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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2018
9:00 A.M.

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8:16:44AM
9:04:27AM >> IT IS MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME A LONG TIME
9:04:30AM FRIEND OF THIS COMMUNITY TO OFFER THE INVOCATION.
9:04:32AM MR. JOSEPH CITRO.
9:04:37AM IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE
9:04:40AM OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:41AM >> LET US PRAY FOR OURSELVES IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD.
9:04:44AM DEAR LORD, WE ARE ALWAYS ASKING THINGS OF YOU.
9:04:48AM TODAY WE WANT TO THANK YOU.
9:04:51AM IN THIS DIVISIVE TIME THAT WE HAVE WHERE PEOPLE ARE FAITHING
9:04:55AM AGAINST ONE ANOTHER FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, WE LIVE IN A CITY
9:04:58AM THAT IS GREAT.
9:05:00AM WE LIVE IN A CITY THAT'S CULTURALLY DIVERSE.
9:05:03AM MANY COLORS.

9:05:04AM MANY LANGUAGES.
9:05:06AM MANY RELIGIOUS.
9:05:07AM MANY LIFESTYLES.
9:05:09AM BUT WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT CITY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US
9:05:14AM AND THE WONDERFUL SMELLS AND AROMAS AND TASTES OF DIFFERENT
9:05:18AM CULTURES THAT WE HAVE.
9:05:20AM DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL WHO USES ITS
9:05:23AM WISDOM AND ITS KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT FOR EVERYONE.
9:05:29AM DEAR LORD, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE PLACE YOUR HANDS
9:05:34AM AND YOUR MIND UPON THOSE WHO PROTECT US, THE FIRE, THE
9:05:38AM POLICE, THE EMS, THOSE WHO PROTECT US, AND PUT YOUR GIVING
9:05:43AM HEART INTO THOSE THAT ARE AFFLICTED IN OUR CITY.
9:05:46AM DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR MAKING TAMPA ONE CITY.
9:05:51AM FOR THIS WE PRAY IN YOUR NAME.
9:05:53AM AMEN.
9:05:53AM [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
9:05:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
9:06:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:06:17AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:06:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:06:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HERE.
9:06:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:06:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:06:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:06:23AM CAN WE GET APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA?

9:06:25AM >> SO MOVED.
9:06:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:06:29AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:06:30AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
9:06:32AM OPPOSED?
9:06:32AM ALL RIGHT.
9:06:33AM WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
9:06:34AM THE FIRST ONE IS MR. SUAREZ.
9:06:36AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
9:07:04AM WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE 20th ANNIVERSARY OF PEPIN
9:07:08AM ACADEMIES.
9:07:09AM ALL OF US HAVE BEEN TO THE PEPIN CENTER.
9:07:11AM ALL OF US KNOW THAT TOM PEPIN AND HIS COMPANY HAS BEEN A
9:07:14AM VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL EACH AND
9:07:18AM EVERY YEAR.
9:07:19AM SO IT IS MY PLEASURE TO GIVE THIS COMMENDATION FROM OUR CITY
9:07:23AM COUNCIL TO PEPIN ACADEMIES FOR THEIR 20th ANNIVERSARY.
9:07:28AM WE JOIN YOU IN CELEBRATING AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR
9:07:30AM DEDICATION TO IMPROVE THE ACADEMIC SUCCESS AND SOCIAL
9:07:33AM ACHIEVEMENTS OF STUDENTS WITH LEARNING AND LEARNING-RELATED
9:07:37AM DISABILITIES.
9:07:40AM BE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE A DIVERSIFIED
9:07:43AM CURRICULUM, A MULTI-ENVIRONMENT CENTER AND THE MANY
9:07:47AM EXCEPTIONAL TOOLS AVAILABLE TO ALL OF YOUR STUDENTS.
9:07:49AM MAY YOU HAVE THE GOOD FORTUNE OF CONTINUING TO GROW AND

9:07:52AM EXPAND THE SERVICES IN ALL OF YOUR CAMPUSES.
9:07:55AM AND WE ARE HONORED TODAY TO PRESENT YOU, PEPIN ACADEMY, FOR
9:07:59AM THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 20th ANNIVERSARY THAN THIS
9:08:02AM 4th DAY OF OCTOBER 2018.
9:08:04AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:08:05AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:08:05AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
9:08:18AM ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL, MYSELF, THE PRINCIPAL AT PASCO,
9:08:25AM NEW PORT RICHEY, TAMPA,
9:08:28AM WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENDATION.
9:08:30AM YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS HAS ALLOWED US TO HELP OVER 1100
9:08:33AM CHILDREN REACH POTENTIAL THAT MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NEVER
9:08:36AM THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
9:08:37AM TO PROVIDE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALIZE DREAMS THAT EVERY
9:08:41AM KID HAS, BUT THAT SIMPLY TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS DON'T AFFORD
9:08:45AM THEM.
9:08:45AM WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO IT BETTER BUT WE DO IT DIFFERENT.
9:08:49AM AND THAT DIFFERENT, I BELIEVE MASTERED THAT.
9:08:53AM BUT WE THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP
9:08:56AM THOSE CHILDREN AND SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY.
9:08:58AM THANK YOU.
9:08:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO JUST ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN
9:09:12AM SUAREZ SAID AND JUST COMMEND YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.
9:09:14AM I GUESS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW THAT MY OLDEST BROTHER IS
9:09:18AM DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO FROM

9:09:20AM A SCHOOL THAT DOESN'T FIT TO A SCHOOL THAT FITS.
9:09:24AM MY BROTHER USED TO GO 30 YEARS AGO, 25 YEARS AGO, TO GRECO
9:09:29AM MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE HE WAS BOTH SIGNIFICANTLY AND CAUSED MY
9:09:34AM FAMILY A LOT OF PAIN.
9:09:35AM IT REALLY DID.
9:09:36AM AFTERWARDS HE WENT TO CAMADITI SCHOOL WHERE IT WAS LITERALLY
9:09:42AM NIGHT AND DAY.
9:09:42AM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHANGES WE SAW IN MY BROTHER, IT
9:09:47AM REALLY MADE A CHANGE AND IT'S THE RIGHT FIT INFORM PEOPLE
9:09:51AM WITH EXCEPTIONALITIES.
9:09:52AM SO I JUST ABSOLUTE YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK AND GOD BLESS YOU.
9:09:55AM I MEAN IT.
9:09:56AM THANK YOU.
9:09:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2, COMMENDATION.
9:10:11AM MELISSA TAYLOR.
9:10:13AM MELISSA TAYLOR?
9:10:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL WAIT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:10:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:10:42AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:10:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING.
9:10:48AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:10:51AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR CITIZENS SPEAKING ABOUT
9:10:55AM MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
9:10:57AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR PUBLIC
9:11:00AM HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING TODAY'S

9:11:02AM MEETING.
9:11:03AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:11:06AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDAED MATTERS.
9:11:10AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:11:12AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS
9:11:16AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:11:18AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
9:11:22AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:11:24AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:11:27AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:11:30AM THANK YOU.
9:11:40AM HI.
9:11:40AM I AM WORLDWIDE GLOBAL SOVEREIGN OF DESPOT HDC LIVING ENTITY
9:11:47AM JOHNNY BERNARD BOOTH, FORMERLY KNOWN AS UNIFORM COMMERCIAL
9:11:52AM CODE 1.207.
9:11:56AM I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN
9:12:01AM CURRENT EVENTS.
9:12:01AM OKAY. ALL OF THE STATES AND IN THE UNITED STATES.
9:12:09AM YOU ARE UNDERGOING A REFORM REORGANIZATION BECAUSE YOU ARE
9:12:12AM BEING RELEASED FROM WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL A FOREIGN CONTROL.
9:12:23AM YOU THINK THAT TRUMP IS YOUR AMERICAN -- [OFF MICROPHONE]
9:12:47AM THAT'S UNCALLED FOR.
9:12:53AM I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR OWN OPINIONS AND SUCH BUT THAT'S
9:12:56AM UNCALLED FOR.
9:13:09AM SEE, WE AMERICAN NATIVES, SAME PEOPLE.

9:13:20AM DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'S GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT GOING
9:13:23AM OVER TO ASIA, CHILD, SLAVERY, CHILD, PROSTITUTION AND STUFF?
9:13:37AM WELL, RIGHT NOW ON THIS GLOBAL FRONT, AIN'T NONE OF THOSE
9:13:41AM OLD CANDIDATES GET AWAY FROM ANYTHING.
9:13:47AM IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WERE OFFGUARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
9:13:53AM IT'S A NATIONAL POSITION.
9:13:54AM MY POSITION IS A GLOBAL UNIVERSAL POSITION.
9:14:01AM DEMOCRATS.
9:14:10AM MAXINE.
9:14:10AM SHE SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THE RESPECT HER FELLOW CANDIDATES
9:14:14AM AND HER FELLOW WORKERS.
9:14:15AM SO I SAID, SHE ALREADY KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
9:14:22AM SO AMERICA, VOTE FOR YOUR INDEPENDENCE.
9:14:26AM VOTE FOR YOUR FREEDOM.
9:14:28AM AND NOT BACK IN THE OLD HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON LOCKDOWN.
9:14:35AM THANK YOU.
9:14:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:14:59AM MY NAME?
9:15:01AM MY NAME IS CITIZEN OF TAMPA BAY ALL MY LIFE.
9:15:07AM FOR PURPOSES.
9:15:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, THE CLERK IS
9:15:11AM KEEPING A RECORD OF TODAY'S MEETING.
9:15:12AM WE JUST ASK YOU GIVE YOUR NAME.
9:15:16AM SO YOU CAN GOOGLE IT.
9:15:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK?

9:15:26AM >> YES, I DO.
9:15:27AM I WASN'T GIVEN DIRECTIONS.
9:15:29AM THANK YOU.
9:15:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: COOPERATE OR DON'T SPEAK.
9:15:31AM >> YES, SIR.
9:15:31AM MY NAME IS ROB.
9:15:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROB WHO?
9:15:34AM >> I'M NOT -- UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE
9:15:41AM MY NAME.
9:15:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:15:42AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
9:15:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:15:46AM >> NO.
9:15:55AM ARE YOU REMOVING ME FROM SPEAKING?
9:15:57AM THANKS FOR VIOLATING MY RIGHT.
9:15:59AM I'M TRYING TO SPEAK.
9:16:00AM MY NAME IS ROB.
9:16:02AM I COME HERE ALL THE TIME.
9:16:08AM KICKING ME OUT.
9:16:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:16:12AM I RESIDE AT 2108 NORTH -- AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:16:16AM I WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S MANY MONTHS OF
9:16:23AM REVIEW.
9:16:24AM I'M LOOKING AT THE PACE PROGRAM.
9:16:25AM I KNOW THEY WILL BE REPORTING TO THE CITY TODAY.

9:16:27AM IT'S OUR DUTY IN THE INDUSTRY TO GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S
9:16:30AM GOING ON.
9:16:31AM I THIS I THE UPDATE WOULD BE WE HAVE AN UPDATED LIST OF
9:16:35AM WEBSITE INQUIRIES TO ONE OF THE COMPANIES, ALMOST 100 OF THE
9:16:39AM LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
9:16:42AM I'LL LEAVE THIS FOR THE RECORD AND COPIES.
9:16:44AM AND YOU ALSO RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM ME WITH OTHER UPDATES,
9:16:48AM BACKGROUND RESEARCH.
9:16:49AM ALSO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, A LOCAL TAMPA-BASED EQUITY
9:16:53AM INVESTOR OWNS SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA, LOOKING
9:16:56AM TO ADD THIS AS AN OPTION AS WELL.
9:16:58AM I HAVE A LETTER FROM THEM.
9:16:59AM YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THAT.
9:17:01AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT COME UP LATER.
9:17:03AM WE WILL BE HERE THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.
9:17:05AM AND I'LL LEAVE THESE FOR THE RECORD.
9:17:09AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:17:10AM >> METEZMAT, TONY DANIEL, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:17:19AM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SPEAK OF.
9:17:23AM WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
9:17:25AM A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED FOR POOR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
9:17:32AM A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED FOR POOR AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
9:17:37AM BE ONE MAN SPOKE OF HIS BROTHER BEING INCAPACITATED IN ONE
9:17:42AM WAY OR ANOTHER.
9:17:43AM ONE PERSON IS JEWISH.

9:17:45AM ONE PERSON IS SPANISH.
9:17:46AM ONE PERSON IS AFRICAN.
9:17:50AM ONE PERSON IS GAY.
9:17:50AM MAYBE TWO PEOPLE MIGHT BE GAY.
9:17:53AM BUT YOU ALL HAVE A HATRED FOR PEOPLE.
9:17:58AM A MAN CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE YOU SAY HE WON'T FOLLOW THE RULES
9:18:04AM AND THE PROPER DECORUM OF GIVING HIS NAME.
9:18:07AM SOME PRIVATE CITIZEN TAKE THEIR TIME OUT TO COME AND SPEAK
9:18:11AM TO THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT, AND YOU SAY, NARCS YOU CAN'T
9:18:15AM SPEAK, WE NEED YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:18:18AM PERSON CAN SAY ANYTHING.
9:18:19AM YOU ALL LIKE TO PLAY GAMES.
9:18:20AM YOU ALL NEED TO GROW UP.
9:18:21AM YOU ALL NEED TO GROW UP.
9:18:23AM THERE'S A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED.
9:18:25AM AND A CERTAIN KIND OF POWER, YOU ALL LIKE TO SHOW THAT YOU
9:18:30AM HAVE, IN HOW YOU TREAT PAR WORKING CLASS CITIZENS.
9:18:35AM BECAUSE IF THE GONZMARTS, IF THE GLAZERS WERE HERE, IF THE
9:18:43AM GUY WHO IS RUNNING HARBOR ISLAND, IF VINICK WERE HERE, YOU
9:18:47AM ALL WOULDN'T EVEN NEED TO KNOW THEIR NAME.
9:18:50AM YOU ALL WOULD BE SCARED OF THEM.
9:18:52AM A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED AND A CERTAIN KIND OF COWARDNESS
9:18:55AM YOU ALL HAVE.
9:18:57AM COWARDS.
9:18:58AM THE MAN RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LEADERSHIP OF

9:19:01AM THE CITY, CALLED AFRICAN WOMEN BITCHES, CALLED FOR THE
9:19:05AM LYNCHING OF AN AFRICAN MAN IN 2017, AND NOBODY UP THERE
9:19:11AM OPENED THEIR MOUTH TO SAY A SINGLE WORD.
9:19:13AM IT'S A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED.
9:19:15AM AND YOU ALL GLORIFY NONSENSE.
9:19:19AM PEPIN ACADEMY.
9:19:21AM IF I'M NOT WRONG IS IT THE SAME NAME THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH
9:19:24AM ALL THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES THAT'S DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT
9:19:28AM THE COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE?
9:19:29AM IS THAT THE SAME NAME AS THEIR ASSOCIATION?
9:19:32AM YOU ALL GLORIFY NONSENSE.
9:19:35AM YOU GLORIFY NONSENSE AND HATRED.
9:19:40AM AND THAT'S 100% WRONG.
9:19:43AM IT'S IMMORAL.
9:19:44AM IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
9:19:47AM THE MAN SAYS CONSTITUTIONAL TO FORCE INFORMATION OUT OF
9:19:52AM SOMEONE.
9:19:53AM A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED.
9:19:55AM THAT HATRED HAVE TO STOP.
9:19:58AM THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND SAY, OH, WE WANT YOUR VOTE.
9:20:00AM YOU ALL TREAT POOR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE LAKE DIRT.
9:20:03AM AND WE ARE ASKING EVERYONE TO CALL 274-1920 TO ANDREW WARREN
9:20:10AM AND THESE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:20:11AM YOU CAN CALL TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE CHARGES AGAINST TONY
9:20:14AM DANIEL.

9:20:15AM FAKE CHARGES.
9:20:15AM >> MY NAME IS DAVID LEE GARDEN, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, I'M THIRD
9:20:25AM GENERATION TAMPAN AND I AM NOT SO IMPORTANT THAT I DON'T
9:20:30AM HAVE TO GIVE MY NAME.
9:20:32AM IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.
9:20:34AM ANYWAY, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A LOGISTICAL ISSUE I HAVE
9:20:43AM CONCERNING MY WATER BILL.
9:20:44AM AND I TALKED TO GUIDO ABOUT IT BEFORE.
9:20:48AM IT HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED YET.
9:20:51AM I HAVE BEEN IN REALLY TIGHT FINANCIAL TAMES REGARDING WORK,
9:20:56AM AND WHEN I DON'T MAKE MONEY, I QUIT SPENDING MONEY.
9:20:59AM I DON'T HAVE TV.
9:21:00AM I DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE.
9:21:02AM IF I DON'T HAVE MONEY, I DON'T HAVE MONEY TO SPEND.
9:21:06AM AND I HAVE MANAGED SO FAR EXCEPT FOR THE WATER BILL.
9:21:11AM NOW, I DON'T USE A LOT OF WATER.
9:21:13AM AND I BROUGHT IN MY BILL ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
9:21:18AM I MEAN LIKE ZERO, THOUSAND CUBIC FEET PER MONTH, BECAUSE
9:21:25AM LIKE I DON'T HAVE A REGULAR INCOME RIGHT NOW.
9:21:28AM YET, OUR WATER BILL IS STILL CONSISTENTLY ABOUT $40 A MONTH.
9:21:32AM SO THAT'S THE ONE PART OF MY LIFE THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO
9:21:36AM CONTROL MY EXPENSES.
9:21:39AM YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT ISSUE TO YOUR ATTENTION.
9:21:46AM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESOLVE IT PER SE IN TERMS OF POLICY.
9:21:53AM BUT IT IS A PROBLEM FOR FOLKS LIKE MYSELF WHO ARE

9:21:57AM TEMPORARILY HURTING FINANCIALLY.
9:22:03AM I'M A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM GETTING BACK TO ZERO QUITE
9:22:05AM FRANKLY ON JUST PRACTICAL THINGS.
9:22:09AM SO I WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
9:22:11AM ALSO, I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE SERENDIPITY OF PEPIN
9:22:16AM ACADEMY BEING RECOGNIZED, I AM AN ALUMNUS OF MORNINGSTAR.
9:22:20AM THEY HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY.
9:22:24AM PEPIN ACADEMY DOES GREAT WORK.
9:22:26AM I REMEMBER WHEN THEY STARTED, THEY STARTED WITH NOTHING.
9:22:28AM THEY JUST KNEW THEY HAD TO GET IT DONE.
9:22:30AM AND HERE THEY ARE TODAY, AND THAT'S JUST THAN GOING OUT AND
9:22:36AM DOING IT AND FIGURING IT OUT AS THEY GO.
9:22:39AM SO I JUST WANT TO PASS THAT ALONG THAT I'M REALLY GLAD TO
9:22:44AM SEE YOU GUYS RECOGNIZING THE WORK THAT PEPIN ACADEMY DOES.
9:22:48AM I SINCE GRADUATED COLLEGE, NOT UNIVERSITY.
9:22:55AM SO I WOULD SAY THE WORK THESE GUYS DID WITH ME EARLY IN
9:22:58AM LIFE, IT MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN MY LIFE
9:23:04AM THANK YOU.
9:23:06AM >>CHAIRMAN: HAVE YOU MET WITH ANYONE IN THE WATER
9:23:07AM DEPARTMENT?
9:23:10AM >> I TALKED TO -- I TALKED TO SOMEBODY REGARDING THE CUT-OFF
9:23:24AM AND I GOT ANOTHER CUT-OFF NOTICE; BUT WHAT WE TEND TO
9:23:32AM CONCLUDE AT THAT POINT WAS THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD
9:23:35AM DO POLICYWISE.
9:23:37AM THEY ARE RESTRICTED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO.

