TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2018
9:00 A.M. SESSION
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9:04:02AM
9:04:08AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:04:57AM IT IS MY DISTINCT PLEASURE TO WELCOME A FRIEND OF THIS
9:05:00AM COMMUNITY AND FRIEND OF MANY OF US FOR MANY YEARS, THE FIRST
9:05:05AM LATINA HOUSE MINORITY LEADER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
9:05:08AM REPRESENTATIVE JANET CRUZ WILL BE GIVING OUR INVOCATION
9:05:13AM TODAY.
9:05:13AM IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE
9:05:16AM OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:17AM THANK YOU.
9:05:18AM >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU, MEMBERS.
9:05:20AM GOOD MORNING, LORD.
9:05:23AM MOST PRAYERS IN THIS ROOM BEGIN WITH A REQUEST TO BOW YOUR
9:05:25AM HEADS.
9:05:26AM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU NOT TO BOW YOUR HEADS.
9:05:29AM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AROUND
9:05:32AM THE ROOM AT ALL OF THE MEN AND WOMEN HERE IN THIS MOMENT,
9:05:36AM SHARING TOGETHER THIS EXTRAORDINARY EXPERIENCE OF BEING HERE
9:05:41AM AND DEDICATING OURSELVES TO WORKING TOWARD IMPROVING THE
9:05:44AM LIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY.
9:05:47AM THIS IS A ROOM IN WHICH THERE ARE MANY CHALLENGING DEBATES,
9:05:51AM MANY MOMENTS OF TENSION, OF IDEOLOGICAL DIVISION, OF
9:05:55AM FRUSTRATION.
9:05:56AM BUT THIS IS ALSO A ROOM WHERE WE HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON
9:06:00AM THAN WE HAVE DIFFERENCES.
9:06:02AM WE SHARE THE SAME SPECTRUM OF POTENTIAL CARE FOR COMPASSION,
9:06:06AM FOR FEAR, FOR JOY, AND FOR LOVE.
9:06:10AM SCIENTISTS FAGAN ONCE WROTE FOR SMALL CREATURES SUCH AS WE,
9:06:15AM THE VASTNESS IS BEARABLE ONLY THROUGH LOVE.
9:06:20AM THERE IS IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS MUCH TO BEAR.
9:06:23AM IN THIS ROOM LET US CHERISH AND CELEBRATE OUR SHARED
9:06:26AM HUMANNESS AND SHARED CAPACITY FOR REASON AND COMPASSION.
9:06:30AM OUR SHARED LOVE FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY, FOR OUR
9:06:34AM CONSTITUTION, FOR OUR DEMOCRACY.
9:06:38AM AND LET US ROOT UP POLICY MAKING PROCESS IN THESE VALUES
9:06:42AM THAT ARE RELEVANT TO ALL TAMPANIANS.
9:06:45AM REGARDLESS OF COLOR, CREED, OR RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
9:06:50AM DEAR LORD, IN GRATITUDE AND IN LOVE, IN REASON AND IN
9:06:55AM COMPASSION, LET US WORK TOGETHER FOR A BETTER TAMPA.
9:06:59AM PLEASE BLESS THESE MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL.
9:07:04AM PLEASE BLESS THE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
9:07:08AM IN HIS NAME WE PRAY.
9:07:09AM AMEN.
9:07:10AM [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
9:07:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
9:07:38AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:07:39AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:07:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:41AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:07:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:07:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:07:47AM ALL RIGHT.
9:07:48AM WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
9:07:50AM THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS MR. MIRANDA.
9:07:56AM ARE YOU DOING IT?
9:07:57AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:08:03AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
9:08:05AM THANK YOU.
9:08:10AM IS MS. TAYLOR HERE?
9:08:12AM COME ON UP HERE.
9:08:14AM YOU ARE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.
9:08:17AM HELLO, MELISSA. I WANT TO PRESENT MELISSA TAYLOR.
9:08:21AM WE ARE GIVING A COMMENDATION IN RECOGNITION OF HER BEING THE
9:08:23AM WINNER OF THE 2018 COMMUNITY WATER-WISE LANDSCAPE AWARD
9:08:28AM THAT'S PRESENTED BY US.
9:08:30AM THIS ANNUAL COMPETITION WAS CREATED TO RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO
9:08:33AM HAVE COMMITTED PRESERVING OUR WATER RESOURCES AND PROTECTING
9:08:36AM THE ENVIRONMENT BY USING ATTRACTIVE FLORIDA-FRIENDLY
9:08:40AM LANDSCAPE.
9:08:41AM MS. TAYLOR'S BEAUTIFUL YARD SCORED THE HIGHEST IN THE
9:08:43AM RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WATER DEPARTMENT
9:08:46AM SERVICES.
9:08:47AM CITY OF TAMPA, CITY COUNCIL, CONGRATULATES YOU ON BEING
9:08:50AM SELECTED, AND THANKS FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO WATER
9:08:53AM CONSERVATION AND FOR DEMONSTRATING BY EXAMPLE THAT BEAUTIFUL
9:08:56AM YARDS ARE POSSIBLE UTILIZING THESE METHODS.
9:08:58AM AND OF COURSE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, RECENTLY THEY VOTED
9:09:07AM UNFORTUNATELY NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH AN IDEA THAT WE ARE
9:09:09AM DEALING WITH FOR RECLAIMED WATER, SO DOING THIS HELPS US
9:09:13AM UNTIL WE ARE AT THAT POINT WHERE WATER IS GOING TO BE PART
9:09:17AM OF OUR SYSTEM.
9:09:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:18AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:09:19AM AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE PLACE TO PUT IN YOUR GARDEN THIS
9:09:22AM INCREDIBLY HEAVY BUT BEAUTIFUL -- I CAN'T EVEN LIFT IT UP TO
9:09:27AM SHOW YOU GUYS BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THAT I WILL BREAK
9:09:29AM SOMETHING.
9:09:36AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:09:36AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:09:38AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:09:39AM >> THANK YOU, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:09:44AM THANK YOU, TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:09:45AM THANK YOU, CITY OF TAMPA WATER.
9:09:47AM AND THANK YOU TO THE EXTENSION OFFICE.
9:09:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
9:09:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:10:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE JUDGMENT BEFORE WE
9:10:09AM GET INTO THE COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:10:13AM WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 68, AND OUR CHIEF WILL
9:10:18AM COME GIVE HIS REPORT.
9:10:23AM SO WE WILL DO IT JUST BEFORE COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:10:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION.
9:10:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR A FEW MORE
9:10:33AM MINUTES.
9:10:54AM DO WE HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALPHA PHI FRATERNITY?
9:11:06AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:11:07AM IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE HERE WITH US TODAY, IT'S NOT OFTEN
9:11:14AM THAT YOU GET A MEMBER FROM ANOTHER FRATERNITY TO MAKE A
9:11:19AM RECOGNITION TO ONE OF MY FELLOW FRATERNITIES BUT I AM
9:11:24AM PLEASED TO DO THAT TODAY.
9:11:25AM FOR 50 YEARS THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL LIKE TO HONOR MEN OF
9:11:28AM ALPHA PHI FRATERNITY FOR OVER 50 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE
9:11:33AM TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:11:33AM SINCE 1952 FRATERNITY BROTHERS HAVE HELPED EMPOWER TAMPA
9:11:38AM AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY OUR YOUNG MEN AND
9:11:40AM WOMEN, TO GIVE HOPE TO HOPELESS PEOPLE.
9:11:46AM MY BROTHER KEEPERS AND PROGRAM HAS PROVIDED INVALUABLE
9:11:50AM SERVICES FOR DECADE.
9:11:53AM A HIGH LEVEL OF PERSONAL EXCELLENCE MEMBERS HAVE TAKEN IT
9:11:57AM UPON THEMSELVES TO MENTOR UNDERSERVED YOUTH AS MEN FOR
9:12:01AM TOMORROW PROGRAM AND MOTIVATE AT RISK YOUNG MEN FOR
9:12:09AM CITIZENRY.
9:12:09AM OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PRIVILEGED TO CALL OURSELVES HOME TO
9:12:13AM CHAPTER OF ALPHA PHI INCORPORATED, AND IT IS ORGANIZATIONS
9:12:18AM SUCH AS THIS ONE THAT MADE TAMPA AND OUR COUNTRY A BETTER
9:12:21AM PLACE TO LIVE.
9:12:22AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU ON THE
9:12:25AM 18th DAY OF OCTOBER OF 2018.
9:12:29AM AND ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:12:32AM WE CONGRATULATE YOU.
9:12:33AM WE HOPE THAT YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENT IN A FEW DAYS THAT
9:12:38AM YOU WILL BE DOING IT.
9:12:43AM AND I AM JUST HAPPY.
9:12:53AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:12:54AM DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
9:12:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:12:57AM ON BEHALF OF THE ALPHA CHAPTER, WE APPRECIATE THIS AWARD
9:13:04AM FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:13:10AM WE COME TO TAMPA THIS WEEKEND WITH ABOUT 400 TO 500 ALPHA
9:13:14AM MEN ACROSS THE STATE FOR OUR DISTRICT CONFERENCE AND WILL
9:13:16AM START THIS AFTERNOON WITH OUR EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING, THEN
9:13:18AM TOMORROW COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECT IN THE CITY AND THEN
9:13:21AM THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND WORK ON ACTIVITIES FOR THE
9:13:23AM BROTHERHOOD.
9:13:24AM SO WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE ALPHA IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:13:28AM ACROSS THE STATE AND WE ARE EXCITED DOING THE WORK AT THE
9:13:31AM LOCAL CHAPTER HERE IN TAMPA.
9:13:32AM THANK YOU.
9:13:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE, BUT I THINK
9:13:50AM HEIGHT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT CHAPTER OF ALPHA.
9:13:54AM (LAUGHTER).
9:13:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:14:03AM WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:14:15AM SUAREZ.
9:14:17AM >>HARRY COHEN: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR OOH
9:14:19AM APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:14:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:14:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:14:25AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:14:28AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:14:29AM OPPOSED?
9:14:30AM OKAY.
9:14:31AM ALL RIGHT.
9:14:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT
9:14:41AM AT THIS TIME.
9:14:41AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR CITIZENS SPEAKING ABOUT
9:14:44AM MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
9:14:46AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR A
9:14:48AM PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING
9:14:51AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:14:53AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:14:55AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDAED MATTERS.
9:14:58AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:15:01AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS
9:15:05AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:15:07AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
9:15:11AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:15:13AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:15:17AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:15:19AM THANK YOU.
9:15:19AM >> HI.
9:15:22AM I'M WORLDWIDE GLOBAL SOVEREIGN DESPOT JOHNNY BERNARD BOOTH,
9:15:28AM UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE 1-308.
9:15:32AM I AM THE ACTUAL IMMEDIATE TRUE LIVING AMERICAN WORLDWIDE
9:15:38AM GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, AND I AM HERE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU
9:15:41AM PRESIDENTS AND YOU DICTATORS, MONARCHS, ENGLAND, BRITAIN,
9:15:46AM CHINA, AND SAUDI ARABIA.
9:15:49AM YOU GUYS RUN A CORPORATION.
9:15:50AM YOU DO NOT RUN PEOPLE.
9:15:51AM YOU DO NOT RUN COMMUNITIES.
9:15:53AM YOU DO NOT RUN THE CITIZENS.
9:15:56AM YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR MARKETS AND
9:15:58AM THEIR BUSINESS TO WHERE YOU DON'T FORGET YOUR POSITIONS AND
9:16:02AM NOT OVERRUNNING THE PEOPLE.
9:16:04AM I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU SINCE 2013.
9:16:06AM IT'S ALWAYS WE THE PEOPLE THAT'S IN CHARGE FIRST.
9:16:12AM YOU SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING THE SEE SAW THING.
9:16:17AM YOU ARE EITHER WITH AMERICA OR YOU ARE NOT WITH US.
9:16:23AM PEOPLE CARRYING ON A FOREIGN AGENDA.
9:16:25AM THAT FOREIGN AGENDA WAS CARRIED ON FOR 2018 YEARS WHERE THE
9:16:29AM CANAANITES WILL COME AND KILL BECAUSE YOU KILLED ABLE.
9:16:32AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAME ON WITH THE CANAANITE AND
9:16:35AM AGREEMENT.
9:16:36AM THAT'S HOW YOU ENDED UP WITH YOUR WORKING CLASS, WITH YOUR
9:16:40AM DEBT CLASS.
9:16:40AM YOU DO NOT DECLARE WHAT YOU ARE BANKER WILL GIVE YOU AND
9:16:46AM WHAT YOU WILL GET.
9:16:46AM YOU GUYS HAVE OVERRAN YOUR POSITION, AND HAVE NOT FOLLOWED
9:16:51AM IN YOUR POSITION.
9:16:53AM CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN DEAD SINCE 1929.
9:16:55AM THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY REAL CURRENCY.
9:16:57AM I TOLD YOU, JANUARY, REAL CURRENCY WILL BE -- LEGAL TENDER
9:17:03AM IS COMMERCIAL PAPER.
9:17:04AM AND A SLAP OF IN MY AMERICA'S FACE.
9:17:07AM AND YOU CONTINUE TO TRAFFIC ILLEGAL CURRENCY.
9:17:12AM SAUDI ARABIA.
9:17:13AM DIDN'T I TELL YOU THAT QUIT DRILLING THE EARTH.
9:17:19AM YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL OIL.
9:17:21AM YOU CONTINUE TO DESTROY THE OZONE LATER AND CONTINUING TO
9:17:25AM DESTROY THE EARTH.
9:17:26AM THAT'S HOW YOU ARE DOING IT WITH YOUR SO-CALLED PRECIOUS
9:17:28AM OIL.
9:17:30AM AND IT'S ALL WICKED.
9:17:32AM IT'S NOT GOOD AT HELPING THE PEOPLE.
9:17:34AM BECAUSE GOD ALREADY PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE AND THEN YOU TOLD
9:17:36AM THEM THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE GOD IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM FOLLOW
9:17:39AM YOU.
9:17:39AM AND THEN THE GOD YOU ARE USING, WE DON'T FOLLOW GHOSTS.
9:17:44AM GIVE ORDERLY DIRECTIONS.
9:17:46AM YOU TOOK DIRECTIVES FROM THE PEOPLE SO THEY WOULD NOT
9:17:48AM UNDERSTAND OR COMPREHEND WHAT POWER THAT THEY REALLY HAVE.
9:17:51AM THAT IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE TAKEN BY ANYONE.
9:17:54AM YOU SAID THAT THEY VOLUNTARILY GAVE UPRIGHTS I.WANT TO SEE
9:17:58AM SIGNATURES COME JANUARY OF ALL OF THESE RIGHTS AND THINGS
9:18:02AM THAT WERE GIVEN UP.
9:18:03AM LOOK, NATIVES AND ABORIGINAL AND INDIGINOUS PEOPLE, WE ARE
9:18:09AM THE REAL KINGS AND QUEENS. AND WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
9:18:09AM NOR ARE WE GIVING UP OUR POSITIONS.
9:18:10AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:18:11AM CORPORATIONS, YOU WORK FOR US.
9:18:13AM NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
9:18:14AM WE PROVIDE MONEYS FOR YOUR TREASURY.
9:18:20AM AND BANK OF AMERICA NO LONGER BELONGS TO ANY OF THESE
9:18:24AM FOREIGN BODIES.
9:18:25AM WHAT YOU CALL INTERNATIONAL BANK SHARE TO LAUNDER CROOKED
9:18:28AM MONEY.
9:18:29AM AMERICA MAKES ITS OWN MONEY NOW AND RESERVES THAT RIGHT TO.
9:18:34AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:18:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:18:43AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:18:45AM THE REASON I'M HERE THIS MORNING IS BECAUSE I WANT TO BRING
9:18:47AM TO YOUR ATTENTION A HISTORICAL ACCOUNT OF SOMETHING THAT
9:18:53AM HAPPENS 52 YEARS AGO.
9:18:55AM INSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES, A YOUNG COURAGEOUS BODY OF
9:18:58AM YOUNG PEOPLE DECIDED THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS DECIDED THAT WE
9:19:03AM COULD SOLVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS.
9:19:05AM THE FORMATION OF THE BLOCK PANTHER PARTY CAME ABOUT IN
9:19:11AM OCTOBER 15th, 1962, AND WITH THAT BODY, UNDER THEIR
9:19:16AM LEADERSHIP, THE SOLVING OF THE ISSUES OF THE AFRICAN
9:19:20AM COMMUNITY BECAME THEIR NUMBER ONE.
9:19:23AM 62 PROGRAMS ADMINISTERED UNDER THE PANTHER PARTY THAT RANGE
9:19:28AM FROM FREE BREAKFAST PROGRAMS, HOUSING, MEDICAL SERVICE, AND
9:19:33AM ON AND ON.
9:19:35AM BUT YOUNG PEOPLE, IT WASN'T BEGGING AND ASKING ANYTHING.
9:19:42AM THAT'S THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE AMERICA SYSTEM.
9:19:46AM AND AS A RESULT OF THEIR LEADERSHIP, IF THEY WERE NOT ALL
9:19:50AM ASSASSINATED, MANY OF THEM DIED LATER IN PRISON.
9:19:53AM FAST FORWARD TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:19:55AM A TOTAL DISARRAY OF THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S WITH
9:20:00AM TAMPA WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA.
9:20:02AM THOSE AREAS, SITES THAT WERE HOMESTEADED FOR BLACK FOLKS
9:20:06AM HAVE BEEN DESTROYED, GUTTED OUT.
9:20:09AM AS WE LOOK AT WHAT'S REMAINING OF EAST TAMPA AGAIN, WE ARE
9:20:12AM TOLD THAT IT IS NOT OUR SELF-DETERMINATION THAT WILL MAKE A
9:20:17AM DECISION ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE, BUT OF THOSE THAT ARE
9:20:21AM PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT CLASS, THE UPPER CLASS CAN MAKE A
9:20:24AM DECISION OF HOW EAST TAMPA WOULD LOOK AS WELL AS WEST TAMPA
9:20:27AM WILL LOOK.
9:20:30AM NOW, NO, WE STILL HAVE THAT BODY INSIDE OF GOVERNMENT THAT
9:20:37AM WOULD DARE ANY BLACK PERSON THAT WOULD COME BEFORE A BODY
9:20:40AM AND SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED.
9:20:43AM AND WHICH WAYS DO THEY RETALIATE?
9:20:46AM MASS ARRESTS.
9:20:47AM WE GOT HORRENDOUS PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH NOTHING
9:20:51AM MORE OR LESS THAN YOUNG PEOPLE BEING KNOWING THAT THEY IF
9:20:56AM THEY ARE NOT FLUENT IN EDUCATION.
9:20:59AM A PRISON IS BEING BUILT FOR THEM.
9:21:01AM MONEY IS BEING SPREAD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:21:04AM NEW HOMES ARE BEING BUILT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:21:06AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU, TELL ME HOW MANY EMPLOYERS -- EMPLOYEES
9:21:12AM LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
9:21:13AM ALL THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING UNDER THIS BODY.
9:21:16AM NOT NO 52 YEARS AGO.
9:21:18AM RIGHT NOW.
9:21:19AM YOU ARE WITNESSING.
9:21:20AM YOU ARE PART OF THAT LEGACY THAT IS SAYING THAT AFRICAN
9:21:24AM PEOPLE ADOPT HAVE A RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION, THAT MASS
9:21:27AM INCARCERATION WHETHER WE WALK, BIKING BLACK, IT IS PART OF
9:21:34AM THAT PROCESS AND YOU, YOU, UNLESS YOU GET ON THE RIGHT SIDE
9:21:37AM OF HISTORY, YOU WILL BE PART OF THAT LEGACY.
9:21:40AM THANK YOU.
9:21:40AM >> ANTHONY DANIEL, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:21:50AM INSIDE THIS BUDGET, THE FIRST TEN ITEMS, ABOUT $5.5 MILLION
9:21:56AM TAXPAYERS MONEY.
9:21:57AM AND IT'S ALL STUPIDITY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
9:22:01AM $5.5 MILLION AND NOTHING FOR THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
9:22:06AM NOBODY CALLS FOR THE 26%.
9:22:08AM 26% OF THIS POPULATION AND WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING CLOSE TO
9:22:11AM 26% OF THE POPULATION.
9:22:13AM 26% OF THE POPULATION, AND WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING CLOSE TO
9:22:17AM 26% OF THE BUDGET COMING TO US.
9:22:19AM NOTHING.
9:22:20AM SO WHAT DO WE HAVE?
9:22:21AM WE HAVE STUPIDITY GOING ON IN CITY COUNCIL.
