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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 7, 2018
9:00 A.M. SESSION

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08:59:39 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
09:03:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD MORNING.
09:03:53 WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
09:03:55 AND AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO YIELD TO COUNCILMAN COHEN.
09:03:58 >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:04:02 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:04:03 IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME RABBI RICHARD BIRNHOLZ TO GIVE
09:04:08 OUR INVOCATION, THE SENIOR RABBI AND HE WILL BE RETIRING
09:04:13 AFTER 31 YEARS OF SERVICE AT THE END OF JUNE.
09:04:17 THIS CITY COUNCIL GAVE HIM A COMMENDATION AT THE END OF
09:04:20 APRIL AT THE SPECIAL SERVICE AND AT THAT TIME WE INVITED HIM
09:04:22 TO COME BACK FOR ONE LAST INVOCATION BEFORE HIS RETIREMENT.
09:04:27 SO GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME.
09:04:29 PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE

09:04:31 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:32 >> AND MANY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:04:36 IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PROCLAMATION.
09:04:39 AND I WILL ALWAYS TREASURE IT.
09:04:41 LET US PRAY.
09:04:43 OUR GOD, GOD OF OUR HUMANITY, IN THESE DAYS WHEN THERE ARE
09:04:47 ALL TOO MANY PEOPLE IN TOO MUCH OF A HURRY GOING INTO MANY
09:04:53 DIRECTIONS, WE WELCOME SUCH A MOMENT AS THIS WHEN TOGETHER
09:04:57 WITH EACH OTHER WE CAN PAUSE AND TAKE A DEEP SPIRITUAL
09:05:00 BREATH.
09:05:02 AT THIS GATHERING OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, WE PRAY THAT THE
09:05:05 COMMITMENT TO RACE BIGOTRY, ABOLISH POVERTY AND END
09:05:12 INJUSTICE WILL ALWAYS BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR SACRED
09:05:16 AGENDAS.
09:05:16 WE THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR THE VISION AND
09:05:19 FORESIGHT WHICH THEY BRING TO THEIR PUBLIC TASK.
09:05:22 LET THEM KNOW THE REWARD OF THEIR SUCCESS AND HELP THEM FEEL
09:05:29 OUR GRATITUDE FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MAKE OWN OUR BEHALF.
09:05:33 HELP THEM TO MAKE LIGHT OF OBSTACLES AND RETURN CRITICISM TO
09:05:37 CONSTRUCTIVE ENDS.
09:05:39 KEEP THEM EVER CONSCIOUS OF THE HIGH PURPOSE TO WHICH THEY
09:05:41 HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES.
09:05:44 AT THIS TIME OF GROWTH, BE WITH ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.
09:05:49 GIVE US EASE OF MIND AND GREAT COURAGE TO ENDURE WHATEVER
09:05:53 OBSTACLES MAY COME OUR WAY.

09:05:55 LET US KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN, WE GIVE
09:05:59 THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF HELP BY BEING HERE FOR EACH OTHER.
09:06:03 BLESSED ARE YOU, O GOD.
09:06:07 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:06:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
09:06:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
09:06:30 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
09:06:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:06:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
09:06:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:06:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
09:06:39 ALL RIGHT.
09:06:39 BEFORE WE DO THE AGENDA, WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS.
09:06:44 ONE FOR ITEM NUMBER 36 AND NUMBER 59 TO BE PULLED FROM THE
09:06:48 AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.
09:06:49 CAN I GET A MOTION?
09:06:50 >> SO MOVED.
09:06:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
09:06:53 WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?
09:06:57 OKAY.
09:06:58 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
09:06:59 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
09:07:01 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
09:07:03 OKAY.
09:07:03 WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY AND THE FIRST ONE WILL BE MR.

09:07:07 MIRANDA.
09:07:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
09:07:21 IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION,
09:07:25 COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE ALL
09:07:29 360,000-SOME THAT LIVE IN THIS GREAT CITY OF OURS AND THESE
09:07:36 INDIVIDUALS DO SOMETHING THAT IF THEY DO NOT DO THEIR JOB
09:07:40 YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS AND
09:07:43 LETTERS AND KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR YOU WOULD GET BECAUSE
09:07:45 WITHOUT THEM YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A CITY.
09:07:48 THEY ARE HARD WORKING.
09:07:49 THEY WORK IN THE RAIN.
09:07:50 THEY WORK IN THE SNOW.
09:07:53 THEY WORK IN THE HEAT.
09:07:54 THEY WORK IN EVERY CONDITION YOU CAN THINK OF.
09:07:58 THEY PICK UP ALL THE DEBRIS AFTER THE STORM AND THEY WORK
09:08:01 DILIGENTLY, AND FOR THAT IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO PRESENT A
09:08:04 COMMENDATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE AND
09:08:07 ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT FOR THE 2018 NATIONAL GARBAGE MEN
09:08:11 AND WOMEN DAY OF THE YEAR.
09:08:14 AND WITHOUT THEM, WE WOULD ALL STINK.
09:08:19 (LAUGHTER)
09:08:24 >> MARK WILFORK, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
09:08:39 I'M HERE WITH MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE
09:08:42 SAY THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE WORK OF THE HARD WORKING
09:08:47 MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE EFFORTS THEY PUT

09:08:50 FORTH ON A DAILY BASIS TO KEEP THE CITY CLEAN.
09:08:52 YOU SEE THE DEDICATION AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE HERE
09:08:55 FROM THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE BROUGHT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WITH
09:08:58 US THIS TIME SO I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH
09:09:01 EVERYONE'S NAME BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF THE FACT
09:09:03 THAT WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR YOUR PATIENCE DURING THE
09:09:06 STORM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT HURRICANE IRMA BLESSED US WITH.
09:09:11 (LAUGHTER)
09:09:11 WE ARE CERTAINLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
09:09:13 BUT OF ALL THE FOLKS HERE THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, I WOULD
09:09:17 LIKE TO BRING FARTHER BE MR. RISHAY HARDY.
09:09:21 YOU ALL CALL MYSELF AND BRAD BAIRD.
09:09:25 BUT DURING THE STORMS, MR. HARDY WAS THE ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY
09:09:29 WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTORS, HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND
09:09:32 MAKING SURE THAT THE SERVICES WERE DELIVERED AS SCHEDULED.
09:09:35 SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MR. HARDY AS WELL AS ALL THE
09:09:38 OTHER OUTSTANDING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT KEEP
09:09:40 TAMPA CITY CLEAN ON A DAILY BASIS.
09:09:43 ONCE AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU.
09:09:45 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:09:46 >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:53 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH I
09:09:56 HEAR CONSTANTLY HOW MUCH THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITIZEN
09:09:59 APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
09:10:01 IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

09:10:02 OUR OFFICES GET CALLED ALL THE TIME ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT
09:10:05 GOES ON.
09:10:06 AND INEVITABLY WHEN THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH SOLID WASTE, WE
09:10:10 HEAR BACK AND RESOLVE THAT PEOPLE ARE PLEASED, AND THEY ARE
09:10:14 REALLY GRATEFUL AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING.
09:10:17 I WENT OUT WITH SOME OF YOU RECENTLY EARLY IN THE MORNING,
09:10:21 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED ABOUT WAS HOW OFTEN
09:10:24 CONTRACTORS AND PEOPLE DOING WORK IN THE CITY BLOCK THE
09:10:29 RECEPTACLE SO YOU ARE UNABLE TO ACTUALLY GET YOUR WORK DONE
09:10:33 AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO
09:10:37 REMEMBER WHEN THEY SEE THOSE RECEPTACLES OUT THERE NOT TO
09:10:40 PARK IN FRONT OF THEM SO EVERYBODY CAN GET THEIR SERVICE.
09:10:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:43 >> WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:10:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: WHERE IS LEROY?
09:10:49 >> LEROY IS TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS.
09:10:52 HE'S A LITTLE CAMERA SHY.
09:10:54 BUT WE WILL GET THEM DOWN EVENTUALLY.
09:10:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT ALL OF YOU -- AND MARK,
09:11:01 YOU ARE TERRIFIC AT ANSWERING OUR PHONE CALLS, AND RISHAY,
09:11:05 THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE YOU ARE DOING THE WORK THAT MARK
09:11:07 IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
09:11:09 (LAUGHTER)
09:11:10 BECAUSE ANYTIME I WOULD CALL MARK AND GET YOUR TEAM
09:11:14 ENERGIZED WHENEVER WE HAVE SOMETHING ALONG THE SIDE OF THE

09:11:17 ROAD OR IN FACT WHEN THE RAIN IS HERE HE CALLED ME ON A
09:11:23 SATURDAY AFTERNOON BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF
09:11:26 THAT NEEDS TO GET PICKED UP.
09:11:28 AND I CALLED MARK.
09:11:29 MARK GOT THE TEAM ENERGIZED.
09:11:31 THE THING WAS DONE BY THE END OF THE DAY.
09:11:33 IT WAS A GREAT HELP.
09:11:35 AND IT'S TERRIFIC TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE THERE ALL THE TIME,
09:11:38 24/7 WHENEVER WE CALL, YOU ARE READY TO HELP OUT AND READY
09:11:41 TO PICK UP AND READY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY STAYS
09:11:44 CLEAN.
09:11:44 KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
09:11:45 MARK, MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR TEAM HAPPY.
09:11:48 (LAUGHTER)
09:11:48 AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:11:51 >> THANK YOU.
09:11:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THAT PEOPLE DON'T
09:11:59 REALIZE WHAT YOU ALL DO IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS JOBS IN
09:12:04 ANY CITY, BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DO.
09:12:07 AND I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU FOR KEEPING YOUR PEOPLE SAFE AND
09:12:11 KEEPING THE CITY SPOTLESS.
09:12:14 THANK YOU.
09:12:14 >> THANK YOU.
09:12:17 THANK YOU.
09:12:20 ONCE AGAIN, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

09:12:24 THANK YOU.
09:12:26 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:12:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OUR CHAIR FRANK REDDICK WILL BE MAKING THE
09:12:59 PRESENTATION ON ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:13:01 CHAIR REDDICK.
09:13:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD MORNING.
09:13:28 AND MY FRIENDS FROM TAMPA KAPPA ALPHA PSI WILL COME UP.
09:13:53 IT'S A PLEASURE TO STAND HERE AND RECOGNIZE KAPPA ALPHA PSI
09:14:00 FRATERNITY, TAMPA CHAPTER.
09:14:03 THEY ARE CELEBRATING 90 YEARS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:14:05 AND I DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND THIS LONG.
09:14:11 (LAUGHTER)
09:14:13 BUT I AM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT.
09:14:15 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU FOR
09:14:18 THE 90 YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:14:21 THE GOOD THINGS YOU ARE DOING, THE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM,
09:14:27 COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND YOU HAVE BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN
09:14:30 BRINGING BACK CHANGES, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND I AM
09:14:41 DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU.
09:14:44 AND LET ME JUST READ SOME OF IT.
09:14:47 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPLAUDS AND CONGRATULATIONS YOU FOR 09
09:14:50 YEARS OF SPIRITUAL, SOCIAL, INTELLECTUAL LEADERSHIP
09:14:54 INITIATIVE IN OUR GREAT CITY.
09:14:57 THE TAMPA LEAD PROGRAM, BLACK AND WHITE BALL.
09:15:03 YOU KNOW, THE BLACK AND WHITE BALL, YOU NEED TO GO TO THAT.

09:15:08 I HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.
09:15:09 YOU WILL ENJOY THAT.
09:15:10 SCHOLARSHIP AND SERVICE PROJECTS.
09:15:16 THE WORK WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, ABOUT YOUR COMMITMENT TO
09:15:26 SERVICE.
09:15:27 THE TAMPA ALUMNI CHAPTER OF KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY, THE
09:15:34 CALL TO DUTY, AND RESPECT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:15:37 WE EXTEND BEST WISHES AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND YOUR
09:15:40 COMMITMENT OF ACHIEVEMENT IN EVERY FIELD OF HUMAN ENDEAVOR.
09:15:43 PLEASE CONTINUE TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA A BETTER PLACE TO
09:15:46 LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
09:15:50 ON BEHALF OF ALL MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE
09:15:53 TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU.
09:15:55 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:15:55 >> GREETINGS, CITY COUNCIL.
09:16:01 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA ALUMNAE CHAPTER WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK
09:16:05 YOU INFORM THIS PRESTIGIOUS COMMENDATION AND RECOGNITION OF
09:16:08 THE IMPACT THAT OUR CHAPTERS HAVE ON THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
09:16:13 THE COUNTY OF HILLSBOROUGH.
09:16:15 WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING HERE IN ANOTHER 09 YEARS TO RECEIVE
09:16:19 ANOTHER COMMENDATION.
09:16:21 SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND GOD BLESS YOU.
09:16:24 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER
09:16:50 3 AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION JOINTLY BY YOU AND BY

09:16:53 COUNCILWOMAN CAPONE.
09:16:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER.
09:17:11 HOW DO YOU DO?
09:17:14 THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
09:17:20 IT STARTED RIGHT HERE IN THIS CHAMBER WHEN WE START TALKING
09:17:24 ABOUT FORTUNE STREET BRIDGE, AND MS. ROYSTER ABLE TO HEAR
09:17:29 ABOUT IT AND TOOK THE LEAD TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT.
09:17:34 AND IT HAS RECEIVED QUITE A FEW COMMENDATIONS,
09:17:39 PROCLAMATIONS.
09:17:40 BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE WOULD BE IN THE COUNCIL
09:17:48 CHAMBER.
09:17:49 THIS WHOLE PROJECT WAS INITIATED RIGHT HERE IN THE CHAMBERS.
09:17:53 MS. ROYSTER, WE ARE HONORED TODAY TO PRESENT THIS
09:17:56 COMMENDATION TO YOU AND ACKNOWLEDGE GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER FOR
09:18:03 HER HUMANITARIAN EFFORT IN REVITALIZING THE FORTUNE TAYLOR
09:18:11 NAMESAKE, FORTUNE STREET BRIDGE. THIS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN
09:18:14 DONE WITHOUT YOUR EFFORT IN LEADING THIS PROJECT.
09:18:17 AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL AND RECOGNIZE YOU.
09:18:23 AND WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS COMMENDATION AND SAY THANK
09:18:27 YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:18:30 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:33 >> THANK YOU.
09:18:39 GOOD MORNING.
09:18:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:18:42 IT MEANS A LOT TO BE ME FROM MY CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE,

09:18:46 AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
09:18:48 I WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR YOUR FORESIGHT
09:18:53 AND YOUR COURAGE, MR. MANISCALCO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:59 IT'S BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE.
09:19:02 I WON'T SAY TOO MUCH THIS MORNING.
09:19:05 THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
09:19:12 THE STRAZ IS LOOKING AT MAKING A PRODUCTION ABOUT FORTUNE
09:19:15 TAYLOR'S LIFE.
09:19:16 PEOPLE ARE COMING FORWARD TO TELL THEIR STORIES.
09:19:18 SO THAT MAKES TAMPA THAT MUCH MORE RICHER.
09:19:21 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE MORE OF THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
09:19:24 SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:27 I'M MOVED.
09:19:28 AND I'M HUMBLED.
09:19:29 AND EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT DAY.
09:19:34 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU FOR BEING PERSISTENT.
09:19:43 I DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BACK WHEN WE WERE DOING THE
09:19:45 CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC IMPACT AND CULTURAL
09:19:49 ASSETS.
09:19:50 ERSULA ODOM WAS A MEMBER OF THAT TEAM THAT MOVED THE BALL.
09:19:57 THAT NOW WE HAVE A CULTURAL ASSETS COMMISSION WITH THE
09:20:01 COUNTY, WHICH IS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS $2
09:20:04 MILLION IN IT.
09:20:05 AND I WANT TO BRING YOU -- SHE WAS SO INSPIRATIONAL ON THIS

09:20:17 TEAM.
09:20:18 HER INPUT WAS RIGHT ON.
09:20:20 AND I AM SO GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS HERE.
09:20:26 SO I AM GOING TO READ JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
09:20:30 THE CITY COUNCIL HONORS AND RECOGNIZES MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA
09:20:35 CITY COUNCIL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
09:20:36 THE PURPOSE SHALL BE -- THIS IS THE MISSION.
09:20:40 THE PURPOSE AND FUNCTION.
09:20:42 COMMITTEE SHALL BE TO REVIEW, STUDY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
09:20:45 TO CITY COUNCIL TO ASSIST IN CITY COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION
09:20:49 THE MUNICIPAL NEEDS AND PLANNING WITH RESPECT TO HAVING A
09:20:55 UNIQUE CULTURAL ASSET.
09:20:56 THAT'S WHERE YOU CAME IN.
09:21:00 THAT ATTRACTS AND PROVIDES THE ENVIRONMENT CONDUCIVE TO
09:21:02 ECONOMIC GROWTH THEREBY ENHANCING COMMITTEE GROWTH WITHIN
09:21:05 OUR COMMUNITY.
09:21:07 AND AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS TEAM WAS THERE THROUGH THICK AND
09:21:12 THIN, AND THERE WERE VERY THIN TIMES.
09:21:16 I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING PART OF IT.
09:21:19 AND I SO APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US TODAY AND BEING ABLE
09:21:23 TO PRESENT THIS HERE AT COUNCIL.
09:21:27 THANK YOU.
09:21:36 THANK YOU, ERSULA.
09:21:38 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:21:39 >> I FEEL LIKE A FAN OF YOU ALL, BECAUSE TO GET HERE, AND TO

09:21:50 SEE YOU AND TO REALIZE I HAVE BEEN HONORED BY YOU, BUT I
09:21:58 WOULD LIKE TO SAY, SOMETIMES I WONDER WHY I DO WHAT I DO,
09:22:03 AND I GO IN SO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, IN WORKING ON THE
09:22:10 VIDEOS FOR HISTORY, DOING THE LEGACY, BEING ON THE COMMITTEE
09:22:15 WITH YOLIE AND SEEING HOW SHE OPERATES, AND BEING THERE TO
09:22:20 ENGAGE AND BE A PART OF HISTORY AS SHE MAKES IT, AND WRITING
09:22:26 A BOOK ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS IN TAMPA AND HAVING A ROLE
09:22:30 WITH GLORIA WHERE WE HAVE CREATED A NEW ROLE SO WHEN SHE
09:22:36 DOES SOMETHING I'M HER SIDE KICK AND WHEN I DO SOMETHING
09:22:40 SHE'S MY SIDEKICK.
09:22:41 BUT WHAT I REALIZE THAT AS FAR AS CULTURAL ASSETS, AND
09:22:45 ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, I WILL DO ANYTHING TO
09:22:50 COLLECT, PRESERVE AND SHARE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, OR
09:22:55 HISTORY IN GENERAL, THE CULTURAL ASSETS IN GENERAL, BY ANY
09:22:59 MEANS NECESSARY.
09:23:00 AND ANY FORM NECESSARY.
09:23:03 BECAUSE I LIKE DOING IT.
09:23:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND WE LIKE YOU DOING IT.
09:23:08 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:23:13 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:23:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND IF WE ARE OUR MAYOR'S CORPS BACK HERE.
09:23:21 HAVE THEY ALREADY INTERVIEWED YOU ABOUT MADAME FORTUNE
09:23:24 TAYLOR?
09:23:26 NO?
09:23:26 MAYOR'S CORP AND THE FOLKS THAT FILMING US NOW TOO, YOU HAVE

09:23:30 TO GET GLORIA JEAN AND PUT HER ON TELEVISION ON YOUR SHOW TO
09:23:35 TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE'S DONE AND TO RECOGNIZE ON TELEVISION
09:23:37 THE HISTORY OF MADAME FORTUNE TAYLOR.
09:23:40 IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD OF HER, TALK TO MS. ROYSTER.
09:23:44 SHE WILL TELL YOU.
09:23:45 BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT HISTORY.
09:23:46 IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
09:23:48 AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL THE YOUNG FOLKS THAT ARE
09:23:51 HERE SHOULD LEARN.
09:23:52 SO GLORIA JEAN, YOU HAVE GOT ONE MORE THING TO DO.
09:23:55 YOU HAVE NAMED IT.
09:23:56 NOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP TELLING THE STORY.
09:23:58 AND I THINK THAT IF YOU CAN DO THAT AND GET ON TELEVISION
09:24:00 AND BE INTERVIEWED, I THINK IT WILL REALLY HELP THE REST OF
09:24:03 THE CITY OF TAMPA UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR.
09:24:07 AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:24:11 MS. CAPIN, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE THE GAVEL NOW.
09:24:14 YOU ARE THE IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR.
09:24:15 I ASSUME YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER FROM HERE.
09:24:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I WAS
09:24:23 PART OF THAT.
09:24:24 THEY INCLUDED ME AND MY STORY ON THE FORTUNE STREET
09:24:31 INTERNATIONAL BANK THAT MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS ONE OF THE
09:24:35 FOUNDERS AND THEY INCLUDED.
09:24:36 THAT AND IT TURNS OUT THAT MS. FORTUNE TAYLOR'S HOME SAT OR

09:24:41 PROPERTY SAT WHERE THE BANK WAS DEVELOPED.
09:24:43 AND WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT TIE WAS THERE?
09:24:47 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
09:24:49 I DID NOT KNOW THAT PART OF IT.
09:24:51 AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID.
09:24:53 IT WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE PROCESS AND YOU DID NOT GIVE UP.
09:24:58 SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
09:25:01 OKAY.
09:25:01 HERE YOU GO.
09:25:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
09:25:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE HOT POTATO.
09:25:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
09:25:10 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:25:13 THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
09:25:16 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
09:25:19 SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS NOT SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
09:25:22 AND FOR EXAMPLE, ITEMS 4 THROUGH 8 ON THE AGENDA ARE
09:25:26 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION THAT ARE
09:25:29 NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
09:25:34 IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS PUBLIC HEARING
09:25:37 YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING TODAY'S MEETING.
09:25:40 SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
09:25:42 PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NONAGENDA MATTERS.
09:25:45 EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
09:25:48 PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS

09:25:52 REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
09:25:54 A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
09:25:58 TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
09:26:01 THE CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
09:26:05 ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
09:26:08 THANK YOU.
09:26:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:26:10 BEFORE WE START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, I NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE
09:26:18 MAYOR'S YOUTH GROUP THAT ARE HERE.
09:26:31 IS SOMEONE THERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF?
09:26:50 >> MY NAME IS MALLIE AND I BROUGHT THE TAMPA'S YOUTH CORPS
09:26:57 WITH ME 2018.
09:26:59 WE APPRECIATE HOW WELCOME EVERYONE ALWAYS MADE US FEEL.
09:27:02 AND COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, WE WROTE THAT DOWN TO DO THAT
09:27:05 INTERVIEW.
09:27:05 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING US FEEL WELCOME.
09:27:09 THANK YOU.
09:27:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:27:17 LET'S TAKE STARTING WITH THE FIRST ROW.
09:27:20 COME AND STATE YOUR NAME AND -- NO, NO, NO.
09:27:40 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:27:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE'S NO MIKE.
09:27:50 IT'S RIGHT THERE.
09:27:50 >> MY NAME IS RACE STOMA.
09:27:59 MIRANDA DON'T LOOK UP.

09:28:00 YOU LOOK GOOD.
09:28:01 >> THANK YOU.
09:28:02 NEXT.
09:28:02 >> MY NAME IS DEVIN.
09:28:07 >> I GO TO ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:28:14 >> I'M AMY AND I'M A 10th GRADER AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
09:28:20 >> I'M EMILY.
09:28:22 AND I'M A SENIOR.
09:28:24 >> I'M CHRISTOPHER BALLY A JUNIOR.
09:28:31 I'M CHRISTY AND I ATTEND TAMPA TECH.
09:28:35 >> I AM A 10th GRADER AT BROOKS DEBARTOLO HIGH SCHOOL.
09:28:41 >> I'M JULIA HOLMES.
09:28:44 I'M A 10th GRADER AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
09:28:46 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:28:50 I'M BILLY COUNSEL AND I'M AN ELEVENTH GRADER AT JEFFERSON.
09:28:54 >> I'M ASHLEY AND I GO TO --
09:29:01 >> MY NAME IS ALAN.
09:29:06 I'M A JUNIOR AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
09:29:07 >> I'M KAITLYN.
09:29:11 I'M A JUNIOR AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:29:13 >> I'M LAUREN JONES, A JUNIOR AT ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES.
09:29:20 >> I'M A JUNIOR AT TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.
09:29:23 >> I'M A 10th GRADER AT TAMPA TECH.
09:29:31 >> I'M GREG DAVIS.
09:29:33 I'M AT JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.

09:29:36 >> I'M TRACE, A SENIOR AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:29:42 >> MY NAME IS MARK US.
09:29:45 I'M ARISING SENIOR AT HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
09:29:48 >> MY NAME IS KELLY AND I'M A JUNIOR AT PEPIN ACADEMY.
09:29:54 >> MY NAME IS RISH AND I'M ARISING JUNIOR AT HILLSBOROUGH
09:30:00 HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:00 >> I'M PATEL AND I'M A JUNIOR.
09:30:06 >> I'M CAYLEE.
09:30:09 I'M A JUNIOR AT CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:12 >> I'M MELISSA AND I'M A SENIOR AT CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:17 >> MY NAME IS SAMANTHA.
09:30:20 I'M A SENIOR AT BROOKS DEBARTOLO.
09:30:22 >> I'M A SENIOR AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:28 >> I'M JOHN.
09:30:32 AND I'M A JUNIOR AT TEMPLE CREST.
09:30:37 >> I GO TO MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:40 >> MY NAME IS MAX.
09:30:43 AND I GO TO HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:45 >> MY NAME IS DAVE AND I GO TO MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:30:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:30:54 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL
09:30:58 OF YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST
09:31:00 WITH YOUR FUTURE, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING SOME
09:31:04 OF YOU SIT UP HERE WHERE WE ARE.
09:31:07 SO CONGRATULATIONS.

09:31:12 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:31:14 WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
09:31:29 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 SOUTH SHERILL.
09:31:32 SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
09:31:33 BUT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR MICROPHONES
09:31:38 AREN'T BEING PROJECTED.
09:31:40 SO IF THEY COULD BE RAISED, IT WOULD HELP.
09:31:51 I'M JUST GOING TO SAY A BE VERY FEW WORDS ABOUT THE TREE
09:31:55 ORDINANCE.
09:31:56 OF COURSE I AM PART OF T.H.A.N., PART OF BEACH PARK.
09:32:00 AND WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW
09:32:07 IN THE MAKING.
09:32:08 AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT IT'S HERE TODAY FOR FIRST
09:32:14 READING WITHOUT A WORKSHOP PREVIOUS TO IT, TO REALLY
09:32:18 EXPLAIN.
09:32:21 I TRIED TO READ IT AND SOMETIMES WHAT WE READ AND INTERPRET
09:32:24 IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT IS MEANT.
09:32:27 SO I AM HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL POSTPONES THIS OR MAKE SURE
09:32:37 THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC MEETING FOR US TO BE EXPLAINED THIS
09:32:40 ORDINANCE.
09:32:41 SO THAT WE REALLY AND TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS.
09:32:45 THANK YOU.
09:32:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:32:48 NEXT.
09:32:49 >> MENTEZMAT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:32:58 IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE.
09:32:59 IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TON SEE THE YOUTH.
09:33:01 IT WAS NICE SEEING ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE UP HERE THIS
09:33:03 MORNING.
09:33:06 IT'S CALLED ASPIRATION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BE AND WHAT YOU
09:33:09 WANT TO DO.
09:33:10 ONE THING AS A PARENT, I TEACH MY KIDS EVERY SINGLE DAY THE
09:33:14 MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS TO BE GOOD.
09:33:18 THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE.
09:33:21 AND I SAY THAT TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE BACK HERE ALSO.
09:33:23 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS TO BE GOOD.
09:33:28 HAVE CHARACTER.
09:33:31 ONE THING I AM ALSO GOING TO SAY TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE,
09:33:34 DON'T GROW UP OR DON'T A EXPIRE TO BE LIKE THIS CITY COUNCIL
09:33:38 RIGHT HERE.
09:33:39 DON'T GROW UP TO BE LIKE THEM.
09:33:41 LIKE NONE OF THEM.
09:33:43 BE NO CHARACTER.
09:33:45 ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NONE.
09:33:48 NO BACKBONE.
09:33:49 NO STAMINA.
09:33:52 IN A NOTHING FOR THE PEOPLE.
09:33:53 AND FOR OUR DISTRICT WHICH IS DISTRICT 5, THEY ARE ALWAYS
09:34:01 PUT IN JUST -- DON'T EVEN TALK BAD ABOUT THE GARBAGE PEOPLE.
09:34:06 THEY DO GOOD WORK IN THE CITY.

09:34:09 BUT FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL IN OUR DISTRICT TO ALWAYS PUT IN A
09:34:13 GARBAGE PERSON THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING, THAT DON'T REPRESENT
09:34:16 OUR AREA IN A WAY WHATSOEVER.
09:34:19 YOU CAN SEE SOMEBODY FROM OUR DISTRICT ON TV AND ALL THE
09:34:23 CHANNELS.
09:34:26 WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHICKENS.
09:34:29 WE NEED TO GET CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE
09:34:31 CHICKENS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
09:34:33 OUR WHOLE DISTRICT 5 LOOK LIKE GARBAGE AND THEY DON'T NEED
09:34:37 TO DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT.
09:34:38 THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHICKENS IN YBOR CITY.
09:34:41 $13 MILLION FOR ROBLES PARK.
09:34:48 12 MILLION.
09:34:50 ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND WHENEVER IT RAINS, AND NOW AN
09:34:56 ACCIDENT ISSUE AND THEY TRY TO MAKE A BIG ISSUE OUT OF THAT
09:34:59 AND AFRICAN KIDS GET KILLED ON 22ND AVENUE, 22ND STREET,
09:35:04 FLETCHER, AND NOTHING IS BEING SAID ABOUT THAT.
09:35:08 NOTHING.
09:35:10 DON'T GROW UP TO BE LIKE THESE INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT HAVE NO
09:35:13 COURAGE, NONE.
09:35:16 ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NONE.
09:35:19 YOU GOT A MAYOR THAT CALLS BLACK WOMEN BITCHES, AND NONE OF
09:35:24 THESE PEOPLE SAID NOTHING ABOUT IT.
09:35:27 NONE OF THEM.
09:35:28 AND TRADE TO ADMONISH ME FOR THE WAY I TALK AND THE WAY I

09:35:31 SPEAK AND THE WAY I LOOK AND WHAT I REPRESENT.
09:35:34 NONE OF THEM.
09:35:36 TRY TO TALK ABOUT THE CORPS AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO
09:35:40 BE -- STUPIDNESS.
09:35:43 IT'S A STUPID CITY COUNCIL.
09:35:45 NOW THEY TALK ABOUT CHICKENS IN YBOR CITY.
09:35:48 DOING THE SAME THING TO THE CHICKENS.
09:35:50 YOU CAN'T DO FOR THE CHICKENS WHAT YOU DID TO THE HOUSES,
09:35:52 BURN THEM DOWN, BURN THEM OUT.
09:35:55 [BELL SOUNDS]
09:35:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:35:57 >> GINA GRIMES WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL, WARD, HENDERSON
09:36:06 HERE THIS MORNING ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS
09:36:08 ASSOCIATION AND JOINING ME IS --
09:36:11 >> CHELSEA JOHNSON.
09:36:13 I'M DOWN IN BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL AND I'M WITH THE VOLUNTEER
09:36:18 GROUP "TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING" AND WE ARE BOTH HERE TO
09:36:20 JOINTLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONTINUE ITEM 4 ON YOUR AGENDA.
09:36:23 IT'S THE TREE ORDINANCE.
09:36:26 THERE IS A WORKSHOP ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 21st.
09:36:30 WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE YOU CONSIDER THIS COMPONENT
09:36:33 ALONG WITH THE MITIGATION COMPONENT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED
09:36:36 ABOUT WORKSHOP ON THE 21st.
09:36:37 >>HARRY COHEN: WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE NOW TO GO AHEAD AND
09:36:43 DO THAT, SINCE WE ARE PUTTING ON NOTICE THE OTHER PEOPLE

09:36:46 THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON IT?
09:36:48 SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THAT
09:36:50 ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM 4, TO JUNE 21st.
09:36:57 >> SECOND.
09:36:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN, SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
09:37:03 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
09:37:05 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
09:37:07 OPPOSED?
09:37:08 OKAY.
09:37:13 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:37:13 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:37:14 CONNIE BURTON, TAMPA.
09:37:17 LOOKING THROUGH THE AGENDA THIS MORNING, I AM INSPIRED
09:37:23 BECAUSE I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE.
09:37:25 AND IF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS CITY,
09:37:30 HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE THAT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD THEY CAN SEE
09:37:33 HOW THIS CITY WILL BECOME MORE --
09:37:38 WHAT IS HAPPENING MORE AND MORE AND NOT OPPOSED TO
09:37:41 DEVELOPMENT, NOT OPPOSED TO WHOEVER IS GOING TO LIVE WHERE.
09:37:43 BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A SEAMLESS CITY INSIDE OF THE CITY OF
09:37:47 TAMPA WHEN THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT IS CRYING OUT
09:37:51 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS BASED ON WORKING INCOME.
09:37:56 AND I AM JUST ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE
09:38:00 BOX, TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE THINKING THAT WILL NOT
09:38:08 PUSH POVERTY PEOPLE INTO RURAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE DOWNTOWN,

09:38:13 WATERFRONT AND DEVELOPMENT.
09:38:21 THE ONLY TIME YOU SEE AFRICAN PEOPLE DOWNTOWN IS BASED ON
09:38:25 SERVICE, BASED ON IF THEY WORK DOWN HERE.
09:38:28 SO AFFORDABILITY IS OUT.
09:38:30 AFFORDABILITY IS ALMOST OUT IN DOWNTOWN, WEST TAMPA AREA.
09:38:35 WE NEED CREATIVE THINKING TO BUILD IN EAST TAMPA SO WE CAN
09:38:41 SAY THAT AFRICAN PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE, CONTINUE TO LIVE IN
09:38:44 THIS CITY.
09:38:46 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:38:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.
09:38:51 ANYONE ELSE?
09:38:57 YOU MAY SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
09:38:58 >> MY NAME IS LORRAINE. I LIVE AT 216 COLUMBIA DRIVE IN
09:39:05 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SPEAK ON THE
09:39:08 TREE ORDINANCE.
09:39:11 PLEASE DENY ANY CHANGES TO THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT
09:39:17 CONSISTENT WITH TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND YOU NEED
09:39:24 SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT.
09:39:27 IT'S DIFFICULT NOW TO HAVE THE MAN ON THE STREET RECOGNIZE
09:39:34 WHAT THE LAST SPEAKER JUST INDICATED.
09:39:36 WE DO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN TAMPA.
09:39:40 BUT TO GET THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AND
09:39:44 MAKE PHONE CALLS OR VISIT TO YOUR OFFICES IS SOMETHING THAT
09:39:49 THE ON THE OTHER HAND CITIZEN DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TIME FOR
09:39:54 UNLESS THEY MAKE A GREAT EFFORT.

09:39:56 AND THAT'S REALLY AN IMPOSITION ON CITIZENSHIP.
09:40:03 THE THING I AM MOST CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE
09:40:07 IS THAT IT'S NOT YET THE SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE MADE OR BEING
09:40:14 MADE ON THE WORKSHOP ARE NOT YET WIDELY KNOWN.
09:40:19 SO I THINK WE SHOULD STAY WITH WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS WITH THE
09:40:23 IMAGINE 10-20 PLAN AND NOT GO FAR AFIELD WITH A BUILDER'S
09:40:31 SUGGESTION WHO OF COURSE HAS A GREAT ECONOMIC INTEREST.
09:40:41 THE STRUCTURE, THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHARACTER FOR WHO IS
09:40:45 REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
09:40:49 COMING WITH THE NEW FEDERAL GUIDELINES FOR THE AIRPORT?
09:40:56 THEY ARE NOT ENCLOSURE: I DON'T KNOW IF THE DIRECTOR OF
09:40:59 PARKS AND REC IS REPORTING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS
09:41:06 ARE OR VOICE VERSE.
09:41:07 A SO THERE'S WORK THAT CAN BE DONE FOR THE PUBLIC.
09:41:13 THANK YOU.
09:41:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:41:14 >> I AM SHARON ELLWOOD, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF TRENAM
09:41:23 LAW, AND I AM HERE TO REPRESENT OVER 100 BUSINESS
09:41:26 PROFESSIONALS IN OUR FIRM WHO ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY
09:41:28 DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
09:41:30 ITEM 82 ON YOUR AGENDA.
09:41:32 WITH NEW BUILDINGS ON THE HORIZON AND DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT
09:41:36 PLANNED, THERE IS TREMENDOUS NEED FOR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT,
09:41:39 TRAFFIC LANES, TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL
09:41:43 IMPROVEMENT.

