TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2026, 9:00 A.M.
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9:05:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:05:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE THE INDIVIDUAL
WHO IS GOING TO GIVE THE INVOCATION, MR. JASON SOWELL.
WORKED IN THE PASTORAL MINISTRY IN THE NONPROFIT SECTOR IN
TAMPA FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AS A CHURCH PASTOR.
LAW ENFORCEMENT CHAPLAIN, NONPROFIT FOUNDER, HE HAS LED THE
TAMPA-BASED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION CURRENT INITIATIVES SINCE
2008 WITH A MISSION OF DEALING HOPE TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES
THROUGH THE LAUNDRY PROJECT, HOPE FOR HOMES PROJECT, AND
AFFORDABLE CHRISTMAS INITIATIVE.
HE'S ALSO BEEN SERVING AS THE CHAPLAIN WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT SINCE 2016.
MR. JASON SOWELL.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:06:24AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
IF YOU WOULD PRAY WITH ME.
HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY
THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO US.
THANK YOU FOR THESE GREAT LEADERS OF OUR CITY, THESE HEROES
THAT ARE HERE THAT SERVE AND PROTECT OUR CITY.
WE ASK YOUR BLESSING TODAY ON THIS MEETING THIS COUNCIL.
WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM TO THOSE MAKING DECISIONS
FOR OUR CITY, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM COMPASSION AND GRACE
AND MAY THEY EMBODY THAT AND MAY THE VOICES OF OUR COMMUNITY
THAT STAND HERE TODAY AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS, MAY THEY BE
HEARD AND MAY THEY BE WELL REPRESENTED.
MAY WE AS A COMMUNITY STAND FIRM TOGETHER AS WE SHINE A
LIGHT ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED IN OUR FUTURE GOING FORWARD
TO BE AN EVEN GREATER CITY THAN WE ARE.
WE LOVE YOU.
WE THANK YOU THAT WE GET TO BE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY
TOGETHER.
MAY THIS MEETING AND THESE VOICES BE PRODUCTIVE.
WE LOVE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR LOVING US.
IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
9:07:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU'LL LEAD US IN THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
9:07:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:56AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:07:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:07:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:07:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:08:00AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:08:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING
SEPTEMBER 17, 2026?
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
AGENDA REVIEW TIME.
I'LL START OFF WITH, I NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEMS 13 AND
45 FROM THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 50 TO NOVEMBER 5.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY REQUEST.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:08:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.
THAT IS A 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING.
9:08:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 50 TO NOVEMBER 5 AT 315
EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602
AT 10 A.M.
9:09:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY, BUT THAT CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL THE
TIME OF THE START OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
9:09:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE
PUBLIC THAT WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT.
ALSO, I JUST WANT TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC, I FOUND OUT THAT
SOMEBODY IN THE CITY WAS RECRUITING SMALL BUSINESSES TO
E-MAIL US AND TO COME TO THE MEETING TODAY AND ALSO TO PRINT
T-SHIRTS AND REPORT IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO I
THINK STOPPED IT.
IT'S ILLEGAL AND UNETHICAL TO PLAY IN POLITICS WITH CITY AND
TAXPAYER MONEY.
9:09:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, TOO.
9:09:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
TO TALK THROUGH NUMBER 50, IT IS COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO
CONTINUE IT, THEREFORE, IT WILL NOT BE HEARD AT 10:00.
9:09:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS CORRECT.
9:09:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT BEING SAID, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING,
AND THEREFORE I BELIEVE IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DISCUSSED,
ESPECIALLY PARTICULARLY TODAY, IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON IT DURING JUST GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT BECAUSE IT IS THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WOULD WANT THAT INTO THE RECORD.
ANYTHING THEY SAY TODAY WOULD NOT BE PART OF THAT RECORD.
9:10:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALTHOUGH, THAT BEING SAID, MR. SHELBY, IF
YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE CANNOT CONTINUE THAT UNTIL
10:30 --
9:10:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
10:00.
9:10:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY, 10:00, IF PUBLIC COMMENT OCCURS
BEFORE 10:00, IT IS STILL ON THE AGENDA.
9:10:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA AND IT IS
NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
9:10:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
I WOULD BE SAYING, IF SOMEONE IS HERE AND WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THAT ITEM, BECAUSE IT IS ON THE AGENDA AND WON'T BE REMOVED
UNTIL 10:00, I WOULD GIVE THEM THE DEFERENCE AND BE ABLE TO
SPEAK TO THAT ITEM.
9:10:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE.
THANK YOU.
9:10:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
I NEED A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 62 TO NOVEMBER 19.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:11:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE WRITTEN STAFF REPORT,
66, 67, AND 68.
9:11:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
66, 67, AND 68.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
IS STAFF NEEDED FOR 60 AND 61?
HEARING NO STAFF IS REQUIRED FOR 60 AND 61, CAN I GET A
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'RE CLIPPING RIGHT ALONG, AREN'T WE?
VERY GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE?
63, 64, 65 STAFF IS GOING TO BE PRESENT FOR ALREADY.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
ANYBODY ELSE -- ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA?
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM VIERA, ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE ADOPTED THE AGENDA.
IT'S TIME FOR COMMENDATION TIME.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:12:06AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:12:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO ADOPT THE ADDENDUM.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
9:12:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE HERE TODAY TO DO OUR OFFICER OF THE
MONTH.
WE ALWAYS DO THIS, AGAIN, WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING OUR WONDERFUL POLICE
OFFICERS.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PERSON, WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT CHIEF
MESSMER OR DEPUTY OR ASSISTANT.
9:12:48AM >> PATRICK MESSMER, DEPUTY CHIEF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
TODAY WE ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE OFFICER BARRY MAURER.
IF OFFICER MAURER WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
HE'S BEEN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIVE YEARS.
THREE OF THE FIVE YEARS SPENT AS FIELD TRAINING OFFICER IN
DISTRICT 2, WORKS PREDOMINANTLY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
HE HAS OVER TWO DECADES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE WHEN
HE CAME TO THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT INCLUDING A LOT OF
LEADERSHIP AND SUPERVISORY EXPERIENCE.
THAT'S WHAT MOTIVATED HIM TO BECOME A FIELD TRAINING
OFFICER.
FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THEY TRAIN THE NEW RECRUITS WHEN THEY LOSE THE POLICE
ACADEMY.
FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS TRAIN THEM HOW TO DO THE JOB, HOW TO
INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY, UPHOLD THE VALUES OF THE
MISSION OF THE DEPARTMENT.
NOT ONLY DO THEY TRAIN THEM HOW TO DO THE JOB, THEY REALLY
MOLD THEM FOR THEIR MINDSET OF HOW THEY ARE GOING TO POLICE
FOR THE REST OF THEIR CAREERS.
OFFICER MAURER IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY DETAIL ORIENTED, VERY
KNOWLEDGEABLE, VERY COMMENDABLE WORK ETHIC.
AND HE IS SUCH A GOOD TRAINER AND HAS SUCH GOOD LEADERSHIP
SKILLS WE FREQUENTLY USE HIM TO TRAIN SOME OF OUR RECRUITS
WHO NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE ASSISTANCE AND ARE FACING SOME
CHALLENGES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE'S ALSO VERY EXPERIENCED
INVESTIGATOR.
DOES GREAT INVESTIGATIVE WORK.
THERE WAS A RECENT CASE WHERE HE HELPED OUR DETECTIVES
IDENTIFY AND ARREST SOME INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN AN ARMED
ROBBERY.
ADDITIONALLY, HE'S A VERY PROACTIVE OFFICER.
RECENT EXAMPLES OF THAT, THERE WAS AN INSTANCE WHERE HE WAS
ABLE TO LOCATE AND IDENTIFY SOMEBODY WHO PREVIOUSLY FLED
FROM A TRAFFIC STOP AND HAD FELONY CHARGES.
HE WAS PROACTIVE AND WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND ARREST
SOMEBODY WHO WAS ILLEGALLY IN POSSESSION OF A FIREARM AND
NARCOTICS.
HE WAS ABLE TO ALSO IDENTIFY AND ARREST SUSPECTS WHO WERE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THEFT OF ANOTHER FIREARM.
VIOLENT CRIME AND FIREARM OFFENSES ARE OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CURBING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OFFICER MAURER DOES A GREAT JOB OF THE REACTIVE AND
PROACTIVE POLICE WORK.
TRAINS OUR NEW OFFICERS IN AN EXEMPLARY FASHION, INSTILLING
IN THEM EVERYTHING WE WANT OUR TAMPA POLICE OFFICERS TO BE.
FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE RECOGNIZING HIM AS OUR OFFICER OF
THE MONTH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE WE HONOR YOU FORMALLY AND HAVE COUNCIL
SPEAK, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE
TO HONOR YOU.
9:15:21AM >> TAMPA PBA.
ON BEHALF OF ALL THE MEMBERS, WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU IN
RECOGNITION OF ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO, BARRY.
9:15:28AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, OFFICER MAURER.
GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN TAMPA.
THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SACRIFICES AND TIME.
THANK YOU WITH THIS GIFT CARD TO ANY OF THE 1905 FAMILY OF
RESTAURANTS.
COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, FLAMENCO SHOW, ULELE, THANK YOU FOR
EVERYTHING YOU DO.
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:15:59AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MARY DILLON REPRESENTING THE STRAZ CENTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OFFICER, FOR YOUR SERVICE.
ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL STRAZ, TICKETS TO SEE NUTCRACKER.
ENJOY THE HOLIDAYS.
TICKETS TO SEE NUTCRACKER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING.
CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING, HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT
CARD TO ENJOY DINNER FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:16:42AM >> BRIAN FORD WITH THE BUCCANEERS.
GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
GOOD MORNING.
WE MET IN THE LOBBY THERE.
WE HAVE A TRADITION AFTER HEARING YOUR STORY.
KIND OF FALLS IN LINE AT ONE BUCCANEER PLACE.
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
HEARING YOUR STORY, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DEFINITELY GO OVER
AND ABOVE.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, OUR COACHES, PLAYERS, OUR
ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THE
SACRIFICE THAT YOUR FAMILY GIVES FOR OUR GREAT CITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A GAME BALL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
ALWAYS HARD TO GO AFTER THE BUCS BALL.
I'LL DO MY BEST.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
WE WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WE'VE GOT A BASKET WITH A SPOTTED LEOPARD.
LYNN, YOU ALWAYS ASKED ME ABOUT THAT.
SPOTTED LEOPARDS ARE REALLY CUTE BUT HAVE REALLY BIG FANGS.
PROBABLY SOME ANALOGY WITH POLICING THERE.
IN HERE IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND YOUR
FAMILY TO ENJOY.
WE HAVE CREATURES OF THE NIGHT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
I WANT TO THANK YOUR FAMILY AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THAT AND
THANK EVERYBODY IN SERVICE.
NOT LOOKING AT YOU ALAN, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE EYE
CONTACT.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING.
AWESOME.
AWFULLY SPECIAL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:05AM >> LEO GEARY AND DENNIS MONTERO WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THE AWARD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I SAY THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME I'M UP HERE AND CONTINUE TO
SAY.
I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT
PUTS THE UNIFORM ON EVERY SINGLE DAY.
MAKES IT SAFE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, PRESENT TO YOU A HANDWRITTEN
LETTER FROM JENNIFER CURRY HERSELF, GIFT CARD AND FULL FREE
MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE AND SOME FORD APPAREL
AS WELL.
9:18:38AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GABBY ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK.
WE'RE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR
COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE A PERSONALIZED PAVER LOCATED ON PLATT STREET FOR
YOU AND DINNER FOR TWO ON BOARD YACHT STARSHIP.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:08AM >> CHAIR, I THINK YOU NEED AN AUTOMATIC LAZY SUSAN UP HERE
TO KEEP PEOPLE ORIENTED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
YOU CAN JUST PUSH THE BUTTON SO IT ROTATES IT BACK TO --
9:19:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I NEED A ZAPPER JUST FOR YOU.
9:19:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE'LL START WITH YOU.
9:19:23AM >> EITHER THAT OR A HOOK, WHICHEVER YOU WANT.
IT'S FINE.
I'M STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT FOLKS.
CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP IS PROVIDING WITH YOU A GIFT
CERTIFICATE SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, BREAKFAST,
LUNCH OR DINNER.
ON BEHALF OF THE JACKSON'S BISTRO OVER ON HARBOUR ISLAND,
ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE AND YUMMY HOUSE OVER ON
DALE MABRY.
PLEASE BRING THESE LETTERS AND THE CERTIFICATE WITH YOU.
9:19:55AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:57AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
9:20:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OFFICER, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF
TAMPA, ALL 400,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, AND I BELIEVE YOUR FAMILY IS HERE, AM I CORRECT?
AND WE SALUTE YOU, SIR, AND YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR AMAZING
SACRIFICE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:22AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT'S VERY HUMBLING TO GET THESE AWARDS.
I THINK IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE TAMPA COMMUNITY THAT FOLKS
LIKE YOU COME OUT AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
I KNOW IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT IT IS APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MY FAMILY IS HERE.
MY MOM AND MY DAD, MY WIFE, MY TWO KIDS.
9:20:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GET THEM TO STAND.
FAMILY MEMBERS, STAND UP.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:50AM >> HAPPY TO SKIP SCHOOL TODAY.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB FOR ME AT HOME.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THEM AND PATIENT WITH OUR WEIRD
SCHEDULING.
THANK YOU TO MY WIFE FOR JUGGLING THAT.
CHAIN OF COMMAND TOP-NOTCH, TOP DOWN.
CHIEF OWEN, DEPUTY CHIEF MESSMER, MAJOR McCORMICK,
CAPTAIN -- THEY MAKE DECISIONS WAY ABOVE MY PAY GRADE, BUT I
CAN FEEL THE DIFFERENCE THEY MAKE ON THE STREETS.
I CAN FEEL IN THE DISTRICT AND THE DEPARTMENT THEY ARE DOING
A GREAT JOB.
MY IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR, SERGEANT AND CORPORAL.
SHE IS A GREAT PERSON.
WITH US ON THE STREETS.
GUIDING US, HELPING US OUT AND KEEPING US IN LINE.
WHETHER A COMPLICATED CALL OR SCARY CALL, I KNOW THEY ARE
BESIDE ME.
I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR SERGEANT NEMETH FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS
NOW.
PROBABLY THE BEST LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADER I'VE EVER WORKED
FOR.
THANK YOU, SIR.
I APPRECIATE IT.
FINALLY, SQUAD 209, GROUP OF GUYS AND GIRLS WHO ARE JUST
EXCEPTIONAL IN WHAT THEY DO.
WHEN NOT MAKING FUN OF ME FOR BEING OLD, THEY ARE SUPER
SUPPORTIVE AND TEACH ME THINGS EVERY DAY.
HONESTLY, ANY ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR THIS
AWARD THAN ME.
THANK YOU TO THEM AND THANK YOU TO YOU ALL.
APPRECIATE IT.
9:22:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, THIS IS ONE OF OUR FAVORITE DAYS OF
THE MONTH.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE -- THIS CITY COUNCIL IS VERY
APPRECIATIVE OF THE FOLKS THAT WEAR THE UNIFORM AND PROTECT
US.
THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR IT ALL.
THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO EVERY DAY KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY
SAFE AND SOUND.
THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY FOR SHOWING UP TODAY.
WITHOUT FAMILY SUPPORT, IT'S A DIFFICULT JOB TO HAVE AND TO
BE ABLE TO GO HOME AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FAMILY LIFE AND
PUT ON THE UNIFORM EVERY MORNING TO COME OUT FOR THE REST OF
YOUR FAMILY WHICH IS ALL OF US IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
THANKS, GUYS.
HEY, BRIAN FORD, I SEE SOME GUYS STANDING AGAINST THE WALL
THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT NEED TO RECRUIT.
OKAY.
NOW I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
9:23:50AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHTY.
WELL, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
TODAY, WE ARE PRESENTING COMMENDATIONS TO TWO WONDERFUL
PEOPLE.
FIRST, WE ARE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND HONOR MR. ALBERT
OWENS, ALSO KNOWN AS MR. BUCIFIED BERT FOR HIS OUTSTANDING
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY AS A ROLE MODEL,
PHILANTHROPY, AND COMMUNITY ICON.
THIS COMMENDATION RECOGNIZES MR. OWENS' 30 YEARS OF SERVICE
TO WFLA, CHANNEL 8, AND FOR HIS LONG-STANDING DEDICATION TO
UPLIFTING LOCAL YOUTH AND INSPIRING FUTURE GENERATIONS TO
SERVE WITH GENEROSITY AND POSITIVE LEADERSHIP.
BUCIFIED BERT SCHOLARSHIP ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THE
BUCIFIED AND OPERATION LEGACY EMMA LEE IS A LIVE MISSION
REFLECTS MR. OWENS' COMMITMENT TO PRESERVING THE MEMORY AND
LEGACY OF HIS MOTHER EMMA LEE.
SINCE 2004, HE HAS HONORED HER MEMORIES BY GIVING BACK TO
THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTING THE EDUCATIONAL
ASPIRATIONS OF LOCAL YOUTH.
THROUGH HIS SCHOLARSHIP, MR. OWENS AWARDS A DESERVING HIGH
SCHOOL SENIOR $1,000 TOWARD THEIR EDUCATION.
IN ADDITION TO HIS PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS, MR. OWENS'
UNWAVERING DEVOTION TO THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS HAS EARNED
HIM INDUCTION INTO THE PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME FOR THE
PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL ULTIMATE FAN ASSOCIATION, RECOGNIZING
HIS LONG-STANDING PASSION, DEDICATION, AND SUPPORT FOR THE
BUCCANEERS AND THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
THE MESSAGE BEHIND BUCIFIED, BE UNDERSTANDING CITIZENS AND
IDENTIFY FRIENDLY INDIVIDUALS EVERY DAY EMBODIES HIS
COMMITMENT TO KINDNESS, SERVICE, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION ON THIS 1st DAY OF OCTOBER,
2026 TO ALBERT, MR. BUCIFIED BERT, OWENS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:10AM >> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO --
9:26:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, FIRST.
9:26:23AM >> THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER COMING HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS ALBERT OWENS, AKA BUCIFIED BERT.
AS THE COUNCILWOMAN SPOKE, NAYA YOUNG, STANDS FOR BE
UNDERSTANDING CITIZENS IDENTIFY FRIENDLY INDIVIDUALS EACH
DAY BECAUSE A STRANGER CAN BE DANGER.
WE WANT KIDS TO BE COGNIZANT OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS AND GET
THEIR EDUCATION.
IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN TWO WORDS, BUCIFIED, EDUCATION AND
AWARENESS.
BE COGNIZANT OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS BUT WANT TO YOU GET THAT
EDUCATION AND EVERYTHING.
I'M THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I DON'T HAVE MY MOM HERE, BUT I DO HAVE SOME OTHERS HERE
THAT CARE ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT CAME OVER TO SUPPORT THE
BUCIFIED PROGRAM THIS MORNING.
AS WELL AS SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS THAT TOOK TIME TO COME
OVER AS WELL.
I HAVE A STUDENT WHO WON A TURKEY FOR ME WHEN HE WAS THE AGE
OF 5.
HE BEAT EVERYBODY OUT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR BMX BIKE
RIDING, AND HE TOOK THE TIME TO COME.
AT THE AGE OF 5, HE WON THAT, BEAT EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA WITH A BIKE COMPETITION.
WE'VE BEEN CONNECTED EVER SINCE.
HE LIKED THE PROGRAM.
HE GRADUATED FROM USF AND NOW HE'S WORKING.
BUT HE CARES ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
WE DON'T DO WHAT WE DO AS BUCIFIED FOR OURSELVES.
WE WANT TO HELP THE NEXT GENERATION.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM SOME OF THE TOOLS WE LEARNED OVER
THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I STARTED OUT AS A SHOE SHINE
BOY IN YBOR CITY AT THE AGE OF NINE, SO LIFE LESSONS
LEARNED, GROWING UP SINCE THEN AND COMBINED WITH OVER 30
YEARS WORKING AT WFLA TV AFFORDED ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND
OF LIKE HELP THE NEXT GENERATION.
WE HAVE KATY OVER HERE.
KATY HELPED US MAKE SOME MUSIC BACK IN 2010 WHEN SHE WAS
LIKE 7 YEARS OLD.
NOW SHE'S ONE OF OUR SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS.
SO WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT MAKE MUSIC FOR US BACK IN 2002,
SHAWN BROWN.
HE'S OVER HERE TO SUPPORT US.
AND WE HAD SOME STUDENTS THAT CAME OVER AND THEY DID
INTERVIEWS AS WE PRODUCED SHOWS.
BUCIFIED, 30 MINUTES SHOWS.
I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE TO LEARN THAT.
OBSERVATION.
I LEARNED SO MUCH AT CHANNEL 8.
I USED THAT KNOWLEDGE TO HELP THE NEXT GENERATION AND WE
HAVE CARRIE KNOWLES.
COME ON OVER TO SUPPORT US AS WELL.
MOM, SHIRLEY -- I MEAN SHEILA, SO I'M KIND OF A LITTLE
NERVOUS BUT TRYING TO BE NORMAL WITH YOU ALL.
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO COME OVER HERE WITH THE BUCCANEERS
3 AND 0.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THEM REFEREES DIDN'T ALLOW US --
[ LAUGHTER ]
IF YOU ALL CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, WITH THE REFEREES,
IT WAS LIKE UNFAIR WHAT THEY DID TO US.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE HERE FOR A SERIOUS MOMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR GIVING ME
THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I CAN'T THANK HER ENOUGH.
I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'M SO HAPPY THAT CHANNEL 8 TOOK THE TIME TO COME BY AS
WELL.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY OVER HERE THAT I'VE BEEN GOING OUT TO
DINNER WITH FOR 25 YEARS, AND SHE'S LIKE -- JUST TOOK HER TO
BERN'S NOT TOO LONG AGO.
A GRADUATE FROM MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
FRIEND OF MINE HELPING US.
SHE IS HERE AND HER NAME IS JACKIE WILKINS.
HER SON -- RECOGNIZE POLICE JUST RECENTLY.
HER SON IS POLICE HERE.
I TRY TO SURROUND MYSELF WITH POSITIVE PEOPLE.
HOW MANY MINUTES DO I HAVE?
[ LAUGHTER ]
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CUT IT OFF.
BUCCANEERS DON'T GOT ME WANTING TO JUST TALK ABOUT OTHER
THINGS.
I REALLY CAN'T WAY FOR THE BUCCANEERS TO PLAY GREEN BAY
PACKERS.
SINCE GIVING ME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, I'LL STOP RIGHT ABOUT
NOW.
9:31:17AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YOU DID GOOD.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I JUST HAVE TO SAY, THE GREAT THING ABOUT COMMENDATIONS
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZED AND HE'S VERY EXCITED TO BE
HERE TODAY.
JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING REALLY GREAT AND
POSITIVE.
HE'S VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH US TODAY.
9:31:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR JOY AND HAPPINESS IS CONTAGIOUS.
TO BE ABLE TO START A MEETING LIKE THIS, I WANT YOU TO COME
BEFORE EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
OR MAYBE SOMETIMES HALFWAY THROUGH THE MEETING, BEING DRUG
DOWN INTO THE DIRT, HAVE THAT UPLIFTING.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND I WERE JUST AT THE POLICE ATHLETIC
LEAGUE.
WE BOTH SPOKE.
OF COURSE, WE MET A WHOLE LOT OF KIDS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT
IS TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY, ROLE MODEL LEADERSHIP IN
THE COMMUNITY, OF BUILDING THIS NEXT GENERATION OF CITIZENS
FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT'S SO EXCITING TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU UNDERSTAND THE
IMPORTANCE AND ESPECIALLY TYING IT INTO SPORTS HOW IMPORTANT
SPORTS ARE TO BUILDING THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
TAMPA IS A SPORTS TOWN, BUT WE'RE A SPORTS TOWN FROM THE
TIME KIDS ARE THREE, FOUR, FIVE YEARS OLD, AND WE BUILD
THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
HOW MANY MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS THAT WE'VE CULTIVATED THROUGH
ALL OUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF LEAGUES AND FOLKS THAT HAVE
REALLY TRULY BECOME LEADERS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT AND BECOME
CAPTAINS OF INDUSTRY AND TEACHERS AND EVERY OTHER TYPE IN
OUR COMMUNITY, OUR VERY OWN LEADER OF PAL, POLICE ATHLETIC
LEAGUE, FORMER NFL PLAYER THAT STARTED OFF IN THE POLICE
ATHLETIC LEAGUE, GROWING UP IN ROBLES PARK I BELIEVE HE
SAID.
AND STARTING IN ATHLETICS AND THEN TURNING INTO A COMMUNITY
LEADER HELPING KIDS EVERY DAY.
IT'S SO EXCITING.
SO EXCITING FOR YOU TO BE HERE.
I DON'T NORMALLY TALK THIS MUCH BUT I REALLY LOVE YOUR
PRESENTATIONS.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:33:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW YOU AND THE GENTLEMAN SPEAKING.
IN FACT, WHEN YOU TOOK YOUR THREE MINUTES TIMES SIX --
[ LAUGHTER ]
-- BUT IF I WAS THE OWNER OF THE BUCS, ALL MY HELMETS WOULD
LOOK LIKE YOUR HEAD.
THEY WOULD NEVER LOSE A GAME.
BLIND THE OPPOSITION.
9:33:35AM >> THAT'S WHY I LOVE MY COUNCILS.
I THINK WE ARE THE BEST.
WE HAVE THE BEST COUNCILS IN THE ENTIRE NATION.
LOVE YOU GUYS.
9:33:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TAKE THE DARK GLASSES OFF.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:33:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU SAID IT RIGHT.
WE CAN HONOR UNIQUE PEOPLE AND SEE THEM.
SIR, IN A WORLD OF TOOLS, LIKE, YOU'RE AWESOME.
YOU KEEP IT REAL.
YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE.
I THINK THAT IS SO COOL.
JUST KEEP ON BEING WHO YOU ARE.
WE'VE GOT TO SEE PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
9:34:17AM >> THANK YOU.
9:34:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WANTED TO SAY
SOMETHING TO YOU.
9:34:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I NEVER MET YOU PERSONALLY BUT I'VE SEEN
YOU IN ACTION, SPECIFICALLY THANKSGIVING MORNING YOU POP
INTO DONATELLO'S ON DALE MABRY WHERE THEY OPEN THE
RESTAURANT AND FEED ANYBODY THAT IS HUNGRY.
I'VE SEEN YOU THERE MANY, MANY YEARS.
AGAIN, YOU'RE ON TV.
I SEE YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU ARE VERY UNIQUE IN CHARACTER BUT ALWAYS DOING SOMETHING
GOOD.
YOUR PURPOSE IS ALWAYS HELPING SOMEBODY OR SOMETHING
CHARITABLE OR LIFTING SOMEBODY UP.
YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND WE'RE ALL VERY HONORED
THAT YOU ARE HERE AND WE GET TO HONOR YOU AND SHOW THE FOLKS
AT HOME ALL THAT YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:06AM >> CAN I SAY THANK YOU?
I'M OUT OF TIME.
9:35:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL BRING UP -- BRIAN FORD, DO YOU WANT
TO COME UP?
9:35:14AM >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THAT.
I'M NOT FANATICAL TO BE FANATICAL BUT I'M FANATICAL TO BE
PHENOMENAL IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:35:21AM >> I'D SAY IT ANOTHER WAY.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ALBERT.
YES, HE IS AN ULTIMATE FAN OF THE BUCCANEERS.
I LOVE THAT, BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE'S BEEN IN THE HALL OF
FAME GOING ON TEN YEARS, NATIONAL FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME FOR
BEING A FAN.
BUT PUT ALL THAT ASIDE, ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, THE
ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, WE THANK YOU FOR BEING A FAN, BUT, MORE
IMPORTANTLY, WE THANK YOU FOR BEING A ROLE MODEL.
THOSE TWO WORDS.
BECAUSE YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL FOR KIDS, FOR ADULTS, FOR
EVERYONE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
THIS RECOGNITION COULD NOT BE FOR A BETTER, MORE DESERVING
INDIVIDUAL.
HE REPRESENTS OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT TAMPA, YOU TALK ABOUT
TITLE TOWN AND TAMPA BAY, NOT JUST ON THE FIELD, IT'S WHAT
HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY.
HE'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
WITH KIDS AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WITH ADULTS, SHOWING THE
PATH TO DO MORE FOR KIDS.
AGAIN, THANK YOU.
I HAVE A GAME BALL FOR YOU BUT AID LITTLE FUMBLE AS I
EXPLAINED IN THE LOBBY.
BUT IT'S COMING IN.
YOU'LL HAVE A GAME BALL.
YOU GO OVER AND ABOVE DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY,
NOT JUST FOR THE BUCCANEERS, BUT THE COMMUNITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:36:34AM >> WHOO!
WHOO!
THANK YOU ALL!
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!
I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
HOW MUCH MORE TIME I GOT?
CAN I GET ABOUT THREE MORE MINUTES?
[ LAUGHTER ]
STACY SCHAIBLE IS HERE.
SHE IS OUR ANCHOR.
9:36:55AM >> STACY SCHAIBLE, NEWS CHANNEL 8.
I WOULDN'T MISS THIS FOR THE WORLD.
THIS MAN HAS BEEN AROUND -- I'VE BEEN HERE 26 YEARS.
BRIAN, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WALK IN ON A MONDAY MORNING
AFTER THE BUCS LOSE AND I'M LIKE OOOH.
YESTERDAY HE GOES, THEY ARE STILL ONLY ONE GAME OUT OF THE
DIVISION LEAGUE.
HE FINDS THE POSITIVE IN EVERYTHING.
YOU ARE HONORING YOUR MOTHER OLE.
SHE'S LOOKING DOWN AND SO PROUD OF YOU.
HE HONORS KIDS THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST ATHLETE OR STUDENT
BUT THEY ARE GREAT HUMAN BEINGS.
WE NEED MORE OF YOU.
WE LOVE YOU.
9:37:30AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I'M OUT OF TIME.
I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS NOBODY.
9:37:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, FOR
BRINGING THAT FOR US TODAY.
9:37:42AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, SO MUCH.
WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENDATION THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL.
TODAY, WE ARE ALSO PROUDLY HONORING AND RECOGNIZING MR.
LESLEY LES MILLER FOR HIS DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY AND THE STATE
OF FLORIDA.
THROUGH HIS DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AS A FORMER HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY COMMISSIONER, ELECTED FLORIDA STATE SENATOR AND
ELECTED FLORIDA STATE REPRESENTATIVE, MR. MILLER HAS
DEMONSTRATED A STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND TO
IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY HE'S HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT.
MR. MILLER WILL RECEIVE THE FIRST INAUGURAL ROBERT BOB
SAMUELS AWARD OF COURAGE FOR THE FIRST ANNUAL BLACK MEN'S
WELLNESS DAY OCTOBER 10, 2026.
AWARD IS ESTABLISHED IN MEMORY AND HONOR OF THE LATE ROBERT
BOB SAMUELS.
MR. SAMUELS WAS THE FOUNDING CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL
PROSTATE CANCER COALITION, COCHAIRMAN OF THE FLORIDA
PROSTATE CANCER TASK FORCE, BOARD MEMBER OF H. LEE MOFFITT
CANCER CENTER AND RESEARCH INSTITUTE, MEMBER OF UNIVERSITY
OF FLORIDA'S BUSINESS SCHOOL DEAN CIRCLE AND A FORMER BOARD
MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF TAMPA BAY.
THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE, MR. SAMUELS ADVOCATED FOR THE INCREASED
FUNDING OF CANCER RESEARCH AND RAISED AWARENESS FOR PROSTATE
CANCER AND HIGHLIGHTED THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON
AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN.
ON THIS FIRST DAY OF OCTOBER, 2026, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
PROUDLY HONORS LESLEY LES MILLER AND THE ENDURING LEGACY OF
ROBERT BOB SAMUELS FOR THEIR COURAGE, LEADERSHIP,
DEDICATION, AND COMMITMENT TO GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY
WITH THE ROBERT BOB SAMUELS AWARD FOR COURAGE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:44AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I
FEEL LIKE I HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS BEING UP THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD
ON BEHALF OF ROBERT BOB SAMUELS.
I MET BOB BEFORE HE MOVED TO TAMPA.
HE LIVED IN NEW YORK.
HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE URBAN LEAGUE AND I WAS ON THE BOARD
OF TRUSTEES.
THEN HE MOVED TO TAMPA.
BOB CONTRACTED PROSTATE CANCER AND BECAME INVOLVED IN TRYING
TO LET MEN KNOW REGARDS TO THE RACE, COLOR, CREED, NATIONAL
ORIGIN WHAT PROSTATE CANCER IS ABOUT AND I CAME DOWN WITH
PROSTATE CANCER AND BOB WAS THERE AS I WENT THROUGH THE
ORDEAL.
THANK THE LORD I'VE BEEN PROSTATE CANCER FREE NOW FOR 19
YEARS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
BUT BOB DID A LOT IN THIS COMMUNITY TO TRY TO GET THE
MESSAGE ACROSS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING YOURSELF CHECKED
OUT AND NOT CHECKED IN.
FOR THOSE MEN OUT THERE LISTENING IN TV LAND AND ALL OF
THOSE IN HERE, GET YOURSELF CHECKED OUT AND NOT CHECKED IN.
PROSTATE CANCER RESEARCH HAS COME A LONG WAY.
THERE'S NO MORE OF THAT BENDING OVER ANYMORE.
YOU GET YOUR BLOOD CHECKED FOR THE PSA THAT TELLS YOU
EVERYTHING GOING ON.
I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE TO RECEIVE THE FIRST AWARD.
I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TODAY TO HAVE HIS WIFE HERE WITH US,
LILLIAN SAMUELS.
BRING A FEW WORDS WITH US.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THIS.
I SERVED COUNCIL 56 DAYS.
PROBABLY THE SHORTEST PERIOD OF ANYBODY IN HISTORY.
ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MARRIED TO GWENDOLYN MILLER
WHO SERVED UP THERE 16 YEARS.
UNFORTUNATELY SHE COULDN'T BE HERE WITH US TODAY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH HER BEING UP
THERE.
I'LL MAKE SURE SHE STAYS UP THERE IF I POSSIBLY CAN.
ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:55AM >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS LILY SAMUELS.
IT GIVES ME GREAT HONOR AND A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE TO TALK
ABOUT MY HUSBAND BOB SAMUELS.
WHEN I THINK OF BOB AND THOSE MOMENTS THAT HE GAVE COURAGE
TO THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE HE TOUCHED, I THINK OF THE
TIMES THAT HE WENT FORWARD EVEN THOUGH THE DIFFICULT TIMES
HE KNEW WERE AHEAD.
BOB GREW UP IN PHILADELPHIA DURING THE TIME WHEN
OPPORTUNITIES WERE NOT GREAT FOR PEOPLE OF HIS SKIN COLOR.
BUT HE PERSEVERED.
HE SERVED IN THE AIR FORCE.
AFTER THAT, HE BECAME A PIONEERING BLACK BANKER IN OUR
NATION, AND HE WORKED FOR ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MAJOR BANKS IN
OUR NATION.
HE LATER BECAME THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN VICE PRESIDENT IN
OUR NATION.
AND HE LED MANY THINGS IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY.
BUT BOB'S GREATEST ACT OF COURAGE WAS WHEN HE DEVELOPED
AGGRESSIVE PROSTATE CANCER.
BUT HE USED HIS MEDICAL EXPERIENCE TO HELP OTHER MEN IN
THEIR LIVES PERTAINING TO HEALTH.
HE BEGAN EDUCATING MEN ABOUT PROSTATE CANCER TO TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR HEALTH AND THAT BUILDING
ORGANIZATIONS THAT DEDICATED TO PROSTATE CANCER WAS THE ROAD
HE TOOK TO LEAD.
HE BROUGHT AWARENESS AND ADVOCATED FOR PROSTATE CANCER
RESEARCH.
BOB FOUNDED THE TAMPA BAY MEN'S CANCER TASK FORCE, THE
FLORIDA PROSTATE CANCER NETWORK, AND HE BEGAN THE FOUNDING
CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL PROSTATE CANCER COALITION.
THROUGHOUT BOB'S HEALTH CHALLENGES, HE CONTINUED SPEAKING,
EDUCATING, WRITING, AND ADVOCATING FOR MEN'S HEALTH.
BOB WAS DRIVEN, AND HE DID NOT GIVE UP.
HIS COURAGE TURNED OBSTACLES INTO OPPORTUNITIES AND PERSONAL
STRUGGLES INTO A MISSION TO HELP OTHERS.
SO WHEN I HEAR THE WORDS "AWARD OF COURAGE," I KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT THEY REPRESENT.
THEY REPRESENT PERSEVERANCE, STANDING UP, EVEN WHEN YOU KNOW
THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TIMES.
BELIEVING THAT YOUR LIFE HAS VALUE AND USING THAT LIFE TO
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BOB SPENT HIS LIFE SHOWING THAT COURAGE IS NOT JUST SIMPLY
SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.
COURAGE IS SOMETHING TO LIVE.
THAT IS THE LEGACY OF BOB SAMUELS.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
TO MAYOR CASTOR AND EACH EVERY ONE OF YOU, KARL LAVENDER.
I'M RETIRED BUT ALSO A CANCER SURVIVOR.
TWO CANCERS -- KIDNEY AND PROSTATE.
I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU HAVING THE BATON PASSED TO ME IN
MEMORY OF BOB SAMUELS, I TAKE THAT CHARGE.
AND ON OCTOBER THE 10th, WE WILL GATHER MEN FROM ALL OVER
OUR CITY IN SOLIDARITY TO WORK AS HARD AS WE CAN TO GET MEN
CHECKED OUT RATHER THAN CHECKED IN.
THANK YOU, LILY.
THANK YOU, LES, THANK YOU TO YOU ALL.
WE WILL CONQUER THIS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:46:11AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
9:46:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
I'M REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I JOINED THE CANCER CLUB NOT THAT LONG
AGO.
MY PUSH IS FOR EVERYONE -- MEN AND WOMEN, TO MAKE THEIR
ANNUAL PHYSICAL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FOCUS.