9:23:39AM SO WHILE MY WATER HASN'T BEEN CUT OFF, AND IT'S WAY OVERDUE,
9:23:45AM THEY CAN'T WORK WITH THE BILL WHATSOEVER.
9:23:48AM AND WHAT'S KILLING ME ARE THE PAST CHARGES.
9:23:53AM IT'S NOT THE -- IT'S LIKE ONE DOLLAR A MONTH.
9:23:57AM I DON'T USE MUCH WATER ANYWAY.
9:23:59AM BUT I AM GETTING WHOLE PRICE ON TRASH AND I DON'T THROW
9:24:04AM ANYTHING AWAY CAUSE I CAN'T EVEN BUY STUFF.
9:24:06AM SO THAT'S THE THING.
9:24:07AM MY ELECTRIC BILL IS LOW.
9:24:10AM I HAVE A PHONE BILL.
9:24:12AM AND I HAVE AN INTERNET BILL BECAUSE I USE THE INTERNET FOR
9:24:15AM WORK OR FIND WORK.
9:24:17AM BUT OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPENSES.
9:24:19AM BUT I'M GETTING ABOUT $40, ABOUT $40 A MONTH ON MY WATER
9:24:27AM BILL THAT IN THE WHOLE SCHEME OF THINGS IS MONUMENTAL.
9:24:40AM I'M SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY GUY IN THIS SITUATION AND I DON'T
9:24:43AM KNOW POLICYWISE SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU ALL CAN DO, BUT IT IS
9:24:47AM A PROBLEM FOR FOLKS LIKE MACE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, NO TOUGH
9:24:52AM SITUATION.
9:24:52AM AND --
9:24:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME SUGGEST YOU CONTACT MY OFFICE AND
9:25:00AM SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
9:25:01AM >> OKAY.
9:25:12AM THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
9:25:13AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:25:14AM YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:25:15AM >> I'M LAURA ANKENBRUCK, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 1304 WEST
9:25:41AM PLYMOUTH STREET.
9:25:42AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 56 THAT'S ON YOUR
9:25:45AM AGENDA.
9:25:46AM WE HAVE OWNED THAT PROPERTY FOR 14 YEARS.
9:25:50AM AND WE ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THIS ACTION THAT INVOLVED
9:25:54AM AN ATTEMPT TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOT NEXT DOOR BUT
9:25:59AM ONE DOOR OVER FROM THAT.
9:26:01AM AND THERE IS AN ATTEMPT TO SPLIT THAT PROPERTY INTO THREE
9:26:05AM LOTS.
9:26:16AM (NO ENCODER).
9:26:20AM YOU REQUESTED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MODIFY THE HEARING
9:26:51AM OFFICER'S RECOMMENDED ORDER.
9:26:54AM AND TODAY YOU HAVE WHAT IS THE PROPOSED FINAL ORDER GRANTING
9:26:58AM THE LOT SPLIT IN FRONT OF YOU.
9:27:00AM WE CONTINUE TO STRONGLY OBJECT TO AN ORDER SPLITTING THAT
9:27:07AM LOT INTO THREE LOTS.
9:27:08AM WE THINK THIS WILL AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LONG-TERM WITH
9:27:10AM OTHER LOT SPLITS CREATING SMALLER LOTS.
9:27:14AM I DID THIS MORNING FILE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF YOUR
9:27:18AM DECISION TO OPEN IT UP FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
9:27:22AM AND I AM ASKING YOU TO IN ANOTHER DAY SET THAT FOR
9:27:26AM RECONSIDERATION, AND ALSO I DID NOTIFY THE CITY WHEN THIS
9:27:29AM WAS SET THAT I WAS NOT AVAILABLE TODAY BETWEEN 10:30 AND

9:27:35AM NOON SO I AM ASKING THERE BE NO PROCEEDINGS BECAUSE I HAVE
9:27:39AM ANOTHER HEARING AT THAT TIME.
9:27:40AM WE ASK YOU TO SET IT FOR ANOTHER TIME WHEN YOU CAN
9:27:43AM RECONSIDER THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
9:27:45AM THANK YOU.
9:27:45AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, BEFORE WE GO ON.
9:27:49AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAD
9:27:54AM ALREADY FILED A FORM CONCERNING IT.
9:27:58AM IF THERE IS ANY VOTE ON THIS TO RECONSIDER IT, I WILL BE
9:28:01AM ABSTAINING FOR THE RECORD.
9:28:02AM >> REBECCA KERT: JUST AS A MATTER OF PRACTICE, THIS IS AN
9:28:12AM ITEM THAT IS ON YOUR AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE
9:28:15AM FINAL ORDER.
9:28:15AM THIS IS PART OF AN ONGOING JUDICIAL PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC
9:28:21AM PARTICIPATION WAS NOTICED FOR THE DE NOVO HEARING AND FOR
9:28:25AM THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL ORDER.
9:28:29AM WE ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT PROCESS AT THIS POINT.
9:28:31AM WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL ORDER.
9:28:33AM AND WHEN WE GET TO ITEM 56, IT IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY
9:28:38AM FURTHER COMMENT.
9:28:39AM THAT HAS BEEN FORECLOSED.
9:28:41AM THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT AT
9:28:43AM YOUR LAST HEARING YOU DIRECTED THE MODIFICATION TO EITHER
9:28:46AM ADOPT THE HEARING OR TO LET ME KNOW THAT I INCORRECTLY
9:28:50AM MODIFIED IT AND TO DIRECT ME FOR SOME CONSIDERATION OF HOW

9:28:57AM TO DO THAT.
9:28:58AM BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING BEFORE YOU.
9:28:59AM THE PROJECT IS CLOSED TO ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT AT THIS
9:29:02AM POINT.
9:29:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:29:05AM >> MY NAME IS LESLEE BRACKIN.
9:29:15AM BACK TO ITEM 56, I AM DIRECTLY ABUTTING THE PROPERTY THAT'S
9:29:19AM IN QUESTION.
9:29:20AM I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
9:29:22AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:29:23AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PETITIONERS FOR THIS VARIANCE
9:29:27AM CODE.
9:29:28AM I ACTUALLY ENJOY THEIR HOME.
9:29:30AM I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOW MUCH SPLITTING IS BEING DONE.
9:29:33AM I REALIZE THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH DUE PROCESS AND I'M
9:29:36AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESPONSE OF COUNCIL TO THAT DUE PROCESS,
9:29:39AM BECAUSE FIRST, ACCORDING TO THE VARIANCE OF THE ZONING
9:29:42AM VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS, THERE WERE MULTIPLE OBJECTIONS TO
9:29:45AM THIS, MULTIPLE SPLITTING OF THE LOTS, AND THEY WERE
9:29:49AM RECORDED.
9:29:49AM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ZONING OFFICER DID NOT FILE
9:29:53AM THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO HER BECAUSE IT'S NOT
9:29:58AM STATED UNDER OATH THAT SHE DID NOT VISIT THE PROPERTY IN
9:30:01AM QUESTION.
9:30:02AM I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD A DE NOVO HEARING WHERE

9:30:08AM MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME TO SPEAK IN
9:30:10AM PERSON.
9:30:10AM IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO YOU THAT THIS VARIANCE BE DENIED.
9:30:14AM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT DID NOT -- IT ONLY MET ONE OUT OF
9:30:18AM THREE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
9:30:20AM AND IN ORDER TO GIVE A LITTLE-LEVITY TO THE SITUATION, TWO
9:30:27AM OUT OF THREE ISN'T ONE, NOT THREE.
9:30:30AM ALSO, DE NOVO, I UNDERSTAND, DID NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC
9:30:35AM CONVERSATION.
9:30:35AM I UNDERSTAND AN ORDER FROM AN OFFICER OF THE CITY, BY THE
9:30:41AM WAY, ON YOUR BEHALF THAT YOU DECLINED TO TAKE THAT
9:30:46AM RECOMMENDATION.
9:30:48AM AND I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED, QUITE FRANKLY, AT THE PROCESS
9:30:51AM IN THAT PORTION OF IT.
9:30:53AM I WILL HONEST ALSO THE REQUEST TO NOT SPEAK TO ANYONE
9:30:56AM INDIVIDUALLY BUT TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
9:30:58AM HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AT THIS TIME IN TAMPA IS A VERY
9:31:03AM IMPORTANT POINT WE ARE AT, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
9:31:08AM RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT IS PLAGUED WITH STORMWATER RUNOFF.
9:31:10AM IT'S NOT COMMENSURATE WITH THE CONCERNS FOR STORMWATER
9:31:14AM AMELIORATION.
9:31:15AM ALSO, SO CLOSELY RELATED TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
9:31:20AM THIS IS OF GRAVE CONCERN IN FUTURE ASPECTS OF WHATEVER
9:31:24AM INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:31:27AM IT IS ALSO NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LOTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

9:31:32AM IT IS CHANGING THE STRUCTURE AND BOUNDARIES OF OUR
9:31:36AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:31:36AM IT IS POTENTIALLY CAUSING DAMAGE TO INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN THE
9:31:39AM LINE.
9:31:40AM AND I DON'T THINK -- I'M SURE THAT YOU GENTLEMEN AND LADY
9:31:44AM WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT.
9:31:47AM THANK YOU.
9:31:48AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:31:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:31:54AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL MARTINEZ; I RESIDE AT 919 WEST PLATT
9:32:00AM STREET, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 56 ON THE AGENDA,
9:32:03AM 1844.
9:32:04AM IN CASE YOU DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH 117 PAGE
9:32:07AM EXCEPTION THAT WAS FILED, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF
9:32:10AM THE DETAILS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
9:32:17AM RS-60 FEET, TOTAL LAND UNITS 8,400, QUESTION 2 AND 3, RS-60,
9:32:24AM TOTAL LAND UNITS, 6,650.
9:32:27AM THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RS-60 IS 60-FOOT FRONTAGE, 6,000 TOTAL
9:32:32AM LAND USE.
9:32:32AM ALL THREE PARCELS MEET AND EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS: ALL
9:32:36AM THREE PARCELS ARE RECTANGLES AND ORIENTED TO THE
9:32:40AM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
9:32:41AM PER CITY OF TAMPA 2711, RECONFIGURATION MUST BE PATENTLY
9:32:45AM INCONSISTENT FOR RECONFIGURATION.
9:32:50AM AS YOU CAN SEE THE LOTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO PARCELS 2 AND 3.

9:32:58AM PARCELS THAT ARE NORTH AND SOUTH.
9:33:02AM AND ALSO PARCELS THAT ARE EAST AND WEST IN THE SAME LAND
9:33:08AM UNITS AS PARCEL 1.
9:33:11AM THE HEARING OFFICER STATES THESE LOTS MEET THE TECHNICAL
9:33:16AM REQUIREMENTS SET FOR THE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEN GOES ON
9:33:20AM TO INTERPRET THE CODE AND MISSTATES EVIDENCE AND TO HOLD THE
9:33:25AM PROPERTY OWNER AT A HIGHER STANDARD WHICH IS UNJUST.
9:33:28AM THIS MENTALITY FROM THE GROUP OF NEIGHBORS HAS BEEN
9:33:32AM DEVASTATING TO A SMALL BUSINESS LIKE ME.
9:33:34AM AND IT WAS EVEN DISCUSS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
9:33:38AM TO CONFRONT US WITH THIS ISSUE.
9:33:40AM WITHIN THE LAST FEW DEVELOPMENT TOOK ON TWO LOTS WITHIN THE
9:33:43AM SAME DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, REZONED IT AND SPLIT THE LOTS INTO
9:33:47AM THREE AND NOTHING WAS SAID.
9:33:49AM THESE LOTS ARE THE RIGHT SIZE.
9:33:51AM THESE LOTS MEET THE CODE.
9:33:52AM WE ASK YOU CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE TO ACCEPT THE NEW
9:33:55AM RECOMMENDED ORDER AND TO REQUEST THE ORIGINAL REQUEST.
9:33:59AM THANK YOU.
9:33:59AM >> MY NAME IS ALYSSA MARTINEZ.
9:34:14AM I TOO RESIDE AT 919 WEST PLATT STREET.
9:34:17AM I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 56 ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING AS
9:34:20AM WELL.
9:34:21AM I WAS AN AUTHORIZED AGENT ON THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
9:34:24AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THIS MORNING THAT THE ORIGINAL

9:34:28AM APPLICATION WAS APPROVED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR GLORIA
9:34:31AM MOREDA.
9:34:34AM LOTS MET AND EXCEEDED THE CODE AND THEREFORE APPROVED IT.
9:34:37AM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 2040 TELLS US THAT WE ARE
9:34:41AM GOING TO HAVE A POPULATION INCREASE OF ABOUT 600 THAT YOU
9:34:44AM PEOPLE.
9:34:45AM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE?
9:34:46AM THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT PLAN, AS WE PLAN FOR
9:34:50AM THAT.
9:34:50AM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US AS A SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS.
9:34:54AM WE BUILD ONLY A FEW HOUSE AS YEAR.
9:34:56AM WE TAKE TIME.
9:34:57AM WE PUT QUALITY INTO OUR WORK AND WE STAND BEHIND IT.
9:35:00AM WE ALSO CHOOSE TO BUILD WHERE WE LIVE, SO WE TOO LIVE IN
9:35:04AM RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS AND WE CARE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
9:35:06AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:35:08AM OUR PROJECT EXCEEDS THE CITY CODE.
9:35:10AM WE NEED EVERY SINGLE STORMWATER AND WE RESPECT TREES IN THE
9:35:14AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:35:15AM SO I ASK YOU THAT YOU APPROVE AND ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED
9:35:18AM ORDER, THE NEW ORDER THAT'S PREPARED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY
9:35:21AM THAT YOU REQUESTED LAST TIME THIS MATTER WAS IN FRONT OF
9:35:24AM YOU.
9:35:24AM THANK YOU.
9:35:25AM >> MY NAME IS ELSIE WALKER, 3310 PERRY AVENUE.