09:41:43 FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A DESPERATE NEED FOR A LEFT TURN
09:41:46 SIGNAL GOING NORTH ON ASHLEY AT KENNEDY.
09:41:50 WITH THE COUNCIL TRAFFIC JAM, IT HAS BECOME MORE FREQUENT,
09:41:54 AND IS OFTEN UNPREDICTABLE IN ITS APPEARANCE.
09:41:57 I HAVE A FEW EXAMPLES.
09:42:00 MANY EMPLOYEES IN OUR FIRM TWO NIGHTS AGO WERE STUCK
09:42:03 EXISTING OUR PARKING GARAGE FOR OVER AN HOUR.
09:42:05 ONE PERSON SAT FOR 25 MINUTES WITHOUT MOVING.
09:42:08 A FEW WEEKS AGO, I ACTUALLY DID GET OUT OF THE GARAGE ON A
09:42:11 TIMELY BASIS BUT I SAT AS THE FIRST CAR AT THE ASHLEY
09:42:16 JACKSON LIGHT WAITING FIVE LIGHT TURNS BEFORE I COULD MOVE
09:42:19 AND TURN ON JACKSON.
09:42:22 I KNOW WHAT THEY MEANT TO ALL THE CARS BEHIND ME.
09:42:24 AND I HAVE MANY SUCH STORIES.
09:42:28 WE HAVE 40 MINUTE COMMUTE JUST IN OUR GARAGE.
09:42:31 FOR SIX MONTHS THE SAME STORY.
09:42:33 I COULD GO ON BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE PROBLEM.
09:42:36 WE HAVE LOST REVENUE BECAUSE OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE TO
09:42:38 ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC UNCERTAINTY AND LEAVE EARLY TO
09:42:42 ENSURE THAT THEY MAKE TO THE OUR AFTER-WORK BUSINESS
09:42:45 COMMITMENTS.
09:42:46 AND THESE ARE BILLABLE HOURS THAT ARE LOST AND NEVER
09:42:49 RECOVERABLE.
09:42:49 WE HAVE MIXED RECRUITING OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OUR
09:42:52 CANDIDATES ARE UNWILLING OR UNINTERESTED TO WORK IN DOWNTOWN

09:42:57 IN ITS PRESENT CONDITION.
09:42:58 WE HAVE STRESS ON OUR PERSONAL LIVES.
09:43:00 WE HAVE WE AFFECT CHILDREN AND FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY ARE
09:43:04 LATE FOR CHILD CARE PICKUP AND ARE MISSING PERSONAL
09:43:06 COMMITMENTS.
09:43:07 WE ALSO HAVE PERSONAL EXPENSES WHEN WE GIVE UP ON GETTING
09:43:11 OUT OF THE GARAGE TIMELY, AND WE UBER TO OUR AFTER-WORK
09:43:15 COMMITMENTS OR WE PAY THE LATE CHILD CARE FEES, AND WE HAVE
09:43:18 SAFETY CONCERNS, BECAUSE DUE TO THE INCREASED BEHAVIOR WE
09:43:23 HAVE PEOPLE NOW GOING DOWN THE WRONG WAY OF OUR GARAGE TO
09:43:26 TRY TO GET OUT QUICKLY.
09:43:27 AND THEN WE HAVE ANGRY PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE FINALLY GETTING
09:43:32 ON THE ROAD.
09:43:33 SO I COULD GO ON.
09:43:34 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED HELP.
09:43:36 WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS TO TAMPA THAT INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS TO
09:43:39 TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.
09:43:41 I WON'T ADDRESS THE LACK OF DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGES AND
09:43:44 THOSE CHALLENGES, BUT TAMPA IS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK, AND
09:43:48 IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, BUT IS INCREASINGLY BECOMING A
09:43:52 FRUSTRATING PLACE TO WORK.
09:43:53 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR CONCERNS.
09:43:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:43:57 ANYONE ON THIS SIDE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK?
09:44:00 YOU CAN COME UP.

09:44:01 >> KAREN GOSS, 2010 EAST PALM AVENUE IN YBOR CITY.
09:44:09 HAVE FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS NOW AND I HAD AN EXPERIENCE WITH A
09:44:15 ROOSTER.
09:44:16 ROOSTERS WON'T LET HIM IN THE PACK WHEN HE'S INJURED AND I
09:44:20 THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT LOVED THIS LITTLE ROOSTER.
09:44:25 CODE ENFORCEMENT PICKED HIM UP ON APRIL 25th AFTER CALLS
09:44:29 TO THE CITY MAYOR AS WELL AS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
09:44:31 THAT WAS ONE ROOSTER.
09:44:33 A LOT OF OUR RES CONTENTS LOVE THE ROOSTERS.
09:44:36 THEY ARE TAGGED AND BRANDED AND BUSINESSES AS WELL AS WE ASK
09:44:42 THAT YOU POSTPONE 81 SO THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE YCDC BUT
09:44:46 THE RESIDENTS DID GET TOGETHER AND SEE HOW WE CAN HANDLE
09:44:48 THIS.
09:44:49 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:44:49 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:44:54 MY NAME IS RICK, AND I RESIDE AT 1202 WEST CORAL STREET IN
09:44:59 RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS BUT I AM HERE THIS MORNING ACTUALLY AS
09:45:02 ALSO AN EMPLOYEE OF TRENAM LAW FIRM WHICH WAS JUST SPOKEN TO
09:45:06 YOU ABOUT AND WE HAVE A RECURRING PROBLEM WHERE WE CAN'T GET
09:45:10 OUT OF OUR GARAGE, FOR AT LOWEST 40 MINUTES, AND SIMPLY
09:45:15 FORCED NORTH ON ASHLEY, THAT GETS STOPPED UP BECAUSE IT'S A
09:45:21 VERY SHORT -- THOUGH IT'S A VERY SHORT TRANSIT, THERE'S
09:45:25 INCREDIBLE CONGESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST TEMPORARILY
09:45:28 ENGINEERED.
09:45:29 I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE PERMANENT CONSIDERATIONS AND I

09:45:32 APPRECIATE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ON A
09:45:34 LONG-TERM BASIS BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE SOME SHORT TERM
09:45:37 CONSIDERATION IN THAT REGARD.
09:45:38 I'M A TAMPA NATIVE.
09:45:39 I LOVE THE SPIRIT OF OUR CITY, WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, WHAT'S
09:45:42 HAPPENING DOWNTOWN.
09:45:43 BUT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES SUCH THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ON A
09:45:47 SHORT TERM BASIS AND I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S
09:45:50 CONSIDERATION IN THAT REGARD.
09:45:51 IT'S ITEM NUMBER 82 ON THE AGENDA.
09:45:53 I THANK COUNCILMAN SUAREZ AND COHEN FOR ENSURING THAT IT
09:45:57 GETS ADDRESSED TODAY AND I AM HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL COMES
09:46:00 UP WITH A SOLUTION AND PRESS FORWARD ON THAT.
09:46:02 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:46:03 >> MY NAME IS MARYLOU BAILEY, 912 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE AND I
09:46:11 THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THE TREE ITEM.
09:46:13 WHEN YOU DO TAKE IT UP, I INCH YOU TO CONSULT THE LETTERS
09:46:17 THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOU BY HISTORIC HYDE PARK
09:46:19 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ONE YEAR AGO AND ONE RECENTLY AS
09:46:21 WELL AS HYDE PARK PRESERVATION, INC.
09:46:24 THEY OUTLINE SIMPLY THE POSITION THAT ACTION SHOULDN'T BE
09:46:28 TAKEN ON REMOVING TREES WITHOUT ALSO BALANCING REVISIONS ON
09:46:31 THE MITIGATION AND THE REPLACEMENT.
09:46:33 THESE THINGS GO HAND IN GLOVE AND MUST BE CONSIDERED
09:46:35 TOGETHER.

09:46:36 SO PLEASE DIRECT THE STAFF TO DO THAT AND YOUR OWN ATTENTION
09:46:39 TO DO THAT AND PLEASE PROTECT THE CANOPIES.
09:46:43 AND I AM WORKING WITH TREE SOMETHING AND I AM ALSO GOING TO
09:46:46 BE WORKING WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
09:46:48 LET'S MAKE SURE THERE'S TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND
09:46:50 WHAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE.
09:46:51 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ATTENTION.
09:46:53 I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT SUBJECT.
09:46:55 THANKS AGAIN.
09:46:55 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:47:02 I'M LYNN RATTRAY, AND I THANK YOU COUNCILMAN REDDICK AND
09:47:08 OTHERS FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.
09:47:10 I DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO SPEAK.
09:47:12 I JUST CAME TO SHOW MY SUPPORT OF THE YBOR CHICKENS.
09:47:16 I'M A RETIRED PRINCIPAL.
09:47:18 I HAVE BEEN RETIRED FIVE YEARS.
09:47:20 AND LIKE A GOOD PRINCIPAL I WAS HERE AN HOUR EARLY.
09:47:26 SO WE WENT TO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN, AND MY FRIENDS
09:47:32 AND I, WE COULD NOT GET TWO STEPS WITHOUT SOMEONE STOPPING
09:47:37 US BECAUSE THEY SAW OUR SHIRTS.
09:47:43 THEY WERE ALL IN SUPPORT OF OUR CHICKENS, AND THANKED ME FOR
09:47:48 WHAT WE ARE DOING TO SUPPORT THEM.
09:47:50 SO I AM SPEAKING FROM MY HEART.
09:47:52 I DID NOT COME PREPARED, AS I SAID.
09:47:57 WHEN I RETIRED, I THOUGHT, OKAY, GUARD NIPPING, READING,

09:48:03 TRAVEL.
09:48:06 FULL AGENDA FOR ME.
09:48:07 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE -- OH, AND PAINTING.
09:48:10 I'M AN ARTIST.
09:48:11 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, I ENDED UP IN YBOR CITY BECAUSE I
09:48:15 WANTED TO PAINT BE SOME ROOSTERS AND CHICKENS AND HENS.
09:48:20 OH, MY GOSH, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THESE CHICKENS FROM THE
09:48:25 GET-GO.
09:48:28 THEY ARE LITTLE FAMILIES.
09:48:29 I MEAN, THEY TRULY JUST WIND THEIR LITTLE WAY INTO YOUR
09:48:35 HEARTS.
09:48:36 WAY KNOW IS EVERY FRIDAY, INSTEAD OF BEING IN THE BAHAMAS OR
09:48:42 SOMEWHERE, I AM THERE WITH MY BROOM CLEANING UP THE PARK,
09:48:46 TIDYING THINGS UP.
09:48:48 THIS WAS NOT IN THE MY RETIREMENT PLAN.
09:48:53 I HAVE MET SO MANY PEOPLE.
09:48:55 YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IMPACT THAT THESE CHICKENS ARE TO OUR
09:49:01 CITY.
09:49:01 PEOPLE FROM NAPLES.
09:49:07 IF THEY SEE YOU WITH A BROOM, THEY WANT TO KNOW THE STORY.
09:49:10 AND I LEARNED THIS STORY, AND IT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE THE
09:49:19 WAY THE CHICKENS BRING DIVERSE PEOPLE TOGETHER.
09:49:24 WE HAVE LITTLE CHURCH SERVICES GOING ON.
09:49:25 WE HAVE LITTLE AEROBICS GOING ON.
09:49:28 AND WE HAVE RETIRED PRINCIPALS WITH A BROOM.

09:49:31 [BELL SOUNDS]
09:49:32 THANK YOU.
09:49:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:49:35 >> MY NAME IS IAN BOYLE. I'M THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS MANAGER
09:49:43 FOR PROGRESSIVE WASTE SOLUTIONS, 5135 MADISON AVENUE.
09:49:50 WE DO BUSINESS UNDER THE NAME OF WASTE CONNECTIONS IN
09:49:53 FLORIDA.
09:49:53 WE ARE A THIRD LARGEST COMPANY IN SOLID WASTE IN NORTH
09:49:58 AMERICA.
09:49:58 I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 78 WHICH IS
09:50:01 THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND REPUBLIC SERVICE
09:50:04 OF FLORIDA FOR THE COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE COLLECTION
09:50:07 SERVICES CONTRACT.
09:50:10 EVEN THOUGH MY COMPANY SUBMITTED THE LOWEST BID, WE ARE NOT
09:50:13 HERE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 78.
09:50:16 WE ARE HERE TO RESPECTFULLY INDICATE HOW DISAPPOINTED WE ARE
09:50:19 THAT OUR PRICE WAS NOT ACCEPTED BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE
09:50:21 PROCESS.
09:50:22 EVEN THOUGH OUR BID WAS A MILLION DOLLARS LOWER WE LOOK
09:50:25 FORWARD TO THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE
09:50:27 CITY OF TAMPA.
09:50:28 WE ARE ALSO HERE TO STRONGLY INDICATE THAT OUR COMPANY IS
09:50:31 MORE THAN CAPABLE OF DOING THIS COMMERCIAL WORK IN THIS
09:50:34 CONTRACT.
09:50:35 ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE FEEL THE OTHER THREE

09:50:38 COMPANIES WHO SUBMITTED BIDS ARE CAPABLE AS WELL.
09:50:41 AS FOR OUR COMPANY, WE ARE PERMITTED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
09:50:45 SERVICE 125 CUSTOMERS. WE SERVE 2700 COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS
09:50:48 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. HILLSBOROUGH IS A SEMI OPEN MARKET
09:50:52 WITH THREE FRANCHISE HAULERS. AND WE SERVICE OVER 10,000
09:50:55 COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IN PASCO COUNTY, HERNANDO COUNTY,
09:50:58 PINELLAS COUNTY VIA A MIXTURE OF FRANCHISE CONTRACT AND OPEN
09:51:01 MARKET.
09:51:01 WE SERVICE 8,000 COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IN THE ORLANDO AREA.
09:51:05 28,000 COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IN BROWARD AND MIAMI-DADE COUNTY
09:51:08 VIA A MIXTURE OF FRANCHISE CONTRACTS AND OPEN MARKET.
09:51:11 AGAIN EVEN THOUGH WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL WE LOOK FORWARD TO
09:51:14 THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY.
09:51:15 THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO SPEAK.
09:51:16 AND WE WISH THE WINNING HAULER AND THE CITY GOOD LUCK WITH
09:51:21 THIS CONTRACT.
09:51:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN'T GET IT GO, SIR.
09:51:23 YOU MENTIONED ABOUT YOUR COMPANY.
09:51:25 AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALTHOUGH YOU SPOKE VERY NICELY ABOUT
09:51:29 THE WHOLE PROCESS, YOU CAME BECAUSE YOU FELT THAT YOU WERE
09:51:33 IGNORED.
09:51:35 BUT DID YOU MEET ALL THE CRITERIA OF THE BID PROCESS WHERE
09:51:38 YOU ARE THE LOWEST BIDDER AND EVERYTHING, DID YOU HAVE ALL
09:51:40 THE EQUIPMENT, DID YOU HAVE EVERYTHING?
09:51:43 YOU MADE SOME STATEMENTS THAT TO ME -- I DIDN'T APPRECIATE.

09:51:48 DID YOU MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BID PROCESS?
09:51:51 EVERY ONE OF THEM?
09:51:53 YES OR NO.
09:51:54 I DON'T WANT AN ANSWER OF A LONG STORY.
09:51:56 I WANT YES OR NO.
09:51:57 >> WELL, THAT'S --
09:52:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ASKED YES.
09:52:02 IS IT DIFFICULT TO SAY "YES" OR "NO"?
09:52:07 >> NO.
09:52:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:10 NEXT.
09:52:10 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
09:52:13 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:52:19 MY NAME IS STEVE TURIAGA. I LIVE AT 2002 EAST 5th
09:52:25 AVENUE IN YBOR CITY.
09:52:26 I OWN A COUPLE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE.
09:52:28 ONE AT 1406 NORTH 19th STREET AND ONE AT 1701 NORTH
09:52:32 20th STREET.
09:52:34 I HAVE SERVED ON THE YCDC BOARD FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND I
09:52:38 CURRENTLY CHAIR THE PARKING COMMITTEE AND THE ENFORCEMENT
09:52:44 COMMITTEE FOR THE YCDC.
09:52:46 I'M A DEVELOPER.
09:52:47 I BUILT A 36 CONDO UNIT AND I HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES I WOULD
09:52:53 LIKE TO DEVELOP.
09:52:53 IN WORKING WITH THE YCDC, WE TOOK UP A LOT OF CHALLENGES,

09:52:57 ONE OF WHICH WAS THE NOISE IN YBOR.
09:53:00 AND WE TALKED ABOUT NOISE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAIN
09:53:04 NOISE AND OF COURSE THERE'S THE CHICKEN NOISE.
09:53:08 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT LIVING IN YBOR IS NOT ALL THAT IT'S
09:53:14 PUT UP FOR WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE TRAIN THAT GOES
09:53:17 THROUGH YBOR CITY AT 3 IN THE MORNING, WAKES YOU UP, WHEN
09:53:21 BARS LET OUT AT 3 IN THE MORNING AND THAT'S WHEN THE MUSIC
09:53:24 STOPS, AND WITH ROOSTERS CROWING AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT.
09:53:29 IT VERY DIFFICULT TO LIVE AND SLEEP IN YBOR.
09:53:34 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OR ASK FOR YOUR HELP WITH THE
09:53:38 INFESTATION THAT WE HAVE IN YBOR.
09:53:40 YES, COUNCIL, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, AN INFESTATION OF
09:53:44 CHICKENS.
09:53:44 AS AN ANIMAL LOVER LIKE THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE I LOVE
09:53:47 CHICKENS, I LOVE DOGS.
09:53:49 THERE'S IF THERE WERE DOGS IN YBOR CITY WE WOULD HAVE AN
09:53:53 OUTRAGE.
09:53:55 IF WE HAD BUGS THERE WOULD BE AN OUTRAGE.
09:53:57 BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE CHICKEN AND THEY ARE CUTE AND PEOPLE
09:54:00 THAT LIVE IN BRANDON AND OTHER AREAS OF TOWN, THEY ENJOY THE
09:54:04 BEAUTIFUL CHICKENS.
09:54:04 BUT IT IS ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO SLEEP THERE.
09:54:10 I AM SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING MOVING OUT OF YBOR.
09:54:14 PLEASE, I ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS CHICKEN PROBLEM.
09:54:17 THANK YOU.

09:54:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:54:21 >> TONY LACOLLA, 2002 EAST 5th AVENUE, YBOR CITY HERE TO
09:54:29 ADDRESS YOU REGARDING THE YBOR CITY CHICKEN ISSUE.
09:54:32 SOME OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM ME REGARDING MY
09:54:36 FRUSTRATION WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YBOR.
09:54:39 THE CHICKEN POPULATION SINCE I MOVED THERE IS THE YEARS AGO
09:54:42 WENT FROM PROBABLY 30 TO I AM GUESSING OVER 300 NOW.
09:54:47 THE NUMBER IS INCREASING EXPO TENSIONALLY.
09:54:50 THERE IS THIS MYTH OUT THERE THAT THOSE OF US WHO ARE HERE
09:54:54 SPEAKING ARE AGAINST CHICKENS AND WE WANT TO GET RID OF ALL
09:54:57 OF THEM.
09:54:58 THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH.
09:54:59 NOT THE TRUTH.
09:55:01 WE ARE ASKING FOR SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE THE CHICKEN
09:55:05 POPULATION, PARTICULARLY THE ROOSTER POPULATION.
09:55:10 THE ROOSTER POPULATION USED TO HAVE -- WE ARE ACTUALLY AT A
09:55:17 HUNDRED ROOSTERS.
09:55:18 LIKE STEVE MENTIONED IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SLEEP NOW.
09:55:21 IF THERE WAS ANOTHER TYPE OF INFESTATION OF ANY OTHER ANIMAL
09:55:25 THE CITY WOULD BE DOWN THERE IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO TAKE CARE
09:55:27 OF THE SITUATION.
09:55:29 WHY IS IT DIFFERENT FOR ROOSTERS?
09:55:31 WE HAVE GOT TO GET A HANDLE ON THE SITUATION.
09:55:32 AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVE INTO THE DISTRICT OVER THE NEXT
09:55:35 TEN YEARS, WE HAVE MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING, THIS

09:55:37 ISSUE IS GOING TO KEEP COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
09:55:41 YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP HEARING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER
09:55:43 AGAIN.
09:55:44 YES, WE KNOW, I KNEW WHEN I MOVED TO THE DISTRICT THAT THERE
09:55:47 WERE CHICKENS.
09:55:48 I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
09:55:49 THAN THEY ARE OKAY, YOU KNOW.
09:55:51 A ROOSTER HERE AND THERE.
09:55:52 BUT THE NUMBER IS OUT OF CONTROL THAT IS CROWING NEVER
09:55:56 STOPS.
09:55:57 IT'S CONSTANT.
09:55:58 STARTING AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
09:56:00 3:30.
09:56:02 4:00.
09:56:03 5:00.
09:56:03 I HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP IN PROBABLY CLOSE TO A
09:56:06 YEAR NOW.
09:56:06 I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
09:56:08 I DON'T MIND CHICKENS.
09:56:09 FINE.
09:56:10 BUT THERE COMES A POINT WHEN WE HAVE TO SAY ENOUGH IS
09:56:12 ENOUGH.
09:56:13 AND WE ARE THERE NOW.
09:56:16 THE POPULATION IS INCREASING EXPONENTIALLY.
09:56:19 IT'S GOING TO KEEP INCREASING.

09:56:20 THE CHICKEN POPULATION HAS BEEN DWINDLING DOWN THE FOOD
09:56:26 SUPPLY SO THEY ARE SPREADING NORTH OF I-4 NOW, ALL THE WAY
09:56:29 TO CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
09:56:30 HOW LONG BEFORE THEY ARE IN CHANNELSIDE, IN TAMPA HEIGHTS,
09:56:33 MOVING SOUTH TO ADAMO, EAST TO 26th STREET.
09:56:38 THERE'S SO MANY CHICKENS THEY KEEP SPREADING FURTHER AND
09:56:40 FURTHER.
09:56:41 YOU ARE GOING TO GET NEIGHBORS FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS
09:56:43 COMING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SITUATION.
09:56:45 JUST WARNING YOU NOW.
09:56:46 AND NOW IS THE TIME YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
09:56:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
09:56:51 >> DON REED, YBOR CITY.
09:57:01 YBOR CITY IS ONE OF ONLY TWO HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THE STATE
09:57:04 AND THE CHICKENS ARE A DIRECT LINK TO THE HISTORY THAT WE
09:57:08 CELEBRATE.
09:57:08 THE COUNCILMAN SAID ON THE NEWS THE OTHER DAY NOW IS THE
09:57:10 TIME FOR THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS
09:57:14 BEING BUILT BUT I BELIEVE PEOPLE MOVING INTO A DESIGNATED
09:57:16 HISTORIC DISTRICT NEED TO ACCEPT IT AS IT IS.
09:57:19 WE DON'T KNOW THE POPULATION THAT'S GROWN OR NEW DEVELOPMENT
09:57:23 THAT WE ARE SEEING IS PUSHING THEM INTO MORE CONCENTRATED
09:57:26 AREA.
09:57:26 THOSE -- NO STUDIES HAVE BEEN MADE ON THE NUMBER.

09:57:34 THAT'S PART OF NATURE'S EBB AND FLOW.
09:57:40 NATIONAL HANDLES THAT IN HER OWN WAY N.MY CORNER WE HAVE
09:57:44 LOST SIX CHICKENS IN THE LAST MONTH WITHOUT ANY SHOTS BEING
09:57:48 NECESSARY.
09:57:50 THE HAWKS ARE BACK IN TOWN SO WE DON'T EXPECT MUCH GROWTH
09:57:53 UNTIL NEXT SPRING.
09:57:54 THE CHICKENS WE DO HAVE ARE NATURAL PEST CONTROL FOR OUR
09:57:58 NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:57:58 THEY EAT SNAKES, FROGS, COCKROACHES, MICE AND RATS.
09:58:03 IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF RESTAURANT TRASH THAT WE
09:58:06 HAVE IN YBOR CITY AND OUR ALLEYS AND CONSIDER WE DO NOT HAVE
09:58:09 A PEST PROBLEM THE IMPACT ON THE ISSUE BECOMES ENCLOSURE.
09:58:14 THEY ARE A HUGE TOURIST DRAW.
09:58:15 AND TOURISTS SPEND MONEY.
09:58:17 I PERSONALLY KNOW PEOPLE WHO FOUND THEM ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA
09:58:20 AND CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO SEE THEM.
09:58:23 VISIT TAMPA BAY, THE YCDC AND CITY OF TAMPA ITSELF ALL USE
09:58:27 THEM IN THEIR MARKETING CAMPAIGNS.
09:58:30 THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY EMBRACES OUR CHICKENS.
09:58:32 AND ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR STRONGEST ASSETS IN 2016 SURVEY DONE
09:58:37 BY THE YCDC.
09:58:39 MANY SMALL BUSINESSES MAKE USE THEM IN ADVERTISING.
09:58:44 I HAPPEN TO KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TODAY FROM BOTH THE
09:58:47 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND YBOR MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION WHO ARE
09:58:50 HERE TO LEND THEIR SUPPORT.

09:58:52 I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL COMPLAINED TO YOU GUYS, BUT I HAVE BEEN
09:58:55 TO OTHER MEETINGS WHERE A FEW PEOPLE SHOWED UP WITH THEIR
09:58:58 GRIEVANCES.
09:58:59 NEARLY ALL THESE PEOPLE DO NOT LIVE HERE.
09:59:02 HAVE MOVED OR WILL BE MOVING VERY SHORTLY.
09:59:07 WE SHOULD NOT MAKE CHANGES FOR A FEW TEMPORARY PEOPLE.
09:59:13 IF YOU DO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND DISCUSSION SHOULD END TODAY.
09:59:19 THE SUPPORT FOR THE CAN CHICKENS IS OVERWHELMING.
09:59:23 WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER 2 THAT YOU SIGNATURES ON A PETITION
09:59:26 TO KEEP THE CHICKENS SAFE.
09:59:28 WE MAY NOT HAVE THE INFLUENCE OF THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO
09:59:31 CHICKENS BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE NUMBERS.
09:59:33 THERE ARE SOLUTIONS.
09:59:37 COLLECTING EGGS, USING BIRTH CONTROL, AND WE HAVE THE
09:59:41 FACILITY TO KEEP THE POPULATION IN CHECK.
09:59:43 LASTLY, NO COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY ONE LIKE OURS SHOULD EVER
09:59:47 TRADE CULTURE FOR CONDOS.
09:59:50 WE MUST HE'D THE RABBIS WORDS FROM EARLIER IN THE CITY, WITH
09:59:56 SO MANY PEOPLE MOVING SO FAST IN SO MANY DIRECTIONS LET'S
09:59:59 REMEMBER TO STOP ONCE IN A WHILE TO APPRECIATE WHO WE ARE.
10:00:05 THANK YOU.
10:00:05 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:00:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT.
10:00:07 >> MY NAME IS TOM DEGEORGE. I AM AN YBOR BUSINESS OWNER.
10:00:16 I OWN THE CROWBAR IN YBOR FOR 12 YEARS AND YBOR RESIDENT,

10:00:20 HAVE A HOME IN EAST YBOR FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
10:00:25 CHAIRMAN OF YBOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND CURRENT VICE
10:00:29 PRESIDENT, FORMER PRESIDENT OF YBOR MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION.
10:00:33 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO THE THINGS THAT DARRIN JUST SAID.
10:00:39 AS A BAR OWNER, PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, I
10:00:44 CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS PEOPLE ASK ABOUT WHEN
10:00:46 THEY COME IN IS ABOUT THE CHICKENS.
10:00:49 I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE SECOND MOST PHOTOGRAPHED THING IN THE
10:00:51 DISTRICT.
10:00:53 AND FRANKLY I'M EMBARRASSED THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY.
10:00:56 THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE
10:01:00 INTERNALLY.
10:01:00 I WOULD HOPE AFTER THIS WE GO BACK TO YBOR AND DISCUSS IT
10:01:03 AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION ON OUR OWN OVER THE NEXT FEW
10:01:07 MONTHS, TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING OUT OF CONTROL BUT I
10:01:12 DON'T THINK WE ARE ON THE MIDST OF ANY CHICKEN OR ROOSTER
10:01:15 REVOLUTION.
10:01:16 I THINK IT WILL BE OKAY.
10:01:18 THANK YOU.
10:01:18 >> MY NAME IS SHELLEY COLEMAN AND I ALONG WITH MY FRIEND
10:01:29 LYNN WHO SPOKE EARLIER RETIRED FIVE YEARS AGO AFTER WORKING
10:01:32 IN NONPROFIT, ALL MY LIFE, BATTLING CANCER.
10:01:38 WHEN I RETIRED I DECIDED TO STAY HOME.
10:01:41 I TAKE CARE OF MY TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS, EVERY FRIDAY EVENING
10:01:44 YOU WILL FIND ME IN YBOR WITH MY BROOM SWEEPING UP AFTER THE

10:01:47 CHICKENS.
10:01:48 I TOO FELL IN LOVE ABOUT THE CHICKENS.
10:01:52 I ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME DOWN ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.
10:01:55 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING YOUR BROOM BUT COME DOWN AND MEET
10:01:59 MAZY MAE WHO STILL SLEEP TOGETHER AFTER TWO YEARS IN THE
10:02:03 SAME TREE.
10:02:04 COME DOWN AND MEET ARTHUR.
10:02:07 COME DOWN AND MEET SHELLY THE CHICKEN THAT WAS NAMED AFTER
10:02:10 ME.
10:02:10 AND YOU TOO WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH THESE CREATURES.
10:02:14 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE HISTORY OF YBOR ALIVE.
10:02:17 THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
10:02:20 THE RESIDENTS WILL COME AND GO.
10:02:21 BUT THE CHICKENS NOTICED TO STAY IN YBOR.
10:02:24 THANK YOU.
10:02:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT STANDING
10:02:30 PLAN TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:02:34 ALL RIGHT.
10:02:35 BECAUSE WE NEED TO BRING IT TO A CONCLUSION.
10:02:38 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THAT MR. MILLER.
10:02:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW FAR PAST 30 MINUTES ARE WE AT THIS
10:02:49 POINT?
10:02:49 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:02:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:03:04 THE GENTLEMAN ON THIS SIDE IN THE BACK, ARE YOU PLANNING ON

10:03:08 SPEAKING?
10:03:08 THE GENTLEMAN.
10:03:10 OKAY.
10:03:11 ON THIS SIDE, THE LADY THAT IS -- NO, THE ONE WITH THE --
10:03:21 YOU.
10:03:22 ARE YOU PLANNING ON SPEAKING?
10:03:23 >> YES 69 AND THE ONE BEHIND YOU, ARE YOU PLANNING ON
10:03:30 SPEAKING?
10:03:32 OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
10:03:33 AND MR. MILLER.
10:03:37 HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK?
10:03:48 CHICKENS.
10:03:52 (LAUGHTER)
10:03:54 ALL RIGHT.
10:03:55 WE ARE GOING TO CUT IT OFF --
10:03:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IS THERE ANYONE DOWNSTAIRS IN THE MASCOTTE
10:04:00 ROOM AT ALL THAT WAS FOR OVERFLOW BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE
10:04:04 COULDN'T LET PEOPLE IN.
10:04:05 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:04:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE ONLY SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE IS IF
10:04:11 THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE IN THE MASCOTTE ROOM THAT'S BEEN
10:04:13 WAITING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T LET THEM IN.
10:04:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:04:19 IF THERE IS NONE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CUT-OFF POINT.
10:04:22 IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU STAND UP AND

10:04:26 GET IN LINE BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
10:04:29 BE ALL RIGHT.
10:04:32 LET'S GO.
10:04:33 >> HI.
10:04:36 MY NAME IS ROBERTO TORRES, YCDC CHAIR, ALSO A DEVELOPMENT
10:04:45 CORPORATION.
10:04:45 I OWN A BUSINESS IN YBOR CITY 1901 EAST 7TH AVENUE AND LIKE
10:04:50 THE CHICKENS --
10:04:56 I LIVE IN YBOR.
10:04:57 I SPEND SO EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIVE -- I ACTUALLY LIVE IN
10:05:09 YBOR CITY.
10:05:09 THERE ARE POINTS I WANT TO MAKE BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CHICKENS
10:05:12 IN QUESTION.
10:05:12 NUMBER ONE, IN THE LAST SIX YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN TO WHERE
10:05:16 THE YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, NEVER HAVE I SEEN A
10:05:20 REPORT FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE FIREFIGHTERS
10:05:23 OR EMTs THAT HAS REPORTED AN ATTACK BY THE CHICKENS SO
10:05:29 THEY ARE NOT DRAINING CITY RESOURCES.
10:05:31 NUMBER TWO, THEY ARE AN INCREDIBLE ASSET AND WE REALIZE
10:05:37 THIS, IN A SURVEY THAT WE DID IN 2016, WE HAD A LOCAL PR
10:05:41 FIRM FOR THE CRA, AND WE FIND OUT FROM RESIDENTS AND
10:05:46 BUSINESS OWNERS ALIKE, AND TOURISTS, THAT THE CHICKENS, IN
10:05:54 OUR SURVEY, ABOUT 86 POSITIVE COMMENTS AND THERE WERE TWO
10:05:57 NEGATIVES.
10:05:58 ONE OF THEM WAS THAT THE CITY SHOULD DO MORE PROTECT THE

10:06:05 CITY.
10:06:06 THE THIRD ONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR VISITORS BUREAU, THE
10:06:16 BUDGET THROUGH BED TAX, YBOR CITY NOT ONLY ENCOMPASSES OR
10:06:19 HIGHLIGHTS THE HISTORIC NATURE OF OUR DISTRICT, THE ASSETS
10:06:25 FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH OF THE TAMPA BAY REGION
10:06:27 AS A WHOLE.
10:06:28 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE YBOR CITY CHICKENS, THINK ABOUT IT
10:06:31 FOR THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
10:06:33 THANK YOU.
10:06:33 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:06:41 I AM GOING TO READ SOME REMARKS.
10:06:44 I AM A TAMPA RESIDENT AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
10:06:47 THE YBOR CHICKENS.
10:06:50 AFTER LEARNING ABOUT THEM, I BECAME A MEMBER OF THE YBOR
10:06:54 CHICKEN SOCIETY.
10:06:55 I ALSO HAVE THE CENTENNIAL PARK EVERY FRIDAY TO MAKE IT
10:06:59 PRETTIER FOR THE MARKET LOCAL BUSINESSES.
10:07:03 AND I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWO YEARS.
10:07:05 NOT ONLY MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I HELP MY COMMUNITY BUT IT HAS
10:07:08 BROUGHT ME VERY CLOSE TO YBOR CITY AND ITS CHICKENS.
10:07:11 THEY ARE PART OF WHAT MAKES YBOR CITY SO UNIQUE.
10:07:16 AS AN ANIMAL LOVER I COULD THANKFUL FOR A LAW THAT PROTECTS
10:07:21 OUR BIRDS.
10:07:22 YBOR IS NOT PERFECT.
10:07:23 BUT IT IS DIFFERENT.

