TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2018
9:00 A.M.
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>>FRANK REDDICK: I CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:03:49AM ORDER.
9:03:49AM I YIELD TO MR. MANISCALCO.
9:03:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:03:54AM IT IS MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME OUR PROPERTY
9:03:56AM APPRAISER, BOB HENRIQUEZ, NOT A STRANGER HERE.
9:03:59AM YOU ALL KNOW HIM.
9:04:01AM TAMPA NATIVE BORN AND RAISED.
9:04:03AM HE SERVED AS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE.
9:04:05AM HE'S ALSO KNOWN AS "COACH" FOR HIS DEDICATION TO COACHING SO
9:04:10AM MANY STUDENTS OVER THE YEARS IN FOOTBALL.
9:04:12AM AND NOW HE SERVES AS OUR PROPERTY APPRAISER.
9:04:15AM PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:04:18AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:21AM >> THANK YOU.
9:04:22AM PLEASE BOW OUR HEADS.
9:04:23AM HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER HERE TODAY THIS ESTEEMED COUNCIL
9:04:31AM TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
9:04:32AM PLEASE GIVE THEM THE POWER OF YOUR WISDOM TO MAKE SOUND AND
9:04:36AM GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:04:38AM BLESS ALL OF THOSE ATTENDING HERE TODAY AS THEY DO THEIR
9:04:43AM BUSINESS, AND LET US ALWAYS BE MINDFUL IN THESE TURBULENT
9:04:46AM TIMES OF THOSE IN NEED, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE THE
9:04:49AM VICTIMS OF THE HURRICANE IN THE PANHANDLE OR THE FIRES IN
9:04:51AM CALIFORNIA OR OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS OR ANY PETITIONS THAT
9:04:55AM MAY BE OUT THERE.
9:04:56AM HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE STRENGTH AND THE
9:04:59AM BLESSING THAT WE HAVE IN THIS HOLIDAY TIME, AND WE HOPE THAT
9:05:03AM YOU COMFORT THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE AS MANY BLESSINGS.
9:05:07AM WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.
9:05:10AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:05:32AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:05:33AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:05:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:05:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:05:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:05:48AM >> IF I COULD PULL ITEM 49 AND IF WE COULD MOVE IT TO STAFF
9:05:52AM REPORTS AT THE END AND HAVE STAFF PRESENT.
9:05:54AM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON IT.
9:06:00AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:06:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO TO PULL ITEM 49,
9:06:05AM PLACE IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:06:06AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:06:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:06:10AM OPPOSED? OKAY.
9:06:12AM WE'LL GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:06:16AM ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:06:20AM I THOUGHT WE HAD DONE THAT.
9:06:23AM >> SO MOVED.
9:06:24AM >> SECOND.
9:06:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
9:06:26AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:06:27AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:06:29AM ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:06:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT
9:06:53AM THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU, COACH EARL GARCIA.
9:06:57AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CONGRATULATES HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL
9:06:58AM COACH EARL GARCIA ON BECOMING THE WINNINGEST COACH, HIGH
9:07:05AM SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH IN TAMPA BAY HISTORY AND THE
9:07:06AM WINNINGEST HEAD FOOTBALL COACH IN HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL
9:07:06AM HISTORY.
9:07:07AM COACH GARCIA'S LIST OF ACCOLADES INCLUDES BEING NAMED COACH
9:07:10AM OF THE YEAR IN 1993 AND 1999.
9:07:12AM HAS HAD MORE THAN 100 HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL TERRIERS SIGN
9:07:15AM COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS.
9:07:16AM MORE THAN 25 TERRIER FOOTBALL PLAYERS MADE NFL CAMPS AND HAS
9:07:20AM HAD 15 TERRIER FOOTBALL PLAYERS MAKE AND ARE ON AN ACTIVE
9:07:26AM NFL ROSTER.
9:07:27AM COACH, YOUR EXTRAORDINARY TALENT AND DEDICATION TO THE SPORT
9:07:27AM OF FOOTBALL AND PASSION FOR WINNING IS EVIDENT.
9:07:29AM COACH, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF ALL YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
9:07:31AM YOU HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO MAKE US PROUD AND TRULY A
9:07:34AM GIANT IN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.
9:07:35AM THEREFORE, IT IS OUR HONOR TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS
9:07:37AM COMMENDATION ON THE 15th DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2018.
9:07:39AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:07:41AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:07:52AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF
9:07:59AM HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL
9:08:01AM DISTRICT.
9:08:01AM IT'S BEEN A LONG TRIP.
9:08:03AM IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
9:08:04AM IT'S AN HONOR TO KNOW BOBBY HENRIQUEZ, A PRINCETON GRAD.
9:08:11AM MOST OF THE GUYS I GREW UP WITH WERE PRISON GRADS.
9:08:15AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:08:16AM IT'S REALLY GREAT TO KNOW THAT OUR CITY IS IN GREAT HANDS
9:08:19AM WITH YOU PEOPLE.
9:08:19AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:19AM WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AT HILLSBOROUGH TO KEEP THEM OUT
9:08:22AM OF YOUR JAILS.
9:08:23AM THANK YOU.
9:08:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:08:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO
9:08:57AM PRESENT TO MR. BODHI, MR. CAPITANO, AND MR. GUGLIARDO ON THE
9:09:02AM 100th ANNIVERSARY OF THE ITALIAN CLUB IN YBOR CITY.
9:09:05AM THIS IS THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE BUILDING AS WE KNOW IT.
9:09:10AM THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL ITALIAN CLUB WHICH WAS ACROSS THE
9:09:12AM STREET, AND IT GOES BACK TO THE LATE 1800s.
9:09:14AM OF COURSE, WITH THE FIRST WAVE OF IMMIGRATION THAT CAME TO
9:09:17AM TAMPA AND YBOR CITY THROUGH ITALY, SICILY, CUBA, AND SPAIN
9:09:22AM AND WHATNOT, AND GERMANY AS WELL.
9:09:24AM I'LL JUST READ HERE.
9:09:25AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES AND CONGRATULATES THE
9:09:27AM ITALIAN CLUB AND YBOR CITY ON THEIR 100th ANNIVERSARY AND
9:09:31AM FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
9:09:34AM FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS, THE ITALIAN CLUBHOUSE IN YBOR CITY
9:09:37AM HAS BEEN A SOCIAL HUB OF THE LARGE ITALIAN COMMUNITY.
9:09:40AM THROUGH ITS HALL, BALLROOM, AND CANTINA HAVE PASSED
9:09:42AM INTERNATIONAL FAMOUS ARTISTS, DIPLOMATS, PUBLIC AND
9:09:46AM POLITICAL LEADERS.
9:09:47AM THE ITALIAN CLUB IN HISTORIC YBOR CITY IS A SIGNIFICANT
9:09:49AM LANDMARK OF THE VIGOROUS PAST OF EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS, THEIR
9:09:54AM CHILDREN AND THE RICH LEGACY OF AMERICANISM.
9:09:57AM JOE CAPITANO SENIOR, SAL GUGLIARDO, AND THE REST OF THE
9:09:57AM PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE BOARD AND LEADERS OF THE ITALIAN
9:09:59AM CLUB, WE'RE PROUD OF ALL YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
9:10:01AM YOU HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE VALUABLE LEADERS IN OUR
9:10:04AM COMMUNITY AND ASSETS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:10:06AM THEREFORE, IT IS OUR HONOR TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS
9:10:08AM COMMENDATION ON THE 15th DAY OF NOVEMBER 2018.
9:10:10AM AND A FUN FACT, THE ARCHITECT WHO DESIGNED THE TAMPA CITY
9:10:16AM HALL BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN ALSO DID THE ITALIAN CLUB AND
9:10:21AM CENTRO ASTURIANO AND THE CUBAN CLUB.
9:10:24AM WE HAVE THIS CONNECTION WITH THE WORK M. LEO ELLIOTT, WHOSE
9:10:26AM NAME IS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING, BUT WHO HAS MADE A
9:10:29AM SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO MANY OF OUR HISTORICAL BUILDINGS IN
9:10:31AM THE AREA.
9:10:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:10:38AM >> ON BEHALF OF THE ITALIAN CLUB AND OUR 750 MEMBERS, I WANT
9:10:50AM TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION.
9:10:52AM IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR
9:10:56AM HERITAGE.
9:10:56AM WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE IN YBOR CITY, AND WE'RE PROUD TO
9:11:00AM BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
9:11:02AM WE THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
9:11:04AM THANK YOU.
9:11:06AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:11:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:11:35AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:11:37AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
9:11:39AM I'M HERE TO PRESENT SOME APPLICANTS FOR ITEM NUMBER 3
9:11:46AM THROUGH 6.
9:11:48AM OUR FIRST ITEM WOULD BE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
9:11:53AM WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WHO IS THE INCUMBENT, IF HE'S HERE.
9:12:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:12:07AM IT'S NICE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
9:12:09AM I'M ERIC SCHILLER.
9:12:11AM I'M AN INCUMBENT ON THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, AND I'M
9:12:18AM LOOKING TO DO ANOTHER TERM.
9:12:22AM I THINK I BRING SOME QUALIFICATIONS.
9:12:25AM I'VE BEEN OVER 30 YEARS IN YBOR CITY WORKING.
9:12:29AM I AM A BUSINESS PERSON, AND I DO NOT PURPORT TO KNOW MUCH
9:12:34AM ABOUT ARCHITECTURE OTHER THAN WHAT I LIKE.
9:12:37AM AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK I WOULD BRING SOME DIVERSITY,
9:12:41AM IF YOU CHOOSE TO CONTINUE MY TENURE ON THE BARRIO.
9:12:45AM REALLY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
9:12:47AM THANK YOU.
9:12:55AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
9:12:56AM IS THERE AN APPROVAL.
9:12:58AM >> I SO MOVE.
9:12:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:13:01AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
9:13:02AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:13:03AM OPPOSED?
9:13:05AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL, ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4 FOR THE
9:13:08AM PLANNING COMMISSION, WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS, MS. JENNIFER
9:13:14AM LYNN WILLMAN.
9:13:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:13:26AM I'M JENNIFER WILLMAN.
9:13:28AM I APPLIED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION POSITION.
9:13:32AM I SEE THIS AS A FULL-CIRCLE MOMENT FOR ME SINCE MY PLANNING
9:13:37AM CAREER ACTUALLY STARTED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:13:40AM BACK IN 1996, I WAS AN INTERN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
9:13:46AM AND I REALLY ENJOYED MY TIME THERE.
9:13:48AM AND I WAS ACTUALLY AN INTERN WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA WATER
9:13:51AM DEPARTMENT AS WELL THAT YEAR.
9:13:53AM AND THAT WAS AFTER I GRADUATED FROM USF.
9:13:57AM AND I DECIDED AFTER TRYING SOME JOBS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL
9:14:01AM FOR PLANNING, ACTUALLY.
9:14:02AM AND I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PLANNING, WHICH I EARNED IN
9:14:06AM THE YEAR 2000.
9:14:07AM I MADE MY WAY BACK TO TAMPA IN 2004, AND THAT YEAR I BECAME
9:14:12AM A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.
9:14:16AM I OFFER A WELL-ROUNDED PERSPECTIVE HAVING BEEN A PLANNER
9:14:23AM WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND A NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE HERE
9:14:25AM IN TAMPA.
9:14:26AM AND I WAS A PLANNING CONSULTANT IN TAMPA FOR 14 YEARS, MOST
9:14:31AM RECENTLY WITH STANTEC.
9:14:32AM AS A CONSULTANT, MY CLIENTS INCLUDED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND
9:14:36AM PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
9:14:38AM I WORKED ON THE CITY'S CHANNEL DISTRICT STRATEGIC ACTION
9:14:41AM PLAN BACK IN THE DAY, AND LATER WITH JEFF VINIK'S WATER
9:14:45AM STREET DEVELOPMENT.
9:14:46AM I PROCESSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR DEVELOPERS.
9:14:51AM I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE POLICIES IN ALL OF THE
9:14:53AM COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
9:14:54AM THERE ARE FOUR THAT I WOULD BE REVIEWING IN THIS POSITION.
9:14:59AM I LEFT MY EMPLOYMENT WITH STANTEC EARLIER THIS YEAR TO TRY
9:15:03AM SOME NEW THINGS, TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH FAMILY, AND TO
9:15:09AM FOCUS ON MY VOLUNTEER WORK WITH THE PALMETTO BEACH COMMUNITY
9:15:15AM ASSOCIATION AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
9:15:16AM WITH MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK I CAN
9:15:18AM HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY WELL AS A
9:15:22AM PLANNING COMMISSIONER, NOT BEING ENCUMBERED AS A CONSULTANT
9:15:26AM ANYMORE, I'M FULLY FREE, UNBIASED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY,
9:15:31AM AND I THINK I CAN DO A GOOD JOB AT THAT.
9:15:35AM I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I WOULD BE HONORED TO
9:15:37AM SERVE AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
9:15:39AM THANK YOU.
9:15:43AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
9:15:44AM WE HAVE ALSO CHRISTOPHER MOORMAN.
9:15:51AM >> HI.
9:15:51AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.
9:15:55AM MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER MOORMAN.
9:15:57AM I AM A MASTERS OF URBAN REGIONAL PLANNING GRADUATE STUDENT
9:16:00AM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA CURRENTLY.
9:16:02AM I ALSO AM DOING A GRADUATE CERTIFICATE IN SUSTAINABLE
9:16:07AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:16:07AM MY PLANNING WORKING EXPERIENCE.
9:16:10AM I'VE ALSO WORKED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A PLANNING
9:16:13AM FELLOW LAST YEAR.
9:16:14AM I WORKED ON CREATING GUIDELINES AND AN APPLICATION PROCESS
9:16:19AM FOR PARKLETS, WHICH ARE MINI-CITY PARKS THAT TAKE OVER
9:16:23AM ON-STREET PARKING SPACE AS WELL AS WORKING ON VARIOUS
9:16:25AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THE CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE
9:16:29AM AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:16:32AM I ALSO WORKED THE SUMMER AT THE AMERICAN PLANNING
9:16:36AM ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE LARGEST NETWORK OF PROFESSIONAL
9:16:39AM PLANNERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
9:16:42AM THEIR GREAT PLACES IN AMERICA CAMPAIGN WHERE I REVIEWED
9:16:45AM DIFFERENT CANDIDATES AS TO WHY THEY REPRESENT GOOD PLANNING
9:16:48AM PRACTICES.
9:16:49AM THAT APA WAS LOOKING FOR.
9:16:53AM I ALSO CURRENTLY WORK AT THE CENTER FOR URBAN TRANSPORTATION
9:16:56AM RESEARCH AT USF, WHERE I WORK ON VARIOUS MOBILITY STUDIES.
9:17:00AM CURRENTLY ONE OF THE STUDIES I'M WORKING ON IS WORKING ON A
9:17:04AM MOBILITY STUDY FOR SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHERE WE'RE
9:17:08AM LOOKING AT THE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN THAT
9:17:11AM AREA.
9:17:11AM I FEEL I'M A WELL-ROUNDED CANDIDATE FOR THIS POSITION
9:17:16AM BECAUSE I BRING A DIFFERENT, A YOUNG, NEW PERSPECTIVE TO THE
9:17:20AM PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:17:20AM I ALSO HAVE THE PLANNING KNOWLEDGE COMING FROM ACADEMIA AS
9:17:24AM WELL AS SOME WORKING EXPERIENCE AS WELL.
9:17:26AM SO I THINK YOU -- AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER ME FOR THIS
9:17:32AM POSITION.
9:17:37AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
9:17:39AM COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A BALLOT.
9:17:40AM IF YOU CAN COMPLETE YOUR BALLOT AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE
9:17:47AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
9:17:50AM WE HAVE THE INCUMBENT ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
9:17:55AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, FOR
9:18:00AM WHICH POSITION IS THIS?
9:18:01AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL VACANCIES, WHICH POSITION IS THIS
9:18:05AM FOR?
9:18:05AM IS IT FOR THE ARCHAEOLOGIST?
9:18:07AM WHICH ONE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?
9:18:13AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IT IS THE VACANT POSITION DUE TO
9:18:16AM RESIGNATION OF DANIEL METZGER.
9:18:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER ONE, YEAH.
9:18:30AM IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE THREE VACANT POSITIONS.
9:18:33AM ONE IS AN ALTERNATE, ONE IS AN ARCHAEOLOGIST DESIGNATION AND
9:18:37AM THE OTHER IS URBAN PLANNER ARCHITECT DESIGNATION.
9:18:40AM I'M CURIOUS --
9:18:45AM >> ARCHAEOLOGIST.
9:18:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
9:18:47AM IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN HERE.
9:18:48AM BECAUSE THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM HERE.
9:19:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT THE -- OH, THAT'S THE --
9:19:06AM ARCHAEOLOGIST IS THE DESIGNATION THAT'S ON THE RESOLUTION
9:19:11AM THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
9:19:13AM I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
9:19:14AM YOU DO HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT'S PREPARED.
9:19:19AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: AND WE WILL READVERTISE FOR THE
9:19:25AM OTHER POSITIONS.
9:19:29AM ON TO NUMBER 5, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, THE
9:19:35AM INCUMBENT --
9:19:40AM [NO ENCODER]
9:20:18AM [NO ENCODER]
9:20:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: -- ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
9:20:29AM >> THANK YOU, CLERK.
9:20:33AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: ON TO NUMBER 6, THIS IS FOR THE
9:20:38AM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
9:20:39AM WE HAVE ONE POSITION FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
9:20:45AM THE APPLICANT, MICHAEL DEPAPPA.
9:20:53AM >> HI, GOOD MORNING.
9:20:54AM THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.
9:20:56AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL DEPAPPA.
9:20:58AM I MOVED TO TAMPA ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FROM PINELLAS COUNTY.
9:21:02AM I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF LARGO FOR TEN YEARS AS THE
9:21:05AM ASSISTANT PARK SUPERINTENDENT IN CHARGE OF OBVIOUSLY THE
9:21:10AM PARK SYSTEM AND ALSO DOING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, CODE REWRITES
9:21:15AM AND THOSE THINGS.
9:21:16AM I'VE BEEN A CERTIFIED ARBORIST FOR TEN YEARS.
9:21:18AM I'VE BEEN A CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL SPECIALIST FOR FIVE YEARS,
9:21:22AM AND I'M A CERTIFIED PARKS AND RECS PROFESSIONAL.
9:21:25AM I CURRENTLY WORK FOR THE CITY -- I'M SORRY, FOR PINELLAS
9:21:28AM COUNTY GOVERNMENT WHERE I'VE BEEN FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE
9:21:32AM YEARS.
9:21:33AM I'M AN URBAN FORESTER.
9:21:35AM I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND I JUST GRADUATED FROM THE
9:21:40AM MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY, NUMBER 8.
9:21:44AM AND JUST LOOKING TO CONTINUE MY SERVICE WITH GOVERNMENT.
9:21:48AM THANK YOU.
9:21:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR, IT'S ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR
9:21:57AM ITEM.
9:21:58AM MADAM CLERK, WE HAVE IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL, WE HAVE A
9:22:02AM DIFFERENT APPLICANT'S NAME IN HERE, NOT THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE
9:22:06AM US.
9:22:10AM >> MICHAEL DEPAPPA.
9:22:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH.
9:22:13AM THAT IS NOT THE APPLICANT'S INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN THE
9:22:15AM BACKUP MATERIAL.
9:22:16AM ITEM NUMBER 6.
9:22:24AM >> THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
9:22:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HAVE A PERSON NAMED KELSEY TRUJEQUE.
9:22:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THE PERSON WHO RESIGNED WHOSE SEAT
9:22:41AM IS VACANT THAT IS ASKED TO BE FILLED.
9:22:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I UNDERSTAND THAT, MR. SHELBY.
9:22:45AM WE HAVE THEIR APPLICATION.
9:22:46AM IT'S SHOWN AS NOT ONLY THE INCUMBENT BUT THE APPLICANT.
9:22:49AM SO THERE IS NO INFORMATION FOR MR. DEPAPPA.
9:22:56AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON DEPAPPA?
9:23:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW DO YOU WISH TO HANDLE THAT, COUNCIL?
9:23:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU KNOW, IF I COULD, CHAIR, IF HE QUALIFIES
9:23:14AM AS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT OR URBAN FORESTER, WHICH IT SOUNDS
9:23:18AM LIKE HE DOES, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MOVING THE RESOLUTION
9:23:20AM TO ALLOW HIM TO GO FORWARD AS A MEMBER OF THE VARIANCE
9:23:22AM REVIEW BOARD, SINCE HE'S THE ONLY APPLICANT.
9:23:27AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE ONLY APPLICANT THAT SEEMS TO BE
9:23:29AM QUALIFIED.
9:23:33AM >>HARRY COHEN: I WILL SECOND MR. SUAREZ'S MOTION.
9:23:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:23:38AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:23:39AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:23:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW
9:23:47AM HOW THAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENED.
9:23:48AM THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED FROM THE CLERK, FROM MS. MARSHALL
9:23:51AM WAS CORRECT.
9:23:52AM A RESO IS PREPARED WITH MR. DEPAPPA'S NAME, AND THE POSITION
9:23:58AM IS FOR THE ROLE OF URBAN FORESTER.
9:24:06AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT'S CORRECT THERE, BUT NOT CORRECT HERE.
9:24:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS OPPOSED TO WHAT MS. MARSHALL SENT TO ME,
9:24:15AM WHICH WAS THE APPLICATION.
9:24:16AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ANYWAY, WE MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS.
9:24:19AM YOU'RE IT.
9:24:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:24:22AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:24:23AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, AYE. OPPOSED?
9:24:26AM ANYTHING ELSE?
9:24:45AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL, GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING
9:24:47AM COMMISSION, THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTED IS JENNIFER LYNN
9:24:51AM WILLMAN.
9:24:52AM THANK YOU.
9:24:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:25:00AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL.
9:25:02AM YOU ARE FRISKY TODAY.
9:25:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL TRY TO CONTROL MYSELF.
9:25:11AM BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF A MOTION COULD BE MADE
9:25:16AM FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION FOR THAT TO
9:25:18AM COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
9:25:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO MOVED.
9:25:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DIDN'T WE JUST DO A RESOLUTION?
9:25:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:25:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DID WE DO A RESOLUTION FOR THE -- NOT
9:25:34AM NUMBER 4.
9:25:35AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:25:38AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:25:40AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE. OPPOSED?
9:25:44AM ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE?
9:25:45AM GO TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
9:26:02AM >> LISA SILVA, METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION STAFF.
9:26:07AM I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU REALLY BROAD HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR METRO
9:26:12AM QUEST LONG-TERM TRANSPORTATION SURVEY RESULTS.
9:26:15AM I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF DATA OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAD TO
9:26:19AM SAY.
9:26:19AM I'VE BEEN TOLD TO DO THE CONDENSED VERSION.
9:26:24AM FIRST UP, WE GOT THE WORD OUT BIG AND BROADLY.
9:26:46AM WE HAD VIDEOS ON OUR WEBSITE, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS
9:26:50AM PARTICIPATE IN RADIO INTERVIEWS.
9:26:53AM WE ATTENDED FLORIDA'S LARGEST HOME SHOW OVER THE LABOR DAY
9:26:56AM WEEKEND AND BACK TO SCHOOL BASH AT THE RAYMOND JAMES
9:27:00AM STADIUM.
9:27:01AM SOCIAL MEDIA WAS OUR FRIEND.
9:27:02AM WE USED IT EXTENSIVELY EVEN BUYING ADS ON Facebook AND
9:27:08AM TWITTER.
9:27:08AM WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S
9:27:12AM TRIM NOTICE.
9:27:17AM INFORMATION TO DO THE SURVEY WENT OUT TO EVERY PROPERTY
9:27:20AM OWNER AND BUSINESS OWNER.
9:27:22AM WE PARTNERED WITH OUR OTHER COUNTIES -- PASCO AND PINELLAS
9:27:25AM COUNTIES.
9:27:26AM THIS WAS A TRI-COUNTY REGIONAL APPROACH TO UPDATING OUR
9:27:31AM LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
9:27:32AM I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS
9:27:35AM ARE REQUIRED TO DO THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS BY LAW.
9:27:39AM OUR LAST UPDATE REFLECTED THE YEAR 2040, AND THIS ONE IS FOR
9:27:44AM OUR 2045 HORIZON.
9:27:47AM OUR PARTNERS USED APPS AND UTILITY NOTICE MAIL-OUTS.
9:27:54AM WE WERE VERY COMMITTED TO GETTING EVERY SINGLE PERSON THEIR
9:27:57AM SAY IN THE UPDATE.
9:27:59AM WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A VERY EFFECTIVE ONLINE INTERACTIVE
9:28:04AM SURVEY TOOL.
9:28:07AM WE ALSO THEN DESIGNED A PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT
9:28:10AM MIMICKED THIS SO THAT WE COULD GO OUT TO COMMUNITY GROUPS.
9:28:13AM WE WENT TO EVERY CHAMBER, EVERY ROTARY, EVERY COMMITTEE
9:28:18AM MEETING, EVERY GROUPING OF SMALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, ALL
9:28:20AM AROUND THE COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD GET THEIR
9:28:23AM FEEDBACK.
9:28:24AM WITH THAT WAS A PAPER COPY DESIGNED THAT WAY SO THAT WE
9:28:28AM COULD PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK ONLINE.
9:28:32AM WE DID THAT SAME PowerPoint IN SPANISH WITH A SPANISH
9:28:36AM PAPER VERSION SO THAT WE COULD GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM OUR
9:28:42AM OTHER DEMOGRAPHICS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
9:28:44AM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION IS WE'LL
9:28:50AM SYNTHESIZE IT INTO A HYBRID SCENARIO AND THEN BRING THAT
9:28:53AM BACK OUT AND TEST IT.
9:28:55AM THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET ADOPTED IN LATE --
9:29:00AM LATER THIS YEAR, ACTUALLY, NOVEMBER.
9:29:01AM NOVEMBER 2019.
9:29:05AM IT'S ALREADY THIS YEAR.
9:29:07AM HERE ARE THE RESULTS.
9:29:08AM WE DID JULY 31st THROUGH OCTOBER 1st.
9:29:15AM IT'S ROUGHLY A TWO-MONTH PERIOD.
9:29:17AM WE HAD 17,000 VISITORS TO OUR WEBSITE.
9:29:20AM APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THEM COMPLETED THE SURVEY, WHICH IS
9:29:23AM INDUSTRY TYPICAL.
9:29:25AM WE HAD 10,471 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, SO PEOPLE WENT INTO THE
9:29:31AM OPTION TO WRITE US COMMENTS.
9:29:33AM WE ARE STILL SYNTHESIZING THOSE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
9:29:37AM COMMENTS.
9:29:37AM 5,600 INDIVIDUAL E-MAILS WERE SUBMITTED.
9:29:41AM IF YOU SUBMITTED AN E-MAIL, THEN YOU WERE ENTERED INTO OUR
9:29:44AM INCENTIVE FOR BUCS TICKETS, LIGHTNING TICKETS AND ARTS
9:29:48AM TICKETS TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO COMPLETE IT.
9:29:51AM FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ALONE, 3,330 INDIVIDUAL E-MAILS TO
9:29:54AM HELP US REACH BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY --
9:29:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD INTERRUPT YOU FOR JUST A SECOND.
9:29:59AM COULD I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION?
9:30:01AM HOW DO YOU CONTROL FOR PARTICIPANTS ONLINE AS TO WHERE THEY
9:30:04AM LIVE?
9:30:06AM >> ON THE FIFTH SCREEN WAS DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.
9:30:10AM SO THEY PROVIDED A ZIP CODE.
9:30:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:30:13AM HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE ACTUALLY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY
9:30:16AM HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY VERSUS SOMEPLACE ELSE?
9:30:19AM >> WE DON'T.
9:30:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE REASON I'M ASKING IS SOMETIMES WHEN THESE
9:30:24AM TYPE OF THINGS GO ONLINE, PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY STUFF THE
9:30:27AM BALLOT BOXES FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT IP LOCATIONS ACROSS THE
9:30:31AM COUNTRY OR THE WORLD, DEPENDING ON WHO IT IS.
9:30:35AM I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY CONTROL FOR THAT AT ALL.
9:30:38AM >> METRO QUEST DOES HAVE A CONTROL FOR THAT.
9:30:41AM THEY LOOK FOR THAT AND WE DID HAVE SOMEONE TRYING TO WIN THE
9:30:44AM TICKETS, SO THEY SUBMITTED 85 TIMES AND THEIR INFORMATION
9:30:48AM WAS NOT UNIQUE SURVEY DATA SO THAT WAS BACKED OUT OF IT.
9:30:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THERE'S NO CONTROL FOR WHERE THEY LIVE.
9:30:57AM OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO KNOW THE OPINIONS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE
9:30:59AM IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY VERSUS POLK COUNTY, PASCO OR
9:31:01AM PINELLAS.