9:35:37AM I TOO WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 56.
9:35:40AM IT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY HOT BUTTON WITH EVERYBODY IN THE
9:35:43AM NEIGHBORHOOD SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING US.
9:35:46AM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER RECONSIDERATION FOR
9:35:50AM THIS ITEM.
9:35:53AM PLEASE ASK THAT YOU DO REVIEW IT.
9:35:56AM WE DO WANT TO SAY THAT, I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU -- I DON'T
9:36:01AM KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.
9:36:03AM I'M SORRY, I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS.
9:36:07AM IF YOU WOULD NOTICE THAT THE LOTS WITHIN 1320 FEET, THIS IS
9:36:13AM CITY CODE SECTION 2711.
9:36:17AM THE LOT THAT YOU WERE JUST SHOWN WERE BIGGER THAN 1320 FEET.
9:36:21AM SO WE ARE ASKING THAT WITHIN 1320 FEET OF THIS PARTICULAR
9:36:26AM PROPERTY THAT YOU FOLLOW SECTION 2711 OF THE CITY CODE.
9:36:30AM SO WE WOULD PLEASE LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PULL THIS ITEM, GIVE
9:36:34AM IT SOME FURTHER REVIEW.
9:36:35AM THERE WAS A REASON THAT THE SPECIAL HEARING OFFICER CHANGED
9:36:38AM THIS ORDER.
9:36:41AM GLORIA DID SAY SHE WOULD NOT GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY TO VIEW
9:36:44AM IT AND HE DID.
9:36:45AM SO WE ARE ASKING AT THIS TIME PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER
9:36:47AM DECISION.
9:36:48AM JUST PULL IT.
9:36:49AM GIVE IT FURTHER REVIEW.
9:36:52AM THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS HERE THAT WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL

9:36:54AM LOOK AT, AND YOU APPLY EVENLY SECTION 2711 TO ALL OF US IN
9:36:59AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR SOME OF US IN
9:37:03AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:37:05AM THANK YOU.
9:37:05AM >> CONNIE BURTON.
9:37:18AM IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVE OF THEIR
9:37:21AM TIME TO COME AND SPEAK TO THIS LEADERSHIP, IT IS THE FEELING
9:37:26AM THAT WE HOPE THAT WE ARE BEING HEARD.
9:37:28AM AND SO THE CONSTANT CRY INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY IN WHICH I
9:37:34AM LIVE IS THAT NOW WE HAVE AN INVASION OF DEVELOPERS THAT ARE
9:37:41AM COMING INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA BY THE NAME OF URBAN 360.
9:37:49AM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN THEY CALL THEMSELVES DOMAIN HOMES,
9:37:52AM BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO BUILD BIG, WONDERFUL, ROOMY
9:37:56AM APARTMENTS, ROOMING HOMES WITH SPLENDID PORCHES.
9:38:01AM WHEN THEY COME TO EAST TAMPA, AND YOU TAKE A RIDE TODAY AND
9:38:05AM GO DOWN 22ND, AND YOU WOULD SEE THREE OR FOUR HOUSES ON A
9:38:13AM LOT.
9:38:14AM AND IF IT'S YOUR BEDROOM, YOU CAN --
9:38:23AM (NO ENCODER).
9:38:27AM ... TO THE WISHES AND DESIRES OF THE COMMUNITY AND GET
9:38:53AM THEIR FEEL.
9:38:54AM A PETITION WAS MADE THAT THEY DO NOT BUILD ON COMMERCIAL
9:38:57AM LAND THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA HAD ALREADY PURCHASED.
9:39:03AM WE CAME DOWN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:39:06AM WE ASKED THEM IN OUR MEETING NOT TO DO IT ON A TUESDAY AND A

9:39:11AM FRIDAY.
9:39:13AM WHEN WE GET BACK DOWN HERE ON THE 25th THEY HAVE THREE
9:39:17AM HOUSES.
9:39:18AM THEY ARE NOT LISTENING.
9:39:21AM IT IS WITH ALL DUE DISRESPECT THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD
9:39:23AM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY FEEL THAT THIS BODY DON'T HAVE ANY
9:39:27AM POWER OVER THEM.
9:39:30AM AND SO OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING INVADED WITH ONE GROUP OF
9:39:35AM PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A TON OF MONEY, A WONDERFUL DEAL
9:39:42AM FOR THEM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
9:39:45AM THE COMMUNITY WANT TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THERE, WE WANT TO
9:39:49AM HAVE SOME REAL BENEFIT, WE WANT TO SEE REAL TRANSFORMATION
9:39:53AM OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO STOP THE HEAVY HANDED
9:39:57AM CRIMINALIZATION OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO USE BICYCLES AS THEIR
9:40:02AM REGULAR MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, BICYCLES, BECAUSE OF PATTERN
9:40:08AM AND PRACTICES OF CRIMINALIZATION.
9:40:10AM WE ARE ASKING THIS BODY TO MOVE SWIFTLY.
9:40:14AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEND A LETTER TO DOMAIN HOME TO ASK
9:40:17AM THEM TO HELP BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
9:40:20AM THANK YOU.
9:40:20AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:40:23AM >> MIKE PRESSMAN, PALM HARBOR, FLORIDA.
9:40:29AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
9:40:32AM YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.
9:40:34AM HOWEVER, YOU RECEIVED A REQUEST THAT IS DIFFERENT IN REGARD

9:40:38AM TO ITEM NUMBER 49.
9:40:39AM YOU RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR SOME TYPE OF AMENDMENT TO, IN MY
9:40:45AM OPINION, EXCISE PART OF THAT PROPOSED ORDINANCE WHICH WAS
9:40:51AM UNANIMOUSLY DENIED.
9:40:54AM I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE SECOND HEARING THAT YOU WILL HAVE
9:40:56AM LATER, BUT IN REGARD TO THIS NEW REQUEST THAT YOU RECEIVED
9:40:59AM FOR AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE
9:41:03AM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
9:41:04AM WE ARE AGAINST THAT.
9:41:06AM YOU HAVE HEARD THE PUBLIC IS AGAINST THAT.
9:41:09AM YOU HAD A PARADE OF BUSINESS LEADERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS,
9:41:13AM BUSINESS PEOPLE, AND CITIZENS AT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING WHEN
9:41:17AM THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT UP.
9:41:18AM SO I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK -- DID WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU AND
9:41:21AM MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE, IN
9:41:25AM OUR OPINION, WOULD BE AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF HOW THIS COUNCIL
9:41:28AM VOTED AND THE CITIZENRY AND BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT CAME
9:41:32AM BEFORE YOU.
9:41:35AM NOT SUPPORTED, DID NOT WANT TO SEE IT DONE.
9:41:37AM WE BELIEVE IT'S OUR OPINION IT IS THE END RUN FROM WHAT YOUR
9:41:40AM DIRECTION HAS CLEARLY DONE.
9:41:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:45AM >> MY NAME IS JOHN DEYOUNG AND I'M THE OWNER OF AIR MASTERS
9:41:57AM OF TAMPA BAY AIR CONDITIONING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON
9:41:59AM BEHALF OF THE PACE PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING FOR THE

9:42:01AM CITY.
9:42:02AM AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE LOOK AT HOW WE ARE
9:42:07AM LOOKING AT IT.
9:42:09AM WE DEAL WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:42:11AM WE DEAL WITH PASCO COUNTY.
9:42:13AM AND GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THEIR AIR
9:42:17AM CONDITIONING, HEATING, AND I KNOW THE PACE PROGRAM GOES INTO
9:42:21AM THOSE THINGS AND OTHER UPGRADES THAT I CAN'T REALLY TALK
9:42:24AM ABOUT.
9:42:25AM BUT ON THE AIR CONDITIONING, WE FIND THAT PEOPLE IN NEED ARE
9:42:33AM KIND OF HOUSE POOR AND THEY NEED AIR CONDITIONING, AIR
9:42:36AM CONDITIONING IS ON THEIR LAST LEG, AND THEY CAN'T GET
9:42:39AM FINANCING FOR IT, THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM A
9:42:47AM NEW AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AT A REASONABLE INTEREST RATE,
9:42:54AM WHEREAS SOMETIMES THEY ARE SO DESPERATE THEY JUST ASK US TO
9:42:58AM FIND THEM ANY KIND OF FINANCING, AND USUALLY WE CAN.
9:43:06AM NOT THAT WE LIKE TO, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S RUNNING
9:43:09AM THEM 22, 30% INTEREST RATE.
9:43:14AM AND WHERE THE PACE PROGRAM HAS A NICE MEDIUM INTEREST RATE,
9:43:18AM I HE WOULD SAY RIGHT A ROWED ROUND 8%.
9:43:21AM THEY DO IT LONG-TERM.
9:43:23AM AND THEY SAVE MONEY IN THE MEANTIME WITH THE AIR
9:43:27AM CONDITIONING.
9:43:29AM SOMETIMES IT'S OLD.
9:43:30AM AND THEY CAN MAKE THE PAYMENTS WITH WHAT THEY ARE SAVING ON

9:43:34AM THEIR AC.
9:43:35AM SO JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
9:43:40AM BUT IT'S A NICE PROGRAM.
9:43:42AM AND OUR BUSINESS HAPPENS TO BE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, RIGHT
9:43:46AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:43:48AM WE WOULD LIKE THAT PROGRAM HERE, DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT
9:43:57AM ISN'T.
9:43:58AM ANYHOW, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
9:43:59AM >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.
9:44:11AM MY NAME IS --
9:44:13AM I LIVE AT 1211 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
9:44:15AM I WANT TO TOUCH PACE ABOUT THE -- BASE ABOUT THE PACE
9:44:18AM PROGRAM.
9:44:19AM I WORK WITH SEVERAL IN MANY COUNTIES BUT I KIND OF WANTED TO
9:44:22AM GIVE YOU OR ASK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET YOUR
9:44:27AM RESIDENTS PARTICIPATES IN A PROGRAM THAT'S VOLUNTARY.
9:44:30AM IT'S ALREADY IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:44:32AM PASCO COUNTY, AND A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES.
9:44:35AM I KIND OF WANT TO [RUSTLING PAPERS] THE INQUIRIES WE HAVE
9:44:39AM HAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:44:42AM I AM IN NEED OF IMMEDIATE NEED OF ASSISTANCE TO MY HOME
9:44:47AM AFTER HURRICANE IRMA.
9:44:49AM THE NEXT ONE IS DISABLED VETERAN, AND MY WIFE IS A SCHOOL
9:44:53AM TEACHER, LOW INCOME.
9:44:56AM ROOF IS PARAMOUNT.

9:44:58AM I AM ASTHMATIC AND I NEED A NEW SYSTEM.
9:45:04AM [RUSTLING PAPERS] PLEASE GIVE PACE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:45:14AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:45:14AM WE ARE WAY BEHIND.
9:45:16AM THE LAST ONE.
9:45:17AM I'M A VETERAN AND A SENIOR CITIZEN.
9:45:18AM MY 15-YEAR-OLD AIR CONDITIONING HAS BROKEN DOWN.
9:45:22AM I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY FOUR DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS THAT IT WOULD
9:45:26AM COST ME AT LEAST $5 THAT YOU TO REPLACE.
9:45:28AM GIVEN THE FACT THAT MY CREDIT IS MY PAYMENT FOR POTENTIAL
9:45:33AM IF, FOR THE SAME REASON I DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO
9:45:36AM PAY FOR A NEW MACHINE.
9:45:39AM I THEREFORE DESPERATELY NEED YOUR HELP.
9:45:41AM SO WE GET THESE ON A DAILY BASIS.
9:45:43AM I GET THESE CALLS FROM MY CONTRACTORS AND PROPERTY OWNERS
9:45:46AM ASKING ME WHY IS IT NOT AVAILABLE?
9:45:48AM UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO TELL THEM CITY OF TAMPA IS JUST NOT
9:45:52AM AVAILABLE AT THE MOMENT.
9:45:53AM ONCE AGAIN I APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD ALLOW THE CITIZENS OF
9:45:57AM TAMPA TO PARTICIPATE IN A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM ON THEIR BEHALF.
9:46:04AM THANK YOU.
9:46:04AM >> HEALEY, REPRESENTING WS DEVELOPMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 42.
9:46:18AM MRS. FEELEY'S DETERMINATION HAS BEEN A APPEALED BY THE
9:46:23AM PETITIONER AND TO BE SCHEDULED BY THIS COUNCIL ON JANUARY
9:46:27AM 24.

9:46:28AM WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THAT BE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER
9:46:32AM 29th AT THE LATEST DECEMBER 4th, BUT WE WOULD PREFER
9:46:36AM THE 29th BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOUR ORDINANCE, REGARDLESS
9:46:43AM OF APPEAL OR ANYTHING, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON THAT
9:46:45AM PROPERTY.
9:46:46AM SO EVERYTHING IS THERE IN HYDE PARK, AND WE ARE REQUESTING
9:46:55AM THAT YOU WOULD PLEASE LET US HAVE THAT HEARING ON THE
9:46:57AM 29th.
9:46:58AM THAT WILL GIVE AMPLE TIME FOR NOTICE AND EVERYTHING TO BE
9:47:01AM HEARD, BUT WAITING TILL THE 24th WOULD PUT US AT ANOTHER
9:47:07AM FOUR MONTHS OF NO ACTIVITY ON THAT SITE.
9:47:10AM AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
9:47:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW, SO COUNCIL
9:47:19AM KNOWS, IF YOU HAVE A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF YOU, THE 29th
9:47:22AM IS A WORKSHOP SESSION.
9:47:25AM EVENING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.
9:47:26AM THERE IS A MEETING ON THE 15th OF NOVEMBER.
9:47:29AM THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS THE 6th OF DECEMBER.
9:47:35AM THERE ARE TWO REVIEW HEARINGS FOR DECISION OF THE ZONING
9:47:38AM ADMINISTRATOR SCHEDULED FOR THE 15th AND TWO ALSO ON THE
9:47:40AM 6th.
9:47:42AM SO IF YOU HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU WISH TO
9:47:46AM TAKE THIS UP.
9:47:47AM OTHERWISE, ITSELF IT'S SET FOR PRESENTLY JANUARY 24th AT
9:47:50AM 10:30 A.M. IF COUNCIL SHOULD PASS THIS RESOLUTION SETTING

9:47:54AM THE PUBLIC HEARING.
9:47:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
9:47:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: DO EITHER OF THOSE DATES WORK WITH THE
9:48:01AM 15th OR THE 6th?
9:48:03AM >> THE 6th BUT I DON'T WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE NOTICE
9:48:09AM TIMELY FOR THAT SO WE WOULD TAKE THE NEXT HEARING DATE.
9:48:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DECEMBER 6th?
9:48:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: CAN WE TAKE THAT UP ITEM 42 OR TAKE IT UP
9:48:19AM NOW?
9:48:32AM >> MY NAME IS ROBIN MOCH, 3310 NORTH PERRY AVENUE.
9:48:38AM AGAIN SPEAKING ABOUT ITEM 56, I'M REQUESTING THAT IT BE HELD
9:48:43AM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
9:48:45AM PREVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR ALL PEOPLE
9:48:54AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:48:54AM I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TODAY.
9:48:56AM BUT I WANT TO ADD A LITTLE MORE PERSPECTIVE ESPECIALLY SINCE
9:49:00AM THE PRIOR SPEAKERS, THAT TWO OUT OF THE THREE OF THOSE LOTS
9:49:08AM ARE ONLY 59 FEET DEEP.
9:49:10AM THEY ARE 60 FEET.
9:49:15AM THEY ARE THIRD THE SIZE OF THOSE ACROSS THE STREET.
9:49:17AM ONE OF THE BIG REASONS THAT WE ARE HERE AND I THINK THERE
9:49:20AM WOULD BE A LOT MORE HERE IF WE HAVE THE TIME OF THE
9:49:22AM NEIGHBORHOOD TO LINE UP LIKE WE DID THE VERY FIRST HEARING.
9:49:26AM THE LOT THAT WAS SPLIT AND PUT THREE HOMES ON SORT OF POPPED
9:49:30AM UP AND SURPRISED ALL OF US.

9:49:32AM IF ANYONE DRIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD YOU WILL SEE THEM JUMP
9:49:34AM OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LOOK RIGHT.
9:49:37AM NICELY BUILT HOMES.
9:49:39AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT.
9:49:40AM BUT THEY DON'T FIT.
9:49:41AM THERE'S PLENTY OF AREAS IN TAMPA TO DO THAT.
9:49:43AM LOTS OF THEM.
9:49:44AM THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY
9:49:47AM IN.
9:49:49AM WE HAVE BEEN THERE ALMOST FIVE YEARS.
9:49:50AM IT'S SO UNIQUE.
9:49:52AM WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE AN AREA THAT IS NOTHING LIKE IT.
9:49:56AM THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN TAMPA THAT ARE VERY
9:49:57AM UNIQUE. THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
9:49:59AM WE JUST DON'T WANT TO --
9:50:05AM IT WAS MENTIONED WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO LIVE?
9:50:07AM LOOK AT ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON.
9:50:09AM THERE ARE MANY EMPTY UNITS.
9:50:10AM HARBOR ISLAND.
9:50:11AM CHANNELSIDE.
9:50:12AM TAMPA.
9:50:12AM YOU CAN'T GET THE -- THE CRANES ARE CRAZY.
9:50:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LOTS OF PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.
9:50:19AM THERE'S ONE HOME ON THAT BEAUTIFUL MATURE TREED LOT RIGHT
9:50:23AM NOW.

9:50:23AM ONE.
9:50:24AM IT LOOKS GREAT.
9:50:25AM LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
9:50:26AM SO WE ARE JUST SAYING, PLEASE, TAKE A LOOK.
9:50:31AM THIS AREA IS NOT LIKE OTHER AREAS.
9:50:36AM THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ONE OR TWO BEAUTIFUL
9:50:38AM HOMES AT A HIGHER PRAISE AND RESPECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:50:43AM THANK YOU.
9:50:43AM >> MY NAME IS SHABEL.
9:50:55AM I AM HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT RECENT TALK, DISCUSSION, OVER
9:51:04AM THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN RIDING BIKES AND OHIO BLACK RESIDENTS
9:51:13AM MAY BE TARGETED.
9:51:14AM I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE REQUESTING FOR THE DATA
9:51:23AM SHOWING THE INFORMATION OF WHERE EXACTLY, AND I WANT TO
9:51:29AM STRONGLY RECOMMEND TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND ASKING FOR
9:51:34AM DATA SHOWING THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE
9:51:38AM BEING ARRESTED, AND THOSE WHO ARE BEING CONVICTED, BECAUSE
9:51:44AM IF BLACK AND BROWN RESIDENTS ARE BEING TARGETED, I HAVE A
9:51:47AM CONCERN OF WHAT ELSE THEY ARE BEING TARGETED FOR.
9:51:52AM SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT CONCERN AND STRONGLY
9:51:56AM REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
9:52:00AM THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME WE ASK FOR THIS.
9:52:08AM THANK YOU.
9:52:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:52:10AM ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT?

9:52:13AM >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE COMMENTS THAT
9:52:20AM CAME TODAY ON 3203 NORTH -- AVENUE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE
9:52:24AM PROCESS THAT YOU ESTABLISHED BY YOUR CODE AND TO TAKE THEM
9:52:27AM INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE VALIDITY.
9:52:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER REQUESTS BY THE
9:52:38AM PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION?
9:52:41AM WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:52:43AM PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:52:44AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:52:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 3 THROUGH 10.
9:52:49AM >> SECOND.
9:52:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:52:52AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:52:53AM OPPOSED?
9:52:55AM ALL RIGHT.
9:52:56AM PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:52:57AM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:52:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 15 AND ON
9:53:01AM NUMBER 13 THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
9:53:03AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:53:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:53:07AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
9:53:08AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:53:10AM OPPOSED?
9:53:11AM OKAY.