10:07:24 IT HAS HISTORY, ENTERTAINMENT, GREAT FOOD, AND CHICKENS.
10:07:28 REMOVE THEM AND THE CITY WILL LOSE A CHARM.
10:07:31 IF YOU SEARCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA, #YBORCHICKENS, YOU WILL SEE
10:07:31 COMMENTS ABOUT THEM. IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT NEW
10:07:31 RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE NOISE, AND I'M SORRY, BUT YBOR CITY IS
10:07:42 EVERYTHING BUT A QUIET PLACE.
10:07:45 AND IF THE AMOUNT OF CHICKENS MUST BE ADDRESSED, I STRONGLY
10:07:48 SUGGEST WE START WITH PEOPLE WHO ABANDON THE CHICKENS.
10:07:52 THIS NOT ONLY ADDS NUMBERS TO THE POPULATION BUT THE
10:07:56 ANIMALS, AND SUFFER DAILY TO KNOW HOW TO AVOID CARS.
10:08:04 I WOULD ALSO OPPOSE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO CHOOSES TO
10:08:07 REMOVE PROTECTION THAT HELPS THESE CHICKENS AND OTHERS.
10:08:12 THANK YOU.
10:08:12 >> I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
10:08:17 I WROTE YOU A LETTER AND HOPE YOU READ TO THE MAKE IT A
10:08:19 LITTLE LONGER.
10:08:20 I AM NOT ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. FOR THE LAST 31 OF THE
10:08:27 LAST 38 YEARS, I PRACTICED LAW IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
10:08:32 MY NAME IS HOWARD HUNTER.
10:08:36 IN DOING THAT, I HAVE MADE THE DECISION MANY TIMES THAT
10:08:40 DOWNTOWN TAMPA IS A CONVENIENT, VIBRANT, NICE PLACE TO WORK.
10:08:44 ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO THAT STARTED TO CHANGE.
10:08:47 YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THIS ON ITEM NUMBER 82 OF YOUR
10:08:50 AGENDA.
10:08:52 BACK AT THAT TIME, THE CITY AND THE FDOT BEGAN PUTTING IN A

10:08:57 BIKE PATH ON JACKSON STREET THAT SACRIFICED A FULL LANE OF
10:09:01 TRAFFIC AND CREATED A BOTTLENECK FROM ASHLEY TO FLORIDA AND
10:09:05 BEYOND.
10:09:07 THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN ANY BETTER SIGNALIZATION.
10:09:12 THERE WERE VERY POOR ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC.
10:09:15 THE RESULT HAS BEEN THAT MY LAWYERS AND MY STAFF CAN'T GET
10:09:18 OUT OF THEIR PARKING GARAGE.
10:09:20 ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT THAT THERE IS ANY BLIP OR UPTICK IN
10:09:25 DOWNTOWN TAMPA TRAFFIC.
10:09:27 BANK OF AMERICA PARKING GARAGE AND THE FIFTH THIRD BANK
10:09:30 PARKING GARAGE WOULD BACK UP.
10:09:34 DELAYS OF 30, 45, 50 MINUTES, AN HOUR OR MORE ARE COMMON.
10:09:39 WE ARE LOSING PRODUCTIVE TIME FROM STAFF.
10:09:42 WE ARE LOSING PRODUCTIVE TIME FROM LAWYERS.
10:09:44 WE ARE HAVING CLIENTS TELL US THEY DON'T WANT TO COME
10:09:47 DOWNTOWN.
10:09:48 WE ARE LOSING OPPORTUNITIES TO HIRE TALENTED STAFF BECAUSE
10:09:51 OF THE INCONVENIENCE INVOLVED IN THIS.
10:09:53 AND THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE SEEN DONE SO FAR TO REALLY
10:09:56 ADDRESS IT IS PUT OUT PEOPLE TO DIRECT -- POLICE OFFICERS TO
10:10:00 DIRECT TRAFFIC ON NIGHTS WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM.
10:10:03 THAT'S NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION AND IT'S PARTICULARLY NOT
10:10:06 GOING TO BE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION WHEN THE PROJECT THAT WAS
10:10:09 ONCE KNOWN AS TRUMP TOWER BEGINS DUMPING ITS CONSTRUCTION
10:10:13 TRAFFIC ON JACKSON STREET, AND AFTER THAT WHEN IT'S

10:10:17 COMPLETED, AND ALL THOSE RESIDENCE AND ALL THAT RETAIL
10:10:22 INFLATE THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.
10:10:23 I WOULD ASK YOU TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS WHEN YOU HEAR
10:10:26 ITEM 82.
10:10:27 I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR WISDOM IN SOLVING THIS
10:10:31 PROBLEM DEFINITIVELY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA
10:10:35 WHAT AMOUNTS TO A GHOST TOWN AT THE BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA,
10:10:39 AND THE FIFTH THIRD BANK BUILDING BECAUSE PEOPLE WON'T LEASE
10:10:43 THERE OR WON'T BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S SO INCONVENIENT.
10:10:46 THANK YOU.
10:10:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
10:10:49 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:53 MY NAME IS FRAN COSTENTINO, EAST 11th AVENUE IN EAST
10:10:59 YBOR.
10:11:01 I'M A MEMBER OF YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:11:03 AND ALSO A RESIDENT, BUSINESS AND PROPERTY OWNER IN EAST
10:11:07 YBOR.
10:11:08 I'M A NATIVE OF YBOR CITY.
10:11:10 AND CHICKENS HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE MY ANCESTORS AND YOUR
10:11:15 ANCESTORS.
10:11:17 MY NANA HAD VEGETABLES AND CHICKENS IN HER YARD BEFORE I WAS
10:11:21 BORN.
10:11:21 PEOPLE COME AND GO.
10:11:22 THE CHICKENS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
10:11:30 THIS IS OUR SECOND ROUNDABOUT CONCERNING CHICKENS.

10:11:34 WE CAME TO PAM IORIO AND PLEADED WITH HER TO PROTECT OUR
10:11:39 CHICKENS.
10:11:39 THERE IS HISTORIC TO YBOR AS KEY WEST.
10:11:44 FAMILIES BRING THEIR CHILDREN OVER ON SATURDAYS TO LOOK AT
10:11:47 THE CHICKENS.
10:11:50 PAM SPENT HOURS AND MONTHS HAVING LEGAL DIG UP AN OLD
10:11:52 ORDINANCE FROM THE LATE 1800S, EARLY 1900S, TO FIND
10:11:57 SOMETHING TO PROTECT OUR YBOR CHICKENS AND THEY FOUND
10:12:00 SOMETHING UNDER WILD FOWL SO THEY WERE PROTECTED SO IT DIED
10:12:04 DOWN A WHILE.
10:12:05 I HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH CATS IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO
10:12:08 SOMETHING.
10:12:09 WE HAVE EVERY OTHER HOUSE WITH FOOD AND WATER FEEDING FERAL
10:12:13 CATS, EVERYTHING ON AMAZON PRIME.COM THAT DOESN'T DO
10:12:18 ANYTHING WITH FERAL CATS.
10:12:19 IF YOU GO OUTSIDE I CAN SHOW YOU MY CONVERTIBLE TO.
10:12:22 THEY ARE SCRATCHING IT TO DEATH.
10:12:24 I CRINGE WHEN I PICK UP THE PAPER AND I FEEL OLD FASHIONED
10:12:28 TO READ THE NEWSPAPER AND I HEAR HEADLINES OF FIGHTS,
10:12:32 SHOOTINGS, ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARKING LOTS
10:12:34 OF YBOR, THE NOISE, THE PANHANDLING, THE HOMELESS AND ALL
10:12:38 THE ORDINANCES.
10:12:40 I HAVE NEVER HEARD ONE NEGATIVE HEADLINE REGARDING THE
10:12:43 CHICKENS IN YBOR CITY.
10:12:46 ALL THE THINGS THAT PUT YBOR CITY THE NEGATIVE PERSPECTIVE

10:12:51 TO KEEP PEOPLE AWAY FROM THERE, I GUARANTEE YOU CHICKENS ARE
10:12:55 NOT ONE OF THEM.
10:12:57 SO ANYMORE FAVOR OF A HUMANE WAY OF REDUCING THE FLOCK,
10:13:05 MAYBE GETTING WITH SOUTH FLORIDA OR H-H CLUBS OR WHATEVER
10:13:09 AND NEUTRALIZING OR WHATEVER, KEEPING THE ROOSTERS NEUTERED,
10:13:16 AND TO KEEP THE FLOCK DOWN.
10:13:18 BUT AS FAR AS GETTING RID OF THE CHICKENS, I AM ADAMANTLY
10:13:21 AND VEHEMENTLY AGAINST REDUCING OUR CHICKENS.
10:13:25 THE POPULATION HAS GROWN, SO IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT
10:13:32 THAT I WOULD AGREE TO THAT.
10:13:33 BUT AS FAR AS DOING AWAY WITH THEM, I THINK YOU WOULD BE
10:13:36 DOING THE CITY A GREAT DISSERVICE AS WE ARE KNOWN FOR OUR
10:13:39 CIGARS, OUR CHICKENS, OUR STREETCARS, AND I DISAGREE WITH A
10:13:43 LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME UP HERE WITH A LOT OF NEGATIVE
10:13:46 COMMENTS.
10:13:46 AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO SHOW ME ONE HEADLINE WITH ONE
10:13:50 NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF ONE CHICKEN OR ONE ROOSTER HAS CAUSED
10:13:56 IN OUR DISTRICT.
10:13:58 THANK YOU.
10:13:58 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:14:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENT, IS ANYONE ELSE
10:14:02 SPEAKING ON CHICKENS?
10:14:03 OKAY, I WILL WAIT TILL YOU ALL SPEAK.
10:14:05 NO, NOT TO YOU.
10:14:06 THANK YOU.

10:14:06 >> MY NAME IS PAUL GARGAGLIANO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF
10:14:15 HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, OVER 200 PROFESSIONALS, FOUNDED HERE
10:14:19 IN TAMPA, AND IN THE BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING.
10:14:22 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 82 AND TO ECHO WHAT SHARON
10:14:26 ELWOOD, COO FROM TRENAM TALKED ABOUT, AND ALSO HILL, WARD,
10:14:33 HENDERSON.
10:14:35 WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISSUES GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA
10:14:39 HAS BEEN GROWING, AND I HAVE GROWN UP HERE IN TAMPA AND
10:14:42 ALWAYS THOUGHT OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA AS GROWING AND DEVELOPING
10:14:45 AND NOT STOPPING.
10:14:46 AND WE ARE ON THE CRUX OF JUST BLOWING UP AND BEING THAT
10:14:55 CITY, AND WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW, AND TO KEEP IT SHORT, WE
10:14:59 HAVE A GREAT BUILDING THERE, BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING, THAT
10:15:02 WE HAVE BEEN SINCE 1986 WHEN THE BUILDING OPENED.
10:15:06 AND IT IS DYING WITH EVERYTHING AROUND IT, BEING SUFFOCATED
10:15:13 BY TRAFFIC ISSUES.
10:15:14 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:15:15 CONSIDERATION.
10:15:16 THANK YOU.
10:15:16 >> MY NAME IS RACHEL.
10:15:26 I LIVE IN YBOR CITY AS WELL.
10:15:28 AND I LIVED THERE KNOWING THAT THERE WERE CHICKENS.
10:15:32 AND I AM NOT AGAINST THE CHICKENS.
10:15:34 LIKE MY HUSBAND SAID, AND CHARLIE AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE,
10:15:38 WE DON'T HATE CHICKENS.

10:15:40 WE LIKE THE CHICKENS.
10:15:42 WE JUST DON'T LIKE THE ABUNDANCE OF CHICKENS.
10:15:45 AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR SOME HELP TO NEUTRALIZE SO THEY DON'T
10:15:50 KEEP OUT OF CONTROL, BECAUSE THEY DIG UP YARDS, THEY CAUSE
10:15:55 PROBLEMS.
10:15:56 THEY DO CHASE PEOPLE.
10:15:58 ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT WERE DROPPED OFF.
10:16:03 THEY CHASE YOU.
10:16:05 BUT ALSO, THE ORDINANCE, THEY ARE NOT REALLY WILD BECAUSE
10:16:13 THEY ARE FED.
10:16:17 THEY ARE NOT WILD ANYMORE.
10:16:19 SO THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY NOT THE WILD CHICKENS.
10:16:24 AND WE WOULD LIKE SOME HELP, IF YOU DON'T MIND GETTING RID
10:16:30 OF SOME OF THE CHICKENS.
10:16:33 IN YBOR CITY.
10:16:34 THANK YOU.
10:16:34 >> MY NAME IS ANN MARIE AYERS, AND WITH A GLOBAL REAL ESTATE
10:16:46 FIRM.
10:16:46 I REPRESENT BOTH FIFTH THIRD AND BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA IN
10:16:50 DOWNTOWN TAMPA AS TWO OF MY CLIENTS.
10:16:54 PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, I HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE IN
10:16:59 DOWNTOWN FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
10:17:00 I LOVE THIS CITY.
10:17:01 I CAME BACK FROM COLLEGE AT THE HYATT AND TAMPA CITY CENTER
10:17:08 WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

10:17:09 AND WE ARE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON ANOTHER VERY SIMILAR TIME IN
10:17:13 OUR LIVES IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA WITH DEVELOPMENT.
10:17:20 BUT IT'S GOT TO BE SOLVED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUILD WITHOUT
10:17:24 TENANTS, AND TENANTS WILL NOT COME TO AN AREA THAT THEY
10:17:27 CAN'T PARK, AND THEY HAVE HEARD STORIES, AND IT'S ON THE
10:17:32 NEWS, THAT THEY CANNOT GET OUT OF THEIR BUILDING.
10:17:36 I AM LUCKY THAT I CAN STAY AT THE OFFICE TILL 7:00 OR 7:30
10:17:40 OR WHATEVER TIME I NEED TO.
10:17:41 I DON'T HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN TO GET HOME TO.
10:17:45 SO I CAN LEAVE OR I CAN LEAVE EARLY.
10:17:48 I HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IN MY SCHEDULE.
10:17:50 MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
10:17:53 SO WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS, BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA, FOR
10:17:58 INSTANCE, IT'S THE LARGEST BUILDING ON THE WEST COAST OF
10:18:01 FLORIDA.
10:18:01 IT'S ALMOST 800,000 SQUARE FEET.
10:18:05 AND THE EVALUATION OF THAT BUILDING, IT WAS BUILT ON THE
10:18:10 TELETENANTS RENTS.
10:18:12 AND IF THOSE RENTS DECREASE BECAUSE THEN THE VALUES OF THE
10:18:17 BUILDING DECREASES, AND ALSO REAL ESTATE TAXES.
10:18:21 THIS HAS A SEVERE IMPACT ON WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
10:18:24 DO IN OUR CITY.
10:18:27 YOU HAVE TO HELP US GET THESE PEOPLE OUT OF THE OFFICE
10:18:32 BUILDING.
10:18:33 IT IS DANGEROUS.

10:18:34 PEOPLE ARE SITTING THERE.
10:18:36 CAN YOU IMAGINE SITTING THERE PHONE AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND A
10:18:40 HALF IN YOUR CAR?
10:18:42 A LOT OF PEOPLE ONLY HAVE AN 8th OF A TANK SOMETIMES.
10:18:47 CAN YOU IMAGINE THE FEAR OF RUNNING OUT OF GAS AND HAVING 50
10:18:51 PEOPLE BEHIND YOU, HAVE MEDICATION THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE,
10:18:56 HAVE TO USE THE RESTROOM?
10:18:58 THESE ARE BASIC NEEDS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.
10:19:01 OF COURSE, MY COMPETITION IS GOING TO USE THIS, AND NEWS
10:19:12 LAST NIGHT.
10:19:13 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:19:14 OH, THERE WE GO.
10:19:15 WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU IS HELP US.
10:19:18 WE HAVE TRADE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND UNSUCCESSFULLY.
10:19:21 WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:19:26 LET THEM WIN THE SMALL BATTLE AND LET'S REMEMBER
10:19:32 STRATEGICALLY WE ARE TRYING TO GROW THE CITY INTO THE
10:19:34 FABULOUS CITY THAT IT CAN BE.
10:19:36 THANK YOU.
10:19:37 >> STEPHANI HARRISON, RESIDENT OF YBOR, 1500 NORTH 15th
10:19:46 STREET.
10:19:47 JUST WANT TO ECHO ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT BE SHE SAID.
10:19:53 CHICKENS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED TO YBOR.
10:19:56 I LOVE LIVING IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
10:19:58 I LOVE WALKING AROUND.

10:19:59 I LOVE SEEING THEM.
10:20:00 HOWEVER, WELL MEANING NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE AROUND THE
10:20:02 NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE STARTED FEEDING THEM.
10:20:04 OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE TWO 50-POUND BAGS OF FEED ON THEIR FRONT
10:20:08 PORCH.
10:20:09 AND THEY ARE ANIMAL LOVERS AND I GET IT.
10:20:12 BUT WHEN YOU START FEEDING THE WILD ANIMALS THEY ARE NO
10:20:16 LONGER WILD.
10:20:17 THEY ARE BEING DOMESTICATED SO OUR BACKYARD IS TURNED INTO A
10:20:20 CHICKEN COOP.
10:20:21 I CAN'T WALK OUT THERE WITHOUT STEPPING ON POOP OR STEPPING
10:20:24 ON AN EGG WHICH I DON'T WANT TO DO.
10:20:27 ALL THE CHICKENS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS TRYING TO GET RID
10:20:31 OF THE CHICKENS. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO CONTROL THE
10:20:33 POPULATION SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE.
10:20:36 OKAY.
10:20:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: IS THAT IT FOR THE CHICKEN-SPEAKING PART OF
10:20:46 THIS?
10:20:47 OKAY.
10:20:48 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
10:20:50 I GREW UP IN YBOR CITY.
10:20:51 I STARTED FIRST GRADE VM YBOR ELEMENTARY.
10:20:55 MY GRANDFATHER HAD CHICKENS AND GEESE IN HIS BACKYARD.
10:21:00 THEY WERE FOR FOOD.
10:21:03 THAT'S HOW CHICKENS CAME INTO YBOR, FOR THEIR EGGS AND I

10:21:09 WITH MY GRANDMOTHER PREPARING CHICKENS FOR DINNER.
10:21:14 SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT YBOR'S HISTORY AND CHICKENS, THAT'S
10:21:17 HOW IT STARTED.
10:21:18 WE ARE NOT EATING THEM NOW.
10:21:22 WE EAT THEM FROM PUBLIX.
10:21:23 WE DON'T EAT THEM FROM THE STREET.
10:21:25 SO WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE COMMENTS, YOU NEED TO CLARIFY HOW
10:21:29 THAT STARTED.
10:21:30 AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR OF WHY THEY WERE THERE IN THE
10:21:33 FIRST PLACE.
10:21:37 SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON
10:21:39 CHICKENS.
10:21:40 THANK YOU.
10:21:40 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING.
10:21:46 MARILYN HEALY, AKERMAN, LLP, REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THE
10:21:54 BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING, AND WE ARE THE LARGEST BUILDING
10:21:59 AND THE LARGEST PARKING GARAGE ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA.
10:22:04 IT'S A PREMIER BUILDING.
10:22:05 WE HAVE GREAT TENANTS.
10:22:06 OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, THROUGH THE VISION PLAN, THIS
10:22:10 CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, HAVE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD
10:22:13 TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR URBAN CORE GETS DEVELOPED FOR PEOPLE
10:22:17 THAT WANT TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
10:22:19 BUT THAT GROWTH DOESN'T OCCUR IN A VACUUM.
10:22:22 AND IT DOES NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES

10:22:27 AND CONSTRAINTS.
10:22:29 SINCE 2016, OUR BUILDING MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS CONTACTED
10:22:36 D.O.T. AND THE CITY TELLING THEM ABOUT THE CONGESTION
10:22:38 ISSUES.
10:22:39 OUR MEDIA INTERESTS -- IMMEDIATE INTEREST OBVIOUSLY IS THE
10:22:43 GARAGE.
10:22:43 PEOPLE GET STUCK IN THERE.
10:22:45 IT'S AWFUL.
10:22:46 AND THERE'S GOING TO BE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES THAT HAPPEN WITH
10:22:49 THAT.
10:22:50 BUT GOD FORBID ONCE YOU GET OUT TO GO OUT, GET GRIDLOCK.
10:22:55 PEOPLE ARE RUNNING RED LIGHTS.
10:22:56 THEY ARE STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE.
10:22:58 PEDESTRIANS ARE GOING THROUGH.
10:22:59 A LADY WAS HIT FROM RIVERGATE TOWERS TRYING TO CROSS.
10:23:04 IT'S A MESS.
10:23:06 YES, SHORT-TERM, WITH RESURFACING.
10:23:13 THEY STARTED WAY BEFORE AND THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WAY
10:23:16 AFTER UNLESS WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF EFFECTIVE
10:23:18 SOLUTION.
10:23:19 I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF ARE EXCELLENT.
10:23:23 I HAVE MET WITH D.O.T. YESTERDAY AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY,
10:23:27 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF BRAINS SITTING AROUND THAT TABLE THAT
10:23:30 CAN COME UP WITH SOME EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS THAT DON'T PUT US
10:23:34 IN THE POSITION WHERE, YEAH, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GREAT BUT

10:23:39 WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO COME SO OUR ROADS NEVER GET STARTED
10:23:43 THE WAY WE WANT IT TO GET STARTED, THE WAY WE NEED IT TO GET
10:23:46 STARTED FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:23:48 SO ON BEHALF OF CAPITAL BUT ALSO IN THE DEVELOPMENTS WE KNOW
10:23:55 THAT ARE COMING ON LINE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE REALLY
10:23:58 NEED TO GET AHOLD OF THIS NOW.
10:24:00 I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO, THAT THIS IS
10:24:03 NEAR AND DEAR TO THEIR HEART.
10:24:05 AND I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU ASK D.O.T. TO PLEASE LISTEN AND
10:24:09 WORK WITH US AND NOT PUT, FOR EXAMPLE, A BIKE LANE SEGMENT
10:24:14 THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR DOUBLE DOOR DELIVERY.
10:24:19 IT GOES NOWHERE.
10:24:21 YOU RUN INTO THE ASHLEY JACKSON NIGHTMARE.
10:24:26 SO PLEASE HELP US.
10:24:31 WE WILL BE HERE WHEN YOU SEE THE REPORT AND I HAVE THE
10:24:34 TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH US AS WELL IF ANYBODY HAS ANY
10:24:37 QUESTIONS.
10:24:37 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE HEARD A RUMOR AND WAITED FOR
10:24:42 SOMEONE TO SAY THAT WE REPRESENT THE CITY.
10:24:46 THE RUMOR WAS THAT I HAVE HEARD, I DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE IT
10:24:49 IS, JUST A RUMOR, THAT YOU WERE DIRECTED BY THE DEPARTMENT
10:24:53 OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THE BASE WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY?
10:24:58 AM I CORRECT?
10:25:00 I'M NOT TRYING TO GET YOU INVOLVED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF

10:25:03 TRANSPORTATION.
10:25:04 THEY CAN HANDLE ME AND I CAN HANDLE THEM.
10:25:06 >> THE DISTRICT HAS A NEW DISTRICT SECRETARY.
10:25:10 DAVID GLEN.
10:25:12 AND WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL WITH HIS LEADERSHIP THAT HE'S GOING
10:25:17 TO WORK AND HIS STAFF WORK WITH THE CITY.
10:25:23 A COMMENT WAS BASICALLY MADE, LET'S PUT IT IN, SEE WHAT
10:25:26 HAPPENS AND WHY YOU HAVE THESE DELIVERIES.
10:25:31 BUT WE WERE PERMITTED TO HAVE THEM IN 1985.
10:25:34 THEY ARE LEGAL.
10:25:37 AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS AVOID A SITUATION WHERE YOU
10:25:39 HAVE THESE 18 WHEELER TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE,
10:25:42 AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE RIDING BIKES THERE NOW BUT
10:25:45 HOPEFULLY WHEN ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, WE'LL
10:25:48 HAVE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE RIVERWALK AND THE PARK.
10:25:52 BUT I AM NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
10:25:55 BUT I DRIVE THAT DAILY.
10:25:56 AND I DEAL WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS IN DEVELOPMENT
10:26:00 THAT WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
10:26:02 THERE'S WAYS THAT WE GET PEOPLE TO THE RIVERWALK THAT THEY
10:26:06 ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE.
10:26:07 AND WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH D.O.T.
10:26:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:26:17 IN FACT, A LITTLE PARKING AREA WE HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO
10:26:21 BUILDINGS, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN BLIND WHEN THEY PUT THAT 12

10:26:28 FEET BY 3 FEET BARRICADE THERE.
10:26:30 IT LOOKS LIKE A FOXHOLE FOR THE ENEMY.
10:26:32 YOU CAN'T GET IN AND OUT, OUT OF THIS BUILDING HERE, MAKING
10:26:35 A LEFT-HAND TURN.
10:26:37 YOU HAVE TO CROSS OVER, GO AROUND BACK TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND
10:26:39 TURN, AND IN YOUR AREA THERE ON JACKSON AND ASHLEY WHERE YOU
10:26:43 HAVE LIKE A LOCATION THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING FROM
10:26:46 THE ART THAT WAS CREATED 100 YEARS AGO, IT LOOKS LIKE A
10:26:50 BUMPER CAR CONTEST.
10:26:53 EXISTING OF THE HOTEL AND THE LEFT TURN, AND CARS COMING IN,
10:26:59 AND THEN IT BACKS UP EIGHT BLOCKS DOWN AND WHEN THAT BACKS
10:27:02 UP, THAT'S LIGHTS AREN'T COORDINATED AND YOU STAND THERE AND
10:27:08 KEEPS BACKING UP.
10:27:09 SO I HOPE SOMEBODY HAS AN ANSWER THAT HAS A LOT MORE BRAINS
10:27:12 THAN WHAT THEY HAVE EXHIBITED SO FAR.
10:27:14 >> WELL, WE NEED YOUR HELP ON.
10:27:16 THAT BECAUSE I HEARD AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY EVEN WHERE THE
10:27:19 SIGNALIZATION AND ALL OF THAT IS COMPLETED ON THE CITY'S
10:27:22 END, THAT'S ONLY 20% OF THE ISSUE.
10:27:25 SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A PLAN ON
10:27:31 PAPER THAT DOESN'T PRACTICALLY WORK WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE
10:27:35 MIDDLE OF TAMPA.
10:27:36 WE ARE NOT AGAINST BIKE LANES.
10:27:39 WE WANT THAT.
10:27:39 YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.

10:27:40 BUT IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK, AND TO BUILD IT AND HOPE NO
10:27:45 ONE GETS HURT, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
10:27:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:27:48 BUT NOT ONLY THAT INTERSECTION BUT THE ONE NEXT TO IT ON
10:27:52 ASHLEY AND KENNEDY, IT'S VERY CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC.
10:27:54 YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT ON KENNEDY HEADING SOUTH ON ASHLEY.
10:27:58 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:28:00 BUT PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT AND TOURISTS, THEY DON'T
10:28:03 UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:28:04 AND THERE'S SO MANY CLOSE CALLS THERE.
10:28:05 AND I AM OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG, I AM JUST DRIVING IN TO GET
10:28:10 TO BE CITY HALL AND I SEE THIS ON A DAILY BASIS AND I
10:28:13 WONDER, WHAT EINSTEIN IS DOING THIS?
10:28:15 AND FINALLY I FOUND OUT WHO THE SIGN STEIN IS.
10:28:19 >> IT'S NOT CITY STAFF.
10:28:20 I AM TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT WITH THE RIGHT DIRECTION FROM
10:28:23 CITY COUNCIL, I KNOW IT'S FROM ADMINISTRATION AND I KNOW YOU
10:28:27 ALL HERE.
10:28:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LOSS OF RESOURCES, THE BRICK STREET IS
10:28:33 GONE, THEY PUT A LITTLE THING IN WEST TAMPA FAILED 20 YEARS
10:28:36 AGO WHEN YOU -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO PLANT
10:28:39 THERE.
10:28:39 MAYBE NOT PLANT ANYTHING AT ALL.
10:28:41 BUT TO COME OUT SIX OR EIGHT FEET AND MAKE SOMETHING 10 FEET
10:28:44 WIDE, I TELL MYSELF, WOW.

10:28:46 >> SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING ON PAPER THAT THEY WON'T
10:28:50 BUDGE FROM.
10:28:51 BECAUSE HE HAS CONTROL, IF YOU WOULD, OF KENNEDY AS IT
10:28:53 SWINGS AROUND THERE.
10:28:54 AND THIS IS PART OF THEIR RESURFACING, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE
10:28:59 THE COMMUNITY BETTER PROGRAM.
10:29:02 SO YOU SEEM TO BE INTO OPEN TO A DIALOGUE YESTERDAY.
10:29:07 I DON'T KNOW.
10:29:10 WE NEED YOUR HELP BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO HAVE OBVIOUSLY
10:29:13 HAS IMPACT ON THE BANK OF AMERICA FOLKS.
10:29:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:29:18 >> BUT EVERYBODY ELSE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
10:29:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF IT HURTS BANK AMERICA IT'S GOING TO
10:29:25 HURT EVERYBODY.
10:29:26 IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING BIGGER COMING.
10:29:28 >> WELL, THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT NOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO
10:29:31 IT ON OUR OWN AND WE NEED YOUR HELP.
10:29:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:29:37 >>HARRY COHEN: I WILL OBVIOUSLY TALK ABOUT THIS MORE WHEN
10:29:41 THE ITEM COMES UP.
10:29:42 BUT YESTERDAY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BANK OF AMERICA TOWER,
10:29:45 FDOT AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ALL MET HERE AT CITY HALL.
10:29:49 WE MET DOWNSTAIRS.
10:29:50 AND WE MET FOR OVER AN HOUR AND THE DISTRICT SECRETARY WAS
10:29:54 HERE ALONG WITH MRS. DUNCAN AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.

10:29:57 AND I THINK THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CATALYSTS FOR THIS.
10:30:01 OBVIOUSLY THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE BUILDING, THE SAME
10:30:04 COMPLAINTS WERE COMING OUT OF THE COUNTY CENTER WHERE PEOPLE
10:30:06 WERE STUCK IN THEIR GARAGE FOR INTERMINABLE PERIODS OF TIME.
10:30:10 BUT THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS
10:30:12 UNDER CONSTRUCTION WE WERE ALL TAKING DIFFERENT ROUTES TO
10:30:16 GET HERE THAN WE NORMALLY DID AND WE FOUND OURSELVES
10:30:18 INVOLVED IN JUST UNBELIEVABLE TRAFFIC MESSES COMING IN HERE.
10:30:22 AND YOU COULD SEE PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF THE BANK
10:30:24 OF AMERICA PARK LOT THAT ARE LITERALLY SITTING THERE
10:30:28 WAITING, CYCLE AFTER CYCLE AFTER CYCLE OF THE LIGHTS, DON'T
10:30:32 CHANGE.
10:30:33 MY SENSE FROM D.O.T. YESTERDAY IS THAT THEY ARE AT LEAST
10:30:37 BECOMING MUCH MORE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM, AND THEY DID
10:30:41 COMMITTEE TO US -- AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN
10:30:44 NUMBER WILL 2 -- THAT WITHIN 45 DAYS THEY WOULD COME BACK
10:30:48 WITH SOME PLANS AFTER COORDINATING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:30:52 THE PROBLEM IS, MUCH OF WHAT IS BEING OFFERED AS A SOLUTION
10:31:01 IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:31:01 AND THAT'S I THINK ONE OF THE REAL BIG ISSUES.
10:31:04 EVEN IF THEY START PURCHASING THE SOFTWARE FOR THE LIGHTS,
10:31:08 IF THEY START CHANGING SOME OF THE TURN LANES AND MAKING
10:31:14 JUDGMENTS TO THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
10:31:16 QUICKLY ENOUGH TO SOLVE WHAT HAS BECOME A VERY ACUTE
10:31:19 PROBLEM.

10:31:20 I JUST WANT TO SAY -- AND WE CAN GET INTO IT MORE LATER --
10:31:24 IS THAT OFTENTIMES THE SOLUTION THAT GETS OFFERED FOR
10:31:27 DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM IS TO HIGHER -- HIRE MORE LAW
10:31:31 ENFORCEMENT TO BE ON THE SCENE.
10:31:33 AND WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD NOT JUST YESTERDAY IN THAT MEETING
10:31:37 BUT IN DEALING WITH HOWARD AVENUE AND OTHER UNRELATED i,
10:31:40 IS THAT THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFICULTY HIRING
10:31:44 OFF-DUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO THIS EXTRA WORK.
10:31:47 IT IS NOT PLEASANT WORK.
10:31:48 IT IS DIFFICULT.
10:31:51 CARS ARE VERY AGITATED WHEN THEY FINALLY GET INTO THE
10:31:56 INTERSECTION SORRY SO THEY ARE GOING RIGHT AND LEFT AND
10:31:59 OFTENTIMES DOING VERY UNSAFE MANEUVERS IN ORDER TO MOVE
10:32:03 AROUND.
10:32:03 SO THE ANSWER JUST THROWING PERSONNEL AT IT REGARDLESS OF
10:32:07 WHAT HO IS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT ISN'T GOING TO BE AN BE
10:32:11 ANSWER IF THERE'S NOT PEOPLE THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT ARE
10:32:13 WILLING TO DO THE WORK.
10:32:14 AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM.
10:32:18 THOSE ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW.
10:32:20 BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THIS
10:32:22 WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP FROM BOTH OUR CITY DEPARTMENT AS WELL
10:32:26 AS D.O.T.
10:32:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT BUT I'LL
10:32:32 WAIT TILL THE ITEM COMES UP ON THAT.

10:32:36 THANK YOU.
10:32:36 >> JERRY FRANKHOUSER, T.H.A.N. PRESIDENT.
10:32:45 AND I AM HERE TODAY FOR ONE THING, BUT I READ ANOTHER THING.
10:32:51 YOU KNOW HOW T.H.A.N. IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DIGITAL SIGNS
10:32:54 AND SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:32:58 NUMBER 5 SHOWS UP ON THE AGENDA TODAY, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW
10:33:01 ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
10:33:02 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS OR WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS FOR,
10:33:06 OR ANYTHING.
10:33:07 SO I AM VERY FLUMMOXED, I GUESS IS THE WORD, THAT WE DIDN'T
10:33:14 GET ANY NOTICE ON WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT.
10:33:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:33:21 ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?
10:33:22 >> MY NAME IS NICOL WINKLER.
10:33:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
10:33:38 THIS IS A NEW THING FOR ME.
10:33:40 I AM HERE TO REPRESENT THE TAMPA MUSIC FOUNDATION AND OUR
10:33:42 COMMUNITY.
10:33:44 MOST PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY KNOW MY HUSBAND, ADAM AND I,
10:33:48 OKTOBERFEST TAMPA, AS IT IS A CULTURAL EVENT THAT WE HAVE
10:33:51 PRODUCED AND INVESTED IN THIS CITY FOR NOW GOING ON NINE
10:33:54 YEARS, ALMOST A DECADE.
10:33:56 THROUGHOUT THAT TIME FRAME, WE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY
10:34:00 BEFORE ALL OF THE RIVERWALK WAS CORRECTED.

10:34:04 WE HIRE HUNDREDS OF LOCAL PRODUCERS AND VENDORS AND PEOPLE
10:34:07 THAT LIVE HERE AND WORK HERE LOCALLY IN ORDER TO HELP
10:34:10 PRODUCE OUR EVENTS AND MAKE THEM SAFE FOR ALL.
10:34:13 WE OFFER FREE ACCESS FOR ALL MILITARY MEMBERS AND VETERANS,
10:34:19 AS WELL AS FIRST RESPONDERS.
10:34:20 WE ARE HERE DEDICATED TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL BE
10:34:23 GOING FORWARD.
10:34:25 CURRENTLY, MY HUSBAND AND I STARTED THE TAMPA MUSIC
10:34:29 FOUNDATION IN 2017.
10:34:31 WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE US A VEHICLE TO
10:34:33 GIVE BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY.
10:34:36 WITH THAT WE STARTED A BRAND WHICH WE THINK HAS THE
10:34:41 OPPORTUNITY TO BE AS BIG AS SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST IN AUSTIN
10:34:44 TEXAS WHICH IS KNOWN AROUND THE NATION AS A VERY BIG
10:34:46 CULTURAL ATTRACTION TO ITS CITY.
10:34:48 RIGHT NOW, OUR FOUNDATION IS AT RISK OF WRONGFULLY BEING
10:34:53 REMOVED FROM AN APPROVED CURTIS HIXON PARK LOCATION FOR OUR
10:34:57 SECOND ANNUAL EVENT ON APRIL 6, 2019.
10:35:01 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ALL NONPROFITS IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT
10:35:04 I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT AS GET I
10:35:10 KNOW IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE.
10:35:12 I ASK EVER THAT YOU SUPPORT US IN THE NEW BUSINESS SECTION,
10:35:15 THAT YOU ADDRESS OUR SITUATION, AND ALL I ASK IS FOR YOUR
10:35:19 FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT GOING FORWARD.
10:35:22 THANK YOU.

