TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JULY 26, 2018
9:00 A.M. CRA MEETING
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08:30:22
09:02:17 >> GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
09:02:55 I CALL THIS CRA MEETING TO ORDER.
09:02:56 >> HARRY COHEN: BEFORE WE GO TO THE INVOCATION, COUNCILMAN
09:02:56 SUAREZ JUST INFORMED ME THAT CARLA LEWIS PASSED AWAY AND I
09:02:56 THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
09:03:22 (MOMENT OF SILENCE)
09:03:24 >> FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, CARLA WAS A LONG-TIME
09:03:28 CITY EMPLOYEE, AND SHE AND HER FAMILY ARE IN OUR THOUGHTS
09:03:32 AND PRAYERS.
09:03:35 WE ARE JOINED THIS MORNING BY RABBI JOEL SIMON WHO GREW UP
09:03:42 IN COLORADO. IN HIGH SCHOOL, HIS CLASSMATES VOTED HIM MOST
09:03:46 LIKELY TO BECOME A RABBI.
09:03:47 IN 2007, RABBI SIMON TOOK HIS FIRST JOB AS AN ASSOCIATE
09:03:52 RABBI AT CONGREGATION WHERE HE WORKED FOR 8 YEARS UNDER
09:03:57 RICHARD BIRNHOLZ.
09:03:59 IN 2015, RABBI SIMON LEFT TAMPA TO GO TO I BELIEVE IT WAS
09:04:02 ALLENTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA, CORRECT?
09:04:06 BUCKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE HE WAS A SENIOR RABBI FOR
09:04:09 THREE YEARS, PRIOR TO RETURNING TO TAMPA TO TAKE OVER
09:04:11 SCHAARAI ZEDEK CONGREGATION ON THE OCCASION OF RABBI
09:04:18 BIRNHOLZ'S RETIREMENT.
09:04:22 WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING FOR THE INVOCATION.
09:04:25 PLEASE RISE AND WE WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:27 >> THANK YOU.
09:04:31 AND MY CONDOLENCES.
09:04:36 I WANT TO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN COHEN AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL
09:04:41 FOR INVITING ME HERE.
09:04:43 WHILE WE ENJOYED THE SEASONS IN PENNSYLVANIA, THREE OF THEM,
09:04:46 WE ALSO REALIZED WHAT AN EXTREMELY SPECIAL COMMUNITY TAMPA
09:04:50 AND SCHAARAI ZEDEK CONGREGATION.
09:04:52 WE ARE TRULY DELIGHTED TO BE BACK.
09:04:55 IT'S EXTREMELY HUMBLING TO BE TAKING ON THE POSITION I AM
09:04:58 BUT I LOOK FORWARD IN NOT ONLY BETTERING MY CONGREGATION BUT
09:05:02 TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY IN MAKING OUR COMMUNITY A
09:05:05 BETTER PLACE AS WELL.
09:05:06 IN THE HEBREW CALENDAR WE FIND OURSELVES IN AN INTERESTING
09:05:10 TIME. THIS PAST SUNDAY WAS SHACHARIT, THE 9TH OF AV, A DAY
09:05:14 ON WHICH THE DESTRUCTION OF THE FIRST AND SECOND TEMPLES OF
09:05:17 JERUSALEM ARE COMMEMORATED ALONG WITH MULTIPLE TRAGEDIES
09:05:20 THAT HAVE BEFALLEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE RANGING FROM BIBLICAL
09:05:23 TO MODERN TIMES.
09:05:26 IT IS A FAST DAY AND A DAY THAT TRADITIONALLY MERITS THE
09:05:29 SAME RITUALS.
09:05:32 BUT TONIGHT, THE 13th of Av begins; TU B'AV IS OFTEN
09:05:37 CALLED THE JEWISH VALENTINE'S DAY.
09:05:39 AND IT'S A DAY ON WHICH MATCH MAKING WOULD OCCUR.
09:05:44 WE FIND OURSELVES THEREFORE CAUGHT IN BETWEEN THE TIME OF
09:05:46 WAR AND A TIME OF LOVE.
09:05:48 LITERALLY IN THE WORDS OF THE 30th PSALM, TURNING OUR
09:05:54 MOURNING INTO DANCING.
09:05:55 AT A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE IN SOME
09:05:58 WAYS AS DIVIDED AS THEY HAVE EVER BEEN, WE PRAY THAT THE
09:06:01 WORK OF THIS COUNCIL AND THE WORK OF OUR GREATER COMMUNITY
09:06:05 CAN TURN THIS DIVISION INTO UNITY SERVING ALL OF THE
09:06:12 RESIDENTS THAT RESPECTS THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.
09:06:15 WE PRAY THAT WE MAY BE GUIDED BY THE PRINCIPAL OF SERVING AS
09:06:20 PARTNERS WITH THE CREATOR AND REPAIRING A BROKEN WORLD.
09:06:23 NOT WAITING FOR SOLUTIONS FROM THE HEAVENS BUT ASKING IN THE
09:06:27 WAY THAT WE KNOW A GREATER GOOD DEMANDS IN ORDER TO CREATE
09:06:32 THOSE SOLUTIONS.
09:06:35 MAY A WORLD OF WAR BECOME ONE OF PEACE, A WORLD OF POVERTY
09:06:39 BECOMES ONE IN WHICH EVERYONE HAS WHAT THEY NEED, AND A
09:06:42 WORLD OF DIVISION AND DESTRUCTION BECOME ONE IN WHICH WE CAN
09:06:44 ALL AGREE AND UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLES THAT INSPIRE EACH OF US,
09:06:48 OF ALL BELIEFS, TO SERVE OUR GREATER PURPOSE, LEADING TO A
09:06:53 WORLD OF LOVE.
09:06:54 OUR GOD AND GOD OF OUR ANCESTORS BE WITH MEMBERS OF THIS
09:06:58 COUNCIL, THE GREAT CITY OF REPRESENTS AND ALL THOSE WHO
09:07:00 PROTECT IT AND MAY WE ALL SERVE AS A MODEL FOR OUR COUNTRY
09:07:04 AND THE WORLD OF SERVING A GREATER GOOD FOR WHAT WE KNOW IS
09:07:09 RIGHT AND LIVING SIDE BY SIDE IN LOVE AND PEACE.
09:07:13 MAY THIS BE YOUR WILL.
09:07:15 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:07:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:07:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
09:07:42 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
09:07:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
09:07:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:07:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
09:07:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:07:56 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE.
09:07:59 BUT SHOULD THE MAYOR OF ST. PETERSBURG WHEN HE DOES ARRIVE,
09:08:03 WE WILL BUMP UP ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:08:05 I WAS GOING TO SWITCH AND DO IT FIRST BUT HE'S NOT HERE SO
09:08:07 WE WILL GO TO OUR MONTHLY CAC REPRESENTATIVE REPORT FROM
09:08:13 ABBEY AHERN.
09:08:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:08:21 ABBEY AHERN.
09:08:31 2210 RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
09:08:34 I HAD A PARTNER IN CRIME BUT HE IS NO LONGER WITH ME TODAY.
09:08:41 I'M HERE STANDING IN FOR OUR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.
09:08:54 IT IS A RANGE OF ONE, TWO AND THREE-BEDROOM UNITS.
09:09:26 TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER HAS GREAT OPENINGS COMING UP SOON.
09:09:30 YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT THE BIG LEAGUE FISH CAMP, AND PEDESTRIAN
09:09:36 FRIENDLY, AND GRADE LEVEL, AND THAT SHOULD ALL UNDERGO
09:09:43 CONSTRUCTION IN AUGUST AND AT THE END OF AUGUST OPENING FOR
09:09:47 BUSINESS TO THE PUBLIC IN SEPTEMBER.
09:09:50 AND JW MARRIOTT IS DOING QUITE WELL.
09:10:01 SO LOTS OF PLANS.
09:10:04 SOUTH STREET PARKING LOT IS COMPLETE AND OPEN, AND JEFFERSON
09:10:09 STREET STORAGE IS THE AIR CONDITIONING STORAGE ACROSS FROM
09:10:12 BURGER KING.
09:10:14 APPROXIMATELY 11 STORIES WITH MINIMUM OFFICE
09:10:20 40% OF STORAGE RATIO PER CODE.
09:10:27 EAST HARRISON, 50% RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH,
09:10:30 MASSEY PARK AROUND THE CORNER IS WORKING WITH A DESIGN
09:10:37 CONSULTANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME UP WITH A GREAT
09:10:42 PLAN.
09:10:47 AND THE DOWNTOWNER ELECTRIC SHUTTLES WILL BE GOING BEFORE
09:10:54 THE CRA BOARD NEXT MONTH. SO ALL EXCITING THINGS.
09:10:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:59 ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?
09:11:00 NO? THANKS VERY MUCH.
09:11:05 WE WILL GO TO ITEM 4 SINCE THE MAYOR OF ST. PETE MAYOR
09:11:11 KRISEMAN.
09:11:14 MAYOR, WELCOME TO THE GREATEST CITY IN FLORIDA.
09:11:16 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
09:11:22 IT'S NICE TO BE WITH YOU HERE IN THE BEAUTIFUL TAMPA BAY
09:11:27 REGION, WHICH I THINK ALL OF US WOULD AGREE IS THE BEST
09:11:31 REGION IN THE ENTIRE STATE, THE COUNTRY, AND CERTAINLY THE
09:11:37 MOST COMPETITIVE.
09:11:39 HOW DO I GET THE POWER POINT UP HERE?
09:11:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE IT UP.
09:11:44 LET'S SEE IF FOLKS IN THE BACK CAN --
09:11:47 >> DO I NEED TO JUST ASK YOU TO SWITCH THE SLIDE OR DOES
09:11:51 THIS WORK?
09:11:58 WELL, I WAS HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
09:12:01 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE ABOUT THE CROSS BAY
09:12:05 FERRY AS WE ARE CALLING IT, ST. PETERSBURG TO TAMPA, 2.0.
09:12:13 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON MY SCREEN HERE.
09:12:19 SO THE ORIGINAL PILOT PROGRAM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WAS A
09:12:24 COLLABORATIVE EXPERIMENT BETWEEN THE CITIES OF
09:12:27 ST. PETERSBURG AND TAMPA, AND THE COUNTIES OF PINELLAS AND
09:12:29 HILLSBOROUGH, AND IT REALLY WAS INITIATED TO SEE IF WE CAN
09:12:35 DETERMINE IF PASSENGER FERRY SERVICE COULD BE SUSTAINED IN
09:12:38 THE FUTURE AS A VIABLE REGIONAL TRANSIT OPTION, AND I AGAIN
09:12:41 WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ORIGINAL
09:12:45 PILOT.
09:12:46 I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE NUMBERS, THE FINAL
09:12:49 NUMBERS THAT WE GOT IN, AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE
09:12:55 TO SEE THESE YOU WILL COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT WE
09:12:57 HAVE AND THAT THE FERRY REALLY EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS.
09:13:24 I CAN KEEP GOING.
09:13:25 THERE WE GO.
09:13:26 THE ORIGINAL ROUTE DOCKING POINTS WERE FROM DOWNTOWN
09:13:29 ST. PETERSBURG TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
09:13:37 WE STUDIED AND WANTED TO SEE WHERE DID THE PASSENGERS COME
09:13:40 FROM?
09:13:41 AND I THINK PROBABLY ALL OF US HAD IDEAS OF WHERE WE THOUGHT
09:13:44 EVERYBODY WAS GOING TO COME FROM.
09:13:46 BUT I WILL ADMIT TO BEING SURPRISED THAT IT WAS AS EVENLY
09:13:50 DIVIDED BETWEEN THOSE WHO RODE THE FERRY AT 50% ORIGINATED
09:13:55 THEIR TRIP IN ST. PETE AND 50% ORIGINATED THEIR TRIP IN
09:13:58 TAMPA.
09:13:59 90% OF THOSE WHO RODE THE FERRY IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS
09:14:06 RESIDENTS OF THE TAMPA BAY AREA, AND PEOPLE FROM 72% OF ALL
09:14:10 PINELLAS AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ZIP CODES USED THE FERRY AT
09:14:15 ONE POINT IN TIME DURING THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
09:14:20 WE HAD OVER 40,000 PASSENGERS USE THE FERRY BETWEEN NOVEMBER
09:14:24 OF 2016 THROUGH APRIL OF 2017 WITH THE HIGHEST PAID
09:14:31 RIDERSHIP OCCURRING IN APRIL OF 2017 WHEN WE HAD OVER 10,000
09:14:36 PASSENGERS RIDE THE FERRY.