ALL OF US WHO ARE TOUCHED BY CANCER GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT
FOCUS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT WAS A VERY TOUCHING STORY AND GREAT WAY TO START THE DAY.
THANK YOU FOR ESPECIALLY FOCUSING ON PROSTATE CANCER AND MEN
GETTING -- GETTING MEN TO GO TO THE DOCTOR CAN BE A MORE
DIFFICULT THING.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
TESTING HAS IMPROVED.
AND THAT'S THE THING THAT I TALK ABOUT AS WELL.
I'LL BRING THAT YOU EDUCATED ME THIS MORNING.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I TALK ABOUT THAT AND THE
FACT THAT NO LONGER IS -- ARE CHECKUPS INVASIVE,
NECESSARILY.
THEY ARE COMING UP WITH NEW BLOOD TESTS EVERY DAY, AND I
JUST REALLY DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
SOLIDARITY.
ESPECIALLY TODAY, THE BEGINNING OF BREAST CANCER AWARENESS
MONTH.
9:47:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:47:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE COURAGE OF ROBERT SAMUELS
AND THE PEOPLE THAT HE CONTINUES TO HELP.
CONGRATULATIONS TO -- I KNOW YOU AS COMMISSIONER MILLER
BECAUSE WE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER IN THAT PERIOD.
YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT YOU WERE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE
FOR A BRIEF PERIOD, BUT YOU ARE IN THE HISTORY BOOKS.
I THINK YOU DO HAVE THE BOOK, BUT YOU ARE PICTURED THERE.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS
OF SERVICE AND, OF COURSE, YOUR WIFE WHO SERVED HERE FOR 16
YEARS.
THIS IS VERY WELL DESERVED.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK HAS MENTIONED, GET TESTED, GET
SCREENED.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, AND KNOWLEDGE CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE AND A
LOT OF LIVES IN THIS SITUATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:48:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND FOR YOU, MA'AM,
FOR MR. SAMUELS, I SERVED WITH HIM BRIEFLY ON THE
HILLSBOROUGH ACHIEVEMENT RESOURCE CENTER FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES.
IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
HE WAS A FINE GENTLEMAN AND WE SALUTE HIS LEGACY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS FROM THE HEART AND, COMMISSIONER
MILLER, YOU ARE JUST A GENTLEMAN.
YOU ARE LIKE MR. SAMUELS.
I REMEMBER YOU ARE AN AIR FORCE VETERAN AND SERVED RIGHT
AFTER THE FORMAL FALL OF JIM CROW IF I RECALL.
IT IS A UNIQUE TIME IN OUR MILITARY.
I ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.
I ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU, OBVIOUSLY IN THE LEGISLATURE, YOU
WERE JUST A TREMENDOUS VOICE FOR MORE CLARITY THERE.
I REMEMBER FROM YOU, SIR, YOUR VOICE OF MORAL CLARITY ON THE
CONFEDERATE MEMORIAL IN YOUR TIME IN PUBLIC OFFICE, USE YOUR
UNIQUE VOICE AS AIR FORCE VETERAN, PATRIOT, PERSON WHO KNOWS
THE BEST OF THE COUNTRY TO SPEAK MORAL CLARITY ON THAT ISSUE
AND THAT ABOMINATION.
YOU ARE A GOOD GUY.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU.
9:49:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:49:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND SENATOR, FOR ALL
YOU HAVE DONE.
YOU AND YOUR WIFE ARE GREAT ROLE MODELS FOR US IN ELECTED
OFFICE.
YOUR LEGACIES OF THE AREA WHO HAVE SET THE PATHS AND
EXAMPLES FOR ALL OF US TO FOLLOW.
SO THANK YOU, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH YOU.
WAS GLAD TO SAY HI EARLIER.
ALSO WANT TO SAY I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT THERE IS AN AWARD
NAMED AFTER BOB SAMUELS.
I KNEW HIM VERY WELL.
THIS GOES BACK 20 YEARS IN MY MEMORY.
I THINK IT WAS CHASE.
HE WAS A VERY, VERY SENIOR PERSON WITH HIM AND TRAVELING ALL
OVER THE PLACE.
MIGHT GET THE STORY SLIGHTLY WRONG, GOING BACK IN MEMORY,
THEN HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH THIS AND HE WAS NOT, I THINK,
EXPECTED TO LAST VERY LONG.
BUT THEN HE LIVED LIKE ANOTHER TEN OR MORE YEARS BECAUSE OF
THE TREATMENT.
DESPITE ALL THE WEARINESS FROM THE TREATMENT, HE WAS
TRAVELING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
TO REALLY CREATE A NATIONAL PROSTATE CANCER COALITION FROM
TAMPA.
I REMEMBER WHEN HE FIRST WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT, TO DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM TAMPA AND CREATE A NATIONAL,
INTERNATIONAL PRESENCE WAS A REALLY REMARKABLE THING.
HATS OFF TO HIM FOR DOING THAT AND ALL THE LIVES HE SAVED.
I'LL END BY SAYING HE SAID THAT MEN IN GENERAL AND I THINK
IN PARTICULAR AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN DON'T LIKE TO GO TO THE
DOCTOR EVERY YEAR.
HE IN PARTICULAR WAS TARGETING MEN, ALTHOUGH AS MY COLLEAGUE
SAID, EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET TESTED.
HE WAS PUSHING HEAVILY THE PSA TEST.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER TESTS ALSO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET.
I THINK THE CAT SCAN AND OTHERS.
BUT HE WAS SAYING IF WE COULD JUST GET EVERYBODY TO GO FOR
THE PSA TEST.
YOU SHOULD BE DOING BLOOD WORK EVERY YEAR ON CHOLESTEROL AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
ASK THEM TO INCLUDE THAT.
IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR REGULAR ANNUAL PHYSICAL.
THE ANNUAL PHYSICAL IS USUALLY FREE, I THINK, IN MOST
INSURANCE POLICIES.
JUST ON BEHALF OF BOB, I WOULD SAY PLEASE GO GET THOSE TESTS
DONE.
IF YOU GET THEM DONE EARLY, IT WILL HELP SAVE LIVES AS THE
EXAMPLES WE HEAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING BOB'S MEMORY ALIVE.
HE WAS A GREAT PERSON, A POSITIVE INFLUENCE, GREAT LEADER.
I TOLD YOU IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN HE WOULD SIT AT LUNCH AND
TELL ME THE STORIES ABOUT THE TREATMENTS, I WOULD ALMOST
PASS OUT.
HE WOULD STOP AND SAY, DON'T PASS OUT.
WE'LL KEEP GOING ON.
HE WORKED REALLY HARD ON DIFFERENT TREATMENTS AND RESEARCH
AND OTHER THINGS.
I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU ARE CARRYING ON HIS LEGACY.
THANK YOU.
9:51:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:51:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
ECHO WHAT EVERYONE SAID, BUT ESPECIALLY YOUR WIFE.
I WORKED WITH HER MOST OF THE 16 YEARS.
SHE WAS SMART, FUNNY, AND STRAIGHT.
SHE WOULD TELL YOU JUST HOW SHE FELT AND SAT RIGHT IN THOSE
TWO CHAIRS WHERE THE CHAIRMAN IS AND WHERE MS. YOUNG SITS.
I THINK SHE BECAME CHAIR FOR A COUPLE OR FOUR YEARS,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH HER.
THAT'S HOW I MET YOU, SIR.
SHE WAS VERY FUNNY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
NOT ONLY ON THE STAGE BUT I THINK HER OFFICE WHERE GUIDO IS
AT IN THE CORNER.
MY OFFICE WAS HERE.
ONE DAY I HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER COME AND TELL ME, I DON'T
WANT MY OFFICE.
I WANT A BIGGER OFFICE.
I SAID WHY DON'T YOU TAKE MINE.
SHE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO SAY.
WHEN I BECAME CHAIRMAN, I MEASURED ALL THE OFFICES.
I KNEW SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO ASK ME ABOUT THAT, AND MINE WAS
THE SMALLEST.
I OFFERED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER THIS OFFICE.
SHE WAS LAUGHING BECAUSE SHE KNEW THAT WAS THE SMALLEST.
I TOLD HER THAT WAS THE SMALLEST SHE WENT BACK TO HER OLD
OFFICE.
THAT WAS THE TYPE OF PERSON SHE WAS.
I COULD SHARE INFORMATION WHAT I HAD DONE BECAUSE I KNEW
SOONER OR LATER SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO SAY MY OFFICE IS TOO
SMALL COMPARED TO THE REST.
THE LARGEST OFFICE I HATE TO SAY IS --
9:53:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MINE?
9:53:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
YOU TURNED YOURSELF IN.
THAT'S THE LARGEST ONE WE HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND MR. SAMUELS.
CANCER I BELIEVE IS IN EVERY ONE.
IT JUST STARTED BY SOMETHING ELSE AND STARTS FESTERING
ITSELF AND CAUSING THE PROBLEM.
ONE CELL VERSUS ANOTHER CELL.
CELL, CELL, CELL.
THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.
EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS HAD SOMEBODY PASS AWAY
FROM CANCER.
SOONER OR LATER I HOPE IT'S SOLVED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
9:53:48AM >> GETTING CHECKED OUT EARLY IS IMPORTANT.
MY WIFE IS A TWO-TIME CANCER SURVIVOR.
HAD BREAST CANCER TWICE.
OUR DAUGHTER HAD CANCER FIVE TIMES.
BECAUSE SHE CAUGHT IT EARLY, SHE'S DOING VERY WELL.
I'VE HAD IT THREE TIMES.
EARLY DETECTION WILL SAVE LIVES.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH,
BEING THE FATHER OF A RETIRED CITY OF TAMPA POLICE SERGEANT
IS VITALLY IMPORTANT.
I PRAYED FOR HIM AND EVERY POLICE OFFICER EVERY NIGHT GOING
OUT THERE ON THOSE JOBS.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
AGAIN, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING BOB WITH US.
WE DO APPRECIATE IT.
YOUNG LADY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:54:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
OUR OFFICES ARE LIKE VERSAILLES BACK THERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
LIKE A CLOAK CLOSET IN VERSAILLES, BUT THEY ARE LIKE
VERSAILLES.
A LOT OF TITLES, COUNCILMAN, COMMISSIONER, REPRESENTATIVE,
SENATOR, FATHER, A HUSBAND VETERAN, SO MANY TITLES.
EVERYBODY HAS SAID EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
I WILL SAY, ONE, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING A FRIEND.
YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS,
AND YOUR LOVELY LIFE, JUST GIVE HER A BIG HUG FOR ME.
I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND THE SERVICE THAT YOU
ALL HAVE PROVIDED FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT THE SAME.
IT IS SO MUCH BETTER BECAUSE OF YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR FAMILY
SERVICE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:55:21AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:55:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REBECCA.
9:56:23AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
GOOD MORNING.
REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I AM HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION UPON YOUR REQUEST ABOUT OUR
BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICES PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM IN 2022 TO HELP CITY RESIDENTS WHO
WERE HAVING LANDLORD TENANT ISSUES.
THIS INCLUDES ISSUES WITH CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY OR THE
LANDLORD BREACHING THE CONTRACT OR EVICTION.
THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS SET UP IS CITY RESIDENTS CALL THE
HOUSING HOTLINE, AND THEN THE CITY, IF THEY MEET THE
REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TYPES OF CASES, THE CITY WILL REFER
THOSE CASES TO BAY AREA.
BAY AREA THEN SCREENS THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY MEET INCOME
REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT THE BAY AREA HAS.
IN 2022, THE CITY FUNDED UP TO $75,000.
BAY AREA ENDED UP ONLY EXPENDING 2900 OF THAT.
THERE WERE NINE REFERRALS OVER AND BAY AREA HANDLED TWO
CASES.
IN 2023, THE CITY FUNDED AGAIN $75,000.
BAY AREA EXPENDED 6900.
EIGHT REFERRALS AND BAY AREA HANDLED FIVE CASES.
2024, CITY FUNDED AGAIN 75,000.
BAY AREA EXPENDED 5900.
FIVE REFERRALS AND BAY AREA HANDLED THREE CASES.
IN 2025, THE CITY FUNDED UP TO $10,000.
BAY AREA ACTUALLY EXPENDED ZERO.
THERE WERE TWO CASES, BUT THEY BUILD THEM TO A DIFFERENT
FUNDING SOURCE, SO NONE OF THE MONEY WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE
CITY FUNDING.
A LOT OF THE CALLS THAT WE GET FROM RESIDENTS ARE FOR RENTAL
ASSISTANCE.
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A LEGAL ISSUE, THOSE CASES DON'T GET
REFERRED TO BAY AREA.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BAY AREA TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
BETTER SERVE MORE RESIDENTS.
SO WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IS A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE
CALLING BAY AREA DIRECTLY, AND THEY ARE NOT COMING THROUGH
OUR HOTLINE.
THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS SET UP RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD NOT FUND
THOSE CASES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T COME THROUGH THE HOTLINE.
WE ARE BRINGING A NEW CONTRACT BACK TO YOU WHERE RESIDENTS
CAN DIRECTLY CONTACT BAY AREA AND BAY AREA CAN DRAW DOWN ON
CITY FUNDING FOR THAT.
BAY AREA BELIEVES THEY HAVE ENOUGH OF THE VOLUME THAT THAT
WILL TAKE UP THE CITY FUNDING.
9:58:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOTIONED FOR THIS BECAUSE I VISITED OUR
FRIENDS AT LEGAL NOT LONG AGO AND THIS CAME UP.
YOU THINK BY MAKING THE CHANGES AND MAKING THE HOTLINE.
FIRST OFF, THE CITY FUNDING GETS ACTIVATED BY THE PERSON
USING THE HOTLINE THEN.
9:59:12AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
CORRECT.
9:59:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT CHANGES CAN BE MADE TO MAKE THAT HOTLINE
MORE READILY KNOWN TO FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY?
BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY.
9:59:22AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
SO THE HOTLINE IS ADVERTISED REGULARLY.
IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE PUT IT ON PUBLICATIONS WHEN WE GO OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THAT PEOPLE JUST AUTOMATICALLY
CALL BAY AREA FIRST BECAUSE THEY HEARD ABOUT THE BAY AREA
SERVICE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE ELEMENT OUT OF THEM
HAVING TO REACH US.
THAT WAY WE CAN STILL HELP THOSE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T COME
TO US FIRST.
9:59:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
YEAH, WE STARTED THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
I THINK MS. LOCKET IS HERE WHO HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THAT.
SHE'S LIKE, OH, YEAH.
WHO HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THAT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS GETS FUNDED.
YEAH, BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICES IS SUCH A GODSEND IN THE
COMMUNITY.
IT'S FUNNY TALKING ABOUT LES MILLER REMINDED ME OF THE LATE
JUDGE DON CASTOR, THE FIRST EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LEGAL
SERVICES AFTER ITS CREATION.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A FACILITY NAMED AFTER THE LATE JUDGE
CASTOR WHO WAS JUST SUCH A GOOD DUDE AND PUBLIC SERVANT.
HE WAS A GREAT GUY.
WHAT I'LL DO, IF I MAY, I'LL MOTION FOR SOMETHING TO COME
BACK IN THREE MONTHS, A WRITTEN REPORT, JUST ON WHATEVER
CHANGES.
I WON'T BE HERE, BUT JUST SO THAT -- I'M SAYING WHAT I'M
GOING TO DO.
MOTION FOR THAT TO COME FORWARD LATER ON, JUST SO THAT WE
CAN KEEP A HANDLE ON IT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS UTILIZED EFFECTIVELY.
THANK YOU AS ALWAYS.
10:00:45AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
THE NEW CONTRACT WILL BE COMING THE FIRST
HEARING IN NOVEMBER.
THAT WILL BE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
10:00:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT THEN.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:00:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK WITH
THIS.
MY QUESTION -- AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE IN TRYING
TO FIND LIKE HOW WE CAN SPEND THIS MONEY AND CHANGING THE
PARAMETERS AROUND IT.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU THINK $10,000 IS ENOUGH THE FIRST YEAR
FOR THIS PILOT?
OR DO YOU THINK MAYBE LIKE 15,000 MIGHT BE A BETTER NUMBER?
10:01:23AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
THAT IS NOT A LEGAL QUESTION.
THE REASON WE HAD TAKEN IT DOWN TO TEN IS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T
GETTING THE RESPONSE THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO
GET.
MAYBE IF WE SEE HOW THIS TEN GOES WITH THE NEW ADJUSTMENTS
TO THE PROGRAM.
10:01:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS COMING BACK TO US IN NOVEMBER, SO I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL WANT TO DO YOUR MOTION.
HOPEFULLY WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AT THAT
TIME, IS MAYBE BRING US AN UPDATE BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR IN
'28 SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW IT'S BEING EXPENDED.
I KNOW BAY AREA ALWAYS NEEDS MORE FUNDS.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THESE ISSUES IS SO
IMPORTANT.
IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PILLAR OF OUR -- YEAH, OKAY.
THANK YOU.
10:02:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU KEEP IT SHORT?
WE'RE RUNNING REALLY LATE.
10:02:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT AS FAR AS
THE FINANCING AND WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
WHO ARE THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT FUND THE AGENCY?
10:02:32AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
I DON'T KNOW THAT.
10:02:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'D LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE I DO ANYTHING ON
THIS --
10:02:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS A PRESENTATION.
10:02:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OTHER AGENCIES MUCH BIGGER THAN US THAT
DO FUNDING.
10:02:48AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
I CAN FIND OUT FROM THEM.
I'LL GET BACK TO YOU DIRECTLY.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
10:02:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATIONS.
WE RAN REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LONG THIS MORNING.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO ON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS ONLY FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.
IN THE AUDIENCE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR ITEM 50, THE
EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY?
VERY GOOD.
NORMALLY -- BECAUSE IT WAS A PUBLIC HEARING, NORMALLY YOU
WOULD ONLY SPEAK WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED.
BECAUSE IT IS COUNCIL'S INTENT TODAY TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE
AGENDA, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
I FELT IN DEFERENCE, BUT I WANT TO INSTITUTIONALIZE THAT IN
A VOTE.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM
50?
HEARING NO OBJECTION --
[INDISCERNIBLE]
-- SO ON --
10:03:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU SAID TAKE OFF THE AGENDA.
CAN YOU STATE THE DATE?
10:03:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE FOR ITEM 50, WHAT
WILL HAPPEN WHEN WE OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING, WE ARE GOING
TO MOVE IT -- CONTINUE IT TO NOVEMBER 5.
10:03:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S PAST 10:00.
YOU CAN DO IT NOW.
10:03:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING?
CAN I DO IT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:04:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
10:04:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 50 TO NOVEMBER 5?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA --
10:04:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
10 A.M., 315.
10:04:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MICROPHONE IS OFF.
10:04:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOVEMBER 5, 10 A.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VIERA AND MANISCALCO?
VERY GOOD.
THAT'S A DONE DEAL NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ON
THE AGENDA.
I HAVE YOUR CARDS IN FRONT OF ME.
NOT VERY MANY TODAY, SO THAT'S GOOD.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, JOHN GREEN, ASHLEY MORROW, SURGRET DOSS,
SANDRA TURRELL AND JAMES RANSOM AND THEN SANDRA.
SANDRA, YOU'LL BE LAST.
STEPHANIE AND JOHN, WOULD YOU QUEUE UP ON THE WALL?
GOOD MORNING, MS. POYNOR, IN YOUR AUTUMN ORANGE.
10:05:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
5 AND 6 ARE APPOINTMENTS TO COMMITTEES.
THOSE APPOINTMENTS SHOULD BE MADE FOR NO MORE THAN THREE TO
SIX MONTHS AFTER THE PERSON WHO IS NOMINATING THEM IS GOING
TO BE IN OFFICE.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS, OR AT LEAST I HAVEN'T SEEN A
PROCESS, FOR TAKING PEOPLE OUT OF APPOINTED POSITIONS.
WE ONLY -- WE BARELY HAVE A PROCESS FOR PUTTING THEM INTO
POSITIONS.
SO WHY ARE WE PUTTING PEOPLE INTO POSITIONS FOR TWO YEARS
AFTER THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT'S NOMINATING THEM IS GOING
TO BE GONE?
I DON'T GET IT.
I KEEP SAYING THIS.
WE NEED A CONSISTENT POLICY ON COMMITTEES.
I TALKED TO SOMEBODY YESTERDAY.
I THINK WE NEED AN ART COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK WAS ONE
OF THE MOST FOCUSED AND PRODUCTIVE THAT I'VE EVER SEEN YOU
GUYS DO.
YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD OF YOURSELVES, BECAUSE THAT MEETING,
IT JUST MADE THE HAIR STAND UP ON THE BACK OF MY NECK.
I MEANT TO SEND YOU GUYS AN E-MAIL ABOUT IT ALL WEEK.
BUT WE WERE MISSING SOMEBODY.
THE MAYOR.
SHE SHOULD WOMAN UP AND WALK OVER.
SHE SHOULD DO IT AGAIN TODAY AT 1:30 AND PARTICIPATE IN THE
PROCESS AS SHE SHOULD HAVE WHEN YOU GUYS SET UP THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION.
YOU HAD TWO SEPARATE ORDINANCES FOR IT.
SHE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT UNTIL AFTER EVERYBODY
SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE.
SHE SHOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THE GOVERNMENT PROCESS WITH
YOU GUYS.
SHE SHOULD BE HERE AT 1:30 TODAY.
THE COMMITTEE BROUGHT UP SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU GUYS MAY
HAVE MISSED.
THE EVENING MEETING FOR A REGULAR MEETING ONCE A MONTH OR
ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS JUST TO GET PEOPLE IN HERE IN THE
EVENINGS.
NUMBER 63, THE PROCESS WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS
APPOINTED TO COUNCIL WAS A PRETTY SMOOTH PROCESS.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WE HAD -- I THINK THERE
WERE 23 APPLICANTS AND THREE OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE
CITY.
SO THIS TIME, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL IF THE CLERK HAD
A WAY TO PREAPPROVE THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE THAT WAS
DISTRICTWIDE.
THAT WAS CITYWIDE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR DISTRICT 7 ONLY.
SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WASTE THEIR TIME AND ENERGY
APPLYING FOR THAT POSITION AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE IN
DISTRICT 7.
THAT'S SOMETHING GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.
WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE EVERYBODY ON THE CLERK STAFF'S TIME
BY ALLOWING PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN DISTRICT 7 TO APPLY.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, LAST TIME WE HAD
THE VOTE IN THE MORNING.
WHY NOT DO IT IN THE EVENING?
DO A SPECIAL CALLED EVENING EVENT FOR IT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW.
I'LL BE BACK.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:08:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MR. GREEN.
10:08:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JOHN GREEN.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF BISHOP
MICHELLE B. PATTY, WHO UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY
BECAUSE OF PRIOR OBLIGATIONS AND MYSELF, WANTS TO THANK YOU
ALL FOR THE NAMING OF THE ACTIVITY CENTER AT WILLIAMS PARK
AND ON BEHALF OF FRANK REDDICK.
FRANK REDDICK WAS A GOOD GUY.
HE WAS A TRAILBLAZER IN THE COMMUNITY.
HE WAS QUIET, BUT HE WAS HEARD AT THE SAME TIME.
SO NAMING THIS CENTER, ACTIVITY CENTER FOR FRANK REDDICK, WE
APPRECIATE IT.
THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED TO SAY, BUT TO COUNCILWOMAN
YOUNG, YOU ARE THE YOUNGEST ON THE DAIS.
AND I CAN APPRECIATE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE OPENING UP THE DOORS
AND YOU'RE RECOGNIZING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO PROBABLY
WOULDN'T HAVE EVER GOTTEN RECOGNIZED.
THIS IS WHAT FRANK WAS ALL ABOUT.
OPENING DOORS.
HE HEARD THE PEOPLE.
WE CAN APPRECIATE YOU.
KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT NOTHING.
WE GOT YOU.
10:09:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. GREEN.
ASHLEY FOLLOWED BY MR. DOSS.
10:09:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SERVE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG FOR
APPOINTING ME.
I LEARNED A LOT SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION, INCLUDING ONE
VERY IMPORTANT THING.
I AM NOT A POLITICIAN.
WHAT I AM IS SOMEONE WHO ENJOYS ADVOCATING FOR PEOPLE WHO
MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE A VOICE OR A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
I AM GRATEFUL THAT SOME OF THE ISSUES, INCLUDING THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL POSITION AND IMPROVED PROJECT STATUS
REPORTING, ALONG WITH OTHER AMENDMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
DEVELOPED BY THE COMMISSION WERE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK AND IT
WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
THANK YOU ALL.
ONE OTHER IDEA THAT CAME OUT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS HOLDING
AN EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEETING ONCE A MONTH.
I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT IS WORTH CONSIDERING.
MANY RESIDENTS WORK DURING THE DAY AND SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE
THE ABILITY TO BE HERE DURING REGULAR CITY COUNCIL HOURS.
IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
WE SHOULD CONTINUE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE PARTICIPATION
MORE ACCESSIBLE.
WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, PARKING IS ANOTHER
ISSUE.
I BELIEVE PARKING SHOULD BE VALIDATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO COME DOWNTOWN TO SPEAK DURING CITY COUNCIL,
ESPECIALLY WHEN MEETINGS RUN FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
YOU WILL BE RECEIVING AN E-MAIL FROM ME VERY SHORTLY
REGARDING PARKING VALIDATION.
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF OTHER CITIES THAT DO IT SO WE DON'T
HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
RALEIGH, SOUTH CAROLINA, OAKLAND PARK, FLORIDA, SAN ANTONIO,
TEXAS, SAN LUIS OBISPO, CALIFORNIA, AND OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA.
I REALLY WANT US TO START CONSIDERING THAT.
PARKING IS GOING UP, UP, UP.
AND I AM SELF-EMPLOYED.
I DO NOT HAVE A VETERANS LICENSE, OR WHATEVER, TO, LIKE, BE
ABLE TO GET FREE VALIDATED PARKING.
IF I STARTED ADDING UP -- IF YOU DON'T COME DOWN HERE, 4.50
AN HOUR FOR THE FIRST HOUR, 3.50 IF YOU RENEW.
IF YOU DON'T RENEW AND MISS THE MARK, YOU DO ANOTHER 4.50.
I SPENT $9 IF I WANT TO SAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT LATER, IT
WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET VALIDATED PARKING.
START MAKING STICKERS FOR PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC TO WEAR THEM
WHEN YOU COME UP.
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
10:11:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
MR. DOSS, FOLLOWED BY MR. RANSOM.
10:11:58AM >> SURGRET DOSS, ARMY DISCHARGED UNITED STATES VETERAN.
I WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE STRENGTHENING OF ITEM 65.
I'M HERE ABOUT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, OF COURSE.
I WANTED TO SPEAK ALSO ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTION.
BECAUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN PUBLIC POSITIONS I KNOW SEE
THINGS.
YOU CAN REPORT THESE THINGS AND A LOT OF THEM WILL SAY, THEY
FEAR REPERCUSSION OR RETALIATION.
OF COURSE, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND DON'T PRETEND TO BE ONE.
SOMETIMES THE RETALIATION IS EASIER TO PROVE THAN THE
ORIGINAL ISSUE.
I LEARNED ABOUT THAT DEALING WITH LITIGATION AGAINST UNITED
PARCEL SERVICE YEARS AGO.
TO THE PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO ARE APATHETIC, YOU LOSE DEMOCRACY
WHEN PEOPLE STOP PARTICIPATING, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS SHOCKING
TO ME TO KNOW THAT TAMPA DID NOT HAVE AN INSPECTOR GENERAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ULTIMATE SALARY WILL BE FOR THIS
INDIVIDUAL OR REALLY WHAT THE REAL PROCESS IS GOING TO BE TO
SELECT THIS PERSON, BUT THIS PERSON HAS TO HAVE A KIND OF
IMMUNITY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, ONE, GOING TO PUT HIM OR
HER IN THAT POSITION.
I CANDIDLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSION THAT HELPS PICK
THEM SHOULD INVOLVE ANYBODY IN THE JUDICIARY.
I REALLY DON'T.
MAYBE I'M A LITTLE BIAS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF
ETHICS PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA WHEN IT COMES TO THE
JUDICIARY.
THERE'S BEEN REALLY QUESTIONABLE BEHAVIOR FROM PEOPLE
SUPPOSEDLY HONORABLE.
WHATEVER IT IS OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GIVE THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL THE VARIANCE TO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO HOLD PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE AND THEN FOR THOSE OF US WHO ELECT THESE PEOPLE
AND OTHER PEOPLE, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY ABOUT A MONTH AWAY.
EARLY VOTING IN TWO WEEKS?
WE'LL GET TO THAT.
MY POINT IS, WE HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.
TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF YOU.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A TEACHER AND HAPPEN TO BE WATCHING
THESE THINGS, MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO TUNE IN FOR A FEW MINUTES
EVERY WEEK TO WATCH NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, COUNTY
COMMISSIONER MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BE
MORE PARTICIPATORY IN GOVERNMENT.
SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
10:14:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. DOSS.
MR. RANSOM.
10:14:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR -- JAMES RANSOM.
I'M REPRESENTING THE TAMPA ORGANIZATION OF BLACK AFFAIRS AND
CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
I'VE GOT JOINING ME A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF OUR SATURDAY
MORNING BREAKFAST GROUP WHICH ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF AS
WELL.
TOBA.
YOU KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU AND THE FACT THAT WE SEND
YOU SOMETIMES VOLUMINOUS INFORMATION, BUT WE TRY TO CONDUCT
OUR WAY OF COMMUNICATING WITH YOU AND THE MAYOR AND CITY
STAFF AFTER BECOMING WELL INFORMED ABOUT WHATEVER WE WANT TO
TALK WITH YOU ABOUT.
WE TRY TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT'S GOT CIVILITY AND DIPLOMACY
AS PART OF OUR PROCESS.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S PRODUCTIVE TO DO IT ANY OTHER WAY.
ON THE MATTER ON 50, ITEM 50 ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS THE
THIRD TIME THAT COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR A SECOND
READING AND WE APPRECIATE YOU HOLDING THAT OFF UNTIL
NOVEMBER THE 5th.
I RECEIVED A CALL THIS MORNING FROM THE MAYOR ON THE WAY
HERE, WHICH WAS REFRESHING.
WE HAD A LITTLE CHAT.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WE'VE GIVEN THEM NOT JUST A PROBLEM, WE DID NOT BRING A
PROBLEM THAT WE DID NOT OFFER SOLUTIONS IN ADDITION TO
SHARING WITH YOU OUR CONCERN.
IT IS GOING TO BE TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR TOBA, OUR
ORGANIZATION, SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST GROUP, AS WE
REPRESENT THE SPECIAL INTERESTS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO
ACCEPT ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE
CITY TO BE EQUITABLE AND FAIR WHEN WE REPRESENT PART OF THE
TAX-PAYING COMMUNITY THAT HAPPEN TO BE BLACK.
ANY OTHER AFFECTED CLASS THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY PROTECTED,
WHETHER HISPANIC OR ASIAN AMERICANS, ALASKANS, VETERANS,
LGBTQ, IT'S JUST WRONG TO COLLECT TAXPAYER MONEY AND ALSO
WRONG TO DISCRIMINATE BY RACE AND GENDER STILL IN AMERICA.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU THIS MORNING JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WE
APPRECIATE IT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS TO
HOPEFULLY SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DO A LITTLE MORE
WORK TO FIND A PATH, LEGAL PATH NOT TO DISCRIMINATE AND BE
FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO ALL OF THE TAXPAYERS WHO REPRESENT THE
TAXPAYERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUSHING THIS BACK A
LITTLE BIT.
HOPEFULLY NOT DOING IT ALL UNTIL WE FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO DO
IT FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE, WHICH IS EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
10:17:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JAMES.
OUR LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER ON ON-AGENDA ITEMS IS SANDRA.
GOOD MORNING, SANDRA.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:17:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS SANDRA ATILES-TYRRELL.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME OR US TO DO SOME
PUBLIC SPEAKING.
ESPECIALLY WELCOME TO THE CLUB THAT NOBODY WANTS TO JOIN.
I'M TWO WEEKS POST-OP.
FOR MY SECOND SURGERY, I HAVE TREATMENT TOMORROW.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO COME HERE AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
DISCOMFORT UNDERNEATH ALL MY CLOTHING, AGAIN, TWO WEEKS
POST-OP.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS MORNING.
I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.
LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS SANDRA ATILES-TYRRELL.
I'M THE OWNER OF SAT INDUSTRIAL SUPPLIES AND SOLUTIONS.
I DID SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THE PROGRAM,
THE EBO PROGRAM HAS FOR OUR BUSINESS.
TODAY, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE MY MOTION.
I WANT MORE SMALL BUSINESSES TO HAVE THE SAME CHANCE.
WE KNOW THE PROGRAM NEEDS CHANGE.
ALL WE ASK IS THAT THEY ARE FAIR.
ANYWAYS, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
TO YOU TODAY AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:18:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SANDRA.
BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR RECOVERY.
10:18:36AM >> THANK YOU.
10:18:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ON-AGENDA ITEMS.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BOARD ADMINISTRATION APPOINTMENTS.
IS LORENE HERO OR HENRY MOSELEY IN THE ROOM?
NO.
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS?
10:18:55AM >> SO MOVED.
10:18:56AM >> SECOND.
10:18:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LORENE HERO AND HENRY MOSELEY.
5 AND 6.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE
MATTERS?
HEARING NONE, CONSENT AGENDA.
7 THROUGH 8, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:19:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
BEFORE I SAY THAT, SANDRA -- [SPEAKING SPANISH]
GRACIAS.
I MOVE ITEMS 7 AND 8.
10:19:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOVE ITEMS 9
THROUGH 12 AND 14 THROUGH 18.
10:19:42AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 12 AND 14 THROUGH 18.
10:19:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:19:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 19 THROUGH 22.
10:19:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 24.
10:20:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE 23 AND 24.
10:20:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE 23 TO 24.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
10:20:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM 31 AND 40.
I'VE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MARTY.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF.
SINCE MY FIRM WORKS WITH THE COMPANY THAT MAY BE RELATED TO
THIS WE DON'T WORK ON ANY OF THESE ISSUES RELATED TO THE
CITY BUT I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF IN AN ABUNDANCE OF
CAUTION.
I'LL ABSTAIN FROM THOSE.
MOVE 25 THROUGH 30 AND THEN 32 THROUGH 39 AND THEN 41.
10:20:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:20:54AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 31 AND 40.
10:20:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG TO MOVE 31
AND 40.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:21:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL HAVE THE FORMS FOR
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON TO SUBMIT.
10:21:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE GET THE CLERK TO READ IT?
10:21:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
I'M SORRY.
10:21:15AM >>THE CLERK:
ITEMS 22 THROUGH 30, 32 THROUGH 39 AND 41 ARE
PASSED BY CARLSON AND MANISCALCO.
ITEMS 31 AND 40 PASSED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING AND HURTAK
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:21:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
42 THROUGH 43.
10:21:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED, 42, 43.
10:21:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CAN I GET --
10:21:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO SET 44, 46, 47, 48.
10:21:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SUBSTITUTES FOR 44 AND 46 AS ON YOUR
ADDENDUM.
ACTUALLY, THEY ARE NOT SUBSTITUTES.
IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
10:22:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO SET
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 44 AND THEN 46 THROUGH 48.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
NUMBER 49.
WE'VE ALREADY OPENED IT.
49.
STAFF PRESENTING?
DO WE NEED STAFF TO PRESENT?
IT'S A SECOND READING.
10:22:47AM >> DO YOU WANT TO HOLD IT?
10:22:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I WAS LOOKING FOR MS. VAN LOAN TO BE HERE.
10:23:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD IT FOR A FEW MINUTES.
10:23:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT 50 DURING AGENDA
SETTING YOU SAID YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE T-SHIRT
THING.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW?
10:23:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND
DO IT AFTER THAT.
THE PEOPLE HERE FOR BUSINESS.
PUT A PIN IN IT.
WE'LL DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT IT.
THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE
NOW QUASI-JUDICIAL.
THEY REQUIRE YOU TO BE SWORN IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEMS 51 THROUGH IS 56, REQUIRED
TO BE SWORN IN.
PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:23:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 51, STAFF.
WHO IS PRESENTING FOR 51?
I SAW SOMEBODY ONLINE JUST A MOMENT AGO.
WE'RE STRIKING OUT HERE, AREN'T WE?
ITEM 51?
10:24:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD BE THE STAFF IS NOT --
10:24:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE WE GO.
10:24:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY.
BREA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 51 IS REZ-26-20, THIS ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR REZONING
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4706, 4708, 4710 WEST McELROY
AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 75 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY 75 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:24:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
I'M SORRY.
AIDE JUST TOLD ME YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 51.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
SECOND VIERA.
AYES HAVE IT.
10:25:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAYBE WE CAN GET HER A MICROPHONE, IF WE
CAN.
10:26:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
IF YOU WOULD START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:26:19AM >> MY NAME IS LINDA ERICKSON.
I LIVE AT 4705 WEST PAUL, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE
HOUSES, THE TOWN HOUSES THEY WANT TO BUILD.
AND WE FLOOD.
A RAIN, WE FLOOD, THE BACKYARD.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT MORE FLOODING BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH
IT WITH HELENE.
MY WHOLE HOUSE WAS DESTROYED.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THE WATER IS GOING TO COME IN MY
BACKYARD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY NOW
THAT I'M A WIDOW.
IF THE WATER COMES, I MEAN, IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD AS MUCH
AS ALMOST A FOOT OF WATER IN THE BACKYARD JUST FROM RAIN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SEVEN TOWN HOUSES IS GOING TO DO AND A
TWO-STORY ONE BEHIND ME.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
10:27:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE FOR REBUTTAL.
10:27:19AM >> HE'S HERE.
10:27:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE'S NOT IN THE -- IS THE -- HAS THE
APPLICANT ARRIVED IN CITY COUNCIL?
ARE YOU HERE?
10:27:34AM >> I COULDN'T GET MY VIDEO TO WORK LAST TIME.
HE TALKED SO FAST I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND A WORD HE WAS
SAYING.
10:27:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU THE APPLICANT?
10:27:43AM >> [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
10:27:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE NOT THE APPLICANT.