9:31:03AM >> SOMEBODY IN CHICAGO, OUR WEBSITE SURVEY, YES, THEY COULD
9:31:09AM PARTICIPATE IN IT AND SEVERAL PEOPLE PROVIDE ZIP CODES.
9:31:13AM THEY JUST PARTICIPATED IN IT.
9:31:15AM THEY HEARD ABOUT IT AND PARTICIPATED IN IT, WHICH IS FINE.
9:31:19AM DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION IS OPTIONAL.
9:31:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION, DO YOU
9:31:24AM THEN SIFT IT THROUGH AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF ALGORITHM
9:31:27AM TO TRY AND CONTROL FOR THAT AFTERWARDS?
9:31:30AM >> YES.
9:31:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT DO YOU DO?
9:31:33AM >> WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE SPECIFIC TECHNICAL DETAILS.
9:31:35AM WE DID ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OF OUR CONSULTANT AND THEY
9:31:38AM EXPLAINED ALL THAT AND THEY SAID WE SHOULD FEEL VERY
9:31:42AM CONFIDENT WITH OUR DATA.
9:31:45AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AS CONFIDENT AS A RECOUNT ON ELECTIONS?
9:31:48AM I'M JUST CURIOUS.
9:31:49AM I'M JUST KIDDING.
9:31:50AM HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
9:31:55AM BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONE THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE ONLINE
9:31:56AM STUFF IS THAT WE DON'T CONTROL FOR WHO IS ACTUALLY GIVING US
9:31:58AM OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS OPPOSED TO THE
9:31:59AM REAL CITIZENS WHO LIVE HERE.
9:32:01AM >> RIGHT, BUT HIJACKING OF THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION AND
9:32:04AM LOOKED AT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, AND THEN THOSE SKEPTICAL
9:32:10AM RESULTS WERE WEEDED OUT AT THE END AND NOT COUNTED.
9:32:13AM YOU WILL BE GETTING A DETAILED VERSION AT THE MPO MEETING,
9:32:17AM DECEMBER 4th, AND I'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT HANDLED AND
9:32:21AM ANSWERED.
9:32:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MAKE SURE YOU SPREAD IT OUT TO US, TOO, THE
9:32:25AM MEMBERS NOT ON THE MPO.
9:32:26AM >> YES, I KNOW YOU WILL BE THERE.
9:32:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WON'T BE AT THE MPO MEETING.
9:32:30AM I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE.
9:32:32AM THANK YOU.
9:32:32AM >> WE SET AN ALL-TIME U.S. RECORD FOR THIS COMPANY.
9:32:38AM WE HAD MORE, BY 2,200 MORE PARTICIPANTS IN OUR SURVEY THAN
9:32:44AM THEY EVER HAD IN ANY OTHER SURVEY, INCLUDING A STATEWIDE
9:32:48AM LRPT.
9:32:49AM SO WE FELT VERY GOOD ABOUT THE EXTENSIVE OUTREACH THAT WE
9:32:53AM RECEIVED.
9:32:54AM IT WAS CONTINUOUS AND THROUGHOUT.
9:32:55AM WE HAD 33 DAYS WHERE WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED PARTICIPANTS.
9:32:58AM 500 ON ONE DAY.
9:32:59AM THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE TRIM NOTICE.
9:33:01AM WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
9:33:05AM PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
9:33:07AM IT SHOWS WHERE THE CODES OCCURRED.
9:33:09AM THE BRIGHTER REDDER, ORANGE CONCENTRATIONS IN HILLSBOROUGH
9:33:14AM COUNTY, SO WE HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION THERE.
9:33:19AM YOU CAN SEE WE HAD 4,000 OF THOSE THAT PROVIDED ZIP CODES IN
9:33:22AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND OUR TWO PARTNERS ALSO HAD GREAT
9:33:24AM COVERAGE FOR THEIR DENSITIES.
9:33:25AM WE HAD GREAT COVERAGE IN OUR DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES AND
9:33:32AM INCOME LEVELS.
9:33:32AM THAT WAS ALSO A DEMOGRAPHIC AND SOCIAL INFORMATION PROVIDED
9:33:37AM ON THE FIFTH PAGE.
9:33:39AM WHAT DID WE ASK THEM AND WHAT DID THEY SAY?
9:33:44AM WE ASKED THEM ABOUT THEIR TOP PRIORITIES.
9:33:47AM THESE WERE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
9:33:49AM I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THEY SAID.
9:33:52AM BASICALLY ALL COUNTIES AND EVERYONE SAID THEIR PRIORITIES
9:33:55AM ARE TRAFFIC JAMS AND ALTERNATIVES TO DRIVING.
9:33:58AM THE SECOND TIER OF PRIORITIES WAS OPEN SPACE, GREENSPACE AND
9:34:04AM SHORTER COMMUTES.
9:34:06AM THE UNIQUENESS IS PINELLAS PROPOSED ALTERNATIVES FOR DRIVING
9:34:09AM OVER TRAFFIC JAMS.
9:34:10AM THEY HAD A LITTLE FLIP-FLOP.
9:34:12AM GIVEN THEY ARE A PENINSULA, NOT SURPRISED THAT STORM
9:34:16AM VULNERABILITY WAS A PRIORITY FOR THEM.
9:34:17AM PASCO PRIORITIZED SHORTER COMMUTES OVER OPEN SPACE,
9:34:20AM GREENSPACE.
9:34:21AM NEXT ARE THE SCENARIOS.
9:34:23AM WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
9:34:26AM THE FIRST ONE WAS BASED ON NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND TRENDS.
9:34:30AM SO MORE OF OUR ROADWAYS FOCUS.
9:34:32AM THIS ONE WAS KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
9:34:35AM YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE LEFT THERE THAT THE 4s AND 5s
9:34:39AM BEING MOST APPEALING AND THE 1s AND 2s BEING LEAST
9:34:42AM APPEALING, AND THE 3s, KIND OF ALL LINE UP.
9:34:45AM IT WAS AN AVERAGE, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT HILLSBOROUGH,
9:34:48AM PINELLAS, AND PASCO WERE VERY SIMILAR ACROSS THE BOARD.
9:34:53AM SCENARIO B WAS OUR EXPRESS LANES, BELTWAY, COMPLETE THE LOOP
9:34:59AM SCENARIO, AND IT GOT LOTS OF 1s AND 2s.
9:35:03AM A LOT MORE PEOPLE FOUND IT LESS FAVORABLE THAN MORE
9:35:06AM FAVORABLE.
9:35:11AM SCENARIO C, ARE YOU READY?
9:35:13AM DRUM ROLL.
9:35:14AM SCENARIO C WAS THE TRANSIT FOCUS.
9:35:18AM THE COMMUNITY ACROSS THE BOARD GAVE 4s AND 5s.
9:35:22AM IT SCORED 75% ON AVERAGE, AND ITS RATING WAS IN THE 4s
9:35:33AM INSTEAD OF THE 2s.
9:35:34AM PASCO COUNTY, MORE RURAL NEIGHBOR, GAVE IT A VERY SIMILAR
9:35:38AM SCORE.
9:35:39AM THOSE ARE VERY BROAD CONCEPTUAL SCENARIOS.
9:35:42AM WE HAD ELEMENTS OF THOSE THAT WE DRILLED DOWN.
9:35:44AM THEY FOUND THE ROADWAY, TRANSIT, AND COMMUNITY AND FUNDING
9:35:49AM CATEGORIES.
9:35:50AM HERE'S ALL OF THEM AT A GLANCE.
9:35:54AM I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT.
9:35:56AM MOST FAVORABLE IS ON THE LEFT.
9:35:59AM LEAST FAVORABLE ON THE RIGHT.
9:36:01AM YOU CAN SEE THAT REALLY HIGH, 82% SUPPORT FOR A STATEWIDE
9:36:09AM RAIL, LOCAL AND REGIONAL RAIL, NUMBER TWO, AND THESE ARE THE
9:36:13AM LITTLE COMPONENTS OF THE ELEMENT OF THE WHOLE SCENARIO.
9:36:17AM THE GREEN SQUARES OF OUR COMMUNITY ELEMENTS.
9:36:21AM SO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOODS, WIFI FOCUS, BETTER DOWNTOWNS, ALL
9:36:27AM ON THE HIGH END, VERY FAVORABLE.
9:36:29AM ONE EXCEPTION IS THE VERY LAST PLACE, WHICH WAS EXPAND OUR
9:36:33AM GROWTH AREA.
9:36:34AM ALL THREE COUNTIES GAVE THAT THE LOWEST RATING OF ALL THE
9:36:38AM ELEMENTS.
9:36:39AM THEN OF NOTE IS THE SECOND-TO-LAST ONE, I-275 BOULEVARD,
9:36:43AM ALSO SECOND-TO-LAST PLACE.
9:36:46AM THE FUNDING STRATEGIES DON'T ALWAYS PERFORM SUPER WELL IN
9:36:50AM THESE SURVEYS.
9:36:51AM PEOPLE LIKE TO BUY AND SHOP FOR ALL THEIR TRANSPORTATION
9:36:54AM IMPROVEMENTS BUT NOT NECESSARILY PAY.
9:36:56AM TAXES AND FEES FOR RAIL WAS UP THERE RIGHT BEHIND THE
9:37:00AM COMMUNITY ELEMENTS.
9:37:00AM AGAIN, SUPER DETAILED REPORTS GO WITH ALL OF THIS
9:37:06AM INFORMATION.
9:37:07AM THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THE ELEMENTS THAT WILL HELP US
9:37:10AM DETERMINE WHAT GOES INTO OUR HYBRID SCENARIO IS THAT THERE
9:37:13AM WERE MORE POSITIVES THAN NEGATIVES ON PRESERVE THE
9:37:19AM NEIGHBORHOODS, MORE BETTER DOWNTOWNS.
9:37:20AM EFFICIENT USE OF LAND.
9:37:21AM THERE WERE MORE NEGATIVES THAN POSITIVES FOR THE I-275
9:37:24AM BOULEVARD CONVERSION AND EXPANDING THE GROWTH AREA.
9:37:26AM AGAIN, STATEWIDE RAIL AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL RAILS SCORED
9:37:33AM HIGH.
9:37:34AM BIKE-WALK FOCUS.
9:37:35AM TAXES AND FEES TO FUND THE RAIL.
9:37:37AM EXPRESS BUS WATER FERRY, SPECIAL DISTRICT FEES, ADVANCED
9:37:42AM TECHNOLOGY, AND ELEVATED TOLLS.
9:37:44AM THOSE ARE ALL THINGS CONSIDERED IN IT.
9:37:46AM THE THINGS MORE AMBIVALENT WITH, COMPLETING THE LOOP,
9:37:50AM EXPANDED RIDE SHARING, TAXES TO FUND BUSES.
9:37:53AM WHAT WE'RE TAKING THROUGH OUR COMMITTEES AND THE BOARD IS TO
9:38:00AM GET THEIR CONCURRENCE ON OUR GUIDANCE TO DEVELOPING THE
9:38:06AM HYBRID SCENARIOS.
9:38:08AM IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, WE'LL LOOK FOR POLICIES AND
9:38:11AM GOALS TO REINVEST IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, STRENGTHEN THE
9:38:13AM DOWNTOWNS AND CREATE MORE OF THOSE DOWNTOWN PLACES AND
9:38:16AM MINIMIZING THE OUTWARD GROWTH.
9:38:19AM GUIDANCE FOR TRANSIT RELATED TRANSPORTATION WOULD THAT BE WE
9:38:26AM NEED TO CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR INCORPORATING RAIL IN OUR 2045
9:38:29AM PLAN.
9:38:30AM BRIGHTLINE, EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR, OTHER RAIL OR FIXED
9:38:34AM GUIDEWAY TRANSIT.
9:38:36AM AND THE PLAN SHOULD INCLUDE EXPRESS BUS AND BUS RAPID
9:38:39AM TRANSIT CONNECTIONS.
9:38:40AM THE TAKEWAYS AND GUIDANCE FOR ROADWAYS AND HIGHWAYS IS THAT
9:38:45AM THERE IS STRONG SUPPORT FOR NEW AND EXPANDED INTERCHANGE
9:38:49AM RAMPS.
9:38:49AM NEED TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THE ELEVATED EXPRESS LANE
9:38:52AM PROJECTS.
9:38:53AM ONE OF THE POSSIBLE STRATEGIES FOR DOWNTOWN IS ALTERNATE C
9:38:57AM AND D.
9:38:58AM PASCO ELEVATED TOLL LANE.
9:39:00AM AND THEN TOLLS WERE MORE SUPPORTIVE FOR CONGESTION
9:39:04AM MANAGEMENT THAN ACTUAL RAISING OF REVENUE.
9:39:06AM THE LAST ONE, WALK BY MODES ARE SUPER IMPORTANT AND NEED TO
9:39:13AM BE ADDRESSED.
9:39:14AM THERE WAS NOT PUBLIC SUPPORT CURRENTLY FOR THE I-275
9:39:16AM BOULEVARD CONVERSION, AND DEMONSTRATING HOW TECHNOLOGY CAN
9:39:20AM BE REALISTIC AND SAFE WAS THERE FOR OUR TECHNOLOGY.
9:39:25AM THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF IT BUT A LITTLE SKEPTICAL.
9:39:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:39:37AM >> DETAILED REPORT AND FULL PowerPoint ARE ON
9:39:43AM itstimetampabay.org.
9:39:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:39:47AM ALL RIGHT.
9:39:47AM WE GO ITEM NUMBER 8.
9:39:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:39:55AM DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
9:40:00AM BACK ON JUNE 28th, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED PLANNING
9:40:03AM COMMISSION STAFF TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON THE DRAFTING OF
9:40:07AM PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE DESIGNATION OF
9:40:10AM FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT ALLOW FOR POTENTIAL
9:40:15AM DEVELOPMENT ON SUBMERGED LANDS.
9:40:16AM BASED ON THAT DIRECTION, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAD MET
9:40:19AM SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE LEGAL AND PLANNING STAFF OF THE CITY.
9:40:23AM WE'VE ALSO MET WITH EPC STAFF AND THE STAFF OF PORT TAMPA TO
9:40:27AM COLLABORATE ON PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO MEET THE INTENT OF CITY
9:40:30AM COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
9:40:31AM AFTER SEVERAL ITERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY OF
9:40:35AM TAMPA STAFF HAVE SUBMITTED DRAFT LANGUAGE FOR COUNCIL'S
9:40:39AM INITIAL REVIEW AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE
9:40:43AM AT THIS TIME.
9:40:43AM IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
9:40:48AM RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL FORMALLY INITIATE A MOTION TO
9:40:53AM TRANSMIT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
9:40:56AM FOR FORMAL REVIEW AS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE
9:41:00AM ELEMENT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NOVEMBER CYCLE OF PLAN
9:41:04AM AMENDMENTS.
9:41:05AM THE TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION EARLY
9:41:09AM 2019 FOR A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION AND WOULD THEN BE BROUGHT
9:41:14AM BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ADOPTION BY LATE MARCH.
9:41:18AM YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT DRAFT LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
9:41:24AM OUR STAFF AND CITY LEGAL IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:41:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
9:41:29AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'M HAPPY TO INITIATE A MOTION TO TRANSMIT.
9:41:32AM HOWEVER, IT WAS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S ITEM.
9:41:35AM I FEEL LIKE HE MAY HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
9:41:38AM I'M HOPING THAT WHEN HE HEARS THIS, HE MIGHT WALK BACK ON TO
9:41:42AM THE DAIS.
9:41:48AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I COULD.
9:41:50AM MR. HEY, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT -- WE, BUT WHEN WE WERE
9:41:55AM TALKING WITH YOUR STAFF ABOUT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION ON
9:41:57AM THE SUBMERGED LANDS, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE DEALT WITH
9:42:03AM CONTROLS THAT DEAL WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY AND SOME OTHER
9:42:06AM THINGS.
9:42:07AM IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PUT A TEMPORAL TIME FRAME ON
9:42:11AM THERE SO THAT WE COULD SAY ANY MAN-MADE -- BECAUSE MAN-MADE
9:42:18AM IS PART OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, TOO -- ANY MAN-MADE AFTER
9:42:21AM A CERTAIN DATE THEY CANNOT FILL IN?
9:42:24AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE LAKES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT
9:42:28AM MIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF LAND, THE WAY THAT THE MARKET
9:42:32AM IS GOING RIGHT NOW, COULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
9:42:38AM RATHER NOT HAVE THAT BASED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
9:42:40AM >>DAVID HEY: TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LEGAL QUESTION.
9:42:43AM I WILL LET YOUR LEGAL STAFF ADDRESS THE TIME LINE.
9:42:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU KNOW THE QUESTION.
9:42:53AM I ASKED YOU YESTERDAY, AND I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT IN
9:42:56AM TERMS OF PUTTING A TIME FRAME AS TO WHEN LANDS THAT WERE
9:43:00AM ALREADY SUBMERGED LANDS.
9:43:02AM I KNOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS SUBMERGED
9:43:05AM LAND.
9:43:07AM WETLANDS IS ONE WAY OF USING IT, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE
9:43:09AM VEGETATION.
9:43:09AM SO IF IT DOESN'T HAVE VEGETATION BUT THE LAND IS UNDERNEATH
9:43:12AM A POND OR A LAKE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HOW CAN WE PROTECT
9:43:15AM AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T BECOME INFILL WHEN IT'S SOMETHING
9:43:19AM THAT WAS MAN-MADE FROM A FEW YEARS BACK?
9:43:23AM CAN WE PUT A TIME FRAME AS TO ANYTHING FROM THIS POINT
9:43:25AM FORWARD CAN'T BE FILLED IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
9:43:28AM >> WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT A TEMPORAL COMPONENT AND
9:43:31AM ADDING THAT TO OUR DEFINITION OF MAN-MADE WATER BODY, AT
9:43:34AM WHAT POINT IT BECOMES A PERMANENT WATER BODY THAT WE WANT TO
9:43:38AM KEEP, YES.
9:43:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'D LIKE TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO FIND OUT
9:43:43AM THOSE BODIES THAT ARE ALREADY LAKES.
9:43:47AM WE CALL THEM LAKES.
9:43:48AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM THAT WE HAVE.
9:43:50AM SPRING LAKE, WHICH IS IN SOUTH TAMPA, IS ONE.
9:43:53AM THERE'S ONE IN HAMPTON TERRACE THAT USED TO BE, ACCORDING TO
9:43:57AM HISTORY, USED TO BE A SPRING LAKE, BUT IT MAY NOT BE
9:44:00AM ANYMORE.
9:44:01AM AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S CONSIDERED MAN MADE VERSUS
9:44:04AM NOT MAN MADE.
9:44:05AM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF BODIES OF WATER
9:44:08AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:44:09AM I DON'T WANT PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE AFFECTED BECAUSE
9:44:11AM ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEONE IS ABLE TO BUY AND THEN FILL IN SOME
9:44:14AM OF THESE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, MAN-MADE PROPERTIES.
9:44:18AM I'D LIKE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT.
9:44:20AM BUT IF WE TRANSMIT IT NOW, WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOME OF
9:44:23AM THOSE SUGGESTIONS OR MAKE THOSE SUGGESTIONS TO THE PLANNING
9:44:25AM COMMISSION?
9:44:26AM >> YES.
9:44:27AM I THINK THAT SUGGESTION WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT
9:44:32AM YOU'RE TRANSMITTING TODAY.
9:44:33AM AND THEN THAT RESEARCH WOULD TAKE PLACE AS THE PLANNING
9:44:35AM COMMISSION IS WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
9:44:37AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A SET TIME FRAME, MEANING
9:44:40AM THE DATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO PUT IT AS PART OF OUR
9:44:44AM TRANSMITTAL OR NOT?
9:44:46AM >> I THINK ONCE THIS IS TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING
9:44:48AM COMMISSION, THEY'LL PUT IT ON AN EXPEDITED TIME FRAME TO
9:44:51AM BRING --
9:44:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, NO.
9:44:54AM THE IDEA I'M TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS A TIME FRAME AS TO WHEN
9:44:57AM WE CANNOT ALLOW A MAN-MADE LAND TO BE -- A MAN-MADE LAKE TO
9:45:01AM BE FILLED IN.
9:45:03AM >> IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME IN MIND --
9:45:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I DON'T, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RESEARCH
9:45:07AM TO LOOK AT.
9:45:09AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF IT COMES BACK WE CAN DO THE RESEARCH
9:45:11AM IN THE MEANTIME THROUGH OUR STAFF, THROUGH PLANNING
9:45:14AM COMMISSION STAFF, AND THEN COME BACK AND REPORT TO US WHEN
9:45:17AM IT COMES BACK ON THE CYCLE -- I MEAN, COMES BACK THROUGH THE
9:45:20AM CYCLE TO US.
9:45:20AM >> YES, THAT WOULD BE I THINK THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION.
9:45:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
9:45:24AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:45:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS OUTSIDE DOING ANOTHER VISIT FOR THE
9:45:30AM CITY.
9:45:30AM BUT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY IMPLY THAT YOU CAN'T REPAIR SUCH A
9:45:34AM THING AS A SEAWALL AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING
9:45:40AM THAT'S GOING TO COMPLICATE NATURE.
9:45:42AM >>KRISTIN MORA: KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:45:45AM CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.
9:45:46AM WE INCLUDED IN THAT AS EXCEPTION INCIDENTAL FILL WHICH --
9:45:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOCKS --
9:45:54AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES, SIR.
9:45:55AM THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
9:45:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL?
9:46:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED THAT THE ITEM BE SENT AND WE CAN
9:46:04AM MAKE SOME ARRANGEMENTS LATER ON IN PERFECTING IT.
9:46:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:46:08AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
9:46:10AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
9:46:12AM OPPOSED?
9:46:12AM ALL RIGHT.
9:46:13AM MOTION CARRIED.
9:46:14AM WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:46:17AM MR. SHELBY.
9:46:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:46:21AM GOOD MORNING.
9:46:21AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:46:24AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
9:46:30AM SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
9:46:33AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING
9:46:36AM YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING TODAY'S MEETING.
9:46:38AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN PREFERENCE
9:46:42AM BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS.
9:46:45AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:46:47AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS
9:46:50AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:46:53AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A STAFF MEMBER, BUT RATHER ISSUES
9:46:56AM DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:46:58AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:47:03AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:47:06AM THANK YOU.
9:47:08AM >> METEZMET.
9:47:12AM GOOD MORNING, CITY.
9:47:12AM THE WORD TODAY, THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST SAID, YOU HAVE TO
9:47:17AM ADDRESS EVERYONE.
9:47:19AM YOU CAN'T ADDRESS ANY PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL.
9:47:23AM SO I'M ADDRESSING EVERYONE UP THERE.
9:47:25AM AND THE WORD TODAY IS COWARD.
9:47:30AM COWARDS DO ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR THE CITY.
9:47:34AM COWARDS, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR THE BLACK
9:47:40AM COMMUNITY AND HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF HATE AND DISRESPECT FOR
9:47:46AM BLACK PEOPLE.
9:47:48AM NO REPRESENTATION INSIDE DISTRICT 5.
9:47:53AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NONE.
9:47:54AM COWARDS.
9:47:57AM THE MAYOR OF THIS CITY, BOB BUCKHORN CALLED AFRICAN PEOPLE,
9:48:04AM CALLED AFRICAN WOMEN BITCHES, AND THE COWARDS UP THERE SAY
9:48:10AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
9:48:12AM THE MAYOR CALLED FOR THE LYNCHING OF AN AFRICAN MAN AND THE
9:48:16AM COWARDS SAY ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
9:48:19AM THE WORD IS COWARDS.
9:48:21AM NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
9:48:24AM AND THEY TRY TO EXPRESS A CERTAIN KIND OF DIVERSITY, BUT
9:48:30AM IT'S A FALSE DIVERSITY.
9:48:33AM IT'S AN UNTRUE DIVERSITY.
9:48:37AM IT IS A TALK GAME.
9:48:39AM TALK OUT OF THEIR MOUTH AND BEING ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY
9:48:42AM NOTHING.
9:48:42AM IT MEANS NOTHING.
9:48:44AM COWARDS, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
9:48:46AM IF YOU HAVE KIDS, GRANDKIDS, GREAT GRANDKIDS, YOU SHOULD BE
9:48:49AM ASHAMED, EVERY LAST ONE OF YA UP THERE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF
9:48:53AM YOURSELF, BECAUSE YOU'RE COWARDS.
9:48:55AM YOU STAND FOR NOTHING.
9:48:56AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
9:48:59AM GAY SON AND THAT IS A GAY MAN THAT SITS RIGHT THERE AND
9:49:05AM TREAT HIM JUST AS LOVELY, GETS JUST AS MANY HUGS.
9:49:09AM I HAVE 100% WHITE NEPHEW AND HE GETS TREATED THE SAME WAY
9:49:14AM WITH LOVE.
9:49:15AM I HAVE A FAT SON, AND HE GETS TREATED THE SAME WAY.
9:49:19AM I'VE GOT A SLOW DAUGHTER, AND SHE GETS TREATED THE SAME WAY,
9:49:23AM WITH LOVE AND PARENTAL RESPECT.
9:49:27AM YOU-ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR BLACK
9:49:30AM PEOPLE WHATSOEVER.
9:49:32AM AND YOU CARRY ON THE SAME WAY, YOUR NASTY PRESIDENT CARRY
9:49:39AM ON.
9:49:39AM THE MOST RESPECTED, THE MOST POWERFUL AFRICAN WOMAN ON THE
9:49:43AM PLANET EARTH, MAXINE WATERS, CALLING LOW IQ.
9:49:46AM LOW IQ.
9:49:48AM A WHITE WOMAN SOMEWHERE IN SOME OTHER STATE TALKING ABOUT
9:49:53AM SHE WANTS TO GO TO A PUBLIC HANGING.
9:49:55AM SHE WOULD RATHER GO TO A PUBLIC HANGING.
9:49:58AM THAT IS THE SAME KIND OF COWARDS YOU HAVE UP THERE.
9:50:01AM YOU CAN'T COMBAT NOTHING.
9:50:03AM THAT'S WHY WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE, WE AS BLACK PEOPLE GET NO
9:50:10AM SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:50:11AM COWARDS.
9:50:11AM COME UP HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING AND ONLY ONE PERSON
9:50:14AM HAS THE SENSE TO SAY, HEY, WHERE YOU GET THAT SURVEY FROM?
9:50:18AM COWARDS.
9:50:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SHELBY.
9:50:24AM I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT IT
9:50:32AM SAID.
9:50:34AM HE DID POINT OUT AN INDIVIDUAL ON THIS COUNCIL.
9:50:37AM THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED.
9:50:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT THE CHAIRMAN'S WISH?
9:50:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, SIR.
9:50:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IT IS THE ROLE, FRANKLY,
9:50:47AM UNLESS YOU DELEGATE THE AUTHORITY TO ME, IT IS THE ROLE OF
9:50:50AM COUNCIL --
9:50:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU MADE THE STATEMENT PRIOR TO PUBLIC
9:50:53AM COMMENT.
9:50:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
9:50:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I EXPECT YOU ALSO TO ACT WHEN THEY STEP OUT
9:50:58AM OF LINE.
9:50:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU THEN DELEGATING ME --
9:51:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, SIR.
9:51:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:51:04AM I JUST NEED THAT CLEAR.
9:51:06AM NORMALLY, THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE CHAIR.
9:51:07AM THAT'S FINE.
9:51:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN BECAUSE IT IS BEST
9:51:12AM YOU ADDRESS THEM.
9:51:13AM IF WE ADDRESS THEM, IT GETS INTO A PERSONAL ISSUE.
9:51:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, AND WE
9:51:22AM CAN DISCUSS THIS PRIVATELY, YOU ARE THEN DELEGATING ME TO
9:51:27AM MAKE THE RULING THAT HE WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER AND STOP HIM
9:51:30AM FROM DOING THAT.
9:51:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SIR, WHAT I'M MAKING, WHAT I'M SAYING IS
9:51:34AM ANYTHING THAT IS STATED INAPPROPRIATE BASED ON THE COMMENTS
9:51:40AM THAT YOU MADE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYTHING STATED
9:51:44AM OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF WHAT YOU HAVE READ --
9:51:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN MY JUDGMENT.
9:51:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IN YOUR JUDGMENT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT A
9:51:50AM STOP TO IT.
9:51:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:51:52AM YOU'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.
9:51:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD DAY.
9:51:54AM NEXT PERSON.
9:51:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:51:58AM MY NAME IS WINDELL ASHLEY.
9:52:01AM I RESIDE AT 4711 WEST FAIR OAKS AVENUE.
9:52:05AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE DOG BARKING ORDINANCE.
9:52:08AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ENACTING THE DOG
9:52:14AM BARKING ORDINANCE.
