TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 24, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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8:36:28AM
9:05:10AM >> OKAY. CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU WOULD DO ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:05:13AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:05:15AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:05:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:16AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:05:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:05:21AM >> REDDICK?
9:05:26AM >> COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, GO AHEAD.
9:05:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:05:30AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:05:31AM IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE SISTER ANNE WHO IS GOING TO DO
9:05:34AM OUR INVOCATION TODAY.
9:05:36AM SISTER ANNE IS ORIGINALLY FROM PHILADELPHIA.
9:05:38AM FRANCISCAN CENTER, A SISTER OF ALLEGHENY, NEW YORK.
9:05:41AM SHE HOLDS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN COUNSELING PSYCHOLOGY FROM
9:05:44AM NOVA SOUTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY AND A DOCTORAL IN PASTORAL
9:05:48AM COUNSELING FROM THE GRADUATE THEOLOGICAL FOUNDATION.
9:05:50AM SHE HAS SERVED CRITICAL STRESS MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS VERY
9:05:54AM HELPFUL UP HERE, ANNE, AND SERVES AS CHAPLAIN TO BOTH THE
9:05:57AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FBI OFFICE HERE IN TAMPA.
9:06:00AM SHE ALSO CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL CRITICAL
9:06:04AM INCIDENT TEAM.
9:06:05AM SISTER ANNE IS CERTIFIED AS A SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR AND
9:06:08AM RECEIVED HER TRAINING FROM MOUNT CARMEL SPIRITUAL CENTER IN
9:06:12AM CANADA AND THE HADEN INSTITUTE IN NORTH CAROLINA.
9:06:14AM SISTER ANNE IS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE FRANCISCAN CENTER, A
9:06:18AM PLACE THAT WELCOMES EVERYONE WHO SEEKS SPIRITUAL GROWTH
9:06:21AM THROUGH A DEEPER RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
9:06:22AM IT IS A GREAT PLACE TO GO FOR ANYTIME, A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL
9:06:25AM PLACES RIGHT THERE ALONG THE RIVER.
9:06:30AM PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:06:37AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:06:38AM THANK YOU, SISTER.
9:06:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:06:39AM LET US PRAY.
9:06:43AM GOOD AND COMPASSIONATE GOD, WE COME TO YOU THIS MORNING
9:06:47AM ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM AND SUPPORT OF THE TAMPA
9:06:49AM CITY COUNCIL AS THEY BEGIN THEIR MEETING.
9:06:51AM GIVE THEM WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT IN THEIR DISCUSSIONS.
9:06:55AM ALLOW THEM TO GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS
9:07:01AM OF THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
9:07:03AM FILL THEM WITH YOUR GRACE AND WISDOM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS
9:07:06AM ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:07:08AM REMIND US THAT ALL THAT WE DO TODAY, ALL THAT WE ACCOMPLISH
9:07:11AM TODAY IS FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR TAMPA COMMUNITY.
9:07:14AM AND WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN GOD'S HOLY NAME, AMEN.
9:07:20AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE BEGIN WITH CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND
9:07:43AM PRESENTATIONS FIRST.
9:07:44AM WE'LL DO OUR APPLICANTS FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
9:07:57AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:07:59AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
9:08:01AM WE HAVE SUSAN LONG LOOKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THE VARIANCE
9:08:05AM REVIEW BOARD.
9:08:20AM >> SUSAN LONG, 921 EAST BROAD STREET, TAMPA.
9:08:23AM I'VE BEEN ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR A LITTLE OVER
9:08:26AM FOUR YEARS.
9:08:27AM MY TERM EXPIRED AT THE END OF DECEMBER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO
9:08:30AM BE REAPPOINTED TO DO IT AGAIN.
9:08:32AM I WAS CHAIR FOR ONE YEAR.
9:08:34AM I READILY ADMIT I KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT TODAY THAN I DID
9:08:38AM WHEN I WAS FIRST PUT ON IT.
9:08:41AM IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS.
9:08:44AM NOW THAT I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, I WOULD LIKE TO BE
9:08:46AM REAPPOINTED.
9:08:47AM THANK YOU.
9:08:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO OTHER APPLICANTS, I ASSUME.
9:08:51AM >>HARRY COHEN: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE APPOINTMENT.
9:08:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
9:08:57AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:08:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:59AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:08:59AM OKAY.
9:09:03AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
9:09:06AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
9:09:08AM WE HAVE APPLICANTS FOR THE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
9:09:12AM WE HAVE SIX APPLICANTS.
9:09:14AM ONE APPLICANT, MR. SEAN SHAW SENT US AN E-MAIL THAT HE
9:09:20AM COULDN'T MAKE IT.
9:09:21AM HE HAS A CONFLICT THIS MORNING.
9:09:24AM IF YOU WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH RICHARD
9:09:28AM FERNANDEZ -- OR RICARDO FERNANDEZ.
9:09:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:09:40AM WE HAVE THREE MINUTES ON THIS, TOO?
9:09:43AM OKAY.
9:09:43AM WELL, RICK FERNANDEZ, 2906 NORTH ELMORE AVENUE, TAMPA,
9:09:49AM 33602.
9:09:51AM YOU ALL KNOW I'M PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC
9:09:54AM ASSOCIATION, AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER FEW HOURS.
9:09:57AM OUR ELECTION IS TONIGHT, SO I WILL BE ROTATING OFF.
9:10:00AM YOU WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME IN THAT CONTEXT ANY LONGER.
9:10:04AM I'M HERE TODAY SEEKING APPOINTMENT TO THE INDEPENDENT
9:10:08AM OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
9:10:09AM BECAUSE OF MY ROLE WITH THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, I'VE HAD
9:10:13AM DOZENS OF APPEARANCES BEFORE YOU OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
9:10:17AM FOR BETTER OR WORSE, I FEEL YOU ALREADY KNOW ME AND WHAT
9:10:21AM ANIMATES ME AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
9:10:24AM SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF THE APPLICATION.
9:10:28AM I'LL SIMPLY REFER YOU TO PAGE FOUR, I BELIEVE IT IS, OF THE
9:10:31AM APP WHERE WE WERE ALL GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR
9:10:35AM CONNECTION TO TRANSPORTATION, WHY WE WANT THE APPOINTMENT,
9:10:39AM AND WHY WE FEEL THAT OUR QUALIFICATIONS APPLY FOR THIS
9:10:44AM APPOINTMENT.
9:10:44AM IT SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE THAT I WAS A SUPPORTER OF THE
9:10:49AM TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM, GIVEN MY BACKGROUND AND
9:10:54AM HISTORY.
9:10:55AM NOW I WANT TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO ENSURE THE WILL OF THE
9:10:58AM PEOPLE IS BROUGHT FORWARD EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY.
9:11:00AM AND, QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THE IOC IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE
9:11:04AM BEST PLATFORM TO DO THAT.
9:11:05AM AT LEAST FOR SOMEONE SUCH AS MYSELF THAT CONSIDERS HIMSELF A
9:11:09AM CIVIC ACTIVIST.
9:11:11AM QUITE HONESTLY, IT WAS SIMPLY A MATTER OF FEELING THAT I
9:11:13AM NEEDED TO STEP UP BECAUSE I HAD THE SKILL SET THAT I THINK
9:11:16AM WILL HELP.
9:11:17AM IN DOING THE PETITION COLLECTIONS, I WASN'T ONE OF THE MOST
9:11:29AM ACTIVE BUT I WAS OUT THERE ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC,
9:11:33AM SECURING PETITION SIGNATURES AND TRYING TO PROMOTE THE
9:11:35AM CONCEPT OF THE REFERENDUM.
9:11:37AM AND I FOUND IN DOING SO THAT MANY OF OUR CITIZENS, OUR
9:11:41AM VOTERS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS FELT THAT THE INDEPENDENT
9:11:44AM OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WAS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS
9:11:48AM OF THIS REFERENDUM AT-LARGE.
9:11:50AM THEY REALLY LIKED THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE
9:11:53AM ANOTHER SET OF EYES AND EARS OVERLOOKING THE DISTRIBUTION OF
9:11:58AM THESE FUNDS.
9:11:59AM WHO KNEW THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH TRUST WHEN IT COMES
9:12:02AM TO MONEY AND ELECTED OFFICIALS?
9:12:05AM SO HAVING A CITIZEN REVIEW COMMITTEE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER
9:12:09AM TERM, WAS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY CLOSED THE DEAL WITH A LOT
9:12:12AM OF CONSTITUENTS AND HAVING THEM SIGN THE PETITION.
9:12:16AM IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WE DELIVER AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL,
9:12:20AM BOTH ON THE AUDIT AND OVERSIGHT COMPONENT OF THIS COMMITTEE
9:12:24AM AND ALSO THE OTHER JOB OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS
9:12:28AM TO SUPPORT A CULTURE OF CREDIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY WHICH
9:12:34AM SHOULD DEFINE THE ENTIRE ENDEAVOR.
9:12:37AM I THINK MY BACKGROUND AND HISTORY WILL HELP TO DO THAT.
9:12:38AM I HOPE TO BE PART OF THAT TEAM, AND I HOPE YOU WILL TRUST ME
9:12:42AM ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THAT APPOINTMENT.
9:12:43AM I WILL BE HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:12:47AM AND MY TIME IS UP.
9:12:52AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:12:52AM THE NEXT APPLICANT IS HUGH S. CAMPBELL.
9:12:56AM IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE'S HERE.
9:13:04AM DUSTIN E. LEMPKE.
9:13:12AM >> DUSTIN LEMKE, 304 EAST ROSS, 33602.
9:13:16AM I WORK AT HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
9:13:19AM I WAS A PROFESSOR THERE FOR 12 YEARS.
9:13:21AM I JUST BECAME A DEAN A YEAR AGO.
9:13:23AM I'M ALSO THE TREASURER FOR THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY OF
9:13:27AM TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:13:28AM SO THE COUNTYWIDE ORGANIZATION.
9:13:31AM I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JOURNEY WITH
9:13:34AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:13:34AM I GREW UP IN RURAL ARKANSAS WHERE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO
9:13:37AM HAVE A CAR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T LIVE IN TOWN.
9:13:39AM SO YOU WERE STUCK AT HOME ALL DAY IN THE SUMMER AND AT NIGHT
9:13:42AM IF YOU COULDN'T GET TO TOWN.
9:13:44AM AND THERE WAS THIS ONE LADY IN OUR LIFE, WE CALLED HER
9:13:47AM GRANDMA BOBBY.
9:13:49AM SHE WASN'T OUR GRANDMA.
9:13:52AM LIKE OUR GRANDMA.
9:13:53AM SHE WALKED WHEREVER SHE WENT.
9:13:55AM SO THAT SUMMER WE WALKED EVERYWHERE, TOO.
9:13:57AM PEOPLE STOPPED AND ASKED FOR RIDES.
9:14:01AM THEY FELT SORRY FOR US.
9:14:02AM BUT WE LIKED IT.
9:14:03AM WE WERE HAVING FUN.
9:14:04AM THEN I TURNED 16 AND GOT MY DREAM COURT IN 1988, FORD ESCORT
9:14:09AM LIKE EVERY GOOD 16-YEAR-OLD DOES.
9:14:12AM THEN I BECAME MARRIED AND BECAME A TWO-CAR FAMILY.
9:14:14AM THEN DIVORCED AND BACK TO A ONE-CAR FAMILY.
9:14:17AM MOVED TO TAMPA AND LIVED IN NEW TAMPA.
9:14:20AM AND SUDDENLY A CAR WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, LIKE YOU COULDN'T
9:14:23AM GET AROUND WITHOUT A CAR IF YOU LIVED IN NEW TAMPA.
9:14:26AM WHEN I HAD CAR TROUBLES, THIS IS BEFORE UBER AND LYFT IT WAS
9:14:30AM VERY HARD TO GET ACROSS TOWN.
9:14:32AM I FINALLY MOVED TO TAMPA HEIGHTS, BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSER TO
9:14:35AM THINGS.
9:14:35AM I THOUGHT IF MY CAR BREAKS DOWN, I CAN AT LEAST WALK WHERE I
9:14:40AM NEED TO GO.
9:14:41AM THEN I DID SOMETHING CRAZY.
9:14:43AM JUNE OF 2010, STILL HAD MY FIRST BUS TICKET.
9:14:45AM I SOLD MY CAR THAT DAY AND LIVED WITHOUT A CAR IN TAMPA FOR
9:14:49AM EIGHT YEARS AND TOOK THE BUS, RODE MY BOOK UNTIL IT WAS
9:14:56AM STOLEN TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.
9:14:57AM WALKED PLACES, DID THAT SORT OF THING.
9:15:00AM I KNOW WHAT'S -- I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO MISS THE BUS.
9:15:06AM AND WALK IN THE RAIN.
9:15:08AM I KNOW THAT IT'S COLD OUTSIDE AND THE BUS AND NICE AND WARM.
9:15:12AM MY FRIENDS OFTEN ASKED WHAT I LEARNED FROM IT.
9:15:14AM THE ONE BIG THING I LEARNED IS NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SELL
9:15:17AM THEIR CAR.
9:15:17AM A YEAR AGO WHEN I BECAME A DEAN I NEEDED A CAR AGAIN.
9:15:20AM I DID IT FOR 7.5 YEARS BUT I NEEDED TO GET BACK INTO IN A
9:15:24AM CAR.
9:15:25AM I STILL TRY TO TAKE THE BUS TWICE A WEEK.
9:15:27AM WHAT I LEARNED IS WE NEED A LOT OF DIVERSE OPTIONS FOR A
9:15:30AM DIVERSE CITY.
9:15:31AM ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE NEED ALL KINDS OF TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS
9:15:34AM FOR THAT.
9:15:34AM I LOVE THAT THE TAX CHARTER FILLS POTHOLES, FIXES ROADS,
9:15:40AM FIXES SIDEWALKS AND PROVIDES ALL THESE ALTERNATIVE
9:15:43AM TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.
9:15:45AM TWO THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER.
9:15:47AM ONE IS I KNOW THAT TO BE ON THE IOC, I NEED TO LOOK LINE BY
9:15:52AM LINE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONIES THE WAY
9:15:56AM THAT THE CHARTER SAYS WE SHOULD BE SPENDING THE MONIES.
9:15:58AM IT'S AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC TRUST THAT I WOULD UPHOLD AND I
9:16:01AM WOULD DO.
9:16:02AM IN MY DIVISION AT THE COLLEGE, I MANAGE 200 PEOPLE, 12,000
9:16:06AM STUDENTS ARE IN MY CLASSES.
9:16:08AM FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, $1.4 MILLION BUDGET THAT I'M
9:16:10AM OVERLOOKING RIGHT NOW.
9:16:11AM AND WE NEED A REGULAR PERSON WHO IS TAKING THE BUS AND DONE
9:16:15AM THOSE THINGS.
9:16:15AM THANK YOU.
9:16:20AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:16:21AM THE NEXT APPLICANT IS ROBERT PETE EDWARDS.
9:16:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:16:32AM ROBERT PETE EDWARDS, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
9:16:36AM 510 EAST HARRISON STREET, DOWNTOWN, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:16:40AM THIS IS MY FOURTH APPEARANCE FOR THE COUNCIL OVER THE LAST
9:16:43AM ALMOST 48 YEARS WHERE I APPLIED FOR A POSITION WHERE THE
9:16:46AM COUNCIL HAD TO APPROVE.
9:16:49AM I LOST TWICE TO CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS WITH BETTY WIGGINS
9:16:52AM AND ALSO FRAN DAVID.
9:16:55AM THE LAST TIME I APPEARED BEFORE THE COUNCIL I APPLIED FOR A
9:17:00AM POSITION ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
9:17:01AM I LOST OUT TO JEANETTE -- CAN'T REMEMBER THE LADY'S LAST
9:17:05AM NAME.
9:17:06AM MY BACKGROUND IS EXTENSIVE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE, COMMUNITY
9:17:09AM ADVOCACY.
