
11:59:59AM >>JC HUDGISON: CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.
12:00:00PM YEAH, WHEN WE INITIALLY PUT THE TREE HOT LINE TOGETHER, WE
12:00:04PM KNEW WE WERE GETTING INUNDATED WITH CALLS.
12:00:07PM THE THOUGHT WAS TO TRY TO HAVE A SEPARATE SERVICE TO KIND OF
12:00:10PM HELP US WITH THAT.
12:00:11PM WE'VE HEARD ALL THE COMPLAINTS.
12:00:13PM THE INTENT IS TO MOVE THE HOT LINE INTO OUR TAMPA CONNECT
12:00:16PM PROGRAM SO THEN THEREFORE IT CAN BE TRACKED THE WAY ALL OUR
12:00:20PM OTHER COMPLAINTS ARE BEING TRACKED.
12:00:21PM UPLOAD PHOTOS, YOU CAN DO ALL OF THAT.
12:00:23PM A PART OF THE TAMPA CONNECT PART THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE
12:00:26PM DIFFICULT IS WHEN YOU KIND OF ANOTHER STATE STATUTE, YOU
12:00:30PM CAN'T BE ANONYMOUS.
12:00:31PM YOU HAVE TO THEN MAKE SURE YOU SUBMIT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS
12:00:33PM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:00:34PM TRYING TO -- WE'RE WORKING WITH T AND I.
12:00:37PM I MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK.
12:00:39PM EVENTUALLY WILL SUNSET THE HOT LINE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT
12:00:42PM WORKING AS WE THOUGHT.
12:00:43PM WHEN IT LOOPS BACK AND THERE ARE CONNECTIONS AND CALLING
12:00:47PM THIS PERSON AND SENDS YOU BACK IN THE LOOP, WE'RE AWARE OF
12:00:49PM THAT.
12:00:50PM THE INTENT IS TO MOVE IT TO THE TAMPA CONNECT PROGRAM THAT
12:00:52PM THE CITY IS ALREADY USING AND INTEGRATE THE COMPLAINTS INTO
12:00:56PM THERE.
12:00:56PM THEN AT LEAST IT'S GOING TO A PERSON HERE AT THE CITY
12:00:59PM INSTEAD OF GOING TO AN ANSWERING SERVICE AND THEN RELAYED
12:01:02PM BACK TO US.
12:01:03PM WE WERE FIGURING THAT IS TOO MUCH TIME BETWEEN WHEN THOSE
12:01:06PM ARE HAPPENING.
12:01:07PM COMES THROUGH TAMPA CONNECT, IMMEDIATELY GETS ASSIGNED TO A
12:01:10PM PERSON AND WE CAN GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
12:01:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
12:01:17PM EFFICIENCIES.
12:01:17PM WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND, AS YOU'RE BRINGING THIS UP IS TO
12:01:22PM PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE EXPECTATIONS, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE
12:01:26PM GOING TO THE WEBSITE OR IF THEY ARE USING THE MOBILE, THIS
12:01:29PM IS NOT -- WE WON'T STOP RIGHT AWAY, BUT WE WILL GET YOUR
12:01:34PM INFORMATION.
12:01:34PM JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF -- LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR PEOPLE TO
12:01:41PM MANAGE SOME EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE IF WE GET
12:01:48PM -- AND JUST WORK ON THE COMMUNICATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK IF
12:01:51PM WE GET A TELEVISION STORY ABOUT TAKING DOWN A TREE AND THEY
12:01:55PM GET A $15,000 FINE, THAT'S GOING TO BE HUGE.
12:01:57PM AND THAT WILL DO A LOT OF THE WORK FOR US.
12:02:01PM I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.
12:02:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE MORE?
12:02:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR WHIT OR ANYONE ELSE
12:02:12PM WHO IS DOING JUST THE TREE WORK ITSELF.
12:02:15PM THE ONE THING WE DID NOT DISCUSS TODAY, AND I WAS JUST
12:02:20PM THINKING AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M REDOING ANOTHER PART OF
12:02:23PM MY YARD.
12:02:24PM TOOK OUT GRASS AND PUTTING IN ANOTHER POLLINATOR GARDEN.
12:02:28PM ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS MY HUSBAND AND I WORKED ON YESTERDAY
12:02:30PM WAS DIGGING A GIANT HOLE FOR THE AVOCADO TREE GOING IN AND
12:02:35PM PLANTED A MANGO TREE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE YARD.
12:02:38PM THOSE WILL BE SHADE TREES.
12:02:40PM AND THEY ARE PROVIDING HABITATS ALREADY FOR BIRDS AND
12:02:45PM BUTTERFLIES AND BEES AND BATS THAT WE HAVE ALL OVER OUR
12:02:48PM YARD.
12:02:49PM WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT FRUIT TREES, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE
12:02:55PM RIGHT-OF-WAYS, ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK THAT'S PERFECTLY
12:02:58PM REASONABLE, BUT EVEN PART OF OUR TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM.
12:03:02PM >>WHIT REMER: SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER.
12:03:06PM THIS YEAR FOR THE TREE GIVEAWAY, WE INTRODUCED FRUIT TREES
12:03:09PM FOR THE FIRST TIME.
12:03:10PM VERY POPULAR, HUCKLEBERRY -- RED MULBERRY, WHICH I'M SURE
12:03:14PM WILL WORK WELL IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS WHEN THE MULBERRIES
12:03:18PM START DROPPING ON THEIR BEAUTIFUL DRIVEWAYS AND STAINING
12:03:21PM THEM, MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
12:03:24PM WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN MINDED TO INCLUDING FRUIT TREES IN THE
12:03:27PM DIVERSITY OF TREES WE'RE PLANNING.
12:03:28PM GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT'S NOT BEST
12:03:32PM PRACTICE TO PLANT FRUIT TREES ON PUBLIC RIGHTS-OF-WAY
12:03:35PM BECAUSE THE FRUITS CAN ROT AND DROP AND GET SMASHED AND YOU
12:03:40PM GET RODENTS AND COMPLAINTS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE ARE
12:03:43PM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FRUIT TREE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
12:03:46PM AS PART OF THE GIVEAWAY, WHEN PUTTING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, I
12:03:49PM THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY A GREAT IDEA.
12:03:51PM WE'LL CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE THOSE INTO THE GIVEAWAY.
12:03:54PM WHEN WE LAUNCH THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD BASED PLANTING PROGRAM
12:03:57PM WHICH WE'RE TENTATIVELY CALLING PLANT YOUR HEART OUT, KIND
12:04:00PM OF MIMICKED OFF PAINT YOUR HEART OUT, WHERE WE WORK WITH
12:04:03PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, LIKE MS. POYNOR'S TO SURVEY
12:04:06PM PLACES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED TO
12:04:10PM PLANT TREES.
12:04:11PM THE CITY WILL PURCHASE THOSE TREES.
12:04:13PM WE'LL USE THE GREEN TEAM AND THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:04:16PM TO PUT THOSE TREES IN.
12:04:18PM THAT WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FRUIT
12:04:21PM TREES.
12:04:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:04:23PM FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT FRUIT TREES, AS LONG AS
12:04:27PM YOU'VE GOT SOME FERAL CATS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU ARE
12:04:32PM PRETTY GOOD TO GO.
12:04:33PM WE HAVE A LOT OF FRUIT TREES IN OUR YARD, AND THE FERAL CATS
12:04:36PM KEEP THE RATS AWAY.
12:04:37PM THEY DO KILL THE BIRDS, BUT THEY ALSO KILL THE RATS.
12:04:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU MIND IF I GIVE YOU A CALL LATER
12:04:47PM THIS AFTERNOON?
12:04:49PM >>WHIT REMER: I'D LOVE FOR NOTHING MORE.
12:04:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPARATE TOPIC, BUT SINCE YOU ARE HERE.
12:04:54PM ANYBODY ELSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL KICK OFF THE LAST
12:04:58PM WORKSHOP ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 6.
12:05:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IT'S LUNCHTIME AND I THINK WE WOULD
12:05:03PM LIKE TO GO OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
12:05:06PM THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
12:05:07PM WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
12:05:10PM TALK ABOUT IT AND WE'VE GOT EXPERTISE AND FOLKS IN THE
12:05:13PM COMMUNITY WHO ARE HERE.
12:05:14PM I'VE ALSO SPOKEN TO STAFF.
12:05:16PM MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE LET PUBLIC COMMENT GO FIRST AND WE
12:05:20PM CAN CONTROL HOW LONG WE SPEAK, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
12:05:23PM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
12:05:24PM MY RECOMMENDATION IS LET THE PUBLIC GO FIRST AND GAUGE HOW
12:05:27PM MUCH WE WANT TO SPEAK AFTERWARDS.
12:05:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
12:05:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHY WE'RE
12:05:35PM DOING IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE -- DO WE HAVE A
12:05:38PM PRESENTATION?
12:05:42PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
12:05:44PM SO THE MOTION WAS NOT FOR STAFF TO APPEAR, BUT IT WAS
12:05:47PM BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE A BRIEF
12:05:51PM PRESENTATION.
12:05:51PM ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF REGULATING TURF, WHAT WE'VE
12:06:00PM DONE, WHO WE HAVE MET WITH.
12:06:01PM IT'S ABOUT SIX SLIDES.
12:06:03PM IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF, THAT'S FINE TOO BUT
12:06:08PM WE'RE PREPARED IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
12:06:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: ABBYE, I JUST REALIZED, YOU CALLED ME AND
12:06:16PM LEFT A MESSAGE.