HE'S COMING THROUGH SECURITY.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
ONCE YOUR TIME IS OVER, YOU ARE OVER AND THE APPLICANT WILL
COME UP AND HAVE REBUTTAL.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
10:28:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAYBE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE
APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE OR THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'VE HEARD WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.
10:28:17AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:28:18AM >> I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT A TWO-STORY BUILDING GOING BEHIND
ME.
THE FLOODING IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.
10:28:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
10:28:34AM >> WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO GO?
10:28:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:29:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
AS I SAID DURING THE FIRST HEARING, THIS IS A PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
BUT WITH THE TOWN HOUSES THAT ARE OVER 50% IMPERMEABLE
SURFACE.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE,
NOT NECESSARILY THIS PROPERTY ISSUE.
ALL OF THESE HOUSES FLOODED DURING THE HURRICANE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD UP ALL THESE PROPERTIES OVER 50%
AND THEN LIKE THIS LADY SAID -- AND WHEN I MET WITH THE
PEOPLE WHO PROPOSED THIS TWO YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
IT WAS THE SAME GUY OR NOT.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS.
BE HONEST WITH YOU, I TOLD THEM YOU HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR
NEIGHBORS.
YOU NEED TO GO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS EVER A PUBLIC MEETING ABOUT IT.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S NOT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT
ARE LESS THAN 50%.
IT'S THAT WE ALLOW SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH ARE
DUPLEXES, TO GO OVER THE 50% MARK.
THEY PUT A BATHTUB IN THE BACKYARD TO HOLD THE WATER, THAT'S
NOT GOING TO CURE THIS LADY'S ISSUE.
THIS IS REALITY.
ALL OF THAT PROPERTY FLOODED.
YOU CAN'T BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SELLING THIS.
WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS MITIGATE FOR THE COASTAL AREA ACTION
PLAN WHICH WAS MENTIONED IN TODAY'S AGENDA.
THE COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN SAID THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE
BUILDING WITH FILL.
WE SHOULD NOT BE GOING OVER 50% IMPERMEABLE SURFACE.
WHY IS IT WE KEEP APPROVING PROJECTS THAT GO AGAINST WHAT
FEMA SAYS IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY?
THESE HOMES FLOODED.
SO MAKING A DECISION TODAY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO
MAKE THIS LADY'S HOUSE FLOOD WORSE IS IRRESPONSIBLE AT BEST.
THANK YOU.
10:30:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
YES, SIR.
COME TO THE PODIUM.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:30:57AM >> MY NAME IS EDWIN CLAYTON.
THE PROPERTY IS MY PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN QUESTION
HERE.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 60 YEARS -- ACTUALLY, 64 YEARS.
THE WATER DOES NOT -- WATER RUNS OFF.
LINDA, I HELPED HER OUT AT HER HOUSE.
BROUGHT IN FILL DIRT.
HER BACKYARD RUNS INTO MY YARD AND THEN RUNS TO THE DITCHES.
WHEN IT RAINS, IT RUNS PRETTY EASY.
SHE HAD A POOL PUT BACK IN HER HOUSE YEARS AGO, WHICH
PREVENTS THE WATER FROM HER YARD RUNNING TO HER DITCHES IN
HER FRONT YARD.
IT BASICALLY RUNS THROUGH MY YARD.
THE FLOOD, THAT WAS HELENE.
THAT WAS A TIDAL SURGE.
IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT WENT ON.
IT WAS LIKE A NINE FOOT TIDAL SURGE.
I GOT FLOODED.
ALL MY HOUSES GOT FLOODED.
I HAD 13 INCHES OF WATER IN ALL MY HOUSES.
THAT'S THE REASON I'M SELLING TO A DEVELOPER SO A DEVELOPER
CAN COME IN, BUILD STUFF THERE THAT MEETS ALL THE CODES.
MY HOUSES WERE BUILT IN 1956.
THEY DON'T MEET ANY OF THE CURRENT CODES AT ALL, ZERO.
BY BUILDING SOMETHING NEW THERE, IT WILL UPGRADE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHOEVER MOVES THERE WILL HAVE A PEACE OF MIND
BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR HOUSE BEING
FLOODED.
THANK YOU.
10:32:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
APPLICANT REBUTTAL?
10:32:24AM >> ALEX RIOS WITH RIOS ARCHITECTURE.
I DID WORK WITH STAFF DILIGENTLY ON PROPOSING AN APPROACH TO
STORMWATER AS SHOWN ON OUR SITE PLAN.
THERE IS A TABLE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT THAT SHOWS PERVIOUS AND
IMPERVIOUS CALCULATIONS.
WE HAVE SO MUCH GREENSPACE THAT WE CAN DO ON-SITE AND
SURFACE RETENTION ON THE PROPERTY.
ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, WE DO HAVE A NOTE TO CALL OUT
FOR LANDSCAPING, WHICH OVER TIME WILL EVENTUALLY SERVE AS A
BUFFER FOR SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH STORMWATER DRAINING
ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND SERVE AS ATTEMPT FOR PRIVACY.
10:33:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAD DISCUSSED THE STORMWATER AND RUNOFF
DURING THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT?
10:33:08AM >> WE DID GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, YES, I THINK AT THAT
POINT.
10:33:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION.
ASKED AND ANSWERED.
VERY GOOD.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:33:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST BEEN THINKING MORE AND MORE --
10:33:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT A QUESTION?
BEFORE WE CLOSE IT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION.
10:33:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING
AND I'LL MAKE MOTIONS THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE AND I DON'T
CARE.
10:33:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHO IS THE ATTORNEY?
MS. WELLS BACK THERE?
I KNOW WE'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, BUT JUST FOR THE
RECORD, CAN THAT KIND OF TESTIMONY IN REGARD TO STORMWATER,
CAN THAT BE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ON A CASE LIKE
THIS?
10:33:59AM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT FACTUAL TESTIMONY BY NEIGHBORS IS
CONSIDERED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU HEARD AND
WHETHER IT WAS FACTUAL IN NATURE AND THEN HOW IT RELATES TO
THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE FOR APPROVAL OF A REZONING
APPLICATION.
10:34:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I'M SORRY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
REALLY I'M QUESTIONING MYSELF.
THE QUESTION IS THIS.
WHAT IF THIS COUNCIL APPROVES ANYTHING THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT
MAY FLOOD WITHOUT REALIZING THAT IT DOES FLOOD, DOES A
PROPERTY OWNER WHO BUYS THE BUILDING, THAT PERSON COULD BE
LIABLE FOR SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY PASSED THAT THEY KNEW AT
THE TIME THEY WERE BUYING THAT THEY COULD FLOOD?
ANYBODY CAN FILE A LAWSUIT.
10:35:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHO IS THAT QUESTION POISED TO?
10:35:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANYBODY, DEVELOPER, LAWYER, ANYBODY WHO
WANTS TO ANSWER IT.
10:35:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. WELLS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME --
10:35:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION.
IT IS AN ASSUMPTION OF FACT THAT COULD HAPPEN, MAY HAPPEN --
10:35:19AM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FOR ME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
10:35:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND HYPOTHETICALS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:35:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
I GOT A QUESTION.
THIS ISN'T FOR MS. WELLS.
IT'S MORE OF WE HAVE THIS NICE LADY COME BEFORE US WITH WHAT
IS A VERY SINCERE QUESTION.
YOU ARE AS SINCERE AS YOU GET.
GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT AND SHARING THAT YOU ARE A WIDOW AND
EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE APPLICANT SEEMS LIKE A VERY NICE GENTLEMAN.
I REMEMBER YOU FROM LAST TIME.
IS THERE A SPACE WHERE THIS -- WE CAN HAVE FOR PURPOSES OF
GIVING THIS NICE LADY RESPECT, PUSH THIS OFF A WEEK SO THAT
THESE FOLKS CAN TALK, INCLUDING WITH STAFF, BECAUSE THIS WAS
APPROVED BY STORMWATER, ET CETERA.
JUST TO GIVE THE PEOPLE HERE A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT?
HAD.
10:36:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS WHAT
THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BE CONSIDERING TODAY?
10:36:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I INTEND TO PROBABLY VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I
THINK THERE IS A RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS.
10:36:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I RECALL THIS MATTER CORRECTLY -- THE
ANSWER IS YOU HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY AND THE CHAIR TOLD YOU
THAT.
TRIED AT THE FIRST HEARING BUT COULDN'T GET YOUR MICROPHONE
OR CAMERA ON.
SHE WAS TRYING TO BE HERE AT FIRST READING.
SHE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AT SECOND READING.
CERTAINLY, NUMBER ONE, THIS BEING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING
FOR THE PURPOSES OF YOUR CASE, IT ADDS TO IF THERE IS
COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS IF IT'S
RELEVANT AND NECESSARY TO YOUR DECISION.
BUT WITH REGARD TO CONTINUING THIS, THE ISSUE WAS THAT AT
FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THERE WAS ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THE
STORMWATER, AS COUNCIL CHAIR HAS INDICATED.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE HEARD THAT UNDER YOUR CODE, ISSUES WITH
REGARD TO STORMWATER ARE HANDLED AT THE PERMITTING STAGE.
SOMETIMES IN THIS CASE YOU HEARD TESTIMONY THAT IT IS
ADDRESSED, IF NECESSARY, ON THE SITE PLAN, AND THAT
ACCORDING TO THE TESTIMONY HAS BEEN DONE.
BUT THERE IS NO PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW
COUNCIL WITHOUT THE CONSENT OR THE DESIRE OF THE APPLICANT
TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS.
IT WOULDN'T BE JUST FOR A WEEK, FRANKLY.
BECAUSE NEXT WEEK IS CRA.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTINUED FOR A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT IF YOU WISH TO RAISE THE ISSUE AS A
REQUEST, YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
BUT THERE IS NO OBLIGATION UNDER THE CODE THAT WOULD REQUIRE
COUNCIL TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
10:38:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
WE CAN DISCUSS IT AFTER WE CLOSE.
10:38:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE MAKE A CONTINUANCE MOTION AFTER
WE CLOSE?
LET'S LEAVE IT OPEN.
10:38:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN'T CONTINUE IT UNLESS THE APPLICANT
WANTS TO DO THAT.
10:38:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET ME BRING UP MR. RIOS.
MR. RIOS, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO CONTINUING THIS FOR TWO WEEKS
CONSIDERING SHE HAS SEVERAL CONCERNS.
SHE DID TRY TO LOG IN JUST TO BE FAIR.
AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, TO BE AS RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE
AND SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE EXPLAINED OR WORKED OUT, ANY
FURTHER DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT?
10:39:10AM >> I'D HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE OWNER ON THAT.
OF COURSE, I THINK THERE IS GOOD INTENT BEHIND THE REQUEST.
I WILL SAY THAT THE OVERALL -- I UNDERSTAND THE BROADER
CONCERN OF STORMWATER.
I DO THINK THERE'S LIKE, FOR A PARTIAL TOWNHOME AND
SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREENSPACE HERE,
ALMOST 50%.
WE HAVE THE CALCULATION ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THAT SHOWS
SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS WE HAD TO BYPASS -- OR
COMPLY WITH.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE BACK.
A REAR NEIGHBOR WOULD OVER TIME -- THERE'S LESS OF A CHANCE
OF STORMWATER AFFECTING THEIR PROPERTY.
TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I'D HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT
-- OR THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
10:39:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CAN HOLD IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
10:40:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE HOLD IT AND GO BACK TO THE
PREVIOUS ONE?
10:40:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:40:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO ADD IN, I CAN'T EXACTLY COUNT
VOTES AS I'M LISTENING TO EVERYBODY.
SEEMS LIKE APPROVED ON FIRST READING, PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO
APPROVE IT, BUT THE NEIGHBOR HAS VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.
IT WOULD HELP A LOT IF YOU ALL COULD MEET WITH HER AND
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND IDEALLY WHEN IT COMES BACK --
10:40:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M GOING TO -- IS MICHELLE VAN LOAN IN
THE ROOM?
YOU ARE.
VERY GOOD.
WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THIS HEARING FOR 15 MINUTES TO GIVE THE
INTERESTED PARTIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIDEBAR OUTSIDE.
WE'LL GET A MOVE ON AND HAVE ONE MORE ISSUE.
WHEN YOU GUYS ARE DONE WITH THE SIDEBAR, IF YOU WOULD COME
BACK IN.
10:41:01AM >> THIS ISN'T MY FIRST TIME SPEAKING WITH HER.
10:41:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAVE A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND
THE PROPERTY OWNER AND CONCERNED CITIZEN.
IF YOU WOULD TAKE IT OUT INTO THE LOBBY, HAVE THAT SIDEBAR.
WHEN YOU ARE DONE, COME BACK IN, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON TO
ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY?
10:41:25AM >> OKAY.
10:41:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 49.
RECOGNIZE MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
10:41:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, CITY COUNCIL.
MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO HONOR COUNCIL
MEMBER FRANK REDDICK FOR ALL OF HIS SERVICE TO BOTH THIS
COUNCIL, THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND TO HIS COMMUNITY.
THIS IS THE SECOND READING.
WE DO HAVE MS. NELLY BRENSON TO REPRESENT THE FAMILY WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF THE HONOREE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THIS.
10:42:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE CHAIRMAN WILL STEP OUT, BEFORE THE
VICE-CHAIRMAN TAKES THE GAVEL, AS MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT
COUNCIL MEMBER REDDICK WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FRIEND TO ME,
HE WAS ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME.
WHEN I FIRST WON BACK IN 2015 AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
MY OFFICE IS ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER REDDICK'S OFFICE.
HIS DESK OR MY DESK IS HIS DESK.
I NEVER CHANGED THE FURNITURE.
I CHANGED THE FRAMES ON THE WALL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THINGS
CHANGE.
OTHER THAN THAT SAME CHAIR, SAME DESK, SAME EVERYTHING.
I DO IT JUST TO REMEMBER HIM.
KNOWING THAT HE SAT THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING BECAUSE HE WAS VERY SPECIAL
TO ME AND VERY SPECIAL TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I ATTENDED HIS FUNERAL.
I STOPPED BY REST HAVEN NOT TOO LONG AGO TO PAY MY RESPECTS
AND ANOTHER COLLEAGUE, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER HARRY COHEN, WE
ALL SERVED TOGETHER.
HE WAS ASKING ME SO HE COULD PAY HIS RESPECTS.
WE ALWAYS REMEMBER HIM.
AND THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION THAT WE CAN DO TO
REMEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER REDDICK WHO DID SO MUCH WITH SICKLE
CELL, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER STORY BEFORE I PASS THE GAVEL.
COUNCIL MEMBER REDDICK AND I WERE AT A CANDIDATE FORUM IN
2011 BECAUSE I RAN THE FIRST TIME BUT I DIDN'T WIN.
WE WERE IN PALMETTO BEACH.
YBOR CITY, PALMETTO BEACH, LIKE A JOINT CANDIDATE FORUM.
HE TELLS ME, WE HAVE 25 CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES.
HE GOES, I'M THE ONLY CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE THAT'S
PRESIDENT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND THAT INSPIRED ME TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION IN WEST TAMPA.
I LATER BECAME PRESIDENT.
HE'S TOUCHED A LOT OF LIVES.
TOUCHED MY LIFE SIGNIFICANTLY, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HIM.
I WILL PASS THE GAVEL.
THERE YOU GO.
10:43:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
WHO WAS NEXT?
10:44:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST ON MR. REDDICK, IF I MAY --
10:44:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE
PRESENTATION?
10:44:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL WAIT.
10:44:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:44:17AM >> I AM NELLY BRENSON, COUSIN OF FORMER COUNCILMAN FRANK A.
REDDICK, STANDING WITH OTHER COUSINS, LOUIS AND BEV BRENSON
AND RICK GRAVES AND NORTH VIEW HILLS COMMUNITY MEMBERS
CHERYL ANN LEVY ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
ON BEHALF OF MR. REDDICK'S FAMILY, NORTH VIEW HILLS
COMMUNITY, FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES, WE WISH TO THANK THE
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DIRECTOR MS. MICHELLE VAN
LOAN AND STAFF FOR APPROVING THE NAMING OF THE ACTIVITY
CENTER BUILDING AT WILLIAMS PARK AFTER MR. REDDICK.
THERE'S NO GREATER OBSTACLE, TRUSTING FOR SOMETHING TO TURN
UP INSTEAD OF GOING TO WORK AND TURNING UP SOMETHING.
THAT'S WHAT FRANK DID.
HE TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN STRIVING WHO HELP IMPLEMENT VARIOUS
IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS FOR PEOPLE
LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY OF MR. REDDICK, THANK YOU.
10:45:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:45:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN ONLY SAY THIS.
I HAD A PLEASURABLE TIME WORKING WITH HIM.
I REMEMBER ABOUT FRANK MOST, THE NICKNAME THAT I GET HIM.
ONE DAY COMING OUT OF THE OFFICE.
FRANK, YOU REMIND ME OF SOMETHING.
HE SAID WHAT.
SILENT THUNDER.
NOBODY HEARS YOU UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE BECAUSE AFTER THAT YOU
HAVE THEM.
I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH HIM.
HE WAS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING.
THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE WAS.
A LOVING GUY THAT LOVED EVERYBODY.
HE DID VERY WELL FOR WHAT HE DID FOR THE COMMUNITY EVERY
SINGLE DAY.
I WAS HONORED TO SIT NEXT TO HIM AND HAVE THE OFFICE CLOSE
TO HIM.
10:46:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:46:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, IT IS A BIG LOSS NOT TO HAVE HIM
AROUND ANYMORE.
AS AN ACTIVIST BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL, HE WAS A MENTOR.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ISSUES ALL THE TIME.
I WAS PROUD TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY EFFORT TO PUSH TO
GET HIM TO BECOME CHAIR.
WAS HE THREE TIMES CHAIR?
I CAN'T REMEMBER.
TWICE.
HE DID A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
HE ALWAYS STOOD UP FOR WHAT HE BELIEVED IN.
THERE WERE A LOT OF BIG FIGHTS IN THE COMMUNITY, WITHOUT
GOING INTO THE DETAILS, A LOT OF BIG FIGHTS IN THE COMMUNITY
WHERE HE STOOD UP FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT.
WE IN THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZED FOLKS TO HELP SUPPORT HIM.
HE WAS ALWAYS ON THE SIDE OF RIGHT.
AND THEN WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL, HE WOULD REGULARLY CALL ME
WITH HIS OPINIONS, TOO.
I APPRECIATED IT BECAUSE SOMETIMES HE WOULD GIVE ME INSIGHTS
DIDN'T HAVE.
SOMETIMES TELL ME I DID SOMETHING WRONG WHICH I APPRECIATE
OR SOMETHING HE DISAGREED WITH.
SOMETIMES HE CALLED JUST TO TALK.
I APPRECIATE THE OTHER WAY, TOO, WHERE I COULD CALL AND GET
HIS ADVICE BECAUSE OF HIS TENURE AND WISDOM, HE KNEW A LOT
OF THINGS THAT WE NEWBIES DIDN'T KNOW.
EVEN WHEN HIS HEALTH WAS DECLINING, HE STILL WOULD PICK UP
MY CALL AND SOMETIMES CALL ME.
I APPRECIATE HIM AND MISS HIM SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WORKING AT NAMING SOMETHING AFTER
HIM.
THANK YOU.
10:47:37AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I FEEL LIKE THE THEME FOR TODAY IS HONORING
PEOPLE, GREAT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT GAVE ME GREAT PLEASURE TO DO THIS MOTION, BUT ALSO TO
CONTINUE MR. FRANK REDDICK'S LEGACY.
I THINK YOU CAN TELL A LOT ABOUT A PERSON BY WHAT PEOPLE SAY
ABOUT THEM.
AS YOU CAN HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, HE WAS A
GREAT MAN AND THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR GRATITUDE FOR
EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS COMMUNITY CENTER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
10:48:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:48:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY, INCLUDING NAACP UNSUNG HERO,
VIVIAN KITCHEN.
CAN'T WAIT FOR SATURDAY.
I'M GLAD THIS IS COMING FORWARD.
COUNCILMAN REDDICK, I SERVED WITH HIM ABOUT TWO YEARS.
A STORY THAT STICKS OUT WITH ME, WE WERE GETTING BRIEFED ON
THE FERRY, INTERBAY FERRY.
WE HAD A PERSON WHO WAS HERE PRESENTING, FORGOT WHO IT WAS.
COUNCILMAN REDDICK SAYS, HOW MUCH PROMOTION HAVE YOU DONE
FOR THE FERRY IN EAST TAMPA?
HOW MANY BLACK FOLKS RIDE THE FERRY?
HE ASKED THAT.
THE GUY WAS LIKE -- YOU KNOW.
IT KIND OF CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE FERRY A LITTLE BY
HIM ASKING THAT QUESTION.
I REMEMBER ANOTHER TIME, HE HAD HIS OPINIONS ON YBOR CITY,
THE ROOSTERS, THE CHICKENS, ALL THAT STUFF.
AND WE HAD A STAFF BRIEFING ON IT.
SOMETIMES YOU SAY THINGS.
THE MINUTE YOU SAY THINGS, WHY DID I SAY THAT?
I SAID, WHY DON'T WE DO A WORKSHOP.
A WORKSHOP ON CHICKENS, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, LUIS?
HE WAS A NICE GENTLEMAN.
GLAD TO SEE THIS THROUGH.
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU.
10:49:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN REDDICK WAS A FRIEND OF MINE.
SOMETIMES HE WASN'T SO NICE.
HE WAS A FIGHTER.
HE BIT ON TO AN ISSUE AND WOULDN'T LET GO.
HE MADE SURE THAT HE WAS FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE HE
REPRESENTED AND FIGHTING FOR THE CITY VALUES HE REPRESENTED.
HE REALLY TRULY WAS A ROLE MODEL.
AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE MS. KITCHEN.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:49:58AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE HN 26-26534, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE
NAMING OF THE ACTIVITY CENTER AT WILLIAMS PARK LOCATED AT
4362 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR FRANK
A. REDDICK, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:50:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:50:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:50:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:50:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:50:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:50:36AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
10:50:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:50:39AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:51:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S MOVE ON TO 52.
ITEM NUMBER 52, IS THERE STAFF?
10:51:57AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 52 IS REZ-26-23.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 104
SOUTH TAMPANIA AVENUE AND 2522 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE AND BUSINESS
PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:52:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
I SAW INDIVIDUALS HAVE COME IN SINCE WE SWORE PEOPLE IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU
HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.
IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND?
ANYBODY NOT SWORN?
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:52:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
10:52:54AM >> CLAY MATTHEWS, 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SUITE 850 HERE IF
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
OTHERWISE, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL ON SECOND
READING.
10:53:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM
52?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE ABSENT AT FIRST VOTE.
DID YOU REVIEW THE RECORD?
10:53:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DID I NOT.
CAN WE HAVE A 20 MINUTE CONTINUANCE?
JUST JOKING.
I DID.
OF COURSE.
OH, YEAH.
10:53:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ
ITEM 52?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
10:53:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM 52, FILE REZ-26-23, ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY -- ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 104 SOUTH TAMPANIA AVENUE AND 2522 WEST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, MEDICAL OFFICE,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:54:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:54:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:54:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:54:09AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
10:54:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:54:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:54:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:54:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:54:14AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:54:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
53.
10:54:18AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 53 IS REZ-26-34, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4400, 4410, AND 4488 WEST BOY SCOUT
BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR BANK WITH DRIVE-THROUGH, OFFICE, BUSINESS
PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, HOTEL WITH ACCESSORY COMMERCIAL,
RESTAURANT, AND BAR LOUNGE.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:54:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS, HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
10:54:57AM >> BENJAMIN STRANZL FOR THE APPLICANT.
HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OTHERWISE, WE WOULD REQUEST APPROVAL.
10:55:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:55:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION.
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4410,
4400, 4488 WEST BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, BAR/LOUNGE, BANK DRIVE-IN, HOTEL, OFFICE,
RESTAURANT, AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL, CG USES, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:55:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:55:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:55:44AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
10:55:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:55:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:55:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:55:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:55:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:55:52AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:55:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
54.
CONGRATULATIONS.
10:55:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 54 IS REZ-26-61.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT
205 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY
TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED
TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:56:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
10:56:27AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
THIS WAS THE ONE SITE PLAN THAT YOU REQUESTED THAT THE
DRIVEWAY LENGTH BE LENGTHENED FROM 18 TO 20 FEET.
THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND CERTIFIED BY THE CITY STAFF.
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
10:56:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:57:02AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE REZ-26-61, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
A SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 205 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE, IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED AND SEMI DETACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:57:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:57:29AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
10:57:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:57:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:57:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:57:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:57:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:57:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:57:36AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:57:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU MOVE THE
RESOLUTION?
10:57:42AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:57:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG TO MOVE THE
RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH 54.
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
55.
10:57:51AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:57:54AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
REZ-26-64, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6200 AND
6202 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, 6206 SOUTH 6th STREET, 6205 AND
6207 SOUTH MARTINDALE AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, HOP ALONG.
10:58:27AM >> MATT NEWTON, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON BEHALF OF THE
PETITIONER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:58:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-26-64, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6200 AND 6202 INTERBAY BOULEVARD,
6206 SOUTH 6th STREET AND 6205 AND 6207 SOUTH MARTINDALE
AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:59:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:59:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:59:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:59:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:59:26AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
10:59:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:59:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:59:29AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:59:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
56.
10:59:33AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:59:35AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
56 IS REZ-26-66, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2910 EAST CLARK STREET.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:59:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:00:01AM >> MATON KLEFF, APPLICANT AND OWNER, HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
11:00:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MANISCALCO AND SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:00:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 2910 EAST CLARK STREET IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIPLE
FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:00:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:00:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:00:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:00:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:00:39AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:00:41AM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
11:00:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:00:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:00:44AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT
VOTE.
11:00:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW IS THE PROGRESS OUTSIDE?
57.
11:01:13AM >> MELANIE CALLOWAY, MOBILITY.
I'M HERE FOR THE BRICK STREET REMOVAL.
I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU IN OCTOBER OF 2024 FOR OUR FIRST BLOCK
OF TWIGGS STREET BETWEEN ASHLEY AND TAMPA.
THIS PART WILL BE FROM TAMPA TO FLORIDA.
I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON TWIGGS.
TWIGGS STREET WILL REMAIN BRICK.
IT WILL REMAIN BRICK ALL THE WAY FROM ASHLEY ALL THE WAY TO
FLORIDA.
THE WALL WILL REMAIN BRICK.
WE'RE REMOVING BRICK HERE.
THIS BLOCK WE'RE REMOVING SOME BRICK HERE WHERE THE CURRENT
PARKING SPACES ARE.
WE'RE GOING TO WIDEN THAT SIDEWALK, MAKE IT LARGER.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE ON-STREET SPACES
BOTH ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE.
THE NEXT BLOCK IS THE BLOCK BETWEEN FRANKLIN AND FLORIDA.
THAT WILL BE, AGAIN, THE BRICK STREET WILL REMAIN BRICK BUT
THE PARKING ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE AS WELL AS THERE'S
GOING TO BE NOW A CYCLE TRACK THAT WILL RUN ALL THE WAY TO
NEBRASKA.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
I HAVE RILEY PARK WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS FOR
MOBILITY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:02:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
WE ALREADY HEARD THIS.
THIS IS 2.0.
THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
WE'LL COME BACK WITH SECOND READING FOR RESOLUTION.
11:02:49AM >> NO.
IT'S READY.
IT'S ONLY ONE READING.
11:02:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO?
11:02:58AM >> YES, JUST APPROVAL.
11:02:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE AN ASSOCIATED RESOLUTION?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE.
11:03:11AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:03:12AM >> SECOND.
11:03:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WHAT DO WE APPROVE IF THERE'S NO RESOLUTION?
MOTION TO APPROVE --
11:03:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
11:03:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'RE BACK TO ITEM -- IS MR. RIOS HERE?
MR. SHELBY, REFERENCE OUR CONVERSATION, I WOULD LIKE TO YOU
RECAPTURE THAT.
IF I NEED TO FILL IN THE BLANKS, I WILL.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS ONLY PRESENT FOR A PORTION OF THE
HEARING.
SINCE SHE DID NOT HEAR ALL THE EVIDENCE, SHE IS GOING TO
STEP OUT AND BE ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:04:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU WANT TO RECAP WHAT THE VOTE WAS AT
FIRST READING?
11:04:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 51, THIS HEARING WAS HELD.
IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO MOVE TO SECOND READING.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY.
WERE THERE ANY WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ITEM?
11:04:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
11:04:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS STARING OVER AT STAFF.
MS. DIXON, ANY WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH 51?
11:04:32AM >>BRIA DIXON:
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS ASSOCIATED FOR THIS
REQUEST.
11:04:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
11:04:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A
MISUNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL HAD THE AUTHORITY TO INITIATE
A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS.
AFTER DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO SHARE IN THE
DISCUSSION, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THERE WAS A CONFUSION.
I JUST WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR TO COUNCIL THAT THE CASE IS
READY TO BE HEARD.
THERE HAS BEEN TESTIMONY.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH
REGARD TO STAFF, STAFF'S ROLE IN THIS CASE IS COMPLETE.
FOR THEM TO TAKE A CONTINUANCE FOR THE PURPOSE TO TALK WITH
STAFF IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THIS CASE HAS BEEN THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THEY HAVE GENERATED A REPORT.
THEY HAVE ISSUED THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE AN APPROPRIATE PURPOSE FOR A
CONTINUANCE.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT IS
NOT A CODE REQUIREMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME AT SECOND
READING BECAUSE OF WHATEVER TESTIMONY WAS TAKEN THAT A
CONTINUANCE WOULD NECESSARILY BE IN ORDER.
11:05:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR THE OWNER AND
CONCERNED CITIZEN ON THIS ISSUE, SO WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS
WE HAD A FIRST READING WHERE WE HEARD COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
THIS, OF COURSE, IS THE SECOND.
WE HEARD YOUR EVIDENCE TODAY THAT YOU PROVIDED AS AN
ADJACENT HOMEOWNER.
WE TAKE ALL OF THAT EVIDENCE AND TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT AND WE
MOVE FORWARD ON A DECISION BASED ON THAT.
WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE WE HAD ON THE FIRST READING, THE
DECISION WAS UNANIMOUS.
WE WOULD CALL FOR A VOTE TODAY.
WOULD YOU -- PETITIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING?
11:06:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE PETITIONER.
11:06:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
GO AHEAD.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE DEFERENCE WITH THE DISABILITY, YES.
11:06:33AM >> I SPOKE WITH THIS GENTLEMAN AND HE ASSURED ME ONLY A
ONE-STORY HOUSE BEHIND ME.
AND THAT'S A TWO-STORY HOUSE BEHIND ME, WHICH MAKES ME
HAPPY.
HE SAID THAT THE ELEVATION -- THE FOUNDATION IS GOING TO
START AT 6 FEET, SO THAT WILL BE ABOVE MINE, I KNOW THAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS -- [INAUDIBLE] -- FEET.
THAT MAKES ME HAPPY.
HE ALSO SAID THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THE DRAIN -- THE
STORMWATER.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY WOULD RECTIFY IT.
11:07:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. RIOS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE
PODIUM, PLEASE?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR THE RECORD,
PLEASE?
11:07:22AM >> SURE.
JUST FOR CONTEXT, HER PROPERTY IS VERY CLOSE, NOT QUITE IN
ALIGNMENT BUT VERY CLOSE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED
SEVEN UNITS.
IT IS NOT ENTIRELY THE SINGLE STORY.
MORE LIKE HALF AND HALF.
IF YOU ARE STANDING IN HER BACKYARD, YOU WOULD SEE A SINGLE
STORY ON THE RIGHT.
YOU WOULD SEE A TWO-STORY ON THE LEFT, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT
PORTION THERE.
WITH THE STORMWATER, YES, IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO COMPLY
WITH CODE.
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS FOR STORMWATER HAVE TO FULLY COMPLY
WITH CODE.
AGAIN, YES, THERE ARE TOWNHOMES ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT,
AGAIN, THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A TRADITIONAL HIGH
DENSITY TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.
THE OVERALL SITE IS LESS THAN 50% HARD SCAPE.
11:08:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM THE
TESTIMONY THAT WAS JUST PROVIDED?
11:08:20AM >> I'M SORRY.
I CAN'T HEAR.
I SEE THE CAPTIONING BUT DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION.
11:08:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE QUESTION WAS, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE
TESTIMONY PROVIDED, TWO ASSERTIONS THAT WERE MADE.
ONE ABOUT THE LAYOUT OF THE HOMES, THE TWO-STORY VERSUS THE
CONCERNED CITIZEN AND HER HOME.
WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BEHIND HER THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE
BASICALLY HALF AND HALF.
HALF A SINGLE STORY, HALF A TWO STORY.
AND THAT STORMWATER WOULD BE DEALT WITH.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT.
STORMWATER IS DEALT WITH HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.
11:08:54AM >>BRIA DIXON:
IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN FOR ONE MOMENT.
11:08:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, PLEASE.
11:08:57AM >>BRIA DIXON:
HERE IS THE MAP OF THE SUBJECT PARCELS.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH HOUSE THE APPLICANT -- EASTERN
SIDE, MAYBE IT'S THIS ONE HERE.
11:09:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
4705 IS YOUR HOME -- 4705 PAUL.
CAN YOU TELL WHAT THE ADDRESSES ARE ON THERE?
I CAN'T READ THEM.
11:09:19AM >>BRIA DIXON:
ONE SECOND.
I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MAP.
THE PARCELS HERE IN RED, SUBJECT PROPERTY 4704 PAUL --
11:09:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOUTH SIDE.
MA'AM, WHICH HOME IS YOURS?
11:09:44AM >> SHOULD BE THIRD FROM THE RIGHT.
11:09:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIRD FROM THE RIGHT.
THE ONE WITH SIDEWALK AND DRIVEWAY, THE CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S YOUR PARCEL.
MR. RIOS, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE
DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BEHIND?
11:10:05AM >> THERE ARE THREE PARCELS HIGHLIGHTED.
THE RIGHT ONE IS AROUND 113 FEET WIDE.
THE SINGLE STORY HOME WILL TAKE UP THE RIGHT 65 FEET OF THAT
ONE.
AND THEN ADJACENT TO THAT IS A 50-FOOT WIDE LOT WITH A
TWO-STORY STRUCTURE.
YOU CAN SEE BOTH FROM THERE.
11:10:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
IS EVERYBODY SATISFIED AND EVERYBODY HAPPY?
THIS IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL, BUT, YES, GO AHEAD.
11:10:40AM >> STORMWATER FOR ALL SEVENS, NOT JUST BEHIND MINE.
11:10:44AM >> YES, I HAVE TO TREAT STORMWATER FOR THE ENTIRE SITE FOR
ALL SEVEN UNITS, NOT JUST --
11:10:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:11:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 51, REZ 26-20, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
4706, 4708, 4710 WEST McELROY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 75, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO
PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
AND SEMI DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:11:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:11:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:11:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:11:40AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:11:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:11:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:11:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:11:43AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK ABSENT AT
VOTE.
11:11:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S MOVE ON TO 58.
11:11:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A
FRANCHISE TO ROBLES PARK, LLC, ROBLES PARK VILLAGE
DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC AND RPV PARCEL D, L.P.
CITY CODE PROHIBITS ANY PERSON TO USE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
FOR SERVICES UNLESS THEY HAVE BEEN GRANTED A FRANCHISE.
FOR THE ROBLES PARK AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS
NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THERE IS A STORMWATER PIPE THAT GOES
FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY ACROSS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THEIR
PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THIS REALLY ISN'T WHAT YOU SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FRANCHISE
AGREEMENTS.
USUALLY THIS IS FOR SOMEBODY LIKE VERIZON OR FRONTIER.
HOWEVER, THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, IT MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENT
THERE BE A FRANCHISE.
THIS WOULD GRANT ROBLES A FRANCHISE TO HAVE THE STORMWATER
PIPE ACROSS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEY WOULD PAY A FRANCHISE
FEE TO THE CITY OF $2500 A YEAR FOR 20 YEARS.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
DEVELOPER'S COUNSEL IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:12:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS, PLEASE?
11:13:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM 58, DA 26-26530, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
GRANTING TO ROBLES PARK, LLC, ROBLES PARK VILLAGE
DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC, RPV PARCEL D, L.P., ITS SUCCESSORS
AND ASSIGNS, A NONEXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE TO USE A PORTION OF
NORTH AVON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, TO CONSTRUCT, ACCESS
AND MAINTAIN STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS AND PRESCRIBING THE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH SAID NONEXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE
MAY BE EXERCISED, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:13:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
WE'LL GO TO OFF AGENDA ITEM PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:14:05AM >>THE CLERK:
SECOND HEARING AND ADOPTION DATE HELD ON
OCTOBER 15, 2026 AT 10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315
EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:14:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SITTING THERE SO QUIETLY, I FORGOT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR OFF AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT
CONCERNING CITY OF TAMPA BUSINESS.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO OFF AGENDA ITEMS, YOUR NAME
SHOULD APPEAR ON THIS LIST.
I'LL READ THE FIRST FEW NAMES SO YOU CAN BE QUEUED UP.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, MR. HAYS, ASHLEY MORROW.
REMEMBER, THIS IS OFF AGENDA ITEMS BUT RELATED TO CITY
COUNCIL BUSINESS.
MS. POYNOR.
11:14:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHILE I GET MY DUCKS IN A ROW,
LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE IS OCTOBER 5 AND YOU CAN
REGISTER ONLINE.
I WANT TO TALK JUST FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES ABOUT THIS LIST.
THIS IS THE CIP WHICH STANDS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS LIST IS FOR PARKS AND REC ONLY.
ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING THAT STARTS -- WAIT, SALINAS PARK IS ON
THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT STARTS WITH AN S ON THERE.
I FOUND THIS NIFTY PIECE OF INFORMATION ABOUT SWANN PARK
IMPROVEMENTS.
I REALLY WANT TO YOU PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THIS LITTLE
MAP RIGHT HERE.
HOPEFULLY IT WILL CLEAR UP.
NOTICE THIS IS A PARK THAT IS CLOSE TO THE EXPRESSWAY IN
BETWEEN THE NEW ALDI AND NEW EXPRESSWAY.
WHAT'S FUNNY IS THAT WHEN I GOOGLE SWANN PARK THIS MORNING,
THERE'S ALREADY A SWANN PARK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT'S
OVER HERE IN BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
BEACH PARK.