10:35:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: [OFF MICROPHONE] I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE
10:35:36 THE PERSON THAT I SPOKE WITH ON THE PHONE.
10:35:38 >> YES.
10:35:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:35:41 THANK YOU FOR COMING.
10:35:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL WAIT.
10:35:53 I WAS READING SOMETHING A LONG TIME AGO.
10:35:55 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOURS OR ANOTHER ONE BUT I WILL HOLD
10:35:58 IT.
10:35:59 THANK YOU.
10:35:59 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:36:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME
10:36:03 UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:36:05 ALL RIGHT.
10:36:06 DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE
10:36:09 MATTERS?
10:36:10 SEEING NONE.
10:36:11 ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:36:23 ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:36:30 STAFF FOR ITEM NUMBER 5?
10:36:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES COUNCIL WISH A PRESENTATION ON THAT
10:36:35 OR JUST WANT TO READ THE ORDINANCE?
10:36:37 >>HARRY COHEN: I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF MAYBE WE COULD
10:36:45 HOLD THIS AND GET SOME EXPLANATION OF IT.
10:36:47 THERE WAS SOMETHING RAISED IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:36:49 MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS LATER IN THE MEETING.
10:36:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:36:52 MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:36:55 ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:37:09 ANY STAFF PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE HALLWAY OR SOMEWHERE?
10:37:17 ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:37:17 ANYONE FROM STAFF ON ITEM NUMBER 6?
10:37:20 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:37:25 THESE ITEMS ARE YOUR PRIVATELY INITIATED LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:37:28 CODE.
10:37:29 THEY ARE HERE FOR FIRST READING.
10:37:30 THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE AT THE WHEN YOU SCHEDULE IT FOR
10:37:35 YOUR NEXT READING.
10:37:37 THESE ARE HERE JUST FOR FIRST READING.
10:37:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:37:40 IN THAT CASE, MR. SUAREZ, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 6 --
10:37:49 BACK TO NUMBER 5.
10:37:50 >>> AN ORDINANCE PERCENT FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
10:37:57 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FLORIDA RELATING TO SIGNS
10:37:59 MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER
10:38:02 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING SECTION 27-43
10:38:05 DEFINITIONS AMENDING SECTION 27-289.3 ALLOWABLE SIGNS,
10:38:09 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:38:11 THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
10:38:13 EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:38:13 >> SECOND.
10:38:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:38:17 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:38:20 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:38:22 ANY OPPOSED?
10:38:23 >>THE CLERK: CARRIED WITH CAPIN ABSENT AND MIRANDA VOTING
10:38:29 NO.
10:38:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:38:33 >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE
10:38:36 28th, 2018 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:38:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:38:41 MR. COHEN.
10:38:42 >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:38:45 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:38:47 FLORIDA RELATING TO DRY CLEANER DEFINITIONS MAKING REVISIONS
10:38:50 TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND
10:38:54 LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-43, DEFINITIONS,
10:38:58 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:39:01 THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
10:39:03 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:39:03 >> SECOND.
10:39:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:39:08 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:39:12 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:39:13 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

10:39:15 OPPOSED?
10:39:16 OKAY.
10:39:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN BEING ABSENT.
10:39:19 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 28, 2018 AT
10:39:23 9:30 A.M.
10:39:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 7.
10:39:26 MR. MANISCALCO.
10:39:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:39:33 FIRST READING K AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
10:39:35 RELATING TO RIVERWALK PARKING MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF
10:39:38 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND
10:39:41 DEVELOPMENT AMENDING SECTION 27-181.5 WATERFRONT OVERLAY,
10:39:46 RIVERWALK DESIGN REGULATIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-184
10:39:49 OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY AND
10:39:52 SPECIAL USES, REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING RATIOS BY USE,
10:39:56 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:39:58 THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
10:40:01 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:40:01 >> SECOND.
10:40:02 >> GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:40:05 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:40:06 DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:40:07 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:40:09 OPPOSED?
10:40:09 >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON

10:40:13 JUNE 28, 2018 AT 9:30 A.M. AND CAPIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:40:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 8.
10:40:23 MR. MIRANDA.
10:40:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FILE 2018-WILL-CHAPTER 27.
10:40:32 MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
10:40:34 ORDINANCE APPROVING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
10:40:38 EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:40:41 RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
10:40:44 BRIAN SPACE AND GINA BRILEY SPACE LOCATED AT 1404 SOUTH
10:40:49 DESOTO AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC
10:40:53 DISTRICT BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO
10:40:56 PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROVIDING FOR
10:40:59 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10:41:01 CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:41:02 >> SECOND.
10:41:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:41:06 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE?
10:41:08 OPPOSED?
10:41:08 ALL RIGHT.
10:41:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:41:13 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON JUNE 28, 2018 AT 9:30
10:41:17 A.M.
10:41:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:41:21 PUBLIC SAFETY, MR. MIRANDA.
10:41:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 12.

10:41:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR
10:41:33 OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:41:34 OPPOSED?
10:41:35 OKAY.
10:41:37 PARKS RECREATION AND CULTURAL.
10:41:39 MR. MANISCALCO.
10:41:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 13 THROUGH 17.
10:41:42 >> SECOND.
10:41:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:41:45 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:41:46 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:41:50 SHALL.
10:41:51 >>THE CLERK: MAY I CLARIFY?
10:41:55 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
10:41:59 >> SO MOVED TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTION.
10:42:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND FOR THE SUBSTITUTION.
10:42:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:42:10 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA TO INCLUDE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
10:42:15 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:42:16 OPPOSED?
10:42:17 OKAY.
10:42:18 PUBLIC WORKS, MR. MANISCALCO.
10:42:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 31.
10:42:24 >> SECOND.
10:42:29 >>CHAIRMAN: SECOND BY MR. COHEN.

10:42:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:31 OPPOSED?
10:42:31 OKAY.
10:42:34 FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. COHEN.
10:42:35 >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE ITEMS 32 THROUGH 35, AND 37 THROUGH
10:42:42 41.
10:42:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:42:44 69 MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:42:45 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:42:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:48 OPPOSED?
10:42:51 BUILDING ZONING PRESERVATION.
10:42:53 MR. VIERA.
10:42:53 >>LUIS VIERA: AND A QUESTION.
10:42:57 I UNFORTUNATELY CAME IN LATE BUT ITEM NUMBER 59 HAS BEEN
10:43:00 ADDRESSED YET?
10:43:01 >> NO, WE RE MOVED IT.
10:43:03 >> I HEREBY MOVE ITEMS 42 THROUGH 58 AND 60.
10:43:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
10:43:14 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:43:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:16 OPPOSED?
10:43:17 OKAY.
10:43:18 TRANSPORTATION.
10:43:19 MR. SUAREZ.

10:43:34 SO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE?
10:43:35 MOTION TO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE.
10:43:37 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:43:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:40 OPPOSED?
10:43:41 ALL RIGHT.
10:43:43 TRANSPORTATION.
10:43:43 MR. SUAREZ.
10:43:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE ITEM 61.
10:43:47 >> SECOND.
10:43:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: THOSE THE ONLY ONE?
10:43:55 MOVED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:43:56 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:43:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:58 OPPOSED?
10:43:59 ALL RIGHT.
10:43:59 >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE ITEMS 62 THROUGH 66.
10:44:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: CAN WE DO THEM ALL AT ONCE?
10:44:14 >>HARRY COHEN: THERE'S A SUBSTITUTION ON 63 AND THAT'S
10:44:16 SETTING HEARINGS FOR LATER IN THE YEAR.
10:44:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE CAN DO IT ALL AT ONCE?
10:44:20 >> YES.
10:44:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:44:23 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:44:24 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

10:44:25 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE?
10:44:27 OPPOSED?
10:44:28 ALL RIGHT.
10:44:33 >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO OPEN ITEMS OF 67 THROUGH 77.
10:44:43 >> SECOND.
10:44:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:44:44 77?
10:44:47 YOU MADE A MOTION --
10:44:51 >>HARRY COHEN: THROUGH 77.
10:44:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 67.
10:44:58 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:45:00 OPPOSED?
10:45:03 ALL RIGHT.
10:45:03 IS ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 67 THROUGH 77?
10:45:15 PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN.
10:45:16 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
10:45:28 ITEM NUMBER 67.
10:45:29 >>ELAINE LUND: HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
10:45:32 I'M HERE WITH A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED HISTORIC
10:45:42 LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE STRINGER STALNAKER HOUSE.
10:45:47 THE PRESENTATION IS UP ON YOUR SCREEN?
10:45:55 YOU CAN SEE A 1913 PANORAMIC PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING EAST TOWARD
10:46:05 YBOR CHANNEL AND SOUTH TOWARDS THE BAY THERE.
10:46:08 AND THE LOWER LEFT SIDE OF THE PANORAMIC PHOTOGRAPH YOU CAN
10:46:12 SEE THE CITY HALL THAT WAS IN PLACE AT THAT TIME AND THE

10:46:14 LITTLE BUILDING NEXT TO IT FACING JACKSON STREET.
10:46:17 AND THAT'S THE HOUSE THAT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY.
10:46:21 THE PHOTO SHOWS THE HOUSE AFTER IT WAS RELOCATED IN THE
10:46:27 LATER LOCATION.
10:46:33 IN 1842, THE STRINGER FAMILY CAME TO TAMPA AND BUILT THIS
10:46:39 HOUSE AT THE CORNER OF JACKSON AND MONROE STREET.
10:46:44 THE 1850 CENSUS FOR TAMPA, 1845, SO THE FIRST CENSUS FOR THE
10:46:54 CITY IN 1850, THEN WE SEE MARY STRINGER WAS THE WIDOW, WAS A
10:47:05 RESIDENCE AT THAT TIME ALONG WITH THREE OF HER CHILDREN AND
10:47:07 ONE OF THEM WAS SHELDON WHO IN 1859 GRADUATED FROM TULANE
10:47:12 UNIVERSITY WITH A DEGREE IN MEDICINE AND HE RETURNED TO
10:47:14 TAMPA TO PRACTICE OUT OF HIS HOUSE.
10:47:25 THE STRINGER FAMILY EVENTUALLY OWNED THE ENTIRE EAST HALF OF
10:47:30 THE CURRENT BLOCK NOW.
10:47:34 IN 1890 THE CITY BOUGHT APPORTION OF THE CITY BLOCK TO BUILD
10:47:39 THE BUILDING WHICH IS THERE WHICH THIS BUILDING INCLUDED THE
10:47:42 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY AT
10:47:45 THAT TIME AS WELL AS THE JAIL.
10:47:53 SHOWING YOU THIS IMAGE AGAIN HERE.
10:48:01 IN THAT SHOT WE HAVE A STRUCTURE FROM WHEN IT WAS LOCATED
10:48:05 WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS NOW FACING JACKSON STREET.
10:48:08 IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE.
10:48:10 AND THEN VERY TYPICAL.
10:48:14 IN 1914 THE CITY PURCHASED THE REST OF THE STRINGER PROPERTY
10:48:21 TO BUILD THE CITY HALL THAT WE ARE STANDING IN NOW AND THE

10:48:24 JAIL THAT USED TO BE TO THE SOUTH OF US HERE.
10:48:29 THE HOUSE WAS SOLD BY THE MAYOR TO THE STALNAKER BROTHERS
10:48:33 WHO HAD A BUSINESS IN YBOR CITY AT THAT TIME AND THE
10:48:39 STALNAKERS, THIS IS THE HOUSE AND MOVED ALL THE PARTS AND
10:48:46 REASSEMBLES IT ON GARY AT 8th AVENUE AT 32ND STREET.
10:48:51 AND THE HOME OF STALNAKER AND HIS FAMILY UNTIL 1849 WHEN HE
10:48:55 PASSED AWAY.
10:48:59 THE HOUSE REMAINED IN GARY UNTIL RECENTLY ON 8th STREET
10:49:04 THERE, AND IN 1842 THE HOUSE MOVED TO THE EAST TO GARY, THE
10:49:19 PURPLE MARKER AND RECENTLY HAS BEEN MOVED WHERE THE GREEN
10:49:23 MARKER IS TO THE WEST, ON CLEVELAND STREET.
10:49:35 THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY, THE FIRST CHARTER THAT THE CITY
10:49:41 HAD IN 1855 AND THEN THE 18 WILL 7 -- 1887 CHARTER IN GREEN
10:49:46 AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT ANNEXATION WAS SHOWN IN OTHER COLORS
10:49:52 THERE.
10:49:54 SO THE HOUSE ON 8th AVENUE, LOOKS LIKE IT ON THE WEST
10:50:00 SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN THERE.
10:50:03 UNTIL THE CURRENT OWNER PURCHASED THEM TO PREPARE IT FOR ITS
10:50:07 RELOCATION OR LOCATION AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF
10:50:10 THE SCREEN, THE CURBING AND JACKED UP PREPARING IT FOR THE
10:50:20 MOVE THERE.
10:50:24 THE BUILDING WAS MOVED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
10:50:29 THE BUILDING IS IN THREE PARTS.
10:50:30 THEY TOOK THE ROOF OFF AND THE MOVED THE MAIN HOUSE FIRST,
10:50:37 THE ROOF, AND THE REAR KITCHEN.

10:50:42 AND THIS IS A FEW SHOTS OF THE HOUSE AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION
10:50:46 AT 2111 WEST CLEVELAND STREET.
10:50:49 AGAIN THE ROOF BACK ON AFTER THE MOVE.
10:50:57 AND HERE ARE SOME PICTURES LAST MONTH OF THE HOUSE CURRENTLY
10:51:02 SITS ON THE SITE.
10:51:05 AND THE CURRENT OWNERS REHABILITATING THE STRUCTURE,
10:51:12 RECEIVED ITS LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND GOING THROUGH THE
10:51:14 CITY'S AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION PROCESS.
10:51:18 AND DOING THE REHABILITATION CONSISTENT WITH THE SECRETARY
10:51:23 OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION.
10:51:28 SO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REVIEWED THE SITE
10:51:35 AND RECOMMENDED IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR LOCAL HISTORIC
10:51:38 LANDMARK DESIGNATION BECAUSE IT MEETS THE BASIC CRITERIA
10:51:43 BEING AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD SINCE IT WAS CONSEQUENCE
10:51:46 INSTRUCTED IN 1842, AND THAT IS SETTLEMENT AND ARCHITECTURE.
10:51:54 THE ONLY KNOWN STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT DATES
10:51:57 FROM THE TERRITORIAL PERIOD FROM BEFORE NEW PORT TAMPA WAS A
10:52:04 CITY, AND IT IS SIGNIFICANT, ALTHOUGH IT IS A SIMPLE FRAME
10:52:09 STRUCTURE, IT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF THAT
10:52:12 ERA,.
10:52:16 SO WITH THAT I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND
10:52:19 THE AGENT FOR THE OWNER IS HERE.
10:52:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:52:24 ALL RIGHT.
10:52:26 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 67?

10:52:30 >> I'M STEPHANI, 633 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET AND I AM HERE ON
10:52:39 BEHALF OF THE OWNER WHO HAS REQUESTED THIS LANDMARK
10:52:41 DESIGNATION.
10:52:43 BRIAN DAVIDSON, THE OWNER AND CEO, AND JUST HERE TO SHOW OUR
10:52:51 SUPPORT FOR IT.
10:52:52 AS YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS, HE'S EXPENDED A LARGE AMOUNT OF
10:52:58 EFFORT AND FUNDS TO SAVE THE BUILDING AND GET IT TO THE
10:53:03 LOCATION WHERE IT IS, AND OF COURSE THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK
10:53:06 TO COME FROM HERE IN TERMS OF ITS REHABILITATION AS AN
10:53:09 OFFICE.
10:53:09 >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU.
10:53:13 I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL.
10:53:15 SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN OFFICE.
10:53:16 WHAT TYPE OF REHAB ARE YOU GOING TO DO ON THE BUILDING LIKE
10:53:19 THIS?
10:53:19 WHAT'S CUSTOMARY NOW THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED?
10:53:22 HOW DOES IT GET --
10:53:24 >> WELL, THE EXTERIOR WILL BE RESTORED BASED ON HISTORIC
10:53:28 PHOTO DOCUMENTATION.
10:53:29 FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE DOCUMENTATION, SOME OF WHICH
10:53:33 ELAINE HAS SHOWN YOU THIS MORNING.
10:53:36 AND THEN THE INTERIOR WILL BE A FUNCTIONING OFFICE.
10:53:41 ALTHOUGH THE FINISHES WILL REFLECT THE EARLY HISTORIC
10:53:44 CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING SUCH AS WOOD FLOORS, ACTUALLY WOOD
10:53:50 PANELING ON THE INTERIOR, LARGELY, THERE ARE SMALL SEGMENTS

10:53:53 OR ONE SMALL SEGMENT OF SOME EARLY WALLPAPER PROBABLY FROM
10:53:57 THE 1880s OR 390s.
10:54:00 SO THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
10:54:01 AND CERTAINLY THE VOLUME, THE HEY CEILINGS, THE WINDOWS WILL
10:54:05 BE IN CHARACTER WITH THE ORIGINAL.
10:54:07 AND SO IT WILL BE A REHAB FOR MODERN USES BUT A HIGH
10:54:13 EMPHASIS ON HISTORIC RESTORATION.
10:54:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
10:54:19 ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 67?
10:54:22 >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:54:25 >> SECOND.
10:54:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:54:27 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:54:28 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:54:30 OPPOSED?
10:54:30 MR. VIERA.
10:54:32 WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 67?
10:54:34 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:54:37 SECOND READING AND CONSIDERATION, AN ORANGES OF THE CITY OF
10:54:40 TAMPA, FLORIDA DESIGNATING THE STRINGER STALNAKER HOUSE
10:54:44 LOCATED AT 2111 WEST CLEVELAND STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE
10:54:49 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL
10:54:52 LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
10:54:55 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:54:56 >> SECOND.

10:54:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA,
10:55:02 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:55:03 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:55:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
10:55:26 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
10:55:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:55:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
10:55:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:55:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:55:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:55:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:55:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 68.
10:55:38 >> CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:55:42 SITE PLAN HAS BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND I AM
10:55:45 AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:55:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:55:49 ANYONE --
10:55:55 >>STEVE MICHELINI: REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:55:56 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:55:59 AS RYAN MANASS -- WE MADE ALL THE CHANGES MADE REQUESTED ON
10:56:07 THE SITE PLAN AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:56:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT ITEM
10:56:11 NUMBER 68ERS FIRST READING, IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE THE SECOND
10:56:16 READING.
10:56:18 ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT?

10:56:19 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THIS SHOULD BE SECOND READING.
10:56:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:56:25 WHEN WE DO THIS, WE WILL BE DOING IT AS SECOND READING.
10:56:28 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
10:56:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER? ANYONE IN
10:56:31 THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 68?
10:56:34 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:56:35 >> SECOND.
10:56:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:56:37 SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
10:56:39 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:56:41 OPPOSED?
10:56:42 ALL RIGHT.
10:56:43 MR. SUAREZ.
10:56:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
10:56:47 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
10:56:50 S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, RESTAURANT, CONSUMPTION ON
10:56:54 PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
10:56:56 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC COP TENT, BEER WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
10:56:59 THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 701 AND
10:57:03 705 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
10:57:06 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:57:09 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:57:12 DATE.
10:57:13 >> SECOND.

10:57:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:57:15 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:57:20 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:57:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
10:57:29 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
10:57:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:57:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
10:57:33 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:57:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:57:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:57:36 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:57:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 69.
10:57:41 >> RYAN MANASSE.
10:57:49 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:57:51 THE ITEM HAS BEEN TURNED IN.
10:57:55 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:57:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:58:00 PETITIONER?
10:58:00 >> REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH REGARDS TO SITE PLAN
10:58:08 PURSUANT TO STAFF'S REQUEST.
10:58:11 I'M AVAILABLE.
10:58:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:58:14 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO BE SPEAK ON ITEM 69?
10:58:16 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:58:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.

10:58:18 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:58:20 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:58:23 OPPOSED?
10:58:24 ALL RIGHT.
10:58:25 MR. COHEN.
10:58:27 OH, I'M SORRY.
10:58:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
10:58:35 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
10:58:37 SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL
10:58:40 VENUE RETAIL PACKAGE SALES FOR OFFPREMISES CONSUMPTION AND
10:58:44 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
10:58:46 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 219 SOUTH
10:58:50 PACKWOOD AVENUE UNIT F, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
10:58:53 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
10:58:57 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN
10:58:59 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:58:59 >> SECOND.
10:59:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:59:04 SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
10:59:06 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:59:06 >>THE CLERK: SUAREZ?
10:59:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO.
10:59:15 >>HARRY COHEN: NO.
10:59:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:59:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.

10:59:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:59:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
10:59:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:59:20 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH SUAREZ, COHEN AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
10:59:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:59:27 ITEM NUMBER 70.
10:59:28 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:59:37 ITEMS 70 THROUGH 74, DID ALL THE REQUIRED CHANGES BETWEEN
10:59:42 FIRST AND SECOND READING TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND I
10:59:45 BELIEVE ALL APPLICANTS ARE PRESENT.
10:59:47 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:59:49 THANK YOU.
10:59:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:59:52 ALL RIGHT.
10:59:52 >> RON WEAVER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET ON BEHALF OF THE
11:00:03 APPLICANT PUBLIX, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:00:10 WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:00:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:00:14 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 70?
11:00:16 >> MY NAME IS SUSAN ROSETTI. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF BEACH
11:00:25 PARK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THERE WERE A FEW ISSUES THAT
11:00:28 I HAD ASKED MR. WEAVER TO FIND OUT THE INFORMATION.
11:00:32 I DON'T KNOW IF HE ANSWERED OR NOT.
11:00:35 ONE WAS DIMMING THE LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT OFFER THE
11:00:40 STORE CLOSES SO IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A STADIUM.

11:00:45 THE OTHER ONE WAS THICKER HEDGES, EXITING THE PARKING LOT
11:00:50 WOULD NOT BE SHINING THE LIGHT INTO THE RESIDENCES.
11:00:55 I WOULD LIKE TO BE SURE THAT THOSE HEDGES ARE GOING TO BE
11:00:58 SUFFICIENT.
11:01:00 AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE ACCESS ISSUES AS WELL.
11:01:08 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, ASK THE CITY TO HELP US BY DOING --
11:01:17 HAVING NO-PARKING SIGNS, HAVING FOUR-WAY STOPS PUT IN, AND I
11:01:21 KNOW THAT MR. COHEN MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE DONE
11:01:27 BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WAS SUFFICIENT OR WHETHER ANOTHER
11:01:31 MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVED AND MAKE
11:01:34 SURE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS LOOKED AT, AND MY SUGGESTIONS
11:01:43 IMPLEMENTED.
11:01:43 >>HARRY COHEN: THERE IS ANOTHER MOTION REQUIRED AND I
11:01:48 APOLOGIZE.
11:01:48 I PROMISED I WOULD MAKE IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND I
11:01:51 FORGOT.
11:01:52 BUT WE'LL MAKE IT TODAY.
11:01:53 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:02 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 SOUTH SHERILL.
11:02:04 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:02:05 I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE FIRST HEARING.
11:02:09 AND I STILL HAVE A CONCERN.
11:02:15 I WILL SAY THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THROUGH THE BOARD
11:02:20 AGREED WITH THE POSITIONING OF THE STORE.
11:02:24 I HAVE A CONCERN THAT THE STORE FACING INTO CLEVELAND BEGINS

11:02:29 TO SET PRECEDENCE FOR THE FUTURE, WHICH EVERYTHING ELSE IS
11:02:39 ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
11:02:42 SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE, I POSSIBLY
11:02:49 WOULDN'T BE AROUND BUT IT COULD HAPPEN WHEN THERE MIGHT BE A
11:02:51 PROPOSAL THEN TO CHANGE COMMERCIAL INTO FACING CLEVELAND ALL
11:02:56 THE WAY, AND THAT WOULD BE A DISASTER.
11:03:00 MY OTHER CONCERN WAS HAVING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY
11:03:06 THAT HAD BEEN SUGGESTED, BUT I COULD NOT FIND ANY UPDATE ON
11:03:12 IT.
11:03:12 SO THANK YOU.
11:03:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:03:21 ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 70?
11:03:24 MR. WEAVER, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND?
11:03:27 >> YES, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON BOTH OF THE
11:03:29 ISSUES AND WE HAVE PROVIDED THE HEDGES AS REQUESTED AND ARE
11:03:32 ALSO GOING TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS AT APPROPRIATE TIMES, IN
11:03:35 SOME CASES MAINTAINING SAFETY, HOWEVER, LIGHTS REMAIN ON,
11:03:39 BUT SOME LIGHTS WILL BE TURNED OFF AFTER THE WORK CREW IS
11:03:42 AWAY AND FOR SAFETY OF THE ATM TO MAKE SURE THE LIGHTS FOR
11:03:47 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AFTER THE CREW LEAVES, SAFETY OF THE LOT
11:03:52 AND THE ATM.
11:03:53 THANK YOU.
11:03:53 >> DAVID SMITH.
11:04:01 WE HAVE REFLECTED ON THE SITE PLAN THE 4-FOOT HEIGHT FOR THE
11:04:05 HEDGES.

11:04:05 THAT'S HIGH ENOUGH TO BLOCK THE LIGHTING FROM THE PARKING
11:04:08 LOTS.
11:04:08 SO IT IS REFLECTED ON THE SITE PLAN AS A CONDITION.
11:04:12 THANK YOU.
11:04:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:14 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:04:17 ALL RIGHT.
11:04:19 NEED A MOTION.
11:04:19 >> SO MOVED.
11:04:25 MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:04:27 SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:04:28 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:04:30 OPPOSED?
11:04:31 ALL RIGHT.
11:04:32 MR. COHEN.
11:04:33 >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:37 AND I AM GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS AT THE
11:04:39 END OF THE MEETING.
11:04:41 PRESENTING AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:04:43 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:04:46 VICINITY OF 4900 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF
11:04:50 TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
11:04:54 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:04:56 RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:05:00 RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:05:02 >> SECOND.
11:05:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:05:05 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:05:07 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:05:12 ROLL CALL.
11:05:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:05:14 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:05:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:05:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:05:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:05:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:05:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:05:22 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:05:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:05:27 ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:05:35 >>GINA GRIMES: HILL, WARD, HENDERSON.
11:05:36 I'M HERE THIS MORNING REPRESENTING MOBLEY HOMES ON THIS
11:05:41 REZONING.
11:05:42 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
11:05:47 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TON SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 71?
11:05:51 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 71?
11:05:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:06:03 >> SECOND.
11:06:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MRS. CAPIN.

11:06:06 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:06:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:06:08 OPPOSED?
11:06:09 MRS. CAPIN.
11:06:11 71.
11:06:11 >> REZ 18-32.
11:06:16 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:06:19 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:06:21 3124 WEST PAUL AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
11:06:25 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:06:27 CLASSIFICATION RS-60 TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50
11:06:32 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:06:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:06:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.
11:06:38 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:06:40 PLEASE ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:06:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:06:44 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:06:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:06:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:06:48 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:06:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:06:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:06:51 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:06:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: I THINK THE PEOPLE IN THE IT ROOM, WOULD

11:07:01 YOU CHECK TO SEE IF YOU CAN REMOVE THIS FROM OUR MONITORS?
11:07:11 ITEM NUMBER 72.
11:07:12 >> ALYSSA MARTINEZ REPRESENTING MARTINEZ HOMES.
11:07:21 I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 72.
11:07:23 THANK YOU.
11:07:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:07:26 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 72?
11:07:30 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:07:31 >> SECOND.
11:07:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:07:32 SECOND BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:07:34 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:07:36 OPPOSED?
11:07:37 ALL RIGHT.
11:07:40 MR. MIRANDA.
11:07:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 72.
11:07:44 REZ 18-33.
11:07:47 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:07:49 ADOPTION.
11:07:50 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:07:52 2902 NORTH PERRY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE
11:07:56 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:07:58 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
11:08:01 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:08:03 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

11:08:05 DATE.
11:08:06 >> SECOND.
11:08:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:08:10 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:08:13 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:08:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:08:16 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:08:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:08:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:08:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:08:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:08:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:08:25 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:08:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 73.
11:08:27 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 73?
11:08:40 >>STEVE MICHELINI: REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:08:44 WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:08:47 WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
11:08:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:08:54 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:08:57 OH, COMMENT THE FROM ANYONE ON ITEM NUMBER 73?
11:09:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:09:03 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:09:05 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
11:09:07 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:09:08 ANY OPPOSED?
11:09:09 OKAY.
11:09:10 NEXT COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM 73, SIR?
11:09:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
11:09:16 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE THAN REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:09:19 GENERAL VICINITY OF 28036 WEST BALLAST POINT BOULEVARD IN
11:09:22 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
11:09:24 IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
11:09:27 DEVELOPMENT, DWELLING, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, TO RS-60,
11:09:30 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:09:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND OF THE.
11:09:35 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
11:09:37 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:09:38 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:09:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:09:41 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:09:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:09:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:09:47 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:09:51 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 74.
11:09:55 IS ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 74?
11:09:57 >> MICHAEL HORNER, 14502 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY
11:10:02 REPRESENTING APPLICANT.

11:10:03 BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:10:05 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 74 FROM
11:10:10 COUNCIL?
11:10:10 ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 74?
11:10:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:10:15 >> SECOND.
11:10:15 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:10:19 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
11:10:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:10:21 ANY OPPOSED?
11:10:22 COUNCILMAN COHEN, IF YOU COULD TAKE ITEM 74.
11:10:25 >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:10:28 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:10:29 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 APPROVING A
11:10:33 DAYCARE IN AN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING
11:10:36 DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4302 WEST EUCLID AVENUE
11:10:41 AND 3805 SOUTH HUBERT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
11:10:45 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF
11:10:48 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND VERY MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
11:10:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:10:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:10:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:10:57 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:10:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:11:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:11:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:11:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:11:03 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:11:08 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 75.
11:11:11 IS ANYONE HERE FOR 75?
11:11:13 >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE FOR
11:11:17 ITEM 75 AND 76 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:19 >> ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 75?
11:11:22 >> ANNE POLLACK REPRESENTING PETITIONER ON THIS ITEM AND
11:11:29 RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT.
11:11:30 THANK YOU.
11:11:30 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:11:34 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 75?
11:11:37 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:11:39 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
11:11:42 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
11:11:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:45 ANY OPPOSED?
11:11:47 OKAY.
11:11:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, IF YOU COULD TAKE ITEM 75.
11:11:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:11:55 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
11:11:57 DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:12:01 KNOWN AS TRASK STREET LYING NORTH OF McCOY STREET WEST OF

11:12:06 SOUTH WALL STREET, EAST OF CSX RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY AND
11:12:11 SOUTH OF UNNAMED RIGHT-OF-WAY IN MAP OF PORT OF TAMPA CITY,
11:12:14 A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:12:17 FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
11:12:20 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,
11:12:23 CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY LET FORTH
11:12:26 HEREIN, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:28 >> SECOND.
11:12:28 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:12:32 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
11:12:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:12:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:12:37 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:12:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:12:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:12:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:12:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:12:43 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:12:46 >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 76.
11:12:52 IS ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 76?
11:13:00 >> EDWARD JUNTA, THE CIRCLE K STORES, HERE TO ANSWER ANY
11:13:05 QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:13:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:13:10 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 76?
11:13:13 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:13:15 >> SECOND.
11:13:15 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:18 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:13:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:21 ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:23 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM 76?
11:13:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: VAC 18-016.
11:13:33 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:13:35 AN ORDINANCE BE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING
11:13:39 A PORTION --
11:13:41 >> FOR THE RECORD THAT'S A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR.
11:13:44 SORRY.
11:13:45 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:13:47 INSTEAD OF FIRST.
11:13:48 >> YES, SECOND READING.
11:13:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, IT IS.
11:13:57 LET'S START FROM THE BEGINNING.
11:13:59 VAC 18-016.
11:14:01 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING CONSIDERATION.
11:14:04 AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A
11:14:07 PORTION OF ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED WITHIN WEST OF
11:14:11 HOWARD AVENUE, EAST OF WESTLAND AVENUE AND SOUTH OF WEST
11:14:14 KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN OSCAWANA SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN
11:14:18 THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME
11:14:21 BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO

11:14:25 CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
11:14:29 RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING
11:14:32 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:14:32 >> SECOND.
11:14:33 >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
11:14:37 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:39 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:14:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:14:42 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:14:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:14:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:14:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:14:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:14:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:14:49 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:14:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:14:54 WE HAVE ITEM 77?
11:14:59 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:14:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE PROPERTY THAT IS NEXT DOOR TO 4608
11:15:04 JAMAICA STREET, MY UNCLE IS I BELIEVE ONE OF THE OWNERS OF
11:15:07 THE PROPERTY.
11:15:08 SO I WISH TO ABSTAIN.
11:15:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:15:17 TO AVOID ANY BE APPEARANCE OF CONFLICT.
11:15:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU WILL FIND THE APPROPRIATE

11:15:23 PAPERWORK?
11:15:25 >> YES.
11:15:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: NUMBER 77.
11:15:26 STAFF.
11:15:27 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT HERE ON ITEM 77.
11:15:30 ITEM 77 IS A REVIEW HEARING FROM A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE
11:15:36 1 WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
11:15:39 HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA,
11:15:42 IT COULD NOT BE APPROVED BY STAFF BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION
11:15:45 CANNOT GRANT WAIVERS, UNLESS CITY COUNCIL CAN.
11:15:48 THE STANDARD FOR A WAIVER IS NOT A HARDSHIP, IT'S NOT A
11:15:51 VARIANCE STANDARD.
11:15:53 IT'S A WAIVER STANDARD.
11:15:54 AND IN THE CODE IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN GRANT THESE WAIVERS IF
11:15:56 YOU FIND THAT THE UNDERLYING REQUEST WITH THE WAIVERS STILL
11:16:01 MEETS THE GENERAL STANDARDS.
11:16:02 AND THOSE ARE CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
11:16:05 THANK YOU.
11:16:05 >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:16:10 THIS IS SU-1-18-10.
11:16:13 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4608 NORTH JAMAICA STREET.
11:16:18 THE REQUEST IS TO SMALL GROUP CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY.
11:16:23 IT IS A SPECIAL USE 1 IN THE RS-60 DISTRICT.
11:16:27 THEY ARE NEEDING A WAIVER OF DISTANCE SEPARATION.
11:16:35 [RUSTLING PAPERS]

11:16:39 IT'S AN EXISTING FACILITY.
11:16:40 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:16:42 THERE IS A FACILITY AT 4501 NORTH JAMAICA STREET.
11:16:47 IT'S APPROXIMATELY 897 FEET AWAY, AS WELL AS 4603 NORTH
11:16:55 SAINT VINCENT WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 422 FEET.
11:17:01 THERE IS AN ERROR IN MY STAFF REPORT.
11:17:04 I INDICATED THEY WERE ASKING FOR EIGHT BEDS.
11:17:08 THEIR APPLICATION IS ACTUALLY SAYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO
11:17:11 BE A 5-BED FACILITY.
11:17:13 THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, NEIGHBORING
11:17:18 PROPERTY.
11:17:19 IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
11:17:22 THEY ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A RETENTION POND.
11:17:26 BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE ZONING IS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY
11:17:29 RESIDENTIAL.
11:17:30 I'M HERE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:17:34 QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:17:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MRS. MOREDA, IN TERMS OF THE DISTANCE
11:17:40 SEPARATION, THAT'S THE ONLY THING, THE NUMBER OF BEDS
11:17:44 DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR --
11:17:47 >>GLORIA MOREDA: NO.
11:17:47 THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW EIGHT BEDS.
11:17:49 WHAT THEY ARE NOT MEETING IS THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
11:17:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.

11:17:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: APPLICANT?
11:17:53 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:17:58 MY NAME IS LISETTE ACOSTA HERE FOR ITEM 77.
11:18:03 I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
11:18:04 AND AN OWNER OF THE FACILITY.
11:18:06 I OPERATE UNDER APD, LICENSED SINCE 2015.
11:18:12 I HAVE BEEN SERVING THREE CLIENTS SO FAR, NEVER HAD ANY
11:18:14 ISSUES WITH THE COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORS OR THE LAW.
11:18:16 I WANT TO CONTINUE TO GIVE SERVICES AND JUST ASKING FOR TWO
11:18:19 MORE BEDS SO I CAN PROVIDE SERVICES FOR FIVE CLIENTS INSTEAD
11:18:23 OF THREE.
11:18:24 I SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY.
11:18:29 THANK YOU.
11:18:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:18:30 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 77?
11:18:34 YES, SIR.
11:18:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:18:41 MY NAME IS ALBERT DECOBO, 4610 JAMAICA STREET.
11:18:49 6, 7, 8 YEARS AGO THIS HOUSE WAS SOLD AND CONVERTED INTO A
11:18:53 DUPLEX.
11:18:54 I FILED A COMPLAINT.
11:18:55 NOTHING EVER GOT DONE.
11:18:57 STILL ACTING AS A DUPLEX.
11:19:01 THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF THERE FOR I DON'T
11:19:03 KNOW HOW LONG.

