📝 City Council Meeting Transcript


TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 7, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:03:19AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:03:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:03:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:03:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:03:25AM >> WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:03:27AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WELCOME.
WE WILL NOW CONDUCT THE ELECTIONS FOR THE CHAIRMAN AND
CHAIRMAN PRO TEM FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
HERE ARE THE GUIDELINES -- ELECTION GUIDELINES.
THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN WILL BE HELD FIRST.
NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE NOMINATING A CANDIDATE.
I WILL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS AND CLOSE THEM AFTER ALL
NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.
VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY RAISING THE HAND.
THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN IN THE ORDER OF THE NOMINATIONS
BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST NAME NOMINATED.

THE VOTE WILL CEASE AS SOON AS THERE IS A MAJORITY, WHICH
REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.
HAVING SAID THAT, NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CHAIRMAN.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:04:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL NOMINATE MYSELF.
9:04:35AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY.
IT'S UNANIMOUS.
9:04:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
[ LAUGHTER ]
OKAY.
WELL, THANK YOU.
9:05:03AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:05:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, I JUST THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN A VERY INTERESTING LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR BEING
CHAIR.
WE HAVE SO MUCH GOOD WORK TO DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
9:05:22AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR
CHAIRMAN PRO TEM.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:05:34AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:05:35AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
9:05:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I NOMINATE CHARLIE MIRANDA.

9:05:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DECLINE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:05:43AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
9:05:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL NOMINATE COUNCILWOMAN LYNN HURTAK, IF I
MAY.
CONSISTENCY.
9:05:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF NO ONE ELSE WILL DO IT, I WILL DO IT.
SO I HAVE TO SAY, CHAIR AND CHAIR PRO TEM, IT'S WORK.
IT'S WORK ON TOP OF THE WORK YOU ALREADY DO.
SO I'M NOT, LIKE, I'LL FILL IN IF I HAVE TO.
IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS IT, I'M HAPPY TO --
9:06:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M OUT IN SIX MONTHS.
9:06:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW ABOUT, NAYA, DO YOU WANT IT?
9:06:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I'LL DO IT.
9:06:21AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS --
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY.
SAY A FEW WORDS.
9:06:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DON'T BE ABSENT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:06:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ACTUALLY, I THINK WE MAKE A GOOD TEAM.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE STILL SITTING THERE.
THANK YOU.
9:06:42AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GREAT, GREAT.
NOW WE'LL HAVE THE ELECTIONS FOR CRA.

9:06:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I NOMINATE NAYA YOUNG.
9:06:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND THAT.
9:07:03AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:08AM >> AYE.
9:07:10AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
MS. YOUNG, MRS. YOUNG.
9:07:14AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WELL, I GUESS I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO ACCEPT.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR
CRA STAFF AND OUR CACs AND OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M READY TO GET TO WORK.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME.
THANK YOU.
9:07:35AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
NOW FOR THE VICE-CHAIR.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:07:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL NOMINATE GUIDO.
9:07:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
9:07:46AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MEAN, LOOK -- YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN -- I CAN
BE THE GERALD FORD AND COVER HALF THE TERM, WHATEVER, I
DON'T CARE.
I'M OUT IN SIX MONTHS.
9:07:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I'LL NOMINATE LUIS.
9:08:05AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
HAND.
OKAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:08:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I, MR. CHAIRMAN, REQUEST AN EXTENSION OF
TIME FOR MY REMARKS?
9:08:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DENIED.
9:08:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M JOKING.
I WILL SAY THIS, LAST TIME I MADE JOKES ABOUT IT.
I'VE BEEN ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL NINE AND A HALF YEARS, AND
JUST BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE, ALL SIX
OF YOU ALL.
AND EVERYBODY AND STAFF AND EVERYTHING.
SO JUST APPRECIATE IT AND SIX MONTHS YOU HAVE TO DO THIS
AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
9:08:40AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU.
9:08:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. FOXX, YOU ARE THE BEST CLERK IN THE
STATE OF FLORIDA, PROBABLY THE COUNTRY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ALL LOVE YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:08:56AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE MEETING BACK OVER TO YOU.
9:09:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I AM NOW GOING TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TEN-MINUTE
BREAK.

JUST FIVE MINUTES.
FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[BREAK]
9:21:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:21:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:21:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:21:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:21:48AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:21:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:21:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:21:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:21:51AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:21:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU'LL JOIN ME NOW TO STAND FOR A
MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE?
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:22:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET AN ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES HELD
ON APRIL 16, 2026 AND THE WORKSHOP AND EVENING SESSIONS FROM
APRIL 23, 2026?
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
LET'S GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS OFF THE TOP.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 43, WE NEED TO REMOVE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO REMOVE ITEM 43 FROM
THE AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 74, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA THAT NEEDS ATTENTION?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:23:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 39.
9:23:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 39.
PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
9:23:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEP.

9:23:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STAFF PRESENT?
9:23:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BUT ON CAMERA OR VIRTUALLY IS FINE.
9:23:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
39 PULLED.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
39 IS PULLED.
ANYTHING ELSE?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:23:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'D LIKE TO PULL 59 AND 61 FOR A SEPARATE
VOTE, PLEASE.
9:23:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
59 AND 61 PULLED FOR SEPARATE VOTES.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
9:24:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE MORE.
ITEM NUMBER 104, THERE ARE SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
HERE, AND THEY WOULD ASK THAT WE MOVE THAT TO EARLY IN THE
AGENDA, IF POSSIBLE.
9:24:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

IT'S A 1:30 HEARING.
9:24:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE AGENDA IF THAT WAS
UNDER THE 1:30.
9:24:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT, BECAUSE OF LEGAL
PUBLICATION REQUIREMENTS, IT CANNOT BE HEARD UNTIL AFTER
1:30 P.M.
ANYTHING ELSE?
HEARING NOTHING ELSE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE
AGENDA?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM -- WHAT DO WE HAVE ON STAFF?
WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM ABBYE FEELEY FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE IF WE COULD MOVE IT TO THE END AND IF SHE COULD PROVIDE
A WRITTEN REPORT.
I GUESS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF UPDATES, SHE WOULD APPRECIATE
THAT.
9:25:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, SINCE THERE IS NO WRITTEN
REPORT IN THERE --
9:25:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE WILL SUBMIT IT TO US BEFORE THE END OF
THE MEETING.
9:25:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY THING WOULD BE IF WE COULD PUT IT UP
ON THE SCREEN SO AT LEAST THE PUBLIC SEES THAT.
9:25:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN DO THAT.
9:25:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S NOT A TON GOING ON.
STILL, IT FEELS LIKE IT WASN'T PRODUCED BEFORE.
I'M FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE POP IT ON THE SCREEN AND

MAKE SURE IT GETS ITS WAY TO OnBase.
9:25:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
117 IS ALREADY AT THE END.
WE'LL ANTICIPATE THAT SHE WILL PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT AND
WE'LL DISPLAY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR.
IF IT IS SHORT ENOUGH, WE'LL READ IT.
YES, MS. FEELEY.
9:25:46AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I'LL COME IN PERSON IF YOU MOVE IT TO THE
END.
I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR.
I DON'T HAVE TO DO A WRITTEN ONE.
HAPPY TO COME.
I HAVE FLYER FOR UPCOMING MEETINGS.
HAPPY TO COME AND BE IN PERSON AT THE END.
9:25:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LO AND BEHOLD, THE AGENDA GODS SMILED ON
YOU AND IT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED TO BE AT THE END.
9:26:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
PERFECT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SEE YOU GUYS THIS AFTERNOON.
9:26:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT ELSE UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:26:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON ITEM 113 DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY
MASTER PLAN, I DID SPEAK WITH ATTORNEY BRODY ON THIS, AND I
WAS GOING TO HAVE HIM COME.
MR. BRODY, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU DON'T NEED TO COME FOR

THIS.
I DO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE I AM GOING TO MOTION AND
EXPLAIN ON COUNCIL WHERE WE ARE AT.
SEBASTIAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD YOU PRINT OUT COPIES OF
THE PROPOSED -- THE AMENDMENTS TO THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THEY CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE
AT?
THAT SHOULD SHORTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
9:26:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S GO THROUGH THEM ONE AT A TIME AND
MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, JOHN?
9:26:57AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
NO, SIR.
9:26:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
107 AND 108.
9:27:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THESE ARE, AGAIN, THERE ARE CERTAIN THAT ARE PLACED UNDER
STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE OF THE MONEY AMOUNT.
IF YOU DO WANT STAFF PRESENT FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE DO STATE
THAT.
AND IF NOT, THAT NO STAFF IS PRESENT, I ASK THAT WE TAKE
THOSE WHEN WE TAKE THE CONSENT DOCKET SO WE CAN MOVE THOSE
BIG-TICKET ITEMS.
9:27:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALREADY ASKED WHAT THEY WERE.
I'M FINE.

9:27:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO STAFF.
WE'LL ASK TO APPROVE THAT YOU WANTED CONSENT AGENDA 107 AND
108.
109, NO STAFF.
110.
I'M SAYING, YEAH, NO STAFF.
9:27:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO STAFF ON 110.
THANK YOU.
9:27:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
111.
9:27:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
IMPORTANT, NO, NO.
9:28:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO STAFF ON 111.
9:28:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
112.
9:28:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO STAFF ON 112, MR. CHAIRMAN?
9:28:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO STAFF FOR 112.
NO STAFF ON 113.
BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
WE'LL PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION.
114.
CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO DO A -- THAT WOULD BE
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
THEY PROVIDED A WRITTEN REPORT.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH A WRITTEN REPORT?
9:28:29AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
I'LL FOLLOW UP AND MEET IN PERSON.

9:28:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
FOR THAT OR PUT THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR RECEIVE AND
FILE.
9:28:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
JUST TO BE CLEAR SO THAT STAFF IS AWARE IT SAYS A FIVE TO
TEN MINUTE REPORT.
IN LIEU OF THAT, ACCEPT THE WRITTEN REPORT AND RECEIVE AND
FILE AT THE TIME.
NO STAFF NEEDED THEN.
9:28:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
9:28:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
9:28:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
115 YES.
9:28:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES ON 115.
GOOD ONE TO HAVE STAFF.
I AGREE.
9:28:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES ON 116.
9:29:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
9:29:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
117.
9:29:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE SAID SHE WILL BE HERE.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
118 AND 119.
WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE
OTHER TWO.
107 AND 108.
9:29:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

9:29:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU'RE CORRECT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:29:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED TO VOTE ON ACCEPTING THE WRITTEN
ONES, 118 AND 119.
HE MOTIONED.
I SECONDED.
9:29:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN
REPORTS.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
NOW CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA?
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A ROUGH DAY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, ARE YOU UP.
SOMEBODY HAS STOLEN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:30:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO DO THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH

HERE.
LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, HERE IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA, WE ALWAYS
SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THAT INCLUDES OUR POLICE
OFFICERS WHO WORK HARD EVERY DAY ON THE JOB.
AND WE'RE HERE FOR MASTER POLICE OFFICER JARED SEDACCA WHO
IS HERE WITH US.
TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE HONOREE, WE HAVE CHEER BERCAW HERE.
9:30:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
LEE BERCAW, CHIEF OF POLICE.
THE MONTH OF MAY IS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION MONTH.
LAST EVENING DURING OUR ANNUAL MEMORIAL CEREMONY, WE
SOLEMNLY HONORED THE 32 HEROES FROM OUR DEPARTMENT WHO MADE
THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
NEXT WEEK, AS OUR NATION OBSERVES NATIONAL POLICE WEEK, WE
JOIN AGENCIES ACROSS THE NATION IN REMEMBERING MORE THAN
24,000 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES
PROTECTING OTHERS.
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A NOBLE AND SELFLESS PROFESSION, AND WE
REMAIN PROFOUNDLY GRATEFUL FOR THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO
STAND AS GUARDIANS OF OUR GREAT CITY.
ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, I EXTEND MY
SINCERE APPRECIATION TO COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR YOUR
ONGOING SUPPORT OF OUR OFFICERS.
TODAY, WE'RE HONORING ONE OF OUR FINEST WHO IS GOING ABOVE
AND BEYOND IN MAKING OUR COMMUNITY EVEN SAFER.

WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE MASTER POLICE OFFICER JARED
SEDACCA AS OUR MAY 2026 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
HIS EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION AND PROACTIVE INVESTIGATIVE WORK
IN DISTRICT TWO HAS RESULTED IN KEY ARRESTS AND A MEASURABLE
IMPROVEMENT IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT HE
SERVES.
SEDACCA HAS CONSISTENTLY EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS THROUGH HIS
STRONG INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
HIS WORK HAS LED TO THE RESOLUTION OF NUMEROUS SIGNIFICANT
CASES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL BURGLARIES INVOLVING EXTENSIVE
DAMAGE AND THEFT THROUGH DETAILED SURVEILLANCE, ANALYSIS,
AND COORDINATION WITH PARTNER AGENCIES, HE IDENTIFIED A
SUSPECT, RECOVERED STOLEN PROPERTY AND PREVENTED THE SUSPECT
FROM FLEEING OUR STATE.
MPO SEDACCA IDENTIFIED AND ARRESTED A REPEAT OFFENDER
RESPONSIBLE FOR MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL BURGLARIES, CLOSING
SEVERAL CASES THROUGH PROACTIVE INVESTIGATIVE WORK.
HE ALSO PLAYED A ROLE IN SOLVING A CITYWIDE BURGLARY
PATTERN.
I TELL YOU, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE AND EVER HAD IT BURGLARIZED
IT IS THE MOST TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE, AND HE'S OUT THERE
GETTING THE BAD GUYS OFF THE STREET, 14 SEPARATE INCIDENTS
ACROSS OUR CITY LED TO THE IDENTIFICATION AND THE ARREST OF
THE SUSPECT, CLEARING 11 CASES.
BEYOND HIS CASEWORK, THOUGH, MPO SEDACCA IS A DEDICATED TEAM

MEMBER AND PLAYER WHO CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTS THE DETECTIVES
WORKING WITH INVESTIGATIONS AND COORDINATING ADDITIONAL
ARRESTS.
HE'S NOT JUST WORKING ON HIS CASES, HE'S ALSO ASSISTING THE
OTHER DETECTIVES.
HE FURTHER DEMONSTRATED HIS EXCEPTIONAL COMPASSION AND
LEADERSHIP BY ORGANIZING A FUND-RAISER THAT RAISED NEARLY
$10,000 FOR A FELLOW DETECTIVE AND THEIR FAMILY DURING A
TIME OF PERSONAL TRAGEDY.
MASTER POLICE OFFICER SEDACCA'S PROFESSIONALISM, INITIATIVE
AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVICE HAVE MADE A LASTING
IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, STRENGTHENING BOTH THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY HE SERVES AND THAT'S WHY HE'S
BEING RECOGNIZED AS OUR MAY OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE
FOR OUR COMMUNITY, STARTING WITH YOUR UNION, THAT WANT TO
COME AND SUPPORT YOU.
SO COME FORWARD.
9:34:21AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
WE WANT TO GIVE THIS PLAQUE FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
9:34:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CHIEF, OFFICER SEDACCA, THANK YOU

SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK, I WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT WITH YOU A PERSONALIZED PAVER ALONG THE RIVERWALK.
SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS HAVE GIFTS FOR YOU AS WELL.
AN ADULT NIGHT OUT AT SPLITSVILLE.
A GIFT CERTIFICATE FROM FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING, AND
HOSPITALITY IS PRESENTING YOU WITH TWO TICKETS TO YACHT
STARSHIP, LOST PEARL AND PIRATE WATER TAXI.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:35:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
GOOD MORNING, MPO SEDACCA.
GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR BEING HERE IN
TAMPA, FOR BEING COMMITTED TO KEEPING TAMPA SAFE.
WHILE, AFTER YOU LOOK AT YOUR RIVERWALK PAVER, PLEASE ENJOY
A NIGHT AT ULELE, COLUMBIA, RELAX.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:35:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.

CONGRATULATIONS ON JOB WELL DONE.
YOU DEFINITELY KEEP OUR CITY SAFE.
TODD STEPP'S AND STEPP'S TOWING, HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT CARD,
HAVE DINNER, TOP GOLF, TAKE TIME OFF, ENJOY IT.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:36:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MARY DILLON, STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
ON BEHALF OF STRAZ PLEASE ACCEPT THIS IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE.
ENJOY WITH GUESTS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE OTHER
GOODIES YOU'LL GET TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:36:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CONGRATULATIONS, OFFICER SEDACCA.
MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE, AND I AM WITH THE FLORIDA
ORCHESTRA.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE SAY THANK YOU FOR
BEING SUCH A VITAL ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN PROTECTING US.
WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING
PERFORMANCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:36:42AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:36:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.

MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:36:50AM >> MARK HANEY IS THE ZOO.
9:36:52AM >> WE'RE HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
I VOLUNTEER ON THE BOARD THERE.
WE'RE PLEASED TO PRESENT YOU WITH AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO
THE ZOO FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AS A THANK-YOU.
EACH STORY EVERY MONTH IS SO MOVING.
WHAT I PICKED UP FROM YOURS IS THE TEAMWORK.
AS I SAID BEFORE, THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO SERVES.
ALAN, DON'T YELL AT ME BECAUSE I TURN MY HEAD FROM THE
MICROPHONE, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY AND THE
TEAMWORK SO OBVIOUS AMONGST YOUR STAFF.
CONGRATULATIONS.
MARK WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY WE PICKED THIS ANIMAL FOR YOU.
9:37:24AM >> THIS IS AN AFRICAN PAINTED DOG ALSO CALLED A CAPE HUNTING
DOG OR AFRICAN WILD DOG.
THEY ARE KNOWN FOR GETTING THEIR PREY ABOUT 80% OF THE TIME.
A LION GETS THE PREY ABOUT 20% OF THE TIME.
AFRICAN PAINTED DOGS WORK AS A TEAM.
SPEAKING OF TEAMWORK, THEY WORK REALLY TOGETHER WELL AS A
PACK AND COMMUNICATE REALLY WELL AND GET THEIR PREY MOST OF
THE TIME.
THANK YOU.
WE ALSO HAVE A NEW BABY RHINOCEROS AT THE ZOO.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:37:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DENNIS.
BILL CURRIE FORD, LEO COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HI TO THE REST OF THE PEOPLE.
CONGRATS.
WORKS PACKAGE.
TIRE ROTATION.
HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM JEN CURRY HERSELF ALONG WITH A
COUPLE OF GOODIES.
SEE YOU SOON.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO ECHO, CHIEF, I WANT TO COMMEND AND
THANK YOU AND ANYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED, COUNCIL, FOR LAST
NIGHT'S CEREMONY.
IT MADE ME PROUD TO BE A TAMPA RESIDENT.
I ALSO WANT TO WISH ALL THE MOTHERS IN EVERYONE'S LIVES A
VERY HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY THIS WEEKEND.
TODAY, IT'S ABOUT YOU, OFFICER SEDACCA, AND YOUR STORY IS
REMARKABLE.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
THERE'S YOUR GAME BALL.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THEIR SUPPORT
BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEM AS WELL.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
YOU OUGHT TO ASK THE BUCS GUY WHEN -- STEVE MICHELINI, BY
THE WAY.
WHERE IS YOUR CONTRACT?
THEY ARE SIGNING A LOT OF CONTRACTS NOW.
I FIGURED YOU COULD GET SIGNED ON, AT LEAST EARN A PENSION
FROM THEM.
ON BEHALF OF THE DAILY EATS FOLKS, CRG, ALL OF THE CICCIO
RESTAURANT GROUP, WE'RE PROVIDING WITH YOU A GIFT
CERTIFICATE.
ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER.
MEAT MARKET, OLD HYDE PARK, ANOTHER GIFT CERTIFICATE TO
ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.
JACKSON BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
YOU BETTER LOOK OUT FOR ITS ONE BECAUSE THE CHIEF IS GOING
TO SNAG IT.
HE'S ALREADY TOLD ME HE WANTS TO GO OVER HERE FOR LUNCH.
YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, ENJOY YOURSELF AND
CONGRATULATIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
9:40:03AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OFFICER, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF
TAMPA, AND AGAIN, THIS REPRESENTATION OF FOLKS HERE THAT ARE
HERE TO HONOR IS A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT IS
APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND YOUR FAMILY
DOES IN SUPPORTING THIS.
ON BEHALF OF THAT, PROUD TO GIVE YOU THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
COMMENDATION.
GOD BLESS YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING --
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:40AM >> CAN I SAY WITH CERTAINTY, MOST OF US DON'T GET INTO
POLICE WORK FOR NOTORIETY.
I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.
GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND POLICE
COMMAND STAFF.
TRULY HONORED TO RECEIVE OFFICER OF THE MONTH AWARD FOR MAY
2026.
SINCE MOVING DOWN TO FLORIDA IN 2010 AND STARTING MY LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAREER I ALWAYS LOOKED AT THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT AS THE PINNACLE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
FOR THIS AWARD, I HOLD IT IN THE HIGHEST REGARD AS I KNOW
THE AMAZING WORK THAT OFFICERS AT THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
FIRST, THANK CHIEF BERCAW FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT

ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE TAMPA POLICE COMMAND STAFF FOR
RECOGNIZING MY WORK.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK DEPUTY CHIEF MESSMER, DISTRICT 2 MAJOR
McCORMICK, CAPTAIN GRONE, AND SERGEANT ZALANSKI FOR THEIR
TRUST DURING THESE IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATIONS.
200 OUT OF DISTRICT 2, THIS RECOGNITION IS NOT JUST ABOUT
ME, IT REFLECTS THE TEAMWORK AND COMMITMENT WE BROUGHT TO
THE JOB EVERY DAY.
I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK BESIDES SUCH HARDWORKING AND
DEDICATED DETECTIVES WITH WHOM I AM LUCKY TO CALL COWORKERS
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FRIENDS.
TO MY WIFE STEPHANIE, THANK YOU FOR THE LOVE, SUPPORT AND
ENCOURAGEMENT ALONG THE WAY.
YOU MADE HOME LIFE EASY AND ALLOWED ME TO FOCUS ON THE WORK
AT HAND WHICH WAS NO EASY TASK, ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR
SIX-YEAR-OLD SON WAS ALWAYS READY TO ASK HOW MANY BAD GUYS
DID YOU CATCH TODAY WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR.
MY PARENTS DOWN FROM NEW JERSEY FOR THE CEREMONY, THANK YOU
FOR THE ENDLESS LOVE AND GUIDANCE.
YOUNG AGE YOU INGRAINED THE IMPORTANCE OF HARD WORK AND
EARNING EVERYTHING ALONG THE WAY.
WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.
I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THIS HONOR AND WILL CONTINUE TO
SERVE THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA WITH INTEGRITY, PROFESSIONALISM.
THANK YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS A BIG
SUPPORTER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WE ARE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT EACH MAN AND WOMAN DOES FOR
OUR CITY, AND ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL THIS TIME OF THE MONTH
WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO CALL OUT ONE VERY EXCEPTIONAL PERSON.
THAT SO MUCH.
9:42:43AM >> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
9:42:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOUR FAMILY JUST STAND UP?
BECAUSE IF THEY ARE HERE, CAME ALL THIS WAY, THEY SHOULD
COME UP AND BE PART OF THIS FOR YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL PAUSE FOR ONE MOMENT AND THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:43:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:44:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE
MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
THIS YEAR, LIKE EVERY YEAR, IN THE PAST, IT'S A HABIT NOW
BUT REALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN THESE THINGS I TALK
ABOUT.
REVENUE, FINANCE, BUDGET OFFICE, IN RECOGNITION OF THE
REVENUE FINANCE BUDGET OFFICE BEING AWARDED THE

DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2025.
THE AWARD PRESENTED BY THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WITH THE HIGHEST FORM
OF RECOGNITION IN GOVERNMENT BUDGETING.
ITS ATTAINMENT RECOGNIZES SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT.
BUDGET OFFICE DEDICATED AND AMAZING STAFF.
THIS GOES OUT FROM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DATED MAY 7, 2026,
SIGNED BY ALL SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT --
9:45:17AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
WOW.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT WORK SINCE COVID.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WORK VERY HARD.
THE ACCOUNTING STAFF RECOGNIZED LAST MONTH, AND THEY TRULY
ARE REQUIRED BY LEADERSHIP TO HAVE A PULSE OF THE CITY'S
FINANCES.
LIKE I TELL WHEN THEY COME INTO WORK, FROM YOUR MOUTH TO MY
MOUTH TO DENNIS TO THE MAYOR.
YOU BETTER BE RIGHT.
GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE.
9:45:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY, JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
WANT YOU ON TAPE SO YOU CAN GIVE IT TO YOUR GREAT
GRANDCHILDREN.

9:46:07AM >> JOE.
9:46:08AM >> MICHAEL.
9:46:09AM >> ARNETHA.
9:46:11AM >> SUSAN.
9:46:14AM >> AMY MURPHY.
9:46:16AM >> CARLIE.
9:46:17AM >> MICHAEL.
9:46:18AM >> KENNETH.
9:46:19AM >> ADAM.
9:46:23AM >> ALAN.
9:46:24AM >> NICHOLAS.
9:46:26AM >> TOM.
9:46:27AM >> IT LOOKS LIKE A BASEBALL TEAM, BASKETBALL TEAM.
ALL WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
IT'S EARNED EVERY YEAR.
IT'S NOT GIVEN AWAY.
SO PROUD THAT THIS BUDGET OFFICE HAS KEPT EVERYONE STRAIGHT
GOING FORWARD.
WHAT THEY DO IS AN AMAZING JOB YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO SAY JUST TWO WORDS -- THANK
YOU FOR BEING WHO THEY ARE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:47:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE A BASEBALL TEAM.
SHOULD WE BUILD THEM A STADIUM?
9:47:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONLY IF YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT, SIR.

AND I THINK YOU MIGHT BE BY YOURSELF.
9:47:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:47:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE I HAVE A
LOT OF BUDGET QUESTIONS.
IN FACT, I CALLED MR. PERRY THIS VERY MORNING.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE TASKED WITH ANSWERING THOSE.
I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO.
IT REALLY MATTERS.
I'VE JUST REALLY ENJOYED DIVING INTO THE BUDGET AND KNOWING
WHERE ALL OF OUR MONEY GOES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I THINK IT'S A FUN JOB.
THANK YOU.
9:47:44AM >> IT SORT OF GOES DOWN HILL AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:47:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHARLIE, ARE WE GETTING OLDER OR ARE THESE
GUYS GETTING YOUNGER?
LOOK AT ALL THESE YOUNG FACES.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IS MICHAEL ON?
MR. SHELBY.
9:48:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE

PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, HERE TO TALK
BRIEFLY ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN
ITEM.
PER COUNCIL'S RULES, PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THOSE SPEAKING
ON AGENDA ITEMS FIRST.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE FILLED OUT A SPEAKER CARD
AND PLACED IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
APPROACH AND SPEAK.
AS I SAID, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK -- I ALWAYS FORGET TO DO THIS,
FORGIVE ME COUNCIL -- IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING
SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THERE'S NO NEED TO FILL OUT A
SPEAKER CARD.

THERE IS A SIGN-IN SHEET FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE
OUTSIDE ON THE PODIUM.
YOU CAN JUST SIGN IN THERE.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, AGAIN, PLEASE SEE THE CITY STAFF.
9:49:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THOSE ARE NUMBERS 92 THROUGH 102.
9:49:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
92 THROUGH 102.
9:49:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THE 103 THROUGH 105 FOR FIRST READINGS.
9:50:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN, EXCUSE ME, CHAIR PRO TEM HURTAK.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE NUMBERS BUT I'LL MAKE THAT A
HABIT TO MAKE SURE I DO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION
AND THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUBLIC
HEARING AND GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS
THAT ARE DISRUPTIVE.
PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL
RATHER THAN TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL
FROM AN AREA OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL RULES MAY

ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS AND OLD CITY HALL FOR
THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S MEETING.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING THE
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE TIME TO SPEAK IS
YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT HAVE A DIALOGUE OR TAKE QUESTIONS
FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AGAIN, THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT
AGENDA OR THE STAFF REPORTS IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:51:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST TO REITERATE, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK UNDER GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE CARDS OUT IN THE LOBBY.
STAFF WILL ASSIST YOU IN FILLING THEM OUT.
ONCE WE START PUBLIC COMMENT, WE NO LONGER ACCEPT CARDS.
THIS IS YOUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND FILL OUT A CARD,
IF YOU ARE HERE AND HAVE NOT FILLED OUT A CARD.
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE.
WE HAVE ONE ONLINE SPEAKER.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
GOOD MORNING, MY FRIEND.
9:52:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL NEWLY APPOINTEES.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
THE TAMPA BAY RAYS STADIUM DEAL IS -- FOR WEST TAMPA.
IT CAN BECOME THE GREATEST ECONOMIC LIFT OUR COMMUNITY HAS
SEEN IN GENERATIONS.
OR IT CAN BE A LARGER WAY OF DISPLACEMENT OF FAMILIES.
THIS MOMENT WILL EITHER BUILD OPPORTUNITY OR PUSH US OUT.
THE WEST TAMPA IS FACING SOME OF THE FASTEST DISPLACEMENT
PRESSURES IN THE CITY.
IF NOTHING IS DONE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD FACES A 14 TO 17
PERCENT DISPLACEMENT RATE.
IF NOTHING IS DONE.
THAT NUMBER GOES TO 22 -- 20 TO 22 PERCENT IN A WORST-CASE
SCENARIO.
WEST TAMPA IS UNIQUELY THE MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITY BECAUSE
IT'S THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO MIDTOWN,
DOWNTOWN EXTENSION AND NOW THE PROPOSAL YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
IF THE CITY DOES NOTHING, ONE IN FIVE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS
WILL BE FORCED OUT.
SENIORS ON FIXED INCOME WILL BE HIT THE HARDEST.
INVESTMENTS -- REPLACE FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESSES.
A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT IS THE STRONGEST TOOL THAT THE
CITY HAS TO STOP THIS.
A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT -- FOR LOW AND MODERATE

INCOME.
THESE SHOULD BE DOLLARS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY
GOING ON.
SUPPORT FOR THE TECHNOLOGY AND WEALTH BUILDING CENTER TO
INCREASE OPPORTUNITY FOR WEALTH, EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR
LOCAL AND LEGACY BUSINESSES, GUARANTEED COMMUNITY SEAT ON
THE OVERSIGHT BOARD, ADDRESS TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPACT, CULTURAL IDENTITY, PRESERVE, THAT IS, AND ACCESS TO
HIGHER WAGES AND -- PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
IN THE WEST TAMPA AREA AND PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE RENTING.
WITH A STRONG COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT IN WEST TAMPA, 17%
TO LOW AS 5 TO 8 PERCENT.
THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOSING A COMMUNITY AND NOT.
EAST TAMPA, AS WELL AS TAMPA HEIGHTS WILL ALSO BE AFFECTED
BY THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:54:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
APPRECIATE IT.
OUR FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER IS ALISON HEWITT FOLLOWED BY DR.
CAROLYN COLLINS.
GOOD MORNING, ALISON.
9:55:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT, TAMPA RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER.
ALTHOUGH THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA FOR

REPORT, I WANT TO START AT ITEM AGENDA 114.
I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
EAST TAMPA, CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES A LOT OF OUR RESIDENCES
AND OUR BUSINESSES, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE CRA PROPERTY AT
CURTIS AND OSBORNE, I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL RESIDENTS OUT
THERE.
THEY DID PUT A BLACK SCREEN AROUND, BUT NOW THE BLACK SCREEN
IS BLOWING AROUND.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE HOUSE ON CURTIS, AND HE LOOKS DIRECTLY
INTO THE OVERGROWN PROPERTY.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEEN IN THIS REPORT WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE,
NOT JUST HOW IT GOES ON THE PROPERTY TO BE MAINTAINED, BUT
EAST TAMPA AND THE CRA HAD A BUDGET FOR THE CLEAN TEAM.
BUT WE WILL FIND THE PEOPLE, BUT WE WON'T FIND CITY-OWNED
PROPERTY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING 114.
115 AND 116 FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS, EAST TAMPA CRA DID A
STRATEGIC PLAN AND DID ALL THE WALKING AROUND WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO ASK WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
THE COMMUNITY HAD INPUT.
AND THEN CITY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND CITY COUNCILMAN
DINGFELDER SAID, OKAY, HOW WILL WE IMPLEMENT IT?
THEY PUT IN THE BUDGET TO HAVE A STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION OR
DEVELOPER CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THOSE PEOPLE SPEND
ALL THEIR TIME TO SHARE WHAT THEY WANTED IT WAS ABLE TO BE

IMPLEMENTED.
I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS.
SULPHUR SPRINGS, THAT COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER.
THEY ARE WORKING AS A TEAM.
HOWEVER, MOST OF THOSE FOLKS ARE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS.
THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPERS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF ACUMEN.
SO IF WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE BUDGET HERE, I
STRONGLY ENCOURAGE AS YOU PUT IN HERE EITHER A GRANT WRITER,
BECAUSE THEY ARE GRANTS FROM F.D.O.T. THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
THERE ARE GRANTS FROM FDEP.
THERE IS A DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE GRANT BECAUSE WE HAVE
THE PARKS.
S.W.F.W.M.D. GRANT.
SO IF WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE JUST STAFF TO
BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT HAVE PEOPLE TO IMPLEMENT THESE PLANS
AS PART OF THIS TEAM TO HAVE A DEVELOPER CONSULTANT BECAUSE
THEY WANT TO DO HOUSING, TO BE ABLE TO SAY HOW DO WE
DEVELOP, HOW DO WE GET PARTNERS AND POTENTIALLY, TOO, HOW
DOES THAT COMMUNITY BECOME EQUITY PARTNERS FOR DEVELOPMENT
TO CREATE LONG-TERM FUNDING THAT'S COMING IN THERE THAT'S
NOT ALWAYS RELIANT UPON CITY DOLLARS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PLANS ON HOW TO
MAINTAIN AND CREATE SELF-SUFFICIENCY THAT DOESN'T MAINTAIN
ALWAYS THE USE OF STATE DOLLARS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:57:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ALISON.
NEXT SPEAKER, DR. CAROLYN COLLINS FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT.
9:58:01AM >> I YIELD MY TIME.
9:58:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK AT ALL?
9:58:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CAROLYN COLLINS.
KEEP DOING A GREAT JOB.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
9:58:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
APPRECIATE IT.
MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS.
9:58:16AM >> MENTESNOT, UHURU.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
FREEDOM BECAUSE FOR THE LAST 800 AND SOME YEARS, 26 YEARS WE
HADN'T BEEN FREE.
NO SELF-DETERMINATION, NO FREEDOM OF RIGHTS, NO HUMAN
RIGHTS, NO CIVIL RIGHTS, NO SOCIAL RIGHTS, NO ECONOMIC
RIGHTS, NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER.
IF YOU WERE A BIRD AND AT BIRTH THEY CLIPPED YOUR WINGS AND
YOU NEVER GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO FLY AND YOU'VE SEEN OTHER
BIRDS FLYING AROUND BUT THEY KEEP TELLING YOU, YOU ARE A
BIRD, YOU WOULD BE IN A PREDICAMENT.

THAT WOULD BE A WEIRD FEELING.
SO IMAGINE IF YOU'RE BLACK IN THE COURSE OF YOUR LIFETIME
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IT FEELS TO BE LIKE A HUMAN BEING.
THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 826 YEARS.
UNDER COLONIALISM, WHITE DOMINATION, WHITE OPPRESSION, ALL
TYPES OF CHATTEL SLAVERY, THREE-FIFTHS OF A HUMAN BEING, AND
THE PEOPLE THAT'S DOING IT TO US KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO
US.
IF I TELL YOU THAT IN THE LAST 826 YEARS NOT ONE SINGLE
AFRICAN HAVE HAD AN EDUCATION ON UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE
BEYOND A FIRST-GRADE EDUCATION, THE GREAT AND HONORABLE
MARTIN LUTHER KING, THE GREAT AND HONORABLE MALCOLM X,
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD, MARCUS GARVEY, THOMAS SANKARA.
DIDN'T HAVE ABOVE A FIRST-GRADE EDUCATION.
THE WHITE PEOPLE WILL NOT LET YOU SURVIVE ABOVE THAT.
AND YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT TO ARTICULATE IT.
YOU GOT A GROUP OF ATTORNEYS SITTING UP THERE AND SOMEONE IS
ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL AND INCARCERATED AND PUT UNDER
DURESS FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH, SOMETHING WHITE FOLKS HAVE HAD
SINCE THE MAGNA CARTA.
SOMETHING WHITE FOLKS HAVE HAD SINCE 1776.
BUT WHEN THEY SEE BLACK PEOPLE, THEY HAVE NO PROBABLE CAUSE
TO APPROACH US AND NO PROBABLE REASON BUT TO APPROACH US AND
ESCALATE.
AND IT SHOWS HOW NASTY AND INEFFICIENT THEY ARE.

JUST THIS MORNING ALONE, WHO GETS TO COME TO WORK, WORK FIVE
MINUTES AND THEN TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK WITH 20 POLICE
OFFICERS OUT HERE MAKING A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR.
WASTING TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFRICAN PEOPLE AND THE THINGS AND THE WAY
WE'RE TREATED, Y'ALL DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
NOTHING BUT SAVE TEN MILLION DOLLARS IN YOUR BUDGET FOR ME.
10:01:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. MENTESNOT.
JUST FOR CLARITY, YOU HAD ON THERE THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ON
AGENDA ITEMS.
WE GAVE YOU PRIORITY.
IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEMS,
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WAIT FOR THAT PORTION OF THE
AGENDA.
NO AGENDA ITEMS.
OKAY.
I'LL PUT YOU IN THE OTHER STACK.
TARAH BLUMA.
FOLLOWED BY VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:01:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS TARAH BLUMA.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 59, THE SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MANHATTAN AVENUE
LLC.

I STRONGLY OBJECT TO SETTLING THESE TWO LAWSUITS.
THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A BAD ACTOR.
WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TELLING YOU ABOUT THAT,
THAT HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS BUYING WHEN HE BOUGHT IT
AND FILED SUIT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR ABOUT $65 MILLION
THE DAY HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS WASN'T LIKE HE BOUGHT IT, THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO BE
ABLE TO BUILD THINGS THERE AND THEN DISCOVERED IT WAS
CONTAMINATED.
HE ALSO LIED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT NOT KNOWING THAT
FACT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED IN BOTH DISTRICT AND
CIRCUIT COURT.
THE CASE WAS ALREADY DISMISSED IN DISTRICT COURT, ACTUALLY.
IT'S A WINNING CASE.
THERE'S NOT REALLY A GOOD REASON FOR US TO SETTLE IT.
PUTTING THAT ASIDE FOR A MOMENT, THOUGH, THERE IS NO
QUESTION THAT THE ENTIRE AREA IS CONTAMINATED AND IS NOT
SAFE TO BUILD HOUSES ON.
HOWEVER, THE SETTLEMENT ONLY COVERS HALF OF THE PROPERTY.
SO EVEN IF WE WANT TO SPEND THE $83,000, GET THAT HALF TO BE
JUST CITY PROPERTY AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE
OTHER HALF.
IF WE'RE SETTLING, WHY AREN'T WE SETTLING THE WHOLE THING?
THERE ARE HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE STREET BELOW THIS, AND THE
FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT HEALTH RISK.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY.
SWITCHING GEARS, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SPENDING 49,000 FOR
THE DANCE RECITAL AT THE STRAZ.
THIS IS COMING OUT OF PARKS AND REC MONEY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING A DANCE RECITAL AT THE STRAZ IS
REALLY A NEAT EXPERIENCE.
HOWEVER, I REVIEWED THE CONTRACT.
STRAZ BUILT IN A 3% COMMISSION ON ALL TICKET SALES AND A 4%
COMMISSION ON CREDIT CARDS.
THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET IS REALLY SMALL.
IT'S NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO SPEND $49,000 ON A DANCE
RECITAL.
WE COULD HAVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THAT MONEY COULD BE
BETTER SPENT TEACHING MORE KIDS HOW TO DANCE.
FINALLY, YOUR AGENDA IS 117 ITEMS LONG.
IT'S REALLY BIG.
ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING
WHETHER THEY SHOULD ADD MORE SEATS TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT
THERE WERE SOME LOGISTICAL ISSUES WITH OBVIOUSLY THE SPACE
OF THIS ROOM, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
I WOULD CONSIDER PERHAPS IF YOU NEED TO, AS YOU TRANSITION
TO OFFICIALLY A FULL-TIME ROLE, I KNOW YOU ARE ALREADY, BUT
ON PAPER, A FULL-TIME ROLE, ADDING ADDITIONAL DAYS TO YOUR
CALENDAR TO BE IN CHAMBER.
THANK YOU.

10:04:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BLUMA.
VALERIE BULLOCK FOLLOWED BY CARTER ANDERSON.
10:04:42AM >> HI.
VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE HILL.
I'M COMING TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 59.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE GIVING HIM MONEY.
THE DAY THAT HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, HE WENT DOWNTOWN AND
STARTED LITIGATION AT THE COURTHOUSE.
HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS GETTING INTO WHEN HE BOUGHT THE
PROPERTY.
HE ROLLED THE DICE AND IT DIDN'T GO IN HIS FAVOR.
IF YOU ALL GOT MONEY TO THROW AWAY LIKE THAT, YOU MIGHT WANT
TO START GIVING IT OUT TO THE CITIZENS.
SEND US A THOUSAND DOLLAR CHECK OR ONE-TIME DEAL.
AND NUMBER 39, I KNOW YOU ALL SAID YOU WASN'T GOING TO
DISCUSS IT, BUT IT'S TWO THINGS GOING ON WITH THAT.
COMPUTERS FOR THE HANNA CENTER.
HANNA CENTER IS A GHOST TOWN.
I GO DOWN THERE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.
IT IS NOTHING GOING ON IN THAT BIG, BEAUTIFUL, EXPENSIVE
BUILDING.
AND WHEN THEY GOT ALL THE MONEY, THE MILLIONS TO BUILD IT,
THEY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING IN COMPUTERS THEN.
I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 67, THE INFILL LOTS.
YOU ALL GIVE AWAY FREE LOTS AND PEOPLE BUILD ON THE LOTS.

IN THE PAST, THEY HAVE BUILT THE HOUSE AND SOLD IT, SO THE
INDIVIDUAL IS ABLE TO BUY AFFORDABLE HOUSE.
NOW YOU ALL GIVE AWAY THE LOT AND THE PEOPLE GET TO RENT
THEM.
IT'S NO STIPULATION ON THE RENTAL, WHETHER THEY BE RENT AND
LEASE TO OWN IN THE FUTURE, WILL THEY BE BASED ON YOUR
INCOME?
OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO RENT OFF OF THIS CHARITY PROJECT
THAT THE CITY GAVE YOU TO BUILD UP YOUR GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
AND WE STILL NEED TO MAKE THREE TIMES THE INCOME TO EVEN BE
ABLE TO AFFORD THE RENT.
WHAT IS THE CITY THINKING ABOUT?
YOU GAVE AWAY THE LOT.
DON'T GIVE ALL THE MONEY TO ONE FAMILY.
MAKE IT SO THAT THEY HAVE TO SELL THE HOUSE SO INDIVIDUALS
CAN COME UP.
BECAUSE IF I GET ME AN INFILL LOT AND I'M GOING TO BUILD A
HOUSE, YOU ALL SAY I CAN RENT IT OUT, OKAY, I'LL GET MY
HUSBAND TO GET ONE.
THAT'S MORE MONEY.
YOU DO THE SAME THING.
THE CITY GIVING OUT FREE LOTS.
LET'S GET AS MANY AS WE CAN.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE INFILL LOT WHEN THEY CAME UP
WITH THE CONCEPT, I DON'T THINK IT WAS FOR THEM HOUSES TO BE

RENTED OUT.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSES SO THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO WAS RENTING AND PAYING THREE TIMES THE RENT, THAT
HIGHER RENT, $2800 FOR A THREE BEDROOM, THEMSELF SUPPOSED TO
BENEFIT FROM IT.
NOW PERSON IS BENEFITING TWICE.
THEY ARE BENEFITING FROM THE INFILL LOT, THEN THEY RENT THE
LOT, THEY RENT THE HOUSE ONCE THEY BUILD IT.
MORE MONEY COMING IN.
I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 33.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE AN UNPLEASANT COMMENT.
YOUNG IS A MAGNET SCHOOL.
THE PEOPLE ARE THE CREAM OF THE CROP.
THEY GET ALL THE HELP THEY NEED.
WHY ARE WE GIVING THEM MONEY FOR MENTAL HEALTH WHEN PEOPLE
AT POTTER NEED THE MOST MENTAL HEALTH?
THANK YOU.
10:07:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CARTER ANDERSON FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS.
10:07:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COUNCIL.
CARTER ANDERSON.
I WAS HERE ON MARCH 23rd.
CANNOT BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON FOR AGENDA ITEM 104, THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AND PARTICULARLY

MR. STEADY AND MS. EMMA GREGORY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE FOR THEIR WORK ON A WELL-REASONED EXCEPTION AVAILABLE
WHERE THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE.
WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM 104 IN THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
I THINK OTHERS FROM MY GROUP WILL BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON IN
THE EVENT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US.
10:08:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT IS NOT DURING
THE HEARING, WHAT YOU SAY IS NOT PART OF THE EVIDENCE THAT
IS HEARD DURING THE TIME.
JUST FYI.
10:08:39AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:08:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY AND WE CAN DISCUSS
THIS FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
THIS IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
THERE'S LESS CONCERN NOW OF HAVING A RECORD THAT HAS
COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
BY THE WAY, THIS IS ALSO BY A MOTION OF COUNCIL THAT YOU
TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT FIRST READINGS.
PRIOR TO THAT PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY COME AND HAVE TO DO IT
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THERE'S REALLY NOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS
BECAUSE IT'S LEGISLATIVE.
10:09:09AM >> THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

10:09:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT.
SURGRET FOLLOWED BY GLORIA SIMS.
10:09:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, PEOPLE.
SURGRET DOSS.
BE MY BEST BEHAVIOR.
I'M AN ARMY VETERAN, I HOPE THAT THIS CITY CAN ALLOCATE MORE
THAN THE $25,000 THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALLOCATED FOR VETERAN
HEALTH CARE AND THEIR CONCERNS OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
I THINK ITEM 27 SO VAGUE.
I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT VETERAN MISTREATMENT.
YESTERDAY, THE SECOND DCA ISSUED A MANDATE ABOUT AN IMPROPER
INJUNCTION THAT WAS AWARDED AGAINST ME.
NOW, THEY FOUND THAT THE ORDER IN THE ORIGINAL COURT WAS
VOID OF ANY FACTUAL FINDING AND HAD NOTHING TO SUPPORT IT ON
ITS FACE.
THIS IS AGAINST ATTORNEYS WHO INTENTIONALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF VETERANS AND HARM VETERANS HERE IN TAMPA.
THEY HAPPEN TO BE EMPLOYED BY STATE FARM INSURANCE COMPANY.
PEOPLE SOMETIMES THE COURTS GET IT WRONG, AND YOU ARE FORCED
TO HAVE TO FIGHT.
SOMETIMES SOME OF US HAVE TO FIGHT WITHOUT HAVING A LEGAL
PEDIGREE OR BEING ABLE TO GET AN ATTORNEY THAT CAN HELP YOU
AGAINST SOME PRETTY POWERFUL ENTITIES.
BUT IT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS FUND THE COURT
SYSTEM AND IT FUNDS YOU ALL AS WELL.