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS ONE.
WHERE DID THIS THING COME FROM?
WHY IS IT HERE?
WHY HAVE NEIGHBORS NOT BEEN CONSULTED ABOUT IT?
WHY IS IT BEING DISCUSSED?
I THINK IT'S 6 TO $8 MILLION.
ALSO, THE FIRST LIST THAT I SAW OF ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL
FOR THIS PARK.
NOW, MIND YOU, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY THAT THIS AREA
HAS NOT GOTTEN ANY FUNDING BECAUSE KATE JACKSON'S PLAYGROUND
WAS COMPLETELY REDONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS IS THE SECOND LIST.
I RECEIVED A LIST LAST WEEK THAT HAD A COUPLE OF SULPHUR
SPRINGS PROJECTS ON IT, AND EVERYBODY WENT BACK PADDLING
AND, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM SULPHUR
SPRINGS ANYMORE.
NOW WE HAVE THIS NEW PARK ON SWANN CALLED SWANN PARK.
WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS?
WHY ARE WE NAMING PARKS THAT ARE ALREADY NAMED PARKS?
BUT I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS AND IT MAKES NO SENSE.
DOCK REPLACEMENT.
DON'T YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE A SAFETY ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE
ADDRESSED BEFORE WE BUILD SOMETHING NEW?
OH, RESTROOMS AND STORAGE.
MY GOODNESS.
WE NEED TO BE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON RESTROOMS AT PARKS THAT
ALREADY EXIST.
WE'VE GOT -- DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THESE VETERAN
MEMORIALS.
I LIVE WITH A VETERAN AND STILL HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH THEM.
$300,000 THAT YOU SPENT ON THE ONE IN PORT TAMPA WAS BS AT
BEST.
WELLS WOOD CHURCH, WHICH HAS BEEN PROMISED FOR YEARS.
PLAYGROUND SURFACING TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH SWANN PARK.
THIS IS SHADY AF.
IT IS SHADY.
WE ALL KNOW IT IS SHADY.
IF IT WASN'T, GUESS WHAT, IT WOULD BE ON THIS LIST RIGHT
HERE.
I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS SHOWING UP OUT OF NOWHERE.
WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
PLEASE EXPLAIN IT?
PLEASE ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
ASK SOMEBODY TO COME AND PRESENT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING
FROM.
ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
11:18:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAIRO, RUFF-RUFF.
11:18:07AM >> HELLO.
GRAND RISING.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL WOMEN, CITY COUNCIL MEN.
MR. HAYES, PRESIDENT OF CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MS. HURTAK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR JOURNEY AND BEING
COURAGEOUS AND SO FORTH AND WITH ALLOWING THIS WHOLE MORNING
HAS BEEN POSITIVE.
I DON'T WANT TO GET, TRIP OVER MY WORDS, BUT THERE WAS AN
INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ROUGHLY TWO WEEKS AGO.
WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT HAS HAPPENED TODAY, I COULD NOT SEE
WHAT INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE MORE THAN LIKELY BE SUBJECTED
TO.
IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THIS IS A PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND FEEL
SAFE.
I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS THAT HAPPENED.
BUT FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO BE A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT MR. WARREN SAPP.
FOR HIM TO BE ARROGANT AND AT THE SAME TIME HE SHOULD NOT BE
IGNORANT, IT SHOWS THAT OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD DO BETTER AND
I'M AWARE, THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, MORE THAN LIKELY FRIVOLOUS
LAWSUIT THAT HE FILED AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL
PROBABLY BE MET WITH A DISMISSAL DUE TO THE FACT OF THIS
PLACE HAS REGULATIONS AND IT'S TO BE A PEACEFUL PLACE FOR
THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND NOT FEAR
ANYTHING.
I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL DISAGREE ABOUT MY
REMARKS, BUT THERE'S VIDEOS OUT THERE, FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO
BE FLICKING OFF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SO FORTH IS JUST
DISTASTEFUL.
FOR HIS STATURE, FOR HIS -- BUT HE HAS TO OFFER IS VERY
CONFUSING.
LET ALONE WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE WERE
ABLE TO DO THIS WEEKEND AT CURTIS HIXON PARK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE GLAZER CHILDREN'S MUSEUM.
THIS WAS THEIR 16th BIRTHDAY BASH.
WE PARTICIPATED IN FOUR OF THEM AND THROUGH JUST LONG HARD
WORK, PERSEVERANCE AND DEDICATION, THEY ALLOWED US TO BE A
MAIN ATTRACTION.
HERE IS A 22 SECOND CLIP OF JUST SOME FUN ACTIVITIES WITH
THE CHILDREN.
THAT WAS JUST AN ACTIVITY.
HE WAS OVER THERE.
HE WASN'T PLAYING.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU GLAZER CHILDREN MUSEUM FOR ALLOWING US
TO BE A HIGH ATTRACTION, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
AGAIN, THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WOMEN, AND YOU ALL
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
TODAY WAS JUST A BEAUTIFUL SENTIMENT.
I DO WANT TO LEAVE WITH THIS.
MS. ASHLEY, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
I'M OUT ABOUT 20 DOLLARS RIGHT NOW.
WITH PARKING.
WORK SOME TYPE OF VOUCHER PROGRAM ACROSS THE STREET.
IS THAT THE HYATT RIGHT THERE.
11:21:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU, BUT YOUR TIME IS UP.
11:21:34AM >> I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
THANK YOU.
11:21:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BYE, CAIRO.
BYE MY FRIEND.
ASHLEY MORROW FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS.
11:21:48AM >> ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
SO WHERE WE LEFT OFF LAST TIME CLARIFIES NEGRO HOSPITAL AND
THAT AMAZING BUST EXHIBIT THAT IS ON THE RIVERWALK.
ONE OF THE CLAIMS CONNECTED TO CLARA FRY IS SHE OPERATED THE
FIRST BLACK HOSPITAL IN TAMPA.
THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT TRUE.
THERE WAS AN EARLIER HOSPITAL.
NOTICE I DID NOT SAY IT WAS TAMPA'S FIRST BLACK HOSPITAL
EITHER BECAUSE I'M STILL RESEARCHING THAT.
LET'S NOT GET STUCK ON THE WHO WAS FIRST.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE EARLIER HOSPITAL THAT EXISTED
BEFORE CLARA FRY.
THIS HOSPITAL WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A MAN BY SOMEBODY I'VE
BEEN MENTIONING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THOMAS McKNIGHT.
AS EARLY AS 1899, CLARA FRY GOT STARTED IN 1907, NEWSPAPER
REPORTS TELL US THOMAS McKNIGHT AND OTHER BLACK CITIZENS
SENT COMMUNICATION TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL STATING THAT THEY
WERE ENGAGED IN WHAT THE NEWSPAPER DESCRIBED AS A LAUDABLE
EFFORT TO ESTABLISH A CHARITABLE HOSPITAL FOR BLACK
RESIDENTS.
THEY ASKED THE CITY EITHER TO DONATE A LOT OR GIVE THEM
FAVORABLE TERMS FOR PURCHASING ONE IN THE MITCHELL
SUBDIVISION ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE TO USE AS THE HOSPITAL
SITE.
ONE COUNCILMAN, MR. HOLMES, SAID HE BELIEVES THAT COUNCIL
SHOULD BE LIBERAL WITH THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE INSTITUTION LIKE
THIS WAS BADLY NEEDED.
CHIEF HARRIS INFORMED COUNCIL THAT THE LOT THEY WERE
REQUESTING HAD ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED BY THE CITY FOR THE
PURPOSE OF A FIRE STATION.
SO THE MATTER WAS REFERRED TO THE FIRE COMMITTEE.
ABOUT A WEEK LATER, ANOTHER NEWSPAPER REPORT SAID THAT MR.
WEB RECOMMENDED THAT THE LOT REQUESTED BY THE ORGANIZATION
-- ORGANIZER OF THE KELLER HOSPITAL BE LEASED TO THEM
WITHOUT CHARGE AND THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY PREPARE THE
NECESSARY PAPER WORK.
THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH, A RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED, DONATING
THE USE OF THE CITY LOT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE AND INDIA AS THE
SITE FOR THE PROPOSED HOSPITAL FOR BLACK RESIDENTS WHILE THE
CITY RETAINED OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.
NOW WE'LL GO INTO THE 1900 JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE
STILL HAVE NOT LEFT 1800s YET.
STILL 1899.
THOMAS McKNIGHT WAS ASKING THE CITY FOR A GAS LAMP AT WHAT
WAS DESCRIBED AS THE NEW COLORED HOSPITAL AT THE CORNER OF
NEBRASKA AND INDIA STREET.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I TALKED ABOUT
TAMPA'S SMALL POX SCARE BACK IN 1899.
DURING THAT PERIOD, DOCTORS WERE DEPUTIZED TO REPORT PEOPLE
WHO REFUSED VACCINATION.
ANTI-VAXER, ROSA JACKSON, ASSAULTED BY A TAMPA POLICE
OFFICER NAMED OFFICER WOODARD.
FORGET HIS FIRST NAME RIGHT NOW.
OFFICER WOODARD WAS TALKED ABOUT BY A BLACK REPORTER IN HIS
PAPER AND THAT BLACK REPORTER WAS MURDERED IN A BAR.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK.
THANK YOU.
11:24:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY, AS ALWAYS.
MR. DOSS, FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT, FOLLOWED BY CAROLYN
QUINN.
11:25:17AM >> SURGRET DOSS, CITY BUSINESS THAT I DON'T THINK THE CITY
IS TAKING CARE OF, AND IT GOES TO 24 AND 65.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BATTLE GIANTS WITH NOMINAL
RESOURCES.
FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS, NOW ECONOMIC NECESSITY, I'VE
REPRESENTED MYSELF FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COURTHOUSES TO
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WIN BY SHOUTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU WIN WITH SWEAT EQUITY.
CHANGE DOESN'T REQUIRE VIOLENCE, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE
COMMITMENT.
TO THOSE WHO ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT
ANYBODY CAN SHOUT SAFELY FROM A BOX.
THAT AIN'T HARD TO DO.
CHANGE IS ALSO RECIPROCITY, REVOLUTION.
REVOLUTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VIOLENT.
THE BOOK SAYS WE'RE SURROUNDED BY A GREAT CLOUD OF
WITNESSES.
MY HEROES MARCH.
THEY SAT IN, THEY STOOD AT PODIUMS LIKE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
THEY WERE DEMONSTRATORS AND THEY DEMONSTRATED OFTEN AT A
GREAT COST, PERSONAL COST.
THEY DIDN'T SCREAM FROM SAFE DISTANCES.
THEY PARTICIPATED UP CLOSE.
I DECIDED TO PUT A COUPLE OF MY OWN CASES TO THE SIDE TO DO
WHAT I THINK IS A GREATER WORK.
TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS BUILDING ISN'T FOR
YOU, IT IS, PARTICULARLY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
EVERY RULE THAT TOUCHES YOUR LIVES AND YOUR CHILDREN'S LIVES
IS MADE IN A ROOM LIKE THIS, WHETHER HERE, AT THE STATE
LEVEL, OR OTHERWISE.
YOU DON'T NEED A LAW DEGREE.
YOU JUST NEED TO SIGN A DAMN SIGN-UP SHEET AND USE YOUR
THREE MINUTES.
TO YOU ALL IN OFFICE, THE TOOLS ARE ALREADY THERE.
YOU ALL SOMETIMES REFUSE TO USE THEM.
TAKE THE -- AND CHILD SUPPORT.
WHEN THE STATE GETS IT WRONG, REAL PEOPLE PAY.
IT'S COST PEOPLE THEIR LICENSES, THEIR JOBS, THEIR
RELATIONSHIPS AND MANY PEOPLE THEIR PEACE OF MIND.
I KNOW THE COUNCIL CAN'T CONTROL THE STATE AGENCY, BUT YOU
CAN PASS A RESOLUTION ASKING A LEGISLATOR -- LEGISLATIVE
AUDITING COMMITTEE FOR AN AUDIT AND TAKE IT TO THE
HILLSBOROUGH LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, PLACE THAT RESOLUTION
ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR THE PEOPLE.
TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WATCHING, AS I SAID BEFORE, WHY
DON'T YOU COME DOWN HERE.
IF YOU CAN'T COME DOWN HERE.
SHOOT.
SIGN UP ONLINE.
DO THAT FROM THE COMFORT OF YOUR PHONE.
IN THAT BOOK, A LOT OF FOLKS LOVE TO THUMP THE MOST -- HE
REACHED OUT FOR A MAN STANDING IN THE GAP FOR THE PEOPLE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE LOOK TO YOU ALL TO BE SOMEBODY TO STAND IN
THE GAP FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
HE DIDN'T FIND ANY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT FINDING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO STAND
IN THE GAP FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY CAN COME IN, ANYBODY CAN TALK ONLINE.
LET'S FIND SOMEBODY TO STAND IN THE GAP FOR PEOPLE,
ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
11:28:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. DOSS.
ROBIN LOCKETT, CAROLYN, FRAN TATE.
11:28:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THIS WILL BE QUICK.
FIRST, DO SOMETHING FUN.
DON'T WALK OUT THE DOOR YET.
THE GREATEST INSTITUTE IS TAMPA BAY TECH.
WAS AND STILL IS TODAY.
BUT I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THE ORDINANCE
TODAY IN REGARDS TO FRANK REDDICK.
GREAT HUMAN BEING.
RAN THE SICKLE CELL AGENCY, BUT IT WAS WELL DESERVED.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG, FOR CHARGING FORWARD
WITH THAT.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T RECEIVE THEIR FLOWERS
WHEN THEY ARE HERE.
IT'S LEFT FOR THE FAMILY TO RECEIVE THE FLOWERS WHEN THEY
ARE GONE.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
I WANT TO ALSO THANK -- I'M FULL OF THANKFULNESS TODAY.
CHARTER REVIEW BOARD.
I THINK THEIR EFFORT WAS GRAND.
I THINK THERE WERE GOOD THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE
MEETINGS.
ESPECIALLY -- IS IT INSPECTOR GENERAL?
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
I REALLY THINK FOR ME THAT WAS THE BEST THING, RIGHT?
AGAIN IT ALLOWS COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD.
I WANT TO THANK ASHLEY MORROW FOR HER BEING THE CHAIR,
SELECTING THE CHAIR, SITTING IN IT, BEING NEW AT IT,
UNDERSTANDING IT, AND MOVING THAT GROUP FORWARD.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
I ALREADY DID MY CLARITY ABOUT WHO IS THE GREATEST
INSTITUTION.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
11:30:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ROBIN, DO YOU KNOW WHICH SCHOOL IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS THE HIGHEST GRADUATION RATE WITH
99.1%?
11:30:28AM >> TAMPA BAY VO-TECH.
11:30:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WITH A 76% STUDENTS ON FREE AND REDUCED
LUNCH.
11:30:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM NOT GOING TO SEPARATE YOU.
11:30:37AM >> YOU KNOW THE INTERESTING THING, I GRADUATED FROM TAMPA
BAY TECH IN '82.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF US GOING, WITH US,
BECAUSE I LIVED IN ROBLES PARK, GET UP AT 6:00 IN THE
MORNING TO GET TO SCHOOL ON TIME.
BUT THAT PROCESS, WE WERE INTENTIONAL IN LEAVING OUR
COMMUNITY SCHOOL BECAUSE I WAS SLATED TO GO TO THE
HILLSBOROUGH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CAMARADERIE OF OUR COMMUNITY SCHOOL.
WE HAD TO BUILD CAMARADERIE ABOUT TAMPA BAY TECH.
THAT'S WHY OUR ALUMNI TODAY IS SO STRONG, BECAUSE WE BUILT
FAMILY WITH THAT AND IT STILL GOES TODAY.
I AM A PROUD GRADUATE.
I DON'T SIT SIDELINE.
I STILL PARTICIPATE, STILL INVOLVED.
I'M A PROUD GRADUATE OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
AND I PLAY BASKETBALL FOR TECH.
11:31:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAROLYN, FOLLOWED BY FRAN.
CAROLYN, ARE YOU HERE?
OKAY.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:31:49AM >> MY NAME IS CAROLINE QUINN.
I ALSO GO BY CARRIE FOR FIRST NAME OR WASIENEWSKI.
11:32:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WASN'T GOING TO TRY THAT PART.
11:32:02AM >> GOOD CALL.
3220 WEST GRANADA STREET.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT WATER MAIN CONSTRUCTION
HAS HAD ON MY HOUSE.
WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE AS I WAS DOING
ONLINE RESEARCH, I SAW SOME MATERIAL ABOUT WORK BEING DONE
AROUND MY HOUSE, POSSIBLY RELATED TO A NEW ZONING.
I'M SPECIFICALLY HERE FOR MY HOUSE.
I LIVE ON A CORNER OF GRANADA AND FERDINAND.
THERE WAS A LARGE WATER MAIN PROJECT IN THAT AREA.
A LOT OF IT -- I WAS TOLD I WAS LIKE A -- I WAS TOLD I WAS
LIKE A CONNECTION POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU COULD SEE THE DATE -- JULY 28, '25.
YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS OUTSIDE OF MY KITCHEN WINDOW.
YOU COULD SEE BETWEEN MY WINDOW FRAME AND WHERE THE PERSON
IS STANDING.
HE'S ON THE STREET.
THIS IS ALL OCCURRING IN MY YARD ON MY PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR -- HOW DEEP THE HOLE IS AND THE GUY
STANDING THERE.
A SUBSTANTIALLY DEEP HOLE THAT HELD WATER.
JULY 28.
I THINK THEY MAYBE WRAPPED IT UP HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND
THEN STARTED AT A DIFFERENT POINT OR SOMETHING.
MY PICTURES, THEY GO JULY THROUGH AUGUST THROUGH SEPTEMBER.
VIDEO, I WON'T SHOW YOU THE WHOLE VIDEO.
AT THIS POINT, MY STREET WAS CLOSED.
THERE'S MORE PICTURES IN OCTOBER WHERE THEY WERE DIGGING
AGAIN OUTSIDE OF MY WINDOW.
SINCE THEN, I'VE HAD NOTICEABLE ISSUES IN MY HOUSE THAT I AM
CONCERNED ABOUT.
THEY STARTED DIGGING AGAIN RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED LIKE HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING
AGAIN.
WHEN THE WORKERS WERE IN MY YARD, I NEVER GAVE THEM A HARD
TIME.
I FELT LIKE EVERYBODY HAS A JOB TO DO.
I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
THIS WORK STARTED AGAIN.
I'M IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE THIS HOUSE AND LOOK AT IT
ONLINE AND IT SAYS LIKE NEEDS A TON OF WORK.
250,000, WHICH A LOT BY ITSELF IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE
400, 500 EASY.
11:34:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP.
SAM THOMAS, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, WOULD YOU PLEASE MEET
MS. QUINN AND GATHER HER INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK
WITH HER AND CONNECT HER WITH THE CORRECT -- IF YOU WANT TO
WAIT OUTSIDE THESE GLASS DOORS, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE SHOULD
COME UP AND GATHER YOUR INFORMATION AND CONNECT YOU WITH
CITY STAFF.
11:35:18AM >> THERE ARE CONCURRENT HEALTH CONCERNS I HAVE.
I NOTICED DIGGING AND I CAN FEEL IMPACTS IN MY HOUSE AND
HEAR THEM IN MY HOUSE.
11:35:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL CONNECT WITH YOU THE PEOPLE YOU NEED
TO SPEAK WITH.
SAM THOMAS, IF YOU COULD MEET HER OUTSIDE THE GLASS DOORS.
VERY GOOD FRAN TATE, BRING IT HOME.
11:35:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I AM FRAN TATE.
I'M THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT, CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE
JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND COMMUNITY
SAFETY WATCH GROUP.
I SERVE AS THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE
EAST TAMPA CRA ELECTED CHAIR THE FIRST TWO YEARS, AND I'M
APPOINTED TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE, FIGHT FOR OUR EAST TAMPA
STORMWATER RELIEF PROJECT.
THE ONE LOCATED BROADWAY AND 56th STREET.
THE ONE THAT WAS CANCELED AND THE FUNDS REALLOCATED TO SOUTH
HOWARD AVENUE.
I'M GOING TO COME UP HERE EVERY TIME I GET THE CHANCE TO
ADVOCATE AND FIGHT FOR THEIR PARTY TO BE CONTINUED.
IF YOU SAY, WELL, YES, IT WILL BE CONTINUED, WHEN?
WE DIDN'T GET A TOWN HALL MEETING TO TALK ABOUT, OH, GUESS
WHAT, THEY ARE GETTING READY TO CANCEL OUR PROJECT.
WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO COME DOWN HERE AND PACK THE ROOM
LIKE EVERY OTHER ORGANIZATION DOES WITH T-SHIRTS ON, SAVE
EAST TAMPA FOR STORM RELIEF PROJECT.
WE DIDN'T GET THAT CHANCE.
I'LL CONTINUE TO FIGHT BECAUSE THERE IS DENGUE FEVER OUT
THERE, MOSQUITOES TRANSMITTING IT.
THERE'S STILL FLOODING.
WATER COLLECTS IN THAT AREA.
IT'S NOT SAFE FOR US.
I'M A FIGHTER AND I AM AN ADVOCATE.
I COME WITH FRESH IDEAS BUT MY IDEAS EXPAND.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT ROOM THAT YOU NAMED AFTER OUR
BELOVED COUNCILMAN FRANK REDDICK.
COUNCILMAN FRANK REDDICK SHOULD HAVE HAD HIS NAME ON HIS
WHOLE ENTIRE BUILDING HAD IT BEEN ME.
I WOULD HAVE FOUGHT FOR THAT.
WILLIAMS, SLASH, FRANK REDDICK BUILDING, PARK.
HE PUT A SWIMMING POOL THERE.
HE SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION.
THEN ELECTED AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
HE FOUGHT.
HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING JACKSON HEIGHTS ON THE MAP.
HAD TO FIGHT TO BECOME OUR OWN COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION, AND IT WAS HIM, IT WAS HIM THAT TOLD OTHERS WHO
WERE PIGEON HOLING US, LET THEM GO.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.
LET THEM GO.
IT WASN'T FAIR AND IT WASN'T RIGHT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
WE'RE UNDERSERVED.
SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE'RE UNDERSERVED.
WE NEED A FIGHTER SITTING UP THERE.
A FIGHTER FOR BOTH AREAS BECAUSE WE DON'T GET WHAT WE
DESERVE AT ANY TIME, IN MY OPINION.
TROPHIES, TRINKETS, THEY ARE ALL WELL AND FINE.
WHAT ABOUT THE REAL FIGHT?
WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY FIGHT?
WHAT ABOUT OUR STORE?
WHAT ABOUT OUR FRESH FOOD MARKET.
WHAT ABOUT OUR POTHOLES?
WHAT ABOUT OUR BUS SHELTERS?
WE NEED A REAL FIGHTER.
THANK YOU, HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
11:38:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
WE HAVE ONE ONLINE SPEAKER.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
BRING IT HOME.
GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL.
11:38:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW FLORIDA AMENDMENT 3 WILL
IMPACT WEST TAMPA AND HOW OUR COMMUNITY IS PREPARING TO
RESPOND.
LOW INCOME RESIDENTS ARE THE GROUP MOST NEGATIVELY AFFECTED.
ANALYSTS FROM FLORIDA TODAY AND FLORIDA POLICY INSTITUTE
SHOW THAT AMENDMENT 3 SHOULD -- TOWARDS RENTERS, TRANSIT
DEPENDENT RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED.
WEST TAMPA ALREADY HAVE THE HIGHEST THAN AVERAGE -- FOR
RESCUING, E.M.S. AND POLICE CALLS.
LESS FUNDING, RESPONSE TIME SLOWS, UNITS AVAILABILITY AND
POLICING.
COMMUNITY SERVICE COULD ALSO BE IMPACTED.
FAMILIES RELY ON RECREATIONAL CENTERS, YOUTH SPORTS,
AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND SUMMER CAMPS.
RECREATIONAL, PAID ENROLLMENT AND FACILITIES RENTALS COULD
INCREASE.
SENIORS MAY SEE A REDUCE IN HOURS OR PROGRAMS FOR COMMUNITY
CENTERS.
CEA IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING AND HOUSING
REHABILITATION IS --
MOST WEST TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE RENTERS.
AMENDMENT 3 PROVIDES NO TAX REMEDY FOR RENTERS.
AT THE SAME TIME, RENT AND SERVICE FEE RISE.
CREATING A DOUBLE BURDEN FOR FAMILIES ALREADY STRUGGLING FOR
RENT.
THIS AMENDMENT COULD LEAD TO EVICTION, INCREASED YOUTH --
ISOLATION OF SENIORS AND INCREASE OF DEATH BECAUSE OF A LOW
RESPONSE.
PLEASE VOTE.
NEXT WEEK I'LL TURN WITH A SOLUTION, SPECIFICALLY OW WEST
TAMPA TECHNOLOGY AND WEALTH BUILDING CENTER CAN REDUCE THE
ECONOMIC IMPACT BY CREATING INCOME STRAIN, NEW CAREER
PATHWAYS AND REAL WEALTH BUILDING STUDENTS.
THANK YOU.
11:41:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MICHAEL, WHAT A PERFECT WAY TO BRING IT
HOME AND CLOSE OUT PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 60 AND 61?
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS OF 60 AND 61?
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
YOUNG.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE
MELISSA IS IN THE ORDINANCE.
WE'LL HEAR ITEM 64 NOW, PLEASE.
11:41:59AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DIDN'T EXPECT THAT.
MELISSA ZORNITTA --
11:42:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN SIT AROUND AND WAIT UNTIL AFTER
LUNCH IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
11:42:06AM >> I'M NOT TURNING DOWN THIS FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE HAVE BEEN EXPLORING THE IDEA OF
STADIUM DISTRICT PLAN, PUT THAT IN QUOTES.
MYSELF AND MR. WONG FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING
ORGANIZATION HAVE BEEN EXPLORING THE IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT
LOOK LIKE.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY LAST WEEK TO BE INVITED TO A MEETING
OF SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DIRECTLY AROUND WHERE THE NEW
RAYS STADIUM WOULD BE AND LISTENED TO SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS
AROUND EVENTS, AROUND TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER, OTHER
PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, GROWTH IN THEIR AREA AND ALONG
SOME OF THEIR CORRIDORS AND HOW THAT REDEVELOPMENT MIGHT FIT
IN BETTER WITH THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD WERE SHORT TERM,
KIND OF OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT MIGHT FEED WELL INTO OTHER
EXISTING, LIKE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN OR OTHER
THINGS, LIKE A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
BUT MANY OF THEM LEND THEMSELVES TOWARDS LOOKING AT A
PLANNING EFFORT FOR THAT AREA.
SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE HEARING
FROM SOME OF THE PARTNERS IN THIS EFFORT.
D.O.T., THE CITY, OF COURSE, THE COUNTY, HART, TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT ARE IN THEIR PLANS, WHAT DO THEY HAVE PROGRAMMED?
WHAT MIGHT BE IN THEIR LONGER RANGE PLANS TO SEE WHERE THERE
ARE GAPS WHERE SOME OF THESE THINGS ALIGN, AND HOW WE CAN
LEVERAGE ALL OF THAT INTO A PLANNING EFFORT THAT ADDRESSES
WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN.
SO WE THINK WITH THAT INFORMATION, WE WOULD BE IN A GOOD
POSITION IF COUNCIL SO DESIRES TO BRING FORWARD A SCOPE OF
SERVICES OF WHAT THAT PLAN MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WAS
CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION YOU ALL WOULD LIKE AND WELCOME
ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, JAIME JONES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
IS HERE AS WELL.
11:44:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HI, JAMIE.
11:44:34AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
11:44:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:44:40AM >> JAIME JONES WITH THE WEST TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
ALL I DID WAS PUT TOGETHER A QUICK LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT SO FAR.
AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY THE WEST TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION AND THEN A COLLECTION OF FOUR OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PRETTY MUCH DIRECTLY ARE ABUTTED TO THE
HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE CAMPUS AND THE BUCCANEERS
STADIUM.
WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY SPECIAL
EVENTS AND STADIUM ACTIVITIES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RAYS
BEING APPROVED FOR THEIR NEW STADIUM AND THEIR MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT WHICH NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THAT WILL REALLY LOOK
LIKE.
BUT WE ARE REALLY ATTEMPTING TO BE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN
REACTIVE AND TO SOLVE EXISTING ISSUES THAT WE ALL SEE EVERY
SINGLE DAY AND FEEL.
THIS IS REALLY EVOLVING.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN YET.
OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESOURCES FOR THIS.
THIS IS JUST NEIGHBORS COMING TOGETHER AND SAYING WHAT DOES
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY NEED RIGHT NOW AND WHAT DO WE WANT
TO LOOK LIKE IN 20 YEARS?
AGAIN, I'M DEFINITELY HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN ASK FOR FROM YOU?
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW YET EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
11:46:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, HURTAK,
CARLSON.
11:46:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO FILL IN, SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT DURING THE RAYS' CASE BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THE
NEIGHBORHOODS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DIRECT IMPACTS.
BUT THEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO SAID, WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD
ANY KIND OF PLANNING IN A LONG TIME.
WHETHER THE RAYS THING GOES THROUGH OR NOT, WE WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE SOME KIND OF PLANNING.
DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER COHEN, HARRY COHEN
WAS SITTING IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS WITH ME.
HE IS PUSHING HARD TO GET THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE TPO AND
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO TRY TO ALLOCATE SOME FUNDING
FOR THIS.
ALTHOUGH EACH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WILL CHARGE SOMETHING,
IT COULD BE THAT IF HARRY IS SUCCESSFUL OR HIS COLLEAGUES
ARE SUCCESSFUL, THAT THE COUNTY WILL PICK UP A BIG CHUNK OF
IT.
THE COUNTY WAS THE LEAD ON THE RAYS DISCUSSION.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS GOES BEYOND THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THIS MEETING, THIS
WAS A MEETING THAT JAMIE PUT TOGETHER OF NEIGHBORHOODS
DIRECTLY ADJACENT -- CAN I PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND?
I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALAN HEARS THIS.
JAIME WAS THE ONE WHO VOLUNTEERED TO ORGANIZE.
IT IS A LOT OF WORK TO ORGANIZE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET THEM
TOGETHER.
IN THE DISCUSSION HE INVITED ME, INVITED MELISSA, JOHNNY
WONG AND ALSO HARRY COHEN.
AND WE WERE THERE JUST TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED, WHO ALL SHOULD BE AT THE
TABLE?
SANDY SANCHEZ SENT E-MAILS ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DISAGREES THERE COULD BE MORE PEOPLE
AT THE TABLE IN WEST TAMPA AND EVEN BROADER.
THE INITIAL QUESTION, THOUGH THAT JAMIE WAS ASKING, HOW DOES
IT DIRECTLY AFFECT US?
WHAT MONEY OR PLANNING TOOLS MIGHT THERE BE TO EFFECT THE
DIRECT IMPACTS?
IF THERE'S LIMITED FUNDING AND LIMITED TOOLS, ESPECIALLY
WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, NEIGHBORHOODS DIRECTLY
IMPACTED WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THAT DIRECTLY
AFFECT THEM.
I WON'T SPEAK FOR YOU GUYS, BUT I THINK THE CONSENSUS WAS,
THEY WOULD WELCOME THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS FROM WEST TAMPA.
ALSO WAS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IS WEST TAMPA?
I THINK SOME FOLKS FROM DREW PARK THINK DREW PARK IS NOT IN
WEST TAMPA.
IRONICALLY, WE STEP IN EACH OTHER'S TURF SOMETIMES.
CHARLIE LITERALLY LIVES IN JAIME'S NEIGHBORHOOD.
I CAN'T TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DETAILS,
BUT I TRY TO GIVE HIM A HEADS-UP WHEN I'M AROUND HIS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ALSO GO TO SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS AROUND THERE A LOT.
ANYWAY, THE IDEA RIGHT NOW AT THE VERY BEGINNING, IF YOU ALL
HAVE IDEAS THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE ANY OF THEM, YOU CAN.
PROBABLY WILL BE ANOTHER MEETING JUST TO LISTEN.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT PROBLEMS DO THEY ANTICIPATE?
WHAT TOOLS MIGHT THERE BE AND WHAT MONEY MIGHT THERE BE?
ONCE THAT IS DETERMINED, FROM THE TPO, MPO OR COUNTY, THERE
WILL BE A PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL BE INVITED.
THERE WILL BE PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONLINE SURVEYS.
THERE WILL BE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
THESE INITIAL MEETINGS ARE JUST TO ASK THE QUESTION WHO
SHOULD BE INVOLVED, HOW SHOULD IT BE ORGANIZED, WHAT ARE THE
PROBLEMS THEY ARE TRYING TO FACE?
11:49:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA AND MANISCALCO.
11:49:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A FEW THINGS I'M THINKING ABOUT.
GLAD YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS NOW.
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
MY FIRST THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS DEFINITELY
GETTING THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOBBIED HEAVILY
TO TAKE, AND WE PROBABLY WILL END UP TAKING SOME OF THE
ARMENIA CORRIDOR OUT OF THE TRC.
THAT'S WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ASKING FOR.
BUT THAT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH.
WHILE WE MAY TAKE IT OUT SHORT TERM, OVER LONG TERM THAT
MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL HAVE TO COME
TOGETHER FOR.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND POINT, WHICH IS WE HAVE SOME
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS.
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS AN OVERLAY.
IT'S OLDER, BUT ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU DON'T KNOW PEOPLE IN THE
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA, THIS IS WHERE YOU USE THAN TO CONNECT
TO YOU TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS DONE IN ABOUT 2007, 2008, IT WAS FINISHED
RIGHT BEFORE THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.
IT'S TAKEN A REALLY LONG TIME TO GET IT GOING AGAIN.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD GROUP FOR YOU TO TALK TO ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED.
ALSO EAST TAMPA AND TAMPA HEIGHTS HAVE BRAND-NEW OVERLAYS.
AGAIN, I WOULD TALK TO THAN ABOUT GETTING YOU CONNECTED WITH
THOSE FOLKS.
THIRDLY, WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS CONNECT, THE
HEIGHTS HAS THEIR OWN UMBRELLA GROUP FOR ALL THE HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE A PART OF.
MAYBE TALK TO ONE OF THE HEIGHTS.
WHILE TALKING TO PEOPLE FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, HOW IS THAT
GOING, IT STOPPED FOR A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE OF COVID BUT I
BELIEVE THE CONVERSATION NOW IS TO BRING IT BACK.
HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
I KNOW WHEN I WAS ON THE LEADERSHIP BOARD, WE HAD LIKE A
Facebook GROUP, LIKE A PRIVATE Facebook GROUP SO WE COULD
CHAT.
WE GOT TOGETHER EVERY QUARTER.
THERE WERE THINGS TO DEFINITELY BRING TOGETHER.
THAT WAY YOU KNOW EACH OTHER, MESSAGE EACH OTHER REALLY
QUICKLY WITH WHATEVER THE NEWER TOOL OF THE DAY IS, ALTHOUGH
YOU MAY BE BACK TO Facebook BECAUSE EVERYBODY TENDS TO USE
IT.
ALL OF THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS YOU COME TOGETHER.
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS STRENGTHEN YOUR COMMUNITY AND
BUILD UPON IT WITH THIS.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM ALLOCATING MONEY TOWARD THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS
WITH THE STADIUM, YOU REALLY DO, IT'S YOUR TURN.
IT'S YOUR TIME.
EVENTUALLY IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE PARTS OF THE CITY
DO THAT.
BUT JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS,
BUT THOSE ARE MY FIRST INITIAL THOUGHTS.
NEXT TIME YOU HAVE A PLANNING MEETING LIKE THIS, PLEASE FEEL
FREE TO INVITE ALL OF US.
WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT IT, WHICH IS FINE, WANTING
TO BE THERE TO LISTEN I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SOMETHING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING, TOO.
WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH THIS PROCESS.
11:52:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MR. JONES, YOUR AREA AND YOUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, WHAT IS
THE AREA OF THE BOUNDARIES?
CAN YOU GIVE THEM TO US?
11:52:52AM >> FOR WEST TAMPA HEIGHTS, MLK ON THE NORTH, FORMERLY
BUFFALO AVENUE, FOUND THAT OUT LOOKING AT THE PLAT THE OTHER
DAY AND THEN ARMENIA, TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD AND HIMES RIGHT UP
AGAINST STADIUM.
11:53:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SMALL, COMPACTED.
11:53:07AM >> COMPARED TO -- ESPECIALLY MacFARLANE PARK.
11:53:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SUNDAY I WAS HEADING SOUTH TO HAVE DINNER
AT MY DAUGHTER'S HOUSE, ONE OF THEM.
I LEFT ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE THE GAME LEFT.
ALREADY WHEN I TURN ON ARMENIA HEADING SOUTH, I DIDN'T
REALIZE WHAT I WAS DOING.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
GOT IN THE INSIDE LANE.
THAT INSIDE LANE WAS BACKED UP FOR BLOCKS UNTIL I NOTICED
THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE OUTSIDE LANE.
I WENT IN THE OUTSIDE LANE AND COASTED ALL THE WAY DOWN
ARMENIA ALL THE WAY INTO CLEVELAND BACK THERE SO I COULD GO
SEE MY DAUGHTER'S HOUSE.
I FINALLY REALIZED WHY.
THAT INSIDE LANE WAS BLOCKED BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING CARS
INTO THE INTERSTATE HEADING SOUTH.
ALL OF THEM.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE THAT GO VISIT AND THEY SHOULD
ARE ENORMOUS TRAFFIC PATTERN FOR EVERY BLOCK THAT YOU HAVE
IN YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BECAUSE I LIVE IN YOUR
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE IF YOU
DON'T LEAVE THEN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE AN HOUR AND A HALF
INSIDE YOUR HOUSE WHERE YOU CANNOT -- ANOTHER THING, IF YOU
TAKE A TRAFFIC COUNT OF ACCIDENTS MacDILL AVENUE SOUTH
OF TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD TO COLUMBUS DRIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
SURPRISED HOW MANY ACCIDENTS THERE ARE LEAVING THE STADIUM.
I'LL GET THOSE FIGURES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW THAT I
MENTION IT.