9:52:15AM BUT I HAVE A DOG -- MY NEIGHBOR HAS ABOUT THREE DOGS THAT
9:52:18AM HAVE BEEN BARKING CONSTANTLY FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR AND A
9:52:21AM HALF, IF NOT MORE.
9:52:22AM I'VE CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT.
9:52:24AM I'VE CALLED THE POLICE.
9:52:27AM THEN IN THE ORDINANCE, ONE THING THAT I THINK MIGHT NEED TO
9:52:30AM BE CHANGED AND THAT IS THE 20-MINUTE CONSTANTLY BARKING.
9:52:34AM THE DOG CAN BARK 18 MINUTES AND STOP AND THEN GO INSIDE,
9:52:40AM COME BACK OUT FIVE MINUTES LATER AND CONTINUALLY BARK FOR
9:52:44AM ANOTHER TEN MINUTES.
9:52:45AM THIS HAPPENS AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING.
9:52:47AM IT HAPPENS AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.
9:52:48AM IT HAPPENS AT 2:00, 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
9:52:51AM I'VE CALLED THE POLICE AND PUT THE PHONE UP TO MY WINDOW IN
9:52:56AM MY BEDROOM AND LET THEM LISTEN TO IT.
9:53:00AM I CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT RODRIGUEZ, SHE SAID I CAN'T EVEN
9:53:06AM DEAL WITH THAT.
9:53:07AM I CALLED COUNCILMAN COHEN'S OFFICE YESTERDAY, AND I'M GOING
9:53:11AM TO BE TALKING WITH HIS OFFICE MORE ON THIS ORDINANCE.
9:53:15AM I THINK THE TIME LIMIT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
9:53:18AM YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM BUT THE FORM IS NO
9:53:23AM GOOD UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THE 20 MINUTE BARKING.
9:53:26AM I HAVE BARKING ON MY PHONE THIS MORNING WITH THE DOG
9:53:29AM CONSTANTLY BARKING.
9:53:30AM I WORK EARLY IN THE MORNINGS.
9:53:31AM I COME HOME EARLY IN THE MORNINGS.
9:53:33AM I COME HOME LATE AT NIGHT, AND IT'S HARD TO LAY DOWN WITH
9:53:37AM THESE DOGS BARKING.
9:53:39AM THE DOGS ARE PROBABLY 60-, 70-POUND DOGS.
9:53:42AM IF MY GREAT GRANDKIDS COME TO MY HOUSE, THEY WILL NOT GO IN
9:53:46AM THE BACKYARD AND PLAY BECAUSE THESE DOGS WILL RUSH THE
9:53:49AM FENCE, AND THEY WANT TO RUN.
9:53:51AM AND WHEN THEY ARE RUNNING, THEY HAVE TO RUN UP THREE STEPS,
9:53:55AM OPEN THE DOOR TO THE LANAI TO RUN IN.
9:53:58AM IF THEY COME OVER, THE FIRST THING THEY ASK IS, ARE THOSE
9:54:02AM DOGS OUT THERE?
9:54:04AM I TALKED TO THE NEIGHBOR, HE SAID MY DOGS DON'T BITE.
9:54:08AM I SAID YOUR DOGS DON'T BITE YOU.
9:54:10AM AND THE OTHER THING, I THINK THE DOG MIGHT KNOW WHAT THE
9:54:14AM ORDINANCE IS, BECAUSE THEY WILL BARK 18 MINUTES, QUIT, GO
9:54:17AM BACK IN AND THEN START ALL OVER AGAIN.
9:54:19AM IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK -- I'M NOT TRYING TO
9:54:24AM GET IN ANY TROUBLE WITH THE DOGS.
9:54:27AM IT'S COME CLOSE TO THAT.
9:54:28AM I'M JUST ASKING THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THE 20-MINUTE
9:54:32AM ORDINANCE.
9:54:32AM THANK YOU.
9:54:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:54:35AM NEXT.
9:54:39AM YOU.
9:54:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
9:54:44AM ERIC SCHILLER.
9:54:45AM MY WIFE AND I OPERATE GASPAR'S GROTTO AT 1805 EAST SEVENTH
9:54:50AM AVENUE AND HAVE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
9:54:52AM I'M COMING BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
9:54:55AM WHERE -- WE'RE HAVING A SITUATION IN YBOR CITY.
9:54:59AM WE'RE GETTING CROSS WISE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT OVER A-FRAME
9:55:02AM SIGNS.
9:55:03AM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:55:08AM FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING A-FRAME SIGNS ON THE
9:55:13AM SIDEWALK.
9:55:14AM I GUESS THAT'S IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
9:55:16AM WHEN I SAY SIGNS, I MEAN IN PARTICULAR CHALKBOARDS WHERE WE
9:55:21AM CAN PUT DAILY SPECIAL AND THINGS.
9:55:24AM WE THINK THAT'S A SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC AND IT ADDS INTEREST
9:55:29AM AND COLOR TO YBOR CITY.
9:55:30AM I KNOW THAT SINCE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN WE WERE
9:55:35AM INSTRUCTED TO TAKE THEM IN, WE DON'T SELL THE SPECIALS THE
9:55:39AM WAY WE ALWAYS SELL THE SPECIALS.
9:55:41AM THERE WERE PROBABLY 30 OR 40 RESTAURANTS ON 7th AND 8th
9:55:45AM AVENUE AND OTHER RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT USE --
9:55:48AM [NO ENCODER]
9:56:32AM [NO ENCODER]
9:56:35AM -- I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION GROUP START WHERE
9:56:39AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE YBOR CITY
9:56:45AM COLORFUL AGAIN AND HELP THE TOURISTS AND SHOWCASE OUR WARES
9:56:51AM AND LOOK A LITTLE BIT LESS -- I'M SEARCHING FOR A WORD.
9:56:57AM I CAN'T FIND IT.
9:56:58AM IT LOOKS A LITTLE MORE STERILE ON YBOR CITY WITHOUT THEM.
9:57:03AM I KNOW WE HAD SEVERAL ON OUR BLOCK AND THEY ARE ALL GONE.
9:57:07AM IT'S NOT HELPING BUSINESS, AND IT'S NOT HELPING YBOR CITY.
9:57:09AM SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WE NEED TO GET SOME KIND OF FRAMEWORK TO
9:57:16AM DEAL WITH THE ISSUE.
9:57:16AM ALL I'VE HEARD SO FAR IS, WELL, MAYBE THIS, MAYBE THAT, AND
9:57:20AM IT HASN'T WORKED.
9:57:22AM SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR
9:57:22AM CONSIDERATION, AND I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK.
9:57:24AM THANK YOU.
9:57:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:57:32AM I'M SALLYISE D. LEE WITH THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY
9:57:40AM PENNY FUND.
9:57:41AM I WASN'T GOING TO COME THIS MORNING, BUT GOD WOKE ME UP AT
9:57:45AM 3:45 AND COMMANDED ME TO COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU
9:57:52AM ALL AGAIN BECAUSE I NEED HELP WITH THIS VERY IMPORTANT PLAN
9:57:56AM OF HIS FOR THIS MISSION RESOURCE CENTER.
9:57:58AM AND 45 YEARS BEING A MISSIONARY, 1800 MILES OF A COMMUNITY
9:58:07AM JUSTICE WALK, FOR THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE
9:58:13AM WORKING AND POOR SENIORS AND YOUNG FAMILIES AT THIS TIME.
9:58:18AM WE'RE BEING FORCED OUT.
9:58:24AM I'M IN THE COMMUNITY EVERY DAY TALKING TO THEM.
9:58:27AM THEM ASKING FOR HELP WITH NOWHERE TO GO WITH THE WAY THINGS
9:58:31AM ARE.
9:58:32AM SINCE I WORK FOR GOD, I JUST SAY, WELL, LORD, OKAY, WHAT YOU
9:58:36AM WANT ME TO DO?
9:58:37AM IF I DON'T DO WHAT HE COMMANDS ME AND SEND ME ANYWAY.
9:58:42AM I NEED HELP WITH THIS.
9:58:43AM I'M WORKING WITH THE CRA.
9:58:49AM I'M JUST ASKING FOR HELP TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL, EXPRESS
9:58:53AM THE PROJECT, AND TRY TO CHANGE THE FACE OF POVERTY.
9:58:58AM I CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
9:59:00AM I CAN'T DO IT BY MYSELF.
9:59:01AM BUT WITH THE HELP AND THE UNITY OF VOLUNTEERS AND THE CITY,
9:59:06AM WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
9:59:08AM THE ONLY THING I CAN IS PRESENT WHAT GOD TELLS ME TO SAY TO
9:59:13AM YOU, BECAUSE I JUST WANT IT TO REST, BUT HE SAYS, NO, I HAVE
9:59:16AM TO GET UP AND COME AND MENTION THIS TO YOU, TO MOVE THIS
9:59:20AM PROJECT FORWARD.
9:59:21AM I'VE -- I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN DO IN MY POWER WITH THIS
9:59:29AM LEADING AND GUIDANCE.
9:59:30AM AND HE SENT ME TO YOU ALL.
9:59:32AM I WANTED TO KNOW IF I COULD GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO MEET
9:59:35AM WITH THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN,
9:59:38AM MR. DANIELS SAID, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN OUR
9:59:41AM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT IS SO PITIFUL AND SO SAD.
9:59:46AM TAMPA HAS NEVER BEEN LIKE THIS BEFORE.
9:59:51AM GOD IS WATCHING US.
9:59:52AM THAT'S WHY HE HAS MISSIONARIES LIKE ME TO SPEAK TO YOU ON
9:59:57AM JUST THE MESSAGE.
9:59:58AM I HAVE TO DO WHAT HE SAYS BECAUSE HE CAN PUNISH ME.
10:00:02AM HE'S IN CHARGE OF MY LIFE, WAY PAST ANYBODY I KNOW IN
10:00:05AM GOVERNMENT.
10:00:06AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF I COULD GET AN APPOINTMENT OR WAIT
10:00:09AM UNTIL THE CRA ON WHAT I CAN DO TO GET HELP FOR THIS
10:00:12AM IMPORTANT MISSION.
10:00:13AM THANK YOU.
10:00:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:00:18AM SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, 607 WEST BAY STREET.
10:00:21AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE FIRST ITEM ON YOUR ADDENDUM, A
10:00:25AM LETTER THAT I SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT REGARDING A
10:00:28AM PETITION FOR REVIEW HEARING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED
10:00:31AM FOR FEBRUARY 7th.
10:00:33AM MY LETTER IS REQUESTING THAT IT BE RESCHEDULED DUE TO
10:00:36AM SCHEDULING CONFLICTS TO EITHER THE DECEMBER 20th OR
10:00:39AM JANUARY 10th CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
10:00:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT'S SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING?
10:00:46AM >> YES, IT IS.
10:00:56AM >> IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EITHER OF THE DATES ARE TOO BAD.
10:00:58AM DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE?
10:01:03AM >> I DO NOT HAVE A PREFERENCE.
10:01:05AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT TO
10:01:07AM DECEMBER 20th.
10:01:08AM AT 10:30 A.M.
10:01:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:01:15AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:01:17AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
10:01:20AM OPPOSED?
10:01:20AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:01:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
10:01:25AM COMMENTS?
10:01:26AM ALL RIGHT.
10:01:27AM WE GO TO -- DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR
10:01:32AM RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:01:33AM SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:01:38AM ITEM NUMBER 9, MR. COHEN.
10:01:43AM >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
10:01:46AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:01:49AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:01:51AM MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES,
10:01:54AM CHAPTER 16, PARKS AND RECREATION; AMENDING SECTION 16-43,
10:01:59AM PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:02:02AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
10:02:06AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:02:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:02:09AM SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
10:02:11AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:13AM OPPOSED?
10:02:15AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ELSE ON
10:02:17AM DECEMBER 6th AT 9:30 A.M.
10:02:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
10:02:21AM ANYONE FROM STAFF HERE?
10:02:25AM PERTAINING TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
10:02:29AM >> [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:02:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:02:39AM JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.
10:02:44AM WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY TO ESTABLISH A MOTORIZED
10:02:55AM SCOOTER PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:02:56AM IT WOULD BE A ONE-YEAR PROGRAM.
10:03:00AM THE KEY CHANGE IN OUR ORDINANCE WILL BE TO ALLOW THESE
10:03:03AM SCOOTERS TO OPERATE ON OUR SIDEWALKS WITHIN A CERTAIN
10:03:07AM DEFINED AREA, GENERALLY SOUTH OF MLK, DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
10:03:14AM BOULEVARD BETWEEN ARMENIA AND 40th STREET.
10:03:17AM WE ARE REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED LAST
10:03:23AM FRIDAY, WHICH WAS OUR DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION SUBMITTAL.
10:03:25AM RECEIVED ABOUT 12 APPLICATIONS FROM VARIOUS COMPANIES.
10:03:32AM SO WE'RE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH SOME OF THE
10:03:34AM LOGISTICS TO GET THIS PROGRAM SET UP.
10:03:38AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT OUR
10:03:41AM PROPOSED PILOT PROGRAM.
10:03:44AM >>HARRY COHEN: A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
10:03:46AM I KNOW YOU MET WITH MANY OF US IN OUR OFFICES ABOUT THIS.
10:03:51AM HOW MANY SCOOTER COMPANIES DO YOU ANTICIPATE ACTUALLY
10:03:55AM ENGAGING TO BE PART OF THE PILOT PROGRAM?
10:03:58AM >> YES.
10:03:58AM WE HAVE DECIDED TO SELECT THREE DIFFERENT OPERATORS.
10:04:02AM WE'LL EVALUATE THE THREE COMPARING WITH EACH OTHER AS WELL
10:04:06AM AS HOW THEY ARE OPERATING WITHIN THE CITY.
10:04:09AM >>HARRY COHEN: IS THE GOAL TO AT THE END OF IT CHOOSE ONE OR
10:04:14AM PERHAPS TO CHOOSE ALL THREE OR NONE -- WHAT IS YOUR SORT OF
10:04:18AM GOAL?
10:04:19AM >> OUR GOAL IS TO DECIDE HOW DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD?
10:04:23AM DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AT ALL WITH THE SCOOTERS BECAUSE
10:04:26AM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CITIES WHO HAVE DECIDED IT'S REALLY NOT
10:04:29AM THEIR CUP OF TEA.
10:04:31AM DO WE WANT TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE?
10:04:33AM WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
10:04:34AM WE'RE MAKING A REALLY INFORMED DECISION OF A MORE PERMANENT
10:04:38AM SCENARIO.
10:04:40AM >>HARRY COHEN: IF IT'S HAY-WIRE, YOU CAN CANCEL THE PROGRAM,
10:04:44AM RIGHT?
10:04:44AM >> YES, SIR.
10:04:45AM THERE IS A RIP-CORD CLAUSE, IF WE CAN CALL IT THAT, TO
10:04:48AM TERMINATE IT.
10:04:48AM >>HARRY COHEN: TWO THINGS.
10:04:49AM FIRST OF ALL, YOU SAID THEY ARE GOING TO OPERATE ON
10:04:52AM SIDEWALKS.
10:04:52AM THERE WERE QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THEY COULDN'T OPERATE IN BIKE
10:04:55AM LANES.
10:04:55AM WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT?
10:04:56AM >> YES, THERE IS A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW
10:05:00AM MOTORIZED SCOOTERS ANYWHERE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE STATE
10:05:03AM OF FLORIDA.
10:05:03AM BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE THAT CITIES CAN WRITE AN ORDINANCE
10:05:09AM TO ALLOW THEM ON THE SIDEWALKS ONLY.
10:05:10AM >>HARRY COHEN: THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE?
10:05:12AM >> YES, SIR.
10:05:13AM >>HARRY COHEN: THEN THE FINAL QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE THEY
10:05:15AM GOING TO BE STORED?
10:05:16AM THEY ARE NOT JUST GOING TO BE STREWN ON THE SIDEWALKS, I
10:05:19AM ASSUME.
10:05:19AM WELL, IN SOME CITIES, APPARENTLY THEY HAVE BEEN.
10:05:25AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND IT WILL BE HERE, TOO, I'M SURE.
10:05:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: THAT'S FIRST.
10:05:28AM SECOND, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN
10:05:31AM FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES, CORRECT, OR IS IT?
10:05:34AM >> CORRECT. WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THOSE BAD HEADLINES LIKE
10:05:40AM OTHER CITIES HAVE HAD.
10:05:41AM WE DON'T BELIEVE THE SCOOTER COMPANIES WANT TO CONTINUE IN
10:05:43AM THAT VEIN EITHER.
10:05:44AM IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEIR BUSINESS EITHER.
10:05:47AM WE PROPOSED IN OUR PILOT PROGRAM TO HAVE THE SCOOTER
10:05:52AM COMPANIES COME IN AND HAVE SCOOTER CORRALS PERMITTED.
10:05:56AM THESE CORRALS WOULD BE PAINTED AREAS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:05:58AM WHERE THE SCOOTERS WOULD BE STAGED.
10:06:03AM WE FEEL IT'S A GOOD MANAGEMENT APPROACH SO THAT THE SCOOTERS
10:06:07AM HAVE A DESIGNATED SPOT THEY NEED TO GO TO, THAT THE USERS
10:06:10AM WILL PLACE THEM.
10:06:12AM BETTER FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO KNOW WHERE TO FIND THEM.
10:06:15AM THEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THEIR CUSTOMERS WALKING ALONG THE
10:06:17AM SIDEWALKS HOPING THEY ENCOUNTER A SCOOTER THEY CAN RENT.
10:06:21AM WE EXPECT THAT THE VENDORS WILL BE INTERESTED IN PICKING
10:06:25AM LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S A DENSITY OF PEDESTRIANS, WHICH ARE
10:06:29AM GENERALLY OUR COLLECTOR ROADWAYS AND CERTAINLY NOT IN OUR
10:06:32AM RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
10:06:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST OF ALL, MY APOLOGIES.
10:06:42AM I COULDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING I HAD SCHEDULED WITH YOU AT
10:06:46AM 8:30.
10:06:47AM IN READING THIS, YOU'LL HAVE 180 CORRALS, SOUNDS LIKE A
10:06:50AM HORSE CORRALS FOR 10 SCOOTERS OR 1800 SCOOTERS, AM I
10:06:54AM CORRECT?
10:06:55AM >> YES, SIR.
10:06:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE DESIGNATING AREA 12 SQUARE MILES.
10:07:00AM >> I BELIEVE SO, YES.
10:07:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAD DIFFERENT COLORS, RED, GREEN,
10:07:04AM PURPLE AND BLUE, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT.
10:07:07AM I HAVE SOME CONCERN REGARDING -- SO YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO
10:07:13AM HAVE MAYBE THREE COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO FINALIZE THE
10:07:17AM SITUATION AT HAND AND WHO GETS WHAT.
10:07:19AM THERE ARE 30 CORRALS IN DOWNTOWN 30 AND EAST TAMPA -- EXCUSE
10:07:23AM ME, WEST DOWNTOWN 30 AND -- WEST DOWNTOWN, EAST DOWNTOWN,
10:07:27AM NORTH DOWNTOWN, AND THE EXPANSION AREA, 60.
10:07:30AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF SCOOTERS.
10:07:34AM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BUSY.
10:07:35AM A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET FATTER.
10:07:38AM HEART ATTACKS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN MORE OFTEN BECAUSE NOBODY
10:07:41AM IS GOING TO WALK.
10:07:42AM WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THIS?
10:07:44AM IF I WANT TO BUY A SCOOTER, CAN I PARTICIPATE WITHOUT DOING
10:07:47AM ANYTHING AND RIDING MY OWN SCOOTER?
10:07:49AM >> NO.
10:07:50AM CURRENTLY, UNLESS YOU HAVE AN OPERATOR AGREEMENT WITH THE
10:07:53AM CITY AND YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE ARE SOME
10:07:57AM FOLKS BUZZING AROUND ON SCOOTERS.
10:07:59AM I SAW ONE YESTERDAY AND ONE THIS MORNING.
10:08:01AM THE FELLOW THIS MORNING HAD A LITTLE CHILD SITTING IN FRONT
10:08:05AM OF HIM.
10:08:07AM THOSE ARE NOT ALLOWED UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE.
10:08:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:08:10AM BUT THE FLORIDA STATUTE REALLY SAYS NOTHING.
10:08:13AM >> CORRECT.
10:08:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY THROW IT ON US AND SAYS IF YOU WANT
10:08:16AM TO TAKE IT, IN ESSENCE.
10:08:20AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE INSURANCE.
10:08:20AM READ IT, SAID COVER INSURANCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AMOUNT, HOW
10:08:24AM MUCH MEDICAL, HOW MUCH THIS, HOW MUCH IN THE CASE OF DEATH.
10:08:27AM AT 15 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S WHAT I READ YOU CAN GO UP TO.
10:08:31AM AND THEN GEAR IT DOWN TO 5, 8 MILES AN HOUR IN CERTAIN
10:08:34AM AREAS.
10:08:34AM YOU CAN STILL HIT SOMEBODY, THAT PERSON CAN DROP, HIT THE
10:08:38AM HEAD ON THE SIDEWALK AND YOU WOULD BE GONE BYE-BYE.
10:08:42AM AND THEN WHO WOULD PAY?
10:08:43AM >> THE FLORIDA STATUTE DOES ALLOW UP TO 15 MILES AN HOUR
10:08:49AM MAXIMUM.
10:08:49AM WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE VENDORS THAT WE CHOOSE TO OPERATE
10:08:53AM THEIR SCOOTERS IN THE 5 TO 8-MILE AN HOUR RANGE.
10:08:55AM AND THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES.
10:08:59AM SOME BETTER, SOME NOT AS GOOD TO CONTROL THAT SPEED RANGE,
10:09:03AM BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE SPEED ON THE
10:09:06AM SIDEWALKS, INTERFACING WITH PEDESTRIANS.
10:09:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW THEY ARE PROHIBITED IN CERTAIN
10:09:11AM AREAS, INCLUDING THE RIVERWALK, IF I REMEMBER READING THIS
10:09:15AM LAST NIGHT.
10:09:16AM >> RIVERWALK, BAYSHORE SIDEWALK AND 7th AVENUE ARE
10:09:20AM OFF-LIMITS.
10:09:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT 7th AVENUE AND 8th AVENUE.
10:09:23AM >> YES.
10:09:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THERE ANY MECHANISM BY WHICH WE CAN TRACK
10:09:32AM ADDITIONAL INJURIES THAT COME FROM USE OF THESE SCOOTERS IN
10:09:35AM THE NEXT YEAR?
10:09:37AM >> YES, WE'RE INTERESTED IN DATA SHARING WITH THE COMPANIES,
10:09:41AM AND CERTAINLY, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE DATA POINTS, NOT TO
10:09:44AM MINIMIZE THE INJURIES, OF COURSE.
10:09:46AM BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT WE ARE
10:09:49AM INTERESTED IN SHARING WITH THEM, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO
10:09:54AM SEPARATE THOSE TYPE OF INJURIES AS BEST WE CAN FROM THE
10:09:58AM OTHER TYPICAL THINGS THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE.
10:10:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GOOD.
10:10:03AM THESE ARE OFTEN COMPARED TO BICYCLES, BUT THE VISUAL PROFILE
10:10:07AM OF SOMEONE ON A BICYCLE COMPARED TO SOMEONE ON A SCOOTER IS
10:10:10AM OBVIOUSLY DISTINCT TO SOMEONE WHO IS RIDING IN A VEHICLE,
10:10:13AM ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
10:10:14AM IT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY YIELD ADDITIONAL
10:10:17AM INJURIES.
10:10:17AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK PUTS US IN THE RIGHT
10:10:20AM DIRECTION.
10:10:20AM IT'S NARROWLY TAILORED.
10:10:21AM IT'S FOR A YEAR.
10:10:22AM WE CAN PULL THE PLUG AT ANY TIME.
10:10:24AM THERE ARE SENSIBLE RESTRICTIONS ON WHERE THIS CAN HAPPEN.
10:10:27AM SPEED LIMITS, ET CETERA.
10:10:28AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY SHOULD BE OUT ON THE
10:10:29AM FOREFRONT OF.
10:10:30AM I THINK IT TARGETS A DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WE REALLY NEED TO
10:10:33AM REACH OUT TO AS A CITY.
10:10:34AM I KNOW AS AN ATTORNEY, MY LAW OFFICE IS ABOUT TWO MINUTES
10:10:40AM FROM HERE, AND THE GEORGE EDGECOMB COURTHOUSE IS MAYBE A
10:10:43AM 12-MINUTE WALK OR SO FROM THE COURTHOUSE.
10:10:45AM IT CAN BE DURING THE SUMMER A REALLY BAD WALK.
10:10:48AM I THINK OF THESE SCOOTERS, PARTICULARLY FOR MAYBE SOME OF
10:10:50AM OUR YOUNGER LAWYERS UNDER THE AGE OF 40 -- I JUST TURNED 40,
10:10:54AM SO I GUESS I AM NO LONGER THERE -- IT WOULD BE SOMETHING
10:10:57AM THAT THEY WOULD USE.
10:10:58AM YOU GO TO THE SAM GIBBONS FEDERAL COURTHOUSE, AGAIN, IT'S
10:11:01AM SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD USE.
10:11:02AM I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD REALLY, REALLY MOVE OUR
10:11:05AM CITY FORWARD, ON A SMALL SCALE, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S
10:11:07AM CERTAINLY MEASURABLE, BUT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THIS YEAR TO
10:11:11AM GAUGE THINGS LIKE INJURIES, SAFETY TO FOLKS ON THE STREETS,
10:11:15AM ET CETERA.
10:11:16AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE COMPANIES, AS I'M SURE THAT
10:11:20AM THEY ARE, ARE PARTNERS IN THAT, SO THAT THEY TAKE THE STEPS,
10:11:22AM AS I KNOW THAT THEY WILL, TO PREVENT INJURIES AND TO MAKE
10:11:27AM OUR STREETS AS SAFE AS THEY CAN BE.
10:11:28AM THANK YOU.
10:11:29AM >> YES, SIR.
10:11:33AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:11:36AM I HEAR INJURIES.
10:11:37AM I HEAR SCOOTERS LEFT.
10:11:40AM I'M THINKING FOR A YEAR.
10:11:45AM CAN WE STOP IT AT ANY TIME IN THAT YEAR?
10:11:48AM AT ANY TIME?
10:11:49AM >> YES, WE CAN DO THAT.
10:11:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HAVE WE PICKED THE THREE THAT WILL
10:11:53AM PARTICIPATE?
10:11:54AM >> WE HAVE NOT SELECTED THOSE AS OF YET, NO.
10:11:56AM WE RECEIVED THE APPLICATIONS LAST FRIDAY, AND SO THAT
10:12:01AM PROCESS --
10:12:02AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I KNOW AS OF YESTERDAY YOU HADN'T.
10:12:04AM >> CORRECT, YES.
10:12:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT WILL BE INTERESTING AT ANY RATE.
10:12:12AM IT ALSO COULD BE PRETTY DANGEROUS.
10:12:20AM IF YOU'RE WALKING AND DON'T SEE THE SCOOTER COMING BEHIND
10:12:22AM YOU AND YOU MOVE OVER TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT, YOU'RE IN
10:12:26AM TROUBLE.
10:12:27AM AT ANY RATE, WE'LL SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT INJURED.
10:12:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID I HEAR YOU SAY CORRECTLY YOU SAW
10:12:38AM SOMEONE ON A SCOOTER HOLDING A BABY?
10:12:41AM >> YES.
10:12:42AM THE BABY WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF THE SCOOTER DRIVER, AND HE
10:12:46AM DID HAVE A HELMET ON, BUT THE BABY WAS MAYBE THREE YEARS
10:12:50AM OLD.
10:12:51AM IT WAS A SMALL CHILD.
10:12:52AM THEY WERE GOING EAST ON THE CYCLE TRACK ON JACKSON STREET.
10:13:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S COMPLETELY FOOLISH.
10:13:04AM [NO ENCODER]
10:13:06AM [NO ENCODER]
10:13:50AM -- I'M GOOD ON A MOTORCYCLE, GOOD ON A SKATEBOARD, BUT YOU
10:13:54AM HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION.
10:13:55AM IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT INJURIES, IF ANY
10:14:01AM INJURIES COME FROM THIS BECAUSE FOLKS ARE PLAYING ON THEIR
10:14:05AM PHONE AND LOOKING DOWN AND PEOPLE ON THE SIDEWALK AND
10:14:07AM WHATNOT, I HOPE THAT NOTHING DOES HAPPEN.
10:14:10AM WE'LL SEE.
10:14:12AM IT GIVES PEOPLE AN OPTION.
10:14:13AM WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN OR WE HAVE -- OF COURSE, YOU CAN WALK.
10:14:16AM WE HAVE UBER AND LYFT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:14:19AM THIS IS ONE THING TO ADD AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
10:14:24AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TWO THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION,
10:14:28AM WE CAN'T REGULATE STUPID WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A KID ON A
10:14:33AM SCOOTER.
