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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6, 2018
9:00 A.M.

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8:24:31AM [NO AUDIO]
9:09:14AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: -- BRANCH OF CHABAD, THE LARGEST JEWISH
9:09:15AM OUTREACH ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD WITH OVER 3500 BRANCHES
9:09:17AM IN 80 COUNTRIES.
9:09:19AM HERE LOCALLY, CHABAD OFFERS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR ADULTS
9:09:23AM AND CHILDREN, COMMUNITY HOLIDAY CELEBRATIONS, COUNSELING AND
9:09:25AM LIFE COACHING TO HUNDREDS OF SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENTS.
9:09:28AM THANK YOU, RABBI MENDY, FOR ALL YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:09:30AM WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL.
9:09:31AM I THINK YOU HAVE A LITTLE ASSISTANT THERE.
9:09:33AM IS THAT NESSY?
9:09:36AM COME ON UP HERE WITH NESSY AND DO THE INVOCATION.
9:09:40AM IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE AND STAY STANDING FOR THE
9:09:44AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

9:09:44AM THANK YOU.
9:09:48AM >> LET US PRAY.
9:09:49AM MASTER OF THE WORLD, LOOK FAVORABLY UPON THIS COUNCIL, THE
9:09:58AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, BLESS THEM WITH GOOD HEALTH, WISDOM AND
9:10:01AM COMPASSION THAT THEY MAY ENACT JUST LAWS ACCORDING TO YOUR
9:10:04AM WILL.
9:10:05AM LESS OUR DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILY AND
9:10:08AM LET THEM RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CHOSEN BY THOUSANDS
9:10:11AM OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLACED THEIR FAITH AND CONFIDENCE IN THEM
9:10:14AM TO MAKE LAWS AND DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR
9:10:17AM GREAT CITY.
9:10:18AM LET US ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HOLD A GOD-GIVEN POSITION,
9:10:22AM THE PERFORMANCE OF ONE OF THE SEVEN UNIVERSAL LAWS GIVEN TO
9:10:25AM NOAH, THE FATHER OF ALL HUMANITY, TO ENSURE A PEACEFUL AND
9:10:29AM MORAL SOCIETY GOVERNED BY THE RULE OF LAW.
9:10:32AM BLESS OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE
9:10:35AM MILITARY WHO CONSTANTLY SACRIFICE FOR THE FREEDOMS WE
9:10:39AM CHERISH.
9:10:40AM PROTECT THEM AND RETURN THEM SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES.
9:10:43AM TODAY, THE JEWISH PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE CELEBRATING
9:10:46AM THE FOURTH DAY OF HANUKKAH.
9:10:49AM THIS HOLIDAY COMMEMORATES THE FIGHT OF THE MACCABEES IN
9:10:52AM ANCIENT ISRAEL TO LIVE AND PRACTICE THEIR FAITH FREELY.
9:10:55AM ONCE VICTORIOUS, THEY RETURNED TO THEIR HOLY TEMPLE IN
9:10:59AM JERUSALEM TO KINDLE THEIR MENORAH, BUT ALAS THEY COULD ONLY

9:11:04AM FIND ONE FLASK OF PURE OIL WITH WHICH TO KINDLE IT.
9:11:07AM NONETHELESS, THE LIT THE MENORAH AND ONE SMALL JUG OF OIL
9:11:11AM MIRACULOUSLY REMAINED LIT FOR EIGHT DAYS UNTIL NEW OIL COULD
9:11:15AM BE PROCURED.
9:11:15AM THE MESSAGE OF HANUKKAH IS MORE TIMELY TODAY THAN EVER
9:11:19AM BEFORE.
9:11:20AM NO MATTER THE ODDS STACKED AGAINST US, NO MATTER THE
9:11:23AM DARKNESS, THE DESPAIR THAT SEEMS TO BE BUILDING AROUND US,
9:11:28AM EACH OF US POSSESSES A LIGHT, A SOUL, AND WE CAN AND MUST
9:11:33AM USE THIS TO ILLUMINATE OURSELVES AND OUR SURROUNDINGS.
9:11:38AM IMAGINE THE POWER WE CAN WIELD AS A THOUSAND POINTS OF LIGHT
9:11:42AM OR A MILLION BEACONS OF FREEDOM, TOLERANCE AND LOVE FOR ONE
9:11:47AM ANOTHER.
9:11:48AM ON THIS DAY, LET EACH OF US RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO BANISH
9:11:53AM HATE, BIGOTRY, RACISM IN ANY FARM.
9:11:56AM LET US ALL FIND THE INHERENT GOODNESS IN EACH OTHER AND
9:12:00AM POSITIVELY ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER TO FULFILL OUR CHARGE FROM
9:12:03AM THE ALMIGHTY TO PERFECT THE WORLD UNDER HIS SOVEREIGNTY.
9:12:07AM IN THIS WAY WE CAN BRING LIGHT IN PLACE OF DARKNESS,
9:12:11AM REDEMPTION IN PLACE OF DESPAIR AND HAPPINESS AND PEACE TO
9:12:15AM ALL WHO SEEK IT.
9:12:18AM LET US SAY AMEN.
9:12:19AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:12:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
9:12:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.

9:12:55AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:12:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:12:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:12:59AM >> MIRANDA?
9:13:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:13:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:13:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:13:05AM ALL RIGHT, GET APPROVAL FOR THE AGENDA.
9:13:10AM MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:13:12AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:13:13AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:13:14AM OPPOSED.
9:13:15AM ALL RIGHT.
9:13:16AM CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES, ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:13:21AM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:13:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE HAVE THE FOLKS FROM MOFFITT COME
9:13:29AM UP?
9:13:29AM I HAVE THIS COMMENDATION TO PRESENT TODAY TO THE MOFFITT
9:13:48AM CANCER CENTER.
9:13:51AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES MOFFITT CANCER CENTER,
9:13:54AM TAMPA'S PREMIER ONCOLOGICAL RESEARCH FACILITY, FOR HOSTING
9:13:59AM THE BUSINESS OF BIOTECH CONFERENCE FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS.
9:14:00AM FOR OVER A DECADE, MOFFITT CANCER CENTER HAS BROUGHT
9:14:03AM INVESTORS, BIOMEDICAL COMPANIES, STARTUP RESEARCHERS, AND
9:14:05AM OTHER INDUSTRY EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TOGETHER

9:14:08AM UNDER ONE ROOF.
9:14:09AM AT THIS GATHERING, THE BRIGHTEST MINDS IN BIOMEDICAL
9:14:12AM SCIENCES EXCHANGE IDEAS ON HOW TO USE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY
9:14:15AM TO COMBAT SOME OF THE BIGGEST HEALTH CARE CHALLENGES WE
9:14:17AM FACE.
9:14:18AM THE BUSINESS OF BIOTECH CONFERENCE NOT ONLY EXPOSES
9:14:22AM WORLD-CLASS MINDS TO ONE ANOTHER BUT ALSO EXPOSES INVESTORS
9:14:24AM AND ENTREPRENEURS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:14:25AM IN THIS DECADE THIS CONFERENCE HAS BEEN MADE IN EXISTENCE,
9:14:30AM MOFFITT CANCER CENTER HAS BROUGHT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO
9:14:32AM TAMPA.
9:14:32AM FURTHERMORE, WITH THE CITY ATTENDANCE GROWTH FROM ALMOST 200
9:14:35AM ATTENDEES DURING THE INAUGURAL CONFERENCE IN 2006 TO OVER
9:14:40AM 300 IN 2015.
9:14:41AM THE BUSINESS OF BIOTECH CONFERENCE TRULY WILL BRING
9:14:44AM THOUSANDS MORE IN THE YEARS TO COME.
9:14:45AM WHEN BRIGHT, DRIVEN INDIVIDUALS VISIT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:14:47AM EXPERIENCE WHAT OUR CITY HAS TO OFFER, WE ALL WIN.
9:14:52AM THIS COUNCIL COMMENDS MOFFITT CANCER CENTER FOR BEING
9:14:54AM EXCELLENT REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR CITY AND FOR RAISING
9:14:55AM TAMPA'S PROFILE FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS THROUGH THE BUSINESS
9:14:58AM OF BIOTECH.
9:14:59AM TO THE MOFFITT CANCER TEAM, WE ARE PROUD OF ALL YOU HAVE
9:15:02AM ACCOMPLISHED.
9:15:02AM YOU HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE A STRONG LEADER IN OUR

9:15:07AM COMMUNITY AND AN ASSET TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:15:07AM THEREFORE, IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR TO PRESENT YOU
9:15:09AM WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 6th DAY OF DECEMBER, 2018.
9:15:13AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:15AM >> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR. COX WHO WORKS IN OUR INNOVATION
9:15:22AM OFFICE.
9:15:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN.
9:15:25AM >> TO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS OF
9:15:29AM TAMPA BAY, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING US.
9:15:33AM I THINK IT WAS NOTED THE GROWTH OF OUR CONFERENCE OVER THE
9:15:37AM YEARS.
9:15:38AM AND LAST YEAR, WE HIT JUST SHY OF ABOUT 500 ATTENDEES.
9:15:43AM SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO GROW.
9:15:45AM IT IS NOT WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE
9:15:48AM SUCCESSFUL.
9:15:48AM THE BUSINESS OF BIOTECH HAS GROWN TO BE THE PREMIER BIOTECH
9:15:52AM CONFERENCE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BRINGING TOGETHER
9:15:54AM INDIVIDUALS IN ACADEMIA, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, THE BIOTECH
9:15:59AM INDUSTRY, AS WELL AS VARIOUS CITIZENS WHO MAY WANT TO ATTEND
9:16:03AM AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
9:16:04AM WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
9:16:06AM THIS YEAR, OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WILL BE DR. REID HUBER FROM
9:16:10AM THIRD ROCK VENTURES, WHO WILL DELIVER AN AMAZING SPEECH
9:16:13AM ABOUT THE GROWING BIOTECH AND CANCER INDUSTRY.
9:16:16AM ONCE AGAIN, IT'S FEBRUARY 22.

9:16:18AM WE HOPE THAT YOU ARE HERE WITH US TO SEE ANOTHER YEAR OF
9:16:22AM ADVANCING THE BIOTECH SPACE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BAY.
9:16:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
9:16:31AM I HAVE BEEN, I THINK, TO ABOUT FIVE OF THE LAST SEVEN
9:16:35AM BIOTECH CONFERENCES.
9:16:37AM AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE UNBELIEVABLE SPEAKERS AT THE BEGINNING,
9:16:41AM WHETHER THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD OR PEOPLE THAT LIKE
9:16:45AM SAM DONALDSON WHO WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT WHAT DOES BIOTECH
9:16:48AM MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
9:16:49AM OBVIOUSLY, HE IS SOMEONE THAT HAS GONE THROUGH CANCER AND
9:16:52AM KNOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE EXPANSION OF IDEAS AND HOW IT
9:17:00AM SPINS OFF TO INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES.
9:17:02AM WHEN IS THE NEXT BIOTECH CONFERENCE COMING UP?
9:17:05AM >> FEBRUARY 22.
9:17:07AM FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
9:17:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TERRIFIC.
9:17:10AM I HOPE THAT I'LL BE THERE.
9:17:11AM I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES JOIN ME.
9:17:13AM I HOPE A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA GO OUT
9:17:15AM THERE BECAUSE IT IS AN AMAZING CONFERENCE TO TALK ABOUT HOW
9:17:18AM WE CAN IMPROVE NOT ONLY HEALTH CARE BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY
9:17:21AM CREATE JOBS AND HIGH-PAYING JOBS FROM THAT SECTOR.
9:17:26AM THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
9:17:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:17:30AM I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU GUYS.

9:17:32AM I'VE BEEN TO THE LAST TWO SINCE I'VE BEEN ON TAMPA CITY
9:17:34AM COUNCIL.
9:17:35AM MOFFITT IS A MAJOR PART OF DISTRICT 7 AND WE'RE VERY PROUD
9:17:39AM TO HAVE YOU GUYS.
9:17:40AM YOU DO A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:17:41AM I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT I BELIEVE THIS SATURDAY
9:17:43AM IS MILES FOR MOFFITT.
9:17:46AM I'LL BE THERE.
9:17:46AM I WON'T BE RUNNING BUT I'LL BE SPEAKING.
9:17:49AM >> MILES FOR MOFFITT IS MOFFITT'S LARGEST GRASSROOTS EVENT.
9:17:53AM EACH YEAR, WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR THOUSAND PEOPLE COME OUT
9:17:55AM AND RUN, WALK OR JUST CONGREGATE AND CELEBRATE SURVIVING
9:18:00AM CANCER.
9:18:01AM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MOFFITT CANCER CENTER IS ALL ABOUT.
9:18:04AM WE HAVE BECOME A GREAT WORLD-RENOWNED RESOURCE FOR RESEARCH
9:18:07AM AND TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION BUT WE WANT EVERYBODY HERE IN
9:18:10AM TAMPA BAY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.
9:18:13AM WE'RE HERE FOR TAMPA CITY RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS.
9:18:15AM IF YOU'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH CANCER, IF ANYBODY IN YOUR
9:18:19AM FAMILY IS FACING A CANCER DIAGNOSIS, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.
9:18:24AM WE HAVE YOUR BACK.
9:18:24AM MILES FOR MOFFITT THIS SATURDAY AT AMALIE ARENA.
9:18:27AM COME ONE, COME ALL.
9:18:28AM IT'S A GREAT TIME AND A GREAT TIME TO CELEBRATE SURVIVORS,
9:18:31AM TOO.

9:18:34AM >>HARRY COHEN: ON A LIGHT NOTE, I SEEM TO ALWAYS MISS MILES
9:18:38AM FOR MOFFITT BUT END UP AT MARTINIS FOR MOFFITT.
9:18:41AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:18:42AM BUT I'M SURE THAT'S A WONDERFUL PROGRAM ALSO.
9:18:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
9:18:51AM WE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
9:18:54AM >> THANK YOU.
9:18:55AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:19:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NUMBER 2 IS NOT HERE TODAY.
9:19:08AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:19:09AM MR. SHELBY.
9:19:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:19:11AM GOOD MORNING.
9:19:12AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:19:14AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
9:19:18AM SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC
9:19:20AM HEARING.
9:19:21AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR A
9:19:24AM PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING
9:19:27AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:19:28AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:19:31AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS.
9:19:34AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:19:36AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS
9:19:40AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO

9:19:44AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER, BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
9:19:47AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:19:48AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:19:54AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:19:57AM THANK YOU.
9:20:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:20:02AM METESMOT.
9:20:13AM THAT'S INFORMATION IN REFERENCE TO CITY ATTORNEY ERNIE
9:20:24AM MUELLER WHO WAS ON NOVEMBER 27th, 2018 CONSPIRING WITH
9:20:39AM JUDGE ROBERT FOSTER JUNIOR TO APPARENTLY INTERFERE --
9:20:47AM ILLEGALLY INTERFERE WITH THE LAWSUIT, A CIVIL LAWSUIT THAT
9:20:51AM I'M INVOLVED IN.
9:20:54AM THAT'S A SERIOUS ALLEGATION, A VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATION.
9:20:59AM AND HE WAS DOING SO APPARENTLY ON CITY'S TIME.
9:21:08AM THAT'S A MORE SO SERIOUS ALLEGATION.
9:21:10AM ON THAT SAME DAY IS WHEN A PARKING BOOT WAS PLACED ON THE
9:21:24AM AUTOMOBILE I EXITED FROM.
9:21:28AM AUTOMOBILE NOT IN MY NAME.
9:21:30AM I'M NOT THE PROPRIETOR OF IT AND HAVE NO PREVIOUS PARKING
9:21:36AM TICKETS, NONE.
9:21:37AM BUT WHAT'S GOING ON IS, WE GET PARKING TICKETS WITH METERS
9:21:43AM THAT HAVE MONEY IN IT, AND YOU TAKE THEM DOWN TO THE PARKING
9:21:47AM DIVISION AND THEY ARE LIKE, OH, WE'RE SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
9:21:50AM IT'S A FORM OF HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION THAT THEY DO TO
9:21:57AM PUBLIC PEOPLE WHEN THEY FIND THAT WE SPEAK OUT AGAINST

9:22:00AM INJUSTICE, WHEN WE SPEAK OUT AGAINST NOT BEING INCLUDED IN
9:22:03AM THE CITY'S BUDGET, IN THE COUNTY'S BUDGET, IN SOCIETY AND
9:22:09AM OTHER PLACES OF COMFORT AND OTHER PLACES OF RESPECTABILITY.
9:22:19AM WHEN WE SPEAK OUT AGAINST GENTRIFICATION.
9:22:21AM WHEN WE SPEAK OUT AGAINST BICYCLE STOPS AND POLICE
9:22:24AM HARASSMENT.
9:22:26AM IT'S ONGOING HARASSMENT.
9:22:27AM AND IT IS SO RACIALLY DEGRADING AND OFFENSIVE BECAUSE WE AS
9:22:35AM AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT ALL OUR LIVES.
9:22:40AM IT'S LIKE BEING HUMILIATED BECAUSE YOU'RE GAY OR BEING
9:22:45AM HUMILIATED BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK OR BEING HUMILIATED BECAUSE
9:22:47AM YOU'RE JEWISH, OR BEING HUMILIATED BECAUSE YOU'RE MUSLIM.
9:22:52AM OR BEING HUMILIATED OR OSTRACIZED BECAUSE YOU ARE CHRISTIAN.
9:22:58AM AND THEY ARE DOING IT ALL ON TAXPAYERS' TIME AND TAXPAYERS'
9:23:02AM MONEY.
9:23:03AM THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THOSE
9:23:07AM SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS.
9:23:09AM THEY ARE VERY SERIOUS.
9:23:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT.
9:23:33AM >> NAME IS JOHN MALL.
9:23:37AM LIVE IT 504 WEST NORTH BAY STREET.
9:23:42AM I RECENTLY GOT A TAX BILL AND INCLUDED WITH THE TAX BILL IS
9:23:48AM SOMETHING CALLED -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COMES ON THERE OR
9:23:52AM NOT.
9:23:53AM GET TO KNOW YOUR TAX BILL AND IT HAD AN EXPLANATION ON

9:23:58AM THERE.
9:23:59AM I THOUGHT I COULD BLOW IT UP FOR YOU TO SEE IT.
9:24:02AM BUT I WAS SURPRISED TO READ THE NUMBERS ON HERE,
9:24:06AM PARTICULARLY WITH THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
9:24:11AM IF YOU LOOKED AT IT, IT'S $20 MILLION, $174,000.33.
9:24:19AM NOW, WHO IS PAY THAT KIND OF BILL?
9:24:21AM JOHN DOE -- I'M NOT JOHN DOE, I DIDN'T GET THAT BILL, BUT I
9:24:27AM COULDN'T PAY IT.
9:24:28AM HOW HIGH DO THESE THINGS HAVE TO GO BEFORE PEOPLE JUST WALK
9:24:31AM AWAY?
9:24:32AM THIS TAX ASSESSMENT I HAVE HERE, I WANT TO KNOW TO
9:24:38AM DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHAT YOU SAY IS A TAX AND AN ASSESSMENT.
9:24:43AM TO ME, THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME THING.
9:24:45AM ON THE TAX BILL, YOU SAY DOWN HERE, TAXING AUTHORITY, AND IT
9:24:52AM SAYS TAX AMOUNT.
9:24:53AM YOU'RE TREATING A USER FEE -- THE LAST TIME I WAS DOWN HERE
9:24:56AM YOU REFERRED ME TO JAN McLEAN, AND MY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF
9:25:02AM AND ALEX AWOLD HAD A MEETING AND SHE SAID IT WAS A USER FEE.
9:25:07AM IF YOU DON'T USE IT, WHICH WAS A STORMWATER CHARGE, THEN
9:25:10AM YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY.
9:25:12AM BUT DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM, THEY
9:25:16AM CALL IT A TAX OR THEY CALL IT AN ASSESSMENT.
9:25:20AM I THINK THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.
9:25:21AM I CAN'T DIRECT ANYBODY INDIVIDUALLY BUT MAYBE AS A GROUP,
9:25:29AM YOU CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO ASSESSMENTS, THE TAXES,

9:25:33AM IF THERE IS ANY, IN THE CASE OF STORMWATER, BECAUSE I HAVE
9:25:39AM THIS ONE PARTICULAR TAX I GOT HERE, YOU'RE TAXING MY
9:25:42AM DOGHOUSE BECAUSE IT HAS A ROOF.
9:25:47AM HOW FAR DO YOU GO?
9:25:48AM ARE YOU GOING TO TAX MY PING-PONG TABLE BECAUSE IT'S
9:25:51AM IMPERVIOUS?
9:25:52AM ALL MY HOUSES ARE RAISED UP.
9:25:55AM THEY CAN LIKE A POLE BARN.
9:25:57AM WATER -- TO ME, STORMWATER, THAT'S RAINWATER THAT SINKS INTO
9:26:02AM THE GROUND.
9:26:03AM I'VE CONTACTED -- WHEN I TALKED TO JAN McLEAN, THEY SAID
9:26:09AM CONTACT THE PE THAT WILL COME OUT AND VERIFY THAT NO WATER
9:26:13AM COMES OFF YOUR PROPERTY.
9:26:15AM EVERYTHING SINKS INTO THE GROUND.
9:26:17AM AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY
9:26:20AM BUT SOME HAVE COME OUT AND LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY BUT I
9:26:24AM CAN'T GET IN CONTACT ONCE THEY CALL THE CITY.
9:26:28AM I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION MAYBE FROM THE BOARD IF
9:26:32AM THEY CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN TAX AND ASSESSMENT.
9:26:35AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN.
9:26:50AM MY NAME IS JOEL BARNHAM.
9:26:53AM 4008 EAST HENRY AVENUE HERE IN TAMPA.
9:26:55AM I REPRESENT NORTHEAST COMMUNITY CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS
9:27:00AM LIVE OAK SUBDIVISION.

9:27:02AM I'M HERE WITH MY VICE PRESIDENT, MR. JOHNNY BATES.
9:27:06AM AND WE ARE HERE JUST TO LODGE AN ISSUE RELATIVE TO LACK OF
9:27:12AM SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE THAT RECEIVE THAT'S POOR
9:27:17AM AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE THAT ISSUE THE CONTRACTS.
9:27:19AM IN PARTICULAR, SOME OF THE GATEWAYS THAT COME INTO OUR
9:27:24AM COMMUNITY.
9:27:25AM ONE BEING HILLSBOROUGH 43rd PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE
9:27:29AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD THAT'S ALWAYS UNMAINTAINED
9:27:33AM THAT MAKES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK POOR.
9:27:35AM I SPOKE WITH A COUPLE OF THE COUNCILORS IN THE PAST AS WELL
9:27:39AM AS THE OTHER GATEWAY TO THE NORTH WHICH IS THE 40th STREET
9:27:43AM BRIDGE.
9:27:43AM THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE THAT COMES THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY THAT
9:27:48AM WE REALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH NOW IS 40th STREET.
9:27:51AM I WAS PUT ON THE TASK FORCE BY EX-MAYOR PAM IORIO TO HELP IT
9:27:56AM GET DESIGNED, LANDSCAPE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:28:00AM BUT THE ISSUE NOW BECOMES MAINTENANCE.
9:28:01AM WE ARE BEING TOLD NOW THAT WE ARE ONLY AUTHORIZED NINE CUTS
9:28:08AM ON THAT THOROUGHFARE PER YEAR, AND THAT, IN OUR OPINION, IS
9:28:12AM NOT ENOUGH.
9:28:14AM WE MISSED NOVEMBER'S CUT, CAME BACK, AND THEN THE ISSUE NOW
9:28:19AM BECOMES WHEN THEY DO CUT, THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE THAT
9:28:22AM SUPERVISE THE CONTRACTED CREW, AS THEY CUT ON MONDAY, I WAS
9:28:29AM THERE TO SHARE WITH THEM IT WAS A POOR CUT, TRASH IS NOT
9:28:34AM BEING PICKED UP.

9:28:35AM I'VE TAKEN PHOTOS OF IT AND SEND IT IN TO THOSE THAT I FEEL
9:28:38AM ARE REASONABLE FOR IT BUT I'M NOT GETTING ANY RESPONSE.
9:28:42AM SO MY ISSUE NOW TO THE COUNCIL IS, WHERE DO I GO IN TERMS OF
9:28:46AM BEING ABLE TO GET ANSWERS TO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
9:28:51AM CONTRACTORS.
9:28:52AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET A CONTRACTOR TO COME OUT, WELL, WHY
9:28:55AM WOULD YOU PAY HIM FOR POOR SERVICE?
9:28:57AM IT'S TOTALLY POOR SERVICE, AND WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH IT.
9:29:01AM WE DO OUR PART AS A COMMUNITY TO GET OUT WITH CREWS TO PICK
9:29:04AM UP PAPER, PICK UP TRASH, AND WE TRY TO DO OUR PART.
9:29:09AM BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS THAT WE FEEL IT IS THE
9:29:11AM OBLIGATION OF THE CITY TO MEET US HALFWAY.
9:29:13AM SO WE DO HAVE ISSUES AND WE WANT TO LAY THAT OUT BEFORE THE
9:29:17AM COUNCIL, AND WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND TRY AND
9:29:19AM GET SOME ANSWERS.
9:29:20AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:29:33AM ORLANDO, BUSINESS OWNER AT 4050 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, ALSO A
9:29:36AM RESIDENT AT 4040 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND ALSO A MEMBER
9:29:40AM OF THE NORTHEAST CRIME WATCH ASSOCIATION.
9:29:41AM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT MR. BARNHAM.
9:29:44AM HE'S CORRECT IN HIS ASSESSMENT.
9:29:45AM I'VE BEEN ON SEVERAL JOURNEYS WITH HIM PICKING UP TRASH IN
9:29:49AM THOSE CORRIDORS SEVERAL TIME.
9:29:51AM 40th STREET IS A MAIN CORRIDOR, AND IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE

9:29:53AM OTHER CORRIDORS.
9:29:54AM HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE RECORDS.
9:29:57AM HE'S E-MAILED ME SEVERAL TIMES.
9:29:59AM I'VE SENT HIM IN THE DIRECTION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER
9:30:02AM ENTITIES WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL.
9:30:04AM IT SEEMS LIKE IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS AT TIMES.
9:30:06AM LAST WEEK, HE CALLED ME AGAIN IN REFERENCE TO AN E-MAIL HE
9:30:10AM SENT ME.
9:30:11AM I RESPONDED AND SAID WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL, LET
9:30:14AM COUNCIL LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CONTRACT, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AND
9:30:16AM SO FORTH.
9:30:17AM THIS MORNING I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF MR. BARNHAM AND THE
9:30:20AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HOPING TO GET ANSWERS TO GO TO
9:30:24AM PEOPLE WHO CAN GIVE US ANSWERS.
9:30:27AM THANK YOU.
9:30:32AM >> CYNTHIA DUNCAN, WEST BARCELONA STREET.
9:30:35AM GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE COUNCIL.
9:30:37AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 95.
9:30:41AM IT'S A STAFF REPORT, SO I WON'T BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT THAT
9:30:44AM TIME, WHICH I THINK I'M GLAD SINCE IT'S 95.
9:30:47AM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT THE LETTER SUBMITTED BY
9:30:50AM TREE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, TAMPA BAY BUILDERS
9:30:51AM ASSOCIATION AND HISTORIC HYDE PARK IS OPTION 1, WHEN YOU GET
9:30:56AM THAT OPTION.
9:30:57AM THESE ARE THE CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27 THAT WILL ALLOW THE

9:31:01AM ADMINISTRATIVE SETBACK OF SETBACK REDUCTIONS TO PRESERVE
9:31:05AM GRAND OR ALMOST GRAND, GREATER THAN 24-INCH TREES.
9:31:08AM I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO REFER TO THEM AS SPECIMEN TREES.
9:31:12AM BUT THEY'VE WORKED WITH US.
9:31:13AM WE'VE SEEN THE DRAFT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED THIS AFTERNOON.
9:31:16AM AGAIN, OPTION 1 IS THE ONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT
9:31:20AM WHEN IT COMES TIME TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
9:31:22AM WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF.
9:31:25AM THEY'VE SET UP THE GET HER DONE CONFERENCE TO GET THE TREE
9:31:29AM CODE FINALIZED, SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS MONTH AT A
9:31:33AM LATER DATE AS WELL.
9:31:34AM MS. CHELSEA JOHNSON ASKED ME TO ALSO PASS ON HER
9:31:38AM APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
9:31:40AM SHE'S OVER AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION THIS MORNING.
9:31:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
9:31:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT.
9:31:53AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A WORKSHOP WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT
9:31:59AM THE MEASUREMENT OF 50 YEARS SINCE THE FAIR HOUSING ACT WAS
9:32:04AM SIGNED.
9:32:06AM WE ARE IN THAT CYCLE OF BEING ABLE TO MEASURE IN TERMS OF
9:32:12AM HAVE WE HELD TRUE TO SOME OF THE GREAT SOCIETAL PROGRAMS
9:32:17AM THAT WOULD HAVE ADVANCED US IN WAYS IN WHICH WE WOULD SEE AN
9:32:21AM END, NOT JUST TO POVERTY, BUT TO SEGREGATION.
9:32:25AM WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IN THIS CITY IS A RESEGREGATION OF
9:32:29AM AREAS IN WHICH THAT WAS PREDOMINANTLY AREAS IN WHICH THE

9:32:35AM APPLICANT COMMUNITY ONCE LIVED.
9:32:37AM AND SO SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY IT IS A GOOD THING THAT WE HAVE
9:32:41AM DISPERSED A BUNCH OF FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE
9:32:44AM COUNTY, PEOPLE THAT ONCE LIVED IN WEST TAMPA NOW LIVING OUT
9:32:47AM IN GIBSONTON, HAVING DEALT WITH THE SOCIAL CRISIS THAT THOSE
9:32:53AM PEOPLE HAD LIVED WITH WHILE THEY WERE LIVING IN WEST TAMPA,
9:32:57AM BUT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MOSTLY ALL OF WEST TAMPA AS IT
9:33:02AM RELATES TO LAND THAT WAS ONCE KNOWN AS PUBLIC HOUSING IS
9:33:05AM BEING TURNED OVER TO BIG DEVELOPMENT.
9:33:09AM AND SO PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, THIS IS THE MARKET.
9:33:12AM IT'S DEVELOPERS.
9:33:13AM NO, IT'S GOVERNMENT HAVING A HAND IN ALL OF THE DECISIONS
9:33:17AM THAT IS ENSURING THAT WE ARE BEING PUSHED OUT OF OUR
9:33:21AM COMMUNITY.
9:33:21AM EVEN WHEN THESE GENTLEMEN UP HERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR
9:33:26AM COMMUNITIES LOOK LIKE, WE HAVE A CRA BOARD THAT IS BEING
9:33:29AM DRIVEN BY, IN MY OPINION, THE DIRECTION OF POOR LEADERSHIP
9:33:33AM STAFF COMING FROM OUT OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT '09 TO '14
9:33:43AM OVER $14 MILLION HAVE BEEN SPENT ON LAND IMPROVEMENT, ROAD
9:33:46AM IMPROVEMENT, THAT WE CAN'T USE OUR RESOURCES TO LIFT OUR
9:33:51AM COMMUNITY.
9:33:52AM WHEN WE SAY, WELL, WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR FAIR HOUSING?
9:33:55AM WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR REHABBING OF HOUSING?
9:33:58AM YOU ALMOST SEE A ZERO BUDGET.
9:34:01AM THAT INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA, WHERE MOST PEOPLE WORK AT

9:34:04AM WALMART, McDONALD'S, ANY OF THE FAST-FOODRIES AROUND
9:34:10AM THERE, HOUSES ARE GOING UP AT $268,000 AND PEOPLE FEEL THAT
9:34:19AM THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:34:20AM IT'S NOT.
9:34:21AM WE ARE BEING FORCED OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE A
9:34:24AM DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT.
9:34:26AM WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT WAS THERE 50 YEARS AGO.
9:34:28AM WE HAVE A NEW BOARD NOW THAT SHOULD BE ENSURING THAT PEOPLE
9:34:32AM HAVE NOT JUST THIS THING CALLED DIVERSITY, BUT A SAFE PLACE
9:34:37AM TO LIVE.
9:34:39AM WE HAVE TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS
9:34:42AM LIVING IN UNSAFE DEVELOPMENTS, UNSAFE LIVING ENVIRONMENTS
9:34:46AM BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN ONE OF THE MOST
9:34:52AM IMPOVERISHED COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:34:55AM WE HOPE YOU TAKE ACTION BEFORE YOU LEAVE THIS COUNCIL.
9:34:58AM THANK YOU.
9:35:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:35:04AM MY NAME IS TASHA McCRAY.
9:35:06AM I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
9:35:07AM I'M HERE SPEAKING -- SEEKING VERBAL CLOSURE AS A CITIZEN AND
9:35:14AM A VICTIM OF SEXUAL BATTERY FROM A FORMER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:35:18AM SCHOOL EMPLOYEE, NOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
9:35:20AM I'VE TRIED ON EVERY LEVEL TO GET VERBAL CLOSURE WITH NO
9:35:24AM SUCCESS.
9:35:26AM AND I FEEL THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET ACKNOWLEDGMENT

9:35:28AM NEEDED TO FREELY MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE.
9:35:31AM I HAVE JUST SHARED THIS STORY WITH MY MOTHER LAST WEEK
9:35:34AM BECAUSE I HAVE TO STOP PROTECTING OTHERS AND FOCUS ON ME AND
9:35:37AM MY HEALING.
9:35:38AM TELLING HER HAS GIVEN ME SO MUCH RELIEF AND ANSWERED SO MANY
9:35:42AM QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AT WILSON JUNIOR HIGH
9:35:45AM SCHOOL THAT CHANGED ME.
9:35:47AM I HOPE THAT I AM THE ONLY GIRL THAT HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS,
9:35:53AM BUT IF I HAVEN'T, IF I'M NOT, I HOPE THAT THESE OTHER PEOPLE
9:35:57AM WILL COME OUT SO THAT THEY CAN RELEASE THE BURDEN AS I'M
9:36:00AM TRYING TO RELEASE ON MYSELF BEING HERE.
9:36:02AM I NEED TO GET MY LIFE BACK.
9:36:04AM I'VE BEEN HOLDING ON THIS FOR 38 YEARS, AND I'VE DONE
9:36:07AM EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE THIS PERSON SHOW OWNERSHIP.
9:36:13AM THE BEST THING I CAN DO, I'VE DONE EVERYTHING FROM THE
9:36:17AM POLICE TO PERSONAL EVERYTHING.
9:36:20AM I'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
9:36:22AM I'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
9:36:23AM I'M A CHILD OF GOD, AND I CAN'T FORGIVE SOMEONE WHO HASN'T
9:36:27AM ACKNOWLEDGED THE CRUEL, HARSH, AND LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE
9:36:30AM THAT LED ME INTO THE LIFE THAT I CAME INTO.
9:36:33AM I NEED THAT PERSON TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT DAY AT BEING 11
9:36:39AM YEARS OLD OR 12, CHANGED MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE AND WHAT I
9:36:43AM COULD HAVE BEEN.
9:36:44AM I WAS ACTUALLY A NORMAL OVERWEIGHT CHILD.

9:36:46AM AND AS STATED, EVERYONE WAS SHOCKED THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE BIG
9:36:53AM GIRLS.
9:36:53AM WELL, I WAS NEARLY 300 POUNDS.
9:36:55AM GIRLS, GIRLS.
9:36:57AM WHY REFERENCE ME AS A GIRL, NOT A WOMAN, BUT GIRLS.
9:37:01AM I HAVE A POLICE REPORT, A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION.
9:37:04AM AND EVERYTHING I'VE DONE HAS BEEN CONTROLLED.
9:37:07AM I SEEK NOTHING MORE THAN ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
9:37:10AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME.
9:37:14AM I'VE TRIED, AND I HOPE THAT IF I CAN JUST REACH ONE OTHER
9:37:18AM PERSON TO COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THIS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE
9:37:22AM TO SUFFER FROM THINGS THAT WERE DONE TO US AS A CHILD THAT
9:37:27AM HAS RUINED US AS ADULTS.
9:37:29AM IF OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS, IF OUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE -- THAT
9:37:33AM YOU RESPECT AND YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT AND YOU
9:37:38AM RESPECT THEM AND YOU TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DON'T
9:37:41AM ALLOW YOU TO DO IT.
9:37:44AM BEING ACCUSED OF EXTORTION WHEN YOU'RE ONLY TRYING TO GET AN
9:37:49AM ACKNOWLEDGMENT IS A VERY HURTFUL AND PAINFUL THING WHEN YOU
9:37:51AM KNOW YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG.
9:37:53AM YOU JUST WANT CLOSURE.
9:37:54AM SO BECAUSE I CAN'T ADDRESS ANYONE DIRECTLY, I DO HAVE A
9:38:00AM POLICE REPORT THAT I WILL BE LEAVING WITH THE MAYOR.
9:38:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:38:17AM MY NAME IS TIM KEEPORTS.

9:38:21AM 404 EAST IDLEWILD AVENUE, 33604.
9:38:24AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS
9:38:28AM EFFORTS DURING 2018 AND FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS PAST
9:38:31AM THURSDAY EVENING ON THE SUBJECT OF TRAFFIC CALMING AND
9:38:35AM PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:38:36AM WHILE I'M NOT SPEAKING DIRECTLY TODAY ABOUT AGENDA ITEM 94,
9:38:39AM IMPROVEMENTS TO FLORIDA AVENUE AND VIOLET STREET, MY
9:38:42AM COMMENTS THIS MORNING WERE SHAPED BY OBSERVING THE QUICK
9:38:45AM ACTION OF THIS COUNCIL AND CITY'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT
9:38:48AM WITH F.D.O.T. SUPPORT TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ADDRESSING
9:38:52AM THIS DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.
9:38:54AM THE SIMPLE IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY INSTALLED OR BENEFITING
9:38:56AM THOSE WHO DRIVE, BIKE, WALK, AND LIVE IN THAT LOCATION.
9:39:01AM THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
9:39:02AM EACH OF YOU REPRESENTS RESIDENTS WITH SIMILAR CHALLENGES
9:39:07AM THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
9:39:08AM LOCATIONS IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENTS TO UNDERPIN VISION ZERO.
9:39:13AM AND REMEMBER WHAT THAT MEANS -- ZERO TRAFFIC-RELATED DEATHS.
9:39:17AM DURING MEETINGS WITH CITY TRANSPORTATION STAFF, MULTIPLE
9:39:20AM SOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, LIKE RAISED PEDESTRIAN
9:39:23AM CROSSINGS, ROUNDABOUTS, PROTECTED BIKE LANES AND IMPROVED
9:39:27AM SIDEWALKS.
9:39:27AM SIMILAR TO COMPLETE STREETS.
9:39:30AM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES
9:39:33AM DESERVES RECOGNITION OF THEIR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD

9:39:35AM TRAFFIC-CALMING PROGRAM TEST PROJECTS.
9:39:38AM WE NEED MORE OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WITH THE
9:39:41AM APPROVAL OF THE NEW ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX
9:39:45AM ADDITION, ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS NOW GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO
9:39:48AM YOU.
9:39:49AM I AM REQUESTING COUNCIL WORK WITH THE MAYOR TO ESTABLISH A
9:39:52AM NEW CITIZENS TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD TO ADDRESS
9:39:56AM TRAFFIC CALMING.
9:39:57AM THE BOARD CAN BE MODELED LIKE THE WESTSHORE RESIDENTIAL
9:40:01AM NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
9:40:03AM RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS, ENSURING ALL QUADRANTS OF THE CITY
9:40:08AM ARE REPRESENTED AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE EQUALLY BALANCED.
9:40:11AM THE BOARD WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE INCLUSION OF A TPD TRAFFIC
9:40:15AM OFFICER AND A CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO GUIDE AND QUALIFY
9:40:19AM THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
9:40:21AM IF APPROPRIATE, THIS BOARD COULD REPORT TO MS. DUNCAN.
9:40:24AM AS TAMPA CONTINUES TO ENJOY A GROWTH RATE IN A TOP TEN
9:40:29AM NATIONALLY, WE MUST RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR INCREASED CITIZEN
9:40:32AM INVOLVEMENT AND SUPPORT OF OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS AND STAFF.
9:40:37AM WE HAVE A STACK OF PROBLEMS AND WE HAVE A STACK OF SOLUTIONS
9:40:41AM PREPARED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND
9:40:43AM F.D.O.T.
9:40:44AM NOW IS THE TIME WITH FUNDING ARRIVING SOON TO MATCH THESE
9:40:48AM UP.
9:40:48AM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR CITY NEED SOLUTIONS TO THESE

9:40:56AM URGENT MATTERS.
9:40:58AM >> MR. KEEPORTS, I'LL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
9:41:03AM DURING NEW BUSINESS I'LL BRING SOMETHING UP REGARDING THE
9:41:05AM POSSIBILITY OF THAT COMMITTEE YOU DISCUSSED.
9:41:07AM >> THANK YOU.
9:41:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:41:14AM STEPHEN LYTLE, 322 WEST GIDDENS AVENUE.
9:41:17AM I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC
9:41:20AM ASSOCIATION.
9:41:21AM I WANT TO ECHO TIM'S STATEMENTS IN SAYING THANK YOU FOR
9:41:22AM ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU LAST WEEK.
9:41:24AM ALSO WANT TO THANK JEAN DUNCAN AS WELL AS THE FLORIDA
9:41:29AM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, SPECIFICALLY STEVEN BENSON,
9:41:30AM WHO HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN AND HONEST AND TRANSPARENT WITH US
9:41:32AM ABOUT THE CHANGES TAKING PLACE OVER THE LAST WEEK ON OUR
9:41:35AM HIGHLAND AVENUE, VIOLET AND OSBORNE INTERSECTION.
9:41:39AM THE SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN
9:41:41AM A VOCAL ADVOCATE OF BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR
9:41:43AM GOVERNMENT PARTNERS TO PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THE ISSUES
9:41:46AM IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY.
9:41:47AM AND FOR MANY YEARS, OUR TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY
9:41:49AM CONCERNS HAVE PLAGUED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS A RESULT,
9:41:52AM WE'VE HAD A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE HELPED OUT.
9:41:54AM WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT STILL HAS SPEED
9:41:58AM BUMPS ALONG NORTH BOULEVARD AND THEN WITH COUNCILMAN

9:42:00AM SUAREZ'S HELP, WE'RE THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF
9:42:02AM TAMPA TO INSTALL THE STREET MURAL FOR TRAFFIC-CALMING
9:42:05AM MEASURES.
9:42:06AM ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T ON THE STREETS, WE WOULD HOPE THAT IT HAS
9:42:09AM WORKED IN THE STREETS IT'S ON.
9:42:10AM HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN SHARING CONCERNS
9:42:11AM ABOUT HIGHLAND AVENUE, THOUGH, WHICH IS SEASONABLE A
9:42:13AM THREE-LANE HIGHWAY THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:42:16AM AS A RESULT, WE'VE SEEN TRAFFIC STUDIES.
9:42:18AM WE'VE SEEN TRAFFIC COUNTS.
9:42:19AM AND WE'VE SEEN SOME MITIGATION TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY, BUT
9:42:22AM MOST OFTEN WE'VE BEEN HEARING PROPOSED SOLUTIONS THAT ARE
9:42:25AM PIGGYBACKED WITH TWO CAVEATS.
9:42:28AM ONE IS FUNDING AND THE OTHER ONE IS TIME.
9:42:30AM IT'S CLEARLY BASED ON THE QUICK ACTION THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER
9:42:32AM THE LAST WEEK, BUT THE REAL LIMITING FACTOR WAS
9:42:35AM PRIORITIZATION, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN A TON OF THAT SUCCESS IN
9:42:40AM THE LAST WEEK ADDRESSING THE ISSUES.
9:42:41AM NOW WE ALSO HAVE FUNDING FROM F.D.O.T. TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES
9:42:44AM AND CURRENTLY SEE FUNDING FROM TRANSPORTATION WE BELIEVE AS
9:42:47AM WELL.
9:42:48AM WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS TIME.
9:42:49AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING ACTION AND TAKING A
9:42:51AM MORE STRATEGIC AND COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH BEFORE ANOTHER
9:42:54AM LIFE IS LOST.

9:42:54AM I THINK EACH COUNCIL MEMBER UP THERE, WHETHER IT'S
9:42:58AM COUNCILMAN VIERA IN NEW TAMPA WHERE THEY HAD THE TRAFFIC
9:43:01AM MEETING REGARDING THE BUS SITUATION, WHETHER IT'S COUNCILMAN
9:43:04AM COHEN, BAYSHORE, COUNCILMAN REDDICK WHERE WE HAD A
9:43:08AM GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS HIT I BELIEVE ON 30th STREET OR 40th
9:43:10AM STREET.
9:43:11AM IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, WE'RE SEEING ISSUES WITH
9:43:13AM THE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.
9:43:15AM SO WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO ECHO THE STATEMENTS THAT JUST
9:43:17AM LIKE TIM SAID, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF
9:43:20AM COMMITTEE THAT ADDRESSES THESE CONCERNS, BECAUSE AT A
9:43:22AM GRASSROOTS LEVEL, NOBODY IS GOING TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING
9:43:26AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAN THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
9:43:28AM WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
9:43:29AM SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR HELP ON
9:43:32AM OSBORNE AVENUE AND RECLASSIFYING THAT AS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD
9:43:34AM COLLECTOR.
9:43:35AM THE SPEED LIMIT IS TOO FAST.
9:43:37AM WE NEED TO DROP THAT.
9:43:38AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:43:40AM AND ALSO ADDING HIGHLAND AVENUE TO COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT.
9:43:42AM THIS IS A VISION OF WHAT WE'VE HAD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND
9:43:47AM COMING FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
9:43:48AM BUT THESE ISSUES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE NOT
9:43:50AM SINGULARLY OURS.