12:06:17PM I FORGOT TO CALL YOU BACK.
12:06:19PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:06:23PM THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN TALKING TO STAFF ABOUT
12:06:26PM THIS.
12:06:26PM I THINK AFTER THE FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY SPEAK, THEN ABBYE
12:06:31PM CAN GO THROUGH.
12:06:32PM I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL.
12:06:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] -- IF NOT, WE'LL LISTEN TO
12:06:46PM THEM AGAIN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'LL SAY.
12:06:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT -- ALL RIGHT.
12:06:53PM KICK IT OFF.
12:07:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
12:07:15PM GROWTH.
12:07:15PM WITH ME JC HUDGISON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.
12:07:19PM WE JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN
12:07:24PM IN THE PAST TWO YEARS ON WORKING ON THE MATTER OF TURF.
12:07:30PM THERE HAS BEEN A LARGE INCREASE IN THE INSTALLATION OF TURF,
12:07:33PM BOTH ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:07:36PM THIS HAS BEEN PREDOMINANTLY ON RESIDENTIAL, NOT SO MUCH
12:07:40PM COMMERCIAL.
12:07:40PM AND ISSUES WERE ARISING SUCH AS RUNOFF, PONDING, ENCROACHING
12:07:45PM ON TREES.
12:07:46PM LIKE I MENTIONED, INSTALLATION IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:07:49PM AND I LOOKED AT MANY BEST PRACTICES, WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
12:07:54PM ARE DOING, HOW THEY ARE HANDLING IT, AND REALLY OUR GOAL IS
12:07:58PM TO CREATE A BALANCED AND STANDARDIZED PROCESS TO ENSURE
12:08:03PM ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY WHILE MINIMIZING ADVERSE
12:08:06PM IMPACTS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
12:08:09PM BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WHEN LARGE SWATHES ARE BEING
12:08:13PM PLACED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT IS TAKING A TOLL ON THE
12:08:16PM STORMWATER SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S SHEET FLOWING OFF AND SOME OF
12:08:20PM IT WAS NOT PERMEABLE.
12:08:22PM REALLY, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DIVISION DOES NOT WANT TO MANAGE
12:08:28PM TURF IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:08:29PM WHAT DID WE DO?
12:08:33PM WE GOT TOGETHER, WE HAD POLICY DISCUSSIONS INTERNAL.
12:08:36PM STORMWATER, NATURAL RESOURCES, MOBILITY, CONSTRUCTION
12:08:39PM SERVICES, WHIT'S TEAM, AND WE LOOKED AT PERMEABILITY, IMPACT
12:08:43PM ON THE SYSTEM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE LANDSCAPE CODE.
12:08:46PM RIGHT NOW OUR LANDSCAPE CODE SAYS 25% NATURAL.
12:08:50PM IT DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE TURF AS AN ALLOWABLE SURFACE WITHIN
12:08:54PM THAT.
12:08:55PM EVEN THOUGH SOME OF OUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ARE PUTTING
12:08:59PM TURF, THEY STILL SHOULD BE PROVIDING 25% GREEN.
12:09:02PM WE LOOKED AT THE PLACEMENT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:09:05PM WHAT WE WOULD DO IF WE PERMITTED WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS
12:09:08PM WERE DOING, I DID BRING WITH ME AND I HAVE IF ANYBODY IS
12:09:11PM INTERESTED, SOME SHEETS ON WHO WE LOOKED AT, WHAT THEY ARE
12:09:15PM DOING, HOW THEY ARE DOING IT, WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE.
12:09:18PM WE WORKED WITH VIK BHIDE, ALEX AWAD TO COME UP WITH SOME
12:09:26PM CONSIDERATIONS.
12:09:27PM THEN WE HAD INDUSTRY DISCUSSIONS, MANY OF THEM.
12:09:30PM I THINK MANY OF THE FOLKS WE TALKED WITH ARE HERE TODAY,
12:09:33PM WHICH WILL BE GREAT, BUT WE WORKED TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING
12:09:37PM OF WHAT NEW STANDARDS WERE, WHAT THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES WERE,
12:09:40PM WHAT THE MATERIALS WERE, HOW INSTALLING, UNDERLAYMENT, IS IT
12:09:45PM PERVIOUS, NOT PERVIOUS?
12:09:46PM WHAT ARE THE SITE CONDITIONS?
12:09:50PM ARE THEY RE-GRADING WHERE A SITE IS NOW HAVING AN ADVERSE
12:09:54PM IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBOR.
12:09:55PM WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING OUT OF THAT IS STORMWATER HIRED AN
12:10:00PM ENGINEER TO ACTUALLY GO OUT TO A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS THAT
12:10:04PM ALREADY HAVE IT IN PLACE, LOOK AT HOW THEY DID IT.
12:10:07PM LOOK AT WHAT THE UNDERLAYMENT WAS.
12:10:10PM AND IT ALLOWED US TO DEVELOP WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A PERMEABLE
12:10:15PM STANDARD.
12:10:15PM SO IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN THE WAY THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S
12:10:20PM CONSIDERED PERMEABLE WHICH I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE OF
12:10:24PM THE 50% RULE, RIGHT?
12:10:26PM YOU CAN'T COVER MORE THAN 50% OF YOUR LOT UNTIL YOU ARE
12:10:30PM REQUIRED TO RETAIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER ON YOUR
12:10:33PM PROPERTY.
12:10:34PM BUT WITH THIS PERMEABLE STANDARD THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
12:10:39PM WORK WITH ALEX AND HIS TEAM ON IN STORMWATER, THEY DO
12:10:42PM CONSIDER IT PERMEABLE, SO IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE 50%.
12:10:46PM WE WORKED OUT A STANDARD ON THAT, AND THEN WE ACTUALLY DID
12:10:51PM COME UP WITH A PERMIT TYPE.
12:10:55PM IT IS A MISCELLANEOUS PERMIT AS BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY.
12:10:59PM THE LANDSCAPE COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE NOT LICENSED
12:11:03PM BY THE STATE.
12:11:05PM SO UNLIKE OTHER PERMITS WHERE YOU NEED A GC OR A LICENSED
12:11:09PM INDIVIDUAL TO PULL THAT, WE ARE DOING THIS UNDER A
12:11:12PM MISCELLANEOUS PERMIT.
12:11:13PM FAST PASS, SINGLE INSPECTION, AND WE WORKED WITH THE GROUPS
12:11:22PM TO COME UP WITH WHAT WAS THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS ABLE TO
12:11:26PM BE PROVIDED IN A MEANINGFUL WAY SO THAT WE COULD ENSURE THAT
12:11:29PM IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
12:11:31PM WE ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
12:11:42PM LASTLY, WE CAME UP WITH SOME PERMITTING PARAMETERS.
12:11:43PM IT'S NOT TO BE INSTALLED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:11:46PM AREAS UNDER 150 SQUARE FEET ARE EXEMPT.
12:11:48PM IF YOU ARE DOING A 10 BY 15 AREA OR LESS, YOU DON'T NEED TO
12:11:51PM PERMIT IT.
12:11:51PM AND THEN WE WILL NOT DO RETROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT ON
12:11:54PM INSTALLATIONS THAT WERE DONE PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE,
12:11:58PM WHICH IS WHAT WE FOUND IN MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
12:12:01PM UNLIKE ST. PETE BEACH JUST PASSED NO TURF AND THEN THEY WENT
12:12:04PM OUT AND HAD EVERYBODY PULL UP THE TURF THAT WAS PUT IN OUT
12:12:07PM THERE.
12:12:08PM DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS ARE TAKING DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON
12:12:11PM THIS.
12:12:12PM PRIOR TO THE PERMITTING TAKING EFFECT ON JANUARY 1, WE DID
12:12:17PM DO TWO WORKSHOPS OUT AT HANNA WITH INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES,
12:12:21PM AND THEN WE HAVE COMMITTED THAT IN SIX MONTHS WE ARE GOING
12:12:26PM TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING, WHAT'S GOING ON,
12:12:31PM WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM HERE, IS THIS WORKING?
12:12:33PM THAT IS OUR BRIEF PRESENTATION VERY QUICKLY.
12:12:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS VERY GOOD AND BRIEF.
12:12:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:45PM AT THIS TIME, WE WON'T TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
12:12:48PM COUNCIL.
12:12:48PM WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT SO WE CAN HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC
12:12:50PM FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO DISCUSSION.
12:12:52PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:12:52PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI, AGAIN, THE BUILDERS
12:12:54PM ASSOCIATION WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF EXTENSIVELY, AND WE
12:12:58PM WERE INVOLVED WITH ALL OF THOSE TESTS AND STUDIES THAT
12:13:00PM RESULTED IN STORMWATER INDICATING THAT IT WAS A HUNDRED
12:13:05PM PERCENT PERVIOUS.
12:13:06PM THE WESTERN STATES -- I SENT YOU ALL AN E-MAIL.
12:13:10PM IT IS AN ATTACHMENT, SO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THAT I'M GOING
12:13:12PM TO SAY TO YOU.
12:13:13PM THIS DIAGRAM HERE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE COST SAVINGS.
12:13:26PM AS I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE INDUSTRY THAT 50% OF THE WATER
12:13:29PM UTILIZATION IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS OUTSIDE OF THE HOME.
