TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JULY 26, 2018
6:00 P.M. SESSION
DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
THE ORIGINAL OF THIS FILE WAS PRODUCED IN ALL CAPITAL
LETTERS AND ANY VARIATION THERETO MAY BE A RESULT OF THIRD
PARTY EDITS AND SOFTWARE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.
16:54:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD EVENING.
18:02:09 WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
18:02:12 ORDER.
18:02:12 ROLL CALL.
18:02:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
18:02:15 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
18:02:16 >> MANISCALCO?
18:02:18 CAPIN?
18:02:18 MIRANDA.
18:02:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
18:02:21 >> VIERA?
18:02:23 REDDICK.
18:02:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
18:02:24 ALL RIGHT, STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY HOUSE CLEANING WE NEED TO
18:02:28 DO OR EVERYTHING OKAY?
18:02:30 STAFF, STAFF.
18:02:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, LAND DEVELOPMENT
18:02:38 COORDINATION.
18:02:41 REZ 18-35, I DO NOT SEE THE APPLICANT IN ATTENDANCE.
18:02:45 EITHER WE CAN CONTINUE THE CASE OR YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME TIME
18:02:48 AND TRY TO CALL THEM AND PROCEED WITH THE SECOND AGENDA
18:02:51 ITEM, PERHAPS.
18:02:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET US GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
18:02:56 >> I'LL MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
18:02:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
18:02:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
18:03:01 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
18:03:04 ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
18:03:05 OPPOSED?
18:03:05 LET'S START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.
18:03:07 ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 1, 2, 3, AND 4, PLEASE STAND
18:03:21 TO BE SWORN.
18:03:26 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH
18:03:28 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:03:29 THANK YOU.
18:03:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU MAY GO.
18:03:44 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:03:45 RYAN MANASSE, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:03:48 AB 2-18-10, PROPERTY AT 5210 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
18:03:54 THE CURRENT ZONING IS SHCG AND SHCI WITH A FUTURE LAND USE
18:03:59 OF CC-35.
18:04:00 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
18:04:02 APPLICATION AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA
18:04:05 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
18:04:07 MINOR CORRECTIONS WILL BE NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:04:09 READING.
18:04:10 THE 5210 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE SITE IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR
18:04:14 BAR LOUNGE, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES.
18:04:18 THE EXISTING USE IS THE SAME AS THE PROPOSED USE, USED FOR A
18:04:21 BAR LOUNGE, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES.
18:04:26 THIS PETITION IS NOT CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE.
18:04:27 THE CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS APPROVED PETITION TO THIS
18:04:30 PROPOSED PETITION IS THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
18:04:34 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN HOURS TO
18:04:36 SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 11 A.M. TO 3 A.M.
18:04:38 THE CURRENT APPROVED HOURS PER V12-280 ARE SUNDAY THROUGH
18:04:43 WEDNESDAY, 11 A.M. TO 11 P.M., THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY,
18:04:46 11 A.M. TO 1 A.M.
18:04:48 THE PROPOSED AB SALES AREA IS 1,306 SQUARE FEET INDOOR AND
18:04:54 920 SQUARE FEET OUTDOOR FOR A TOTAL OF 2,226 SQUARE FEET.
18:04:59 THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE FROM THE EXISTING APPROVED PETITION
18:05:03 V12-280.
18:05:05 PROPOSED SITE PLAN NO AB SALES WITHIN THE PARKING OR LOADING
18:05:09 AREA OR SPACE.
18:05:10 THE WAIVERS REQUESTED COME FROM SECTION 27-132.
18:05:17 THE FIRST TWO ARE FOR DISTANCE SEPARATIONS.
18:05:19 FIRST FROM AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 1,000 FEET TO
18:05:22 173 FEET.
18:05:23 THE SECOND DISTANCE WAIVER IS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN
18:05:28 1,000 FEET TO ZERO FEET.
18:05:30 ALSO SECTION 27-132, THE WAIVER WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE
18:05:34 OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND UNTIL 11 P.M.
18:05:37 LAND DEVELOPMENT DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE
18:05:43 DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS STATED FROM 27132 FOR AB
18:05:47 SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL USES AND ALSO THE NO
18:05:51 OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
18:05:52 THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS THE REFINERY.
18:05:58 IT'S AT 5137 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
18:06:02 ITS ZONING SHCI.
18:06:04 IT IS A 4 COP AND 173 FEET AWAY.
18:06:07 THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT JUST
18:06:10 NORTH OF THE PROPERTY AT 5208 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
18:06:13 IT'S FOR APARTMENTS, AND ITS ZONING IS SHCI AND IT'S AT ZERO
18:06:17 FEET.
18:06:18 GENERALLY HART ROUTE, ROUTE ONE WEEKDAYS 4:05 A.M. TO
18:06:24 12:41 P.M. AND WEEKENDS FROM 6 A.M. TO 10:41 P.M.
18:06:27 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN
18:06:30 VILLAGE AND FLORIDA AVENUE IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
18:06:33 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
18:06:36 THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUSINESS.
18:06:43 THE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
18:06:45 COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT TO THE SOUTH.
18:06:47 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IS A BUSINESS.
18:06:51 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON FLORIDA.
18:06:53 THAT'S THE REFINERY THAT'S POINTED OUT AS THE CLOSEST AB
18:06:57 SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
18:06:58 THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON FLORIDA.
18:07:01 GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, THE VICINITY MAP WITH THE RED
18:07:05 OUTLINING THE RED STAR ROCK BAR.
18:07:07 AND TPD DID NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THEIR REPORT.
18:07:12 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:07:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
18:07:20 >>HARRY COHEN: WHAT IS CHANGING?
18:07:21 JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, WHAT IS CHANGING FROM WHAT IS
18:07:25 EXISTING AND WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR?
18:07:28 >> THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
18:07:29 >>HARRY COHEN: THAT'S THE ONLY THING.
18:07:30 >> AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SPECIFIED THAT THE WAIVER FOR NO
18:07:32 OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
18:07:34 ALTHOUGH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN DOES STATE
18:07:37 AMPLIFIED SOUND IS PERMITTED AND IT HAS LISTED HOURS.
18:07:40 BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
18:07:43 >>HARRY COHEN: THE DISTANCE WAIVERS, THAT'S ALL EXISTING
18:07:45 CONDITIONS.
18:07:46 >> CORRECT.
18:07:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
18:07:55 ALL RIGHT.
18:07:55 THE APPLICANT.
18:07:56 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
18:08:00 PETITIONER.
18:08:00 BASICALLY, THIS IS A CHANGE IN HOURS OF OPERATION AND
18:08:05 CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE OUTDOOR MUSIC.
18:08:07 WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE WAIVERS.
18:08:09 WE HAVE THE WAIVERS FOR THE DISTANCE SEPARATION AND ALL OF
18:08:13 THE OTHER AFFILIATED WAIVERS THAT ARE ON THE SITE PLAN.
18:08:17 THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS OPERATING HOURS, AND IT RELATES TO THE
18:08:22 FACT THAT THERE ARE NINE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN THE
18:08:25 VICINITY THAT ALL HAVE LATER HOURS.
18:08:27 WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE RED STAR, THE RED STAR CLOSES
18:08:30 EARLIER, AND EVERYONE LEAVES AND THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE
18:08:33 ELSE.
18:08:33 TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S BEEN NO POLICE REPORTS THAT WERE
18:08:40 ADVERSE TO THE OPERATION OF THIS BUSINESS.
18:08:43 IT'S ABOUT 2500 SQUARE FEET TOTAL.
18:08:45 IT'S A VERY SMALL VENUE.
18:08:46 IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE RED STAR BAR ACTS AS A COMMUNITY
18:08:50 CENTER.
18:08:50 IT'S AN INFORMATION CENTER.
18:08:52 IT'S USED AS A GATHERING POINT FOR NEIGHBORS TO COME AND
18:08:56 TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES, TO RESOLVE ISSUES, AND TO
18:09:01 DISCUSS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE AREA.
18:09:03 IN TERMS OF I THINK THAT RYAN SHOWED YOU HIS PICTURES ARE
18:09:12 BETTER THAN MINE.
18:09:13 HE SHOWED YOU, IT'S A VERY SMALL ESTABLISHMENT AND IT HAS
18:09:21 SERVED AS A COMMUNITY, AS I'VE SAID, A COMMUNITY SUPPORT
18:09:24 CENTER FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
18:09:26 I HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS WITH THE HOURS
18:09:30 OF OPERATION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM AND BASICALLY THEIR
18:09:34 LOCATION.
18:09:35 BUT THERE ARE NINE OF THEM WITHIN A VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY.
18:09:40 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS PETITION,
18:09:51 AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM AT THIS POINT AND RESERVE ANY
18:09:55 ADDITIONAL TIME FOR REBUTTAL, BUT IT'S A PRETTY
18:09:59 STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION.
18:10:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
18:10:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT WERE THE HOURS BEFORE?
18:10:06 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT'S CHANGING FROM 11 P.M. TO THE
18:10:10 CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 13, IT WOULD BE 3 A.M.
18:10:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: DOESN'T SAY CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 13 HERE,
18:10:18 DOES IT?
18:10:20 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE CAN MODIFY IT AND PUT IT ON THE SITE
18:10:22 PLAN.
18:10:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
18:10:24 I'M FINE WITH THAT.
18:10:25 THANK YOU.
18:10:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:10:33 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THOSE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
18:10:35 PETITION TO COME FORWARD.
18:10:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: WHO ARE YOU INVITING TO COME FORWARD?
18:10:39 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE THAT
18:10:41 ARE SUPPORTIVE.
18:10:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: OH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
18:10:44 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
18:10:45 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:10:46 CHAIRMAN, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO STAND UP SO THEY
18:10:49 WEREN'T STILL SITTING.
18:10:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL HANDLE THAT PART.
18:10:51 ALL RIGHT.
18:10:52 ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2,
18:10:57 PLEASE COME FORWARD.
18:11:02 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:11:03 MY NAME IS HERMAN BIPS.
18:11:05 I LIVE AT 209 WEST FRIERSON, ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF FROM
18:11:09 THE RED STAR. THE RED STAR BAR IS NOT JUST A BAR BUT A PART
18:11:13 OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:11:16 IT'S WHERE YOU MEET FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS.
18:11:18 WE SING KARAOKE, NOT VERY WELL, SUPPORT COMMUNITY EVENTS.
18:11:21 I SUPPORT THE RED STAR IN THE PETITION TO OPEN TO 3 A.M.
18:11:24 LIKE OTHER BARS IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
18:11:26 LIVE MUSIC WILL STILL BE DONE AT 11.
18:11:31 I LIVE, AS I SAID, A BLOCK AND A HALF.
18:11:33 THAT'S FINE.
18:11:33 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
18:11:35 THANK YOU.
18:11:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT.
18:11:41 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:11:42 STEPHEN LYTLE.
18:11:45 322 WEST GIDDENS AVENUE.
18:11:46 I'M PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC
18:11:50 ASSOCIATION, AND I ALSO LIVE ON WEST GIDDENS NEAR RED STAR
18:11:52 ROCK BAR.
18:11:54 PAUL MEDRANO AND RED STAR ROCK BAR APPROACHED OUR
18:11:54 ASSOCIATION BOARD TO ASK FOR NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK AND TO
18:11:56 GET AN IDEA OF HOW THE BOARD WOULD FEEL.