AND, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN WHEN THE LAW IS DISREGARDED, IT
SEEMS TO BE UPHELD OVER HERE BY THE PEOPLE WHO OCCUPY THESE
SEATS.
RECENTLY, I STARTED GETTING E-MAILS AND SHOUT-OUT TO MICHAEL
JACKSON -- STARTED GETTING E-MAILS FROM A DEAD ATTORNEY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS HAPPENING, FOR A CASE THAT I
THOUGHT WAS DEAD.
THIS ATTORNEY HAS BEEN GONE FOR OVER TWO YEARS, AND IT WAS
TOLD TO ME DURING A HEARING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
I SAT BACK WAITING FOR TWO YEARS TO GET AN ORDER FOR A CASE
WHERE THERE'S NO FINDING OF FACTS.
THE PARTIES WEREN'T PRESENT.
ESSENTIALLY THE ORDER WAS VOID.
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT ARM.
TWO YEARS THIS GUY HAS BEEN DEAD.
TWO YEARS I SAT BY HOPING THE JUDGE WAS GIVING AN ORDER THAT
SHE'S OBLIGATED TO GIVE.
I FILED ANOTHER MANDAMUS TO THE SECOND DCA.
THE MANDATE FOR THE CASE I'M TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT HERE.
YOU CAN LOOK IT UP AND SEE THE ATTORNEYS.
MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT THE ATTORNEYS AND PERSON'S NAME.
I LIKE TO NAME DROP.
IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, TELL THEM TO COME SUE ME.
EIGHT YEARS, THESE PEOPLE, THESE ATTORNEYS, THESE LAW FIRMS
REPRESENTING SOME 200 ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN CARRYING A LIE FOR

EIGHT YEARS.
NOW, I DON'T EXPECT YOU ALL CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I ENJOY SHARING THE PLATFORM WITH YOU, SHARING MONEY ON
YouTube FOR SOME REASON.
THAT BEING SAID, PEOPLE, DON'T TAKE YOUR FOOT OFF THE GAS.
WE HAVE ELECTIONS COMING UP.
HOLD THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
IN CLOSING, MY AUNT IS HERE.
SHOUT OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
10:12:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. DOSS.
GLORIA SIMS FOLLOWED BY CLARENCE TOWNES.
10:12:31AM >> I'M CLARENCE TOWNES.
I SHOULD BE AHEAD OF HER.
WHAT I'M HERE FOR, ABOUT STOLEN PROPERTY.
A LOT THAT WAS STOLEN FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I HAVE A MAP OF THE LOT -- I MEAN, THE ALLEY, WITH THE SEWER
IN IT.
AND WE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT, BUT BECAUSE IT BELONGED TO
COUNCIL, I MEAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWENDOLYN A. MYERS,
NOTHING WAS DONE.
THEY SAY SCREW YOU.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
SHE CAN HAVE IT.

10:13:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO SEE IT, YOU CAN
PUT IT ON THE --
10:13:12AM >> OKAY.
THIS IS A COPY WHERE I MADE THE REQUEST.
READY?
EVERYBODY HAS A COPY?
YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM, RM 16, YOU SEE A RED CROSS.
YOU'LL SEE THE ALLEY HAS THE ARROW TO IT.
UP ABOVE IT IS THE PARK.
IN THAT ALLEY IS A SEWER.
THIS IS OVER 2,000 SQUARE FOOT OF ALLEY WITH A SEWER AND IT
DISAPPEARED BECAUSE COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN A. MYERS WANTED
IT.
WHOOSH.
GONE.
OVER A MILLION DOLLARS GONE.
ON THAT OTHER PIECE, YOU'LL SEE MOBILITY REVIEW REQUEST AND
THE CASE NUMBER.
NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN.
THAT'S FROM 630 -- 6/30/25.
EVERYTHING STARTED HAPPENING WHEN WE CAME DOWN HERE ABOUT
ALMOST A YEAR AGO BECAUSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THEY WANTED TO
PUT A DUPLEX.
WE SPOKE UP.
AFTER THEN, APPARENTLY GWEN MYERS WENT TO THE MAYOR AND HAD

THE MAYOR SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT ON US ABOUT AN ALLEY THAT WE
HAD PERMISSION TO CLOSE IN MORE THAN 34 YEARS AGO.
SO YOU DOING THAT NOW, YOU WON'T EVEN SEE ALLEY THAT'S BEEN
STOLEN.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS A NEW HOUSE, ASK FOR THE SITE PLAN.
I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION.
JUST A LITTLE BIT.
YOU ASK FOR THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT ALLEY WITH THE
SEWER INCORPORATED.
WHOOSH, IT'S GONE.
OVER 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
I GUARANTEE YOU THAT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
I HAVE SOME MORE.
TAKE CARE OF THIS.
LIT THIS TOWN UP.
THIS IS WORSE, WHAT IS THE -- STEVE LaBRAKE.
MORE MONEY INVOLVED.
SOME OF YOU ALL REMEMBER ME WITH HIM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
MORE MONEY THAN HIM.
TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL TRANSFER OF CITY PROPERTY, THAT IS IT.
GUESS WHAT, GOING INTO PUBLIC RECORDS TO COMMIT A CRIME IS A
CRIME.
CHECK OUT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

I HAVE SOME STUFF FOR YOU THERE, TOO.
IMAGINE, WHEN THAT GUY TRANSFERRED, HE WAS WORKING FOR THE
COUNTY.
10:15:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CLARENCE.
GLORIA SIMS.
FOLLOWED BY DAVID PHILIPSEN.
10:15:49AM >> I'M HERE WITH CLARENCE TOWNES.
2706 NORTH 33rd STREET.
EVERYTHING HE SAID WAS CORRECT.
HE SAID TO SAY THAT FIRST BECAUSE THE WHOLE THING STARTED
BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT A DUPLEX IN OUR RESIDENTIAL, OUR
RM-50 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
WE DIDN'T WANT A DUPLEX PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN
RESIDENTIAL, RM 50, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES SINCE ABOUT 50 YEARS
AGO WHEN WE FIRST MOVED AROUND THERE.
IN FACT, I WENT AROUND THE WHOLE AREA AND EVERYBODY SIGNED
OFF, CAME DOWN HERE, GOT IT DONE PROPERLY.
IT'S RM 50.
BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT A DUPLEX IN, JUST PUSH IT IN ON US
AND WE DIDN'T WANT IT.
THAT'S HOW ALL THIS OTHER STUFF GOT STARTED.
WE'VE BEEN HARASSED AFTER THAT, BUT IT STARTED WITH THEM
WANTING TO PUT A DUPLEX IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DIDN'T WANT THAT.
10:17:03AM >> THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI.

THEY WANT TO SEE ME.
THIS IS NOTHING.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:17:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST ONE AT A TIME.
SORRY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
DAVID PHILIPSEN FOLLOWED BY JOSE VASQUEZ.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:17:30AM >> DAVID PHILIPSEN, FOR THE RECORD.
MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO THE RACES FOR MAYOR.
WHILE THE ELECTION IS NOT UNTIL 2027, THERE IS A LIST OF
CANDIDATES A MILE LONG.
WHY ARE THESE CANDIDATES NOT DECLARING THEY ARE EITHER
REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT, OR DEMOCRAT?
ONE OF THE ANSWERS I GOT OUT OF THE SOE'S OFFICE IS BECAUSE
IT IS A NONPARTISAN OFFICE.
THE OTHER COMMENT, WHICH IS MORE OF A PUBLIC SERVICE
ANNOUNCEMENT, IS IN ORDER TO VOTE BY ABSENTEE, YOU NOW HAVE
TO CALL THE ELECTIONS OFFICE EVERY ELECTION CYCLE SO THE
VOTERS CAN REREGISTER HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND FOR THE
COUNTY COMMISSION RACES FOR HILLSBOROUGH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT LITTLE PUBLIC SERVICE
ANNOUNCEMENT.
THANK YOU.

10:18:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DAVID.
APPRECIATE IT.
THAT IS A GOOD PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.
JOSE VASQUEZ, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW.
GOOD MORNING, JOSE.
10:18:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS JOSE VASQUEZ, RESIDENT OF 2222
NORTH 64 STREET.
BUSINESS LOCATED 1924 NORTH 60 STREET.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME PROBLEM I HAVE FOR
THE LAST THREE YEARS.
I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TAKE CONTROL OF HIS
PROPERTY LOCATED ON 1999 NORTH 59th STREET.
GIVE ME A SECOND.
THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE, CAN YOU SEE?
MY LEGAL INTEREST.
MY RIGHT-OF-WAY, FOR I CAN GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY I
RENTED.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE AFTER TODAY'S DATE, I SEE ITEM 114,
TALKING ABOUT A REPORT FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT HOW
THE CITY PROPERTY IS BEING MAINTAINED.
I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW HOW.
INSPECTOR CAME TO YOU, BECAUSE IMPROVED ROAD OR ALLEY
MAINTAIN IT BY THE PERSON SEND TO THE PROPERTY.
I DO MY CIVIC WORK WHILE MY NEIGHBOR REFUSED TO DO IT

BECAUSE HE TRIED TO HARM MY INTEREST, DAMAGE MY REPUTATION,
PLANTING TREES INSIDE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BELONGS TO THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
CRIMINAL ACCUSATION BECAUSE I WAS CLEANING THE CITY OF TAMPA
PROPERTY.
IT'S SO SAD.
TOMORROW IS THE LAST DAY I WEAR THIS BADGE.
I'M LOSING MY PROFESSIONAL LICENSE, ONE OF THEM BECAUSE THE
NEGLIGENCE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REAL ESTATE BECAUSE THE
NEGLIGENCE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF MOBILITY, AND BECAUSE CODE
ENFORCEMENT REFUSED TO GIVE VISITATIONS TO THE NEIGHBOR WHO
TRASHING YOUR PROPERTY.
I GOT VIDEO, EVERYTHING, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO GIVE -- TO
THIS GENTLEMAN AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY.
MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE MY COLOR SKIN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY BECAUSE I'M A HARD WORKER OR BECAUSE I
DON'T WANT TO USE MY INFLUENCES.
I PAY TAXES ON THAT PROPERTY, BUSINESS TAXES, OR CAN'T DO
BUSINESS.
NOW I'M LOSING ONE OF MY PRIDE LICENSES.
LOSING INCOME AND NEXT THING HOMELESS.
I'M HERE TO UNDERSTAND HOW I OPEN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE I
KNOW IT'S FUNDING ALLOCATED.
I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT FAILED TO GIVE ME INFORMATION HOW TO

DISPOSE GARBAGE.
IF A CITIZEN WANTED TO CLEAN YOUR PROPERTY, WHY YOU HAVE TO
BE CRIMINALLY PUNISHED TO HELP THE CITY.
THANK YOU.
10:22:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JOSE.
ASHLEY MORROW.
FOLLOWED BY TONY CHIOFALO.
10:22:14AM >> HELLO.
ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
WE ARE MOVING INTO THE GOLDEN AGE.
THE GILDED AGE.
NATIONALLY AMERICA WAS TRANSFORMED AND YOU HAD FIGURES LIKE
THOMAS EDISON INTRODUCING ELECTRICITY TO THE PUBLIC,
INDUSTRIES EXPANDING AND THE CITY IS BEGINNING TO MODERNIZE
FLORIDA'S POPULATION STILL SMALL BUT A LITTLE TOWN ON THE
WEST COAST CALLED TAMPA WAS BEGINNING TO GROW BECAUSE THERE
WAS OPPORTUNITY HERE.
AT THE SAME TIME, BLACK MEN WERE STEPPING INTO POSITIONS OF
LEADERSHIP AND GOVERNMENT DURING RECONSTRUCTION, MEN LIKE
CYRUS CHARLES, MILLS HOLLOMAN, FREDERICK NEWBERRY
REPRESENTED A NEW GENERATION OF BLACK POLITICAL POWER.
IN 1883, SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENED, SIMILAR TO TODAY.
THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1875 IN
8-1 DECISION.

THIS MARKED THE BEGINNING OF THE DISMANTLING OF
RECONSTRUCTION, WHITE POLITICAL LEADERS WANTED TO LIMIT
BLACK VOTING POWER AND REMOVE BLACK INFLUENCE FROM THE
GOVERNMENT BECAUSE TOO MANY FINANCIAL AND POLITICAL
DECISIONS WERE NOW BEING SHAPED BY FORMALLY ENSLAVED PEOPLE
AND THEIR DESCENDANTS.
AS RECONSTRUCTION WAS BEING DECONSTRUCTED, INDUSTRIALIZATION
WAS RISING.
BLACK LABOR WAS STILL NEEDED ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH BUT NOW
THERE WAS ALSO A GROWING CLASS OF BLACK EDUCATORS, TEACHERS,
MINISTERS AND BUSINESSMEN STEPPING INTO THE WORLD WITH
EDUCATION AND AMBITION.
OUT OF THIS ERA CAME LEADERS LIKE BOOKER T. WASHINGTON,
FREDERICK DOUGLASS AND W.E. DUBOISE.
HERE IN THE SOUTH, ESPECIALLY IN TAMPA, MEN BLACK
COMMUNITIES GRAVITATED TO WASHINGTON AND DOUGLAS BECAUSE
THEY PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED SLAVERY, HARD LABOR AND
SURVIVAL.
BOOKER T. WASHINGTON ENCOURAGED BLACK AMERICANS TO USE
EDUCATION, DEVELOP TRADES, BUILD BUSINESSES, AND CREATE
ECONOMIC STABILITY.
THAT CONTEXT MATTERS WHEN MODERN POLITICIANS SPECIFICALLY --
SORRY, SELECTIVELY QUOTE HIM TODAY TO MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT
SLAVERY BENEFITING BLACK PEOPLE.
WASHINGTON WAS SPEAKING DURING A TIME, SPECIFIC PERIOD OF

TIME OF SURVIVAL AND ECONOMIC STRATEGY AFTER RECONSTRUCTION
HAD ALREADY BEEN COLLAPSING.
MEANWHILE, TAMPA WAS GROWING RAPIDLY.
THERE WAS -- THERE ARE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES DISCUSSING THE
EXPANSION OF HARLEM ACADEMY, INCLUDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A
TWO-STORY BUILDING NEXT TO THEIR OLD BUILDING, ALSO HENRY
PLANT WAS BRINGING THE RAILROAD.
HERE IS HEN -- SORRY, THE TAMPA BAY HOTEL WHICH IS NOW TODAY
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
THERE WAS ALSO A COLORED -- THERE WAS ALSO A COLORED SCHOOL
CONVENTION HERE IN TAMPA IN 1889 IN MAY.
AND IT WAS HEADED BY THOMAS McKNIGHT.
TALK ABOUT THOMAS McKNIGHT AT LENGTH.
FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY HAPPY EMANCIPATION DAY.
YESTERDAY WAS TAMPA'S EMANCIPATION DAY.
THE DAY FEDERAL TROOPS APPROACHED TAMPA VIA THE TAMPA BAY
AND TOOK OVER FORT BROOKE.
ESSENTIALLY FREEING ALL THE ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
AFTER THAT, THEY HEADED TO BROOKSVILLE AND ALL THE OTHER
PLACES INLAND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:25:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU AS ALWAYS ASHLEY.
VERY INTERESTING.
TONY CHIOFALO.
FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH.

10:25:29AM >> TONY CHIOFALO.
I'VE BEEN A CITY RESIDENT NOW GOING ON ABOUT THREE YEARS.
GOT A REAL SMALL ISSUE TO TALK ABOUT.
I APOLOGIZE.
THERE WAS THIS DOG PARK THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE ART MUSEUM
THAT WAS OPEN ALL THE TIME.
YOU COME HOME FROM YOUR JOB, YOU TAKE YOUR DOG TO THE DOG
PARK.
IT'S A SOCIAL GATHERING, A PUBLIC PARK.
IT'S WELL MAINTAINED.
JUST FANTASTIC.
A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I GO THERE ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT,
COME HOME FROM WORK, GET THE DOG, GO DOWN, PLACE IS LOCKED
UP.
WHY IS IT LOCKED UP?
BECAUSE THE CITY HAS CONSTRUCTED A BRAND-NEW DOG PARK NEXT
TO CURTIS HIXON.
AND THEY HAD A CEREMONY.
SO I GO DOWN THERE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND IT'S GREAT.
GO DOWN THERE ON THURSDAY NIGHT.
IT'S GREAT.
ON FRIDAY, IT'S LOCKED UP.
IT'S CLOSED OFF.
IT'S ALL FENCED OFF.
WHY IS IT?

BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING I'LL CALL IT A PRIVATE EVENT THAT
CURTIS HIXON PARK, LIKE A WINE FEST OR FOOD FEST.
$125 TO GET IN AND NOW YOU CAN'T GO TO THE DOG PARK.
I SAY TO MYSELF, HOLY -- WELL, I SAID TO MYSELF, WELL, YOU
KNOW, THEY CLOSED THE PARK ON WEDNESDAY.
THEY OPENED UP A NEW ONE, AND NOW ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY,
SUNDAY, YOU CAN'T GET IN THERE.
SOMEBODY JUST KIND OF MADE A MISTAKE.
BUT IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN AND AGAIN WHERE THE CITY HAS, AND I
KEEP CALLING THEM A PRIVATE KIND OF LIKE EVENT AT CURTIS
HIXON PARK ON THE GRASS FIELD, BUT THEY FENCE OFF THE STEPS
UP TO THE DOG PARK.
SO WHEN IT HAPPENED LIKE -- AND SOMETIMES IT STARTS ON A
THURSDAY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SET UP.
SO YOU CAN'T GET IN THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
SO I ASKED THE NICE GUY FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THERE IS
THE OFFICE THERE, YOU GO UP THE STEPS, AND HE SAID, OH, THE
PROMOTER, AND THAT IS THE TERM HE USED, DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE
HANGING UP ON TOP OF THE STEPS BY THE DOG PARK BECAUSE THEY
CAN SEE TOWARDS THE FIELD.
THEY CAN SEE THE STAGE.
THEY CAN HEAR THE MUSIC, AND THEY WANT THEM TO PAY THE $125.
I DON'T KNOW WHO, BUT, LIKE, IS THERE ANY WAY WHEN YOU GUYS
HAVE THESE PRIVATE EVENTS THAT WHEN YOU DO THE FENCING OFF,
YOU CAN KEEP THE STAIRS OPEN, KEEP THE DOG PARK OPEN, AND

JUST TAKE A CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE HANGING OUT
THERE TRYING TO HEAR THE MUSIC FOR FREE.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
10:28:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FYI, WE HAVE A BRAND-NEW DOG PARK ON
FRANKLIN NORTH OF TAMPA THEATRE.
JUST OPENED UP.
10:28:22AM >> I KNOW.
IT'S JUST THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GIVING THAT KIND OF CLASS
PREFERENCE OVER JUST PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TAKE THEIR DOG TO
THE DOG PARK.
10:28:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DARRYL FOLLOWED BY JOHN GREEN.
10:28:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
DARYL HYCH.
BETWEEN 2023 AND 2025, 129,494 DAYS OF OUT-OF-SCHOOL
SUSPENSION, ATOS AND IN-SCHOOL SUSPENSION HAS HAPPENED TO
WHITE LITTLE GIRLS AND BOYS.
TAMPA BAY TIMES, CREATIVE LOAFING, THE BUSINESS JOURNAL,
SPECTRUM NEWS, CHANNEL 10, USA NEWS SHOULD ALL BE TELLING
THIS STORY ABOUT HOW 129,000 WHITE BOYS AND GIRLS HAVE BEEN
OUT OF SCHOOL SUSPENDED WITHIN TWO YEARS.
THAT IS A VERY ALARMING NUMBER FOR NO ONE TO EVEN BE
PUBLICIZING THAT AND TRYING TO CHANGE IT.
MY QUESTION NOW IS, HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?
THIS WEEK I WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SPOKE WITH THEM.
I SAID, MAN, THESE NUMBERS ARE ALARMING.
THE BUCS GAVE THOSE -- IT WAS TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK.
THEY GAVE THEM ACCOLADES.
THEY GAVE THEM AWARDS.
THE BUCS GAVE THEM FOOTBALL TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE
OUTSTANDING THINGS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT I SAID, MAN, THOSE AMOUNT OF DAYS BEING MISSED IN SCHOOL
DUE TO, AS I STATED, ATOSS, IN-SCHOOL SUSPENSION, AND
OUT-OF-SCHOOL SUSPENSION.
I APOLOGIZE.
I LIED TO YOU.
I WANT TO SEE HOW YOU FELT.
THOSE NUMBERS WERE FOR BLACK KIDS.
BETWEEN TWO CULTURES, YOU TAKE THAT 140666, THE 9655, 8844
AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, AND YOU SEE
THAT THERE HAS BEEN OVER 129,494 DAYS MISSED IN SCHOOL.
IT SAYS DAYS.
RESOLUTION 568 TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION.
THIS IS A WRONG THAT WE COULD CORRECT THIS.
HOW ARE WE SITTING HERE AND ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN?
THAT'S TOO MUCH DATA FOR US TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
129,000 DAYS BETWEEN BLACKS AND HISPANIC CHILDREN OUT OF
SCHOOL.

10:31:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DARRYL.
JOHN GREEN FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT.
ROBIN, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
GOOD MORNING, JOHN.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:32:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JOHN GREEN.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE NAACP THIS CHAPTER, HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
CYBERBULLYING INVOLVING MY FAMILY, SO NOW I THINK IT'S FAIR
PLAY.
WHAT YOU LOOK IN THAT IS A FELONY CHARGE, IT'S A DEAD HORSE,
BUT I THINK IT'S RELEVANT IN THESE DAYS OF THE PRESIDENT OF
THE NAACP, WHICH IS ASKING FOR MONEY FROM THE CITY, RIGHT?
THREE THINGS THAT COME TO MIND IS THEY ARE ON CITY PROPERTY,
RIGHT, THEY ARE DEALING WITH KIDS, AND YOU HAVE THE
PRESIDENT OF NAACP WHO IS A FELON.
NOW, WHEN I SPOKE ON THIS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD, I ASKED THEM
IF A FELON WAS TO COME ONTO THAT PROPERTY, HOW WOULD THEY
ACCESS THE NAACP, RIGHT?
AFTER THAT, I STARTED GETTING ATTACKED BY -- NOW THEY ARE
POSTING MY WIFE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO IT'S FAIR GAME.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS NAACP.
AND HERE IS THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY SIGNED WITH THE SCHOOL

BOARD SAYING THAT THEY CANNOT, IF THE SCHOOL BOARD CALLED
THEM FOR TROUBLE WITH ANY KID IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THEY HAVE
TO COME OUT AND DEFEND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
HOW CAN THEY ASK FOR MONEY TO WORK WITH CHILDREN?
IF A CHILD GET HURT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS FELON WHO
IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP, WHO IS GOING TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?
WILL THE CITY TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT?
THEY ARE SITTING ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.
I'M ASKING THAT ALL FUNDS BE STOPPED, THEY BE INVESTIGATED,
A THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECK ON ALL OF THEM OR REMOVE THEM
UNTIL THEY GET NEW LEADERSHIP IN.
NOT ONLY THAT, THEY ARE USING THE SCHOOL ADDRESS.
SO, WHO IS GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE WITH ONE OF THEM CHILDREN
GET HURT THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, IT IS A KNOWN FELON -- LET ME PUT IT UP BECAUSE
THEY EXPOSE MY BUSINESS.
HERE IT GO RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S HER CHARGE, 2002, DOCKET NUMBER, CASE NUMBER AND THE
ABUSE SHE HAS DONE WITH THE KIDS.
DO THE CITY WANT THIS BLOOD ON THEIR HAND?
I'M JOHN GREEN.
I'M TIRED OF THEM.
I KNOW Y'ALL TIRED OF THEM.
THEY BULLY THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.

I'M TIRED OF THEM AND YOU ALL NEED TO STOP IT.
I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
WHY DO YOU SUPPORT NAACP PRESIDENT WHO IS A FELON AND NOT DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
YEAH, I'M ASHAMED --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:35:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
JOHN, THANK YOU, BUT NO.
VALERIE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
10:35:33AM >> I'M LEAVING.
10:35:35AM >> WE'LL TAKE IT OUTSIDE.
10:35:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
YEAH, TAKE IT OUTSIDE, PLEASE.
ROBIN.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEAK.
OKAY.
ISABELLA MOELLER FOLLOWED BY ALYSSA WHITE.
GOOD MORNING, START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:36:12AM >> ISABELLA MOELLER.
I'M THE TAMPA BAY ORGANIZER FOR FOOD AND WATER WATCH AND
ALSO A PROUD MEMBER OF THE HILLSBOROUGH AFFORDABLE ENERGY
COALITION.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SPEAKING WITH ME TODAY.

I KNOW I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF YOU PERSONALLY, AND I
THINK YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT MYSELF AND SOME OTHER COALITION
MEMBERS SHOWED UP TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING LAST MONTH TO TALK
ABOUT SKYROCKETING ELECTRICITY BILLS, SPECIFICALLY IN
REGARDS TO A RESOLUTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY
PASS, CALLING ON STATE LAWMAKERS TO PASS AFFORDABLE ENERGY
REFORM LEGISLATION NEXT SESSION.
SO I'M HERE AGAIN TODAY TO FORMALLY DELIVER THAT DRAFT
RESOLUTION TO YOU ALL.
AND IT HAS BEEN E-MAILED TO MOST OF YOU AS WELL.
I FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR
ALREADY LOOKING AT THIS AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK.
SINCE I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU
INDIVIDUALLY, I WANTED TO COME HERE DIRECTLY TO DELIVER IT
TO YOU.
I KNOW I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THE DETAILS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE RESOLUTION, BILLS HAVE BEEN
SKYROCKETING IN TAMPA FROM TECO'S EXCESSIVE RATE INCREASES.
AT A TIME WHEN COSTS ARE ALREADY RISING ACROSS THE BOARD,
WE'RE REALLY FEELING THE STRAIN OF THESE UTILITY RATE HIKES
THAT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR REFORMS AT THE STATE
LEVEL, WHICH WOULD REIN IN EXCESSIVE UTILITY PROFITS AND
BRING DOWN ELECTRICITY COSTS.
HOWEVER, OUR STATE LAWMAKERS HAVE FAILED TO TAKE ACTION,

STALLING ALL THREE PIECES OF AFFORDABLE ENERGY LEGISLATION
THIS PAST SESSION.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TURNING TO YOU, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
WE DON'T JUST NEED RESIDENTS CALLING ON OUR STATE LAWMAKERS
TO MAKE CHANGES.
WE ALSO NEED OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ADD THEIR VOICE AS
WELL.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AS A LOCAL BODY, YOU HAVE LIMITED
AUTHORITY OVER UTILITY COMPANIES AND THEIR REGULATORS, BUT
YOU DO HAVE A PUBLIC PLATFORM AND THE ABILITY TO ADVOCATE ON
BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM FOLKS ABOUT THEIR ENERGY
BILLS BEING TOO HIGH.
I KNOW THE CITY HAS ALSO BEEN IMPACTED AS YOU, TOO, ARE A
CUSTOMER OF TECO.
THIS IS A WIDESPREAD, HARD-HITTING ISSUE THAT FOLKS ARE
LOOKING FOR LEADERSHIP ON.
AGAIN, WHILE I KNOW THE CITY CAN'T DO MUCH TO LOWER
ELECTRICITY BILLS IN THE MOMENT, YOU CAN STILL TAKE
MEANINGFUL ACTION BY APPLYING PRESSURE TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE
POWER TO ACT.
AT A TIME WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE DEFINITION OF WHAT
DEMOCRACY REALLY IS, WE MUST USE OUR VOICES TO PUSH BACK
AGAINST THE GREEDY CORPORATE FORCES AND CHAMPION REAL,
FORWARD-LOOKING SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD RESULT IN A MORE

PROSPEROUS AND AFFORDABLE FUTURE FOR US ALL.
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE MANY AGENDA ITEMS TODAY, BUT
I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU PLEASE REVIEW THIS RESOLUTION.
PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT IT WOULD SIGNIFY TO THE ADVOCATES FOR
SOLUTIONS THAT ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTING YOURSELVES AND YOUR
COMMUNITY.
BE THE PEOPLE CHAMPIONS WE KNOW THIS COUNCIL CAN BE.
THANK YOU.
10:39:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YSABELLA.
ALYSSA WHITE FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:39:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ALYSSA WHITE.
I SERVE AS CLIMATE JUSTICE ORGANIZER WITH FLORIDA STUDENT
POWER AND PROUD MEMBER OF THE HILLSBOROUGH AFFORDABLE ENERGY
COALITION.
I'M HERE TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN ADVANCING THE
RESOLUTION THAT MY COLLEAGUE, YSABELLA, PRESENTED BEFORE
YOU.
RIGHT NOW, TAMPA FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING UNDER THE WEIGHT OF
RISING ELECTRIC BILLS WHILE TECO CONTINUES TO BRING IN
RECORD PROFITS YEAR AFTER YEAR.
YOU HEARD FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THESE SKYROCKETING
COSTS, AND MANY OF YOU AS TECO CUSTOMERS YOURSELF HAVE
LIKELY EXPERIENCED THEM, TOO.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS SIMPLE.

FOR YOU TO USE YOUR PLATFORM AND YOUR VOICE TO STAND WITH
THE PEOPLE YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME MAY FEEL THAT THIS ISSUE FALLS
OUTSIDE OF THE DIRECT AUTHORITY OF CITY COUNCIL, BUT EVEN
WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE DIRECT CONTROL, YOU CAN STILL HAVE THE
POWER TO SPEAK UP AND APPLY PRESSURE ON BEHALF OF YOUR
COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE THAT EACH OF YOU RAN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE YOU CARE
ABOUT THIS CITY AND THE PEOPLE INSIDE OF IT.
RIGHT NOW, THOSE PEOPLE NEED YOU.
THIS RESOLUTION IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE PEOPLE OF
TAMPA THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS PAYING ATTENTION AND WILLING
TO STAND BEHIND THEM.
A RESOLUTION MAY NOT LOWER BILLS OVERNIGHT, BUT IT DOES SEND
A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT OUR CITY WILL NOT IGNORE CORPORATE
GREED WHILE WORKING FAMILIES SUFFER.
URGENCY IS ONLY GROWING.
SUMMER IS APPROACHING, TEMPERATURES ARE BEGINNING TO RISE,
AND MANY RESIDENTS ARE TERRIFIED ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEXT BILL
IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE HOSTED A COMMUNITY EVENT ON ENERGY
AFFORDABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
MORE THAN 50 TAMPA RESIDENTS ATTENDED, INCLUDING STUDENTS,
SENIORS, AND WORKING FAMILIES.
PEOPLE SHARED STORIES OF CONFUSING CHARGES, HOW THEIR BILLS

HAVE DOUBLED UNEXPECTEDLY AND THE FEAR ABOUT WHETHER THEY
COULD AFFORD TO STAY COOL DURING FLORIDA'S EXTREME HEAT.
THE MESSAGE FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS VERY CLEAR.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
SO TODAY, I URGE YOU TO TAKE THIS RESOLUTION SERIOUSLY,
REVIEW IT THOUGHTFULLY AND STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
YOUR CONSTITUENTS NEED TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO
FIGHT FOR THEM.
THANK YOU.
10:41:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:41:22AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
THE CITY USES THE GENERAL FUND WHERE IT IS NEEDED TO DO THE
MOST GOOD.
YOU DON'T USE MY TAXES EXCLUSIVELY FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON MY
PROPERTY OR ON MY BLOCK OR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CRAs KEEP A LOT OF TAX MONEY TO FIX THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS BUT IT IS RESTRICTED IN ITS USE.
SO MANY THINGS MUST BE PAID FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT MEANS USING TAXES PAID ELSEWHERE TO FILL THE GAP.
THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS.
THAT IS APPROPRIATE.
THE CITY NEEDS TO MOVE THE MONEY AROUND TO BENEFIT THE WHOLE
AND DO THE MOST GOOD.

DENVER LEVIED A NEW TAX ON EVERYBODY SO THEY COULD BUILD
SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE, BECAUSE THAT IS FOR EVERYONE'S BEST
INTERESTS.
THEY EXHIBITED LEADERSHIP.
FOR DECADES, THE CITY ALLOWED NO SIDEWALKS AND NO FEES.
THEN THEY DELAYED RAISING THE FEE AS THE CODE REQUIRES.
BUILDERS PAID THE MEASLY $29 BECAUSE IT INCREASED THEIR
PROFIT.
WE HAVE LOST MILES AND MILES AND MILES OF SIDEWALK AS A
RESULT.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY SIDEWALKS TO NOWHERE.
WE WOULD HAVE COMPLETE SIDEWALKS IF THE CITY HAD STOOD UP
AND DONE THE RIGHT THING FOR ALL OF US.
THIS IS THE RESULT OF RAISING THE SIDEWALK FEE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN INSURMOUNTABLE OBSTACLES CAN BE OVERCOME.
WHEN THEY DON'T BUILD THE SIDEWALK, THEY MUST PAY THE FEE.
THE MONEY CAN BE USED TO BUILD SIDEWALKS AROUND SCHOOLS.
THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY
TO DRIVE THEM TO SCHOOL.
THOSE CHILDREN ARE OFTEN FORCED TO WALK IN THE STREET,
SOMETIMES IN THE DARK.
WE NEED THE FEES TO PAY FOR SIDEWALKS WHERE THEY ARE
CRITICAL FOR SAFETY.
TAMPA IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES IN THE COUNTRY FOR
PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.

NONE HE SAW PEOPLE ARE BEING MOWED DOWN ON A SIDEWALK.
PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, BE THE LEADERS WE NEED.
BUILD THE DAMN SIDEWALKS.
THANK YOU.
10:43:36AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:43:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE ARE TWO INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO 104 AND 105.
IT'S NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
THEY CAN'T STAY.
10:43:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THEM TO
SPEAK.
10:43:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MR. SHELBY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
10:44:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
I CAN BRING IT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
10:44:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO 104 AND 105, IF
YOU WOULD COME FORWARD.
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
GO TO THE PODIUM.

START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:44:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS LARRY PASETTI.
I RESIDE AT 2831 SAFE HARBOR DRIVE IN TAMPA.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU
ALTHOUGH I'M A HORRIBLE SPEAKER.
AND FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE
HERE ON THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY BOARD.
THIS IS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE BOARD.
WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM 105 BEFORE THE AGENDA.
ADVISORY COMMITTEES A LOT OF TIMES ARE SYMBOLIC, BUT NOT IN
THIS CASE.
THE OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL, EACH MEMBER BROUGHT
EXPERTISE, ROLLED UP SLEEVES AND DEDICATED A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO THIS PROCESS.
EACH MEMBER HAD A VOICE AND A VOTE IN REVAMPING CHAPTER 26.5
OF THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ORDINANCE INTO A FRAMEWORK
THAT PRIORITIZES AND STRENGTHENS LOCAL BUSINESSES.
IN THE COMMUNITY.
WITH YOUR SUPPORT, THIS WILL BECOME THE STRATEGIC BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
SEVERAL OF MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE HERE TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE.
WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEM COMING DOWN HERE.

EACH OF THEM RUNS SMALL BUSINESSES.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO COME DOWNTOWN.
EBOAC WAS RECONVENED ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT THE U.S.
ATTORNEY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS
ISSUING ALL THESE DIRECTIVES ABOUT DEI.
IT PROMPTED THE CITY TO SUSPEND PORTIONS OF CHAPTER 26.5.
SO EBOAC MADE IT THEIR PRIMARY MISSION TO REVAMP THE
ORDINANCE TO BE CODE COMPLIANT.
AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO STRENGTHEN THE ORDINANCE FOCUSING
ON LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES WHILE PRESERVING THE IDENTITY OF
OUR MINORITY CONTRACTORS.
I BEING ONE.
CHAIR BEING ONE.
JUST EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE BEING.
SO BEFORE THE ORDINANCE -- THIS ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU HAS
BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED BY CITY STAFF, IT HAS BEEN DEBATED
AMONG US, PURCHASING, EBOAC -- EBO OFFICE, PURCHASING
ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATION, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, EACH OF THE
MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE HAVE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
TIME PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE AND LEGAL KEEPING US IN
PARAMETERS THAT THIS IS LEGALLY DEFENDABLE.
MISSY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
10:47:09AM >> OUR TEAM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WORKED
COLLABORATIVELY.
IT WAS THE WHOLE COMMITTEE AND EVERYONE HAD A VOICE.

EVERYONE CONTRIBUTED, AND THEY WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DEFENSIBLE AND LEGAL
UNDER THE CURRENT STANDARDS.
10:47:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:47:28AM >> MALISSIZA PITCHER.
I AM THE CO-CHAIR OF THE EBOAC AND A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN
THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
10:47:36AM >> 100% OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE COMMITTEE VOTED IN FAVOR OF
THIS ORDINANCE.
NOT ONE PERSON OPPOSED IT.
10:47:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:45AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE LUNCH
APPOINTMENTS OUR AIDE PUT ON THE CALENDAR.
I MET WITH THE TWO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN HERE.
STARTED A CONVERSATION, STOPPED IT -- I WANT TO MAKE IT A
PUBLIC RECORD.
10:48:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
NEXT SPEAKER, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL?
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
WHICH ITEM ARE YOU SPEAKING TO?
10:48:10AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE HOPKINS.
I AM THE EBOC AT-LARGE MEMBER FOR THE WMBE COMMUNITY.
GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THE LIFE OF OUR CITY MOVES AND EBBS AND FLOWS.
OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE THAT THROUGH THESE CHANGES,
OUR POLICIES REMAIN LAWFUL, TRANSPARENT, AND FAIR.
IN PREPARING THE ORDINANCE, THE EBOC COMMUNITY REVIEWED THE
DOCUMENT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
WE FOUND PROVISIONS AND THRESHOLDS FROM 2008 STILL
ATTEMPTING TO GOVERN A VERY DIFFERENT ECONOMIC REALITY IN
2026.
THROUGH EVIDENCE-BASED RESEARCH, WE UPDATED WHAT WE COULD BY
MODERNIZING OUTDATED THRESHOLDS, CLARIFYING PROCESSES, AND
ENSURING ALIGNMENT WHERE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.
WE ACCEPT WHAT WE COULD NOT CHANGE BECAUSE OF CERTAIN
PROVISIONS ARE FIRMLY SET BY FLORIDA STATUTE.
THIS ORDINANCE REFLECTS THE COMMITTEE'S COMMITMENT TO
INTEGRITY, LAWFUL IN ITS COMPLIANCE, TRANSPARENT IN ITS
PROCESS, AND FAIR IN THE APPLICATION TO EVERY BUSINESS.
THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT JUST A POLICY UPDATE, IT IS THE
COMMITTEE'S COMMITMENT THAT TAMPA'S ECONOMIC FRAMEWORK WILL
SERVE THIS CITY FOR YEARS TO COME.
AGAIN, I AM STEPHANIE HOPKINS, THE EBOC AT-LARGE MEMBER FOR
THE WMBE COMMUNITY.
I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU.
10:49:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION
APPOINTMENTS.
ITEM NUMBER 7.
RESOLUTION APPROVING, CONSENTING TO AND CONFIRMING THE
REAPPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR OF WILLIAM BABCOCK, ALTERNATE, AS
A MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
IS MR. BABCOCK IN THE ROOM?
NO.
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE APPOINTMENT
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
NUMBER 8 IS APPROVING THE NOMINATION BY THE MAYOR AND
APPOINTING VIVIAN WALKER AS INTERNAL AUDITOR AND DEPARTMENT
HEAD OF THE CITY OF TAMPA INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
THERE SHE IS.
CHIEF BENNETT.
10:50:48AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, AND CONGRATULATIONS
ON THE NEW APPOINTMENTS.
GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
NEXT TO ME STANDS MS. VIVIAN WALKER, LONGTIME EMPLOYEE OF
OUR CITY AUDIT DEPARTMENT.

HONOR AND PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO PRESENT HER ON BEHALF OF THE
ADMINISTRATION TO COUNCIL IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT CHARTER
POSITION FOR THE CITY.
I'VE CLOSELY WORKED WITH THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT SINCE MY
RETURN IN THIS POSITION.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE '84.
SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR 33 YEARS, SO IT'S JUST BEEN A WONDERFUL
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR TWO OFFICES.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, WHEN I FIRST CAME BACK, I
REALIZED THAT THROUGH THE GREAT RECESSION, A LOT OF THOSE
POSITIONS WERE REDUCED.
WE WERE ABLE TO ADD A POSITION TO THE DEPARTMENT AND TALK
ABOUT CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT TO CREATE KIND OF A CULTURE OF
CORRECTION BASED ON THINGS THAT WE LEARN OVER TIME.
AND THEIR DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PART OF THAT.
OF COURSE, MS. WALKER HAS BEEN A LEAD SENIOR AUDITOR IN THAT
SPACE, AGAIN, THROUGH OUR ADMINISTRATION.
THEY JUST RECENTLY, AS YOU SAW IN THE MEMO THAT I SUBMITTED,
JUST COMPLETED THEIR PEER REVIEW OF THEIR OWN WORK AND
RECEIVED THE HIGHEST REMARK YOU CAN GET IN THAT PEER REVIEW
MODEL.
SO CLEARLY, THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT WORKS CLOSELY WITH COUNCIL.
THEIR AUDIT UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE THE AUDITS
HAPPEN.
A LITTLE SIDE NOTE ON BEHALF OF OUR FORMER DIRECTOR,

CHRISTINE GLOVER, WHO JUST RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE CITY,
THAT THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB THAT THEY TEND TO LOSE TALENT
TO OTHER LOCATIONS FOR HIGHER PAY.
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET
YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST
IN THAT AUDIT SPACE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL CEASE MY COMMENTS AND ALLOW MS. WALKER
TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL FOR THIS IMPORTANT NOMINATION.
10:52:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, MS. WALKER.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:52:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VIVIAN NORMAN WALKER, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA'S INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
AS THE CHIEF HAS EXPRESSED, I LOVE THE CITY.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 33 YEARS, AND I APPRECIATE THE CONFIDENCE
OF THE MAYOR IN MAKING THIS APPOINTMENT.
NOW I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH BOTH THE MAYOR AND
COUNCIL IN A NEW ROLE AS DIRECTOR.
10:53:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:53:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I WILL SAY BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT
WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT YOU.
SO NICE TO SEE A LONG-TERM EMPLOYEE MOVE UP THROUGH THE

RANKS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
10:53:23AM >> THANK YOU.
10:53:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPOINTMENT OF
VIVIAN WALKER SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:53:32AM >> THANK YOU.
10:53:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW GET BACK TO WORK.
[ LAUGHTER ]
STOP GOOFING OFF.
OKAY.
MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, ITEM NUMBER 9.
10:53:52AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
HERE REGARDING THE APPOINTMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
ADVISORY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE EIGHT INDIVIDUALS THAT APPLIED, AND THEY WILL COME
UP AND PRESENT THEMSELVES.
NICK ALLEN.
10:54:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NICK ALLEN?
NO.

10:54:29AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
LORETTA BAKER.
10:54:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LORETTA BAKER?
10:54:35AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
MEGAN COCHRAN.
10:54:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE SHE COMES.
10:54:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:54:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:54:55AM >> MY NAME IS MEGAN J. COCHRAN.
AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE AD HOC MEMBER
FOR THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA PROJECT.
THIS INITIATIVE IS IMPORTANT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE
BUILDING ITSELF, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT REPRESENTS.
THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT PROGRAM ENSURES THAT
DEVELOPMENT IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS TO A
COMMUNITY, BUT HAPPENS WITH A COMMUNITY.
THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA BUILDING IS MORE THAN JUST A STRUCTURE
BUILT IN 1910, IT'S A PIECE OF TAMPA'S HISTORY, ESPECIALLY
EAST TAMPA'S.
ITS REDEVELOPMENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING ECONOMIC
GROWTH, PRESERVE CULTURAL IDENTITY, AND IMPROVE PUBLIC
SPACES.
BUT NONE OF THAT REACHES ITS FULL VALUE UNLESS PEOPLE WHO
LIVE NEARBY SEE TANGIBLE BENEFITS IN THEIR DAILY LIVES.
THAT'S WHERE I COME IN.
AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES, WORKS, AND IS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THIS

COMMUNITY, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING RESIDENTS
FEEL HEARD, NOT JUST IN THEORY, BUT IN ACTUAL NEGOTIATION
PROCESS.
THIS ROLE REQUIRES LISTENING, ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS,
AND MAKING SURE THAT COMMITMENTS MADE BY THE DEVELOPERS
TRANSLATE INTO MEANINGFUL OUTCOMES LIKE IMPROVED
INFRASTRUCTURE, DEVELOPMENT TO GROW OUR CRA TIF DOLLARS, AND
JOB OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS.
I BRING A MINDSET OF FAIRNESS, ATTENTION TO DETAIL, AND A
WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK UP WHEN NECESSARY, BUT ALSO TO
COLLABORATE.
BECAUSE THE GOAL HERE IS NOT CONFLICT.
IT'S ALIGNMENT.
IT'S MAKING SURE THE DEVELOPER, THE CITY, AND THE COMMUNITY
ALL MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT CREATES LASTING VALUES.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A FOCUSED SHORT-TERM
COMMITMENT, AND I AM PREPARED TO GIVE IT TIME AND ATTENTION
IT DESERVES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS TO ENSURE THE BEST
POSSIBLE OUTCOME.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND
IMPACT.
IF SELECTED, I WOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY AND WORK
TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT TRULY BENEFITS EAST TAMPA
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

10:57:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, LORETTA.
MEGAN.
EXCUSE ME.
MEGAN.
I WROTE THE WRONG NAME DOWN.
10:57:48AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THE NEXT APPLICANT IS HEATHER HAY.
10:57:55AM >> I AM HEATHER HAY.
AND I AM EXCITED TO BE HERE.
VERY NERVOUS, BUT EXCITED TO BE HERE.
I, TOO, ITERATE ALL OF WHAT MEGAN SAID.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
I HAVE LIVED IN NORTH YBOR FOR FOUR YEARS AND LOVE IT.
THE CULTURE, THE DIVERSITY, AND THE RICH HISTORY IN YBOR.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE
CBAC COMMITTEE AND OUR COMMUNITY.
I BRING 20 YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN GLOBAL
RECRUITMENT WHERE I HAVE WORKED ACROSS INDUSTRIES,
COMMUNITIES, AND ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS.
MY CAREER HAS BEEN CENTERED ON CORRECTING PEOPLE WITH
OPPORTUNITIES, EMPLOYMENT, MENTORSHIP, AND LONG-TERM CAREER
SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL AS THEIR OWN BUSINESS GROWTH.
AT THE CORE MY WORK HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO ADVOCATE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHILE ALIGNING WITH BROADER ORGANIZATIONAL AND
COMMUNITY GOALS.
WHAT DRAWS ME TO THE CBAC IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP ENSURE

THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND
WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
GROWTH SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE, INTENTIONAL, AND SUSTAINABLE.
I BELIEVE DEEPLY WHEN THE COMMUNITIES ARE ENGAGED IN THE
PROCESS, MUCH LIKE THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA PROJECT BECOMES A
MODEL FOR EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREAS.
IF APPOINTED, I WILL FOCUS AND ENSURE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
NOT ONLY ARE DELIVERED, DELIVERED AS PROMISED.
I WILL APPROACH THIS ROLE WITH INTEGRITY, DILIGENCE, AND
GENUINE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AT-LARGE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:59:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:54AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THE NEXT APPLICANT IS DAVID
HENNESSEY.
10:59:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DAVID?
HEARING NONE.
11:00:05AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THE NEXT APPLICANT IS DANIELLE
RIVERA.
DANIEL RIVERA.
11:00:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DANIEL?
SEEING NONE.
11:00:15AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THE NEXT APPLICANT IS ANTHONY
VELASQUEZ.
11:00:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANTHONY?

