TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 24, 2018
9:00 A.M. WORKSHOP
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09:05:27 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
09:05:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD MORNING.
09:05:34 WE CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER AND AT THIS
09:05:37 TIME I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:05:41 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MATTHEW HALL IS AN ATTORNEY WITH A SMALL
09:05:48 UP AND COMING FIRM BY THE NAME OF HILL, WARD, HENDERSON.
09:05:52 (LAUGHTER)
09:05:52 WHO PRACTICES IN A LITIGATION GROUP.
09:05:55 I HAVE KNOWN THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:05:57 AND I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM THROUGH THE VETERANS TREATMENT
09:05:59 COURT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHERE MATT SERVED AS A MENTOR
09:06:03 PRIOR TO OH A EXTENDING LAW SCHOOL.
09:06:04 HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY DEPLOYING TO IRAQ IN
09:06:08 2003 AND ACTIVE IN NUMEROUS VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS AND A
09:06:12 GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA SCHOOL OF LAW.
09:06:14 IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING
09:06:17 AFTERWARDS FOR THE PLEDGE.
09:06:18 >> THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
09:06:30 IF YOU WILL JOIN ME AND BOW YOUR HEADS.
09:06:34 ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TODAY TO BRING YOUR BLESSINGS UPON
09:06:37 US AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT YOU HAVE ALLOWED
09:06:40 US TO ENJOY.
09:06:41 WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE THOSE CHARGED WITH OUR GREAT CITY'S
09:06:44 GOVERNANCE THE WISDOM AND STRENGTH TO GUIDE YOUR PEOPLE AND
09:06:47 HONOR THEIR FREEDOM, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
09:06:49 WE PRAY NOT ONLY FOR THE WISDOM AND SAFETY OF OUR CITY
09:06:51 COUNCIL BUT HIMSELF FIRST RESPONDERS.
09:06:53 GIVE US -- BELIEF TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF MEN BUT NOT IN
09:07:00 CONTRADICTION OF YOUR GREATER LAWS AND COMMANDMENT.
09:07:02 THROUGH OUR LAWMAKERS GIVE THEM THE WILL AND WISDOM THAT
09:07:05 THEY REFLECT HONOR UPON OUR CITY, OUR STATE, OUR COUNTRY,
09:07:09 AND GLORIFY YOUR HOLY NAME. WE PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR
09:07:12 DEFENDERS, OUR SOLDIERS BOTH AT HOME AND ABROAD, LET THEM
09:07:17 PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE IN THE FORCE OF FREEDOM HERE AND
09:07:20 ELSEWHERE. THIS WEEK AS WE APPROACH MEMORIAL DAY LET US
09:07:23 PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES OF OUR DEPARTED HEROES AND THOSE WHO
09:07:26 SERVED ALONGSIDE, BUT WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO COME HOME AND
09:07:29 CARRY ON IN YOUR NAME AND IN THEIR MEMORY.
09:07:32 REMEMBER THOSE WHO WALKED ACROSS THE DESERTS OF AFRICA, THE
09:07:37 ISLANDS OF THE PACIFIC, SEVERAL IN OUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY,
09:07:40 THOSE WHO FOUGHT IN THE JUNGLES OF SOUTHEAST ASIA AND
09:07:43 VIETNAM AND FOR THOSE WHO VOLUNTEERED DONNED THE UNIFORMS TO
09:07:47 FIGHT IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
09:07:48 WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE MEN AND WOMEN AND THOSE WHO NOW GUARD
09:07:53 THE GATES OF FREEDOM.
09:07:54 FINALLY GIVE US STRENGTH IN THIS TIME THAT LOVE, COMPASSION
09:07:58 AND DUTY TOWARDS OTHER, NOT ANGER AND RAGE.
09:08:01 GUIDE US IN THIS CITY AS WE LIVE OUR LIVES AND CARRY OUT
09:08:04 YOUR WORDS.
09:08:05 LORD, HEAR OUR PRAYERS TODAY.
09:08:07 AMEN.
09:08:08 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:08:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
09:08:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
09:08:30 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
09:08:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:08:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
09:08:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:08:34 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:08:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
09:08:36 ALL RIGHT.
09:08:39 CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
09:08:41 ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:08:42 MR. MIRANDA.
09:08:42 >> HONORABLE CHAIRMAN, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, BE IT'S MY
09:08:57 PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO BE HERE TO BE PART OF THE
09:09:00 PRESENTATION FOR THE COMMENDATION OF POLICE OFFICER OF THE
09:09:02 MONTH.
09:09:03 TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL BE ASSISTANT CHIEF VAZQUEZ WHO
09:09:10 WILL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF CHIEF DUGAN.
09:09:13 AND LET ME JUST SAY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVED THIS COUNTRY
09:09:18 AND SERVED THIS CITY, AND THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
09:09:22 WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
09:09:23 AND IF WE WERE PERFECT WE WOULDN'T MAKE MISTAKES.
09:09:29 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR,
09:09:35 UNDER ALL WEATHER CONDITIONS, NO MATTER WHAT THE PROBLEMS
09:09:38 ARE, THEY ARE THERE TO SERVE US TO THE BEST OF THE CAPACITY
09:09:41 THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN TO DO, TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION,
09:09:45 TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, AND IT'S MY HONOR THIS MORNING
09:09:49 TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU TO INTRODUCE ASSISTANT CHIEF ELI
09:09:53 VAZQUEZ WHO WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION TO OFFICER TOBIN MYERS.
09:09:59 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:10:02 ASSISTANT CHIEF ELI VAZQUEZ, ON BEHALF OF CHIEF BRIAN DUGAN.
09:10:07 I WANT TO THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR
09:10:10 BUSY SCHEDULES TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THE FINE OFFICERS, AN
09:10:18 8 YEAR VETERAN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:10:19 HE WORKS EXTREMELY HARD DAY IN AND DAY OUT SERVING THE
09:10:22 CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
09:10:24 FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, OFFICER MYERS HAS BEEN A RELIABLE
09:10:27 AND WELL-ROUNDED FIELD TRAINED OFFICER, TRAINING
09:10:33 PROBATIONARY OFFICERS, WHICH IS VERY MUCH REQUIRED.
09:10:36 IN ADDITION, HE HAS TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO REVIEW AND
09:10:42 OPERATIONS TO COMBAT PROBLEMS.
09:10:44 OFFICER MYERS RECENTLY ADDRESSED THE NUMEROUS AND
09:10:46 UNNECESSARY CALL FOR SERVICE BEING GENERATED AT A LOCAL GAS
09:10:50 STATION ON NEBRASKA INVOLVING NARCOTICS AND OTHER
09:10:53 COMPLAINTS.
09:10:56 HE DID A HISTORICAL REVIEW OF THE BUSINESS CONDUCTED AN
09:10:58 OPERATIONAL PLAN AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CRIME
09:11:01 ANALYSTS CREATED A SPREADSHEET WHICH CONTAINED THE NAMES AND
09:11:05 PHOTOGRAPHS OF 97 PEOPLE WITH CURRENT TRESPASS WARNINGS FROM
09:11:09 THE VICTIM.
09:11:10 THE INITIATIVE WAS MONITORED FROM DECEMBER 2017 THROUGH
09:11:13 MARCH 2018 AND RESULTED IN 23 ARRESTS FROM THE LIST OF 32
09:11:19 NEW TRESPASS WARNINGS BEING ISSUED.
09:11:21 THE AREA SAW A TREMENDOUS VISUAL IMPROVEMENT AND INCREASE IN
09:11:25 THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE IN THAT AREA.
09:11:28 OFFICER MYERS SECOND INITIATIVE WAS A TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT
09:11:31 RENEWAL PROJECT THAT RESULTED IN OFFICER MYERS DIRECTING THE
09:11:35 FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS AND THEIR PROBATIONARY OFFICERS TO
09:11:38 OBTAIN CURRENT TRESPASS AFFIDAVITS FROM OVER 87 HIGH-TRAFFIC
09:11:45 BUSINESSES NOT JUST IN THE AREA WHERE HE WORKS BUT OTHER
09:11:49 DISTRICT AS WELL.
09:11:50 HE ORGANIZES AND COLLECTED DATA FROM THE SPREADSHEET WHICH
09:11:54 INCLUDED PHOTOS OF THE BUSINESS, SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE
09:11:57 BUSINESS, AND THE REPORTED NUMBERS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR
09:12:02 RESPONDING OFFICERS TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
09:12:04 ON ANOTHER OCCASION, 2017, OFFICER MYERS TOOK TIME TO REVIEW
09:12:08 170 ISOLATED CASES WITHIN HIS DISTRICT ALONE WHICH RESULTED
09:12:14 IN 30 CASES BEING SUBMITTED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW
09:12:17 ENFORCEMENT FOR ANALYSIS AND NINE CASES AWAITING FDLE
09:12:22 RESULTS FOR PROSECUTION FROM. THAT CASE HE WROTE 17
09:12:25 CRIMINAL AFFIDAVITS RESULTING IN 8 LOCAL PICKUPS, 5 ARRESTS,
09:12:30 THREE DIRECT FILES, 6 ADD-ON CHARGES TO PEOPLE THAT WERE
09:12:35 ALREADY IN JAIL.
09:12:36 HE REACHED OUT TO THE DISTRICT 3 OFFICERS TO DIRECT THE
09:12:39 NECESSARY RESOURCES IN LOCATING THE SUSPECT.
09:12:43 WITH ACTIVE WARRANTS AND LOCAL PICKUPS FOR RELATED OFFENSES.
09:12:49 OFFICER MYERS ALSO TRACKED DOWN SUBJECTS WITH FELONY
09:12:53 WARRANTS.
09:12:53 ON FEBRUARY 24, 2018 HE ATTEMPTED TO LOCATE A SUBJECT WANTED
09:12:57 FOR FIREARMS OFFENSES.
09:12:59 THE SUBJECT BARRICADED HIMSELF IN A RESIDENCE ONCE HE KNEW
09:13:03 OFFICERS MYERS WAS IN THE AREA AND WE HAD TO CALL THE SWAT
09:13:05 TEAM OUT THERE TO CONVINCE HIM TO COME OUT OF THE HOUSE AND
09:13:09 TURN HIMSELF IN WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
09:13:12 SO THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE OFFICER
09:13:15 MYERS AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
09:13:18 RECOGNIZING THAT.
09:13:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:22 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:13:22 >> VICE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA PBA.
09:13:33 ABE COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.
09:13:34 HE HAD ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT.
09:13:35 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN EACH MONTH FOR GIVING US
09:13:38 THE VENUE TO HONOR OFFICERS EACH MONTH.
09:13:41 IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR DEPARTMENT.
09:13:43 TOBIN HAS BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT EIGHT YEARS.
09:13:47 I WAS WITH FPO WHEN HE CAME ON THE PROGRAM AND NOW HE'S ONE.
09:13:54 YOU CAN TELL THAT HE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ALL OUR OFFICERS
09:13:57 SHOULD BE AND WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY ON THE STREET.
09:14:01 HE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR ALL OFFICERS.
09:14:03 SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:14:04 TOBIN, ON BEHALF OF TAMPA PBA, WE ARE GIVING YOU A WATCH.
09:14:10 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:14:11 >> JIM CARSON, BILL CURRIE FORD ON BEHALF OF THE CURRIE
09:14:17 FAMILY AND MYSELF I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU A BRAND NEW
09:14:20 MUSTANG.
09:14:24 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:14:26 >> DAN MATHIS ON BEHALF OF STRAZ CENTER.
09:14:34 THIS MORNING I HAVE WITH ME BOB WATKINS, SECURITY MANAGER,
09:14:39 HIS FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, SO WELCOME HIM.
09:14:42 OFFICER MYERS, ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER, I WANT TO
09:14:45 PRESENT YOU WITH TWO TICKETS TO ONE OF OUR SHOWS, BUT I WANT
09:14:49 TO TAKE YOU BACK.
09:14:50 AND I MIGHT REVEAL MY AGE.
09:14:52 BUT THAT GOES BACK TO THE OLD CONCEPT INTRODUCED BY HERMAN
09:14:57 GOLDSTEIN THAT IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM, YOU ANALYZE IT, AND
09:15:02 SOLVED IT.
09:15:02 AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR BRINGING THAT OLD CONCEPT
09:15:05 BACK.
09:15:08 IT TOOK TIME TO GET LOST IN ALL THE CRIME FIGHTING ON A
09:15:11 REGULAR BASIS SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
09:15:13 ENJOY.
09:15:14 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:15:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:15:23 TAMPA THEATRE.
09:15:27 WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE
09:15:29 THEATER SO YOU CAN COME AND VISIT US FREE.
09:15:33 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:15:33 >> STEPPS TOWING SERVICE.
09:15:43 AND THIS TAKES ME BACK TO HIGH SCHOOL 26 YEARS AGO.
09:15:46 WE DO A LOT OF THIS EVERY MONTH AND TODAY I'M MORE NERVOUS
09:15:50 THAN EVER BECAUSE MY HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER IS SITTING BEHIND
09:15:53 ME.
09:15:54 SO THANK YOU.
09:16:00 OFFICER MYERS, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR
09:16:04 COMMUNITY.
09:16:04 I PRESENT YOU WITH A $50 BASS PRO GIFT CARD AND A NIGHT OUT
09:16:09 FOR YOU AND THE FAMILY TO ENJOY.
09:16:12 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
09:16:14 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:16 >> TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
09:16:21 OFFICER MYERS, ON BEHALF OF THE AUTHORITY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
09:16:24 SERVICE.
09:16:24 AND I PRESENT YOU WITH A GIFT CARD, $50 AT APPLEBEE'S.
09:16:30 YOU CAN TAKE THE LIMO TO APPLEBEE'S.
09:16:33 >> PETE BRADLEY, BUSCH GARDENS TAMPA BAY.
09:16:41 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A
09:16:44 COMMUNITY, AS A WHOLE, FOR ALLOWING US TO BE PARTNERS IN
09:16:47 RECOGNIZING THE FINE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE AT TAMPA POLICE
09:16:49 DEPARTMENT.
09:16:52 I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH TOBIN.
09:16:56 HE'S AN INCREDIBLE COP BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY A GREAT HUMAN
09:16:59 BEING, AND BUSCH GARDENS WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH FOUR
09:17:03 TICKETS.
09:17:03 HE WORKS THERE OCCASIONALLY.
09:17:04 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT VISIT FOR HIM.
09:17:08 (LAUGHTER)
09:17:09 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:17:13 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT'S EASY TO SAY WE APPRECIATE YOUR
09:17:15 SERVICE, AND IT'S ANOTHER THING TO GET OUT ON THE STREETS
09:17:18 EVERY DAY AND DO IT.
09:17:19 SO IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES, AND OTHER TIMES IT'S A
09:17:22 WALK IN THE PARK.
09:17:24 BUT IT'S THOSE DIFFICULT TIMES THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE
09:17:26 WHAT YOU DO.
09:17:28 ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL OF THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES, I WOULD
09:17:32 LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR EFFORTS FOR THAT.
09:17:35 ONE OF THEM IS PRESTIGE PORTRAITS.
09:17:37 WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WITH A PORTRAIT
09:17:39 PACKAGE FOR YOU.
09:17:41 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA METROPOLITAN YMCA WE ARE PROVIDING YOU
09:17:45 WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO GO ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
09:17:48 ON BEHALF OF CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP WE ARE PROVIDING YOU
09:17:51 A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO GO ENJOY YOURSELF AT ANY ONE OF THEY
09:17:56 THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS.
09:17:58 ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, A GIFT CERTIFICATE,
09:18:03 AND USUALLY THE CHIEF LIKES TO GO WITH YOU FOR THAT ONE.
09:18:06 BUT ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:18:09 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
09:18:24 380,000 RESIDENTS IN THE GREAT CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR
09:18:31 INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF WHO DO YOUR JOB DAY IN AND DAY
09:18:33 OUT, WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO
09:18:38 YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF VAZQUEZ, HOW
09:18:44 WONDERFUL EVERYTHING YOU DO.
09:18:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING, BOTH MEN
09:18:48 AND WOMEN OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE VERY MUCH
09:18:51 APPRECIATED.
09:18:52 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:53 >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR HAVING ME HERE
09:18:59 TODAY.
09:19:01 THANK YOU, ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT DONATE THINGS.
09:19:03 THAT'S VERY GENEROUS AND UNEXPECTED.
09:19:08 THANKS TO THE STAFF.
09:19:09 THEY GIVE ME THE TOOLS I NEED TO DO MY JOB.
09:19:12 THANK YOU TO MY FAMILY FOR ALL THE NIGHTS THAT I HAVEN'T
09:19:14 BEEN HOME.
09:19:15 THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE.
09:19:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:19 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:29 >> OFFICER MYERS, IS YOUR FAMILY HERE?
09:19:31 >> NO, SIR.
09:19:33 MY WIFE WORKS NIGHTS SO SHE PROBABLY WENT TO BED TWO OR
09:19:36 THREE HOURS AGO.
09:19:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU HAD A FEAR OF THAT PODIUM LIKE NOTHING I
09:19:42 HAVE EVER SEEN BEFORE, MOVING FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY AS
09:19:45 EVERYBODY KEPT COMING UP.
09:19:46 WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR US, AND
09:19:48 EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR TPD.
09:19:51 THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK.
09:19:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
09:19:54 ALL RIGHT.
09:19:55 I WANT TO THANK YOU.
09:20:17 WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:20:19 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:20:20 >> IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TO HONOR THE INDIVIDUALS
09:20:44 AND FAMILIES OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA CHAPTER 787
09:20:48 FROM TAMPA FOR THEIR 40th ANNIVERSARY. THIS IS A VERY,
09:20:52 VERY SPECIAL GROUP OF AMERICANS WHO AS I ALWAYS SAY, WE
09:20:55 REALLY CAN'T SAY ENOUGH THANK YOU TO, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T
09:20:59 STOP US FROM TRYING.
09:21:00 AND THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS HERE TO DO TODAY.
09:21:03 WE HONOR THIS ORGANIZATION WHICH WAS FOUNDED IN 1970 ON THE
09:21:06 IDEA THAT NEVER AGAIN WILL ONE GENERATION OF VETERANS ALLOW
09:21:09 ANOTHER GENERATION OF VETERANS TO BE LEFT BEHIND OR
09:21:13 FORGOTTEN, OR NOT THANKED LIKE THEY SHOULD.
09:21:16 NEVER AGAIN WILL WE ALLOW YOUNG AMERICANS LIKE SO MANY GO
09:21:19 OFF TODAY TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN TO COME HOME AND TO BE
09:21:23 WELCOMED NOT BY THANKS, NOT BY HUGS, NOT BY PARADES, BUT BY
09:21:29 SOMETIMES SILENCE AND SOMETIMES WITH WORD.
09:21:35 WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF LIKE THE GOLD STAR
09:21:42 MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF TAMPA BAY, ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE
09:21:45 USO, ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THUNDER, SO MANY GROUPS MAKING SURE
09:21:51 THAT TODAY'S GENERATION OF YOUNG VETERANS DOESN'T HAVE TO GO
09:21:54 THROUGH WHAT SO MANY OF THESE AMERICANS HAD. TO GO THROUGH.
09:21:58 I COULD CERTAINLY SAY A LOT ABOUT SO MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS
09:22:02 HERE TODAY INCLUDING SO MANY OF THE MEN WHO I REALLY AM
09:22:06 HONORED TO KNOW AS FRIEND.
09:22:08 BUT I FOUND A SHORT POEM THAT I THINK REALLY EXPRESSES WHAT
09:22:11 I FEEL, WHAT I THINK EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT THESE MEN HERE.
09:22:14 IT'S CALLED I KNOW YOU.
09:22:15 AND IT'S SHORT BUT IT GOES:
09:22:18 I KNOW YOU.
09:22:19 YOU MAY NOT KNOW ME.
09:22:20 BUT I SAW YOU.
09:22:21 YOUR ARMS REACHED OUT, YOUR MOUTH GASPING FOR ONE LAST
09:22:26 BREATH.
09:22:26 YOU CARRIED WOUNDS NOT SEEN WITH SCARS.
09:22:28 YOU CARRIED MEMORIES THAT BURN DEEP AND BURN LIKE FIRE.
09:22:31 DREAMS THAT NEVER LEAVE.
09:22:33 YOU CHOKE UP WHEN A FLAG PASSES BY.
09:22:35 YOU FALL TO YOUR KNEES NOT FROM FAITH BUT FROM WEAKNESS.
09:22:40 IT IS WORN BADGES, THE PROUD MEDALS.
09:22:45 YOU MAY NOT KNOW ME BUT I KNOW YOU.
09:22:47 YOU WERE A VETERAN FROM A WAR THAT NOT MANY LIKED.
09:22:49 YOU GAVE WHEN NO ONE WANTED.
09:22:52 YOU SUFFERED OFTEN WHEN IN A ONE CARED.
09:22:54 YOU SALUTED A FLAG THAT YOU FELT TURNED ITS BACK ON YOU.
09:22:58 YOU ARE A VIETNAM VETERAN.
09:23:01 YOU CARED.
09:23:02 MY CHILDREN KNOW FREEDOM BECAUSE YOU FOUGHT FOR IT.
09:23:05 YOU MAY NOT KNOW ME BUT I KNOW YOU.
09:23:08 AND WE ALL WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:23:11 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:23:19 AND WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF CHAPTER 77, ALSO WE GATHERED
09:23:28 SOME GIFTS FOR YOU GUYS FROM SOME LOCAL APPRECIATIVE FOLKS.
09:23:31 WE HAVE HERE SOME GIFTS THEY'LL BE GIVING AFTERWARDS FROM
09:23:34 THE COLUMBIA WHICH GAVE GIFT CERTIFICATES FOR YOU AND YOUR
09:23:39 MEMBERS TO ENJOY AT ONE OF OUR BEST RESTAURANTS.
09:23:42 STEVE MICHELINI, OHIO BELIEVE IS STILL HERE, GOT GIFT
09:23:46 CERTIFICATES FROM HIS CLIENT.
09:23:47 AND RICHARD BOWERS, AN ATTORNEY IS HERE, ALSO GOT SOME GIFT
09:23:51 CERTIFICATES FROM CHICK FIL-A.
09:23:53 SO I WILL BE GIVING THAT TO YOU ALL AFTERWARDS.
09:23:55 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:23:56 AND COLONEL FLETCHER, IF YOU WOULD, SIR.
09:23:58 >> COLONEL FLETCHER: HONORABLE COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING.
09:24:04 ON BEHALF OF CHAPTER 787 AND THE FLORIDA STATE COUNCIL
09:24:08 REPRESENTED TODAY BY MIKE OY SURE, WHO MENTIONED THAT HE
09:24:17 BELIEVES THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT CITY GOVERNMENT HAS
09:24:19 RECOGNIZED A CHAPTER OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA ON
09:24:25 THE 40th ANNIVERSARY.
09:24:26 SO WE ARE MOST GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
09:24:28 AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND ESPECIALLY OUR FRIEND LUIS,
09:24:35 THERE'S NOT A BETTER SUPPORTER OF VETERANS THAN LUIS AND WE
09:24:38 ALL KNOW THAT.
09:24:40 IT'S GRATIFYING TO RECEIVE THIS HONOR ON THIS THE MEMORIAL
09:24:44 DAY WEEK AS WE RECOGNIZE THE 58,272 BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO
09:24:54 GAVE THEIR ALL DURING THE WAR.
09:24:57 TO MARK THIS OCCASION WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT EACH OF THE
09:25:00 COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH A 40th ANNIVERSARY COIN AND A
09:25:03 CHAPTER COIN ON BEHALF OF US AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU
09:25:09 FOR THIS HONOR.
09:25:12 IF YOU WOULD, PRESENTERS, PLEASE STEP UP.
09:26:10 >>LUIS VIERA: COLONEL, THANK YOU, SIR.
09:27:54 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:27:55 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:27:58 THANK YOU AGAIN.
09:28:03 >> I HAVE A SHORT REMINDER.
09:28:05 THIS SUNDAY AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK ON HIGHWAY 301, WE
09:28:10 WILL HAVE OUR ANNUAL MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY.
09:28:13 YOU ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO JOIN US.
09:28:16 THANK YOU.
09:28:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:28:18 I'LL BE THERE.
09:28:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
09:28:47 AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:28:52 MR. SHELBY.
09:28:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC
09:28:58 COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
09:29:00 THREE MINUTES HAS BEEN SET ASIDE PER SPEAKER.
09:29:03 IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A WORKSHOP ITEM, THE TIME TO
09:29:06 SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT MATTER IS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE
09:29:09 WORKSHOP.
09:29:11 AT THIS TIME EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
09:29:12 PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME.
09:29:14 AND IT IS REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED
09:29:16 PERSONALLY TO A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER
09:29:19 ISSUES DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
09:29:22 CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION TO MAINTAINING
09:29:25 ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
09:29:28 THANK YOU.
09:29:28 >> HI.
09:29:36 MY NAME IS MEGAN.
09:29:39 I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I FELT COMPELLED TO DO SOMETHING
09:29:42 AFTER I WATCHED THE TRAGIC EVENTS THAT UNFOLDED.
09:29:51 I WANTED TO DO ANYTHING.
09:29:52 SO I RAN IT BY MY FRIENDS TO BE SEE IF IT WAS ANYBODY THAT I
09:29:58 POSSIBLY KNEW, OR I KNOW HOW MUCH WE ALL ENJOY THE BENEFITS
09:30:01 OF BAYSHORE AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYONE.
09:30:04 IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME.
09:30:05 AND JULIA SAID SHE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT, SHE AVOIDED
09:30:11 TRAFFIC, SHE SAW A BREAK, AND SHE TOOK IT.
09:30:14 HOW WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT WAS COMING?
09:30:17 I'M SORRY.
09:30:20 THERE AREN'T SAFER CROSSINGS TO GET TO THE PATH WHICH IS
09:30:24 KNOWN AS THE WORLD'S CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK.
09:30:26 TODAY WE ASK FOR THROW THINGS.
09:30:28 COUNCIL MEMBER THOUGHT ABOUT CHANGES THAT THE SITUATION
09:30:32 DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
09:30:33 ARE THERE PLANS TO DISCUSS CHANGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
09:30:35 AND IF SO WHEN?