9:43:51AM IT IS TIME WE DEVELOP A STRATEGY THAT USES THE DATA
9:43:54AM AVAILABLE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
9:43:56AM AROUND CRASH DATA AND THE INFORMATION FROM TPD TO
9:43:58AM PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES
9:44:01AM IMPACTING THE DAILY LIVES OF NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS IN OUR
9:44:03AM COMMUNITY BUT THE REST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:44:04AM THANKS, GUYS.
9:44:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING THAT
9:44:16AM WAS SAID BY MR. LYTLE, WHICH IS YESTERDAY I WAS HAVING A
9:44:17AM CONVERSATION WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WAS JUST ELECTED TO
9:44:20AM STATE HOUSE, A COLLEAGUE OF MINE.
9:44:22AM AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE OUR AGE, BECAUSE I
9:44:24AM THINK WE'RE ABOUT THE SAME AGE, THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENT
9:44:29AM EXPECTATION IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN TERMS OF
9:44:32AM RESPONSIVENESS BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS, THE INTERNET,
9:44:35AM E-MAIL, ET CETERA, THAT PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY BE MILLENNIALS
9:44:39AM OR I GUESS I'M GENERATION X, WHATEVER MY GENERATION WAS,
9:44:43AM THAT WE ARE MORE RESPONSIVE AROUND TO WE ARE MORE, I GUESS,
9:44:49AM IF YOU WILL INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC BECAUSE OF THE
9:44:53AM TECHNOLOGY WE GREW UP WITH.
9:44:55AM THOSE ARE WHERE THINGS LIKE TOWN HALLS AND BEING INTERACTIVE
9:44:57AM ON THINGS LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA COME FROM.
9:44:59AM AND I THINK A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH
9:45:02AM THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE MORE AND MORE EXPECT PARTICULARLY WITH
9:45:06AM PEOPLE GETTING ELECTED TO PUBLIC OFFICE WHO ARE 35, 40,

9:45:11AM ET CETERA, YEARS OLD, FOR REAL RESPONSIVE ELECTED
9:45:15AM LEADERSHIP.
9:45:15AM AND I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION GIVEN THE
9:45:19AM TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE GROWING UP WITH IN OUR TIME.
9:45:21AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:45:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:45:26AM SUSAN JOHNSON VALEZ, 607 WEST BAY STREET.
9:45:29AM I'M COMING BEFORE YOU AGAIN TODAY FOR AN ITEM THAT I HAD
9:45:33AM HOPED TO MAKE IT ON YOUR ADDENDUM BUT I UNDERSTAND DID NOT
9:45:38AM MAKE IT ON.
9:45:39AM PETITION FOR REVIEW FILE E-2018-8.
9:45:42AM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF A LETTER I SUBMITTED YESTERDAY.
9:45:45AM YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY RESCHEDULED THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW
9:45:48AM HEARING TO DECEMBER 20th AT 10:30.
9:45:50AM BUT WITHIN THE LAST DAY OR TWO, WE DISCOVERED AN ISSUE WITH
9:45:53AM THE NOTICE.
9:45:54AM AND SO WE'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THAT.
9:45:57AM ASKING THAT IT BE RESCHEDULED TO JANUARY 10th, 2019 AT
9:46:00AM 10:30 A.M., YOUR FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF THE NEW
9:46:04AM YEAR.
9:46:05AM I'M COMING BEFORE YOU BECAUSE THE NOTICE DEADLINE FOR THAT
9:46:10AM IS FASTLY APPROACHING AND WOULD PASS BEFORE YOUR NEXT
9:46:14AM MEETING.
9:46:14AM AGAIN, JUST ASKING -- I HAVE THE ORIGINAL --
9:46:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.

9:46:19AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:46:20AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:46:22AM OPPOSED.
9:46:24AM OKAY.
9:46:24AM >> THANK YOU.
9:46:25AM HAVE A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY.
9:46:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
9:46:32AM TAYLOR RAU, WEST SAN JUAN STREET.
9:46:36AM LAST WEEK, I NOTICED THAT MY VISION HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT
9:46:41AM BLURRY AND I DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO GO GET MY EYES CHECKED
9:46:45AM AND SEE WHAT THE DOCTOR SAYS ABOUT MY VISION AND SHOULD I
9:46:48AM NEED HELP, SHOULD I NEED GLASSES OR SOME OTHER TOOL TO HELP
9:46:52AM ME SEE BETTER.
9:46:53AM I'LL USE THOSE TOOLS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE THE
9:46:56AM BEAUTY OF LIFE IN MORE CLARITY.
9:46:59AM I'M HERE TODAY TO BRING UP A STREET THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO
9:47:04AM OUR COMMUNITY'S HEART.
9:47:05AM BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD.
9:47:06AM AND KNOWING THAT WE NOW HAVE A LOT MORE TOOLS IN OUR TOOL
9:47:13AM BASKET FOR FUNDING FOR SIDEWALK AND STREET SAFETY
9:47:16AM IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO RELOOK
9:47:19AM AT THE MAYOR'S REJECTION OF HIS OWN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION
9:47:22AM TO MAKE BAY TO BAY A SAFER STREET FOR ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
9:47:27AM BAY TO BAY IS A ROAD THAT HAS FOUR SCHOOLS ON EITHER SIDE OF
9:47:30AM IT THAT REQUIRE CHILDREN TO WALK TO SCHOOL IN THE DARK OR IN

9:47:34AM THE LIGHT.
9:47:34AM IT'S A ROAD THAT HAS MANY LOCAL RETAILERS AND BUSINESSES
9:47:37AM THAT PEOPLE WANT TO WALK TO.
9:47:39AM IT HAS MULTIPLE HART ROUTE STOPS WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK TO
9:47:43AM THE BUS.
9:47:43AM I WALK TO THE BUS AND RIDE THE BUS TO MY DOWNTOWN OFFICE
9:47:46AM WEEKLY.
9:47:46AM IT HAS MULTIPLE CHURCHES.
9:47:49AM IT HAS A LOT OF OTHER FEATURES, NOT TO MENTION ITS
9:47:52AM CONNECTION DIRECTLY TO BAYSHORE, ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
9:47:55AM LINEAR PARKS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO WALK AND BIKE AND EXERCISE
9:47:59AM ON.
9:47:59AM THIS IS A TIME TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND RELOOK AT THIS ROAD
9:48:03AM AS A QUICK WIN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY HOW
9:48:07AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN WORK TOGETHER
9:48:09AM AND UTILIZE THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION FUNDING TO MAKE THIS
9:48:15AM ROAD A TRULY WALKABLE, COMPLETE STREET NEIGHBORHOOD
9:48:17AM ENVIRONMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE AND NOT A DANGEROUS HIGHWAY
9:48:19AM THAT'S GOING TO BE REPAVED, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SPEED EVEN
9:48:22AM MORE WHILE KIDS WAIT FOR THE SCHOOL BUS OR WALK TO SCHOOL.
9:48:27AM THANK YOU.
9:48:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL
9:48:33AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS?
9:48:34AM ALL RIGHT.
9:48:37AM DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION

9:48:41AM OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
9:48:42AM SEEING NONE, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
9:48:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.
9:48:54AM LaCHONE DOCK, PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
9:48:56AM ITEM 3 IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
9:48:59AM THIS IS A PART OF THE JULY 2018 CYCLE.
9:49:02AM THIS IS RELATING TO TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT PARKING.
9:49:06AM AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS BEFORE YOU FOR FIRST READING
9:49:10AM AND VOTE AT SECOND READING IS WHEN I WILL DO THE FULL
9:49:13AM PRESENTATION FOR THE AMENDMENT REQUEST.
9:49:14AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:49:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:49:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS EXACTLY?
9:49:23AM I DON'T HAVE IT IN MINE.
9:49:24AM THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
9:49:24AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: OKAY.
9:49:25AM I APOLOGIZE.
9:49:26AM YES, THE ASK WOULD ADD A REQUIREMENT OR AN OPTION FOR A
9:49:33AM PARKING PLAN TO BE PROVIDED.
9:49:35AM FOR A TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED PARKING
9:49:39AM OFFSETS TO ACCOUNT FOR YOUR REQUIRED PARKING.
9:49:43AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE --
9:49:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS.
9:49:51AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IF YOU CAME IN FOR A TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT
9:49:53AM CURRENTLY TODAY, WHATEVER YOUR REQUIRED PARKING IS YOU WOULD

9:49:57AM HAVE TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACE PER
9:50:00AM TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
9:50:02AM THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE PARKING THAT
9:50:05AM IS REQUIRED, SAY, FOR IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT
9:50:09AM WORK THERE THAT MAYBE ARE DROPPED OFF AT THE SITE, THEY
9:50:13AM WOULD NOT STAY AT THAT SITE.
9:50:15AM THEY DON'T DRIVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL VEHICLES AND PARK, YOU
9:50:18AM COULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT UP TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
9:50:21AM YOU CAN ALSO ACCOUNT FOR RESIDENTS THAT --
9:50:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER IT NOW.
9:50:25AM I REMEMBER A DISCUSSION WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK NOW.
9:50:27AM AN EVENT WHERE TRAFFIC IS NOT GENERATED -- BROUGHT TO THE
9:50:32AM AREA, AND YOU DON'T NEED THE PARKING.
9:50:33AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
9:50:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:50:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:50:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 3?
9:50:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY PLEASURE, MR. CHAIR.
9:50:45AM I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
9:50:48AM -- STRIKE THAT, FOR FIRST READING AND ADOPTION.
9:50:50AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA --
9:50:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S A TYPO.
9:50:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION AND
9:51:06AM ADOPTION --
9:51:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ERROR.

9:51:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: STRIKE THE STRIKE.
9:51:10AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FLORIDA RELATING TO
9:51:13AM TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT PARKING MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF
9:51:15AM TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
9:51:18AM DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-132, REGULATIONS, GOVERNING
9:51:23AM INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES; AMENDING SECTION 27-282.16,
9:51:27AM TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT; AMENDING SECTION 27-283.7, NUMBER
9:51:31AM OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR
9:51:36AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
9:51:39AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:51:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:51:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
9:51:44AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:51:46AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:51:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:51:50AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:51:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:51:58AM WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:51:59AM PUBLIC SAFETY, MR. MIRANDA.
9:52:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:52:02AM MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 8.
9:52:04AM >> SECOND.
9:52:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:52:05AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:52:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

9:52:08AM OPPOSED?
9:52:10AM PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:52:11AM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:52:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:52:13AM I MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 12.
9:52:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:52:17AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:52:18AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:52:21AM PUBLIC WORKS, MS. CAPIN.
9:52:23AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MOVE ITEMS 13 THROUGH
9:52:27AM 31.
9:52:29AM >> SECOND.
9:52:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN, SECONDED BY
9:52:32AM MR. COHEN, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
9:52:34AM FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. COHEN.
9:52:40AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:52:42AM I MOVE ITEMS 32 THROUGH 38.
9:52:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN, SECONDED BY
9:52:47AM MR. MIRANDA, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:52:50AM OPPOSED?
9:52:51AM GO TO COMMITTEE BUILDING, ZONING --
9:52:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 39 THROUGH 53.
9:53:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
9:53:03AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:53:04AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.

9:53:06AM OPPOSED?
9:53:06AM ALL RIGHT.
9:53:07AM GO TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, MR. SUAREZ.
9:53:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:53:11AM I MOVE ITEMS 54 THROUGH 63.
9:53:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:53:15AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:53:17AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:53:18AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:53:21AM OPPOSED.
9:53:21AM ALL RIGHT.
9:53:23AM WE GOT ITEMS BEING SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
9:53:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:53:30AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:53:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME.
9:53:35AM THAT'S RIGHT.
9:53:36AM >> 64.
9:53:37AM REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED.
9:53:39AM THE OTHER THREE ARE SET.
9:53:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:53:46AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:53:47AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:53:49AM OPPOSED?
9:53:50AM NOW WE GO TO 9:30s.
9:53:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

9:54:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:54:06AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:54:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:54:08AM OPPOSED?
9:54:09AM OKAY.
9:54:10AM ITEM NUMBER 68.
9:54:12AM ITEM NUMBER 68.
9:54:21AM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 68?
9:54:29AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 68?
9:54:38AM ALL RIGHT.
9:54:39AM I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:54:42AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:54:43AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:54:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
9:54:51AM THAT'S TO CLOSE.
9:54:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THAT'S TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
9:54:58AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, FINE.
9:54:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ 68?
9:55:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS THE ONE THAT HAD ONE SENTENCE
9:55:02AM THAT WE DELETED, IF I RECALL.
9:55:04AM MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 68, FILE 2018-8 CHAPTER 16,
9:55:10AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
9:55:13AM AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING REVISIONS
9:55:16AM TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 16, PARKS
9:55:19AM AND RECREATION; AMENDING SECTION 16-43, PROHIBITED

9:55:23AM ACTIVITIES; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES
9:55:26AM IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING
9:55:29AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:55:30AM >> SECOND.
9:55:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:55:32AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:55:34AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:55:41AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:55:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 69.
9:55:46AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 69?
9:55:50AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 69?
9:56:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE CLOSE, I VOTED
9:56:02AM NOT FIRST TIME, AND I WILL DO THE SAME THING THIS TIME.
9:56:06AM I'M NOT TRYING TO SWAY ANYBODY'S VOTE, BUT THIS IS A
9:56:10AM CONTRACT THAT'S GIVEN OUT TO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN THIS
9:56:13AM BUSINESS, PROHIBITS, IF I REMEMBER READING THE ORDINANCE.
9:56:16AM YOU CANNOT COME AND RIDE YOUR SCOOTER JUST LIKE THEY ARE.
9:56:19AM YOU HAVE TO RENT A SCOOTER FROM THEM AT SO MUCH A DAY AND SO
9:56:22AM MUCH A MILE, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CHARGE YOU.
9:56:24AM BUT IT'S THE SAME THING IF YOU HAVE A BICYCLE.
9:56:27AM CERTAINLY THERE IS A BICYCLE RACK BUT YOU CAN BRING YOUR OWN
9:56:29AM BICYCLE DOWNTOWN AND RIDE ANYWHERE YOU WANT. IT PROHIBITS
9:56:32AM THE USE OF YOURSELF BUYING ONE OF THESE MOTOR SCOOTERS AS
9:56:36AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO DO IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD
9:56:38AM AND DRIVING IT IN THE AREA.

9:56:40AM PROHIBITED FROM DRIVING IT IN CERTAIN AREAS AND SPECIFIED IN
9:56:43AM THE ORDINANCE WHERE THEY ARE AT.
9:56:45AM CERTAIN AREA AND EVENTS IN THE CITY.
9:56:47AM THEREFORE, I JUST THINK IT'S TOO CLOSE OF AN AREA TO DO
9:56:51AM SOMETHING WITH.
9:56:53AM STATE OF FLORIDA HAS A LAW PROHIBITING YOU FROM HAVING A
9:56:56AM MOTOR SCOOTER ON THE HIGHWAY, HOWEVER WE'RE GOING TO PUT
9:56:58AM THEM ON THE SIDEWALKS.
9:56:59AM THAT'S WHAT MY OBJECTION WAS IN THE FIRST READING OF THIS
9:57:07AM ORDINANCE.
9:57:08AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
9:57:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:57:10AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:57:11AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:57:12AM MS. CAPIN.
9:57:13AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NO.
9:57:16AM I'M GOING TO -- I'D RATHER NOT THIS TIME.
9:57:20AM I DID THE FIRST.
9:57:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:57:23AM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
9:57:26AM ADOPTION.
9:57:26AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE
9:57:29AM CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 25, TRANSPORTATION,
9:57:31AM TO CREATE GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO SHARED
9:57:34AM MOBILITY DEVICES INCLUDING SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTERS, AND TO

9:57:38AM CREATE A SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER PILOT PROGRAM; AMENDING
9:57:41AM SECTION 25-4 TO ADD DEFINITIONS RELATED TO SHARED MOBILITY
9:57:45AM DEVICES INCLUDING SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTERS; AMENDING
9:57:48AM SECTION 25-173 TO ESTABLISH A SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER PILOT
9:57:53AM PROGRAM IN THE CITY; ADDING SECTION 25-173.1 PROVIDING FOR
9:57:57AM PROVISIONS RELATED TO SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER RESTRICTIONS
9:58:00AM AND PENALTIES; ADDING SECTION 25-173.2, PROVIDING FOR
9:58:04AM PROVISIONS RELATED TO SHARED MOBILITY DEVICE OPERATION
9:58:07AM RESTRICTIONS AND PENALTIES; AMENDING CHAPTER 23.5,
9:58:14AM SUPPLEMENTAL ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES.
9:58:15AM SECTION 23.5-5, SCHEDULE OF VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES
9:58:19AM SUBSECTIONS A AND D TO ADD PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF
9:58:23AM SECTION 25-173.1 AND 25-173.2; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR
9:58:28AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
9:58:31AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:58:33AM >> SECOND.
9:58:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:58:36AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:58:37AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:58:44AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND CAPIN VOTING
9:58:46AM NO.
9:58:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO TO ITEM NUMBER 70 NOW.
9:58:52AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 70?
9:59:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:59:02AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC

9:59:04AM PRESERVATION MANAGER, HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 70, WHICH IS A
9:59:09AM HISTORIC PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY
9:59:12AM LOCATED AT 2008 NORTH 19th STREET.
9:59:15AM HISTORICALLY KNOWN AS THE OLIVA TOBACCO BUILDING.
9:59:19AM SOME PHOTOS ON THE ELMO, PLEASE.
9:59:25AM THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING WOOD CIGAR FACTORIES IN
9:59:30AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:59:30AM THERE ARE THREE THAT REMAIN.
9:59:32AM THIS IS THE ONLY HISTORIC CIGAR FACTORY CONSTRUCTED FROM
9:59:37AM LUMBER THAT STILL REMAINS WITHIN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC
9:59:41AM DISTRICT.
9:59:41AM IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1890.
9:59:43AM IT WAS A TWO-AND-A-HALF STORY WOOD-FRAME VERNACULAR BUILDING
9:59:46AM WITH A BRICK PIER FOUNDATION.
9:59:49AM IT WAS ORIGINALLY USED BY THE AR'MON AND BROTHERS CIGAR
9:59:54AM FACTORY.
9:59:54AM THE TAMPA BOARD OF TRADE SUCCESSFULLY THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY
9:59:59AM HAD LURED COMPANIES FROM NEW YORK THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS OF
10:00:04AM TWO DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES, EITHER THE YBOR CITY IMPROVEMENT
10:00:08AM COMPANY OR THE McFARLAND INVESTMENT COMPANY.
10:00:09AM AR'MON WAS THE LAST CIGAR COMPANY THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE
10:00:15AM CITY OF TAMPA UNDER THOSE PARTICULAR GROUPS.
10:00:17AM THIS IS A SHOT OF HOW THE FACTORY LOOKED PRIOR TO
10:00:22AM REHABILITATION IN 2014.
10:00:26AM YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORIC PHOTOS ARE VERY VALUABLE WHEN WE

10:00:29AM RUN ACROSS A PROPERTY LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S BEEN CONCEALED
10:00:34AM WITH INAPPROPRIATE SIDING.
10:00:37AM ONCE THE SIDING WAS REMOVED, THE ORIGINAL LUMBER WAS
10:00:43AM EXPOSED.
10:00:44AM NEW LUMBER WAS ADDED IN TO RESTORE THE ORIGINAL SKIN OF THE
10:00:49AM BUILDING.
10:00:50AM YOU CAN SEE THE WINDOW OPENINGS WERE STILL THERE.
10:00:53AM ALL CIGAR FACTORIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA YOU'LL SEE ARE
10:00:55AM ORIENTED WITH EAST-WEST ORIENTATION WITH THE SIDES ALLOWING
10:01:00AM FOR MAXIMUM LIGHT AND VENTILATION.
10:01:02AM AND, OBVIOUSLY, THE WINDOWS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THAT
10:01:08AM FORM AND FUNCTION.
10:01:10AM THIS IS HOW THE BUILDING LOOKS TODAY.
10:01:18AM RESTORED VERY MUCH LIKE YOU SEE IN THE HISTORIC PHOTO.
10:01:22AM THE DORMERS WERE RESTORED, THE WINDOWS WERE REPLACED WITH
10:01:25AM WINDOWS THAT MATCHED THE ORIGINAL.
10:01:30AM THIS WAS THE BEFORE.
10:01:30AM AND CURRENTLY.
10:01:35AM THE BUILDING IS NOW BEING USED AS APARTMENTS.
10:01:45AM IT'S A GREAT RESTORATION.
10:01:47AM I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT ASSET TO YBOR CITY AND IT THE
10:01:51AM CITY AS A WHOLE.
10:01:52AM HERE ARE INTERIOR SHOTS WITH THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION,
10:01:54AM THE INTERIOR IS REVIEWED TO MAINTAIN THE ORIGINAL
10:01:57AM CHARACTERISTICS.

10:01:57AM YOU SEE THE ORIGINAL STAIRCASE WAS RETAINED AND RESTORED.
10:02:03AM THE STRUCTURAL SYSTEM IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE APPROPRIATE
10:02:09AM RESTORATION OF A HISTORIC BUILDING.
10:02:11AM MAINTAINING THE EXPOSED COLUMNS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
10:02:14AM RECOMMENDED AND ADHERED TO.
10:02:16AM AND JUST SOME SHOTS OF THE APARTMENTS.
10:02:21AM LITTLE TIGHT TO KIND OF TAKE PHOTOS OF, BUT YOU GET THE FEEL
10:02:25AM FOR IT.
10:02:26AM THEY ARE PERIOD-APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED.
10:02:29AM THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HISTORIC
10:02:32AM PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX ORDINANCE THAT'S SUBMITTED AND
10:02:34AM STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
10:02:36AM THANK YOU.
10:02:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
10:02:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB ON RESTORING
10:02:40AM THIS BUILDING.
10:02:41AM I'VE DRIVEN BY IT FOR YEARS.
10:02:43AM I REMEMBER WELL WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE.
10:02:46AM IT IS COMPLETELY NIGHT AND DAY.
10:02:48AM I HOPE THAT THIS ACTS AS INSPIRATION FOR THE RESTORATION OF
10:02:53AM THE ONES IN WEST TAMPA, ESPECIALLY ALONG HOWARD AVENUE, THE
10:02:55AM BIG BRICK ONES THAT ARE VERY RECOGNIZABLE.
10:02:57AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT THAT COMES THAT SOMEBODY MAY
10:03:00AM DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR BETTER.
10:03:04AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THESE PROGRAMS ARE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL

10:03:07AM INTO SOME OF THE DECISION MAKING THAT GOES INTO WHETHER TO
10:03:10AM RESTORE OR LEAVE THE PROPERTIES AS-IS.
10:03:12AM VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR PROGRAM.
10:03:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
10:03:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
10:03:16AM LEANING TOWER OF PISA, WE USED TO HAVE THE LEANING CIGAR
10:03:22AM FACTORY IN YBOR CITY.
10:03:22AM IT WAS LEANING BADLY.
10:03:24AM WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE IS AN AMAZING JOB.
10:03:26AM THEY REALLY SHOULD BE CREDITED WITH IT.
10:03:33AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: FANTASTIC JOB.
10:03:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
10:03:36AM ITEM NUMBER 70?
10:03:38AM MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:03:39AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
10:03:41AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:03:43AM MS. CAPIN.
10:03:44AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:03:45AM PLEASURE.
10:03:46AM FILE NUMBER E2018-8, CHAPTER 27, AN ORDINANCE BEING
10:03:51AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:03:54AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
10:03:57AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:04:00AM RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
10:04:03AM YBOR OLIVA, LLC LOCATED AT 2008 NORTH 19th STREET, TAMPA,

10:04:11AM FLORIDA, IN THE YBOR CITY NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:04:15AM DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS; PROVIDING FOR NOTICE
10:04:19AM TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING
10:04:22AM FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10:04:25AM CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:04:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
10:04:32AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:33AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:04:40AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:04:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:04:44AM ITEM NUMBER 71.
10:04:48AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
10:04:51AM AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER.
10:04:53AM IT'S RARE THAT WE HAVE TWO EXTRAORDINARY PROJECTS ON THE
10:04:56AM SAME AGENDA FOR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM BUT TODAY IS THAT DAY.
10:05:00AM THE CURRENT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE REVIEWING IS THE TECO
10:05:04AM TROLLEY BARN, MORE CONTEMPORARILY KNOWN AS THE ARMATURE
10:05:08AM WORKS.
10:05:08AM IT IS LOCATED 1910 NORTH OLA AVENUE.
10:05:11AM IT IS A DESIGNATED LANDMARK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
10:05:14AM REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT KNOWN AS THE HEIGHTS IS CURRENTLY
10:05:18AM UNDERWAY.
10:05:19AM ON YOUR MONITOR, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN HISTORIC PHOTO FROM 1910
10:05:24AM OF THE TROLLEY BARN BUILDING.
10:05:25AM IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1911.

10:05:27AM IT'S A BRICK VERNACULAR BUILDING, MASONRY IN FRAME
10:05:30AM CONSTRUCTION WITH A FLAT BUILT-UP ROOF.
10:05:32AM THE BRICK WALLS ARE DOUBLE THICK.
10:05:37AM AND CORBELLED BRICK CORNERS ALONG WITH THE CONCRETE BASE.
10:05:40AM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DOUBLE-SASHED WINDOWS.
10:05:42AM HISTORICALLY ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, A NUMBER OF BAYS.
10:05:45AM THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL CAR BARN FOR THE TROLLEY SYSTEM IN THE
10:05:51AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:05:51AM IT WAS CENTRALLY LOCATED BETWEEN WEST TAMPA, HYDE PARK, YBOR
10:05:55AM CITY, AND, OF COURSE, WITHIN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:05:57AM THERE WERE MILES OF TROLLEY TRACK THAT SERVICED THE CITY.
10:06:03AM BY 1929 THERE WAS OVER 11 MILLION PASSENGER RIDES ON THE
10:06:06AM SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:06:08AM ANOTHER PHOTO FROM 1946 SHOWING THE BUILDING IN THE REAR
10:06:11AM AND, OF COURSE, ONE OF THE TROLLEY CARS IN THE FOREGROUND.
10:06:15AM ACTUALLY, THE BUILDING WENT INTO AN ALTERNATIVE USE AFTER
10:06:17AM THE TROLLEY SYSTEM WAS ELIMINATED FOLLOWING WORLD WAR II, IT
10:06:22AM BECAME AN INDUSTRIAL USE BUILDING CALLED THE TAMPA ARMATURE
10:06:27AM WORKS.
10:06:27AM WITH THAT, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF MORE CONCENTRATION ON THE
10:06:31AM INTERNAL CONFIGURATION THAN THE EXTERNAL.
10:06:34AM YOU SEE THAT THE WINDOWS BEGAN TO BE BOARDED UP, OPENINGS
10:06:37AM BEGAN TO BE ENCLOSED AND BECAME MUCH MORE OF A UTILITARIAN
10:06:42AM BUILDING.
10:06:42AM IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.

10:06:44AM THIS IS ITS PURPOSE WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, SO MAINTAINING
10:06:48AM THAT INDUSTRIAL FEEL IS VERY IMPORTANT DURING A RESTORATION
10:06:52AM PROJECT.
10:06:52AM I THINK MOST EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR NOW WITH THE HEIGHTS
10:06:58AM PROJECT AND THE PUBLIC MARKET THAT'S OPENED IN THE LOCATION
10:07:01AM OF THE ARMATURE WORKS BUILDING.
10:07:04AM THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF ATTENTION GIVEN TO THE DETAILING BY
10:07:07AM THE OWNERS.
10:07:08AM ALL THE SKY LIGHTS WERE RESTORED, RECONSTRUCTED, REALLY, TO
10:07:13AM MIMIC THE ORIGINAL.
10:07:14AM AS I SAID, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CHANGES HISTORICALLY IN
10:07:18AM THE INDUSTRIAL USE THAT ELIMINATED WINDOWS.
10:07:25AM THE WINDOWS WERE EITHER RESTORED OR RECONSTRUCTED TO
10:07:28AM ORIGINAL.
10:07:29AM THEY ARE ALL WOOD WINDOWS WITH THE HISTORIC WAVY GLASS.
10:07:34AM THROUGH THE RESTORATION, THE GHOST SIGN WAS RETAINED.
10:07:41AM THE NUMBERS YOU SEE NUMBERED THE BAYS AS THEY WOULD BE
10:07:45AM SLOTTED FOR THE TROLLEYS WHEN THEY RETURNED IN THE EVENING
10:07:49AM FOR SERVICE.
10:07:49AM THE BRICK WAS REPOINTED.
10:07:53AM DOORS WERE REPLICATED THROUGH HISTORIC PHOTOS.
10:07:56AM MOVING TO THE INTERIOR, THERE WERE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT TO BE
10:08:01AM TWO ORIGINAL FIREPLACES.
10:08:03AM A THIRD ONE WAS UNCOVERED THROUGH THEIR DEMOLITION.
10:08:06AM ALL THREE FIREPLACES WERE RETAINED AND RESTORED.

10:08:10AM HISTORIC SPACES SUCH AS THE THEATER WERE RETAINED AND
10:08:19AM RESTORED.
10:08:21AM THESE ARE USED FOR BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUNCTIONS NOW.
10:08:24AM AND THEN IN ORDER TO KEEP THE INDUSTRIAL REFERENCES OF THE
10:08:28AM BUILDING, THE DEVELOPER WAS VERY CONSCIOUS IN RETAINING SOME
10:08:33AM OF THOSE COMPONENTS SUCH AS THE I-BEAMS AND HOISTS THAT WERE
10:08:38AM USED THROUGH THE ERA.
10:08:41AM THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, THEY ARE NO LONGER FUNCTIONAL ARE
10:08:45AM RETAINED AND ARE IN PLACE WHEN YOU GO VISIT SO YOU GATE FEEL
10:08:49AM FOR THE INDUSTRIAL REFERENCES OF THE USE OF THE BUILDING.
10:08:53AM ONCE AGAIN, VERY IMPRESSIVE RESTORATION OF A BUILDING BUT
10:08:59AM ALSO A FANTASTIC USE AS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE HEIGHTS
10:09:03AM PROJECT.
10:09:03AM THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA'S HISTORIC
10:09:06AM PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION ORDINANCE AS SUBMITTED.
10:09:10AM ONCE AGAIN, THE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
10:09:12AM THANK YOU.
10:09:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY ARE NO WORDS FOR
10:09:16AM THIS PROJECT.
10:09:17AM THIS WAS A MASSIVE, MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
10:09:18AM I REMEMBER WHEN THE MAYOR GAVE THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS
10:09:22AM IN 2014 AND EVERYONE WAS IN THE BUILDING, I WAS A CANDIDATE
10:09:26AM THEN, NOT ELECTED.
10:09:27AM BUT AFTER EVERYBODY LEFT FOR SOME REASON I GOT TO HANG OUT

10:09:32AM WITH THE MAYOR FOR A FEW MINUTES.
10:09:34AM WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
10:09:35AM AND HE SAID, WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
10:09:38AM WE WALKED THROUGH WHAT WAS WATER WORKS PARK UNDER
10:09:41AM CONSTRUCTION.
10:09:41AM AND THERE IS A PHOTO OF US SOMEWHERE I HAVE.
10:09:45AM HE'S SAYING, IMAGINE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
10:09:47AM AND NOW IT'S COMING TO FRUITION.
10:09:51AM THE RIVERWALK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
10:09:52AM I REMEMBER HOW IT WAS DEAD UP IN THAT AREA.
10:09:55AM ULELE CAME IN, WATER WORKS AND THEN ARMATURE WORKS.
10:09:58AM IT'S NONSTOP.
10:09:59AM THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THIS ATTRACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
10:10:05AM IT'S A HUGE RESURGENCE AND THEY HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
10:10:10AM I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS HERE.
10:10:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
10:10:15AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 71?
10:10:20AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:10:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:10:23AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
10:10:24AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:10:26AM OPPOSED?
10:10:27AM MR. COHEN, WOULD YOU READ 71?
10:10:29AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU, I WILL.
10:10:31AM I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID ABOUT THIS

10:10:34AM BEING A TERRIFIC PROJECT.
10:10:35AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PROPOSED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:10:40AM ADOPTION.
10:10:40AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
10:10:44AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:10:46AM RENOVATION, OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
10:10:49AM RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS HOLDINGS II, LLC, LOCATED AT 1910 NORTH
10:10:54AM OLA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS;
10:10:58AM PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
10:11:01AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING
10:11:03AM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR AN
10:11:08AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:11:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:11:09AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:11:10AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:11:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:11:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:11:20AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 72.
10:11:26AM >> SWEARING IN.
10:11:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:11:28AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 72 THROUGH 82, PLEASE
10:11:34AM STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:11:37AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:11:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:11:45AM ITEM 72.

10:11:45AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:11:47AM ABBYE FEELEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:11:49AM ITEM NUMBER 72, 73, 75, 76, 78 ALL REQUIRED CERTIFIED SITE
10:11:57AM PLANS.
10:11:57AM THOSE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE
10:12:02AM CLERK.
10:12:02AM I ALSO HAVE COPIES OF THOSE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ANY OF
10:12:06AM THEM.
10:12:06AM I'LL ADDRESS ITEM 74 WHEN WE COME TO THAT ITEM AS WELL.
10:12:10AM THANK YOU.
10:12:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PETITIONER?
10:12:12AM ITEM NUMBER 72.
10:12:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:12:19AM FRED, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM.
10:12:24AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY REGARDING
10:12:28AM THIS PROPOSAL FOR REZONING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
10:12:32AM COMMERCIAL PLAZA DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
10:12:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:12:35AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:12:37AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 72?
10:12:44AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:12:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:12:47AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:12:50AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:12:51AM OKAY.

10:12:52AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:12:53AM WOULD YOU READ ITEM 72?
10:12:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:12:57AM I PRESENT ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:12:59AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:13:01AM 5242 AND 5250 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:13:05AM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:13:08AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, AND
10:13:11AM RM-16, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:13:15AM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, STRIP SHOPPING CENTER WITH ALL CI
10:13:18AM USES; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:13:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:13:23AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:13:24AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:13:30AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
10:13:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:13:34AM ITEM NUMBER 73.
10:13:35AM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 73?
10:13:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:13:48AM FRANCISCO OCASIO, 4521 WEST IDLEWILD.
10:13:54AM I'M THE APPLICANT.
10:13:55AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
10:13:58AM YOUR APPROVAL.
10:13:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:14:00AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON 73?

10:14:05AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:14:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:14:07AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:14:09AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:14:11AM OPPOSED?
10:14:12AM MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ 73?
10:14:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 73, REZ 18-67, AN ORDINANCE BEING
10:14:23AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:14:25AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:14:27AM 7100 AND 7102 NORTH ROME AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:14:32AM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:14:34AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL,
10:14:37AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
10:14:40AM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:14:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:14:43AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:14:47AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.
10:14:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 74.
10:14:54AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:14:55AM ABBYE FEELEY LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:14:58AM ON ITEM NUMBER 74, THIS IS A REZONING AT 4400, 4438, 4446,
10:15:03AM 4450 AND 4452 NORTH ARMENIA.
10:15:07AM THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF ARMENIA AND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
10:15:12AM BOULEVARD AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
10:15:13AM YOU HAD APPROVED THIS PD FOR A BANK AND OFFICE USES BACK IN

10:15:20AM NOVEMBER, AND THE SECOND READING WOULD BE TODAY.
10:15:22AM IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, WE HAD A DISCUSSION
10:15:25AM WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT PUTTING A TEMPORARY MODULAR BANK ON
10:15:29AM THE PROPERTY WHILE THE NEW BANK IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
10:15:33AM THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PD THE WAY THAT IT WAS
10:15:36AM PRESENTED TO YOU.
10:15:38AM SO DURING THIS TIME WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOME NOTATIONS THAT
10:15:43AM COULD GO ONTO THE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE MODULAR
10:15:47AM TO GO ON THERE DURING THAT TIME TO KEEP OPERATION OF THE
10:15:50AM BANK AND THEN CONDITIONS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THAT MODULAR AND
10:15:55AM COMPLIANCE WITH THE PD PRIOR TO FINAL CO OF THE PROPERTY.
10:15:58AM WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU THIS MORNING IS A NEW REVISION SHEET.
10:16:04AM IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO OCCUR,
10:16:07AM YOU WOULD GO BACK ON FIRST READING THIS MORNING WITH THE NEW
10:16:10AM REVISION SHEET AND THEN READ THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING
10:16:14AM AND THEN HAVE A SUBSEQUENT SECOND READING.
10:16:16AM I'LL GO AHEAD AND PASS THAT OUT NOW.
10:16:18AM TRUETT GARDNER IS THE APPLICANT ON THIS.
10:16:21AM HE IS HERE THIS MORNING AS WELL TO ADDRESS YOU CONCERNING
10:16:23AM THIS MATTER.
10:16:24AM IF IT'S NOT YOUR PLEASURE, I DO HAVE THE CERTIFIED PLANS AS
10:16:27AM YOU APPROVED FOR THE FIRST NIGHT IN NOVEMBER.
10:16:35AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:16:37AM ABBYE SAID IT VERY WELL.
10:16:39AM THE BANK CURRENTLY EXISTS.

10:16:42AM WHAT THEY DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE FIRST READING WAS
10:16:46AM WHAT TO HAPPEN OR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ONCE THE EXISTING
10:16:49AM BUILDING IS DEMOLISHED AND THEY ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION
10:16:51AM WAITING FOR THE NEW BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
10:16:53AM AND SO WHAT THIS REVISION DOES IS TAKES THAT PERIOD OF TIME
10:16:57AM INTO ACCOUNT.
10:16:58AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:17:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER? WHAT IS
10:17:06AM THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL?
10:17:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HAVE A QUESTION.
10:17:11AM I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE REVISION SHEET.
10:17:12AM IF I COULD ASK MS. FEELEY TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
10:17:15AM THE ISSUE IS, I DON'T LIKE DOING THESE THINGS ON THE FLY.
10:17:22AM THERE'S NO TIME FRAME IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MODULAR -- HOW
10:17:25AM LONG THE MODULAR BANK IS GOING TO BE THERE.
10:17:27AM AT LEAST I DON'T SEE IT.
10:17:28AM AM I MISSING SOMETHING?
10:17:30AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
10:17:31AM WELL, THEY CANNOT HAVE IT UNTIL THEY PULL VERTICAL
10:17:38AM CONSTRUCTION FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
10:17:39AM THEY CAN'T PUT IT OUT THERE UNLESS THEY HAVE PERMITS TO
10:17:44AM CONSTRUCT THE NEW BUILDING.
10:17:45AM THAT'S CONDITION ONE.
10:17:46AM IT SAYS THE TEMPORARY BANK CANNOT BE INSTALLED UNTIL
10:17:49AM CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE SUBMITTED FOR VERTICAL

10:17:51AM CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BANK.
10:17:52AM AND THEN IT NEEDS TO MEET SETBACKS IS OUR SECOND CONDITION.
10:17:57AM AND THEN THE THIRD, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PERMITTED
10:18:00AM ITSELF UNDER A SEPARATE PERMIT FROM THE MAIN BUILDING, AND
10:18:03AM THEN LASTLY, THE REMOVAL SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
10:18:06AM PROPERTY OWNER AND SHALL OCCUR PRIOR TO RECEIVING A
10:18:09AM PERMANENT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
10:18:11AM I DID CHECK WITH MR. JENNINGS, I HAD HIM LOOK AT THIS FROM A
10:18:16AM BUILDING PERMIT PERSPECTIVE.
10:18:18AM YOU CAN GET A TEMPORARY CO FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO 90 DAYS.
10:18:24AM I TRIED BACKING IN THE TIMING BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO
10:18:28AM COMPLY WITH THE PD AND THE PARKING, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO
10:18:30AM HAVE TO BE REMOVED BEFORE THEY GET FINAL CERTIFICATE ON THE
10:18:34AM MAIN BUILDING OR THEY WILL NOT BE IN ZONING COMPLIANCE.
10:18:38AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE PERMANENCY OF
10:18:40AM THE ORDINANCE ITSELF VERSUS THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THE
10:18:42AM BUILDING IS THE CONFLICT, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING,
10:18:47AM WHICH IS THAT THING WILL BE GONE, BUT DO WE HAVE TO THEN
10:18:51AM CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE AFTERWARDS BECAUSE THE TEMPORARY
10:18:53AM BUILDING IS GONE?
10:18:55AM BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS ARE NO LONGER THERE, IF THEY BUILD
10:18:58AM THE BUILDING, AND IF YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING, NOW WE'RE
10:19:01AM PUTTING AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT HAS THIS REQUIREMENT FOR
10:19:04AM A TEMPORARY BUILDING, IT BECOMES MOOT AFTER THE FACT WHEN
10:19:08AM THE CO IS TAKEN OVER FOR THE NEW BANK.

10:19:12AM IS THERE ANY KIND OF -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT STAYS ON THE
10:19:15AM BOOKS IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
10:19:16AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT STAYS ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT -- IT'S GOING
10:19:20AM ON THE SITE PLAN, NOT INTO THE ORDINANCE.
10:19:22AM BUT THERE ARE OTHER PDs THAT I'VE HAD INTERIM TYPE USES
10:19:26AM AND ONES --
10:19:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:19:31AM IT'S MORE OF A PROCEDURAL THING.
10:19:32AM WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT SITE PLAN CONTROLLED, IT IS ABOUT
10:19:35AM PERMANENCY OF THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.
10:19:39AM THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO FIGURE OUT BASED ON THIS REVISION
10:19:41AM SHEET.
10:19:41AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DIDN'T WANT TO
10:19:44AM CHANGE THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, THAT WE DID IT THROUGH NOTATION
10:19:46AM TO ALLOW IT FOR THAT PERIOD AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS IT AT
10:19:53AM THE TIME OF FRUITION.
10:19:54AM SUAREZ THANK YOU.
10:19:55AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:19:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:19:58AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
10:20:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GO BACK TO FIRST READING.
10:20:08AM >> THE THOUGHT WAS, WHAT WE -- TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH
10:20:12AM ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:20:13AM THE THOUGHT WAS TO GO BACK IMMEDIATELY TO FIRST READING
10:20:15AM TODAY, AND THEN ASSUMING IT'S YOUR PLEASURE, WE WOULD

10:20:19AM PROCEED TO SECOND READING SUBSEQUENTLY.
10:20:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:20:22AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON 74 BY MOVING
10:20:39AM THIS BACK TO FIRST READING?
10:20:42AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:20:43AM >> SECOND.
10:20:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:20:45AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:20:48AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:20:49AM OPPOSED?
10:20:51AM MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU TAKE 74, READ AND -- FIRST READING.
10:20:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
10:20:58AM I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
10:21:03AM AND -- OR FIRST READING -- PARDON ME -- AND ADOPTION.
10:21:08AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:21:10AM 4400, 4438, 4446, 4450, AND 4452 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IN THE
10:21:19AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:21:21AM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
10:21:24AM DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BANK; BANK, DRIVE-IN,
10:21:29AM OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL; STRIP COMMERCIAL CENTER
10:21:32AM WITH CG USES; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:21:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND FOR FIRST READING.
10:21:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
10:21:38AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:21:39AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

10:21:41AM OPPOSED?
10:21:42AM OKAY.
10:21:42AM >>THE CLERK: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:21:45AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON JANUARY 10th, 2019
10:21:51AM AT 9:30 A.M.
10:21:55AM >> THANKS FOR ACCOMMODATING US.
10:21:57AM SORRY ABOUT THE CHANGE ON THE FLY.
10:21:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO TO ITEM NUMBER 75.
10:22:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:22:08AM MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK, SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA FLORIDA.
10:22:14AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, HIGHWOODS PROPERTIES.
10:22:18AM WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:22:20AM APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
10:22:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:22:30AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:22:31AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 75.
10:22:36AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:22:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:22:38AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:22:40AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:22:41AM ALL RIGHT, MS. CAPIN.
10:22:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:22:46AM FILE REZ 18-84, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
10:22:52AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:22:55AM VICINITY OF 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

10:22:58AM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:23:01AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:23:05AM OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:23:08AM OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL, HOTEL AND
10:23:11AM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:23:16AM >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CAPIN, SECONDED BY
10:23:21AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:23:22AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:23:24AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND MANISCALCO
10:23:27AM BEING ABSENT.
10:23:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 76.
10:23:31AM WHO IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 76?
10:23:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:23:44AM MY NAME IS PHILIP WITH CAMPO ENGINEERING, REPRESENTING THE
10:23:48AM APPLICANT, SOUTH AVENUE.
10:23:49AM I'M HERE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND RESPECTFULLY
10:23:52AM REQUEST APPROVAL.
10:23:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
10:23:56AM ANYONE FROM STAFF ON ITEM 76?
10:23:58AM OKAY.
10:24:00AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:24:00AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 76?
10:24:05AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:24:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:24:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.

10:24:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:12AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:13AM OKAY.
10:24:14AM I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN COHEN, YOU ARE NEXT.
10:24:18AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:24:19AM I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
10:24:23AM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 510
10:24:25AM SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
10:24:28AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:24:31AM CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO PD PLANNED
10:24:35AM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY; PROVIDING AN
10:24:38AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:24:39AM >> SECOND.
10:24:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:24:41AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:24:43AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:24:52AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND MANISCALCO
10:24:55AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:24:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE NOW ITEM 77.
10:25:00AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 77?
10:25:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:25:10AM MY NAME IS NASR.
10:25:13AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING MY FATHER AS THE APPLICANT FOR THE
10:25:17AM FOUR PROPERTIES ON EAST 10th AND 11th AVENUE.
10:25:23AM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE REZONING

10:25:28AM CLASSIFICATION, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND
10:25:32AM COMMENTS.
10:25:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:25:35AM OKAY.
10:25:36AM ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF FOR ITEM 77?
10:25:40AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 77?
10:25:44AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:25:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
10:25:47AM MIRANDA.
10:25:48AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
10:25:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:51AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:25:51AM OKAY.
10:25:52AM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM 77?
10:25:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:25:56AM PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
10:25:58AM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3916,
10:26:01AM 3918 AND 3924 EAST 10th AVENUE AND 3921 EAST 11th AVENUE
10:26:07AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:26:09AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION,
10:26:12AM CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE,
10:26:15AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:26:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
10:26:20AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:21AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:26:27AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND MANISCALCO
10:26:30AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:26:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 78.
10:26:34AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 78?
10:26:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI.
10:26:41AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER.
10:26:42AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
10:26:44AM THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CORRECTED AND CERTIFIED BY THE STAFF
10:26:49AM AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:26:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:26:54AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 78?
10:26:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:27:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:03AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
10:27:06AM ANYONE IN FAVOR?
10:27:08AM ANYONE OPPOSED?
10:27:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE FILE NUMBER 78, REZ 18-95,
10:27:15AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
10:27:17AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:27:19AM 6718 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:27:23AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:27:25AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD,
10:27:28AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND
10:27:30AM PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY; PROVIDING AN
10:27:33AM EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:27:34AM >> SECOND.
10:27:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:27:41AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:43AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND MANISCALCO
10:27:46AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:27:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 79.
10:27:51AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 79?
10:28:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE COUNCIL.
10:28:03AM ALEXANDER PITOS, PETITIONER FOR THE REZONE APPLICATION OF
10:28:07AM THIS REZ 18-98.
10:28:12AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND SEEK YOUR APPROVAL.
10:28:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
10:28:17AM OKAY.
10:28:17AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:28:18AM ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEM NUMBER 79?
10:28:21AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:28:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:28:25AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE.
10:28:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:29AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:31AM COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM 79?
10:28:34AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:28:35AM THANK YOU.
10:28:36AM ITEM 79, FILE REZ 18-98, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

10:28:41AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:28:42AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:28:45AM 2504 NORTH BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:28:49AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:28:51AM CLASSIFICATIONS PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SEMI DETACHED,
10:28:55AM SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING, TO RM-16, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY;
10:28:58AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:29:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CAPIN.
10:29:08AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:29:09AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:11AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND MANISCALCO
10:29:13AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:29:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 80.
10:29:18AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 80?
10:29:23AM >> PAUL CHAPMAN.
10:29:24AM I'M PETITIONER FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE REZONED.
10:29:24AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:29:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:29:29AM OKAY.
10:29:30AM ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 80?
10:29:33AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:29:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
10:29:36AM MIRANDA.
10:29:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
10:29:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:29:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:42AM COUNCILMAN COHEN, SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM 80?
10:29:45AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:29:47AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
10:29:50AM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 8506 NORTH 9th STREET IN THE
10:29:54AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:29:56AM SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS CI,
10:29:59AM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, TO RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY;
10:30:02AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:30:05AM >> SECOND.
10:30:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN, A SECOND
10:30:08AM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:09AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:30:15AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND MANISCALCO
10:30:17AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:30:20AM >>FRANK REDDICT: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 81.
10:30:22AM IF ANYONE IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 81.
10:30:27AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
10:30:30AM MIGHT HAVE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:30:32AM >> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO THE
10:30:36AM APPLICANT FOR ITEM 81?
10:30:38AM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ON ITEM
10:30:41AM NUMBER 81?
10:30:41AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:30:43AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

10:30:43AM >> SECOND.
10:30:44AM >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:47AM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
10:30:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:30:51AM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, WOULD YOU TAKE THAT?
10:30:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
10:30:56AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:30:59AM VICINITY OF 6008 SOUTH MAIN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:31:03AM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:31:05AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
10:31:08AM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING
10:31:12AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:31:12AM >> SECOND.
10:31:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:31:27AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:31:38AM >> ITEM 82.
10:31:40AM >> BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE TO
10:31:43AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:31:44AM >> 401 EAST JACKSON STREET ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER.
10:31:50AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:31:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:31:55AM ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:31:56AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 82?
10:31:59AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:32:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.