09:14:39 IT WAS NICE TO SO THAT UPPER TREND.
09:14:41 IT REALLY STARTED IN JANUARY WHEN WE WERE FULLY, NO PUN
09:14:47 INTENDED, ON BOARD WITH REGULAR SERVICE, REGULAR PRICING AS
09:14:50 OPPOSED TO OFFERING SOME DISCOUNTS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT
09:14:53 OR FREE RIDES WHICH WE HAD IN NOVEMBER AND A LITTLE BIT OF
09:14:56 DECEMBER.
09:15:00 OUR STUDIES, THE SURVEYS SHOWED US THAT TWO THIRD OF THOSE
09:15:05 PASSENGERS WERE CONSIDERED NONCOMMUTER RIDERS WITH I REALLY
09:15:09 WERE WEEKEND SERVICE RIDERS WHILE A THIRD OF THE PASSENGERS
09:15:11 WERE CONSIDERED COMMUTERS.
09:15:13 WE GOING INTO THIS EXPECTED THE COMMUTER RIDERSHIP NUMBERS
09:15:17 TO BE LOWER, AND THE REASON WE EXPECTED THAT WAS WE KNEW
09:15:20 WITH ONLY ONE BOAT AND LIMITED SERVICE TIMES THAT IT WOULD
09:15:24 BE HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR CARS TO GO BACK AND
09:15:29 FORTH KNOWING THAT IF THEY MISSED THE FERRY IT WAS GOING TO
09:15:33 BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CATCH THE NEXT ONE.
09:15:36 AND SO WITHOUT HAVING MORE BOATS, GREATER FREQUENCY AND
09:15:42 RELIABILITY AS FAR AS TIMING GOES, WE KNEW THAT COMMUTER
09:15:44 SERVICE WOULD BE A BIT CHALLENGING.
09:15:47 CLEARLY, NONCOMMUTER SERVICE WAS NOT, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SAW
09:15:52 SO MANY PASSENGERS FOR NONCOMMUTER.
09:16:00 THIS NEXT SLIDE WAS SURPRISING AND INTERESTING.
09:16:03 THOSE HOW MANY POEM BROUGHT THEIR BIKES WITH THEM ON THE
09:16:06 BOAT SO THAT WHEN THEY GOT TO THEIR DESTINATION WHETHER IT
09:16:11 WAS HERE IN TAMPA OR IN ST. PETE THEY COULD REALLY ENJOY OUR
09:16:14 COMMUNITY BY BIKE.
09:16:15 WE SAW IT WAS OVER 900 WITH A STEADY INCREASE PRETTY MUCH
09:16:20 THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PILOT STUDY.
09:16:23 AND WITH AGAIN THE MOST BICYCLES BROUGHT ONBOARD IN APRIL,
09:16:28 234.
09:16:29 THE OTHER THING THAT WAS REALLY NICE IS THAT WHEN YOU GOT
09:16:32 OFF THE BOAT, WHETHER YOU WERE GETTING OFF IN ST. PETE OR IN
09:16:34 TAMPA, THERE WAS A BIKE SHARE STATION THERE.
09:16:38 AND IT WAS THE SAME COMPANY, ST. PETE AND TAMPA BOTH USE
09:16:43 COAST.
09:16:43 SO MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO USE IT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BAY AND
09:16:47 USE IT EASILY.
09:16:52 WHAT DID PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY GOT TO THEIR DESTINATION?
09:16:55 75% OF THOSE WENT ON TO HAVE DINNER.
09:16:58 30% WENT TO A MUSEUM.
09:17:00 28% SHOPPED.
09:17:01 14% WENT TO A SPORTING EVENT.
09:17:03 I AM GUESS I AM INCLUDED IN THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT A GREAT WAY
09:17:06 TO COME SEE A LIGHTNING GAME.
09:17:08 AND 19% SAID THEY RODE THE FERRY JUST BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO
09:17:13 RIDE THE FERRY AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND
09:17:16 GET TO SEE THE BEAUTY OF OUR TWO DOWNTOWNS FROM THE WATER,
09:17:20 WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T GET TO EXPERIENCE UNLESS
09:17:22 YOU ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN A BIKE.
09:17:25 AND SO THIS REALLY OPENED UP OUR TWO COMMUNITIES IN WAYS
09:17:29 THAT OTHERWISE THEY NECESSARILY WEREN'T AVAILABLE.
09:17:41 HOW DID PEOPLE RETURN TO THEIR PLACE OF ORIGIN?
09:17:44 WE WANTED TO SEE IF THEY TOOK THE FERRY OVER FROM ST. PETE
09:17:47 TO TAMPA, DID THEY TAKE IT BACK, OR DID THEY TAKE SOME OTHER
09:17:51 WAY?
09:17:51 AND WE SAW THAT 75% OF THOSE WHO WENT OVERUSING THE FERRY
09:17:56 CAME BACK TO THEIR ORGANIZATION DESTINATION BY FERRY WITH
09:18:01 ROUGHLY 17% USING SOME FORM OF RIDE SHARE.
09:18:08 AND THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT SLIDE.
09:18:10 WHY DID PEOPLE EVEN RIDE THE FERRY?
09:18:13 AND TWO-THIRDS OF THOSE SURVEYED SAID THEIR TRIP WAS INDUCED
09:18:18 BY THIS MODE OF TRANSPORTATION AND HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE
09:18:20 FERRY THEY OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE THE TRIP ACROSS THE
09:18:24 BAY.
09:18:25 ONE THIRD STATED THAT THEY USED THE FERRY INSTEAD OF THEIR
09:18:28 CAR TO MAKE A TRIP THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY PLANNED.
09:18:30 AND SO PART OF OUR GOAL WITH THE FERRY PROJECT WAS NOT ONLY
09:18:34 OPENING UP OUR TWO COMMUNITIES MORE SO, BUT ALSO TO HELP GET
09:18:40 PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND GETTING USED TO A DIFFERENT
09:18:43 MODE OF TRANSIT OTHER THAN SIMPLY RIDING IN A CAR.
09:18:50 THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE OF EVERY ONE THAT I AM
09:18:52 GOING TO SHOW YOU TODAY BECAUSE THIS BE IS WHAT WAS THE
09:18:55 LOCAL IMPACT ON OUR -- THE EARLY IMPACT ON OUR LOCAL
09:18:59 BUSINESSES?
09:19:00 WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID THIS PILOT, EACH OF OUR
09:19:04 COMMUNITIES ALL FOUR OF US PUT IN $350,000.
09:19:08 ROUGHLY 1.3 MILLION.
09:19:10 THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE MONEY THAT EACH OF US ENDED UP
09:19:13 GETTING BACK AT THE END OF THE SERVICE.
09:19:16 AND SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT INVESTING MONEY, YOU WANT TO
09:19:19 SEE A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT.
09:19:20 YOU WANT TO SEE THAT IT HAD SOME IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
09:19:24 AND WHAT THIS SLIDE SHOWS IS THAT IT DID HAVE THAT IMPACT.
09:19:28 THE MORE THAN 30% OF THE PASSENGERS SURVEYED, THE AVERAGE
09:19:32 AMOUNT THEY INDICATED THEY SPENT WAS MORE THAN 100 DOLLARS
09:19:36 PER PERSON.
09:19:37 SO WHEN WE EXTRAPOLATE THE AVERAGE SPENT BY ALL RESPONDENTS
09:19:42 VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS, WHAT WE SEE IS THAT 1.6
09:19:47 MILLION WAS SPENT IN OUR TWO COMMUNITIES.
09:19:49 SO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS FERRY WAS 1.6 MILLION, WHICH
09:19:53 IS MORE THAN IT COST US TO OPERATE THE FERRY.
09:19:58 AND IT'S RARE THAT YOU SEE A TRANSIT, A MODE OF TRANSIT THAT
09:20:03 ACTUALLY BRINGS YOU A RETURN THAT'S GREATER THAN WHAT IT
09:20:06 COST TO RUN IT.
09:20:10 WE ALSO LOOKED FROM A COST STANDPOINT THE FERRY COMPARED
09:20:14 WITH OTHER TRANSIT SERVICES.
09:20:18 LOOKING AT KING COUNTY FERRY, WHICH IS IN SEATTLE, WHICH HAS
09:20:21 BEEN A FERRY SERVICE IN PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, OUR
09:20:24 OPERATING EXPENSE PER MILE WAS LESS, IN FAIRNESS TO KING
09:20:29 COUNTY IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE BOAT AND THEY HAVE
09:20:31 MULTIPLES, BUT THE OTHER STATISTIC THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE
09:20:34 FAIR BOX RECOVERY, AND THAT WAS AT 41%.
09:20:37 THEN IF YOU COMPARED THAT TO PSTA AND HART, WHILE THE
09:20:41 SERVICE COST WAS A LITTLE BIT GREATER PER PASSENGER MILE,
09:20:45 THE FARE BOX RECOVERY RATIO FOR THE FERRY WAS DEFINITELY
09:20:50 BETTER.
09:20:54 WE LOOKED AT TRAVEL TIMES AND COMPARED -- HOW LONG DOES IT
09:20:59 TAKE TO DRIVE ACROSS VERSUS TO RIDE THE FERRY?
09:21:03 AND WHAT WE SAW WAS BETWEEN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, FOR
09:21:07 EXAMPLE, THE LONGEST DRIVE TIME WAS LONGER THAN THE LENGTH
09:21:14 OF TIME TO RIDE THE FERRY, AND QUITE FRANKLY IF YOU ARE
09:21:17 SITTING ON THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE FOR AN HOUR VERSUS
09:21:20 BEING IN A FERRY FOR 50 MINUTES ENJOYING THE WATER, MAYBE
09:21:24 HAVING A GLASS OF WINE OR BEER, I WOULD TAKE THE FERRY OVER
09:21:28 SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE.
09:21:34 WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THIS PILOT PROJECT?
09:21:36 WELL, OUR SURVEY, THE RESPONDENTS FROM THE SURVEY TOLD US
09:21:40 THERE WAS DEFINITELY A DEMAND FOR THIS SERVICE, THAT
09:21:43 COMMUTER SERVICE, IF FREQUENT AND RELIABLE AND PRICED RIGHT,
09:21:47 CAN BE VIABLE.
09:21:48 THE FARE BOX RECOVERY CAN BE HIGHER THAN TRADITIONAL TRANSIT
09:21:52 SERVICES, THAT THERE IS AN IDENTIFIABLE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND
09:21:57 BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITIES FROM THIS FORM OF TRANSIT.
09:22:00 AND THE PEOPLE ENJOYED IT AND WANTED TO RIDE IT AND WERE
09:22:04 HAPPY THAT THEY DID HAVE THAT CHANCE TO RIDE IT.
09:22:09 NOW WE GET TO WHAT'S NEXT?
09:22:10 AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I AM HERE TODAY BEFORE YOU FOR.
09:22:14 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS CONTINUING TO PURSUE A PERMANENT
09:22:16 FERRY SERVICE WHICH WOULD SERVE THE COMMUTERS FROM SOUTH
09:22:19 HILLSBOROUGH TO MacDILL DURING THE DAY AND COULD SERVE
09:22:23 OUR TWO DOWNTOWNS ON NIGHTS AND ON WEEKENDS.
09:22:27 SO WHILE THIS IS BEING PURSUED, WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO
09:22:32 CONTINUE TO HAVE A SEASONAL SERVICE BETWEEN OUR TWO
09:22:35 DOWNTOWNS, WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS SERVICE KIND OF A BRIDGE OR
09:22:41 SOMEONE DESCRIBED TO ME, AND I LOVE THIS DESCRIPTION, IT
09:22:44 WOULD ALMOST BE LIKE SPRING TRAINING GETTING YOU READY FOR
09:22:48 REGULAR SEASON IN BASEBALL. HAVING THAT SERVICE FOR THE
09:22:52 NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS POTENTIALLY UNTIL A FULL-TIME SERVICE
09:22:56 WITH MULTIPLE VESSELS COME ONBOARD IS A GREAT WAY OF GETTING
09:23:00 PEOPLE ACCUSTOMED TO RIDING A DIFFERENT FORM OF TRANSIT.
09:23:03 IT'S A GREAT WAY OF GETTING PEOPLE INTO OUR TWO DOWNTOWNS TO
09:23:06 ENJOY EVERYTHING THAT OUR DOWNTOWNS HAVE TO OFFER.