09:30:37 IS THE COUNCIL WILLING TO WORK WITH, TO SPEAK WITH AND TO
09:30:40 MEET WITH AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE IDEAS OF THE LOCAL
09:30:43 GROUPS SUCH AS LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS,
09:30:47 WALK-RUN-BIKE TAMPA, TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER AND MORE
09:30:51 PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
09:30:52 I KNOW THAT THE MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE ALREADY
09:30:54 BEEN COMMUNICATING ABOUT SOLUTIONS TO HELP THE PROBLEM
09:30:58 BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY IS A PROBLEM.
09:30:59 AS A MOM I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
09:31:02 I WANT THEM TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS AND AS A FELLOW NEIGHBOR I
09:31:05 WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS AND ALL THAT
09:31:09 TAMPA HAS TO OFFER.
09:31:10 AND OUR COMMUNITY IS SO UNIQUE AND THAT EVERYONE ACTUALLY IS
09:31:13 A NEIGHBOR.
09:31:14 I MAY BE JUST A MOM BUT I AM WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO
09:31:17 SECURE THE FUTURE SAFETY OF MY FRIENDS AND MY NEIGHBORS.
09:31:19 I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT SOLUTION IT IS COUNCIL MAY
09:31:22 COME UP WITH TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THOSE WHO LIKE TO WALK
09:31:26 BAYSHORE AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
09:31:28 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
09:31:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:31:31 >> I WON'T BE AS ELOQUENT AS MEGAN.
09:31:36 MY NAME IS MEGHAN. BUT WE MOVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
09:31:39 MY HUSBAND ACTIVE DUTY.
09:31:41 WE MOVED AROUND A LOT.
09:31:42 BUT UPON MOVING HERE WITH OUR TWO KIDS I WAS APPALLED AT HOW
09:31:46 UNSAFE I FEEL WALKING DOWN MY STREET, AND YESTERDAY WAS THE
09:31:50 LAST STRAW FOR ME.
09:31:52 WE LIVED A COUPLE BLOCKS FROM BAYSHORE ALMOST A YEAR NOW AND
09:31:56 WE HAVE GONE FOUR TIMES BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE
09:31:58 CROSSING IT WITH MY CHILDREN.
09:32:00 I AM HERE FOR THE SAME THINGS MEGAN ASKED FOR BUT I FEEL
09:32:03 LIKE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SUCH A LOOMING HUGE FINANCIAL
09:32:07 IMPACT.
09:32:07 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING PAINT ON THE CROSSING WAYS SO
09:32:12 PEOPLE CAN CROSS WHEN THERE'S NOT A LIGHT AND HAVE A
09:32:14 DESIGNATED AREA.
09:32:15 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE
09:32:18 TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SPEEDING THAT HAPPENS, POTENTIALLY
09:32:23 SPEED BUMPS, THINGS THAT ARE ACHIEVABLE, QUICK, ACTIONABLE,
09:32:26 AND RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, AND OF COURSE WE ALL HAVE OUR
09:32:30 PIPE DREAMS OF PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES AND WHATNOT.
09:32:32 BUT AGAIN, TO MEGAN'S POINT, THIS IS ADVERTISED AS SUCH A
09:32:38 BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE, AND EVEN WHEN YOU ARE ON
09:32:40 THE SIDEWALK IT'S TERRIFYING, HOW MANY CARS CAN RUN OFF OF
09:32:44 THE SIDEWALK AND INTO THE GREEN SPACE AND INTO THE SEAWALL.
09:32:47 SO WE ARE JUST ASKING YOU TO HELP US PROTECT OUR FAMILIES
09:32:50 AND OUR COMMUNITY.
09:32:50 >> WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME?
09:32:52 >> I'M SORRY.
09:32:53 MEGHAN HAVICK.
09:32:57 THANK YOU.
09:32:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:32:59 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:33:06 MIKE NICHOLSON, A RESIDENT OF TAMPA LIFE-LONG.
09:33:11 AND I HAVE ENJOYED BAYSHORE MY ENTIRE LIFE.
09:33:15 BUT AFTER YESTERDAY, IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF HARD TO ENJOY
09:33:18 IT ANYMORE.
09:33:22 A FAMILY HAS BEEN TORN APART.
09:33:24 THEY CAME TO TAMPA TO VISIT FAMILY.
09:33:28 AND WENT TO ENJOY ONE OF OUR GREATEST LANDMARKS.
09:33:32 AND NOW THEY GO HOME WITH JUST PAIN.
09:33:37 AND I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE FAMILY.
09:33:39 AND THEY ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED.
09:33:42 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
09:33:45 I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH THE COUSIN OF JESSICA.
09:33:50 AND I WAS IN CONTACT WITH JESSICA'S UNCLE TODAY.
09:33:54 AND HE DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO.
09:33:58 HE'S IN THE HOSPITAL RIGHT IN AND OUT WITH ALL THE FAMILY.
09:34:02 I USE BAYSHORE WEEKLY.
09:34:04 I CROSS FOUR BLOCKS FROM WHERE JESSICA WAS STRUCK.
09:34:12 I CAN'T LOSE ANY MORE LIMBS.
09:34:14 SO SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
09:34:18 I KNOW ALL OF YOU SUPPORT SAFER CROSSWALKS AND THINGS LIKE
09:34:22 THAT.
09:34:23 BUT WE NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
09:34:25 IT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP.
09:34:28 IF WE ARE DODGING CARS JUST BY TRYING TO GET TO A SIDEWALK,
09:34:34 THAT'S NOT -- NOT ENJOYING LIFE.
09:34:38 THAT'S UNNECESSARY.
09:34:41 AS MEGAN SAID BEFORE, IT'S PAINT.
09:34:48 HOW MANY CROSSWALKS THERE ARE BAY TO BAY TO GANDY?
09:34:52 THERE ARE NONE.
09:34:53 ZEROS.
09:34:53 THE ONLY CROSSWALKS ON BAYSHORE TOTAL, TWO.
09:35:00 THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
09:35:04 I DON'T KNOW THE NEXT STEP.
09:35:06 HOPEFULLY YOU ALL DO.
09:35:07 BUT IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN.
09:35:13 IF IT HAPPENED TO ME MY WIFE WOULD BE LEFT WITH TWO KIDS.
09:35:17 IF IT WAS MY WIFE AND MY SON, I WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT ANGRIER
09:35:21 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
09:35:25 THAT'S ALL YOU CAN THINK OF WHENEVER I THINK OF WHAT
09:35:28 HAPPENED.
09:35:29 MY KIDS, SOMEONE ELSE'S KIDS.
09:35:33 COUNTLESS STROLLERS YOU SEE PUSHING ALONG BAYSHORE EVERY
09:35:36 DAY.
09:35:37 [BELL SOUNDS]
09:35:38 AND NOT KNOWING IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO
09:35:41 THEIR FAMILIES.
09:35:43 IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
09:35:45 THERE NEEDS TO BE SAFER CROSSWALKS, LOWER SPEED LIMIT.
09:35:51 I DON'T KNOW IF INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE WILL HELP.
09:35:54 MAYBE IT WILL.
09:35:55 MAYBE IT WON'T.
09:35:56 BUT FIRST STEP IS GETTING SOME PAINT ON THE ROAD.
09:36:00 THANK YOU.
09:36:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:36:02 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:36:03 >> HI.
09:36:08 MY NAME IS ASHLEY PHILLIPS.
09:36:11 I AM FIRST OF ALL A MOM OF TWO LITTLE KIDS, A TWO-YEAR-OLD,
09:36:16 AND SIX-YEAR-OLD.
09:36:18 WE LIVE WITHIN THE PALMA CEIA COMMUNITY.
09:36:20 AND I ALSO AM ON THE BOARD FOR PALMA CEIA NEIGHBORHOOD
09:36:24 ASSOCIATION.
09:36:25 SO LIKE MANY OF THE SPEAKERS EARLIER TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE
09:36:29 ANGERED AND OUTRAGED THAT THIS HAPPENED BUT NOT SHOCKED OR
09:36:33 SURPRISED.
09:36:36 SETTING UP A ROAD LITERALLY THAT LONG AND NOT PROVIDING SAFE
09:36:42 ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THAT ROAD, THAT IS A DEADLY
09:36:47 COMBINATION.
09:36:48 AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO ADDRESS.
09:36:52 WE NEED TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THIS PROBLEM, AND IT'S
09:36:55 SOMETHING THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS WORKING ON.
09:36:58 LAST NIGHT, I EMAILED ALL OF THE PRESIDENTS OF NEIGHBORHOOD
09:37:02 ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE ALONG BAYSHORE TO SET UP A MEETING TO
09:37:06 DISCUSS CHANGES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL DIRECTLY
09:37:12 AFFECT THIS ISSUE.
09:37:13 THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THAT HE WOULD
09:37:17 COULD TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
09:37:20 BUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, GETTING PEOPLE FROM ONE SIDE OF
09:37:24 BAYSHORE TO THE OTHER IS AFFIX THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE
09:37:31 SOLVED QUICKLY AND CAN BE SOLVED QUICKLY.
09:37:35 OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT I THINK COULD
09:37:37 BE DONE.
09:37:39 I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS.
09:37:40 LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST A MOM.
09:37:42 BUT REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT.
09:37:44 THAT IS ONE.
09:37:46 CREATING MORE SAFE CROSSWALKS.
09:37:49 THAT IS TWO.
09:37:50 ALSO, STOPLIGHTS TO REDUCE THE SPEED.
09:37:54 I'M NOT A FAN OF JUST HAVING CROSSWALKS ON BAYSHORE AND
09:37:57 HAVING PEOPLE STARTING TO GO ACROSS THE ROAD WITHOUT ANY
09:38:02 MEANS FOR THOSE CARS TO STOP.
09:38:04 I'M AFRAID OF THAT SITUATION.
09:38:06 BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME COMMON GROUND, AND WE NEED TO
09:38:10 ADDRESS THIS SOON.
09:38:12 OBVIOUSLY, MAYOR BUCKHORN HAS TO BE A PART OF THIS SOLUTION
09:38:16 AS WELL.
09:38:17 AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, HONOR THIS
09:38:22 WOMAN, HONOR THIS FAMILY, AND HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE ALSO BEEN
09:38:26 AT RISK WHEN TRAVELING ACROSS THIS ROAD.
09:38:29 WE WILL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
09:38:31 WE ARE STARTING TO BAND TOGETHER.
09:38:35 AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BECAUSE
09:38:37 WE CAN DO BETTER AS A CITY, AND WE DESERVE TO DO BETTER.
09:38:41 THANK YOU.
09:38:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
09:38:44 >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU.
09:38:45 I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS UNDER NEW BUSINESS, BECAUSE
09:38:49 THERE WAS SO MUCH DISCUSSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT I WANT TO
09:38:52 ADDRESS IT NOW.
09:38:54 FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SAID FROM THIS
09:39:01 DAIS.
09:39:01 AND I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE SAYING IT ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US
09:39:05 THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST OUR HEARTS AND SYMPATHIES GO OUT TO
09:39:08 THE FAMILIES AFFECTED BY THIS TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.
09:39:13 THE FACTS OF THIS CASE ARE STILL UNFOLDING, AND IT REALLY
09:39:17 DOES SEEM LIKE IT WAS AN ENTIRELY SENSELESS AND ALMOST
09:39:22 INCOMPREHENSIBLE ACT THAT OCCURRED.
09:39:26 THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY DOING RIGHT
09:39:30 NOW ON BAYSHORE.
09:39:32 THE PROJECT, THERE ARE ACTUALLY ORANGE CONES AND WORKMEN OUT
09:39:37 AS WE SPEAK GOING ON FROM BAY TO BAY ALL THE WAY TO GANDY IS
09:39:41 GOING TO NARROW THE LANES AND RESULT IN THE SPEED LIMITS
09:39:44 BEING LOWERED TO 35 MILES PER HOUR ALONG THE ENTIRE STRETCH
09:39:47 OF THE ROAD.
09:39:49 THE OTHER THING, THREE MID BLOCK CROSSINGS ARE ALREADY
09:39:54 PLANNED TO BE INSTALLED.
09:39:56 AND I WANTED TO SAY ON THE ISSUE OF SPEED ENFORCEMENT THAT
09:40:00 ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS I HAVE, 5% OF THE SPEEDING
09:40:04 TICKETS ISSUED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TOTAL ARE ISSUED ON
09:40:07 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
09:40:09 2600 OF THEM LAST YEAR.
09:40:12 IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.
09:40:14 AND I THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IN ADDITION TO
09:40:18 COMPLETING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY THAT
09:40:21 WE LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL SOLUTIONS.
09:40:23 I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ON JUNE 28th, WHEN WE
09:40:27 ALREADY HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER DEPARTMENT
09:40:30 COMING HERE TO DISCUSS THE OPEN STREETS CONCEPT RELATED TO
09:40:35 BAYSHORE, THAT WE COULD ASK THEM TO GIVE US A FULL REVIEW OF
09:40:39 EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT NOW, AND ALSO TO BE
09:40:42 WILLING TO TAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE
09:40:46 PUBLIC OR FROM THE MPOs SAFE STREET INITIATIVE, FROM THE
09:40:52 VISION ZERO INITIATIVE, TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT
09:40:54 CAN BE DONE.
09:40:55 BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS.
09:40:57 AND WE HAVE ALL SAID IT MANY, MANY TIMES AND IT'S GOT TO BE
09:41:00 SAID AGAIN.
09:41:02 HUMAN BEHAVIOR MATTERS.
09:41:04 SPEEDING IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
09:41:06 DISTRACTED DRIVING IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
09:41:09 TEXTING WHILE DRIVING IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
09:41:11 PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION ON THE ROAD.
09:41:14 AND THERE ABSOLUTELY MUST BE AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE TAKING
09:41:19 PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR BEHIND THE
09:41:23 WHEEL.
09:41:23 THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR THE CONDITIONS ON THE STREET.
09:41:27 IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL THINGS.
09:41:30 BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I SAW THE STROLLER SITTING IN THE
09:41:33 MIDDLE OF THE ROAD YESTERDAY, AND I HAVE BEEN BY THAT SPOT.
09:41:36 I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS FROM WHERE THAT TOOK PLACE. THIS WAS A
09:41:40 STRAIGHT SHOT.
09:41:42 THERE WAS NO CURVE.
09:41:43 THIS WAS NOT A PLACE THAT ANYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN ANY
09:41:47 DANGER OF NOT BEING SEEN.
09:41:49 THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF AN EXTREMELY RECKLESS SITUATION.
09:41:55 AND WE HAVE ALL GOT TO TAKE STOCK IN THE WAY WE BEHAVE
09:41:59 BEHIND THE WHEEL AND MAKE SURE WE PUT OUR THUMBS DOWN, THAT
09:42:02 WE PAY ATTENTION AND KEEP OUR EYE ON THE ROAD.
09:42:04 I DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STORMWATER AND
09:42:06 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO ADD TO THE AGENDA ITEM ON JUNE
09:42:09 28th A DISCUSSION OF WHAT'S BEING DONE ON BAYSHORE AND
09:42:14 WHAT IDEAS CAN BE PRESENTED.
09:42:18 I ALSO WANT CONFIRMATION FROM THEM.
09:42:20 I HAVE SEEN IT IN THE NEWSPAPER ALREADY, THAT THE SPEED
09:42:22 LIMIT IS BEING LOWERED TO 35 MILES PER HOUR IN OCTOBER OF
09:42:27 2018 AS SOON AS THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE LANE IS COMPLETE.
09:42:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
09:42:32 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
09:42:34 ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
09:42:37 SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
09:42:40 OPPOSED?
09:42:41 ALL RIGHT.
09:42:44 MR. COHEN, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, LET ME SAY THIS.
09:42:50 FIRST, LET ME SEND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE 23578LY THAT WAS
09:42:55 AFFECTED BY THIS TRAGEDY THAT EVENING.
09:42:57 BUT LAST NIGHT ALSO RECEIVED A CALL FROM A REPORTER ABOUT A
09:43:04 FATALITY THAT TOOK PLACE, AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WITHIN
09:43:10 A YEAR THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED.
09:43:12 AND LAST NIGHT TO GET THAT CALL, AND I HAD BEEN WORKING WITH
09:43:20 THE CITY ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE NORTH 40TH STREET WITH
09:43:26 THE CROSSWALK.
09:43:27 AND THIS IS TAKING PLACE AT THE RIVER PINE APARTMENT
09:43:30 COMPLEX.
09:43:31 MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS.
09:43:34 MOST OF THE POEM ARE HANDICAPPED, HAVE SOME TYPE OF
09:43:39 IMPAIRMENT.
09:43:40 SO EVEN THOUGH THE NEWS MEDIA GAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION
09:43:48 TO WHAT HAPPENED ON BAYSHORE, WE STILL HAVE IT ON NORTH 40TH
09:43:56 STREET AND FOR THIS TO HAPPEN A SECOND TIME WITHIN A YEAR IS
09:44:02 RIDICULOUS.
09:44:03 AND I AGREE WITH YOU -- I AGREE WITH THE SPEAKERS, SOMETHING
09:44:08 HAS TO BE DONE.
09:44:10 BECAUSE THIS HAS HAPPENED AT THESE CROSSWALKS.
09:44:14 AND I KNOW THE CITY IS WORKING ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF
09:44:21 TOWN.
09:44:24 BUT THERE COMES A TIME WHEN WE HAVE TO EXPEDITE THESE
09:44:31 IMPROVEMENTS AND CAN'T CONTINUE THIS GOVERNMENT MOVE FORWARD
09:44:35 IN SLOW MOTION.
09:44:38 WHERE THINGS TAKE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS, WHILE PEOPLE ARE
09:44:41 STILL DYING.
09:44:42 SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT.
09:44:45 >>HARRY COHEN: SHALL WE ADD 40th STREET TO THE STAFF
09:44:47 REPORT?
09:44:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, BASED ON THE REPORT I GOT, THEY ARE
09:44:52 SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
09:44:56 SO HOPEFULLY, IF IT'S NOT DONE IN TWO WEEKS, THEN I WILL
09:45:00 COME BACK AND ADD IT ONTO THE JUNE 28th MOTION, THE
09:45:06 RECOMMENDATION MADE THIS MORNING.
09:45:07 MRS. CAPIN.
09:45:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
09:45:09 I WANT TO BE CLEAR HERE.
09:45:10 AND AGAIN, THE CONDOLENCES TO BOTH.
09:45:16 WE GET TOO MANY REPORTS OF THAT ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
09:45:19 AND IT'S CARELESS DRIVERS.
09:45:24 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CITY DOING IT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
09:45:27 THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:45:29 WE ARE LEGISLATIVE.
09:45:31 WE CAN ASK FOR IT.
09:45:33 WE CANNOT DICTATE IT.
09:45:36 I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
09:45:38 WHEN YOU HEAR US SAY THE CITY IS WORKING ON IT, WE ARE
09:45:42 TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION WORKING ON IT.
09:45:46 AND THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PARTS OF GOVERNMENT.
09:45:49 BUT NONETHELESS, WE HAVE THE PULLEY PULPIT AND WE CAN PUSH
09:45:56 FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC.
09:45:57 SO THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE AND TALKING TO US.
09:46:00 THANK YOU.
09:46:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS MORNING BEFORE I CAME HERE WENT
09:46:05 DOWN TO BAYSHORE WHERE THE ACCIDENT TOOK PLACE AND I WALKED
09:46:09 ACROSS IT SEVERAL TIMES TO CALCULATE HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE
09:46:11 ME, CALCULATE -- WELL, LOOKING AT THE SPEED OF THE CARS.
09:46:15 YOU COULD SEE THOSE THAT WERE GOING THE SPEED LIMIT AND SO
09:46:18 MANY WERE GOING MUCH QUICKER.
09:46:20 50, 60 MILES PER HOUR.
09:46:22 I DIDN'T HAVE A RADAR GUN BUT THEY WERE PASSING EVERYBODY
09:46:24 ELSE SIGNIFICANTLY.
09:46:27 I WITNESSED SO MANY PEDESTRIANS THAT HAVE BEEN STRUCK IN THE
09:46:31 ROAD SINCE I HAVE BEEN ELECTED.
09:46:33 A WOMAN ON HOWARD AVENUE.
09:46:35 I WAS THERE BEFORE THE POLICE SHOWED UP.
09:46:37 I SAW THE AFTERMATH OF WHAT HAPPENED ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
09:46:41 SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT, I SAW A GENTLEMAN IN THE ROAD JUST AS
09:46:44 POLICE WERE COMING UP.
09:46:45 I WAS RIDE ALONG WITH THE POLICE ONE EVENING.
09:46:49 AND ANOTHER FATALITY AT HILLSBOROUGH NEAR LOIS.
09:46:54 THE ONE THAT I WITNESSED AND LUCKILY DIDN'T GET HURT ON PALM
09:46:57 AVENUE BEFORE THEY MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE THEY NARROWED
09:47:00 IT DOWN.
09:47:03 I WATCHED A YOUNG MAN CROSSING THE STREET GET HIT.
09:47:06 AND LUCKILY HE WAS UNHURT.
09:47:08 BUT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT BAYSHORE FOR A LONG TIME.
09:47:13 I REMEMBER WHEN THE WOMAN WAS STRUCK AND KILLED BACK IN 2004
09:47:17 AND THEN SAW THE 40 ON BAYSHORE THE BUTCHERS STICKERS THAT
09:47:22 PEOPLE WERE PUTTING UP.
09:47:23 NOW YOU HAVE THIS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOID.
09:47:25 THIS MORNING I TOOK PICTURES OF EACH SPAN OF THE ROAD NORTH
09:47:28 AND SOUTH TO SEE, A STRAIGHTAWAY FROM THE CURVE, CAN YOU NOT
09:47:34 SEE?
09:47:34 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SITUATION.
09:47:36 PEOPLE RACING ON THIS STREET.
09:47:37 BUT FOR US TO DO NOTHING IS UNACCEPTABLE.
09:47:40 AND AT LEAST WITH THE SPEED LIMIT BEING REDUCED AND
09:47:44 CROSSWALKS BEING PUT IN, WE HAVE TO DO MORE.
09:47:47 BAYSHORE IS A VERY POPULAR STREET.
09:47:49 I REMEMBER MY MOTHER ONE TIME TELLING ME, I AM GOING TO GO
09:47:53 DOWN TO BAYSHORE TO WALK, CRAZY THINKING ABOUT HER PARKING
09:47:58 SOMEWHERE AND CROSSING THE STREET, NOT WANTING ANYTHING TO
09:48:00 HAPPEN TO HER.
09:48:02 SO WE MAKE THESE REQUESTS TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:48:05 WE KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING.
09:48:07 AND I BELIEVE I COULD SPEAK -- WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT THIS TO
09:48:13 IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON BAYSHORE.
09:48:15 IT'S A GEM.
09:48:17 IT'S NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS THE LONGEST CONTINUOUS
09:48:21 SIDEWALK.
09:48:21 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA.
09:48:22 BUT TO HAVE THIS WHAT HAPPENED, SEEING THE PICTURE OF THE
09:48:25 STROLLER IN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, I AM TRYING NOT TO GET
09:48:29 EMOTIONAL AND CRY, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THE FAMILY IS
09:48:32 GOING THROUGH.
09:48:34 RIGHT NOW THE DEVASTATION.
09:48:35 AND THIS HAS TO BE AVOIDED.
09:48:37 WE CAN'T CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD AND DOING NOTHING.
09:48:40 SO I'M READY TO FIGHT FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
09:48:44 AND I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE, TOO.
09:48:47 BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
09:48:48 THANK YOU.
09:48:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
09:48:51 ANYONE ELSE?
09:48:53 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:48:53 >> METEZMAT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:48:59 FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, BLACK LIVES MATTER.
09:49:02 EVERYBODY HERE THIS MORNING IS EMOTIONAL.
09:49:04 I HAVE GOT LITTLE KIDS.
09:49:05 I HAVE GOT MINORS.
09:49:07 I HAVE GOT MAJORS.
09:49:08 EVERYBODY, WHEN A LIFE IS LOST.
09:49:16 BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, BLACK LIVES MATTER. THIS
09:49:19 SAME NONSENSE HAS GONE UP ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ON A DAILY
09:49:23 BASIS U.IT'S GONE ON ON FLORIDA AVENUE.
09:49:25 GOING ON ON 40TH STREET.
09:49:27 GOING ON ON FOWLER AVENUE.
09:49:30 DANGER ZONE.
09:49:31 THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD OR NO OTHER STREET
09:49:34 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:49:37 DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION COMES HERE TO DO IS GIVE THE
09:49:41 TRANSPORTATION MONEY FROM THIS CITY AND SEND IT TO ORLANDO.
09:49:45 THEY SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT A FANCY RAIL SYSTEM, THIS
09:49:49 KIND OF SYSTEM.
09:49:50 WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND I HAVE
09:49:52 BEEN TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THAT FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS AND ONE
09:49:57 OF THE MOST SPEAKER USE PROBLEMS DOWN THERE IS FLOODING AND
09:50:03 ODOR AND THE LADY TALK ABOUT THE LADY GETTING HIT YESTERDAY.
09:50:08 THE CITY GOT WHAT LOOKS LIKE A CROSSWALK, IT'S NOT A CITY
09:50:12 STREET.
09:50:12 THE CITY OF TAMPA IS AT FAULT AND THE FAMILY NEEDS TO KNOW
09:50:15 AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
09:50:16 AND ENTICING SOMEONE TO PUSH A STROLLER OFF THE ROAD WHERE
09:50:22 THERE'S NO CROSSWALK.
09:50:25 STRAIGHT NONSENSE.
09:50:26 AND UP THERE THIS MORNING PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONAL AND THIS.
09:50:28 THE SAME THING IS GOING ON ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, WHERE
09:50:33 PEOPLE ARE GETTING KILLED BY PEOPLE DRIVING RECKLESS AND
09:50:37 STUPID AND TEXTING AND DRUNK AND DRIVING AND YOU DON'T HOLD
09:50:42 ALCOHOL COMPANIES RESPONSIBLE, IT'S RECKLESS BEHAVIOR.
09:50:46 RECKLESS INDUSTRY.
09:50:48 HANDGUNS.
09:50:49 RECKLESS INDUSTRY.
09:50:51 RECKLESS CITY MANAGEMENT.