12:13:35PM THE NORMAL CONSUMPTION OR THE SAVINGS OF WATER CONSUMPTION
12:13:41PM FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE IS ABOUT 25,000 GALLONS IN A YEAR.
12:13:46PM SO THESE WESTERN STATES, TEXAS, ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO,
12:13:53PM CALIFORNIA, UTAH, COLORADO, AND OTHERS.
12:13:55PM THERE ARE MORE.
12:13:56PM HAVE STARTED UTILIZING OR ALLOWING MORE ARTIFICIAL TURF TO
12:14:01PM BE UTILIZED AS A COST SAVINGS AND A WATER SAVINGS.
12:14:06PM IT ALSO STOPS THE PESTICIDES AND FERTILIZERS FROM GOING INTO
12:14:12PM THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
12:14:13PM THIS DIAGRAM ALSO WAS SENT TO YOU BY E-MAIL AS BASICALLY THE
12:14:22PM BENEFITS OF ARTIFICIAL TURF.
12:14:23PM ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE STILL HAVE PENDING AND ABBYE
12:14:27PM MENTIONED IT, WAS NATURAL RESOURCES.
12:14:29PM IT'S NOT THE COVERAGE OF THE LOT SO MUCH AS IT IS THE
12:14:34PM SEPARATION FROM TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:14:37PM SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE MIGHT ASK COUNCIL TO DO IS TO MAKE A
12:14:42PM MOTION TO EXAMINE THAT ISSUE.
12:14:44PM IT WOULD REQUIRE A TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THAT AND TO
12:14:47PM CHANGE HOW ARTIFICIAL TURF IS TREATED AS A COMPONENT OF A
12:14:51PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
12:14:52PM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL.
12:14:56PM MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE USED FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS ARE
12:15:00PM NOW CONVERTING TO ARTIFICIAL TURF.
12:15:02PM THOSE ARE LARGE INSTALLATIONS.
12:15:04PM AS YOU KNOW, IT IS AN ALL-PURPOSE, ALL-WEATHER SURFACE
12:15:09PM THAT'S UTILIZED FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES.
12:15:13PM PLAYGROUNDS.
12:15:14PM THE CITY IS USING RUBBERIZED COMPONENTS AS WELL AS
12:15:17PM ARTIFICIAL TURF.
12:15:18PM ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT'S GOING IN NOW FOR ONE OF THE
12:15:23PM SCHOOLS IS AN UNDERDRAIN SYSTEM WITH COLLECTION TANKS.
12:15:27PM THE WATER IS BEING USED FOR IRRIGATION FOR THE PLANTS THAT
12:15:31PM NEED IRRIGATION.
12:15:32PM I'VE GIVEN YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION.
12:15:36PM I DON'T HAVE THE THREE MINUTES TO GO OVER ALL OF IT, BUT IT
12:15:39PM WAS E-MAILED ALL TO YOU WITH THE BACKUP MATERIAL INCLUDING
12:15:43PM THE SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION ON THE STUDY OF TURF AND THAT IT
12:15:48PM IS SAFE AND DOES NOT CREATE HEAT SPOTS.
12:15:53PM IT'S NOT CONTAMINATING, AND IT IS A SAFE ALTERNATIVE.
12:15:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:15:57PM NEXT SPEAKER, YES, MA'AM, MS. STEVENS.
12:16:01PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:16:03PM OKAY.
12:16:07PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:16:09PM >> CHRIS POWELL.
12:16:10PM OWNER OF FOREVER LAWN IN TAMPA BAY.
12:16:12PM ALSO OWN FOREVER LAWN JACKSONVILLE AND AT ONE TIME OWNED
12:16:15PM FOREVER LAWN MIAMI AND NAPLES.
12:16:18PM I HAD A 16-YEAR CAREER IN SYNTHETIC GRASS IN TAMPA.
12:16:24PM WE HAVE ABOUT 40 EMPLOYEES.
12:16:25PM WE'RE HEADQUARTERED RIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:16:30PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, HONESTLY.
12:16:32PM I WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT.
12:16:34PM I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU MAKE AND WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR
12:16:37PM CITY.
12:16:37PM I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1995 AND HAD SEVERAL BUSINESSES IN
12:16:41PM THAT TIME.
12:16:41PM I SEE MYSELF AS AN ACTIVE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE
12:16:46PM ENJOYED SEEING THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY AS A WHOLE
12:16:50PM GROW.
12:16:50PM WE'VE BENEFITED FROM THAT.
12:16:52PM OUR COMPANY HAS GROWN RIGHT ALONGSIDE THAT, SO THE PEOPLE
12:16:55PM THAT WORK IN OUR COMPANY ARE FROM OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS, HAVE
12:16:59PM GROWN UP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, OUR DEALERSHIP AND THE
12:17:03PM FOREVER LAWN WORLD, 92 FOREVER LAWN DEALERS AROUND NORTH
12:17:05PM AMERICA.
12:17:07PM TAMPA BAY IS THE LARGEST OF THOSE DEALERSHIPS.
12:17:09PM WE DO A LOT.
12:17:11PM A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO EMPHASIZE.
12:17:14PM THERE ARE SIX COMPANIES HERE THAT ARE ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF
12:17:17PM COMPANIES.
12:17:18PM I THINK COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE PROBABLY 70 PLUS YEARS IN THE
12:17:22PM INDUSTRY.
12:17:23PM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES HERE IN THE ROOM THAT WANT
12:17:27PM TO BE A RESOURCE FOR YOU GUYS.
12:17:29PM I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW JC AND THE CITY STAFF OVER THE LAST 18
12:17:33PM MONTHS.
12:17:33PM WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH
12:17:36PM STANDARDS THAT MAKE SENSE.
12:17:38PM AND I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT RESPONSIBLY.
12:17:41PM SOMETHING I WANTED TO DISPEL A LITTLE BIT, THERE IS A LOT OF
12:17:44PM GRAND STATEMENTS MADE ABOUT ARTIFICIAL TURF.
12:17:48PM MANY OF THEM ARE NOT TRUE.
12:17:50PM SO WHEN YOU HEAR THAT IT IS IMPERMEABLE, STEVE MENTIONED THE
12:17:54PM ONE.
12:17:55PM WE'RE DOING THE FIELD OUT AT MANHATTAN K-8.
12:17:58PM IT IS THE NEW SCHOOL GOING IN.
12:17:59PM AND LITERALLY THE TURF IS OVER A STONE BASE AND UNDERNEATH
12:18:04PM THAT THERE'S MASSIVE RAIN COLLECTION TANKS.
12:18:07PM THEY ARE LIKE BUS-SIZED TANKS.
12:18:10PM ALL OF THAT WATER GOES THROUGH THE TURF, GOES THROUGH THE
12:18:12PM STONE, IS CAPTURED IN THE TANKS FOR REUSE ON THE PROPERTY.
12:18:17PM SO IT WILL BE USED FOR ALL THE LANDSCAPE AND EVERYTHING.
12:18:19PM IF IT WEREN'T PERMEABLE, YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT.
12:18:23PM NO ENGINEER WOULD SIGN OFF ON THAT.
12:18:26PM ANOTHER PROJECT WE'VE DONE, THE CHILDREN'S CANCER CENTER.
12:18:28PM WE DID THE PLAYGROUND FOR THEM.
12:18:30PM IF THERE WERE HEALTH CONCERNS, DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY
12:18:33PM WOULDN'T DO THEIR ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE TURF
12:18:37PM AND WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THAT ARE TO PUT IT IN THE CHILDREN'S
12:18:40PM CANCER CENTER?
12:18:41PM SO A COUPLE OF THE RESOURCES I WANT TO THROW OUT TO YOU GUYS
12:18:44PM IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THEM, SYNTHETIC TURF COUNCIL IS THE
12:18:47PM INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION FOR THE SYNTHETIC TURF INDUSTRY.
12:18:51PM IT'S NOT JUST TURF COMPANIES.
12:18:53PM IT'S ARCHITECTS.
12:18:55PM THERE ARE ARBORISTS IN IT.
12:18:58PM THERE ARE MANUFACTURERS.
12:18:59PM THERE ARE COMMUNITY LEADERS.
12:19:01PM THERE'S TESTING AGENCIES.
12:19:02PM IT'S A COMMUNITY AROUND THE RESPONSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION OF
12:19:07PM SYNTHETIC GRASS.
12:19:09PM THEY HAVE RESEARCH THAT DATES 50 YEARS.
12:19:12PM THIS IS NOT A NEW PRODUCT.
12:19:14PM SO IN 50 YEARS, THERE IS A LOT THAT'S BEEN -- FOR THAT.
12:19:18PM THE SYNTHETIC TURF COUNCIL IS SOMETHING I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS
12:19:21PM TO LOOK TO.
12:19:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:19:23PM YES, MA'AM.
12:19:24PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:19:25PM >> HI.
12:19:25PM NANCY STEVENS.
12:19:27PM TAMPA BAY SIERRA CLUB.
12:19:28PM I SENT YOU EARLIER A MEMO FROM THE AGENCY -- I SENT YOU
12:19:35PM EARLIER A MEMO FROM THE AGENCY ON BAY MANAGEMENT THAT HAD --
12:19:39PM THAT THEY HAD CONTRACTED TO -- THAT DOES A SURVEY OF THE
12:19:42PM ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF AND ALSO SURVEY
12:19:46PM SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS.
12:19:47PM I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION.