09:23:10 IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF CREATING THAT PARTNERSHIP AND TEARING
09:23:15 DOWN A BARRIER THAT'S EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME BETWEEN OUR
09:23:19 TWO COMMUNITIES, AND AGAIN BEING MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP
09:23:24 AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT COMPARED TO OUR FIRST SEASON, WE
09:23:29 WENT OUT TO RFP AGAIN, BECAUSE HAVING -- HAVING BEEN A PILOT
09:23:34 WE NEED TO DO AN RFP.
09:23:37 WE SELECTED HMS WHICH WAS THE SERVICE PROVIDER FOR THE
09:23:40 PILOT, AND AS A RESULT OF THE SUCCESS OF THE PILOT AND ALSO
09:23:46 OUR ABILITY TO OBTAIN SOME STATE GRANT DOLLARS, WE HAVE BEEN
09:23:50 ABLE TO REDUCE THE COST OF EACH OF THE PARTNER GOVERNMENTS
09:23:54 FROM WHAT WAS $350,000 TO 150,000 WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
09:24:00 REDUCTION IN JUST THE SECOND YEAR ALONE.
09:24:02 OBVIOUSLY, OUR HOPE IS THAT ONCE AGAIN WE SEE RIDERSHIP
09:24:10 NUMBERS INCREASE RESULTING IN US GETTING SOME MONEY BACK
09:24:13 AGAIN AT THE END OF THE SEASON, AND THEN IF WE ARE ALL HAPPY
09:24:15 ABOUT HOW IT WENT, LOOKING AT DOING ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS
09:24:19 OF SERVICE UNTIL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SERVICE IS FULLY UP AND
09:24:24 RUNNING.
09:24:25 AND I AM LOOKING -- WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR YOU ALL TODAY IS A
09:24:30 SIGN THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF US MOVING FORWARD.
09:24:32 WE ARE OBLIGATED TO NOTIFY HMS BY THE 1st OF AUGUST IF
09:24:38 WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN ORDER TO RESERVE THE VESSEL THAT
09:24:42 WE USED LAST PILOT TO GET THAT SAME VESSEL BACK AGAIN, SO
09:24:46 SOMEBODY ELSE DOESN'T GRAB IT.
09:24:48 IT'S NOT RUNNING IN BOSTON BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND APRIL.
09:24:54 NO ONE WANTS TO RIDE A FERRY IN BOSTON IN FEBRUARY WHICH I
09:24:57 UNDERSTAND.
09:24:58 AND SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS JUST SUPPORT FROM THIS
09:25:02 BODY.
09:25:03 WE HAVE RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM ST. PETERSBURG, PINELLAS,
09:25:09 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES, AND YOU ARE THE LAST BODY I HAVE THE
09:25:12 PLEASURE OF APPEARING BEFORE, AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
09:25:15 QUESTIONS, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU ALL'S
09:25:19 SUPPORT.
09:25:19 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:25:20 >>HARRY COHEN: SINCE YOU ARE ASKING FOR THAT LET ME ASK A
09:25:26 SPECIFIC QUESTION.
09:25:26 MY UNDERSTANDING IS, I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR INDICATED SUPPORT
09:25:29 FOR THIS COMING OUT OF A CRA.
09:25:35 IS THAT CORRECT?
09:25:38 >> IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR THIS WAS FUNDED OUT OF THE
09:25:41 DOWNTOWN CRA.
09:25:42 AND RIGHT NOW, WE ARE EXPLORING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
09:25:45 LOCATIONS AS THE TERMINUS FOR THE FERRY, AND WHAT COULD
09:25:51 POSSIBLY BE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
09:25:52 AND THE DOWNTOWN CAC HAS ALREADY BEEN POLLED AND THEY ARE
09:25:56 VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
09:25:58 AND I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED -- ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE ABOUT
09:26:05 TRANSPORTATION.
09:26:05 SO IN TERMS OF -- MAYOR KRISEMAN'S REQUEST, IT WOULD
09:26:11 PROBABLY BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT BY WAY
09:26:13 OF A RESOLUTION OR SOME STATEMENT?
09:26:16 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: PLEASE.
09:26:19 AND AGAIN THAT'S WHY HE WAS INVITED TO THE CRA MEETING AS
09:26:23 OPPOSED TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:26:25 AGAIN BECAUSE THIS IS THE BOARD THAT APPROVED IT LAST TIME.
09:26:28 AND THESE ARE THE CACs THAT FELT IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE USE
09:26:34 OF THEIR TIF DOLLARS.
09:26:35 >> MR. REDDICK, WERE YOU REFERRING TO ITEM NUMBER 7?
09:26:41 10. OKAY, GOT IT.
09:26:43 THANK YOU.
09:26:43 I'M SORRY.
09:26:44 I WAS LOOKING AT 7.
09:26:47 I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WAS.
09:26:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: [OFF MICROPHONE] THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR
09:26:53 BEING HERE.
09:26:54 AND LET ME ASK YOU.
09:26:55 BETWEEN TAMPA AND ST. PETE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE EMPLOYED
09:27:00 WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM?
09:27:03 >> WERE EMPLOYED?
09:27:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: CORRECT.
09:27:05 >> AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
09:27:07 THE NUMBER I WILL GIVE YOU IS MY ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY WORKED
09:27:10 ON THE VESSEL ITSELF.
09:27:14 I WOULD SAY PROBABLY LESS THAN 20 OVERALL BETWEEN CREW
09:27:18 AND -- MULTIPLE CREWS, PILOT, AND ANYBODY WHO DID
09:27:23 MAINTENANCE ON THE VESSEL.
09:27:25 THE REAL IMPACT IS ON THE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT IN THE
09:27:28 COMMUNITIES IN PLACES THAT EMPLOY PEOPLE.
09:27:31 AND THAT'S WHERE THE REAL IMPACT IS.
09:27:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU CONSIDER THAT A WISE INVESTMENT OF
09:27:39 $600,000?
09:27:40 >> AGAIN I BELIEVE THE REAL IMPACT ISN'T NECESSARILY ON THE
09:27:44 PEOPLE THAT ARE DIRECTLY EMPLOYED BY THE FERRY SERVICE.
09:27:46 I THINK IT'S ON THE TWO COMMUNITIES AND THE RESOURCES THAT
09:27:50 GET EXPENDED IN THE TWO COMMUNITIES THAT OTHERWISE AS OUR
09:27:53 SURVEY REFLECTED MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN SPENT.
09:27:56 AND SO IF YOU GOT 75% OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOING TO A
09:28:00 RESTAURANT THAT END UP GOING TO THAT RESTAURANT THAT
09:28:03 OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE GONE, WHICH MEANS THAT INCOME WOULD
09:28:06 HAVE COME INTO THAT RESTAURANT, THOSE SERVERS WOULDN'T HAVE
09:28:10 GOTTEN THOSE TIPS, THAT'S WHERE YOUR REAL IMPACT IS.
09:28:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU, HOW MANY AUTOMOBILES ARE
09:28:15 TAKEN OFF THE STREET BETWEEN TAMPA AND ST. PETE BASED ON
09:28:18 THIS?
09:28:19 >> I DON'T -- THAT NUMBER I DON'T KNOW.
09:28:22 THE ONLY STATISTIC I CAN GIVE YOU IN RESPONSE TO THAT WAS
09:28:28 TWO-THIRDS OF THOSE SURVEYED, AND THAT'S OUT OF 40,000
09:28:32 PEOPLE THAT RODE THE FERRY, TWO-THIRDS SAID THAT THEY WOULD
09:28:36 NOT HAVE EVEN MADE THE TRIP WITHOUT THE FERRY, AND A THIRD
09:28:40 OF THEM SAID THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY USED THE FERRY INSTEAD
09:28:43 OF THEIR CARS.
09:28:44 SO IF YOU JUST USE THOSE NUMBERS ALONE, AND JUST USE THE ONE
09:28:48 THIRD, A THIRD OF 40,000, ABOUT 12,000 PEOPLE THAT DID NOT
09:28:54 USE A VEHICLE INSTEAD USED THE FERRY.
09:28:57 SO THEY WERE TAKEN OFF THE ROAD.
09:28:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: MY FINAL QUESTION IS, HMS, YOU INDICATED
09:29:06 OUT OF BOSTON?
09:29:09 >> THAT'S WHERE THE BOAT THAT WE USED THE FIRST TIME AND WE
09:29:12 WILL BE USING AGAIN THIS TIME.
09:29:13 IT'S THEIR BOAT IN BOSTON.
09:29:15 THEY OPERATE THE FERRY SERVICE IN BOSTON.
09:29:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO THERE'S NO BOAT OPERATOR OF A FERRY IN
09:29:22 THE STATE OF FLORIDA?
09:29:23 >> IF THERE ARE, THEY DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR RFP.
09:29:27 WE DID GET A SECOND RESPONSE, BUT IN REVIEWING THE TWO
09:29:30 RESPONSES, HMS'S PROPOSAL WAS FAR SUPERIOR AND WAS MUCH MORE
09:29:36 AGGRESSIVE FINANCIALLY REDUCING OUR COSTS.
09:29:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS THE OPERATOR
09:29:46 COME TO FLORIDA, BE HERE FOR SO MANY MONTHS, AND GO BACK TO
09:29:56 BOSTON WITHOUT SPENDING A DIME IN YOUR CITY OR OUR CITY?
09:30:00 >> WELL, THE FOLKS, THEY HIRE SOME OF THEM FROM THE AREA,
09:30:03 SOME OF THEM COME DOWN WITH THE BOAT, AND THEY ARE SPENDING
09:30:07 MONEY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:30:08 HMS IS ALSO, I BELIEVE, THE SERVICE PROVIDER THAT
09:30:12 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS LOOKING AT FOR THEIR PERMANENT
09:30:15 SERVICE.
09:30:15 SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE PERMANENTLY IN THIS COUNTY.
09:30:19 YOU KNOW, THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE MAKING AN
09:30:21 INVESTMENT IN THIS COUNTY IN THEIR EFFORTS.
09:30:24 AND THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY HERE AS A COMPANY IN ORDER TO
09:30:28 RUN THE FERRY SERVICE.
09:30:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS
09:30:34 REQUEST WHEN WE HAVE A MAJOR CHALLENGE IN THIS CITY WHERE
09:30:44 THOSE CRA DOLLARS CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
09:30:47 AND TO BE PUTTING IN A FERRY WHERE 99% OF PEOPLE IN MY
09:30:53 DISTRICT DOESN'T EVEN RIDE, IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY WHAT WE ARE
09:30:58 SPENDING $350,000.
09:31:02 SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
09:31:04 THANK YOU.
09:31:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE MR. REDDICK, I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT
09:31:10 THE FIRST TIME.
09:31:11 AND THE FIRST TIME CAME FROM CITY FUND, NOT FROM CRA.
09:31:15 AM I CORRECT?
09:31:17 >> NO, SIR.
09:31:23 CRA.
09:31:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THIS FERRY GOES FROM SALEM TO
09:31:26 BOSTON?
09:31:27 >> FROM BOSTON TO PROVINCETOWN.
09:31:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 55 MINUTE.
09:31:33 THERE'S THREE CHARGES FOR THAT, IN 2012 THERE WAS A CHARGE
09:31:40 FOR ONE FERRY FOR $17 IF YOU WERE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
09:31:43 >> NOT HERE.
09:31:44 >> CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I DIDN'T SAY HERE.
09:31:47 UP IN THE BOSTON AREA.
09:31:49 $19, SOMETHING LIKE THE COUNTY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
09:31:53 IT, IF YOU HAVE AN ID.
09:31:58 AND I TOOK THE TRAIN FROM SALEM TO BOSTON, SO THAT'S HALF OF
09:32:06 THAT.
09:32:09 AND I REALIZE WHY.
09:32:11 AND YOU CAN CHECK ALL OF THIS.
09:32:14 THE SALEM NEWSPAPER WROTE AN ARTICLE ON THE FERRY, AND
09:32:19 SUBSIDIZED BY THAT ENTITY, THE GOVERNMENT, FOR $700,000 A
09:32:23 YEAR.
09:32:24 AND MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS FIRST OF ALL I DON'T THINK IT'S
09:32:27 ALL TRANSPORTATION.
09:32:29 I DON'T THINK IT HAS A MIRROR OF ANY TRANSPORTATION.
09:32:35 LAST TIME WE GOT A CHECK FOR $25,000, I THINK IT WAS.