09:50:55 YOU HAVE GOT A GARBAGE MAYOR SITTING DOWNSTAIRS CALLING
09:50:58 BLACK WOMEN BITCHES, AND CALLING FOR THE HANGING, THE
09:51:01 LYNCHING OF BLACK PEOPLE.
09:51:02 RECKLESS LEADERSHIP.
09:51:07 IT'S RECKLESS LOADERSHIP.
09:51:09 AND NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION SITUATION IN THIS
09:51:12 COMMUNITY.
09:51:13 THEIR ONLY CONCERN IS HOW THEY CAN SEND THE MONEY OVER TO
09:51:16 ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
09:51:19 AND NOW WE ARE UP HERE THIS MORNING ACTING IGNORANT, STUPID.
09:51:25 THE MAYOR DOWNSTAIRS, PEOPLE GETTING RAN OVER ON BAYSHORE
09:51:28 BOULEVARD, THE MAYOR DOWNSTAIRS OVER AT THE PARK TALKING
09:51:33 SOME DAMN HOCKEY TEAM ON A RIGGED GAME.
09:51:39 ON A RIGGED GAME.
09:51:40 TOTALLY RIGGED.
09:51:42 THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE HANDLED IN THIS CITY.
09:51:45 REALISTICALLY.
09:51:47 NOT THIS CEREMONIAL NONSENSE YOU ALL DO WEEK AFTER WEEK.
09:51:56 DO SOME WORK.
09:51:57 [BELL SOUNDS]
09:51:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
09:52:12 COMMENT?
09:52:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I COULD.
09:52:16 FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHAT MR. COHEN HAD.
09:52:21 TO SAY PREVIOUSLY IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
09:52:22 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR SOME TIME.
09:52:24 THE 35 MILE-AN-HOUR SPEED LIMIT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
09:52:29 DISCUSSED CERTAIN TIMES AND GOT IT PUT IN PLACE.
09:52:33 SO WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT BAYSHORE IS SAFER.
09:52:37 IN ADDITION, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE
09:52:39 ADMINISTRATION ON OTHER THINGS CONCERNING COMPLETE STREETS.
09:52:43 WE NEED AGREEMENT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION IN ORDER TO DO
09:52:46 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED THIS MORNING.
09:52:48 AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT THE MAYOR IN ADDITION
09:52:51 TO COMING HERE WITH US, BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS GOING TO HAVE
09:52:54 TO ADMINISTER WHATEVER WE DECIDE, EITHER FROM THIS BODY, OR
09:52:59 FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:53:01 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, APPROXIMATE
09:53:04 WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TWO STREETLIGHTS ALONG BAYSHORE FOR THE
09:53:07 MOST PART.
09:53:08 THAT'S IT.
09:53:10 BEFORE YOU GET TO GANDY.
09:53:12 THE OTHER THING IS THAT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER,
09:53:15 BEHAVIOR IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
09:53:19 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT BE 40TH STREET, MR. REDDICK, THANK YOU
09:53:22 FOR MENTIONING THAT BECAUSE ONE DAY WE HAD TWO FATALITIES IN
09:53:24 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
09:53:26 IT ISN'T JUST BAYSHORE.
09:53:27 BAYSHORE IS THE MOST WELL KNOWN STREET THAT WE HAVE.
09:53:32 AS MR. COHEN SAID, IT IS WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF THE
09:53:35 SPEEDING -- NOT MOST OF THE SPEEDING, A LOT OF THE SPEEDING
09:53:38 IN CITY LIMITS BECAUSE IT IS A CONTINUOUS STREET.
09:53:41 WE HAVE HAD OFFICERS OUT THERE YESTERDAY, BEFORE THE
09:53:44 ACCIDENT.
09:53:47 THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO STOP SOME OF THE SPEEDING,
09:53:50 AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY, WHICH WAS
09:53:52 RACING, WOULD HAVE BEEN POLICE PRESENT, WE THINK THAT MIGHT
09:53:56 HAVE SLOWED THEM DOWN OR MAYBE STOPPED THEM FROM RACING.
09:53:59 BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE.
09:54:01 THE WAY THAT WE ENGINEER OUR STREETS, THE WAY WE MAKE IT
09:54:05 SAFER, THE WAY THAT OUR MPO AND SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS
09:54:07 THAT EVERYBODY WE DEAL WITH CONCERNING THESE ISSUES, YOU
09:54:10 HAVE GOT TO BE DILIGENT.
09:54:13 IT ISN'T ABOUT ONE TIME, IT ISN'T ABOUT ONE FATALITY, IT
09:54:16 ISN'T ABOUT ONE LIFE.
09:54:17 IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE DO EACH AND HE HAVE DAY.
09:54:19 WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS EVERY WEEK.
09:54:22 WE HAVE MEETINGS CONCERNING TRANSPORTATION ALL THE TIME.
09:54:26 WE NEED YOUR INVOLVEMENT, NOT JUST ONCE, BUT ALL THE TIME.
09:54:30 AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU DO.
09:54:33 BUT THIS -- I'M CAN IMPLORING YOU TO TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS.
09:54:38 THEY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR,
09:54:40 NOT ONLY OF WHAT WE DO ON COUNCIL, BUT WHAT WE DO IN THIS
09:54:44 ADMINISTRATION, BUT ALSO TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN AND EVERYONE
09:54:49 ELSE THAT WE KNOW NOT TO SPEED.
09:54:52 I KNOW THAT FOR ME WHEN I AM ON BAYSHORE, I SET MY CRUISE
09:54:56 CONTROL TO THE SPEED LIMIT.
09:54:57 I CAN GO FROM GANDY ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN WITHOUT
09:55:00 STOPPING, WITHOUT SPEEDING, WITHOUT GETTING TO A SITUATION
09:55:05 IN WHICH I AM GOING TO HURT SOMEONE.
09:55:07 AND I THINK WE LEARN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE GOOD CITIZENS WHEN
09:55:13 IT COMES TO DRIVING.
09:55:15 AS MR. COHEN SAID, TEXTING, AND SPEEDING.
09:55:18 WE DON'T LEARN THAT NOW, WHEN WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES IN ONE
09:55:24 DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE ARE GOING TO LEARN IT.
09:55:27 SO I IMPLORE ALL OF YOU.
09:55:28 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FIRST OF ALL.
09:55:30 IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BE HERE AND TO TALK TO
09:55:32 US.
09:55:33 BUT IN ADDITION YOU HAVE GOT TO GET YOUR NEIGHBORS INVOLVED.
09:55:35 YOU HAVE GOT TO GET EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S INVOLVED IN YOUR
09:55:37 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
09:55:38 YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE LISTENING TO YOU
09:55:42 BUT THAT THE MAYOR AND HIS STAFF -- AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S
09:55:46 A MEMBER OF HIS STAFF HERE RIGHT NOW.
09:55:48 SHE WOULD BE GLAD TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK
09:55:51 THAT'S THE REASON WHY SHE'S HERE.
09:55:52 HER NAME IS CHRISTINA BARKER.
09:55:54 SHE'S RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AUDIENCE HERE.
09:55:57 PLEASE TALK TO HER.
09:55:58 BECAUSE WE NEED THE MAYOR'S AGREEMENT IN ORDER FOR US TO GO
09:56:01 FORWARD TO DO SOME OF THE FIXES THAT YOU HAVE ASKED FOR.
09:56:04 THANK YOU.
09:56:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
09:56:08 ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
09:56:08 ALL RIGHT.
09:56:09 WE GO TO OUR WORKSHOPS.
09:56:12 ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:56:12 >> RON CHRISTALDI: I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE READY FOR ME TO
09:56:12 PRESENT. MY NAME IS RON CHRISTALDI. I'M ONE OF THE
09:56:28 COMMISSIONERS, SELECTED BY MY PEERS TO PRESENT HERE TODAY.
09:56:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, WE HAVE THE REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED
09:56:38 TO US.
09:56:40 AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS GET TO THE SEGMENT OF THIS
09:56:49 REPORT, AND I THINK THAT ONE DEALT WITH JUST SOME
09:56:53 HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES, AND OTHERS WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM
09:57:00 THE COMMITTEE, THAT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PUTTING OUT.
09:57:09 BEFORE WE GET INTO YOUR RECOMMENDATION, LET US DO THE
09:57:11 HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES, BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS DO NOT NEED TO GO
09:57:16 ON THE BALLOT.
09:57:18 THESE THINGS WE CAN APPROVE ON AND VOTE GOING FORWARD NOW.
09:57:23 SO THEN WE WILL GIVE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND -- AN
09:57:28 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THE
09:57:30 RECOMMENDATION.
09:57:30 BUT AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THOSE GENERAL
09:57:34 HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US.
09:57:36 >> PERFECT.
09:57:38 THANKS.
09:57:47 NOW, CITY ATTORNEY.
09:57:48 >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY.
09:57:53 THE HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES THAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH ARE THINGS
09:57:55 LIKE CHANGING THE GENDER.
09:57:57 WE HAD A LOT OF HE AND HIS, MAKING THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES.
09:58:01 A LOT OF THE OTHER HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES ARE DEALING WITH
09:58:05 PROVISIONS WHERE THE TRANSITION TO THE NEW CHARTER CAME INTO
09:58:08 PLACE.
09:58:08 AND THEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON A
09:58:11 CERTAIN DATE, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON A CERTAIN DATE.
09:58:14 OTHER ONES WE HAVE THAT ARE NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE THAT ARE
09:58:18 MENTIONED IN THERE.
09:58:18 IF YOU WANT ME TO BE GO THROUGH THOSE I CAN BUT THEY ARE
09:58:21 BASICALLY THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT
09:58:23 THAT ARE SIMPLY FIXES AND CLEAN-UPS AND NOT SUBSTANCE IN THE
09:58:28 SENSE OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE
09:58:31 YOU TODAY FROM THE COMMISSION ITSELF.
09:58:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: AND AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECT THAT NONE
09:58:39 OF THE HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES WILL BE ISSUES THAT NEED TO GO --
09:58:44 A MOTION BE MADE TO PUT ON THE BALLOT?
09:58:47 >>SAL TERRITO: SOME WILL AND SOME WILL NOT.
09:58:50 SOME OF THEM IN THERE RIGHT NOW OUT DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY
09:58:52 TO CHANGE.
09:58:52 SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT NAME CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:58:55 SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
09:58:57 YOU NORMALLY HANDLE THOSE BY GETTING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
09:59:00 COMING TO YOU AND THEN YOU MAKE A DECISION BY A SUPER
09:59:02 MAJORITY OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT DEPARTMENT NAME,
09:59:06 CHANGE THE FUNCTIONS.
09:59:07 BUT SOME WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED BY CHARTER AND THOSE ARE
09:59:10 GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO TRY TO PUT
09:59:12 TOGETHER BECAUSE AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE
09:59:16 ONE SUBJECT MATTER FOR AN ITEM THAT GOES ON THE AGENDA ON
09:59:20 THE VOTE.
09:59:20 WE HAVE TO HAVE NO MORE THAN 75 WORDS.
09:59:23 SO RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO KNOW FROM WHAT -- FROM YOU WHAT IT
09:59:27 IS YOU WANT TO DO.
09:59:28 THERE SOME THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED.
09:59:30 THERE ARE A FEW THAT DON'T NEED TO BE CHANGED BY THE CHARTER
09:59:32 AND WE ARE GETTING A LIST OF THOSE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
09:59:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK COUNCIL, FOR THE HOUSEKEEPING
09:59:38 ISSUES, DO YOU WANT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO -- DO WE HAVE ANY
09:59:46 CONCERNS?
09:59:46 WE HAVE A REPORT.
09:59:47 IS THERE ANYTHING TO BE CHANGED?
09:59:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THEM, I
09:59:53 THINK WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO TO REFERENDA IS THE
09:59:58 DISCRIMINATION, 10.03, CAN WE CHANGE THAT WITHOUT GOING TO
10:00:04 REFERENDUM?
10:00:05 >>SAL TERRITO: NO, YOU CAN'T.
10:00:06 YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPTION WITH THAT AS WELL.
10:00:08 YOU HAVE THOSE PROVISIONS IN YOUR CHARTER.
10:00:10 YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
10:00:11 YOU CAN PUT THOSE NEW ONES IN THE CHARTER AS WELL, OR YOU
10:00:14 COULD ADOPT IT BY ORDINANCE.
10:00:15 THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE
10:00:17 THEY PREFER HAVING THEM IN THE CHARTER, AND THAT WAY THEY
10:00:21 COULD NOT BE CHANGED ARBITRARILY.
10:00:23 SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THOSE WHERE THEY CANNOT BE CHANGED,
10:00:26 THEY HAVE TO GO IN THE CHARTER.
10:00:27 OTHERWISE YOU CAN DO AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL ADDRESS THOSE.
10:00:30 SOME OF THOSE ARE ALREADY REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE.
10:00:33 BUT --
10:00:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: BY FEDERAL LAW.
10:00:36 >>SAL TERRITO: YES.
10:00:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I DON'T MIND IF THE CITY ATTORNEY
10:00:41 GOES THROUGH THESE HOUSEKEEPING ONES SO WE CAN GET THAT OUT
10:00:44 OF THE WAY AND THEN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT'S
10:00:46 GOING TO GO TO REFERENDUM.
10:00:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: IN THAT CASE, ANYONE ELSE HAS A COMMENT?
10:00:50 ALL RIGHT.
10:00:51 LET'S DO THAT.
10:00:52 AND THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE REFERENDUM FROM THE
10:00:57 COMMISSION TO MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
10:00:59 >>SAL TERRITO: I COULD GO THROUGH THESE THINGS.
10:01:04 AND IT'S NOT EASY TO PICK OUT WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO
10:01:07 REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, WHICH ONES YOU CAN DO.
10:01:09 SOME OF THEM ARE ADDING LANGUAGE HERE.
10:01:11 SO LET ME JUST GO THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY.
10:01:13 I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE SECTIONS VERY QUICKLY.
10:01:15 AND I WILL TRY TO POINT OUT WHICH ONES I THINK YOU HAVE THE
10:01:18 AUTHORITY TO CHANGE, WHETHER THEY ARE IN THE CHARTER OR NOT,
10:01:21 OR WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS AS WELL.
10:01:24 IT MIGHT BE QUICKER FOR ME TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
10:01:26 YOU DO HAVE THE SUMMARY THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE
10:01:28 FACILITATOR IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT DOCUMENT.
10:01:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I SAW THE SUMMARY BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:01:33 VERY HELPFUL JUST TO LIST THE ONES THAT ARE JUST CLEAN-UP,
10:01:42 AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT AND SOME MAY OR MAY
10:01:45 NOT?
10:01:46 OKAY.
10:01:47 THAT'S THE CHOICE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING
10:01:49 ON HERE.
10:01:50 THANK YOU.
10:01:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: AS YOU GO THROUGH THEM, EACH ITEM, DO WE
10:01:57 NEED TO VOTE AT THIS TIME, OR ARE WE GOING TO --
10:02:01 >>SAL TERRITO: MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT YOU HEAR WHAT
10:02:03 THE CHANGES ARE AND TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONG YOURSELVES.
10:02:06 SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE EASY.
10:02:07 AGENDA CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE AN EASY ONE TO MAKE A
10:02:10 DECISION ON.
10:02:10 SOME WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT.
10:02:12 I AM NOT TRYING TO PREEMPT WHAT THE COMMISSION IS SAYING.
10:02:14 BY GOING THROUGH THESE ITEMS THE WAY I AM GOING TO GO
10:02:17 THROUGH THEM RIGHT NOW, YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS WHICH I THINK
10:02:19 I PREFER HAVING THEM ANSWER FOR YOU WHY THOSE CHANGES WERE
10:02:23 SUGGESTED RATHER THAN ME TELLING YOU WHY THEY WERE
10:02:26 SUGGESTED.
10:02:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:02:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEN WHY ISN'T THE CHAIR BRINGING IT UP AND
10:02:33 DOING THIS?
10:02:33 IF YOU PREFER THAT THEY ANSWER IT, THEN WHAT'S GOING ON?
10:02:39 >>SAL TERRITO: WELL, THE CHAIRMAN ASKED ME TO COME UP
10:02:41 FIRST.
10:02:41 THEY WANTED TO COME UP --
10:02:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: AND THE REASON I DID, I DIDN'T KNOW -- I
10:02:48 THOUGHT THE HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE WAS GOING TO BE SMOOTH
10:02:51 SAILING TYPE.
10:02:53 I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS DIFFICULT YES, MAYBE,
10:02:57 OR NO.
10:02:58 IN THAT CASE, THE CHAIR CAN COME AND JUST MAKE THEIR
10:03:01 RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
10:03:03 EITHER ON THE HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES.
10:03:05 BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE --
10:03:07 >>SAL TERRITO: BASICALLY, EITHER GO THROUGH THE SUBSTANCE
10:03:11 OF ITEMS, AND IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE HIM, TO COME UP
10:03:15 AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AND THEN WE CAN SORT
10:03:17 OUT WHICH ONES YOU HAVE TO OR NOT HAVE TO DO.
10:03:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT THEN.
10:03:21 OKAY.
10:03:23 CHAIR.
10:03:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:03:32 THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT ARE HERE TODAY, COULD YOU
10:03:35 RAISE YOUR HAND?
10:03:39 HOW MANY ARE HERE?
10:03:41 THANK YOU.
10:03:43 THANK YOU.
10:03:43 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:03:47 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
10:03:49 JUST BY WAY OF A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, AS YOU ALL KNOW,
10:03:52 PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION THE 2017-588 CITY COUNCIL CREATED
10:03:57 THIS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WITH THE STATED OBJECTIVE TO
10:04:01 REVIEW THE TAMPA HOME RULE CHARTER OF 1975 AND PROPOSE FOR
10:04:09 PLACEMENT ON THE BALLOT ON THE NOVEMBER 6, 2018.
10:04:13 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WERE BILL
10:04:17 CARLSON, MYSELF, RICK FUEYO, ORLANDO GUDES, AMANDA HURTAK,
10:04:23 MORRIS MASSEY, PAVONNE SCOTT, MICHAEL STEVENS, ANDREA
10:04:27 ZELMAN, AND JOE CITRO WAS AN ALTERNATE WHO DIDN'T GET ON TO
10:04:36 PARTICIPATE ACTIVELY BECAUSE THE OTHER NINE MEMBERS
10:04:39 COMPLETED THEIR SERVICE.
10:04:40 I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:04:45 I ALSO WANTED TO THANK OUR CITY ATTORNEY, SAL AND CITY
10:04:48 COUNCIL ATTORNEY MARTIN SELBY FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND
10:04:53 DILIGENCE IN KEEPING US STRAIGHT AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND
10:04:57 THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT OF WE DID.
10:05:04 CITY STAFF HELPING, FACILITATOR WAS INDISPENSABLE.
10:05:12 I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR HAVING A
10:05:15 PRESENCE AT EACH AND EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAD.
10:05:17 WE MET 13 TIMES, A TOTAL OF 13 TIMES BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND A
10:05:22 FEW WEEKS AGO.
10:05:23 TWO OF THOSE WERE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS THAT WERE WIDELY
10:05:27 ADVERTISED, AND THAT WE DID GET A GOD AMOUNT OF PUBLIC
10:05:31 PARTICIPATION, PARTICULARLY AT THE SECOND OF THOSE.
10:05:33 SO IF IT PLEASES COUNCIL, WHAT I WAS PREPARED TO DO TODAY,
10:05:38 AND I AM READY TO PROCEED ANYWAY THAT COUNCIL SEES
10:05:40 APPROPRIATE, THERE WERE SEVERAL DOCUMENT THAT MR. TERRITO
10:05:43 PROVIDED TO COUNCIL INCLUDING A SUMMARY BUT ALSO A RED-LINE
10:05:47 DOCUMENT THAT IS THE CURRENT CHARTER WITH AMENDMENTS SHOWN
10:05:50 IN RED LINE, AND I WAS PREPARED TO STEP THROUGH THE CHANGE
10:05:54 BY CHANGE, SECTION BY SECTION.
10:05:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THE HOUSEKEEPING
10:06:01 ISSUES THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING.
10:06:07 THEN GET INTO THE BALLOT ISSUES.
10:06:09 >> RON CHRISTALDI: OKAY.
10:06:12 LET ME APPROACH IT THIS WAY.
10:06:14 I AM GOING TO DESCRIBE GENERALLY THE HOUSEKEEPING AND THEN
10:06:16 POINT OUT THE SECTIONS THAT THEY APPEAR IN, IN THE RED LINE
10:06:19 VERSION.
10:06:20 SO THE HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES FALL INTO SEVERAL CATEGORIES.
10:06:23 FIRST, IN 1975 CHARTER THERE WERE A NUMBER OF
10:06:27 GENDER-SPECIFIC REFERENCES, HIM OR HER, AND WE ATTEMPTED TO
10:06:32 HARMONIZE THOSE AND MAKE THEM GENDER NEUTRAL THROUGHOUT THE
10:06:36 DOCUMENT.
10:06:37 I WILL GO THROUGH TO SPECIFIC PROVISIONS.
10:06:40 SECOND, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE REFERENCES TO
10:06:43 COUNCIL OR REFERENCES TO DEPARTMENTS WERE NOT CONSISTENTLY
10:06:46 USED, SO WE, FOR INSTANCE, ADDED THE WORD CITY BEFORE CITY
10:06:50 COUNCIL, SO THAT THE WORDS WERE CONSISTENT, AND THERE WASN'T
10:06:54 AN INDICATION THAT IT MEANT SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY IN ONE
10:06:56 SECTION AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER.
10:06:58 LIKEWISE, THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW, WHAT LEVEL OF VOTE WAS
10:07:02 NECESSARY.
10:07:04 SOMETIMES IT SAYS MAJORITY.
10:07:05 SOMETIMES IT SAYS A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL.
10:07:07 SOMETIMES IT SAID THE SPECIFIC NUMBER THAT WAS NEEDED.
10:07:11 WE ATTEMPTED TO HARMONIZE THOSE SO THERE WASN'T AN
10:07:14 IMPLICATION THAT THERE WAS A DIFFERENT ^ INTENT AND
10:07:18 DIFFERENT SECTIONS BY USING DIFFERENT VERBIAGE.
10:07:21 SO IF I COULD POINT OUT, GO THROUGH AND POINT OUT WHERE
10:07:25 THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES OCCUR.
10:07:27 FOR INSTANCE, IN SECTION 2.502, THERE'S SOME GENDER NEUTRAL
10:07:32 REFERENCES AND SOME CLARIFICATIONS TO HOW COUNCIL IS
10:07:37 REFERRED TO.
10:07:40 THOSE CHANGES ALSO APPEAR IN 2.03.
10:07:42 THERE ARE SOME SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES NF2 .03 THAT WE WILL GET
10:07:46 BACK TO.
10:07:51 CHANGES ALSO APPEAR IN 2.07, 2.08, 2.09.
10:08:00 I AM HAPPY TO SLOW DOWN BUT AGAIN THESE ARE SORT OF
10:08:03 REPETITIVE.
10:08:03 2.10.
10:08:05 2.13.
10:08:08 2.14.
10:08:12 3.01 DOES CONTAIN SOME SUB TAN STIFF CHANGES BUT THERE ARE
10:08:16 ALSO A FEW HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES THERE.
10:08:19 4.01, SPECIFIC REFERENCE, HAS SO HOUSEKEEPING IN IT.
10:08:31 4.02.
10:08:34 5.1-A.
10:08:41 5 .1-B WHICH IS A CLARIFICATION, TITLE OF THE DIRECTOR OF
10:08:49 FINANCE, AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:08:53 5.01-C CLARIFIES THE LANGUAGE RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT
10:09:02 NECESSARY.
10:09:03 THERE'S SOME HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES THAT RELATED TO THE NAMES
10:09:07 OF DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME.
10:09:09 SO 5.01-F AND 5.01-G FALL IN THAT CATEGORY.
10:09:19 5.01-H IS ANOTHER HOUSEKEEPING CHANGE.
10:09:28 6.01 CLARIFIES AGAIN THAT THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE IS ALSO
10:09:33 KNOWN AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:09:38 I'LL MENTION TOO THAT THERE WERE SOME PROVISIONS THAT WERE
10:09:41 OBSOLETE OR NO LONGER RELEVANT.
10:09:44 FOR INSTANCE, AND I WILL POINT THOSE OUT AS WE GO FORWARD.
10:09:48 THEY TENDED TO BE TOWARD THE LATTER HALF OF THE CHARTER, IN
10:09:51 6.02, FOR INSTANCE THERE, WAS SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THE 1979
10:09:56 ELECTION THAT OBVIOUSLY IS PASSED AND HISTORIC AND NO LONGER
10:10:03 SIGNIFICANT ANYMORE.
10:10:03 THERE ARE SOME HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES IN 6.03.
10:10:06 THERE ARE ALSO SOME SUB TAN STIFF CHANGES THAT WILL CIRCLE
10:10:09 BACK TO THE STAFF IN THAT SECTION.
10:10:15 IN 6.06, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES RELATIVE TO THE DESCRIPTION
10:10:21 OF THE VOTE OF COUNCIL THAT'S NECESSARY AGAIN NOT CHANGING
10:10:24 IT SUBSTANTIVELY BUT CLARIFYING WHAT IS MEANT BY THE
10:10:30 MAJORITY AND USING CONSISTENT LANGUAGE.
10:10:32 6.07 AND 6.08 ARE HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES.
10:10:38 6.07 WAS REMOVED BECAUSE IT IS REDUNDANT.
10:10:42 AND 6.08 WAS COMBINED WITH ARTICLE 5, SECTION 5.01.
10:10:50 THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER WAS DEALT WITH AND THE COMMISSION
10:10:54 FOUND IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
10:11:01 7.02 HAS SOME HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES.
10:11:23 AS DOES 7.11 AND 8.01.
10:11:43 SECTION 9.02 AND 9.03 ARE SUGGESTED TO BE REMOVED, AS
10:11:52 OBSOLETE.
10:11:53 AND SECTION 10.02.
10:11:55 SUGGESTED TO BE REMOVED.
10:12:02 SECTION 10.05 IS SUGGESTED TO BE REMOVED AS OBSOLETE.