THESE THINGS IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION,
IS THERE ANY WAY WHERE YOU CAN EXPAND YOUR HOMEOWNER
ASSOCIATION IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT?
11:54:49AM >> FIRST, LET ME ADDRESS.
WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE NOT AN HOA.
WE DON'T CHARGE A FEE.
[TALKING OVER ONE ANOTHER]
11:55:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN LIVE OUTSIDE.
11:55:05AM >> COMPLETELY FREE AND NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVEN.
TWO THINGS THERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOUNDARIES OF WHERE WE ARE STUDYING,
THE FIRST THING I HAD PROPOSED -- AND THIS IS REALLY ME AS
AN URBAN PLANNER.
I PROPOSED DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT REALLY WOULD MODEL THE
ROADWAY NETWORK AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TRAFFIC IS HEADING,
ESPECIALLY ON SPECIAL EVENT DAYS, RIGHT?
THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.
YOU'D HAVE TO MODEL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THAT TSA AND THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER IS IN CONTROL OF THAT, THEY TURN TAMPA
BAY BOULEVARD INTO A ONE-WAY.
THEY DON'T LET PEOPLE GO NORTH AT ALL.
EVERYONE HAS TO GO SOUTH NO MATTER WHAT.
THAT PUTS EVERYONE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE REALLY OPERATIONAL THAT,
YES, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT.
IT SHOULD EXPAND IT AS MUCH AS IT HAS TO FOR US TO CAPTURE
THE BIG PICTURE HERE.
11:56:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
11:56:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LEAVE.
11:56:16AM >> YES.
11:56:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE EXACERBATED BY 81
MORE DAYS OF SOMETHING, MAYBE NOT AS LARGE BUT THERE.
IF THERE IS AN EVENT THERE OR AN EVENT AT THE STADIUM FOR A
CONCERT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY IN YOUR HOUSE.
11:56:28AM >> WE LIVE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES FROM THE AIRPORT.
THE OTHER DAY, I FLEW INTO THE AIRPORT, GOT IN AT 11 P.M.
MY WIFE AND SON ARE ALREADY IN BED.
I'M TRYING TO TAKE AN UBER.
BRUNO MARS, $74 TO GET HOME, TWO AND A HALF MILES.
IF THAT'S 200 DAYS OF THE YEAR, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
NEED TO AVOID HERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT, FIND RESOURCES TO MAKE
SURE --
11:56:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MASS TRANSIT.
11:57:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ASK FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY OF THE AREA THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS.
TALKING NOW WITHOUT.
THOSE GAME DAYS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY WHEN
THERE'S AN EVENT AT ANY ONE OF THOSE AREAS BECAUSE WHAT
YOU'RE GOING TO GET IS AN UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER THAT YOU CAN'T
MOVE.
NO ONE CAN MOVE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA.
GUARANTEE YOU WHERE WE'RE AT IS THREE TIMES AS BAD.
11:57:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:57:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO I LIVE RIGHT THERE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES.
SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHERE I LIVE TAKE PART IN YOUR
ASSOCIATION.
I'M RIGHT THERE AT WHAT YOU SAID WAS BUFFALO AND HABANA.
HASN'T BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE I WAS A KID.
BORN AND RAISED HERE.
LIVED BEHIND CHARLIE MIRANDA FOR TWO YEARS WHEN I WAS A KID.
I DON'T HAVE MEMORIES THAT FAR.
ON EVENT DAYS, TAMPA BAY TURNS INTO A ONE-WAY.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
THE TIMING, THE SEQUENCE OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO GO NORTH
ON HABANA FOR ME TO GET HOME TO CROSS MLK, SOMETIMES IT
DOESN'T CHANGE, SOMETIMES IT TAKES FOREVER.
IF YOU HAVE EMERGENCY VEHICLES THAT IS A PROBLEM.
50 YEARS AGO, WIDENING TO DALE MABRY.
ADDED A RIGHT-TURN LANE, MAYBE 20, 30 YEARS AGO.
THINGS HAVE BEEN IMPROVED UPON, BUT THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD.
TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD I THINK AT THE TPO LEVEL, THEY ARE
LOOKING AT PROBABLY FUNDING FOR WIDENING THAT.
11:58:28AM >> JUST TO DALE MABRY.
11:58:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AIR CARGO WAS DONE 20 YEARS AGO.
TALKING ABOUT DOING IT AGAIN, I BELIEVE.
WEST SIDE OF DALE MABRY, IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE.
WHAT ABOUT WEST TAMPA?
ANOTHER THING, YOU HAVE IT LISTED HERE, SIDEWALKS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING FOREVER.
WE HAVE THE OPEN DITCHES THAT DO SERVE THEIR PURPOSE WHEN IT
RAINS, BUT WHAT ABOUT CLOSING THE DITCHES OR ADDING
SIDEWALKS?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP NEW DEVELOPMENT, SIDEWALK TO
NOWHERE, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT PARK IN RESIDENTIAL LOTS,
PEOPLE MAKE MONEY, WHATEVER, AND THEY HAVE TO WALK TO THESE
PLACES, THERE'S INADEQUATE SIDEWALKS.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE MLK BECAUSE OF THE SIDEWALKS OR COLUMBUS
DRIVE.
IN BETWEEN, VERY FEW PARTS OF TAMPA BAY AND THEN THROUGHOUT
THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AGAIN VERY NARROW.
TRAFFIC STUDY IS THE BIGGEST THING.
MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST FOR RESIDENTS BUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES,
SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK.
LOOKING AT CLOSING SOME OF THE DITCHES AND BUILDING
SIDEWALKS AND PUTTING A MORE MODERNIZED DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
LET ME KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP.
I'M LITERALLY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM YOU DOWN THE
STREET.
WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE AND SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THIS
AREA.
IT'S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUSLY AFFECTED.
11:59:49AM >> MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE DURING NEW BUSINESS, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, UNLESS
SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO PICK IT UP, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL TO CREATE
WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PLANNING COMMISSION, ALL
INTERESTED PARTIES, TO CREATE A COMMITTEE, A CITY COMMITTEE
TO FACILITATE THIS WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION DURING NEW
BUSINESS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE THAT ON.
12:00:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE THIS IS GRASSROOTS.
THEY ARE RUNNING IT RIGHT NOW.
12:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT THAT GIVES -- THE NICE THING -- THE
PITCH FOR THAT WOULD BE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE THAT
PROPOSAL IS ONCE YOU INSTITUTIONALIZE THAT AS A CITY, YOU
HAVE CITY RESOURCES, YOU HAVE CITY STAFF.
YOU COORDINATE WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, THE TPO.
YOU MENTIONED TSA, YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY BECAUSE AS A
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, YOU REALLY CAN'T COMPEL OR ASK THOSE
FOLKS TO COME AND DO THESE THINGS.
IF WE INSTITUTIONALIZE THIS AND CREATED SOMETHING FORMAL, I
THINK THAT WOULD MAYBE HELP FACILITATE THIS AND POTENTIALLY
CREATE A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR IT.
THAT'S A SUGGESTION FOR NEW BUSINESS.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE TAKE --
12:01:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING IS --
12:01:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WRAP IT UP AND GO TO LUNCH.
12:01:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OTHER THING DO AT THE SAME TIME OR MAYBE
WHILE MELISSA IS STILL HERE, I THINK JOHNNY AND MELISSA --
JOHNNY AND MELISSA WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO IN ESSENCE GIVE
THEM CONSENT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THREE OF YOU ARE ON THE TPO
BOARD.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE WORDS ARE?
12:01:25PM >> YEAH, I THINK WE'D LOVE SOME SORT OF MOTION OR DIRECTION
FOR US TO CONTINUE WORKING ON THIS SO THAT WE KNOW IT'S A
REQUEST OF ALL OF COUNCIL AS WELL AS --
12:01:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAVE THAT FOR NEW BUSINESS?
12:01:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT DISAGREES?
CAN WE HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT, HAVE THEM CONTINUING WHAT
THEY ARE DOING NOW?
THEN FORMALIZE IT WITH SOME OTHER PROCESS.
12:01:46PM >> THAT'S GREAT.
12:01:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I BELIEVE THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO
IS TRAFFIC STUDY.
PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T DO TRAFFIC STUDIES.
12:01:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, THEY DO.
12:01:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THOUGHT THE CITY DID THE TRAFFIC
STUDIES.
12:01:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON.
LET'S TAKE CONTROL.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND I'LL ADDRESS MR. SHELBY.
12:02:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING ABOUT TRAFFIC, LISTENING TO
THE STORIES, AGAIN JUST NOW AND THE OTHER DAY ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS IS THE SAME EXACT THING THAT HAPPENS IN DOWNTOWN AND
SOUTH TAMPA.
WE'VE HAD TPD AND OTHERS COME BEFORE US SEVERAL TIMES AND
MOBILITY COME BEFORE US SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
THERE ARE OBVIOUS THINGS WE STILL NEED TO CHANGE IN DOWNTOWN
BECAUSE CAUSING BACKUPS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
SAME THING HAPPENING HERE.
THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO -- I FORGOT
THE NAME OF IT, BUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT GETS PUT IN BY
MOBILITY AND TPD.
WHEN YOU SUDDENLY CHANGE ROADS THAT PEOPLE EXPECT TO BE TWO
WAY TO BE ONE WAY, IT CONFUSES EVERYONE AND SENDS PEOPLE THE
WRONG DIRECTION.
DOWNTOWN, INSTEAD OF SENDING PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE ARENA,
THEY SEND PEOPLE BACK TOWARD THE ARENA, WHICH I THINK IS
CRAZY.
12:02:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR YOU AND I AGREE.
MR. SHELBY.
12:02:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT MS. ZORNITTA WAS REQUESTING WAS AN
ACTION OF COUNCIL.
WHAT COUNCIL JUST DID WAS NOT AN ACTION OF COUNCIL.
12:03:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, I THINK SHE --
12:03:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR YOUR MINUTES, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE
MUCH OF ANYTHING.
12:03:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DO NOT HAVE A RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF US
FOR CLEAR DIRECTION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE ASKING TO CONTINUE WHAT THEY
ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
BASICALLY, THEY SELF-DISCLOSED THAT THEY ARE WORKING BEHIND
THE SCENES TO KIND OF LIKE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT WORKING BEHIND OUR BACK.
SO THIS WAS FULL TRANSPARENCY AND DISCLOSURE.
WE JUST WANT TO SAY, YEAH, WE LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
12:03:28PM >>MELISSA ZORNITTA:
THAT WORKS --
12:03:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ACTION OF CITY
COUNCIL.
12:03:32PM >>MELISSA ZORNITTA:
RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND.
I THINK, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN CHARACTERIZED IT CORRECTLY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE
DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING AND ARE CONTINUING TO PURSUE
THAT.
12:03:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND THEN LOOK AT SOME MECHANISM OF
CREATING SOMETHING MORE FORMALIZED TO HAVE SOME RESOURCES
AND ABILITY TO COMPEL.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FIRST AND THEN IF WE COULD WRAP THIS UP.
12:03:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH ALL THE THINGS SAID BUT YOU
STILL NEED A BASE FOR TRAFFIC STUDY.
12:04:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE'S COORDINATING WITH THEM.
12:04:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ARE YOU GOING TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY?
12:04:10PM >>MELISSA ZORNITTA:
THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION
CAN DO THAT.
WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY.
12:04:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE THE BOUNDARIES AND EVERYTHING
ELSE?
12:04:18PM >>MELISSA ZORNITTA:
I THINK SO, YES.
12:04:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BUT IT'S
HAPPENING.
THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING WE CAN TELL THE PUBLIC.
12:04:26PM >>MELISSA ZORNITTA:
WE'LL BE WORKING ON IT.
12:04:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A WORK IN PROGRESS.
12:04:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS THE CHAIR JUST SAID, THEY WANTED TO
DISCLOSE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS.
NOTHING THAT'S DONE.
NOTHING PLANNED, THEY ARE JUST HAVING ORGANIZATIONAL
MEETINGS AND THEY WANT TO DISCLOSE EVEN AT THIS STAGE, WHICH
I THINK IS GOOD FOR TRANSPARENCY.
THE LAST THING I CAN SAY, I CAN MAKE THE MOTION LATER ABOUT
THE CITY, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THE COUNTY APPARENTLY WANTS
TO PLAY A BIG ROLE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY WERE LEAD ON THE
STADIUM.
YOU ALL KNOW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND ALL OF YOU KNOW HARRY
COHEN.
HE'S TRYING TO TAKE POINT ON THIS AND PUSHING REALLY HARD.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE COUNTY WILL FUND ALL OF IT.
LET'S TALK TO THEM FIRST.
12:05:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKE THAT IOU TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE
TIME THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I CAN PERCEIVE THIS TO BE COMING INTO LIKE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
KIND OF THING.
A MELD OF OVERLAY VERSUS OTHER FORMS OF GOVERNMENT
STRUCTURE.
12:05:25PM >> WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE DO WANT OUR OWN
ZONING DISTRICTS LIKE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS OR IF THIS SHOULD
BE AN OVERLAY OR JUST A MASTER PLAN.
BUT MASTER PLANS GET PUT ON SHELVES.
ALL THE THINGS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PARTS THAT WE HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A SCOPE, AN RFP
THAT CAN GO OUT FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT SCOPE, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S
GOING TO COST.
I WON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TO ASK YOU GUYS FOR YET.
BUT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GIVE US 3 MILLION THAT WOULD BE
COOL.
12:06:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG HAS A QUESTION.
12:06:04PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WAS GOING TO ASK IF I COULD HAVE A COPY OF
THIS, WHAT YOU HAVE --
12:06:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COULD YOU SEND IT TO ALL OF US?
12:06:13PM >> SURE, NO PROBLEM.
12:06:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS LEFT TO DO
AFTER LUNCH.
ONE IS A TIME CERTAIN AT 1:30.
IT DOES REQUIRE US TO COME BACK FROM LUNCH.
IT IS 12:07.
BACK IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 1:25 AND HEAR THE LAST TWO
REMAINING ITEMS OF BUSINESS.
WE ARE AT LUNCH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]
1:28:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS MEETING OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO
ORDER.
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
1:29:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:29:02PM >> MANISCALCO?
HURTAK?
1:29:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:29:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
1:29:05PM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
1:29:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
1:29:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
1:29:08PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:29:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAD SET A TIME CERTAIN FOR ITEM NUMBER 65, SO WE'RE GOING
TO DEAL WITH THAT AT THIS POINT.
AND IF YOU'LL LOOK TO THE PODIUM, YOU WILL SEE OUR VERY
CAPABLE ATTORNEY, MR. KENNETH TINKLER WHO REPRESENTS THE
LEGAL INTEREST OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.
WE ASKED HIM A COMMAND PERFORMANCE TO APPEAR AND HAVE THE
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING
COMMISSION THAT WE ACCEPTED AS WELL AS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S
SUGGESTIONS.
AND HE HAS A PowerPoint PRESENTATION.
SIR, WOULD YOU START WITH YOUR NAME?
1:29:45PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, KEN TINKLER WITH CARLSON FIELDS.
PLEASURE TO SEE ALL OF YOU AGAIN.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, BACK IN DECEMBER, THE CITY ENGAGED MY
FIRM TO PERFORM TWO DISTINCTIVE SCOPES OF LEGAL SERVICES.
THE FIRST WAS TO PROVIDE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL TO THE
CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THAT WORK CONCLUDED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 14 WHEN WE TRANSMITTED
THE CRC'S FINAL REPORT TO THE CITY.
AT THAT TIME, THE SECOND PHASE OF WORK BEGAN, WHICH IS
LIMITED TO PROVIDING THE CITY COUNCIL ADVICE ON CHARTER
AMENDMENT ISSUES, INCLUDING DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE CONTAINING
THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS YOU WISH TO PROCEED WITH, PROPOSED
BALLOT LANGUAGE AND SUMMARY.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE CITY
ATTORNEY OR THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THEY'LL HANDLE ALL THE ROUTINE RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN IT
COMES TO PROCESSING THE ORDINANCE THROUGH YOUR NORMAL
APPROVAL PROCESS, INCLUDING PROVIDING LEGAL NOTICE, WORKING
WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AND ANY SUBSEQUENT
PROCEEDINGS.
WHAT I'VE PROVIDED TO YOU IS BOTH, FIRST IN MEMO FORM, AN
OUTLINE OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH HERE TODAY.
IF THE TV FOLKS CAN GET THE PowerPoint ON THE SCREEN FOR
ME.
I ALSO CONVERTED TO A PowerPoint TO MAKE IT EASY.
I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT TEXT SIZE WITH THIS GROUP.
I WANT IT TO BE AS CLEAR AS I POSSIBLY COULD.
1:31:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SORRY.
YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE MR. ROGERO.
I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
1:31:12PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS EASY FOR YOU.
WHAT I'LL DO, FIRST -- LET ME MAKE SURE THIS IS WORKING FOR
ME.
LAST WEEK AT YOUR WORKSHOP, YOU WALKED THROUGH THE CHARTER
REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU INDICATED WHICH ONES YOU WANTED TO GO FORWARD WITH.
I WANT TO GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN YOU GIVE ME YOUR FINAL DIRECTION AS TO
WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE FINAL ORDINANCE.
THAT IS THE FIRST SECTION HERE.
THE SECOND SECTION, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR ME THAT CAME
UP DURING THE WORKSHOP.
I'LL ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE ITEMS.
AFTER THAT, THE LAST SECTION WILL BE NEW LANGUAGE FOR YOU
BASED UPON THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO ME AFTER YOUR
WORKSHOP AS TO ADDITIONAL ITEMS YOU WANTED TO HAVE ON THE
BALLOT, INCLUDING A REWRITE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
PROVISION.
1:32:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. TINKLER, IN THE INTEREST OF THE
PRESENTATION, IF THERE ARE AREAS THAT YOU NEED TO PAUSE TO
GET INPUT, IF YOU WOULD DO THAT.
IF THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE NATURAL AREAS THAT MAYBE
COUNCIL WANTS TO ASK A QUESTION, IF YOU COULD ANTICIPATE
THAT AS WELL.
OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT I'LL TRY TO DO IS ASK COUNCIL TO HOLD
QUESTIONS UNTIL WE GET TO A STRATEGIC POINT SO WE'RE NOT
INTERRUPTING YOUR FLOW.
1:32:26PM >>KEN TINKLER:
ABSOLUTELY.
APPRECIATE THAT.
THE FIRST ITEMS, HOPEFULLY I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY AND WILL BE
VERY QUICK AND THEN GET INTO THE MORE DETAILED DISCUSSION.
THE FIRST ITEM THAT YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH FROM THE
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION REPORT REGARDED SECTION 2.03.
IT WAS SIMPLY AN AMENDMENT TO THE LANGUAGE, MAYBE EXPEDIENT
AND NECESSARY AND REPLACE THE WORD COMPEL WITH REQUIRE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?
SECTION 2.08 WAS SIMPLY AN AMENDMENT TO -- AT PRESENT, HAVE
A PROCESS WHEN YOU HAVE TO READ THE TITLE OF AN ORDINANCE ON
TWO DAYS.
THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION RECOMMENDED SIMPLY AN ADDITION
REGARDING PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF GENERAL LAW SHOULD
THERE BE AN OPTION TO NOT HAVE A SECOND READING THAT'S
ALLOWED UNDER GENERAL LAW.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?
MARTY, IS THERE A WAY OF GETTING THE PowerPoint ON THE
SCREEN OR THIS DOES NOT WORK OVER HERE.
REGARDING THE TERM, THIS WAS SIMPLY TO CLARIFY SIMPLY THE
IDEA OF OFFICERS AS USED VARIOUS TIMES WITHIN THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION RECOMMENDED CHANGING THIS TO THE MAYOR AND
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS DELETING LANGUAGE RELATED TO
1979.
YOU'LL SEE A FEW THAT WEREN'T PICKED UP AT THE LAST CHARTER
REVIEW BOARD, THEY ARE RECOMMENDING CLEAN THAT UP TODAY.
BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE?
ALL RIGHT.
6.06, THIS IS ANOTHER CLEANUP ONE, GETTING RID OF THE 1975
LANGUAGE REGARDING THE OFFICER OF THE CITY, MAKING IT ALSO
CLEAR THAT A MAJORITY HERE IS AT LEAST FOUR VOTES.
AND IT COULD BE DONE EITHER BY RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?
1:34:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PUT A PIN ON THAT ONE FOR FUTURE
DISCUSSION.
1:34:32PM >>KEN TINKLER:
UNDERSTOOD.
REGARDING THIS, ON MILLAGE, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
RECOMMENDED MAKING IT CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW IN
ACCORDANCE, OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANYWAY, BUT THEY
WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT SINCE THE MILLAGE PROVISIONS
ARE VERY SPELLED OUT IN GENERAL LAW TO BE ABLE TO CITE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON 7.05?
9.02, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FOUND OUT THERE IS NO ZONING
ADJUSTMENT BOARD.
SO THEY WANTED TO STRIKE THIS PROVISION THAT PUT YOUR CHIEF
BUILDING INSPECTOR ON A NONEXISTENT BOARD.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON 9.02?
JUST FOR BACKGROUND, THE COMMISSION WENT THROUGH EVERY
SECTION OF THE CHARTER, SO IF THERE WERE EDITS, THAT'S HOW
THEY GOT TO YOU.
1:35:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS KIDDING.
1:35:23PM >>KEN TINKLER:
UNDERSTAND.
REGARDING 11.03, AGAIN, THIS IS A CLEANUP TO REMOVE THE 1975
LANGUAGE.
ANY QUESTIONS?
1:35:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID YOU CAN'T KID
WITH A LAWYER.
1:35:41PM >>KEN TINKLER:
HAPPY TO LAUGH ABOUT A LOT OF THIS LATER.
YOU HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ME, ITEMS YOU FLAGGED THAT YOU
WANTED FURTHER EXPLANATION, WHERE THEY CAME FROM, WHAT THEY
WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THE FIRST ONE WAS THE OATH, THIS WAS AN ITEM PREVIOUSLY
PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2018, INTENDED TO GO ON
THE BALLOT AS INDICATED IN A MEMO YOU RECEIVED FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY, THIS DID NOT MAKE THE BALLOT.
WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION DID WAS SIMPLY FORWARD
YOU ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT PREVIOUSLY A CHARTER REVIEW BOARD
GAVE YOU.
THIS IS NO EDITING FROM THEM.
IT'S SIMPLY TO REFLECT WHAT WAS ALREADY PASSED BY ORDINANCE.
THIS IS ALSO TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE FACT THAT YOU
ALREADY REMOVED THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS SO NOW YOU WERE
REQUIRING AN OATH WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT.
I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO ISSUED ANOTHER MEMO TODAY
REGARDING THIS TOPIC.
ANY QUESTIONS ON 6.05?
THEN IN TERMS OF DIRECTION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M
CLEAR THAT YOUR DIRECTION IS TO PROCEED WITH INCLUDING THIS
IN A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
1:36:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WHAT WE'LL ASSUME WITHOUT ANY
FURTHER DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT YOUR LANGUAGE,
BUT LET'S WITHHOLD THAT FINAL ANSWER UNTIL WE'RE COMPLETED
IN CASE THERE'S SOME BUYER'S REMORSE OR SOMETHING CIRCLES
BACK AROUND LIKE 6.06 DISCUSSION.
1:37:07PM >>KEN TINKLER:
ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S FINE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BUILD UP A RECORD HERE THAT IS CLEAR
WHEN WE GO TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE STAGE.
1:37:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M UNCLEAR.
WE'RE COMING BACK TO THIS?
1:37:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, I'M SAYING, I THINK AS HE MOVES
THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, WITHOUT ANY INPUT OR DISCUSSION,
I THINK THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT COUNCIL WILL ACCEPT WHAT HAS
BEEN PRESENTED.
I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SAY THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THIS AT
THIS POINT AND DIRECTING HIM TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE
ACTUALLY GO TO THE END IN CASE WE HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK TO
SOMETHING.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS NOW, SPEAK NOW.
1:37:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I'M LOOKING AT YESTERDAY'S MEMO FROM MR.
STEADY, AND IT BRINGS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PUT ON THE
BALLOT IN 2024 THAT SHALL REVISITING OFFICERS OF THE CITY
WHO CONDUCT GOVERNMENT WILL APPLY ONLY TO ELECTED OFFICERS.
AND SO THEY APPROVED THAT.
I THINK THE WORD OFFICER FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS A MEMBER
OF AN ELECTED POSITION.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT?
THAT WAS OUR ISSUE WITH THIS ONE.
1:38:31PM >> LET ME GIVE YOU SOME FURTHER BACKGROUND AS TO THIS PIECE.
COUNCIL PUT FORWARD THE REMOVAL OF THE OATH, THE ONLINE
RECORDS REFLECTED THIS WAS ALREADY GONE.
UP UNTIL THIS WAS DISCOVERED DURING THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION PROCESS, MUNICODE ONLINE INCLUDED THAT.
THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED TO THE VOTERS AND ALREADY
ASSUMED THIS PIECE HAD ALREADY BEEN REMOVED PREVIOUSLY.
SO THAT IS WHY IT'S COMING FORWARD TO YOU IN THE SAME MANNER
BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS, ANYONE LOOKING AT THE CHARTER OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA WOULD HAVE SEEN THIS LANGUAGE STRICKEN.
1:39:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TRYING TO BE BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE.
1:39:08PM >>KEN TINKLER:
CORRECT.
1:39:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, MY QUESTION IS STILL WITH THE WORD
OFFICER AND NOT -- BECAUSE THE CONFUSION IS OFFICER VERSUS
ELECTED.
BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE THAT ELECTED HAS TO BE RESIDENT OF THE
CITY.
BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT OFFICER IS IN THERE.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE HAS TO SUBSCRIBE
TO AN OATH?
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A THING.
1:39:40PM >>KEN TINKLER:
YEAH, THE BEST WAY I CAN POINT OUT, THE
OFFICERS ARE DEFINED IN 6.01 WHICH INCLUDES THE MAYOR, CITY
COUNCIL, CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND
GOES ON AND ON.
THAT'S WHERE THIS PROVISION SITS.
1:39:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO THOSE FOLKS HAVE TO SWEAR AN OATH, THE
CITY CLERK?
1:40:02PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THERE IS AN OATH OF OFFICE TODAY IN THE
CHARTER.
1:40:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST MAKING SURE.
MY ONLY THING IS I WOULD LIKE THERE TO BE A DEFINING
DEFINITION OR A DIFFERENCE.
RESIDENT OF THE CITY SHOULD BE AN ELECTED.
BUT I GUESS WE TAKE IT OUT, EITHER NEITHER HARM NOR FOUL.
1:40:26PM >>KEN TINKLER:
CORRECT, THIS IS PURELY TO REFLECT THE PRIOR
COUNCIL'S INTENT.
1:40:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST TALKING THROUGH IT.
THANK YOU.
THIS IS OKAY WITH ME THEN.
1:40:33PM >>KEN TINKLER:
HAPPY TO.
1:40:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT.
1:40:36PM >>KEN TINKLER:
NEXT ONE, REEMPLOYMENT.
THIS WAS SOLELY A CLEANUP ITEM.
GETTING RID OF THE 1976 PROVISION.
THERE ARE VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS POST-SERVICE ON COUNCIL
RELATED TO LOBBYING.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE A LOT OF THAT.
THIS IS VERY TAMPA SPECIFIC ABOUT THE IDEA THAT YOU WOULD
NOT MOVE INTO A CITY-PAID POSITION FOR AT LEAST A YEAR DOWN
THE ROAD.
1:41:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY
EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO 1976 AND REMOVING THE LANGUAGE?
I'M SORRY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I DID IT AGAIN.
THAT IS THE SECOND TIME TODAY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO
1976 THAT --
1:41:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
1:41:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
1:41:24PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WE HAD A LOT OF CLEANUP FOCUS WITH THIS
COMMISSION.
1:41:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS MR. TINKLER SAYING, CHAIR, SHUT
THE BLANK UP SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS.
1:41:34PM >>KEN TINKLER:
SECTION 10.07, ANOTHER ITEM ALSO PLACED IN
THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS INTENDED TO REACH THE BALLOT IN 2018.
THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT LED TO US FINDING OUT THAT THEY DID
NOT REACH THE BALLOT.
ONE OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEMBERS HAD ASKED FOR
THE ORDINANCE THAT IS SET FORTH IN THE BLUE TEXT, BASICALLY
AN IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCE ON HOW YOU DO AN INITIATIVE AND
REFERENDUM, AND WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS NOT ONE.
SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE BALL ROLLING IN TERMS OF THE
ANALYSIS.
IT'S SIMPLY AGAIN TO PUT BACK THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS INTENDED
TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT PREVIOUSLY.
1:42:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:42:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
GOING BACK TO THE RESIDENCY, I WAS LOOKING
FOR THE BALLOT LANGUAGE.
I FINALLY FOUND IT.
IT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WAS ON THE BALLOT.
SHALL THE AMENDMENT TO SECTION 6.01 OF THE TAMPA CHARTER
REVISING THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OFFICERS OF THE
CITY WHO CONDUCT GOVERNMENT TO APPLY ONLY TO ELECTED
OFFICIALS AS SET OUT AND PROPOSED BY CITY OF TAMPA ORDINANCE
NUMBER BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BE RATIFIED.
MY POINT WHICH I BROUGHT UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THE TIME
IS THIS IS MISLEADING.
I KNOW NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF IT.
I THINK IT WAS INTENTIONALLY WRITTEN TO BE MISLEADING,
BECAUSE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS THAT WE'RE REAFFIRMING THAT
THE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY WHEN
WHAT WE ACTUALLY WERE DOING WAS REMOVING THE RESIDENCY
REQUIREMENT FOR THE NONELECTED LEADERS OF THE CITY.
HAD IT BEEN WRITTEN THAT WAY, IT WOULD BE A VALID WAY TO
FIND OUT WHAT THE PUBLIC THOUGHT.
BUT THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN HERE, I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY
INVALID BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY TO MISLEAD THE
PUBLIC.
1:43:34PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I WILL MOVE FORWARD.
ANY QUESTIONS ON 10.07?
ALL RIGHT.
NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE BASED UPON YOUR
WORKSHOP LAST WEEK AND WHAT I WAS PROVIDED.
THE FIRST ONE IS STAFF, FORGIVE ME, ON THE SLIDES ON THIS
ONE, WASN'T A GOOD WAY TO BREAK IT DOWN.
I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHERE THIS EDIT IS BEING PLACED.
END OF SECTION 2.04, INDICATING A DESIRE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT STAFF, WHETHER IT BE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
OR OTHERWISE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATIVE
FUNCTION.
WE ADDED LANGUAGE TO PROVIDE FOR INCLUDING ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT STAFF AND BROADENED IT FROM LEGISLATIVE TO ANY CITY
COUNCIL FUNCTION AND PUT THAT THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED
WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET.
THIS ACTUALLY WAS LANGUAGE FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION THAT WAS CONCERNED WITH THE WORD BOUND INDICATED
SOMETHING LESS THAN AN ALLOCATION.
IT DID REMOVE THE PROVISION THAT THE MAYOR HAD TO APPROVE
THAT BASED ON WHAT I HEARD FROM YOUR WORKSHOP.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROVISION?
MOVING ON.
THIS IS A NEW SECTION TO BE PROPOSED.
SECTION 2.15.
YOU INDICATED THE DESIRE TO HAVE AN OVERRIDE PROVISION
REGARDING THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE A DEFINED ITEM IN SECTION 4.01.
AN ORDER IS ISSUED, IT IS PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
THERE IS A PROCESS ALREADY DEFINED.
GIVEN A PROCESS, WE HOOKED IT TO THAT PROCESS, AND WE USED
THE TERM RENDERED VOID.
OVERRIDE, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BEST LEGAL CONNOTATION, SO WE
WANTED TO FIND A TERM THERE THAT HOPEFULLY MATCHES UP TO THE
INTENT THAT YOU HAD.
WE DID PROVIDE AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF NO LESS THAN FIVE
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND THAT YOU WOULD ACT BY RESOLUTION.
WE ALSO TO PREVENT A VICIOUS CIRCLE OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS
BEING READOPTED, WE INCLUDED A PROVISION THAT THEY CANNOT BE
READOPTED WITHOUT A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.
THEY SAY A CONSENT DURING THE TERM OF OFFICE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON 2.15?
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT HOW YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO.
1:46:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I PARTICULARLY LIKE THE LAST SENTENCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANTICIPATING THAT.
1:46:06PM >>KEN TINKLER:
YOU'RE WELCOME.
1:46:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
1:46:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO SAY I'M AGAINST THIS AS IT'S
WRITTEN RIGHT NOW.
IF THERE WAS SOME TEST TO SAY THAT IT WAS -- THAT THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS IN SOME WAY AGAINST THE CHARTER,
VIOLATION OF THE CHARTER, USURPING THE POWER OF CITY
COUNCIL, THEN I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THIS.
BY THE WAY, I WAS DISAPPOINTED LAST WEEK AFTER WE TALKED,
THE MAYOR'S QUOTE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I HOPE DID NOT COME
FROM CITY STAFF SINCE IT WAS POLITICAL, IT SAID THAT SHE WAS
DISAPPOINTED THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO A POWER GRAB.
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN THE OPPOSITE IN THE LAST 15 YEARS.
BY USING TERMS LIKE STRONG MAYOR, THE LAST TWO MAYORS HAVE
TAKEN POWER AWAY FROM CITY COUNCIL.
ALL WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS PUT IT BACK.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY FIGHTS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST
SEVEN YEARS.
AS AN ACTIVIST, I'VE HELPED THE PRIOR COUNCIL FIGHT BACK,
BUT IT'S NOT A POWER GRAB WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REESTABLISH
THE CHARTER AND THE POWERS THAT ARE GRANTED TO CITY COUNCIL
AND THE CHARTER.
WHEN MAYORS USURP THAT POWER, I THINK CITY COUNCIL HAS EVERY
RIGHT TO COME BACK AND DO IT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE THE MAYOR CONTROLS THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT AND THE STAFF AND RESOURCES, PURCHASING, THEY
CONTROL THE TOOLS TO TRY TO REMEDY ANYTHING.
AND THERE'S ALSO NO PROVISION FOR US TO HAVE A CONFLICT OR
DEAL WITH A CONFLICT.
ALL THIS REALLY DOES IS ENABLES US TO -- OR FUTURE CITY
COUNCIL TO UNDO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
IF A MAYOR, LIKE THE LAST TWO, IS INTENT ON USURPING THE
POWER OF CITY COUNCIL, THEY'LL FIND OTHER WAYS TO DO IT.
1:47:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:47:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY QUESTION TO FOLKS, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY,
WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS?
IS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
REMEDY?
IS IT A PRINCIPLE ISSUE?
CLARITY ON THE RATIONALE JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.
HAS THERE BEEN SOMETHING, AN EXECUTIVE ORDER DONE BY THIS
MAYOR OR PRIOR MAYOR?
THAT'S MY CURIOSITY.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHARTER --
1:48:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THE ISSUE, AND I HAD THIS
CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR AS WELL.
THE ISSUE IS, IF COUNCIL HAS AN ACTION OR RESOLUTION AND
THEN THE MAYOR HAS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THEY CONFLICT,
AGAIN, MAYBE, MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT A
LITTLE BIT.
1:48:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF HE WANTS A WHEN THIS HAPPENED, THE POLICE
REVIEW COMMISSION IS THE SOLID ONE.
SO WE WANT TO PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM HAPPENING
AGAIN BECAUSE IT TOOK ALL THE TEETH OUT OF WHAT A COUNCIL
WANTED TO DO.
1:48:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER FIVE VOTES.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET FIVE VOTES, UNLESS SOMETHING IS
VERY, VERY CLEAR.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:49:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION.
THE ONLY TIME THAT THIS HAS EVER BEEN CHALLENGED WAS WAY
BACK IN THE MID 70s.
I LEFT HERE IN '79 AND DIDN'T COME BACK UNTIL SOMETIME IN
THE EARLY '90s.
WHAT I'M SAYING, IT WAS A VOTE ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS, THAT
MAYOR POE HAD NOT WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
FIREFIGHTERS AND HE WROTE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER NOT GIVING HIM
A PAY RAISE, IF I REMEMBER.
THEY CALLED US THE FABULOUS FIVE, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL
US, FULL-PAGE AD RUN IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THEY NAMED THE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO OVERRODE THE MAYOR
ON THIS SAME FIVE VOTES.
VERY DIFFICULT TO GET FIVE VOTES.
IT'S NOT EASY.
THE ONLY TIME I REMEMBER IT WAS IN THE 1975 OR '76 WHEN IT
HAPPENED.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I REMEMBER IN MY 32 YEARS HERE ON
AND OFF.
1:50:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOME DAYS IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET FOUR
VOTES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
1:50:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE EXAMPLE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
MENTIONED IS THE BIGGEST ONE I REMEMBER.
THE PROBLEM IS, THERE'S NO CONFLICT RESOLUTION PROCESS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE PUT TO THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION.
I GUESS THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR
DISAGREE.
BY THE WAY, SOMEONE WHO IS REALLY A STRONG MAYOR DOESN'T
WORRY ABOUT THE POWERS OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY BECAUSE THEY
UNDERSTAND COLLABORATION.
IT'S A WEAK MAYOR WHO IS WORRIED ABOUT SOMEBODY TAKING THEIR
POWER.
BECAUSE POWER IS NOT GIVEN BY TITLE OR EVEN BY A CHARTER.
IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATING AND COLLABORATING.
BUT IN THIS CASE -- IN THAT CASE, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT
THEY ULTIMATELY WENT TO GWYNNE YOUNG, FORMER FLORIDA BAR
PRESIDENT, AND ASKED FOR OPINION.
SHE'S A GREAT PERSON.
NOT QUESTIONING HER AT ALL.
BUT SHE WAS HIRED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO REPORTS TO THE
MAYOR.
HOW DO WE HAVE AN OBJECTIVE BODY -- OR WE CAN'T -- THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS NO ABILITY TO FILE A LAWSUIT, WE CAN'T GO TO
COURT, CAN'T GET A JUDGE TO RULE.
WE HAVE NO ARBITRATION PROCESS.
NO WAY TO HANDLE A DISPUTE BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL.