10:14:34AM THAT'S INCREDIBLY STUPID.
10:14:35AM THE OTHER THING IS THE IMAGE OF MR. MANISCALCO ON A
10:14:37AM SKATEBOARD.
10:14:37AM I JUST CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD NOW.
10:14:41AM IN A SUIT, WELL, EVEN BETTER.
10:14:44AM >> YOU SHOULD SEE ME ZIPLINING.
10:14:46AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:14:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT IS FOR ANOTHER DAY.
10:14:48AM WE'LL SEE.
10:14:48AM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT IT TO BE A ROOFTOP CITY.
10:14:52AM YOU NEVER KNOW.
10:14:52AM WE MIGHT HAVE YOU DOING THAT.
10:14:54AM ANYWAY, BACK TO THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO REMEMBER
10:14:57AM IS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD DIFFERENT TYPES OF
10:15:00AM INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OTHER TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:15:04AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE KIND OF THINGS.
10:15:06AM I'M GLAD IT'S A PILOT PROJECT.
10:15:07AM ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID PREVIOUSLY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO
10:15:10AM PULL THE PLUG I THINK IS REASONABLE.
10:15:12AM I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAD REDUCED THE SPEED BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT
10:15:16AM WAS SAN DIEGO HAD A VERY BAD PROBLEM WITH FASTER SCOOTERS.
10:15:21AM AND THEY HAD A LOT OF INJURIES BECAUSE OF THAT.
10:15:25AM AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO DUMB
10:15:28AM THINGS.
10:15:29AM WE CAN ONLY PROVIDE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR FOLKS TO USE IT.
10:15:33AM BUT I WOULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:15:36AM ONE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD -- THE STAFF SHOULD GO AHEAD AND
10:15:41AM START TO LOBBY THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW
10:15:45AM THESE MOTORIZED SCOOTERS TO BE ON THE BIKE LANES.
10:15:49AM I DON'T LIKE THEM ON THE SIDEWALKS.
10:15:52AM I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY SEE BICYCLISTS ON
10:15:56AM SIDEWALKS.
10:15:57AM WE SEE BICYCLISTS ON THE RIVERWALK, WHICH IS ALLOWED, BUT
10:16:01AM STILL THERE ARE TIMES WHEN INSTEAD OF IT BEING TOURING,
10:16:05AM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE RACING.
10:16:07AM WE KNOW THAT IS A PROBLEM WE HAVE ON OUR RIVERWALK.
10:16:11AM I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
10:16:13AM I THINK WE MAY WANT TO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THE
10:16:17AM AGREEMENT, BUT JUST LIKE WE DO WITH COAST SHARE, THEY PICK
10:16:22AM UP THEIR BICYCLES WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF RANGE OR THEY ARE NOT
10:16:25AM IN THEIR OTHER AREAS.
10:16:26AM I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE A 100% REQUIREMENT FOR ALL OF
10:16:30AM THESE COMPANIES THAT THEY HAVE TO PICK IT UP WHEN THEY ARE
10:16:34AM NOT IN A CORRAL OR ROOST OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY CALL IT, SO
10:16:38AM WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN
10:16:40AM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:16:41AM I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO COME UP WITH
10:16:48AM THOSE ANSWERS.
10:16:49AM IF WE DON'T, WE'LL HAVE A SAFETY PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
10:16:53AM PEDESTRIANS, AND WE'LL HAVE A SAFETY PROBLEM FOR FOLKS THAT
10:16:56AM ARE RIDING THESE SCOOTERS.
10:16:58AM I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GET OUT OF HAND.
10:17:00AM I KNOW THAT THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OUT WEST,
10:17:03AM WHETHER SEATTLE OR PORTLAND OR LOS ANGELES, SAN DIEGO, I
10:17:07AM THINK DENVER MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES, TOO, I REALLY
10:17:11AM BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, BUT WE HAVE TO
10:17:16AM MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE IT WITH EACH ONE OF THE SCOOTER
10:17:18AM COMPANIES THAT COME IN TO SAY YOU WILL BE PROVIDING THESE
10:17:21AM KIND OF SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THESE SCOOTERS ARE PICKED UP
10:17:26AM IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER.
10:17:27AM IT SHOULD BE END OF DAY THEY SHOULD PICK THEM UP.
10:17:31AM THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRACK THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY
10:17:33AM PART OF THEIR SYSTEM, FIND THEM, TAKE THEM OFF THE STREET,
10:17:36AM PUT THEM IN WHATEVER CORRAL THEY ARE GOING TO BE AT, THAT'S
10:17:39AM FINE.
10:17:39AM BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THEM ON OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY AFTER THEY HAVE
10:17:42AM BEEN USED.
10:17:43AM JUST MAKE SURE TO BE DILIGENT ABOUT THAT.
10:17:45AM I DON'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU TO GO FORWARD
10:17:48AM TO TALK TO STAFF, TO LOBBY THE LEGISLATURE.
10:17:50AM I HOPE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PLANNED.
10:17:54AM >> I SHARED BACK SOME OF YOUR INPUT ALREADY.
10:17:59AM WE CAN CERTAINLY UPDATE YOU ON THOSE NEXT STEPS.
10:18:03AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE TIME FRAME YOU'RE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING
10:18:06AM THIS, AFTER -- WE JUST CLOSED THE APPLICATION.
10:18:09AM SO YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY SELECT SOMEBODY WITHIN THE NEXT
10:18:12AM 30 TO 60 DAYS?
10:18:14AM >> WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE
10:18:18AM ACTUAL PROGRAM WOULD START IN JANUARY.
10:18:20AM THAT WOULD START WITH THE OPERATORS COMING IN AND SUBMITTING
10:18:24AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITS.
10:18:26AM THERE'S GOING TO BE DESIGN DRAWINGS THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT.
10:18:30AM WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THE LOCATIONS.
10:18:32AM OUR SUSPICION IS IT PROBABLY WON'T BE UNTIL FEBRUARY THAT
10:18:35AM THE SCOOTERS ARE ACTUALLY BUZZING AROUND.
10:18:38AM AND WE CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE ALLOWING THEM FOR THE
10:18:40AM GASPARILLA PARADES WE'LL BE HAVING.
10:18:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE LOBBYING PORTION OF
10:18:45AM THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMITTEE WEEKS COMING UP
10:18:51AM VERY SOON AND BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION STARTS ON
10:18:53AM MARCH 5th, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND TRY AND HAVE
10:18:58AM SOME PLAN IN PLACE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO
10:19:03AM FIND A WAY OF HAVING A BILL OUT THERE THAT ACTUALLY CONTROLS
10:19:06AM THIS.
10:19:07AM I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT ARE
10:19:09AM EITHER ALREADY IMPLEMENTING THIS OR ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT IT.
10:19:14AM I DON'T THINK WE'RE THE FIRST, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
10:19:16AM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THOSE RULES ALLOW IT TO BE ON THE
10:19:19AM BIKE LANES BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.
10:19:21AM I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SAFER FOR EVERYBODY IF WE DO IT
10:19:24AM THAT WAY.
10:19:25AM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEDESTRIANS BUZZ BY THESE
10:19:29AM SCOOTERS AND HAVE MORE INJURIES BECAUSE OF FOLKS NOT DOING
10:19:34AM WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
10:19:36AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:19:37AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:19:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I RECALL, THERE WAS A FEE, I THINK
10:19:43AM 20,000, AND THEN A DOLLAR A DAY PER SCOOTER, WHATEVER
10:19:47AM COMPANY HAD.
10:19:48AM TECHNICALLY, IF YOU HAD 1800 SCOOTERS ON THE STREET, YOU HAD
10:19:50AM $1,800 COMING IN, TIMES 365 DAYS A YEAR.
10:19:54AM IT DOES NOT GO ANY FURTHER, IN CASE THEY RAISE THE RATES,
10:19:58AM THAT YOU STILL STAY AT A DOLLAR AND THEY ARE GETTING MORE.
10:20:01AM IS THERE ANY COMMENSURATE FOR PAY THE HIGHER IT GOES?
10:20:04AM >> YES.
10:20:06AM RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE SET FEES PROPOSED IN OUR PILOT FOR
10:20:09AM ADMINISTRATIVE COST COVERAGE.
10:20:12AM AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE ASKED ALL OF THE
10:20:15AM OPERATORS TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR POTENTIAL
10:20:21AM FUTURE REVENUE SHARING WITH THESE COMPANIES.
10:20:25AM SO WE WON'T BE DOING ANY REVENUE SHARING DURING THE PILOT,
10:20:29AM BUT WE WILL CONSIDER THAT, DEPENDING IF WE GO FORWARD OR
10:20:33AM NOT, POSSIBLY ENTERING INTO THAT KIND OF WORKING
10:20:36AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VENDORS, THE OPERATORS.
10:20:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT A LAWYER.
10:20:39AM I'M NOT A JUDGE, BUT I HAVE GREAT CONCERN THAT INDIVIDUALS
10:20:43AM WHO MAY SAY I MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, I PAY THE SAME --
10:20:47AM THE TAXES THAT THEY ARE USING TO RIDE THE SCOOTERS FOR MY
10:20:51AM SIDEWALK AND MY STREETS THAT I PAY TAXES AND MAINTAIN AND
10:20:53AM BRING UP, AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO RIDE MY OWN SCOOTER EVEN IF
10:20:57AM I MAKE THE ENGINE.
10:20:58AM THE INSURANCE POLICY THAT I INDEMNIFY THE CITY, I CAN'T DO
10:21:02AM IT.
10:21:03AM THEREFORE I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THIS SITUATION.
10:21:06AM 12 SQUARE MILES IS A LONG AREA, BIG AREA.
10:21:08AM IT GOES FROM THE POINT OF DAVIS ISLAND ALL THE WAY TO MLK.
10:21:12AM IT GOES FROM I THINK ARMENIA ALL THE WAY TO 40th STREET.
10:21:15AM THAT'S AN ENORMOUS AREA TO HAVE.
10:21:17AM FOR A PILOT PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE ALL THAT AREA,
10:21:23AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:21:24AM YOU'RE GOING TO FIND SCOOTERS EVERYWHERE.
10:21:25AM YOU FIND BICYCLES NOW EVERYWHERE.
10:21:27AM THANK YOU.
10:21:31AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:21:32AM I AGREE.
10:21:33AM I HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN IT WAS STATED THAT A PRIVATE CITIZEN
10:21:37AM COULDN'T RIDE THEIR SCOOTER, I THOUGHT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO
10:21:42AM GO OVER VERY WELL.
10:21:43AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO OVER AT ALL.
10:21:45AM THEY'LL ACCUSE THE CITY OF BEING MONEY HUNGRY.
10:21:53AM NOT ALLOWING PRIVATE CITIZENS THEIR SCOOTERS.
10:21:57AM I DON'T SEE THAT AS A WIN-WIN.
10:21:59AM I DON'T SEE IT AS A WIN-WIN AT ALL.
10:22:00AM I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT, TOO.
10:22:04AM I'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM, BUT THOSE ARE MY
10:22:13AM CONCERNS.
10:22:14AM THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO THIS, BUT
10:22:16AM BACK YEARS AGO, IT WAS DOWN IN KEY WEST, AND THEY ARE A BIKE
10:22:20AM CULTURE.
10:22:20AM AND THERE'S NO ROOM ON THE STREET TO RIDE YOUR BIKE.
10:22:24AM YOU RIDE IT ON THE SIDEWALK.
10:22:25AM BUT THEY HAVE A PROTOCOL WHERE THEY HAVE -- ALL THE BIKES
10:22:30AM HAVE A SMALL LITTLE HORN ON IT.
10:22:32AM THEY TELL YOU LEFT OR RIGHT.
10:22:34AM AND THEY'LL TELL YOU THEY ARE COMING LEFT, YOU MOVE RIGHT
10:22:36AM FROM THE BACK OF YOU.
10:22:38AM IT WORKED VERY WELL WARNING THE PERSON IN FRONT THAT THEY'RE
10:22:45AM COMING.
10:22:45AM ANYWAY, I WISH THE BEST SUCCESS, BUT I HAVE MY CONCERNS.
10:22:53AM THANK YOU.
10:22:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO, DID YOU WANT TO READ NUMBER
10:22:56AM 10.
10:22:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:22:58AM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:23:00AM CONSIDERATION.
10:23:01AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING CITY OF
10:23:04AM TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 25, TRANSPORTATION, TO
10:23:07AM CREATE GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO SHARED MOBILITY
10:23:10AM DEVICES INCLUDING SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTERS AND TO CREATE A
10:23:13AM SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER PILOT PROGRAM; AMENDING SECTION
10:23:17AM 25-4 TO ADD DEFINITIONS RELATED TO SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES
10:23:21AM INCLUDING SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTERS; AMENDING SECTION 25-173
10:23:26AM TO ESTABLISH A SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER PILOT PROGRAM IN THE
10:23:29AM CITY; ADDING SECTION 25-173.1 PROVIDING FOR PROVISIONS
10:23:35AM RELATED TO SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER RESTRICTIONS AND
10:23:37AM PENALTIES; ADDING SECTION 25-173.2 PROVIDING FOR PROVISIONS
10:23:42AM RELATED TO SHARED MOBILITY DEVICE OPERATION RESTRICTIONS AND
10:23:45AM PENALTIES; AMENDING CHAPTER 23.5, SUPPLEMENTAL ENFORCEMENT
10:23:49AM PROCEDURES, SECTION 23.5-5, SCHEDULE OF VIOLATIONS AND
10:23:53AM PENALTIES, SUBSECTIONS A AND D TO ADD PENALTIES FOR
10:23:56AM VIOLATIONS OF SECTION 25-173.1 AND 25-173.2, REPEALING ALL
10:24:02AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
10:24:06AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:24:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:24:10AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:24:11AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:24:13AM THOSE OPPOSED?
10:24:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NAY.
10:24:15AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:24:20AM DECEMBER 6, 2018 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:24:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
10:24:46AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:24:49AM ITEMS 11 AND 12 OF YOUR AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTIONS.
10:24:52AM YOU TYPICALLY HAVE FIRST READING TODAY AND YOU HAVE YOUR
10:24:55AM PRESENTATION AND PUBLIC HEARING AT SECOND READING.
10:25:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO
10:25:02AM COMMENT ON ITEMS 11 OR 12?
10:25:05AM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE NUMBER 11?
10:25:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SURE.
10:25:16AM I'LL TAKE NUMBER 1.
10:25:18AM PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:25:20AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
10:25:24AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:25:26AM RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
10:25:29AM YBOR OLIVA LLC LOCATED AT 2008 NORTH 19th STREET, TAMPA,
10:25:36AM FLORIDA, IN THE YBOR CITY NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:25:39AM DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE
10:25:43AM TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING
10:25:44AM FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10:25:48AM CONFLICT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:25:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:25:58AM WHAT THIS IS, INDIVIDUALS THAT TAKE BUILDINGS THAT ARE
10:26:00AM REALLY DILAPIDATED AND THEY ARE HISTORICAL AND THEY SPEND A
10:26:04AM LOT OF MONEY ON THEM.
10:26:07AM IF IT WOULDN'T BE FOR THEM, THEY WOULD BE SOMEWHAT
10:26:09AM DEMOLISHED BY NATURE OR SOMETHING.
10:26:11AM TO KEEP THE QUALITY OF LIFE GOING, THE CITIES, COUNTIES AND
10:26:15AM GOVERNMENT GIVE THEM A TAX BREAK FOR TEN YEARS BECAUSE OF
10:26:17AM THE MULTITUDE OF MONEY THEY PUT IN FAR EXCEEDS WHAT WE'RE
10:26:21AM GETTING BACK.
10:26:22AM IN THE LONG TERM, IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR US TO HAVE.
10:26:25AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, SO THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND.
10:26:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:26:29AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:26:30AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:33AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:26:34AM OKAY.
10:26:36AM COUNCILMAN COHEN, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM NUMBER 12.
10:26:39AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:26:41AM DECEMBER 6th, 2018 AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING.
10:26:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:26:46AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:26:53AM READING CONSIDERATION.
10:26:54AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
10:26:58AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:27:00AM RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
10:27:03AM RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS HOLDINGS II, LLC, LOCATED AT 1910 NORTH
10:27:10AM OLA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS;
10:27:15AM PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
10:27:17AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING
10:27:19AM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN
10:27:22AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:27:25AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:26AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:27AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:28AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:27:30AM DECEMBER 6th, 2018 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:27:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE GO TO COMMITTEES.
10:27:38AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:27:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 13 THROUGH --
10:27:42AM >> SECOND.
10:27:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:45AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:27:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:48AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:51AM I MOVE ITEMS 17 AND 18.
10:27:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:57AM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
10:28:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:01AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:01AM NEXT, COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, PUBLIC WORKS.
10:28:05AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE ITEMS 19 THROUGH 39.
10:28:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN AND
10:28:11AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:14AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:14AM NEXT, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU PULLED ITEM --
10:28:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 49.
10:28:21AM COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:28:23AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.
10:28:25AM I MOVE ITEMS 40 THROUGH 46.
10:28:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:28:31AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:28:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:34AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:34AM NEXT, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, IF YOU COULD TAKE THE BUILDING AND
10:28:39AM ZONING.
10:28:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:28:40AM I MOVE ITEMS 47 AND 48 AND ITEMS 50 THROUGH 67.
10:28:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:28:48AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:28:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:51AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:28:58AM I MOVE ITEMS 68 THROUGH 73.
10:29:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, A
10:29:05AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:07AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND, CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO SET ITEMS 74 AND 75
10:29:14AM FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON DECEMBER 13, 2018, AT 5:30 P.M. AND
10:29:19AM SECOND READING JANUARY 10th, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M. FOR ITEM
10:29:25AM NUMBER 74, AND JANUARY 17 -- I'M SORRY, DECEMBER 20th,
10:29:29AM 2018, FOR ITEM 75.
10:29:31AM AND JANUARY 17th, 2019 FOR ITEM NUMBER 75.
10:29:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:29:39AM A SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:29:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:42AM NOW IT'S TIME FOR OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR SECOND
10:29:47AM READING.
10:29:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'D LIKE TO OPEN ITEMS 76 THROUGH 82.
10:29:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:29:54AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:58AM LET'S SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
10:30:05AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:30:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MIGHT WANT TO ANNOUNCE WHICH ITEMS THEY ARE
10:30:14AM BEING SWORN IN FOR BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHICH
10:30:19AM ITEM --
10:30:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:30:20AM 76 THROUGH 78 AND I GUESS ALL THE WAY TO 82, IT APPEARS.
10:30:26AM GO AHEAD.
10:30:28AM >>KRISTIN MORA: FOR CLARITY, ITEMS 76 THROUGH 78 ARE
10:30:33AM LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDINGS.
10:30:34AM ITEM NUMBER 76, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:30:40AM ON THIS ITEM, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CHANGE TO CHAPTER 13 TO
10:30:46AM ADD A TREE REMOVAL ZONE PROVISION FOR SMALL LOTS IN CHAPTER
10:30:52AM 13.
10:30:52AM I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVED YESTERDAY A REQUEST THAT THIS
10:30:56AM ITEM BE CONTINUED.
10:30:58AM IT IS PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY ON SECOND READING, BUT YOU
10:31:00AM RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM MS. MARY LOU BAILEY YESTERDAY ASKING
10:31:05AM THAT THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED TO TRAVEL CLOSER TO BEING
10:31:10AM CONCURRENT WITH THE CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27 REGARDING
10:31:13AM ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES TO SETBACKS IN ORDER TO SAVE 24-INCH
10:31:17AM AND LARGER TREES.
10:31:18AM I DON'T KNOW IF CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT
10:31:22AM CONTINUANCE REQUEST FIRST OR HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
10:31:29AM >>HARRY COHEN: WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE.
10:31:30AM WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CONTINUANCE REQUEST, BUT WE
10:31:30AM HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE -- I MEAN --
10:31:31AM I THOUGHT THESE THINGS WERE TRAVELING TOGETHER.
10:31:38AM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW THEY'VE BLOWN APART.
10:31:41AM HOW QUICKLY CAN THE SETBACK SHIFTING ORDINANCE MAKE ITS WAY
10:31:50AM BACK HERE?
10:31:51AM >>KRISTIN MORA: IT IS IN THE JANUARY CYCLE, WHICH BEGINS ON
10:31:53AM JANUARY 15th.
10:31:54AM THE EARLIEST COUNCIL HAS A WORKSHOP, JANUARY 31st, TWO
10:31:59AM WEEKS AFTER THE CYCLE BEGINS.
10:32:00AM WE ARE PREPARED AND IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND
10:32:02AM SET IT FOR THAT WORKSHOP DATE, JANUARY 31st, WE'LL BE HERE
10:32:06AM PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
10:32:08AM >>HARRY COHEN: ALL THAT'S GOING TO DO -- I MEAN, WE'RE
10:32:11AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON THIS.
10:32:12AM THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
10:32:14AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS -- WHY WE'RE NOT READY TO
10:32:18AM TRANSMIT THIS YET, WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP.
10:32:23AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
10:32:23AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CHAPTER 27 PROVIDES THAT IT CAN BE AMENDED
10:32:26AM TWICE A YEAR.
10:32:27AM THE CYCLES START ON JULY 15 AND JANUARY 15.
10:32:30AM THIS CAME UP AS AN ISSUE IN THE AUGUST 30th WORKSHOP AFTER
10:32:33AM THE JULY 15 DATE.
10:32:35AM SO THE NEXT TIME THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN CYCLE, PER CODE, IS
10:32:38AM THE JANUARY 15th CYCLE.
10:32:39AM AND THIS COUNCIL -- YES, COUNCIL HAS ALREADY MOVED AND PUT
10:32:49AM THAT IN THE JANUARY CYCLE.
10:32:50AM SO WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
10:32:51AM AS I SAID, WE'LL BE HERE ON JANUARY 31st AND READY TO
10:32:55AM ADDRESS IT IN A WORKSHOP.
10:32:56AM IT'S JUST THAT'S THE VERY SOONEST WE COULD HAVE IT TO YOU
10:32:59AM AND READY TO TRANSMIT.
10:33:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ARE THE SETBACKS IF WE PASS THIS
10:33:05AM TODAY?
10:33:06AM CAN YOU TELL ME THAT?
10:33:07AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE SETBACKS IN THESE
10:33:11AM CODES.
10:33:12AM WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN CODE IS A ONE-FOOT CHANGE ON THE SIGNS
10:33:16AM AND 25%, EXCEPT FOR IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS, SOUTH TAMPA AND A
10:33:20AM COUPLE OF OTHER DISTRICTS, IT'S ONLY 10% FOR THE FRONT AND
10:33:23AM REAR YARD THAT CAN BE SHIFTED IN ORDER TO SAVE A TREE.
10:33:25AM BUT IN MOST DISTRICTS, IT'S 25%.
10:33:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON IS, MR. COHEN ALLUDED TO
10:33:34AM EARLIER, ANY TRAIN CAN GET DERAILED.
10:33:40AM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SO LONG FROM BOTH SIDES, THEY GOT TO
10:33:44AM BE EXASPERATED.
10:33:47AM EVERY TIME WE GET CLOSE TO FINISHING, SOMEBODY WRITES.
10:33:51AM I REALLY -- I DON'T GET MAD AT NOBODY, BUT NO ONE HAD THE
10:33:55AM RIGHT TO SUPERSEDE SEVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT PASSED
10:33:58AM SOMETHING TO WRITE AN ORDINANCE AT THE LAST MINUTE AND
10:34:00AM PRESENT IT TO US.
10:34:01AM I LOOKED AT IT AND I SAID, WHAT IS THIS?
10:34:03AM IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. BELIEVE ME, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.
10:34:07AM BUT SOMEONE DID THAT WITHOUT CONSENT AND ASKING THE SEVEN,
10:34:11AM WHETHER THEY LIKE US OR NOT, DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, WHAT IS
10:34:15AM GOING ON.
10:34:17AM THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ANSWER.
10:34:18AM WE NEVER ASKED FOR COURTESY NOT TO CREATE A RAUCOUS.
10:34:23AM WHO GAVE THAT PERSON THE INSTRUCTIONS TO CHANGE?
10:34:28AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:34:28AM I STILL DON'T KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO ASK.
10:34:30AM BUT EVERY TIME WE GET CLOSE TO DOING SOMETHING, SOMETHING
10:34:36AM HAPPENS.
10:34:36AM AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES HERE TODAY.
10:34:39AM THEY ARE BOTH HERE.
10:34:40AM I CAN SEE THEM IN THE FRONT ROW AND THROUGHOUT THE AUDIENCE,
10:34:44AM WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE.
10:34:45AM BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT THEM TOGETHER TO BE MARRIED.
10:34:48AM DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T GO SEPARATELY AND BE TOGETHER AT THE
10:34:51AM END.
10:34:52AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
10:34:53AM ANOTHER OPTION THE CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE IS TO HAVE A
10:34:56AM DELAYED EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THESE THAT WOULD COINCIDE AS
10:34:58AM WELL.
10:34:58AM THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION YOU COULD USE.
10:35:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I RECALL, THIS DID.
10:35:02AM SOMEBODY TOOK THE VRB OUT, AM I CORRECT?
10:35:05AM AND THEN WE PUT IT BACK IN.
10:35:08AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ON A LATER ORDINANCE
10:35:10AM TO COME TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
10:35:12AM IT IS BEING PUT BACK INTO THAT DRAFT.
10:35:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYWAY, IS THERE ANY LEGAL DAMAGE TO THE
10:35:21AM CITY IF WE AS IN?
10:35:22AM -- IF WE PASS THIS?
10:35:30AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I AM NOT AWARE OF A SPECIFIC LEGAL PROBLEM
10:35:32AM WITH PASSING THESE ORDINANCES TODAY.
10:35:34AM THEY ARE PROPERLY BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
10:35:36AM THERE IS ONLY THE POTENTIAL POLICY ISSUES THAT WOULD COME
10:35:44AM WITH DOING THEM SEPARATELY.
10:35:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES BEFORE
10:35:48AM WE CONTINUE.
10:35:49AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:35:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:51AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:35:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:35:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO WE SET THE POLICY?
10:35:57AM OKAY, SO THE POLICY ISSUE IS SOMETHING WE SET.
10:36:00AM SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADJUST.
10:36:02AM >> WE'VE BEEN TRYING.
10:36:05AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
10:36:07AM I GOT IT.
10:36:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL
10:36:10AM BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC?
10:36:11AM OKAY.
10:36:12AM IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 76 OR DO 76 AND 77 TOGETHER
10:36:18AM OR SEPARATE OR --
10:36:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO THEY TRAVEL TOGETHER OR SEPARATE ISSUES
10:36:28AM THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY?
10:36:30AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO ONE
10:36:33AM ANOTHER, IF COUNCIL WANTED TO HEAR THEM TOGETHER, I THINK
10:36:37AM YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO SO.
10:36:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.
10:36:43AM >>KRISTIN MORA: IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
10:36:48AM >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT YOU PROBABLY SHOULD OPEN THE
10:36:50AM OTHER HEARING.
10:36:51AM >> THEY ARE ALL OPEN.
10:36:54AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: 76 TO GO TOGETHER.
10:36:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY ARE OPENED THROUGH 82, SIR.
10:37:00AM >> WE'LL TAKE 76 AND 77 TOGETHER.
10:37:02AM IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE AS TO ONE, PLEASE SPECIFY.
10:37:05AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: BASICALLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
10:37:08AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND TREE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING FOR A
10:37:12AM LONG TIME.
10:37:13AM THIS HAS BEEN NEARLY A THREE-YEAR PROCESS.
10:37:15AM AND WE ARE VERY EAGER TO GET THESE TWO PORTIONS OF THE
10:37:19AM ORDINANCE ADOPTED AND MOVE ON, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO VERY
10:37:23AM SUPPORTIVE OF EXPEDITING THE REVIEW FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR
10:37:30AM THE SETBACKS THAT ALLOW FOR THE TREES TO BE SAVED SO YOU CAN
10:37:35AM ADJUST THE SETBACK WITHOUT GOING FOR A VARIANCE, SO IT WILL
10:37:39AM BE GOING FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
10:37:42AM WE WOULD STRONGLY URGE COUNCIL TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO
10:37:46AM EXPEDITE THAT.
10:37:47AM THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNICAL ELEMENTS IN HERE.
10:37:49AM WE HAVE THE LARGER PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE COMING BACK TO
10:37:52AM YOU WHICH REMOVE THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND EVERYBODY
10:37:56AM AGREED, LET'S PUT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD BACK IN THERE.
10:38:00AM IT IS A VOLUMINOUS AND EXTENSIVE TASK TO GET THROUGH ALL OF
10:38:03AM THE LANGUAGE AND THE PARTS YOU HAVEN'T SEEN YET.
10:38:08AM BUT WE ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT.
