TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 28, 2018
5:01 P.M.
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17:06:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD EVENING.
17:06:49 WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS TAMPA
17:06:51 CITY COUNCIL EVENING NEGLECT
17:06:52 ORDER.
17:06:53 AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE ROLL
17:06:54 CALL.
17:06:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
17:06:57 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
17:06:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
17:07:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
17:07:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
17:07:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
17:07:08 ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL.
17:07:09 WE'RE GOING TO START OFF MAKING
17:07:10 A FEW ADJUSTMENTS, AND THE
17:07:12 FIRST ADJUSTMENT IS GOING TO BE
17:07:14 STAFF, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU
17:07:18 COME BEFORE US FOR ITEM NO. 3.
17:07:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN,
17:07:27 I BELIEVE THE REQUEST OF THE
17:07:28 PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO HEAR
17:07:30 NOS. 3 AND 4 TOGETHER, CLOSE
17:07:32 THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AND
17:07:34 THEN VOTE SEPARATELY.
17:07:36 THE MOTION TO OPEN, PLEASE.
17:07:37 >> SO MOVE TO OPEN,
17:07:37 MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:07:38 >> SECOND.
17:07:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:07:40 GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA,
17:07:41 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
17:07:42 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
17:07:42 AYE.
17:07:43 OPPOSED.
17:07:44 ALL RIGHT.
17:07:46 LET'S GO.
17:07:48 >> GOOD EVENING, TAMPA CITY
17:07:50 COUNCIL, JENNIFER MALONE WITH
17:07:51 YOUR TAMPA CITY STAFF.
17:07:55 I WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NO. 303,
17:07:58 WHICH IS PLAN AMENDMENT 17-18A.
17:07:59 THIS IS WITHIN THE LOWRY PARK
17:08:00 CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:08:01 IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
17:08:03 SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT AT ONLY
17:08:06 0.15 ACRES, AND THE REQUEST
17:08:09 BEFORE YOU IS TO GO FROM
17:08:10 RESIDENTIAL-10 TO
17:08:11 RESIDENTIAL-20.
17:08:12 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:08:15 IT IS LOCATED 8714 NORTH TAMPA
17:08:16 STREET.
17:08:17 THIS IS NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
17:08:18 WE HAVE A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL
17:08:20 USES ALONG NORTH FLORIDA
17:08:21 AVENUE, INCLUDING A HOME DEPOT
17:08:23 AND A DOLLAR TREE, AND
17:08:25 RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG NORTH
17:08:25 TAMPA STREET.
17:08:29 THIS IS -- I'LL SHOW SOME
17:08:29 PICTURES.
17:08:30 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:08:31 THESE ARE SOME OF THE
17:08:33 SURROUNDING AREAS ALONG NORTH
17:08:38 TAMPA STREET.
17:08:43 AND THEN THE AREA ALONG NORTH
17:08:43 TAMPA STREET.
17:08:45 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND
17:08:45 USE MAP.
17:08:48 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:08:49 IN THE ORANGISH COLOR IS
17:08:50 RESIDENTIAL-10.
17:08:51 RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS
17:08:52 RESIDENTIAL-20.
17:08:53 THE RED IS COMMUNITY
17:08:56 COMMERCIAL-35, AND THE PINK IS
17:08:57 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, AND
17:08:59 THIS IS NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
17:09:01 IF APPROVED, THIS IS THE
17:09:05 PROPOSAL, AND SINCE THAT'S KIND
17:09:08 OF FAR AWAY, ON MY NEXT SLIDE I
17:09:08 ZOOMED IN.
17:09:09 IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH
17:09:11 IS THE SAME ACROSS THE STREET,
17:09:12 AND THEN TO THE SOUTH ON BOTH
17:09:17 SIDES OF THE STREET.
17:09:19 THE IMPACTS, IT WOULD INCREASE
17:09:20 THE DENSITY FROM ONE DWELLING
17:09:21 UNIT TO THREE.
17:09:22 IT WOULD INCREASE THE FLOOR
17:09:23 AREA RATIO, BUT THAT FLOOR AREA
17:09:25 RATIO CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED IF
17:09:27 THE SUBJECT SITE MEETS
17:09:30 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
17:09:31 WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
17:09:32 WITH SEVERAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:09:34 POLICIES RELATED TO SENSITIVE
17:09:36 TRANSITIONS IN DENSITY AS WELL
17:09:38 AS MAXIMIZING THE USE OF
17:09:39 EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS
17:09:40 AREA OF THE CITY.
17:09:42 THIS WILL ALSO PROVIDE MORE
17:09:42 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
17:09:43 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT
17:09:45 CITY FORMED STRATEGY THAT OUR
17:09:47 PLAN SPEAKS TO.
17:09:48 AND WITH THAT, THE PLANNING
17:09:49 COMMISSION DID FIND THIS
17:09:52 CONSISTENT WITH 17-18A.
17:09:54 THEY FOUND 17-18A CONSISTENT
17:09:56 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:10:01 AND SINCE 17-18A AND B ON ITEMS
17:10:04 3 AND 4 ARE INTERRELATED, I'M
17:10:06 GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO ITEM
17:10:07 4.
17:10:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: MAKING
17:10:09 PROGRESS.
17:10:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: DON'T COUNT
17:10:15 YOUR CHICKENS.
17:10:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS
17:10:18 LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY
17:10:20 PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE LOWRY
17:10:22 PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, HOWEVER,
17:10:24 17-18B IS PUBLICLY INITIATED
17:10:28 BUT SMALL AT 1.58 ACRES, AND
17:10:29 THE REQUEST IS THE SAME, FROM
17:10:30 RESIDENTIAL-10 TO
17:10:31 RESIDENTIAL-20.
17:10:33 OH, OKAY.
17:10:35 SURE.
17:10:36 SORRY.
17:10:43 17-18B, SINCE THERE'S A LOT OF
17:10:44 TREE COVERAGE ON THE SITE, I
17:10:46 JUST KIND OF OUTLINED THE
17:10:49 SUBJECT SITE, BUT 17-18A WAS
17:10:51 KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
17:10:52 WE STILL HAVE NORTH FLORIDA
17:10:54 AVENUE AND THEN THOSE
17:10:55 COMMERCIAL USES.
17:10:58 AND THE SUBJECT PICTURES.
17:11:01 THIS IS NORTH TAMPA STREET.
17:11:03 THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE
17:11:06 SUBJECT SITE.
17:11:10 SOME MORE PICTURES OF THE
17:11:12 SUBJECT SITE.
17:11:14 THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL-10 RIGHT
17:11:15 ACROSS THE STREET.
17:11:16 AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT
17:11:18 RESIDENTIAL-20, AND THE
17:11:19 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL-35 ALONG
17:11:22 NORTH FLORIDA.
17:11:23 THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE
17:11:26 LAND USE MAP, AND THEN ON THE
17:11:29 NEXT SLIDE, I ZOOM IN.
17:11:31 AND AS YOU RECALL, THE MIDDLE
17:11:34 PARCEL IS 17-18A, WHICH WAS
17:11:35 PRESENTED EARLIER.
17:11:36 THIS IS THE PUBLICLY INITIATED
17:11:38 PORTION THAT JUST TAKES THE
17:11:40 REST OF NORTH TAMPA STREET.
17:11:41 THIS WOULD INCREASE THE DENSITY
17:11:43 FROM 18 UNITS TO 37 UNITS.
17:11:45 IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE
17:11:47 POTENTIAL FLOOR AREA RATIO.
17:11:49 IT WOULD ALLOW ABOUT 40,000
17:11:51 SQUARE FEET IF APPROVED, BUT,
17:11:52 AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD
17:11:54 HAVE TO MEET LOCATIONAL
17:11:55 CRITERIA TO UTILIZE THE FLOOR
17:11:56 AREA RATIO.
17:11:58 WE ALSO FOUND THIS CONSISTENT
17:11:58 WITH SEVERAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:12:00 POLICIES, ENCOURAGING THAT
17:12:01 SENSITIVE TRANSITION IN
17:12:03 DENSITY, AS WELL AS PROVIDING
17:12:05 THE VARIOUS HOUSING OPTIONS
17:12:06 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT
17:12:09 CITY FORMED STRATEGY, AND THE
17:12:10 PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO FOUND
17:12:13 17-18B CONSISTENT WITH THE
17:12:13 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:12:15 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY
17:12:16 QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS
17:12:19 PRESENT FOR 17-18A.
17:12:20 THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF
17:12:21 REVIEWED BOTH OF THESE
17:12:22 AMENDMENTS AND HAD NO
17:12:23 OBJECTIONS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO
17:12:25 HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT, IF YOU
17:12:25 WOULD LIKE.
17:12:26 THANK YOU.
17:12:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:12:31 CITY, DID YOU ALL WISH TO SPEAK
17:12:31 ON IT?
17:12:33 OH, OKAY.
17:12:36 >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT,
17:12:37 LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
17:12:38 BEFORE THE APPLICANT COMES UP
17:12:40 FOR THESE, I WANTED TO HAND OUT
17:12:41 THE CRITERIA THAT CITY COUNCIL
17:12:43 HAS USED WHEN THEY ARE
17:12:44 REVIEWING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:12:49 AMENDMENT.
17:12:51 FIRST, I WOULD REMIND CITY
17:12:53 COUNCIL THAT THESE DECISIONS,
17:12:54 AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE
17:12:56 PLAN, ARE LEGISLATIVE, AND,
17:12:57 THEREFORE, WHATEVER DECISION
17:12:58 YOU MAKE IS ENTITLED TO
17:13:00 DEFERENCE; HOWEVER, UNDER STATE
17:13:02 STATUTE, CAN YOU NOT ADOPT A
17:13:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT
17:13:03 THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
17:13:07 POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES IN THE
17:13:07 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO THE
17:13:09 FIRST THING YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR
17:13:11 IS WHETHER OR NOT THE AMENDMENT
17:13:13 IS INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR
17:13:15 ADOPTED PLAN POLICIES BECAUSE
17:13:16 THAT IS UNDER THE STATE
17:13:17 STATUTE.
17:13:18 IN ADDITION, IN THE
17:13:20 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF IT
17:13:21 HAD SOME CRITERIA TO HELP YOU
17:13:22 ASSESS THAT, AND I'VE
17:13:24 HIGHLIGHTED THAT FOR YOUR
17:13:25 CONVENIENCE.
17:13:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:13:30 THE APPLICANT.
17:13:31 >> HI.
17:13:32 MY NAME'S CHRISTINA MENDOZA
17:13:32 JUSTINIANO.
17:13:37 I'M THE OWNER OF 8714 NORTH
17:13:39 TAMPA STREET.
17:13:39 I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IT
17:13:41 WILL BE TWO YEARS IN AUGUST.
17:13:42 I PURCHASED IT ASSUMING THIS
17:13:44 WAS A MULTIFAMILY HOME BECAUSE
17:13:46 WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP, IT IS, AND
17:13:48 THE SELLER NEVER MADE IT AWARE
17:13:49 TO ME THAT IT HAD ZONING
17:13:51 ISSUES, AND FOR LACK OF
17:13:52 KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, I
17:13:54 DIDN'T THINK OF LOOKING AT
17:13:55 THAT.
17:13:56 THIS HOME IS ALMOST 70 YEARS
17:13:57 OLD.
17:13:59 IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR 70 YEARS
17:14:00 NOW.
17:14:02 I MADE THIS INVESTMENT TO PUT
17:14:05 MY KIDS FORWARD IF THEY DECIDE
17:14:06 TO GO TO COLLEGE ONE DAY, AND I
17:14:08 REALLY HOPE YOU GUYS TAKE THAT
17:14:09 IN CONSIDERATION.
17:14:10 I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO
17:14:11 CHANGING ANYTHING THAT WASN'T
17:14:12 ALREADY THERE.
17:14:13 THANK YOU.
17:14:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS
17:14:15 FOR THE APPLICANT?
17:14:16 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
17:14:19 WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 3
17:14:21 OR 4?
17:14:22 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:14:23 >> SECOND.
17:14:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:14:24 I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM
17:14:27 MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
17:14:27 MR. COHEN.
17:14:28 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
17:14:29 AYE.
17:14:29 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:14:32 ALL RIGHT.
17:14:35 NO. 3, MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU BE
17:14:37 WILLING TO READ THAT?
17:14:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I WOULD,
17:14:39 MR. CHAIR.
17:14:40 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
17:14:42 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
17:14:43 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
17:14:45 AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:14:45 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
17:14:46 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
17:14:49 GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8714 NORTH
17:14:49 TAMPA STREET, FROM
17:14:52 RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10, TO
17:14:54 RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING
17:14:56 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
17:14:59 CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
17:14:59 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
17:14:59 EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:15:00 >> SECOND.
17:15:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'VE GOT A
17:15:03 MOTION BY MR. VIERA, SECONDED
17:15:03 BY MR. MIRANDA.
17:15:05 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
17:15:05 AYE.
17:15:06 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:15:08 OKAY.
17:15:11 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:15:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION TO
17:15:13 BE HELD ON JULY 19TH AT 9:30
17:15:14 A.M.
17:15:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:15:17 GO TO ITEM NO. 4.
17:15:18 MR. MIRANDA.
17:15:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU,
17:15:19 MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:15:23 MOVE FILE NO. 4, FILE NO.
17:15:27 PA17-18B, MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR
17:15:30 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
17:15:31 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:15:32 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND
17:15:33 USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
17:15:35 GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8702,
17:15:41 8706, 8708, 8710, 8712, 8716,
17:15:47 8718, 8722, AND 8724 NORTH
17:15:48 TAMPA STREET, FROM
17:15:50 RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10, TO
17:15:53 RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20PROVIDING
17:15:53 FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
17:15:54 EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:15:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY
17:15:56 MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY
17:15:57 MR. COHEN.
17:15:58 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
17:16:00 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE
17:16:01 MOTION SAY AYE.
17:16:02 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:16:04 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
17:16:04 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION TO
17:16:07 BE HELD JULY 19TH AT 9:30 A.M.
17:16:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: STAFF, WE GO
17:16:11 TO NO. 5.
17:16:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN,
17:16:14 IF YOU COULD GO TO NO. 6,
17:16:14 PLEASE.
17:16:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: WHY SO?
17:16:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE
17:16:19 PERHAPS 5 MAY TAKE LONGER,
17:16:20 UNLESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:16:21 WISHES TO TAKE IT NOW.
17:16:23 WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
17:16:24 >> REGARDING NO. 5, THERE WAS
17:16:27 OPPOSITION AT PLANNING
17:16:28 COMMISSION, SO IF YOU'RE
17:16:29 LOOKING -- THERE MAY BE
17:16:31 OPPOSITION HERE FOR NO. 5,
17:16:32 SO --
17:16:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MANY IN
17:16:34 THE AUDIENCE ARE PLANNING ON
17:16:38 SPEAKING ON ITEM NO. 5?
17:16:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND
17:16:40 MR. CHAIRMAN, WE SHOULD ALSO BE
17:16:41 AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE
17:16:43 ARE PEOPLE OUTSIDE IN THE LOBBY
17:16:45 AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE
17:16:47 MASCOT ROOM AND THE SISTER
17:16:49 CITIES ROOM, SO WE HAVE TO
17:16:50 PERHAPS ALLOW ENOUGH TIME FOR
17:16:51 PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET UP
17:16:51 HERE.
17:16:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK
17:16:54 YOU, WHO'S GOING TO BE OUR
17:16:55 GATEKEEPER BECAUSE WE'LL NEED
17:16:57 TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OR
17:16:59 DOWNSTAIRS TO AT LEAST GIVE US
17:16:59 SOME INFORMATION HOW MANY
17:17:00 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
17:17:02 SPEAKING.
17:17:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: [OFF
17:17:02 MICROPHONE]
17:17:12 >> COUNCIL, BETWEEN KRISTIN
17:17:15 MORA, WE'RE WILLING TO GO
17:17:17 DOWNSTAIRS TO SEE WHO'S HERE
17:17:19 FROM ITEM 1 AND 2 DOWNSTAIRS.
17:17:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE DO HAVE STAFF
17:17:23 THAT CAN GO DOWN THERE SO OUR
17:17:25 LAWYERS CAN STICK HERE IN CASE
17:17:26 WE NEED THEM.
17:17:29 >> I'LL TELL THEM.
17:17:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU CAN STAY
17:17:32 HERE.
17:17:32 [OFF MICROPHONE]
17:17:35 >> THERE THEY ARE.
17:17:37 >> I FORGET TECHNOLOGY.
17:17:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
17:17:42 ALL RIGHT.
17:17:43 AND DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF
17:17:45 OPPOSITION ON ITEM NO. 6, WHILE
17:17:48 WE'RE WAITING ON THE GOOD WORD?
17:17:49 >>DAVID HEY: THERE WAS NO
17:17:51 OPPOSITION FOR NO. 6 AT THE
17:17:51 PLANNING COMMISSION.
17:17:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET'S DO 6.
17:17:54 >>DAVID HEY: SO LET'S DO 6.
17:17:55 OKAY.
17:17:59 THAT WOULD BE 18-02.
17:18:05 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
17:18:07 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING
17:18:07 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:18:10 THE NEXT ITEM IS -- FOR YOUR
17:18:24 REVIEW IS PLAN AMENDMENT 18-02.
17:18:28 THE AMENDMENT IS LOCATED IN THE
17:18:30 UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT.
17:18:31 IT'S ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE
17:18:38 LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:18:39 WE HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE
17:18:41 SUBJECT SITE.
17:18:43 YOU CAN SEE HERE IS NORTH
17:18:43 FLORIDA AVENUE.
17:18:46 THIS IS THE WATER TOWER AND A
17:18:49 PARK THERE ON THE RIVER, EAST
17:18:53 BIRD STREET, NORTH RIVER SHORE
17:18:54 DRIVE.
17:18:59 THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
17:19:01 MAP AMENDMENT.
17:19:02 IT IS SMALL-SCALE.
17:19:05 IT'S APPROXIMATELY .35 ACRES IN
17:19:05 SIZE.
17:19:07 CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT SITE IS
17:19:08 RESIDENTIAL-35, AND THE
17:19:11 APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT GOING
17:19:13 TO AN URBAN MIXED USE-60 FUTURE
17:19:15 LAND USE CATEGORY.
17:19:17 HERE WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE
17:19:19 SUBJECT SITE.
17:19:21 THIS AREA IN THE FRONT, WE'RE
17:19:25 LOOKING TOWARD FLORIDA AVENUE.
17:19:27 THIS PORTION IS THAT URBAN
17:19:28 MIXED USE-60.
17:19:30 THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL-35
17:19:31 PORTION, AND ACROSS THE STREET
17:19:33 THERE, BEHIND THIS BUILDING, IS
17:19:33 THE RIVER.
17:19:35 ALL THIS IS URBAN MIXED USE-60
17:19:36 WHERE THAT BUILD SOMETHING
17:19:39 LOCATED.
17:19:40 HERE WE HAVE ANOTHER VIEW.
17:19:43 YOU CAN SEE THE WATER TOWER IN
17:19:43 THE DISTANCE.
17:19:46 AGAIN, THIS IS THE BACK OF THAT
17:19:47 RESTAURANT -- FORMER
17:19:47 RESTAURANT.
17:19:50 THE FRONT, ALL THIS IS UMU-60,
17:19:52 THE BACK, RESIDENTIAL-35.
17:19:55 AND, AGAIN, HERE'S A VIEW OF
17:19:58 THE MULTIFAMILY THAT ABUTS THE
17:19:59 PARKING LOT THAT IS SEEKING TO
17:20:02 GO TO UMU-60.
17:20:05 AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE
17:20:06 FRONT.
17:20:06 OOPS.
17:20:12 HERE WE HAVE THE CURRENTLY
17:20:15 ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
17:20:16 THE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE
17:20:18 IN THIS BROWN COLOR IS THAT
17:20:21 RESIDENTIAL-35.
17:20:24 THIS PURPLE COLOR HERE IS THE
17:20:25 URBAN MIXED USE-60.
17:20:27 YOU'VE GOT RECREATION OPEN
17:20:28 SPACE, YOU'VE GOT
17:20:30 RESIDENTIAL-10, SOME
17:20:32 PUBLIC-QUASI PUBLIC, AND
17:20:37 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL-35.
17:20:39 IF THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED,
17:20:40 THE PARKING LOT, THAT SMALL
17:20:41 PORTION IN THE BACK, WOULD GO
17:20:44 TO THAT UMU-60 AS WELL.
17:20:48 THE IMPACTS CURRENTLY, 12
17:20:51 DWELLING UNITS OR 9,147 SQUARE
17:20:54 FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES CAN
17:20:57 BE CONSIDERED, UNDER THE URBAN
17:20:59 MIXED USE-60 A MAXIMUM OF 21
17:21:01 UNITS OR 49,549 SQUARE FEET.
17:21:02 IT WOULD ALLOW AN INCREASE IN
17:21:03 DENSITY AND INTENSITY ON THE
17:21:08 SUBJECT SITE.
17:21:08 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:21:09 REVIEWED AND FOUND IT
17:21:10 CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER OF
17:21:15 POLICY AREAS IN THE PLAN.
17:21:17 ONE OF THE AREAS REGARDING THE
17:21:19 PROMOTION OF A MIXTURE OF USES
17:21:21 ALONG OUR MAIN CORRIDORS AND IN
17:21:23 AREAS WHERE THERE'S A MIXTURE
17:21:26 OF EMPLOYMENT AND TRANSIT
17:21:29 FACILITIES AND ALSO THE
17:21:31 PROMOTION OF INFILL IN GENERAL
17:21:34 IN THE CITY ON UNDERUTILIZED
17:21:35 SITES.
17:21:38 SO BASED ON THAT, THE PLANNING
17:21:41 -- AGAIN, HERE WE GO.
17:21:41 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:21:42 RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED
17:21:44 MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND
17:21:45 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
17:21:46 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
17:21:47 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:21:48 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY
17:21:49 PRESENTATION.
17:21:50 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
17:21:51 QUESTIONS.
17:21:53 THE CITY -- BEFORE I CLOSE, THE
17:21:55 CITY DID NOT OBJECT, AND I
17:21:57 DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANY
17:21:58 PRESENTATION.
17:22:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:22:01 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO
17:22:06 SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 6?
17:22:07 FROM MY UNDERSTANDING --
17:22:08 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:22:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: MY
17:22:10 UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S TWO
17:22:11 PEOPLE OUT IN THE -- DID YOU
17:22:13 SAY THERE WAS TWO?
17:22:14 OH, OKAY.
17:22:15 YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
17:22:18 COME DOWN, ITEM NO. 6.
17:22:23 >> MY NAME IS ANDREW MATHERS.
17:22:25 RIVERSIDE MARINE IS OUR
17:22:26 COMPANY, AND WE BOUGHT THE
17:22:27 PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET,
17:22:29 WHICH IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL,
17:22:30 AND THEN THE PARKING LOT WAS
17:22:31 NOT.
17:22:32 WE'RE JUST TRYING TO EXPAND OUR
17:22:34 BUSINESS INTO THAT AREA SO
17:22:35 WHERE WE CAN USE THAT PARKING
17:22:37 LOT AS A PARKING LOT BUT
17:22:38 COMMERCIALLY.
17:22:38 THANK YOU.
17:22:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
17:22:42 ALL RIGHT.
17:22:44 YOU, SIR, YOU WISH TO -- OKAY.
17:22:45 ALL RIGHT.
17:22:46 ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME WANT
17:22:48 TO SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 6?
17:22:48 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:22:49 >> SECOND.
17:22:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:22:51 GOT A MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA,
17:22:53 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
17:22:55 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
17:22:56 AYE.
17:22:56 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:22:57 ALL RIGHT.
17:23:02 ITEM NO. 6, MR. MIRANDA, WOULD
17:23:04 YOU BE WILLING TO READ THAT?
17:23:06 DID YOU READ THE LAST ONE?
17:23:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I READ THE
17:23:08 LAST ONE.
17:23:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'M SORRY.
17:23:10 MS. CAPIN.
17:23:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
17:23:11 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
17:23:14 FILE NO. PA18-02, ADOPTION
17:23:16 PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE
17:23:18 AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:23:19 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -- OH, WAIT,
17:23:21 LET ME GO OVER HERE.
17:23:21 SORRY.
17:23:22 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
17:23:24 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
17:23:27 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:23:27 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
17:23:28 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
17:23:31 GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8114 NORTH
17:23:31 FLORIDA AVENUE FROM
17:23:35 RESIDENTIAL-35, R-35, TO URBAN
17:23:39 MIXED USE-60, UMU-60; PROVIDING
17:23:41 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
17:23:42 CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR
17:23:42 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
17:23:43 EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:23:44 >> SECOND.
17:23:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'VE GOT A
17:23:47 MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN,
17:23:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:23:50 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
17:23:51 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE
17:23:52 MOTION SAY AYE.
17:23:53 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:23:53 OKAY.
17:23:54 >> MOTION CARRIED.
17:23:55 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
17:23:57 WILL BE HELD ON JULY 19TH AT
17:23:57 9:30 A.M.
17:24:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
17:24:02 WE'LL GO BACK TO 5.
17:24:03 WE HAVE NOTIFIED THE PEOPLE
17:24:05 THAT IF THEY WISH TO SPEAK, TO
17:24:07 MAKE THEIR WAY UP.
17:24:08 >>HARRY COHEN: MR. CHAIR, I'M
17:24:10 ABSTAINING FROM VOTING ON ITEM
17:24:10 NO. 5.
17:24:12 I'M RELATED TO THE PETITIONER,
17:24:14 AND I HAVE FILED THE
17:24:15 APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK.
17:24:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
17:24:20 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING,
17:24:21 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
17:24:22 DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION
17:24:22 STAFF.
17:24:24 THE NEXT ITEM FOR YOUR REVIEW,
17:24:31 ITEM 5, IS TA/CPA 18-01.
17:24:38 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN
17:24:38 THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
17:24:40 DISTRICT, MORE SPECIFICALLY IN
17:24:42 THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE,
17:24:46 AND ALSO THE NORTH HYDE PARK
17:24:47 NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:24:48 HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE
17:24:51 SUBJECT SITE.
17:24:53 THIS IS WILLOW.
17:24:54 WE HAVE CASS.
17:24:56 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT
17:24:57 HERE.
17:24:58 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS HEADING
17:25:01 TOWARD DOWNTOWN, THE NEW PARK
17:25:03 IS IN THE DISTANCE.
17:25:05 YOU CAN SEE THE MULTIFAMILY
17:25:07 DEVELOPING FURTHER TO THE WEST,
17:25:09 AND HERE YOU HAVE THE TAMPA --
17:25:13 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
17:25:14 A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
17:25:16 IT IS PRIVATELY INITIATED.
17:25:18 IT IS A SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT.
17:25:20 IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.93 ACRES
17:25:21 IN SIZE.
17:25:24 CURRENTLY, THE SITE HAS A
17:25:27 GENERAL MIXED USE-24 FUTURE
17:25:27 LAND USE CATEGORY.
17:25:28 THAT'S A CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS A
17:25:29 MIXTURE OF INDUSTRIAL,
17:25:31 RESIDENTIAL, AND COMMERCIAL --
17:25:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: EXCUSE ME FOR
17:25:34 A SECOND.
17:25:35 MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU GO OUT
17:25:37 THERE AND WARN THEM THAT WE'RE
17:25:40 IN A MEETING.
17:25:41 >> I THINK SO.
17:25:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:25:42 GO AHEAD.
17:25:44 >>DAVID HEY: AGAIN, IT'S IN
17:25:46 THAT GENERAL MIXED USE-24.
17:25:47 THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING AN
17:25:49 AMENDMENT TO GO TO THE
17:25:50 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 FUTURE
17:25:51 LAND USE CATEGORY.
17:25:55 HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE
17:25:56 SUBJECT SITE.
17:25:58 HERE WE'RE LOOKING SOUTHEAST TO
17:25:59 THE SUBJECT SITE FROM THE
17:26:01 CORNER OF WEST CASS STREET AND
17:26:02 NORTH WILLOW.
17:26:03 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT
17:26:05 HERE.
17:26:10 HERE WE'RE LOOKING NORTHWEST
17:26:11 FROM NORTH WILLOW AVENUE ACROSS
17:26:12 THE SITE.
17:26:13 THIS, AGAIN, IS THE SUBJECT
17:26:14 SITE.
17:26:15 THIS IS CASS STREET IN THE
17:26:17 DISTANCE HERE.
17:26:22 HERE WE'RE LOOKING EAST FROM
17:26:25 WEST CARMEN STREET TOWARD
17:26:25 DOWNTOWN.
17:26:26 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT
17:26:30 HERE.
17:26:33 AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING EAST DOWN
17:26:34 WEST CASS STREET, AGAIN,
17:26:36 DOWNTOWN IN THE DISTANCE.
17:26:38 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OVER HERE
17:26:39 ON THE RIGHT.
17:26:45 HERE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT SITE,
17:26:46 LOOKING -- THIS IS WILLOW.
17:26:50 WE'RE LOOKING SOUTHEAST.
17:26:56 HERE WE'RE ON CASS STREET.
17:26:57 WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE SUBJECT
17:26:59 SITE, LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
17:27:03 THIS IS THE BACK OF THE AREA,
17:27:04 THE EASTERN -- THE WESTERN
17:27:06 PORTION, EXCUSE ME.
17:27:08 HERE IS THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED
17:27:10 FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
17:27:13 THIS LIGHT BLUE COLOR IS THAT
17:27:14 GENERAL MIXED USE-24.
17:27:17 YOU'VE GOT THE COMMUNITY MIXED
17:27:18 USE-35 FURTHER TO THE WEST, AND
17:27:21 THEN YOU HAVE SOME
17:27:23 RESIDENTIAL-20 AND
17:27:25 RESIDENTIAL-35.
17:27:28 AND, AGAIN, UT IS RIGHT OFF THE
17:27:30 MAP HERE WHERE THAT BLUE IS.
17:27:33 HERE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED
17:27:35 FUTURE LAND USE MAP IF THIS
17:27:36 AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.
17:27:38 YOU CAN SEE IT -- THE SUBJECT
17:27:41 SITE HAS GONE TO THAT COMMUNITY
17:27:42 MIXED USE-35 FUTURE LAND USE
17:27:43 CATEGORY.
17:27:49 ON TO THE IMPACTS.
17:27:50 CURRENTLY THE SITE CAN BE
17:27:52 CONSIDERED FOR 46 DWELLING
17:27:55 UNITS OR A MAXIMUM OF 125,994
17:27:57 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL
17:28:00 OR RESIDENTIAL USES.
17:28:03 UNDER THE PROPOSED, IT WOULD GO
17:28:05 TO 67 UNITS OR A MAXIMUM OF
17:28:09 167,992.
17:28:10 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD
17:28:14 ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN
17:28:16 THE AREA.
17:28:17 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND
17:28:18 THE SUBJECT SITE CONSISTENT
17:28:20 WITH A NUMBER OF POLICY
17:28:23 DIRECTIVES, THE PROMOTION OF
17:28:24 ADDITIONAL INFILL IN
17:28:28 APPROPRIATE AREAS OF THE CITY,
17:28:29 THE PROMOTION OF A
17:28:31 HIGHER-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
17:28:32 DEVELOPMENT IN APPROPRIATE
17:28:34 AREAS WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO
17:28:39 TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT
17:28:41 OPPORTUNITIES, AND THEN THE
17:28:44 REDEVELOPMENT OF OUR MIXED-USE
17:28:45 CORRIDORS ARE ONE OF THE
17:28:48 STRATEGIES UNDER OUR CITY'S
17:28:51 GROWTH STRATEGY, BASICALLY, AND
17:28:53 PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND
17:28:55 THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS
17:28:58 CONSISTENT WITH THE 2040 TAMPA
17:28:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:29:00 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
17:29:02 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
17:29:03 QUESTIONS.
17:29:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:29:05 THANK YOU.
17:29:07 ANYTHING FROM -- ALL RIGHT.
17:29:08 PETITIONER, IS THE PETITIONER
17:29:09 HERE?
17:29:18 >>DAVID HEY: YES.
17:29:19 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
17:29:20 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
17:29:22 MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.
17:29:25 MY ADDRESS IS SUITE 3700 BANK
17:29:26 OF AMERICA PLAZA, AND I HAVE
17:29:28 THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING
17:29:30 ABC CAPITAL CORPORATION, WHICH
17:29:31 IS THE PETITIONER IN THIS
17:29:32 APPLICATION THIS EVENING.
17:29:33 WE'VE PRESENTED OUR FINDINGS
17:29:37 AND THE REPORT FROM MR. HEY TO
17:29:38 THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST
17:29:39 MONTH.
17:29:40 PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED A
17:29:42 RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THIS PLAN
17:29:45 AMENDMENT FROM CMU-24 TO
17:29:47 CMU-35.
17:29:50 IN SUMMARY, THIS IS THE TAMPA
17:29:51 SHOWMEN'S ASSOCIATION CLUBHOUSE
17:29:52 THAT'S BEEN ON THE CORNER OF
17:29:54 WILLOW AND CASS FOR MANY YEARS
17:29:58 AND IS NO LONGER IN OPERATION,
17:30:02 AND THE GMU-24 DESIGNATION, IF
17:30:03 YOU READ THROUGH THE CONTEXT OF
17:30:06 THE PLAN, IS A CATCH-ALL LAND
17:30:08 USE PLAN CATEGORY, USUALLY IN A
17:30:10 TRANSITIONAL AREA WHERE THE
17:30:12 PLAN IS NOT QUITE SPELLED OUT
17:30:13 FOR A TREND.
17:30:15 IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAPS THAT
17:30:17 MR. HEY SHOWED YOU, YOU'LL SEE
17:30:19 THE MOVING TREND OF CMU-35
17:30:21 APPROACHING THE RIVER, AND HIS
17:30:24 FINDINGS CLEARLY NOTE THAT THE
17:30:26 PLAN IS INTENDED TO, QUOTE,
17:30:28 ENCOURAGE MIXED-USE,
17:30:30 MIXED-INCOME HOUSING
17:30:31 DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA'S NEW
17:30:33 DOWNTOWN AREAS OF WEST TAMPA.
17:30:35 THIS IS THE OLD WEST TAMPA THAT
17:30:36 WAS WEST OF THE RIVER.
17:30:38 IN FACT, THIS IS A WEST TAMPA
17:30:39 PLAT.
17:30:41 THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF
17:30:43 WEST TAMPA BEFORE IT WAS
17:30:44 INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY.
17:30:47 SO FINALLY, ON THIS NIGHT, THIS
17:30:49 EVENING, THIS TIME, THIS
17:30:51 PROPERTY IS WANTING TO COME
17:30:51 INTO FRUITION.
17:30:53 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
17:30:53 APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN
17:30:54 AMENDMENT.
17:30:55 WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF
17:30:56 NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT
17:30:57 AGREEMENT FOR THE F.A.R.
17:30:58 INCREASE.
17:31:00 I'LL RESERVE THE REMAINDER OF
17:31:01 MY COMMENTS FOR REBUTTAL.
17:31:03 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
17:31:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:31:05 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO
17:31:08 SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 5?
17:31:12 ITEM NO. 5.
17:31:13 ALL RIGHT.
17:31:14 THEY HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED
17:31:19 DOWNSTAIRS AND IN THE HALLWAY,
17:31:20 SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
17:31:21 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:31:22 >> SECOND.
17:31:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'VE GOT A
17:31:25 MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA,
17:31:27 SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
17:31:28 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT
17:31:30 MOTION SAY AYE.
17:31:30 OPPOSED.
17:31:31 ALL RIGHT.
17:31:35 MR. MANISCALCO, ITEM NO. 5.
17:31:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU
17:31:35 VERY MUCH.
17:31:38 BEFORE I READ THE ORDINANCE,
17:31:40 MR. GRANDOFF, I APPRECIATE YOU
17:31:42 SAYING WEST TAMPA REPEATEDLY
17:31:43 BECAUSE I WAS TALKING WITH
17:31:45 SOMEONE THIS WEEK THAT SAYS
17:31:48 NORTH HYDE PARK SAYS, THIS IS
17:31:49 WEST TAMPA.
17:31:50 SO I HAVE YOU ON THE RECORD
17:31:52 STATING THREE TIMES WEST TAMPA,
17:31:53 SO I'LL USE THIS FOR REFERENCE
17:31:54 WITH THE PERSON.
17:31:56 >> THE PLAT IS CALLED WOODLAWN
17:31:58 PARK, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE
17:32:00 PLAT, THE CITY CLERK OF THE
17:32:01 CITY OF WEST TAMPA CERTIFIED
17:32:04 THE PLAT BACK IN, I THINK, 1919
17:32:06 WHEN IT WAS STILL A CITY.
17:32:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD.
17:32:08 100 YEARS OF GUARANTEE RIGHT
17:32:09 THERE.
17:32:10 >> COMING ALONG.
17:32:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NORTH OF
17:32:11 KENNEDY.
17:32:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN
17:32:15 ORDINANCE BEING CONSIDERED FOR
17:32:17 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
17:32:17 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:32:17 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
17:32:19 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
17:32:21 GENERALLY LOCATED AT 608 NORTH
17:32:24 WILLOW AVENUE AND 1332 WEST
17:32:26 CASS STREET, FROM GENERAL MIXED
17:32:31 USE-24, GMU-24, TO COMMUNITY
17:32:33 MIXED USE-35; PROVIDING FOR
17:32:33 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
17:32:33 CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
17:32:33 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
17:32:34 EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:32:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE I
17:32:42 VOTE, IT'S NOT WEST TAMPA, IT'S
17:32:44 WEST TAMPA.
17:32:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: GET IT RIGHT.
17:32:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: MAY WE HAVE A
17:32:47 SECOND?
17:32:48 >> WAS THAT A SECOND?
17:32:49 >> SECOND.
17:32:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
17:32:51 A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO,
17:32:52 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
17:32:53 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
17:32:54 AYE.
17:32:55 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:32:57 ALL RIGHT.
17:32:58 MOTION CARRIED.
17:33:03 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
17:33:05 WITH COHEN ABSTAINING.
17:33:06 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
17:33:08 WILL BE JULY 19TH AT 9:30 A.M.
17:33:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:33:17 I HAVE INFORMED THOM SNELLING
17:33:19 THAT THEY WERE NEXT, AND I SEE
17:33:22 HE'S NOT IN HERE.
17:33:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY'RE
17:33:24 WORKING THEIR WAY IN.
17:33:25 THEY'LL BE IN IN JUST A MINUTE.
17:33:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: GIVE ME NOTICE
17:33:27 NOW.
17:33:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL DO.
17:33:31 YOU WANT TO TAKE ONE MORE ITEM?
17:33:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NO. 7.
17:33:35 >>DAVID HEY: ALL RIGHT.
17:33:37 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
17:33:38 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING
17:33:38 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:33:40 THE NEXT ITEM FOR YOUR REVIEW
17:33:44 IS TAMPA PLAN AMENDMENT 18-04.
17:33:49 IT'S A MAP AMENDMENT.
17:33:52 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN
17:33:52 THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
17:33:54 DISTRICT, MORE SPECIFICALLY
17:33:55 PORT TAMPA CITY.
17:33:56 IT'S DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE
17:33:58 BOUNDARY OF MACDILL AIR FORCE
17:34:00 BASE.
17:34:01 A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
17:34:02 IT IS PRIVATELY INITIATED.
17:34:03 IT IS A SMALL-SCALE MAP
17:34:04 AMENDMENT.
17:34:07 IT'S APPROXIMATELY .23 ACRES IN
17:34:07 SIZE.
17:34:09 CURRENTLY, THE SUBJECT SITE HAS
17:34:11 A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE
17:34:11 CATEGORY.
17:34:13 IT IS VACANT.
17:34:14 THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING
17:34:16 THE RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND
17:34:19 USE CATEGORY.
17:34:20 HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE
17:34:21 SUBJECT SITE.
17:34:22 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS SOUTH
17:34:24 O'BRIEN, THIS IS THE BOUNDARY
17:34:27 OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE,
17:34:29 THESE ARE THE FUEL CONTAINERS
17:34:33 FOR MACDILL, AND YOU CAN SEE
17:34:36 THE PORT TAMPA PARK AND YOU CAN
17:34:37 SEE THE RESIDENTIAL PATTERN.
17:34:39 THERE WAS A LARGE REZONING OVER
17:34:41 HERE RECENTLY THAT IS ALSO
17:34:43 UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
17:34:45 HERE WE HAVE A FEW PHOTOS OF
17:34:49 THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
17:34:50 SURROUNDING AREAS.
17:34:56 EVEN THOUGH THERE IS LIGHT
17:34:57 INDUSTRIAL LOCATED IN THAT
17:35:00 AREA, IT'S PREDOMINANTLY
17:35:01 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
17:35:02 A LOT OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL
17:35:04 IS EITHER OWNED BY THE CITY OF
17:35:05 TAMPA OR IS UNDEVELOPED AND
17:35:08 VACANT.
17:35:09 HERE WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE
17:35:10 LAND USE MAP.
17:35:12 YOU CAN SEE HERE'S THE SUBJECT
17:35:12 SITE.
17:35:14 THE LIGHT GRAY IS THAT LIGHT
17:35:15 INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE
17:35:16 CATEGORY.
17:35:18 THE TAN COLOR IS ALL THAT
17:35:19 RESIDENTIAL-10, AND THEN YOU'VE
17:35:21 GOT THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE
17:35:24 REPRESENTED BY THE GREEN.
17:35:28 HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:35:30 IT DOES GO TO THAT
17:35:33 RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE
17:35:34 CATEGORY.
17:35:35 CURRENTLY, UNDER THE LIGHT
17:35:37 INDUSTRIAL, THERE'S NO
17:35:39 RESIDENTIAL PERMITTED.
17:35:41 NONRESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE
17:35:43 CAN BE CONSIDERED AT A MAXIMUM
17:35:46 OF 15,867 SQUARE FEET.
17:35:48 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10, A
17:35:49 MAXIMUM OF TWO DWELLING UNITS
17:35:52 COULD BE CONSIDERED ON-SITE,
17:35:53 AND THE NONRESIDENTIAL SQUARE
17:35:55 FOOTAGE IS REDUCED DOWN TO
17:35:58 3,000 -- A MAXIMUM OF 3,486
17:35:59 SQUARE FEET.
17:36:02 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:36:05 REVIEWED AND FOUND THAT THE MAP
17:36:06 AMENDMENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL-10
17:36:09 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS
17:36:10 CONSISTENT WITH OUR LIVABLE
17:36:13 CITY AND CITY DESIGN BY
17:36:14 PROVIDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING
17:36:19 OPTIONS.
17:36:22 ALSO IT PROMOTES THE
17:36:23 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
17:36:25 REDEVELOPMENT OF PORT TAMPA BY
17:36:26 REMOVING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL --
17:36:28 THE POTENTIAL FOR LIGHT
17:36:29 INDUSTRIAL USES ACCESSING
17:36:31 THROUGH LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD
17:36:35 RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AND ALSO,
17:36:38 THE COMP PLAN PROMOTES NEW HOME
17:36:39 CONSTRUCTION AND INFILL
17:36:41 DEVELOPMENT.
17:36:42 BASED ON THAT, THE PLANNING
17:36:44 COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT
17:36:47 TA/CPA 18-04 BE FOUND
17:36:48 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
17:36:49 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
17:36:51 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
17:36:52 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT
17:36:55 CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
17:36:56 I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT
17:36:59 IS HERE.
17:37:01 I DON'T SEE THEM, BUT --
17:37:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:37:04 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO
17:37:09 SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 7?
17:37:10 ALL RIGHT.
17:37:10 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:37:12 >> SECOND.
17:37:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:37:15 WE'VE GOT A MOTION FROM
17:37:16 MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
17:37:17 MR. MANISCALCO.
17:37:18 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
17:37:18 AYE.
17:37:20 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:37:34 OKAY.
17:37:36 OH, OH, OKAY.
17:37:38 MR. COHEN.
17:37:38 >>HARRY COHEN: ALL RIGHT.
17:37:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
17:37:41 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
17:37:41 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
17:37:43 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
17:37:45 AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:37:46 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
17:37:47 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
17:37:49 GENERALLY LOCATED AT 7701 SOUTH
17:37:52 O'BRIEN STREET, FROM LIGHT
17:37:53 INDUSTRIAL, LI, TO
17:37:56 RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10, PROVIDING
17:37:58 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
17:37:59 CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
17:37:59 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
17:38:00 EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:38:01 >> SECOND.
17:38:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:38:03 GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN,
17:38:05 SECOND FROM MR. MIRANDA.
17:38:07 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
17:38:08 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:38:09 MOTION CARRIED.
17:38:10 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN
17:38:14 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
17:38:16 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
17:38:18 JULY 19TH AT 9:30 A.M.
17:38:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:38:20 ITEM NO. 8.
17:38:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER
17:38:27 MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
17:38:28 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:38:29 I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM NO. 8,
17:38:30 WHICH IS FUTURE LAND USE MAP
17:38:34 AMENDMENT 18-06.
17:38:36 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE
17:38:37 WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT,
17:38:38 WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
17:38:39 DISTRICT AS WELL.
17:38:40 THIS WILL LOOK VERY FAMILIAR TO
17:38:41 YOU.
17:38:43 IT IS BEING REFERRED TO AS THE
17:38:45 MIDTOWN TAMPA PROJECT.
17:38:46 IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
17:38:48 SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT AT ABOUT
17:38:50 3.56 ACRES, AND THE REQUEST
17:38:52 BEFORE YOU IS FROM COMMUNITY
17:38:55 COMMERCIAL-35 TO REGIONAL MIXED
17:38:57 USE-100.
17:39:00 I HAVE AN AERIAL.
17:39:01 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN
17:39:02 YELLOW.
17:39:03 IT'S THREE PARCELS.
17:39:04 THIS IS INTERSTATE 275.
17:39:08 I HAVE NORTH HIMES AVENUE, AND
17:39:12 THEN NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
17:39:14 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
17:39:15 I HAVE SOME SUBJECT SITE
17:39:16 PICTURES.
17:39:18 THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST,
17:39:23 LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING
17:39:27 NORTHEAST, AND LOOKING EAST.
17:39:31 AS WELL AS EAST OF THE SUBJECT
17:39:32 SITE, THIS IS A SURROUNDING
17:39:34 AREA PICTURE, AND THEN SOUTH OF
17:39:35 THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:39:37 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND
17:39:39 USE MAP.
17:39:41 THE PARCEL CURRENTLY HAS THAT
17:39:43 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL-35 IN THE
17:39:45 RED IN THESE THREE SPOTS.
17:39:47 WE ALSO HAVE REGIONAL MIXED
17:39:49 USE-100 IN THE AREA, THAT'S
17:39:51 THAT DARK PURPLE COLOR, AS WELL
17:39:53 AS THE RESIDENTIAL-10, WHICH IS
17:39:53 THE ORANGE, AND THEN
17:39:54 RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH IS THE
17:39:55 BROWN.
17:39:59 AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE
17:40:01 LAND USE MAP, IF APPROVED
17:40:02 TONIGHT, WHICH WOULD CHANGE
17:40:04 THESE THREE PARCELS TO REGIONAL
17:40:06 MIXED USE-100.
17:40:10 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND
17:40:12 THIS CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER
17:40:14 OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES,
17:40:15 BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I'M
17:40:16 GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE
17:40:17 IMPACTS.
17:40:18 IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE
17:40:20 EXISTING DENSITY FROM 124 UNITS
17:40:24 TO ABOUT 356, AND IT'S GOING TO
17:40:24 REALLY INCREASE THAT FLOOR AREA
17:40:29 RATIO TO ALLOW ABOUT 540,000
17:40:30 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL
17:40:35 OR RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
17:40:36 THIS WAS CONSISTENT WITH
17:40:37 SEVERAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:40:38 POLICIES WITHIN THAT CITY
17:40:40 DESIGN SECTION OF OUR
17:40:41 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS
17:40:42 THE CITY PLANNING STRATEGY.
17:40:44 OUR PLAN SEEKS TO USE OR THE
17:40:46 LIMITED LAND RESOURCES MORE
17:40:48 EFFICIENTLY AND ENCOURAGE
17:40:51 HIGHER COMPACT DENSITY
17:40:52 DEVELOPMENT.
17:40:54 THERE'S POLICIES ABOUT
17:40:55 MIXED-USE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS
17:40:57 AS WELL AS GROWTH.
17:40:58 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO
17:40:59 ACCOMMODATE HOUSEHOLD AND
17:41:00 EMPLOYMENT GROWTH.
17:41:01 THIS IS THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
17:41:02 DISTRICT.
17:41:04 IT'S VERY MUCH A HIGH-GROWTH
17:41:06 AREA OF TAMPA.
17:41:07 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID
17:41:08 FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
17:41:10 GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES
17:41:12 OF THE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
17:41:13 PLAN.
17:41:14 WE SENT IT OUT FOR REVIEW AS
17:41:15 WELL.
17:41:16 CITY OF TAMPA WAS CONSISTENT,
17:41:17 AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY
17:41:20 HAVE ANY COMMENTS TONIGHT, AND
17:41:21 THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
17:41:22 THANK YOU.
17:41:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:41:24 PETITIONER.
17:41:28 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
17:41:29 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
17:41:31 MY NAME IS MARK BENTLEY, 401
17:41:32 EAST JACKSON STREET,
17:41:33 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
17:41:35 THE INTENT HERE IS TO ALLOW A
17:41:37 TRANSFER OF DENSITY OR
17:41:37 INTENSITY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN
17:41:39 APPROVED IN CONNECTION WITH THE
17:41:42 PD FOR THE PROJECT.
17:41:43 KIND OF THE HICCUP HERE IS THAT
17:41:45 THESE TWO CATEGORIES DON'T
17:41:46 ALLOW A TRANSFER OF
17:41:48 ENTITLEMENTS BETWEEN, IT'S JUST
17:41:49 SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR
17:41:50 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO WE'RE
17:41:51 NOT SEEKING ADDITIONAL
17:41:52 ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH THIS
17:41:54 PROCESS, IT'S JUST TO KIND OF
17:41:55 RATIFY WHAT WAS ALREADY
17:41:58 APPROVED THROUGH THE ZONING.
17:42:00 AND OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU
17:42:02 HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AS JENNIFER
17:42:04 INDICATED, THE PLANNING
17:42:04 COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY FOUND IT
17:42:05 CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE GOALS,
17:42:07 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES IN THE
17:42:08 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND MAY I
17:42:11 ADD, MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S
17:42:14 ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL, AND
17:42:15 THAT'S THE END OF MY
17:42:17 PRESENTATION.
17:42:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY COMMENTS
17:42:21 FROM COUNCIL?
17:42:22 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO
17:42:26 SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 8?
17:42:27 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:42:28 >> SECOND.
17:42:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'VE GOT A
17:42:31 MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA -- WHO
17:42:32 SECONDED?
17:42:33 SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
17:42:34 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
17:42:36 AYE.
17:42:36 OPPOSED.
17:42:38 MR. SUAREZ, IF YOU COULD READ
17:42:39 NO. 8.
17:42:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU,
17:42:40 CHAIR.
17:42:41 I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE BEING
17:42:41 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
17:42:43 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
17:42:44 AMENDING THE TAMPA
17:42:45 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
17:42:46 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
17:42:48 GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE
17:42:50 NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF WEST
17:42:51 CYPRESS STREET AND NORTH HIMES
17:42:54 AVENUE, FROM COMMUNITY
17:42:56 COMMERCIAL, CC-35, TO
17:42:58 RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE-100,
17:43:01 RMU-100, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL
17:43:03 OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
17:43:03 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
17:43:04 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:43:05 >> SECOND.
17:43:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:43:06 WE'VE GOT A MOTION FROM
17:43:08 MR. SUAREZ, SECOND FROM
17:43:09 MR. MANISCALCO.
17:43:10 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE
17:43:11 MOTION SAY AYE.
17:43:12 THOSE OPPOSED.
17:43:13 MOTION CARRIES.
17:43:14 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN
17:43:16 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
17:43:17 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
17:43:19 WILL BE ON JULY 19TH AT 9:30
17:43:20 A.M.
17:43:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:43:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: TO THE
17:43:23 AUDIENCE, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE
17:43:24 GOING TO DO.
17:43:26 WE'RE GOING TO DO NO. 9, AND
17:43:30 THEN AFTER NO. 9, WE'RE GOING
17:43:35 TO 1 AND 2, SO GET READY.
17:43:36 NO. 6?
17:43:39 WE DID 6.
17:43:43 SO AFTER WE DO NO. 9, WE'RE
17:43:47 GOING BACK TO 1 AND 2, OKAY?
17:43:48 ALL RIGHT.
17:43:49 NO. 9.
17:44:04 >> GOOD EVENING.
17:44:06 I'M VANESSA MCCLEARY, THE
17:44:08 HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
17:44:09 MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
17:44:10 IT IS TIME AGAIN FOR OUR ANNUAL
17:44:12 ACTION PLAN.
17:44:14 WE CAME TO YOU BACK IN MARCH TO
17:44:16 TALK ABOUT STARTING THE PROCESS
17:44:19 OF DEVELOPING THE ACTION PLAN.
17:44:20 SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE
17:44:23 LEARNED OF OUR AWARDS FROM HUD.
17:44:25 WE WERE SKEPTICAL AS TO WHAT WE
17:44:26 WOULD RECEIVE.
17:44:28 AS YOU CAN SEE, CDBG IS ABOUT A
17:44:30 $400,000 INCREASE OVER LAST
17:44:34 YEAR, HOME IS $1,695,000.
17:44:36 AGAIN, THAT'S ABOUT A $400,000
17:44:39 INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
17:44:42 HOPWA STAYED THE SAME, ESG
17:44:43 STAYED THE SAME.
17:44:44 OUR SHIP ALLOCATION, HOWEVER,
17:44:45 TOOK A MAJOR HIT.
17:44:47 LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED 2.7.
17:44:53 THIS YEAR WE RECEIVED $439,000.
17:44:57 SO WE DEVELOPED A PLAN TO
17:44:59 UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS ALSO USING
17:45:02 ROLLOVER DOLLARS, SO FOR
17:45:02 HOUSING PROJECTS, WE WILL BE
17:45:05 INVESTING ABOUT $5.9 MILLION.
17:45:06 PUBLIC SERVICE, WHICH IS WHERE
17:45:08 WE FUND LOCAL NONPROFITS, IT'LL
17:45:11 BE ABOUT $473,000.
17:45:12 HOUSING COUNSELING -- BECAUSE
17:45:15 ONE OF OUR BIG PUSHES IS
17:45:16 KNOWING THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS
17:45:18 WITH HOUSING PRICES, WE'RE
17:45:20 PUSHING PEOPLE INTO HOME
17:45:20 OWNERSHIP.
17:45:24 WE'RE FUNDING THAT AT $310,000.
17:45:25 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
17:45:30 PERSONS WITH AIDS, $3,700,000.
17:45:31 EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS, WHICH IS
17:45:33 SERVICES TO HOMELESS
17:45:36 INDIVIDUALS, $251,000.
17:45:38 PROGRAM DELIVERY AND OUTREACH,
17:45:40 ABOUT $425,000, AND GRANT
17:45:44 ADMINISTRATION, $973,000.
17:45:46 AT THIS POINT, WE ARE JUST
17:45:48 OPENING UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT
17:45:51 PERIOD, IF ANYONE WISHES TO
17:45:52 COMMENT.
17:45:53 THE ACTUAL PLAN ALONG WITH
17:45:55 COMMENTS, THEY CAN GO TO OUR
17:45:57 WEB PAGE, WHICH IS
17:46:03 TAMPAGOV.NET/HCD FOR HOUSING
17:46:04 AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OR
17:46:06 THEY CAN EMAIL COMMENTS TO ME.
17:46:08 THIS IS ADVERTISED IN THE
17:46:10 NEWSPAPER AS WELL AS WE'LL BE
17:46:12 SENDING OUT EMAIL BLASTS AND
17:46:14 OUR ALERT TAMPA BLAST TO ALLOW
17:46:16 PEOPLE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON
17:46:18 THE PLAN.
17:46:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS
17:46:21 OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
17:46:23 OKAY.
17:46:24 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO
17:46:29 SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 9?
17:46:31 >> SHERYL BROWN, TAMPA
17:46:33 LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND.
17:46:33 RIGHT HERE?
17:46:35 OKAY.
17:46:38 I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE
17:46:41 CITY OF TAMPA CDBG SUPPORT OVER
17:46:43 THE YEARS, AND THE LAST TWO
17:46:44 YEARS OR LAST YEAR AND THEN
17:46:46 THIS YEAR, THEY'VE GONE FROM
17:46:47 MULTIPLE GRANTS TO JUST A
17:46:51 COUPLE OF A $100,000 GRANTS,
17:46:53 AND SO THAT'S ELIMINATED A LOT
17:46:53 OF US.
17:46:55 WE DID GET THE 100 LAST YEAR
17:46:56 BUT WERE ELIMINATED THIS YEAR,
17:46:58 SO I WOULD HOPE DOWN THE ROAD
17:47:00 THAT YOU ALL WOULD LOOK AT
17:47:01 MAYBE INSTEAD OF JUST DOING TWO
17:47:06 OR THREE $100,000 GRANTS TO GET
17:47:08 BACK TO FUNDING SO MANY OF THE
17:47:10 SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES OUT
17:47:11 THERE THAT NEED THE SUPPORT,
17:47:12 AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE
17:47:14 SUPPORT WE GET THROUGH THE CITY
17:47:18 AND THE COUNTY BECAUSE EVERY
17:47:19 BIT HELPS.