IN THAT CASE, AS AN ACTIVIST BACK THEN, I THOUGHT THE
ADMINISTRATION WAS COMPLETELY WRONG.
AND THEN ANOTHER CASE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL WAS THE
IDEA OF NAMING BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES.
THE MAYOR WAS GOING TO -- THIS MAYOR WAS GOING TO PUT
FORWARD EXECUTIVE ORDER AND I MADE THE ARGUMENT AND I THINK
MOST PEOPLE AGREE, THAT THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE CHARTER
THAT GAVE THE MAYOR THE RIGHT TO NAME BUILDINGS, AND THE
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY ARGUED WITH US.
WENT TO MY OWN ATTORNEYS AND ASKED THEM, YEAH, IT WAS NOT IN
THE CHARTER.
BUT FROM A CITY COUNCIL VERSUS MAYOR POINT OF VIEW, HOW DO
WE RESOLVE THAT?
FINALLY WE RESOLVED THROUGH DISCUSSION.
THE MAYOR CREATED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AND CODIFIED IT THROUGH
AN ORDINANCE, SO IT WAS RESOLVED EXCEPT FOR ONE PART OF IT,
WHICH WAS TO PROHIBIT THINGS BEING NAMED AFTER PEOPLE WHO
COMMITTED CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.
BUT THE REST OF IT WAS.
AND THE POINT IS THAT WE NEED A PROCESS FOR CONFLICT
RESOLUTION SOMEWHERE.
1:52:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND
LISTEN TO YOUR REMARKS, YOU'LL FIND YOU ALMOST MAKE THE CASE
FOR THIS WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO WHAT YOU SAID.
I THINK PART OF IT, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, I'M MORE OF AN
ANALYTICAL GUY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT PERSONALITY AND FEELINGS.
IT'S ABOUT ISSUES.
THE ISSUES RISE AND FALL.
YOU WIN SOME, YOU LOSE SOME, AND WE MOVE ON.
IF THERE'S AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, ONE PERSON MAKES AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER, AND THEN FIVE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT IS SO WRONG THAT
YOU CAN PULL TOGETHER FIVE VOTES TO OVERRIDE THAT EXECUTIVE
ORDER, THAT'S JUST POLICY IN GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S GOVERNANCE.
SAME THING THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF
GOVERNMENTS ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.
THIS IS JUST A PROCESS AND REALLY IT TAKES THE PERSONALITY
OUT OF IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I DID THAT YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA,
BUT FIVE OF US GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED IT WASN'T A GOOD
IDEA.
LET'S MOVE ON.
1:53:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MENTION ONE MORE EXAMPLE?
1:53:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVEN'T EXHAUSTED IT YET.
LET'S GO QUICK.
1:53:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE WE HONORED FRANK REDDICK THIS MORNING,
ONE WAS WHEN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES DID A SERIES ON WHAT WAS
CALLED BIKING WHILE BLACK.
FRANK REDDICK, WHO I THINK WAS CHAIR AT THE TIME SAID ON A
TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY SAID I'M GOING TO PROPOSE TO CITY
COUNCIL THAT WE ASK THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOR A CIVIL
RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.
THURSDAY MORNING AT 8 A.M., AN HOUR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL WAS
ABLE TO MEET, THE THEN MAYOR AND CHIEF OF POLICE HELD A
PRESS CONFERENCE TO SAY THEY HAD INVITED THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TO COME IN AND DO A COPS INVESTIGATION, WHICH IS A
PROCESS ANALYSIS, NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.
THEY CONFUSED THE PUBLIC BY GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT FRANK DID AT THAT POINT, BUT I THINK
WHAT THEY DID IS THEY INTENTIONALLY OBFUSCATED AND TOOK THE
COMMUNITY IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
AT THAT POINT, WHEN THE TIMES WROTE THAT SERIES, WE NEEDED
TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ANALYZE WHAT HAPPENED.
FIGURE OUT WHAT MISTAKES MIGHT HAVE BEEN MADE AND THEN FIX
IT AND BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
INSTEAD IT CAUSED ALL KINDS OF DIVISIVENESS OVER SEVERAL
MONTHS.
THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE WHERE IT WASN'T AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, BUT
THE MAYOR AND THEN THE POLICE CHIEF AT THE TIME WHO IS NOW
THE MAYOR TODAY, DECIDED TO NOT ACT IN THE INTEREST OF THE
PUBLIC, BUT ACT IN THE INTEREST OF THEMSELVES BY PROTECTING
THEMSELVES FROM THE THINGS THEY HAD DONE IN ORDERING THE
POLICE TO ENACT THAT PROGRAM.
1:54:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M GOING TO STILL SUGGEST THAT YOU GO
BACK AND WATCH THIS AGAIN.
1:54:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY POINT IS IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT EXECUTIVE
ORDERS.
PRESS CONFERENCE, THEY INVITED THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO DO
AN ANALYSIS.
1:55:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SINCE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION ON THIS, I'LL
SAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THIS LANGUAGE, SIGNIFY
BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED?
1:55:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
1:55:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THAT FOR US FOR THE
RECORD?
1:55:16PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
1:55:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MR. TINKLER, MOVE ON.
1:55:23PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THANK YOU.
THE NEXT PROVISION IS IN BOTH SECTION 4.01, EXISTING
LANGUAGE, AND THEN NEW SECTION 4.03.
YOU HAD INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE A PROVISION
THAT SOMEONE COULD NOT SERVE TWO TERMS AS MAYOR AND THEN
LATER RETURN TO SERVE ANOTHER TWO TERMS.
YOU ALSO INDICATED YOU DID NOT WANT THIS EFFECTIVE UNTIL THE
ADOPTION OF THIS LANGUAGE, MAY NOT AFFECT ANYONE RUNNING FOR
OFFICE.
WE COULDN'T FIND A CLEAN WAY OF INSERTING IT WITHIN THE
OVERALL 4.01.
THIS IS A SNAPSHOT AS YOU CAN SEE OF A MUCH LONGER SECTION
THAT WOULD FILL UP THE ENTIRE PowerPoint.
WE CARVED IT OUT TO A SEPARATE SECTION TO LAY IT OUT, SERVED
AS MAYOR, ACTED AS MAYOR FOR MORE THAN A TOTAL OF SIX YEARS,
THAT MIRRORS THE LANGUAGE IN THE TERM LIMITS --
1:56:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT SHOULD BE EIGHT YEARS.
WE HAVE TWO FOUR-YEAR TERMS.
1:56:19PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I UNDERSTAND.
THE IDEA IS TO PICK UP A PARTIAL TERM.
THAT IS WHY SIX YEARS IS INDICATED.
IF SOMEONE WAS ELECTED TO A PARTIAL TERM OF MORE THAN TWO
YEARS, THAT THEY WOULD THEN ALSO BE SUBJECT TO THIS.
THIS IS HOW THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION DEALS WITH THIS
PROVISION AND ALSO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHARTER USES
SIMILAR LANGUAGE.
1:56:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:56:47PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF I COULD JUST CONCLUDE ON THIS PIECE.
1:56:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY.
1:56:51PM >>KEN TINKLER:
ON THE TIME SERVED AS MAYOR, THAT IS THE LAST
SENTENCE TO PREVENT ANYONE FROM APPLYING WHO HAS BEEN MAYOR
IN THE PAST.
THIS WOULD BE A GOING FORWARD PROVISION.
1:57:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:57:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HOPE THIS MAYOR AND HER PACS LIKE THEY DID
LAST TIME RUN AN AD, THIS IS A DEVIOUS PLOT BY COUNCIL TO
GIVE MAYORS AN ADDITIONAL SIX YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DID AGAINST THE CHARTER PROVISION THAT
LIMITED CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT STARTED WHEN IT WAS
APPROVED, WHICH IS WHAT THINGS USUALLY DO.
I THINK THIS IS OKAY THE WAY IT IS.
I BELIEVE IN TURNOVER, WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT RUNNING FOR CITY
COUNCIL AGAIN.
I THINK IT'S OKAY THAT PEOPLE DO THAT.
I BELIEVE IN GIVING OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE.
IN THIS CASE WITH THE MAYOR, WHICH HAPPENS TO HAVE A LOT OF
POWER, I THINK THAT THE WAY THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN, THERE IS
A BALANCE OF POWER BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, BUT WE'VE SEEN THAT WE NEED A CHANGE EVERY EIGHT
YEARS.
1:58:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAD THESE THOUGHTS AND WILL EXPRESS THEM
NOW.
I HAVE TWO CONCERNS.
NUMBER ONE, IN GENERAL, I ACTUALLY SUPPORT A STRONG TERM
LIMIT FOR MAYOR.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS I HAVE.
ONE IS UNIQUELY TAILORED TO THE FORTHCOMING ELECTION, WHICH
IS THIS COULD BE RELEVANT AS AN ARGUMENT IN THE FORTHCOMING
ELECTION.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, RIGHT?
ANOTHER ISSUE IS, WITH REGARDS TO CITY COUNCIL, IS CITY
COUNCIL PASSED CHARTER AMENDMENT LAST TIME FOR TERM LIMITS
FOR US THAT ALLOWED US FOR 8, 16 YEARS TO BOUNCE FROM SEAT
TO SEAT.
BY THE WAY, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THAT.
PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT.
DON'T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME.
I DON'T CARE.
BUT MY POINT IS, THIS ACTUALLY MAKES THE EXECUTIVE HAVE MORE
RESTRICTIONS THAN WE GAVE OURSELVES.
I ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT SOME LEVEL OF STRONGER TERM LIMITS FOR
MAYOR.
I DO.
BUT I THINK IT'S THE WRONG YEAR.
IT ACTUALLY, AGAIN, IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT CITY
COUNCIL, WHAT WE GAVE OURSELVES.
THAT'S MY CHALLENGE WITH THAT.
I PUT THAT OUT THERE.
1:59:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:59:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
FOR MORE THAN TOTAL OF SIX YEARS.
OKAY.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING IF SOMEONE SERVES A PARTIAL TERM,
THEY CAN'T SERVE A THIRD TERM.
1:59:26PM >>KEN TINKLER:
A PARTIAL TERM OF MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
1:59:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD BE CONSIDERED A FULL.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S RIGHT AND I KIND OF THINK THAT
COUNCIL SHOULD BE THE SAME WAY.
THAT'S I GUESS NOT -- YEAH.
I UNDERSTAND, COUNCILMAN VIERA, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT.
I ALSO FEEL THE MAYOR HAS A LOT MORE POWER.
I THINK A COUNCIL MEMBER ONLY HAS A SEVENTH OF THE POWER OF
THIS BODY, WHEREAS A MAYOR IS WILDLY DIFFERENT.
I DO SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK THIS IS GOOD LANGUAGE.
2:00:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I SAW YOU LOOKING --
2:00:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M LOOKING AT IT.
I SEE BOTH SIDES.
YOU COULD SERVE FIVE YEARS, 320 DAYS AND RUN.
RIGHT OR WRONG?
2:00:19PM >>KEN TINKLER:
ABSOLUTELY.
2:00:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:00:22PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WHERE THE LINE YOU WISH TO DRAW IS UP TO YOU.
2:00:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LINE HAS TO BE DRAWN SOMEWHERE, BUT IT
DOESN'T FULFILL THE EIGHT YEARS.
2:00:34PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THE LANGUAGE -- WE CAN MAKE IT TWO TERMS.
INDICATION TO COVER ACTING MAYOR, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE
LINES.
2:00:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND THE POINT.
2:00:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WISH TO SPEAK
AGAIN?
2:00:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO THE POINT -- TWO POINTS THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA MADE, ONE IS THE TWO COUNCIL POSITIONS VERSUS
THE MAYOR.
I THINK THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
DISTRICT POSITION IS DIFFERENT THAN A CITYWIDE POSITION.
BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES.
I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS FROM A POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW, I
DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO WILL HAVE THE MONEY OR INTEREST IN
USING THIS AS A WEDGE IN A CAMPAIGN.
2:01:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS, THEY ARE
LOSING.
2:01:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE THE CANDIDATE YOU WOULD BE TALKING
ABOUT HAS ENOUGH ISSUES WITHOUT THIS TO DISCUSS.
2:01:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID
ABOUT THE COUNCIL POSITIONS.
GENERALLY I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF TERM LIMITS, BY THE WAY.
I THINK YOU SEAT MESS THAT CREATED IN TALLAHASSEE.
THAT BEING SAID, THE APPETITE IN TAMPA IS THERE.
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
I DO THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
WE HAVE TERM LIMITS FOR US.
EACH PERSON CAN ONLY SERVE TWO TERMS IN THEIR POSITION, AND
THEN THEY SWITCH.
YOU ALL MADE THE CHARTER AMENDMENT CAPPING THAT AT TWO AND
TWO.
HOLD EACH POSITION TWICE, RIGHT?
2:02:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
YOU CAN STAY OUT FOR FOUR YEARS AND POP RIGHT BACK IN.
2:02:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S INTERESTING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ME.
I'M GOING TO RUN FOR ONE MORE TERM.
TWO TERMS AND I'M DONE.
I WILL WRITE THAT IN STONE FOR ALL OF YOU.
FIND ME ON THE BEACH IN SPAIN.
VERY GOOD.
INSTEAD OF DISCUSSION, LET'S HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ONE.
2:02:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
-- UNLESS YOU DON'T FEEL NEED FOR A SECOND.
2:02:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO DO A GENERAL VOTE AT THE
END ACCEPTING EVERYTHING WE DID.
MOTION TO ACCEPT --
2:02:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONE THING COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SAID THAT
PART OF 403 COULD BE USED IN THIS ELECTION.
AS A POLITICAL THING, TALKING ABOUT IT.
IT CAN'T BE USED.
IT SHOULD BE PRECLUDED UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
MAKE IT FAIR.
2:03:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MARTY, SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT MY POSITION
WAS, WE ARE GOING TO BASICALLY REACH AGREEMENT OR NOT
AGREEMENT AND THEN NOT HAVE A DEFINITIVE VOTE ON EACH ONE OF
THESE FOR THE RECORD UNTIL THE END IN CASE WE HAVE TO GO
BACK AND REVISIT SOMETHING, WE DON'T HAVE TO REOPEN IT.
ONE VOTE AT THE END ACCEPTING ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS LANGUAGE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED?
2:03:31PM >> NAY.
2:03:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
4.03, NAY.
2:03:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S 5-2 WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OPPOSED.
IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL MOTION, BUT FOR THE RECORD, BUT YOU CAN
SAY THE INTENT OF COUNCIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE'LL HAVE THE OFFICIAL VOTE AT THE END, WHICH ONES ACCEPTED
AND WHICH ONES NOT.
GO AHEAD.
2:03:56PM >>KEN TINKLER:
UNDERSTOOD.
THIS NEXT SECTION, AMENDMENT TO 6.03.
THIS IS TO CHANGE THE POWER OF REMOVAL OF OFFICERS THAT'S
PRESENTLY VESTED EXCLUSIVELY IN THE MAYOR TO PROVIDE THAT
THE COUNCIL MAY REMOVE AN OFFICER APPOINTED UNDER THIS
SECTION, FOLLOWING, WE DID INCLUDE FOR DUE PROCESS SAKE
GRANTING THE MAYOR AND THE OFFICER THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
HEARD AT A PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF NO
FEWER THAN FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
WE ALSO HAD, AGAIN, TO PREVENT A CIRCLE, INCLUDED A
PROVISION THAT AN OFFICER REMOVED CANNOT BE GRANTED INTERIM
APPOINTMENT NOR REMAIN AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.
2:04:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS ONE I KNOW THAT HAS PROBABLY SOME
OF THE MOST ENERGY.
I KNOW I SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR.
OF COURSE, THE MAYOR FEELS STRONGLY AGAINST THIS AND OTHER
FOLKS I'VE SPOKEN TO.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU EXPRESSED STRONG OPINIONS.
I'LL LET YOU SPEAK ON THIS FIRST.
2:04:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
MY FEELING IS THIS.
WHO ARE WE GOING TO GET TO SERVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
POSITION OF DIRECTOR OF WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IT IS THAT IS
CONFIRMED BY THE COUNCIL BUT APPOINTED OR RECOMMENDED BY THE
MAYOR, THAT BECOMES TO ME MORE POLITICAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE
THAT YOU MUST FOLLOW SOMETHING.
WITH FIVE VOTES, ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL, ANY FIVE VOTES OF
THE COUNCIL -- WHO WILL GET THE BEST QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS
TO WORK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
WOULD DO YOU THAT IN YOUR LAW FIRM?
THE ANSWER IS NO.
I CAN TELL BY YOUR SMILE THE ANSWER IS NO.
ANY BIG LAW FIRM HAS MAYBE HUNDRED, 200, 2,000, 3,000
ATTORNEYS, YOU TAKE THIS TO THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST, THEY'LL
GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY WILL NEVER COME WORK FOR YOU.
THE SAME LOGIC I'M APPLYING IT TO HERE.
WHO WILL TELL A GENERAL THAT WITH FIVE VOTES OF FIVE
SERGEANTS, YOU ARE NOT GENERAL ANYMORE IN THE UNITED STATES
MILITARY.
I'M TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT.
IN REALITY, PRACTICALITY, HOW IT WORKS, WHO IN THE HELL WILL
COME WORK HERE?
THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST OR THE ONES LEAST EXPECTED TO LAST
FIVE YEARS?
THAT'S ALL.
2:06:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:06:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE MAYBE IN THE TIME OF COVID, IT WAS THE
PREVIOUS TERM, WHEN WE WERE HIRING A CRA DIRECTOR AND WE
HIRED A CRA DIRECTOR I THINK FROM THE ORLANDO AREA.
AND THE NEXT DAY, YOU WEREN'T HERE YET -- YOU WERE HERE.
WASN'T IN THE TIME OF DINGFELDER, GUDES?
WELL, WHATEVER.
WE WERE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND WE HIRED AN INDIVIDUAL.
THAT PERSON PROBABLY WATCHED US IN ACTION REFUSE IT THE NEXT
DAY.
MY QUESTION IS, YES, IT'S HARD TO GET FIVE VOTES, BUT THINGS
GET POLITICAL AND WHO WOULD WANT TO TAKE THE JOB MEANING,
WHO IS GOING TO RELOCATE HERE?
IF YOU WANT TO GET THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST AND THEY ARE FROM
OUT OF TOWN, MAYBE I'M OVERTHINKING OF IT, THINKING BACK TO
THE TIME WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL SAID YES AND THEN NO.
THAT'S WHERE I STAND.
2:07:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS THE LAST COUNCIL.
THE LAST COUNCIL WE WERE A LITTLE MORE --
2:07:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
INTERESTING.
2:07:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
-- WELL, WE DIDN'T SEE EYE TO EYE A LOT ON
THAT PARTICULAR COUNCIL.
THIS COUNCIL WORKS BETTER TOGETHER.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
BUT MY THING ABOUT THIS, ALL THIS MEANS IS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HEADS NEED TO WORK WITH EACH OF US AS MUCH AS
THEY WORK WITH THE MAYOR.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T REALLY SEEM TO HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH
THAT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE, BUT OVERALL, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT
PEOPLE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AS LONG AS THEY ARE WORKING WITH
EVERYONE.
SO WHAT I THINK THAT DOES IS JUST ENCOURAGE THAT.
I DON'T THINK AT ALL, BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, THE MAYOR CAN
FIRE SOMEONE TOMORROW.
WHENEVER YOU WORK AT A JOB, YOU HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT
YOUR EMPLOYER DOESN'T HAVE TO KEEP YOU.
EVEN IF IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON.
TO ME, THAT ARGUMENT IS NOT AN ARGUMENT THAT SWAYS ME.
2:08:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:08:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MY PHILOSOPHY WITH THE CHARTER.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT THE CHARTER LIKE IT IS THE
U.S. CONSTITUTION.
I DON'T SEE IT LIKE THAT.
JAMES MADISON DIDN'T WRITE THIS THING.
THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT SOME HERALDED ARK OF THE
COVENANT --
2:08:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SAID IT WASN'T BROUGHT BY GOD --
2:08:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOUNT SINAI -- WHATEVER.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO AMENDING THE CHARTER.
I REMEMBER LAST TIME WE OVERRODE THE MAYOR I THINK IT WAS IN
FIVE VETOES.
I VOTED TO OVERRIDE ALL FIVE.
FOR THOSE THAT I VOTED FOR.
I'M NOT PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
MY CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS THIS.
I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO SOME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
APPOINTEES.
IF IT WAS MORE STRICTLY DEFINED AS LIKE IMPEACHMENT ON THE
FEDERAL LEVEL WHERE IT'S HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RELIED UPON WHERE A PERSON
GOES, MAN, IF THEY IMPEACH ME, I GOT IT COMING.
WHEREAS THIS, THIS IS, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, CAN KICK YOU
OUT.
THE ISSUE IS, WHO WILL COME AND WORK FOR THE CITY AND
RELOCATE, LEAVE A JOB, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE COUNTY OR
WHETHER IT'S COMING FROM KENTUCKY OR ANYTHING OF THAT
NATURE.
AGAIN, WHAT THIS IS COMING TOWARDS I'M SYMPATHETIC TO.
BUT AS WRITTEN, I THINK IT GRANTS US TOO MUCH DISCRETION
THAT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEBODY'S WILLINGNESS TO PACK
UP EVERYTHING AND GET IN THE WAGON TRAILER OR WHATEVER AND
COME TO TAMPA.
THAT'S MY CHALLENGE.
2:09:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I CHALLENGE YOU TO COMPLETE YOUR ENTIRE SPEECH WITHOUT
MENTIONING ONE PERSON'S NAME.
2:09:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ULTIMATE THING HERE IS THAT, WHY IS IT
THAT WE HAVE SO MANY MAYORS WHERE THERE'S NO CHAOS AND TWO
WHERE SUDDENLY THERE IS CHAOS AT CITY COUNCIL?
IT'S NOT CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL.
CREATED BY THE MAYOR USURPING THE POWER OF CITY COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL HAS TO PUSH BACK.
BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, CONTROL
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CONTROL THE POLITICAL DEPARTMENT.
PUSH AND TELL EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IT IS CITY
COUNCIL'S FAULT.
TEXT MESSAGES, WHICH YES, WE DO HAVE, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL SHOW
YOU THE TEXT MESSAGES.
YOU CAN SEND AS MANY E-MAILS AS YOU WANT, BUT THOSE TEXT
MESSAGES EXIST THAT THEY STIR UP TROUBLE ON CITY COUNCIL.
ILLEGAL AND UNETHICAL FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED.
I APPEALED TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF MULTIPLE TIMES.
CITY ATTORNEY, HR DEPARTMENT, THE MAYOR HERSELF AND SHE
REFUSES TO FIRE PEOPLE WHO BEHAVE BADLY.
IF I HAD AN EMPLOYEE WHO WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR TERRIBLE
HR COMPLAINTS AND THEN WE HAD TO PAY A HUGE FINE TO ONE
PLAINTIFF WHEN THERE ARE SEVERAL MORE IN LINE, I WOULD FIRE
THAT PERSON.
WHY IS IT IF A MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE A GUTS TO FIRE SOMEBODY
WHO WE HAD TO PAY A BIG FINE TO A PLAINTIFF, A FORMER
EMPLOYEE BECAUSE OF THAT SITUATION, WHY IS IT THAT CITY
COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIRE THE PERSON?
WE SHOULD.
WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS FROM OUR CRA STAFF AND OTHERS THAT
THE MAYOR HERSELF IS CALLING PEOPLE AND CURSING AND
SCREAMING AT THEM, WHY DO WE NOT HAVE RECOURSE IN THAT?
I WOULD HAVE FIRED THE MAYOR A LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE WHAT
SHE'S DOING IS UNACCEPTABLE.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS FIRING THE PEOPLE DOING IT, WHETHER ON HER
ORDERS OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S ORDER, SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.
WHY IS IT THIS MORNING WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE T-SHIRTS
BEING PRINTED.
FLORIDA LAW SAYS IT IS ILLEGAL TO POLITIC.
WHY IS IT WE HAVE THAT?
WHY IS IT TEXT MESSAGES AND OTHER EVIDENCE FROM SOUTH HOWARD
WHERE OUT OF THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE JUST IN SOUTH TAMPA
THAT WERE FLOODED, WHY IS IT WE HAVE 200 PEOPLE ANGRY
CALLING FOR INVESTIGATIONS AND ALL THIS STUFF?
BECAUSE WE HAD TWO OR THREE PEOPLE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
STIRRING UP TROUBLE, CREATING CONFLICT AMONG PEOPLE WHOSE
HOUSES FLOODED.
HOW TERRIBLE IS THAT?
SHOULD HAVE FIRED THE PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY.
THE FACT SHE DOESN'T MEANS SHE'S COMPLICIT IN IT.
THAT SHE WANTED IT.
COME DOWN HERE AND TELL US YOU DIDN'T ORDER THEM TO STIR UP
PROBLEMS AMONG PEOPLE WHOSE HOUSES FLOODED.
HOW TERRIBLE IS THAT?
MULTIPLE CITY ATTORNEYS, WITH UP IN 2018 DECLARE IN TWO
PARAGRAPH MEMO THAT CITY COUNCIL WAS NOT APPRISED OF THAT
THE CITY ATTORNEY NO LONGER HAD TO GET APPROVAL FOR
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS.
THAT WAS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL, COMPLETELY AGAINST THE CHARTER.
WE HAD TO SPEND SIX MONTHS FIGHTING ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT
CITY ATTORNEYS TO GET THAT UNDONE.
AND WE FINALLY DID.
THAT PERSON SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED.
WE HAD A CITY ATTORNEY WHO DECIDED NOT TO PUT THE CHARTER
AMENDMENTS ON THE BALLOT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE
CHARTER GROUP.
HOW IS IT THAT THERE'S NO RECOURSE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO DEAL
WITH THAT?
HOW IS IT THAT IF SOMEBODY -- HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE
TO HAVE MAKE COMPLAINTS, GO TO HR AND SUDDENLY THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE GETS INVOLVED AND UNDOES HR AND PROTECTS PEOPLE THAT
ARE YELLING AND SCREAMING AND DOING OTHER THINGS,
DISCRIMINATING AGAINST EMPLOYEES.
WHAT IS OUR RECOURSE SUPPOSED TO BE?
HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY IF
THE MAYOR HERSELF IS NOT WILLING TO PROTECT THEM?
HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS FROM CITY
ATTORNEYS WHO OPENLY BREAK THE LAW AND MISINTERPRET THE LAW.
WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TEETH IN THE CHARTER TO
FIGHT BACK AGAINST THAT, TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND TO
PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY.
THANK YOU.
2:13:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A COUPLE OF POINTS.
I HEAR WHAT -- BOTH -- ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS
SAYING.
I HEAR THE POINTS.
FOR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S OBJECTION, I ALSO SEE THE OTHER
SIDE OF THIS WHERE YOU HAVE I SAY THE CARROT AND THE STICK.
AS MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, ONE OF THE EXPECTATIONS
CITIZENS HAVE IS THEY CALL MY OFFICE TO RESOLVE ISSUES THEY
HAVE WITH THE CITY.
THE TRASH DIDN'T GET PICKED UP.
SO HOW WE ARE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE IS I CAN TURN
AROUND AND CALL CITY STAFF TO RESOLVE THAT.
IF YOU GET IN A SITUATION WHERE CITY STAFF REFUSES TO SPEAK
TO YOU OR REFUSES TO CALL YOU BACK, YOU CAN'T DO YOUR JOB.
I ACTUALLY WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE EXPERIENCED THAT SAME
SITUATION.
I HAD A DIRECTOR OF A DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT CALL ME BACK.
THAT'S WHAT FIRST GOT THIS IN MY HEADSET.
NOW, I WILL SAY THAT I AM -- I NO LONGER ENJOY THAT
DISPLEASURE.
I FIND THAT STAFF HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO ME SUBSEQUENT
TO THAT.
THAT WAS ONE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL.
SO I SEE WHERE THERE IS DEFINITELY A SYSTEMIC ISSUE, AND I
KNOW THERE WAS A TIME, A PREVIOUS MAYOR -- THIS IS
ANECDOTAL.
SOMEBODY MAY TELL ME I'M WRONG.
HAD AN EDICT OUT THAT THEIR SENIOR STAFF -- OR THEIR STAFF
WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY REVOKED SOON AFTERWARDS WHEN THEY FOUND
OUT HOW CHAOTIC IT BECAME.
BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY FORBIDDEN BY THE MAYOR TO SPEAK TO
CITY COUNCIL AT SOME POINT.
SO I SEE THAT POINT AS WELL.
BUT I'M ALSO VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID.
AND I DEFINITELY DO SEE IT NOW IN BLACK AND WHITE ON THE
SCREEN THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T
LIKE JOHN BENNETT.
I'M GOING TO ROUND UP FIVE VOTES TO FIRE JOHN BENNETT
WITHOUT CAUSE BECAUSE I THINK YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE CAUSE.
I WOULD ACTUALLY MAYBE CHALLENGE, MR. TINKLER, TO INSERT
LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SHOW -- YOU WOULD HAVE TO SHOW SOME TYPE
OF CAUSE OF THAT ACTION SO IT'S NOT JUST ME DISLIKING
SOMEBODY PERSONALLY, BUT THERE'S BEEN A CAUSE.
I KNOW THERE WAS A MAYOR SOME YEARS AGO, WHICH WE ALL KNOW
AND LOVE, THAT HAD A PROBLEMATIC EMPLOYEE THAT ENDED UP
GOING TO JAIL OVER SOME THINGS BUT REFUSED TO FIRE THAT
PERSON BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAD A STRONG CONNECTION TO
THAT PERSON AND REFUSED TO FIRE THAT PERSON.
THAT PERSON COMMITTED A CRIMINAL ACT.
YOU'VE GOT THOSE SITUATIONS.
I THINK IF WE HAD THIS TYPE OF LANGUAGE THAT HAD CAUSE IN
IT, AND THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE PALATABLE.
ANY THOUGHTS?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN BACK FOR ROUND TWO.
2:16:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH FIVE MAYORS.
THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT YET ALL THE SAME.
DIFFERENT AND THE SAME?
YES.
DIFFERENT IN ATTITUDE, DIFFERENT IN PERSONALITIES, DIFFERENT
IN GETTING THINGS DONE.
HOWEVER, ONE THING IN COMMON, THEY ALL WANTED TO BE BETTER
THAN THE MAYOR THAT SERVED BEFORE THEM.
THEREFORE, IT GAVE US WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
A SUCCESSFUL CITY.
HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, THERE WAS ONE MAYOR THAT KNEW HOW
TO WORK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON, THAT'S THE
PERSONALITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL.
THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE IN HOW YOU PRESENT THINGS.
THAT MAYOR WOULD COME AND TALK TO EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK YOU NEED OR WHAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE
TO TALK TO ME ABOUT, I DON'T CARE HOW SMALL IT IS OR HOW BIG
IT IS, NO MATTER WHO IS IN MY OFFICE, YOU TELL THE
RECEPTIONIST THAT YOU WANT TO SEE ME AND I'M COMING OUT TO
TALK TO YOU.
YOU KNOW WHO THAT WAS, DICK GRECO.
HE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I CAN
KNOW OF.
NOT ONE.
NO MATTER WHO HE WAS TALKING TO.
I DON'T CARE IF IT WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, HE WOULD COME OUT.
THAT'S WHAT MADE HIM WHO HE WAS.
ACCESSIBLE.
SOME HAVE PERSONALITIES.
SOME DON'T HAVE PERSONALITY.
TO ME -- AND TIME IN HISTORY.
ONE MAYOR, POOR THING HAD TO LAY OFF 750 SOME PEOPLE.
THAT WAS PAM IORIO.
SHE HAD TO PLAY DEFENSE ON EVERYTHING SHE DID.
SHE DID WELL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA BY DOING THAT.
EVERYONE HAS TO FACE THE MILITARY SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE,
LIKE A COMBAT ZONE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE AMMUNITION, YOU CAN'T WIN THE WAR.
THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL HAS GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.
YOU MAY HEAR DIFFERENCES.
IF I HAVE TO TELL A MAN TO GO TO HELL, I DON'T CARE WHO IT
IS.
I TELL THEM PERSONALLY.
I DON'T WAIT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S OVER AS SOON AS I DO THAT.
THAT'S THE WAY YOU HAVE TO BE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME THAT.
2:18:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG HASN'T SPOKEN YET.
2:18:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ACTUALLY, THE POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP IS
ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
POINT, HAVING SOME KIND OF -- SOUNDS LIKE SOME KIND OF
SYSTEM OR SCORECARD OR A JUST REASONING AS TO WHY WE WOULD
MAKE THIS DECISION.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, BUT ALSO
UNDERSTANDING COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR POINT OF HAVING SOME
KIND OF RECOURSE FOR THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME.
I'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE YOU'RE TALKING TO DEPARTMENT HEADS,
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER, TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE.
I THINK THAT THIS JUST HAS THAT ACCOUNTABILITY BUT ALSO, AT
THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE ALL WANT TO WORK TOGETHER AND
KIND OF HAVE THIS CAMARADERIE TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
BUT I THINK HAVING LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT HAS SOME KIND OF
REASONING, IT'S NOT LIKE I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT YOU'RE
WEARING A BLUE TIE TODAY.
NO OFFENSE, CHARLIE.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IN THERE.
I LOVE YOUR BLUE TIE, CHARLIE.
I PROMISE.
2:20:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AGAIN, WITH ISSUES AS DISCUSSED, WHERE THERE ARE CONFLICTS
WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SO FORTH, IT'S TOO SUBJECTIVE.
EVEN THE THREAT.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
FIVE VOTES IS A LOT TO GET, BUT EVEN THE THREAT OF FOUR
VOTES OR THREE VOTES WILL REALLY SCARE SOMEBODY A LOT,
POTENTIALLY UNJUSTLY.
ONE THING I THOUGHT OF, THERE IS NO METHOD FOR IMPEACHMENT
OF -- I USE THE WORD IMPEACHMENT, WHATEVER, BUT OF CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WHY IN THE WORLD DON'T WE INCLUDE COUNCIL MEMBERS UNDER THIS
AS WELL FOR WHATEVER STANDARD IF WE PASS IT FOR DEPARTMENT
HEADS.
SO WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER?
THAT WE HAVE THAT IN LEGISLATIVE MATTERS AND OTHER BODIES.
WE HAVE THAT IN EXECUTIVE MATTERS IN OTHER BODIES.
I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
IF WE'RE THROWING SO MUCH SPOTLIGHT AND SO MUCH SCRUTINY ON
DEPARTMENT HEADS, WHICH, AGAIN, I'M OPEN TO SOME OF THAT.
WHY NOT LOOK AT COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL.
2:21:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T HAVE IMPEACHMENT OF THE MAYOR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:21:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA
ABOUT MAYOR GRECO.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ABOUT IT.
HE WOULD SAY -- I WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE CALL.
I TELL THEM TO COME TALK TO ME.
IF YOU'RE ENLIGHTENED AND IF YOU HAVE A STRONG PERSONALITY,
YOU WILL LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU AND YOU'LL
TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT.
IF YOU DON'T, YOU TRY TO FORCE YOUR OPINION.
THAT'S WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS CONFLICT.
BECAUSE WHOEVER IS MAYOR HAS TO REALIZE THEY ARE NOT KING OR
QUEEN.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE BODY.
NONE OF THE SEVEN OF US AGREE WITH EACH OTHER MUCH LESS WITH
THE MAYOR.
WHAT SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO DO IS BUILD CONSENSUS AMONG ALL OF
IT.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOMETHING OF CAUSE.
BUT THE MAYOR CONTROLS THE HR DEPARTMENT, THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT AND ALL THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THEY ALSO CONTROL THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND ULTIMATELY
THE FUNDS ONCE THEY ARE APPROVED SO WE CAN'T EVEN DO AN
INVESTIGATION OF SOMEBODY WITHOUT SOME PROCESS.
THIS IS THE FLAW WITH ALL THIS.
BY THE WAY, THE MAYOR DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPEACH CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SHE DID IT TWICE AND TRIED TO DO IT THREE TIMES IN THE LAST
TERM.
USE CITY RESOURCES TO WORK AGAINST CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS I
BELIEVE ILLEGALLY, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RECOURSE TO FIGHT
BACK AGAINST THAT.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO PAY LEGAL FEES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
I PAID 20 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS IN LEGAL FEES AND I GOT
REIMBURSED LIKE FIVE.
IT WAS A HORRIBLE SITUATION THAT THE CITY, THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE WAS USING CITY RESOURCES TO ATTACK THREE CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND ALMOST FOUR.
I MEAN, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE RIGHT TO -- IF WE HAD THE
RIGHT TO IMPEACH THE MAYOR, SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED
BACK THEN.
BUT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH BACK ESPECIALLY AGAINST
THE CITY ATTORNEY.
OUT OF ALL OF THE APPOINTEES, THE ONE THAT THE CHARTER
CLEARLY SAYS, ALSO REPORTS TO CITY COUNCIL IS THE CITY
ATTORNEY.
BUT UNTIL SCOTT STEADY, THAT REALLY HASN'T HAPPENED.
THEY ARE ALL GREAT PEOPLE.
I LOVE THEM ALL AND HAD LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH, I THINK ALL
OF THEM SINCE THEN.
WHOEVER IS THE MAYOR CONTROLS THEM AND PAYS THEIR BILLS AND
TELLS THEM WHAT TO DO.
WE NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE OF POWER WITH THAT.
IF WE SAY IT'S FOR CAUSE, BUT THEN EVERY COMPLAINT I'VE
MADE, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID, WELL, I CAN'T INVESTIGATE
IT.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING, SO WHAT ARE WE
SUPPOSED TO DO.
DOESN'T MATTER IF WHAT THE CITY STAFF ARE DOING IS ILLEGAL
OR UNETHICAL.
THEN THEY USE THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT TO FIGHT BACK,
CONSPIRACY THEORY OR PERSONALITY CONFLICT OR WHATEVER, NO,
RUNNING A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN USING TAXPAYER MONIES IS
AGAINST THE LAW.
THAT'S CLEAR.
THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, WE DEALT WITH THE SCARLET LOPEZ
CASE.
I RECOMMEND PEOPLE READ THE DEPOSITIONS OF THE SCARLET LOPEZ
CASE.