10:38:10AM WE WOULD URGE YOU TO ADOPT THESE TWO ORDINANCES AS QUICKLY
10:38:15AM AS POSSIBLE AND HAVE SECOND READINGS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
10:38:18AM AT LEAST WITH THAT SECTION OF IT SO WE HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE
10:38:21AM OF PROGRESS.
10:38:22AM WITHOUT THAT, AND IF YOU START DELAYING PORTIONS WE HAVE
10:38:27AM ALREADY BEEN THROUGH, THEN WE RUN THE RISK OF THEM NOT BEING
10:38:31AM ADOPTED OR GETTING CONFUSED AND MIXED UP WITH SUBSEQUENT
10:38:34AM REQUESTS FOR ORDINANCES.
10:38:35AM I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT, AND WE'VE
10:38:40AM MET WITH YOU FROM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND VARIOUS
10:38:44AM PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:38:46AM WE ARE ALL VERY TIRED AND WEARY.
10:38:50AM AND I KNOW THE STAFF IS WEARY AS WELL.
10:38:52AM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU MOVE THIS FORWARD.
10:38:55AM THESE TWO ORDINANCES, 76 AND 77, AND THEN EXPEDITE THE
10:39:02AM ADMINISTRATIVE REMOVAL PROCESS FOR ADJUSTING THE SETBACKS AS
10:39:06AM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:39:07AM AND THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION STANDS IN SUPPORT OF THAT ALONG
10:39:13AM WITH TREE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
10:39:14AM I KNOW KELSEY WILL GET UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
10:39:18AM DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND STAND WITH ME, YOU CAN.
10:39:21AM BUT WE ALL WANT THIS STUFF TO START MOVING.
10:39:25AM WE'VE WAITED AND WE'VE WAITED AND WE'VE WAITED.
10:39:28AM IT'S TIME TO MOVE.
10:39:29AM THANK YOU.
10:39:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:39:33AM >> I HAVE THESE, IF YOU WANT THESE LETTERS TO BE RECEIVED.
10:39:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING ON THE ITEMS, CAN
10:39:42AM YOU STAND UP?
10:39:43AM JUST SO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTENDING TO SPEAK.
10:39:46AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
10:39:47AM I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
10:39:48AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:39:50AM JUST TO CLARIFY, ON 1 MARCH, THIS COUNCIL -- SORRY, CYNTHIA
10:40:14AM DUNCAN, WEST BARCELONA STREET.
10:40:16AM ON 1 MARCH, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT AN ORDINANCE THAT THE
10:40:19AM CITY STAFF WROTE AND RECOMMENDED BY A VOTE OF 4-2 GO TO
10:40:24AM PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:40:25AM THAT ORDINANCE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 9th OF
10:40:29AM THIS YEAR.
10:40:30AM IN THAT ORDINANCE WAS THE HIGHLIGHTED VERBIAGE THAT YOU SEE
10:40:35AM HERE.
10:40:35AM IT CALLED FOR SHIFTING THE FOOTPRINT TO MAKE ROOM FOR TREES
10:40:38AM BY 25% ALL THE WAY AROUND.
10:40:41AM IN ADDITION TO CHANGING THIS, THEY FOUND IT INCONSISTENT, SO
10:40:45AM WE WORKED FOR SEVEN AND A HALF MONTHS NOW, COLLABORATING
10:40:48AM WITH THE BUILDERS AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS, AND CAME UP WITH A
10:40:52AM SOLUTION.
10:40:52AM SO WE SUBMITTED THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE, THE ORDINANCE THAT'S
10:40:57AM BEFORE YOU TODAY, CHANGES TO THE MITIGATION FROM WOOD TO
10:40:59AM CANOPY THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING, AND A
10:41:02AM THIRD PIECE WAS SUBMITTED THAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
10:41:07AM LEGAL TOLD US THAT CAN'T GO FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF
10:41:11AM THIS PLANNING CYCLE.
10:41:12AM WE WENT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH, THEY SAID
10:41:16AM THAT ALL OF THIS WAS PART OF THE JULY 31st PLANNING CYCLE.
10:41:19AM YOU SEE THE WORDS BEFORE YOU THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT SETBACK
10:41:24AM REDUCTIONS TO SAVE TREES.
10:41:26AM THEY WERE IN THAT APRIL PLANNING COMMISSION ORDINANCE.
10:41:29AM SO HOW IS THE SETBACK REDUCTION NOT IN THE 31 JULY PLANNING
10:41:33AM CYCLE.
10:41:33AM HOW CAN THEY NOT ADDRESS IT IMMEDIATELY?
10:41:35AM THE SETBACKS TO SAVE TREES ARE KEY TO THE WHOLE REWRITE,
10:41:39AM BECAUSE WHAT'S REASONABLE RECONFIGURATION?
10:41:42AM HOW MUCH DOES A BUILDER OR A HOMEOWNER HAVE TO DO TO TRY TO
10:41:45AM SAVE A TREE.
10:41:46AM THE SETBACKS RIGHT NOW IN THREE OF THE FOUR PLANNING
10:41:49AM DISTRICTS, THREE OF THE FOUR RIGHT NOW ARE ONE FOOT ON THE
10:41:53AM SIDES, 10% FRONT AND REAR.
10:41:55AM THAT MEANS YOU CAN ONLY MOVE YOUR HOUSE TWO FEET BACK TO
10:41:57AM SAVE A GRAND TREE.
10:41:59AM WE FEEL THAT IS WOEFULLY INSUFFICIENT.
10:42:01AM IF THE TWO FEET IS NOT ENOUGH AND YOU'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN
10:42:04AM THE GRAND TREE.
10:42:05AM SO WE PROPOSE, AND HERE IT IS AGAIN, I GAVE IT TO YOU
10:42:09AM BEFORE, THAT THESE WORDS GO IN WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, THEY
10:42:13AM ARE LIKE EVEN THE MOST ARDENT TREE LOVERS LIKE ONE FOOT ON
10:42:18AM THE SIDES, THAT ALL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HANDLE WITH NO
10:42:21AM NOTICE.
10:42:21AM IT'S AUTOMATIC, ONLY TO SAVE GRAND AND ALMOST GRAND,
10:42:26AM 24 INCHES AND BIGGER THAT WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF.
10:42:27AM BUT THEY SAID 25% IN THE FRONT WHICH MATCHES UP WITH THE
10:42:30AM OTHER PLANNING DISTRICT.
10:42:31AM AND 40% IN THE REAR, FOR THE 20-FOOT BACKYARDS, YOU'RE
10:42:35AM TALKING EIGHT FEET.
10:42:36AM THAT GIVES YOU THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU'VE GOT TO CARVE
10:42:39AM OUT TO SAVE A GRAND TREE.
10:42:40AM I KNOW WE BRIEFED ALL OF YOU.
10:42:42AM WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO GET ON MS. CAPIN'S SCHEDULE, BUT WE'RE
10:42:46AM STILL TRYING.
10:42:47AM IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
10:42:48AM WE DIDN'T WANT TO ADMINISTRATIVELY MAKE IT EASIER TO REMOVE
10:42:52AM TREES THROUGH THE TREE REMOVAL ZONES ON THE SMALL LOTS WHERE
10:42:52AM IT'S HARD TO WORK AROUND THEM AND NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY MAKE
10:42:57AM IT EASY TO SHIFT A HOUSE TO SAVE A TREE.
10:43:00AM THAT WAS THE BALANCE THAT THE TREE PEOPLE WANTED, SO WE
10:43:03AM IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE EXPEDITE THIS SETBACK PIECE.
10:43:07AM IF WE DON'T START TALKING ABOUT IT UNTIL AFTER 31 JANUARY, I
10:43:10AM SEE NO WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES.
10:43:13AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:21AM >> JOHN LUM.
10:43:23AM 2011 BAY POINT CIRCLE.
10:43:25AM I JUST WANTED TO COME UP HERE TO THANK ALL SEVEN OF YOU.
10:43:31AM CAME OUT OF MEETINGS AND EVERY TIME I SEE YOU GUYS, TALK
10:43:36AM ABOUT TREES.
10:43:36AM WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS.
10:43:40AM SEVEN AND A HALF MONTHS.
10:43:41AM DRANK A LOT OF TEA AT CHELSEA'S HOUSE.
10:43:45AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TEA.
10:43:46AM WE'VE HAD DOZENS AND DOZENS OF MEETINGS, FOLKS.
10:43:49AM YES, WE COULD ALWAYS TWEAK AND DELAY ONE MORE TIME.
10:43:54AM THE WORKSHOPS WE HAVE DONE, WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF GOING TO
10:43:57AM WORKSHOPS.
10:43:57AM ONE WENT ON LAST NIGHT.
10:44:00AM I COULDN'T MAKE IT TO IT.
10:44:01AM I'M HERE, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
10:44:06AM JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING THIS
10:44:10AM AND FINISH IT.
10:44:11AM IF THERE ARE TWEAKS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE.
10:44:13AM WE HAVE TO WORK HAND IN HAND.
10:44:15AM WE HAVE TO GET HERE.
10:44:16AM HOW MONUMENTAL IS THIS.
10:44:17AM WHAT A LEARNING LESSON FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCILS THAT
10:44:22AM INDUSTRY, NEIGHBORHOODS CAN GET TOGETHER, WORK WITH THE CITY
10:44:26AM COUNCIL.
10:44:27AM GUESS WHAT, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:44:28AM MAYBE WE DON'T NEED STAFF IF WE CAN GET THE RIGHT THINGS
10:44:31AM DONE AMONGST OURSELVES.
10:44:32AM AND DO SOMETHING -- CAN'T TOUCH THAT TREE CODE.
10:44:37AM DON'T TOUCH THE TREE CODE.
10:44:37AM THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
10:44:41AM EVERYBODY IS TOGETHER ON THIS, AND, SURE, WE GOT CRAZY
10:44:41AM BUILDERS THAT WANT TO SLASH AND BURN.
10:44:42AM THERE ARE TREE FOLKS WHO DON'T WANT TO EVER CUT ANOTHER TREE
10:44:49AM DOWN IN THE CITY.
10:44:50AM THIS IS A COMMONSENSE AND COLLECTIVE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE
10:44:54AM GOING TO WORK ON.
10:44:55AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE-YEAR STUDIES.
10:44:56AM IF WE SEE THE TREE CANOPY GOING DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT.
10:45:00AM WE DON'T WANT THAT EITHER.
10:45:01AM BUT WE WANT A GOOD MITIGATION POLICY.
10:45:04AM WE WANT TO PAY MORE MONEY INTO THE TREE FUND, AND WE WANT TO
10:45:08AM KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
10:45:10AM TREES ARE GETTING REPLANTED IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE
10:45:12AM THEY MIGHT BE TAKEN OUT.
10:45:13AM BUT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ALL AMAZING.
10:45:16AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE MEETINGS, ALL THE TIME.
10:45:19AM THE COFFEE MACHINE, I GOT ONE FOR MY OFFICE.
10:45:25AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: CITY COUNCIL SHOULD GET A COMMISSION ON
10:45:27AM THOSE COFFEE MACHINES.
10:45:28AM WE'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE PUT THEM IN THEIR OFFICE.
10:45:31AM >> ALL THE MEETINGS ARE GREAT.
10:45:32AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:45:34AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE COULD USE IT IN OUR BUDGET.
10:45:36AM THANK YOU.
10:45:37AM >> STAY COMMITTED TO GET THIS DONE AND DO THE RIGHT THING
10:45:39AM FOR THE CITY.
10:45:40AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:45:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:45:48AM JOHNSON, 3313 HOME COURT IN TAMPA.
10:45:51AM I AM THE FOUNDER OF TREE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, THE
10:45:55AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP OF TREE LOVERS AND VOLUNTEERS.
10:45:58AM I WANTED TO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, GIVE A QUICK
10:46:02AM TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY AND HOW THE TREE GROUP AND
10:46:06AM THE BUILDERS WERE ABLE TO COLLABORATE ON SOMETHING.
10:46:10AM WE HAVE WORKED THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS -- I REACHED OUT TO
10:46:13AM THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, GINA GRIMES IN MARCH,
10:46:17AM AND OFFERED TO HELP COLLABORATE ON A TREE REMOVAL ZONE,
10:46:23AM WHICH WE FEEL GIVES PROPERTY OWNERS THE ABILITY TO USE THEIR
10:46:28AM PROPERTY AS THEY SEE THEY NEED TO.
10:46:31AM IN ADDITION, PROTECT OUR TREE CANOPY.
10:46:33AM JUST FOR A QUICK BACKGROUND.
10:46:35AM TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL TO
10:46:40AM HELP US COLLABORATE ON THIS EFFORT, AND WE'RE REALLY
10:46:42AM APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
10:46:44AM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO TALK ABOUT TREES.
10:46:46AM THEY REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT TREES RIGHT NOW.
10:46:48AM TREES ARE ON THE MIND.
10:46:50AM WE HAVE THE TREE CODE REWRITE.
10:46:53AM WHAT WE HAVE DONE, IS WE HAVE TAKEN HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF
10:46:57AM PUBLIC INPUT, WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY DON'T WANT, WHAT WE
10:47:02AM FEEL.
10:47:03AM WE'VE ALSO TAKEN INPUT FROM THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS
10:47:05AM ASSOCIATION, LITERALLY ON THE SAME DAY, BUILDERS IN THE
10:47:08AM MORNING AND THE TREE LOVERS IN THE AFTERNOON, AND WE HAVE
10:47:10AM COLLABORATED ON SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS REPRESENTATIVE OF
10:47:15AM THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:47:16AM WE WANT THE ADMINISTRATIVE SETBACKS TO BE EXPEDITED.
10:47:20AM AGAIN, TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, WE GAVE THE BUILDERS THE
10:47:24AM TREE REMOVAL ZONE.
10:47:26AM WE SHRUNK THAT TREE REMOVAL ZONE TO SAVE MORE TREES.
10:47:29AM IN EXCHANGE, WE HAVE ASKED THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS
10:47:32AM ASSOCIATION TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH US AND ALLOW FOR
10:47:36AM ADMINISTRATIVE SETBACKS TO SAVE MORE TREES.
10:47:39AM THEY HAVE BEEN COOPERATIVE AND COLLABORATIVE.
10:47:41AM I REACHED OUT TO THEM YESTERDAY WHEN I REALIZED THAT THE
10:47:45AM SETBACK REDUCTIONS WERE NOT GOING TO BE EXPEDITED AFTER ALL.
10:47:49AM I ASK YOU TO NOT WAIT FOR A BRAND-NEW CYCLE TO EXPEDITE THE
10:47:53AM ADMINISTRATIVE SETBACKS.
10:47:55AM WHAT WE HAVE WORKED ON FOR HUNDREDS OF HOURS SO THAT WE CAN
10:47:57AM SAVE THE MOST TREES AS POSSIBLE AND PROTECT OUR CANOPY.
10:48:00AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:48:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:48:12AM GARY BROWN, 491 SEVERN AVENUE.
10:48:16AM I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 76 AND 77, AND I'M ALSO HERE
10:48:20AM TO ASK YOU TO ADOPT THEM AS THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU
10:48:22AM TODAY.
10:48:23AM I REALLY CAN'T ADD MUCH TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID TODAY.
10:48:31AM AS A SITTING VRB BOARD MEMBER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT'S
10:48:37AM BEING ASKED FOR WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT COME UP
10:48:40AM IN FRONT OF THE VRB IF THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES ARE
10:48:44AM ALLOWED WITHIN REASON, BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
10:48:47AM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION HAS AGREED TO WHAT'S BEEN
10:48:52AM REQUESTED.
10:48:52AM I KNOW AS THE VRB BOARD MEMBER THERE MIGHT BE PUSH-BACK FROM
10:48:57AM OTHERS ABOUT THAT.
10:48:57AM SO BY EXPEDITING THIS AND NOT HOLDING THIS UP TODAY, BUT BY
10:49:02AM REQUESTING THE EXPEDITION OF THIS FURTHER DISCUSSION IS A
10:49:06AM GOOD THING.
10:49:07AM IT WILL CAUSE THE DISCUSSIONS TO HAPPEN QUICKLY, AND I THINK
10:49:10AM WE CAN STAY FOCUSED ON IT AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH WHATEVER
10:49:13AM THAT RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE, WHETHER IT'S WHAT TSSS
10:49:17AM IS ASKING FOR OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT
10:49:20AM DIFFERENT.
10:49:20AM BUT KEEP IN MIND, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE D.E. PROCESS THAT
10:49:25AM ALLOWS FOR SOME ADMINISTRATIVE MOVEMENT.
10:49:29AM SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NOT THERE AT ALL.
10:49:31AM IT'S THERE.
10:49:31AM IT'S BEEN THERE.
10:49:32AM IT'S BEEN WORKING.
10:49:33AM THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH MORE LATITUDE ARE YOU WILLING TO
10:49:39AM GIVE STAFF?
10:49:39AM IT'S NOT A HARD QUESTION, AND THEN PUT IT BACK INTO
10:49:44AM PERSPECTIVE BASED ON THE SMALL LOT DEFINITIONS OVER THE PAST
10:49:49AM 38 TO 39 YEARS, WE'VE ONLY SEEN ABOUT 300 TO 350 PROPERTIES
10:49:54AM THAT THIS COULD EVEN COME UP CITYWIDE.
10:49:57AM IT'S NOT A HUGE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES.
10:50:01AM EVEN IF YOU THOUGHT YOU MADE A MISTAKE AND WEIGHED IN TOO
10:50:04AM MUCH VARIANCE MOVEMENT OR NOT ENOUGH, WE'RE NOT TALKING
10:50:09AM ABOUT THAT MANY PROPERTIES ANYWAY.
10:50:11AM I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT WITH YOU.
10:50:13AM THANK YOU.
10:50:14AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE.
10:50:16AM I WANT TO POINT EVERYONE TO SECTION 27-151 OF THE ZONING AND
10:50:23AM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND I WANT TO READ SOMETHING FROM IT.
10:50:26AM THE DEADLINE FOR EACH TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE SHALL FALL ON
10:50:29AM JANUARY 15th AND JULY 15th OF EACH CALENDAR YEAR.
10:50:34AM PROCESSING OF THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT SHALL BEGIN ON THE
10:50:37AM DEADLINE DATE FOLLOWING A BATCH PROCESS.
10:50:39AM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR OR CITY COUNCIL MAY INITIATE A TEXT
10:50:44AM AMENDMENT OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE TO
10:50:48AM CORRECT AN UNINTENTIONAL ERROR OR CONFLICT BETWEEN SECTIONS
10:50:52AM OF THE CHAPTER OR WITH OTHER CHAPTERS OR FOR AMENDMENTS TO
10:50:55AM PROCEDURAL MATTERS.
10:50:56AM I THINK THAT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE CLEARLY HAD THE INTENT OF
10:51:02AM MOVING THESE THINGS TOGETHER, THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
10:51:05AM EXPEDITE THIS AND TRANSMIT THIS RIGHT UP THERE RIGHT NOW.
10:51:08AM I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT,
10:51:12AM IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
10:51:13AM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BREAK THIS LOGJAM.
10:51:17AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:51:19AM WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE.
10:51:20AM AND CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO EXPEDITE IT.
10:51:23AM THE EARLIEST WE CAN EXPEDITE IS JANUARY.
10:51:27AM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAVE DONE -- SINCE
10:51:30AM THE CODE LANGUAGE WAS ADOPTED, IT DOESN'T FIT INTO ONE OF
10:51:33AM THOSE CATEGORIES.
10:51:33AM IT IS BEING EXPEDITED IN JANUARY.
10:51:36AM TYPICALLY, IF IT'S IN JANUARY, YOU DON'T GET A WORKSHOP
10:51:41AM UNTIL FEBRUARY OR MARCH AT THE EARLIEST.
10:51:42AM SO WE ARE EXPEDITING IT.
10:51:46AM AS MS. MORA STATED, YOU COULD ADOPT THIS TODAY TO END THE
10:51:49AM CONVERSATION WITH A LATER EFFECTIVE DATE OR A CURRENT
10:51:53AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:51:55AM THOSE ARE YOUR TWO OPTIONS, BUT WE CAN'T TRANSMIT THE SECOND
10:51:58AM PART OF IT DEALING WITH CHAPTER 27 TODAY.
10:52:00AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHAT IS THE EARLIEST -- WHAT IS THE ABSOLUTE
10:52:05AM EARLIEST THIS CAN WIND ITS WAY THROUGH?
10:52:09AM >>KRISTIN MORA: KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:52:11AM JANUARY 31st IS THE ABSOLUTE EARLIEST WORKSHOP BECAUSE
10:52:14AM THAT IS THE VERY FIRST WORKSHOP AFTER THE JANUARY 15th
10:52:16AM DATE.
10:52:17AM WE HAVE TO TRANSMIT AND THEN GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION 30
10:52:20AM DAYS SO THEY WILL HEAR THIS AT THEIR MARCH MEETING, WHICH I
10:52:24AM BELIEVE IS THE SECOND MONDAY IN MARCH.
10:52:27AM I DON'T RECALL THE DATE OFF HAND.
10:52:28AM WE CAN THEN HAVE THIS BACK HERE FOR SECOND READING AT THE
10:52:31AM END OF MARCH OR APRIL, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT FALLS WITH
10:52:34AM NIGHT MEETINGS.
10:52:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT'S A GOOD THING THEY EXTENDED --
10:52:39AM >>HARRY COHEN: THIS IS CUTTING IT SO CLOSE.
10:52:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE CAN PASS THIS PART.
10:52:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I FEEL LIKE MICHAEL CORLEONE IN GODFATHER
10:52:55AM PART 3.
10:52:55AM I THOUGHT I WAS OUT AND THEY PULLED ME BACK IN.
10:52:58AM WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR SO LONG I THINK THERE ARE
10:53:02AM SOLUTIONS.
10:53:03AM A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'LL HAVE TO GET FROM THE LEGAL
10:53:05AM DEPARTMENT.
10:53:06AM TWO THINGS, ONE, YOU DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER FOR WHAT MR. COHEN
10:53:10AM READ.
10:53:10AM ARE YOU SAYING THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE IS NOT CONTROLLING
10:53:13AM IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO CHANGE?
10:53:14AM BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE -- AND MAYBE I'M WRONG BASED ON WHAT
10:53:17AM YOU'VE READ, SIR -- IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAD --
10:53:22AM [NO ENCODER]
10:53:46AM [NO ENCODER]
10:53:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: -- WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE BEFORE
10:54:18AM THE END OF THE YEAR IF WE DROP THIS DOWN TO FIRST READING
10:54:20AM AND ADD THE OTHER PARTS OF THIS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
10:54:22AM RIGHT NOW THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY -- AND THEN STILL BE
10:54:26AM EXPEDITING IT.
10:54:28AM BECAUSE THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL WAS TO INCLUDE THESE, THESE
10:54:32AM PARTS OF IT, THE ENTIRE THING.
10:54:34AM THAT'S WHY I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE CANNOT
10:54:37AM NOW DROP THIS DOWN TO FIRST READ.
10:54:39AM WE HAVE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
10:54:42AM NEXT WEEK WE WON'T HAVE A REGULAR MEETING BUT WE ARE COMING
10:54:45AM BACK.
10:54:45AM THANKFULLY WE HAVE FIVE THURSDAYS IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN
10:54:49AM WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS THAT WE CAN PUT THIS ONTO
10:54:53AM AND PASS IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
10:54:54AM SO WE ARE READY FOR THE JANUARY CYCLE.
10:54:57AM THAN.
10:55:00AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THERE IS NO PENDING AMENDMENT TO THE
10:55:02AM SECTION OF 27 THAT HAS TO BE AMENDED IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT
10:55:05AM THIS CHANGE.
10:55:06AM THAT CANNOT HAPPEN UNTIL THE JANUARY 15th CYCLE.
10:55:13AM SO EVEN IF YOU AMENDED YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE TO ADD IT IN,
10:55:16AM THAT DOESN'T CIRCUMVENT THE REQUIREMENT THAT IS UNTIL THE
10:55:19AM JANUARY 15th.
10:55:20AM >> YOU JUST MADE A COMMENT IN TERMS OF THE SECOND READING,
10:55:31AM THOSE THINGS THAT WE ACCEPTED FROM BOTH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH
10:55:35AM THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND TREE SOMETHING SAY
10:55:38AM SOMETHING SHALL, THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF OUR MOTION IF
10:55:43AM I AM NOT MISTAKEN, OKAY?
10:55:45AM >>KRISTIN MORA: WHAT WE -- BROUGHT BACK DID NOT INCLUDE
10:55:50AM THAT PORTION BECAUSE IT COULDN'T.
10:55:52AM WHAT YOU SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT INCLUDE
10:55:54AM THAT PORTION BECAUSE IT COULDN'T.
10:55:56AM THERE WAS SOMETHING IN APRIL THAT MADE A REFERENCE TO
10:55:59AM SECTION 27 AS IT EXISTS TODAY, AND FRANKLY SHOULD NOT HAVE
10:56:02AM BEEN IN 13.
10:56:03AM BUT IT WAS THERE AS A REFERENCE TO THE EXISTING CODE.
10:56:06AM AND SO THAT HAS CREATED SOME CONFUSION THAT IT WAS IN THE
10:56:09AM PREVIOUS ORDINANCE, BUT IT WASN'T, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A
10:56:13AM CHANGE TO CHAPTER 27.
10:56:15AM THAT CHANGE HAS NEVER BEEN PENDING IN CHAPTER 27.
10:56:18AM AND IT DIDN'T COME UP UNTIL AUGUST 30th.
10:56:20AM THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT CHANGE WAS BROUGHT UP, AND WE
10:56:24AM SAID THAT'S A GREAT CHANGE, AND WE THINK IT SHOULD GO
10:56:28AM FORWARD.
10:56:29AM YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING DIFFERENT
10:56:31AM OPTIONS OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY
10:56:33AM 31st BUT OUR HANDS ARE TIED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE
10:56:36AM CODE.
10:56:37AM THE CYCLE STARTS ON JANUARY 15th, AND THAT'S WHEN WE CAN
10:56:41AM BRING IT TO YOU.
10:56:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ONE LAST QUESTION. THE PROVISION THAT
10:56:43AM MR. COHEN JUST READ A FEW MINUTES AGO, WHAT DOES THAT
10:56:46AM PERTAIN TO THEN?
10:56:47AM TO ME IT SEEMS PLAINLY IT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS, AND
10:56:51AM I'M JUST CURIOUS.
10:56:53AM YOUR LEGAL OPINION, WHY IS THAT NOT CONTROLLING IN ORDER FOR
10:56:56AM US TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
10:56:58AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT SECTION IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS -- WE
10:57:01AM HAVE HAD SITUATIONS COME UP WHERE ONE SECTION OF THE CODE
10:57:03AM SAYS IN SITUATIONS A YOU CAN DO B, AND IN ANOTHER SECTION IN
10:57:10AM SITUATION A YOU HAVE TO DO C.
10:57:12AM THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE AND THAT IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS
10:57:14AM THOSE.
10:57:17AM WE CAN IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS WHEN A CONFLICT COMES UP IN OUR
10:57:19AM CODE.
10:57:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT A CONFLICT
10:57:23AM BETWEEN DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE CODE IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
10:57:25AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CORRECT.
10:57:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WHAT HE JUST SAID
10:57:29AM REFERS TO.
10:57:30AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
10:57:33AM IF THERE'S AN INTENT OF A SECTION OF THE CODE, AND THEN
10:57:35AM THAT'S CONFLICTING CLEARLY WITH OTHER LANGUAGE IN THE CODE,
10:57:38AM IT'S INTENDED TO BE --
10:57:40AM >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE HERE IS BECAUSE EACH PIECE OF
10:57:42AM WHAT WE HAVE WORKED ON CONCERNING THE TREE ORDINANCE REFERS
10:57:45AM BACK TO OTHER SECTIONS OF DIFFERENT CHAPTERS.
10:57:47AM SO IF WE TRY TO MOVE IT -- AND THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO
10:57:51AM COME UP ON ITEM NUMBER 78 WHICH IS WE HAVE TWO CONFLICTING
10:57:54AM DAYS WITHIN TWO DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN OUR CODE.
10:57:57AM AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIX THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL
10:58:00AM MARRY TOGETHER.
10:58:01AM AND I THINK THAT IT'S AN ARTIFICIAL TIME FRAME TO CONTROL US
10:58:04AM TO NOT GO FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO AND THAT
10:58:07AM WE HAVE ALL AGREED TO DO.
10:58:08AM SO, AGAIN, I THINK -- AND I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT
10:58:13AM THIS LEGALLY, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN DROP THIS DOWN TO
10:58:15AM FIRST READING, COME BACK AT OUR NEXT REGULAR HEARING.
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10:59:21AM [NO ENCODER]
10:59:26AM >> IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN AN
10:59:29AM APPROPRIATE WAY, IT COULD BE VOID AB INITIO, SO IT COULD
10:59:33AM VOID OUT THE WHOLE ORDINANCE.