10:32:04AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:32:06AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:32:07AM OPPOSED?
10:32:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:32:15AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, VACATING, CLOSING,
10:32:18AM DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A PORTION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY, CERTAIN
10:32:22AM RIGHT-OF-WAY, AIRSPACE, OVER THAT PORTION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:32:26AM ABOVE CHANNELSIDE DRIVE, 13th STREET BY PLAT, LYING
10:32:31AM SOUTH OF EAST WHITING STREET IN YBOR CHANNEL, A SUBDIVISION
10:32:35AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME
10:32:38AM BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO
10:32:41AM CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS MORE
10:32:44AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:32:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:32:48AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:32:49AM >>HARRY COHEN: OH, THERE WE GO.
10:32:59AM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:33:05AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:33:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT. WE GO TO 10:30.
10:33:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN 83 TO 88.
10:33:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
10:33:17AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:33:17AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:33:19AM YES, MA'AM.
10:33:22AM >> BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

10:33:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 83
10:33:32AM THROUGH 88, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN.
10:33:37AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:33:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:33:45AM >> BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:33:48AM VAC 18-24, IS A REQUEST BY THE CITY OF TAMPA TO VACATE
10:33:55AM ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF TYLER AND CASS STREET FOR A
10:34:02AM DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR THE RESIDENCES AT STRAZ.
10:34:04AM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD SHOWING THE LOCATION.
10:34:04AM THE ADDITIONAL AREAS ARE OUTLINED IN YELLOW, AND IT'S IN
10:34:10AM ADDITION TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY VACATED IN 2013.
10:34:14AM THIS AREA WAS VACATED HERE FOR THE FUTURE PROJECT, AND WE
10:34:17AM ARE ASKING FOR THIS ADDITIONAL PART OF TYLER STREET AND THIS
10:34:21AM PART OF CASS.
10:34:24AM THERE'S NO WORK AT THIS TIME SO THIS IS JUST TYLER STREET
10:34:31AM LOOKING WEST.
10:34:32AM NORTH SIDE OF CASS STREET LOOKING WEST.
10:34:34AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
10:34:36AM THERE ARE SOME EASEMENT RESERVATIONS AND CONDITIONS THERE.
10:34:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
10:34:43AM THE APPLICANT?
10:34:47AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: WE'RE THE APPLICANT.
10:34:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OH, THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT?
10:34:51AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.
10:34:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

10:34:54AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON 83?
10:34:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:34:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:35:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:35:05AM LAUREN SHEPHERD.
10:35:06AM 6901 EBB TIDE AVENUE IN APOLLO BEACH.
10:35:11AM ALSO THE CHIEF OPERATING CENTER AT THE STRAZ CENTER.
10:35:13AM I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT.
10:35:17AM YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT, AS WE'VE BEEN
10:35:21AM DISCUSSING IT SINCE 2012 WITH THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, AND
10:35:26AM NOW THERE IS A SECOND DEVELOPER INVOLVED.
10:35:28AM AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS.
10:35:34AM WITH THIS PARTICULAR STREET ALIGNMENT, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF
10:35:36AM THE STREET REALIGNMENT AND THE VACATING OF THE PROPERTIES
10:35:40AM NECESSARY TO CREATE THE STREET ALIGNMENT.
10:35:42AM IN FACT, THE STREET ALIGNMENT WAS A RESULT OF THE STRAZ
10:35:49AM CENTER ESTABLISHING A BETTER CIRCULATORY CONDITION AT THE
10:35:55AM STRAZ CENTER FOR BOTH VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN INVOLVEMENT.
10:36:00AM AFTER THAT WAS PRESENTED, A LAND PLOT EMERGED AND WITHOUT
10:36:04AM GOING INTO ALL THE DETAILS, IT BECAME A DEVELOPABLE PLOT OF
10:36:07AM LAND AND NOW THERE IS A DEVELOPER THAT HAS A PURCHASE AND
10:36:10AM SALE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO BUILD A RESIDENTIAL TOWER
10:36:14AM THERE.
10:36:15AM WE HAVE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER, REVIEWED THE PLANS --
10:36:21AM SEVERAL SETS OF PLANS OVER THE YEARS.

10:36:23AM AND MOST RECENTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE REVIEWED
10:36:26AM THE MOST CURRENT SET OF PLANS AND WE DO HAVE ON RECORD SOME
10:36:33AM QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE PLANS BOTH FROM A VEHICULAR AND
10:36:35AM PEDESTRIAN INTERFACE WITH REGARDS TO THE ACTIVITIES AT THE
10:36:40AM STRAZ, WHICH WE ATTRACT AT LEAST 600,000 PEOPLE A YEAR
10:36:44AM COMING AND GOING.
10:36:46AM AND WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE PROJECT BE EXECUTED IN A MANNER
10:36:50AM THAT ALLOWS THIS SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL INSTITUTION IN TAMPA
10:36:55AM TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION BOTH DURING CONSTRUCTION AND, OF
10:37:00AM COURSE, AFTERWARDS.
10:37:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:37:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
10:37:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:37:04AM THANK YOU.
10:37:05AM IN 2013, I LEFT MY HUSBAND IN THE HOSPITAL TO COME IN AND
10:37:12AM VOTE ON THIS, AND I VOTED NO.
10:37:14AM BECAUSE I FELT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THIS LAND.
10:37:19AM I STILL FEEL THAT WAY.
10:37:25AM I'M GLAD YOU CAME FORWARD TO TELL US ABOUT THE SUPPORT FOR
10:37:32AM THE VACATING, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
10:37:37AM I VOTED NO WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS TRANSFERRED.
10:37:40AM I ASKED ABOUT IT.
10:37:41AM I ASKED HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PAID TO THE CITY.
10:37:45AM I DIDN'T GET ANY ANSWERS.
10:37:47AM I DIDN'T GET IF WE WERE EVER PAID.

10:37:50AM IF THE STRAZ CENTER EVER GOT THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS
10:37:53AM PROMISED TO THEM FROM THE DEVELOPER.
10:37:55AM I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT.
10:37:57AM NOW, AGAIN, I VOTED NO THEN.
10:38:02AM I WILL SUPPORT THIS VACATING BECAUSE THE STRAZ CENTER
10:38:06AM SUPPORTS IT.
10:38:06AM THE DEVELOPMENT IS OUTRAGEOUS, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY
10:38:13AM IT'S THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA THAT I EVER
10:38:15AM VOTED NO, AND I CONTINUE TO FEEL THAT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE
10:38:20AM USE OF THIS LAND.
10:38:22AM I JUST WANTED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, REMIND PEOPLE.
10:38:25AM I LEFT MY HUSBAND AT THE HOSPITAL TO COME IN AND VOTE ON
10:38:29AM THIS AND WENT BACK.
10:38:30AM THANK YOU.
10:38:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
10:38:36AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 83?
10:38:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE VOTE, I GOT
10:38:43AM CONFLICTING INFORMATION FROM THE GENTLEMAN.
10:38:46AM THEY WERE FOR THE CLOSING OF THE STREET BUT THEY HAD
10:38:48AM RESERVATIONS ABOUT -- DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS
10:38:52AM PARTICULAR PARCEL OF PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DOING TODAY?
10:38:55AM >> THE MATTER BEFORE YOU TODAY IS STRICTLY ON THE STREETS.
10:38:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
10:38:59AM >> WE ARE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT A RECOMMENDATION ON THE
10:39:01AM REALIGNMENT OF THE STREETS.

10:39:02AM WE SUPPORT THE REALIGNMENT OF THE STREETS.
10:39:08AM WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE TURNING PERMISSIONS
10:39:12AM THAT ARE IN THE DRAWING.
10:39:13AM WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PEDESTRIANS GETTING FROM THE POE
10:39:19AM GARAGE TO THE STRAZ CENTER UNDER COVER.
10:39:21AM WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE.
10:39:22AM THOSE ARE ALL DOCUMENTED AND PRESENTED TO THE DEVELOPER AS
10:39:25AM WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:26AM BUT WE DO SUPPORT THE REALIGNMENT OF THE STREETS.
10:39:30AM THAT'S WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
10:39:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TODAY IS JUST THE REALIGNMENT OF THE
10:39:34AM STREETS.
10:39:36AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
10:39:37AM >> THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, YES.
10:39:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
10:39:43AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:39:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:39:46AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:39:48AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:39:50AM [NO AUDIO]
10:40:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- IN RIVERFRONT SUBDIVISION EAST, A
10:40:19AM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, HILLSBOROUGH
10:40:22AM COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
10:40:25AM SECTION 1, THEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENTS,
10:40:27AM RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, RESTRICTIONS AND MORE

10:40:30AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:40:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:40:34AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:40:35AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:40:37AM OPPOSED?
10:40:39AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
10:40:42AM TO BE HAD ON JANUARY 10th, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:40:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 84.
10:40:52AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: VAC 18-25 IS A REQUEST TO VACATE AN ALLEY
10:40:56AM LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA.
10:40:57AM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
10:40:59AM THE ALLEY IS -- SOUTH OF 28th, NORTH OF 26th AVENUES AND
10:41:07AM RUNS BETWEEN 51st STREET AND PHILLIPS STREET.
10:41:09AM THE ALLEY IS IN YELLOW.
10:41:11AM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.
10:41:13AM THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING NORTH ON 26th AVENUE.
10:41:19AM YOU CAN SEE IT'S OVERGROWN.
10:41:21AM AND THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING SOUTH ON 28th AVENUE.
10:41:25AM THERE IS A UTILITY POLE.
10:41:26AM SO THERE'S NO ACCESS.
10:41:28AM AND THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING WEST FROM
10:41:31AM PHILLIPS STREET.
10:41:32AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION.
10:41:33AM THERE'S NO UTILITIES OR ANY USE OF THE ALLEY.
10:41:35AM THERE ARE NO EASEMENT RESERVATIONS REQUIRED.

10:41:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:41:42AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM UNTIL 84?
10:41:45AM DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
10:41:53AM >> THIS IS THE PETITIONER.
10:41:54AM >> I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 3424 PHILLIPS STREET.
10:42:03AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:42:06AM >> TAKE CARE OF THE JUNGLE FOR US.
10:42:10AM >> I WILL.
10:42:11AM THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
10:42:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 84 FROM THE
10:42:15AM PUBLIC?
10:42:16AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:42:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:42:19AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:42:21AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:42:22AM OPPOSED?
10:42:24AM MS. CAPIN.
10:42:25AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:42:26AM FILE VAC 18-25, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:42:38AM CONSIDERATION.
10:42:38AM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
10:42:41AM ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF
10:42:44AM EAST 28th AVENUE, NORTH OF EAST 26th AVENUE, EAST OF
10:42:47AM NORTH 51st STREET AND WEST OF PHILLIPS STREET, IN GRANT
10:42:51AM PARK SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

10:42:54AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
10:42:57AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
10:43:01AM CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
10:43:04AM HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:43:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
10:43:08AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:43:09AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:43:10AM OPPOSED?
10:43:12AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:43:14AM JANUARY 10th, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M. AND SUAREZ WAS ABSENT AT
10:43:21AM VOTE.
10:43:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 85.
10:43:28AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:43:30AM NUMBER 85 IS THE FIRST OF FOUR REVIEW HEARING.
10:43:33AM THIS PARTICULAR REVIEW HEARING IS FOR DENIAL OF A SPECIAL
10:43:36AM USE PERMIT.
10:43:37AM IT WAS DENIED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE IT NEEDED
10:43:39AM WAIVERS AND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR CANNOT GRANT THOSE
10:43:42AM WAIVERS.
10:43:42AM THIS IS NOT A VARIANCE SO THERE'S NO HARDSHIP REVIEW.
10:43:45AM THE ONLY QUESTION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS IF YOU GRANT THE
10:43:49AM WAIVERS IS THE PETITION STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL
10:43:52AM STANDARDS?
10:43:52AM THE GENERAL STANDARDS ARE CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
10:43:56AM I'LL PASS OUT TWO SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO

10:43:59AM CONSIDER.
10:44:08AM >> GLORIA MOREDA, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:12AM I WAS NOT IN THE ROOM WHEN THE SWEARING IN WAS DONE.
10:44:15AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:44:18AM >> I DO.
10:44:20AM GLORIA MOREDA, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:22AM THIS IS SPECIAL USE PETITION 18-38.
10:44:26AM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 215 NORTH STERLING AVENUE.
10:44:31AM THE REQUEST IS FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
10:44:34AM THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS
10:44:38AM APPROXIMATELY 700 SQUARE FEET.
10:44:40AM THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THE UNIT TO BE 600 SQUARE FEET.
10:44:44AM THERE IS ON THE SITE PLAN AS WELL THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT
10:44:52AM MEET MAIN STRUCTURE SETBACK, GIVEN THE SIZE OF ACCESSORY
10:44:57AM STRUCTURES.
10:44:58AM THE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE A -- REAR YARD SETBACK.
10:45:04AM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON STERLING, ACROSS FROM OFFICE
10:45:08AM DEPOT, IF YOU KNOW, JUST NORTH OF KENNEDY.
10:45:11AM I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HOUSE HERE.
10:45:17AM YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM
10:45:28AM OFFICE DEPOT.
10:45:31AM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
10:45:33AM IT SHOWS THE HOUSE WITH THE EXISTING GARAGE, AND THEN THE
10:45:38AM PROPOSED STRUCTURE IN THE BACK.
10:45:39AM THE APPLICANT CAN DO THEIR PRESENTATION.

10:45:50AM >>HARRY COHEN: IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY ARE REALLY ASKING
10:45:53AM FOR HERE AN ADDITIONAL 97.35 SQUARE FEET?
10:45:56AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: THAT AND THE FACT THAT THE STRUCTURE DOES
10:45:58AM NOT MEET THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
10:45:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
10:46:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:46:02AM THE APPLICANT?
10:46:04AM >> KRISTINE DEBERRY.
10:46:06AM I AM THE AGENT FOR THE HOMEOWNER AND THE PARENTS, BUT I DO
10:46:10AM HAVE BRIAN AND ROBERT AND CATHERINE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS
10:46:18AM YOU MAY HAVE.
10:46:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU DON'T WANT TO ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU
10:46:21AM WANT TO DO?
10:46:22AM >> THE HILLS WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A MOTHER-IN-LAW HOME IN THE
10:46:25AM BACK, A SPECIAL USE.
10:46:26AM BOTH OF THE PARENTS ARE NOT DISABLED, BUT THEY HAVE HEALTH
10:46:33AM ISSUES, AND THE FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM CLOSE
10:46:37AM TOGETHER WITHOUT LIVING IN THEIR ACTUAL HOME.
10:46:40AM THERE WAS A BUILDING IN THE BACKYARD ALREADY, AND THAT'S
10:46:43AM WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND REBUILD THIS
10:46:47AM STRUCTURE.
10:46:47AM IT HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN YEARS AGO, BUT THERE IS AN EXISTING
10:46:52AM BACK WALL THERE.
10:46:54AM PARENTS JUST WANT TO BE CLOSE TO THE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AND
10:47:01AM BE ABLE TO HELP EACH OTHER.

10:47:03AM SON WANTS TO HELP THE PARENTS AND THE PARENTS WANT TO BE
10:47:05AM THERE FOR THEIR KIDS.
10:47:06AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND I'M
10:47:09AM WONDERING, MS. MOREDA OR SOMEONE, WHY CAN'T IT BE BUILT --
10:47:15AM IT SEEMS TO HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY NEXT TO THE METAL BUILDING
10:47:19AM OR NEAR THE METAL BUILDING WITH THE SETBACKS.
10:47:21AM WHAT IS THAT LAND?
10:47:28AM >> THERE'S AN EXISTING -- WHERE YOU SEE THE 22.6 ON THE VERY
10:47:31AM BACK FENCE LINE, THAT IS WHERE THE EXISTING WALL IS AT THIS
10:47:35AM POINT IN TIME.
10:47:39AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YEAH, THERE'S AN EXISTING WALL, BUT I SEE A
10:47:42AM LOT OF LAND THAT THERE COULD -- I'M LOOKING AT IT.
10:47:45AM THERE'S 32.6 FEET.
10:47:47AM YOU'VE GOT 22.6 HERE, I COULD SEE THIS BUILDING BEING PUT ON
10:47:56AM THAT SIDE PART OF THE PROPERTY.
10:48:01AM >> ARE YOU JUST NOT WANTING IT BACK THAT FAR?
10:48:06AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU'RE ASKING FOR A SETBACK VARIANCE.
10:48:09AM I'M SAYING MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED IT BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT THE
10:48:13AM BUILDING ON THE -- WHAT SIDE WOULD THAT BE?
10:48:18AM THE NORTH SIDE.
10:48:20AM I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY --
10:48:35AM >> IF I COULD, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE.
10:48:37AM THE REQUIRED SETBACKS IN THIS AREA IS A 20-FOOT REAR YARD
10:48:42AM AND 7-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK.
10:48:46AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEY WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THAT THERE, IT

10:48:48AM SEEMS TO ME.
10:48:49AM >> WHAT THEY ARE ASKING IS WHY CAN'T THIS BE PUT OVER HERE?
10:48:54AM >> HI.
10:48:54AM BRIAN HILL, 215 NORTH STERLING AVENUE.
10:48:58AM WHY CAN'T IT BE PUT THERE?
10:49:00AM CURRENTLY, THERE'S AN OAK THERE ON THAT SIDE.
10:49:07AM WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE BACK IN 2009, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL
10:49:11AM STRUCTURE THERE, MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE.
10:49:16AM BECAUSE OF TERMITES AND LACK OF UPKEEP FROM THE PREVIOUS
10:49:20AM OWNER, WE HAD TO DEMO IT.
10:49:22AM WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE COST.
10:49:24AM ALSO, THE WALL IS THERE.
10:49:26AM SO AT THE TIME WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION
10:49:29AM THAT WE COULD GRANDFATHER A NEW STRUCTURE IN, BUT I THINK
10:49:34AM THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN.
10:49:35AM YEAH, IT JUST DOESN'T SHOW THAT THERE IS AN OAK THERE.
10:49:44AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE PHOTO AT THE BOTTOM, I THINK I SEE THE
10:49:47AM OAK ON THE LAND SIDE.
10:49:49AM IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS.
10:49:52AM >> YEAH, THERE'S AN OAK THERE AND ANOTHER OAK TEN FEET
10:49:57AM CLOSER TO THE FENCE.
10:50:00AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITES.
10:50:04AM I'M GETTING UP THERE IN AGE.
10:50:05AM NO FATHER-IN-LAW.
10:50:10AM JUST MOTHER-IN-LAW.

10:50:11AM THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
10:50:14AM I WAS CURIOUS.
10:50:15AM I DO SEE THAT OAK.
10:50:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO.
10:50:19AM I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEED REALLY FROM THE SETBACK NOW THAT I
10:50:23AM SEE THE EXISTING WALL, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:50:25AM WHY DO YOU NEED TO MAKE IT OVER 600 FEET?
10:50:29AM 600 FEET IS THE LIMIT.
10:50:31AM WHY CAN'T IT BE KEPT TO THE 600 FEET -- SQUARE FOOT LIMIT?
10:50:40AM >> MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD GIVEN -- MY HUSBAND IS THE
10:50:42AM CONTRACTOR, AND THAT WAS THE DIMENSION THAT THEY HAD GIVEN
10:50:46AM US TO PUT THEIR BEDROOM, A BATHROOM AND A KITCHEN AND A
10:50:49AM LIVING ROOM IN IT.
10:50:51AM >> I THINK IT'S THE KITCHEN THAT THEY REALLY WANT IN THERE,
10:50:57AM WAS THE ORIGINAL IDEA, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A KITCHEN IN THERE
10:51:01AM SO THEY ARE NOT HAVING TO WALK -- MY MOTHER HAS A BUM KNEE
10:51:04AM AND MY DAD A BAD BACK.
10:51:07AM INSTEAD OF WALKING TO THE HOUSE --
10:51:08AM >>HARRY COHEN: YOU NEED A FEW EXTRA FEET FOR THE KITCHEN IS
10:51:12AM WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
10:51:13AM >> YES.
10:51:13AM >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
10:51:14AM THANKS.
10:51:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:51:15AM ALL RIGHT.

10:51:16AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 85?
10:51:20AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:51:22AM >> SECOND.
10:51:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:51:23AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:51:24AM ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:51:27AM OPPOSED?
10:51:28AM PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL?
10:51:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO REVERSE THE
10:51:33AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT
10:51:37AM APPLICATION SU 1-18-38 BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAD
10:51:43AM DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION, IF THE WAIVERS ARE GRANTED,
10:51:44AM IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET
10:51:46AM FORTH IN SECTION 27-129 AND SECTIONS 27-61(B) AND SECTION
10:51:50AM 27-127(B)(2), ADDING ANY FACTS OR ADDITIONAL CITATION YOU
10:51:57AM MAY FEEL APPROPRIATE TO ADD.
10:51:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:52:00AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
10:52:02AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
10:52:03AM OPPOSED?
10:52:04AM MOTION CARRIED.
10:52:06AM ITEM NUMBER 86.
10:52:15AM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:52:18AM THIS ITEM IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ITEM YOU HEARD, WHICH
10:52:21AM IT IS A REVIEW OF A DENIAL OF ANOTHER SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

10:52:24AM AGAIN, NOT A VARIANCE.
10:52:25AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND A HARDSHIP.
10:52:27AM YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT IF THE WAIVERS
10:52:30AM ARE GRANTED THE PETITION IS STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE
10:52:33AM APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS WHICH YOU'LL FIND IN THE STAFF
10:52:35AM REPORT AND AGAIN I HAVE TWO SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU.
10:52:41AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: GLORIA MOREDA, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
10:52:44AM THIS IS SPECIAL USE PETITION 18-35.
10:52:46AM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3323 CORDELIA STREET AND IT IS
10:52:54AM ALSO FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
10:52:57AM THE AERIAL SHOWS THE LOCATION ON CORDELIA JUST EAST OF GLEN
10:53:04AM AVENUE.
10:53:04AM THE REQUEST IS ASKING FOR THE STRUCTURE TO BE 745 SQUARE
10:53:12AM FEET.
10:53:12AM IT IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE WHERE THE MAXIMUM IS 600.
10:53:17AM THAT STRUCTURE HAD BEEN APPROVED BY ACTION OF THE BOARD OF
10:53:21AM ADJUSTMENT BACK IN 1995, AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS DOES SAY
10:53:26AM THEY CANNOT USE THAT TYPE OF A STRUCTURE.
10:53:30AM THE WAIVER WOULD BE FOR THE SIDE AND FOR THE ALLOWANCE TO
10:53:34AM USE THAT STRUCTURE.
10:53:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: APPLICANT?
10:53:41AM >> HI.
10:53:42AM ANTHONY LLANES.
10:53:44AM I'M ASKING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE ALLOW THE EXTENDED
10:53:50AM FAMILY LIVING VARIANCE FOR MY PROPERTY.

10:53:55AM MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS 88 YEARS OLD, AND SHE'S GOT BOTH BROKEN
10:54:07AM HIPS AND SHE LIVES BEHIND OUR HOUSE.
10:54:10AM WE'D LIKE TO KEEP HER CLOSE BY US.
10:54:13AM AND THE BUILDING WAS ALREADY THERE AND BEING USED FOR THAT.
10:54:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:54:20AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:54:22AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:54:23AM I'VE BEEN ADVISED AND I THINK APPROPRIATE, I WOULD ABSTAIN
10:54:31AM ON FIRST READING SO I CAN --
10:54:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
10:54:38AM MY MISTAKE.
10:54:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ADVISED TO.
10:54:43AM I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
10:54:44AM I WILL ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE.
10:54:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, IT'S ON THE BASIS OF THE FACT
10:54:49AM THAT I BELIEVE YOUR SISTER LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
10:54:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: CORRECT.
10:54:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU FEEL IT MAY POSE THE APPEARANCE OF A
10:54:54AM CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
10:54:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: CORRECT.
10:54:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:54:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:54:58AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:55:00AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 86?
10:55:06AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

10:55:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED
10:55:11AM BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:55:12AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:55:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REVERSE THE
10:55:20AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT
10:55:22AM APPLICATION SU-1-18-35 BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED
10:55:26AM THAT THE PETITION, IF THE WAIVERS ARE GRANTED IS CONSISTENT
10:55:29AM WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION
10:55:32AM 27-129, SECTION 27-61B AND SECTION 27-127B SUB 2.
10:55:44AM I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
10:55:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:55:50AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:55:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:55:53AM OPPOSED?
10:55:54AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN ABSTAINING FROM THAT.
10:55:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I COULD MAKE ONE COMMENT,
10:56:00AM MR. LLANES, YOUR FATHER ALWAYS DELIVERED FUEL OIL TO OUR
10:56:05AM HOUSE.
10:56:06AM ON COLD DAYS LIKE THIS, I REMEMBER IT.
10:56:08AM BECAUSE MY FATHER WOULD SCRAPE TOGETHER 20 OR 25 DOLLARS SO
10:56:12AM WE WOULD MAKE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT IN TERMS OF KEEPING IT
10:56:14AM WARM.
10:56:15AM WE REMEMBER THE TRUCK AND WE REMEMBER BEING IN THE
10:56:17AM NEIGHBORHOOD WITH YOU ALL.
10:56:18AM SO THANK YOU.

10:56:19AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:56:20AM I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO BELINDA AND TONY.
10:56:24AM WE GREW UP TOGETHER AND WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER.
10:56:29AM THANK YOU.
10:56:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO CONFESS I'VE BEEN A BAD BOY.
10:56:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, WE'LL FILE THE
10:56:42AM APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK FOR THAT CONFLICT.
10:56:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 87.
10:56:48AM >>REBECCA KERT: NUMBER 87 IS YOUR THIRD REVIEW HEARING
10:56:51AM TODAY.
10:56:51AM IT IS NOTHING LIKE THE TWO YOU JUST HEARD.
10:56:54AM FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A CHALLENGE OF A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
10:56:57AM APPROVAL.
10:56:57AM SO IT IS A THIRD-PARTY CHALLENGE AS OPPOSED TO THE TWO THAT
10:57:01AM YOU JUST HEARD WHICH WERE DENIAL.
10:57:03AM THAT WILL AFFECT IF YOU UPHOLD IT THIS TIME, THEN YOU WILL
10:57:06AM BE UPHOLDING THE APPROVAL.
10:57:08AM IF YOU REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, THEN YOU WILL BE
10:57:11AM DENYING THE REQUEST.
10:57:13AM THIS REQUEST WAS FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW.
10:57:16AM THAT OCCURS WHEN SOMEBODY IS BUILDING OUT UNDER A PLANNED
10:57:20AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:57:20AM YOUR STAFF CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU IN MORE DETAIL.
10:57:23AM BUT IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES UNDER A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:57:25AM WHICH IS SITE-PLAN CONTROLLED, IT WILL UNDERGO A REVIEW TO

10:57:29AM SEE IF THOSE CHANGES ARE WHAT YOUR CODE HAS DEEMED
10:57:33AM SUBSTANTIAL.
10:57:33AM THERE IS A VERY CONCISE LIST OF WHAT THAT TRIGGERS.
10:57:37AM THAT IS FOUND ON THE BACK OF THE TWO SAMPLE MOTIONS THAT I'M
10:57:39AM JUST ABOUT TO HAND OUT TO YOU AS WELL AS IN THE STAFF
10:57:42AM REPORT.
10:57:43AM STAFF WILL GO THROUGH THEIR ANALYSIS OF THAT WITH YOU.
10:57:45AM MR. SHELBY I BELIEVE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE
10:57:48AM IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL ONE WHEN YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY WHO IS
10:57:51AM BRINGING THE CHALLENGE.
10:57:52AM THEY DO HAVE TWO SAMPLE MOTIONS AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE IF
10:57:54AM THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:04AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:58:05AM ABBYE FEELEY.
10:58:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, IF I CAN, I WANT TO
10:58:11AM REVIEW WITH COUNCIL AND WITH THE ATTORNEYS WHO ARE PRESENT
10:58:15AM FOR BOTH THE PETITIONER AND THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT THAT WE
10:58:19AM HAVE PROCEDURES HERE THAT HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE
10:58:22AM ATTORNEYS.
10:58:23AM WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THE HEARING IS OPEN.
10:58:25AM THE WITNESSES ARE SWORN.
10:58:27AM I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY EX PARTE WRITTEN DOCUMENTS TO
10:58:31AM YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT NEED TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED.
10:58:34AM IF THERE ARE ANY DISCLOSURES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, NOW WOULD
10:58:36AM BE THE TIME TO DO THAT.

10:58:37AM COUNCIL, AS MS. KERT DID SAY, THE STANDARD OF REVIEW IS
10:58:42AM SECTION 2761-J-3.
10:58:46AM IF I CAN, PLEASE, I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT BRIEFLY.
10:58:49AM IN REVIEW ZA PERMIT, CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPLY A DE NOVO
10:58:53AM STANDARD OF REVIEW AND SHALL NOT BE LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW TO
10:58:56AM THAT INFORMATION DOCUMENTATION OR EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE ZA
10:58:59AM PERMIT WAS BASED.
10:59:00AM CITY COUNCIL SHALL FOLLOW ALL APPLICABLE ORDINANCES IN
10:59:04AM ARRIVING AT ITS DECISION AND MAY RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE.
10:59:07AM CITY COUNCIL AFTER REVIEWING THE ZA PERMIT AND HEARING
10:59:10AM EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY MAY EITHER AFFIRM THE ZA PERMIT OR
10:59:14AM DENY THE ZA PERMIT.
10:59:15AM AND AGAIN, DISTRIBUTED TO YOU ARE THE SAMPLE MOTIONS FROM
10:59:19AM MS. KERT.
10:59:19AM WITH THAT BEING SAID AND THE APPROVAL OF THE HEARING ORDER
10:59:24AM OF BUSINESS, IF ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I
10:59:29AM JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF THERE IS A REQUEST BY A PARTY TO
10:59:33AM THIS HEARING WHO WOULD SEEK TO MAKE INQUIRY OR ASK QUESTIONS
10:59:37AM OF OTHER WITNESSES, THE TIME TO DO THAT WOULD BE AT THE TIME
10:59:41AM OF REBUTTAL.
10:59:43AM SO THAT BEING SAID, I'D ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE
10:59:46AM HEARING ORDER OF BUSINESS.
10:59:47AM >> SO MOVE.
10:59:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:59:49AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.

10:59:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:59:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:59:54AM FINALLY, THAT IF ANY SPEAKERS ARE SPEAKING AT THE DIRECTION
10:59:57AM OF A PARTY, FOR INSTANCE, EXPERT WITNESSES, TESTIMONY AND
11:00:00AM THE LIKE, THAT TIME IS ACCOUNTED -- IS COUNTED AGAINST THE
11:00:06AM TIMES PARTY.
11:00:07AM THANK YOU.
11:00:07AM MS. KERT HAS MADE HER STATEMENT.
11:00:10AM I BELIEVE WE ARE READY FOR THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF.
11:00:15AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
11:00:16AM ABBYE FEELEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:00:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO GO OVER THE REVIEW
11:00:21AM THAT I CONDUCTED IN RELATION TO THIS APPLICATION.
11:00:24AM AS WAS MENTIONED TO YOU, A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IS ONCE A PD
11:00:32AM IS APPROVED, CODE ALLOWS FOR MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE PD
11:00:35AM WITHOUT COMING BACK BEFORE COUNCIL.
11:00:37AM THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT GOVERN THAT.
11:00:39AM THOSE APPLICATIONS DO COME TO ME.
11:00:41AM I REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS AND A DETERMINATION IS ISSUED.
11:00:47AM A FEW YEARS AGO, THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE UNDERWENT THE -- THE
11:00:51AM PROCESS UNDERWENT A MODIFICATION, AND THAT MODIFICATION WAS
11:00:54AM THAT THAT PROCESS IS NOW PUBLICLY NOTICED.
11:00:57AM THE NOTICE IS ISSUED AND WE DO NOT ISSUE ANY FINDING OR
11:01:04AM DETERMINATION UNTIL 15 DAYS AFTER THAT TIME.
11:01:08AM WHEN AN APPLICATION IS RECEIVED BY LAND DEVELOPMENT

11:01:11AM COORDINATION, THE APPLICATION TYPICALLY INCLUDES AN
11:01:14AM EXPLANATION OF THE REQUEST AND AN ASSOCIATED AMENDED SITE
11:01:18AM PLAN.
11:01:19AM THE PLAN IS ROUTED TO THE APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
11:01:22AM COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND A FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS IS THEN
11:01:26AM ISSUED TO THE APPLICANT.
11:01:27AM THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLY TO THOSE COMMENTS,
11:01:31AM MODIFY THE SITE PLAN OR ASK THAT THE SITE PLAN IS CONSIDERED
11:01:35AM AS SUBMITTED.
11:01:35AM THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.
11:01:40AM SOMETIMES WE GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF ROUNDS UNTIL WE GET THE
11:01:43AM MODIFICATIONS UNDER THOSE MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
11:01:48AM THE APPLICANT IS INFORMED OF THE CHANGES AND AT THE
11:01:51AM CONCLUSION OF THE PROCESS, AS I MENTIONED, A DETERMINATION
11:01:54AM IS MADE AS TO WHETHER THE REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS ARE
11:01:56AM CONSIDERED TO BE SUBSTANTIAL OR NON-SUBSTANTIAL.
11:02:00AM WHAT I'D LIKE TO READ TO YOU REAL QUICKLY IS THE
11:02:03AM INTRODUCTION TO THE CRITERIA AS CONTAINED IN THE CODE.
11:02:07AM I DID PROVIDE THOSE.
11:02:10AM AND THEY CAN BE FOUND UNDER CHAPTER 27-138-7.
11:02:15AM IT SAYS HERE, CHANGES TO AN APPROVED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN
11:02:22AM MAY BE PERMITTED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WITH REVIEW AND
11:02:25AM CONCURRENCE BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, PROVIDED
11:02:27AM THE CHANGES ARE DETERMINED TO BE NON-SUBSTANTIAL WHEN A
11:02:31AM PROPOSED CHANGE MEETS OR EXCEEDS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING,

11:02:35AM THEREBY CONSTITUTING A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, SUCH CHANGE SHALL
11:02:39AM BE PROCESSED IN THE LIKE MANNER AS THE ORIGINAL REZONING
11:02:43AM SUBMITTAL.
11:02:43AM HOWEVER, ANY AMENDMENT CHANGE OR ALTERATION REQUIRED BY
11:02:49AM PERMIT CONDITIONS OR ANY REGULATORY AGENCY HAVING
11:02:51AM JURISDICTION OVER THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE PRESUMED NOT TO
11:02:54AM BE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, PROVIDED THAT NO ALTERNATIVE
11:02:56AM SOLUTION IS AVAILABLE.
11:02:58AM THE CRITERIA THEN FOLLOW.
11:02:59AM THOSE CRITERIA ARE IN YOUR REPORT, AND I WILL TALK ABOUT
11:03:03AM THEM BRIEFLY.
11:03:04AM THE REQUEST THAT CAME UNDER SUB 18-17 IS LOCATED AT HYDE
11:03:09AM PARK VILLAGE ON BLOCK D.
11:03:13AM MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS BLOCK AS THE LIFESTYLE FITNESS BLOCK,
11:03:17AM AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE GYM CLOSED AND THE APPLICATION
11:03:22AM CAME IN WITH THAT SPACE BEING REQUESTED TO BE REPURPOSED FOR
11:03:28AM ALTERNATIVE USES WHICH ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE VILLAGE.
11:03:30AM THE VILLAGE IS DO 671, REZONED THAT IN 2006.
11:03:37AM IT HAS A MULTIPLE MENU OF USES THAT CAN BE LOCATED WITHIN
11:03:40AM THE BUILDINGS THERE AS WELL AS REDEVELOPMENT FOR TWO OF THE
11:03:43AM BLOCKS.
11:03:43AM ONE OF THOSE BLOCKS IS CURRENTLY UNDER REDEVELOPMENT, BLOCK
11:03:47AM H, DOWN AT THE SOUTH SIDE.
11:03:50AM I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHOW YOU IN JUST A MINUTE THOSE BLOCKS.
11:03:55AM BUT THE REQUEST WAS TO REPURPOSE THAT SPACE FOR OTHER TENANT

11:04:01AM SPACES.
11:04:01AM WITH THAT REQUEST CAME MODIFIED PARKING TO SHOW THAT IT WAS
11:04:07AM IN COMPLIANCE AND A FLOOR PLAN TO SHOW THE BREAKDOWN OF
11:04:11AM THOSE SPACES.
11:04:12AM I CONDUCTED THE REVIEW.
11:04:19AM THE APPLICATION CAME IN.
11:04:21AM IT WAS ROUTED TO TRANSPORTATION, SOLID WASTE, AND LAND
11:04:24AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:04:27AM UNDER THAT REVIEW, THE MASTER PARKING TABLE, HYDE PARK
11:04:32AM VILLAGE DOES HAVE A MASTER PARKING TABLE.
11:04:35AM IT CAME BACK FROM ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL REZONING BACK IN THE
11:04:42AM EARLY 80s, AND IT ALLOWED FOR A PORTION OF INTERNAL
11:04:45AM CAPTURE.
11:04:46AM BECAUSE THERE'S MIX OF USES IN THE VILLAGE, IT IS NOT A
11:04:49AM STRAIGHT, HERE ARE THE USES, HERE IS THE PARKING REQUIRED.
11:04:52AM THEY DO HAVE A MASTER PARKING FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
11:04:58AM THE RESIDENTIAL USES HAVE TO MEET.
11:05:00AM THEY HAVE A MASTER PARKING FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT
11:05:03AM IS UPDATED EVERY TIME A NEW TENANT GOES INTO THE VILLAGE.
11:05:07AM THIS HAS BEEN CARRIED THROUGH EVEN THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
11:05:10AM APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE YOU.
11:05:12AM IT IS MAINTAINED BY WS DEVELOPMENT, WHO IS THE HOLDER OF THE
11:05:17AM PROPERTY, AND THEY ARE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER
11:05:20AM OF SPACES.
11:05:20AM AND AS THEY APPROACH THOSE SPACES EVEN WITH THE INTERNAL

11:05:23AM CAPTURE, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT.
11:05:29AM TRANSPORTATION REVIEWED THIS.
11:05:31AM SOLID WASTE ALSO.
11:05:33AM THE COMPACTOR SPACE THAT'S LOCATED ON BLOCK, IT'S IN BETWEEN
11:05:39AM BLOCK D AND F.
11:05:40AM TECHNICALLY ON F.
11:05:41AM THERE'S A COMPACTOR AREA.
11:05:44AM WE DID ADJUST THAT COMPACTOR AREA AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS
11:05:48AM SERVICED.
11:05:48AM THE GYM DID NOT GENERATE THE AMOUNT OF WASTE THAT THE RETAIL
11:05:52AM AND RESTAURANT SPACES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED WOULD
11:05:54AM GENERATE.
11:05:54AM SO WE DID GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT UPDATED.
11:05:58AM THAT WAS BUILT A LONG TIME AGO, SO WE SENT SOLID WASTE OUT
11:06:03AM THERE.
11:06:03AM THEY MADE SURE THAT THE COMPACTOR AREA WAS SERVICEABLE AND
11:06:08AM WAS SAFE AND COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.
11:06:11AM WE HAD THEM CUT BACK SHRUBS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER
11:06:14AM FOR IT TO BE SERVICED SAFELY.
11:06:15AM SO THAT ITEM WAS ADDRESSED.
11:06:16AM ONCE THE REVIEW WAS FINALIZED, I DID ISSUE A DETERMINATION
11:06:22AM THAT THE REPURPOSING OF THIS AREA FOR THE USES AS PROPOSED
11:06:27AM WOULD NOT TRIGGER A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE AND THAT THERE WAS
11:06:30AM ADEQUATE PARKING AVAILABLE AND ADEQUATE ENTITLEMENT
11:06:33AM AVAILABLE FOR THESE USES TO OCCUPY THE SPACE ON BLOCK D.

11:06:37AM THERE IS A TOTAL OF 45,275 SQUARE FEET ON THAT BLOCK.
11:06:48AM AND BASED ON THAT AS WELL AS THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S
11:06:53AM 972 NONRESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES REQUIRED, AND THERE'S A
11:06:57AM TOTAL OF 993 NONRESIDENTIAL SPACES AVAILABLE.
11:07:02AM THEREFORE, THERE WAS ADEQUATE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE.
11:07:05AM BRIEFLY GO OVER THE SITE PLAN WITH YOU.
11:07:21AM THIS IS THE PD FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE.
11:07:24AM THIS IS THE BLOCK IN QUESTION HERE, IT IS AT THE CORNER OF
11:07:30AM DAKOTA AND SWANN.
11:07:32AM THIS IS REFERRED TO AS BLOCK D.
11:07:35AM THAT COMPACTOR SPACE I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS JUST IN THIS
11:07:37AM AREA HERE.
11:07:38AM IT KIND OF BRIDGES THE BLOCK D AND BLOCK F.
11:07:44AM DO A BLOWUP OF THAT BLOCK FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SEE.
11:07:54AM THIS WAS A FORMER CONFIGURATION.
11:08:22AM THIS WAS THE PROPOSED CONFIGURATION.
11:08:26AM BROOKS BROTHERS REMAINING, CAPITAL ONE CAFE IN THIS AREA.
11:08:31AM I'M SORRY, WEST ELM REMAINING, BROOKS BROTHERS, CAPITAL ONE
11:08:36AM CAFE IN THIS AREA AND SEVERAL FUTURE RETAIL, FITNESS
11:08:40AM COMPONENT REMAINING, AND THEN A SMALL FUTURE RESTAURANT AT
11:08:44AM THE CORNER OF OREGON AND SWANN.
11:08:46AM I MENTIONED TO YOU THE MASTER PARKING THAT ALSO WAS INCLUDED
11:08:57AM AND REVIEWED AND INCLUDED THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ALSO ON BLOCK
11:09:02AM H AND EVERYTHING UP TO DATE WITHIN THE VILLAGE FOR
11:09:06AM NONRESIDENTIAL USES.