9:53:12AM GO TO PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
9:53:14AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 22.
9:53:17AM >> SECOND.
9:53:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. COHEN -- OR SECONDED BY
9:53:24AM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:53:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:53:26AM OPPOSED?
9:53:27AM FINANCE COMMITTEE.
9:53:28AM MR. COHEN.
9:53:28AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 26.
9:53:31AM >> SECOND.
9:53:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
9:53:34AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:53:36AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:53:38AM OPPOSED?
9:53:39AM ALL RIGHT.
9:53:40AM GO TO BUILDING AND ZONING.
9:53:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 27 THROUGH 38.
9:53:44AM >> SECOND.
9:53:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
9:53:49AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:53:50AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
9:53:52AM OPPOSED?
9:53:56AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:53:57AM MR. SUAREZ.

9:53:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE ITEMS 39 AND 40.
9:54:00AM >> SECOND.
9:54:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:54:04AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:54:06AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:54:07AM OPPOSED?
9:54:08AM OKAY.
9:54:10AM WE GO TO --
9:54:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 41 AND 42.
9:54:15AM SETTING THE COUNCIL DATE.
9:54:18AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL SECOND WITH THE PROVISO ON NUMBER 42
9:54:22AM IT'S GOING TO BE THE DECEMBER 6th.
9:54:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DECEMBER 6th.
9:54:34AM 10:30. MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY MR. COHEN. ALL IN
9:54:34AM FAVOR? OKAY.
9:54:41AM WE GO TO SECOND READING.
9:54:42AM PUBLIC HEARING.
9:54:45AM WE OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:54:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN ITEMS NUMBER 43 THROUGH 48.
9:54:55AM >> SECOND.
9:54:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:54:58AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:55:00AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
9:55:01AM OPPOSED?
9:55:02AM ALL RIGHT.

9:55:02AM ITEM NUMBER OF 43.
9:55:03AM >>LACHONE DOCK: PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
9:55:11AM COUNCIL, ITEMS 43 AND 44 ARE PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT
9:55:16AM AMENDMENTS AND THEY ARE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND
9:55:19AM READING.
9:55:19AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:55:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL THIS
9:55:23AM ALL RIGHT.
9:55:25AM IS PETITIONER HERE?
9:55:31AM ALL RIGHT.
9:55:31AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 43?
9:55:33AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:55:35AM >> SECOND.
9:55:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:55:37AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
9:55:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:55:39AM OPPOSED?
9:55:40AM MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 43?
9:55:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
9:55:45AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
9:55:48AM TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO WRITTEN DETERMINATIONS OF THE
9:55:53AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND ADDING A REQUEST FOR REASONABLE
9:55:55AM ACCOMMODATIONS MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
9:55:58AM ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING
9:56:01AM SECTION 27-53, WRITTEN DETERMINATIONS BY THE ZONING

9:56:05AM ADMINISTRATOR GENERALLY, TYPES, PROCESSES, LIMITATIONS,
9:56:10AM CREATING SECTION 27-62 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS, AMENDING
9:56:13AM SECTION 27-62 TO 27-65 RESERVED, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR
9:56:19AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
9:56:22AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:56:22AM >> SECOND.
9:56:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
9:56:26AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:56:27AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:56:28AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WESTBOUND VIERA --
9:56:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NUMBER 4674.
9:56:47AM >>LACHONE DOCK: THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLICLY INITIATED
9:56:50AM AMENDMENT AND IT'S BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND I'M
9:56:52AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:56:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM
9:56:56AM NUMBER 44?
9:56:58AM IS THE.
9:56:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:56:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:57:01AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:57:04AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
9:57:06AM OPPOSED?
9:57:06AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:57:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM 44, FILE NUMBER
9:57:11AM E-2018-8-CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING

9:57:16AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE. CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING
9:57:19AM TO ALLOWABLE SIGN RESTRICTIONS MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF
9:57:22AM TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
9:57:24AM DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-289.3 ALLOWABLE SIGNS,
9:57:29AM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
9:57:32AM THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
9:57:35AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:57:35AM >> SECOND.
9:57:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:57:38AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:57:40AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:57:40AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
9:57:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 45.
9:57:51AM >>LACHONE DOCK: PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
9:57:54AM COUNCIL, ITEM 45 IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
9:57:57AM IT IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING.
9:58:00AM AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:58:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:58:05AM OKAY.
9:58:11AM >>DAVID MECHANIK: 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
9:58:13AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
9:58:16AM COUNCIL APPROVED THIS PROJECT ON FIRST READING TWO WEEKS AGO
9:58:20AM AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:58:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
9:58:24AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 45?

9:58:26AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:58:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:58:31AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
9:58:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:58:34AM OPPOSED?
9:58:34AM MRS. CAPIN.
9:58:35AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: FILE NUMBER PA-18-10.
9:58:40AM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
9:58:42AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
9:58:45AM PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY
9:58:47AM LOCATED AT 1706 WEST CARMEN STREET AND 501 AND 505 NORTH
9:58:55AM FREMONT AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, TO GENERAL MIXED
9:59:00AM USE 24, GMU 24, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU 35, PROVIDING
9:59:06AM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
9:59:09AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:59:11AM >> SECOND.
9:59:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MRS. CAPIN.
9:59:14AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:59:15AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:59:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
9:59:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:59:24AM IF ANYONE IS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 46, 47, 48, PLEASE STAND
9:59:29AM TO BE SWORN IN.
9:59:30AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
9:59:39AM ALL RIGHT.

9:59:39AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 46.
9:59:41AM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:59:46AM THE REQUIRED CHANGES FOR ITEM 46 HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND
9:59:51AM FILED AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
9:59:52AM WE ARE READY FOR SECOND HEARING.
9:59:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:59:57AM IS PETITIONER HERE?
9:59:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:00:04AM MY NAME IS JOSE GARCIA, TAMPA BAY.
10:00:10AM WE WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR THE FIRST READING BACK IN
10:00:16AM SEPTEMBER AND WE ARE HOPING YOU APPROVE THE SECOND READING
10:00:18AM TODAY.
10:00:19AM I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE STAFF OF
10:00:22AM THE CITY, ESPECIALLY MARY SAMANIEGO FOR HER PATIENCE IN
10:00:27AM WORKING US THROUGH THE PROJECT SO WE CAN SUCCESSFULLY BE
10:00:30AM HERE TODAY.
10:00:31AM THANK YOU.
10:00:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:00:33AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO BE SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 46?
10:00:36AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:00:37AM >> SECOND.
10:00:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:00:39AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:00:40AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:00:42AM OPPOSED?

10:00:43AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:00:45AM WILL YOU READ ITEM 46?
10:00:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:00:49AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
10:00:51AM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1928 WEST UNION STREET IN THE
10:00:55AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:00:57AM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16
10:01:00AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:01:03AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:01:04AM DATE.
10:01:05AM >> SECOND.
10:01:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:01:08AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:01:09AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:01:10AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED ...
10:01:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 47.
10:01:29AM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NUMBER 47 IS READY FOR SECOND READING.
10:01:32AM >> DOMAIN HOMES, HERE FOR ANY COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:01:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
10:01:47AM (LAUGHTER)
10:01:48AM ALL RIGHT.
10:01:49AM ANY QUESTIONS?
10:01:51AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 47?
10:01:54AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

10:01:55AM >> SECOND.
10:01:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:01:58AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:02:00AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:02AM OPPOSED?
10:02:02AM MR. COHEN, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 47?
10:02:05AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:02:08AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:02:10AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 815 EAST PALM AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
10:02:14AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:02:16AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
10:02:19AM MULTIFAMILY TO RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, PROVIDING AN
10:02:23AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:02:23AM >> SECOND.
10:02:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:02:27AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:02:28AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:02:31AM OH I'M SORRY, RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:02:32AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:02:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:02:52AM ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:02:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: STAFF IS HERE FOR VACATION, SO THEY VACATED.
10:03:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:03:05AM MR. SUAREZ, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 48?
10:03:08AM SUAREZ?

10:03:09AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48?
10:03:11AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:03:12AM >> SECOND.
10:03:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:03:14AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:03:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:03:16AM OPPOSED?
10:03:17AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:03:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
10:03:20AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2018-80
10:03:24AM ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON MAY 17,
10:03:27AM 2017, WHICH VACATED CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF
10:03:31AM ARCH STREET, EAST OF DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, NORTH OF CYPRESS
10:03:35AM STREET, AND WEST MUCH HIMES AVENUE AMENDING THE CONDITION IN
10:03:39AM SECTION 7-B PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
10:03:42AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:03:42AM >> SECOND.
10:03:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:03:46AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:03:47AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:03:49AM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE] MOTION CARRIED.
10:03:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:03:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN ITEM 49.
10:04:08AM >> IT'S NOT 10:30.
10:04:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS.

10:04:11AM ITEM NUMBER 53.
10:04:12AM >> ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
10:04:23AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
10:04:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:04:29AM OKAY.
10:04:29AM >> MOVE APPROVAL.
10:04:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:34AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:04:35AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:04:36AM OPPOSED?
10:04:37AM MOTION CARRIED.
10:04:40AM ITEM 54.
10:04:41AM >>HARRY COHEN: I AM GOING TO MOVE TO PULL ITEM 54.
10:04:45AM I BELIEVE ON OUR AGENDA THEY ASKED IT BE REMOVED FROM THE
10:04:48AM AGENDA.
10:04:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:04:50AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:04:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:04:53AM OPPOSED?
10:04:54AM OKAY.
10:04:55AM ITEM NUMBER 55.
10:04:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CONTINUE [OFF MICROPHONE.] TO
10:05:05AM OCTOBER 3, 2019 ---2018 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:05:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:05:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:05:14AM OPPOSED?
10:05:14AM OKAY.
10:05:15AM ITEM NUMBER 56.
10:05:16AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:05:20AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 56.
10:05:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MRS. KERT, BEFORE YOU GET TO NUMBER 56 --
10:05:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I AM SIGNING FORM 8-B CONCERNING A CONFLICT
10:05:32AM OF INTEREST CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
10:05:34AM I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
10:05:40AM I WILL ABSTAIN.
10:05:42AM FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD SHOULD I SAY?
10:05:44AM OR CAN I STAY IN THE HEARING OR SHOULD I LEAVE?
10:05:47AM WHAT IS THE OPINION OF OUR COUNSEL?
10:05:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNSEL'S POSITION, BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE
10:05:52AM TO LEAVE THE DAIS AT THIS TIME.
10:05:55AM THAT'S IN THE TRADITION OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:05:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
10:06:00AM I JUST WANTED TO ASK BE SINCE IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:06:02AM IT IS AN ITEM ON STAFF REPORT.
10:06:04AM SO I WANTED TO ASK.
10:06:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:06:07AM AND YOU ARE FILING THE FORM.
10:06:09AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:06:14AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 56 WHICH IS THE FINAL REVIEW OF A FORMAL
10:06:21AM DETERMINATION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR REQUEST LOCATED AT

10:06:24AM 3203 NORTH PERRY AVENUE.
10:06:26AM CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY MODIFIED, DIRECTED MODIFICATION TO
10:06:31AM THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
10:06:33AM AND PURSUANT TO YOUR ORDINANCE, YOU REVISE THAT ORDER
10:06:40AM CONSISTENT WITH AND TO RETURN TO YOU WITHIN 45 DAYS.
10:06:43AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY.
10:06:44AM SO YOU CAN EITHER MOVE THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FINAL
10:06:48AM ORDER OR YOU CAN ADVISE ME THAT THE ORDER IS NOT CONSISTENT
10:06:53AM WITH THE MOTION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FILED.
10:06:57AM MADE.
10:06:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S WHAT I HEARD THE FIRST TIME.
10:07:01AM SO I AM GLAD YOU REPEATED IT BECAUSE IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT
10:07:03AM TO KNOW THAT.
10:07:04AM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:07:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL?
10:07:13AM CAN WE GET A MOTION?
10:07:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:07:16AM >> SECOND.
10:07:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:07:18AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:07:20AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:07:22AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:07:24AM OPPOSED?
10:07:25AM >> NAY.
10:07:26AM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]

10:07:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 57.
10:07:34AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:07:41AM I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT FURTHER CONSIDERATION ON ENABLE A
10:07:47AM PACE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:07:50AM AND I MADE CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS IN REVIEWING WHAT'S GOING
10:07:55AM ON.
10:07:55AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS ALMOST 700 OF THESE THAT HAVE BEEN
10:07:58AM APPROVED AS LOANS.
10:07:59AM AND I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR HILLSBOROUGH
10:08:05AM COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER, BECAUSE PASCO COUNTY ACTUALLY DID
10:08:09AM SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE, WHICH IS THEY
10:08:14AM HAVE A TRUTH IN LENDING STATEMENT THAT THEY MAKE EACH AND
10:08:16AM EVERY PARTY SIGN, BOTH THE CONTRACTOR, AND THE ISSUE HASN'T
10:08:21AM BEEN SO MUCH WITH LENDERS.
10:08:22AM IT'S BEEN MORE WITH THE CONTRACTORS.
10:08:24AM AND SO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IN PASCO COUNTY, IN ORDER TO
10:08:30AM STOP SOME OF THE ABUSES OF THE UNSOPHISTICATED OR ELDERLY,
10:08:34AM HAS GENERATED A TRUTH IN LENDING FORM, THAT HE MAKES THE
10:08:38AM CONTRACTOR, THE LENDER AND THE HOMEOWNER SIGN.
10:08:42AM AND HAS THAT RECORDED.
10:08:44AM SO I AM HAVING CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH
10:08:47AM COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
10:08:50AM COULD BE DONE IN OUR MARKETPLACE, AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING
10:08:55AM CAN BE DONE, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN RECOMMENDING A
10:08:59AM PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

10:09:00AM BUT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, I STILL FEEL THERE ARE NOT
10:09:03AM ENOUGH SAFEGUARDS FOR THE CONSUMERS.
10:09:07AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE IN PLACE PRIOR TO
10:09:09AM MOVING FORWARD.
10:09:11AM I CAN COME BACK IN DECEMBER AND REPORT ON PROGRESS ON THAT.
10:09:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:09:21AM AS YOU KNOW MY OBJECTION WITH THIS ALL ALONG IS THAT IT GOES
10:09:23AM ON YOUR TAX DEED AND THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND NOBODY KNOWS
10:09:27AM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
10:09:28AM AND MAYBE NO ONE LOST THEIR HOME, AND ONCE YOU PUT THEM ON
10:09:33AM THEIR TAX DEEDS, WHETHER GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT, THEY ARE
10:09:37AM GUARANTEED PAYMENT.
10:09:38AM AND IN AMERICA EVERYBODY HAS GOT TO HAVE REWARDS, BUT ALONG
10:09:41AM WITH REWARDS COMES RISK.
10:09:43AM AND I APPRECIATE WHAT PASCO COUNTY HAS DONE.
10:09:46AM I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
10:09:47AM AND MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO FACILITATE ALL PARTIES.
10:09:50AM BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, IT'S ONLY ON ONE SIDE AND I
10:09:54AM DON'T APPRECIATE THAT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
10:09:55AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: UP UNTIL MY RECENT CONVERSATIONS, THE
10:09:59AM TAMPA BOARD OF REALTORS IS ANOTHER GROUP THAT DOES NOT FEEL
10:10:02AM COMFORTABLE HAVING IT AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT SELLING
10:10:06AM A HOUSE AND THAT TRANSFERS ALONG AND SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE
10:10:10AM BUYING DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO.
10:10:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH THAT.

10:10:14AM AND YOU ARE RIGHT.
10:10:15AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THEY ARE NOT GETTING THE FULL BENEFIT OF
10:10:17AM WHAT TRANSPIRES BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE COST OF SOME OF THESE
10:10:22AM IMPROVEMENTS WITH FINANCING ARE EXPENSIVE.
10:10:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU.
10:10:30AM THIS IS THE THING THAT I THINK WE OVERLOOK IN THE TIME WE
10:10:33AM HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
10:10:35AM THIS IS VOLUNTARY.
10:10:38AM A PERSON HAS TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION IF THEY WANT TO
10:10:41AM PARTICIPATE.
10:10:41AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:10:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S NOT MANDATORY.
10:10:44AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: NO, SIR.
10:10:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE RISKS THAT
10:10:47AM THEY ARE TAKING.
10:10:48AM AND HOW CAN YOU PROPOSE TO PROTECT SOMEBODY WHEN THEY ARE
10:10:55AM MAKING A DECISION ON THEIR OWN TO DO THIS?
10:10:57AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: WELL, I THINK, MR. REDDICK, IF I WAS GOING
10:11:01AM TO POINT TO AN EXAMPLE, THE STATE JUST STOPPED THAT ONE
10:11:07AM LENDER FOR CAR LOANS.
10:11:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I SAW THAT.
10:11:10AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AGAIN TO PROTECT THE CONSUMER.
10:11:13AM AND SOMETIMES SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED OR
10:11:17AM ATTRACTED TO THESE LOANS ARE NOT VERY SOPHISTICATED.
10:11:21AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY AWARE

10:11:24AM OF WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO, AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE
10:11:28AM BUYING AN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM IF, IF YOU DON'T PAY FOR
10:11:31AM IT YOU COULD LOSE YOUR HOUSE.
10:11:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT COMING BACK IN
10:11:36AM DECEMBER?
10:11:36AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: YES, SIR.
10:11:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU COME BACK IN DECEMBER
10:11:39AM WE CAN BRING SOME CLOSURE HERE WHETHER WE DO IT UP OR DOWN.
10:11:44AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: YES, SIR.
10:11:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:11:46AM BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME NOW.
10:11:48AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: IT HAS.
10:11:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:11:50AM YES, MA'AM.
10:11:50AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:11:52AM I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:11:53AM THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP AND SAID IT'S USUALLY SOMEWHERE
10:11:57AM IN THE MIDDLE WITH 8%.
10:12:00AM AS OPPOSED TO A LOAN THAT COULD BE 20 OR 30% WHERE THEY GO
10:12:06AM THAT TELLS YOU HOW UNSOPHISTICATED.
10:12:08AM WHAT HAPPENS IS THE POOR ALWAYS PAY MORE, ALWAYS.
10:12:13AM AND WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING.
10:12:16AM WHETHER THEY ARE SOPHISTICATED OR NOT.
10:12:18AM AND WHEN YOU ARE BUYING A HOME, YOU ARE ASSUMING AN 8% LOAN,
10:12:23AM OR WHATEVER PERCENT THAT IS, EVEN IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.