9:17:11AM I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN
9:17:13AM TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO WITHIN THE
9:17:17AM CITY, EVER SINCE THE NUMBER THREE BUS WAS THE DAVIS ISLAND
9:17:21AM BUS.
9:17:21AM I WAS INVOLVED AS A DOWNTOWN COUNCIL OF CHURCHES MEMBER.
9:17:26AM WHEN FATHER KINELLI WAS AT SACRED HEART, WHEN THEY PUT IN
9:17:31AM THE HARTLINE SYSTEM, AT THE TIME THE SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED TO
9:17:34AM COST 9 MILLION.
9:17:35AM IT WIND UP COSTING OVER 17 MILLION.
9:17:38AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY.
9:17:40AM MY WORK, WHEN I DID THE APPLICATION, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN
9:17:44AM SO MUCH STUFF THAT THERE WASN'T ROOM TO PUT IT ON THERE.
9:17:49AM MY WORK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
9:17:52AM THOSE PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME -- AND SOME OF YOU COUNCILMEN KNOW
9:17:54AM ME -- I'M A TRUST BUT VERIFY GUY.
9:17:58AM WHY DO I WANT TO SERVE? BECAUSE I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE
9:18:04AM TRANSPORTATION ORDINANCE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ISSUES I HAD WITH
9:18:06AM HART AND THE WAY THEY SCHEDULED TRANSPORTATION FOR THE
9:18:09AM WORKING PEOPLE AND THE DISABLED PEOPLE.
9:18:11AM I CAN BRING TO THE BOARD A TRUE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT, KEEP
9:18:16AM IT REAL WITH EVERYBODY, AND WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
9:18:21AM CORRECT, THEN I CAN LET THE TAXPAYERS KNOW THAT.
9:18:23AM WHEN IT'S NOT, THEN I CALL IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE OTHER
9:18:26AM PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE.
9:18:27AM THIS IS A DIFFICULT THING FOR ME TO COME.
9:18:32AM I WAS ENCOURAGED NOT TO APPLY BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY PEOPLE LIKE
9:18:35AM ME THAT ARE CONSERVATIVE AND JUST EVERYDAY PEOPLE DON'T GET
9:18:38AM THE SHOT.
9:18:38AM I KNOW ALL OF YOU.
9:18:40AM I DON'T APPLY FOR SOMETHING I DON'T THINK I'M QUALIFIED FOR.
9:18:45AM I'M CLEARLY QUALIFIED FOR THIS POSITION.
9:18:51AM I CAN BRING MY WORK FROM THE CHILDREN'S BOARD, MY WORK ON
9:18:51AM THE HILLSBOROUGH REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, TAMPA BAY
9:18:52AM REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, ALL OF IT, OVER 45 YEARS, ALMOST
9:18:56AM 50 YEARS SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
9:18:58AM I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER MY APPOINTMENT AS AN HONEST EFFORT
9:19:01AM TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE IOC.
9:19:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:19:14AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:19:15AM THE LAST APPLICANT IS NESTOR BERNARDO ORTIZ.
9:19:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:19:30AM I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME MY MIDDLE NAME HAS BEEN
9:19:34AM CALLED IN A PUBLIC FORUM.
9:19:36AM GOOD MORNING.
9:19:37AM MY NAME IS NESTOR ORTIZ.
9:19:40AM I LIVE AT 906 EAST 31st AVENUE IN EAST TAMPA.
9:19:43AM SO THE REASON I'M APPLYING FOR THE IOC, I'M APPLYING FOR THE
9:19:52AM IOC BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE INCREASES THAT ARE HAPPENING
9:19:55AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, TRUTHFULLY.
9:20:00AM I'M NOTICING ALL THE INCREASES IN HOUSING.
9:20:02AM THE INCREASES IN LIFESTYLE CHOICES LIKE ARMATURE WORK AND
9:20:06AM SPARKMAN WHARF.
9:20:09AM WHAT I'M NOTICING IS THAT THINGS ARE BOOMING, WHICH IS
9:20:12AM FANTASTIC, BUT OFTENTIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THINGS ARE BOOMING
9:20:16AM FOR A CERTAIN POPULATION OF PEOPLE.
9:20:18AM MY JOB, MY ROLE IN THIS REQUEST IS REALLY TO WATCH OUT FOR
9:20:25AM THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T BEING POSITIVELY IMPACTED BY ALL OF
9:20:30AM DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
9:20:31AM THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN LIFESTYLE AND HOME AND WORK IS SO
9:20:36AM CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND TRANSPORTATION CUTS THROUGH ALL OF
9:20:40AM THAT.
9:20:41AM THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPORTATION NOT JUST BEING FOR THOSE
9:20:43AM WITH MEANS, BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR THOSE WITHOUT, FOR
9:20:47AM THOSE WHO NEED ACCESS INTO COMMUNITIES LIKE SPARKMAN'S WHARF
9:20:51AM SO THEY CAN ALSO ENJOY LIFESTYLE CHOICES IN THE CITY OF
9:20:56AM TAMPA.
9:20:57AM THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPORTATION TO A PLACE OF WORK, IF THEY
9:21:00AM ARE A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT BE PUSHED OUT
9:21:04AM BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS LOST RIGHT IN THE HEART OF
9:21:06AM THE CITY AND THEY ARE PUSHED OUT TO THE FRINGES OF THE
9:21:09AM COUNTY OR THE CITY.
9:21:10AM MY JOB, MY ROLE, MY PUSH, IF YOU WILL, IS REALLY JUST TO
9:21:18AM MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, THAT
9:21:21AM THIS TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM BENEFITS ALL OF US AND NOT
9:21:26AM JUST A SELECT FEW WHO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT WITHIN THESE
9:21:30AM LIMITS.
9:21:31AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT
9:21:35AM EVERYBODY'S ISSUES AND CONCERNS ARE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND
9:21:38AM THAT EVERYBODY IS HONORED WITH ACCESS THROUGH
9:21:42AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:21:43AM THANK YOU.
9:21:51AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:21:52AM COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT FOR THE INDEPENDENT
9:21:56AM OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A BALLOT.
9:21:59AM COUNCIL, WE HAVE A SITUATION.
9:22:25AM THIS YOUNG LADY SAID -- AND SHE PROVIDED AN APPLICATION.
9:22:33AM SO IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM HER.
9:22:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: PROCEDURALLY, ARE WE SAYING THE APPLICATION
9:22:42AM ISN'T FOUND?
9:22:43AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THIS IS THE FIRST I HEARD OF IT.
9:22:45AM >> HAD AN E-MAIL SAYING IT WAS RECEIVED.
9:22:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: COME TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK
9:22:49AM SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:22:52AM >> ALANA FRAZIER.
9:22:53AM I WORK FOR THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
9:22:56AM I APPLIED FOR THE POSITION.
9:22:59AM I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL SAYING THAT MY APPLICATION WAS
9:23:03AM RECEIVED.
9:23:04AM IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
9:23:06AM I THINK THEY ARE FIGURING OUT RIGHT NOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH
9:23:10AM IT.
9:23:11AM SINCE I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO WHAT
9:23:14AM I WANTED TO SAY.
9:23:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR
9:23:18AM NOT YOU QUALIFY TO BE IN THERE BECAUSE THERE IS A CUTOFF IN
9:23:21AM TERMS OF THAT.
9:23:22AM WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR OUR CLERK TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
9:23:25AM WE APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT, THOUGH.
9:23:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED.
9:23:31AM I'VE GOT TO FIND OUT FROM INFORMATION, WAS IT RECEIVED TO
9:23:37AM THE CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE OR AFTER THE CUTOFF?
9:23:40AM >> IT WAS RECEIVED BEFORE.
9:23:42AM I HAVE AN E-MAIL ON MY PHONE AND EVERYTHING SAYING IT'S BEEN
9:23:46AM RECEIVED.
9:23:46AM EVERYTHING WAS BY THE BOOK AS FAR AS I KNEW UNTIL RIGHT THIS
9:23:52AM SECOND.
9:23:52AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH
9:23:56AM YOUR AGENDA, I'LL CHECK THIS OUT.
9:23:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:24:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION.
9:24:28AM WE HAVE A REQUEST THIS BE DONE ON THE 21st INSTEAD OF
9:24:33AM TODAY.
9:24:35AM I'LL GO TO ITEM 4.
9:24:37AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THAT TO THE
9:24:39AM 21st?
9:24:40AM >> SECOND.
9:24:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MOTION TO MOVE TO FEBRUARY 21st UNDER
9:24:46AM CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:24:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT SAY AYE.
9:24:56AM OPPOSED.
9:24:56AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:24:57AM >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, TWO THINGS ON THAT.
9:24:57AM NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO MOVE THIS, IF I MAY, TO MARCH 21st
9:24:59AM DUE TO A CALENDARING ISSUE.
9:25:01AM DUE TO SOME SEMANTICS, I WANTED TO CHANGE THIS FROM 40 YEARS
9:25:05AM OF SERVICE TO THE CITY INSTEAD TO 40 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE
9:25:09AM BAR ASSOCIATION, IF I MAY.
9:25:10AM A DOUBLE MOTION, I GUESS.
9:25:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:25:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. VIERA, SECONDED BY
9:25:17AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:25:19AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:25:20AM ITEM NUMBER 5.
9:25:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED.
9:25:39AM HONORABLE CHAIRMAN AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY
9:25:42AM COUNCIL, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH WILLIAM J. TERRY.
9:25:48AM WE ALL KNOW MR. TERRY.
9:25:50AM WE'VE SEEN HIM IN THE BUILDING MANY, MANY TIMES.
9:25:51AM WHAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IS HIS DEDICATION TO SERVICE.
9:25:55AM HE'S IN THE BACKGROUND DOING THE WORK THAT WE WORK ON ON A
9:25:58AM DAILY BASIS TO MAKE THE CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
9:26:00AM IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR 41 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE
9:26:03AM CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS, YOU STARTED IN THE CITY OF
9:26:06AM TAMPA LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN 1978.
9:26:08AM THAT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY TO YOU AND I.
9:26:13AM YOUR TENURE INCLUDED SIX MAYORS, TEN CITY COUNCILS, AND
9:26:19AM MAYBE A DOZEN CITY ATTORNEYS.
9:26:20AM AND YOU LIVED THROUGH ALL THAT.
9:26:23AM YOUR LITIGATION SKILLS WERE ALWAYS IN HEAVY DEMAND, AND YOU
9:26:27AM QUICKLY BECAME A VALUED ASSET TO THE CITY AS SENIOR
9:26:30AM LITIGATOR.
9:26:31AM YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS REPRESENTING THE CITY AND YOUR DEPTH OF
9:26:37AM KNOWLEDGE IS EVIDENT IN EVERY CASE YOU EVER LITIGATED.
9:26:42AM YOUR BRIGHT SMILE, YOUR QUICK WIT AND AMONG ALL YOUR OTHER
9:26:47AM ASSETS, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT YOU ARE NOT ONLY WELL
9:26:51AM RESPECTED IN THE CITY, BUT IN THE HALLS OF JUSTICE.
9:26:53AM YOUR EFFECTIVE MEMBER OF THE LITIGATING TEAM IN THE CITY HAS
9:27:00AM MADE US A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
9:27:03AM YOUR PEERS HAVE RECOGNIZED YOU AS A SUPERLAWYER.
9:27:08AM YOUR RECOGNITION FOR PROFESSIONALISM IS ABOVE ALL.
9:27:12AM AND FOR THOSE REASONS MENTIONED, AND MANY MORE, THAT WE
9:27:16AM CAN'T PUT ON THIS SHEET BECAUSE IT'S ONLY AN 8 BY 11, WE
9:27:20AM HONOR YOU WITH THIS CITY COMMENDATION BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
9:27:28AM AND YOUR FAMILY IS HERE.
9:27:30AM NICE TO SEE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS STILL LOVED ABOUT HIS
9:27:34AM FAMILY AFTER BEING AN ATTORNEY, DISCUSSING THE PROS AND CONS
9:27:42AM OF LIFE.
9:27:42AM THEY ARE HERE TO BACK YOU UP AND SAY ALONG WITH THE TAMPA
9:27:46AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:27:50AM I STILL KNOW YOU'LL GIVE ADVICE FROM TIME TO TIME WITHOUT
9:27:53AM BEING ON THE CLOCK, AND THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
9:27:57AM THANK YOU, MR. TERRY, FOR YOUR 41 YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:28:00AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:09AM >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS INDEED.
9:28:23AM AN EVENT THAT DOESN'T OCCUR EVERY DAY.
9:28:28AM I'M VERY HONORED WITH THIS.
9:28:31AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:28:33AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE MEMBER MIRANDA -- I MEAN -- ANYWAY, THE
9:28:53AM STATEMENTS AND WORDS THAT HE SAID WERE WONDERFUL AND I'M
9:28:57AM VERY TOUCHED BY IT ALL.
9:28:59AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN.
9:29:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY
9:29:14AM ANYTHING?
9:29:14AM I WANTED TO COMMEND YOU.
9:29:19AM I'M AN ATTORNEY AS WELL.
9:29:20AM I KNOW THAT 40 YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE IS A LOT.
9:29:24AM I'M SURE YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND BEING A TRIAL ATTORNEY
9:29:27AM IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
9:29:28AM THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF HEAT ON YOU.
9:29:32AM THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF PRESSURE, AND SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY
9:29:35AM DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO MITIGATE THAT BECAUSE THOSE
9:29:37AM DEADLINES AND THOSE JUDGES AND THOSE JURIES WAIT FOR NOBODY.
9:29:41AM WE COMMEND YOU FOR 40 YEARS.
9:29:43AM THAT'S A VERY LONG TIME OF SERVICE TO THE CITY IN LITIGATION
9:29:46AM AND YOUR FAMILY THAT WAS HERE BEFORE AND EVERYBODY, WE JUST
9:29:49AM COMMEND YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
9:29:52AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:29:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. TERRY, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THERE ARE
9:29:59AM TWO THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU CAME TO THE DAIS.
9:30:02AM FIRST OF ALL, THE ONLY LITIGATOR ON THE DAIS STOOD UP FIRST
9:30:05AM IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU A STANDING OVATION.
9:30:07AM I THINK HE'S EXPECTING THAT WHEN HIS RETIREMENT COMES.
9:30:09AM THE SECOND THING, OF COURSE, IS THAT WE LEFT A LITIGATOR
9:30:14AM SPEECHLESS, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING YOUR WIFE APPRECIATES
9:30:17AM VERY MUCH.
9:30:18AM AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR 40 YEARS OF SERVICE -- 41 YEARS OF
9:30:21AM SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:30:22AM IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB WHEN YOU HAVE TO REPRESENT THE CITY ON
9:30:25AM SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
9:30:26AM AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US IN YOUR
9:30:29AM LONG CAREER.
9:30:30AM THANKS SO MUCH.
9:30:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAPTAIN SUAREZ.
9:30:39AM IN FACT, THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS ACCOMPLISHED SO MANY THINGS IN
9:30:47AM HIS 30 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT
9:30:50AM I'M GOING TO NEED SPECIAL GLASSES BECAUSE THEY WROTE IT IN
9:30:53AM REAL FINE PRINT.
9:30:55AM AND NOT IN REGULAR PRINT.
9:30:56AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE GOT THIS TYPEWRITER AT.
9:30:59AM CAPTAIN SUAREZ, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO REPRESENT THE TAMPA CITY
9:31:03AM COUNCIL IN THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU, SIR, AND ALONG WITH
9:31:06AM YOUR LOVELY WIFE AND CHIEF LO CICERO.
9:31:12AM YOU CAN GET A LITTLE CLOSER NOW; YOU CAN'T TELL HIM WHAT TO
9:31:13AM DO ANYMORE.
9:31:14AM IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR 30 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE
9:31:18AM CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS, CAPTAIN SUAREZ, YOU FIRST
9:31:21AM ENTERED SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE TAMPA FIRE
9:31:23AM DEPARTMENT IN 1989.