11:09:07AM 972 WAS REQUIRED.
11:09:10AM 993 EXISTS.
11:09:15AM >>HARRY COHEN: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
11:09:17AM THE TWO PROPOSED RESTAURANT SPACES, WOULD THOSE HAVE TO COME
11:09:22AM IN FOR THEIR OWN SPECIFIC, ANY KIND OF REZONING OR WET
11:09:29AM ZONING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
11:09:30AM IF THEY WERE TO BE USED FOR THAT?
11:09:34AM >> IF THEY DO REQUEST ALCOHOL, THEN A SPECIAL USE 1 JUST
11:09:39AM LIKE ALL THE REST --
11:09:41AM >>HARRY COHEN: THIS DOESN'T GIVE THEM THAT ENTITLEMENT?
11:09:43AM IT'S JUST ABOUT THE PARKING RATIO.
11:09:44AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUST THE USE, YES.
11:09:47AM IT DOESN'T GIVE THEM -- THE SPECIAL PERMISSION THAT THE
11:09:49AM CITY'S CODE REQUIRES FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES STILL SITS
11:09:53AM ON TOP OF THAT ENTITLEMENT.
11:09:55AM BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, STAFF DID FIND THAT THE REQUEST
11:10:01AM WAS A NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:10:03AM THIS PROCESS ALLOWS FOR US TO MEMORIALIZE THE MODIFICATIONS
11:10:07AM AND HOW THEY ARE OCCURRING WITHIN THE VILLAGE.
11:10:10AM WHEN BLOCK H, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALSO
11:10:14AM CAME IN AND THEY HAD A CHANGE TO THE DEVELOPMENT
11:10:17AM CONFIGURATION, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED THROUGH THE ZO
11:10:21AM 6-71.
11:10:22AM THEY CAME IN THROUGH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:10:26AM THEY SHOWED HOW THEY WERE GOING TO MODIFY WHAT WAS

11:10:29AM PREVIOUSLY ENTITLED.
11:10:30AM WE REVIEWED THAT.
11:10:30AM WE FOUND THAT TO BE NON-SUBSTANTIAL AS WELL.
11:10:32AM THIS IS A TYPICAL PROCESS FOR HOW WE MODIFY THESE LARGER
11:10:36AM DEVELOPMENTS, EVEN SMALLER PDs, TO MEMORIALIZE THOSE
11:10:39AM MODIFICATIONS AND HAVE THEM ON THE BOOKS.
11:10:42AM STAFF DID FIND THE REQUEST WAS NON-SUBSTANTIAL, AND I AM
11:10:47AM AVAILABLE.
11:10:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:10:50AM PETITIONER?
11:11:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:11:07AM DAVID BRITTAIN.
11:11:09AM PROFESSIONAL ADDRESS 2700 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD HERE IN
11:11:15AM TAMPA ON BEHALF OF MEL TRUSTEES.
11:11:17AM I AM UNSWORN.
11:11:19AM COULD YOU ADMINISTER THE --
11:11:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE PLANNING ON SPEAKING FOR THE
11:11:25AM REMAINDER OF THIS AGENDA?
11:11:27AM PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN.
11:11:29AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:11:39AM >> OUR CONSULTING CIVIL ENGINEER IS NOT YET PRESENT.
11:11:43AM I'M EXPECTING HIM AT ANY MINUTE.
11:11:45AM I HAD CALLED HIM ABOUT 40 MINUTES AGO TO ATTEND.
11:11:49AM HE IS NOT HERE.
11:11:51AM I'D ELECT TO HAVE HIS TESTIMONY AT SOME POINT JUST TO

11:11:53AM INDICATE OUR PARKING CALCULATIONS, WHICH ARE IN ONE OF THE
11:11:57AM DOCUMENTS THAT I GAVE YOU.
11:11:59AM LET ME ASK IF I MIGHT MOVE FOR A SHORT CONTINUANCE ON THE
11:12:03AM AGENDA.
11:12:04AM WE WOULD STILL PRESENT HERE THIS MORNING, BUT I'D LIKE FOR
11:12:06AM OUR ENGINEER TO BE HERE WHEN WE PROCEED.
11:12:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHEN YOU SAY SHORT, WHAT YOU MEAN?
11:12:14AM >> I WOULD SAY HE SHOULD BE HERE WITHIN 15 MINUTES.
11:12:17AM I'M SORRY.
11:12:19AM HE'S JUST WALKING IN THE DOOR.
11:12:21AM VERY GOOD.
11:12:22AM LET ME WITHDRAW MY REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
11:12:24AM AND PROCEED.
11:12:28AM HE'LL NEED TO BE SWORN.
11:12:31AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:12:33AM COULD YOU ADMINISTER THE OATH TO HIM AS WELL?
11:12:35AM I'M SORRY.
11:12:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THIS IS GETTING TO BE A BAD HABIT.
11:12:38AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:12:49AM >> ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE A COPY OF MY PRESENTATION
11:12:52AM SLIDES THAT I HAD FURNISHED IN ADVANCE.
11:12:54AM VERY GOOD.
11:12:56AM MEL TRUSTEES, LLC IS THE OWNER OF A RESIDENTIAL UNIT LOCATED
11:13:00AM TO THE SOUTHWEST OF BLOCK D IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:13:03AM THE OWNER BELIEVES THAT, AMONG OTHER THINGS, PARKING IN THE

11:13:07AM VILLAGE BOTH FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL HAS BEEN
11:13:11AM SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED BY A PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT IN THE
11:13:15AM TENANT MIX TOWARDS MORE AND MORE RESTAURANTS WITH
11:13:18AM ACCOMPANYING SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
11:13:20AM SO, THEREFORE, OUR PRESENTATION IS GOING TO INVOLVE SOME
11:13:23AM PARKING MATHEMATICS.
11:13:25AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE USING THE SLIDES THAT WE GAVE YOU.
11:13:28AM OUR BASIC CONTENTION IS THAT WE THINK THAT UNDER 27-1387,
11:13:36AM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FAILED TO ADEQUATELY CONSIDER THE
11:13:40AM CONDITIONS OR STIPULATIONS AUTHORIZED IN THE ORIGINAL
11:13:42AM APPROVAL AS AMENDED IN '06 BY NOT DOING A DETAILED
11:13:48AM CALCULATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THEIR PARKING
11:13:52AM REQUIREMENTS ON A UNIT BY UNIT BASIS.
11:13:55AM MOREOVER, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT THE UNIT
11:14:00AM PROJECTS, THE CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS HAVE ACTUALLY -- DO
11:14:05AM PROVIDE ALL THE PARKING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASSUMING THAT THEY
11:14:09AM DO.
11:14:09AM WE'LL GET TO MORE OF THAT IN A MOMENT.
11:14:11AM WE ALSO MENTIONED IN OUR PETITION THAT WE BELIEVE THERE'S
11:14:14AM BEEN A CHANGE IF NOT IN THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING AREA
11:14:17AM THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS A SURROUNDING AREA, THERE'S A
11:14:21AM FAILURE OF ONE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY PARKING
11:14:24AM SPACES MAY BE LEGALLY AVAILABLE.
11:14:26AM AND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DID NOT CONSIDER THAT.
11:14:29AM MOREOVER, WE WOULD CONTEND THAT EVEN IF THE ZONING

11:14:32AM ADMINISTRATOR FOUND THAT THERE WAS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE,
11:14:36AM THERE ARE STILL STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO GOVERN THE ZONING
11:14:40AM ADMINISTRATOR'S DISCRETION IN THE MIDST OF THE REVIEW.
11:14:43AM UNDER 27-138(3)(A), WHICH WAS THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW OF PDS
11:14:49AM GENERALLY, THE REVIEWING STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE THE
11:14:51AM IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
11:14:53AM I'M QUOTING, UPON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SURROUNDING USES AND
11:14:57AM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:14:59AM WE THINK THAT A CLOSE ANALYSIS OF PARKING IS NECESSARY IN
11:15:02AM THESE CASES, ESPECIALLY IN A PROJECT LIKE OLD HYDE PARK
11:15:06AM VILLAGE, WHICH HAS A LONG HISTORY STRETCHING BACK TO THE
11:15:11AM 1980s.
11:15:12AM TO SUMMARIZE BRIEFLY ON MY SLIDE NUMBER 2, BASED ON THE
11:15:17AM ZONING SITE PLAN, WE BELIEVE THE OWNER APPLICANT HAS TO
11:15:20AM PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN A TOTAL OF 1315 TOTAL PARKING SPACES.
11:15:26AM IF WE HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
11:15:28AM THERE, IT'S SLIGHT.
11:15:30AM THE NUMBER ALLOCATED TO NONRESIDENTIAL PARKING WOULD BE 993.
11:15:35AM WE'RE TAKING THAT FROM THE LATEST AMENDMENT.
11:15:38AM AND, THEREFORE, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES
11:15:41AM WOULD BE 1315 MINUS 993, WHICH WOULD BE 322.
11:15:46AM UNDER THE ZONING APPROVAL, THERE IS A FORMULA FOR
11:15:50AM CALCULATING THE REQUIRED RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES.
11:15:52AM YOU SEE IT ON PAGE 2 OF OUR SLIDES.
11:15:55AM IT'S 1.5 PARKING SPACES FOR EACH ONE AND TWO BEDROOM

11:15:59AM RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
11:16:00AM TWO UNITS FOR EACH TWO-BEDROOM RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 25.25
11:16:06AM PARKING SPACES PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT FOR VISITOR PARKING.
11:16:09AM LOOK ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 3, HYDE PARK VILLAGE, Z06-71
11:16:19AM SITE PLAN DISCLOSES A MAXIMUM PROJECT UNIT TOTAL, IF YOU
11:16:22AM COUNT ALL THE BLOCKS, WE BELIEVE OF 179 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
11:16:28AM SO USING THE FORMULA, THE REQUIRED VISITOR SPACES WOULD HAVE
11:16:33AM TO BE 179 TIMES .25, WHICH WOULD BE 45.
11:16:37AM YOU'D SUBTRACT THAT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACE TOTAL
11:16:40AM OF 322, AND YOU'D HAVE 277 SPACES REQUIRED FOR RESIDENT
11:16:45AM PARKING, NOT VISITOR PARKING, AS IS MENTIONED ON THE SLIDE.
11:16:49AM FOR RESIDENT PARKING.
11:16:52AM WE HAVE TO APPLY THE PARKING FORMULA, DETERMINE THE NUMBER
11:16:54AM OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS IN THE PROJECT.
11:16:57AM THIS WAS THE PROBLEM WE NOTED IN OUR PETITION FOR REVIEW.
11:16:59AM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DIDN'T ENGAGE IN THIS LEVEL OF
11:17:02AM ANALYSIS, WHICH IS NOT EASY TO DO, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE
11:17:06AM PROJECTS IN THIS CASE ARE SPREAD OVER FIVE DIFFERENT
11:17:10AM CONDOMINIUM UNITS.
11:17:11AM AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS ON THE PUBLIC
11:17:14AM RECORD THAT REFLECT THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THOSE PROJECTS
11:17:16AM AND THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES PROVIDED TO THEM.
11:17:20AM TO BE FAIR TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, WE'VE TRIED TO DO
11:17:22AM THAT ANALYSIS ON OUR OWN TO SEE WHETHER WE THINK THE
11:17:25AM RESIDENTIAL PARKING IS PRESENT BOTH THEORETICALLY, THAT IS

11:17:28AM THE SPACES CORRESPOND TO THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IN THE
11:17:31AM UNITS, AND LEGALLY.
11:17:32AM THAT IS THAT THE SPACES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED ARE
11:17:35AM ACTUALLY PROVIDED.
11:17:36AM SO LET ME QUICKLY SUMMARIZE THE PROJECTS INVOLVED, WHICH IS
11:17:39AM ON PAGE 4.
11:17:40AM THERE ARE FIVE CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:17:44AM THE FT RESIDENTIAL CONDO, WHICH HAS EIGHT UNITS.
11:17:49AM THE PROJECT CALLED HYDE PARK WALK, WHICH HAS 136 UNITS.
11:17:53AM THERE IS THE F RESIDENTIAL CONDO, WHICH HAS 9 UNITS.
11:17:58AM THE CET RESIDENTIAL CONDO, WHICH HAS 14 UNITS AND THE E
11:18:03AM RESIDENTIAL CONDO, WHICH HAS 7 UNITS.
11:18:06AM HYDE PARK WALK, THE LARGEST CONDOMINIUM, HAS EITHER 134 OR
11:18:12AM 136 UNITS, DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU READ THE DECLARATION OR
11:18:15AM COUNT THE UNITS SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED,
11:18:18AM THAT IT HAS ITS OWN SELF-CONTAINED PARKING UNITS.
11:18:27AM WE HAVE SUMMARIZED ON THE NEXT SLIDE, PAGE FIVE.
11:18:30AM AND I WOULD LIKE FOR MR. HOANG MAI, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, TO
11:18:35AM COME UP AND BRIEFLY TESTIFY AS TO HIS ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF
11:18:38AM THE PREPARATION OF THIS CHART.
11:18:40AM MR. MAI.
11:18:41AM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS DEDUCTING FROM MY SPEAKING TIME.
11:18:46AM >> MY NAME IS HOANG MAI, 1403 NORTH DALE MABRY, 33618.
11:18:53AM I AM A CIVIL ENGINEER.
11:18:54AM I CONFIRM WITH DAVID BRITTAIN THAT I TOOK THE RECORDED PLAT

11:19:01AM AND THEN I COUNT ALL THE PARKING AS A RESULT IN YOUR BACKUP
11:19:07AM MATERIAL.
11:19:07AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
11:19:10AM >> LET ME CONTINUE, AND THEN IF NECESSARY, WE CAN COMMENT
11:19:15AM FROM MY BACKUP.
11:19:16AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART THAT WE PREPARED, YOU'LL SEE EACH
11:19:19AM OF THE CONDOMINIUMS SCHEDULED.
11:19:21AM THE FTFCET AND E CONDOS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN THAT SAYS
11:19:28AM PARKING SPACE REQUIRED PER PD SITE PLAN, IF YOU DO THE
11:19:33AM ANALYSIS ON THOSE PROJECTS, WE FIND THAT EACH OF THEM BASED
11:19:38AM ON THE NUMBERS OF BEDROOMS IN EACH PROJECT, ALL OF THEM BUT
11:19:43AM HYDE PARK WALK APPEAR TO COMPLY.
11:19:48AM AND HYDE PARK WALK COMPLIES THEORETICALLY, CONCEPTUALLY.
11:19:52AM THAT IS IF YOU RUN THE COUNT BASED UPON THE NUMBERS OF ONE,
11:19:55AM TWO, AND THREE BEDROOMS, THAT THE PLATS AND THE DECLARATIONS
11:19:59AM ACTUALLY SAY THEY HAVE, YOU WOULD COME OUT WITH CONFORMING
11:20:04AM PARKING SPACES.
11:20:04AM THE PROBLEM WITH HYDE PARK WALK IS THAT IN ANALYZING THE
11:20:09AM PLAT AND THE DECLARATION, WE DON'T FIND THAT NUMBER OF
11:20:14AM PARKING SPACES.
11:20:15AM WE ONLY FIND 161 PLUS 25 LEGAL PARKING SPACES SHOWN ON THE
11:20:23AM PLAT OF HYDE PARK WALK.
11:20:25AM SO GOING BACK TO THE CALCULATIONS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT,
11:20:30AM WHEN WE CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED, WE
11:20:34AM FIND THAT THE TOTAL, 268 PLUS 44, YOU'LL SEE THOSE IN THE

11:20:42AM COLUMNS ABOVE, 268 FOR RESIDENT SPACES, 44 FOR VISITOR
11:20:47AM SPACES.
11:20:47AM THAT NUMBER COMES OUT AT 312, WHICH IS WITHIN THE 322
11:20:52AM RESIDENTIAL SPACE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MENTIONED.
11:20:55AM BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM.
11:21:00AM AND LOOK AT THIS CONNECTION AT MY SIXTH SLIDE, WHERE IT SAYS
11:21:05AM CONDO PROJECTS OF HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:21:07AM SO THE PROJECT COMPLIES IN THE BE A TRACT WITH THE ZO 6-71
11:21:13AM PARKING REQUIREMENTS BASED ON UNIT BEDROOM COUNTS AT 312,
11:21:17AM WHICH IS LESS THAN THE 322 MAXIMUM I STARTED OUT OUR
11:21:20AM PRESENTATION WITH.
11:21:21AM BUT BASED ON ACTUAL AVAILABLE PARKING SHOWN BY THE CONDO
11:21:25AM PLATS, THIS PROJECT MAY BE SHORT OF THE LEGAL PARKING
11:21:29AM REQUIRED TO MAKE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
11:21:31AM IN OTHER WORDS, 237 PLUS 30 IS 267, WHICH IS LESS THAN 312.
11:21:40AM SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH LEGAL PARKING ACTUALLY EXISTED
11:21:44AM TO SUPPORT HYDE PARK VILLAGE AS A WHOLE.
11:21:49AM I DON'T THINK THAT THAT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS WAS DONE BY THE
11:21:52AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IN THE CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER THIS
11:21:56AM PROJECT COMPLIES WITH CONDITIONS OR STIPULATIONS AUTHORIZED
11:22:00AM IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL AS THAT APPROVAL HAS BEEN AMENDED.
11:22:04AM AND BEYOND THIS, BEYOND THIS, WE SHOULD POINT OUT THAT IT IS
11:22:10AM NOT CLEAR TO US WHETHER THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT OF THE
11:22:15AM MULTIPLE PREVIOUS NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN
11:22:18AM GOING ON IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE ARE CUMULATIVELY AFFECTING A

11:22:25AM SIGNIFICANT IMBALANCE IN THE COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL
11:22:28AM PARKING AVAILABILITY.
11:22:29AM THERE IS A LIMITED NUMBER OF SPACES IN THIS PROJECT THAT ARE
11:22:35AM ALLOCATED TO RESIDENTIAL IN THE COMMERCIAL PARKING GARAGES.
11:22:40AM IN FACT, IF YOU'LL LOOK BACK AT THE TABLE THAT I'VE PROVIDED
11:22:42AM YOU WITH, ACTUALLY, THERE ARE ONLY TWO OF THEM.
11:22:51AM THE E-CONDOMINIUM IS ALLOWED 18 PARKING SPACES IN THE
11:22:54AM GARAGE.
11:22:55AM WE TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT IN OUR CALCULATIONS.
11:22:57AM AND THE F CONDOMINIUM UNIT IS ALLOWED 18 UNITS PARKING IN
11:23:04AM THE BLOCK D GARAGE.
11:23:07AM AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, HAVING REVIEWED A TRULY AMAZING
11:23:10AM NUMBER OF RESTRICTIVE EASEMENTS AND COVENANTED AGREEMENTS IN
11:23:14AM PREPARATION OF THIS HEARING, WE DON'T FIND ANY OTHER
11:23:17AM SPECIFIC ALLOCATIONS OF PARKING IN THE GARAGES TO THE
11:23:20AM CONDOMINIUMS AND PARTICULARLY NOT HYDE PARK WALK.
11:23:23AM SO THAT IS OUR REQUEST IS THAT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
11:23:31AM CONSIDER SPECIFICALLY AVAILABLE LEGAL PARKING IN THESE
11:23:33AM PROJECTS.
11:23:34AM IT APPEARS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE BEEN ASSUMING FOR A NUMBER
11:23:36AM OF YEARS THAT THE PARKING IS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE.
11:23:39AM WE'RE NOT SURE WHETHER IT IS OR NOT.
11:23:42AM OUR CALCULATIONS BASED ON REVIEW OF THE PLATS AND CONDO
11:23:45AM DECLARATIONS SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT IN HYDE PARK WALK, IT IS
11:23:49AM NOT.

11:23:50AM AND SO FOR THAT, LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:23:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION, CHAIR, I'D
11:23:58AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:23:59AM HERE'S WHAT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH, MR. BRITTAIN, PAGE
11:24:02AM TWO, YOU HAVE THE PROJECT WIDE RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACE
11:24:05AM RATIOS.
11:24:06AM YOU HAVE 1.5 PER 1 AND TWO BEDROOM RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND
11:24:09AM THEN YOU HAVE 2.0 PER TWO-BEDROOM RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
11:24:13AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MATH RIGHT.
11:24:15AM BECAUSE YOUR PRESENTATION IS BASED ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ON
11:24:20AM MATHEMATICS.
11:24:21AM AND SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING HERE?
11:24:23AM >> IT'S TRUE.
11:24:23AM THEY SHOULD BE THREE-BEDROOM UNITS.
11:24:25AM THAT IS A TYPO IN THE DOCUMENT.
11:24:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT IS A TYPO.
11:24:28AM >> TYPO.
11:24:29AM THREE BEDROOM.
11:24:31AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE YOU TELLING ME THAT BECAUSE IT
11:24:34AM DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW IT LOOKS.
11:24:37AM >> IN FACT, WE USED THAT NUMBER IN THE TABLE SUAREZ ALL
11:24:40AM RIGHT.
11:24:41AM THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
11:24:42AM IT IS ONLY 1.5 PER ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
11:24:47AM >> YES.

11:24:51AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND YOU SAY YOUR TABLE IS ACCURATE TO THE
11:24:56AM STATEMENT YOU MADE 1.5 PER ONE AND TWO BEDROOM RESIDENTIAL
11:25:00AM UNITS AND TWO PER THREE-BEDROOM RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
11:25:04AM >> THAT'S MY BELIEF.
11:25:14AM >> ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACE FOR ONE AND TWO BEDROOM AND
11:25:19AM TWO FOR THREE BEDROOM.
11:25:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE TABLE, MR. MAI?
11:25:26AM >> YES, SIR.
11:25:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU'RE A SMART LAWYER BRINGING UP THE
11:25:29AM ENGINEER WHEN THE MATH IS IN QUESTION.
11:25:33AM >> I'VE LEARNED THAT OVER TIME, SIR.
11:25:35AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:25:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:25:36AM MR. COHEN.
11:25:38AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE
11:25:43AM THAT ALL THE PARKING EXISTS THAT THE CITY THINKS EXISTS.
11:25:48AM >> YES, SIR.
11:25:49AM >>HARRY COHEN: IN THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO, HOW MANY PARKING
11:25:52AM SPACES ARE YOU SAYING ARE MISSING?
11:25:55AM >> WELL, WE'RE MISSING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, BY OUR
11:25:59AM CALCULATIONS, 267 AND 312.
11:26:05AM >>HARRY COHEN: 40 SOME ODD.
11:26:07AM IF YOUR CONTENTION IS CORRECT, THAT'S HOW MANY YOU ARE
11:26:11AM SAYING ARE MISSING.
11:26:13AM >> YES.

11:26:13AM LAST SLIDE, BASED ON THE ACTUAL AVAILABLE PARKING SHOWN ON
11:26:15AM THE CONDO PLATS, THE PROJECT MAY BE SHORT BECAUSE IF YOU
11:26:19AM TAKE 237 FROM THE CHART AND YOU ADD IT TO THE 30 UNITS OF
11:26:28AM PARKING, THEN WE COME UP WITH 267, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE
11:26:32AM 312, WHICH WOULD BE THIS PROJECT, THE 312 IS THE PROJECT'S
11:26:36AM COMPLIANCE ON AN ABSTRACT BASIS WITH THE FORMULA BASED ON
11:26:41AM THE NUMBER OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
11:26:44AM BY THE WAY, WE PULLED A TITLE SEARCH ON ONE SPECIFIC UNIT
11:26:47AM FROM EVERY ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
11:26:49AM ALL FIVE OF THE PROJECTS.
11:26:50AM SO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL TITLE SEARCH ON EACH ONE OF THOSE.
11:26:53AM THAT'S HOW -- WHY WE BELIEVE WE IDENTIFIED THE REQUISITE
11:26:59AM TITLE DOCUMENTS TO TELL YOU WE THINK THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM
11:27:04AM WITH HYDE PARK WALK.
11:27:05AM NOW, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING IS BEING DONE IN
11:27:08AM HYDE PARK WALK THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
11:27:10AM PERHAPS THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF HYDE PARK CONDO
11:27:14AM ASSOCIATION FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION THAT COULD SPEAK
11:27:16AM TO THAT.
11:27:17AM ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION
11:27:19AM TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMETHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE PLAT THAT'S
11:27:23AM ATTACHED TO THE CONDO DECLARATIONS AND FROM THE FIGURE
11:27:27AM THAT'S NOW BEING PRESUPPOSED AS SUPPORTING THOSE
11:27:30AM CALCULATIONS.
11:27:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DID ANYBODY DO A COUNT OF THE EXISTING

11:27:36AM PARKING SPACES?
11:27:37AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON EITHER THE SITE
11:27:40AM PLAN OR THE DOCUMENTS.
11:27:43AM DID ANYBODY ON YOUR TEAM OR ANYONE ELSE INVOLVED WITH THIS
11:27:47AM DO A COUNT OF THE SPACES THEMSELVES?
11:27:50AM >> NO.
11:27:50AM NO.
11:27:51AM WE THINK THAT'S THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY.
11:27:55AM AND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR SHOULD CONSIDER THAT.
11:27:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THEY ALSO WENT BY DOCUMENTS, THE SITE PLAN
11:28:01AM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:28:03AM BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD US.
11:28:05AM YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO DO SOMETHING YOU
11:28:10AM DIDN'T DO YOURSELF.
11:28:11AM I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE --
11:28:13AM >> BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HYDE PARK WALK.
11:28:18AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETING DOCUMENTS THEN
11:28:21AM IS WHAT I'M SAYING AS OPPOSED TO ACTUAL REAL PARKING SPACES
11:28:23AM AND KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
11:28:24AM >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE OWNERS' MATERIALS.
11:28:25AM I ASSUME I WILL IN A MINUTE.
11:28:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT NO ONE HAS
11:28:31AM COUNTED THIS.
11:28:31AM BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION MARK AT THE END AND WE'RE
11:28:33AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT COMPETING DOCUMENTS, THAT'S ONE THING.

11:28:35AM IF WE HAD A NUMBER AS TO WHAT THE REAL NUMBER OF PARKING
11:28:37AM SPACES ARE, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
11:28:40AM >> IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC COUNT OF THE STRIPED SPACES, BUT
11:28:43AM THEN YOU'D HAVE TO BE SURE BECAUSE -- NOT TO BELABOR THIS
11:28:47AM POINT -- BUT THE HYDE PARK WALK DECLARATION HAS AN ATTACHED
11:28:53AM SITE PLAN THAT HAS NUMBERED PARKING SPACES ON IT FROM ONE TO
11:28:56AM I THINK ABOUT 134.
11:28:57AM THEN THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF PARKING SPACES SHOWN.
11:29:01AM IF THOSE PARKING SPACES AREN'T ACTUALLY STRIPED THE WAY THEY
11:29:04AM ARE IN THE DECLARATION, SEEMS THAT WOULD BE A TITLE PROBLEM
11:29:07AM AS WELL AS A ZONING.
11:29:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROBLEMS
11:29:10AM THAT MIGHT EXIST LEGALLY FOR THIS IF THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING
11:29:13AM THAT PARTICULAR SPACE.
11:29:15AM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:29:16AM I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF ANYONE HAD DONE A COUNT.
11:29:19AM >> NO SPECIFIC ON-SITE COUNT.
11:29:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:29:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:29:24AM ALL RIGHT.
11:29:32AM APPLICANT.
11:29:32AM >> MARILYN HEALY, AKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, SUITE
11:29:37AM 1700, REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER,
11:29:43AM COMMONLY KNOWN TO YOU ALL AS WS DEVELOPMENT.
11:29:48AM FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A FEW HANDOUTS,

11:29:52AM WHICH IS BASICALLY THE APPROVED SITE PLAN, THE PARKING
11:29:56AM CALCULATION CHARTS FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL.
11:29:58AM I ALSO INCLUDED THE PARKING COUNTS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL EVEN
11:30:02AM THOUGH IT'S OUR POSITION THAT THAT ISN'T RELEVANT HERE, BUT
11:30:06AM I'LL GO INTO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES, AND MY PLANNER, SUSAN
11:30:13AM FINCH, HER RESUMÉ AND A RECENT LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT JUST
11:30:15AM CAME IN WHICH MAY NOT BE A PART OF YOUR INFORMATION.
11:30:20AM YOU HEARD A LOT OF NUMBERS, CONFUSING STUFF AND THIS VILLAGE
11:30:25AM AND THAT VILLAGE.
11:30:27AM IT'S CONFUSING, BUT A LOT OF IT IS INCORRECT.
11:30:30AM SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'RE IN AN
11:30:34AM APPELLATE POSITION AT THE MOMENT TO REVIEW THE MATTER UNDER
11:30:37AM THE LEGAL STANDARDS THAT MS. KERT AND MR. SHELBY SET FORTH
11:30:46AM EARLIER TODAY.
11:30:47AM NUMBER ONE, THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO
11:30:49AM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH IS Z
11:30:52AM 06-71, ALONG WITH THE EXPRESSED CONDITIONS STATED THEREIN,
11:30:59AM WHICH ALLOWED BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
11:31:03AM THE PD ZONING CATEGORY ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY IN DEVELOPMENT
11:31:08AM STANDARDS UNDER CERTAIN DEFINED CIRCUMSTANCES.
11:31:11AM AND SET FORTH IN THE ALLOWED COMMERCIAL USES.
11:31:15AM THE PLAN ALSO HAS A SPECIFIC SHARED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS CHART
11:31:21AM TO BE UTILIZED WHEN THE MIX OF USES ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED.
11:31:26AM IT HAS AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN CRITERIA.
11:31:30AM IT'S GOT FLEXIBILITY IN THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN CRITERIA AND

11:31:34AM THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SAME.
11:31:38AM WHAT IT DOESN'T DO IS REQUIRE THE ACTUAL BUILD-OUT OF
11:31:41AM EVERYTHING ON THE PLAN OR REQUIRE ISSUES WITH OTHER
11:31:45AM SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE NOT PART OF THE PLAN.
11:31:48AM NUMBER TWO, THE PROPERTY IN THE PD ZONING PLAN IS THE ONLY
11:31:54AM PROPERTY THAT THE CITY CONSIDERS WHEN LOOKING AT THE CHANGE
11:31:59AM OF USES ON THAT PARTICULAR PD.
11:32:02AM THEY DON'T GO TO ANOTHER PLAN DOWN THE STREET.
11:32:05AM THEY DON'T GO TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES IF IT'S NOT A
11:32:09AM CONDITION.
11:32:10AM THAT'S JUST THE NORMAL WAY THAT YOU DO THAT.
11:32:13AM THAT'S WHAT THE CITY CODE REQUIRES.
11:32:14AM IN OUR SITUATION, THE ONLY PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THERE ARE
11:32:19AM BLOCK A, B, C, D, E, F-1 AND H.
11:32:24AM IN THE PETITIONER'S ANALYSIS, THEY INCLUDE BLOCK I, HYDE
11:32:31AM PARK WALK, WHICH IS 146 UNITS, HYDE PARK RESIDENTIAL, CE-T,
11:32:37AM 14 UNITS, AND HYDE PARK CONDO F-T-8 UNITS.
11:32:42AM AND THEY SAY IF THEY DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING IN
11:32:46AM THERE.
11:32:46AM WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING IN THERE
11:32:48AM EITHER.
11:32:49AM IT'S NOT PART OF OUR PD.
11:32:50AM WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT, AS FAR AS OUR PD GOES.
11:32:54AM SO SECTION 27-1387 ALLOWS THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE
11:33:01AM CHANGES AND ALLOW CHANGES TO APPROVED PD SITE PLANS WHEN THE

11:33:06AM DRC REVIEWS AND CONCURS WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND SAYS
11:33:11AM THAT IT IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
11:33:14AM WE FILED FOR A DETERMINATION ON BLOCK D WHERE THE WEST ELM
11:33:23AM IS AND L.A. FITNESS WAS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY TAKE
11:33:27AM THAT SPACE, LIKE MS. FEELEY LOOKED AT AND SHOWED YOU, AND
11:33:30AM WE'RE CUTTING IT UP AND HAVING A DIFFERENT TENANT MIX.
11:33:33AM IN THAT MIX, THEY ARE ALL ALLOWED COMMERCIAL USES THAT WERE
11:33:39AM ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN THE PD.
11:33:42AM SO WHAT WS HAS TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, I'VE GOT TENANT A, TENANT
11:33:46AM B, TENANT C, TENANT D, THESE ARE THE REQUIRED PARKING
11:33:50AM STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH SPECIFICALLY IN THAT CHART.
11:33:54AM AND HERE THEY ARE.
11:33:54AM SO WE PROVIDED THAT TO MS. FEELEY.
11:33:57AM THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGE TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING
11:34:04AM AND NO CHANGE TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES WHICH ARE BLOCKS E AND
11:34:08AM F, WHICH ARE THE HOMES OVER LULU LEMON AND THEN ON THE OTHER
11:34:14AM SIDE.
11:34:14AM JUST NO CHANGE.
11:34:15AM SO SHE'S NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REQUEST
11:34:19AM A CHANGE FOR THAT, AND WE HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED PARKING
11:34:22AM NEEDED.
11:34:23AM YOU WILL SEE OUR CHART ON TAB 5 OF THE HANDOUT.
11:34:28AM WE DID IT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
11:34:31AM WE HAD EXTRA PARKING FOR THEM, AND YOU-ALL SHOPPED THERE.
11:34:34AM YOU KNOW IT'S SEGMENTED OFF BY GATES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

11:34:38AM SO WE RESPECTFULLY HOPE THAT YOU UPHOLD MS. FEELEY'S
11:34:44AM DECISION.
11:34:44AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR LAND PLANNER, SUSAN FINCH,
11:34:48AM AGAIN TO GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA FOR YOU BECAUSE THIS IS AN
11:34:51AM APPEAL, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITY REACHED THE RIGHT
11:34:55AM DECISION.
11:34:55AM MS. FINCH.
11:35:01AM >> SUSAN FINCH.
11:35:03AM ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER.
11:35:04AM AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:35:05AM I HAVE BEEN A LAND USE PLANNER FOR THE LAST 29 YEARS AND I
11:35:09AM AM CERTIFIED BY THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED
11:35:12AM PLANNERS.
11:35:12AM I REVIEWED THE APPLICATION FOR THE REVIEW OF THE SUBSTANTIAL
11:35:17AM CHANGE DETERMINATION OF THE HYDE PARK VILLAGE BLOCK D THAT
11:35:21AM MS. HEALY DESCRIBED, WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT Z 06-71.
11:35:26AM A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AS SHE DESCRIBED IS A SITE-SPECIFIC
11:35:30AM ZONING DISTRICT, GOVERNED BY THE GRAPHIC ON THE GENERAL SITE
11:35:34AM PLAN AND THE NOTES ON THE PLAN.
11:35:37AM THOSE ARE THE RULES WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THAT PLANNED
11:35:40AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:35:41AM LET ME READ TO YOU ONE OF THE NOTES.
11:35:43AM I WON'T READ ALL OF THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY.
11:35:45AM NOTE NUMBER 7 IS PARTICULARLY APPLICABLE TO THIS DISCUSSION.
11:35:50AM IT READS, ADEQUATE PARKING FOR EACH USE IN ACCORDANCE WITH

11:35:53AM THE SHARED PARKING FORMULA SET FORTH IN THE TRANSPORTATION
11:35:57AM ANALYSIS SHALL BE IN PLACE COINCIDENT, COINCIDENT BEING THE
11:36:03AM KEYWORD, WITH THE GRANTING OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ON
11:36:06AM EACH BUILDING.
11:36:07AM SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY SQUARE
11:36:12AM FOOT, EVERY UNIT APPROVED IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:36:16AM YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE A PARKING SPACE FOR
11:36:18AM DEVELOPMENT AS IT COMES IN.
11:36:20AM IT'S A SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT.
11:36:23AM THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
11:36:24AM MS. FEELEY DESCRIBED IT.
11:36:25AM EACH AND EVERY TIME A NEW MIX OF TENANTS COMES IN,
11:36:29AM MS. FEELEY REVIEWS THAT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE APPLICATION.
11:36:35AM TRANSPORTATION SECTION REVIEWS IT, AND EVERY OTHER MEMBER OF
11:36:38AM THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWS IT AGAINST THE
11:36:41AM NOTED CONDITIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:36:45AM IF THEY MEET IT, IF THEY DON'T TRIGGER THE SUBSTANTIAL
11:36:48AM CHANGE CRITERIA THAT'S IN SECTION 27, THEN IT'S DETERMINED
11:36:52AM TO BE NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:36:54AM AND THAT IS THE CASE WITH THE APPLICATION THAT WS
11:36:58AM DEVELOPMENT APPLIED FOR FOR BLOCK D.
11:37:03AM THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A SHARED PARKING ANALYSIS, AS I
11:37:05AM MENTIONED.
11:37:06AM AND THAT SHARED PARKING ANALYSIS LOOKED AT ALL OF THE
11:37:08AM NONRESIDENTIAL USES PROPOSED THROUGH THE CHANGE IN BLOCK D

11:37:13AM AND EVERY OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL USE IN ALL OF THE HYDE PARK
11:37:16AM VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
11:37:19AM IT DETERMINED THAT ON THE MOST NUMBER OF SPACES AT ANY GIVEN
11:37:24AM TIME, GIVEN THE MIX OF USES, 972 SPACES WERE REQUIRED.
11:37:28AM 993 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
11:37:33AM SO THEY ARE EXCEEDING WHAT IS EXPECTED.
11:37:37AM THE DEMAND WILL BE GIVEN THE CURRENT USE OF TENANTS.
11:37:40AM RESIDENTIAL SPACES, AS MS. HEALY STATED, WERE NOT REVIEWED
11:37:44AM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS REQUEST.
11:37:48AM BLOCK D DOESN'T HAVE RESIDENTIAL.
11:37:50AM IT CAN'T HAVE RESIDENTIAL.
11:37:52AM WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY NEW RESIDENTIAL, SO IT WASN'T INCLUDED
11:37:55AM IN THE REQUEST.
11:37:56AM WHAT WE APPLIED FOR WAS THE NONRESIDENTIAL MIX OF UNITS.
11:37:59AM THAT'S IT.
11:38:01AM THE PETITIONER'S ANALYSIS OF THE HYDE PARK VILLAGE
11:38:06AM APPLICATION IS, FRANKLY, INCORRECT.
11:38:12AM IT STATES THAT ALL OF THE SPACES FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT MUST
11:38:12AM BE PROVIDED.
11:38:08AM IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
11:38:13AM NOTE NUMBER 7, IT'S COINCIDENT WITH THE CERTIFICATES OF
11:38:18AM OCCUPANCY FOR EACH USE AS IT COMES IN.
11:38:20AM THAT'S HOW YOU PROVIDE PARKING.
11:38:21AM IT INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIES THE NUMBER OF SPACES FOR THREE
11:38:25AM BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, YOU ALREADY

11:38:27AM IDENTIFIED.
11:38:27AM IT INCORRECTLY STATES THAT HYDE PARK VILLAGE CONTAINS FIVE
11:38:31AM CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS.
11:38:32AM IT DOES NOT.
11:38:33AM I'M GOING TO JUST PUT UP A GRAPHIC REAL QUICK AND PARDON MY
11:38:37AM HANDWRITING.
11:38:38AM THIS IS THE HYDE PARK VILLAGE PD.
11:38:41AM YOU'LL SEE THIS HEAVY LINE HERE, HERE, HERE.
11:38:45AM MY HANDWRITTEN NOTES ARE THE THREE PROJECTS THAT PETITIONER
11:38:49AM INCLUDED THAT ARE NOT IN THE HYDE PARK PD.
11:38:53AM THAT WHOLE CHART, THREE OF THOSE FIVE PROJECTS AREN'T IN
11:38:56AM THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
11:38:57AM NOT RELEVANT.
11:39:00AM THEREFORE, THE PREMISE IS WRONG.
11:39:02AM HIS PREMISE IS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO
11:39:04AM PROVIDE A SPACE FOR EVERY ENTITLEMENT APPROVED UNDER THAT
11:39:09AM 06-71 ZONING.
11:39:10AM YOU ONLY HAVE TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR WHAT YOU'RE DEVELOPING.
11:39:13AM THAT'S IT.
11:39:14AM THE APPLICATION FOR THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE DETERMINATION
11:39:18AM DOES NOT TRIGGER ANY OF CHAPTER 27 CRITERIA CONSIDERED TO BE
11:39:21AM A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:39:23AM THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
11:39:25AM APPLICATION AND FOUND THAT IT WAS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:39:28AM AND FINALLY, I REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION IN COMPLIANCE WITH

11:39:32AM CHAPTER 27-138.7.
11:39:34AM AND IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT I AGREE THAT THE
11:39:37AM CITY'S FINDING THAT THE APPLICATION IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL
11:39:40AM CHANGE IS CORRECT.
11:39:41AM THANK YOU.
11:39:47AM >> THAT ENDS OUR PRESENTATION.
11:39:48AM AND WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:39:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:39:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MS. FINCH, LET ME ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION.
11:39:56AM I'M LOOKING AT THE INITIAL PARKING ANALYSIS THAT WAS
11:39:58AM PRESENTED TO US PREVIOUSLY.
11:40:00AM THE 1,315 THAT THEY ARE SAYING IS REQUIRED OF THE PROJECT,
11:40:06AM THAT DIFFERENTIAL, THE 993 THAT YOU MENTIONED IS ACTUALLY
11:40:09AM PROVIDED AS SHARED SPACES.
11:40:11AM THERE IS A 322 DIFFERENTIAL.
11:40:14AM SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT BASED ON YOUR ANALYSIS OF
11:40:18AM THOSE OTHER PIECES THAT YOU SAY ARE NOT PART OF THE SITE
11:40:22AM PLAN, THAT PROBABLY -- I'M JUST GUESSING, MIGHT ADD UP TO
11:40:26AM THE 322.
11:40:27AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:40:27AM BUT I'M JUST TO SUGGEST.
11:40:29AM >> I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.
11:40:32AM GO BACK TO THE APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
11:40:35AM WITHIN THE DARK LINE IS THE HYDE PARK VILLAGE PD.
11:40:38AM IF YOU COULD READ THE FINE PRINT ON EACH BLOCK, IT TELLS YOU

11:40:43AM WHAT EACH BLOCK IS APPROVED FOR, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF
11:40:46AM COMMERCIAL, HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THE ASSOCIATED
11:40:50AM PARKING SPACES FOR ALL OF THAT ENTITLEMENT.
11:40:53AM HE ADDED ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND GOT 1315 SPACES.
11:40:58AM THEN HE TOOK OUR ANALYSIS THAT SAID AT ANY GIVEN TIME, GIVEN
11:41:02AM THE CURRENT MIX OF USES, WE NEED 972 SPACES.
11:41:06AM HE SUBTRACTED 1315.
11:41:08AM SUBTRACTED 972 FROM 1315 AND GOT TO 322.
11:41:13AM IT'S A FLAWED ANALYSIS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE RULES OF THE
11:41:17AM PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
11:41:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BASED ON THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, DID YOU ALL
11:41:22AM DO A PHYSICAL COUNT OF THOSE SPACES?
11:41:24AM AND THAT IS THE 993.
11:41:26AM I JUST WANT TO ASK IF YOU DID.
11:41:29AM >> I DIDN'T PERSONALLY.
11:41:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD.
11:41:32AM I WASN'T SURE IF SHE DID OR YOU DID.
11:41:35AM MS. HEALY.
11:41:36AM >> YES, WE DID.
11:41:38AM WE HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY TIME.
11:41:40AM WE KEEP A RUNNING CHART OF THAT.
11:41:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE TOTAL YOU HAVE FOR THE PD THAT IS BEFORE
11:41:45AM US IS 993.
11:41:47AM >> THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED, 972 THAT'S REQUIRED.
11:41:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: GOT IT.

11:41:54AM THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT.
11:41:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:41:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S YOUR POSITION ON THOSE
11:42:02AM THREE CONDOMINIUMS, IT'S IRRELEVANT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES
11:42:06AM ARE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT GOES INTO YOUR
11:42:09AM CALCULATION.
11:42:11AM >> EXACTLY.
11:42:11AM EXACTLY.
11:42:12AM IT'S NOT PART OF OUR PD.
11:42:13AM I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY.
11:42:17AM WELL, MAYBE I AM, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
11:42:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PETITIONER, DO YOU WANT TO REBUT?
11:42:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE GO DOWN THE LIST AT THIS POINT IN
11:42:30AM TIME.
11:42:31AM NUMBER 9.
11:42:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
11:42:37AM THIS ISSUE?
11:42:37AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
11:42:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD REMIND THOSE WHO
11:42:44AM ARE SPEAKING, IF YOU CAN BE SURE TO DISCLOSE ANY DIRECT OR
11:42:49AM INDIRECT BUSINESS OR PERSONAL INTEREST THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN
11:42:52AM THIS ISSUE.
11:42:53AM THANK YOU.
11:42:53AM >> MY NAME IS RANDY MOSES, 1641 WEST SNOW CIRCLE.
11:43:00AM MY CONDO IS LOCATED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF HYDE PARK

11:43:02AM VILLAGE.
11:43:03AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL.
11:43:08AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT HYDE PARK VILLAGE HAS CHANGED
11:43:13AM SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
11:43:14AM I BELIEVE THAT THE POINT OF DIMINISHING RETURNS HAS BEEN
11:43:20AM REACHED.
11:43:20AM LAST NIGHT ON A CHILLY TUESDAY NIGHT, THE PARKING IN THE
11:43:28AM GARAGE WHERE I PARK, WHICH IS C, WAS FILLED HALFWAY TO THE
11:43:32AM ROOF.
11:43:33AM IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS THE ENTIRE GARAGE WAS FILLED AND HALF
11:43:36AM THE ROOF.
11:43:37AM THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF ACTION ON THE PATIOS.
11:43:40AM THERE WAS ON THE STREET PEOPLE DOUBLE PARKED, PARKED IN
11:43:43AM ILLEGAL SPACES.
11:43:44AM AND WE'RE TALKING NOW ABOUT NOT ONLY A, QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
11:43:52AM SMALL RESTAURANT WHERE L.A. FITNESS, BUT TALKING ABOUT A
11:43:55AM MEAT MARKET COMING ON STREAM AND ITALIAN RESTAURANT AT THE
11:43:59AM SOUTH END.
11:43:59AM MANY HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
11:44:02AM THE NATURE OF THESE TYPE OF TENANTS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM
11:44:07AM THE GYM AND THE RETAIL.
11:44:08AM THIS USED TO BE A RETAIL CENTER WITH SOME RESTAURANTS.
11:44:12AM IT IS NOW AN ENTERTAINMENT CENTER.
11:44:14AM AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR
11:44:20AM THE RESIDENTS, BOTH WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND AROUND US.

11:44:25AM IT WAS UP TO A CERTAIN POINT.
11:44:26AM WE'RE WAY BEYOND THAT NOW.
11:44:28AM THIS TALK ABOUT WHETHER THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES
11:44:33AM SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE OVERALL -- AS PART OF
11:44:38AM THE OVERALL APPLICATION PROCESS HERE, I THINK IS FLAWED.
11:44:44AM THERE ARE A FINITE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IN THESE GARAGES
11:44:47AM AND LOTS.
11:44:48AM IF THERE IS A MISTAKE OR A MISCALCULATION IN THE AMOUNT OF
11:44:53AM RESIDENTIAL, IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT NEEDS MORE, THEN IT MEANS
11:44:56AM THAT THE COMMERCIAL HAS LESS.
11:44:59AM I THINK THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS THAT THERE'S BEEN A
11:45:02AM SERIES OF FINDINGS WHERE THERE ARE NOT SUBSTANTIAL USES, BUT
11:45:06AM AT SOME POINT, A SERIES OF NOT SUBSTANTIAL USES BECOMES A
11:45:11AM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, JUST BY THE NUMBER OF THEM.
11:45:14AM AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY HAS PULLED BACK AND LOOKED
11:45:18AM AT THIS WHOLE THING, GIVEN THE CHANGING NATURE.
11:45:21AM IT'S BECOMING AN ENTERTAINMENT CENTER.
11:45:22AM IT'S BECOMING WHAT THE YBOR OR WHAT CHANNELSIDE UP FRONT
11:45:26AM WAS, AND I BELIEVE THAT WS IS GETTING TO THAT SAME PLACE BY
11:45:34AM WHAT I CALL THE SALAMI APPROACH.
11:45:36AM YOU DON'T DEAL WITH THE WHOLE THING AT ONCE, BUT WHEN YOU
11:45:40AM START SLICING UP THE SALAMI, AT THE END YOU WIND UP WITH THE
11:45:44AM WHOLE SALAMI.
11:45:45AM I CAN TELL YOU IT IS A BIG NEGATIVE.
11:45:48AM I SEE CARS PARKED OVER PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS.