10:59:34AM IN THIS CASE THE SETBACK ISSUE NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO CHAPTER
10:59:38AM 27.
10:59:39AM THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:59:41AM IT HAS NOT BEEN.
10:59:42AM AND SO EVEN IF YOU COULD GET OUT OF THE JANUARY 15th
10:59:47AM REQUIREMENT, IT STILL WOULD NEED TO BE TRANSMITTED.
10:59:50AM BUT EVEN THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE
10:59:52AM WE HAVE TO WAIT TO THE JANUARY 15th DEADLINE BY OUR
10:59:58AM CODE.
10:59:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I NEVER SAY THIS, BUT I
11:00:05AM JUST DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT I THINK YOU ARE SAYING.
11:00:08AM BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THIS IS USED TO DEAL WITH CONFLICT
11:00:11AM BETWEEN SECTIONS, AND IT SAYS HERE TO CORRECT AN
11:00:15AM UNINTENTIONAL ERROR, OR CONFLICT BETWEEN SECTIONS.
11:00:18AM HOW IS THIS NOT AN UNINTENTIONAL ERROR?
11:00:21AM YOU SAID THAT IT DIDN'T GO UP WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO.
11:00:24AM I MEAN, THERE WAS CLEARLY AN ERROR MADE SOMEWHERE HERE IN
11:00:28AM THAT THESE THINGS DIDN'T REMAIN TOGETHER.
11:00:31AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T CORRECT THAT OUT OF CYCLE
11:00:34AM BASED ON THIS.
11:00:36AM I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT.
11:00:37AM >>KRISTIN MORA: AND AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN INTERPRETED
11:00:40AM UNINTENTIONAL ERROR IN THE CODE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
11:00:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S THE WAY IT'S INTERPRETED BUT THAT'S
11:00:49AM NOT THE WAY IT READS.
11:00:50AM IT MAY BE INTERPRETING.
11:00:51AM YOU SAID HISTORICALLY.
11:00:52AM HISTORICALLY.
11:00:54AM YOU USED THE WORD HISTORICALLY.
11:00:56AM AND I THOUGHT, WHY --
11:01:02AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT'S THE OPINION OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:01:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:01:10AM OKAY.
11:01:11AM I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE.
11:01:14AM I DO AGREE WITH THEM ON THIS.
11:01:16AM BECAUSE THE WORD HISTORICALLY, AND ALSO -- HISTORICALLY DOES
11:01:26AM NOT MAKE IT, UM, THAT'S HOW IT HAS TO BE.
11:01:35AM THERE'S A DIFFERENCE TO ME. ANYWAY, ANYBODY WANT --
11:01:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING HERE.
11:01:42AM IF IN FACT THAT IT WHAT MR. COHEN READ IS CORRECT AND YOU
11:01:46AM HAVE TO FIND A REASON, IF YOU PASS THIS TODAY AND IN TWO
11:01:50AM WEEKS SAY YOU MADE A MISTAKE, THEN IT GOES IN.
11:01:52AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:01:56AM I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE QUESTION IS.
11:01:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, YOU ARE PRESENTING ONE CASE,
11:02:01AM MR. COHEN READ FROM THE LAW ITSELF, AND IT DOESN'T
11:02:05AM SPECIFICALLY APPLY HOW YOU DO IT.
11:02:08AM READ THAT PART, MR. COHEN, AGAIN.
11:02:11AM THE LAST PART WHERE IT SAYS MISTAKE OR SOMETHING.
11:02:15AM IF THIS PASSES TODAY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED, AND WE
11:02:20AM SAY WE MADE AN ERROR, THEN IT GOES BACK IN.
11:02:28AM WE ARE NOT FINDING AN EXCUSE TO PUT IT BACK. IF WE GIVING
11:02:31AM YOU ONE.
11:02:31AM >>REBECCA KERT: NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, MR.
11:02:34AM MIRANDA.
11:02:35AM REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:02:36AM THE LAST TIME THIS ISSUE WITH THE CHAPTER 27 CHANGES AND
11:02:40AM WHAT'S BEFORE YOU CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL WAS
11:02:43AM ADVISED THAT YOU ARE LEGALLY APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD AS
11:02:49AM EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE TREE AND LANDSCAPE CODE
11:02:53AM CHANGES, BUT THE CHAPTER 27 WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU
11:02:55AM IN JANUARY.
11:02:56AM SOMEHOW THAT HAS GOTTEN CONFUSED, BUT THAT IS WHAT WAS
11:03:00AM ADVISED THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE HERE BEFORE YOU.
11:03:03AM SO THAT WASN'T AN ERROR.
11:03:08AM I THINK SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE BEEN CONFUSED BY THAT, BUT
11:03:12AM THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR IN THE TRANSCRIPT, BUT THAT'S THE ADVICE
11:03:16AM THAT WAS GIVEN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN IT CAME BACK BEFORE
11:03:19AM YOU.
11:03:21AM I UNDERSTAND CITY COUNCIL'S FRUSTRATION.
11:03:24AM IF I FELT IN ANY LEVEL COMFORTABLE TELL YOU TO MOVE FORWARD,
11:03:28AM I WOULD, BUT I'M TELLING YOU MY BEST ADVICE IS THAT'S NOT
11:03:33AM APPROPRIATE TO DO.
11:03:37AM 69 WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE TODAY?
11:03:40AM >> TODAY YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD ON SECOND READING.
11:03:43AM AND LIST YOUR OPTIONS, NOT THAT I HEAR YOU WANT TO TAKE
11:03:47AM THEM.
11:03:47AM YOU CANNOT MOVE FORWARD ON SECOND READING.
11:03:49AM YOU COULD ADVISE -- YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD ON SECOND READING
11:03:53AM BEFORE YOU READ IT TO CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE SO THAT IT
11:03:57AM WOULD BE EFFECTIVE CLOSER IN TIME TO THE CHAPTER 27, SO YOU
11:04:01AM CAN GO FORWARD AS IS, YOU CANNOT GO FORWARD -- OR YOU COULD
11:04:05AM DIRECT US TO CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:04:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
11:04:10AM >> WHAT OTHER OPTION I AM THINKING ABOUT AND I WANT TO MAKE
11:04:14AM SURE WE CAN'T DO IT, SO I HAVE A FEELING WE CAN'T DO IT.
11:04:17AM THOSE CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27 TO COME BACK ON FIRST READ, TO
11:04:22AM GO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE, WE WILL CONTINUE THIS TO THE
11:04:25AM FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER AND HAVE A FIRST READ OF THE OTHER
11:04:29AM CHANGES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW, ON THE SEPARATE
11:04:32AM ORDINANCE.
11:04:33AM ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER
11:04:35AM PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION?
11:04:36AM >>REBECCA KERT: YES.
11:04:39AM THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SAYING.
11:04:40AM AND ALSO THAT THE CHAPTER 27 CHANGES HAVE TO GO IN THE CYCLE
11:04:43AM AND I UPPER THE FRUSTRATION ABOUT THAT.
11:04:45AM BUT THAT IS NOT JUST A CONSERVATIVE LEVEL ADVICE.
11:04:51AM THAT'S EVERY READING I HAVE HAD TRYING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
11:04:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:56AM SO --
11:04:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD YOU HAVE FOR
11:05:00AM US ON THE THREE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED?
11:05:02AM >>REBECCA KERT: ALL THREE ARE LEGALLY APPROPRIATE.
11:05:06AM I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, IN ANY PARTICULAR
11:05:11AM WAY.
11:05:11AM SO THOSE ARE YOUR THREE LEGAL OPTIONS.
11:05:13AM IT'S A POLICY OPTION.
11:05:15AM YOU WILL ABOUT WHAT CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO DO AND THEN THE
11:05:19AM CHAPTER 27 CHANGES.
11:05:20AM [NO ENCODER]
11:06:12AM [NO ENCODER]
11:06:12AM >> 90 DAYS WOULD PUT YOU OUT TO MID FEBRUARY.
11:06:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE WANT TO DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:06:18AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THE 90 DAYS MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE BECAUSE YOU
11:06:24AM WILL HAVE TRANSMITTED SOMETHING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
11:06:27AM ON THE OTHER AMENDMENT.
11:06:29AM THAT MIGHT BE OUR RECOMMENDATION.
11:06:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND HERE IS THE SUGGESTION.
11:06:32AM WE HAVE IN TWO WEEKS, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT'S ALREADY
11:06:37AM SCHEDULED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
11:06:40AM DURING THE WORKSHOP SESSION, WE CAN'T DO -- WE CAN'T --
11:06:46AM CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG -- WE CAN'T DO A TRANSMITTAL TO THE
11:06:49AM PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT'S A WORKSHOP.
11:06:52AM IS THAT CORRECT?
11:06:54AM >>KRISTIN MORA: NOT WITH THESE CHANGES.
11:06:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE DO HAVE AN EVENING SESSION THAT WE CAN
11:07:00AM PROBABLY DO THE TRANSMITTAL AT THAT POINT.
11:07:03AM SINCE WE HAVE TWO WEEKS, WE COULD PROBABLY DO A PUBLIC
11:07:06AM HEARING ON THAT NIGHT IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD ON TRANSMITTING
11:07:10AM TO THE PUBLIC -- TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:07:13AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SINCE THE WORKSHOP ON NOVEMBER 29th IS
11:07:16AM ACTUALLY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE WHERE WE HAVE ADDED
11:07:18AM THE VRB BACK IN --
11:07:20AM >> I GET.
11:07:21AM THAT I AM MAKING A SUGGESTION ABOUT THE REGULAR EVENING
11:07:23AM SESSION.
11:07:23AM MY POINT IS THAT WE COULD PREPARE SOMETHING READY TO GO FOR
11:07:28AM PLANNING COMMISSION COMING UP ON THE 29th, DO IT ON THAT
11:07:31AM EVENING SESSION, PUT IT ON OUR AGENDA FOR THAT, GO FORWARD
11:07:35AM FROM THERE, AND IT SHOULD EVENTUALLY MARRY UP WITH THESE TWO
11:07:39AM ITEMS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RATE NOW, CLOSER, BECAUSE
11:07:42AM NOW WE'LL HAVE EVER TO GO THROUGH THE CYCLE.
11:07:44AM AT LEAST WE WILL BE A COUPLE WEEKS, ACTUALLY A MONTH AHEAD
11:07:47AM OF TIME IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
11:07:50AM BECAUSE WHAT'S THE EARLIEST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT
11:07:52AM IT CAN BE TAKEN UP?
11:07:53AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT JANUARY
11:07:59AM 15th IS WHEN THE CYCLE BEGINS.
11:08:01AM THAT'S WHEN WORK ON IT CAN BEGIN.
11:08:03AM SO THAT JANUARY 31st WOULD BE THE FIRST WORKSHOP AFTER
11:08:06AM THAT.
11:08:07AM YOU COULD TAKE IT UP AT A MEETING OUTSIDE OF A WORKSHOP FOR
11:08:10AM TRANSMITTAL.
11:08:11AM SO WHATEVER DATE AFTER JANUARY 15th, YOU CAN TAKE IT UP
11:08:17AM FOR TRANSMITTAL AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:08:20AM BUT AFTER THAT JANUARY 15th DATE IS WHEN IT WOULD BE
11:08:23AM TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:08:25AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
11:08:27AM AS I UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO THE CYCLES, IT DOESN'T
11:08:29AM MATTER WHEN WE DISCUSS ANYTHING.
11:08:30AM IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT IT GETS PART OF THE CYCLE BASED ON
11:08:32AM THE TIME FRAME WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:08:34AM IT WON'T BE PART OF THE NEXT CYCLE.
11:08:36AM SO THE NEXT THING THAT COMES UP -- I AM JUST TRYING TO
11:08:39AM EXPEDITE IT SO THAT WE GET IT OUT OF THE WAY, THAT IT STARTS
11:08:42AM TRAVELING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
11:08:44AM THE LONGER WE WAIT THE LONGER TIME WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
11:08:46AM DEAL WITH THIS.
11:08:47AM FOR ME I WOULD RATHER JUST TRY AND EXPEDITE IT WITHIN THIS
11:08:51AM CALENDAR YEAR, GET IT OUT OF THE WAY WITH CHAPTER 27.
11:08:54AM WE ALREADY KNOW THE CHANGES WE WANT.
11:08:56AM WE ALREADY HAVE TALKED AD NAUSEAM.
11:08:59AM SO IF WE DO THAT QUICKER AND ASK FOR A TRANSMITTAL, THEN WE
11:09:03AM KNOW IT WON'T GO ON UNTIL JANUARY 31st.
11:09:08AM I'M THE TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT GETS READY TO GO. WE WON'T
11:09:12AM EVEN HAVE ANY MEETINGS IN JANUARY ABOUT IT.
11:09:14AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT
11:09:17AM TO DO YET.
11:09:18AM THERE'S BEEN TALK OF A 40% REAR YARD, 25% REAR YARD,
11:09:23AM AUTOMATIC WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGN EXCEPTION 1,
11:09:27AM DECISION EXCEPT 2.
11:09:28AM WE INTENDED TO BRING YOU A COUPLE OF OPTIONS OF EXACTLY HOW
11:09:31AM YOU WANTED TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
11:09:32AM THAT WAS OUR INTENT.
11:09:35AM IF YOU WANT TO STATE MORE CLEARLY EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL
11:09:39AM BELIEVES THAT IS, YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT, AND THAT WILL
11:09:42AM GIVE US SOME DIRECTION.
11:09:44AM BUT OUR INTENT WAS TO PRESENT EACH POSSIBLE OPTION OF THAT
11:09:48AM JANUARY 31st WORKSHOP --
11:09:51AM >> WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT STAFF'S INTENT.
11:09:53AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR INTENT.
11:09:55AM AND MAYBE I AM WRONG.
11:09:56AM PLEASE TELL ME.
11:09:57AM I THINK WE HAD PRETTY MUCH BEEN CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT
11:10:00AM WAS CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BECAUSE WE TALKED
11:10:04AM ABOUT IT FOR SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SIX
11:10:06AM MONTHS.
11:10:07AM SO MAYBE THERE'S CONFUSION BETWEEN WHAT STAFF IS HEARING
11:10:10AM FROM US AND WHAT WE THINK WE ARE DOING GOING FORWARD.
11:10:13AM AND PLEASE CORRECT ME.
11:10:16AM I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAD DONE, THE
11:10:19AM LAST FEW MEETINGS, YOU KNOW.
11:10:21AM AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE GOT FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES,
11:10:24AM YOU KNOW, BUILDERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS, SAYING, YES, WE
11:10:27AM WANT TO EXPEDITE IT BUT WE NEED TO FIX THIS OTHER PART OF
11:10:30AM IT.
11:10:30AM SO THE ONLY THING I WANT TO DO IS EXPEDITE THIS SECOND PART
11:10:33AM OF IT TO GET IN THERE AND TO GET IT INTO THE CYCLE AS SOON
11:10:36AM AS POSSIBLE. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT A CALENDAR
11:10:39AM DATE THAT'S GOING TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING PUBLIC
11:10:43AM NOTICE SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO THE CYCLE.
11:10:46AM SO THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON RIGHT NOW.
11:10:49AM I UNDERSTAND THE CYCLE DOESN'T COME UP JANUARY 31st.
11:10:53AM BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM COMING BACK ON
11:10:55AM DECEMBER 6th WITH THE TRANSMITTAL FOR US TO TRANSMIT TO
11:10:57AM THEM AT THAT TIME?
11:11:00AM IS THAT POSSIBLE OR NOT?
11:11:02AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:11:03AM YOU CAN DISCUSS IT ANYTIME YOU WANT.
11:11:06AM BUT YOU CAN'T GIVE TO THE TRANSMITTAL JANUARY AFTER JANUARY
11:11:10AM 15th.
11:11:10AM SO THE EARLIEST DATE AFTER JANUARY 15th IF COUNCIL WANTS
11:11:15AM TO SET A SPECIAL ITEM, YOU CAN DO THAT.
11:11:16AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:11:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
11:11:20AM SO JANUARY 17th WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE ON OUR EVENING
11:11:23AM SESSION WE COULD DO IT.
11:11:24AM THAT WOULD BE THE SOONEST.
11:11:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, CAPIN?
11:11:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING HERE, BECAUSE I
11:11:31AM READ THIS AND I SAID ON ERROR, AND MRS. KERT CAME UP AND
11:11:35AM SAID IT WASN'T AN ERROR.
11:11:39AM SHE PULLED UP THE TRANSCRIPT.
11:11:41AM SO IT WAS AN ERROR IN VERBIAGE AND INTENT.
11:11:44AM THE INTENT AND THE VERBIAGE DID NOT CONNECT, OBVIOUSLY.
11:11:48AM BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE
11:11:55AM SAYING.
11:11:56AM I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT VERBIAGE DIDN'T COME THROUGH AS WE
11:12:01AM INTENDED.
11:12:02AM SO I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, AND WE NEED
11:12:07AM TO MOVE.
11:12:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, BEFORE WE DO SECOND READING WE NEED
11:12:13AM TO MAKE A MOTION PERTAINING TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:20AM THE 17th.
11:12:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE CAN MAKE A MEETING COMING UP IN ORDER TO
11:12:25AM DISCUSS IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS PUT ON.
11:12:27AM THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND MEETING ON JANUARY 17th IN
11:12:30AM ORDER FOR THE TRANSMITTAL.
11:12:32AM SO MY SUGGESTION IS JUST TO TRY TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS
11:12:36AM POSSIBLE.
11:12:37AM AND IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME IF IT'S ON THE 6th OR THE
11:12:40AM 20th IN TERMS OF GETTING THE CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27 AS
11:12:44AM PRESENTED BY THE TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING FOLKS AND THE
11:12:49AM TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION CONCERNING THAT SO THAT WE
11:12:52AM CAN GO FORWARD.
11:12:53AM SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
11:12:54AM IS THAT CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OR CAN
11:12:57AM WE DO IT THAT WAY?
11:13:00AM >> THAT'S CLEAR.
11:13:01AM YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO IT THAT WAY.
11:13:02AM YOU CAN ASK US TO DISCUSS THE OPTIONS ON THE 29th IF
11:13:05AM THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. WE ARE HAPPY TO DISCUSS
11:13:07AM THE OPTIONS AT ANY TIME.
11:13:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT IT READY SO WE CAN TRANSMIT IT COMING
11:13:12AM UP ON JANUARY 17th.
11:13:13AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT, IF I AM
11:13:18AM UNDERSTANDING, ON ONE OF THE DECEMBER DATES?
11:13:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:13:23AM HERE IS WHY. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS
11:13:26AM IN JANUARY IN ORDER TO GET IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:13:28AM I WOULD RATHER DO THE MEETINGS NOW, SO THAT WE ARE READY TO
11:13:33AM GO, SO THAT WHEN JANUARY 17th GOES IN ITS DONE.
11:13:36AM >>KRISTIN MORA: OKAY.
11:13:37AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND I HOPE EVERYONE FOLLOWS WHAT I AM
11:13:40AM SAYING.
11:13:40AM >>HARRY COHEN: THE ONLY REMAINING QUESTION IS THE EFFECTIVE
11:13:44AM DATE.
11:13:45AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CORRECT.
11:13:46AM AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT SO IT WOULD
11:13:48AM BE 90 DAYS AFTER JANUARY 17th?
11:13:52AM WE ARE TRYING TO MARRY THEM TOGETHER.
11:13:55AM 90 DAYS AFTER JANUARY --
11:14:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MAYBE THEY CAN EXTEND US 30 DAYS.
11:14:06AM (LAUGHTER).
11:14:07AM >> I THINK THE 90 DAYS PUTS US INTO APRIL.
11:14:10AM IT WILL BE ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WE DO AS A COUNCIL
11:14:13AM TOGETHER.
11:14:14AM UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE APRIL IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL FOR
11:14:16AM OUR MEETINGS, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT IT WOULD BE --
11:14:20AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IF NOT WE CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO GET
11:14:22AM IT DONE.
11:14:23AM >> YES.
11:14:24AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO LET ME REPHRASE THE MOTION SO THE CLERK
11:14:30AM KNOWS.
11:14:30AM SO WE ARE GOING TO NEED TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
11:14:32AM THE FIRST MOTION CONCERNS COMING BACK ON DECEMBER 6th
11:14:36AM WITH AN ORDINANCE, CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27, BASED ON THE
11:14:41AM RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING GROUP,
11:14:43AM TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, TO COME FORWARD.
11:14:46AM THAT'S THE FIRST MOTION.
11:14:48AM >> SECOND.
11:14:49AM >> GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:14:52AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:14:54AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?
11:14:56AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:14:58AM OPPOSED?
11:15:00AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE SECOND MOTION IS THAT THE TWO
11:15:01AM ORDINANCES, NUMBER 76 AND 77 WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL
11:15:07AM 90 DAYS -- MR. SHELBY, HANG ON A SECOND -- UNTIL 90 DAYS
11:15:12AM AFTER THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO PLANNING
11:15:18AM COMMISSION.
11:15:20AM SO 90 DAYS AFTER JANUARY 17th WOULD BE EVEN MORE CLEAR.
11:15:25AM OKAY?
11:15:25AM AND THEN WHATEVER MEETING COMES UP, WHETHER THE FIRST
11:15:28AM REGULAR MEETING FOR COUNCIL, OR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING FROM
11:15:33AM COUNCIL WOULD BE THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME FRAME.
11:15:35AM >>KRISTIN MORA: OKAY.
11:15:37AM I WILL NEED TO RUN UPSTAIRS AND MAKE THAT CHANGE TO BOTH
11:15:40AM THOSE ORDINANCES AND BRING THEM BACK.
11:15:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
11:15:44AM THAT'S MY SECOND MOTION.
11:15:45AM HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON IT.
11:15:47AM AND I HOPE --
11:15:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:15:51AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:15:53AM DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:15:54AM MRS. CAPIN.
11:15:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY, THAT'S MID MAY.
11:15:57AM 90 DAYS.
11:15:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IS IT 90 DAYS, MID MAY?
11:16:05AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OH, JANUARY.
11:16:06AM OH, I SKIPPED A MONTH.
11:16:10AM (LAUGHTER)
11:16:11AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:16:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:16:16AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:16:19AM OPPOSED?
11:16:19AM OKAY.
11:16:20AM NOW, WE DO SECOND READING ON NUMBER 76.
11:16:26AM OH, EXCUSE ME.
11:16:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 77 YOU PUT A HOLD --
11:16:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THEN WE'LL GO TO 78.
11:16:34AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I AM HERE ON ITEM NUMBER
11:16:39AM 78 WHICH IS THE CHANGE TO CHAPTER 16, SECOND READING AND THE
11:16:45AM PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY
11:16:47AM QUESTIONS.
11:16:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:16:54AM ALL RIGHT, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:16:56AM 78?
11:16:57AM GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY MR.
11:16:59AM MANISCALCO.
11:17:00AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:17:01AM OPPOSED?
11:17:03AM WHO WAS THE LAST PERSON TO READ?
11:17:08AM MRS. CAPIN, NUMBER 78.
11:17:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:17:15AM [OFF MICROPHONE] AN ORDINANCE FILE E-2018-8 CHAPTER 16,
11:17:20AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
11:17:24AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MAKING REVISIONS TO
11:17:27AM CITY OF CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 16 PARKS AND RECREATION
11:17:32AM AMENDING SECTION 16-91, LIST OF DEDICATED PARKS, REPEALING
11:17:35AM ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH
11:17:39AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:17:40AM >> SECOND.
11:17:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN, SECOND BY
11:17:45AM MR. COHEN.
11:17:46AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:17:47AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:17:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:17:56AM WE GO TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:18:00AM ITEM 79 THROUGH 82.
11:18:04AM HAVE THEY BEEN OPENED?
11:18:05AM OKAY.
11:18:07AM ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 79 THROUGH 82. ANYONE THAT'S
11:18:11AM GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 79 THROUGH 82, PLEASE STAND AND BE
11:18:12AM SWORN.
11:18:13AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:18:14AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: IN TERMS OF ITEM 79, 80 AND 81, THE SITE
11:18:27AM PLANS HAVE BEEN REVISED AND GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
11:18:30AM AND CERTIFIED.
11:18:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:18:33AM PETITIONER?
11:18:37AM IS PETITIONER HERE FOR ITEM 79?
11:18:44AM OKAY.
11:18:45AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK?
11:18:50AM >> JOSEPH DIAZ.
11:18:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT TIME MAKE SURE YOU GET ONE OF THESE
11:18:56AM AGENDAS WHEN YOU COME IN.
11:18:58AM SO WHEN I SAY 79, YOU KNOW THAT'S YOU.
11:19:00AM >> OKAY.
11:19:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:19:05AM >> THANK YOU.
11:19:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO AHEAD.
11:19:08AM >> WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE IT.
11:19:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
11:19:13AM ALL RIGHT.
11:19:13AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 79?
11:19:16AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:19:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:19:20AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:19:21AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:19:23AM OPPOSED?
11:19:24AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:19:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 79, AB 2-18-23.
11:19:31AM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:19:33AM ADOPTION.
11:19:34AM AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
11:19:37AM BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE COUPLES ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE
11:19:41AM SALES FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
11:19:45AM SALE OF BEVERAGE REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER WINE
11:19:47AM AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
11:19:50AM LOCATED AT 1523 EAST 7TH AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
11:19:55AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
11:19:57AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING
11:20:00AM ORDINANCE 99-32, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:20:03AM >> SECOND.
11:20:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:20:06AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:20:07AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:20:08AM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE] MOTION CARRIED.
11:20:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 80.
11:20:22AM ANYONE HERE?
11:20:23AM PETITIONER, ARE YOU HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 80?
11:20:26AM >> STATE YOUR NAME.
11:20:45AM >> DOUG VERKAIK.
11:20:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
11:20:54AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE] ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
11:20:59AM >> I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN --
11:21:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE ON NUMBER 80?
11:21:04AM MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:21:05AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:21:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
11:21:08AM OPPOSED?
11:21:09AM MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU READ NUMBER 80.
11:21:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:21:15AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
11:21:18AM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3308 AND 3312 WEST WYOMING AVENUE
11:21:22AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
11:21:24AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
11:21:28AM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:21:32AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:21:35AM DATE.
11:21:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
11:21:39AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:21:41AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:21:42AM >> MOTION CARRIED WITH COHEN AND CAPIN BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:21:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM 81.
11:22:00AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:22:02AM THE APPLICANT CALLED MS. SAMANIEGO AND ASKED THAT COUNCIL GO
11:22:07AM FORWARD.
11:22:08AM HIS WORK SCHEDULE DID NOT ALLOW HIM TO ATTEND TODAY'S
11:22:11AM MEETING.
11:22:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:22:13AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 81?
11:22:16AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:22:18AM >> SECOND.
11:22:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:22:22AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:22:23AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:22:25AM OPPOSED?
11:22:26AM MR. SUAREZ, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 81?
11:22:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
11:22:32AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:22:34AM VICINITY OF 33075 WEST SAINT CONRAD STREET IN THE CITY OF
11:22:39AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
11:22:41AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
11:22:44AM SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
11:22:47AM SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:22:48AM >> SECOND.
11:22:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:22:52AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:22:53AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:22:54AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND -- ABSENT AT
11:23:13AM VOTE.
11:23:14AM >> ITEM 82.
11:23:19AM >>DAVID MECHANIK: 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
11:23:21AM APPLICANT.
11:23:22AM WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THE SECOND
11:23:26AM READING TO JANUARY 10th, 2019.
11:23:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:23:32AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:23:34AM ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 82 BEING CONTINUED TO
11:23:39AM JANUARY THE 10th, 2019?
11:23:41AM >> MOVE TO CONTINUE TO JANUARY 10.
11:23:46AM >> SECOND.
11:23:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:23:48AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:23:49AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
11:23:50AM OPPOSED?
11:23:51AM OKAY.
11:23:52AM MOTION CARRIED.
11:23:52AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS 82 THROUGH 86.
11:24:06AM I MEAN 83.
11:24:07AM 83.
11:24:11AM 83.
11:24:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 83 THROUGH
11:24:20AM 86, PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN.
11:24:22AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:24:25AM ITEM NUMBER 83.
11:24:31AM >> I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE THE ONE THAT WE NEED AN
11:24:53AM INTERPRETER SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY SET UP HERE.
11:25:02AM WILL YOU SWEAR THE INTERPRETER?
11:25:04AM >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR A FIRM THAT YOU WILL TRANSLATE
11:25:11AM FROM SPANISH TO -- [OFF MICROPHONE.]
11:25:20AM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:25:21AM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:25:23AM SINCE WE ARE USING A TRANSLATOR, I WOULD BE LET YOU KNOW
11:25:28AM THAT YOU SHOULD RELY ON THE TRANSLATOR'S INTERPRETATION EVEN
11:25:31AM IF YOU UNDERSTAND SOME SPANISH.