9:22:25AM WE HAVE A STUPID MAYOR DOWNSTAIRS WE CALL AFRICAN WOMEN
9:22:29AM BITCHES, THAT CALL FOR THE LYNCHING OF AFRICAN MAN BEFORE
9:22:34AM HE'S EACH PUT ON TRIAL, CALLS FOR THE LYNCHING OF THE MAN
9:22:38AM AND WE HAVE HAD A STUPID POLICE CHIEF STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO
9:22:40AM HIM THAT WAS LETTING THE MAYOR RUN HIS JOB AND DOING STUPID
9:22:44AM THINGS, AND THE POLICE CHIEF IS SO STUPID THAT MY WIFE WHO
9:22:49AM IS STANDING OUTSIDE WAS ATTACKED ON CAMERA AND VICIOUSLY
9:22:52AM BEATEN.
9:22:53AM VICIOUSLY BEATEN AND SHE WAS A 911.
9:22:56AM AND THE POLICE CHIEF HERE, BRIAN DUGAN, DID ABSOLUTELY
9:23:00AM POSITIVELY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
9:23:02AM OTHER THAN TRY TO CONSPIRE.
9:23:06AM SINCE BEEN IN THIS GAME BUT NEVER SPEAK ANYTHING FOR MYSELF.
9:23:12AM I ALWAYS SPEAK IN THE INTEREST OF AFRICA AND THE AFRICAN
9:23:17AM COMMUNITY AND ONLY SPEAK IN THE INTEREST OF AFRICA AND THE
9:23:20AM AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
9:23:21AM AND THIS MORNING I AM SPEAKING IN THE INTEREST OF MY WIFE
9:23:23AM AND IN FRONT OF THIS BRIAN DUGAN HOP SEE MY WIFE GET
9:23:29AM ATTACKED ON CAMERA AND ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO CHARGES
9:23:31AM FILED AGAINST THEM.
9:23:33AM NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS.
9:23:34AM THE MAN IS HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK ABOUT BICYCLE STOPS.
9:23:37AM THIS PROPORTION OF BICYCLE STOPS INSIDE THE AFRICAN
9:23:41AM COMMUNITY.
9:23:41AM THIS PROPORTIONATE BICYCLE STOPS, THEY STOP NEGROES ON
9:23:45AM BICYCLES.
9:23:46AM THAT TELLS YOU WHAT CONNIE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
9:23:53AM AFTER THEY TOOK AWAY ALL THE CARS, NOW THE AFRICANS WITH
9:23:57AM BICYCLES.
9:23:57AM THAT TELLS US THE POVERTY INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND NOTHING
9:24:02AM IS CHANGED AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY COUNCIL OPERATES.
9:24:04AM NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
9:24:05AM NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON BAYSHORE.
9:24:08AM IT STILL FLOODS EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
9:24:10AM NOTHING CHANGES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:24:12AM NOTHING CHANGES ON HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
9:24:14AM NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN DREW PARK.
9:24:17AM HALF INCH OF RAIN AND STREETS FLOOD.
9:24:18AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:24:23AM THAT HAS TO CHANGE.
9:24:24AM OBAMA SAYS TIME FOR CHANGE AND HE DID EIGHT YEARS AND WE
9:24:27AM SEEN NO CHANGE.
9:24:28AM IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE.
9:24:29AM AND THE STUPIDITY HAS TO STOP.
9:24:31AM THE IGNORANCE HAS TO STOP.
9:24:36AM WHEN I BROUGHT MY KID RIGHT HERE AND I TOLD HIM, WHAT'S THE
9:24:39AM MOST IMPORTANT THING I TEACH YOU IS TO BE GOOD.
9:24:42AM DUGAN DOESN'T WANT TO TEACH YOU TO BE GOOD AND DO THE RIGHT
9:24:45AM THING.
9:24:46AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:24:47AM >> I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO TOP THAT AND I AM NOT GOING TO
9:24:59AM TALK ABOUT BICYCLE TICKETS EITHER.
9:25:00AM MY NAME IS YBOR ROB, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
9:25:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CAMAIS? MY APOLOGIES FOR
9:25:10AM MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME.
9:25:10AM YOU SAID THAT -- IT'S YOUR DESIRE TO BE REFERRED TO AS YBOR
9:25:16AM ROB, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:25:17AM >> YES.
9:25:17AM I LIKE TO BE REFERRED TO AS YBOR ROB. THAT'S WHAT I GO BY.
9:25:20AM I'M ALLOWED TO DO THAT UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE
9:25:22AM CONSTITUTION.
9:25:24AM UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW I'M ALLOWED TO GATHER IN A CITY
9:25:27AM MEETING AND SPEAK, AND SAY WHAT I FEEL MY NAME IS, WITHOUT
9:25:31AM DISCRIMINATION.
9:25:32AM SO ANY FURTHER CONTINUATION OF THIS IS GOING FURTHER, WHICH
9:25:36AM ACTUALLY I HAVE ALREADY -- I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT.
9:25:39AM WASTING MY TIME.
9:25:40AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT POLICE BRUTALITY, PROFILING, RACIAL
9:25:45AM PROFILING, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN
9:25:48AM YBOR CITY SINCE 1885, THE GARCIA FAMILY.
9:25:51AM OKAY?
9:25:52AM SO I HAVE LIVED IN VM YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD MY WHOLE LIFE, 38
9:25:56AM YEARS, AND MY FAMILY HAS BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.
9:25:58AM THEY USED TO OWN -- I DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THAT.
9:26:02AM WHAT I NEED TO GET INTO IS WE GET PULLED OVER ON BICYCLES OR
9:26:08AM CARS AND WE ARE NOT SAID OUR RIGHTS, WE ARE TOLD OUR FIFTH
9:26:10AM AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO REMAIN SILENT AFTER THE FACT.
9:26:13AM THAT IS NOT A RIGHT THAT IS GIVEN BY POLICE.
9:26:16AM THAT IS A RIGHT THAT IS GIVEN TO US UNDER THE UNITED STATES
9:26:18AM CONSTITUTION, OKAY?
9:26:21AM THERE'S MANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT THEY VIOLATE, SEARCH AND
9:26:24AM SEIZURE, OTHER SUCH THINGS, AND I AM NOT GOING TO BLAME
9:26:27AM PEOPLE, BUT I AM GOING TO BLAME THE EDUCATION OF OFFICERS.
9:26:30AM I FEEL WE ARE PUSHING OFFICERS OUT THERE SO QUICK THAT WE
9:26:33AM ARE NOT TRAINING THEM TO GO IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY
9:26:36AM HAVE NEVER BEEN IN AND REALIZE, HEY, WE MIGHT HANG OUTSIDE
9:26:40AM AND HAVE A BARBECUE.
9:26:42AM THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE GATHERING IN PUBLIC WHICH WE ARE
9:26:44AM ALLOWED TO DO.
9:26:46AM STOP PULLING US OVER.
9:26:47AM STOP SAYING, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
9:26:49AM GUESS WHAT.
9:26:50AM UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE LAW, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU
9:26:52AM WHERE I AM GOING.
9:26:53AM I'M ALLOWED TO SAY, AM I BEING DETAINED FOR A CRIME?
9:26:57AM AT THAT POINT THEY HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU ARE
9:26:59AM BEING DETAINED FOR A CRIME OR NOT.
9:27:01AM NO, YOU ARE NOT.
9:27:02AM NO.
9:27:03AM THEN GUESS WHAT.
9:27:03AM I'M RECORDING YOU. I'M WALKING AWAY.
9:27:06AM AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO FILM
9:27:09AM POLICE AND USE IT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY PURPOSES.
9:27:11AM DON'T BE RUDE ABOUT IT AND CALL THEM PG AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
9:27:19AM IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS. BECAUSE I HAVE DONE
9:27:21AM THIS. I HAVE FILMED THE MAN GETTING TASED IN THE BACK WITH
9:27:25AM HIS HANDS UP, BAKER ACTED, GET ON THE GROUND.
9:27:28AM HE PUT HIS HANDS ON HIS HEAD AND STARTED WALKING BACKWARDS
9:27:31AM FROM THAT OFFICER.
9:27:33AM TASE HIM IN THE BACK.
9:27:34AM DROP HIM TO THE CEMENT.
9:27:36AM ON THE STREET.
9:27:36AM BUSTED HIS HEAD OPEN. NEEDS TO BE BAKER ACTED.
9:27:39AM COME ON, WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
9:27:41AM AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO SAY I WAS HIT BY A CAR WHEN I WAS 25
9:27:44AM YEARS OLD, AND THAT I SUFFER FROM BIPOLAR, BUT IT'S NOT.
9:27:49AM IT'S A BRAIN INJURY, OKAY, TO MY BEHAVIORAL FRONTAL LOBE.
9:27:53AM AND THEY ARE NOT TRAINED WITH INTERACTING ON PEOPLE LIKE
9:27:56AM THAT.
9:27:56AM THEY ARE, OH, THEY ARE AGITATING, GUNS, TASERS.
9:28:01AM WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
9:28:02AM THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
9:28:04AM AND THAT WILL CARRY INTO BICYCLES, CARS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
9:28:07AM SO I'M YBOR ROB ON YOUTUBE.
9:28:08AM CHECK ME OUT.
9:28:09AM I MEAN NO HARM, FRANK REDDICK.
9:28:12AM YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
9:28:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:28:17AM ALL RIGHT.
9:28:22AM ANY REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION?
9:28:29AM SEEING NONE, AT THIS TIME, CHIEF.
9:28:32AM >> BRIAN DUGAN, CHIEF OF POLICE.
9:28:43AM AS YOU ARE AWARE, I WAS HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
9:28:46AM YOU REQUESTED THAT I COME BACK AND GIVE SOME FOLLOW-UP
9:28:49AM INFORMATION.
9:28:51AM YOU HAVE RECEIVED THAT.
9:28:52AM AND HOPEFULLY I DIRECT YOUR CONCERNS, AND I AM HERE THIS
9:28:58AM MORNING FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION TO SEE HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD.
9:29:02AM THIS IS ALL IN REFERENCE TO THE 2015 ARTICLE ON THE BIKE
9:29:09AM STOP ISSUES.
9:29:11AM AND I MUST BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS MORNING WE SENT
9:29:15AM ANOTHER, AN ADDITIONAL ELEVEN OFFICERS TO MEXICO BEACH.
9:29:19AM THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN LEVELED.
9:29:22AM THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE LEFT IS LITERALLY THE SIGN THAT
9:29:25AM SAYS POLICE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:29:28AM SO I THINK THAT SHOULD HELP GIVE US SOME PERSPECTIVE.
9:29:31AM SO I COME TO THE BICYCLE STOPS.
9:29:34AM I HAVE WITH ME FOR THE 2018 YEAR TO DATE FROM JANUARY
9:29:38AM 1st TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
9:29:40AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED SINCE THEN 175,000
9:29:44AM DISPATCHED CALLS, AND WE HAVE INITIATED 217,000.
9:29:48AM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT TOTALS UP TO 392,000 CONTACTS
9:29:53AM WITH OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOCUMENTED.
9:29:55AM NOT TO MENTION THE MILLIONS OF CONTACT THAT WE HAVE WITH
9:29:58AM PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S SAYING HELLO, GIVING THEM DIRECTIONS OR
9:30:02AM WHATEVER.
9:30:02AM THE BIKE STOPS HAVE ACCUMULATED WITH THOSE AMOUNT OF
9:30:06AM CONTACTS WITH OUR CITIZENS ARE LESS THAN 1%.
9:30:10AM IT'S ACTUALLY .8% OF WHAT WE DO, DOCUMENTED CONTACT WITH
9:30:14AM CITIZENS.
9:30:15AM BUT I THINK THAT'S A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
9:30:17AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER, IT SHOWS THE GREEN
9:30:28AM DOTS THAT SHOWS WHERE THE BICYCLE STOPS ARE, WHERE THEY
9:30:32AM HAPPENED SO FAR FOR 2018 THIS YEAR.
9:30:35AM IF YOU LAY OVER THE AMOUNT OF CRIME, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE
9:30:41AM MAJORITY OF THE BICYCLE STOPS WHERE THOSE GRIDS ARE, WHEN
9:30:46AM YOU LOOK AT A GRID THAT IS READ ABOUT 323 OR MORE OF WHAT WE
9:30:50AM CALL OUR FIVE OFFENSES WHICH IS ROBBERY, BURGLARY, AUTO
9:30:56AM BURGLARY, AUTO THEFT, AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
9:31:00AM THE REASON WE JUST FOCUS ON THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS IS
9:31:04AM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN AGGRAVATED
9:31:07AM ASSAULT WITH A FIREARM AND A MURDER IS WHETHER SOMEBODY --
9:31:10AM WHETHER THEY END UP DYING.
9:31:12AM SO WE REALLY TRACK THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.
9:31:15AM THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS.
9:31:17AM YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CONCENTRATION OF OUR STOPS IS WHERE
9:31:20AM THE MAJORITY OF THE CRIME IS.
9:31:23AM NOW HERE IS MORE INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED, THE
9:31:30AM DOCUMENTATION OF OUR BIKE STOPS AND THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS
9:31:34AM THAT ACTUALLY ISSUED FROM BIKE STOPS.
9:31:37AM AND YOU WERE GIVEN SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT GIVES THE
9:31:40AM TOTAL NUMBER OF CITATIONS.
9:31:43AM WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE ACTUAL BIKE STOPS.
9:31:46AM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS AND THE NUMBER
9:31:48AM OF STOPS, AND SO FAR FOR THIS YEAR WE HAVE ISSUED 33 BICYCLE
9:31:57AM CITATIONS FROM THE ACTUAL CONTACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH PEOPLE.
9:32:00AM AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL WARNINGS, WE HAVE OVER
9:32:04AM 2300 WARNINGS.
9:32:06AM WE HAVE ISSUED 33 CITATIONS.
9:32:08AM AND THAT'S JUST ON THE BIKE STOPS THEMSELVES.
9:32:11AM NOW, THAT'S FOR CURRENT YEAR.
9:32:14AM THIS INFORMATION HERE THAT YOU HAVE IS FOR 2017.
9:32:19AM BECAUSE THE FULL PICTURE.
9:32:22AM IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY FOR THE CURRENT YEAR IT'S A BIT OF A
9:32:25AM MOVING TARGET TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION.
9:32:27AM THE MAJORITY OF THE STOPS AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A SAMPLE
9:32:31AM OF 2017.
9:32:33AM THE MAJORITY OF STOPS ARE FOR NO BIKE LIGHTS.
9:32:36AM THE MAJORITY OF STOPS OBVIOUSLY ARE AT NIGHT.
9:32:39AM THE BIKES GO THROUGH STOP SIGNS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ISSUE.
9:32:45AM IT'S A VARIETY OF REASONS FOR THE STOPS.
9:32:47AM AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITATION DATA FOR 2018, IT
9:32:55AM GIVES YOU MORE OF A BREAKDOWN ON WHAT THEY ARE FOR AND WHAT
9:32:58AM THE DISPARITIES ARE.
9:33:06AM QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
9:33:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
9:33:10AM COUNCIL?
9:33:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I COMMENT CHIEF DUGAN, THANKS FOR
9:33:15AM COMING OVER HERE AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
9:33:17AM GO BACK TO THE 2018 CITY-WIDE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAD.
9:33:20AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBERS HERE BECAUSE I
9:33:23AM SAW A MISTAKE EITHER ON MINE OR YOURS.
9:33:27AM NOT THAT ONE, THE DATA.
9:33:32AM YES, THERE YOU GO.
9:33:34AM I'M CHECKING ON SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS
9:33:37AM A CHANGE HERE.
9:33:39AM I'M LOOKING AT A SHEET THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME A COUPLE OF DAYS
9:33:43AM AGO WHEN WE MET PRIVATELY.
9:33:44AM THESE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF.
9:33:46AM MY NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF COMPARED TO WHAT YOU HAVE
9:33:48AM HERE.
9:33:49AM DID YOU GUYS MAKE A CHANGE IN SOME WAY?
9:33:52AM >> I'M GUESSING YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL STATUTE SHEET.
9:33:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME GRAPH BUT IT HAS
9:33:59AM DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
9:34:00AM THAT'S WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT.
9:34:03AM IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE MORE STOPS ON YOURS TOTAL, NUMBER OF
9:34:08AM CITATIONS AND OTHER INTERACTIONS.
9:34:10AM AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THE RIGHT NUMBERS HERE
9:34:13AM BECAUSE IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ESPECIALLY ON THE
9:34:15AM BICYCLE REGISTRATION SIDE.
9:34:18AM MINE SAYS 573. YOURS SAYS 682.
9:34:21AM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS 2018.
9:34:24AM OKAY.
9:34:28AM IT MUST HAVE BEEN CHANGED, CHIEF, YOUR SHEET?
9:34:31AM >> THEY ARE UPDATED NUMBERS.
9:34:32AM I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY ARE THAT DIFFERENT, THOUGH.
9:34:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE A
9:34:37AM LITTLE DIFFERENT SHEET HERE. ANYWAY, LET ME GET TO WHAT I
9:34:40AM WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.
9:34:43AM YOU HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS LISTED ON HERE.
9:34:45AM BICYCLE COUNTER, BICYCLE LIGHT ISSUE, REGISTRATION AND SO
9:34:50AM ON.
9:34:50AM WHAT'S A CONSENSUAL ENCOUNTER?
9:34:52AM >> A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST COME IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE, AND
9:34:57AM THEY MAY ASK US TO REGISTER THEIR BIKE.
9:35:02AM WE WILL -- WE MAY STOP SOMEONE AND ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, THE
9:35:08AM DESCRIPTION OF A SUSPECT OR WHATEVER, AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WE
9:35:13AM TEND -- IF IT TURNS INTO A MISUNDERSTANDING, WE SEND THEM ON
9:35:17AM THEIR WAY, DON'T DETAIN THEM OR GATHER ANY MORE INFORMATION
9:35:21AM AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY STOPPING SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT HAVE A
9:35:24AM BIKE LIGHT OR WHO MAY BE VIOLATING THE TRAFFIC LAWS AND
9:35:27AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:35:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
9:35:29AM AND I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW,
9:35:31AM CONSENSUAL ENCOUNTER COULD BE WALKING DOWN THE STREET OR
9:35:35AM RIDING DOWN THE STREET, AND POLICE OFFICER ENGAGES WITH
9:35:38AM THEM.
9:35:38AM IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
9:35:40AM >> CORRECT.
9:35:41AM THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE AS YOU KNOW BETWEEN A CONSENSUAL
9:35:44AM COUNTER AND SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU.
9:35:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT BIKE REGISTRATION.
9:35:49AM WHAT IS THAT?
9:35:50AM BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL STATE LAW ON REGISTRATION, IS IT?
9:35:55AM >> WHAT WE TRY TO DO, AND WE PUSHED THESE MORE AND MORE
9:36:00AM SINCE THE WHOLE ISSUE CAME TO LIGHT, IF YOU PURCHASE A
9:36:03AM BICYCLE, OR WE DO WHAT WE CALL BIKE RODEOS WHERE WE GO OUT
9:36:07AM WITH KID, WE WORK WITH PRIVATE DONORS, AND WE GIVE BIKES
9:36:10AM AWAY TO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG KID.
9:36:13AM WE GIVE THEM BICYCLE HELMETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:36:16AM AND WHAT WE WILL DO IS TAKE THAT BICYCLE AND REGISTER IT IN
9:36:18AM THEIR NAME.
9:36:19AM SO IF YOU WERE TO COME AND WE GIVE YOU A BIKE OR YOU COME TO
9:36:22AM US AND PURCHASE THE BIKE AND WANT TO REGISTER WITH YOU, THAT
9:36:25AM WAY, WE NOW KNOW WHEN WE COME ACROSS THAT BIKE IN THE MIDDLE
9:36:29AM OF THE NIGHT ON SERIAL NUMBERS IT BELONGS TO MIKE SUAREZ,
9:36:32AM AND THE PERSON RIDING THE BIKE ISN'T MIKE SUAREZ.
9:36:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
9:36:36AM BUT THOSE ARE ONLY ON BICYCLES THAT WE GIVE AWAY?
9:36:39AM >> IF WE STOP SOMEBODY, WE WILL REGISTER THEIR BIKE FOR
9:36:43AM THEM.
9:36:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
9:36:44AM I'M WONDERING WHY THAT IS.
9:36:45AM YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A KID I USED TO RIDE BIKES ALL THE TIME
9:36:49AM SO YOU PROBABLY WON'T FIND SOMEBODY RIDING MY BIKE, I HOPE
9:36:52AM NOT, BECAUSE MY BIKE IS GOING TO BE PRETTY DANG OLD.