12:19:48PM IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY IS MAKING PROGRESS AND MAKING
12:19:50PM SENSIBLE REGULATIONS ABOUT USING IT, WHICH IS WHAT I WANTED
12:19:53PM TO SPEAK TO TODAY.
12:19:55PM SENSIBLE REGULATIONS.
12:19:56PM ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR NATURAL GRASS.
12:19:59PM IT'S A MAN-MADE SUBSTANCE.
12:20:02PM IT HAS ISSUES.
12:20:06PM IT'S PLASTIC.
12:20:06PM IT HAS CHEMICALS.
12:20:09PM IT'S NOT NATURAL.
12:20:10PM SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD NEVER BE A CONSIDERATION OF
12:20:14PM ALLOWING IT TO SUBSTITUTE FOR NATURAL GRASS.
12:20:17PM YOU CAN PUT ROCKS AND PAINT THEM GREEN IF THEY WANT
12:20:21PM SOMETHING GREEN.
12:20:21PM BUT THAT IS A NATURAL SOLUTION.
12:20:23PM ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT.
12:20:25PM SOME OF THE REASONS, IN THE MEMO I SENT YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT
12:20:29PM PERMEABILITY AND IF THE CITY CAN INSPECT AND GUARANTEE AN
12:20:35PM IMPLEMENTATION THAT IS PERMEABLE, THAT MAYBE CAN BE
12:20:38PM RECTIFIED, BUT HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND LAST OVER THE
12:20:41PM YEARS.
12:20:41PM MAKE SURE IT'S GOING TO LAST, NOT GET CLOGGED UP AFTER A FEW
12:20:45PM YEARS.
12:20:45PM STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT IT ABSORBS HEAT AND MUCH HOTTER THAN
12:20:52PM REGULAR TURF.
12:20:53PM IT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE ECOLOGICAL SYSTEM.
12:20:59PM YOU HAVE PLASTIC ON ROCKS THAT'S NOT NATURAL.
12:21:02PM A GRASS SYSTEM, YOU HAVE MACRO ORGANIZE -- MICROORGANISMS
12:21:07PM THAT WOULD BREAK DOWN THINGS LIKE IN A DOG PARK.
12:21:11PM IF DOGS DO THEIR DUTY ON THE NATURAL GRASS AND IT'S NOT
12:21:15PM PICKED UP PROPERLY, IT WILL GET BROKEN DOWN, GO THROUGH THE
12:21:18PM GRASS AND THE MICROORGANISMS WILL CLEAN IT UP BEFORE IT GOES
12:21:22PM INTO THE WATERWAY.
12:21:23PM WE HAVE DOG PARKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT ARE ARTIFICIAL
12:21:25PM GRASS.
12:21:26PM THEY HOSE THEM DOWN.
12:21:30PM WHERE DO THOSE EXCRETIONS GO?
12:21:31PM DIRECTLY INTO THE STORM SYSTEM WITHOUT BEING BROKEN DOWN BY
12:21:36PM ORGANISMS.
12:21:37PM YOU ARE POLLUTING THE WATERWAYS BY USING NATURAL GRASS.
12:21:43PM GLAD TO HEAR IT WON'T BE USED IN RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
12:21:45PM SAME THING, YOU NEED NATURAL SYSTEMS TO HELP FILTER VARIOUS
12:21:52PM NATURAL COMPONENTS, LIKE LEAFS EVEN.
12:21:54PM THOSE WILL ALSO GET WASHED OUT.
12:21:56PM FINALLY, THERE ARE HARMFUL CHEMICALS IN THE ARTIFICIAL TURF,
12:22:02PM NOT ONLY FOR WHEN IT IS INSTALLED BUT FOREVER.
12:22:06PM WHEN IT GETS PULLED OUT, IT HAS TO GO INTO A LANDFILL AND BE
12:22:09PM IN THE LANDFILL FOREVER.
12:22:13PM I'M GLAD TO SEE REGULATIONS ARE BEING MADE AND CONTINUE THE
12:22:16PM WORK AND GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU TO PROVIDE SOME MORE INPUT.
12:22:20PM THANK YOU.
12:22:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:22:21PM YES, MA'AM.
12:22:22PM GOOD MORNING.
12:22:23PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:22:26PM >> CHIMERA APSELL.
12:22:28PM I CAME HERE A LITTLE LATE AND FOUND OUT UNTIL NOT LONG AGO
12:22:34PM THAT ITEM 7 WAS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD YET AGAIN.
12:22:37PM NOT GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT.
12:22:39PM VERY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT HAS BEEN ONCE AGAIN KICKED
12:22:42PM DOWN THE ROAD.
12:22:44PM THE WAY THAT ELECTIONS ARE RUN IN TAMPA LEADS TO -- THE
12:22:51PM SYSTEM JUST DOES NOT WORK.
12:22:53PM IT PROTECTS THE STATUS QUO.
12:22:54PM YOU CLEARLY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING IT.
12:22:57PM I THINK YOU MUST ALL BE HAPPY WITH BEING ELECTED BY VERY
12:23:01PM TEENY PERCENT OF THE ACTUAL ELECTED VOTERS IN THE CITY OF
12:23:04PM TAMPA.
12:23:05PM IT HAS CONSEQUENCES FOR WHO WAS ELECTED, FOR WHO VOTES, AND
12:23:10PM FOR THE KINDS OF POLICIES THAT ARE PASSED.
12:23:13PM IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
12:23:16PM THERE'S ALL KINDS OF RESEARCH OUT THERE NOW THAT SHOWING
12:23:18PM THAT AT LEAST POLICIES THAT DO NOT ADDRESS REAL PROBLEMS,
12:23:23PM LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
12:23:24PM IF SOMEONE COULD REACH OUT TO ME AND LET ME KNOW WHY THAT
12:23:29PM HAS BEEN AGAIN DELAYED, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
12:23:33PM BECAUSE IT'S A PROBLEM.
12:23:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:35PM YES, SIR.
12:23:36PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:23:43PM >> TOM McCASSIDY.
12:23:44PM I'M A CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT.
12:23:47PM ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
12:23:48PM WE EMPLOY ABOUT 14 PEOPLE HERE LOCALLY.
12:23:51PM WE'RE AN ARTIFICIAL TURF INSTALLER IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
12:23:55PM WHERE I'M GOING TO GO WITH THIS, THERE IS A BIGGER
12:24:01PM CONVERSATION THAT HAS TO BE HAD.
12:24:03PM WE SAT HERE AND TALKED ABOUT TREES ALL MORNING.
12:24:05PM WE TALK ABOUT HEAT, AMBIENT HEAT.
12:24:08PM ARTIFICIAL TURF DOES NOT HOLD AMBIENT HEAT.
12:24:12PM SHADE COVERAGE COMES OVER, HEAT IS GONE.
12:24:15PM I WANT TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE.
12:24:16PM I WANT TO TALK WITH THE PEOPLE AND COME UP WITH EDUCATION
12:24:18PM AND TALK TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THIS.
12:24:20PM ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS AS A PERSON LIVING IN TAMPA IS
12:24:25PM THE WATERWAYS AND THE RUNOFF WE HAVE.
12:24:29PM I WOULDN'T BE IN THIS BUSINESS IF I THOUGHT I WAS HURTING,
12:24:31PM A, THE TREES, THE ENVIRONMENT AND WATERWAYS.
12:24:34PM OUR WATERWAYS HAVE MAJOR ISSUES.
12:24:37PM RED TIDE, RUNOFF, ALGAE BLOOM.
12:24:40PM THE LAKES ARE AFFECTED BY IT.
12:24:42PM OUR BAYS ARE AFFECTED BY IT.
12:24:45PM IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
12:24:46PM ARTIFICIAL TURF DOES HELP WITH THAT.
12:24:48PM WE DON'T HAVE THE PESTICIDES.
12:24:49PM WE DON'T HAVE THE FERTILIZER.
12:24:51PM WE DON'T HAVE THINGS RUNNING OFF INTO THE WATER.
12:24:53PM AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION, BUT
12:24:57PM THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES THAT HAVE CAME
12:25:01PM OVER THE YEARS THAT NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT AND NEED TO BE
12:25:05PM BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO
12:25:08PM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
12:25:09PM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE STC, WHICH MY COUNTERPART TALKED ABOUT,
12:25:13PM TOO, THAT IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION TO GO TO TO PULL
12:25:19PM THINGS.
12:25:19PM IT'S AFTERNOON NOW, SO I WANT TO GET BACK -- THANK YOU.
12:25:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:25:26PM YES, SIR.
12:25:26PM COME ON UP.
12:25:29PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:25:30PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:25:30PM MY NAME IS IRA BLANCO.
12:25:33PM THE OWNER OF BLANCO'S TURF.
12:25:37PM WE'VE BEEN INSTALLING TURF IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA ALMOST 15
12:25:40PM YEARS, SINCE 2010.
12:25:43PM I WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE OF MY DAUGHTER.
12:25:48PM SHE IS SIX YEARS OLD.
12:25:49PM ANOTHER ONE HAVE HERE.
12:25:50PM SHE HAS ECZEMA.
12:25:51PM SINCE SHE WAS BORN SHE HAS BEEN WITH ECZEMA.
12:25:54PM RECENTLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, TOOK HER TO THE DOCTOR.
12:25:57PM CAME OUT WITH A LOT OF ALLERGIES.