9:31:26AM I WAS SIX YEARS OLD THEN.
9:31:29AM [NO ENCODER]
9:31:30AM [NO ENCODER]
9:32:12AM [NO ENCODER]
9:32:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- YOU SKIPPED ONE STEP.
9:32:17AM IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH, YOU BECAME A LIVE FIRE
9:32:21AM INSTRUCTOR AND ASSISTED THE FIRE TRAINING AT THE TAMPA FIRE
9:32:26AM RESCUE TRAINING FACILITIES AT THE TAMPA INTERNATIONAL
9:32:29AM AIRPORT TRAINING FACILITIES AND YOU EVEN SERVED AS THE TEAM
9:32:32AM MEDIC FOR THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING.
9:32:34AM AMONG YOUR MORE OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS TOWARD THE END OF
9:32:39AM YOUR CAREER AND YOUR REPRESENTATION OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTER
9:32:42AM LOCAL 754, AND THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO.
9:32:43AM YOU SERVED AS AN EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER, VICE PRESIDENT, AND
9:32:48AM ON JANUARY 1, 2016, YOU BECAME THE PRESIDENT AND SERVED
9:32:52AM UNTIL YOUR RETIREMENT JANUARY 17 OF 2019.
9:32:55AM YOU HAVE DONE THINGS IN 30 YEARS THAT MOST OF US CAN'T DO IN
9:33:03AM 60.
9:33:03AM YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 35 YEARS TO JANIE, WONDERFUL, YOUNG
9:33:08AM LADY, AND THAT ITSELF TELLS ME THAT SHE'S STILL THE BOSS.
9:33:13AM I KNOW YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD WITH HER, AND THOSE ARE YES,
9:33:18AM MA'AM.
9:33:19AM YOU MIGHT BE A CAPTAIN, BUT THE GENERAL IS NEXT TO YOU.
9:33:23AM DON'T EVER FORGET THAT IN YOUR RETIREMENT BECAUSE YOU WILL
9:33:26AM BE BACK IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
9:33:27AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 30 YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:33:32AM CHIEF LO CICERO IS HERE ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND
9:33:36AM INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE.
9:33:37AM 30 YEARS OF BEING A FIREFIGHTER IS NOT EASY.
9:33:40AM AND BEING REPRESENTING 754, THAT'S EVEN MORE DIFFICULT,
9:33:44AM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH TWO SIDES.
9:33:48AM WELCOME TO REALITY.
9:33:51AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:56AM >> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HONORING THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO
9:34:06AM SERVED FOR SO LONG.
9:34:07AM YOU'VE HAD AN ILLUSTRIOUS CAREER.
9:34:11AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND COLLABORATION AND HAVE
9:34:13AM MUCH FUN AND HEALTH IN YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:34:15AM THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY TO YOU.
9:34:19AM >> I'M NOT GOOD WITH WORDS.
9:34:20AM CHAIRMAN REDDICK, COUNCIL, AGAIN I'M AT A LOSS OF WORDS.
9:34:27AM IT'S BEEN SURREAL THIS LAST WEEK IN RETIRING -- NOT ONLY
9:34:33AM FROM THIS CAREER AT TIME FIRE RESCUE FOR 30 YEARS BUT ALSO
9:34:36AM AS UNION PRESIDENT.
9:34:37AM I RETIRED FROM THAT AS WELL.
9:34:41AM IT HAS BEEN GREAT, AGAIN, TO SERVE THE CITIZENS FROM
9:34:45AM STARTING OUT AS THAT -- JUST A FIREFIGHTER, GOT MY EMT AND
9:34:52AM WORKING UP.
9:34:52AM I ENJOY, LOVED WHAT I DID HELPING THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY
9:34:57AM AT THEIR TIME OF NEED WHEN THEY NEEDED IT MOST.
9:35:00AM IT WAS AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE.
9:35:01AM LATER ON IN MY CAREER AGAIN, AS I STARTED GETTING INVOLVED
9:35:05AM WITH THE UNION EXECUTIVE BOARD AND VICE PRESIDENT IS WHEN
9:35:07AM MOST OF THE CITY COUNCIL STARTED SEEING ME MORE.
9:35:10AM AND THEN AS PRESIDENT, YOU SAW ME PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER
9:35:13AM WEEK, IF NOT EVERY WEEK.
9:35:14AM IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.
9:35:17AM IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH FIRE ADMINISTRATION MOST
9:35:21AM OF THE TIME.
9:35:22AM WE'VE HAD OUR DIFFERENCES OCCASIONALLY BUT FOR THE MOST
9:35:25AM PART, IT'S WORKED VERY WELL.
9:35:27AM AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THIS COMMENDATION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
9:35:31AM RETIREMENT BUT PROBABLY WILL STILL FIND SOMETHING TO DO
9:35:34AM BECAUSE I CAN'T JUST RETIRE.
9:35:35AM THANK YOU.
9:35:36AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:35:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTICE WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENCES, BUT
9:35:45AM THERE'S ONE WORD THAT THEY ALWAYS COMPROMISE FOR THE GOOD OF
9:35:49AM THE CITIZENS.
9:35:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST, LET ME SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
9:35:56AM IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO KNOW YOU SINCE I'VE SERVED ON
9:36:00AM COUNCIL.
9:36:00AM NOT ONLY ARE YOU A GREAT MAN AND APPRECIATE YOU, BUT YOU
9:36:02AM HAVE A GREAT SON-IN-LAW.
9:36:04AM YOU LET HIM KNOW I SAID THAT.
9:36:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:36:10AM STEVE, OF COURSE, IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE FOR ME TO SAY WORDS
9:36:13AM OF CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
9:36:15AM OBVIOUSLY, OUR RELATIONSHIP IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN
9:36:18AM OTHER PEOPLE ON THE DAIS.
9:36:20AM YOUR FATHER, OF COURSE, IS MY UNCLE.
9:36:21AM MY FATHER AND YOUR FATHER GREW UP IN A HOME OF NINE BOYS AND
9:36:26AM ALL OF THEM ACCOMPLISHED A LOT.
9:36:29AM WHEN YOU GROW UP IN THE KIND OF POVERTY THEY GREW UP AND BE
9:36:33AM ABLE TO TURN OUT THE WAY THEY DID IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
9:36:36AM THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS NOT YOUR CAREER IN TAMPA FIRE
9:36:39AM RESCUE AND IT'S NOT YOUR WORK ON THE UNION, IT IS YOU BEING
9:36:43AM A FATHER OF ALL THOSE GIRLS, BEING A GRANDFATHER NOW AND
9:36:48AM ACTUALLY THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE
9:36:50AM TO ACCOMPLISH.
9:36:51AM AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO ACCOMPLISH.
9:36:52AM I KNOW YOU GOT YOUR RV READY AND REVVED UP AND READY TO GO.
9:36:57AM I KNOW JANIE CAN'T WAIT TO LEAVE AND DO ADVENTUROUS STUFF AS
9:37:00AM OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR YOU TO FINISH A SHIFT OR DO OTHER
9:37:03AM THINGS.
9:37:04AM I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL APPRECIATE, WHICH
9:37:06AM IS NOT ONLY YOU'RE A GOOD WORKER, A GOOD FRIEND, BUT YOU'VE
9:37:11AM BEEN A GREAT FAMILY MAN AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE
9:37:14AM ALL SHOULD MAKE SURE WE TRY AND STRIVE FOR IN OUR LIVES.
9:37:17AM I KNOW THAT WE JUST A SAW EACH OTHER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
9:37:22AM WE BURIED ONE OF OUR OTHER UNCLES.
9:37:25AM YOUR DAD IS THE LAST SUAREZ.
9:37:27AM WE THINK ABOUT THAT AND SAID HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
9:37:30AM I KNOW YOUR DAD IS HOPEFULLY LOOKING ON NOW AND SEEING US.
9:37:35AM I KNOW HOW INCREDIBLY PROUD HE IS OF YOU AS WE ALL ARE.
9:37:41AM THANK YOU, STEVE.
9:37:45AM >> I HAVE GREAT, GREAT RESPECT FOR YOU IN SO MANY ROLES, TO
9:37:48AM ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS COUNCILMAN SUAREZ SAID, YOUR COUSIN.
9:37:51AM I KNOW YOU ARE A VERY DEDICATED FATHER, HUSBAND.
9:37:54AM YOU ARE JUST A GOOD PERSON.
9:37:55AM I HAVE SEEN YOU AT WORK IN YOUR CAPACITY WITH 754.
9:37:59AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY RESOLUTE AND YET VERY RESPECTFUL.
9:38:03AM YOU'RE A PERSON THAT EVEN IF SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOU,
9:38:07AM YOU'RE RESPECTFUL TO THEM AND YOU RESPECT THEIR OPINION.
9:38:10AM I'VE HEARD PEOPLE COMPLIMENT YOU ON THAT.
9:38:12AM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
9:38:14AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A FIGHTER FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF 754.
9:38:17AM YOUR COWORKERS WEATHERING YOUR CAPACITY AS UNION PRESIDENT,
9:38:21AM I REMEMBER WE FIRST MET AT A FUND-RAISER FOR JUSTIN BATTLE'S
9:38:26AM SON, NICK BATTLES MAYBE SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
9:38:32AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR YOUR MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU'RE
9:38:36AM JUST THAT KIND OF GUY.
9:38:37AM I SALUTE YOU FOR YOUR COMPASSION, RESOLUTION AND CIVILITY.
9:38:40AM GOD BLESS YOU.
9:38:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE
9:38:45AM ENJOYED YOUR TENURE WITH THE CITY.
9:38:47AM A GOOD NEGOTIATOR.
9:38:49AM SOMEBODY WHO IS ALWAYS CALM.
9:38:50AM I ADMIRE YOU FOR YOUR HAIR ALSO.
9:38:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME JUST SAY I ENJOY AND CHERISH OUR
9:39:01AM FRIENDSHIP OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED ON COUNCIL.
9:39:04AM BUT AS YOU PREPARE TO LOAD UP THE RV, DON'T FORGET TO STOP
9:39:11AM BY HERE AND LEAVE US BAGELS.
9:39:15AM I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY THURSDAY WHEN YOU HAVE THE BAGELS
9:39:19AM AND DOUGHNUTS FOR US.
9:39:20AM I WISH YOU WELL AND OUTSTANDING CAREER AND WISH YOU THE BEST
9:39:23AM IN THE FUTURE.
9:39:26AM >>HARRY COHEN: GODSPEED AND GOOD LUCK.
9:39:30AM >> COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE VERY KIND WORDS.
9:39:32AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:39:33AM BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE.
9:39:34AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:39:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND
9:39:43AM ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.
9:39:45AM IT WAS MISSED EARLIER.
9:39:46AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:39:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:39:48AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:39:49AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:39:51AM OPPOSED.
9:39:52AM MS. KNOWLES, DO YOU HAVE THIS READY?
9:40:04AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
9:40:07AM COUNCIL, WE APOLOGIZE, SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR THE OMISSION
9:40:10AM OF ALANA BRASIER.
9:40:14AM IT WAS INDEED AN OVERSIGHT.
9:40:15AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HER NOW.
9:40:18AM AND YOU ALSO HAVE A REVISED BALLOT.
9:40:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE READY FOR YOU.
9:40:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:41:00AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE FIGURING THIS OUT.
9:41:02AM AGAIN, ALANA BRASIER.
9:41:04AM I RESIDE AT 3701 NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:41:08AM JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON MYSELF.
9:41:12AM I'M A TAMPA NATIVE, BORN AND RAISED HERE.
9:41:15AM LIVED HERE FOR ALMOST MY ENTIRE LIFE EXCEPT FOR THE FOUR
9:41:19AM YEARS THAT I WENT TO GAINESVILLE FOR COLLEGE.
9:41:21AM I CAME BACK AND WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL AT USF WHERE I RECEIVED
9:41:25AM MY MASTERS OF URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING DEGREE.
9:41:28AM I AM A CERTIFIED URBAN PLANNER.
9:41:30AM I HAVE MY AICP CREDITS AND STATUS.
9:41:35AM I CURRENTLY WORK FOR THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
9:41:38AM I'M THE OPERATIONS AND PUBLIC SPACE MANAGER.
9:41:41AM PRIOR TO JOINING THE PARTNERSHIP ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO, I
9:41:45AM PREVIOUSLY WAS WORKING FOR AN URBAN PLANNING CONSULTING FIRM
9:41:49AM FOR SEVEN YEARS WHERE I WORKED ON AN ARRAY OF DIFFERENT
9:41:52AM TYPES OF PROJECTS.
9:41:53AM A LOT OF IT TRANSPORTATION RELATED.
9:41:55AM SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE ON
9:42:00AM TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, TRANSPORTATION PLANS, HOW THEY ARE
9:42:04AM PUT TOGETHER.
9:42:05AM I'VE WORKED ON LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANS FROM
9:42:08AM BEGINNING TO END.
9:42:09AM TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLANS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, YOU
9:42:13AM NAME IT.
9:42:13AM SO I HAVE THAT REAL DETAILED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT TAKES
9:42:18AM TO PUT THESE PLANS TOGETHER, WHICH IS WHERE ALL OF THESE
9:42:21AM PROJECT PLANS WILL BE PULLED FROM THAT THE AGENCIES ARE THEN
9:42:24AM GOING TO SUBMIT TO THE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR
9:42:27AM REVIEW.
9:42:28AM I'M ALREADY A STEP AHEAD OF A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
9:42:30AM APPLYING FOR THIS POSITION BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING
9:42:34AM THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT THE URBAN PLANNING PROCESS.
9:42:36AM JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD
9:42:43AM HERE IN TAMPA.
9:42:44AM I'VE WORKED ON THE TIGER GRANT.
9:42:47AM I WROTE THE TIGER GRANT ACTUALLY THAT FUNDED THE COMPLETION
9:42:49AM OF THE RIVERWALK AND BUILT THE SELMON GREENWAY.
9:42:53AM I ALSO SERVED AS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR VISION ZERO
9:42:56AM HILLSBOROUGH WITH THE MPO.
9:42:58AM THAT'S A BIG FOCUS OF MINE IS SAFETY ON OUR ROADWAYS FOR
9:43:03AM EVERYONE, MOTORISTS, DOWN TO THE PERSON WALKING ON THE
9:43:06AM STREET.
9:43:06AM SO THAT'S A BIG FOCUS OF MINE.
9:43:10AM I'M NOT A HIGH-PROFILE NAME OR ANYTHING, BUT I WANTED TO LET
9:43:15AM YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I HAVE CONTRIBUTED IN A LOT OF WAYS TO
9:43:17AM THE CITY OF TAMPA ALREADY.
9:43:18AM AND IT WOULD BE MY HONOR TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE AND TO
9:43:21AM CONTINUE DOING SO IN THAT REGARD.
9:43:23AM I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING I REALLY WANTED TO SAY OTHER THAN
9:43:28AM I ALSO WANT TO JUST PLUG THAT I THINK WE ALSO NEED A YOUNG
9:43:33AM VOICE ON THIS COMMITTEE, TOO, TO REPRESENT THE MILLENNIAL
9:43:37AM POPULATION THAT IS STARTING TO GROW HERE AND REALLY WANT
9:43:43AM THESE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AS WELL.
9:43:46AM SO I BRING THAT TO THE TABLE ALSO.
9:43:48AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND I'LL ANSWER
9:43:50AM ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
9:43:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:43:53AM THANK YOU.
9:43:59AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:44:01AM YOU HAVE BALLOTS, AND IF YOU WOULD, VOTE FOR ONE.
9:44:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:44:21AM MR. SHELBY.
9:44:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING.
9:44:53AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:44:56AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
9:45:01AM SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC
9:45:04AM HEARING.
9:45:04AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR A
9:45:07AM PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING
9:45:09AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:45:10AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:45:13AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS.
9:45:16AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:45:18AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:45:21AM AND IT IS REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED
9:45:24AM PERSONALLY TO A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER
9:45:27AM ISSUES DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:45:30AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:45:35AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:45:39AM THANK YOU.