9:36:55AM BUT WHY IS THAT AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PARTICULAR
9:37:00AM PROCESS?
9:37:00AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REGISTRATION PORTION OF IT.
9:37:03AM >> TO PREVENT THEFT, THAT IF WE FIND YOUR BIKE, IF YOU
9:37:07AM REPORT YOUR BIKE STOLEN.
9:37:10AM THE PROBLEM IS WE RUN INTO, AND I AM JUST AS GUILTY OF IT, A
9:37:13AM LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T KNOW THE SERIAL NUMBER OF A VARIETY OF
9:37:16AM THINGS UNTIL IT'S MISSING.
9:37:18AM AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN REALLY -- THE ONLY WAY WE CAN
9:37:22AM IDENTIFY THAT IT'S YOUR BIKE, BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL
9:37:24AM BIKES OF THE SAME MODEL AND LOOK THE SAME.
9:37:27AM IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED THE SERIAL NUMBER WE REALLY CAN'T
9:37:30AM PROVE THAT IT'S YOUR BIKE UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME OTHER TYPE OF
9:37:33AM MARKINGS ON IT.
9:37:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I GUESS MY POINT IS, UNLIKE A VEHICLE WHERE
9:37:38AM YOU HAVE A REGISTRATION THAT'S UNDER YOUR NAME, WHY WOULD
9:37:41AM ANYBODY WHO OWNS A BIKE BE INTERESTED IN REGISTER A BIKE,
9:37:47AM JUST THEIR BIKE?
9:37:50AM >> WELL, YOU HAVE A $2,000 ROAD BIKE, YOU ARE GOING TO WANT
9:37:53AM IT REGISTERED.
9:37:54AM SO WHEN IT GETS STOLEN, YOU GET IT BACK.
9:37:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I GET THAT.
9:37:58AM I AM JUST SAYING IT'S A STRANGE KIND OF THING FOR ME, OKAY.
9:38:02AM AND I AM NOT SAYING STRANGE PARTICULARLY.
9:38:04AM I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE BIKE REGISTRATION
9:38:07AM PORTION OF IT.
9:38:07AM IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN INTERACTION IN ORDER TO FIND OUT IF
9:38:10AM THE BIKE IS STOLEN AS OPPOSED TO JUST FOR A PROCESS IN WHICH
9:38:15AM YOU ARE STOPPING SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOU ARE SUSPICIOUS THAT
9:38:18AM IT'S STOLEN.
9:38:19AM I'M NOT SURE.
9:38:20AM YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE INTERACTION
9:38:24AM LEADS TO AND IMPACT THE MEANING OF IT.
9:38:26AM AND AGAIN, THAT WHICH HAS BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S
9:38:29AM ALWAYS BOTHERED ME ABOUT THE BIKE STOPS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW,
9:38:32AM THE ABSOLUTE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ON
9:38:35AM YOUR BIKE AS LONG AS YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW, OKAY?
9:38:38AM AGAIN, A REGISTRATION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED.
9:38:40AM SO IN ORDER TO ASK SOMEONE OR TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO
9:38:44AM REGISTER YOUR BIKE UNDER YOUR NAME, SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MORE
9:38:48AM ENCROACHING ON SOMEONE'S FREEDOM.
9:38:50AM THAT'S THE ONLY THING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT HAS ALWAYS
9:38:53AM BOTHERED ME.
9:38:54AM I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT.
9:38:55AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON BEHIND IT IS.
9:38:57AM I'M NOT SURE WHY WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
9:38:59AM TO ME THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
9:39:01AM NOW THAT'S JUST ME.
9:39:02AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME OTHER STATISTIC OR SOMETHING
9:39:05AM YOU KNOW OF AS TO THE REASON WHY WE DO THAT.
9:39:08AM BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A PREDICATE TO SOMETHING ELSE,
9:39:11AM NOT NECESSARILY TO REGISTER THE BIKE BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP
9:39:15AM YOU SAFE.
9:39:16AM THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH IT.
9:39:18AM AND WE DIDN'T MENTION THIS WHEN WE TALKED PRIVATELY BECAUSE
9:39:20AM I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:39:23AM I FORGOT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT IT.
9:39:26AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID TALK ABOUT PRIVATELY AND I WANT TO
9:39:28AM ASK YOU ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
9:39:31AM WAS NUMBER OF BIKE PATROLS, AND GUYS GETTING OUT OF THEIR
9:39:35AM VEHICLES AND GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, BICYCLES AS OPPOSED TO
9:39:41AM CARS.
9:39:42AM WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT IT AND YOU SAID -- EXPLAIN TO ME
9:39:45AM WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING WITH YOUR OFFICERS CONCERNING BIKE
9:39:48AM PATROLS.
9:39:48AM >> WELL, EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE COMMONLY
9:39:53AM REFER TO AS THE DOWNTOWN BIKE PATROL.
9:39:56AM BUT IT'S ACTUALLY IT EXPANDS BEYOND DOWNTOWN AND GOES INTO
9:39:59AM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:40:00AM WHAT WE DID IS WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SET OF BIKES IN ALL
9:40:04AM THREE DISTRICT OFFICES WHERE THE OFFICERS DEPENDING ON THE
9:40:09AM CALL LOAD AND HOW BUSY THEY ARE, THEY WILL GET ON THEIR
9:40:11AM BIKES AND GET OUTSIDE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND REALLY
9:40:14AM INTERACT WITH PEOPLE.
9:40:15AM YOU KNOW, AS POLICE WORK HAS EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS,
9:40:20AM OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO HAVE CARS.
9:40:21AM IT MAKES YOU MORE EFFICIENT TO GET AROUND.
9:40:24AM IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE AND EVERYTHING.
9:40:25AM BUT THE CAR SERVES AS A BARRIER.
9:40:27AM THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT.
9:40:29AM AND BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THESE DAYS, THE
9:40:32AM WALKING BEAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO GET BACK INTO, BUT
9:40:37AM IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN ANYMORE AS MUCH AS USED TO BE.
9:40:43AM THE BICYCLES GIVE OFFICERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE
9:40:45AM PLAYGROUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YET STILL BE AVAILABLE
9:40:48AM TO ANSWER CALLS AND GET AROUND QUICKLY.
9:40:51AM DURING RUSH HOUR YOU CAN PROBABLY GET AROUND ON A BICYCLE
9:40:54AM FASTER THAN YOU CAN IN A CAR.
9:40:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ABSOLUTELY.
9:40:58AM SOME SECTIONS OF TOWN FOR SURE.
9:41:00AM AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PRIVATELY WAS THAT
9:41:05AM THE IDEA BEHIND KIND OF THE WALKING THE BEAT WAS TO MAKE
9:41:09AM SURE THAT THE POLICE OFFICER THAT IS PROTECTING THAT SECTION
9:41:12AM OF TOWN, THAT SECTOR, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF GRID THAT THEY
9:41:16AM ARE IN, WAS I GET TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORS, I GET TO KNOW THE
9:41:20AM BUSINESS OWNERS, I GET TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW WHO
9:41:23AM IS SOMEONE THAT LIVES DOWN THE STREET AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY
9:41:28AM THAT MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL PERPETRATOR OR OTHER CRIMINAL TYPE
9:41:31AM OF ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON.
9:41:33AM AND IS ABLE TO GIVE YOUR EYES AND EARS TO SOMEONE BECAUSE
9:41:38AM YOU HAVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS NOW TALKING ABOUT IT MORE THAN
9:41:42AM JUST A POLICE OFFICER IN AN AUTOMOBILE.
9:41:45AM JUST BY HAPPENSTANCE YESTERDAY, I WAS AT A MEETING, AND I
9:41:49AM SAW CHIEF HOLLAWAY FROM ST. PETE.
9:41:51AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE OF COURSE IT WAS ON MY MIND.
9:41:55AM I KNEW YOU WOULD BE HERE TODAY.
9:41:56AM HE SAID HIS OFFICERS THAT HE ALLOWS THEM TO GO AN HOUR, TWO
9:42:00AM HOURS, TO GO OUT AND RIDE THE BIKE OR WALK THEIR PARTICULAR
9:42:04AM AREA, TO GET TO KNOW THEM.
9:42:07AM THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT LET'S DO WHAT ST. PETE DOES.
9:42:10AM JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT I MADE BASED ON WHAT HE SAID.
9:42:13AM IT SEEMED LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
9:42:15AM ABOUT PRIVATELY, AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO TALK MORE
9:42:19AM ABOUT AND HOW WE INSTITUTE IT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT PART OF
9:42:23AM OUR PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BICYCLE STOPS, IS
9:42:26AM THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE NOT ENGAGING IN A MORE BROAD WAY
9:42:34AM IN A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:42:35AM SO IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WITH SOME OF THE
9:42:38AM STATS, THERE'S A LOT OF CRIME AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
9:42:40AM YOU SHOWED IT ON YOUR FENCE HE IS FORCE 17 AND ST. LOUIS.
9:42:46AM I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO GO BACK TO AND I THINK I MADE THAT
9:42:49AM SUGGESTION TO YOU PRIVATELY, SO I AM NOT TALKING OUT OF
9:42:52AM SCHOOL HERE THAT WE MATE WANT TO LOOK AT MORE OF THAT
9:42:54AM COMMUNITY POLICING IN SOME WAY.
9:42:56AM NOW, YOU HAVE GOT ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OFFICERS.
9:43:00AM YOU HAVE ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS IN A DAY AND I KNOW
9:43:02AM THAT'S A DIFFICULT THING BUT WE MATE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT
9:43:05AM AT SOME POINT.
9:43:06AM BECAUSE I THINK -- AND I AM NOT AN EXPERT AT ALL ABOUT LAW
9:43:09AM ENFORCEMENT BUT IT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY OF GETTING THE
9:43:12AM COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
9:43:12AM I KNOW YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN RIGHT NOW.
9:43:15AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH IN THE
9:43:17AM COMMUNITY.
9:43:17AM YOU DO A LOT.
9:43:18AM BUT I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
9:43:20AM SECONDLY, I THINK IT ACTUALLY HELPS THE POLICE OFFICERS WHEN
9:43:23AM IT COMES TO THESE KIND OF STOPS, BECAUSE THE OFFICERS ARE
9:43:27AM BEING BLAMED FOR PERFORMING A FUNCTION THAT COMES FROM UPPER
9:43:31AM LEVEL OF STAFF.
9:43:32AM YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT.
9:43:33AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO, WHICH IS THE CHIEF IS GOING TO
9:43:36AM TELL YOU WHAT TO DO AND YOU ARE GOING TO SAY YES, SIR, WE
9:43:40AM ARE GOING TO DO IT, OKAY, BASED ON WHATEVER THE DIRECTIVE
9:43:43AM IS.
9:43:43AM AND I THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE WE
9:43:49AM HAVE AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO ACTUALLY CHANGE SOME
9:43:52AM THINGS, AND ACTUALLY, I THINK, BE A LITTLE MORE FORWARD
9:43:56AM LOOKING ON IT.
9:43:57AM BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS THAT YOU
9:43:59AM HAVE GOT NOW SIGNIFICANTLY HAVE GONE DOWN.
9:44:02AM I THINK YOU RECOGNIZE THE WAY THAT IT WAS PERFORMED, AND
9:44:06AM PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, CHIEF, WHEN WE SPOKE
9:44:08AM PRIVATELY, I THINK YOU SAID THERE WAS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON
9:44:11AM THE OFFICERS TO GIVE CITATIONS OR TO BE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE
9:44:17AM ON THESE THINGS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW, WHICH
9:44:20AM IS MORE OF OBSERVING, MAKING SURE YOU ARE DOING GOOD POLICE
9:44:24AM WORK AS OPPOSED TO SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY
9:44:27AM TICKETS.
9:44:28AM AM I CORRECT?
9:44:29AM >> WELL, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING
9:44:33AM TO -- PRODUCTIVITY OF OFFICERS AND TRYING TO REDUCE CRIME.
9:44:40AM THAT WAS PART OF THE TRACKING OF IT ALL.
9:44:42AM SO I DO THINK THAT CAME INTO PLAY WHERE OFFICERS WERE TRYING
9:44:45AM TO PROVE OF THAT THEY WERE OUT THERE WORKING AND TRYING TO
9:44:48AM REDUCE CRIME.
9:44:50AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICING, ONE OF THE
9:44:54AM THINGS WE DO TRACK AS FAR AS A PRODUCTIVITY REPORT OF THE
9:44:57AM OFFICERS IS HOW MUCH COMMUNITY POLICING TIME THEY DO.
9:44:59AM >> OKAY.
9:45:01AM >> WE DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY POLICING.
9:45:03AM AND THE FACT THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT OUT IN THE FOREFRONT,
9:45:06AM THAT STRICTLY FALLS ON ME.
9:45:09AM I'M NOT REAL GOOD AT TOOTING MY OWN HORN.
9:45:11AM I'M NOT REAL GOOD AT LOOK AT US.
9:45:15AM YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT CHIEFS OF POLICE SHOULD BE SEEN BUT
9:45:19AM NOT HEARD.
9:45:20AM SO THAT'S WHY IT FALLS ON ME AND I NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB
9:45:24AM IN THAT.
9:45:24AM BUT IT IS POLITICAL SEASON, AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR MY
9:45:29AM VOICE TO GET HEARD OVER EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
9:45:31AM I'M TALKING ABOUT IN GENERAL BUT IT'S A STATE WADE POLITICAL
9:45:34AM SEASON.
9:45:34AM >> AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE IT IS ALWAYS POLITICAL SEASON FOR
9:45:37AM YOU, OKAY?
9:45:41AM BUT YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST POLITICAL JOBS OUT THERE
9:45:43AM BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE TO DEAL WITH MORE PEOPLE, AND USUALLY IN
9:45:45AM THE WORST CIRCUMSTANCES POSSIBLE, AND YOUR GUYS THAT ARE OUT
9:45:49AM THERE AND THE LADIES, THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE IN A
9:45:52AM VERY TOUGH SITUATION.
9:45:53AM SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:45:55AM I JUST THINK THAT WHEN WE START LOOKING AT PROCESSES, WE ARE
9:45:58AM TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EASIER FOR YOU AND IT'S EASIER
9:46:01AM FOR US WHEN WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE COMMUNITY
9:46:04AM AND IT'S EASIER FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OUT THERE ON
9:46:07AM A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF
9:46:11AM CONNECTIONS THAT THEY GET IN THE COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO BE
9:46:13AM POSITIVE CONNECTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN SOLVE CRIMES, AND BE
9:46:16AM SAFE.
9:46:16AM >> I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
9:46:19AM AND WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.
9:46:23AM I KNOW I SHOWED YOU THE MAP.
9:46:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, AFTER THIS, I WILL BE --
9:46:30AM >> FOR 2017 LAST YEAR, PART 1 CRIMES, MURDER, RAPE, ROBBERY,
9:46:35AM AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, BURGLARY, LARCENY, MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT,
9:46:40AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT CITIES OUR SIZE AND LOOK AT THAT CHART, IT
9:46:43AM SHOWS THAT WE ARE DOING VERY GOOD.
9:46:45AM AND THAT'S WHY THE MAP ON THE BIKE STOPS OVER TIME, I DON'T
9:46:49AM WANT TO BE MISLEADING SO WE ARE DOING VERY GOOD IN THE CITY
9:46:52AM OF TAMPA WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CRIME REDUCTION FOR A CITY OUR
9:46:55AM SIZE.
9:46:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE THAT, CHIEF.
9:46:58AM THANKS, CHAIR.
9:46:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:47:00AM AND THANK YOU, CHIEF DUGAN, FOR ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU
9:47:03AM PROVIDED US AND FOR THE MEETINGS.
9:47:06AM YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU DON'T DO A GOOD JOB OF
9:47:08AM TOOTING YOUR OWN HORN SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
9:47:15AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SHOWED US, ONE
9:47:17AM OF THE STATISTICS THAT YOU SHARED WITH US, IS THAT THERE HAS
9:47:19AM BEEN A 90% REDUCTION IN BIKE STOP CITATIONS SINCE 2013, AND
9:47:25AM BASICALLY A 50% DECLINE IN WARNINGS, ARRESTS SINCE 2014 AND
9:47:29AM 15.
9:47:30AM SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, TO PUT ALL OF THIS INTO CONTEXT,
9:47:35AM WHAT ARE WE DOING DIFFERENTLY TODAY THAN WE WERE DOING THAT
9:47:40AM WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT REPORT?
9:47:45AM HOW HAVE WE CHANGED SO THE NUMBER OF STOPS WE SEE TODAY WE
9:47:48AM CAN PUT INTO CONTEXT BETWEEN WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
9:47:51AM THREE AND FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP?
9:47:54AM >> WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS WE WERE NOT ABLE
9:47:57AM TO TRACK WARNINGS.
9:47:59AM SO IF YOU DIDN'T GIVE A CITATION TO SOMEONE, IT'S ALMOST
9:48:02AM LIKE THE STOP DIDN'T HAPPEN.
9:48:04AM WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK STOPS AND CITATIONS BUT WE WEREN'T
9:48:07AM ABLE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRACK WARNINGS.
9:48:10AM WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN A BICYCLE
9:48:13AM STOP AND A TRAFFIC STOP OF A VEHICLE.
9:48:15AM WE HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AT DOCUMENTING THAT.
9:48:18AM STILL NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S MUCH BETTER.
9:48:22AM THE ABILITY TO NOW WHEN YOU DO A TRAFFIC STOP, AND WE LOOK
9:48:26AM AT OFFICER PRODUCTIVITY, A CITATION ISSUED AND A WARNINGS
9:48:31AM ISSUED ARE THE SAME THING IN MY OPINION.
9:48:33AM I AM OKAY WITH US GIVING MUCH MORE WARNINGS OUT THERE THAN
9:48:36AM WE DO CITATIONS.
9:48:37AM I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IF YOU STOP ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR VIOLATION
9:48:40AM OF A TRAFFIC LAW YOU ARE GOING TO FIND SOMEONE THAT DESERVES
9:48:43AM A TICKET.
9:48:44AM BY US BEING ABLE TO TRACK OUR WARNINGS, WE NOW CAN SEE, WAIT
9:48:48AM A MINUTE, YOU WERE GIVEN TWO WARNINGS FOR RUNNING THROUGH
9:48:51AM THIS SAME STOP SIGN.
9:48:52AM CLEARLY THE WARNINGS ISN'T WORKING AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR YOU
9:48:55AM TO GET A TICKET.
9:48:56AM I HAVE PREACHED THE OFFICERS TO GIVE THEM TO THE DISCRETION
9:49:01AM BASED UPON THE SITUATION AS TO WHETHER THEY ISSUE A CITATION
9:49:04AM OR NOT.
9:49:05AM I THINK THE OFFICERS WERE GIVEN GUNS AND BADGES, AND WE
9:49:08AM TRUST THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.
9:49:10AM I HAVE TO TRUST THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY OF ME
9:49:14AM AND MAIN AS CHIEF OF POLICE AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE
9:49:16AM RIGHT THING WHEN THEY ISSUE CITATIONS.
9:49:18AM YOU CAN'T HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY IN MY OPINION BECAUSE
9:49:22AM IT TAKES AWAY THEIR DISCRETION AND CAN ERODE THE PUBLIC
9:49:25AM TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY.
9:49:27AM IF YOU TELL THEM YOU HAVE ZERO PERCENT -- ZERO TOLL EARNS
9:49:32AM POLICY FOR SPEEDING ON 40th STREET OR ON BAYSHORE, WHAT
9:49:36AM IF THEY ARE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL?
9:49:37AM BECAUSE SOMEONE IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK.
9:49:39AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE AND GIVE THE OFFICERS THE
9:49:42AM ABILITY TO USE THAT DISCRETION AND COMMON SENSE.
9:49:44AM SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS WE ARE NOW ABLE TO TRACK
9:49:48AM WARNINGS WHEREAS BEFORE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO.
9:49:50AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY
9:49:53AM SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS IT.
9:49:58AM BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BEHIND THE CHANGES IN THE NUMBER?
9:50:02AM IS IT JUST THE FACT THAT AN OFFICER IS ABLE TO SEE THAT
9:50:08AM HISTORY?
9:50:09AM ARE THERE DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY THAT YOU ARE DIRECTING
9:50:11AM PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE OUT IN THE
9:50:15AM FIELD?
9:50:16AM >> WE ARE STILL DOING -- YOU TALK ABOUT BICYCLE CITATIONS
9:50:22AM THEMSELVES?
9:50:23AM WE STILL ARE STOPPING PEOPLE.