12:26:00PM THEY SAY LIKE ALL THE ALLERGIES, MOST OF THEM RELATED WITH
12:26:04PM REAL GRASS.
12:26:06PM BAHIA, ZOYSIA, RELATED TO GRASS.
12:26:09PM OBVIOUSLY, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE BOUGHT A NEW HOUSE.
12:26:12PM WE INSTALLED ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THE BACK YARD.
12:26:20PM THAT HAS HELPED A LOT WITH HER ECZEMA AND ALLERGIES AND ALL
12:26:21PM OF THAT.
12:26:22PM THAT'S ONE POINT THAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS.
12:26:25PM ANOTHER THING IS THAT WITH THE TREES, I'VE BEEN INSTALLING
12:26:29PM ARTIFICIAL GRASS, MAYBE DONE 3,000 INSTALLATIONS ALL AROUND
12:26:34PM FLORIDA, NOT ONLY TAMPA BAY, NAPLES, ORLANDO, ALL OVER.
12:26:39PM ALL OF THE INSTALLATIONS, NOBODY CALLED ME -- WE'VE DONE A
12:26:45PM LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
12:26:50PM BIG TREES, REGULATED TREES.
12:26:53PM ALL THE INSTALLATION, NOBODY EVER CALLED US TO SAY THE TREE
12:26:58PM LOOKS LIKE IT'S STARTING TO DIE OR THIS OR THAT.
12:27:02PM WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES LIKE AIR DRAINS, A
12:27:06PM TESTIMONY WE CAN PUT UNDER THE TURF AND WE CAN SHOW YOU THIS
12:27:09PM LATER, THAT KEEPS THE GROUND COOLER BY HAVING IT RIGHT UNDER
12:27:14PM THE TURF.
12:27:14PM ALSO EXTREMELY PERMEABLE.
12:27:17PM NOT ONLY THAT, WE ALSO HAVE TECO THAT HELPS COOLING THE TURF
12:27:22PM DOWN.
12:27:22PM IT BRINGS THE TEMPERATURE DOWN 40 TO 50 DEGREES.
12:27:25PM WE ALSO HAVE WONDER FILL, ANOTHER PRODUCT FOR PETS.
12:27:33PM ANTIBACTERIAL THAT GOES ON THE TURF.
12:27:36PM LAST THING I WANT TO TOUCH IS THAT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORRY
12:27:40PM ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF, THE ARTIFICIAL TURF INSTALLATION
12:27:45PM USUALLY LAST ON A HOUSE I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 10 AND 12 YEARS
12:27:52PM BEFORE THIS PERSON DECIDES TO REMOVE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T
12:27:55PM LIKE HOW IT LOOKS ANYMORE, BUT THE TURF ITSELF, BEFORE IT
12:28:00PM STARTS DETERIORATING IS ABOUT 20 YEARS.
12:28:03PM I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THIS.
12:28:06PM WE HAVE MORE STUFF THAT I'LL SHOW LATER.
12:28:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:28:09PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
12:28:11PM YES, MA'AM.
12:28:12PM WAIT.
12:28:13PM PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
12:28:16PM >> MY NAME IS ALISON DATE.
12:28:17PM I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT HOW
12:28:24PM PLASTIC IS TAKING OVER OUR WORLD.
12:28:26PM IN MY LIFETIME, IT'S IN EVERYTHING.
12:28:30PM IT'S EVERYWHERE.
12:28:32PM I DON'T THINK WE ALL KNOW THE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.
12:28:35PM BUT THEY ARE FINDING OUT THAT THEY ARE NOT GOOD.
12:28:38PM JUST YESTERDAY I THINK IT WAS IN THE NEW YORK TIMES, THERE
12:28:43PM WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT HOW EPA IS FINALLY, AFTER TEN YEARS,
12:28:49PM GOING TO MAKE A NATIONAL REGULATION THAT PFAS HAVE TO BE,
12:28:54PM SOME OF THEM, BECAUSE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THEM, BUT FOUR
12:28:57PM OF THEM NEED TO BE MONITORED IN OUR WATER SYSTEM, WHICH I
12:29:03PM THINK THE NEW FILTERING SYSTEM IN TAMPA IS SUPPOSED TO BE
12:29:07PM DOING THAT TOO.
12:29:08PM ANYWAY, THERE ARE PFAS IN ARTIFICIAL GRASS.
12:29:14PM AND THEY BREAK OFF LITTLE BITS, AND WE INGEST THEM INTO OUR
12:29:21PM BODIES.
12:29:21PM AND THEY NEVER GO AWAY.
12:29:23PM AND EVERYBODY, ALMOST EVERYBODY ON -- EVERYTHING ON THIS
12:29:27PM PLANET HAS THAT IN THEIR BODY NOW.
12:29:29PM THAT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE.
12:29:31PM SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THAT IS IMPORTANT.
12:29:35PM PLASTIC BOTTLES, PLASTIC DRINKING BOTTLES.
12:29:38PM DON'T USE THEM.
12:29:39PM GET A WATER CONTAINER THAT IS NOT PLASTIC BECAUSE JUST THE
12:29:44PM ACTION OF THE WATER IN THE PLASTIC RUBS OFF LITTLE
12:29:49PM PARTICLES, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM AND YOU ARE PUTTING THEM IN
12:29:53PM YOUR BODY.
12:29:53PM THAT HAPPENS IN THE GRASS TOO.
12:29:55PM SEEING PLASTIC GRASS AT A PRESCHOOL TO ME IS JUST
12:29:58PM HORRENDOUS.
12:29:59PM THOSE LITTLE KIDS ARE PLAYING ON THAT.
12:30:01PM IT'S BREAKING UP; IT'S DISINTEGRATING ONCE YOU PUT IT IN THERE.
12:30:12PM SOME PLACES NEED THEM, BUT TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY
12:30:17PM RESPONSIBLE, IT SHOULD BE LIMITED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE,
12:30:20PM AND FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THIS COMMUNITY.
12:30:26PM I HAD TO SAY THAT.
12:30:27PM THANK YOU.
12:30:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:30:29PM YES, SIR, PLEASE COME UP.
12:30:30PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:30:32PM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS KRAMER SPEARS.
12:30:34PM I AM ONE OF THE OWNER OF MAGNOLIA TURF COMPANY.
12:30:38PM I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, AS YOU SEE, A LOT OF US HERE
12:30:42PM WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY.
12:30:43PM WHAT I HEARD WAS A LOT OF STATEMENTS.
12:30:45PM AND I THINK IT IS A MATTER OF EDUCATING EVERYBODY AS TO WHAT
12:30:49PM IS REALLY IN THE TURF AND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IN OUR
12:30:52PM INDUSTRY.
12:30:52PM THERE IS A BIG CONCERN OF PFAS, A TURF WE USE AND THE OTHER
12:31:00PM GENTLEMEN HERE USE HAVE TESTING DATA TO SHOW NO FOREVER
12:31:05PM CHEMICALS IN THE GRASS OR TURF THAT WE USE.
12:31:07PM WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU ALL SO YOU CAN REVIEW THAT AS
12:31:10PM WELL.
12:31:10PM ALSO, WE WANT TO WORK WITH Y'ALL.
12:31:12PM WE WANT TO WORK WITH NOT ONLY Y'ALL BUT WORKING WITH THE
12:31:16PM BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AS INSTALLERS.
12:31:17PM WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT WORKS FOR
12:31:20PM EVERYBODY.
12:31:21PM SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
12:31:24PM AS WE -- AS WE TALKED ABOUT ALSO, IT WILL BE IMPERMEABLE.
12:31:28PM SOMETHING WE ALREADY TOUCHED ON AND A STANDARD SET BY THE
12:31:32PM PERMIT PROCESS.
12:31:32PM BUT THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD.
12:31:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:31:36PM ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
12:31:38PM IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE OUT PUBLIC COMMENT AND TAKE IT BACK TO
12:31:41PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:31:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THANKS, EVERYBODY, FOR BRINGING ALL
12:31:46PM YOUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS.
12:31:49PM I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
12:31:51PM THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT IT.
12:31:54PM A LOT OF INFORMATION HAS BEEN CIRCULATING LAST FEW DAYS.
12:31:57PM MY INTENTION TODAY IS NOT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DECIDE TO DO
12:32:01PM ANYTHING.
12:32:01PM AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THAT ABBY DID AND GOING
12:32:05PM THROUGH ALL THE WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE IN THE LAST FEW
12:32:07PM MONTHS, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FROM THIS POINT FORWARD
12:32:11PM IS TO CONTINUE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, TALK TO STAFF,
12:32:14PM AND MAYBE COME BACK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WITH A
12:32:17PM MOTION OR MAYBE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
12:32:19PM BUT BEFORE BEFORE I COME OUT, MR. McCASSIDY, CAN YOU COME
12:32:29PM UP?
12:32:29PM I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO MR. McCASSIDY AND THAT THE
12:32:34PM COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER WITH THE SIERRA CLUB.
12:32:36PM LIKE ON THE TREE PROGRAM YEARS AGO, THE BUILDERS GOT
12:32:40PM TOGETHER -- THE STATE UNDID THE HARD WORK THEY DID THE MORE
12:32:49PM EVERYBODY TALKS TOGETHER THE MORE INFORMATION WE WILL HAVE.
12:32:51PM I WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MR. McCASSIDY, AN INTERIM
12:32:55PM POINT ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT THE STAFF WAS DOING.
12:32:59PM YESTERDAY YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT QUALITY OF TURF.