NO.
11:00:24AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THE LAST APPLICANT IS TONY WALTERS.
11:00:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TONY WALTERS.
SEEING NONE.
SO THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE PRESENT AND TWO POSITIONS.
DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT?
11:00:37AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
YES.
11:00:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOW.
DO WE HAVE A BALLOT OR DO UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR THE TWO?
11:00:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE FOR THE TWO FOLKS COME IN --
11:00:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR
THE TWO IN-PERSON APPLICANTS FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, A SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT CLERK?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH.
11:01:02AM >> THANK YOU.
11:01:03AM >> THANK YOU.
11:01:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONGRATULATIONS.
11:01:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:01:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
11:01:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

SORRY, I JUST STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM.
I BELIEVE THAT A RESOLUTION HAS TO BE PREPARED.
I WILL BRING THAT BACK ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
11:01:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT OUR
ATTORNEY BRING BACK A RESOLUTION FOR THE TWO APPOINTMENTS TO
BE BROUGHT BACK ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:01:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SATISFY MY CURIOSITY, TELL ME THE NAMES
AGAIN.
11:01:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL GET THOSE FROM THE CLERK FOR YOU.
MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM SPELLED PROPERLY.
11:01:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'LL GET THEM FROM THE AGENDA.
11:01:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY ARE NOT LISTED.
APPROPRIATE TIME TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THERE ARE MANY OPEN
BOARDS AND COMMISSION POSITIONS AVAILABLE.
AND THESE ARE THE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS.
ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE
MEMBER AVAILABLE.
FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, WE HAVE A PUBLIC
POLICY MEMBER APPOINTMENT AVAILABLE.
FOR THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, TWO POSITIONS, ONE AN
ARCHITECT AND THE OTHER IS A RESIDENT OF YBOR CITY HISTORIC
DISTRICT.

YOU JUST HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT.
ONLY QUALIFICATION.
FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ADVISORY COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN
AT-LARGE APPOINTMENT AVAILABLE.
SO ANYBODY IN THE CITY, PLEASE LOOK AT THAT.
COMMUNITY BENEFIT ADVISORY COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN AD HOC
PROJECT-SPECIFIC -- THESE THE TWO WE JUST DID, THE COMMUNITY
BENEFIT ADVISORY COUNCIL AD HOC PROJECT SPECIFIC.
SO NEVER MIND.
THOSE TWO ARE FILLED.
FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, WE HAVE AN URBAN
PLANNER AVAILABLE POSITION.
IF YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR ANY OF THOSE POSITIONS, PLEASE SEEK
THE INFORMATION ONLINE OR REACH OUT TO ONE OF YOUR
COUNCILPERSONS TO BE POINTED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN CITY GOVERNMENT.
LET'S MOVE ON.
ANY REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
HEARING NONE.
COMMITTEE REPORTS, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, 10-23.
11:03:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, IF I MAY, I MOVE ITEMS 10-23.
11:03:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO
MOVE ITEMS 10-23.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:03:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 38 AND 40 THROUGH 42
AND 44.
11:03:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:03:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 45 THROUGH 55.
11:03:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE
45-55.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE ITEMS 56, 57, 58, 60, 62, 63, 59
AND 61 PULLED.
11:04:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION AND SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
11:04:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WANTED A SEPARATE VOTE ON 59 AND 61.
11:04:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND VOTE.
SOMEBODY TO MOVE ITEMS 59 AND 61?
MOTION FOR ITEM 59 AND 61.
ROLL CALL.
11:04:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:04:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:04:26AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:04:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:04:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
11:04:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:04:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:04:33AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:04:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD AND THE
PUBLIC, THAT VOTE AND THE MOTION APPLIED TO BOTH 59 AND 61.
11:04:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
COMMITTEE, REMINDING THAT ITEM 74 IS A SUBSTITUTE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE 64 THROUGH 76.
11:04:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVE INCLUDING SUBSTITUTE.
11:04:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM CARLSON AND SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:05:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 77 THROUGH 86.

11:05:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
11:05:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
FOR ITEMS 87 THROUGH 91.
11:05:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN UP THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARING?
10 AND 10:30.
MOTION TO OPEN UP 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
11:05:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
WOULD NOW BE THE PROPER TIME TO MOVE, IF I HAVE IT CORRECT
107, 108, 109, 110, 111 AND 112?

11:05:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
READ THOSE OFF AGAIN.
11:06:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 114.
11:06:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
114, WANT A PRESENTATION.
11:06:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT A PRESENTATION.
SHE ACCEPTED THE WRITTEN REPORT.
I'LL MOVE THOSE.
MOTION FOR THAT.
11:06:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
11:06:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
107 THROUGH 112.
11:06:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 114.
11:06:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
11:06:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
DOES THAT CLEAN ALL THOSE UP?
11:06:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK A PROCESS QUESTION?
11:06:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
11:06:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I BRING THIS UP FOR EVERYBODY.
MARTY AND ANYBODY ELSE, I HEAR THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN
SECOND READINGS WILL ASK THE AUDIENCE IF THERE'S ANY

OBJECTION, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THEY APPROVE ALL OF THEM
IN ONE VOTE.
HAS CITY COUNCIL EVER DONE THAT AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN
OPINION ON THAT?
11:07:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SECOND READINGS.
11:07:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, NOBODY TO
OBJECT IN THE AUDIENCE, THEN THEY MOVE ALL OF THEM IN SECOND
READING WITH ONE VOTE.
11:07:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
I'LL INQUIRE AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
MIND YOU, IF THEY ARE FOR SECOND READINGS AND THEY ARE
NOTICED AND ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS, THERE IS A PROCESS
THAT'S INVOLVED.
THERE'S DUE PROCESS RIGHTS.
11:07:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
I WANTED TO BRING IT UP IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
11:07:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AN ANSWER.
11:07:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'LL GET YOU ONE.
THANK YOU.
11:07:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE HIM
COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE JUST SO WE HAVE IT -- MAYBE UNDER
OLD BUSINESS?
11:07:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NEW BUSINESS.
11:07:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE MAKING IT NEW BUSINESS.
11:07:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY

RETURN ON WHATEVER DATE IS AVAILABLE --
11:07:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE WE HAVE IT SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL,
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:08:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUNE 4 IS THE NEXT.
11:08:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, CONSIDER THAT A JOB
ASSIGNMENT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
WE HAVE NOW OPENED UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE 10 AND 10:30.
FIRST HEARING IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
ITEM 92.
WHO IS PRESENTING?
11:08:34AM >> DID YOU SAY ITEM NUMBER 92?
11:08:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
11:08:37AM >> OKAY.
THAT'S A LOT QUICKER THAN WE THOUGHT.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
MIKE PERRY, DEPUTY CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
I'M JOINED BY BRAD BAIRD AND McLANE EVANS.
I JUST E-MAILED MR. HAMILTON TO BE AVAILABLE ABOUT 11:30.
BUT WE'LL PROCEED.
THIS IS OUR SECOND TIME BEFORE YOU.

WE'VE BRIEFED YOU INDIVIDUALLY ON THE WASTEWATER AND
WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES.
WHAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL?
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN OR DO
YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE?
11:09:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM
NUMBER 92?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 92?
11:09:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WAS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:09:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO
ITEM 92?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
11:09:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 92, FILE E2026-8, CH 26, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING CITY OF
TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 26, ARTICLE 1, SECTION
26-31, UTILITY RATES, FEES, AND CHARGES AND SECTION 26-37,
WATER CAPACITY FEE; BY INCREASING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER
CAPACITY FEES; BY REMOVING CONFLICTING AND OUTDATED PORTIONS
OF SECTION 26-31, UTILITY RATES, FEES AND CHARGES; BY
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN

EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:10:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BEFORE I VOTE, I WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC,
TOMORROW -- MONTHS AHEAD, EVERYBODY CAN CATCH UP AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
11:10:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:10:33AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:10:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEDURES.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE NEXT HEARINGS, PLEASE
STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:11:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
HERE WE GO.
ITEM NUMBER 93.
11:11:10AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 93 IS REZ 26-06.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4420 WEST
CARMEN STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, YOU'LL SEE THAT I WAS ABSENT AT
THE NEXT FEW HEARINGS.
I HAVE WATCHED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REVIEWED THE RECORDS
AND I'M PREPARED TO VOTE.
THANK YOU.
11:11:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO HAVE I, MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 93.
11:11:47AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO AM I FOR ITEM 94.
11:11:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE'RE ALL PREPARED AND READY TO VOTE.
THAT WAS IT, MR. CHRISTOPHER?
11:11:58AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THAT IS IT.
11:11:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?
OKAY.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 93?
11:12:14AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:12:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON.
11:12:17AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:12:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO

SPEAK TO ITEM 93?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
CARROLL ANN, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
NO.
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR TO CLOSE, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:12:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 4420 WEST CARMEN STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:13:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:13:13AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND HURTAK VOTING
NO.
11:13:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.

ITEM NUMBER 94.
11:13:20AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THANK YOU AGAIN.
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 94 IS REZ 25-77.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 301 AND
305 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR MEDICAL OFFICE AND PERSONAL SERVICES USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S
OFFICE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:13:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
HEARING NONE.
APPLICANT?
11:13:48AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:13:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 94 WE HAVE A
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SORRY.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:14:06AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AGENDA ITEM 94, FILE REZ 25-77, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
301 AND 305 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE, PERSONAL SERVICES,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:14:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:14:42AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:14:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 95.
11:14:47AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 95 IS REZ 25-115.
THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3724
WEST SAN PEDRO STREET AND 3717 OBISPO STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND
MEDICAL OFFICE USES.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT AT FIRST READING, COUNCIL DID PROVIDE
DIRECTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO UPDATE THE SITE PLAN BY
REQUIRING A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE EAST BOUNDARY OF
LOTS ONE AND TWO.
THIS HAS RESULTED IN THE REMOVAL OF WAIVER NUMBER TWO.
WAIVER TWO AS PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A
15-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A 6-FOOT PVC FENCE.
SO THEY ARE STILL MEETING THE 15-FOOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT BUT
NOW WE DO HAVE THAT 6-FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE ENTIRETY
OF THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
ASIDE FROM THAT, REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED
PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS.
11:15:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, SIR.
I'M SORRY.
11:15:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
11:15:58AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER.
WE MADE THE CORRECTIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY COUNCIL AND
IT'S BEEN CERTIFIED BY STAFF.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:16:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO

ITEM 95?
HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:16:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ 25-115, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3724 WEST SAN PEDRO
STREET AND 3717 OBISPO STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, MEDICAL OFFICE,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:17:06AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
11:17:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'M SURE -- I THINK GUIDO IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN RELATE.
I HAD NO SLEEP.
11:17:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SLEPT FIVE HOURS.

11:17:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN
UNDERSTAND ALL THE STUFF HAPPENING THIS MORNING, HOW TOUGH
IT IS TO SLEEP THE NIGHT BEFORE.
11:17:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M USED TO IT.
11:17:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE ARE ON ITEM 95.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING -- SORRY, 96.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WALKED
IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
COULD YOU STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY
OUR CLERK?
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:18:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
STAFF.
11:18:04AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 96 IS REZ 26-09.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3415 WEST
HARBOR VIEW AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS REZONE FROM RS 60 TO RS 50.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING SO THERE'S NO SITE PLAN
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:18:29AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER.
COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A CORNER PROPERTY
AT HARBOR VIEW AND HIMES.
11:18:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT ON THE WOLF?
CTTV -- THERE WE GO.
PUT IT ON THE PUBLIC AS WELL?
THANK YOU.
11:18:52AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THERE WAS A LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
FACT THAT THIS IS SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY
DEVELOPED IN 50-FOOT LOTS.
THIS IS NOT AN INTRODUCTION OF A NEW ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
IT IS A NEW ZONING CLASSIFICATION BUT RECOGNIZING THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S IMMEDIATELY IN THE AREA.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS PLATTED AT 50 AND 53-FOOT LOTS.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT AREA AROUND HERE IS ALL CONFORMING TO
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:19:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE
APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 96?

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM 96, IF YOU WOULD STAND AGAINST
THE WALL TO THE LEFT OR TO YOUR RIGHT.
I'LL CALL YOU UP ONE AT A TIME.
IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COUNCIL PROCEDURES, WHEN YOU
GET TO THE PODIUM, START WITH YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE
THREE MINUTES.
THE LIGHTS WILL GO GREEN WHEN YOU START, WHEN YOU HAVE 30
SECONDS LEFT, THEY WILL GO YELLOW.
WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH YOUR THREE MINUTES, IT IS RED AND
THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO STOP TALKING.
SIR, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:20:09AM >> GIVE SOMETHING TO THE ATTORNEY FIRST?
11:20:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU MAY, YES.
11:20:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
11:20:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TOM CONNELLY.
I'M FROM VIRGINIA PARK.
TAMPA CITY CODE MANDATES AND REQUIRES REVIEW PROCEDURE
SECTION 27-138 AND SUBPARAGRAPH 3 LISTING THE REQUIRED
ACTIONS OF THE REVIEWING STAFF AUTHORITY.
TO EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT UPON
PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING PATTERNS.
IT DOES THIS BY COMPLYING WITH SECTION 27-11 ON THE
OVERHEAD.

CREATION OF NEW LOT.
IT REQUIRES IT TO EXAMINE THE EXISTING LOT DEVELOPMENT
ORIENTATION AND HISTORICAL PRECEDENT PATTERN OF PARCEL
CONFIGURATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A RADIUS OF 1320 FEET.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK DID NOT ADHERE TO THIS MANDATORY
REQUIREMENT.
SHE INSTEAD DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED AN ARBITRARY BLOCK
FACE AREA FOR CONSIDERATION INSTEAD OF THE MANDATED 1320
FEET.
SHE STATED ON THE RECORD, I QUOTE, I WILL SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE UNUSUAL FOR ME.
THIS BLOCK VERY CLEARLY ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET HAS A 50
TO 53-FOOT LOT.
SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY THIS SIDE
OF THE BLOCK.
IF IT WAS THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD NOT AGREE, END QUOTE.
NOWHERE IN THE CITY CODE DOES IT GRANT THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE
A NEW STANDARD FOR REVIEW.
NOWHERE IN THE CODE DOES IT STATE COUNCIL CAN MAKE ITS OWN
CRITERIA FOR DECISIONS.
THE REASON THE CODE STATES 1320 IS SO THAT SPOT ZONING WILL
NOT OCCUR AND ALTER THE PRECEDENT PATTERN UPON WHICH COUNCIL
AND STAFF MUST MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION.
THE REZONING STAFF REPORT UNEQUIVOCALLY STATES ON PAGE 3
THAT STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT

WITH -- IN THE OVERALL STUDY AREA.
FINDING THE PETITION CONSISTENT IS NOT SUPPORTED IF THE
REQUIRED STUDY AREA IS USED TO EVALUATE.
YOU CAN ONLY FIND IT CONSISTENT IF COUNCIL IGNORES THE CITY
CODE REQUIREMENT TO USE 1320 FEET.
COUNCIL AND THE ATTORNEYS PREVIOUSLY STATED WORDS TO THE
EFFECT THAT EACH PETITION MUST STAND ON ITS OWN AND PREVIOUS
DECISIONS CANNOT PLAY A PART IN THIS DECISION.
HOWEVER, WHEN SPOT ZONING IS ALLOWED IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE
REQUIRED ORDINANCES IT DOES AFFECT THE PRECEDENT PATTERN
WHEN SUBSEQUENT PETITIONS COME BEFORE STAFF AND COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL IS BOUND BY ITS DUTY IN SUBPARAGRAPH FIVE, CITY
COUNCIL SHALL MAKE A DETERMINATION WITH REGARD TO THE
APPROPRIATENESS OF THE SITE PLAN ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE
PARTICULAR SITE INVOLVED WITH REGARD TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS.
I POSIT THE COUNCIL DID NOT MAKE A DETERMINATION WITH REGARD
TO SECTION 27-11 REQUIRING THE 1320-FOOT STUDY AREA.
IT SHOULD UPHOLD REZONING STAFF'S FINDING OF INCONSISTENT
AND CITE SECTIONS 27-136, 16 AS REASONS IN ADDITION TO THE
INCONSISTENT FINDING BY STAFF.
IT IS ALSO NOT IN ACCORD WITH LU POLICY 9.3.8.
FACTS MATTER.
AND THE FACTS SHOW THAT THE REQUIRED AREA, 1320-FOOT SHOWS
THAT 57% OF THE PARCELS ARE DEVELOPED WITH THE WIDTH OF

60-FOOT OR GREATER.
COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE THEY MADE WHEN
VOTING TO ALLOW THIS REZONING PETITION TO PROCEED.
THE ONLY REMEDY AT THIS POINT IS TO VOTE TO DENY THIS
PETITION AT THIS READING.
THANK YOU.
11:23:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
CARROLL ANN.
11:24:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. BENNETT HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
THREE NAMES.
TARAH BLUMA.
THANK YOU.
KATRINA BERTOLDI.
THANK YOU.
LINDY ELLOT.
THREE NAMES, THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF 6.
11:24:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CARROLL ANN.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
11:24:29AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
MR. CONNELLY AND I WERE UNAVAILABLE FOR FIRST READING, BUT
TODAY WE'RE HERE WITH NEW EVIDENCE.
COUNCIL IS STRICTLY LIMITED IN WHAT YOU CAN CONSIDER FOR
THIS REZONING.
AT FIRST READING, THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
COUNCIL MEMBERS APPROVED THIS BASED ON LOT SIZES ON ONE SIDE

OF THE BLOCK, STATING THAT IF IT WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE,
THEY WOULD DENY IT.
THE CODE REFERS TO ONE SIDE AS THE BLOCK FACE.
THIS REASONING IS NOT ALLOWED.
WHILE BLOCK FACE CAN SOMETIMES BE CONSIDERED FOR SOME
THINGS, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
HERE IS THE LIST OF BLOCK FACE REFERENCES IN THE CODE.
NONE OF THESE APPLY TO REZONING.
MOST APPLY TO SETBACKS AND PLACES LIKE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
THAT IS WHY STAFF FOUND THIS INCONSISTENT, BLOCK FACE
DOESN'T APPLY.
THE CODE IS EXPLICIT.
YOU MUST CONSIDER THE 1320-FOOT RADIUS, NOT JUST THE BLOCK
FACE OR EVEN THE WHOLE BLOCK.
THE CODE STATES THIS NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES
FOR EMPHASIS.
THE CODE REQUIRES YOU TO ASSESS THE ENTIRE AREA, NOT A
NARROW VIEW.
A NEIGHBORHOOD IS MORE THAN A SINGLE BLOCK FACE OR EVEN A
WHOLE BLOCK.
IT'S ESSENTIAL TO SEE THE BROAD CONTEXT JUST AS YOU
EXPERIENCE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU DRIVE, WALK, OR
BIKE THROUGH IT, NOT JUST ONE SIDE OF ONE BLOCK.
THE CODE IS HUGE SO THE MISTAKE IS UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT STAFF ANALYZED THIS USING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.

THAT IS WHY THEY FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
MR. CONNELLY AND I ANALYZED LOT SPLIT SINCE 2017 BACK WHEN
GLORIA MOREDA WAS DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ABBYE FEELEY WAS A
PLANNER, THEY SAID THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS THE MAJORITY.
GLORIA SAID IN THE '50s AND THE '80s, THE CITY ZONED
NEIGHBORHOODS BASED ON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
THEY COUNTED THE LOTS AND IF MOST LOTS WERE LARGE, THE AREA
WAS ZONED ACCORDINGLY.
THE CODE REQUIRES ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN WITHIN A 1320-FOOT RADIUS.
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LOTS ARE LARGE.
SO REZONING TO SMALLER LOTS IS INCONSISTENT AND VIOLATES
SECTION 27-11.
THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO CONSIDER HOW IT WAS PLATTED A
HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
IT RIGIDLY SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES STAFF AND COUNCIL TO
ANALYZE HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED IN THE 1320-FOOT
RADIUS.
THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS THE MAJORITY.
THIS MAJORITY IS LARGER LOTS.
THAT'S WHY IT'S INCONSISTENT.
STAFF ANALYZED THIS REZONING FOLLOWING THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY FOUND IS VIOLATES THE CODE, AND THEY FOUND IT VIOLATES
THE COMP PLAN AND THEY FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
TAMPA COMP PLAN POLICY LU 9.3.8 WAS CITED BY STAFF BECAUSE

IT REQUIRES, QUOTE, YOU ASSESS THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM PRESENTING NEW EVIDENCE THAT THIS REZONING WILL HAVE A
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON BOTH.
IF YOU MAKE THIS LARGE LOT INTO TWO SMALLER LOTS, YOU ALTER
THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE PERCENTAGES.
YOU IMPACT FUTURE STAFF FINDINGS AND REZONINGS.
YOU WILL CREATE A DOMINO EFFECT.
EVERY LARGE LOT COULD THEN BE SPLIT.
YOU ARE NOT DECIDING ONE REZONING.
YOU ARE CHANGING THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
YOU CHANGE THE PERCENTAGES.
YOU CHANGE FUTURE STAFF FINDINGS.
IT A CHANGE YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HAS ALSO BEEN 30-FOOT SETBACKS.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THAT PATTERN WILL CHANGE BY 10 FEET AND
WHEN OTHER LARGE LOTS FALL LIKE DOMINOES, THEY WILL HAVE
SETBACKS OF ONLY 20 FEET.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THERE IS A GRAND LIVE OAK AND SOME
SPECIMEN LIVE OAKS ON THE LOT.
APPROVING THE SMALLER LOTS PUTS THEM AT GREATER RISK,
MAXIMIZING THE PROFIT ON SMALLER LOTS MEANS CUTTING DOWN THE
TREES SO THEY CAN BUILD AS BIG AS POSSIBLE AND PROBABLY
BUILD TWO POOLS INSTEAD OF ONE.
LARGER LOT MAKES IT EASIER TO RECONFIGURE AROUND THEM AND

GIVE THE TREES A FIGHTING CHANCE.
AT THE CANDIDATE FORUM AT THE GARDEN CLUB, MANY OF YOU SAID
SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL.
IN THE PAST, I HAVE SHOWN YOU THE VIDEOS AND DATA FROM DAVID
HEY AND STEPHEN BENSON'S PRESENTATION SHOWING SOUTH TAMPA
HAD THE HIGHEST GROWTH RATE IN THE CITY.
HERE IS NEW DATA FROM THE CITY'S OWN DEPARTMENT.
DISTRICT 4 IS THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED DISTRICT IN THE
CITY.
ADDING MORE RESIDENTS TO EVACUATION ZONES IS A
LIFE-THREATENING IMPACT.
MORE FAMILIES UNDER MANDATORY EVACUATION IS THE LAST THING
THIS CITY NEEDS.
THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY TO INCREASE THE DENSITY
IN THE ALREADY MOST DENSELY POPULATED SECTION OF THE CITY,
FULL, CITY THAT HAS MOST FLOODING, THE CITY MANDATORILY
EVACUATED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
IT ONLY BENEFITS TWO PEOPLE.
THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE A LITTLE MORE MONEY SELLING THE LOT AND
THE BUILDER WHO WILL MAKE A LITTLE MORE MONEY BUILDING TWO
HOUSES.
THE COMP PLAN SAYS GROWTH SHOULD BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM SOUTH
TAMPA DUE TO ITS GEOGRAPHIC ENVIRONMENTAL AND TRANSIT
OBSTACLES AND GROWTH SHOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARD AREAS WHERE
PEOPLE CAN SHELTER IN PLACE, WHERE THE JOBS ARE, AND WHERE

TRANSIT IS EASIEST.
RESOURCES ARE FINITE.
THERE'S NOT UNLIMITED AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
CONTINUE DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH TAMPA LEAVES LESS FINANCIAL
RESOURCES FOR INVESTMENT ELSEWHERE.
ELSEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEGGING FOR INVESTMENT IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES.
USE THIS NEW EVIDENCE, FOLLOW THE CODE, FOLLOW THE COMP
PLAN, UPHOLD THE STAFF REPORT, AND DENY THIS REZONING.
THANK YOU.
11:30:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:30:24AM >> PRESENTATION WILL BE ON THE ELMO.
11:30:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DROP IT ON THERE AND IT AUTOMATICALLY WILL
COME ON.
PUT IT BACK DOWN.
ON THE VERY, VERY TOP, TIP, TIPTOP, THERE IS A LITTLE WHEEL.
YOU CAN ZOOM OUT SO WE CAN SEE THE WHOLE THING.
11:30:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE ARE SIX NAMES ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER
FORM.
MATT LEVINE.
THANK YOU.
MATT HOWELL.
THANK YOU.
JAMIE HENNEMAN.

SAY THAT CORRECTLY?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
MELISSA WHITNEY.
THANK YOU.
BRIAN WHITNEY.
THANK YOU.
AND MEAGHAN TYLER.
THANK YOU.
SIX NAMES FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
11:31:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE NINE MINUTES.
11:31:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, MELODY LEVINE.
WEST HARBOR VIEW AVENUE.
I WAS ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE PRESENT AT THE FIRST READING AND
ADMITTEDLY I WAS NOT PREPARED AT ALL AND DID NOT UNDERSTAND
THIS.
I COME TODAY WITH NEW INFORMATION, PERTINENT INFORMATION
THAT I HOPE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE FIRST READING,
BECAUSE IT APPEARED FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT THE PETITIONER
AND THE PROPERTY OWNER REALLY PUSHED AN INACCURATE NARRATIVE
THAT THIS IS AREA OF HOME MAJORITY 50-FOOT LOTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, PROPERTY OWNER, ALL 50-FOOT, BEEN THAT WAY

FOREVER, ALL 50-FOOT.
PETITIONER STATEMENT, LOOK AT ALL THE 50-FOOT LOTS IN HERE.
50, 53, 50-FOOT LOTS.
LOOKING DOWN THE STREET ON HARBOR VIEW.
50-FOOT LOTS.
NOT BIG LOTS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK I THINK RELIED ON THIS INACCURATE
INFORMATION WHEN MAKING HER DECISION TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE
REZONING LOOKING AT THOSE 50-FOOT LOTS.
I REALLY WANT TO GO DEEP INTO THE NUMBERS SO THAT COUNCIL
HAS THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBERS.
I WENT THROUGH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WEBSITE AND TRIED TO
ACTUALLY PUT THE LOT SIZES ON HERE FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW.
BUT FIRST, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE HOMES IS GREATER THAN
60-FOOT.
57 PERCENT IS 60-FOOT OR GREATER.
14% OF THE HOMES ARE BETWEEN 55 AND 59 FEET.
THAT MEANS THAT 71 PERCENT OF THE HOMES ARE EITHER 60 FEET
OR GREATER OR CLOSE TO 60 FEET.
THAT'S 71 PERCENT.
EVEN LOOKING DOWN HARBOR VIEW, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE 55, 55,
58, 75, 75, 75, 102, THAT RANDOM LITTLE EARLY OF RS 50, 109,
80, 74, 57, 57, 57, THEY ARE NOT EVEN 50-FOOT LOTS.
AND THEN GOING DOWN HIMES, OUR BUSY ROAD RIGHT HERE, ALL THE
HOMES SOUTH ARE GREATER THAN 75-FOOT LOTS.

IN FACT, IT'S ONLY 18 PERCENT.
SO THE VAST MINORITY OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE 50-FOOT HOMES,
AND I THINK THAT THESE NUMBERS GIVE FURTHER WEIGHT TO
STAFF'S FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.
I KNOW TOM AND CARROLL ANN WENT OVER THE CODE, BUT LOOKING
AT JUST THOSE THREE 50-FOOT HOUSES ON ONE SIDE OF THE LOT IS
LOOKING AT ONLY .009 PERCENT OF WHAT TAMPA CODE REQUIRES.
MY NEXT POINT IS BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
THE CITY COUNCIL PRECEDENT SEEMS TO ALWAYS GIVE DEFERENCE TO
THAT FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.
I RESEARCHED ON ACCELA, RESEARCHING REZONING REQUESTS AND
THEN STREET BY STREET IN BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL AND FOUND FIVE
REZONING REQUESTS.
CITY STAFF FOUND THOSE INCONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN.
AND ALL THREE TIMES THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED THOSE REZONING
REQUESTS.
I FOUND TWO, LIN WOOD AND OAK HELLER WHERE CITY STAFF FOUND
THOSE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND CITY
COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE REZONING REQUESTS.
CITY COUNCIL HERE HAS HUNDRED PERCENT TRACK RECORD OF
FOLLOWING THE CITY STAFF COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION AND CODE IN
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
I WOULD ASK THAT THEY DO THAT HERE.
NEXT POINT IS CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THIS IS

A HUGE CHANGE IN SETBACKS THEY WANT.
IT'S MUCH WORSE THAN I THOUGHT BEFORE WHEN I WAS THINKING IT
WAS 25, 20.
LOOK AT ORIGINAL PLATS -- OR ORIGINAL PLATS ON THE SURVEYS,
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE 30-FOOT BUILDING SETBACKS.
THIS ISN'T A 25-FOOT SETBACK ISSUE.
MY HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS ACTUALLY FURTHER THAN 30 FEET BACK.
WE'RE ABOUT 34 FEET BACK.
I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE REASON REALLY WHY I SAID BEFORE
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS SO OPEN AND AIRY.
IT IS THESE BIG SETBACKS.
PETITIONER IS ASKING YOU TO GIVE THEM SPECIAL TREATMENT TO
BE THE ONLY HOMES IN THIS AREA WITH 20 FEET SETBACKS.
THAT IS THEM BUILDING THEIR HOUSE 14 FEET CLOSER TO THE ROAD
THAN MY HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
AT LEAST 10 FEET CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN ALL THE HOUSES
NEARBY.
I JUST REALLY TO ME THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT SO I
REALLY WANT TO BELABOR THIS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS ME IN MY DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS MY HUSBAND AND I TAKING A MEASURING TAPE TO TEN FOOT
AND HIM STANDING THERE.
THIS IS HOW FAR OUT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR HOMES
FROM WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S A ONE STORY HOUSE BUT THEY WILL BUILD A
TWO-STORY HOUSE.
WE ARE GOING TO BE, LITERALLY MYSELF AND NEIGHBORS SITTING
ON OUR PORCH WHERE WE USED TO SEE THE YMCA POOL AND LOOKING
AT A WALL OF HOUSE.
THE THOUGHT OF THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS TO ME.
I REALLY HOPE CITY COUNCIL PAYS ATTENTION TO THAT SPECIFIC
POINT.
NEXT ISSUE IS THE INCREASE IN FLOODING DUE TO POOR DRAINAGE
HAS BECOME A REAL CONCERN IN THIS AREA.
IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY, BUT IN THE LAST COUPLE
OF YEARS, IT REALLY HAS BECOME THAT WAY.
HERE IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S FEMA FLOOD MAP.
YOU CAN SEE THAT NOW AREAS OF BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL DOWN HARBOR
VIEW AND DOWN HIMES HAVE MOVED INTO THAT .2% ANNUAL CHANCE
FLOOD HAZARD IN A COASTAL ZONE.
HERE IS A CLOSE-UP WHERE YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE THIS
PROPERTY IS, RIGHT ALONG HIMES WHERE THAT IS THE CASE.
HERE IS DATA FROM FIRST STREET WHICH I KNOW A LOT OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS USE.
ZILLOW USES IT.
THIS WAS UPDATED AFTER MILTON.
YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS FLOODING IN BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
THERE WERE HOMES IN THIS AREA THAT FLOODED AFTER HURRICANE
MILTON. AND HERE IS A CLOSE-UP AGAIN.

YOU CAN SEE HIMES, HARBOR VIEW, RIGHT WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS
LOCATED WHERE IT'S BECOMING A PROBLEM.
LASTLY, EVEN WITH THE RAINSTORMS, IT'S ALSO BECOMING AN
ISSUE.
I HAD SAVED IN MY PHONE BECAUSE I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW IT.
THIS IS WHERE A CITY OF TAMPA POLICE OFFICER ACTUALLY
REPORTED ON OUR CITY OF TAMPA FLOOD MAP THAT WE ALL RELY ON,
THAT THAT AREA, WALLCRAFT AND HIMES, RIGHT NEXT TO THIS
PROPERTY WAS FLOODED AND ALMOST IMPASSABLE AFTER A
RAINSTORM.
WE SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING DENSITY.
SHOULD NOT HAVE TWO HOUSES AFFECTING THE DRAINAGE WE
DESPERATELY NEED.
MY NEXT POINT, SOUTH TAMPA DOES NOT NEED MORE POPULATION
DENSITY.
THIS REALLY IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE SITUATION.
I WANT TO START, I THINK, WITH A GREAT QUOTE FROM
COUNCILPERSON CLENDENIN FROM THE EUCLID REZONING THAT I JUST
TALKED ABOUT WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA BEING FULL,
BEING EMPATHETIC WITH THE HOMEOWNER, IN THAT CASE, THERE WAS
53% OF LOTS THAT WERE 60-FOOT OR GREATER.
IN OUR CASE, 57%.
TALKS ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT WANTING TO
PUSH IT IN ADDITIONAL DENSITY, THAT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND
THIS ABSOLUTELY GOES AGAINST WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAS STOOD

FOR.
COUNCILPERSON MANISCALCO AGREED WITH THAT.
THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IN OUR AREA IS BECAUSE
IN THE SMALL LITTLE AREA OF BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL, THERE ARE 21
OTHER LOTS THAT ARE A HUNDRED FEET OR GREATER.
THAT IS 21 OTHER LOTS THAT COULD BE SPLIT.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE LOTS, JUST LIKE OURS, THEY ARE
ALL SURROUNDED BY SMALLER LOTS BECAUSE THAT IS THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE KEPT.
BUT WHAT I REALLY STARTED THINKING ABOUT, AND I THINK
CARROLL ANN TOUCHED ON THIS, TOO, IS OKAY, YOU TAKE AWAY ONE
ONE-HUNDRED FOOT LOT FOR TWO 50-FOOT LOTS.
VERY, VERY SOON THE PERCENTAGES ARE GOING TO CHANGE, AND
THEN TAMPA CITY STAFF, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START
FINDING ALL THESE ZONING REQUESTS CONSISTENT.
AND THEN THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANY OF US CAN DO.
IT'S A SLAM-DUNK FOR THESE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND SPLIT
THE LOTS.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT.
DEFINITELY NOT MAKING IT EASIER FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO GET
THESE LOTS SPLIT.
OF COURSE, THE CURRENT TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLING
SOUTH TAMPA AN AREA OF STABILITY.

REALLY MY LAST POINT IS PETITIONER FOR THEM IT'S ALL ABOUT
PROFIT.
WE KNOW THAT IN EVERY CASE, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S REALLY
ABOUT THE PROFIT BECAUSE HERE IS A TAX WHERE WE ASK THE
PROPERTY OWNER WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR THE PLOT OF LAND.
$950,000.
ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR THIS LOT
OF LAND, AND THEN WE ASKED TO A HOMEOWNER, AND TO A
DEVELOPER.
IMAGINE HOW MUCH HOUSE THESE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
BUILD WHEN THEY ARE BUYING A LOT OF LAND FOR THAT MUCH.
THE VARIANCE, WAIVERS, BUILD UP TO THE 20-FOOT LOT LINE.
SINGLE-FAMILY WANTING TO BUY ON THE BIG LOTS CAN MAKE A BIG
BEAUTIFUL HOME WITH THE YARD ARE PRICED OUT BECAUSE THESE
DEVELOPERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO OFFER MORE.
AND THERE'S JUST NO HARDSHIP IN THE SITUATION.
THERE'S NO HARDSHIP TO THE PETITIONER, BECAUSE WE KNOW
THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE, HUGE BEAUTIFUL HOUSE THERE.
JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF PROFIT
AND ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PROFIT.
AND THEN VERSUS WHAT MATTERS TO THE SOUTH TAMPA VOTERS AND
CONSTITUENTS.
I KNOW YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
BUT THE OVERBUILDING, THE DRAINAGE, THE FLOODING, THE
CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE STRAIN ON INFRASTRUCTURE.

I NEVER COME TO CITY COUNCIL BEFORE THIS.
I DIDN'T REALLY THINK GETTING INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
WAS FRUITFUL.
I'M GLAD I'M HERE.
NOW THAT I'VE BEEN WATCHING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, I
APPRECIATE THAT YOU DO CARE AND DO LISTEN TO US.
THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR.
I JUST DON'T SEE ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR PRIORITIZING THE
PROFIT OF THE DEVELOPERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
HUGE BEAUTIFUL CITY, PLENTY OF PLACES THAT SEEM TO WANT THIS
DEVELOPMENT.
DENSITY REALLY SHOULD BE PUSHED ELSEWHERE.
THERE ARE MANY RESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY.
I HOPE YOU GOT A LOT OF E-MAILS.
I THINK SOMEONE IS GOING TO READ FROM SOME OF THOSE LATER
TODAY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND FOR LISTENING TO US.
I HOPE THIS WAS HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
11:39:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. LEVINE, QUESTION, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY, DID YOU WANT ANY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS INTO
THE RECORD?
11:40:05AM >> AM I SUPPOSED TO?
DOES IT MATTER?

11:40:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN.
11:40:10AM >> YES, I CAN.
LET ME PUT THEM BACK IN ORDER.
11:40:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAND TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE'LL MAKE SURE
IT'S IN THE RECORD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:40:38AM >> JULIA MARTIN.
HOW ARE YOU GUYS TODAY?
I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS, OF WHICH I'M A
MEMBER.
NINE YEARS AGO WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I RETIRED FROM THE AIR
FORCE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 36 YEARS, WE HAD A CHOICE OF
WHERE WE WANTED TO LIVE.
WE CHOSE TAMPA.
A TAMPA STATIONED IN 15 YEARS BEFORE.
WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.
WHEN WE DROVE THE BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL LOOKING FOR A HOME, WE
FELL IN LOVE AGAIN.
WITH THE MATURE OAK TREES SHADING THE STREETS, THE LARGER
LOTS AND ECLECTIC BLEND OF SMALL AND LARGER HOMES, MOST OF
WHICH FIT THE LOT AND THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE BOUGHT A HOUSE ON A BEAUTIFUL TREE-LINED STREET.

NOW THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED.
LARGER LOTS ARE DISAPPEARING AS BUILDERS BUY THEM AND SPLIT
THEM INTO SMALLER ONES.
TWO HOUSES OR MORE APPEAR WHERE ONLY ONE WAS BEFORE.
GRAND OAKS ARE SLAUGHTERED FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN THEY ARE
IN THE WAY OF THE BUILDER'S VISION OF THE HOME, WHICH MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT DOES NOT FIT IN WITH THE SURROUNDING HOMES IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS BENEFITS THE BUILDER, NOT OUR RESIDENTS NOR THE FUTURE
HOMEOWNER.
THIS HAS TO STOP.
IT SHOULD BE ONE LOT, ONE HOUSE, NO MORE OF THIS
EDGE-TO-EDGE BUILDING.
OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOSING ITS APPEAL AND ITS
SAFETY.
WE NEED SMALLER HOMES ON BIGGER LOTS FOR GREENSPACE, FOR
BEAUTY, NOT BIGGER HOMES ON SMALLER LOTS TO FEED BUILDER
GREED.
THE BUILDER DOES NOT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE DOES NOT SEE THE FUTURE IMPACT OF THE ACTIONS.
QUITE FRANKLY, NOR DO YOU ALL AS YOU CONTINUE TO APPROVE
THESE LOT SPLITS AND EDGE-TO-EDGE BUILDINGS.
IT IS -- IF A LOT IS PLOTTED FOR TWO HOMES WHERE ONE WAS
BEFORE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY BECOME TWO
HOMES WHEN THE OLDER HOME IS TORN DOWN.

THIS CAUSES MULTIPLE ISSUES.
EDGE TO EDGE LOT BUILDING.
MORE HOMES FEWER BEFORE INCREASES HARD SCAPE WHICH INCREASES
FLOODING.
WE NOW HAVE FLOODING IN AREAS AS WAS SHOWN BEFORE THAT HAVE
NEVER BEFORE FLOODED BECAUSE THERE'S SIMPLY NO PLACE FOR THE
WATER TO GO.
CONCRETE ISN'T THIRSTY, LIKE GRASS AND TREES.
TRAFFIC, OUR NARROW STREETS CANNOT SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC AND
PARKING FOR MORE HOMES AND RESIDENTS, NOR CAN IT SUPPORT THE
CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC BUILDING MULTIPLE HOMES WHERE ONE WAS
BEFORE.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO SAFELY PARK THAT DOES NOT BLOCK
OUR SIGHT LINES.
AND WE'RE THE ONES AFFECTED BY THIS.
DRIVEWAYS, THE LOT AT THE CORNER OF HARBOR VIEW AND HIMES IS
ON THE CORNER OF A BUSY STREET.
WHERE ARE TWO DRIVEWAYS GOING TO GO?
TWO CANNOT BE SAFELY PLACED ON HARBOR VIEW DUE TO CARS
NEEDING TO EXIT AND ENTER ON THE ROAD.
SIGHT LINES BLOCKED BY LARGE EDGE-TO-EDGE HOMES AND TRAFFIC
MOVES TOO RAPIDLY FOR DRIVEWAYS TO BE ON HIMES.
ALL THE ISSUES NOTED BEFORE AND YET YOU ALL CONTINUE TO
APPROVE THESE SPECIAL CASES IN REZONING DESPITE THE
OPPOSITION OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE.

WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE KNOW OUR STREET AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
PLEASE, THE BUILDERS DO NOT LIVE HERE.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE CALLED BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL FOR A
REASON.
11:43:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU.
11:43:47AM >> THANK YOU.
11:43:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:43:52AM >> HI.
JACQUELINE DESPANDE.
HERE TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED REZONING OF 3415 WEST HARBOR
VIEW.
I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
PUBLIC SPEAKING IS NOT MY FAVORITE.
HOWEVER THIS ISSUE IS IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH
TAMPA AND BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
TO SOME, SPLITTING THE LOT MAY NOT SEEM AS SIMPLE.
LIKE A ONE-TIME ZONING ISSUE.
HOWEVER NOT THAT SIMPLE.
APPROVING THIS REQUEST IS SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WILL CONTINUE TO -- WILL POINT TO

3415 WEST HARBOR VIEW AS JUSTIFICATION FOR FUTURE LOT SPLITS
IN AN EFFORT TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SOUTH TAMPA IS ALREADY FEELING THE STRAIN OF OVERCROWDED
SCHOOLS, SEVERE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND STREET FLOODING AFTER
HEAVY RAINSTORMS, ALLOWING MORE UNCHECKED GROWTH WILL ONLY
WORSEN THE PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE.
MY CHILD CURRENTLY ATTENDS LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ZONED FOR
THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'VE BEEN A PART OF THE SCHOOL
COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN FOUR YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW OVERCROWDED THE
SCHOOL HAS BECOME AND HOW THERE'S NO REALISTIC ABILITY FOR
IT TO EXPAND.
THERE ARE NO PLANS TO BUILD ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO
RELIEVE THE GROWING STUDENT POPULATION.
I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION IN OUR
SOUTH TAMPA SCHOOLS AS GROWTH CONTINUES UNCHECKED.
DEVELOPERS CONTINUE TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS BY SPLITTING THE
LOTS, INCREASING DENSITY, YET OUR SCHOOLS HAVE NOT KEPT
PACE.
THEY SIMPLY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE MORE STUDENTS.
THE SAME CONCERN APPLIES TO THE LOCAL MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH
SCHOOL.
HOMES CONTINUE TO BE BUILT, BUT THE STRAIN PLACED ON SCHOOLS
IS INADEQUATELY CONSIDERED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

THEN THERE IS THE ISSUE OF STREET FLOODING THAT MANY OTHERS
HAVE ADDRESSED.
THE AMOUNT OF STANDING WATER ON SOUTH TAMPA STREETS AFTER A
RAINSTORM SHOULD CONCERN EVERYONE.
STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ALREADY STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP
AND WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DURING
HURRICANES HELENE AND MILTON.
HOMES FLOODED.
NOT ONLY FROM STORM SURGE, BUT JUST FROM RAINWATER WITH
NOWHERE TO GO.
BY -- BUILDERS REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PERMEABLE GROUND
AVAILABLE TO ABSORB THE RAINFALL.
THE LESS SOIL THERE IS TO ABSORB WATER, THE MORE STREET
FLOODING WE WILL EXPERIENCE.
THIS IS A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN OVERDEVELOPMENT AND
FLOODING.
IF WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO, IT ENDS UP IN PEOPLE'S HOMES.
IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ARGUMENT THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS
WILL HELP SOLVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, WHILE
INCREASING THE HOUSING SUPPLY MAY HELP AFFORDABILITY IN SOME
OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, THAT IS SIMPLY NOT THE REALITY
IN SOUTH TAMPA.
THIS LOT, WHICH CURRENTLY CONTAINS A MODEST RANCH HOME, IS
LISTED FOR APPROXIMATELY 925 OR 950 THOUSAND.