18:11:59 SO OUR ASSOCIATION BOARD DID GO THROUGH A PROCESS, AND I
18:12:02 WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE DECISION OF
18:12:04 WHAT WE CAME TO HERE.
18:12:05 FIRST, WE TALKED ABOUT CONSISTENCY.
18:12:07 AND WE PULLED THE HOURS OF OTHER BARS AND RESTAURANTS WITHIN
18:12:10 THE AREA AND FOUND THAT MANY OF THEM WERE OPEN WITH 3 A.M.
18:12:13 PERMITS.
18:12:13 SO FRONT PORCH, THE REFINERY, MANDARIN HEIGHTS, WHICH IS
18:12:17 BRAND-NEW OPENED, ALL HAVE PERMITS UNTIL 3 A.M., WHILE SEA
18:12:20 HOUSE, ICHICORO AND INDEPENDENT ARE OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
18:12:24 ICHICORO AND INDEPENDENT, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FIND OUT
18:12:29 WHAT THEIR PERMIT IS, BUT I KNOW THEY ARE OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
18:12:33 WE ALSO GOT FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
18:12:33 SURROUNDING THAT AREA TO UNDERSTAND THEIR THOUGHTS AND
18:12:36 CONCERNS.
18:12:36 I KNOW MANY OF THEM WHO ABUT THE PROPERTY ARE HERE TODAY.
18:12:40 WE REVISITED A SURVEY WE SENT OUT ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO WHERE
18:12:43 WE WANTED TO GET NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK BASED ON ADDRESS SO
18:12:47 WE COULD CONFIRM THEY ARE NEIGHBORS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT
18:12:50 COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHAT KIND, WHAT TIME, THINGS LIKE
18:12:52 THAT.
18:12:52 OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE SOUND POLICY THAT'S
18:12:55 BEING PASSED WITHIN THIS WITH 11 P.M. AND WE FELT THAT WAS
18:12:59 KIND OF A GOOD-NEIGHBOR GESTURE, MAKING SURE THE SOUND
18:13:03 WASN'T THERE AFTER 11 P.M. ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND
18:13:06 10 P.M. THE REMAINDER.
18:13:07 WE CONSIDERED THEIR REPUTATION AS A NEIGHBOR.
18:13:08 I ALSO LOOKED BACK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION E-MAILS
18:13:11 AND FOUND THAT ONLY ONE TIME DID WE EVER HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD
18:13:14 COMPLAINT ABOUT RED STAR ROCK BAR, AND THAT WAS IN REGARDS
18:13:16 TO SOUND AND IT WAS IN 2016.
18:13:19 SINCE THEN, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THEM.
18:13:22 AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'VE MITIGATED SOME OF THE CONCERNS
18:13:25 THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE DONE TO THE BAR ITSELF.
18:13:26 I FOUND IT FUNNY THAT WE CALLED IT A COMMUNITY -- WHAT DID
18:13:30 YOU CALL IT?
18:13:31 WHATEVER IT WAS.
18:13:31 I FOUND THAT A LITTLE BIT FUNNY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS A
18:13:35 COMMUNITY CENTER.
18:13:36 PEOPLE DO GO THERE ALL THE TIME.
18:13:37 WHEN THERE ARE HOT-BUTTON ISSUES, GREAT PLACE TO GO.
18:13:40 IT IS A SMALL BAR.
18:13:41 IT IS A COMMUNITY BAR.
18:13:42 WE BELIEVE GOOD NEIGHBORS SHOW THEIR TRUE COLORS OVER TIME.
18:13:45 AND NEIGHBORHOOD ROCK STAR HAS BEEN A STAPLE FOR MANY YEARS.
18:13:48 SINCE IT'S BEEN OPEN, IT'S BEEN A LOCAL JOINT THAT'S A
18:13:51 LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR TYPICAL FOOD HANGOUT THAT
18:13:53 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS KNOWN FOR.
18:13:54 IN THAT TIME, THEY HAVE BEEN ONE OF OUR MOST SUPPORTIVE
18:13:57 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
18:13:58 ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN DEALT
18:14:01 UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH WE'VE SEEN.
18:14:03 LONG-STANDING MEMBER OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
18:14:07 AND ADVERTISER IN THE NEWSLETTER.
18:14:08 THAT IS CRUCIAL TO DELIVER OUR NEWS LETTER TO EVERY HOME AND
18:14:11 BUSINESS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE ABLE TO DRIVE THAT
18:14:14 INFORMATION.
18:14:15 AS A NEIGHBOR AND PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WE DO
18:14:17 GLADLY SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
18:14:19 I'D ALSO SAY AS YOUR BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHAIR THAT
18:14:23 THE FLORIDA STATUTE REALLY TALKS ABOUT TREATING A LICENSEE
18:14:26 IN A NONDISCRIMINATORY MANNER AND IN A MANNER THAT IS
18:14:29 CONSISTENT WITH THE MANNER OF TREATMENT OF OTHER LAWFUL
18:14:31 BUSINESSES.
18:14:31 THE TAMPA ORDINANCE 7 A.M. TO 3 A.M. UNLESS SPECIAL
18:14:35 CONDITIONS LIMIT THOSE HOURS.
18:14:36 AND SO THERE REALLY IS NOTHING THAT SAYS WHAT THOSE HOURS
18:14:38 ARE.
18:14:39 BUT AS YOUR BUDGET ADVISORY CHAIR, YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY
18:14:41 RESPONSIBILITY IN CASE THERE'S LITIGATION TO ENSURE WE
18:14:44 AREN'T WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
18:14:46 THANKS.
18:14:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:14:46 NEXT SPEAKER.
18:14:51 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:14:52 MY NAME IS BRIAN CURRY.
18:14:54 108 WEST GIDDENS AT THE OPPOSITE END RIGHT THERE ON FLORIDA
18:14:58 AVENUE AND GIDDENS.
18:14:59 I'M WHAT IS AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR TO
18:15:04 THE RED STAR ROCK BAR.
18:15:06 155 PACES FROM MY FRONT DOOR TO THEIR BACK DOOR, AT LEAST IT
18:15:10 USED TO BE UNTIL THE CONSTRUCTION SITE WENT IN NEXT DOOR.
18:15:13 I'VE KNOWN THESE GUYS FOR FIVE YEARS.
18:15:15 THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN UPSTANDING GUYS.
18:15:17 THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:15:18 I WON'T BELABOR THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I'VE
18:15:21 KNOWN THEM SINCE THEY'VE BEEN OPEN AND BEFORE THAT.
18:15:25 THREE AND A HALF YEARS OPEN, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUES
18:15:28 THAT I KNOW OF FROM MY NEIGHBORS, FROM THE SURROUNDING
18:15:32 NEIGHBORS.
18:15:33 STEPHEN MENTIONED ABOUT OUR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC
18:15:35 ASSOCIATION.
18:15:36 WE THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE STRONGEST ONES IN THE HEIGHTS
18:15:38 AREA.
18:15:38 AND LOTS OF OUR PEOPLE GO TO THE RED STAR ROCK BAR.
18:15:42 LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD MEETINGS -- LIKE THEY SAID, WE'VE HAD
18:15:46 MEETINGS THERE.
18:15:46 WE HAVE AFTER-MEETINGS THERE.
18:15:48 THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
18:15:49 FOR INSTANCE, INVOLVED IN THE SECOND YEAR OF A SCHOOL SUPPLY
18:15:53 DRIVE FOR BROWARD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
18:15:55 THEY TOOK PART IN IT LAST YEAR.
18:15:56 RAISED A LOT OF MONEY AND SUPPLIES FOR THE SCHOOL, AND THEY
18:15:58 ARE INVOLVED IN IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
18:16:01 THEY DO THAT KIND OF THING.
18:16:02 THEY ARE FINE PEOPLE, AND I HAVE NO REASON TO THINK THIS
18:16:06 SHOULDN'T GO THROUGH.
18:16:09 TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
18:16:10 THANK YOU.
18:16:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
18:16:14 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:16:15 PATRICK THORPE, ALLEGEDLY, 1013 EAST JEAN STREET.
18:16:19 I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE OPERATING HOURS EXTENDING UNTIL
18:16:23 3 A.M.
18:16:23 I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:16:24 I SEE WHAT PAUL MEDRANO DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
18:16:29 I SEE THE CAMARADERIE OF THE PATRONS AT THE ESTABLISHMENT.
18:16:33 AND AS A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER WHO JUST OPENED UP DOWN THE
18:16:36 STREET, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO GO HAVE CLIENT MEETINGS.
18:16:40 SO IT CERTAINLY HELPS EVERYONE OUT.
18:16:42 AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO
18:16:46 CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THEY HAVE AND AS THEY WILL CONTINUE.
18:16:50 THANK YOU.
18:16:54 >> RANDY CONSTAN.
18:16:56 I LIVE AT 14807 MILLSTREAM WAY, ABOUT FIVE MILES NORTH OF
18:17:01 THIS WONDERFUL CLUB.
18:17:03 I'M A LOCAL MUSICIAN.
18:17:05 I PERFORM THERE ONCE IN A WHILE.
18:17:06 I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THEM TO BE A VERY
18:17:10 RESPONSIBLE KIND OF CLUB.
18:17:12 I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY KIND OF A HINT OF TROUBLE AT THIS BAR.
18:17:16 I MEAN, IN FACT, IN THE LATE-NIGHT HOURS, YOU WOULD BE
18:17:19 HARD-PRESSED TO KNOW THERE WAS EVEN AN OPEN BUSINESS THERE.
18:17:24 SO I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY DETRIMENT TO THE SURROUNDING
18:17:26 COMMUNITY BY EXTENDING THEIR HOURS A LITTLE.
18:17:29 [ENCODER DROP]
18:18:17 AFTER HOURS OR PLACES TO GO TO.
18:18:19 SORRY, I GET NERVOUS.
18:18:22 ANYHOW, I OWN SEVERAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
18:18:25 I OWN THE PREVIOUS BUILDING THAT THE REFINERY WAS IN.
18:18:29 I'M DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.
18:18:31 I'VE KNOWN PAUL SINCE THE BEGINNING BEFORE IT WAS -- HE EVEN
18:18:38 MOVED IN AND OPENED THERE.
18:18:40 HE IS AN AMAZING HUMAN BEING.
18:18:44 HE DOES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT, OVER AND BEYOND FOR OUR
18:18:47 COMMUNITY.
18:18:48 SO I WANT TO SAY THAT HE'S A GOOD PERSON.
18:18:53 I KNOW THAT HE -- IF HE HAD THESE HOURS, WHICH I REALLY HOPE
18:18:57 THAT YOU WILL VOTE FOR TO GIVE IT TO HIM, THAT I WANT YOU TO
18:19:00 KNOW THAT HE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE.
18:19:02 HE DOESN'T PUT UP WITH ANYTHING.
18:19:05 HE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.
18:19:06 ALSO, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I KNOW THE ABILITY TO COMPETE,
18:19:09 AND I KNOW THOSE MIGHT BE TWO EXTRA HOURS TO SOME PEOPLE,
18:19:13 BUT TO A BUSINESS OWNER, THAT CAN MAKE AND BREAK YOU.
18:19:16 AND WE HAD A DEVASTATING YEAR LAST YEAR IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:19:19 AND I KNOW IF HE DID NOT HAVE THOSE EXTENDED HOURS AND HE
18:19:23 NEEDED THEM THEN, THAT MIGHT HAVE PUT HIM OUT OF BUSINESS.