9:45:41AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:45:42AM METESMOT.
9:45:44AM ONE THING I ALWAYS SPEAK ON, I'M WRITING A BOOK ON IT RIGHT
9:45:48AM NOW.
9:45:48AM IT'S CALLED "DOING TOO MUCH."
9:45:50AM I SPEAK ON A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED.
9:45:55AM A CONCERN KIND OF HATRED.
9:45:58AM IT'S A UNIVERSAL.
9:45:59AM IT'S A NATIONAL HATRED.
9:46:01AM IT'S A LOCAL HATRED THAT HAS MANIFESTED ITSELF RIGHT HERE IN
9:46:09AM THIS CITY COUNCIL OF AFRICAN PEOPLE, OF BLACK SKIN.
9:46:13AM IT'S A HATRED.
9:46:17AM [NO ENCODER]
9:46:48AM [NO ENCODER]
9:46:50AM -- THE HATRED IS SO GREAT FOR THE AFRICAN MAN, WOMAN AND
9:46:53AM CHILD THAT YOU HAVE A STINKIN' NASTY MAYOR HAVING 600,000
9:46:58AM BICYCLE STOPS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE BLACK
9:47:01AM PEOPLE HAVE MOBILITY.
9:47:02AM YOU HAVE BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT CAN'T GET THEIR
9:47:06AM DRIVER'S LICENSE BECAUSE THEY GOT STOPPED ON A BICYCLE, BUT
9:47:13AM THEY SAY THEY ARE IMPORTANT.
9:47:15AM THEY HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
9:47:16AM THEY HAVE HARTLINE AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT COME RIGHT
9:47:19AM HERE AND SPEAK OF THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPORTATION.
9:47:23AM AND THE HATRED FOR THE NEGRO SKIN IS SO GREAT.
9:47:28AM THAT WE HAVE BICYCLE STOPS.
9:47:31AM YOUR BICYCLE DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER LIGHTING ON IT IN THE
9:47:35AM DAYTIME.
9:47:36AM IT'S A HATRED FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE HERE, THEY
9:47:41AM ARE SAYING THEY WANT TO BE MAYOR, THEY WANT TO DO THIS.
9:47:45AM THEY WANT TO MAKE THE CITY GREAT.
9:47:47AM IT'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO.
9:47:48AM THEY HAVE GOT A HATRED FOR A CERTAIN KIND OF PEOPLE.
9:47:52AM IF I WAS THE MAYOR OF THIS CITY, I SHALL LOVE EVERYBODY.
9:47:58AM I SHALL LOVE FOR THE GAYS.
9:48:00AM I SHALL LOVE FOR THE JEWS.
9:48:02AM I SHALL LOVE FOR THE BLACKS.
9:48:03AM I SHALL LOVE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTIALLY MENTALLY
9:48:07AM DISABLED.
9:48:08AM I SHALL LOVE FOR EVERYONE.
9:48:10AM THE POOR, THE WORKING CLASS, THE DEVELOPERS, BUT IT WON'T BE
9:48:16AM THAT HATRED.
9:48:18AM AND NO MATTER WHAT, YOU COME TO YOU PEOPLE WITH, NOTHING YOU
9:48:24AM CAN DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HEAR THE CITIZENS.
9:48:27AM YOU'VE GOT CODE ENFORCEMENT HARASSING PEOPLE.
9:48:30AM YOU HAVE THE MAYOR CALLING BLACK WOMEN BITCHES AND CALLING
9:48:33AM FOR THE LYNCHING OF AN AFRICAN MAN AND NONE OF YOU ALL HAVE
9:48:38AM COURAGE, NO COURAGE AND NO COMPASSION.
9:49:00AM >> I AM WORLDWIDE GLOBAL SOVEREIGN BERNARD BOOTH.
9:49:07AM UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE.
9:49:08AM I'M HERE TO OPEN UP OUR GOVERNMENT HERE IN TAMPA AND ALSO TO
9:49:18AM INVITE TAMPA BAY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT,
9:49:23AM TPD -- ABOARD.
9:49:32AM I'M PULLING YOU ABOARD BECAUSE THE STATE DONE LOST THEIR
9:49:44AM DARN MIND AND DECIDE TO CONTINUE GOING ON WITH THEIR
9:49:49AM DEMOCRATICAL, COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST, EUROPEAN TAKEOVER OF
9:49:55AM AMERICA.
9:49:55AM LOST POWER IN 1977 AND THEN LOST POWER AGAIN IN 2007.
9:50:02AM RIGHT NOW ALL YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS A WORLDWIDE GLOBAL
9:50:05AM HUMAN TRAFFICKING, MONEY LAUNDERING AND ALL THIS AND THAT.
9:50:09AM LIKE ALL THE FEDERAL RESERVE FUNDS BELONG TO YOU.
9:50:12AM ALL OF THE TRAFFICKING AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING BELONGS TO YOU.
9:50:18AM LIKE I TOLD PRIME MINISTER FOREIGN UNITED STATES DONALD J.
9:50:22AM TRUMP, DEMOCRATS WANT THE MONEY, GIVE IT TO THEM.
9:50:27AM THEY WANT THIS, GIVE IT TO THEM AND THEN HAVE SECRET SERVICE
9:50:31AM ARREST HIM.
9:50:32AM GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANT AND THEN ARREST HIM.
9:50:34AM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON MY SOIL AND I DID NOT
9:50:39AM GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO OPERATE OR TO HAVE AUTHORITY OR TO
9:50:43AM HAVE JURISDICTION HERE.
9:50:45AM THEY ARE A POLITICAL TERRORIST.
9:50:49AM THEY SPENT TIME KILLING OFF REPUBLICAN LEADERS.
9:50:51AM THEY SPENT TIME BLAMING DIFFERENT SKIN TONES.
9:50:56AM AS A BLACK JEW GAVE THE OWNERS FOR KKK LYNCHINGS AND ALL OF
9:51:02AM THAT STUFF.
9:51:03AM THERE IS A MIXED CONFUSION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
9:51:06AM NOT REALLY ANY HATE.
9:51:08AM JUST CONFUSION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:51:13AM BLACK MAN SET HIMSELF UP AND THE WHITE MAN SET HIMSELF UP.
9:51:17AM BUT BECAUSE THEY REFUSED TO GAIN THE EDUCATION AND REALIZE
9:51:20AM WHAT IS GOING ON.
9:51:21AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING UNDER REFORM ORGANIZATION.
9:51:24AM COLUMBIA BELONGS TO EUROPE.
9:51:27AM THEY DO NOT BELONG TO US AND THEY DO NOT BELONG ON THIS
9:51:30AM SOIL.
9:51:31AM THAT IS AN OUTFIT, OUTFITTING NOTHING BUT CRIMINALS AND A
9:51:35AM WAY TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER AMERICA.
9:51:37AM OUR CAPITAL IS HERE IN TAMPA.
9:51:40AM OUR HEADQUARTERS IS HERE IN TAMPA.
9:51:42AM FOR THE RECORD, BY THE RECORD ON THE RECORD BY THE LIVING
9:51:45AM RECORD, ON THE LIVING RECORD, BY THE LIVING RECORD, MY WILL
9:51:50AM WILL BE DONE THAT IS DONE.
9:51:52AM ALL LEGAL AND CONSTITUTION, YOU KNOW YOU FOLLOW SUIT.
9:51:57AM THANK YOU.
9:51:58AM HAVE A WONDERFUL BLESSED DAY.
9:52:23AM >> MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ.
9:52:26AM 2705 FIG STREET IN THE ARMORY GARDENS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
9:52:32AM I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION.
9:52:34AM I CAME BEFORE YOU TO GIVE YOU A STATUS ON THE VILA BROTHERS
9:52:38AM PARK, WHICH YOU KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IMPROVING.
9:52:41AM ON THE FIRST PAGE, YOU WILL SEE WHAT YOUR $300,000 HAS GONE
9:52:46AM FOR.
9:52:46AM THAT IS THE PLANS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BEGIN IN THE NEXT
9:52:50AM TWO WEEKS.
9:52:51AM YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF IS ECSTATIC ABOUT THAT.
9:52:54AM BUT I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
9:53:00AM MOST OF YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING A FUND-RAISER ABOUT SIX
9:53:04AM MONTHS.
9:53:04AM I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC WHO DONATED AND ALSO THOSE OF YOU
9:53:07AM WHO HELPED US OUT WITH THE FUND-RAISING.
9:53:12AM AFTER PHASE ONE IS FINISHED, PHASE TWO COMES IN.
9:53:14AM PHASE ONE IS THE CITY'S PART.
9:53:16AM PHASE TWO IS THE COMMUNITY'S PART.
9:53:19AM THROUGH OUR FUND-RAISING, WE HAVE RAISED ENOUGH MONEY TO
9:53:22AM COMPLETELY IRRIGATE THE VILA BROTHERS PARK AND TO PUT TREES
9:53:28AM IN.
9:53:29AM ALONG WITH THE TREES, WE HAVE A GRANT FROM THE NATIONAL
9:53:31AM REALTORS ASSOCIATION FOR $3,000 TOWARDS TREES.
9:53:36AM AND WE ALSO HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT THE SUN SAILS OVER THE
9:53:40AM PARK FOR THE TREE THAT WAS CUT DOWN.
9:53:42AM WE WANTED TO KEEP YOU ABREAST.
9:53:45AM LET YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS STILL INTO THIS.
9:53:47AM WE'RE STILL RAISING MONEY EVEN AFTER THESE TWO EXPENSES, WE
9:53:50AM STILL HAVE MORE MONEY TO PUT IN THERE.
9:53:53AM I WANTED YOU TO SEE THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT, OF THE
9:53:59AM IRRIGATION SYSTEM WE'RE PUTTING IN.
9:54:01AM GO TO PAGE THREE, THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE IS TO ASK, OF
9:54:08AM COURSE, YOU'RE GETTING READY TO WORK ON THE BUDGET.
9:54:11AM WE WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THE VILA BROTHERS PARK.
9:54:13AM THE BLACK LINE AROUND THE PARK IS THE EXISTING FENCE THAT IS
9:54:17AM THERE.
9:54:18AM THE PROPOSAL ON THE PLANS FROM THE CITY IS TO EVENTUALLY
9:54:22AM FINISH ENCLOSING THE PARK, WHICH IS THE GREEN LINE THAT'S
9:54:27AM OVER BY TAMPANIA.
9:54:28AM THAT'S ABOUT 600 FEET OF FENCING.
9:54:32AM WE WANT TO SEE ABOUT GETTING THE FENCING DONE BASICALLY TO
9:54:35AM SECURE THE PARK BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ATVs AND
9:54:39AM DIRT BIKES THAT THINK IT'S FUN TO PLAY IN THE PARK EVEN WHEN
9:54:43AM CHILDREN ARE PRESENT.
9:54:44AM LAST YEAR, AT OUR EASTER EGG HUNT, WE HAD TWO KIDS ON DIRT
9:54:49AM BIKES AND THEY COULD CARE LESS THAT THE KIDS WERE OUT THERE
9:54:52AM PICKING EGGS AND DOING THAT SORT OF THING.
9:54:55AM WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR SECURITY REASONS.
9:54:59AM ALSO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NEVER FELT
9:55:02AM THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND AND IT KEEPS
9:55:06AM COMING UP ABOUT PARKING.
9:55:07AM SO WE HAVE AN IDEA FOR A SOLUTION AND WE HAVE SHARED IT WITH
9:55:11AM PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THAT IS TO TAKE THE FENCE THAT
9:55:13AM THEY ARE GOING TO PUT IN ON TAMPANIA, MOVE IT ABOUT SIX FEET
9:55:18AM IN, AND MAKE PARKING THERE.
9:55:20AM WE DON'T CARE IF IT'S PAVED OR NOT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE
9:55:23AM PARKING AREA.
9:55:24AM THAT WOULD TAKE IN ABOUT 20 CARS AND ON LEMON ABOUT ANOTHER
9:55:27AM FIVE.
9:55:28AM SO 25 CARS.
9:55:29AM SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU TO REMEMBER THE VILA BROTHERS PARK
9:55:34AM WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET.
9:55:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE BACK FROM
9:55:40AM PARKS AND RECREATION -- HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE BACK
9:55:43AM FROM PARKS AND RECREATION ABOUT THE SUGGESTION YOU JUST
9:55:46AM MADE?
9:55:46AM >> YES, WE DID.
9:55:47AM WE MET WITH THEM MONDAY TO DISCUSS THAT AND DISCUSS THE FACT
9:55:52AM THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARDS MAKING IT A PATRIOTIC PARK.
9:55:56AM WE DON'T THINK THERE IS A BETTER LOCATION FOR A PATRIOTIC
9:56:00AM PARK WITH THE ARMORY, NOW THE JCC ACROSS THE STREET, AND
9:56:02AM ALSO THE NATIONAL GUARD PART OF OUR MILITARY THAT IS THERE.
9:56:07AM SO WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE IT A
9:56:10AM PARK THAT HONORS VETERANS, NOT JUST THE VILLA BROTHERS, BUT
9:56:14AM ALL VETERANS.
9:56:15AM THE YELLOW LINE AROUND THE PARK IS A WALKING PATH THAT WE
9:56:18AM HAVE ASKED THEM TO MAKE IT LARGE ENOUGH FOR HANDICAP AND
9:56:21AM EVENTUALLY WE HOPE TO HAVE EXERCISE SPOTS ALONG THE WAY.
9:56:26AM WE'RE TALKING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE
9:56:30AM SEVEN OF THEM TO REMEMBER THE VILLA BROTHERS.
9:56:32AM EACH ONE OF THEM, AND THEY WOULD BE EXERCISING HANDICAP CAN
9:56:38AM USE AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE AND THE PARK IS FREE.
9:56:41AM LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, WE ASK THE BIG EXPENSE IS THE WALK
9:56:46AM PARK -- THE WALKWAY, BUT THE FENCE SHOULD NOT BE A BIG
9:56:50AM EXPENSE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FINALLY SETTLE AND
9:56:53AM HAVE PARKING AT THE VILA BROTHERS PARK, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A
9:56:57AM PEDESTRIAN PARK.
9:56:57AM SO I THANK YOU.
9:57:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:57:01AM THANK YOU.
9:57:09AM >> HI, GOOD MORNING.
9:57:10AM MY NAME IS DIANA KLINE.
9:57:13AM I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR PREBORN NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
9:57:18AM BEING MURDERED IN TAMPA UNDER YOUR WATCH AND JURISDICTION.
9:57:22AM THERE ARE OVER 200 BABIES MURDERED IN THE WOMB EVERY WEEK IN
9:57:25AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:57:26AM IT'S TIME TO END THE BLOODSHED AND ESTABLISH JUSTICE FOR THE
9:57:30AM PREBORN.
9:57:31AM IT IS MY DUTY AS A CHRISTIAN TO INFORM YOU OF YOUR
9:57:36AM GOD-ORDAINED DUTY TO PRESERVE JUSTICE AND TO PUNISH EVIL.
9:57:38AM ROE VERSUS WADE IS NOT A LAW.
9:57:40AM IT IS A FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED COURT OPINION THAT IS TO BE
9:57:44AM COMPLETELY IGNORED.
9:57:46AM BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN THE SACRED TRUST TO PROTECTING
9:57:49AM INNOCENT LIFE, I'M EXHORTING YOU TO BRING EVERYONE INVOLVED
9:57:53AM IN THE MURDER OF A BABY IN THE WOMB TO JUSTICE.
9:57:56AM YOU HAVE THE POWER AND THE DUTY TO INTERPOSE ON BEHALF OF
9:57:59AM OUR PREBORN CHILDREN IN TAMPA.
9:58:00AM YOU NEED TO TAKE THE TIME AND LEARN HOW TO INTERPOSE FOR THE
9:58:04AM PREBORN.