17:47:20 THAT'S IT.
17:47:21 >>HARRY COHEN: YOU'RE FROM THE
17:47:23 LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND?
17:47:24 >> I AM, YES, SIR.
17:47:25 YEAH.
17:47:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
17:47:26 THANK YOU.
17:47:27 >> THANK YOU.
17:47:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:47:29 ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON
17:47:30 ITEM NO. 9.
17:47:31 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
17:47:32 >> SECOND.
17:47:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:47:33 I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM
17:47:35 MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY
17:47:35 MR. MANISCALCO.
17:47:37 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
17:47:39 WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE NO ACTION
17:47:41 ON THIS, NO. 9?
17:47:42 >> NO ACTION.
17:47:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:47:50 WE'LL GO TO NO. 1.
17:47:51 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING,
17:47:52 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
17:47:55 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING
17:47:55 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:47:57 THE NEXT ITEM FOR YOUR REVIEW
17:48:01 IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR
17:48:11 TEXT AMENDMENT 18-03.
17:48:12 A LITTLE BACKGROUND REGARDING
17:48:13 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
17:48:14 IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
17:48:16 REQUEST.
17:48:18 THE AMENDMENT DEALS WITH
17:48:18 SPECIFIC COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
17:48:23 LANGUAGE FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT
17:48:23 PENINSULA.
17:48:27 THERE'S THREE MAIN AREAS OF
17:48:28 CHANGES.
17:48:29 THE FIRST REMOVES LANGUAGE
17:48:31 REFERENCES THE COMMUNITY MIXED
17:48:32 USE-35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY
17:48:32 AND PROVIDES LANGUAGE
17:48:34 REFERENCING ANY FUTURE LAND USE
17:48:36 CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS FOR
17:48:41 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
17:48:44 THE OTHER TWO CHANGES, THE
17:48:45 SECOND ONE ENSURES THAT ANY
17:48:46 PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL
17:48:47 DEVELOPMENT LOCATED IN
17:48:49 PROXIMITY TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
17:48:51 USES ON RATTLESNAKE POINT
17:48:53 DEMONSTRATES THROUGH DESIGN AND
17:48:54 ACCEPTED PRACTICES THAT
17:48:55 RESIDENTS WOULD NOT BE AT RISK
17:48:59 BY LOCATING NEAR HEAVY
17:49:01 INDUSTRIAL USES.
17:49:04 AND THE LAST CHANGE MAKES MINOR
17:49:05 CORRECTIONS TO CORRECT OR
17:49:07 CLARIFY EXISTING POLICY
17:49:08 LANGUAGE IN THE RATTLESNAKE
17:49:12 POINT LANGUAGE.
17:49:13 AS PART OF THE PLANNING
17:49:16 COMMISSION REVIEW PROCESS, THE
17:49:16 PLANNING COMMISSION ALWAYS
17:49:19 LOOKS AT WAYS TO CLARIFY THE
17:49:21 PROPOSED TEXT.
17:49:22 PLANNING COMMISSION'S FORMAL
17:49:23 RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAKE A
17:49:27 CHANGE TO LAND USE OBJECTIVE
17:49:29 8.11.
17:49:29 PLANNING COMMISSION
17:49:30 RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO
17:49:31 INCLUDE A DISTANCE FROM
17:49:33 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD SO AS TO
17:49:35 BETTER DEFINE WHAT PROPERTIES
17:49:37 WOULD CONTINUE TO COMPROMISE
17:49:40 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT
17:49:41 WATERFRONT AREA.
17:49:43 THE PROPOSED -- THE PROPOSAL OF
17:49:45 THE -- THE PROPOSAL OF THE
17:49:45 PLANNING COMMISSION
17:49:47 RECOMMENDATION IS TO EXEMPT ALL
17:49:48 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE
17:49:51 HISTORICALLY BEEN DESIGNATED AS
17:49:52 URBAN MIXED USE-60.
17:49:53 THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED TEXT IS
17:49:55 PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET FOR
17:49:59 YOUR REVIEW.
17:50:00 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAS
17:50:02 REVIEWED THE PROPOSED PLAN
17:50:04 AMENDMENT AND FOUND THE REQUEST
17:50:05 CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER OF
17:50:07 ADOPTED POLICIES WITHIN THE
17:50:09 PLAN.
17:50:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LANGUAGE
17:50:11 RECOGNIZES THE POTENTIAL ISSUES
17:50:15 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES POSE TO
17:50:16 RESIDENTIAL USES AND
17:50:17 DISCOURAGES THE PLACEMENT OF
17:50:18 LOCATING RESIDENTIAL USES
17:50:21 WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO HEAVY
17:50:24 INDUSTRIAL USES.
17:50:25 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO
17:50:26 PROMOTES OVERALL PUBLIC SAFETY
17:50:28 AND ENSURING THAT ANY NEGATIVE
17:50:30 IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH
17:50:31 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE
17:50:32 MITIGATED FOR IN THE
17:50:33 DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
17:50:34 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE PROVIDES
17:50:36 FOR AN APPROPRIATE FRAMEWORK
17:50:38 FOR THE TRANSITION OF THE
17:50:39 RATTLESNAKE POINT PENINSULA
17:50:41 FROM AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TO A
17:50:42 MORE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT
17:50:43 PATTERN WHILE ALSO ENSURING
17:50:45 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS
17:50:47 DESIGNED AND PREPARED FOR ANY
17:50:49 POTENTIAL HAZARDOUS SITUATION
17:50:51 REGARDING THE PROXIMITY OF
17:50:53 DIFFERENT USES.
17:51:00 THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
17:51:01 THEREFORE, RECOMMENDS THAT THE
17:51:02 PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT,
17:51:03 INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE PROPOSED
17:51:05 BY YOUR STAFF, BE FOUND
17:51:06 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
17:51:07 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
17:51:09 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
17:51:10 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:51:13 I DO WANT TO ALSO ENTER IN THE
17:51:18 RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE
17:51:19 PLANNING COMMISSION, INCLUDING
17:51:20 A STAFF TEXT RECOMMENDATION
17:51:22 THAT FURTHER DEFINED THOSE
17:51:23 PROPERTIES CONSIDERED ON THE
17:51:25 RATTLESNAKE POINT PENINSULA,
17:51:27 USING A DISTANCE OF 1,300 FEET
17:51:30 FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF
17:51:31 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
17:51:33 SUBSEQUENTLY, AFTER THE
17:51:36 HEARING, A REQUEST FOR A FORMAL
17:51:37 DETERMINATION REGARDING THE
17:51:39 DISTANCE WAS MADE TO THE
17:51:40 PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH
17:51:40 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PROVIDED
17:51:42 FOR CONSIDERATION.
17:51:43 BASED ON THE INFORMATION
17:51:45 PROVIDED, PLANNING COMMISSION
17:51:47 STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL
17:51:48 CONSIDER AMENDING THE DISTANCE
17:51:51 TO 1,600 FEET.
17:51:54 THIS CHANGE HAS NO EFFECT ON
17:51:54 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:51:55 RECOMMENDATION OF CONSISTENCY.
17:51:59 I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME
17:52:00 EITHER THE APPLICANT OR
17:52:02 INTERESTED PARTIES THAT WILL
17:52:03 ALSO DISCUSS THAT IN THEIR
17:52:04 PRESENTATION, BUT THAT
17:52:06 CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
17:52:08 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS --
17:52:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
17:52:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU,
17:52:10 CHAIR.
17:52:11 MR. HEY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
17:52:11 YOU.
17:52:13 CAN YOU GO BACK ONE PAGE TO THE
17:52:14 CONSISTENCY REVIEW?
17:52:15 >>DAVID HEY: SURE, IF I CAN
17:52:17 FIND IT.
17:52:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU CAN PUT IT
17:52:22 UPSIDE DOWN EVEN.
17:52:23 >>DAVID HEY: THIS ONE?
17:52:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH.
17:52:25 YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ASK YOU A
17:52:26 QUICK QUESTION.
17:52:27 YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE
17:52:31 ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY, NE 1.1.3,
17:52:33 AND THAT SAYS -- AND I DON'T
17:52:34 HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
17:52:36 I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT SAY IN
17:52:41 TERMS OF DISTANCE TO COULD
17:52:42 ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY.
17:52:43 I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT FOR A
17:52:45 REASON.
17:52:47 >>DAVID HEY: 1.1.3.
17:52:49 IT SAYS CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE
17:52:51 DESIGN OF COMPLETE AND
17:52:52 WELL-STRUCTURED NEIGHBORHOODS
17:52:54 WHOSE PHYSICAL LAYOUT AND LAND
17:52:56 USE MIX PROMOTE WALKING,
17:52:57 BIKING, TRANSIT, REDUCED
17:52:59 VEHICLE TRIPS, FOSTER A
17:53:02 COMMUNITY PRIDE, ENHANCE
17:53:03 NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY, ENSURE
17:53:05 PUBLIC SAFETY, FAMILY-FRIENDLY,
17:53:06 AND ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF ALL
17:53:07 AGES AND ABILITIES.
17:53:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE REASON I WAS
17:53:10 ASKING YOU THAT IS BECAUSE I
17:53:11 DON'T THINK THAT YOU SAID THAT
17:53:13 ON ONE OF OUR EARLIER -- WHEN
17:53:14 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PORT
17:53:17 TAMPA CITY, PORT TAMPA, YOU
17:53:18 KNOW, IN TERMS OF ENSURE
17:53:19 SAFETY.
17:53:21 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY
17:53:22 LINE BETWEEN MACDILL AIR FORCE
17:53:24 BASE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
17:53:26 REMEMBER SEEING THOSE REALLY
17:53:27 BIG JET FUEL CONTAINERS.
17:53:28 >>DAVID HEY: YES.
17:53:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND I THINK THAT
17:53:31 THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT THERE'S
17:53:33 A CHEMICAL PLANT THAT'S NEAR
17:53:33 THERE.
17:53:34 WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT THAT AS PART
17:53:36 OF YOUR PRESENTATION?
17:53:38 >>DAVID HEY: THE WAY STAFF
17:53:40 LOOKS AT IT, THAT AREA DOES NOT
17:53:41 HAVE SPECIFIC POLICY LANGUAGE
17:53:43 REGARDING DEVELOPMENT ON THAT
17:53:44 PENINSULA.
17:53:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
17:53:46 >>DAVID HEY: IT'S UNIQUE THAT
17:53:47 RATTLESNAKE POINT HAS LANGUAGE
17:53:49 THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED
17:53:50 THROUGH A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT
17:53:54 BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS OUT
17:53:56 THERE AND THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S
17:53:58 OFFICE, BACK ABOUT 12 YEARS
17:53:59 AGO, I THINK.
17:53:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: ALL RIGHT.
17:54:01 >>DAVID HEY: THAT'S WHY IT'S
17:54:02 LOOKED AT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY
17:54:04 IS BECAUSE OF THAT LANGUAGE.
17:54:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
17:54:06 BUT, I MEAN, WE STILL WANT TO
17:54:08 ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY; RIGHT?
17:54:09 >>DAVID HEY: YES.
17:54:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANTED TO
17:54:11 MAKE SURE.
17:54:13 >>DAVID HEY: THAT WAY THEY
17:54:15 CLEARLY HAVE A WAY OUT.
17:54:16 THIS WAY -- ALSO REGARDING --
17:54:17 THAT'S WHY STAFF ALSO PROPOSED
17:54:19 THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT THE
17:54:23 DISTANCE BECAUSE WE CLEARLY
17:54:25 NOTICED IN OUR REVIEW THAT THE
17:54:27 WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT HAS
17:54:29 NEVER BEEN A PART OR CONSIDERED
17:54:30 A PART OF THAT RATTLESNAKE
17:54:32 POINT AREA, SO --
17:54:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT SOUNDS TO ME
17:54:35 -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG
17:54:36 -- THAT YOU DID THE BEST YOU
17:54:38 COULD BASED ON THE EXISTING
17:54:41 LANGUAGE THAT WAS ALREADY PART
17:54:42 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?
17:54:44 >>DAVID HEY: CORRECT.
17:54:45 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT LANGUAGE
17:54:46 IS VERY UNIQUE.
17:54:47 [LAUGHTER]
17:54:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S A GOOD
17:54:48 WAY TO PUT IT.
17:54:50 THANK YOU, MR. HEY.
17:54:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
17:54:54 ANYTHING FURTHER?
17:54:56 OKAY.
17:54:57 THE APPLICANT.
17:55:06 >> GOOD EVENING.
17:55:08 ANDREA ZELMAN, BUCHANAN
17:55:11 INGERSOLL ROONEY, 401 EAST
17:55:12 JACKSON STREET.
17:55:14 MY CLIENT IS ALLIED HOLDINGS
17:55:16 CORPORATION, WHICH IS THE OWNER
17:55:17 OF CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, WHICH
17:55:19 YOU'LL HEAR ME TO REFER TO TO
17:55:22 SAVE TIME AS CFI, AND GANDY
17:55:25 VIEW REALTY, AND CFI HAS, SINCE
17:55:28 1996, OPERATED A FACILITY IN
17:55:29 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT
17:55:31 WATERFRONT AREA THAT
17:55:33 MANUFACTURES CHLORINE BLEACH
17:55:35 THAT'S USED FOR WATER TREATMENT
17:55:36 THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
17:55:37 FLORIDA, AND SOME OF THIS YOU
17:55:39 HEARD BEFORE AT A HEARING IN
17:55:41 NOVEMBER, AS WE TOLD YOU.
17:55:43 CFI IS CONSIDERED TO PROVIDE AN
17:55:44 ESSENTIAL SERVICE TO OUR STATE.
17:55:46 IT'S THE ONLY PLANT OF ITS KIND
17:55:48 ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA,
17:55:50 AND IT PROVIDES 85% OF THE
17:55:51 WATER TREATMENT CHEMICALS USED
17:55:53 ON THE WEST COAST.
17:55:54 IT HAS CONTRACTS WITH CITIES
17:55:56 AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE
17:55:58 STATE TO KEEP PUBLIC DRINKING
17:56:01 WATER SAFE, INCLUDING THE CITY
17:56:02 OF TAMPA.
17:56:04 AGAIN, CFI HAS BEEN ON
17:56:07 RATTLESNAKE POINT SINCE 1996,
17:56:09 AFTER THE SITE WAS MARKETED TO
17:56:12 INDUSTRIAL USERS AND INVESTED
17:56:13 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ITS
17:56:16 FACILITY THERE, AND CFI
17:56:20 PARTICULARLY CHOSE THIS SITE
17:56:21 AND LIKES THIS SITE BECAUSE
17:56:22 THEY HAVE PROXIMITY TO BOTH
17:56:24 RAIL, WHICH RUNS ALONG TYSON
17:56:27 AVENUE SOUTH OF THE SITE, AND
17:56:28 WATER, AND THEY HAVE A PIPELINE
17:56:31 THAT TRANSPORTS MATERIALS, AND
17:56:32 THEY RELY ON BOTH THE RAIL AND
17:56:35 THE WATER TO BRING IN MATERIALS
17:56:38 TO THE FACILITY, AND THEY HAVE
17:56:40 NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO FIND
17:56:41 ANOTHER SITE IN TAMPA THAT
17:56:43 WOULD PROVIDE THE SAME KIND OF
17:56:48 WATER AND RAIL ACCESS.
17:56:49 THE RAIL LINES BRING IN THE
17:56:53 HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS AT NIGHT TO
17:56:55 THE SITE, AND THEY DO MUCH OF
17:56:57 THEIR CHLORINE PRODUCTION WORK
17:56:59 AT NIGHT AS WELL.
17:57:00 AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE
17:57:03 TO UNDERSTAND THE DANGERS POSED
17:57:05 BY THE CHEMICALS AT THE
17:57:05 FACILITY.
17:57:06 YOU CAN'T TAKE THEM LIGHTLY.
17:57:09 CFI'S PLAN IS REGULATED BY THE
17:57:10 U.S. COAST GUARD MARITIME
17:57:12 SECURITY SYSTEM.
17:57:13 IT'S ALSO SUBJECT TO THE
17:57:14 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
17:57:17 CHEMICAL FACILITY ANTITERRORISM
17:57:19 STANDARDS, AND I'M NOT TRYING
17:57:21 TO BE AN ALARMIST, BUT CHLORINE
17:57:22 GAS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
17:57:29 CONSIDERED A TERRORIST TARGET.
17:57:30 IT'S AN EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS
17:57:32 SUBSTANCE AND ARE REQUIRED TO
17:57:33 SUBMIT INFORMATION TO, AMONG
17:57:35 OTHERS, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
17:57:36 OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
17:57:37 AND THAT'S WHY CFI KEEPS
17:57:40 SPEAKING OUT AT THESE HEARINGS.
17:57:42 WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
17:57:43 EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE RISK
17:57:46 POSED BY RESIDENTIAL
17:57:47 DEVELOPMENT NEAR THE PLANT.
17:57:51 NOW, THE PLAN AMENDMENT TONIGHT
17:57:52 -- AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY A
17:57:54 TRANSMITTAL HEARING, YOU'RE NOT
17:57:55 BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IT, BUT
17:57:57 YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO TRANSMIT
17:57:58 IT TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW, AND
17:57:59 IT'S A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT
17:58:01 REALLY MAKES RELATIVELY MINOR
17:58:03 CHANGES, BUT WE BELIEVE THEY'RE
17:58:05 IMPORTANT CHANGES TO THE
17:58:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES
17:58:08 THAT APPLY TO RATTLESNAKE
17:58:09 POINT.
17:58:12 AND, AGAIN, A LITTLE HISTORY.
17:58:16 IN 2006 AND 2007, AFTER A BIG
17:58:17 DISPUTE, THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT
17:58:18 AGREEMENT WHERE -- OR
17:58:19 SETTLEMENT ARRANGEMENT WHERE
17:58:21 THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY
17:58:24 OWNERS ON RATTLESNAKE POINT GOT
17:58:27 TOGETHER AND ADOPTED POLICIES
17:58:28 THAT WERE SPECIFIC TO
17:58:30 RATTLESNAKE POINT, AND THEY
17:58:31 RECOGNIZED THAT RATTLESNAKE
17:58:32 POINT IS UNIQUE.
17:58:33 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT WAS
17:58:35 MARKETED TO INDUSTRIAL USERS,
17:58:36 SO IT DEVELOPED OUT WITH A LOT
17:58:38 OF INDUSTRIAL USES.
17:58:39 IN ADDITION, THERE'S ONLY A
17:58:40 SINGLE TWO-LANE ROAD THAT GOES
17:58:41 IN AND OUT TO RATTLESNAKE
17:58:44 POINT, TYSON AVENUE, AND,
17:58:46 AGAIN, THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK
17:58:48 RUNNING ALONG TYSON THAT BRINGS
17:58:50 THE INDUSTRIAL MATERIAL -- THE
17:58:51 MATERIALS INTO THE INDUSTRIAL
17:58:52 USERS.
17:58:55 SO, AGAIN, BACK IN 2006-2007,
17:58:57 MY CLIENT AND ALL THE OTHER
17:58:57 PROPERTY OWNERS ON RATTLESNAKE
17:59:01 POINT DEVELOPED THE
17:59:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES
17:59:04 THAT APPLIED TO RATTLESNAKE
17:59:07 POINT, AND AT THAT TIME, THEY
17:59:10 DID TALK ABOUT HOW IT WAS THE
17:59:11 CITY'S INTENT TO EVENTUALLY
17:59:14 TRANSITION RATTLESNAKE POINT
17:59:16 FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED-USE,
17:59:18 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
17:59:19 UNDERSTAND THEY USED THE WORD
17:59:20 -- YOU USED THE WORDS
17:59:23 "EVENTUAL" AND "TRANSITION."
17:59:24 THERE WAS ALWAYS THE
17:59:26 UNDERSTANDING, AND, IN FACT,
17:59:28 THERE WAS EXPRESS LANGUAGE THAT
17:59:29 SAID UNTIL THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
17:59:32 USES WERE GONE, THERE WOULD NOT
17:59:34 BE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON
17:59:35 RATTLESNAKE POINT, AND THE CITY
17:59:37 WAS ALSO SUPPOSED TO DEVELOP A
17:59:39 TRANSITION PLAN, AND,
17:59:40 UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DIDN'T
17:59:40 HAPPEN.
17:59:43 AND THEN IN 2016, THIS COUNCIL
17:59:44 APPROVED AN AMENDMENT THAT
17:59:45 ALTERED THAT LANGUAGE AT THE
17:59:47 REQUEST OF ONE OF THE PROPERTY
17:59:49 OWNERS, AND THAT LANGUAGE MADE
17:59:51 IT EASIER FOR THE PROPERTIES ON
17:59:53 RATTLESNAKE POINT TO DEVELOP
17:59:54 RESIDENTIAL USES.
17:59:56 MY CLIENT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN
17:59:59 THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
18:00:00 AND WE LOOKED AT THE LANGUAGE
18:00:02 THAT WAS ADOPTED, AND WE THINK
18:00:03 IT JUST NEEDS SOME MINOR
18:00:04 CHANGES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
18:00:06 PROPOSING TONIGHT.
18:00:08 SO, AGAIN, AS DAVID SAID, IF
18:00:10 YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN AMENDMENT,
18:00:12 IT'S REALLY VERY
18:00:13 STRAIGHTFORWARD.
18:00:15 WE JUST ARE CHANGING THE
18:00:16 LANGUAGE.
18:00:17 RIGHT NOW IT READS THAT THE
18:00:20 POLICIES THAT REQUIRE A
18:00:24 DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE PROTECTION
18:00:26 TO FUTURE RESIDENTS ONLY APPLY
18:00:29 TO THOSE WITH THE CMU-35 LAND
18:00:30 USE PLAN CATEGORY.
18:00:32 WE THINK THE INTENT WAS TO
18:00:34 PROVIDE THOSE -- OF THIS
18:00:35 COUNCIL WAS TO PROVIDE
18:00:37 PROTECTIONS TO ANYONE WHO
18:00:38 DEVELOPS RESIDENTIAL USES
18:00:40 BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IRRELEVANT
18:00:43 WHETHER IT'S UMU-35 OR UMU-60
18:00:46 OR UMU-40 OR WHATEVER, BUT WE
18:00:47 -- SO WE JUST ARE CHANGING THAT
18:00:49 TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ANY
18:00:51 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
18:00:55 AND THEN IN 8.11.5, AGAIN, IN
18:00:58 2016, YOU ADDED LANGUAGE SAYING
18:01:00 THAT ONLY DEVELOPMENT THAT
18:01:03 ABUTS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USERS
18:01:05 SHOULD HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE
18:01:07 THROUGH DESIGN AND ACCEPTED
18:01:08 PRACTICES THAT NEW OCCUPANTS
18:01:09 WON'T BE PUT AT RISK.
18:01:12 WELL, WE THINK IT SHOULD BE
18:01:13 ANYONE WITHIN THE RATTLESNAKE
18:01:16 POINT WATERFRONT AREA BECAUSE
18:01:18 IF, HEAVEN FORBID, THERE WAS A
18:01:19 CHEMICAL LEAK, IT DOESN'T
18:01:21 RECOGNIZE PROPERTY LINES.
18:01:23 IT WOULD NOT ONLY AFFECT
18:01:25 PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING
18:01:27 THE PLANT BUT WOULD PRESUMABLY
18:01:29 GO MUCH FARTHER.
18:01:31 THAT'S ALL THAT THIS PLAN
18:01:32 AMENDMENT DOES.
18:01:33 NOW, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR A
18:01:36 SEPARATE ZONING CODE TEXT
18:01:36 AMENDMENT.
18:01:38 THAT IS NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
18:01:41 IT'S STILL BEING REVIEWED BY
18:01:43 CATHY COYLE WHO I SAW FLOATING
18:01:44 AROUND HERE.
18:01:47 I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE IT'S
18:01:48 COMING TO YOU, SO I WOULD ASK
18:01:50 THAT YOU NOT -- I THINK THERE
18:01:52 MAY BE COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT
18:01:53 ABOUT ITEMS THAT MAY ULTIMATELY
18:01:55 BE INCLUDED IN THAT ZONING CODE
18:01:56 TEXT AMENDMENT, BUT THAT REALLY
18:01:57 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S
18:01:58 IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
18:01:59 WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT
18:02:01 IS CONTAINED ON THE SINGLE PAGE
18:02:03 THAT YOU HAVE.
18:02:06 AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STOP
18:02:08 ALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
18:02:09 ANYWHERE ON RATTLESNAKE POINT,
18:02:12 WE JUST WANT TO IMPROVE THE
18:02:14 POLICIES THAT APPLY TO SUCH
18:02:16 DEVELOPMENT TO BETTER PROTECT
18:02:17 PEOPLE BECAUSE TO DO OTHERWISE
18:02:20 WOULD PUT THIS COUNCIL IN THE
18:02:21 POSITION OF PUTTING RESIDENTS
18:02:26 IN A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.
18:02:28 THE PLAN AMENDMENT'S SUPPORTED
18:02:30 BY YOUR STAFF, BY PLANNING
18:02:31 COMMISSION STAFF, BY EPC.
18:02:33 AGAIN, ALL YOU'RE BEING ASKED
18:02:35 TO DO TONIGHT IS TRANSMIT.
18:02:36 DAVID MENTIONED THE LANGUAGE
18:02:39 THAT DEFINES THE RATTLESNAKE
18:02:42 POINT WATERFRONT AREA TO NOT
18:02:44 INCLUDE THE WESTSHORE MARINA
18:02:45 DISTRICT, WHICH IS ENCOMPASSED
18:02:49 IN THAT FIRST 1600 FEET WEST OF
18:02:50 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
18:02:51 WE AGREE WITH THAT.
18:02:53 THAT PROPERTY IS DIFFERENT AND
18:02:53 UNIQUE.
18:02:57 IT HAS MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS
18:02:59 IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION
18:03:01 AND ALSO WAS HISTORICALLY NOT
18:03:02 CONSIDERED PART OF THE
18:03:05 RATTLESNAKE POINT WATERFRONT
18:03:08 AREA BACK IN 2006-2007 WHEN
18:03:10 THESE SPECIAL POLICIES FOR
18:03:12 RATTLESNAKE POINT WERE ADOPTED.
18:03:13 I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALLOW ME
18:03:14 SOME ADDITIONAL TIME FOR
18:03:17 REBUTTAL AFTER THE OPPONENTS
18:03:19 SPEAK, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
18:03:19 ANY QUESTIONS.
18:03:23 THANK YOU.
18:03:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU HAVEN'T
18:03:25 COMPLETED YOUR ORIGINAL TIME.
18:03:26 >> I'M SORRY?
18:03:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU HAVEN'T
18:03:28 COMPLETED YOUR ORIGINAL TIME
18:03:28 YET.
18:03:30 >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
18:03:31 I'M SORRY.
18:03:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: THE GREEN
18:03:34 LIGHT WAS STILL ON, SO YOU
18:03:35 HAVEN'T FINISHED --
18:03:36 >> THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO
18:03:38 SAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE
18:03:39 OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT SHOULD
18:03:41 SOMEONE RAISE ANY ISSUES THAT I
18:03:41 WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
18:03:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU'LL HAVE
18:03:43 THAT OPPORTUNITY.
18:03:44 >> THANK YOU.
18:03:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL TAKE
18:03:46 THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
18:03:46 >> THANK YOU.
18:03:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:03:50 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO
18:03:52 SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 1?
18:03:53 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
18:03:53 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
18:03:56 MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
18:04:01 MY ADDRESS IS 305 SOUTH TAMPA
18:04:03 BOULEVARD, TAMPA FLORIDA.
18:04:11 I'M HERE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER
18:04:12 THAT'S TO THE WEST OF THE
18:04:14 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS' PROPERTY
18:04:16 TOWARD THE END OF RATTLESNAKE
18:04:17 POINT.
18:04:19 WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO OPPOSE
18:04:20 THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
18:04:22 IT IS, WE BELIEVE, INCONSISTENT
18:04:23 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
18:04:25 BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
18:04:28 ENCOURAGES THE TRANSITION FROM
18:04:31 INDUSTRIAL USES TO MIXED-USE
18:04:34 AND RESIDENTIAL USES, AND I'LL
18:04:36 EXPLAIN THAT IN A MINUTE.
18:04:37 I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH A
18:04:39 LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
18:04:44 AS FAR BACK AS 1988, THIS
18:04:45 COUNCIL -- NOT THIS PARTICULAR
18:04:48 COUNCIL BUT A CITY COUNCIL --
18:04:51 DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS A
18:04:51 WATERFRONT REDEVELOPMENT
18:04:54 DISTRICT, AND IT WAS CALLED THE
18:04:56 GANDY GATEWAY, SO WE DIDN'T
18:04:59 INVENT THIS IDEA IN 2006, AS
18:05:02 SUGGESTED BY THE APPLICANT,
18:05:03 THIS HAS BEEN AN IDEA BREWING
18:05:05 AT THE CITY FOR QUITE SOMETIME,
18:05:07 THAT THE AREA NEEDED THE
18:05:10 TRANSITION TO MIXED-USE AND
18:05:13 RESIDENTIAL; HOWEVER, BACK IN
18:05:14 2006, WE DID HAVE AMENDMENT --
18:05:16 AN AMENDMENT WHICH SPECIFICALLY
18:05:18 ADOPTED A POLICY THAT
18:05:21 ENCOURAGED RESIDENTIAL
18:05:22 DEVELOPMENT.
18:05:24 SINCE 2006, YOU'VE AMENDED THE
18:05:27 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEVEN TIMES.
18:05:28 EVERY ONE OF THOSE DECISIONS
18:05:33 WERE TO SUPPORT THE TRANSITION
18:05:35 FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL
18:05:39 AND MIXED-USE.
18:05:41 WHAT THE APPLICANT JUST SAID
18:05:42 TONIGHT, THAT -- THE MOTIVE
18:05:46 BEHIND THIS IS TO FILE A TEXT
18:05:47 AMENDMENT TO THE LAND
18:05:48 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
18:05:49 SHE SUGGESTS THAT IT'S
18:05:51 IRRELEVANT, BUT IT'S NOT
18:05:53 IRRELEVANT BECAUSE THERE'S NO
18:05:55 PURPOSE FOR THIS PLAN AMENDMENT
18:05:57 TONIGHT IF THE TEXT AMENDMENT
18:05:59 TO THE ZONING CODE IS
18:06:01 INAPPROPRIATE, AND WHAT THE
18:06:03 TEXT AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN
18:06:06 FILED BY THE APPLICANT SAYS IS
18:06:08 THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS
18:06:11 MUST NOTIFY EVERY RESIDENT OF
18:06:14 THE HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS WHICH
18:06:16 EXIST ON RATTLESNAKE POINT,
18:06:18 PRESUMABLY DUE TO THE
18:06:19 ACTIVITIES OF CHEMICAL
18:06:23 FORMULATORS.
18:06:25 THIS TEXT AMENDMENT ALSO
18:06:28 REQUIRES THAT THE RESIDENTIAL
18:06:29 DEVELOPERS ADOPT AN EVACUATION
18:06:31 PLAN.
18:06:31 WE THINK IT'S HIGHLY
18:06:35 INAPPROPRIATE AND INCONSISTENT
18:06:37 WITH THE PLAN TO SHIFT THE
18:06:39 BURDEN FROM CHEMICAL FORMULATOR
18:06:42 TO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER.
18:06:43 WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS
18:06:45 INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY
18:06:47 THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS APPROVED
18:06:51 TIME AND TIME AGAIN SINCE 1988.
18:06:55 THANK YOU.
18:07:37 >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN,
18:07:40 COUNCIL MEMBERS, BRUCE KASCHYK,
18:07:41 GENESIS GROUP.
18:07:42 I'VE BEEN A CERTIFIED PLANNER
18:07:44 IN THE AREA FOR OVER 35 YEARS
18:07:45 NOW.
18:07:46 I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE
18:07:47 ABOUT THE LAND USE
18:07:48 CONSIDERATIONS AND FOLLOWING UP
18:07:53 ON MR. MECHANIK'S COMMENTS.
18:07:55 THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN,
18:07:56 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, IS
18:07:58 LOCATED OUTLINED IN THE RED
18:07:59 THERE AT THE CENTER OF THE
18:07:59 PROPERTY.
18:08:02 IT'S ONE OF ABOUT 14 PARCELS
18:08:05 THAT CREATE RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:08:08 IT IS ABOUT 6% OF THE TOTAL
18:08:11 LAND AREA OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:08:17 FROM A FUTURE LAND USE
18:08:27 PERSPECTIVE.
18:08:28 THE PROPERTY -- AGAIN, THE
18:08:29 APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS THE HI
18:08:32 OUTLINED IN THE RED THERE, AND
18:08:35 IT IS, AGAIN, ABOUT 6% OF THE
18:08:36 PROPERTY.
18:08:38 74% OF RATTLESNAKE POINT IS
18:08:43 DESIGNATED SMU-35.
18:08:44 THE OTHER USES THAT ARE
18:08:47 DESIGNATED HI ARE THE U.S. ARMY
18:08:49 CORPS TRAINING CENTER AND THE
18:08:51 HULA BAY RESTAURANT AND MARINA.
18:08:52 TO THE EAST OF THAT IS THE
18:08:54 WESTSHORE MARINA AND WESTSHORE
18:08:55 YACHT CLUB TO THE SOUTHEAST.
18:08:57 THE SMU-35 IS A MIXED-USE
18:08:57 CATEGORY.
18:09:02 IT ALLOWS FOR A -- BASICALLY A
18:09:06 MIXED-USE -- USES UP TO A 1.5
18:09:07 F.A.R.
18:09:08 OF COURSE, OFFICES, COMMERCIAL,
18:09:09 AND RESIDENTIAL.
18:09:10 IF YOU WERE TO JUST APPLY THE
18:09:11 1.5 F.A.R. TO THE CURRENTLY
18:09:14 APPROVED SMU-35 OUT THERE, THAT
18:09:17 EQUATES TO ALMOST FIVE MILLION
18:09:18 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT.
18:09:19 CONSERVATIVELY, IF YOU WERE TO
18:09:20 SAY, OKAY, TAKE THE FIVE
18:09:22 MILLION SQUARE FEET, DIVIDE IT
18:09:24 BY 550 FEET PER EMPLOYEE, WHICH
18:09:27 IS VERY CONSERVATIVE, AND IT'S
18:09:28 AROUND 250 SQUARE FEET PER
18:09:30 EMPLOYEE, THAT WOULD MEAN TODAY
18:09:32 THAT AREA COULD EMPLOY 9,000
18:09:34 PEOPLE, AND SO THAT IS REALLY
18:09:36 KIND OF ONE OF THE -- JUST IN
18:09:36 REFERENCE FOR RELATIONSHIP
18:09:39 PURPOSES -- SOMETHING TO
18:09:39 CONSIDER.
18:09:40 THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT IS
18:09:42 ONLY FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL.
18:09:43 IT DOES NOT TAKE IN
18:09:44 CONSIDERATION THE POTENTIAL
18:09:45 DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD BE
18:09:46 OCCURRING FOR OTHER TYPES OF
18:09:48 USES THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE
18:09:51 -- ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:09:53 AND IT ALSO DOES NOT TAKE IN
18:09:54 CONSIDERATION THE EXISTING
18:09:55 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING
18:09:57 TO THE EAST, THE 1750 UNITS
18:09:59 THAT ARE APPROVED FOR WESTSHORE
18:10:00 MARINA DISTRICT OR THE 660
18:10:04 UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BUILT,
18:10:05 AND THERE'S ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL
18:10:07 DEVELOPMENT DOWN AT WESTSHORE
18:10:07 YACHT CLUB.
18:10:09 FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO
18:10:10 SUBMIT INTO THE RECORD THE
18:10:10 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSISTENCY
18:10:15 ANALYSIS THAT WAS PREPARED FOR
18:10:16 THE JUNE 2016 SUBMITTAL AND THE
18:10:18 PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WAS
18:10:19 PREPARED BY THE PLANNER, CYNDI
18:10:22 TARAPANI, AND IT WAS BASICALLY
18:10:25 USED TO SUPPORT, AGAIN, THE
18:10:25 SMU-35.
18:10:26 THE GOALS, POLICIES, AND
18:10:27 OBJECTIVES THAT WERE OUTLINED
18:10:29 IN THAT REPORT, I THINK, WERE
18:10:31 STILL VALID AND RELEVANT TO
18:10:32 THIS DISCUSSION AND ISSUE, AND
18:10:34 IT ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT REPORT
18:10:36 A SERIES OF GRAPHICS AND
18:10:37 AERIALS RELATED TO THE
18:10:39 INDUSTRIAL USES AND RESIDENTIAL
18:10:40 ELSEWHERE, WHICH WILL BE
18:10:42 DISCUSSED IN FURTHER DETAIL.
18:10:45 THANK YOU.
18:10:48 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:10:50 I'M KEVIN MINEER WITH THE
18:10:51 GENESIS GROUP, AND I'D LIKE TO
18:10:53 SPEND A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE
18:10:54 EMERGENCY PLANS THAT ANY NEW
18:10:55 RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE REQUIRED
18:10:57 TO DO BECAUSE I STILL DON'T
18:10:58 UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED
18:10:59 TO ACCOMPLISH.
18:11:01 I STARTED MY RESEARCH BY ASKING
18:11:02 IF I COULD SEE THE CHEMICAL
18:11:04 FORUMLATORS' EMERGENCY RESPONSE
18:11:06 PLAN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER
18:11:07 THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL
18:11:08 NOR THE STATE NOR THE LOCALS
18:11:10 WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT.
18:11:11 I ALSO ASKED CHEMICAL
18:11:13 FORMULATORS IF THEY COULD --
18:11:15 FOR THE PLAN, AND THIS HE TOLD
18:11:17 ME THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS
18:11:18 OF UPDATING IT, SO I STILL
18:11:19 DON'T HAVE THE PLAN.
18:11:20 I DID FIND OUT, HOWEVER, THAT
18:11:21 THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT
18:11:23 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EPC AND
18:11:27 CHEMICAL FORUMLATORS IN 2006
18:11:29 FOR VARIOUS VIOLATIONS
18:11:30 INCLUDING AN ACCIDENTAL
18:11:31 RELEASE.
18:11:33 THEY TRIED TO ADD VARIOUS
18:11:34 DEVICES AND PROTOCOLS TO
18:11:36 PREVENT FUTURE LEAKS.
18:11:37 MY RESEARCH INDICATES THESE
18:11:39 SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED AND
18:11:41 IN COMPLIANCE AND PASSED ALL
18:11:42 INSPECTIONS SINCE THEN.
18:11:44 THERE HAVE BEEN NO FURTHER
18:11:45 LEAKS SINCE THEN.
18:11:47 THAT GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THE
18:11:48 CHLORINE CHEMICAL ITSELF.
18:11:50 MY RESEARCH SAYS THE GAS
18:11:52 PRODUCED IS HEAVIER THAN AIR,
18:11:53 SO CHLORINE WOULD HUG THE
18:11:54 GROUND.
18:11:55 THAT BEGS THE QUESTION WHY
18:11:56 WOULD PEOPLE EVACUATE.
18:11:58 MY RESEARCH INDICATES IF YOU'RE
18:11:59 INSIDE A BUILDING, STAY PUT OR
18:12:01 GET TO A HIGHER FLOOR IF YOU'RE
18:12:02 ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
18:12:03 IF OUTDOORS, GET INSIDE.
18:12:05 YOU DON'T DRIVE BY THE LEAK,
18:12:06 THE LOCATION OF THE LEAK.
18:12:08 FURTHERMORE, IF THERE WAS A
18:12:11 RELEASE, MY RESEARCH INDICATES
18:12:13 IT SPREADS WITH THE WIND IN A
18:12:15 CONICAL SHAPE.
18:12:16 WHILE IT DISSIPATES QUICKLY, MY
18:12:18 RESEARCH INDICATES A TIGHT OVAL
18:12:21 IN ONE DIRECTION LEAVING THE
18:12:23 REMAINING AREA UNEXPOSED.
18:12:25 FURTHER, SINCE IT SPREADS WITH
18:12:26 THE WIND, I RESEARCHED WIND
18:12:28 PATTERNS IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA,
18:12:30 WHICH MY RESEARCH SHOWS ON
18:12:31 AVERAGE THE WIND BLOWS MOST OF
18:12:33 THE TIME TO THE NORTHEAST,
18:12:35 MEANING EVEN WITH THE EPC
18:12:37 MANDATED SAFEGUARDS, IF THE
18:12:39 FACILITY WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER
18:12:41 EMISSION, IT COULD MOST LIKELY
18:12:43 SPREAD ACROSS THE CHANNEL
18:12:44 TOWARDS THE EXISTING
18:12:45 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN
18:12:47 WESTSHORE MARINA, TO THE
18:12:48 NORTHEAST, AND NOT THE
18:12:49 NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST OR THE
18:12:51 WEST ON TYSON AVENUE, WHICH IS
18:12:53 A SOLE FOCUS OF THIS AMENDMENT.
18:12:55 AND LASTLY, WHILE A LOT OF THE
18:12:57 INFORMATION IS ANECDOTAL, IT
18:12:58 APPEARS HISTORICALLY THAT MOST
18:13:01 DRAMATIC CHLORINE IS WHILE THE
18:13:02 MATERIAL IS BEING TRANSPORTED
18:13:03 AND NOT AT THE FACILITY.
18:13:05 RAIL LINES CUT ACROSS MOST OF
18:13:07 OUR CITY, SO IF IT'S A DANGER,
18:13:09 IT'S A CITYWIDE, NOT NATIONWIDE
18:13:10 ISSUE.
18:13:11 IN CONCLUSION, I DON'T BELIEVE
18:13:12 THIS AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY,
18:13:14 DOES NOT ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF
18:13:15 PUBLIC SAFETY ALLEGED BY THE
18:13:16 APPLICANT, AND COULD BE
18:13:18 CONSIDERED ARBITRARY.
18:13:20 IT REFERENCES SPILLS BEFORE EPC
18:13:21 MANDATED SAFEGUARDS WERE
18:13:22 INSTALLED AS THE NEED FOR THIS
18:13:23 AMENDMENT.
18:13:25 IT DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS
18:13:28 EXISTING WORKERS OF ADJACENT
18:13:29 FACTORIES.
18:13:31 IT DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS
18:13:33 POTENTIAL FUTURE WORKERS, NOR
18:13:34 ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF
18:13:35 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE
18:13:36 ALREADY APPROVED IN THE
18:13:37 SURROUNDING AREA.
18:13:39 AS A FINAL POINT, 30 YEARS AGO
18:13:39 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
18:13:41 IDENTIFIED TWO WATERFRONT AREAS
18:13:43 WHICH WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE
18:13:44 REDEVELOPMENT.
18:13:46 THERE WERE YBOR CITY CHANNEL,
18:13:48 WHICH IS DOING QUITE WELL, AND
18:13:49 RATTLESNAKE POINT, WHICH WAS
18:13:50 CALLED GANDY GATEWAY.
18:13:51 I BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT
18:13:52 HINDERS RATHER THAN HELPS
18:13:54 REDEVELOPMENT OF GANDY GATEWAY.
18:13:57 THANK YOU.
18:14:00 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
18:14:02 HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE
18:14:02 COMMISSION.
18:14:04 I'M CATE WELLS WITH THE LAW
18:14:06 FIRM OF SHUMAKER, LOOP &
18:14:08 KENDRICK, 101 KENNEDY
18:14:10 BOULEVARD, SUITE 2800 IN TAMPA.
18:14:12 I APPEAR BEFORE YOU ON BEHALF
18:14:15 OF SAJET PROPERTIES, LLC, OWNER
18:14:18 OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5105
18:14:20 WEST TYSON AVENUE WITHIN THE
18:14:21 RATTLESNAKE POINT WATERFRONT
18:14:22 AREA.
18:14:24 I LAST APPEARED BEFORE YOU IN
18:14:28 2017 ON A LAND USE AMENDMENT.
18:14:29 AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL FOR
18:14:30 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS ATTEMPTED
18:14:33 TO INTRODUCE REVISIONS TO THE
18:14:34 RATTLESNAKE POINT POLICIES IN
18:14:36 ORDER TO DELAY CONSIDERATION OF
18:14:38 MY CLIENT'S MAP AMENDMENT.
18:14:39 NOTWITHSTANDING THE COMPANY'S
18:14:42 ALLEGED CONCERNS ABOUT PUBLIC
18:14:42 SAFETY, CITY COUNCIL
18:14:44 UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE MAP
18:14:44 AMENDMENT.
18:14:46 SINCE THAT TACTIC DIDN'T RESULT
18:14:49 IN THE DESIRED OUTCOME,
18:14:50 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS IS AGAIN
18:14:52 BEFORE YOU SEEKING TO UNDERMINE
18:14:53 AND HALT THE TRANSITION THAT IS
18:14:54 ENCOURAGED IN LAND USE
18:14:57 OBJECTIVE 8.11.
18:14:58 I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE
18:15:00 PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT IS YET
18:15:01 ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY CHEMICAL
18:15:03 FORMULATORS TO USE YOUR
18:15:04 LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY FOR
18:15:05 PRIVATE GAIN.
18:15:06 DURING THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC
18:15:09 HEARING ON NOVEMBER 30TH, JIM
18:15:10 PALMER, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF
18:15:13 ALLIED UNIVERSAL CORPORATION,
18:15:13 TESTIFIED.
18:15:14 AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST
18:15:16 WANT TO BASICALLY HAVE THE TIME
18:15:17 AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE A
18:15:18 TRANSITION TO MOVE SOMEWHERE
18:15:19 THAT'S GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE.
18:15:21 WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A
18:15:22 PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, BUT WE
18:15:23 NEED THE TIME AND THE ABILITY
18:15:25 TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOVE TO
18:15:27 SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A VERY
18:15:29 UNIQUE SITE, I MEAN WITH RAIL
18:15:32 AND SHIP ABILITIES, TO WHICH
18:15:33 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN ASKED, LIKE
18:15:34 THE PORT OF TAMPA?
18:15:36 MR. PALMER RESPOND, THAT COULD
18:15:38 BE A POSSIBILITY, YES.
18:15:41 AND COUNCILMAN VIERA THEN SAID,
18:15:42 AS COUNCILMAN COHEN SAID, IT'S
18:15:43 ABOUT A TRANSITION BOTH FOR
18:15:44 THIS BODY IN TERMS OF OUR
18:15:46 STATED PURPOSES AND APPARENTLY
18:15:48 YOUR COMPANY IN TERMS OF MOVING
18:15:50 PLANS, SO MOVING IS IN THE
18:15:51 FORESEEABLE CARDS FOR YOU?
18:15:54 MR. PALMER RESPONDED, WE'RE NOT
18:15:56 OPPOSED TO MOVING AT ALL.
18:15:57 BASICALLY, WE'VE SPENT 20
18:15:58 MILLION OR SO OUT AT THAT
18:15:59 FACILITY.
18:16:00 WE NEED TO BE KEPT WHOLE.
18:16:03 DURING THAT SAME HEARING, BOB
18:16:08 NAMOFF, CHAIRMAN OF CFI, SAID,
18:16:09 WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
18:16:10 TRANSITIONING, BUT WHAT DOES
18:16:11 TRANSITIONING MEAN?
18:16:13 THIS IS THE QUESTION THE
18:16:15 COMMISSIONER ASKED, AND'S A
18:16:16 VALID QUESTION.
18:16:17 -- IT'S A VALID QUESTION.
18:16:19 NOBODY SUGGESTED WE'LL HELP
18:16:19 YOU.
18:16:21 WE SUGGESTED BACK IN 2005 HELP
18:16:23 MOVE US, MOVE US TO ANOTHER
18:16:24 LOCATION, AND WE'LL MOVE.
18:16:25 NOBODY HAS CONTACTED US YET.
18:16:27 SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR
18:16:27 QUESTION.
18:16:28 WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE.
18:16:30 WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STOP
18:16:32 GROWTH, AS MR. PALMER SAID,
18:16:33 GROWTH IS GREAT FOR OUR
18:16:34 COMPANY, BUT IF YOU WANT US TO
18:16:35 MOVE, PLEASE SOMEBODY OFFER TO
18:16:36 ASSIST.
18:16:37 WE NEED TO FIND A NEW SITE.
18:16:39 THERE MAY BE SOME AROUND, BUT
18:16:41 WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL SOMEBODY
18:16:42 WANTS OUR PROPERTY.
18:16:43 I ASK THIS COUNCIL TO SEE
18:16:45 THROUGH THE PROPOSED TEXT
18:16:46 AMENDMENT.
18:16:46 UNDERSTAND CHEMICAL
18:16:49 FORUMLATORS' INTENT IN MOVING
18:16:50 IT FORWARD, AND REQUEST THAT
18:16:52 YOU DENY THE AMENDMENT TONIGHT.
18:16:53 THANK YOU.
18:16:57 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:17:00 ELISE BATSEL WITH PHELPS DUNBAR
18:17:03 LOCATED AT 100 SOUTH ASHLEY,
18:17:05 SUITE 1900, REPRESENTING TWO
18:17:06 CLIENTS THAT OWN PROPERTY
18:17:09 TONIGHT ON RATTLESNAKE POINT,
18:17:11 UNFORTUNATELY, MS. GRIMES HAD A
18:17:12 FAMILY EMERGENCY AND COULDN'T
18:17:14 BE HERE TONIGHT AND ORION
18:17:17 MARINE CONSTRUCTION.
18:17:18 THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGEST
18:17:21 LANDOWNERS ON THE PROPERTY.
18:17:24 [OFF MICROPHONE] WE ARE
18:17:26 ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE TEXT
18:17:29 AMENDMENT.
18:17:31 IN 2016, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
18:17:33 -- WE ALL GOT TOGETHER,
18:17:35 INDUSTRIAL OWNERS, POTENTIAL
18:17:35 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS OUT
18:17:37 THERE, AND WE SAID HOW CAN WE
18:17:39 DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE
18:17:41 TRANSITION POSSIBLE BUT ALSO
18:17:43 PRESERVES THE RIGHTS OF THE
18:17:44 INDUSTRIAL USERS THAT ARE ON
18:17:45 THE POINT?
18:17:47 WE CAME UP WITH LANGUAGE, AND
18:17:49 YOU AGREED UNANIMOUSLY THAT
18:17:51 THAT LANGUAGE DID THOSE THINGS.
18:17:51 THE LANGUAGE SAYS IN THE
18:17:53 OBJECTIVE, ENCOURAGE THE
18:17:54 TRANSITION OF THE RATTLESNAKE
18:17:57 POINT WATERFRONT AREA FROM ITS
18:17:58 CURRENT MIX OF HEAVY AND LIGHT
18:18:00 INDUSTRIAL USES TO A MIX OF
18:18:02 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
18:18:04 THIS WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:18:06 THIS TEXT AMENDMENT DOES NOT
18:18:08 ENHANCE THAT, IT DOESN'T
18:18:08 FURTHER THAT.
18:18:10 WHAT IT DOES IS WIND IT BACK.
18:18:11 IT ACTUALLY DISCOURAGES
18:18:14 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT;
18:18:15 HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T TOUCH ON
18:18:17 COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT ALL.
18:18:19 WE BELIEVE THAT THE COMP PLAN
18:18:22 TEXT AMENDMENT IS INEQUITABLE
18:18:24 AND INORDINATELY BURDENS ALL OF
18:18:25 THE PROPERTIES OUT ON
18:18:26 RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:18:27 HERE'S THE FIRST REASON.
18:18:29 IT REALLY ARBITRARILY ISOLATES
18:18:31 AND TARGETS JUST THOSE
18:18:33 PROPERTIES ON THE RESIDENTIAL
18:18:35 USES ON THE PROPERTY ON
18:18:36 RATTLESNAKE POINT, AND WHAT I
18:18:37 MEAN BY THAT IS YOU'VE ALREADY
18:18:39 HEARD TESTIMONY THAT RIGHT NOW
18:18:41 COMMERCIAL USES -- 9,000 OFFICE
18:18:43 WORKERS COULD BE OUT THERE
18:18:43 TODAY.
18:18:45 THERE IS OPERATIONS DURING THE
18:18:45 DAY.
18:18:47 YES, THEIR OPERATION IS AT
18:18:48 NIGHT, BUT THERE'S ALSO
18:18:49 OPERATIONS DURING THE DAY.
18:18:51 MY FAMILY GOES TO HULA BAY.
18:18:52 WE EAT DURING THE DAY.
18:18:53 THERE ARE FAMILIES ON THE POINT
18:18:56 AS WE SPEAK.
18:18:57 THE EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS THAT
18:18:58 INCLUDE THOSE 9,000 INCLUDES
18:19:00 THE ARMY, IT INCLUDES OFFICE
18:19:02 WORKERS, IT INCLUDES MANY
18:19:05 DIFFERENT USES, EXACTLY WHAT
18:19:06 YOU WERE ENCOURAGING.
18:19:07 THE SECOND REASON THAT THE
18:19:08 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS
18:19:12 INEQUITABLE IS THAT NO OTHER
18:19:13 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
18:19:15 ADJACENT TO OR NEAR INDUSTRIAL
18:19:17 DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF
18:19:18 TAMPA IS SUBJECT TO THE SAME
18:19:19 CONDITIONS AS WHAT WE'RE TRYING
18:19:21 TO DO WITH BOTH THE
18:19:22 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT
18:19:23 AMENDMENT TONIGHT AND THE
18:19:25 FOLLOWING LDC AMENDMENT.
18:19:27 THOSE OTHER AREAS WE'VE ALREADY
18:19:29 DISCUSSED IN 2016, BUT TO
18:19:32 REMIND YOU, IT'S PORT TAMPA,
18:19:34 HARBOUR ISLAND, DAVIS ISLANDS,
18:19:35 WHICH HAS ONE BRIDGE IN AND
18:19:37 OUT, RIGHT.
18:19:38 IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE,
18:19:39 THEY ALSO HAVE ONE DIRECTION IN
18:19:40 AND OUT.
18:19:41 PALMETTO BEACH.
18:19:42 AS THE CROW FLIES, THESE AREAS
18:19:44 ARE JUST AS CLOSE TO HEAVY
18:19:47 INDUSTRIAL, FAR MORE HEAVY
18:19:49 INDUSTRIALS IN THE PORT THAN
18:19:50 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH
18:19:51 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS.
18:19:52 IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AGAIN AT
18:19:54 NO. 8, WHICH YOU JUST APPROVED,
18:19:56 AND YOU LOOK AT THE TANKS, THE
18:19:58 AIRPLANE FUEL TANKS OF WHAT --
18:19:59 STAFF SAID NOTHING ABOUT THOSE
18:20:01 AIRPLANE FUEL TANKS.
18:20:02 PLANNING COMMISSION SAID
18:20:03 NOTHING, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST
18:20:06 THAT THE -- IF IT'S A PROBLEM,
18:20:08 IT'S A CITYWIDE PROBLEM.
18:20:09 WE WOULD ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON
18:20:12 THIS AMENDMENT.
18:20:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:20:14 ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON
18:20:16 ITEM NO. 1?
18:20:23 ALL RIGHT.
18:20:24 >> THANK YOU.
18:20:27 ANDREA ZELMAN AGAIN FOR CFI.
18:20:28 I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK.
18:20:29 FIRST OF ALL, AS ELISE
18:20:31 MENTIONED, IN 2016 ALL THE
18:20:32 PROPERTY OWNERS GOT TOGETHER,
18:20:34 BUT THEY DID NOT INCLUDE OUR
18:20:34 CLIENT.
18:20:35 I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT
18:20:37 BEING INVITED TO THE PARTY, BUT
18:20:39 I'M JUST SAYING ON THE RECORD
18:20:41 CFI WAS NOT INCLUDED, WAS NOT
18:20:42 EVEN AWARE THAT THAT WAS
18:20:43 HAPPENING.
18:20:44 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
18:20:45 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
18:20:48 COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE, AGAIN,
18:20:50 CFI DOES MUCH OF ITS CHLORINE
18:20:52 PRODUCTION WORK AT NIGHT, AND
18:20:54 THE TRAIN CARS THAT BRING IN
18:20:56 THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BRING
18:20:57 THEM IN AT NIGHT.
18:20:59 IT'S AT NIGHT THAT PEOPLE ARE
18:21:02 -- IF THEY HAD TO EVACUATE,
18:21:05 THAT'S WHEN THE RESIDENTS ARE
18:21:06 THERE PROBABLY SLEEPING.
18:21:07 THAT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT
18:21:08 SITUATION THAN DURING THE DAY
18:21:10 WHEN YOU'VE GOT OFFICE WORKERS
18:21:13 AND RESTAURANT FOLKS THERE.
18:21:15 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE DIFFERENCE
18:21:16 BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE
18:21:18 COMMERCIAL IS AT A TIME OF
18:21:20 EVACUATION, HOW EASY IS IT
18:21:22 GOING TO BE DENSE RESIDENTIAL
18:21:24 DEVELOPMENT, SLEEPING PEOPLE
18:21:24 OUT?
18:21:26 I DON'T AGREE THAT DAVIS ISLAND
18:21:31 IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO
18:21:33 WHATEVER SHE'S TALKING ABOUT,
18:21:34 THE PORT, AS THESE PROPERTY
18:21:35 OWNERS WOULD BE ON RATTLESNAKE
18:21:40 POINT TO CFI.
18:21:42 IT'S ALSO -- SOMEONE RAISED THE
18:21:44 POINT -- I THINK IT WAS DAVE
18:21:47 MECHANIK RAISED THE POINT THAT
18:21:49 THE BURDEN SHOULD NOT BE ON THE
18:21:52 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO
18:21:53 PROTECT PEOPLE FROM CFI
18:21:55 PROCESSES, BUT FIRST OF ALL,
18:21:57 CFI'S BEEN THERE FOR 22 YEARS.