12:33:02PM CAN YOU BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THAT?
12:33:04PM IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF QUALITY OF
12:33:08PM MATERIALS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF QUALITY OF INSTALLERS SO A
12:33:11PM DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THE BASE IS LIKE AND THE QUALITY OF THE
12:33:14PM MATERIALS.
12:33:14PM SO IF WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO REGULATE, IF POSSIBLE, IT
12:33:18PM SEEMS LIKE WE COULD REGULATE TO THE HIGHER STANDARD INSTEAD
12:33:21PM OF THE LOWER STANDARD.
12:33:22PM CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY ADDRESS THAT?
12:33:24PM >> CORRECT, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ALONGSIDE THE TAMPA BAY
12:33:27PM BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND THE CITY TO COME UP WITH STANDARDS.
12:33:30PM AND YOU CAN'T DO A MUNICIPAL OR A CITY MANDATE TO DO U.S.
12:33:38PM MADE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
12:33:39PM ONLY COMES FROM A FEDERAL MANDATE, BUT YOU CAN WORK TOWARD
12:33:43PM USING A HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT THAT IS RIGOROUSLY TESTED
12:33:48PM FOR PFAS, VOCs.
12:33:52PM THE DIFFERENT HARMFUL CONCERNED CHEMICALS A LOT OF THE U.S.
12:33:56PM MANUFACTURERS HAVE RIGOROUS TESTING FOR ALL THOSE TYPES OF
12:34:01PM THINGS.
12:34:02PM SO I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN WORK TOWARD HAVING
12:34:05PM PRODUCTS THAT HAVE THE TESTING THAT SHOULD BE DONE.
12:34:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE, THE CONCERNS --
12:34:12PM ESPECIALLY THAT THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS HAVE ARE TRUE.
12:34:15PM THEY ARE MORE TRUE WITH THE LOWER QUALITY BASED ON WHAT YOU
12:34:18PM ARE SAYING.
12:34:18PM AND THE PERMEABILITY, YOU ARE ALSO SAYING THE LOWER QUALITY
12:34:21PM HAS SOMETIMES ZERO.
12:34:23PM THE HIGHER --
12:34:26PM >> THAT IS MORE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENT.
12:34:28PM YOUR ORIGINAL ARTIFICIAL TURF, IT WASN'T PERMEABLE.
12:34:32PM YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
12:34:33PM THE 70s WHEN IT CAME ACROSS.
12:34:36PM OVER TIME DRAINAGE HOLES.
12:34:38PM WE HAVE BACKS THAT ARE FULLY PERVIOUS.
12:34:41PM THE WHOLE ENTIRE THING DRAINS.
12:34:43PM AS QUICK AS THE WATER GOES, IT GOES THROUGH.
12:34:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU BRIEFLY TELL US WHAT YOU PUT
12:34:49PM UNDERNEATH IT AND HOW THE HIGHER-END INSTALLERS USE THE
12:34:53PM SUBSTRATE.
12:34:54PM >> WE USE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND
12:34:56PM THE CITY, WE CAME UP WITH A STANDARD WITH ENGINEERING AND
12:35:00PM TESTING THAT -- IF WE USE A ROCK BASE -- ROUGHLY A THREE- TO
12:35:03PM FOUR-INCH LIMESTONE OR GRANITE ROCK BASE UNDERNEATH, THAT
12:35:08PM SHOWS THE SYSTEM IS BEING 100% PERVIOUS.
12:35:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE THAT MAYBE SOME
12:35:12PM OTHER INSTALLERS MAY BE DOING?
12:35:14PM >> YOU CAN DO -- THERE IS CRUSHED CONCRETE.
12:35:16PM CRUSHED LIMESTONE.
12:35:18PM THE BASE PANELS THAT ARE GOOD POTENTIALITY TIFFS THAT WERE
12:35:21PM TALKED ABOUT.
12:35:22PM SOME PUT IT STRAIGHT ON JUST DIRT, WHICH OVER TIME WON'T
12:35:26PM HOLD UP AS WELL.
12:35:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: THOSE AREN'T PERMEABLE YOU ARE SAYING?
12:35:30PM >> THEY LOCK UP A LITTLE BIT MORE OVER TIME.
12:35:32PM RIGHT?
12:35:33PM THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF A FINE MATERIAL IN THEM THAT
12:35:35PM WILL LOCK UP AND BIND UP OVER TIME.
12:35:38PM BUT IF YOU USE A PROPER ROCK SOURCE, A WASHED ROCK, IT WILL
12:35:42PM STAY PERVIOUS FOR THE LIFETIME.
12:35:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE YOU ALL WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, I WANT
12:35:48PM TO CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE INDUSTRY AND THE
12:35:49PM ENVIRONMENTALIST.
12:35:50PM I WENT INTO THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY BEING 100% OPPOSED TO
12:35:53PM IT.
12:35:54PM IT SOUNDS LIKE A WAY TO DRAW A CIRCLE AROUND THE SAFER
12:35:57PM VERSIONS AND HIGHER QUALITY VERSIONS, BUT MAYBE BLOCK THE
12:36:03PM DANGEROUS ONES.
12:36:04PM I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
12:36:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND THEN
12:36:09PM MIRANDA.
12:36:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE -- NO,
12:36:13PM I APPRECIATE IT.
12:36:13PM I APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I TEND TO AGREE WITH
12:36:16PM YOU.
12:36:17PM I JUST -- PLASTIC, IN GENERAL, I JUST -- IT IS JUST A
12:36:23PM SCOURGE SCOURGE ON OUR EFFORT.
12:36:24PM I MEAN, I GET IT, BUT IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THERE ARE
12:36:27PM PROCEDURES THAT ARE GOING ON TO MAKE THIS MORE PERMEABLE.
12:36:31PM LITTLE BIT SAFER.
12:36:32PM MY ONLY REAL QUESTION FOR MISS FEELEY IS, YOU -- YOU TOUCH
12:36:39PM BRIEFLY ON 25%.
12:36:47PM DOES 25% STILL HAVE TO BE REAL?
12:36:55PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
12:36:56PM YES, 25%.
12:36:57PM THAT IS WHAT THE TREE AND LANDSCAPE CODE IS FOR
12:37:01PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS.
12:37:01PM 25% NEEDS TO BE GREEN AND HAVE THE TREES THAT YOU ARE
12:37:05PM REQUIRED TO DO.
12:37:06PM AND THEN THE REST --
12:37:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN BE --
12:37:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN BE A COMBINATION.
12:37:11PM YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON.
12:37:13PM YOU STILL HAVE THE 50%, RIGHT.
12:37:15PM IF YOU HAVE LOT COVERAGE MORE THAN 50%, YOU OWE A HALF-INCH
12:37:18PM RETENTION FOR THE ENTIRE LOT.
12:37:20PM AND THAT IS COMING IN AT A CERTAIN -- CERTAIN WAY, EITHER
12:37:24PM PERK PIPE OR WHOEVER -- HOWEVER YOU ARE DOING IT.
12:37:27PM BUT A COMBINATION OF SWALES.
12:37:29PM BUT THEN, YES, YOU COULD HAVE TURF IN THE -- IN THE
12:37:33PM REMAINDER.
12:37:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN HAVE TURF IN THE REMAINDER BUT YOU
12:37:37PM HAVE TO HAVE THE 25% OF PLANTS AND TREES AND OTHERS LIKE
12:37:42PM --
12:37:43PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: 25% GREEN.
12:37:44PM OR NATURAL -- NATURAL MATERIAL.
12:37:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:37:47PM A WEIRD WAY TO SAY.
12:37:49PM I APPRECIATE IT.
12:37:50PM THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
12:37:51PM AGAIN, I WANTED TO COMMEND YOU WITH WORKING WITH THE
12:37:54PM INDUSTRY.
12:37:54PM I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S SUGGESTION OF KIND OF
12:37:58PM BRINGING IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SIERRA CLUB AND SO FORTH,
12:38:04PM NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD ALSO HELP WITH GETTING THE INFORMATION
12:38:07PM OUT AND SHARING EVERYTHING.
12:38:08PM SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.
12:38:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:38:12PM AND THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:38:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PERHAPS GOING AWAY FROM SAYING "GREEN" AND
12:38:17PM TALK OF LIVING -- LIVING ORGANISMS.
12:38:19PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED AND ONE OF THE THINGS
12:38:22PM -- ONE, I THINK EVERYTHING IS A BALANCE.
12:38:24PM THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THIS.
12:38:26PM THE ALTERNATIVE OF TURF IS -- IS NOT NECESSARILY WITHOUT
12:38:31PM RISK AND PROBLEMS.
12:38:33PM THERE ARE PROBLEMS -- PROBLEMATIC ON WATER RESOURCES.
12:38:36PM PROBLEMATIC ON CHEMICAL RESOURCES.
12:38:38PM NOT NATURAL THAT WE HAVE ST. AUGUSTINE GRASS ROLLING
12:38:43PM EVERYWHERE.
12:38:43PM IT IS NOT A NATURAL LANDSCAPE.
12:38:45PM SO WE HAVE TO COUNTERBALANCE THAT WITH THE ARGUMENT OF TURF
12:38:49PM VERSUS -- NATURAL TURF VERSUS ARTIFICIAL TURF.
12:38:54PM BOTH OF THEM HAVE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES.
12:38:57PM SECONDLY, THE IMPACT ON CRITTERS.