09:32:40 >> I THINK IT WAS 40,000.
09:32:41 >> WHATEVER IT WAS. BUT IF I DID THAT I WOULD BE OUT OF
09:32:43 BUSINESS IN TWO DAYS.
09:32:44 SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SO TIRED OF GOVERNMENT PUTTING MONEY
09:32:49 IN SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK, WHEN YOU HAVE A REFERENDUM
09:32:53 COMING UP, MAYBE IN TRANSPORTATION, AND YOU HAVE SO MANY
09:32:56 THINGS GOING ON, PEOPLE GET CONFUSED.
09:33:01 YOU MUST NARROW IT DOWN TO WHAT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN
09:33:07 RIDERSHIP AND THIS IS IT.
09:33:13 THE ITEM, NOW IT'S 500 THAT YOU, 350,000 THE FIRST TIME, AND
09:33:18 150,000 THIS TIME, THAT'S HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
09:33:23 FROM EVERY ENTITY TIMES FOUR.
09:33:25 THAT'S $2 MILLION.
09:33:28 IT'S GONE BYE-BYE IN MY OPINION.
09:33:32 I MENTIONED WHAT YOU -- I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU MENTIONED AND
09:33:35 I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.
09:33:36 BUT I JUST GET SO MANY CALLS AT THE OFFICE, PEOPLE HAVE A
09:33:41 LEAKY ROOF WHEN IT RAINS AND WE DON'T HAVE THE -- THEY DON'T
09:33:45 HAVE THE MONEY TO FIX IT.
09:33:47 THEY ARE BROKE.
09:33:47 IF NOT THEY WOULDN'T BE CALLING US.
09:33:49 AND I HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE A FERRY FOR A JOY RIDE?
09:33:53 THAT'S WHAT IT IS IN ESSENCE.
09:33:55 I DON'T SEE THIS AT ALL.
09:33:58 AND I TOLD IT PRIVATELY TO THE MAYOR.
09:34:03 I CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
09:34:05 I ADMIRE YOU.
09:34:06 I LIKE WHAT YOU DO.
09:34:07 BUT I JUST CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS.
09:34:10 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:34:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:34:13 YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION BUDGET
09:34:20 DOLLARS AS OPPOSED TO CRA DOLLARS.
09:34:21 I THINK FOR ME THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS.
09:34:24 BUT THAT BEING SAID, I CERTAINLY ECHO SOME OF THE CONCERNS
09:34:28 BY MY COLLEAGUES, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN REDDICK
09:34:32 BUT ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN REDDICK ALLUDED TO
09:34:35 LAST YEAR AS HE MAKES REFERENCE TO THIS YEAR WHICH IS THIS
09:34:38 ESSENTIALLY BEING A DOWNTOWN THING, I GUESS.
09:34:42 IF YOU POINTED TO EAST TAMPA, I WOULD POINT TO MY DISTRICT
09:34:45 WHICH IS NORTH OF NEW TAMPA.
09:34:46 SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. MAYOR -- AND BY THE WAY, THANK
09:34:50 YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
09:34:52 WE ALL APPRECIATE IT 100% -- IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE
09:34:55 THAT GOING FORWARD THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY NOT JUST GET
09:35:00 THE BENEFIT OF THIS, NOT JUST GET THE USE OF IT BUT THE
09:35:02 PROMOTIONAL VALUE OF IT?
09:35:03 YOU TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT IN NEW TAMPA A
09:35:08 LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE BEING SOLICITED FOR THE FERRY, THEY
09:35:12 ARE NOT THE ONES THEY FEEL ARE BEING TARGETED FOR THE FERRY,
09:35:15 ET CETERA.
09:35:16 WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THIS POTENTIAL MODE OF TRANSPORTATION
09:35:19 MORE ACCESSIBLE TO OTHER PARTS OF OUR RESPECTIVE CITIES?
09:35:24 >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
09:35:25 I THINK WHAT THE STATISTICS SHOW YOU BASED ON RIDERSHIP
09:35:28 NUMBERS IS THAT THE MORE THE FERRY SERVICE OPERATED, THE
09:35:32 MORE PEOPLE BECAME AWARE THAT IT WAS EVEN OPERATING, YOUR
09:35:38 RIDERSHIP NUMBERS WENT UP.
09:35:39 AND I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, THIS WAS A PILOT, IT WAS A
09:35:42 SIX MONTH PILOT THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, AND SO OUR
09:35:48 EXPECTATIONS OF RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ACTUALLY WERE FAR LESS
09:35:53 THAN THIS.
09:35:53 IT EXCEED WAD OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE.
09:35:57 HMS IS CONFIDENT ENOUGH IN SEEING THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO
09:36:02 GROW THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN ON MORE OF THE RISK, AND THAT'S
09:36:06 THE REASON THAT YOU SAW THE COST TO ALL OF US GO DOWN FROM
09:36:09 350 TO BE 150.
09:36:11 OUR HOPE IS THAT WE SEE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS CONTINUE TO
09:36:15 INCREASE.
09:36:16 I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT AND HMS IS DOING THE MARKETING ONCE
09:36:20 AGAIN FOR THE SERVICE, BUT WE CERTAINLY ON OUR SIDE OF THE
09:36:24 BAY WILL BE USING OUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE
09:36:27 PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THE SERVICE IS AVAILABLE.
09:36:30 WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THE PRICE POINT TO BRING THE
09:36:33 PRICING DOWN AND TO OFFER DISCOUNTS FOR VETERANS, FOR
09:36:37 SENIORS, FOR CHILDREN, SO THAT THE BECOMES MORE AFFORDABLE
09:36:41 EVEN -- IT ONE OF THE LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED AND WE THINK
09:36:45 THAT MAKES IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.
09:36:47 SO I THINK IT'S DOING A COMBINATION OF DOING A BETTER JOB
09:36:50 CONTINUING TO MARKET IT SO THAT EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE
09:36:52 COMMUNITY IN ALL OF TAMPA AND ALL OF ST. PETE UNDERSTAND
09:36:56 THAT THE SERVICE IS AVAILABLE, AND IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE WAY
09:36:59 FOR THEM WHETHER THEY JUST WANT TO GO TO THE DOWNTOWN OR
09:37:02 THEY WANT TO GO TO A RAYS GAME OR TO A LIGHTNING GAME OR TO
09:37:06 A CONCERT OR JUST GET SOMETHING TO EAT, THAT THIS IS AN
09:37:09 ALTERNATIVE WAY OF THEM GETTING BACK AND FORTH.
09:37:13 AND THEN AGAIN, THE OTHER STATISTIC THAT I THINK IS
09:37:16 IMPORTANT IS 72% OF ALL THE ZIP CODES IN YOUR COUNTY RODE
09:37:24 THE BOAT, LIKEWISE IN MY COUNTY IN MY AREA, IN MY CITY.
09:37:30 PRETTY HIGH.
09:37:30 >>LUIS VIERA: AND YOU ARE COMING TO US WITH A SMALLER ASK
09:37:34 OF ABOUT 40% OF WHAT WAS APPROVED THE LAST TIME AROUND.
09:37:38 IS THIS PART OF AN FDOT GRANT?
09:37:42 >> SOME OF IT IS.
09:37:43 WE DO HAVE SOME FDOT DOLLARS BUT THE PROVIDER IS TAKEN ON A
09:37:51 LITTLE MORE OF A RISK BECAUSE IT'S A KNOWN ENTITY.
09:37:54 OUR EXPECTATION IS EVERY YEAR THIS IS IN OPERATION THAT WE
09:37:56 SEE RIDERSHIP CONTINUE TO GROW.
09:37:59 AND THE HOPE IS THAT THIS IS LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE
09:38:03 PERMANENT SERVICE.
09:38:04 AND I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS THE SOLUTION TO
09:38:08 OUR TRANSIT PROBLEMS.
09:38:09 IT'S NOT.
09:38:11 IT IS A PART OF THE SOLUTION.
09:38:13 I BELIEVE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE TRANSIT PROBLEMS
09:38:18 THAT EXIST IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION THAT EXIST IN THE STATE
09:38:21 OF FLORIDA, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
09:38:23 TRANSIT OPTIONS AND MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
09:38:27 IT ISN'T JUST GOING TO BE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIGHT RAIL, OR BE
09:38:31 BRT.
09:38:32 IT'S GOING TO BE HAVING A NUMBER OF THINGS AVAILABLE, AND
09:38:35 OPTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN CHOSE AND HAVE AVAILABLE TO
09:38:38 THEM.
09:38:38 >>LUIS VIERA: NOW WHAT ARE YOUR SUGGESTIONS, MR. MAYOR, IN
09:38:42 TERMS OF GOING FORWARD AND MAKING THIS SERVICE NOT JUST MORE
09:38:45 ROBUST, BUT SO THAT IT'S NOT SO DEPENDENT ON LOCAL
09:38:52 GOVERNMENT DOLLARS?
09:38:54 FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE BEING ASKED FOR 40% OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR
09:38:57 LAST TIME, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS HELPING TO OFFSET THAT, BUT
09:39:00 HOW CAN WE MOVE THIS FORWARD SO THAT THE USERS --
09:39:06 >> YES, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL, IS TO TRY
09:39:09 TO CONTINUE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT THE GOVERNMENTS ARE
09:39:13 BEING ASKED TO PUT IN.
09:39:15 AND I THINK YOU DO THAT WITH INCREASED RIDERSHIP, WHAT'S
09:39:19 GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT.
09:39:21 BUT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SPECIAL
09:39:23 EVENTS AND SPONSORSHIP.
09:39:27 IF I AM GOING TO BE VERY HONEST, WHICH I AM GOING TO BE WITH
09:39:29 YOU ALL, THE REALITY IS THAT TRANSIT RARELY EVER COMPLETELY
09:39:34 PAYS FOR ITSELF.
09:39:37 I MONEY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
09:39:40 BUT I CAN'T THINK OF VERY MANY ROADS THAT EVER FULLY PAY FOR
09:39:44 THEMSELVES.
09:39:45 BUT YET WE AS GOVERNMENT, WE SUBSIDIZE, WE PAY FOR THAT, AND
09:39:49 WE DO THAT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WE DO
09:39:52 THAT BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
09:39:53 WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY IF WE
09:39:57 DON'T HAVE A MORE ROBUST TRANSIT SERVICE.
09:40:00 THIS IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE IT BUT IT IS A STEP IN THE
09:40:03 DIRECTION TOWARD GETTING TO SOLUTIONS.
09:40:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
09:40:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS AND THE ANSWERS
09:40:13 HERE.
09:40:13 I WILL TELL YOU THAT I VOTED FOUR TIMES, THREE TIMES JUST TO
09:40:19 EXPERIENCE IT AND TIME IT AND JUST GET AN IDEA HOW IT WILL
09:40:24 WORK, AND THE FOURTH TIME IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE
09:40:27 THANKSGIVING, AND I BROUGHT A PERSON FROM NORTH TAMPA WITH
09:40:31 ME, I BROUGHT A PERSON FROM WEST TAMPA WITH ME, A PERSON
09:40:34 FROM SOUTH TAMPA, AND WE HAD COCKTAILS AND HORS D'OEUVRES
09:40:42 HERE, WENT OUT ON THE FERRY, WE WENT SHOPPING.
09:40:46 SO BOTH SIDES APPRECIATED THE BUSINESS THAT CAME FROM THAT
09:40:49 EXPERIENCE.
09:40:50 THE OTHER THING IS, FLORIDA IS THE NUMBER ONE TOURIST
09:40:53 DESTINATION IN THE WORLD.
09:40:56 IN THE WORLD.
09:40:58 SO IF WE HAVE DURING THE WINTER PEOPLE COMING IN AND THEY
09:41:04 ARE RIDING, THEY ARE SUBSIDIZING WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO
09:41:08 FOR TRANSPORTATION.
09:41:09 YES, I WOULD LOVE TO RIDE A TRAIN.
09:41:11 WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
09:41:13 WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
09:41:17 AND I AGREE, I DON'T KNOW OF A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THAT
09:41:25 PAYS FOR ITSELF.
09:41:27 DO YOU?
09:41:28 DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE ANY IDEA?
09:41:32 NEVER HAS.
09:41:33 AND I DON'T THINK IT EVER WILL.
09:41:41 THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION.