18:21:58 THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS,
18:21:59 SHOULD THEY COME, ARE COMING TO
18:22:00 THE NUISANCE.
18:22:03 THEY'RE CHOOSING TO LOCATE
18:22:03 RESIDENTS NEAR A CHEMICAL
18:22:05 FACILITIES THAT'S BEEN THERE
18:22:06 FOR 22 YEARS.
18:22:08 SECONDLY, IT'S NOT AT ALL
18:22:09 UNPRECEDENTED TO PUT THOSE KIND
18:22:12 OF RESTRICTIONS ON RESIDENTIAL
18:22:13 DEVELOPERS.
18:22:15 AN ATTORNEY AT MY FIRM BACK IN
18:22:17 2005 REPRESENTED A PROPERTY
18:22:19 OWNER AT CAUSEWAY BOULEVARD WHO
18:22:21 DID A PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LI TO
18:22:24 CMU-35, WANTING TO PUT IN
18:22:25 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR
18:22:27 THE PORT.
18:22:27 THE STATE AND THE PORT
18:22:30 AUTHORITY OBJECTED BECAUSE THEY
18:22:31 DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IN
18:22:32 RESIDENTS AND THEN HAVE THEM
18:22:34 COMPLAIN ABOUT NOISE,
18:22:36 VIBRATIONS, TRUCKS, DUST
18:22:36 PARTICLES.
18:22:38 IT WASN'T CHEMICALS THERE, BUT
18:22:39 IT WAS THOSE TYPES OF NUISANCE
18:22:41 THINGS, AND ULTIMATELY THE
18:22:42 SETTLEMENT THAT WAS STIPULATED
18:22:44 TO, AFTER DEPARTMENT OF
18:22:45 ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING, WAS
18:22:47 THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER
18:22:50 HAD TO PUT A RESTRICTIVE
18:22:52 COVENANT RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC
18:22:53 RECORD PUTTING THE RESIDENTS ON
18:22:54 NOTICE THAT THEY WERE LIVING
18:22:55 NEXT TO THESE INDUSTRIAL USES
18:23:00 WITH ALL THOSE FACTORS AND THAT
18:23:02 THEY ALSO HAD TO DESIGN THEIR
18:23:03 PROJECTS TO MITIGATE FOR THOSE
18:23:04 USES.
18:23:06 THEY HAD TO PUT UP A WALL, THEY
18:23:07 HAD TO HAVE NOISE REDUCTION,
18:23:09 THEY HAD TO PROMISE TO HAVE
18:23:12 CARPORTS OR GARAGES TO PROTECT
18:23:13 THE CARS FROM THE DUST
18:23:14 PARTICLES.
18:23:15 SO IT'S NOT AT ALL
18:23:17 UNPRECEDENTED TO SAY TO A
18:23:18 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER THAT IF
18:23:19 YOU WANT TO GO CLOSE TO AN
18:23:20 INDUSTRIAL USE, YOU HAVE TO
18:23:25 AGREE TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS.
18:23:27 ANOTHER POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT
18:23:30 UP BY KEVIN MINEER, I -- I'M
18:23:33 ASTONISHED THAT HE, BASED ON
18:23:35 HIS RESEARCH, SEEMS TO BE
18:23:37 SAYING THAT THERE'S NO THREAT
18:23:39 TO THE RESIDENTS -- TO
18:23:42 RESIDENTS ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:23:45 THERE ARE EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD
18:23:47 -- IT'S RATHER PRESUMPTUOUS OF
18:23:48 ANY OF US HERE TONIGHT SINCE
18:23:50 NONE OF US, I BELIEVE, ARE IN
18:23:51 THAT FIELD, TO SAY THAT WE CAN
18:23:53 COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE
18:23:54 DANGERS POSED BY A CHEMICAL
18:23:57 LEAK OF THIS NATURE AT THIS
18:23:59 SITE, SO I JUST -- I JUST THINK
18:24:01 IT'S VERY PRESUMPTUOUS FOR HIM
18:24:04 TO STUDY WIND PATTERNS AND
18:24:06 APPARENTLY PROFESS THAT THERE
18:24:08 IS NO THREAT POSED BY A
18:24:09 POSSIBLE LEAK AT THIS SITE.
18:24:10 AND, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING
18:24:15 ABOUT -- NECESSARILY ABOUT CFI
18:24:16 HAVING A LEAK.
18:24:17 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
18:24:20 POSSIBILITY OF AN ATTACK.
18:24:21 THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO FILE
18:24:23 INFORMATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT
18:24:24 OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND WITH
18:24:26 THE COAST GUARD, BECAUSE THERE
18:24:27 IS SIGNIFICANT CONCERN ABOUT
18:24:28 THE TRAINS BEING ATTACKED, THE
18:24:30 SITE BEING ATTACKED, EITHER
18:24:32 FROM WATER OR FROM LAND.
18:24:33 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO
18:24:35 BE AN ALARMIST, BUT THAT'S WHAT
18:24:37 IT IS.
18:24:39 I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT,
18:24:40 YES, THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED
18:24:45 LANGUAGE WANTING THIS AREA TO
18:24:46 TRANSITION.
18:24:48 THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND
18:24:50 WHY WHAT MY CLIENT SAID ABOUT
18:24:53 BEING AMENABLE TO MOVING BUT
18:24:54 WANTING HELP MOVING IS A BAD
18:24:54 THING.
18:24:56 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT
18:24:59 THEY'RE SAYING IS, YES, WE
18:25:01 UNDERSTAND YOU WANT US OUT SO
18:25:02 THAT THIS CAN BECOME THE
18:25:04 BEAUTIFUL WATERFRONT
18:25:05 RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT
18:25:08 APPARENTLY COUNCIL WANTS, BUT
18:25:09 WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO
18:25:10 FIND THAT SITE, AND I DON'T
18:25:14 THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO
18:25:16 SAY -- FOR CHEMICAL FORMULATORS
18:25:18 TO SAY HELP US FIND THAT SITE.
18:25:20 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS HAS TO
18:25:21 KEEP PROTECTING THE WATER
18:25:22 SUPPLY IN THIS STATE.
18:25:23 THEY CAN'T JUST PICK UP AND
18:25:24 MOVE.
18:25:25 THEY HAVE TO FIND A PLANT THAT
18:25:28 PROVIDES -- A LOCATION THAT
18:25:29 PROVIDES THEM WHAT THEY NEED
18:25:29 FOR THEIR PLANT.
18:25:33 SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE
18:25:35 COMMENTS THAT ARE QUOTED ARE A
18:25:36 BAD THING.
18:25:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:25:40 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
18:25:44 LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION.
18:25:46 THAT IS YOUR CLIENT, DO THEY
18:25:47 HAVE AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE
18:25:47 PLAN?
18:25:48 >> YES.
18:25:51 AND AS I -- SO THIS CAME UP AT
18:25:52 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
18:25:53 HEARING.
18:25:54 KEVIN MINEER RAISED THE ISSUE
18:25:56 OF WHY SHOULD THE RESIDENTIAL
18:25:57 DEVELOPERS BE THE ONES THAT
18:25:59 HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY
18:26:00 RESPONSE PLAN, AN EVACUATION
18:26:03 PLAN, AND WHY DOESN'T CHEMICAL
18:26:05 FORMULATORS SHARE WITH US THEIR
18:26:06 EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, SO
18:26:08 WHAT I TOLD HIM IS I CONTACTED
18:26:10 MY CLIENT, AND IT TOOK A WHILE,
18:26:11 THERE WAS A SINGLE PERSON AT
18:26:12 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS THAT
18:26:15 PREPARES THE PLAN.
18:26:18 THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PLAN IN
18:26:21 2013 TO THE CITY FIRE,
18:26:22 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE, THE
18:26:25 TAMPA REGIONAL -- BAY REGIONAL
18:26:26 PLANNING COUNCIL, AND
18:26:27 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EMERGENCY
18:26:28 MANAGEMENT.
18:26:30 THEY ARE ACTUALLY -- BECAUSE I
18:26:34 CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT THIS,
18:26:35 THEIR UPDATE IS DUE IN
18:26:37 SEPTEMBER, BUT THEY'RE UPDATING
18:26:38 IT AS WE SPEAK.
18:26:39 AS I TOLD KEVIN AND THE OTHERS
18:26:41 WHO SPOKE TODAY, I WILL HAVE IT
18:26:43 IN THEIR HANDS -- I'VE BEEN
18:26:45 PROMISED THAT I'LL HAVE IT IN
18:26:47 THEIR HANDS BEFORE JULY 4TH.
18:26:48 WHEN I SPOKE TO THE WOMAN
18:26:51 PREPARING IT TODAY, SHE SAID IT
18:26:53 MAY BE AS EARLY AS TOMORROW,
18:26:54 BUT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM
18:26:56 WITH A COPY OF THAT PLAN.
18:26:58 WE ALSO, I BELIEVE I MENTIONED,
18:26:59 HAVE TO SUBMIT A PLAN TO THE
18:27:00 COAST GUARD THROUGH THE
18:27:01 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
18:27:01 SECURITY.
18:27:06 UNDER FEDERAL REGULATIONS, THAT
18:27:07 CANNOT BE SHARED.
18:27:09 THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC RECORD.
18:27:11 LIKEWISE, THEY SUBMIT A PLAN TO
18:27:12 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EMERGENCY
18:27:13 MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS
18:27:15 SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTED FROM THE
18:27:18 PUBLIC RECORDS STATUTE, AGAIN,
18:27:19 BECAUSE OF CONCERN ABOUT IT
18:27:19 GETTING INTO THE HANDS OF THE
18:27:22 WRONG PEOPLE, BUT, YES, WE DO
18:27:23 HAVE AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN
18:27:25 THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUBMITTED TO
18:27:27 THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND
18:27:29 DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC RECORDS
18:27:31 EXEMPTION, WE CAN PROVIDE TO
18:27:32 THEM AND WE WILL DO SO.
18:27:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
18:27:36 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
18:27:37 COUNCIL?
18:27:43 ALL RIGHT.
18:27:44 THANK YOU.
18:27:44 YES.
18:27:45 ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME WISH
18:27:49 TO SPEAK ON ITEM NO. 1?
18:27:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
18:27:54 MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS VERY
18:27:54 INTERESTING.
18:27:56 I FEEL LIKE A SUPREME COURT
18:27:57 JUSTICE.
18:27:58 NOT THAT I'M QUALIFIED TO BE
18:27:59 ONE.
18:28:00 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND
18:28:02 YOU SIT HERE AND YOU LISTEN,
18:28:09 WHO'S RIGHT AND WHO'S WRONG?
18:28:15 ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
18:28:17 CARS IN, CARS OUT, MOSTLY AT
18:28:20 NIGHT, BUT THOSE RAIL CARS ARE
18:28:21 ALL OVER THE CITY.
18:28:22 IT DOESN'T DROP FROM THE SKY
18:28:23 AND GO IN AND OUT OF
18:28:25 RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:28:27 AND IN 2007, WHO WAS THE FIRST
18:28:29 ONE THAT WENT IN THERE, LENNAR?
18:28:32 I'M TRYING TO THINK, THE FIRST
18:28:33 ONE THAT APPLIED.
18:28:35 ANYWAY, WHOEVER THE FIRST ONE
18:28:37 THAT I RECALL, THERE WAS NO
18:28:38 OBJECTION.
18:28:43 THEN IT STARTED COMING TWO AND
18:28:44 FOUR.
18:28:45 IF THESE LAWYERS GOT TOGETHER,
18:28:46 YOU'D HAVE ONE HELL OF A LAW
18:28:50 FIRM BECAUSE THEY ALL KNOW WHAT
18:28:51 THEY'RE DOING, THEY PRESENT THE
18:28:53 CASE VERY WELL, SO I SIT HERE
18:28:56 AND I SAY, OKAY, THE CHEMICAL
18:29:01 COMPANY KNEW WHAT WAS COMING.
18:29:02 THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THE LAND
18:29:03 KNEW WHAT WAS THERE.
18:29:05 THE PEOPLE WHO DEVELOPED THE
18:29:07 LAND KNEW WHAT WAS THERE.
18:29:08 THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO
18:29:10 BUY THE DEVELOPMENT, THE
18:29:11 DEVELOPER WHO BOUGHT THE LAND,
18:29:13 ALL KNEW IT WAS THERE.
18:29:15 SO WHAT AM I DOING HERE?
18:29:16 EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING
18:29:17 ON.
18:29:18 THE LANDOWNER KNEW IT, THE ONE
18:29:19 THAT SOLD IT TO THE DEVELOPERS
18:29:21 KNEW IT, THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE
18:29:22 GOING TO SELL IS IT TO THE
18:29:23 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MOVE IN
18:29:24 AND DO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION
18:29:29 OF IT KNEW IT, SO WHERE ARE WE?
18:29:31 WE SEVEN ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
18:29:34 GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE.
18:29:36 SO IT'S A DIFFICULT CASE.
18:29:39 IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE HEAR EVERY
18:29:41 DAY.
18:29:42 IN ALL MY YEARS OF SERVICE, I
18:29:45 NEVER HEARD ONE LIKE THIS,
18:29:46 NEVER.
18:29:48 IT WAS A COMMERCIAL SITE THAT
18:29:49 TURNED RESIDENTIAL.
18:29:51 THERE WAS ANOTHER SMALL ONE
18:29:53 THAT WAS JUST SOUTH OF
18:29:55 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA,
18:29:56 THAT DEVELOPMENT AREA.
18:30:00 THERE WAS NO OBJECTION FROM NO
18:30:02 ONE, AND THERE WAS ONLY THREE
18:30:04 DEVELOPED AREAS IN THE WHOLE
18:30:07 CITY, AS I RECALL.
18:30:09 THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
18:30:11 THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE OTHER
18:30:12 SIDE OF YBOR CITY, AND ONE IN
18:30:13 DREW PARK.
18:30:16 THOSE ARE THE THREE COMMERCIAL,
18:30:18 INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT WE HAD IN
18:30:20 THE CITY OF ANY SUBSTANCE OF
18:30:21 SIZE.
18:30:22 SO NOW WE'RE STUCK HERE
18:30:24 LISTENING TO THIS, AND THERE'S
18:30:26 VALID POINTS ON ALL SIDES.
18:30:27 SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WIN AND
18:30:28 SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LOSE.
18:30:29 WHO THAT IS, I REALLY DON'T
18:30:30 KNOW.
18:30:32 BUT THERE'S REALLY NO WINNERS
18:30:36 AND NO LOSERS UNLESS I THINK
18:30:38 LIKE I THINK AND I TELL MYSELF,
18:30:43 IF I'M GOING TO BUY A PLACE,
18:30:45 I'M GOING TO COMPARE IT TO
18:30:46 ANOTHER SITE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:30:48 WE JOKED AROUND ABOUT WEST
18:30:49 TAMPA.
18:30:51 THE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA NEVER
18:30:53 KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A
18:30:54 FOOTBALL STADIUM THERE.
18:30:55 THEY DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS
18:30:57 GOING TO BE A BASEBALL STADIUM.
18:30:58 THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
18:31:03 THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT IN 1974 A
18:31:05 RETAIL SITE WAS GOING TO BE
18:31:06 CLOSED AND A HOSPITAL WAS GOING
18:31:08 TO COME THERE.
18:31:09 NONE OF THEM KNEW THAT.
18:31:11 THERE'S A BURDEN WITH THAT NOW.
18:31:13 THIS CASE IS THE OPPOSITE.
18:31:15 THEY KNOW IT'S THERE AND IT'S
18:31:16 STILL GOING TO COME IN.
18:31:18 SO I TRY TO GO ON YEARS OF
18:31:21 EXPERIENCE, AND LIKE THINGS I
18:31:22 LEARNED IN JEFFERSON HIGH
18:31:24 SCHOOL AND I'D TELL MYSELF, HOW
18:31:26 DOES THIS WORK?
18:31:30 WAS IT BROUGHT IN UNDER
18:31:30 SUSPICION OF NIGHT WITH A
18:31:32 BLANKET AROUND IT SO THEY
18:31:33 COULDN'T SEE?
18:31:34 I DON'T THINK SO.
18:31:35 AND THIS PROPERTY IS NOT GOING
18:31:39 TO GO FOR, YOU KNOW, $80- OR
18:31:44 $90,000 A LOT, IT'S GOING TO GO
18:31:46 AT THE GOING MARKET RATE, WHICH
18:31:48 IS FAIR, SO WHAT ARE WE
18:31:50 DECIDING ON?
18:31:52 WE KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
18:31:53 SOME COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL OR
18:31:56 OTHER COUNCILS, AND BACK IN
18:31:58 1988 AND 2006 KNEW WHAT
18:32:00 HAPPENED, AND HERE WE ARE IN
18:32:02 2018 STILL NOT KNOWING WHAT
18:32:03 HAPPENED, EVEN THOUGH WE KNEW
18:32:04 WHAT HAPPENED.
18:32:07 GETS VERY CONFUSING, DOESN'T
18:32:08 IT?
18:32:09 THAT'S WHY [OFF MICROPHONE]
18:32:13 LEFT THE BANK.
18:32:16 SO IT'S AN AMAZING PROCESS, AND
18:32:18 WE'RE GOING TO THINK DEEP AND
18:32:18 THINK SMART.
18:32:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:32:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
18:32:21 ALL RIGHT.
18:32:24 ANY OTHER COUNCIL WISH TO SPEAK
18:32:27 OR COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
18:32:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I
18:32:29 COULD.
18:32:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
18:32:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU,
18:32:30 CHAIR.
18:32:31 YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES PRESENTED
18:32:32 IN THIS ARE A COUPLE.
18:32:33 ONE -- AND THEY WERE RIGHTFULLY
18:32:37 STATED THAT IN 2016 WE ALREADY
18:32:38 DEALT WITH PART OF THIS.
18:32:40 NOW, OF COURSE, CFI WAS NOT
18:32:42 PART OF THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE
18:32:46 AT THE TIME, BUT IT DID DEAL
18:32:47 WITH WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AS A
18:32:50 VISION OF THAT PARTICULAR
18:32:52 POINT, RATTLESNAKE POINT.
18:32:54 I DON'T THINK THAT THE ARGUMENT
18:32:57 THAT THE PETITIONER IS GIVING
18:33:02 US ABOUT THE UNDUE SAFETY OF
18:33:03 THEIR PLANT -- SHE MENTIONED
18:33:05 THAT THE PLANT HAS HOMELAND
18:33:07 SECURITY THERE.
18:33:08 THEY ARE ONE OF THE MOST
18:33:10 HEAVILY REGULATED INDUSTRIES IN
18:33:12 THIS COUNTRY.
18:33:14 IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW,
18:33:14 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT KNOWS
18:33:16 WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE,
18:33:17 MOST OF THE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL
18:33:21 AGENCIES, AND TO PUT A BURDEN
18:33:22 ON OTHER PEOPLE TO SAY HOW
18:33:24 INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS THIS IS
18:33:25 WHEN -- AND I THINK IT WAS
18:33:30 POINTED OUT BY MS. BATSEL, THAT
18:33:31 WE HAVE VERY DANGEROUS
18:33:33 CHEMICALS ALL OVER THE CITY.
18:33:35 WE ARE AN INDUSTRIAL CITY.
18:33:36 WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A WORKING
18:33:39 CITY, UNLIKE OTHER PLACES IN
18:33:42 FLORIDA, THE SARASOTAS AND
18:33:44 VENICES OF THE WORLD, PLACES
18:33:46 WHERE PEOPLE WERE VACATIONING.
18:33:47 THIS IS A WORKING CITY, SO YOU
18:33:49 HAVE HEAVY USES OF CHEMICALS
18:33:50 ALL OVER THIS PLACE, ESPECIALLY
18:33:52 NEAR THE PORT, ESPECIALLY NEAR
18:33:53 OUR OWN FACILITIES WHEN WE HAVE
18:33:55 TO CLEAN OUR OWN WATER, SO THAT
18:33:56 CHEMICAL THAT THEY'RE TALKING
18:33:57 ABOUT GOES OVER TO OUR PLANT
18:33:59 THAT WE USE AND THEN TO CLEAN
18:34:01 THE WATER IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
18:34:02 IT TO THE REST OF THE CITY.
18:34:05 SO IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS IN MY
18:34:07 MIND IN TERMS OF THAT ARGUMENT.
18:34:10 I BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD NOT
18:34:13 GO FORWARD, THAT THIS AMENDMENT
18:34:15 SHOULD NOT BE LOOKED AT IN A
18:34:16 WAY IN WHICH THEY ARE
18:34:16 PRESENTING IT.
18:34:20 I THINK IT HAS OTHER REASONS
18:34:21 FOR BEING.
18:34:23 I'M NOT GOING TO OPINE ABOUT
18:34:24 WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT I WILL SAY
18:34:25 THAT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE
18:34:27 -- GOING FORWARD, IT SHOULD NOT
18:34:28 BE TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE.
18:34:29 THANK YOU.
18:34:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
18:34:31 ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM
18:34:32 COUNCIL?
18:34:33 MR. COHEN.
18:34:34 >>HARRY COHEN: YEAH, YOU KNOW.
18:34:36 I AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA, THAT
18:34:37 THIS IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT
18:34:38 QUESTION BECAUSE THE ARGUMENTS
18:34:40 THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ON BOTH
18:34:44 SIDES ARE -- THERE ARE VALID
18:34:45 POINTS ON BOTH SIDES, BUT I
18:34:47 THINK I DISAGREE WITH
18:34:48 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, AND I'LL
18:34:52 TELL YOU WHY.
18:34:53 BECAUSE I THINK IF WE'RE GOING
18:34:57 TO ERR -- AND I'M NOT GOING TO
18:34:59 SAY WE ARE ERRING, BUT I THINK
18:35:01 IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE
18:35:04 YOU HAVE TWO SIDES THAT ARE
18:35:07 BOTH -- HAVE A PLAUSIBLE POINT,
18:35:13 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE SIDE
18:35:14 THAT'S IN FAVOR OF MORE NOTICE
18:35:16 TO THE PUBLIC IS BETTER.
18:35:18 I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S A MORE
18:35:21 RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO WHEN --
18:35:24 I MEAN, WE ARE ALL POLITICIANS,
18:35:25 AND I SUPPOSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO
18:35:27 BE EXPERTS ON WHICH WAY THE
18:35:29 WIND BLOWS, BUT I DON'T THINK
18:35:30 ANY OF US REALLY KNOW THE
18:35:32 ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
18:35:34 AND BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE
18:35:36 OF THE UNIQUE GEOGRAPHIC
18:35:39 CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS, I FEEL
18:35:42 THAT ON A CLOSE QUESTION, THE
18:35:45 NOTICE IS -- THE ADDITIONAL
18:35:46 NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT MIGHT
18:35:47 BE INVOLVED HERE, I DON'T THINK
18:35:49 THAT THEY'RE INAPPROPRIATE.
18:35:53 I ALSO THINK COUNCILMAN REDDICK
18:35:54 SETTLED THE QUESTION OF THE
18:35:55 RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
18:35:57 EVACUATION PLAN AND THE FACT
18:35:59 THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE GIVEN,
18:36:02 SO I JUST, I THINK, SEE IT A
18:36:03 LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN
18:36:05 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ DOES.
18:36:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:36:09 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AT
18:36:10 THIS TIME?
18:36:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
18:36:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
18:36:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: IF WE'RE GOING
18:36:14 TO START GIVING NOTICE, WE'RE
18:36:15 GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER
18:36:16 THE CITY EVERYWHERE.
18:36:19 STUFF MOVES ALL OVER THE CITY.
18:36:21 THE TRAINS THAT BRING THE
18:36:25 CHEMICAL GOES STRAIGHT PROBABLY
18:36:30 THROUGH DOWNTOWN, SO IT IS --
18:36:31 WE DO THIS AND HAVE BEEN DOING
18:36:34 THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND
18:36:38 YEARS, TRANSPORTING CHEMICALS
18:36:43 AND FUEL, AND WE TAKE THE
18:36:44 MEASURES -- THE PROPER MEASURES
18:36:47 FOR SAFETY, BUT THAT'S BEEN
18:36:50 SETTLED, SO I TEND TO FEEL THAT
18:36:56 IT IS NOT NEEDED.
18:36:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:37:02 ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK?
18:37:04 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE
18:37:05 COUNCIL.
18:37:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I'D LIKE
18:37:08 TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY
18:37:09 TRANSMITTAL OF THIS TO THE
18:37:10 STATE.
18:37:10 >> SECOND.
18:37:11 >> SECOND.
18:37:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I ASSUME THAT'S
18:37:13 THE PROPER PROCEDURAL WAY OF
18:37:14 STATING IT.
18:37:16 JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
18:37:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
18:37:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
18:37:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:37:21 WE'VE GOT A MOTION FROM
18:37:22 MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
18:37:23 MR. MANISCALCO.
18:37:24 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
18:37:25 AYE.
18:37:28 THOSE OPPOSED.
18:37:31 >>HARRY COHEN: NAY.
18:37:33 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH COHEN
18:37:35 VOTING NO.
18:37:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
18:37:43 YES, MA'AM.
18:37:44 >>KRISTIN MORA: CHAIRMAN
18:37:46 REDDICK, ITEM 10 AND 12 ON YOUR
18:37:47 AGENDA WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS
18:37:48 HERE.
18:37:50 WE HAVE MS. MOREDA HERE.
18:37:51 THEY HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THEM
18:37:53 THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
18:37:53 ASCERTAIN FROM INQUIRING
18:37:57 DOWNSTAIRS.
18:37:58 IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO
18:37:59 CONSIDER IT, IT IS PAST THE
18:38:01 6:00 HOUR, SO THEY ARE PROPERLY
18:38:03 BEFORE YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
18:38:04 TO HEAR THOSE BEFORE ITEM NO.
18:38:05 2.
18:38:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: I THINK IN ALL
18:38:07 FAIRNESS, SINCE THERE'S NO
18:38:08 OPPOSITION, LET'S GET THEM OUT
18:38:09 OF THE WAY SO THEY DON'T HAVE
18:38:12 TO BE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING
18:38:14 TO NO. 1 -- NO. 2 NEXT, AND IT
18:38:18 MIGHT BE A LITTLE WHILE.
18:38:20 >>KRISTIN MORA: INDEED.
18:38:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO WE CAN GET
18:38:24 -- HAVE THEY BEEN NOTIFIED TO
18:38:25 COME UP?
18:38:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY'RE READY
18:38:27 TO GO, I BELIEVE.
18:38:28 EVERYBODY'S HERE.
18:38:29 >>KRISTIN MORA: YES, THEY ARE
18:38:32 READY TO GO.
18:38:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: A QUESTION FOR
18:38:34 STAFF.
18:38:37 LET ME GET TO THE ITEM 10.
18:38:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE'RE GOING TO
18:38:44 ITEM 10 AND 12.
18:38:46 IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIR, IF I
18:38:48 COULD ASK COUNCIL TO MAKE A
18:38:51 MOTION TO OPEN 10, 11, AND 12.
18:38:54 >> MOVE TO OPEN 10, 11, AND 12.
18:38:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ALSO,
18:38:56 THESE ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
18:38:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE GOING TO
18:38:58 GET THERE.
18:39:00 WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN UP
18:39:02 ITEMS 10, 11, AND 1, AND
18:39:05 SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
18:39:06 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
18:39:06 AYE.
18:39:08 THOSE OPPOSED.
18:39:08 ALL RIGHT.
18:39:10 ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM
18:39:14 10, 11, OR 12 NEEDS TO STAND UP
18:39:15 AND BE SWORN IN.
18:39:21 10, 11, 12, IF YOU'RE GOING TO
18:39:23 SPEAK, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN
18:39:24 IN.
18:39:25 [PARTICIPANTS SWORN IN]
18:39:28 >> THANK YOU.
18:39:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:39:30 LET'S DO NO. 10.
18:39:31 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:39:33 RYAN MANASSE, CITY OF TAMPA
18:39:34 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:39:35 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS
18:39:40 AB2-17-28 AT LOCATION 5415 WEST
18:39:40 TYSON AVENUE.
18:39:42 THE CURRENT ZONING IS
18:39:44 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, IG, AND THE
18:39:46 FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMUNITY
18:39:48 MIXED USE-35, CMU-35.
18:39:50 LAND DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF HAS
18:39:51 REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
18:39:53 FINDS IT INCONSISTENT.
18:39:54 MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE
18:39:55 PLAN ARE NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST
18:40:00 AND SECOND READING.
18:40:03 THE 5415 WEST TYSON AVENUE SITE
18:40:06 IS USED FOR MANUFACTURING.
18:40:08 ADDRESS 5411 WOULD REMAIN
18:40:09 MANUFACTURING, AND THE NEW
18:40:12 ADDRESS OF 5415 WEST TYSON
18:40:13 AVENUE WILL BE USED FOR THE
18:40:15 PROPOSED LARGE VENUE BEFORE
18:40:16 YOU.
18:40:16 THE PROPOSED USE IS RESTAURANT
18:40:19 WITH A PROPOSED SPECIAL USE OF
18:40:20 LARGE VENUE, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR
18:40:23 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
18:40:24 THE SITE PLAN SHOWS TWO PHASES
18:40:26 FOR THIS PROPOSED USE, AND THE
18:40:27 MOST INTENSE WAS USED FOR ALL
18:40:29 CALCULATIONS.
18:40:31 THE PROPOSED ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
18:40:35 SALES AREA TOTALS 38,496.26
18:40:36 SQUARE FEET WITH AN INDOOR AREA
18:40:39 ACCOUNTING FOR 5,584 SQUARE
18:40:40 FEET, AND THE OUTDOOR AREA
18:40:45 ACCOUNTING FOR 32,912.26 SQUARE
18:40:45 FEET.
18:40:47 THE OCCUPANCY COUNT WAS
18:40:50 REVIEWED BY LDC, BUILDING, AND
18:40:52 FIRE REVIEWERS TO COME TO AN
18:40:54 OCCUPANCY COUNT OF 538 AS THE
18:40:56 MIDDLE PORTION OF THE AB AREA
18:40:58 IS BEING USED AS CORRIDOR.
18:40:58 THE REQUIRED PARKING IS
18:41:00 CALCULATED BY THE MOST INTENSE
18:41:02 OCCUPANT LOAD SHOWN OF 538
18:41:04 OCCUPANTS.
18:41:07 WE TIMES THAT BY .25 TO GET THE
18:41:10 135 REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
18:41:11 THE SITE SHOWS A PROPOSED 129
18:41:14 PROVIDED SPACES, WHICH IS A
18:41:16 REDUCTION OF SIX SPACES, A 4%
18:41:17 REDUCTION.
18:41:18 THE SITE PLAN STATES THE HOURS
18:41:19 OF OPERATION WILL BE
18:41:21 SUNDAY-SATURDAY, 9:00 A.M. TO
18:41:23 3:00 A.M., WITH NO AB SALES
18:41:25 BEFORE 11:00 A.M. ON SUNDAYS.
18:41:26 THE SITE PLAN STATES OUTDOOR
18:41:27 AMPLIFIED SOUND IS PERMITTED
18:41:30 UNTIL 11:00 P.M. SALES AREA
18:41:31 SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN THE
18:41:33 PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR
18:41:35 SPACE, AND ALL PERMITS ISSUED
18:41:38 AFTER APRIL 1ST, 2011, SHALL BE
18:41:40 KEPT ON-SITE, COPY OF ADOPTED
18:41:41 ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED SITE
18:41:44 PLAN FOR THE AB BEVERAGE SALES.
18:41:45 THE REQUESTED WAIVERS COME FROM
18:41:48 SECTION 27-283.12, TO REDUCE
18:41:49 THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING
18:41:52 SPACES FROM 135 TO 129, WHICH,
18:41:54 AGAIN, IS A 4% REDUCTION.
18:41:56 LAND DEVELOPMENT AND -- LAND
18:41:57 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND
18:41:58 TRANSPORTATION BOTH FOUND IT
18:42:00 INCONSISTENT WITH SECTION
18:42:03 27-283.7, DUE TO THE REQUIRED
18:42:07 NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
18:42:08 THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND
18:42:10 USE CATEGORY OF COMMUNITY MIXED
18:42:13 USE-35 AND PURSUANT TO TAMPA
18:42:14 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE
18:42:17 POLICY 6.1.7, IT IS IN A
18:42:20 MIXED-USE CORRIDOR CENTER.
18:42:21 IN A MIXED-USE CORRIDOR CENTER,
18:42:22 THE DISTANCE SEPARATION
18:42:24 REQUIREMENTS ARE 250 FEET FROM
18:42:26 OTHER AB ESTABLISHMENTS AND
18:42:27 RESIDENTIAL USES.
18:42:28 THERE'S NONE WITHIN THE 250
18:42:33 FEET.
18:42:35 I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU A MAP OF
18:42:36 THE AREA.
18:42:42 SO THE RED HIGHLIGHTED IS THE
18:42:45 -- THE PARENT ADDRESS IS 5411
18:42:48 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
18:42:51 THE TOP PICTURE HERE IS LOOKING
18:42:51 WEST.
18:42:52 THIS IS AT THE ENTRANCE.
18:42:54 THAT'S WHERE THE PRIVATE ROAD
18:42:55 STARTS, SO THIS WOULD BE THE
18:42:59 ENTRANCE TO 5411 WEST TYSON.
18:43:01 THE BELOW PICTURE IS LOOKING
18:43:05 EAST, DOWN WEST TYSON.
18:43:07 AND THIS PICTURE SHOWS LOOKING
18:43:09 NORTH ON TYSON AVENUE.
18:43:15 TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE
18:43:18 ADDRESS THAT WAS ASSIGNED FOR
18:43:20 -- I ROUGHLY SKETCHED THIS OUT
18:43:23 TO GIVE AN IDEA.
18:43:27 WHAT WAS SKETCHED IS 5415,
18:43:31 WHAT'S GOING TO BE IS THE 5411
18:43:34 FOR THE PLAN.
18:43:35 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY
18:43:35 QUESTIONS.
18:43:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS?
18:43:38 ALL RIGHT.
18:43:40 PETITIONER.
18:43:45 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
18:43:48 MY NAME IS JOSEPH DIAZ, OFFICE
18:43:51 3242 HENDERSON BOULEVARD, SUITE
18:43:53 210, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
18:43:55 VIPER VENTURES, LLC.
18:43:56 THE PARCEL IN QUESTION HAS
18:43:58 RECENTLY BEEN ASSIGNED AN
18:43:59 ADDRESS OF 5415 WEST TYSON
18:44:01 AVENUE; THAT IS, IF YOU TOOK
18:44:02 TYSON ALL THE WAY TO THE END
18:44:04 AND YOU REACHED THE WATER,
18:44:21 THERE IS A -- THIS WOULD BE THE
18:44:23 SOUTHERN END OF THE PARCEL.
18:44:25 THEN THE PARCEL PROCEEDS ALONG
18:44:28 THE WATER'S EDGE, AND IT WORKS
18:44:29 ITS WAY UP TO THE NORTHERN EDGE
18:44:32 OF THE PARCEL.
18:44:34 RYAN INDICATED TO YOU THAT THIS
18:44:37 WAS BEING DONE IN PHASE 1 AND
18:44:37 PHASE 2.
18:44:39 WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW
18:44:42 IS PHASE 1, AND UNDER PHASE 1,
18:44:44 THE OCCUPANCY LOAD THAT WAS
18:44:46 CALCULATED BY THE CITY BUILDING
18:44:47 DEPARTMENT, THE CITY FIRE
18:44:48 DEPARTMENT, AND THE LAND
18:44:52 DEVELOPMENT CODE IS WE HAVE
18:44:53 MORE THAN THE REQUIRED PARKING
18:44:55 PARKING.
18:44:57 YOU NEED TO HAVE 125 SPACES AND
18:44:59 WE HAVE 129 SPACES.
18:45:01 NOW, WE HOPE AT SOMETIME IN THE
18:45:03 FUTURE -- AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE
18:45:04 PRESENTING THIS IN A PHASE
18:45:08 1/PHASE 2 -- WE'RE HOPING TO BE
18:45:09 ABLE TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT
18:45:13 TO OBTAIN AN EASEMENT IN THIS
18:45:14 AREA RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THE
18:45:15 FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT ALLOW
18:45:19 US TO DEVELOP THAT NORTHERN END
18:45:20 OF THE PARCEL UNLESS THEY HAVE
18:45:25 ACCESS TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
18:45:29 IF WE'RE ABLE TO SECURE THAT,
18:45:31 THAT'S WHEN WE CAN THEN DEVELOP
18:45:33 A STRUCTURE OUT THERE.
18:45:35 ASSUMING THAT WE WERE
18:45:37 SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THAT
18:45:39 EASEMENT AND WE WERE ABLE TO
18:45:40 GET THE PERMITS AND WHAT HAVE
18:45:43 YOU, THAT'S WHEN WE FALL SHORT
18:45:45 ON THE PARKING.
18:45:47 UNTIL THAT EVENT OCCURS, WE
18:45:48 HAVE NO PARKING ISSUES
18:45:52 WHATSOEVER, OKAY.
18:45:54 I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE
18:45:55 STAFF REPORT, THAT WAS THE ONLY
18:45:59 OBJECTION IS THE FACT THAT WE
18:46:01 ARE SEEKING A WAIVER OF SOME
18:46:06 PARKING SPACES.
18:46:08 SIX TO BE EXACT.
18:46:11 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD NO
18:46:14 OBJECTIONS TO THIS, BUT FOR THE
18:46:16 PARKING WAIVER, THE CITY HAD NO
18:46:17 OBJECTIONS TO THIS.
18:46:19 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OTHER
18:46:22 WAIVERS WHATSOEVER IN THIS
18:46:24 DEVELOPMENT, WOULDN'T NEED ANY
18:46:26 IN PHASE 1 AT ALL AND WOULD
18:46:28 NEED THE SIX-SPACE WAIVER IF WE
18:46:32 END UP DOING PHASE 2.
18:46:34 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT
18:46:36 YOU APPROVE THIS APPLICATION,
18:46:37 AND SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY
18:46:38 QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN
18:46:39 GLAD TO ADDRESS THEM FOR YOU.
18:46:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS
18:46:44 TO THE PETITIONER?
18:46:45 MS. CAPIN.
18:46:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: FROM WHAT
18:46:47 YOU'RE SHOWING US, WHAT
18:46:47 RESIDENTIAL?
18:46:49 THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL NEAR
18:46:50 THERE, IS THERE?
18:46:50 WHAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL?
18:46:52 >> NO, THERE'S NO RESIDENCES
18:46:53 HERE.
18:46:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NEAR, CLOSE?
18:46:56 ANYTHING -- FROM WHAT I'M
18:46:56 LOOKING AT --
18:46:58 >> NO, WE DON'T NEED ANY
18:46:59 WAIVERS TO ANY RESIDENCES.
18:47:00 WE DON'T NEED ANY WAIVERS
18:47:01 WHATSOEVER.
18:47:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M ASKING WHAT
18:47:03 YOU HAVE.
18:47:05 >> THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE WOULD
18:47:08 BE BACK AT WESTSHORE.
18:47:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
18:47:10 THANK YOU.
18:47:11 THE OTHER THING IS YOUR HOURS.
18:47:12 >> YES.
18:47:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SUNDAY-SATURDAY
18:47:17 9:00 A.M. TO 3:00 A.M., AND
18:47:18 THEN SATURDAY NOT BEFORE 11:00
18:47:19 A.M.?
18:47:20 >> SUNDAY NOT BEFORE 11:00.
18:47:21 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, SUNDAY,
18:47:23 WHICH I THINK YOU CAN'T DO
18:47:23 ANYWAY.
18:47:24 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:47:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO THIS -- YOU
18:47:30 KNOW, FOR TWO MORE HOURS WE'RE
18:47:31 LOOKING AT CONSISTENT WITH
18:47:32 CHAPTER 14.
18:47:35 THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
18:47:38 SEE, CHAPTER 14.
18:47:40 >> CHAPTER 14 HOURS.
18:47:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: 7:00 A.M. TO
18:47:41 3:00 A.M.
18:47:43 >> YOU WANT US TO OPEN TWO
18:47:44 HOURS EARLIER?
18:47:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DON'T CARE
18:47:46 WHAT TIME YOU OPEN.
18:47:47 WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT'S
18:47:50 WHAT IS ALLOWED BY THE CITY,
18:47:52 AND CHAPTER 14 IS WHAT I
18:47:55 CONSISTENTLY LOOK AT FOR
18:47:58 PROTECTION OF THE CITY AND OF
18:48:01 THE CITIZENS.
18:48:02 >> WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY
18:48:03 REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE OUR
18:48:05 APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
18:48:08 WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS.
18:48:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YEAH, WE HAVE.
18:48:13 >> WE HAD IT AMONGST OUR
18:48:13 CLIENT.
18:48:15 I MEAN, I'VE HAD THIS
18:48:15 CONVERSATION --
18:48:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'VE HAD THIS
18:48:18 CONVERSATION ALL THE TIME HERE.
18:48:19 GO AHEAD.
18:48:21 >> COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, I'M WELL
18:48:24 AWARE OF THE FACT THAT YOU ARE
18:48:25 A CHAPTER 14 PROPONENT, I HEAR
18:48:30 YOU, OKAY, AND IF THIS IS GOING
18:48:32 TO TAKE THIS TO GET THIS MAJOR
18:48:33 DEVELOPMENT PROJECT DONE, THEN
18:48:35 I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO STIPULATE
18:48:36 TO IT, BUT TO BE QUITE CANDID
18:48:38 WITH YOU, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE
18:48:42 WOULD LIKE FOR THIS PROJECT.
18:48:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S UP TO
18:48:44 YOU.
18:48:45 THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL.
18:48:47 I'M JUST STATING WHAT I FEEL
18:48:49 WILL PROTECT THE CITY AND THE
18:48:57 CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
18:48:58 THAT'S MY STATEMENT.
18:49:00 THERE'S NO RESIDENTS NEAR, SO I
18:49:01 DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM -- I
18:49:02 DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY PROBLEM
18:49:04 WITH OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION.
18:49:09 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE THAT
18:49:10 RESTRICTS IT.
18:49:12 >> WE'VE RESTRICTED IT.
18:49:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU HAVE?
18:49:14 >> YES.
18:49:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S IT FOR
18:49:16 ME.
18:49:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. DIAZ, IT
18:49:20 LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY LARGE
18:49:24 PARCEL YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A
18:49:25 SPECIAL USE FOR.
18:49:26 IS THERE ANY PLANS IN TERMS OF
18:49:27 SIZE AND SCOPE AND BUSINESS
18:49:28 PLANS, THINGS LIKE THAT?
18:49:30 >> AT THE NORTHERN -- EXCUSE
18:49:32 ME, AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE
18:49:33 PARCEL, THAT'S GOING TO BE
18:49:34 DEVELOPED INITIALLY, AND
18:49:35 THERE'S GOING TO BE A
18:49:38 RESTAURANT THERE,
18:49:40 5,400-SQUARE-FOOT RESTAURANT
18:49:41 AND A DECK AREA ASSOCIATED WITH
18:49:43 THAT RESTAURANT, WHICH I
18:49:46 BELIEVE IS, LIKE, 2300 -- JUST
18:49:48 SHY OF 2400 SQUARE FEET.
18:49:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
18:49:49 >> THAT'S THE INITIAL
18:49:50 DEVELOPMENT.
18:49:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
18:49:52 I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY ASKING
18:49:55 FOR THE WHOLE PARCEL TO BE --
18:49:56 HAVE A SPECIAL USE, THAT'S THE
18:49:58 ONLY -- I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT
18:50:00 BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A
18:50:01 MUCH LARGER PIECE.
18:50:03 >> WELL, BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE
18:50:07 GOAL HOPEFULLY IS TO TAKE THAT
18:50:08 NORTHERN PARCEL, AND THEN WE
18:50:11 WOULD ERECT A STRUCTURE THERE,
18:50:12 ANOTHER RESTAURANT AREA THERE,
18:50:14 AND SO THIS IS JUST A CORRIDOR
18:50:15 THAT CONNECTS THE TWO
18:50:17 RESTAURANT FACILITIES, BUT AS I
18:50:18 SAY, YOU CAN'T BUILD THAT
18:50:20 RESTAURANT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE
18:50:21 DON'T HAVE EMERGENCY VEHICLE
18:50:22 ACCESS.
18:50:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT, RIGHT.
18:50:25 >> AND ONCE WE GET THAT -- BUT
18:50:27 THE HOPES ARE TO END UP WITH
18:50:28 TWO FREESTANDING BUILDINGS THAT
18:50:29 WOULD BE RESTAURANTS IS WHAT
18:50:30 THE GOAL IS.
18:50:31 >>MIKE SUAREZ: PERFECT.
18:50:32 AND THAT WOULD TAKE UP THE
18:50:34 ENTIRE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT
18:50:36 YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN TERMS OF
18:50:38 THE SU-2 OR NO?
18:50:41 I'M JUST CURIOUS.
18:50:41 >> OKAY.
18:50:43 IF I CAME ALONG, FOR SAKE OF
18:50:48 DISCUSSION, AND I DID SU-2 OVER
18:50:52 HERE AND I DID AN SU-2 ON THE
18:50:54 NORTHERN PARCEL, "A," HOW DO
18:50:55 YOU FREQUENT THAT AREA?
18:50:58 "B," YOU CAN'T LEAVE THIS AREA
18:51:00 AND WALK ALONG THE WATERFRONT
18:51:02 AND GO OVER TO THE OTHER
18:51:03 RESTAURANT WITH A DRINK IN YOUR
18:51:04 HAND.
18:51:05 YOU CAN'T DO IT.
18:51:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANKS.
18:51:07 >> AND I'D HAVE TO HAVE TWO
18:51:09 LIQUOR LICENSES BECAUSE THEY
18:51:10 WOULDN'T BE ONE CONTIGUOUS
18:51:11 PARCEL.
18:51:13 I'D HAVE TO PUT A LICENSE ON
18:51:14 THE NORTH END, A LICENSE ON THE
18:51:16 SOUTH END, AND YOU COULDN'T
18:51:17 WALK BACK AND FORTH.
18:51:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU ANSWERED THE
18:51:18 QUESTION.
18:51:19 IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT
18:51:20 IS GOING TO BE MORE CONNECTED
18:51:22 IN TERMS OF HAVING SCENIC VIEW
18:51:22 FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
18:51:24 THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET
18:51:24 AT.
18:51:25 APPRECIATE IT.
18:51:27 THANK YOU, MR. DIAZ.
18:51:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:51:28 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
18:51:28 COUNCIL?
18:51:29 ALL RIGHT.
18:51:30 ANYBODY -- ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC
18:51:32 THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
18:51:33 NO. 10?
18:51:34 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:51:36 >> SECOND.
18:51:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM
18:51:38 MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY
18:51:39 MR. MANISCALCO.
18:51:41 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
18:51:42 AYE.
18:51:42 ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
18:51:44 OKAY.
18:51:46 WHO WANTS TO READ NO. 10?
18:51:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'LL TAKE IT
18:51:48 CHAIR, IF YOU WANT.
18:51:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
18:51:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE'LL GET BACK
18:51:51 ON SCHEDULE.
18:51:52 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
18:51:53 I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE BEING
18:51:53 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
18:51:54 CONSIDERATION.
18:51:56 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPEWS
18:51:58 PERMIT, S-2, FOR ALCOHOLIC
18:52:00 BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE,
18:52:03 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY,
18:52:04 AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
18:52:05 BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
18:52:07 CONTENT, BEER, WINE, AND
18:52:08 LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT,
18:52:09 PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
18:52:13 AT 5415 WEST TYSON AVENUE,
18:52:15 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
18:52:16 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
18:52:17 SECTION 2; THAT ALL ORDINANCES
18:52:19 OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
18:52:20 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
18:52:21 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:52:22 >> SECOND.
18:52:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A
18:52:25 MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED
18:52:27 BY MR. MANISCALCO.
18:52:28 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
18:52:29 AYE.
18:52:30 THOSE OPPOSED.
18:52:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AYE.
18:52:32 NAY.
18:52:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:52:35 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
18:52:37 MOTION CARRIED, WITH CAPIN
18:52:40 VOTING NO AND VIERA ABSENT AT
18:52:40 VOTE.
18:52:41 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
18:52:43 WILL BE JULY 19TH AT 9:30 A.M.
18:52:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:52:48 NO. 11.
18:52:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN,
18:52:50 THAT IS A REQUEST FROM THE
18:52:52 PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE,
18:52:53 KATHERINE O'DONNILEY, ASKING
18:52:54 THAT THE APPLICATION BE
18:52:55 WITHDRAWN.
18:52:56 >> MOVE TO WITHDRAW.
18:52:57 >> SECOND.
18:52:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:52:59 HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN,
18:53:01 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA
18:53:03 WITHDRAWING ITEM NO. 11.
18:53:04 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY
18:53:04 AYE.
18:53:05 THOSE OPPOSED.
18:53:05 ALL RIGHT.
18:53:07 NEXT TO THE LAST ITEM OF THE
18:53:08 NIGHT.
18:53:09 NO. 12.
18:53:11 >> RYAN MANASSE, CITY OF TAMPA
18:53:13 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:53:13 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS
18:53:19 AB2-18-15, AT BUSCH BOULEVARD,
18:53:24 SUITES 105 TO 108.
18:53:27 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS
18:53:29 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL-35, CC-35.
18:53:30 STAFF FINDS IT INCONSISTENT
18:53:32 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
18:53:33 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
18:53:35 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A
18:53:37 SPECIAL USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW
18:53:38 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC
18:53:40 BEVERAGES, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR,
18:53:43 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
18:53:44 THE EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD SIDE
18:53:48 IS APPROVED FOR IT IN SEALED
18:53:51 CONTAINERS OFF PREMISES.
18:53:54 THE EXISTING USE IS A CIGAR BAR
18:53:56 WITH A SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE,
18:53:58 LIQUOR ON PREMISE ONLY.
18:53:58 THE PETITION HAS NOT CONSIDERED
18:54:02 A CHANGE OF USE.
18:54:05 THE PROPOSED AREA IS 5,018
18:54:08 SQUARE FEET INDOOR FOR A TOTAL
18:54:13 OF 5,514.06 SQUARE FEET.
18:54:14 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN STATES
18:54:16 NO AB SALES AREA WITHIN THE
18:54:17 PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR
18:54:18 SPACE, AND ALL PERMITS ISSUED
18:54:21 AFTER APRIL 1ST, 2011, SHALL BE
18:54:21 KEPT ON-SITE.
18:54:24 A COPY OF THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE
18:54:26 AND ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN,
18:54:26 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES
18:54:27 PERMIT.
18:54:28 THE SITE PLAN STATES THE HOURS
18:54:29 OF OPERATION WILL BE CONSISTENT
18:54:32 WITH CHAPTER 14.
18:54:35 [PHONE RINGING]
18:54:37 THE WAIVERS REQUESTED COME FROM
18:54:40 SECTION 137.2, ONE FOR THE
18:54:42 DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM AB
18:54:45 SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AND OTHER
18:54:46 FOR DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR
18:54:46 RESIDENTIAL USES.
18:54:48 BOTH REQUIRE 1,000 FEET.
18:54:50 THE CLOSEST AB ESTABLISHMENT TO
18:54:53 THE PETITION IS 335 FEET, AND
18:54:56 THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS 255
18:54:57 FEET.
18:54:58 LAND DEVELOPMENT DID FIND IT
18:55:00 INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE
18:55:00 DISTANCE SEPARATION
18:55:04 REQUIREMENTS LISTED.
18:55:06 THE CLOSEST AB SALES IS THE
18:55:08 MARATHON SERVICE STATION AT
18:55:09 1312 EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD,
18:55:10 WHICH IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
18:55:14 AT 2-APS LIQUOR LICENSE, AND
18:55:16 THAT'S AT THE 335 FEET, AND THE
18:55:17 CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS THE
18:55:18 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY AT
18:55:21 9212 NORTH 14TH STREET, WHICH
18:55:23 IS RESIDENTIAL,
18:55:26 SINGLE-FAMILY-50, AT 255 FEET.
18:55:30 GENERALLY, HART ROUTE 39 RUNS
18:55:32 WEEKDAYS FROM 4:30 A.M. TO
18:55:35 11:00 P.M. AND WEEKENDS 6:00
18:55:36 A.M. TO 11:00 P.M.
18:55:38 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A
18:55:39 MIXED-USE CORRIDOR VILLAGE AND
18:55:41 BUSCH BOULEVARD IS A TRANSIT
18:55:47 EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
18:55:53 HERE'S THE PETITION IN
18:55:53 QUESTION.
18:55:54 THE SUITE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING
18:55:57 ABOUT GOES FROM HERE TO THERE
18:56:01 IN THE STRIP CENTER.
18:56:04 TOP PICTURE IS THE FRONT OF THE
18:56:07 TAMPA HUMIDOR, AND LOOKING WEST
18:56:08 IN THE STRIP CENTER, YOU CAN
18:56:10 SEE THE OTHER OCCUPIED UNITS.
18:56:12 THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE
18:56:13 PARKING AREA.
18:56:14 THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON BUSCH
18:56:18 BOULEVARD.
18:56:20 TOP PICTURE'S LOOKING WEST ON
18:56:21 BUSCH BOULEVARD, AND DIRECTLY
18:56:25 ACROSS THE STREET FROM BUSCH.
18:56:27 AND THERE'S THE SITE PLAN FOR
18:56:27 ANY QUESTIONS.
18:56:29 STAFF IS AVAILABLE.
18:56:30 >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM CITY
18:56:32 COUNCIL FOR STAFF?
18:56:32 OKAY.
18:56:34 ANYONE ELSE FROM STAFF FOR NO.
18:56:36 12?
18:56:37 OKAY.
18:56:38 APPLICANT, IF YOU WOULD,
18:56:40 PLEASE, SIR.
18:56:41 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:56:42 CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER,
18:56:45 BRICKLEMYER LAW GROUP, HERE
18:56:46 REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY
18:56:47 OWNER.
18:56:48 RYAN DID A VERY GOOD SUMMARY.
18:56:49 IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL
18:56:51 SAY WE DO HAVE TWO WAIVERS.
18:56:52 THIS IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS
18:56:53 THAT'S DOING NICELY, BUT THEY
18:56:54 WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADD THE
18:56:56 LIQUOR SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A
18:56:58 BOURBON WITH YOUR CIGAR.
18:57:00 IT'S PRIMARILY A CIGAR BAR.
18:57:01 THE WAIVER SITUATION IS THE
18:57:03 SAME SITUATION TODAY AS IT WILL
18:57:05 BE IF THIS IS APPROVED, AND I
18:57:06 THINK THAT THIS MEETS THE
18:57:08 GENERAL STANDARDS AND WOULD ASK
18:57:08 FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
18:57:10 HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
18:57:11 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR
18:57:12 THE APPLICANT FROM COUNCIL?
18:57:14 OKAY.
18:57:15 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC --
18:57:16 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC
18:57:19 HERE TO TALK ON ITEM NO. 12?
18:57:20 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:57:21 >> SECOND.
18:57:22 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION
18:57:23 TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
18:57:25 MANISCALCO, WE HAVE A SECOND BY
18:57:25 COUNCILMAN COHEN.
18:57:26 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:57:27 ANY OPPOSED?
18:57:29 OKAY.
18:57:30 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, WOULD YOU
18:57:32 PLEASE TAKE ITEM NO. 12.
18:57:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, SIR.
18:57:37 WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
18:57:37 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
18:57:42 CONSIDERATION, AB2-18-15 FILE,
18:57:44 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
18:57:47 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION --
18:57:48 OOPS, FIRST READING.
18:57:48 SORRY.
18:57:49 SORRY.
18:57:49 OKAY.
18:57:50 I'M JUMPING HERE.
18:57:53 [LAUGHTER]
18:57:57 I WANT TO MOVE IT RIGHT ALONG.
18:57:58 IT'S CHAPTER 14.
18:57:59 [LAUGHTER]
18:58:02 NO, I'M JUST --
18:58:03 OKAY.
18:58:04 WE'LL START OVER.
18:58:05 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
18:58:07 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
18:58:08 ORDINANCE APPROVING SPECIAL USE
18:58:10 PERMIT, S-2, FOR ALCOHOLIC
18:58:12 BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
18:58:15 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY,
18:58:16 AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
18:58:18 BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF
18:58:20 ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE,
18:58:21 AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN
18:58:24 LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND
18:58:27 LOCATED AT 1418 EAST BUSCH
18:58:30 BOULEVARD, SUITES 105-108,
18:58:31 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
18:58:33 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
18:58:35 SECTION 3; THAT ALL ORDINANCES
18:58:37 OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
18:58:39 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
18:58:41 REPEALING ORDINANCE NO.
18:58:42 2018-38; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
18:58:43 DATE.
18:58:44 >> SECOND.
18:58:45 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION
18:58:47 BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, A SECOND
18:58:48 BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
18:58:49 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:58:50 ANY OPPOSED?
18:58:52 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK
18:58:53 ABSENT AT VOTE.
18:58:54 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
18:58:56 WILL BE ON JULY 19TH AT 9:30
18:58:56 A.M.
18:58:58 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
18:59:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:59:02 NOW -- OKAY.