11:45:51AM THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT HAS A BEAUTIFUL CENTER IN
11:45:53AM THE MIDDLE OF IT.
11:45:54AM AND WE ARE NOT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE, AT LEAST
11:46:01AM TO STEP BACK AND TREAT THIS AS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:46:05AM AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH IN THE FINAL
11:46:08AM ITERATION OF WHAT THIS PLACE WILL BE.
11:46:10AM THEY HAVE TENANT SPACES MARKED OUT.
11:46:13AM I THINK THAT WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND SEE, DOES THIS WHOLE
11:46:15AM THING WORK.
11:46:16AM BECAUSE WHETHER THERE ARE 20 SPACES LEFT IN THEIR
11:46:19AM CALCULATION, AS THEY SAY, MORE OR LESS, THERE ARE HUNDREDS
11:46:23AM OF RESTAURANT PATRON SPACES IN THE PIPELINE.
11:46:30AM IT'S NOT WORKING.
11:46:30AM THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING.
11:46:32AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:46:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
11:46:40AM >> SHAWN LANCE, 801 SOUTH ROME AVENUE.
11:46:42AM CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
11:46:46AM CLOSER, NONCOMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT'S TAKING PLACE DOWN
11:46:49AM THERE.
11:46:50AM SO, OBVIOUSLY, HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT.
11:46:53AM I'M PRO EVERYTHING THAT WS HAS DONE SO FAR.
11:46:56AM THEY TRANSFORMED THIS VILLAGE.
11:46:58AM UNFORTUNATELY, THERE MIGHT BE SOME PUSH-BACK FROM AREA
11:47:01AM RESIDENCES BECAUSE THERE IS TRANSFORMATION TAKING PLACE, YOU

11:47:05AM KNOW, IT SEEMS TO BE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT THE PD IS
11:47:09AM AND THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR.
11:47:11AM THE GROUP THAT IS PROTESTING THE CHANGES, I FEEL THEY ARE
11:47:18AM DOING IT OUT OF SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL SHAKEDOWN.
11:47:21AM THEY HAVE TRIED TO RENT AND SELL THE CONDO UNIT AT MARKET
11:47:26AM PRICES THAT ARE ABOVE MARKET PRICES THAT REALLY AREN'T
11:47:29AM SUPPORTED.
11:47:30AM I'VE TRANSACTED MORE THAN 8,000 CONDOMINIUM UNITS IN FLORIDA
11:47:33AM SINCE 2010.
11:47:34AM I'VE OWNED UNITS IN HYDE PARK WALK, SO IT'S AN AREA THAT I'M
11:47:38AM AN EXPERT IN.
11:47:39AM BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT CHANGE IS INEVITABLE.
11:47:42AM TAMPA IS GOING THROUGH A RENAISSANCE.
11:47:45AM HYDE PARK VILLAGE IS UNDERGOING A RENAISSANCE.
11:47:48AM MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE
11:47:50AM CITY AND FOR THE AREA.
11:47:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
11:48:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:48:01AM MY NAME IS HERB GOULD.
11:48:02AM I LIVE AT 713 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE IN TAMPA.
11:48:07AM THE OREGON AVENUE THAT YOU SAW ON THE SLIDES IS WHERE WE
11:48:13AM LIVE.
11:48:13AM WE ARE A PART OF THE VILLAGE.
11:48:16AM THERE ARE FOUR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS INVOLVED WITH HYDE
11:48:20AM PARK VILLAGE.

11:48:21AM I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
11:48:25AM I LIVED THERE 20 YEARS WITH MY WIFE.
11:48:27AM THE WIFE IS THE PRESIDENT.
11:48:31AM AS FAR AS WHAT WS IS DOING IS THEY ARE BRINGING BACK HYDE
11:48:34AM PARK VILLAGE TO WHAT IT ONCE WAS.
11:48:37AM AS I SAID, I LIVED THERE FOR 20 YEARS, PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS
11:48:41AM INVOLVED WITH THE CACTUS CLUB.
11:48:43AM THAT WAS PART OF HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:48:45AM SOME OF YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
11:48:49AM CACTUS CLUB WAS.
11:48:50AM IT WAS A TREMENDOUS PLACE.
11:48:53AM NOT THE CACTUS CLUB, BUT THE VILLAGE ITSELF.
11:48:56AM IT WAS FOR FAMILIES.
11:48:58AM IT IS NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT SECTION.
11:49:00AM IT IS NOT A SOUTH HOWARD.
11:49:02AM IT IS NOT AN YBOR CITY.
11:49:05AM IT IS NOT THE ENTERTAINMENT SECTION.
11:49:07AM IT IS A MIXED DEVELOPMENT.
11:49:12AM YOU HAVE SOME ENTERTAINMENT.
11:49:13AM YOU HAVE BUSINESSES, YOU HAVE LAW OFFICES, REAL ESTATE
11:49:17AM OFFICES COMING IN.
11:49:17AM WS IS BRINGING IT BACK TO THE VIBRANT THAT IT WAS.
11:49:23AM IT'S A JEWEL IN TAMPA'S CROWN.
11:49:27AM IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT MAGAZINES AROUND THE
11:49:30AM COUNTRY, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT FLORIDA, THEY TALK ABOUT

11:49:33AM TAMPA.
11:49:34AM THEY TALK ABOUT HYDE PARK VILLAGE ALSO.
11:49:36AM THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE FIRST, YES, HE DOES HAVE A CONDO.
11:49:42AM HE HASN'T LIVED IN IT IN QUITE SOME TIME.
11:49:45AM SO AS FAR AS IT BEING DISTURBED, WHEN HE BOUGHT THE CONDO,
11:49:52AM HE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A RESTAURANT ADJACENT TO HIS CONDO.
11:49:58AM THAT SPACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A RESTAURANT.
11:50:01AM IT WAS BONE SHAKERS.
11:50:02AM EVEN BEFORE THE VILLAGE WAS BUILT.
11:50:04AM THEN FRIDAY'S WENT IN.
11:50:09AM AFTER FRIDAY'S, IT WAS LAFEET, AND THEN IT WAS THE CACTUS
11:50:15AM CLUB.
11:50:16AM BUT IT'S STILL FAMILY ORIENTATED.
11:50:18AM IT IS NOT A SOUTH HOWARD.
11:50:20AM SO TO SAY IT'S AN ENTERTAINMENT SECTION, IT IS NOT.
11:50:25AM IT IS A MIXED DEVELOPMENT.
11:50:28AM WE LOVE IT THERE.
11:50:29AM AS I SAY, WE'VE BEEN THERE 20 YEARS.
11:50:32AM AND IT IS REALLY A GOOD PLACE.
11:50:36AM AND THERE ARE ONLY FOUR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE A
11:50:40AM PART OF IT.
11:50:41AM THANK YOU.
11:50:48AM >> HELLO.
11:50:48AM MY NAME IS MARY BRITTAIN.
11:50:50AM 840 SOUTH DAKOTA AVENUE.

11:50:52AM I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF HYDE PARK PRESERVATION, AND
11:50:55AM I'VE BEEN ASKED TO READ A STATEMENT FROM OUR BOARD IN
11:50:58AM SUPPORT OF WS DEVELOPMENT AND OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
11:51:01AM PRIOR DECISION.
11:51:02AM AND THIS IS IT.
11:51:03AM HYDE PARK PRESERVATION INC., THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
11:51:06AM ADJACENT TO HYDE PARK VILLAGE, THE SOUTHEAST SIDE HAS
11:51:10AM DISCUSSED THE CHANGES RELATED TO PDZ 06-71 AND THE PRIOR
11:51:15AM DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
11:51:16AM WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED USE CHANGES.
11:51:19AM THANK YOU.
11:51:23AM >> I'M MARY ESTHER PARKER, 805 SOUTH WILLOW, RESIDENT FOR
11:51:29AM ABOUT 45 YEARS.
11:51:30AM THE WS DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT THE FOURTH OR FIFTH OWNER OF
11:51:36AM HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:51:37AM THE OWNERS BEFORE, EXCEPT FOR AMALIE OF CANADA, DON'T SEEM
11:51:42AM TO HAVE A FORMULA FOR SUCCESS.
11:51:45AM THE CANADIAN ECONOMY WENT SOUTH ABOUT 75%, SO THEY SOLD.
11:51:49AM THE IMMEDIATE PRIOR OWNERS WANT A ZONING CHANGE TO BUILD
11:51:53AM NINE STORIES ON SNOW AVENUE.
11:51:56AM NINE-STORY CONDOMINIUMS.
11:51:58AM THE NEW OWNERS, WS CORPORATION, CAME IN, THEY CHOSE THAT
11:52:05AM OPTION, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN DISASTROUS FOR US.
11:52:09AM IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE THE GREATEST THING GOING.
11:52:11AM THEY HAVE A FORMULA FOR MIXED USE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE

11:52:15AM SUCCESSFUL.
11:52:16AM A BALANCE OF RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, AND OFFICES, AND I THINK
11:52:21AM THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THEIR ORIGINAL
11:52:25AM PLAN.
11:52:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:52:31AM MS. CAPIN.
11:52:34AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:52:35AM I AGREE, SNOW AVENUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN MIXED USE, ALWAYS.
11:52:40AM I'M TALKING 1958, '59, MY PARENTS OWNED THE DRY CLEANERS
11:52:45AM WHERE CACTUS CLUB WAS.
11:52:47AM I WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD.
11:52:48AM IT WAS A FIVE AND DIME IN THE CORNER.
11:52:50AM THERE WAS A RESTAURANT.
11:52:51AM IT HAS ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEEN THAT.
11:52:52AM SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT THAT, AS YOU KNOW,
11:52:59AM YOU CAN FOLLOW WHERE I'M LEANING.
11:53:02AM ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
11:53:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
11:53:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MS. FEELEY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION?
11:53:12AM WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING SPACES AND WHO'S GOT
11:53:16AM WHAT AND PLAYING A LITTLE THREE-CARD MONTE TO FIND OUT
11:53:20AM WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE.
11:53:21AM MS. HEALY MADE A STATEMENT CONCERNING THE SPECIFIC PD THAT
11:53:26AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONCERNING SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
11:53:30AM AND SHE MENTIONED THOSE OTHER -- OR MS. FINCH DID, THE OTHER

11:53:34AM BLOCKS THAT ARE IN THERE, AND SHE OPINED THAT THOSE BLOCKS
11:53:38AM ARE WHAT WERE USED OR THEY SURMISED IT WAS USED FOR THE
11:53:42AM CALCULATION FOR THE PETITIONER COME FORWARD.
11:53:45AM I'M JUST ASKING, DID YOU LOOK AT THAT ANALYSIS?
11:53:48AM DID YOU DECIDE IS THAT A FACTUAL STATEMENT?
11:53:52AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:53:58AM THIS IS THE PD, AND I -- AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TWO
11:54:07AM SHADES.
11:54:09AM THE PETITIONER DID INCLUDE THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
11:54:17AM THOSE ARE NOT IN THE PD.
11:54:20AM I MARKED THOSE ON MY LITTLE WORK SHEET.
11:54:23AM I DON'T WANT TO SHOW YOU MY CHICKEN SCRATCH, BUT 34 UNITS --
11:54:27AM I MEAN, 8 UNITS, 34 SPACES HERE.
11:54:30AM 164 UNITS, 246 SPACES HERE.
11:54:33AM 7 UNITS, 14 SPACES, 7 UNITS, 14 SPACES.
11:54:37AM THOSE ARE ALL NOT INCLUDED.
11:54:38AM IN THE PD.
11:54:41AM WHAT IS INCLUDED, F, NINE DWELLING UNITS AND E, SEVEN
11:54:59AM DWELLING UNITS.
11:55:00AM 16 UNITS.
11:55:01AM WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD THE PETITIONER SAY WAS THERE'S 18
11:55:06AM SPACES AVAILABLE HERE AND 18 SPACES AVAILABLE HERE, WHICH IS
11:55:09AM 36 SPACES.
11:55:10AM PER MY CALCULATION, BASED ON THE 16, THERE'S ONLY 34 SPACES
11:55:14AM REQUIRED.

11:55:15AM SO IF HE SAYS THERE'S 36 OUT THERE, WONDERFUL.
11:55:20AM I HAD MS. MOREDA GO OUT AND COUNT, SINCE I WANTED TO REMIND
11:55:26AM IMPARTIAL TO THIS REVIEW, AND WE COUNTED -- SHE COUNTED THAT
11:55:31AM THERE WAS 18 AND 16, WHICH PER MY MATH IS 34, WHICH IS WHAT
11:55:37AM THEY ARE REQUIRED.
11:55:38AM AND THEY ARE WITHIN GATED CONDITIONS.
11:55:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MY QUESTION WAS MORE SPECIFIC TO THAT WHEN WE
11:55:45AM MAKE THIS DECISION, OR WHETHER IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL OR
11:55:49AM NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, IT IS ONLY ON THAT PD THAT IS
11:55:53AM HIGHLIGHTED IN THE DARK BLACK LINE THAT WAS THERE.
11:55:58AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS CONFIRMING WHAT MS. HEALY HAD
11:56:01AM SAID.
11:56:02AM AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID.
11:56:03AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:56:04AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:56:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE, AND A LOT OF
11:56:19AM MY CHILDHOOD TOOK PLACE IN HYDE PARK.
11:56:19AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY EARLIEST MEMORY MUST HAVE BEEN 1992
11:56:19AM BECAUSE MY MOTHER ON SATURDAYS WOULD TAKE MY SISTER AND I TO
11:56:22AM THE MOVIE THEATER.
11:56:23AM IT WAS AN AMC MOVIE THEATER AT THE TIME.
11:56:26AM AND THERE WAS A DEPARTMENT STORE ON THIS BLOCK HERE CALLED
11:56:28AM JACOBSON'S, WHICH WAS ALWAYS REALLY BUSY.
11:56:31AM I REMEMBER THE RESTAURANTS, THE LAYOUT, THE CACTUS CLUB AND
11:56:34AM GOING THERE AND WHATNOT.

11:56:35AM BUT WHAT I REMEMBER MOST IS HOW BUSY HYDE PARK WAS.
11:56:39AM YOU'D GO ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.
11:56:40AM I'M THINKING MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS A LITTLE LATER ON, IT WAS
11:56:46AM PACKED, FULL.
11:56:47AM PROBABLY BUSIER THAN WHAT YOU SEE IT NOW.
11:56:49AM I DON'T THINK IT'S REACHED MAXIMUM CAPACITY AS WHAT I
11:56:53AM REMEMBER.
11:56:54AM AFTER 2001, AFTER THE ECONOMY CHANGED AND WHATNOT AND THINGS
11:56:56AM IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE CHANGED, A LOT OF BUSINESSES CLOSED AND
11:57:00AM MOVED OUT AND MANY YEARS IT SAT EMPTY.
11:57:02AM I REMEMBER WALKING THROUGH, MAYBE VISITING A RESTAURANT, I
11:57:05AM THINK IT WAS SAMBA ROOM AT THE TIME, AND THINKING I WISH IT
11:57:09AM WAS LIKE IT USED TO BE WHEN I WAS A KID.
11:57:12AM SUCH GREAT REAL ESTATE AND SUCH A GREAT HISTORIC
11:57:15AM NEIGHBORHOOD, I WISH IT WOULD COME BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO
11:57:18AM BE.
11:57:18AM IN THE PAST YEARS, WITH GOODY-GOODY AND WHATNOT AND ALL THE
11:57:22AM CHANGES COMING IN, WE'VE SEEN WHAT HYDE PARK, AT LEAST WHAT
11:57:27AM I REMEMBER IT.
11:57:28AM TO SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGING OR THE VILLAGE IS
11:57:30AM CHANGING, IT'S GOING BACK TO WHAT I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS AT
11:57:35AM ITS PEAK.
11:57:38AM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD.
11:57:39AM BUT I SEE THIS AS -- THIS IS GOING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS
11:57:44AM INTENDED TO BE AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S HAPPENING.

11:57:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
11:57:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:57:52AM YOU KNOW, GOING BACK, I REMEMBER SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL IN
11:57:56AM THE CHAIR MR. VIERA HAS NOW WITH SANDY FREEDMAN, JAN PLATT,
11:58:00AM DWIGHT COPELAND, MYSELF AND OTHERS.
11:58:02AM AND THIS ROOM WAS PACKED.
11:58:04AM I MEAN PACKED.
11:58:05AM STANDING ROOM ONLY, NOT ONCE, BUT MANY TIMES BECAUSE
11:58:08AM ORIGINALLY BACK, THIS STARTED IN THE '70s.
11:58:12AM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS LED BY A YOUNG LADY
11:58:15AM NAMED MILDRED DETNICE.
11:58:18AM MILDRED AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE UP IN ARMS CONSIDERING WHEN
11:58:22AM THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING IN.
11:58:24AM AND WE HAD MEETING AFTER MEETING AFTER MEETINGS.
11:58:27AM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS WORKED OUT THAT THE FIRST
11:58:31AM DEVELOPMENT CAME THROUGH PROVIDING THAT THE HOUSES TO THE
11:58:35AM WEST, THE LITTLE HOUSES THAT WERE ALL TOGETHER, ALL
11:58:38AM HISTORICAL, AND OTHERS THAT WERE HISTORICAL, WERE NEVER
11:58:41AM TOUCHED.
11:58:41AM THEY WERE NOT TOUCHED.
11:58:44AM SO LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN LIFE, IT COMES IN CIRCLES.
11:58:48AM YES, IT HAD ITS UPS.
11:58:52AM YES, IT HAD ITS DOWNS.
11:58:54AM WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS GOES DOWN, SO DOES
11:58:58AM THE VALUE OF EVERYTHING AROUND IT.

11:58:59AM AND IT HAPPENED AGAIN DURING THE '08 ERA.
11:59:03AM AND NOW IT'S COMING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY, AS I
11:59:07AM STATED EARLIER.
11:59:07AM IF PARKING IS THE ISSUE AND WE I GUESS PROVEN THAT THERE IS
11:59:14AM THE PARKING TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
11:59:17AM TALKING ABOUT IS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO MEET WHAT'S THERE
11:59:20AM TODAY, THEN I HAVE NO RESERVATION WHERE THIS IS GOING.
11:59:24AM CERTAINLY THERE'S BEEN CHANGES.
11:59:28AM CERTAINLY HAVE ADDED THINGS TO IT.
11:59:30AM BUT THINGS CHANGE.
11:59:32AM PEOPLE CHANGE.
11:59:33AM IDEAS CHANGE, AUTOMOBILES CHANGE.
11:59:36AM SOON YOU WILL BE DRIVING CARS YOU WON'T HEAR.
11:59:38AM YOU BETTER LOOK AROUND BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE
11:59:41AM ELECTRIC.
11:59:42AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE OUR ATTITUDE IN HOW WE WALK
11:59:44AM AND HOW WE SEE AND DO THINGS OR YOU'LL GET RUN OVER.
11:59:50AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS BEWARE OF WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS BECAUSE
11:59:53AM THIS IS A SETTING THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS CONDUCIVE TO
11:59:58AM SOMETHING THAT CAME BACK ORIGINALLY WHERE IT STARTED AND IT
12:00:04PM STARTED IN THIS FORM BACK IN THE MID '70s AND IMPLEMENTED
12:00:06PM IN THE EARLY '80s THE FIRST ONE.
12:00:09PM BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SPOKEN FOR AND
12:00:13PM AGAINST, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS HEARING
12:00:18PM TODAY.

12:00:18PM MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
12:00:19PM THANK YOU.
12:00:24PM >>HARRY COHEN: FIRST OF ALL, CAN I ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL --
12:00:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 30 MINUTES --
12:00:30PM >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I'M THINKING IS IT EVERYONE'S PLEASURE
12:00:32PM TO BREAK FOR LUNCH OR TO GO THROUGH?
12:00:37PM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET'S DO 30 MINUTES --
12:00:40PM >>HARRY COHEN: AND THEN SEE WHERE WE ARE.
12:00:41PM I MOVE FOR 30.
12:00:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:00:45PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:00:46PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING BY 30 MINUTES.
12:00:49PM WHO MADE THE MOTION?
12:00:52PM MR. COHEN.
12:00:53PM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:00:53PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:00:54PM LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND NOW.
12:00:57PM >>HARRY COHEN: LET ME JUST SAY VERY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT
12:01:02PM OF US HAVE WORKED VERY HARD OVER THESE PAST YEARS TO BRING
12:01:05PM HYDE PARK TO WHERE IT IS TODAY.
12:01:10PM THERE WAS A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT OF MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL
12:01:10PM WITH THESE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY CAME IN AND DID A VERY, VERY
12:01:13PM ITERATIVE -- THE WORD ITERATIVE PROCESS WAS USED, I BELIEVE,
12:01:16PM BY MS. FEELEY.
12:01:18PM BUT IT WAS REALLY AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS

12:01:22PM HYDE PARK WAS REDEVELOPED OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
12:01:25PM I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT THE REBIRTH OF THE COMMUNITY
12:01:33PM THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT BY THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS
12:01:36PM TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE REALLY PROUD OF,
12:01:39PM AND I THINK IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO THE
12:01:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:01:42PM WE ARE FACING A VERY NARROW QUESTION HERE, THOUGH.
12:01:49PM I MEAN, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN START COUNTING PARKING
12:01:53PM SPACES OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL PD IN THE ANALYSIS.
12:01:57PM SO MY SENSE OF IT IS WHEN -- WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE
12:02:00PM REBUTTAL, BUT MY SENSE OF IT IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
12:02:03PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ACTED CORRECTLY IN THE WAY THAT THEY
12:02:06PM APPLIED THE STANDARDS FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.
12:02:14PM >>FRANK REDDICK: AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO -- IF THERE'S ANY
12:02:18PM ADDITIONAL COMMENT FROM STAFF, WE'LL GO TO THE REBUTTAL.
12:02:21PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, ABBYE FEELEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
12:02:21PM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS JUST A COUPLE ITEMS.
12:02:25PM I THINK I ADDRESSED FOR YOU WHAT'S IN, WHAT'S OUT.
12:02:29PM ONE OTHER SCENARIO THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS ON BLOCK A AND H
12:02:34PM THERE IS ENTITLEMENT DOWN THE ROAD BUT THE ONE THING THAT
12:02:39PM MRS. FINCH TOUCHED ON IS WE ADOPT REQUIRE THAT UNTIL IT'S
12:02:44PM CONSTRUCTED SO H HAS SOME RESIDENTIAL.
12:02:46PM THE REDEVELOPMENT OF H WHICH CAME IN AS THE ONLY OTHER
12:02:49PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THIS.
12:02:50PM THAT WAS ANOTHER ITEM I HEARD THAT THERE'S THESE TWO

12:02:54PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
12:02:57PM ONLY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE ON I BELIEVE SINCE ZO6-71 WAS PASSED
12:03:02PM WHICH IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED WITH RETAIL, RESTAURANT,
12:03:06PM AND NOW OFFICE.
12:03:09PM THAT TOOK OUT THE RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT OF THAT BLOCK SO THERE
12:03:13PM WILL NOT BE A RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCT.
12:03:15PM THE ONLY REMAINING BLOCK THEN WOULD BE BLOCK A WHICH IS THE
12:03:21PM (COUGH) EXCUSE ME -- AN ENTITLEMENT FOR REDEVELOPMENT UNDER
12:03:25PM THE ZO6-71 BUT HAS NOT BEEN EFFECTUATED YET.
12:03:30PM SO IF AND WHEN IT DOES COME, IT WILL OWE THE RESIDENTIAL
12:03:33PM PARKING SPACES THAT THEY HAVE.
12:03:35PM BUT FOR MY ANALYSIS AND WHAT WAS REQUESTED UNDER THIS
12:03:41PM APPLICATION, WHICH WAS BLOCK D FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
12:03:45PM NONRESIDENTIAL USES WERE ANALYZED FOR THAT BLOCK
12:03:53PM SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING THERE'S 972 REQUIRED.
12:04:00PM I ALWAYS LIKE TO KNOW WHEN I'M DONE, HEY, YOU ARE GETTING
12:04:04PM CLOSE.
12:04:05PM THERE'S 20-SOME SPACES.
12:04:06PM THAT IS WHAT'S LEFT.
12:04:08PM SO WHATEVER THE CONFIGURATION FROM NOW ON, 20-SOME SPACES IS
12:04:12PM WHAT THEY HAVE UNLESS THEY MAKE A DECISION TO COME BACK TO
12:04:14PM YOU AT A LATER DATE FOR SOMETHING CONCERNING YOUR
12:04:20PM DEVELOPMENT.
12:04:20PM >>HARRY COHEN: AND THAT'S THE POINT, ISN'T IT, IF THOSE
12:04:23PM RESTAURANTS -- I'M SORRY.

12:04:29PM THOSE RESTAURANTS COME BACK AND THEY WANT ALCOHOL, THEY ARE
12:04:32PM GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE THE REQUIRED PARKING TO
12:04:36PM JUSTIFY IT.
12:04:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
12:04:38PM OR ASK YOU FOR A PARKING WAIVER.
12:04:40PM I MEAN, IF THE INVENTORY IS UP, THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR
12:04:44PM LAST CHOICE.
12:04:44PM BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
12:04:50PM I BELIEVE -- I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT YOU
12:04:55PM DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE YOUR PARKING UNTIL YOU ARE BUILDING
12:04:59PM WHAT IT IS THAT REQUIRES THE PARKING.
12:05:01PM SO THAT WAS ONE.
12:05:02PM THE OTHER WAS THOSE OUTSIDE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE CALCULATED
12:05:06PM FOR YOU, WHAT I SEE ONCE I LOOKED AT THE RESIDENTIAL, NOT
12:05:10PM THAT I BELIEVE THAT'S RELEVANT TO MY REVIEW BECAUSE THERE
12:05:13PM WAS NO MODIFICATION TO ANY RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, THEREFORE
12:05:17PM THE MODIFICATION WAS TO THE NONRESIDENTIAL AND THAT
12:05:21PM NONRESIDENTIAL WHAT WAS EVALUATED BY STAFF, BUT IN REALS TO
12:05:24PM THE RESIDENTIAL I SHOWED YOU, THERE'S 16 SPACES OUT.
12:05:28PM THERE'S 16 UNITS OUT THERE.
12:05:29PM IT'S 34 SPACES OUT THERE POTENTIALLY 36 ACCORDING TO THE
12:05:33PM PETITIONER.
12:05:34PM THEREFORE, THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE.
12:05:38PM NOT THAT THAT'S RELEVANT.
12:05:40PM AND I DO STAND THAT IT IS A NONSUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATION.

12:05:46PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:05:47PM PETITIONER, REBUTTAL.
12:05:53PM YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
12:05:54PM >> I REALLY HAVE JUST THREE POINTS.
12:05:57PM FIRST IS THAT AS TO BLOCKS A AND H, WE JUST WANTED THE
12:06:03PM COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPER TO BE CLEAR THAT PARKING
12:06:09PM COMPLIANCE AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING THESE AS
12:06:12PM THEY COME IN LINE AND I TRUST THAT COUNCIL WILL BE, ALSO.
12:06:16PM SECONDLY, ALTHOUGH MUCH HAS BEEN MADE OF THE FACT THAT THE
12:06:20PM ZONING SITE PLAN [RUSTLING PAPERS] IS STRICTLY INCLUSION OF
12:06:26PM SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, THE ACTUAL RECORDED DOCUMENTATION IN
12:06:30PM THE PUBLIC RECORDS CONSTANTLY REFERS TO THESE EXTRA CONDOS,
12:06:39PM AS BEING PART OF OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
12:06:43PM HERE ARE THE SPECIFIC EXERTS FROM A 1995 DOCUMENT BETWEEN
12:06:47PM OLD HYDE PARK, PARK VILLAGE CENTER LIMITED AND THE POST
12:06:53PM APARTMENT HOMES WHICH WAS THE PREDECESSOR TO THE DEVELOPER
12:06:56PM OF HYDE PARK -- [RUSTLING PAPERS]
12:06:59PM IT SAYS POST AGREES THAT IT WILL INCLUDE AS AN ATTACHMENT OR
12:07:03PM SPECIAL STIPULATION TO EVERY LEASE FOR A UNIT IN POST
12:07:06PM PROJECT PARKING REGULATIONS THAT INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING:
12:07:09PM A STATEMENT THAT POST HYDE PARK VILLAGE APARTMENTS, THE
12:07:12PM COMMUNITY, IS A PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS OLD
12:07:16PM HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
12:07:17PM THE OWNER OF THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL PORTIONS OF OLD HYDE
12:07:21PM PARK VILLAGE, THE DEVELOPER, HAS ADVISED MANAGEMENT -- AND

12:07:25PM IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS FROM THE FACT
12:07:29PM THAT THIS PROJECT IS A PART OF OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE AND HAS
12:07:34PM TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN IN REALS TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
12:07:37PM I WILL TELL YOU AFTER HAVING REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE
12:07:40PM FIVE CONDOS AND THE OTHER RECIPROCAL EASEMENTS THAT RELATE
12:07:44PM TO THEM, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE SHARED PROPERTY, THEY ALL
12:07:47PM CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE PART OF A LARGER PROJECT KNOWN AS
12:07:49PM OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
12:07:51PM THEY HAVE PROVISIONS THAT REQUIRE EASEMENTS FOR SUPPORT AND
12:07:55PM COVERAGE BY SURROUNDING BUILDINGS.
12:07:57PM AND A LOT OF TECHNICAL REAL ESTATE LAWYER STUFF, BUT WHAT IT
12:08:00PM AMOUNTS TO IS THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS, ALL FIVE OF THEM,
12:08:03PM CONSIDER THEMSELVES PART OF HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
12:08:06PM AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IT HAS TO BE THE CASE THAT THE
12:08:10PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR SHOULD EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF THE
12:08:13PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, SURROUNDING USES AND THE SURROUNDING
12:08:18PM NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CONTEXT OF THEIR ANALYSIS.
12:08:20PM AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE PARKING ACTUALLY EXISTING IN A GARAGE
12:08:26PM THAT IS LEGALLY CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF THE PROJECT, EVEN
12:08:29PM IF IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY PART OF PUBLIC ZONING SITE PLANS.
12:08:33PM SO WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.
12:08:39PM OTHERWISE, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER REBUTTAL.
12:08:43PM [RUSTLING PAPERS]
12:08:43PM >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
12:08:45PM ALL RIGHT.

12:08:48PM APPLICANT, REBUTTAL?
12:08:49PM FIVE MINUTES.
12:08:49PM >> I DO HAVE A REBUTTAL, OF COURSE.
12:08:54PM FIRST, VERY PROUD AND HONORED TO BE PART OF SUCH A GREAT
12:09:01PM RESURGE ANSWER OF THE HYDE PARK AREA AND APPRECIATE THE WORK
12:09:04PM THAT EVERYBODY HAS DONE, CITY STAFF, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
12:09:07PM AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THAT SUCCESSFUL.
12:09:10PM BUT TODAY, WE ARE HERE ON THE LAW, AND WE ARE HERE ON AN
12:09:14PM APPEAL, AND THERE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO SUBSTANTIAL,
12:09:19PM COMPETENT EVIDENCE INTRODUCED INTO THIS RECORD BY THE
12:09:23PM PETITIONER THAT WE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR PLANNED
12:09:27PM DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, AND THAT MS. FEELEY MADE SOME KIND OF
12:09:35PM ERROR IN HER DECISION.
12:09:36PM SHE DOES NOT LOOK AT PRIVATE DOCUMENTS.
12:09:39PM SHE LOOKS AT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF HER, AND THAT'S IN THIS CASE
12:09:43PM THE ZONING REGS AND PD PLANS.
12:09:48PM IF THERE ARE PRIVATE DOCUMENTS OUT THERE ALLUDING TO
12:09:51PM SOMETHING, THEN THEIR ENFORCEMENT RIGHTS UNDER THOSE PRIVATE
12:09:54PM DOCUMENTS, THAT THOSE PARTIES, WHOEVER THEY ARE, CAN TAKE
12:09:58PM ADVANTAGE OF.
12:09:59PM JUST LIKE ANY KIND OF CONTRACT, RIGHT?
12:10:02PM ALL I KNOW IS WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT.
12:10:06PM WE FOLLOWED THE NORMAL PROCESS.
12:10:08PM WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
12:10:11PM AND WE ARE HOPEFUL FOR A VERY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT.

12:10:16PM AND I REALLY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY WERE GOING ON
12:10:18PM THIS APPEAL, KIND OF BRINGING IN OTHER PROPERTIES THAT
12:10:23PM WEREN'T PART OF ANYTHING OR WEREN'T EVALUATED, ANY OF THAT.
12:10:26PM AND I DO THINK THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT ONE THING, AND
12:10:30PM THAT'S UTILIZING THE CITY'S APPEAL PROCESS TO BASICALLY
12:10:34PM DELAY AND BLOCK OUR DEVELOPMENT.
12:10:39PM THIS PARTICULAR PETITIONER PART OF THE LAWSUIT AND MR. MOSES
12:10:45PM WHO SPOKE AGAINST US HAS ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL.
12:10:49PM SO, AGAIN, NORMALLY I WOULDN'T GO DOWN THAT PATH, BUT I DO
12:10:54PM THINK IT'S TO THE CHARACTER OF THE ADVOCACY, AT LEAST, THAT
12:10:59PM THEIR LAWYER IS TRYING TO DO TO CITY COUNCIL.
12:11:01PM SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU
12:11:06PM UPHOLD MRS. FEELEY'S DECISION.
12:11:08PM THANK YOU.
12:11:08PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL?
12:11:14PM ALL RIGHT.
12:11:16PM GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MR. COHEN, SECOND BY MR.
12:11:18PM MANISCALCO.
12:11:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:11:24PM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:11:25PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
12:11:26PM I MOVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S APPROVAL OF
12:11:30PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE DETERMINATION APPLICATION, 18-17.
12:11:37PM PETITIONER HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE PETITIONER MET
12:11:39PM ANY OF THE CRITERIA FOUND IN THE SECTION 27-138-7.

12:11:44PM >> SECOND.
12:11:45PM >>FRANK REDDICK: DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:11:47PM ALL RIGHT.
12:11:47PM MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.
12:11:48PM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
12:11:50PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:11:52PM OPPOSED?
12:12:00PM WE GO TO NUMBER 88.
12:12:02PM ITEM NUMBER 88.
12:12:06PM >> JERROD SIMPSON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
12:12:11PM THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
12:12:14PM COMMISSION'S DECISIONS.
12:12:18PM I HAVE SOME SAMPLE MOTIONS TO COUNCIL.
12:12:24PM THE COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE DECISION, OR UPHOLD, I SHOULD
12:12:29PM SAY, UPHOLD THE DECISION.
12:12:31PM THE COUNCIL CAN REVERSE THE DECISION.
12:12:32PM OR THE COME UP CAN REMAND THE DECISION BACK TO THE ARC WITH
12:12:36PM INSTRUCTIONS.
12:12:39PM I HAVE SOME SAMPLE MOTIONS THAT WERE DRAFTED BY THE LEGAL
12:12:41PM DEPARTMENT FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER BASED ON AN UPHOLD OR
12:12:49PM REVERSAL IF COUNCIL WISHES TO REMAND WITH INSTRUCTIONS, THEN
12:12:52PM YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT I'LL PROVIDE THESE.
12:13:03PM AND WE HAVE STAFF FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO GIVE YOU THE
12:13:06PM SUBSTANTIAL HISTORY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
12:13:11PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC

12:13:15PM PRESERVATION MANAGER.
12:13:16PM ASSISTING ME TODAY ELAINE LUND FROM MY OFFICE.
12:13:19PM THIS IS A REVIEW REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF
12:13:22PM APPROPRIATENESS BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
12:13:25PM HEARING FROM JULY 9th EARLIER THIS YEAR.
12:13:29PM I DID WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN INTRODUCTION, PHOTO ESSAY
12:13:36PM FOR THE CASE.
12:13:38PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 311 EAST ROSS WHICH IS LOCATED
12:13:43PM OBVIOUSLY AT THE TIP OF THAT ARROW WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
12:13:46PM LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT UNDER
12:13:50PM THAT DESIGNATION, ANY EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE
12:13:54PM STRUCTURE OF THE SITE DO REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF
12:13:56PM APPROPRIATENESS.
12:14:01PM HERE IS THE 1929 SANBORN MAP WITH THE SUBJECT PARCEL
12:14:06PM INDICATED IN GROAN.
12:14:08PM AS I SAID, IT DOES FRONT EAST ROSS AREA AVENUE WITH
12:14:12PM JEFFERSON STREET TO THE EAST AND MORGAN STREET TO THE WEST,
12:14:15PM AND TO THE SOUTH, PALM AVENUE.
12:14:16PM THE STRUCTURE SHOWN ON THE MAP NO LONGER EXISTS AS A
12:14:21PM NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND NONHISTORIC STRUCTURE THAT
12:14:24PM CURRENTLY OCCUPIES THE SITE.
12:14:26PM ONCE AGAIN, AN AERIAL SHOWING YOU THE PROXIMITY WITH THE
12:14:31PM STRUCTURE FRONTING EAST ROSS AVENUE.
12:14:36PM THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:14:40PM THE FRONT ELEVATION PRESENTED TO ROSS AVENUE.

12:14:44PM YOU SEE THE DRIVEWAY AND APRON JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE
12:14:48PM PHOTOGRAPH.
12:14:51PM ONCE AGAIN A SHOT DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE APRON.
12:14:59PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
12:15:02PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:15:11PM THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS ROSS AVENUE TO THE NORTH.
12:15:17PM A STREET VIEW LOOKING TO THE EAST.
12:15:20PM THAT WOULD BE JEFFERSON STREET IN THE FOREGROUND.
12:15:23PM AND THEN BACK TO THE WEST.
12:15:29PM THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE ALLEY THAT'S TO THE REAR OF THE
12:15:32PM STRUCTURE, JUST BEHIND JEFFERSON STREET.
12:15:37PM AND AT THE END OF THE ALLEY WHICH IS TO THE WEST.
12:15:41PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS ALLEY IS BEING USED BY THE TIRE TRACKS
12:15:46PM THERE.
12:15:49PM THIS IS THE REAR OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OFF OF THE ALLEY.
12:15:53PM THERE'S A GATE THERE.
12:15:56PM AND THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
12:16:03PM THAT CONCLUDES THE PHOTO ESSAY.
12:16:06PM THE REQUEST TO THE ARCHITECT MATERIAL REVIEW COMMISSION WAS
12:16:09PM FOR APPROVAL OF A DRIVEWAY AND APRON.
12:16:14PM ORIGINALLY, THE WAY THAT THIS CASE ORIGINATED WAS THAT THERE
12:16:21PM WAS A VIOLATION.
12:16:23PM THERE WAS WORK DONE OFF OF EAST ROSS AVENUE TO CREATE THAT
12:16:28PM APRON THAT YOU SAW ON THESE MORE CURRENT PICK FIRST. THIS
12:16:32PM IS HOW THE CURB LINE LOOKED IN JUNE OF 2015.

12:16:35PM IN JULY IS WHEN THERE WAS A VIOLATION AND IT WAS REPORTED TO
12:16:41PM THE DIVISION.
12:16:41PM YOU SEE THAT THE GRANITE CURB HAD BEEN DEMOLISHED AND IT WAS
12:16:45PM IN THE PROCESS OF APRON BEING CREATED.
12:16:50PM I VISITED THE SITE ABOUT THIS TIME AND HAD REQUESTED THAT
12:16:54PM THE WORK STOP.
12:16:56PM HOWEVER, IT CONTINUED.
12:16:59PM THIS IS IN OCTOBER.
12:17:00PM AND YOU SEE THE APRON BECOMING COMPLETE.
12:17:05PM THERE IS THE APRON.
12:17:06PM AND THEN MOVING INTO EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE IT'S NOW BEING
12:17:10PM USED FOR PARKING IN THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURES, A COUPLE
12:17:14PM CARS THERE.
12:17:14PM THIS ONE WAS FROM MAY.
12:17:16PM SO IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE THE VIOLATION, THE PROPERTY OWNER
12:17:22PM COULD DO A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:17:24PM COULD HAVE RESTORED THE CURB BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
12:17:26PM CONFIGURATION, OR HE COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH A PROCESS TO
12:17:30PM GET IT APPROVED.
12:17:31PM AND THAT'S WHAT HE ELECTED TO DO.
12:17:35PM HE WAS FOUND GUILTY, CURRENT BEING FINED.
12:17:44PM I'M SUBMITTING TO OUR OFFICE THE SITE PLAN.
12:17:47PM YOU SEE IT'S ESSENTIALLY MEMORIALIZING APRON AND THE RIBBONS
12:17:49PM THAT ARE IN PLACE.
12:17:52PM ALONG THE FRONT SIDE OF THE PORCH, AND RESIDENTIAL PARKING

12:17:57PM DOES REQUIRE TWO PARKING SPACES, TWO OFF-STREET PARKING
12:18:01PM SPACES.
12:18:02PM HE'S LOOKING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
12:18:06PM THERE'S A STAFF REPORT THAT WAS PREPARED FOR THE
12:18:09PM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
12:18:10PM I AM GOING TO PASS THAT OR HAVE ELAINE PASS THAT TO YOU NOW
12:18:14PM SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE ARC LOOKED AT.
12:18:20PM IN THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST, THE ARC LOOKED AT
12:18:26PM PATTERNS ALONG THE STREET. THIS IS NOT AN EXHIBIT THE ARC
12:18:33PM ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE PREPARED FOR THIS
12:18:35PM TO SHOW YOU IN GENERAL THERE'S TWO TYPES OF ACCESS FOR
12:18:39PM VEHICULAR PARKING IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF HISTORIC
12:18:43PM DISTRICT.
12:18:43PM THAT'S PART OF THE CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT, HOW VEHICLES
12:18:47PM TRADITIONALLY ACCESS PARCELS, EACH IF SOME OF THEM WERE EVEN
12:18:53PM BEFORE VEHICLES.
12:18:53PM BUT GENERALLY THERE'S EITHER AN ALLEY ACCESS WHICH IS
12:18:57PM INDICATED BY THE BLUE DOTS ON THIS PARTICULAR EXHIBIT, OR A
12:19:01PM FRONT STREET ACCESS.
12:19:02PM TYPICALLY THE FRONT STREET ACCESS WOULD ALLOW THE VEHICLE TO
12:19:05PM ENTER OFF THE FRONT STREET BUT WOULD PASS ALONG THE SIDE
12:19:08PM TOWARDS THE REAR WHERE THERE'S AN ACCESSORY BUILDING.
12:19:15PM THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE DESIGN STANDARDS CALL FOR.
12:19:17PM THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, THERE IS A PARKING
12:19:20PM SECTION, AND IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WE DO REFER TO THAT,

12:19:26PM PARTICULARLY THE SECTION THAT SAYS PLACING PARKING FRONT
12:19:30PM YARDS AND RESIDENTIAL AREA IS NOT PERMISSIBLE.
12:19:34PM SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR FOR THE
12:19:39PM DRIVEWAY AND THE PARKING IN THE FRONT WAS THAT IT WAS
12:19:43PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
12:19:49PM SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY
12:19:55PM ARC.
12:19:56PM THIS IS ONE OFF OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, HAS A PORTE-COCHERE, A
12:20:03PM UNIQUE FEATURE, A PASS THROUGH FOR VEHICLES.
12:20:06PM BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THERE'S PARKING BEYOND
12:20:09PM THE FRONT ELEVATION TOWARDS THE SIDE OF THE VEHICLE.
12:20:14PM THIS IS A PROJECT OFF OF JEFFERSON STREET JUST AROUND THE
12:20:17PM CORNER.
12:20:19PM IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
12:20:23PM ONCE AGAIN, THEY DO HAVE BEEN A VEHICULAR ACCESS OFF OF THE
12:20:27PM MAIN STREET.
12:20:28PM HOWEVER, THERE'S A TREE THAT PREVENTED THAT TO GO THROUGH
12:20:30PM ALL THE WAY, SO THEY ARE ACCOMMODATING A SECOND VEHICLE OFF
12:20:33PM OF THE ALLEY THROUGH THE REAR.
12:20:38PM OBVIOUSLY ACCOMMODATE THE LANDSCAPE ELEMENT IN PLACE.
12:20:41PM THIS IS A RESTORATION OF A HISTORIC HOME ON FRANCIS AVENUE.
12:20:47PM ONCE AGAIN, THE RIBBONS GO BEYOND THE FRONT SETBACK.
12:20:51PM THEY CHANGE MATERIAL HERE BECAUSE OF THE TREE BUT IT DOES
12:20:55PM HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR TWO CARS BEYOND THE FRONT SETBACK.
12:20:59PM THIS IS A DUPLEX ON FRANCIS.

12:21:02PM ALLEY ACCESS WAS AVAILABLE IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION
12:21:06PM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PARKING IN THE REAR.
12:21:10PM ANOTHER SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
12:21:14PM NO ALLEY ACCESS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
12:21:17PM THE ALLEY IS NOT OPEN BECAUSE OF THE TREE.
12:21:19PM SO THERE WAS A VEHICULAR ACCESS OFF THE MAIN STREET WITH TWO
12:21:24PM PARKING ON THE SIDE.
12:21:26PM THIS IS A DUPLEX THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED ON NORTH
12:21:30PM JEFFERSON STREET.
12:21:32PM ONE VEHICLE PARKS TO THE SIDE AND ANOTHER TO THE REAR.
12:21:39PM EXISTING STRUCTURE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT
12:21:42PM PROPERTY.
12:21:42PM THIS IS ON THE 400 BLOCK.
12:21:44PM THIS IS ONE THAT WOULD ENTER OFF OF ROSS, PASS THROUGH THE
12:21:49PM REAR, AND THERE'S AN EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IT
12:21:52PM CAN BE HOUSED IN.
12:21:53PM THERE'S ALSO ENTRANCE OFF THE ALLEY TO HOUSE THAT PARTICULAR
12:21:59PM STRUCTURE.
12:21:59PM SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, THE ARC DID DENY THE REQUEST FOR
12:22:04PM THE DRIVEWAY, AND THE APRON.
12:22:09PM I FOUND THAT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
12:22:12PM DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
12:22:14PM RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND THE PATTERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:22:17PM AND THE STREET.
12:22:19PM AND THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.

12:22:22PM I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
12:22:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:22:32PM IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
12:22:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST BEFORE MR. GRANDOFF BEGINS, I HAVE
12:22:36PM BEEN INFORMED BY THE CLERK THAT THE PETITIONER HAS FILED A
12:22:40PM DVD WITH THE CLERK.
12:22:42PM IT'S RIGHT THERE.
12:22:44PM THANK YOU.
12:22:44PM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: ADDRESS IS 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
12:23:04PM I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING MY FRIEND ERIC ELKINS
12:23:07PM THIS MORNING.
12:23:08PM AND HIS WIFE.
12:23:12PM RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.
12:23:14PM AND THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE CASE.
12:23:16PM HE SIMPLY WANTS TO BUILD A DRIVEWAY.
12:23:18PM AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T
12:23:21PM DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE ALLEY.
12:23:24PM AND BY THE WAY, YOU NEED TO PAVE THE ALLEY, AND IT'S GOING
12:23:27PM TO COST $8,000 TO DO THAT, SO PLEASE DO THAT AS WELL.
12:23:32PM AND FORGET ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:23:34PM SO LET'S REMEMBER THE ARC'S FINDING THAT THIS WAS
12:23:40PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:23:42PM I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT REALLY IS GOING
12:23:45PM ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:23:47PM FIRST, LET'S LOOK AT SOME HISTORY.