18:19:27 I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE TO SAY THAN I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS
18:19:32 PANEL APPROVES THEM.
18:19:34 THANK YOU.
18:19:39 >> I AM REBECCA CRUZ.
18:19:41 I OWN THE BUSINESS YESTERDAY'S VINTAGE FASHIONS AND
18:19:44 FURNISHINGS, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM RED STAR.
18:19:49 I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS JUST EXPRESSED TO YOU ABOUT THE BAR.
18:19:51 THE OWNERSHIP BETWEEN PAUL MEDRANO AND BRIAN BOSCO, GREAT
18:19:58 SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND I AM -- I FEEL LIKE I'M JULIE THE
18:20:03 CRUISE DIRECTOR IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ME
18:20:06 AND SAY, HEY, WHERE SHOULD I GO EAT?
18:20:08 WHERE SHOULD I GO AFTERWARDS?
18:20:09 AND I ALWAYS SUGGEST, NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT, NEIGHBORS TO
18:20:12 THE RIGHT.
18:20:13 AND RED STAR HAS BEEN A GREAT MEETING PLACE FOR THOSE THAT
18:20:19 NOT ONLY ARE VISITING THE AREA, AND WANT A SLICE OF SEMINOLE
18:20:23 HEIGHTS EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PUT
18:20:26 TOGETHER MEETINGS AND KEEP CHANGING AND KEEP GROWING THE
18:20:30 AREA.
18:20:30 WITH THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING.
18:20:33 I HOPE THAT THIS GETS PASSED TODAY AND THANKFUL TO HAVE TIME
18:20:39 TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
18:20:45 >> HI, COUNCIL.
18:20:46 MY NAME IS JOHN SWOPE.
18:20:48 I AM A LOCAL MUSICIAN.
18:20:50 I HAVE A BAND CALLED KING OF DENMARK.
18:20:52 WE PLAY AT THE RED STAR ROCK BAR QUITE A BIT, QUITE OFTEN.
18:20:56 NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT.
18:20:58 I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY, YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE THE SUPPORT
18:21:00 HERE, AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN MENTIONING, A LOT OF THE
18:21:03 SIMILAR THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION.
18:21:05 WHAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS THE RESPONSIBLENESS OF THE
18:21:10 OWNERS.
18:21:11 MUSICIANS AREN'T ALWAYS THE EASIEST PEOPLE TO WORK WITH.
18:21:14 HAVING TO DEAL WITH BANDS AND NOISE AND TURNING UP AND
18:21:17 TURNING DOWN, IT'S ALWAYS A BONE OF CONTENTION WITH
18:21:20 MUSICIANS.
18:21:21 BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT REGARDING THE COMMUNITY AND THE
18:21:26 GOOD FAITH AS FAR AS ENDING THE TIME THAT THE BANDS PLAY THE
18:21:30 AMPLIFIED SOUND AT 11:00, THE BAR IS ALWAYS VERY COGNIZANT
18:21:35 OF KEEPING THAT SOUND AT RESPECTABLE LEVELS FOR THE
18:21:38 COMMUNITY.
18:21:38 AND IN TURN, GARNER THAT RESPECT FROM THE MUSICIANS AS WELL.
18:21:46 WE'RE ALL VERY COGNIZANT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP THE BAR
18:21:49 A FUN PLACE TO COME HANG OUT, TO COME WATCH MUSIC, BUT ALSO
18:21:52 TO RESPECT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
18:21:54 I DEFINITELY WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT.
18:21:57 I FEEL THAT THESE ADDITIONAL HOURS, IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT
18:21:59 CAN HELP THIS BAR, THEY'VE HELPED OUT MY BAND TREMENDOUSLY,
18:22:02 AND IF YOU GUYS COULD AND GALS COULD PLEASE VOTE ON THE
18:22:06 ADDITIONAL HOURS, I THINK THAT THIS WOULD REALLY HELP OUT
18:22:09 THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY IN GENERAL AND IT WOULD BE A
18:22:12 GREAT THING TO KEEP THIS PLACE GOING STRONG.
18:22:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:22:17 >> YOU THINK MUSICIANS ARE TOUGH TO DEAL WITH, YOU OUGHT TO
18:22:19 WORK WITH A BUNCH OF POLITICIANS.
18:22:20 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:22:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M WEIGHING IN ON THAT ONE.
18:22:27 YOU OUGHT TO WORK WITH A BUNCH OF MALE POLITICIANS.
18:22:31 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:22:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND WE DON'T HAVE INSTRUMENTS.
18:22:35 >> HI.
18:22:36 BARBARA SOUSTEK.
18:22:38 I AM NOT A SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENT YET.
18:22:40 I AM IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND I AM IN THE PRACTICE OF SELLING MY
18:22:43 HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
18:22:43 THE REASON I'M MOVING OUT OF SOUTH TAMPA IS TO MOVE INTO
18:22:47 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:22:48 ONE OF THE REASONS IS I VISITED RED STAR ROCK BAR.
18:22:50 I MET PAUL.
18:22:51 I LOVE THE COMMUNITY.
18:22:52 IT'S A REALLY GREAT PLACE.
18:22:54 I'VE NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD LEAVE SOUTH TAMPA.
18:22:56 I'M A THIRD GENERATION, BORN AND RAISED.
18:22:58 BUT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS UP AND COMING, RESPONSIBLE, GOOD,
18:23:02 HEALTHY PEOPLE, AND I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE INTO THAT COMMUNITY
18:23:06 AND I HIGHLY SUPPORT YOU GUYS VOTING FOR THIS.
18:23:08 BECAUSE I THINK THESE GUYS ARE REALLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
18:23:11 THING.
18:23:11 >> LYSA BOZEL, 1504 EAST PARK CIRCLE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
18:23:21 I'M A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER.
18:23:23 MY HUSBAND AND I AND PAUL IS OUR TENANT AT LONDON HEIGHTS.
18:23:26 WE FREQUENT RED STAR, AND HE'S A PHENOMENAL TENANT.
18:23:30 HE IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY.
18:23:31 HE DOES AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE COMMUNITY.
18:23:33 SO WE REALLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL DECIDE TO EXTEND THE HOURS
18:23:38 THAT HE NEEDS BECAUSE HE MAKES QUITE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR
18:23:41 COMMUNITY.
18:23:41 THANK YOU.
18:23:45 >> HELLO.
18:23:46 MICHAEL BOZEL.
18:23:47 THAT IS MY WIFE.
18:23:48 SHE SAID EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY.
18:23:50 BASICALLY THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY, PAUL IS DOING A LOT OF
18:23:53 GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
18:23:53 THE BEST PART, HE'LL CONTINUE TO DO GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
18:23:56 THAT'S THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE NEED IN OUR AREA.
18:23:59 BECAUSE WE ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF
18:24:01 CHANGE, AND IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER NOW.
18:24:03 AND WE SHOULD KEEP THE BALL ROLLING SO WE KEEP GETTING THE
18:24:07 YOUNG LADY THAT WILL MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S WHAT
18:24:09 WE WANT.
18:24:10 IT IS A TIGHT COMMUNITY.
18:24:10 WE ARE ALL HERE FOR EACH OTHER.
18:24:12 WE ALL TALK TO EACH OTHER.
18:24:13 WE GO TOGETHER.
18:24:14 WE GO TO DINNER TOGETHER, EVERYTHING.
18:24:17 SO WE WANT TO KEEP IT GOING.
18:24:18 AND IT'S A NICE PLACE TO GO LATE AT NIGHT IF YOU WANT A
18:24:23 COCKTAIL AFTER A NIGHT OF GOING OUT TO DINNER, PERFECT SPOT
18:24:26 TO LISTEN TO A LITTLE BIT OF MUSIC.
18:24:28 PLEASE VOTE FOR HIS CONTINUED HOURS, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO
18:24:32 HAVE IT.
18:24:32 THANK YOU.
18:24:35 >> MORGAN McKENZIE, 1310 EAST GIDDENS, ABOUT A QUARTER
18:24:40 MILE TO HALF A MILE EASTBOUND ON THE ROAD THAT ABUTS THAT
18:24:43 PROPERTY.
18:24:43 ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT IS THE WORK, PLAY, LIVE
18:24:48 COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IN TAMPA.
18:24:51 A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK 9 TO 5 AND LOT OF PEOPLE WORK IN
18:24:54 SERVICE JOBS AND THEY GET OUT OF THEIR SERVICE JOB AT 9:00,
18:24:57 10, 11, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO WITHOUT
18:25:02 INVOLVING DRIVING.
18:25:03 THIS IS A WALKABLE AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY CAN
18:25:05 GET OUT OF THE SERVICE JOB AND BUILD MULTIPLE SHIFTS OF
18:25:07 COMMUNITY.
18:25:08 THANK YOU.
18:25:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:25:11 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2?
18:25:14 PETITIONER?
18:25:19 >>STEVE MICHELINI: COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI AGAIN.
18:25:21 I THINK THAT YOU'VE HEARD THAT THESE ARE RESPECTFUL PEOPLE.
18:25:24 THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE COMMUNITY ORIENTED.
18:25:28 WE HAVE A NOMINAL CHANGE TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
18:25:32 THIS BUSINESS IS ONLY 2200 SQUARE FEET.
18:25:34 IT'S 20 FEET WIDE.
18:25:36 AND INCLUDING THE BACKYARD, IT'S 155 FEET DEEP.
18:25:40 SO IT IS, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT IS A COMMUNITY-ORIENTED
18:25:44 LOCATION.
18:25:45 IT IS A GATHERING SPOT, AND IT'S A FRIENDLY PLACE FOR
18:25:50 EVERYONE.
18:25:50 WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING APPROVAL, AND WE'LL MAKE A
18:25:55 CHANGE THAT REQUESTS THE CHAPTER 14 CONSISTENCY ON THE HOURS
18:25:59 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS.
18:26:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: I SUGGEST WE HOLD ONE OF OUR MEETINGS
18:26:04 THERE.
18:26:04 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:26:08 [ CHEERS & APPLAUSE ]
18:26:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE SAID WHAT
18:26:17 I WANTED TO SAY.
18:26:18 THAT IS PEOPLE WORK LATE.
18:26:20 PEOPLE WORK IN SERVICE JOBS.
18:26:21 THEY WANT OPTIONS.
18:26:22 I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD TO VOTE ON THE HOURS FOR ICHICORO.
18:26:27 DIDN'T GO THROUGH, BUT I SUPPORTED LATER HOURS.
18:26:31 BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING ELSE TO DO AFTER A CERTAIN
18:26:34 TIME PERIOD.
18:26:35 A LOT OF MY FRIENDS GO TO RED STAR AND I'VE NEVER HEARD A
18:26:38 COMPLAINT.
18:26:39 IT IS A GATHERING PLACE.
18:26:40 IT IS A GOOD COMMUNITY LOCATION.
18:26:41 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A PLACE LIKE ON SOUTH MacDILL,
18:26:44 THE PATIO, WHICH IS INFAMOUS.
18:26:48 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:26:48 SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
18:26:55 I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
18:26:57 YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE ON IT.
18:26:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:27:00 ANYONE ELSE?
18:27:01 MR. VIERA.
18:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:27:04 I JUST WANTED TO -- AND I THINK I MAY HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE
18:27:07 WHEN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WAS HERE, BUT JUST TO SALUTE EVERYBODY
18:27:11 FOR COMING OUT.