09:41:43 SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
09:41:48 WE HAVE TO -- THERE'S NOT ONE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
09:41:52 EVERYBODY REALIZES THERE'S NOT ONE WAY WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE
09:41:54 THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE IN THIS AREA WITH ONE MODE, NOT
09:42:00 TRAIN, NOT EXPRESSWAY, NOT FERRY.
09:42:04 IT'S A COMBINATION.
09:42:05 AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IT WILL TAKE.
09:42:08 SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS, AT LEAST FOR ONE MORE YEAR.
09:42:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:42:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:42:18 IT'S THE SECOND WOKE IN A WROTE THAT WE HAD A MAYOR HERE,
09:42:21 ONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOR HIS BUDGET PRESENTATION
09:42:24 LAST WEEK.
09:42:25 AND, YOU KNOW, THE FERRY LAST YEAR, WHEN ALL FOUR ENTITIES
09:42:31 WITH PUT $350,000, OBVIOUSLY WAS AN EXPERIMENT, WE KNEW
09:42:36 GOING IN, AND I THINK THAT BOTH MYSELF AND MR. MIRANDA
09:42:39 QUESTIONED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF RIDERS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE.
09:42:42 I'M NOT SURE WE EXCEEDED WHERE WE WERE AT.
09:42:45 I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY CLOSER TO WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS
09:42:48 GOING TO BE.
09:42:48 I DON'T THINK IT PAID FOR ITSELF.
09:42:53 FRANKLY IT DOESN'T.
09:42:54 AND I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IF WE
09:42:58 WANT TO CONTINUE THIS AFTER THE SECOND YEAR.
09:43:00 NOW, I THINK I GOT THE MATH RIGHT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:43:04 IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, THE $600,000 OF THE TOTAL THAT'S GOING
09:43:08 TO COME IN IS GOING TO COME THROUGH THE TAMPA, ST. PETE,
09:43:13 HILLSBOROUGH, PINELLAS, AND WE ARE GETTING ABOUT $717,000 OR
09:43:17 SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FROM FDOT FOR THE REMAINING
09:43:20 AMOUNT, AND WE ARE BACK TO KIND WHEREOF WE WERE AT LAST
09:43:23 YEAR, ABOUT 1.3 MILLION.
09:43:25 >> WELL, WE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING THE -- SPLITTING IT IN
09:43:30 THREE.
09:43:31 OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE SEE THIS GROW, THIS
09:43:35 INVESTMENT.
09:43:35 SO IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SECOND OR THIRD YEAR WE WANTED
09:43:38 TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE SOME DOLLARS TO HELP OFFSET AGAIN
09:43:41 THE COSTS.
09:43:42 AND SO OUR PLAN WAS NOT TO UTILIZE THE FULL IN ONE YEAR.
09:43:49 WAS TO USE IT A THIRD, A THIRD, AND A THIRD POTENTIALLY.
09:43:53 >> IS IT A SPLIT OF 2.1 MILLION OR A SPLIT OF 700,000?
09:43:58 >> NO, THE 700 -- OH, I'M SORRY.
09:44:03 FOR FDOT, FDOT'S MONEY IS BEING SPLIT A THIRD, A THIRD, A
09:44:07 THIRD.
09:44:07 >> BUT WHAT'S THE TOTAL THAT FDOT WAS GOING TO GIVE?
09:44:10 IS IT 2.1 MILLION?
09:44:12 >> NO, NO, I THINK IF I REMEMBER FDOT'S MONEY IS MORE ALONG
09:44:15 THE LINES PER YEAR OF ABOUT 170.
09:44:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO IT'S LESS THAN ONE BECAUSE IT WAS
09:44:22 REPORTED THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE US 700,000.
09:44:25 BUT I REALIZE -- YES, OKAY.
09:44:29 SO THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THEN IS CLOSER TO ABOUT
09:44:31 800, $900,000.
09:44:34 THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT WE ARE GIVING TO THE PROVIDER, AND
09:44:37 THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, ABOUT $250,000 OR SOMEWHERE IN
09:44:41 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:44:42 LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR.
09:44:44 DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT?
09:44:45 >> THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
09:44:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
09:44:49 THAT YOU KNOW, I'M A BELIEVER IN PROVIDING -- AGAIN, I'M NOT
09:44:59 SURE IF IT'S SOMETHING US WHAT DON'T SHARE.
09:45:01 >> IT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE IS THEY'RE WAS ROUGHLY
09:45:04 ABOUT 44,000 THAT EACH GOVERNMENT GOT BACK LAST YEAR.
09:45:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
09:45:11 SO I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG BELIEVER IN TRYING ALL KIND OF
09:45:14 DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS.
09:45:16 I THINK THAT IT'S A VERY SMART IDEA TO NOT USE IT AS A
09:45:20 COMMUTER.
09:45:21 THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH COMMUTER IS THAT YOU REALLY
09:45:24 WON'T GET TO -- YOU WEREN'T HAVING THE SOLUTION TO GET TO
09:45:29 THE LAST MILE, FIRST MILE WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO YOUR OFFICE
09:45:32 OR ANY OTHER PLACE TO VISIT CLIENTS OR SOMETHING.
09:45:36 AND I'M GLAD IT'S BEEN ELIMINATED.
09:45:38 THE SUCCESS WAS ALWAYS ON THE WEEKEND SERVICE.
09:45:41 BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK NOW, AS YOUR ROLE ON TBARTA,
09:45:47 AS YOU NOTIFY WAS A MEMBER OF IT BEFORE THEY RECONSTITUTED
09:45:50 IT, AND I THINK WHEN THEY RECONNAISSANCE SUBSTITUTED THE
09:45:52 TBARTA BOARD IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAD THE LEADERS OF
09:45:57 ST. PETERSBURG AND TAMPA AND THE COUNTIES, SO THAT THEY COME
09:46:02 UP WITH A WAY OF OPERATING THESE TYPE OF SYSTEMS THAT ARE
09:46:05 BETWEEN OUR COUNTIES, BETWEEN OUR CITIES.
09:46:08 I TRULY BELIEVE THAT FDOT HAS TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR PAYING
09:46:13 FOR THIS AND NOT TO COME TO EACH ONE OF US, ONE OF OUR
09:46:16 CITIES INDIVIDUALLY, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CITY OF
09:46:21 ST. PETE OR THE CITY OF TAMPA WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART
09:46:24 OF THE FERRY SYSTEM, THEY CAN IMPROVE THOSE FIRST MILE LAST
09:46:30 MILE SOLUTIONS.
09:46:31 WE CAN USE THAT $150,000 TO EXPAND OUR DOWNTOWNER, FOR
09:46:35 EXAMPLE, IF IT LANDS IN DOWNTOWN OR IF IT LANDS IN
09:46:38 CHANNELSIDE, AND BE ABLE TO REALLY CONNECT THE FERRY SERVICE
09:46:43 COMING FROM ST. PETE TO THE REST OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, AND
09:46:46 THAT WILL ACTUALLY IMPROVE SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
09:46:49 AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, CREATING THE
09:46:52 JOBS OF PEOPLE THAT COMING IN, THE TOURISM, THINGS LIKE
09:46:55 THAT.
09:46:55 BUT I THINK THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON YOU AS A MEMBER OF
09:46:58 TBARTA AND THE TBARTA BOARD, THE REST OF THE MEMBERS, TO
09:47:02 REALLY COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION FOR THE FUNDING OF
09:47:04 THIS, BECAUSE IT IS A BENEFIT TO BOTH COUNTIES, BOTH CITIES,
09:47:10 AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXPANSION TO CLEARWATER OR FROM
09:47:16 SOUTH COUNTY OR ANYTHING ELSE, THEN EACH ONE OF THOSE
09:47:18 ENTITIES CAN THEN PUT MONEY INTO IT TO IMPROVE IT.
09:47:23 I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS AS A LAST YEAR OF THIS.
09:47:26 I WON'T BE HERE NEXT YEAR TO VOTE ON IT, AN ADDITIONAL ASK.
09:47:30 YOU WILL BUT I WON'T.
09:47:31 SO I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE SOLUTION HAS TO COME FROM
09:47:35 TBARTA.
09:47:36 IT SHOULD NOT BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COMING OVER HERE TO ASK US
09:47:40 FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS OR THE COUNTY, BECAUSE I REALLY
09:47:43 BELIEVE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO -- INTERCOUNTY, THAT WE TRY
09:47:50 TO DO THAT KIND OF SOLUTION, WE SHOULD HAVE A STATE AGENCY
09:47:53 WHICH IS CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PURPOSE TO PROVIDE
09:47:57 THOSE DOLLARS, AND THE STATE SHOULD ALLOW TBARTA TO EITHER
09:48:01 FIND A SOLUTION THEMSELVES AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD, OR TO BE
09:48:06 A BIG PART OF IT.
09:48:07 AND IF THAT INCLUDES TOUR I.DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS WHICH IS
09:48:12 PART WHEREOF WE GET SOME MONEY FROM PINELLAS, HILLSBOROUGH
09:48:16 AND FROM THE STATE FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING SHOULD
09:48:18 BE LOOKED AT AND NOT TO COME BACK TO US NEXT YEAR FOR THE
09:48:22 SAME ASK.
09:48:23 AND I THINK YOU KNOW THIS AND IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU
09:48:26 ARE DEALING WITH A BUDGET AND LOOKING AT YOUR CRA DOLLARS,
09:48:29 YOU KNOW, THEY ARE VERY PRECIOUS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE USE
09:48:32 THOSE FOR AND WHAT WE WANT TO USE THOSE FOR. SO WE NEED TO
09:48:35 BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT IT.
09:48:36 THE 350 TO ME WAS I VOTED FOR IT.
09:48:41 I WAS FINE STARTING AND HAPPY IT'S NOT A 350 ASK THIS YEAR.
09:48:45 I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY VOTED AGAINST IT.
09:48:47 BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO FIND A BETTER SOLUTION THAN GOING
09:48:50 TO EACH ONE OF THESE COUNTIES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.
09:48:55 I'M SURE YOU ARE AGREEMENT N AGREEMENT AND SOME OF THE
09:48:58 DISCUSSIONS WE HAD ON TBARTA WHEN WE SERVED TOGETHER IS HOW
09:49:02 YOU MAKE A REGIONAL SYSTEM, AND THIS IS A PERFECT
09:49:05 OPPORTUNITY FOR TBARTA.
09:49:08 BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.
09:49:09 THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
09:49:10 THANKS FOR CLEARING UP THAT FDOT MONEY BECAUSE I WAS A
09:49:16 LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE REPORT THAT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPERS.
09:49:18 >> AND I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
09:49:21 EXCUSE ME.
09:49:23 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE STATE BE MORE INVOLVED IN PROVIDING
09:49:26 FOR REGIONAL SYSTEMS.
09:49:30 THERE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE BRT SYSTEM
09:49:35 FROM WESLEY CHAPEL THROUGH TAMPA AND THEN DOWN TO
09:49:38 ST. PETERSBURG.
09:49:40 AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO START SOLVING OUR
09:49:43 TRANSIT CHALLENGES, IS BY WORKING REGIONALLY TOE TRY TO COME
09:49:47 UP WITH SOLUTIONS.
09:49:48 I WOULD MUCH RATHER NOT BE HAVING TO DO THIS AND COME BEFORE
09:49:52 YOU, BELIEVE ME, AND IF IT HAD BEEN A 350,000 I WOULD NOT BE
09:49:57 STANDING HERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I KNOW MY COUNCIL WOULDN'T
09:50:02 APPROVED IT.
09:50:02 I WOULDN'T EXPECTED YOU TO APPROVE IT OR EITHER ONE OF THE
09:50:06 COUNTY COMMISSIONS TO APPROVE IT.
09:50:08 SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
09:50:10 AND I THINK WE ALL SHARE THE SAME DESIRES AND GOALS.
09:50:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR.
09:50:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAY HAVE TOLD THIS STORY LAST YEAR
09:50:18 WHEN YOU WERE HERE.
09:50:19 BUT ONE NIGHT I TOOK THE FERRY FROM HERE TO ST. PETE, AND
09:50:26 USING YOUR SHUTTLE SERVICE, I HAD DINNER AT A RESTAURANT ON
09:50:32 CENTRAL AVENUE, AND THEN I WENT TO A BASEBALL GAME.
09:50:34 SO MONEY WAS SPENT ON MY END, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR COUNTY, IN
09:50:39 YOUR CITY, AND I CAME WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
09:50:41 THERE WERE FOUR OF US.
09:50:43 WE ALL ATE.
09:50:44 WE ALL BOUGHT BASEBALL TICKETS.