18:59:03 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A
18:59:04 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK AND ADJOURN
18:59:08 FOR FIVE MINUTES, AND EVERYONE
18:59:09 THAT IS -- THAT IS OUR WISH AND
18:59:11 WE WILL PROCEED, AND I WOULD
18:59:12 ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE A
18:59:14 BREAK AS WELL.
18:59:16 >> IF I CAN, BEFORE YOU LEAVE,
18:59:18 THERE ARE PEOPLE -- EXCUSE ME.
18:59:20 >>LUIS VIERA: EVERYONE SHHH.
18:59:20 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
18:59:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN ORDER TO
18:59:23 ACCOMMODATE THE SPEAKERS, WE
18:59:25 ARE ASKING THAT IF YOU ARE NOT
18:59:26 SPEAKING, PLEASE ALLOW THE
18:59:28 SPEAKERS TO BE IN THE ROOM SO
18:59:30 THEY CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
18:59:32 TO SPEAK, AND AFTER THE
18:59:34 SPEAKERS FILL UP OR TAKE
18:59:35 WHATEVER SEATS THERE ARE, THEN
18:59:37 THE PEOPLE ON THE SPEAKER
18:59:38 WAIVER FORMS OR THOSE OTHERS
18:59:40 WHO WISH TO STAY CAN FILL IN
18:59:41 THE SEATS, BUT TO MOVE THINGS
18:59:43 ALONG, WE ASK -- AND THIS
18:59:44 APPLIES TO THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE
18:59:46 -- THAT THE SPEAKERS WHO INTEND
18:59:48 TO SPEAK ARE PRESENT IN THE
18:59:49 CHAMBERS TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.
18:59:50 THANK YOU.
18:59:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU,
18:59:51 EVERYBODY.
18:59:53 WE'LL SEE YOU IN FIVE MINUTES.
18:59:53 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
18:59:55 [BREAK TAKEN]
19:09:42 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
19:09:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
19:09:50 WE'RE GOING TO RESUME THIS
19:09:50 MEETING.
19:09:52 IT'S THE LAST ITEM OF THE
19:09:56 NIGHT, NO. 1.
19:09:58 LET'S KEEP IT GOING.
19:09:59 ALL RIGHT.
19:09:59 ROLL CALL.
19:10:05 LET ME GET ROLL CALL FIRST.
19:10:06 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
19:10:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
19:10:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
19:10:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
19:10:12 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
19:10:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
19:10:15 OKAY.
19:10:16 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING,
19:10:18 COUNCIL MEMBERS, DAVID HEY WITH
19:10:20 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:10:22 THE NEXT AMENDMENT FOR YOUR --
19:10:22 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
19:10:31 >>DAVID HEY: -- IS TA/CPA 17 --
19:10:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: CLOSE THE
19:10:33 DOOR, AND WE NEED YOU TO HOLD
19:10:34 YOUR VOICES WHILE WE GET
19:10:35 STARTED ON THIS.
19:10:35 ALL RIGHT.
19:10:36 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
19:10:37 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU.
19:10:37 THE AMENDMENT NEXT FOR YOUR
19:10:41 REVIEW IS TA/CPA 17-10.
19:10:43 I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW
19:10:46 THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX CASE,
19:10:49 YOU'RE NOT SURPRISED, BUT -- SO
19:10:49 OUR PLANNING COMMISSION
19:10:50 PRESENTATION WILL BE SLIGHTLY
19:10:53 LONGER THAN TYPICAL TO ENSURE
19:10:56 THAT THE -- ALL THE FACTS ARE
19:11:00 ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.
19:11:02 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN
19:11:03 THE WESTSHORE PLANNING
19:11:05 DISTRICT, MORE SPECIFICALLY,
19:11:07 IT'S ON ROCKY POINT.
19:11:07 YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE
19:11:12 NOTED ON THE MAP.
19:11:13 HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE
19:11:17 SUBJECT SITE.
19:11:19 THIS IS THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL
19:11:20 CAUSEWAY.
19:11:21 THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF ROCKY
19:11:22 POINT.
19:11:25 THIS IS THE BASIN, THE ROCKY
19:11:25 POINT BASIN.
19:11:26 YOU CAN SEE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN
19:11:28 THAT YELLOW COLOR.
19:11:31 THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE AREA
19:11:33 WHERE THE PLAN AMENDMENT IS
19:11:34 LOCATED.
19:11:37 AGAIN, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THE
19:11:41 SHORES, MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, TIA.
19:11:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE YOU
19:11:45 CONTINUE, LET ME ASK [OFF
19:11:45 MICROPHONE]
19:11:53 >> YES, COUNCIL.
19:11:58 FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC,
19:12:00 RULE 5-G STATES AS FOLLOWS NO
19:12:01 ONE PRESENT DURING A COUNCIL
19:12:02 MEETING SHALL ENGAGE IN
19:12:04 DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
19:12:05 INTENTIONALLY MAKING OR CAUSING
19:12:08 TO BE MADE ANY DISRUPTIVE SOUND
19:12:10 OR NOISE OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR
19:12:11 GRAPHICS IN A MANNER DISRUPTIVE
19:12:13 TO THE PROCEEDING AND HOLDING
19:12:14 UP -- I SEE, SEVERAL PEOPLE
19:12:16 HOLDING UP BLUE SIGNS.
19:12:17 THOSE COULD BE DEEMED TO BE
19:12:18 DISRUPTIVE.
19:12:19 I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO NOT
19:12:20 DISPLAY SIGNS DURING THE COURSE
19:12:21 OF THIS HEARING.
19:12:22 THANK YOU.
19:12:24 >> THANK YOU.
19:12:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
19:12:25 YOU MAY PROCEED.
19:12:27 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU.
19:12:32 A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE
19:12:34 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
19:12:36 IT IS PROPERLY INITIATED.
19:12:37 IT IS SMALL-SCALE.
19:12:38 IT'S APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES
19:12:39 IN SIZE.
19:12:42 CURRENTLY, IT IS WATER.
19:12:44 IT'S ZONED RM-24.
19:12:47 THAT'S THAT RESIDENTIAL,
19:12:49 MULTIFAMILY-24 ZONING DISTRICT.
19:12:50 IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WATER
19:12:52 IS NOT A FUTURE LAND USE
19:12:53 CATEGORY, IT'S JUST A
19:12:54 DESCRIPTION ON THE FUTURE LAND
19:12:57 USE MAP.
19:12:59 THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A
19:13:02 RESIDENTIAL-35 FUTURE LAND USE
19:13:04 CATEGORY.
19:13:08 HERE WE'LL TAKE A -- GO AROUND
19:13:09 AND TAKE SOME PICTURES OF THE
19:13:10 SUBJECT SITE.
19:13:12 HERE WE'RE LOOKING NORTHWEST
19:13:13 FROM THE SUBJECT SITE FROM
19:13:15 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE.
19:13:17 THIS IS SCARBOROUGH PARK IN THE
19:13:17 FRONT.
19:13:18 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED
19:13:25 HERE BEYOND THIS FENCE.
19:13:27 HERE WE'RE LOOKING NORTHEAST
19:13:30 FROM SCARBOROUGH PARK ACROSS A
19:13:36 PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:13:38 THIS PHOTO IS LOOKING NORTHEAST
19:13:40 ACROSS THE SUBJECT SITE TOWARD
19:13:43 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE,
19:13:44 SCARBOROUGH PARK.
19:13:47 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE, AND
19:13:48 THEN WESTIN CAN BE SEEN IN THE
19:13:50 PICTURE.
19:13:53 HERE WE'RE IN SCARBOROUGH PARK.
19:13:56 THE SUBJECT SITE IS BEHIND US
19:13:57 IN THE PHOTO.
19:13:58 THIS IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE
19:13:59 OFFICE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH
19:14:02 OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND ON THE
19:14:03 OTHER SIDE OF THE PARK.
19:14:04 AND THEN HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT
19:14:07 THE SCARBOROUGH PARK SIGN.
19:14:09 IT IS UNIQUE, IT IS A PRIVATE
19:14:11 PARK, IT IS NOT A CITY OF TAMPA
19:14:12 PARK.
19:14:17 NEXT, ON TO THE ADOPTED FUTURE
19:14:19 LAND USE MAP.
19:14:21 HERE'S THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION
19:14:22 OF THE THREE ACRES.
19:14:24 YOU COULD SEE THIS IS COURTNEY
19:14:26 CAMPBELL, NORTH ROCKY POINT
19:14:27 DRIVE EAST.
19:14:30 THIS PORTION, AND, REALLY,
19:14:32 SURROUNDING THE BASIN IS ALL
19:14:33 THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35
19:14:35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:14:38 TO THE NORTH IT GOES DOWN INTO
19:14:39 THE RESIDENTIAL-35 FUTURE LAND
19:14:41 USE CATEGORY.
19:14:42 SOUTH OF COURTNEY CAMPBELL
19:14:44 THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME URBAN
19:14:47 MIXED USE-60, AND THEN WE HAVE
19:14:48 MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE
19:14:50 AREAS TO THE NORTH AND SOME
19:14:52 PROPERTY IN UNINCORPORATED
19:14:56 COUNTY, RESIDENTIAL.
19:14:58 IF APPROVED, THE FUTURE LAND
19:15:02 USE MAP WOULD -- THIS PORTION
19:15:03 WOULD TURN TO THAT BROWN COLOR,
19:15:06 REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTIAL-35
19:15:07 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:15:14 THE -- JUST -- THIS CATEGORY IS
19:15:17 THE LEAST INTENSIVE CATEGORY
19:15:19 THAT ALLOWS FOR THE RM -- THE
19:15:23 EXISTING RM-24 ZONING.
19:15:27 EXISTING -- SINCE IT IS
19:15:29 CURRENTLY WATER, THERE'S NO
19:15:31 DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED SINCE THERE
19:15:34 IS NO FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:15:35 UNDER THE POTENTIAL, IF
19:15:37 PERMITTED TO FILL, WHICH IS A
19:15:39 SEPARATE PROCESS, THERE'S A
19:15:41 POTENTIAL FOR UP TO 105 UNITS
19:15:45 OR A MAXIMUM OF 78,408 SQUARE
19:15:48 FEET, AND, AGAIN, THAT IS THE
19:15:49 LEAST INTENSIVE CATEGORY THAT
19:15:52 ALLOWS FOR THAT RM-24.
19:15:54 AS PART OF PLANNING COMMISSION
19:15:56 REVIEW, IT IS SENT OUT TO
19:16:00 REVIEWING AGENCIES, AND THE ONE
19:16:03 OBJECTION CAME BACK FROM THE
19:16:04 CITY OF TAMPA PLANNING AND
19:16:05 URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT, AND
19:16:08 THEY'LL BE GIVING A
19:16:11 PRESENTATION AFTER THE PLANNING
19:16:11 COMMISSION.
19:16:13 BEFORE I MOVE INTO THE
19:16:15 CONSISTENCY FINDING, I WANTED
19:16:17 TO DISCUSS A FEW FACTS ON HOW
19:16:18 PLANNING COMMISSION VIEWED THE
19:16:20 PROPOSED REQUEST.
19:16:22 FIRST, THIS IS NOT A REQUEST TO
19:16:23 FILL.
19:16:26 IT DOES NOT PERMIT ANY FILL.
19:16:27 ANY PROPOSED FILL IS REVIEWED
19:16:29 AND APPROVED THROUGH A
19:16:30 COMPLETELY SEPARATE PERMITTING
19:16:31 PROCESS.
19:16:32 ALSO, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
19:16:33 REVIEWED THE DEFINITION OF
19:16:36 "WETLANDS" THAT'S CONTAINED IN
19:16:37 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND AS
19:16:39 DEFINED, PLANNING COMMISSION,
19:16:41 AT THIS EARLY STAGE, DETERMINED
19:16:43 THAT THE ROCKY POINT BASIN IS
19:16:45 NOT A WETLAND BY THAT ADOPTED
19:16:49 DEFINITION.
19:16:53 AGAIN, DELINEATION IS REQUIRED
19:16:58 AT TIME OF PERMITTING FOR ANY
19:17:00 -- WHEN EPC AND OTHER REVIEWING
19:17:03 AGENCIES WOULD REVIEW FOR THE
19:17:04 FILL.
19:17:08 THE OVERLY OUTLINE OF THE
19:17:08 PLANNING COMMISSION'S
19:17:10 CONSISTENCY FINDING TOUCHES ON
19:17:12 FIVE AREAS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
19:17:13 PLAN.
19:17:14 THERE'S POLICY DIRECTION ABOUT
19:17:16 THE CITY'S GROWTH STRATEGY,
19:17:18 INCLUDING ITS BUSINESS CENTERS,
19:17:21 WHICH WESTSHORE IS PART OF, THE
19:17:22 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,
19:17:25 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES, AND THE
19:17:29 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AND THE NO
19:17:30 NET INCREASE IN THAT COASTAL
19:17:31 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
19:17:32 PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED
19:17:32 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
19:17:34 FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST
19:17:36 FOR COMMUNITY MIXED USE -- FOR
19:17:39 THE RESIDENTIAL-35, EXCUSE ME,
19:17:40 WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:17:42 OVERALL ADOPTED POLICY GUIDANCE
19:17:43 WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:17:44 THE FIRST AREA OF CONSISTENCY
19:17:46 IS THE PROMOTION OF RESIDENTIAL
19:17:48 DEVELOPMENT IN THE BUSINESS
19:17:50 CENTERS, WHICH THE WESTSHORE
19:17:51 BUSINESS DISTRICT IS THE
19:17:53 STATE'S LARGEST OFFICE
19:17:55 DISTRICT, WITH A LARGE SEGMENT
19:17:57 OF PARCELS LOCATED WITHIN THE
19:17:57 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
19:18:02 POLICY 2.1 ENCOURAGES
19:18:03 HIGHER-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT
19:18:04 WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH
19:18:05 SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
19:18:07 THE RESIDENTIAL-35 IS
19:18:07 COMPARABLE TO THE SURROUNDING
19:18:10 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 FUTURE
19:18:11 LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:18:14 POLICY 9.4.1 SPECIFICALLY
19:18:16 ENCOURAGES HIGH-DENSITY
19:18:17 RESIDENTIAL IN THE CITY'S
19:18:18 BUSINESS CENTERS.
19:18:20 POLICY 9.6.3 ENCOURAGES AREAS
19:18:23 WITH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
19:18:24 DEVELOPMENT TO BE DESIGNATED
19:18:26 FOR ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY
19:18:28 RESIDENTIAL TO INCREASE OVERALL
19:18:30 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WHILE
19:18:33 INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY 1.1.18
19:18:35 PROMOTES A RESIDENTIAL
19:18:36 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN CONSISTENT
19:18:43 WITH THE COMPACT CITY FORM.
19:18:44 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE
19:18:46 OBJECTIVE 8.13 DIRECTS THAT ALL
19:18:48 EXISTING AND FUTURE LAND
19:18:49 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SHALL
19:18:50 BE MADE CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:18:52 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:18:56 THE ADOPTED ZONING OF RM-24
19:18:58 EXISTED AT THE TIME OF THE
19:18:59 ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
19:19:00 PLAN, AND NO KNOWN EFFORT HAS
19:19:03 BEEN UNDERTAKEN TO COMPLY WITH
19:19:04 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY.
19:19:06 THE CURRENT SITUATION, WITH
19:19:07 PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED AS
19:19:13 RM-24, HAD NOT HAD ANY FUTURE
19:19:14 LAND USE DESIGNATION, IS
19:19:16 INCONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED
19:19:17 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY,
19:19:18 ESPECIALLY LAND USE POLICY
19:19:21 8.13.2.
19:19:22 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD
19:19:24 BRING THE SITE INTO COMPLIANCE
19:19:25 BY PROVIDING A FUTURE LAND USE
19:19:28 DESIGNATION CONSISTENT WITH
19:19:30 CURRENT ADOPTED ZONING.
19:19:33 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
19:19:35 RECOGNIZES THE SEPARATE
19:19:41 PROCESSES OF FILL AND THE
19:19:44 POTENTIAL FOR DREDGING AND FILL
19:19:45 THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY
19:19:48 1.18.2, BY DIRECTING THE
19:19:50 PLANNING COMMISSION TO
19:19:52 RECOMMEND ITS APPROVAL TO
19:19:53 APPROPRIATE ENTITY ANY REQUESTS
19:19:56 THAT SEEK FILLING AND DREDGE
19:19:57 ACTIVITIES WITHIN AREAS OF
19:19:59 SIGNIFICANT SEAGRASS.
19:20:00 THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF
19:20:01 SEAGRASS OBSERVED BY THE SITE
19:20:02 OR PROVIDED BY MAPPING PROVIDED
19:20:06 BY THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER
19:20:07 MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
19:20:08 THAT MAPPING IS INCLUDED IN
19:20:09 YOUR PACKET.
19:20:12 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY 1.19.2
19:20:13 ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION OF
19:20:15 DREDGE-AND-FILL OPERATIONS,
19:20:17 BUT, AGAIN, RECOGNIZES THAT
19:20:18 THERE ARE SEPARATE PROCESSES
19:20:19 FOR DREDGING AND FILL
19:20:21 ACTIVITIES AND PERMITTING.
19:20:22 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES
19:20:23 SUPPORT THE PROTECTION AND
19:20:24 CONSERVATION OF REMAINING
19:20:28 COASTAL WETLANDS, LIVING MARINE
19:20:30 RESOURCES, AND WILDLIFE HABITAT
19:20:33 IN THE TAMPA BAY ESTUARY.
19:20:34 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
19:20:36 DETERMINED THAT THE MAN-MADE
19:20:37 LAGOON HAS ALREADY BEEN GREATLY
19:20:40 ALTERED SINCE THE 1920S, AND
19:20:42 YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORIC MAPS
19:20:44 WITH THOSE ALTERATIONS IN YOUR
19:20:45 PACKET, AND IS NOT LOCATED
19:20:47 WITHIN AN AREA OF SEAGRASS AS
19:20:49 IDENTIFIED BY THE SOUTHWEST
19:20:49 FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
19:20:51 DISTRICT OR AN AREA IDENTIFIED
19:20:52 AS SIGNIFICANT WILDLIFE HABITAT
19:20:54 ON THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE
19:20:55 MAP.
19:20:57 THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED ON
19:20:59 THE RECORD AT THE PLANNING
19:21:01 COMMISSION MEETING AND IN
19:21:02 DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED TO YOU
19:21:05 ALL IN YOUR PACKET TO HELP TO
19:21:07 IMPROVE OVERALL WATER QUALITY
19:21:10 BY SEEKING WAYS AT DEVELOPMENT
19:21:11 OF CAPTURING, COMBINING, AND
19:21:13 TREATING OFF-SITE PREVIOUSLY
19:21:16 UNTREATED RUNOFF WITH ON-SITE
19:21:17 STORMWATER.
19:21:18 THE PROJECT IS ABLE TO
19:21:20 DEMONSTRATE THE REQUIRED NET
19:21:21 IMPROVEMENT, REDUCTION IN
19:21:23 NUTRIENT RUNOFF INTO THE
19:21:24 HARBOR.
19:21:26 THIS EFFORT, IF FOLLOWED
19:21:27 THROUGH, THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT
19:21:28 IS CONSISTENT WITH POLICY
19:21:31 DIRECTION IN THE PLAN.
19:21:35 NEXT, THE -- NEXT, THE
19:21:35 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO SEEKS
19:21:38 TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE
19:21:43 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA TO USE
19:21:45 ENHANCED WATER-RELATED OR
19:21:46 WATER-DEPENDENT THAT ARE
19:21:47 CONSISTENT WITH THE PORT TAMPA
19:21:48 MASTER PLAN.
19:21:49 BASED ON THE ADOPTED
19:21:50 DEFINITIONS, RESIDENTIAL
19:21:51 DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED
19:21:53 A WATER-ENHANCED USE.
19:21:55 THE SUBJECT SITE ALSO HAS A
19:21:55 CURRENT RESIDENTIAL,
19:21:58 MULTI-FAMILY-24 ZONING
19:21:59 DESIGNATION.
19:22:00 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO
19:22:02 LIMIT, NOT PROHIBIT, NEW
19:22:03 DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH
19:22:05 HAZARD AREA TO USES VESTED OR
19:22:06 SHOWN ON THE FUTURE LAND USE
19:22:07 MAP.
19:22:11 DUE TO THE EXISTING RM-24
19:22:13 ZONING DISTRICT FOUND ON-SITE,
19:22:13 THE PROPOSAL FOR A
19:22:15 RESIDENTIAL-35 FUTURE LAND USE
19:22:16 DESIGNATION WOULD BE CONSISTENT
19:22:18 WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION
19:22:19 REGARDING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN
19:22:21 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
19:22:22 THOUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
19:22:23 SEEKS THE DIRECT POPULATION
19:22:26 GROWTH AWAY FROM THE COASTAL
19:22:27 HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE
19:22:28 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT
19:22:29 PROHIBIT CHANGES TO FUTURE LAND
19:22:31 USE DESIGNATIONS WITHIN AREAS
19:22:33 DESIGNATED AS COASTAL HIGH
19:22:34 HAZARD AREA.
19:22:35 THE PLAN PROMOTES A BALANCING
19:22:37 ACT OF PROVIDING NO NET
19:22:38 INCREASE.
19:22:39 TO EXPLAIN THE PLANNING
19:22:40 COMMISSION'S FINDING REGARDING
19:22:42 THE OBJECTIVE OF NO NET
19:22:44 INCREASE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED
19:22:50 TO GO BACK IN TIME SLIGHTLY.
19:22:51 YOU'VE SEEN ALL THAT ROCKY
19:22:52 POINT HAS BEEN ALTERED GREATLY
19:22:55 OVER ITS ENTIRE HISTORY.
19:22:57 IT USED TO BE A PENINSULA.
19:22:59 NOW IT'S AN ISLAND.
19:23:00 ONCE THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL WENT
19:23:02 THROUGH, IT WENT THROUGH A HUGE
19:23:05 -- A LONG EXTENDED PERIOD OF
19:23:07 TIME OF ALTERATIONS.
19:23:09 HERE WE HAVE WHAT THE ROCKY
19:23:11 POINT LOOKED LIKE BY 1995.
19:23:13 AGAIN, THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL.
19:23:15 YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT IS
19:23:16 SCATTERED THROUGHOUT, BUT
19:23:19 THERE'S STILL A VACANT LOT.
19:23:25 IF YOU MOVE FURTHER TO THE EAST
19:23:30 TOWARD -- FURTHER EAST DOWN --
19:23:32 THIS IS THE HYATT.
19:23:34 YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE
19:23:35 OF COURTNEY CAMPBELL THERE WAS
19:23:38 ABOUT 8.8 ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE
19:23:39 LAND.
19:23:41 IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 4,000 FEET
19:23:42 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:23:44 MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE LAND
19:23:45 WAS DEVELOPED FOR COMMERCIAL
19:23:49 USES AT THE TIME OF THIS PHOTO.
19:23:50 AT THE TIME, THESE PROPERTIES
19:23:51 WERE DESIGNATED AS HEAVY
19:23:53 COMMERCIAL-24, WHICH ALLOWED
19:23:55 CONSIDERATION OF UP TO 24
19:23:56 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OR A
19:23:58 MAXIMUM OF 1.5 FLOOR AREA
19:24:01 RATIO.
19:24:04 BEGINNING AROUND THE YEAR 2000,
19:24:06 THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
19:24:10 TRANSPORTATION ACQUIRED THESE
19:24:11 PROPERTIES TO ALLOW FOR THE
19:24:13 EXPANSION OF THE COURTNEY
19:24:14 CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY AND TO
19:24:17 CONSTRUCT BAYPORT DRIVE.
19:24:19 BASED ON THE HEAVY
19:24:20 COMMERCIAL-24 FUTURE LAND USE
19:24:22 DESIGNATION, THIS 8.82 ACRES OF
19:24:24 PROPERTY HERE COULD HAVE BEEN
19:24:26 CONSIDERED FOR A MAXIMUM OF 211
19:24:26 UNITS.
19:24:28 THE REMOVAL OF THESE SITES AND
19:24:29 THEIR DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL
19:24:30 REDUCED THE OVERALL DENSITY
19:24:31 WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
19:24:33 AREA.
19:24:35 BASED ON THIS INFORMATION AND
19:24:36 THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THIS
19:24:38 AREA TO THE SUBJECT SITE,
19:24:38 PLANNING COMMISSION HAS
19:24:39 DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED
19:24:41 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT
19:24:43 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT
19:24:45 OF THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT
19:24:46 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES AND
19:24:48 WOULD NOT PROVIDE FOR A NET
19:24:49 INCREASE IN POPULATION WITHIN
19:24:51 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
19:24:54 BASED ON THE HISTORY OF THIS
19:24:56 SURROUNDING AREA.
19:24:58 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND A
19:24:59 NUMBER OF UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES
19:25:02 PERTAINING TO THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:25:03 THOUGH THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT
19:25:05 LOCATED -- IT'S NOT LOCATED
19:25:07 WITHIN THE ROCKY POINT DRI, THE
19:25:09 SUBJECT SITE'S SOLE ACCESS
19:25:11 WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROCKY
19:25:13 POINT DRI.
19:25:15 THAT DRI, THEY -- IT IS NOT
19:25:16 CURRENTLY DEVELOPED OUT TO ITS
19:25:18 POTENTIAL.
19:25:19 ITS INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESIGNED
19:25:25 TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL --
19:25:26 ADDITIONAL DENSITY WITHIN THE
19:25:30 DRI.
19:25:31 THE -- ALSO, DUE TO THE
19:25:32 REQUIRED ACCESS MANAGEMENT
19:25:33 THROUGH THE PRIVATELY OWNED
19:25:35 PARK, WHICH ALL THAT
19:25:36 DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED
19:25:39 TO YOU, BASED ON THAT PRIVATE
19:25:41 AGREEMENT, THE SITE COULD NOT
19:25:43 BE DEVELOPED WITH GREATER THAN
19:25:45 16 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
19:25:46 THE APPLICANT, IN ACCORDANCE
19:25:47 WITH THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT
19:25:49 ELEMENT OF THE TAMPA
19:25:50 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WILL BE
19:25:51 REQUIRED TO MITIGATE THE
19:25:53 HURRICANE EVACUATION SHELTER IN
19:25:54 ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOCAL
19:25:56 MITIGATION STRATEGY ADOPTED BY
19:25:57 CITY COUNCIL PURSUANT TO
19:26:01 RESOLUTION NO. 99-1864.
19:26:02 IF THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT
19:26:04 IS APPROVED AND THE DEVELOPER
19:26:05 PROCEEDS, THE ISSUES OF THE
19:26:07 ROADWAY NETWORK AND CLEARANCE
19:26:09 TIMES ALONG EVACUATION ROUTES
19:26:11 WILL BE REVIEWED DURING THE
19:26:12 REZONING PROCESS, IN ACCORDANCE
19:26:14 WITH ADOPTED EVACUATION PLANS
19:26:15 AND LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:26:16 REGULATIONS.
19:26:19 BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, THE
19:26:19 PLANNING COMMISSION HAS
19:26:20 DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED
19:26:21 AMENDMENT WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY
19:26:24 IMPACT ESTABLISHED HURRICANE
19:26:26 EVACUATION TIMES AND THAT
19:26:28 ADDITIONAL REVIEW WILL OCCUR AT
19:26:30 THE TIME OF PERMITTING, IF
19:26:32 APPROVED.
19:26:33 BASED ON THAT, THE
19:26:35 RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
19:26:36 PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO FIND
19:26:39 TA/CPA 17-10 CONSISTENT WITH
19:26:41 THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
19:26:42 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:26:44 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
19:26:46 I BELIEVE CITY STAFF HAS A
19:26:48 PRESENTATION AS WELL.
19:26:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. HEY, I JUST
19:26:52 HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
19:26:54 HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE EVER
19:26:55 SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
19:26:56 I MEAN, BECAUSE, LET'S FACE IT,
19:26:57 EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY ON
19:27:00 THERE HAS TO DO WITH LAND USE,
19:27:02 AND LAST TIME I LOOKED, THAT
19:27:04 BLUE STUFF AIN'T LAND, SO WHEN
19:27:06 WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS
19:27:07 KIND OF FILL FROM A DREDGED
19:27:09 AREA OR FILL-IN?
19:27:10 DO YOU KNOW?
19:27:13 I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN
19:27:15 AROUND FOR A FEW YEARS.
19:27:16 >>DAVID HEY: WELL, IN OUR
19:27:17 REVIEW, PRIVATE FILL, IT'S BEEN
19:27:18 QUITE A WHILE.
19:27:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
19:27:20 >>DAVID HEY: PUBLIC --
19:27:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHAT I'M
19:27:24 TALKING ABOUT, PRIVATE FILL.
19:27:25 >>DAVID HEY: PRIVATE FILL.
19:27:27 IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SINCE THE
19:27:28 '70S.
19:27:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: '70S.
19:27:31 THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
19:27:32 I DON'T REMEMBER ANY LARGE FILL
19:27:34 PROJECT LIKE THIS HAVING
19:27:36 HAPPENED ANYTIME RECENTLY.
19:27:38 >>DAVID HEY: PRIVATE, YES.
19:27:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN THOSE
19:27:40 CIRCUMSTANCES, I DON'T KNOW IF
19:27:41 YOU DID THE RESEARCH ON IT,
19:27:41 WHAT DID YOU FIND?
19:27:42 ARE THE CONDITIONS ESSENTIALLY
19:27:44 THE SAME AS THEY ARE NOW HERE
19:27:47 OR WERE THERE SUBMERGED LAND
19:27:49 THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO FILL IN
19:27:50 IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW,
19:27:51 MORE HOUSING, OR WAS IT
19:27:53 SOMETHING ELSE?
19:27:55 >>DAVID HEY: BELIEVE THEY WERE
19:27:56 DREDGE AND FILL FOR CANALS,
19:28:01 LIKE DANA SHORES IS ONE, APOLLO
19:28:02 BEACH IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
19:28:05 WE HAVE MIRA BAY, I THINK --
19:28:07 BELIEVE DID SOME DREDGING.
19:28:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MOST WERE
19:28:09 CANALS, THOUGH, PRIMARILY?
19:28:11 >>DAVID HEY: MOSTLY FOR CANALS.
19:28:13 I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT JUST
19:28:15 FILLED IN, BUT, AGAIN, ROCKY
19:28:17 POINT HAS BEEN GREATLY ALTERED
19:28:18 OVER ITS HISTORY.
19:28:19 IT DOESN'T REPRESENT ANYTHING
19:28:22 THAT IT DID IN 1921 WHEN WE
19:28:23 PULLED THE MAP.
19:28:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, THAT IS
19:28:25 TRUE, AND WE KNOW THAT, YOU
19:28:27 KNOW, THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN
19:28:28 TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE FOR
19:28:31 ZONING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO
19:28:32 WE UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
19:28:33 I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. HEY.
19:28:33 THANK YOU.
19:28:36 >>DAVID HEY: SURE.
19:28:42 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.
19:28:44 REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
19:28:46 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE
19:28:48 LEGAL POINTS BASED UPON SOME OF
19:28:49 THE THINGS THAT WERE PRESENTED
19:28:51 TO YOU BY THE PLANNING
19:28:52 COMMISSION IN THEIR REPORT
19:28:53 BECAUSE THE CITY HAS A
19:28:55 DIFFERENT LEGAL POSITION, AND I
19:28:56 WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO
19:28:58 YOU BEFORE WE GOT MUCH FURTHER.
19:29:01 OBJECTIVE 8.13 DOES STATE THAT
19:29:03 ALL EXISTING AND FUTURE LAND
19:29:04 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SHALL
19:29:05 BE MADE CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:29:05 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:29:07 IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE
19:29:08 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECOMES
19:29:10 CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING.
19:29:12 BY THAT, I'M MOT SAYING THAT
19:29:13 YOU CAN'T APPROVE THIS, BUT I'M
19:29:14 SAYING THAT YOU ARE NOT
19:29:17 OBLIGATED TO APPROVE IT.
19:29:18 BEYOND THAT, I AM ALSO SAYING
19:29:20 THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE
19:29:21 IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THERE
19:29:24 BEING A ZONING ON THE PROPERTY
19:29:25 AND THERE BEING A DESIGNATION
19:29:30 OF WATER AND NOT ANOTHER LAND
19:29:32 USE CATEGORY ON THAT.
19:29:33 I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE
19:29:34 UNDERSTANDS THIS, SO I'M GOING
19:29:36 TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT
19:29:39 EVERY PIECE OF LAND AND WATER
19:29:42 IN THE CITY HAS A ZONING, TAMPA
19:29:43 BAY, THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER,
19:29:44 MCKAY BAY.
19:29:46 ALL OF THAT HAS A ZONING.
19:29:47 YOUR ZONING CODE EXPRESSLY
19:29:50 STATES THAT THE ZONING AFFECTS
19:29:53 ALL LAND AND WATER.
19:29:54 IF THERE'S NO ABILITY TO BUILD
19:29:56 IN THE MIDDLE OF TAMPA BAY, WHY
19:29:57 DO WE DO THAT?
19:29:58 WELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE
19:29:58 REASONS.
19:29:59 THERE ARE SOME LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:30:00 CODE REGULATIONS AND
19:30:02 REGULATIONS THAT NEED TO APPLY
19:30:03 WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE THE
19:30:05 ABILITY TO BUILD EVEN ONE
19:30:05 RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
19:30:07 FOR EXAMPLE, ALCOHOL SALES.
19:30:10 THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO
19:30:11 HAVE A BUILDING THAT COULD
19:30:12 POTENTIALLY BE ON A BOAT, AND
19:30:14 SO THAT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED.
19:30:17 SIGNS IS ANOTHER ONE.
19:30:20 THE WAY THAT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE
19:30:21 PLAN AND YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:30:24 CODE ARE SET UP IS THAT DENSITY
19:30:25 -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE DENSITY TO
19:30:26 BE ABLE TO BUILD.
19:30:27 THAT DETERMINES HOW MANY UNITS
19:30:30 YOU CAN BUILD OF RESIDENTIAL.
19:30:32 IF YOU HAVE ZERO, YOU CAN'T
19:30:33 BUILD ANYTHING.
19:30:35 AND THAT IS DETERMINED BY
19:30:35 UPLANDS.
19:30:37 YOU HAVE TO HAVE UPLANDS.
19:30:39 NOW, IF YOU HAVE A PORTION OF
19:30:42 YOUR UPLANDS FROM, SOME
19:30:43 WETLANDS, OR SOME WATER, YOU
19:30:45 CAN POTENTIALLY TRANSFER THOSE
19:30:47 RIGHTS ONTO YOUR UPLANDS, BUT
19:30:48 WITHOUT UPLANDS, YOU DON'T HAVE
19:30:50 ANY DENSITY, SO RIGHT OUTSIDE
19:30:53 OF THIS AREA THE ZONING IS
19:30:55 RS-60, BUT THERE'S NO DENSITY
19:30:56 THERE, SO THERE'S NO REASONABLE
19:30:59 EXPECTATION THAT YOU WOULD DO
19:30:59 THAT.
19:31:00 NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU
19:31:01 MIGHT NOT FIND THIS
19:31:02 APPROPRIATE, BUT I'M TELLING
19:31:04 YOU YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED UNDER
19:31:07 THE PLAN TO APPROVE THIS, AND I
19:31:10 WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
19:31:12 AND I ALSO -- FOR EXAMPLE -- I
19:31:13 WANT TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF
19:31:14 THAT.
19:31:17 THE CITY DOES ALLOW HOUSEBOATS
19:31:18 IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT
19:31:20 TO EVEN HAVE THE DENSITY FOR A
19:31:21 RESIDENTIAL HOUSEBOAT, YOU HAVE
19:31:22 TO HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO OWN THE
19:31:24 ADJOINING UPLANDS BECAUSE,
19:31:25 AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE THE
19:31:26 DENSITY FOR YOUR HOUSEBOAT IN
19:31:27 THE MIDDLE OF THE RIVER UNLESS
19:31:29 YOU HAVE SOME UPLANDS FOR WHICH
19:31:31 TO GET THAT DENSITY FROM.
19:31:32 THERE WAS ALSO MENTION OF THE
19:31:32 DRI.
19:31:35 I THINK IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT
19:31:36 THIS PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE
19:31:38 DRI, BUT WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY
19:31:40 TO YOU IS THAT ANY OF THOSE
19:31:41 ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE
19:31:42 GO TO THE DRI.
19:31:44 THEY CAN STILL BE UTILIZED, SO
19:31:46 TO SAY THAT THERE ARE EXTRA
19:31:48 ONES OUT THERE THAT CAN COUNT
19:31:49 TOWARDS THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
19:31:52 I THINK IS SOMEWHAT CONFUSING
19:31:53 BECAUSE PEOPLE ON ROCKY POINT
19:31:54 WHO ARE PART OF THE DRI CAN
19:31:57 COME IN AT ANY TIME, THEY MAY
19:31:59 HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS,
19:32:00 I'M NOT SAYING THEY CAN JUST
19:32:02 USE THEM, THEY MAY HAVE TO GO
19:32:04 THROUGH A PROCESS, BUT THEY ARE
19:32:06 STILL OUT THERE, AND THOSE ARE
19:32:06 ACTUALLY VESTED.
19:32:08 I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MORE
19:32:09 LEGAL ISSUES ALONG THE WAY, BUT
19:32:10 I WANTED TO GET THOSE
19:32:12 CLARIFICATIONS UP FRONT.
19:32:26 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL,
19:32:34 LACHONE DOCK, PLANNING AND
19:32:35 DEVELOPMENT.
19:32:37 COUNCIL, THIS IS CPA 17-10, AND
19:32:40 THE REQUEST IS A FUTURE LAND
19:32:42 USE AMENDMENT TO AN R-35
19:32:43 CATEGORY.
19:32:45 CURRENTLY, IT IS A BODY OF
19:32:47 WATER, SO THERE'S NO LAND USE
19:32:48 CATEGORY.
19:32:49 WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS REVIEW
19:32:52 WITH YOU SOME OF THE COMMENTS
19:32:53 FOUND WITHIN THE CITY STAFF
19:32:55 REPORT, AS PROVIDED FOR YOU
19:32:56 WITHIN THE PACKET.
19:32:59 FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO ADDRESS,
19:33:02 UNDER CHAPTER 27, SECTION 27-8,
19:33:04 IT DOES STATE ZONING AFFECTS
19:33:05 ALL LANDS, WATER, STRUCTURES,
19:33:08 USES, AND OCCUPANCIES, SO NO
19:33:11 BUILDING STRUCTURE, LAND OR
19:33:13 WATER SHALL BE USED TO OCCUPY,
19:33:14 NO BUILDING STRUCTURE OR PART
19:33:16 THEREOF SHALL BE ERECTED,
19:33:18 CONSTRUCTED, RECONSTRUCTED,
19:33:21 MOVED, LOCATED, OR STRUCTURALLY
19:33:22 ALTERED, EXCEPT IN CONFORMITY
19:33:23 WITH THE REGULATIONS SET OUT
19:33:25 GENERALLY IN THIS CHAPTER AND
19:33:27 FOR THE DISTRICT IN WHICH IT IS
19:33:27 LOCATED.
19:33:29 SO IN CLARIFICATION OF THE
19:33:32 FORGOING, IT IS THE SPECIFIC
19:33:33 INTENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT
19:33:35 ALL FLOATING STRUCTURES AND
19:33:36 BUILDINGS AND BUILDINGS AND
19:33:38 STRUCTURES BUILT OVER WATER
19:33:40 SHALL MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OF
19:33:42 THIS CHAPTER AND ALL OTHER
19:33:43 APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THIS
19:33:45 CODE.
19:33:46 SO THAT IS INTENDED TO MEAN
19:33:49 STRUCTURES SUCH AS DOCKS THAT
19:33:52 EXTEND OUT OVER WATER, NOT JUST
19:33:54 WATER, SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE,
19:33:56 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU, IS THE
19:33:58 REQUEST FOR THE LAND USE OVER
19:34:00 WATER, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE AN
19:34:01 EXISTING LAND USE BECAUSE IT IS
19:34:03 JUST WATER.
19:34:10 THIS IS THE ZONING ATLAS FOR
19:34:11 THAT AREA.
19:34:14 THIS IS COURTNEY CAMPBELL, SO
19:34:16 THIS IS THE ROCKY POINT AREA.
19:34:17 YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ZONING
19:34:20 ATLAS, THIS IS IDENTIFIED AS
19:34:21 RM-24.
19:34:23 WHEN THE ZONING ATLAS WAS
19:34:25 CREATED IN 1987, THE ZONING
19:34:29 DESIGNATIONS WENT OVER THE
19:34:30 WATER, AND AS MENTIONED, IT
19:34:33 GOES OVER HALF THE BAY.
19:34:35 SO THIS IS LISTED AS RM-24,
19:34:38 WHICH IS A ZONING DESIGNATION,
19:34:39 BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S IDENTIFIED
19:34:41 AS A HARBOR BECAUSE THERE
19:34:42 ALWAYS HAS BEEN WATER THERE AT
19:34:44 THAT LOCATION.
19:34:51 AND THEN ALSO, THIS IS JUST AN
19:34:53 AERIAL OF THE ZONING ATLAS, SO
19:34:54 HAD IS THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL.
19:34:56 THIS IS THE ROCKY POINT AREA.
19:34:57 THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S
19:34:59 IDENTIFIED IN RED, THE PROPERTY
19:35:00 UNDER THE REQUEST CURRENTLY,
19:35:04 AND THIS IS THE RM-24 ZONING
19:35:06 DESIGNATION, WHICH EXTENDS OUT
19:35:08 INTO WATER.
19:35:15 NOW, CITY PLANNING STAFF FINDS
19:35:17 THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
19:35:18 THE FOLLOWING POLICY, WHICH IS
19:35:20 LAND USE POLICY 4.2.2, WHICH
19:35:22 STATES, TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN
19:35:23 PEDESTRIAN AND NEIGHBORHOOD
19:35:25 AMENITIES SUCH AS STREET TREES,
19:35:27 BENCHES, PUBLIC ART, PLAZAS,
19:35:28 AND NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
19:35:31 SO THE ACCESS IS PROPOSED FOR
19:35:33 THIS -- FOR THIS ACTUAL PARCEL
19:35:34 OR BODY OF WATER TO THE SOUTH,
19:35:37 WHICH IS THROUGH THE PARK WHICH
19:35:40 EXISTS ALONG THE BORDER OF THE
19:35:43 SOUTH OF THAT AREA, AND STAFF
19:35:45 HAS CONCERNS WITH THAT ACCESS
19:35:50 BEING THROUGH THAT PARK, WITH
19:35:52 THAT OPEN SPACE IN THAT PARK
19:35:54 AREA.
19:35:57 KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE R-35
19:36:00 LAND USE CATEGORY ALLOWS
19:36:02 TYPICAL BUILDING HEIGHTS UP TO
19:36:05 EIGHT STORIES, GIVEN THIS SITE
19:36:07 IS APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES,
19:36:09 THIS ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF
19:36:13 78,408 SQUARE FEET OR 105
19:36:14 DWELLING UNITS.
19:36:15 THIS REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT
19:36:18 WITH THE FOLLOWING LAND USE
19:36:20 POLICIES.
19:36:20 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
19:36:23 APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED AN
19:36:26 AGREEMENT THAT WAS ENTERED INTO
19:36:29 THROUGH A THIRD PARTY, IT'S A
19:36:30 SEPARATE AGREEMENT FROM THE
19:36:31 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS,
19:36:33 IT'S SEPARATE FROM ANY REZONING
19:36:34 PROCESS, IT'S SEPARATE FROM ANY
19:36:36 BUILDING -- ANY BUILDING PERMIT
19:36:37 THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE.
19:36:40 WE HAVE NO WAY OF TRACKING THAT
19:36:42 AGREEMENT, SO WE DO NOT ASSESS
19:36:43 IT AT -- BASED ON WHAT IS
19:36:46 STATED THROUGH THE AGREEMENT.
19:36:47 WE LOOK AT THE MAXIMUM
19:36:49 DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THAT
19:36:50 WOULD BE GRANTED IF THIS LAND
19:36:54 USE IS APPROVED AT ANY POINT IN
19:36:56 THE FUTURE, SO THE -- THESE ARE
19:36:57 THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES
19:36:58 THAT WE FIND IT INCONSISTENT
19:37:00 WITH, AND IT'S COASTAL
19:37:03 MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.1, WHICH
19:37:04 STATES, DIRECT FUTURE
19:37:06 POPULATION CONCENTRATIONS AWAY
19:37:07 FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
19:37:10 AREA SO AS TO ACHIEVE NO NET
19:37:11 INCREASE IN OVERALL RESIDENTIAL
19:37:14 DENSITY WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
19:37:14 HAZARD AREA.
19:37:17 ALSO, COASTAL MANAGEMENT POLICY
19:37:19 1.1.6, WHICH STATEMENTS TO
19:37:21 LIMIT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE
19:37:22 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA TO
19:37:23 USES THAT ARE VESTED OR SHOWN
19:37:25 ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND
19:37:27 DEFINED IN THE URBAN DESIGN AND
19:37:30 LAND USE ELEMENT.
19:37:32 SO IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU
19:37:34 THAT IT IS BELIEVED THERE'S NO
19:37:37 NET RESIDENTIAL INCREASE AS
19:37:38 PART OF WHAT'S BEING
19:37:40 CONSIDERED, AND WHAT I'VE DONE
19:37:43 IS PROVIDED THE AERIALS, WHICH
19:37:44 ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN
19:37:45 EARLIER.
19:37:47 SO THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM 2002
19:37:49 PRIOR TO THE EXPANSION OF THE
19:37:50 INTERSTATE.
19:37:50 THIS IS COURTNEY CAMPBELL
19:37:52 CAUSEWAY.
19:37:54 THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS
19:37:56 OUTLINED IN ORANGE.
19:37:59 THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM 2017,
19:38:00 AND THIS, OF COURSE, WOULD BE
19:38:01 AFTER THE EXPANSION.
19:38:04 SO THE -- THE ZONINGS THAT ARE
19:38:05 ON THE PROPERTY WERE
19:38:06 COMMERCIAL.
19:38:08 THE ZONING AND THE USES WERE
19:38:09 COMMERCIAL, SO TO STATE THAT
19:38:12 THE REMOVAL OF THOSE PROPERTIES
19:38:14 DUE TO THE WIDENING WOULD
19:38:16 REDUCE THE RESIDENTIAL THAT
19:38:19 EXISTED -- THE USES WERE
19:38:21 COMMERCIAL, THE ZONING WAS
19:38:21 COMMERCIAL ON THOSE PARCELS
19:38:24 THAT EXISTED THERE.
19:38:27 AND THEN, OF COURSE, [OFF
19:38:28 MICROPHONE] THOSE PARCELS ARE
19:38:29 GONE.
19:38:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
19:38:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO MAKE
19:38:32 SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING
19:38:35 WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT THE
19:38:39 USE OF THIS -- THE COMMERCIAL
19:38:41 PROPERTY TO MITIGATE, IF YOU
19:38:47 WILL, OR -- THE RESIDENTIAL
19:38:48 DENSITY DOES NOT QUALIFY --
19:38:50 WOULD NOT -- YOU KNOW, YOU SAID
19:38:56 THERE WAS A NET -- NO NET --
19:38:59 >> NO NET INCREASE.
19:39:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: RIGHT.
19:39:00 THANK YOU.
19:39:06 NO NET INCREASE.
19:39:08 SO THIS IS USED AS THE REASON
19:39:09 -- ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
19:39:10 THERE'S NO NET INCREASE, BUT
19:39:11 YOU'RE SAYING THIS WAS
19:39:12 COMMERCIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL?
19:39:13 >> CORRECT.
19:39:14 I'M SAYING THAT WE DON'T COUNT
19:39:15 THAT AS THAT.
19:39:17 THAT IS NOT HOW WE SEE THAT.
19:39:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
19:39:19 >> BECAUSE THE USES WERE
19:39:20 COMMERCIAL, THE ZONING WAS
19:39:22 COMMERCIAL ON THOSE PARCELS.
19:39:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
19:39:24 I UNDERSTOOD YOU WELL.
19:39:31 THANK YOU.
19:39:35 >> AND IT HAD THE HC-24
19:39:37 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS THE HEAVY
19:39:38 COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS DESIGNATED
19:39:42 FOR AREAS SUITABLE FOR HEAVY OR
19:39:44 INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES.
19:39:46 GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE
19:39:48 USES ARE ALSO PERMITTED, AND
19:39:49 DUE TO CONFLICT BETWEEN HEAVY
19:39:51 OR INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL
19:39:52 ACTIVITY AND RESIDENTIAL
19:39:53 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL USES
19:39:56 ARE DISCOURAGED EXCEPT IN
19:39:58 APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS WITH SITE
19:40:00 PLAN CONTROL DISTRICTS.
19:40:02 SO OUR POINT IS THAT THOSE USES
19:40:03 WERE COMMERCIAL THAT WERE
19:40:04 THERE.
19:40:08 ALSO, THE OTHER CLAIM WITH THE
19:40:11 NO NET INCREASE WAS THE
19:40:12 DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AVAILABLE
19:40:14 UNDER THE DRI, SO IT HAS BEEN
19:40:16 STATED, AND LIKE I MENTIONED
19:40:18 AND STAFF MENTIONED, THIS
19:40:19 REQUEST IS NOT A PART OF THE
19:40:21 DRI, SO THIS IS A MAP OF THE
19:40:23 ROCKY POINT DRI.
19:40:27 THIS IS THE AREA UNDER THE
19:40:29 REQUEST THIS EVENING, AND AS
19:40:31 YOU CAN SEE ON THE DRI MAP,
19:40:32 THIS IS IDENTIFIED AS HARBOR.
19:40:34 ALSO, IT'S IDENTIFIED AS A
19:40:36 PRESERVATION AREA, BUT THIS
19:40:38 AREA IS EXCLUDED FROM THAT DRI
19:40:42 AREA.
19:40:44 SO CURRENTLY THE DRI -- JUST TO
19:40:45 GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF
19:40:46 BACKGROUND, THE DRI WAS
19:40:49 APPROVED IN '87.
19:40:51 THAT DRI ONLY APPLIES TO THE
19:40:53 PROPERTIES WHICH WERE LEGALLY
19:40:54 DESCRIBED IN THE ADOPTED
19:40:56 DEVELOPMENT ORDER.
19:40:58 THE BASIN IS NOT A PART OF THE
19:40:59 DRI.
19:41:00 ALTHOUGH THE ORDER HAS EXPIRED,
19:41:03 THE REMAINING ENTITLEMENTS DO
19:41:04 NOT.
19:41:05 THE DRI COULD BE REACT VACATED
19:41:07 THROUGH AN AMENDMENT TO EXTEND
19:41:08 BUILD-OUT.
19:41:10 ONLY THE PARTIES AND PROPERTY
19:41:10 INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT
19:41:13 ORDER CAN UTILIZE THE
19:41:14 ENTITLEMENTS, AND ENTITLEMENTS
19:41:16 CANNOT GO OFF-SITE OR OUTSIDE
19:41:17 OF THE DRI.
19:41:19 SO ALL AREAS HAVE BEEN
19:41:20 DEVELOPED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
19:41:21 PARCEL "J."
19:41:24 SO THE OWNERS -- AND THIS IS
19:41:27 PARCEL "J" AT THIS LOCATION.
19:41:28 THE OWNERS WITHIN THE DRI COULD
19:41:31 EXPAND OR REDEVELOP THEIR
19:41:32 PROPERTY AND UTILIZE ANY
19:41:34 REMAINING ENTITLEMENTS.
19:41:35 THE DEVELOPER CAN BUILD A
19:41:39 MAXIMUM OF 161 CONDO UNITS IN
19:41:42 EXCHANGE FOR 176 HOTELS, SO THE
19:41:43 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT REMAIN
19:41:44 UNDER THIS DRI COULD BE
19:41:51 UTILIZED ONLY TO THE ACTUAL
19:41:54 OWNERS THAT ARE ENTITLED TO
19:41:55 UTILIZE THAT DRI, THOSE
19:41:56 ENTITLEMENTS.
19:41:58 SO THAT REMAINING RESIDENTIAL
19:42:02 WOULD NOT APPLY TO THIS AREA,
19:42:04 AND IT COULD AND POSSIBLY WOULD
19:42:07 BE USED BY THE ENTITIES THAT DO
19:42:09 HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THAT
19:42:12 REMAINING RESIDENTIAL, SO ANY
19:42:15 RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED UNDER THIS
19:42:16 REQUEST THIS EVENING, IF IT IS
19:42:22 APPROVED, WOULD BE AN INCREASE.
19:42:23 [OFF MICROPHONE] REMAINING
19:42:24 RESIDENTIAL ARE NOT THERE.
19:42:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
19:42:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'D LIKE TO
19:42:29 ASK REBECCA A QUESTION, AND I
19:42:30 APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIR.
19:42:33 I'M GETTING MIXED SIGNALS.
19:42:35 I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PARCEL
19:42:38 WAS ZONED WITH R-35, AND I
19:42:39 HEARD 16 UNITS AT ONE TIME, AND
19:42:42 THAT WAS FROM THE CITY, A
19:42:44 PERSPECTIVE I HEAR UP TO 105
19:42:46 UNITS AND 78,000-SQUARE-FOOT.
19:42:47 WHICH IS CORRECT?
19:42:48 >>REBECCA KERT: I BELIEVE BOTH
19:42:48 THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
19:42:51 CITY STAFF SAID THAT IT WAS --
19:42:52 YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON
19:42:54 EVERYTHING ELSE -- A MAXIMUM OF
19:42:55 105 UNITS.
19:42:56 THE 16 UNITS THAT WERE
19:42:59 REFERENCED BY THE PLANNING
19:43:00 COMMISSION ARE RELATED TO A
19:43:01 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN
19:43:04 THE PETITIONER AND THE OWNER OF
19:43:06 THE ROCKY POINT PROPERTY, OF
19:43:07 WHICH THEY WERE SEEKING TO HAVE
19:43:08 ACCESS.
19:43:11 TO GET THAT ACCESS WITHOUT A
19:43:12 COURT ORDER, THEY AGREED TO
19:43:13 SETTLE IT, AND AS PART OF THAT
19:43:16 SETTLEMENT, THEY LIMITED IT TO
19:43:16 16 UNITS.
19:43:19 WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT AND --
19:43:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS
19:43:20 GOING TO BE MY POINT "B."
19:43:23 IS THAT ENFORCEABLE OR NOT?
19:43:24 >>REBECCA KERT: IT'S NOT
19:43:26 ENFORCEABLE BY US, AND IF THIS
19:43:27 PROPERTY WERE TO GET A RIGHT OF
19:43:28 ACCESS BY A COURT, THEY
19:43:30 WOULDN'T NEED THIS SETTLEMENT
19:43:31 AGREEMENT, AND, THEREFORE, THEY
19:43:33 WOULDN'T NEED TO ABIDE BY THE
19:43:34 16 UNITS, SO I WOULDN'T
19:43:35 RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
19:43:38 COUNT ON HAVING THE 16 UNITS.
19:43:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU
19:43:40 VERY MUCH.
19:43:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
19:43:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
19:43:42 THANK YOU.
19:43:43 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
19:43:45 THAT WAS MY NEXT -- BECAUSE I
19:43:46 WANTED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT
19:43:47 AGREEMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED
19:43:51 BUT THAT WE HAVE NO PURVIEW
19:43:53 OVER; CORRECT?
19:43:54 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
19:43:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
19:43:56 AND YOU MADE IT VERY CLEAR.
19:43:58 THANK YOU.
19:43:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
19:44:00 >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANTED TO
19:44:02 POINT OUT ON THIS MAP, YOU
19:44:03 MIGHT WANT TO TELL THE FISH AND
19:44:04 WILDLIFE COMMISSION THAT THEY
19:44:05 HAVE THE COUNTY LABELS WRONG.
19:44:06 [LAUGHTER]
19:44:10 >> YES, I WILL.
19:44:11 WE WILL IGNORE THE COUNTY
19:44:12 LABELS.
19:44:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH, MR. COHEN,
19:44:14 I THINK THAT THE RAYS HAD
19:44:15 SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT,
19:44:17 SO --
19:44:17 [LAUGHTER]
19:44:19 >> BUT THIS IS A MAP OF THE
19:44:21 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE.
19:44:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY HAVE
19:44:23 100 MILLION, THEY COULD DO WHAT
19:44:24 THEY WANT.
19:44:25 [LAUGHTER]
19:44:26 >> AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE
19:44:28 OUTLINED IN YELLOW THE AREA
19:44:29 THAT IS UNDER REQUEST.
19:44:33 YOU CAN SEE THE BASIN, THAT
19:44:34 PRINT THERE, SO IT IS WITHIN
19:44:39 THE MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE.
19:44:40 STAFF HAS FOUND IT INCONSISTENT
19:44:42 WITH THE FOLLOWING
19:44:45 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES.
19:44:48 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY 1.18.3
19:44:51 STATES TO ASSIST THE FDEP AND
19:44:52 THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
19:44:53 SERVICE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION
19:44:55 OF PROTECTIVE AND RECOVERY
19:44:58 PROGRAMS FOR THE WEST INDIAN
19:44:59 MANATEE AND OTHER THREATENED
19:45:01 AND ENDANGERED MARINE SPECIES
19:45:05 OR SPECIES OF SPECIAL CONCERN.
19:45:08 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY 1.18.4
19:45:09 STATES, TO PROTECT MANATEES
19:45:10 THAT FREQUENT THE HILLSBOROUGH
19:45:13 RIVER AND THE TAMPA BAY BY
19:45:15 MAINTAINING HABITAT AND
19:45:17 PROHIBITING ACTIVITIES THAT
19:45:18 ENDANGER THEM.