18:27:13 WE DON'T SEE THIS FOR A LOT OF PARTS OF THE CITY.
18:27:16 I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THE RED STAR.
18:27:18 I'M FROM NEW TAMPA.
18:27:20 OUR PLACE IS THIS LITTLE PLACE CALLED CHILI'S.
18:27:24 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:27:25 BUT I'M SURE IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE, BUT IT REALLY JUST
18:27:29 SHOWS THE KIND OF REVIVAL THAT WE'VE SEEN IN SEMINOLE
18:27:32 HEIGHTS IN THE LAST 10, 20 YEARS, 15 YEARS OR SO, IS BECAUSE
18:27:36 OF PEOPLE JUST PULLING UP THE BOOTSTRAPS OF THE COMMUNITY
18:27:39 AND UNITING TOGETHER AND WORKING HARD AND THE ENTHUSIASM
18:27:41 WE'VE SEEN HERE JUST FURTHER CEMENTS WHAT I FEEL ABOUT
18:27:45 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:27:46 THANK YOU.
18:27:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
18:27:50 THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING THIS TO CHAPTER 14 BECAUSE THE
18:27:54 HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH IT.
18:27:56 IT'S JUST NOT STATED.
18:27:57 I ALSO WANT TO SAY I AGREE, PEOPLE NOT ONLY WORK SERVICE
18:28:00 JOBS, THEY DON'T WORK 9 TO 5.
18:28:03 PEOPLE WORK ALL HOURS.
18:28:05 THEY ARE DOING, THEY HAVE CONTRACTS THAT THEY DO.
18:28:12 THE 9 TO 5 IS SOMETHING OF THE PAST AS FAR AS WORKERS ARE
18:28:15 CONCERNED.
18:28:16 SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
18:28:18 YES, I AGREE.
18:28:20 WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE MEETING BEFORE WE ALL LEAVE.
18:28:23 I'M DONE.
18:28:25 THANK YOU.
18:28:25 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:28:27 >> SECOND.
18:28:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
18:28:28 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
18:28:31 ALL IN FAVOR TO CLOSE, AYE.
18:28:32 OPPOSED.
18:28:33 MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO READ ITEM NUMBER 2?
18:28:37 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
18:28:39 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
18:28:40 ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
18:28:44 BEVERAGE SALES BAR/LOUNGE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND
18:28:47 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
18:28:50 CONTENT, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR ON CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT
18:28:54 OF LAND, LOCATED ON 5210 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA,
18:28:56 FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 THAT
18:28:58 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
18:29:01 REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2013-105, PROVIDING AN
18:29:06 EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:29:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
18:29:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: WITH THE CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:29:14 READING TO READ CHAPTER 14.
18:29:16 CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
18:29:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:29:19 MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
18:29:21 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
18:29:22 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
18:29:24 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
18:29:25 OPPOSED?
18:29:28 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
18:29:29 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:29:30 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION --
18:29:36 [ APPLAUSE ]
18:29:44 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
18:30:15 >> MARTY, IF I MAY, ON NUMBER THREE --
18:30:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE STILL HAVE OTHER BUSINESS TO DO.
18:30:37 WE'LL SEE YOU ALL THERE.
18:30:41 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE STILL HAVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CLERK
18:30:43 OF THE SETTING OF THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION PUBLIC
18:30:46 HEARING.
18:30:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:30:52 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON AUGUST 23rd AT
18:30:57 9 A.M.
18:31:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 9:30?
18:31:03 >>THE CLERK: 9:30 A.M.
18:31:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE STATUS REPORT ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:31:14 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 1 IS PRESENT
18:31:17 SO IF WE CAN PLEASE PROCEED WITH THAT CASE, I WOULD
18:31:19 APPRECIATE IT.
18:31:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:31:21 ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:31:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 1, REZ 18-35, REZONING REQUEST
18:31:26 FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
18:31:28 THIS APPLICATION WAS CONTINUED FROM YOUR JUNE 14th MEETING
18:31:32 AND A-- TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE
18:31:36 NEIGHBORS TO TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
18:31:40 A REVISED SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
18:31:42 I BELIEVE YOU HAVE COPIES OF IT NOW.
18:31:48 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
18:31:50 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
18:31:52 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:31:53 WE'RE IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS CASE.
18:31:57 THE SUBJECT SITE, THERE IS TRANSIT AVAILABLE WITHIN THE
18:32:01 SURROUNDING AREA, THE SOUTH TAMPA FLEX SERVES THIS SUBJECT
18:32:05 SITE.
18:32:06 ON TO THE AERIAL, THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE.
18:32:13 IT'S AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF WEST CYPRESS STREET AND
18:32:17 NORTH MacDILL AVENUE.
18:32:19 THIS IS MacDILL.
18:32:20 CYPRESS.
18:32:25 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:32:25 >> WE'RE NOT LAUGHING AT YOU.
18:32:30 >> THE POLICEMAN TOOK A LOOK.
18:32:32 HE THOUGHT WE WERE EMPTY.
18:32:36 >>DAVID HEY: I KNOW WHERE TO GO AFTER THIS MEETING.
18:32:38 THAT'S FOR SURE.
18:32:39 AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A CLUSTER OF NONRESIDENTIAL
18:32:42 DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS INTERSECTION.
18:32:45 TO THE NORTH, THE TAMPA LETTER CARRIER HALL, THERE IS A
18:32:48 SMALL COMMERCIAL PLAZA, AND THEN SOME MEDICAL OFFICES TO THE
18:32:51 WEST.
18:32:51 AND THEN SURROUNDING THE SITE OVERALL IS RESIDENTIAL.
18:32:57 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
18:33:02 PARCELS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST CYPRESS ARE ALL THAT
18:33:05 RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
18:33:08 AND THEN TO THE NORTH IT IS A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE UNDER
18:33:11 THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 REPRESENTED BY THAT PINK COLOR.
18:33:16 AND THEN SOUTH OF THE SITE AND TO THE NORTH IN THAT TAN IS
18:33:19 THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
18:33:23 THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED THAT RESIDENTIAL 20, WHICH
18:33:27 ALLOWS A LOW-TO-MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES UP TO
18:33:33 LIMITED NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL USES.
18:33:35 PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SUBJECT SITE MEETS THE
18:33:39 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA SINCE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR
18:33:43 COMMERCIAL USES IN 2004.
18:33:44 UNDER ZO 447.
18:33:48 PD WILL FURTHER THE POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE
18:33:50 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY ALLOWING A DIVERSE MIX OF USES FOR THE
18:33:53 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:33:54 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PROPOSED EXPANSION IS A
18:33:57 MEDIUM SCALE AND WILL CONTINUE TO COMPLEMENT WEST CYPRESS
18:34:01 STREET AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CENTRAL
18:34:05 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
18:34:06 AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
18:34:09 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH
18:34:12 THE PROVISIONS OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:34:15 THANK YOU.
18:34:21 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, LAND DEVELOPMENT
18:34:22 COORDINATION.
18:34:24 YOU SAW THIS AT YOUR JUNE MEETING.
18:34:25 I WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE.
18:34:27 ABBYE HANDLED THE CASE FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
18:34:30 AT THE MEETING THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY THE
18:34:34 NEIGHBORS ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES.
18:34:35 THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN REVISED ACCORDINGLY.
18:34:39 THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT RETENTION PONDS THAT WERE A PART OF
18:34:42 THE ORIGINAL PD THAT WERE NEVER CONSTRUCTED.
18:34:45 AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CURRENT PD, THERE ARE TWO LARGE
18:34:50 RETENTION PONDS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED.
18:34:53 ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE NEIGHBORS WAS THE
18:34:55 DUMPSTER THAT WAS IN THE BACK AND THE SHORT ROADWAY WIDTH OF
18:35:01 STATE STREET WITH THE GARBAGE TRUCK WOULD COME IN TO
18:35:06 COLLECT, THEY WOULD INADVERTENTLY GO ON TO PRIVATE PROPERTY
18:35:09 OF THE NEIGHBORS.
18:35:09 TO REMEDY THAT MATTER, WE'VE MOVED THE DUMPSTER UP HERE SO
18:35:14 THERE SHOULD BE NO SOLID WASTE TRUCKS ACCESSING STATE STREET
18:35:21 FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
18:35:22 THE THIRD CHANGE THAT WAS COMPLETED WAS THIS FUTURE BUILDING
18:35:28 ADDITION WAS GOING TO BE 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
18:35:30 THEY REDUCED IT TO 3,000-SQUARE-FOOT.
18:35:33 AS A RESULT, THE PARKING WAIVER REDUCTION REQUEST FROM 33%
18:35:37 DOWN TO 27%.
18:35:38 OTHER THAN THAT STAFF DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT STILL BECAUSE
18:35:45 THEY HAVE A 27% PARKING REDUCTION BASED ON THEIR PROPOSED
18:35:49 USES.
18:35:52 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:35:54 READING, BUT THE MAIN INCONSISTENCY AGAIN WAS BECAUSE OF
18:35:58 PARKING REDUCTION AND SOME OF THE SUBSTANDARD
18:36:01 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE EXISTING SITE.
18:36:02 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME SINCE THE LAST MEETING?
18:36:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
18:36:12 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
18:36:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:36:14 THE APPLICANT?
18:36:15 >> MY NAME IS GLEN OTTLEY.
18:36:31 5646 TRANQUILITY OAK DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
18:36:34 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
18:36:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, ANYONE PLANNING -- IN
18:36:41 THE AUDIENCE PLAN ON SPEAKING THAT HAS NOT BEEN SWORN,
18:36:45 PLEASE STAND.
18:36:45 IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK AND HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE
18:36:49 STAND.
18:36:52 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
18:37:00 >> AT OUR LAST READING, WE HAD SOME CHANGES AS YOU HAD
18:37:09 ALREADY EXPLAINED.
18:37:10 I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ANY OF THAT.
18:37:13 WE'RE REQUESTING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE OWNER AND THE
18:37:18 NEIGHBORS THAT WERE PRESENT.
18:37:19 THAT WAS DONE.
18:37:20 AND I THINK I BELIEVE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT.
18:37:25 THEY ASKED US, THERE WAS ONE ISSUE WITH THE PARKING AT THE
18:37:30 BACK WHERE THE CARS DRIVE ACROSS AND GO ONTO THE PROPERTY,
18:37:35 AND IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT A HEDGE WOULD BE PUT UP THERE SO
18:37:39 THEY HAVE A -- TO HELP DRIVERS NOT GO TOO FAR.
18:37:43 THE HEDGE WILL BE PLANTED BY THE OWNER AND MAINTAINED BY THE
18:37:48 OWNER SO THAT THE NEIGHBOR WAS OKAY WITH THAT.
18:37:53 OTHER THAN WHAT'S NOT ON THE DRAWING, THERE WAS AGREEMENT
18:37:56 THAT WE WOULD PUT SOME GUTTER IN ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING
18:38:00 TO DIRECT ALL THE FLOW OF THE WATER DIRECTLY TO THE
18:38:03 CATCHMENT PONDS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WATER RUN INTO
18:38:08 THEIR PROPERTY.
18:38:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
18:38:12 >> SIR, YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE HEDGE.
18:38:14 WHERE IS THE HEDGE GOING TO BE?