09:50:46 WE ENJOYED IT.
09:50:48 IT ALWAYS SEEMS -- IN MY LIFETIME, I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL
09:50:54 ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF TRANSPORTATION, BIG OR SMALL, POEM
09:50:59 MOVER IN HARBOR ISLAND WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS, THE STREETCAR
09:51:03 IN YBOR CITY, AND THIS FERRY.
09:51:07 WHEN YOU WERE SHOWING THE CHARTS EARLIER YOU HAD RIDERSHIP
09:51:10 INCREASE UP UNTIL THE PILOT PROGRAM ENDED.
09:51:13 SO PEOPLE WERE GETTING EDUCATED ABOUT IT.
09:51:17 MORE PEOPLE WERE USING IT.
09:51:19 I REMEMBER SEVERAL TIMES, I WASN'T TAKING IT.
09:51:21 IT WAS SOLD OUT.
09:51:22 BUT RIDING OVER TO THAT BASEBALL GAME ONE NIGHT, I REMEMBER,
09:51:26 I HAD SOME FRIENDS WHO WERE ALSO GOING TO GO TO BE T THAT
09:51:29 BASEBALL GAME AND THEY WERE STUCK ON HOWARD FRANKLAND.
09:51:32 THERE WAS A CAR ACCIDENT.
09:51:34 AND USING THE FERRY I GOT THERE AND ATE DINNER AND WENT TO
09:51:38 THE BASEBALL GAME AND THEY WERE STILL STUCK IN TRAFFIC
09:51:40 TRYING TO GET OVER.
09:51:42 HOW MANY CARS DOES IT GET OFF THE ROAD, WHO DOES IT BENEFIT?
09:51:46 IT BENEFIT PD MYSELF AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE I WAS WITH.
09:51:50 I REMEMBER IN DISCUSSION OF FERRY SERVICE FROM SOUTH COUNTY
09:51:53 TO THE MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
09:51:55 IMAGINE HOW MANY CARS YOU TAKE OFF THE ROAD OF FOLKS GOING
09:52:00 TO THE GATE OF MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
09:52:02 PEOPLE HAVING TO DRIVE FROM SOUTH COUNTY UP 75 AND ALL THAT
09:52:06 TRAFFIC WHEN YOU PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF
09:52:09 TRANSPORTATION, I THINK PEOPLE WILL USE IT.
09:52:10 IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S ALWAYS AN ARGUMENT WHEN IT COMES TO
09:52:13 TRANSPORTATION.
09:52:14 I REMEMBER FOLKS THAT ARE AGAINST ANY LIGHT RAIL BEING BUILT
09:52:17 OR ANY TAX FOR LIGHT RAIL, THEY COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF TBX
09:52:25 EVEN THOUGH IT'S FDOT AND THE GOVERNOR AND WHATNOT, IT'S
09:52:28 STILL TAX DOLLARS.
09:52:29 I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S ALWAYS THE ARGUMENT OF
09:52:32 TRYING TO EASE TRAFFIC AND TRYING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT
09:52:35 METHODS, AND IF WE DON'T TRY ONE OTHER MODE, WE CONTINUOUSLY
09:52:39 SHOOT DOWN THE FERRY WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
09:52:41 YOU SAY WE'LL NEVER GO BY RAIL.
09:52:43 IF YOU SAY WE'LL NEVER EXPAND THE STREETCAR, WE'LL NEVER
09:52:46 KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE IT CAN BE.
09:52:48 SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
09:52:50 I'M GLAD IT'S A REDUCED NUMBER.
09:52:52 I KNOW WE DID GET SOME MONEY IN RETURN.
09:52:54 AND I SAID LAST YEAR HAD THE SERVICE CONTINUED THE RIDERSHIP
09:52:58 COULD HAVE CONTINUED INCREASING AS THE CHART SHOWS AND A
09:53:01 BIGGER CHUNK OF MONEY WOULD HAVE COME BACK.
09:53:03 MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE PAID FOR ITSELF EVENTUALLY.
09:53:05 IT COULD HAVE A -- COULD HAVE BEEN A YEAR OR TWO DOWN THE
09:53:08 ROAD BUT WE SAW SOME KIND OF RETURN.
09:53:11 SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
09:53:12 I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO OUR COMMENTS.
09:53:27 TAKING CARS OFF THE ROAD.
09:53:30 COUNCIL?
09:53:31 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:53:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:53:41 TAKE A VOTE ON NUMBER 10 NOW?
09:53:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO TAKE PUBLIC
09:53:50 COMMENT.
09:53:50 AND THE OTHER TWO PRESENTATIONS ARE ONLY ABOUT CRA ACTIVITY
09:53:54 AND ANOTHER PRESENTATION.
09:53:55 BUT I THINK YOU OUGHT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE TAKE
09:53:58 A VOTE.
09:53:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GO TO THE PUBLIC.
09:54:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE TO LEAVE NOW.
09:54:07 I APOLOGIZE.
09:54:09 SORRY.
09:54:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:54:12 WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:13 >> I'LL BE BACK.
09:54:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:54:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:22 ALL RIGHT.
09:54:23 WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2 WHICH IS TO PROVIDE A
09:54:27 5-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
09:54:38 POLCO.
09:54:41 >> YOU HAVE THE SLIDES? THE POLCO SLIDES?
09:54:45 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
09:55:16 FREDERICK GARCIA, ORIGINALLY FROM YBOR CITY, TAMPA, AND I
09:55:19 WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE LEA FROM THE POLCO HEADQUARTERS IN
09:55:19 MADISON, WISCONSIN.
09:55:28 POLCO IS A SMART CIVIC ENGAGEMENT CAPABILITY THAT WE WOULD
09:55:29 LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE CITY.
09:55:34 IT'S REALLY A MARRIAGE OF TECHNOLOGY, GOVERNMENT, AND THE
09:55:36 COMMUNITY.
09:55:40 IT'S A PLATFORM LICENSED TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHICH
09:55:45 INTEGRATES WITH THE GOVERNMENT WEBSITE, DEVELOPS A DATABASE
09:55:48 FROM THE POPULATION AND EMPLOYS SOCIAL MEDIA TO COMMUNICATE.
09:55:53 I COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO USE POLCO THIS MORNING
09:55:56 FROM THIS DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR IS WHAT THE
09:56:00 COMMUNITY IS THINKING, AND YOU COULD HAVE REACHED THE
09:56:04 COMMUNITY WITH THE QUESTION REGARDING THE FERRY.
09:56:08 BUT AS I'M MOVING ON, THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNICATION
09:56:13 COMPONENT BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND GOVERNMENT, AND IT
09:56:16 CREATES VERIFIABLE DATA.
09:56:21 IT'S NOW INSTALLED IN 50 COMMUNITIES IN 13 STATES.
09:56:31 THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IS CONDUCTING -- TO ENDORSE IT
09:56:38 AND WILL BE IN ST. PETE AND CLEARWATER SOON.
09:56:43 WE ARE OFFERING YOU A THREE-MONTHS, NO-OBLIGATION FREE TRIAL
09:56:48 AND THEN A CONTRACT TO GO FORWARD.
09:57:03 (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK)
09:57:05 NEXT SLIDE?
09:57:08 I'M SORRY.
09:57:14 OKAY.
09:57:14 THIS IS WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS AT MEETINGS.
09:57:20 STANDARD 10 PEOPLE.
09:57:23 A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH QUITE A BIT OF SURVEYS TO GO OVER.
09:57:27 AND THEN COMES OUT OF NOWHERE.
09:57:31 SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO HOW TO GET INFORMATION
09:57:34 TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:57:37 SO YOU ASK YOURSELF, HOW DO I ASK THE RESIDENTS FOR THEIR
09:57:41 INPUT INTO THE PLAN?
09:57:47 SO WITH POLCO IN THE MIDDLE HERE, YOU ARE ALLOWING
09:57:50 GOVERNMENT AND THE CITIZENS TOGETHER TO PLAY A ROLE WHERE
09:57:54 YOU CAN GET FEEDBACK THAT'S OBJECTIONABLE, VERIFIABLE,
09:58:01 REGISTRATION SYSTEM.
09:58:02 AND HERE IS A PERFECT SCENARIO ON THIS PAGE WHERE THE CITY
09:58:07 ADMINISTRATOR WOULD GET QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, AND
09:58:11 THE FERRY COULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE TORQUES PUT TOGETHER SOME
09:58:14 QUESTIONS OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FERRY FOR THE FUTURE,
09:58:19 AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO PUT IN THERE REGARDING
09:58:22 QUESTIONS.
09:58:23 SO WHAT HAPPENS, AS HAPPENED HERE IN PURCELLVILLE, YOU HAVE
09:58:31 A QUESTION FOR THE TOWN AND THEN ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE THE
09:58:34 PDF OF THE AREA FOR THE AREA IN QUESTION THAT YOU WANT TO
09:58:40 GET ANSWERS FROM, AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR WILL PUSH THE
09:58:51 POLCO BASE WITH THE POST AND THE QUESTION.
09:58:54 YOU CAN SHARE VIA TWITTER, FACEBOOK, WEBSITE, E-MAIL,
09:58:59 THROUGH THE NEWSPAPER, AND THE CITIZENS THEN RESPOND TO
09:59:05 POLCO AND YOU GET AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS
09:59:08 THINKING.
09:59:10 THE RESULTS COME OUT IN VERY NOISE F.A.R.
09:59:15 SHOWS YOU A DISTRIBUTION OF THEIR OPINIONS, AND ON THE RIGHT
09:59:20 THEY CAN MAKE COMMENTS.
09:59:22 POLCO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IS IN 50 COMMUNITIES AND 13
09:59:27 STATES, AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR TAMPA TO BE CONSIDERED HAVING
09:59:34 THIS BEAUTIFUL, SMART CAPABILITY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
09:59:39 WE ARE OFFERING AFTER THROW MONTHS FREE TRIAL.
09:59:43 AND IF YOU SO DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE A TIER 1 OF
09:59:49 APPROXIMATELY $12,000 A YEAR, $1,000 A MONTH, FOR A SYSTEM
09:59:55 THAT WILL GIVE YOU COMPLETE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
09:59:59 COMMUNITY.
10:00:00 THANK YOU.
10:00:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:03 QUESTIONS?
10:00:05 ALL RIGHT.
10:00:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:06 WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:00:09 BOB MCDONAUGH WITH MONTHLY CRA ACTIVITIES.
10:00:12 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:00:30 BECAUSE OF APPROVAL OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT YOU ARE GOING
10:00:32 TO SEE SOME ACTIVITY OUTSIDE THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:00:35 WE WILL START CONSTRUCTION. NEW EXPANDED RESTROOMS, SAFETY
10:00:40 RAMPS, AND THE NEW PLAZA.
10:00:44 WE'LL BEGIN WORKING WITH THEM NEXT MONTH.
10:00:46 CONSTRUCTION COMMENCEMENT FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK ACROSS
10:00:48 THE STREET WILL BEGIN NEXT WOKE.
10:00:50 AND THEY ARE ALREADY STARTING TO LOOK AT PLANS FOR THE HOTEL
10:00:54 COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET.
10:01:00 YOU SHOULD BE HEARING A LOT OF NOISE THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS
10:01:03 FROM THE SOUTH END OF DOWNTOWN, AND A COMBINATION OF WILD
10:01:09 BANGS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BAR EXAMS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER
10:01:17 BUT THEY ARE ALSO STARTING TO DRIVE PILES FOR THE JW
10:01:20 MARRIOTT.
10:01:21 SO WE ARE GOING TO SEE SOME ACTIVITY ON THAT SITE NOW.
10:01:25 IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, WE HAVE A MEETING IN MAY.
10:01:28 AS YOU RECALL, WE HAD A PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT UPGRADES TO
10:01:32 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
10:01:34 SO SOLICITING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
10:01:37 SO WE WILL BE GOING BACK THE 21st OF MAY TO MEET AND
10:01:41 WORK WITH SOME IDEAS AND PLANS FOR THEM.
10:01:43 AND AGAIN TO SOLICIT MORE INFORMATION.
10:01:46 AND PARK DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVITY GETTING READY TO
10:01:51 GEAR UP.
10:01:52 AGAIN THE PUBLIX ARE WELL ON THEIR WAY TOWARDS COMPLETION,
10:01:58 AND THE IDEA WAS THE BULK OF THAT WORK WAS DONE WE WOULD NOT
10:02:02 START WORK, AND THAT'S GETTING READY TO BE DONE.