10:12:08 AND SECTION 10.06 HAS SOME REFERENCE TO EFFECTIVE DATE OF
10:12:14 JULY 1, 1976, WHICH IS NO LONGER RELEVANT, SUGGESTED TO BE
10:12:18 REMOVED.
10:12:25 SECTION 11.01 HAD. SOME MORE MODERN LANGUAGE CHANGES THAT
10:12:32 ARE HOUSEKEEPING, AS DOES 11.02.
10:12:37 11.03 WAS OBSOLETE AS WAS 11.04, 11.05, 11.06.
10:12:48 AND I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ARE THE HOUSEKEEPING
10:12:50 CHANGES.
10:12:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:12:54 ALL RIGHT.
10:13:01 COUNCIL, THOSE CHANGES THAT THEY HAVE LISTED AS NO LONGER
10:13:06 NEEDED, OBSOLETE, DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT?
10:13:11 >>HARRY COHEN: WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THESE
10:13:17 THINGS?
10:13:17 WOULD IT BE HELPFUL?
10:13:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
10:13:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXCEPT MAY I MAKE A STATEMENT?
10:13:23 6.01, THERE'S HOUSEKEEPING BUT THERE'S ALSO A STATEMENT AT
10:13:28 THE BOTTOM THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
10:13:30 >>HARRY COHEN: ME TOO BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:13:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT CLEARING
10:13:38 THAT.
10:13:38 >>HARRY COHEN: I CAN SEE THAT AS SUBSTANTIVE.
10:13:43 WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE OF THAT WE APPROVE THE HOUSE CAN
10:13:46 KEEPING ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AS MINISTERIAL ITEMS.
10:13:49 >> SECOND.
10:13:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:13:52 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:13:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
10:13:57 I APOLOGIZE.
10:13:57 BUT PERHAPS IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE -- I KNOW IT MIGHT BE
10:14:01 EASIER TO DO IT THIS WAY, BUT TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
10:14:04 THOSE THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION.
10:14:06 YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE MOTION BUT NORMALLY YOU TAKE
10:14:09 THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN MAKE YOUR MOTIONS.
10:14:12 BUT IF IT'S EASIER FOR COUNCIL TO WORK THIS WAY IT'S YOUR
10:14:14 CALL.
10:14:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYBODY SITTING OUT THERE WILL CHIME IN,
10:14:20 UNLESS THEY WANT TO COMMENT.
10:14:22 ALL RIGHT.
10:14:23 BEFORE WE VOTE, DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION?
10:14:28 ALL RIGHT.
10:14:29 WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:14:30 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:14:31 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
10:14:33 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:14:35 OPPOSED?
10:14:36 ALL RIGHT.
10:14:39 SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS.
10:14:42 NOW WE CAN GO BACK TO MRS. CAPIN AND MR. COHEN TO HAVE
10:14:46 DISCUSSION ABOUT 6.01.
10:14:51 OKAY.
10:14:53 SO LET'S GO TO 6.01.
10:14:56 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
10:15:01 >> I THINK THE SECTION YOU ARE REFERRING TO IN 6.01 IS THE
10:15:08 STATEMENT THAT READS -- AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS
10:15:11 BUT I THINK YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT THE STATEMENT THAT READS
10:15:13 THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS MAY BE
10:15:16 WAIVED BY A VOTE OF NO FEWER THAN FIVE MEMBERS OF CITY
10:15:19 COUNCIL FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO ONE YEAR.
10:15:21 IS THAT THE SECTION THAT YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT?
10:15:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:15:25 BUT I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION AS TO THIS WAS ONE OF THE NIGHTS
10:15:31 I WAS HERE THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED, AND I WANT TO HEAR IF
10:15:39 ANYONE HERE WAS ON, FROM THE COMMISSION, THAT HAD. AN
10:15:45 OPPOSITE VIEW OF THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
10:15:50 >> RON CHRISTALDI: SURE.
10:15:53 I CAN MAYBE SET THE TIME THE STAGE.
10:15:55 AND IF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO COME AND SPEAK --
10:15:59 >> I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ARGUMENTS ON THAT.
10:16:01 >> RON CHRISTALDI: THANK YOU. WHAT WE RESOLVED ON HERE, AND
10:16:03 TO TO BE CLEAR ON OUR PROCESS, I KNOW THIS WAS INDICATED IN
10:16:07 THE REPORT.
10:16:07 OF OUR NINE MEMBERS, WE NEEDED AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF SIX
10:16:11 MEMBERS TO CARRY ANY PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
10:16:13 AND TO BE CLEAR, THE RED LINE IN THE REPORT THAT IS IN FRONT
10:16:17 OF YOU PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY ALL MEMBERS THAT WERE -- I
10:16:21 BELIEVE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THERE WERE TWO MEMBERS NOT
10:16:24 IN ATTENDANCE AT THE FINAL MEETING.
10:16:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DO REMEMBER THAT VOTE ON THAT BEING
10:16:28 UNANIMOUS.
10:16:28 >> SO ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, WHERE WE ENDED UP, AND THEN
10:16:32 I WILL SAY MY PERMANENT VIEWS --
10:16:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S THE VOTE ON THE ONE YEAR.
10:16:36 I WANT TO KNOW THE VOTE ON THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
10:16:38 >> RON CHRISTALDI: YES.
10:16:39 THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND I WANTED TO
10:16:42 EXPLAIN WHAT WE INTENDED BY THIS.
10:16:44 AND I WILL GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL VIEW AND THEN WE CAN LET ANY
10:16:47 OF THE ON THE COMMISSIONERS SPEAK.
10:16:49 I BELIEVE WHERE WE ENDED UP, THE ISSUE WAS THE RESIDENTS
10:16:54 DENSE I REQUIREMENT FOR DEPARTMENTS, HIGH PRESSURE A VERY
10:16:57 ROBUST DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR
10:16:59 NONELECTED OFFICIALS.
10:17:00 I THINK THERE WERE SOME POINTS OF VOW THAT IF THE POOL OF
10:17:07 ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS MIGHT BE BROUGHT INTO THIS, IF PEOPLE
10:17:10 WHO LIVE, FOR INSTANCE, IN BRANDON, OR OTHERWISE OUTSIDE OF
10:17:13 THE CITY LIMITS, COULD WORK IN THOSE DEPARTMENT POSITIONS.
10:17:19 THERE WERE OTHER VIEWS THAT WE SHOULD -- THOSE ARE IMPORTANT
10:17:23 DECISIONS AND THAT INDIVIDUALS NEEDED TO LIVE IN AND
10:17:26 UNDERSTAND THE CITY IN ORDER TO SERVE IN THOSE POSITIONS.
10:17:29 IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT, THAT
10:17:33 THERE AS HAPPENED IN THE RECENT PAST, SOME PEOPLE WHO SERVE
10:17:37 IN THOSE POSITIONS WHO DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS,
10:17:40 AND THEIR ENTITLE IS INTERIM, THEY ARE NOT THE LONG-TERM
10:17:44 DIRECTOR.
10:17:44 SO THERE WAS A SENTIMENT, I BELIEVE, THAT THAT COULD BE
10:17:47 PERMITTED AS LONG AS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT BY FIVE-MEMBER
10:17:53 VOTE AND THAT THAT WAS REVISITED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THAT I
10:17:57 THINK THE SENTIMENT WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT PERMIT
10:18:00 ADMINISTRATION TO PUT IN PERPETUITY TO BESTOW A FUTURE TITLE
10:18:06 ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND OTHERWISE CIRCUMVENT THE RESIDENCY
10:18:10 REQUIREMENT.
10:18:10 SO THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP HERE.
10:18:14 I WILL SHARE MY PERSONAL VIEW WHICH IS THAT WE SHOULD CAST A
10:18:18 WIDER NET AND BE ABLE TO DRAW PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY,
10:18:21 THAT IN TODAY'S DAY OF MOBILITY, ALTHOUGH I VERY MUCH
10:18:24 SUPPORT AND UNDERSTOOD THAT THE MAYOR AND THE MEMBERS OF
10:18:27 COUNCIL SHOULD LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, YOUR COUNSEL,
10:18:35 WHO DID A FANTASTIC JOB, DOESN'T LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS
10:18:38 AND YET DOES A FANTASTIC JOB AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT
10:18:42 TYPE OF TALENT.
10:18:42 THIS IS WHERE WE ENDED UP AND I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR
10:18:46 POSITION, COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT
10:18:49 VIEWS, AND THOSE I THINK WERE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT VIEWS.
10:18:51 I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES AND ANYBODY ELSE.
10:18:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
10:18:57 >>HARRY COHEN: I WANT TO ASK ONE QUESTION.
10:18:59 I AM LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE.
10:19:00 THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS OF ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS MAY BE
10:19:03 WAIVED BY A VOTE OF NO FEWER THAN FIVE MEMBERS OF THE
10:19:05 COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO ONE YEAR.
10:19:09 YOU MADE IT SOUND AS THOUGH IT COULD BE REVISITED ON AN
10:19:12 ANNUAL BASIS.
10:19:13 I WAS QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN
10:19:16 MEANT THAT IT COULD ONLY BE DONE ONCE, AND AFTER A YEAR THEY
10:19:19 EITHER HAD. TO MOVE IN OR NOT, OR WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD
10:19:23 BE DONE EVERY YEAR OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
10:19:27 IT SEEMS TO ME, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHICH IT IS, FROM THE
10:19:31 LANGUAGE.
10:19:32 WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR.
10:19:36 CAN IT BE REVISITED ANNUALLY, OR CAN IT ONLY BE DONE ONCE?
10:19:40 OR CAN IT ONLY BE DONE TWICE?
10:19:43 WHAT'S THE LIMIT?
10:19:43 >> SURE.
10:19:44 AS I READ IT, AND CERTAINLY CLARIFYING LANGUAGE MIGHT BE
10:19:49 IMPORTANT HERE TO MAKE SURE WHAT COUNCIL PROPOSES TO THE
10:19:52 ELECTORATE IS CLEAR.
10:19:54 AS I READ IT, IT WOULD PERMIT, IT WOULD EMPOWER CITY COUNCIL
10:19:58 TO GRANT THAT WAIVER FOR A YEAR, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL COULD
10:20:02 GRANT ANOTHER WAIVER FOR A YEAR AGAIN.
10:20:04 IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE POWER OF CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION.
10:20:07 I THINK THE IDEA HERE, IF THERE WAS GOOD CAUSE, AND THE
10:20:10 ADMINISTRATION COUNCIL BY A MEMBER OF FIVE-PERSON VOTE
10:20:14 AGREED TO IT, THEN CERTAINLY THAT FLEXIBILITY WAS WARRANTED.
10:20:18 BUT NOT JUST TO HAVE IT FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
10:20:20 >>HARRY COHEN: AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, IF A PERSON WERE
10:20:25 IN THAT POSITION, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IF COME UP GRANTED THE
10:20:28 WAIVER THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE AN INTERIM TITLE IN FRONT OF
10:20:30 THEIR TITLE.
10:20:31 THEY HAVE BEEN GRANTED THE WAIVER.
10:20:32 THEY SHOULD BE FULL DIRECTOR.
10:20:35 FOR THAT-YEAR PERIOD.
10:20:37 AND I THINK WE MAY NEED TO CLARIFY OF THAT IF WE MOVE IN
10:20:41 THIS DIRECTION.
10:20:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I AGREE.
10:20:46 SO THE WAY YOU READ IT, IT CAN BE REVISITED ANNUALLY.
10:20:51 EIGHT YEARS?
10:20:52 >> THE WAIVER WAS AFTER THE ONE-YEAR PERIOD AND THEN CITY
10:20:58 COUNCIL COULD TAKE UP THE ISSUE AGAIN.
10:21:00 IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO.
10:21:02 OTHERWISE THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO SERVE IN THE
10:21:05 CAPACITY OF DEPARTMENT HEAD.
10:21:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: UNLESS WE REVISIT IT.
10:21:11 >> CORRECT.
10:21:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OR THEY BECOME A RESIDENT.
10:21:14 >> CORRECT.
10:21:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE
10:21:20 SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
10:21:22 AND HERE IS WHY.
10:21:25 THE MAYOR PICKS DEPARTMENT HEADS, NOT THE COUNCIL.
10:21:29 AND WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION RECENTLY WHERE THE MAYOR PUT
10:21:34 AN INTERIM TITLE ON IT.
10:21:36 AND ALLOWED IT TO GO ON FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
10:21:40 AND THEY HAD A RESIDENCY ISSUE.
10:21:48 THE PROBLEM I HAVE -- AND I KNOW WHAT THE MAYOR IS PROBABLY
10:21:52 GOING TO SAY -- IT'S HIS DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY AS MAYOR TO
10:21:58 HIRE HIS DEPARTMENT HEADS, PUT THEM IN WHAT PROTOCOL HE
10:22:02 WANTS TO PUT THEM IN, AND COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ANY SAY SO.
10:22:05 AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONFLICT.
10:22:08 I COULD SEE -- WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A MAYOR WITH THE TYPE
10:22:14 ATTITUDE WE GOT NOW.
10:22:15 BUT I CAN SEE BASED ON THE CURRENT SITUATION WE ARE IN,
10:22:24 BECAUSE WE DON'T HIRE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE ARE GOING TO
10:22:31 RUN -- FUTURE COUNCIL IS GOING TO RUN INTO THE SHALL YOU,
10:22:39 AND THE SEPARATION OF POWER.
10:22:42 AND I THINK WE ARE BASICALLY SAYING TO THE MAYOR THAT WE ARE
10:22:49 GOING TO BASICALLY VETO YOU, OVERRULE YOU AT A CERTAIN TIME,
10:22:56 IN ONE YEAR, IF YOU PUT A PERSON IN AN INTERIM POSITION, AND
10:23:00 THAT WE HAVE GOT THE POWER TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, WE CAN
10:23:10 PUT IN A RULE FOR THAT PERSON WHO LIVES IN ST. PETE OR
10:23:15 WHEREVER THEY WANT TO LIVE.
10:23:16 MR. MIRANDA.
10:23:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:23:18 I UNDERSTAND, I THINK, WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:23:21 BUT LET ME PUT IT ANOTHER WAY.
10:23:24 I HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIRE AN AIDE.
10:23:27 I DON'T CARE IF SHE LIVES IN ALABAMA OR HE LIVES IN GEORGIA.
10:23:32 THE ADMINISTRATOR, THE MAYOR, DOESN'T HAVE THAT RIGHT.
10:23:34 AM I CORRECT?
10:23:37 >> FOR DEPARTMENT HEAD.
10:23:38 YES, SIR.
10:23:39 YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:23:41 MIRANDA NOW LET'S SAY I AM LOOKING TO AVOID CONFLICT IN THE
10:23:43 FUTURE.
10:23:44 I HAVE GOT TO GO IN THE FUTURE.
10:23:45 THIS DOCUMENT DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PAST.
10:23:48 IT'S ONLY FOR THE FUTURE.
10:23:49 AM I CORRECT, SIR?
10:23:50 >> IT IS.
10:23:51 ABSOLUTELY.
10:23:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THEN LET'S TAKE AN AREA OF STUDY AND
10:23:56 SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS GOOD, AND THIS IS ACCEPTED.
10:23:59 HOWEVER, WE HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THE MAYOR.
10:24:03 WHOEVER IS HERE, WE MEANING SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:24:09 SO NOW WE CAN'T GET TO THAT PERSON, WHOEVER HE OR SHE IS
10:24:13 SITTING IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
10:24:15 SO WHO ARE WE GOING TO GO AFTER?
10:24:17 THAT PERSON WHO HAS THAT YEAR DEAL UNDER FIVE VOTES.
10:24:21 HE LOSES ONE VOTE, THAT PERSON IS OUT.
10:24:26 AND I DON'T THINK IT FAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS, IN MY OPINION,
10:24:30 THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENCE, I MEANING THE FUTURE,
10:24:34 WHOEVER SITS IN THIS ROW OF 7, IN MY OPINION IT WOULD BE A
10:24:42 CONFLICT AND SOMEWHAT OF A MELTDOWN, BECAUSE OF
10:24:46 PERSONALITIES THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE
10:24:49 CITY.
10:24:50 SO MY FEELING PERSONALLY, LET THE MAYOR HAVE WHOEVER HE OR
10:24:55 SHE WANTS.
10:24:55 I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY LIVE AS LONG AS THEY DO COME TO
10:24:58 WORK.
10:25:00 OUR CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:25:02 SOME MAY OR MAY NOT LIVE IN THE CITY IN THE PAST OR IF
10:25:06 FUTURE.
10:25:06 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT I.DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
10:25:08 DO YOU HIRE ATTORNEYS THAT ONLY LIVE IN THE CITY?
10:25:11 NO.
10:25:12 DOES MacDILL SAY YOU CAN'T COME TO WORK AT MacDILL
10:25:16 YOU CAN'T BE AN AIRMAN BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF
10:25:18 TAMPA?
10:25:19 NO.
10:25:21 DO ANY PEOPLE, TAMPA THEATRE OR STRAZ SAY YOU CAN'T COME
10:25:24 HERE UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE CITY?
10:25:26 YOU CANNOT BE THINKING OF A LITTLE AREA, OUR 60 MILES OR
10:25:34 WHATEVER SQUARE NILES IT IS.
10:25:35 YOU HAVE GOT THINGS MUCH LARGER THAN THAT.
10:25:37 >> AND I THINK THAT UNDERSCORES THE FIRST FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE
10:25:40 FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT
10:25:44 FOR NONELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 1975 IS
10:25:47 STILL APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
10:25:49 THE MECHANISM HERE WAS BECAUSE OUR COMMISSION COULDN'T REACH
10:25:53 CONSENSUS TO ELIMINATE THAT.
10:25:55 SO WE RESOLVED ON SOME MECHANISM TO HELP IMPLEMENT A
10:26:00 CIRCUMSTANCE THAT HASN'T BEEN VISITED IN THE PAST AND IN THE
10:26:04 FUTURE BUT I THINK IT'S A THRESHOLD QUESTION.
10:26:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE
10:26:09 EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.
10:26:12 ALL OF YOU.
10:26:13 BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, SOME INDIVIDUALS, FOR WHATEVER
10:26:16 REASON, MAYBE NO REASON AT ALL, MAYBE TO GET SOMEONE THEY
10:26:23 WANT AND THEY DON'T PICK THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND I HATE TO
10:26:26 SEE SOMEBODY PAY THE PRICE FOR SOMETHING THEY HAVE NOTHING
10:26:28 TO DO WITH.
10:26:29 >> THAT POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
10:26:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:26:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:26:33 AND THE PART ABOUT THE RESIDENCY, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO
10:26:36 DO, TO HELP YOU ALL.
10:26:37 WE ARE GOING TO HELP YOU ALL MAKE THAT DECISION.
10:26:42 THE OTHER THING IS ABOUT HIRING.
10:26:43 AFTER THIS I AM GOING -- I WANT TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL HIRING
10:26:47 THEIR AIDES, BECAUSE THE MAYOR DID VETO A HIRE, AND THAT
10:26:54 PERSON WAS NOT HIRED.
10:26:56 SO WHEN WE GET DONE WITH THIS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.
10:27:01 IT WASN'T CHANGED.
10:27:02 IT WAS IN PLACE AND HE DID IT ANYWAY.
10:27:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS
10:27:14 TALKING ABOUT WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO HIRE AND NOT HIRE.
10:27:16 THE CHARTER ITSELF -- AND THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK AT IT
10:27:20 A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN MR. MIRANDA, WHICH IS I THINK THAT
10:27:23 ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:27:27 IT SENDS A BAD SIGNAL TO THE REST OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT YOU
10:27:31 COULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN HERNANDO COUNTY, YOU COULD
10:27:35 HAVE SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN ORLANDO, FOR GOD'S SAKE.
10:27:38 I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A SMART DECISION TO ALLOW FOR
10:27:42 SOMEONE TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS WHEN THEY ARE
10:27:45 MAKING SO MANY DECISIONS THAT AFFECT ALL THE CITIZENS THAT
10:27:49 PAY TAXES HERE.
10:27:51 AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S AN ESSENTIAL PART OF WHAT
10:27:55 THIS SECTION IS ABOUT.
10:27:56 THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT AND THE WAIVER, I THINK, IS AN
10:28:01 ATTEMPT TO SPLIT THE BABY.
10:28:03 AND FOR ME, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO DO THAT,
10:28:06 BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN WHERE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY JUST OVER
10:28:10 THE LINE FROM CITY LIMITS, AND THEY NEED TO MOVE IN, AND
10:28:13 THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE SOMETIMES IN ORDER TO DO IT.
10:28:17 BUT THAT'S THE CHOICES THAT WE ALL MAKE WHEN WE DECIDE TO
10:28:19 TAKE A JOB.
10:28:20 I THINK THAT IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THE PERSON THAT IS GOING
10:28:23 TO TAKE THE JOB TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE THE RULES, YOU HAVE A
10:28:27 YEAR TO DO IT, OKAY, OR LET'S SAY WE WILL GIVE YOU A CERTAIN
10:28:31 AMOUNT OF TIME, AND WE WILL WAIVE IT BECAUSE WE SAID,
10:28:35 LISTEN, WE UNDERSTAND YOU LIVE IN ST. PETE, YOU HAVE TO MOVE
10:28:37 TO TAMPA, YOU HAVE GOT TO FIND A HOUSE, DO ALL THESE OTHER
10:28:40 THINGS.
10:28:41 THAT'S FINE BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY THEM TO MOVE.
10:28:44 AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REASONABLE WAY OF DOING IT.
10:28:47 I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE OPEN ENDED, THOUGH.
10:28:49 I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF TIMES
10:28:52 THAT YOU CAN WAIVE AND HAVE ANOTHER YEAR ON IT.
10:28:57 FOR ME THAT'S REALLY THE IMPORTANT PART OF IT, BECAUSE I
10:29:01 REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE HEAD OF OUR DEPARTMENTS
10:29:04 LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:29:06 I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE A POLICE CHIEF
10:29:10 WOULD LIVE IN ANOTHER SECTION OF THE STATE, OR EVEN, BECAUSE
10:29:15 THERE'S NO RESTRICTION, THEY COULD LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE
10:29:18 COUNTRY.
10:29:18 IF YOU ARE THE CFO, YOU COULD LIVE ANYWHERE.
10:29:22 LITERALLY THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS, IF YOU REMOVE IT.
10:29:24 I REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:29:29 AND YOU MAY NOT DO A VERY GOOD JOB, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
10:29:33 THERE'S NOTHING THAT RESTRICTS YOU TO DO THAT BEINGS, IF WE
10:29:36 REMOVE THIS.
10:29:37 SO I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD KEEP THAT.
10:29:39 AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN -- AND MR. SHELBY, MENTIONED ALL
10:29:44 THESE OTHER PEOPLE, MR. SHELBY DOES NOT HAVE AN
10:29:46 ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE.
10:29:47 MR. SHELBY IS, YOU KNOW, IS EMPLOYED AT THE BEHEST OF THE
10:29:51 CITY COUNCIL.
10:29:52 WE CAN GET RID OF HIM AT ANY TIME.
10:29:54 IF WE DON'T LIKE -- THAT'S OUR RIGHT AND THE MAYOR GETS RID
10:30:05 OF A LOT OF FOLKS ADMINISTRATIVELY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT LIVE
10:30:08 IN THE CITY.
10:30:09 BUT I THINK THAT WHEN YOU ARE A DEPARTMENT HER, YOU HAVE A
10:30:12 RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY, IN ADDITION TO YOUR JOB.
10:30:17 THOSE A LITTLE IT BIT DIFFERENT.
10:30:20 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:30:20 >>HARRY COHEN: SO I CONCUR IN PART AND DISAGREE IN PART.
10:30:30 I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO
10:30:33 LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:30:34 I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD DID WAS
10:30:38 REALLY THE PERFECT SOLUTION.
10:30:42 IT DOES SPLIT THE BABY.
10:30:44 I THINK, THOUGH, THAT IT IS FINE TO WAIVE IT CONTINUALLY IF
10:30:50 NECESSARY, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
10:30:51 I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD LIVE IN
10:30:55 THE CITY.
10:30:56 HOWEVER, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SITUATIONS WHERE THE GREATEST
10:31:00 STORMWATER ENGINEER IN THE UNITED STATES HAPPENS TO LIVE IN
10:31:05 POLK COUNTY AND YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE USE OF THAT
10:31:09 PERSON'S EXPERTISE OR SERVICES AND THERE HAS TO BE A
10:31:12 MECHANISM TO DO IT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE OF A SITUATION LIKE
10:31:14 WE HAD OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THERE WAS A STORY
10:31:19 IN THE MEDIA ABOUT HOW THE INTERIM TITLE WAS BEING
10:31:24 MANIPULATED.
10:31:25 IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN MAKE IT
10:31:31 OFFICIAL FOR THE PERSON TO SERVE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE
10:31:35 IT BE AN AUTOMATIC THAT ANYBODY THAT LIVES OUTSIDE THE CITY
10:31:39 CAN BE A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
10:31:40 YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE WITH WHATEVER EVERYBODY
10:31:43 WANTS TO DO ON THIS.
10:31:44 I HAPPEN TO THINK, THOUGH, THAT WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:31:47 BOARD CAME UP WITH IS THE BEST TYPE OF COMPROMISE.
10:31:50 I DO UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S CONCERN THAT THE
10:31:53 COUNCIL COULD SOMEHOW USE THIS AS A BARGAINING CHIP, AND
10:31:59 SOMEHOW USE THIS TO GAIN LEVERAGE WITH THE MAYOR.
10:32:01 AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REASONABLE CONCERN, AND MAYBE
10:32:05 SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT, HOW TO DEAL WITH.
10:32:09 BUT I THINK OVERALL THIS IS THE RIGHT APPROACH TO MAKE IT
10:32:16 LIKELY THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE GOING TO LIVE IN THE
10:32:18 CITY, TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO LIVE IN THE CITY, BUT HAVE A
10:32:21 MECHANISM WHEN THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO WORK AROUND.
10:32:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND IF I COULD QUICKLY, I DON'T DISAGREE
10:32:27 WITH YOU ARE IN THAT SENSE.