18:38:16 IT'S GOING TO BE ALONG STATE STREET WHICH IS NEXT TO WHERE
18:38:20 YOUR ANGLED PARKING IS AT?
18:38:23 >> YES.
18:38:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF YOU CAN POINT THAT OUT.
18:38:26 IT WILL BE ON WHICH SIDE?
18:38:27 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET THERE?
18:38:29 >> ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, WHICH IS REALLY ON THE
18:38:33 NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
18:38:34 BUT THEY HAVE AGREED THAT WE CAN PUT THE HEDGE AND MAINTAIN
18:38:39 IT.
18:38:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK THAT THE RETENTION PONDS ARE NOT
18:38:42 THERE NOW.
18:38:43 >> NO, THEY ARE NOT THERE NOW.
18:38:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PUT IN.
18:38:46 >> YES, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE DONE.
18:38:48 WE HAVE TO SUBMIT DRAWINGS FOR BUILDING, CIVIL DRAWINGS TO
18:38:52 HAVE ALL THAT DONE.
18:38:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AS THE OWNER AND, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT
18:38:56 ON THE SITE PLAN, WE DON'T APPROVE THE AGREEMENTS THAT YOU
18:38:59 HAVE WITH OTHER PARTIES.
18:39:02 ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A SIGNED AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER
18:39:05 PARTY ABOUT THE HEDGE?
18:39:07 BECAUSE THE HEDGE IS BEING BUILT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
18:39:11 THAT'S KIND OF AN ISSUE THAT -- NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND IT.
18:39:14 I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE APPROVE THESE THINGS, THE HEDGE,
18:39:17 WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA, WE DON'T APPROVE THAT PART OF
18:39:22 IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON YOUR SITE PLAN.
18:39:24 AND THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN PUT IT ON YOUR SITE PLAN BECAUSE
18:39:28 YOU DON'T OWN THAT PIECE OF LAND.
18:39:29 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ONE THING TO SAY YOU'RE
18:39:32 GOING TO DO SOMETHING.
18:39:33 IT'S ANOTHER THING TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE BETWEEN TWO
18:39:37 PARTIES IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE NOT ONLY PUTTING IT IN BUT
18:39:40 MAINTAINING IT.
18:39:40 THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
18:39:41 SINCE I WASN'T IN THE MEETING WITH YOU AND THE OWNER AND THE
18:39:45 NEIGHBORS, I THINK WE NEED OF SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
18:39:48 AND I GUESS THEY CAN ANSWER FOR THAT, TOO, BUT I JUST WANT
18:39:51 TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD, IF WE AGREE TO THIS IT HAS
18:39:55 NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HEDGE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
18:39:58 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
18:39:58 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
18:40:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
18:40:05 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 1?
18:40:28 >> I'M MARGARET HERO.
18:40:30 I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT
18:40:33 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
18:40:35 WHERE HE'S GOING TO PUT A HEDGE IN, BUT I DO WANT THAT IN
18:40:40 WRITING THAT SHE WILL MAINTAIN IT.
18:40:43 THE DUMPSTER IS ALMOST DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR DRIVEWAY, AND
18:40:51 IT'S VERY HARD TO GET IN AND OUT.
18:40:53 AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MOVED SINCE WE MET LAST TIME.
18:40:56 IT'S STILL THERE.
18:41:03 >> ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOT MOVED --
18:41:07 >> IT ISN'T MOVED YET.
18:41:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: GOT MOVED FROM WHERE IT WAS ON STATE TO THE
18:41:12 -- NO?
18:41:13 >> NOT YET.
18:41:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.
18:41:22 WE'LL ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
18:41:23 >> ALSO, SOMETHING THAT I WAS QUESTIONING BEFORE WAS WHAT
18:41:27 SHE INTENDED TO GO IN THERE.
18:41:29 SHE'S HAD MANY DIFFERENT TENANTS IN THE BUILDING.
18:41:35 SOME WERE OKAY.
18:41:37 SOME WERE TERRIBLE.
18:41:39 I MEAN, WE HAD ROTTEN FOOD JUST RIGHT BEHIND OUR DRIVEWAY.
18:41:45 THAT IS NO LONGER THERE.
18:41:48 BUT THE DUMPSTER IS THERE.
18:41:50 BUT SHE'S ASKING FOR REZONING FOR DAY CARE AND FOR PERSONAL
18:41:59 SERVICES.
18:42:00 AND I QUESTIONED WHAT THAT WAS.
18:42:02 THE DAY CARE THAT SHE'S SAYING SHE INTENDS TO PUT THERE OR
18:42:08 ALLOW TO BE PUT THERE IS SENIOR DAY CARE, WHERE THEY WOULD
18:42:13 BE DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME.
18:42:20 THE PERSONAL SERVICES, ANY KIND OF -- WELL, PERSONAL --
18:42:32 MASSAGES AND THAT KIND OF THING, BUT THAT'S ALL FINE AND
18:42:39 GOOD.
18:42:39 I JUST WAS QUESTIONING THOSE THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO GO
18:42:45 IN.
18:42:46 BECAUSE WE'VE HAD REALLY BAD TENANTS BACK THERE.
18:42:50 THEY ARE ASKING TO HAVE AN ADDITION PUT ONTO THE BUILDING,
18:43:00 AND THAT'S FINE.
18:43:01 THEY ARE GOING TO PUT THE DUMPSTER IN FRONT OF THAT
18:43:04 ADDITION.
18:43:04 I GUESS BECAUSE THE ADDITION HASN'T BEEN PUT THERE YET, THEY
18:43:10 HAVEN'T MOVED THE DUMPSTER, BUT IT IS BAD.
18:43:15 ANOTHER ISSUE WE HAVE IS THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING.
18:43:23 MY TIME IS UP?
18:43:25 OKAY.
18:43:28 THEY BACK STRAIGHT INTO OUR PROPERTY.
18:43:35 MY HUSBAND HAD TO PUT BEAMS UP.
18:43:39 THE WATER WAS FLOWING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ONTO OUR
18:43:46 PROPERTY, ACTUALLY GOING UNDER THE HOUSE.
18:43:50 THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CORRECT THAT CONCRETE SLAB THAT'S THERE
18:44:00 NOW AND REDIRECT THE WATER SO IT WON'T COME ONTO OUR
18:44:04 PROPERTY.
18:44:05 BUT ALSO THE PARKING NEEDS TO BE ANGLED IF THEY PARK THERE
18:44:11 AT ALL BECAUSE THEY BACK RIGHT INTO OUR PROPERTY.
18:44:16 THE STREET IS VERY NARROW, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM THERE
18:44:22 REALLY.
18:44:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MUCH MORE YOU GOT TO TELL US?
18:44:31 >> WELL, NOT TOO MUCH.
18:44:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MS. SAMANIEGO, IF YOU COULD COME UP.
18:44:38 I THINK MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU BROUGHT UP,
18:44:40 MS. SAMANIEGO, WHEN SHE WAS PRESENTING IT TO US HAS HAD
18:44:44 THOSE WERE -- HAS SAID THOSE WOULD BE RESOLVED.
18:44:48 RETENTION PONDS PUT IN, THE WATER IS SUPPOSED TO BE
18:44:51 REDIRECTED, AND THE CURRENT PLACEMENT OF WHERE THE TRASH
18:44:59 RECEPTACLE IS AT IS GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
18:45:02 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MS. SAMANIEGO SAYS IT ON THE
18:45:05 RECORD BECAUSE I'M NOT AS SMART AS SHE IS AND SHE KNOWS MORE
18:45:10 ABOUT IT THAN I DO.
18:45:10 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT.
18:45:14 IS THAT RIGHT, MS. SAMANIEGO?
18:45:15 YES, AND THE PARKING DOES APPEAR TO BE ANGLED.
18:45:19 ON THE NEW PLAN, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE APPROVING
18:45:23 NOW, NOT THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT YOU SAW.
18:45:25 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.
18:45:27 THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED PLAN.
18:45:30 THE DUMPSTER WILL MOVE UP FRONT.
18:45:32 THE PARKING SPACES ARE GOING TO BE ANGLED.
18:45:34 AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN THE RETENTION
18:45:39 POND.
18:45:39 LEGALLY, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS
18:45:42 BEFORE THEY CAN GET BUILDING PERMITS TO ACTUALLY DO ANY OF
18:45:44 THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
18:45:45 SO THAT'S WHY THE DUMPSTER HASN'T MOVED YET.
18:45:48 THEY HAVE TO GET THIS APPROVAL AND THEN BUILDING PERMITS TO
18:45:50 PUT THE ENCLOSURE FOR THE DUMPSTER, TO PUT THE POND IN AND
18:45:55 STRIPE THE PARKING LOT.
18:45:56 ONCE THEY GET PAST THIS STAGE, THEN THEY HAVE TO GO RIGHT TO
18:46:00 PERMITTING TO GET THIS DONE.
18:46:02 >> WELL, THE RETENTION PONDS WERE ON THE PREVIOUS REZONING
18:46:06 AND IT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, WHICH I HAVE A QUESTION
18:46:11 ABOUT THE RETENTION PONDS.
18:46:13 I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A MOSQUITO-MAKING POND.
18:46:16 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE CAN BE AN AERATOR.
18:46:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION THAT STAFF CAN ANSWER
18:46:24 IN TERMS OF WHEN WE ALLOW FOR RETENTION POND TO COME IN.
18:46:29 WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE IT IS
18:46:31 SPRAYED.
18:46:31 TYPICALLY THE COUNTY SPRAYS FOR MOSQUITOES THROUGHOUT THE
18:46:34 COUNTY.
18:46:35 WE DON'T HAVE -- THE CITY DOESN'T SPRAY FOR MOSQUITOES.
18:46:38 SO I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY TAKEN CARE OF BY THE COUNTY.
18:46:41 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT, MS. SAMANIEGO,
18:46:44 CONCERNING THAT.
18:46:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, YES, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE
18:46:50 A MOSQUITO CONTROL PROGRAM THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.
18:46:52 AND THEN THE RETENTION POND WOULD HAVE TO MEET ALL CURRENT
18:46:56 STANDARDS.
18:46:58 >> THERE ARE TWO RETENTION PONDS.
18:47:00 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
18:47:03 >> TRY TO GET IT TO BE LIKE A FOUNTAIN TO KEEP THE WATER
18:47:07 CIRCULATING.
18:47:09 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE PLAN.
18:47:13 >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID.
18:47:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THAT IS A COMMITMENT HE MADE.
18:47:17 THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
18:47:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT WE CANNOT GET
18:47:23 INVOLVED IN.
18:47:24 THAT'S ON YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
18:47:26 WE CANNOT GET BETWEEN TWO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS MAKING AN
18:47:30 AGREEMENT.
18:47:31 THAT IS NOT ON THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
18:47:36 WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE ON, THAT'S BETWEEN YOURSELF AND THE
18:47:38 PROPERTY OWNER.
18:47:39 THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE HEDGES THAT
18:47:43 THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD.
18:47:45 I GUESS THEY WILL.
18:47:47 THEY SAY THEY WILL MAINTAIN IT.
18:47:49 I HOPE THEY WILL.
18:47:50 THAT IS BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES, YOURSELVES.
18:47:52 NOT US.
18:47:56 >> FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IF IT'S STILL GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.
18:47:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THAT IS THE AGREEMENT -- YOU BETTER
18:48:01 SIGN AN AGREEMENT.