12:23:50PM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:23:52PM WHAT REALLY IS TAMPA HEIGHTS?
12:23:55PM WELL, TAMPA HEIGHTS WAS PLATTED IN 1890, AND IT DID NOT
12:24:01PM INCLUDE MR. KELLY AND MRS. KELLY'S PROPERTY, DOWN TO
12:24:12PM HENDERSON AVENUE.
12:24:12PM TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS WHERE
12:24:16PM THE OLD ST. JOSEPH'S HOSPITAL USED TO BE, AND HERE AT OAK,
12:24:20PM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OLD STANDARD OIL
12:24:23PM HEADQUARTERS, WHICH WAS ALSO SEAL CREEK ROAD, 1890.
12:24:33PM ERIC'S PROPERTY IS IN WHAT'S CALLED A SUBDIVISION OF BLOCKS
12:24:36PM 1 AND 2 OF FLETCHER SUBDIVISION.
12:24:38PM IT WAS PLATTED IN 1901.
12:24:40PM AND HERE IS ERIC AND LINDA'S PROPERTY.
12:24:45PM A LITTLE BIT LATER, LIONS SUBDIVISION IS PLATTED, IN 1899.
12:24:51PM HERE IS JEFFERSON STREET.
12:24:53PM HERE IS CENTRAL AVENUE.
12:24:55PM HERE IS FRANCIS STREET.
12:24:57PM HERE IS PARK AVENUE.
12:24:58PM THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.
12:25:02PM THREE DIFFERENT PLATS NOW PROPOSING TO BE CALLED TAMPA
12:25:05PM HEIGHTS.
12:25:10PM INTERESTING THING HAPPENED.
12:25:12PM HENRY FORD DEVELOPED THE MODEL T, HAD A STEERING WHEEL ON
12:25:22PM THE LEFT WHICH EVERY OTHER COMPANY COPIED, THE ENTIRE ENGINE
12:25:26PM WAS ENCLOSED, 4 CYLINDERS.

12:25:28PM THE CAR WAS VERY SIMPLE TO DRIVE, EASY AND CHEAP TO REPAIR.
12:25:31PM SO CHEAP AT $825 IN 1908.
12:25:36PM ABOUT 1920s THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS HAD LEARNED TO DRIVE
12:25:40PM THE MODEL T.
12:25:41PM WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
12:25:43PM BECAUSE NO ONE HAD A CAR WHEN THIS NEIGHBORED IS PLATTED.
12:25:49PM WHAT DID THEY HAVE?
12:25:50PM THEY HAD ALLEYS.
12:25:52PM THERE'S AN ALLEY.
12:25:54PM THERE'S A 15-FOOT ALLEY.
12:25:56PM IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TAMPA HEIGHTS THAT I SHOWED
12:25:59PM YOU, ANOTHER 15-FOOT ALLEY.
12:26:03PM WHAT'S GOING ON?
12:26:06PM YOU HAD A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS CHARGED TO BE
12:26:09PM PROTECTED BY THE ARC BUT THEY FOR GET TO LOOK AT THE PLAT
12:26:12PM WHEN THEY PASSED THE RULES SAYING IN A DRIVEWAYS.
12:26:15PM THEY FORGET THAT IN THE 1800S, BEFORE HENRY FORD CAME ALONG,
12:26:20PM PEOPLE WERE USING ALLEYS FOR LIVERY.
12:26:23PM HORSES WERE COMING DOWN THE ALLEYS TO DELIVER GOODS AND TAKE
12:26:27PM AWAY REFUGE, AND THEY WOULD BE STABLED IN THE FRONT YARD
12:26:38PM WHEN PEOPLE WERE VISITING AT TIMES.
12:26:40PM THERE WERE NO CARS.
12:26:41PM ARC TOLD THIS GENTLEMAN, USE THE ALLEY TO ACCESS YOUR HOME.
12:26:44PM 15-FOOT ALLEY, BY THE WAY.
12:26:46PM AND PAVE IT TO IT TUNE OF $8,000.

12:26:59PM WHAT ARE THE ARC RULES? THE RULE WAS THEY ARE DENYING
12:27:02PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BECAUSE THE PARKING AREA IS
12:27:04PM IN THE FRONT OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WHICH IS INCONSISTENT
12:27:06PM WITH THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE GUIDELINES AND THE
12:27:08PM PATTERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STREET.
12:27:11PM THE CITY CODE CHAPTER 27, AND 22, IS VOLUMINOUS.
12:27:20PM IT TELLS YOU ALL USES SHALL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE HARD
12:27:24PM SURFACE PARKING AREA MADE OF CONCRETE OR OTHER PAVER WITHIN
12:27:26PM THE PRIVATE LOT FOR REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
12:27:30PM IN ADDITION DRIVEWAY ACCESS LOCATED IN THE PUBLIC
12:27:32PM RIGHT-OF-WAY SINGLE-FAMILY REQUIRED TO BE PAVED IN ORDER TO
12:27:35PM PRESERVE THE EDGE OF THE ROE E RODE WAY AND PROTECT IT FROM
12:27:38PM EROSION AND DAMAGE.
12:27:40PM THE CODE CONTINUES AND SAYS THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT IS REQUIRED
12:27:45PM FOR INSTALLING OR RELOCATING DRIVEWAY APRIL ROPES OR CURBS
12:27:49PM BETWEEN PROPERTY LINE AND THE STREET PAVEMENT.
12:27:51PM THAT'S CHAPTER 22.
12:27:52PM THE CODE CONTINUES AND SAYS, ALL DRIVEWAY APPROACHES AND
12:27:57PM CURB RETURNS WITH JOINT PAVED SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED OF
12:28:01PM CONCRETE OR OTHER MATERIALS APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR,
12:28:03PM MAINTENANCE SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY
12:28:06PM BEING SERVED.
12:28:08PM ERIC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
12:28:11PM CHAPTER 22 HAS A STANDARDS FOR BUILDING DRIVEWAY.
12:28:14PM YOU GET COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS CONSTANTLY ABOUT PEOPLE

12:28:18PM PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES AND NOT USING THE DRIVEWAY.
12:28:22PM CITY-WIDE.
12:28:23PM BUT WE HAVE THIS ENCLAVE OF TAMPA HATES.
12:28:27PM NO, NO, YOU CAN'T USE THE FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY THAT YOU
12:28:30PM PAY FOR FOR ACCESSING YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU HAVE TO USE A
12:28:34PM 15-FOOT DRIVEWAY THAT WAS PLATTED FOR HORSES.
12:28:38PM LET'S GO BACK INTO THE ARC REGULATIONS THAT THEY CONSIDERED
12:28:41PM IN THEIR AUGUST DELIBERATIONS.
12:28:45PM A MODIFICATION OR ADDITION OF A DRIVEWAY REQUIRES A
12:28:49PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
12:28:52PM IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE ORIGINAL SIDEWALKS,
12:28:56PM DRIVEWAYS AND CURBS WHERE POSSIBLE.
12:29:00PM IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO DEVELOP NEW DRIVEWAYS TO BE SIMILAR IN
12:29:04PM MATERIAL AND APPEARANCE TO ORIGINAL SIDEWALKS, SITE PAVING
12:29:07PM AND DRIVEWAYS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS. SO SOMEONE GOT A DRIVEWAY
12:29:11PM IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:29:13PM WHO IS THAT?
12:29:15PM WELL, LET'S GO DOWN THE STREET.
12:29:18PM 409 FRANCIS STREET.
12:29:21PM THERE'S A DRIVEWAY.
12:29:23PM THERE'S THE HOUSE.
12:29:25PM THERE'S A CAR PARKED NEXT TO THE HOUSE.
12:29:29PM HERE IS THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
12:29:30PM HERE IS A SITE PLAN APPROVING IT.
12:29:37PM NEW CONE INSTRUCTION ON FRANCIS STREET.

12:29:41PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
12:29:43PM SITE PLAN.
12:29:45PM WITH A DRIVEWAY.
12:29:49PM THIS IS FAIR?
12:29:50PM THIS IS CONSISTENT?
12:29:54PM HERE IS AN ALLEY.
12:29:56PM A BEAUTIFUL ALLEY.
12:29:59PM ON NORTH JEFFERSON.
12:30:00PM REMEMBER THAT'S ON THE SECOND PLAT I SHOWED YOU.
12:30:02PM NORTH JEFFERSON.
12:30:03PM HERE IS AN ALLEY.
12:30:06PM HERE IS THE HOUSE GOING UP NEXT TO THE ALLEY.
12:30:08PM BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY FOR THIS CERTIFICATE OF
12:30:10PM APPROPRIATENESS.
12:30:11PM NO, YOU CAN USE A DRIVEWAY ON JEFFERSON STREET.
12:30:22PM ANOTHER HOUSE GOING UP ON JEFFERSON STREET.
12:30:25PM NEW CONSTRUCTION.
12:30:27PM HERE IS WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE ON JEFFERSON.
12:30:30PM HERE IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
12:30:32PM HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
12:30:37PM THERE'S THE DRIVEWAY COMING ON TO THE BACK.
12:30:40PM JUST LIKE ERIC'S PLANS.
12:30:45PM THERE'S MORE.
12:30:48PM FRANCIS STREET.
12:30:53PM MORE FRANCIS STREET.

12:30:55PM NOW WE GET TO THE BEST PART.
12:30:57PM WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET?
12:31:04PM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS GENTLEMAN.
12:31:06PM THIS IS FAIR?
12:31:10PM THIS IS WHAT THE RULE IS DIAGNOSE.
12:31:12PM THIS IS DOWN THE STREET.
12:31:14PM NO DRIVEWAY.
12:31:16PM AN EXISTING HOME THAT FOLKS HAVE CHOSEN TO COME DOWN THE
12:31:20PM SAME ALLEY BUT LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.
12:31:22PM URBAN CLUTTER.
12:31:23PM CARS IN THE FRONT YARD.
12:31:24PM REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS NOT FOR CARS.
12:31:28PM IT WAS FOR HORSES.
12:31:30PM FURTHER DOWN THE STREET.
12:31:34PM BRAND NEW HOUSE.
12:31:36PM DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT.
12:31:42PM HERE WE HAVE THE SO-CALLED STANDARD OF TAMPA HEIGHTS,
12:31:51PM SANCTUARY LOT.
12:31:52PM REPURPOSED BUILDING.
12:31:54PM USED TO BE A CHURCH.
12:31:57PM LOOK AT THAT.
12:31:59PM BIG PARKING LOT BEHIND IT.
12:32:02PM ANOTHER DRIVEWAY.
12:32:04PM AND WE GOT SO MORE PARKING.
12:32:11PM ANOTHER HOME ON MORGAN.

12:32:13PM THIS IS A REMARKABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
12:32:15PM INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT.
12:32:16PM IT'S GOT MULTIFAMILY BEHIND IT.
12:32:18PM GOT A DRIVEWAY THAT COMES IN.
12:32:19PM THE DRIVEWAY GOES AROUND THE HOME.
12:32:21PM HERE IS THE MULTIFAMILY.
12:32:22PM AND THEN IT COMES OUT HERE.
12:32:26PM WHAT'S NEXT DOOR?
12:32:29PM THE ALLEY BUILT FOR THE HORSES.
12:32:32PM THAT'S ERIC'S HOUSE.
12:32:40PM THE CITY HAS TOLD HIM, YOU CAN'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY.
12:32:43PM YOU HAVE TO PAVE AN ALLEY.
12:32:45PM GOT TO PAY $8,000.
12:32:46PM BY THE WAY, KEEP YOUR CAR IN THE FRONT YARD, WHICH IS WHAT
12:32:49PM HE'S BEEN DOING SINCE HE'S BEEN ON APPEAL SINCE JULY,
12:32:53PM PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD.
12:32:54PM THAT MAKES SENSE?
12:32:55PM THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
12:32:56PM THAT'S ABSURD.
12:33:01PM HERE IT IS, ERIC'S CAR BLOCKING.
12:33:06PM NOTICE THE SIGN PUT THERE.
12:33:09PM HERE IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE ALLEYS.
12:33:12PM BUILT FOR HORSES.
12:33:14PM HERE IS ANOTHER HOME.
12:33:16PM THEY HAVE GOT A DRIVEWAY.

12:33:20PM HERE IS A DRIVEWAY.
12:33:22PM IN FACT, THE CONCRETE 2013.
12:33:26PM THAT WAS BUILT -- THAT'S THE DRIVEWAY.
12:33:31PM HERE IS THE BID. THE TOTAL BID, $12,000 TO PAVE THE ALLEY.
12:33:36PM THE ARC THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
12:33:39PM I SUBMIT TO YOU, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE RIDICULOUS
12:33:43PM DECISION IN THE NAME OF RENOVATIONS OF DENYING THIS
12:33:49PM GENTLEMAN A RIGHT THAT EVERYONE, PARTICULARLY THE NEIGHBOR
12:33:52PM ACROSS THE STREET, HAS TO BUILD THE DRIVEWAY.
12:33:57PM JERROD GAVE YOU TWO MOTIONS.
12:34:00PM I SUBMIT TO YOU, YOU NEED TO REVERSE THE SECOND MOTION THAT
12:34:03PM HE WROTE.
12:34:04PM NOW WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE MOTION IS IF YOU GO BACK
12:34:08PM AND YOU CONSIDER THE CRITERIA YOU NEED TO BE LOOK AT, YOU
12:34:11PM NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER THE ARC CONSIDERED THE COMPATIBILITY
12:34:16PM OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE
12:34:19PM DISTRICT.
12:34:23PM DON'T GO BACK TO THE 1800S WHEN WE HAD HORSES COMING DOWN
12:34:26PM THE ALLEY.
12:34:27PM NOW GO FORWARD TO THE PHOTO ESSAY THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU AND
12:34:31PM WHAT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW?
12:34:32PM WE ARE STILL DRIVING DOWN THE ALLEY FOR HORSES?
12:34:35PM ARE WE PARKING THE CARS IN THE FRONT YARD LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
12:34:38PM IN THE CITY DOES?
12:34:41PM MY THEIR ANALYSIS, ABOUT I THEIR LOGIC THERE SHOULD BE NO

12:34:45PM AIR CONDITIONERS IN THE HEIGHT BECAUSE THERE WERE NO AIR
12:34:48PM CONDITIONERS IN THE 1800S.
12:34:50PM SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER BECAUSE THEY
12:34:52PM ARE OBTRUSIVE, THEY DON'T LOOK GOOD, WE NEED TO SCREEN THEM,
12:34:56PM SO WE ARE GOING TO BE PURE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND HAVE NO AIR
12:34:59PM CONDITIONERS AND NO DRIVEWAYS, AND USE HORSES.
12:35:02PM THE ARC SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING POINTS IN CONSIDERATION
12:35:06PM FOR APPLICATION OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
12:35:08PM NOW LISTEN TO THESE POINTS, SHALL CONSIDER THESE FOLLOWING
12:35:12PM POINTS.
12:35:13PM AND DRIVEWAY, REAR ACCESS, SCALE HEIGHT AND WIDTH, MASSING
12:35:19PM AND BUILDING FORM, SETBACK, ORIENTATION, AND SITE COVERAGE,
12:35:26PM ALIGNMENT, RIBBON AND SPACING.
12:35:31PM SIX IS ABOUT AS CLOSE AS WE GET.
12:35:33PM MAINTAINING MATERIALS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
12:35:36PM HE WANTS TO PAVE THE DRIVEWAY.
12:35:39PM TRIM AND DETAIL, LINK BETWEEN OLD AND NEW.
12:35:43PM FACADE PROPORTIONS AND WINDOW PATTERNS.
12:35:45PM ENTRANCES AND PORCH PROJECTIONS.
12:35:47PM ROOF FORMS.
12:35:48PM AND FINALLY, NUMBER 11, MAINTAINING QUALITY OF DESIGN AND
12:35:51PM CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
12:35:53PM THAT'S ABOUT AS CLOSE AS WE GET.
12:35:55PM I SUBMIT HE HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION, MORE THAN
12:35:58PM SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE TO REVERSE AN ABSURD DECISION

12:36:02PM OF THE ARC.
12:36:03PM I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR REVERSAL OF THIS DECISION.
12:36:07PM I WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
12:36:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL.
12:36:13PM WE HAVE STILL GOT ANOTHER -- CAN I REQUEST 30 MINUTES?
12:36:23PM >> 30 MINUTES, SIR.
12:36:24PM >> SECOND.
12:36:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:36:26PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
12:36:27PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:36:29PM OKAY.
12:36:29PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
12:36:32PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 88?
12:36:35PM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:36:49PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:36:50PM MY NAME IS EVA WILSON. I LIVE AT 313 EAST ROSS, WHICH IS
12:36:55PM THE HOUSE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF 311 EAST ROSS.
12:36:59PM AND I HAVE COME BEFORE YOU SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE DIFFERENT,
12:37:05PM I GUESS, ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROPERTY.
12:37:10PM AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS
12:37:16PM PARKING PATTERN IN PLACE ON THE FRONT YARD.
12:37:20PM IT DOES NOT FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:37:24PM I HAVE MY GARAGE IN THE BACK, UNTIL THE CITY GOT THE GARBAGE
12:37:28PM TRUCKS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE HANDLES ON IT, THOSE GARBAGE
12:37:32PM TRUCKS WERE ABLE TO COME DOWN THE ALLEY.

12:37:36PM MY NEIGHBOR, IT'S TO HIS CONVENIENCE.
12:37:39PM HE CAN GET IN HIS BACKYARD.
12:37:41PM BUT THERE'S HIS CAR PARKING IN THE BACKYARD RIGHT THERE.
12:37:47PM AND HE SAYS THAT HE CAN'T GO THERE.
12:37:51PM HERE IS ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE HE HAS MOVED HIS TRUCK TO THE
12:37:56PM BACK AREA.
12:37:57PM HE SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, HIS WIFE'S CAR CAN'T GET THROUGH
12:38:01PM THERE, AND HE DOESN'T WANT IT ON THE ROAD, BUT THERE HAS
12:38:04PM BEEN A WEEK AT A TIME WHERE HIS WIFE'S CAR HAS SPENT THE
12:38:08PM NIGHT ON THE, YOU KNOW, AND HE IS BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF
12:38:12PM THESE VEHICLES BELONGING TO HIM, THE RV, THE MIATA, ALL OF
12:38:18PM THESE ARE HIS.
12:38:19PM SO HE'S BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE VEHICLES PLACED ON THE
12:38:25PM STREETS IT.
12:38:26PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WAIT A MINUTE, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
12:38:28PM I SAW ABOUT FIVE OR SIX VEHICLES.
12:38:30PM >> YES.
12:38:31PM >>FRANK REDDICK: HE OWNS ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE SHOWN?
12:38:34PM >> YES, SIR.
12:38:35PM >> SOMETIMES MORE THAN THAT.
12:38:37PM >> YES.
12:38:38PM AND HERE IS THE STRUCTURE.
12:38:39PM THIS PIECE OF HIS HOUSE WAS ACTUALLY ADDED ON BY HIM.
12:38:44PM SO HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW,
12:38:50PM BUNGALOW-STYLE HOUSE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE HIM PARKING ON

12:38:55PM THE FRONT OF HIS AREA.
12:38:57PM HE COULD HAVE MOVED THIS, WHICH I THINK IS HIS HOME
12:39:01PM OFFICE -- HIS OFFICE FOR HIS BUSINESS, TO THE BACK OF HIS
12:39:06PM HOME.
12:39:07PM SO HE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
12:39:11PM HE COULD HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETHING ALONG THESE
12:39:14PM LINES.
12:39:15PM BECAUSE HE HAD THE PROPERTY TO DO IT BUT HE CHOSE NOT TO.
12:39:18PM SO, YOU KNOW, I SUBMIT TO YOU, THIS IS ANOTHER OCCASION
12:39:23PM WHERE, YOU KNOW, HIS RV AND EVERYTHING WAS, YOU KNOW,
12:39:27PM PARKED.
12:39:28PM I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY -- I'M OUT OF TOWN?
12:39:34PM BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS BEING ABLE TO DO THIS.
12:39:40PM AND THIS IS WHERE HE ACTUALLY -- YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE WHERE
12:39:44PM HE GETS PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING, BUT HE JACKHAMMERED UP
12:39:47PM THE CURB WITH NO PERMISSION, AND WITHOUT REGARD TO ANYTHING.
12:39:52PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:39:53PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
12:39:55PM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?
12:39:57PM >> YES, I WANT TO SPEAK.
12:40:00PM MY NAME IS JAMES MARTIN.
12:40:04PM I LIVE IN THE CITY HERE FOR ABOUT 65 YEARS.
12:40:08PM MY ADDRESS OF 6904 -- TAMPA, FLORIDA.
12:40:13PM SHE HAD SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT IT, AND I AM IN THE AREA PRETTY
12:40:19PM REGULARLY.

12:40:20PM THIS GENTLEMAN HAS -- I KNOW HIS REPRESENTATION THAT HE HAD
12:40:24PM A FEW MINUTES AGO.
12:40:25PM LAST TIME I KNOW WHEN I WAS THERE LAST NIGHT I WOKE UP THIS
12:40:29PM MORNING.
12:40:29PM IT WAS 2018.
12:40:33PM WE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE 1800S.
12:40:35PM THIS GUY HAS A MOTOR HOME THAT'S PARKED OUT THERE.
12:40:38PM I'M TALKING ABOUT AN EXTENDED ONE.
12:40:41PM A REAL NICE ONE.
12:40:42PM SOMETIME BETWEEN 6, 5, OR 4 CARS PARKED OUT THERE.
12:40:47PM HE ACTUALLY DISASSEMBLED THE CURB AND WAS TOLD NOT TO DO IT.
12:40:54PM I ACTUALLY WEPT TO THE MAYOR OFFICE MACE.
12:40:57PM I HADN'T SEEN ANY ACTION ON THIS AT ALL.
12:41:00PM WHEN I WENT TO THE MAYOR OFFICE AND I STARTED TALKING TO
12:41:02PM SOMEONE IN THEIR OFFICE, THEN WE STARTED TO NOTICE SOME
12:41:07PM ACTION.
12:41:07PM THEN THEY TOLD ME HE WAS TOLD NOT TO DO IT.
12:41:11PM BUT HE DID IT ANYWAY.
12:41:12PM AND NOT ONLY ON TOP OF THAT HE STARTED THREATENING US.
12:41:15PM ON ONE POINT ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIM, A SINGLE LADY, AND ON
12:41:19PM THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIM, IS MRS. WILSON.
12:41:22PM AND IT WAS A MAN STANDING NEXT DOOR TO HIM ON EITHER SIDE.
12:41:27PM HE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
12:41:28PM SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE AND WE HOPE YOU ALL
12:41:31PM TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND DO SOMETHING AND DO THE

12:41:33PM RIGHT THING.
12:41:34PM HE KNOW THAT HE'S IN THE WRONG.
12:41:37PM HE SAID HE KNOWS HE'S IN THE WRONG.
12:41:39PM HE TOLD US, THAT HE WILL GET REPRESENTATION AND COME DOWN
12:41:44PM HERE.
12:41:45PM WE WAS TOLD THAT HE'S GOING TO BE CHARGED.
12:41:47PM BUT EVERY DAY IT'S NOT BEING REPLACED.
12:41:50PM AND SO I'M ASKING YOU ALL DO THE RIGHT THING.
12:41:53PM DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS YOUNG LADY.
12:41:55PM DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:41:57PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:41:58PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:41:59PM ANYONE ELSE?
12:42:00PM >> I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN.
12:42:05PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:42:06PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OH, MY GOODNESS.
12:42:07PM ANYBODY ELSE GOING TO SPEAK THAT HAS NOT BEEN SWORN IN?
12:42:10PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
12:42:14PM >> I DO.
12:42:17PM I LIVE AT 401 EAST ROSS.
12:42:24PM MINE IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS SHOWN.
12:42:25PM I DO HAVE A SHORT STATEMENT WHEN WE ALL MOVED INTO THE
12:42:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD WE KNEW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE.
12:42:30PM IF THERE'S THINGS WE WANT TO DO OUTSIDE OF, WE WOULD COME
12:42:36PM BEFORE YOU GUYS.

12:42:37PM WE MAY NOT LIKE THE DECISIONS BUT WE RESPECT THE DECISIONS.
12:42:39PM I JUST ASK THAT THE STANDARD GO ACROSS THE BOARD.
12:42:43PM THANK YOU.
12:42:43PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
12:42:45PM ANYONE ELSE?
12:42:46PM ALL RIGHT, STAFF.
12:42:46PM >>JERROD SIMPSON: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN.
12:42:52PM I JUST WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE
12:42:54PM FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
12:42:56PM QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, IN ADDITION TO THE
12:43:00PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
12:43:02PM AND IT'S MY SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
12:43:04PM FOR STAFF THAT UP ASK THOSE QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE
12:43:08PM PETITIONER'S REBUTTAL.
12:43:10PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:43:12PM >>HARRY COHEN: WHERE IS THE SOLID WASTE PICKED UP, IN THE
12:43:19PM BACK OR THE FRONT? I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT FROM THE
12:43:21PM TESTIMONY.
12:43:21PM >> FRONT.
12:43:22PM >> FRONT AND SIDE.
12:43:24PM >>HARRY COHEN: FRONT AND SIDES.
12:43:27PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:43:28PM REBUTTAL?
12:43:29PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ONE QUESTION OF STAFF.
12:43:31PM I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SIMPSON COULD ANSWER.

12:43:34PM MAYBE YOU WOULD.
12:43:35PM WHAT HAPPENS IF WE UPHOLD THE DENIAL?
12:43:38PM WOULD THAT PIECE THAT WAS DESTROYED BE REQUIRED TO BE
12:43:45PM REINSTATED?
12:43:45PM >> IF YOU UPHOLD THE DENIAL AND THE DRIVEWAY, THEN IT WOULD
12:43:52PM BE REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED.
12:43:55PM HE'S ALREADY BEEN FOUND GUILTY THROUGH THE HEARING
12:43:57PM MAGISTRATE FOR THAT SO HE'S GOING THROUGH HIS DUE PROCESS
12:44:00PM NOW.
12:44:01PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BUT IF YOU SAY YOU OWE US SOMETHING FOR
12:44:04PM HAVING DONE THIS VERSUS HAVING TO PUT IT BACK, THAT'S THE
12:44:08PM WAY IT IS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY ARE ASKING TO LEAVE IT AS
12:44:12PM IS.
12:44:12PM SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO -- WHAT'S THE PROCESS?
12:44:15PM >>JERROD SIMPSON: THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS IS IN
12:44:18PM MOTION.
12:44:19PM I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SPECIFIC STATUS OF IT.
12:44:22PM BUT THE DECISION WAS TO UPHOLD THE ARC TODAY, THEN OBVIOUSLY
12:44:27PM THEY HAVE LEGAL AVENUES THAT THEY CAN PURSUE FOR THIS
12:44:33PM DECISION.
12:44:33PM BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE -- THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS A SEPARATE
12:44:36PM PROCEEDING AND THAT WOULD CARRY ON AS WELL IN WHETHER OR NOT
12:44:41PM THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REMOVE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD
12:44:43PM BE SUBJECT TO THAT SEPARATE PROCESS.
12:44:46PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MY POINT IN ASKING IS THE WEIGHT OF THE

12:44:49PM DECISION IS IT WOULD BE REINSTATED AFTER EXHAUSTING ALL OF
12:44:52PM THEIR APPEALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IF IT IS STILL UPHELD
12:44:55PM BASED ON THE BEGINNING OF THIS DECISION, CORRECT?
12:44:59PM >>JERROD SIMPSON: ASSUME THAT ALL LEGAL PROCESSES HAVE BEEN
12:45:02PM EXHAUSTED, THEN THE FINES BASED ON CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD
12:45:07PM CONTINUE TO RUN, OR THE CITY COULD PURSUE OTHER LEGAL MEANS
12:45:12PM TO TRY TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
12:45:14PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND IN COMPLIANCE MEANING THEY WOULD REBUILD
12:45:17PM THE CURB AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY TO THEM DESTROYING THE CURB?
12:45:23PM >> JUST TO CLARIFY, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A GRANITE CURB
12:45:27PM THERE.
12:45:27PM NORMALLY WHEN A DRIVEWAY IS CONSTRUCTED THE GRANITE IS SUNK.
12:45:30PM IN THIS INSTANCE IT WAS DEMOLISHED.
12:45:33PM SO I PREVIOUSLY LET THE PROPERTY OWNER KNOW IF IT WAS GOING
12:45:39PM TO BE RESTORED THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE
12:45:42PM ORIGINAL MATERIAL SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE SORT OF A HEIGHT IN
12:45:45PM THERE OF THE ORIGINAL MATERIAL --
12:45:47PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES.
12:45:49PM THERE'S DESTRUCTION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FIRST OF ALL IN
12:45:52PM ADDITION TO THE ARC ISSUES.
12:45:54PM I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
12:45:56PM >>SAL TERRITO: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:45:58PM THE ONLY THING I WANT TO CAUTION YOU ON IS YOU CAN'T MIX THE
12:46:00PM TWO CASES.
12:46:01PM I KNOW THERE'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE.

12:46:03PM I KNOW YOU WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER.
12:46:05PM IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WOULD YOUR DECISION HERE.
12:46:08PM IT'S A SEPARATE ITEM.
12:46:09PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. TERRITO, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT CODE
12:46:12PM ENFORCEMENT.
12:46:13PM I AM SAYING THE WEIGHT OF OUR DECISION DOES HAVE A REMEDY AT
12:46:15PM SOME POINT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN ALL LEGAL, YOU KNOW,
12:46:20PM RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE ARE EXHAUSTED.
12:46:21PM THAT'S ALL.
12:46:22PM >>SAL TERRITO: I UNDERSTAND.
12:46:24PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
12:46:25PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:46:26PM REBUTTAL?
12:46:32PM WAIT A MINUTE.
12:46:33PM I ASKED IF ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
12:46:36PM AND IF YOU GUYS DON'T MOVE, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, COME ON
12:46:39PM DOWN NOW.
12:46:46PM ALL RIGHT.
12:46:46PM PLEASE.
12:46:47PM >> MY NAME IS JOHN MARSH, URBAN PLANNER II TRANSPORTATION
12:46:52PM PLANNING SECTION.
12:46:53PM I'M THE ONE WHO REVIEWED THIS CASE FOR TRANSPORTATION
12:46:57PM COMPLIANCE.
12:46:59PM THERE IS ONE IMPORTANT POINT THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP ON
12:47:04PM THE DAY OF THE FIRST HEARING, THERE WAS A RULING FROM THE

12:47:07PM TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION THAT
12:47:11PM FOR ALLEYS WITH SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE WITH AN ALLEY THAT IS
12:47:16PM CURRENTLY BEING USED AND IS NAVIGABLE, THEY NO LONGER NEED
12:47:20PM TO PAVE IT.
12:47:21PM THERE WAS A SPECIFIC ANSWER TO THIS CASE.
12:47:24PM THAT INFORMATION WAS TRANSMITTED FROM MY SUPERVISOR, MELANIE
12:47:28PM CALLOWAY, TO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT.
12:47:33PM SO THAT SHOULD BE OFF THE TABLE.
12:47:35PM IF HE WANTS TO ACCESS THE ALLEY, HE DOES NOT HAVE TO PAVE
12:47:38PM IT.
12:47:39PM THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL PROPERTIES ON HIS SIDE OF THE BLOCK
12:47:41PM THAT DO HAVE GARAGES AND ARE BE CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR
12:47:46PM PARKING.
12:47:48PM I DID GO OUT THERE THE ACTUAL DAY OF THE HEARING.
12:47:50PM I DID SEE EVIDENCE OF THAT.
12:47:53PM I DID NAVIGATE MY VEHICLE DOWN THE ALLEY.
12:47:55PM SO THAT IS ONE ISSUE.
12:47:57PM THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT I
12:48:01PM REVIEWED THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE EXISTING CONDITION HAS A
12:48:04PM NUMBER OF FLAWS.
12:48:06PM IT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT CODE.
12:48:08PM THE DRIVEWAY DOES NOT MEET THE 9-FOOT MINIMUM.
12:48:13PM THE DRIVEWAY APRON WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED ACCORDING TO PUBLIC
12:48:19PM WORKS STANDARD FOR A DRIVEWAY APRON.
12:48:22PM THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW THAT HE CAN PARK TWO CARS ON HIS

12:48:25PM PROPERTY ON A PAVED PAD.
12:48:27PM CURRENTLY THERE WAS NO PROVISION FOR A PAVED AREA.
12:48:30PM EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE TWO CARS PARKED IN ONE OF THOSE
12:48:33PM PICTURES, THE PAD NEEDS TO BE 18 BY 18 AND NEEDS TO BE ONE
12:48:36PM FOOT ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE.
12:48:38PM I BELIEVE IT'S VERY TIGHT, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN A SITE PLAN
12:48:42PM WITH DIMENSIONS, THAT SHOWS THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.
12:48:45PM IF HE DOES DO AN 18 BY 18 PAD, HE NEEDS THE DRIVEWAY TO
12:48:50PM ALIGN WITH THE PAD.
12:48:51PM CURRENTLY HIS PAD SHOWS IS FOR A ONE-CAR DRIVEWAY.
12:48:57PM HE CANNOT DO A SIDE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE HE NEEDS TEN FEET.
12:49:00PM HE NEEDS A FOOT FOR THE SETBACK.
12:49:02PM HE NEEDS A NINE FOOT WIDTH.
12:49:04PM HE ONLY HAS SEVEN FEET FROM THE SIDE SO HE CANNOT DO WHAT A
12:49:08PM NUMBER OF OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO
12:49:10PM BECAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM.
12:49:11PM BASICALLY BECAUSE THAT ADDITION, I THINK, WAS BUILT ON THAT.
12:49:16PM HE DOES APPEAR TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
12:49:19PM HE MUST MEET THIS REQUIREMENT IS TO PLACE HIS TWO-CAR
12:49:24PM PARKING REQUIREMENT VIA THE ALLEY.
12:49:27PM HE WOULD NEED TO SET IT BACK 8 FEET BECAUSE IT'S A 16-FOOT
12:49:30PM ALLEY.
12:49:31PM HE NEEDS A 24-FOOT BACKUP.
12:49:33PM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO INCLUDE THE PLAT WITH THE ALLEY AND THEN
12:49:36PM HE COULD BUILD AN 18 BY 18 PAD WITH A SMALL APRON AND THAT

12:49:40PM WOULD MEAT THE CRITERIA. SO EVERY TIME WE COME IN AND WE
12:49:43PM SEE THIS, AND I REVIEW ARC, BLC SPECIAL USE CASES FOR HOUSES
12:49:49PM ALL DAY LONG, THEY ARE ALL REVIEWED THE SAME, AND WE ARE ALL
12:49:53PM LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO MEET THEIR
12:49:57PM REQUIRED TWO CARS PARKING OR WHETHER THEY NEED A DESIGN
12:50:00PM EXCEPTION.
12:50:03PM THERE IS A REVIEW FOR THAT.
12:50:04PM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU, HOW WOULD HE MEET THE
12:50:07PM REQUIREMENT WITH THE MOTOR VEHICLES?
12:50:12PM >> I ONLY REVIEW WITH THE TWO CAR REQUIREMENT.
12:50:14PM SOME PEOPLE OWN FIVE CARS.
12:50:18PM I AM NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THAT.
12:50:20PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
12:50:21PM THAT'S FINE.
12:50:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:50:24PM >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:50:25PM >>FRANK REDDICK: REBUTTAL?
12:50:26PM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: ERIC RECEIVED A PERMIT TO DO THIS.
12:50:42PM IT WAS ISSUED BY THE CITY.
12:50:43PM UPON RECEIVING THE PERMIT HE REMOVED THE GRANITE CURB.
12:50:46PM LATER THEY FLAGGED THE PROJECT, SAID YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH
12:50:49PM THE ARC.
12:50:50PM HE STILL HAS THE GRANITE CURB.
12:50:53PM IF YOU APPROVE HIS BUILDING OF THE DRIVEWAY, HE WILL SINK
12:50:56PM THE GRANITE CURB INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

12:50:58PM THE CITY WILL NOT BE LOSING GRANITE CURB.
12:51:01PM THE OTHER STREETS IN THE-THE OTHER CARS IN THE STREET, I
12:51:05PM WANT ERIC TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THOSE ARE ALL
12:51:07PM ABOUT.
12:51:08PM PLEASE COME FORWARD, ERIC.
12:51:09PM >> ERIC ELKINS, 311 EAST ROSS.
12:51:18PM SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH VEHICLES.
12:51:21PM I SAW THE PICTURE OF WHAT WAS SHOWN, THE MOTOR HOME IS
12:51:26PM TEMPORARY.
12:51:27PM THE LEXUS WAS PARKED OUT BECAUSE WE WERE UNLOADING SOMETHING
12:51:30PM WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE.
12:51:31PM SO ALL THOSE VEHICLES DON'T STAY THERE ALL THE TIME.
12:51:35PM WE HAVE GUESTS COME OVER.
12:51:36PM THEY PARK OUT THERE.
12:51:40PM THE VEHICLES PARKED IN THE BACK WAS PRIOR TO ME LEARNING
12:51:44PM THAT I COULD NOT PARK BACK THERE.
12:51:50PM YOU KNOW, LIKE JOHN SAID, THERE ARE PLENTY OF VEHICLES IN
12:51:52PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKED IN DRIVEWAYS.
12:51:54PM THERE'S ALL KIND OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IN MY OPINION,
12:51:58PM OVER 200 DRIVEWAYS, OVER 200 HOMES, THERE ARE LIKE 100 AND
12:52:07PM MORE DRIVEWAYS CONNECTED TO THE STREET.
12:52:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE QUESTION WAS, DO YOU OWN ALL OF THOSE
12:52:13PM VEHICLES THAT WERE SHOWN IN THE PICTURE?
12:52:15PM >> NO.
12:52:17PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.

12:52:18PM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THE CODE SAYS IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE TO
12:52:25PM PLACE PARKING IN FRONT YARDS NO RESIDENTIAL AREA.
12:52:27PM THAT'S A POLITE ISSUE.
12:52:29PM WE DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BLIGHTED.
12:52:32PM HOWEVER, THE SANCTUARY LOTS HAS PLENTY OF PARKING ADJACENT.
12:52:38PM BUT DRIVES AND WALKWAYS, THE CODE SAYS IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO
12:52:43PM DEVELOP NEW DRIVEWAYS, SIDEWALKS AND SITE PAVING, TO BE
12:52:48PM SIMILAR MATERIAL AND APPEARANCE TO ORGANIZATION SITE WALK
12:52:52PM PAVEMENT AND DRIVEWAYS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:52:55PM THIS IS RAH CROSS THE STREET FROM ERIC.
12:53:03PM THIS IS DOWN THE STREET, A NEW HOME.
12:53:06PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
12:53:12PM THE NEIGHBORS PROPOSITION HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISSUE.
12:53:18PM THEY WERE UPSET ABOUT CARS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:53:20PM THE CARS ARE ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
12:53:22PM IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.
12:53:25PM IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE APPEAL.
12:53:27PM WHAT THEY ARE OBJECTING TO IS NOT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
12:53:30PM EVIDENCE.
12:53:30PM MR. COHEN ASKED A VERY IMPORTANT ACTION, HOW IS SOLID WASTE
12:53:34PM PICKED UP?
12:53:34PM IN THE FRONT.
12:53:37PM THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC SERVICES ARE RENDERED.
12:53:39PM THAT'S WHEREOF THE WATER METER IS.
12:53:42PM THAT'S WHERE THE DRIVEWAY SHOULD BE.

12:53:45PM THAT IS WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE.
12:53:49PM WE CAN'T HAVE TWO RULE BOOKS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:53:55PM WE CAN REVISE THE SITE PLAN TO MEET THE COMMENTS THIS
12:54:00PM GENTLEMAN RAISED.
12:54:04PM YOU SEE THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR OTHER
12:54:06PM DRIVEWAYS WITH PROPERTIES ON ALLEYS.
12:54:11PM THEY GET TO HAVE THEM.
12:54:12PM WHY CAN'T ERIC?
12:54:13PM I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YOU SHOULD REVERSE THIS AND GRANT THIS
12:54:17PM GENTLEMAN THE RIGHT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS, TO HAVE A
12:54:21PM DRIVEWAY IN HIS FRONT YARD.
12:54:23PM THANK YOU.
12:54:23PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS?
12:54:25PM YES, SIR.
12:54:25PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE BUT THE HISTORIC STAFF HAS
12:54:30PM REQUESTED THAT I ASK -- THAT THEY CAN BE GIVEN THE
12:54:33PM OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF FACTUAL STATEMENTS THAT
12:54:37PM HAVE BEEN MADE.
12:54:37PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE 30 MINUTES AND NOW YOU
12:54:41PM ALL --
12:54:43PM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESPOND TO
12:54:46PM THOSE.
12:54:46PM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: AND THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT.
12:54:49PM >> I WILL BE BRIEF. TWO ISSUES.
12:54:50PM THERE WAS NEVER A PERMIT ISSUED TO REMOVE THE GRANITE CURB.

12:54:53PM THERE WAS NOT A RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT OR BUILDING PERMIT.
12:54:56PM THAT WAS THE VIOLATION THAT WAS ORIGINATED THE ENTIRE CODE
12:54:59PM ENFORCEMENT CASE.
12:55:01PM THE SECOND ISSUE, THE STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING POINTED TO,
12:55:05PM ONE OF THE STRUCTURES FOR JUSTIFICATION, THIS WAS BUILT
12:55:07PM ACTUALLY IN THE 1992.
12:55:10PM THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WASN'T ESTABLISHED UNTIL 2000.
12:55:13PM THIS WAS PREVIOUS TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
12:55:16PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD GONE OUT THERE, I
12:55:22PM THINK IT WAS IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.
12:55:26PM SEPTEMBER, EXCUSE ME.
12:55:28PM SEPTEMBER.
12:55:28PM AND AT THAT POINT, WAS THERE A CEASE AND DESIST, DON'T
12:55:32PM CONTINUE YOUR WORK?
12:55:33PM BECAUSE YOU SHOWED SOME PROGRESS ON THERE.
12:55:35PM AND THAT WAS REPORTED AND GIVEN TO THE HOMEOWNER TO SAY, DO
12:55:39PM NOT CONTINUE THIS PROJECT?
12:55:42PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I BELIEVE AT THE TIME OUR RECOLLECTION
12:55:43PM WAS HE WAS ALREADY UNDER CODE VIOLATION, AND TRYING TO MEET
12:55:47PM TO FIND A SOLUTION ON-SITE I RECOMMENDED THAT THEY NOT
12:55:50PM CONTINUE --
12:55:52PM >> BUT THERE'S TWO SEPARATE PROCESSES.
12:55:55PM ONE IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS WHICH IS NOT PART OF THIS
12:55:57PM HEARING.
12:55:58PM THE SECOND IS PART OF YOUR PROCESS WHICH IS PART OF THIS

12:56:00PM HEARING WHICH IS YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT ARC
12:56:03PM REQUIRES CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND THAT WAS
12:56:05PM REPORTED TO THE HOMEOWNER AT THAT TIME?
12:56:09PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: CORRECT.
12:56:09PM I SENT HIM AN E-MAIL ASKING HE NOT CONTINUE THE WORK AND
12:56:12PM INSTRUCTED HIM ABOUT THE PROCESSES THAT NEEDED TO PLAY OUT.
12:56:17PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT.
12:56:19PM THANK YOU.
12:56:19PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:56:20PM ANYONE ELSE FROM STAFF?
12:56:22PM >>JERROD SIMPSON: AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLICATED
12:56:31PM CASE, AS YOU CAN TELL.
12:56:32PM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS
12:56:35PM WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAN TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY IN AS IT WAS
12:56:39PM PRESENTED TO YOU, WHETHER OR NOT THAT COMPLIES WITH THE
12:56:43PM DESIGN STANDARDS, CHAPTER 27, AND OTHER APPLICABLE
12:56:47PM PROVISIONS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE, AND IF YOU FIND THAT
12:56:50PM IT IS, THEN THERE'S SOME SIMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU AND BASED ON
12:56:56PM YOUR PLEASURE.
12:56:57PM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
12:56:58PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
12:57:02PM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE
12:57:06PM DATE THE HOME WAS BUILT WHICH THEY PUT INTO EVIDENCE, HOUSE
12:57:09PM ACROSS THE STREET.
12:57:11PM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET WHICH

12:57:13PM PARENT ARE PARLIAMENTARIAN WAS BUILT IN 1992.
12:57:16PM THERE'S A DRIVEWAY.
12:57:18PM VERY NICE HOUSE.
12:57:20PM HERE IS ERIC'S PRINT-OUT FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY
12:57:24PM APPRAISER. THIS HOME WAS BUILT IN 1996.
12:57:27PM SO I REQUEST THAT YOU REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE ARC.
12:57:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL?
12:57:39PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:57:40PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:57:45PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ TO CLOSE.
12:57:49PM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:57:50PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:57:53PM OPPOSED?
12:57:54PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WILL TAKE A STAB AT IT.
12:57:57PM I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DENIAL
12:58:00PM OF CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION ARC 18-147
12:58:04PM BECAUSE PETITIONER FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE PETITION
12:58:07PM MEETS THE CRITERIA FOUND IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION
12:58:09PM 27-115 SUB-K AND SUB-L.
12:58:13PM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:58:17PM >> SECOND.
12:58:19PM >> GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:58:20PM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:58:23PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:58:25PM OPPOSED?

12:58:28PM OKAY.
12:58:29PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH COHEN, CAPIN AND VIERA
12:58:35PM VOTING NO.
12:58:38PM EXCUSE ME.
12:58:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 3-3 TIE.
12:58:45PM COUNCIL?
12:58:48PM >>FRANK REDDICK: HE HAD TO LEAVE.
12:58:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE RULE OF CITY COUNCIL WITH
12:58:56PM QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING -- IF IT FAILS TO RECEIVE FOUR
12:59:01PM VOTES THE MOTION FAILS.
12:59:02PM IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE THE PUBLIC HEARING
12:59:05PM SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME
12:59:08PM CERTAIN OF THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
12:59:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:59:15PM >> SECOND. I MEAN -- (LAUGHTER)
12:59:17PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:59:26PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE HAVE A REGULAR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
12:59:27PM EVENING SESSION BUT THE NEXT ONE IS DECEMBER 20th WHICH
12:59:30PM IS OUR REGULAR SESSION.
12:59:34PM I'M SORRY, DECEMBER 20th.
12:59:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 10:30?
12:59:41PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:59:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE 2018-8-CHAPTER 27.
12:59:48PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:59:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 88.

12:59:54PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:59:57PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
12:59:58PM RESCHEDULE THIS TO DECEMBER 20.
1:00:00PM WHAT TIME WAS IT, 10:30?
1:00:02PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
1:00:04PM OPPOSED?
1:00:05PM OKAY.
1:00:07PM SEE YOU IN DECEMBER
1:00:10PM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 89.
1:00:12PM >> WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
1:00:22PM HAVE ON THIS ITEM OR THE NEXT ONE, A RESO ASSOCIATED WITH
1:00:26PM THAT.
1:00:27PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE 89 AND 90.
1:00:30PM >> GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
1:00:32PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
1:00:34PM OPPOSED?
1:00:34PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MOVE NUMBER 91.
1:00:38PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
1:00:40PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
1:00:42PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
1:00:44PM OPPOSED?
1:00:44PM ALL RIGHT.
1:00:46PM 92.
1:00:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SAVE US TIME IF I
1:00:52PM MAY REALLY FAST.