9:50:24AM BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT WE DO REALIZE THERE'S A DISPARATE
9:50:30AM NUMBER, AND I THINK IT'S CHANGE IN PHILOSOPHY FOR ME AS
9:50:33AM CHIEF, AND I THINK THE OFFICERS, LET'S BE REAL ABOUT THE
9:50:37AM WHOLE THING.
9:50:37AM IF I WERE AN OFFICER AND I WAS GOING TO BE SCRUTINIZED EVERY
9:50:41AM TIME I STOP SOMEONE ON A BIKE AND GAVE A CITATION TO A BLACK
9:50:45AM PERSON, I WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER NOT ISSUING THEM A
9:50:48AM CITATION, JUST BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DEFEND BEING
9:50:53AM CALLED A RACIST.
9:50:54AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THEN WHAT DO YOU DO THEN?
9:50:59AM WHAT'S YOUR ANTIDOTE?
9:51:03AM >> IF THEY ARE NOT VIOLATING, HAVE NOT DONE A CRIME, IF YOU
9:51:06AM STOP THEM FOR THAT REASON, AND YOU FIND OUT THEY HAVE NOT
9:51:10AM COMMITTED A CRIME, YOU ISSUE THEM A WARNING.
9:51:12AM >>HARRY COHEN: AND GETTING BACK TO THE REASON THAT YOU STOP
9:51:17AM SOMEONE.
9:51:17AM WHEN WE MET, YOU TALKED ABOUT RESPONDING TO CALLS, AND OFTEN
9:51:25AM A PERSON WILL BE STOPPED BECAUSE THERE WILL BE AN ACTIVE
9:51:28AM CRIME GOING ON THAN IN A SPECIFIC AREA, AND YOU ARE LOOKING
9:51:31AM TO SOLVE THAT SPECIFIC INCIDENT, RIGHT?
9:51:35AM >> CORRECT.
9:51:36AM >>HARRY COHEN: AND HOW DOES THAT DIFFER FROM JUST BEING OUT
9:51:39AM AND ABOUT MAKING RANDOM STOPS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD?
9:51:44AM >> WELL, I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT I
9:51:47AM THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT CRIME TRENDS AND TYPES OF THINGS
9:51:51AM LIKE THAT.
9:51:52AM LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR VIOLENT CRIMES AND THE HOURS FOR
9:51:58AM 2017.
9:51:58AM AND WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS, THE NUMBER OF OUR VIOLENT
9:52:05AM CRIMES AND WHEN THEY ARE HAPPENING AT NIGHT FROM 7:00 --
9:52:09AM FROM 6:00 TO 7:00 AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEN LOOK AT THE SAME
9:52:14AM THING IN OUR BIKE STOPS WITH THE HOUR OF THE DAY.
9:52:19AM YOU CAN SEE WE ARE DOING A MORE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF BIKE
9:52:22AM STOPS WHEN THE VIOLENT CRIMES ARE OCCURRING.
9:52:26AM SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
9:52:28AM YOU HAVE TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY.
9:52:29AM LOOK AT THE INFORMATION.
9:52:30AM INFORM THE OFFICERS.
9:52:32AM AND UTILIZE IT THAT WAY.
9:52:34AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU.
9:52:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
9:52:41AM CHIEF, LET ME JUST SAY, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS CHART,
9:52:47AM THIS DATA AND THIS INFORMATION.
9:52:53AM I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OBSERVATION.
9:52:57AM AND MY OBSERVATION IS, EVEN THOUGH THE CITATIONS ARE DOWN,
9:53:05AM EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE GIVING OUT MORE WARNINGS, LOOK AT THE
9:53:11AM DEMOGRAPHICS.
9:53:15AM FROM 2016-17-18, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN STOPPED
9:53:21AM MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE HAVE BEEN BLACK MALES.
9:53:26AM SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, WHY IS THAT THE CASE?
9:53:30AM AND, TWO, ARE YOU TARGETING BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS?
9:53:34AM BECAUSE THAT MANY PEOPLE, BLACK MALES, ON ALL YOUR CHARTS,
9:53:44AM AND THIS STOOD OUT TO ME MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE WHEN I
9:53:46AM LOOKED AT THIS, THAT THEY WERE BLACK MALES.
9:53:50AM SO IN ORDER TO CITE THEM OR GIVE THEM WARNING, ARE YOU GOING
9:53:55AM INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND STOPPING THESE BLACK MALES?
9:53:59AM BECAUSE I WILL BE DAMNED IF THEY GO INTO A WHITE COMMUNITY
9:54:07AM THAT TIME OF THE MORNING.
9:54:08AM THEY WOULD BE SHOT.
9:54:09AM SO I KNOW THAT IS NOT HAPPENING IN THE WHITE COMMUNITY.
9:54:11AM I WANT TO KNOW, ARE YOU TARGETING THE BLACK COMMUNITY?
9:54:14AM BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS -- I MEAN, OUTSTANDING, EVERY
9:54:19AM CATEGORY.
9:54:20AM YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TOOT YOUR HORN WITH THAT.
9:54:23AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2,298 BLACK MALES STOPPED IN SOME KIND OF
9:54:32AM WAY.
9:54:33AM SO THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU.
9:54:40AM HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE BEING STOPPED?
9:54:43AM ARE THEY STOPPED IN NEIGHBORHOODS?
9:54:45AM >> WELL, THE ANSWER IS NO, WE ARE NOT TARGETING BLACK MALES
9:54:49AM OR BLACK PEOPLE FOR ANYTHING.
9:54:51AM WHAT WE DO IS WE GO AND WE LOOK AT THE CRIME TRENDS FOR EACH
9:54:55AM SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:54:56AM AND WE LOOK AT THEIR MODE OF OPERATION AND HOW THEY ARE
9:54:58AM DOING THINGS.
9:54:59AM YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT -- JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A
9:55:02AM DISPARITY IN NUMBER DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S A BIAS.
9:55:06AM NOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVE BIAS IN ANY WALK OF LIFE.
9:55:11AM BUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A DISPARITY DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE
9:55:13AM ARE TARGETING OR ANYTHING ELSE.
9:55:15AM LET'S LOOK AT THE DUI ARRESTS FOR 2018 SO FAR.
9:55:21AM AND THE MAP DOESN'T REALLY -- BUT LET'S LOOK AT THESE BLUE
9:55:25AM DOTS DUI ARRESTS FOR 2018.
9:55:28AM WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, YOU SEE 75% OF THE PEOPLE WE
9:55:33AM ARREST FOR DUI ARE WHITE.
9:55:36AM AND YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY ARE IN, WHEN YOU
9:55:40AM GO INTO SOUTH TAMPA, YOU WILL SEE THAT 83% OF THE DUI
9:55:46AM ARRESTS WE MAKE ARE WHITE.
9:55:49AM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, I ASK YOU, ARE WE
9:55:51AM TARGETING WHITE PEOPLE FOR DUI?
9:55:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BUT WE ARE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
9:55:57AM BICYCLES.
9:55:58AM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DUI.
9:56:00AM >> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, THOUGH.
9:56:01AM WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BICYCLISTS IN SOUTH TAMPA LIKE
9:56:05AM WE DO IN EAST TAMPA COMMITTING CRIMES.
9:56:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME SHOW YOU --
9:56:09AM >> YOU CAN TAKE A DISPARATE NUMBER.
9:56:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 272 CITY-WIDE, WHITE MALES, 876.
9:56:18AM BLACK MALES, 23,298.
9:56:22AM NOW, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MATHEMATICIAN TO
9:56:25AM UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES THERE.
9:56:26AM >> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE CITATIONS ON BAYSHORE SINCE YOU
9:56:31AM TALKED ABOUT THAT.
9:56:32AM LET'S LOOK AT OUR CITATIONS ON BAYSHORE.
9:56:34AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITATIONS ON BAYSHORE FOR 2018, 63% OF
9:56:41AM THE CITATIONS THAT WE ARE ISSUING ON BAYSHORE ARE TO WHITE
9:56:45AM PEOPLE.
9:56:45AM DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE TARGETING WHITE PEOPLE ON BAYSHORE?
9:56:49AM LOOK AT 40TH STREET WHERE WE HAD ACCIDENTS ON 40TH STREET.
9:56:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DIDN'T RELATE --
9:56:54AM >> YOU LOOK AT -- WELL, WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT DISPARITY.
9:56:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO, NO, WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BLACK
9:57:00AM STOPS.
9:57:00AM SO ARE THESE RELATED --
9:57:03AM >> IT'S UNFAIR FOR YOU TO CHARACTERIZE --
9:57:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SIR, YOU CAME HERE TO GIVE A REPORT ABOUT
9:57:08AM BIKES.
9:57:08AM >> AND YOU ARE QUESTIONING THE DISPARITIES.
9:57:11AM THESE ARE A CHALLENGE THAT EVERY POLICE DEPARTMENT ACROSS
9:57:13AM THE NATION HAS.
9:57:15AM SO IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DISPARITIES IN POLICING, I
9:57:18AM DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO NARROW IT DOWN TO ONE TOPIC.
9:57:21AM LET'S RIP THE BAND-AID OFF AND TALK ABOUT POLICING IN THE
9:57:25AM CITY AND SHOW THE DISPARITIES ACROSS THE BOARD.
9:57:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE IS THE AGENDA.
9:57:29AM CHIEF DUGAN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO APPEAR AND PROVIDE A REPORT
9:57:32AM ON BICYCLE STOPS, AND --
9:57:37AM >> OKAY.
9:57:38AM SO YOU LOOK AT THE CITATIONS AND WARNINGS ON 40TH STREET.
9:57:41AM AND FOR SOME REASON, YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET A CITATION
9:57:45AM ON BAYSHORE THAN YOU ARE ON 40th STREET.
9:57:47AM LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF WARNINGS IN RED THAT ARE GIVEN OUT ON
9:57:50AM 40TH STREET.
9:57:51AM WHY IS IT THAT YOU GET OUT OF THE NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE
9:57:54AM THAT ARE STOPPED, YOU HAVE 582 PEOPLE THAT ARE STOPPED ON
9:57:58AM 40TH STREET, AND 470 OF THEM ARE GIVEN WARNINGS INSTEAD OF
9:58:03AM CITATIONS.
9:58:05AM BUT YET YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE STOPPED AND GIVEN A
9:58:08AM CITATION WHEN YOU ARE WHITE ON BAYSHORE.
9:58:10AM DISPARITIES ARE ACROSS THE BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO POLICING.
9:58:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S AN OBVIOUS ANSWER TO BE THAT QUESTION
9:58:22AM BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO A DEBATE.
9:58:26AM >> I THINK WE SHOULD GET INTO IT.
9:58:28AM I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION.
9:58:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO WASTE THIS
9:58:32AM COUNCIL'S TIME GETTING TO THAT SO --
9:58:35AM >> WE ARE WEIGHTING COUNCIL'S TIME ON HOW WE POLICE OUR
9:58:39AM NEIGHBORHOOD, SIR?
9:58:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO.
9:58:40AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS TRYING TO PLAY A GAME, BECAUSE WE ARE
9:58:46AM ASKING ABOUT BIKE STOPS AND YOU ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT SOME
9:58:49AM TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORIES.
9:58:50AM SO NOT TO WASTE YOUR TIME OR COUNCIL'S TIME, I AM READY TO
9:58:56AM MOVE ON.
9:58:56AM >> IS ANYONE ON COUNCIL LIKE TO HEAR ANY FURTHER
9:58:59AM INFORMATION?
9:58:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, YOU DON'T RUN COUNCIL.
9:59:01AM >> OKAY.
9:59:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:59:03AM MRS. CAPIN.
9:59:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, I WOULD.
9:59:05AM I WOULD.
9:59:10AM YOU POINTED OUT THAT THE CITATIONS FOR ALCOHOLIC, DRUNK,
9:59:19AM WHAT IS IT, DUIs, AND THE DIFFERENCE, AND I UNDERSTAND
9:59:23AM THAT REASON.
9:59:25AM I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS
9:59:32AM BEING TOLD, OR CITED, SAID THAT YOU ARE TARGETING BLACK
9:59:37AM MALES IN EAST TAMPA.
9:59:40AM AND YOUR POINT IS THEN WE ARE TARGETING WHITE PEOPLE IN
9:59:44AM SOUTH TAMPA.
9:59:47AM WITH THE DUIs.
9:59:48AM THAT'S THE ARGUMENT, IF THAT HOLDS.
9:59:51AM I UNDERSTAND YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
9:59:55AM I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I KNOW THAT THIS IS ABOUT
10:00:00AM BICYCLING.
10:00:01AM BUT IT ALSO -- ACCUSATIONS WERE THROWN AROUND, AND THAT I
10:00:07AM THINK IS A DISSERVICE TO OUR POLICE FORCE.
10:00:10AM AND I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT, BECAUSE I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO
10:00:13AM HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN A MUCH MORE CIVIL MANNER, IF YOU
10:00:19AM WILL.
10:00:20AM SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION, I WOULD BE GLAD TO
10:00:24AM HEAR IT.
10:00:24AM >> I MEAN, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP.
10:00:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
10:00:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT EVEN HERE TO TALK ABOUT BIKE
10:00:33AM STOPS, ABOUT MYSELF WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:00:35AM YEARS BACK MY CAR WAS STOLEN. THIS GOES ABOUT FOUR CHIEFS
10:00:38AM BACK.
10:00:39AM AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHIEF.
10:00:41AM AND I REMEMBER CALLING THE NUMBERS, NONEMERGENCY, AND I'M
10:00:45AM SURE -- IN FACT IT WAS UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION.
10:00:50AM AND THE ANSWER SAID WE ARE OPEN FROM NINE TO FIVE, NOR
10:00:56AM NONEMERGENCY CALLS 8 TO 5.
10:00:57AM I SAID WHAT HAPPENS IF YOUR CAR IS STOLEN ON FRIDAY?
10:01:00AM CAN'T CALL TILL MONDAY.
10:01:01AM BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE NOW.
10:01:03AM MY CAR WAS STOLEN AND I HAD ANOTHER CAR.
10:01:07AM BUT THAT CAR DIDN'T HAVE A TAG.
10:01:09AM AND I HAD TO COME TO CITY HALL.
10:01:11AM I SAID, I AIN'T GOT TIME TO GET A TAG NOW.
10:01:14AM DROVE THE CAR TO CITY HALL, DROVE THE CAR ILLEGALLY, WENT
10:01:19AM ACROSS THE STREET, GOT A TAG FOR THE CAR, CALLED THE
10:01:21AM INSURANCE COMPANY, TRANSFERRED THE LICENSE, INSURANCE TO
10:01:24AM THAT CAR.
10:01:25AM THAT NIGHT, SINCE THAT CAR HADN'T BEEN DRIVEN IN ABOUT A
10:01:28AM YEAR, I SAID LET ME TAKE IT ON THE EXPRESSWAY AND DRIVE THE
10:01:32AM FUMES OUT OF IT AND I DID.
10:01:34AM I WENT DOWN NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:01:36AM AND I HAD AN 82 HONDA PRELUDE.
10:01:41AM THE CAR STOLEN WAS AN 84 CADILLAC IN MINT CONDITION.
10:01:44AM I GOT STOPPED BY A POLICE OFFICER.
10:01:46AM FOR WHATEVER REASON I SAID I AM GOING TO GET STOPPED.
10:01:48AM HE PULLED ME OVER.
10:01:50AM AND HE ASKED ME, CAN I SEE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE?
10:01:53AM I GAVE IT TO HIM.
10:01:54AM CAN I SEE YOUR INSURANCE?
10:01:55AM I GAVE IT TO HIM.
10:01:56AM AND I KNEW AS SOON AS I GOT THE INSURANCE CARD, YOUR CAR IS
10:02:00AM NOT INSURED.
10:02:01AM I SAID, YES, IT IS.
10:02:03AM AND I SAID, AND HE GOT A LITTLE ROUGH WITH ME.
10:02:06AM NOT ROUGH BUT I MEAN HE SAID -- I SAID, LOOK, ON THE BACK OF
10:02:09AM IT, IS A STOLEN POLICE REPORT AND THE CAR THAT THIS CAR IS
10:02:14AM REPLACING.
10:02:15AM AND THEN I ASKED HIM, WHY ARE YOU STOPPING ME?
10:02:18AM HE SAID YOU HAD A SUSPICIOUS CAR.
10:02:21AM HE COULDN'T SEE INSIDE THE CAR.
10:02:22AM WHAT ELSE IS HE GOING TO SAY?
10:02:23AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE STOPPED ME FOR.
10:02:25AM IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICING.
10:02:27AM YEARS LATER, I BOUGHT THREE TAGS.
10:02:31AM PUT THE WRONG LITTLE STICKER ON ANOTHER CAR.
10:02:34AM I GOT STOPPED HOWARD AND KENNEDY.
10:02:38AM THIS IS 10, 15 YEARS AGO.
10:02:42AM THEY GAVE ME A TICKET.
10:02:44AM TOOK IT DOWN.
10:02:45AM I BOUGHT THE THREE TAGS.
10:02:46AM GONE.
10:02:48AM SO THINGS HAPPEN IN LIFE.
10:02:50AM NOT TOO FAR, I HAD A RED VOLKSWAGEN.
10:02:55AM IN THE PARADE I WOULD TAKE IT TO WHEREVER THE PARADE WOULD
10:02:58AM END, GET A RIDE BACK.
10:02:59AM SO I GOT DROPPED OFF.
10:03:01AM GOT IN MY CAR AND WENT HOME.
10:03:02AM DIDN'T HAVE TO HITCH A RIDE.
10:03:04AM I GOT A TICKET INSIDE OF A PARKING GARAGE.
10:03:06AM AND IT WASN'T THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:03:09AM I SAID, WHAT HAVE I VIOLATED HERE?
10:03:11AM WELL, I DIDN'T BELIEVE THE TICKET THAT WELL.
10:03:16AM I PUT IN THE MY POCKET AND SAID I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT
10:03:18AM LATER. TWO WEEKS LATER ANOTHER PARADE, TAKE THE SAME CAR TO
10:03:23AM THE SAME PARKING GARAGE.
10:03:25AM I GOT ANOTHER TICKET.
10:03:26AM BUT THIS TIME I READ IT AND IT SAID FOR EXPIRED TAG.
10:03:28AM I SAID THERE'S BE NO WAY I HAVE AN EXPIRED TAG.
10:03:32AM I OWN THREE PLATES.
10:03:33AM WELL, I WAS SITTING AT HOME AND I WAS WATCHING ONE OF THE
10:03:38AM FORMER INDIVIDUALS IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO NOW RUNS THE
10:03:42AM COUNTY IN PASCO COUNTY, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT 154 PEOPLE
10:03:45AM WHOSE LICENSE, THE LITTLE YELLOW THING YOU PUT ON THE TAG,
10:03:49AM WAS STOLEN OFF THE PLATES.
10:03:51AM SO I SIDED TO LOOK AT MINE.
10:03:54AM MINE WAS NOT THERE.
10:03:56AM AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY CUT IT -- WHEN YOU PUT IT ON, THEY
10:03:59AM WANT YOU TO CUT IT WITH A RAISER BLADE SO YOU CAN'T GET IT
10:04:03AM OFF, FALLS APART.
10:04:05AM SO I COME AND I SAID, WELL, I CAME TO THE MAGISTRATE HERE.
10:04:09AM I SHOWED WHERE I BOUGHT THREE AND THE TICKET WAS DISMISSED.
10:04:14AM IN MY CASE IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT JUST BECAUSE MY
10:04:17AM NAME IS CHARLIE, I GUESS.
10:04:19AM BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:04:20AM AND YOU KNOW, WHY DO PEOPLE ROB BANKS?
10:04:22AM THEY ROB BANKS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS.
10:04:25AM SO WHAT I AM SAYING, NOTHING IS WHITE AND BLACK.
10:04:28AM NOTHING IS GREEN AND GRAY.
10:04:29AM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:04:30AM AND IF I'M CALLED ON AN INCIDENT, I IMAGINE YOU FELLOWS AND
10:04:37AM LADIES ARE CALLED TO HANDLE THINGS ON BECAME SHORE AND A
10:04:42AM SUSPICIOUS CALL, LOOK AT THIS.
10:04:43AM I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT PARKING.
10:04:47AM VERY HARD TO DIGEST IT.
10:04:50AM BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE THE CAR MAY BE GONE OR YOU HAVE TO
10:04:54AM TALK TO THE OWNERS TO MAKE SURE THE CAR IS NOT THERE'S.
10:04:57AM IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED MORE AND MORE.
10:04:59AM BUT POLICE OFFICERS, I AM NOT A GENIOUS, AND I DON'T INTEND
10:05:03AM BE ANYBODY TO THE A GENIOUS, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO AND DO YOUR
10:05:08AM DUTY AS YOU ARE TRAINED TO DO.