18:48:02 IN THAT AGREEMENT, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU, WRITE LANGUAGE FROM
18:48:06 YOURSELF THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THE PARTY AT FAULT
18:48:09 SHOULD PAY FOR ALL LEGAL FEES.
18:48:11 >> CAN THAT BE PUT IN WRITING?
18:48:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ATTORNEY IS LAUGHING SO HE CAN
18:48:16 COLLECT THAT --
18:48:17 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:48:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU CAN WORK THAT OUT.
18:48:23 YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
18:48:24 WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR YOU.
18:48:25 >> ONE OTHER THING --
18:48:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: LET THIS BE THE LAST ONE.
18:48:29 >> IT IS THE LAST ONE.
18:48:30 PROMISE.
18:48:31 I SUGGESTED ADDING A GUTTER TO THE LARGE LONG ROOF AND
18:48:37 REDIRECTING THAT WATER BECAUSE THAT COMES RIGHT ONTO THE
18:48:40 CONCRETE INTO OUR PROPERTY.
18:48:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S ALL ON THAT SITE PLAN THAT THEY TALKED
18:48:46 TO YOU ABOUT.
18:48:47 EVERYTHING IS ON THAT SITE PLAN THEY PLAN ON DOING.
18:48:50 LIKE STAFF JUST TOLD YOU, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS FIRST.
18:48:55 AND SO IF YOU ALLOW US TO VOTE, WE CAN TRY AND GET THIS DONE
18:49:03 AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY.
18:49:06 >> ONCE YOU VOTE AND IT PASSES, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT?
18:49:10 I WANT TO GET THAT DUMPSTER AWAY FROM THERE.
18:49:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.
18:49:15 WE WILL VOTE ON IT ONCE AND IN TWO WEEKS WE VOTE ON IT A
18:49:19 SECOND TIME.
18:49:20 IF WE VOTE AN APPROVAL THE SECOND TIME, THEY ARE ABLE TO GET
18:49:22 THE PERMITS AND BE ABLE TO BUILD AND DO EVERYTHING ELSE.
18:49:26 THAT'S WHEN THE PROCESS STARTS REALLY.
18:49:28 SO IT WILL BE A WHILE.
18:49:30 THANK YOU.
18:49:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
18:49:34 1?
18:49:37 >> BEFORE YOU CLOSE.
18:49:39 IF I COULD ASK THE PETITIONER ONE THING VERY QUICK BEFORE WE
18:49:43 CLOSE.
18:49:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
18:49:44 PETITIONER.
18:49:47 >> GLEN OTTLEY.
18:49:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:49:50 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AGREEMENT THAT THE OWNER OF THE
18:49:54 BUILDING IS GOING TO GO FORWARD, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY
18:49:57 CONTROL OVER THAT AT ALL, YOU'VE MADE A COMMITMENT HERE
18:50:00 PUBLICLY THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO DO.
18:50:03 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN THE TWO-WEEK TIME FRAME BETWEEN
18:50:07 WHATEVER HAPPENS NOW AND WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THE SECOND ONE
18:50:10 THAT THAT BE PROVIDED TO US.
18:50:12 I KNOW THERE'S ONE VOTE IN PARTICULAR THAT IS NOT GOING TO
18:50:14 BE IN FAVOR OF IT IF THAT IS NOT SHOWN TO US.
18:50:19 SO TRY AND GET THAT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE EVEN
18:50:22 THOUGH IT IS NOT PART OF THIS, I THINK THAT YOU'VE MADE A
18:50:28 PUBLIC STATEMENT TO THAT EFFECT AND WE WANT TO SEE IT.
18:50:30 I DO AT LEAST.
18:50:31 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE.
18:50:35 >> YEAH, I'LL MAKE THE ARRANGEMENT.
18:50:37 WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT SHE HAS A COMPANY THAT COMES AND DO
18:50:41 ALL THE HEDGES AROUND THERE.
18:50:43 SHE SAYS ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS TELL THEM --
18:50:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGREEMENT.
18:50:49 >> I'LL MAKE THE ARRANGEMENT.
18:51:01 >>KRISTIN MORA: KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
18:51:03 EVERYTHING IS FINE, THANK YOU.
18:51:05 OTHER THAN IT'S VERY HOT.
18:51:06 TO BE CLEAR, THE AGREEMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE
18:51:10 ENFORCED BY THE CITY AND IT SHOULD NOT BE A PART OF THIS
18:51:14 COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO VOTE ON
18:51:17 THIS.
18:51:18 IT IS JUST INFORMATIONAL AND HELPFUL BETWEEN THOSE TWO
18:51:20 NEIGHBORS TO WORK OUT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM.
18:51:23 THAT SHOULD NOT ENTER INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION ABOUT WHETHER
18:51:27 OR NOT TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
18:51:30 I WILL ALSO MENTION FOR THE RECORD, THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR
18:51:33 RETENTION POND CURRENTLY.
18:51:34 THEY NEED TO PUT IT IN IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEY'LL NEED TO
18:51:38 PUT IT IN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS NEW PLAN.
18:51:42 IF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD BE CALLED
18:51:45 AND CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN ALSO BE CALLED IN THE FUTURE IF
18:51:47 THEY DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE NEW PLAN IF THAT IS APPROVED.
18:51:50 I'LL JUST SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD FOR EVERYONE'S CLARITY.
18:51:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
18:51:56 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
18:52:00 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN, SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO,
18:52:03 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE, AYE.
18:52:06 OPPOSED?
18:52:06 ALL RIGHT.
18:52:07 MR. MIRANDA.
18:52:08 KIND OF ENOUGH TO READ NUMBER 1.
18:52:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 1, REZ18-35, AN ORDINANCE
18:52:16 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE
18:52:19 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3040 WEST
18:52:22 CYPRESS STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
18:52:25 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
18:52:27 CLASSIFICATION PD, (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE,
18:52:29 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL, RETAIL, CHURCH, PHARMACY), TO PD
18:52:31 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL
18:52:31 OFFICE, DAYCARE, RETAIL SALES, SPECIALTY GOODS, SCHOOL,
18:52:34 PHARMACY, PERSONAL SERVICES, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY),
18:52:43 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:52:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
18:52:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
18:53:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
18:53:02 SECOND BY MS. CAPIN.
18:53:03 ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
18:53:04 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
18:53:06 OPPOSED.
18:53:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:53:11 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE AUGUST 23rd AT
18:53:14 9:30 A.M.
18:53:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 3.
18:53:25 >> RYAN MANASSE.
18:53:28 >> IF I MAY, I HAVE TO PRECLUDE MYSELF FROM VOTING ON THIS
18:53:31 DUE TO THE FACT THAT I HAVE AN OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN THE
18:53:33 PROPERTY THAT IS NEAR THAT.
18:53:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSTAIN.
18:53:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
18:53:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU WILL BE FILING AT
18:53:45 NEXT WEEK'S MEETING.
18:53:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
18:54:43 [ENCODER DROP]
18:54:45 >> THIS PETITION IS NOT CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE.
18:54:48 PROPOSED AB 2,915 SQUARE FEET INDOOR, 614 SQUARE FEET
18:54:53 OUTSIDE FOR A TOTAL OF 3,529 SQUARE FEET.
18:54:56 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN STATES NO AB SALES AREA WITHIN THE
18:55:00 PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE.
18:55:02 HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 14 AS MAY BE
18:55:06 AMENDED AND ALL PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 SHALL
18:55:09 BE KEPT ON-SITE.
18:55:11 COPY OF ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN, ALCOHOL
18:55:13 BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT.
18:55:14 THE WAIVER REQUESTED FOR THE PETITION COME FROM SECTION
18:55:19 27132 FOR DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, ONE FROM
18:55:23 RESIDENTIAL FROM 250 FEET TO 48 FEET, AND FROM AB SALES
18:55:28 ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 250 FEET TO 16 FEET.
18:55:30 LAND DEVELOPMENT DID FIND THAT INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE
18:55:33 DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS LISTED.
18:55:36 THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS IN THE SAME VICINITY
18:55:42 OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
18:55:44 VALLARTA'S MEXICAN RESTAURANT ON EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD AND
18:55:48 UNIVERSITY COMMERCIAL ZONING 4 COP IS THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
18:55:52 LICENSE THEY HOLD.
18:55:53 AND IT'S AT 16 FEET.
18:55:54 THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AT 5135
18:56:00 STERLING MANOR DRIVE.
18:56:02 PD AND AT 48 FEET.
18:56:03 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR VILLAGE AND
18:56:08 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
18:56:19 >> IS THIS A SMALL INCREASE IN THE SALES AREA?
18:56:23 >> THERE WAS A SMALL INCREASE IN SALES AREA BUT PROBABLY A
18:56:26 DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE SURVEY FROM THE PREVIOUS TO THIS
18:56:28 CURRENT.
18:56:28 WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING IT A CHANGE OF USE.
18:56:30 REALLY, THE CHANGE HERE IS COMING FROM RESTAURANT TO A SMALL
18:56:33 VENUE.
18:56:34 THIS IS BEHIND THE STRIP CENTER.
18:56:46 YOU SEE THERE IS AN ACCESS WAY.
18:56:48 THIS IS A WALL COVERED IN HEDGES.
18:56:50 CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS RIGHT BEHIND HERE.
18:56:56 THIS IS BEHIND THE FAT RABBIT.
18:57:01 AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE FROM BRUCE B. DOWNS.
18:57:05 HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP.
18:57:11 THE X RIGHT HERE IS RELATIVELY WHERE THE FAT RABBIT IS AND
18:57:15 THEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THE OTHER AB SALES
18:57:17 ESTABLISHMENT IN THAT STRIP CENTER.
18:57:20 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:57:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
18:57:23 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
18:57:24 MR. BENTLEY.
18:57:35 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
18:57:37 MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA, 33602.
18:57:41 I'VE BEEN SWORN.
18:57:42 I REPRESENT BOX AND BEAR HOLDINGS DOING BUSINESS AS THE FAT
18:57:47 RABBIT PUB.
18:57:49 LAST MAY I BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE LOCATION FOR
18:57:54 THE SALE OF BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR IN CONNECTION WITH A
18:57:58 RESTAURANT.
18:57:59 SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE 15-ACRE SHOPPING
18:58:03 CENTER THAT IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY PUBLIX.
18:58:06 IT'S ABOUT 176,000 SQUARE FEET.
18:58:08 THE TENANT SPACE IS ROUGHLY 3,000 SQUARE FEET.
18:58:12 IN TERMS OF THE ONLY WAIVERS WE REQUIRE SEPARATION WHICH IS
18:58:17 ANOTHER RESTAURANT IN THE CENTER, AND THEN ALSO FROM THE
18:58:21 RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE EAST
18:58:24 OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:58:26 IN TERMS OF MITIGATION, WE FRONT THE CENTER.
18:58:29 WE HAVE ABOUT 300 SQUARE FEET, A LITTLE OUTSIDE AREA FOR
18:58:33 DINERS WITHOUT MUSIC.
18:58:36 THE ACTUAL TRAVEL DISTANCE TO GET TO THE RESIDENTIALLY ZONED
18:58:39 PROPERTY, YOU'D HAVE TO GO OUT TO BRUCE B. DOWNS.
18:58:42 IT'S PROBABLY A HALF MILE BEFORE YOU GOT TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
18:58:44 WHAT HAPPENED BASICALLY OR DIDN'T HAPPEN IS WHEN WE GOT THE
18:58:49 APPROVAL LAST YEAR, WE IDENTIFIED THE USE AS RESTAURANT, BUT
18:58:53 WE FAILED TO PUT ON THE SITE PLAN SMALL VENUE.