9:58:05AM THE FIRST PLACE TO START IS TO GO ONLINE AND LEARN ABOUT THE
9:58:09AM DOCTRINE OF THE LESSER MAGISTRATE AT DEFYTYRANTS.COM.
9:58:14AM THAT'S DEFYTYRANTS.COM.
9:58:16AM YOU CAN ALSO GO TO FREETHESTATES.COM TO LEARN HOW OTHERS
9:58:19AM ACROSS THE NATION ARE PROACTIVELY SEEKING LEGISLATION THAT
9:58:22AM WILL CRIMINALIZE MURDER IN THE WOMB.
9:58:24AM THAT SITE AGAIN IS FREETHESTATES.COM.
9:58:27AM GOD'S WORD TELLS US THAT WHEN THE SENTENCE AGAINST AN EVIL
9:58:31AM DEED IS NOT EXECUTED SPEEDILY THAT THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN
9:58:34AM OF MAN IS FULLY SET TO DO EVIL.
9:58:36AM THAT'S ECCLESIASTES 8:11.
9:58:40AM TRAGICALLY, WE HAVE CULTIVATED A CULTURE OF DEATH IN TAMPA
9:58:44AM AND ACROSS THIS NATION THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
9:58:46AM WE ALL NEED TO HUMBLE OURSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK GOD'S
9:58:50AM FAITH AND TURN FROM OUR WICKED WAYS.
9:58:52AM THEN GOD WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND WILL FORGIVE OUR SIN AND
9:58:55AM WILL HEAL OUR LAND.
9:58:56AM GOD ALSO TELLS US WE ARE FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE IN
9:59:02AM GOD'S IMAGE, PSALM 139:14, AND THAT CHILDREN ARE A GIFT FROM
9:59:05AM GOD, PSALM 127:3, AND THAT WE ARE TO OPEN OUR MOUTH FOR THE
9:59:07AM NEEDY, PROVERBS 31:9, AND TO DEFEND THE FATHERLESS, PSALM
9:59:12AM 82:3, AND TO RESCUE THOSE WHO ARE BEING TAKEN TO THE
9:59:14AM SLAUGHTER, PROVERBS 24:11.
9:59:16AM ALL OF US MUST DO OUR PART IN LOVING, NURTURING, AND
9:59:20AM PROTECTING OUR FELLOW IMAGE BEARERS IN THE WOMB.
9:59:23AM LOVE BEGINS IN THE WOMB.
9:59:24AM I WELCOME EACH OF YOU TO JOIN ME IN FRONT OF THE MURDER
9:59:29AM MILLS IN TAMPA TO HELP RESCUE THE PREBORN FROM A BRUTAL
9:59:29AM DEATH.
9:59:30AM INVITE YOUR PASTORS TO JOIN AS WELL.
9:59:32AM THERE ARE LOTS OF RESOURCES IN TAMPA FOR WOMEN WHO ARE WITH
9:59:35AM CHILD, AND YOU CAN HELP ME TO GET THIS INFORMATION INTO THE
9:59:38AM HANDS OF THOSE MURDER-MINDED MOTHERS.
9:59:41AM COME SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW HELPLESS THE BABIES ARE AND HOW
9:59:45AM YOU MUST INTERPOSE ON THEIR BEHALF.
9:59:47AM YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE MISSIONARY WORK THAT I DO
9:59:49AM FOR THE PREBORN AT LOVETHEPREBORN.COM.
9:59:53AM THAT'S LOVETHEPREBORN.COM.
9:59:55AM THANK YOU.
9:59:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:59:57AM ALL RIGHT.
9:59:59AM NEXT PERSON.
10:00:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:00:04AM JUSTIN RICKE, 103 EAST 26th AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33603.
10:00:09AM I JUST HAVE TWO TOPICS THAT I WANTED TO REACH OUT TO YOU
10:00:13AM ABOUT.
10:00:13AM THE FIRST ONE IS WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES FROM THE
10:00:16AM NEIGHBORHOOD HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO THROW MY SUPPORT BEHIND
10:00:19AM FOR THE IOC.
10:00:20AM MR. FERNANDEZ AND MS. BRASIER.
10:00:25AM I WON'T PUT WAIT ON EITHER ONE.
10:00:26AM I LIKE THEM BOTH.
10:00:28AM I THINK THEY ARE BOTH OUTSTANDING CANDIDATES.
10:00:29AM THEIR SERVICE SPEAKS FOR THEMSELVES.
10:00:31AM I REALLY URGE YOU TO REVIEW EITHER ONE OF THEM HIGHLY.
10:00:34AM THE SECOND ONE, AND UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T STAY FOR THE
10:00:37AM HEARING, WAS ITEM NUMBER 44 ABOUT THE FENCE CODE.
10:00:44AM I REALLY, REALLY --
10:00:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR --
10:00:47AM >> OH, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT NOW.
10:00:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNFORTUNATELY, NO.
10:00:50AM >> WELL, I CAN'T STAY FOR IT.
10:00:52AM HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL BE HERE.
10:00:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
10:00:59AM COMMENT?
10:00:59AM SEEING NONE, MS. KNOWLES.
10:01:03AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
10:01:06AM COUNCIL, YOUR APPOINTMENT FOR THE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT
10:01:09AM COMMITTEE IS MR. RICHARD FERNANDEZ.
10:01:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY COUNCIL MAKE A RESOLUTION FOR A
10:01:21AM RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT?
10:01:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE RESOLUTION TO THE EFFECT THAT
10:01:24AM MR. FERNANDEZ IS APPOINTED TO THE IOC.
10:01:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.
10:01:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
10:01:32AM MR. VIERA.
10:01:32AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:01:34AM OPPOSED.
10:01:35AM WHO SECONDED?
10:01:43AM WAS IT YOU?
10:01:45AM CORRECT THAT.
10:01:46AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:01:47AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:01:49AM OPPOSED?
10:01:50AM ALL RIGHT.
10:01:51AM WE GO TO -- ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC OF
10:01:56AM RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:01:58AM SEEING NONE, GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS ITEM NUMBER 7,
10:02:04AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:02:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT AN
10:02:08AM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST IT READING -- FOR FIRST READING
10:02:13AM CONSIDERATION.
10:02:13AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE AVAILABLE TO US.
10:02:15AM >>SAL TERRITO: SAL TERRITO, CITY ATTORNEY.
10:02:18AM YOU HAD AN OPTION TO CONTINUE BECAUSE MS. KERT IS NOT HERE.
10:02:21AM IT IS A VERY SIMPLE ORDINANCE YOU WANT TO PASS.
10:02:25AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
10:02:26AM I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
10:02:29AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING REVISIONS TO
10:02:31AM THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 16, PARKS AND
10:02:35AM RECREATION, AMENDING SECTION 16-91, A LIST OF DEDICATED
10:02:40AM PARKS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
10:02:42AM CONFLICT THEREWITH.
10:02:44AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:02:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
10:02:50AM MR. MIRANDA.
10:02:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:52AM THOSE OPPOSED?
10:02:54AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:02:57AM FEBRUARY 21st, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:03:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 8.
10:03:04AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:03:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:03:09AM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:03:12AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC
10:03:14AM PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO
10:03:16AM THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION, OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN
10:03:19AM PROPERTY OWNED BY DEVIN A. BAILLAIRGE LOCATED AT 211 WEST
10:03:27AM WATROUS AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC
10:03:31AM DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE
10:03:34AM TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING
10:03:36AM FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10:03:39AM CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:03:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:03:42AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:03:43AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:03:45AM OPPOSED?
10:03:48AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FEBRUARY 21st,
10:03:51AM 2019, 9:30 A.M.
10:03:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO TO REPORTS.
10:03:55AM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
10:03:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
10:03:58AM MOVE ITEMS 9, 10, 11.
10:04:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:02AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:04:03AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
10:04:05AM OPPOSED.
10:04:06AM PARKS AND RECREATION, MR. MANISCALCO.
10:04:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:04:09AM I MOVE ITEMS 12 AND 13.
10:04:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:04:12AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:04:13AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
10:04:15AM OPPOSED.
10:04:15AM PUBLIC WORKS, MR. MANISCALCO.
10:04:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 14 AND 15.
10:04:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:04:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:04:28AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO IN THE ABSENCE OF
10:04:31AM MS. CAPIN.
10:04:32AM AND SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:33AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
10:04:35AM OPPOSED?
10:04:36AM OKAY.
10:04:36AM FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT, MR. HARRY COHEN.
10:04:39AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE ITEMS 16, 17, 18, 19.
10:04:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN, SECONDED BY
10:04:46AM MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:47AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:04:48AM OPPOSED?
10:04:48AM WE GO TO BUILDING, ZONING, PRESERVATION COMMITTEE,
10:04:52AM MR. VIERA.
10:04:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:04:54AM I HEREBY MOVE ITEMS 20 THROUGH 35.
10:04:57AM >> SECOND.
10:04:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
10:05:00AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:05:02AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:05:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, THAT'S ALSO THE SUBSTITUTE FOR
10:05:08AM NUMBER 30, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:05:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:05:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:05:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, MR. SUAREZ.
10:05:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:05:13AM I MOVE ITEMS 36 THROUGH 39.
10:05:16AM >> SECOND.
10:05:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:05:18AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:05:19AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:05:20AM OPPOSED?
10:05:21AM ALL RIGHT.
10:05:22AM WE GO TO ITEMS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM NUMBER 40.
10:05:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MOVE THE ITEM.
10:05:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
10:05:30AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:05:31AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
10:05:32AM OPPOSED?
10:05:33AM ALL RIGHT.
10:05:35AM WE GO TO 10:00, ITEM NUMBER 41.
10:05:41AM >> MOTION TO OPEN, PLEASE.
10:05:42AM >> MOVE TO OPEN.
10:05:45AM >> SECOND.
10:05:45AM >> THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:05:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHO MADE THE MOTION?
10:05:48AM >> I DID -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:05:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO TO OPEN THE 10:00
10:05:53AM PUBLIC HEARING.
10:05:53AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:05:55AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:05:56AM OPPOSED?
10:05:56AM YES, MA'AM.
10:05:57AM >>KRISTIN MORA: GOOD MORNING.
10:06:00AM KRISTIN MORA LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:06:01AM THIS IS A PETITION TO ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
10:06:03AM DISTRICT.
10:06:04AM THIS REZONING CAME BEFORE YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THEY ARE
10:06:09AM NOW COMING IN TO ESTABLISH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT,
10:06:12AM WHICH WILL GIVE --
10:06:14AM [NO ENCODER]
10:06:39AM [NO ENCODER]
10:06:53AM [NO ENCODER]
10:06:56AM >> -- AS A MATTER OF INTEREST ABOUT THESE THIS WEEK.
10:06:58AM I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT THAT THIS IS
10:07:04AM WHEN A DEVELOPER ESSENTIALLY TAXES THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO
10:07:09AM PROVIDE SERVICES WITHIN A DESIGNATED BOUNDARY, CORRECT?
10:07:13AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:07:15AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU.
10:07:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:07:26AM MY NAME IS ALYSSA WILLSON.
10:07:28AM I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM HOPPING, GREEN & SAMS.
10:07:32AM I REPRESENT THE PETITIONER, THE BROMLEY TAMPA INVESTORS,
10:07:34AM LLC, REQUESTING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MTERC COMMUNITY
10:07:40AM DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
10:07:41AM WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS.
10:07:43AM I HAVE MR. MARK BENTLEY, THE LANDOWNER AND DEVELOPER'S LEGAL
10:07:50AM COUNSEL.
10:07:51AM I HAVE MR. SCOTT BRISENDAG, THE FUTURE DISTRICT MANAGER AND
10:07:58AM FINANCIAL CONSULTANT.
10:08:01AM AND I HAVE MR. LEE HARWELL, THE CONSULTING ENGINEER.
10:08:09AM ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE HELPED PREPARE EXHIBITS
10:08:13AM PRESENTED IN THE PETITION, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
10:08:17AM QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:08:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:08:19AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:08:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD.
10:08:25AM MR. COHEN MADE A COMMENT ABOUT CDDs.
10:08:30AM ACTUALLY, IT'S CREATED SO THAT AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IS
10:08:34AM COMPLETELY DEVELOPED, THEN THERE IS AN ELECTED BOARD OF
10:08:36AM PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THAT AREA FOR THE CDD.
10:08:40AM SO IT IS ABOUT TAXING YOURSELF, BUT THEN EVENTUALLY IT
10:08:44AM BECOMES ITS OWN INDEPENDENT SORT OF BOARD TO TAKE CARE OF
10:08:48AM THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT'S DEFINED, ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
10:08:51AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:08:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE LOOK
10:08:54AM AT THE PUBLIC RECORD AND THEY SEE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE
10:08:57AM GOING TO BE SITTING ON THIS BOARD, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FROM
10:08:59AM SARASOTA.
10:09:00AM YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY IN THAT AREA.
10:09:03AM IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ELECTED RIGHTS.
10:09:06AM THEY HAVE RIGHTS AS THE DEVELOPERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
10:09:08AM PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
10:09:09AM AND THEN THEY EVENTUALLY CEDE THOSE RIGHTS AS THE PHASES
10:09:14AM CONTINUE AND COMPLETE ITSELF.
10:09:15AM >> YES.
10:09:15AM THERE IS A STATUTORY PROCESS FOR THAT.
10:09:18AM PRELIMINARILY, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE FIRST APPOINTED BY
10:09:20AM ORDINANCE, AND THEN THERE'S A LANDOWNER'S MEETING WHEREBY
10:09:23AM THE LANDOWNER ELECTS THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN OVER A
10:09:31AM STATUTORY PROCESS, DEPENDING ON POPULATION SIZE, IT'S
10:09:34AM GENERALLY AROUND SIX YEARS THOSE SEATS START TRANSITIONING
10:09:38AM TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE QUALIFIED ELECTORS THAT LIVE
10:09:41AM WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
10:09:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE
10:09:45AM THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF CDDs THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE NEW
10:09:48AM TAMPA AREA, FOR THE MOST PART.
10:09:50AM MOST OF THEM ARE NOT IN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TRADITIONAL
10:09:53AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:09:55AM WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CDDs UP THERE BUT NOT A LOT DOWN IN
10:09:58AM THIS PART OF THE CITY.
10:10:00AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THAT MEANT.
10:10:03AM >> UNDERSTOOD.
10:10:03AM EXCELLENT POINT.
10:10:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: APPRECIATE IT.
10:10:05AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:10:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:10:07AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:10:07AM ALL RIGHT.
10:10:09AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 41?
10:10:14AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:10:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:10:16AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:10:17AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:10:20AM OPPOSED.
10:10:20AM MS. CAPIN, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 41.
10:10:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:10:25AM ITEM NUMBER 41, FILE NUMBER E2018-8, CHAPTER 27, AN
10:10:31AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:10:33AM AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE
10:10:37AM MTERC COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT (GENERALLY LOCATED
10:10:44AM SOUTH OF I-275, EAST OF NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, NORTH OF
10:10:48AM WEST CYPRESS STREET AND WEST OF HIMES AVENUE, COMPRISING
10:10:53AM 19.136 ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS); FOR THE PURPOSE OF
10:11:00AM MANAGING AND DELIVERING BASIC COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE
10:11:02AM IMPROVEMENTS; SAID DISTRICT TO BE LOCATED ENTIRELY WITHIN
10:11:05AM THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA; THE SAME BEING MORE
10:11:07AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF; PURSUANT TO
10:11:10AM CHAPTER 190, FLORIDA STATUTES; NAMING THE DISTRICT;
10:11:14AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:11:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MS. CAPIN.
10:11:19AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:11:20AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION -- YEAH, SECOND READING.
10:11:25AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:11:32AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:11:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
10:11:34AM WE GO TO WELL, WE CAN'T DO 10:30.
10:11:43AM >> WE DO HAVE A STAFF REPORT.
10:11:46AM >> THEY CONTINUED -- WELL, ONE IS A RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:11:48AM ONE IS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
10:11:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S 10:09.
10:11:56AM DO WE WANT TO STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 10:30?