1:00:54PM FOR ITEM NUMBER 96, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS BE MOVED TO
1:00:57PM DECEMBER 20th.
1:00:58PM IT APPEARS THAT STAFF NEEDS SOME MORE TIME ON SOME MONETARY
1:01:02PM ISSUES.
1:01:02PM >> SECOND.
1:01:03PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
1:01:07PM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
1:01:09PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN ON ITEM NUMBER 96 TO MOVE TO DECEMBER
1:01:13PM 6th -- DECEMBER 20.
1:01:16PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
1:01:18PM OPPOSED?
1:01:19PM OKAY.
1:01:20PM ITEM NUMBER 93.
1:01:24PM 92.
1:01:24PM >>SAL TERRITO: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
1:01:27PM I CAN MAKE THIS VERY SHORT.
1:01:29PM THE QUESTION WAS WHAT KIND OF PROTECTIONS ARE THERE FOR THE
1:01:31PM EXISTING PARKS?
1:01:32PM THAT IS TOTALLY IN YOUR HANDS.
1:01:34PM ANYTIME THERE'S A PARK TO BE SOLD, REDESIGNED, PUT ON A
1:01:38PM LIST, TAKEN OFF THE LIST, THAT IS TOTALLY UNDER THE CONTROL
1:01:41PM OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
1:01:42PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE GIVE YOU THE FINAL
1:01:47PM AUTHORITY ON ANY OF THOSE MATTERS.
1:01:53PM I CAN GO MORE INTO DETAIL.

1:01:54PM I WANT TO MAKE THIS A SHORT MEETING.
1:01:56PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE PUBLIC PARK, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
1:02:02PM ZONING.
1:02:02PM THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LAND USE.
1:02:04PM AND I FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD ALL BE PUBLIC USE.
1:02:08PM AND THEN IF THE CITY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, THEN THEY COME
1:02:12PM TO US.
1:02:13PM AS IT STANDS, WE HAVE PARCELS THAT HAVE -- LIKE THIS ONE HAS
1:02:19PM DIFFERENT ZONINGS, UNDER THE PARK.
1:02:23PM >>SAL TERRITO: IF THEY ARE DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC PARK, IF
1:02:30PM THEY HAVE THAT DESIGNATION WHETHER THEY ARE ZONED
1:02:32PM DIFFERENTLY OR NOT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CHANGE THAT
1:02:34PM DESIGNATION.
1:02:34PM IF THEY ARE ON THE PROTECTED LIST THEY CAN'T BE CHANGED
1:02:37PM WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU. IF THEY ARE NOT DESIGNATED AS
1:02:40PM PUBLIC PARKS, AND THEY HAVE OTHER USES, THAT'S A DIFFERENT
1:02:43PM ISSUE.
1:02:43PM AND THAT WASN'T WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
1:02:45PM I WAS TRYING TO COME BACK AND BASICALLY TELL YOU WHETHER
1:02:49PM IT'S A DEDICATED PARK OR A DESIGNATED PARK, YOU HAVE THE
1:02:52PM FINAL WORD ON HOW THOSE PARKS WILL BE DISPOSED OF OR KEPT OR
1:02:56PM PROTECTED.
1:02:56PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHY NOT JUST MAKE THEM DESIGNATED PUBLIC
1:03:04PM PARKS LAND, AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT?
1:03:09PM IF IT WANTS TO BE CHANGED IT COMES TO US.

1:03:12PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD GO, IS TO BRING
1:03:20PM THOSE TO PROTECT THE LANDS FIRST, THEN IF YOU WANT TO COME
1:03:23PM IN, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN COME IN, IT STILL HAS THE ZONING
1:03:29PM SITTING UNDER IT.
1:03:30PM >>SAL TERRITO: SO YOUR CONCERN IS THERE'S A PIECE OF
1:03:32PM PROPERTY BEING USED AS A PARK, BUT THERE'S A ZONING CODE
1:03:35PM THAT GIVES YOU ANOTHER USE FOR THAT, AND YOU ARE CONCERNED
1:03:37PM THAT THEY WOULD STOP USING THE PARK.
1:03:40PM THE OTHER THING I CAN SUGGEST IF YOU THINK THERE'S A PARK
1:03:42PM THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED, PUT IT ON THE DEDICATED PARK LIST
1:03:45PM AND THAT WAY IT CAN'T BE CHANGED IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE
1:03:48PM ZONING IS.
1:03:48PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HOW MANY PARKS DO WE HAVE THAT ARE IN THE
1:03:52PM DEDICATED PARKS LIST?
1:03:54PM >>SAL TERRITO: THERE ARE MANY.
1:03:55PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S MY CONCERN.
1:03:57PM THERE ARE PUBLIC PARKS THAT ARE NOT.
1:03:59PM AND THEY WILL NOT BE COMING TO US.
1:04:01PM THAT IS MY CONCERN.
1:04:02PM >>SAL TERRITO: I'M SIMPLY TELLING YOU IF THERE'S A PARK
1:04:07PM DESIGNATED AS A PARK.
1:04:09PM NOW WHETHER IT'S ZONED DIFFERENTLY, DESIGNATED AS A PARK, IT
1:04:12PM WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU.
1:04:13PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE USE?
1:04:14PM OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DISPOSING OF THAT PROPERTY?

1:04:17PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISPOSING OF IT.
1:04:20PM >>SAL TERRITO: IF IT'S A DEDICATED PARK IT HAS TO COME TO
1:04:23PM YOU BEFORE IT CAN BE DISPOSED.
1:04:25PM IF IT'S A PARK THAT IS NOT DEDICATED THAT HAS OTHER ZONING
1:04:30PM ASSOCIATED WITH YOU, AS LONG AS IT FITS WITHIN THE ZONING
1:04:33PM CODE, THEN YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD NOT COME BACK TO YOU.
1:04:35PM IF IT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THAT --
1:04:37PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE.
1:04:40PM THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME.
1:04:41PM BECAUSE IF IT'S PUBLIC USE, IT SHOULD STAY PUBLIC USE,
1:04:46PM PERIOD, UNTIL IT'S BROUGHT TO US TO CHANGE, TO THE CITY
1:04:51PM COUNCIL.
1:04:52PM I WON'T BE HERE.
1:04:55PM IN 145 DAYS.
1:04:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
1:05:00PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR.
1:05:01PM I WAS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
1:05:04PM AND MR. TERRITO.
1:05:05PM AND I APOLOGIZE THAT MAYBE THE MOTION WAS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH
1:05:08PM OR MAYBE THE BACKUP MATERIAL WHEN I MADE THE MOTION.
1:05:11PM IT IS THE CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO PEACES IN THE ORDINANCE.
1:05:15PM ONE IS SAYING THAT A DESIGNATED PARK MAY NOT BE DONE UNLESS
1:05:20PM THERE'S A REFERENDA.
1:05:23PM THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY, ACCORDING
1:05:26PM TO THE PARK, POWER TO REDESIGNATE OR REMOVE A DESIGNATION OF

1:05:31PM A PARK.
1:05:31PM MY POINT IS THAT TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES
1:05:35PM FEEL, ABOUT YOU TO ME THAT IS IN CONFLICT AS TO WHAT THAT
1:05:37PM IS.
1:05:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION SOMETIME
1:05:43PM TODAY, PROBABLY RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT
1:05:45PM THE DESIGNATION, IT WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT TO UNDESIGNATE A
1:05:51PM PARK, SO THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SUPER MAJORITY OR
1:05:55PM UNANIMOUS BEFORE A PARK CAN BE REMOVED.
1:05:57PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE KEY IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A COUNCIL
1:06:01PM THAT IS MADE UP OF THREE AT-LARGE MEMBERS, AND FOUR DISTRICT
1:06:05PM MEMBERS, THOSE PARKS AND EACH ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS MAY
1:06:08PM HAVE A DIFFERENT MEANING FOR THEM.
1:06:10PM AND DISTRICT MEMBERS MAY NOT CARE ABOUT A PARK IN ANOTHER
1:06:13PM PART OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW.
1:06:15PM YOU ONLY HAVE THREE CITY-WIDE MEMBERS.
1:06:17PM THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO GET IT TO BE STOPPED.
1:06:21PM SO I WOULD PROFESSOR THAT WE CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE.
1:06:23PM SO MY DIRECTION TO YOU IF IT'S OKAY WITH MY COLLEAGUES, MY
1:06:27PM DIRECTION TO YOU IS TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE TO CHANGE
1:06:32PM HOW THE DESIGNATION IS CHANGED, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A
1:06:37PM SUPER MAJORITY, OR UNANIMOUS.
1:06:39PM I THINK WE CAN CHANGE THAT BY ORDINANCE.
1:06:40PM >> I'M LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY 1.5.5, AND
1:06:48PM IT SAYS NO PARKLAND.

1:06:51PM SHALL BE DIVERTED TO OTHER USES EXCEPT IN INSTANCES OF
1:06:54PM OVERRIDING PUBLIC INTEREST.
1:06:55PM OVERRIDING PUBLIC INTEREST IS DECIDED BY THIS BODY HERE.
1:07:00PM AND AGAIN THE DISTINCTION IS DOES PARKLAND COVER A USE OR
1:07:04PM DOES IT COVER A DESIGNATION?
1:07:05PM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
1:07:08PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH IN THE
1:07:10PM WEEDS OF MY DETERMINATION WHICH IS THE DESIGNATION ITSELF WE
1:07:12PM HAVE POWER OVER.
1:07:14PM WE CAN REMOVE DESIGNATION.
1:07:15PM WE JUST DID IT RECENTLY.
1:07:17PM SO I WOULD RATHER US HAVE IT THAT IT IS HARDER TO CHANGE THE
1:07:20PM DESIGNATION, AND THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE EITHER UNANIMOUS
1:07:24PM OR SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.
1:07:26PM I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO PROTECT THE PARKS THAT ARE
1:07:29PM ALREADY DESIGNATED AND NOT FOR ANY FUTURE COUNCIL TO COME IN
1:07:32PM AND SAY WE WANT TO NOT TAKE OFF THE DESIGNATION AND THAT'S
1:07:36PM LET'S GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP IT FOR WHATEVER REASON.
1:07:38PM FOR WHATEVER USE.
1:07:39PM THAT IS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION.
1:07:42PM SO IF I COULD --
1:07:44PM >> I'LL SECOND IT.
1:07:45PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WAS NOT FINISHED.
1:07:49PM >> WELL, MA'AM, THIS WAS MY MOTION.
1:07:53PM I APOLOGIZE BUT YOU TOOK THE LEAD.

1:07:55PM YOU WERE DISCUSSING SOME OTHER ISSUES.
1:07:56PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT THE MOTION
1:07:58PM THAT I MADE WAS ABOUT THESE SPECIFIC ISSUES.
1:08:01PM AND SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.
1:08:04PM I AM NOT TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM DOING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
1:08:06PM DO.
1:08:06PM BUT THAT WAS NOT MY POINT.
1:08:08PM AND WHEN HE WAS TELLING ME IT WAS A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAT'S A
1:08:12PM DIFFERENT ISSUE.
1:08:12PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
1:08:14PM I POINTED OUT THAT THEN WAS EXACTLY THAT, THAT THERE WAS A
1:08:18PM CONTRIBUTION.
1:08:18PM EXACTLY THE MOTION YOU MADE.
1:08:19PM I POINTED IT OUT BACK THEN.
1:08:21PM BECAUSE EVERYONE KEPT ASKING, WELL, IT WILL BE COMING BACK
1:08:25PM TO US?
1:08:26PM WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, NO, NOT NECESSARILY.
1:08:30PM DEPENDING ON WHERE THE DESIGNATION OF THAT PARK.
1:08:36PM SO I WANT THAT CLEAR.
1:08:39PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IS IT OKAY IF I MAKE MY MOTION AND THEN YOU
1:08:41PM CAN CONTINUE?
1:08:42PM OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT AND THEN I WILL MAKE MY MOTION
1:08:45PM AFTERWARDS?
1:08:45PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: LET ME HEAR FROM -- THANK YOU.
1:08:49PM >>REBECCA KERT: I'M SORRY, I HEARD YOUR QUESTION BUT COULD

1:08:57PM YOU REPEAT IT?
1:08:58PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THERE WAS A CONTRADICTION.
1:09:05PM DEPENDING ON THE DESIGNATION, IT WOULD COME TO US OR NOT
1:09:08PM DEPENDING -- IT WAS RIGHT THERE.
1:09:11PM IT WAS VERY CLEAR AND NOW I AM NOT FINDING IT AND I POINTED
1:09:15PM THAT OUT BACK THEN.
1:09:16PM >>REBECCA KERT: YES, MA'AM.
1:09:19PM YOU ARE CORRECT.
1:09:20PM WHEN SOMETHING WAS ON THE LIST AS DEDICATED PARKS, IF IT'S
1:09:24PM TAKEN OFF THE LIST OF DEDICATED PARKS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY
1:09:27PM COME BACK TO YOU.
1:09:29PM WHAT MR. TERRITO WAS SAYING AND CAME TO MY ATTENTION
1:09:34PM SUBSEQUENT TO THAT HEARING BUT I WASN'T AWARE OF IT WITH HE
1:09:36PM WOO HE LAST SPOKE ABOUT IT IS YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR
1:09:39PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH I WASN'T AWARE OF AT THE TIME.
1:09:41PM IT STATES THAT PARKLAND CANNOT BE CHANGED FROM PARKLAND USE.
1:09:45PM IT DOESN'T GO INTO DEDICATED OR NOT DEDICATED.
1:09:48PM IT JUST SAYS PARKLAND USE WITHOUT AN OVERRIDING PUBLIC
1:09:51PM INTEREST WHICH DOES GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT'S
1:09:55PM SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY IN YOUR COMP PLAN THAT I WAS NOT
1:09:58PM AWARE OF AT THE TIME.
1:09:59PM AND WHEN YOU AND I WERE DISCUSSING IT AT THE TIME, THERE ARE
1:10:03PM CERTAIN PARKS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR OPEN SPACE, RECREATION
1:10:08PM OPEN SPACE CURRENTLY, AND THERE ARE OTHER ONES THAT
1:10:11PM CURRENTLY HAVE ENTITLEMENTS ON THEM.

1:10:14PM AND THAT WAS DISCUSSION YOU AND I WERE HAVING.
1:10:17PM I WAS NOT AWARE, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY MR. GOERS
1:10:21PM SUBSEQUENTLY THANK YOU CURRENTLY DO HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR
1:10:23PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT PARKLAND CAN'T BE CHANGED TO
1:10:27PM ANOTHER USE WITHOUT A FINDING OF OVERRIDING PUBLIC INTEREST.
1:10:30PM AND THE OTHER THING THAT CITY COUNCIL COULD DO IS ASK FOR
1:10:33PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE CURRENT PARKS AND TO
1:10:37PM BRING BACK TO YOU WHAT THEIR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS,
1:10:40PM AND THAT WAY YOU CAN LOOK TO SEE WHICH ONES HAVEN'T
1:10:43PM ENTITLEMENTS ON THEM OR WHICH ONES ARE ALREADY PROTECTED
1:10:47PM THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
1:10:48PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE'S MOTION TO
1:10:51PM MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR
1:10:54PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO EXACTLY DO WHAT YOU JUST STATED.
1:11:00PM SO IF YOU WANT.
1:11:02PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, MRS. CAPIN.
1:11:05PM WE'LL PUT THE TWO TOGETHER BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THAT.
1:11:07PM BECAUSE NONE OF US KNEW ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PORTION
1:11:10PM OF IT, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT.
1:11:13PM I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUR STAFF FOUND IT AND MR.
1:11:16PM TERRITO AND THEN YOU HAD ALREADY MET WITH HER ABOUT THAT
1:11:19PM PARTICULAR ISSUE.
1:11:20PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
1:11:21PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- I AM
1:11:24PM GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A DATE AFTER I MAKE MY MOTION, MR.

1:11:27PM TERRITO -- THAT LEGAL DEPARTMENT COME BACK TO LOOK AT
1:11:31PM CHANGING HOW WE TAKE A DESIGNATION OFF OF A PARK WITHIN OUR
1:11:37PM ORDINANCE.
1:11:38PM RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST A SIMPLE VOTE.
1:11:40PM I WOULD RATHER HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OR A UNANIMOUS
1:11:44PM VOTE.
1:11:44PM AND I WANT YOU TO LOOK THROUGH THE LEGALITY OF THAT IF WE
1:11:46PM ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT, AND FOR YOU TO COME BACK, AS MRS.
1:11:52PM CAPIN HAD MENTIONED -- IF YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND
1:11:55PM RESTATE WHAT YOU SAID, MRS. CAPIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT?
1:11:59PM COME BACK AT HOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS WOULD BE
1:12:04PM PART OF THE USE OF PARK LAND WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
1:12:09PM IN RELATION TO HOW WE DESIGNATE OR NOT DESIGNATE A PIECE OF
1:12:13PM PARK LAND.
1:12:15PM DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
1:12:17PM >>SAL TERRITO: YES, IT DOES.
1:12:18PM I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION.
1:12:19PM THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS IN THE PLAN, IN THE ORDINANCE AS IT
1:12:22PM EXISTS TODAY, FOR GOVERNMENTAL USE AND THINGS LIKE ROADS.
1:12:27PM DO YOU WANT TO PUT THOSE IN THERE?
1:12:31PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ADDRESS THEM BEFORE WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE
1:12:33PM SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN WE COME TO
1:12:35PM THOSE TYPE OF CHANGES.
1:12:36PM SO I WOULD INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.
1:12:39PM MADAM CLERK, DID YOU GET ALL OF THAT?

1:12:41PM OKAY, TERRIFIC.
1:12:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:12:45PM I HAD SECONDED IT BUT NOW I AM CHAIR.
1:12:48PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK MRS. CAPIN WOULD BE THE SECOND.
1:12:50PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WILL SECOND.
1:12:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
1:12:53PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APOLOGIZE, CHAIR.
1:12:56PM WHAT DATE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO YOU?
1:13:00PM >>SAL TERRITO: SOME DATE IN JANUARY.
1:13:02PM I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR.
1:13:04PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DO YOU WANT TO DO JANUARY 10th UNDER
1:13:07PM STAFF REPORTS?
1:13:08PM THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
1:13:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
1:13:13PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CAPIN.
1:13:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:13:16PM OPPOSED?
1:13:17PM AND BRIEFLY I WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT, I WANT TO THANK
1:13:20PM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
1:13:21PM THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
1:13:23PM IT GOES TO A LARGER ISSUE OF GREEN SPACE IN CITIES, AND
1:13:26PM CITIES ARE MADE UP OF MORE THAN BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE, THEY
1:13:29PM ARE MADE OF GREEN SPACE.
1:13:31PM I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT IT'S A VERY LARGE ISSUE, ONE THAT
1:13:38PM REALLY UNITED THE COMMUNITY IN NORTH TAMPA AND FOREST HILLS

1:13:41PM A GREAT DEAL SO I THINK IS A VERY TIMELY MOTION.
1:13:45PM I SEE TWO OF MY FRIENDS, PHIL ROTOR AND THOMAS HUDSON FROM
1:13:49PM THE FOREST HILLS ASSOCIATION ARE HERE.
1:13:51PM SO I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN SUAREZ FOR THAT.
1:13:54PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MAY I?
1:13:57PM MR. TERRITO, THE LIST OF DESIGNATED PARKS AND ALL PUBLIC
1:14:05PM LANDS, I WANT THAT BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
1:14:09PM >>SAL TERRITO: I CAN DO THAT NOW IF YOU LIKE IT.
1:14:11PM I HAVE A COPY.
1:14:13PM IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
1:14:14PM I'LL DO IT.
1:14:15PM IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
1:14:17PM IT'S QUITE A LONG LIST.
1:14:20PM I SHALL DO.
1:14:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: WERE WE TO TAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE AT
1:14:25PM ALL?
1:14:26PM THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
1:14:28PM ONWARDS TO 93.
1:14:30PM >> PAUL DIAL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
1:14:44PM THIS DOVETAILS FROM THE CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD
1:14:47PM REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF DESIGNATION OF YELLOW JACKET LITTLE
1:14:51PM LEAGUE BALLPARK, AND WITH THAT THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED US TO
1:14:54PM COME BACK TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FOR CONSIDERING RENAMING
1:14:58PM OF THE NEW RELOCATED BALLPARK AFTER THE YELLOW JACKETS
1:15:03PM LITTLE LEAGUE BECAUSE OF THEIR COMMITMENT AND INVOLVEMENT IN

1:15:05PM THE COMMUNITY.
1:15:07PM TO REPORT BACK IF THAT'S FEASIBLE AND WHEN IT COULD TAKE
1:15:10PM PLACE.
1:15:10PM WITH THAT, I AM PLEASED TO REPORT WE LOOKED AT THIS FROM
1:15:14PM STAFF LEVEL.
1:15:16PM THE MAYOR SUPPORTED THIS.
1:15:17PM THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
1:15:22PM DOES AS WELL.
1:15:23PM WITH THIS, WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION
1:15:25PM TO THE YELLOW JACKETS FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
1:15:29PM WE LOOKED AT THE ISSUE.
1:15:31PM AND AS WE LOOKED AT THE ISSUE WE FOUND ONE LITTLE GLITCH.
1:15:35PM WITHDREW IT AND I THINK WE CAME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION FOR
1:15:38PM THIS, IS THAT AS WE LOOKED AT THE FACILITY, CALVIN TAYLOR
1:15:44PM PARK, WHICH IS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RELOCATED AT, THE
1:15:49PM BALLFIELD COMPLEX THERE MENTIONED RENAMING THE BALLFIELD AT
1:15:53PM THE LOCATION THERE, THE YELLOW JACKETS.
1:15:55PM BUT WITH THAT ACTUALLY THE COMPLEX IS CURRENTLY THE KEVIN
1:16:01PM SUAREZ SOFTBALL COMPLEX THAT IS THERE.
1:16:04PM AND WITH THAT, KEN SUAREZ, NATIVE OF TAMPA WHO PLAYED FOR
1:16:07PM THE KANSAS CITY A'S, THE CLEVELAND INDIANS AND TEXAS
1:16:12PM RANGERS.
1:16:13PM I BELIEVE HE LIVES IN TEXAS, I BELIEVE.
1:16:16PM A CATCHER.
1:16:17PM AND SO WITH THAT, WE LOOKED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE

1:16:20PM ARE DOING WITHIN THE PARKS AND OTHER LOCATIONS, AND WHAT WE
1:16:23PM HAVE COME BACK WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION WITH THIS, THE REMEDY
1:16:27PM IS TO -- IT WOULD REMAIN CALVIN TAYLOR PARK, BUT WITH THAT,
1:16:32PM IT WOULD BE AT THE FACILITY WOULD BE YELLOW JACKETS LITTLE
1:16:36PM LEAGUE FIELD AT KEN SUAREZ SPORTS COMPLEX, WHICH WE STILL
1:16:41PM HAVE ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED AND RESPECT ALL THE PARTIES
1:16:44PM INVOLVED.
1:16:45PM AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF THIS, WE ARE LOOKING TO BE STARTING
1:16:48PM THE SEASON IN JANUARY.
1:16:49PM WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF STAFF WORKING IN-HOUSE TO MAKE
1:16:51PM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK.
1:16:54PM WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THEY WILL BE STARTING THE SEASON IN
1:16:57PM JANUARY, AND THE LAST THING, AND THE SIGNAGE TO BE PUT IN
1:17:02PM PLACE AT THAT TIME.
1:17:03PM THE LAST THING I WOULD WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE PLEASED
1:17:06PM ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AND TRYING TO FIND A
1:17:09PM PARTNER, IN ADDITION TO THE DOLLARS THAT THE CITY HAS, TO
1:17:12PM IMPROVE THE PARK, TO LOOK AT ANOTHER PARTNER TO ASSIST US,
1:17:17PM AND WE JUST GOT A VERBAL COMMITMENT AND THEY TOLD US WE
1:17:20PM WOULD GET NOTED TODAY THAT THE TAMPA BAY RAYS ARE GOING TO
1:17:24PM BE WORKING WITH US AT THE PARK TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL
1:17:28PM IMPROVEMENTS THERE FOR US, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ARE DOING
1:17:31PM THERE, AND WITH THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME WIND
1:17:36PM SCREENS TO MAKE THE PARK A LITTLE NICER, PARKING WITH THE
1:17:40PM GROUNDS CREWS THERE AS WELL, AND SOME CLINIC WORK.

1:17:44PM SO ALL THAT IN PARTNERSHIP TO WORK THE FIELD EVEN MORE.
1:17:49PM SO THAT IS OUR INTENT FROM HERE.
1:17:50PM HOPEFULLY WE WANT TO WELCOME THE YELLOW JACKETS, AND
1:17:53PM HOPEFULLY THAT IS SUPPORTED.
1:17:55PM >>SAL TERRITO: LEGAL DEPARTMENT AGAIN.
1:18:05PM MAY I ASK YOU TO PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION?
1:18:08PM I KNOW IT SOUND LIKE A BIT MUCH BUT WAVE A POLICY ON NAME
1:18:13PM RIGHTS SO IF YOU PUT IN A MOTION TO THAT GENTLEMAN, HE WILL
1:18:17PM COME BACK AND SAY LET'S DO IT BUT MAKE IT FORMAL.
1:18:19PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
1:18:24PM >> IT'S STILL TO BE NAMED SUAREZ ALTHOUGH HE'S NOT RELATED
1:18:29PM TO ME SO THAT'S GREAT.
1:18:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 94.
1:18:34PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.
1:18:46PM I'M ALSO HERE WITH STEVEN BENSON OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
1:18:52PM TRANSPORTATION TO SHARE SOME BRIEF INFORMATION ON STEPS THAT
1:18:56PM BOTH OF OUR ANALYSIS HAD TAKEN OR PLANNING TO TAKE IN THE
1:18:59PM AREA OF FLORIDA AND HIGHLAND AVENUES.
1:19:04PM AROUND THE AREA OF OSBORNE AND VIOLET.
1:19:07PM I HAVE A SHORT ONE-PAGE HANDOUT I WAS GOING TO MUTT ON THE
1:19:11PM ELMO IF YOU LIKE I WILL SHARE A COPY OF THAT WITH YOU ALL AS
1:19:15PM WELL.
1:19:35PM I WILL GO OVER QUICKLY A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THE CITY OF
1:19:37PM TAMPA EITHER HAS WORKED ON OR IS WORKING ON TO IMPROVE
1:19:42PM SAFETY IN THIS GENERAL AREA.

1:19:44PM WE HAVE HAD A FEW CRASHES RECENTLY OF WHICH HAVE BEEN QUITE
1:19:49PM DISTURBING, THE MOST RECENT WHERE A CAR ACTUALLY DROVE INTO
1:19:52PM SOMEONE'S HOME.
1:19:54PM TPD, WE HAVE GOT OUR TPD OFFICERS HERE.
1:19:57PM THEY HAVE BEEN OUT ENFORCING THE SPEED LIMIT IN THE AREA
1:20:00PM ENCOURAGING SAFE DRIVING BY THEIR PRESENCE, AND THEY ARE
1:20:03PM GOING TO CONTINUE TO RAMP UP EFFORTS IN THIS AREA.
1:20:08PM ALL OF US HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THESE PROPOSED
1:20:10PM CHANGES THAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS.
1:20:14PM SO JUST QUICKLY, OSBORNE AVENUE IS ONE OF THE STREETS WITHIN
1:20:18PM THIS AREA, CITY STREET.
1:20:20PM IT'S A LEG OF ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS.
1:20:23PM AND WE MADE SOME STEPS TO MAKE THAT LEG OF THAT INTERSECTION
1:20:27PM SAFER, LOOKING AT THE TIMING OF THE SIGNAL AT OSBORNE AND
1:20:31PM HIGH LAND AVENUE.
1:20:32PM WE HAVE ALREADY TRIMMED SOME TREE LIMBS WHICH WERE BLOCKING
1:20:36PM THE SIGNAGE AND SIGNAL WHICH IS CAUSING SOME ISSUES FOR
1:20:39PM DRIVERS.
1:20:40PM SO THAT'S TAKING PLACE.
1:20:42PM WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME PAVEMENT STRIPING AS IS THE
1:20:47PM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THAT YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT
1:20:50PM THESE RED ARROWS ON THE GRAPHIC, CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF THE
1:20:55PM ONE-WAY ROADWAY, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS WHEN THEY ARE
1:20:59PM GOING TO MAKE A TURN AT THE INTERSECTION, TOE ONLY GO IN THE
1:21:02PM DIRECTION OF THAT ROAD IS GOING.

1:21:03PM SO WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING THESE MARKINGS ON THE PAVEMENT
1:21:07PM TO ENCOURAGE A LEFT OR A RIGHT ONLY, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY
1:21:11PM BE, TO ADD REINFORCEMENT TO DRIVERS THAT THEY CANNOT GO THE
1:21:15PM OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE ONE-WAY ROAD.
1:21:18PM I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL.
1:21:19PM SO THOSE ARE QUICK THINGS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.
1:21:22PM WE ALSO HAVE AN ENGINEERING STUDY GOING ON LOOKING AT
1:21:26PM POTENTIALLY PUTTING A STOP CONDITION AT HIGHLAND AND
1:21:30PM OSBORNE.
1:21:31PM AND SOME LONGER-TERM THINGS THAT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE
1:21:36PM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON TO ACTUALLY REWORK THAT
1:21:39PM ENTIRE CORRIDOR OF HIGHLAND AVENUE TO BE MORE WHAT WE CALL A
1:21:43PM COMPLETE STREET, POSSIBLY TAKING OUT A TRAVEL LANE, WIDENING
1:21:47PM OF SIDEWALKS.
1:21:48PM SIDEWALKS ARE NOT ADA COMPLIANT.
1:21:50PM THE RAMPS AREN'T COMPLIANT.
1:21:52PM WE ARE GOING TO ADD MORE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IN THAT CORRIDOR.
1:21:55PM AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE THAT LONGER PLAN GOING FORWARD.
1:21:59PM BUT IN THE SHORT TERM WE HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS OR
1:22:02PM WILL DO IN TERMS OF SIGNAGE AND MARKINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
1:22:06PM MAKE IT MUCH SAFER.
1:22:07PM I'LL LET STEVEN BENSON SHARE A LITTLE BIT WHAT THE DOT IS
1:22:13PM DOING AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS.
1:22:14PM >> STEVEN BENSON, FDOT.
1:22:20PM I HAD ALSO SOME DIAGRAMS HERE TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE WORK

1:22:23PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING.
1:22:25PM WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED SOME OF THE TREE TRIMMING IN THE
1:22:28PM AREA THAT WE THINK WAS CAUSING SOME OF THE SITE
1:22:32PM OBSTRUCTIONS, ESPECIALLY APPROACHING OSBORNE.
1:22:35PM WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC AT OSBORNE TO ADD
1:22:40PM ADDITIONAL HEAD SO EACH HAS ITS OWN SIGNAL HEAD.
1:22:43PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
1:22:46PM ACTUALLY GOING ALONG THE SIDEWALKS AND THE ROADSIDE, A LOT
1:22:49PM OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS OVERGROWN, AND
1:22:52PM JUST CLEARING ALL OF THAT OUT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S
1:22:55PM VISIBILITY THERE FOR CARS APPROACHING BOTH INTERSECTIONS.
1:22:58PM WE ARE ALSO ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT MARKINGS HERE AS
1:23:01PM SHOWN TO REINFORCE THE 15 MILE-AN-HOUR ADVISORY SPEED FOR
1:23:05PM THE CURBS CURVES. SO THAT'S 15 MILE-AN-HOUR MARKINGS WILL
1:23:10PM BE PLACED IN THE ACTUAL TRAVEL LANE IN LARGE LETTERS ON THE
1:23:15PM SOUTHBOUND APPROACH TO VIOLET ON FLORIDA.
1:23:20PM HERE IN THIS DIAGRAM, AS WELL AS REPLACEMENT OF ONE OF THE
1:23:25PM SIGNS THAT HAD BEEN FADING YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE DIAGRAM.
1:23:30PM SO WE ARE GOING TO BE REPLACING THAT SIGN.
1:23:33PM AND THEN ALSO PUTTING THE 15 MILE-PER-HOUR MARKINGS, FOUR
1:23:40PM SETS OF THEM ALONG VIOLET SO AS YOU APPROACH THE ISLAND YOU
1:23:47PM SEE THE 15 MILE PER HOUR ADVISORY SPEED BEFORE YOU GET TO
1:23:50PM THE CURVE.
1:23:52PM WE ARE ALSO REPLACING THESE CHEVRON SIGNS ON THE APPROACH.
1:23:55PM THAT'S THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT OF THE SIGNS, ONE OF THE HOUSES

1:23:59PM THAT WAS HIT, AS WELL AS INSTALLING THE TEMPORARY FLEX POSTS
1:24:05PM ALONG THAT WHOLE CURVE ON THE APPROACH.
1:24:08PM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED SO IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY
1:24:11PM YOU WILL SEE THEM WITH THE REFLECTIVE STRIPING.
1:24:14PM THEY ARE PRETTY HARD TO MISS.
1:24:15PM AND THIS IS THE LOCATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING
1:24:18PM THOSE POSTS THERE AS WELL.
1:24:25PM ON THE APPROACH TO OSBORNE, WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING,
1:24:29PM THAT THE CITY HAD BEEN DOING, PUTTING ADDITIONAL TURN ARROW
1:24:31PM MARKINGS SO DRIVERS CAN ONLY TURN FROM THE OUTSIDE LANES.
1:24:36PM SEVERAL OF THOSE CRASHES AT OSBORNE HAD TO DO WITH DRIVER
1:24:40PM MAKING A LEFT FROM THE INSIDE LANE, AND SO THESE MARKINGS
1:24:44PM HOPEFULLY ENFORCE THAT.
1:24:46PM AND THEN THE SINGLE MARKINGS THERE ARE GOING TO BE ADDED AS
1:24:50PM WELL.
1:24:52PM WHEN WE REVIEWED THE SPECIFIC CRASHES AT THE OSBORNE AND
1:24:55PM HIGHLAND LOCATIONS SINCE 2015 THERE HAVE BEEN 15 ANGLE
1:24:59PM CRASHES, AND 13 OF THOSE 15 HAD TO DO WITH RED LIGHT
1:25:04PM RUNNING, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOME RED LIGHT RUNNING
1:25:06PM ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
1:25:09PM WE THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY AS WELL AS THE TREE
1:25:11PM TRIMMING.
1:25:13PM WE ALSO HAD A PROJECT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSIVE BUT
1:25:17PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET OUT THERE WITHIN SIX MONTHS
1:25:19PM TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE WAY THE LANES MERGE ONTO VIOLET

1:25:24PM STREET.
1:25:24PM RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TOE CHANGE LANES TO CONTINUE TO GO ONTO
1:25:28PM HIGHLAND.
1:25:31PM THIS DIAGRAM EXPLAINS IT BETTER.
1:25:32PM IF YOU ARE HEADING SOUTHBOUND IN THIS DIRECTION TO TURN ONTO
1:25:35PM VIOLET IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU DIRECTLY INTO THE TWO LANES
1:25:38PM THAT NEED TO BE IN TO CONTINUE TO TURN LEFT ONTO HIGH LAND
1:25:42PM RATHER THAN HAVING TO SWITCH LANES OVER E OVER.
1:25:45PM ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE NOTICED IS THAT TRAFFIC THAT WANTS TO
1:25:47PM CONTINUE SOUTH THROUGH THIS CURVE HAS TO MERGE TO THE LEFT
1:25:51PM AND THE TRAFFIC ON NORTHBOUND FLORIDA THAT WANTS TO GO TO
1:25:53PM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND BYPASS THE LIGHT ON FLORIDA, THEY
1:25:56PM ARE DOING THE SAME THING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TRYING TO
1:25:59PM GET OVER TO HIGHLAND TO MAKE A RIGHT TO GO NORTH.
1:26:02PM SO THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE STOPPED AND HAS TO YIELD TO
1:26:05PM THE SOUTHBOUND FLORIDA AVENUE TRAFFIC.
1:26:07PM SO HOPEFULLY THAT CONDITION WILL MAKE IT OPERATE A LITTLE
1:26:10PM BETTER AND WON'T BE REQUIRING PEOPLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON
1:26:15PM THE FLY AS MUCH.
1:26:16PM WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE MODIFYING THIS CURVE RIGHT THERE AT
1:26:19PM THAT SAME HOUSE TO PERMIT A LITTLE MORE ROOM FOR THOSE LANES
1:26:24PM COMING AROUND.
1:26:25PM IT'S ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT FOR THAT HART BUS TO MAKE THE LEFT
1:26:28PM TURN WITHOUT GOING OVER INTO THE SECOND LANE.
1:26:31PM SO THAT WILL BE DONE ON THIS PROJECT WITHIN THE NEXT SIX

1:26:34PM MONTHS.
1:26:34PM I CAN PROVIDE THIS DOCUMENT TO YOU ALL.
1:26:36PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
1:26:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN COHEN, THEN I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN
1:26:43PM MANISCALCO.
1:26:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SO CLOSE TO YOU YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN
1:26:48PM ME.
1:26:49PM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS IN MY MIND THAT YOU CAN DO.
1:26:52PM FIRST OF ALL THE DIVIDER, TALK IN GENERAL, THROUGHOUT THE
1:26:55PM CITY, THE DIVIDER BETWEEN STREETS WHEN YOU MAKE A LEFT-HAND
1:26:58PM TURN, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THEM BECAUSE THE YELLOW POINT IS
1:27:01PM GONE FOR 99.9% OF THEM.
1:27:03PM THEY HAVE BEEN GONE FOR SO LONG THE CONCRETE HAS BEEN HIT SO
1:27:07PM MANY TIMES THAT THE CONCRETE IS NOW GONE.
1:27:09PM SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME AND A LITTLE BIT
1:27:12PM OF MONEY TO CHANGE THAT, PAINT THEM BRIGHT YELLOW AND AT
1:27:15PM LIGHT THEY SPARKLE.
1:27:16PM THE PAINT THAT WE HAD YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE.
1:27:19PM THE SAME THING, YOU HAD A LITTLE SIGN WITH THE ROAD DEVICE
1:27:23PM TELLING WHICH WAY THE ROAD IS.
1:27:24PM YOU CAN'T SEE IT AT NIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S NO RED STICKER ON
1:27:28PM THEM, OR YOU DON'T SEE THE STOP SIGN.
1:27:31PM I WOULD CREATE, IF I HAD TIME, I WILL GIVE YOU THE IDEA, A
1:27:36PM STOP SIGN WHEN THE SUN HITS ONE OF THOSE PANELS, LIKE A HEAT
1:27:41PM PANEL, AND JUST STOP AND BLINKS,

1:27:49PM BUT NOBODY THINKS OF THESE LITTLE THINGS.
1:27:51PM AS YOU DRIVE AROUND, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE WITH YOUR EYES OPEN.
1:27:55PM AND SEE THINGS.
1:27:56PM AND I AM NOT TALKING TO YOU.
1:27:57PM PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL.
1:27:58PM THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
1:28:00PM WE COULD DO THINGS WITH VERY LITTLE MONEY AND GET THE
1:28:03PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS INVOLVED, AND YOU COULD DO WONDERS
1:28:06PM IN THIS CITY BY GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT BY
1:28:10PM THEMSELVES.
1:28:11PM AND I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD COME FORWARD AND SAY, I
1:28:13PM VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO
1:28:16PM DO.
1:28:16PM NEIGHBORHOODS GO OUT AND CLEAN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS ON
1:28:19PM WEEKENDS, AFTER A HARD WEEK OF WORK AND THEY STILL WANT TO
1:28:22PM MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK BETTER AND NICER.
1:28:24PM AND IF WE DO THESE LITTLE, I THINK YOU HAVE A CITY WITH VERY
1:28:29PM LITTLE MONEY.
1:28:31PM AGAIN I WANT TO SAY THAT, WITH VERY LITTLE INVESTMENT, IT
1:28:34PM WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY MUCH SAFER IN THE CITY.
1:28:38PM WE HAVE TREES THAT COMB DOWN.
1:28:40PM AND WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING, THEY JUST DID MacDILL ABOUT A
1:28:44PM MONTH AGO, BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE A STOPLIGHT BECAUSE THE
1:28:46PM TREES WERE IN FRONT OF IT.
1:28:48PM COME AND FINALLY CUT THEM DOWN.

1:28:50PM BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNS THAT YOU CAN'T SEE BECAUSE THERE'S
1:28:53PM TREES IN FRONT OF THEM.
1:28:54PM AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH TREES BUT THE LIMBS HAVE TO
1:28:57PM BE DONE SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE THINGS.
1:28:59PM AND IT'S GO IT TO CHANGE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GET
1:29:02PM 40% WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
1:29:04PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:29:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
1:29:07PM COUNCILMAN COHEN.
1:29:07PM >>HARRY COHEN: YES, VERY BRIEFLY.
1:29:09PM I WANT TO COMMEND EVERYONE THAT'S WORKED ON THIS,
1:29:12PM PARTICULARLY THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AND FDOT FOR MOVING SO
1:29:14PM QUICKLY.
1:29:16PM LAST WEEK, AFTER OUR NIGHT MEETING CONCLUDED, I HELPED UP
1:29:20PM FLORIDA AVENUE TOWARDS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND WHEN I GOT TO
1:29:23PM THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION AREA, I THOUGHT I WAS IN A
1:29:28PM PINBALL MACHINE.
1:29:29PM I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE WAY THAT CARS WERE CAREENING BACK
1:29:33PM AND FORTH OVER THE LINES BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT FIGURE OUT
1:29:35PM HOW TO CROSS THE LANES.
1:29:36PM AND I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE
1:29:41PM CHANGES SO QUICKLY.
1:29:42PM AND I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
1:29:45PM SO THANK YOU.
1:29:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:29:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO
1:29:52PM JEAN DUNCAN AND FDOT AND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
1:29:54PM ACTING QUICKLY OPENING THIS.
1:29:56PM I SPOKE TO SECRETARY GWYNN.
1:30:03PM TPD HAS BEEN OUT THERE PATROLLING THE AREA. THIS MORNING I
1:30:06PM GOT A TEXT MESSAGE AROUND 6:00 OR 6:30 SAYING WE HAVE
1:30:11PM UNMARKED CARS -- I'M SORRY, SHE SAID I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO
1:30:14PM HAPPY TO HEAR SIRENS THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING BECAUSE THEY
1:30:16PM WERE PULLING PEOPLE OVER.
1:30:18PM LAST WEEK I WAS WITH A GROUP OF RESIDENTS THERE WITH VISION
1:30:21PM ZERO SIGNS THAT SAY, SLOW DOWN, OR SAVE LIVES, OR PUT YOUR
1:30:25PM PHONE DOWN.
1:30:25PM TPD WAS OUT THERE.
1:30:27PM ONE OFFICER PULLED UP TO THE CURB AND SAID WE ARE HERE TO
1:30:30PM SUPPORT YOU AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
1:30:32PM SINCE THEN YOU GUYS HAVE SPRUNG INTO ACTION.
1:30:35PM I HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH THE AREA IN THE MORNING AND IN THE
1:30:37PM NIGHTTIME TO GET, DOWN HIGHLAND, FLORIDA, CUT THROUGH
1:30:42PM VIOLET, YOU PUT THE TEMPORARY DIVIDERS, SIGNAGE.
1:30:46PM THEY ARE CLEANING UP EVERYTHING.
1:30:48PM AND I THINK IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
1:30:50PM I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT IN THAT AREA, AND
1:30:53PM THEY ARE TELLING ME PEOPLE ARE SLOWING DOWN.
1:30:54PM I HAD PEOPLE SEND ME VIDEOS SAYING, THE TRAFFIC IS COMING
1:30:58PM ALMOST TO A COMPLETE STOP.

1:31:00PM SO CHANGE IS COMING.
1:31:02PM BECAUSE LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING, CARS ARE DRIVING INTO
1:31:05PM HOUSES.
1:31:06PM THIS IS UNHEARD OF.
1:31:07PM I MEAN, WE SEE WHAT HAPPENED ON BAYSHORE AND HOW QUICK
1:31:10PM THINGS MOVED.
1:31:14PM HAVING SAID THAT, AND I DID BRING THIS UP TO MRS. DUNCAN A
1:31:17PM FEW MONTHS AGO REGARDING THE SPEED LIMIT, ON HIGHLAND FROM
1:31:22PM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE TO VIOLET IS 30 MIMES.
1:31:28PM ONCE IT GOES PAST VIOLATE AND DISTRIBUTION IT GOES TO 40
1:31:33PM MILES PER HOUR.
1:31:33PM DO PEOPLE FOLLOW THE SPEED LIMIT?
1:31:35PM NO.
1:31:35PM BUT WHEN THEY SEE 40 MILES PER HOUR THEY FIGURE I CAN GO 45
1:31:38PM OR 50.
1:31:39PM WHEN YOU HAVE IT MAYBE 30 MILES AN HOUR AND YOU HAVE MAYBE
1:31:42PM 35.
1:31:42PM BUT EITHER WAY, AT LEAST YOU KNOW PSYCHOLOGICALLY THEY MAY
1:31:46PM WANT TO SHOW DOWN AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
1:31:49PM EVEN OSBORNE AVENUE, AND I DID MENTION THIS TO MRS. DUNCAN
1:31:52PM REGARDING POSSIBLY THINKING ABOUT THE RUMBLE STRIPS.
1:31:57PM I KNOW THEY ARE LOUD.
1:31:59PM I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE HOW
1:32:02PM THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.
1:32:03PM BUT EVEN IF THAT IS A CONSIDERATION.

1:32:04PM BUT MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW YOU HAVE TELLS IN THE LONG TERM.
1:32:10PM YOU SAID SIX MONTHS AND THEN THERE'S COMPLETE STREET PROJECT
1:32:13PM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
1:32:14PM I REMEMBER PULLING UP AN ARTICLE FROM THE TAMPA TRIBUNE,
1:32:17PM 1961-62, AND IT WAS PEOPLE THAT -- PEOPLE THAT LIVED ON
1:32:22PM VIOLET BEING INTERVIEWED SAYING THIS IS GOING TO TURN IN
1:32:24PM INTO A SPEEDWAY, AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
1:32:27PM IT WAS A TWO-WAY RESIDENTIAL STREET AND NOW CONVERTED INTO
1:32:31PM THAT THAT YOU SEE NOW.
1:32:34PM FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS, WE ARE REACHING THAT ANNIVERSARY, THAT
1:32:37PM AREA AND THOSE NEIGHBORS HAVE SUFFERED WITH THAT CONTINUOUS
1:32:41PM RACETRACK STYLE.
1:32:42PM SO I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE FINALLY ADDRESSING IT.
1:32:44PM I AM GOING TO BE IN CONTACT AS I AM WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
1:32:47PM TO SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE AND MAINTAIN THAT LINE OF
1:32:51PM COMMUNICATION.
1:32:51PM BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
1:32:53PM I MEAN, IN LESS AN WEEK, FOLKS HAVE SPRUNG TO ACTION.
1:32:57PM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
1:32:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
1:33:00PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
1:33:02PM I WILL REITERATE WHAT MIMI COLLEAGUES SAID.
1:33:06PM THANK YOU FOR FDOT AND JEAN DUNCAN FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION
1:33:09PM DEPARTMENT COMING TOGETHER AND MAKING SURE THIS THING WAS
1:33:11PM DONE QUICKLY.