19:45:21 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY 1.18.6
19:45:22 STATES TO SUPPORT THE
19:45:24 PROTECTION OF NATURAL COASTAL
19:45:25 SHORELINES AS A MEANS OF
19:45:26 PROVIDING HABITAT, REDUCING
19:45:29 EROSION, AND MAINTAINING WATER
19:45:31 QUALITY AND PROHIBIT THE
19:45:35 UNHARDENING AND BULK HEADING OF
19:45:37 NATURAL COASTAL SHORELINES
19:45:39 EXCEPT IN CASES OF OVERRIDING
19:45:40 PUBLIC INTEREST OR ONGOING
19:45:41 DEMONSTRATED LOSS OF PROPERTY
19:45:43 DUE TO EROSION.
19:45:46 ENVIRONMENTAL OBJECTIVE 1.20
19:45:48 STATES, PROTECT, CONSERVE,
19:45:51 ENHANCE, AND RESTORE REMAINING
19:45:54 COASTAL WETLANDS, LIVING MARINE
19:45:55 RESOURCES, AND WILDLIFE HABITAT
19:45:57 IN THE TAMPA BAY ESTUARY.
19:46:01 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY 1.22.1,
19:46:02 LIMIT THE USE OF BEACHES AND
19:46:04 SHORELINES, APPROPRIATE
19:46:06 OCEAN-ORIENTED RECREATIONAL AND
19:46:08 EDUCATIONAL FUNCTION, AND
19:46:10 NATURAL RESOURCE PRESERVATION.
19:46:12 AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF
19:46:12 PRESENTATION.
19:46:15 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
19:46:16 QUESTIONS.
19:46:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HAVE A
19:46:22 QUESTION, AND ACTUALLY,
19:46:23 MS. KERT MIGHT HAVE TO ANSWER
19:46:24 THIS.
19:46:26 YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ON HERE AS
19:46:29 PART OF THE ORIGINAL ZONING, IT
19:46:30 LISTS IT AS A HARBOR, EVEN
19:46:32 THOUGH IT DOES HAVE THE RM -- I
19:46:34 GUESS THE RM-24.
19:46:36 >> RM-24, CORRECT.
19:46:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH.
19:46:38 SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT
19:46:39 EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ZONED.
19:46:40 IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE
19:46:42 IN OUR ZONING ATLAS THAT ALLOWS
19:46:44 FOR -- AND THE SECOND PART OF
19:46:47 IT, IT SAYS, PRESERVATION AREA
19:46:49 UNDER THE DRI BECAUSE THE DRI
19:46:51 AGREEMENT IS PROBABLY SAYING WE
19:46:52 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS
19:46:53 A PRESERVATION AREA FOR US AS
19:46:55 PART OF THE DRI.
19:46:56 >> SURE.
19:46:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO IS THERE
19:46:58 ANYTHING IN OUR ZONING ATLAS
19:47:01 THAT HAS A ZONE SPECIFICALLY
19:47:04 FOR, LIKE, A PRESERVATION AREA
19:47:05 OR A -- OR WATER FEATURE OR
19:47:06 NATURAL RESOURCES OR SOMETHING
19:47:09 LIKE THAT THAT DOES NOT ALLOW
19:47:11 FOR DEVELOPMENT?
19:47:14 >> NOT NECESSARILY A ZONE.
19:47:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MM-HMM.
19:47:16 >> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE OF A
19:47:17 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
19:47:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE REASON --
19:47:20 THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU IS
19:47:21 BECAUSE WHEN WE START LOOKING
19:47:23 AT THE LAYERS OF LEGALITY THAT
19:47:25 COME IN THIS, OKAY, WHAT IS IT
19:47:26 THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING
19:47:29 ABOUT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A ZONING
19:47:30 -- WE HAVE A ZONING ATLAS THAT
19:47:34 SHOWS IT HAS A ZONE ON IT.
19:47:35 THE -- AND AFTER MY PRIVATE
19:47:39 CONVERSATION WITH THE
19:47:39 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING
19:47:40 COMMISSION, THEY SAID, WELL,
19:47:41 YOU KNOW, IT DOES HAVE A
19:47:43 ZONING, SO WE HAVE TO OPINE AS
19:47:44 TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE
19:47:45 ALLOWED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW -- TO
19:47:47 LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:47:49 AND, YOU KNOW, SO DO WE LOOK AT
19:47:51 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ONLY OR
19:47:53 DO WE LOOK AT HOW WE WANT TO
19:47:54 DESCRIBE IT OURSELVES FROM
19:47:56 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF
19:47:59 WHAT THIS BODY IS, AND I THINK
19:48:01 THAT THAT'S REALLY THE NUB OF
19:48:02 EVERYTHING, BUT AT THE SAME
19:48:04 TIME, LEGALLY WE WANT TO BE
19:48:05 ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
19:48:06 DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
19:48:08 >> SURE.
19:48:09 SURE.
19:48:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO IS THERE
19:48:10 ANYTHING -- IS THERE ANYTHING
19:48:13 IN OUR ZONING ATLAS THAT SAYS?
19:48:14 OBVIOUSLY, THE RIVER -- ALL
19:48:15 THESE OTHER WATER FEATURES THAT
19:48:17 ARE PART OF OUR CITY ARE
19:48:19 ALREADY ZONED SOMETHING, BUT WE
19:48:19 DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NECESSARILY
19:48:21 TO PROTECT IT RIGHT NOW; IS
19:48:22 THAT CORRECT?
19:48:26 >> I DON'T THINK WE DO.
19:48:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I KNEW THE
19:48:30 LAWYER WAS EVENTUALLY GOING TO
19:48:31 GET INVOLVED IN THIS.
19:48:32 THAT'S OKAY.
19:48:34 [LAUGHTER]
19:48:35 >>REBECCA KERT: [OFF
19:48:35 MICROPHONE]
19:48:36 WILL ANSWER THE DETAILED
19:48:38 QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS
19:48:39 CURRENTLY IN YOUR ZONING CODE.
19:48:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SURE.
19:48:42 >>REBECCA KERT: FROM A LEGAL
19:48:43 PERSPECTIVE, I VEHEMENTLY
19:48:44 DISAGREE WITH THE STATEMENT
19:48:46 THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE
19:48:47 ANYTHING TO PROTECT THOSE
19:48:48 AREAS.
19:48:49 WHAT IS OUT THERE TO PROTECT
19:48:50 THEM, IN ADDITION TO THE
19:48:53 POLICIES THAT WERE LISTED, IS
19:48:53 THE DENSITY.
19:48:54 THEY CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING
19:48:55 WITHOUT THE DENSITY.
19:48:57 THAT'S THE PROTECTION WE --
19:48:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MAY I REPHRASE
19:48:59 THEN?
19:49:00 I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO
19:49:01 DO ANYTHING TO ME, OKAY, SO IF
19:49:03 I CAN JUST REPHRASE.
19:49:04 I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A
19:49:08 LEGAL PROCESS, AND WE DON'T
19:49:09 HAVE THE WORDS NECESSARY TO
19:49:11 LOOK AT THE LEGAL PROCESS
19:49:13 BECAUSE IT IS -- IT GOES
19:49:16 COUNTER TO THE WAY WE TYPICALLY
19:49:18 DO ZONING CASES BECAUSE WE'RE
19:49:21 LOOKING AT LAND THAT IS NOT
19:49:22 SUBMERGED, SO FOR ME THAT'S
19:49:23 WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH.
19:49:24 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE
19:49:26 LOOK AT THIS THAT WE HAVE A
19:49:27 FAIR HEARING AND THAT WE'RE
19:49:28 UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHERE
19:49:30 THE LAW IS AT IN RELATION TO
19:49:32 WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO.
19:49:33 AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT
19:49:35 I'VE SEEN -- I WAS LOOKING AT
19:49:36 WHAT YOU HAD PASSED OUT TO US
19:49:38 EARLIER TODAY, BECAUSE I DO
19:49:41 READ WHAT YOU GIVE US, ABOUT
19:49:42 THE LEGAL STATUS DEFINITIONS
19:49:45 AND STUFF, WE DO HAVE SOME
19:49:47 LEEWAY TO DETERMINE WHAT WE
19:49:49 WANT TO HAVE IN THE
19:49:50 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN IT
19:49:51 DEALS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
19:49:52 IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S NOTHING
19:49:53 IN THERE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
19:49:55 THIS CURRENTLY.
19:49:56 THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WAS
19:49:57 TRYING TO MAKE A POINT OF, THAT
19:49:59 WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT
19:50:00 NOW.
19:50:02 >>REBECCA KERT: I WOULD -- I
19:50:04 WOULD SAY A COUPLE THINGS.
19:50:05 NUMBER ONE, YES, THE
19:50:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE CITY
19:50:08 OF TAMPA'S, AND YOU ALL ARE THE
19:50:10 ONES THAT DETERMINE WHAT IS OUR
19:50:11 LONG-RANGE FUTURE PLANNING.
19:50:13 YOU HAVE A LOT OF POLICIES IN
19:50:14 THERE RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT THE
19:50:16 STATE LAW SAYS AND WHAT THE
19:50:18 PLAN ITSELF SAYS IS ANY PLAN
19:50:21 AMENDMENT IS A VERY SERIOUS
19:50:22 DEAL BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY
19:50:23 DETERMINED WHAT THE POLICY IS,
19:50:24 SO ANY AMENDMENT THAT COMES
19:50:26 BEFORE YOU IS ARGUABLY A CHANGE
19:50:29 TO THAT POLICY, SO YOUR JOB IS
19:50:30 TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT
19:50:32 THAT CHANGE IS BOTH SOMETHING
19:50:35 THAT, YOU KNOW, IS POLICY THAT
19:50:38 THE CITY WANTS TO SUPPORT AND
19:50:40 WHETHER OR NOT -- MOST
19:50:41 IMPORTANTLY, WHETHER OR NOT
19:50:42 THAT AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT
19:50:43 WITH YOUR EXISTING POLICY.
19:50:45 I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, WE DO
19:50:46 NOT HAVE A POLICY THAT -- RIGHT
19:50:49 NOW THAT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU HAVE
19:50:52 WATER WITH NO UPLANDS, YOU
19:50:53 DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO
19:50:54 BUILD.
19:50:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
19:50:55 >>REBECCA KERT: NOW, I THINK
19:50:57 THAT THERE ARE POLICIES IN
19:50:58 THERE THAT GET YOU TO EXACTLY
19:51:00 THE SAME PLACE, WHICH IS WHAT I
19:51:01 WAS SPEAKING TO ORIGINALLY,
19:51:03 BUT, YES, THERE IS NOT A -- ONE
19:51:04 POLICY THAT ADDRESSES THIS
19:51:06 SPECIFIC SITUATION.
19:51:08 IT'S A CUMULATIVE WAY OF HOW WE
19:51:09 APPROACH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
19:51:11 BUILDABLE, WHAT'S DENSITY, HOW
19:51:13 YOU GET THE ABILITY TO BUILD
19:51:14 ANYTHING THAT GETS YOU TO THE
19:51:14 SAME PLACE.
19:51:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
19:51:16 OKAY.
19:51:17 THANK YOU.
19:51:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
19:51:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NO.
19:51:20 SHE ANSWERED EXACTLY -- THANK
19:51:26 YOU VERY MUCH, MS. KERT.
19:51:27 >>CATHERINE COYLE: CATHERINE
19:51:28 COYLE, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT,
19:51:29 I'M THE CITY ZONING
19:51:30 ADMINISTRATOR, AND I WANTED TO
19:51:32 PUT THIS ON THE RECORD JUST IN
19:51:34 A VERY BLACK-AND-WHITE
19:51:35 STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY.
19:51:35 IN DEALING WITH THE CODE
19:51:39 ITSELF, SECTION 27-8 THAT
19:51:39 MS. DOCK REFERENCED
19:51:43 SPECIFICALLY SAYS -- AND THIS
19:51:45 GETS TO THE HEART OF ANOTHER
19:51:49 ISSUE THAT MR. SUAREZ ASKED
19:51:52 ABOUT, IS DEALING WITH HOW THE
19:51:53 ZONING AFFECTS LANDS, WATER
19:51:55 STRUCTURES, USES, AND
19:51:56 OCCUPANCIES.
19:51:59 I WENT BACK AND I PULLED THE
19:52:01 WEST QUADRANT ZONING ORDINANCE
19:52:03 THAT ACTUALLY ZONED THIS ENTIRE
19:52:05 QUADRANT OF THE CITY THROUGH
19:52:07 ZONING CONFORMANCE IN 1987, AND
19:52:09 IT INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE ZONING
19:52:11 ATLAS THAT WAS DONE, AND ALSO
19:52:13 THIS FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
19:52:14 THIS HAPPENS TO BE ATLAS PAGES
19:52:17 G-5 AND G-6, AND AS YOU CAN
19:52:20 SEE, EVEN BACK THEN, AS IT WAS
19:52:24 DRAWN, THIS IS THE HARBOR HERE,
19:52:25 AND THE ZONING EXTENDS OUT INTO
19:52:26 THE WATER.
19:52:28 THIS WAS THE CITY LIMITS AT THE
19:52:29 TIME.
19:52:30 BACK THEN THESE WERE DONE WITH
19:52:33 TAPE AND MARKERS ON MYLAR, IT
19:52:36 WAS NOT DONE DIGITALLY, AND
19:52:36 THEY MEASURED EVERYTHING OUT TO
19:52:37 SCALE.
19:52:40 IT WAS A 1:200 SCALE, BUT YOU
19:52:42 CAN SEE WHERE THE RM-24 IS, AND
19:52:44 THIS IS RS-60.
19:52:46 SINCE THEN, MANY THINGS HAVE
19:52:47 BEEN ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
19:52:49 AND THE DRI CAME ABOUT SOON
19:52:50 THEREAFTER, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE,
19:52:52 THE ZONING EXTENDED OUT.
19:52:53 THE PURPOSE OF THIS, IF YOU
19:52:54 LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR
19:52:55 PROVISION OF THE CODE, SECTION
19:52:59 27-8 -- AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
19:53:02 NOTE CHAPTER 43A, WHICH CAME
19:53:05 INTO EFFECT IN 1990, AT THE END
19:53:06 OF ALL THE QUADRANTS OF THE
19:53:09 CITY BEING ZONED, CHAPTER 43A
19:53:11 WAS IN EXISTENCE AND IT
19:53:12 CONVERTED TO CHAPTER 27 IN
19:53:14 SEPTEMBER OF 1990.
19:53:17 I'M SORRY, AUGUST OF 1990, AND
19:53:19 THESE ARE THE DATES, DECEMBER
19:53:21 21ST WAS THE WEST QUADRANT.
19:53:23 THAT'S THE ORDINANCE.
19:53:25 THIS IS THE MAP AS IT WAS
19:53:26 DRAWN.
19:53:28 THE PROVISION IS IDENTICAL.
19:53:32 IT WAS SECTION 43A-7, ZONING
19:53:33 AFFECTS ALL LANDS, WATER
19:53:34 STRUCTURES, USES, AND
19:53:35 OCCUPANCIES.
19:53:36 THIS PROVISION HAS BEEN THE
19:53:39 SAME IN THE CODE SINCE 1990,
19:53:40 SINCE ZONING CONFORMANCE.
19:53:42 THE ZONING AFFECTS EVERYTHING,
19:53:45 GOES TO THE CITY LIMITS BECAUSE
19:53:46 THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT IT
19:53:48 NEEDS TO COVER.
19:53:50 AS MS. KERT MENTIONED, DENSITY
19:53:51 IS THE ISSUE, DENSITY AND
19:53:53 INTENSITY, WHAT CAN YOU BUILD?
19:53:55 IT'S IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE
19:53:57 USE TABLE AND THROUGH THE TABLE
19:53:59 OF SCHEDULED DIMENSIONS AND
19:54:00 STRUCTURAL HEIGHT.
19:54:02 THIS CLEARLY SAYS, AS IT COVERS
19:54:05 WATER, EVERYTHING THAT'S DONE,
19:54:06 BUILDING STRUCTURES, LAND,
19:54:08 WATER, ANYTHING YOU'RE GOING TO
19:54:09 OCCUPY, ERECT, CONSTRUCT,
19:54:12 RECONSTRUCT, MOVE, ALTER IN ANY
19:54:13 FASHION HAS TO COMPLY WITH THIS
19:54:15 CODE, PERIOD, FROM THE DATE OF
19:54:16 ADOPTION.
19:54:20 THEN IT PICKS THE NEXT AND SAYS
19:54:21 IN CLARIFICATION, THE FORGOING,
19:54:23 IT'S THE SPECIFIC INTENT OF
19:54:24 CITY COUNCIL, YOU ALL, THAT
19:54:25 FLOATING STRUCTURES AND
19:54:27 BUILDINGS AND BUILDINGS BUILT
19:54:29 OVER THE WATER.
19:54:30 THIS CONTEMPLATES THAT THERE'S
19:54:32 WATER THERE, AND YOU MAY DO
19:54:33 SOMETHING OVER IT OR FLOAT ON
19:54:36 TOP OF IT, NOT CREATE NEW LAND
19:54:39 OR FILL IT.
19:54:41 THIS -- IT'S VERY BLACK AND
19:54:43 WHITE, IT'S VERY DIRECT, AND
19:54:44 THAT IS THE CODE ON ITS FACE
19:54:45 AND HOW IT APPLIES.
19:54:46 THE NEXT PIECE OF THAT THAT I
19:54:50 WANT TO SHOW YOU IS AN EXAMPLE
19:54:54 -- MS. KERT MENTIONED IT --
19:54:56 PRIVATE PLEASURE CRAFT USED AS
19:54:58 RESIDENCES.
19:54:59 AS YOU CAN SEE IN ALL THESE
19:55:01 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICTS AND
19:55:03 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS IS A
19:55:05 SPECIAL USE-2 PERMIT, SO IF
19:55:07 SOMEONE WANTED TO ACTUALLY HAVE
19:55:09 A BOAT ON A SHORELINE, WHATEVER
19:55:11 ZONING IT HAPPENS TO BE, ONE OF
19:55:12 THESE SINGLE-FAMILY OR
19:55:13 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS, THEY'D
19:55:14 HAVE TO COME TO YOU FOR
19:55:16 PERMISSION TO ACTUALLY LIVE IN
19:55:17 IT.
19:55:20 THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, THE
19:55:22 VERY FIRST ONE THAT YOU'D BE
19:55:24 CONSIDERING, IS THAT IT'S
19:55:25 LIVING QUARTERS PERMITTED AS A
19:55:27 SPECIAL USE IN CONNECTION WITH
19:55:28 A VACANT LOT.
19:55:30 IT'S PRESUMING THAT THERE IS
19:55:33 LAND TO GIVE IT THE DENSITY.
19:55:34 SO THAT'S THE CLEAREST EXAMPLE
19:55:35 WE CAN GIVE YOU IN THE CODE
19:55:37 WHERE THE PROVISION IS PRETTY
19:55:39 CLEAR IN 27-8.
19:55:40 IT'S VERY BROAD.
19:55:41 IT SAYS ZONING COVERS
19:55:42 EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT HAS TO.
19:55:44 YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE ZONING
19:55:44 COVERS EVERYTHING THAT POSSIBLY
19:55:46 COULD HAPPEN.
19:55:47 IT CLARIFIES IT NEXT,
19:55:49 CONTEMPLATING THAT, YEAH,
19:55:50 THERE'S WATER OUT THERE, WE
19:55:51 KNOW THE ZONING COVERS THE
19:55:51 WATER.
19:55:53 IT CONTEMPLATES THINGS BEING
19:55:54 BUILT OUT OVER, LIKE A DECK,
19:55:56 LIKE A SEATING AREA, LIKE
19:55:58 SOMETHING THAT PROTRUDES OUT OR
19:55:59 FLOATS ON TOP.
19:56:02 AND THEN IT'S FOLLOWED UP IN
19:56:03 THE CODE IN HOW YOU ALL
19:56:05 REGULATE AS A SPECIAL USE
19:56:06 LIVING IN A BOAT.
19:56:08 I'LL PUT THIS ON THE RECORD.
19:56:09 I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FOR
19:56:10 YOU SO YOU COULD UNDERSTAND HOW
19:56:12 IT'S IMPLEMENTED THROUGH OUR
19:56:13 ZONING REGULATIONS.
19:56:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
19:56:15 PETITIONER.
19:56:27 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL,
19:56:30 GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL HORNER,
19:56:31 14502 NORTH DALE MABRY,
19:56:33 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, THE
19:56:34 PETITIONER TONIGHT.
19:56:35 MADAM CLERK AND MR. CHAIRMAN,
19:56:37 IF I COULD JUST GET A BUZZ AT
19:56:38 THREE MINUTES SO THAT I DON'T
19:56:41 OVERSTATE MY TIME.
19:56:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE 2.5
19:56:44 BEFORE WE PUT THE TIME ON.
19:56:44 >> ALL RIGHT.
19:56:45 2.5.
19:56:46 WE'LL KEEP OUR OWN CLOCK ON
19:56:47 THIS.
19:56:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
19:56:49 >> COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
19:56:49 TIME.
19:56:52 WITH ME TONIGHT IS OUR CLIENT,
19:56:54 MR. DICKEY, MR. DAVID FLEET,
19:56:56 THE LAND USE ATTORNEY, MR. TODD
19:56:57 PRESSMAN.
19:56:58 WE DID NOT BRING OUR
19:56:59 ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING TEAM,
19:57:00 WE DID NOT BRING OUR
19:57:02 ENGINEERING TEAM BECAUSE THIS
19:57:02 IS NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL
19:57:04 CONSULTING VENUE, THIS IS NOT A
19:57:06 PERMITTING VENUE, THIS IS ABOUT
19:57:06 COMP PLAN CHANGE.
19:57:08 THIS IS ABOUT CONSISTENCY WITH
19:57:11 GOALS, POLICIES, OBJECTIVES OF
19:57:11 YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:57:13 THIS IS NOT A ZONING CHANGE,
19:57:14 COUNCIL.
19:57:15 THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
19:57:16 AMENDMENT.
19:57:17 WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE
19:57:19 CONSISTENCY BETWEEN AN EXISTING
19:57:22 ZONING DESIGNATION OF RECORD
19:57:25 AND N/A ON YOUR FUTURE LAND USE
19:57:25 MAPS.
19:57:27 I WAS HOPING TO KEEP THIS
19:57:28 NONCONTROVERSIAL.
19:57:29 I WAS HOPING TO KEEP THIS AS
19:57:32 SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK
19:57:33 THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE
19:57:34 MORE COMPLICATED THAN WE HAD
19:57:36 INITIALLY THOUGHT, GIVEN THE
19:57:37 STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
19:57:38 WE FULLY SUPPORT, OBVIOUSLY,
19:57:40 THE FINDINGS OF FACT BY
19:57:41 MR. DAVID HEY AND THE PLANNING
19:57:41 COMMISSION.
19:57:43 WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH
19:57:44 ALL STAFF MEMBERS.
19:57:46 WE KNOW THE BURDEN OF PROOF
19:57:47 THAT WE HAVE TO BEAR AS WE
19:57:49 PROCEED WITH PERMITTING, AND
19:57:50 MR. HEY MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.
19:57:53 WE HAVE A LITANY OF
19:57:55 OPPORTUNITIES AND HURDLES,
19:57:57 ENVIRONMENTAL, EPC, ARMY CORPS
19:57:58 OF ENGINEERS.
19:57:59 THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN
19:58:02 ENGINEERING REVIEW ON CRITERIA.
19:58:04 YOU DON'T -- YOUR VOTE TONIGHT
19:58:06 DOES NOTHING ON ALLOWING US TO
19:58:09 HAVE PERMITABLE CONSTRUCTION OF
19:58:11 ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS HARBOR.
19:58:12 THIS IS ONLY CONSISTENCY
19:58:14 BETWEEN EXISTING ZONING AND A
19:58:18 COMP PLAN DESIGNATION.
19:58:19 WE ONLY HAVE TWO CHOICES,
19:58:19 COUNCIL.
19:58:22 WE HAVE TWO CHOICES OF RES-35
19:58:27 OR CMU-35.
19:58:29 WATER, AS MR. HEY INDICATED TO
19:58:30 YOU, IS NOT A FUTURE LAND USE
19:58:31 CATEGORY.
19:58:33 I SEE FROM WATER TWO
19:58:33 DEVELOPMENTS.
19:58:36 THIS IS SUBMERGED PRIVATE
19:58:37 NONSOVEREIGN LANDS, PRIVATELY
19:58:39 OWNED, SO IF WE CAN JUST
19:58:42 CLARIFY UP FRONT THAT WE'RE NOT
19:58:43 DEVELOPING IN WATER, WE'RE NOT
19:58:45 DEVELOPING OVER WATER, WE'RE
19:58:47 NOT DEVELOPING PART OF WATER,
19:58:50 WE ARE CREATING UPLANDS ON THIS
19:58:52 HARBOR BASIN, A PORTION OF IT,
19:58:53 THREE ACRES.
19:58:55 MY CLIENT OWNS 8.8 ACRES.
19:58:58 UNLIKE THE COUNTY THAT HAS
19:58:59 CONSISTENT COMP PLAN
19:59:02 DESIGNATIONS, TO FILE FOR A
19:59:05 RES-20 OR AN RMC-20, YOU HAVE
19:59:08 TO HAVE A RES-20 PLAN SECTOR.
19:59:11 IF YOU FILE FOR AN RM-16, YOUR
19:59:13 LAND USE DESIGNATION IS A
19:59:14 RES-16.
19:59:15 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE
19:59:16 STAGGER THOSE.
19:59:17 WE DON'T HAVE A RES-24
19:59:20 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION.
19:59:22 THEREFORE, WE HAD TO FILE FOR
19:59:24 THE NEXT LOWEST INTENSIVE
19:59:25 CATEGORY, AS MR. HEY EXPLAINED.
19:59:28 THAT IS THE RES-35.
19:59:30 WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN 35 UNITS
19:59:31 PER ACRE, WE HAVE NO INTEREST
19:59:37 IN RES-35 NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
19:59:38 THE HIGHEST GOES WHEN THE 35
19:59:40 UNITS ALLOWED, WE GET THAT.
19:59:41 WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING
19:59:43 THAT, AND WE'RE RESTRICTED BY
19:59:45 THE PRIVATE RECORDS OF DOCUMENT
19:59:48 WHICH I'LL GET INTO SHORTLY.
19:59:51 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER
19:59:52 OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMP PLAN
19:59:53 CHANGE.
19:59:54 THIS IS THE ONLY VENUE
19:59:58 AVAILABLE TO COMPORT ZONING TO
20:00:00 A COMP PLAN DESIGNATION.
20:00:02 WE FILED THAT RES-35 AT THE
20:00:04 DIRECTION OF STAFF, AND YOU
20:00:05 HAVE THE SURETY AND CERTAINTY
20:00:07 OF KNOWING THAT UNDER RM-24
20:00:09 ZONING, THAT 70,000 SQUARE FEET
20:00:11 THAT MR. HEY REFERENCED IN HIS
20:00:11 PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, WE
20:00:12 CAN'T ACHIEVE THAT.
20:00:15 YOUR RM-24 DOES NOT ALLOW
20:00:16 NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
20:00:17 78,000 SQUARE FEET DOES NOT
20:00:18 ENTER INTO THE PICTURE.
20:00:19 THAT'S A GOOD THING.
20:00:21 WE HAVE NO INTEREST.
20:00:22 LOTS OF TRAFFIC, LOTS OF
20:00:24 IMPACT, LOTS OF INTENSITY.
20:00:25 WE ARE SEEKING ONLY A
20:00:27 DESIGNATION THAT COMPORTS WITH
20:00:32 THE EXISTING ZONING OF RM-24.
20:00:33 LET'S TALK ABOUT DENSITY AND
20:00:34 UNITS.
20:00:37 UNDER 8.8 ACRES AT THE FULL
20:00:39 RES-35, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP
20:00:40 TO 308 UNITS.
20:00:41 PRIVATE LAND.
20:00:43 MY CLIENT COULD FILE A PERMIT
20:00:44 TO FILL ALL OF THAT.
20:00:47 AT THE 8.8 ACRES, RM-24, SAY
20:00:49 THE CITY HAS A RES-24 COMP PLAN
20:00:50 CATEGORY.
20:00:52 THAT WOULD BE 212 UNITS, A LOT
20:00:53 OF UNITS.
20:00:55 WE REDUCE THAT 8.8 ACRES DOWN
20:00:55 TO THREE ACRES.
20:00:59 IT MIGHT EVEN BE 2.5, 2.65, BUT
20:01:00 IT WILL CERTAINLY NOT EXCEED
20:01:02 THREE ACRES OF NEWLY CREATED
20:01:04 UPLAND, SO RESTORATION PROJECT,
20:01:06 TAKING IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
20:01:07 THIS HAS NOT BEEN A HARBOR FOR
20:01:12 100 YEARS.
20:01:14 MY CLIENTS APPROACHED AND
20:01:16 ENTERED INTO 18 MONTHS, A YEAR
20:01:17 AND A HALF OF DETAILED
20:01:20 NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE ROCKY
20:01:23 POINT HARBOR PROPERTY OWNERS
20:01:23 ASSOCIATION.
20:01:25 THEY'RE THE CONTROLLING OWNER.
20:01:26 THEY'RE THE STAKEHOLDERS.
20:01:34 SCARBOROUGH PARK IS A PRIVATE
20:01:35 PARK.
20:01:37 MY CLIENT EXTENDED THIS PROCESS
20:01:38 ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO MAKE SURE
20:01:41 THAT ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS ARE
20:01:42 IN PLACE, TO MAKE SURE ALL THE
20:01:43 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE
20:01:43 ADDRESSED.
20:01:45 WITHOUT THOSE RESTRICTIONS,
20:01:47 KNEW WE WOULD HAVE AN UPHILL
20:01:47 BATTLE.
20:01:49 WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, AND THE
20:01:51 ONLY WAY THEY APPROVED THIS WAS
20:01:53 TO OUR SITE-SPECIFIC SETTLEMENT
20:01:54 AGREEMENT FOR ACCESS EASEMENT
20:01:56 AS WELL THAT BINDS US TO A
20:01:58 LIMITATION OF 16 UNITS PER ACRE
20:02:00 -- OR EXCUSE ME -- 16 UNITS
20:02:01 TOTAL ON THE THREE ACRES.
20:02:03 THAT'S ABOUT FIVE UNITS PER
20:02:04 ACRE NET.
20:02:05 IT'S ABOUT TWO UNITS PER ACRE
20:02:10 GROSS, 8.8 X 2, ABOUT 16, 17
20:02:10 UNITS.
20:02:11 THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS
20:02:13 SIGNED, SEALED, DELIVERED.
20:02:14 WE FILED THAT AS PART OF THE
20:02:15 RECORD.
20:02:17 WE WANT EVERYONE TO SEE IT,
20:02:19 DISCLOSE IT, REVIEW IT, AND I
20:02:21 CAN ASSURE YOU IF WE DO 17
20:02:24 UNITS, LATER AFTER PERMITTING,
20:02:26 TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, WE GET
20:02:27 THROUGH ALL THIS PERMITTING,
20:02:30 ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, EPC,
20:02:30 SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER
20:02:31 MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, ET CETERA,
20:02:33 WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THAT
20:02:34 AGREEMENT.
20:02:36 THIS IS NOT MULTIFAMILY, THIS
20:02:38 IS SYSTEM ATTACHED.
20:02:41 IT HAS ONE 24-FOOT PRIVATE
20:02:42 DRIVE.
20:02:44 THIS IS THE PLANS.
20:02:46 THAT IS THE SITE PLAN, LADIES
20:02:47 AND GENTLEMEN.
20:02:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
20:02:50 YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT IS
20:02:51 FILED AND RECORDED, BUT THERE'S
20:02:53 NOTHING TO SAY THAT THAT
20:02:54 AGREEMENT CAN'T CHANGE.
20:02:56 WE HAVE NO PURVIEW.
20:02:58 WE HAVE NO PURVIEW TO --
20:02:59 THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT
20:03:00 DOWN THE ROAD, THEY GO, OKAY,
20:03:02 WELL, WE'LL LET YOU DO 24,
20:03:04 HERE, SIGN THIS, YOU KNOW.
20:03:05 I'M LOOKING AT IT --
20:03:06 >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
20:03:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YEAH.
20:03:08 THANK YOU.
20:03:09 >> ALL WE CAN DO IS BRING TO
20:03:13 COUNCIL WHAT WE HAVE BOUND
20:03:14 OURSELVES TO.
20:03:15 A LOT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS
20:03:17 ASSOCIATIONS -- WHO HAS THE
20:03:19 MOST COMPELLING INTEREST TO
20:03:20 THIS PARCEL?
20:03:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU BOUND THAT
20:03:24 YOURSELF TODAY.
20:03:26 WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A
20:03:26 PRIVATE AGREEMENT.
20:03:28 IT COULD CHANGE AT ANY TIME.
20:03:32 WE CANNOT HOLD YOU OR YOUR --
20:03:33 THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE THE
20:03:35 AGREEMENT WITH TO WHAT YOU'RE
20:03:37 SAYING IS AGREED UPON.
20:03:38 WE HAVE NO PURVIEW OVER THAT.
20:03:39 >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
20:03:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND THAT IS A
20:03:40 CONCERN.
20:03:44 >> EVEN DESPITE THAT -- ACCEPT
20:03:45 THAT AT FACE VALUE.
20:03:47 EVEN AT THE RM-24, WE WOULD
20:03:50 STILL BE LESS THAN 105 UNIT
20:03:51 POTENTIAL MAXIMUM.
NO ONE HAS MORE VESTED INTEREST
20:04:22 THAN THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT OWN
20:04:24 SCARBOROUGH PARK AND THE
20:04:25 PROPERTY OWNER INTEREST FOR THE
20:04:27 PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION
20:04:28 ITSELF.
20:04:28 IF I MAY JUST CONTINUE.
20:04:35 >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT
20:04:36 POINT.
20:04:36 >> I UNDERSTAND.
20:04:37 SO WE CAN'T DO 17 UNITS.
20:04:38 EVEN IF WE COULD, WE WOULD STILL
20:04:39 HAVE TO GO BACK AND MODIFY THE
20:04:40 AGREEMENT.
20:04:40 IF WE WANT TO DO 25 UNITS, WE
20:04:41 HAVE TO GO BACK AND MODIFY THAT
20:04:42 AGREEMENT.
20:04:43 IF WE WANT TO COME BACK TO THE
20:04:43 CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AND MODIFY,
20:04:43 WE WOULD HAVE TO FILE A
20:04:43 DIFFERENT SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
20:04:49 OUR POINT IS THIS, WE ARE
20:04:50 RESTRICTED TO THE EXISTING
20:04:51 ZONING, AND THAT AGREEMENT IS
20:04:53 BINDING.
20:04:53 IT MAY NOT BE BINDING ON THE
20:04:55 CITY COUNCIL.
20:04:55 THIRD-PARTY AGREEMENT, YOU'RE
20:04:56 NOT PARTY TO THE THIRD-PARTY
20:04:58 AGREEMENT.
20:04:58 I APPRECIATE THAT.
20:04:59 EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO STAND
20:05:03 UP AND OPPOSE THIS.
20:05:03 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
20:05:06 WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE
20:05:08 COMMUNITY.
20:05:08 I REACHED OUT NO LESS THAN THREE
20:05:10 TIMES TO MR. MICHELINI.
20:05:11 PLEASE, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
20:05:13 WE HAVE ANSWERS.
20:05:14 WE WANT TO SIT DOWN.
20:05:14 WE WANT TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES,
20:05:15 HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE.
20:05:16 LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT
20:05:16 SPECIFICALLY WE'RE DOING.
20:05:16 ALL OF THOSE REACH-OUTS WERE
20:05:16 DENIED.
20:05:35 AND I THINK THAT IS A SAD
20:05:35 COMMENTARY WHEN WE CAN GO
20:05:35 THROUGH ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT
20:05:35 PARAMETERS, PERMITTING,
20:05:35 REQUIREMENTS, TIMELINES,
20:05:35 WILDLIFE, MARINE PROTECTION, ALL
20:05:35 OF THOSE ISSUES.
20:05:35 THIS IS ABOUT CHANGING THE COLOR
20:05:36 ON A MAP THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
20:05:39 AN EXISTING ZONING DESIGNATION.
20:05:41 NO MORE -- CERTAINLY NO LESS,
20:05:41 BUT NO MORE.
20:05:45 IF YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO
20:05:47 PRESENTATION BEFORE THE PLANNING
20:05:48 COMMISSION OR YOU HAD ACCESS TO
20:05:55 THAT TRANSCRIPT, COUNCIL, THERE
20:05:55 WAS A LIVELY DEBATE.
20:05:56 AND I THINK TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING
20:05:56 TO HEAR A LOT OF THOSE SAME
20:05:57 ARGUMENTS.
20:05:58 AT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION
20:05:59 PRESENTATION, I THINK I HAD
20:06:00 THREE MINUTES ON A REBUTTAL
20:06:02 SIDE.
20:06:02 CASE IN CHIEF WAS TEN MINUTES, I
20:06:03 BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
20:06:04 WE HAD 45 MINUTES ON THE
20:06:06 OPPOSING SIDE.
20:06:06 NO ONE WALKED OUT OF THAT
20:06:08 HEARING AND SAID THEIR OPINIONS
20:06:10 WERE NOT HEARD, REVIEWED,
20:06:10 DEBATED, AND DISCUSSED.
20:06:10 IN FACT, IT WENT A LITTLE BIT
20:06:16 SIDEWAYS AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
20:06:18 ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS
20:06:19 EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT A LATER
20:06:22 PERMITTING PROCESS.
20:06:23 WHAT IS THE DEPTH OF THIS POND?
20:06:27 WHAT IS THE DEPTH OF THE BASIN?
20:06:28 DO WE HAVE SEA GRASS SOMEWHERE
20:06:29 IN THERE?
20:06:30 IS THIS NOT REALLY AN
20:06:31 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ISSUE?
20:06:33 BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, THE OTHER
20:06:36 COMMISSIONERS AND THE CHAIRMAN
20:06:36 SAID, WHOA, WE ARE NOT SITTING,
20:06:38 AS YOU ARE NOT SITTING, AS
20:06:39 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
20:06:40 COMMISSION.
20:06:40 YOU'RE NOT SITTING AS ARMY CORPS
20:06:42 OF ENGINEERS.
20:06:44 YOU'RE NOT SITTING AS SOUTHWEST
20:06:45 FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
20:06:46 DISTRICT OR FLORIDA FISH AND
20:06:48 GAME.
20:06:48 WE HAVE WILDLIFE.
20:06:50 WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS HURDLE TO
20:06:52 GO OVER AND WE'RE WILLING TO
20:06:54 ACCEPT THAT BURDEN.
20:06:55 WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK.
20:06:56 WE HAVE SAT DOWN WITH OUR
20:06:58 ENGINEERS.
20:06:58 WE FILED A LITANY OF DOCUMENTS.
20:07:00 I THINK THE PUBLIC RECORD ON
20:07:01 THIS IS ALMOST 170 PAGES.
20:07:03 110 PAGES OF WHICH IS THE
20:07:05 PLANNING COMMISSION, FACTS AND
20:07:07 CONCLUSIONS FOR CONSISTENCY,
20:07:08 GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES.
20:07:10 60 TO 65 PAGES WERE DETAILED
20:07:14 BREAKDOWNS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO
20:07:15 DO THIS, THE WATER QUALITY BEING
20:07:18 FRESHWATER, ALLOWING THIS TO
20:07:20 HAVE REASONABLE, ANTICIPATED USE
20:07:24 RIGHTS.
20:07:25 NO OTHER PROPERTY OWNER OUT
20:07:26 THERE HAS RIPARIAN RIGHTS, HAS
20:07:29 VIEW RIGHTS, HAS USE RIGHTS.
20:07:32 MY CLIENT HAS COMPLETE CONTROL
20:07:34 OF THAT 8.8-ACRE BASIN.
20:07:36 WE HAVE VOLUNTARILY PULLED IT
20:07:38 DOWN TO JUST THREE ACRES.
20:07:40 IT MIGHT VERY WELL BE LESS THAN
20:07:42 THAT.
20:07:42 AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A
20:07:43 RESTORATION PROCESS.
20:07:45 THIS IS NOT DREDGE AND FILL.
20:07:49 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:07:49 MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DID NOT HOOT
20:07:51 AND HOLLER WHEN THEY GAVE THEIR
20:07:52 PRESENTATION.
20:07:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: I AGREE WITH
20:07:54 HIM.
20:07:55 WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THE
20:07:56 OUTBURSTS IN THIS CHAMBER
20:07:58 TONIGHT.
20:07:58 THANK YOU.
20:07:59 >> IN CONCLUSION, THE FACTS ARE
20:08:01 WITH US.
20:08:02 IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL
20:08:04 DISCUSSIONS AND LIMITATIONS ON
20:08:05 THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
20:08:07 RIGHTS, WHETHER YOU BORROW THOSE
20:08:10 OR WHETHER THEY PHYSICALLY DON'T
20:08:11 EXIST, THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPED.
20:08:12 AND IT'S IRONIC THAT THE VERY
20:08:15 ARGUMENT USED AT THE COMMERCIAL
20:08:17 24 ON THE EASTERN SIDE THAT HAS
20:08:19 THOSE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
20:08:20 RIGHTS WERE NOT APPLICABLE
20:08:21 BECAUSE IT WAS COMMERCIAL.
20:08:23 WELL, THOSE USES COULD HAVE BEEN
20:08:23 RAISED ANYTIME.
20:08:25 REZONED AT 24 TO ALLOW 24 UNITS
20:08:28 PER ACRE.
20:08:28 IRONICALLY, THAT IS AN 8.8-ACRE
20:08:31 PARCEL.
20:08:32 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY NET INCREASE
20:08:35 IN THAT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
20:08:36 AREA.
20:08:37 THIS IS A MAN-MADE BORROW PIT.
20:08:45 IT IS ABSENT AND DEVOID OF ANY
20:08:46 SEA GRASS.
20:08:47 WE HAVE A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
20:08:48 IN PLACE THAT'S BINDING.
20:08:50 AT THIS TIME, WE ASK YOU TO FIND
20:08:54 THIS CONSISTENT, FOLLOW YOUR
20:08:55 PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTION,
20:08:57 FINDINGS OF FACT FOR CONSISTENCY
20:08:58 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:09:00 MR. DAVID FELICE WILL ADDRESS
20:09:00 THE COMP PLAN LEGAL ISSUES.
20:09:02 THANK YOU.
20:09:04 >> AGAIN, MY NAME IS DAVID
20:09:04 FELICE, TERRA LAW FIRM, 14910
20:09:07 WINDING CREEK COURT, 33613.
20:09:10 I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF
20:09:14 ISSUES REGARDING THIS.
20:09:15 I WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH
20:09:18 SCARBOROUGH CORPORATION.
20:09:20 I PUT THE ENTITLEMENTS ALONG
20:09:21 WITH DAVID MECHANIK, WHO WAS OUR
20:09:23 ATTORNEY AT THE TIME ON THE
20:09:24 ISLAND.
20:09:25 I BUILT THE PARK, ALL RIGHT, SO
20:09:27 I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT
20:09:28 OCCURRED OUT THERE AS FAR AS THE
20:09:31 HISTORICAL.
20:09:32 I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE
20:09:34 PRESERVATION AREA.
20:09:35 THE PRESERVATION AREA, THAT GOT
20:09:39 ONTO THE PLAT IN ORDINANCE
20:09:40 9544A, WHICH TOOK PLACE IN 1987.
20:09:44 IT WAS AN -- A COMPANY IN REGARD
20:09:49 TO THE PROPERTY ON ROCKY POINT
20:09:50 ISLAND.
20:09:51 IN THAT ORDINANCE, THE HARBOR
20:09:56 WAS DESIGNATED AS A PRESERVATION
20:09:58 AREA, BUT IT ALSO SAID FUTURE
20:10:00 DEVELOPMENT OF THE HARBOR COULD
20:10:01 TAKE PLACE IF THERE WAS CHAPTER
20:10:03 380 REVIEW.
20:10:04 IT WASN'T ABSOLUTE.
20:10:05 BUT THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT
20:10:06 THAT IS THE COMPANY AT THE TIME
20:10:10 DID NOT OWN THAT LAND.
20:10:11 THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO COMMIT IT
20:10:13 TO BE A PRESERVATION AREA.
20:10:15 THIS WAS ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED BY
20:10:18 THE CITY, I BELIEVE, IN 1993
20:10:20 WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF FLAWAC
20:10:24 AND GETTING OUR DRI APPROVALS ON
20:10:26 THE SITE.
20:10:27 THE CITY ACTUALLY WAS, IN
20:10:34 ADDITION TO SCARBOROUGH, THE
20:10:36 CITY WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE
20:10:37 SCARBOROUGH'S POSITION BACK
20:10:39 THEN.
20:10:40 AND THE FLAWAC DECISION APPROVED
20:10:44 A FULL-FLEDGED MARINA.
20:10:47 >> WHAT IS FLAWAC?
20:10:47 >> FLORIDA LAND AND WATER
20:10:49 ADJUDICATORY COMMISSION.
20:10:57 IT WAS APPROVED FOR A
20:10:57 FULL-PLEDGED MARINA, BOAT
20:11:00 STORAGE, GAS DOCKS, WE COULD
20:11:02 ACTUALLY DO FLOATING DOCKS.
20:11:04 WE COULD PUT A RESTAURANT.
20:11:07 SO IT WAS RECOGNIZED THAT HARBOR
20:11:09 COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THAT
20:11:09 PRESERVATION AREA DESIGNATION
20:11:11 WASN'T NECESSARILY SET IN STONE.
20:11:14 IN REGARD TO THE DEED
20:11:17 RESTRICTION, THE ACCESS, THERE
20:11:19 WAS A -- WE NEGOTIATED ACCESS TO
20:11:22 THE PARK WITH THE PROPERTY
20:11:24 OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
20:11:25 THAT ACCESS AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE
20:11:26 THE FORCE OF A DEED RESTRICTION.
20:11:28 IT'S SITTING IN ESCROW WITH
20:11:30 DAVID MECHANIK'S OFFICE BECAUSE
20:11:34 HE REPRESENTED THE PROPERTY
20:11:36 OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
20:11:40 SO THINKING THAT -- WE DON'T
20:11:40 HAVE ACCESS, EXCEPT FOR THE 16
20:11:40 UNITS, AND ONCE THAT'S RECORDED,
20:11:41 THAT'S THE ONLY ACCESS THAT
20:11:42 THERE'S GOING TO BE TO THAT
20:11:43 AREA.
20:11:43 MR. HEY INDICATED THAT FILLING
20:11:53 IS NOT A PART OF THE APPLICATION
20:11:55 BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:11:56 REBECCA MADE THE COMMENT THAT
20:12:00 YOU NEED UPLANDS IN ORDER TO
20:12:02 HAVE DENSITY.
20:12:02 I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REALLY
20:12:04 STUDY THAT ARGUMENT.
20:12:06 IT IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT
20:12:08 TODAY.
20:12:08 BUT I DO NOTICE THAT THERE ARE
20:12:11 SOME INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE
20:12:12 ZONING STATUTE 278 AND THE
20:12:17 COMMENT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
20:12:19 DENSITY.
20:12:19 BECAUSE 278 IS SPECIFICALLY
20:12:22 ALLOWING SOME TYPE OF
20:12:24 DEVELOPMENT OF THE HARBOR SPACE.
20:12:25 IT'S SAYING YOU COULD ACTUALLY
20:12:26 BUILD BUILDINGS ON IT OVER THE
20:12:29 WATER, WHICH SEEMS SOMEWHAT
20:12:33 INCONSISTENT WITH THE FACT THAT
20:12:34 YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IF YOU
20:12:35 ACTUALLY -- THAT HAS NO DENSITY
20:12:41 THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY.
20:12:43 I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO STUDY
20:12:48 THAT A LITTLE FURTHER.
20:12:50 IT SEEMS LIKE AN INCONSISTENT
20:12:51 ARGUMENT TO ME.
20:12:52 THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS
20:12:53 THIS DECISION -- COULD I HAVE 30
20:12:56 SECONDS MORE?
20:12:57 >> YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
20:12:59 >> THIS DECISION HAS NO
20:13:01 PRECEDENTIAL VALUE OTHER THAN TO
20:13:03 THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
20:13:04 THIS PROPERTY IS SO UNIQUE IN
20:13:06 THAT IT IS A BORROW PIT -- IT
20:13:15 HAS CURRENT ZONING -- THAT
20:13:15 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND THESE
20:13:15 CIRCUMSTANCES ANYWHERE ELSE IN
20:13:15 THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
20:13:16 IF COUNCIL DECIDED THAT IT
20:13:17 WANTED TO APPROVE THIS, THAT IT
20:13:20 WAS WILLING TO APPROVE THIS, I
20:13:21 DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
20:13:22 TO WORRY ABOUT THIS DECISION
20:13:24 GOING DOWN AS PRECEDENTIAL.
20:13:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
20:13:33 ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC
20:13:35 WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
20:13:37 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU
20:13:38 START MY TIME, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE
20:13:40 THESE BOOKS RECEIVED AND FILED.
20:13:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN,
20:13:51 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
20:13:52 RECEIVE AND FILE ANY DOCUMENTS
20:13:53 RELATED TO ANYTHING WE'VE DONE
20:13:53 TONIGHT AT THIS TIME.
20:13:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION
20:13:57 FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
20:13:57 MR. SUAREZ.
20:13:57 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
20:13:58 AYE.
20:13:59 BEFORE WE START, HOW MANY PEOPLE
20:14:39 PLAN ON SPEAKING UNDER PUBLIC
20:14:42 COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 2?
20:14:44 DO WE KNOW IF ALL THE PEOPLE
20:14:53 FROM DOWNSTAIRS, THEY ARE UP
20:14:56 HERE AT THIS POINT?
20:14:58 >> WE'LL FIND OUT IN JUST A
20:15:00 SECOND.
20:15:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE WANT TO GET
20:15:08 A NUMBER OF HOW MANY ARE GOING
20:15:10 TO SPEAK.
20:15:12 COUNCIL MIGHT REDUCE THEM TO
20:15:14 THREE MINUTES.
20:15:26 >> NOBODY IS DOWN STAIRS.
20:15:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
20:15:51 LET'S GO.
20:15:52 >> THERE IS A SPEAKER WAIVER
20:15:53 FORM ASSOCIATED WITH
20:15:54 MR. MICHELINI'S PRESENTATION.
20:15:56 PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR
20:15:58 PRESENCE.
20:15:59 LEACY OTT.
20:16:01 RITA MIMAKE.
20:16:06 KARIN M. MILLER.
20:16:09 BETTY MAWI.
20:16:15 DEE ADAMS.
20:16:18 CARRIE ALMOND.
20:16:27 JULIE BOWERS.
20:16:29 THANK YOU.
20:16:31 SEVEN MINUTES ADDITIONAL FOR A
20:16:32 TOTAL OF TEN.
20:16:34 >> BEFORE WE START THE TIME,
20:16:35 MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE SOME SLIDES
20:16:36 AND A PowerPoint WE WOULD LIKE
20:16:38 TO HAVE QUEUED UP, PLEASE.
20:16:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: THIS IS NOT
20:16:42 GOING TO BE SEPARATE.
20:16:44 >> NO, SIR.
20:16:44 IT'S NOT SEPARATE.
20:16:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: IT WILL BE A
20:16:52 PART OF YOUR TEN-MINUTE
20:16:53 PRESENTATION.
20:16:53 >> YES, SIR.
20:16:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD
20:16:57 JUST --
20:16:59 >> IF I COULD JUST MENTION TO
20:17:00 EVERYONE, YOU CAN ONLY GIVE YOUR
20:17:02 TIME AWAY ONCE.
20:17:04 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:17:15 >> STEVE MICHELINI.
20:17:17 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE WESTIN
20:17:19 HOTEL.
20:17:20 I'M ALSO REPRESENTING A NUMBER
20:17:21 OF ROCKY POINT RESIDENTS.
20:17:23 HERE IS HISTORICALLY WHAT'S
20:17:27 HAPPENED.
20:17:28 1897 -- FIRST OF ALL, I
20:17:30 STRENUOUSLY OBJECT TO ANY
20:17:34 REFERENCE TO THIS BEING A BORROW
20:17:36 PIT.
20:17:36 IT WAS ALWAYS A NATURAL
20:17:38 WATERWAY, AT LEAST GOING BACK TO
20:17:40 THE U.S. SURVEY MAPS FROM 1897.
20:17:44 AND YOU SEE IN 1974 IT ALSO IS
20:17:47 THE BASIN IS THERE.
20:17:50 YOU STILL SEE EVEN IN 1921, IT
20:17:54 IS A NATURALLY OCCURRING BODY OF
20:17:56 WATER AT THE HEAD OF THE
20:17:58 SWEETWATER CREEK, WHICH IS ALSO
20:18:01 IDENTIFIED ON THE SLIDE.
20:18:02 THIS IS MORE DETAILS OF 1947.
20:18:04 AND YOU SEE THE BASIN IS STILL
20:18:07 THERE, HISTORIC SWEETWATER CREEK
20:18:12 AND ALSO YOU SEE THE SUBJECT OF
20:18:13 THIS REQUEST FOR A LAND USE
20:18:16 AMENDMENT.
20:18:17 AGAIN, SWEETWATER CREEK, YOU SEE
20:18:22 IT IDENTIFIED.
20:18:23 IT DUMPS RIGHT INTO THE HEAD OF
20:18:24 THIS LAGOON.
20:18:25 THERE'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER
20:18:28 PICTURE OF 1972.
20:18:29 1989, IT'S STILL THERE.
20:18:33 THIS IS 1948.
20:18:37 THIS IS AN OVERLAY.
20:18:39 SO ON THE SUBJECT, HISTORIC
20:18:41 SWEETWATER CREEK.
20:18:42 THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS
20:18:44 TODAY, AND THE ARROW ON THE LEFT
20:18:47 IS SWEETWATER CREEK, AND THEN
20:18:49 YOU SEE THE X IDENTIFIED WHERE
20:18:51 THEY ARE PROPOSING TO FILL AND
20:18:53 CREATE UPLANDS.
20:18:54 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
20:18:58 ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
20:18:59 PROJECT THAT, AGAIN, I'LL TAKE
20:19:00 EXCEPTION TO.
20:19:01 THE ISSUE IS, YOU CAN'T HAVE A
20:19:04 RESTRICTION ON LAND FOR TOWN
20:19:06 HOUSES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.
20:19:07 YOU HAVE WATER.
20:19:10 THEY BOUGHT WATER.
20:19:12 THEY KNEW IT WAS WATER.
20:19:13 AND WATER DOES NOT HAVE A LAND
20:19:15 USE DENSITY.
20:19:16 IT DOES NOT HAVE AN ENTITLEMENT.
20:19:17 THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A
20:19:18 TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS
20:19:20 FROM LAND TO WATER.
20:19:22 IT JUST DOESN'T EXIST.
20:19:23 LOOK FOR IT IN THE CODE IF YOU
20:19:26 WISH.
20:19:26 IT'S NOT THERE.
20:19:27 THIS IS A SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL
20:19:28 ISSUE.
20:19:28 THIS IS A MANATEE PROTECTION
20:19:30 ZONE.
20:19:30 IT'S IDENTIFIED, AND WE'RE
20:19:32 PROVIDING A LETTER IN THAT
20:19:34 BOOKLET.
20:19:34 I THINK THE STAFF ALREADY
20:19:35 PROVIDED IT TO YOU.
20:19:37 THIS SAYS, YOU SHALL NOT --
20:19:39 SHALL NOT ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN A
20:19:41 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE.
20:19:43 SHALL NOT.
20:19:44 THE ARGUMENT SHOULD END RIGHT
20:19:45 THERE.
20:19:45 THERE IS A CIVIC AND A MORAL
20:19:49 RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS COUNCIL
20:19:51 TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
20:19:53 THIS NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN
20:19:54 THIS FAR, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT
20:19:55 THAT THEY HAD A RIGHT BECAUSE
20:19:58 THEY BOUGHT A FOLIO NUMBER FROM
20:19:59 A TAX DEED THAT SAID THAT IT WAS
20:20:02 A PARCEL OF SOMETHING.
20:20:03 EVEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
20:20:06 CALLS IT WETLANDS.
20:20:07 BUT IT IS OPEN WATER.
20:20:09 IT IS NAVIGABLE.
20:20:10 THEY HAVE NO DRI ENTITLEMENTS.
20:20:13 THEY CAN'T TRANSFER SOMEBODY
20:20:14 ELSE'S DRI ENTITLEMENTS.
20:20:16 THEY HAVE NO TRANSFER OF
20:20:17 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FROM THE
20:20:18 D.O.T. PROPERTY DOWN THE ROAD.
20:20:20 WHEN THE D.O.T. BOUGHT THAT
20:20:22 PROPERTY AND THEY CONVERTED IT
20:20:23 TO A ROADWAY AND THEN THEY ALSO
20:20:25 RETURNED THAT, THEY IMPROVED
20:20:26 THAT AREA.
20:20:27 YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AND SAY,
20:20:29 OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO
20:20:30 DISIMPROVE ANOTHER AREA OR
20:20:32 IMPACT THAT BECAUSE SOMEHOW WE
20:20:34 CAN USE IT.
20:20:35 THEY CAN'T USE IT.