18:58:57 CONSEQUENTLY THAT MADE THE LOCATION SUBJECT TO 51%
18:59:02 REQUIREMENT.
18:59:03 SO IT'S KIND OF ANALOGOUS TO THE DUCKY SITUATION.
18:59:07 SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN, THE ONE THAT RYAN REVIEWED
18:59:11 AND THE ONES BEFORE YOU, YOU CAN SEE THAT NOTWITHSTANDING
18:59:15 CHARACTERIZED AS A SMALL VENUE NOW, IT SAYS PROPOSED USE, IT
18:59:19 SAYS RESTAURANT.
18:59:19 AND IT'S GOT A FULL KITCHEN AND ALL THE GOOD STUFF LIKE
18:59:24 THAT.
18:59:25 IT IS A RESTAURANT.
18:59:26 IT CANNOT MEET THE 51%.
18:59:27 IT GETS PRETTY CLOSE.
18:59:29 I'VE GOT THE MENUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S VERY
18:59:34 HIGHLY REGARDED AND NOW A PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED RESTAURANT
18:59:37 AND FAMILY PUB OUT THERE.
18:59:39 SO NOTHING IS CHANGING IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
18:59:42 IT'S STILL THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.
18:59:44 RYAN MENTIONED A NOMINAL INCREASE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD
18:59:48 LEFT OFF INADVERTENTLY THE STORAGE AREA.
18:59:50 IT'S ABOUT HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OR SO.
18:59:52 I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.
18:59:55 BUT LOCATED BACK HERE, WE INCLUDED THAT.
18:59:58 SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
19:00:02 YOUR APPROVAL.
19:00:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT.
19:00:06 I KNEW THAT THE REASON WHY HAD TO BE -- BECAUSE IT DIDN'T
19:00:09 MAKE ANY SENSE TO CHANGE IT FROM RESTAURANT TO SMALL VENUE
19:00:12 THAT YOU COULDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
19:00:13 THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED IT MUST HAVE BEEN.
19:00:16 BECAUSE A YEAR AFTER OPENING, THEY'VE BEEN OPEN ABOUT A
19:00:18 YEAR, HAVEN'T THEY?
19:00:20 >> IT'S BEEN A YEAR THIS JULY.
19:00:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: A YEAR AFTER OPENING THEY REALIZE, OH, WAIT A
19:00:24 MINUTE, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT A RESTAURANT.
19:00:26 WE SELL MORE LIQUOR.
19:00:27 I FIGURED THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
19:00:29 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP RIGHT AWAY SO WE KNEW
19:00:31 EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON.
19:00:32 >> THANK YOU.
19:00:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
19:00:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
19:00:35 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
19:00:40 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
19:00:41 >> SECOND.
19:00:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
19:00:44 SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN TO CLOSE ITEM NUMBER 3.
19:00:47 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
19:00:48 OPPOSED.
19:00:49 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, WOULD YOU BE KIND TO READ NUMBER 3?
19:00:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
19:00:56 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
19:00:58 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S 2 FOR
19:01:02 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
19:01:05 PREMISES ONLY, MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
19:01:08 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR.
19:01:11 AND THAT CERTAIN LOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 16029 TAMPA
19:01:18 PALMS BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
19:01:23 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
19:01:25 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
19:01:28 REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2017-76, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
19:01:33 DATE.
19:01:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
19:01:36 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
19:01:38 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
19:01:39 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
19:01:41 OPPOSED?
19:01:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
19:01:45 THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION -- CORRECTION.
19:01:51 MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA ABSTAINING.
19:01:55 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON AUGUST 23rd AT
19:01:58 9:30 A.M.
19:02:01 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:02:01 TAKE CARE.
19:02:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 4.
19:02:03 >>Ryan Manasse: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:02:09 ITEM NUMBER 4 IS PETITION AB2-18-18, LOCATED AT 4426 WEST
19:02:15 GANDY BOULEVARD.
19:02:16 THE CURRENT ZONING IS CI AND CG.
19:02:18 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS UMU-60.
19:02:23 THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE PLANNING STAFF HAS REVIEWED
19:02:26 THE APPLICATION AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA
19:02:28 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
19:02:29 MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ARE NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST
19:02:32 AND SECOND READING.
19:02:33 THE 4426 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD SITE IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR
19:02:38 A RESTAURANT, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON
19:02:40 PREMISES.
19:02:41 THE PROPOSED USE FOR THIS PETITION IS A RESTAURANT BEER,
19:02:44 WINE, AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES.
19:02:47 THE MOST NOTABLE CHANGE IN THE NEW PETITION TO THE ACTIVE
19:02:50 ORDINANCE IS THE INCREASE IN AB SALES AREA FOR THE OUTSIDE
19:02:53 AB SALES AREA ADDITION.
19:02:55 THERE'S AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY WHICH REQUIRES MORE PARKING
19:02:59 SPACES FOR THE RESTAURANT.
19:03:00 THE PROPOSED AB SALES AREA INSIDE IS 4,959 SQUARE FEET, 390
19:03:06 SQUARE FEET OUTSIDE FOR A TOTAL OF 5,349 SQUARE FEET.
19:03:09 THE OCCUPANCY IS AT 250 PEOPLE, REQUIRING 63 PARKING SPACES.
19:03:15 AND THERE ARE 50 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED.
19:03:18 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN STATES NO AB SALES AREA WITHIN THE
19:03:21 PARKING AND LOADING AREA OR SPACE AND THAT THE HOURS OF
19:03:23 OPERATION ARE LISTED AS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TO
19:03:26 10 P.M., FRIDAY AND SATURDAY 11 A.M. TO 10:30 P.M.
19:03:30 AND SUNDAY 11 A.M. TO 9 P.M.
19:03:32 THE SITE PLAN DOES STATE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND SYSTEM.
19:03:36 THE WAIVERS REQUESTED COME FROM SECTION 27-132 TO REQUIRE
19:03:43 DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL USES FROM 250 FEET TO
19:03:46 60 FEET.
19:03:46 27132 TO REDUCE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FROM OTHER
19:03:52 AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 250 FEET TO 12 FEET.
19:03:56 27283.7 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES
19:04:00 FROM 63 TO 50.
19:04:02 THAT'S A 21% REDUCTION.
19:04:04 SECTION 27283.12 TO REDUCE THE BACKUP WIDTH FROM SIX FEET TO
19:04:10 ZERO.
19:04:10 AND SECTION 27283.12J TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ACCESS TO
19:04:15 A LOCAL STREET.
19:04:17 AND THAT LOCAL STREET IS SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET.
19:04:20 LAND DEVELOPMENT DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO 272837 THE
19:04:25 REQUIRED PARKING FROM 63 TO 50 SPACES, 21% REDUCTION AND
19:04:31 27132 THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL
19:04:34 USES AND OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
19:04:36 TRANSPORTATION FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AS WELL WITH 27283.7
19:04:43 WITH 63 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND ONLY 50 BEING PROVIDED.
19:04:46 27283.12, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE BACKUP LANES MUST BE A
19:04:53 MINIMUM OF SIX FEET.
19:04:54 SITE PLAN MEASURES ZERO ON THE NORTHEAST END OF THE PARKING
19:04:57 AREA.
19:04:57 AND ALSO FROM TRANSPORTATION 27283.12J, THE CODE REQUIRES
19:05:02 INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM NONRESIDENTIAL PARKING LOTS TO
19:05:05 ACCESS ARTERIAL, COLLECTOR STREETS AND SOUTH HESPERIDES
19:05:09 STREET IS A LOCAL STREET.
19:05:10 THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS HOOTERS RESTAURANTS
19:05:14 RESTAURANT AT 4420 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
19:05:16 ZONED CI AND CG.
19:05:18 HOLDS A 4 COP LICENSE AND IS 12 FEET AWAY.
19:05:21 THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AT
19:05:25 5,000 SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET, RS 50 AT 60 FEET AWAY.
19:05:29 PSTA 100X EXPRESS ROUTE RUNS FROM PINELLAS COUNTY TO
19:05:34 DOWNTOWN TAMPA WEEKDAYS TYPICALLY FROM 4:40 A.M. TO
19:05:38 8:47 P.M.
19:05:39 AND GANDY BOULEVARD IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
19:05:45 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
19:05:47 THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT, INCLUDING THE FRONT
19:05:51 PARKING AREA.
19:05:52 THIS IS THE SAME FRONT PARKING AREA LOOKING WEST.
19:05:55 THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON GANDY, MY CORRECTION THERE.
19:06:00 I THINK MY COMPASS WAS OFF THAT DAY.
19:06:03 AND THAT'S LOOKING WEST ON GANDY.
19:06:05 THIS IS THE REAR PARKING AREA ON THE TOP PHOTO.
19:06:11 AND THIS IS THE BACK SIDE OF THE REAR PARKING AREA WITH THE
19:06:14 CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL BEHIND.
19:06:16 THIS IS JUST A CLOSER PICTURE OF THAT WALL, INCLUDE THE
19:06:19 BUFFER AREA BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL, AND THERE IS HOOTERS
19:06:25 NEXT DOOR.
19:06:26 AND FOR A LITTLE ORIENTATION, HERE IS THE SUBJECT ADDRESS,
19:06:30 RESIDENTIAL, CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
19:06:33 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
19:06:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
19:06:39 PETITIONER?
19:06:48 >> GOOD EVENING.
19:06:49 MY NAME IS AVA KONSTANTINIDIS.
19:06:51 MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE SEPTEMBER OF
19:06:54 2001.
19:06:55 WE HAVE HAD A LIQUOR LICENSE. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO NOW
19:06:58 IS WE HAVE A SMALL PATIO AND WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER ALCOHOLIC
19:07:01 BEVERAGES FOR THOSE WHO ARE OUTSIDE SMOKING, FOR THOSE WHO
19:07:03 BRING THEIR PETS AND WANT TO SIT OUTSIDE, JUST A SMALL
19:07:07 EXTENSION OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
19:07:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
19:07:11 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
19:07:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
19:07:17 >> SECOND.
19:07:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
19:07:21 MR. MANISCALCO, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
19:07:24 OPPOSED.
19:07:25 MR. MANISCALCO.
19:07:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:07:28 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
19:07:32 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
19:07:34 S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES RESTAURANT CONSUMPTION ON
19:07:39 PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
19:07:42 OF ALCOHOL CONTENT BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, CERTAIN LOT, PLOT,
19:07:46 TRACT OF LAND LOCATED ON 4426 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD IN TAMPA,
19:07:51 FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, ALL
19:07:53 ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
19:07:56 REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2002-07, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
19:08:00 DATE.
19:08:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
19:08:04 MR. COHEN.
19:08:05 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION.
19:08:08 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
19:08:09 OPPOSED.
19:08:10 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
19:08:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE AUGUST THE 23rd, 2018
19:08:16 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:08:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
19:08:18 THIS CONCLUDES ONE SECTION OF OUR NIGHT MEETING.
19:08:22 MR. SUAREZ, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
19:08:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, SIR.
19:08:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
19:08:26 >>HARRY COHEN: YES, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
19:08:29 THE FIRST INVOLVES THE ITEM THAT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS RECENTLY
19:08:34 RELATED TO THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW.