11:25:33AM YOU SHOULD RELY ON THE INTERPRETATION TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:25:36AM EVERYONE IS HEARING THE SAME FACTS WHEN THEY HEAR THIS CASE.
11:25:40AM THIS IS A REVIEW OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR A VARIANCE
11:25:44AM AT 2312 WEST POW HAT ON. THIS WAS A DE NOVO REVIEW.
11:25:50AM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: MA'AM, COME TO THE PODIUM.
11:26:07AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THIS IS A DE NOVO HEARING.
11:26:15AM YOU WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION BASED ON SECTION 27-80 WHICH
11:26:18AM HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU.
11:26:19AM >> WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY STAFF.
11:26:48AM HE IS AVAILABLE.
11:26:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S JUST STANDING THERE.
11:26:54AM ALL RIGHT.
11:26:57AM LET STAFF GIVE THE PRESENTATION FIRST.
11:26:59AM LET HIM DO HIS PRESENTATION AND THEN YOU ALL CAN COME UP.
11:27:11AM DAIMA CANCIO.
11:27:15AM HE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT TO YOU THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH
11:27:29AM CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT PERMITS.
11:27:30AM AND THEN THEY CAME TO THE VRB AND THEY STAND BEFORE YOU
11:27:35AM TODAY.
11:27:52AM THE APPLICANT APPEARS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
11:27:54AM LET ME SHOW YOU REAL QUICK WHERE THIS IS.
11:27:56AM AND THIS IS OFF POWHATAN, OFF ARMENIA, RIGHT HERE.
11:28:08AM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
11:28:10AM THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT WAS ON THE SITE.
11:28:14AM THEY DID SOME ADDITIONS, WITHOUT PERMITS BACK HERE, AND IN
11:28:21AM HERE.
11:28:22AM SO THIS DID QUITE EXTENSIVE ADDITION.
11:28:30AM I WILL WALK YOU AROUND THE HOUSE REAL QUICK.
11:28:37AM THEY REMODELED THE HOUSE.
11:28:39AM AND THEN CREATED -- THIS IS THE BACK.
11:28:48AM AND THIS IS THE FRONT.
11:28:52AM VRB HEARD THIS CASE AND THEY DECIDED THERE WAS IN A HARDSHIP
11:28:57AM FOR THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUEST.
11:28:59AM THEY DENIED THAT.
11:29:00AM AND THEY APPROVED THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.
11:29:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
11:29:06AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THEY ARE ONLY APPEALING THE DENIAL OF THE
11:29:11AM BACKYARD?
11:29:13AM >> YES, SIR.
11:29:13AM >>HARRY COHEN: THE FRONT YARD IS GOING TO GO AHEAD.
11:29:18AM OKAY, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME.
11:29:19AM >> THAT'S FINE.
11:29:21AM STAFF HAD IN A ISSUES WITH THE REQUEST.
11:29:23AM TRANSPORTATION REQUESTED TO SHOW SOME PARKING SPACE IN THE
11:29:25AM FRONT YARD.
11:29:27AM OTHER THAN THAT STAFF IS FINE WITH THE REQUEST.
11:29:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
11:29:41AM PETITIONER.
11:29:55AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FIRST.
11:29:57AM >> DAIMA CANCIO.
11:30:04AM >> DAIMA CANCIO.
11:30:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:30:19AM STATE YOUR POSITION.
11:30:20AM >> (INTERPRETER): (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:30:33AM >> MADE THE HOUSE BIGGER, AN ASSISTIVE LIVING FACILITY.
11:30:48AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:30:59AM >> TO LET EVERYONE KNOW SO THE HOUSE WOULD BE BIG ENOUGH FOR
11:31:04AM EVERYONE.
11:31:04AM (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:31:14AM AND SHE MADE A PORCH IN THE BACKYARD SO THEY WOULD HAVE ROOM
11:31:21AM TO MOVE AROUND, BREATHE FRESH AIR.
11:31:29AM (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:31:40AM >> HER MOTHER HAS DEMENTIA AND SHE WANTED TO CREATE AN AREA
11:31:43AM WHERE HER MOTHER WILL BE COMFORTABLE.
11:31:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ASK HER, IS THIS FACILITY CURRENTLY AN
11:31:52AM ASSISTIVE LIVING FACILITY?
11:31:54AM (SPEAKING SPANISH).
11:32:10AM >> IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY OPEN YET.
11:32:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ASK HER HOW MANY OCCUPANTS DOES SHE EXPECT
11:32:17AM TO HAVE IN THAT FACILITY?
11:32:19AM >> FOUR.
11:32:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:32:28AM >> SHE SAID IT'S ALREADY INSPECTED AND BEEN APPROVED.
11:32:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST OUT OF INTEREST, YOU MENTIONED YOUR
11:32:42AM MOTHER.
11:32:43AM IS YOUR MOTHER GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE OCCUPANTS?
11:32:45AM >> NO, SIR.
11:32:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:32:54AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:32:59AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 83?
11:33:02AM >> SPEAK INTO THE MIKE, SIR.
11:33:22AM >> ROBERT [PAPERS RUSTLING], 2310 W. POWHATAN. I'M THE
11:33:26AM NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR.
11:33:27AM THE PICTURE SHOWING THE LITTLE DIAGRAM SHOWING THE ORIGINAL
11:33:30AM HOUSE AND THE ADD-ON.
11:33:32AM IT IS NOT AN ADD-ON.
11:33:34AM THERE IS NOTHING LEFT THERE OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
11:33:37AM THEY BUILT A BRAND NEW STRUCTURE.
11:33:39AM OKAY.
11:33:41AM SHE TALKS ABOUT SHE NEEDS THAT PORCH FOR RESIDENTS.
11:33:45AM SHE DOESN'T TELL YOU THERE'S A SIDE PORCH ON THE EAST SIDE
11:33:47AM OF THE HOUSE THAT SHE COULD HAVE PUT THE RESIDENCE ON.
11:33:53AM OKAY.
11:34:00AM EVER SINCE THIS STARTED, THE PROPERTIES WERE BUILT IN 1958.
11:34:06AM THE GRADE WAS SO LOW THEN WHEN THEY PUT THE POOL IN MY HOUSE
11:34:12AM IN 1959, THEY EXCAVATED AND LET THE POOL AREA AT THE SAME
11:34:18AM LEVEL AS THE CARPORT.
11:34:20AM SINCE THEN THE FLORIDA ROOM HAS BEEN PUT ON YEARS LATER, AND
11:34:27AM NOW MY BACKYARD, MY FLORIDA ROOM, MY LAUNDRY ROOM, SITS FIVE
11:34:33AM AND A HALF INCHES BELOW THEIR GRADE AS ORIGINAL FROM 1958.
11:34:41AM THEY HAVE GONE FROM I BELIEVE 960 SQUARE FEET TO ALMOST
11:34:44AM 2,000 SQUARE FEET, COVERED ALL THIS PROPERTY, AND THERE'S NO
11:34:49AM PLACE FOR THE WATER TO RUN OFF.
11:34:51AM IT'S ALL GOING TO GO IN MY YARD.
11:34:54AM I HAVE BEEN OBJECTING TO THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING.
11:34:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:35:03AM ANYTHING ELSE?
11:35:04AM >> THAT'S IT.
11:35:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE ISSUE AT HAND ON HERE IS THE SETBACK
11:35:08AM ONLY.
11:35:10AM SO YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SETBACK REDUCED BECAUSE OF THE
11:35:15AM DISTANCE TO YOUR HOUSE?
11:35:16AM OR SOME OTHER ISSUE?
11:35:18AM >> THE PORCH IS ALREADY THERE.
11:35:21AM OKAY.
11:35:23AM LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE COVERED SO MUCH OF THAT LAND, THERE'S
11:35:27AM NO PLACE FOR THE WATER TO GO.
11:35:28AM OKAY.
11:35:30AM THERE IS NO YARD THERE.
11:35:32AM THEY HAD TO BUILD A SPECIAL BUILDING FOR THE FIRE
11:35:36AM SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, WHICH IS ANOTHER 150 SQUARE FEET.
11:35:40AM I WOULDN'T HAVE MINDED IF IT WAS JUST A ROOM ADDITION, IF
11:35:43AM THEY WANTED TO PUT TWO BEDROOMS, ONE BATH.
11:35:46AM THEY PUT IN A WHOLE BRAND NEW BUILDING, STARTED WITH THE TWO
11:35:54AM ONE HOUSE, THAT HOUSE IS A FOUR-THREE.
11:35:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:36:02AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:36:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:36:06AM 83?
11:36:08AM ALL RIGHT.
11:36:09AM APPLICANT?
11:36:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BEFORE WE GO TO THE APPLICANT, CAN I ASK A
11:36:15AM QUESTION OF STAFF?
11:36:20AM THE GENTLEMAN JUST MENTIONED THAT IT WAS A NEW PROPERTY.
11:36:25AM WAS THE PROPERTY ROW BUILT?
11:36:27AM OR WAS IT AN ADD-ON?
11:36:30AM OR DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
11:36:34AM >>JOEL SOUSA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:36:34AM THERE WERE ADDITIONS AND INSTRUCTIONS THAT WERE DONE WITHOUT
11:36:37AM PERMITS.
11:36:37AM >> SO THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION DONE ONTO THIS WITHOUT PERMITS.
11:36:41AM SO IT WENT -- ARE YOU AGREEING WITH WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID
11:36:44AM THAT IT WENT FROM ABOUT AN 850 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO OVER
11:36:50AM 2200 OR SOMETHING?
11:36:52AM >>JOEL SOUSA: YES, SIR.
11:36:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IS SHE IN VIOLATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
11:36:56AM CURRENTLY?
11:36:58AM >>JOEL SOUSA: UNTIL THE PERMIT IS ISSUED AND FINAL, YES.
11:37:01AM >> SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE PROCESS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:37:05AM >> SHE'S TRYING TO GO THROUGH PLAN REVIEW NOW.
11:37:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:37:08AM >>HARRY COHEN: DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT YOU WERE ENCROACHING
11:37:17AM INTO THE SETBACK WHEN YOU BUILT THIS ADDITION?
11:37:20AM >> SHE WASN'T AWARE OF ANY ENCROACHMENT.
11:37:40AM SHE WAS AWARE SHE WAS DOING IT WITHOUT PERMITS.
11:37:42AM >>HARRY COHEN: BUT SHE WASN'T AWARE THAT SHE WAS IN
11:37:45AM VIOLATION OF THE IS SETBACK?
11:37:54AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH).
11:37:55AM >> SHE WASN'T AWARE.
11:37:57AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHETHER OR NOT WORK IS DONE WITH OR WITHOUT
11:37:59AM PERMITS IS NOT THE PART OF THE OUR REVIEW HERE.
11:38:01AM BUT HAD THE APPLICATION FOR PERMITS BEEN MADE, IT WOULD HAVE
11:38:06AM REVEALED THAT YOU COULDN'T BUILD THAT FAR BACK ON THE
11:38:09AM PROPERTY.
11:38:10AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:38:30AM >> SHE SAID THAT SHE CREATED THE SPACE, SHE PUT AN AIR
11:38:58AM CONDITIONER, A WATER TANK, A SPRINKLER, AND I DON'T BELIEVE
11:39:02AM SHE WAS AWARE OF ANY ENCROACHMENT.
11:39:06AM OR OF ANY RULE REGARDING ENCROACHMENT.
11:39:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ASK HER, DOES SHE HAVE A -- DID SHE HIRE A
11:39:18AM LICENSED CONTRACTOR?
11:39:19AM >> NO, SIR, THEY DID IT HERSELF.
11:39:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:39:30AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:39:56AM >> SHE'S REFERRING TO THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE GENTLEMAN
11:39:59AM PRIOR AND SHE'S SHOWING PHOTOS OF HER YARD, HER SIDE YARD.
11:40:03AM >>(SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:40:11AM >> THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
11:40:22AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:40:31AM >> SHE SAID SHE HAD A SMALL BUILDING TO HOUSE THE SPRINKLER,
11:40:46AM AND OTHER ITEMS.
11:40:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: TURN IT AROUND AGAIN.
11:41:05AM >> INSIDE THE LITTLE STRUCTURE.
11:41:07AM >>HARRY COHEN: IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.
11:41:13AM (LAUGHTER).
11:41:18AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH).
11:41:20AM >> THIS IS A PICTURE OF HER BACKYARD.
11:41:26AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH).
11:41:37AM >> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT -- SHE SAID WHERE THE GENTLEMAN
11:41:43AM STATED THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY AREA FOR RUNOFF.
11:41:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IS THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S BOX THERE WITH THE
11:41:54AM DRAWINGS IN THE BACKYARD AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN THE FRONT
11:41:56AM YARD WHERE IT BELONGS?
11:41:58AM I'M JUST CURIOUS.
11:41:59AM THAT THING THAT'S LEANING AGAINST THE WALL.
11:42:01AM THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.
11:42:02AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH).
11:42:07AM >> OH, THE PERMIT, YES, SIR.
11:42:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FRONT OF THE
11:42:13AM YARD.
11:42:13AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:42:34AM [NO ENCODER]
11:43:07AM [NO ENCODER]
11:43:10AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH)
11:43:11AM >> AFTERWARDS WHEN SHE FOUND OUT THAT SHE HAD TO PUT THE
11:43:19AM SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN.
11:43:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU ARE FINDING IT MORE IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW
11:43:23AM THE RULES FIRST RATHER THEN ASK PERMISSION, NO?
11:43:29AM >> (SPEAKING SPANISH).
11:43:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MORE TIME AND MONEY FOR YOU.
11:43:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:43:39AM ANYTHING ELSE SHE WANT TO SAY IN CONCLUSION?
11:43:41AM >> NO, SIR.
11:43:45AM THANK YOU.
11:43:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:43:51AM YES, SIR?
11:43:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED
11:43:55AM SECTION 27-80 OF THE APPLICATION VARIANCE POWER WHICH IS A
11:43:59AM CRITERIA TO WHICH YOU APPLY TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.
11:44:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:44:07AM DID WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:44:10AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:44:11AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:44:12AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:44:15AM OPPOSED?
11:44:16AM WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:44:17AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE
11:44:23AM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
11:44:24AM >> SECOND.
11:44:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:44:27AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:44:29AM TO UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
11:44:33AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?
11:44:35AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:44:37AM OPPOSED?
11:44:38AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NAY.
11:44:40AM >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN VOTING NO AND MIRANDA ABSENT AT
11:44:50AM VOTE.
11:44:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:44:55AM >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DECISION WAS AT THE PRIOR HEARING.
11:45:00AM I EXPLAINED THAT --
11:45:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW
11:45:10AM BOARD WAS THE DECISION THAT PASSED.
11:45:12AM >> INTERPRETER: AND I TOLD HER THAT --
11:45:18AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND I THINK THE DECISION WAS TO ALLOW FOR
11:45:20AM THE SETBACK FOR THE FRONT YARD BUT NOT FOR THE BACKYARD.
11:45:24AM SO THE DECISION WAS THAT IT WOULD -- AND CORRECT ME IF I AM
11:45:28AM WRONG, MR. SHELBY OR ANYONE ELSE, THAT WE DID NOT FIND A
11:45:32AM HARDSHIP CONCERNING THE REDUCTION OF THE REAR YARD SETBACK
11:45:36AM FROM 20 FEET TO 14 FEET.
11:45:40AM SO THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED.
11:45:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT WAS PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-80.
11:45:47AM THANK YOU.
11:45:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:45:54AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 84.
11:45:56AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:46:01AM THIS IS VACATING 18-20, A PORTION OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
11:46:07AM AND I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
11:46:16AM [NO ENCODER]
11:47:01AM [NO ENCODER]
11:47:03AM AND THEN I HAVE ON THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION, THIS IS FOR THE --
11:47:09AM THIS IS THE MAIN BUILDING REQUEST, AND IT'S ABOUT 55 FEET
11:47:14AM ABOVE GRADE AND IT GOES TO ABOUT 360 FEET, AND PROJECTS
11:47:19AM ABOUT 2 FEET INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:47:27AM [NO ENCODER]
11:48:09AM [NO ENCODER]
11:48:10AM >> IT CLARIFIES WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITIONER WILL BE
11:48:14AM REQUIRED TO REMOVE ANY PORTIONS OF THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THE
11:48:19AM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:48:19AM SO THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD TO COME FORWARD ON THE
11:48:23AM VACATE RATHER THAN JUST ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.
11:48:26AM WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF TO WORK THROUGH SOME RESOLUTIONS
11:48:30AM AND ISSUES, AND IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER OBJECTIONS WE ASK
11:48:34AM FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
11:48:36AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:48:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL TO THE APPLICANT?
11:48:39AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 84?
11:48:42AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:48:43AM >> SECOND.
11:48:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:48:45AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:48:46AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:48:48AM OPPOSED?
11:48:49AM ALL RIGHT.
11:48:50AM MR. SUAREZ.
11:48:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT A ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
11:48:56AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
11:48:57AM DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A PORTION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY, CERTAIN
11:49:04AM RIGHT-OF-WAY AIRSPACE OVER THAT PORTION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:49:06AM ABOVE CHANNELSIDE DRIVE, 13th STREET BY PLAT, MEANING
11:49:12AM PLAT ON THE MAP, NOT PLATT THE STREET, LYING SOUTH OF EAST
11:49:16AM WHITING STREET IN YBOR CHANNEL, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
11:49:18AM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE
11:49:22AM FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
11:49:26AM COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY
11:49:29AM SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:49:30AM >> SECOND.
11:49:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: JUST STATE THAT YOU MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE
11:49:33AM ORDINANCE.
11:49:34AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
11:49:36AM THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE LISTED HERE, BUT IF IT'S ON
11:49:39AM HERE, TERRIFIC.
11:49:39AM IT'S ON THE ADDENDUM.
11:49:41AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:49:42AM AND IT SHOULD BE THE SAME, BUT IF IT'S THE SUBSTITUTE, I
11:49:44AM JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SAME THING ON HERE.
11:49:48AM I DON'T SO ANY CHANGES ON IT BUT IT IS THE SUBSTITUTE
11:49:50AM ORDINANCE.
11:49:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:49:52AM GOT A MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:49:54AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:49:55AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:49:57AM OPPOSED?
11:49:58AM ALL RIGHT.
11:50:04AM WE GO TO NUMBER 85.
11:50:07AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:50:11AM ITEM 85 IS A REVIEW HEARING ON DENIAL OF A DESIGN EXCEPTION
11:50:18AM 1.
11:50:18AM I AM GOING TO HAND OUT THE MOTIONS OF YOUR OPTIONS OF WHAT
11:50:21AM YOU CAN DO TODAY AS WELL AS YOU CAN REVIEW FOR DESIGN
11:50:28AM EXCEPTION.
11:50:28AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:50:31AM THIS IS DE-1-18-165.
11:50:35AM IT CONCERNS PROPERTY AT 1002 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, AND
11:50:41AM IT'S A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FOR A SIGN.
11:50:46AM THE CODE REQUIRES A SIGN AT 20 FEET TO BE SET BACK AT LEAST
11:50:51AM 15.
11:50:52AM THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT AT 1
11:50:59AM FOOT 9-INCH SETBACK IT WILL BE OUT OF THE VISIBILITY
11:51:03AM TRIANGLE.
11:51:07AM THIS IS THE PROPERTY.
11:51:08AM IT'S LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF 9th AND HILLSBOROUGH
11:51:12AM AVENUE.
11:51:13AM AS PART OF -- YOU SAW THE SITE PLAN THAT GENERALLY SHOWS THE
11:51:18AM LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED SIGN.
11:51:22AM I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITION, AND
11:51:26AM THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SIGN.
11:51:30AM I THINK THE INTENT IS TO REPLACE THAT SIGN WITH GENERALLY
11:51:36AM THIS LOCATION, WITH AN ELECTRONIC SIGN.
11:51:42AM STAFF FELT THAT AT 1 FOOT 9 INCHES, IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO THE
11:51:48AM FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
11:51:50AM WE FELT THAT A PUBLIC HEARING IS NEEDED.
11:51:52AM THE URBAN DESIGN SECTION REVIEWED IT AND DID NOT FEEL THAT
11:51:55AM IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THE SIGN.
11:51:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:52:03AM APPLICANT?
11:52:04AM >> I'M CLAUDE HENSLEY, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE
11:52:08AM PETITIONER.
11:52:09AM MY CONTENTION IS THAT I'M BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE
11:52:13AM WITH THIS SIGN.
11:52:14AM THERE'S VERY LITTLE ROOM ON THE PROPERTY.
11:52:19AM THIS IS SHOWING THAT THERE'S A D.O.T. SIGN HERE THAT BLOCKS
11:52:25AM THE CURRENT SIGN.
11:52:27AM MY INTENTION IS TO MODERNIZE THE SIGN AND GO AWAY FROM THE
11:52:31AM CURRENT PORTRAIT SIGN TO A LANDSCAPE DESIGN.
11:52:37AM IT'S NOT GOING TO LEND ITSELF TO PORTRAIT VERY WELL.
11:52:45AM IF I MOVE THE SIGN BACK, I'M INTO THE ROOF LINE OF THE
11:52:49AM BUILDING.
11:52:51AM THAT'S PART OF THE HARDSHIP.
11:52:53AM FURTHERMORE -- I APOLOGIZE FOR THE PICTURE BEING KIND OF
11:53:05AM DARK IT WAS CLOUDY THAT DAY.
11:53:09AM BUT GOING WESTBOUND ON HILLSBOROUGH, ALL OF THESE SIGNS
11:53:14AM WOULD BE BLOCKING THE SIGN.
11:53:16AM YOU CAN SEE THE SIGN IN THE DISTANCE DOWN HERE, BUT ALL OF
11:53:19AM THESE SIGNS, IF WE MOVE IT BACK, WOULD BE BLOCKING.
11:53:23AM SO I HAVE TWO HARDSHIPS.
11:53:25AM AND I REQUEST CONSIDERATION.
11:53:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU ARE REDUCING? ARE YOU REDUCING THE
11:53:36AM SIZE OF THE SIGN OR INCREASING THE SIZE?
11:53:39AM >> IT WOULD BE REDUCED FROM THE SIGN THAT'S THERE NOW.
11:53:44AM ADDITIONALLY, WE APPLIED FOR A BIGGER SIGN.
11:53:49AM MY SIGN CONTRACTOR IS WITH ME TODAY.
11:53:51AM WE DID NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE WERE KIND OF OUTSIDE
11:53:56AM THE BOUNDARIES.
11:53:56AM SO WE REDUCED THE SIGN TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
11:53:59AM WE ALSO MOVED IT BACK AS GLORIA MENTIONED TO COMPLY WITH THE
11:54:03AM ZONE OF VISIBILITY.
11:54:04AM WE FELT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE ON THAT FROM TAKING A PICTURE
11:54:08AM FROM THE STREET.
11:54:10AM BUT THE ONLY REAL REQUEST THAT WE HAVE TO NOT VIOLATE THE
11:54:18AM EXCEPTION THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS THE 1 FOOT 9 SETBACK.
11:54:21AM EVERYTHING ELSE WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS WITHIN ALLOWABLE
11:54:24AM CODE.
11:54:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, I KNOW THAT THE SIGN THAT YOU SEE
11:54:30AM THAT UP THERE NOW, THE ONES THAT UP THERE NOW, THAT SIGN HAS
11:54:33AM BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
11:54:34AM >> YES, SIR.
11:54:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THERE USED TO BE WHAT DO THEY CALL IT,
11:54:40AM CHICK FIL-A OR SOMETHING, FISH FILET OR SOMETHING.
11:54:44AM FISH AND CHIPS, YEAH.
11:54:46AM USED TO BE THERE FOR A LONG, LOPPING TIME.
11:54:48AM AND SO DO YOU HAVE A RENDERING OF WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE DO?
11:54:56AM >> I DO, SIR.
11:54:57AM JUST ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
11:55:11AM WE FEEL THIS SIGN WOULD BE QUITE MODERN AND A CREDIT TO THE
11:55:16AM CITY.
11:55:16AM THE PROPERTY WAS QUITE AN EYESORE BEFORE I GOT AHOLD OF IT.
11:55:20AM AND I GOT THE PROPERTY IN PRETTY DARN GOOD SHAPE, AND A
11:55:26AM CREDIT TO THE CITY, I WILL BE.
11:55:28AM BUT THIS CITY WOULD CERTAINLY MODERNIZE THE PROPERTY AND
11:55:30AM MAKE IT LOOK MUCH MORE LIKE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:55:34AM WOULD LIKE TO THERE.
11:55:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO THAT BUILDING WOULD GO TO A LOCKSMITH.
11:55:44AM >> OUR SPECIALTY IS THE HIGH TECH CAR KEYS.
11:55:49AM THEY HAVE A CHIP IN THEM AND WE HAVE SHOPS IN PINELLAS,
11:55:55AM SARASOTA, BRANDON.
11:55:56AM I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING IN TAMPA.
11:55:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
11:56:00AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:56:13AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY?
11:56:15AM >> MY BELIEVE IS IT IS ON THE PROPERTY ACCORDING TO THE
11:56:17AM SURVEY.
11:56:18AM I AM PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET MUCH COOPERATION FROM THE LT
11:56:21AM ABOUT MOVING IT AND I REALLY DID WANT TO ASK THEM TO.
11:56:24AM I SEE THE PURPOSE OF THAT SIGN.
11:56:25AM IT IS TO COMPLY WITH THAT INTERSECTION COMING UP.
11:56:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BUT IF YOU OWN THE LAND, I MEAN, YOU SHOULD
11:56:31AM HAVE SOME RIGHT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALLOW THEM TO USE
11:56:34AM IT THERE.
11:56:34AM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME PART OF YOUR PURCHASE OF
11:56:37AM THE BUILDING AND MAYBE THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH FDOT THAT
11:56:41AM ALLOWS YOU EITHER YOU SOLD A PIECE OF THAT, OR BASED ON YOUR
11:56:44AM SURVEY.
11:56:45AM NOTHING INDICATES THAT AT ALL?
11:56:50AM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS GOES THROUGH, THAT'S STILL
11:56:52AM GOING TO BE BLOCKING -- NOT BLOCKING BUT GOING TO BE STILL
11:56:55AM AN EYESORE ON YOUR PROPERTY SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS
11:56:58AM ABOUT.
11:56:58AM >> YES, SIR.
11:56:59AM WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THE BOTTOM OF OUR SIGN WILL BE NOT QUITE
11:57:04AM A FOOT ABOVE THE D.O.T. SIGN THE WAY WE HAVE DESIGNED IT.
11:57:08AM THEN THE TOP OF IT WOULD BE AT THE CURRENT LEVEL, LIMIT OF
11:57:13AM CODE.
11:57:13AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE SIGN THAT YOU HAVE DESIGNED HERE, IS
11:57:17AM THAT GOING TO BE A CHANGING SIGN WHERE THE LED CHANGES AND
11:57:20AM EVERYTHING?
11:57:21AM >> YES.
11:57:21AM WE ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH ALL CODES IN TERMS OF THE CITY,
11:57:25AM IN TERMS OF HOW OFTEN IT CAN CHANGE.
11:57:28AM KEITH PROBABLY KNOWS.
11:57:29AM I DON'T.
11:57:30AM PINELLAS PARK, CITY OF ST. PETE, WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE
11:57:33AM EVERY SIX SECONDS.
11:57:35AM NO SCROLLING, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
11:57:39AM SO WHATEVER THE CITY CODE IS, WE WILL COMPLY.
11:57:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:57:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:57:49AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 85?
11:57:59AM I THOUGHT --
11:58:02AM >> I'M THE SIGN CONTRACTOR.
11:58:06AM THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS.
11:58:07AM YOU ASKED ABOUT THE OVERALL REDUCTION OF IT.
11:58:09AM I WANT TO BRING --
11:58:10AM >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:58:11AM >> KEITH JAMMAN, WITH MID FLORIDA SIGNS AND GRAPHICS, AND
11:58:16AM THE SIGN IS -- YOU ASKED IF THE SIGN WAS GOING TO BE
11:58:22AM SMALLER.
11:58:22AM THE SIGN IS EXISTING AT 22-FOOT OVERALL HEIGHT AND 100
11:58:25AM SQUARE FEET, 96 SQUARE FOOT OF COPY AREA.
11:58:29AM IT WILL BE ALMOST HALF THE EXISTING SIGN AND WILL COME DOWN
11:58:32AM TO THE CONFORMING 20-FOOT OVERALL HEIGHT LIMIT.
11:58:35AM THE CODE DOES STATE THAT WE CAN WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS
11:58:38AM OF AN EXISTING SIGN IF THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AND YOU CAN
11:58:41AM DO FACE REPLACEMENT ON THE EXISTING SIGNS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY
11:58:44AM UTILIZE THAT EXISTING SIGN AS IT IS TODAY AND CREATE
11:58:48AM PLACEMENT FOR IT AND REUSE IT.