10:32:28 BUT I DO THINK THAT SENSE WE ONLY GET ONE SHOT AS A COUNCIL
10:32:31 TO APPROVE THIS, WHICH IS EVERY TIME THAT WE ARE -- EVERY
10:32:36 FOUR YEARS, IT GOT TO BE LESS THAN FOUR YEARS, BECAUSE THEN
10:32:39 YOU CAN GAIN THE SYSTEM FOR EIGHT YEARS, OR AS LONG AS YOU
10:32:42 WANT AND NEVER LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:32:43 I THINK THE SPIRIT OF IT IS THAT YOU SHOULD LIVE IN THE
10:32:47 CITY.
10:32:48 WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A HARDSHIP ON PEOPLE.
10:32:50 WE DON'T WANT TO MUTT A HARDSHIP EVEN ON THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:32:53 I THINK MAYBE TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TWO BITES AT IT
10:32:56 AND THAT WILL BE UP AT TWO YEARS.
10:32:58 I THINK THERE'S NOTHING UNREASONABLE ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
10:33:01 >> A LIMIT.
10:33:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: EXACTLY.
10:33:05 AND I THINK WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING
10:33:07 ABOUT.
10:33:08 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL'S POINTS ABOUT AN IRRESPONSIBLE
10:33:15 FUTURE MEMBER HOLDING HOSTAGE IF YOU WILL AN INNOCENT THIRD
10:33:18 PARTY OVER A BEEF THEY MAY HAVE WITH THE FUTURE
10:33:21 ADMINISTRATION, I THINK, IS WELL TAKEN.
10:33:23 I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WE DON'T ELECT PEOPLE WITH SUCH LOW
10:33:27 MORAL CHARACTER.
10:33:29 I'M JUST BEING HONEST.
10:33:31 BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS TRYING TO
10:33:33 PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY, TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB ON BEHALF
10:33:36 OF TAXPAYERS.
10:33:37 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
10:33:39 SO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT ARE OBVIOUSLY WELL TAKEN.
10:33:42 ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT'S BEEN TERMED AND
10:33:45 OPEN-ENDED WAIVER BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE BEEN -- THINK OF A
10:33:51 SHOE, I GUESS, A POTENTIAL FOOT.
10:33:53 WE DON'T WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS GOING TO BE APPLYING.
10:33:56 WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE TAKING UP THIS POSITION IN
10:33:59 THE FUTURE.
10:33:59 SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
10:34:02 LIBERALITY.
10:34:02 I THINK THAT WHICH IS PROPOSED, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT PERFECT
10:34:05 BUT I THINK IT'S THE MOST PERFECT SOLUTION THAT WE CAN GET
10:34:08 FOR THIS POTENTIAL ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.
10:34:10 APPROXIMATE SO MY THOUGHTS.
10:34:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER COUNCILMAN WISHES TO --
10:34:16 COMMISSIONER WISH TO SPEAK?
10:34:18 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE ONE MORE POINT, TOO.
10:34:21 MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE REMINDING ME THAT THERE WAS SOME
10:34:24 DISCUSSION THAT THIS LANGUAGE -- I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE OR
10:34:30 SPOKE IN TERMS OF MY INTERPRETATION OF IT, ABOUT YOU THIS
10:34:32 LANGUAGE WAS INTENDED TO ALLOW ONE WAIVER FOR ONE YEAR.
10:34:36 IT SEEMS FROM THE DISCUSSION AND COUNCILMAN COHEN'S QUESTION
10:34:39 EARLIER ABOUT WHAT IT MEANT, FROM THE DISCUSSION OF THE
10:34:43 GROUP, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER ADDING A SECOND
10:34:47 SENTENCE TO EITHER SUGGEST THAT THE WAIVER MAY ONLY BE
10:34:50 GRANTED ONE SINGLE TIME, OR THE WAIVER CAN BE GRANTED FOR
10:34:56 SUCCESSES TERMS SO THAT THERE'S NOT A QUESTION ON THAT.
10:34:59 BUT THERE WERE SOME STRONG FEELINGS ON THE PART OF SOME OF
10:35:01 THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS WOULD ONLY BE ONE SINGLE TIME AS
10:35:06 AND THE PERSON MAY NOT THERE BE THERE.
10:35:10 AGAIN THERE WAS A PLURALITY THAT WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION
10:35:12 THAT YOU ALL ARE HAVING ON IT.
10:35:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WONDER WHY.
10:35:18 (LAUGHTER).
10:35:20 >>HARRY COHEN: MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THROUGH ALL OF THEM BEFORE
10:35:23 WE ACTUALLY WRAP THEM UP IN A PACKAGE.
10:35:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU HAVE TO COME
10:35:30 BACK, BECAUSE --
10:35:33 >>HARRY COHEN: I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE
10:35:35 RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD, AND THEN WE ADD
10:35:39 A SECOND SENTENCE, AND THAT THAT SECOND SENTENCE SAYS THAT
10:35:43 THE WAIVER MAY BE GRANTED UP TO, I DON'T KNOW, THREE
10:35:49 SUCCESSIVE YEARS MAXIMUM?
10:35:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: HOW ABOUT FOUR?
10:35:53 THE TERM?
10:35:54 NO?
10:35:55 >>HARRY COHEN: I AM TRYING TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND HERE.
10:35:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE APPROVE THEM WHEN WE COME IN, WHEN THEY
10:36:01 ARE HIRED, RIGHT?
10:36:02 >>HARRY COHEN: YOU KNOW, I CAN MAKE THE MOTION THAT IT
10:36:06 COULD BE GRANTED EACH YEAR OVER AND OVER --
10:36:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ:
10:36:17 >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
10:36:19 MR. MIRANDA WANTS TO SPEAK.
10:36:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID.
10:36:23 SO YOU HAVE A RULE, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PASSED BY
10:36:29 CONSENSUS AND THEN YOU VIOLATE THAT BY SAYING YOU CAN HAVE
10:36:33 IT FOR FOUR YEARS, EVEN 20 YEARS.
10:36:36 WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
10:36:37 THEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A -- I GOT A WATER, ELECTRIC
10:36:41 BILL, YOU RENT SOMETHING, I DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE.
10:36:44 WE ARE KIDDING OURSELVES.
10:36:45 THAT'S THE POINT WE ARE GETTING AT.
10:36:48 THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
10:36:49 >>HARRY COHEN: LET ME RESTATE THE MOTION.
10:36:52 THE MOTION WILL BE TO SECTION 6.01 UNDER OFFICERS, THE
10:36:59 RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS OF ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS MAY BE WAIVED
10:37:01 BY A VOTE OF NO FEWER THAN FIVE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
10:37:04 FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO ONE YEAR RENEWABLE A MAXIMUM OF TWICE.
10:37:08 >> SECOND.
10:37:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:37:12 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:37:16 ANY DISCUSSION?
10:37:17 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:37:18 OPPOSED?
10:37:20 ALL RIGHT.
10:37:20 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:37:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:37:32 WE OR GO TO SECTION 6.02.
10:37:36 ANY RESERVATION, CONCERNS?
10:37:38 6.02 TERM.
10:37:40 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] MOVE APPROVAL OF THAT SECTION.
10:37:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:37:48 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:37:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:37:50 OPPOSED?
10:37:50 ALL RIGHT.
10:37:50 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:37:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:38:02 THE NEXT ONE IS 6.03.
10:38:05 APPOINTMENTS.
10:38:07 ANY RESERVATION, CONCERN?
10:38:12 GOT A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:38:13 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:38:14 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:38:18 OPPOSED?
10:38:18 ALL RIGHT.
10:38:19 NEXT SECTION IS 6.06.
10:38:25 SALARY.
10:38:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXCUSE ME.
10:38:26 DIDN'T WE JUST DO THOSE?
10:38:28 AREN'T THOSE THE CLEAN-UPS?
10:38:31 DIDN'T WE DO THOSE?
10:38:32 DID WE NOT PASS A MOTION TO -- I HAVE IT MARKED.
10:38:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: RIGHT, BECAUSE THE SECTION WAS REMOVED SO
10:38:41 THAT'S PART OF THE CLEAN-UP OF IS THAT CORRECT, CHAIR?
10:38:44 OF 6.06 WAS ADMINISTRATIVE CLEAN-UP?
10:38:52 I'M SORRY.
10:38:54 SO WE ARE ON 6.06.
10:38:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:39:11 GOT A MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:39:14 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:39:15 ANY DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL?
10:39:16 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:39:17 OPPOSED?
10:39:18 ALL RIGHT.
10:39:19 6.07 WAS DONE WHEN WE DID THE CLEAN-UP.
10:39:24 IS THAT CORRECT?
10:39:25 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:39:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:39:27 SAME THING WITH 6.08.
10:39:30 SAME THING?
10:39:31 >> YES, SIR.
10:39:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:39:35 THEN 7.02, BUDGET.
10:39:40 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN 7.01.
10:39:49 >> IS SO MOVED.
10:39:56 >> SECOND.
10:39:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:39:59 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:40:00 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:40:02 ANY OPPOSED?
10:40:03 OKAY.
10:40:04 7.02, BUDGET.
10:40:06 >> HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE, SIR.
10:40:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT'S ALSO HOUSEKEEPING?
10:40:16 ALL RIGHT.
10:40:17 OKAY.
10:40:20 THE NEXT I HAVE WAS 7.4-11.
10:40:33 >> 7.05.
10:40:34 IT WAS HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE.
10:40:35 I BELIEVE THAT WAS INCLUDED.
10:40:37 >>CHAIRMAN: 7.05 WAS HOUSEKEEPING, CORRECT?
10:40:41 7.06, REVENUE.
10:40:44 THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF IN HOUSEKEEPING.
10:40:47 7.07.
10:40:49 CHANGES.
10:40:50 TAKEN CARE THROUGH HOUSEKEEPING.
10:40:51 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY CHANGES IN .07.
10:40:56 RECOMMENDED.
10:40:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: 7.08
10:41:05 OKAY.
10:41:06 WE HAVE -- IS THAT IT FOR HOUSEKEEPING?
10:41:11 >> I BELIEVE THAT ONE MAY BE CLARIFICATION IN NATURE.
10:41:14 BUT 7.08 SHOULD BE VOTED ON.
10:41:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE OF STATE LAW?
10:41:26 >> DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT?
10:41:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME BASED ON THE
10:41:30 RED LINE.
10:41:31 >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY.
10:41:35 THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE GOING BACK AND
10:41:37 FORTH.
10:41:38 AND WE WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF THERE'S A CONTRACT
10:41:41 THAT WE HAVE THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN WAY OR STATE LAW, WE
10:41:46 HAD TO MAKE IT A BROAD LANGUAGE THAT IF THE DOCUMENT IS
10:41:48 REQUIRED TO BE SPENT IN CERTAIN WAY THEN THE CHARTER ALLOWS
10:41:52 THAT TO BE DONE.
10:41:52 >> I'LL MOVE THAT, CHAIR.
10:41:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:41:56 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:41:57 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:41:58 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:42:00 OPPOSED?
10:42:01 ALL RIGHT.
10:42:04 7.09.
10:42:09 IS THAT HOUSEKEEPING OR NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON?
10:42:18 >> I THINK IT SHOULD BE VOTE PD ON TO THE EXTENT THAT WE
10:42:21 ADDED SOME STABILITY ON THE TYPES OF METHODS THAT FUNDS MAY
10:42:24 BE DRAWN UPON TO BROADEN IT FOR STATE AND FEDERAL LAW SO IT
10:42:31 COULD HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE EFFECT BUT WE CONSIDERED IT PART OF
10:42:34 HOUSEKEEPING.
10:42:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:42:39 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:42:40 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:42:41 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:42:42 OPPOSED?
10:42:43 ALL RIGHT.
10:42:44 7.10.
10:42:45 INVESTMENT FUNDS.
10:42:46 >> 7.10 IS SUBSTANTIVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:50 THE OLD LANGUAGE, WE FELT TO BE A LITTLE BIT RESTRICTIVE OF
10:42:54 THE TYPES OF INVESTMENTS THAT MIGHT BE MADE OF CITY FUNDS,
10:42:59 AND WE ATTEMPTED TO CONFORM THE LISTED INVESTMENTS, WHAT IS
10:43:04 PERMITTED AT THE STATE LEVEL UNDER SECTION 215.47 FLORIDA
10:43:08 STATUTES.
10:43:10 ALTHOUGH THE COMMISSION DID FEEL LAKE CERTAIN TYPES OF
10:43:13 INVESTMENTS, NAMELY SECURITIES WHICH REPRESENT PARTICIPATION
10:43:18 IN BY MORTGAGE LOANS, SECURED BY REAL PROPERTY OR NOT THE
10:43:23 TYPE OF INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY SHOULD AUTHORIZE FUNDS TO
10:43:27 BE INVESTED IN.
10:43:28 SO ALTHOUGH THAT'S AUTHORIZED AT THE STATE LEVEL, OUR
10:43:32 RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE NOT MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS AT THE
10:43:36 CITY LEVEL.
10:43:37 OTHERWISE, 215.47 WAS THE GOVERNMENT CITY AS WELL.
10:43:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:43:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:43:51 MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:43:53 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:43:55 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:43:58 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:44:00 OPPOSED?
10:44:01 OKAY.
10:44:04 7.11.
10:44:07 >> HOUSEKEEPING, SIR.
10:44:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOUSEKEEPING.
10:44:10 OKAY.
10:44:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: DIDN'T WE HAVE A DISCUSSION A LONG TIME
10:44:16 AGO ABOUT --
10:44:21 >>HARRY COHEN: THE BUDGET ANALYST IS IN HERE.
10:44:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I BRING IT UP EVERY YEAR.
10:44:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S IN HERE?
10:44:28 ALL RIGHT.
10:44:28 >> WE STARTED GIVING COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN'S QUESTION, ACTUALLY
10:44:35 IN ARTICLE 6, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO JUMP BACK TO THE BEGINNING
10:44:38 OF THE DOCUMENT.
10:44:39 WE KIND OF SKIP AHEAD BEFORE 6, AND I THINK THAT BUDGET
10:44:46 ANALYST LANGUAGE IS IN A SECTION PRIOR TO SECTION 6.
10:44:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:44:55 WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
10:44:56 SECTION 8.501.
10:44:57 >> HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE.
10:45:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:45:05 SO THAT WAS 8.2 THERE'S NO CHANGE.
10:45:13 8.04.
10:45:14 >> IT'S HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE.
10:45:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:45:20 SECTION 8.05.
10:45:22 NO CHANGE.
10:45:24 8.06, NO CHANGE.
10:45:26 8.07, 8.07, CONFLICT?
10:45:38 HOUSEKEEPING?
10:45:39 SECTION 9.01.
10:45:40 BOARD.
10:45:47 HOUSEKEEPING OR DOES IT NEED A VOTE?
10:45:50 >> I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE VOTED ON.
10:45:53 PARTICULARLY THAT THE REVIEW BOARD, A CLARIFICATION OF THE
10:46:01 BOARD USED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT NAME, BUT THE LAST SENTENCE,
10:46:07 STANDING BOARD BY ORDINANCE, CREATED BY RESOLUTION, I
10:46:11 BELIEVE IS NEW.
10:46:12 AND BETTER CLARIFIES THE PROCESS.
10:46:16 BETTER CLARIFIES THE PROCESS.
10:46:18 >> SO MOVED.
10:46:19 >> SECOND.
10:46:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:46:21 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:46:23 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:46:25 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:46:27 ANY OPPOSED?
10:46:28 OKAY.
10:46:29 SECTION -- THAT WAS REMOVED.
10:46:32 9.02 WAS REMOVED.
10:46:34 9.03 WAS VOTED ON.
10:46:38 SECTION 10.071.
10:46:39 >> HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE.
10:46:44 JUST A CROSS REFERENCE.
10:46:45 >> 10.202.
10:46:50 SECTION 10.03.
10:46:51 >> 10.03 DOES REQUIRE A VOTE.
10:46:56 THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION ABOUT BOTH PARTS THAT ARE
10:47:01 CHANGED SO THE LISTING OF PROTECTED CATEGORIES HAS BEEN
10:47:05 EXPANDED.
10:47:05 I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
10:47:08 AND THERE'S AN INCLUSION OF TRAINING THAT WOULD BE MANDATORY
10:47:13 BY CHARTER.
10:47:14 SO THE ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES THAT WE THOUGHT TO BE PROTECTED
10:47:22 BY STATE AND FEDERAL LAW SO WE DON'T BELIEVE -- AND MR.
10:47:25 TERRITO CAN SPEAK TO THIS BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD ADD
10:47:28 ANY ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO THE CITY BUT WE THOUGHT IMPORTANT
10:47:32 FOR THE CITY TO STATE THESE THINGS AFFIRMATIVELY.
10:47:34 IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE CITY FOR SOME REASON STATE OR
10:47:37 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECIDED TO BACK OFF OF PROTECTING THESE
10:47:40 INDIVIDUALS BY CHARTER, WE WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE PROTECTIONS
10:47:44 WITHIN THE CITY.
10:47:45 AND THEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A TRAINING THAT DOES
10:47:48 HAPPEN.
10:47:50 I UNDERSTAND MUCH OF THAT HAPPENS WELL, BUT WE WANTED TO
10:47:53 MAKE SURE THAT A PARTICULAR AREA LIKE HARASSMENT,
10:47:58 ANTI-DISCRIMINATION, IMPLICIT AND CULTURAL COMPETENCY BE
10:48:02 INCLUDED IN THAT TRAINING.
10:48:04 AND WE THOUGHT THAT THE MANNER AND INTERVAL OF THAT TRAINING
10:48:09 SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY COUNCIL, GIVING THE CITY THE
10:48:13 FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE IT AND ADAPT IT OVER TIME BUT MAKING
10:48:17 SURE THE -- WE DID HAVE CONSIDERABLE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
10:48:21 PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL.
10:48:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: MRS. CAPIN.
10:48:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS.
10:48:33 SORRY.
10:48:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE
10:48:36 THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
10:48:38 I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
10:48:40 AND YOU ARE RIGHT.
10:48:41 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO.
10:48:43 AND AT LEAST WE HAVE THESE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE, LOCALLY,
10:48:47 AND VERY GOOD.
10:48:49 >>HARRY COHEN: JUST TO CLARIFY.
10:48:51 WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE SETTING UP A PRINCIPAL IN THE
10:48:56 CHARTER BUT ALLOWING THE ORDINANCE TO GOVERN IN THE PRACTICE
10:48:58 AND IT CAN BE CHANGED IN TERMS OF THE INTERVAL AND THE
10:49:03 METHOD AND TRAINING BY COUNCIL.
10:49:07 >> THE TRAINING CAN BE CHANGED BY ORDINANCE.
10:49:09 THE TYPES OF CATEGORIES THAT ARE PROTECTED WOULD BE INVOLVED
10:49:13 UNLESS THE CHARTER IS CHANGED ITSELF.
10:49:15 >>LUIS VIERA: CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
10:49:19 AND THIS MAY BE A LEGAL QUESTION.
10:49:20 AGAIN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
10:49:21 BUT ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER
10:49:25 IDENTIFICATION ARE NOT PROHIBITED SUCH AS THE EMPLOYMENT
10:49:29 NONDISCRIMINATION ACT THAT'S BEEN VOTED DOWN FOR 20 YEARS ON
10:49:33 THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WE WOULD BE GOING BEYOND THAT WHICH IS A
10:49:35 GOOD THING, BY THE WAY.
10:49:36 IS THAT CORRECT?
10:49:37 OR YOUR UNDERSTANDING?
10:49:39 >> MY RECOLLECTION WAS NOT ALL OF THESE WERE IN BOTH FEDERAL
10:49:42 AND THE STATE, BUT THAT EACH OF THESE EXISTED IN EITHER THE
10:49:45 STATE OR THE FEDERAL.
10:49:47 SAL, YOU MIGHT CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
10:49:49 AND I THINK WE WOULD BE GOING A LITTLE BIT -- WE WOULD AT
10:49:53 LEAST BE MAKING A STATEMENT AND CONFIRMING IT HERE IN THE
10:49:56 CITY AND SAYING REGARDS TO WHETHER IT'S REQUIRED BY THE
10:49:59 FEDERAL OR THE STATE GOVERNMENT, WE AS THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:50:01 BELIEVE IN THESE PRINCIPLES.
10:50:03 >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY.
10:50:06 YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:50:06 SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT IN FEDERAL AND STATE LAW.
10:50:09 WE ARE ADDING THEM TO OURS.
10:50:11 MOST OF THEM ARE IN FEDERAL OR STATE LAW AND THE CONCERN WE
10:50:13 HAD OBVIOUSLY IS IF IT GETS CHANGED WE WANT TO CONTINUE.
10:50:17 BUT THAT WAS NOT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE IN FEDERAL OR STATE LAW
10:50:20 DEALING WITH GENDER AND SO FORTH.
10:50:22 AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION.
10:50:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT PUTS TAMPA ACTUALLY A
10:50:31 HEAD OF OUR NOT SO SEDITIOUS BRETHREN IN TALLAHASSEE AND
10:50:39 D.C.
10:50:39 I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
10:50:40 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM SUAREZ.
10:50:45 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:50:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:50:47 OPPOSED?
10:50:48 ALL RIGHT.
10:50:53 MRS. CAPIN BROUGHT SOMETHING TO MY ATTENTION.
10:50:56 10.01.
10:50:57 >> PART B WAS NOT REVIEWED, CORRECT?
10:51:13 >> ACTUALLY IT'S NOT PART OF THE CHARTER.
10:51:16 IT'S ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.
10:51:17 SO WE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THOSE WERE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO
10:51:21 REVIEW.
10:51:21 SO IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS PART B OF THE CHARTER BUT IT
10:51:25 IS NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL CHARTER.
10:51:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:51:29 THERE'S ISSUES ON THERE THAT I BELIEVE, AND WHAT I WOULD
10:51:32 LIKE TO MAYBE LOOK AT IS IN THIS PART OF THE CHARTER, PART
10:51:41 B, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL IT, NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.
10:51:44 BECAUSE THAT'S FILLING ELECTIONS IN VACANCY AND IT IS NOT
10:51:50 PART OF THE CHARTER.
10:51:51 AND MAYBE ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES SHOULD BE PART OF THE
10:51:56 CHARTER.
10:51:57 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST STOOD OUT TO ME.
10:52:00 >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN.
10:52:02 THERE ARE TWO ISSUES WITH THAT.
10:52:03 ONE IS THAT A LOT OF THE ELECTION PROCEDURES ARE IN STATE
10:52:06 STATUTE.
10:52:06 WE HAVE A SPECIAL ACT DEALING WITH OUR ELECTION PROCEDURES.
10:52:09 THOSE THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY THE SPECIAL ACT, YOU HAVE THE
10:52:12 AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THOSE BY ORDINANCE.
10:52:14 THE PART B, TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, WHEN WE TRANSITION
10:52:18 FROM THE NONHOME RULE PROVISIONS THAT THE CONSTITUTION GAVE
10:52:22 US, ALL OF OUR CHARTER CONSISTED OF SPECIAL ACTS OF THE
10:52:27 LEGISLATURE.
10:52:27 SO WHEN THEY MADE THIS HOME RULE, THEY SAID, THESE NOW
10:52:32 BECOME ORDINANCES OF THE CITY, WITH SEVERAL EXCEPTIONS.
10:52:35 THE ELECTION ONE SHALL WE DID IN 1979, WE DELEGATED OUR
10:52:39 ELECTION PROCESS, NOT THE PROCEDURES BUT WHO DOES THE
10:52:42 ELECTIONS FOR US, AND SPELLED OUT HOW THAT WOULD BE DONE SO
10:52:46 THERE'S A SPECIAL ACT OUT THERE THAT SPELLS THIS OUT.
10:52:49 SO IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING BECAUSE MOST OF THE PART B
10:52:53 ORDINANCES, SOME OF THEM ARE STATE SPECIAL ACTS.
10:52:58 WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE BUT THAT REALLY FELL OUT OF THEIR
10:53:01 PURVIEW BECAUSE IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF PART A
10:53:03 OF THE CHARTER.
10:53:04 THAT'S A DIFFERENT SECTION, THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO
10:53:06 ADDRESS AND DIDN'T GIVE THEM AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS IT.
10:53:09 IT'S CONFUSING AND I KNOW THAT.
10:53:11 WHAT I TRIED TO PUT IN HERE WAS RATHER THAN WRITE OUT THAT
10:53:14 WHOLE ELECTION PROCESS AND SAY SEE PART C, IT REALLY REFERS
10:53:19 TO THE SPECIAL ACT.
10:53:21 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT NEEDS --
10:53:24 THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING US BE FROM LOOKING AT IT AND MAKING
10:53:27 IT PART OF THE CHARTER.
10:53:29 >>SAL TERRITO: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:53:30 BUT RIGHT NOW -- NO, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL ACT.
10:53:35 THE CHARTER CANNOT OVERRULE THE SPECIAL ACT.
10:53:37 THE SPECIAL ACT TALKS ABOUT VACANCIES ON CITY COUNCIL.
10:53:39 IT TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FILL THOSE
10:53:42 POSITIONS, AND WHEN YOU DON'T.
10:53:44 WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ELECTION.
10:53:46 AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES, IF THERE'S GREATER
10:53:49 THAN 15 MONTHS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION.
10:53:53 15 MONTHS OR LESS YOU HAVE THE CHOICE OF FILLING THOSE.
10:53:56 THAT'S IN THE SPECIAL ACT, NOT IN THE CHARTER.
10:53:58 AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR CHARTER TO ADDRESS THAT.
10:54:02 THE LEGISLATURE MADE THAT DECISION.
10:54:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO THE LEGISLATURE CAN CHANGE THE SPECIAL
10:54:06 ACT TO WHERE WE CAN BE ALLOWED TO PUT IN OUR CHARTER?
10:54:12 >>SAL TERRITO: IF THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE SPECIAL ACT
10:54:14 IT WILL NOT BE IN YOUR CHARTER.
10:54:16 IT WILL BE IN A SPECIAL ACT THAT YOU ARE NOW BOUND BY
10:54:18 IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER.
10:54:20 PART B OF THE CHARTER IS A MISNOMER.
10:54:22 IT WAS A CONVENIENCE.
10:54:24 WE HAD TO PUT THESE SOMEWHERE.