19:08:36 LAST WEEK'S SHOOTING IN CLEARWATER OF MARKEIS MCGLOCKTON IS
19:08:41 JUST THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF HOW STAND YOUR GROUND DESTROYS
19:08:45 LIVES AND MAKES US QUESTION WHETHER EITHER THE VICTIM OR THE
19:08:48 SHOOTER WILL GET THE JUSTICE THAT THEY DESERVE.
19:08:50 2017 OXFORD UNIVERSITY STUDY CONCLUDED THAT FLORIDA STAND
19:08:54 YOUR GROUND LAW AND REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON WHEN AND WHERE
19:08:57 INDIVIDUALS CAN USE FORCE IS ASSOCIATED WITH A 24.4%
19:09:02 INCREASE IN HOMICIDE AND A 31.6% INCREASE IN FIREARM-RELATED
19:09:08 HOMICIDE.
19:09:08 A 2015 STUDY OF 238 "STAND YOUR GROUND" CASES REPORTED BY
19:09:15 THE TAMPA BAY TIMES SAYS THAT DEFENDANTS WERE TWICE AS
19:09:18 LIKELY TO BE CONVICTED WHEN THERE WAS A NONWHITE VICTIM
19:09:20 SHOWING A QUANTIFIABLE RACIAL BIAS.
19:09:23 THEREFORE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT AS LONG AS THIS
19:09:27 LAW IS ON THE BOOKS, MORE DAMAGE WILL BE DONE TO LIVES
19:09:31 ACROSS THE STATE AS WELL AS THE INTEGRITY OF OUR JUSTICE
19:09:34 SYSTEM.
19:09:35 WE CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT.
19:09:36 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THIS COUNCIL TO SEND A LETTER TO THE
19:09:39 GOVERNOR ASKING HIM TO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION TO REPEAL IT.
19:09:44 >> SECOND.
19:09:44 >>HARRY COHEN: AND THAT WE SENT A COPY OF THAT LETTER TO ALL
19:09:47 OF OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION.
19:09:48 >> SECOND.
19:09:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
19:09:49 GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
19:09:51 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
19:09:53 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
19:09:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: JUST ONE THING, CHAIR, I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE
19:09:58 COULD, INCLUDE PART OF IT IS CONTACT AND SEND THAT LETTER TO
19:10:03 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI.
19:10:05 AND ASK HER FOR AN INVESTIGATION AS TO THOSE CASES THAT DEAL
19:10:12 WITH "STAND YOUR GROUND" BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU
19:10:19 SAID IN TERMS OF EVIDENCE IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND IT IS THE
19:10:21 ONE PLACE WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT, HOW STAND YOUR GROUND
19:10:26 ACTUALLY AFFECTS PEOPLE.
19:10:26 HAD A CASE IN JACKSONVILLE, WHERE A WOMAN WAS A VICTIM OF
19:10:29 DOMESTIC ABUSE WHO HAD A GUN, SHOT IT IN THE AIR.
19:10:33 SHE GOT ARRESTED.
19:10:34 SHE WAS CONVICTED ONLY BECAUSE SHE SHOT A WEAPON IN A HOUSE.
19:10:40 THINGS LIKE THIS HAVE TO BE CLARIFIED BECAUSE WITHOUT IT,
19:10:43 WE'RE ALL IN DANGER OF BEING OUT SOMEWHERE WITH SOMEONE THAT
19:10:47 HAS A WEAPON AND THINK THEY CAN BRANDISH IT AT ANY MOMENT.
19:10:50 I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU MADE THAT MOTION.
19:10:53 >>HARRY COHEN: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY
19:10:55 AMENDMENT.
19:10:55 I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
19:10:57 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN LEARNING ABOUT THIS, THE WORST
19:11:01 THING THAT'S HAPPENED, HAPPENED IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO WHEN
19:11:03 THEY CHANGED THE BURDEN OF PROOF SO THE PROSECUTORS HAVE TO
19:11:09 ACTUALLY PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THE NEGATION OF THE
19:11:12 DEFENSE BEFORE THEY EVEN GO FORWARD.
19:11:14 AND IT'S REALLY OUTRAGEOUS.
19:11:16 TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
19:11:19 WORKS IN EVERY OTHER AREA OF THE LAW.
19:11:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU HAVE A TIMELINE?
19:11:23 >>HARRY COHEN: I'D LIKE US TO DO IT RIGHT AWAY.
19:11:26 I THINK WE'LL GET THE LETTER WRITTEN RIGHT AWAY FOR YOUR
19:11:29 SIGNATURE.
19:11:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT WOULD BE FINE.
19:11:30 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS?
19:11:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
19:11:43 >> HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE WILL TAKE NOTE.
19:11:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: HOMICIDE UP BY 75% SINCE THEY STARTED IT.
19:11:48 >>HARRY COHEN: THAT'S CORRECT.
19:11:55 >>LUIS VIERA: SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN COHEN SAID BRINGS TO
19:11:56 LIGHT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BURDENS PROSECUTORS.
19:11:57 IT BURDENS VICTIMS.
19:11:59 IT TO ME IS A PROCRIMINAL STATUTE.
19:12:01 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW OUR LEGISLATURE IN TALLAHASSEE THAT
19:12:04 PRIDES ITSELF IN BEING TOUGH ON CRIME CAN SUPPORT THIS.
19:12:08 LOOK AT WHAT JUST RECENTLY HAPPENED A FEW DAYS AGO.
19:12:10 YOU HAVE A YOUNG MAN KILLED IN FRONT OF HIS FIVE-YEAR-OLD
19:12:15 SON, IN FRONT OF HIS GIRLFRIEND.
19:12:18 THAT WOMAN AND HER CHILDREN WENT HOME HAVING TO TELL THEIR
19:12:22 KIDS THEIR DAD IS DEAD, THEY'LL NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN.
19:12:25 AND THERE WILL BE NO JUSTICE BECAUSE OF THE LAW.
19:12:29 THAT MAKES ME WANT TO HOLLER.
19:12:30 MARVIN GAYE.
19:12:33 SORRY.
19:12:33 BUT IT DOES.
19:12:36 IT DOES.
19:12:37 THAT JUST CAME OUT.
19:12:46 BUT IT DOES.
19:12:47 IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.
19:12:48 THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SELF-DEFENSE.
19:12:51 SELF-DEFENSE IS A TIME HONORED TRADITION IN OUR COUNTRY.
19:12:54 PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRIVATE FIREARMS AND ARE PRIVATELY ARMED ARE
19:12:59 TO BE AS I RECENTLY READ, DEFENDERS, NOT AGGRESSOR AND
19:13:04 CERTAINLY NOT ENFORCERS.
19:13:05 WE HAVE PRIVATE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THAT, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE
19:13:10 IN THEIR OWN SICK MINDS LIKE WE SAW HERE TRYING TO BE
19:13:13 CHARLES BRONSON WITH TRAGIC RESULTS.
19:13:16 I SUPPORT THIS AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
19:13:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL OF IT OVER A HANDICAP PARKING SPACE.
19:13:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
19:13:29 THIS "STAND YOUR GROUND" OPENS UP PANDORA'S BOX.
19:13:33 ALL SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY IS I WAS IN FEAR OF MY LIFE.
19:13:36 IN COURT OF LAW IT HAS TO BE PROVEN WHETHER IT WAS OR NOT.
19:13:40 THEN YOU HAVE THE CASES.
19:13:41 I WON'T BRING UP SPECIFIC ONES.
19:13:43 IT'S -- JUSTICE IS NOT SERVED IN MANY CASES.
19:13:49 >> MANY OF US SERVED HERE TOGETHER DURING THE TRAYVON MARTIN
19:13:53 INCIDENT.
19:13:53 THAT WAS SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
19:13:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT'S ACTUALLY WORSE.
19:14:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
19:14:04 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
19:14:07 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
19:14:10 >>HARRY COHEN: TWO OTHER ITEMS VERY BRIEFLY.
19:14:11 FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 6
19:14:14 AT 10:30.
19:14:15 I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. WILL FAULK AND MS. DUNCAN IF THEY CAN BE
19:14:20 HERE.
19:14:20 THIS IS BECAUSE SOLID WASTE IS CONTINUING TO HAVE PROBLEMS
19:14:24 WITH PEOPLE BLOCKING THE STREETS WITH CARS, PARTICULARLY
19:14:28 WITH VENDORS THAT ARE PARKING AND BLOCKING THE RECEPTACLES
19:14:33 FROM BEING ABLE TO BE EMPTIED.
19:14:34 AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE SOME MORE AGGRESSIVE ACTION
19:14:39 TO TRY TO WARN PEOPLE NOT TO DO THIS.
19:14:41 IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED TO ME THAT WE NEED OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT
19:14:43 IT HERE.
19:14:44 I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR THAT --
19:14:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
19:14:48 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
19:14:50 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
19:14:52 FINALLY, I WOULD.
19:14:53 >>HARRY COHEN: FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR STAFF,
19:14:55 MR. McDONAUGH AND HIS STAFF HERE FOR THE DEMONSTRATION
19:14:59 THIS MORNING, IF THEY WOULD EVALUATE THAT AND DETERMINE
19:15:02 WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE THREE-MONTH TRIAL
19:15:04 AND RESPOND VIA A LETTER TO US WITH THEIR FINDINGS.
19:15:08 I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO GIVE US A STAFF REPORT.
19:15:11 JUST ASK THEM TO DO IT WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
19:15:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
19:15:15 MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
19:15:17 SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
19:15:18 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
19:15:20 OPPOSED?
19:15:22 OKAY.
19:15:23 >>HARRY COHEN: THAT'S IT.
19:15:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO?
19:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
19:15:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
19:15:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NO, SIR.
19:15:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
19:15:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RECEIVE AND FILE.
19:15:31 >> SECOND.
19:15:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: HE TRIED.
19:15:36 >> REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY, I MOVE THE RESOLUTION BE DRAFTED
19:15:39 BY CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY RECOGNIZING NOVEMBER, A COUPLE OF
19:15:41 MONTHS EARLY BUT HEY, ADOPTION AWARENESS MONTH.
19:15:44 FURTHER, I REQUEST THAT OUR FRIENDS, MIKE AND MELANIE
19:15:47 GRIFFIN, WHO ARE RECENT PARENTS, ADOPTIVE PARENTS BE PRESENT
19:15:51 DURING THE PRESENTATION OF THE RESOLUTION TO SPEAK TO US
19:15:53 ABOUT THE BENEFITS AND JOYS OF BEING ADOPTIVE PARENTS.
19:15:55 I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO OCCUR ON NOVEMBER 1st.
19:15:59 >> FIVE MINUTES.
19:16:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION AND SECOND.
19:16:06 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
19:16:08 ANY DISCUSSION?
19:16:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXCUSE ME, BUT PARENTS CAN GO ON FOREVER.
19:16:14 I'M A GRANDMOTHER AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
19:16:20 >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
19:16:23 OPPOSED.
19:16:24 MR. MIRANDA.
19:16:25 MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE
19:16:30 ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
19:16:31 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
19:16:33 ALL RIGHT.
19:16:33 WE STAND ADJOURNED.
19:16:35
DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
THE ORIGINAL OF THIS FILE WAS PRODUCED IN ALL CAPITAL
LETTERS AND ANY VARIATION THERETO MAY BE A RESULT OF THIRD
PARTY EDITS AND SOFTWARE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.