IF THAT LOT IS SPLIT, THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL
LIKELY SELL FOR MORE THAN $1 MILLION EACH, WHICH IS
SUPPORTED BY CURRENT MARKET DATA.
BUILDING LUXURY HOMES DOES NOT CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT INCREASES THE PROFITS FOR THE DEVELOPERS, WHICH BRINGS ME
TO MY FINAL POINT.
I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD A LEGITIMATE REASON WHY THIS LOT
NEEDS TO BE SPLIT.
3415 WEST HARBOR VIEW, WILL BE MADE AN EXCEPTION TO THE
CURRENT --
11:46:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:47:04AM >> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS BONNIE DABOL.
I LIVE IN BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
I KNOW FROM TALKING TO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE AND MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS COULDN'T BE HERE
TODAY.
I ALSO KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE NEIGHBORS SENT IN E-MAILS.
I THOUGHT I WOULD USE MY TIME TO READ FROM SOME OF THE
E-MAILS TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T BE HERE OR AT LEAST
SOME OF THEM A VOICE.
IN ONE OF THE E-MAILS FROM A NEIGHBOR OF BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL,
SHE SAID SOMETIMES LOT SPLITS ARE NOT A BIG DEAL.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS.
THIS LOT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE SIZE FOR TWO HOMES AND NEEDS
TO REMAIN ZONED FOR ONE HOUSE AND HAS BEAUTIFUL OAKS IN THE
BACKYARD THAT NEED SPACE AND WHICH ALSO SHOULD BE PROTECTED
AS THEY ABSORB THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER.
THE TWO DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT WOULD BE IN A
DANGEROUS LOCATION RIGHT OFF OF HIMES.
PLEASE, WE ARE NOT CRAZY.
DRIVE BY AND SEE IT YOURSELF.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS REZONE LOT SPLITS I HAVE
EVER SEEN.
ANOTHER NEIGHBOR WROTE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO FOR
SEVERAL REASONS, INCLUDING THE OVERCROWDING OF OUR PUBLIC
SERVICES, INCLUDING SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS, DAMAGES CAUSED TO
THE NATURAL CANOPY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ADDITIONAL
TRAFFIC JEOPARDIZING OUR CHILDREN'S SAFETY AND THE NATURAL
REPERCUSSIONS FROM STORMWATER RUNOFF DURING HURRICANE
SEASON.
ANOTHER ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WROTE, WE SUFFERED FLOODING FROM
MILTON IN THIS AREA DUE TO INCREASED DENSITY OF LARGER
FOOTPRINT HOMES REDUCING LOT PERMEATION.
IN THE FIVE YEARS WE HAVE LIVED HERE, WE HAVE SEEN HOMES GO
UP AND STREETS FLOOD THAT NEVER FLOODED BEFORE BECAUSE
THERE'S NO LAND TO ABSORB THE RAINWATER RUNOFF.
THIS IS FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBOR.

I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO BECAUSE OF MY ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT
TOO HIGH DENSITY AND COMPLETE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN
SOUTH TAMPA.
THE CITY COUNCIL CONTINUES TO ALLOW LOT SPLITTING HAS CAUSED
FLOODING DUE TO LACK OF SATURATION FROM LIMITED GREENSPACE
ON THESE SPLIT LOTS AND POOR DRAINAGE DUE TO INCREASED
RUNOFF.
ANOTHER NEIGHBOR, THIS DRASTICALLY CHANGES THE LOCAL
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, CONTRIBUTES TO FLOODING WITH MORE
IMPERMEABLE SURFACES AND CHIPS AWAY AT THE CHARACTER OF OUR
BELOVED NEIGHBORHOOD AND CRITICALLY, THESE DEVELOPERS JUST
KEEP TAKING DOWN OUR VALUABLE TREE CANOPY AND SIMPLY PAYING
THE FINES.
FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBOR, THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
MANISCALCO FOR VOTING NO DURING THE PREVIOUS REVIEW.
I ENCOURAGE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THEIR
VOTES.
THIS IS JUST A HANDFUL OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD
PERSONALLY FROM TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS, FROM PEOPLE THAT
HAVE WROTE IN ENCOURAGING YOU TO VOTE NO.
AND I ECHO THOSE CONCERNS, AND I ENCOURAGE VOTE NO.
11:50:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT, REBUTTAL.
11:50:21AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS DOES NOT

INCREASE DENSITY.
R-10 IS WHAT THE DENSITY IS, WHETHER YOU HAVE -- EXCUSE ME.
I DON'T LAUGH AT THEM.
11:50:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST FYI, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NEW.
THE AUDIENCE JUST SITS AND LISTEN SO WE GIVE RESPECT TO
EVERYBODY REGARDLESS OF SIDE AT THE PODIUM SO THAT WE CAN
HEAR THEM.
ALSO, WHEN YOU GUYS MAKE NOISE BACK THERE, THE ACOUSTICS ARE
SO GOOD, IT DROWNS OUT EVERYTHING HAPPENING UP HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GO AHEAD, STEVE.
11:50:51AM >> IT INCREASES NUMBER OF UNITS BUT DOES NOT INCREASE
DENSITY.
IT IS CONSISTENT EVEN ACCORDING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
ANALYSIS.
R-10 IS ALLOWED FOR THIS TO OCCUR.
I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT STORMWATER AND INCREASING THE
FLOODING AND ALL THAT.
THERE IS NO WAIVER FOR STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS.
NONE.
SO ANY HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE 1987 HAS NO STORMWATER
RETENTION, NO STORMWATER TREATMENT WHATSOEVER.
ANYTHING BUILT AFTER 1987 MUST COMPLY WITH THE STORMWATER
REQUIREMENTS, WHICH MEANS IF YOU HAVE A NEWER HOME, YOU HAVE
STORMWATER TREATMENT.

IF YOU HAVE AN OLDER HOME, YOU DON'T.
TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
EVERY NEW PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO ANALYZE THE EXISTING STORM
SYSTEM, THE SEWER SYSTEM, THE WATER SYSTEM, AS WELL AS
TRANSPORTATION.
AND IF THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY MUST
MAKE THEM.
THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THAT.
TREES ARE NOT THE ISSUE.
WHATEVER THE COST TO THE LAND IS NOT THE ISSUE.
SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS INCREASED.
THEY HAVE QUADRUPLED THE IMPACT FEE ON SCHOOLS.
SO EVERY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT MUST PAY, I THINK
THE FEE IS UP TO 4,000, $5,000 PER STRUCTURE.
WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPERS, THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME
WITH THEIR MOTHER'S HOME, THIS WAS NOT A DEVELOPER THAT CAME
IN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE ARE 53-FOOT LOTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT SURROUNDS IT.
AND THE 1350 FEET STANDARD IS ONE OF THE STANDARDS.
THE OTHER ONE WAS BLOCK FACE.
AND WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THAT BLOCK?
NOW, THEY HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH REGARDING HOW THAT'S
DONE.
GAVE YOU THIS MAP HERE THAT SHOWED YOU THE SUBJECT PROPERTY

AS WELL AS ALL BEHIND THEM WERE 53-FOOT LOTS.
ALL NEXT TO THEM WERE 53-FOOT LOTS, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
WAS RIGHT HERE.
IT SITS ON THE CORNER, SO THAT CORNER LOT WILL HAVE
EXCEPTIONAL SETBACKS BECAUSE IT SITS ON THE CORNER.
THESE LOTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED SEPARATELY.
THIS ONE HAS -- THESE OTHER ONES HAVE.
AS I SHOWED YOU, ALL OF THOSE DIRECTLY BEHIND IT ARE 50-FOOT
LOTS.
THIS IS WHAT IS CHARACTERIZED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S WHAT IS THERE.
I CAN'T CHANGE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE CAME FORWARD AND ASKED FOR A CONSIDERATION
FOR A CHANGE TO RS 50.
THESE PROJECTS ARE SUPPOSED TO STAND ALONE, AND I UNDERSTAND
IF THIS WERE IN THE INTERIOR OF BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
THIS IS ON THE CORNER ON THE OUTSIDE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE REMAINING CORNER, AND IT'S SANDWICHED
IN BETWEEN OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE 53 FEET WIDE.
YOU CAN'T WAIVE ANYTHING -- THEY TALKED ABOUT TREES.
THAT'S ALL HANDLED AT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IF THERE IS
A GRAND TREE THERE, IT HAS TO BE PROTECTED.
THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT UNLESS ANOTHER HEARING AND
YOU GO FOR A VARIANCE, AND YOU ASK FOR THAT.

THIS IS A STAND-ALONE PROPOSAL.
WE'RE REQUESTING CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
WE TALK ABOUT LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE GENTLEMEN TESTIFIED THAT THEY WERE BORN AND RAISED IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY CAME IN.
THEY WERE TWO BROTHERS AND TOLD YOU THAT WAS THEIR MOTHER'S
HOUSE, AND THEY -- SHE DECEASED AND THEY WERE HAVING TO DEAL
WITH HOW THEY WERE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT DISPOSITION OF
PROPERTY.
THIS IS NOT A SPOT ZONING.
IT RECOGNIZES AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE PATTERN IS ALREADY THERE.
THIS IS A CORNER.
THE INTERIOR OF THIS SUBDIVISION IS DIFFERENT THAN THESE
CORNER PROPERTIES.
AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING CONSIDERATION THAT THIS
IS NOT INTRODUCING A NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARD BUT RATHER IT
RECOGNIZES WHAT IS THERE.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:55:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:55:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. MICHELINI, DID YOU WANT THOSE DOCUMENTS
IN THE RECORD?
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ALREADY.
11:55:39AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I'LL HAND THEM TO YOU IN A SECOND.
11:55:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:55:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO SPEAK FIRST BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
COMMENTS WERE DIRECTED TO ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET EVERYTHING RIGHT EVERY TIME.
WHEN LOOKING AT THIS, I DID LOOK AT THE BLOCK FACE.
YOU ALL WERE RIGHT.
I WAS WRONG.
YOU WERE RIGHT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK AND REMINDING ME OF
THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY ALL I CAN SAY.
I DIDN'T FOLLOW THE RULES AND I SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED THE
RULES.
AND THAT'S ON ME.
YEAH.
11:56:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WASN'T HERE ON THE FIRST ONE.
I CAN TELL YOU AT THAT GARDEN CLUB MEETING I WAS THE ONE
THAT COINED THE PHRASE SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL.
I BELIEVED IT THEN.
I BELIEVE IT NOW.

THERE ARE CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY SOME
PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED THAT KIND OF PUSHES US IN A POSITION.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE.
THIS IS A REALLY ESTABLISHED WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH
TAMPA THAT THE NEIGHBORS DESERVE QUALITY, CONSISTENCY, AND
PREDICTABILITY.
THE ECLECTIC DEVELOPMENT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT MAKES
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO CHERISHED AND SO WONDERFUL.
I SUPPORT AND I THINK MY FELLOW COUNCIL FOLKS -- WE
UNDERSTAND THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GROWING.
WE SUPPORT DENSITY WHERE DENSITY BELONGS.
SOUTH TAMPA, AS WAS POINTED OUT, HAS ABSORBED WAY MORE THAN
THEIR SHARE OF DENSITY.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO ENCOURAGE THAT THERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO PUT STUFF IN TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND
AREAS.
SO THIS IS JUST NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IF WE KEEP -- WHERE ARE THE TREES GOING TO GO?
WE BUILD MINIMUM SIZE LOTS.
WE ARE ABSOLUTELY EXCLUDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVER
REESTABLISH ANY TYPE OF GRAND TREES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
SO WHERE WE CAN PRESERVE THAT, WE SHOULD PRESERVE THAT.
THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PLANT.
WE'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND PLACES TO PLANT TREES IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA.

WHEN WE HAVE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THESE TYPE OF
ECLECTIC LOT SIZES, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE LOTS IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PROBABLY CAN'T PUT ONE IN BECAUSE OF THE
OLDER ESTABLISHED HOUSES.
LARGER LOTS, BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
IT ADDS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE
FUTURE PERSON THAT WILL LIVE ON THE REDEVELOPED LOT IN AN
APPROPRIATELY REDEVELOPED HOME.
SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT TYPE OF QUALITY
OF LIFE.
I GET IT.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE OF
SOMETHING.
WE ALL GET IT.
BUT AS THE FOLKS THAT SIT UP HERE AND HAVE TO MAKE THE
DECISIONS, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF ALL AGAINST THE
NEEDS OF MAYBE ONE.
SOMETIMES THAT GOES ONE WAY.
SOMETIMES THAT GOES THE OTHER.
THIS IS JUST NOT ONE OF THOSE.
THIS IS A NO-BRAINER FOR ME.
THIS IS A HARD NO.
THIS IS PRESERVING ONE OF OUR CHERISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND
QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:58:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID.
THE IDEA OF SOUTH TAMPA AS A WHOLE IS PARTLY -- IS FULL IS
PARTLY FROM THE OVERDEVELOPMENT OF SOUTH OF GANDY PRIOR TO
THE TIME WE GOT ON COUNCIL.
THE ROADS, THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY NORTH-SOUTH ROADS AND THEY
ARE ALL BUSY AND DURING STORMS WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO
EVACUATE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT.
HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU ALL WANT.
11:59:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG WANTED TO SPEAK FIRST.
11:59:23AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS GET IT
RIGHT, GETTING DIFFERENT INFORMATION.
WE TRY OUR BEST.
I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT TO COME OUT HERE AND COME TO MEETINGS.
THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT AND GIVING US
INFORMATION.
11:59:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
I'LL DEFER TO YOU FOR THE MOTION.
11:59:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO SAY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
BLOCK, CERTAINLY IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SPLIT LOOK.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE AREA, IT DOES NOT.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
11:59:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:59:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I VOTED NO LAST TIME.

I'LL BE CONSISTENT AND VOTE NO AGAIN.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND YOU ALL CAN ADD IN IF YOU THINK OF
SOMETHING ELSE, MOVE TO DENY NUMBER 96, FILE REZ 26-09, AND
CITE 27-11 WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE 1320-FOOT RADIUS AND
LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGES AND BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, THE
MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES IN THE AREA ARE DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
AND THEN LAND USE POLICY 9.3.8 WHICH SAYS THE CITY SHALL
ASSESS THE POTENTIAL POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ON THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
AND THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND THE EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED THIS IS DIFFERENT.
LAND USE POLICY 9.5.1, WHERE IT SAYS THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT
LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS, MEANING EVERY AREA CAN'T BE
LARGE MULTIFAMILY OR DENSER.
THE LAND USE POLICY 9.5.2 MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THE DENSITY
CHARACTERISTICS, LAND USE POLICY 9.5.4, MAINTAIN THE CURRENT
DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
PROTECT AREAS OF THE LOWEST DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, LAND USE
POLICY 13.2.6, TALKS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE DESIRED CHARACTER
OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD U LAND USE OBJECTIVE 1.2, TALKS ABOUT
THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY
WHICH CHAIR CLENDENIN WAS JUST REFERRING TO.
LAND USE POLICY 1.2.10, ENSURE THAT REDEVELOPMENT DESIGN OF
NEIGHBORHOODS ENHANCES THE DISTINCTIVE, NATURAL, HISTORIC

AND CULTURAL CHARACTERISTICS, WHICH THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED
IS THE OPPOSITE ON THIS.
LAND USE POLICY 1.2.16 PROMOTE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTS OF THE
HIGHEST QUALITY WHICH EMPHASIZE THE SPECIAL IDENTITY OF EACH
OF THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOODS.
LAND USE POLICIES 18.14.10 AND LAND USE POLICY 18.14.2 TALK
ABOUT CONSERVING PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO A
NEIGHBORHOOD'S DESIRED CHARACTER, ALSO JUST A NOTATION THAT
THERE'S NO ECONOMIC HARDSHIP HERE.
THE PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REPLACING HOUSES LIKE
THIS WITH MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSES, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD -- ANYBODY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?
12:02:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU HIT IT ALL.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST ONES I'VE HEARD.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A YES MEANS NO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:02:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:02:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:02:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:02:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:02:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:02:47PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:02:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.

12:02:49PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:02:53PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:02:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, STEVE.
12:02:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, BEFORE -- I KNOW WE HAVE TWO MORE
ITEMS, AFTER THOSE, IT IS MY INTERN GREG'S LAST DAY.
12:03:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PEOPLE ARE WAITING.
DO YOU WANT TO DO THE NEXT TWO?
12:03:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NEXT TWO AND THEN LUNCH BREAK?
12:03:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE NEXT THREE.
AND THEN LUNCH BREAK.
97.
12:03:34PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 97 IS REZ 26-27.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3106
NORTH MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE 1/2.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO RM 18.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, SO THERE'S NO SITE PLAN OR
ELEVATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:03:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
12:04:04PM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MATT SIENK.
I AM THE PETITIONER AND REP.

RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
12:04:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANY PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 97?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
12:04:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I READ 95.
12:04:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3106 NORTH MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE
1/2 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:04:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
12:05:05PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:05:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NUMBER 98.
12:05:11PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER

DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ITEM NUMBER 98 IS REZ
26-03.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1307 WEST
LASALLE STREET.
IT'S TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
REVISIONS ARE COMPLETE.
CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
12:05:39PM >> JAMES LASCARA, PLEASED WITH THE FINDING OF CONSISTENCY
FROM STAFF AND APPRECIATE THE INITIAL APPROVAL AT FIRST
HEARING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
12:05:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER
98?
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:06:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 98, FILE REZ-26-03, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
1307 WEST LASALLE STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:06:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
12:06:37PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
12:06:40PM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:06:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION
ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 98 FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
LET'S MOVE ON TO 99.
12:06:55PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL, McLANE EVANS,
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
ITEM 99 BEFORE YOU IS A PUBLIC MEETING OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA'S GOVERNING BOARD AT CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER

IT IS IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST FOR THE CITY TO UTILIZE
ITS OWN SERVICES, EMPLOYEES, AND EQUIPMENT TO COMPLETE THE
UTILITY LOOP WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
THIS IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER CHAPTER 255.20 FLORIDA STATUTES.
ANYTIME THE CITY WISHES TO CONSIDER USING ITS OWN EMPLOYEE
SERVICES OR EQUIPMENT TO CONDUCT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT THAT EXCEEDS ESTIMATED COST OF $300,000.
DURING THIS PUBLIC MEETING, INTERESTED PARTIES MAY PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT AND QUALIFIED CONTRACTOR OR VENDOR WHO COULD
HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE PROJECT HAD IT BEEN COMPETITIVELY BID
MUST BE GIVEN REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE
REGARDING THE PROJECT AND THE ACCURACY OF THE CITY'S
ESTIMATED PROJECT COST.
PROPER NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE
TAMPA BAY TIMES ON APRIL 8, 2026.
AND THE DETAILED ITEMIZATION OF EACH COMPONENT OF THE
ESTIMATED PROJECT COST AND DOCUMENTATION OF THE CALCULATION
METHODOLOGY WAS MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION AT THE
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IN DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT IT IS IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST
FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO PERFORM THE UTILITY LOOP WATER MAIN
REPLACEMENT PROJECT USING ITS OWN SERVICES, EMPLOYEES, AND
EQUIPMENT, CITY COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER THE ESTIMATED COST OF
THE FULL -- THE PROJECT FULL ACCOUNTING FOR ALL COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH PERFORMING AND COMPLETING THE WORK,

INCLUDING THE ITEMIZATIONS REQUIRED BY STATUTE SUCH AS
EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS, EQUIPMENT COSTS AND
MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE COSTS, THE COST OF DIRECT MATERIALS
TO BE USED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING
MATERIALS PURCHASED BY THE CITY.
OTHER DIRECT COSTS, PLUS A FACTOR OF 20% FOR MANAGEMENT,
OVERHEAD AND OTHER INDIRECT COSTS.
THE WATER DEPARTMENT'S ESTIMATED COST FOR THIS PROJECT IS
260 -- SORRY, $2,632,442.
AGAIN, SINCE I MESSED THAT UP SO MANY TIMES.
$2,632,442.
12:09:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NUMBERS ARE HARD.
12:09:09PM >> YEAH.
THAT INCLUDES -- THAT'S WHY YOU GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND NOT
MEDICAL SCHOOL.
SO ALL OF THOSE FACTORS THAT I LISTED ACCORDING TO STATUTE
ARE INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER I GAVE YOU.
SECTION 25520 FLORIDA STATUTES ALSO REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO
CONSIDER THE ACCURACY OF THE ESTIMATED COST IN LIGHT OF ANY
INFORMATION THAT MAY BE PRESENTED AT THIS PUBLIC MEETING,
AND WHETHER THE PROJECT REQUIRES AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER
OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES OR AN INCREASE IN CAPITAL
EXPENDITURES FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, EQUIPMENT, OR OTHER
CAPITAL ASSETS AS OF THE TIME OF THIS MEETING, NO WRITTEN
COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.

IF AFTER HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT PROVIDING QUALIFIED
CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE
AND CONSIDERING THE FACTORS I JUST LISTED IF CITY COUNCIL
DETERMINES IT IS IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST FOR THE CITY
TO UTILIZE ITS OWN SERVICES, EMPLOYEES, AND EQUIPMENT TO
COMPLETE THE UTILITY LOOP WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT,
CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT THE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING THIS
DETERMINATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE FILE NUMBER.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS.
ADDITIONALLY, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND DIRECTOR OF WATER RORY JONES IS
AVAILABLE.
12:10:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:10:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE STATUTE OR IN THE
CITY THAT DETERMINES WHAT THE COST WOULD BE OF CITY STAFF IF
WE OUTSOURCED IT?
SO THE WATER DEPARTMENT WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO SUPERVISE
THE OUTSOURCED STAFF AND THEN CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION WOULD
HAVE TO OBSERVE IT, IS THERE A STANDARD PERCENTAGE WE USE OF
THE COST OF CITY STAFF AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ON TOP OF
AN OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT?
12:10:53PM >> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO TECHNICAL STAFF FOR THAT.
12:10:56PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
YES, WE HAVE DONE THAT ANALYSIS, COUNCILMAN.

WE HAVE TAKEN THE AVERAGE OF OUR CONTRACTS THAT WERE
COMPETITIVELY BID, AND THE PRICE THAT MS. EVANS JUST TOLD
YOU IS 40% OF THOSE COSTS.
SO WE'RE SAVING 60% ON THOSE CONTRACTS.
12:11:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU MEAN THE COST OF STAFF AND CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION SUPERVISING -- SUPERVISING AN OUTSIDE
CONTRACT WOULD BE.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY COST OF
WHATEVER THESE STAFF WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING OTHERWISE,
PRESUMABLY THEY HAVE DAY JOBS, WHAT ARE THEY NOT DOING THAT
THEY WOULD BE DOING?
DO WE HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR THAT?
12:11:42PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THESE WERE STAFF AD SPECIFICALLY FOR
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TWO YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE, IN THE 2023
BUDGET.
AND THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOWED THOSE KINDS OF SAVINGS
THAT I QUOTED.
THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY TO DO CONSTRUCTION WORK.
THEY WEREN'T DOING OTHER WORK.
THEY WERE HIRED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:12:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT IT?
RORY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
12:12:15PM >>RORY JONES:
I WAS GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
REALLY, BY SELF-PERFORMING IN-HOUSE, WE DON'T NEED CONTRACT

ADMIN TO INSPECT IT.
IT FREES UP RESOURCES ELSEWHERE.
SO THOSE CONTRACTOR COSTS DON'T INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEDICATE TO INSPECTION FOR
THAT.
IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR US.
12:12:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
OKAY.
12:12:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY, CAN I ASK THE YOUNG LADY FROM
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR
THE RECORD.
12:12:48PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
12:12:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE REASON I ASK THAT, THIS YOUNG LADY IS
DEPARTING US IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE HER DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB
KEEPING MR. JONES, MR. BAIRD, MR. MIRANDA IN ORDER ON ALL
WATER ISSUES IN THE CITY.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS.
I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GETTING A MUCH BETTER
OPPORTUNITY TO BE SOMETHING MUCH HIGHER THAN YOU ARE TODAY
AND YOU DESERVE IT VERY MUCH.
12:13:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMEBODY LOCK THE DOORS.
12:13:15PM >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND ALL OF COUNCIL.
IT HAS BEEN MY HONOR AND PLEASURE TO SERVE THE CITY AND I

REALLY WILL MISS IT.
IT'S ABOUT BEEN WONDERFUL.
I WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE AS A CITIZEN AND BE ACTIVE AND
INVOLVED.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU ALL -- THAT I HAVE
GOTTEN HERE.
YOU'LL STILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF MY SERVICES UNTIL JUNE 1.
SO THANK YOU.
12:13:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE ON AND DO ITEM 100 BEFORE LUNCH AND
THEN OUR CEREMONIAL THING AFTER 100.
12:14:24PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
FILE VAC 25-10.
APPLICANT IS RAFAEL CRESPO AND YUNIA MORALES.
REPRESENTATIVE NAME IS STEPHEN MICHELINI.

THE PROPERTY ADDRESS 3203 WEST CORDELIA STREET.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY
LYING NORTH OF CORDELIA STREET, SOUTH OF IVY STREET, EAST OF
LINCOLN AVENUE, AND WEST OF MATANZAS AVENUE.
SOME BACKGROUND, THE VACATING REQUEST, APPLICATION WAS FILED
ON MARCH 11, 2025.
THIS APPLICATION WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD ON JULY 17, 2025 AND
WAS DENIED.
THERE WAS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ON JULY 30th, 2025 AND
THAT MOTION WAS TO RESCHEDULE FOR FEBRUARY 5th OF 2026.
THAT'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY CONTINUED UNTIL TODAY.
THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 6,080 SQUARE
FEET.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED.
THIS IS THE PLAT OF THE JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION OF
THE CREATION OF THE ALLEY HERE.
DEDICATION.
THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS SHEET SHOWING BLOCK 69.
HERE IS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO VACATE BLOCK 69 ALLEY.
TO ALSO SHOW PREVIOUSLY VACATED ALLEYS AROUND THE COMMUNITY
HERE.
IF YOU NOTICE, THERE'S ABOUT 12 TO 14 BLOCKS, AND OUT OF

THOSE 12, THERE ARE THREE STILL OPEN.
12:16:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THREE THAT ARE STILL OPEN.
12:16:22PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
STILL ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE
THREE OF THOSE ARE.
THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH LINCOLN AVENUE.
THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST
FROM MATANZAS.
AND STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY WASTEWATER, FRONTIER,
SPECTRUM, AND TECO, SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES,
COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 WITH REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION AND
SITE DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN
A VACATED AREA.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:17:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:17:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY ASK, SO YOU ONLY HAVE THE
PICTURES OF THE ALLEY THAT'S ON TODAY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE
PICTURES OF WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, THE ONES OPEN OR CLOSED?
12:17:14PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
NO.NO.
12:17:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ARE YOU SAYING ALL ALLEYS ARE THE SAME
SIZE THERE?
12:17:19PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
IN THE PLAT ITSELF.
I CAN BRING THE PLAT UP.
12:17:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HIMES TO LINCOLN TO MacDILL.
THOSE ALLEYS RUN ALL THE WAY FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.

12:17:28PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN REALLY SEE, WHEN I
ZOOM IN.
INSIDE THIS PLAT OF JOHN H. DREW'S, THEY ARE GOING TO BE
SIMILAR IN WIDTH, 10 FEET.
12:17:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT DOES ALREADY IS MEAN?
12:17:42PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
TEN FEET WIDE BY THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCK,
HOWEVER MANY LOTS THERE ARE.
12:17:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL THE LOTS FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE TO TAMPA
BAY BOULEVARD ARE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME SIZE?
12:17:56PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
YEAH, ESPECIALLY FROM CORDELIA STREET, THE
REQUESTED -- THE APPLICANT'S STREET NORTH TO TAMPA, HERE
FROM HERE TO TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, YES.
THAT'S CORRECT.
12:18:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T THINK SO.
12:18:13PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
WHETHER IT LOOKS THAT WAY OR NOT IN THE
FIELD, IT LOOKS THAT WAY LEGALLY ON THE PLAT.
12:18:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TAKE YOU AND THE REST OF A CITY ON A
TOUR, COLUMBUS DRIVE, TO SEE WHAT IS REALLY THERE.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, I'M SAYING THEY ARE NOT.
IF YOU DRIVE FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE ON MacDILL NORTH,
YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT THE ALLEYS ARE SIX FOOT, EIGHT
FOOT, TEN FOOT, AND MAYBE LARGER, AND SOME ARE OPEN AND SOME
ARE CLOSED.
SOME THAT ARE NOT OPEN STILL HAVE A FENCE AROUND THEM ALL.
12:18:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

12:18:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE REASON STAFF OBJECTS TO
THE VACATING?
12:18:51PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
YES.
I THINK JONATHAN SCOTT MAY BE AVAILABLE FROM TRANSPORTATION.
HIS WERE MORE LAND USE POLICY OBJECTIONS AND THE OTHER
OBJECTION WAS WASTEWATER.
IT WAS DUE TO STRUCTURES INTO THE ALLEY THAT THEY THOUGHT
THAT MAY COVER THE LINE ITSELF.
THERE IS A WASTEWATER SEWER LINE THERE.
THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE SINCE BEEN CITED AND ORDER GIVEN FROM
THE MAGISTRATE TO REMOVE THOSE.
12:19:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JONATHAN IS ONLINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE --
12:19:22PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
I WANT TO SPEAK KIND OF TO THE SEWER LINE
ITSELF.
I SPOKE WITH JEFF HILTON WHO MADE THE OBJECTION.
AND TO GET SOME BACKGROUND ON THE LINE ITSELF.
LET ME SHOW YOU THE IMAGE, AERIAL IMAGE.
THERE IS CURRENTLY A MANHOLE IN THIS LOCATION AND ONE
APPROXIMATELY HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE BLOCK.
IT FEEDS DIRECTLY TO MATANZAS.
BUT EACH ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS BENEFIT FROM THAT LOT.
WE DO HAVE AN EASEMENT RESERVATION IN PLACE ON THE ORDINANCE
THAT WOULD PROTECT THAT LINE.
AND IT HAS SINCE BEEN PVC LINE, THAT SEWER LINE ITSELF TO
MAKE MAINTENANCE LESS MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
12:20:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
12:20:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JONATHAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU
WANTED TO ADD AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD?
12:20:38PM >> OUR OBJECTION IS JUST MAINLY TO THE REASON THAT THERE
WASN'T REALLY A PUBLIC BENEFIT AND THEY BUILT STUFF WITHOUT
PERMITS.
WE FOLLOW THE COMP PLAN, ENCOURAGES OPEN ALLEYS AND
GREENWAYS, ET CETERA.
SO THAT IS THE MAIN OBJECTION THAT WE HAD ON THIS ONE.
12:21:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD,
PLEASE.
12:21:02PM >> JONATHAN SCOTT WITH MOBILITY.
12:21:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE --
12:21:10PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU?
YES.
STEVE MICHELINI.
REPRESENTING THE APPLICANTS HERE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE APPLICANTS HERE.
VICTOR IS THERE.
HE ACTUALLY FILED A PETITION.
ALL OF THESE FOLKS ARE AFFECTED BY THE VACATING AND ARE HERE

TO SUPPORT THAT THE CITY VACATE THAT ALLEY.
THESE PROPERTIES, THERE'S 14 OUT OF 19 PROPERTIES HAVE SOME
KIND OF ENCROACHMENT ON THE ALLEY.
MOST OF THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT IN THE '50s, AND THE LOTS
ARE ONLY 98 FEET DEEP.
AND SO THAT GREENSPACE BECAME BACKYARDS.
IT BECAME A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
THIS IS THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY HERE.
THERE ARE FENCES.
WE SAT DOWN WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY STAFF, WITH ROSS, AND HE'S
BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST
THING TO DO WOULD BE.
WE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF FILING AN ENCROACHMENT
PETITION FOR EACH OF THEM INSTEAD OF VACATING AND THEN WE
RAN INTO OTHER ISSUES THAT PREVENTED US FROM DOING THAT.
THIS IS THE ALLEY.
WHERE YOU SEE THE WHITE FENCES, THAT'S ALSO THE ALLEY.
IT'S ALL FENCED OFF.
WE HAVE SHEDS AND THINGS THAT CAN BE MOVED EASILY.
BUT THE EASEMENT WILL PROTECT THE CITY IN TERMS OF REPAIRS
THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE WASTEWATER LINE.
WHEN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OBJECTED, THEY CITED A
NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE ACCESSIBILITY FOR GARAGES.
IT'S ONLY TEN FEET WIDE.
YOU COULDN'T USE -- AND THERE ARE NO GARAGES BACK HERE.

YOU COULDN'T USE IT ANYWAY.
THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE ALLEY, RIGHT IN HERE.
WE HIRED A SURVEYOR WHO WENT OUT AND PREPARED A LIST OF
ENCROACHMENTS, AND -- THERE IS THE LIST.
THEY WENT FROM ONE END OF THE STREET TO THE OTHER.
THIS IS THE EAST END LOOKING WEST.
IT'S BLOCKED OFF.
THIS IS THE WEST END.
AND IT BASICALLY GOES AROUND THAT ONE POWER POLE.
THE CODES INDICATE, AND AS MR. MIRANDA POINTED OUT, THAT
THEY HAVE TO BE USABLE AND ACCESSIBLE.
THIS NEVER WAS.
AND IF YOU ARE IN THE AREA, HERE IS THE MAP OF ALL THE
DIFFERENT ENCROACHMENTS LISTED OUT.
WE'VE SENT THAT TO ROSS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND WE LOOKED AT
IT, AND WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES, AND
WE CAME UP WITH THE LAST POSSIBLE REMEDY IS TO VACATE.
AND THEN WE STILL WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ISSUE, THERE'S
CODE -- I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY DID THIS, BUT THE CODE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICE WAS ASKED TO GO OUT, AND THEY CITED ALL
OF THESE PEOPLE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE 14 OR 15 CODE CASES THAT I'LL HAVE TO
STRAIGHTEN OUT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE PROPERTY
-- THE ALLEY VACATED.
SO WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THE COUNCIL TO VACATE THE

ALLEY SO WE CAN GO ON TO STEP TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, WHICH IS
THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES, THE STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT
OVER THE YEARS WITHOUT PERMITS.
WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP.
THESE ARE ALL DECENT FOLKS.
THIS IS NOT A WEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY ARE ALL WORKING-CLASS FOLKS.
IF YOU COULD JUST STAND UP.
ALL OF THESE FOLKS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
AFFECTED BY THIS, AND I'LL HAVE TO MEET WITH EACH ONE OF
THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE REST OF THIS.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:25:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION THAT I KNOW
THEY ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THINGS FROM THAT SEWER
LINE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:25:42PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
WE'LL STILL HAVE TO FIX THAT TO THE
SATISFACTION OF WASTEWATER.
12:25:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:25:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

THE AYES HAVE IT.
12:26:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER VAC-25-10, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED
NORTH OF CORDELIA STREET, SOUTH OF IVY STREET, EAST OF
LINCOLN AVENUE AND WEST OF MATANZAS AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT
OF JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2, HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND THE REASON I DID READ IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO
MUCH, THE PATTERN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE CLOSING OF THE
ALLEYS.
ONLY THREE LEFT.
12:27:04PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
I KNOW YOU CLOSED THE HEARING --
12:27:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, CLOSED.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL.
12:27:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

12:27:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:27:20PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:27:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:27:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:27:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:27:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOW, THIS ONE PAINS ME BECAUSE I REALLY
DON'T WANT TO.
I THINK WEST TAMPA ALLEYS ARE CHERISHED.
HEARING FROM MY FELLOW COUNCILPERSONS AND THE AUDIENCE, I
WILL SAY YES.
THANK YOU.
12:27:39PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 4th, 2026
AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:27:53PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, THERE WAS A CITYWIDE PROGRAM TO
VACATE ALLEYS LIKE THIS THAT WERE UNDERUTILIZED STARTING IN
'87.
AND THEY WERE GOING SYSTEMATICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND
THEY STOPPED THAT PROGRAM WHEN THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY.
12:28:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'VE GOT TO FIX THE ALLEY SITUATION.
DO AN ASSESSMENT, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH ALLEYS.
12:28:14PM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
ANYWAY.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.

12:28:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN AND
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALLEYS ARE SALVAGEABLE AND WHICH
ALLEYS AREN'T AND MOVE FORWARD ON IT.
WE'VE CONCLUDED OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM UP UNTIL
LUNCH.
NOW WE GET SPECIAL PROGRAMMING.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
12:28:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR GREG TO COME UP, IF YOU WOULD, SIR.
12:28:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU SING OR DANCE?
12:28:45PM >> NO, CAN'T SING.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
12:28:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREG HAS BEEN OUR INTERN IN OUR OFFICE HERE AT
DISTRICT 7 FOR SOME TIME.
GREG I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM.
HE IS JUST A VERY WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN.
YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON.
I CAN TELL YOUR PARENTS DID A GREAT JOB ON YOU.
THEY REALLY, REALLY DID.
I'M SURE THEY CONTINUE TO DO.
YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL DEMEANOR AND WAY ABOUT YOURSELF.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, LIKE, YOU COULD PASS FOR A FIRST-YEAR
PROSECUTOR OR FIRST-YEAR ASSOCIATE AT BANKER LOPEZ OR
SOMETHING.
YOU LOOK LIKE A LAWYER.

THAT'S A COMPLIMENT, BY THE WAY, AND EVERYTHING.
GREG IS A PERSON WITH VERY GOOD VALUES.
HE IS A HARD WORKER, HAS A GREAT FUTURE AHEAD OF HIM.
HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM COLORADO AND GOES TO THE UNIVERSITY OF
SOUTH FLORIDA.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY MATCHING TODAY WHICH IS
KIND OF IRONIC.
BUT IF YOU KNOW GREG, THERE IS A LOT ABOUT HIM.
HE HAS A VERY GOOD SOCIAL CONSCIENCE.
HE CARES A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE, HUMAN DIGNITY, SOCIAL JUSTICE.
VERY DEVOUT CHRISTIAN.
SAYING FROM ST. FRANCIS ASSISI, PREACH ALWAYS AND SPEAK IF
YOU HAVE TO.
I'VE SEEN THE WAY YOU TREAT PEOPLE.
I KNOW IT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR CHRISTIAN FAITH.
YOU ARE A VERY GOOD PERSON.
GREG ATTENDS AT CHURCH, MISSION HILL CALLED NOW, SO USED TO
BE TEMPLE TERRACE BAPTIST WHEN I WAS A KID.
I WENT THERE FROM PRESCHOOL -- STILL THERE ARE THERE AT
TEMPLE TERRACE.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO GIVE GIFTS TO MY INTERNS WHO ARE HERE, AND
ONE OF THE THINGS I GOT FOR GREG, BECAUSE, AGAIN, HE'S GOT A
GOOD POLITICAL VALUES AND ALSO VERY GOOD CHRISTIAN, AND WHEN
I THINK OF A PERSON WHO IS A GOOD LIBERAL AND WHO IS JUST A
GOOD PERSON WHO IS A VERY DEVOUT CHRISTIAN, I THINK OF OUR

39th PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER FROM GEORGIA.
TO ME, THAT IS A GREAT COMPLIMENT TO YOU BECAUSE JIMMY
CARTER, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF HIM AS
PRESIDENT BUT NOBODY CAN SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM, WHEN HE
LOST THE PRESIDENCY IN 1980, HE WAS A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT.
DIDN'T SEEK TO DIVIDE OUR COUNTRY.
DIDN'T SEEK TO GO POLITICAL ROUGHHOUSING.
HE WENT AND BUILT HOMES AND WENT TO THE DEVELOPING WORLD AND
HELPED PEOPLE WHO WERE HUNGRY AND NEEDED HELP.
THAT IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT YOU ARE.
JUST GOD BLESS YOU.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO KNOW YOU.
YOU ARE A FRIEND.
I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR YOU,
BUDDY.
12:31:05PM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
12:31:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, IF HE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING.
12:31:10PM >> LITTLE BIT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
THAT WAS AWESOME.
TOO MUCH HONORS THAT I DON'T THINK I DESERVE BUT I
APPRECIATE IT.
GREGORY SCHRIMMEL.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

IT FEELS WEIRD BEING OUT HERE.
USUALLY WATCHING IN THE BACKGROUND.
I'LL KEEP IT QUICK.
YOU GUYS HAVE TO GO TO LUNCH.
STARTED THIS YEAR I THOUGHT I KNEW A TON ABOUT POLITICS.
VERY QUICKLY PROVEN WRONG.
LOCAL POLITICS IS SO AMAZING.
I LEARNED SO MUCH.
THROUGHOUT THIS TIME -- THROUGHOUT MY TIME HERE IN THE
SPRING I LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT LOCAL POLITICS, HOW IT CAN BE
A LITTLE BIT MESSY AT TIMES AND HOW IT ALSO IS SO IMPORTANT
AND CRITICAL TO OUR COUNTRY'S FUNCTIONING.
I LEARNED ABOUT HOW POLITICAL OFFICE FUNCTIONS, SO MUCH
ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND LEARNED ALL ABOUT HOW OUR
AWESOME CITY OF TAMPA FUNCTIONS.
THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE FOR GIVING ME THIS
WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
I'M PRIVILEGED TO HAVE MET EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU TO MY LEGISLATIVE AIDES WHO WERE MY SUPERVISORS,
VIERA'S LEGISLATIVE AIDES WHO ARE MY SUPERVISORS, SEBASTIAN
NOW AND DURING THE FIRST HALF OF MY TIME IT WAS BRANDON.
IF SHE'S WATCHING.
THANK YOU FOR THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND GROW AND
ENVIRONMENT TO FOSTER THAT GROWTH AND ULTIMATELY THANK YOU
TO COUNCILMAN VIERA.