10:11:59AM >> SURE.
10:12:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:12:01AM WE STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 10:30.
10:12:04AM [RECESS]
10:12:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE THE MEETING.
10:33:45AM ROLL CALL.
10:33:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
10:33:48AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
10:33:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:33:51AM >> CAPIN?
10:33:52AM MIRANDA?
10:33:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:33:54AM >> VIERA?
10:33:54AM REDDICK?
10:33:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
10:33:56AM WE NEED TO OPEN UP THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
10:33:59AM >> SO MOVED.
10:34:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:34:01AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:34:02AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:34:04AM OPPOSED?
10:34:05AM ALL RIGHT.
10:34:07AM NOW, ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 42 THROUGH 45, PLEASE
10:34:18AM STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:34:21AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE
10:34:24AM TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:34:26AM THANK YOU.
10:34:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION
10:34:33AM TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
10:34:38AM AVAILABLE --
10:34:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHY DO YOU ALWAYS BEAT ME TO WHAT I'M
10:34:39AM GETTING READY TO SAY NEXT?
10:34:39AM I WAS JUST GETTING READY TO SAY THAT.
10:34:41AM MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:34:47AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:34:48AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:34:50AM OPPOSED?
10:34:50AM ITEM NUMBER 42.
10:34:54AM >> JOHN MARSH, PLANNING DIVISION.
10:35:05AM ITEM 42 IS SIDEWALK CAFE PERMIT APPLICATION 19-06.
10:35:09AM HALL ON FRANKLIN AT 1701 NORTH FRANKLIN TO OPERATE A
10:35:13AM SIDEWALK CAFE IN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:35:18AM TPD, FIRE, RISK MANAGEMENT, TRANSPORTATION, URBAN DESIGN
10:35:24AM HAVE ALL REVIEWED THIS PERMIT AND HAVE NO OBJECTIONS.
10:35:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
10:35:31AM ITEM NUMBER 42?
10:35:34AM >> HI.
10:35:35AM CATHERINE O'DONNELLY, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE
10:35:39AM 2700, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:35:41AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE
10:35:45AM A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
10:35:46AM I THINK JOHN PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT.
10:35:48AM BUT THE HALL ON FRANKLIN IS LOOKING TO ADD JUST UNDER 300
10:35:52AM SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR CAFE SPACE.
10:35:54AM YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IN 2018, THEY WERE FINALISTS FOR AN URBAN
10:36:00AM EXCELLENCE AWARD FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AS A LANDMARK
10:36:02AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:36:03AM SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF
10:36:06AM AND ARE REALLY LOOKING TO JUST ADD THE SPACE TO MEET
10:36:09AM ADDITIONAL DEMAND AND CONTRIBUTE TO PLACE-MAKING IN THE
10:36:13AM HEIGHTS.
10:36:13AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:36:15AM THANK YOU.
10:36:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:36:17AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:36:18AM ANYONE ELSE NEEDS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 42?
10:36:25AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:36:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
10:36:28AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:36:29AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:36:31AM OPPOSED?
10:36:31AM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS?
10:36:38AM >> SO MOVED.
10:36:39AM >> SECOND.
10:36:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:36:41AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:36:42AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:36:44AM OPPOSED?
10:36:45AM OKAY.
10:36:46AM WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 43.
10:36:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:36:52AM BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:36:55AM VAC 19-02 IS A REQUEST TO VACATE AN ALLEY LOCATED NEAR SLIGH
10:36:59AM AND THE RIVER.
10:37:00AM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
10:37:04AM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.
10:37:06AM THE ALLEY RUNS SOUTH BETWEEN ADAH AND BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF
10:37:12AM SLIGH AND NORTH OF ROME.
10:37:14AM UNIMPROVED.
10:37:14AM THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH BOULEVARD.
10:37:17AM YOU CAN SEE THE FENCING.
10:37:20AM >> [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:37:23AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.
10:37:24AM THIS IS THE OTHER WAY LOOKING WEST FROM ADAH AVENUE AND
10:37:27AM FENCE THERE.
10:37:28AM THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM SLIGH
10:37:31AM AVENUE.
10:37:31AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST AND NO EASEMENTS ARE
10:37:34AM REQUIRED.
10:37:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
10:37:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:37:45AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
10:37:48AM LIKE BARBARA SAID, THE ALLEY IS UNIMPROVED.
10:37:52AM MY CLIENT OBTAINED THIS PROPERTY AT A PUBLIC AUCTION.
10:37:54AM HE'S TRYING TO BRING IT INTO CODE AS THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD
10:37:58AM A SHED IN THE BACK THAT WAS OUT OF CODE.
10:38:01AM ALLOWING THIS ALLEY TO BE VACATED WOULD BRING THE PROPERTY
10:38:05AM BACK IN CODE.
10:38:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:38:08AM ALL RIGHT.
10:38:09AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 43?
10:38:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
10:38:16AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:38:16AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:38:18AM OPPOSED?
10:38:18AM MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ 43.
10:38:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 43 -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:38:26AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:38:30AM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
10:38:34AM THE ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF WEST SLIGH AVENUE,
10:38:37AM NORTH OF WEST ELM STREET, EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD, WEST OF
10:38:41AM NORTH ADAH AVENUE IN THE FIRST ADDITION OF WEST RIVERSIDE, A
10:38:45AM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
10:38:49AM IN THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF,
10:38:53AM SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS AND MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
10:38:56AM HEREIN, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:38:59AM SECONDED BY MR. VIERA.
10:38:59AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
10:39:01AM OPPOSED?
10:39:03AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:39:04AM FEBRUARY 21st, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:39:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 44.
10:39:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:39:21AM ROBIN HORTON SILVERMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:39:23AM WE ARE HERE ON ARC REVIEW 17-330 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE
10:39:26AM TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 2723 NORTH MORGAN STREET.
10:39:30AM THIS WAS CONCERNING AN ARC DENIAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF
10:39:35AM APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FENCE, SIX-FOOT TALL FENCE IN THE
10:39:39AM TAMPA HEIGHTS DISTRICT.
10:39:40AM YOU MAY RECALL, WE'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.
10:39:43AM THERE IS A CONCURRENT CONSIDERATION OF REVISITING THE
10:39:47AM GUIDELINES, WHICH RACHEL PETERKIN FROM LEGAL CAN ADDRESS IN
10:39:51AM MORE DETAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:39:52AM RIGHT NOW, YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING TWO ITEMS.
10:39:54AM YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE REVIEW PROCEDURES WITH THE
10:39:56AM APPLICABLE STANDARD OF 27-115 K AND L.
10:40:00AM AND THEN THE SAMPLE MOTION UNDER 2761, THE REVIEW IS
10:40:05AM DE NOVO, YOU CAN AFFIRM THE ARC'S DENIAL, AFFIRM WITH
10:40:09AM CONDITIONS, OVERTURN ARC'S DENIAL OR REMAND ARC'S DENIAL.
10:40:14AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL?
10:40:16AM APPLICANT?
10:40:18AM OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:40:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:40:25AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND HISTORIC
10:40:27AM PRESERVATION MANAGER.
10:40:29AM I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEF PHOTO ESSAY.
10:40:34AM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE
10:40:41AM TAMPA HEIGHTS LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
10:40:44AM IT'S SITUATED ON MORGAN STREET.
10:40:51AM THE GREEN BOX INDICATED.
10:40:59AM GLADYS IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH.
10:41:01AM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
10:41:05AM THIS IS SHOT FROM THE CORNER, THE FENCE IN QUESTION IS JUST
10:41:11AM BEHIND THAT CAR ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.
10:41:17AM SHOT FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
10:41:22AM THIS IS THE SUBJECT OF THE REVIEW.
10:41:27AM WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS DESIGN GUIDELINES, THERE'S A
10:41:29AM SECTION IN THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA THAT READS FENCES OR WALLS
10:41:37AM ALONG THE FRONT YARD AND ALONG THE CORNER YARD OF THE
10:41:39AM BUILDING FACING A STREET SHALL BE NO HIGHER THAN FOUR FEET.
10:41:43AM BEYOND THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, THE FENCE HEIGHT MAY
10:41:46AM INCREASE TO MEET THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED BY CITY ZONING
10:41:49AM CODE, WHICH IS SIX FEET.
10:41:51AM SO THAT SIX-FOOT SEGMENT WOULD BE RESTRICTED ESSENTIALLY
10:41:56AM FROM THE REAR CORNER AND BEYOND.
10:41:58AM HERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
10:42:07AM THAT SITUATION IF IT WERE NOT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
10:42:11AM DISTRICT.
10:42:11AM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CITY CODE WOULD ALLOW A SIX-FOOT FENCE
10:42:15AM ESSENTIALLY AT THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE
10:42:18AM ENCOMPASSING THE PROPERTY.
10:42:19AM AND IN THE FRONT YARD, IT WOULD EITHER BE A THREE FOOT,
10:42:24AM COULD BE OPAQUE FENCE OR FOUR-FOOT TRANSPARENT FENCE.
10:42:27AM WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT
10:42:34AM REQUIREMENT ALONG THE STREET THEN REQUIRES THAT THAT LOWER
10:42:39AM FENCE GO ALL THE WAY TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
10:42:42AM THIS CAME IN AS A VIOLATION ESSENTIALLY IN JULY OF 2017.
10:42:52AM IT WAS A POINT THE APPLICANT AS PART OF HIS PROCESS TO
10:42:56AM ALLEVIATE THE VIOLATION APPLIED FOR A CERTIFICATE OF
10:43:01AM APPROPRIATENESS THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
10:43:03AM THAT HEARING OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 19 OF 2017.
10:43:10AM THE APPLICATION WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DENIED AT THAT HEARING.
10:43:13AM WHEN WE CAME BACK, THIS IS KIND OF A LONG TIMELINE, BUT I'LL
10:43:19AM TRY TO BE CONCISE.
10:43:20AM ORIGINALLY, CITY COUNCIL HAD ASKED WE GET ESSENTIALLY THE
10:43:25AM INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
10:43:27AM THIS SITUATION, TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:43:31AM WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THEM ON JUNE THE 26th, WHICH
10:43:37AM STATED THAT THEY WISHED TO LEAVE THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AS-IS
10:43:42AM WITHOUT ANY CHANGES.
10:43:43AM SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE DID COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
10:43:47AM COUNCIL ASKED US TO TAKE THIS BACK TO THE HPC.
10:43:50AM WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS UNDER SECTION 27-264.
10:43:55AM I WAS LAST HERE ON NOVEMBER 1st.
10:43:58AM I WAS UPDATING YOU ON THAT PROCESS.
10:44:00AM SINCE THEN, THE CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT WHEN YOU MAKE ANY
10:44:03AM TYPE OF CHANGE TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, YOU DO A
10:44:06AM DISTRICT-WIDE NOTICE.
10:44:07AM WE DID PROVIDE THAT NOTICE ON DECEMBER 15th.
10:44:11AM WE SENT OUT ABOUT 588 LETTERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:44:16AM ASSOCIATION AND TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE
10:44:20AM DISTRICT.
10:44:20AM ON JANUARY 15th, WE HAD -- ACTUALLY, ON THE 14th, WE MET
10:44:24AM WITH THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:44:25AM THE 15th WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE HPC.
10:44:29AM THEY RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:44:31AM STILL INVOLVED WITHIN THE CHANGE THEY RECEIVED THE COMMENTS
10:44:37AM OF THE RELATIVE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD.
10:44:40AM IN THIS CASE, IT IS THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMISSION.
10:44:43AM I HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 5th.
10:44:45AM AND THEN THE NEXT HPC MEETING THAT IT COULD BE BROUGHT UP
10:44:49AM FOR A POTENTIAL CHANGE TO THE GUIDELINES WOULD BE
10:44:51AM MARCH 12th.
10:44:52AM SO AT THIS POINT, THE FENCE IS STILL IN PLACE.
10:44:57AM WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THE REVISION PROCESS TO
10:45:00AM BRING YOU BACK A RECOMMENDATION BY THE HPC WITH REGARDS TO
10:45:05AM ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THIS SEGMENT OF THE DESIGN
10:45:09AM GUIDELINES.
10:45:09AM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:45:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:45:14AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US IN TERMS OF TODAY?
10:45:18AM BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
10:45:22AM PROCESS.
10:45:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ALONG THE SAME LINES, IF WE DECIDE TO GO
10:45:32AM FORWARD WITH THE HEARING, IT GETS DENIED AND THEN WE CHANGE
10:45:35AM OUR RULES, WILL THEY BE ALLOWED TO COME BACK TO REAPPLY
10:45:39AM BASED ON THE CHANGED RULES IMMEDIATELY?
10:45:41AM FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
10:45:45AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: IF THE GUIDELINES ARE CHANGED TO
10:45:47AM ELIMINATE THAT?
10:45:48AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF THE GUIDELINES CHANGE IN A WAY THAT THEY
10:45:51AM FEEL THEY HAVE A BETTER CASE TO PRESENT AFTER THE FACT, HOW
10:45:55AM QUICKLY CAN THEY COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO APPLY?
10:45:57AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: WELL, TYPICALLY, IF THERE WERE A CHANGE
10:46:00AM TO HOW THE STAFF EVALUATED THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN
10:46:03AM ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, AND THEY COULD COME BACK REALLY AT
10:46:06AM ANY TIME THEY WANTED TO APPLY FOR THAT.
10:46:11AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. COHEN, FOLLOWING THE SAME PATH YOU AND I
10:46:14AM ARE THINKING ABOUT, DO WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS OR NOT GO
10:46:17AM FORWARD WITH IT BASED ON THAT ANSWER?
10:46:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: THE OTHER THING, TO MR. SUAREZ'S POINT, WOULD
10:46:22AM IT BE TORN DOWN IN THE INTERIM?
10:46:23AM WE NEED SOME --
10:46:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WOULD IT BE WISE FOR US TO WAIT UNTIL THIS
10:46:33AM WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THEN WE MAKE THE
10:46:37AM DECISION?
10:46:37AM BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
10:46:42AM >> ROBIN, LEGAL.
10:46:44AM I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION LEFT TO THE PETITIONERS AND
10:46:46AM THEIR COUNCIL.
10:46:47AM MR. GRANDOFF WANTS TO SPEAK.
10:46:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:46:52AM PETITIONER.
10:46:53AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
10:46:56AM COUNCIL AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF, ADDRESS SUITE
10:47:01AM 3700, BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
10:47:03AM I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING REVEREND LEROY CHATMAN
10:47:08AM AND GLORIA CHATMAN.
10:47:09AM PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
10:47:12AM TO REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION, THE COUNCIL, WE'RE LEANING
10:47:16AM TOWARDS A CONTINUANCE JUST TO SET YOU AT EASE.
10:47:22AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS MATTER CAME TO A VOTE IN MAY,
10:47:27AM MAY 3rd OF '18, AND THERE WAS A 3-2 DECISION AT THAT TIME
10:47:31AM SO WE WERE CARRIED OVER BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT FOUR VOTES.
10:47:36AM AND FOR YOUR MEMORY, CAPIN, MIRANDA, AND COUNCILMAN VIERA
10:47:41AM WERE IN FAVOR OF OVERTURNING.
10:47:43AM MR. COHEN, MR. SUAREZ WERE VOTING AGAINST OVERTURNING THE
10:47:47AM ARC.
10:47:48AM MR. REDDICK -- CHAIRMAN REDDICK AND MR. MANISCALCO WERE
10:47:52AM ABSENT.
10:47:53AM AT THAT POINT, THIS PROCESS BEGAN OF LOOKING AT THE CODE AND
10:47:58AM NOTIFYING THE ENTIRE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:48:02AM AND THAT PROCESS HAS CONTINUED TO GO ON.
10:48:05AM THE FENCE REMAINS.
10:48:09AM IN MY OPINION, THE FENCE CONTINUES TO REMAIN PENDING OUR
10:48:13AM APPEAL.
10:48:14AM THERE ARE NO FINES ACCRUING.