IF YOU READ THAT, IT'S ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.
I FEEL BADLY FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN
SUBJECT TO THAT KIND OF TREATMENT, NOT JUST IN THAT
DEPARTMENT, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL HAS NO
POWER IN THE CHARTER WHATSOEVER TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES IN THE
CITY.
IT'S TERRIBLE THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
WHEN YOU READ THE DEPOSITIONS OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF AND HOW
THEY TREATED AND HOW THEY WORKED TOGETHER, IT'S HORRIBLE.
2:24:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IN THIS FY '27 BUDGET, WE NOW HAVE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO
LEGISLATIVE INVESTIGATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE,
PER CHARTER, OUR LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY.
2:24:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIRE THEM WITHOUT
GOING THROUGH PURCHASING?
2:25:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIRE STAFF, THE LEGAL
STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT.
WE HAD THAT MONEY PUT IN, SO I HAVE THAT IN COUNCIL'S BUDGET
FOR FY '27.
SO THAT SHOULD RESOLVE PART OF WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
2:25:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SIMPLE, EASIEST ANSWER, IF CLENDENIN IS THE
CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL AND HE GOES TO THE MAYOR, WHOEVER THE
MAYOR IS AND SAYS, HEY, ONE OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS IS DOING
SOMETHING ILLEGAL, THE MAYOR SHOULD LOOK INTO IT.
IF DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, FIRE THEM.
SIMPLE WAY TO HANDLE IT.
2:25:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S INTERESTING.
HONESTLY, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP RIGHT
NOW.
IT WAS A ROUGH START WITH ME WHEN I FIRST STARTED.
BUT IT'S SMOOTHED OUT OVER THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
WE'VE HAD -- I'VE HAD CONTENTIOUS MEETINGS.
I'VE HAD SOME REALLY CONTENTIOUS MEETINGS.
I THINK GENERALLY WHEN I COME WITH CONCERNS DIRECTLY FOR
MYSELF, I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
AN EXAMPLE IS WHAT WE JUST DESCRIBED ABOUT THE STUFF
HAPPENING AT HANNA WITH THE ISSUE ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
THAT WAS ADDRESSED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY STAFF AND THAT'S
BEEN KILLED.
WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
THAT WAS ALL THROUGH DISCUSSION.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO
TALK.
I GUESS YOU HAD THE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL.
I BROUGHT THOSE CONCERNS UP.
IT'S BEEN RESOLVED BY STAFF.
ANYWAY, WITHOUT SPIRALING FURTHER INTO DISCUSSION HERE, I
KIND OF FEEL LIKE I HEARD THAT IF THIS WAS FOR CAUSE -- ARE
YOU COMFORTABLE TAKING THIS LANGUAGE AND TRYING TO FIND THAT
LANGUAGE TO INSERT IN THIS?
2:26:39PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I BELIEVE I NEED MORE DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR --
2:26:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY WITH FIVE
VOTES TO REMOVE WITH CAUSE.
2:26:47PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF I COULD, I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
ONE WOULD BE SIMPLY TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE REGARDING CAUSE
WITHIN THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE HERE, AND THE SECOND WAS MORE OF
A TRIAL, IMPEACHMENT, THAT KIND OF THING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING.
2:27:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR.
2:27:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL BE FRANK, ALL OF THE DISCUSSION ON THIS
HAS REALLY TURNED ME AWAY FROM THIS A LOT.
I'LL TALK, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MAYOR WITH MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
I VOTED TO OVERRIDE FIVE OF HER VETOES.
AFTER HURRICANE MILTON, SHE AND I ON SOME ISSUES, WE
DISAGREED A LOT.
WE HAD HEATED CONVERSATIONS.
ON FIRE STATIONS, WE DISAGREE ON CERTAIN THINGS.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISAGREEMENTS.
I'VE ALWAYS GOTTEN ALONG WITH HER.
I THINK SHE'S AN AMAZING PERSON.
I DO.
I THINK SHE IS A STELLAR PERSON, A PERSON OF HUMILITY AND SO
FORTH, BUT WE'VE HAD BIG DISAGREEMENTS ON ISSUES.
BIG DISAGREEMENTS.
WHEN I SEE THE RATIONALE FOR THIS, I SEE THINGS THAT COULD
TURN OUT TO SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL.
FOR ME, TAKING SOMEBODY OUT WITH CAUSE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
THAT'S TOO SUBJECTIVE.
WAY TOO SUBJECTIVE.
SOMETHING BETTER DEFINED WITH MORE SCRUTINY, MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
IF WE REMOVE SOMEBODY, THERE'S GOT TO BE A VERY DETAILED
PROCESS.
A VERY DETAILED PROCESS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE SOME SORT OF
HEARING ON THAT.
2:28:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN'T HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND GET
FIVE VOTES WITHOUT BASICALLY HEARING.
IN THEIR LANGUAGE THEY INSERTED THAT THEY HAVE DUE PROCESS
RIGHTS.
BEEN ABLE TO COME AND BE HEARD.
I THINK THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS OF WHAT LANGUAGE, MR.
TINKLER, HE WAS ABLE TO INSERT INTO THIS, MAYBE THERE'S
LANGUAGE THERE THAT GETS YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
2:28:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CALL ME A SKEPTIC.
2:28:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S DO A VOTE.
I'M THINKING THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VOTES TO ACCEPT IT AS
IS WITHOUT LANGUAGE.
IF THE ATTORNEY WAS ABLE TO INSERT CAUSE TYPE OF LANGUAGE
INTO THIS AND WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER BITE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE WHAT COMES BACK.
BUT IF THE PERFECT LANGUAGE EXISTED THAT THERE WAS SOME
CAUSE INSERTED IN HERE, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THIS CHANGE TO
6.03?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
2:29:16PM >> NAY.
2:29:17PM >> NAY.
2:29:18PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:29:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT HAS TO COME BACK.
2:29:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE SEE WHAT COMES BACK?
2:29:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TEN SECONDS, IF I MAY.
I'M A VERY, VERY BIG SKEPTIC.
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
I'M OPEN TO SEEING WHAT COMES BACK.
2:29:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU VOTE NO, IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
2:29:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE FOUR YES?
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
AGAIN, I'M OPEN, BUT AT THIS POINT --
2:29:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S DO THAT AGAIN.
JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS, IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF COMING BACK
WITH LANGUAGE FOR US TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
RAISE YOUR HAND.
IT'S 4-3 WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, AND VIERA
VOTING NO.
2:30:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REALLY HAVEN'T SPOKEN MUCH DURING THIS ONE.
I REALLY THINK SOMETHING ABOUT CAUSE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY
SPECIFICITY IN OTHER CHARTERS THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE.
HAVING LISTENED TO THIS CONVERSATION, IF THERE'S SOME OTHER
SPECIFICITY THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.
2:30:27PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WE'LL ABSOLUTELY LOOK INTO THAT.
2:30:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?
2:30:31PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I BELIEVE I HAVE DIRECTION FROM FOUR OF YOU
TO PURSUE OTHER LANGUAGE RELATED TO CAUSE.
2:30:36PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AGAIN, BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK.
AS I'M LISTENING TO YOU ALL, I REALLY CAN SEE BOTH SIDES FOR
THE YEA AND NAY.
MY VOTE WAS TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK TO US AND THEN GO FROM
THERE.
2:30:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE MOVED PAST 6.03.
NEXT.
A.
2:31:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THIS MAYOR ANYWAY.
2:31:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW.
LET'S MOVE ON.
SORRY.
2:31:08PM >>KEN TINKLER:
SECTION 7.07, THERE WAS A DESIRE BY COUNCIL
TO REMOVE PROVISION REGARDING UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE
MAYOR REGARDING BUDGET CHANGES.
WE DID ADD LANGUAGE ALONG THE LINES OF IN THE MANNER
CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL LAW SIMPLY BECAUSE CHAPTER 166 HAS A
CERTAIN PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN AMENDING THE
BUDGET AND DIDN'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT WE WERE CONFLICTING
WITH THAT PROVISION.
2:31:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY WITH QUESTIONS?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING LANGUAGE CHANGE FOR 7.07 SAY
AYE.
OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS.
2:31:50PM >>KEN TINKLER:
NEXT SECTION WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE
CHARTER.
NEW ARTICLE 12, SECTION 12.01 REGARDING THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR IS GENERAL.
YOU HAVE THE FULL OUTLINE IN YOUR MEMO.
I'VE BROKEN IT OUT IN SECTIONS TO FIT WITHIN THE SLIDES.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERYTHING HERE, BUT TO GIVE YOU THE
GENERAL SENSE OF WHAT IS HERE, OBVIOUSLY, ESTABLISHING AN
INDIVIDUAL AS THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AS WELL AS AN OFFICE
REGARDING THE VARIOUS MEASURES THAT YOU WANTED THIS OFFICE
TO LOOK INTO.
A NONINTERFERENCE PROVISION CALLS OUT, OBVIOUSLY, USING SOME
OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.
WE ADDED IN LANGUAGE THAT THE OFFICE MAY UTILIZE THE
SERVICES OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT BUT NOT BE
SUBJECT TO ITS AUTHORITY BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION
ABOUT BEING OVERRIDDEN BY EXECUTIVE.
WE ALSO INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR
REGARDING THE VARIOUS OFFICERS NOT BEING ABLE TO DIRECT THIS
INDIVIDUAL OR IMPEDE THEM.
COUNCIL INDICATED THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE AN IMPLEMENTING
ORDINANCE FOR SOME OF THE DETAILS HERE.
WE DID INCLUDE SOME BASIC PROVISIONS USING THE MIAMI BEACH
MODEL THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US, ALONG WITH OTHERS, THAT
SOME MINIMUM STANDARDS TO SAY WHAT THIS ORDINANCE HAS TO
INCLUDE, WHICH INCLUDES HAVING THIS INSPECTOR GENERAL
SELECTION COMMITTEE, THE MEMBERSHIP, PROCEDURES, PROCESS FOR
APPOINTMENT AND REAPPOINTMENTS, THAT THIS BE AN OPEN
MERIT-BASED PROCESS.
ALSO THE ORDINANCE WOULD SET THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL FOR THE
OFFICE, PROVIDE FOR INITIAL FUNDING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE
WOULD NOT BE A BUDGET AT THE TIME THIS WAS ESTABLISHED AND
PROVIDE THE EMPLOYEES OF THE OFFICE BE ENTITLED TO THE SAME
BENEFITS AS SIMILARLY SITUATED EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT ALSO APPEARS IN YOUR CITY CLERK
PROVISION.
SO WE WERE MIRRORING THAT.
TO BE CLEAR, SINCE THIS SECTION SITS OUTSIDE OF BOTH THE
LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, WE INCLUDED A
PROVISION THAT THIS OFFICE DOESN'T EXERCISE POWERS OF THE
OTHER BRANCHES.
IT HAS ACCESS TO THE INDIVIDUALS BUT DOES NOT USURP THEIR
POWERS.
IT DOES THOUGH GRANT THEM SPECIFIC POWERS IN THE NEXT
SECTION AS FAR AS INITIATING AN INVESTIGATION, AUDIT OR
REVIEW OR ACTING ON ITS OWN INITIATIVE.
WE GAVE THE OFFICE THE DISCRETION TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT
THEY WISH TO PROCEED IF SOMETHING IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST
OR NOT.
AND ALSO THAT THEY HAD THE POWER TO FILE ETHICS COMPLAINTS,
REFER MATTERS OUTSIDE, INDEPENDENT, OBVIOUSLY, OF THE REST
OF THE CITY.
FOR SUBPOENA AUTHORITY, GIVEN THE DESIRE TO INCLUDE THAT, WE
LOOKED AGAIN TO THE MIAMI BEACH MODEL, AND THEY HAD SOME
INTERESTING LANGUAGE THERE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS USEFUL ABOUT
MAKING SURE THAT THEY COULD SEEK JUDICIAL ENFORCEMENT OF
SUBPOENAS.
BUT WE ALSO HAD SOME CAVEATS THAT THEY HAD TO INQUIRE
WHETHER THERE WAS A COMPANION CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION GOING
ON AS TO NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT.
IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING PROVISION.
SUB-2 THAT TALKS TO THE FACT THEY CAN'T USE SUBPOENAS TO
BATTLE SOMEBODY ELSE WITH SUBPOENA AUTHORITY OVER THEM.
AGAIN, TRYING TO PREVENT A VICIOUS CIRCLE.
NEXT SECTION REGARDING COOPERATION, REQUIRES COOPERATION,
OBVIOUSLY, CITY OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS, AS TO
APPOINTMENT, YOU INDICATED YOU WANTED FIVE MEMBERS OF CITY
COUNCIL UPON NOMINATION OF THIS SELECTION COMMITTEE.
WANTED A FIVE-YEAR TERM.
WE ALSO INCLUDED FIVE VOTES TO REMOVE AND ALSO A BASIS FOR
TERMINATION AND THE ABILITY TO RESPOND.
2:35:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THIS A GOOD TIME TO PAUSE?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:35:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU GO BACK REAL QUICK?
IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS J PORTION WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED EARLIER?
2:36:06PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THAT JUST POPPED INTO MY MIND.
WE'LL BUILD THAT THOUGHT IN.
2:36:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LIKE REDUNDANCY.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PAUSING FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:36:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO MENTION, YESTERDAY, UNSOLICITED, I
HAD A FORMER RETIRED AUDITOR WHO IS VERY WELL-RESPECTED, NOT
GOING TO SAY THE NAME, SOMEONE VERY WELL-RESPECTED WORKED
WITH LOTS OF BIG GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND WENT THROUGH A
BUNCH OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS.
HE SAID ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS HE SAID, IF YOU CREATE A
POSITION LIKE THIS YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE INTERNAL
AUDITOR BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO OTHERWISE IS SET UP A FIGHT BETWEEN
THE INTERNAL AUDITOR AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.
IN REALITY, THE AUDITOR, THE WAY IT IS SET UP NOW, THE
AUDITOR REPORTS TO THE MAYOR.
REALLY WHAT THEY DO IS PROCESS ANALYSIS.
THEY DON'T DO IN-DEPTH AUDITS THE WAY THAT OTHER GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES DO.
AS I TALKED TO HIM, HE'S WORKED WITH A LOT OF BIG AND SMALL
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
WE HAVE AN AUDITOR AND CEOs OF ORGANIZATIONS LIKE TO SAY,
OH, WE HAVE AN AUDITOR THAT COMES IN, BUT LOOK AT ARTHUR
ANDERSEN AND A BUNCH OF OTHER COMPANIES.
THE AUDITOR WILL COME IN AND THEY DON'T LOOK AT EVERY
DOCUMENT.
THEY SPECIFICALLY SAY IN THEIR DOCUMENTS THEY DON'T LOOK FOR
FRAUD.
YOU HAVE AN INSPECTOR GENERAL AND AN AUDITOR, BUT IF THE
AUDITOR IS LOOKING AT PROCESS, INSPECTOR GENERAL IS LOOKING
MORE DEEPLY, THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
THE OTHER THING, SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE COMBINE
THEM IN WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL THEM SO THERE'S NOT TWO
DEPARTMENTS FIGHTING EACH OTHER.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN MOST ORGANIZATIONS,
ESPECIALLY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THE AUDITOR AND INSPECTOR
GENERAL REPORTS TO THE BOARD.
WE ARE A CORPORATION, WE'RE THE BOARD AND THE MAYOR IS THE
CEO.
THEY REPORT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE
BOARD HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO RUN THE DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES.
WE HAVE NO OVERSIGHT TO IT OTHER THAN THE REPORTS THAT WE'RE
ABLE TO GET FROM THEM.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE AUDITOR IS FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE
PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A LINE OF SIGHT INTO IT.
HE HAD A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE OTHER WAS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE STATE
INSPECTOR GENERAL AND MAYBE EVEN GET SOME ADVICE FROM THE
STATE INSPECTOR GENERAL AS TO HOW THIS SHOULD BE STRUCTURED
SO IT'S NOT SET UP TO PROVIDE CONFLICT.
2:38:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T SUPPORT COMBINING BECAUSE IT MIGHT
APPEAR TO BE -- SAME FUNCTION.
AUDIT DEPARTMENT IS MUCH MORE DIFFERENT.
IT HAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT FUNCTION, AT LEAST HOW I PERCEIVE
WHAT THE IG WOULD BE.
I THINK THEY PERFORM SOME VERY DISTINCTIVE FUNCTIONS AND NOT
THE FUNCTION OF WHAT AN OUTSIDE INSPECTOR GENERAL WOULD BE
LOOKING AT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:39:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE AFTER THIS
SLIDE?
2:39:15PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WE HAVE THIS SLIDE AND ONE OTHER.
2:39:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO, JUST ON THIS SECTION.
ONE MORE SLIDE ON THIS?
2:39:22PM >>KEN TINKLER:
CORRECT.
2:39:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REAL QUICK, HOW MUCH DOES THIS DIFFER
FROM I BELIEVE IT WAS BOARD MEMBER CREIGHTON WHO CHAMPIONED
THIS WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW.
I SPOKE TO MY APPOINTEE, MR. STEPHEN BENSON, I THINK HE
MENTIONED CREIGHTON, AND CREIGHTON DID SEND HIS
RECOMMENDATION TO ALL OF US.
HOW DIFFERENT IS THIS FROM WHAT HE PROPOSED, MEANING WHAT
THE BOARD DISCUSSED, AND DID THE BOARD VOTE TO SUPPORT
MOVING FORWARD WITH INSPECTOR GENERAL?
2:39:54PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THE BOARD DID VOTE AND INCLUDED RECOMMENDED
INSPECTOR GENERAL PROVISION IN THEIR FINAL REPORT.
THERE WERE MANY VERSIONS PROPOSED DURING THAT PROCESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MATCHES UP EXACTLY TO BOBBY'S OR
NOT, BUT IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT.
THAT PROVISION RESTRICTED THE INSPECTOR GENERAL ACTING ON A
COMPLAINT BASIS AS FAR AS THEY HAD TO RECEIVE A COMPLAINT IN
WRITING IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH AN INVESTIGATION.
CAKES WAS YOU WANTED THEM TO ACT ON THEIR OWN INITIATIVE.
2:40:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. CREIGHTON OR THE BOARD'S PROPOSAL,
IT HAD TO BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN, NOT THAT THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL COULD INITIATE THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION.
2:40:36PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN ANY PARTICULAR
MEMBER'S MOUTH BECAUSE THEY HAD A VERY INTENSE DISCUSSION
ABOUT THIS.
THE ADOPTED VERSION THAT CAME FROM THE COMMISSION HAD MUCH
MORE -- MANY MORE LIMITATIONS AS TO THIS ROLE, INCLUDING
THAT PROVISION, THE ADOPTION PROVISION, NO SUBPOENA POWER
EXCEPT FOR DOCUMENTS, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
2:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS HERE SAYS SUBPOENA POWER, WHICH
WHAT AUTHORITY DOES AN INSPECTOR GENERAL HAVE TO RECEIVE --
TO ISSUE A SUBPOENA, RECEIVE A RESPONSE?
IT SAYS HERE, IF NOT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PETITION THE COURT
OR GO TO COURT TO GET A JUDGMENT, WOULDN'T THAT BE THE CASE
ANYWAY?
DOES APPROVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IF THE VOTERS APPROVED
THIS, WOULD IT GIVE SUBPOENA POWER?
BY LAW, COULD BE CREATED OR ALWAYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
COURT AND HAVE A JUDGE SIGN OFF?
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
2:41:29PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WHAT YOU'RE CREATING HERE IS THE ABILITY FOR
AN INSPECTOR GENERAL TO ISSUE SUBPOENA.
2:41:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ENFORCEABLE SUBPOENA OR SOMEBODY COULD
SAY YOU'RE NOT A JUDGE.
2:41:39PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF I MAY, ISSUE A SUBPOENA, TO ENFORCE THAT
SUBPOENA THEN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE USING THE LEGAL SYSTEM AND
INVOLVING A JUDGE.
THE GRANT -- RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO AUTHORITY GRANTED TO
THIS INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT THIS LANGUAGE TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS, AS
AN EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE.
2:41:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR THE CREATION OF THE BOARD OR THE
APPOINTEES THAT WOULD THEN SELECT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL,
WOULD THAT COME TO APPLICANTS WOULD COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND
WE WOULD CREATE THAT BOARD OR HOW WOULD IT BE CREATED?
2:42:10PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I'LL GIVE YOU THE COMPARISON.
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION SET FORTH THE SPECIFIC BOARD BY
TITLE.
YOUR INDICATION TO ME IS YOU WANTED TO DEFER ON THAT AND SET
IT BY ORDINANCE AS TO WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AND
THEIR PROCESS.
2:42:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEN THE BOARD WOULD SELECT THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
2:42:26PM >>KEN TINKLER:
CORRECT.
UNDER YOUR PROVISION HERE.
UNDER THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, IT WAS A COMBINED BOARD
AND MAYOR APPOINTMENT PROCESS.
UNDER YOUR PROVISION, IT IS SOLELY THE COUNCIL.
2:42:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LAST QUESTION.
I BELIEVE I SAW IT, IN ORDER TO REMOVE INSPECTOR GENERAL,
DONE BY MOTION OF CITY COUNCIL, SUPERMAJORITY FIVE VOTES OR
FOUR VOTES?
WHAT PROTECTION DO WE HAVE FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE COUNCIL?
2:42:57PM >>KEN TINKLER:
YOU HAD IT ON FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
YOU HAD TO PROVIDE THE INDIVIDUAL WITH A RESOLUTION THAT
OUTLINED THE BASIS FOR TERMINATION AND GIVE THEM THE ABILITY
TO RESPOND BOTH IN WRITING AND A PUBLIC MEETING.
THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE REPORT WAS NOT A BASIS.
2:43:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
2:43:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:43:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I WAS ACTING
AS CHAIR AT THE TIME.
BUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS
PEOPLE WERE STARTING TO GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
THEY DECIDED TO PUT SOMETHING ON SO IT COULD GET TO US AND
THEY DID EXPECT IT TO CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT
WE DID.
2:43:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA FIRST.
2:43:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
MR. TINKLER, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR
PROFESSIONALISM.
YOU'VE PUT IN A LOT OF HARD WORK.
THANK YOU.
WE ALL APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS.
I APOLOGIZE.
THE APPOINTMENT -- SO COUNCIL BY A VOTE OF FIVE WILL
CONFIRM, WHAT HAVE YOU, THE SELECTION OF THIS INDIVIDUAL BY
THE COMMITTEE.
DO WE KNOW WHO IS ON THE COMMITTEE AT COUNCIL?
2:44:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ORDINANCE.
2:44:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
GOOD.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT THE REMOVAL HAS SPECIFIC CRITERIA
BECAUSE WE WANT TO GUARD AGAINST ANY ABUSE OF COUNCIL POWER
WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHOEVER HE OR SHE MAY BE.
THAT'S IT.
GOOD STUFF.
THANK YOU.
2:44:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:44:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE INTERNAL
DEPARTMENT THAT DOES THE INTERNAL AUDITS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
EXTERNAL AUDITORS WHO COME IN FROM WHOEVER WE DO BUSINESS
WITH, IN SOME AREA IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT GIVES FACTS OR
WHATEVER MONIES WE GET, RECEIVE FROM WHATEVER DIVISION THEY
GIVE US TO FACILITATE OUR NEEDS.
AND THOSE THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FROM THE
EXTERNAL AUDITOR OR THE INTERNAL AUDITOR THAT DIDN'T HAVE
SOMETHING THAT MINOR LITTLE THINGS SO MANY DAYS TO CORRECT
WHATEVER IT WAS, AND THEN YOU FOLLOW UP ON IT AND TELL YOU
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
IT'S CLEARED OUT.
MAY BE DELAYED BY WHATEVER SITUATION IT WAS, THE PAPER WORK
WASN'T DONE AT THE CORRECT TIME IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE
OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
BUT NEVER ANYTHING I KNEW THAT WAS CRIMINAL INTENT OR ANY
LAX LIKE THAT IN MY YEARS OF SERVICE.
CAN I ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE INTERNAL
DIVISION THIS ONE AND THE ONE PRIOR TO THIS ONE AND EXTERNAL
AUDITORS.
NEVER SEEN ONE WHERE IT WAS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION, SOME
CORRUPTION IN ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
2:45:45PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THERE ARE FIVE MORE PROVISIONS TO GO THROUGH.
2:45:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO THINGS.
THE INTERNAL AUDITOR FROM THE ONES I'VE SEEN ARE MOSTLY
PROCESS ANALYSIS.
AUDITS, THEY TAKE SAMPLES OF DATA.
THEY DON'T LOOK AT EVERY PIECE OF DATA.
THEY TAKE SAMPLES OF DATA.
THEY ALSO EXPLICITLY SAY THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR FRAUD.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION TO LOOK AT FRAUD,
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO CAPABILITY TO DO THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT MY SON IS GOING AWAY FOR SEVERAL
MONTHS AT ABOUT 3:30.
IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES, HOPEFULLY I'LL LEAVE SO I CAN SAY
GOOD-BYE TO HIM.
2:46:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. TINKLER.
CONTINUE.
LET HIM FINISH THE REST.
2:46:30PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF WE CAN GET THE PowerPoint BACK ON.
PROVISION REGARDING VACANCY.
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WE TOOK THE PROVISION REGARDING
VACANCY THAT CAME FROM THE COMMISSION.
IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR AN INTERIM PERSON IN THIS ROLE.
THE COMMISSION'S FEELING ON THAT WAS THAT INTERIM WAS NOT
APPROPRIATE.
JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT, THOUGH, IT'S UNUSUAL.
WE DID INCLUDE LANGUAGE SINCE THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE
CHARTER REGARDING INTERNAL AUDIT THAT THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO
OTHERWISE INTERFERE WITH THAT PROVISION.
WE SAW THIS AS DISTINCT IN THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS AN
AUDIT ABILITY BUT IT IS NOT THE AUDITOR.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE CLARIFICATION THERE.
THE FUNDING PROVISION, INDICATION OF A DESIRE TO HAVE
INDEPENDENCE ON THE FUNDING.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE RESTRICTED A TOSS HOW STATE LAW REQUIRES
YOU HANDLE A BUDGET.
WE INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT THE OFFICE WOULD SUBMIT A BUDGET
TO THE MAYOR FOR INCLUSION WITHIN THE ANNUAL BUDGET,
NOTWITHSTANDING ANY CONTRARY AUTHORITY THAT THE MAYOR HAS,
IT WOULD BE PRESENTED AS FULLY RECOMMENDED BY THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL TO YOU IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T AMEND IT OR HIS AMENDMENTS AREN'T
DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S JUST AMENDMENTS -- BEFORE IT GETS TO YOU AND THE
RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
THAT IS A CHANGE TO YOUR BUDGET PROCESS.
NEXT PROVISION REGARDING LEGAL COUNSEL.
GIVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS THE CITY AS A WHOLE, WE
INCLUDED THEM, UTILIZE THE SERVICES OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
OFFICE OR MAY RETAIN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL SUBJECT TO
LIMITATION OF FUNDING IN THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET.
THE REST IS REGARDING IMPLEMENTATION.
SIMPLY PUTS YOU ON A CLOCK AS TO HOW, IF THIS SHOULD PASS,
THE TIMELINE TO GET THE ORDINANCE PASSED IN ORDER TO GET THE
COMMITTEE SPUN UP AND BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH ACTIVATING THE
OFFICE.
THAT'S THE FULL PROVISION.
QUESTIONS ON THAT?
2:48:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU FIXED A COUPLE OF THE HOLES
THAT WE HAD.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT WORK AS WELL.
I THINK YOU HAVE DONE STELLAR WORK ON THIS.
ANY OTHER INPUT ON THIS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:48:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
FOR CONFIRMATION, IT'S ONLY CITY COUNCIL.
DOES THE MAYOR HAVE ANY SAY IN THIS WHATSOEVER, WHOEVER HE
OR SHE MAY BE IN THE FUTURE?
2:48:58PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:49:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TECHNICALLY, YES, BECAUSE WE'RE WRITING AN
ORDINANCE AND SHE HAS TO SIGN THE ORDINANCE.
2:49:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MEAN IN THE FUTURE --
2:49:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SUBJECT TO INSPECTOR GENERAL, TOO.
2:49:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BY THE WAY, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I SEE MR.
GRECO HERE, MR. COEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER -- JUST IF ANY OF THEM --
2:49:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE STILL MOVING ON THIS.
2:49:27PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I HAVE ONE MORE SECTION AFTER THIS PIECE.
2:49:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THE IG?
2:49:31PM >>KEN TINKLER:
ONE MORE IN CLARIFICATION OF DIRECTION.
THE LAST OF THE CHARTER LANGUAGE.
COUPLE MORE SLIDES.
2:49:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S IT FOR THE IG, THOUGH?
2:49:40PM >>KEN TINKLER:
YES.
2:49:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE IG
LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS.
CONTINUE.
2:49:52PM >>KEN TINKLER:
JUST A FEW ITEMS WE NEED DIRECTION ON AS
WE'RE PROCEEDING.
THE FIRST, CITY HAS USED TWO DIFFERENT PATHS IN THE PAST AS
FAR AS HOW TO HANDLE THESE KIND OF CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
YOU HAVE DONE COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCES, OBVIOUSLY, THE LAST
TIME YOU DID THAT, SOME ITEMS DID NOT MAKE THE BALLOT.
THE ALTERNATIVE IS AN INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCE BASED UPON TOPIC.
I DEFINITELY LEAN THAT WAY, BUT IT'S NOT MY CALL.
IT'S THE CLIENT --
2:50:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCES, AYE.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
2:50:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST SO I CAN LET YOU KNOW AND COUNCIL
MEMBER HURTAK CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHEN SHE AND
I WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TOGETHER IN 2016,
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL VOTED OVER WHICH THERE ARE THREE
MEMBERS HERE NOW, BUT AS I RECALL THERE WERE LIKE 16 CHANGES
WE MADE AND THOSE WERE CONDENSED DOWN TO LIKE FOUR
AMENDMENTS.
2:50:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
18.
18 AMENDMENTS.
WE HAD TO VOTE ON 18 AMENDMENTS.
2:50:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANYWAYS, SOMETHING HAPPENED WHERE THEY GOT
DROPPED OFF.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER IT'S DEFINED THAT IT IS
ACCURATE.
I READ ONE A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT I THOUGHT WAS COMPLETELY
INACCURATE.
2:51:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WILL BE MR. SHELBY'S RESPONSIBILITY
NOW.
IT WILL BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
WE NEED TO ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
WE ALSO HAVE A TIMETABLE, AND ALL THIS WAS -- THIS ENTIRE
PROCESS WHEN WE STARTED THIS, MS. KOPESKY, MR. SHELBY AND
MYSELF, PUTTING THE STRUCTURE TOGETHER AND GETTING THE TEAM
TOGETHER, OUR FACILITATOR, OUR LAWYER, WE STARTED ON THE
DATE WHEN OUR SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS COULD TAKE THE
INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE, TRANSLATE IT INTO
SPANISH AND HAVE A BALLOT READY.
WE TOOK THE DATE AND STARTED BACKING UP.
THAT'S HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WHEN WE GET THIS BACK, WE HAVE TO MEET THE DEADLINES FOR
CRAIG LATIMER TO GET THIS ON THE BALLOT.
WE HAVE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE READ THIS
TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
OKAY.
CONTINUE.
2:51:56PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF WE CAN BRING THE SLIDES BACK UP.
THE OTHER PIECE, YOU GAVE ME SOME DIRECTION HERE ON
AMENDMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT ANTICIPATING
ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON THIS, THAT YOUR NEXT -- MY NEXT
EXPERIENCE WOULD BE REGARDING BRINGING YOU THE ORDINANCE AT
PUBLIC HEARING.
2:52:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY ASSUMPTION, WHEN WE FINISH THIS I'M
GOING TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON HAVING YOU GO BACK AND FINISH UP
THIS DRAFT LANGUAGE AND ORDINANCE FORMAT.
ONCE THAT COMES BACK, YOU'LL BRING IT BACK TO US AS A
PACKAGE ON NOVEMBER 5.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEN WE'LL BE ON THE FAST TRACK TO MOVE
FORWARD.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON THIS.
I THINK WE'RE DONE.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT OPPOSES THAT?
MR. SHELBY.
2:52:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LET ME CHIME IN WITH THE WHAT-IFS.
BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT
COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BETWEEN NOW AND THE 15th OF OCTOBER
SO YOU COULD AT LEAST HAVE A STATUS REPORT.
2:52:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.
2:52:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, BECAUSE IF YOU GET INTO A DEBATE WHEN
THIS IS IN ORDINANCE FORM PRESENTED TO YOU FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBLE
LOGISTICAL TASK TO BE ABLE TO AMEND THAT ON THE FLY.
2:53:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE AN UPDATE AT THE NEXT
CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS OCTOBER 15, DURING STAFF
REPORTS.
2:53:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
2:53:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN DO A TIME CERTAIN IF NECESSARY.
1:30 AGAIN?
THAT WAY YOU KNOW AND WE KNOW.
2:53:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU STATE WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS OF
THAT UPDATE WOULD BE?
2:53:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO TAKE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND
INSTEAD OF DOING THE ENTIRE THING LIKE YOU DID THIS TIME,
ACTUALLY, DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID THIS TIME.
ANYTHING THAT WERE CHANGES YOU BRING BACK TO US IN THIS VERY
SAME FORMAT, WHICH IS VERY EASY TO READ.
I ALSO APPRECIATED HAVING THE PRESENTATION BEFOREHAND SO I
GOT TO LOOK OVER IT, EVEN THOUGH JUST THE DAY BEFORE,
PERFECTLY FINE.
THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.
2:54:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
2:54:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
SO I WAS TASKED WITH THE ORDINANCE REGARDING SECTION 7.2,
WHICH WAS THE PROGRESS OF THE CITY PROJECTS.
NUMBER 22 FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT CHAIR CLENDENIN HAD.
I DID TALK TO ATTORNEY STEADY.
AND WE SHOULD HAVE IT IF NOT BY OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING,
BEFORE BY THE 15th.
SO WE'LL HAVE THAT IN ADDITION TO THESE THINGS.
2:54:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PERFECT.
2:54:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT CHARTER OR ORDINANCE?
2:54:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THIS WOULD BE ORDINANCE.
2:54:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A BUNCH OF ORDINANCES ON THE HOT
SHEET READY TO COME.
2:54:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION,
MADAM CLERK?
2:54:57PM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
2:54:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
IT IS YOUR INTENTION TO RETURN.
2:55:01PM >>KEN TINKLER:
CORRECT.
2:55:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S 1:30 TIME CERTAIN ON THE --
2:55:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OCTOBER 15.
2:55:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO SHARE, COUNCIL AND PUT THIS IN
CONTEXT, YOU ONLY HAVE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS IN THE MONTH OF
OCTOBER.
THAT IS THE 1st AND THE 15th.
THEN ACTUALLY AFTER THAT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING WOULD BE
WHEN THIS IS SCHEDULED FOR FIRST READING.
2:55:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL ONLY NEED THAT ONE 1:30 TIME SET.
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU, MR. TINKLER.
VERY GOOD WORK.
HONESTLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD WORK.
EXCEEDED MY ALREADY HIGH EXPECTATION.
YOUR REPUTATION WAS WELL DESERVED.
2:55:42PM >>KEN TINKLER:
APPRECIATE IT, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTION.
SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
2:55:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE HERE?
I SEE TWO?
SOMEBODY HIDING BEHIND MR. TINKLER, BECAUSE HE IS A BIG
DUDE?
WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO SPEAK? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU
WOULD LIKE TO SAY?
AT LEAST RECOGNIZE YOU.
I SEE MR. ALAN COHN AND GARRETT GRECO.
HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT YOUR GRANDFATHER TODAY.
2:56:14PM >> A FEW TIMES, YEAH.
ON THE CHARTER REVIEW --
2:56:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
2:56:19PM >> GARRETT GRECO, DISTRICT ONE APPOINTEE FOR THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION.
I WOULD SAY THAT COUNCIL IS HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK STATED, I THINK THE PROPONENTS OF THE
IG FELT THIS WAS A SORT OF COMPROMISE TO GET IT TO CITY
COUNCIL.
IT SEEMS THAT COUNCIL IS GOING A LITTLE BIT IN A STRONGER
DIRECTION.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.
I WOULD SAY WE TRIED TO KEEP IT INDEPENDENT OF POLITICAL
INFLUENCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE SENT TO YOU GUYS HAD THE MAYOR AND A
MEMBER OF COUNCIL, I THINK THE CHAIR, PICKING A SEAT ON THE
SELECTION COMMITTEE.
THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE REMOVED WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU
GUYS AGAIN.
IT WAS?
OKAY.
GOOD.
LASTLY WAS THE SPECIAL ZONING HEARING MASTER.
I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAD NO APPETITE FOR THAT.
I TRIED TO EXPRESS THAT TO THE COMMISSION.
I WAS THE ONLY NO VOTE ON IT.
I WILL SAY THE COMMISSION, I THINK THE PUBLIC AND ALL OF YOU
RECOGNIZE THE CONTENTION BEHIND LAND USE DECISIONS AT
COUNCIL.
THE BEST WAY TO FIX THAT IS FIXING OUR ANTIQUATED AND
SUBURBANIZED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WE HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING BACK TOMORROW AT 10 A.M.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ADVISORY TEAM MEETING AT TAMPA
CITY CENTER AT HANNA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE, 10 A.M.
I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO SHOW UP OR SEND SOMEONE THERE TO
CHECK IT OUT.
THANK YOU.
2:57:46PM >> ALAN COHN.
I AM COUNCILMAN VIERA'S APPOINTEE TO THE CHARTER REVIEW AND
ALSO VICE-CHAIR OF IT.
AS GARRETT WAS SAYING, RESPONDING TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE
DID WANT TO LEAVE ROOM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE
CHANGES THAT IT FELT IMPORTANT TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL TO
MAKE IT YOUR OWN.
WE DID HAVE SUGGESTIONS OF HAVING, GIVING THE CITY COUNCIL
AND THE MAYOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PARTICIPANT ON THE
PANEL THAT WOULD SELECT THAT PERSON.