20:20:36 THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS TO USE IT.
20:20:39 THE CASE IS THE EBB AND FLOW OF
20:20:41 THIS WATER.
20:20:42 SWEETWATER CREEK IS AN EBB AND
20:20:45 FLOW AREA.
20:20:45 D.O.T. IS SPENDING ANOTHER
20:20:47 $10.5 MILLION TO CUT THROUGH
20:20:50 COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY TO
20:20:52 CREATE AN ESTUARY AND TO HELP
20:20:54 MAKE THAT WATER FLOW BETTER.
20:20:55 IT'S FULL.
20:20:57 THIS LAGOON IS FULL OF MANATEES.
20:21:00 FULL OF DOLPHINS.
20:21:02 AND I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH
20:21:04 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
20:21:06 ABOUT IT BEING A DEAD AREA AND
20:21:10 THE REPRESENTATION FROM THE
20:21:11 ATTORNEY THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS A
20:21:12 BORROW PIT.
20:21:13 I CAN FIND NO EVIDENCE IN ANY
20:21:15 RECORD, ANYWHERE, THAT THIS WAS
20:21:17 A BORROW PIT.
20:21:17 THE EVIDENCE I CAN FIND IS THAT
20:21:21 IT'S A NATURAL WATERWAY.
20:21:24 IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH OBJECTIVE
20:21:27 41.1, WHICH SAYS DIRECT FUTURE
20:21:30 POPULATION CONCENTRATIONS SHALL
20:21:32 BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM COASTAL
20:21:34 HIGH-HAZARD AREAS.
20:21:36 411.3, IF 50% OR MORE OF THE
20:21:41 PARCEL OF LAND -- LAND IT SAYS.
20:21:43 IT DOESN'T SAY WATER -- LOCATED
20:21:44 WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
20:21:45 AREA, THEN THE ENTIRE PARCEL
20:21:47 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE
20:21:48 COASTAL HIGH-HAZARD AREA.
20:21:51 ISOLATED AREA AS DEFINED BY
20:21:54 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD MODEL AND
20:21:56 THE ELEVATIONS ARE SURROUNDED,
20:21:58 IF THE BODY OF WATER SHALL BE
20:22:00 CONSIDERED WITHIN THE COASTAL
20:22:01 HIGH HAZARD, IT IS ONLY WATER.
20:22:03 THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
20:22:04 RESTRICTION FOR 16 TOWN HOUSES
20:22:06 AND AN EASEMENT ACROSS A PARK,
20:22:10 DEDICATED, THAT PARK IS
20:22:11 DEDICATED TO THE RESIDENTS, TO
20:22:13 THE GUESTS, AND TENANTS OF ROCKY
20:22:16 POINT.
20:22:17 IT IS NOT DEDICATED AS AN
20:22:19 EASEMENT.
20:22:20 AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY
20:22:22 THEY GOT THE EASEMENT, BUT THEY
20:22:23 GOT IT.
20:22:23 AN EASEMENT TO WATER.
20:22:25 OKAY?
20:22:27 USE IT FOR WATER.
20:22:32 THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.
20:22:33 THE PURPOSE.
20:22:34 THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT WAS.
20:22:35 IT SHOWED ON ALL THE DRI MAPS
20:22:37 THAT IT WAS PART OF A
20:22:39 PRESERVATION AREA, PART OF A
20:22:40 HARBOR.
20:22:40 IF YOU LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE
20:22:42 OTHER RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, IT
20:22:44 SAYS IN THERE THAT ANY PROPERTY
20:22:46 OWNER SHALL SIGN THIS RESTRICTED
20:22:49 COVENANTS FROM ROCKY POINT.
20:22:51 THEY HAVEN'T SIGNED THAT, TO MY
20:22:52 KNOWLEDGE.
20:22:53 AND IT SAYS IN THERE ALSO, THIS
20:22:55 IS A MARINA OR HARBOR OR WATER
20:22:56 USE.
20:22:57 IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT
20:22:59 DEVELOPMENT IF YOU GET A LAND
20:23:01 USE AGREEMENT OR LAND USE
20:23:02 DESIGNATION, YOU CAN SUDDENLY
20:23:04 FILL IT AND BUILD ON IT.
20:23:06 POLICY 41.5, PLAN AMENDMENTS,
20:23:12 WHEN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
20:23:14 AREA SHALL BE LIMITED TO USES
20:23:15 THAT ARE WATER ENHANCED, WATER
20:23:18 RELATED, WATER DEPENDENT, OR
20:23:20 WHICH HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO SUPPORT
20:23:21 THE TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY.
20:23:23 THAT DOESN'T DO ANY OF IT.
20:23:25 TOWN HOUSES DON'T FIT INTO THAT
20:23:27 CATEGORY.
20:23:27 IT IS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THAT
20:23:29 POLICY.
20:23:29 4116, LIMIT THE DEVELOPMENT IN
20:23:34 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD TO USES
20:23:36 THAT ARE VESTED OR -- THAT ARE
20:23:38 SHOWN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
20:23:40 AND DEFINED AS URBAN DESIGN AND
20:23:42 LAND USE ELEMENT.
20:23:42 IT'S NOT SHOWN, AND IT'S NOT
20:23:44 DEFINED.
20:23:45 THEY DON'T HAVE ENTITLEMENT FOR
20:23:48 THAT.
20:23:48 PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENTS, WHICH
20:23:52 WOULD INCREASE DENSITIES WITHIN
20:23:54 THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA AND
20:23:56 DEMONSTRATE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS
20:23:57 ON THE HURRICANE EVACUATION
20:23:59 TIMES.
20:24:01 HOW CAN THEY DO THAT?
20:24:02 WHEN THE WESTIN WAS DEVELOPED,
20:24:05 THEY PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE
20:24:08 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES AND
20:24:10 TO IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION AT
20:24:15 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE AND
20:24:16 COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY.
20:24:18 THOSE ENTITLEMENTS AND THOSE
20:24:20 TRANSPORTATION CAPACITIES WERE
20:24:21 USED UP.
20:24:22 EVEN IF THERE WERE REMAINING
20:24:24 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR THE REST
20:24:26 OF ROCKY POINT, THERE IS NO
20:24:28 CAPACITY LEFT IN TRANSPORTATION
20:24:30 ON THE CAUSEWAY, WHETHER 16
20:24:32 UNITS, 5 UNITS, 10 UNITS,
20:24:34 WHATEVER IT IS, THEY CAN ARGUE
20:24:35 THAT THEY ARE BELOW THE
20:24:36 THRESHOLD, BUT THEY HAVEN'T
20:24:38 GOTTEN TO THAT.
20:24:39 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE LAND
20:24:40 USE THAT ENTITLED THEM TO DO
20:24:43 ANYTHING, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT
20:24:44 THEY DESERVE.
20:24:45 THEY DON'T DESERVE ANY
20:24:47 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON A PIECE OF
20:24:49 WATER THAT IS FULL OF MANATEES
20:24:51 AND FULL OF DOLPHINS.
20:24:52 ONE OF THE SPEAKERS FOLLOWING
20:24:53 ME, GOING TO SHOW YOU THE VIDEOS
20:24:56 WE JUST TOOK THIS PAST WEEK OF
20:24:58 THE NONEXISTENT MARINE LIFE IN
20:25:00 THIS BASIN.
20:25:01 OBJECTIVE 41.3, CREATE A MORE
20:25:08 DISASTER-RESISTANT COMMUNITY BY
20:25:10 MITIGATING THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS
20:25:12 ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANES AND
20:25:13 SEVERE WEATHER.
20:25:13 ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANES AND
20:25:15 SEVERE WEATHER.
20:25:16 HOW WILL THEY DO THAT?
20:25:17 THEY CAN'T GET TO THAT.
20:25:19 THERE IS A PATH HERE FOR THEM
20:25:20 THAT GOES NOWHERE.
20:25:22 AND THEY ARE ARGUING THAT THEY
20:25:24 SOMEHOW ARE ENTITLED TO A LAND
20:25:25 USE DESIGNATION FOR WATER, AND
20:25:27 IF YOU DON'T STOP IT HERE, IT'S
20:25:30 GOING TO CONTINUE ALL AROUND
20:25:31 BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ALREADY
20:25:32 TOLD YOU, ZONING EXISTS, FOR
20:25:34 EXAMPLE, ALL THE WAY FROM
20:25:36 BAYSHORE, HALFWAY ACROSS THE BAY
20:25:38 OVER TO DAVIS ISLAND.
20:25:40 SO THE COMMERCIAL HIGH-RISE
20:25:42 DESIGNATION THAT'S ON THE
20:25:42 BAYSHORE SIDE GOES HALFWAY OUT
20:25:45 IN THE BAY.
20:25:45 THAT'S THE NEXT STEP, OR THE
20:25:50 OTHER SIDE, OVER ON HARBOUR
20:25:52 ISLAND.
20:25:53 HALF OF IT IS INDUSTRIAL ON ONE
20:25:55 SIZE.
20:25:56 HALF IS RESIDENTIAL ON THE
20:25:57 OTHER.
20:25:58 WHERE DOES THAT STOP?
20:25:59 START BUILDING INDUSTRIAL PLANTS
20:26:01 IN THE CANAL BETWEEN THE TWO OF
20:26:02 THEM?
20:26:03 IF SOMEBODY CAN GET A --
20:26:06 PURCHASE SOME PART OF THAT LAND,
20:26:09 AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
20:26:10 PARCELS THAT ARE SUBMERGED
20:26:12 PARCEL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, ALL
20:26:14 AROUND THE BASIN, ALL AROUND THE
20:26:15 PENINSULA, ALL ALONG THE RIVER
20:26:17 THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED.
20:26:19 IF IT DOESN'T STOP HERE, WHERE
20:26:21 DOES IT STOP?
20:26:22 YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO SELL
20:26:24 IS TAMPA BAY.
20:26:25 TAMPA BAY IS THE BAY.
20:26:26 IT IS THE WATER.
20:26:27 IT IS THE BEAUTY OF IT.
20:26:29 IT IS THE RECREATIONAL PURPOSES
20:26:30 THAT WERE INTENDED FOR ITS USE.
20:26:32 WE STARTED RECLAIMING IT IN THE
20:26:34 '70s.
20:26:35 WHY REVERSE IT?
20:26:36 THERE IS NO REASON FOR IT.
20:26:37 I'M SAYING TO YOU -- I'M URGING
20:26:40 YOU, YOU ARE THE GATE KEEPERS
20:26:43 HERE.
20:26:44 STOP THIS.
20:26:45 SHUT THE GATE.
20:26:46 DON'T LET THEM THROUGH, AND
20:26:48 DON'T LET THE NEXT ONE THROUGH
20:26:49 EITHER.
20:26:49 IT'S AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH ISSUE
20:26:52 WHERE YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE HAVE
20:26:54 COME OUT.
20:26:54 THEY ARE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
20:26:56 THEY ARE FROM DANA SHORES.
20:26:58 THEY ARE FROM BAY CREST, THEY
20:26:59 ARE FROM ALL OVER THAT WHOLE
20:27:01 SECTION.
20:27:01 THIS PROJECT HAS NO MERIT.
20:27:04 IT HAD NO MERIT TO BEGIN WITH.
20:27:06 IT DESERVES NO CONSIDERATION
20:27:08 WHATSOEVER.
20:27:09 I'M URGING YOU TO DENY THIS
20:27:11 PROJECT AND NOT LET IT GO
20:27:19 FORWARD.
20:27:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:27:28 >> MS. ROBERTS HAS A SPEAKER
20:27:30 WAIVER FORM.
20:27:31 PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
20:27:32 LEANNE ACEIA.
20:27:34 LARRY LUCAS.
20:27:36 MICHELLE BIRDSIDE.
20:27:40 AMY ORIELE.
20:27:44 SHEILA ZIMILO.
20:27:47 GARY HOFFMAN.
20:27:48 GARY HOFFMAN.
20:27:50 >> HE'S OUTSIDE.
20:27:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE'S HERE.
20:27:55 SEVEN ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
20:27:56 THANK YOU.
20:28:03 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL
20:28:05 MEMBERS.
20:28:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
20:28:06 TIME.
20:28:07 ALLISON ROBERTS, 3926 AMERICANA
20:28:10 DRIVE.
20:28:11 I AM PRESIDENT OF THE DANA
20:28:11 SHORES CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
20:28:13 WE ARE A NEARBY COMMUNITY, 330
20:28:16 HOMES, APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND
20:28:18 FOLKS LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
20:28:20 FOR THE RECORD, WE WERE NOT
20:28:22 REACHED OUT TO BY MR. HORNER OR
20:28:24 ANYONE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT
20:28:25 REPRESENTED HIM, AT LEAST NOT TO
20:28:27 OUR BOARD.
20:28:28 I'D ALSO, FOR THE RECORD, LIKE
20:28:29 TO STATE THAT WE'RE A BIT
20:28:33 DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHEN OUR
20:28:34 COMMUNITY WAS DEVELOPED, WATER
20:28:36 WAS MADE.
20:28:39 IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE TRYING
20:28:40 TO MAKE LAND.
20:28:41 WE'RE PRETTY DISTINCTLY
20:28:46 DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE TWO
20:28:48 COMMUNITIES HERE.
20:28:48 WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS TRY TO
20:28:50 CLARIFY AND SIMPLIFY A FEW
20:28:52 THINGS.
20:28:52 I THINK THAT WAS REQUESTED BY
20:28:54 ONE OF THE EARLIER SPEAKERS BY
20:28:55 PROVIDING JUST A FEW DETAILS TO
20:28:57 SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU'VE
20:28:58 ALREADY SEEN.
20:28:58 HERE WE HAVE ON THE PODIUM, SWC
20:29:04 -- FWC LETTER INDICATING THAT
20:29:06 THIS AREA WAS DESIGNATED AS A
20:29:09 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE IN
20:29:10 DECEMBER OF 2004.
20:29:11 THAT MEANS THAT THE MANATEE HAD
20:29:17 THE LAND BEFORE THE CURRENT
20:29:18 APPLICANT OWNED THE LAND.
20:29:20 THE MANATEES WERE THERE BEFORE.
20:29:21 SO FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE ANY
20:29:24 REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS FOR
20:29:26 DEVELOPMENT I THINK WOULD BE
20:29:29 DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.
20:29:30 SECONDLY, THE FLORIDA MANATEE
20:29:37 SANCTUARY, ENABLED THROUGH THE
20:29:39 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE, IT
20:29:41 INDICATES HERE THAT WHAT WE'RE
20:29:42 DOING OR WHAT THE STATE IS DOING
20:29:43 IS PROTECTING MANATEES FROM
20:29:46 HARMFUL COLLISIONS, PROTECTING
20:29:48 THE MARINE HABITAT, AND
20:29:50 PROVIDING SAFE HAVENS WHERE
20:29:52 MANATEE CAN REST, REPRODUCE,
20:29:55 GIVE BIRTH OR NOURISH
20:29:58 UNDISTURBED.
20:29:59 AS MR. MICHELINI INDICATED,
20:30:07 THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE
20:30:08 WOULD BE IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION
20:30:12 TO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
20:30:13 IF WE WERE TO IGNORE THAT THIS
20:30:14 IS A MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE.
20:30:16 IT'S FOR THE REASON OF KEEPING
20:30:19 THE HABITAT THAT YOU HAVE THIS
20:30:23 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY.
20:30:25 MAY I SEE THE VIDEO, PLEASE?
20:30:32 COULD I GET SOME HELP WHILE I'M
20:30:51 TALKING UP HERE FOR A MINUTE?
20:30:53 WHAT I'LL SHOW YOU WHEN THIS
20:30:55 COMES UP IS THAT THE MANATEE ARE
20:30:57 OFTEN SEEN IN THIS AREA.
20:30:59 IN SPEAKING WITH THE PRESIDENT
20:31:03 OF TAMPA BAY WATCH, MANATEE
20:31:06 ZONES A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT
20:31:08 WERE A BREEDING HERD.
20:31:09 YOU HAVE FEMALE, CALVES IN HERE.
20:31:13 THEY ARE BEING CHASED BY THE
20:31:14 MALES.
20:31:14 IT'S A VIDEO.
20:31:18 JUST THE OTHER NIGHT, THEY WERE
20:31:26 FILMED AGAIN OUT THERE.
20:31:27 SO THESE MANATEE ARE REGULARLY
20:31:29 IN HERE.
20:31:29 THIS IS WHERE THEY EAT, BREED,
20:31:36 WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE THEY DO.
20:31:38 IN ADDITION TO THE MANATEES IN
20:31:40 THIS LOCATION, YOU'LL ALSO SEE
20:31:42 OTHER WILDLIFE BACK HERE ON THE
20:31:45 OVERHEAD.
20:31:46 ANOTHER ENDANGERED SPECIES WE
20:31:51 HAVE.
20:31:52 SPOONBILL.
20:31:53 TRY ONE THING HERE.
20:31:56 THIS IS A THRIVING ECOSYSTEM.
20:32:04 IT IS ACROSS FROM AND ADJACENT
20:32:05 TO WHERE SWEETWATER CREEK COMES
20:32:08 INTO AN ESTUARY AREA.
20:32:09 THE AREA IS ALSO A NAVIGABLE
20:32:18 WATERWAY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT,
20:32:21 AND IS USED BY COMMERCIAL
20:32:23 FISHERMEN.
20:32:23 IF YOU GO IN THERE ANY DAY OF
20:32:25 THE WEEK, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
20:32:26 TRAPS.
20:32:27 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE DOING
20:32:28 FISHING, CRABBING, AND THAT'S
20:32:31 BECAUSE THERE'S STUFF IN THERE.
20:32:34 IT'S ALIVE.
20:32:34 SO THE REASON WE BRING UP
20:32:40 WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ALIVE, HOW
20:32:42 IT'S DOING, IS BECAUSE ONE OF
20:32:43 THE POLICIES BEFORE YOU IS
20:32:45 WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS A
20:32:46 PROBLEMATIC AREA, AS JUST
20:32:50 INDICATION FOR DREDGE AND --
20:32:52 JUSTIFICATION FOR DREDGE AND
20:32:53 FILL.
20:32:53 IT IS NOT A PROBLEMATIC AREA.
20:32:55 IT IS AN AREA USED AS AN
20:32:57 IMPORTANT MARINE AREA.
20:32:58 IT IS AN AREA THAT IF WE DON'T
20:33:00 -- IF WE FILL IT, WE'RE GOING
20:33:02 AGAINST ENVIRONMENTAL OBJECTIVE
20:33:03 1.18, TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE
20:33:06 THE ABUNDANCE AND DIVERSITY OF
20:33:08 LIVING RESOURCES AND AGAINST
20:33:10 1.20, ENVIRONMENTAL OBJECTIVES.
20:33:12 WE'LL GET YOU THE VIDEO HERE
20:33:20 SHORTLY.
20:33:20 IN ADDITION, ONE THING THAT WE
20:33:23 DO KNOW ABOUT THIS AREA IS IT
20:33:26 HAS A LIVING SHORELINE.
20:33:27 SO MUCH OF THE AREA HAS
20:33:30 MANGROVES.
20:33:32 WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE
20:33:33 REPRESENTATION PROVIDED BY THE
20:33:34 APPLICANT, WE DO KNOW FOR SURE
20:33:39 THAT 521 FEET, ROUGHLY,
20:33:44 ESTIMATED AS MANGROVES THAT
20:33:45 WOULD BE DESTROYED JUST THROUGH
20:33:47 THIS PROJECT ALONE.
20:33:48 SO WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO LOOK
20:33:52 AT THIS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL
20:33:54 PERSPECTIVE, EXCEPT THAT
20:33:55 MANGROVES, WILDLIFE TELLS US,
20:33:58 THIS IS NOT AN AREA THAT IS IN
20:34:00 SUCH DIRE NEED TO BE FILLED IN
20:34:03 IN ORDER TO BE PHASED TO SAVE
20:34:07 THE BAY.
20:34:07 WHAT WE HAVE NEARBY IS THE
20:34:11 BRIDGE THAT STEVE TALKED ABOUT,
20:34:13 THE 230 FEET SPAN GOING IN ALONG
20:34:15 THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY
20:34:16 AT A COST OF 10.5 MILLION TO
20:34:18 TAXPAYERS.
20:34:19 IN ORDER TO FURTHER ENHANCE THIS
20:34:21 AREA.
20:34:22 SO IT'S AN ODD THING TO BE
20:34:23 TAKING THE AREA AT THE SAME TIME
20:34:25 THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE IT
20:34:27 EVEN MORE THAN IT IS TODAY.
20:34:29 ANOTHER THING THAT I FOUND
20:34:34 INTERESTING, TWO YEARS AGO,
20:34:37 RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM
20:34:39 THIS PARCEL WAS A REQUEST FOR A
20:34:44 LAND USE CHANGE FROM CMU-35 TO
20:34:48 UMU-60.
20:34:49 SO THE SUBJECT SITE WAS A -- OR
20:34:54 THREE YEARS AGO IN 2015, AND
20:34:56 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT B TONIGHT.
20:34:58 THAT PLAN OR THAT MAP AMENDMENT
20:35:01 WAS CONSIDERED INCONSISTENT,
20:35:04 CONSIDERED INCONSISTENT LARGELY
20:35:08 BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF COASTAL
20:35:10 HIGH HAZARD INCONSISTENCIES IN
20:35:12 THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES.
20:35:14 SO IF RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET
20:35:20 SOMETHING THAT WAS 3.06 ACRES
20:35:22 INSTEAD OF 3 ACRES, FOR
20:35:23 SOMETHING THAT IS ASKING FOR 76
20:35:26 NET INCREASE UNITS INSTEAD OF
20:35:27 105 NET INCREASE UNITS CAN BE
20:35:30 FOUND INCONSISTENT, HOW COULD
20:35:32 THIS NOT BE FOUND INCONSISTENT?
20:35:33 IT'S SMALL.
20:35:44 FINGERPRINTS, BUT HERE IS A
20:35:48 PICTURE OF THE MANATEE.
20:35:51 THIS IS A PRETTY ACTIVE AREA.
20:36:03 IT IS A PRETTY HEALTHY AREA.
20:36:05 THOSE ARE REALLY THE KEYS HERE.
20:36:21 WE WANT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.
20:36:22 IT'S INCONSISTENT.
20:36:23 IT'S INCONSISTENT FROM A MARINE
20:36:25 STANDPOINT.
20:36:25 IT'S INCONSISTENT IN TERMS OF
20:36:27 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
20:36:29 STANDPOINT.
20:36:30 >> A QUESTION.
20:36:32 YOU ARE ACTUALLY TELLING US THAT
20:36:33 YOU TOOK IT VIDEO -- TOOK THIS
20:36:36 VIDEO AT THE SPOT WHERE THE
20:36:37 APPLICATION COVERS, CORRECT?
20:36:39 I HAVE TO ASK THE SPEAKER.
20:36:42 >> I DID NOT TAKE THE VIDEO.
20:36:43 THE VIDEO WAS TAKEN.
20:36:44 IT WAS TAKEN TWO WEEKS AGO.
20:36:45 I DID HOWEVER STAND MONDAY NIGHT
20:36:49 OUT THERE WITH A LARGE GROUP OF
20:36:51 FOLKS WHERE THESE MANATEE AGAIN
20:36:54 WERE FILMED FROM THE TOP FLOOR
20:36:55 OF THE WESTIN.
20:36:56 >>HARRY COHEN: I MEAN, WE'RE NOT
20:36:57 AS FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA AS
20:36:59 YOU ARE.
20:36:59 YOUR TELLING US THIS IS THE AREA
20:37:01 IN QUESTION.
20:37:02 >> I CAN ATTEST THAT IS
20:37:04 ABSOLUTELY THE AREA BECAUSE OF
20:37:06 THE LANDMARKS THAT ARE SHOWN IN
20:37:08 THAT VIDEO.
20:37:11 >> THAT SHEET YOU HAD ABOUT THE
20:37:12 MANGROVES, WHAT WAS THAT SHEET
20:37:15 FROM?
20:37:15 IS THAT FROM AN OFFICIAL SOURCE
20:37:18 OR WHO IS IT FROM?
20:37:19 >> THAT'S FROM THE APPLICANT'S
20:37:20 FILE.
20:37:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: FROM THE
20:37:21 APPLICANT FILE.
20:37:22 FROM WHAT YEAR?
20:37:24 >> WHEN I WENT TO THE PLANNING
20:37:26 COMMISSION A MONTH AGO.
20:37:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO IT'S THIS
20:37:29 YEARS.
20:37:29 THANK YOU.
20:37:31 >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
20:37:32 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN
20:37:34 ANSWER?
20:37:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: MIGHT WANT TO
20:37:40 TAKE IT OFF THE CAMERA SO WE
20:37:41 DON'T SEE ALL YOUR TEXT MESSAGES
20:37:43 UP HERE.
20:37:43 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:37:47 >> PROBABLY ANSWER A LOT OF
20:37:49 QUESTIONS WITH THAT.
20:37:50 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:37:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE'RE JUST HAPPY
20:37:55 WE SAW THE MANATEES AND NOTHING
20:37:56 ELSE.
20:37:57 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:37:59 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:37:59 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR
20:38:02 CONSIDERATION.
20:38:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: THE NEXT
20:38:04 SPEAKER.
20:38:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPEAKER WAIVER
20:38:13 FORM.
20:38:14 JAN GILBERT.
20:38:15 DAN GILBERT.
20:38:16 ROBERT SNYDER.
20:38:18 ROBERT KUHN.
20:38:24 JOHN KUHN.
20:38:25 I'M SORRY.
20:38:26 THANK YOU.
20:38:26 I SAW TWO NAMES SCRATCHED OUT.
20:38:28 JEFF COLEMAN AND GARY HOFFMAN.
20:38:31 I DON'T SEE THEM.
20:38:31 JANET MARLEY.
20:38:33 THANK YOU.
20:38:34 ASHLEY BOUSSART.
20:38:38 SOMEBODY OUTSIDE?
20:38:41 ASHLEY BROUSSARD.
20:38:44 NO, I DON'T SEE THAT PERSON.
20:38:51 NO RESPONSE.
20:38:52 SANDRINE GUEZ.
20:39:00 >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF
20:39:01 SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD GIVE THEIR
20:39:02 MINUTE.
20:39:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT YOUR
20:39:04 INTENTION?
20:39:05 TAKE THAT NAME OFF.
20:39:06 >> THAT'S FINE.
20:39:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
20:39:07 THEN I HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE,
20:39:09 FOUR FIVE ADDITIONAL NAMES FOR A
20:39:11 TOTAL OF EIGHT MINUTES.
20:39:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE WANT AS
20:39:46 PERFECT A RECORD WE CAN GET.
20:39:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: PEOPLE ON THIS
20:39:53 SIDE OF THE WALL, ARE YOU ALL
20:39:54 PLANNING ON SPEAKING?
20:39:58 >> THEY ARE SPEAKING ALREADY.
20:40:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MANY OF YOU
20:40:01 ON THIS SIDE GAVE UP YOUR
20:40:03 MINUTES?
20:40:03 HOW MANY MORE SITTING IN THE
20:40:08 AUDIENCE THAT HAVEN'T GIVEN UP
20:40:10 YOUR MINUTES THAT YOU'RE GOING
20:40:12 TO SPEAK?
20:40:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN WE ORDER
20:40:27 BREAKFAST?
20:40:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
20:40:31 LET ME DO THIS AGAIN.
20:40:38 WE'RE TRYING TO GET A FEEL OF
20:40:41 HOW MANY MORE BECAUSE PEOPLE
20:40:44 KEEP GIVING THEIR NAMES TO
20:40:46 SOMEONE ELSE.
20:40:47 WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL
20:40:48 OF HOW MANY MORE ARE LEFT THAT
20:40:51 WANT TO SPEAK.
20:40:51 THOSE WHO HAVEN'T GIVEN UP THEIR
20:40:55 MINUTES, HOW MANY PLAN ON
20:40:59 SPEAKING?
20:41:06 IF YOU GAVE YOUR MINUTES, YOU
20:41:15 CAN'T SPEAK.
20:41:16 I HOPE YOU REALIZE THIS.
20:41:17 QUITE A FEW.
20:41:30 >> WE COULD MAKE THE REQUEST TO
20:41:32 PEOPLE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY
20:41:33 TO REPEAT THE SAME THING.
20:41:34 YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL YOUR
20:41:39 TIME.
20:41:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
20:41:44 LET'S GO.
20:41:45 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
20:41:46 COUNCIL, BRIAN SYKES, ATTORNEY
20:41:48 WITH THE LAW FIRM OF MERIDIAN
20:41:49 PARTNERS.
20:41:50 4600 WEST CYPRESS STREET, SUITE
20:41:53 130, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33607.
20:41:55 I HAVE BEEN RETAINED AND AM HERE
20:41:57 REPRESENTING THE DANA SHORES
20:41:58 CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND NUMEROUS
20:42:00 MEMBERS OR NUMEROUS RESIDENTS IN
20:42:02 ROCKY POINT.
20:42:02 WHY ARE WE HERE?
20:42:05 WHY ARE WE TAKING MY TIME, YOUR
20:42:08 TIME, STAFF'S TIME, EVERYONE'S
20:42:09 TIME IN THIS ROOM?
20:42:10 WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS ASSIGNING
20:42:13 A LAND USE DESIGNATION TO WATER.
20:42:17 SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T SOUND
20:42:19 RIGHT ABOUT THAT, DOES IT?
20:42:21 A LAND USE DESIGNATION TO WATER.
20:42:24 I KIND OF WISH I HAD THE
20:42:25 FORETHOUGHT OF CREATING A BINGO
20:42:27 CARD TONIGHT WITH NUMBERS ON IT
20:42:29 AND SEE WHO COULD GET THE MOST
20:42:32 WATERS IN ONE DAY BECAUSE THAT'S
20:42:34 WHAT WE'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME
20:42:36 AGAIN, FROM STAFF REPORT, FROM
20:42:37 THE APPLICANT, FROM OTHER PEOPLE
20:42:39 WHO ARE SPEAKING.
20:42:40 THIS IS WATER.
20:42:41 THIS IS NOT LAND.
20:42:42 THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES SAID,
20:42:44 WE WANT TO CREATE LAND.
20:42:45 WE WANT TO CREATE UPLANDS.
20:42:47 THIS WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE
20:42:52 DEVELOPED.
20:42:54 THIS WAS NOT A DEVELOPMENT
20:42:56 PARCEL.
20:42:57 AND THERE'S A LOT TO GO BACK ON.
20:42:59 NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN GO BACK TO
20:43:01 THE CITY IN AN EXERCISE OF
20:43:04 JUDGMENT OF HOW PROPERTY SHOULD
20:43:08 BE DEVELOPED, CREATED THE FUTURE
20:43:10 LAND USE MAP.
20:43:11 GUESS WHAT?
20:43:12 THERE'S NO DESIGNATION FOR THIS
20:43:14 PARCEL ON THERE.
20:43:15 THAT'S KIND OF A COMPELLING
20:43:18 REASON RIGHT THERE.
20:43:20 THE CITY DID NOT FORESEE THAT
20:43:22 THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PARCEL, SO
20:43:23 WE DON'T NEED TO ASSIGN A LAND
20:43:25 USE DESIGNATION TO THIS PARCEL.
20:43:27 THAT'S PRETTY TELLING.
20:43:29 WHAT ELSE?
20:43:32 THE PLAT.
20:43:33 IN THE BOOK THAT WE'VE GIVEN
20:43:35 YOU, WE'VE GOT EXAMPLES OF ALL
20:43:36 THIS.
20:43:37 I'LL BRING SOME OF IT UP, BUT IF
20:43:38 YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT OF ROCKY
20:43:44 POINT, NOW, GRANTED, THIS IS NOT
20:43:46 PART OF THE PLAT.
20:43:47 I'M NOT INSINUATING IT IS.
20:43:50 BUT ON THE PLAT, IT REPRESENTS
20:43:51 IT AS A HARBOR.
20:43:52 WE SAW THIS EARLIER IN THE DRI,
20:43:56 MAP H.
20:43:57 MAP H OF THE DRI, WHAT IS IT
20:44:00 REFERENCED AS?
20:44:01 HARBOR, PRESERVATION AREA.
20:44:02 THAT WAS THE FIRST MAP, BY THE
20:44:03 WAY.
20:44:04 THE LATEST MAP H.
20:44:05 HARBOR, PRESERVATION AREA.
20:44:08 THE DEED, WHEN IT FIRST GOT
20:44:13 CONVEYED OUT FROM THE LARGER
20:44:15 PARCEL, MR. LEISEY TO MR. BARKY,
20:44:19 THE DEED IN THE LEGAL
20:44:20 DESCRIPTION, WHAT DOES IT SAY?
20:44:23 BRING IT DOWN.
20:44:24 LEGAL DESCRIPTION, MARINA.
20:44:29 ABSENT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:44:31 EVERYTHING IN THE LAST 20 YEARS
20:44:35 THAT HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT THIS
20:44:37 PROJECT, EVERY MAP, EVERY SITE
20:44:38 PLAN, EVERYTHING SHOWING YOU
20:44:40 IT'S A HARBOR, BUT YET WE'RE
20:44:42 TRYING TO CREATE A LAND USE
20:44:44 DESIGNATION SO IT COMPLIES WITH
20:44:47 THE ZONING.
20:44:47 THE APPLICANT STATED, ALL WE'RE
20:44:49 TRYING TO DO IS CHANGE THE COLOR
20:44:51 ON THE MAP SO WE CAN BE
20:44:52 CONSISTENT WITH ZONING.
20:44:54 THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO
20:44:55 IT.
20:44:56 CITY STAFF TOLD YOU, IT'S NOT
20:44:58 LAND USE COMPLIES WITH ZONING.
20:45:01 ZONING COMPLIES WITH LAND USE.
20:45:04 BIG DIFFERENCE.
20:45:06 THERE'S NO NEED, THERE'S NO
20:45:08 REQUIREMENT THAT THIS PARCEL HAS
20:45:10 TO HAVE A LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:45:12 WHY IS THERE A ZONING
20:45:13 DESIGNATION?
20:45:14 BECAUSE OF THE ZONING MAPS.
20:45:15 YOU HEARD STAFF SAY, ZONING
20:45:18 LINES EXTEND OUT TO THE
20:45:19 BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY LIMITS.
20:45:21 IT COVERS THINGS LIKE WATER AND
20:45:24 LAND.
20:45:25 OKAY, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
20:45:27 LINES ON A PAPER IN A ZONING
20:45:30 DESIGNATION.
20:45:31 THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU
20:45:31 ENTITLEMENTS.
20:45:32 THERE SHOULD BE NO REASONABLE
20:45:34 EXPECTATION THAT THIS PROPERTY
20:45:36 COULD BE DEVELOPED BASED UPON AN
20:45:38 RM-24 ZONING DESIGNATION ON A
20:45:41 MAP WITHOUT HAVING AN UNDERLYING
20:45:46 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:45:47 THE ENTITLEMENTS COME FROM THE
20:45:48 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
20:45:52 I WAS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
20:45:53 ABOUT THE DRI, BUT I DON'T THINK
20:45:55 WE NEED TO.
20:45:55 THE CITY STAFF COVERED IT.
20:45:57 THE APPLICANT DIDN'T BRING IT
20:45:58 UP.
20:45:59 IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION
20:45:59 HEARING, THEY SPENT A LOT OF
20:46:00 TIME TALKING ABOUT ENTITLEMENTS
20:46:03 AND BORROWING THE ENTITLEMENTS.
20:46:05 YOU CAN'T BORROW ENTITLEMENTS
20:46:06 THAT ARE NOT YOURS.
20:46:07 YOU CAN'T SUIT UP AND GO PLAY
20:46:10 FOOTBALL IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE
20:46:12 FOOTBALL TEAM, SO WE'RE NOT EVEN
20:46:14 GOING TO DISCUSS THAT.
20:46:15 LET'S TALK ABOUT THE AGREEMENT.
20:46:16 THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN SAYING,
20:46:17 WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT.
20:46:19 IT'S A BINDING AGREEMENT.
20:46:20 WE CAN'T VIOLATE IT.
20:46:22 IT CAN BE CHANGED.
20:46:24 NOT ONLY COULD IT BE CHANGED,
20:46:27 BUT IT CAN BE TERMINATED.
20:46:29 THE AGREEMENT ITSELF SAYS --
20:46:38 LET'S TRY IT AGAIN.
20:46:39 THAT THE GRANTEE, THE APPLICANT,
20:46:46 NOTIFIES GRANTOR NO LONGER
20:46:48 INTENDS TO PURSUE TO DEVELOP THE
20:46:50 CONCEPT OR ANY VARIATION THEREOF
20:46:51 ALLOWABLE UNDER THE TERMS OF THE
20:46:53 AGREEMENT AND THE AGREEMENT
20:46:54 ALONG WITH THE PARTY'S RIGHTS
20:46:55 AND OBLIGATIONS TERMINATE.
20:46:56 WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?
20:46:58 WELL, THERE'S OTHER PROPERTY
20:46:59 NEXT TO THIS AREA.
20:47:00 IT'S RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE
20:47:03 APARTMENTS.
20:47:03 WHAT IF THEY COULD GET AN
20:47:05 AGREEMENT WITH POST TO SAY WE'RE
20:47:07 GOING TO TAKE ACCESS HERE OFF OF
20:47:09 YOUR DRIVE AND THROUGH YOUR
20:47:10 COMMUNITY OR WE'RE GOING TO
20:47:11 EXPAND YOUR COMMUNITY ONTO THIS
20:47:13 PARCEL.
20:47:14 NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE R-35.
20:47:16 NOW WE'RE BACK TO 105 UNITS.
20:47:19 THE APPLICANT SAID THERE'S NO
20:47:20 WAY -- WE COULD DEVELOP UNDER RM
20:47:22 24 OR 35, WE COULD NOT DO THAT
20:47:25 MUCH DENSITY ON THIS PARCEL.
20:47:27 HE'S PROBABLY RIGHT.
20:47:28 COMBINE IT WITH ANOTHER PARCEL?
20:47:30 SHARED STORMWATER.
20:47:33 ACCESS.
20:47:34 TRANSFER OF DENSITY.
20:47:36 NOW YOU CAN GET TO THOSE
20:47:40 NUMBERS.
20:47:40 THESE ARE THE CONCERNS WE'RE
20:47:42 WORRIED ABOUT.
20:47:43 THESE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.
20:47:44 LET'S GO THROUGH AND TALK A
20:47:48 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MANATEE
20:47:51 PROTECTION ZONE.
20:47:52 AS MS. ROBERTS NOTED, THE
20:47:55 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE CAME
20:47:57 INTO BEING IN 2004.
20:48:01 2004.
20:48:02 APPLICANT ACQUIRES PROPERTY IN
20:48:05 2010.
20:48:05 WE HAVE COPIES OF THE DEED FOR
20:48:07 YOU AS PART OF THE PACKAGE, IF
20:48:09 ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK IT UP.
20:48:11 BUT THAT MEANS THAT THERE WAS NO
20:48:14 REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF BEING
20:48:16 ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY
20:48:18 KNOWING THAT IT WAS A MANATEE
20:48:19 PROTECTION ZONE.
20:48:20 YOUR COMP PLANS SPECIFICALLY
20:48:24 NOTES THAT YOU ARE TO PROTECT
20:48:26 MANATEES, THAT YOU ARE TO
20:48:27 PRESERVE THEIR NATURAL HABITAT
20:48:29 AND TO PRESERVE THINGS LIKE THIS
20:48:31 HAPPENING, TO PREVENT
20:48:32 DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING WITHIN THE
20:48:33 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE.
20:48:35 THIS REQUEST IS ABSOLUTELY
20:48:38 DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO WHAT
20:48:40 YOUR COMP PLAN SAYS YOU ARE
20:48:42 SUPPOSED TO DO.
20:48:42 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO
20:48:44 BE CONSIDERED.
20:48:45 IT WAS ALSO STATED THAT THIS IS
20:48:49 NOT A PRECEDENT-SETTING MATTER.
20:48:53 I DISAGREE, THIS IS A
20:48:55 PRECEDENT-SETTING MATTER.
20:48:56 IN YOUR BINDERS, THERE ARE OTHER
20:48:58 PARCELS OF LAND THAT ARE IN THE
20:49:01 WATER, THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED,
20:49:05 THAT DO NOT HAVE A LAND USE
20:49:07 DESIGNATION.
20:49:07 THERE IS A PIECE OUTSIDE OF
20:49:09 CULBREATH ISLES.
20:49:11 THERE IS A PIECE OFF OF
20:49:12 BAYSHORE.
20:49:13 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE PEOPLE
20:49:14 COME IN AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE,
20:49:15 YOU JUST GAVE THESE GUYS THE
20:49:17 LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHY CAN'T
20:49:20 YOU DO IT FOR US?
20:49:21 WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS
20:49:23 PROPERTY.
20:49:23 THIS IS A QUASI-LEGISLATIVE
20:49:27 PROCESS HERE TONIGHT.
20:49:27 THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE SETTING
20:49:29 POLICY.
20:49:29 YOU ARE ESTABLISHING POLICY FOR
20:49:31 THE CITY, FOR ITS RESIDENTS, FOR
20:49:34 ALL OF US.
20:49:34 I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE
20:49:37 POLICY THAT WE WANT TO ESTABLISH
20:49:39 IS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO
20:49:41 TOLERATE CREATING A LAND USE
20:49:44 DESIGNATION JUST BECAUSE LINES
20:49:46 ON THE ZONING MAP HAPPEN TO
20:49:48 ENCOMPASS A PIECE OF WATER THAT
20:49:50 SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD.
20:49:52 THANK YOU.
20:50:07 >> I'M HOLLY SIMMONS.
20:50:08 3908 DANA SHORES DRIVE IN TAMPA.
20:50:11 I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
20:50:12 DANA SHORES CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
20:50:13 I'VE LIVED HERE FOR OVER SEVEN
20:50:15 YEARS AND I'M A REGISTERED
20:50:17 VOTER.
20:50:17 I THINK YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A
20:50:24 DOLPHIN CLEARLY SWIMMING AROUND
20:50:27 THE SEAWALL THERE AND HUNTING,
20:50:30 GATHERING FOOD.
20:50:30 AND REALLY WHAT I'M HERE TO DO
20:50:32 IS ASK YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS
20:50:34 AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE
20:50:35 LAND USE OF THIS PROPERTY.
20:50:39 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:50:39 THAT'S Facebook FOR YOU.
20:50:45 I TURNED OFF MY TEXT.
20:50:47 I THOUGHT I WAS SAFE.
20:50:50 >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING UP
20:50:51 YOUR PHONES, PLEASE, JUST HAVE
20:50:54 ONE MANATEE PHOTO.
20:50:55 WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE
20:50:57 OTHER PHOTOS.
20:50:57 REALLY, WE DON'T.
20:50:59 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
20:51:00 ANYWAY, I MOVED HERE IN 2011
20:51:09 WHEN I MARRIED MY HUSBAND WHO
20:51:11 HAS LIVED IN TAMPA HIS ENTIRE
20:51:12 LIFE.
20:51:13 I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
20:51:14 VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE WATER,
20:51:15 WITH THE SEA LIFE THROUGHOUT OUR
20:51:16 COMMUNITY, BOTH IN SOUTH TAMPA
20:51:18 AS WELL AS NORTH OF THE COURTNEY
20:51:18 CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY.
20:51:19 DOLPHINS FREQUENT OUR AREA VERY
20:51:22 FREQUENTLY.
20:51:23 WE SEE THEM IN OUR CANALS AND
20:51:24 THROUGHOUT THE WATERWAYS
20:51:25 CONSTANTLY.
20:51:26 WE BOAT THROUGHOUT OUR AREA.
20:51:28 WE SEE THEM ALMOST EVERY TIME WE
20:51:30 GO OUT ON THE WATER, AS WELL AS
20:51:31 THE MANATEES, BUT PARTICULARLY
20:51:33 THE DOLPHINS ARE EVERYWHERE.
20:51:35 WE'VE SEEN MORE AND MORE OF THEM
20:51:36 OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
20:51:38 WE DO SEE THAT THERE ARE MORE
20:51:39 AND MORE BABIES THAT WE KEEP
20:51:42 NOTICING THROUGHOUT.
20:51:42 WE NOTICED THAT OVER THE PAST
20:51:44 TWO YEARS THEREABOUTS.
20:51:47 AND WHAT I WAS SHOWING YOU IN
20:51:48 THAT VIDEO, THAT VIDEO WAS TAKEN
20:51:50 TWO DAYS AGO IN THE LAGOON IN
20:51:52 QUESTION.
20:51:53 THAT TYPE OF VIDEO HAS BEEN
20:51:56 POSTED ON OUR DIFFERENT GROUPS
20:51:58 THAT WE HAVE AND SHARED BETWEEN
20:52:01 NEIGHBORS REGULARLY OVER THE
20:52:02 PAST WEEK OR SO.
20:52:03 SO THAT IS A CONSTANT SIGHTING.
20:52:06 IT IS REGULAR.
20:52:06 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE
20:52:08 DOLPHINS, AND WHAT THEY ARE
20:52:10 DOING THERE IS THEY ARE GOING
20:52:11 ACROSS THE SEAWALL, THEY ARE
20:52:13 HUNTING FOR FISH.
20:52:14 THAT SUPPORTS THAT OUR ECOSYSTEM
20:52:15 IS QUITE GOOD AND WE DO HAVE A
20:52:17 PLENTIFUL AMOUNT OF FISH.
20:52:18 IT'S NOT A DEAD LAGOON THAT
20:52:20 DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN IT.
20:52:21 CLEARLY, THERE'S MARINE LIFE,
20:52:23 AND WE WANT YOU TO PROTECT OUR
20:52:25 ENVIRONMENT.
20:52:25 SO PLEASE DENY THIS AMENDMENT.
20:52:26 THANK YOU.
20:52:36 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:52:37 COUNCIL PERSONS.
20:52:40 KENT BAILEY, CHAIR OF THE TAMPA
20:52:41 BAY SIERRA CLUB SPEAKING ON
20:52:43 BEHALF OF 18,000 MEMBERS AND
20:52:45 SUPPORTERS.
20:52:45 I'M GONNA TELL YOU IN ALL
20:52:48 HONESTY, READING THE CLOSED
20:52:50 CAPTIONING FROM THIS PLANNING
20:52:51 COMMISSION HEARING WAS A REAL
20:52:55 TRIP.
20:52:55 THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, PAST
20:52:58 THE LAND OF ALTERNATE FACTS, ALL
20:52:59 THE WAY INTO THE REALM OF
20:53:01 ALTERNATE LOGIC, YOU HAVE BEEN
20:53:03 ASKED TONIGHT TO BELIEVE --
20:53:06 WHETHER IT'S 16 OR 105 UNITS
20:53:08 DOESN'T MATTER.
20:53:09 IT'S IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
20:53:10 AREA.
20:53:11 HOW CAN ANY REASONABLE PERSON
20:53:13 ASK YOU TO BELIEVE THAT PUTTING
20:53:16 NEW DWELLINGS IN A COASTAL HIGH
20:53:17 HAZARD AREA DOESN'T SOMEHOW
20:53:20 INCREASE THE POPULATION IN THE
20:53:22 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD?
20:53:23 YOU GOT TO BE SMARTER THAN ME TO
20:53:27 UNDERSTAND THAT, I'LL TELL YOU
20:53:27 WHAT.
20:53:28 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE
20:53:32 PLANNING COMMISSION, I'M GOING
20:53:35 TO EXTEND MY SYMPATHIES TO YOU.
20:53:36 BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER
20:53:38 IS, NEITHER YOU NOR I NOR MOST
20:53:40 OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WOULD
20:53:42 BE HERE TONIGHT IF THEY HAD
20:53:45 SIMPLY MADE THE TOUGH CALL.
20:53:48 INSTEAD, THEY PASSED THE BUCK.
20:53:49 AND WE SEE WHERE THE BUCK HAS
20:53:52 LANDED.
20:53:52 THERE IS NO POLICY DIRECTION
20:53:56 THAT CLEARLY STATES IN THE COMP
20:53:57 PLAN THAT WATER SHOULD HAVE NO
20:54:00 LAND USE.
20:54:00 THAT IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE
20:54:02 CLOSED CAPTIONING OF THE
20:54:05 PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.
20:54:06 WELL, WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT
20:54:11 IS?
20:54:11 WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THERE NOT
20:54:13 BE POLICY DIRECTION THAT SAYS
20:54:14 WATER CAN'T HAVE A LAND USE?
20:54:15 COULD IT POSSIBLY BE THAT NOBODY
20:54:20 IN THE WORLD EVER THOUGHT THAT
20:54:21 YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT?
20:54:23 I MEAN, ISN'T IT OBVIOUS THAT
20:54:24 WATER DOESN'T HAVE A LAND USE?
20:54:26 IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE COMP
20:54:31 PLAN THAT YOU NEED TO BE
20:54:33 AMENDING, IF THERE'S SOMETHING
20:54:35 IN THE COMP PLAN THAT MAKES
20:54:37 PEOPLE THINK THAT OPEN WATER,
20:54:39 TIDAL WATER, WATER IN TAMPA BAY
20:54:42 OUGHT TO HAVE A LAND USE, THAT'S
20:54:44 WHAT YOU SHOULD BE AMENDING.
20:54:45 BUT NOT THIS AMENDMENT.
20:54:47 ON NO ACCOUNT SHOULD THIS
20:54:50 AMENDMENT BE APPROVED.
20:54:52 I IMPLORE YOU DO THE NEXT RIGHT
20:54:55 THING -- DENY THIS AMENDMENT.
20:54:56 THANK YOU.
20:55:03 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:55:04 JEFF COLEMAN.
20:55:05 I RESIDE AT FOUNTAIN BLUE DRIVE
20:55:08 IN THE DANA SHORES AREA.
20:55:09 I MET MY WIFE, MARGUERITE, ABOUT
20:55:12 TEN YEARS AGO.
20:55:12 SHE COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE
20:55:14 SHE'S ON THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
20:55:16 LIBRARY BOARD.
20:55:17 I PROMISE HER MEETINGS ARE NOT
20:55:19 GOING AS LATE AS YOURS ARE
20:55:21 TONIGHT.
20:55:21 SO I PRACTICE LAW IN CLEARWATER
20:55:24 FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS, AND I MET
20:55:26 HER AND SHE SINGS FOR THE
20:55:30 FERGUSON CHOIR OVER HERE AT
20:55:31 ST. ANDREWS.
20:55:32 WELL, I LIVE IN TAMPA AND I'M AN
20:55:35 EPISCOPALIAN NOW.
20:55:36 SO THAT IS THE SHORT STORY OF
20:55:39 IT.
20:55:39 I LOVE TAMPA.
20:55:40 MY FATHER WAS STATIONED AT
20:55:41 MacDILL BACK IN THE '60s.
20:55:43 AND WHEN I WAS SCOOPING UP
20:55:44 THINGS OFF DAVIS ISLANDS, I KNEW
20:55:48 THERE WERE THINGS I COULDN'T
20:55:49 EAT.
20:55:49 I KNEW THERE WERE THINGS THAT
20:55:51 WEREN'T GOING TO GO ON OUR GRILL
20:55:54 BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T EAT A LOT
20:55:56 OF IT BACK THEN.
20:55:57 WE REMEMBER, THOSE OF US THAT
20:55:58 WERE HERE, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE
20:55:59 IN THE '60s AND WE STARTED
20:56:01 CLEANING IT UP AND GETTING RID
20:56:03 OF DREDGE AND FILL WAS A BIG
20:56:04 PART OF THAT.
20:56:05 AND RESTORING THE AQUIFER AND
20:56:08 RESTORING THE WETLANDS WAS A BIG
20:56:11 PART OF THAT.
20:56:12 SO WE COME FORWARD NOW, AND I
20:56:15 DRIVE ON THE CAUSEWAY EVERY DAY
20:56:17 GETTING BACK TO MY OFFICE IN
20:56:18 CLEARWATER.
20:56:19 SO I BECAME INVOLVED ABOUT FIVE
20:56:21 YEARS AGO IN THE COURTNEY
20:56:22 CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY SCENIC BYWAY
20:56:24 ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
20:56:25 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
20:56:26 RECENTLY IN OUR EFFORTS TO CLOSE
20:56:27 THE GAP ON THAT NORTH END OF THE
20:56:29 CAUSEWAY WHERE WE HAD A LITTLE
20:56:31 GAP THAT WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE
20:56:34 THIS AREA.
20:56:34 I ALSO SPONSOR TWO MILES ON EACH
20:56:37 SIDE FOR STATE ROAD 60, THE
20:56:41 ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAM.
20:56:42 SO I'M VERY, VERY COMMITTED.
20:56:44 I DON'T SAY THIS FOR
20:56:45 BRAGGADOCIO.
20:56:46 RATHER, I SAY IF THE CITIZENS
20:56:47 HAVE TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR
20:56:49 COMMUNITY, YOU ALL UNDERSTAND
20:56:51 IT.
20:56:52 YOU EMBRACE THAT CONCEPT.
20:56:53 YOU'RE HERE GIVING BACK.
20:56:56 THE APPLICANT IN QUESTION HERE
20:56:58 PICKED UP THIS PROPERTY FOR A
20:57:00 SONG.
20:57:01 YOU'RE GOING TO REWARD HIS VEGAS
20:57:04 PLAY.
20:57:04 HIS GAMBLE IS GOING TO BACK
20:57:09 TREMENDOUS BENEFIT, AND LOOK AT
20:57:11 WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE.
20:57:12 YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THAT.
20:57:15 YOU COULD ARGUE, WELL, YOU'RE
20:57:17 TAKING AWAY MY ABILITY TO
20:57:18 DEVELOP MY LAND.
20:57:19 WELL, AS WE HEARD, IT'S WATER.
20:57:21 IT'S NOT LAND.
20:57:22 WE'RE NOT TAKING.
20:57:26 THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE
20:57:27 TAKING.
20:57:28 THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE TAKING
20:57:29 CRITICAL RIPARIAN SECTORS.
20:57:31 THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE TAKING
20:57:33 WATER QUALITY.
20:57:34 THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE
20:57:35 IMPOSING COSTS ON TAMPA BAY AS
20:57:37 WE ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS
20:57:42 GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE CHANGE IN
20:57:43 OUR AREAS DUE TO GLOBAL WARMING
20:57:45 AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
20:57:46 WE ASK THAT THIS COUNCIL LOOK AT
20:57:49 THE ISSUES AND GIVE.
20:57:50 GIVE TIME FOR THE CUT-THRU THAT
20:57:53 THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
20:57:55 REGULATIONS IS PUTTING IN THE
20:57:58 COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY.
20:57:58 THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE
20:58:00 AMOUNT OF OXYGEN SO MUCH IN OLD
20:58:02 TAMPA BAY, BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT
20:58:04 THAT CAUSEWAY IN, WE DIDN'T KNOW
20:58:06 WHAT THE EFFECTS, BUT IT'S GOING
20:58:09 TO BE CUT THROUGH AND WE'RE
20:58:10 ASKING THAT YOU GIVE ONE MORE
20:58:11 THING, AND THAT'S THE BOOT TO
20:58:14 THIS APPLICATION.
20:58:15 THANK YOU.
20:58:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
20:58:21 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:58:21 MY NAME IS DANIEL ROBERTS.
20:58:24 I RESIDE AT 1620 SURREY TRAIL,
20:58:28 WIMAUMA, FLORIDA, 33598.
20:58:30 I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO DISPEL
20:58:33 THE MYTH THAT THIS LITTLE BODY
20:58:35 OF WATER WAS ABIOTIC.
20:58:37 I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO DO THAT
20:58:40 NOW BECAUSE OF THE FOUR SPEAKERS
20:58:41 BEFORE ME.
20:58:42 I'M A RESEARCH SCIENTIST.
20:58:43 I SPENT MOST OF MY CAREER
20:58:47 WORKING AT THE FLORIDA FISH AND
20:58:48 WILDLIFE RESEARCH INSTITUTE OUT
20:58:49 OF ST. PETE.
20:58:49 I CURRENTLY AM EMPLOYED BY THE
20:58:52 MOTE MARINE LABORATORY IN
20:58:54 SARASOTA.
20:58:54 I'M NOT HERE REPRESENTING EITHER
20:58:58 ONE OF THOSE ENTITIES TONIGHT.
20:58:59 I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF AND
20:59:00 LIKE-MINDED STEWARDS OF TAMPA
20:59:02 BAY.
20:59:02 I'D LIKE TO JUST -- I HAD QUITE
20:59:06 A FEW THINGS TO SAY, BUT A LOT
20:59:09 OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
20:59:12 I'LL ADD A FEW SPECIES TO THE
20:59:14 LIST OF LIVING CRITTERS IN THIS
20:59:16 LAGOON.
20:59:16 I WAS THERE LAST MONDAY.
20:59:18 I SAW LARGE SCHOOLS OF
20:59:20 ANCHOVIES, BAY ANCHOVIES.
20:59:24 I SAW LARGE SCHOOLS OF FINGER
20:59:26 MULLET.
20:59:26 I SAW INDIVIDUAL GROUPS OF
20:59:34 PINFISH, AND IN AND AMONGST THE
20:59:36 OYSTERS ALONG THE SEAWALL
20:59:38 BULKHEAD.
20:59:39 I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE
20:59:41 THREE SPECIES ALONE FORM THE
20:59:47 BASIS OF THE PREDATORY FOOD
20:59:50 CHAIN FOR YOUNG OF THE YEAR
20:59:52 SNOOK, RED DRUM, TARPON, AND
20:59:55 SPOTTED SEA TROUT.