10:48:19AM I THINK IF THE PROCESS COULD BE SOMEWHAT SPED UP A LITTLE
10:48:23AM BIT, WE'RE WILLING TO WAIT.
10:48:25AM I SUGGEST PROBABLY A SIX-MONTH CONTINUANCE.
10:48:28AM I CAN CLEARLY FORESEE THIS PROCESS GOING ON LONGER INTO THE
10:48:32AM SUMMER MONTHS.
10:48:34AM AND PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA,
10:48:36AM ET CETERA.
10:48:36AM MY CLIENT SIMPLY WANTS SOME PEACE OF MIND, BUT IF IT'S THE
10:48:43AM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO POSTPONE LONGER, THEY ARE FINE WITH
10:48:46AM THAT.
10:48:46AM BUT IT'S AN INDICATION OF HOW THESE -- A SMALL THING REALLY
10:48:50AM GETS DRAGGED OUT NEARLY TWO YEARS NOW.
10:48:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
10:48:56AM YOU WOULDN'T PREFER THAT THIS BE RESOLVED BEFORE MAY 1st?
10:49:03AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE RESOLVED BEFORE
10:49:06AM MAY 1st, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:49:08AM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GET AN AMENDMENT DONE AND REVIEWED BY
10:49:10AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ARC AND ADOPTED AND IN
10:49:14AM PLACE, AND THEN I THINK THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AS
10:49:17AM WHATEVER THAT AMENDMENT IS, HOW DOES IT AFFECT MY CLIENT'S
10:49:21AM VESTED RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE APPEAL THAT'S PENDING.
10:49:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YEAH, THE REASON I SAID THAT, BECAUSE
10:49:28AM YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK AT THE BEGINNING WITH A NEW COUNCIL.
10:49:33AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: RIGHT.
10:49:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THIS WHOLE PROCESS GOT TO BE EXPLAINED ALL
10:49:36AM OVER AGAIN WITH THE NEW COUNCIL.
10:49:38AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
10:49:39AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:49:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND THAT'S THE REASON -- I MEAN, IT MIGHT
10:49:44AM BE GOING ON FOR ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE THEY GOT TO BE BROUGHT
10:49:47AM UP TO DATE.
10:49:49AM THEY GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.
10:49:50AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: RIGHT.
10:49:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS
10:49:53AM PARTICULAR CASE.
10:49:54AM SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID MAY 1st BECAUSE WE'LL BE
10:49:58AM COMING OFF OF HERE ON MAY 1st.
10:50:00AM AND IF THIS CAN BE EXPEDITED OR GET RESOLVED, I PREFER THAT
10:50:07AM THIS COUNCIL MAKE THAT DECISION THAN TO HAVE A NEW COUNCIL
10:50:12AM COME IN AND YOU HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.
10:50:13AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I'M READY TO GO THIS MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
10:50:16AM IF THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.
10:50:17AM YOU'RE THE CHAIRMAN.
10:50:20AM WELL, I NEED SOME IDEA OF WHERE THE CONTINUANCE WOULD FALL?
10:50:30AM IS IT JUNE, JULY?
10:50:35AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE HAVE 95 DAYS LEFT HERE.
10:50:37AM NOT THAT I'M COUNTING.
10:50:40AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:50:44AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: 93.
10:50:45AM LET ME TALK TO THE CHAPLAIN.
10:50:51AM THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD.
10:51:54AM THIS MORNING.
10:51:56AM DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN I'LL PRESENT
10:52:02AM THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA?
10:52:06AM >> ROBIN HORTON SILVERMAN, LEGAL.
10:52:09AM I WANTED TO BRIEFLY SPEAK ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF THIS.
10:52:11AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONFERRING IN THE BACK ABOUT.
10:52:13AM DENNIS AND CITY STAFF REVIEWED 27-264 SUBSECTION B.
10:52:18AM WE THINK IT COULD BE FEASIBLE TO COMPLETE BEFORE THE
10:52:21AM MAY 1st TIMELINE.
10:52:23AM NO GUARANTEES.
10:52:24AM BECAUSE IT'S GOING BEFORE THE ARC ON MARCH 4 AND HPC WILL BE
10:52:29AM CONSIDERING ANY RECOMMENDATION BY THE ARC ON MARCH 12th,
10:52:32AM THAT WE COULD FEASIBLY GET SOMETHING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL END
10:52:39AM OF MARCH, EARLY APRIL.
10:52:39AM SO I JUST WANTED TO LET THE PETITIONERS KNOW THAT, IF WE
10:52:40AM WANTED TO CONTINUE NOT SIX MONTHS UNTIL THEN OR THEY ARE
10:52:42AM MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO FORWARD TODAY.
10:52:46AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOW WE CAN GET IT DONE BY MARCH.
10:52:49AM SO FAR IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.
10:52:50AM FROM THE BEGINNING, THESE PEOPLE, AND THEIR NEIGHBOR, I
10:53:03AM WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WHAT
10:53:06AM HAS BEEN DONE TO THESE PEOPLE -- WE SAW ON THE PHOTOS FENCES
10:53:13AM THAT WERE SIX FOOT -- WE SAW THEM DOWN THE STREET, AND THEY
10:53:17AM WERE NOT -- HAVE THEY BEEN TAKEN DOWN?
10:53:20AM NO.
10:53:20AM I'M READY TO VOTE EXACTLY THE WAY I VOTED THE FIRST TIME.
10:53:25AM THAT'S MY STATEMENT.
10:53:31AM I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
10:53:33AM >> OKAY.
10:53:34AM I JUST WANTED TO LET THE PETITIONER KNOW THAT.
10:53:36AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: MAY I PROCEED?
10:53:37AM OKAY.
10:53:44AM I'LL START OUT WITH A PICTURE.
10:53:53AM I WAS ON THE PROPERTY TUESDAY.
10:53:55AM I'M LOOKING BACK.
10:53:57AM HERE IS THE CHATMAN'S FENCE THAT IS AT ISSUE.
10:54:01AM I'LL IMMEDIATELY POINT OUT THERE IS A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE
10:54:06AM STREET THAT HAS AN ILLEGAL FENCE.
10:54:08AM GOING TO MS. CAPIN'S STATEMENT, THEY ARE ALL OVER THE
10:54:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:54:11AM NOW, AS TO THE CRITERIA, CHAPTER 27, CITYWIDE, YOU MAY HAVE
10:54:19AM A FENCE IN THE CORNER YARD.
10:54:21AM THIS IS A CORNER YARD.
10:54:22AM SIX FEET HIGH AS A MATTER OF RIGHT ALL OVER THE CITY.
10:54:26AM TAMPA HEIGHTS, DIFFERENT RULE BOOK.
10:54:28AM FOUR FEET HIGH.
10:54:30AM GENTRIFICATION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT YOU
10:54:38AM HAVE TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE FIRST AND THEN YOU COME
10:54:41AM IN AND IMPROVE THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE SCENERY OF THE
10:54:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:54:45AM THESE FOLKS HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY FROM
10:54:47AM INTRUSION AND FOR PEACE OF MIND.
10:54:51AM THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
10:54:54AM I'LL MENTION TO YOU, NUMBER ONE, ILLEGAL ACTIVITY HAS
10:54:58AM THREATENED THE CHATMANS' QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOME, A
10:55:02AM FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY RIGHT.
10:55:04AM CONDITION UNIQUE AND SINGULAR TO THE LOCATION OF THEIR HOME
10:55:07AM ON A SIDE STREET AT THE CORNER OF MORGAN AND GLADYS.
10:55:09AM THAT IS A UNIQUE LOCATION.
10:55:11AM THEIR HOME IS THEIR CASTLE.
10:55:14AM THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1999.
10:55:15AM NUMBER TWO, THE FENCE, SIX FEET ALONG GLADYS AVENUE DOES NOT
10:55:20AM INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS IN THE IMMEDIATE
10:55:23AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:55:24AM IN FACT, THEIR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET.
10:55:27AM IN FACT, IT PROMOTES THE SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:55:29AM IT'S THE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY.
10:55:32AM MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE READ ABOUT.
10:55:34AM YOU REPAIR THE BROKEN WINDOWS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE
10:55:37AM SAFETY, YOU HAVE THE IMPROVEMENT OF VALUES.
10:55:38AM YOU MAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE.
10:55:40AM YOU INSTALL FENCES THAT ARE REASONABLE.
10:55:42AM YOU IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU IMPROVE VALUES.
10:55:47AM NUMBER THREE, FENCE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE USE OF THE
10:55:49AM PROPERTY AS THE CHATMAN'S HOME.
10:55:51AM IT IS BUILT WITH THE FRAMING INTERIOR AND THE BETTER PART
10:55:55AM EXPOSED TOWARD GLADYS AVENUE.
10:55:57AM THIS FENCE IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL IN THE REST OF THE CITY AND
10:56:00AM PRACTICE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE REST OF THE CITY.
10:56:04AM FOURTH AND FINAL, BY REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE
10:56:07AM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE WILL BE
10:56:09AM DONE BY ENSURING THE CHATMAN'S QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOME
10:56:14AM SO THEY CAN BE LEFT ALONE IN PEACE AND ENJOY THEIR HOME.
10:56:18AM I SIMPLY ASKED THAT YOU REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE
10:56:23AM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND APPROVE THE FENCE AS
10:56:25AM BUILT ALONG GLADYS AVENUE.
10:56:26AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:56:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
10:56:32AM THIS PICTURE YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, THIS IS A MAJOR
10:56:35AM THOROUGHFARE WHERE TRAFFIC, CARS ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON
10:56:39AM THIS PARTICULAR ROAD HERE?
10:56:41AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: GLADYS AVENUE, ZIGZAGS BACK TO FLORIDA
10:56:45AM AVENUE.
10:56:45AM THIS IS A CUT-THRU BETWEEN FLORIDA AVENUE AND CENTRAL.
10:56:48AM COMING STRAIGHT ACROSS.
10:56:51AM AGAIN, I'M LOOKING BACK, AND FRANKLY HERE'S ANOTHER HOME,
10:56:58AM FURTHER DOWN, ANOTHER FENCE THAT'S SIX FEET HIGH.
10:57:01AM HERE IS THIS NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE BEHIND THE CHATMANS,
10:57:05AM THE CHATMAN HOME, THE HOME ACROSS THE STREET.
10:57:08AM HERE IS A BETTER PICTURE.
10:57:09AM THIS HOME IS ON THE CORNER OF MORGAN, CORNER OF GLADYS AND I
10:57:14AM BELIEVE CENTRAL.
10:57:15AM THAT'S THE REAR YARD, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALONG GLADYS
10:57:20AM AVENUE.
10:57:22AM AND THEN HERE'S A CLOSER PHOTOGRAPH.
10:57:25AM I TOOK THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ON MONDAY MORNING.
10:57:31AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:57:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:57:35AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:57:36AM ALL RIGHT.
10:57:41AM ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 44?
10:57:45AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
10:57:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:58:00AM MY NAME IS JOHN FOSTER, 308 EAST GLADYS STREET.
10:58:05AM I BELIEVE I'M REQUIRED -- [TRAILS OFF]
10:58:08AM [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
10:58:11AM I'M GOING TO SKIP THE FIRST PART BECAUSE MR. FERNANDEZ
10:58:17AM CLARIFIED THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION --
10:58:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
10:58:22AM STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
10:58:24AM >> IT WAS JOHN FOSTER, 308 EAST GLADYS STREET.
10:58:27AM THE SHOT IN QUESTION IS THE CHATMAN HOUSE.
10:58:34AM THIS IS THE FENCE IN CONTENTION.
10:58:35AM YOU CAN PUT THE FENCE TO THE BACKYARD, SECURING HIS GARAGE,
10:58:39AM WHICH IS WHERE THE CRIMINALITY HAS OCCURRED.
10:58:41AM AND THAT WOULD SECURE HIS GARAGE.
10:58:45AM ALL PROBLEMS HE'S HAD THERE COME FROM THE GARAGE.
10:58:48AM MS. CAPIN, TO YOUR POINT, AND YOU MENTIONED THIS, THIS WAS
10:58:58AM ON THE SEPTEMBER 20th MEETING, THAT -- THEREFORE, ONE
10:59:04AM PERSON WAS BROUGHT UP FOR THEIR FENCE WHEN WE DISCOVERED
10:59:07AM ACROSS THE STREET NEXT DOOR, THEIR FENCE IS EXACTLY THE
10:59:09AM SAME.
10:59:10AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE JOHN GOT HIS PHOTOS, AND IF HE TOOK THEM
10:59:15AM ON MONDAY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM, BECAUSE WHEN THE BEDORES FOUND
10:59:21AM OUT THAT THEIR FENCE WAS IN VIOLATION, THEY REMOVED THE
10:59:23AM FENCE AND PUT IT TO THE BACK.
10:59:25AM IF YOU'RE SAYING THEY ARE STILL GOING UP ON THE SIDE, THE
10:59:29AM BEDORES WHEN THEY WERE NOTIFIED OF THE VIOLATION MOVED THE
10:59:33AM FENCE BACK.
10:59:34AM SO THE ARGUMENT IS RATHER SPECIOUS THAT THERE'S A FENCE
10:59:37AM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
10:59:38AM OUT OF THE 588, I BELIEVE DENNIS MENTIONED, THERE'S ONLY A
10:59:47AM HANDFUL OF VIOLATIONS HERE OF THIS FENCE.
10:59:51AM LESS THAN A DOZEN.
10:59:53AM SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE WE CHANGING THIS LAW FOR ONE
10:59:56AM PERSON WHEN YOU'RE GETTING MISINFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY.
11:00:01AM AND WHY DON'T -- WHAT I'D LIKE TO URGE YOU TO DO IS WAIT FOR
11:00:05AM THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ARC AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
11:00:07AM COMMITTEE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION.
11:00:09AM I KNOW YOU DECIDED TO GO AHEAD, BUT I THINK YOU COULD SEE
11:00:13AM RIGHT HERE THAT THE ARGUMENT IS SPECIOUS.
11:00:14AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:00:19AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:00:20AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
11:00:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
11:00:24AM TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT FENCE DOING TO YOU?
11:00:30AM >> IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ME, CATTY-CORNER.
11:00:32AM I'M 308 EAST GLADYS.
11:00:34AM I'M ONE -- THAT'S THE BEDORES HOME.
11:00:40AM THAT'S MY HOME.
11:00:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE FENCE THAT WE SAW, THE WHITE ONE THAT
11:00:44AM WAS ACROSS THE STREET, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO DO ANYTHING
11:00:50AM TO CHANGE THAT FENCE FROM BEING PASSED THE REGULATION?
11:00:56AM >> I SPOKE TO MR. CHATMAN ABOUT IT.
11:00:57AM I TOLD HIM I WOULD FIGHT HIM ON IT WHEN HE PUT IT UP.
11:01:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU HAVEN'T RAISED THE KIND OF FUSS YOU'RE
11:01:05AM RAISING HERE ABOUT THIS ONE CHATMAN FENCE.
11:01:08AM >> I WAS THE ONE THAT TOLD THE BEDORES THEY WERE IN
11:01:10AM VIOLATION OF THE FENCE AND THEY IMMEDIATELY MOVED IT BACK.
11:01:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, A FENCE DOES NOT
11:01:16AM TALK.
11:01:16AM >> I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
11:01:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I DON'T SEE HOW THE FENCE CAN HAMPER YOUR
11:01:23AM LIVING CONDITION OR ANYTHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN A
11:01:24AM FENCE DOESN'T TALK.
11:01:26AM >> IT'S THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:01:29AM WE ALL BOUGHT INTO THIS AREA, WE KNEW WHAT THE REGULATIONS
11:01:32AM WERE.
11:01:33AM I ADHERE TO IT.
11:01:34AM MY FENCE IS ON AN ALLEY, SIX FOOT TO THE BACK, NEXT TO THE
11:01:39AM BEDORES, WHICH IS THERE.