11:58:50AM HOWEVER THAT WOULD OVERHANG TO THE FDOT AND HAVE MORE PROPER
11:58:54AM AT THAT TIME OF SHADE AND STILL THE 22-FOOT OVERALL HEIGHT
11:58:59AM SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO SET IT BACK AT 1 FOOT 9 INCHES THE
11:59:02AM LEADING EM AND GO WITH A 20-FOOT OVERALL AND HALF THE SIZE
11:59:06AM OF THE ORIGINAL SIGN.
11:59:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:59:08AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:59:12AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I BELIEVE IN SIGNAGE.
11:59:15AM BUSINESSES NEED -- I HAD A BUSINESS ON DALE MABRY.
11:59:17AM I KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE.
11:59:19AM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:59:22AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: LET PEOPLE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT AND WHAT
11:59:24AM YOU DO.
11:59:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER
11:59:31AM 85?
11:59:31AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:59:34AM >> SECOND.
11:59:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:59:36AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
11:59:37AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:59:39AM OPPOSED?
11:59:40AM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:59:41AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE TO REVERSE THE FINDING OF VRB.
11:59:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT'S A MOTION?
11:59:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, SIR.
11:59:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WISH -- NO, NO, NO.
11:59:59AM IF YOU WISH TO REFER TO THE SAMPLE MOTION THAT'S BEEN
12:00:02PM PROVIDED, YOU CAN READ THE SECOND ONE TO MOVE TO REVERSE.
12:00:05PM YOU SEE THAT FIRST OR SECOND PARAGRAPH.
12:00:07PM THE PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS I MOVE --
12:00:09PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING
12:00:11PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL FOR ZONING APPLICATION DE 1-18-165
12:00:16PM BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION -- IF
12:00:20PM THE WAIVERS WERE GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE
12:00:23PM GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-60.
12:00:27PM >> SECOND.
12:00:28PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.
12:00:30PM SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
12:00:32PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:00:33PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY YAY.
12:00:36PM THOSE OPPOSED?
12:00:39PM >> MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
12:00:42PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:00:46PM COUNCIL, WE NEED ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
12:00:50PM >> MOVE FOR ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES.
12:00:52PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
12:00:53PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AN
12:00:57PM ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES.
12:00:58PM OKAY.
12:00:58PM ITEM NUMBER 86.
12:01:00PM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:01:03PM ITEM 86 IS A REVIEW HEARING ON A DECISION. ZONING
12:01:07PM ADMINISTRATOR RELATING TO A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
12:01:10PM THE CRITERIA ARE DIFFERENT.
12:01:12PM THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER, AND CITY COUNCIL CAN REVERSE,
12:01:17PM THEREBY GRANTING SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF YOU FIND THAT THE
12:01:19PM WAIVERS ARE GRANTED AND STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL
12:01:21PM STANDARDS.
12:01:21PM THE GENERAL STANDARDS ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
12:01:23PM >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
12:01:31PM THE REQUEST IS SU-1-18-33, PROPERTY ZONED RS-60, AND IT IS
12:01:38PM LOCATED AT 3108 WEST HARBOR VIEW AVENUE.
12:01:44PM I HAVE AN AERIAL HERE THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION, JUST LESS
12:01:51PM THAN MacDILL.
12:01:53PM A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
12:01:58PM AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK IS THE
12:02:01PM LOCATION WHERE THE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS BEING PROPOSED.
12:02:10PM THE APPLICATION REQUIRES OR THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA
12:02:15PM REQUIRES THAT THE STRUCTURE BE A CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
12:02:19PM THAT STRUCTURE IS AT 988 SQUARE FEET, WHICH REQUIRES MAIN
12:02:25PM STRUCTURE COMPLIANCE.
12:02:27PM THAT WOULD BE A 7-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK.
12:02:30PM IT WAS -- IT ACTUALLY PUTS IT ABOUT A BE 1-FOOT SETBACK.
12:02:35PM WHENEVER AN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED THAT DOES NOT SHOW
12:02:38PM COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, I DO ISSUE A
12:02:44PM DENIAL.
12:02:44PM THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO REQUEST A WAIVER OF THAT CONDITION.
12:02:46PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
12:02:48PM APPLICANT?
12:02:49PM >> I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING BUT IT'S AFTERNOON NOW.
12:02:54PM MY NAME IS TOM YURKOVITCH, 3108 WEST HARBOR VIEW AVENUE.
12:03:03PM THE VARIANCE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET MY MOTHER-IN-LAW
12:03:10PM INTO -- WELL, WRONG PART.
12:03:13PM I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
12:03:18PM WE HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE WITH A LIVING AREA ABOVE IT AND
12:03:21PM IT'S ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY.
12:03:24PM IT WAS BUILT IN 1947.
12:03:27PM WELL, SINCE THEN, OUR HOUSE THAT WE BOUGHT BACK IN 97 WAS
12:03:31PM BUILT BACK IN 1968.
12:03:33PM AND THAT WAS TURNED INTO THE GARAGE AND IT STILL HAS A
12:03:36PM LIVING AREA UP TO.
12:03:38PM AND THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE THIS INTO A
12:03:44PM MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE IS BECAUSE MY IN-LAWS MOVED INTO OUR
12:03:49PM MAIN HOUSE.
12:03:56PM [NO ENCODER]
12:04:41PM [NO ENCODER]
12:04:41PM >> THERE'S THE TWO STIPULATIONS, THE SETBACK ON THE SIDE OF
12:04:47PM THE PROPERTY IS ONLY ONE FOOT AND THE HEIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS
12:04:53PM A TWO-STORY HOUSE AT FIRST, IT'S TALLER THAN THE MAXIMUM
12:04:58PM HEIGHT OF THE DETACHED BUILDING TO RENOVATE.
12:05:04PM THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE TO SEE IF WE CAN
12:05:08PM GO AHEAD AND GET THIS THING RENOVATED FOR HER.
12:05:12PM AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TO DO THAT.
12:05:14PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:05:21PM >> WE ARE NOT ADDING ANY LIVING AREA, ANY EXTRA LIVING AREA
12:05:27PM TO THE SITE ITSELF.
12:05:30PM IT ONLY HAS 530 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING AREA.
12:05:34PM THE ONLY THING WE ARE DOING IS TAKE OUT THE GARAGE BELOW,
12:05:37PM THERE'S A STAIRWELL THAT GOES UP INSIDE THE GARAGE.
12:05:40PM WE ARE TAKING THAT OUT BECAUSE IT'S VERY LOW AND IT'S HARD
12:05:43PM TO WALK UP TO IT.
12:05:44PM AND WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY
12:05:46PM WHERE THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH ANY SETBACKS AT ALL, LIKE 25
12:05:50PM FEET.
12:05:51PM SO WE ARE ALL RIGHT THERE.
12:05:52PM IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE -- THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS BUILT
12:05:57PM THAT CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT
12:06:00PM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
12:06:00PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:06:02PM >> PARDON IT?
12:06:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO, NO.
12:06:08PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 86?
12:06:12PM I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:06:13PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
12:06:14PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:06:16PM OPPOSED?
12:06:17PM ALL RIGHT.
12:06:17PM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:06:18PM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
12:06:23PM DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SU-1-18-33 US
12:06:31PM WHAT IF THE WAIVERS ARE GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
12:06:33PM APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN 27-129, SEE
12:06:38PM SECTION 27-61-B AND 27-127-C-2.
12:06:44PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
12:06:46PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:06:47PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:06:49PM OPPOSED?
12:06:50PM ALL RIGHT.
12:06:51PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:06:52PM ALL RIGHT.
12:06:52PM WE GO BACK TO ITEM 76 AND 77.
12:06:56PM ARE YOU READY?
12:07:06PM 76 AND 77.
12:07:08PM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:07:10PM WE HAVE MADE THE REVISION.
12:07:11PM BECAUSE OF THE ACTUAL DATE ON APRIL 17th BUT WE
12:07:14PM TYPICALLY ADOPT OUR CODE ON THE 15th OR THE 1st SO I
12:07:20PM MADE IT THE 15th WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE TWO OF DAYS BUT
12:07:23PM IT SHOULD COINCIDE WELL WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE OTHER
12:07:26PM ORDINANCE.
12:07:27PM I HAVE BOTH OF THEM HERE FOR YOU TO READ THE ACTUAL
12:07:29PM ORDINANCE.
12:07:29PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
12:07:31PM >>KRISTIN MORA: 76 IS THE SHORTER ONE.
12:07:42PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ, WOULD YOU READ THE SHORTER
12:07:52PM VERSION?
12:07:53PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T HAVE MR. COHEN DO
12:07:59PM THAT ONE.
12:08:00PM (LAUGHTER)
12:08:02PM SORRY.
12:08:07PM AT LEAST HE HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR.
12:08:09PM I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE OF
12:08:12PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO TREE REMOVAL MAKING
12:08:15PM REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 13
12:08:18PM LANDSCAPING, TREE REMOVAL AND SITE CLEARING, AMENDING
12:08:21PM SECTION 13-45, SAME, TREE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT AND TREE
12:08:25PM TRIMMING, EXEMPTIONS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PART OF
12:08:28PM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
12:08:31PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:08:32PM >> SECOND.
12:08:33PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:08:37PM YES, SIR?
12:08:41PM >>HARRY COHEN:
12:08:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A QUESTION. THIS IS FOR SECOND
12:08:44PM READING?
12:08:45PM >> I APOLOGIZE.
12:08:45PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
12:08:48PM AND IT'S A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
12:08:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
12:08:53PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:08:56PM SECOND READING.
12:08:56PM SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:08:59PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:09:00PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
12:09:01PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:09:14PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
12:09:20PM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:09:24PM I MOVE THIS ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING.
12:09:27PM AN ORDINANCE AND A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE
12:09:30PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO TREE REMOVAL MAKING
12:09:32PM REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 13,
12:09:36PM LANDSCAPING, TREE REMOVAL AND SITE CLEARING, AMENDING
12:09:39PM SECTION 13-6, CHARACTERISTICS OF PROTECTED TREES, AMENDING
12:09:44PM SECTION 13-7, EXEMPTIONS FOR CERTAIN TREES, DEPARTMENTS AND
12:09:49PM AVIATION PUBLIC SAFETY, AMENDING SECTION 13-9, TREE STUDY,
12:09:53PM CREATING SECTION 13-44.1, TREE PLANTING PERMIT FOR
12:09:57PM MITIGATION TREES, AMENDING SECTION 13-165, TREE MITIGATION
12:10:02PM METHOD, REQUIREMENTS, CHAPTER 16, PARKS AND RECREATION,
12:10:06PM AMENDING SECTION 16-86, TREE TRUST FUND ESTABLISHED, CHAPTER
12:10:11PM 27, ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, CREATING SECTION 27-20,
12:10:16PM PLANNING DISTRICTS, AMENDING SECTION 27-43, DEFINITIONS,
12:10:21PM AMENDING SECTION 27-285 .1, LANDSCAPE AND TREE PLANTING
12:10:27PM STANDARD, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PART OF ORDINANCES IN
12:10:30PM CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
12:10:32PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:10:32PM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
12:10:36PM SECOND BY MRS. CAPIN.
12:10:38PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
12:10:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:10:47PM >> THANK YOU, STAFF.
12:10:48PM >> YES, THANK YOU, STAFF.
12:10:52PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
12:10:56PM >>HARRY COHEN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
12:11:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
12:11:09PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:11:10PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:11:11PM OPPOSED.
12:11:12PM WE GO TO STAFF REPORT.
12:11:13PM ITEM NUMBER 87.
12:11:14PM >> ERIC HAYDEN. I'M WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES, AND HERE
12:11:28PM TO REPORT ON THE STATUS OF YOUR CABLE TV REQUEST AS WELL AS
12:11:31PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:11:33PM FIRST OF ALL, CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
12:11:35PM ALL OF THE CABLE HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING.
12:11:37PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FROM THE TOP DOWN.
12:11:39PM SO MOST OF THE LEGAL FLOORS HAVE BEEN DONE.
12:11:43PM WE ARE DOWN TO THIS FLOOR.
12:11:45PM SO THERE'S EIGHT PORTS REMAINING TO BE PORTED OVER, AND THEN
12:11:50PM YOUR CABLE TV ACCESS WILL BE RESTORED.
12:11:52PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU SAY YOU ARE DOWN TO THIS FLOOR, THE
12:11:54PM THIRD FLOOR, RIGHT?
12:11:55PM >> IT'S THE THIRD FLOOR BUT ALSO AS YOU CAN TELL IT'S A
12:11:58PM SPECIAL TYPE OF FLOOR WITH ARCHITECTURE AND TECHNOLOGY.
12:12:00PM SO THIS ONE HAS TO HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TYPE OF
12:12:03PM CONSTRUCTION.
12:12:03PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:12:06PM WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS BEING COMPLETED?
12:12:08PM >> I'M ANTICIPATING THE NEXT FIVE BUSINESS DAYS.
12:12:13PM WE ARE TALKING WITH SPECTRUM, AND SPECTRUM IS SCHEDULING
12:12:16PM INSTALLERS AS WE SPEAK.
12:12:17PM I HAD CONFIRMATION THIS MORNING.
12:12:21PM WE CAN KEEP PUSHING ON THEM, BUT THIS IS THE LAST FLOOR.
12:12:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT AMAZES ME IS
12:12:28PM SPECTRUM, THEY HAD ALL THESE TRUCKS LINED UP EVERYWHERE
12:12:31PM AROUND HERE AND THEY ARE ALL IN THE HALLWAYS AND EVERYWHERE.
12:12:35PM AND NOW THEY COME IN HERE AND PUT ALL THESE TOOLS, WIRING,
12:12:38PM WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING, AND THEY DISAPPEAR.
12:12:40PM I HAVEN'T SEEN A SPECTRUM TRUCK OUT HERE SINCE.
12:12:44PM SO WE WANT THIS DONE.
12:12:49PM WE HAVE WAITED A LONG TIME.
12:12:51PM AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE KEEP -- EACH TIME SOMEONE APPEARS
12:12:56PM BEFORE US TO DISCUSS THIS, THE DEADLINE THEY GIVE US NEVER
12:13:02PM COME THROUGH.
12:13:03PM SO NOW WE ARE SAYING FIVE DAYS.
12:13:05PM >> THAT'S OUR BEST ESTIMATE BASED ON THEIR SCHEDULES.
12:13:10PM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL QUESTION.
12:13:16PM THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH SPECTRUM, CORRECT?
12:13:19PM >> THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
12:13:21PM WE USED TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SPECTRUM WHEN IT WAS BRIGHT
12:13:24PM HOUSE.
12:13:25PM SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
12:13:27PM IT WAS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
12:13:29PM FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WORKS WITH THE STATE.
12:13:31PM WE ALSO HAVE ONE HERE WITH US.
12:13:32PM THAT EXPIRED IN 2015.
12:13:34PM SO WE ARE ACTUALLY AT THE SAME TIME WORKING ON A NEW MASTER
12:13:38PM SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SPECTRUM.
12:13:39PM SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF THESE NEW ORDERS, NEW
12:13:43PM INSTALLS, VISIT, THINGS LIKE THAT, TAKEN CARE OF MUCH, MUCH
12:13:48PM SIMPLER THAN RELYING COMPLETELY ON SPECTRUM TO USE WHAT WE
12:13:51PM CALL LEGACY SUPPORT.
12:13:53PM THE WAY THEY ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING TODAY IS IF ADDRESSES
12:13:57PM HAVE CABLE SERVICE, THEY CAN COME IN AND WORK WITH IT, OKAY.
12:14:01PM BUT THEY ARE NOW BRINGING CONTRACTS TO SIGN.
12:14:05PM AND OUR ADVICE FROM LEGAL IS THAT WE MUST HAVE A MASTER
12:14:09PM SERVICES AGREEMENT BACK IN PLACE SO A LOT OF THESE
12:14:12PM INSTRUMENTS CAN BE CARRIED OUT MUCH SIMPLER.
12:14:13PM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU HAVE ANY PROVISION IN THERE, IN THE
12:14:18PM AGREEMENT, TENTATIVE, THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE AGAINST SPECTRUM,
12:14:27PM A CONTRACT WHEN THE SERVICES ARE DOWN, AND THEY ARE DOING A
12:14:32PM PITIFUL JOB WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE.
12:14:37PM AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE AROUND LONG WITH THIS CUSTOMER
12:14:42PM SERVICE, BECAUSE THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
12:14:44PM NOT ONLY WITH BUSINESSES, BUT I HAVE SPECTRUM AT MY HOUSE,
12:14:50PM AND I TELL YOU, I HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH THEIR REMOTE
12:14:55PM CONTROL, ONE BUTTON WILL WORK ONE DAY AND THE NEXT DAY
12:14:59PM ANOTHER BUTTON WON'T WORK.
12:15:01PM AND I MEAN IT'S JUST A MESS.
12:15:05PM SO I'M JUST HOPING SOME PROVISION BE PUT IN THERE THAT
12:15:11PM UTILIZE AGAINST THEM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE IN
12:15:15PM THE CITY HAVE BEEN WAITING BUT I AIN'T NEVER SEEN SOMETHING
12:15:17PM LIKE THIS. ONE TV COME ON, ALL OF THEM GO OFF.
12:15:21PM WHEN THOSE COME ON, THE ONE THAT WAS WORKING GO OFF.
12:15:25PM SO IT'S JUST A MESS.
12:15:27PM AND SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID THIS MORNING.
12:15:31PM BUT I HOPE YOU ALL INSTALL SOME TYPE OF PROVISION IN THERE
12:15:34PM WHERE THEY CAN BE PENALIZED, BECAUSE I AM PRETTY SURE WE ARE
12:15:39PM PAYING THEM A LOT OF MONEY.
12:15:42PM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:15:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW, MY OFFICE HAS NO TV.
12:15:45PM AND WITH MY AIDE, SHE WATCHES THE COMPUTER OR GO TO THE
12:15:50PM COMPUTER TO WATCH THE MEETING.
12:15:51PM AT THE SAME TIME SHE HAS TO RESPOND TO E-MAILS AND DO OTHER
12:15:54PM WORK.
12:15:54PM SO SHE CAN'T DO BOTH.
12:15:55PM AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING ON THE MEETING DAYS THAT WE HAVE.
12:15:59PM YOU SAY FIVE DAYS.
12:16:00PM WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING NEXT THURSDAY.
12:16:01PM SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.
12:16:03PM WE WILL BE BACK IN BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S BACK AND FORTH.
12:16:07PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I AGREE WITH OUR CHAIRMAN.
12:16:10PM THERE SHOULD BE A PENALTY IN THERE, IN THAT CONTRACT.
12:16:16PM JUST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
12:16:17PM MY DAUGHTER HAS SPECTRUM.
12:16:19PM INTERNET AND CABLE.
12:16:21PM FOUR TIMES THIS YEAR IT'S DOWN.
12:16:24PM AND THEY DON'T COME ANY SOONER THAN FOUR OR FIVE DAYS.
12:16:27PM SO SHE'S WITHOUT CABLE AND INTERNET FOR FOUR OR FIVE DAYS.
12:16:30PM AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR SERVICE.
12:16:35PM TOO BAD.
12:16:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
12:16:39PM >>HARRY COHEN: IF WE RAN THE SOLID WASTE AND WATER
12:16:41PM DEPARTMENT LIKE THAT, THIS WOULD BE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
12:16:44PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
12:16:45PM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND THEY ALWAYS TELL YOU, JUST UNPLUG THE
12:16:49PM BACK AND WAIT 30 SECONDS AND THEN PLUG IT BACK IN. AND
12:16:52PM NOTHING WORKS.
12:16:53PM SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST FRUSTRATED.
12:16:57PM ANYBODY ELSE?
12:16:58PM ALL RIGHT.
12:16:59PM THANKS.
12:17:00PM I APPRECIATE IT.
12:17:04PM WE GO TO 49.
12:17:12PM NUMBER 49.
12:17:12PM >> JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
12:17:17PM JEAN DUNCAN, WITH TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.
12:17:21PM WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY, IS A CONTRACT APPROVAL
12:17:26PM FOR A PURCHASE OF A PROPERTY THAT HAS REPETITIVE FLOODING.
12:17:34PM A PROCESS TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION WITH PROPERTY OWNERS
12:17:36PM THAT APPROACH US ABOUT REPETITIVE STRUCTURAL FLOODING
12:17:41PM SITUATION.
12:17:41PM OUR GOAL IS TO LOOK AND SEE HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH AN
12:17:45PM INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO
12:17:48PM KEEP AS MANY PROPERTIES BEING USED AT THEIR HIGHEST AND BEST
12:17:52PM USE, KEEP THEM ON THE TAX ROLLS, BUT IN SOME CASES THERE
12:17:55PM JUST IS NOT ANY OTHER OPTION BUT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM
12:17:58PM THROUGH A PURCHASE, AND THAT IS THE CASE WITH THIS
12:18:02PM PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
12:18:03PM SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT'S BEEN VOLUNTARILY NEGOTIATED
12:18:08PM WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
12:18:09PM THEY HAVE SIGNED THE CONTRACT, AND THE ACTION TODAY WOULD BE
12:18:12PM FOR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT TRANSACTION, AND THEN OF
12:18:17PM COURSE IT WILL GO TO THE MAYOR, AND THAT PROCESS WILL BE
12:18:21PM FINALIZED.
12:18:23PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS
12:18:26PM PROPERTY PURCHASE.
12:18:26PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:18:28PM MR. COHEN?
12:18:29PM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THE HOUSE BEING TORN DOWN AND A RETENTION
12:18:32PM POND IS BEING PUT THERE?
12:18:33PM THAT'S THE PLAN?
12:18:36PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: SO YES, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE
12:18:39PM STRUCTURE.
12:18:39PM THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO OTHER PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THIS
12:18:42PM PARTICULAR ONE THAT WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
12:18:46PM PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL.
12:18:48PM AND WE WOULD THEN DEVELOP A SPECIFIC PLANS FOR THAT PROPERTY
12:18:55PM OR PROPERTIES TO OPERATE IN A RETENTION CAPACITY.
12:19:01PM AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF TAKING THOSE NEXT STEPS, WE
12:19:05PM WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING WITH THE AFFECTED
12:19:08PM NEIGHBORS SO WE CAN GET THEIR INPUT, THEIR CONCERNS, AS WE
12:19:12PM DEVELOP THAT PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
12:19:13PM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:19:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT ANSWERS MY CONCERNS THAT YOU ARE
12:19:22PM MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE AWARE OF IT.
12:19:25PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
12:19:27PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THIS IS PART OF OUR LARGER STORMWATER
12:19:29PM PROCESS FOR THE LARGER BASIN, THE SOUTH BASIN?
12:19:32PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
12:19:33PM WE ACTUALLY HAD A NUMBER OF PURCHASES RECENTLY IN THE NORTH
12:19:36PM BASIN AREA. THIS IS A SIMILAR TYPE SITUATION, WHERE THERE
12:19:42PM IS AN STRUCTURE SOLUTION, SO WE WILL WORK IT WITH A POCKET
12:19:47PM POND SO TO SPEAK, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO A PUBLIC
12:19:50PM ENGAGEMENT BEFORE WE GO TO ANY FINAL DESIGN PLANS OR
12:19:54PM CONSTRUCTION.
12:19:54PM SO WE HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF THOSE AROUND THE CITY AND THERE'S
12:19:59PM REALLY NO OTHER OPTION.
12:20:00PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
12:20:02PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THE
12:20:04PM RESOLUTION?
12:20:05PM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:20:06PM >> SECOND.
12:20:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
12:20:08PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:20:09PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:20:11PM OPPOSED?
12:20:12PM ALL RIGHT.
12:20:12PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
12:20:15PM MR. VIERA.
12:20:16PM >> NO, SIR.
12:20:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
12:20:19PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
12:20:20PM CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR OWN TAMPA BAY -- IT LOOKED LIKE A
12:20:30PM NAME.
12:20:31PM I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT.
12:20:32PM (LAUGHTER)
12:20:36PM FOR WINNING THE AMERICAN LEAGUE CY YOUNG AWARD.
12:20:39PM THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
12:20:41PM I UNDERSTAND HE'S QUITE A YOUNG MAN.
12:20:43PM AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION --
12:20:49PM [NO ENCODER]
12:21:16PM [NO ENCODER]
12:21:16PM >> HE HAS A WIFE, A ONE-YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND ANOTHER BABY
12:21:20PM ON THE WAY.
12:21:20PM SO MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.
12:21:23PM >>HARRY COHEN: I HAVE TWO ITEMS.
12:21:25PM THE FIRST IS, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE SAW THE NEWS THIS
12:21:29PM MORNING THAT THE MAYOR MADE THE FIRST APPOINTMENT TO THE
12:21:33PM TRANSPORTATION OVERSIGHT BOARD AND HE APPOINTED FORMER
12:21:36PM SENATOR JOYNER.
12:21:37PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CITY CLERK TO
12:21:40PM ADVERTISE THE ONE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT TO THE
12:21:42PM INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CREATED BY ALL FOR
12:21:46PM TRANSPORTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO COME UP AND
12:21:49PM THE PUBLIC THAT WHEN THE POPULATION OF OUR CITY GROWS BY
12:21:52PM ABOUT 15,000 MORE PEOPLE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL GET AN
12:21:56PM ADDITIONAL APPOINTMENT.
12:21:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
12:22:01PM MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
12:22:02PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:22:03PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:22:05PM OPPOSED?
12:22:05PM >>HARRY COHEN: MY SECOND IS I WOULD LIKE ON DECEMBER 6
12:22:10PM UNDER STAFF REPORTS TO HAVE KATHY BECK AND JEAN DUNCAN
12:22:13PM REPORT ON TREE REMOVALS ON CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:22:16PM IF THERE'S A PROCESS TO NOTIFY OWNERS OF PROPERTIES LOCATED
12:22:21PM IN FRONT OF THESE TREES AND WHAT ALTERNATIVES ARE AVAILABLE
12:22:23PM TO MITIGATE THE TYPE OF DANIEL CAUSED BY ROOT SYSTEMS TO
12:22:26PM SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.
12:22:32PM WAY WANTED TO SAY, MY OFFICE HAS HAD LIKE IN THE LAST WEEK
12:22:36PM FROM THREE DIFFERENT PARTS OF MY DISTRICT, DAVIS ISLAND,
12:22:40PM OVER IN SUNSET PARK, AND THEN ALSO IN PARKLAND ESTATES, WE
12:22:46PM HAVE HAD THESE INCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE LITERALLY COME HOME
12:22:48PM AND THE TREES THEY HAVE HAD THERE FOR 25 YEARS ARE GONE.
12:22:52PM AND WE JUST WANT TO FIND OUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING WITH SUCH
12:22:56PM REGULARITY.
12:22:56PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, MR. COHEN, A SUGGESTION MAYBE TO
12:23:00PM PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER 29th WORKSHOP.
12:23:03PM >>HARRY COHEN: WHAT A GREAT SUGGESTION.
12:23:05PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH TREES COMING OUT OF
12:23:08PM OUR EARS THAT DAY.
12:23:09PM >>HARRY COHEN: NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL WHERE THE INCIDENT
12:23:16PM OCCURRED.
12:23:16PM BUT YES, I ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
12:23:20PM LET'S DO IT ON THE 29th CONCURRENT WITH BE THE TREE
12:23:23PM WORKSHOP THAT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED.
12:23:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL THIS TREE DISCUSSION, I AM GOING TO BE
12:23:27PM AFRAID TO USE ANY WOOD.
12:23:29PM (LAUGHTER).
12:23:31PM >>HARRY COHEN: THERE'S PLENTY WITH THE TREES THEY TOOK
12:23:36PM DOWN.
12:23:37PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
12:23:38PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:23:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:23:41PM OPPOSED?
12:23:41PM MR. SUAREZ.
12:23:42PM >>HARRY COHEN:
12:23:43PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M GLAD THAT MR. COHEN BROUGHT UP THAT
12:23:45PM POINT ABOUT OUR CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT.
12:23:47PM I AM NOT SURE THAT THE MAYOR UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ACTUALLY
12:23:51PM WILL HAVE MORE APPOINTMENTS THAN HE WILL TO THAT BOARD,
12:23:53PM WHICH I FIND INTERESTING.
12:23:55PM SECONDLY, I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW
12:23:57PM THEY DETERMINE A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEGAL ISSUES BECAUSE
12:24:00PM THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT
12:24:03PM YET.
12:24:04PM LASTLY, HAPPY THANKSGIVING NEXT WEEK AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT
12:24:07PM THERE.
12:24:07PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:24:08PM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:24:09PM >> SECOND.
12:24:10PM >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY MR. SUAREZ, SECOND BY MR.
12:24:13PM MIRANDA.
12:24:14PM ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED?
12:24:15PM ALL RIGHT.
12:24:16PM HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
12:24:20PM
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