10:12:27AM AS A CONSUMER, ON THE OTHER END, THE MOST I HAVE PAID IS 4%.
10:12:37AM SO I LOOK AT IT AS DOUBLE WHAT I PAY.
10:12:40AM AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE.
10:12:42AM SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT MEETS ALL OF THE STUFF THAT WE
10:12:48AM CAN PUT IN THAT WOULD HELP THE CONSUMER IN OUR CITY.
10:12:52AM I AM NOT AGAINST IT.
10:12:53AM I THINK IT COULD BE AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM.
10:12:55AM WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE IT BETTER.
10:12:57AM >> I AGREE.
10:12:59AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:13:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, SIR?
10:13:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALSO ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS IN THAT THERE'S
10:13:08AM FREEDOM OF CONTRACTS AND WE HAVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE
10:13:11AM DECISIONS ON THEIR OWN BUT THEY HAVE TO EMPOWERED OF KNOWING
10:13:14AM THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
10:13:15AM HAVING BOUGHT A HOUSE IN JULY OF 2006, A MONTH BEFORE THE
10:13:18AM MARKET STARTED GOING DOWN, I KNOW ABOUT ECONOMIC
10:13:20AM CONSEQUENCES.
10:13:21AM [LAUGHTER]
10:13:22AM RIGHT THE DAY BEFORE IT STARTED GOING DOWN.
10:13:27AM LUCKILY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING TURNED OUT OKAY WITH THAT
10:13:29AM HOUSE BUT NOT EVERYBODY WAS SO FORTUNATE.
10:13:31AM SO HAVING LIVED THROUGH THAT, WE CAN HONOR FREEDOM OF
10:13:34AM CONTRACT.
10:13:34AM BUT WE HAVE TO ALSO HONOR THE TRADITIONAL ROLE OF GOVERNMENT

10:13:37AM TO EMPOWER EVERYDAY WORKING INDIVIDUALS TO BE EMPOWERED, TO
10:13:41AM KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF DIRECTIONS AND TO PROTECT PEOPLE.
10:13:44AM AND I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DONE
10:13:46AM HERE.
10:13:47AM SO I SALUTE YOU ALL FOR THAT.
10:13:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:13:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE BACK WITH
10:13:54AM US?
10:13:55AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: IN DECEMBER.
10:13:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IN DECEMBER?
10:13:58AM OKAY.
10:13:58AM I DIDN'T HEAR THAT PART.
10:14:00AM OR I HEARD IT AND DIDN'T REMEMBER.
10:14:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THE DATE AGAIN?
10:14:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HE CAN GIVE US A DATE IN DECEMBER.
10:14:07AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: MIDDLE OF DECEMBER.
10:14:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE LAST MEETING IS DECEMBER 20th.
10:14:15AM THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH IS DECEMBER 6th.
10:14:17AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: DECEMBER 20th AND I WILL BE HERE WITH
10:14:20AM A CHRISTMAS PRESENT, MY PRESENTATION.
10:14:23AM (LAUGHTER).
10:14:24AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO HAVE MR. MCDONAUGH --
10:14:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S CHRISTMAS, NOT HALLOWEEN.
10:14:34AM MUCH.
10:14:35AM >> DECEMBER 20th AT 10:30, STAFF REPORTS.

10:14:39AM >>CHAIRMAN: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:14:40AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:14:41AM OPPOSED?
10:14:42AM ALL RIGHT.
10:14:42AM WE STAND IN RECESS FOR 15 MINUTES UNTIL 10:30.
10:14:47AM ALL RIGHT?
10:14:51AM (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).
10:34:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:34:19AM WE ARE GOING TO REJOIN THIS COUNCIL MEETING AND ROLL CALL.
10:34:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
10:34:26AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
10:34:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:34:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:34:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:34:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
10:34:35AM ALL RIGHT.
10:34:35AM WE GO TO OUR 10:30.
10:34:37AM AND THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WILL BE --
10:34:40AM >> MOVE TO OPEN NUMBERS 50 THROUGH 52.
10:34:44AM >> SECOND.
10:34:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, 49.
10:34:47AM >> 49.
10:34:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:34:51AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:34:52AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

10:34:53AM OPPOSED?
10:34:54AM OKAY.
10:34:55AM WE GO TO ITEM 49.
10:34:57AM YES, SIR.
10:34:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO REFRESH COUNCIL'S RECOLLECTION, ITEM 49
10:35:01AM WAS HEARD ON SEPTEMBER 13th, THE EVENING SESSION.
10:35:04AM AND COUNCIL PASSED A MOTION TO NOT PASS THE ORDINANCE ON
10:35:09AM FIRST READING.
10:35:11AM WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION WHY IS IT ON THE AGENDA FOR SECOND
10:35:14AM READING?
10:35:15AM THE REASON IS BECAUSE THIS WAS SET BY A RESOLUTION OF CITY
10:35:18AM COUNCIL.
10:35:19AM THE CLERK DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE SOMETHING
10:35:21AM FROM THE AGENDA ABSENT A MOTION OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:35:23AM SO FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT IN A POSTURE WHERE YOU CAN MOVE IT
10:35:29AM TO SECOND READING BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE HEARD ON SECOND
10:35:31AM READING BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HEAR IT ON FIRST READING.
10:35:34AM IT IS NOTICED.
10:35:35AM IT IS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
10:35:37AM IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AS TO HOW IT WISHES TO PROCEED.
10:35:40AM ALSO, A REMINDER, I BELIEVE YOU DID GET A LETTER RELATIVE TO
10:35:44AM THIS THAT WAS REFERENCED BY TODD PRESSMAN DURING PUBLIC
10:35:48AM COMMENT, A LETTER FROM JOHN GRANDOFF WHO REPRESENTS SOMEBODY
10:35:51AM WHO BROUGHT SOMETHING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
10:35:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM

10:35:56AM THE AGENDA?
10:35:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:35:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS
10:36:01AM ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
10:36:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:36:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:36:05AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:36:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:36:12AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: CAN I BE HEARD ON THE MOTION?
10:36:15AM >> IT IS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
10:36:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT IS BUT FOR SECOND READING.
10:36:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT ARE NOT
10:36:24AM TROUBLING, BUT IS THIS THE FOLLOWING MEETING, THE THING TO
10:36:29AM APPEAL AFTER ONE WEEK OR SOMETHING?
10:36:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
10:36:33AM THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION --
10:36:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT ON EITHER SIDE.
10:36:38AM I'M JUST TRYING TO CLEAR UP ALL PROCEDURES.
10:36:41AM I AM GOING TO BE MAKING A MOTION LATER ON SO THESE THINGS
10:36:43AM WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE THE MOTION I WILL MAKE LATER
10:36:46AM ON WILL BE SOMETHING IN THE WORDING ONCE THE FIRST FEED
10:36:51AM READING FAILS THE SECOND READING IS AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN OUT
10:36:54AM SO WE HAVE CLARITY SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN SO THOSE
10:36:57AM INDIVIDUALS DON'T WASTE THEIR TIME BEING HERE.
10:36:59AM BUT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN ON THE FOLLOWING MEETING TO APPEAL

10:37:03AM COUNCIL'S DECISION.
10:37:04AM SO NOW WE ARE FACED WITH SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
10:37:07AM AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN OUT BUT BY THE RULES, AND I UNDERSTAND
10:37:11AM WHAT RULES ARE FOR, I DON'T THINK THAT PROHIBITS US FROM
10:37:15AM CANCELING THIS MEETING WITHOUT LISTENING TO ANYBODY.
10:37:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:37:19AM AND WE EXTEND THREE MINUTES.
10:37:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: COULD I JUST GET ONE CLARIFICATION?
10:37:24AM FIRST WE HAVE MY MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:37:26AM IF YOU WOULD LAKE ME TO TABLE IT I WILL IN ORDER TO ALLOW
10:37:29AM THE OTHER INFORMATION TO COME OUT BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD
10:37:32AM BE A DIRECTION THAT THIS IS NOT A RELITIGATION OF THE SAME
10:37:35AM ISSUES, OR A NEW PROCEDURE THAT'S COMING FORWARD.
10:37:39AM MR. MIRANDA CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT OUR PROCEDURAL
10:37:43AM PROBLEMS ARE WHAT CREATED THIS.
10:37:45AM THEY SHOULDN'T BE HEARD.
10:37:47AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM ALLOWING HIM TO SPEAK BUT I THINK A
10:37:50AM QUESTION NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CLEAR.
10:37:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND IF YOU WILL TABLE YOUR MOTION.
10:37:55AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WILL TABLE THE MOTION.
10:37:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALLOW MR. GRANDOFF THREE MINUTES COURTESY
10:38:00AM COMMENTS.
10:38:01AM AND ALSO ANY COMMENTS WE ARE GOING TO HEAR.
10:38:04AM AND WE ARE GOING TO VOTE.
10:38:05AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA ON

10:38:08AM BEHALF -- PARDON ME?
10:38:12AM ON BEHALF OF BROOME CAPITAL.
10:38:15AM I AM NOT HERE ASKING FOR RECONSIDERATION.
10:38:17AM I'M SIMPLY ASKING TO BE HEARD ON THIS ORDINANCE THAT WAS
10:38:23AM VOTED DOWN AT THE LAST MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ASKING
10:38:26AM YOU TO EXTRACT FROM THE ORDINANCE THE CVD PROVISIONS AS TO
10:38:34AM STORAGE, AND DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN
10:38:37AM ORDINANCE APPROVING THE CBD REVISIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT
10:38:41AM WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
10:38:44AM THE OPPOSITION WAS FROM CHANNELSIDE AND THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE
10:38:49AM WAS COLLAPSED BY YOUR VOTE OF NO, AND WE WENT DOWN WITH IT.
10:38:53AM WE SIMPLY WOULD ASK THAT -- WE WOULD HAVE COME AT PUBLIC
10:38:57AM COMMENT.
10:38:57AM HOWEVER, SINCE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD
10:39:00AM COME WHEN ITEM 49 FOR SAKE OF CLARITY.
10:39:03AM WE SIMPLY WANT TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN
10:39:06AM ORDINANCE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT, AS IT APPLIES TO THE CBD
10:39:10AM DISTRICT.
10:39:10AM THAT'S IT.
10:39:11AM MR. JORDAN FARRALES IS HERE WITH BROOME CAPITAL, WITH THE
10:39:17AM OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, ON THE NORTH --
10:39:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD ME.
10:39:23AM I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD WHAT I SAID.
10:39:27AM I SAID WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW YOU THREE MINUTES AND THEN
10:39:29AM VOTE.

10:39:31AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: OKAY.
10:39:32AM WELL, I'M FINISHED.
10:39:33AM >> AND WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING NOW IS THE SAME THING WE
10:39:39AM TURNED DOWN ON FIRST READING.
10:39:42AM YOU SUGGESTED THAT WE MOVE CERTAIN THINGS AND JUST VOTE ON
10:39:46AM THE CENTRAL DISTRICT.
10:39:47AM WE VOTED THAT DOWN.
10:39:48AM AND NOW YOU ARE ASKING US TO RECONSIDER THE SAME THING.
10:39:52AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I'M EXERCISING A RIGHT TO ASK YOU TO PASS
10:39:55AM LEGISLATION ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT INDEPENDENT OF WHAT YOU
10:39:58AM VOTED ON A FEW WEEKS AGO.
10:40:02AM I SPOKE AT THE HEARING, MRS. KERT AGREED THAT MY SUGGESTION
10:40:04AM WAS VIABLE TO SIMPLY PASS THE CBD REQUIREMENTS.
10:40:09AM THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR.
10:40:10AM WE DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT UP IN ALL OF THE ISSUES WITH
10:40:14AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:40:14AM IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE DISTRICT.
10:40:17AM AND MR. FARRALES WILL SPEAK TO YOU.
10:40:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK COUNCIL.
10:40:22AM COUNCIL, GUIDE ME.
10:40:25AM DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE AND THEN VOTE?
10:40:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR.
10:40:29AM I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE USE OF THE EXERCISE IS.
10:40:33AM I THINK THE PROPER PROCESS IS -- I MAY BE WRONG AND THE
10:40:38AM LAWYERS WILL TELL ME -- IS WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED TO NOT GO

10:40:42AM FORWARD WITH. THIS WE WOULD VOTE TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE
10:40:44AM AGENDA.
10:40:45AM IF HE WANTS TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE
10:40:49AM PLANNING COMMISSION AND COMES BACK TO US, THAT'S A PROPER
10:40:51AM PROCEDURE IF I AM CORRECT.
10:40:53AM I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THAT BUT I THINK THAT'S THE PROPER
10:40:55AM PROCEDURE.
10:40:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MRS. KERT?
10:40:59AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:41:00AM YES.
10:41:00AM THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION FOR HIM IF HE WANTED TO BRING
10:41:03AM THIS BACK TO YOU.
10:41:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:41:04AM MR. MIRANDA.
10:41:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THE THINGS THAT I
10:41:07AM HEAR MOST FROM THE COMMUNITY IS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE LACK
10:41:11AM OF PARKING SPACES.
10:41:13AM AND WHEN WE DO SOMETHING IN GENERAL THAT REGARDS PARKING, IT
10:41:17AM STAYS THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
10:41:20AM AND WHAT WE NEED IN THE CITY IS NOT LESS PARKING BUT MORE
10:41:23AM PARKING OF SOME KIND.
10:41:25AM YOU CAN'T CONTINUE TO BRING DEVELOPMENT, AND THANK GOD IT'S
10:41:30AM COMING, WITHOUT HAVING ADEQUATE TRANSPORTATION, ADEQUATE
10:41:33AM PARKING, AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.
10:41:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER COUNCIL WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS?

10:41:42AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU ASKED FOR COUNCIL.
10:41:45AM I WOULD HEAR IT OUT.
10:41:52AM OTHERWISE, NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO, I THINK TO LISTEN
10:42:02AM TO --
10:42:03AM >>HARRY COHEN: LET'S GO AHEAD AND LISTEN AND MOVE ON.
10:42:05AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU FOR AGREEING WITH ME.
10:42:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, SIR, LET'S GO.
10:42:09AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THE REASON FOR THE AMENDMENT WAS TO
10:42:12AM AVOID --
10:42:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SIR, YOU SAID YOU WERE THROUGH.
10:42:16AM LET'S GO.
10:42:16AM >> JORDAN FARRALES, 6911 PISTOL RANGE ROAD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:42:25AM I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE PROVISIONS
10:42:29AM RELATING TO THE CBD ONLY, EXCLUDING SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND THE
10:42:33AM CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:42:35AM BUT AFTER CITY COUNCIL HAD VOTED IN DENIAL OF THE FULL TEXT
10:42:38AM AMENDMENT WHICH INCLUDED ALL THREE SECTIONS, I ASKED CITY
10:42:42AM STAFF FOR ALL THE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION SO I COULD STUDY AND
10:42:46AM REACH OUT TO THEM.
10:42:47AM ONE LETTER IN PARTICULAR STOOD OUT TO ME DATED JUNE 11 FROM
10:42:51AM JOHN PIPER, SOUTH STORAGE LLC, WHICH IS A STORAGE FACILITY
10:42:56AM LOCATED AT 102 NORTH 20th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA WHICH
10:42:59AM WAS JUST OPENED FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO.
10:43:02AM THEY ENGAGED TODD PRESSMAN TO REPRESENT THEM IN OPPOSITION
10:43:06AM OF THIS PROJECT.

10:43:09AM IN THEIR LETTER, THEY NOTE THAT THEY ARE TWO MILES OUTSIDE
10:43:12AM THE HEART OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:43:14AM THE REASONS FOR THEM NOT HAVING SUPPORT OVER THIS TEXT
10:43:18AM AMENDMENT AS IT RELATED TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WERE, ONE,
10:43:22AM PROVISIONS WERE NOT NECESSARY FOR SUCCESSFUL STORAGE
10:43:24AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:43:24AM I THINK THAT'S SUBJECTIVE.
10:43:27AM SAID REVISIONS OPEN FLOODGATES FOR UNCONTROLLED SELF-STORAGE
10:43:30AM IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:43:31AM I THINK THAT THAT'S ALSO INCORRECT.
10:43:34AM THEY ALSO STATE THAT IT REMOVES THE 40% RESIDENTIAL STANDARD
10:43:38AM AND WILL HURT RESIDENTS DUE TO HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
10:43:41AM NOT TO REITERATE, WHAT THESE PROVISIONS IN EACH SECTION WERE
10:43:45AM TO BE CHANGED, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS CHANGING IN THE
10:43:48AM CHANNEL DISTRICT WAS RESPECT TO SELF-STORAGE WAS INCLUDING
10:43:52AM PARKING WHERE IT CHANGED IT FROM TWO SPOTS PER EMPLOYEE ON
10:43:57AM THE LARGEST SHIFT TO ONE PER 50 TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH
10:44:01AM THE PARKING STANDARD.
10:44:02AM THERE WAS NO REMOVAL OF A 60% RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT IN THE
10:44:08AM CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:44:08AM THAT STILL STAYS AND IT'S STILL IN THE ORIGINAL CODE.
10:44:13AM THE ONLY THING THAT WAS CHANGING WITH RESPECT TO THE CBD,
10:44:16AM THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO ANY SORT OF PARKING.
10:44:19AM IT STILL STAYS AT 1 PER HUNDRED AS IN THE CODE IT SEEM
10:44:24AM STORAGE IS ALLOWED NORTH OF HARRISON STREET, CURRENTLY WITH

10:44:27AM RESPECT TO THE CODE WITH AN SU-2 APPROVAL.
10:44:29AM THE ONLY THINGS THAT WE ARE CHANGING WITH RESPECT TO THE CBD
10:44:32AM WERE ONE THAT IS A PERMITTED USE WHICH BYPASSES THE C 2
10:44:37AM PROCESS AND, TWO, THAT RATHER THAN 60% BEING A RESIDENTIAL
10:44:41AM MIXED USE 40% SELF-STORAGE, THE 60% PORTION COULD BE ANY
10:44:45AM SORT OF USE.
10:44:46AM RETAIL, OFFICE, RESTAURANT, ET CETERA.
10:44:49AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:44:50AM WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THE REAL ISSUE IS ABOUT COMPETITION.
10:44:55AM THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY THAT MR. PIPER OWNS THAT OPENED
10:44:59AM FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO, I SPOKE WITH DAVE STAFFORD OF EXTRA
10:45:03AM SPACE.
10:45:03AM THEY ARE IN THE LOW SINGLE DIGITS OCCUPANCY RUNNING A
10:45:07AM TWO-MONTH FREE SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY ARE IN AN INFERIOR
10:45:11AM LOCATION.
10:45:11AM 5400 SOUTH WESTSHORE IS 25% AFTER BEING OPEN SINCE MAY 15
10:45:17AM WITH A ONE MONTH FREE SPECIAL.
10:45:20AM WEST GANDY IS AT --
10:45:22AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:45:22AM THANK YOU.
10:45:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
10:45:25AM >> I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPER SHOULD BE PENALIZED.
10:45:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND.
10:45:31AM WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF HELPING YOU WITH YOUR
10:45:33AM COMPETITION.