10:05:10AM AND IT'S VERY HARD TO BE A POLICE OFFICER ANYWHERE IN THE
10:05:13AM COUNTRY NOWADAYS.
10:05:16AM AND WHEN YOU SEE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, IT'S VERY HARD TO
10:05:19AM SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS UNLESS YOU HAVE HELP FROM WHO?
10:05:23AM FROM THE SAME PLACE YOU ARE GOING.
10:05:25AM I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IN POLICE WORK NOWADAYS, 50% OF THE
10:05:28AM CRIMES ARE SOLVED BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TELLS
10:05:31AM THE POLICE OFFICER WHAT THEY SAW AND WHAT THEY HAVE ON FILM,
10:05:35AM IN THEIR VIDEO CAMS.
10:05:39AM THERE'S CAMS EVERYWHERE.
10:05:41AM IN FACT IN MY CAR I AM GOING TO HAVE ONE INSTALLED SO I CAN
10:05:44AM SEE 24 HOURS A DAY.
10:05:45AM THEY DON'T COST MUCH MONEY TO DO THAT EITHER.
10:05:48AM SO TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING SO GREAT AND SO WONDERFUL THAT IT'S
10:05:53AM UNBELIEVABLE.
10:05:54AM BUT IT'S STILL VERY HARD TO DO TO BE A POLICE OFFICER.
10:06:01AM NUMBERS ARE NUMBERS.
10:06:01AM BUT FACT ARE SOMETIMES STORIED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS.
10:06:06AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:06:07AM THANKS THANK YOU.
10:06:07AM >> TO YOUR POINT, EACH COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR CITY HAS ITS OWN
10:06:12AM CHALLENGES AND EACH COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN CRIME TRENDS.
10:06:14AM AND WE WOULD BE FOOLISH IF FBI WE HAD SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING
10:06:19AM AROUND IN A NEIGHBORHOOD BREAKING INTO CARS, BREAKING INTO
10:06:23AM HOMES AND ROBBING PEOPLE WHILE DRIVING A WHITE VAN.
10:06:27AM WE WOULD BE FOOLISH IF WE WERE STOPPING PEOPLE ON A BICYCLE.
10:06:30AM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CRIME TRENDS.
10:06:32AM YOU HAVE TO LOOK.
10:06:33AM AND THE REASON I WAS ABLE TO SHOW THAT BAR CHART ON HOW
10:06:36AM CRIME IS DOWN IN TAMPA, IT'S BECAUSE THE TAMPA POLICE
10:06:38AM DEPARTMENT, NOT UNDER MY DIRECTION, OVER SEVERAL CHIEFS,
10:06:42AM OVER SEVERAL, 20 YEARS, HAS BEEN ABLE TO ADAPT AND CHANGE
10:06:46AM THEIR STRATEGY.
10:06:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE WHITE VAN.
10:06:50AM >> IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR TAGS AND STICKERS --
10:06:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW.
10:06:58AM I AM --
10:06:59AM >> I COULD HELP YOU WITH THAT.
10:07:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I DON'T WANT TO CALL YOU.
10:07:04AM HAD A WHITE VAN ONE DAY.
10:07:06AM I CAME BACK AND I SAID, I GOT THE KEY IN MY POCKET.
10:07:10AM SOMEBODY CALLS IT IN.
10:07:11AM AND THEY HAUL MY VAN OUT.
10:07:13AM JUST LAST SATURDAY.
10:07:15AM I GO TO THE HISPANIC -- YOU WERE THERE, MR. SUAREZ.
10:07:20AM I CAME BACK AND I GOT A TICKET ON MY CAR FOR PARKING IN MY
10:07:23AM SPACE WITH MY NAME ON IT.
10:07:25AM AND I TELL MYSELF, THIS COULD ONLY HAPPEN TO ME.
10:07:29AM IT WAS A JOKE.
10:07:30AM BUT I GOT THE TICKET.
10:07:34AM SOMEBODY ELSE TOOK CARE OF IT.
10:07:35AM NOT ME.
10:07:37AM THAT'S HOW IT IS.
10:07:37AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS BEEN
10:07:43AM AN ISSUE WITH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ALL OVER THE
10:07:49AM COUNTRY.
10:07:50AM WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING HERE IN
10:07:52AM OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT IT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
10:07:56AM BECAUSE WE DID HAVE NUMBERS THAT WERE OFF THE CHARTS, IF YOU
10:08:00AM WILL.
10:08:01AM BACK IN 2017, WAS IT?
10:08:05AM >> 2015 WAS THE ARTICLE AND IT WAS A FEW YEARS PRIOR.
10:08:09AM THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.
10:08:12AM THERE IS NO ONE WHO IS MORE SENSITIVE TO THIS TOPIC THAN ME
10:08:15AM CLEARLY BY MY PRESENTATION TODAY.
10:08:17AM I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT THERE'S DISPARITIES IN
10:08:20AM POLICING, NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY, THROUGHOUT OUR NATION, AND I
10:08:24AM HAVE TO QUESTION HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BEAT
10:08:27AM THIS HORSE ON THE BIKING?
10:08:30AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WELL, IT WAS SUCH AN EXORBITANT NUMBER
10:08:36AM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CALL IN OTHERS TO LOOK AT THESE
10:08:41AM NUMBERS AND HOW THIS WAS BEING DONE BY OUR POLICE FORCE.
10:08:48AM YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
10:08:49AM BUT WE ALSO -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
10:08:56AM I AM VERY CONFIDENT IT'S NOT HAPPENING UNDERSTOOD YOUR
10:08:59AM WATCH.
10:08:59AM BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY, NOBODY IS
10:09:04AM BEING TARGETED.
10:09:05AM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:09:07AM SO I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT.
10:09:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:09:12AM WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:09:18AM MR. MIRANDA.
10:09:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE I START, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO
10:09:21AM THE CLERK FORM 8-B FROM LAST WEEK ON ABSTAINING FROM VOTING
10:09:27AM PARTICIPATION.
10:09:28AM I WANT THAT FOR THE RECORD.
10:09:30AM I SAID I WOULD.
10:09:32AM ALSO, CHAIRMAN, PUBLIC WORKS, ITEMS 3 THROUGH 10.
10:09:37AM >> SECOND.
10:09:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:09:40AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:41AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:09:43AM OPPOSED?
10:09:44AM PARKS AND RECREATION, CULTURE COMMITTEE.
10:09:46AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 14.
10:09:50AM >> SECOND.
10:09:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:53AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:09:54AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:09:56AM OPPOSED?
10:09:57AM ALL RIGHT.
10:09:57AM PUBLIC WORKS.
10:09:59AM YOLIE CAPIN.
10:10:00AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 26 OF PUBLIC WORKS.
10:10:06AM >> SECOND.
10:10:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 15 THROUGH -- MOVED TO CONTINUE.
10:10:16AM >> MOVED TO DECEMBER 20th.
10:10:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.
10:10:28AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:10:29AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:10:30AM OPPOSED?
10:10:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
10:10:33AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
10:10:33AM I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WITH THE CLERK IS THAT ALSO SUFFICIENT
10:10:37AM FOR CONTINUING ITEM 15?
10:10:39AM THANK YOU.
10:10:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. COHEN.
10:10:49AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE 27 THROUGH 35.
10:10:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:10:54AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:10:55AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:10:57AM OPPOSED?
10:10:58AM OKAY.
10:10:59AM BUILDING, ZONING, MR. VIERA.
10:11:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 36 THROUGH 49 INCLUDING THE SUBSTITUTE
10:11:05AM RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 38.
10:11:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
10:11:10AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:11:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:11:13AM OPPOSED?
10:11:13AM ALL RIGHT.
10:11:13AM TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
10:11:14AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:11:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE ITEMS 50 THROUGH 54.
10:11:19AM >> MOTION.
10:11:21AM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:11:22AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:11:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:11:24AM OPPOSED?
10:11:25AM ALL RIGHT.
10:11:25AM MOTION CARRIED.
10:11:27AM WE GO TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:11:30AM ITEM 56 --
10:11:31AM >> BEFORE WE GO, ITEM NUMBER 55 HAS TO BE SCHEDULED FOR A
10:11:35AM PUBLIC HEARING, FEBRUARY 7, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:11:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:11:42AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:11:44AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:11:45AM OPPOSED?
10:11:45AM ALL RIGHT.
10:11:45AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:11:46AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 56
10:11:51AM THROUGH 60.
10:11:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:11:54AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:11:56AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:11:57AM OPPOSED?
10:11:58AM ALL RIGHT.
10:11:58AM ITEM NUMBER 56.
10:11:59AM >>LACHONE DOCK: PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
10:12:06AM COUNCIL, ITEM 56 THROUGH 59 ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:12:09AM AMENDMENT.
10:12:10AM THESE ITEMS ARE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING
10:12:12AM CONSIDERATION.
10:12:13AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:12:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:12:16AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:12:18AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 56?
10:12:23AM SEEING NONE, NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:12:28AM MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:12:29AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:12:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:12:31AM OPPOSED?
10:12:32AM ALL RIGHT.
10:12:32AM MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU READ NUMBER 56?
10:12:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:12:38AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
10:12:40AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
10:12:44AM GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3801 NORTH 15th STREET FROM
10:12:48AM RESIDENTIAL 10 R 10 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE BE 35 CMU-35
10:12:52AM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
10:12:55AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:12:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:12:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
10:13:01AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:13:02AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:13:02AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:13:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S NOT SHOWING ON OUR SCREEN.
10:13:17AM OKAY.
10:13:20AM ITEM NUMBER 57.
10:13:21AM >>MICHAEL HORNER: 14502 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY
10:13:31AM REPRESENTING APPLICANT.
10:13:32AM I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
10:13:33AM WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:13:35AM THANK YOU.
10:13:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:13:37AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?
10:13:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:13:43AM >> SECOND.
10:13:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:13:45AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:13:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:13:47AM OPPOSED?
10:13:48AM MR. MIRANDA.
10:13:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 57.
10:13:50AM FILE NUMBER PA 18-08.
10:13:54AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:13:57AM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
10:13:59AM LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF --
10:14:04AM WEST OF SOUTH BERMUDA BOULEVARD, NORTH OF MAPLE AVENUE, EAST
10:14:08AM OF SOUTH 22ND STREET AND SOUTH OF SAXON AVENUE FROM
10:14:11AM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, RESIDENTIAL 20, R-20, AND RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:14:16AM RW, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL
10:14:20AM OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
10:14:23AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:14:23AM >> SECOND.
10:14:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:14:29AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:14:30AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:14:31AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:14:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 58.
10:14:42AM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 58?
10:14:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:14:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:14:49AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:14:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:14:52AM OPPOSED?
10:14:54AM MS. CAPIN.
10:14:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:14:57AM MOVE FILE PA 18-09-A.
10:15:01AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
10:15:04AM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
10:15:06AM LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 108 EAST
10:15:11AM COLUMBUS DRIVE, FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, TO
10:15:18AM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, CC 35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10:15:23AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
10:15:25AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:15:26AM >> SECOND.
10:15:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:15:28AM WITH GOT A MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.
10:15:31AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:15:32AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:15:33AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:15:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:15:51AM NUMBER 59.
10:15:52AM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON 59?
10:15:55AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:15:56AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:15:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:16:01AM MR. MANISCALCO, WILL YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 59?
10:16:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:16:05AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
10:16:07AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
10:16:11AM GENERALLY LOCATED AT 110 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE FROM COMMUNITY
10:16:14AM MIXED USE 35 CMU-35, TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, CC 35,
10:16:20AM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
10:16:22AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:16:23AM >> SECOND.
10:16:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:16:26AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:16:29AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:16:30AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND SUAREZ VOTING
10:16:43AM NO.
10:16:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 60.
10:16:49AM IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 60, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN
10:16:52AM IN.
10:16:52AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
10:17:06AM >>RYAN MANASSE: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:17:08AM CORRECTIVE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK
10:17:11AM AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:17:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:17:16AM PETITIONER WISH TO SPEAK?
10:17:19AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:17:23AM HERE TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:17:25AM MATTHEW.
10:17:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:17:34AM 60?
10:17:34AM MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA TO CLOSE, SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:17:38AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:17:40AM OPPOSED?
10:17:40AM OKAY.
10:17:41AM MR. COHEN.
10:17:42AM WOULD YOU READ ITEM 60?
10:17:43AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:17:46AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
10:17:49AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL
10:17:53AM VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR OFF
10:17:59AM PREMISES COUPLES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE
10:18:02AM AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
10:18:05AM AT 2106 WEST MAIN STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
10:18:08AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL
10:18:11AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
10:18:16AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:18:28AM NO ENCODER).
10:18:35AM >> CHUCK WEBER, WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
10:18:49AM I'M HERE TO PROVIDE THE ANNUAL REPORT REGARDING QUALITY OF
10:18:52AM WATER TO BE TREATED AND THE QUALITY OF THE DRINKING WATER
10:18:56AM AFTER IT HAS BEEN TREATED.
10:18:58AM RATHER THAN SHOWING A BUNCH OF WATER QUALITY DATA AND CHARTS
10:19:00AM AND GRAPHS, I DECIDED JUST TO VERBALLY CHARACTERIZE OUR
10:19:05AM WATER QUALITY AND DISCUSS THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR WATER
10:19:09AM TREATMENT OPERATIONS.
10:19:11AM I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT NOT ONLY IS THE CITY IN
10:19:14AM COMPLIANCE WITH ALL DRINKING WATER REGULATIONS, BUT THIS
10:19:17AM YEAR MARKS THE 20th YEAR THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WATER
10:19:20AM DEPARTMENT HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE PARTNERSHIP FOR SAFE
10:19:23AM DRINKING WATER.
10:19:24AM THE PARTNERSHIP FOR SAFE DRINKING WATER IS A PROGRAM FOR
10:19:28AM UTILITIES THAT EMBRACE IT IS PHILOSOPHY OF CONSTANT
10:19:31AM VIGILANCE TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY.
10:19:34AM PARTNERSHIP MEMBERS ARE NEVER SATISFIED WITH THE STATUS QUO,
10:19:38AM AND ARE TENACIOUS IN OUR EFFORTS TO IMPROVE AND GO WELL
10:19:43AM BEYOND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR WATER QUALITY.
10:19:46AM BECAUSE WE HAVE MAINTAINED THIS LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE FOR 20
10:19:49AM YEARS, WE WILL BE RECEIVING THE 20-YEAR DIRECTOR'S AWARD.
10:19:52AM THIS AWARD IS PARTICULARLY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE TIPPIN WATER
10:19:57AM TREATMENT FACILITIES FOR A FEW REASONS.
10:19:59AM FIRST, IT IS THE ONLY WATER TREATMENT PLANT IN FLORIDA -- IN
10:20:07AM FLORIDA TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD.
10:20:10AM IT'S A RARE AWARD ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, AND VERY FEW
10:20:13AM TREATMENT PLANTS AT THE NAME LEVEL HAVE ACHIEVED IT.
10:20:17AM OUR PLANT IS ONE OF ONLY TWO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS IN THE
10:20:21AM ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT HAS MADE THIS COMMITMENT.
10:20:24AM THIS COMMITMENT TO WATER QUALITY IS EVIDENT IN OUR CONSUMER
10:20:27AM MUCH CAN INCIDENCE DENSE REPORT THAT IS DISTRIBUTED ANNUALLY
10:20:30AM TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND IS POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IN THE
10:20:33AM WATER DEPARTMENT SECTION.
10:20:37AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE RESULT OF A RECENT
10:20:40AM BENCHMARKING STUDY THAT WAS DONE WITH OUR RECENT WATER
10:20:45AM DEPARTMENT MASTER PLAN.
10:20:47AM THE STUDY IDENTIFIED TOTAL ORGANIC CARBON AS OUR BIGGEST
10:20:51AM WATER TREATMENT CHALLENGE COMING OFF OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
10:20:54AM RIVER.
10:20:56AM AND THE BENCHMARK CITY OF TAMPA ABILITY TO REMOVE TOTAL
10:21:03AM ORGANIC CARBON AGAINST SIMILAR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS
10:21:06AM THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND A COUPLE OTHER STATES.
10:21:08AM THE RESULTS DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT
10:21:11AM REMOVES A HIGHER AMOUNT OF TOC, TOTAL ORGANIC CARBON, THAN
10:21:15AM ANY OTHER PLANT THAT WAS BENCHMARKED.
10:21:17AM AND WE A TRIBUTE THAT TO THE EFFICIENT OPERATION.
10:21:20AM SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
10:21:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
10:21:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO SAY THANK YOU
10:21:30AM TO YOURSELF AND WHAT YOUR PREDECESSOR DID AND HIS PRES
10:21:35AM PREDECESSOR DAVID TIPPIN, AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE GREATEST
10:21:38AM WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND PEOPLE WORKING IN THE WATER
10:21:40AM DEPARTMENT.
10:21:41AM AND I DON'T MEAN IN MANAGEMENT ALONE.
10:21:43AM I MEAN ALL THE WATER PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY
10:21:47AM OF AMERICA.
10:21:47AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
10:21:54AM THE ORGANIC CARBON, WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THAT?
10:21:58AM >> THE GROAN SWAMP.
10:22:00AM THAT'S WHERE THE RIVER ORIGINATES.
10:22:02AM AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS, HOW WE GET SO MUCH ORGANIC
10:22:05AM CARBON SOURCE, IT'S A SWAMP.
10:22:07AM IT'S LIKE MAKING TEA.
10:22:09AM DURING THE DRY SEASON THE WATER SITS IN THAT SWAMP AND IT
10:22:13AM COOKS ALL THE ORGANICS.
10:22:15AM AND WHEN THE RAINS COME IT FLUSHES IT DOWN THE RIVER.
10:22:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
10:22:19AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:22:19AM >>HARRY COHEN: I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS NOT GOING
10:22:22AM TO TOOT HIS OWN HORN BEGUN WHAT HE'S BEEN FIGHTING AT TAMPA
10:22:26AM BAY WATER RECENTLY, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT
10:22:28AM PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE HE CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON IT,
10:22:32AM THAT WE ARE DISCHARGING HIGHLY TREATED WATER INTO THE BAY.
10:22:37AM WE ARE TREATING -- DISCHARGING WATER THAT IS DRINKING WATER
10:22:42AM QUALITY ALMOST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
10:22:44AM AND I WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY JUST
10:22:49AM ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH WE ARE TREATING THE ENVIRONMENT
10:22:52AM AROUND US, BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA SPECIAL STEPS THAT WE ARE
10:22:57AM TAKING IN TREATING WHAT WE ARE RELEASING.
10:22:59AM >> WELL, THE TREATMENT PROCESS AT THE ADVANCE WASTEWATER
10:23:03AM TREATMENT PLANT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL AND SIGNIFICANT IN
10:23:10AM RENEWING TAMPA BAY WATER SEAGRASS IN TAMPA BAY.
10:23:14AM SO WITH THE TAP PROJECT, WE CAN FURTHER REMOVE THOSE
10:23:19AM NUTRIENTS BY MAKING USE OF THAT WATER AND NOT PUTTING WHAT
10:23:22AM REMAINS IN THAT WATER INTO THE BAY.
10:23:24AM SO THERE'S SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS TO
10:23:28AM THE TAP PROJECT, IN ADDITION TO REMOVING IT FROM THE BAY.
10:23:35AM IT WILL CREATE A SALTWATER INTRUSION BARRIER UNDER THE CITY
10:23:38AM AND WILL KEEP OUR AQUIFER FRESH.
10:23:41AM IT WILL ACTUALLY FRESHEN THE AQUIFER THAT'S THERE NOW.
10:23:44AM SULPHUR SPRINGS HAS BECOME SALTIER OVER THE YEARS DUE TO
10:23:48AM SALTWATER INTRUSION COMING THROUGH THE RIVER.
10:23:51AM THIS WILL REVERSE THAT PROCESS, AND ACTUALLY RESTORE THE
10:23:55AM SALINITY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS BACK TO I THINK 1950s LEVEL OR
10:24:00AM BETTER.
10:24:01AM SO THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS.
10:24:04AM BUT IT'S ALSO THE WATER SUPPLY.
10:24:08AM THE WATER THAT'S COME OUT OF THE ADVANCE WASTEWATER
10:24:11AM TREATMENT PLANT IN MANY WAYS IS OF A HIGHER QUALITY THAN THE
10:24:15AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER RESERVOIR.
10:24:18AM SO FROM THAT ASPECT IT'S A GREAT WATER SOURCE AND WE NEED TO
10:24:22AM FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK.
10:24:24AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT
10:24:26AM SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THE PLAN THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND
10:24:33AM OFFICIALS AT TAMPA BAY WATER HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR.