11:19:05 EVERY EVENING THEY BRING IN THEIR TRUCKS.
11:19:08 EVERY MORNING THEY TAKE THEIR TRUCKS OUT.
11:19:09 NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN ALF.
11:19:11 THEY HAVE BEEN ALREADY BEEN OPERATING WITH VEHICLES ALL OVER
11:19:13 THE PLACE.
11:19:15 THESE ARE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT SIT THERE EVENING AND
11:19:19 EVERY MORNING.
11:19:28 THEY ARE OPERATING AS AN ALF.
11:19:40 THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW.
11:19:44 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS AN APARTMENT AND THIS IS THE OTHER PART
11:19:47 OF THE HOUSE.
11:19:59 BACKYARD.
11:20:05 NOT A THING HAS BEEN DONE BY HILLSBOROUGH OR CITY OF TAMPA.
11:20:10 I HAVE TALKED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:20:11 I HAVE TALKED TO -- NOTHING TO DATE HAS BEEN DONE.
11:20:17 NOW, AT 4612, MY NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH PURCHASED A HOUSE,
11:20:29 DEMOLISHED THE INSIDE, GUTTED IT WITHOUT PERMITS.
11:20:31 I CALLED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
11:20:33 THEY WENT OUT AND GOT A PERMIT.
11:20:37 THAT WAS JUSTIFY TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING THEY DID IN THERE.
11:20:40 IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS THEY CONVERTED THE APARTMENT -- THE
11:20:44 CARPORT.
11:20:49 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
11:20:51 THIS IS THE HOUSE WITH THE CARPORT.
11:21:02 THIS IS THE EFFICIENCY APARTMENT THAT I HAD ONE OF MY

11:21:07 WORKERS GO BY AND ASK.
11:21:10 $900 FOR A LITTLE EFFICIENCY.
11:21:19 THIS IS JUST GOING ON EVERYWHERE.
11:21:22 YOU HAVE 4501 THAT NOT ONLY HAS AN ALF BUT BUILT THREE
11:21:26 COMPLETE EFFICIENCY APARTMENTS IN THE BACK.
11:21:28 AND WHEN I SAY EFFICIENCY, I AM TALKING BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS,
11:21:32 KITCHEN WITHOUT A PERMIT.
11:21:34 AND THE CITY HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
11:21:40 A PICTURE OF WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE ON THE WEEKENDS BUT
11:21:42 THEY GOT THEIR WHOLE YARD PARKED WITH VEHICLES UP AND DOWN
11:21:45 THE STREET.
11:21:46 [BELL SOUNDS]
11:21:47 THERE'S A PLACE --
11:21:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOUR TIME IS UP SO WE THANK YOU.
11:21:52 >> WE OPPOSE THIS AND WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS USE FOR THIS
11:21:57 HOUSE.
11:21:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:22:00 77?
11:22:01 >> MY NAME IS ALBERTO ACOSTA.
11:22:07 I'M HER HUSBAND.
11:22:08 AND THE VEHICLES PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE BELONG TO
11:22:12 ME.
11:22:13 I RUN AN AIR CONDITIONING COMPANY.
11:22:15 AND WHERE I LIVE I AM NOT ALLOWED TO PARK THE CARS SO
11:22:20 SOMETIMES WE LEAVE THEM THERE FOR THE WEEKEND.

11:22:22 SOMETIMES NOT.
11:22:24 THERE'S ONLY TWO VEHICLES AT THE HOUSE, NOT THREE.
11:22:27 AND THERE'S NO APARTMENT.
11:22:28 THERE'S NO DUPLEX.
11:22:30 WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:22:32 WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR COMES TO THE HOME FOUR TIMES IN FOUR
11:22:35 DIFFERENT YEARS.
11:22:35 THE HOUSE IS CLEAN.
11:22:36 THEY HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE HOME.
11:22:38 AND WE RECENTLY HILLSBOROUGH ONE IN 2016 AND THEY CAME TO
11:22:42 THE HOUSE AND THE MAIN PART OF THE HOUSE, THERE'S NOTHING
11:22:47 WRONG WITH THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.
11:22:52 THE NEIGHBORS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, AND THE CARE
11:22:58 GIVING BUSINESS THAT WE DO, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AN
11:23:01 ALF.
11:23:01 IT'S A COMMUNITY RUN AND WE GET A MONTHLY INSPECTION HAS
11:23:06 NOTHING TO DO WITH AN ALF.
11:23:08 THANK YOU.
11:23:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME.
11:23:10 YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT -- AT THE MOMENT WHAT DOES
11:23:14 THAT MEAN?
11:23:16 HAVE YOU HAD IT BEFORE?
11:23:17 >> NO.
11:23:17 >> NEVER HAD AN APARTMENT?
11:23:19 >> NO, NOT ON THAT PROPERTY.

11:23:21 >> CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE, A THEY GO TO THE HOUSE AND
11:23:26 INSPECT FOR ANY ELECTRICAL OR ANY TYPE OF KITCHEN EQUIPMENT?
11:23:32 >> NO.
11:23:34 THEY CAN GO IN THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
11:23:36 AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT'S CALLING BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS AN
11:23:39 APARTMENT IN THERE BUT THEY HAVE COME INTO THE HOUSE.
11:23:41 THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE.
11:23:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHY THERE'S
11:23:47 DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROOF ON THE HOUSE.
11:23:48 >> BUT THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME --
11:23:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY ARE TIN ROOFS?
11:23:55 >> IT'S A PATIO ROOF, ONE OF THOSE INSULATED WHITE ROOFS.
11:23:59 AND THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND I HAVE
11:24:02 BEEN LIVING ON THE PROPERTY FOR ELEVEN YEARS AND IT'S ALWAYS
11:24:05 BEEN THAT WAY.
11:24:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:24:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:24:12 77?
11:24:17 ALL RIGHT.
11:24:20 DO YOU WANT TO --
11:24:24 >> I'LL MAKE A COMMENT.
11:24:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT
11:24:27 THEY SAID?
11:24:28 >> YES, I DO.
11:24:29 I HAVE BEEN LICENSED SINCE 2015.

11:24:31 I AM LICENSED BY MEDICAID AS WELL.
11:24:34 I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.
11:24:35 SO THAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO COME TO THE HOUSE AND
11:24:37 INSPECT THE WHOLE FACILITY.
11:24:39 I CANNOT HAVE ANY ILLEGAL RENTALS.
11:24:42 THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THAT.
11:24:43 THE INSPECTOR OF THE CITY HAS COME TO THE HOME INSPECTED THE
11:24:47 HOME, WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ROOM.
11:24:49 THERE IS NO ILLEGAL RENTAL.
11:24:51 I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF THAT BECAUSE BE WHEN A NEW CLIENT
11:24:54 RESIDES AT THE HOME, THEY BRING FURNITURE.
11:24:56 SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE HAD A CLIENT MOVE IN, THEY
11:24:59 AUTOMATICALLY THINK IT'S AN ILLEGAL RENTAL.
11:25:04 IT'S NOT.
11:25:04 I AM LICENSED FOR THREE CLIENTS.
11:25:06 THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BRING THEIR OWN FURNITURE.
11:25:08 I CAN'T DENY THAT.
11:25:09 SO YOU ARE GOING TO SEE TRUCKS MOVING IN FURNITURE IN AND
11:25:12 OUT.
11:25:13 I HAVE HAD THAT THREE TIMES WITH MY CLIENTS.
11:25:16 SO EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY HAVE CALLED THE CITY, SO THEY HAVE
11:25:20 COME IN.
11:25:21 THE LAST ONE THEY ACTUALLY CLOSED THE WHOLE CASE BECAUSE I
11:25:24 HAD TWO INSPECTORS COME IN AND DO A WHOLE WALK-THROUGH.
11:25:28 BECAUSE I WAS JUST TIRED OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAD.

11:25:30 WE HAD THEM COME IN.
11:25:31 WE SCHEDULED THE DATES.
11:25:33 THEY CAME IN AND WALKED THROUGH.
11:25:35 AND THAT WAS LAST YEAR.
11:25:36 AND I CAN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THAT HOUSE THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED
11:25:39 TO BE THERE.
11:25:40 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE SCREENED.
11:25:42 BACKGROUND SCREENED.
11:25:43 THE CAREGIVERS THERE, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I PROVIDE SERVICES
11:25:50 BUT I NEED ANOTHER BODY ON THE FLOOR SO I ALLOW THEM, GIVE
11:25:55 THEM PERMISSION.
11:25:56 THEY ARE NOT NURSES.
11:25:56 THEY ARE JUST LICENSED CAREGIVERS.
11:25:59 THEY HAVE CERTIFICATES FROM THE AGENCY THAT I AM LICENSED
11:26:01 WITH.
11:26:04 THEY HAVE LEVEL THE 2 BACKGROUND SCREENINGS.
11:26:06 WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
11:26:09 EVERY MONTH I HAVE SURPRISE INSPECTIONS AND I HAVE MEDICAID
11:26:13 COME EVERY YEAR.
11:26:13 AND I HAVE BEEN OPERATING SINCE 2015 AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN
11:26:17 OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
11:26:18 SO I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH ANYTHING.
11:26:21 SO JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU KNOW.
11:26:23 SORRY.
11:26:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION?

11:26:27 >> SURE.
11:26:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: EVERYTHING YOU SAID HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
11:26:30 US, OKAY?
11:26:32 THAT'S STATE.
11:26:33 STATE LICENSING.
11:26:35 YOU ARE HERE NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE BE IN NONCOMPLIANCE WITH
11:26:38 OUR ORDINANCE.
11:26:39 I THINK YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
11:26:40 >> WELL, I WAS COVERED BY THE FLORIDA STATUTE.
11:26:42 I'M ALLOYED TO HAVE THREE.
11:26:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MY QUESTION IS, THE REASON YOU ARE HERE IS
11:26:48 BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH --
11:26:49 >> YES, OF COURSE, YES.
11:26:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE ARE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE
11:26:54 AGAIN.
11:26:54 YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
11:26:55 WHEN YOU STARTED YOUR BUSINESS IN 2015 DID YOU LOOK AND SEE
11:26:58 WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE COMPLIANT WITH CITY LAW?
11:27:00 I ASSUME NOT.
11:27:01 >> YES, I DID.
11:27:02 THEY SAID I WAS OKAY.
11:27:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHO IS THEY?
11:27:05 >> THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:27:06 >> WHO?
11:27:08 >> ERIC COTTON, THE MANAGER.

11:27:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HE SAID YOU WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CITY
11:27:12 ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME?
11:27:13 >> FLORIDA STATUTE 614 HAVE.
11:27:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA STATUTE.
11:27:18 I'M SAYING OUR ORDINANCES.
11:27:19 >> YES, ERIC COTTON OF THE CITY GAVE ME PERMISSION.
11:27:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF MRS. MOREDA?
11:27:26 THERE YOU ARE.
11:27:28 COULD YOU MOVE TO THE SIDE FOR A SECOND?
11:27:30 SHE'S MADE A STATEMENT THAT ERIC COTTON MADE A DESIGNATION
11:27:34 THAT SHE WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCES.
11:27:36 YOU HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH.
11:27:37 IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT?
11:27:39 >>GLORIA MOREDA: I HAVE NOT TALKED TO MR. COTTON
11:27:41 PARTICULARLY ABOUT THIS CASE.
11:27:44 THIS DID NOT MEET THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT IN 2015 FOR AN
11:27:49 ASSISTIVE LIVING FACILITY.
11:27:51 SO I WOULD SAY NO, IT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
11:27:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:27:54 I APPRECIATE IT.
11:27:56 MRS. ACOSTA, COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCE NOT THE STATE.
11:28:01 YOU MAY MEET EVERY REQUIREMENT OF THE STATE BUT THIS IS A
11:28:04 REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY ORDINANCE.
11:28:05 SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET AT, OKAY?
11:28:07 >> I WAS JUST GOING BY WHAT THE MANAGER SAID.

11:28:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I UNDERSTAND.
11:28:12 AND AGAIN YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
11:28:14 THAT'S WHY YOU ARE HERE TODAY.
11:28:14 >> OKAY.
11:28:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. MOREDA, IF I MAY GO BACK TO 2015.
11:28:19 AS YOU KNOW, YOU COME UP ALL THE TIME REGARDING THIS, AND
11:28:23 ANYTHING THAT WITHIN 1200 FEET.
11:28:28 AT THE TIME OF 2015, DID THIS PROPERTY APPLY FOR PERMITS?
11:28:38 >>GLORIA MOREDA: I DON'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE THAT A SPECIAL
11:28:40 USE APPLICATION --
11:28:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE WAS NO SPECIAL USE APPLICATION SO
11:28:44 THEY DID IT ON THEIR OWN, I ASSUME?
11:28:46 I'M MAKING ASSUMPTIONS NOW.
11:28:47 >>GLORIA MOREDA: I MEAN, THERE IS A PROCESS WHERE THE SMALL
11:28:50 ALS COME IN WITH A LETTER FOR OUR SIGN-OFF IF THERE'S NOT A
11:28:55 FACILITY WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
11:28:58 IF THERE IS NOT A FACILITY WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, THEN WE
11:29:01 WOULD SIGN OFF BECAUSE THE STATE STATUTE ALLOWS FOR THAT
11:29:07 FACILITY TO GO THERE.
11:29:08 THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE WERE TWO OTHER FACILITIES WITHIN A
11:29:12 THOUSAND FEET OF THIS LOCATION.
11:29:15 THAT'S WHY IT DID NOT MEET, IN MY OPINION, THE REQUIREMENTS
11:29:19 FOR THE STATE STATUTE TO GO IN WITHOUT IT BEING A SPECIAL
11:29:23 USE.
11:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES YOUR OFFICE KEEP COPIES THAT YOU

11:29:27 GIVE OUT?
11:29:28 >>GLORIA MOREDA: WE HAVE IN THE PAST ENTERED INFORMATION IN
11:29:32 OUR COMPUTER.
11:29:35 BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.
11:29:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:29:44 YOU HAVE ONE LAST TIME.
11:29:46 >> WHEN I WENT TO ERIC COTTON, WE RESEARCHED EVERYTHING IN
11:29:49 THE MEETING, AND HE SAID IF YOU ONLY -- YOU ONLY OPEN TO
11:29:55 THREE CLIENTS IT WOULD NOT CONSIDER YOU A GROUP HOME.
11:29:59 YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A FOSTER HOME AND THAT'S WHAT MY
11:30:01 LICENSE SAYS.
11:30:02 IT SAYS ARE APPROVED FOR FOSTER FACILITY.
11:30:07 MY LICENSE FROM 2015 TO THE PRESENT.
11:30:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE IS THE PROBLEM.
11:30:11 YOU ARE REFERENCING ONE PERSON WHO IS NOT HERE TO VOUCH FOR
11:30:15 THAT.
11:30:15 >> I KNOW.
11:30:16 BUT THAT'S THE PERSON THAT I WENT TO.
11:30:18 AND IT EVEN STATES THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ZONING
11:30:21 ADMINISTRATION FOR THREE CLIENTS.
11:30:24 SO SOMEONE -- WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE DAY WITH THAT.
11:30:30 BEFORE I EVEN OPENED.
11:30:31 >>HARRY COHEN: NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A FOSTER HOME
11:30:34 INSTEAD OF A --

11:30:36 >> WELL, I AM HERE TODAY TO TURN IT INTO A GROUP HOME.
11:30:38 I STARTED AS A FOSTER HOME.
11:30:40 BUT I WANT TO MOVE ON AND EXPAND IT TO A SMALL GROUP HOME.
11:30:45 I STARTED AS A FOSTER HOME.
11:30:47 AND THAT'S WHAT I AM LICENSED UNDER APD.
11:30:49 I AM APPLYING TO EXPAND MY LICENSE AND TO GET THE PROPERTY
11:30:53 APPROVED.
11:30:54 THAT'S WHY I AM HERE TODAY.
11:30:55 GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
11:30:56 >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:31:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT, YOUR STATEMENTS,
11:31:06 IN WRITING?
11:31:08 FROM THE PERSON YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT YOU WERE IN
11:31:12 COMPLIANCE?
11:31:13 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:31:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU DIDN'T BRING THEM WITH YOU?
11:31:22 MS. MOREDA?
11:31:24 >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:31:25 THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY
11:31:28 AND A FOSTER HOME.
11:31:30 SO, YOU KNOW --
11:31:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SAYING YES TO A FOSTER HOME --
11:31:35 >>GLORIA MOREDA: IS DIFFERENT THAN AN ASSISTIVE LIVING
11:31:38 FACILITY.
11:31:38 >>HARRY COHEN: IT CHANGES THE NATURE OF WHAT IS BEING ASKED

11:31:42 FOR HERE.
11:31:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:31:49 COUNCIL, IF IN A ONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK --
11:31:55 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:31:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. COHEN.
11:31:59 SECOND BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:32:00 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:32:02 OPPOSED?
11:32:02 ALL RIGHT.
11:32:03 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:32:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: MOVE TO UPHOLD.
11:32:10 >> SECOND.
11:32:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE -- THE REVIEW HEARING, RIGHT?
11:32:22 MOVE TO UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION.
11:32:28 THANK YOU.
11:32:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:32:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A REVIEW HEARING AND YOU ARE
11:32:39 UPHOLDING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
11:32:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
11:32:44 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA?
11:32:44 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:32:51 >> IS THAT WHAT YOU DID?
11:32:51 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE -- ALL IN FAVOR
11:32:56 OF THE MOTION SAY AYE?
11:32:57 OPPOSED?

11:32:58 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE] MOTION CARRIED WITH
11:33:09 MANISCALCO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:33:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE TWO PULLED
11:33:10 ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED. NUMBER 36 IS THE FIRST ONE.
11:33:17 ITEM NUMBER 36.
11:33:18 >>GREG SPEARMAN: PURCHASING DIRECTOR. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON
11:33:27 ITEM NUMBER 36.
11:33:29 THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR JOB ORDER
11:33:38 CONTRACTING SERVICES.
11:33:39 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW IN
11:33:43 TERMS OF WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE, HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, AND
11:33:46 SOME OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
11:33:49 SO YOU MAY BE WONDERING FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR
11:33:52 WITH JOB ORDER CONTRACTING, WHAT IS JOCCS? JOBS ORDER
11:33:53 CONTRACTING IS A PERFORMANCE BASED FIRM FIXED PRICE
11:33:58 COMPETITIVE BID AND DEFINITE QUANTITY PROCUREMENT PROCESS
11:34:03 FOR SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
11:34:06 SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS HOW DOES IT WORK?
11:34:08 THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING CONSISTS OF ON CALL CONTRACTORS
11:34:15 READY TO PERFORM TASKS BASED ON COMPETITIVE BID PRE-SET
11:34:19 PRICES.
11:34:19 SO IT'S DESIGNED TO REDUCE TIME, IT'S DESIGNED TO INCREASE
11:34:23 QUALITY, AND ALSO KEEP COSTS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
11:34:27 SO WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF JOCCS? IT SIMPLIFIES THE
11:34:33 PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

11:34:33 IT PROVIDES FOR MUCH FASTER CONTRACT RESPONSE TIME, AND IT
11:34:36 IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF WORK, AND INCREASED SUBCONTRACTOR
11:34:40 PARTICIPATION. IT VIRTUALLY ELIMINATES DEFAULT, TERMINATION
11:34:43 AND CLAIMS, AND IT'S A FULLY TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
11:34:46 IT ALSO HELPS TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF EMERGENCY WORK
11:34:49 ORDERS THAT THE CITY HAS TO APPROVE FOR SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZE
11:34:52 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.
11:34:54 SO HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK?
11:34:57 THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS IS THE PROJECT IS IDENTIFIED IN
11:35:00 TERMS OF ITS ELIGIBILITY FOR JOCCS CONTRACTING, THEN THERE
11:35:05 IS A JOINT SCOPE MEETING BETWEEN THE JOCCS CONTRACTOR AND
11:35:08 THE CITY.
11:35:09 THE JOCCS CONTRACTOR THEN PREPARES WHAT IS KNOWN AS A PRICE
11:35:13 PROPOSAL WHICH IS BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION CATALOG WHICH IS
11:35:13 PART OF THE JOCCS CONTRACT.
11:35:16 THE CITY THEN REVIEWS AND APPROVES THE PRICE PROPOSAL, LISTS
11:35:21 THE SUBCONTRACTORS AND ALSO SUBMITTALS.
11:35:25 SO ONCE THE CONTRACT IS APPROVED, OR THE WORK ORDER IS
11:35:27 APPROVED, THE CITY ISSUES A PURCHASE ORDER AND AUTHORIZATION
11:35:31 RECEIVED.
11:35:31 THE CONTRACT THEN STARTS AND THE CONTRACTOR BEGINS THE WORK.
11:35:35 NOW, YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHAT DOES IT COST THE CITY IN
11:35:39 TERMS OF HAVING A CONSULTANT FOR JOCCS OR JOB ORDER
11:35:44 CONTRACTING SERVICES?
11:35:46 THERE ARE FOUR OF THESE CONSULTING SERVICES.

11:35:49 NUMBER ONE.
11:35:49 IT INCLUDES A LICENSE OF 5% OF THE FIRST $8 MILLION OF
11:35:54 PROJECTS THROUGH THE JOCCS SYSTEM.
11:35:59 THE LICENSE FEE THEN DROPS TO 1.9%.
11:36:06 THE JOCCS PROGRAM WHICH INCLUDES CONTRACT BID DOCUMENT
11:36:11 DEVELOPMENT, EXECUTION PROCEDURES, PROCUREMENT DATA SETS,
11:36:15 TRAINING.
11:36:17 IT INCLUDES THE LICENSE FEE OF 5% OF THE FIRST $8 MILLION OF
11:36:21 PROJECTS SECURED THROUGH THE JOCCS SYSTEM PLUS TIER 1
11:36:25 SERVICES PLUS SCOPE DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW BY THE GORDIAN
11:36:35 GROUP, SO WE CAN GET OUR EXPERTISE UP FOR THE JOCCS SYSTEM.
11:36:38 TIER 3 INCLUDES THE LICENSEE OF 5% OF THE FIRST $8 MILLION
11:36:42 OF THE PROJECT PROCURED THROUGH THE JOCCS SYSTEM PLUS THE
11:36:45 PROJECT MANAGEMENT FEE OF 5.9% FOR WORK ORDERS THAT ARE
11:36:50 PROCESSED THROUGH JOCCS.
11:36:51 SO BASICALLY WHAT THE TIER 3 PROPOSAL OR TIER 3 WORK, THIS
11:36:57 INCLUDES THE GORDIAN GROUP...
11:37:04 ONE OF THE AREAS WE DON'T THINK WILL BE USED IN THE JOCCS
11:37:07 CONTRACT, TIER 1 AND 2.
11:37:08 SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE THERE EXISTING FLORIDA AGENCIES
11:37:12 THAT CURRENTLY USE THE JOCCS CONTRACT?
11:37:14 AND THERE ARE SEVERAL FLORIDA AGENCIES THAT CURRENTLY USE
11:37:23 JOB ORDER CONTRACTING INCLUDING 3 TAMPA BAY ENTITIES IN THE
11:37:25 TAMPA AREA.
11:37:25 THE TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS BEEN USING JOCCS FOR TWO

11:37:30 YEARS AND THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE CITY'S PROGRAM BECAUSE THE
11:37:32 PRICE STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE AND THEY MAY WANT
11:37:36 TO ASSIST OUR PROGRAM IF IT IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
11:37:38 THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG HAS BEEN USING JOCCS FOR TEN
11:37:40 MONTHS.
11:37:41 SINCE AUGUST 16, 2017.
11:37:43 AND PINELLAS COUNTY, THE THIRD BAY AREA AGENCY USING JOB
11:37:48 ORDER CONTRACTING FOR 12 YEARS SINCE 2006.
11:37:51 SO THERE ARE THREE OTHER FLORIDA AGENCIES THAT ALSO USE THIS
11:37:55 CONTRACT.
11:37:55 MIAMI-DADE USED JOCCS FOR 27 YEARS.
11:38:00 BROWARD COUNTY USED JOCCS FOR 12 AND A HALF YEARS AND THE
11:38:05 CITY OF MIAMI USED JOB ORDER CONTRACTING FOR 14 YEARS.
11:38:09 SO YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHICH CITY DEPARTMENT WOULD BENEFIT
11:38:12 USING JOB ORDER CONTRACTING.
11:38:14 THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CONVENTION CENTER, LOGISTICS AND
11:38:17 ASSETS MANAGEMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, PARKS AND RECREATION,
11:38:22 SOLID WASTE SERVICES, ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT,
11:38:25 TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES, WATER, WASTEWATER,
11:38:28 TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND TRAFFIC
11:38:31 OPERATIONS.
11:38:33 SO WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES IN TERMS OF TYPES OF
11:38:36 WORK THROUGH THE JOBS ORDER PROGRAM?
11:38:41 CONCRETE PAVERS, OFFICE RENOVATION, PAY STATION INSTALLATION
11:38:47 FOR THE PARKING GARAGES, SIDEWALK AND REPAIRS, ADA BUILDING

11:38:53 COMPLIANCE RENOVATION AND REPAIRS, INSTALLATION OF WAY
11:38:58 FINDING SIGNS, SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION REPAIRS, REMOVAL
11:39:00 INSTALLATION, REPLACEMENT AND REPAIR.
11:39:05 SO WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF JOCCS IN TERMS OF MINORITY
11:39:09 BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ON CITY PROPERTY?
11:39:11 WE PREVIOUSLY HAD A JOCCS PROGRAM YEARS AGO AND I WANT TO
11:39:16 SHARE WITH YOU, AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE
11:39:22 JOCCS PROGRAM, WE HAD 10%.
11:39:24 JOB ORDER CONTRACTING RECEIVED 9% AFRICAN AMERICAN
11:39:30 PARTICIPATION.
11:39:30 THE HISPANIC GOAL AT THAT TIME WAS 9%, JOCCS RECEIVED 9%
11:39:33 HISPANIC PARTICIPATION.
11:39:44 JOCCS ACHIEVED 14% WOMEN OWNED PARTICIPATION.
11:39:46 SO THE TOTAL MINORITY AND WOMEN'S GROUP PARTICIPATION DURING
11:39:50 THAT TIME WAS 25%, ACTUALLY A RECEIVED 32% PARTICIPATION
11:39:56 FROM THESE SMALL BUSINESSES.
11:39:58 ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT HAVE A SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE,
11:40:02 JOCCS WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE 5% PARTICIPATION.
11:40:07 SO HOW DOES THE JOCCS TIME LINE FOR CONTRACTS COMPARE TO THE
11:40:12 TIMELINE FOR TRADITIONAL BIDS FOR CONTRACTING?
11:40:15 UNDER THE JOCCS CONTRACT, IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 7 DAYS.
11:40:19 TRADITIONAL BIDS ABOUT 30 DAYS. UNDER THE JOBS CONTRACTS,
11:40:20 THE PLAN PREPARATION COULD TAKE UP TO 90 DAYS BUT ONLY ABOUT
11:40:27 20% OF THE TIME.
11:40:28 TRADITIONAL BIDDING COULD TAKE UP TO 90 DAYS AND THAT'S

11:40:31 ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME.
11:40:34 IN TERMS OF OBTAINING PRICING ON THE JOCCS CONTRACT IT'S A
11:40:37 PERIOD OF 40 DAYS, WITH TRADITIONAL BIDDING ABOUT 90 DAYS,
11:40:41 IN TERMS OF REWARDING A JOCCS CONTRACT IT WOULD TAKE ROUGHLY
11:40:45 ABOUT 7 DAYS.
11:40:50 TRADITIONAL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 DAYS.
11:40:51 SO ARE THERE ANY CREDIBLE NATIONAL STUDIES THAT SUPPORT JOBS
11:40:56 ORDER CONTRACTING?
11:40:59 YES, THERE IS.
11:40:59 IN 2017 THE PERFORMANCE-BASED STUDIES RESOURCE GROUP FROM
11:41:04 ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, DEL E. WEBB SCHOOL OF
11:41:09 CONSTRUCTION, CONDUCTED A STUDY APPROXIMATELY 50 JOCCS
11:41:14 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
11:41:16 INDUSTRIES.
11:41:17 AND THE STUDY PARAMETERS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
11:41:19 17 INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS, 200 ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE
11:41:24 CONTACTED, 47 CLIENT SURVEYS THAT WERE COLLECTED, 13
11:41:30 CONTRACT VENDOR SURVEYS WERE COMPLETED, AND APPROXIMATELY 5
11:41:33 BILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WERE SURVEYED, AND 3,000 DATA
11:41:37 POINTS WERE COLLECTED.
11:41:39 SO THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY CONDUCTED BY ARIZONA STATE
11:41:42 UNIVERSITY PRODUCED THE FOLLOWING RESULTS.
11:41:45 99% SURVEYED RECOMMENDED JOCCS.
11:41:52 96% OF JOCCS PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED.
11:41:54 87% OF JOCCS PROJECTS WERE DELIVERED ON TIME.

11:41:58 91% OF JOCCS PROJECTS WERE DELIVERED ON BUDGET.
11:42:01 AND THE JOCCS CLIENTS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE STUDY
11:42:05 ESTIMATED AN AVERAGE COST SAVINGS OF 24% IN TERMS OF
11:42:08 ADMINISTRATIVE COST BY USING JOCCS AS A PASS-THROUGH OVER
11:42:11 TRADITIONAL METHOD.
11:42:14 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:42:15 SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. BRAD BAIRD WITH THE
11:42:18 ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, AND MR. GRAYSON BRIGGS, THE
11:42:25 DEVELOPMENT MANAGER OF THE GORDIAN GROUP TO COME UP AND
11:42:28 ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
11:42:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS?
11:42:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION ALL OF THEM.
11:42:36 BACK IN 95 -- 2005, THE CITY WAS DOING BUSINESS WITH JOCCS.
11:42:44 AND YOU CAN STOP ME.
11:42:44 YOU CAN CORRECT ME.
11:42:45 YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
11:42:47 HOW DID JOCCS START WITH THE CITY?
11:42:50 DID JOCCS ASK THE CITY FOR A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST ON
11:42:51 EVERYBODY THAT WAS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY?
11:42:56 YES OR NO?
11:42:56 >> NO.
11:42:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THEN JOCCS CAME IN AND HOW DID THEY
11:43:02 GET ALL THE CONTRACTORS THAT THE CITY DID BUSINESS WITH?
11:43:05 >> WE ISSUED A COMPETITIVE REQUEST PROPOSAL, COUNCILMAN
11:43:11 MIRANDA, TO SECURE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL CONTRACTORS.

11:43:16 WE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED RESPONSES AND SELECTED AN RV
11:43:23 PROCESS, SO WE DID A COMPETITIVE PROCESS TO SELECT THOSE
11:43:26 PROPOSALS THAT FELL UNDER THE JOB ORDERS CONTRACT.
11:43:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME GIVEN TO A
11:43:33 PRIVATE CORPORATION WHICH I BELIEVE IS AGAINST THE LAW.
11:43:35 AN ITEM NUMBER 4 OF THIS CONTRACT WHICH I HAVE READ IS
11:43:39 VAGUE.
11:43:45 ITEM 4.
11:43:45 CITY SHALL PROVIDE WORK SPACE, ACCESS TO THE INTERNET,
11:43:50 COPIERS, PRINTERS, FAX MACHINES, LOCAL SERVICES, TO BE USED
11:43:54 BY THE GORDIAN ON-SITE STAFF.
11:43:58 DO YOU HAVE AN OFFICE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
11:44:00 >> WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY SPACE WHEN THEY WOULD COME IN
11:44:03 ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.
11:44:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SEE.
11:44:06 I SEE.
11:44:07 AND IT WAS NOT 1.9%.
11:44:10 I HATE TO BE HALF A PERCENT OFF BUT IT'S 1.95%.
11:44:14 NOT 1.9 AS WAS STATED IN THE RECORD EARLIER.
11:44:18 WHEN YOU SAY 5% OF SOMETHING OF 8 MILLION, IT SOUNDS LIKE
11:44:22 NOTHING BUT IT'S $400,000.
11:44:25 IF JOCCS CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAY THEY CAN DO HERE,
11:44:31 THEY DON'T NEED CITY COUNCIL.
11:44:32 THEY DON'T NEED THE MAYOR.
11:44:33 THEY DON'T NEED YOUR OFFICE.

11:44:35 THEY DON'T NEED MR. BAIRD BEING EMPLOYED.
11:44:38 THEY DON'T NEED ANYBODY BECAUSE THEY DO IT ALL.
11:44:40 AT FIRST IT STARTED OUT WHERE THEY WOULD COME IN WHEN A
11:44:44 CONTRACT WAS DOING QUICK WORK ON REPAIRS JUST TO LAY SOD.
11:44:49 THAT'S HOW IT STARTED IF I REMEMBER IN THOSE TIMES.
11:44:53 AND I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE GET, BUT THEN THEY STARTED
11:44:58 DOING A LOT MORE THAN JUST SOD.
11:45:02 THE LAST, WHICH WAS REALLY NEEDED, THE FALLEN GOOD MEN AND
11:45:07 WOMEN WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY
11:45:10 DID THE INITIAL LIGHT IN ONE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM
11:45:12 LYKES PARK TO THE MONUMENT TO THE FALLEN OFFICERS.
11:45:15 I BELIEVE IF MY MEMORY CORRECTS ME WAS $38,000.
11:45:19 NO BID.
11:45:20 NO NOTHING.
11:45:21 AM I CORRECT OR NOT?
11:45:24 >> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THOSE THINGS, MR. MIRANDA.
11:45:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I AM GOING BY MEMORY.
11:45:29 I AM GOING TEN YEARS BACK.
11:45:31 MY COMPUTER MAY BE A LITTLE OFF.
11:45:34 I MAY HAVE A DISCONNECT ONCE IN A WHILE.
11:45:36 SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS, WE ARE GETTING LAZY.
11:45:41 IF THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, YOU DON'T NEED US.
11:45:44 WE NEED THEM.
11:45:45 AND WE CAN ALL LEAVE BECAUSE THEY CAN RUN THE WHOLE CITY.
11:45:48 I HAVE NOTICED HERE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

11:45:50 AND JOB ORDERS, MEETING COST SPACE, PRICE PROPOSAL, REVIEW,
11:45:56 SUBMITTALS, CONTRACT, EVERYTHING.
11:45:58 YOU NAME IT.
11:45:59 THEY DO IT.
11:46:03 I DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER.
11:46:07 LOOK AT THE LOCATION WHERE THEY SAID THEIR ADDRESS IS IN
11:46:10 JUPITER, FLORIDA.
11:46:13 YOU KNOW WHAT IT SAYS?
11:46:14 IT MAY BE WRONG.
11:46:16 APARTMENT NUMBER 2.
11:46:18 AM I CORRECT OR NOT?
11:46:19 >> OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IS -- GRAYSON BRIGGS WITH GORDIAN.
11:46:27 OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IS OUT OF GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA.
11:46:30 >> I KNOW YOU ARE BIG.
11:46:32 >> FIELD STAFF BASED IN FLORIDA, POSITIONED GEOGRAPHICALLY
11:46:36 ALL AROUND FLORIDA.
11:46:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN YOU GO AGAINST A BIDDING PROCESS
11:46:41 THAT WE ESTABLISHED MANY YEARS AGO, WHERE PEOPLE CAN BID,
11:46:45 THERE'S OTHER WAYS OF DOING THIS, IF YOU THINK OUTSIDE THE
11:46:49 BOX.
11:46:50 AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, WHEN YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
11:46:53 MAKES A BID PROCESS IT GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE BIDDING
11:46:56 PROCESS ON VARIOUS ITEMS THAT WE DO, AND YOU DO A GOOD JOB
11:46:59 DOING THAT.
11:46:59 DON'T GET ME WRONG.

11:47:01 AND THESE THINGS COME UP.
11:47:05 THERE SHOULD BE A SUB AREA WHERE IT'S FOR EMERGENCIES, AND
11:47:09 THEY BID ON ALSO THAT.
11:47:10 BUT WE ONLY DO ONE BID PROCESS.
11:47:13 WE ARE NOT BROAD MINDED ENOUGH TO DO VARIOUS, EVEN THOUGH
11:47:17 THERE MIGHT BE INSPECTIONS.
11:47:18 THIS IS ON EVERYTHING FROM PLUMBING TO REPAIRS TO LAYING
11:47:23 PIPES.
11:47:25 WHY DO WE HAVE ANY COMPANIES BIDDING THE PROCESS? GET RID
11:47:29 OF ALL OF THEM.
11:47:30 IF THEY ARE SO GOOD, THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SELLING US, THAT
11:47:33 THEY ARE WONDERFUL.
11:47:34 I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.
11:47:35 IF THAT'S THE CASE, GET RID OF ALL THE BID PROCESSES.
11:47:39 GET RID OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE AND JUST USE THE GORDIAN.
11:47:42 BECAUSE WHAT YOUR STATEMENT WAS THAT THEY DO IT, AND BY WHAT
11:47:46 I HAVE READ, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING.
11:47:48 THEY DO IT ALL.
11:47:50 YOU DON'T NEED ANYONE ELSE IN THE CITY.
11:47:52 YOU SAVE MONEY, YOU SAY.
11:47:54 BUT THEN BACK ON THAT 1.95%, ANYTHING OVER THAT.
11:47:59 SO LET'S SAY WE GO TO THE 250 MILLION OR 251 MILLION-DOLLAR
11:48:03 ITEM THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON STORMWATER.
11:48:06 IF THEY WERE TO DO PART OF THAT THEY GET 1.95%.
11:48:10 AM I CORRECT?