10:45:34AM SO THAT BEING SAID, THE REST OF IT I HEARD.
10:45:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME JUST SAY. THIS I, AND I'M SURE I
10:45:40AM CAN SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES, WE DON'T PASS ANYTHING ON
10:45:43AM PROTECTIONISM FOR YOU OR AGAINST YOU.
10:45:46AM FOR THEM OR AGAINST THEM.
10:45:48AM FOR THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, THE GENTLEMAN NEXT TO YOU, LET IT
10:45:51AM BE VERY CLEAR TO YOU, I AND THE REST OF THE BOARD HERE DO
10:45:54AM NOT -- DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR DAMN
10:45:58AM BUSINESS OR NOT.
10:45:59AM DON'T COME HERE POINTING AT US LAKE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING
10:46:02AM FOR PROTECTIONISM.
10:46:03AM I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.
10:46:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:46:14AM MY NAME IS BRYAN RAY, A REGISTERED ARCHITECT AND RESIDE AT
10:46:18AM 724 LAKE DAVIS DRIVE, ORLANDO, FLORIDA. I ALSO OWN FIVE
10:46:24AM PROPERTIES IN TAMPA SINCE 2013 LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL
10:46:26AM BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IN PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE
10:46:29AM INVESTED IN THE THIS CITY.
10:46:31AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 49 AND TO
10:46:34AM REQUEST EXEMPTION E-2018-8-CH 27 ON PROOF BEHALF OF BROOME
10:46:43AM CAPITAL AS PRESENTED BY JOHN GRANDOFF BE CONSIDERED AND
10:46:48AM APPROVED.
10:46:50AM REQUESTING TO SEPARATE THE DISTRICT FROM THE ORDINANCE WHICH
10:46:53AM ALSO INCLUDED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND CHANNELSIDE.
10:46:56AM AT YOUR PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL HEARING, NO OBJECTION WAS

10:46:58AM STATED IN REGARDS TO CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
10:47:02AM OBJECTIONS STATED AT THAT HEARING FROM WHICH YOU BASED YOUR
10:47:05AM VOTE FOR REFERENCING SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND CHANNELSIDE
10:47:09AM OPPOSITION.
10:47:10AM WE BELIEVE THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH HAS A ZONING
10:47:13AM REQUIREMENT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS
10:47:16AM AND ZONE DISTRICT, WARRANTS BEING EVALUATED SEPARATELY.
10:47:20AM IN MY OPINION AS AN ARCHITECT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
10:47:23AM IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE ZONING THAT YOU HAVE ON A PROPERTY IN
10:47:27AM A NEIGHBORHOOD, THE DENSITY YOU CAN DO, YOUR SETBACKS, THE
10:47:30AM USES AND ALL THAT, IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT IN THE CENTRAL
10:47:34AM BUSINESS DISTRICT THAN IT IS IN THE OTHERS.
10:47:36AM THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE.
10:47:39AM BROOME CAPITAL IS HOPING TO CONSTRUCT A MIXED USE BUILDING
10:47:42AM IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WHICH INCLUDES SELF-STORAGE
10:47:45AM IN AN EVENT VENUE ON THE TOP FLOOR. THIS PROJECT WOULD
10:47:48AM BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY IN NUMEROUS WAYS.
10:47:51AM MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU USE
10:47:54AM SELF-STORAGE FACILITIES WITH THE CONTINUED DECREASE IN SIZE
10:47:58AM OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS WHICH AS YOU HAVE SEEN THESE
10:48:01AM MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS GOING UP, YOU DON'T SEE THREE AND FOUR
10:48:04AM BEDROOM UNITS ANYMORE.
10:48:05AM YOU SEE MICROUNITS, ONES AND TWOS WITH VERY LIMITED STORAGE
10:48:09AM CAPACITY WITHIN THE UNIT.
10:48:11AM THAT IS WHAT'S SPURRING ON THE SELF-STORAGE DEVELOPMENT

10:48:15AM NEED.
10:48:16AM SO IT SERVES A PURPOSE TO GO AND PROVIDE SPACE FOR THOSE
10:48:19AM PEOPLE.
10:48:20AM IT ALSO GOES WITH THIS EVENT VENUE PORTION ASSOCIATED WITH
10:48:26AM IT.
10:48:26AM IT ACTUALLY ALSO ENGAGES THE COMMUNITY.
10:48:30AM YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE WEDDINGS, RECEPTIONS, SUITE
10:48:33AM 16th, CORPORATE EVENTS AND MORE.
10:48:36AM WOULD ADD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS PUT TO USE NEWLY
10:48:39AM CONSTRUCTED CITY PARKING LOT WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE SITE
10:48:42AM ON JEFFERSON --
10:48:45AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:48:48AM I'M HALFWAY THROUGH SO I WILL HAVE TO GO.
10:48:50AM BASICALLY IN SHORT, I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF CENTRAL
10:48:57AM BUSINESS DISTRICT, ITS ZONING BEING SO DIFFERENT THAN THE
10:49:00AM ZONE THAT'S APPLIED FOR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND FOR
10:49:03AM CHANNELSIDE, THAT ALONE WARRANTS IT TO BE SEPARATED,
10:49:08AM EVALUATED ON ITS OWN MERIT.
10:49:10AM AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS DUE PROCESS, IF IT WANED UP NOT
10:49:16AM MEETING --
10:49:17AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:49:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:18AM YOUR TIME IS UP.
10:49:19AM NEXT.
10:49:19AM >> TODD PRESSMAN.

10:49:28AM IT'S NO SECRET, I FILED MORE THAN I THINK A DOZEN LOBBYIST
10:49:34AM REPORTS OF WHY I AM HERE AND WHO I AM REPRESENTING.
10:49:37AM WE SIMPLY WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND MADE THE PUBLIC AWARE
10:49:40AM OF THIS ORDINANCE.
10:49:42AM YOU HAD A PARADE OF BUSINESS LEADERS, BUSINESS PEOPLE,
10:49:47AM COMMUNITY LEADERS AND CITIZENS WHO RESPONSIBLE AGAINST THE
10:49:49AM ENTIRE ORDINANCE.
10:49:50AM THEY DIDN'T -- THEY SAID THEY DID NOT WANT THIS ORDINANCE
10:49:53AM PASSED.
10:49:56AM THEY WERE CONCERNED, MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT THE CBD
10:50:00AM CRICKET WAS BROUGHT UP, A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AS WELL.
10:50:03AM PART OF IT IS THAT YOUR S-2 WILL BE REMOVED.
10:50:06AM THOSE FOLKS THAT CAME TO SPEAK WITH YOU, AND THERE WAS A
10:50:09AM PARADE OF FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW, 15 OR 20, THEY TOOK A LOOK AT
10:50:15AM THAT ORDINANCE.
10:50:16AM IT CREATES A STANDARD.
10:50:17AM IT CREATES PRECEDENT.
10:50:19AM THE MESSAGE THAT I HEARD WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T -- THEY HAD
10:50:22AM CONCERNS ABOUT BE THE USE OF THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS
10:50:26AM DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS IN TERMS OF HOW MINI WAREHOUSES
10:50:29AM WERE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
10:50:33AM BUT PART OF WHAT WE NEED HERE IS A CLOSURE OR COMPLETION.
10:50:38AM I HAVE HEARD AMENDMENTS.
10:50:40AM I HAVE HEARD GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:50:41AM I HAVE HEARD GOING BACK TO TWO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, TWO

10:50:45AM CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
10:50:45AM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MESSAGE.
10:50:47AM I THINK ON BEHALF OF THE MANY CITIZENS AS TO REALLY WHERE
10:50:51AM THIS ISSUE CITY COUNCIL IS.
10:50:53AM I HAVE HEARD A COUPLE COMMENTS.
10:50:55AM WE WOULD ASK FOR THAT.
10:50:57AM IN REGARD TO THE COMMUNICATION RECEIVED FROM THE CITIZENS,
10:51:01AM YOU HAVE HEARD ALL OF THAT.
10:51:02AM WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS ON THAT.
10:51:03AM I THINK THAT MESSAGE IS VERY CLEAR.
10:51:05AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND HAVING TO COME
10:51:07AM DOWN AGAIN TO SPEAK WITH YOU ON THIS MATTER.
10:51:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:51:11AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. SUAREZ, SECOND BY MR.
10:51:15AM MIRANDA.
10:51:16AM MR. SUAREZ, RESTATE YOUR MOTION.
10:51:18AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 49 FROM
10:51:21AM THE AGENDA.
10:51:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:51:25AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:51:27AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:51:28AM FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:51:30AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:51:32AM OPPOSED?

10:51:33AM BE OKAY.
10:51:36AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON 50, 51 OR 52, PLEASE STAND TO
10:51:40AM BE SWORN IN.
10:51:41AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
10:51:52AM >>CHAIRMAN: ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:51:53AM >> ROBIN HORTON SILVERMAN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WE ARE HERE
10:52:05AM FOR THE REVIEW OF ARC 17-330.
10:52:10AM MR. GRANDOFF, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE CHATMANS HAS REQUESTED A
10:52:14AM CONTINUANCE IN LIGHT OF THE MOTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN
10:52:17AM MADE ON SEPTEMBER 207 AND SEPTEMBER 27 REGARDING TAMPA
10:52:20AM HEIGHTS GUIDELINES FOR FENCES.
10:52:22AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ...
10:52:28AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: MS. SILVERMAN SUMMARIZED THAT. THE
10:52:30AM ESSENCE OF MY LETTER TO -- PARDON ME, MY NAME IS JOHN
10:52:36AM GRANDOFF, SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA ON BEHALF OF
10:52:41AM LEROY CHATMAN AND GLORIA CHATMAN WHO LIVE ON MORGAN STREET,
10:52:45AM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:52:46AM TO REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION, THEY HAVE APPEALED A DECISION
10:52:49AM FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ON THEIR FENCE.
10:52:54AM DURING THE PENDENCY OF THAT APPEAL, THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE
10:52:57AM DIRECTION FOR THE HPC STAFF TO STUDY FENCES IN TAMPA
10:53:02AM HEIGHTS.
10:53:03AM MRS. CAPIN MADE A MOTION THAT WAS SECONDED BY MR. COHEN A
10:53:06AM FEW WEEKS AGO TO HAVE THE STAFF COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 1 WITH
10:53:12AM A REPORT.

10:53:14AM I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE OUR HEARING UNTIL AFTER THE REPORT
10:53:17AM IS DELIVERED BECAUSE IT REFLECTS ON THE MERITS OF MY
10:53:19AM CLIENT'S CASE.
10:53:21AM I THINK IF WE COULD ASK THE CITY STAFF TO CONVEY WHEN THEY
10:53:26AM PLAN TO HAVE THE REPORT RETURNED, PERHAPS HAVE OUR HEARING
10:53:30AM 30 DAYS AFTER THAT REPORT IS RETURNED.
10:53:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:53:35AM STAFF, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR HAVING THAT REPORT?
10:53:38AM >> RACHEL PETERKIN WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:53:46AM I THINK THAT STAFF MAY NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO ADDRESS
10:53:49AM THAT ISSUE AND CONSIDER SOME OF THE OPTIONS AND MAYBE SPEAK
10:53:52AM TO FOLKS INDIVIDUALLY GOING FORWARD.
10:53:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT TIME ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
10:53:58AM >>RACHEL PETERKIN: IF WE COULD LOOK AT THE JANUARY --
10:54:06AM >> ROBIN HORTON SILVERMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:54:10AM HERE ON BEHALF OF ARC.
10:54:13AM JENNIFER COULDN'T MAKE IT TO TODAY'S HEARING AND IT WAS
10:54:19AM SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29th.
10:54:20AM I KNOW TV TREE ORDINANCE IS ALSO UP.
10:54:25AM I WAS ADVISED BY MR. SHELBY THE NEXT DATE WOULD BE
10:54:29AM JANUARY --
10:54:31AM >>HARRY COHEN: CAN'T WE GET A REPORT?
10:54:32AM DO WE REALLY NEED A WORKSHOP ON THIS?
10:54:35AM I MEAN, FOR US.
10:54:37AM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY --

10:54:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK, CHAIR, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET
10:54:43AM DIRECTION FROM US CONCERNING THE PARTICULAR ISSUES.
10:54:45AM THAT'S WHY THEY WANT A WORKSHOP.
10:54:46AM BUT THE THING IS THAT YOU HAVE GOT TO GIVE US SOME TIME
10:54:49AM FRAME AS TO HOW TO WORKSHOP IT SO WE CAN GO BACK TO MR.
10:54:52AM GRANDOFF AND FIND OUT WHAT DATE WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
10:54:55AM GO FORWARD ON THIS STUFF.
10:54:56AM SO IF IT'S JUST SIMPLISTIC RULES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
10:55:00AM CHANGE, THAT'S EXPLAINABLE TO US, WE MIGHT WANT TO DO IT AS
10:55:03AM A STAFF REPORT I.DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM EITHER WAY.
10:55:05AM BUT GIVE US A DATE SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
10:55:08AM DO NEXT.
10:55:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?
10:55:17AM >> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR STAFF, BUT I THINK THE STAFF NEEDS SOME
10:55:21AM CLARIFICATION AND DIRECTION.
10:55:22AM THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TIME TO MAYBE REPRESENT THE GUIDELINES
10:55:26AM NOVEMBER 1st AND I'M TOLD THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT, THEY
10:55:28AM WOULD NEED TO NOTICE EVERYTHING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:55:30AM I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK.
10:55:34AM THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL TIME.
10:55:36AM I CAN SUGGEST MR. MANASSE COMES BACK AND PRESENT A DATE
10:55:40AM CERTAIN TO COME FORWARD.
10:55:42AM AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE SET IN
10:55:45AM LIGHT OF THE HPC AND GUIDELINES, I WOULD SUGGEST JANUARY
10:55:49AM 24th FOR THE ARC REVIEW FOR NOW.

10:55:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, HERE IS THE THING.
10:55:53AM IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO
10:55:57AM ACCOMPLISH IN THE WORKSHOP?
10:55:58AM THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET TO.
10:55:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I CAN.
10:56:03AM I LEARNED THAT MR. FERNANDEZ, IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME
10:56:08AM TODAY, THAT COUNCILMAN CAPIN SET THAT DATE IN THE ABSENCE OF
10:56:17AM ANY INPUT FROM STAFF.
10:56:18AM AND NOW AFTER STAFF HAD GOTTEN NOTICE OF THE DATE THAT WAS
10:56:20AM SET, THEY REALIZED, IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE ATTORNEYS,
10:56:23AM THAT THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT TIME.
10:56:25AM SO YOU CAN ASK THEM COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 1st, BUT WHAT
10:56:28AM YOU ARE HEARING FROM STAFF IS THAT THEY WILL NOT NECESSARILY
10:56:31AM HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO YOU.
10:56:33AM IF YOU WANT THEM TO COME BACK SOONER OR HAVE THEM COME BACK
10:56:38AM ON NOVEMBER 1st BUT YOU NEED SUFFICIENT TIME --
10:56:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: STAFF REQUESTED ABOUT HAVING A WORKSHOP.
10:56:43AM AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU WANT INCLUDE IN
10:56:48AM A WORKSHOP FOR US TO DISCUSS?
10:56:50AM RIGHT NOW WE AIN'T HEARING NOTHING.
10:56:51AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR.
10:56:55AM A COUPLE THINGS.
10:56:56AM ONE, WE HAD ALREADY SET IT FOR NOVEMBER 1st UNDER STAFF
10:56:59AM REPORTS.
10:56:59AM THAT'S FINE.

10:57:00AM OKAY.
10:57:00AM IF THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE TIME THAT'S ONE ISSUE.
10:57:03AM I THINK THAT SHE MAY HAVE MISSPOKE BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL
10:57:06AM SHE'S THE LAWYER, SHE'S NOT REALLY THE STAFF CONCERNING THIS
10:57:08AM PARTICULAR ISSUE SO SHE'S KIND OF AT A DISADVANTAGE.
10:57:11AM AND I CAN SEE THAT.
10:57:13AM BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO RESET THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER
10:57:17AM TIME FRAME, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING.
10:57:19AM WHAT TIME FRAME ARE YOU LOOKING FOR?
10:57:20AM BECAUSE WE CAN MOVE IT BACK TO THE 15th OF NOVEMBER.
10:57:23AM WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE 6th OF DECEMBER.
10:57:25AM THE 20th.
10:57:26AM THOSE ARE ALL DATES THAT WE CAN PUT IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:57:30AM OBVIOUSLY, YOU SPOKE TO SOMEONE.
10:57:32AM >> RIGHT.
10:57:33AM AND MR. FERNANDEZ ISN'T HERE BUT RON VILLA IS HERE AND HE
10:57:37AM TOLD ME THAT JANUARY 29th WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
10:57:40AM FOR I GUESS --
10:57:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK YOU ARE TALKING THE HEARING PORTION.
10:57:45AM HE WANTS TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT OUR SETBACK FOR FENCING
10:57:50AM IS GOING TO BE AT TAMPA HEIGHTS SO THAT HE KNOWS HOW TO
10:57:53AM PRESENT HIS CASE.
10:57:54AM SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:57:57AM LET'S DO THIS.
10:57:57AM WE'LL SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE.