10:54:25 YOU HAD ALL THESE LAWS OUT THERE THAT WERE AFFECTING HOW THE
10:54:28 CITY OPERATED.
10:54:30 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THEM?
10:54:31 THEY PUT THEM IN THIS THING CALLED PART B BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:54:35 NOW ORDINANCES.
10:54:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: BUT THERE ARE CITIES THAT HAVE ELECTIONS IN
10:54:38 THEIR CHARTER.
10:54:39 >>SAL TERRITO: I KNOW THAT.
10:54:43 THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT CHARTER THAN WE DO.
10:54:44 WE CHOSE TO USE A SPECIAL ACT PROCESS.
10:54:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE CHOSE TO USE?
10:54:48 >> WHOEVER DID IT BACK IN 1979 CHOSE THAT, CORRECT.
10:54:52 SO IT'S NOT IN THE CHARTER.
10:54:53 IT'S IN A SPECIAL ACT.
10:54:55 IT SPELLS OUT THE VACANCIES AND HOW THEY ARE FILLED.
10:54:58 THE ONLY AUTHORITY YOU HAVE UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY -- AND IT
10:55:01 DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO REQUIRE A CHARTER CHANGE -- IS CHANGING
10:55:03 THE DATES OF THE ELECTION WHICH YOU DID IN THE LAST CITY
10:55:05 COUNCIL MEETING.
10:55:06 AND I KNOW IT'S A CONFUSION, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY
10:55:10 TO GET A HANDLE ON IT.
10:55:11 BUT THE PART B IN THE CHARTER CONSISTS PROBABLY 99%, NOW
10:55:19 ORDINANCES WHICH YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE, SEVERAL
10:55:21 OF THEM DEAL WITH THE T PENSIONS, FIRE, POLICE, EMPLOYEE
10:55:25 PENSION, DEALING WITH CIVIL SERVICE.
10:55:26 THOSE ARE ALL UNDER STATE SPECIAL ACTS.
10:55:28 WE CAN'T CHANGE THOSE BY CHANGING THE CHARTER.
10:55:31 WE CAN'T TAKE IT TO VOTERS TO CHANGE.
10:55:33 THEY HAVE TO BE CHANGED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
10:55:35 AND THE ELECTION PROCESS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT HAS TO BE
10:55:38 CHANGED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
10:55:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
10:55:42 THE LEGISLATURE CAN CHANGE --
10:55:44 >>SAL TERRITO: AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON.
10:55:45 THAT BUT IT'S NOT CHANGING OUR CHARTER.
10:55:47 IT'S CHANGING OUR ELECTION PROCESS.
10:55:48 BECAUSE THAT PART B IS NOT REALLY PART OF YOUR CHARTER.
10:55:52 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:55:53 >>SAL TERRITO: AND I AM NOT FOLLOWING YOU AND I'M SORRY.
10:55:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT PART OF THE
10:55:58 CHARTER.
10:55:59 BUT IF THE LEGISLATION COMES DOWN THAT WE CAN CHANGE IT -- I
10:56:13 AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. IF WE ELECTED TO DO IT
10:56:17 THIS WAY AND OTHER CITIES ELECTED TO DO IT ANOTHER WAY, AND
10:56:23 THEY WERE ALSO AT THAT TIME OF -- I'M STILLING IS STILL NOT
10:56:31 FOLLOWING WHY IT CAN'T BE LOOKED AT TO BE PART OF THE
10:56:34 CHARTER.
10:56:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THERE'S ABOUT 412 CITIES OUT THERE.
10:56:38 I'M SURE THEY DO EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO.
10:56:40 WE CHOSE, WHOEVER THAT WAS, TO USE THE SPECIAL ACT AS OUR
10:56:44 ELECTION PROCESS.
10:56:46 THEY MAY NOT HAVE SPECIAL ACTS DETERMINING THEIR ELECTIONS.
10:56:49 I DON'T KNOW EVERY ONE OF THEM SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT
10:56:51 QUESTION.
10:56:52 THERE MAY BE SOME THAT HAVE IN THE THEIR CHARTER BECAUSE
10:56:54 THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIAL ACT TO ADDRESS THAT.
10:56:56 THE PROBLEM WE HAD IS THAT AS YOU MAY BE KNOW, WE HAD AN
10:57:00 ELECTED CITY CLERK AT ONE TIME.
10:57:02 WE HAD THE ELECTED CITY CLERK.
10:57:03 THAT PERSON PERFORMED OUR ELECTIONS FOR US.
10:57:06 WE WENT TO THE APPOINTED CLERK.
10:57:07 WE HAD TO FIND A MECHANISM TO DO THAT.
10:57:09 IN 1979, THAT WAS DELEGATED TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
10:57:13 AND WITH THAT WENT ALL OF THOSE PROCESSES.
10:57:16 FOR INSTANCE, WHO DOES YOUR REDISTRICTING FOR YOU?
10:57:19 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES THE INITIAL ONE AND IT'S
10:57:21 APPROVED BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS THAT KEEPS YOU OUT
10:57:24 OF THAT PROCESS BECAUSE A SPECIAL ACT SAYS HOW THAT IS DONE.
10:57:28 ON THE CITIES, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO THERE'S.
10:57:32 THERE ARE TOO MANY OUT THERE.
10:57:33 SO IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, SPECIAL ACT AS
10:57:37 PROPOSED BY THE CITY, SUBMIT IT TO THE LEGISLATURE. IF THEY
10:57:41 AGREE WITH YOU THEY'LL CHANGE.
10:57:42 IF THEY DON'T, IT STAYS THE SAME.
10:57:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S THE PROCESS I WAS LOOKING FOR.
10:57:46 >>SAL TERRITO: WITH YOU THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING UNDER YOUR
10:57:56 PURVIEW.
10:57:58 THAT PART IS VERY CONFUSING.
10:57:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: MAYBE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO
10:58:01 FOLLOW UP ON THIS PART BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT,
10:58:04 THE ELECTION AND THE VACANCIES.
10:58:15 IT BE VERY MUCH EFFECTS HOW THIS BODY WORKS.
10:58:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN JUST TO INFORM
10:58:19 COUNCIL.
10:58:19 I HAD TO REFRESH MY OWN RECOLLECTION.
10:58:22 BUT WITH REGARD TO, LET'S SAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S RELATED TO
10:58:25 ELECTION, THE ISSUE OF TERM LIMIT IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE
10:58:28 CHARTER ITSELF, WHICH FOR INSTANCE CITY COUNCIL, THAT ISSUE,
10:58:34 EVEN THOUGH IT'S ELECTION RELATED THAT IS IN THE CHARTER IN
10:58:37 202nd .02 AND THE MAYOR IN SECTION 4.01.
10:58:40 SO JUST SO YOU ARE CLEAR, THAT ISSUE WITH REGARD TO THE
10:58:46 DISTRICT AND TERM LIMITS, THAT'S CONTAINED IN THE CHARTER
10:58:48 AND NOT NECESSARILY IN PART B EVEN THOUGH THEY BOTH DEAL
10:58:51 WITH ELECTIONS.
10:58:51 DID I MAKE THINGS MORE CONFUSING?
10:58:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: BECAUSE WE BOTH DEAL WITH ELECTIONS.
10:58:57 AND WE HAVE ONE IN THE CHARTER, AND SOME OF IT IN THE
10:59:00 CHARTER AND SOME OF IT IS IN PART B.
10:59:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANTED COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR ABOUT
10:59:19 THAT, THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS RELATED TO THE ELECTION
10:59:22 THAT ARE IN THE CHARTER ITSELF.
10:59:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO, BECAUSE I
10:59:26 LOOKED AT TERM LIMITS, AND SO THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY TO
10:59:40 MAYBE MAKE A MOTION TO STUDY THAT, PART B.
10:59:43 BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
10:59:45 >> IF I MIGHT.
10:59:46 WE DID LOOK AT THE MODEL CHARTER AND WE DID LOOK AT SOME
10:59:50 ITEMS IN PART B AND OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE HAD MUCH ROBUST
10:59:55 DISCUSSION ABOUT, WHETHER TO INCLUDE CERTAIN THINGS OR NOT
10:59:59 SUBSTANTIVELY.
11:00:01 MY RECOLLECTION IS, I WOULDN'T WANT THE COMMISSION TO TAKE
11:00:03 AWAY FROM OUR DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING NOT
11:00:06 INCLUDING MORE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ELECTIONS.
11:00:08 IT JUST WASN'T WITHIN THE SCOPE OR THE RESOURCES THAT WE
11:00:11 HAD, OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE INTRICACIES OF ALL THOSE
11:00:16 ORDINANCES AND SPECIAL ACT AND PROPOSE SOMETHING.
11:00:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I APPRECIATE THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT
11:00:21 IT UP, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THIS IS NOT PART OF -- IT'S HERE,
11:00:27 BUT IT WASN'T PART OF THE PURVIEW.
11:00:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:00:35 SECTION 10.04.
11:00:37 THERE WERE NO CHANGES.
11:00:38 CORRECT?
11:00:39 >> CORRECT.
11:00:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: SECTION 10.057.
11:00:45 NO PROBLEM.
11:00:49 SECTION 10.06.
11:00:55 THAT WAS DONE THROUGH HOUSEKEEPING?
11:00:57 >> YES, SIR.
11:00:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: 10.07.
11:00:59 >> 10.07 WOULD REQUIRE A SUBSTANTIVE VOTE, I BELIEVE.
11:01:03 WE DID IDENTIFY THAT THERE WAS SOME AMBIGUITY AS TO HOW THE
11:01:10 PROCESS AND THE INITIATIVE WOULD OCCUR.
11:01:14 AND SO OUR SUGGESTION WAS WE CROSS REFERENCED FLORIDA
11:01:18 STATUTE SECTION 166-031.
11:01:21 AND THEN WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TIMING, AND
11:01:25 OUR CONCERN WAS THAT COUNCIL COULD CHANGE THE PROCESS IS F
11:01:34 IF THERE WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE COMING DOWN
11:01:37 THE PIKE AND THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THE CITIZENS, SO HOW
11:01:41 FREQUENTLY AN INITIATIVE COULD BE CHANGED, AND IT WOULD ONLY
11:01:45 BE ABLE TO BE CHANGED ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, AND IT COULDN'T
11:01:49 BE CHANGED WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE GENERAL ELECTION OBVIOUSLY
11:01:55 IF SOMEONE QUALIFIED AND WAS GETTINGS ON THE BALLOT IT
11:01:57 WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO HAVE THE PROCESS CHANGED RIGHT BEFORE
11:02:01 THE VOTE.
11:02:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:02:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:02:06 >> SECOND.
11:02:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:02:08 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:02:11 FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:02:11 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:02:13 OPPOSED?
11:02:14 ALL RIGHT.
11:02:14 SECTION 10.08.
11:02:16 >> HOUSEKEEPING, SIR.
11:02:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: THERE'S NO CHANGE IN SECTION 10.09.
11:02:23 >> CORRECT.
11:02:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: SECTION 10.10.
11:02:26 >> IT DOES REQUIRE A VOTE.
11:02:31 IT'S SOMEWHAT SELF-EXPLANATORY BUT IF SOMEONE CODIFIES ON A
11:02:35 TEN YEAR BASIS, THE CHARTER REVIEW ON A PERIODIC BASIS, WE
11:02:42 DID FEEL LIKE THE PRESENCE OF A FACILITATOR WASN'T IMPORTANT
11:02:49 AS A STAFF PERSON TO MOVE ALONG THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION.
11:02:53 AND WE SET FORTH A BIT OF A PROCESS HERE.
11:02:57 I HAVE THAT CHARTER -- ON WHEN THAT CHARTER AMENDMENT WILL
11:03:00 TAKE PLACE.
11:03:01 AND THIS SOMEONE TRACKS WHAT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT THE
11:03:05 COUNCIL PASSED IT IN 2017.
11:03:10 >>HARRY COHEN: SO I DO THINK THE LANGUAGE HERE DOESN'T MAKE
11:03:16 IT CLEAR THAT THE NINE MEMBERS, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SET UP
11:03:23 ONE AND THE MAYOR WILL APPOINT TWO.
11:03:27 THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT IN HERE.
11:03:28 AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE.
11:03:34 IT SAYS THE TWO ALTERNATES, ONE BY THE COUNCIL, ONE BY THE
11:03:36 MAYOR.
11:03:37 BUT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT WHO APPOINT IT IS NINE.
11:03:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME READ THIS.
11:03:42 COMMENCING IN 2027, EVERY TEN YEARS THERE SHALL BE
11:03:46 ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE CHARTER REVIEW CRC COMPOSED OF NINE
11:03:51 MEMBERS AND TWO MEMBERS ALTERNATE APPOINTMENT ONE BY THE
11:03:55 CITY COUNCIL AND ONE BY THE MAYOR.
11:03:57 AND IT'S A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS.
11:04:00 AFTER THE NINE MEMBERS, JUST WHAT YOU SAID, MR. COHEN.
11:04:08 >>HARRY COHEN: IT WOULD BE ONE BY EACH COUNCIL.
11:04:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AFTER THAT NINE MEMBERS, TWO ALTERNATES
11:04:19 AND NINE MEMBERS.
11:04:20 SEVEN, ONE BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND TWO BY THE MAYOR.
11:04:23 >> IT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSION TO MIRROR THE
11:04:26 PROCESS OF APPOINTMENTS THAT WE HAD TODAY AND CERTAINLY WE
11:04:31 WELCOME CLARIFICATION OF THAT.
11:04:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITH THE AMENDMENT MR. COHEN BROUGHT UP,
11:04:38 I MOVE THIS 10.10.
11:04:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:04:42 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:04:43 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:04:46 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:04:48 OPPOSED?
11:04:49 OKAY.
11:04:51 10.11.
11:04:54 CHARTER AMENDMENT.
11:04:54 >> I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THE REST OF THE AMENDMENTS
11:05:02 FROM 10.11 TO THE END OF THE DOCUMENT WERE ALL HOUSEKEEPING
11:05:06 IN NATURE.
11:05:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:05:12 LET'S GO TO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO
11:05:20 CONSIDER.
11:05:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: ARE WE GOING TO DO 1.1?
11:05:24 BECAUSE I BROUGHT UP 6.-SOMETHING.
11:05:28 WE WOULDN'T AHEAD AND FINISHED THAT AND WE DIDN'T DO -- WE
11:05:32 DIDN'T START FROM THE BEGINNING.
11:05:35 I APOLOGIZE.
11:05:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: BACK TO THE BEGINNING?
11:05:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, SIR.
11:05:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:05:41 >> 2.01, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE IS THE FIRST SECTION WITH A
11:05:46 SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.
11:05:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: 2.01.
11:05:53 WE NEED TO VOTE ON 2.1.
11:05:57 >> MOVE APPROVAL.
11:05:59 >> SECOND.
11:06:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:06:03 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:06:05 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:06:07 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:06:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:06:10 SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS ADDING TO THE -- YOU ARE ADDING THE
11:06:14 STATUTE TO THE CHARTER SAYING THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE.
11:06:19 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE?
11:06:21 >> THIS IS A CLARIFICATION OF PROCESS BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE
11:06:24 IT CHANGES THE CURRENT PROCESS, THE CODIFICATION OF IT.
11:06:27 AND FOR THE CITIZENS READING THE DOCUMENT IT WOULD BE MORE
11:06:33 INFORMATIVE.
11:06:34 >>HARRY COHEN: IT DOES CODIFY THE ISSUE OF THE PLANNING
11:06:37 COMMISSION DOING THE REDISTRICTING.
11:06:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: RIGHT.
11:06:41 THAT'S WHAT I WAS -- OKAY.
11:06:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SPECIAL ACT
11:06:50 AS MR. TERRITO PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED.
11:06:52 >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXACTLY.
11:06:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT'S IN A SPECIAL ACT SO IT'S CLEAR AND YOU
11:06:58 SEE THE CHARTER, NOW THE PROCESS.
11:07:00 OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO GO LOOK IT UP IN STATUTE WHICH SAYS
11:07:03 THE SAME THING.
11:07:04 BY PUTTING IT HERE, THE CITIZENS --
11:07:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHY DIDN'T WE PUT IT IN THE OTHER PART TOO?
11:07:09 THE ELECTION?
11:07:10 THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE.
11:07:11 >>SAL TERRITO: THE REASON WAS, AND MAKE A REFERENCE TO IT,
11:07:16 IT WAS THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST WAY OF DOING IT
11:07:19 BECAUSE THAT IS IN OUR DOCUMENT.
11:07:22 YOU DON'T HAVE TOP GO TO THE STATE STATUTE TO FIND THAT PART
11:07:25 B BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE.
11:07:27 THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THEY HAD.
11:07:28 THE MEMBERS SAID THEY LIKE TO HAVE THIS IN HERE AND THAT'S
11:07:31 WHAT THEY CAME DOWN WITH.
11:07:32 AND YOU REALLY WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS.
11:07:34 IT WASN'T A DECISION THAT WE MADE.
11:07:37 THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOME IN HERE AND SOME NOT.
11:07:39 PART OF IT WAS THE CHARTER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN VERY LONG.
11:07:42 THE ELECTION SECTION IS VERY LONG.
11:07:44 IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THERE, AGAIN THAT'S YOUR
11:07:46 DECISION.
11:07:46 IT'S UP TO YOU.
11:07:47 BUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO NOT PUT IN THE THERE.
11:07:50 BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU.
11:07:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT, BECAUSE IF
11:07:54 WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE STATUTES IN THE CHARTER, THEN WE
11:07:57 NEED TO INCLUDE IT, THE STATUTE IN THE ELECTION, AND IT'S
11:08:04 VERY LONG.
11:08:05 AND WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS IF IT'S VERY LONG, THEN IS
11:08:10 THIS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO TO THE VOTERS ON THE BALLOT?
11:08:17 >>SAL TERRITO: I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:08:18 IT'S ALREADY THERE SO IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.
11:08:22 IF YOU LA YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF STATUTES IN THERE.
11:08:25 WE DIDN'T INCLUDE EVERY SINGLE STATUTE BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S UP
11:08:27 TO YOU.
11:08:28 THE CHARTER IS GOING TO GET VERY, VERY LONG.
11:08:30 AND AGAIN WE HAVE A LIMITATION ON WHAT WE CAN PUT ON THE
11:08:32 BALLOT.
11:08:33 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE GETTING AMENDMENTS.
11:08:35 WE ARE CHANGING THE ENTIRE CHARTER AND IT WAS THOUGHT THAT
11:08:37 MAYBE THIS WAS A BETTER WAY.
11:08:39 IT'S YOUR DECISION HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:08:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO INCLUDING THIS STATUTE IN HERE DOES NOT
11:08:46 REQUIRE IT TO GO TO THE BALLOT, TO BE VOTED ON.
11:08:50 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:08:51 >>SAL TERRITO: IT PROBABLY DOES NOT.
11:08:53 I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:08:54 IT PROBABLY DOES NOT.
11:08:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH INCLUDING IN THE
11:08:58 CHARTER THE STATUTE OF THE ELECTION AND THE REPLACEMENT?
11:09:06 WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?
11:09:09 VACANCY.
11:09:10 >>SAL TERRITO: IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PUT IN THE CHARTER,
11:09:13 IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PUT IN THE CHARTER BY VOTE, YOU CAN
11:09:16 MAKE THOSE CHANGES AT A LATER DATE OR AN EARLIER DATE ON
11:09:20 YOUR OWN.
11:09:20 I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
11:09:23 BUT I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TO MAKE SURE.
11:09:24 IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE BY REFERENCING THE STATUTE.
11:09:27 THAT WAS CLEAR.
11:09:28 NOW BY PUTTING IT IN HERE ARE WE CHANGING ANYTHING?
11:09:32 KNOW WE ARE NOT BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO --
11:09:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SOMEONE LOOKS AT THE CHARTER AND THEY SAY
11:09:41 LOOK AT PART B.
11:09:42 NO.
11:09:43 PUT THE STATUTE WHERE THE ELECTION AND THE VACANCIES ARE.
11:09:49 AND THAT MAKES IT VERY CLEAR TO WHOEVER LOOKS AT THE CHARTER
11:09:53 RIGHT AWAY, SEES THAT IT'S A STATUTE, AND --
11:10:03 >> PART B IS THIS SECTION HERE.
11:10:09 I DID NOT PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE.
11:10:11 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT -- THIS IS AGAIN THEIR
11:10:16 DECISION.
11:10:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DID NOT SAY TO INCLUDE PART B.
11:10:19 I SAID TO INCLUDE ON THE ELECTION AND THE VACANCIES, WHICH
11:10:25 IS NOT THE ENTIRE PART B, IS IT?
11:10:28 >>SAL TERRITO: [OFF MICROPHONE] I SAID THAT'S YOUR
11:10:31 DECISION, NOT MINE.
11:10:32 THEY DIDN'T WANT THE CHARTER TO GET TOO LONG.
11:10:34 BUT THAT'S YOUR DECISION.
11:10:35 THAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
11:10:37 YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE OPTION TO MAKE ANYTHING YOU WISH.
11:10:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: FINE.
11:10:42 I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO THAT LATER.
11:10:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR PERTAINING
11:10:47 TO SECTION 2.01.
11:10:53 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:10:55 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:10:58 OPPOSED?
11:10:59 ALL RIGHT.
11:10:59 SECTION 2.02.
11:11:03 HOUSEKEEPING.
11:11:05 ALL RIGHT.
11:11:05 SECTION 2.03.
11:11:07 >> 2.03 WOULD REQUIRE A VOTE AND DOES HAVE ONE SUBSTANTIVE
11:11:14 CHANGE WHICH IS THE ADDITION OF THE WORD ANNUALLY.
11:11:16 THIS AFFECTS THE CHOICE OF CHAIRMAN OR THE VOTING OF
11:11:20 CHAIRMAN AND THE ROTATION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
11:11:21 WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S CUSTOM OH TO ROTATE THAT OUT BUT IT
11:11:26 WASN'T REQUIRED BY CHARTER.
11:11:27 AND SO THE ONE REAL SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE OF THIS REQUIRES THE
11:11:33 CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE A VOTE EACH YEAR.
11:11:36 AT LEAST ANNUALLY.
11:11:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
11:11:43 GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:11:44 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:11:45 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:11:47 OPPOSED?
11:11:48 ALL RIGHT.
11:11:49 SECTION 2.04.
11:11:52 >> 2.04 DOES HAVE SOME SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENT AND DOES
11:11:57 REQUIRE A VOTE.
11:11:59 ONE ISSUE THAT COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN ALLUDED TO EARLIER IS IT
11:12:04 HELPS ENSURE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN BE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE
11:12:07 AIDE.
11:12:08 THE LANGUAGE IS CRAFTED SUCH THAT IT'S ONE FULL-TIME
11:12:14 EQUIVALENT MEANING THE PERSON COULD HAVE TWO PART-TIME
11:12:16 INDIVIDUALS OR THREE THIRD INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH THEM.
11:12:20 IT ALSO CREATES SOME FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE COUNCIL BRING ON
11:12:23 OTHER STAFF AND A PROCESS FOR THAT TO INDICATE THAT IT WOULD
11:12:28 COME OUT OF COUNCIL'S BUDGET AND COSTS OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL'S
11:12:36 BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE MAYOR.
11:12:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: MRS. CAPIN?
11:12:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:12:42 SO EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MAY EMPLOY ONE FULL-TIME
11:12:47 EQUIVALENT LEGISLATIVE AIDE SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION OF THE
11:12:51 COUNCIL MEMBER, OTHER STAFF.
11:12:55 WE HIRE WHO WE WANT.
11:13:00 RIGHT?
11:13:00 >> YES, MA'AM.
11:13:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE MAYOR CANNOT VETO WHO WE HIRE.
11:13:04 CAN WE PUT IN THE HERE?
11:13:06 BECAUSE THAT HAS HAPPENED.
11:13:10 SHOW ME WHERE IT'S AT.
11:13:11 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:13:19 >>HARRY COHEN: THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
11:13:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
11:13:23 THANK YOU.
11:13:23 >> CHANGES WILL BE TO ENSURE THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
11:13:27 CONTROL THEIR OWN HIRING OF THEIR ONE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT.
11:13:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: MUCH APPRECIATED.
11:13:33 >> IF IT WENT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY COULD DO FOUNTAIN IT'S
11:13:36 IN THEIR BUDGET IF THEY WENT INTO THE CITY BUDGET, THEY
11:13:40 WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MAYORAL APPROVAL.
11:13:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF COURSE THAT MEANS THAT WHOEVER WE
11:13:45 HIRE HAS GOT TO BE VETTED OUT LIKE ANY OTHER.
11:13:49 >> I DON'T THINK IT A ROW INDICATES THE NORMAL HR PROCESS.
11:13:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF SOMEBODY HAS 27 CONVICTIONS OF
11:13:57 SOMETHING, CAN WE STILL HIRE THAT PERSON?
11:14:00 >>SAL TERRITO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:14:04 >> SORRY IF I DIDN'T ARTICULATE BUT IT DOES NOT.
11:14:07 AND I DEFER TO COUNSEL ON TAKING ON THAT.
11:14:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY INTERPRETATION THE WAY IT READS, THEY
11:14:13 WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER -- I AGREE.
11:14:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO ANYTHING ELSE PERTAINING TO SECTION
11:14:28 0.4?
11:14:31 LET'S GET A MOTION.
11:14:32 I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:14:34 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:14:35 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:14:37 OPPOSED?
11:14:38 ALL RIGHT.
11:14:39 SECTION 2.05.
11:14:41 OKAY.
11:14:41 2.06, OKAY.
11:14:43 2.07.
11:14:44 >> HOUSEKEEPING AS WELL.
11:14:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:14:51 2.08 HOUSEKEEPING.
11:14:56 2.09.
11:14:56 >> 2.09, IT DOES HAVE SOME SUBSTANTIVE IMPACT.
11:15:02 IT'S INTENDED TO MODERNIZE BY ALLOWING WEBSITE NOTICE, IN
11:15:10 ADDITION NOT AS A REREPLACEMENT BUT IN ADDITION TO NOTICE
11:15:15 AND CLARIFIES IF THERE ARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW
11:15:18 WHICH I THINK CAN HAPPEN ANYWAY.
11:15:20 THOSE WOULD SUPERSEDE THE 7-DAY REQUIREMENT.