12:39:01PM THERE ARE ALSO ISSUES THAT -- AGAIN, IT IS A BALANCE.
12:39:04PM AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS -- DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T
12:39:07PM HEARD TODAY, WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THIS
12:39:09PM DISCUSSION.
12:39:09PM BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK OF ORGANIC AND LIVE CREATURES THAT
12:39:13PM DEPEND ON LIVING PARTS OF THE GROUND, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PART
12:39:17PM OF THAT.
12:39:17PM OF COURSE, THE GRANITE IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WILL HAVE -- YOU
12:39:21PM WILL NOT ENCOURAGE ORGANISMS TO BE LIVING IN A GRANITE
12:39:25PM SUBSTRATE.
12:39:25PM SO, AGAIN, I THINK -- I THINK EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS A
12:39:28PM BALANCE.
12:39:28PM I THINK TRYING TO FIND WHERE THAT BALANCE IS WHAT THE
12:39:33PM DISCUSSION IS HERE.
12:39:34PM WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
12:39:37PM YOU KNOW -- SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEARCHING FOR
12:39:40PM HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE OF A BALANCE.
12:39:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:39:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:39:46PM ABBY, I MAY NEED YOUR HELP, SOME TIME IN PRIOR COUNCIL --
12:39:51PM EIGHT OR TEN YEARS AGO, I FORGET WHAT IT WAS, WE CUT DOWN
12:39:56PM THE AMOUNT OF PLANTED GRASS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SAVE WATER.
12:40:00PM REMEMBER THAT?
12:40:01PM I THINK 70% OF THE FRONT OF YOUR LOT LINE -- IF YOU HAVE
12:40:05PM 75-FOOT LOT, YOU CAN PUT 70% OF GRASS OR 60% TO 70% IF I
12:40:10PM RECALL THAT.
12:40:10PM THE 25% IN MY MIND IS THE 25% OF THE TOTAL LOT OR 25% OF THE
12:40:16PM 70% OR 60% OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
12:40:18PM BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENT MATHEMATICALLY.
12:40:20PM I AM JUST THINKING OUT LOUD AND MY MIND IS STILL MOVING.
12:40:24PM MY HAIR HAS FALLEN OFF, THAT'S WHY I CAN THINK.
12:40:28PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE IT IS 25 MERIDIAN OF THE TOTAL
12:40:31PM LOT.
12:40:31PM BUT MARY IS HERE.
12:40:32PM I AM GOING TO LET HER ANSWER, BECAUSE --
12:40:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED TO FIND SOMETHING BECAUSE I
12:40:37PM REMEMBER SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:40:38PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM NOT REVIEWING PLAN AS THE THAT LEVEL
12:40:41PM ANYMORE AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK IMPROPERLY.
12:40:43PM LET ME LET HER ANSWER.
12:40:45PM >> MARY DANIELS, NATURAL RESOURCES.
12:40:47PM IT IS 25% OF THE LOT.
12:40:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF THE TOTAL LOT?
12:40:51PM THE TOTAL LOT.
12:40:53PM 25% OF THE TOTAL LOT OF 25% OF THE 25%?
12:40:57PM >> NO, 25% OF THE TOTAL LOT.
12:40:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF THE TOTAL LOT?
12:41:01PM >> YES.
12:41:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY.
12:41:02PM THAT NUMBER ONE.
12:41:03PM NUMBER TWO, TAMPA BAY WATER PRODUCES 200 MILLION GALLONS OF
12:41:07PM WATER, CITY OF TAMPA 82 MILLION GALLONS AND BOTH ARE TESTED
12:41:12PM FOR PFAS ON REGULAR BASIS.
12:41:16PM NUMBER TWO, YOU SHOULD BE PROUD THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
12:41:19PM ONE OF SEVEN -- I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN, SEVEN IN WATER
12:41:23PM UTILITIES OVER 30,000 IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT
12:41:26PM HAS A AAA BOND RATING.
12:41:27PM YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
12:41:30PM SAYING THESE THINGS, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU HAVE
12:41:33PM TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WHAT GOES DOWN SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES.
12:41:37PM SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE RECEIVING IT.
12:41:39PM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT -- IF I HEAR THE NAME PINEY POINT
12:41:43PM ONE MORE TIME, EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND, IT IS FIXED.
12:41:48PM AND EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND IT IS DUMPING ANYTHING MORE
12:41:52PM INTO THE BAY AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT
12:41:56PM CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE ARE DOING TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
12:42:00PM NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
12:42:02PM WHERE YOU COME FROM.
12:42:03PM HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE.
12:42:04PM HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE, WHERE YOU LIVE.
12:42:06PM WHAT KIND OF CAR YOU DRIVE, IT WILL BE THE SAME FOR ALL OF
12:42:10PM US.
12:42:10PM THE FISH KILLS THAT ARE HAPPENING -- ARE HAPPENING FOR A
12:42:13PM REASON.
12:42:14PM BECAUSE THEY ARE MAN-MADE.
12:42:17PM THE ENVIRONMENT TAKES CARE OF ITSELF PRETTY DAMN WELL.
12:42:22PM AROUND WE ARE HERE TO RUIN IT PRETTY DAMN WELL AND WE HAVE
12:42:27PM DONE IT FOR MANY YEARS.
12:42:28PM MAYBE WE DIDN'T KNOW IT THEN, BUT WE CERTAINLY KNOW IT NOW.
12:42:31PM THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IN MY MIND TO MAKE
12:42:34PM SURE THAT WE HAVE A BALANCE OF NATURE, SO THAT NATURE CAN BE
12:42:37PM GOOD FOR US.
12:42:37PM AND WE CAN BE GOOD FOR NATURE.
12:42:39PM LIKE GETTING MARRIED.
12:42:41PM EVIDENTLY, NO ONE EVER TOOK THE OATH OF MARRIAGE WHEN IT
12:42:45PM COMES TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
12:42:46PM BUT I SAY THIS BECAUSE THE MORE YOU SEE, THE MORE YOU NEED.
12:42:52PM AND YOU MUST UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY -- I TRY TO
12:42:58PM BE HUMOROUS AT TIMES BUT I AM NOT.
12:43:01PM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS -- I WATCHED ALL KIND OF TV
12:43:04PM SHOWS -- I DON'T WATCH TV MUCH, BUT I WATCH SCRIPPS OR
12:43:12PM SOMETHING TO DO WITH CHANNEL 3 AND WONDERFUL THING ABOUT THE
12:43:16PM ENVIRONMENT ON WEDU A WEEK AGO.
12:43:19PM AND SOMETHING SOONER OR LATER IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF,
12:43:23PM THERE WILL BE MORE PEOPLE HOSPITALIZED.
12:43:25PM WHY IS ALL THE CANCER STUFF COMING UP NOW.
12:43:28PM NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT CANCER.
12:43:30PM MAYBE 80 YEARS AGO THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
12:43:33PM 80 YEARS AGO EVERYBODY DIED OF TWO THINGS, NATURAL CAUSES.
12:43:37PM NO SUCH THING OF DYING OF NATURAL CAUSES.
12:43:39PM YOU DIE OF SOME DISEASE OR SOME REASON.
12:43:41PM CANCER IS GOING UP IN MANY AREAS.
12:43:44PM WHAT IS CAUSING IT?
12:43:46PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:43:46PM SUGAR.
12:43:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GUARANTEE YOU IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO
12:43:53PM WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
12:43:53PM SMOKING IS ALLOWED AND SMOKING KILLS YOU, BUT WE STILL ALLOW
12:43:58PM IT.
12:43:58PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS IN LIFE THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
12:44:00PM -- FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR
12:44:03PM AND SAY, IS THIS RIGHT FOR ME?
12:44:05PM IF IT IS RIGHT FOR YOU, I GUESS IT IS ACCEPTABLE.
12:44:10PM BUT WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS WE HAVE TO START REGULATION, AND
12:44:15PM I AM GLAD WE ARE AT THIS TOPIC OF SPEAKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE
12:44:18PM IT HAS TO SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE, COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF
12:44:22PM WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE.
12:44:23PM AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
12:44:27PM AND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT ANY LAWS.
12:44:30PM I THINK WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE
12:44:32PM CONVERSATION IS COMING FROM.
12:44:34PM SO WE CAN GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE A BETTER
12:44:37PM DECISION TOMORROW THAT WE CAN TODAY.
12:44:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:44:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:44:42PM MAKE A MOTION?
12:44:43PM OR LEAVE IT AT THAT THE AND KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING?
12:44:56PM WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO?
12:44:57PM A WORKSHOP OR A REGULAR MEETING?
12:44:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE SHOULD BRING IT BACK FOR A
12:45:03PM WORKSHOP.
12:45:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS
12:45:05PM DISCUSSION BACK ON AUGUST 29.
12:45:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:45:10PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:45:11PM CORRECT?
12:45:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHY HE.
12:45:13PM SHOULD WE PUT IN THERE SOME WAY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
12:45:18PM MORE SPECIFIC.
12:45:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
12:45:20PM I THINK LET'S TALK TO STAFF AND WE CAN --
12:45:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY.
12:45:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OFF GRID, TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT AND FIGURE
12:45:27PM OUT THE DIRECTION UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO
12:45:29PM ADD.
12:45:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE IDEA IS BY THE END OF THE
12:45:32PM DISCUSSION, WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL MONTHS TO TALK TO FOLKS, WE
12:45:35PM WILL HAVE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:45:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DOESN'T TO TAKE THIS DOWN A PATH WE
12:45:40PM DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE HEADED.
12:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:45:45PM THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S WORKSHOP AGENDA.
12:45:48PM I AM GOING TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
12:45:49PM I HAVE NEW BUSINESS.
12:45:50PM THIS.
12:45:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
12:45:57PM MANISCALCO.
12:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CITY OF COUNCIL TO WRITE A LETTER OF
12:46:00PM SUPPORT FOR THE STRAZ CENTER IS APPLYING FOR.
12:46:03PM THIS GRANT IS TO REPLACE THE EXTERIOR BUILDING ILLUMINATION
12:46:07PM AND STRAZ CENTER LOGO DESIGN.
12:46:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECONDS.
12:46:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:46:11PM OPPOSED.
12:46:12PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:46:13PM [INAUDIBLE]
12:46:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SORRY.
12:46:21PM WHO SECONDED IT?
12:46:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DID AND CHARLIE DID.
12:46:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN HAVE IT.
12:46:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISS HENDERSON.
12:46:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE STILL IN A MEETING.
12:46:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE STILL IN A MEETING.
12:46:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS FOR COMING.
12:46:40PM ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS.
12:46:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
12:46:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:46:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO MOVE.
12:46:47PM NEXT WEEK I WAS HAVING AN UPDATE ON THE WEST TAMPA LITTLE
12:46:51PM LEAGUE MONUMENT.
12:46:52PM AND A CONTINUANCE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO JULY 18.
12:46:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:46:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION HAVE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:47:00PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:47:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEY WILL GIVE ESTIMATES OF THE RESTORATION
12:47:05PM AND WHAT THAT WILL COST.
12:47:07PM I WANT TO KNOW -- I AM HEARING THINGS OF THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
12:47:11PM POOL BEING -- BEING -- NOT BEING ABLE TO BE USED.
12:47:14PM REPAIRS, ETC.
12:47:15PM I WANTED TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL AND
12:47:19PM WHERE IT IS I HAVE A MAY 2nd AND TOO EARLY.
12:47:25PM >> I WILL SECOND THAT.
12:47:26PM I HEARD IT IS CLOSED.
12:47:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS LOOKING AT MAY 2.
12:47:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE AGENDA IS ALREADY MADE FOR MAY 2.
12:47:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, HOW ABOUT MAY 16.
12:47:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE OVER 12 ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA.
12:47:41PM JUNE 6?
12:47:45PM IT IS STILL VERY FULL.
12:47:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN, I WANT TO GET THIS SOON BECAUSE OF
12:47:49PM SUMMERTIME.
12:47:51PM AND I AM SURE STAFF WILL BE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE BETWEEN
12:47:54PM NOW AND THEN.
12:47:54PM BUT LET'S DO JUNE 6.
12:47:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:48:00PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:48:02PM IN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:48:04PM OPPOSE?
12:48:05PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:48:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WISH TO HAVE AN UPDATE -- LONG STORY.
12:48:09PM POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN APPARENTLY -- FROM WHAT I HEAR
12:48:13PM UNFILLED IN PARKS AND RECREATION.
12:48:15PM THEY ARE CREATING SOME DELAYS IN THE NEW TAMPA REC CENTER
12:48:19PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.
12:48:20PM WE WILL HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING IN MAY AND AN UPDATE AND A
12:48:23PM WRITTEN REPORT IS FINAL AND OTHERWISE NOTED ON JUNE 20.
12:48:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:48:29PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:48:31PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:48:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY A COMMENDATION FOR SAINT JAMES UNITED
12:48:36PM METHODIST CHURCH FOR A RED CARPET EVENT.
12:48:38PM PROM ON SATURDAY EVENING FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
12:48:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR THE MOTION.
12:48:44PM AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SECONDED.
12:48:46PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:48:47PM OPPOSED?
12:48:48PM THANK YOU.
12:48:48PM YES, MA'AM?
12:48:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO GIVE US THE STATUS
12:48:52PM -- TO PROVIDE US WITH A REPORT -- IT CAN BE A MEMO, OF
12:48:55PM COURSE, ON -- ON THE PAST YELLOWJACKETS FIELD -- BASEBALL --
12:49:01PM THE BASEBALL TEAM.
12:49:02PM THE YELLOW JACKETS AND RETURNING THE YELLOW JACKETS TO THEIR
12:49:09PM FIELD IF NOT PLANNED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
12:49:11PM SITTING THERE EMPTY AND THEY HAVE BEEN SINCE REQUIRED TO
12:49:15PM MOVE.
12:49:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:49:17PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:49:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:49:20PM OPPOSED?
12:49:22PM COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THE SECOND.
12:49:23PM ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE?
12:49:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
12:49:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:49:27PM I HAVE ONE MORE.
12:49:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
12:49:32PM MANISCALCO.
12:49:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE TO PRESENT A MOTION OF THE TAMPA
12:49:35PM ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN RECOGNIZING AAIP HERITAGE MONTH.
12:49:43PM I PRESENT IT OFF-SITE AT THE PACIFIC ISLANDER CULTURAL
12:49:48PM FESTIVAL AT MAY 11.
12:49:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:49:52PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:49:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE AFTER SPEAKING WITH OUR
12:50:01PM COUNSEL. MARTY SHELBY, AND CLERK'S OFFICE, I WOULD LIKE TO
12:50:04PM REVISIT ONE OF THE RULES WE TALK ABOUT OF SPEAKER SIGN-IN
12:50:08PM CARDS.
12:50:08PM I PROPOSE DOING A 90-DAY TEST PERIOD OF DOING IT TO SEE HOW
12:50:13PM IT WORKS.
12:50:14PM TO BE ABLE -- ONE, BECAUSE THE CITY CLERK HAS ISSUES WITH,
12:50:18PM YOU KNOW, CAPTURING NAMES ANDING TO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
12:50:21PM AND JUST SEE HOW IT WORKS AS FAR AS ORDER.
12:50:24PM WOULDN'T RESTRICT -- ONLY FOUR OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:50:27PM NOT FOR INDIVIDUAL ISSUES, JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE COUNCIL
12:50:31PM MEETINGS.
12:50:31PM OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:50:33PM AND DO A 90-DAY TEST PERIOD TO SEE HOW IT WORKS.
12:50:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
12:50:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:50:40PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:50:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:50:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ALREADY AGREED TO HAVE A MEMBER OF CLERK'S
12:50:49PM STAFF TO HELP PEOPLE WRITE THEIR NAMES.
12:50:51PM IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I WOULD BE OPEN TO TRYING SOMETHING
12:50:55PM DIFFERENT.
12:50:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN 90-DAY TEST PERIOD.
12:50:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A 90-DAY TEST PERIOD FOR WHAT WE ALREADY
12:51:01PM AGREED ON.
12:51:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:51:04PM CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE?
12:51:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:51:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:51:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
12:51:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:51:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
12:51:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU BRING IT BACK IN 06 DAYS OR SOMETHING
12:51:25PM I MAY SAY YES, BUT RIGHT NOW, NO.
12:51:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:51:28PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, MIRANDA, CARLSON, AND MANISCALCO
12:51:34PM VOTING NO.
12:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:51:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE A MOTION OF CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
12:51:42PM TO SEND A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF CITY OF TAMPA OF THE
12:51:49PM WALK-BIKE GRANT.
12:51:49PM A NATIONAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS THE
12:51:53PM DEVELOPMENT OF SAFE MULTIMODAL NETWORKS IN LOCAL
12:51:57PM COMMUNITIES.
12:51:57PM MA MINNESOTA MANISCALCO I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
12:51:58PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:51:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
12:52:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAVE -- WE HAVE A WHOLE --
12:52:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A ENGLISH DEGREE, AND I MIGHT AS
12:52:08PM WELL PUT IT TO GOOD USE.
12:52:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
12:52:13PM GET THAT AND GO TO LAW SCHOOL.
12:52:15PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:52:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
12:52:17PM BUT JUST A COMMENT ON THE -- ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:52:20PM I DO THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO ASK PEOPLE TO STAND UP.
12:52:24PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN STAND UP, BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, IS PEOPLE
12:52:28PM ARE JOCKEYING FOR POSITION.
12:52:29PM SITTING DOWN.
12:52:30PM HARD FOR US TO DETERMINE HOW LONG ITS GOING TO BE.
12:52:33PM I THINK WE NEED TO CUT IT OFF EARLIER TO SAY THIS IS THE
12:52:36PM LAST ONE AND NOT LET ANYBODY ELSE IN.
12:52:38PM I -- WE WANT TO LET EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AS WE
12:52:45PM WARNED SEVERAL TIMES IF PEOPLE DON'T GET IN LINE, IT JUST
12:52:49PM SEEMS TO GO ON AND ON AND ON.
12:52:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO SECURITY ISSUES -- IF EVERYBODY
12:52:54PM LINING UP -- AND MILLING ABOUT.
12:52:56PM THERE IS -- PEOPLE -- I MEAN, IT IS A LITTLE -- IT IS
12:53:02PM CHAOTIC AND CREATES AN ISSUE IN A PUBLIC SPACE.
12:53:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A BIG SPECIAL THANK YOU FOR JUSTIN VASKE
12:53:11PM TO FILL IN.
12:53:13PM A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:53:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
12:53:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
12:53:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:53:20PM OPPOSED.
12:53:22PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:53:23PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
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