10:57:59AM WE HAVE IT ALREADY SET FOR NOVEMBER 1st.
10:58:02AM AND IF WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ONE MORE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE
10:58:06AM 18th.
10:58:08AM IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND CHANGE THAT DATE, TELL THEM TO
10:58:10AM COME OVER AND CHANGE IT.
10:58:11AM WHAT DO YOU THINK?
10:58:15AM WE HAVE ALREADY GOT IT SET.
10:58:16AM WE ARE READY TO GO.
10:58:17AM >>HARRY COHEN: THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS WHAT WE ARE GOING
10:58:21AM TO DO WITH MR. GRANDOFF.
10:58:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK JANUARY 29th IS FINE BECAUSE IF
10:58:26AM WE HAVE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP FOR SOME OTHER CHANGE I THINK
10:58:28AM THAT WILL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME.
10:58:29AM THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
10:58:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:58:31AM DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT, MR. GRANDOFF?
10:58:33AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL SECOND COUNCILMAN SUAREZ'S MOTION.
10:58:40AM >> WELL, THERE'S NO MOTION.
10:58:42AM THERE'S REALLY NO MOTION.
10:58:46AM OTHER THAN I GUESS CONTINUE HIS HEARING TO JANUARY 29 OF
10:58:50AM 2019.
10:58:55AM >> OR JANUARY 24th.
10:58:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU ARE RIGHT.
10:58:58AM JANUARY 24th AT 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:59:04AM THAT'S MY MOTION, CHAIR.

10:59:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:59:07AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:59:08AM A SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:59:11AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:59:13AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:59:15AM OPPOSED?
10:59:16AM ALL RIGHT.
10:59:17AM MOTION CARRIED.
10:59:22AM LET ME BACK UP.
10:59:26AM I DIDN'T ASK ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC IF THEY WISHED TO SPEAK ON
10:59:29AM THIS.
10:59:33AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:59:34AM >> MY NAME IS -- McCANN AND I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND
10:59:41AM I'M IN THE AUDIENCE, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
10:59:47AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE BEEN DOWN A LOT
10:59:49AM OF THESE ROADS.
10:59:51AM WE SENT A LETTER, THE COMMITTEE HAS DISCUSSED THE SHALL YOU
10:59:57AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HOPEFULLY GET THE NOTICES VERSION OF
11:00:02AM WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:00:03AM AND IF THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE STUDY AND A WORKSHOP THIS
11:00:06AM IS WHAT THE STAFF NEEDS TO CONSIDER.
11:00:10AM WE SAID THE GUIDELINES WORK.
11:00:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: STOP THE CLOCK FOR A SECOND.
11:00:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS DISCUSSION WAS RELATIVE
11:00:17AM TO THE SPECIFICS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

11:00:21AM AND A MOTION WAS MADE AND PASSED TO CONTINUE IT.
11:00:27AM YOU DIDN'T TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:00:28AM I THINK THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC COMMENT WAS TO TALK TO THE
11:00:31AM CONTINUANCE.
11:00:34AM NOT TALKING TO THE MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING ISSUES OR
11:00:37AM GENERAL FENCING QUESTIONS.
11:00:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:00:39AM YOU HAVE TO COME BACK NOVEMBER 1st TO TALK ABOUT WHAT
11:00:42AM YOU ARE SHOWING HERE NOW.
11:00:43AM NOW, YOU CAN DISCUSS THE MOTION WE MADE ABOUT CONTINUING IT
11:00:46AM TO NOVEMBER 1st.
11:00:47AM >> OKAY.
11:00:49AM THANK YOU.
11:00:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO YOU AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE
11:00:58AM UNDERSTAND.
11:00:59AM MADAM CLERK, IF I AM WRONG.
11:01:00AM THIS PARTICULAR CASE INVOLVING 2723 NORTH MORGAN STREET HAS
11:01:04AM BEEN CONTINUED TO JANUARY 24, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
11:01:14AM THAT IS THE NOTICE THAT YOU NOW HAVE FOR THAT PARTICULAR
11:01:17AM PROPERTY, THAT PARTICULAR HEARING.
11:01:20AM >> YES.
11:01:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS JANUARY 24, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
11:01:24AM THE ISSUE WITH REGARD TO FENCES IN GENERAL IN TAMPA HEIGHTS
11:01:28AM SUBJECT TO COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN'S MOTION IS STILL BEING HELD
11:01:32AM PRESENTLY ON NOVEMBER 1st.

11:01:36AM AND DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO
11:01:39AM RAISE THIS ISSUE WITH COUNCIL IN GENERAL.
11:01:44AM >>HARRY COHEN: MAY I JUST SUGGEST, THOUGH, SINCE WE ARE
11:01:48AM GOING TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON NOVEMBER 1st, AND THIS
11:01:53AM LADY OBVIOUSLY HAS INFORMATION THAT'S PERTINENT TO THE
11:01:56AM CONSIDERATION OF STAFF, THAT THE ITEMS THAT SHE HAS WITH HER
11:02:01AM PERHAPS COULD BE GIVEN TO THEM.
11:02:03AM YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU THOUGHT THEY
11:02:06AM SHOULD BE CONSIDERING.
11:02:07AM I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THEY HAD YOUR INFORMATION PRIOR.
11:02:10AM >> THANK YOU.
11:02:12AM WE HAVE TRIED TO, THE COMMITTEE ON THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WE
11:02:15AM PARTICIPATED FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION,
11:02:18AM SUPPORT OF KEEPING THE GUIDELINES.
11:02:20AM WE FEEL LIKE NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS ON FIRST, AND WE ALSO
11:02:24AM FEEL THAT JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED.
11:02:27AM AND THAT WE DO WANT THE ISSUE FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OF
11:02:31AM WHY THIS MATTERS. THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS THE REAL DEAL.
11:02:35AM YOU HAVE LOST PART OF HYDE PARK AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT
11:02:39AM BECAUSE OF CHANGES.
11:02:40AM AND WE ARE GETTING HAMMERED TOO.
11:02:42AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE WITH STAFF.
11:02:44AM WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PARTICIPATE WITH STAFF, AND IT'S BEEN
11:02:48AM LIKE TALKING TO THE HAND.
11:02:49AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

11:02:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOPEFULLY STAFF WILL REACH OUT TO YOU THIS
11:02:52AM TIME.
11:02:55AM ALL RIGHT.
11:02:55AM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 50?
11:03:03AM ALL RIGHT.
11:03:05AM SEEING NONE WE GO TO ITEM 51.
11:03:09AM THAT'S WITHDRAWN?
11:03:20AM >>DAVID MECHANIK: 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
11:03:21AM I REPRESENTED THE APPLICANT IN CONNECTION WITH THE PETITION
11:03:24AM FOR REVIEW.
11:03:25AM I JUST WANTED COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY WE
11:03:29AM WITHDREW IT WAS THE STAFF REVISED ITS DETERMINATION THAT WE
11:03:34AM OBJECTED TO, AND SO THERE IS NO LONGER ANY REASON TO HAVE
11:03:37AM THIS APPEAL.
11:03:38AM I DIDN'T WANT COUNCIL TO THINK WE JUST ARBITRARILY WITHDREW
11:03:43AM THIS.
11:03:43AM AND WE THANK COUNCIL FOR ITS CONSIDERATION.
11:03:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MOVE TO WITHDRAW THE ITEM.
11:03:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:03:52AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:03:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:03:54AM OPPOSED?
11:03:54AM OKAY.
11:03:55AM WE GO TO ITEM 52.
11:03:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND I AM FILING A CONFLICT.

11:04:03AM I KNOW MY WORK AS AN ATTORNEY, AND I WISH TO AVOID ANY
11:04:09AM CONFLICT OF INTEREST, SOMEONE IN MY LAW FIRM MAY ENGAGE A
11:04:13AM CASE IN WHICH THE PETITIONER IS ADVERSE, AS A WITNESS.
11:04:16AM SO --
11:04:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU FILING THE FORM NOW WITH THE
11:04:20AM CLERK, MR. VIERA?
11:04:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM.
11:04:25AM >> JERROD SIMPSON.
11:04:29AM I'M HERE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:04:30AM I REPRESENT THE ARC.
11:04:32AM THIS ITEM IS ARC 18-219.
11:04:35AM IT'S BEFORE YOU UNDER THE 2761 REQUEST FOR REVIEW.
11:04:41AM THE ITEM WAS HEARD IN FRONT OF THE ARC ON JULY 9th.
11:04:44AM AND AT THAT TIME, THE ARC DENIED THE REQUEST.
11:04:49AM IT WAS A VARIANCE.
11:04:50AM THERE WERE THREE VARIANCES THAT WERE REQUESTED.
11:04:52AM THE ARC DENIED THOSE UNDER THE SECTION 27-114 SUB-D, AND THE
11:05:03AM STATED BASIS FOR THE DENIAL WAS, QUOTE, DUE TO THE FAILURE
11:05:07AM OF THE PETITIONER TO MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF WITH REGARD TO
11:05:09AM THE SIX HARDSHIP CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN 114-B OF THE CITY
11:05:17AM OF TAMPA CODES SPECIFICALLY THAT IT IS CONSIDERED A
11:05:19AM SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP AND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AN
11:05:22AM OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE A POOL ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT
11:05:25AM ENCROACHING ON THE REQUIRED SETBACK, THAT THERE'S NOTHING
11:05:28AM UNIQUE AND SINGULAR ABOUT THE LOT, AND THAT THERE WAS PRIOR

11:05:32AM KNOWLEDGE OF THE ZONING CODES THAT WERE IN PLACE PRAYER TO
11:05:34AM THE PURCHASE OF THE HOME.
11:05:36AM SO THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR THE DECISION THAT THE ARC MADE.
11:05:40AM THE PETITIONER HAS FILED A REQUEST FOR REVIEW FOR YOU TO
11:05:43AM REVIEW THAT DECISION UNDER THAT REVIEW, YOU MAY AFFIRM THE
11:05:47AM DECISION, YOU CAN AFFIRM IT WITH CONDITIONS, OR YOU CAN
11:05:52AM OVERRULE THE DECISION, OR YOU CAN REMAND IT BACK TO THE ARC
11:05:55AM AND HAVE THEM RECONSIDER IT AGAIN WITH SPECIFIC
11:05:59AM INSTRUCTIONS, WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
11:06:02AM THIS IS A DE NOVO HEARING AS WELL SO YOU CAN CONSIDER ANY
11:06:05AM EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
11:06:07AM YOU ARE NOT BOUND TO CONSIDER ONLY THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS
11:06:09AM PRESENTED BELOW.
11:06:10AM AT THIS TIME I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.
11:06:12AM THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND
11:06:16AM WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
11:06:17AM BUT THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST SO THEY DON'T TAKE A POSITION
11:06:21AM ON WHETHER THE CRITERIA IS MET, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON
11:06:25AM THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THAT CASE TO YOU.
11:06:27AM SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF NOW.
11:06:29AM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
11:06:32AM >> RON VILLA, STAFF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
11:06:39AM AS JERROD STATED THIS WAS A VARIANCE REQUEST.
11:06:42AM THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
11:06:44AM I WILL GO IT STRICTLY TO THE BOARD.

11:06:47AM STAFF DID NOT HAVE A POSITION ON THE VARIANCE, HARDSHIP
11:06:50AM CRITERIA IS REVIEWED AND IN THIS CASE THEIR HARDSHIP
11:06:54AM CRITERIA IN THE BOARD'S INTERPRETATION THAT IT WAS NOT MET.
11:06:59AM THE SITE PLAN, THERE WERE THREE VARIANCES THAT WERE
11:07:04AM REQUESTED AT THE TIME.
11:07:05AM BAYSHORE HAD TWO FRONTAGES.
11:07:09AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS HERE.
11:07:11AM AND THEN YOU HAVE WILLOW TO THE WEST.
11:07:15AM BAYSHORE TO THE SOUTH.
11:07:16AM BAYSHORE DOES HAVE A DOUBLE FRONT SO 25 FEET, AND THEN OH,
11:07:24AM THE SECOND FRONT WHICH IS ALSO 25 FEET.
11:07:27AM THERE'S A VARIANCE REQUEST THEY WERE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION
11:07:30AM FROM THE BAYSHORE FRONTAGE FROM 25 TO 14.
11:07:33AM AND THEN ON THE WILLOW FRONT YARD FROM 25-FOOT TO 4 FEET.
11:07:40AM AND THEN THE THIRD VARIANCE WAS TO THE -- WHICH THIS WOULD
11:07:45AM BE CONSIDERED ASIDE YARD FROM 7-FOOT TO 4-FOOT WHICH WAS
11:07:48AM ADVERTISED.
11:07:52AM THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA QUESTIONS, I DO HAVE COPIES OF IT IF
11:07:55AM YOU WANT ME TO PASS IT AROUND.
11:08:02AM AND I'M SURE MR. GRANDOFF WILL GET INTO THAT.
11:08:05AM JUST TO SUM UP.
11:08:09AM THE PUBLIC HEARING TOOK PLACE, THE INFORMATION WAS IN FRONT
11:08:14AM OF THE BOARD, AND THE BOARD AT THAT TIME FELT THAT THE
11:08:17AM HARDSHIP CRITERIA WAS NOT UNIQUE AND SINGULAR TO THIS PARCEL
11:08:22AM SO IT WAS DENIED.

11:08:23AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:08:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
11:08:26AM ALL RIGHT.
11:08:26AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF, ADDRESS SUITE
11:08:37AM 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
11:08:39AM I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING JEFF TEDDER THIS
11:08:41AM MORNING.
11:08:42AM JEFF IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
11:08:43AM JEFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND SO COUNCIL CAN
11:08:45AM RECOGNIZE YOU?
11:08:49AM IN MY PETITION FOR REVIEW, WHICH IS IN YOUR BACKUP, I'LL
11:08:54AM READ TO YOU WHAT MY JUSTIFICATION WAS.
11:08:56AM THE ARCHITECT REVIEW COMMISSION DID NOT CORRECTLY APPLY THE
11:08:59AM HARDSHIP CRITERIA, IN PARTICULAR BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS
11:09:02AM SUBJECT TO AN EXTRAORDINARY RULE REQUIRING TWO FRONT YARDS
11:09:07AM ON THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY.
11:09:09AM BAYSHORE AND WILLOW.
11:09:12AM 25 FEET.
11:09:15AM THEREFORE, THE REAR YARD IS IMMEDIATELY EAST ON THE
11:09:18AM PETITIONER'S PROPERTY WHICH WOULD PLACE A SWIMMING POOL IN
11:09:21AM PLAIN SIGHT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:09:23AM THIS IS A UNIQUE HARDSHIP AND THEREFORE MORE APPROPRIATE
11:09:26AM LOCATION FOR THE SWIMMING POOL IS ON THE FRONT YARD ON
11:09:30AM WILLOW AVENUE.
11:09:31AM HOWEVER, WE NEED A VARIANCE FOR THAT.

11:09:35AM A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
11:09:38AM THIS IS THE MORRISON GROVE SUBDIVISION, WHICH WAS PLATTED IN
11:09:42AM 1911.
11:09:43AM MORRISON GROVE WAS A CITRUS GROVE.
11:09:46AM AND THIS WAS PLATTED HERE BECAUSE YOU HAD A ROLLING TERRAIN
11:09:49AM DOWN TO THE BAY, AND THE WARM WATERS OF THE BAY -- MORRISON
11:10:01AM ROAD.
11:10:02AM I GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:10:03AM YOU WILL SEE THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAT PROVIDED THESE TWO LOTS,
11:10:06AM LOT 6 AND LOT 7, FACING BAYSHORE, 58 FEET, 67 FEET AT THE
11:10:13AM SIDE YARD.
11:10:14AM AT THAT TIME BEFORE ZONING ON WILLOW AVENUE.
11:10:20AM THE SANBORN MAP SHOWS THE PROPERTY HERE, MANY, MANY YEARS
11:10:27AM AGO, ONE HOME WITH THE VACANT LOT PLATTED TO THE EAST.
11:10:34AM YOU SEE IT'S FOLLOWING THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPER FACING
11:10:39AM BAYSHORE.
11:10:39AM AT IN A TIME DID ANYONE CONCEIVE THAT WILLOW AVENUE WOULD
11:10:42AM SOMEHOW BECOME SOME SECOND FRONT YARD.
11:10:46AM I HAVE TAKEN OF A REDUCTION OF JEFF'S SURVEY.
11:10:50AM BOTH OF THESE PLATTED LOTS UNDER ONE FOLIO NUMBER.
11:10:56AM THE SECOND LOT WAS VACANT.
11:10:59AM JEFF IS HOLDING THAT FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES FOR RETIREMENT.
11:11:02AM HE CAN CONVEY THAT LOT TODAY.
11:11:03AM HE CAN BUILD A HOME ON THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE IT MEASURES 68
11:11:07AM FEET AND THE ZONING IS RS-60.