11:48:11 WHICH WOULD BE $4,875,000.
11:48:14 >> TAKE T WAY THAT WE ARE STRUCTURING --
11:48:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T ASK YOU.
11:48:19 AM I RIGHT IN THE FIGURE THAT I JUST SAID?
11:48:21 >> I HAVEN'T CALCULATED THAT.
11:48:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU GO BY 10% AND CUT TO THE 5% AND YOU
11:48:27 TAKE HALF OF THAT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.
11:48:29 >> THE PROJECT THAT WILL --
11:48:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 251 MILLION, THAT'S WHY I ROUND IT IS
11:48:38 $4,875,000.
11:48:41 I DO MATH PRETTY QUICK.
11:48:45 SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:48:48 WE STARTED OUT LAYING SOD.
11:48:50 AND YOU LOOK AT A CONTRACT.
11:48:54 THAT ISN'T HERE IN A MORE.
11:48:56 THEY HAVE LEARNED A LOT BECAUSE THE FIRST CONTRACT I READ
11:48:58 WAS THAT BIG.
11:49:02 AND I DON'T READ VERY WELL.
11:49:04 BUT I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT I READ.
11:49:08 I DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT THE FIRST TIME.
11:49:10 IN FACT WE GOT RID OF IT.
11:49:11 AND I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
11:49:13 COUNCIL CAN DO WHAT THEY PLEASE.
11:49:15 NOT THIS GUY.
11:49:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:49:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:49:17 ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS TIME?
11:49:21 LET ME ASK YOU.
11:49:22 IS THIS OPTIONAL?
11:49:30 >> IT'S BASICALLY ANOTHER TOOL, PROCUREMENT TOOL IN THE TOOL
11:49:35 BOX.
11:49:35 SO WHEN THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE
11:49:38 RELATIVELY QUICKLY, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOT
11:49:42 QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS, WE HAVE GOT INSURANCE IN PLACE, AND
11:49:47 FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE HAVE AN ADA VIOLATION IN ONE OF
11:49:50 OUR FACILITIES.
11:49:52 AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
11:49:53 WE CAN CALL THE JOCCS CONTRACTOR TO COME IN VERY QUICKLY AND
11:49:57 CORRECT THAT SITUATION.
11:49:58 IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A TOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE USED ACROSS
11:50:02 THE BOARD.
11:50:05 WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE DOING OUR PROCUREMENT THE WAY WE
11:50:08 DO. THIS IS FOR VERY SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZE CAN HAVE BEEN
11:50:12 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO GET TO A VERY QUICK
11:50:15 AND EFFICIENT MANNER.
11:50:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COPE, YOU HAVE A COMMENT?
11:50:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO WITH THIS CONTRACT, THE PROJECTS AND THE
11:50:28 MONEYS, DOES THIS BYPASS COUNCIL?
11:50:32 >> YOU WILL APPROVE THE JOCCS CONSULTING AGREEMENT AND THEN
11:50:35 WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE ACTUAL JOCCS CONSULTANT.

11:50:38 AND SO AT THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE THE APPROVAL NECESSARY
11:50:43 FROM COUNCIL IF YOU APPROVE IT TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:50:46 SO YOU WOULD DO THAT ALL AT ONE TIME.
11:50:49 TODAY WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, THE JOCCS CONSULTANT WOULD
11:50:53 HAVE US DEVELOP THE BE JOCCS PROGRAM WHICH INCLUDES BE
11:50:59 CONSULTATION --
11:51:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
11:51:02 THANK YOU.
11:51:02 THANK YOU.
11:51:02 >> WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
11:51:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY, I GET IT.
11:51:08 >>HARRY COHEN: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS AGREEMENT IS 2
11:51:12 YEARS AND TERMINABLE ON 30 DAYS NOTICE BY THE CITY.
11:51:17 >> CORRECT.
11:51:18 >>HARRY COHEN: SO THE CONTRACT REALLY COULD BE TO UTILIZE
11:51:23 OR NOT UTILIZE AT WILL, AND CAN BE STOPPED AT ANY TIME.
11:51:28 BUT I DO WANT TO ASK.
11:51:30 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S EXAMPLE WAS THE STORMWATER PROGRAM THAT
11:51:35 THEORETICALLY THE ENTIRE THING COULD BE LET OUT TO THE
11:51:40 COMPANY AND SUBJECT TO THAT 1.95% SURCHARGE.
11:51:44 CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN, YOU TALK ABOUT ADA VIOLATIONS.
11:51:49 IS THERE A LIMIT ON THE SIZE OF THE TYPE OF THE CONTRACT?
11:51:54 >> YES, THERE IS.
11:51:55 >>HARRY COHEN: YOU WOULD BE ALLOWING TO GO THROUGH THIS?
11:51:58 >> THAT'S CORRECT. THOSE CONTRACTS, THE WORK ORDERS UNDER

11:52:00 $100,000.
11:52:02 >>HARRY COHEN: AND THERE'S NO DIVIDING A JOB INTO MULTIPLE
11:52:09 PARTS.
11:52:10 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
11:52:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO FINISH MY SECOND BITE AT
11:52:17 THE APPLE.
11:52:19 I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SWALLOW IT.
11:52:21 BUT WE SAY ABOUT CONTRACTORS.
11:52:29 THEY ARE USING THE SAME CONTRACTOR THE CITY USES.
11:52:32 AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?
11:52:37 COMING IN FROM MIAMI OR SOUTH CAROLINA OR JUPITER.
11:52:40 THEY ARE HERE.
11:52:40 AND ON TOP OF WHAT THEY ARE CHARGING, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE
11:52:44 THEY ARE SQUEEZING THEM ALSO.
11:52:46 I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE.
11:52:47 BUT WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HAPPENING TO US?
11:52:49 I DON'T CARE WHAT MIAMI BEACH DOES.
11:52:52 I COULD CARE LESS WHAT ST. PETE BEACH DOES.
11:52:54 I ONLY CARE WHAT TAMPA DOES.
11:52:56 WHAT ARE WE DOING?
11:52:58 WE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO DO IT OURSELVES?
11:53:03 IF THEY ARE USING THE SAME CONTRACTOR, THEY ARE USING THE
11:53:05 SAME WORKFORCE, AND IF WE GET A BETTER DEAL, AND SAY WE ARE
11:53:10 DOING IT FASTER, THERE'S GOT TO BE A LEGAL WAY WHERE WE CAN
11:53:14 DO THINGS ON AN EXPEDITIOUS WAY.

11:53:16 IF WE ARE DOING WITH THEM FOR 100,000 OR LESS WHY CAN'T WE
11:53:19 DO IT OURSELVES AND SAVE OF THE 5% OF 8 MILLION?
11:53:22 AND SAVE THE 1.95, AND THERE'S ANOTHER DEAL HERE THAT SAYS
11:53:29 PROJECT MANAGEMENT FEE IF YOU GO INTO TIER 1 OR 2.
11:53:34 THAT'S 1 AND A HALF.
11:53:37 SO WHEN THINGS START THIS WAY, AND YOU GO OUT, AND YOU CAN'T
11:53:44 PICK UP A LOG, YOU CERTAINLY AREN'T GOING TO MOVE A
11:53:48 BUILDING.
11:53:48 WE CAN MOVE A BUILDING.
11:53:49 WE JUST CAN'T PICK UP THE LOG.
11:53:51 THESE WHAT MY PROBLEM S.AND IT'S NOT WITH ANYBODY BUT THE
11:53:54 WHOLE SYSTEM.
11:53:55 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:53:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:53:58 MR. COHEN?
11:54:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: VERY QUICK QUESTION AND THIS COULD BE TO ANY
11:54:04 OF OUR STAFF.
11:54:05 IS THERE A PARTICULAR SAVINGS IN TIME AND MONEY FOR THIS
11:54:08 PARTICULAR CONTRACT?
11:54:13 EITHER WORKERS TIME OR MONEY ONLINE?
11:54:18 >>BRAD BAIRD: PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
11:54:19 AND YES, THERE IS.
11:54:22 WHAT OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE USED THIS FOR IS IN LIEU OF
11:54:26 ISSUING AN EMERGENCY FOR EVERY LITTLE ITEM THAT YOU WANT
11:54:30 COMPLETED QUICKLY, THIS CONTRACT ALLOWS US TO BE A LOT MORE

11:54:37 NIMBLE.
11:54:37 SO I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF BACK IN -- A WHILE BACK
11:54:44 MANY YEARS AGO WE HAD A LOT OF WATER MAIN BREAKS IN A SHORT
11:54:47 AMOUNT OF TIME.
11:54:48 YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER THAT.
11:54:49 SO WE WERE ABLE TO USE JOCCS TO PERFORM THE RESTORATION BY
11:54:55 REPLACING A SIDEWALK PANEL QUICKLY WHEN WE HAD HUNDREDS OF
11:54:59 RESIDENTS SAYING, WHERE IS MY SIDEWALK GOING TO BE FIXED?
11:55:03 AND WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE TO MAKE
11:55:06 THAT HAPPEN.
11:55:07 SO WE WERE ABLE TO MOBILIZE QUITE A FEW SUBCONTRACTORS FOR,
11:55:12 YOU KNOW, WORK ORDERS THAT WERE A THOUSAND DOLLARS, $1500 TO
11:55:16 GET THOSE DONE.
11:55:19 IT'S LIKE GREG SAYS, IT ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOL BOX.
11:55:23 WE HAVE USED IT FOR THINGS LIKE ROOF LEAKS AROUND THE CITY.
11:55:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND.
11:55:30 ANY KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT THAT SAVINGS HAS GIVEN TO YOU IN
11:55:32 TERMS OF MANPOWER AND OTHER STUFF?
11:55:34 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SMALL PROJECTS,
11:55:37 EVEN IF WE GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS, WE DON'T HAVE A
11:55:40 CONTRACT IN PLACE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME THAT TAKES A
11:55:44 BAY FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
11:55:46 BUT HAS THERE EVER BEEN AN ESTIMATE OF THAT?
11:55:49 >>BRAD BAIRD: NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE BUT IT CERTAINLY SAVES
11:55:51 TIME WHICH IS LIKE YOU SAY, IT'S TIME AWAY FROM DOING YOUR

11:55:55 OTHER WORK.
11:55:56 AND SO THAT PROCESS, AND IN THAT TIME, IF YOU HAVE A ROOF
11:56:02 LEAK, AND YOU HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO IT, IT CAUSES FURTHER
11:56:06 DAMAGE.
11:56:06 I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE.
11:56:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S FEIGN I.WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS
11:56:10 ANYTHING DONE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO GET BADE
11:56:12 BASED ON THE CONTRACT, GET PAID BASED ON A LOT OF OTHER THAT
11:56:15 COME INTO IT.
11:56:16 AND THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IF WE ARE SAVING TIME, WE
11:56:19 ARE SAVING MONEY, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS.
11:56:22 SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON YOU ENTERED INTO THIS CONTRACT.
11:56:25 IT'S NOT THAT WE CAN'T DO THE JOB.
11:56:27 IT'S THAT WE PROBABLY ARE STRETCHED IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF
11:56:31 PEOPLE WE HAVE, AND THIS IS A BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT WAY
11:56:34 OF DOING IT.
11:56:34 THAT'S MY GUESS.
11:56:35 OKAY.
11:56:35 >> THAT IS TRUE.
11:56:37 THANK YOU.
11:56:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TALKING SIDEWALKS.
11:56:40 THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER THAT CAME UP.
11:56:42 WHEN YOU LOOK AT SIDEWALKS, WE HAD FOUR ORDINANCES, BECAUSE
11:56:46 I WAS LOOKING AT THIS YESTERDAY.
11:56:47 THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE WAS STARTED, AND IT STARTED OUT AT

11:56:51 ABOUT, I FORGET, OF $16, WENT TO $19 IN '93.
11:56:56 THEN IT WENT TO -- IT WENT AS HIGH AS $44.
11:57:06 A FOOT.
11:57:06 THAT'S WHAT WE WERE CHARGING.
11:57:10 THROUGH OUR EFFORTS IN 2010 WE CHANGED IT AT 29 FEET.
11:57:14 WE WERE -- I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS DOING THIS JOB BUT THAT'S
11:57:17 WHAT THE CITY WAS CHARGING IN LIEU OF TO THE SIDEWALK
11:57:21 PROGRAM.
11:57:22 $43 A LINEAR FOOT.
11:57:26 AND IN 2010, I GOT IT REDUCED TO $29.
11:57:34 THAT'S WHAT JOCCS HAS.
11:57:40 SO WE AIN'T SAVING IN A MONEY THERE THAT WE ARE DOING.
11:57:44 THE ONES THAT PAID IT WERE THE PEOPLE WHO HAD TO PUT A
11:57:49 SIDEWALK IN WHEN THEY HAD A DITCH NEXT TO THE BUILDING.
11:57:53 SO YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND YOU SEE THAT SIDEWALK
11:57:56 YOU ARE GOING TO JUMP A DITCH TO WALK 60 FEET ON THE
11:57:58 SIDEWALK AND JUMP THE DITCH AGAIN TO GO BACK AND WALK ON THE
11:58:01 STREET.
11:58:01 THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
11:58:03 BUT WE CHANGED THAT.
11:58:05 AND IT'S STILL -- EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A SIDEWALK.
11:58:12 I'M NOT AGAINST SIDEWALKS.
11:58:13 BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS A MECHANISM THAT STILL DOES NOT WORK.
11:58:17 I WAS LOOKING AT THIS YESTERDAY.
11:58:20 WHEN THE SIDEWALKS CAME UP, I JUST RAN OUT THERE.

11:58:23 I DIDN'T KNOW I OH COULD STILL RUN 100 YARDS.
11:58:27 IT WAS REALLY 60 FEET.
11:58:29 AND IN 2005 -- AND -- AND THE ONE BEFORE THAT.
11:58:38 SO IT VARIES.
11:58:39 AND IT KEEPS CHANGING.
11:58:42 FOLKS, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
11:58:44 I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE COULD DO
11:58:47 IT OURSELVES.
11:58:48 WE CAN GET THE SAME CONTRACTOR.
11:58:50 THEY HIRE THE SAME CONTRACTORS WE DO.
11:58:52 SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO BABY IS THE SIT THE
11:58:56 SAME CONTRACTOR THAT I AM?
11:58:57 THAT'S ALL THEY ARE DOING.
11:58:59 THAT'S JUST MY FEELING.
11:59:00 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:59:01 I WON'T TALK AGAIN ON THIS SUBJECT MATTER.
11:59:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:59:07 MR. COHEN, THIS IS PULLED FROM YOUR COMMITTEE.
11:59:08 WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
11:59:10 >>HARRY COHEN: [OFF MICROPHONE] I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
11:59:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:59:15 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:59:16 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:59:18 OPPOSED?
11:59:20 MIRANDA NAY.

11:59:20 >> CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING.
11:59:23 NO.
11:59:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:59:26 THANK YOU.
11:59:27 WE NEED TO GET AN EXTENSION TILL 12:30.
11:59:39 MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:59:40 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:59:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:59:44 OPPOSED?
11:59:45 ALL RIGHT.
11:59:50 NUMBER 67.
11:59:52 MR. VIERA.
11:59:53 >> LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:59:56 I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION TO WHAT THIS IS.
12:00:00 AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF THESE, ACCORDING TO THE CODE, THE TREE
12:00:02 CODE, WHEN A TREE IS REMOVED BASED ON THAT TREE CAUSING
12:00:07 STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, THE PROPERTY
12:00:09 OWNER CANNOT REMOVE THAT STRUCTURE UNLESS IT'S IN IMMINENT
12:00:14 DANGER, OR IF COUNCIL MAKES ONE OF THREE FINDINGS THAT THE
12:00:19 FINDINGS WERE PROVIDED TO YOU IN A MEMO THAT I SENT EARLIER,
12:00:24 THAT IF IT'S NECESSARY FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND
12:00:26 WELFARE, OR IT'S AN UNDUE, UNFORESEEABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN,
12:00:31 OR EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNUSUAL HARDSHIPS.
12:00:35 SO THE APPLICANT COMES BEFORE YOU TODAY REQUESTING THAT YOU
12:00:38 ALLOW DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE.

12:00:41 AND YOU WANT TO ALLOW IT THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE A FINDING
12:00:45 THAT ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA APPLIES.
12:00:47 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:00:49 >> GOOD MORNING.
12:00:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:01:01 FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I COMMEND YOUR STAFF THAT
12:01:08 DEALT WITH MY TREES, THAT WERE HITTING MY HOUSE.
12:01:15 >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
12:01:17 >> OH, I'M SORRY.
12:01:19 W. REYNOLDS ALLEN.
12:01:21 I AM THE OWNER OF THE HOME AT 2929 WEST VILLA ROSA PARK AND
12:01:30 HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE AUGUST THE 20th, 1980.
12:01:42 THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU ARE OLDER SUCH AS ME THAT YOU
12:01:46 MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE WHEN YOUR
12:01:48 CHILDREN DON'T LIVE CLOSE TO YOU.
12:01:50 I FILED THIS PETITION.
12:01:52 WE HAD THREE TREES.
12:01:54 CATHY BURKE AND HER STAFF, DAVE RILEY CAME OUT, REVIEWED THE
12:02:00 SITUATION, APPROVED THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES, AND UNDERSTOOD
12:02:08 YOUR STATUTE, WHILE THERE IS A PROHIBITION FOR BUILDING
12:02:17 WITHIN TWO YEARS AFTER THE REMOVAL, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY,
12:02:23 AND I HAVE THE RIGHT TO PETITION YOU TO SAY I DON'T HAVE TO
12:02:30 WAIT.
12:02:33 THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO BUY MY PROPERTY.
12:02:37 IT IS MY BACK DOOR NEIGHBOR ARE WHO LIVES ON BAYSHORE COURT.

12:02:45 HE HAS IN A BACKYARD.
12:02:48 MY LOT IS 167 FEET WIDE.
12:02:53 WE REMOVED THREE GRAND OAKS WITH PERMISSION AND PERMITS.
12:02:59 I STILL HAVE 11 GRAND OAKS AND MANY OTHER TREES.
12:03:08 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOT, AND I HATE TO SELL IT.
12:03:11 BUT TIME COMES.
12:03:14 MY NEIGHBOR PLANS -- AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT.
12:03:19 MY PETITION SAID WE HAD A CONTRACT.
12:03:23 WE DO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT SIGNED AT THIS POINT.
12:03:26 MY NEIGHBOR AND HIS WIFE ARE IN EUROPE AND WILL RETURN, I
12:03:29 THINK, ON THE 19th.
12:03:33 HIS PLANS ARE TO EXTEND -- HE HAS A 65-FOOT LOT ON BAYSHORE
12:03:40 COURT.
12:03:41 HE WANTS TO RUN THAT VILLA ROSA PARK AND MAKE THAT HIS
12:03:48 BACKYARD BECAUSE HE HAD GRANDCHILDREN, DOGS AND CATS, AND HE
12:03:53 HAS NO BACKYARD.
12:03:55 THE OTHER 102 FEET THAT WILL REMAIN, HE WANTS TO MAKE THAT,
12:04:03 HE AND HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS WANT TO BUILD A HOME FOR
12:04:07 THEIR SISTER, WHO IS DISABLED, AND WHEELCHAIR BOUND, AND
12:04:13 THEY WANT TO BUILD A HOME THAT ACCOMMODATES HER NEEDS THERE.
12:04:18 IN FACT, THEIR SON-IN-LAW IS HERE AND CAN TELL YOU WHAT
12:04:24 THEIR PLANS ARE.
12:04:25 FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW, AS OPPOSED TO -- I HAD AN
12:04:29 OPPORTUNITY TO SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER THAT WILL PAY ME MORE
12:04:32 THAN THEY WILL PAY ME, BUT I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

12:04:37 I HAD A PERMIT TO TAKE ONE OF THESE TREES DOWN IN TWINE BUT
12:04:41 I DIDN'T DO IT.
12:04:43 I HAD A BUILDER COME IN.
12:04:44 I PAID HIM $5,000 TO BUILD A LITTLE OVER THE ROOTS AND MOVE
12:04:49 THE WALL IN SIX INCHES.
12:04:52 THEN AFTER EIGHT, NINE YEARS, IT STARTED MOVING THE HOUSE
12:04:56 AGAIN.
12:04:57 THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1949 BY CURRY WHIT.
12:05:02 AND WHEN HE BUILT IT, THERE WAS NO SIGNING.
12:05:05 AND SO THESE THREE TREES WERE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE
12:05:09 HOUSE, AND OVER THE YEARS THEY CRACKED THE FOUNDATION -- NOT
12:05:15 THE FOUNDATION, I'M SORRY, THE FLOOR IN MY FAMILY ROOM,
12:05:19 PULLED MY BATHROOM AWAY FROM THE HOUSE, AND RAISED THE
12:05:22 FLOOR.
12:05:23 SO THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGIT MASSEY OF THE
12:05:27 PERMITS.
12:05:28 ALL I AM ASKING YOU NOW IS MY WIFE AND I, THE FORMER
12:05:37 ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I, WANT TO MOVE TO RALEIGH
12:05:41 WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE.
12:05:42 AND WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR TWO YEARS.
12:05:45 AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:05:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:05:50 ANY COMMENTS?
12:05:55 >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
12:05:58 I'M SORRY.

12:05:58 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THIS PROCEDURE, MOVE ITEM 59.
12:06:03 >> SECOND.
12:06:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
12:06:08 MR. SIMPSON, DID YOU WANT A SPECIFIC FINDING? THE
12:06:12 PETITIONER ALSO HAS A LETTER IN THE FILE.
12:06:17 YOU HAVE A LETTER IN THE CITY?
12:06:18 HAVE YOU WRITTEN A LETTER?
12:06:20 HAVE YOU WRITTEN A LETTER TO THE CITY ABOUT THIS ISSUE AS
12:06:22 WELL THAT'S IN THE FILE?
12:06:25 >> PICTURES AND ATTACHMENTS THAT IS PART OF MY PETITION.
12:06:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
12:06:34 >>JERROD SIMPSON: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
12:06:42 THE CODE REQUIRES A FINDING FROM CITY COUNCIL BASED ON ONE
12:06:45 OF THE THREE CRITERIA THAT I STATED.
12:06:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU. THIS IS ON CONSENT
12:06:53 AGENDA.
12:06:53 SO WAS IT INCORRECTLY PUT ON THE AGENDA?
12:06:56 OR WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
12:06:58 >>JERROD SIMPSON: NO.
12:06:59 COUNCILMAN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE OF THESE BEFORE.
12:07:05 SO WHEN THE CLERK ASKED -- THERE WASN'T A GOOD PLACE TO PUT
12:07:09 IT.
12:07:10 SHE ASKED ME IF SHE COULD PUT IT THERE.
12:07:12 I SAID THAT WAS FINE AND THEN I SENT A MEMO ASKING IT BE
12:07:15 PULLED SO THAT A FINDING COULD BE MADE.

12:07:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE FINDING IS TO APPROVE THE APPEAL,
12:07:22 CORRECT?
12:07:23 SUMP SYMPTOM IF COUNCIL WISHES TO BE ALLOW IT, IT WILL NOT
12:07:26 ACTUALLY ISSUE A PERMIT.
12:07:27 THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL STILL HAVE TO COME AND GET A
12:07:29 DEMOLITION PERMIT THROUGH THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT BUT HE
12:07:31 CANNOT GET THAT PERMIT UNTIL CITY COUNCIL MAKES A FINDING
12:07:35 BASED ON ONE OF THE THREE CRITERIA.
12:07:38 >> IT ALSO SAYS "OR FOR JUST CAUSE."
12:07:47 SO IT'S THREE OR FOR JUST CAUSE.
12:07:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE NOT THE SUPREME COURT BUT WE ARE
12:07:56 GOING TO RULE.
12:08:00 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:01 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEM 59 BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S
12:08:06 MEETING CITY CODE 13-45 SUBSECTION G-2-C-2 BASED UPON PUBLIC
12:08:13 HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, FOR CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:08:16 >> SECOND.
12:08:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
12:08:20 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
12:08:21 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:08:24 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:08:26 OPPOSED?
12:08:28 CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
12:08:28 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DON'T LET THE MAYOR KNOW YOU ARE GOING

12:08:35 TO RALLY.
12:08:39 RALEIGH.
12:08:39 >> I WOULD REALLY RATHER NOT GO.
12:08:42 >> I DON'T BLAME YOU.
12:08:43 >> ITEM 78.
12:08:44 >> I MOVE THAT ITEM.
12:08:46 >> MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:08:47 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
12:08:49 DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:08:50 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:08:59 ALL RIGHT.
12:09:00 ITEM NUMBER 79.
12:09:01 >>LACHONE DOCK: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
12:09:06 COUNCIL, I AM BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING ON ITEM 79, THE KENNEL
12:09:12 REGULATIONS THAT ARE FOUND IN CHAPTER 27 UNDER SECTION
12:09:15 27-282.25 AND 26.
12:09:23 THE KENNEL REGULATIONS ARE DIVIDED INTO SMALL AND LARGE
12:09:25 KENNELS.
12:09:26 FOR THE SMALL KENNELS THEY ARE ALLOWED IN OP 1, OFFICE
12:09:29 PROFESSIONAL 1, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND
12:09:33 THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, IG, AND
12:09:37 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY IH.
12:09:38 THE LARGE KENNELS ARE PERMITTED IN THE CI DISTRICT
12:09:42 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, AND INDUSTRIAL
12:09:46 HEAVY DISTRICT.

12:09:48 FOR THE LARGE KENNELS, ANY KENNEL THAT HAS ANIMALS UP TO 10.
12:09:53 UP TO 10 ANIMALS, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THE OUTDOOR
12:09:57 KENNEL RUN BE SET AT A MINIMUM 10 FEET FROM ANY SINGLE
12:10:03 FAMILY USE.
12:10:04 IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN TEN ANIMALS THEN YOUR OUTDOOR RUNS
12:10:08 MUST BE SET AT A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL
12:10:12 USE.
12:10:12 THE OTHER REQUIREMENT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 10 ANIMALS IS
12:10:14 THAT ONE ADDITIONAL ACRE PER EVERY 10 ANIMALS MUST BE
12:10:19 PROVIDED.
12:10:21 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BECOME AN ISSUE RECENTLY.
12:10:24 JUST GIVEN PARCELS WITHIN THE CITY.
12:10:27 IT HARD TO FIND THAT ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.
12:10:29 BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS AND BASED ON THE USES THAT WE
12:10:32 HAVE TODAY LIKE DOGGIE DAYCARE.
12:10:35 I BELIEVE WHAT CAME UP WAS THE REZONING FOR THE HUMANE
12:10:39 SOCIETY.
12:10:40 IT'S THIS REQUIREMENT THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRED THEM TO HAVE TO
12:10:42 COME IN FOR A REZONING.
12:10:44 SO ONE THING STAFF WILL RECOMMEND IS IF CITY COUNCIL'S
12:10:48 DESIRE TO REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT, AND COUNCIL CAN DIRECT
12:10:52 STAFF TO RESEARCH THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE STATE'S
12:10:55 REQUIREMENT FOR EACH ANIMAL.
12:10:57 AND WE CAN ACTUALLY RUN THE CHANGE WITH THE JULY CYCLE OF
12:11:00 THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

12:11:03 WHETHER IT IS REMOVAL OR TO AMEND IT BUT STAFF
12:11:06 RECOMMENDATION IS TO AMEND IT VERSUS REMOVING IT.
12:11:09 AND IF COUNCIL DIRECTS US, STAFF CAN AT THAT TIME COME BACK
12:11:12 WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD.
12:11:14 FOR THE MINIMUM SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR EACH ANIMAL.
12:11:21 AND WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO CHANGE.
12:11:23 >>HARRY COHEN: IN THE INTEREST OF TIME BASICALLY WHEN WOULD
12:11:26 YOU COME BACK WITH LANGUAGE?
12:11:28 >>LACHONE DOCK: AT THE WORKSHOP FOR THE JULY CYCLE.
12:11:31 >>HARRY COHEN: WHICH WOULD BE WHEN?
12:11:34 >>LACHONE DOCK: PROBABLY AROUND THE END OF JULY, EARLY
12:11:36 AUGUST.
12:11:38 >>HARRY COHEN: SO WE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK TO US
12:11:43 CONSISTENT WITH THE JULY CYCLE WITH PLANS TO AMEND THE --
12:11:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
12:11:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
12:11:52 SECOND BY MRS. CAPIN.
12:11:54 DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:11:54 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:11:57 OPPOSED?
12:11:57 OKAY.
12:11:58 ITEM NUMBER 80.
12:11:59 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
12:12:07 AT THE CURRENT TIME THE CITY HAS IN A PLANS OF BUILDING
12:12:10 DOCKS ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.

12:12:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA?
12:12:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW, I AM NOT ONE THAT LIKES TO GO
12:12:19 INTO DEBT.
12:12:19 I DON'T BELIEVE IN BIG DEBT.
12:12:21 I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY DEBT IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT.
12:12:24 BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC -- I DON'T
12:12:28 KNOW, AT ONE TIME WE HAD ANYWHERE FROM 250 TO 300
12:12:33 INDIVIDUALS ON A LIST AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION
12:12:35 DEPARTMENT, FOR MOORING OF BOATS ON.
12:12:40 THERE WAS 32 DOCKS BETWEEN DAVIS ISLAND AND SOUTH OF THERE,
12:12:46 THE OTHER BRIDGE.
12:12:47 THEY ARE GONE.
12:12:48 WE TACK THEM DOWN 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
12:12:52 NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
12:12:53 AND WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE THINGS GOING ON,
12:12:58 WHY IS IT THAT WE CANNOT -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVEN EXISTS
12:13:01 ANYMORE, BUT THE COST OF DOING THAT AND BONDING IT OUT WOULD
12:13:06 BE PAID BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD DO THE MOORING OF THE
12:13:08 VESSELS THERE, NOT BY ANY OTHERS.
12:13:11 THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
12:13:12 ADMINISTRATION MAYBE DO SOMETHING TO ENHANCE THE APPEARANCE.
12:13:19 I'M AFRAID OF BIG BROTHER WITH DEEP POCKETS COMB IN, AND TO
12:13:24 ASK US TO PRIVATIZE THAT SAME AREA I JUST MENTIONED.
12:13:30 AND WE TURNED IT DOWN.
12:13:33 ONE OF THE BUILDERS, ONE OF THE BIG UNITS, WANTED IT SO HE

12:13:38 COULD SELL THE UNITS FOR MORE MONEY, I GUESS, ALONG WITH A
12:13:41 DOCK.
12:13:41 I'M ONLY MAKING THAT AS AN ASSUMPTION.
12:13:43 SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS AT ALL TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE
12:13:47 RIVERFRONT.
12:13:51 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: RIGHT THERE, NO, SIR.
12:13:52 >> DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THE RIVERFRONT ANYWHERE ELSE?
12:13:55 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: IF I MAY SUGGEST PROBABLY THE PLACE THAT
12:13:58 MAKES THE MOST SENSE WOULD BE PUTTING IT IN THE DAVIS ISLAND
12:14:00 BASIN BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE EMPLOYEES THERE.
12:14:02 WE ALREADY HAVE FACILITIES.
12:14:04 THE ISSUE WITH BAYSHORE IS NOT JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S AN
12:14:07 AGING SEAWALL, IT WOULD REQUIRE DREDGING, AND PRACTICES
12:14:10 IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SEAWALL WHICH WOULD BE RELATIVELY
12:14:13 EXPENSIVE, AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT TRAVELS ON
12:14:20 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
12:14:21 THERE IS VERY LITTLE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THOSE BOAT SLIPS
12:14:25 THAT WERE THERE ORIGINALLY.
12:14:27 NOW THERE'S VIRTUALLY NONE.
12:14:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO WE HAVE A PARKING GARAGE IN THE
12:14:33 VICINITY?
12:14:34 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: OPPORTUNITY.
12:14:39 AND YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM PEOPLE IN A LITTLE WHILE THAT
12:14:42 WILL TALK ABOUT THEY DON'T LIKE TO WALK MORE THAN 15 FEET TO
12:14:46 A PARKING GARAGE.

12:14:48 MIRANDA
12:14:54 >> BUT AGAIN THAT STRETCH WAS FAIRLY NARROW.
12:14:59 BUT AT ONE TIME THERE WAS ACTUALLY PARKING SPACES ALONG
12:15:02 BAYSHORE, IF YOU RECALL.
12:15:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ABOUT FOUR OF THEM.
12:15:06 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.
12:15:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
12:15:16 IN FACT THERE WAS A BOAT RAMP THERE TOO AT ONE TIME.
12:15:18 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CORRECT.
12:15:19 YES, SIR.
12:15:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO YOU HAVE IN A PLANS AT ALL?
12:15:26 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CORRECT.
12:15:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:15:29 >>HARRY COHEN: I WANT TO SAY, AND MAYBE I AM WRONG, BUT
12:15:33 WASN'T THERE A PLAN TO HAVE THE BOAT SLIPS ON THE TOWER
12:15:38 THAT'S BEING BUILT?
12:15:39 I HATE REFERRING TO IT AS THE OLD TRUMP TOWER SITE.
12:15:43 BUT.
12:15:48 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT IS THEIR DESIRE.
12:15:50 WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE AMOUNT OF BOAT SLIPS
12:15:52 AVAILABLE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
12:15:54 AND THERE'S STILL ROOM AT THE DAVIS ISLAND BASIN.
12:15:59 PART OF THE ISSUE WITH WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN -- THOSE WERE
12:16:03 MONTHLY SLIPS, MR. MIRANDA.
12:16:05 WHERE WE HAVE FUNDED THEM PREVIOUSLY WAS GETTING MONEY, WE

12:16:09 HAVE THEM IN THE PARKS RIGHT NOW, WAS FROM THE FISH AND
12:16:12 WILDLIFE FOLKS WHO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH US, THOSE ARE
12:16:16 BOATS THAT HAD TO BE LONGER THAN 26 FEET AND THEY COULD ONLY
12:16:19 BE FOR A TRANSITORY USE.
12:16:21 THEY COULD NOT BE LEASED TO PEOPLE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
12:16:24 SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE WHOLLY FUNDED BY THE CITY.
12:16:29 AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A PAYBACK.
12:16:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HATE TO DISAGREE.
12:16:34 BUT EVEN AS BAD AS THEY WERE, THEY WERE HARD TO WALK ON, THE
12:16:42 WATER LINE -- EVEN AT THAT TIME WHEN I LEFT OFFICE WAY BACK,
12:16:47 THEY WERE MAKING MONEY.
12:16:49 AT THAT TIME.
12:16:53 WHEN WE LET MONEY FOR MARJORIE PARK, I THINK THAT WAS BONDED
12:16:58 OUT, 5 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT WAS, THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED,
12:17:02 BUT IT WAS NEVER COMPLETED.
12:17:04 AT THAT TIME.
12:17:06 I REMEMBER WAY BACK.
12:17:09 SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT NO DOCKS,
12:17:15 NOTHING THERE AT ALL.
12:17:16 WAY WANT TO MAKE SURE IS NO PRIVATE DEVELOPER TAKES OVER THE
12:17:19 SAME THING THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE AT ONE TIME WE
12:17:23 OWNED THE DOCKS WHERE THE MARRIOTT HOTEL IS.
12:17:25 I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT.
12:17:26 >> I AM.
12:17:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND WE SOLD IT TO THEM WHICH I DID NOT

12:17:30 VOTE FOR.
12:17:31 THAT'S ALL.
12:17:31 THANK YOU.
12:17:32 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THE SUBMERSED LAND LEASE THAT WE WENT INTO
12:17:37 WITH A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL.
12:17:40 THIS COULD NOT BE DONE SINGLE-HANDEDLY.
12:17:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROBLEM IS CITY COUNCIL CHANGES FROM
12:17:45 TIME TO TIME.
12:17:49 AND WE ARE HERE.
12:17:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:17:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:17:52 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
12:17:54 ITEM NUMBER 81.
12:18:06 RACE RICE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:18:07 >>COLIN RICE: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:18:16 SO BE THE ORDINANCE, TALKING ABOUT CHICKENS.
12:18:20 I PLACED ON THE ELMO THE BIRD SANCTUARY ORDINANCE 14-176 THE
12:18:25 CURRENT MEASURE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE THAT PROVIDES
12:18:27 PROTECTION NOT JUST FOR CHICKENS BUT REALLY FOR ANY BIRD
12:18:30 WITHIN THE CITY CAN'T BE TRAPPED, HARMED, ANYTHING OF THAT
12:18:34 NATURE.
12:18:35 THAT REALLY GIVES RISE TO THE CURRENT PROTECTIONS THAT
12:18:39 CHICKENS IN OUR CITY ENJOY.
12:18:41 SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO THE MOTION, CAN WE EXEMPT ROOSTERS
12:18:46 FROM THIS PROVISION?