11:15:23 BUT THE IDEA HEAR WAS COMPLETE VISIBILITY OF NOTICE.
11:15:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
11:15:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO HANDLE IT THIS WAY BUT I AM
11:15:35 LOOKING AT THE 2.08, THE READINGS, AND WHAT KIND OF FINAL
11:15:49 READING HAS TO BE READ IN FULL?
11:15:51 I SAW THE "READ IN FULL."
11:15:56 THAT ISN'T FOR THE BUDGET, IS IT?
11:16:10 THAT'S PROBABLY DEMAND OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:16:13 THE DEMAND OF THREE CITY COUNCIL -- I'M SORRY.
11:16:17 I'M SEEING THAT IT'S IN THE CHARTER THAT WHAT REQUIRES
11:16:20 SOMETHING TO BE READ IN FULL AS OPPOSED BY TITLE ONLY AND
11:16:25 SAYS AT THE DEMAND OF THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:16:28 THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CHARTER.
11:16:29 >> IT SAYS UPON DEMAND.
11:16:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THAT'S NOT SUBSTANTIVE.
11:16:38 THANK YOU.
11:16:39 I APOLOGIZE.
11:16:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: 2.9.
11:16:42 SECTION 2.09.
11:16:44 ANY DISCUSSION?
11:16:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:16:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:16:50 SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:16:51 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:16:53 OPPOSED?
11:16:54 OKAY.
11:16:55 SECTION 2.10.
11:16:56 >> HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:17:00 >>SAL TERRITO: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:17:10 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU TOOK OUT,
11:17:19 THAT WAS UNCLEAR, TOOK THAT LANGUAGE OUT BUT BASICALLY
11:17:21 EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS IN THERE.
11:17:24 TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE CITY, THAT
11:17:28 DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE THE STRUCTURE.
11:17:32 THAT'S THE ONLY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.
11:17:39 >> WHAT MR. TERRITO IS SPEAKING OF IS IN 4.02.
11:17:44 >>SAL TERRITO: I'M SORRY, I'M IN THE WRONG PLACE.
11:17:47 >> I BELIEVE THOSE ARE JUST HOUSEKEEPING.
11:17:50 >>SAL TERRITO: I'M SORRY.
11:17:52 I LOOKED AT THE WRONG THING.
11:17:54 MARRED PARDON ME.
11:17:55 GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE.
11:17:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO 2.10 HOUSEKEEPING.
11:18:00 2.11 OKAY.
11:18:01 2.12 OKAY.
11:18:03 2.13 HOUSEKEEPING.
11:18:04 2 .14 HOUSEKEEPING.
11:18:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: COULD I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT 2.14 IF
11:18:10 POSSIBLE?
11:18:11 I NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN OUT SOME LANGUAGE CONCERNING
11:18:16 SUBPOENA POWER.
11:18:16 I'M CURIOUS.
11:18:17 IS THAT STATE LAW OR SOME OTHER CONFLICT?
11:18:21 >> AS I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT
11:18:24 INDICATED THAT THERE MIGHT BE QUESTIONABLE, AND NEED TO BE
11:18:29 CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THE LAW.
11:18:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:18:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: SECTION 3.01.
11:18:37 CITY CLERK.
11:18:38 >> THESE ARE HOUSEKEEPING REQUIRED MATERIAL, AND WE JUST
11:18:45 ADDED SOME LANGUAGE, I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY,
11:18:48 COMES FROM THE MODEL CHARTER BURR IT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION
11:18:52 OF RESPONSIBILITIES AS A FUNCTION OF WHAT THE CITY CLERK
11:18:58 DOES.
11:18:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO HOUSEKEEPING.
11:19:02 ALREADY VOTED ON, HOUSEKEEPING?
11:19:04 >> I THINK IT COULD BE READ TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE EFFECT ON
11:19:07 RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY CLERK, SO IT MIGHT BE ADVISABLE
11:19:10 TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT ONE.
11:19:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
11:19:13 >> SO MOVED.
11:19:13 >> SECOND.
11:19:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:19:15 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:19:17 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:19:19 OPPOSED?
11:19:20 OKAY.
11:19:21 SECTION 4.01.
11:19:23 >> I BELIEVE THAT 4.01 IS HOUSEKEEPING.
11:19:28 I BELIEVE THAT THE EXCEPTION OF OFFICERS, DIRECTORS,
11:19:33 MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS IS A CLARIFICATION IN NATURE.
11:19:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOUSEKEEPING.
11:19:39 ALL RIGHT.
11:19:40 4.02.
11:19:41 >> 4.02 IS THE SECTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT MR. TERRITO WAS
11:19:46 REFERRING TO JUST A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
11:19:49 THERE HAD. HISTORICALLY BEEN A PROVISION WHERE THE MAYOR IS
11:19:53 ABSENT FROM THE CITY, OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
11:19:56 THE MAYOR NO LONGER SERVES IN THAT CAPACITY.
11:19:59 I THINK OUR FEELING WAS THAT IN TODAY'S DAY OF MOBILITY AND
11:20:03 CONNECTIVITY, IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT WOULD
11:20:07 BE INABILITY OF THE MAYOR TO SERVE IN THE CAPACITY A AS
11:20:10 OPPOSED TO KNOW THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION OF THE MAYOR.
11:20:13 SO WE REMOVED THE GEOGRAPHIC COMPONENT AND WE ADDED THE
11:20:16 WORDS INABILITY TO SERVE.
11:20:18 THE WORD INABILITY TO SERVE.
11:20:19 >> FUTURE MAYORS WILL BE ABLE TO DINE IN TEMPLE TERRACE?
11:20:25 (LAUGHTER).
11:20:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEY CAN EVEN CROSS OVER TO ST. PETE.
11:20:29 (LAUGHTER).
11:20:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:20:33 DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE?
11:20:35 >> YES, SIR.
11:20:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:20:38 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:20:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:20:40 OPPOSED?
11:20:41 ALL RIGHT.
11:20:42 SECTION 5.01.
11:20:44 >> 5.01 ADDS FLEXIBILITY TO CREATE AND CHANGE DEPARTMENTS
11:20:54 THAT I THINK PRIOR TO THIS SECTION BE ADDED TECHNICALLY, AND
11:20:59 THIS IS A MECHANISM TO KEEP THE CHARTER FRESH WITHOUT HAVING
11:21:03 TO LOCK IS IN STONE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND NOT HAVE IT BE
11:21:08 CHANGED OVER TIME.
11:21:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:21:10 ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
11:21:14 MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:21:15 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:21:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:21:18 OPPOSED?
11:21:18 ALL RIGHT.
11:21:24 5.03.
11:21:31 >> 5.03 DOES REQUIRE A SUBSTANTIVE VOTE.
11:21:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
11:21:43 >> MOVE APPROVAL.
11:21:44 >> SECOND.
11:21:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:21:47 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:21:48 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:21:50 OPPOSED?
11:21:51 SO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THESE NOW.
11:21:53 AND YOU GOT ITEMS THAT YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER FOR BALLOT
11:21:58 INITIATIVE?
11:22:00 >> THIS WAS IT, CHAIR.
11:22:02 AS I MENTIONED, WE DID DISCUSS QUITE A FEW ISSUES RESOLVED
11:22:06 ON THIS AS A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION.
11:22:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:22:10 SO WE ARE THROUGH WITH THIS?
11:22:13 >> YES, SIR.
11:22:15 (LAUGHTER).
11:22:19 >> THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
11:22:20 >> I MIGHT ADD FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, WE OF COURSE AS A
11:22:23 COMMISSION -- IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE IF OUR WORK IS COMPLETE AT
11:22:32 SOME POINT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO OFFICIALLY DISBAND US, SO
11:22:36 THAT WE CAN BE FRIEND AND TALK TO EACH OTHER.
11:22:43 WHENEVER YOU ALL THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
11:22:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME DO THIS.
11:22:49 FIRST THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING AND BEING PART
11:22:53 OF THIS PROCESS.
11:22:54 AND JUST WANT TO GIVE ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT
11:22:58 WOULD LIKE TO SAY A WORD OR TWO AT THIS TIME, FEEL FREE TO
11:23:02 COME UP AND SAY A WORD OR TWO.
11:23:05 AND WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE YOU AT A FUTURE
11:23:09 MEETING.
11:23:09 >> THANK YOU.
11:23:10 IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE.
11:23:11 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:23:15 OF MY NAME IS RICK, AND I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING
11:23:18 ON THE COMMISSION AND WE THANK ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US THIS
11:23:22 PRIVILEGE.
11:23:22 WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS LONG ENOUGH.
11:23:24 I JUST WANT TO THANK ONE OF OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS MR. C
11:23:29 CRISTALDI, AND I THINK WE SPEAK FOR ALL OF US AND ALL HIS
11:23:37 PARTICIPATION.
11:23:38 THAT'S YOU WILL I HAVE TO SAY.
11:23:39 THANK YOU.
11:23:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU WILL BE REAPPOINTED IN TEN YEARS.
11:23:43 (LAUGHTER)
11:23:44 ANYONE ELSE?
11:23:45 WELL, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
11:23:51 FOR ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO MOVE THIS
11:23:54 CITY FORWARD, AND AS YOU NOTICED, IT WAS BACK IN 1970
11:24:00 SOMETHING THE LAST TIME THE CHARTER WAS REVISITED, AND YOU
11:24:04 ARE PART OF HISTORY NOW, AND THAT YOU HAVE PLAYED A ROLE IN
11:24:08 MAKING SURE THAT BE CHANGES ARE MADE, AND WENT THROUGH THE
11:24:16 CHARTER, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A FEMALE MAYOR, AND HE, AND ALL
11:24:25 THIS.
11:24:25 SO THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL OF THAT.
11:24:27 AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYBODY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AT THIS
11:24:29 TIME?
11:24:33 >>LUIS VIERA: SO WE ARE GOING TO HONOR THEM AND THANK THEM
11:24:36 AT A LATER TIME?
11:24:38 >>CHAIRMAN: YES.
11:24:39 >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY, VERY BUSY
11:24:41 PEOPLE, AND YOU WERE NOT COMPENSATED FOR YOUR
11:24:45 TIME.
11:24:46 AND IF YOU WERE, I DON'T THINK WE COULD AFFORD SOME OF YOUR
11:24:49 HOURLY RATES.
11:24:49 BUT THANK YOU.
11:24:50 I MEAN THAT.
11:24:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:24:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
11:24:56 MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, I WANT
11:25:03 OF THIS HAS BEEN A STELLAR BOARD, AND I SHOULD POINT OUT,
11:25:06 AND I DON'T THINK MS. CARATI, SHE'S ACTUALLY RETIRED THE END
11:25:14 OF JUNE AND SHE DID SAY THIS WAS PROBABLY THE MOST AUGUST
11:25:19 BOARD THAT HAS BEEN HER PRIVILEGE TO HELP FACILITATE.
11:25:23 SO TAMPA IS VERY FORTUNATE, AND THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR
11:25:28 POINTING SUCH -- AND THE MAYOR FOR POINTING SUCH A WONDERFUL
11:25:32 GROUP OF CITIZENS TO HELP ASSIST IN OF THIS PROCESS.
11:25:36 BUT ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES, IT DOES SAY UPON ACCEPTANCE OR
11:25:39 REJECTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OR
11:25:42 REVISION, THE CRC SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY DISSOLVED.
11:25:45 BUTT IT WOULDN'T MIND A MOTION TO OFFICIALLY DO THAT.
11:25:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE WILL DO THAT AFTER -- NO, WHAT YOU JUST
11:25:58 STATED.
11:25:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST SAID UPON ACCEPTANCE OR REJECTION
11:26:02 BY CITY COUNCIL PROPOSED REVISION OR AMENDMENT THE CRC SHALL
11:26:06 BE AUTOMATICALLY DISSOLVED.
11:26:07 AND IT APPEARS WE ARE --
11:26:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, AND WE STILL NEED TO
11:26:14 DO SOMETHING BEFORE THAT.
11:26:16 THAT WILL BE THE LAST THING BEFORE WE ADJOURN TODAY.
11:26:19 ALL RIGHT?
11:26:22 MR. MANISCALCO, I RECOGNIZE MR. MANISCALCO.
11:26:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE MEMBERS OF
11:26:27 THE COMMISSION TO COME BACK FOR A FORMAL PRESENTATION,
11:26:30 COMMENDATION, THANKING YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
11:26:33 I'M LOOKING AT THE DATES HERE.
11:26:37 BE HE WOULD DON'T MEET NEXT THURSDAY.
11:26:39 WE HAVE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET IN JULY.
11:26:42 I WAS THINKING AUGUST 2nd, SINCE IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY.
11:26:52 EVERYBODY IS CHECKING.
11:26:53 THE 9 A.M. THURSDAY, AUGUST 2nd.
11:26:54 >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
11:26:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: AND YOU ALL GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE
11:27:01 SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
11:27:01 SO YOU GOT PLENTY OF TIME.
11:27:03 SO WE GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:27:05 SECOND BY MR. BE COHEN.
11:27:06 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
11:27:10 THOSE OPPOSED?
11:27:11 ALL RIGHT.
11:27:12 WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN IN AUGUST.
11:27:14 AND BEFORE YOU GO, MRS. CAPIN, YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT?
11:27:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OPEN [OFF MICROPHONE] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:27:21 A MOTION THAT SECTION 10.01, THAT THE ELECTIONS AND
11:27:26 VACANCIES, THE STATUTES BE ADDRESSED THERE, IN THAT PART, IN
11:27:33 THE CHARTER.
11:27:34 THAT'S NOT A CHANGE.
11:27:36 SO THAT IS CLEAR I SEE YOUR FACE.
11:27:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
11:27:50 THE QUESTION WAS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. TERRITO CAN
11:27:53 DETERMINE WHETHER THAT BE DONE BY ACTION OR ORDINANCE AND
11:27:56 NOT BE PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS AND COUNCIL CAN ACTUALLY TAKE
11:27:58 THAT UP AT MORE OF A LEISURELY PACE IF IT SO DESIRES.
11:28:03 >>SAL TERRITO: IF I MAY MAKE A REQUEST.
11:28:04 I HAVE GOT TO MUCH GO THROUGH THESE TO FIND OUT WHICH ONES
11:28:07 HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS AND THE KEY RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE
11:28:10 RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
11:28:11 I HAVE TO GET THE FIRST PORTION DONE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE
11:28:14 BALLOT DONE CORRECTLY.
11:28:15 WE CAN DO THIS -- IF I CAN COME BACK TO YOU THE NEXT COUNCIL
11:28:20 MEETING OR TWO OR THREE WEEKS FROM NOW TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT
11:28:23 WE CAN DO WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE VOTER PROCESS, BECAUSE I
11:28:26 HAVE GOT TO GET THIS ALL ORGANIZED.
11:28:28 BE.
11:28:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S MY MOTION.
11:28:33 >>HARRY COHEN: UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
11:28:36 TO MAKE IT EASY?
11:28:38 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:28:39 THEN MOVE ON IT AT THAT TIME OR NOT.
11:28:47 I SEE MR. COHEN GOING THROUGH THE CALENDAR.
11:28:50 >>HARRY COHEN: JUNE 28th AT 10:30 A.M.?
11:28:54 >> THE DEADLINE I DON'T THINK IS AFFECTED BY THIS.
11:28:56 THE QUESTION WE HAVE TO GET TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS
11:28:58 OF HOW LONG WE THINK THE BALLOT IS GOING TO BE F.THIS
11:29:01 DOESN'T GET INCLUDED I WILL LET THEM KNOW EVEN IF I DON'T
11:29:04 GET YOU BACK IN TIME THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
11:29:07 BALLOT LANGUAGE.
11:29:08 THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PAGES ARE NECESSARY.
11:29:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR AND FOLLOWING
11:29:14 UP WITH MR. TERRITO'S DISCUSSION ON THE TIMELINE, THE
11:29:17 PROVERBIAL DROP DEAD DATE THIS HAS BEEN HAS TO BE BEFORE THE
11:29:22 ELECTION OF SUPERVISORS, AUGUST 28, THE DAY OF THE PRIMARY.
11:29:26 >> THE DAY AFTER THE PRIMARY, RIGHT.
11:29:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, TIME HAS TO
11:29:31 BE ALLOWED FOR MR. TERRITO TO PROVIDE THE PROPER LANGUAGE TO
11:29:36 COMPLY WITH STATE LAW, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL, HAVE IT ON
11:29:39 FIRST READING, THEN ALLOW IT TO COME BACK FOR A VETO IF IT
11:29:44 IS GOING -- IF THE MAYOR DOESCHAS TO VETO IT BUT TO ALLOW
11:29:48 ENOUGH TIME FOR IT TO BE PASSED ON EITHER SECOND READ, OR,
11:29:56 BARRING THAT, THE OVERRIDE THE VETO IF COUNCIL SHOULD SO
11:29:59 CHOOSE.
11:29:59 BUT YOUR LAST REGULAR MEETING -- AND IT HAS -- THE OVERRIDE
11:30:04 OF A VETO HAS TO BE DONE PER YOUR CHARTER AT A REGULAR
11:30:07 MEETING WHICH IS THE AUGUST 23rd.
11:30:08 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
11:30:09 >> JUNE 28th.
11:30:15 >>SAL TERRITO: AND I WILL KNOW BY THEN WHETHER THIS HAS TO
11:30:18 BE INCLUDED.
11:30:18 THAT'S ALL YOU ARE UNDERSTANDING.
11:30:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW THAT, BUT THE REASON I AM SAYING
11:30:21 THIS TO YOU IS JUST TO REMAIN COGNIZANT OF THE TIME
11:30:24 CONSTRAINTS UNDER WHICH MR. TERRITO HAS TO OPERATE.
11:30:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:30:30 YOU ARE VERY EFFICIENT.
11:30:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:30:35 THAT'S YOUR MOTION.
11:30:37 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:30:38 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:30:39 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE?
11:30:41 OPPOSED?
11:30:43 >>THE CLERK: REPEAT MOTION FOR CLARIFICATION?
11:30:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE MOTION IS SECTION 10.01 AT ELECTIONS
11:30:54 AND VACANCIES, THE MOTION IS TO COME BACK WITH A STAFF
11:30:58 REPORT IF THAT -- IF WE DON'T -- IF WE CAN JUST INCLUDE IT
11:31:15 WITHOUT THE STATUTE ON THAT, IF WE CAN INCLUDE IT IN THE
11:31:19 CHARTER WITHOUT IT GOING TO THE VOTER.
11:31:22 THAT'S THE REPORT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
11:31:24 ON JUNE 28th.
11:31:30 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
11:31:31 THANK YOU.
11:31:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT OKAY.
11:31:36 HAVE WE MOVED THE MOTION?
11:31:39 >>HARRY COHEN: I THINK WE DID.
11:31:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: DID WE MOVE THE MOTION?
11:31:42 IN A, I DON'T THINK SO.
11:31:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:31:47 OKAY.
11:31:49 THE LAST ITEM IS TO DISSOLVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
11:31:54 AT THIS TIME.
11:31:55 >>HARRY COHEN: SO MOVED.
11:31:57 >> SECOND.
11:31:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:32:00 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:32:01 ANY DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS?
11:32:02 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:32:05 OPPOSED?
11:32:06 ALL RIGHT.
11:32:07 THANK YOU ALL.
11:32:07 AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF YOU AT CHURCH'S CHICKEN.
11:32:13 (LAUGHTER)
11:32:26 ALL RIGHT.
11:32:27 ITEM 4.
11:32:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:32:40 I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
11:32:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.
11:32:51 STAFF?
11:32:52 MR. TERRITO?
11:32:55 WE ARE GOING TO THE NEXT ITEM.
11:32:57 YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH THAT.
11:32:59 OKAY.
11:33:03 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THAT WAS THE LOOK THAT WE LOVE YOU BUT
11:33:08 LEAVE.
11:33:09 (LAUGHTER)
11:33:10 I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, COUNCIL.
11:33:22 WE HAVE A CEREMONY AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
11:33:25 THESE ARE THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT THAT ARE BEFORE
11:33:27 YOU TODAY.
11:33:28 AND I WILL GO THROUGH THEM.
11:33:29 THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, THE COVER MEMO.
11:33:32 YOU WILL NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE IN BOLD, THERE'S A
11:33:34 NUMBER, HASHTAG, AND A NUMBER.
11:33:37 AND THEY GO IN ORDER OF WHAT'S ON THE MEMO.
11:33:39 SO ITEM NUMBER 1 IS THE VERY FIRST PAGE AFTER THE MEMO.
11:33:43 THAT IS FOR THE YBOR CITY DISTRICT.
11:33:45 YC DISTRICT.
11:33:46 THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A CLEAN-UP ITEM.
11:33:49 ALL THE OTHER TABLES IN CODE, THE DIMENSIONAL TABLES FOR ALL
11:33:54 THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICT, MAX F.A.R. IN THOSE TABLES, WAS
11:33:59 REMOVED, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YBOR CITY, THAT
11:34:04 PARTICULAR TABLE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT RETAINED THE MAX
11:34:10 F.A.R. NUMBERS, SO THOSE ARE THE CLEAN-UP ITEMS TO DEFER TO
11:34:17 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:34:20 ITEM NUMBER 2.
11:34:22 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS. THIS ITEM AS WELL
11:34:26 IS ESSENTIALLY A CLEAN-UP ITEM.
11:34:28 THERE'S FOUR PAGES INCLUDED IN THAT.
11:34:33 THE FIRST ITEM, THE FIRST PAGE -- AND IT SAYS CHAPTER 27
11:34:41 ZONING.
11:34:42 [OFF MICROPHONE] THIS IS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN THE ZONING.
11:34:46 NOW THE NAME OF ZONING IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
11:34:48 BUT THE REST OF THE CODE WE SIMPLY SAY THIS CHAPTER,
11:34:53 CLEANING UP THAT LANGUAGE.
11:34:56 THIS IS ANOTHER TYPO, ESSENTIALLY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY
11:35:04 COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT RETAINS THE WORD OFFICE, WHICH
11:35:09 IS INCORRECT, SO WE ARE USING THE CORRECT TERM.
11:35:21 THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, THERE'S REFERENCE TO PORTE-COCHERE
11:35:27 OR CARPORT.
11:35:28 WE CLEANED THIS PARTICULAR REFERENCE UP BECAUSE IT'S JUST
11:35:30 THE ONE TERM AS OPPOSED TO BOTH.
11:35:32 SO IT SHOULD HAVE HAD THE EXTRA WORD IN THERE.
11:35:36 AND ALSO, THE DISTANCE SEPARATION BETWEEN PRINCIPLE
11:35:40 BUILDINGS AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, BECAUSE OF TRADITIONALLY
11:35:44 SMALLER LOTS.
11:35:45 IT'S FIVE FEET MEASURED WALL TO WALL AND THREE FEET USE TO
11:35:50 USE.
11:35:52 FINALLY, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.
11:35:59 THE STANDARD RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS THAT YOUR
11:36:04 ACCESSORY BUILDING IS 15% OF THE MINIMUM LOT AREA OF THE
11:36:07 DISTRICT.
11:36:13 TWO ARE MERGED INTO ONE.
11:36:17 THE 15% IS STILL APPLICABLE WHERE THE TOTAL AREA OF EXISTING
11:36:24 ZONING LOT.
11:36:24 WE INCLUDED THE PROVISION UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 950.
11:36:29 THERE'S A SLIGHT CONFLICT WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
11:36:32 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ARE PERMITTED THROUGH SPECIAL USE IN
11:36:35 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:36:36 THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE 950 SQUARE FEET.
11:36:39 WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE COME IN
11:36:42 AND BUILT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT A SMALLER SIZE.
11:36:46 THEY WANT TO CONVERT IT TO A DWELL UNIT, AND THEN THEY
11:36:50 REALIZE, OH, IT COULD HAVE BEEN BIGGER.
11:36:52 SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP.
11:36:55 THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU CAN REACH THAT SIZE.
11:36:58 AND IF YOU EVER HAVE A CONVERSION ISSUE, YOU DON'T NEED TO
11:37:01 WORRY ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
11:37:02 IT REALLY JUST MAKES IT CONSISTENT.
11:37:06 THE NUMBER 3 ITEM IS FOR SIGN CODE REVISION, WHICH THE
11:37:13 DEPARTMENT PUT THROUGH BY IT'S ACTUALLY AFTER THE LAST
11:37:16 REVISION.
11:37:17 WHEN WE DID OUR INTERNAL TRAINING, WE REALIZED VERY SOON
11:37:23 AFTER COUNCIL ADOPTED THIS UPDATE THAT THE NONRESIDENTIAL
11:37:30 FLAG REGULATIONS FOR THE 35-FOOT HATE FOR RESIDENTIAL, AND
11:37:34 IT REFERRALS TO A SPECIFIC SECTION IN THE CODE FOR
11:37:37 NONRESIDENTIAL, WHICH ACTUALLY LIMITED THE HEIGHT TO 20
11:37:40 FEET.
11:37:41 SO IN THAT CASE WE WOULD HAVE A SHORTER FLAG ON A COMMERCIAL
11:37:44 PROPERTY AND A TALLER FLAG ON RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS JUST
11:37:48 WEIRD.
11:37:48 SO THIS IS JUST CLEANING UP THE TYPICAL HEIGHT OF 35
11:37:51 RESIDENTIAL AND 45 IN NONRESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THE HEIGHT
11:37:54 LIMIT, CI, CG, AND OFFICE DISTRICT.
11:38:00 THE OTHER ONE, THIS PARTICULAR ONE HERE FOR MULTIFAMILY
11:38:05 RESIDENTIAL, THESE WORDS WERE DROPPED PURELY BY ACCIDENT.
11:38:09 SO WE ARE ADDING THEM BACK IN.
11:38:11 THE OLD VERSION OF THE CODE, THE NEW VERSION.
11:38:13 THE WORDS REALLY WERE PYLON, BUT THEY ARE FREE STANDING SO
11:38:21 WE ARE ADDING THOSE UPDATED TERMS BACK IN.
11:38:24 THAT WAY THIS SENTENCE ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE.
11:38:28 ITEM NUMBER 4, I WILL DEFER FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS.
11:38:38 AND I DO HAVE A MEMO ITEM 5 WHICH WAS A MOTION MADE BY MR.