20:59:56 I SAW A VERY BEAUTIFUL ALGAL
21:00:02 BLOOM, AND BASED ON MY YEARS OF
21:00:07 EXPERIENCE IN TAMPA BAY, I KNOW
21:00:08 THAT IT WAS A COMPOSITE OF
21:00:11 UNICELLULAR SPECIES OF DIATOMS
21:00:15 AND GREEN ALGAE.
21:00:17 THOSE CRITTERS FORM THE BASIS OF
21:00:19 THE VEGETATIVE BASIS OF THE
21:00:22 MARINE FOOD WEB.
21:00:25 MY OVERALL IMPRESSION OF THIS
21:00:28 HABITAT WAS THAT IT WAS IN A
21:00:30 STATE OF RECOVERY, BUT IT WAS,
21:00:32 ALL IN ALL, VERY HEALTHY ON THE
21:00:34 DAY THAT I WAS THERE.
21:00:35 SO I WENT HOME AND I SPENT
21:00:38 SEVERAL HOURS INTERPRETING
21:00:40 DIGITAL SATELLITE IMAGERY.
21:00:42 AND I ESPECIALLY WAS INTERESTED
21:00:43 IN FOCUSING ON 1200 SQUARE
21:00:47 METERS OF MANGROVE, MOSTLY RED
21:00:49 MANGROVE.
21:00:50 AS WE ALL KNOW, MANGROVES
21:00:52 SUPPORT REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL
21:00:58 THE MAJOR TERRESTRIAL GROUPS AS
21:01:01 WELL AS THE MARINE GROUPS.
21:01:02 AND THERE IS A VERY HEALTHY
21:01:05 OYSTER POPULATION IN THE AREA,
21:01:08 WHICH IS CAPABLE OF TURNING OVER
21:01:10 THE ENTIRE WATER VOLUME OF THE
21:01:12 LAGOON ABOUT EVERY 12.8 DAYS.
21:01:15 THIS IS NOT JUST A BIOTIC DEAD
21:01:21 ZONE.
21:01:21 THIS IS A VERY HEALTHY, I WOULD
21:01:23 CALL IT NURSERY FOR JUVENILE
21:01:25 FISH AND CRUSTACEANS.
21:01:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
21:01:28 NEXT.
21:01:31 WE ARE ALTERNATING SIDES.
21:01:39 YOU GO NEXT.
21:01:56 >> I AM MARGIE WRIGHT.
21:01:57 I RESIDE AT 3621 DANFORTH PLACE
21:02:00 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
21:02:02 I HAVE LIVED ON ROCKY POINT FOR
21:02:04 SIX YEARS.
21:02:04 I AM A REGISTERED VOTER IN
21:02:06 PRECINCT 225.
21:02:06 I REQUEST THAT YOU MAINTAIN
21:02:08 CONSISTENCY WITH TAMPA'S
21:02:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY DENYING
21:02:10 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
21:02:12 AMENDMENT FROM WATER TO
21:02:13 RESIDENTIAL 35.
21:02:14 WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 2012, MY
21:02:16 INTENTION WAS TO LIVE IN THE
21:02:17 AREA FOR SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
21:02:20 NOW SIX YEARS LATER, I THINK
21:02:21 THIS IS MY HOME AND I CAN'T
21:02:24 IMAGINE LIVING ANYWHERE ELSE.
21:02:25 THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF OUR
21:02:27 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ABUNDANT
21:02:28 MARINE LIFE MAKE THIS LOCATION
21:02:30 UNIQUE.
21:02:31 IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE BENEFIT
21:02:33 FROM AN ENVIRONMENT THAT
21:02:34 NOURISHES COASTAL MANGROVES AND
21:02:35 SEA GRASSES AND GIVES SAFE
21:02:37 HARBOR TO DOLPHIN, MANATEE,
21:02:38 PELICAN, AND ROSEATE SPOONBILL.
21:02:42 WE EXPERIENCE THE DAILY WONDER
21:02:44 OF THESE LIVING ON ROCKY POINT.
21:02:46 FAMILIES FISH FROM THE SEAWALL,
21:02:47 AND KAYAKERS CAN PADDLE RIGHT
21:02:48 ALONGSIDE THE MARINE LIFE.
21:02:50 THESE EXPERIENCES ABSOLUTELY
21:02:52 ENRICH OUR LIVES EVERY SINGLE
21:02:53 DAY.
21:02:53 THIS NORTH SIDE OF ROCKY POINT
21:02:56 INCLUDES 926 HOMES, ALL IN THE
21:02:59 CITY OF TAMPA AT POST ROCKY
21:03:02 POINT WHERE I RESIDE.
21:03:03 FOUR HOTELS THAT ALLOW TOURISTS
21:03:05 TO SEE THE BEAUTY OF THE
21:03:06 WATERWAYS, POPULAR WATERFRONT
21:03:08 DINING THAT ALL TAMPA AREA
21:03:10 RESIDENTS APPRECIATE.
21:03:12 THREE MULTISTORY OFFICE
21:03:13 BUILDINGS BRINGING HUNDREDS OF
21:03:14 BAY AREA RESIDENTS EACH DAY UP
21:03:16 CLOSE AND PERSONAL WITH MARINE
21:03:18 LIFE AND SCARBOROUGH PARK THAT
21:03:21 OFFERS OPEN WATERFRONT FOR
21:03:22 EVERYONE'S BENEFIT.
21:03:23 ANY DISRUPTION TO THIS FRAGILE
21:03:26 ECOSYSTEM WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC.
21:03:28 THERE'S NO GOOD BASIS OR REASON
21:03:30 TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S
21:03:32 REQUEST.
21:03:32 WE RELY UPON YOU, OUR ELECTED
21:03:34 OFFICIALS, TO ENSURE THE
21:03:36 CONTINUED PRESERVATION OF THIS
21:03:38 IMPORTANT RESOURCE AND TO UPHOLD
21:03:41 THE GOAL, POLICIES AND ELEMENTS
21:03:42 OF OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE
21:03:44 PLAN.
21:03:44 I WOULD LIKE TO COPY OF THIS
21:03:45 LETTER TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED
21:03:47 AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD,
21:03:49 AND THANK YOU.
21:03:49 AGAIN, PLEASE VOTE NO TO THIS
21:03:51 AMENDMENT.
21:03:57 >> I HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
21:03:59 DONATED THEIR TIME TO ME.
21:04:01 >> MAY I HAVE THE FORM, PLEASE?
21:04:02 GEORGI STOYANICH, BEATRICE
21:04:19 VICTOR OLDES, THANK YOU.
21:04:21 AND MARTHA STOYANA.
21:04:24 THANK YOU.
21:04:24 THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
21:04:28 >> MY NAME IS STEVE OSIASON.
21:04:31 3927 VENETIAN IN DANA SHORES.
21:04:36 I BOUGHT MY HOUSE THERE ALMOST
21:04:36 30 YEARS AGO.
21:04:37 I WAS BORN IN TAMPA OVER 60
21:04:38 YEARS AGO.
21:04:39 MY MOTHER'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY
21:04:42 CAME TO TAMPA OVER A HUNDRED
21:04:43 YEARS AGO, AND MY FATHER, HIS
21:04:45 BROTHERS AND MY GRANDFATHER, THE
21:04:46 JOHNNY-COME-LATELIES OF MY
21:04:49 FAMILY, MOVED HERE IN THE 1940S.
21:04:51 I TELL YOU THESE THINGS SO YOU
21:04:52 UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH AND
21:04:54 COMMITMENT OF MY FAMILY AND MANY
21:04:55 OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE
21:04:57 HERE.
21:04:58 MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY HAVE SERVED
21:04:59 IN POLITICAL OFFICE, LOCALLY RAN
21:05:02 FOR POLITICAL OFFICE, AND SERVED
21:05:03 IN NUMEROUS CIVIC POSITIONS.
21:05:05 I MYSELF HAVE VOLUNTEERED THREE
21:05:06 TIMES AS CAMPAIGN TREASURER FOR
21:05:08 A THREE-TIME LOCAL COUNCIL
21:05:09 MEMBER.
21:05:10 MY SISTER AND TWO COUSINS HAVE
21:05:11 GRADUATED VALEDICTORIAN FROM
21:05:14 PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
21:05:15 ALLISON ROBERTS, WHO GAVE THE
21:05:16 MOST BEAUTIFUL ELOQUENT SPEECH,
21:05:19 IS ALSO A NATIVE HERE AND SHE
21:05:21 ALSO GRADUATED VALEDICTORIAN
21:05:25 FROM THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL.
21:05:27 MY FAMILY OWNS THE OLDEST
21:05:28 FURNITURE FACTORY IN FLORIDA.
21:05:29 THEY STARTED 70 YEARS AGO.
21:05:31 IT IS A MANUFACTURING FACILITY
21:05:32 THAT HAS EMPLOYED AS MANY AS A
21:05:33 HUNDRED PEOPLE.
21:05:34 IN 70 YEARS, THEY HAVE NEVER
21:05:35 LAID OFF ANYBODY.
21:05:36 NOR HAVE THEY RECEIVED ANY TAX
21:05:38 BENEFITS, LIKE A LOT OF NEW
21:05:40 BUSINESSES GET WHEN THEY COME TO
21:05:41 TAMPA.
21:05:41 THE FURNITURE IS VERY FLORIDA
21:05:44 LOOKING, SO IT IS SOLD UP THE
21:05:47 EAST COAST OF THE ATLANTIC
21:05:49 OCEAN, UP TO MAINE, THE
21:05:50 CARIBBEAN AND EUROPE.
21:05:51 ALL THE MONEY COMES RIGHT BACK
21:05:52 HERE INTO THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
21:05:54 I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU, AS I
21:05:58 DID ON MY BICYCLE, LOOKING LIKE
21:06:01 A FLUORESCENT YELLOW HIGHLIGHTER
21:06:03 FOR A REASON.
21:06:04 I WAS WEARING THE SAME CLOTHES
21:06:07 WHEN I WAS RIDING MY BIKE
21:06:08 RECENTLY, INCLUDING SHORTS,
21:06:10 SOCKS, AND SHOES THAT MATCHED
21:06:12 THE SAME COLOR.
21:06:13 LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS FROM
21:06:14 THIS PROPOSED SITE ON
21:06:16 MAY 30th, I WAS HIT BY A CAR
21:06:18 AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROCKY
21:06:19 POINT BOULEVARD AND COURTNEY
21:06:20 CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY.
21:06:20 I WAS RIDING ON THE BICYCLE PATH
21:06:24 THAT THIS GREAT CITY CREATED
21:06:26 THAT WAS ACTUALLY SEGREGATED BY
21:06:27 A GRASS MEDIAN FROM THE HIGHWAY.
21:06:30 A CAR ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A RIGHT
21:06:32 TURN ON RED FROM ROCKY POINT
21:06:35 BOULEVARD ONTO THE CAUSEWAY SAW
21:06:36 HIS OPENING IN THE CROWDED
21:06:38 TRAFFIC, AND QUICKLY CROSSED
21:06:40 WITHOUT NOTICING I WAS ON MY
21:06:43 BICYCLE ALREADY TWO-THIRDS OF
21:06:44 THE WAY THROUGH THE CROSSWALK.
21:06:45 HE NEVER SAW ME IN HIS ATTEMPT
21:06:48 TO GET ON THE CAUSEWAY.
21:06:49 AMONG MY INJURIES, I HAVE AN AC
21:06:51 LIGAMENT SEPARATION GRADE 3,
21:06:53 WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THREE
21:06:54 LIGAMENTS ATTACHING MY SHOULDER
21:06:57 BONE, MY COLLARBONE TO MY
21:06:59 SHOULDER ASSEMBLY HAVE BEEN
21:07:01 COMPLETELY SEVERED.
21:07:02 SURGERY HAS REMOVED ALL THE
21:07:03 REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE
21:07:04 LIGAMENTS TO MY MUSCLES AND
21:07:06 BONES AND ATTACHED DONOR
21:07:08 LIGAMENTS WITH PINS IN VARIOUS
21:07:10 SHOULDER BONES.
21:07:11 BY THE WAY, I'M RIGHT-HANDED.
21:07:13 I WAS TRAINING FOR MY 48th
21:07:15 TRIATHLON.
21:07:16 I'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 1984.
21:07:18 16 OF THESE HAVE BEEN AT THE
21:07:21 LOCAL TAMPA BAY TRIATHLON.
21:07:23 I EVEN RACED IN IT THIS VERY
21:07:26 APRIL.
21:07:26 I ALSO WAS FORTUNATE TO RACE IN
21:07:28 THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IRONMAN
21:07:30 TRIATHLON IN HAWAII 20 YEARS
21:07:32 AGO.
21:07:33 I HAVE BEEN SWIMMING
21:07:34 COMPETITIVELY SINCE I GREW UP
21:07:35 HERE.
21:07:35 I MAY NEVER DO THIS AGAIN AS I
21:07:39 DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THIS WITH
21:07:40 MY RIGHT ARM.
21:07:41 HOWEVER, ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, I
21:07:43 LOOK FORWARD TO SWIMMING IN VERY
21:07:45 SMALL CIRCLES.
21:07:46 NEEDLESS TO SAY, I AM NOT
21:07:48 THRILLED OF THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH
21:07:51 WOULD REQUIRE ALL TRAFFIC TO GO
21:07:53 THROUGH THIS VERY SAME
21:07:54 INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT IS THE
21:07:55 ONLY INTERSECTION IN AND OUT OF
21:07:57 THIS AREA.
21:07:58 I GREW UP ON DAVIS ISLANDS WHERE
21:08:06 TRUCKS WITH DDT FOG ROAMED THE
21:08:10 NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE PLAYED.
21:08:11 I WATCHED A NEARLY DEAD TAMPA
21:08:12 BAY ARISE IN THE YEARS TO COME
21:08:14 AND SLOWLY COME BACK TO PARTIAL
21:08:15 HEALTH TODAY.
21:08:16 I'M SICK OF DEVELOPMENT TAKING
21:08:20 PRIORITY OVER THE ENVIRONMENT.
21:08:21 I DON'T CARE WHAT THE
21:08:25 UNDERSTAFFED AND UNDERFUNDED EPA
21:08:28 HAS HAD TIME TO SAY.
21:08:30 I GUARANTEE THERE IS SEA LIFE
21:08:32 AND VEGETATION GROWING AT THE
21:08:33 BOTTOM OF THIS SPOT.
21:08:34 THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I
21:08:36 HAVE STOOD BEFORE YOU OPPOSING A
21:08:38 ZONING CHANGE.
21:08:39 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO, THE COMPANY
21:08:41 THAT BUILT ROCKY POINT POST
21:08:44 VILLAGE APARTMENTS PROPOSED HERE
21:08:45 TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM
21:08:46 SINGLE-FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY.
21:08:49 I LEARNED A BITTER LESSON ABOUT
21:08:51 LOCAL POLITICS THEN.
21:08:53 HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FROM DANA
21:08:55 SHORES, PELICAN ISLAND AND BAY
21:08:56 CREST CAME TO OPPOSE THIS.
21:08:58 THE PETITION WAS WITHDRAWN,
21:09:01 BARELY CHANGED AND RESUBMITTED
21:09:03 ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
21:09:04 ON THE LAST SUBMISSION DATE, WE
21:09:06 WERE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE
21:09:09 JOE REDNER HAVE A ZONING
21:09:11 PETITION AHEAD OF US.
21:09:12 OUR TURN CAME HALF AN HOUR AFTER
21:09:15 MIDNIGHT WHEN THERE WAS ONLY
21:09:16 THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE LEFT FROM
21:09:17 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:09:18 AND THAT ZONING CHANGE HAPPENED
21:09:22 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
21:09:23 I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THIS TYPE
21:09:25 OF BEHAVIOR DOES NOT HAPPEN
21:09:27 AGAIN WITH THIS PETITION.
21:09:30 IS IT THE DESIRE HERE TO
21:09:33 INCREASE YOUR TAX BASE?
21:09:34 I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT
21:09:36 JUST THIS WEEK THE SUPREME COURT
21:09:38 RULED IN THE WAY FAIR CASE OF
21:09:40 SOUTH DAKOTA.
21:09:41 FLORIDA AND TAMPA ARE NOW FREE
21:09:44 TO COLLECT SALES TAX FROM
21:09:46 NON-STATE RETAILERS ALL OVER THE
21:09:49 COUNTRY.
21:09:49 THAT'S A LOT MORE MONEY THAT'S
21:09:50 GOING TO BE COMING INTO THE
21:09:52 STATE.
21:09:52 THIS PETITION HAS UNIVERSAL
21:09:55 OPPOSITION FROM ALL THE ADJACENT
21:09:57 NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYBODY
21:10:01 EXCEPT THE PETITIONERS WHO I
21:10:03 BELIEVE IS FROM NEW YORK.
21:10:05 SO I ASK YOU, WHAT MATTERS MORE?
21:10:09 DO YOUR CONSTITUENTS MEAN SO
21:10:10 LITTLE TO YOU THAT POLITICAL
21:10:14 PULL AND THE PROFIT DESIRE OF AN
21:10:15 OUT-OF-STATE DEVELOPER OUTWEIGHS
21:10:18 THIS UNIVERSAL OPTION THAT YOU
21:10:21 SEE BEFORE YOU?
21:10:22 I HOPE YOUR VOTE WILL SHOW US
21:10:23 HOW MUCH YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT
21:10:25 THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY
21:10:26 DEDICATED AND COMMITTED TO THIS
21:10:28 COMMUNITY.
21:10:28 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
21:10:37 >> MY NAME IS ANN PAUL.
21:10:38 I WORK FOR AUDUBON FLORIDA,
21:10:41 COASTAL ISLAND SANCTUARIES.
21:10:45 I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE
21:10:47 AUDUBON POSITION ABOUT THIS
21:10:48 AMENDMENT.
21:10:48 AUDUBON FLORIDA STRONGLY OBJECTS
21:10:52 TO THIS PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE
21:10:53 PLAN AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD
21:10:55 ULTIMATELY RESULT, IF IT GOES
21:10:57 FORWARD, IN THE FILLING OF THREE
21:10:59 ACRES OF OPEN BAY NEAR ROCKY
21:11:02 POINT.
21:11:03 THIS KIND OF FILLING AS
21:11:09 CONTEMPLATED BY THIS AMENDMENT,
21:11:11 HAS NOT BEEN HAPPENING IN
21:11:12 FLORIDA FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.
21:11:13 AND THE DECISION THAT THE CITY
21:11:15 COUNCIL MUST MAKE RELATIVE TO
21:11:18 THIS PROJECT WILL -- THAT
21:11:23 ULTIMATELY CONTEMPLATES
21:11:24 DEVELOPMENT OF A PARCEL OF LAND
21:11:25 THAT IS CURRENTLY OPEN BAY,
21:11:28 WOULD REALLY BE CONTRARY TO WHAT
21:11:30 IS COMMON PRACTICE IN THE ENTIRE
21:11:34 STATE OF FLORIDA.
21:11:35 WE FEEL THAT BY APPROVING THIS
21:11:41 AMENDMENT, ESSENTIALLY THE CITY
21:11:42 WOULD ENDORSE THE FILLING OF
21:11:46 THIS OPEN PARCEL OF TAMPA BAY
21:11:51 AND IT WILL IMPLY THAT THE CITY
21:11:54 IS A PROPONENT OF THE PROJECT
21:11:57 THAT THEN WILL GO TO VARIOUS
21:12:00 AGENCIES.
21:12:01 WE DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT
21:12:05 YOU'RE ASKING THE AGENCIES TO
21:12:07 FIND A WAY TO STOP THE PROJECT
21:12:09 AFTER YOU'VE APPROVED THIS
21:12:11 AMENDMENT.
21:12:11 THAT'S KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE
21:12:13 STREET AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO
21:12:15 THEM.
21:12:15 YOU ARE THE LEADERS HERE.
21:12:18 YOU NEED TO MAKE THE STAND.
21:12:20 YOU NEED TO PROTECT THE COMMON
21:12:22 PRACTICE OF NOT ALLOWING FILLING
21:12:24 OF OPEN BAY WATERS OR OPEN
21:12:28 WATERS IN OUR AREA THAT WILL
21:12:33 LEAD TO A PRECEDENT.
21:12:35 THERE WILL BE A LOT OF OTHER
21:12:38 PROPOSALS THAT COME FORWARD, AND
21:12:39 YOU WON'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO
21:12:42 TELL THEM NO IF YOU TOLD THESE
21:12:44 PEOPLE YES.
21:12:45 SO PLEASE DENY APPROVAL OF THIS
21:12:48 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
21:12:49 THANK YOU.
21:12:58 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:12:59 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
21:13:00 MY NAME IS CATHERINE BRUGER
21:13:01 HAYSLIP.
21:13:04 I AM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING
21:13:05 REPRESENTING TAMPA BAY WATER
21:13:06 KEEPER WHICH IS A 501(C)(3)
21:13:09 NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO
21:13:10 PROTECTING AND IMPROVING THE
21:13:13 TAMPA BAY WATERSHED.
21:13:15 WE WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THE
21:13:15 STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS
21:13:17 PROPOSAL IS INCONSISTENT WITH
21:13:18 MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES
21:13:20 IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE
21:13:21 PLAN, AND WE URGE THE COUNCIL
21:13:23 NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
21:13:25 PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE.
21:13:26 NOT ONLY DOES THIS RUN COUNTER
21:13:28 TO THE CITY'S OWN COMPREHENSIVE
21:13:30 PLAN, IT RUNS COUNTER TO THE
21:13:32 OBJECTIVE OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT
21:13:34 AND OUR OWN GOOD JUDGMENT AS
21:13:36 STEWARDS, RESIDENTS, AND
21:13:38 REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF
21:13:38 TAMPA AND THE TAMPA BAY WATER
21:13:40 SHED.
21:13:40 FURTHERMORE, IF THIS PROPOSED
21:13:43 LAND USE CHANGE WERE APPROVED,
21:13:46 IT WOULD MOVE THIS REGION
21:13:52 BACKWARDS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN
21:13:53 THAT THE WORLD BANK RECENTLY
21:13:55 IDENTIFIED THE TAMPA BAY REGION
21:13:56 AS ONE OF THE TEN-MOST -- ONE OF
21:13:58 THE TEN METROPOLITAN AREAS IN
21:13:59 THE WORLD MOST AT RISK TO SEA
21:14:02 LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
21:14:03 SIMPLY PUT, THIS PROPOSAL IS THE
21:14:07 WRONG PATH FORWARD FOR THE CITY
21:14:08 OF TAMPA AND ITS RESIDENTS,
21:14:09 ECONOMY, AND ENVIRONMENT.
21:14:10 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME
21:14:12 AND CONSIDERATION.
21:14:32 >> HELLO, MR. CHAIRMAN AND CITY
21:14:34 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:14:34 THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR
21:14:36 REQUEST, 1710 THIS EVENING.
21:14:39 MY NAME IS STACY PRYOR.
21:14:42 3510 MARLON SPIKE DRIVE AT ROCKY
21:14:48 POINT.
21:14:48 ROCKY POINT CITIZENS ARE CITY
21:14:52 CITIZENS.
21:14:52 I AM A REGISTERED VOTER, AND I
21:14:55 VOTE.
21:14:55 I AM ORIGINALLY FROM CHICAGO AND
21:14:59 APPRECIATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
21:15:00 PROJECTS THAT OCCURRED SINCE I
21:15:02 MOVED TO THE AREA IN 2001.
21:15:04 I LOVE THE BEAUTIFICATION
21:15:05 EFFORTS ALONG THE RIVERWALK AND
21:15:06 CURTIS HIXON PARKWAY.
21:15:08 I CONSIDER TAMPA MY HOME.
21:15:09 I TRULY DO.
21:15:10 I HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS HERE,
21:15:12 WHICH I'VE BUILT AND IS VERY
21:15:14 SUCCESSFUL.
21:15:14 I'M VERY ENTRENCHED WITH
21:15:16 FUND-RAISING, CHARITABLE
21:15:17 ORGANIZATIONS.
21:15:19 AND I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.
21:15:20 I LOVE WHERE I LIVE.
21:15:22 I'M IN FULL ART.
21:15:24 WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO FLORIDA, I
21:15:27 IMMEDIATELY NOTICED THE UNIQUE
21:15:28 WILDLIFE TO THE SEA CREATURES
21:15:29 THAT YOU SIMPLY DON'T SEE
21:15:31 ANYWHERE ELSE.
21:15:31 THE MANATEE IS ONE OF THE MOST
21:15:34 UNIQUE MAMMALS TO OUR ECOSYSTEM.
21:15:36 I ASSURE YOU THAT YOU WILL NEVER
21:15:38 SEE MANATEES IN THEIR NATURAL
21:15:40 SETTING IN CHICAGO, EVER.
21:15:42 AS OF JANUARY 2018, THE
21:15:47 ESTIMATED COUNT OF MANATEES THAT
21:15:49 REMAIN IN FLORIDA IS 6,131.
21:15:52 THEY WERE DOWNGRADED LAST YEAR
21:15:55 FROM ENDANGERED TO THREATENED.
21:15:58 DOWNGRADED STATUS, OF COURSE,
21:16:02 CAME AS A DISAPPOINTMENT TO MANY
21:16:03 AND IS QUITE UPSETTING TO ME.
21:16:05 I WAS APPALLED WHEN I HEARD THAT
21:16:07 SOMEBODY DEEMED THIS WATERWAY AS
21:16:09 UNINHABITABLE WATERWAY.
21:16:11 I LIVE ON THIS LAGOON.
21:16:13 AND EVERY DAY I SEE THE
21:16:15 MANATEES, THE DOLPHINS, THE
21:16:16 WILDLIFE AROUND IT.
21:16:17 IT'S AMPLE, AND IT IS THRIVING.
21:16:20 THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE, ARE YOU
21:16:24 SEEING IT?
21:16:28 THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE SHOWS
21:16:29 THE MANATEE ZONE WE HAVE AS YOU
21:16:32 ENTER FROM THE BAY.
21:16:33 THE PORTION OF WATER IN QUESTION
21:16:37 IS RIGHT HERE.
21:16:38 THIS MORNING WHEN I GOT UP AND I
21:16:40 WALKED AROUND THIS PARKWAY, THE
21:16:43 DOLPHIN AND THE MANATEE WERE
21:16:45 SWIMMING RIGHT THERE.
21:16:46 YOU CANNOT TELL ME, AND WHOEVER
21:16:49 SAID THAT, OBVIOUSLY HAD NEVER
21:16:51 VISITED.
21:16:51 THEY WERE WELCOME TO COME OVER
21:16:52 AND HAVE COFFEE WITH ME.
21:16:54 I'LL GLADLY TAKE THEM FOR A
21:16:56 WALK.
21:16:56 THE GREATEST LONG-TERM THREAT TO
21:16:59 MANATEES INVOLVES THE LOSS OF
21:17:01 WARM WATER.
21:17:01 THERE IS ONE PIECE IN HERE THAT
21:17:07 I NEED TO READ.
21:17:08 COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY, THE
21:17:09 COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY IS A
21:17:11 TESTAMENT TO MODERN SOCIETY AND
21:17:14 NATURE AND EXISTING PRODUCTIVE
21:17:16 EQUALLY BENEFICIAL MANNER.
21:17:17 THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY
21:17:18 IS A VITAL ARTERY IN THE BODY
21:17:21 THAT IS TAMPA BAY.
21:17:22 PROVIDING A VITAL LINK TO THE
21:17:24 CITIES OF TAMPA AND CLEARWATER.
21:17:25 IT IS A PORTAL TO THE GLOBALLY
21:17:32 UNIQUE SYSTEM.
21:17:32 THE CAUSEWAY IS LITERALLY ALIVE
21:17:34 THROUGH --
21:17:36 >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
21:17:42 >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
21:17:43 MY NAME IS ROBERT SALTZMAN.
21:17:45 I LIVE AT 3926 VERSAILLES DRIVE,
21:17:49 ROCKY POINT, FLORIDA, IN DANA
21:17:51 SHORES.
21:17:51 I'VE LIVED THERE ABOUT 25 YEARS.
21:17:53 I'VE BEEN IN MORTGAGE LENDING
21:17:54 ABOUT 30 YEARS, AND ONE OF MY
21:17:58 NEIGHBORS AND CLIENTS CONTACTED
21:18:00 ME WITH HIS CONCERNS.
21:18:02 HEARD THE WORD PRECEDENT SPOKEN
21:18:04 TONIGHT, AND THIS ADDRESSES
21:18:05 THAT.
21:18:06 HE COULDN'T BE HERE.
21:18:07 HE IS A NEW FATHER, SO I ASKED
21:18:09 HIM TO PUT HIS WORDS ON PAPER
21:18:12 FOR ME.
21:18:12 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HIS CONCERNS
21:18:13 ARE.
21:18:13 AS GENERAL MANAGER AND CHIEF
21:18:15 STRATEGIST FOR SEVERAL
21:18:17 AUSTRALIAN AND EUROPEAN
21:18:18 INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS, I WOULD
21:18:19 LIKE TO VOICE MY CONCERN FOR THE
21:18:21 PROPOSED DREDGE AND FILL
21:18:23 REZONING DEVELOPMENT AT ROCKY
21:18:24 POINT.
21:18:24 AN ACTIVE INVESTORS IN REAL
21:18:27 ESTATE AND DEVELOPERS IN TAMPA
21:18:29 BAY, WE FEEL THE SITUATION TO BE
21:18:30 ALARMING.
21:18:31 WE INVEST IN TAMPA NOT ONLY DUE
21:18:33 TO THE EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITIES
21:18:34 THAT EXIST, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF
21:18:36 THE STABILITY OF THE AREA AND
21:18:38 THE CONCERN FOR WATERWAYS,
21:18:40 ESTUARIES, AND BODIES OF WATER
21:18:42 THAT SURROUND -- AND THE
21:18:44 SURROUNDING FOOTPRINT.
21:18:44 FOR THIS REASON, WE HAVE FOUND
21:18:46 TAMPA BAY TO BE A GREAT
21:18:47 INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.
21:18:48 THIS NEW POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
21:18:50 STRIKES CLOSE TO HOME FOR ME AS
21:18:52 WE OWN SEVERAL WATERFRONT
21:18:54 PROPERTIES, MANY LOCATED WITHIN
21:18:55 A MILE OR TWO OF THE PROPOSED
21:18:58 DREDGE AND FILL.
21:18:59 IF THE PRECEDENT IS SET FOR
21:19:02 DREDGING AND FILLING EXISTING
21:19:04 WATERWAYS, ALERT OUR INVESTOR
21:19:07 BASE OF THE CHANGE IN THE
21:19:08 STABILITY OF OUR ASSETS IN
21:19:09 RELATION TO WATERFRONT
21:19:10 INVESTMENT AND THIS WILL NO
21:19:11 DOUBT REDUCE THE INVESTMENT
21:19:13 CAPITAL THAT WE BRING INTO THE
21:19:14 TAMPA BAY AREA.
21:19:14 AS THE CHIEF STRATEGIST, I WILL
21:19:17 NEED TO HEDGE ALL MY WATERFRONT
21:19:18 INVESTMENTS ON THE PLANS THAT
21:19:19 THE WATER MAY NOT ALWAYS BE
21:19:20 THERE IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IN
21:19:22 WHICH CASE, THE LIKELIHOOD
21:19:24 FURTHER INVESTMENTS IN
21:19:26 WATERFRONT AREAS WOULD LIKELY BE
21:19:29 ALL BUT ENDED.
21:19:30 JAMES --
21:19:41 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:19:42 MY NAME IS DR. ELI ROSE.
21:19:44 I'M A RESIDENT OF DANA SHORES.
21:19:48 DURING THE FIRST TWO-THIRDS OF
21:19:50 THE 20th CENTURY, FLORIDA
21:19:53 DEVELOPERS USE DREDGING AND
21:19:55 FILLING TO CREATE MORE
21:19:56 WATERFRONT PROPERTY.
21:19:57 THIS PRACTICE WAS PROVEN TO
21:19:59 CAUSE SEVERE DEVASTATION OF OUR
21:20:02 ENVIRONMENT WITH REDUCTION OF
21:20:04 WATER QUALITY, LOSS OF SEA
21:20:06 GRASSES AND DECLINING FISH AND
21:20:08 WILDLIFE POPULATIONS.
21:20:09 BY THE END OF THE 1960s, THE
21:20:13 AMERICAN PUBLIC AND THE
21:20:14 GOVERNMENT BECAME MORE
21:20:15 ENVIRONMENTALLY AWARE.
21:20:16 IN 1970, THE EPA WAS
21:20:19 ESTABLISHED.
21:20:19 IN 1972, CONGRESS PASSED THE
21:20:22 FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL
21:20:23 ACT, REQUIRING WATER QUALITY
21:20:26 CERTIFICATION PRIOR TO ISSUING
21:20:28 PERMITS FOR DREDGE AND FILL.
21:20:30 ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND
21:20:33 ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE
21:20:34 AUDUBON SOCIETY, SIERRA CLUB,
21:20:36 AND NATURE CONSERVATORY
21:20:40 INCREASINGLY OPPOSE THE PRACTICE
21:20:42 OF DREDGING AND FILLING.
21:20:43 SEPTEMBER 2nd AND 3rd, 1975,
21:20:46 THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HELD
21:20:48 HEARINGS IN NAPLES, FLORIDA,
21:20:51 REGARDING THE PROS AND CONS OF
21:20:52 ISSUING PERMITS FOR DREDGE AND
21:20:54 FILL TO COMPLETE THE MARCO
21:20:55 ISLAND PROJECT.
21:20:57 THE FINDINGS WERE DELIBERATED
21:21:00 OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
21:21:01 FINALLY, ON APRIL 16th, 1976,
21:21:05 THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS
21:21:08 ISSUED ITS LANDMARK,
21:21:09 PRECEDENT-SETTING DECISION,
21:21:11 DENYING PERMITS FOR DREDGING AND
21:21:13 FILLING SOLELY BASED ON
21:21:15 ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
21:21:16 THUS, THE MORATORIUM ON DREDGING
21:21:20 AND FILLING WAS ESTABLISHED.
21:21:21 OVER THE ENSUING HALF CENTURY,
21:21:25 WITH THE HELP OF ORGANIZATIONS
21:21:26 SUCH AS TAMPA BAY WATCH, THE
21:21:29 ENVIRONMENT DEMONSTRATED GREAT
21:21:30 RECOVERY WITH IMPROVED WATER
21:21:33 QUALITY, RETURNING SEA GRASSES,
21:21:35 AND AN INCREASE IN FISH AND
21:21:37 WILDLIFE POPULATIONS.
21:21:39 TODAY, YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO
21:21:42 VOTE ON A DANGEROUS
21:21:44 PRECEDENT-SETTING AMENDMENT THAT
21:21:45 WOULD LEAD TO THE RETURN OF
21:21:48 DREDGING AND FILLING ALONG WITH
21:21:49 THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR
21:21:51 ENVIRONMENT BACK TO THE 1950s
21:21:53 AND '60s, AND PROBABLY WORSE.
21:21:57 YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE
21:22:00 MORAL IMPERATIVE TO PREVENT THIS
21:22:02 FROM HAPPENING NOW.
21:22:03 PLEASE DO NOT ABROGATE YOUR
21:22:07 RESPONSIBILITY IN THE HOPES THAT
21:22:08 THE EPA AND THE ARMY CORPS OF
21:22:10 ENGINEERS WILL STOP THIS ASSAULT
21:22:14 ON OUR ENVIRONMENT.
21:22:16 PLEASE VOTE NO.
21:22:17 THANK YOU.
21:22:23 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:22:24 MY NAME IS SANDRINE GUEZ, AND I
21:22:27 LIVE AT 2206 BAY CLUB CIRCLE IN
21:22:29 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
21:22:31 I'VE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR OVER 15
21:22:33 YEARS.
21:22:33 TODAY, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
21:22:34 TO PROTECT NATURE AND STOP A
21:22:37 DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
21:22:38 IT IS DANGEROUS PRECEDENT INDEED
21:22:41 TO FILL IN OUR BAY, A BAY WE
21:22:44 CHERISH AND LOVE, A BAY THAT
21:22:45 BRINGS BEAUTY AND VISITORS, A
21:22:48 BAY THAT SUPPORTS LIVELIHOODS, A
21:22:51 BAY ON WHICH WE HAVE AND
21:22:53 CONTINUE TO SPEND VALUABLE AND
21:22:54 FINITE MONEY TO PROTECT.
21:22:56 IN A TIME WHEN THIS NATION IS
21:22:58 LOSING NATURAL BEAUTY AT
21:23:00 ALARMING RATES, LET TAMPA SEND A
21:23:05 CLEAR MESSAGE, OUR WATERWAYS ARE
21:23:08 NATURE -- OUR BELOVED
21:23:11 ENVIRONMENT IS NOT FOR SALE TO
21:23:12 DEVELOPERS.
21:23:12 COUNCIL FOR THE DEVELOPERS HERE
21:23:17 TONIGHT SPOKE OF SMALL IN SIZE
21:23:19 AND THAT PROJECT WOULD BE LEAST
21:23:21 INTRUSIVE OF CATEGORIES, BUT
21:23:23 FILLING IN OUR BAY IS NO SMALL
21:23:25 PROJECT, AND IT IS, MOST
21:23:27 CERTAINLY, INTRUSIVE.
21:23:29 COUNSEL FOR THE DEVELOPERS ALSO
21:23:30 HAD TO GO BACK TO THE '70s TO
21:23:32 FIND THE LAST TIME SOMETHING
21:23:33 LIKE THIS WAS DONE.
21:23:35 NOTABLY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN ASKED
21:23:38 THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
21:23:40 A LOT OF VERY POOR ZONING
21:23:42 DECISIONS WERE MADE IN THE
21:23:43 '70s.
21:23:44 DO NOT TAKE US BACK TO A TIME IN
21:23:47 OUR HISTORY WHEN WE AS A NATION
21:23:49 DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE TRUE
21:23:51 IMPACT OF HUMANS ON THE
21:23:53 ENVIRONMENT.
21:23:54 ANOTHER MAN FOR THE DEVELOPERS
21:23:59 ALSO TRIED TO MAKE YOUR DECISION
21:24:02 VERY NARROW.
21:24:02 HE TRIED TO SAY, DON'T THINK
21:24:04 ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
21:24:05 WE DIDN'T EVEN BRING OUR
21:24:06 ENVIRONMENTALISTS HERE TONIGHT
21:24:07 BECAUSE YOU'RE JOB IS SO NARROW
21:24:09 AS TO LOOK AT THE MAPS AND THE
21:24:10 WORDS AND THAT'S IT.
21:24:12 BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS
21:24:14 THAT IT IS YOUR JOB TO THINK
21:24:16 ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, TO THINK
21:24:18 ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE,
21:24:19 TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THESE
21:24:22 THINGS THAT COME TOGETHER TO
21:24:23 MAKE THIS PLACE A BEAUTIFUL
21:24:25 PLACE TO LIVE.
21:24:25 IT IS A BRILLIANT STRATEGY TO
21:24:28 TRY TO SAY, MAKE IT SO NARROW.
21:24:30 THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DECIDE
21:24:31 ON, BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN GO TO
21:24:33 THE ENVIRONMENTALIST'S GROUP AND
21:24:35 SAY, DON'T WORRY WHAT THE
21:24:36 RESIDENTS SAY.
21:24:37 WE'RE JUST HERE TO TALK ABOUT
21:24:38 THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
21:24:39 IF THEY CHECK IT OFF ONE BY ONE,
21:24:41 IT CAN GET THROUGH, AND IT
21:24:43 SCARES ME THAT SOME OF YOU
21:24:44 HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT AREA,
21:24:45 BECAUSE I AM CONVINCED THAT IF
21:24:47 YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, YOU WOULD
21:24:48 ABSOLUTELY VOTE NO SO QUICKLY
21:24:50 BECAUSE THE MANATEES ARE THERE.
21:24:52 THE DOLPHINS ARE THERE.
21:24:54 IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
21:24:56 BEFORE YOU VOTE, I URGE YOU TO
21:24:58 CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON VISITORS,
21:24:59 ON RESIDENTS, ON VOTERS, ON
21:25:01 BUSINESSES, ON BUSINESS OWNERS,
21:25:03 ON MANATEES, ON WILDLIFE, ON
21:25:05 KAYAKERS, ON PADDLEBOARDERS, ON
21:25:08 ALL OF NATURE AND ON ALL
21:25:11 FLORIDIANS.
21:25:11 I ALSO URGE YOU TO TAKE NOTE OF
21:25:13 THE PASSIONATE PEOPLE WHO SHOWED
21:25:15 UP HERE TODAY, WHO PACKED THIS
21:25:16 ROOM, WHO CROWDED AROUND THE
21:25:17 ENTRYWAY, WHO SPILLED ONTO THE
21:25:19 STAIRWAYS OUTSIDE, WHO WAITED TO
21:25:20 HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.
21:25:22 WE CARE, TAMPA CARES, FLORIDA
21:25:24 CARES, PLEASE SHOW US THAT YOU
21:25:25 CARE, TOO, AND VOTE NO TO THIS
21:25:27 AMENDMENT.
21:25:28 THANK YOU.
21:25:31 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:25:32 MY NAME IS BRIAN ROBERTS.
21:25:33 I'M A BOAT CAPTAIN IN THE AREA.
21:25:36 WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE
21:25:40 MANATEES AND THE DOLPHINS.
21:25:41 YOU SEE THE LITTLE KIDS, THEY
21:25:43 GO, "OH, MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE
21:25:45 I'M THAT CLOSE."
21:25:46 THE ADULTS, THEY ARE PUSHING THE
21:25:47 KIDS OUT OF THE WAY TO LOOK AT
21:25:48 THE MANATEES AND DOLPHINS.
21:25:50 IT IS AN INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE
21:25:51 TO HAVE THESE ANIMALS IN A
21:25:53 HABITAT SO CLOSE TO TAMPA BAY.
21:25:55 OUR CITY IS UNIQUE IN THAT WAY.
21:25:56 3926 AMERICANA DRIVE.
21:26:00 JUST TO SEE THESE PEOPLE HAVE
21:26:04 THAT EXPERIENCE IS WHAT YOU'RE
21:26:06 GOING TO GIVE TONIGHT BY DENYING
21:26:07 THIS.
21:26:08 YOU'LL GIVE THE PEOPLE THE
21:26:09 ABILITY TO HAVE -- THESE ANIMALS
21:26:10 NEED HABITAT.
21:26:11 THEY NEED THE ESTUARY.
21:26:12 WE TALKED IN A LOT OF DETAIL
21:26:16 ABOUT THIS ONE AREA.
21:26:17 WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TALK A
21:26:19 LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY
21:26:21 HAVE HERE.
21:26:22 THERE IS A LITTLE THING CALLED
21:26:23 THE EPA.
21:26:24 THIS IS 1987 IT WAS ESTABLISHED.
21:26:26 1991, I BELIEVE IS WHEN -- LOOK
21:26:30 AT THAT -- TAMPA BAY WAS -- THE
21:26:34 ESTUARY PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED.
21:26:38 SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
21:26:39 ALL OF TAMPA BAY IS AN ESTUARY.
21:26:41 IT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.
21:26:42 WE'RE ON LINES -- SAN FRANCISCO
21:26:54 BAY.
21:26:54 THESE ARE AREAS THAT THE FEDERAL
21:26:56 GOVERNMENT SAID, HEY, THESE ARE
21:26:57 IMPORTANT ECOSYSTEMS.
21:26:58 THESE ARE IMPORTANT ESTUARIES.
21:27:00 YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THEM.
21:27:01 THERE ARE 28 OF THEM IN THE
21:27:02 COUNTRY, ALL HAVE THEIR OWN
21:27:04 LITTLE INDIVIDUAL PLANS TO KEEP
21:27:05 THE ESTUARIES, ESTUARIES.
21:27:07 ASK YOURSELF, HEY, HOW DO YOU
21:27:08 GET $20 MILLION TO BUILD A
21:27:10 WALKOVER BRIDGE?
21:27:11 REMEMBER THE BRIDGE ON THE
21:27:12 TRAIL?
21:27:13 THAT CAME FROM THE FEDS, RIGHT?
21:27:14 NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM.
21:27:18 $10 MILLION TO BUILD THE LITTLE
21:27:20 CUT-THRU OF THE BRIDGE THAT'S
21:27:22 GOING IN ABOUT A THOUSAND YARDS
21:27:23 AWAY, 2,000 MAYBE.
21:27:25 $10 MILLION.
21:27:27 GUESS HOW YOU GET THAT KIND OF
21:27:29 STUFF?
21:27:29 FEDERAL PROGRAMS.
21:27:30 EPA.
21:27:31 SO THIS AREA, TAMPA BAY, IS ONE
21:27:36 OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE
21:27:38 FEDERALLY ASSISTED BECAUSE IT'S
21:27:40 A FEDERAL ESTUARY.
21:27:42 THE NEXT THING IS, LET'S DRILL
21:27:44 DOWN A LITTLE CLOSER.
21:27:48 THERE IS A THING CALLED A SCENIC
21:27:49 HIGHWAY COLLECTION IN FLORIDA.
21:27:51 THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY
21:27:52 IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
21:27:53 THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY
21:27:55 IS ONE OF 26 SCENIC HIGHWAYS IN
21:27:58 FLORIDA.
21:27:59 THAT'S DOWN THERE WITH A1A, DOWN
21:28:03 THERE WITH FLORIDA KEYS SCENIC
21:28:06 HIGHWAY.
21:28:06 IF WE JUST LOOK ONE BLOCK AWAY
21:28:08 FROM THIS PROPERTY AND IF IT'S
21:28:11 WATER, I GUESS IT'S PART OF THE
21:28:13 ESTUARY SYSTEM, THE PROPERTY
21:28:14 SELF, WELL, THE WATER ITSELF, AS
21:28:16 FAR AS THE ESTUARY PROGRAM AND
21:28:18 THE OTHER AREAS, KNOWN AS A
21:28:20 SCENIC HIGHWAY.
21:28:21 KIND OF IMPORTANT STUFF YOU GUYS
21:28:24 NEED TO CONSIDER.
21:28:24 YOU GUYS ARE THE HIGH-LEVEL
21:28:25 PEOPLE.
21:28:26 YOU ARE THE STRATEGISTS.
21:28:27 YOU POINT THE DIRECTION.
21:28:28 THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
21:28:29 THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT ALREADY.
21:28:31 PEOPLE INVESTED TIME AND EFFORT
21:28:32 INTO THIS.
21:28:32 YOU GUYS NEED TO BACK IT UP.
21:28:34 PLEASE DENY THIS.
21:28:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: ON THIS SIDE.
21:28:38 THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BLUE SHIRT,
21:28:39 YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING?
21:28:41 NO, NOT YOU.
21:28:43 THE ONE BEHIND.
21:28:44 YOU WILL BE THE LAST ONE ON THIS
21:28:47 SIDE.
21:28:48 WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS SIDE?
21:28:49 HAVE YOU SPOKEN YET?
21:28:51 SO WE HAVE THREE ON THIS SIDE.
21:28:59 ON THIS SIDE, THREE REMAINING IS
21:29:12 THIS WHAT I'M HEARING?
21:29:13 ON THIS SIDE, THERE ARE TWO
21:29:15 REMAINING.
21:29:16 THE GENTLEMAN JUST WALKED UP,
21:29:23 YOU'LL BE THE LAST ONE ON THIS
21:29:24 SIDE.
21:29:24 THE LADY WHO STOOD UP IN BLUE,
21:29:34 YOU'LL BE THE LAST ON THIS SIDE.
21:29:35 ALL RIGHT.
21:29:35 LET'S GO.
21:29:36 >> HI, GOOD EVENING.
21:29:37 MY NAME IS GAIL FABREGA.
21:29:40 I AM A FOURTH GENERATION TAMPAN.
21:29:42 I LIVE AT 7307 PELICAN ISLAND
21:29:45 DRIVE.
21:29:46 AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE
21:29:47 PELICAN ISLAND PROPERTY OWNERS
21:29:50 ASSOCIATION.
21:29:51 MY HUSBAND IS THE PRESIDENT OF
21:29:52 THE ASSOCIATION, BUT HE'S OUT OF
21:29:54 THE COUNTRY, SO HE ASKED ME TO
21:29:58 COME AND REPRESENT OUR
21:29:59 NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:29:59 WE'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME 23
21:30:01 YEARS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO
21:30:02 REPEAT THINGS THAT EVERYBODY
21:30:03 ELSE HAS SAID.
21:30:04 THE ONE THING THAT HAS NOT BEEN
21:30:06 EXPLAINED CLEARLY IS WE HAVE A
21:30:08 BOAT, AND WE GO OUT ALL THE TIME
21:30:11 IN OUR BOAT.
21:30:12 THIS ONE LITTLE BASIN AREA HAS A
21:30:14 VERY NARROW ENTRANCE.
21:30:17 AND RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT
21:30:18 ENTRANCE IS THE CHANNEL FOR THE
21:30:21 BOATS THAT GO IN AND OUT.
21:30:23 ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE PAM
21:30:28 CALLAHAN PRESERVE, WHICH
21:30:29 SOMETIMES THE TIDE IS LOW.
21:30:31 SO WHEN THE MANATEES ARE COMING
21:30:33 IN AND OUT OF THIS AREA, AND
21:30:34 THERE ARE BOATS GOING BY THAT
21:30:36 CHANNEL, IT IS A NATURAL PLACE
21:30:39 FOR THEM TO PULL INTO TO BE
21:30:42 SAFE, BECAUSE BOATS DO NOT GO IN
21:30:44 THIS AREA, BECAUSE THERE'S NO
21:30:45 PLACE TO GO.
21:30:46 WHENEVER I HAVE PEOPLE VISITING
21:30:50 ME OUT OF TOWN AND THEY WANT TO
21:30:51 SEE MANATEES, THAT'S RIGHT WHERE
21:30:54 I GO.
21:30:54 VERY FREQUENTLY WE SEE BABIES
21:30:57 AND SEE THE MOTHERS NURSING THE
21:31:01 BABIES.
21:31:01 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BEHAVIOR
21:31:02 IS, BUT SOMETIMES THE MOTHER
21:31:04 LEAVES THE BABY IN THIS ONE
21:31:05 LITTLE AREA WHILE THEY GO
21:31:06 FORAGING FOR FOOD AND THEN THEY
21:31:08 COME BACK AND PICK THEM UP.
21:31:11 ALMOST ALWAYS, IF I WANT TO SEE
21:31:13 MANATEES, THAT'S WHERE I GO, IN
21:31:14 THAT ONE LITTLE BASIN.
21:31:15 SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL VOTE
21:31:17 NO.
21:31:18 THANK YOU.
21:31:28 >> MY NAME IS PAMELA ADKINS.
21:31:32 I RESIDE AT 3938 VENETIAN WAY IN
21:31:36 TAMPA.
21:31:36 MY FAMILY, MYSELF INCLUDED, HAVE
21:31:38 BEEN RESIDENTS OF THE ROCKY
21:31:39 POINT AREA FOR 46 YEARS.
21:31:42 WE REQUEST THAT YOU MAINTAIN
21:31:45 CONSISTENCY WITH TAMPA'S
21:31:46 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY DENYING
21:31:49 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
21:31:51 AMENDMENT FROM WATER TO
21:31:52 RESIDENTIAL 35.
21:31:53 NOW WITH PERMISSION FROM MARY
21:31:57 LOU BAILEY, TAMPA RESIDENT AND
21:31:58 BOARD CHAIR OF ZOO TAMPA AT
21:32:01 LOWRY PARK, I'M READING EXCERPTS
21:32:04 FROM HER LETTER REGARDING THE
21:32:06 PROPOSED FILL PROJECT.
21:32:08 I'M WRITING THIS LETTER TO YOU
21:32:09 TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE
21:32:11 ROCKY POINT LAND USE MATTER.
21:32:12 THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO OPPOSE
21:32:17 THIS PROJECT, BUT THE ONE I'M
21:32:19 MOST FOCUSED ON IS IN PROTECTION
21:32:22 OF MANATEES.
21:32:22 THIS PROJECT WOULD INFILL A
21:32:24 DESIGNATED MANATEE PROTECTION
21:32:26 ZONE.
21:32:26 THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN CONFIRMED
21:32:29 BY FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE TO
21:32:30 BE PROTECTED BY THE MANATEE
21:32:34 SANCTUARY ACT IN FLORIDA
21:32:36 STATUTE.
21:32:36 NEW TAMPA AT LOWRY PARK IS THE
21:32:38 PRIMARY CRITICAL CARE FACILITY
21:32:40 FOR INJURED MANATEES ON BEHALF
21:32:42 OF THE STATE.
21:32:42 I HAVE LONG BEEN A BENEFACTOR OF
21:32:45 THE WORK THE ZOO DOES ON BEHALF
21:32:47 OF ENDANGERED AND THREATENED
21:32:49 SPECIES.
21:32:50 MOST SPECIFICALLY THE MANATEE.
21:32:52 SINCE 1991, OUR ZOO HAS SAVED
21:32:56 420 MANATEES AND RETURNED THEM
21:32:58 TO THE WILD.
21:32:58 BUT SADLY, ANOTHER 15% WERE PAST
21:33:02 SAVING AND IT COSTS ROUGHLY
21:33:06 $1 MILLION PER YEAR TO OPERATE
21:33:07 THE ZOO'S MANATEE CRITICAL CARE
21:33:09 FACILITY.
21:33:09 ALTHOUGH MANATEES ARE PROTECTED
21:33:12 BY STATE MANDATE, THE STATE
21:33:14 SUBSIDIZES LESS THAN 40% OF
21:33:16 THESE COSTS, LEAVING THE REST TO
21:33:18 BE PAID FROM EARNED REVENUE AND
21:33:21 PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS.
21:33:21 PLEASE DO NOT MAKE OUR PATIENT
21:33:26 POPULATION EVEN HIGHER BY
21:33:28 DESTROYING THIS ACTIVE MANATEE
21:33:31 SANCTUARY.
21:33:32 WE ARE ALSO AVID BOATERS AND WE
21:33:34 ADORE SEEING MANATEES IN OUR
21:33:36 BAYS AND RIVERS.
21:33:37 SADLY, MANY BOATERS DO NOT TAKE
21:33:39 THE CARE THEY SHOULD WITH THESE
21:33:41 AWESOME CREATURES.
21:33:42 THESE SANCTUARY ZONES ARE
21:33:44 LABELED AND CRITICAL TO PROVIDE
21:33:46 A SAFE HAVEN FROM SPEEDING BOATS
21:33:48 AS WELL AS COLD WATER.
21:33:49 VOTE NO.
21:33:50 PLEASE.
21:33:50 IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR
21:33:52 THIS THREATENED SPECIES THAT IS
21:33:54 PROTECTED BY FLORIDA LAW.
21:33:57 MARY LOU BAILEY.
21:33:58 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
21:33:59 DESTROYING AN ACTIVE MANATEE
21:34:02 SANCTUARY IS GROSSLY
21:34:03 INCONSISTENT WITH TAMPA'S
21:34:04 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
21:34:05 AGAIN, PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE MAP
21:34:08 AMENDMENT.
21:34:08 THANK YOU.
21:34:14 >> MY NAME IS KURT THORESON.
21:34:16 BS IN BIOLOGY AND TEACH BIOLOGY
21:34:19 AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
21:34:20 ALSO THE ECOLOGY CLUB SPONSOR.
21:34:24 MY STUDENTS, ALONG WITH MYSELF
21:34:26 ARE ADVOCATES FOR OUR LOCAL
21:34:28 ENVIRONMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF
21:34:28 TAMPA AND THE GREATER TAMPA BAY
21:34:30 AREA.
21:34:30 THE ECOLOGY CLUB OF PLANT HIGH
21:34:32 SCHOOL PARTICIPATED IN NUMEROUS
21:34:35 ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUPS
21:34:36 VOLUNTARILY ACROSS THE CITY AND
21:34:37 AREAS SUCH AS PICNIC ISLAND,
21:34:39 BALLAST POINT, CYPRESS POINT
21:34:40 PARK, DAVIS ISLANDS AND HARBOUR
21:34:42 ISLAND, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
21:34:43 NOW, IMAGINE 50 STUDENTS GETTING
21:34:46 UP AT 8 A.M. ALTRUISTICALLY ON A
21:34:49 SUNDAY MORNING AFTER GASPARILLA
21:34:50 TO DO A MAJOR CLEANUP.
21:34:52 NOT EASY, BUT THEY DO IT ON
21:34:53 THEIR OWN FOR THE MAIN GOAL OF
21:34:54 MAKING OUR ENVIRONMENT BETTER.
21:34:55 AND PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT
21:34:57 FROM -- YEAH, PROTECTING OUR
21:34:59 ENVIRONMENT AND MARINE LIFE FROM
21:35:00 ANY GARBAGE THAT MAY SLIP INTO
21:35:01 THE BAY.
21:35:02 EVERY OTHER EVENING, I GO FOR A
21:35:06 RUN ON BAYSHORE, AND -- A
21:35:08 40-MINUTE RUN GENERALLY TURNS TO
21:35:10 A 90-MINUTE ADVENTURE BECAUSE I
21:35:12 STOP AND PICK UP AS MUCH TIDAL
21:35:14 DEBRIS AS I POSSIBLY AGAIN ALONG
21:35:16 THE LINEAR PARK.
21:35:17 SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT.
21:35:18 THANKS TO COOPERATION FROM THE
21:35:19 CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND REC,
21:35:21 MORE GARBAGE CANS ARE GOING TO
21:35:23 BE PLACED ALONG BAYSHORE.