10:24:35AM >> THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS.
10:24:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE, COMMENTS?
10:24:41AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:24:48AM ITEM NUMBER 70.
10:24:49AM WE RECEIVED A REPORT.
10:24:51AM MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:24:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:56AM OPPOSED?
10:24:58AM ALL RIGHT.
10:24:58AM AN OPTION HERE.
10:25:00AM WE HAVE SIX MINUTES BEFORE WE CAN GO TO 10:30 OR WE CAN GO
10:25:03AM TO STAFF ITEMS.
10:25:06AM >> MOVE ITEM NUMBER 71.
10:25:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:25:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:15AM OPPOSED?
10:25:15AM ALL RIGHT.
10:25:16AM WE CAN DO INFORMATION REPORTS.
10:25:18AM MR. SUAREZ?
10:25:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:25:29AM >>HARRY COHEN: I DON'T HAVE ANY EITHER.
10:25:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO?
10:25:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 12 COMMENDATIONS.
10:25:48AM JUST KIDDING.
10:25:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE HISPANIC CELEBRATION, PLEASE COME.
10:25:52AM YOU WILL BE HEARING SOME GREAT MUSIC AND GREAT
10:25:54AM ENTERTAINMENT.
10:25:55AM THANKS VERY MUCH.
10:25:56AM IT'S ABOUT 10:30 IN THE MORNING.
10:25:57AM BE THERE BY 11.
10:26:00AM ABOUT AN HOUR.
10:26:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:26:03AM NUMBER ONE, JUST MORE OF A PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT TODAY AT
10:26:07AM ST. PAUL LUTHERAN CHURCH 5103 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE THERE'S
10:26:11AM GOING TO BE A VOTE, YES, ON AMENDMENT 4 MEETING, JUST IN F
10:26:16AM ANYBODY WANTS TO GO, PUT ON BY BEN AND JERRY'S.
10:26:19AM THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FREE ICE CREAM THERE.
10:26:24AM 3 TO 7:00.
10:26:27AM BUT IT'S GOING TO BE FROM 3 TO 7.
10:26:31AM THIS COUNCIL VOTED 7-0 TO SUPPORT AMENDMENT 4 SO I CERTAINLY
10:26:35AM THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT.
10:26:36AM NUMBER TWO IS WE READ ABOUT THE INSTANCE INVOLVING THE
10:26:40AM GENTLEMAN DONTAE PALMER OVER IN JACKSONVILLE.
10:26:43AM IF YOU SAW HE WAS PROFILED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES AS BEING
10:26:45AM THE FATHER WHO WAS CHANGING HIS SON IN A PUBLIC RESTROOM AND
10:26:49AM THERE WASN'T AN AVAILABLE CHANGING STATION.
10:26:52AM I WANTED TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET
10:26:56AM MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO COME MAKE A PRESENTATION REGARDING
10:26:58AM CHANGING STATIONS IN PUBLIC RESTROOMS FOR NEW AND FUTURE
10:27:02AM FACILITIES.
10:27:03AM I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS PRESENTATION TO INCLUDE THE STATUS OF
10:27:05AM CHANGING STATIONS IN BOTH MEN AND WOMEN'S RESTROOMS.
10:27:08AM AND I WOULD LIKE FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THIS DEPARTMENT
10:27:10AM TO COME ON DECEMBER 6th.
10:27:12AM >> SECOND.
10:27:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
10:27:16AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:27:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:19AM OPPOSED?
10:27:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HAVE YOU ALREADY CHECKED TO SEE THAT WE
10:27:24AM DON'T HAVE THOSE CHANGING AREAS IN ALL OF OUR PUBLIC
10:27:26AM RESTROOMS?
10:27:27AM YOU HAVE GONE TO EVERY PUBLIC RESTROOM?
10:27:29AM >> I JUST INQUIRED WITH PEOPLE.
10:27:37AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:27:38AM >>HARRY COHEN: LET ME TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN
10:27:40AM ANNOUNCEMENT.
10:27:41AM NEXT MONDAY NIGHT, OCTOBER 29th, AT 6:00 P.M., THERE'S
10:27:45AM GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE KATE JACKSON CENTER
10:27:48AM WITH FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
10:27:51AM THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION, BUT ALSO A DISCUSSION OF THE
10:27:57AM CHANGES MADE TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, THE UPCOMING HOWARD
10:28:00AM AVENUE STORMWATER PROJECT, AND ALSO THE RESULTS OF THE
10:28:07AM PARKING STUDY.
10:28:10AM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE WRITTEN INTO MY OFFICES
10:28:12AM ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE ON BAYSHORE, SPECIFICALLY
10:28:14AM SOME OF THE DETAILS RELATED TO SOME OF THE NEW CROSSWALKS.
10:28:18AM ANY OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE STAFF WILL BE THAT NIGHT AT
10:28:23AM THAT MEETING.
10:28:23AM THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND
10:28:26AM REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER
10:28:28AM DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT AND QUESTIONS
10:28:33AM ABOUT IT.
10:28:33AM SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ANY OF THOSE TOPICS, MONDAY
10:28:37AM NIGHT, OCTOBER 29th AT THE KATE JACKSON CENTER.
10:28:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REMINDER TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT
10:28:46AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HAS SCHEDULED A SPECIAL DISCUSSION
10:28:48AM MEETING FOR THIS COMING MONDAY, OCTOBER 22ND, 2018, FROM
10:28:52AM 4 P.M. TO 5 P.M. AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA MARSHALL
10:28:56AM STUDENT CENTER, 4103 USF CEDAR CIRCLE TO DISCUSS EMPLOYMENT
10:29:04AM WITH AN EMPHASIS ON EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECENT
10:29:07AM UNIVERSITY SOUTH FLORIDA GRADUATES.
10:29:09AM THANK YOU.
10:29:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE STUDENT CENTER, I
10:29:13AM BELIEVE.
10:29:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE STUDENT CINCINNATI CHANGES, MSC, 4200.
10:29:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TALK FOR ONE MINUTE?
10:29:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S A DANGEROUS THING TO GIVE A
10:29:28AM POLITICIAN, ONE MINUTE.
10:29:32AM I. I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:29:33AM JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL.
10:29:35AM I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THIS HERE.
10:29:37AM YES, I DO.
10:29:38AM ALSO, JUST TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC
10:29:45AM HEARING THAT I HAVE POSTED FOR YOUR ANNUAL MEETING, BECAUSE
10:29:50AM MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HAD BEEN INVITED TO ATTEND
10:29:53AM THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF T.H.A.N., TAMPA HOMEOWNERS
10:29:56AM ASSOCIATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:29:57AM THE MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
10:29:58AM NO OFFICIAL CITY COUNCIL ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.
10:30:01AM AND THAT'S TO TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 14th,
10:30:04AM 2018, FROM 6:30 TO 8:30 P.M. AT THE LORETTA INGRAHAM
10:30:11AM COMMUNITY CENTER, 1611 NORTH HUBERT AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:30:18AM THANK YOU.
10:30:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE ONE ITEM.
10:30:22AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT -- A POSTHUMOUS
10:30:28AM COMMENDATION TO A GENTLEMAN NAMED MILTON YINIS WHO WAS ROCKY
10:30:35AM THE BULL.
10:30:36AM AND THE REASON I AM SAYING THIS, WHEN STUDENTS FROM USF HAVE
10:30:40AM COME THE LAST FEW YEARS HE WOULD SHOW UP AS ROCKY THE BULL.
10:30:44AM SO HE'S HAD A SPECIAL PLACE HERE.
10:30:49AM HE RECENTLY PASSED AWAY AT A VERY YOUNG AGE FROM LEUKEMIA, I
10:30:54AM BELIEVE.
10:30:55AM AND I WANTED TO INVITE HIS FAMILY DECEMBER 6th TO GIVE A
10:31:01AM RECOGNITION TO HIM FOR HIS ASSOCIATION WITH US.
10:31:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'LL SECOND WITH THAT.
10:31:06AM MILTON ACTUALLY WORKED AT BAY AREA LEGAL SERVICE WAS MY WIFE
10:31:12AM AND MY SON, HE WORKED WITH INTAKES.
10:31:15AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL KIND OF PERSONALITY TO DO IT.
10:31:17AM HE WAS A WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN.
10:31:19AM THANKS FOR MAKING THAT MOTION.
10:31:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:31:23AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:31:24AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:31:27AM OPPOSED?
10:31:27AM WE GO TO 10:30s.
10:31:29AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO OPEN OUR 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:31:32AM 61 THROUGH 67.
10:31:34AM >> SECOND.
10:31:34AM >> IF ANYONE IS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 62 THROUGH 67,
10:31:39AM PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:31:40AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
10:31:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO IT TO ITEM NUMBER 61.
10:31:55AM >>COLIN RICE: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:32:02AM THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR PROPOSED
10:32:05AM DESIGNATION OF THE WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT BROWNFIELD AREA.
10:32:08AM CITY ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING THIS DESIGNATION TO ASSIST
10:32:11AM IN THE ASSESSMENT AND REMEDIATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
10:32:14AM THAT EXIST IN THE WEST RIVER AREA.
10:32:16AM IT'S APPROXIMATELY 116 ACRES.
10:32:18AM DETAILS OF THIS DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT
10:32:22AM ENTITLED WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA
10:32:26AM DESIGNATION.
10:32:26AM IT'S AVAILABLE TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:32:29AM PURPOSE IS TO MAKE AVAILABLE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR
10:32:33AM REMEDIATING AND REDEVELOPING ABANDONED OR UNDERUTILIZED
10:32:36AM PROPERTIES.
10:32:38AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WHICH IS
10:32:40AM SCALD ON NOVEMBER 8th AT 6:00 P.M., COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN
10:32:44AM OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION FOR THE DESIGNATION OF THE
10:32:47AM WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT BROWNFIELD AREA.
10:32:51AM THAT'S A MOUTH FULL.
10:32:52AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:54AM WE ALSO HAVE DAN FAHEE AND JOSH ELLIS FROM CITY STAFF FOR
10:32:59AM ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:33:01AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 61?
10:33:03AM >> DICK KRAMER, 401 JACKSON STREET.
10:33:13AM I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.
10:33:14AM I REPRESENT RELATED URBAN WHO IS PARTNERING WITH
10:33:20AM REDEVELOPING PART OF THAT AREA, AND WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT
10:33:23AM OF THE DESIGNATION AND BE WORKING WITH THEM.
10:33:28AM THANK YOU.
10:33:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 61?
10:33:31AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:33:33AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:33:34AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION.
10:33:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THE CLERK WOULD JUST ANNOUNCE THE
10:33:44AM SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
10:33:45AM >> THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 8,
10:33:47AM 2018 AT 6:00 P.M.
10:33:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:33:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM 62.
10:33:57AM REQUEST TO BE CONTINUED?
10:34:04AM ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE OF ITEM 62?
10:34:08AM >> ANDY MAYs, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, HERE SEEKING A
10:34:13AM CONTINUANCE, TO RESOLVE PENDING ISSUES.
10:34:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: TO NOVEMBER 1st?
10:34:23AM >> YES, SIR.
10:34:25AM >> STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.
10:34:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:34:33AM NUMBER 62?
10:34:34AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:34:35AM >> MOVE TO CONTINUE.
10:34:40AM >> SECOND.
10:34:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:34:44AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:34:45AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:34:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS NOVEMBER 1st,
10:34:50AM 2018 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:34:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I JUST ANNOUNCED THAT.
10:34:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
10:35:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 63.
10:35:01AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE ON
10:35:08AM VACATING 18-22 WHICH IS A VACATING A PORTION OF KELSEY
10:35:13AM STREET IN DREW PARK AND I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
10:35:21AM THE STREET TO BE VACATED IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
10:35:25AM THIS ONE FROM CAYUGA, AND FROM MANHATTAN OVER TO BE
10:35:31AM HESPERIDES.
10:35:33AM IT'S UNIMPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND I HAVE PHOTOS.
10:35:38AM THIS IS CHELSEA STREET, WEST OF MANHATTAN, UNDEVELOPED AND
10:35:44AM OVERGROWN.
10:35:45AM THIS IS HESPERIDES, AGAIN UNIMPROVED.
10:35:49AM THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
10:35:55AM CHELSEA ON THE SOUTH.
10:35:56AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
10:35:58AM THERE IS A REQUEST FOR EASEMENT OF WASTEWATER OF CHELSEA
10:36:02AM STREET.
10:36:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:36:06AM PETITIONER?
10:36:06AM >> THOMAS WELCH, 4613 NORTH EQUITY.
10:36:16AM THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR REQUEST.
10:36:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:36:23AM >> YES, SIR, WE ARE.
10:36:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:36:25AM AND ON THE RECORD.
10:36:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE BE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:36:29AM NUMBER 63?
10:36:30AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:36:32AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:36:33AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:36:35AM OPPOSED?
10:36:36AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:36:36AM WOULD YOU READ THAT?
10:36:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ITEM NUMBER 63.
10:36:43AM I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
10:36:45AM ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, A ABANDONING A
10:36:48AM PORTION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WEST CHELSEA STREET UNIMPROVED
10:36:52AM LOCATED SOUTH OF CAYUGA STREET, NORTH OF ALVA STREET, EAST
10:36:56AM OF HESPERIDES STREET AND WEST OF MANHATTAN AVENUE IN REPLAT
10:37:00AM OF DREW PARK IN SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:37:03AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
10:37:06AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT
10:37:09AM RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS MORE
10:37:13AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:37:15AM >> SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:37:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:37:17AM OPPOSED?
10:37:18AM >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
10:37:21AM 1st, 2018 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:37:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 64.
10:37:25AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. THIS ITEM
10:37:29AM VACATING 18-23 IS REQUEST TO VACATE AN ALLEYWAY THAT IS NEAR
10:37:34AM THE RIVER.
10:37:35AM AND NEAR RIVER HEIGHTS AVENUE.
10:37:38AM I HAVE A MAP OF THE OVERHEAD SHOWING THE LOCATION.
10:37:42AM THE PROPERTY IS IN RED AND THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
10:37:45AM THE ALLEY IS A DEAD-END ALLEY GOING NORTH AND RUNS BETWEEN
10:37:56AM HOLLY AND MYRTLE AND RIVER HEIGHTS AVENUE.
10:37:59AM THERE IS A STORMWATER DITCH IN THE ALLEY BUT STORMWATER HAS
10:38:02AM NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST AS LONG AS RESERVED OVER THE
10:38:07AM ALLEY. THIS IS THE ALLEY. THIS IS WEST OF MYRTLE AVENUE.
10:38:11AM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM HOLLY STREET.
10:38:16AM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
10:38:18AM IT'S VACANT RIGHT NOW.
10:38:19AM AND THIS IS RIVER HEIGHTS AVENUE.
10:38:22AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST AND STORMWATER IS
10:38:25AM REQUESTING AN OVERALL EASEMENT ON THE EAST-WEST PORTION
10:38:27AM ONLY.
10:38:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTION BY COUNCIL?
10:38:32AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE LAST THING YOU JUST SAID, YOU SAID THEY
10:38:34AM ARE REQUESTING --
10:38:35AM >> THEY ONLY NEED THE EAST-WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY.
10:38:40AM LIKE AN UPSIDE DOWN T.
10:38:43AM THERE'S NO DRAINAGE.
10:38:44AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:38:47AM THANK YOU.
10:38:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:38:48AM APPLICANT?
10:38:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:38:51AM DOMAIN HOMES.
10:38:52AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:38:54AM I GOT A LETTER FROM A NEIGHBOR IN SUPPORT OF THE VACATION.
10:39:02AM THANK YOU.
10:39:04AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:39:05AM AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, I AM HERE TO ANSWER.
10:39:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THE EASE.
10:39:10AM OF THE STORMWATER?
10:39:12AM >> YES, SIR.
10:39:13AM ABSOLUTELY.
10:39:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST PUT IT ON THE RECORD.
10:39:16AM THANK YOU.
10:39:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:39:18AM NUMBER 64?
10:39:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:39:21AM >> SECOND.
10:39:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:39:25AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:39:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:39:31AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
10:39:33AM DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING AN ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING
10:39:39AM NORTH OF RIVER HEIGHTS AVENUE, EAST OF HOLLY STREET, WEST OF
10:39:42AM MYRTLE AVENUE, AND SOUTH OF DEAD-END, IN RIVER HAVEN
10:39:46AM SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:39:48AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
10:39:51AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT
10:39:54AM RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS MORE
10:39:57AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:39:59AM >> SECOND.
10:40:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:40:02AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:40:04AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:40:06AM OPPOSED?
10:40:06AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:40:11AM NOVEMBER 1st, 2018 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:40:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 65.
10:40:16AM >>REBECCA KERT: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:40:22AM ITEM 65 AND 66 ARE BOTH REQUESTS TO REVIEW DECISIONS BY THE
10:40:27AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR REGARDING VENDORS.
10:40:29AM THE STANDARDS YOU APPLY FOR 65 AND 66 ARE THE SAME BUT THE
10:40:33AM FACTS ARE DIFFERENT.
10:40:34AM WOULD CITY COUNCIL LIKE TO HEAR THEM TOGETHER?
10:40:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT WOULD BE FINE.
10:40:37AM >>REBECCA KERT: I AM GOING TO HAND OUT MOTIONS FORCE BOTH
10:40:44AM APPROVAL AND DENIAL FOR BOTH OF THESE.
10:40:48AM AGAIN, THE UNDERLYING REQUEST IS A SPECIAL USE REQUEST THAT
10:40:53AM REQUIRES WAIVERS FROM THE CRITERIA.
10:40:55AM THEREFORE, IT COULD NOT BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
10:40:58AM BECAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL USE NO HARDSHIP IS REQUIRED.
10:41:01AM CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT
10:41:05AM DEMONSTRATED THAT IF THE WAIVERS ARE GRANTED, IT STILL MEETS
10:41:08AM THE GENERAL CRITERIA, AND THOSE ARE CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF
10:41:11AM REPORT UNDER GENERAL STANDARDS.
10:41:13AM BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY ADVERSE EFFECTS GENERALLY.
10:41:17AM SO ARE THERE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS?
10:41:25AM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:41:28AM I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT FIRST AND SHOW
10:41:31AM THE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IF THAT WORKS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:41:37AM SINCE THEY ARE JOINED TOGETHER.
10:41:39AM THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES BUT THE REQUESTS ARE THE
10:41:41AM SAME.
10:41:42AM DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE?
10:41:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO WE ARE DOING 65 AND 66 TOGETHER?
10:41:52AM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
10:41:53AM BOTH OF THE PROPERTIES ARE DOWNTOWN.
10:41:54AM THEY ARE BOTH APPLYING FOR A VENDOR PERMIT.
10:41:58AM ONE AT 711 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:42:01AM ONE AT 500 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:42:04AM THE ANNUAL VENDOR LIKE REBECCA WAS SAYING, WITH HE SOMEBODY
10:42:07AM REQUESTS A SPECIAL USE IF THEY CANNOT MEET THE CODE,
10:42:10AM ADMINISTRATIVELY STAFF DENSE THE REQUEST.
10:42:12AM THEY THEN COME FOR A REVIEW BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
10:42:16AM SO UNDER SECTION 27-132 WHICH ARE THE REGULATIONS GOVERNING
10:42:22AM INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES ESPECIALLY VENDORS, THE APPLICANT IS
10:42:25AM ASKING FOR A WAIVER FROM THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VENDORS ALLOWED
10:42:30AM ON THE SITE, AND FROM THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED.
10:42:33AM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE VENDOR PER LOT, PETITIONER IS
10:42:38AM ASKING FOR 4 VENDORS, TOTAL OF 400 SQUARE FEET VENDING
10:42:44AM SPACE.
10:42:45AM PROPOSED HOURS FOR VENDORS ARE FROM DAWN TO DUSK.
10:42:49AM THE APPLICANT SEEKING TO STAY OPEN TILL MIDNIGHT.
10:42:54AM AGAIN, ONLY ONE VENDOR IS ALLOWED ON THE SITE.
10:42:57AM THEY ARE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
10:42:58AM MAXIMUM SIZE --
10:43:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO ON EACH PROPERTY?
10:43:05AM >> TOTAL OF FOUR ON EACH PROPERTY.
10:43:08AM >>ERIC COTTON: THERE IS A SIZE RESTRICTION OF 10 BY 20. THE
10:43:10AM APPLICANT IS SEEKING NO SIZE RESTRICTION.
10:43:11AM AGAIN, IT'S AN ANNUAL VENDOR.
10:43:15AM PETITIONER IS SEEKING TO ALLOW IT TO BE UNLIMITED DURATION.