11:38:43 SUAREZ, BY COUNCIL, AND I HAVE A ONE-PAGER ON IT WHICH I
11:38:48 THINK MEETS WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
11:38:50 >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:38:54 I WILL AGAIN BE BRIEF.
11:38:56 AND WE ARE FAST APPROACHING THE NOON HOUR.
11:38:59 THIS IS A CHANGE TO OUR CODE.
11:39:07 WE ARE ALWAYS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS
11:39:09 UNDER THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
11:39:11 CURRENTLY, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS SORT OF SHOE HORNING
11:39:17 THOSE TYPES OF REQUESTS AND INTO WHAT WE HAVE, VARIANCES,
11:39:23 SPECIAL USE, THOSE PROCESSES.
11:39:25 THIS ACTUALLY PROVIDES NEW CODE SECTION THAT WILL ALLOW
11:39:27 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO ADDRESS REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION.
11:39:31 WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO SHOE HORN IT INTO THESE OTHER
11:39:34 PROCESSES.
11:39:35 IT IS A FREE PROCESS AND IT IS A PROCESS THAT WILL GO
11:39:40 THROUGH FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR
11:39:43 NOT THERE IS A NEED TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION
11:39:46 LEGALLY, AND TO PROVIDE THAT REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION.
11:39:50 WE ARE PUTTING THIS AS A CERTIFICATION BY THE AUTHORITY OR
11:39:54 OTHER APPLICABLE CODE AUTHORITY, AND IT WILL BE A NEW
11:39:57 SECTION ON REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS, SETTING OUT THE
11:40:02 STANDARDS BE AS SPELLED OUT IN THE FEDERAL STATUTE AND IN
11:40:05 CASE LAW.
11:40:05 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
11:40:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:40:11 (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK)
11:40:13 ANYTHING ELSE?
11:40:16 >> MS. COYLE HAS ONE MORE ITEM TO HAVE ADDRESS.
11:40:21 >>CATHERINE COYLE: MR. SHELBY IS PASSING IT OUT.
11:40:23 CITY COUNCIL MADE A MOTION AT THE END OF LAST YEAR TO PUT IT
11:40:28 INTO THIS CYCLE LOOKING AT FOOD TRUCKS.
11:40:33 THE MOTION ITSELF, I HIGHLIGHTED THE PIECES THAT I THOUGHT
11:40:36 WERE RELEVANT AND WE WERE DISCUSSING IT WITH THE LEGAL
11:40:39 DEPARTMENT AS WELL, TRYING TO TRULY ADDRESS LOOKING AT FOOD
11:40:44 TRUCKS WHICH ARE CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, COMMERCIAL
11:40:49 EQUIPMENT IN OUR CODE.
11:40:51 IT'S ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING THEM TO PARK OVERNIGHT.
11:40:54 THEY CAN'T PARK OVERNIGHT AT A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN FACILITY
11:40:59 OR AT A RETAIL BAKERY, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BE ACCESSORY
11:41:03 EQUIPMENT OR THEY MIGHT BE ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT ACTUALLY
11:41:08 COOKS IN THAT COMMERCIAL KITCHEN AND GOES OUT AND SERVES IN
11:41:11 THEIR LOCAL VEHICLE.
11:41:14 BUT THE MOTION TIED TO THE LICENSING TYPES, SUPPLEMENTAL
11:41:19 STANDARDS, RETAIL CATERING WAS MENTIONED, OTHER LIKE USES.
11:41:23 WITH THAT WHAT I AM SUGGESTING AND I THINK THIS PRETTY MUCH
11:41:26 ADDRESSES IT, IS TO ADD A FOOTNOTE TO A TABLE IN THE CODE, A
11:41:34 CATERING SHOP, SECTION 282.20 BELOW, ADDING THE USE
11:41:42 COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TABLE, THAT ALSO TIES TO THE SECTION, AND
11:41:47 PUTTING IT IN THE SAME DISTRICT THAT A RETAIL BAKERY AND
11:41:50 CATERING SHOP, ADDING COMMERCIAL KITCHEN DEFINITION, THAT
11:41:56 TIES IT INTO A PERMANENT FOOD SALES WITH OR WITHOUT SEATS.
11:42:01 AND I DID BY THE WAY FOR REFERENCE PULL EVERY SINGLE
11:42:03 LICENSING BE, AND GET DESCRIPTIONS IN HERE AND LANGUAGE TO
11:42:08 BEEF UP THE DEFINITIONS.
11:42:10 AND THEN ADD FOOD TRUCKS, DEFINITIONS, THEN LINKING IT TO --
11:42:21 WHATEVER IT'S CALLED AT THE STATE LEVEL.
11:42:23 CURRENTLY THIS SECTION OF CODE IS FOR RETAIL BAKERIES ONLY
11:42:26 AND IT DOES ALLOW THREE DELIVERY VEHICLES TO BE PARKED
11:42:30 OVERNIGHT.
11:42:30 SO THERE WAS THE OPENING THAT I SAW WITH THE MOTION FROM
11:42:33 COUNCIL THAT WE COULD PUT SLASH FOOD TRUCKS BUT CATERING
11:42:39 SHOP AND COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, AND IT SHOULD COVER IT.
11:42:44 AND THEN AGAIN THE CG DISTRICT SO I THINK IT COVERS THE
11:42:48 ISSUES RAISED.
11:42:49 UNLESS THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, I
11:42:52 THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANTED.
11:42:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
11:43:00 WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE KIND OF COMMERCIAL KITCHENS
11:43:02 THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN CG AREAS THAT -- THEY'LL PARK THE TRUCK
11:43:09 OVERNIGHT IN ORDER TO BE READY FOR THE NEXT MORNING TO HAVE
11:43:12 THEIR FOOD READY TO GO.
11:43:21 AND THEN I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE REDELIVERY OF FOOD TRUCKS.
11:43:24 I THINK I WAS TRYING TO GET CG REQUIREMENTS TO FIT WHAT IS
11:43:29 ALLOWED BASED ON THE F.A.R.
11:43:33 I MAY BE WRONG.
11:43:34 I AM JUST TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT IN MY HEAD.
11:43:37 BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.
11:43:41 THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THE TRUCK COULD NOT BE PARKED
11:43:44 AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT ALLOW
11:43:48 FOOD TRUCKS, THEY ALLOWED TRUCKS LIKE PLUMBING OR ANYTHING
11:43:53 ELSE BUT NOT FOOD TRUCKS OVERNIGHT I.WANT TO MAKE SURE IT
11:43:56 DOESN'T RESTRICT THEM IF THEY MEET THOSE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
11:44:04 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE RETAIL BAKERY --
11:44:08 >> YES, COMMERCIAL KITCHEN.
11:44:09 IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO ANY OF THE OTHER --
11:44:12 >> THAT'S WHY I AM ADDING IN COMMERCIAL KITCHEN.
11:44:14 IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE INS THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS.
11:44:19 I WENT TO THE STATE LICENSING DATABASE, AND THEY ARE ALL
11:44:23 OVER THE STATE.
11:44:23 AND THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES.
11:44:26 THEY ARE PERMANENT RETAIL VENUES WITHOUT SEATS, ESSENTIALLY.
11:44:30 SO REALLY, I THINK THIS WILL COVER THAT CONCEPT.
11:44:38 WE WANTED COMMERCIAL KITCHEN ADDED IN.
11:44:40 WE GOT THAT SITUATION.
11:44:41 FOOD TRUCKS.
11:44:42 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO ALLOW MORE THAN
11:44:44 THREE.
11:44:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND I THINK THEY ARE ALLOWED 4 BASED ON WHAT
11:44:50 CG REQUIREMENTS ARE NOW BASED ON HOW BIG THEIR FACILITY IS,
11:44:55 IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.
11:44:56 I COULD BE WRONG.
11:44:58 I'M JUST MAKING A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER
11:45:01 PIECE TO THIS THAT WE HAVEN'T --
11:45:04 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I AM NOT AWARE OF A RATIO LIKE THAT.
11:45:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I RECALL THAT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THE
11:45:09 ISSUES THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH.
11:45:10 BUT I AM HAPPY WITH CHANGING IT THIS WAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
11:45:13 MAKE IT ACCOMMODATING FOR A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN.
11:45:16 I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY OF THESE PLACES POPPING UP NOW.
11:45:18 THERE'S ONE IN MY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
11:45:22 AND THEY ARE PROVIDING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
11:45:25 THEY ARE USED IN THE KITCHEN.
11:45:27 THEY ARE TAKING THE FOOD.
11:45:28 PUT IT IN A FOOD TRUCK AND GOING OUT AND SELL.
11:45:30 AND TYPICALLY THE TRUCKS ARE NOT THERE VERY LONG.
11:45:33 THEY MAY BE THERE A FEW HOURS AND THEN THEY ARE GONE.
11:45:37 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I THINK JUST THE ISSUE OF OVERNIGHT.
11:45:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND IT'S THE OVERNIGHT ISSUE, I THINK, IS
11:45:42 RELATIVELY EASY TO SOLVE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OVERNIGHT VERY
11:45:46 OFTEN.
11:45:47 LIKE DONUTS, FOOD TRUCKS, YOU ARE MAKING SURE THE DONUTS ARE
11:45:53 READY IN THE MORNING JUST LIKE DUNKIN' DONUTS.
11:45:57 >>CATHERINE COYLE: SOME OF THESE ARE --
11:46:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK IT FITS WHAT I AM INQUIRING, AND THE
11:46:04 ONLY CAVEAT IS THE 3 VERSUS 4.
11:46:07 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CHECKED OUT.
11:46:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: AND THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL TUBE
11:46:11 IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE IT.
11:46:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, I THINK THESE ARE GOOD FOOTNOTES, AND I
11:46:16 THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
11:46:18 DO YOU NEED A MOTION IN ORDER TO ADD THAT HAD. IN?
11:46:23 ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU --
11:46:25 >>CATHERINE COYLE: IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH ALL OF THE AMENDMENT
11:46:26 YOU SIMPLY MAKE A MOTION TO SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING
11:46:29 COMMISSION.
11:46:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: ON THE ATTACHED BONUS DENSITY SO THAT THE
11:46:37 GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS BE.
11:46:44 >>CATHERINE COYLE: BONUS DENSITY IN 27-140.
11:46:47 THAT APPLIES TO ALL PLANNED CATEGORIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
11:46:52 PLAN.
11:46:54 THE VARIETY MAJORITY --
11:47:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT IS THAT?
11:47:02 >> THE BONUS PROVISIONS THEMSELVES, THERE'S A MINIMUM
11:47:06 THRESHOLD AND A MAXIMUM IN MOST CATEGORIES.
11:47:12 IN R-20.
11:47:13 YOU CAN HIT 18 UNITS PER ACRE BY RIGHT.
11:47:16 IF YOU WANT TO HIT 20, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME TYPE OF BONUS.
11:47:22 AS ADOPTED IN OUR CODE.
11:47:23 THE PROVISIONS FOR THOSE ARE IN OUR CODE AND THAT'S SECTION
11:47:26 27-140.
11:47:28 WE HAD BONUS PROVISIONS FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE.
11:47:37 IT ULTIMATELY IS A DOLLAR EQUIVALENT.
11:47:38 THE RATIO IN THE CODE IS ONE TO TEN.
11:47:40 SO EVERY DOLLAR THE DEVELOPER SPENDS ON A PUBLIC
11:47:43 IMPROVEMENT -- AND THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF ITEMS
11:47:46 THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM THAT ARE PURELY FOR THE PUBLIC
11:47:49 BENEFIT.
11:47:51 EVERY DOLLAR THEY SPEND, THEY GET TEN DOLLARS BACK
11:47:53 EQUIVALENT, DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY.
11:47:56 AND THAT TRANSLATES TO SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
11:47:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT DISCRETION DOES THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE?
11:48:12 >>CATHERINE COYLE: ON BONUS?
11:48:13 IT'S ACTUALLY COMPLETELY YOUR DISCRETION.
11:48:15 YOU APPROVE THE AGREEMENT.
11:48:16 AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO WITH THEM.
11:48:23 WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT THAT MUCH DENSITY AND INTENSITY.
11:48:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND IS THIS FROM WHAT TO WHAT?
11:48:32 >>CATHERINE COYLE: NO, THIS IS JUST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:48:34 EVERY OTHER DISTRICT IN THE CITY ALREADY DOES THIS.
11:48:37 THIS IS JUST TO CLEAN UP THE YBOR CITY TABLE SO THAT IT
11:48:40 MATCHES ALL THE OTHER DISTRICT.
11:48:43 EVERY OTHER DISTRICT DEVELOPS THE COMP PLAN.
11:48:46 THE COMP PLAN REFERS TO BONUS.
11:48:48 REFERS BACK TO OUR CODE FOR THE BONUS PROVISIONS THAT CITY
11:48:51 COUNCIL ADOPTS.
11:48:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE RETURN ON DENSITY.
11:48:58 OKAY.
11:49:02 SAY I'M A DEVELOPER.
11:49:04 I WOULD GO FOR THE BONUS EVERY TIME TO MAXIMIZE --
11:49:10 >>CATHERINE COYLE: A LOT OF THEM DO.
11:49:11 YOU SEE THEM IN PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS AND THERE'S A SEPARATE
11:49:14 AGREEMENT YOU APPROVE WITH REZONING.
11:49:16 AND THERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
11:49:17 AND THERE'S A LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
11:49:20 DO.
11:49:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
11:49:25 BONUS DENSITY WORKS SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN INCREASE THE
11:49:38 PARCELS THAT HE CAN PUT ON THAT PROPERTY.
11:49:44 >>CATHERINE COYLE: NOT THE PARCEL, TO IMPROVE THE DENSITY OR
11:49:46 INTENSITY ON THE PARCEL.
11:49:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:49:49 GO AHEAD.
11:49:50 IF IT'S 20 UNITS AND APPROVED FOR 18 THEY CAN PAY TO ADD THE
11:49:54 OTHER TWO?
11:49:55 >>CATHERINE COYLE: EXACTLY, ESSENTIALLY.
11:49:57 YES.
11:49:58 PAID BY -- A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THEY WOULD
11:50:02 CONTRIBUTE TO OR THEY WOULD BUILD A CONNECTION TO A TRAIL.
11:50:05 THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC LIST THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED INTO CODE
11:50:08 FOR WHAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUT MONEY TOWARD.
11:50:14 >>CATHERINE COYLE: OKAY.
11:50:24 AND THE DISCRETION AGAIN CITY COUNCIL HAS IS --
11:50:29 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE BONUS AGREEMENT RUNS WITH THAT.
11:50:30 IT NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION IN THE ZONING REQUEST TO
11:50:33 APPROVE OR DENY BASED ON THE --
11:50:37 >>YVONNE CAPIN: BASED ON DENSITY.
11:50:41 THE ADDED DENSITY.
11:50:43 ALL RIGHT.
11:50:44 THANK YOU.
11:50:46 >>CATHERINE COYLE: NO PROBLEM.
11:50:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE NEED A MOTION.
11:50:52 LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON
11:50:54 ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:50:55 ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
11:50:57 >> HI.
11:50:58 MY NAME IS LYNN.
11:50:59 I'M THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAND
11:51:02 USE CHAIR.
11:51:02 WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT NUMBER 2.
11:51:05 I COULD NOT GET ANYONE ON THE PHONE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.
11:51:08 SO I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:51:10 WE ARE NOT SURE, AND A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, 15% WOULD BE
11:51:15 A LOT MORE THAN 950 SQUARE FEET.
11:51:18 AND SO WE ARE CURIOUS AS TO WHY 950 WAS CHOSEN AND WE ARE
11:51:22 ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT INCLUDES, SAY, A
11:51:27 GARAGE APARTMENT.
11:51:29 AND WE JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS.
11:51:32 AND WE JUST -- WE DIDN'T GET ANY NOTIFICATION AT ALL THAT
11:51:37 THIS WAS COMING UP.
11:51:40 OUR PRESIDENT WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED
11:51:43 SINCE IT WOULD AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:51:45 THANK YOU.
11:51:49 >>CATHERINE COYLE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:51:57 ON ALL THINGS THAT COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
11:51:58 950 SQUARE FEET IS THE MAXIMUM SIZE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING
11:52:02 UNIT ALREADY IN THE CODE.
11:52:03 SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME ALONG AND BUILD SOMETHING
11:52:07 LARGER THAN THAT, AND WANTED TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING
11:52:12 UNIT IN IT, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE CONFLICT
11:52:15 BETWEEN -- OR THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT BETWEEN WHAT SOMEONE
11:52:19 THINKS THEY CAN BUILD VERSUS WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE MAXIMUM
11:52:21 FOR THAT DWELLING UNIT.
11:52:22 A LOT OF THEM COME IN AND WANT TO BE DWELLING UNIT, WHICH IS
11:52:25 TOTALLY ALLOWED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND THE SPECIAL USE ONE.
11:52:28 THE REASON THE PROVISION WAS PUT IN.
11:52:30 BUT THE CAP IS 950.
11:52:31 SO WE JUST WANT TO AVOID HAVING ANY CONFLICT BETWEEN THOSE
11:52:36 ON WHAT IS ULTIMATELY BUILT.
11:52:38 AGAIN, THE UNDERLYING RULES OF ALL DISTRICTS, THAT MOST OF
11:52:42 YOU PROBABLY LIVE IN, ARE RS-50, RS-60, RS-75, IS 15% OF THE
11:52:47 MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF THE DISTRICT.
11:52:50 SO IF YOU ARE IN RS-50 YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED 750 SQUARE FEET.
11:52:54 IF YOU ARE IN RS-60, YOU ARE ALLOWED 900 SQUARE FEET.
11:52:58 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS THAT EXTRA 50 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE THEY
11:53:01 ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
11:53:03 SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE 15% TIED
11:53:07 TO EXISTING LOT SIZE, WHATEVER SIZE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, UP TO
11:53:12 950 TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GO ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD.
11:53:16 A HYBRID APPROACH ESSENTIALLY TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T EXCEED
11:53:19 WHAT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL DWELLING UNITS
11:53:22 BUT ALSO TRYING TO KEEP IN LINE WITH T REST OF THE CITY AS
11:53:25 MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
11:53:28 WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION WORKSHOP.
11:53:32 ANYTHING COUNCIL THAT DOES TO TRANSMIT, WE HAVE SCHEDULED
11:53:34 ONE FOR JUNE 4th, 6:00.
11:53:41 JUNE 4th AT 6:00 IN OUR BUILDING WHICH WE NORMALLY HOLD
11:53:44 ONCE WE KNOW WHAT COUNCIL TRANSMITS WILL HOLD A PUBLIC
11:53:47 INFORMATION MEETING IN OUR BUILDING, 6:00 FOR ANYONE TO COME
11:53:50 FOR A WALK WITH THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS TO TALK ABOUT AFTER
11:53:53 WE KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU ARE ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD.
11:53:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW DO YOU MARKET THAT WORKSHOP?
11:53:59 >> IT WILL BE IN THE NEXT ISSUE OF TAMPA -- COME OUT NEXT
11:54:03 WEEK AND WE PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.
11:54:06 AND THEN I HAVE A HUGE E-MAIL LIST AND WE SEND IT THROUGH
11:54:11 THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP AS WELL AND SHE SENDS OUT AN E-MAIL
11:54:14 BLAST ONCE WE HAVE A CURRENT DATE AND A FIRM LIST OF WHAT IT
11:54:16 IS THAT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:54:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: MAKE SURE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS GETS THAT.
11:54:21 >>CATHERINE COYLE: YES.
11:54:22 THEY ARE ON THE LIST.
11:54:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD ASK.
11:54:26 DOES THAT HELP EXPLAIN WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO?
11:54:29 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] I CAN FIND OUT.
11:54:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:54:40 4?
11:54:41 >> MOVE --
11:54:47 >> SECOND.
11:54:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:54:49 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:54:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:54:51 OPPOSED?
11:54:52 I GUESS THAT'S IT.
11:54:53 IS THAT IT?
11:54:59 SO WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
11:55:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MR. CHAIR.
11:55:08 WITH REGARDS TO PROPOSED CHANGES IN SECTION 10.03, I WANT
11:55:12 OUR HR DEPARTMENT TO COME GIVE A PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE
11:55:15 TRAININGS BEING PRESENTLY DONE TO ADDRESS OUR EMPLOYEES
11:55:18 BEING EDUCATED ON DIVERSITY AND PLEURALISM IN THE WORKPLACE
11:55:20 AND HOW IMPLICIT BIASED TRAINING TO MEET CORPORATE INTO THAT
11:55:25 TRAINING.
11:55:25 I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR FRIENDS WITH
11:55:28 POLICE AND FIRE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE TRAINING MEMBERS
11:55:30 OF THEIR DEPARTMENT ON THE SUBJECT, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR
11:55:32 THIS TO BE DONE ON JUNE 21st, IF TIME PERMITS.
11:55:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:55:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
11:55:40 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:55:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:43 OPPOSED?
11:55:45 MR. MIRANDA.
11:55:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A COUPLE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:55:48 A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:55:51 DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE RECOGNIZING 2018 NATIONAL
11:55:57 GARBAGEMAN AND WOMEN DAY, TO BE PRESENTED COMMENDATION AT
11:56:03 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON JUNE 7th.
11:56:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: MO GOT A MOTIONS FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:56:07 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:56:08 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:56:09 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:56:11 OPPOSED?
11:56:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE OH A SHOUTOUT
11:56:15 TO THE 7 INDIVIDUALS WHO BECAME CITIZENS OF THE UNITED
11:56:18 STATES AND TO MAKE THE SCHOOL CITIZENSHIP PROGRAM.
11:56:21 THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE REQUIRED TO ATTEND CLASSES AND TESTED
11:56:24 IN ENGLISH, EACH OF THEM RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE AND AMERICAN
11:56:29 FLAG IN CELEBRATION THIS PAST TUESDAY AT JEFFERSON HIGH
11:56:32 SCHOOL AND LATER ON I'LL MAKE ANOTHER DATE A MOTION TO GIVE
11:56:37 PAM ELLIS WHO HAS BEEN RUNNING THAT PROGRAM ALONG WITH HER
11:56:40 TEACHERS FOR SOME TIME, BUT I WILL DO THAT LATER ON.
11:56:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:56:44 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:56:45 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:56:47 OPPOSED?
11:56:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOTHING.
11:56:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE THING.
11:56:53 A PUBLIC SERVICE FROM ACROSS THE BAY, PINELLAS COUNTY
11:56:57 COMMISSIONER JOHN MORRONI WHO LOST HIS FIGHT AGAINST CANCER
11:57:01 ON SUNDAY.
11:57:02 JOHN WAS A FORCE OF NATURE, FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE WHO
11:57:04 WAS A CHAMPION OF PROGRESSIVE ISSUES, WHICH WASN'T A POPULAR
11:57:09 THING TO DO ESPECIALLY IN THE LATE 90s.
11:57:12 OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH HIS WIFE EILEEN AND SON MIKE.
11:57:17 HIS FUNERAL WILL BE ST. JOHNS CATHOLIC CHURCH, 82ND AVENUE,
11:57:22 ST. PETE BEACH.
11:57:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
11:57:26 >>HARRY COHEN: I DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE TAMPA BAY
11:57:28 LIGHTNING ON A WONDERFUL SEASON AND CONVEY OUR APPRECIATION
11:57:32 TO THEM AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THEM AGAIN OUT ON THE
11:57:35 ICE.
11:57:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: REQUESTING A REFUND.
11:57:43 (LAUGHTER).
11:57:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU KNOW, MR. COHEN SAID IT RIGHT ABOUT THE
11:57:48 LIGHTNING.
11:57:49 I KNOW THAT MRS. SHARP WHO WORKS FOR MRS. CAPIN COULDN'T
11:57:58 COME TODAY.
11:57:59 BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS WEEKEND IS MEMORIAL DAY.
11:58:01 MAKE SURE THAT YOU REMEMBER THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PASSED,
11:58:04 THAT HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY, AND TODAY I THINK
11:58:11 THAT THE EXAMPLE THAT THE FOLKS THAT CAME HERE, WITH THEIR
11:58:15 CHILDREN, TO REALLY EMPHASIZE WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON
11:58:19 BAYSHORE, AND EVERY OTHER STREET IN TAMPA IN ORDER TO MAKE
11:58:23 IT SAFER.
11:58:23 I STILL HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING.
11:58:25 AND WE HAVE TRIED TO TALK TO THE POLICE TO FIND OUT ABOUT
11:58:27 THE WOMAN THAT WAS KILLED ON 40th AND HANLON.
11:58:32 I HAVE HEARD NOTHING YET.
11:58:33 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING IN THE PRESS.
11:58:34 IT'S A DISAPPOINTMENT.
11:58:35 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHAT HAPPENED ON BAYSHORE WAS EXTREMELY
11:58:38 IMPORTANT AND SAD.
11:58:40 AND WE JUST GOT WORD THAT THE TODDLER PROBABLY WILL NOT LIVE
11:58:44 OR HAS ALREADY DIED.
11:58:45 BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CITY,
11:58:50 WE TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE CITY, IT'S EVERYWHERE.
11:58:52 IT'S NOT JUST ONE STREET.
11:58:54 AND WE SAW THAT YEARS AGO ON 43rd AND HILLSBOROUGH.
11:58:59 WE SAW IT AND WE TOOK ACTION AT THAT TIME.
11:59:01 AND WE WILL ALWAYS TAKE ACTION.
11:59:02 I THINK WE ALL KNOW, ALL OF US ARE IN AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF
11:59:06 WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
11:59:07 SO THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:59:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:59:10 I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MOTION AND WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO
11:59:20 PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER FOR THEIR
11:59:30 HUMANITARIAN SERVICES, PRESENTED ON JUNE 7th AT 9:00
11:59:36 A.M.
11:59:36 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
11:59:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:59:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:59:42 ANY OPPOSED?
11:59:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: CORRECTION.
11:59:47 I NOTICE WE HAVE AGENDA ADJOURN TO 5:45 P.M.
11:59:50 IS IT 5:45?
11:59:52 >> YES.
11:59:58 FOR ETHAN, THE EAGLE SCOUT.
12:00:05 I GOT A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:00:06 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:00:08 OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.
12:00:15
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