12:18:47 YES.
12:18:48 I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT ON THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL
12:18:51 LEVEL, THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY OTHER PROTECTIONS OUT THERE
12:18:55 FOR CHICKENS.
12:18:56 I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL THAT THIS IS REALLY THE FOR
12:19:01 CHICKENS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:19:03 SO WE ARE HERE TO TALK WITH YOU MORE ABOUT OPTIONS MOVING
12:19:08 FORWARD.
12:19:08 I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE SOME ACTION
12:19:11 TODAY AND CHOOSE TO EXEMPT ROOSTERS, PARTICULARLY, I THINK
12:19:17 REALLY THE IMPETUS FOR THIS MOTION IS TO CONSIDER THE SCOPE
12:19:19 OF THE EXEMPTION, UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH NARROWING OF THE
12:19:26 SCOPE COMES WITH ITS OWN SET OF CHALLENGES LOGISTICALLY,
12:19:30 FINANCIALLY, ADMINISTRATIVELY.
12:19:31 BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S A CERTAIN
12:19:34 CATEGORY, PERHAPS NUISANCE ROOSTER, WHO IS REMOVING THEM,
12:19:38 WHERE ARE THEY GOING, IS IT HAPPENING MAINLY, IS THERE A
12:19:42 FARM, WHERE THESE ROOSTERS ARE GOING?
12:19:45 THESE ARE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.
12:19:46 WE DO HAVE SAL RUGGIERO, THEY HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO
12:19:51 WHAT SOME OTHER AREAS HAVE DONE.
12:19:53 WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA.
12:19:55 SO I WILL TURN IT TO HIM.
12:19:57 BUT I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
12:19:58 >> SAL RUGGIERO, NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT.

12:20:09 WE SURVEYED THREE OTHER CITIES INCLUDING BRADENTON, ORLANDO,
12:20:15 AND JACKSONVILLE.
12:20:17 AND BRADENTON DOES NOT ALLOW ANY HENS OR ROOSTERS AT ALL
12:20:22 WITHIN THEIR CITY LIMITS.
12:20:25 ORLANDO HAS A PERMITTING SYSTEM WHERE THEY ALLOW ONLY 100
12:20:31 PERMITTED CHICKENS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
12:20:34 AND THEY CHARGE $50 FOR A PERMIT.
12:20:37 JACKSONVILLE IS A ALSO BIGGER BECAUSE THE CITY ENCOMPASSES
12:20:40 THE WHOLE COUNTY.
12:20:41 SO THEY ALLOW 400 PERMITTED CHICKENS IN WHICH THEY CHARGE
12:20:47 $25 A PERMIT.
12:20:52 AS FAR AS REMOVING ROOSTERS, WE DID TALK TO -- WE SURVEYED
12:20:58 TWO TRAPPERS.
12:20:59 THAT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE TO REMOVE THEM.
12:21:04 WE KNOW LAST WEEK, WE SURVEYED THE AREA AROUND CENTENNIAL
12:21:07 PARK.
12:21:08 WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AT LEAST 89 ROOSTERS IN THAT AREA.
12:21:13 AND FOR A TRAPPER TO COME IN AND THOSE 89 ROOSTERS WOULD
12:21:17 COST THE CITY $15,000.
12:21:24 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS FOR THAT, BUT THOSE ARE
12:21:26 THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
12:21:27 >>HARRY COHEN: AFTER LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS
12:21:39 MORNING, I THINK THAT IT IS NOT THE DESIRE OF THE COMMUNITY
12:21:41 TO HAVE ALL OF THE ROOSTERS REMOVED.
12:21:44 AND I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE I'M GOING TO GET INTO THIS.

12:21:47 BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT PERHAPS CHICKENS, ROOSTER BIRTH
12:21:54 CONTROL IS THE ANSWER THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TO MAKE SURE
12:21:58 THAT THE POPULATION DOES NOT EXPLODE.
12:22:05 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ AND I MADE A JOKE, AND IT IS NOT A JOKING
12:22:09 MATTER, THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE HE SHALL YOU OF
12:22:13 ROOSTER ABORTION, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD PROBABLY GET
12:22:16 VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
12:22:18 BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IF THERE IS A WAY TO KEEP THE FLOCK
12:22:25 FROM EXPONENTIALLY GROWING, I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE
12:22:29 BEST SOLUTION HERE.
12:22:32 AND HOPEFULLY, IT WOULDN'T RUN AFOUL OF NAMING OR --
12:22:39 (LAUGHTER)
12:22:39 -- OF NAMING THE BIRDS.
12:22:42 BUT MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT COULD AT
12:22:45 LEAST HELP CONTROL THE POPULATION FROM GETTING LARGER AND
12:22:49 OVER A PERIOD OF TIME REDUCE IT TO A MORE MANAGEABLE LEVEL.
12:22:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA?
12:22:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BROUGHT MY PET ROOSTER WITH ME TODAY.
12:23:02 PEDRO AND I HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME.
12:23:06 MR. REDDICK, I AM GOING TO DONATE THIS TO YOU.
12:23:10 I GIVE IT TO YOU IN HONOR OF BEING CHAIRMAN.
12:23:12 AND THAT'S MY GIFT TO YOU, SIR.
12:23:14 I BOUGHT THAT ROOSTER, AND I SAW SOME OTHER ROOSTERS I WAS
12:23:18 LOOKING AT AND I TRADE TO BUY ONE FOR EVERYONE BUT I DIDN'T
12:23:21 RUN OUT OF MONEY, I RAN OUT OF TIME.

12:23:23 BUT I AM GOING TO TRY TO FIND A ROOSTER FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE
12:23:26 I HAVE GOT MORE E-MAILS ON ROOSTERS LATELY THAN ANYTHING
12:23:29 ELSE IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
12:23:32 SO PEDRO DOESN'T DO MUCH BUT HE LOOKS AT YOU AND BLINKS ONCE
12:23:38 IN A WHILE.
12:23:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:23:43 LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
12:23:53 I UNDERSTAND THE EXPENSES THAT YOU SPOKE OF BY TRAP OARS AND
12:23:58 ALL OF THAT.
12:23:59 BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S SOME FARM LAND AREA, FARMERS,
12:24:14 THOSE WHO RAISE ROOSTERS, THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO, TO
12:24:20 REDUCE THAT POPULATION.
12:24:25 AND I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE THAT INSTEAD OF HOW ARE YOU
12:24:35 GOING TO GIVE A ROOSTER VERSUS A HEN AND REDUCE THE
12:24:43 POPULATION?
12:24:44 I'M LOOKING FOR -- (LAUGHTER).
12:24:51 >> I DON'T KNOW.
12:24:52 I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.
12:24:56 (LAUGHTER).
12:24:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. REDDICK, IF WE COULD PROCLAIM ONE
12:25:02 DAY A YEAR AS ROOSTER RELOCATION DAY, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE
12:25:06 COME IN, I'LL TEACH YOU HOW TO CATCH THEM.
12:25:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE
12:25:19 EXEMPTION, A SANCTUARY, OR I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF FOR
12:25:28 EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF FINDING INSTEAD OF TRAPPERS,

12:25:37 FIND SOME FARM LAND, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO RAISES OR HAS
12:25:45 ROOSTERS ON THEIR PROPERTY AS PART OF THEIR FARM AND REDUCE
12:25:51 THE POPULATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
12:25:59 AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE COULD REACH OUT AND EXPLORE THAT
12:26:06 POSSIBILITY.
12:26:15 ORLANDO OR OCALA, SOMEWHERE, THAT RAISES THE ROOSTER
12:26:22 POPULATION AND BE WILLING TO -- AND A TRAPPER, IT MIGHT BE
12:26:29 WORTH IT TO COME IN AND REDUCE THAT POPULATION OF SOME OF
12:26:32 THESE THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED.
12:26:36 SO I AM WILLING FOR US TO EXPLORE THOSE POSSIBILITIES.
12:26:38 >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
12:26:41 AND WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO SOMEBODY PUTTING A CAGE OUT
12:26:44 THERE TRYING TO ROUND UP THE CHICKENS -- OR ROOSTER.
12:26:49 YOU ARE NOT JUST GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO GRAB THEM
12:26:53 WITH YOUR HANDS.
12:26:54 THEY ARE TOO EVASIVE.
12:26:55 SO THAT PROCESS OF, EVEN THE GENTLEMAN THAT SAID THAT HE
12:27:00 COULD DO IT FOR 15,000, HE RELOCATES THEM TO A FARM, BUT HE
12:27:06 WANTS TO GET PAID FOR HIS TIME AND EFFORT OUT THERE.
12:27:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, IF HE WOULD RELOCATE THEM TO A FARM,
12:27:15 THEN WHY CAN'T WE REACH OUT TO THAT FARM LAND OWNER?
12:27:22 BECAUSE THERE'S A CERTAIN THING THAT THOSE WHO RAISE
12:27:24 ROOSTERS KNOW HOW TO ATTRACT ROOSTERS.
12:27:29 YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE GOT A SOUND IT MAKES THAT ROOSTER COME
12:27:34 IN, AND I DON'T WANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT HERE.

12:27:38 >> OH, WHY NOT?
12:27:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING ELSE.
12:27:46 (LAUGHTER)
12:27:46 BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS ON TV.
12:27:50 AND I THINK IF HE CATCHES THEM AND TAKES THEM TO THIS FARM,
12:27:55 THEN WE CAN EXPLORE THAT FARM OWNER WHO RAISE THESE
12:27:59 ROOSTERS, AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR HIM, OR HER, TO
12:28:06 ASSIST THE CITY IN REDUCING THE POPULATION.
12:28:08 >> YES, SIR, WE'LL CHECK IT OUT.
12:28:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: GO AHEAD.
12:28:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WOULD KNOW THIS.
12:28:18 89 ROOSTERS THAT WERE FOUND.
12:28:20 DO WE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF -- IT DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM
12:28:24 EXPLOSION BUT A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN ROOSTERS OVER THE
12:28:27 LAST TWO, FIVE YEARS, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE?
12:28:30 >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
12:28:32 WE DON'T GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE YBOR CITY AREA AS
12:28:36 FAR AS ROOSTERS.
12:28:38 SO I WOULDN'T HAVE THAT.
12:28:41 I JUST SEND SOMEBODY DOWN THERE TO TRY TO GET AN IDEA, YOU
12:28:44 KNOW, WHAT THE POPULATION WAS.
12:28:48 AND KIND OF FOCUS ON THAT AREA.
12:28:49 IT SEEMS TO BE WHERE THEY HANG OUT.
12:28:51 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK ON THIS ISSUE, I WAS MOVED BY THE
12:28:57 COMMUNITY WORDS THAT WERE SPOKEN ON THE LEGACY OF YBOR, THE

12:29:00 HISTORY OF YBOR, ROOSTERS, CHICKENS, ET CETERA.
12:29:03 AND I THINK BEFORE MOVING ON THIS, FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD
12:29:06 BE MORE THAN MINOR INCREMENTAL CHANGES, I WOULD WANT TO HEAR
12:29:11 FURTHER FROM THE COMMUNITY.
12:29:12 I DON'T KNOW IF A WORKSHOP IS TOO MUCH TO ASK ON AN ISSUE
12:29:16 LIKE. THIS BUT SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE FOR ME.
12:29:21 IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL ISSUE.
12:29:23 THANK YOU.
12:29:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: ROOSTERS DON'T TASTE AS GOOD AS CHICKENS.
12:29:33 AND I AM GOING TO GO BACK.
12:29:34 THEY CAME TO YBOR AS NUTRITION.
12:29:38 AND THAT'S WHAT KEPT THE POPULATION IN CHECK.
12:29:43 ONCE THIS WAS DONE, 89 ROOSTERS IN CENTENNIAL PARK AREA, IS
12:29:48 THAT WHAT --
12:29:49 >> YES, MA'AM.
12:29:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE REST OF THE AREA.
12:29:51 >> WE DIDN'T SURVEY.
12:29:53 WE JUST TRADE TO GET A REAL NUMBER FOR YOU SO I COULD COME
12:29:58 WITH KIND OF POPULATION.
12:30:00 WHEN WE WENT DOWN, WE SENT AN INSPECTOR, THAT'S WHERE THEY
12:30:06 CONGREGATE QUITE A BIT.
12:30:08 I HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW COME OUT OF THE PARKING GARAGE TOO
12:30:11 ON 7th AVENUE.
12:30:18 (LAUGHTER).
12:30:21 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.

12:30:21 YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY QUITE A SUBJECT.
12:30:25 AND TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS IS -- WE HAVE SOME ISSUES IN
12:30:30 THIS CITY THAT NEED WORKSHOP, AND THIS TO ME IS NOT ONE OF
12:30:34 THEM.
12:30:35 >> I AGREE.
12:30:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DO NOT AGREE ON A WORKSHOP ON THIS AT
12:30:38 ALL.
12:30:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
12:30:44 AND I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT LEGAL AND CODE PURSUE WHAT
12:30:57 OPTIONS, WHETHER THROUGH FARM LAND, FARM OWNERS, THEIR
12:31:07 RECOMMENDATION OF HOW WE CAN REDUCE THE POPULATION THAT
12:31:10 WOULD MINIMIZE THE COST, THEN HAVING GOT OUT.
12:31:16 I WANT TO SEE IT DONE IN A HUMANE WAY AND NOT TRAPPERS.
12:31:21 SO I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE THAT THROUGH THE
12:31:23 FARMERS, AND OTHER MECHANISMS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO REDUCE
12:31:31 THE POPULATION.
12:31:32 AND I AM GOING TO ASK THAT YOU ALL EXPLORE THAT, AND COME
12:31:36 BACK WITH YOUR FINDINGS ON JULY -- OUR REGULAR MEETING ON
12:31:42 JULY 19th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:31:44 >> I'LL SECOND.
12:31:46 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
12:31:52 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
12:31:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:31:55 ANY OPPOSED?
12:32:01 >> NAY.

12:32:01 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:32:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
12:32:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 82.
12:32:11 >> MOVE FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES.
12:32:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
12:32:23 SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:32:25 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:32:27 OPPOSED.
12:32:28 ITEM NUMBER 82.
12:32:29 >> GOOD AFTERNOON CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:32:35 JEAN DUNCAN WITH TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES
12:32:38 DEPARTMENT.
12:32:40 HERE TODAY ON ITEM 82 REGARDING TRAFFIC CONGESTION ISSUES IN
12:32:47 DOWNTOWN PARTIALLY PROMPTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR
12:32:50 JACKSON STREET CORRIDOR THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON.
12:32:54 I WILL START OFF BY SAYING WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH
12:32:57 SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE THEY'RE TODAY.
12:32:59 WE HAVE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVES, BANK OF
12:33:02 AMERICA REPRESENTATIVES, AND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
12:33:07 REPRESENTATIVE ALL HERE IN THE CHAMBERS TODAY.
12:33:12 WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS SINCE THE PROJECT STARTED,
12:33:16 GOING BACK TO MARCH, WITH LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS THAT
12:33:20 WERE GOING ON WITH TRAFFIC, SOME OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION
12:33:24 RELATED, TO TRY TO SEE WHAT SHORT-TERM ACTIONS WE COULD TAKE
12:33:28 TO ALLEVIATE.

12:33:30 ONE OF THE ISSUES WE ARE HAVING IS THE ACCESS OUT OF THE
12:33:33 BANK OF AMERICA PARKING GARAGE.
12:33:37 OUR MOST RECENT MEETING WAS YESTERDAY MORNING WITH
12:33:39 COUNCILMAN COHEN, AND HIS AIDE, AGAIN ALL THE SAKE
12:33:46 STAKEHOLDERS EXCEPT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REVISIT SOME OF
12:33:49 THE ISSUES THAT ARE OCCURRING, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE
12:33:52 BICYCLE LANE AND SOME OF THOSE WITH THE GARAGE ACCESS.
12:33:56 SO THIS IS AGAINST A BACKDROP AS WE KNOW OF A VISION FOR OUR
12:34:00 DOWNTOWN, THE LIVE, WORK, PLAY ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS
12:34:04 ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT.
12:34:06 IT'S ALSO AGAINST THE BACK DROP OF A TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
12:34:11 THAT HAS NOT HAD ANY TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGE SINCE IT WAS
12:34:15 BUILT IN THE 1950s.
12:34:17 SO THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO COME INTO PLAY,
12:34:21 LONG-TERM, IS TO REPURPOSE ASHLEY DRIVE.
12:34:26 ASHLEY AND KENNEDY IS WHERE ALL THE ACTION TAKES PLACE.
12:34:30 WHATEVER HAPPENS AT ASHLEY AND KENNEDY SO GOES THE DOWNTOWN
12:34:34 GRID.
12:34:35 SO UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS SUCH
12:34:39 AS THE TB ANNEX TO CHANGE THE TRAFFIC LOADING ONTO BE -- TB
12:34:46 NEXT WHICH CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE GRID WE ARE
12:34:52 LIMITED IN THE SOLUTIONS TO COME UP WITH, SO WE CAN TAKE
12:34:55 ADVANTAGE OF THAT TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THE TRAFFIC
12:35:00 AMONGST OUR GRID MORE THAN JUST USING CERTAIN NORTH-SOUTH
12:35:05 STREETS AND CERTAIN EAST-WEST STREETS.

12:35:09 UNTIL THAT COME K COME ALONG WE ARE LIMITED IN THE ACTIONS
12:35:11 THAT WE CAN TAKE.
12:35:12 SO WE ARE EXPAND OUR STREETCAR TO GET MORE TRANSIT AND
12:35:16 MULTIMODAL OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
12:35:17 WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TOO SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE
12:35:22 THE SAME NUMBER OF VEHICLES WANTING TO UTILIZE OUR DOWNTOWN
12:35:25 GRID.
12:35:27 WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY BACK IN 2012 TO SUPPORT
12:35:31 COMPLETE STREETS, AND THAT'S BEEN THE MANTRA OF THE CITY OF
12:35:35 TAMPA, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, HILLSBOROUGH
12:35:38 COUNTY, TO EVERY STREET PROJECT WE ARE DOING.
12:35:40 HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL MODES OF SUPPORTED AND ALL
12:35:44 MODES ARE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE? WE HAVE GOT TO TRY TO EVOLVE
12:35:48 SOME OF THE CAR-CENTRIC PROTOCOLS OF THE PAST AND THOSE
12:35:52 GROWING PAINS ARE VERY DIFFICULT.
12:35:53 WE DON'T WANT LIFE SAFETY ISSUES AS PART OF THAT SUCH AS NOT
12:35:57 GETTING OUT OF A GARAGE.
12:35:59 SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO COME UP WITH SOME SHORT-TERM,
12:36:03 MID-TERM SOLUTIONS.
12:36:04 WE FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A FEW THAT WE COULD GET WORKING ON
12:36:08 WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
12:36:12 WITH INPUT FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO TRY TO MINIMIZE
12:36:15 CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING.
12:36:17 AND I GUESS AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST LET THE
12:36:20 COUNCIL SPEAK ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT AND THEN WE CAN

12:36:23 BRING UP WHOMEVER YOU WOULD LIKE AT THE PODIUM TO FURTHER
12:36:27 THE CONVERSATION.
12:36:28 >>HARRY COHEN: A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
12:36:32 FIRST OF ALL WHEN WE MET YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK
12:36:35 ABOUT LIGHT SYNCHRONIZATION.
12:36:38 THERE WAS ALSO TALK ABOUT CHANGING SOME OF THE LANES, AND
12:36:42 WHETHER OR NOT THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION FOR -- USING THIS
12:36:49 AS AN EXAMPLE, OF TWO LANES GOING DOWN ASHLEY AND TURNING
12:36:52 LEFT ONTO JACKSON, WHETHER OR NOT COMING NORTH ON ASHLEY,
12:36:56 THE RIGHT-TURN ONLY LANE ON JACKSON AND ALL THESE THINGS
12:37:00 WERE BEING DISCUSSED.
12:37:03 THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BIKE LANES IN FRONT OF
12:37:06 THE LOADING DOCK AT THE BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING AND I
12:37:10 WANTED TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
12:37:12 BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
12:37:15 THE BUILDING LOADING DOCKS THAT DIVERTS THE TRUCKS BACKS
12:37:21 INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:37:22 THAT IS OUR FAULT.
12:37:23 WHEN I SAY OUR FAULT, I MEAN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHOEVER WAS
12:37:26 ON CITY COUNCIL WHENEVER THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1985,
12:37:31 THEY WAIVED THE BACKUP REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE LOADING DOCKS.
12:37:34 THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN BUILT THAT
12:37:36 WAY.
12:37:37 SO IT'S VERY, VERY UNREASONABLE, I THINK, TO LOOK AT AN
12:37:41 EXISTING CONDITION LIKE THAT AND EXPECT THAT THE BUILDING IS

12:37:44 SOMEHOW GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF A
12:37:47 SOLUTION OR TO SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BACK UP INTO
12:37:51 THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THE LAST 30
12:37:54 YEARS.
12:37:57 WHAT I AM MOST INTERESTED IN HEARING -- AND I HEARD THIS
12:38:00 YESTERDAY BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS REITERATED ON
12:38:03 THE RECORD TODAY -- IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A 45-DAY WINDOW
12:38:09 WITHIN WHICH THE CITY AND FDOT AND THE REPRESENTATIVES OF
12:38:13 SOME OF THE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT
12:38:15 THIS, THAT EVERYONE WAS GOING TO PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER
12:38:19 AND COME BACK IN FRONT OF US SOMETIME AT THE END OF JULY
12:38:23 WITH SOME SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS, AND SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
12:38:26 MIGHT BE RESTRIPING SOME STREETS AND LANES, AND IT ALSO
12:38:31 MIGHT BE CLOSING ACCESS TO CERTAIN STREETS THAT IS AVAILABLE
12:38:34 NOW.
12:38:35 FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU COME OVER THE PLATT STREET BRIDGE,
12:38:37 SHOULD YOU STILL BE ALLOWED TO MAKE A LEFT ONTO ASHLEY DRIVE
12:38:40 TO GO NORTH?
12:38:41 BECAUSE ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC IS FLOWING THROUGH THERE IS
12:38:45 DIRECTLY CONFLICTING WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO COME OUT OF BANK
12:38:48 OF AMERICA.
12:38:49 MAYBE THAT'S NOT DOABLE.
12:38:50 BUT WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE ACCESS POINT,
12:38:55 ANALYZE IT AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE
12:38:57 ALTERNATIVES, AND ONE ALTERNATIVE I KNOW IS THAT AS YOU ARE

12:39:02 COMING INTO DOWNTOWN FROM THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO
12:39:06 MAKE A LEFT ON ASHLEY, BUT IN MY OPINION YOU ARE MUCH BETTER
12:39:09 OFF TO MAKE A LEFT ON FLORIDA, MAKE A LEFT ON MORGAN, MAKE A
12:39:12 LEFT ON JEFFERSON, GO A LITTLE BIT THROUGH IN ORDER TO
12:39:16 TRAVERSE.
12:39:19 SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
12:39:22 AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN
12:39:25 VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED, NOT JUST PERSONALLY WITH MUCH THE
12:39:27 TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO WITH THE NUMBER OF BE COMPLAINTS,
12:39:33 CONCERNS, THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED FROM A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS
12:39:37 THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN.
12:39:38 SO I WANTED TO MENTION BEFORE EVERYONE SPEAKS THAT AT THE
12:39:41 END OF THIS, IT IS MY INTENTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE
12:39:44 THEM COME BACK WITH THIS 45-DAY UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE
12:39:50 DONE.
12:39:50 AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT SECRETARY GWEN, SECRETARY OF THE
12:39:54 DISTRICT OFFICE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, STATE DEPARTMENT OF
12:39:56 TRANSPORTATION, ATTENDED THE MEETING PERSONALLY YESTERDAY,
12:39:59 AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A GOOD SIGN THAT THIS IS BEING
12:40:04 TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF FDOT.
12:40:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME LAW FIRMS HERE BEFORE.
12:40:12 THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT I SEE HERE, I THINK, IS SOMETHING
12:40:14 THAT IS WELCOME AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THAT.
12:40:18 WE HAVE LAW FIRMS HERE.
12:40:19 I WAS DOING BASIC MATH AND YOU HAVE 50 LAWYERS BILLING OUT,

12:40:22 LOSING TWO HOURS A DAY, THAT'S $25,000 IN REVENUE LOST EVERY
12:40:26 DAY TO A BUSINESS, UNLESS MY MATH IS NOT THE BEST.
12:40:33 CHARLIE IS IN THE BEST POSITION HERE AT CITY COUNCIL.
12:40:35 BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF LOST REVENUE AT OUR BUSINESSES
12:40:38 SO I SALUTE COUNCILMAN COHEN AND EVERYONE WORKING ON THIS
12:40:44 ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH,
12:40:47 WITH A LOT OF URGENCY.
12:40:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DO NOT SEE AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION TO
12:40:51 THIS.
12:40:52 LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
12:40:54 THE BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH THAT HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET
12:40:57 OR RENTED OUT YET, YET THE BUILDING WHERE THE TAMPA TRIBUNE
12:41:04 WAS AT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED.
12:41:05 YOU HAVE THE BUILDING BEHIND THE THEATER HASN'T BEEN
12:41:07 COMPLETED.
12:41:08 YOU HAVE GOT THOUSANDS OF UNITS COMING UP THAT HAVEN'T BEEN
12:41:12 COMPLETED.
12:41:13 AND NOWHERE FOR THE TRAFFIC TO GO.
12:41:16 AND I'M NOT BLAME ANYONE.
12:41:19 BUT ONCE YOU DISRUPT THE TRAFFIC LIKE WE DID ON JACKSON, AND
12:41:22 THEN WE SAY, WELL, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE LANES.
12:41:25 WHY DO WE MAKE THE LANE?
12:41:28 WE DID THE OPPOSITE.
12:41:29 SO NOW THE TRAFFIC IS INTERRUPTED COMING OUT OF HERE IT'S
12:41:33 DANGEROUS.

12:41:34 NOT ONLY FOR US BUT WHOEVER IS ON THE OTHER LANE.
12:41:38 SO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM AND THE ANXIETY THAT I SEE IN THE
12:41:42 PEOPLE ON KENNEDY AND ASHLEY AND ON JACKSON AND ASHLEY, IT
12:41:47 LIKE BUMPER CARS.
12:41:48 THEY WERE WITHIN INCHES OF EACH OTHER AND THE CARS IN ALL
12:41:51 DIRECTIONS STOP ONE WAY, THEY CAN'T MOVE AND THE LIGHT
12:41:53 CHANGES AND YOU HAVE A RED LIGHT WAITING.
12:41:56 WHAT DO YOU DO YOU? DON'T MOVE.
12:41:59 DOWN THE LANE FIVE OR SIX BLOCKS, ONE SCHOOL UP THERE, AND
12:42:03 THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS GONE.
12:42:06 AND THEN YOU HAVE YOU HAVE MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC COME NORTH
12:42:09 ON ASHLEY.
12:42:11 NOWHERE TO GO.
12:42:14 YOU HAVE GOT THE HOTEL WHEN THE PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT,
12:42:17 CHECK IN AND OUT, NO WHERE TO GO.
12:42:19 WE CREATE A FUNNEL.
12:42:22 IT CAN'T CARRY ANYMORE.
12:42:24 AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY
12:42:27 SAYS.
12:42:27 I'M SAYING IT TODAY.
12:42:28 IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.
12:42:29 NO MATTER IF YOU STRIPE, NO MATTER IF YOU DON'T STRIPE, NO
12:42:32 MATTER IF THE STREETCAR TAKES BUILT IF YOU GET IT BUILT AND
12:42:36 YOU AIN'T GOT NO MONEY TO BUILD IT.
12:42:39 SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE?

12:42:46 MIDTOWN PROJECT.
12:42:47 I DON'T WANT THE SAME THING TO HAPPEN TO THEM THAT HAPPENED
12:42:50 HERE.
12:42:50 I LEARNED.
12:42:51 THANK YOU.
12:42:51 >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO MR. MIRANDA AND
12:43:02 SAY THAT WE STILL HAVE TO TRY.
12:43:04 WE STILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
12:43:06 AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
12:43:08 WE MAY ONLY BE ABLE TO HELP 10 PERCENT OF THE PROBLEM.
12:43:13 OR 15% OF THE PROBLEM.
12:43:14 BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN.
12:43:18 THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASILY
12:43:22 SOLVED.
12:43:24 BUT WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER.
12:43:26 WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER AND WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SOME
12:43:29 IMPROVEMENTS.
12:43:30 EVEN IF THEY ARE SHORT-TERM AND WE HAVE GOT TO AT LEAST ASK
12:43:34 EVERYBODY TO PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND TRY TO DO WHAT
12:43:37 THEY CAN DO TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS.
12:43:41 I SHARE YOUR SKEPTICISM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
12:43:45 SOLVE IT.
12:43:46 BUT IT REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THE OTHER PROBLEMS
12:43:49 THAT WE FACE, IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF 20% OF IT OR 25% OF IT,
12:43:53 MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT MANAGEABLE.

12:43:55 >>JEAN DUNCAN: IF I CAN COMMENT, COUNCILMAN COHEN.
12:44:00 THIS JACKSON STREET PROJECT DID NOT REDUCE THE CAPACITY OF
12:44:02 THE ROADWAY.
12:44:04 AND I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE OUR EFFORTS OF PROVIDING SAFER
12:44:11 MODES ON OUR STREETS.
12:44:13 COMPLETE STREETS, THAT PHILOSOPHY OF ACCOUNTING FOR THE
12:44:16 OTHER MODES THAT WE HAVE, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY COME AT
12:44:19 THE EXPENSE OF ELIMINATING CAPACITY FOR THE VEHICLES.
12:44:23 WE WANT TO KEEP ALL OF THE VEHICLE CAPACITY WE CAN IN THE
12:44:26 DOWNTOWN.
12:44:27 WE REALIZE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE WANT TO EVOLVE SOMEWHAT AS A
12:44:31 MULTIMODAL CULTURE AND HAVE OTHER WAYS TO GET AROUND BESIDES
12:44:35 VEHICLES, THE REALITY IS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE USING
12:44:38 THEIR VEHICLES.
12:44:39 AND WE ARE NOT BLIND TO THAT FACT.
12:44:42 SO THIS PROJECT THAT WAS DONE ON JACKSON STREET TOOK THE
12:44:47 PARKING THAT WAS ON THE ROAD, THE INTERSECTION CONFIGURATION
12:44:50 WHICH IS WHERE THE CAPACITY IS, AT THE INTERSECTION THAT HAS
12:44:56 REMAINED THE SAME AND WILL WE ARE NOT REDUCING THAT IN ANY
12:44:58 WAY.
12:44:59 AND WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO SEE HOW CAN WE ADJUST THAT
12:45:02 CAPACITY TO GET EVEN BETTER OUTFLOW FOR THE PARKING GARAGE
12:45:07 TO GET OPPORTUNITY TO EXIT WHEN THEY HAVE THAT DEMAND.
12:45:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:45:15 THE BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING, IS YOUR TRAFFIC PROBLEM GET

12:45:20 WORSE WHEN THIS WORK WAS STARTED OR AFTER IT STARTED, WHEN
12:45:24 IT'S COMPLETED NOW?
12:45:26 >>JEAN DUNCAN: IT ACTUALLY STARTED BEFORE THE-
12:45:29 >> STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
12:45:30 >> MARILYN.
12:45:32 IT ACTUALLY STARTED BEFORE THEY STARTED DOING THE
12:45:35 RESURFACING.
12:45:37 AND AS YOU WERE SAYING THIS, WE HAVE THESE OTHER
12:45:40 DEVELOPMENTS COME ON LINE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME -- I'M
12:45:48 TRYING TO THINK OF A POLITICALLY CORRECT WAY OF SAYING THIS.
12:45:51 WE HAVE TO PUT OUR AGENCY -- BEEF SOME REAL TALENT BOTH ON
12:46:00 YOUR STAFF AND D.O.T., AND THE OTHER TRAFFIC EVENING NEARS
12:46:04 THAT I AM SURE ARE GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS, THAT MAYBE
12:46:06 WE CAN REACH SOME ACCOMMODATION BE, YOU KNOW.
12:46:11 THE CAPACITY DIDN'T GO DOWN BUT THE LANES SURE WENT DOWN.
12:46:15 AND THAT IS GOING TO STAY REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE CAN GET
12:46:19 IN AND OUT OF OUR PARKING GARAGE.
12:46:21 AND SO THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY, BECAUSE I AM NOT GIVING UP
12:46:27 EITHER. THIS IS OUR CITY.
12:46:28 AND IT'S A GREAT CITY.
12:46:29 AND WE NEED TO KEEP THAT THE WAY.
12:46:32 THERE'S JUST GOT TO BE A WAY.
12:46:34 AND THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM D.O.T. AT THAT MEETING, THEY
12:46:38 ARE HERE NOW, COMMITTED THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH US AND I AM
12:46:41 VERY HOPEFUL THAT THEY WILL DO THAT.

12:46:42 BUT IT CAN'T BE, OH, IN TWO AND THREE YEARS, AND THIS COMES
12:46:47 UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE IN A GUARANTEES OF THAT.
12:46:50 WE CAN'T EVEN GET A COUNTYWIDE INITIATIVE ON TRANSPORTATION.
12:46:54 SO AS GOOD AS WE THINK WE ARE, WE HAVE TWO YEARS, WE ARE
12:47:00 PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE THIS.
12:47:02 WE ARE PROBABLY NOT.
12:47:03 SO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH -- KEEP IT AS GREAT AS WHAT YOU GUYS
12:47:09 HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR YEARS.
12:47:10 >>HARRY COHEN: IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
12:47:14 A MOTION THAT THIS COMES BACK AS A STAFF REPORT, THAT WE
12:47:18 CAN -- I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT JULY 19th IF THAT'S
12:47:22 POSSIBLE UNDER STAFF REPORT.
12:47:23 >> SECOND.
12:47:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
12:47:26 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:47:30 FOR A REPORT TO BE DUE ON JULY 19th.
12:47:35 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:47:36 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
12:47:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?
12:47:38 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:47:40 OPPOSED?
12:47:41 ALL RIGHT.
12:47:43 SEE YOU ON THE 19th OF JULY.
12:47:46 NUMBER 83.
12:47:47 .