11:11:11AM NOW, IN THIS ANALYSIS, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE ZONING
11:11:15AM CODE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE YARDS.
11:11:18AM SO YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH YOUR YARD.
11:11:22AM YOU COME INTO THE SUPER RULE THAT PUTS THE FRONT YARD ON
11:11:25AM BAYSHORE, THE FRONT YARD ON WILLOW.
11:11:28AM WHEN YOU HAVE TWO FRONT YARDS, YOU HAVE TO NOW CALCULATE THE
11:11:31AM REAR YARD.
11:11:33AM YOU TAKE THE LESSER OF THE TWO FRONT YARDS, WHICH IS ON
11:11:36AM WILLOW, 133 FEET, AND THE REAR YARD IS ALWAYS THE OPPOSITE
11:11:42AM YARD.
11:11:42AM SO BY ZONING CODE, THIS INVESTMENT PROPERTY IS VACANT
11:11:47AM PLATTED LOT FOR MORRISON ROAD, ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMES THE
11:11:52AM REAR YARD.
11:11:55AM AND A POOL COULD BE PLACED IN THE REAR YARD NOW AS A MATTER
11:11:59AM OF RIGHT.
11:12:00AM WELL, THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THE
11:12:03AM HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
11:12:07AM NEVER WAS IT CONCEIVED OF A SWIM POOL BEING PLACED RIGHT ON
11:12:11AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD WITH ALL OF THE ATTENDANT ACTIVITY OF THE
11:12:16AM SWIMMING POOL, AND WAS INTENDED TO BE A SINGLE LOT FACING
11:12:20AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:12:23AM IT'S DRIVEN BY THIS UNIQUE RULE WHICH TWO FRONT YARDS ON
11:12:28AM BAYSHORE, YOU MOST RECENTLY REVIEWED THIS RULE, TWO FRONT
11:12:34AM YARDS ON THAT PROPERTY, ONE ON BAYSHORE, ONE ON COACHMAN,
11:12:37AM AND THE COPELAND YARD WAS WAIVED.

11:12:40AM LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT JEFF'S HOME.
11:12:44AM THE YELLOW HERE IS THE OUTLINE OF THE HOME THAT WAS BUILT IN
11:12:48AM 1993 BEFORE THE SECOND FRONT YARD WAS CREATED ON BAYSHORE
11:12:52AM BOULEVARD.
11:12:54AM SO THE HOME CONFORMED AT THE TIME IN 1993 BUT BECAME LEGALLY
11:13:01AM NONCONFORM BY THE SECOND FRONT YARD, OKAY?
11:13:04AM BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, WILLOW WAS A SIDE YARD, 7 FEET WIDE.
11:13:12AM FAST FORWARD.
11:13:16AM JEFF TO WANTS TO BUILD THIS POOL, A LAP POOL IN THIS AREA,
11:13:21AM AND HE NEEDS A VARIANCE OF 25 FEET TO 14 FEET ON BAYSHORE,
11:13:27AM AND 25 FEET TO 4 FEET ON WILLOW.
11:13:32AM CONTINUING MY ANALYSIS, THE ALLEY BECOMES A SIDE YARD
11:13:40AM INSTEAD OF A PLATTED REAR YARD.
11:13:49AM SO THIS DOUBLE YARD CHANGES ITS GEOMETRY.
11:13:53AM THAT IS UNIQUE.
11:14:04AM HERE IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.
11:14:06AM JEFF WANTS TO PUT THE POOL RIGHT HERE.
11:14:08AM AND I WILL SHOW YOU -- -- HERE IS AN EXCELLENT PICTURE OF
11:14:23AM JEFF'S HOME.
11:14:23AM THE PAL IS SIMPLY GOING TO BE BEHIND THIS.
11:14:25AM WE BRING THE WALL DOWN.
11:14:27AM INSTALL THE POOL.
11:14:28AM REINSTALL THE WALL.
11:14:29AM YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THE POOL AT ALL.
11:14:35AM AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON SOUTH BOULEVARD AND BAYSHORE,

11:14:49AM WE HAD A PLATTED LOT HERE.
11:14:54AM AND THAT HOME, BEFORE -- I'M SORRY.
11:15:03AM HERE IS SOUTH BOULEVARD.
11:15:05AM BOULEVARD AND BAYSHORE.
11:15:06AM THERE'S A HOME THERE.
11:15:11AM BEFORE THE DOUBLE BAYSHORE YARD RULE WAS ENFORCED, THESE
11:15:14AM FOLKS BUILT A BEAUTIFUL POOL, LOOKING OUT ON BAYSHORE
11:15:19AM THERE'S A POOL HERE IN THE SIDE YARD ON SOUTH BOULEVARD.
11:15:22AM THERE'S ANOTHER -- I TOOK THESE PICTURES.
11:15:26AM VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:15:29AM IT'S AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO A HOME.
11:15:34AM THAT'S ALL JEFF WANTS TO DO.
11:15:40AM I HAD THE ENTIRE HARDSHIP CRITERIA RECITED IN THE BACKUP.
11:15:44AM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I WILL RESERVE THE REMAINDER OF MY
11:15:47AM COMMENTS FOR REBUTTAL.
11:15:48AM I THINK IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
11:15:51AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR VOTE THIS MORNING TO OVERRULE
11:15:56AM THE ARC'S DECISION AND APPROVE THE VARIANCE.
11:15:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:16:02AM YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE TWO FRONT YARD RULE.
11:16:06AM IS IT AN ORDINANCE OR A RULE? I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE THAT
11:16:09AM OUT.
11:16:09AM >> IT'S BURIED IN THE DEFINITION OF FRONT YARD.
11:16:14AM ZONING CODE OF 27-43 DEFINES FRONT YARD CITY-WIDE, AND THEN
11:16:19AM IT GOES, EXCEPT ON BAYSHORE, THERE SHALL BE TWO FRONT YARDS.

11:16:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT WAS BURR RIDS
11:16:27AM BECAUSE I HAD NOT HEARD THAT BEFORE EXPLAINED EXACTLY THAT
11:16:29AM WAY AND I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS, BECAUSE
11:16:31AM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE EVER DEALT WITH A TWO-FRONT-YARD ISSUE
11:16:35AM IN THE PAST.
11:16:36AM SO I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT.
11:16:37AM YOU KEPT CALLING IT A RULE.
11:16:39AM I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS AN ORDINANCE OR NOT.
11:16:41AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: WELL, IT'S ENFORCED AS A RECALL TO ME.
11:16:45AM IT'S NOT IN THE SCHEDULE -- EXCUSE ME, IT'S NOT IN THE
11:16:49AM SCHEDULE OF REGULATIONS.
11:16:53AM WHICH IS TABLE --
11:16:55AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BUT IT IS IN CHAPTER 27.
11:16:57AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: CHAPTER 27 AND HIGH PRESSURE PREFILING
11:17:00AM MEETING WITH CITY STAFF THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO ENFORCE
11:17:02AM THE DOUBLE FRONT YARD RULE ON BAYSHORE.
11:17:04AM I SAID FINE, THAT WILL BE OUR VARIANCE.
11:17:06AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING.
11:17:09AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: IF YOU WERE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY WITH
11:17:13AM THIS ALIGNMENT, WILLOW WOULD BE A SIDE YARD.
11:17:16AM THE VARIANCE WOULD BE 7 FEET TO 4 FEET.
11:17:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS HOUSE IS ON A DOUBLE LOT?
11:17:26AM IS IT THE HOUSE THAT HAS THAT SIDE YARD?
11:17:29AM ON THE NORTH SIDE?
11:17:31AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YES.

11:17:31AM MR. MANISCALCO, ACCORDING TO THE ZONING CODE, THIS IS ONE
11:17:38AM ZONING LOT, BECAUSE MR. TEDDER OWNS IT UNDER 1-B AND ONE
11:17:44AM FOLIO NUMBER.
11:17:45AM IT IS TWO PLATTED LOTS ACCORDING TO THE MORRISON PLAT.
11:17:53AM IT IS TWO BUILDABLE LOTS BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH BUILDABLE AND
11:17:57AM MEET THE RS-60 ZONING DISTRICT.
11:18:00AM SO.
11:18:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THAT LOT TO THE NORTH ON THE
11:18:05AM RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THIS PICTURE, IS THAT JUST AN EMPTY GREEN
11:18:08AM SPACE?
11:18:10AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YES, IT IS.
11:18:11AM >> WHY DON'T THEY PUT THE SWIMMING POOL THERE?
11:18:14AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: WELL TWO, REASONS.
11:18:17AM JEFF WANTS TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY AS A RETIREMENT FOR HIM.
11:18:23AM NUMBER TWO, HE COULD PUT THE POOL THERE AS A RIGHT BECAUSE
11:18:28AM THAT BECOMES THE REAR YARD, AND I DON'T THINK THESE
11:18:32AM NEIGHBORS WOULD BE PLEASED WITH THAT.
11:18:35AM AND I THINK IT WILL AFFECT BAYSHORE.
11:18:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE OTHER HOME YOU MENTIONED ON
11:18:44AM BOULEVARD AT BAYSHORE HAS A SWIMMING POOL THAT IS LIKE WHAT
11:18:47AM YOU ARE REQUESTING?
11:18:48AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YES.
11:18:48AM EXACTLY.
11:18:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IT IS AS YOU MENTIONED ALONG NARROW
11:18:53AM LAP POOL, NOT A STANDARD.

11:18:55AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: NO.
11:18:57AM MAYBE 5 FEET WIDE.
11:19:00AM JEFF WOULD SIMPLY STEP INTO IT FROM THE PATIO.
11:19:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:19:05AM OKAY.
11:19:05AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA, BECAUSE I
11:19:08AM HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM ON ROYAL PALM WAY, AND AZEELE IN BEACH
11:19:14AM PARK.
11:19:15AM THEY TELL ME I HAD THE TWOIANT YARDS AND I CANNOT PUT A
11:19:19AM FENCE HIGHER THAN FOUR FOOT.
11:19:20AM SO I HAD NO PRIVACY.
11:19:21AM SO WHAT I DID IS I PUT HEDGES THAT WERE EIGHT FOOT ALL
11:19:26AM AROUND THE YARD.
11:19:27AM BECAUSE HEDGES ARE NOT --
11:19:30AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: NOT REGULATED.
11:19:31AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOT REGULATED.
11:19:33AM SO I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA E.AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,
11:19:39AM FRONT YARDS ARE NOT USED IN THIS CITY BY PEOPLE.
11:19:44AM WE HAVE THESE SETBACKS, AND CHILDREN DON'T PLAY IN THEM.
11:19:48AM PEOPLE DON'T -- THOUGH USE THEM FOR FERTILIZER.
11:19:52AM SO IF A POOL GOES IN THERE, MORE USE OF THE FRONT YARD.
11:19:56AM AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
11:19:57AM SO IF THEY WANT TWO FRONT YARDS, I TEND TO UNDERSTAND.
11:20:06AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I WILL OFFER TO YOU ALSO, MRS. CAPIN, THAT
11:20:10AM JEFF WENT TO SEE HIS NEIGHBORS ABOUT THIS.

11:20:12AM NO ONE OBJECTED TO IT AT THE ARC HEARING.
11:20:15AM IN FACT, THEY WELCOMED HIM DOING IT, THOUGHT THAT'S A GREAT
11:20:19AM ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY.
11:20:20AM AND I WILL CLOSE WITH THAT.
11:20:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
11:20:24AM NOW YOU KNOW WRITE STAND.
11:20:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, I NEGLECTED TO DO THIS BUT MR.
11:20:28AM GRANDOFF, I DON'T BELIEVE I ASKED THE CLERK THE DVD --
11:20:33AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YES, I DO HAVE THAT.
11:20:34AM WOULD YOU LIKE THAT NOW?
11:20:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, PLEASE.
11:20:37AM MY APOLOGIES.
11:20:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:20:41AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?
11:20:44AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:20:45AM >> SECOND.
11:20:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:20:48AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:20:49AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:20:51AM OPPOSED?
11:20:55AM OKAY.
11:20:55AM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:20:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
11:20:59AM OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ARC AND APPROVE THIS BASED ON
11:21:03AM THE APPLICANT HAVING MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA FROM CHAPTER

11:21:08AM 27-114 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
11:21:14AM THE LOCATION IS APPROPRIATELY SUITED IN OTHER INSTANCES AS
11:21:18AM MENTIONED IN THE BOULEVARD AND BAYSHORE AND ALSO THIS POOL
11:21:23AM WOULD BE FACING THE STREET.
11:21:24AM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABUTTING TO ANOTHER NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY
11:21:27AM AND WHATNOT AND CREATING ANY OTHER ISSUES.
11:21:29AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
11:21:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:21:32AM MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:21:34AM SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:21:36AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:21:37AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:21:39AM OPPOSED?
11:21:40AM >> NAY.
11:21:41AM >> MOTION CARRIED WITH SUAREZ VOTING NO AND VIERA --
11:21:50AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
11:21:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:21:52AM INFORMATION REPORTS.
11:21:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, SIR.
11:21:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: NO.
11:22:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:22:03AM A MOTION THAT WE HAVE MRS. MELISSA DICKENS WITH THE PLANNING
11:22:07AM COMMISSION APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL AT OUR EVENING MEETING ON
11:22:11AM NOVEMBER 29th AT 5:30 P.M. TO MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION
11:22:15AM ON THE UPDATED CITY OF TAMPA CIT SCHEDULE PROJECT FOLLOWED

11:22:19AM BY THE ADOPTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL -- BY CITY COUNCIL
11:22:23AM ADOPTION OF THE UPDATE TO THAT ORDINANCE.
11:22:25AM >> SECOND.
11:22:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:22:27AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:22:29AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:22:30AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:22:31AM OPPOSED?
11:22:33AM [RUSTLING PAPERS]
11:22:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I HAVE A MOTION FOR A PLANNED
11:22:38AM AMENDMENT ADOPTION HEARING FOR TACPA-18-13 ON THE EVENING OF
11:22:43AM DECEMBER 13th AT 5:30 P.M.
11:22:45AM >> SECOND.
11:22:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:22:48AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:22:49AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:22:51AM OPPOSED?
11:22:52AM OKAY.
11:22:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIRD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
11:22:55AM HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MPO STAFF TO
11:22:59AM APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL AT OUR REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER
11:23:02AM 18th TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE LRTP 2045 PLAN OUTREACH
11:23:08AM EFFORTS.
11:23:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECOND, ANYONE?
11:23:12AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.

11:23:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:23:16AM SECOND BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:23:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:18AM OPPOSED?
11:23:18AM OKAY.
11:23:19AM >> THEN COMMENDATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENDATION
11:23:23AM TO JOSEPH CAPITANO AND OTHERS TO BE DETERMINED IN THE FUTURE
11:23:28AM IN CELEBRATION OF THE ITALIAN CLUB'S 100th ANNIVERSARY
11:23:31AM TO BE PRESENTED ON NOVEMBER 21, 2018.
11:23:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:23:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:40AM OPPOSED?
11:23:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION
11:23:44AM TO THE WINNINGEST HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:23:47AM HISTORY, COACH EARL GARCIA OF HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL TO BE
11:23:51AM PRESENTED ON NOVEMBER 15th.
11:23:52AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
11:23:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:24:02AM SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:24:03AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:24:05AM OPPOSED?
11:24:06AM OKAY.
11:24:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FINAL ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT
11:24:09AM A COMMENDATION TO MOFFITT CANCER CENTER FOR NOT ONLY TAMPA'S
11:24:14AM PREMIERE ONCOLOGICAL RESEARCH FACILITY BUT FOR HOSTING THE

11:24:19AM BUSINESS AND BIOTECH CONFERENCE FOR DECEMBER 6th.
11:24:23AM 2018.
11:24:23AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
11:24:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:24:30AM SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:24:31AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
11:24:38AM OKAY.
11:24:38AM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:24:39AM MRS. CAPIN.
11:24:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOTHING.
11:24:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A COUPLE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:24:43AM [OFF MICROPHONE] ONE IS THE TODAY'S WATERWISE AWARD FROM
11:24:52AM MELISSA TAYLOR TO NOVEMBER 8th.
11:24:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:25:02AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:25:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SECOND ONE WAS THE ITEM WE DISCUSSED
11:25:06AM TODAY ON BOTH ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PASSED ON FIRST READING,
11:25:10AM THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT COME BACK, GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE
11:25:13AM OF CHANGING WHATEVER LEGAL MECHANISM IS NECESSARY SO ONCE
11:25:18AM ITS STOPPED ON THE FIRST READING THAT IT DOES NOT APPEAR
11:25:20AM BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR SECOND READING, WHICH DOES NOT EXIST.
11:25:23AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
11:25:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:25:26AM SECOND BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:25:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:25:29AM OPPOSED?
11:25:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE
11:25:33AM MOTION.
11:25:34AM I AM NOT SURE, MAYBE WE CAN ASK IT NOW.
11:25:37AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT COME BACK
11:25:40AM CONCERNING THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUR AGENDA.
11:25:41AM I'M JUST --
11:25:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THE PROCESS HAS
11:25:46AM BEEN STANDARDIZED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, AND I JUST
11:25:50AM WANT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO CHECK WHAT WE ARE DOING.
11:25:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MIRANDA?
11:26:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT.
11:26:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL
11:26:05AM OCTOBER 9th, 2018 TO TAMPA'S HISPANIC BAR ASSOCIATION
11:26:08AM AND GEORGE EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION DOING AN EVENT AT THE
11:26:12AM MARTI MACEO CLUB IN YBOR CITY TO DISCUSS THE LEGACY AND
11:26:16AM HERITAGE OF AFRO CUBANS, FROM 11:30 TO 1:00 P.M. AND IF
11:26:19AM ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME.
11:26:20AM IT'S A VALUABLE PIECE OF TAMPA HISTORY.
11:26:24AM OCTOBER 9th.
11:26:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I YIELD TO MR. VIERA.
11:26:32AM I WANT TO REQUEST A COMMENDATION TO PRESENT TO THE FLORIDA
11:26:35AM FEDERATION OF ALPHA CHAPTERS OCTOBER 18 AT 9:00 A.M.
11:26:41AM >> SECOND.
11:26:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.

11:26:44AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:26:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:26:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:26:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:26:51AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:26:53AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:26:54AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:26:56AM OPPOSED?
11:26:57AM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME UNDER
11:27:01AM COMMENTS?
11:27:02AM SEEING NONE, WE STAND ADJOURNED.
11:27:06AM

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