YOU PROVIDED A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT A POLITICIAN SHOULD
BE AND HOW HE SHOULD CARE FOR CONSTITUENTS.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
12:32:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU WERE FIRST-YEAR LAW STUDENT.
YOU WERE PRACTICING BEFORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
IN MY MIND.
GREAT GUY.
THANK YOU MR. VIERA FOR BRINGING THIS GENTLEMAN TO US.
12:32:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GREG, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HERE SO
LONG.
YOU'VE BEEN SUCH A GREAT PRESENCE, YOUR SMILE AND
PERSONALITY HAS BEEN SUCH A JOY TO BE AROUND.
I'VE REALLY ENJOYED YOU SMILING IN THE HALL AND SAYING
HELLO.
IT'S BEEN GREAT.
I THINK BASED ON THAT HORRIBLE ACCUSATION THAT WAS LODGED AT
YOU BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD CONSULT A
LAWYER FOR A LAWSUIT BECAUSE I THINK YOU LOOK HONEST.
I THINK YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE INTEGRITY AND YOU DON'T LOOK
ANYTHING LIKE A LAWYER.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
12:33:26PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

12:33:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE -- DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
WE'RE GOOD.
IT IS 12:33.
WANT TO DO ONE HOUR?
1:30 FOR LUNCH.
12:33:41PM >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]

01:34:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
CALL THE ROLL.
01:34:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:34:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:34:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:34:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
01:34:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
01:34:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
01:34:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:34:36PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:34:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WELCOME BACK.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
THE HEARINGS THIS AFTERNOON ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, RAISE YOUR
RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
[SWEARING IN]
01:35:09PM >> I DO.
01:35:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 101.
01:35:13PM >>DANA CROSBY-COLLIER:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL,
DANA CROSBY-COLLIER.
ITEM NUMBER 101 IS THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING.
RELATED TO PROPERTY AT 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
IN THE INITIAL APPLICATION TO THE ARC, THE APPLICANT
REQUESTED APPROVAL OF THREE VARIANCES AND THREE CERTIFICATES
OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THE LATTER WAS FOR ADDITIONS TO THE PROPERTY.
AT THE TIME OF THE ARC MEETING, TWO CERTIFICATES OF
APPROPRIATENESS AND ONE VARIANCE WERE GRANTED.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE ARC FOUND THAT THE APPLICANT FAILED TO
MEET ALL SIX CRITERIA ON TWO OF THE VARIANCES, THE ARC
DENIED THOSE.
TWO VARIANCES BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR REVIEW IS A VARIANCE OF A
VEHICULAR ALLEY ENTRANCEWAY SETBACK FROM 18-FOOT TO SIX-FOOT,
SIX INCHES.
VARIANCE FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, NORTH SIDE YARD
SETBACK FROM THREE FOOT TO 1.95 INCHES.
RELATED REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATENESS CERTIFICATE THAT WAS
WITHDRAWN AFTER THESE VARIANCES WERE DENIED.
ON FEBRUARY 20, THE OWNER-AGENT SOL FLEISCHMAN APPEALED TO
THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THIS MATTER WAS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING
AT YOUR MARCH 5 MEETING.
SO YOU WILL FIND IN THE BACK-UP MATERIALS FOR THIS ITEM, WE
INCLUDED A COPY OF THE INITIAL APPLICATION, THE STAFF'S
REPORT, STAFF'S PHOTO PRESENTATION TO THE ARC, PUBLIC
COMMENT, THE ARC MEETING MINUTES, AND ARC WRITTEN DECISIONS.
OWNER'S PETITION FOR REVIEW AND HIS BACK-UP AND THE OWNER'S
AFFIDAVIT ESTABLISHING COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S NOTICE
REQUIREMENTS.
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PACKET THAT INCLUDES THE HEARING
PROCEDURES FOR TODAY'S MEETING, AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTIONS.
THERE WILL BE TWO MOTIONS ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THIS
PRESENTATION.
I ALSO INCLUDED EXCEPTION 27-61 OF THE CODE, WHICH IS THE
REVIEW PROCEDURES AND SECTION 27-144 OF THE CODE, WHICH
IS ARC VARIANCE CRITERIA.
PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-61-BEJ-2, CITY COUNCIL WILL APPLY A
DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW IN THIS MATTER.
SO YOUR DECISION IS NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD CREATED DURING
THE ARC MEETING, AND YOU MAY TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO ACCEPT
NEW EVIDENCE.
IN YOUR REVIEW, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD STAND IN THE SHOES OF
THE ARC AND APPLY ALL APPLICABLE ORDINANCES TO THE FACT
BEFORE ARRIVING AT YOUR DECISION.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE VARIANCES BEFORE YOU TODAY.
VARIANCE OF THE VEHICULAR ALLEYWAY FROM 18 FEET TO 8.6
INCHES AND VARIANCE NORTH SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM THREE FEET
TO 12 INCHES.
BASED ON THE FAILURE TO MEET ALL THE CRITERIA, THE ARC
DENIED THE TWO VARIANCES.
HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOUND AT 27-114.
NUMBER ONE, THE ALLEGED PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES ARE UNIQUE
AND SINGULAR TO THIS PROPERTY OR WITH RESPECT TO THE
STRUCTURE OR BUILDING THERE ON AND NOT SUFFERED -- NOT
COMMONLY SUFFERED WITH OTHER PROPERTIES, STRUCTURES, OR
BUILDING SIMILARLY SITUATED.
HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT FROM THE
ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT
JUSTIFY A VARIANCE.
THAT IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.
NUMBER THREE, THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, DOES NOT
SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND
WELFARE OF THE PROPERTIES AFFECTED BY THE ALLOWANCE OF THE
VARIANCE.
NUMBER FOUR, THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH AND SERVES THE
GENERAL INTENDED PURPOSE OF TAMPA'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
AND THE ADOPTED COMP PLAN.
NUMBER FIVE, ALLOWING THE VARIANCE WILL RESULT IN
SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING DONE CONSIDERING THE PUBLIC
BENEFITS INTENDED TO BE SECURED BY THE CODE AND THE
INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT WILL BE
SUFFERED DUE TO THE FAILURE OF COUNCIL TO GRANT THE
VARIANCE.
NUMBER 6, THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, WILL ALLOW A DEVELOPMENT
CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN PATTERN AND THE PATTERN OF
DEVELOPMENT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT -- IN THIS CASE, THE
HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
INDIVIDUAL FINDINGS ARE ON BOTH VARIANCES, THE SELF-CREATED
AND SUBSECTION 6.
THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR
HYDE PARK.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARC -- EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID.
AFTER CONSIDERING ALL THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCED IN TODAY'S
HEARING, INCLUDING THE CODE PROVISION THAT THE ARC CONSIDERED
IN MAKING THE DECISION, CITY COUNCIL MAY AFFIRM OR APPROVE
THE ARC DECISION, WHICH IS TO DENY THE VARIANCES, OVERTURN
THE ARC'S DECISION, AND GRANT THE VARIANCES OR REMAND THE
MATTER BACK TO THE ARC WITH DIRECTIONS INDICATING A BASIS
FOR YOUR REMAND.
TWO MOTIONS WILL BE REQUIRED, AS I MENTIONED, BECAUSE TWO
VARIANCE DENIALS THAT ARE NOW SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW.
JOHN MARSH FROM TRANSPORTATION AND RON VILA FROM HISTORIC
PRESERVATION ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ASSIST YOU
IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS.
I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RON SO YOU CAN HEAR
FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
01:40:48PM >>RON VILA:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
RON VILA.
I AM A PLANNER WITH HISTORIC PRESENTATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING EVERYTHING INTO FOCUS FOR YOU.
AS DANA STATED, ARC-26-000000-97.
WE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION ON DECEMBER 16, 2025.
IT WENT TO THE ARC FEBRUARY 2, 2026.
THERE WERE MULTIPLE REQUESTS.
THERE WAS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPROVED FOR
PRIMARY STRUCTURE WITH AN ADDITION ALONG WITH THREE
VARIANCES.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
YOU SEE THE TRIANGULAR-SHAPED LOT HERE THAT HAS CHALLENGES.
THIS IS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS HERE.
THE ADDITION TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WAS IN THE BACK, BUT
WE WILL FOCUS ON THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
BEFORE I ZOOM IN ON THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH
SOME PHOTO PRESENTATIONS.
PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS CIRCLED AND HIGHLIGHTED IN THE
GREEN.
IT IS ON SOUTH BOULEVARD.
IT IS JUST OFF OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
YOU SEE THE GEOMETRY OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
AND THERE IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE BACK.
THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE IS THE ONE WE ARE
DISCUSSING THIS AFTERNOON.
THIS IS THE HYDE PARK VICINITY MAP FOR THE LOCAL DISTRICT.
YOU SEE THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE IT IS AT.
AND AN OVERHEAD AERIAL.
AN ALLEY RUNS THROUGH THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
FOCUSING ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, JUST A COUPLE OF SHOTS SO
YOU GET THE INSPIRATION OF THE VERNACULAR OF THE PRIMARY
STRUCTURE.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
AND THIS IS THE FRONT AND THE SOUTH SIDE, FOCUSING ON THE
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
THIS IS FROM SOUTH BOULEVARD LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY.
PRIMARY STRUCTURE, DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, WITH A
GARAGE DOOR OFF THE FRONT.
YOU HAVE A PORTE COCHERE THAT THE VEHICLE HAS TO GO DOWN.
GET CLOSER TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
THIS IS THE FRONT.
I WILL SHOW YOU DRAWINGS OF WHAT THEY PRESENTED.
A LITTLE VISOR THAT IS A ONE-STORY ADDITION OFF THE FRONT,
AND THAT PORTION OF THE FRONT, THE LOWER SECTION IS EXPANDED
TO HOUSE A VEHICLE.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THE SIDE OF THE ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED WITH THAT VISOR AND SMALL
ADDITION TO THE FRONT.
MOVING TO THE REAR OF THAT DETACHED STRUCTURE, THIS LITTLE
AREA FOR STORAGE WILL BE REMOVED AND THE REQUEST IS TO COME
IN OFF THE ALLEY AND PUT A GARAGE DOOR HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEY.
THIS IS FROM BOULEVARD LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEY, AND AS WE
CONTINUE DOWN THE ALLEY, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME CURB CUTS
OFF THE ALLEY THAT EXIST TODAY.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION OVER HERE.
AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THE ALLEY, YOU SEE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO A
PROPERTY THAT FACES BAYSHORE.
THE ALLEY AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
THE LITTLE LEAN TO THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED.
AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE GARAGE DOOR HERE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS IS THE
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE.
THERE ARE THREE VARIANCES THAT DANA WENT OVER.
BUT TO FOCUS ON THOSE.
VARIANCE NUMBER ONE IS TO ADD TO THE FRONT, WHICH IS IN THE
GRAY, SO THE CAR CAN FIT IN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS
INDICATED BY THE DRAWINGS.
THIS ONE WAS DENIED.
SECOND VARIANCE WAS APPROVED TO VEST IN THE EXISTING
CONDITION.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE OFF THE REAR THAT WAS DENIED AS WELL
WAS A VEHICULAR ACCESS COMING DOWN THE ALLEY, GOING INTO THE
GARAGE WITH THE NEW GARAGE DOOR.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE DISTANCE THAT TRANSMIT THE IS LOOKING
FOR.
AND MR. MARSH IS HERE IF YOU WANT SOME SPECIFICS.
THESE ARE THE DRAWINGS THAT WERE SHOWN AT THE ARC.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
LOOKING DOWN THE VEHICULAR ACCESS, DOWN THE DRIVEWAY, THIS
IS EXISTING.
YOU HAVE THE GARAGE DOOR.
AND I TALKED ABOUT THE LITTLE VISOR THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT
IN THERE AND BUMPING IT OUT TOWARD THE STREET TO ACCOMMODATE
THE VEHICLE.
AND THIS IS WHAT I SHOWED THE LITTLE LEAN FOR STORAGE
THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE GARAGE DOOR
OFF THE ALLEY.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS AS WELL.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE LITTLE BUMP-OUT TOWARD THE FRONT TO
HOUSE THE AUTOMOBILE -- TO ADDED THAT ADDITIONAL INTERIOR
SQUARE FOOT.
JUST TO REFOCUS, I BLEW EVERYTHING UP FOR YOU SO IT IS
EASIER TO READ.
THE DIMENSIONS ARE THERE.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN VARIANCES COME FORWARD TO
THE ARC, STAFF DOES NOT OPINE ON THOSE.
IT IS THE FINDING OF FACT THAT DANA READ INTO THE
RECORD.
AND I DO HAVE THEIR HARDSHIP HERE.
AND THE -- THE DENIAL LETTERS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION.
I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU NEED THESE IMAGES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
01:46:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:46:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE GARAGE CURRENTLY?
01:46:39PM >>RON VILA:
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE.
I THINK THE INTERIOR FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK IS 15 FOOT.
01:46:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CURRENTLY?
01:46:51PM >>RON VILA:
CURRENTLY.
THIS IS THE ADDITION THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TO ALLOW FOR --
FOR A STANDARD CAR.
01:46:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT HAPPENED -- WHAT IS THE -- HOW MUCH
ADDITION DO THEY WANT TO ADD?
01:47:04PM >>RON VILA:
I WILL LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT IT
APPEARS TO BE ABOUT FIVE FOOT.
NOT A DIMENSION ON THIS PLAN.
01:47:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
AND HOW OLD IS THIS STRUCTURE?
01:47:17PM >>RON VILA:
A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT DATES BACK TO THE
EARLY 1900s.
IT'S INDICATED ON THE SANBORN MAP.
AND THE ONE ON THE SANBORN MAP IS THIS STRUCTURE.
IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
01:47:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
01:47:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS THE OBJECTION FROM THE ARC BOARD
FOR VARIANCE NUMBER ONE?
01:47:41PM >>RON VILA:
NUMBER ONE, IT FAILED TO MEET -- FAILED TO MEET
THE BURDEN FOR CRITERIA TWO AND CRITERIA SIX WITH RESPECT TO
THE PRESENTATION.
AND THOSE.
01:47:51PM >> WE GOT THEM HERE.
01:47:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:48:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT -- IF YOU CAN
PUTTING -- THE SITE PLAN BACK UP.
DO THEY HAVE THE PROPER DIVISION BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE
MAIN HOUSE WITH THE ADDITION?
THEY HAVE THE FIVE FEET?
01:48:22PM >>RON VILA:
ALL CODE IS REQUESTING IS FIVE FOOT.
THEY HAVE A DIMENSION LINE OF FIVE FOOT --
01:48:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOUR INCHES.
I GUESS I AM -- I MEAN, I AM NOT -- I AM NOT GOING TO OPINE.
01:48:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT, THANK YOU.
01:48:40PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
SOL FLEISCHMAN JR.
324 HYDE PARK AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I AM AN ARCHITECT, FLEISCHMAN, GARCIA, MELOSKY.
AND A LITTLE BIT OF MY BACKGROUND.
FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION BACK
IN THE 1990s.
CHAIRMAN FOR MOST OF THE YEARS.
I AM A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER OF THE TAMPA'S HISTORIC
PRESERVATION BOARD.
SERVED ON THAT FOR 20 YEARS, AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS MY
LOVE AND PASSION.
AND ONE OTHER BIT -- WHAT INTERESTED ME OF THIS HOUSE AT 842
SOUTH BOULEVARD IS THAT I ACTUALLY WAS BORN IN TAMPA HEIGHTS
HOSPITAL, BUT CAME HOME TO 849 SOUTH BOULEVARD RIGHT ACROSS
THE STREET WHERE MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED AND MY PARENTS LIVED
FOR TWO YEARS.
SO I GREW UP MY FIRST TWO YEARS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO WE HAVE DONE A REALLY NICE ADDITION TO THIS HOME.
AND WE GOT TRIPPED UP A LITTLE BIT BY THE CONTRIBUTING
ACCESSORY GARAGE STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS PROBABLY BUILT IN 1929
WITH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THE VARIANCE WAS BASED ON THE
HARDSHIP THAT IT IS AN EXISTING BUILDING BUILT IN 1922.
AND IT'S ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF INCHES FROM THE NORTH
PROPERTY LINE AS IT EXISTS.
SO WE NEED TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF IT FOR THE CURRENT SIZE
OF VANS, SUVs, AND LARGE AUTOMOBILES.
IT IS ABOUT 19 OR 20 FEET IN DIMENSION INSIDE AND OUT, AND
WE ARE ASKING FOR A EIGHT-FOOT EXTENSION AND THAT'S ALL.
SO WE JUST WANT TO EXTEND THE NORTH PROPERTY SET BACK TO
ACCOMMODATE THIS SIMPLE EXTENSION.
SO WE ARE REDUCING THE REQUIRED THREE-FOOT SETBACK FOR
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOWN TO ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF FEET.
ON THE ALLEY SIDE WHICH IS O'BRYAN LANE, WE ARE ASKING FOR A
SIX-FOOT, SIX-INCH SETBACK RATHER THAN THE 18 FEET THAT THE
CITY CODE REQUIRES OFF AN ALLEY.
AND I HAVE A LOT OF -- I CAN GO OVER THE PLANS THAT RON SO
WONDERFULLY PRESENTED, BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME SPECIFIC
HOMES ON ORION, ON OUR BLOCK.
THIS FIRST, AS WELL AS OUR HOUSE, IS AT 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
THE YELLOW DASHED LINE IS THE EDGE OF THE ALLEY, AND WE ARE
ASKING AGAIN FOR A VARIANCE TO 6.6 FEET ON ONE SIZE.
BUT 12 AND CHANGE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
NUMBER ONE HERE IS 829 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
AND THE GARAGE DOOR IS SIX FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING
PAVEMENT.
SO IT DOESN'T MEET THE 18-FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.
NUMBER TWO, THIS BUILDING AT 408 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
THE GARAGE DOOR IS TEN FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING
PAVEMENT.
DOESN'T CONFORM TO THE 18-FOOT SETBACK.
NUMBER THREE, 832 SOUTH BOULEVARD, GARAGE DOOR IS 14 FEET ON
AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING PAVEMENT.
DOES NOT MEET THE 18-FOOT SETBACK.
NUMBER FOUR AT 819 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, GARAGE DOOR IS FIVE
FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING PAVEMENT.
AND THEN NUMBER FIVE, AT 810 SOUTH BOULEVARD, GARAGE DOORS
HAVE 12 FEET ON AVERAGE FROM EXISTING PAVEMENT.
SO WE HAVE FIVE HOMES ON O'BRIAN ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY
THAT DON'T COME CLOSE TO MEETING THE 18-FOOT SETBACK.
THERE IS GOOD REASON AND MR. MARLOW WIL TELL YOU THAT.
IF YOU PARK A CAR IN FRONT OF YOUR GARAGE DOOR, YOU ARE OUT
OF THE PATH OF THE ALLEY.
WELL, OUR HOUSE HAS 120 FEET AND A DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF
THE HOUSE.
SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF AREA FOR THE OWNER AND HIS GUESTS TO
PARK IN THE FRONT.
HAVING THE GARAGE DOOR IN THE BACK ALLOWS HIM TO HAVE EASY
AND SAFE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY TO EXIT OR TO ENTER AND NOT
HAVE TO BACK 120 FEET THROUGH A 11-FOOT SLOT IN THE EXISTING
CARPORT TO GET TO SOUTH BOULEVARD.
SO OUR HARDSHIP TO CONFORM WITH THE CITY CODE, THE EXISTING
CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS THE HARDSHIP AS IT WAS BUILT ONE
FOOT, NINE AND A HALF INCHES FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
AND DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE CURRENT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE
SETBACK OF THREE FEET.
AND WAS DESIGNED AS A GARAGE BUT WILL NOT ACCOMMODATE THE
MODERN-DAY LARGE CAR, VAN AND SUV.
AND THE GARAGE LOCATED TO THE REAR OF THE SITE WITH THE
ACCESS TO THE ALLEY IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND USE.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND IT IS TYPICAL THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
01:56:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:56:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
IT WAS SAID EARLIER THAT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE HAS BEEN
VESTED.
01:56:13PM >> YES.
01:56:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VESTED.
SO WE ARE REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THE -- THE SEPARATION FOR
THE NEW SECTION, NOT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE?
01:56:25PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
01:56:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
JUST MAKING SURE ON THAT.
01:56:30PM >> THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THE EIGHT-FOOT ADDITION.
01:56:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
01:56:41PM >> THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
01:56:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
ON THIS ITEM?
YES, SIR.
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE.
01:56:49PM >>JOHN MARSH:
JOHN MARSH, URBAN PLANNER 2, TRANSPORTATION,
ENGINEERING DIVISION.
I DID THE REVIEW.
JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
27-156-428 IS 18 FEET FOR A SINGLE VEHICLE -- ENTRANCE FOR A
SINGLE VEHICLE AND TEN FEET FOR DOUBLES.
SEVERAL OF THE EXAMPLES SHOWED DOUBLES, SO 10 TO 14 FEET,
THEY MEET CODE.
I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
01:57:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
DOES STAFF HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
RON, ANYBODY?
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
HEARING IS CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL?
OR ANY DISCUSSION?
MR. SHELBY?
01:58:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS A REMINDER, IN THE PACKET PROVIDED TO YOU
BY THE ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS TO DECIDE.
YOU HAVE TWO SAMPLE MOTION PAGES IN YOUR PACKET FOR YOUR
REVIEW, AND, AGAIN, YOU ALSO HAVE ONLY THE SECOND PAGE OF
YOUR PACKET, BEGINNING WITH BOTTOM OF THE PAGE NUMBER ONE,
CONSIDERING WITH NUMBER SIX ON THE BACK SIGNED OF IT, THE
HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND MAKE YOUR DECISION.
01:58:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
01:58:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MAKE ONE OF THE MOTIONS.
AGENDA ITEM 101 ARC 26-97.
THIS IS THE NORTH YARD SETBACK FROM THREE FOOT TO 1.9
INCHES.
I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ARC AND APPROVE THE STRUCTURE FROM
THREE FEET TO ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF AS REQUESTED
ON ARC 26-97 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD
BECAUSE WE FIND THAT THE APPLICANT MEANT ALL OF THE SIX
CRITERIA ON 27-114 OF THE CITY CODE REQUIRED TO MEET FOR A
VARIANCE AS FOLLOWS.
I DISAGREE.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
I BELIEVE THAT SINCE THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VESTED, THIS IS
AN ADDITION TO THE STRUCTURE TO FIT A CAR THAT FITS TODAY'S
STANDARDS.
I FOUND THAT -- AND I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL AFFECT
THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE HISTORIC
PATTERN OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BECAUSE IT IS INSIDE THE
YARD.
SO THAT'S -- THAT IS MY MOTION.
02:00:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION -- I WILL REITERATE, I CONCUR
WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S ASSESSMENT OF IT.
ALSO, IT'S AN AREA OF TOWN WHERE PARKING IS CRITICAL, AND WE HAVE
A GARAGE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE A TRUE -- A VEHICLE IS PROBABLY
A GOOD THING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE WE GO.
OKAY.
HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE
MOTION.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
02:00:37PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:00:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
AND WE HAVE ONE MORE.
02:00:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THAT HAS BEEN DELINEATED AS VARIANCE TWO.
AND I BELIEVE THERE IS VARIANCE ONE REMAINING.
02:00:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE?
02:00:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED TO OVERTURN THE ARC DIVISION --
IS FOR VARIANCE ONE.
THE ENTRANCE AND SETBACK FROM 18 FEET TO 6'6" NUMBERS AS
REQUESTED IN APPLICATION NUMBER ARC 26-97 FOR PROPERTY AT 482
SOUTH BOULEVARD BECAUSE WE FIND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET
ALL SIX CRITERIA AS STATED IN 27-114 FOR A VARIANCE AS FOLLOWS.
NOT THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS
WAS STATED IN VARIANCE TWO, ALTHOUGH DIFFERENT, THERE IS NOT
A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
IT'S -- HE MENTIONED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW VEHICLES ARE
MODERN VEHICLES, HOW THEY NEED TO FIT.
THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO HAVING ACCESS
INSTEAD OF THE 120 FEET FROM A VERY NARROW ENTRANCEWAY ON
THE DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS JUST -- IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
DO I HAVE TO TAKE FURTHER WITH MORE SCIENTIFIC FACT?
BUT I THINK IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
02:02:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SAY THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE HAS BEEN
VESTED ALREADY.
02:02:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALREADY THERE AND GRANDFATHERED IN IF
YOU WANT TO SAY.
02:02:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STRATEGIC GOAL FOR THE CITY TO UTILIZE
ALLEY ACCESS FOR VEHICLES SPECIFICALLY IN OUR HISTORIC
AREAS.
AND IT IS THAT TYPE OF VARIANCE AND ACCESS TO THESE GARAGES
OFF THESE ALLEY IS FAIRLY STANDARD IN HYDE PARK.
IT NOT A UNIFORM SYSTEM.
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
02:02:34PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:02:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
102.
02:02:42PM >>TAYLOR BOLLT:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS TAYLOR
BOLLT, AND I AM WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 102, WHICH
CONCERNS VRB APPLICATION 25-38 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 541
LUCERNE AVENUE.
PETITIONER FOR THIS APPLICANT WAS MR. JOSEPH FONTANA.
THE VARIANCE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED FROM THE BOARD
WAS AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT FROM 35 FEET TO 53 FEET ALONG WITH
A REDUCTION OF THEIR FRONT YARD SETBACKS FROM 25 FEET TO 4.9
FEET.
THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DENIED THE PETITIONER'S
APPLICATION ON FEBRUARY 10, 2026, AND BEFORE I PROCEED
FURTHER, COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS PETITION
FOR REVIEW WILL BE LIKELY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER PETITION
FOR REVIEW YOU HAVE HEARD BEFORE.
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THIS APPLICATION WAS NOT DENIED FOR
SUBSTANTIVE REASONS OR ON ITS MERITS BUT RATHER FOR
PROCEDURAL REASONS.
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE VARIANCE BOARD HAS RULES AND
PROCEDURES, SPECIFICALLY RULE 7.1 STATES THAT AN APPLICANT
SHALL APPEAR IN SUPPORT OF THEIR APPLICATION OR REQUEST;
HOWEVER, IF THE APPLICANT FAILS TO APPEAR ONCE, THE BOARD
IS ALLOWED TO GRANT THEM A CONTINUANCE.
IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAR A SECOND TIME, THE BOARD
CAN DENY THE APPLICATION.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE SITUATION WE HAVE HERE TODAY.
PETITIONER'S APPLICATION WAS FIRST MEANT TO BE HEARD ON
DECEMBER 9 IN 2025; HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THE HEARING, THE
APPLICANT SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND
THEN PROCEEDED TO NOT SHOW UP AT THE HEARING IN SUPPORT OF
THEIR APPLICATION OR THE REQUEST OF CONTINUANCE.
SIMILARLY, THE APPLICATION WAS CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY 10,
2026 HEARING DATE WHERE, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A
WRITTEN REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND
THEN PROCEEDED NOT TO SHOW UP AT THE HEARING DATE IN SUPPORT
OF THE APPLICATION OR THE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE STEVEN EYSTER FOLLOWING MY
INTRODUCTION, TO PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED FACTUAL OVERVIEW
THAT LED TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD PROCEDURAL DENIAL OF
THE APPLICATION.
A REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL, TODAY'S HEARING IS GOVERNED BY
CODE SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS J-2, WHICH STATES THIS IS A
DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING, AND THEREFORE, COUNCIL SHALL NOT BE
LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW OF DOCUMENTATION UPON WHICH THE DENIAL
WAS BASED.
I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED WITH A NUMBER OF BACKGROUND
MATERIALS.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THAT, I BELIEVE, MR. SHELBY
HAD JUST HANDED OUT TO EVERYONE.
FIRSTLY, YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S
RULES OF PROCEDURES, ALONG WITH SOME SAMPLE MOTION LANGUAGE
FOR POTENTIAL ACTION THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE AFTER
TODAY'S HEARING ALONG WITH A COPY OF STANDARD RULES OF
PROCEDURES THAT GOVERNS STANDARDS OF REVIEW AND COPY OF CODE
SECTION 27-61 AS WELL.
CITY COUNCIL, AFTER TODAY'S HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THE
ABILITY TO MAKE THREE POSSIBLE APPLICATIONS.
FIRST WOULD TO BE AFFIRM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD OF
PROCEDURAL DENIAL OF THE PETITIONER'S APPLICATION.
SECOND IS TO REMAND THE APPLICATION BACK TO THE VARIANCE
REVIEW BOARD WITH SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS OR INSTRUCTIONS FOR
THEM TO FOLLOW.
LASTLY, CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERTURN THE
VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S PROCEDURAL DENIAL; HOWEVER, GIVEN
THE UNIQUE FACTUAL SITUATION PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD
TODAY, IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION IF THE BOARD DOES
CHOOSE TO OVERTURN THIS PROCEDURAL DENIAL, WE REQUEST THAT THIS
APPLICATION STILL BE REMANDED BACK TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW
BOARD AS IT WAS NEVER HEARD ON ITS MERITS, AND THEY SHOULD
BE HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND
NOT AT CITY COUNCIL ON A PETITION TO REVIEW.
I WILL BE AVAILABLE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT IF NOT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO MR. EYSTER.
02:07:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
OKAY.
02:07:27PM >>STEVEN EYSTER:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
JUST TO RECAP --
02:07:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
02:07:38PM >>STEVEN EYSTER:
STEVEN EYSTER, URBAN PLANNER 2.
PLANNING AND GROWTH.
VRB 25-38.
OWNER IS JOSEPH FONTANA.
APPLICANT WAS RICE.
PROPERTY IS AT 541 LUCERNE AVENUE.
ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
THE REQUEST -- THE VARIANCE REQUEST HAD TWO REQUESTS.
ONE TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT FROM 35 FEET TO 53 FEET OR 61
FEET FROM MEAN SEA LEVEL, WHICH IS GROUND TO SKY.
AND THEN REDUCE THE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 25 FEET TO
4.9 FEET.
THE ZONING PROPERTY IS RS-60.
SO PER 27-156, THE FOLLOWING ARE IN PLACE.
RS DISTRICTS HAVE A 25-FOOT FRONT SIDEWALK, 25 REAR,
SEVEN-FOOT SIGNED SETBACK AND 35-FOOT HEIGHT.
THIS IS THE APPLICATION TIMELINE.
THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED ON AUGUST 13, 2025.
SECOND AND ROUTED ON SEPTEMBER 2.
SCHEDULED FOR THE NOVEMBER 18 HEARING.
OPPOSITION LETTERS WERE RECEIVED AFTER NOTICES WERE SENT OUT
BETWEEN NOVEMBER 4 AND NOVEMBER 17.
THERE WAS NO QUORUM AT THE NOVEMBER 18 HEARING.
SO ALL CASES GOT CONTINUED TO DECEMBER.
ON DECEMBER 4, A REQUEST OF CONTINUANCE WAS SUBMITTED TO
MOVE TO THE FEBRUARY 10 HEARING.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR FOR THE CONTINUANCE REQUEST.
ONLY PROVIDED A MEMO.
ON FEBRUARY 9, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A SECOND CONTINUANCE
TO THE MARCH 10, 2026 HEARING.
THE APPLICANT THEN -- THE HEARING WAS THE NEXT DAY ON
FEBRUARY 10.
APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR.
THE BOARD DENIED THE CONTINUANCE AND THE CASE PER THE RULES
AND PROCEDURES.
THIS IS A MORE DETAILED OVERVIEW TIMELINE OF THIS ADDRESS,
SHOWING BACK IN -- BRING IT INTO FOCUS.
COMPLAINT IN 2015 FOR WORK WITHOUT PERMITS.
AND THEN FOLLOWING A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL TRADE PERMITS
AND UTILITY ACTIONS, AND FINALLY IN 2025, VARIANCE THAT WAS
APPLIED FOR.
02:10:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS IN THE BACK WATCHING
THIS, AND I HEARD SOMETHING FROM THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN.
DID YOU SAY FOR THIS TO BE REMANDED BACK TO THE VARIANCE
REVIEW BOARD?
OR THAT -- I SEE IT IS ONE OF OUR OPTIONS, BUT I MISSED THAT.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT.
02:10:25PM >> OF COURSE, TAYLOR BOLLT WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING, COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, ARE THE
THERE POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS WHICH IS TO
AFFIRM, REMAND, AND WHAT I BELIEVE YOU OVERHEARD DISCUSSING
THE POSSIBILITY OF OVERTURNING THIS DECISION, THAT IF YOU DO
DECIDE TO OVERTURN IT, THAT IT STILL BE REMANDED BACK.
02:10:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WAS THE PART.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
02:10:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF THAT IS GOING TO
PRESENT OR DOES THAT CONCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION?
02:10:57PM >> THAT, I BELIEVE, CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AT THIS
TIME.
02:11:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
APPLICANT AND PETITIONER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. SINGER.
WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY HALL.
02:11:11PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
I AM JOINED BY THE APPLICANT AND HOMEOWNER MR. FONTANA AND HIS
SON, ALEX.
IT'S MY 20th YEAR PRACTICING, WHICH I FIND SOMEWHAT HARD FOR
BELIEVE.
AND THIS IS A DAY OF FIRSTS FOR ME, BECAUSE I'M HERE TO ASK
YOU TO APPROVE A VARIANCE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED.
SO THIS IS A VERY STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCE.
AND I WOULD LIKE GO THROUGH IT SOMEWHAT BRIEFLY WITH YOU.
I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MR. SHELBY TO HAND OUT TO YOU
SOME PERTINENT -- WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE IS NOT 02:12:01PM NECESSARY.
A PREVIOUS DISPUTE THAT STARTED IN 2015 ABOUT SOME
PERMITTING ISSUES.
THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND CITY
LEGAL AND CITY BUILDING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE PROPRIETY OF
PERMITTING.
ULTIMATELY, THAT RESULTED IN A LEGAL ACTION, A DECLARATORY
ACTION BEING TAKEN, WHICH THEN RESULTED IN A SETTLEMENT -- A
FINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED ON
JUNE OF -- JUNE 2024.
AND I HAVE PROVIDED YOU THAT LANGUAGE IN THE AGREEMENT, AND
I WOULD JUST LIKE GO THROUGH SOME OF IT WITH YOU SO THAT YOU
UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
02:13:02PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
SORRY, CITY COUNCIL.
02:13:09PM >> THIS IS HIGHLY IMPROPER.
02:13:11PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
IT ABSOLUTELY IS PROPER.
TOYIN-AINA-HARGRETT WITH THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
WHAT MR. SINGER IS ABOUT TO GET INTO IS THE PENDING
LITIGATION THAT I AM HANDLING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
HE IS GOING TO RAISE THE SETTLEMENT -- HE RAISED THE
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
SUBJECT OF ONGOING LITIGATION --
02:13:31PM >> MR. SHELBY, I HAVE TO OBJECT AND MAKE A POINT OF ORDER
THAT YOU INSTRUCT CITY STAFF TO ALLOW ME TO FINISH.
02:13:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EXCUSE ME, MAY I?
02:13:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO GET ORDER AND THEN
RECOGNIZE YOU.
02:13:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF I CAN.
A POINT OF ORDER HAS BEEN RAISED.
SO YOU -- THE SPEAKER WHO INTERRUPTTED -- COULD YOU AFTER
INTRODUCING THE NECESSITY OF IT.
STATE YOUR NAME.
02:13:59PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT WITH THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I AM RAISING THIS POINT OF ORDER GIVEN THE FACT THAT MR.
SINGER, ON BEHALF OF MR. FONTANA, IS RAISING A SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT, THE SUBJECT OF ONGOING LITIGATION.
WHAT HE IS GOING TO ARGUE HAS TO DO WITH HIS UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT INVOLVES BOTH PARTIES.
SUBJECT OF ENFORCEMENT WAS IN FRONT OF JUDGE WOLFE OF THE 13th
JUDICIAL DISTRICT, AND JUDGE WOLFE HAS DENIED THAT MOTION TO
ENFORCE IN THE MANNER OF WHICH THIS BODY IS TO ADHERE TO.
I AM RAISING THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE UNDER YOUR RULES OF
PROCEDURES, BUT SPECIFICALLY 7-G, IT IS WHY YOUR OWN POLICY
THAT YOU DO NOT DISCUSS MATTERS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO ONGOING
LITIGATION.
THAT ORDER BY JUDGE WOLFE WAS DENIED.
THEIR REQUEST TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN THE WAY
THEY ARE ENVISIONING IT ALSO REQUIRES THE PARTIES TO
PARTICIPATE IN NONBINDING ARBITRATION.
THAT SCHEDULING IS PENDING AS WE SPEAK.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THEM.
BUT IN DEFERENCE TO YOUR POLICY, I -- I AM TRYING ABSTAIN
FROM ENGAGING ON TOO MANY FACTS THAT WOULD BE UNNECESSARY
FOR THE POINT OF RAISING THIS ISSUE.
02:15:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASK FOR A DISCUSSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY FOR
A SECOND.
WHAT I AM HEARING WITH THE POINT OF ORDER, I AM KIND OF NOT
GOING TO -- I'M NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE POINT OF ORDER ON THIS
BASIS.
YOU SAY IT MAY AFFECT THAT CASE BUT NOT NECESSARILY THAT THE
FACTS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED HERE MAY BE ON THIS
PARTICULAR CASE.
02:15:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CANNOT ON THE MERITS BECAUSE IT HASN'T
BEEN HEARD BY THE VRB.
IT WAS DENIED ON A PROCEDURAL GROUND.
IT IS DE NOVO FOR EVIDENCE, BUT THE FACT IS, IT WOULD HAVE
AN ABSURD IMPACT AND ABSURD EFFECT IF YOU HAVE SAY THAT
ANYBODY WANTS TO BYPASS THE VRB AND BE HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME
BY YOU.
02:16:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PARSE THAT OUT --
02:16:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN,
LET ME SAY ONE THING.
WHAT SHE RAISED WAS INFORMING YOU OF COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE HEARD THIS RULE STATED --
02:16:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MANY TIMES.
02:16:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
-- MANY TIMES AND THIS RULE 7-G STATES AS
FOLLOWS: COUNCIL SHOULD AVOID ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MATTER
AT A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THE CITY IS OR LIKELY TO BE A PARTY
IN LITIGATION WITHOUT CONCURRENCE OF COUNCIL.
AND MISS HARGRETT HERE IS RECOMMENDING -- TOYIN
AINA-HARGRETT, AND I WANT TO SAY IT CORRECTLY.
02:17:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTION, IS THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
FINISHED -- IS THIS A FINAL DOCUMENT, A DONE DEAL AND IS
THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT --
02:17:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION OF LAW.
02:17:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR POINT THAT THE SETTLEMENT --
02:17:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SUBJECT OF LITIGATION AS WE SPEAK.
HERE IS MY QUESTION.
AND MY QUESTION FOR -- CERTAINLY, MR. SINGER YOU HAVE A RIGHT
TO CREATE THE RECORD AND RAISE YOUR OBJECTION FOR
THE RECORD, BUT I MUST ASK, ARE YOU GOING TO BE TALKING
ABOUT THE ORDER TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT
WAS FURNISHED BY JUDGE WOLFE, THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE?
02:17:52PM >> THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
I WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THE COURT CASE AT ALL.
IN ADDITION, I WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THE SUBSTANCE OF ANY
VARIANCE REQUEST.
I WILL SIMPLY BE DISCUSSING THE PROCEDURAL POINT THAT WE
WERE AT, AND ASK THE COUNCIL FOR PROCEDURAL RELIEF THAT YOU
HAVE ALREADY GRANTED IN JUNE OF 2024.
02:18:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TO WHOM?
IN JUNE OF 2024.
IN THE PASSAGE -- THE PASSAGE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
02:18:28PM >> UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
02:18:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. CARLSON.
02:18:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. SHELBY, AS I HELPED YOU READ THAT,
CITY COUNCIL'S RULE THAT WE CAN NOT DISCUSS THIS.
BUT DOESN'T PROHIBIT HIM FROM TELLING US.
02:18:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SURE, THAT IS TRUE.
BUT, AGAIN, HE CERTAINLY HAS A RIGHT TO MAKE HIS RECORD AND
HAVE THE RIGHT TO HEAR IT.
WOULDN'T THE CONCURRENCE OF COUNCIL UNLESS YOU WAIVE YOUR
RULES WHICH WILL BE AGAINST -- SORRY, WILL BE AGAINST THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT'S ADVICE TO WAIVE YOUR RULES BECAUSE THEY
DO NOT CONCUR WITH YOUR DISCUSSION.
YOU CAN HEAR WHATEVER YOU LIKE, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T DISCUSS IT
AMONG YOURSELVES AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT YOU HEAR.
02:19:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BASED ON THE RULES YOU CITED, HE CAN SAY
WHATEVER HE WANTS, AND CITY ATTORNEY CAN ADVISE US NOT TO
DISCUSS -- IF HE CROSSES A LINE YOU DEEM HE CAN'T STOP.
02:19:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TAKE A
POSITION ON THAT?
02:19:33PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT FOR THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
MY CONCERN IS, ONCE HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT THINGS, I WON'T BE
ABLE TO REBUT HIM AND STOP HIM AND YOUR DELIBERATIONS WILL
START DISCUSSING HIM.
HE ESPECIALLY SAID HE WILL ONLY TALK TO YOU ABOUT PROCEDURAL BUT
CLEAR HE WILL TALK OF SUBSTANCE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
HE IS TALKING ABOUT IT NOW WITH JUNE 2024.
A COURT HAS ALREADY SAID THEY ARE NOT PREPARED TO ENFORCE IT
IN A MANNER WHICH HE BELIEVES IT TO BE READ.
02:20:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT.
YOU CAN REBUT AFTER THAT POINT IN THESE PROCEDURES.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY -- YOU HAVE ANOTHER BITE OF THE
APPLE.
02:20:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION IS THIS, COUNCIL.
IF SHE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNRING THE BELL OR PUT
TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE.
02:20:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL HEAR FROM TWO OTHER COUNCIL PERSON
AND MAKE A DECISION.
02:20:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IS THIS CASE GOING ON STILL NOW?
02:20:40PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
YES.
YES, YOUR HONOR.
YES, YES, CHAIR -- I MEAN --
02:20:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD BE VERY CAUTIOUS TO CONTINUE
BECAUSE THIS JUDGE HAS NOT MADE A FINAL RULING ON THIS CASE,
AND ANYTHING WE SAY MAY BE HELD AGAINST US OR AGAINST THE
PETITIONER.
UNFAIR FOR THE PETITIONER AND UNFAIR TO STAFF WITH THE
CITY GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS MY POINT.
02:20:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ALSO I BELIEVE, COUNCIL, MR. SINGER RAISED
THE FACT THAT THIS -- VERY WELL COULD BE A VARIANCE -- IF I
AM MISTAKEN OR NOT MISTAKEN, NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE
GRANTED IF ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THIS PROBLEM THAT IS
BEING LITIGATED, THE MATTER MIGHT BE MOOT.
IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT?
02:21:28PM >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
MR. SHELBY, THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAY FOR ANY APPLICANT TO GET
RELIEF AND ONE CERTAINLY IS TO COME TO THEIR ELECTED
REPRESENTATIVES AND SAY TO THEM, YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE A
DECISION ON A TECHNICAL MATTER.
I DON'T NEED AT ALL TO DISCUSS WHEN MADE THE DECISION, WHAT
WENT INTO THE DECISION.
SIX OF YOU ON THIS BOARD HAVE SEEN THIS AGREEMENT ALREADY.
ALL WE WILL ASK IS THAT YOU LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SAY NO
NEED FOR THE PROCEDURAL DENIAL BECAUSE AGREEMENT IN ITSELF
WASN'T NECESSARY.
I AM NOT ASKING YOU IF IT IS A GOOD AGREEMENT OR BAD
AGREEMENT.
NOT ASKING IF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HAD THE CORRECT
CRITERIA.
IT WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ALL I AM ASKING YOU TO SAY AND THEN SAY, TO THE EXTENT THAT
YOU NEED PROCEDURAL RELIEF, WE WOULD GRANT IT.
02:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:22:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR ME, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US IS --
MY BIGGER ISSUE IS WHY YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP TO THE VRB.
ALL THE OTHER STUFF IS IRRELEVANT.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP WHEN YOU WERE
SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP.
02:22:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED THEIR QUESTION.
02:22:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS ALL I WANT.
IF YOU GIVE MORE INFORMATION, SIMPLY FOR THAT INFORMATION.
02:22:59PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIO, A VERY PERTINENT ONE.
WE DIDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE YOU APPROVED WHAT WAS REQUESTED.
YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, APPROVED WHAT WAS REQUESTED.
AN ABSURD RESULT TO GO BACK TO THE VARIANCE BOARD AND GO
BACK TO A DECISION, AND IF THE VARIANCE BOARD WAS TO DENY IT
ON ITS SUBSTANCE, WOULD HAVE TO YOU AND SAY YOU APPROVED IT
IN JUNE OF 2024.
2:23:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE MAKE A
DECISION ON THE OBJECTION.
SO YOU COULD STIPULATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A CASE PENDING
BEFORE A JUDGE AND THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS SUBSTANTIALLY
INVOLVED IN THAT CASE BEFORE THE JUDGE.
2:24:01PM >> YES, WE MOVED TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT
YOU APPROVED IN FRONT OF JUDGE WOLFE ON A PARALLEL TRACK FOR
RELIEF, YES.
2:24:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO WITH THAT STIPULATION, AND
UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL'S RULES THAT WE DO NOT DISCUSS THINGS
THAT ARE PENDING, COULD YOU MAKE -- I'LL GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT WHY WE SHOULDN'T CONSIDER
OUR RULES AND AS OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE JUST SAID, WHY WE SHOULD

NOT -- WHY WE SHOULD WAIVE OUR OWN RULES TO CONSIDER THAT
INFORMATION.
I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO MAKE THAT CASE.
2:24:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD
CONTEMPLATE?
2:24:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M JUST GIVING HIM AN OPPORTUNITY.
2:24:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HE COULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT.
WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS NOT
CONCURRING.
NOR AM I.
2:24:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OH, BOY, I LIKE THIS.
2:24:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, NO.
QUITE FRANKLY, IF I CAN BE HEARD --
2:25:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.
2:25:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
YOU ARE HERE ON A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED BY THE
APPLICANT, WHICH PROCEDURALLY AFTER THE DISMISSAL WAS
NECESSARY AS AN ATTORNEY TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF
HIS CLIENT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS CASE GOING TO NOT CREATE
A PROCESS FOR DOWN THE LINE SAYING YOU MISSED THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS PROCESS PLAY OUT, SO FROM A LEGAL
STANDPOINT, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE HIM FILE THE PETITION
FOR REVIEW.
WHAT IS THE PETITION FOR REVIEW?
IT'S A PETITION FOR REVIEW OF A DISMISSAL ON A PROCEDURAL

PROCESS.
WHAT IS VERY CLEAR, AND UNDISPUTED, IS THAT MR. SINGER AND
HIS CLIENT DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE
MERITS OF THE CASE TO THE VRB.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SUBJECT YOURSELVES TO THIS HEARING, WHICH
YOU VERY WELL MIGHT, TO GRANT HIM THE DUE PROCESS TO ALLOW
YOU TO BE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR
THE VRB TO DISMISS THIS ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS, THEN IS --
AND UPON THAT, MAKE THE DECISION, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
BUT FOR YOU TO GET INTO THE MERITS OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF,
WHICH IS PRESENTLY SUBJECT TO LITIGATION AND, BY THE WAY,
AND I DON'T WANT TO TESTIFY, BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR
THE CITY ATTORNEY, UNLESS MR. SINGER WANTS TO BE ABLE TO
PRESENT IT, ARE THE WORDS OF JUDGE WOLFE WITH REGARD TO THE
FACT THAT A CONFLICT EXISTS WITHIN THE AGREEMENT, WARRANTING
FURTHER LITIGATION.
THAT BEING THE CASE, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND, AND IT WOULD BE
AGAINST THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL FOR YOU TO HEAR THIS CASE ON
ITS MERITS.
2:27:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT JUMPED THE POINT THAT NEEDED
TO BE MADE FROM THE BEGINNING.
THANK YOU FOR FINDING THAT POINT.
2:27:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IN LIGHT OF WHAT MR. SHELBY SAID, MAYBE MY
ISSUE IS INAPPLICABLE.
I WAS GOING TO ASK, WE HAVE A PETITIONER HERE WHO IS

SEEKING, WHO HAS THEORIES OF RECOVERY.
IS THERE ANY WAY, MR. SHELBY, THAT THEY CAN SPEAK AND THEN
WE CAN NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM ON THE ISSUE SO WE DON'T
ACTIVELY DEAL WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, CONCURRENT
LITIGATION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
LET MS. HARGRETT TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS AND
THEN WE DETERMINE OR IS WHAT YOU SAID PRETTY MUCH WIPING OUT
ANY SUGGESTION I HAVE?
2:27:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. HARGRETT, MAY I INQUIRE, MR. CHAIRMAN?
MY INQUIRY, DOES SHE HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDER TO ENFORCE THE
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT?
2:28:05PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
YES, THE ORDER DENYING.
TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT, CITY LEGAL.
I HAVE COPIES FOR CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S THE ORDER DENYING.
2:28:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I PRESENT IT, PLEASE, TO THEM?
IS THERE A COPY FOR MR. SINGER?
2:28:33PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
YES.
2:29:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR
ATTENTION TO THE ONE-PAGE ORDER AND SPECIFICALLY I'M GOING
TO POINT TO ORDER AND ADJUDGED AS FOLLOWS, SPECIFICALLY
NUMBER TWO.
2:29:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVERYBODY FINISH READING?
MR. SINGER, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THIS BEFORE WE MAKE A
FINAL DETERMINATION?

2:29:28PM >> DAVID SINGER.
MR. CHAIRMAN OR MR. SHELBY, COULD ONE OF YOU REPEAT THE
SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT I CAN RESPOND TO?
2:29:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S POSITION ON THIS BEFORE I MAKE A FINAL
DETERMINATION OF WHICH DIRECTION YOU'LL GO?
2:29:44PM >> YES.
THERE ARE TWO AVENUES FOR RELIEF FOR THIS APPLICANT.
THEY EXPLORED THEIR FIRST AVENUE FOR RELIEF THROUGH THIS
VERY BODY, BY AGREEING TO A SET OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN A
FINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU APPROVED.
THE CITY THEN DECIDED NOT TO UPHOLD THEIR END OF THAT
AGREEMENT AND DIRECTED THE APPLICANT INCORRECTLY THAT THE
METHOD FOR RELIEF WAS THROUGH THE VARIANCE BOARD.
GRUDGINGLY, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A VARIANCE APPLICATION
AT THE SAME TIME AND ON A PARALLEL TRACK FILED A MOTION IN
CIRCUIT COURT TO ASK THE JUDGE TO ALSO ENFORCE THE TERMS OF
THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
AND SO I SUBMIT TO YOU TODAY, YOU ABSOLUTELY AS A CITY
COUNCIL HAVE THE JURISDICTION, THE ABILITY, AND THE
AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU APPROVED AND SAY, YEAH, THE
APPLICANT DOESN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE HE
ALREADY DID.
AND THE CITY ALREADY AGREED.
2:31:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, TRYING TO GET TWO

BITES AT THE APPLE THAT IF ONE IS TRUE, THE OTHER CAN'T BE
TRUE.
HOW ARE YOU GOING DOWN THESE TWO DIFFERENT PATHS.
2:31:22PM >> I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
I DISAGREE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
AN APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY, THE RIGHT TO SEEK RELIEF IN
WHATEVER FORM IS AVAILABLE.
IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE TWO FORMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
WE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE
THE ORIGINAL APPROVERS OF THE LANGUAGE.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO TO A JUDGE WHO IS SEEING THIS FOR
THE FIRST TIME WHO HAS NO CONTEXT ABOUT ZONING, ABOUT
VARIANCES, ABOUT HEIGHT ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY.
WE WANT YOU TO SAY, YES, WE LOOKED AT THIS.
WE EXAMINED THIS.
WE AGREED TO IT.
END OF STORY.
2:31:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY, IS IT APPROPRIATE SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN
TO USE LITIGATION ON THIS ISSUE, IS THIS -- THIS HEARING, IS
THIS APPROPRIATE?
2:32:19PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
THE HEARING IS APPROPRIATE TO THE
EXTENT THAT HE IS APPEALING THE PROCEDURAL DENIAL OF THE
VRB.
AND ONLY LIMITED TO THAT PROCEDURE ISSUE, WHICH WAS RAISED

BY COUNCIL HURTAK.
ANY DISCUSSION -- I MEAN, I'M HEARING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO
TALK ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BUT WE'RE TALKING ALL
ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT
EVERY SINGLE THING THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SAYS IS GOING TO BE
REDUCED TO A TRANSCRIPT.
IT IS GOING TO BECOME A PART OF AN AMENDED PROCEEDING, AND
IT WILL COME BACK TO US IN THE LITIGATION.
I CANNOT REBUT THE THINGS THAT MR. SINGER IS SAYING BECAUSE
I DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN THE FACTS OF THE CASE.
I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE THEM HERE.
IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.
I ALMOST FEEL AS THOUGH I AM A BIT HANDCUFFED.
IF YOU ARE LIMITED TO THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE, CERTAINLY THAT
WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT ANYTHING DEALING WITH A SUBSTANCE,
WHICH, AGAIN, WAS NEVER DISCUSSED BY THE VRB, WOULD NOT BE
APPROPRIATE IN MY ESTIMATION.
2:33:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SINGER, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THIS
CASE FOR THE APPEAL OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, I WOULD
APPRECIATE IT IF YOU NOT INCLUDE THE INFORMATION OF THE
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT PER THE ADVICE OF CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
MOVE FORWARD ON JUST THE EVIDENCE FOR YOUR REVIEW OF THE
VARIANCE REVIEW.
2:33:41PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT PUTS ME IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION

AND PUTS THE APPLICANT IN A DIFFICULT POSITION, BECAUSE IT
IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT TRIGGERS THE
PROCEDURAL REQUEST FOR YOU TO OVERTURN.
SO THE ONLY COMPROMISE THAT I CAN THINK OF, AS I STAND HERE,
IS WHAT MR. BOLLT SUGGESTED TO YOU.
YOU HAD THREE OPTIONS.
I WOULD AT THIS POINT, IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT INCLINED TO
HEAR ARGUMENT THAT INCLUDES SIMPLY READING THE LANGUAGE OF
THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU REMAND
THIS TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS THAT WAY, AND THEN IF NECESSARY, EVEN THOUGH, AGAIN,
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE HERE, WE COULD COME BACK AND
SAY WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CHANNELS AND GET INTO THE
MERITS AS OPPOSED TO THE PROCEDURE.
2:34:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO STATE FOR THE
CASE THAN WHAT YOU JUST STATED OR ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR
PRESENTATION?
2:34:54PM >> WOULD YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND?
2:34:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
2:35:05PM >> MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES MY
PRESENTATION TODAY.
2:35:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:35:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
REMANDING TO THE VRB IS ONE OPTION.

IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION ON THE TABLE OF -- I DON'T WANT TO
USE THE WORD CONTINUANCE, BUT OF MAYBE ALLOWING THE COUNCIL
MORE TIME, COUNSEL IN TERMS OF THE ATTORNEYS WITH AN "S," TO
FLESH THESE LEGAL ISSUES OUT THAT WERE JUST PRESENTED TO US.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT --
2:35:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
2:35:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
APOLOGIZE.
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN THAT HAVE GREAT BEARING ON
THIS CASE.
AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY IS READY TO GO AND SO FORTH, BUT
JUST MORE TIME MAY BE AN ACT OF PROFESSIONAL ACCOMMODATION
ON A CASE LIKE THIS.
2:35:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
2:36:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION, BUT FOR THE FACT THAT A CONTINUANCE
DOES NOT BRING YOU FORWARD IN TIME TO BE ABLE TO REMEDY THE
FACT THAT THE VRB NEVER HEARD THIS TO BEGIN WITH.
UPON WHAT ARE YOU THEN REVIEWING?
WHAT YOU ARE REVIEWING NOW IS A TECHNICAL DETERMINATION
BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCE AND FINDINGS THAT SAID THAT THERE WAS
A BASIS WITHIN THE CODE FOR THE VRB TO DISMISS IT.
TWO OPTIONS I SUSPECT, THAT DOES RAISE ANOTHER OPTION, YOU
CAN AFFIRM THE VRB'S DECISION PROCEDURALLY AND UPHOLD ITS
DECISION, AND THEN THE OTHER CASE WILL TAKE ITS COURSE,

WHATEVER THAT COURSE IS AND WHATEVER REMEDIES EXIST.
CERTAINLY, EVEN A DECISION OF THIS BODY TO DO THAT ALSO HAS
ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS PROCEDURALLY FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A FAIR POINT BECAUSE TIME MIGHT RESOLVE
THIS ISSUE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT YOU'RE NOT AT THAT
POINT TODAY.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE IS A BASIS, A LEGAL BASIS THAT
WOULD NOT PREJUDICE EITHER THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY BY A
CONTINUANCE BY CITY COUNCIL.
NOW, IF YOU REMAND IT, CERTAINLY, YOU COULD HAVE
INSTRUCTIONS TO THE VRB, BUT THEN AGAIN, WHAT IS THE BASIS
FOR REMANDING IT?
IF IT MET THE CRITERIA WITHIN THE CODE, WHAT IS THE MESSAGE
YOU'RE SENDING TO THE VRB, WHAT DIRECTION?
2:37:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR REFERENCE COUNCIL COMMENTS, BE CAREFUL
AS YOU HEARD FROM CITY ATTORNEY, THE STATEMENT YOU MADE
COULD BE USED IN THE RECORD.
WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT.
WE STILL HAVE REBUTTAL AVAILABLE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT
TO ASK, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME.
2:38:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, WHEN SOMETHING
HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THIS MANY TIMES AND YOU ARE AN HONORABLE

MAN.
I DON'T KNOW MR. FONTANA, BUT ASSUME JUST AS HONORABLE.
THE CASE IS WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED IN A SITUATION WHERE WE
CAN'T SOLVE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITHOUT GOING SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
THE COURT SAYS, COURT FINDS A CONFLICT SECTION 11 AND 21,
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WARRANTING FURTHER LITIGATION.
WHO AM I TO TELL HIM I'VE GOT TO DO IT MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY
OR YOUR WAY OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S WAY.
I'M NOT QUALIFIED.
HE IS THE JUDGE.
HE JUST GAVE US AN ORDER, WE SOUND LIKE 47 CANARIES IN A
CAGE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
YOUR CLIENT DESERVES TO FINISH THIS THING OUT TO GET WHAT HE
NEEDS.
I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IT'S GOT TO BE THROUGH THE PROCESS WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE.
2:39:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THIS ITEM?
COME ON FORWARD, PLEASE.
IF YOU WOULD LINE UP ON THE WALL TO YOUR RIGHT, OUR LEFT.
2:39:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE.
YES, SIR.
2:39:26PM >> IF THE PUBLIC IS TO COMMENT ON THIS AND IF ANYTHING GOES

INTO THE RECORD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LIMIT IT TO THE VERY
SPECIFIC ISSUE OF THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE FROM THE VRB AND NO
SUBSTANCE MAY BE DISCUSSED.
2:39:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOBODY COULD SAY IT MORE SUCCINCTLY.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IT MYSELF.
THANK YOU.
IF I COULD MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD JUST SO IT COMES
FROM MY MOUTH, PLEASE.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL HERE.
THE ONLY SUBJECT OF THIS REVIEW HEARING IS THE PROCEDURAL
PROCESS OF THE DISMISSAL.
ANYTHING THAT WOULD GO TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE, ANY
OPINION YOU MIGHT HAVE, ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY
IS NOT ONLY RELEVANT BUT CAN ALSO TAINT THE RECORD.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BE VERY CAREFUL TO LIMIT YOURSELF
AS TO THE FACT THAT WHAT IS BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY IS A
DISMISSAL ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS.
COUNSELOR, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO WHAT I JUST SAID
AS A CAUTIONARY STATEMENT?
2:40:40PM >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THAT WAS PERFECT.
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
2:40:45PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT FOR LEGAL.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT PROCEDURAL ISSUE

IS THE FAILURE TO APPEAR TO ARGUE YOUR OWN MOTION TO
CONTINUE AND THUS NOT HAVING YOUR APPLICATION HEARD.
2:40:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT?
MR. SINGER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT DIRECTION?
2:41:08PM >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
I AM OKAY WITH THAT DIRECTION WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT IS IN
THE RECORD THAT THERE WERE GROUNDS, COLORABLE, LEGITIMATE
GROUNDS, FOR THE APPLICANT NOT TO SHOW UP TO THE VARIANCE
REVIEW BOARD UNDER THE BELIEF THAT HE HAD ALREADY BEEN
GRANTED THE RELIEF REQUESTED.
2:41:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN FOLLOW UP, MR. SINGER, COULD YOU
TELL THIS BOARD HOW THAT POSITION WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR TO STAFF PRIOR TO THE SECOND CONTINUANCE
DATE THAT WAS SET?
2:41:51PM >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
GIVEN YOUR DIRECTION, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT I
INTRODUCE AND WHAT I SAY.
I WILL TELL YOU THERE WAS E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE
APPLICANT AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE,
AND THAT E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE WENT UNRESPONDED TO.
2:42:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WAS FOR THE SECOND CONTINUANCE.
2:42:09PM >> CORRECT, YES, SIR.
BUT IN FURTHERANCE OF THE APPLICANT'S POSITION THAT THEY HAD
TAKEN THAT THE RELEVANT REQUEST HAD ALREADY BEEN GRANTED BY
THIS BODY, SO WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING, AGAIN, LATER SHOULD
YOU OR SHOULD YOU NOT --
2:42:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S RESTRICT THAT CONVERSATION TO LATER
WHEN YOU COME BACK UP.
2:42:20PM >> YES, SIR.
2:42:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M ASSUMING FOLKS PREPARED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT UNDERSTAND
THE DIRECTION GIVEN TO THE ATTORNEYS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, COME TO THE
PODIUM, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
2:42:28PM >> HELLO, BARBARA VAKA, 544 LUCERNE.
I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, NOT REALLY SURE WHAT I
CAN SAY, SHOULD SAY.
2:42:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I STOP FOR ONE SECOND.
HAVE YOU ALL BEEN SWORN IN?
YOU CAN START YOUR TIME AGAIN.
2:42:44PM >> BARBARA VAKA.
I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, 544 LUCERNE AVENUE.
NOT SURE WHAT I CAN SAY, NOT CROSSING THE LINE, OTHER THAN I
BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF WHAT
THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DID, DENYING THE APPLICATION BASED

ON NOT ATTENDING -- THE APPLICANT NOT ATTENDING SINCE THEY
ARE THE ONES THAT FILED THE APPLICATION.
2:43:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
2:43:13PM >> I HAVE AN EXTRA MINUTE.
2:43:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
THAT'S FOUR MINUTES.
2:43:29PM >> ALL RIGHT.
BOB ABBERGER.
540 BOSPHOROUS.
SORRY WE ARE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
I'VE ATTENDED ALL MEETINGS WITH REGARD TO THE ITEM BECAUSE
OF THE IMPORTANCE THAT I FELT IT HAD AND ITS IMPACT IN
SETTING PRECEDENT AND CHARACTER.
I WAS HERE, AND YOU CAN PROBABLY BLAME ME AT THE VARIANCE
REVIEW BOARD WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO TURN IT DOWN
BASED UPON THE LACK OF APPEARANCE BECAUSE IT WAS 11:30 AT
NIGHT.
20 OF THE 30 FOLKS WHO HAD SHOWN UP TO SPEAK HAD GIVEN UP
AND GONE HOME.
I HAD NEVER SEEN AN APPLICATION WITH LESS MERIT, AND I SPOKE
THAT TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND I SAID SAVE ALL OUR
TIME AND PUT A FORK IN IT.
THE CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDED THEM THE GUIDANCE THAT BASED UPON

THE LACK OF APPEARANCE ON TWO OCCASIONS AND THE FAILURE TO
COMMUNICATE WITH REGARD TO ANY INTENT TO NOT APPEAR OR
REASON NOT TO APPEAR, THAT THEY HAD FULL GROUNDS TO DENY
BASED UPON PROCEDURE.
WE ALL GOT TO GO HOME.
NOW, HERE WE ARE AGAIN, IN MY GREAT HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL
NOT CONTINUE THIS.
I HAVE HEARD A COMPELLING ARGUMENT MOST OF WHICH I
VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH.
I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO TAKE THE DEBATE AS YOU HEAR THE
ARGUMENT TO TRY AND DRAW YOU IN TO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
STAY AWAY FROM IT.
PROCEDURES HERE WERE VERY CLEAR.
THE VARIANCE BOARD DID THEIR JOB.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR, DID NOT COMMUNICATE.
HE'S ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR IF HAD IT BEEN HEARD, HE WOULD
NOT HAVE DEEMED IT WORTH HONORING.
PLEASE DENY AND SAVE US ANY MORE TIME ON THIS.
THANK YOU.
2:45:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
2:45:26PM >> MY NAME IS HAROLD GALLUP.
I RESIDE AT 540 WEST DAVIS BOULEVARD.
WHEN I SAY I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED, IF YOU HAD A SETTLEMENT

AGREEMENT THAT BYPASSED COMPLETELY --
2:45:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE NOT TALKING --
2:45:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT RAISE THE ISSUE
OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
2:45:48PM >> I'M SORRY.
LET ME REFRAME THAT.
IT APPEARS WE'RE STANDING HERE TODAY WITH THE VARIANCE
REVIEW BOARD NEVER HAVING BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW IN A PUBLIC
SESSION THE REQUEST FOR 53, 61 FEET DEPENDING ON SEA LEVEL,
ON VARIANCE SETBACKS, ON THE FRONT THAT ARE OBNOXIOUS IN ITS
OWN FACE AND EXTEND THE WALL 61 FEET --
2:46:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SIR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT TALK ABOUT
THE MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING CASE.
THIS IS PURELY A PROCEDURAL MATTER.
2:46:25PM >> THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW.
SEND IT BACK TO VRB WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN BE HEARD.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
2:46:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU REMEMBER THAT DURING THE DIRECTION
THAT WAS GIVEN, WE'RE ONLY LIMITING IT TO A VERY NARROW
ITEM, AND THAT IS JUST THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD NOT HEARING
THE CASE AND REJECTING IT BASED ON NONAPPEARANCE.
NONE OF THE MERITS OF THE CASE ITSELF SHOULD BE TALKED
ABOUT.
2:46:53PM >> I ASK NO VOTE AND YOU WILL PASS WHAT YOU NEED TO PASS.
2:47:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD,

I'LL ASK TO YOU DISREGARD ANY DISCUSSION INVOLVING THE
MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING CASE.
2:47:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC SPEAKER.
GO AHEAD.
2:47:17PM >> HI.
I'M HEATHER KUIPERS.
I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AT 546 LUCERNE.
SINCE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE CASE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE
NEIGHBORS HAVE GOTTEN ALL TOGETHER.
WE WERE PLANNING ON BEING HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEN
THERE WASN'T A QUORUM.
DISAPPOINTING WHEN YOU GET EVERYONE TOGETHER, ALL GO DOWN
THERE.
AND THEN A LOT OF US SHOWED UP IN DECEMBER, A LOT OF US,
THAT GOT PUSHED, UNFORTUNATELY.
YOU'RE RALLYING THE TROOPS AGAIN.
PEOPLE CLEARING THEIR SCHEDULES AGAIN.
THEY ARE HERE IN FEBRUARY, ALONG WITH OVER 20 PEOPLE SIGNED
A PETITION, WHICH THEY'LL GET TO SEE MAYBE ONE DAY.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
WROTE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS.
WE ALL JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY OUR PIECE IN SOME SORT
OF PUBLIC FORUM.
WE WERE HERE.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

2:48:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.
STAFF, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY -- DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION?
CITY STAFF?
SHELL AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY.
2:48:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR CITY STAFF IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE OR REBUT.
EITHER WAY, MR. SINGER WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
LAST WORD FOR REBUTTAL.
2:48:48PM >> I WANT TO STATE AGAIN THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE IS
BECAUSE --
2:48:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NAME.
2:48:53PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
CITY LEGAL.
THE REASON WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE OF THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE
TO ATTEND THE HEARINGS THAT HE PURSUED.
THE APPLICANT WAS CLEARLY MADE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
ATTENDING, AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT ATTENDING.
IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CITY STAFF, SPECIFICALLY
SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS
STEVEN EYSTER ADVISED OR ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANTS TO ATTEND
THEIR OWN APPLICATION, AND THAT THEY DECLINED TO DO SO.
AGAIN, THIS IS A SITUATION OF THEIR OWN MAKING.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE.
I CAN'T.
I WISH I COULD.
THAT WOULD BE THE SUM TOTAL OF WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER AT THIS
POINT.
2:49:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I INQUIRE?
YOU RAISED THE FACT OF STAFF BEING IN CONTACT.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO COULD TESTIFY TO THAT?
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT IN THE POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO
TESTIFY YOURSELF, ARE YOU?
2:49:54PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
I'M NOT.
STEVEN EYSTER CAN LET THE CITY COUNCIL KNOW HIS EFFORTS TO
ENGAGE THEM FOR THEIR OWN APPLICATION.
2:50:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
2:50:08PM >> STEVEN EYSTER, URBAN PLANNER 2, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
MANAGEMENT.
AS A FACILITATOR OF THE VRB, WHEN THE SECOND CONTINUANCE DID
COME WITH SUCH SHORT NOTICE, I DID REACH OUT TO THE
APPLICANT, MR. RICE, AND ASKED IF HE WOULD BE THERE TO
REPRESENT HIS APPLICATION.
HE TOLD ME NO, HE WOULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TO REPRESENT
HIS APPLICATION.
AND THAT HE WILL BE AT DINNER.
2:50:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
2:50:34PM >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT:
WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE OUR

RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL UPHOLD VRB'S DENIAL ON THE
PROCEDURAL GROUNDS.
IF CITY COUNCIL IS NOT INCLINED TO DO THAT AT A MINIMUM --
AT THE MOST, EXCUSE ME, AT THE MOST, REMAND IT BACK DOWN TO
THEM TO HAVE IT HEARD ON THE SUBSTANCE.
BUT CERTAINLY, THIS COUNCIL AND THE VRB'S RULES OF PROCEDURE
NEED TO BE UPHELD AND CIRCUMVENTING THEM WOULD NOT BE
APPROPRIATE.
THOSE WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
2:51:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
APPLICANT, REBUTTAL.
2:51:12PM >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
I WANT TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR, THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO
INTENDED DISRESPECT TO THE VRB AND THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO
INTENDED DISRESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THERE WAS A COLORABLE POSITION OF LAW THAT WAS TAKEN.
THERE WAS ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF AN APPLICANT.
I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU CONSIDER YOUR NEXT
MOVE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES.
I RESPECT MR. VIERA'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE EITHER BE A
CONTINUANCE TO LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN HEAR THIS.
I BELIEVE YOU CAN.
OR, AS MS. HARGRETT SAID, AT WORST, SEND THIS BACK TO VRB.
I SUPPOSE WE CAN HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
AND IF PEOPLE ARE UNSATISFIED WITH THAT RESULT, THEN WE

COULD POTENTIALLY COME BACK HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL
ABOUT IT.
BUT TO DISMISS THIS OUTRIGHT WOULD BE A MISCARRIAGE TODAY.
THANK YOU.
2:52:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REBUTTAL?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:52:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S
DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE APPLICATION VRB 25-83 FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 541 LUCERNE AVENUE BECAUSE PETITIONER FAILED TO
PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO OVERTURN THE
VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION
BASED UPON THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, BASED UPON THE
APPLICANT'S STATEMENT OF NOT BELIEVING THEY NEEDED TO GO TO
THE VRB AND OUR STAFF STATEMENT ABOUT REACHING OUT AND
CONTACTING THEM.
2:53:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:53:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THAT AND
HERE'S WHY.
I THINK THERE IS A THIRD WAY WHICH IS TO EITHER SEND THIS
BACK TO THE VRB TO DENY IT ON THAT BASIS.
I THINK ASSUMES THERE WAS SOME REASONING OUTSIDE OF A THEORY
TO PROGRESS THE CASE THAT I THINK IS BECOMING APPARENT NOW,
TO TRULY FLESH THIS OUT, TO TRULY BE ABLE TO FIND THE
DISPOSITIVE ISSUES ON THIS, YOU EITHER NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN
REALLY HEAR THIS AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE SETTLEMENT ISSUES OR
ALTERNATIVELY SEND IT BACK TO THE VRB.
I THINK THAT IS THE BETTER COMPROMISE ON THIS BECAUSE I
THINK THE FOUNDATION OF THIS PRETTY MUCH MAKES THE FAILURE
TO GO TO THE VRB SEEM AS IF IT WAS A FLAGRANT, WE'RE JUST
NOT GOING TO BE THERE.
NO, IT WAS BASED UPON AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I THINK IS
BECOMING APPARENT NOW, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SO.
I DO THINK THAT IS THE BETTER OPTION.
2:54:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KIND OF CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WHILE I GENERALLY, NOT SHOWING UP AT HEARINGS WEIGHS HEAVILY
ON MY SOUL.
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAD A LEGAL
CASE THAT PRECLUDED THEM OR MADE THAT POINT UNNECESSARY, AND
I THINK THAT MAYBE RIGHT NOW IT'S PREMATURE TO CLOSE THE
DOORS ON BOTH OPTIONS.

I THINK I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT OTHER DOOR CONTINUE TO BE
OPENED AS THE ONE CASE MOVES FORWARD, IF WE WERE TO DEFER
THIS BACK TO THE BOARD, I THINK IT GIVES THEM AMPLE
OPPORTUNITY.
THEY HAVE BOTH BITES AT THE APPLE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:54:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS IS NOT WASHINGTON, D.C.
THIS IS TAMPA, FLORIDA.
THE JUDGE SAID HERE WHAT HE WANTS.
THAT'S ALL.
WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE VRB OR DIDN'T HAPPEN.
THAT'S BETWEEN THEM AND THEM.
BUT I'M NOT PART OF THAT.
I'M NOT PART OF THE JUDGE EITHER.
I'M CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
I'M FINE WITH THE MOTION, THE FIRST MOTION WAS TO DENY SO
THEY CAN DO SOMETHING AND MOVE FORWARD.
FURTHER LITIGATION IS NEEDED.
THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE SAID, NOT ME.
THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE SAID.
AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.
I ADMIRE EVERYBODY HERE.
ADMIRE THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AT THE HEARING.
ADMIRE THE PETITIONER, THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE CONFLICT
BETWEEN THEM AND THEM.

PARTY IN SETTLEMENT, WARRANTING FURTHER LITIGATION.
I'M NOT A LITIGATOR.
I'M NOT A JUDGE.
THAT BELONGS IN THE COURT, NOT HERE.
2:55:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:55:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH IT
WOULD BE BETTER PROBABLY FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S POINT OF VIEW
TO TRY TO KILL IT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT WILL LEAD TO
FURTHER LITIGATION THAT WILL DRAG THIS OUT AND BE MORE
MEETINGS TO GO TO.
I THINK IT'S CLEANER FROM A PROCESS POINT OF VIEW TO HAVE
THE VRB DENY IT AND THEN SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
WHAT HAPPENS IN LITIGATION IS THAT THE -- I'M TALKING
GENERICALLY, THE CITY TYPICALLY WILL NEGOTIATE AND THEN THE
NEIGHBORS AREN'T HAPPY AND DEVELOPERS AREN'T HAPPY.
HAVING A CLEAN PROCESS IS EASIER THAN DEALING WITH
LITIGATION.
2:56:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS A QUESTION ON THE MOTION TO MR.
SHELBY, WHICH IS IT BEING PREDICATED ON AN APPARENT
NONATTENDANCE AT THE UNDERLYING HEARING, AND, BY THE WAY,
THIS IS NOTHING ON COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO MAKES A LOT OF
THESE MOTIONS THAT SOME OF US DON'T WANT TO MAKE AND ALWAYS
DOES A STELLAR JOB, NOTHING ON THAT.
BUT IS THAT A RATIONALE THAT CAN BE RELIED UPON FROM A LEGAL

PERSPECTIVE TO DENY THIS?
2:57:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PROCEDURALLY?
2:57:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
2:57:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND YOU'VE BEEN
ADVISED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT THE ANSWER TO
THAT IS YES.
2:57:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CURIOSITY.
THANK YOU.
2:57:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL HAPPILY ADD IN THAT IT IS PART OF THE
VRB'S RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT WERE EFFECTIVE -- THEY ARE
NOT OLD -- EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 10 OF 2024, SECTION 4.10,
CONTINUANCE, IF THE APPLICANT FAILS TO APPEAR AT THE
SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETING, APPLICANT SHALL BE CONTINUED FOR
60 DAYS.
AND -- I DID NOT READ ALL OF THIS.
2:58:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKE YOUR TIME.
2:58:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT WOULD BE
ABLE TO BE ANSWERED EVIDENTIARY PERSPECTIVE, YOU DO HAVE
THAT ABILITY TO REOPEN THE HEARING IF YOU FEEL THE NEED.
2:58:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I'VE GOT IT.
I KNEW I HAD SEEN IT.
7.1 APPEARANCE BY THE APPLICANT.
APPLICANT OR AUTHORIZED AGENT SHALL APPEAR IN SUPPORT OF THE
APPLICATION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THE APPLICANT OR AUTHORIZED AGENT FAILS TO APPEAR, THE
APPLICATION SHALL BE CONTINUED FOR 60 DAYS.
IF THE APPLICANT OR AUTHORIZED AGENT FAILS TO APPEAR AT THE
SECOND HEARING, THE APPLICATION SHALL BE DENIED.
IT'S VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE.
2:59:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU'LL ACCEPT THAT?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, A SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
2:59:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
2:59:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
2:59:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
2:59:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:59:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:59:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:59:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
2:59:23PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, CARLSON, AND
CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
2:59:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WELL, THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE.
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ITEM 103.
2:59:55PM >>CARL BRODY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I AM HERE TODAY ON ITEM 103, BRINGING BACK THE PROPOSED
VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE ORDINANCE.

LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF
IT WOULD BE.
I THINK THERE WAS AGREEMENT THAT THERE WAS A VALUE THERE,
BUT THERE WAS A DECISION WANTING TO CHANGE UP THE MAKEUP OF
THE COMMITTEE.
WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER TO 11
MEMBERS.
CHOSEN ONE FROM EACH COUNCILPERSON, FOUR FROM THE MAYOR, AND
WE REQUIRED AT LEAST 75% OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
WOULD BE VETERANS, AND WE ALSO REDUCED ELIGIBILITY TO JUST
EITHER VETERANS OR GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS.
SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AT YOUR REQUEST AND
UPON DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS.
AND WE JUST ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE
REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE.
3:00:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, WHENEVER.
THANK YOU, SIR.
MR. BRODY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
TO BE CLEAR, IT'S 75% OF THE COMMITTEE HAS TO BE VETERANS,
BUT THE OTHER 25% IN TERMS OF NONVETERANS ARE GOLD STAR
FAMILY MEMBERS.
3:01:21PM >>CARL BRODY:
CORRECT.
3:01:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT WAS SOMETHING BROUGHT UP IN THE FIRST
PART AND THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD THIS AND THAT'S VERY

REASONABLE.
I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
I ENVISION THIS BEING A BOARD HERE FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA
THAT TAKES THE LEAD ON A LOT OF OUR PATRIOTIC CEREMONIES,
THINGS THAT IN THE PAST I THINK WE USED TO DEFER TO THE
COUNTY ON, THINGS FOR LIKE MEMORIAL DAY, VETERANS DAY,
PURPLE HEART DAY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT RECOGNIZES THE FACT THAT OUR CITY OF TAMPA, WE ARE A
VERY, VERY PATRIOTIC CITY.
WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY, ALL OF US, WHETHER REPUBLICANS,
DEMOCRATS OR INDEPENDENTS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GOT
OUR 250-YEAR ANNIVERSARY AS THE UNITED STATES COMING UP.
FOR ME AS I SEE IT, VERY DIFFICULT TIMES IN OUR COUNTRY
RIGHT NOW.
A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING THAT BREAK MY HEART ON AMERICAN
ISSUES.
BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THOSE ISSUES, WHAT'S
RIGHT WITH AMERICA HELPS HEAL WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S RIGHT WITH AMERICA ARE OUR
VETERANS.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT TAMPA CELEBRATES.
I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING WHO COUNCIL MEMBERS PICK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS HERE AND WHO THE MAYOR PICKS AND

EVERYTHING.
AGAIN, CARL, YOU ARE ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH, MAN, AS
AN ATTORNEY.
I APPRECIATE YOU.
3:02:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE?
3:02:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I READ AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING
CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE VI, CITY OF TAMPA CODE BY ADDING SECTION
2-326 DEFINITIONS, SECTION 2-327, VETERANS' ADVISORY
COMMITTEE, SECTION 2-328 MEETINGS, SECTION 2-329 PURPOSE AND
FUNCTION, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:03:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I AM BRAIN DEAD.
MY BRAIN IS MUSH TODAY.
I DID NOT SLEEP LAST NIGHT.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
3:03:23PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD JUNE 4, 2026 AT

10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
3:03:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEND YOU BACK TO LAW SCHOOL 101 FOR THE
ROMAN NUMERALS.
DON'T YOU LEARN THAT LIKE THE FIRST HOUR?
NUMBER 104, PLEASE.
BRANDON.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
3:03:54PM >>EMMA GREGORY:
EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
AND BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DIRECTOR, AND ADAM PURCELL
FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT ARE HERE WITH ME.
WE ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 104 WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT TO
SECTION 22-103, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU
FEE ORDINANCE.
COUNCIL MADE A MOTION ON MARCH 26 ASKING CITY STAFF TO WORK
WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME UP WITH A SET OF CRITERIA THAT
WOULD ALLOW THE CITY SOME FLEXIBILITY IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE ELIMINATES THE SO-CALLED SIDEWALK TO
NOWHERE EXEMPTION, WHICH IS THE EXISTING SECTION 22-103-C-1.
AND IT ALSO CREATES A NEW CRITERION FOR FINDINGS OF
IMPRACTICABILITY WHICH ALLOWS APPLICANTS TO PAY INTO THE
SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
SO WE BELIEVE THIS FULFILLS THE SPIRIT OF COUNCIL'S MOTION.

DEFINE PROPERTY IN DEFINED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE
THERE IS NO EXISTING COMMERCIAL USE, NO EXISTING SCHOOLS OR
CHURCHES AND NO EXISTING SIDEWALKS AND CONSTRUCTION WOULD
NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE
APPLICANTS COULD NOW PAY INTO THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THIS
ON FIRST READING TODAY.
3:05:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
I BELIEVE NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE COME UP.
JUST START WITH YOUR NAME.
3:05:56PM >> HI.
I'M ANN FLEVOS.
I AM A SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE THANKING THE COUNCIL
AND THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CREATE A
THOUGHTFUL EXCEPTION THROUGH THIS ADDITION OF ITEM NUMBER 4,
WHERE IT SIMPLY MAKES GOOD SENSE.
WE APPRECIATE THE TIME, CONSIDERATION, PROFESSIONALISM THAT
WENT INTO THIS PROCESS AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT
AND HELPING PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF SOUTH
TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ALLOWING FOR PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS
WHERE APPROPRIATE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR SUPPORT.
3:06:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT.
3:06:48PM >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
PAULA FLORES.
I AM A RESIDENT AND MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY IN TAMPA.
ALSO A MEMBER OF WALK-BIKE TAMPA AND HOPE YOU CONSIDERED OUR
LETTER OF SUPPORT URGING APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED CITY
SIDEWALK ORDINANCE AGENDA ITEM 104 ATTACHED TO TODAY'S
AGENDA.
WHAT I SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS CONCERNING.
MISSING SIDEWALKS, INADEQUATE CROSSINGS, MOMS PUSHING
STROLLERS AND SO FORTH.
THESE ARE THE EVERYDAY REALITIES ACROSS TAMPA.
AND THEY ARE PART OF WHY OUR REGION CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF
THE DEADLIEST IN THE NATION FOR PEOPLE WALKING IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OFF THIS LIST UNTIL WE MOVE
FORWARD AND WE ACCEPT THIS AMENDMENT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW WE RECOGNIZE AT TIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME
CONCESSIONS MAY BE NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD AND PADDLE
FORWARD.
WHILE WE BELIEVE SIDEWALKS SHOULD BE BUILT WHENEVER

POSSIBLE, WE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENTS LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE
AS LONG AS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTION IS A REQUIREMENT.
NO EXCEPTIONS THERE.
BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS 1200 MILES OF SIDEWALK
GAPS AND EVERY PENNY MOVING FORWARD TO ANOTHER LOCATION,
WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT.
WE TRUST CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE VOICES IN
THIS ROOM TODAY, BUT ALSO THE MANY RESIDENTS WHO DEPEND ON
SAFER STREETS EVERY DAY TO WALK TO SCHOOL, TO WORK, TO THE
PARK AND CANNOT BE HERE TO SPEAK.
SO PLEASE VOTE YES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
3:08:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
3:08:34PM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THIS CODE CHANGE.
WALK BIKE TAMPA, SIDEWALK STOMPERS AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS
LIKE MacFARLANE PARK FOUGHT FOR YEARS TO GET THE CODE
CHANGED AND THE FEES RAISED.
WE TRIED TO ELIMINATE THE EXEMPTION FOR NO CONNECTING
SIDEWALK BUT WERE TOLD THE EXEMPTIONS WOULD BE RARELY
GRANTED AND FLEXIBILITY WAS NEEDED.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
THAT EXCUSE WAS APPROVED MORE THAN THE OTHER THREE COMBINED,

AND TO MAKE IT WORSE, THEY MADE MISTAKES AND APPROVED THEM
EVEN WHEN THERE WAS A SIDEWALK NEXT DOOR.
IF THE CODE HAD BEEN ADMINISTERED CORRECTLY, WE WOULDN'T BE
HERE TODAY.
THOSE MISTAKES ARE WHY THE MOTION WAS MADE TO REMOVE THE
EXEMPTION.
WE WANT IT ELIMINATED BUT WE'RE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS
COMPROMISE AS LONG AS THE FEE STAYS MANDATORY.
MOBILITY USES THOSE FEES TO BUILD SIDEWALKS AROUND SCHOOLS.
THEY PRIORITIZE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN WHO ARE
FORCED TO WALK IN THE STREET AND SOMETIMES IN THE DARK
BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF DRIVING THEIR
CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNSAFE TO WALK.
SCHOOLS LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS WHERE CHILDREN HAVE NO BUSES,
FEW SIDEWALKS, AND THE NEW BUILDS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE TO
INSTALL SIDEWALKS.
Y'ALL WILL BE VOTING ON A PLAN FOR THEM.
WHEN VIRGINIA PARK'S -- I LEFT IT AT THE SEAT.
OH, WELL.
JUST IMAGINE A MAP I'LL SHOW YOU.
WHEN VIRGINIA PARK'S 100-YEAR-OLD PIPES WERE REPLACED THE
CITY WAS GOING TO FILL IN MANY SIDEWALK GAPS WITH THE MONEY
FROM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION TAX.
WHEN THAT FUNDING WAS LOST, THE SIDEWALKS WERE CANCELED.
HERE IS THE MAP.

MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE HOUSES WERE NEW BUILDS AND SHOULD
HAVE HAD SIDEWALKS.
IF THE CITY MADE THEM BUILD SIDEWALKS AS THEY SHOULD, THE
COST WOULD BE WAY, WAY LESS AND THE CITY MIGHT HAVE HAD THE
MONEY TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT AND FILL THE FEW GAPS.
THAT IS THE CITY'S DECADES LONG, BIG-PICTURE PLAN FOR
FILLING SIDEWALK GAPS.
BUT SO MANY HOUSES WERE GRANTED EXEMPTION, IT DOUBLED THE
GAPS.
MANY DIDN'T PAY A FEE.
THE CITY KIND OF SHOT ITSELF IN THE FOOT AND SABOTAGED ITS
OWN PLAN.
THEY FAILED US WITH A LACK OF FOLLOW-THROUGH.
TAMPA IS EXCELLENT AT KILLING AND INJURING ITS PEDESTRIANS
AND CYCLISTS.
PEOPLE AREN'T BEING MOWED DOWN ON SIDEWALKS.
WE NEED LEADERSHIP THAT WILL ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE
WHOLE POPULATION.
WE NEED THESE FEES TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE.
WE FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR THIS PROGRESS.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS APPROPRIATE, AND IT WON'T
HAMPER OUR PROGRESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS.
PLEASE VOTE YES.
THANK YOU.
3:11:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CARROLL ANN.

ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:11:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS IN
THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ON COUNCIL HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
THE COMMUNITY ON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AS CARROLL ANN
MENTIONED.
GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO PEOPLE AND
EVERYTHING IN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT TAKES A --
DEMOCRACY TAKES A LONG TIME AND THE PROCESS MODIFIED IT
SLIGHTLY ALONG THE WAY.
TODAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION.
I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO STRENGTHEN IT AGAIN.
THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM -- THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE IS TO KEEP
PEOPLE SAFE AS FOLKS SAID.
ON MY OWN STREET, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS I THINK IN A
THIRD OF THE HOUSES.
THERE ARE FOLKS IN WHEELCHAIRS THAT ARE GOING DOWN THE
MIDDLE OF MY STREET.
WE SEE THAT REPLICATED ALL OVER THE CITY.

WE'VE GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
TOO DANGEROUS TO HAVE KIDS, PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS, JOGGERS
WITH THEIR iPODs IN THEIR EARS, AIR PODS, SORRY.
WE NEED TO MAKE THE CITY SAFER.
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR HELP ON THIS.
3:12:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:12:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
SAID, THANKS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR STEPPING UP.
WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND WHAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE HOUSES AND
GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THEY DON'T HAVE NO BUSINESSES.
THEY DON'T HAVE NO CHURCHES.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A GOOD LIFE.
WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S BETTER
TO LIVE THERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE WE
LOST THAT ART IN AMERICA ABOUT SPEAKING AND LOOKING AT
SOMEBODY IN THE FACE AND JUST HAVING A STANDARD
CONVERSATION.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT.
3:12:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:12:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE.
I WAS THRILLED WHEN WE FOUGHT HARD TO GET THE FEE INCREASED,
AND THIS WAS THE SECOND PART OF THIS.
I'M GLAD WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT
WORKS FOR EVERYONE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
VERY EXCITED.
3:13:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:13:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAD TO TAKE A CALL OVER THERE FOR SOMETHING WITH THE CITY.
I APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE I WAS TALKING.
I RAN BACK IN HERE.
OBVIOUSLY I WOULD HAVE VOTED YES ON THIS.
LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING FOR SECOND READING.
SOMETIMES YOU GET CALLS --
3:13:23PM >> WE HAVEN'T VOTED YET.
3:13:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL BE DAMNED.
THAT'S FUNNY.
3:13:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OH, MY WORD.
3:13:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING, CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE
OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 22, ARTICLE 1, DIVISION 3, SUBDIVISION
3, SECTION 22-103, WHEN NEW SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION IS
REQUIRED, CONTRIBUTIONS TO SIDEWALK TRUST FUND IN LIEU OF
CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
3:13:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
3:14:03PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 4, 2026 AT
10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
3:14:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
CONGRATULATIONS, BRANDON AND ALL THE STAFF THAT WAS A PART
OF THIS.
ITEM 105.
3:14:33PM >>CARL BRODY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
AND I HAVE WITH ME THE DIRECTOR OF THE EQUAL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT, MS. BERTHA MITCHELL.
3:14:44PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
I WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE OUR AMAZING EQUAL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITY, MR. ARDAIL ALLEN.
HE IS OUR CERTIFICATION EXPERT, NEW CERTIFICATION.
MS. LETA PEREZ, SHE IS OUR OUTREACH SPECIALIST.
AMAZING.

MR. SAJAN PATEL, PRODUCING AMAZING REPORTS.
CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE.
IT IS AMAZING.
WE HAVE MS. CAITLIN DORZBACK.
SHE IS ALSO OUR REPORTING EXPERT AND SHE IS CONDUCTING
ON-SITE VISITS TO MAKE SURE PRIME AND SUBCONTRACTORS ARE
GETTING ALONG.
AND WE HAVE MS. LORETTA BROWN WHO DOES OUR CONTRACT
COMPLIANCE TO ENSURE THAT OUR SUBCONTRACTORS AND CERTIFIED
FIRMS ARE PAID EXPEDITIOUSLY.
AMAZING TEAM.
THANK YOU.
I COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THEM.
THANK YOU.
3:15:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
3:15:53PM >>CARL BRODY:
ITEM 105, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE WE'RE BRINGING
BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING THIS.
THIS IS NOT THE ORDINANCE WE WANTED YOU TO HAVE TO REVIEW
AND APPROVE.
THIS IS ONE WE HAVE TO GET REVIEWED AND APPROVED BECAUSE OF
THE CHANGE IN LAW THAT WE'VE RUN INTO.
SO, LET ME GO THROUGH QUICKLY, WHAT CHANGES ARE
PRECIPITATING THIS.
IN JANUARY OF 2025, THE NEW TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ISSUED

EXECUTIVE ORDER 14173, AND THAT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED
GRANDEES AND CONTRACTORS -- GRANTEES AND CONTRACTORS FROM
USING -- PRACTICING ANY DEI PROGRAMS.
IT WASN'T GREATLY DEFINED, BUT IT WAS BROADLY DEFINED ENOUGH
THAT IT INCLUDED ANY PROGRAM THAT PROVIDED SPECIAL BENEFIT
BASED ON WHAT PREVIOUSLY WERE CONSIDERED PROTECTED CLASSES,
RACE, GENDER, ETHNICITY.
TO CLARIFY THAT, IN JULY OF 2025, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, PAM
BONDI, ISSUED A MEMORANDUM WARNING ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS
AND GRANTEES OF FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ANY USE OF DEI BY THEIR
ORGANIZATIONS WOULD RESULT IN THEM LOSING THOSE GRANTS OR IF
THEY SIGNED OFF ON A GRANT KNOWING THAT THEY HAD A PROGRAM
THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A DEI-TYPE INTERPRETATION, THAT
THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL FALSE CLAIM ACT CLAIMS,
WHICH IS A FEDERAL VIOLATION AND BRINGS ITS OWN SEPARATE
PENALTIES, INCLUDING THREE TIMES DAMAGES.
IN THE EVENT WE HAD A FEDERAL GRANT THAT WAS A MILLION
DOLLARS, THE POTENTIAL PENALTY TO THE CITY WOULD BE $3
MILLION.
THAT WAS THE SUGGESTION OR RESULT OF THE BONDI MEMO THAT
WE'RE CONCERNED WITH.
WE ALSO HAVE IN JANUARY, ACTUALLY, JANUARY 19, 2026, THIS
YEAR, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUED A
MEMO NOTING THAT ANY STATE STATUTE OR ANY CITY STATUTE OR
ANY COUNTY STATUTE THAT PROVIDED ANY KIND OF DEI, AGAIN,

GENERALLY TERMED, THAT WOULD PROVIDE A BENEFIT BASED ON
PROTECTED CLASS, GENDER, RACE, ETHNICITY, WOULD NOT BE
SUPPORTED BY THE STATE AND ANY CHALLENGE, THE STATE WOULD
SUPPORT THE CHALLENGER.
TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A
PROGRAM LIKE THE EBO PROGRAM, THE STATE MORE RECENTLY JUST
THIS MONTH AGO PASSED ITS NEW LAW, SECTION 16604971, WHICH
ALSO PROHIBITED ANY CITY, ANY COUNTY FROM BEING INVOLVED
PROMOTING ANY ACTIVITIES THAT REFERENCE RACE, ETHNICITY,
GENDER.
WHAT CONCERNS US WITH THAT ONE, THIS MOST RECENT PRIMARILY
IS THAT THE PENALTY FOR A VIOLATION OF THAT IS DIRECTLY
FOCUSED ON CITY COUNCILS AND COUNTY COMMISSIONS.
IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT A VIOLATION OF ONE OF THESE
PROVISIONS IS VIOLATED, THE PENALTY WOULD BE MALFEASANCE.
THE OUTCOME OF A MALFEASANCE PENALTY IS A REMOVAL FROM
OFFICE.
SO THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR US WITH THE NEW LAW THAT CAME
FROM THE STATE.
ALSO IT GAVE -- OR GIVES ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OR THIS
COUNTY OR THE STATE STANDING TO BE ABLE TO BRING A CASE,
CHALLENGING ANY OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOME
DEI-RELATED BENEFIT.
AGAIN, THE TERMS AREN'T STRICTLY DEFINED, WHICH IS WHAT
MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US FROM A LEGAL POSITION TO BE

ABLE TO DEFEND.
WHAT DOES OCCUR FROM JUST A BROAD INTERPRETATION IS THAT IT
CHILLS SOME OF OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE PROGRAMS THAT WE LIKE
TO OPERATE.
BUT IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE
CITY, PROTECT YOU, CITY COUNCIL, AND TO PROTECT OUR OVERALL
PROGRAM.
BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE SOMEBODY CHALLENGE
OUR PROGRAM, HAVE IT BE FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF ANY OF
THESE LAWS, RESULTING IN CLOSING A PROGRAM FOR AN EXTENDED
PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL WE CAN DO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WHICH
IS RECONSTITUTE IT.
ALSO WE WANT TO PROTECT THE CITY AGAINST LOSING MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN GRANTS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CONTRACTS THAT WE
GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE BY
PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO THEIR OWN KIND OF AUDITS TO
DETERMINE IF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND STATE GOVERNMENTS
CONTINUE TO OPERATE ANY TYPE OF PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
SO WE KNOW THERE ARE GROUPS OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THIS.
WE KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW HAS A WING OF ITS
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT'S LOOKING TO SEE IF ANY LOCAL
STATE GOVERNMENTS ARE INVOLVED OR CONTINUE TO HAVE PROGRAMS
THAT PROVIDE ANY KIND OF DEI RELATED BENEFIT.
SO IT'S OUR BEST ADVICE TO THE EBO AND TO YOU ALSO THAT WE

AMEND OUR ORDINANCE.
WE AMEND IT TO MAKE IT RACE NEUTRAL.
THAT SHOULD PROTECT US AGAINST ANY CHALLENGES.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
3:22:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CARL.
3:22:04PM >> YES, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR TAKING SWIFT ACTION AND
RECONVENING THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
THEY RECONVENE IN JUNE 2025, AND THE OFFICIAL SUSPENSION OF
THE PROGRAM WAS SEPTEMBER 5 OF 2025.
THAT GROUP MET EVERY SINGLE MONTH, SOMETIMES TWICE A MONTH.
THEY ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROFESSIONALS WHO TOOK TIME
AWAY FROM THEIR BUSINESS AND THEIR PROFESSION FOR THIS
CAUSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND
THEIR EFFORT.
AND, AGAIN, FOR YOU RECONVENING THE EBOAC.
I DEFINITELY AGAIN THANK MY TEAM.
WE ALL SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS REVIEWING THIS ORDINANCE TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT IS INDEED RACE AND GENDER NEUTRAL AND
SATISFIES THESE MANY, MANY DIRECTIVES THAT WERE DIRECTED TO
US.
SO WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RENAME THE
DEPARTMENT TO STRATEGIC BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT

WE DO.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ESPECIALLY
OUR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND TO INCLUDE ALL ETHNIC
GROUPS, BUT PRIMARILY THE FOCUS WILL BE ON SMALL LOCAL
BUSINESSES.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
3:23:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT THE
VALUES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
3:24:03PM >> THANK YOU.
3:24:04PM >>CARL BRODY:
I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES
JUST TO ILLUSTRATE HOW WE ARE MAKING THE BEST OUT OF WHAT WE
CAN --
3:24:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU NEED TO FOR THE RECORD?
3:24:16PM >>CARL BRODY:
NO, I DON'T NEED IT FOR THE RECORD.
3:24:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
WE GOT ALL THE BACKGROUND.
3:24:23PM >>CARL BRODY:
YOU'VE BEEN BRIEFED.
3:24:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE THERE ANY MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS STATE
THAT ARE FIGHTING THIS?
3:24:40PM >>CARL BRODY:
I'M NOT AWARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I HEARD FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND TALKED TO SEVERAL
DIFFERENT LEGAL OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE, MOST OF THEM ARE
DOING AWAY WITH THEIR PROGRAMS OR SUSPENDING THEM COMPLETELY
UNTIL THEY GET A FINAL DETERMINATION, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT

GOING TO HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS.
SO MOST OF THEM ARE DOING AWAY WITH IT.
FROM THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN, WE'RE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN
TERMS OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR PROGRAM TO THE EXTENT THAT
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO PROVIDE WHAT THE INTENT OF
IT IS WITHOUT VIOLATING LAW.
3:25:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
3:25:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
3:25:20PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR
DOING THE WORK.
I KNOW WE'VE MET A FEW TIMES.
KIND OF WENT OVER EVERYTHING.
I THINK JUST ME PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT WE
EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS.
I KNOW THAT YOU ALL PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO JUST MAKING SURE
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE PROGRAM.
BUT IT'S NO SECRET WHAT IS HAPPENING.
I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR STILL MAKING SURE THAT OUR
SMALL AND LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN BUSINESS THAT COMES INTO THE
CITY, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT AS A CITY, EVEN THOUGH WE CANNOT
DIRECT TO MINORITY OR WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES THAT WE WILL
MAKE SURE WE DO OUR JOB BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE CITY THAT IS
EXTREMELY DIVERSE, AND IT WOULD BE, I THINK, A CRIME TO NOT

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
3:26:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE STILL TAMPA.
3:26:16PM >> LASTLY, IF I MAY THANK SOME AMAZING COLLEAGUES, TWO
ESPECIALLY, MR. RICHARD MUTTERBACK OF CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION AND DEANNA FAGGART OF THE PURCHASING
DEPARTMENT.
THEY WERE AMAZING.
SO THANK YOU.
3:26:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA FOLLOWED BY CARLSON.
3:26:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG SAID.
FIRST OFF, BEFORE I MAKE VERY BRIEF REMARKS ON THIS BECAUSE
I TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT MY THOUGHTS.
I WANT TO SAY ALL OF YOU THAT STOOD UP, GOD BLESS YOU GUYS,
YOU GUYS ARE FIGHTING A GOOD FIGHT.
WE'RE MAKING THE BEST OF WHAT WE CAN AND I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE HOW UP IS DOWN AND DOWN IS UP AND THESE NEW
RULES THAT WE'RE LIVING UNDER, RIGHT, THAT MAKE NO SENSE.
THEY DEFY MORAL GRAVITY AND DEFY OUR HISTORY.
IF YOU LOOK AT CURSORY 30 SECONDS, RIGHT, JUST BASIC REVIEW
OF HISTORY FROM 1619 TO THE START OF OUR COUNTRY, 150 YEARS
OF SLAVERY.
START OF A COUNTRY TO CIVIL WAR, 90 YEARS OF SLAVERY.
BEGINNING OF CIVIL WAR, 50% OF FLORIDA ENSLAVED.