12:47:53 >>JEAN DUNCAN: TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.
12:47:58 YOU HAD ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR HIMES AVENUE
12:48:02 PROJECT.
12:48:02 I HAVE GOT THE FACT SHEET HERE IF YOU DON'T MANED ME HANDING
12:48:05 THAT OUT, A TWO-PAGER.
12:48:21 THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
12:48:28 IT'S A LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM PROJECT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
12:48:31 TRANSPORTATION.
12:48:32 YOU HAVE ALL HEARD RECENTLY ABOUT ACCIDENTS THAT ARE
12:48:34 OCCURRING ON OUR ROADWAYS, HOW UNSAFE OUR STREETS ARE.
12:48:39 HIMES AVENUE IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE CRASH LOCATIONS THAT WE
12:48:42 HAVE.
12:48:45 34th STREET AND THE HYDE PARK PLANT REPAIR AND WE HAVE
12:48:53 REPAIR PROJECTS ON ALL THREE LOCATIONS GOING ON.
12:48:57 THIS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
12:49:00 BEFORE WE STARTED THE PROJECT, I'M SURE YOU ARE WELL AWARE,
12:49:03 WE HAD A WIDE SLOTH OF ASPHALT, WIDE TRAVEL LANES, NO
12:49:07 MEDIANS.
12:49:10 WHEN VEHICLES ARE EXPERIENCING WIDE AMOUNTS OF ASPHALT
12:49:14 WITHOUT MUCH DIRECTIONAL INFORMATION ON THEM THE TENDENCY IS
12:49:17 TO SPEED AND GO VERY FAST.
12:49:19 SO A LOT OF ACCIDENTS ON THIS ROADWAY.
12:49:23 SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME SAFETY MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT
12:49:26 OF TRANSPORTATION.
12:49:28 WE HAVE HAD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS BEFORE WE WENT TO

12:49:31 CONSTRUCTION TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON THE PROJECT.
12:49:36 AND BASICALLY THE PROJECT IS PUTTING IN MEDIANS, TRAFFIC
12:49:41 SEPARATORS, CHANNELIZING THE TRAFFIC, SO THAT IT IS
12:49:46 NEGOTIATING ITS WAY THROUGH THE AREA IN A MUCH SAFER WAY.
12:49:50 THIS CORRIDOR JUST LIKE OTHER ONES THAT WE ARE DOING ON
12:49:53 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND 40th STREET, WE HAVE A STRATEGIC
12:49:56 PLAN BE TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CITY, ARTERIALS AND COLLECTORS
12:50:02 THAT ARE 40 MILES AN HOUR AND MORE, AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN
12:50:06 IS TO LOOK AT THOSE CORRIDORS AND SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE
12:50:09 MODIFICATIONS TO REDUCE THIS DOWN TO 35 MILES PER HOUR.
12:50:13 WE HAVE ROADWAYS IN OUR CITY THAT WERE DESIGNED YEARS AND
12:50:16 YEARS AGO THAT DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
12:50:20 AND THIS APPROACH THAT WE ARE TAKING IS ALLOWING FOR THE
12:50:23 CAPACITY TO BE REMAIN, BUT TO PROVIDE MORE SAFETY FOR THE
12:50:28 ROADWAY BY REDUCING TRAFFIC CALMING.
12:50:31 SO THAT'S THE KIND OF QUICK SUMMARY.
12:50:35 THE PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
12:50:36 IT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
12:50:39 AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING A MUCH SAFER
12:50:42 CORRIDOR.
12:50:43 OUR PARKS FOLKS ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME
12:50:47 LANDSCAPING OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT SOME LANDSCAPING IN THE
12:50:50 GRASS MEDIANS THAT WE ARE CREATING TO ADD MORE AESTHETIC
12:50:53 APPEAL AND ALSO MORE TRAFFIC CALMING TO THE ROADWAY AS WELL.
12:50:58 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THAT

12:51:00 PROJECT.
12:51:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
12:51:12 WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS.
12:51:13 AND I ASKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BETWEEN KENNEDY AND
12:51:17 COLUMBUS DRIVE.
12:51:18 WHAT HAVE YOU GOT ON THAT?
12:51:19 >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS?
12:51:23 OBVIOUSLY, THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE GOING TO REMAIN WITH
12:51:25 THIS PROJECT.
12:51:27 EACH SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION WILL HAVE PEDESTRIAN UPGRADES
12:51:30 THAT COME WITH THE PROJECT SUCH AS ADA RAMP UPGRADE,
12:51:34 CROSSWALKS.
12:51:35 WE ARE ALSO INSTALLING THREE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATED SIGNALS
12:51:39 WHICH WE CALL RRFDs, RAPID REFLECTIVE FLASHING BEACONS,
12:51:48 INSTALLING THREE OF THOSE ALONG THE CORRIDOR SO FOLKS HAVE
12:51:51 MORE OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS THE ROADWAY SAFELY BY PUSHING AN
12:51:55 ACTIVATED PEDESTRIAN BEACON SO THAT THEY CAN CROSS.
12:51:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND WE ARE ADDING SIGNALS BESIDES THE ONES
12:52:01 THAT ARE THERE ALREADY.
12:52:02 HOW MANY ARE WE ADDING?
12:52:04 >>JEAN DUNCAN: THERE IS ONE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT I AM AWARE
12:52:06 OF.
12:52:07 MELANIE CALLOWAY CAN TALK ON THAT MORE.
12:52:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: ARE THEY SYNCHRONIZED?
12:52:15 >>JEAN DUNCAN: ANY NEW SIGNAL THAT'S ADDED TO THAT SYSTEM

12:52:18 WILL BECOME PART OF THAT NETWORK AND WILL BE SYNCHRONIZED
12:52:21 WITH THE OTHER SIGNALS THAT ARE THERE.
12:52:22 >>YVONNE CAPIN: COME UP AND TELL US ABOUT THE SIGNALS.
12:52:28 THANK YOU.
12:52:28 >> MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
12:52:31 THERE WAS A PROPOSED SIGNAL GOING TO BE ON CYPRESS BETWEEN
12:52:34 DALE MABRY AND HIMES FOR THE PROJECT, THE NEW PROJECT,
12:52:38 MIDTOWN.
12:52:39 AND THERE WAS ONE ALSO PROPOSED.
12:52:43 ALL THE STREETS WERE VACATED DUE TO THAT PROJECT.
12:52:45 SO ONE IS NOT -- THAT WAS VACATED.
12:52:52 IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER NORTH THAN THAT.
12:52:54 BUT THAT'S --
12:52:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S ON HIMES.
12:52:59 >> YES.
12:53:00 SO THAT WILL BE NORTH OF THE CYPRESS SIGNAL.
12:53:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. THIS WHOLE
12:53:07 CORRIDOR IS ONE AND A HALF MILES, RIGHT?
12:53:10 AND WE ARE PUTTING IN THREE TRAFFIC SIGNALS BETWEEN CYPRESS
12:53:17 AND THE INTERSTATE, WHICH IS -- WE HAVE ONE AT CYPRESS, AND
12:53:25 PROPOSED ONE ON NASSAU AND THEN THE ONE THAT'S THERE NOW.
12:53:30 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THAT'S CORRECT.
12:53:30 BECAUSE THAT PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR ALL THOSE
12:53:33 ENTITLEMENTS IS GOING TO NEED SOME WAY TO GET OUT OF THOSE
12:53:35 PROPERTIES.

12:53:36 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION.
12:53:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND THEN WE HAVE THREE ON CYPRESS FROM DALE
12:53:49 MABRY TO HIMES.
12:53:51 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES.
12:53:52 I'M NOT SURE YOU REMEMBER THE PROJECT.
12:53:53 THAT WAS LIKE THE MAIN STREET, THE PRIVATE STREET, THEIR
12:54:00 MAIN GATEWAY INTO THEIR PROJECT.
12:54:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
12:54:05 WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ALONG DALE MABRY, AND
12:54:09 THEY DO NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN
12:54:13 AND OUT.
12:54:14 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THIS PROPERTY IS 30 ACRES?
12:54:18 IT'S A VERY LARGE SITE AND WITH A LOT OF ENTITLEMENT.
12:54:22 THAT'S THE REASON WHY THESE SIGNALS WERE PROPOSED.
12:54:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: BUT, MY GOD, THAT'S GOING TO -- THAT'S BEEN
12:54:31 AN ISSUE WITH ME FROM THE VERY BEGINNING ON THOSE SIGNALS.
12:54:37 AND THESE THREE LIGHTS, ALL OF THESE ON CYPRESS AND ON
12:54:41 HIMES, THEY ARE ALL SYNCHRONIZED.
12:54:43 THEY WILL ALL BE GREEN AT THE SAME TIME.
12:54:45 THEY WILL ALL BE RED AT THE SAME TIME?
12:54:48 >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ALL RED AT THE SAME TIME BUT
12:54:50 THEY WILL BE SYNCHRONIZED.
12:54:52 >> IT'S NOT GOOD ON THE RED.
12:54:56 >>JEAN DUNCAN: ANY TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY
12:55:00 A DEVELOPER OR ANYONE HAS TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.

12:55:04 WE FOLLOW VERY STRINGENT CRITERIA FOR DECIDING TO APPROVE A
12:55:08 TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
12:55:09 SO ANY SIGNALS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER WILL
12:55:12 HAVE TO MEET THAT CRITERIA, AND CITY STAFF ENSURES THAT THAT
12:55:16 CRITERIA IS MET.
12:55:17 AND IT'S --
12:55:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: CITY STAFF HAS ALREADY ENSURED THE CRITERIA
12:55:22 IS MET?
12:55:23 >>JEAN DUNCAN: AS WE REVIEW ANY PROPOSALS FOR A SIGNAL, WE
12:55:27 ARE ENSURING THAT IT MEETS BE THAT LITMUS TEST.
12:55:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: ON THIS PROJECT.
12:55:32 >>JEAN DUNCAN: FOR ALL PROJECTS.
12:55:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: FOR THIS PROJECT IT'S ALREADY BEEN MET?
12:55:36 IT'S ALREADY A DONE DEAL?
12:55:39 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: I BELIEVE THEY HAVE DONE A PRELIMINARY
12:55:41 SIGNAL WARRANT TO SEE IF IT WAS WARRANTED FOR THIS PROJECT.
12:55:44 AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE FIGURED THAT, YES, IT DOES MEET
12:55:48 THAT WARRANT.
12:55:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHO IS THEY?
12:55:51 US?
12:55:52 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THE DEVELOPER DOES A STUDY TO MAKE SURE
12:55:54 IT MEETS THE WARRANT AND THAT IT IS REVIEWED BY
12:55:56 TRANSPORTATION.
12:55:56 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND TRANSPORTATION HAS AGREED THAT IT IS?
12:56:02 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: I BELIEVE SO.

12:56:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
12:56:12 IT'S BEYOND WORDS.
12:56:13 IT BEYOND WORDS WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE.
12:56:18 IT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE.
12:56:20 WE ARE TALKING A MILE AND A HALF.
12:56:22 SO YOU ARE TALKING THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE.
12:56:26 NOT EVEN THAT.
12:56:28 THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
12:56:35 WHEN THEY CONSIDER THIS -- LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
12:56:37 WHEN THIS IS CONSIDERED, ARE ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS
12:56:40 CONSIDERED THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE STREET?
12:56:47 >> YES.
12:56:48 THEY ARE ALL CONSIDERED.
12:56:49 THEY DO EXACTLY THE VOLUMES ON THE ROADWAYS.
12:56:50 THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE PROPOSED VOLUMES OF THE
12:56:54 PROJECT AS WELL AS THE SIGNALS THAT ARE LOCATED ALREADY
12:56:58 EXISTING TODAY.
12:56:59 YES.
12:56:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
12:57:05 I WILL NOT BE DRIVING HIMES OR CYPRESS.
12:57:09 I CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING.
12:57:11 IT IS NOT A GOOD PLAN AT ALL.
12:57:15 OKAY.
12:57:15 >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT ALL OF
12:57:22 THESE THINGS ARE MELDING TOGETHER.

12:57:23 THERE'S A THEME HERE.
12:57:25 WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NEW TAMPA IN THE LAST ITEM HAS TO
12:57:28 DO WITH THE CONGESTION UP THERE.
12:57:30 AND I THINK THAT WHILE -- I THINK WE NEED SOME STANDARD.
12:57:39 YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING --
12:57:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: COMMON SENSE.
12:57:42 >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I WAS THINKING MacDILL FROM EUCLID
12:57:46 AND EL PRADO THERE ARE A FEW LIGHTS THAT ARE RELATIVELY
12:57:50 CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER HOW ONE BACKS UP AND THEN THE OTHER
12:57:53 BACKS UP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A BACKUP GOING ALL THE
12:57:55 WAY DOWN THE STREET.
12:57:57 AND WE ARE RAPIDLY MOVING TOWARDS THIS POINT.
12:58:02 AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT THE MPO THE OTHER DAY WITH SOME
12:58:06 OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
12:58:09 WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT IS BEING ENVISIONED IN
12:58:13 TERMS OF DENSITY IS RUNNING DIRECTLY INTO THE REALITY OF
12:58:18 LIGHTS ON THE STREETS, AND THE MORE AND MORE THAT THAT GETS
12:58:23 BUILT, AND THE MORE AND MORE THAT GETS TITLED THE WORSE IT'S
12:58:29 GOING TO GET AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ENCOURAGING ALL
12:58:32 OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE VOTING FOR AND THE
12:58:36 INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST NOT KEEPING UP WITH IT.
12:58:39 AND IT IS BECOMING AN UNTENABLE SITUATION.
12:58:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE ARE TRYING TO FIT IT N.WE ARE FITTING
12:58:49 IN, LIKE SHOVING IT IN THERE WHEN IT'S NOT READY.
12:58:54 WE DON'T HAVE THE --

12:58:57 >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, IT CRIES OUT FOR A TRANSIT SOLUTION,
12:59:00 IT CRIES OUT FOR SOMETHING THAN JUST CARS AND THE RUBBER IS
12:59:03 MEETING THE ROAD, AND THE YEARS OF DELAY ARE CATCHING UP
12:59:06 WITH US.
12:59:07 >>JEAN DUNCAN: IF I COULD ADD ANOTHER COMPONENT.
12:59:11 TAMPA IS WHAT'S CALLED A TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY
12:59:16 EXCEPTION AREA BUT BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAWS, THE STRINGENT
12:59:19 LAWS THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE
12:59:23 ANY DEVELOPMENT TO PUT IN EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE
12:59:27 PRECEDING, OR DURING THE PROJECT.
12:59:32 THEY HAVE GOT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR SITE.
12:59:35 AND THERE'S A FEW OTHER LITTLE LAYERS OF MITIGATION THAT WE
12:59:38 CAN GET WHICH MELANIE IS VERY GOOD AT DOING, I HAVE TO SAY.
12:59:43 AND THAT'S ALL WE CAN GET IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPER
12:59:46 CONTRIBUTION TO OUR SYSTEM, OF MULTI-MOD ALE IMPACT FEES,
12:59:51 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED IN 30
12:59:54 YEARS.
12:59:54 SO YOU ARE RIGHT.
12:59:55 THERE'S OTHER DYNAMICS GOING ON THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING AND WE
12:59:58 ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE TOOLS WE HAVE TO MAKE
01:00:01 RESPONSIBLE APPROVALS AND ACCEPTANCE OF THINGS, BUT IT'S A
01:00:07 VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION.
01:00:08 AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT, COUNCILMAN COHEN.
01:00:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT'S CHALLENGING.
01:00:15 YOU CANNOT REQUIRE THEM TO MITIGATE.

01:00:18 IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD?
01:00:19 >>JEAN DUNCAN: THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN ASK.
01:00:24 BUT IN THE OLD DAYS, I'LL CALL IT, DEVELOPERS WERE REQUIRED
01:00:29 TO DO A LOT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE THEY
01:00:33 COULD GET THEIR DEVELOPMENTS APPROVED.
01:00:35 THOSE DAYS ARE GONE.
01:00:37 THAT'S A SIMPLE WAY TO SAY IT.
01:00:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA.
01:00:43 >>LUIS VIERA: I ECHO COUNCILMAN COHEN'S STATEMENTS TO USE A
01:00:47 TERM FROM SOMETHING WE JUST DISCUSSED, THE CHICKENS ARE
01:00:50 REALLY COMING HOME TO ROOST ON THIS ISSUE.
01:00:52 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
01:00:53 IT REALLY IS.
01:00:53 IN 2010 WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRANSIT HERE IN TAMPA.
01:00:57 IN 2016, WE DIDN'T EVEN GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON SOME
01:01:01 SORT OF MASSIVE ROBUST TRANSIT INVESTMENT HERE IN TAMPA AND
01:01:05 NOW WE ARE SEEING CONTINUOUSLY THE RESULTS OF IT.
01:01:08 AND I AM REMINDED OF THAT SAYING IF YOU REMEMBER FROM SUNDAY
01:01:11 SCHOOL, HEBREW SCHOOL FROM THE BOOK OF GENESIS, OR EXODUS,
01:01:15 YOU CAN'T MAKE BRICKS WITHOUT STRAW.
01:01:18 REMEMBER THAT?
01:01:18 AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE BRICKS -- WE ARE TRYING TO
01:01:22 CONTINUE TO DEVELOP WITHOUT HAVING THE STRAW OF MASS TRANSIT
01:01:25 INVESTMENTS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
01:01:27 AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT HERE TODAY.

01:01:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE?
01:01:34 ALL RIGHT.
01:01:35 ITEM NUMBER 84.
01:01:54 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
01:01:58 I'M HERE TO GO OVER THE WESLEY CHAPEL STUDY.
01:02:03 SO WESLEY CHAPEL AREA DID A STUDY, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:02:15 PART OF IT WAS IN PASCO COUNTY.
01:02:19 THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET.
01:02:22 THIS IS OUR TIME LINE ON HOW THEY VIEW THE SCHEDULE.
01:02:27 THIS HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IN MAY,
01:02:33 THAT'S JUST THE STUDY ITSELF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:02:35 OR SOMETHING IS WRONG IN THE STUDY ITSELF.
01:02:37 BUT THE PUBLIC OPINION POLL IS COMING AUGUST-SEPTEMBER, AND
01:02:44 WANT CONNECTIONS IN NEW TAMPA.
01:02:53 APRIL 18 OF 2017, ASKED IF THEY WOULD LIKE CONNECTIONS.
01:03:01 WE WENT THROUGH A PRESENTATION THE OTHER WEEK, AND STATED
01:03:04 THERE WAS A 50-50 SPLIT ON MAN'S FIELD.
01:03:10 IT IS A 50-50 SPLIT OF PASCO PEOPLE.
01:03:13 BUT IF YOU SEE HILLSBOROUGH AND BOTH COUNTIES COMBINED THE
01:03:17 OVERWHELMING MAJORITY WANT [RUSTLING PAPERS] INCLUDING THE
01:03:22 CITY.
01:03:23 AND YOU SEE HERE WHY THEY WERE FOR AND AGAINST THEM.
01:03:28 YOU CAN SEE -- [RUSTLING PAPERS]
01:03:37 WELL, PART OF THE STUDY WAS ACTUALLY VERY GOOD THAT THEY
01:03:40 ACTUAL THE SCHOOL LOCATED ON MANSFIELD AND THEY SAID, BASIC

01:03:46 IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED GOING FULL STEAM AHEAD ON MAKING THE
01:03:49 IMPROVEMENTS.
01:03:50 SO THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THEY HAVE KIND OF TAKEN THAT OFF OF
01:03:53 THAT, THERE WERE SAFETY CONCERNS BUT THEY ARE DOING THOSE
01:03:57 RIGHT NOW.
01:04:00 THE NEXT TWO PIECES I GAVE YOU WERE WHERE ENTITLEMENTS WERE
01:04:06 APPROVED.
01:04:06 SO ON THESE PAGES WERE ENTITLEMENTS, THEY TOOK IN MORE.
01:04:15 BUT PASCO COUNTY ALONE HAS 21,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS
01:04:21 APPROVED.
01:04:23 K BAR, WHICH A PORTION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED OR BUILT,
01:04:29 HAS 3,200.
01:04:32 YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A BIT OF A DIFFERENCE.
01:04:36 THERE'S NOT MUCH LAND LEFT IN THE CITY TO DEVELOP.
01:04:39 WE DO HAVE SOME PARCELS BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH K BAR.
01:04:45 SO YOU CAN SEE THAT PASCO HAS A LOT MORE UNITS.
01:04:48 WHAT THEY DID IN THEIR STUDY IS THEY DECIDED LET'S GO LOOK
01:04:52 AT EVERYTHING WHEN THEY DID THE CONNECTIONS AND SAID, OKAY,
01:04:56 WE HAVE FOUND THAT EVEN WITHOUT CONNECTIONS, WE NEED $15
01:05:01 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS.
01:05:02 THOSE ONE CONNECTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF UNITS
01:05:08 APPROVED UP THERE.
01:05:11 IN 2011, THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A BILL HOUSE BILL
01:05:15 7207.
01:05:18 CONCURRENCY.

01:05:19 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
01:05:20 WELL, WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THE DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN, AND IF
01:05:24 THEY NEEDED TO PUT IN A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, A TURN LANE, WITH
01:05:30 ONE ADDITIONAL TRIP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO -- THAT WAS CON
01:05:35 CURREN I ASK THAT HAD TO BRING IT UP TO OUR ACCESSIBLE LEVEL
01:05:38 OF SERVICE.
01:05:38 WHAT THIS BILL DID WAS GET RID OF CONCURRENCY.
01:05:42 WHAT THAT MEANS IS BE WHEN THEY DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THEY
01:05:44 ACT LIKE EVERYTHING IS PERFECT.
01:05:49 DISREGARD IT.
01:05:50 IT'S NOT THERE.
01:05:51 EVERYTHING IS RUNNING PERFECTLY.
01:05:52 AND THEN PUT YOUR TRAFFIC ON TOP OF IT AND SEE IF WE NEED TO
01:05:55 BE DO AN IMPROVEMENT.
01:05:57 OH, AND YOU NEEDED A RIGHT TURN LANE?
01:05:59 WELL, YOU FIRST PAY YOUR PROPORTIONAL FAIR SHARE SO YOU PUT
01:06:03 THREE ADDITIONAL TRIPS ON IT, YOU PAY $3 THAT YOU.
01:06:08 THEY WOULD SAY, OKAY, YOUR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE IS
01:06:12 3,000.
01:06:14 SO YOU CAN SEE WE ARE GETTING PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR FOR
01:06:17 THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
01:06:19 THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS.
01:06:20 SO THIS AREA, NEW TAMPA AREA SPECIFICALLY, HAS IN A
01:06:25 CONCURRENCY.
01:06:27 AS YOU KNOW, PASCO COUNTY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, HAS RAISED

01:06:30 THEIR IMPACT FEES QUITE A BIT.
01:06:32 AND THIS IS WHY.
01:06:34 THEY NEED A WAY IN WHICH THEY CAN PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
01:06:41 SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 MILLION
01:06:43 AND 13 MILLION, STILL NEEDS 13 MILLION NEEDED IF
01:06:49 IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE.
01:06:50 1.9 MILLION OF IT IS A CONNECTION ISSUE.
01:06:54 I DON'T WANT TO SAY ISSUE, BUT CONNECTING MANSFIELD AND
01:07:01 KINNAN.
01:07:02 AND MANSFIELD AT MEADOW POINT TOGETHER.
01:07:07 WE HAVE A K BAR AGREEMENT THAT THEY ARE TO MAKE THE TENANTS,
01:07:10 AND ANOTHER POINT CONNECTION AT THE SAME TIME.
01:07:14 WE DID THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED IF YOU ONLY
01:07:16 CONNECTED KINNAN, WE FIGURED THAT -- KINNAN, FOR THE
01:07:24 DEVELOPER TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME TO
01:07:26 DISTRIBUTE TRAFFIC.
01:07:28 SO WE DISTRIBUTE THE TRAFFIC.
01:07:31 THE OTHER ONE IS MEADOW POINT.
01:07:33 AND I GAVE YOU A MAP WHERE THAT'S LOCATED.
01:07:47 THIS IS ALL THE CONNECTIONS.
01:07:54 THE WAY IT WORKS, DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY BUILD SOME
01:07:57 UNITS AND THEN THEY BUILD A PORTION OF THE ROAD.
01:08:07 THEY PUT SOME ADDITIONAL TRIPS ON IT.
01:08:08 THEY BUILD THE ROAD.
01:08:10 THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

01:08:11 SO WHEN THEY MAKE CONNECTIONS, THESE ARE REQUIRED AT THE
01:08:15 SAME TIME.
01:08:17 MANSFIELD CONNECTION, THE CONNECTION THAT FOLLOWS WITH THE
01:08:19 REZONING, AT THE MEETING THAT WAS CONTINUE ADD COUPLE OF
01:08:24 WEEKS AGO.
01:08:25 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THESE K-BAR RANCH PARKWAY
01:08:29 COMPLETED.
01:08:29 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:08:31 I WANT TO CAUTION THAT WE SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT THE
01:08:33 CONTINUED REZONING OUTSIDE OF THE NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING.
01:08:35 THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE OF AN OVERALL STATUS OF THE NEW
01:08:40 TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, PASCO COUNTY CONNECTION.
01:08:42 >>HARRY COHEN: YOU SAID THE YEAR 2040.
01:08:49 >> YES.
01:08:49 I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU SAW THAT.
01:08:51 >>HARRY COHEN:
01:09:02 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THOSE IMPROVEMENT ARE NEEDED IF YOU LOOK
01:09:04 AT IT, THEY VARY BETWEEN 2025 TO 2040, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO
01:09:09 LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANS.
01:09:10 SO WE ARE TO DO THESE CONNECTIONS.
01:09:12 REMEMBER, THE CITY HAS ARE READY TO MAKE CONNECTIONS THROUGH
01:09:17 OUR DEVELOPER AGREEMENT ON KENNAN AND MEADOW POINT.
01:09:28 PASCO IS NOT THERE YET.
01:09:29 THEY ARE VERY CLOSE.
01:09:30 THEY ARE ON THE ROAD TO BUILDING THAT PORTION NOW TO MEADOW

01:09:33 POINT.
01:09:34 BUT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS, YES, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THEY
01:09:39 COULD GO AS LONG AS 2040 BEFORE THEY GET TO THE POINT OF
01:09:42 BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THE CONNECTION.
01:09:54 >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM?
01:09:55 PARDON ME, MA'AM.
01:09:57 IF I MAY.
01:09:58 IN 2040 IS AN INTERESTING YEAR BECAUSE BY THEN, BRUCE B.
01:10:02 DOWNS IS GOING TO BE 50% OVER CAPACITY BY THE YEAR 2040.
01:10:06 SO THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WITH OUR FRIENDS IN PASCO WITH
01:10:12 WHOM WE NEED A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND ENGAGEMENT TO MAKE THIS
01:10:14 HAPPEN, THAT'S JUST NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF REALITY AS I SEE
01:10:17 IT.
01:10:18 IT'S NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF REALITY AS MY CONSTITUENTS SEE
01:10:20 IT.
01:10:21 WE ARE DEALING WITH AN AREA 33647 ZIP CODE THAT IN 1990 HAD
01:10:26 ABOUT 7,000 PEOPLE.
01:10:27 TODAY THAT NUMBER HAS EXPANDED BY ABOUT 800 PERCENT.
01:10:32 A MAJORITY OF THE GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
01:10:34 TAMPA AREA COMES FROM 33647, THE NEW TAMPA AREA.
01:10:38 AND WHEN I HEAR THAT THESE CONNECTORS AREN'T GOING TO HAPPEN
01:10:42 UP TO 2040 WHEN BRUCE B. DOWNS WILL BE 50% OVER CAPACITY,
01:10:47 THAT TO ME IS JUST NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF REALITY WITH ALL
01:10:52 DUE RESPECT TO OUR FRIENDS IN PASCO COUNTY.
01:10:53 SO WE KEEP ON HEARING DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS TO THIS, A YEAR

01:10:58 AND A HALF AGO TWO, YEARS, WHEN WE ARE TOLD THAT PASCO
01:11:00 COUNTY WANTED A HALF MILLION DOLLAR TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IT
01:11:03 TO THEIR FRIENDS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THROUGH COUNTY
01:11:06 COMMISSIONER KEN HAGAN PUT FORTH 250,000.
01:11:09 NOW WE ARE SEEING THE NEGATIVITY, PERCEIVED NEGATIVITY FROM
01:11:13 THIS REPORT, AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE OBSTACLES TO MAKING
01:11:18 THIS HAPPEN.
01:11:19 WE NEED TO HAVE COOPERATION.
01:11:20 WE NEED TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
01:11:22 BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE WITHIN THE REALM, REALITY, AND WITH
01:11:26 ALL DUE RESPECT TO OUR GOOD FRIENDS IN PASCO COUNTY, I DON'T
01:11:29 SEE THAT REALITY HERE.
01:11:33 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: I'M NOT SAYING THAT -- NOT WE, IF THE
01:11:36 DEVELOPER CONNECTS TO KENNAN AND CONNECTS MEADOW POINT, THAT
01:11:41 IMPROVEMENTS AREN'T NEEDED.
01:11:42 YES, THEY ARE NEEDED.
01:11:44 I AGREE.
01:11:47 THE DEVELOPER SHOULD BE ALSO PUTTING THOSE INTO PASCO.
01:11:51 BUT THERE SHOULD BE DIALOGUE.
01:11:52 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DIALOGUE.
01:11:54 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO MAKE THESE
01:11:56 CONNECTIONS.
01:11:57 AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY.
01:11:59 IT'S NOT JUST PASCO.
01:12:01 THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT SO YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASED

01:12:03 TRAFFIC ON PASCO, OUR MPO AS WELL AS THEIRS, EVEN IN THEIR
01:12:08 STUDY.
01:12:09 IT'S 7,000 VEHICLES SPREAD OVER THREE DIFFERENT CONNECTIONS.
01:12:14 IT'S NOT A LOT.
01:12:15 BUT IT IS ON THREE CONNECTIONS.
01:12:20 TWO ROADWAYS, BRUCE B. DOWNS, AND MORRIS BRIDGE.
01:12:24 WHERE IS IT GOING?
01:12:26 THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH.
01:12:27 SO CONNECTIONS ARE NEEDED FOR SAFETY, FOR PUBLIC HEALTH,
01:12:32 SAFETY AND WELFARE TO GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
01:12:34 IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET AROUND.
01:12:36 IT DOESN'T -- WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES?
01:12:40 ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY UP
01:12:42 THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MANY CONNECTORS.
01:12:46 >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE CITY DID GO MEET WITH PASCO COUNTY.
01:12:54 IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
01:12:55 BUT WITH HIGH LEVEL FOLKS IN THE COUNTY.
01:12:57 THAT MEETING RESULTED IN A LETTER DEMAND FROM PASCO COUNTY
01:13:02 WHICH WE HAVE DEMANDING CERTAIN INVESTMENTS FROM THE CITY
01:13:08 FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE GOING INTO PASCO
01:13:12 COUNTY.
01:13:12 SO I THINK THEIR BASIC PHILOSOPHY DIFFERENTIAL, OR THEY HAVE
01:13:18 A PHILOSOPHY THAT OPPOSED TO THE CONNECTION, AN AVERSION
01:13:23 THEY HAVE TO THE CONNECTION, AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S REALLY AN
01:13:25 ISSUE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS ON THE CITY SIDE AND PASCO

01:13:29 COUNTY GOVERNMENT, I THINK LIKE MELANIE SAID THAT DIALOGUE
01:13:34 NEEDS TO GET REFRESHED TO TRY TO GET THAT PHILOSOPHY THAT
01:13:37 PASCO COUNTY SEEMS TO HAVE, TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF US
01:13:43 TO DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF MAKING ALL THE GRID CONNECTIONS.
01:13:47 THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE BEARDSLEY CONNECTING TO TAMPA
01:13:51 AT SOME POINT SO WE NEED THEM AND THEY NEED US, AND I THINK
01:13:54 THAT DIALOGUE NEEDS TO BE REFRESHED BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ALL
01:13:57 KIND OF GET INTO THE WEEDS OF THIS STUDY AND THAT STUDY, AND
01:14:01 WHAT ENTITLEMENT SOMEBODY HAS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO STEP
01:14:04 OUTSIDE OF THAT AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S HAVE THIS PHILOSOPHY
01:14:09 CONVERSATION AND GET TOGETHER.
01:14:10 WE DID MAKE AN ATTEMPT AS CITY OF TAMPA STAFF TO TRITE TO
01:14:14 GET THE HILLSBOROUGH AND PASCO MPOs TOGETHER SOME YEARS
01:14:18 AGO BECAUSE THOSE TWO LONG-RANGE PLANS SEEM TO BE -- NEED TO
01:14:22 BE SYNCHRONIZED AT THE COUNTY LINE AND THEY ARE NOT AND
01:14:25 THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO GET ATTENTION THAT
01:14:28 THE TWO LONG-RANGE PLANS SHOULD BE MELDED TOGETHER TO CREATE
01:14:31 THAT NETWORK THEY NEED.
01:14:35 >>LUIS VIERA: AND ONE THING YOU MENTIONED WAS PUBLIC
01:14:39 SAFETY. THIS SEWAGE WHO PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
01:14:41 WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES IN K-BAR RANCH, OTO SCHLOSSER,
01:14:49 AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THESE CONNECTIONS HAD TO WAIT
01:14:51 ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET TO A HOSPITAL.
01:14:54 HE'S A VERY GOOD MAN.
01:14:55 AND ALSO, I SEE MOVEMENT THAT WE NEED WITHIN PASCO COUNTY

01:14:59 WITHIN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OF PASCO COUNTY IN TERMS OF
01:15:02 PUSHING.
01:15:03 THIS IS NOT JUST A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. THIS ISN'T JUST A
01:15:06 RESIDENTIAL TYPE ISSUE.
01:15:08 THIS IS ALSO A MATTER OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC ENTERPRISE
01:15:11 AND DEVELOPMENT.
01:15:12 IF YOU HAVE BUSINESSES IN PASCO COUNTY, YOU WANT PEOPLE FROM
01:15:16 NEW TAMPA, THE CITY OF TAMPA, FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, TO
01:15:19 GO OVER AND SPEND THEIR MONEY IN YOUR BUSINESS, AND RIGHT
01:15:23 NOW, THEIR ONLY ROUTE IS BRUCE B. DOWNS WHICH TAKES FOREVER.
01:15:27 SO IT'S ALSO A BUSINESS ISSUE.
01:15:29 AND PEOPLE WITHIN PASCO COUNTY, THE BUSINESSES, NEED TO
01:15:33 ORGANIZE FOR THIS.
01:15:35 >> I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING.
01:15:37 PASCO WAS ALL FOR MEADOW POINT AND THE MANSFIELD CONNECTION.
01:15:42 THEY ARE.
01:15:42 BUT MY POINT IS IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE KENNAN CONNECTION
01:15:46 WHICH IS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE ROUTE, YOU WILL HAVE HEAVY LOAD
01:15:49 THE OTHER TWO CONNECTIONS.
01:15:50 THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY OF HEAVY LOADING THOSE TWO.
01:15:53 SO THAT BECOMES MORE OF AN ISSUE ON OUR SIDE, BECAUSE K-BAR
01:15:56 RANCH PARKWAY IS TWO LANE, WE HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR
01:16:00 FOUR LANE AND WE WILL BE WIDENING.
01:16:03 BUT IT'S NOT OUR 3,000 UNITS.
01:16:07 IT'S THEIR 21,000.

01:16:09 THAT'S MY CONCERN.
01:16:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
01:16:14 ANYTHING ELSE?
01:16:17 THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
01:16:20 ALL RIGHT.
01:16:20 AT THIS TIME WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.
01:16:26 MR. COHEN.
01:16:26 >>HARRY COHEN: I HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM.
01:16:30 THE FIRST IS AS I PROMISED EARLIER, I DO WANT TO MAKE A
01:16:33 MOTION FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY IN THE BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD,
01:16:37 SPECIFICALLY ALONG CLEVELAND, BEHIND THE PROPOSED NEW PUBLIX
01:16:42 WHERE WE CAN PUT THE FOUR-WAY STOPS AND ACCESS ISSUES.
01:16:46 I AM NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THAT TO COME BACK ON A CERTAIN
01:16:48 DATE.
01:16:49 I AM JUST GOING TO BE ASK FOR THE STUDY.
01:16:51 >> SECOND.
01:16:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
01:16:54 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
01:16:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:16:57 OPPOSED?
01:16:57 >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND, I WANT TO ASK THAT WHEN WE HAVE OUR
01:17:00 WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 30th ABOUT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT,
01:17:04 THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS, I WANT TO ASK THAT WE ALL
01:17:09 TALK ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO
01:17:13 ALLOW THE NEW CONCEPT OF HOUSING THAT'S PRODUCED WITH

01:17:19 CONTAINERS, WITH SHIPPING CONTAINERS, AND WHETHER OR NOT
01:17:22 WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT AND LAND USE REQUIREMENT OF
01:17:25 THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE.
01:17:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT'S A MOTION?
01:17:32 >> SECOND.
01:17:33 >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
01:17:34 JUST A WORKSHOP ON THE 30th.
01:17:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
01:17:39 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
01:17:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:17:40 OPPOSED?
01:17:41 >>HARRY COHEN: I AM GOING TO WITHHOLD THE OTHER ONE UNTIL
01:17:44 OUR NEXT MEETING.
01:17:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A
01:17:49 COMMENDATION TO THE ITALIAN CLUB IN CELEBRATION OF THEIR
01:17:54 100TH ANNIVERSARY.
01:17:56 I HAVE NOVEMBER 1st TO DO THAT.
01:17:57 >> SECOND.
01:17:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
01:18:00 SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
01:18:01 >> JULY 1st?
01:18:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
01:18:13 OPPOSED?
01:18:14 ALL RIGHT.
01:18:15 ANYTHING ELSE?

01:18:16 MR. MIRANDA.
01:18:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COMMENDATION TO JUDY BLANCO -- [OFF
01:18:22 MICROPHONE] WHO IS BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE YBOR CITY
01:18:24 ROUNDTABLE WITH THE SAM G. LETO AWARD THIS SUNDAY AT CENTRO
01:18:25 ASTURIANO DE TAMPA.
01:18:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
01:18:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:18:33 OPPOSED?
01:18:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
01:18:36 THE JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL TEAM, THE COACHES, PRINCIPAL,
01:18:39 ATHLETIC DIRECTOR FOR WINNING THE 2018 CLASS 6 BASEBALL
01:18:44 STATE OF FLORIDA CHAMPIONSHIP.
01:18:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
01:18:47 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
01:18:48 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
01:18:50 OPPOSED?
01:18:51 >>LUIS VIERA: NONE, SIR.
01:18:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE
01:19:01 REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO APPEAR
01:19:04 BEFORE COUNCIL ON JUNE 28th TO EXPLAIN THEIR POLICY AS
01:19:11 RELATES TO THEIR CANCELLATION POLICY TO SPECIAL EVENTS IN
01:19:12 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:19:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
01:19:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:19:17 ALL IN FAVOR?

01:19:18 ANY OPPOSED?
01:19:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
01:19:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
01:19:24 >> SECOND.
01:19:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR?
01:19:27 THANK YOU.
01:19:27 (MEETING ADJOURNED.)

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