FOR THE REASON THAT WE WANTED BOTH SIDES TO HAVE BUY-IN ON
THE SELECTION.
BUT GIVEN THE DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS GOING TO
BE A STRONG SYSTEM IN TERMS OF PICKING THE RIGHT PERSON FOR
THIS POSITION.
ALSO, ONE OTHER POINT, WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
WERE NOT TAKING RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S
IN THE AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT OR HR, WHICH WE RECOGNIZE HAS
OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAD
ITS OWN STAFF AND ABILITY TO PURSUE THE ISSUES THAT NEED TO
BE PURSUED.
AND ONE OTHER THING, I'M ALSO REALLY GLAD THAT --
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG HAS BEEN -- AND HER APPOINTEE TO THE
CHARTER REVIEW, PUSHED FOR A SYSTEM OF TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS
OF FINDING OUT WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT STATUS IS OF DIFFERENT
PROJECTS.
I AM GLAD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THIS BY
ORDINANCE.
WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS HAPPEN IN THE CITY.
IT MAY NOT BE IN THE PLACE OF THE CHARTER TO DO IT, BUT I'M
REALLY HAPPY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:59:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS ISSUE, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS CITY
COUNCIL COMPENSATION.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU PLEASE -- THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH IT.
BECAUSE WE HAD IT IN THE CHARTER, SAID ORDINANCE, AND FOUND
OUT MAYBE WE CAN'T.
2:59:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF WE GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE -- CAN I ASK
MR. TINKLER TO BRING UP 6.06?
THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT -- I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT
COUNCIL'S INTENTION IS AND WHAT THE CHARTER WILL PROVIDE,
PRESENTLY PROVIDES, AND WHAT IS PROPOSED.
THERE IS A CHANGE TO 6.06.
COUNCIL DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION.
3:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST A REFRESHER, SO WE HAD SOME PROPOSED
LANK THAT WOULD AMEND THE CHARTER, PUTTING IN A FORMULA THAT
WOULD CREATE BASICALLY A SALARY SLED BETWEEN COUNCIL SALARY
AND THE MAYOR'S SALARY.
BECAUSE OF EXISTING CHARTER LANGUAGE, I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND CITY COUNCIL STAFF THAT THAT LANGUAGE
COULD NOT BE DONE BY ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND
THE CHARTER.
THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP NOW.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:00:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONLY PART THAT
WE CAN'T CONTINUE WITH IS BASICALLY SETTING A -- SETTING
PARAMETERS AROUND HOW IT MOVES FORWARD.
3:01:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BASICALLY SAYS IT HAS TO BE DONE BY
RESOLUTION?
3:01:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN DO A RESOLUTION.
3:01:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND MR. VASKE, WHO HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH CITY COUNCIL IN PREPARING THE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE IN
EFFECT TODAY, HE MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT.
BUT IF YOU COULD GO TO 6.06 BECAUSE -- THERE IS A CHANGE TO
CORRECT IT TO PUT IN WHAT WAS MISSING THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED
TO THE VOTERS THAT DOES ALLOW IT TO BE CHANGED BY ORDINANCE,
IS THAT CORRECT?
3:01:50PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF WE CAN BRING UP THE SLIDES, HAPPY TO GO
THROUGH IT.
3:02:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS WE SPEAK HERE TODAY, THE ORDINANCE IS
MISSING THE LANGUAGE OR ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDED
AND APPROVED IN WRITING BY THE MAYOR.
AS OF NOW, WITH THE CORRECTED MUNICODE ORDINANCE AS -- IN
EFFECT, IT DOES NOT ALLOW IT EXCEPT BY RESOLUTION.
AND MR. VASKE, THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY.
I SEE HIM NODDING.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IF YOU ULTIMATELY WANTED TO CREATE A
FORMULA BY ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD BE DONE BY CITY COUNCIL, BY
PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED BY THE MAYOR CONSISTENT WITH
THIS SECTION.
AND THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO.
AND THAT WOULD ONLY BE CHANGED THEN -- IT WOULDN'T BE SET IN
STONE IN THE CHARTER, BUT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO BE
CHANGED AND AMENDED DEPENDING UPON CIRCUMSTANCES, DEPENDING
UPON THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT LOOKS TO ME THAT WHEN YOU REVIEWED THIS AND I SAW THAT
YOU PASSED BY IT, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT CHANGE WOULD THEN
ALLOW YOU TO THEN AFTER THIS IS ACCEPTED, ASSUMING IT IS
ACCEPTED BY THE VOTER, TO THEN CREATE BY ORDINANCE THE
FORMULA THAT YOU WOULD WANT IN EFFECT.
3:03:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME INTERPRET YOUR LEGAL-SPEAK.
I'LL SPEAK IN CLEAR ENGLISH.
WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THE EXISTING CHARTER ONLY ALLOWS
THIS COUNCIL TO SET SALARY BY RESOLUTION.
IF WE WANTED TO ACCEPT -- LET'S SAY TODAY THERE ARE TWO
OPTIONS.
BASED ON WHAT MR. SHELBY AND MR. VASKE HAVE SAID.
BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
WE CAN CHANGE THE CHARTER TO INCLUDE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE
FOR SETTING THE SALARIES BASED ON A FORMULA, OR THIS MOVES
FORWARD AND IF THIS PASSES, WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO
PASS AN ORDINANCE AFTER THIS PASSED.
SO THOSE ARE OUR TWO OPTIONS.
IF YOU WANT TO RESOLVE IT NOW AND PUT IT ON THE CHARTER,
THAT'S AN OPTION.
IF YOU WANT TO JUST GO WITH THIS LANGUAGE AND WAIT TO SEE
WHAT THE VOTERS DO WITH THIS AND THEN THE NEXT, BUT THEN THE
NEXT COUNCIL STILL WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THEIR OWN SALARY.
3:04:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW CAN I SAY THIS?
DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE FOR A WHILE.
AND I FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD NOT
BE VOTING FOR -- SO, FIRST, THOUGH, THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE
VOTING FOR A PAY RAISE AND 27th AMENDMENT TO THE U.S.
CONSTITUTION IN TAMPA, BUT THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT IS JUST AS
IMPORTANT TO ME, WHICH IS THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE A
HIGHER SALARY BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE TWO JOBS.
THIS IS A JOB THAT REQUIRES A LOT.
ATTORNEYS, I'M AN ATTORNEY.
I'M VERY LUCKY THAT I CAN MANAGE MY PRACTICE AND DO THIS.
IT'S HARD, BUT I DO IT.
BUT A LOT OF FOLKS CAN'T DO THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND RAISE IT FOR NEXT
TERM TO A CERTAIN LEVEL TO HAVE IT DONE?
I WOULD BE WILLING TO MOTION FOR IT, BY THE WAY.
3:05:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION.
3:05:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, EXACTLY.
NOTICE THE QUIET GESTURE OF MR. TINKLER.
COULD I POINT YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO THE SCREEN THAT SAYS
WHAT IS PRESENTLY IN THE CHARTER.
IT SAYS THAT THE SALARIES MAY BE INCREASED OR DECREASED AT
ANY TIME BY CONCURRENCE OF THE MAYOR AND A MAJORITY OF THE
ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION.
MR. VASKE, WITH THAT INTRODUCTION.
3:05:58PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE FORMULA THAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH WE COULD JUST DO THAT
BY RESOLUTION, AND WE CAN DO IT IN THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT
TERM OF OFFICE.
BUT WE WOULD BE KEEPING THE CURRENT RESOLUTION IN PLACE
UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE THE NEW RESOLUTION.
3:06:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE THIS COMING UP ON THE
NOVEMBER 5, BUT IT SAYS RETURN WITH PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
COULD I CHANGE THAT SINCE IT'S MY MOTION, COULD I CHANGE IT
TO LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH CHAIR CLENDENIN TO RETURN
WITH A RESOLUTION REGARDING CITY COUNCIL COMPENSATION?
3:06:42PM >> YES.
3:06:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS MY MOTION FOR THE NOVEMBER 5 MEETING
CHANGE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
3:06:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
3:06:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NAY.
3:06:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I LIKE THIS ORDINANCE LANGUAGE.
3:06:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLEASE READ THE VOTE.
3:07:03PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
3:07:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS,
WHICH IS THAT IF YOU ARE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, IT'S REALLY
HARD TO DO -- SO MANY PEOPLE ARE PRECLUDED FROM DOING THIS.
SO WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL SO THAT MORE PEOPLE
CAN RUN FOR OFFICE AND BE PART OF THE CIVIC PROCESS.
THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, YOU PRECLUDE -- FORGET ABOUT THE
EXPENSE OF RUNNING FOR OFFICE WHICH REALLY SUCKS, BUT YOU
ALSO PRECLUDE PEOPLE FROM EVER TAKING OFFICE.
THAT'S JUST UNJUST.
THAT'S WHY I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.
IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
3:07:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER BUSINESS ON THE CHARTER?
DO YOU HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS AND GOOD TO GO?
EVERYBODY HAPPY?
VERY GOOD.
SAM THOMAS, PLEASE BRING THE NEWER DOCUMENTS TO COUNCIL
CHAMBERS.
3:08:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO TAKE OFF TO SEE MY SON.
MOTION TO ACCEPT MY FORM 8B.
3:08:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO ACCEPT
HIS FORM.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
IN FRONT OF YOU WAS PROPOSED RULES FOR FILLING DISTRICT 7.
I MADE A COUPLE OF VERY SCRIVENER KIND OF MODIFICATIONS.
ONE WAS PUTTING THE DATE THAT THE APPLICATION WAS DUE ON THE
TOP AND ON THE BOTTOM.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE BRING YOUR CONVERSATION
TO THE LOBBY?
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE A COPY THAT DOESN'T SAY DRAFT,
PLEASE SHRED IT, TEAR IT UP, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO GET
MIXED UP WITH OTHER THINGS.
IT DOESN'T GET FLOATED AROUND AS A VALID --
3:09:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MS. SCHARF, CAN YOU PLEASE BRING MY PERSONAL
PHONE.
THANK YOU.
3:09:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE YOU IS PROPOSED GUIDELINES FOR
FILLING THE DISTRICT 7 VACANCY.
WE HAD AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE.
IN AN ATTEMPT TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF VACANCY PERIOD THAT
DISTRICT 7 HAS ON COUNCIL WITH ALL THE BIG ISSUES COMING
BEFORE COUNCIL, ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY SITTING IN ALL
SEVEN SEATS.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DOCUMENTS YOU
HAVE NOW WITH DRAFT AND THE ONE YOU HAD PREVIOUS, IT HAS AS
YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM, APPLICATIONS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO
AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY CLERK BY 12 P.M. MONDAY, NOVEMBER
9.
I ALSO HAVE THAT SAME LINE UNDERNEATH WHERE THEY HAVE TO
SIGN SO THAT THERE'S -- THERE IS A CLEAR INDICATION AND ON
THE TOP OF THE FORM AS WELL.
IT'S IN TWO PLACES.
TOP OF THE FORM, BOTTOM OF THE FORM.
WHAT IS ANTICIPATED, WHEN YOU TURN THE PAGE OVER, THAT THE
APPLICANTS WILL FILL OUT THE HARD COPY FORM AND THEY WILL
SUBMIT A BUSINESS RESUM .
ALL OF THOSE RULES ARE INCLUDED ON THE BACK OF PAGE 1.
SO PAGE 2, AND POLICY, PROCEDURES, WHAT IS EXPECTED FOR THEM
TO INCLUDE IN THEIR APPLICATION, WHICH IS A FILLED OUT
APPLICATION, WHICH HAS THE DECLARATION OF HOW LONG YOU'VE
BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AND HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN A
RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN.
ARE YOU A REGISTERED VOTER, SIT ON ANY OF THE BOARDS AND
BASIC CONTACT INFORMATION, DATE OF BIRTH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THE RESUM WILL HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS THAT WE CONSIDER AS
FAR AS THEIR BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE FOR INFORMATIONAL
PURPOSES.
IF YOU TURN TO THE FRONT PAGE, THE COVER PAGE, THE TOP HALF
IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE RELATED LAWS OF HOW WE FILL THOSE
POSITIONS.
THE TIMELINE AND THE SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT, THAT'S THE MEAT
OF THE MATTER, THE PROBLEM IS, WE'VE GOT HOLIDAYS.
WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS HAPPENING HERE.
I'LL CALL OUT THE COMPLEXITY RIGHT AWAY OFF THE TOP SO YOU
KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ONE PROBLEM.
AND THAT IS THE NOVEMBER 12.
NOVEMBER 12 IS A CRA DAY MEETING AND A NIGHT MEETING.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND IF
ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER IDEAS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 15, COUNCIL APPROVES THE SELECTION
PROCESS.
WELL, HERE WE ARE.
3:11:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
TODAY IS THE FIRST.
THIS IS A DRAFT.
I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, A REMINDER, YOU AND I
HAD A PRIVATE DISCUSSION, THE APPLICATION IS ALSO A DRAFT.
IF I CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BRIEFLY, WHEN THE TIME
HAS COME IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, THE APPLICATION AND, QUITE
FRANKLY, THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT THIS APPLICATION WILL
ACTUALLY NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL THE DATE OF THE VACANCY.
3:12:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL GET THERE.
3:12:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I KNOW THAT.
3:12:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THE 15th, WE'LL APPROVE THE PROCESS
AND TIMELINE.
ON THE THIRD, THE CITY CLERK WILL MAKE THE APPLICATION
AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT 9 A.M.
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3rd.
ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 9, APPLICATION DEADLINE IS 12 P.M. NOON.
APPLICANTS -- APPLICATIONS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO AND ACCEPTED
BY THE CITY CLERK BY THAT DEADLINE.
ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, THE REASON WHY THE COMPRESSION, IS
BECAUSE WEDNESDAY IS A HOLIDAY.
SO THE CLERK WOULD GET US, THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, THE
COMPILED APPLICATIONS, DISTRIBUTE TO CITY COUNCIL NO LATER
THAN 10 A.M.
ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12, THIS IS WHAT -- HERE IS THE
PROBLEM.
CITY COUNCIL DAYS.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SWEAR THE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE IN
ON THE 19th, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS.
WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS VOTE THEM IN AND THEN GIVE THEM TIME
TO COME TO COUNCIL WITH THEIR FAMILY AND MAKE IT A BIG DEAL,
RIGHT?
WE DIDN'T WANT THEM, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID -- SO WE
DIDN'T WANT TO OKAY, NOW YOU ARE A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL.
TAG, TAKE YOUR SEAT, YOU'LL START WORKING.
GIVE A WEEK, THAT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SCHEDULE THE
NEW PERSON WITH MR. SHELBY FOR THE BRIEFING ON LEGAL STUFF,
HR, MS. KOPESKY, GETTING ALL OF THE BACKGROUND STUFF, TRYING
TO GET THEM ONE-WEEK TRAINING ON HOW TO BE A CITY COUNCIL
PERSON.
TRYING TO BUILD IN THAT WEEK.
THE DILEMMA IS AGAIN THE 12th.
MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE WE GAVEL IN A CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FIRST THING IN THE MORNING ON THE 12th AT 9 A.M., GET THAT
DONE AND THEN GO RIGHT INTO CRA.
OKAY.
I'M DONE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:13:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FIRST OF ALL, IT CAN'T HAPPEN.
ON THE 12th, THERE IS A MAYORAL FORUM THAT GOES FROM 8 TO
10.
I'LL BE LATE TO CRA.
SO WILL BILL.
JUST TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
BECAUSE OF THAT.
SECONDLY --
3:14:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE REVERSE IT.
3:14:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S ALREADY SET.
3:14:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE WE COULD DO -- DO THE SELECTION
AFTER THAT.
3:14:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE'S THE THING, THESE ARE WELL ATTENDED
THINGS.
THE CRA IS A BIG DEAL.
THAT IS OUR MAJOR NIGHT MEETING.
WE NEED A BREAK BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS.
MY RECOMMENDATION -- IT'S WORKED FOR ME.
THIS IS HOW I GOT APPOINTED.
WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENT ON TUESDAY, ON THE 17th, A SPECIAL
CALL MEETING, AND THEN I WAS SWORN IN TWO DAYS LATER.
IT WORKED JUST FINE.
YOUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW PREPARED
YOU ARE, YOU'RE NOT PREPARED.
I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING NOT TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING, BUT
THE ROOM WAS PACKED.
I KNOW IT WAS CITYWIDE.
STILL, PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS.
3:15:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DISTRICT 7, NOBODY CARES --
3:15:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU SAID THE QUIET PART LOUD.
3:15:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT ONLY THAT, I'M SORRY, IF YOU LOOK --
3:15:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY MORRIS, SORRY ALAN.
3:15:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRA, WE HAVE SEVEN STAFF
REPORTS.
I MEAN, AND ONE OF THEM IS THE TAMPA BAY RAYS.
I'M SORRY.
I DON'T SEE HOW THIS HAPPENS.
3:15:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST VOTE YES NOW.
3:15:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T SEE HOW THIS HAPPENS.
I DO NOT THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THIS ON A COUNCIL
DAY.
EVEN IF IT IS A SHORT MEETING ON THE 17th, COULD BE A
9 A.M. SPECIAL CALL, OUT OF HERE BY NOON.
WHAT THAT ALLOWED ME WHEN I CAME TO DO THAT IS TO -- I MEAN,
THERE WERE PRESS THAT WANTED TO TALK TO ME.
I GOT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY OFFICE, GOT TO COME UP HERE
AND TAKE PHOTOS WITH MY FAMILY.
WE STILL DID ALL THAT STUFF ON THE 19th TOO ON THE
THURSDAY BECAUSE MY MOTHER CAME DOWN FROM GAINESVILLE FOR
THAT.
REALLY, IT WAS A GOOD -- FOR ME, IT WORKED REALLY WELL AND
ONLY PERSON WHO EXPERIENCED THIS, I REALLY THINK THAT WORKED
FOR ME.
THE 17th I'M OPEN AT 9.
I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE'S 17th IS.
FOR ME THAT WAS ENOUGH TIME.
WASN'T ENOUGH TIME.
WAS NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH TIME.
I THINK COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG CAN SAY THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME.
SHE HAD A DECENT GAP BETWEEN WHEN SHE GOT ELECTED.
THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF PREPARATION THAT YOU CAN DO.
I JUST THINK THAT PUTTING THEM ON A CRA DAY WHERE WE'RE
VOTING ON THE RAYS.
3:16:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IF WE DID A 4 P.M. ON THE 12th?
3:16:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE PROBLEM IS, WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL
ONLY LAST AN HOUR.
3:16:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S DISTRICT 7.
IT'S NOT CITYWIDE.
3:17:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STILL.
YOU COULD HAVE 14 PEOPLE APPLY.
OKAY, IF YOU DON'T THINK SO.
I'LL ACCEPT A 4 P.M.
THE PROBLEM IS, HOW LATE, WHAT ARE OUR EVENING ONES ON THE
12th?
3:17:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT'S 4 P.M.?
3:17:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
4 P.M. TO MAKE THE SPECIAL CALL.
3:17:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT TIME IS THE EVENING MEETING?
3:17:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
5:00.
3:17:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
5:01.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A BAD IDEA TO DO THAT.
3:17:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU'RE ASKING FOR TROUBLE.
3:17:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO START AT
5.
I STILL THINK A SPECIAL CALL IS AN EASIER WAY TO DEAL WITH
IT.
THAT'S JUST ME.
LET EVERYBODY LOOK AT THEIR CALENDARS.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON
NOVEMBER 17 AT 9 A.M. TO ELECT OR TO APPOINT A DISTRICT 7,
NEW DISTRICT 7 COUNCIL MEMBER.
TWO HOURS, THREE HOURS.
YOU VOTED FOR ME IN FIVE MINUTES.
YOU DON'T KNOW.
THERE COULD BE A 3-3 STALEMATE.
THEY PREDICTED MINE WOULD GO OVER 30 ROUNDS.
I GOT ELECTED ON THE SECOND ROUND.
THAT 30 ROUND THING SCARED THE DAYLIGHTS.
YOU NEVER KNOW.
OH, THIS WILL TAKE AN HOUR.
I THOUGHT I WOULD BE HOME BY NOW.
3:18:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS ON THIS.
I MADE THIS MOTION SO THAT WE COULD TALK TO THE PUBLIC, BE
TRANSPARENT ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
LET PEOPLE WHO APPLY.
ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, WE HAVE ALAN COHN AND MORRIS LOPEZ.
I KNOW PATRICIA ALONSO ALSO FILED FOR THE SEAT.
YOU HAVE CANDIDATES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WHO ARE WORKING
VERY, VERY HARD, KNOCKING ON DOORS, MAKING PHONE CALLS,
COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS, DOING ALL KINDS -- IT'S REALLY,
REALLY HARD RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.
BY THE WAY, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
MAYBE I HAVE NO STANDING TO SUGGEST THIS.
I'D LOVE IT IF WE DID IT BEFORE THAT.
MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPECIAL CALL ON MONDAY, TUESDAY,
WEDNESDAY.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS WILL TAKE MORE THAN TWO HOURS.
I HAVE NO STANDING TO SAY THAT WHATSOEVER.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WILL TAKE THE LONGEST.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SEEK THIS
WHO KNOWS WHAT THE PROPOSED ARRANGEMENTS WILL BE.
I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY RUN IF THEY GET
THE APPOINTMENT, WHICH I FIND TO BE VERY CYNICAL AND LAZY,
BY THE WAY, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF EVERYBODY OUT THERE DOING
THE HARD WORK RIGHT NOW.
BUT I WOULD SAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE GET SOMETHING
EARLY.
3:20:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
3:20:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS IS CONSIDERED A DRAFT AND
COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS TO FINALIZE IT, THERE MAY BE
CONFLICTS WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
THE BLC IS MEETING IN THE ROOM WITH A NOTICED PUBLIC
MEETING.
MONDAY IS CLEAR THE CLERK INFORMS ME.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WHO IS ABSENT.
ALSO, COUNCIL, LET ME TAKE TWO SECONDS, TELL YOU THE MOST
OPERATIVE TERM HERE.
THIS IS WHY THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE THAT ONCE IT IS
APPROVED NEXT WEEK, EXCUSE ME, IN TWO WEEKS, APPROVED BY THE
15th, I SUSPECT YOUR DIRECTION WILL BE TO HAVE THE
APPLICATION MADE AVAILABLE.
3:21:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING --
3:21:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO POINT THE ATTENTION TO SECTION
10.01 WHICH IS ON THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE OPERATIVE STATEMENT THERE IS THAT THE TERMS SHALL BE
FILLED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU DON'T BECOME A REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBER UNTIL THERE IS,
IN FACT, A VACANCY.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW IS ALLOWED BY LAW PRELIMINARILY TO GET
THE PROCESS IN EFFECT, AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED, COULD
WE ACTUALLY DO THIS EVEN BEFOREHAND.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, NO, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS MOVING UP, BUT,
OBVIOUSLY, HE WILL NOT BE MAKING THE APPOINTMENT BECAUSE BY
HIS DEPARTURE HE WILL BE CREATING THE VACANCY.
THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL THEN BE THE REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS
WHO CAN GO THROUGH ACCEPTING THE APPLICATIONS AND MAKING THE
DECISION IN AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING.
3:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE WE COULD ACCEPT THE
APPLICATIONS.
WE JUST CAN'T MAKE THE SELECTION UNTIL AFTER --
3:22:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHY ARGUE WITH ME --
3:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT JUST COMPRESSES THE SCHEDULE SO MUCH
NOW.
3:22:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CHARTER, I THOUGHT, IF YOU LOOK, IS A
VERY TIGHT TURNAROUND.
IT SAYS VACANCIES FILLED BY APPOINTMENT MUST BE MADE WITHIN
30 DAYS FROM THE TIME OF THE VACANCY EXISTS.
BY YOUR SCHEDULE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS 16 DAYS.
3:22:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE MUCH
FLEXIBILITY GOING FURTHER OUT IS BECAUSE OF VETERANS DAY AND
THANKSGIVING.
THAT'S WHAT KILLS US.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:22:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW LONG -- YOU SAID BLC?
HOW LONG DOES THAT MEETING GO?
3:23:03PM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:23:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE DO A 1:30 ON THE 17th?
1:30.
SO LET'S SAY 1:30 ON THE 17th.
3:23:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK CHANGE
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12 TO TUESDAY NOVEMBER 17 AT 1:30 P.M.
SAM, WE'LL HAVE TO CANCEL THE STREETCAR --
3:24:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS TUESDAY.
I ACCEPT THIS DRAFT WITH THE CHANGE THAT THE TWO-MINUTE
PRESENTATIONS, INSTEAD OF THURSDAY NOVEMBER 12, THEY WILL BE
TUESDAY NOVEMBER 17 AT 1:30 P.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
3:24:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
3:24:30PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DARLENE, COULD YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT'S ON
THE CALENDAR, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17?
3:24:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FINALIZE WHEN I BRING IT
BACK ON THE 15th.
3:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE THAT IS FINISHED WITH OUR
BUSINESS.
3:24:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOUR OFFICE MAKE SURE YOU REACH OUT TO
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S OFFICE AND MAKE SURE THAT DATE AND TIME
IS GOOD FOR HIM.
3:24:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAM, WOULD YOU PLEASE REACH OUT TO DOSSIE
TO COORDINATE WITH CARLSON'S OFFICE ON THAT?
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED PROGRAM.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, NEW BUSINESS?
3:25:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY BRIEFLY, IF I MAY.
I WANT TO PUT ON THE OCTOBER 15th CREDIT CARD, DOCKET,
WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IT'S NOTHING THAT WILL REQUIRE ANY
PRESENTATION.
JUST THAT MR. SHELBY, I WANT TO HAVE THAT DAY WITH THE
CONSENT OF COUNCIL, ALL OF THE APPOINTEES TRANSMITTED, WHAT
HAVE YOU, FOR THE VETERANS COMMITTEE FROM THE MAYOR AND
COUNCIL.
IF WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENT, IF I DID THAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE
PROPER METHOD FOR DOING THAT?
JUST HAVE A RESOLUTION?
3:25:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOUR REQUEST IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE
ACTION ON THE 15th?
3:25:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
3:25:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEN YOU CAN DO IT BY RESOLUTION AND I CAN
HAVE THAT, AS LONG AS I CAN GET THAT PERHAPS BY THE WEEKEND
BEFORE, I CAN DO THAT.
3:25:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, COUNCIL, MY MOTION IS FOR OCTOBER 15
FOR MR. SHELBY, WHOEVER THE PERSON WOULD BE TO CREATE A
RESOLUTION FOR RATIFICATION, WHATEVER THE TERM MAY BE, FOR
THE VETERANS COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, AND THAT MEANS THAT THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE THEIR
APPOINTEES IN TIME FOR THAT, JUST TO GET THAT DONE --
3:26:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAVE THE NAMES INCORPORATED INTO A
RESOLUTION.
3:26:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TECHNICALLY BY NEXT THURSDAY.
THE QUESTION THEN IS, COULD THE CLERK ALSO FORWARD THAT
MOTION TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HER STAFF?
3:26:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND MY OFFICE CAN HELP, TOO.
3:26:36PM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:26:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVERYBODY THAT IS LISTENING, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR
APPOINTMENTS FOR THE VETERANS COMMITTEE IN BY NEXT THURSDAY.
3:26:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR SEBASTIAN, LETTING COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
OFFICE KNOW AND THE MAYOR.
THANK YOU.
3:26:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGH.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:27:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SECOND, I HAVE A REQUEST FROM ACTING CHIEF BRETT OWEN IN
PURSUANT TO THE STATE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR ANNUAL STAFF
REPORT ON THE CITY'S RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM, I REQUEST
THAT THE SAID REPORT BE PLACED ON STAFF REPORT SECTION ON
THE NOVEMBER 5 REGULAR MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL.
I WILL NOT BE HERE.
3:27:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE SPACE LEFT.
YOU WANT IT FOR THAT ONE?
FOR NOVEMBER 5.
WHY ARE WE DOING IT?
3:27:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S REQUIRED BY STATUTE, APPARENTLY.
3:27:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST DID IT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
3:27:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LAST ONE, JUDGE PAUL HUEY, 13th JUDICIAL
CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE, ONE OF THE BEST GUYS I KNOW, HE'S
RETIRING.
I WANT TO GIVE HIM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
I'M GOING TO HAVE LUNCH WITH HIM NEXT WEEK AND SURPRISE HIM
WITH IT.
3:28:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OFF-SITE PRESENTATION, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
3:28:13PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO -- THERE WAS SOME -- WE HAD SOME PUBLIC COMMENT
TODAY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS
AREA.
ONE REGARDING THE 56 AND BROADWAY PROJECT.
I THINK I MAY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES ON COUNCIL.
TO ANYONE THAT'S STILL WATCHING AND JUST AS A REMINDER, I
HAVE MET WITH OUR MOBILITY AND STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO
DISCUSS THAT PROJECT, ALONG WITH TWO EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS
WHO WERE PRESENT IN THE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
AND WHAT WAS PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAPPENED IS AFTER TWO ATTEMPTS
WITH SPEAKING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER THAT OWNS THE EASEMENT
THAT WAS NEEDED TO DO THAT PROJECT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT
TO GIVE UP THE EASEMENT, AND WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO TAKE IT
FROM THEM, THAT IS WHY THE PROJECT ENDED UP BEING CANCELED.
WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THE -- SPOKE WITH BRANDON CAMPBELL AND
THEY WERE AMENABLE TO REACHING BACK OUT TO THE NEW OWNER
BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE IS ANOTHER OWNER THAT WAS THERE.
BUT ALSO SINCE THAT MEETING, THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER SOLUTION
THAT MAY BE A PATH FORWARD THAT THEY ARE EXPLORING.
SO THAT IS HAPPENING.
WE MET ABOUT IT.
WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FORGOTTEN AND IT IS A PROJECT
THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH.
ALSO, IN REGARDS TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, I WANT TO ALSO THANK
THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE HAD A FANTASTIC BUDGET MEETING.
WE KNOW THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OVER -- I THINK PROBABLY THREE
TO FOUR MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S GOING INTO SULPHUR SPRINGS
FOR FY '27 GOING TOWARD THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD
ACTION PLAN, PARK IMPROVEMENTS, HOUSING STABILITY PROGRAMS,
CRIME PREVENTION.
NEW SIDEWALKS AROUND SULPHUR SPRINGS, K-8.
WE'RE DOING A LOT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
IN ADDITION TO THE $150,000 THAT WENT FROM SURPLUS FUNDING
TO GO TOWARD SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN.
THERE'S ALSO A SULPHUR SPRINGS FRESH FOOD MARKET THAT HAS
BEEN STARTED TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE FOOD INSECURITY IN THAT
AREA, BUT THERE ARE STILL OTHER INITIATIVES THAT ARE
HAPPENING IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
I WILL ALSO SAY FROM THAT $150,000 THAT WE ALLOCATED TOWARDS
THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN AT THE SURPLUS
FUNDING, OUT OF THAT CAME A NUMBER OF SWEEPS HAPPENED IN THE
SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE ILLEGAL DUMPING
IN THE AREA, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
ALSO OUT OF THAT CAME THE SULPHUR SPRINGS STEWARD, A PROGRAM
EMPLOYING RESIDENTS AND THEY HAVE BEEN GOING AROUND IN THE
COMMUNITY TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE SWEEPS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THAT COMMUNITY.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THE YOUTH PROGRAM THAT WHEN WE HAD THE
BUDGET MEETING, THE $175,000 TOWARDS THE YOUTH PROGRAM THAT
WASN'T GOING TO BE IN FY '27, WHICH I ASKED FOR IT TO BE PUT
BACK IN, A LOT OF THE STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM, FIRST WE
RAISED THE NUMBER FROM 30 TO 70.
A LOT OF THE STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM THAT WERE INTERNING
OVER THE SUMMER WERE FROM EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS.
I HAD TWO INTERNS IN MY OFFICE THAT WERE FROM EAST TAMPA AS
WELL.
SO THIS COUNCIL IS DOING A LOT.
I WILL ALSO SAY THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT
FIVE IS ALSO DOING A LOT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR ANYONE THAT'S
STILL WITH US.
3:31:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SECOND THAT.
3:31:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BUT KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN
THAT AREA, AND WE REALLY SEE THE NEED.
I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND GREAT
THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IN THERE.
FOR ANYONE THAT'S LISTENING, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE
A COUNCIL THAT CARES, A DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE THAT CARES
AND WE'RE DOING A LOT.
3:31:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL THAT IN ONE BREATH.
3:31:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I ADD TO THAT?
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN POLITICS, I SAW THE ATTACKS, AND YOU
ARE JUST -- YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
YOU WEAR IT WELL.
YOU WEAR IT WITH VIGOR.
TO QUOTE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO SIT DOWN,
YOU STAND UP.
YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
GOT TO BE PROUD.
3:32:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:32:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE HEARD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SPECIAL CALL
WORKSHOP ON THE 12th BEING NOT NECESSARY CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL CALL WORKSHOP ON REALLOCATING REMAINDER OF FUNDS FOR
FY '27 GENERAL FUND AND CIT FUND.
I'VE HEARD THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY WANT TO MOVE THAT UNTIL
AFTER THE VOTE.
3:32:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY THREE WEEKS.
I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP TOO.
3:32:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, AFTER THE AMENDMENT 3 VOTE.
I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THAT UNTIL LATER IN NOVEMBER.
THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
OR WE CAN JUST WAIT AND SEE IF IT PASSES AND THEN SET IT.
I'M GOING TO REMOVE THE OCTOBER 12 CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL
WORKSHOP FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
3:33:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE
ELECTION AND THEN MAKE A MOTION TO SET IT.
3:33:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
3:33:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, I KNOW THIS IS TAKEN
FOR GRANTED IF WE DO THAT AND GOD FORBID THIS THING PASSES,
MAKE SURE TO HAVE A DISTRICT 7 PERSON WHENEVER YOU DO THAT.
3:33:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE, NOT A PROBLEM.
THIS IS A STAFF REQUEST.
I MADE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PEREGRINE AGREEMENT WITH THE
STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE PEREGRINE GRANT AGREEMENT TO
NOVEMBER 5, 2026, SO CHIEF OWEN CAN MEET WITH EACH COUNCIL
MEMBER PRIOR TO OUR VOTE.
STAFF HAS REQUESTED THESE ITEMS BE MOVED UP TO OCTOBER 15,
2026, AND TO TRAVEL TOGETHER.
I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE BOTH OF THESE ITEMS TO OCTOBER 15,
2026.
3:33:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AFTER MY
MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
3:34:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T KNOW CHIEF OWEN WELL ENOUGH.
WHEN HE CALLED THE OTHER DAY, I WAS GOING TO ANSWER 911,
WHAT'S YOUR EMERGENCY?
BUT I'M NOT THAT COMFORTABLE YET.
3:34:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE HAS A GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR.
3:34:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DISTRICT 5 HAS A WONDERFUL
REPRESENTATIVE AND GREAT LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
YOU ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS WORKING.
YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
I WANT TO WISH MY NIECE AND GOD DAUGHTER MIA A HAPPY 13th
BIRTHDAY.
I'LL MAKE SURE TO PULL THIS UP ON YouTube SO SHE CAN SEE
IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT AN OFF-SITE
COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA CATHOLIC CLASS OF 1976 FOR THEIR
50-YEAR REUNION IN NOVEMBER.
I BELIEVE IT'S NOVEMBER 14.
THEY INVITED ME TO PRESENT IT THERE.
3:34:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:35:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OFF-SITE PRESENTATION, COMMENDATION, IT'S
LOST IN THE OFFICE SOMEWHERE.
SHE'S NOT HERE.
I CAN'T FIND IT SO I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
3:35:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL HIT IT UP NEXT THING.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF YOU WOULD TAKE THE GAVEL, PLEASE.
3:35:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, CHAIR.
3:35:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO CONTINUE --
SORRY, TO CONTINUE THE RESCHEDULED NOISE ITEM FROM
OCTOBER 22, 2026, WORKSHOP TO THE JANUARY 28, 2027, WORKSHOP
SO THAT THE CONSULTANTS CAN ATTEND.
3:35:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN SAM REACH OUT TO KELLY?
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO STILL HAVE SOMETHING
NEXT THURSDAY -- NOT NEXT THURSDAY, THE OCTOBER 22.
IS THERE A WAY YOU COULD HOLD THAT MOTION UNTIL ONE MORE
MEETING?
I APOLOGIZE.
BOTH TPD KNOWS ABOUT IT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF WORKING WITH THEM.
YEAH, JUST HOLD IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
3:36:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK UNTIL WE HAVE
FURTHER INFORMATION.
I'VE GOT A REQUEST FROM SHUBIN LAW GROUP PA ON BEHALF OF THE
APPLICANT THAT CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULE THE FOLLOWING PRIVATE
INITIATED SMALL SCALE AMENDMENTS TO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THURSDAY,
DECEMBER 10, 2026, AT 5:01 P.M., OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, 33602, FILE TA/CPA
26-11A, TA/CPA 26-11B, FILE TA/CPA 26-11C, ALL THREE HEARD
THE SAME EVENING AND PRIOR TO FILE REZ 26-49 AND DIRECT THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF
NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ALONG WITH
WAIVING CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE TO ALLOW THE ITEMS,
THE ADDITION OF THESE THREE ITEMS.
IN FULL DISCLOSURE, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S FOR.
3:36:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIR.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
NAY.
3:37:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THE SAME THING.
IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE SITTING NEXT TO YOU.
YOU ARE A CHAMPION.
WE WERE HERE UNTIL I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME.
WE WERE HERE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND WE DIDN'T LEAVE UNTIL WAY INTO THE
EVENING.
POOR DARLENE, YOU HAD HER WORKING SO HARD.
YOU'RE HERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK, SOMETIMES WEEKENDS.
I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD.
IT IS OBVIOUS TO ME SITTING NEXT TO YOU THAT YOUR TRAJECTORY
IN THIS CAPACITY, THE INCLINE IS JUST SO GREAT.
ONE DAY I'M GOING TO SIT BACK IN MY RETIREMENT HOME AND LOOK
AT CONGRESSWOMAN YOUNG AND SAY I KNEW HER WHEN SHE WAS JUST
A FRESHMAN COUNCILPERSON.
CONGRATULATIONS.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
3:37:56PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
3:37:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
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