11 YEARS OF RECONSTRUCTION.
JIM CROW, 6 MILLION AFRICAN AMERICANS FLED THE SOUTH TO GO
UP NORTH IN THE GREAT MIGRATION.
I WAS BORN 11 YEARS AFTER THE FORMAL END OF JIM CROW.
WE'RE TOLD THAT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THE
BRUTAL HISTORY OF TORTURE AND IMMORALITY HAS ON PEOPLE
TODAY.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT PRESENT EFFECTS.
GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE ACTION.
THE 14th AMENDMENT IS BEING USED TO TURN ITSELF ON ITS
HEAD.
MAN, THAT'S CRAZY.
I UNDERSTAND.
I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE
HAVE TO DO.
I THINK WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE UPSIDE DOWN GRAVITY THAT
WE'RE LIVING IN IN THIS COUNTRY AND HOW SINCE JANUARY OF
2025, THINGS THAT PEOPLE USED TO WHISPER AND TALK IN HUSHED
CORNERS THEY ARE YELLING, OFTEN COMING FROM 1600
PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
WE HAVE TO STAND UP TO IT BECAUSE IT IS IMMORAL.
I'LL VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP
HIGHWAY MONEY AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.
WE OUGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMMORAL UNIVERSE THAT WE'RE
LIVING IN WHICH IS GOING TO BE TIME LIMITED, GOD WILLING.

3:28:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FILE NUMBER 105, FILE 2026-8, CHAPTER
26.5, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
DELETING IN ITS ENTIRETY THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
ORDINANCES ARTICLES 1, 2, 3 OF CHAPTER 26.5, EQUAL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM ADOPTED REVISED ARTICLES ONE, TWO, AND
THREE OF CHAPTER 26.5, RENAMING EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
TO STRATEGIC BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU HERE AND THOSE WHO WORK BEHIND
THE SCENES TO MAKE AMERICA BEAUTIFUL.
3:29:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:29:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO TALK PHILOSOPHICALLY FOR A SECOND, I KNOW
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE FRUSTRATED THAT WOULD LOOK AT
CHANGING THIS AT ALL.
AS ATTORNEYS SAID, WE PUSHED BACK IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE A SUBSET OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY.
IF YOU WANT TO HELP US CHANGE THAT, GET DIFFERENT PEOPLE
ELECTED IN THOSE SEATS SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT.
ONE OPPORTUNITY I THINK IS THAT WHEN I TALK TO SMALL
BUSINESSES OR MINORITY WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES, WHAT THEY
WANT MOST OF ALL IS A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

TOO OFTEN CITIES AND TAMPA IN PARTICULAR, HAS HAD SILOS, IF
YOU ARE NOT A PART OF THE CLIQUE, YOU CAN'T GET IN.
STILL GROUPS IN TAMPA WHERE YOU HAVE TO PAY $50,000 TO JOIN
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ASKED TO JOIN AND YOU CAN'T JOIN
OTHERWISE.
IF THE BIG BUSINESSES THAT COULD SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES
HAVE A WALL AROUND THEM, THEN IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR
EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE.
WE NEED MORE CROSS-POLLINATION OF IDEAS, AND WHY IS THIS
IMPORTANT?
IT'S NOT A PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUE.
IT'S AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.
IF THE BEST WAY TO BUILD INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH IS BY
PEOPLE BUILDING UP THEIR OWN BUSINESSES OR WORKING IN
ENTREPRENEURIAL BUSINESSES AND GETTING SHARES.
WHAT MADE AMERICA GREAT IS THE ENTREPRENEURS THAT HAVE
DRIVEN OUR ECONOMY AND THE MAJORITY OF JOBS IN OUR COUNTRY
ARE BY SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GROW THEM.
BUT AN EXAMPLE, THERE ARE ALREADY MANY, IF YOU TAKE
BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CDC, THE BLACK
CHAMBER, TOBA, A BUNCH OF OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO
BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES AND GROUPS OF WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES
AND HISPANIC OWNED BUSINESSES AND OTHERS.
JUST AS YOU ALL WOULD REACH OUT TO THE SOUTH TAMPA CHAMBER,

REACH OUT TO THE BLACK CHAMBER.
REACH OUT TO TOBA.
REACH OUT TO ALL THE GROUPS.
THEY HAVE GROUPS OF BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO ARE HUNGRY TO BUILD
BUSINESS.
I JUST HAVE TO SAY I'M SO IMPRESSED AND INSPIRED BY
ENTREPRENEURS.
I WAS WITH A GROUP OF BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS LEADERS RECENTLY.
ONE OF THE START-UP BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE JUST
STARTING OUT IS MAYBE DOING JANITORIAL SERVICES.
THERE WAS A LADY IN THE ROOM WHO HAD DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB
GETTING REFERRALS THAT SHE HAS NOW STARTED A REFERRAL
SERVICE TO FEED OTHER JANITORIAL BUSINESSES.
IN THE ROOM, THERE WERE THREE WHO WERE GETTING FED BY HER.
THE THING TO ME, THE HUMAN MIND, THE AMERICAN MIND, THE WAY
WE ARE RAISED, CREATES THIS CREATIVITY AND DRIVE TO SUCCEED.
AND PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING THE RIGHT
DOORS OPEN, NOT GIVING SPECIAL TREATMENT BUT HAVING THE
RIGHT DOORS OPEN.
PEOPLE CAN INNOVATE AND EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SUCCEED
AND MAKE THIS A GREAT COUNTRY.
THANK YOU ALL FOR CARRYING THIS FORWARD AND LET US KNOW IF
WE CAN HELP CREATE A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR EVERYONE.
3:31:58PM >> THANK YOU.
WE'RE ALSO MISSING JOSE VALDEZ.

TO YOUR POINT, HE'S CONDUCTING SHELTERED MARKET COMMITTEE
MEETINGS AND GOAL SETTING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WHICH WE
INVITE TO THE PUBLIC.
WE SEND OUT THAT INVITATION THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND.
3:32:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
3:32:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
I CAN'T DO IT.
3:32:26PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 4, 2026 AT
10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
3:32:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 39, PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
3:32:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS $150,000 FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO GO TO THE HANNA
CITY CENTER.
I MEAN, WE'VE GIVEN HANNA $120 MILLION.
IN ALL OF THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD OUT
EVERYTHING.
CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHY WE NEED 150 MORE MILLION
DOLLARS FOR A BRAND-NEW BUILDING?

NO, 150.
BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR 50 AND NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR A
HUNDRED MORE.
3:33:22PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
YOU ARE CORRECT.
IN THE 2026 BUDGET, BRENDA ASKED FOR $50,000 TO BUILD OUT
THE SHELL FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
I'M GOING TO LET HER TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMMATIC OUTCOMES.
SHE WENT AND GOT HER BIDS, AND NOW THE COST IS $150,000.
THERE'S $1.3 MILLION IN THE AVAILABLE BALANCE.
THE PROJECT, HOWEVER, THAT MONEY IS BEING RESERVED FOR THE
BUILD-OUT OF THE CAFE.
AND UNTIL WE GO AHEAD AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THE
CAFE, WE WANT TO KEEP THE FUNDS RESTRICTED, AND THAT'S WHY
-- HANNA PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR BRENDA'S PROJECT.
3:34:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DO NOT HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT CAFE YET.
3:34:06PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
I THINK THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
IN DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TO
THE CAFE?
3:34:12PM >> THEY ARE WORKING ON A PLAN.
3:34:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD REALLY RATHER TAKE THIS MONEY FROM
THAT PLAN BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HEARING THIS SINCE BEFORE HANNA
GOT STARTED.
I'M JUST -- I'M SURPRISED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BUILD-OUT FOR
A FACILITY THAT WE WERE TOLD WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETED WITH
THE OVER 140 -- WHAT ARE WE UP TO NOW?

MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS BUILDING.
3:34:40PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
IT'S ABOUT 120, MA'AM.
3:34:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ABOUT 240 WHEN YOU INCLUDE O & M AND
INTEREST OVER 30 YEARS.
3:34:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE POINT BEING IF WE HAVE THE $1.3 MILLION
FOR THE CAFE WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DO THAT, THE BEST THING TO DO IS USE THAT
MONEY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY REQUEST IS THAT WE TAKE THAT MONEY
FROM THE 1.3 MILLION THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THIS
PROJECT TO FINISH ANYTHING WE NEED TO FINISH.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
I THINK WE NEED IT.
I THINK WE NEED TO USE THE MONEY WE ALREADY HAVE TO DO THAT.
3:35:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:35:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, IN THE VERY BEGINNING, CITY COUNCIL
REQUESTED THAT THERE BE COWORK SPACE THERE, SO WE CAN
MOBILIZE THAT.
THEN THE ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE TO LISTEN
TO CITY COUNCIL'S IDEA SAID WE'LL MAKE A CAFE ABOUT IT OR
WHATEVER.
BUT THIS PROCESS, THIS PROCESS HAS GONE WAY OVER -- THE
BUILDING WENT WAY OVER BUDGET.
IT WAS WAY BEYOND THE ORIGINAL SPECS.
IT'S NOT BEING MANAGED CORRECTLY AT 40% OR WHATEVER IS

EMPTY.
AND THE STAFF DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO SUBLEASE
AND HASN'T HAD ANY PLAN FOR SUBLEASING.
THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME.
THE OTHER THING IS, I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES AND I THINK WE
AS COUNCIL VOTED SEVERAL TIMES TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CURRENT
COMMERCIAL VALUATION OF IT IS BECAUSE WE NEED THAT FOR
INSURANCE PURPOSES.
I'M PRETTY CERTAIN IT'S NOT CLOSE TO WHAT IT IS.
I THINK WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO IS PUT THIS BUILDING ON THE
MARKET AND LET THE MARKET DECIDE HOW MUCH IT'S REALLY WORTH.
IF WE ARE UPSIDE DOWN, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT
MEANS.
IT WAS A HORRIBLE BUSINESS DECISION TO TAKE.
CONTRAST WHAT THEY DID AT THE AIRPORT.
PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUILD A BUILDING, AND THEY
HAD AN OPTION TO BUY IT.
THE BUILDING WENT WAY UP BEYOND THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATION OF
WHAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH AND PROFITABLE.
THEY USED THE OPTION TO BUY IT BACK TO MAKE A PROFIT.
LOOK AT WHAT THE COUNTY DID WITH COUNTY CENTER IN BUYING
THEIR BUILDING.
THIS BUILDING WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY.
IT WAS A BAD DECISION.
THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET SOLD FOR LESS THAN THIS

BUILDING COST TO BUILD DURING THE PROCESS THAT THIS WAS
BEING PLANNED.
AND WE NEED PROFESSIONALISM IN THE CITY, AND WE NEED THIS
ADMINISTRATION TO START BEING RESPONSIBLE TO TAXPAYERS.
THANK YOU.
3:36:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:36:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, I'M SORRY.
3:36:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE TO RETURN THIS WITH
THE MONEY COMING OUT OF THAT 1.3 FOR THE CAFE.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
WE AGREE ON THAT, BUT SINCE WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET, AND IF THAT CAFE COMES BACK, WE
CAN FIND OTHER FUNDING, BUT RIGHT NOW, I WANT A RESOLUTION,
A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO COME BACK USING THE 1.3 TO FUND
THIS PROGRAM.
3:37:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MIDYEAR BUDGETS HAVE
TO ORIGINATE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, OUR CHOICE WOULD BE TO
VOTE THIS DOWN WITH THE ADVICE TO COME BACK.
3:37:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR THEM TO LOOK AT IT AND
FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF COMING BACK.
WHEN THEY COME BACK, IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, THEY'LL LET US
KNOW.
OR IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE.
MY MOTION IS TO BRING IT BACK WITH THE MONEY COMING FROM --

3:37:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
3:37:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:37:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH THE
DIRECTION TO AMEND THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING.
3:37:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:38:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE A DATE?
3:38:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OUR NEXT AVAILABLE REALLY IS JUNE 4.
JUNE 4 IS THE NEXT ONE.
IT STILL WOULD BE -- I TOOK IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IT COULD STILL BE A CONSENT ITEM.
I JUST DISAGREE WITH HOW THIS IS FUNDED.
3:38:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CONTINUE
ITEM 39 TO JUNE 4 WITH THE ADVICE TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO
REAPPROPRIATE THE MONEY OUT OF THE EXISTING FUNDS SET ASIDE
FROM HANNA AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL FUND MONEY.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
3:38:44PM >> BRENDA McKENZIE, WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL WAS AWARE THERE ARE SOME TIME
SENSITIVITIES.
THIS IS A COWORKING SPACE FOR NONPROFIT UNITS THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO GET OFF THE GROUND TO SUPPLEMENT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
AND GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO CAREERS.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL BE OPEN IN THE FALL.
WE DO HAVE SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS TO GET THIS CONTRACTED AND
BUILT OUT IN TIME.

3:39:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE AN EARLIER DATE?
3:39:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
BECAUSE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT IN BY
TOMORROW.
3:39:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU ABLE TO DO AN APPROPRIATION CHANGE
BETWEEN NOW AND TOMORROW FOR THIS RESOLUTION?
3:39:21PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
IF WE CAN MAKE THE MAY 21st MEETING,
WE'LL TRY FOR IT.
3:39:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU CAN MAKE MAY 21st, IF NOT, JUNE 4.
IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING.
WE DON'T WANT TO STOP IT.
WE NEED THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE.
3:39:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UNDERSTANDING THE TIME PARAMETERS AND THE
STAFF WILL DO THIS FOR SUBMISSION TOMORROW.
AMENDMENT IS MAY 21st TO BRING THIS BACK, CONTINUATION OF
ITEM 39 TO MAY 21st.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:39:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT THE MOTION TO AMEND?
3:39:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS --
3:39:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENT.
3:39:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S FINE.
THANK YOU.

3:40:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE ARE MOVING TO STAFF REPORTS.
113.
3:40:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAD WANTED TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON THIS.
LET ME, IF I MAY, PASS OUT DOCUMENTS FOR YOU ALL.
3:40:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE CLERK AND ME?
3:40:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GIVE IT WHENEVER YOU ARE DONE.
ALL GOOD.
I ASKED MR. BRODY DID IT NEED TO COME HERE FOR THIS.
I WANTED TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO WITH
THIS, WHICH IS MY PROPOSAL THAT I STARTED TALKING ABOUT WITH
LOCAL 754 AND THE POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION OF TAMPA WAS
TO HAVE A MANDATORY REVIEW FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
WE WOULD EVENTUALLY COME DOWN WITH THE ADVICE OF CHIEF TRIPP
I BELIEVE IT WAS IN A MEETING WISELY TO LOOKING AT DOING IT
EVERY THREE YEARS.
EVERY YEAR WOULD BE VERY ONEROUS AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING
REALLY, REALLY DONE.
I DON'T CARE IF WE DO IT VIA CHARTER AMENDMENT OR ORDINANCE
OR WHATEVER, SO LONG AS IT GETS DONE.
WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT I FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY
ABOUT THAT I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL FEELS VERY STRONGLY
ABOUT.
THE MAIN ISSUE IS ONE OF TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS THAT
CITIZENS IN TAMPA AND SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES, THEY SHOULD
BE DOING THIS ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA, SHOULD HAVE

REVIEWS OF WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY DEFICITS ARE WITH REGARDS TO
COPS ON THE STREETS, NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS, INFRASTRUCTURE,
NEW FIRE STATIONS, HOW FIRE STATIONS ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH
IT WOULD COST TO REMEDY THAT.
PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT WHILE WE MAKE DECISIONS ON DIFFERENT
THINGS INVOLVING OTHER AREAS OF OUR BUDGET.
I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DURING MOTION TIME, A BIG ISSUE WITH
NEW TAMPA AND 33647, SOMETHING THAT FOLKS THERE ARE VERY
ACUTELY AWARE OF.
SO REALLY IT'S ONE OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EVERYBODY.
FOR ALL SEVEN OF US, FOR THE EXECUTIVE, FOR EVERYBODY.
I COULD GO OVER THE HISTORY OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
PLAN.
I THINK I FIRST PROPOSED THAT IN 2020.
THEN THE ADMINISTRATION I THINK FUNDED IT JUST UNDER THE
THRESHOLD THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO APPROVE IT.
WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT I THINK IN 2023.
WE FUNDED ANOTHER $50,000 FOR AN UPDATED ONE WHICH I DON'T
BELIEVE WAS DONE.
I'M FRANKLY TAKING THIS ROUTE SO WE COULD HAVE ONE DONE
MANDATORY.
WHAT THIS COMPROMISE WOULD DO, COUNCIL, THE MAYOR WOULD DO
AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WOULD COME FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
OBVIOUSLY, DETAILING A MANDATORY THREE-YEAR PUBLIC SAFETY
MASTER PLAN.

WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW WITH MYSELF, THE TWO PUBLIC SAFETY
UNIONS, POLICE AND FIRE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON NEGOTIATED
LANGUAGE FOR THAT.
CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONCURRENTLY PASS WITH THAT AN ORDINANCE
MANDATING THAT ANY MODIFICATION BY ANY FUTURE MAYOR OF ANY
KIND TO THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER WOULD REQUIRE NOTICE, PROPER
NOTICE.
GOING TO WHAT NOTICE IS ON COUNCIL AND ALSO PASS A
RESOLUTION OF THAT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WHAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
WOULD SAY.
754 HAS GIVEN THEIR SUGGESTIONS.
MY MOTION IS, AND I THINK I HAD JUNE 17 PICKED OUT, WHICH I
THINK IS OPEN.
I SPOKE WITH MR. CARL BRODY DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS --
SORRY, JUNE 18, CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 18 AND WE CAN INVITE
MR. BRODY TO COME.
WE CAN INVITE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WISH TO COME, POLICE,
FIRE, AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED UNIONS TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROGRESS ON THIS.
I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT BY THIS TIME WE CAN GET LANGUAGE.
THAT IS THE GIST.
3:43:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 114 TO JUNE 18.
IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

3:43:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IT
BEING EXECUTIVE ORDER WITH A RESOLUTION.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE THAT I THINK COUNCIL
DOCUMENTS SHOULD SUPERSEDE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER COULD CONFIRM IT.
SOMETIMES WE CODIFY AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
BUT I THINK IT OUGHT TO ORIGINATE AT CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE
THEN IT LOOKS MORE REPRESENTATIVE.
IT DOESN'T LOOK POLITICAL.
3:44:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AGREE.
MY BIG THING IS, I WANT TO GET IT DONE.
I HEAR YOU ON YOUR SENTIMENTS ON PROCEDURAL ISSUES,
ET CETERA.
WE ARE GOING TO PASS AN ORDINANCE FOR IT.
AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO DO IN A COLLABORATIVE
WAY.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENTS, VERY SYMPATHETIC.
MY LARGER THING IS GET THIS DONE.
I HAVE SIX MONTHS.
BEEN TRYING TO GET THE DAMN THING PASSED FOR SIX YEARS ONE
WAY OR ANOTHER.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT PATH TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.
FRANKLY IT SHOULD BE DONE IN EVERY CITY IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE.
3:45:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:45:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU GO TO
TALLAHASSEE, THIS WILL BE MY CONCERN, AND I WANT YOU TO
REALLY CONSIDER IT.
THIS IS RIGHT NOW AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
TO REALLY MAKE IT FRUITFUL YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME FUNDS.
3:45:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
SENSITIVE TO THAT.
3:45:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THIS LANGUAGE
ABOUT DEDICATED FUNDING, WHATEVER THAT FUNDING MIGHT BE.
DON'T YOU DARE GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE MAKING A BUNCH OF
UNFUNDED MANDATE LAWS.
YOU WILL FIT RIGHT IN.
WE NEED CHANGE.
YEAH, THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU?
OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST ONE WILL BE A BIG LIFT, BUT IDEALLY, IF
YOU ARE DOING THESE OVER TIME, THE LIFT WILL BE MUCH
SMALLER, BUT WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE, SORT OF LIKE WHEN
WE DID THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND WE MADE SURE WE PUT
FUNDING IN THERE FOR IT, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT A FUTURE
ADMINISTRATION CAN'T SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO
DO THIS.
3:46:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I RESPOND TO THAT BRIEFLY?

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
REMEMBER, WE DID THE PARKS AND THIS IS BEFORE YOU GOT ON,
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE DID THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
IT IS A VISION OF WHAT EACH DISTRICT NEEDS TO HAVE EQUITY ON
PARKS.
THIS WOULD BE A VISION OR A PATHWAY ON WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE
EQUITY ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT'S NOT A MANDATE TO SPEND IT.
I SAY THAT SO WE CAN HAVE TRANSPARENCY SO THAT THE PUBLIC
CAN KNOW WHAT WE'RE MISSING.
3:46:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE KIND OF SPIRALING.
3:46:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THE MANDATE --
3:46:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE SPIRALING INTO THE ISSUES.
THIS IS ABOUT CONTINUING THE ITEM TO JUNE 18.
IT'S ALREADY 4:00 AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN FRONT OF
US.
3:46:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO HIM.
I'M HEARING HIM SAY IT IS A MANDATE TO DO THE WORK.
I'M SAYING A MANDATE TO PAY FOR THE PLAN.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING THE WORK WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
3:47:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GUESS WHO HOLDS THAT BUDGET SHORTLY.
VERY GOOD.
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 18.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 115.
CAN WE OPEN 115 AND 116 TOGETHER?
LET'S DO BOTH TOGETHER.
ACTION PLAN AND THE BUDGET.
3:47:36PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
GERI LOPEZ, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT A BRIEF
SUMMARY OF OUR FINAL REPORT FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN.
WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS IN DECEMBER OF '24 AND OUR INTERNAL
WORKING GROUPS, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, ALONG WITH THE
COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH HAVE PUT A LOT
OF WORK INTO THIS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE LAUREN VASQUEZ FROM OUR CITY
PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS BEEN THE LEAD ON THIS EFFORT TO
PRESENT THE PLAN.
3:48:09PM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ALL RIGHT.
LAUREN VASQUEZ, CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY, THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS ON THE
FINAL PLAN.
THIS ONE WILL GO BY QUICK.

OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE ON THAT CATALYTIC
PROJECT IDENTIFICATION.
SO LIKE I SAID, THIS PRESENTATION IS ON PRESENTING THE FINAL
PLAN WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON OUR PROJECT WEBSITE,
TAMPA.GOV/SULPHUR SPRINGS.
WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU ON THIS PLAN TWICE BEFORE.
THE LAST TIME IN OCTOBER, SO THIS SLIDE MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO
YOU.
WE BEGAN THIS PROJECT IN DECEMBER OF 2024, AND WE WRAPPED IT
UP IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
AND WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON IS OUR PHASE
THREE ENGAGEMENT AND THOSE RESULTS AS WELL AS THE FORMAT AND
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FINAL PLAN.
AS WE DID FOR THE LAST -- THE FIRST TWO PHASES OF THE PLAN,
PHASE THREE ALSO HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY.
THIS ONLINE SURVEY WAS VERY BRIEF.
IT WAS ONLY FIVE QUESTIONS.
WE REALLY WANTED TO KEEP IT FOCUSED ON VALIDATING THAT WE
WERE REFLECTING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REFLECTED WHAT THE
COMMUNITY HAD TOLD US AND ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO
IMPLEMENTATION NEXT STEPS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A SAMPLING OF RESULTS ON THE
SLIDE.
WE ASKED PEOPLE TO INDICATE WHICH OF THE PRIORITY ACTION
AREAS WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM AND ALSO HOW THEY WANTED TO GET

INVOLVED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS BROAD SUPPORT FOR THE
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF VARIETY AND INTEREST
IN GETTING INVOLVED IN THOSE NEXT STEPS.
SO THAT FELT VALIDATING FOR US BEING ABLE TO REFLECT WHAT WE
WERE HEARING.
WE ALSO WENT AHEAD AND ALSO HOSTED A PHASE THREE WORKSHOP AS
WELL.
THIS, AGAIN, FOCUSED ON GETTING FEEDBACK ON THOSE FINAL
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLAN.
ACTUALLY, AT THIS MEETING, I THINK ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF
IT WAS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO ALMOST AN HOUR OF Q & A WITH
THE ATTENDEES, WHICH I FELT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO ESTABLISH A
DIALOGUE BETWEEN US AND THE RESIDENTS TO HEAR THEIR FEEDBACK
VERY CLEARLY AND FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND
JUST INFORMATION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING THIS PLAN
FORWARD.
SO THE REPORT IS ORGANIZED INTO FOUR SECTIONS.
THE FIRST SECTION REALLY BEING THAT EXISTING CONDITIONS AND
LITERATURE REVIEW.
THE SECOND SECTION BEING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RESULTS
AND HOW WE FORMED THE VISION AND THE PRINCIPLES OF HOW THE
PLAN WAS PUT TOGETHER.
AND THEN THE BULK OF THE PLAN IS THE PLAYBOOK ACTION AREAS.
THOSE ARE THE TOP TEN PRIORITY AREAS WE HEARD AS PART OF THE

PLAN.
THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
AND THEN CERTAINLY, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ARE THE
COMMUNITY-LED ACTIONS.
WE WANTED THIS TO BE A GUIDE BOOK NOT ONLY FOR WHAT THE CITY
IS DOING MOVING FORWARD IN SULPHUR SPRINGS BUT ALSO A GUIDE
BOOK THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD USE TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO
SOME COMMUNITY-LED CHANGE.
SO, AGAIN, THE SLIDE SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.
THIS WAS PRESENTED IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID OUR
PHASE TWO PRESENTATION.
THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE FIRST FIVE OF THOSE PRIORITY ACTION
AREAS.
THE FIRST ONE BEING ABOUT PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THOSE
COMMUNITY LED RECOMMENDATIONS, CREATING PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIPS TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO
DO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
AFFORDABLE RENTER AND OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, REDEVELOPING
VACANT AND DISTRESSED AREAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS
IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES BY THE RESIDENTS
AND, OF COURSE, ENSURING THAT THERE IS ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD,
WHICH CURRENTLY IS AN ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ON THE SECOND SLIDE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT WE SHOWED YOU IN OCTOBER.
WE GOT SOME CLEAR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL THAT YOU ALL FELT

THAT WE SHOULD REALLY BE HIGHLIGHTING MORE ECONOMIC AND
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.
AT THAT TIME, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IN THE PLAN.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A FIFTH SECTION OF THE PLAN JUST CALLED
"OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS."
BUT UPON FURTHER REFLECTION AND HEARING COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND
HEARING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, WE FELT THAT IT WAS BETTER FOR
US TO BE MORE CLEAR AND EFFICIENT IN WHAT WE'RE
RECOMMENDING.
SO WHAT WE DID AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THOSE OTHER
RECOMMENDATIONS, WE LOOKED AT WHERE CAN WE BE MORE CONCISE
AND CLEAR WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
SO THERE USED TO BE TWO MOBILITY RELATED PRIORITY ACTION
AREAS.
ONE WAS RELATED TO SAFE STREETS FOR ALL.
ONE WAS RELATED TO CONNECTIVITY.
WHAT WE DID IS COMBINE THOSE TWO AREAS, BUT WE DIDN'T LOSE
ANYTHING FROM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT SAID CLOSE
SIDEWALK GAPS AND A TOTALLY DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION THAT
SAID MAKE SURE THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE SHADED AND
COMFORTABLE, NOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MORE CLEAR TO THE
POINT REFLECTING OUR PRINCIPLES OF HAVING COMPLETE STREETS.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD INSTEAD BE HAVE COMFORTABLE,
CONNECTED SIDEWALKS TO GET YOU TO PLACES IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD.
BY BEING MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR LANGUAGE IN THAT WAY, WE WERE
ABLE TO ADD ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS A PRIORITY
ACTION AREA AND REALLY HIGHLIGHT THOSE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS
THAT WE WERE MAKING.
ALSO ON THE SLIDE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE MAKING THE ACCESS TO
THE MANY, MANY PARKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER, ENHANCING
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND PROMOTING PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO, UNDER EACH OF THE PRIORITY ACTION AREAS, THERE IS A
VARIED NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS
ARE ALL WRITTEN TO BE ACTION ORIENTED.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ENCOURAGE OR PROMOTE, IT'S DO THIS,
RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE AN ACTION PLAN.
EACH OF THESE ACTIONS ARE ASSIGNED EITHER PRIMARY,
SECONDARY, OR LONG TERM, AND WE CHOSE THAT LANGUAGE
SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES IN
PLANS YOU'LL HAVE SHORT TERM MEANS ZERO TO SIX MONTHS.
WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING
WITHIN A SIX MONTH TIME SPAN, WITHIN A ONE-YEAR TIME SPAN
BUT WE WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ON THESE SHOULD BE THE
ACTIONS TAKEN FIRST TO SET A FOUNDATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND WHAT IS COMING FORWARD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A
WAY TO MEASURE OUR SUCCESS OF IMPLEMENTATION.
SO EACH OF THE ACTIONS ALSO HAS A SET OF METRICS THAT LETS

US KNOW, OKAY, HOW SUCCESSFUL HAVE WE BEEN IN IMPLEMENTING
THIS.
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE HOW MANY HOME OWNERSHIP WORKSHOPS HAVE
BEEN HELD IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EACH OF THE PLAYBOOK
ACTION AREAS ALSO HAS THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS SUCH AS A
CASE STUDY AND VISUALIZATIONS.
THE PURPOSE OF THESE WAS REALLY TO GIVE MORE OF A PICTURE OF
HOW CAN THIS LOOK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
HERE IS HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING IT OR HERE IS AN
ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
IT HELPS GROUND IN AN ACHIEVABLE REALITY.
I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES IN THE TIMES THAT I HAVE PRESENTED
TO YOU ALL OR PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT HAS ALWAYS
BEEN OUR INTENT TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THE PLAN.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES AND GETTING
IMPLEMENTATION GOING BEFORE THE PLAN WAS EVEN FINALIZED.
THANKFULLY DUE TO GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH PARTNER NONPROFIT
RESILIENT CITIES CATALYST, WE WERE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF
THESE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE.
WE WERE ABLE TO FUND A COMPLETE STREET DESIGN FOR BIRD
STREET.
WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT TO COMMUNITY EVENTS TO CONTINUE TO DO
THAT COALITION BUILDING AMONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO LAUNCH THE TAMPA WEATHER-WISE SMALL

BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM WHICH IS BOTH IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
IN WEST TAMPA.
AND THAT IS GOING TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES PURCHASE ITEMS
THAT ARE GOING TO HELP THEM BE MORE RESILIENT TO EXTREME
WEATHER LIKE HEAT AND HURRICANES.
SO IN MY NEXT PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME
PROJECT IDEAS PER COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG'S MOTION, BUT IN THE
MEANTIME, AFTER THAT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH OUR TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP DEPARTMENTS TO HELP THEM
IMPLEMENT KIND OF THEIR EASY WIN IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES
AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO RECONVENE THE WHOLE GROUP AT LEAST
QUARTERLY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING SULPHUR SPRINGS TOP OF
MIND FOR ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE FINAL PLAN OR I
CAN GO RIGHT INTO THE SECOND PRESENTATION.
3:57:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KEEP GOING.
BRING UP THE NEXT PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
ITEM 116.
UH-OH, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
YOU HAVE HARD COPIES.
THANK YOU, CTTV.
3:57:58PM >> THIS IS STAPLED.
SHOULD I TAKE OUT THE STAPLES?
3:58:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT AIN'T FANCY.
3:58:06PM >> I'LL SAY MY NAME AGAIN.

LAUREN VASQUEZ, CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GLAD I'LL BE ABLE TO POINT
DIRECTLY ON THE PAPER FOR THIS ONE.
FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND, WELL,
FIRST OF ALL, WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO DEVELOP A
SPECIFIC BUDGET FOR A CATALYST PROJECT OR PROGRAM BASED ON
THE PRIORITY ACTIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN AND BY THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
TO ADDRESS THAT FIRST POINT, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT -- SO
CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE MOTION ON MARCH 5, AND OVER THE
COURSE OF MARCH, WE MET WITH TEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, OVER
NINE DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT PART OF THAT SLIDE REALLY WAS THE
AGENDA FOR EACH OF THOSE MEETINGS.
WE STARTED IT OFF BY FIRST LOOKING AT ALL THE ASSIGNED
ACTION, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR AS WRITTEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN.
AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE YOUR EASY WINS.
WHAT ARE THINGS YOU ALREADY HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD?
I REALIZED I'M STILL HOLDING THE REMOTE.
WHAT ARE YOUR EASY WINS?
WHAT ARE CONSTRAINTS TO ACHIEVING THE REST OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO YOU IN THE PLAN.
IF THOSE CONSTRAINTS WERE ADDRESSED, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING

LIKE FUNDING WHAT COULD BE MOVED FORWARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL
YEAR.
LETTER FROM THE SULPHUR SPRINGS ACTION LEAGUE, THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE IMPLICATIONS IN
THE LETTER SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THE FEASIBILITY OF SOME
OF THE REQUESTS.
AND I FORGOT -- YEAH, IT PRINTED WEIRD FOR US.
IMAGINE SOME NICE PICTURES THERE.
AS HIGHLIGHTED, OF COURSE, IN MY LAST PRESENTATION, AND IN
THE PRESENTATIONS WE'VE MADE BEFORE THAT, WE DID EXTENSIVE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS PART OF THIS AND NOT JUST
TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE MET PEOPLE WHERE THEY
WERE AT, ON THE STREET, AT FOOD BANKS, AT SCHOOL EVENTS.
WE WANTED TO GET A HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
NEEDS WERE.
SO AS A RESULT, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING
TO SAY ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REFLECTING THE NEEDS OF EVERYONE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT WE FOUND WERE THAT THESE TOP FIVE NEEDS, COMMUNITY
SAFETY, HOUSING STABILITY, SAFE STREETS, ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND PARK ACCESS -- THANK YOU.
JAVIER HAD A NICE COPY.
NOW THAT I CAN NOTE IT, NOW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE

PICTURES, THESE ARE ALL PICTURES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
FROM THAT EXTENSIVE ON THE STREET ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID.
THESE ARE THE TOP FIVE PRIORITIES, AND WHILE MAYBE YOU MIGHT
TALK TO DIFFERENT RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY MIGHT NUMBER IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER FIVE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM THE NEXT
PERSON'S NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER FIVE.
WE FOUND THAT THE FIVE TOPIC AREAS WERE CONSISTENTLY VERY
IMPORTANT TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
OKAY.
SO TODAY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REALLY TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS
OF FUNDING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SURPLUS FUNDING $150,000 THAT WAS
ALLOCATED BY CITY COUNCIL EARLIER TODAY.
AND THEN ALSO GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF
FISCAL YEAR 2027 PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS.
SO ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDING IS
THAT WE ARE ON A TIMELINE FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDING.
WE HAVE TO EXPEND THE $150,000 THIS FISCAL YEAR, IN FISCAL
YEAR 2026.
BEFORE THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
THIS IS THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT IN VERY EARLY MARCH.

LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH, AND REALLY TOOK TO HEART THE
QUICK VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS.
I'LL KIND OF GET INTO SOME OF THEIR SPECIFIC REQUESTS ON THE
NEXT SLIDE, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT WAS
SOMETHING WE WERE CONSIDERING WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE
SURPLUS FUNDING PROJECTS.
FOR FISCAL YEAR '27, WE'RE THINKING MORE ABOUT LARGER SCALE
PROJECTS.
BUT IN BOTH CASES, WE REALLY WANTED SOMETHING THAT HAD
EXISTING SUPPORT BECAUSE AS THIS COUNCIL LIKELY KNOWS, EVEN
THOUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027 WE HAVE MORE TIME TO DEVELOP AND
IMPLEMENT PROJECTS, ONE FISCAL YEAR IS ALSO NOT A LOT OF
TIME TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
SO WE STILL WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SUGGESTING
SOMETHING THAT HAD AN EXISTING FOUNDATION AND WAS REASONABLE
TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN IT REALLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT ALL THE PROJECTS
ARE ROOTED IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PRIORITIES AND THE WORK AND
FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE PLAN.
BEFORE I GET INTO THIS SLIDE, I DID JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON
YOU ALL LIKELY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
ACTION LEAGUE THIS MORNING.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, SO THEY ARE FIRMLY EXPRESSING THEIR
SUPPORT FOR THAT MINI-GRANT PROGRAM, FOR GRANTS DIRECTLY TO
BUSINESS OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

WHILE WE FOR SURE SUPPORT THAT AND THE IDEA OF THAT, IT WAS
JUST DEEMED NOT FEASIBLE FOR US TO DO AS PART OF THE SURPLUS
FUNDING BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET IT EXPENDED BY SEPTEMBER
2026.
SO AS A RESULT WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS, WE REALLY WERE
THINKING ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO THAT IS STILL ACHIEVING THE
SPIRIT OF WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR.
SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR HOW CAN WE HELP SMALL BUSINESSES, HOW
CAN WE HELP RESIDENTS CLEAN UP, HAVE THEIR HOMES, THEIR
PROPERTIES LOOK A LITTLE NICER?
SO HERE IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IN THAT VEIN.
THE SOLID WASTE SWEEPS WE MET WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT
AND SOLID WASTE EXTENSIVELY TO DISCUSS THIS.
NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT LET US KNOW THAT THE MOST PREVALENT
ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEBRIS ACCUMULATION.
AND OFTENTIMES THAT DEBRIS ACCUMULATION WILL THEN TURN INTO
THE ILLEGAL DUMPING ISSUE BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO
TAKE THEIR LARGE ITEMS TO THE DUMP AND PAY THOSE FEES OR PAY
THE SPECIAL PICKUP FEES.
IT IS OUR HYPOTHESIS THAT BY MITIGATING THIS AT THE SOURCE,
BY DOING MULTIPLE SWEEPS, OUR THOUGHTS ARE -- QUARTERLY --
AND COUPLING THAT WITH EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT.
I'LL TOUCH MORE ON THE ENGAGEMENT MODEL WHEN WE GET TO THE
LAST POINT, BUT THIS IS REALLY RESIDENT LED ENGAGEMENT AND

STEWARDSHIP OF THE COMMUNITY.
TO THE SECOND POINT, THE 60K TOWARD SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH
ACCELERATION, THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON HELPING SMALL
BUSINESSES LEVEL UP.
FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGHOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT, WE KNOW THAT THERE
ARE A LOT OF INFORMAL BUSINESSES IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, SO THIS
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CAN HELP THOSE BUSINESSES FORMALIZE OR
IF THE BUSINESSES ARE ALREADY FORMALIZED, MAYBE THEY WANT TO
MOVE INTO A STOREFRONT.
THIS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CAN HELP THEM DO THAT, AND THAT
WOULD DUALLY SUPPORT ADDRESSING COMMERCIAL VACANCY WHICH WE
KNOW IS A LARGE ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
TO THE LAST POINT, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUESTS DIRECTLY
NOTED IN THE LETTER FROM THE ACTION LEAGUE THAT WE WERE ABLE
TO DIRECTLY SUPPORT.
AND THIS IS ALL ABOUT HAVING THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN
DOING CONTINUE.
AND THAT ENGAGEMENT MODEL DOES INVOLVE EMPLOYING RESIDENTS
TO DO THE OUTREACH AND DO THE COALITION BUILDING.
FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH THAT PHILANTHROPIC FUNDING THAT WE HAVE
THROUGH RESILIENT CITIES CATALYST, WE HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT
CONSULTANT OR RATHER RCC HAS AN ENGAGEMENT CONSULTANT THAT
IS ALREADY DOING THIS WORK.
WORKING WITH THE PARENT TEACHER ASSOCIATION AT SULPHUR
SPRINGS K-8, PAYING A STEWARD OF THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES IN

THE COMMUNITY, WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY, KIDS GO TO THE
SCHOOL, TO DO SURVEYS FOR THE PARENTS AND LEARN MORE ABOUT
WHAT NEEDS THERE ARE FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND HOW WE
CAN BETTER SERVE THOSE NEEDS.
THIS 20K WILL WORK TOWARDS CONTINUING TO FUND THAT WORK, AND
THE 70K IS PART OF THE SWEEPS, PART OF THAT IS THAT
ENGAGEMENT.
SO 20K IS KIND OF LIKE THE GENERAL BUT ALSO I WANT TO NOTE
THAT PART OF THE 70K IS ENVISIONED TO BE THAT KIND OF
DOOR-TO-DOOR OUTREACH TO REALLY EDUCATE PEOPLE ON, HEY, THIS
DAY IS COMING UP, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
HERE IS HOW WE CAN HELP YOU CLEAN UP YOUR PROPERTY AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS IN THE
TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP TO WORK TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT
PRIORITIES OF THE PLAN AND PRIORITIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN
THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 REQUEST.
AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, WE ARE PRETTY EARLY ON IN THE BUDGET
SEASON, AND SO WE HAVE JUST BEEN WORKING WITH THESE
DEPARTMENTS TO PARTNER AND SUPPORT THE VISION OF THE PLAN IN
WHICHEVER WAY WE CAN.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THOSE EASY WINS,
THINGS THAT ALREADY HAD FUNDING.
SO THINGS LIKE UTILIZING THE ART TRUST FUND OR SUPPORTING
PARKS AND ALREADY $3 MILLION ALLOCATED TOWARD PARKS

IMPROVEMENTS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
CITY PLANNING, ME AND MY TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
EASY ONES ARE BEING ACCOMPLISHED IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND ALSO
BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE COMMUNITY.
I HAVE A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER THAT I SEND OUT TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND I MAKE SURE TO LET THEM KNOW EVENTS THAT
ARE COMING UP, CITY COUNCIL COMING UP, AND THE WORK THAT
WE'RE DOING MONTH TO MONTH.
SO, NEXT STEPS, I BELIEVE THAT THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION WAS
PASSED THIS MORNING.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE TECHNICAL WORKING
GROUP DEVELOPING THOSE FISCAL YEAR '27 PROJECTS AND
PROGRAMS.
I HAVE WITH ME HERE TODAY MOBILITY, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY,
AND MS. FEELEY CAN ALSO TALK TO HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT IF NECESSARY IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS RELATED TO
THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
4:09:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL DROP MY TWO CENTS AND THEN BE DONE.
THE SWEEP PROGRAM I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.
TWO THUMBS UP.
GOOD FIRST STEP.
4:09:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL LET COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG GO.
4:09:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE VIERA, TOO.