10:02:07 IN YBOR, WE ARE FINISHING UP PERMITTING FOR THE HOTEL ON
10:02:09 7th AVENUE.
10:02:11 AND WE ALSO FINISHED PERMITTING FOR THE APARTMENTS AND
10:02:16 RETAIL PROJECT AT NUCCIO AND 7th.
10:02:22 AND PARKING APPROXIMATE IS PERFORMING UPGRADES AT THE
10:02:25 GARAGE.
10:02:27 THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED.
10:02:30 DREW PARK, LINEAR PARK IS NOW IN PERMITTING.
10:02:33 AND EAST TAMPA, THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE PLANNING
10:02:36 DEPARTMENT ON THE OVERLAY.
10:02:38 AGAIN, I THINK WE SAW WITH THE BOOM IN HOUSING WE SAW SOME
10:02:42 HOUSES BUILT IN EAST TAMPA THAT PEOPLE WERE NOT PARTICULARLY
10:02:45 PLEASED WITH THE END RESULT.
10:02:46 SO WE ARE TIGHTENING THAT UP HOPEFULLY TO GET BETTER
10:02:50 RESULTS.
10:02:51 THE TAMPA HEIGHTS, SHORTLY WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON AN
10:02:56 OFFICE BUILDING.
10:02:57 THE FIRST ONE THERE WHICH AGAIN MAKES THAT A MIXED USE
10:03:00 DEVELOPMENT WHICH WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG.
10:03:02 WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF INTEREST FROM OFFICE TENANTS.
10:03:07 CENTRAL PARK, TEMPO IS BEING FINISHED UP AND THEY ALSO ARE
10:03:11 GETTING A LOT OF INTEREST ON THEIR VACANT PROPERTIES AND
10:03:14 SHOULD SEE SOME ACTIVITY THERE SHORTLY.
10:03:16 AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST OBVIOUSLY WEST TAMPA, STRATEGIC
10:03:19 ACTION PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, AND A VERY
10:03:24 VIGOROUS DISCUSSION WAS HELD ABOUT THAT, AS WELL AS THE
10:03:28 COMMUNITY HAS APPROVED THE MURAL FOR SALCINES PARK.
10:03:39 THAT'S A QUICK CONVERSATION ABOUT ACTIVITIES.
10:03:41 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
10:03:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:45 SEEING NONE WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:03:47 YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:03:50 PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN.
10:03:54 >> I AM WORLDWIDE GLOBAL SOVEREIGN CITIZEN JOHNNY BERNARD
10:04:07 BOOTH.
10:04:23 [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:04:27 [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:06:32 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:06:36 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:07:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:06 NEXT PERSON.
10:07:06 >> CONNIE BURTON.
10:07:29 I WANT TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE MAYOR COMING IN THIS MORNING
10:07:34 FROM ST. PETE.
10:07:35 BUT GETTING GREAT REVIEWS.
10:07:48 ALSO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERY CRA IS DOING THROUGHOUT THE
10:07:52 CITY BUT I CAN TELL THERE'S A VAST DIFFERENCE IN HOW CRA
10:07:55 MONEY IS BEING SPENT IN EAST TAMPA TO THE POINT THAT I CAN
10:08:00 DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE REAL DOMAIN HOME AND THAT WHICH IS
10:08:04 BEING PLACED IN EAST TAMPA NOW BY THE DOMAIN DEVELOPMENT.
10:08:11 THERE'S A WONDERFUL ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA TIMES THE OTHER DAY
10:08:14 TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT SEGREGATION, AND THE ARTICLE AND
10:08:23 THE BOOK THAT WAS WRITTEN WAS CALLED THE COLOR OF LOVE,
10:08:25 FORGOTTEN HISTORY OF HOW GOVERNMENT SEGREGATED AMERICA.
10:08:29 AND I JUST WISH PEOPLE WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WE SEE
10:08:33 HAPPENING NOW.
10:08:34 A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT IT'S BASED ON WHAT THE MARKET
10:08:38 DEMANDS, AND THE MARKET DEMAND IS THAT THESE HOUSES, A THEN
10:08:50 OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE IN THE FLOW.
10:08:55 WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE THERE INSIDE OF OUR
10:08:58 COMMUNITY, AND HAVE A LONG TRADITION OF HOUSING.
10:09:23 CONTAINER HOMES, TINY HOMES.
10:09:26 THE HOUSES ARE STILL FINANCIALLY OUT OF REACH OF WORKING
10:09:31 CLASS PEOPLE.
10:09:31 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL BEFORE ALL OF YOU LEAVE
10:09:36 THAT THE HISTORY IS NOT RECORDED IN WAYS IN WHICH YOU
10:09:41 SUPPORT THE -- IF YOU LOOK NOW AT WHAT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF
10:09:49 THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED AS
10:09:53 THE NEW BUILD FOR ALL OF WEST TAMPA.
10:09:59 THANK YOU.
10:09:59 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:10:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
10:10:04 (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK).
10:10:05 >> METEZMAT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:10:11 YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NO ONE
10:10:17 THERE BECAUSE IN A ONE TAKING AN INTEREST IN THIS.
10:10:19 LAST WEEK IT WAS PACKED IN HERE WITH POLICE AND FIRE.
10:10:21 THE MAYOR WAS HERE PERSONALLY.
10:10:23 THE SAME MAYOR BOB BUCKHORN THAT CALLED ALL WOMEN, BLACK
10:10:27 WOMEN BITCHES, THE SAME MAYOR THAT CALLED FOR THE LYNCHING
10:10:31 OF AN AFRICAN MAN, THE SAME MAYOR STOOD RIGHT HERE LAST WEEK
10:10:36 AND DISCUSSED WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.
10:10:42 AND YOU ALL AIN'T HAD ONE SINGLE WORD TO SAY ABOUT IT.
10:10:45 AND THE MAYOR FROM ST. PETERSBURG COMES TO TAMPA AND YOU ALL
10:10:48 TREAT HIM LIKE VERY NICE WITH A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND KEPT
10:10:51 HIM HERE FOR AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT $140,000.
10:10:55 TALKING ABOUT $140,000 RIGHT NOW, WHILE YOU ALL ARE SO
10:11:01 AGGRESSIVE ABOUT A BUDGET.
10:11:02 YOU ALL AIN'T DID NOTHING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
10:11:04 NOBODY UP THERE KNOWS WHAT THE DEFICIT IS OF THE CITY.
10:11:07 NOBODY.
10:11:07 WHAT'S THE DEFICIT?
10:11:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: $906 MILLION.
10:11:15 >> SEE, ONLY ONE PERSON.
10:11:17 NO ONE ASKED WHAT BE THE DEFICIT IS. IT'S RUNAWAY.
10:11:20 IT'S GIVEAWAY.
10:11:21 IT'S GIVEAWAY TO THE CHANNELSIDE.
10:11:23 IT'S GIVEAWAY TO HARBOR ISLAND TO FDOT.
10:11:26 AND THE PEOPLE COME WITH CRAZY FIGURES.
10:11:29 THEY COME WITH CRAZY FIGURES.
10:11:32 I ASKED MY SON HE'S NINE YEARS OF AGE.
10:11:37 HE GOES TO HUNTER'S GREEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
10:11:39 ALL THE WAY TO NEW TAMPA.
10:11:44 CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TELL ME TO COUNT ON HIS HAND
10:11:50 THREE TIMES TO COME UP WITH 21.
10:11:55 HE GOES TO HUNTER'S GREEN ELEMENTARY.
10:11:57 AND THE SAME WAY, A WHOLE GENERATION OUT THERE, AND THE SAME
10:12:04 WAY THE MAN FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FDOT,
10:12:08 COMES HERE AND GIVES SOME CRAZY FIGURES ON THE TROLLEY RIDE,
10:12:11 THE SAME WAY THE MAYOR CAME FROM ST. PETERSBURG FLORIDA AND
10:12:14 HE SAID 75%, 20%, 19%, 14%.
10:12:21 GOT A CHART UP THERE THAT DO NOT EQUAL 100%.
10:12:27 IT'S A WHOLE DUMB GENERATION OUT THERE.
10:12:29 TWO GENERATIONS.
10:12:30 THREE GENERATIONS.
10:12:31 AND THE DEVELOPERS TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF YOU ALL.
10:12:34 AND NOW YOU ALL TRYING TO TALK TOUGH.
10:12:38 BUT LAST WEEK YOU ALL COULDN'T TALK TOUGH WHEN THE MAYOR WAS
10:12:42 HERE.
10:12:44 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:12:46 YOU ALL COULDN'T TALK TOUGH WITH THAT BUT YOU ALL TRYING TO
10:12:49 TALK TOUGH ABOUT 140,000 STINKING DOLLARS THAT SOME PEOPLE
10:12:53 GO OUT TO THE CASINO, GO OUT TO HARD ROCK AND LOSE IN ONE
10:12:57 NIGHT.
10:12:57 YOU ALL PAY 600 OR $700 THAT YOU FOR A TRUCK.
10:13:01 AND NOW YOU ALL TRYING TO TALK IF YOU HAVE ABOUT $140,000
10:13:06 WHEN THE MAYOR SAID GET BACK 40,000 OR MORE.
10:13:10 USE YOUR BRAINS.
10:13:11 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:13:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:13 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:13:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:13:24 MY NAME IS RICK FERNANDEZ, 2906 NORTH ELMORE, TAMPA 33602,
10:13:29 TAMPA HEIGHTS, AND PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:13:35 I'M HERE TODAY TO BREATHE LIFE BACK INTO A REQUEST THAT WAS
10:13:39 MADE BACK IN JUNE REGARDING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A SECOND
10:13:44 CRA IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:13:48 I HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS A NONSTARTER.
10:13:51 I HAVE HEARD IT FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES DIRECTLY AND
10:13:53 INDIRECTLY, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, IF I DON'T HEAR NO, I DON'T
10:13:57 KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MYSELF, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ANSWER
10:14:01 ALWAYS NO MATTER WHAT, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CITY, IT'S ALWAYS
10:14:06 NO.
10:14:07 THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, ALL RIGHT, I'M LOOKING FOR A YES
10:14:17 THAT HAS A VISION FOR THE FUTURE, AND I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE
10:14:19 ON THIS DAIS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE
10:14:23 FUTURE OF TAMPA.
10:14:24 SO I'M NOT JUST GOING TO LET IT DIE.
10:14:28 WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IMMEDIATELY, AND I DON'T
10:14:31 THINK ANYBODY IN TAMPA HEIGHTS THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A
10:14:33 TOMORROW TYPE OF SOLUTION, BUT PERHAPS IN THE NEXT
10:14:36 ADMINISTRATION.
10:14:39 I WENT TO A TRANSPORTATION FORUM LAST FRIDAY.
10:14:43 SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THERE OR AT LEAST READ SOME
10:14:47 NEWSPAPER ACCOUNTS OF IT.
10:14:48 AND ONE THING THAT'S VERY CLEAR IS THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS, IF IN
10:14:52 FACT WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT 275 AS THE TRANSIT SPINE FOR
10:14:56 THIS REGION, TAMPA HEIGHTS IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
10:15:03 THORACIC PORTION OF THE SPINE.
10:15:04 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MOST OF THE BENEFIT PRESUMABLY, AND ALL
10:15:09 OF THE BURDEN OF THAT TRANSIT SPINE.
10:15:12 WE CAN ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE TRANSIT STATIONS ALONG
10:15:15 FLORIDA AVENUE AND TAMPA, FLORIBRASKA, WHETHER WE ARE
10:15:19 TALKING ABOUT THE BRT ON THE INTERSTATE OR TALKING ABOUT BRT
10:15:24 ON ARTERIALS.
10:15:26 IF WE PLANT A TRANSIT STATION ON FLORIDA AVENUE AND PALM,
10:15:30 SOME OF THAT MONEY CERTAINLY IS GOING TO COME FROM FDOT,
10:15:33 SOME OF IT PRESUMABLY WILL COME FROM THE FEDS BUT WHERE IS
10:15:36 THE REST OF IT GOING TO COME? WHERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT
10:15:39 GOING TO COME FROM FOR THE AMENITIES THAT HAVE TO SURROUND
10:15:41 THAT TRANSIT STATION FOR A QUARTER MILE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR
10:15:47 TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT?
10:15:49 THAT TYPE OF MONEY CAN COME FROM FUNDS DERIVED FROM THE CRA.