10:43:18AM SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR IT WON'T EXPIRE.
10:43:20AM IT CAN CONTINUE.
10:43:24AM THE FIRST ITEM WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 65, THIS IS 711 NORTH
10:43:34AM FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:43:35AM THIS IS THE POLICE STATION.
10:43:36AM THIS IS SACRED HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH.
10:43:39AM THIS IS THE SITE IN QUESTION.
10:43:43AM THIS IS 711 PARKING LOT.
10:43:49AM AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
10:43:58AM YOU SEE TWO ON THAT SIDE.
10:43:59AM AND THIS IS FOR THE 711 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:44:11AM OUR NEXT ONE IS CATTY-CORNER TO CITY HALL.
10:44:19AM THIS IS THE LOCATION.
10:44:21AM THIS IS THE MARION TRANSIT CENTER.
10:44:24AM THIS IS CITY HALL.
10:44:28AM AGAIN, PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY.
10:44:31AM IT CURRENTLY HAS ONE VENDOR ON-SITE.
10:44:39AM AND THEN THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF REQUEST.
10:44:44AM ONE AT THE INTERSECTION.
10:44:51AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME THAT I WANT TO TRY TO
10:44:53AM ANSWER FOR YOU?
10:44:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT TYPE OF VENDORS ARE THEY?
10:44:57AM FOOD VENDORS?
10:44:58AM >> GENERALLY SPEAKING THEY ARE FOOD VENDORS.
10:45:00AM THE VENDING ORDINANCE DOESN'T RESTRICT IT TO FOOD.
10:45:03AM SOMEBODY COULD VEND SOMETHING ELSE.
10:45:06AM IF THE PETITIONER WAS INTERESTED IN LEASING IT TO SOMEONE
10:45:08AM ELSE, THEY COULD VEND OTHER ITEMS.
10:45:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:45:12AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:45:14AM ALL RIGHT.
10:45:14AM >>REBECCA KERT: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:45:17AM I DID WANT TO CLARIFY ONE OF THE WAIVERS, BECAUSE IT'S A
10:45:21AM LITTLE UNUSUAL.
10:45:22AM ONE OF THE WAIVERS IS TO HAVE THE ANNUAL VENDOR NOT BE
10:45:25AM ANNUAL ANYMORE, WHICH WAS VERY CONFUSING TO ME BUT I DID GO
10:45:28AM BACK AND LOOK AT THE CODE.
10:45:30AM AN ANNUAL VENDOR IS NOT DEFINED AS BY THE TERM ANNUAL.
10:45:36AM AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LISTED CRITERIA THAT THEY
10:45:38AM HAVE TO COME BACK ONCE ANNUALLY, ONCE A YEAR.
10:45:41AM AND BECAUSE IT'S SET UP THAT WAY, AS ONE OF THE CRITERIA,
10:45:44AM THAT CRITERIA IS WAIVABLE.
10:45:46AM IF YOU WAIVE THAT, THE ANNUAL PERMIT WILL NOT HAVE TO COME
10:45:49AM BACK AND BE RENEWED ANYMORE.
10:45:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK?
10:45:53AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID.
10:45:54AM BUT COULD IT BE WRITTEN THAT YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL FOR THREE
10:45:57AM YEARS OR TWO YEARS, SEE IF IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, IF
10:46:01AM THERE'S NO PROBLEM THEN YOU CAN WAIVE THAT?
10:46:04AM I'M THINKING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
10:46:07AM >>REBECCA KERT: CAN I HAVE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT THAT?
10:46:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
10:46:14AM >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU.
10:46:20AM THANK YOU.
10:46:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:46:22AM PETITIONER?
10:46:22AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ACARDI FAMILY.
10:46:33AM BASICALLY THEY OWN THE ENTIRE BLOCK.
10:46:35AM AND SO THEY ARE REQUESTING RELIEF FROM THE CODE WHERE IT
10:46:40AM ONLY PROVIDES FOR ONE VENDOR TO BE ALLOWED PER ZONING LOT.
10:46:46AM AND THE CODE REALLY DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT SOMEONE WOULD
10:46:49AM COME IN AND REQUEST THE ENTIRE BLOCK TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE
10:46:54AM FOOD TRUCKS AND FOOD VENDORS.
10:46:56AM THE MADISON LOT IS 211 FEET BY 105 FEET AND THE KENNEDY LOT
10:47:01AM IS 210 FEET BY 115 FEET.
10:47:05AM SO THERE IS AMPLE SPACE TO PLACE THESE AND STILL PROVIDE FOR
10:47:08AM THE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE IN THE CODE.
10:47:12AM THERE ARE 27 SEPARATE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET IN
10:47:15AM ORDER TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK ON A LOT.
10:47:19AM AND WE MEET EVERY ONE OF THEM EXCEPT ONE.
10:47:22AM AND THE ONE IS THE PROVISION THAT YOU ONLY ARE ALLOWED TO
10:47:27AM HAVE ONE VENDOR TRUCK PER ZONING LOT.
10:47:33AM IN TERMS OF SPECIAL EVENTS, AND LATE NIGHT, IF YOU HAVE A
10:47:37AM SPECIAL EVENT, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO CLOSE AT DUSK.
10:47:40AM AND SO EVERY EVENING HOUR PROVISION FOR A FOOD TRUCK IS
10:47:45AM EXCLUDED FROM THE CODE.
10:47:46AM YOU CAN'T PROVIDE THAT KIND OF FOOD OR ANYTHING.
10:47:50AM OUR ONLY REQUEST IS FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
10:47:52AM IT'S NOT FOR OTHER VENDORS.
10:47:54AM AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SPECIFY, SPECIFY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT
10:47:58AM COUNCIL IS WILLING TO GRANT THIS.
10:48:01AM THE OTHER THING IS WE WILL BE APPLYING -- WE ARE TRYING TO
10:48:05AM WAIVE THE ANNUAL APPLICATION.
10:48:08AM WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE
10:48:11AM FULL PERMIT.
10:48:12AM SO WE WOULD STILL BE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE OTHER CODE,
10:48:15AM MEETING ALL OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS AS APPLIED IN THE CODE.
10:48:18AM WE ASK FOR SOME RELIEF ON THE SETBACKS THAT IT BE ALLOWED TO
10:48:22AM BE 5 FEET.
10:48:23AM AND OBVIOUSLY FOUR UNITS BEING ALLOWED FOR A BLOCK.
10:48:29AM AND THEN THE OPERATING HOURS, STAY BEING ALLOWED TO STAY
10:48:35AM OPEN LATER AT NIGHT.
10:48:36AM A TYPICAL FOOD TRUCK IS LIKE THAT.
10:48:41AM AND THEN THE 5-FOOT SETBACK IS TO ALLOW THE QUEUING TO OCCUR
10:48:45AM OFF OF THE SIDEWALK SO THAT YOU ARE NOT OBSTRUCTING WALKING
10:48:48AM TRAFFIC FROM ANYONE ELSE.
10:48:52AM THE COVERS ARE REQUIRED.
10:48:54AM TIE DOWNS ARE REQUIRED.
10:48:55AM AND AGAIN WE ARE ONLY REQUESTING FOOD.
10:48:57AM SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:49:01AM BUT REALLY, I DON'T THINK THE CODE EVER ANTICIPATED THAT A
10:49:04AM PETITIONER WOULD BE COMING FORWARD TO OWN THE ENTIRE BLOCK.
10:49:07AM AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING.
10:49:10AM TYPICALLY THOSE LOTS ARE 50 FEET WIDE OR SOMETHING LIKE
10:49:12AM THAT, AND NOT -- THESE PEOPLE DO HAVE THEIR PERMITS.
10:49:18AM THE ONE THAT EXISTS ON EACH OF THESE LOTS HAS ITS PERMIT.
10:49:23AM THEY PAY FOR ALL OF THEIR LICENSES AND FEES.
10:49:25AM THEY ARE REGULATED BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF HEALTH CODES AND
10:49:29AM FOOD SERVICE.
10:49:31AM SO AGAIN WE ARE NOT ASKING TO WAIVE ANY OF THE OTHER 27
10:49:35AM REQUIREMENTS.
10:49:35AM ONLY THE ONE THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE FOUR UNITS INSTEAD
10:49:41AM OF ONE.
10:49:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. MICHELINI, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
10:49:45AM I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST THE ONE
10:49:48AM WAIVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE PART OF THIS
10:49:50AM CHAIN.
10:49:50AM IT'S NOT JUST ONE THING THAT YOU ARE CHANGING.
10:49:53AM YOU ARE CHANGING SEVERAL THINGS.
10:49:54AM ONE OF THE I WANTED TO ASK YOU WAS THE TIME LIMIT ISSUE.
10:49:57AM IF I AM READING THE REGULATION CORRECTLY IT DOES SAY VENDORS
10:50:01AM IN THE ABOVE REQUIREMENTS MAY BE APPROVED FOR A ONE-YEAR
10:50:03AM PERIOD AND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR MAY GRANT A ANNUAL
10:50:07AM EXTENSION FOR CONTINUED COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARD ABOVE.
10:50:10AM I MEAN, WHAT'S WRONG WITH KEEPING THAT PARTICULAR STANDARD?
10:50:15AM I MEAN, THERE'S NO RESTRICTION THERE ACTUALLY.
10:50:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY REAPPLY EVERY
10:50:21AM TIME YOU HAVE A NEW VENDOR.
10:50:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:50:24AM BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY A RESTRICTION.
10:50:26AM THAT'S JUST REAPPLYING TO MAKES SURE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO
10:50:28AM HAVE THAT VENDOR.
10:50:29AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, THE VENDORS CHANGE FROM TIME TO
10:50:32AM TIME DEPENDING ON THEIR BUSINESS PROFILES.
10:50:35AM SOME OF THEM ARE SEASONAL.
10:50:37AM AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY AS A NEW VENDOR CAME IN.
10:50:41AM WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH A SPACE BY RIGHT --
10:50:44AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE IS MY QUESTION.
10:50:46AM BECAUSE IT IS NOT A BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS, IT'S A LITTLE
10:50:49AM DIFFERENT, OKAY?
10:50:50AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
10:50:51AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HAVING AN UNLIMITED TIME THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
10:50:54AM TO APPLY AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE
10:50:56AM TO ME BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS.
10:50:59AM SO HAVING -- THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE RESTRICTION ON
10:51:03AM YOUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE TO ME, BECAUSE YOU ARE
10:51:08AM DOING ON A YEARLY BASIS.
10:51:11AM IF IT WERE A MONTHLY BASIS OR A SIX-WEEK OR TEN-MONTH OR
10:51:14AM WHATEVER, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE RIGHT.
10:51:16AM IN THIS CASE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING AN ANNUAL
10:51:19AM APPLICATION?
10:51:20AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE WERE COMMITTING TO AN ANNUAL
10:51:22AM APPLICATION.
10:51:23AM I THINK IT'S -- THE STAFF MISREAD THAT PORTION OF OUR
10:51:27AM REQUEST.
10:51:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE NUMBER 13 AS PART
10:51:31AM OF THE 11 SUB 5 SUB 13, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
10:51:39AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
10:51:39AM WE WERE GOING TO APPLY ANNUALLY FOR THE FOUR UNITS.
10:51:43AM BUT ALL OF THE PROVISIONS WOULD BE STILL IN PLACE FOR FOUR
10:51:48AM UNITS FOR ONE YEAR.
10:51:50AM AND THEN AS THE YEAR CAME AROUND WE WOULD BE APPLY AGAIN FOR
10:51:53AM FOUR UNITS ON THOSE SAME PROPERTIES.
10:51:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S PREDICATED ON THE OTHER CHANGES.
10:51:58AM I'M SAYING THAT WAS ON HERE.
10:52:00AM UNLIMITED PERMIT PERIOD REQUESTED.
10:52:02AM YOU ARE SAYING THAT IS NOT TRUE.
10:52:03AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, I THINK IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING
10:52:07AM IN TERMS OF HOW THAT WAS WRITTEN.
10:52:09AM IT WAS MEANT THAT THE FOUR UNITS WOULD BE PERMANENT, BUT
10:52:13AM THAT YOU WOULD ALWAYS APPLY TO MEET THE CODE ANNUALLY FOR
10:52:17AM THE FOUR UNITS.
10:52:18AM WE DON'T HAVE FOUR UNITS RIGHT NOW.
10:52:20AM BUT AS THEY COME IN, THEY WOULD --
10:52:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M ASKING, YOU ARE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM
10:52:25AM WITH THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN CURRENTLY.
10:52:27AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: RIGHT.
10:52:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AS LONG AS OTHER WAIVERS ARE GRANTED.
10:52:31AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES.
10:52:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ABOUT THAT
10:52:35AM BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING ALL THE STUFF THAT WE ARE
10:52:37AM TALKING ABOUT.
10:52:38AM THANK YOU.
10:52:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:52:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:52:42AM THE NORTH WING YOU LOOK OUT SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE ONE AT THE
10:52:45AM CORNER THE OTHER SIDE OF CITY HALL.
10:52:47AM AND EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON TRAFFIC.
10:52:51AM I SEE PEOPLE COMING IN, LEAVING.
10:52:55AM SO EVIDENTLY THERE'S A DEMAND FOR THIS COMING ON IN THE
10:52:58AM CITY.
10:52:58AM IT'S GROWING.
10:52:59AM IT'S CHANGING.
10:53:01AM IT'S AN AMBIENCE TO PEOPLE WHO WANT A DRINK OR HOTDOG OR
10:53:06AM WHATEVER THEY WANT.
10:53:06AM THE ONLY THING IS, I AM LOOKING AT IT.
10:53:12AM WHEN THE PEOPLE LEAVE, THAT LAND IS STILL ZONED ALCOHOL AND
10:53:16AM WHAT I WANT TO, DO YOU DON'T MIND TRYING IT OUT FOR TWO OR
10:53:19AM THREE YEARS.
10:53:20AM IF IT WORKS FINE, THAT'S FINE E.DON'T WANT TO BE BOGGED DOWN
10:53:25AM IN SOMETHING THAT I AGREE TO TODAY AND SIX MONTHS FROM NOW
10:53:29AM SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS AND THINGS CHANGE DOWNTOWN AS YOU
10:53:32AM WELL KNOW.
10:53:33AM THE DYNAMICS OF DOWNTOWN ARE CHANGING EVERY DAY.
10:53:36AM AND AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COMING IN -- AND I HOPE YOU ALL
10:53:39AM WELL.
10:53:39AM I REALLY DO.
10:53:40AM BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A CARTE BLANCHE NOR LIFE.
10:53:48AM -- FOR LIFE.
10:53:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHO HAS THESE FOOD TRUCKS?
10:53:55AM THE STATE?
10:53:55AM >> YES, SIR.
10:53:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW OFTEN DO THEY DO THAT?
10:54:00AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: MICK THEY HAVE TO RENEW THEIR LICENSE
10:54:02AM EVERY YEAR.
10:54:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO ON-SITE INSPECTIONS?
10:54:06AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
10:54:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETIMES THEY COME IN WITHOUT
10:54:10AM NOTIFICATION AND JUST WALK IN.
10:54:11AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT'S THE SAME WITH A RESTAURANT, FOOD
10:54:14AM LICENSE.
10:54:15AM YOU HAVE TO SIGN A WAIVER SAYING THEY CAN COME INSPECT YOUR
10:54:18AM PREMISES AT ANY TIME.
10:54:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MRS. CAPIN?
10:54:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU KNOW, IN SOME CITIES, THEY HAVE A FOOD
10:54:24AM TRUCK COURT.
10:54:25AM AND I'M WONDERING WHY THE APPLICANT DOESN'T TURN THIS INTO A
10:54:30AM FOOD TRUCK COURT.
10:54:31AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT WASN'T THE INTENTION.
10:54:33AM WE HAVE THE SPACES IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN SO THAT THEY
10:54:36AM ARE ON THE BLOCK FACES.
10:54:38AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO YOU CAN PARK CARS AND RENT THE SPACES TO
10:54:43AM FOOD TRUCKS?
10:54:45AM THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT?
10:54:47AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES.
10:54:48AM IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY TO FOOD TRUCKS.
10:54:49AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M ASKING, WHY NOT?
10:54:54AM WHY ONLY FOUR?
10:54:55AM WHY NOT FILL THE WHOLE BLOCK WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND MAKE IT A
10:54:58AM FOOD TRUCK COURT LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER CITIES?
10:55:00AM I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO GO BE THAT WAY.
10:55:02AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THAT DOOR.
10:55:06AM (LAUGHTER).
10:55:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SOMEBODY SHOULD BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS --
10:55:10AM WE ARE EXCLUDING A LOT OF -- YOU KNOW, THE FOOD TRUCK IS
10:55:16AM SOMETHING THAT IS BE PRETTY POPULAR NOW.
10:55:20AM AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A PLACE FOR IT.
10:55:29AM YIPE JUST NOT INCLINED TO DO THE FOUR.
10:55:31AM I'M NOT INCLINED TO GO THAT ROUTE.
10:55:33AM >> ACARDI.
10:55:47AM I HAVE BEEN
10:55:51AM JOSEPH ACARDI.
10:55:52AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
10:55:56AM >> I DO.
10:55:57AM GOOD MORNING.
10:55:57AM JASON ACARDI.
10:56:00AM I THINK WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME FOOD
10:56:04AM TRUCK, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT RALLIES, BUT A FEW WHERE WE
10:56:09AM HAVE ACTUALLY ADMINISTRATIVELY GONE THROUGH THIS PERMITTING
10:56:11AM PROCESS AND ACTUALLY HAVE DONE THAT WITH A FEW EVENTS,
10:56:15AM NONPROFITS.
10:56:16AM I'M NOT SURE THE DEMAND IS THERE YET FOR THAT.
10:56:20AM BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT TO YOU.
10:56:22AM AND THE PRIMARY USE OF THE PROPERTY IS PARKING.
10:56:25AM AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO OCCASIONALLY HAVE VENDORS.
10:56:29AM AND I TALKED TO SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST
10:56:33AM AND WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY.
10:56:35AM IF THAT DEMAND COMES IN THE FUTURE.
10:56:37AM AND AS STEVE MENTIONED WE ALLOCATED AREAS IN THE PROPERTY
10:56:40AM THAT WOULD WORK THE BEST, AND WE FEEL FOR THOSE TYPES OF
10:56:44AM VENDORS.
10:56:45AM BUT IT COULD BE SOMEBODY THAT'S HAVING AN EVENT.
10:56:48AM IT COULD BE RELATED TO MULTIPLE FOOD TRUCKS.
10:56:52AM SO WE ARE JUST TRYING A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY ON THE PERMITTING
10:56:55AM LEVEL IS ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
10:56:56AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BUT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY ARE WE
10:57:01AM LOOKING AT THOSE SPACES BEING PERMANENTLY FOR FOOD TRUCK AS
10:57:07AM OPPOSED -- EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE GOING TO BE PERMITTED
10:57:09AM ANNUALLY?
10:57:12AM >> IF THERE'S A DEMAND THERE WE WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY
10:57:16AM TO GO TO THE CITY AND ACTUALLY HAVE A PERMIT ALREADY.
10:57:20AM WITH ALL THE VENDORS THAT HAVE COME TO SEE US THE PROCESS
10:57:23AM THEY GO THROUGH TAKES A VERY LONG TIME.
10:57:25AM AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS AS A LANDLORD TO SAY, OKAY,
10:57:29AM IT'S ALREADY SET UP, AND IT'S READY.
10:57:31AM THEY STILL HAVE TO GET THE LICENSE WITH THE STATE AND OTHER
10:57:34AM PEOPLE TO BE A VENDOR.
10:57:38AM SO WE HAD A NONPROFIT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT WAS GOING TO
10:57:41AM BE SIMPLY AS A COMMUNITY TYPE EVENT WHERE THEY WERE GIVING
10:57:44AM AWAY SOMETHING, IF IT'S A MARKETING PIECE OR WHATEVER.
10:57:47AM I THINK IT TOOK THEM TWO MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
10:57:51AM PROCESS JUST TO GET THAT TEN BY TEN AREA.
10:57:54AM SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND CREATE SOME GINNER
10:57:59AM GIST THERE FOR THE PROCESS.
10:58:02AM THAT'S ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
10:58:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO YOU DON'T FEEL THE DEMAND IS THERE FOR A
10:58:06AM FOOD TRUCK COURT?
10:58:07AM THERE'S A DEMAND -- THANK YOU.
10:58:11AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT YBOR CITY AT SOME POINT.
10:58:14AM THEY HAVE A NICE CORNER IN YBOR THAT WE WILL PROBABLY TALK
10:58:16AM TO YOU GUYS ABOUT.
10:58:18AM WE THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THEM.