4:09:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M NOT.
4:09:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE MANISCALCO.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, GO AHEAD.
4:09:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WORKED ON THIS PROJECT IN PHASE ONE DURING THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT AND TO SEE WHERE IT HAS COME NOW AND TO BE ON
THIS SIDE OF THE PROJECT IS VERY FULL CIRCLE.
I'M REALLY EXCITED JUST TO SEE ALL THE PROGRESS THAT HAS
BEEN MADE.
I THINK HAVING ACTION ITEMS AND STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD IS KEY
SO IT DOESN'T BECOME SOMETHING THAT WE JUST TALK ABOUT.
WE'RE PUTTING MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTHS ARE AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO SULPHUR SPRINGS, WHICH I THINK
IS WELL DESERVED AND SO NEEDED.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
THE BIRD STREET DESIGN CHARRETTE, IS THAT A PROJECT THAT IS
A COMPLETE STREET PROJECT THAT IS HAPPENING?
OR IS IT GOING TO?
4:10:37PM >> SO THE DESIGN, YES, ALREADY HAPPENED.
WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE FINAL LIKE DIGITAL FILES AND THEN
ADAM, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AT THAT POINT, WE
WOULD THEN LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE QUICK BUILD OPPORTUNITIES OF
THIS DESIGN, HOW MUCH FUNDING DO WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN THE
EXISTING VISION ZERO QUICK BUILD FUND AND THEN WHAT ARE THE
LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS AND KIND OF HOW THOSE CAN GET

PROGRAMMED INTO THE FUTURE.
4:11:09PM >> RIGHT, EXACTLY.
ADAM PURCELL, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES DIRECTOR WITH
MOBILITY.
WE HAD A THREE-DAY WORKSHOP WITH A CONSULTANT THAT CAME IN
AS PART OF THIS EFFORT THAT HELPED THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
WORK THROUGH BIRD STREET.
BIRD STREET CONNECTS FLORIDA AND NEBRASKA UNDER THE
INTERSTATE.
THE INTERSTATE REALLY DIVIDES THIS COMMUNITY AND IT SERVES
AS A BARRIER TO MOVEMENT.
SO WE THOUGHT BIRD STREET WAS CRITICAL IN IMPROVING THE
BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION PARTICULARLY, UNDER THE
INTERSTATE, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE FREELY WITHIN THE
COMMUNITY.
WE WORKED THROUGH THAT CHARRETTE.
THEY ARE WORKING ON A DESIGN CONCEPT RIGHT NOW.
WE ASK THE CONSULTANT TO GIVE US NEAR TERM DESIGN SOLUTIONS
THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT AT LOW COST.
WHAT WE CALL QUICK-BUILD PROJECTS.
PAINT, DELINEATORS.
WITHOUT RECONSTRUCTING STORMWATER, WITHOUT RECONSTRUCTING
CURB, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT WORK, SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS PART
OF A REPAVING PROJECT.
WE HOPE TO GET THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, FEW WEEKS FROM

THE CONSULTANT SO WE CAN START TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN PROGRAM
IT.
WE HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDING IN THE NEXT FY FOR QUICK BUILD
PROGRAM.
DEPENDING ON WHAT COMES BACK FROM THIS DESIGN CHARRETTE AND
THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOME NEAR-TERM
IMPROVEMENTS ON BIRD.
WHAT WE ASKED THE CONSULTANT TO DO WAS NOT JUST THE NEAR
TERM BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE LONG TERM.
IF WE CAN PROGRAM OR SEEK FEDERAL FUNDS FOR A LARGER CAPITAL
PROJECT TO MAKE THAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENT MORE PERMANENT,
THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO EVALUATE AS WELL.
WE KNOW THERE IS A SHORT-TERM NEED AND LONG-TERM NEED, BUT
WHAT WE EXPECT TO IMPLEMENT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IS LIKE A
QUICK BUILD PROJECT ON BIRD STREET.
4:12:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT IS VERY AWESOME.
THANK YOU, ADAM.
I ALSO REALLY LOVE EMPLOYING THE RESIDENTS TO DO THE WORK.
I THINK THAT IS AN AWESOME CONCEPT.
ONE, I THINK YOU HAVE THIS SENSE OF OWNERSHIP OVER YOUR
COMMUNITY AND OVER YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO
SEE IT FLOURISH, SO I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING VERY THOROUGH.
4:13:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BY

MANISCALCO.
4:13:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE.
I THINK THIS IS FABULOUS.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S A PROJECT KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO MY
HEART, WE REACHED OUT TO PARKS TO FIND OUT PART OF THAT 3
MILLION.
I DO WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE
LISTENING AND TO THE REST OF COUNCIL.
THE RIVER TOWER PARK UPDATE, I GOT THE MONEY JUST FOR A
LOOP.
WE REACHED OUT AND IT'S EXPANDED IN SCOPE WITHOUT ME
REALIZING IT.
IT'S VERY EXCITING.
WE'LL HAVE A CIRCULAR PATH, IMPROVED PARKING, BENCHES,
PICNIC SHELTERS, WHICH IS REALLY COOL AND THAT WAS NOT ON MY
LIST, BUT I LOVE IT.
I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.
THE PATH THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE BOARDWALK THAT GOES UNDER
275 AND ONCE I LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT WAS KIND OF ON
ME.
THEY WERE LIKE, THIS ISN'T SAFE.
MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE STAYED QUIET.
WHO KNOWS.
EITHER WAY, BOTH OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE REPAIRED, AND
BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE

PERMANENT TOGETHER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE ON THE RIVER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE
HAVE TO GET EPC APPROVAL AND THEY SAID THAT IS LIKE SIX
MONTHS.
THE GOAL IS TO GET IT STARTED IN JANUARY, IS THAT RIGHT
SHOVELING IN JANUARY.
WE'LL SEE.
I HAVE LIKE FINGERS CROSSED THAT MAYBE IT WILL GO THROUGH
FASTER.
WHO KNOWS.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HARM THE
RIVER'S EDGE.
ALSO, I GOT AN UPDATE ON THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL BECAUSE
THAT'S EVERYBODY'S OTHER FAVORITE.
IT SAYS THE POOL DECK, BORING AND SOIL SAMPLE COLLECTION
COMPLETED.
SAMPLES HAVE BEEN SENT OUT TO TEST TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF
THE POOL SINKING.
SEAWALL PERMITTING IS COMPLETE AND SEAWALL IS CURRENTLY
UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
BUT ONCE THE RESULTS COME BACK TO THE LAB, WE'LL HAVE MORE
INFORMATION.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MOBILITY IN CONNECTION WITH THAT,
BECAUSE WITH THE BIRD STREET, WHEN WE FIRST BIKED THE NEW
GREEN ARTERY, WE USED BIRD STREET, AND THAT WAS REALLY

SCARY.
THE SECOND TIME I DID IT, I TOOK EVERYBODY THROUGH THE PARK,
AND THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BOARDWALK.
SO THERE DEFINITELY WILL BE MORE CONNECTIONS.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, BIRD IS A REALLY UNDERUTILIZED STREET.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE FOUR TO FIVE LANES ANYMORE.
I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A DOUBLE PROTECTED BIKEWAY
MIGHT BE THERE.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE DO NEED TO CONNECT THOSE TWO.
ALSO, ONCE IT GETS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BIRD STREET, THEY
SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THAT'S A REAL BIG STREET THAT
PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO UP AND DOWN AND AROUND.
IT'S IMPORTANT -- ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE BECAUSE THIS IS HOW
EVERYTHING CONNECTS TOGETHER.
4:15:56PM >> YEAH, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THIS UP ON THE WOLF REAL
QUICK TO SHOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMPLETE STREET
IMPROVEMENTS INSTALLED ON BIRD STREET THROUGH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND, IN FACT, WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT AND
WE WERE HEARING HOW BAD THESE SPEED BUMPS WERE, WHICH HAVE
NOW BEEN REDONE, WE WERE HEARING PRAISE ABOUT THE SPEED
TABLES ON BIRD STREET, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THERE ARE STILL
IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE.
TO MAKE THE STREET SAFER, WE'RE ALL EARS.
WE'RE DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF AGAIN THE

COMPLETE STREET CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIORITY
ACTION AREAS OF OUR PLAN.
4:16:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOING ALONG WITH THAT, BIRD IS ALSO A MAJOR
CAR THOROUGHFARE.
I DON'T WANT BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS ON THE CAR THOROUGHFARES
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
REALLY LOOKING AT THE PARALLEL STREETS AND LOOKING AT THOSE
AS THE BIKE BOULEVARD AREAS THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE
MULTI-MOBILITY TO GO DOWN.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
4:17:00PM >> YEAH, WE HAVEN'T STARTED TO LOOK AT OTHER ROADWAYS WITHIN
SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR COMPLETE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS.
THE TRAFFIC CALMING EXERCISE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FIVE
YEARS.
YOU CAN SEE EVERY RED POINT HERE IS WHERE THEY CAME IN AND
PUT AN ALL-WAYS STOP.
THERE WAS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS.
THEY CAME IN AND IMPLEMENTED FOUR-WAY STOPS.
THAT IS AN INEXPENSIVE WAY TO SLOW TRAFFIC IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY PUT SPEED TABLES AND SPEED CUSHIONS.
BLUE DOTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, LOCATIONS WHERE TRAFFIC
CALMING, SPEED HUMPS OR CUSHIONS WERE INSTALLED.
ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS

IS OUR SIDEWALK PRIORITIES.
SO WE HAVE A TOP 50 PRIORITY LIST.
OUR PRIORITY SIDEWALKS KIND OF FLANK THE K-8 SCHOOL THERE.
RIGHT NOW IT IS A K-8.
I KNOW WE HAVE A PENDING MEMO TO DO AN EVALUATION TO THE
MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WILL BE SHIFTED.
WE ALREADY TALKED TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS ON THAT.
THEY ARE GOING TO BUS EVERY MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT THAT IS
SHIFTED TO A NEW SCHOOL.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE
THINGS WE'RE GETTING BACK IS AS THOSE OLDER CHILDREN GO TO
OTHER SCHOOLS, THE YOUNGER CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO WALK TO K-6
SCHOOL BY THEMSELVES.
OR K-5 SCHOOL BY THEMSELVES.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SIDEWALK INVESTMENT NEAR
THE SCHOOL.
AND THEN THE ROWLETT PARK PIECE, IT IS A BRIDGE WITH A
NARROW SIDEWALK.
WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTIONS THROUGH A 2023 SS4A PROJECT THAT
WE'RE WAITING ON FEDERAL HIGHWAY TO FINALIZE THE GRANT
AGREEMENT ON.
THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF ANOTHER SAFETY IMPROVEMENT WITH
FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE HAVEN'T STARTED LOOKING TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S A GOOD NOTE.

I'LL TAKE THAT BACK, BUT SHIFTING -- WE TRIED TO SLOW THE
TRAFFIC ON BIRD, BUT POTENTIALLY SHIFTING IT TO OTHER
CORRIDORS IS AN OPTION AS WELL.
4:18:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, GLAD YOU
BROUGHT THE SIDEWALKS UP BECAUSE THAT WAS ON MY LIST, TOO.
AS YOU GO UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO GET TO THE OTHER
SIDE, THAT'S ALSO A VERY NARROW CORRIDOR.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO AGAIN DON'T USE CARS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL AN ACTIVE RAIL LINE.
4:19:18PM >> IT IS.
4:19:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS.
SO LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE SAFELY UNDER THAT
RAILROAD TRESTLE OR AMONGST OTHER THINGS.
I KNOW THAT THE GREEN ARTERY TRAIL IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT
AGAIN.
NOW THAT WE'VE CLOSED THE STREET OR RATHER -- THERE IS A
PART OF ROGERS PARK GOLF COURSE THAT WAS A RAIL SPUR THAT I
KNOW WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR MULTIMODAL AS WELL.
4:19:48PM >> RIGHT, WE CONSTRUCTED SEGMENTS D AND E.
THE BLUE AND PINK SEGMENTS OF THE GREEN ARTERY HAVE BEEN
CONSTRUCTED.
WE TALKED ABOUT RIVER TOWER PARK AND HOW THAT TRAIL WILL
CONNECT THE MIDDLE PIECE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IN MOBILITY NOW IS WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR

VISION ZERO ENGINEER AND VISION ZERO PLANNER TO GO THROUGH
THE REMAINING SEGMENTS OF THE GREEN ARTERY AND BEGIN TO GET
CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR THOSE AND BEGIN TO GET PLANNING LEVEL
COST ESTIMATES.
WE HAVE FUNDING IN FY '28 AND '29 THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE
USED TO SUPPORT THE GREEN ARTERY.
RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TARGETING FOR FUNDING.
COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS TO IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL SEGMENTS OF
THE GREEN ARTERY.
4:20:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT YOU GOT TO TAKE THAT OFF OF SLIGH.
THAT IS A VERY SCARY AND DANGEROUS PLACE TO RIDE A BIKE.
I KNOW BECAUSE I DO IT.
SLIGH AVENUE.
THAT IS SCARY AND DANGEROUS.
4:20:41PM >> SLIGH IS PART OF A 2022 SS4A GRANT THAT WE HOPE TO
IMPROVE THE CONDITION ON SLIGH AS WELL.
4:20:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT. THANK YOU.
4:20:49PM >> I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES
INSTITUTE WORKING GROUP ON ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, ALONG WITH
ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS ON THIS PLAN.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO TRAVEL AND LEARN FROM PEER COMMUNITIES
AND PRESENT SULPHUR SPRINGS AS A CASE STUDY BECAUSE AS WE
CAN SEE BETWEEN THE RAILROAD, THE HIGHWAY, AND THE STATE
ROADWAYS, THERE ARE SO MANY TRANSPORTATION CREATED

CONSTRAINTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE ARE TAKING THOSE LESSONS LEARNED AND MOVING THEM
FORWARD IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES.
4:21:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:21:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL PASS.
THANK YOU.
4:21:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE'RE GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM, MS. FEELEY.
4:21:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ON BEFORE LAUREN LEAVES.
ABBYE FEELEY ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
OPPORTUNITY.
THE CONVERSATION AROUND BIRD STREET, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON
THAT AS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CORRIDORS WE'RE STUDYING.
THAT IS WHERE THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS WILL MEET THE VERTICAL
CONSTRUCTION AND WE WILL START TO CREATE THAT PLACE THAT WE
REALLY ARE LOOKING TO.
ALSO, LAUREN IS PARTICIPATING IN A HART CORRIDOR STUDY.
4:22:04PM >> YES, TOD PHASE TWO THAT IS FOCUSING ON THE NORTHERN
SECTION OF THE PROPOSED HART BRT ROUTE.
WE ARE LEVERAGING WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THIS PLAN AND MOVING

THAT FORWARD IN THAT PLAN.
4:22:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
AS ALL THESE EFFORTS COME TOGETHER, THEY
REALLY WILL START TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE'RE ENSURING AS
THEY LOOK AT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ADAM WAS
JUST TALKING ABOUT, THOSE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LAND
AND THAT THIS ALL GOES BACK TO THE ACTION PLAN AND THAT ALL
OF THOSE THINGS ARE COGNIZANT OF ONE ANOTHER.
4:22:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. FEELEY, YOU PROMISED ME THIS WOULD BE
SHORT.
4:22:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SO SHORT.
ABBYE FEELEY.
QUICK UPDATE ON THE LDC.
MANY OF YOU, IF YOU'RE ALREADY REGISTERED FOR TAMPA FORWARD,
WE HAD A NEWSLETTER THAT WENT OUT TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE COMMITTED TO WITH YOU, ALONG THIS
PROCESS IS NUMBER ONE, COME AND TALK TO YOU, BE HERE, BE
PRESENT, KEEP YOU ENGAGED IN WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE WE'RE
AT.
BUT ANOTHER THING WE LEARNED IS THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN UPDATE IS KEEPING THE PUBLIC ENGAGED THROUGH THE
PROCESS SO THAT WE'RE NOT COMING INTO YOU ON THAT FIRST
ADOPTION HEARING OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SEEING THAT
WE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE PUBLIC OUTREACH.
WE JUST SET UP FOUR UPCOMING MEETINGS THAT MYSELF AND ERIC
COTTON FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION WILL BE GOING OUT.

WE DID A NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE HELD AT THESE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND
WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO GET THOSE -- WE GOT THE
LOCATIONS AND TIMES SET UP AND JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE
GETTING THAT WORD OUT.
THIS WILL ALSO BE GOING ON THE DOWNTOWN IKE KIOSKS.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING IT UP ON THE DIGITAL BOARD AT
HANNA.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING IT OUT ON SOME OTHER SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS TO CREATE THAT ENGAGEMENT FOR THESE UPCOMING
PUBLIC MEETINGS.
IN ADDITION TO THESE FOUR, WE WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING ON THE
THAN JUNE 10th MEETING, THAT IS A VIRTUAL MEETING.
THAT WOULD BE FIVE TOTAL MEETINGS, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT
DOING THESE WHEN WE DO INSTALLMENT TWO AND THEN WHEN WE DO
INSTALLMENT THREE.
AS YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING IN THREE INSTALLMENTS.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE FOCUSED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IS
ON CONTINUED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
I THINK THE SURVEY INSTRUMENT OUT ON THE WEBSITE WAS CLOSED,
BUT IT IS GOING TO BE REOPENED IN CONCERT WITH THESE GOING
OUT.
ALSO, ANYONE OUT THERE CAN E-MAIL TAMPA FORWARD, AND THOSE
COMMENTS COME RIGHT INTO US AND WE WORK WITH JEFF AND THE
CLARION TEAM TO ENSURE THAT THOSE COMMENTS ARE BEING

INTEGRATED AS WELL.
4:24:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:24:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
THIS IS GREAT.
I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING SOME SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS WITH --
I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY,
BUT ALSO WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WITH SOME OF OUR,
LIKE, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOLKS.
AND SO ANYTHING YOU HAVE, ANY CONNECTIONS YOU HAVE, THEY
HAVE BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A MEETING
THAT MIGHT FOCUS MORE ON COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THIS IS ALL
SEEMS TO BE FOCUSED AROUND RESIDENTIAL.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR NEIGHBORS IS
THEY WANT COMMERCIAL SPACES, BUT I THINK OFTENTIMES THEY
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
LIKE, IF YOU WANT COMMERCIAL, HOW DO YOU GET IT?
AND HOW IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CONNECT WITH THAT?
ALSO JUST TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED OR MAYBE THEY
SEE SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY WORK IN THE COMMERCIAL SPACE ALL
DAY THAT WE DON'T.
4:25:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WE CAN DO THAT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN GET INVOLVED
WITH THAT WAY.

NO PROBLEM.
4:26:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANKS.
4:26:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND EVERYTHING YOU DO.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM.
REGULAR BUSINESS IS DONE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, NEW BUSINESS.
4:26:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL STORIES RECENTLY
ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARTICULAR CASE -- BUT
SEVERAL STORIES ABOUT THE CULTURE OF THE CITY AND THE WORD
RETALIATION HAS BEEN CIRCULATED.
A YEAR OR SO AGO I MADE A MOTION AND YOU ALL SUPPORTED TO
HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT PROTECTING WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID WE WERE LIMITED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT I OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAD A LOT OF CALLS FROM
CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES WHO IN PARTICULAR ARE WORRIED
ABOUT RETALIATION FROM PEOPLE INSIDE THE ADMINISTRATION.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES
WOULD LIKE US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND SINCE WE HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY THAT WE
INVITE THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT.
I PICKED JUNE 4, BUT MOTION TO ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO
RETURN ON JUNE 4 TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL AND EMPLOYEES THROUGH
THE TV ABOUT HOW THE ADMINISTRATION WILL PROTECT EMPLOYEES
FROM RETALIATION.

4:27:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
4:27:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING?
4:27:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SURE.
4:27:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALTHOUGH IT'S FLATTERING THAT FOLKS IN THE
COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT LIKE COPYING THINGS THAT I POST
ONLINE AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, THEY ARE PAID A LOT OF
MONEY AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH THEIR OWN IDEAS.
I SUGGEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COME UP AND THE
COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT COME UP WITH SOME ORIGINAL IDEAS.
ALSO, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
OVERUSED LIKE GENERATIONAL.
EVERYTHING CAN'T BE A GENERATIONAL OR TRANSFORMATIONAL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS
GETTING THROUGH, BUT SOME OF THAT SEEMS TIRED.
IN SCHOOL, IF YOU PLAGIARIZED, YOU GET AN F.
IF WE SEE PLAGIARIZATION FROM CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN BE
FLATTERED OR, HEY, YOU GUYS ARE GETTING PAID A LOT, YOU CAN
DO YOUR OWN WORK.
4:28:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:28:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ONE THREE-MINUTE ONE.

I WANT TO MOTION ON JULY 16, MANY OF US KNOW PORTICO HOUSING
SOLUTIONS, WE FUNDED THEM, THEIR EFFORTS.
AND I WANT PASTOR JUSTIN LAROSA TO COME AND TALK FIVE
MINUTES ABOUT THE GOOD WORK THAT HE DOES.
ALSO INVITE A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF TAP.
A LOCAL ARTIST, REALLY NICE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES IN THAT
HOUSING.
4:28:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A CONFLICT.
WE ALREADY HAVE POLICE OF THE MONTH.
I HAVE PSTA IS REQUESTING US ON THAT DAY, TOO.
4:29:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT IS THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE HERE?
4:29:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY ONE PRESENTATION ON THE 30th OF
JULY.
4:29:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT AUGUST 27?
4:29:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WORKS.
4:29:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S MY MOTION.
4:29:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED.
4:29:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
NEXT, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, I SENT OUT A MOTION ON THIS
REGARDING THE APPARENT -- IN NEW TAMPA, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT
OF CHATTER ONLINE AND WE'RE GETTING E-MAILS, AT LEAST I'M
GETTING E-MAILS AND EVERYTHING ON THE APPARENT TRANSFER OR
PROSPECTIVE TRANSFER OF AN ASSET THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE --
I THINK FIRE STATION 23, IF WHAT I'M HEARING IS CORRECT.

AGAIN, A LOT OF VAGUENESS OUT THERE AND HEARING A LOT OF IT
FROM NEW TAMPA.
I ALWAYS OPERATE FROM THE PRESUMPTION THAT IF YOU ARE IN
DISTRICT 7, YOU HAVE ALWAYS GOT TO YELL A LITTLE BIT LOUDER,
BANG A LITTLE BIT HARDER WHENEVER IT COMES TO THINGS IN YOUR
DISTRICT.
I DEALT WITH THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I SUGGEST.
AND I THINK THAT THE SITUATION WITH FIRE RESPONSE TIMES OVER
MY TEN YEARS, THE LAST THREE STATIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN HAVE
BEEN FOR DISTRICT SEVEN AREA.
ONE JUST OUTSIDE AT LEAST NORTH IN NEW TAMPA.
I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR A LONG TIME ON RESPONSE TIMES IN
K-BAR RANCH IN PARTICULAR WHERE WE DO HAVE A CHALLENGE
THERE.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE BELIEF AS HAS BEEN STATED IN THE
PAST, BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, SHOULD BE A FIRE STATION
DEDICATED IN K-BAR RANCH.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER COMPROMISES.
WE TALK ABOUT THE CUT-THRU, WHICH I DON'T THINK WILL BE
COMING FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR, IF WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING
IS RIGHT, BUT WE ARE HERE.
LIKE I INDICATED IN MY MEMO, I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF
POTENTIAL ASSET TRANSFER FROM NEW TAMPA THAT HAS MANY PEOPLE
CONCERNED.
THEY LIVE OUT THE RESPONSE TIMES EVERY DAY AND HEAR WHAT

THEIR NEIGHBORS TALK ABOUT PARTICULARLY IN K-BAR RANCH.
I WANT A CLEAR BRIEFING ON A POSITION STATEMENT ON WHAT IS
HAPPENING AND WHAT IS GOING ON.
NEW TAMPA COMMUNITY IS TO RECEIVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF
THE PLAN OF OPERATION, OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, SHORTEN
LONG-TERM PLANS TO ADDRESS RESPONSE PLANS IN 33647 AND HOW
THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE WOULD AFFECT IT.
MY MOTION IS ON JUNE -- STRIKE THAT, MAY 21st, TO HAVE
BOTH A REPRESENTATIVE OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM INTERNATIONAL LOCAL 754 TO COME AND
PROVIDE A BRIEFING REGARDING RESPONSE TIMES AND FIRE RESCUE
COVERAGE IN NEW TAMPA AND A 33647 AREA.
SULING, I'LL GET YOU THIS MEMO WITH PARTICULAR ATTENTION
GIVEN TO K-BAR RANCH.
THIS INCLUDES POTENTIAL DEPLOYMENT, CHANGE, ASSET RELOCATION
INVOLVING NEW TAMPA RESOURCES THAT AGAIN HAS GENERATED A LOT
OF CONCERN IN THE AREA.
I DO WANT TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY ON THAT.
I ALWAYS SAY THAT -- I ALWAYS JOKE THAT I HAVE A CHIP ON MY
SHOULDER ABOUT NEW TAMPA.
IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY THIS.
UNDER MAYOR CASTOR, WE'VE HAD GREAT, GREAT STRIDES ON A LOT
OF THINGS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, DIFFERENT CHALLENGES
THAT WE'VE HAD, INCLUDING MOBILITY IN NEW TAMPA, BUT I
LISTEN TO THE STATE OF THE CITY AND THERE WASN'T A MENTION

OF NEW TAMPA, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR
THIS ADMINISTRATION TO TALK TO SOME OF ITS SUCCESSES.
PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT NOTICED THAT.
I WANT TO BUILD ON THE SUCCESSES WITH THIS REPORT.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
4:32:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
MAY 21st, WE HAVE REVENUE AND FINANCE ON THE MIDYEAR
REVIEW.
WE HAVE THE LARGE DIGITAL SIGNS.
IT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY -- WE'VE ALREADY GOT THREE
PRESENTATIONS THAT DAY.
COULD YOU DO A WRITTEN REPORT?
4:32:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
UNFORTUNATELY, NO.
LOOK, WE HAVE RULES ON NUMBER OF REPORTS THAT WE CAN HAVE.
I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEW
TAMPA OVER THIS.
BY THE WAY, THERE IS A CHANCE IF THIS GETS RESOLVED BEFORE
AND WE FIND OUT WHAT IT IS, I WITHDRAW IT, RIGHT.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING VERY, VERY PRESSING THAT I'M GETTING A
LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM NEW TAMPA ON, AND FOR ME, TIME IS OF
THE ESSENCE ON THIS.
BY THE WAY, WE CAN LIMIT TIME ON THIS, IF THAT IS A
CHALLENGE, TO 15 MINUTES FROM BEGINNING TO END.
4:33:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL SECOND.
WITH THE TIME LIMITATION OF 15 MINUTES.

MAY 21st.
THEN WE CLOSE THAT AGENDA TO NO MORE COMMENDATIONS, NO MORE
STAFF REPORTS.
4:33:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
4:33:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR AS STATED HIS REQUEST
FOR REPORT NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES AND A CLOSED AGENDA AFTER
THAT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
4:34:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
4:34:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
4:34:05PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE TWO MOTIONS AND THEN JUST A BRIEF COMMUNITY NOTE.
I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS
FOR AN HONOREE BUILDING NAMED IN THE HONOR OF THE LATE MR.
FRANK A. REDDICK AND COME BACK AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL ON
JUNE 18, 2026.
THE BUILDING IS LOCATED AT WILLIAMS PARK COMPLEX, 4362 EAST
OSBORNE AVENUE.
PLEASURE TO MAKE THIS MOTION IN HONOR OF MR. REDDICK'S
LEGACY, DEDICATION, SERVICE, AND HIS CONSISTENT COMMITMENT
TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF THOSE IN THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
I HAVE COMPLIED WITH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE

NUMBER 7.
4:34:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
4:34:52PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE
APPLICATION RIGHT, EVERYTHING.
I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SECOND, I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION ON
JUNE 18, 2026, TO THE LADIES OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY
INCORPORATED RECOGNIZING THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND
POLITICAL AWARENESS ON DELTA DAY AT CITY HALL.
4:35:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS OPEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
4:35:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MY LOVELY LEGISLATIVE AIDE IS A MEMBER OF THE
DELTA SIGMA THETA SOCIETY.
AND ALSO MY PREDECESSOR, MS. GWEN HENDERSON AS WELL.
VERY EXCITED.
ALSO JUST SOME COMMUNITY NOTES.

I'M ALWAYS EVERYWHERE.
IF YOU HAVE NOT VISITED, IF YOU LIVE IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA
ON 30th, TGH COMMUNITY GARDEN IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THEY HAVE -- IT'S REALLY AWESOME.
THEY HAVE CLASSES THERE FOR STUDENTS.
THERE IS A FOOD PHARMACY.
A PROGRAM THAT THEY WORK WITH THE DOCTORS AT TGH.
IT IS REALLY, REALLY AWESOME.
WE GOT TO GO AND TOUR.
I ADVISE ANYONE, IF YOU ARE IN THE AREA, TO PLEASE GO AND
VISIT.
WE ALSO HAD THE JUST ELEMENTARY AND STUART MIDDLE SCHOOL
GROUND BREAKING.
THERE'S ALSO THE LAUNCH OF THE TAMPA TREASURE HUNT WAS AT
RIVER FEST THIS WEEKEND.
IF YOU GO TO TAMPA TREASURE HUNT, IT'S A WAY JUST FOR
FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY TO GET OUT, WALK, BIKE, TAKE THE
STREETCAR TO THE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TREASURE
BOXES IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEY HAVE TREATS IN THEM.
COOL WAY TO GET THE KIDS OUT.
SOMETHING TO DO FOR SUMMER.
I WAS ALSO KEYNOTE SPEAKER FOR THE DELTA SIGMA THETA
SORORITY SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.
OVER $68,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS TO SOME AWESOME, AWESOME
STUDENTS.

I WAS LISTENING TO THEIR BIOS AND GOING TO SCHOOL FOR, WE'RE
GOING TO BE OKAY, BECAUSE THEY WERE AWESOME.
ALSO, THE RIDGEWOOD COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY
JUST KIND OF REVIVED.
WE HAD THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AT ARMATURE
WORKS.
IT WAS AWESOME.
ALSO, I GOT TO TOUR THE TAMPA FAMILY HEALTH CENTER AND THEY
HAVE SOME REALLY AMAZING PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE DOING AT
TAMPA FAMILY HEALTH THAT IF YOU ARE A COMMUNITY MEMBER,
PLEASE LOOK INTO IT, RESEARCH, TAKE ADVANTAGE.
THAT'S IT.
4:37:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REALLY GOOD SERVICES.
4:37:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S NOT A MOTION, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG SAID ON
GWENDOLYN HENDERSON, I DID WANTS TO NOTE, COMMUNITY TAMPA
BAY POSTHUMOUSLY AWARDED THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
SILVER MEDALLION AWARD.
I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FOR GWEN'S LEGACY AND MEMORY.
A LEGACY WELL DESERVED.
4:37:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:37:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR MENTIONING THE TREASURE BOXES.
WE'RE THINKING OF ONE OF MY EASY SUNDAY MORNING RIDES TO DO
THAT.
I'LL KEEP PEOPLE POSTED.

FIRST OF ALL, TO GO BACK ON WHAT I PULLED TODAY, ITEM 39,
I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT
EXPLAINING HOW MANY SPACES ARE LEFT IN HANNA AVENUE BUILDING
THAT ARE NOT BEING USED AND THAT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
FUNDS FOR THE BUILD-OUT BY JUNE 4.
4:38:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
4:38:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I WANTED TO JUST FLOAT THIS IDEA BY YOU
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME TO US TO REALLY
TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION THAT THE GROUP SHOWED US THIS
MORNING ABOUT ELECTRICAL RATES.
I KNOW IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A COUNCIL THING, BUT THIS IS
LITERALLY WHAT I HEAR ABOUT CONSTANTLY WHEN I'M GOING
THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
AT THIS POINT, MAYBE TAKING A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AND
HAVING OUR COUNCIL TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AND MAYBE
TALKING ABOUT IT DURING NEW BUSINESS OR RATHER OLD BUSINESS
OR WHATEVER.
YEAH, NEXT REGULAR MEETING, JUST TO SEE IF THIS IS EVEN
SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO.
IT'S SUCH A BIG ISSUE.
I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR LEGISLATORS TO DO

SOMETHING, OR AT LEAST SAY THAT WE ARE HEARING PEOPLE, WE
UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN ISSUE.
I KNOW WE CAN'T EFFECT IT, BUT I THINK THEIR STATEMENT TODAY
WAS -- MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR THEM IN A WAY THEY CANNOT.
4:39:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY IN GENERAL, WE CAN'T TALK
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IF FOLKS GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE
STORIES, THERE ARE MANY RESOLUTIONS THAT WE DID IN THE PAST
THAT WE TRIED TO DO THINGS AND THE LEGISLATURE WOULD DO THE
OPPOSITE OF IT.
AND THERE ARE A -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS WHERE PEOPLE GET BONUSES OR
INCENTIVIZE TO GET RESOLUTIONS AND CHECK THE BOX IN ALL
DIFFERENT PLACES.
WHATEVER THE SUBJECT IS, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY RESOLUTION
THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE, ACTUALLY GOING TO DO
THE OPPOSITE.
IF WE ASK TALLAHASSEE TO DO SOMETHING, THEY'LL PROBABLY DO
THE OPPOSITE OF IT.
4:40:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:40:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU DO THAT THEN -- I'VE GOT TO GO TO
ANOTHER MEETING.
I'LL SEE YOU GUYS.
4:40:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR HEART IS THERE.
WE TRY TO RESTRICT OUR ACTIVITIES.

OUR SCHEDULES ARE SO FULL AND SO BIG.
KIND OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO AS COUNCIL.
WHILE I APPRECIATE THE INTENT AND LIKE I SAY, WE ALL AGREE
WITH YOU, BUT I'M KIND OF ON THE SAME SIDE AS COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:40:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK WE CAN SOLVE ALL THOSE PROBLEMS
TO SOME DEGREE AND YOU CAN HELP NATURE.
DO A LOT OF THINGS.
THAT'S WHY I TURN IN MY ELECTRIC BILL EVERY MONTH.
THIS MONTH $16.39 I THINK IT WAS.
IF WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM, WITH THE
NEIGHBORS, WITH THE ORGANIZATION, PUT THEM ON, THE CITY OF
TAMPA ELECTRIC BILL GOING UP JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
HOWEVER OUR TOTAL COST OF THE YEAR WAS DOWN LIKE 3.5%
BECAUSE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEMS WE PUT IN.
THERE IS A PAY-OUT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT -- 19 YEARS.
MINE IS PAID OUT AT 7.5 YEARS.
IT'S TRUE I HAVE A HOUSE.
I DON'T HAVE A TEN BEDROOM HOUSE.
THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATH.
1500 SQUARE FEET.
INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER SOMEBODY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, HOW DO
WE GET MONEY AND SOLVE TWO PROBLEMS.

HELP NATURE AND HELP THE CITIZENS AT THE SAME TIME?
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS TO COME ABOUT AND TELL US WHAT TO
DO.
4:41:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USED TO HAVE PROGRAMS.
4:41:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
USED TO HAVE.
TOOK THEM OUT.
STILL OPPORTUNITIES COMING AND WE OUGHT TO START LOOKING AT
NOT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, HOW DO WE SAVE LONG TERM AND DO TWO
THINGS AT ONCE WITH ONE DOLLAR, NOT TWO DOLLARS.
4:42:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULDN'T BE AVERSE, AS WE LEARNED WITH THE
FLOODING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, MANAGING THIS IS VERY
DIFFICULT.
I'M BRINGING THIS UP, WHICH IS -- RATES ARE ONEROUS ON
PEOPLE AND SO FORTH, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE CRAs.
JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
4:42:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SOLAR THING.
YOU'LL BRING IT UP.
4:42:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO.
WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE AGAIN PEOPLE ARE IN A HELL OF AN
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS, WORKING CLASS, MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING
POOR AND SO FORTH IN TAMPA AND FLORIDA, AND EVERYTHING WE
CAN DO TO HELP THEM.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REMARKS AND SHE'S NOT EVEN ASKING FOR
A MOTION RIGHT NOW.

SHE'S JUST SAYING WHAT CAN WE DO ON THIS ISSUE AND I THINK
THAT'S NOT A BAD QUESTION WITH TAX DOLLARS.
4:42:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MIRANDA, I'M
WONDERING, CAN PART OF THE CONVERSATION BE, WE KNOW THERE
ARE A LOT OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING GUTTED.
CAN PART OF THE CONVERSATION BE IF THERE IS A SOLUTION OR
SOME KIND OF PROGRAM THAT COULD HELP PEOPLE HAVE MORE ACCESS
TO SOLAR OR SOME KIND OF SOMETHING.
ONE, I WANT TO COMMEND THE TWO YOUNG LADIES THAT CAME
BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEY ARE
SPEAKING OUT.
I HAVE TO APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT.
I RECOGNIZE THAT FROM THIS SEAT, WE CAN'T -- YOU KNOW, IT IS
KIND OF OUT OF OUR HANDS BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T JUST MAYBE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
AND JUST SEE WHAT IS THERE.
YOU BRING UP WITH THE CRAs.
WHAT IS THERE.
WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN'T DO.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN?
4:43:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE.
IT'S NOT EVEN SOLAR BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FOLKS I'M HEARING
FROM, BECAUSE I'VE GONE TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE
TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT'S THEY LIVE IN A RENTAL.
SO THEY CAN'T DO SOLAR.

BUT NOW, I MEAN, THEY ARE COMING UP WITH SOLAR PANELS THAT
YOU CAN HANG OFF OF BALCONIES AND ALL OF THIS STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT, AGAIN, I JUST KIND OF
SITTING ON OUR HANDS DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME.
I KNOW WE HAVE A RULE ABOUT IT, BUT SITTING ON THE HANDS
JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT WITH MY PART.
4:44:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE IN THE
LEGISLATURE, THEY HAVE A BIGGER HAND.
ANYBODY WANTS TO RUN FOR CONGRESS, THERE WE GO.
4:44:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT -- IS THIS
SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD OR NOT?
I HEARD TWO NOES, BUT DIDN'T HEAR ANY OTHER NOES, AND I
DIDN'T HEAR YESES.
OKAY, WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT AND COME BACK.
4:44:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:44:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TONYA WHO DOES
SO MUCH IN OUR OFFICE.
IT'S NOT TODAY, BUT I THINK --
4:45:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD SING HER HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUT I
DON'T THINK SHE WOULD LISTEN TO THIS.
4:45:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO ALL THE
SPECIAL MOMS IN MY LIFE.
I HAVE MY WIFE VALERIE, MY SISTER, MY MOM LISA, MY
LEGISLATIVE AIDE, MY TWO MOTHER-IN-LAWS, BECAUSE I HAVE A
STEP MOTHER-IN-LAW, AND SULING.

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY.
4:45:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I NEVER GOT A HAPPY FATHER'S DAY FROM
YOU.
4:45:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEAT THAT, MIRANDA.
4:45:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST DID.
ELECTRIC BILL CITY OF TAMPA IS A LITTLE OVER $70,000 A DAY.
I'D LOVE TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE LEGISLATURE, BUT HOW I
SOLVE IT?
I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO SOLVE IT.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
4:45:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME HAND THE GAVEL OVER HERE.
PSTA HAS REQUESTED TEN MINUTES TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE
STATUS OF THE FERRY AND THANK COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR THEIR
COMMITMENT AND SUPPORT.
MOTION TO ALLOW THE PSTA TO MAKE A TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION
UPDATE FERRY ON JULY 16, 2026.
4:46:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ISN'T THAT THE DAY THAT THEY PRESENT THE
BUDGET?
4:46:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TEN MINUTES IN THE MORNING.
WE ONLY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS.
4:46:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S NOT ON THE CALENDAR YET.
4:46:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE GO FOR FIVE.
4:46:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FIVE MINUTES?
4:46:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
4:46:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL ASK THEM TO DO FIVE MINUTES.

4:46:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WILL TURN INTO TEN.
4:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASK TO DO FIVE MINUTES.
4:46:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
4:46:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HENCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING WITH THE AGENDA, I
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND COUNCIL RULES TO
NO MORE THAN THREE VERBAL STAFF REPORTS PER AGENDA.
INSTEAD OF THE FIVE.
LEAVE WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, BUT IN ADDITION, LIMIT TO
THREE VERBAL.
4:47:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD REALLY RATHER LIMIT THE STUFF ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS MORE IN-DEPTH.
4:47:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF BEHIND-THE-SCENES
WORK FOR US.
4:47:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
119 ITEMS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
I COULDN'T READ EVERYTHING.
AND THAT'S THE BACKGROUND.
4:47:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M TRYING TO THESE LONG DRAWN-OUT
MEETING.
4:47:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS NOT A LONG, DRAWN-OUT MEETING.
WE GOT OUT OF HERE BY 5.
4:47:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BARELY.

WE ONLY HAD THREE STAFF REPORTS TODAY.
4:47:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
4:47:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO AMEND COUNCIL RULES TO NO MORE
THAN THREE VERBAL STAFF REPORTS PER MEETING.
4:47:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHICH MEANS WE ARE PUSHING THINGS FURTHER AND
FURTHER.
4:47:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, NOT VERBAL STAFF REPORTS.
YOU CAN HAVE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
4:47:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE WHOLE POINT IS PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR US, WE
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU WANT A STAFF REPORT, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE'RE ALL
DISCUSSING.
4:48:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY VERBAL STAFF
REPORTS.
WHY DON'T WE TRY THREE --
4:48:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT WE LIMIT TIME FOR REAL ON STAFF
REPORTS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE SOMETIMES, AND
MAYBE YOU CAN CONSIDER NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.
AND IF YOU GO OVER THAT --
4:48:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALREADY ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE --
4:48:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN I SAY ENFORCEMENT, I SAY I KNOW IT'S HARD
TO ENFORCE THAT.
ONCE YOU GO PAST 20 MINUTES, YOU NEED A SUPERMAJORITY TO GET
PAST IT SO IT'S NOT JUST ON THE CHAIRMAN.
JUST AN IDEA.

4:48:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
I THINK YOU SHOULD BRING THIS BACK.
4:48:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF REPORTS ALREADY LIMITED TO FIVE
MINUTES.
4:49:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T SUPPORT LIMITING STAFF REPORTS.
JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.
I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS GOOD.
I THINK WE NEED TO LIMIT --
FOR ME, THE CONSENT STUFF IS WHAT'S -- THAT'S JUST REALLY
OVERWHELMING.
4:49:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SAW AN ANALYSIS OF THE CONSENT BECAUSE I
PUSH BACK ON THE AGENDA.
THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE REALLY JUST THE BASIC
FUNCTIONS OF THE CITY.
IF WE PARSED OUT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD DELAY OR
NOT.
4:49:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ISSUE IS, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH 20 -- I
MEAN, I HAD OVER 24 QUESTIONS ON MY PREP MEETING AND I
DIDN'T GET HALF OF THEM ANSWERED.
I'M RUNNING BACK AND FORTH ON WEDNESDAY TRYING TO GET MY
ANSWERS.
IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO TAKE IN.
4:49:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M NOT HEARING ANY SUPPORT FOR LIMITING
IT, BUT I'M GOING TO START ENFORCING THE FIVE MINUTES
BECAUSE THAT IS A RULE.

I'LL RECOGNIZE OUR WONDERFUL BUDGET ANALYST BECAUSE SHE
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE MINUTE OF DISCUSSION.
4:50:07PM >> HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
LITTLE BIT TIMELY HERE.
I THINK, I HOPE MOST OF YOU SAW AN E-MAIL I SENT THROUGH.
TODAY IS A LONG DAY, YOU MAY NOT HAVE.
BASICALLY THE SYNOPSIS WAS THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO STRIVE
TO HIT THE GMP TIMING FOR JUNE FOR THE FIRE STATION 24, AND
IN PARTICIPATING IN A PROJECT MEETING LAST WEEK, I REALIZED
THAT THE UNDERLYING INFRASTRUCTURE, I.E., ELECTRICAL,
SUPPORT ON A ROOF, THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO READY A
FACILITY FOR SOLAR IS NOT IN THE PLAN.
NOW, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE ONLY REASON I'M
BRINGING THIS TO YOU IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF TIMING, TO MAKE
SURE THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS HAPPENING IS CLEAR.
I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ACTUAL SOLAR PANELS
WOULD COME AT A LATER TIME BUT THE UNDERLYING INFRASTRUCTURE
TO READY THE FACILITY WOULD BE PART OF THE BUILDING OPENING.
THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY THE CASE.
I NEED TO BRING THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO
MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST
ADMINISTRATION TO ASK THE PROJECT TEAM TO BRING THAT BACK
IN --
4:51:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

4:51:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND LOOKED AT IT.
IT WOULD PROBABLY COST MORE MONEY TO DO THAT, CORRECT?
4:51:30PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I KNOW IT WOULD COST SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE.
4:51:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M NOT GOING TO -- THAT'S JUST NOT MY THING.
SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MOVE FOR IT, SURE.
NOT MY BAG.
4:51:40PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I UNDERSTAND.
4:51:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT SHE'S SAYING, INITIALLY IN OUR
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRE STATION, IT
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PREPPED FOR SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION.
RIGHT NOW, AS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THE GROSS
MAXIMUM PRICE, WE KNEW THAT THE PANELS WOULDN'T BE THERE BUT
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FITTED SO WE COULD EVENTUALLY
RETROFIT IT WITH SOLAR PANELS.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO THE RETROFITTING IS NOT THERE.
THERE'S NO ACCOMMODATION FOR SOLAR.
4:52:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF MY HOUSE CAN HAVE SOLAR, SO CAN A FIRE
STATION.
4:52:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH HIM.
4:52:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR EXCUSES.
4:52:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HIS HOUSE IS FROM 1968.
4:52:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BEFORE.
ABOUT 1959 OR '60.
I HAVEN'T TOUCHED NO RAFTERS.

4:52:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I SUGGEST THEY COME BACK AND REPORT TO
US.
4:52:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT THE RULE WAS NEW BUILDINGS HAD TO.
4:52:33PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
THE REASON I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING
OUT OF TIME IN THE SENSE THAT JUNE IS WHEN THEY WILL
ACTUALLY PRESENT WITH YOU A GMP.
THAT SAID I THINK IT WOULD REQUIRE IS THEM GOING BACK TO THE
CONSTRUCTION TEAM AND SIMPLY SAYING TO GET THE ELECTRICAL
AND WHAT WOULD THAT BE.
4:52:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASSIGN COUNCILMAN VIERA TO DO THAT
COORDINATION.
4:53:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S NOT --
4:53:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:53:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON MAY 17 --
SORRY, MAY 21st, 2026 ON THE STATUS OF SOLAR INSTALLATION
PREP FOR THE FIRE STATION.
4:53:21PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WOULD SAY THE ADDITIONAL COST TO HAVE
SOMETHING TO BASE THE DECISION ON.
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WHICH IT'S NOT IN
THERE.
YOU NEED SOMETHING ADDITIONAL.
SORRY, THAT CAME OUT WRONG.
4:53:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOT IT.

4:53:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BESIDES COST, THERE'S ALSO THE SENSE OF
TIME, THAT IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR THAT, AND THAT'S NOT IN
THERE AND SOMEBODY IS ALREADY DRAFTING UP PLANS, YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO GET A GMP BY JUNE OR WILL YOU.
4:53:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S GET THE STATUS REPORT.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:53:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, NO, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.
4:53:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALWAYS THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
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