10:15:53 THE CRA THAT WE HAVE NOW IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
10:15:56 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:15:58 BUT IT IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL COMMUNITY OF
10:16:01 TAMPA HEIGHTS, AND FRANKLY IN ITS SUCCESS WE ARE
10:16:05 ESTABLISHING AN INEQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
10:16:11 THERE IS A DISEQUILIBRIUM BETWEEN THOSE THAT ARE IN THE
10:16:16 POCKET, ULELE AND ARMATURE WORKS AND THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE
10:16:20 OF THE POCKET.
10:16:21 AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO ESTABLISH A CRA IN THE BALANCE OF
10:16:25 TAMPA HEIGHTS, I THINK THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
10:16:27 TO AVOID THAT TIPPING POINT.
10:16:31 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:16:32 SO AGAIN IT'S A SEED FOR THOUGHT. WE'LL BE BACK AND
10:16:33 HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A MORE RECEPTIVE AUDIENCE.
10:16:36 THANK YOU.
10:16:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
10:16:39 >> YES, SIR.
10:16:40 >>FRANK REDDICK: INSTEAD OF CREATING A SECOND ONE WHY NOT
10:16:44 REQUEST TO EXPAND YOUR BOUNDARIES?
10:16:46 >> WELL, I HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION AS WELL AND WAS TOLD
10:16:48 EVEN MORE ADAMANTLY, NO, THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.
10:16:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: WHO TOLD YOU THAT?
10:16:53 >> NO ONE TOLD ME DIRECTLY.
10:16:54 I WAS TOLD INDIRECTLY THROUGH THE CAC AND I THINK IT'S COME
10:16:58 FROM STAFF, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO A TRIBUTE IT TO ANYONE
10:17:02 INDIVIDUAL.
10:17:03 THE STAFF IS HERE.
10:17:04 PERHAPS THEY CAN --
10:17:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY. THIS BODY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO
10:17:10 EXPAND THAT IF WE CHOOSE.
10:17:10 >>HARRY COHEN: A COMMENT.
10:17:16 I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IN TERMS
10:17:19 OF WHETHER TO EXPAND OR TO CREATE A SEPARATE ONE, MY
10:17:22 RECOLLECTION IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXPANDING OR
10:17:26 CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES OF CRA DISTRICTS IN THE PAST, THE
10:17:28 ISSUE WAS THAT IT WOULD RESET THE BASE FOR THE ENTIRE CRA.
10:17:38 AND MAYBE PEOPLE, BEFORE THEY DID THE ANALYSIS MUCH WHETHER
10:17:42 OR NOT ONE VERSUS THE OTHER APPROACH WOULD BE BETTER.
10:17:47 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION TO ASK,
10:17:50 WHICH WOULD BE BETTER.
10:17:52 >> I THINK WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF NEXT STEP IS FINDING OF
10:17:58 NECESSITY AND I IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT ANALYSIS
10:18:00 BUT I DON'T THINK ANY ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE YET.
10:18:03 IT WAS SIMPLE WILL I A KNEE JERK, NO, IT CAN'T HAPPEN, AND
10:18:06 MAYBE THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATION ISSUE AS MUCH AS ANYTHING
10:18:10 ELSE.
10:18:11 I DON'T KNOW.
10:18:11 I'M NOT BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
10:18:13 ANYTHING ELSE?
10:18:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE WE LEAVE A MOTION TO BE MADE FOR
10:18:17 THEM TO DO AN ANALYSIS AND REPORT BACK.
10:18:19 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:18:21 I APPRECIATE IT.
10:18:23 IT.
10:18:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:18:24 SEEING NONE, WE MOVE ON TO OUR REQUIRED APPROVALS, ITEM 5.
10:18:32 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:18:37 MR. COHEN IS CORRECT.
10:18:38 IF YOU EXPAND THE BOUNDARY, YOU HAVE A RESET.
10:18:41 SO ANY GAINS ALREADY MADE IN THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS DISTRICT
10:18:45 WOULD BE REDUCED TO ZERO.
10:18:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: HAS AN ANALYSIS DONE ON THAT?
10:18:52 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I DON'T NEED TO MAKE AN ANALYSIS, SIR.
10:18:54 IT'S A FACT OF LAW IF YOU CHANGE THE BOUNDARY, YOU HAVE A
10:18:57 RESET.
10:18:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN THE PERSON THAT
10:19:00 TOLD HIM THAT.
10:19:02 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO HIM.
10:19:04 BUT I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS WHICH
10:19:06 WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT WE WOULD BE HESITANT, AS WOULD THE
10:19:09 COUNTY, TO STARTING ANOTHER CRA, WHICH WOULD TAKE MONEY OUT
10:19:12 OF THE GENERAL FUND.
10:19:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE ON A
10:19:23 BOAT TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE.
10:19:26 ALL RIGHT.
10:19:27 I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 5 SO WE CAN GET THIS OVER WITH.
10:19:34 >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:19:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:19:38 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ITEM 6 IS A FACADE GRANT.
10:19:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: SO MOVED.
10:19:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:19:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
10:19:50 MIRANDA.
10:19:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:19:51 ALL RIGHT.
10:19:52 ITEM NUMBER 7.
10:19:53 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ITEM 7 IS A RENEWAL AND EXPANSION OF THE
10:19:57 FUNDING FOR THE DOWNTOWNER.
10:20:01 >> SO MOVED.
10:20:02 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:20:04 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:20:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:07 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ITEM NUMBER 8 IS A REQUEST TO TRANSFER
10:20:11 FUNDS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA CRA FUNDS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD
10:20:14 INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, SUPPLIES.
10:20:17 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
10:20:20 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:20:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:22 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ITEM NUMBER 9 IS TRANSFER FUNDS FROM
10:20:27 NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNTS OF THE 12th STREET
10:20:29 PUMP STATION.
10:20:30 THAT IS THE LAST PAYMENT.
10:20:32 >>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:20:36 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:20:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:39 ALL RIGHT.
10:20:39 NUMBER 10.
10:20:40 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION ON 10, THAT WE
10:20:47 BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH?
10:20:48 BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE IS SOME CONFUSION AS
10:20:53 TO WHETHER OR NOT WHETHER IT BE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT OR
10:20:58 DOWNTOWN.
10:20:58 SO I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC
10:21:02 GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.
10:21:03 UNLESS WE WANTED TO EXPAND THIS TO SAY EITHER OR.
10:21:07 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:21:18 >> THE MAYOR OF ST. PETERSBURG SAID AUGUST 1st IS THE
10:21:21 FIRST DAY THAT THEY HAD TO ACT.
10:21:23 AND I DON'T KNOW BY WAITING WE WOULD COMPROMISE THEIR
10:21:26 ABILITY TO FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATION.
10:21:28 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF LEGAL?
10:21:31 COULD I EXPAND THIS REQUEST TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM THE
10:21:34 DOWNTOWN CORE NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE, OR CHANNEL
10:21:37 DISTRICT CORE INFRASTRUCTURE TO FUND CROSS BAY FERRY
10:21:42 PROJECT?
10:21:42 >> THE PLEASURE OF THE CHAIR IF THEY SHOULD ALLOW THIS
10:22:11 (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK).
10:22:12 >> WE'LL TAKE YOUR SUGGESTION.
10:22:17 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: WHY DON'T WE, IF YOU PLEASE, IF IT INDEED
10:22:24 ENDS UP IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WE CAN COME BACK.
10:22:26 >> MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE CHAIR TAKE A VOTE ON
10:22:32 THIS AND IF THAT VOTE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE,
10:22:37 THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY A SOLUTION.
10:22:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, I THINK THAT IT TRULY DOES.
10:22:47 IF WE PASS IT NOW AND THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND PUT IT
10:22:50 FROM A DIFFERENT BUCKET, IT'S NOT GOING TO SLOW DOWN, I
10:22:53 THINK, THE THEIR NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE ALL THEY WANTED TO
10:22:56 CHECK.
10:22:58 I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
10:22:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN I KNOW HAD WANTED TO
10:23:06 VOTE ON THIS BUT SHE HAD TO STEP UP.
10:23:08 >> [RUSTLING PAPERS]
10:23:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD HAVE TO CALL AND PUT HER ON
10:23:45 SPEAKERPHONE.
10:23:45 >>HARRY COHEN: WOULDN'T IT COME BACK FOR A VOTE WHEN SHE'S
10:23:53 HERE?
10:23:54 >> BUT WE HAVE A DEADLINE.
10:23:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK YOU ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE
10:24:00 HORSE.
10:24:00 WE.
10:24:00 TAKEN A VOTE YET.
10:24:01 IF FOR SOME REASON IT IS A TIE, AND WITH THE PLEASURE OF THE
10:24:05 CHAIR AND WITH THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL WE WANTED TO DO
10:24:08 AND ASK FOR HER TO CALL IN, THEN I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT
10:24:10 DECISION.
10:24:12 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE WITH WHAT HO IS HERE NOW.
10:24:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE?
10:24:18 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ AND SECOND FROM
10:24:21 COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:24:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:23 OPPOSED?
10:24:26 MOTION PASSES.
10:24:33 >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH REDDICK AND MIRANDA VOTING
10:24:43 NO AND CAPIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:24:45 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: NUMBER 11.
10:24:49 SHIFTING MONEY TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:24:54 >> SO MOVED.
10:24:56 >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:24:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:01 >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THE FINAL ONE, ITEM NUMBER 12,
10:25:02 TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM THE 12th STREET SEGMENT
10:25:05 IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:25:07 >> MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:25:13 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:25:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:15 OPPOSED?
10:25:16 ALL RIGHT.
10:25:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:20 LET'S GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS FROM CRA
10:25:23 MEMBERS.
10:25:23 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:25:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:25:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] THE COMMUNICATION TEAM
10:25:32 FOR WORKING DURING THE TWO WEEKS TO INSTALL THE CABLE
10:25:37 INFORMATION ON THIS CHAMBER SO WE CAN HAVE TELEVISION EACH
10:25:40 WEEK.
10:25:41 AS YOU KNOW, IT SAVED THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY.
10:25:44 THEY DID NOT GO OUT AND DO IT ON A BID BASIS.
10:25:46 THEY DID IT THEMSELVES.
10:25:47 AND WE PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS TO SAVE MONEY.
10:25:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, SIR, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
10:26:02 CRA STAFF, ADMINISTRATION STAFF, REPORT BACK TO THIS BOARD
10:26:14 ON AUGUST 9th, THE NEXT CRA, ON AN ANALYSIS, TO EXPAND
10:26:26 OR TO CREATE A NEW CRA IN -- (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK).
10:26:34 >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:26:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:26:47 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:26:48 [MICROPHONE FEEDBACK]
10:26:51 >> ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:53 COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:26:53 >>HARRY COHEN: JUST ONE THING I WANT TO COMMEND WHILE
10:26:59 PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT OUR
10:27:03 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ASK STAFF TO EVALUATE THE
10:27:05 PRESENTATION AND COME BACK TO US WITH WHETHER OR NOT THEY
10:27:08 ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.
10:27:11 >> COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:27:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANTED TO FIRST THANK COUNCILMAN
10:27:16 COHEN FOR GIVING THAT MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR CARLA LEWIS WE
10:27:22 ALL LOVED HER.
10:27:23 SHE WAS A TERRIFIC PERSON.
10:27:25 I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WE DID THE MOMENT OF SILENCE HERE
10:27:27 AT CRA WHICH IS REALLY THE MOST NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTED OF
10:27:30 ALL OF OUR JOBS THAT WE DEAL WITH, WHEN WE HAVE OUR CITIZEN
10:27:34 ADVISORY COMMITTEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:27:35 CARLA WAS A GREAT CITY EMPLOYEE.
10:27:37 SHE WAS A GREAT PERSON ON TOP OF THAT.
10:27:40 AND IT'S A SAD DAY FOR ALL OF US HERE AFT CITY OF TAMPA.
10:27:44 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COHEN FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THAT
10:27:47 MOMENT OF SILENCE.
10:27:47 >> AND I WILL ECHO THAT.
10:27:51 I'M IN SHOCK.
10:27:52 I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
10:27:54 CARLA WAS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND IT'S A
10:27:57 HUGE LOSS THAT WILL BE FELT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
10:28:02 I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
10:28:04 HAVING SAID THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10:28:05 THANK YOU.
10:28:06 OH, MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
10:28:09 >> SECOND.
10:28:10 >> ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:13 NOW WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10:28:16
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