10:58:19AM BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
10:58:20AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:58:22AM >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION.
10:58:24AM LET'S SAY THAT THE VENDOR WANTED TO COME AND HAVE SUNGLASSES
10:58:29AM OUT OF A TRUCK.
10:58:30AM THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT, TOO, RIGHT?
10:58:33AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT WOULD.
10:58:37AM OUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS A FOOD TRUCK.
10:58:39AM >> BUT I'M SAYING THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY.
10:58:43AM IT COULD BE SUNGLASSES OR HANDBAGS?
10:58:45AM >> IT COULD BE ANY TYPE OF -- IT COULD BE A BOOK VENDOR.
10:58:49AM IT COULD BE ANYBODY.
10:58:50AM IT COULD BE SOMEBODY, YES, COULD BE VERY FLEXIBLE I.
10:58:56AM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:58:57AM UNDER THE VENDOR ORDINANCE, WE DON'T SPECIFY WHAT YOU CAN
10:59:01AM SELL AS LONG AS IT'S LEGAL.
10:59:05AM COACH CONE TO MR. MIRANDA'S QUESTION, YOU CAN'T SELL
10:59:08AM ALCOHOL.
10:59:10AM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
10:59:12AM BEVERAGE IN GLASS CONTAINERS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
10:59:15AM BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT LIMITS YOU TO SAY YOU
10:59:17AM WILL ONLY SELL FOOD AND NOT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
10:59:21AM IF AN APPLICANT COMES IN AND SELLS SUNGLASSES OR WHATEVER
10:59:25AM FROM THE LOCATION, THEY COULD DO THAT.
10:59:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IS THE REASON
10:59:29AM I THINK THE FOUR IS A GOOD IDEA IS BECAUSE YOU REALLY COULD
10:59:33AM HAVE A FLEA MARKET.
10:59:35AM IF IT WERE UNLIMITED.
10:59:37AM SO I THINK THE FOUR IS A GOOD PROTECTION AGAINST THAT.
10:59:42AM >> WE DON'T HAVE FOUR VENDORS ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY AND
10:59:49AM WE ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVELY PERMITTED ON BOTH PROPERTIES AND
10:59:52AM HAS A THREE-YEAR.
10:59:57AM >> AND I'M SURE THE MARKET WILL DRIVE IT.
10:59:59AM THAT'S WHAT ULTIMATELY WILL MAKE THE DECISION OF WHO KNOWS
11:00:03AM WHERE OF.
11:00:04AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I CAN READ TO YOU THE PROTECTIONS
11:00:07AM INCLUDED IN THIS BUT IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL THE STATE,
11:00:09AM LOCAL AND FEDERAL RULES AND GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS.
11:00:12AM THAT'S PART OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT YOU GO TO.
11:00:16AM AND THAT'S CONSTANT.
11:00:17AM AND THE CITY ALSO INSPECTS THESE LOCATIONS.
11:00:20AM AND IF SOMETHING IS NOT ALIGNED, IF IT'S NOT A WELL KEPT
11:00:24AM SITE, IF IT'S TRASHY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY HAVE TO
11:00:27AM CLEAN IT UP IMMEDIATELY.
11:00:29AM I THINK YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES THAT THESE ARE VERY
11:00:32AM NEAT AND CLEAN SITES AND THE VENDORS ARE RESPONSIBLE.
11:00:35AM AND THEY HAVE ALL THEIR LICENSES FROM THE CITY AND THE STATE
11:00:39AM ALL IN EFFECT.
11:00:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AGAIN, I WANT TO SPECIFY, NO OUTDOOR
11:00:51AM AMPLIFIED SOUND IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
11:00:55AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
11:00:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THAT
11:01:05AM PROBLEM THERE.
11:01:09AM WE GET ENOUGH FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S
11:01:12AM GOING ON.
11:01:12AM >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL VENDORS SIGN AN AGREEMENT
11:01:15AM WITH OUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL TO HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS
11:01:18AM FOR INSURANCE AND OTHER APPLICABLE THINGS.
11:01:20AM THEY HAVE TO PULL THE LICENSE FOR PERMITTING.
11:01:22AM SO THE SAME CONDITIONS AS WELL.
11:01:25AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:01:32AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE AGREE.
11:01:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS SITE PLAN CONTROLLED.
11:01:38AM MR. MICKEY, YOU SAID FOR THE RECORD, WITH REGARD TO THAT?
11:01:42AM DOES THE PETITIONER AGREE?
11:01:43AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES.
11:01:44AM PETITIONER AGREES THAT THERE BE NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
11:01:47AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
11:01:48AM THANK YOU.
11:01:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I CAN GET OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT,
11:01:56AM MRS. KERT.
11:01:57AM OKAY.
11:01:58AM HERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT THAT.
11:02:00AM IT SAYS THERE IS NO SIZE RESTRICTION, OKAY.
11:02:04AM BUT IS IT SITE CONTROLLED?
11:02:06AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:02:08AM YES, THERE IS A SITE PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE SPECIAL
11:02:11AM USE.
11:02:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DOESN'T THAT CRICKET EACH OTHER?
11:02:14AM IF IT'S GOT A SITE PLAN AND YOU HAVE NO SIZE RESTRICTION,
11:02:17AM AND HERE IS THE EXAMPLE I AM THINKING ABOUT.
11:02:20AM RIGHT NOW ON THE SITE PLAN ON THE FIRST ONE, WHICH WOULD BE
11:02:24AM ITEM NUMBER 65, I BELIEVE, YOU HAVE GOT -- AND OF THIS IS
11:02:28AM THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.
11:02:33AM AND YOU COULD PUT -- YOU COULD PUT A LINE OF FOOD VENDORS
11:02:39AM ALONG ONE SIDE OF IT, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU STILL HAVE
11:02:43AM ONLY FOUR CONTAINERS.
11:02:44AM OR THE FOUR FOOD TRUCKS, YOU KNOW.
11:02:47AM SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE CONTRADICTIONS.
11:02:50AM IT'S SITE CONTROLLED.
11:02:51AM OR IS IT UNRESTRICTED?
11:02:54AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:02:59AM ERIC COTTON HAS INDICATED HE WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND.
11:03:02AM BUT THERE ARE SIZE RESTRICTIONS AS TO THE LOCATION.
11:03:05AM BUT THERE ISN'T A SIZE WITHIN THE LOCATION AND I THINK THAT
11:03:09AM MAY BE WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
11:03:11AM I WILL ASK MR. COTTON.
11:03:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE LOCATION IS DEFINED BUT THE SIZE OF THE
11:03:16AM THING --
11:03:18AM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:03:19AM THE MAXIMUM NUMBER IS FOUR.
11:03:21AM EACH ONE HAS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF 300 SQUARE FEET.
11:03:24AM A TOTAL OF THE 1200 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ENTIRE SITE.
11:03:26AM SO EACH INDIVIDUAL VENDOR CAN'T EXCEED 300 SQUARE FEET WHICH
11:03:30AM IS ROUGHLY TWO PARKING SPACES.
11:03:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I AM LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT UNDER THE
11:03:35AM REQUEST FOR NO SIZE RESTRICTION MEANING THE MAXIMUM SIZE
11:03:38AM 10-FOOT WIDTH, 24-FOOT LENGTH AND 8 FEET IN HEIGHT.
11:03:42AM MY POINT IS THAT SEEMS LIKE A CONTRADICTION WHEN WE ARE
11:03:45AM TRYING TO TWO SOMETHING THAT'S SITE CONTROLLED.
11:03:50AM GO AHEAD.
11:03:50AM >> THAT'S FOR THE CART ITSELF, FOR THE FOOD TRUCK ITSELF.
11:03:55AM ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE VENDING
11:03:58AM SPACES, THE ACTUAL SPACE CAN'T BE MORE THAN 300 SQUARE FEET.
11:04:02AM SO THE FOOD TRUCK CAN'T EXCEED 300 SQUARE FEET.
11:04:08AM SO THERE'S WELL OVER FOUR SPACES SO THE MAXIMUM AREA THEY
11:04:12AM COULD HAVE FOR ANY VENDOR WILL BE 300 SQUARE FEET.
11:04:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME ISSUES
11:04:18AM WHEN YOU DEAL WITH THIS WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTRADICTION WITHIN
11:04:21AM ITSELF WHICH IS YOU HAVE SUPPOSEDLY IT'S LIMITED TO 300
11:04:24AM SQUARE FEET.
11:04:25AM BUT THEN YOU HAVE BEEN A NONRESTRICTION ASKED FOR.
11:04:29AM THEY ASKED FOR A WAIVER FROM THE MAXIMUM.
11:04:35AM >>ERIC COTTON: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
11:04:36AM THAT'S THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF THE -- BUT THE OVERALL AREA WOULD
11:04:40AM BE LIMITED TO 300 SQUARE FEET.
11:04:43AM YOU HAVE A FOOD TRUCK.
11:04:45AM THE FOOD TRUCK IS BASICALLY 10 BY 20.
11:04:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MY POINT IS WE SHOULD CLEAN THAT UP.
11:04:49AM >> WELL, THE CODE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS A WHOLE.
11:04:54AM WE UNDERSTAND.
11:04:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE A SIZE
11:04:57AM RESTRICTION THAT IS REMOVED WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED
11:05:00AM AND THEN YOU HAVE A SIZE RESTRICTION PUT IN THERE FOR THE
11:05:05AM SAME EXACT THING.
11:05:06AM SO WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
11:05:08AM THE OTHER THING IS, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH DOING PERMANENT,
11:05:15AM YOU KNOW, WITHIN AN AREA THAT'S GOING TO HAVE BRICK AND
11:05:18AM MORTAR BUSINESSES AROUND IT.
11:05:20AM SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
11:05:23AM AND THE ONE QUESTION I DID WANT TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT,
11:05:27AM MR. MICHELINI, IF I COULD, IS THIS COULD NOT BE ACHIEVED
11:05:30AM WITH A BUSINESS USE PERMIT AT ALL AS OPPOSED TO DOING A
11:05:34AM SPECIAL USE ON THE LAND CODE?
11:05:37AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:05:39AM WE HAVE LOOKED INTO A LOT OF YOUR VENDOR REQUIREMENTS COULD
11:05:46AM POTENTIALLY BE MORE APPROPRIATELY PLACED THROUGH A BUSINESS
11:05:48AM PERMIT.
11:05:49AM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT CURRENTLY.
11:05:52AM SOME OF IT IS LAND USE BUT A LOT OF THESE ARE BUSINESS
11:05:55AM OPERATING PERMITS CURRENTLY [RUSTLING PAPERS]
11:05:59AM WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU TO MOVE MANY
11:06:02AM OF THESE.
11:06:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT I AM SAYING IS MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE
11:06:06AM THAT OUT BEFORE WE START DOING THIS, BECAUSE THEN WE SET THE
11:06:10AM PRECEDENT FOR ANY OTHER SPACE THAT'S HERE IN THE CENTRAL
11:06:12AM BUSINESS DISTRICT.
11:06:13AM THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE.
11:06:14AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:06:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I REMEMBER YEARS BACK IN
11:06:19AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE WAS AN EMPTY 20-FOOT LOT OR
11:06:22AM SOMETHING.
11:06:22AM AND THEN WE HAD TO CHANGE THE LAW FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO
11:06:25AM WHEREBY THEY SLAPPED ON SOMETHING ELSE, AND YOU CAN'T GET
11:06:28AM THEM OUT.
11:06:28AM NOBODY KNEW WHO THE VENDOR WAS.
11:06:30AM THE OWNER DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE VENDOR WAS THERE.
11:06:33AM THE OWNER WAS OUT OF TOWN.
11:06:35AM WE ARE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE.
11:06:36AM WE ARE GARBAGE THROWN EVERYWHERE. BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
11:06:38AM THIS IS ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT.
11:06:40AM THIS IS A VENDOR WHO COMES BEFORE US WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY
11:06:44AM SAYING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE CARE,
11:06:50AM CUSTODY AND CONTROL.
11:06:51AM OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE THERE WAS NO CARE, CUSTODY AND
11:06:55AM CONTROL AND MOST OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING CLEANED UP
11:06:57AM ESPECIALLY DOWN ARMENIA AVENUE ALL THE WAY SOUTH OF COLUMBUS
11:07:00AM ALL THE WAY TO BUSCH BOULEVARD.
11:07:03AM AND SOME OF THOSE WERE BEHIND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
11:07:06AM HESPERIDES, ALL THAT AREA, ALL CLEANED UP.
11:07:10AM AND THERE IS A LOT OF -- I UNDERSTAND THE APPREHENSION OF
11:07:14AM THE COUNCIL AND I UNDERSTAND.
11:07:15AM BUT I BELIEVE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ACCORDING TO
11:07:19AM YOU GETTING PERMITTED SO THAT THEY DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE
11:07:23AM GOING TO DO.
11:07:24AM AM I CORRECT TO SOME DEGREE?
11:07:26AM >>REBECCA KERT: YES, SIR.
11:07:27AM AND THIS WILL HAVE A SITE PLAN.
11:07:29AM THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IN SPEAKING
11:07:32AM WITH MR. COTTON, I BELIEVE THE WAY THAT THE WAIVER IS NOT
11:07:36AM GRANTED HE HAS EXPLAINED TO ME THE WAY THAT THIS WOULD WORK
11:07:39AM IS THAT THE WAIVERS WOULD STAY, AND THE OTHER WAIVERS WOULD
11:07:45AM STAY TO THE NUMBER, BUT THEY WOULD COME IN ANNUALLY, AND
11:07:52AM THEY WOULD BE GRANTED ADMINISTRATIVELY FROM THAT POINT
11:07:54AM FORWARD WITH THE WAIVERS.
11:07:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VERY ANY THE BEHAVIORS IN EFFECT --
11:08:00AM >>REBECCA KERT: CORRECT, SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME
11:08:04AM BACK EVERY YEAR FOR A CITY COUNCIL HEARING.
11:08:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:08:08AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: [OFF MICROPHONE] WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO
11:08:14AM BE.
11:08:15AM IN OTHER WORDS, I THOUGHT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THAT YOU COULD
11:08:17AM LINE UP FOUR ALONG ONE STREET.
11:08:21AM THEY HAVE TO BE --
11:08:23AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE BOXES DISCLOSED.
11:08:26AM I THINK THE QUESTION, WHERE THE CONFUSION WAS, THE WAIVER
11:08:30AM HAS TO DO WITH THE TRUCK BEING ABLE TO MOVE WITHIN THAT BOX,
11:08:34AM NOT OUTSIDE OF THAT BOX.
11:08:36AM THOSE BOXES THAT ARE ON THE SITE PLAN ARE SPECIFIC TO THE
11:08:39AM USE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, AND FOR THE FOUR LOCATIONS.
11:08:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE TRUCK MOVES WITHIN
11:08:46AM THAT BOX?
11:08:47AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE FOOD TRUCK WAS
11:08:49AM SMALLER, IT COULD BE PLACED WITHIN THE TERRITORY WITHIN THE
11:08:52AM AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED.
11:08:57AM THE FOUR CORNERS.
11:08:58AM BUT IT COULDN'T GO OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED.
11:09:02AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:09:04AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF IT'S SMALLER.
11:09:05AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IF YOU HAD A SMALL CART VERSUS A BIG
11:09:11AM CART.
11:09:11AM THE SMALL CART HAS TO FIT WITHIN THE BOX.
11:09:14AM BUT IT COULD MOVE WITHIN THAT BOX WITHIN THE OUTLINE.
11:09:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
11:09:23AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
11:09:24AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE CONFUSION
11:09:27AM WAS WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.
11:09:28AM WE CAN'T GO OUTSIDE OF THE BOXES THAT ARE DESIGNATED ON THE
11:09:32AM SITE PLAN.
11:09:32AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:09:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:09:41AM ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE PETITIONER?
11:09:43AM ANYTHING ELSE?
11:09:44AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
11:09:45AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
11:09:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAS
11:09:50AM ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:51AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 65?
11:09:54AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:09:56AM >> SECOND.
11:09:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:09:58AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:09:59AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:10:02AM OPPOSED?
11:10:02AM ALL RIGHT.
11:10:04AM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
11:10:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL TAKE 65.
11:10:08AM I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF
11:10:11AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
11:10:15AM MAKE SURE I GET THE RIGHT ONE HERE.
11:10:20AM 1846.
11:10:26AM 1846.
11:10:27AM BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS
11:10:31AM CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION
11:10:34AM 27-129 SECTION 27-61-B AND 27-127-B, AND YEARLY, IF I
11:10:45AM UNDERSTOOD IT, THE CITY IS GOING TO REVIEW THE APPLICANT
11:10:50AM THAT THEY ADHERE TO THE WAIVERS AS REQUESTED AT THE TIME OF
11:10:53AM APPLICATION.
11:10:53AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I SECOND THAT ON THE SITE PLAN THERE'S NO
11:10:58AM AMPLIFIED SOUND.
11:10:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO AMPLIFIED SOUND AND IN THE DESIGNATED
11:11:04AM AREA.
11:11:04AM IF YOU HAVE 8 BY 10 BUT IT CANNOT EXCEED THE BOUNDARIES OF
11:11:08AM THE SECTION THAT WE READ TODAY.
11:11:12AM >>REBECCA KERT: I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY.
11:11:13AM SO WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW ITEM 13 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
11:11:16AM THAT THEY CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED WITH THE WAIVERS
11:11:18AM GRANTED ANNUALLY.
11:11:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:11:25AM SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:11:26AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:11:27AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:11:29AM OPPOSED?
11:11:33AM ALL RIGHT.
11:11:34AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 66.
11:11:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU COULD MAKE
11:11:39AM A SEPARATE REQUEST FOR PEOPLE ASKING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 66 AND
11:11:42AM A MOTION TO CLOSE ON THAT.
11:11:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I PLANNED TO DO THAT.
11:11:46AM >> I'M SORRY.
11:11:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
11:11:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE THE CHAIRMAN.
11:11:54AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 66.
11:11:56AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 66?
11:12:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:12:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:12:03AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN -- OR MR. MANISCALCO.
11:12:06AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:12:08AM OPPOSED?
11:12:10AM WHO WANTS TO TAKE IT?
11:12:13AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
11:12:16AM DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION VEN-18-47 BECAUSE
11:12:21AM PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THE PETITION IF THE WAIVERS ARE
11:12:25AM GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS
11:12:27AM SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-129, SEE SECTION 27-61-B AND
11:12:34AM 27-127-B-2 AND INCORPORATING THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE THE
11:12:39AM SUBJECT OF THE PRAYER MOTION INCLUDING THE PROHIBITION OF
11:12:43AM AMPLIFIED MUSIC, AND THE CHANGE IN THE YEARLY APPLICATION
11:12:50AM SCHEDULE.
11:12:50AM >> SECOND.
11:12:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:12:54AM SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
11:12:56AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:12:58AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:13:00AM OPPOSED?
11:13:00AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:13:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:13:05AM MR. VIERA, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY AT THIS TIME?
11:13:10AM >> NO.
11:13:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA?
11:13:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID WE DO 67, MOVE TO JANUARY 10th
11:13:17AM AT 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.?
11:13:21AM >>HARRY COHEN: I WILL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:13:24AM MIRANDA AND I WILL SECOND IT.
11:13:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:13:26AM OPPOSED?
11:13:27AM ALL RIGHT.
11:13:27AM MRS. CAPIN.
11:13:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, SIR.
11:13:34AM I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
11:13:35AM CITY COUNCIL MAC AND CHEESE.
11:13:38AM >>HARRY COHEN: THIS IS IMPORTANT.
11:13:44AM (LAUGHTER).
11:13:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE DOING IT NOW.
11:13:49AM (LAUGHTER).
11:13:50AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25, 11:30, IF CITY HALL,
11:13:59AM COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL DISH UP YOUR CHOICE OF REGULAR MAC AND
11:14:04AM CHEESE OR MEATY MAC AND CHEESE AND THEY ARE $5 A BOWL.
11:14:10AM PLEASE COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE UNITED WAY.
11:14:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:14:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:14:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WOW, THIS IS NEWS TO ME.
11:14:21AM I SHOULD HAVE READ IT BEFORE I READ IT.
11:14:24AM (LAUGHTER)
11:14:29AM NEXT THURSDAY.
11:14:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
11:14:32AM ALL RIGHT.
11:14:33AM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:14:36AM MR. COHEN.
11:14:36AM MR. SUAREZ.
11:14:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THE
11:14:40AM DOCUMENTS.
11:14:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:14:42AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:14:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:14:46AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO MAKE ANY COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
11:14:48AM ALL RIGHT.
11:14:49AM WE STAND ADJOURNED.
11:14:51AM
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