1:33:12PM WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE PROBLEMS GOING FORWARD FROM THE VERY
1:33:15PM BEGINNING IN THAT SECTION.
1:33:16PM THE HIGHLAND AVENUE AREA THAT GOES PAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
1:33:21PM GOES THROUGH IT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IN THE FUTURE FDOT
1:33:24PM IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE UNLIKE WHERE IT
1:33:27PM MERGES WITH TAMPA STREET AFTER YOU GO THROUGH MLK, IT IS
1:33:31PM MUCH QUICKER, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT PASS-THROUGH HAS BECOME
1:33:35PM MORE OF A PLACE IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THROUGH
1:33:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND NOT ACTUALLY SLOWING DOWN.
1:33:41PM THE SPEED LIMIT AS MR. MANISCALCO SAID IS PROBABLY A GOOD
1:33:44PM IDEA AND MAYBE REDUCING THAT AT SOME POINT.
1:33:47PM IN ADDITION, MR. MIRANDA MENTIONED ABOUT THE LITTLE THINGS
1:33:50PM THAT WE COULD BE DOING IN ORDER TO TRY TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
1:33:56PM WE WOULD BE ALL FOR OF TRANSPORTATION IF WE EVER GET A
1:33:58PM CHANCE TO DEAL WITH IT SINCE IT'S NOW UNDERSTOOD LITIGATION.
1:34:02PM THOSE TYPE OF THINGS CAN BE DONE QUICKER.
1:34:04PM WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE SOME DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN PUT
1:34:07PM SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE.
1:34:09PM YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT TRYING TO IMPROVE SAFETY, EACH AND
1:34:12PM EVERY DAY, EVERYTHING FROM OUR SIDEWALKS TO WHETHER OR NOT
1:34:16PM WE DO STREET MURALS, AS MR. LYTLE MENTIONED THIS MORNING,
1:34:21PM THOSE ARE THINGS THAT BE PUT INTO NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW.
1:34:24PM IF WE HAVE MORE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THERE'S NO DOUBT
1:34:26PM THAT WE CAN DO IT.
1:34:27PM AND I THINK THAT THIS SECRETARY, THIS DISTRICT SECRETARY FOR

1:34:30PM FDOT, MR. GWYNN, AND OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WORK
1:34:35PM VERY WELL TOGETHER.
1:34:36PM AND I WILL SAY THIS.
1:34:37PM I HAVE SAID IT TO MR. GWYNN WHEN WE MET LAST WEEK.
1:34:42PM BUT HE IS A TERRIFIC BREATH OF FRESH AIR FOR FDOT.
1:34:46PM HE RESPONDS TO OUR REQUESTS.
1:34:48PM ALMOST AS QUICKLY AS WE SEND THEM.
1:34:50PM HE RESPONDS TO CONSTITUENT CONCERNS WHEN HE GETS AN E-MAIL.
1:34:54PM AND I HAVE SEEN HIM RESPOND TO ESPECIALLY MAURICIO ROSAS WHO
1:35:01PM IS CONSTANTLY SENDING OUT E-MAILS.
1:35:03PM AND HE REALLY DOES WANT TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR US.
1:35:06PM SO THANK YOU TO YOU, MR. BENSON, AND TOP MR. GWYNN, AND
1:35:12PM THANK YOU TO JEAN AND HER STAFF FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
1:35:14PM LET CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS UP BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE UP WITH OF
1:35:17PM THESE STREETS ARE IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE
1:35:19PM SERVE.
1:35:19PM I WANT TO MANGE SURE THAT WE CAN DO AS MANY SAFETY CHANGES
1:35:24PM SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE KIND OF PROBLEMS.
1:35:27PM AND I THINK THE LAST THING WHEN WE SEE A CAR FLIPPED OVER AT
1:35:33PM OSBORNE AND VIOLET, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BAD ONE, WHEN
1:35:37PM YOU SEE A GAY ON CAMERA, MATTER OF FACTLY SAYING, OH, YEAH,
1:35:41PM I FLIPPED MY CAR.
1:35:42PM I HAVE NEVER FLIPPED MY CAR IN MY ENTIRE LIFE OF DRIVING AND
1:35:45PM THIS GUY ACTED AS IF THIS HAPPENS EVERY DAY FOR HIM.
1:35:48PM AND WHEN YOU SEE A TURNED-OVER CAR IT'S RIDICULOUS.

1:35:51PM SOMEBODY WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
1:35:53PM OBVIOUSLY, I THINK HE WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG, TOO, TO BE
1:35:56PM GO THAT FAST, TO TURN OVER A CAR.
1:35:58PM SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID, AND WE
1:36:01PM APPRECIATE IT.
1:36:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT 94 B, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
1:36:10PM AND BEFORE WE GO THERE, I HAVE BEEN KICKING FOUR CALLS THAT
1:36:14PM I NEEDED TO MAKE ABOUT AN HOUR AGO ON WHAT I CALL MY PRIVATE
1:36:17PM SECTOR.
1:36:21PM I PROBABLY HAVE TO LEAVE.
1:36:22PM >>HARRY COHEN: DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE LAST TWO ITEMS?
1:36:28PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THEM.
1:36:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, FOUR OF US HAVE TO LEAVE.
1:36:38PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET'S GET THROUGH THIS AND THEN MAKE IF YOU
1:36:44PM WANT TO LEAVE.
1:36:45PM THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
1:36:46PM YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONE OFFICER HAS BEEN HERE FOR AT LEAST AN
1:36:50PM HOUR AND A HALF OR TWO HOURS IF NOT LONGER.
1:36:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: SINCE COUNCILMAN REDDICK IS GONE.
1:37:08PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I BLENDED THE TPD
1:37:13PM COMPONENTS OF OUR ITEM TOGETHER WITH WHAT WE JUST SAID.
1:37:15PM SO IF IT'S OKAY, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED SO FAR.
1:37:21PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SINCE I WAS THE MAKER OF THAT MOTION, I
1:37:24PM DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
1:37:25PM WERE THERE ANY STATISTICS THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE WITH US?

1:37:29PM OR PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT MRS. DUNCAN AND MR. BENSON
1:37:32PM SAID IS ACCURATE AS TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING?
1:37:36PM >> YES.
1:37:37PM WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP.
1:37:38PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:37:39PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL
1:37:44PM QUESTIONS, CHAIR.
1:37:45PM THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR BEING HERE.
1:37:46PM >>HARRY COHEN: ARE WE GOING TO TAKE UP THE TREE ITEM?
1:37:55PM >> 95 AND 97.
1:37:58PM 96 IS OUT.
1:37:59PM >> LET'S DO 95.
1:38:02PM >> DID YOU NEED TO STEP OUT?
1:38:07PM >> I NEED TO STEP OUT.
1:38:08PM >> 95?
1:38:27PM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
1:38:29PM I AM GOING TO GO OVER THIS VERY BRIEFLY.
1:38:35PM I THINK THAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING THAT MRS. DUNCAN AND I
1:38:38PM HAD DISCUSSED THIS, OPTION 1, THAT YOU ARE RECEIVING IN THE
1:38:41PM HANDOUT HERE IS THE CLOSEST TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY AGREED TO
1:38:50PM BETWEEN THE TREE ADVOCATES AND THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS
1:38:54PM ASSOCIATION.
1:38:56PM I HAVE INCLUDED A COUPLE OTHER OPTIONS JUST SO THAT COME UP
1:38:58PM HAS ALL THE INFORMATION OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD
1:39:01PM STRUCTURE THIS.

1:39:03PM THE CURRENT CODE IS IN SORT OF THE BURGUNDY COLOR THERE.
1:39:09PM WE CURRENTLY ALLOW DESIGN EXCEPTIONS TO REDUCE YOUR SETBACKS
1:39:12PM IN ORDER TO SAVE ANY PROTECTED OR GRAND TREE.
1:39:15PM AND THE DESIGN EXCEPTION 2 IS A NOTICE PROCESS THAT SOMEONE
1:39:20PM WITHIN 250 FEET WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTERVENE IN THAT
1:39:23PM PROCESS AND THEN APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL IF THEY WERE NOT
1:39:26PM HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME OF THAT PROCESS.
1:39:30PM WHAT IS PROPOSED IS TO MAKE IN OPTION 1 HERE IS TO MAKE 25%
1:39:37PM FRONT YARD, ONE-FOOT SIDE YARD.
1:39:40PM THOSE ARE THE SAME AS OTHER DESIGN EXCEPTIONS TODAY, BUT
1:39:44PM THEN GOING ONE STEP FURTHER FOR A 40% REAR YARD, THEN AS A
1:39:50PM RECENT ADD-ON, SOME DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THE
1:39:54PM TREE ADVOCATES, A 10% BUILDING HEIGHT AS WELL, TO ALLOW EACH
1:39:57PM OF THOSE AS AN AUTOMATIC PROVISION OF OUR CODE.
1:40:01PM AND THAT WOULD BE -- THERE WOULD NOT BE A NOTICE FOR THAT.
1:40:04PM THERE WOULD NOT BE AN AVAILABLE APPEAL PROCESS.
1:40:07PM IT WOULD JUST BE AN AUTOMATIC PROVISION THAT IF THEY MET THE
1:40:11PM CRITERIA, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT AT THE PERMITTING
1:40:14PM PROCESS.
1:40:16PM ON THE LAST PAGE THERE YOU SEE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT
1:40:20PM PROCESSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
1:40:21PM THAT COULD ALSO BE A DESIGN EXCEPTION 1.
1:40:26PM AND ANY ONE OF THOSE OR ALL OF THOSE COULD BE DESIGN
1:40:29PM EXCEPTION 1 WHICH IS ALSO NOT NOTICED, BUT IT IS AN
1:40:32PM APPLICATION, IT IS REVIEWED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND

1:40:35PM THERE IS AN ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO INTERVENE AND APPEAL THAT
1:40:39PM TO CITY COUNCIL.
1:40:40PM SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU.
1:40:43PM IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US DIRECTION ABOUT WHICH ONE OF THESE TO
1:40:46PM MOVE FORWARD IN ORDINANCE FORM TO BRING ON JANUARY 17th
1:40:50PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO.
1:40:51PM >>HARRY COHEN: SO JUST SINCE WE ARE SHORT ON TIME, UNLESS
1:40:55PM ANYONE HAS ANY MAJOR OBJECTIONS, I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE
1:40:59PM TO SUGGEST WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION 1.
1:41:01PM I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, TO CLARIFY.
1:41:05PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE ANYTHING UNDER 65 FEET IN
1:41:09PM FRONTAGE, CORRECT?
1:41:11PM ISN'T THAT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO APPLY TO?
1:41:13PM IT'S NOT GOING TO APPLY TO ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT?
1:41:16PM >>KRISTIN MORA: THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL, WHAT WE HAVE PUT
1:41:19PM IN FRONT OF YOU.
1:41:20PM NOW, IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING TO CORRESPOND SOLELY WITH THE
1:41:25PM TREE REMOVAL ZONE QUALIFIED LOTS, WE COULD DO THAT IN THE
1:41:28PM ALTERNATIVE.
1:41:29PM >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I PERSONALLY THINK IT SHOULD.
1:41:32PM I THINK IT SHOULD TRACK WITH THE OTHER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT
1:41:35PM WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE MUCH LARGER LOTS, THERE'S
1:41:38PM ALREADY A LOT OF ROOM TO MANEUVER WITHIN SETBACKS.
1:41:41PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
1:41:42PM BUT NUMBER TWO, THIS QUESTION CAME UP FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD

1:41:49PM THAT HAS -- AND IT WAS ACTUALLY PARKLAND ESTATES THAT HAS A
1:41:52PM DIFFERENT SET OF SETBACKS THAN THE REST OF THE CITY.
1:41:59PM THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO THESE DIFFERENT
1:42:02PM SETBACKS WERE CODIFIED AND THEY HAVE KEPT UP WITH THESE OVER
1:42:05PM THE YEARS.
1:42:06PM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
1:42:08PM >>HARRY COHEN: I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH
1:42:10PM ANY KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS THOSE TYPES OF SPECIFIC
1:42:12PM SETBACK DIFFERENCES, DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE MOVING THEM AROUND
1:42:17PM WITHIN THEIR SETBACKS IS -- IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME AS
1:42:22PM THE STANDARD EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.
1:42:25PM SO I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT WHEN YOU BRING
1:42:28PM US BACK THE ORDINANCE ON THE 17th, YOU GIVE US AN OPTION
1:42:32PM FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT, PERHAPS IN THE INTEREST OF TIME
1:42:36PM IF WE WANT TO SAY THAT WE CAN MEET ABOUT THAT AND TALK ABOUT
1:42:39PM THAT PRIVATE, WE CAN DO THAT.
1:42:40PM BUT WITH THAT SAID UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY MORE TO SAY, I
1:42:44PM WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION
1:42:47PM ONE.
1:42:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
1:42:49PM HOWEVER, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THEY
1:42:52PM HAVE SPECIFICS THROUGH THE LEGAL FORM, YOU CAN SAY I ACCEPT,
1:42:56PM IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THIS FOR SOME PERIOD OF
1:43:00PM TIME.
1:43:01PM AND I WILL PUT IT UP TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THAT.

1:43:04PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO IF WE CAN JUST CLEAR THAT AND IF THAT'S
1:43:06PM OKAY WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN THAT
1:43:09PM PARTICULAR VEIN BECAUSE MR. COHEN WANTED TO MAKE THAT
1:43:12PM MOTION.
1:43:12PM >>KRISTIN MORA: THE ONLY THING I WOULD MAYBE SEEK SOME
1:43:16PM CLARIFICATION ON IS THIS IS AN OPTION THAT ANYONE COULD USE,
1:43:22PM BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THEY COULD USE IN THE
1:43:25PM SITUATION OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
1:43:26PM I THINK THE CONCERN OF PARKLAND ESTATES COMES IN
1:43:30PM SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE REMOVAL ASPECT OF IT, AND
1:43:34PM WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS REQUIRED TO TRY TO SHIFT IN ORDER
1:43:37PM TO SAVE THE TREE.
1:43:39PM I THINK THAT YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A
1:43:44PM RECOGNITION IN WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.
1:43:47PM I THINK THAT WOULD GO, THOUGH, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE,
1:43:51PM NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS.
1:43:52PM THIS IS JUST AN ALLOWANCE OF WHAT SOMEONE COULD DO IF THEY
1:43:55PM ARE ABLE --
1:43:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
1:43:58PM THANK YOU.
1:43:58PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. COHEN, IF YOU COULD RESTATE THE MOTION.
1:44:02PM AND I KNOW MR. MIRANDA IS THE SECOND ON IT.
1:44:03PM >>HARRY COHEN: SO MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT THE LEGAL
1:44:06PM DEPARTMENT BRING US BACK AN ORDINANCE ON I BELIEVE IT WAS --
1:44:10PM WHAT WAS THE DATE WE SAID, JANUARY 17th?

1:44:13PM >>KRISTIN MORA: JANUARY 17th.
1:44:14PM >>HARRY COHEN: THAT BASICALLY FOLLOWS OPTION 1, BUT THAT
1:44:19PM RECOGNIZES THE LIMITATION ON THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE
1:44:23PM TALKED ABOUT.
1:44:23PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
1:44:26PM A SECOND FROM MR. MIRANDA.
1:44:28PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM?
1:44:30PM YES, SIR?
1:44:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT THAT TO COME BACK AS FIRST
1:44:33PM READING DISCUSSION OR BACK FOR DISCUSSION WITH STAFF?
1:44:36PM >>HARRY COHEN: IT SEEMS TO ME IF IT COMES BACK AS AN
1:44:38PM ORDINANCE WE CAN PASS IT ON FIRST READING IF WE SO CHOOSE.
1:44:41PM >>KRISTIN MORA: THIS IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION SO ON
1:44:47PM THE 17th IT WILL NEED TO BE TRANSMITTED.
1:44:51PM >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
1:44:54PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
1:44:59PM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
1:45:02PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CLERK, YOU ARE CLEAR?
1:45:03PM WE HAVE A MOTION.
1:45:04PM WE HAVE OUR SECOND.
1:45:05PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
1:45:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:45:08PM THANK YOU.
1:45:10PM WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 97, I BELIEVE, IS OUR NEXT ITEM.
1:45:15PM MR. SNELLING.

1:45:16PM >>THOM SNELLING: THANK YOU.
1:45:20PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HAVE YOU BEEN WAITING ALL DAY FOR THIS?
1:45:23PM >>THOM SNELLING: YES, SIR.
1:45:24PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M GLAD.
1:45:27PM >>THOM SNELLING: IT WAS AN INTERESTING MEETING.
1:45:29PM THOM SNELLING, PLANNING DIRECTOR, WITH MRS. GLORIA MOREDA
1:45:33PM AND MR. EDWIN NOVALES, FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
1:45:42PM FIRST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK AND
1:45:44PM IDENTIFY SOME OF THE OBSTACLES THAT EXISTED IN THE ZONING
1:45:48PM CODE OR ELSEWHERE, AND ALSO TO BRING BACK POTENTIAL OPTIONS,
1:45:52PM OR YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER GOING
1:45:54PM DOWN THIS PATH, AND TO ENCOURAGE TINY HOMES BEING BUILT IN
1:45:58PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:45:59PM FIRST OF ALL, WHERE WE ARE.
1:46:01PM WHERE WE ARE NOW, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, ALL OF THOSE ZONING
1:46:04PM DISTRICTS ALLOW FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT PEOPLE WERE
1:46:08PM OPINING ON EARLIER, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE OWNER OCCUPIED
1:46:14PM HAS TO LIVE IN THE MAIN HOUSE, COULD YOU PUT THE ACCESSORY
1:46:16PM STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, AND ANYBODY WHO YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE
1:46:19PM THERE, NOT JUST THE EXTENDED FAMILY COULD GO TO CITIZENS YOU
1:46:23PM ARE NOT EVEN RELATED TO.
1:46:24PM THAT'S ONE.
1:46:25PM THERE'S ALSO AN AREA --
1:46:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME, I BELIEVE THAT SEMINOLE
1:46:29PM HEIGHTS, IT CHANGED TO ANYONE NOW.

1:46:31PM >>THOM SNELLING: YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
1:46:34PM IT USED TO BE JUST THE EXTENDED -- YOU ARE CORRECT.
1:46:37PM AND IT DID INDEED GET CHANGED TO THAT.
1:46:40PM THAT WAS THE PROCESS THEY WENT THROUGH WHEN YOU WERE GOING
1:46:42PM THROUGH THE FORM-BASED CODE PROCESS SEVERAL YEARS AGO OR A
1:46:46PM FEW YEARS AGO.
1:46:47PM THERE'S ALSO A PART, IT'S LOWRY PARK AREA.
1:46:50PM NOW YOU HAVE THAT IDENTIFIED IN THE HANDOUT THAT I SENT YOU
1:46:53PM LAST WEEK, AND THE GENESIS OF THAT IS A PROPERTY OWNER WAS
1:47:01PM CITED.
1:47:01PM >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE.
1:47:05PM >>THOM SNELLING: THOM SNELLING, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
1:47:08PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:47:10PM >>THOM SNELLING: IN THE LOWRY PARK AREA AROUND THE ZOO, SHE
1:47:13PM HAD BEEN CITED FOR HAVING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE
1:47:16PM PROPERTY.
1:47:17PM SHE HAD A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION COME OUT OF IT.
1:47:19PM SHE WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT WANTING TO KEEP THAT.
1:47:24PM SHE HAD IT HAD FOR ALL THIS TIME.
1:47:26PM SHE PROPOSED A PRIVATE ZONING CODE AMENDMENT.
1:47:28PM COUNCIL AT THE TIME, TEN YEARS AGO, GLORIA?
1:47:32PM IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
1:47:34PM AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE
1:47:38PM PRIMARY RESIDENT LIVING IN THE MAIN HOUSE AND THEN PUT A
1:47:41PM TINY HOME IN THE BACK AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO BE ABLE

1:47:44PM TO BE RENTED TO ANYONE, NOT JUST FAMILY.
1:47:46PM SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO AREAS THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWED THAT
1:47:49PM KIND OF THING TO DO IT.
1:47:52PM YOU CAN PUT THEM IN VIRTUALLY ANY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT
1:47:55PM BECAUSE IT MEETS THE DENSITY AND YOU COULD PUT TINY HOMES
1:47:59PM THERE AND THAT KIND OF CLUSTER.
1:48:05PM THE OTHER AREA, YOU HAVE PROBABLY DRIVEN PAST THIS SEVERAL
1:48:08PM TIMES, ON FOURTH AVENUE IN YBOR CITY.
1:48:12PM THIS PERSON CAME THROUGH AND THEY HAD A LOT IN YBOR CITY
1:48:16PM ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWED FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, WITH
1:48:19PM THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY AND THIS SMALL SIZE LOTS, SO HE'S --
1:48:24PM YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SITE PLAN, HE'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY PUT
1:48:28PM IN FOUR UNITS IN.
1:48:29PM THESE TWO ARE BUILT.
1:48:30PM THIS ONE, I BELIEVE, IS CLOSE TO COMING R, HE'S GOING TO ADD
1:48:35PM A FOURTH ONE HERE.
1:48:36PM BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE PICTURE BOOK TINY HOME
1:48:40PM VILLAGE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:48:42PM AND SO THERE'S THAT ONE THERE.
1:48:47PM ALSO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO GO THROUGH A PD PROCESS AND YOU
1:48:50PM BROUGHT IN THE IDEA OF A TINY HOME VILLAGE, HAVE A PD, AS
1:48:54PM LONG AS YOU HAVE THE DENSITY, THEN YOU JUST NEED SITE
1:48:57PM REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
1:48:58PM AND THE THINGS YOU WOULD THINK YOU COULDN'T DO YOU JUST
1:49:00PM HANDLE WITH VARIOUS WAIVERS AND EXCEPTIONS, ET CETERA.

1:49:05PM YOU GUYS MAKE THOSE KIND OF ZONING DECISIONS ALL THE TIME.
1:49:09PM SO WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS? YOUR OPTIONS ARE YOU CAN EXPAND
1:49:13PM THE PLACES AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE
1:49:17PM SOMETHING SIMILAR TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS OR THE LOWRY PARK
1:49:20PM AREA.
1:49:22PM STRUCTURES, ALLOWANCES, VIRTUALLY THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE DONE
1:49:25PM FOR THOSE TWO AREAS.
1:49:26PM AND THAT WAY YOU WOULD EXPAND GREATLY THE PLACES WHERE
1:49:30PM ADDITIONAL TINY HOMES COULD BE BUILT.
1:49:33PM THAT WOULD PROBABLY -- YOU KNOW, AS I SAID IN THE MATERIAL I
1:49:37PM GAVE YOU, YOU MAY HAVE TO REVISE THE DEFINITION AND THINK
1:49:42PM ABOUT SOME OF THE PARKING ISSUES.
1:49:44PM BUT THOSE ARE RELATIVELY EASY FIXES.
1:49:46PM THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF TWEAKS TO THE EXISTING CODE.
1:49:50PM AND THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AS AN OPTION, IS THAT YOU HAVE A
1:49:56PM CHANCE TO POSSIBLY GET SOMETHING RIGHT THAT ON THE JANUARY
1:50:00PM CYCLE.
1:50:01PM YOU JUST HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW
1:50:03PM THAT PROCESS.
1:50:05PM GET SOMETHING STARTED IN JANUARY CYCLE AND THEN TAKE QUICKER
1:50:07PM ACTION TO EXPAND THE AREAS.
1:50:11PM NOT TO BE OVERLY OPTIMISTIC, THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS IN
1:50:16PM THAT SELECTING THE AREAS AS TO WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE THOSE
1:50:19PM THINGS TO BE EXPANDED.
1:50:20PM THAT WOULD REQUIRE, IF IT GOT INTO THE CYCLE, THAT TRIGGERS

1:50:24PM THE WORKSHOPS, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE DISCUSSION, AND ON
1:50:28PM AND ON, AND IT WILL VERY QUICKLY NARROW WHERE YOU THINK YOU
1:50:32PM CAN MOVE WITH THIS.
1:50:33PM THAT'S ONE OPTION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
1:50:36PM THE OTHER OPTION, WHICH IS A TOUGHER ROW TO HOE, IF YOU
1:50:44PM WILL, IS TO CREATE SMALLER FEE SIMPLE LOTS THAT, YOU KNOW,
1:50:49PM INSTEAD OF AN RS-50 WOULD BE AN RS 25, FOR EXAMPLE, SMALLER
1:50:54PM LOTS, THEN YOU HAVE TO LOW AT WHAT YOUR SETBACKS WOULD BE,
1:50:58PM WHICH I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW.
1:51:00PM YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER SITE
1:51:02PM REQUIREMENTS AS THEY APPLY TO THESE REDUCED SITE LOTS.
1:51:06PM BUT THE DRIVER IN ALL OF THAT IS THE DENSITY ISSUE.
1:51:09PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONTROLS
1:51:12PM THE DENSITIES OF THE VARIOUS LAND USE CATEGORIES THROUGHOUT
1:51:14PM THE CITY.
1:51:16PM NOTHING ALLOWS -- NO CURRENT DENSITY ALLOWANCES IN THE COMP
1:51:21PM PLAN ACCOUNTS FOR TINY HOMES.
1:51:22PM THE ONLY WAY THEY ACCOUNT FOR NOW IS THEY DO NOT ACCOUNT THE
1:51:26PM ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED IN SEMINOLE
1:51:29PM HEIGHTS AND IN LOWRY PARK, AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE FIRST
1:51:32PM OPTION, I RECOMMEND IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THOSE AS WELL.
1:51:35PM SO THAT TAKES THE DENSITY ISSUE OUT OF THE EQUATION.
1:51:38PM IF YOU WANTED TO CONDENSE AND CREATE SMALLER FEE SIMPLE
1:51:41PM LOTS, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE DENSITY QUESTION.
1:51:44PM THEREIN LIES THE BIG EFFORT.

1:51:46PM BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING A COMPREHENSIVE
1:51:49PM PLANNED LAND USE CHANGE.
1:51:51PM IT COULD TAKE SIX MONTHS DEPEND DEPENDING ON HOW IT GOES.
1:51:54PM AND THEN FROM THERE, THEN YOU HAVE TO CRAFT BRAND NEW ZONING
1:51:57PM DISTRICTS, BRAND NEW SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, BRAND NEW PARKING
1:52:01PM REQUIREMENTS, AND PROBABLY HAVE TO AMEND SOME OF YOUR
1:52:03PM DEFINITION AS TO WHAT IS A TINY HOME.
1:52:05PM BY THE WAY, EVERYTHING THAT I JUST EXPLAINED FOR THE TINY
1:52:07PM HOME BUILT ON YOUR OWN SITE OR TRAILERED THERE AND SECURED
1:52:11PM BY CODE ON YOUR SITE ALSO A PLACE TO THE SHIPPING
1:52:15PM CONTAINERS, COULD BE USED IN THE EXACT SAME WAY.
1:52:18PM SO DID NOT TOUCH ON THAT.
1:52:20PM >>HARRY COHEN: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I HAD BROUGHT THIS UP,
1:52:23PM AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE INFORMATION.
1:52:26PM I'M SURE WE ALL DO.
1:52:28PM IT SOUND TO ME, JUST HEARING IT FIRST GLANCE OF WHAT YOU ARE
1:52:32PM SAYING, THAT IN ORDER TO UNDERTAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS
1:52:34PM PROBABLY REQUIRES MORE TIME THAN WE HAVE AS A COUNCIL.
1:52:37PM I DON'T THINK WE COULD GET THIS DONE BEFORE OUR EXPIRATION
1:52:40PM DATE ON THE 1st OF MAY.
1:52:43PM I ALSO THINK THAT PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST FEW TIMES IF ANYONE
1:52:46PM WANTS TO MUCH DO THIS, THE PD PROCESS, PROBABLY WILL SUFFICE
1:52:50PM AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANT TO COME IN WITH
1:52:53PM SOME REALLY BOLD, OR CREATIVE IDEA.
1:52:57PM SO I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION RELATED TO THIS TODAY.

1:52:59PM TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR NOW.
1:53:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH,
1:53:03PM MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:53:03PM IF I MAY.
1:53:05PM BUT LET'S USE THE TERM AT THE END OF OUR TERM, NOT
1:53:07PM EXPIRATION DATE.
1:53:08PM EXPIRATION DAYLIGHT, THAT MEANS EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE
1:53:11PM GONE FOREVER.
1:53:12PM AND THAT'S NOT A FACT.
1:53:13PM >>HARRY COHEN: SOME OF US ARE GOING TO BE REINCARNATED.
1:53:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T MEAN IN OFFICE, I MEAN IN LIFE.
1:53:22PM BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
1:53:23PM I AGREE WITH YOU.
1:53:25PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. SNELL, I APPRECIATE IT TOO, DEPENDING ON
1:53:29PM THE DIRECTION WE TAKE, AND IF IT'S TAKEN UP BY A NEW COUNCIL
1:53:31PM OR NOT, I THINK WE DO NEED TO DIG INTO THESE A LITTLE MORE
1:53:35PM BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT MORE PROBLEMS IF WE DON'T.
1:53:37PM >>THOM SNELLING: AND I AGREE, SO I THINK IT'S AN IDEA WHOSE
1:53:43PM TIME HAS COME AND IT NEED TO BE VETTED, AND YOU ARE PROBABLY
1:53:46PM RIGHT, THE NEXT COUNCIL CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
1:53:52PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, MR. SNELL.
1:53:54PM BEFORE WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE
1:53:56PM TON CLEAR UP ONE ITEM FROM THE ADDENDA, WE NEED TO SET A
1:54:01PM PUBLIC HEARING FOR TWO SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTIONS.
1:54:04PM IS THAT CORRECT?

1:54:06PM IS THAT CORRECT?
1:54:07PM THAT'S IT?
1:54:08PM THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS GOING TO BE SET FOR THE
1:54:10PM SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION, AND THIS IS ON NEW BUSINESS THAT WAS
1:54:14PM A WALK-ON.
1:54:15PM IT CAME FROM ATTORNEY KRISTIN MORA CONCERNING SUBSTITUTE
1:54:19PM RESOLUTIONS, PUBLIC HEARINGS ON DECEMBER 20, 2018 AT 10:30
1:54:23PM AND JANUARY 17, 2019 AT 5:30-MILLIMETER RELATING TO TAMPA
1:54:28PM HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
1:54:30PM IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO SET THOSE TWO.
1:54:34PM I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN, A SECOND FROM MR. MIRANDA.
1:54:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:54:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:54:39PM THANK YOU.
1:54:39PM NOW WE GO ON TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.
1:54:42PM MR. MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
1:54:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I HAVE SO MANY OF THEM BUT I HAVE
1:54:45PM BEEN READING THE ST. PETE "TAMPA BAY TIMES," AND YESTERDAY
1:54:49PM AND TODAY THEY HAD TWO ARTICLES ABOUT THE RAYS AND PEOPLE
1:54:51PM ASK US ALL THE TIME WHAT'S HAPPENING?
1:54:53PM NONE OF US NOBODY WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:54:55PM SO DON'T CALL ME.
1:54:56PM CALL THE AGENT OR CALL THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
1:54:59PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S AN ATTORNEY WHO HIS MAIN STUFF
1:55:04PM IS BASEBALL PARKS, AND UP TO NOW THE COUNTY HAS BEEN FOOTING

1:55:09PM THE BILL, BUT NOW THEY SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S SPORTS
1:55:12PM AUTHORITY GETTING INVOLVED THAT WE ARE GOING TO ALSO PUT UP
1:55:16PM SOME CASH.
1:55:16PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.
1:55:18PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE.
1:55:20PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:55:21PM BUT NOBODY IS AGAINST THE RAYS COMING.
1:55:24PM BUT ARE THEY GOING TO LET THE ELECTED OFFICIALS VOTE ON IT
1:55:28PM BY THEMSELVES, WE ARE DOING AN INJUSTICE AND DISSERVICE TO
1:55:31PM OUR COMMUNITY.
1:55:32PM AND WHATEVER WE GIVE UP -- AND YOU WILL BE GIVING UP A
1:55:35PM LOT -- YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IN 2027, THE OTHER ANIMAL
1:55:41PM COMES UP, AND THAT'S FROM THE FOOTBALL GUYS.
1:55:44PM THEY GOT THE BASEBALL GUYS, THE FOOTBALL GUYS, AND WHAT'S
1:55:48PM LEFT OF THE TAXPAYERS?
1:55:49PM NOTHING.
1:55:50PM SO WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE SOME PUBLIC
1:55:54PM HEARINGS THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON OR SOMEBODY HAS TO
1:55:56PM DO SOMETHING AND TELL US, EITHER THE COUNTY OR THE MAYOR'S
1:55:59PM OFFICE OR SOMEBODY, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE DON'T MEET WITH
1:56:01PM ANYBODY BECAUSE WE CAN'T.
1:56:03PM WE DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY WON'T
1:56:06PM TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:56:07PM OR WE HAVEN'T ASKED REALLY.
1:56:09PM AND THE RAYS WANT TO COME AND BUILD A PARK, GO TO IT.

1:56:13PM BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING FOR CRA MONEY, AND IF YOU
1:56:16PM REMEMBER WHAT OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER SONYA LITTLE SAID,
1:56:21PM I THINK THE LAST BUDGET, WE LOST LIKE $27 MILLION OUT OF THE
1:56:27PM GENERAL FUNDS THAT THE CRAs HAD.
1:56:29PM AND THAT'S FINE TO SOMEBODY POINT.
1:56:31PM BUT WHEN YOU KEEP GETTING THE TAXPAYERS HAVING MONEY IN THE
1:56:37PM GENERAL FUND TO PERFORM AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE MONEY COMING
1:56:40PM IN, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THEM AFTERWARDS?
1:56:43PM THAT YOU BUILT THE BALLPARK?
1:56:44PM THAT THE CRA WAS GIVEN TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO SOMETHING
1:56:47PM WITH?
1:56:47PM SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO START LOG AT
1:56:51PM SOMETHING, AND WHAT I AM ASKING IS FOR SOME CONSENSUS OF THE
1:56:57PM SEVEN OF US -- THERE'S ONLY FOUR HERE -- TO FIGURE OUT THE
1:57:00PM NEXT MEETING, MAYBE, AS TO HOW, WHAT APPROACH IF ANY DO WE
1:57:04PM WANT TO BE TAKE?
1:57:05PM BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE, AND WE GO OUT, I'M SURE
1:57:08PM THEY HAVE ASKED YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:57:10PM WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
1:57:11PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APOLOGIZE, MR. MIRANDA.
1:57:14PM ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION FOR US TO --
1:57:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM ASKING THE FOUR OF US TO GET
1:57:19PM TOGETHER NEXT WEEK WITH THE SEVEN, MAKE A SUGGESTION OF WHAT
1:57:22PM WE ARE GOING TO DO IF ANYTHING AT ALL.
1:57:24PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.

1:57:25PM SO THAT'S A MOTION?
1:57:28PM >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A MOTION BUT I
1:57:30PM JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.
1:57:31PM I THINK THAT WHAT THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
1:57:35PM IS ASKING FOR IS WHEN ALL SEVEN OF US ARE HERE THAT WE
1:57:38PM DETERMINE HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
1:57:42PM WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW THAT THAT INFORMATION IS PRESENTED
1:57:45PM TO US IN PUBLIC.
1:57:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CORRECT.
1:57:48PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO THEN, MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT
1:57:52PM THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK'S CRA MEETING?
1:57:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL PUT IT ON FOR THE CRA MEETING.
1:57:59PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SECOND FROM MR. COHEN.
1:58:00PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
1:58:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:58:03PM THANK YOU, SIR.
1:58:04PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
1:58:05PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
1:58:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
1:58:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN REGARDS TO WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
1:58:11PM SAID, I REMEMBER FOUR YEARS AGO BEING ASKED BY THE TAMPA
1:58:14PM TRIBUNE ABOUT THE BASEBALL ISSUE AND MY RESPONSE WAS, I
1:58:17PM THINK THE ISSUE IS DEAD BECAUSE NOTHING WAS REALLY THROUGH
1:58:21PM AS IT IS NOW.
1:58:22PM SO IT'S A HUGE ISSUE.

1:58:24PM I KNOW WE ARE GETTING ASKED, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE
1:58:26PM RAYS AND WHATNOT?
1:58:27PM I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SUGGESTION, IDEA MOVING FORWARD FOR
1:58:31PM NEXT THURSDAY SO WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION WAS
1:58:34PM BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
1:58:35PM ANYWAY, HAVING SAID THAT, MY FIRST MOTION WOULD BE -- AND
1:58:39PM THIS IS INSPIRED BY MR. TIM KEPORTS IN HIS COMMENTS THIS
1:58:45PM MORNING AND A LETTER THAT HE HAD WRITTEN, AND I AM GOING TO
1:58:47PM SEE HOW I DO THIS.
1:58:48PM I WANT TO MAKE A SURE MOTION THAT WE ESTABLISH A CITIZENS
1:58:52PM TRAFFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
1:58:54PM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WHETHER TO
1:58:58PM ASK MAYBE JEAN DUNCAN, OR THAT SHE OVERSEES IT BEING THAT
1:59:02PM SHE'S HEAD OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
1:59:04PM OR THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT THEY CONSIDER THIS.
1:59:07PM YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LIKE WE DID WITH A CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD
1:59:11PM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN THIS SENSE, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS
1:59:15PM WERE ABLE TO APPOINT REPRESENTATIVES, SO DOES THE MAYOR.
1:59:18PM BUT TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMES UP
1:59:21PM ALL THE TIME HERE.
1:59:22PM AND I THINK IF WE GET CITIZENS INPUT, ESPECIALLY HAVING SEEN
1:59:26PM WHAT'S GOING ON IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND WE DID HAVE MS.
1:59:31PM JEAN DUNCAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
1:59:33PM BUT ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS INVOLVED AND PEOPLE IT SEEMS
1:59:37PM THAT WE GET THE BALL ROLLING QUICKER.

1:59:39PM SO IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
1:59:41PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A
1:59:43PM SECOND.
1:59:44PM >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
1:59:47PM >>HARRY COHEN: I WAS GOING TO SAY, PERHAPS WE COULD
1:59:51PM SCHEDULE THIS FOR LIKE A DISCUSSION AT A WORKSHOP OR STAFF
1:59:53PM REPORT, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT I HAVE SORT OF IN
1:59:56PM MIND JUST TO SUGGEST.
1:59:58PM ONE IS THAT WE MAY WANT TO SET UP A MECHANISM, BUT IF IT
2:00:02PM TAKES LONG ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE NEXT COUNCIL OR MAYOR TO MAKE
2:00:06PM THE APPOINTMENTS SO WE DON'T APPOINT PEOPLE FOR TWO MONTHS
2:00:08PM AND THEN FIND OUT THEY ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE TO BE
2:00:12PM REPLACED.
2:00:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THE 31st OF
2:00:20PM JANUARY.
2:00:20PM WHO WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT WE BRING BACK?
2:00:22PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD.
2:00:23PM YOU HAVE GOT TO REMEMBER THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT YOU
2:00:25PM MENTIONED.
2:00:27PM REMEMBER THE CITIZENS REVIEW COMMITTEE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
2:00:31PM THAT THEN WE WERE PART OF.
2:00:34PM SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO,
2:00:37PM WHICH IS IF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HAVE
2:00:41PM SOME KIND OF POWER OVER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT'S
2:00:44PM A DIFFERENT KIND OF BOARD VERSUS A SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL TO

2:00:47PM THEN GO TO THE BOARD.
2:00:48PM SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK CAN BE DISCUSSED AT A
2:00:51PM WORKSHOP.
2:00:52PM SO WHEN YOU SAY TO COME BACK, THE TRANSPORTATION, LEGAL,
2:00:56PM WOULD BE TWO OF THE ONES THAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
2:00:58PM >> TRANSPORTATION.
2:01:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I WOULD CORRECT THAT MOTION TO
2:01:04PM JANUARY 31st DURING OUR WORKSHOPS TO HAVE LEGAL HERE, TO
2:01:08PM HAVE JEAN DUNCAN FROM TRANSPORTATION, AND CONSIDERING WHAT
2:01:11PM YOU SAID, WHAT ABOUT THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD?
2:01:19PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT IS ALSO AN ADVISORY BOARD TO COUNCIL.
2:01:21PM SO AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE COME
2:01:25PM OUT OF THE COMMITTEE IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
2:01:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE'LL SET THAT FOR THE WORKSHOP
2:01:30PM DISCUSSION AND TALK ABOUT IT THEN.
2:01:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME WAYS THAT MRS. MANISCALCO
2:01:36PM BROUGHT UP, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I GET ASKED ABOUT THE
2:01:40PM MOST, IS TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING.
2:01:42PM YOU CAN'T MOVE IN THE CITY.
2:01:44PM YOU CAN'T FIND PARKING.
2:01:45PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. MANISCALCO.
2:01:48PM ARE YOU CLEAR ON THAT, CLERK?
2:01:49PM I THINK THE SECOND WAS BY MR. COHEN?
2:01:52PM MR. MIRANDA WAS FIRST.
2:01:54PM OKAY.

2:01:54PM AND BEFORE WE TAKE THE MOTION, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD?
2:01:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WONDER IF COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE THIS, I
2:02:04PM WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
2:02:08PM I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE THAT IF IT INVOLVES CITY
2:02:11PM COUNCIL.
2:02:11PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SURE.
2:02:17PM JANUARY 31st.
2:02:18PM WE HAVE OUR MOTION.
2:02:19PM WE HAVE OUR SECOND.
2:02:19PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT?
2:02:21PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:02:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
2:02:24PM TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO BRYAN MUELLER TO BE PRESENTED
2:02:28PM WITH EAGLE SCOUT JANUARY 23rd, 2019.
2:02:33PM >> MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
2:02:35PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
2:02:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:02:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:02:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
2:02:40PM MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO GREG AND MICHELLE BAKER
2:02:43PM OF THE REFINERY AND FORMERLY FODDER AND SHINE FOR THEIR
2:02:48PM OUTSTANDING CULINARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
2:02:51PM GREG'S UPCOMING RETIREMENT TO BE PRESENTED ON JANUARY
2:02:54PM 31st.
2:02:54PM >> MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.

2:02:56PM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
2:02:57PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
2:03:00PM OKAY.
2:03:00PM MR. COHEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS?
2:03:02PM >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST HAVE ONE.
2:03:04PM I KNOW IT'S LATE.
2:03:04PM I WANTED TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT RELATED TO THE PASSING OF
2:03:11PM AND THE FUNERAL OF THE PASSING OF OUR 41st PRESIDENT OF
2:03:13PM THE UNITED STATES, GEORGE HW BUSH.
2:03:17PM A LOT OF US WATCHED THE COVERAGE OF THE SERVICES THIS WEEK
2:03:20PM AND COULD NOT HELP BUT BE MOVED BY THE TREMENDOUS
2:03:25PM GRACIOUSNESS AND DIGNITY BY BOTH MR. BUSH LIVED HIS LIFE AND
2:03:31PM WAS REMEMBERED BY HIS FELLOW COUNTRYMEN.
2:03:33PM WE ARE REMINDED AT THESE MOMENTS THAT WE CAN BE BETTER THAN
2:03:37PM OUR CURRENT DIALOGUE, THAT WE CAN BE BETTER THAN OUR CURRENT
2:03:41PM SITUATION IN TALLAHASSEE AND WASHINGTON, THAT WE CAN EXIST
2:03:43PM WITH CIVILITY AND RESPECT FOR OTHERS, AND THAT WE CAN, YOU
2:03:47PM KNOW, AS AMERICANS COME TOGETHER AROUND OUR COMMON VALUES.
2:03:50PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE SENATOR
2:03:53PM DOLE SALUTE THE LATE PRESIDENT, BUT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY
2:03:58PM MOVING.
2:03:59PM AND IT REMINDED US OF THE GENERATION OF AMERICANS THAT GAVE
2:04:02PM SO MUCH TO THEIR COUNTRY.
2:04:03PM SO I WANTED TO MENTION IT HERE TODAY AND JUST --
2:04:12PM [ENCODER DROPPED]

2:04:41PM [ENCODER DROPPED]
2:04:51PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HAVE A SECOND MOTION.
2:04:55PM I WAS LISTENING TO NPR, A SHOW CALLED A1A, TALKING ABOUT A
2:05:00PM DOCUMENTARY THAT CNN IS COMING OUT WITH CALLED DESTROYED,
2:05:03PM AND IT'S ABOUT RAPE KITS AND HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN
2:05:08PM DESTROYED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN
2:05:10PM DESTROYED IN ORDER TO PROSECUTE SOME OF THESE CRIMES.
2:05:12PM I WOULD LIKE, IN THAT THOUGHT, FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN
2:05:15PM DOING.
2:05:16PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE TPD AND LEGAL
2:05:19PM DEPARTMENT TO BRING A REPORT ON THE STORAGE OF RAPE KITS,
2:05:23PM THE PROCESS FOR DESTROYING THESE KITS, IF THERE IS ANY, THE
2:05:26PM LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR KEEPING THE KITS FOR EVIDENCE TO BE
2:05:30PM USED FOR PROSECUTION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT COME
2:05:33PM BACK UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON JANUARY 10th.
2:05:36PM >> SECOND.
2:05:39PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: EXCUSE ME.
2:05:40PM I WOULD LIKE A LIST OF THOSE KITS OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS
2:05:45PM FROM 2008 THROUGH NOW.
2:05:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
2:05:49PM I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:05:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:05:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:05:53PM OKAY.
2:05:53PM I AM GOING TO MOVE THE GAVEL QUICKLY TO COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

2:05:56PM JUST VERY QUICK TO BE PRESENTED, I WOULD LIKE A RESOLUTION
2:06:01PM DRAFTED FOR ON CELEBRATORY GUN FIRE WHICH HAS BEEN AN ISSUE
2:06:07PM IN CERTAIN AREAS, ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY IN THE LARGER
2:06:11PM COMMUNITY TO NOT ENGAGE IN CELEBRATORY GUN FIRE AS A PUBLIC
2:06:15PM POLICY.
2:06:15PM >> SECOND.
2:06:16PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
2:06:19PM SECOND FROM MR. COHEN.
2:06:20PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
2:06:23PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:06:24PM OKAY.
2:06:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:06:35PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:06:35PM THANK YOU.
2:06:36PM >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:06:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I'M SORRY.
2:06:41PM DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
2:06:42PM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE LEAVE?
2:06:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY THE
2:06:48PM CLERK THAT I SHOULD STATE THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE
2:06:50PM RECORD, THE MEETINGS FROM THE T.H.A.N. MEETING WHERE CITY
2:06:54PM COUNCIL ATTENDED I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE RECEIVED AND FILED.
2:06:57PM >> SO MOVED.
2:06:58PM >> SECOND.
2:06:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?

2:07:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:07:06PM OKAY.
2:07:06PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
2:07:08PM (MEETING ADJOURNED)
2:08:54PM
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