21:35:25 WELL, THE PROPOSED DREDGING AND
21:35:26 DESTRUCTION, AND IT IS WHAT IT
21:35:27 IS, A DESTRUCTION OF THE
21:35:29 ENVIRONMENT AT ROCKY POINT IS A
21:35:30 HUMAN IMPACT THAT CANNOT BE
21:35:32 PICKED UP.
21:35:33 IT CANNOT BE UNDONE.
21:35:35 MARINE MAMMALS, I.E., DOLPHINS,
21:35:37 MANATEES, FREQUENT THIS AREA,
21:35:39 AND ALSO SERVES AS A RETREAT
21:35:41 FROM HARMFUL BOATING TRAFFIC IN
21:35:43 THE BAY.
21:35:44 EVERY MANATEE I'M SURE EVERYONE
21:35:46 HAS SEEN TODAY HAS A COUPLE OF
21:35:48 SCARS ON IT.
21:35:49 THIS SANCTUARY HELPS PROTECT
21:35:51 THEM FROM THAT.
21:35:52 ON THE NATIONAL SCALE, THE EPA
21:35:54 TODAY GENERALLY STANDS FOR
21:35:56 ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION AGENCY.
21:35:57 MAKE NO MISTAKE, OUR ENVIRONMENT
21:35:59 IS UNDER ATTACK.
21:36:00 IT'S OFTEN DISCUSSED --
21:36:05 ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ARE OFTEN
21:36:07 DISCUSSED IN MY CLASSROOM.
21:36:09 LATELY, STORIES HAVE LEFT US
21:36:12 SHAKING OUR HEADS IN DISGUST
21:36:14 JUST FROM ALL THE HAPPENINGS
21:36:15 GOING ON.
21:36:16 CLOSER TO HOME, THE STATE OF
21:36:17 FLORIDA HAS UNFORTUNATELY BEEN
21:36:18 IMPACTED BY HUMAN-GENERATED
21:36:20 DISASTERS, WHETHER THEY BE
21:36:21 EUTROPHICATION IN THE OKEECHOBEE
21:36:24 WATERWAYS IN STUART AND
21:36:27 HOLLYWOOD, WHICH IS CAUSING
21:36:29 TREMENDOUS AND DEADLY ALGAL
21:36:32 BLOOMS, SEWAGE DUMPS IN
21:36:34 ST. PETE, AND THE RADIOACTIVE
21:36:34 WATER LEAKS INTO THE AQUIFER BY
21:36:34 MOSAIC IN POLK COUNTY.
21:36:36 MY HOPE FOR THE NATIVE AND
21:36:38 PROTECTED SPECIES OF TAMPA BAY
21:36:39 IS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL SET A
21:36:42 PRECEDENT -- ENVIRONMENT A GREAT
21:36:46 RESOURCE AND GIVE OUR FUTURE
21:36:47 GENERATIONS, WHO I WORK WITH ON
21:36:48 A DAILY BASIS, AN OPPORTUNITY TO
21:36:50 SMILE REGARDING ACTION ON THE
21:36:51 ENVIRONMENT AT HOME.
21:36:52 THANK YOU.
21:37:04 >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE
21:37:05 COUNCIL.
21:37:05 MY NAME IS PAUL RYCHECK.
21:37:08 I LIVE AT 3586 -- SPIKE DRIVE.
21:37:12 I AM A 17-YEAR RESIDENT OF POST
21:37:17 ROCKY POINT.
21:37:18 I'VE LIVED ON THE ISLAND FOR 17
21:37:20 YEARS.
21:37:20 YES, I KNOW I COULD HAVE BOUGHT
21:37:22 A HOUSE WITH ALL THAT RENT
21:37:24 MONEY.
21:37:24 I FREQUENTLY WITNESSED MANATEES
21:37:27 AND EVEN THEIR CALVES AND
21:37:31 ENDANGERED WATERFOWL IN THE
21:37:33 PROPOSED LANDFILL AREA.
21:37:34 DESTROYING THIS FRAGILE HABITAT
21:37:37 IS INCONSISTENT WITH TAMPA'S
21:37:39 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
21:37:41 TOWNHOMES WOULD BLOCK VIEWS AND
21:37:43 FISHING FROM SCARBOROUGH PARK.
21:37:46 INCREASED TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND
21:37:49 COMPLICATE HURRICANE
21:37:50 EVACUATIONS.
21:37:50 FINALLY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE
21:37:52 DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THIS
21:37:53 REZONING WOULD SET FOR OTHER
21:37:55 COMPLETELY SUBMERGED PARCELS.
21:37:58 AS A VOTER IN EVERY ELECTION
21:37:59 SINCE I MOVED TO FLORIDA, I'M
21:38:02 ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE
21:38:04 REZONING REQUEST.
21:38:05 THANK YOU.
21:38:15 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
21:38:17 I KNOW YOU GOT TO BE TIRED BY
21:38:19 NOW.
21:38:19 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:38:20 A COUPLE OF YOU LOOK HUNGRY.
21:38:25 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:38:26 YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE A
21:38:34 BUNCH OF PAPERS IN MY HAND.
21:38:36 I DON'T HAVE A BOOK.
21:38:37 I DON'T HAVE SLIDES.
21:38:38 AND I WASN'T GOING TO SAY
21:38:40 ANYTHING.
21:38:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: JUST GIVE US
21:38:42 YOUR NAME.
21:38:43 >> FRANK MONGOVI.
21:38:45 I LIVE AT 7011 PELICAN ISLAND
21:38:47 DRIVE.
21:38:48 WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND OR ACROSS
21:38:52 THE CANAL FROM A PIECE OF
21:38:56 PROPERTY THAT WE AS SHRINERS
21:38:58 SOLD RECENTLY.
21:39:03 WHERE A DEVELOPER CAME IN TO
21:39:05 DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND BUILD
21:39:10 TOWNHOMES AND HIGH-END HOMES IS
21:39:13 WHAT THEY TOLD US.
21:39:15 I WAS AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT
21:39:16 NONETHELESS IT SOLD, AND THERE
21:39:18 THEY ARE.
21:39:18 WELL, THEY STARTED THEIR
21:39:23 PREPARATIONS.
21:39:23 THEY STARTED THEIR BREAKING
21:39:26 GROUND AND SO FORTH.
21:39:27 AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT
21:39:30 THEY DID WAS TEAR UP
21:39:37 HUNDRED-YEAR OAK TREES THAT WERE
21:39:38 GROWING THERE AND REMOVE THEM.
21:39:39 THE NEXT THING THEY DID WAS COME
21:39:42 ALONG AND TAKE OUT THE PINE
21:39:44 TREES THAT WERE ON ONE SIDE, THE
21:39:48 SIDE FACING MY PROPERTY AND TORE
21:39:54 THOSE OUT ALONG WITH SOME
21:39:55 MANGROVES THAT WERE THERE.
21:40:02 I USED TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND
21:40:07 WATCH THE SEA LIFE AND WATCH THE
21:40:12 BIRDS THAT WERE LIVING IN THOSE
21:40:14 TREES, NESTING IN THOSE TREES,
21:40:16 FEED THE DUCKS THAT CAME OUT
21:40:19 FROM THERE OVER TO OUR DOCK AND
21:40:23 FEED THEM.
21:40:23 WELL, THIS HAS BEEN NOW, I
21:40:29 GUESS, SIX MONTHS SINCE THEY
21:40:31 STARTED THEIR PROJECT.
21:40:32 I CAN TELL YOU NOW, I GO OUT
21:40:35 THERE IN THE MORNING.
21:40:37 I SIT THERE AT THE BAR AND DRINK
21:40:39 MY COFFEE -- IT'S A FOOD BAR.
21:40:42 DRINK MY COFFEE AND WATCH, BUT I
21:40:50 CAN'T SEE THE BIRDS THERE ANY
21:40:53 LONGER.
21:40:53 THEY HAVE DISAPPEARED.
21:40:54 I CAN'T SEE THE SEA LIFE THAT
21:40:59 WAS THERE BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S
21:41:01 NOT THERE.
21:41:01 RECENTLY, THERE WAS A MAMA DUCK
21:41:06 AND HER BABY COME ACROSS TO TRY
21:41:09 TO FIND SOMETHING TO EAT, AND
21:41:11 YOU'D HAVE THUNK THEY HADN'T
21:41:13 EATEN IN SIX MONTHS THE WAY THEY
21:41:15 ATTACKED IT.
21:41:16 BUT THEN THEY DISAPPEARED, TOO.
21:41:18 SO IF YOU DON'T PROTECT THE
21:41:24 ENVIRONMENT, WHO WILL?
21:41:26 SO I ASK YOU TO VOTE THIS DOWN.
21:41:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
21:41:34 YOUR TURN.
21:41:35 LAST SPEAKER.
21:41:38 >> GOOD EVENING. AREN'T YOU
21:41:41 TIRED OF US?
21:41:41 LYNETTE PEEL, 4621 BAY CREST
21:41:45 DRIVE.
21:41:46 HAVE YOU SEEN THE SHADES OF
21:41:48 BLUE?
21:41:48 RIGHT.
21:41:50 THAT'S WHAT OUR WATERWAYS ARE
21:41:58 ABOUT.
21:41:59 I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE
21:42:00 ENTERTAINING THIS PROJECT.
21:42:01 APART FROM THE IDEA OF GETTING
21:42:04 RID OF ALL OUR WILDLIFE, WHICH
21:42:05 IS ALSO A SOURCE OF INCOME BOTH
21:42:08 FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, HOW
21:42:11 ARE THESE AGENCIES GOING TO
21:42:13 MANAGE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
21:42:14 WE ALREADY HAVE THAT'S MESSED
21:42:15 UP, RIGHT?
21:42:16 OKAY.
21:42:18 OUR SYSTEM OF TRANSPORTATION IS
21:42:22 ALSO IN SHAMBLES.
21:42:22 NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE COUNTY
21:42:24 HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO IMPROVE
21:42:25 OUR ROADWAYS WITHOUT INCREASING
21:42:27 OUR TAXES.
21:42:28 I CAN TELL YOU, ALL RESIDENTS
21:42:36 PAY TAXES.
21:42:37 I DEFINITELY VOTE WITH THE
21:42:39 ESTEEMED MAYOR MR. BUCKHORN,
21:42:40 WITH HIS VOTE, HE WANTS TO VOTE
21:42:42 NO AGAINST IT.
21:42:44 PERSONALLY, I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO
21:42:50 ON THIS PROJECT, BUT YOU PEOPLE
21:42:52 HAVE TO MAKE UP YOUR MINDS,
21:42:54 RIGHT?
21:42:54 LIVING IN BAY CREST ON A CANAL
21:42:58 WILL DEFINITELY IMPEDE SOONER OR
21:43:02 LATER.
21:43:02 I WANT TO THANK ALLISON ROBERTS
21:43:04 FOR GETTING THIS ALL GOING.
21:43:06 I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
21:43:08 YOUR TIME, AND I APPRECIATE IT
21:43:10 VERY MUCH.
21:43:10 THANK YOU.
21:43:10 GOD BLESS.
21:43:11 YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
21:43:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: PETITIONER?
21:43:17 DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
21:43:31 SHE WAS THE LAST SPEAKER.
21:43:49 >> MICHAEL HORNER AGAIN, FOR THE
21:43:50 RECORD.
21:43:50 FIVE MINUTES IS NOT MUCH TIME TO
21:43:54 REBUT AN HOUR AND A HALF OF
21:43:56 COMMENTS.
21:43:56 WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
21:43:57 YOU'VE BEEN MOST PATIENT.
21:43:59 ALL OF THE PUBLIC RECORD
21:44:00 DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN FILED.
21:44:01 WE THINK WE MET OUR BURDEN.
21:44:03 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
21:44:04 HAS BEEN FILED.
21:44:05 I FIND IT MOST INTERESTING THAT
21:44:06 THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED
21:44:08 TO THE FILLING OF OUR
21:44:09 NON-NAVIGABLE, SUBMERGED
21:44:13 NON-SOVEREIGN LANDS ARE THE
21:44:14 RESIDENTS OF THE NON-NAVIGABLE
21:44:19 SAME LANDS THAT WERE FILLED FOR
21:44:20 THE ROCKY POINT APARTMENTS.
21:44:22 I CAN ASSURE YOU NO DOLPHINS
21:44:23 WERE KILLED OR MANATEES KILLED
21:44:27 DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT
21:44:28 WONDERFUL PROJECT THAT IS NEXT
21:44:29 TO US.
21:44:30 330 APARTMENTS, VERSUS OUR
21:44:32 PROPOSED 16.
21:44:34 COUNCIL, BACK TO THE CITY OF
21:44:36 TAMPA'S ASSERTIONS ON THE
21:44:39 INAPPROPRIATENESS OF THE CHAPTER
21:44:41 27, CHAPTER 43, THE CARRYOVER OF
21:44:44 THE PROHIBITION, COASTAL HIGH
21:44:50 HAZARD, THIS IS AN E-MAIL WE
21:44:52 RECEIVED ON MAY 2nd FROM THE
21:44:55 CITY OF TAMPA PLANNING STAFF.
21:44:57 GOOD MORNING, DAVID.
21:44:58 WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE
21:44:59 INFORMATION SUBMITTED FOR LEGAL
21:45:00 DEPARTMENT AND STAFF REVIEW AND
21:45:02 DETERMINED THAT THE CITY STAFF
21:45:04 REPORT RECOMMENDATION CAN BE
21:45:06 AMENDED ONLY IF YOU'RE IN
21:45:08 AGREEMENT AND COMMIT TO DO THE
21:45:09 FOLLOWING: ONE, APPLY FOR A
21:45:12 REZONING WE ARE PROPOSING,
21:45:14 REZONING TO THE RM-16 ZONING
21:45:16 DISTRICT.
21:45:16 AND, TWO, AMEND THE CURRENT
21:45:18 FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT
21:45:19 APPLICATION TO RES-20.
21:45:21 THE RM-16 ZONING CATEGORY WILL
21:45:23 ALLOW YOU TO DEVELOP A NUMBER OF
21:45:24 UNITS PROPOSED.
21:45:25 PLEASE NOTE IF YOU AGREE TO THE
21:45:27 REZONING, REZONING APPLICATION
21:45:28 MUST BE FILED BY THE PC DATE.
21:45:29 ONCE THIS IS CONFIRMED, WE WILL
21:45:31 THEN AMEND OUR REPORT.
21:45:32 WE'LL FILE THE HARD COPY IN THE
21:45:34 RECORD.
21:45:35 THAT SHOWS THEY SUPPORTED
21:45:36 ATTACHED MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME
21:45:38 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY FOR 16
21:45:40 UNITS.
21:45:40 THEY JUST WANTED A DIFFERENT
21:45:43 CATEGORY.
21:45:43 COULDN'T MEET THE HEIGHT 35 FEET
21:45:47 AND THE -- INCONSISTENT WITH
21:45:51 RM-24.
21:45:52 MR. DICKEY WILL COMPLETE THE
21:45:53 REBUTTAL.
21:45:54 THANK YOU.
21:45:56 >> THANK YOU.
21:45:57 DAVID DICKEY.
21:45:57 I'M ACTUALLY ONE OF THE OWNERS
21:45:59 OF ROCKY POINT HARBOR BASIN LLC.
21:46:02 I DO WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE
21:46:03 COUNCIL.
21:46:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
21:46:05 COUNCIL.
21:46:06 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS
21:46:07 THIS EVENING.
21:46:08 I THINK THEY WERE INTERESTING.
21:46:09 BUT I'M GOING TO JUST STICK WITH
21:46:11 SOME QUICK FACTS AND THEN I'M
21:46:13 GOING TO SAY GOOD NIGHT AND
21:46:14 THANK YOU AGAIN.
21:46:14 REAL QUICK, MR. MICHELINI WAS
21:46:18 ADAMANT -- ADAMANT ABOUT THIS
21:46:22 NOT BEING A BORROW PIT.
21:46:23 THIS IS A 1967 PERMIT FROM THE
21:46:26 ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, 67155,
21:46:29 AND THAT'S THE ACTUAL HARBOR.
21:46:32 IT IS A BORROW PIT.
21:46:34 IT WAS PERMITTED BY THE ARMY
21:46:35 CORPS OF ENGINEER, TAMPA PORT
21:46:37 AUTHORITY AND APPROVED BY THE
21:46:40 BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE
21:46:41 INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
21:46:42 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE
21:46:43 FACTS STRAIGHT ON THIS
21:46:45 PARTICULAR ISSUE.
21:46:46 THE OTHER FACT, NON-NAVIGABLE
21:46:50 WATERWAY.
21:46:51 NON-NAVIGABLE.
21:46:52 REALLY INTERESTING DEFINITION.
21:46:54 MR. MICHELINI SHOWED MAPS I
21:46:55 THINK BACK TO THE 1890s.
21:46:58 THIS IS A U.S. GOVERNMENT SURVEY
21:46:59 FROM THE 1850s.
21:47:01 THIS WAS DONE BY THE UNITED
21:47:02 STATES GOVERNMENT.
21:47:03 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HARBOR BASIN
21:47:05 IS OUTLINED IN RED.
21:47:07 YOU CAN SEE THAT IT RESIDES
21:47:10 WITHIN GOVERNMENT LOTS.
21:47:11 THESE ARE PARTIAL COASTAL LOTS.
21:47:13 THESE WERE NEVER AND A HALF
21:47:16 GOBBLE WATERWAYS AT THE TIME OF
21:47:18 STATUS.
21:47:18 -- STATEHOOD.
21:47:20 I WANT IT TO BE FOR THE RECORD
21:47:22 BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE IS A
21:47:23 DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN OUR
21:47:24 INTERPRETATION OF WHAT OUR LAND
21:47:25 IS, WHAT OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS
21:47:27 ARE.
21:47:28 WE DON'T OWN WATER.
21:47:29 NO ONE OWNS WATER.
21:47:31 WE OWN NON-SOVEREIGN SUBMERGED
21:47:35 LAND THAT WAS DULY CONVEYED FROM
21:47:37 THE STATE OF NEW YORK -- EXCUSE
21:47:39 ME, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, TO THE
21:47:43 TAMPA PORT DISTRICT AND THEN
21:47:45 CONVEYED TO MY PREDECESSOR
21:47:48 OWNER, ROCKY POINT DEVELOPMENT
21:47:49 COMPANY.
21:47:50 NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS IS, THE
21:47:52 TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY AT THE TIME
21:47:54 REALIZED THEY NEED TO CHANNELIZE
21:47:56 THIS NON-NAVIGABLE PORTION OF
21:47:58 UPPER AND OLD TAMPA BAY.
21:48:01 ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
21:48:02 THE AREA BENEFIT FROM THE
21:48:03 PROJECTS THAT MY PREDECESSORS
21:48:04 DID.
21:48:05 DID THEY DO IT RIGHT?
21:48:06 DO IT ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND?
21:48:07 IT'S DIFFERENT.
21:48:08 WE NOW HAVE SIGNIFICANT LAYERS
21:48:11 OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION,
21:48:12 THAT IF YOU WERE TO GRANT OUR
21:48:14 COMP PLAN REQUESTS, WHICH WE
21:48:15 CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE, WE
21:48:16 HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE LAYERS.
21:48:18 THESE FINE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE
21:48:20 ABLE TO GO AT EACH AND EVERY ONE
21:48:22 OF THE HEARINGS.
21:48:22 THEY'LL GO TO EVERY ONE OF THE
21:48:24 PUBLIC HEARINGS, FOR EVERY ONE
21:48:25 OF THOSE REGULATORY AGENCIES.
21:48:27 THAT'S NOT YOUR PURVIEW.
21:48:28 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
21:48:30 AND I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING
21:48:32 FOR THE RECORD.
21:48:32 MANATEE PROTECTION ZONE IS A
21:48:36 VOLUNTARY MANATEE PROTECTION
21:48:38 PLAN AND ZONE, WHICH DOES ONE
21:48:40 THING -- REGULATES BOAT SPEED.
21:48:43 LET ME SHOW YOU.
21:48:44 THE DOTS HERE, THE RED DOTS,
21:48:46 THAT MEANS SLOW SPEED IN THE
21:48:47 SUMMERTIME WHEN MANATEES ARE
21:48:49 ACTIVE IN THAT AREA.
21:48:50 YOU CAN SEE THE CHANNEL IN THE
21:48:52 BLUE, THAT INDICATES THAT THERE
21:48:54 IS NO SPEED RESTRICTION ANYTIME
21:48:57 EXCEPT FOR IN THE SUMMER.
21:48:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:49:00 WE'D APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR --
21:49:02 WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR
21:49:02 PATIENCE AND KINDNESS.
21:49:03 JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE
21:49:10 RECORD, WISH TO REFORM COUNCIL,
21:49:13 DURING THE REBUTTAL, MR. HORNER
21:49:15 GAVE ME A BOOKLET THAT HE ASKED
21:49:16 TO BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD.
21:49:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO
21:49:18 RECEIVE AND FILE.
21:49:19 >> SECOND.
21:49:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY
21:49:20 MR. MIRANDA TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
21:49:22 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
21:49:23 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
21:49:25 OPPOSED.
21:49:25 ALL RIGHT, MR. MANISCALCO, YOU
21:49:28 HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
21:49:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU
21:49:30 VERY MUCH.
21:49:31 AS MANY IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE
21:49:34 SAID, THEY WERE BORN AND RAISED,
21:49:35 TAMPA NATIVE.
21:49:36 I'M ALSO A TAMPA NATIVE, BORN
21:49:38 AND RAISED.
21:49:39 I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THE WATER AND
21:49:40 I'VE ALWAYS RESPECTED THE
21:49:42 ENVIRONMENT.
21:49:42 I REMEMBER BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL,
21:49:43 I WAS ON THE ROWING TEAM, ROWING
21:49:45 DOWN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
21:49:46 I REMEMBER ALSO BACK IN HIGH
21:49:48 SCHOOL I HAD FRIENDS THAT LIVED
21:49:49 ON PELICAN ISLAND AND WE WOULD
21:49:51 TAKE THEIR JET SKI OUT, THIS IS
21:49:54 ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, ALMOST, AND
21:49:56 WE WOULD GO DOWN THESE SAME
21:49:58 AREAS THAT WE WERE TALKING
21:50:00 ABOUT.
21:50:00 I REMEMBER SEEING THE MANATEE.
21:50:02 I REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES WE
21:50:03 BROKE DOWN ON THE JET SKI AND
21:50:04 HAD TO SWIM BACK, WHATEVER IT
21:50:06 WAS, AND STUCK IN THE WATER.
21:50:08 YOU WOULD SEE THE WILDLIFE.
21:50:09 YOU WOULD SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL THE
21:50:10 ENVIRONMENT WAS, THAT WHOLE
21:50:11 AREA.
21:50:12 FAST-FORWARD, MEMBER OF CITY
21:50:16 COUNCIL, BUT ALSO THE CHAIRMAN
21:50:17 OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER BOARD.
21:50:18 I SIT ON THE TAMPA BAY ESTUARY
21:50:22 POLICY BOARD REPRESENTING THE
21:50:23 CITY OF TAMPA.
21:50:24 THE ENVIRONMENT IS SOMETHING
21:50:26 THAT HAS BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO
21:50:27 MY HEART ALWAYS.
21:50:28 NOW I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
21:50:29 REPRESENT IT IN A DIFFERENT
21:50:32 CAPACITY.
21:50:32 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS FILLING,
21:50:37 THIS OUTDATED POLICY THAT WAS
21:50:39 ESSENTIALLY OUTLAWED OR
21:50:41 FORGOTTEN ABOUT IN THE 1970s,
21:50:43 SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP DDT,
21:50:44 SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS OUTLAWED
21:50:46 IN THE 1970s.
21:50:48 WHY ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS?
21:50:49 THIS IS 2018.
21:50:50 DAVIS ISLANDS IN THE 1920s WAS
21:50:53 CREATED, FILLING AND DREDGING
21:50:56 AND ALL THIS STUFF BEFORE THE
21:50:58 EPA, BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENT
21:51:00 BECAME A PRIORITY FOR THE
21:51:01 GOVERNMENT IN THE 1970s.
21:51:03 WE DID ALL THESE THINGS.
21:51:04 THE CONVERSATION HAS CHANGED NOW
21:51:06 IN 2018 WHEN WE THINK ABOUT AND
21:51:08 IT'S CONTROVERSIAL TO SOME, SEA
21:51:11 LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
21:51:13 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE THINKING
21:51:14 ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
21:51:15 WHY ARE WE BEING REGRESSIVE?
21:51:17 WHY IS THIS EVEN HAPPENING?
21:51:19 WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, MY
21:51:20 FIRST THOUGHTS WERE, HOW DID
21:51:21 THIS GET PAST THE PLANNING
21:51:23 COMMISSION?
21:51:24 WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING TO DEAL
21:51:26 WITH THIS?
21:51:26 I'M THINKING ABOUT IT GOING,
21:51:28 WELL, WHAT'S GOING ON?
21:51:30 WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP
21:51:33 THIS NOW.
21:51:33 I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS, NOT JUST
21:51:36 BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA FINDS
21:51:37 IT INCONSISTENT, BUT BECAUSE OF
21:51:39 OUR ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE OF THE
21:51:40 CLIMATE CHANGE, BECAUSE OF
21:51:42 POTENTIAL SEA LEVEL RISES.
21:51:44 WHAT IF WE GET HIT BY A
21:51:46 HURRICANE?
21:51:47 ALWAYS A THREAT.
21:51:48 WHAT ABOUT EVACUATION?
21:51:49 WHAT ABOUT SO MANY THINGS?
21:51:51 I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH
21:51:53 THIS.
21:51:54 IS IT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO
21:51:55 TAKE ANY PARCEL OF LAND OR WATER
21:51:57 OR ANYTHING THAT CAN BE
21:51:58 DEVELOPED AND ACTUALLY HAVE TO
21:51:58 DO SOMETHING WITH IT?
21:52:00 IS EVERYTHING ABOUT PROFIT AND
21:52:01 MONEY?
21:52:01 CAN WE PUT THAT ASIDE AND THINK
21:52:03 ABOUT THE FUTURE GENERATIONS,
21:52:05 THINK ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT,
21:52:06 PROTECTING IT, WHICH WE SHOULD
21:52:09 BE DOING?
21:52:10 SO I'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES OF THE
21:52:12 ARGUMENT.
21:52:12 I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS
21:52:14 FROM BOTH SIDES.
21:52:15 EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.
21:52:16 I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THIS,
21:52:18 AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT
21:52:20 TONIGHT.
21:52:20 THANK YOU.
21:52:20 [ APPLAUSE ]
21:52:26 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
21:52:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE GOING TO
21:52:28 ASK YOU TO HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.
21:52:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO THANK
21:52:43 ALL THE ENTHUSIASM NO MATTER HOW
21:52:45 WE VOTE.
21:52:47 TO SEE RESIDENTS, CITIZENS AND
21:52:48 CONSTITUENTS COME OUT HERE,
21:52:50 ESPECIALLY AS IT'S ABOUT 10:00
21:52:52 AT NIGHT ON A THURSDAY NIGHT.
21:52:53 A LOT OF THE FOLKS OUT HERE HAVE
21:52:55 TO WORK.
21:52:56 WE ARE AT WORK.
21:52:56 YOU ALL ARE NOT AT WORK.
21:52:57 I THINK THAT IS A VERY, VERY
21:52:59 POSITIVE THING.
21:53:00 WE HEARD A LOT OF ARGUMENTS OUT
21:53:01 HERE TODAY.
21:53:02 I, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE,
21:53:04 COUNCILMAN, MANISCALCO, NOT
21:53:05 CONVINCED BY THE PETITIONER'S
21:53:06 ARGUMENTS.
21:53:06 A LOT OF RELIANCE IS PLACED ON
21:53:09 THIS RELEASE THAT WE KEEP ON
21:53:10 HEARING ABOUT, WHILE THAT'S
21:53:12 RELEVANT TO TWO OTHER PARTIES,
21:53:13 IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE
21:53:15 PUBLIC.
21:53:15 IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS
21:53:17 LEGISLATIVE BODY.
21:53:18 IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE CITY OF
21:53:19 TAMPA.
21:53:20 IT IS SOMETHING THAT BINDS TWO
21:53:22 PARTIES, AND IF ONE PARTY SEEKS
21:53:24 TO CHANGE OR MODIFY IT, AS
21:53:27 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN NOTED IN HER
21:53:30 QUESTIONS, WE WOULD HAVE
21:53:32 ABSOLUTELY NO STANDING
21:53:33 WHATSOEVER TO ENFORCE THAT.
21:53:35 UNTIL WE ARE PART OF THAT, I
21:53:36 JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS A
21:53:37 RELEVANT ISSUE.
21:53:38 I'M SCARED, FRANKLY, OF THE
21:53:40 PRECEDENT OF WHERE THIS TAKES
21:53:42 US.
21:53:42 WE COULD -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE A
21:53:44 CITY WITH A BIRTH RIGHT, A
21:53:45 MODERN BIRTH RIGHT OF
21:53:47 ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND
21:53:48 ENVIRONMENTAL BEAUTY WITH OUR
21:53:50 BAY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT.
21:53:51 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ EARLY ON ASKED
21:53:53 I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
21:53:55 QUESTION, SUBSTANTIVELY HERE,
21:53:58 WHICH IS, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME
21:53:59 THIS HAPPENED FROM A PRIVATE
21:54:02 COMPANY?
21:54:03 AND THE ANSWER WAS, NOT SINCE
21:54:04 THE 1970s.
21:54:05 WELL, ASK YOURSELF, WHAT
21:54:07 HAPPENED IN THE 1970s OTHER
21:54:09 THAN BELL-BOTTOMS?
21:54:10 A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED IN
21:54:12 1970s.
21:54:13 WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE
21:54:14 ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL
21:54:15 STEWARDSHIP.
21:54:16 1970, THE ENVIRONMENTAL
21:54:17 PROTECTION AGENCY, 1970, EARTH
21:54:20 DAY.
21:54:21 1970, THE CLEAR AIR ACT.
21:54:23 THE NEXT YEAR, THE CLEAN WATER
21:54:25 ACT.
21:54:26 AFTER THAT, THE ENDANGERED
21:54:28 SPECIES ACT.
21:54:29 1977, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY,
21:54:31 A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT,
21:54:33 SUPERFUND.
21:54:33 IT WAS A NATIONAL MOVEMENT WHERE
21:54:35 WE BEGAN TO TAKE OUR
21:54:37 ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP
21:54:39 SERIOUSLY.
21:54:40 I WASN'T AROUND BACK THEN.
21:54:41 I WAS BORN IN 1978, BUT I WOULD
21:54:44 BET A MILLION BUCKS THAT THAT
21:54:46 NATIONAL SENTIMENT THAT WE SAW
21:54:47 IN WASHINGTON EITHER TRICKLED UP
21:54:50 OR TRICKLED DOWN AND HAD
21:54:51 SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT
21:54:52 THAT WE DON'T DO PROJECTS LIKE
21:54:54 THIS IN THE LAST 40 YEARS.
21:54:55 I CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S A
21:54:57 REASONABLE ASSUMPTION TO MAKE.
21:54:59 AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CAUSES
21:55:02 SO MUCH OF THE AGGRAVATION THAT
21:55:04 THIS PROGRAM HAS CAUSED, THIS
21:55:06 PROPOSAL HAS CAUSED TO THE
21:55:07 COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WE DON'T DO
21:55:09 THINGS LIKE THAT HERE.
21:55:10 WE HAVEN'T DONE THEM FOR 40
21:55:11 YEARS, AND MY VOTE CERTAINLY
21:55:13 WILL NOT SUPPORT DOING IT HERE
21:55:14 TONIGHT.
21:55:14 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:55:16 [ APPLAUSE ]
21:55:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'M GOING TO
21:55:22 REMIND YOU AGAIN ABOUT NOT
21:55:24 APPLAUDING.
21:55:25 WE CAN ADJOURN THIS MEETING
21:55:28 WITHOUT A VOTE.
21:55:31 AND YOU'VE BEEN SITTING HERE ALL
21:55:33 THIS EVENING AND ADJOURN THIS
21:55:35 MEETING WITHOUT A VOTE.
21:55:36 SO IF YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH
21:55:38 THIS PROCESS, I ADVISE YOU NOT
21:55:41 TO APPLAUD.
21:55:42 NOW THAT'S THE SECOND TIME.
21:55:46 MR. MIRANDA.
21:55:48 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
21:55:50 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:55:50 EXCUSE ME.
21:55:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT
21:55:56 TO SAY, MR. VIERA, FOR NOT BEING
21:56:00 AROUND, YOU CERTAINLY REMEMBER
21:56:01 IT.
21:56:02 I WANT TO THANK THE PETITIONER
21:56:03 AND HIS REPRESENTATIVE AND THE
21:56:05 PEOPLE WHO SPOKE AND THOSE WHO
21:56:07 CAME.
21:56:07 IT'S HARD TO COME DOWNTOWN.
21:56:09 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
21:56:09 IT'S HARD TO FIND A PARKING
21:56:12 SPACE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO
21:56:13 FIND YOUR MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.
21:56:15 I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
21:56:16 BUT EVERYTHING WAS CIVIL, AND I
21:56:18 ENJOYED LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES.
21:56:21 IT WAS EDUCATIONAL.
21:56:21 MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WANT A
21:56:23 MOTION, I'M READY TO MAKE ONE.
21:56:33 ALL RIGHT.
21:56:33 NO PROBLEM.
21:56:33 IT WAS VERY CIVIL.
21:56:34 I ENJOYED IT A LOT AND I LEARNED
21:56:36 A LOT.
21:56:36 IN THE '70s, WE STARTED
21:56:37 CLEANING OUT THE BAY A LOT.
21:56:40 AND THAT RECLAIMED WATER FROM
21:56:42 THE HOWARD CURREN TERTIARY
21:56:42 TREATMENT PLANT WAS MENTIONED
21:56:46 HERE, NOT INDIRECTLY, BUT
21:56:49 INDIRECTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT
21:56:50 STARTED CLEANING OUT THE BAY.
21:56:56 THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN DOING
21:56:57 EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE
21:56:58 THAT CONTINUES.
21:56:59 HOWEVER, LET ME WARN YOU, ALL OF
21:57:01 YOU THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA RIGHT
21:57:03 NOW IS IN NEED OF ABOUT A
21:57:05 BILLION DOLLARS IN TODAY'S
21:57:06 DOLLARS JUST FOR UNDERGROUND
21:57:08 WATER PIPES AND SEWER LINES
21:57:10 GOING TO THOSE PLANTS.
21:57:11 THE WATER LINE IS NOT EASY.
21:57:14 AND WE HAVE SIX TO EIGHT WATER
21:57:17 BREAKS A DAY.
21:57:18 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:57:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
21:57:23 >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY
21:57:23 MUCH.
21:57:23 I WILL BE BRIEF BECAUSE I THINK
21:57:26 MOST EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED TO
21:57:27 BE SAID TONIGHT HAS BEEN SAID.
21:57:29 AND I THINK THAT THE CASE IS --
21:57:31 HAS CLEARLY BEEN MADE THAT THIS
21:57:33 PROPOSAL VIOLATES AT LEAST SIX
21:57:36 OR SEVEN ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES
21:57:40 THAT I HAVE SITTING RIGHT IN
21:57:41 FRONT OF ME.
21:57:42 I WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING
21:57:43 COMMENT.
21:57:44 EVER SINCE THIS PROPOSAL CAME
21:57:46 UP, THERE'S BEEN A LOT WRITTEN
21:57:48 ABOUT IT AND WE CERTAINLY
21:57:49 RECEIVED A LOT OF
21:57:51 CORRESPONDENCE.
21:57:51 I KEEP THINKING ABOUT SMOKING ON
21:57:53 AIRPLANES.
21:57:53 WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT DREDGING
21:57:57 IN TAMPA BAY.
21:57:58 I THINK FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD
21:58:02 FROM THE PRESENTATION, THE
21:58:04 MORATORIUM ON DREDGING AND
21:58:06 FILLING CAME INTO BEING SOMETIME
21:58:08 IN THE MID 1970s.
21:58:11 THE SPEAKER FROM THE AUDUBON
21:58:14 SOCIETY SAID IT'S BEEN IN PLACE
21:58:16 FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.
21:58:17 AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S ABOUT
21:58:18 THE SAME TIME AS SOMEONE FIGURED
21:58:21 OUT THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE SMOKING
21:58:23 CIGARETTES ON AIRPLANES.
21:58:24 AND IF SOMEONE CAME BACK TODAY
21:58:26 WITH THE PROPOSAL TO DO THAT, WE
21:58:30 WOULD BE SHOCKED.
21:58:32 WE WOULD THINK THAT WE WERE
21:58:33 GOING BACKWARDS, AS SOME OF THE
21:58:34 OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID.
21:58:35 IT JUST SIMPLY WOULDN'T COMPORT
21:58:39 WITH THE WAY IN WHICH WE TREAT
21:58:41 THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE LIVE
21:58:42 AND BREATHE AND SWIM AND EXIST.
21:58:44 I SHARE THE VIEW OF MY
21:58:49 COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE SPOKEN AND
21:58:50 I SURMISE THE ONES THAT WILL
21:58:52 SPEAK THAT THIS IS NOT THE
21:58:54 DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD BE
21:58:55 GOING IN, THAT OPENING THIS DOOR
21:58:58 TO OTHER DEVELOPERS TO COME AND
21:59:00 ASK FOR THE SAME THINGS
21:59:02 THROUGHOUT THE CITY REALLY IS
21:59:03 OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX.
21:59:05 AND FINALLY, WITHOUT GETTING
21:59:08 INTO THE DETAILS OF THE DRI,
21:59:11 DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS AND THE
21:59:13 PRIVATE AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN'T
21:59:16 ENFORCE, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
21:59:17 I THINK IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO
21:59:18 RELY ON AGENCIES THAT WOULD HAVE
21:59:21 TO DEAL WITH THIS IN THE FUTURE
21:59:22 TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD
21:59:24 ISSUE THESE PERMITS, TO REQUIRE
21:59:27 ALL OF YOU TO GO OUT TO NUMEROUS
21:59:29 PUBLIC HEARINGS TO KEEP FIGHTING
21:59:30 THIS THING OVER AND OVER AND
21:59:32 OVER AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
21:59:35 I THINK WHOEVER SAID IT WAS OUR
21:59:37 JOB TO PUT A STOP TO IT TONIGHT
21:59:39 WAS CORRECT.
21:59:40 AND I'M GOING TO VOTE LIKE MY
21:59:41 COLLEAGUES TO DENY THIS
21:59:42 APPLICATION.
21:59:48 >> IF IT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT AT
21:59:49 THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
21:59:50 A MOTION TO CLOSE AND THEN MAKE
21:59:52 A MOTION -- I WASN'T SURE IF YOU
21:59:56 WANTED TO SPEAK.
21:59:56 I APOLOGIZE.
22:00:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: [MICROPHONE NOT
22:00:17 ON]
22:00:19 >> IF MR. MIRANDA WILL MAKE THE
22:00:21 MOTION, THAT'S FINE.
22:00:22 SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT THAT
22:00:26 THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT
22:00:28 THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ARE.
22:00:29 IT IS.
22:00:30 THERE IS A LEGAL PROCESS THAT WE
22:00:31 HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
22:00:32 THAT'S WHY WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT
22:00:34 IT.
22:00:34 IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT
22:00:36 TO TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
22:00:39 IT'S THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS
22:00:41 CAPTURED BY THE LAW IN THIS
22:00:43 CASE.
22:00:44 UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO HAVE TO
22:00:45 TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE LEGAL
22:00:46 REQUIREMENTS.
22:00:47 THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT
22:00:49 WERE PUT IN PLACE THAT WERE NOT
22:00:52 OF OUR DOING.
22:00:52 NONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS
22:00:53 COUNCIL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH
22:00:58 WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
22:00:59 I WAS LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF
22:01:00 THINGS, I KNOW MR. MIRANDA WILL
22:01:01 HAPPEN SOME OF THE SPECIFICS
22:01:03 THAT WE HAVE TALK ABOUT
22:01:05 CONCERNING THE LAW, BUT
22:01:06 SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY
22:01:08 ATTENTION BY LEGAL STAFF AND
22:01:10 BROUGHT TO BEAR WHAT THE TAMPA
22:01:12 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, AND WHEN
22:01:13 WE'RE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE
22:01:16 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:01:17 REMEMBER, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
22:01:18 IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
22:01:21 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING
22:01:23 COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF
22:01:24 TAMPA.
22:01:25 WE CONTROL OUR OWN COMPREHENSIVE
22:01:28 PLAN.
22:01:28 WE DO IT IN AGREEMENT WITH, AND
22:01:31 SOMETIMES AGAINST WHAT THE
22:01:33 PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS,
22:01:34 BECAUSE WE ARE THE POLICY BOARD
22:01:36 THAT SETS THE POLICY IN PLACE.
22:01:40 SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW
22:01:42 ON HERE WHEN YOU'RE ASSESSING A
22:01:44 PROPOSED AMENDMENT, IT IS OUR
22:01:46 PLAN.
22:01:46 WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION
22:01:51 BASED ON THESE THINGS.
22:01:52 THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS NOT
22:01:53 SUPPORTED BY THE GOALS, WHICH I
22:01:54 DO NOT THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT
22:01:55 PROPOSAL IS SUPPORTED BY THE GO
22:01:58 ELSE THAT WE HAVE SET OUT IN OUR
22:01:59 ORIGINAL PLANNING DOCUMENT, OUR
22:02:01 ORIGINAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
22:02:03 THEN THE TYPE AND EXTENT OF
22:02:05 POSITIVE OR DETRIMENTAL IMPACT
22:02:07 THAT MAY AFFECT ADJACENT
22:02:10 PROPERTIES OR THE COMMUNITY
22:02:11 AT-LARGE, AND THAT IS OUR ROLE.
22:02:13 WE REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY
22:02:16 AT-LARGE.
22:02:16 WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE
22:02:18 ISSUES ON A POLICY BASIS, WE
22:02:19 HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND MAKE SURE
22:02:22 THAT THE POLICY ITSELF MAKES
22:02:25 SENSE, IS FAIR, AND IT PROTECTS
22:02:27 EVERYONE.
22:02:27 AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS
22:02:30 THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN
22:02:31 WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING
22:02:32 TOGETHER ANY KIND OF PLAN
22:02:35 CONCERNING OUR COMPREHENSIVE
22:02:36 PLAN.
22:02:37 YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS
22:02:43 ON ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
22:02:44 AND ONE OTHER PART OF THIS, THIS
22:02:45 IS, AGAIN, UNDER THE LEGAL
22:02:46 STATUS.
22:02:47 THE FIRST ONE WAS ON, I BELIEVE,
22:02:48 PAGE 326.
22:02:50 THIS ONE IS ON PAGE 328.
22:02:52 IT SAYS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT
22:02:53 THE SUBJECT AND ADJACENT
22:02:54 PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN UTILIZED
22:02:56 FOR THEIR CURRENT PURPOSES.
22:02:58 NOW, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
22:02:59 WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT -- AND WE
22:03:03 DO THIS EVERY WEEK.
22:03:05 EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS WE DO
22:03:06 PLANNING AND ZONING AND THINGS
22:03:07 LIKE THAT.
22:03:08 WE LOOK AT WHERE ARE WE AT?
22:03:12 WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING IN THE
22:03:14 PAST?
22:03:15 WHY HAS THIS PARTICULAR PLANNING
22:03:17 BEEN IN PLACE?
22:03:18 WHY ARE PEOPLE LIVING HERE?
22:03:19 THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE
22:03:21 VERY BEGINNING OF THIS
22:03:23 PARTICULAR PROJECT.
22:03:24 I THINK IT WAS PROVEN BY SOME
22:03:27 FOLKS IN THE OPPOSITION THAT
22:03:29 THAT WAS A BODY OF WATER FROM --
22:03:34 BEFORE ANY OF US WERE BORN.
22:03:36 BEFORE ANY OF US WERE IN THE
22:03:40 CITY OF TAMPA.
22:03:41 AND TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF WHAT
22:03:43 THAT IS WOULD BE AGAINST NOT
22:03:45 ONLY WHAT OUR PUBLIC TRUST AND
22:03:48 THE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY
22:03:49 AT-LARGE, BUT IN ADDITION, IT IS
22:03:51 NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAS
22:03:53 BEEN THERE BEFORE.
22:03:54 I WILL TELL YOU, I THINK THAT WE
22:03:58 WILL -- WHEN WE HAVE TO DEAL
22:04:03 WITH THESE TYPE OF THINGS,
22:04:04 ABSENT A DEFINITIVE WAY OF
22:04:08 LOOKING AT THIS, THAT WHEN WE
22:04:09 HAVE TO BALANCE THESE THINGS
22:04:10 OUT, I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW WE DO
22:04:13 THINK OF THESE THINGS SERIOUSLY
22:04:14 AND WE DO THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC
22:04:15 AT-LARGE.
22:04:16 WE ALL APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
22:04:18 ALL OF YOU WERE HERE TONIGHT.
22:04:19 MR. VIERA SAID IT PERFECTLY.
22:04:22 WE GET PAID TO BE HERE, OKAY.
22:04:24 BY THE WAY, WE DID GET A CHANCE
22:04:25 TO EAT.
22:04:26 THAT'S WHY A LOT OF US GO OFF.
22:04:28 THERE'S FOOD FOR US IN THE BACK.
22:04:32 SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT US.
22:04:33 [ LAUGHTER ]
22:04:34 NOT ONLY DO WE GET A CHANCE TO
22:04:35 WORK, WE DO GET A CHANCE TO SEE
22:04:37 OUR NEIGHBORS BE ENGAGED IN
22:04:40 WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY.
22:04:41 WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
22:04:42 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
22:04:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
22:04:45 YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING COUNCILMAN
22:04:48 VIERA SPOKE ABOUT THE '70s, IT
22:04:50 WAS CALLED THE CULTURAL
22:04:51 REVOLUTION, AND IT CHANGED THE
22:04:53 CULTURE AT THAT TIME.
22:04:55 I REMEMBER, I WAS THERE.
22:04:56 IT WAS THE TIME OF CHANGE.
22:05:03 VERY DRAMATIC CHANGE IN ALL
22:05:06 PARTS OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, IN OUR
22:05:09 GOVERNMENT.
22:05:09 AND I HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE TO
22:05:11 COMMEND MR. HEY FOR PRESENTING
22:05:17 THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
22:05:20 FINDINGS AS ELOQUENTLY AS HE
22:05:23 DID, MAKING SURE THAT WE HEARD
22:05:27 EVERY SINGLE PART OF IT.
22:05:29 I NEVER HEARD HIM TALK SO LONG.
22:05:33 HE MADE SURE WE KNEW EVERY
22:05:37 BENEFIT -- BIT OF IT.
22:05:39 I APPRECIATE THAT.
22:05:40 I WANT TO SAY TO STAFF,
22:05:41 ESPECIALLY LEGAL STAFF FOR THEIR
22:05:45 EXPERTISE IN BRINGING US UP TO
22:05:48 THIS POINT.
22:05:49 AND, OF COURSE, TO YOU ALL FOR
22:05:50 BEING HERE.
22:05:51 IT REALLY IS -- YOU KNOW, WHEN
22:05:55 YOU'RE A PUBLIC SERVANT AND YOU
22:05:57 SEE THE PUBLIC, I'VE BEEN THERE
22:05:59 LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN HERE.
22:06:00 SO I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO COME
22:06:02 OUT FROM YOUR HOME AND SIT HERE
22:06:04 FOR HOURS.
22:06:05 IT REALLY IS AN MISTAKING GROUP
22:06:08 OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT HERE TO
22:06:12 SPEAK TONIGHT.
22:06:13 I MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
22:06:14 I AM ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF
22:06:18 PASSING THIS, AND I WILL NOT BE
22:06:19 SUPPORTING IT.
22:06:20 BECAUSE OF THE CULTURE
22:06:22 REVOLUTION.
22:06:23 THANK YOU.
22:06:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
22:06:26 YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY?
22:06:31 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
22:06:32 >> SECOND.
22:06:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION
22:06:34 FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
22:06:37 MR. MANISCALCO.
22:06:38 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
22:06:39 OPPOSED?
22:06:40 MOTION PASSES.
22:06:41 ALL RIGHT, MR. MIRANDA --
22:06:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU,
22:06:43 MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:06:44 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
22:06:45 I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU
22:06:46 AGAIN, ESPECIALLY THE PLANNING
22:06:47 COMMISSION, CITY STAFF FOR DOING
22:06:49 AN OUTSTANDING JOB MAKING YOUR
22:06:50 PRESENTATIONS.
22:06:51 BECAUSE THIS PETITION IS
22:06:52 INCONSISTENT WITH THE
22:06:53 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I MOVE TO
22:06:55 DENY PA 17-10, ITEM NUMBER 2 ON
22:06:59 THE AGENDA.
22:06:59 I ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE CITY
22:07:02 STAFF REPORT, INCLUDING THE
22:07:03 ADDITION OF PLAN PROVISION STAFF
22:07:05 IDENTIFIED AT THE HEARING.
22:07:06 I REFER TO COUNCIL TO THESE
22:07:07 POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES THAT ARE
22:07:09 INCONSISTENT WITH THE PETITION.
22:07:10 LAND USE, OBJECTIVE 1.2, POLICY
22:07:14 1.2.3, LAND USE OBJECTIVE 4.2,
22:07:19 POLICY 4.2, 2.2, COASTAL
22:07:23 MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.1
22:07:25 REGARDING THE COASTAL HIGH
22:07:26 HAZARD AREAS, POLICY 1.1.1.3,
22:07:31 POLICY 1.1.6, POLICY 1.2.5,
22:07:37 ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY 1.18.4,
22:07:41 PROTECT THE MANATEES, POLICY
22:07:42 1.3.1, RETAINING NATURAL AREAS,
22:07:46 OBJECTIVE 1.2, PROTECTING LIVE
22:07:51 MARINE RESOURCES AND WILDLIFE
22:07:52 HABITAT.
22:07:53 IN ADDITION, THE PROPERTY IS
22:07:55 WATER.
22:07:55 IT HAS NO CURRENT DENSITY
22:07:58 ENTITLEMENT AND NO EXPECTATION
22:07:59 OF DENSITY ENTITLEMENT.
22:08:02 THE PETITIONER HAS NOT
22:08:05 DEMONSTRATED ANY VESTED RIGHTS
22:08:07 UNDER THE COMP PLAN OR LAND
22:08:08 DEVELOPMENT REGULATION.
22:08:09 THE AREA IS A MANATEE PROTECTED
22:08:12 AREA.
22:08:12 MANATEES AND OTHER WILDLIFE USE
22:08:15 THE BASIN.
22:08:16 THE BASIN IS NOT MAN-MADE BODY
22:08:20 OF WATER.
22:08:21 IT WAS ALTERED, ADMITTEDLY, BUT
22:08:23 EXISTED BEFORE THE ALTERATION.
22:08:28 TO ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD
22:08:29 SET A PRECEDENT TO CREATE
22:08:30 DENSITY ENTITLEMENT ON OTHER
22:08:31 SUBMERGED LANDS.
22:08:33 >> SECOND.
22:08:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM
22:08:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:08:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
22:08:39 MANISCALCO.
22:08:40 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE
22:08:42 MOTION?
22:08:42 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION
22:08:44 SAY AYE.
22:08:45 THOSE OPPOSED.
22:08:45 NOW YOU CAN APPLAUD.
22:08:48 [ APPLAUSE ]
22:08:50 [ CHEERS & APPLAUSE ]
22:09:06 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
22:09:12 >> WE DO HAVE TO FINISH OUR
22:09:14 BUSINESS.
22:09:14 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
22:09:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE NEED YOU TO
22:09:26 EXIT QUIETLY.
22:09:27 WE STILL HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO
22:09:28 WRAP UP THE BUSINESS OF THE
22:09:29 NIGHT.
22:09:30 INFORMATION REPORTS, NEW
22:09:39 BUSINESS, MR. VIERA?
22:09:44 >> NONE, SIR.
22:09:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
22:09:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN,
22:09:47 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
22:09:49 DIRECT THE PLANNING COMMISSION
22:09:49 TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL POLICY
22:09:52 LANGUAGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE
22:09:54 PLAN CLARIFYING THAT THE PLAN
22:09:56 PROHIBITS THE DEVELOPMENT OF
22:09:57 SUBMERGED LANDS.
22:09:58 >> SECOND.
22:09:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM
22:10:00 MR. MIRANDA.
22:10:01 SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
22:10:02 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
22:10:05 >> MR. MIRANDA, ARE YOU
22:10:07 EXPECTING FOR THEM TO COME BACK
22:10:08 WITH THAT SUGGESTED LANGUAGE?
22:10:09 AND THEN COME BACK TO US.
22:10:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY FURTHER
22:10:17 DISCUSSION?
22:10:17 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
22:10:18 AYE.
22:10:18 OPPOSED?
22:10:19 YOU WANT A TIMELINE ON THAT?
22:10:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW
22:10:26 WHAT THE TIMELINE SHOULD BE.
22:10:27 MR. HEY.
22:10:31 WHAT'S THE TIMELINE IN MEETING
22:10:35 THE OBJECTIVES ON WHAT I JUST
22:10:38 SAID?
22:10:39 YOU WANT ME TO READ IT AGAIN.
22:10:41 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING,
22:10:42 COUNCIL MEMBERS, DAVID HEY.
22:10:44 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
22:10:45 WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT
22:10:50 YOU'VE SUGGESTED AS POLICY.
22:10:52 WE DO HAVE OUR -- THE
22:10:54 AUGUST 1st SUBMITTAL.
22:10:57 WE PROBABLY COULD MAKE.
22:10:59 NOVEMBER IS THE NEXT ONE.
22:11:00 BUT CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN
22:11:01 INITIATE A SPECIAL PLAN
22:11:03 AMENDMENT AT ANY TIME.
22:11:03 SO SIX MONTHS?
22:11:08 SIX MONTHS WE COULD PROBABLY BE
22:11:10 BACK, MAYBE SOONER, SLIGHTLY
22:11:12 SOONER, MAYBE.
22:11:17 >> ANYTIME BEFORE WE LEAVE.
22:11:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE OUR TERM
22:11:20 IS UP.
22:11:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOVEMBER.
22:11:31 I GUESS THAT'S SIX MONTHS.
22:11:35 >>DAVID HEY: WE'LL COORDINATE
22:11:35 WITH OUR CITY PARTNERS AND GET
22:11:38 BACK WITH YOU WITH
22:11:39 RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO
22:11:42 IMPLEMENT YOUR --
22:11:46 >> DO YOU WANT THAT AS PART OF A
22:11:48 STAFF REPORT IN NOVEMBER OR JUST
22:11:49 COME BACK --
22:11:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I'M
22:11:51 TRYING TO MAKE SURE -- I DON'T
22:11:52 WANT TO PUT A BURDEN ON THEM
22:11:53 THAT THEY CAN'T MEET OBJECTIVE
22:11:55 BY NOVEMBER.
22:11:55 IF YOU NEED AN EXTRA MONTH, WE
22:11:58 CAN MAKE IT DECEMBER.
22:11:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: RIGHT.
22:12:00 >>DAVID HEY: WHAT WE WOULD DO AS
22:12:03 STAFF IS COME BACK WITH
22:12:04 RECOMMENDATIONS.
22:12:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S SAY
22:12:06 NOVEMBER 30th.
22:12:08 HAVE ALL THAT MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
22:12:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S SET.
22:12:12 OKAY.
22:12:13 ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MIRANDA?
22:12:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
22:12:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
22:12:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NO.
22:12:19 I'VE SAID ENOUGH.
22:12:21 [ LAUGHTER ]
22:12:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEW BUSINESS?
22:12:23 MR. MANISCALCO.
22:12:29 >> HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.
22:12:30 >> OH, THANK YOU.
22:12:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
22:12:33 >> 21 YEARS.
22:12:35 >>HARRY COHEN: I HAVE ONE ITEM
22:12:36 AND IT IS A CEREMONIAL
22:12:37 PRESENTATION THAT COULD HAPPEN
22:12:39 AT EITHER A COUNCIL MEETING OR A
22:12:41 CRA MEETING.
22:12:42 AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK FROM
22:12:44 COUNCIL, SINCE THIS IS OUR LAST
22:12:46 MEETING FOR A WHILE, IF WE COULD
22:12:49 SCHEDULE A FIVE-MINUTE
22:12:51 PRESENTATION ON JULY 26th AT
22:12:52 9 A.M. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
22:12:54 CRA MONEY FROM POLLCO, PUBLIC
22:13:00 OPINION SOFTWARE FOR GOVERNMENT.
22:13:01 >> SECOND.
22:13:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A
22:13:04 MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
22:13:06 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
22:13:07 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
22:13:08 OPPOSED.
22:13:11 >>HARRY COHEN: ONE LAST THING,
22:13:12 HAVE A WONDERFUL VACATION AND
22:13:14 TIME OFF, EVERYONE.
22:13:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
22:13:22 WE'RE STILL IN SESSION.
22:13:24 MR. SUAREZ.
22:13:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
22:13:26 I HAVE NOTHING RIGHT NOW.
22:13:28 EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT VACATION.
22:13:30 ENJOY SPAIN, MS. CAPIN.
22:13:35 >> RECEIVE A FILE.
22:13:36 >> SECOND.
22:13:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A
22:13:37 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL
22:13:39 DOCUMENTS.
22:13:39 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY
22:13:40 AYE.
22:13:41 MADE BY MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED
22:13:45 BY MR. COHEN.
22:13:46 [ MEETING ADJOURNED ]
22:14:28