11:01:44AM THE FENCE IS OVER HERE ON THEIRS.
11:01:47AM RIBBON DRIVE INTO THE GARAGE.
11:01:49AM BUT WHEN WE ALL BOUGHT IN HERE, IT'S QUALITY AND AESTHETIC
11:01:55AM OF THE LOOK.
11:01:56AM THE OPENNESS, THE SPACIOUSNESS.
11:01:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BUT YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE.
11:01:59AM SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SINGLE OUT -- MORE THAN ONE THAT HAS A
11:02:05AM SIX-FOOT FENCE.
11:02:06AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SINGLE OUT ONE, YOU SEEM TO ME THAT YOU
11:02:10AM WOULD LINE UP ALL OF THEM.
11:02:12AM >> YES, I TOTALLY AGREE.
11:02:13AM WHAT WE NEED IS STAFF TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY DO THE
11:02:16AM COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCE THESE.
11:02:18AM PEOPLE ARE JUST BUILDING THEM WILLY-NILLY.
11:02:20AM THERE IS NO PERMIT REQUIRED TO BUILD A FENCE.
11:02:25AM YOU DO HAVE TO APPLY TO THE ARC TO GET PERMISSION IF IT IS
11:02:30AM IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:02:31AM BASED ON MR. FERNANDEZ.
11:02:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN A
11:02:36AM NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THE PERSON IS NOT A MIDGET, THE PERSON
11:02:38AM CAN'T LIVE THERE.
11:02:39AM THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN CLIMB A SIX-FOOT TALL FENCE.
11:02:42AM THIS IS A FORM OF NOTHING BUT HARASSMENT TO ONE SINGLE
11:02:51AM FAMILY RESIDENCE.
11:02:53AM >> NO, SIR.
11:02:53AM IT'S A MAN WHO DIDN'T CONFORM TO THE RULES AND NOW HE'S
11:02:57AM COMING BACK --
11:02:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IF THERE WAS SUCH AN OUTRAGE, THIS CHAMBER
11:03:01AM WOULD BE PACKED.
11:03:04AM OKAY.
11:03:04AM IT'S NOT.
11:03:04AM >> I GO BACK TO THE BEDORES.
11:03:07AM THEY IMMEDIATELY MOVED IT.
11:03:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SIR, THE PETITIONER, PLEASE.
11:03:14AM >> AM I DONE?
11:03:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, WITH ME YOU ARE.
11:03:21AM >> LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:03:22AM I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY WANTED TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:03:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
11:03:30AM I WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG THEY HAVE LIVED IN THE HOUSE.
11:03:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HE NEED TO COME FORWARD.
11:03:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK YOU
11:03:46AM SHOULD FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:03:48AM BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER.
11:03:50AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE --
11:03:50AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HE'S PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I CAN ASK A
11:03:52AM QUESTION!
11:03:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET ME JUST FINISH.
11:03:56AM FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PROCESS.
11:03:58AM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE, A LAWYER OR ANYBODY ELSE TO
11:04:00AM COME BACK AND SAY WE WERE UNFAIR TO ANYONE BECAUSE WE WENT
11:04:03AM OUTSIDE OF THE PROCESS WE TYPICALLY FOLLOW.
11:04:04AM THAT IS THE ONLY THING I WAS MAKING SURE --
11:04:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN WILL HOLD HER QUESTION FOR --
11:04:24AM >> [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
11:04:45AM >> MR. CHATMAN MAY NEED TO GO AHEAD BECAUSE TECHNICAL
11:04:49AM ASSISTANCE --
11:04:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO, NO, NO --
11:04:51AM >> WELL, THEN TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME
11:04:54AM BECAUSE I'M DOING WHAT THEY TOLD ME TO DO.
11:04:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU JUST GAVE US A HANDOUT, CORRECT?
11:04:59AM >> SIR?
11:05:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU GAVE A HANDOUT.
11:05:01AM >> I GAVE ONE SET OF PHOTOGRAPHS FOR THE RECORD.
11:05:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO SHOW,
11:05:05AM THE SAME PHOTOGRAPHS?
11:05:06AM >> I HAVE A PowerPoint, YES, SIR.
11:05:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ARE THEY THE SAME WHAT YOU PASSED OUT?
11:05:12AM >> I GAVE ONE COPY FOR THE RECORD.
11:05:14AM I DON'T HAVE COPIES FOR EVERYBODY ON THE PANEL.
11:05:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, THE QUESTION OF THE CHAIRMAN, IS
11:05:20AM WHAT YOU HANDED FOR THE RECORD IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S GOING TO
11:05:23AM BE ON THE SCREEN.
11:05:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:05:24AM WE CAN REVIEW THAT.
11:05:26AM WE CAN REVIEW THE PHOTO.
11:05:28AM >> I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
11:05:29AM COULD YOU LOAD IT UP?
11:05:52AM >> COULD WE PLEASE GO BACK TO THREE MINUTES?
11:06:20AM THANK YOU.
11:06:21AM MARY McCAHON, 2812 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
11:06:25AM THIS APPEAL HAS MANY CONFLATED ISSUES AND MANY
11:06:29AM MISCONCEPTIONS LIKE THAT THE TAMPA HEIGHTS GUIDELINES NEED
11:06:32AM TO BE CHANGED OR THAT AN IDENTICAL FENCE EXISTS AT THE HOUSE
11:06:38AM ACROSS THE STREET.
11:06:38AM THE RIGHT PICTURE SHOWS THAT'S NOT SO, AND IT HASN'T BEEN
11:06:41AM THERE FOR OVER A YEAR.
11:06:43AM THE HOUSE ON THE LEFT IS THE CHATMAN'S PROPERTY, LOOKING
11:06:47AM LIKE IT DID SINCE AT LEAST 2006, UNTIL THE SUMMER OF 2017,
11:06:53AM BLENDING WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS OPEN SIGHT LINES
11:06:57AM AND MANY LOW PICKET FENCES.
11:07:00AM THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE REALLY TWO DOMINANT ISSUES.
11:07:03AM FIRST IS THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY ON THE PART OF THE CITY FOR
11:07:06AM ENFORCING COMPLIANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES.
11:07:08AM SECOND, CRIME AND SAFETY CLAIMS BY ONE PROPERTY OWNER.
11:07:11AM THE APPLICANT STATED REASON FOR THE HIGH FENCE HAS BEEN TO
11:07:15AM PROTECT AND SECURE HIS PROPERTY FROM REPEATED THEFTS, DRUG
11:07:19AM DEALERS, ET CETERA.
11:07:20AM POLICE REPORTS DOCUMENT THAT THERE WERE TWO BREAK-INS TO THE
11:07:23AM DETACHED GARAGE ABOUT TWO MONTHS APART IN THE FALL OF 2015.
11:07:28AM THE SAME DIRT BIKE WAS TAKEN BOTH TIMES.
11:07:31AM THAT'S THE SUM OF THE REPORTED CRIME HERE.
11:07:34AM YET IT WAS ALMOST TWO YEARS LATER AFTER THE FIRST BREAK-IN
11:07:38AM BEFORE THE HIGH FENCE WAS PLACED.
11:07:40AM MR. CHATMAN'S CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY ARE NOT SPECIAL OR
11:07:45AM PARTICULAR TO HIM.
11:07:46AM ALL REASONABLE BUILDING OWNERS STRIVE TO SECURE THEIR
11:07:49AM PROPERTY.
11:07:50AM WHERE IS THE SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPELLING EVIDENCE SUPPORTING
11:07:54AM THE NEED FOR A HIGH FENCE AT THIS LOCATION?
11:07:56AM THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE 400 PLUS BUILDINGS IN THE DISTRICTS
11:08:00AM DO NOT RELY ON SIX-FOOT HIGH FENCES FOR SECURITY.
11:08:03AM INSTEAD, WE USE AN UNOBTRUSIVE FEATURE.
11:08:08AM COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF WAYS TO
11:08:11AM SECURE AND PROTECT THIS PROPERTY.
11:08:12AM WHILE COMPLYING WITH THE GUIDELINES, AS MR. FOSTER SAID,
11:08:17AM MOVING THE FENCE BACK, PUTTING IN GOOD GATES, ALL IN
11:08:21AM COMPLIANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES.
11:08:22AM BUT THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS LACK OF ENFORCEMENT ON BRINGING
11:08:30AM CORNER FENCES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES.
11:08:33AM HERE ARE MORE CONSPICUOUS VIOLATIONS.
11:08:37AM NOTE THAT THEY ARE RECENT AND THEY HAVE PROLIFERATED LARGELY
11:08:41AM BECAUSE FEW KNOW THAT IT'S NOT IN CONFORMANCE TO BUILD A
11:08:44AM HIGH FENCE.
11:08:45AM SINCE THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT, OWNERS THINK IT'S OKAY TO
11:08:48AM BUILD AND BUILD THEY DO.
11:08:49AM EVEN MR. CHATMAN IN HIS APPEAL STATED THAT HE WANTS HIS
11:08:53AM FENCE IN LIGHT OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE ALL OVER THE AREA.
11:08:56AM IT APPEARS THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 10 TO 12 VIOLATING OPAQUE
11:09:01AM FENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN
11:09:04AM APPROVED BY ARC.
11:09:05AM BUT HERE'S YOUR ANSWER.
11:09:07AM CONSISTENTLY ENFORCEMENT AND APPLYING THE GUIDELINES IS
11:09:12AM WHAT'S BROKEN AND WHAT NEEDS MODIFICATIONS, NOT THE
11:09:14AM GUIDELINES.
11:09:15AM HERE WE HAVE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHERE FINDING OUT THAT YOU
11:09:18AM AREN'T IN COMPLIANCE HAS RESULTED IN FENCES THAT MEET THE
11:09:23AM GUIDELINES.
11:09:23AM THIS SHOULD BE OUR OBJECTIVE, ENFORCE THE GUIDELINES AND
11:09:27AM COMPLIANCE WILL HAPPEN.
11:09:28AM THE REASON HISTORIC DISTRICTS HAVE RULES IS BECAUSE THE
11:09:32AM CHARACTER NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED.
11:09:33AM THANK YOU.
11:09:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:09:34AM ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:09:39AM 44?
11:09:39AM PETITIONER?
11:09:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:09:47AM MY NAME IS REVEREND LEROY CHATMAN.
11:09:50AM I LIVE AT 2723 NORTH MORGAN STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:09:54AM 33602.
11:09:55AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING, BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND STILL A LONG
11:10:01AM PROCESS.
11:10:01AM THE LORD ALLOWED ME TO BUILD THAT HOUSE THERE IN '99.
11:10:06AM I WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE '99.
11:10:09AM I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN THAT GREW UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:10:13AM THREE OF WHICH WENT OFF TO COLLEGE, GOT THEIR DEGREES, GOT
11:10:17AM THEIR CAREERS, MY OLDEST SON, HE BOUGHT A HOUSE ON THE SAME
11:10:22AM STREET THAT I LIVE ON BUT ONLY FARTHER DOWN.
11:10:25AM MY OLDEST DAUGHTER, SHE GOT HER EDUCATION.
11:10:27AM SHE BOUGHT A HOUSE ON JEFFERSON BUT FURTHER DOWN FROM ME BUT
11:10:31AM IN THE SAME PROXIMITY.
11:10:33AM OKAY, NOW, THEY GREW UP ON PARK ACROSS COLUMBUS DRIVE.
11:10:38AM ALL RIGHT.
11:10:38AM I HAVE FOUR GRANDCHILDREN THAT ARE STILL GROWING UP IN THAT
11:10:42AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:10:42AM TWO OF THEM IN COLLEGE RIGHT NOW.
11:10:44AM ONE IS ON HER WAY TO COLLEGE.
11:10:46AM SIX-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON, HE KNOWS THAT ONE DAY HE'S GOING TO
11:10:51AM GO TO COLLEGE HOPEFULLY.
11:10:53AM I'M HERE BECAUSE I DID HAVE A BREAK-IN TWO TIMES IN MY
11:10:58AM GARAGE WHEN WE HAD THE SHORT FENCE.
11:11:01AM NOW THAT FENCE, WHAT THEY WOULD DO, THEY COULDN'T GET INTO
11:11:04AM MY GARAGE DOOR, BUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO, THEY WOULD GO OVER
11:11:07AM THE FENCE, GO IN AND BREAK INTO THE BACK DOOR OF THE GARAGE,
11:11:13AM STEAL THE MERCHANDISE, COME OUT THROUGH THE GATE.
11:11:15AM THAT'S WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
11:11:16AM I PUT A MAJOR LOCK THERE, STARTED LOCKING THE DOOR THE SAME
11:11:20AM WAY FROM THE INSIDE, PUT A FENCE AROUND IT, THAT STOPPED
11:11:23AM THAT.
11:11:23AM NOW WE ALL KNOW TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:11:27AM IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND, YOU KNOW TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:11:29AM YEARS AGO, TAMPA HEIGHTS WAS A ROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:11:33AM NOBODY SEEMED TO -- BUT IF IT WAS THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN
11:11:38AM TAMPA, IT WAS STILL A HISTORICAL PARCEL THEN YOU'RE SAYING
11:11:42AM IT IS NOW.
11:11:43AM NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GROWN IN VALUE.
11:11:47AM WELL, WE ARE NOT THERE AS TO SAY WE DON'T NEED LOCKS
11:11:52AM ANYMORE.
11:11:52AM I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
11:11:55AM THE LAW STATES THAT I COULD HAVE PUT FENCE TO THE CORNER OF
11:12:00AM MY HOUSE.
11:12:00AM THAT'S WHAT I DID.
11:12:01AM GUIDELINES, EVEN THOUGH THE WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN SPOKEN HERE
11:12:05AM TODAY, I DON'T COME BEFORE YOU AS A LAWYER OR EXPERT ON
11:12:09AM FENCES, EXPERT ON GUIDELINES, NONE OF THAT, BUT WHAT I DO
11:12:13AM KNOW IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG.
11:12:17AM THAT'S WHAT I DO KNOW.
11:12:18AM AND I DID NOTHING WRONG.
11:12:21AM I PUT A FENCE UP.
11:12:22AM THAT'S WHAT I DID.
11:12:23AM NOW, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T EVEN --
11:12:31AM BUT THEY HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:12:33AM BUT NO ONE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT
11:12:36AM WHAT IS BEING SAID.
11:12:38AM OR NO ONE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN TAKEN IN
11:12:41AM CONSIDERATION AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:12:44AM MY NEIGHBOR THAT SPOKE AND HAD THE PETITION THAT HE
11:12:47AM PRESENTED, JOHN, HE HAS A FENCE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO MINE
11:12:53AM AROUND HIS HOUSE, BUT IS HE IN VIOLATION?
11:12:56AM AND SINCE MY HOUSE IS BUILT DIFFERENT FROM HIS HOUSE, MY
11:13:01AM BACK DOOR TO MY PROPERTY IS ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, ON
11:13:04AM THE NORTH SIDE.
11:13:06AM SO IF I DID THAT, I WOULD COME RIGHT OUT INTO THE STREET, MY
11:13:09AM WIFE AND EVERYONE ELSE.
11:13:10AM CHILDREN, BUILT A FENCE THERE TO KEEP OUR STUFF SAFE.
11:13:16AM WE DIDN'T COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO MAKE MONEY
11:13:18AM AND LEAVE.
11:13:19AM WE CAME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO RAISE A FAMILY AND BE
11:13:23AM PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.
11:13:31AM WHAT AM I DOING?
11:13:32AM WHO ARE WE HURTING?
11:13:33AM WHAT IS THE FENCE DOING TO YOU?
11:13:35AM I'VE WATCHED MY NEIGHBOR, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO BRING THIS,
11:13:40AM BUT THIS IS A FACT.
11:13:41AM I WATCHED MY NEIGHBOR SIT NIGHT AFTER NIGHT, DAY AFTER DAY
11:13:45AM ON HIS PORCH AND JUST LITERALLY CALL THE POLICE ON ANYBODY
11:13:48AM HE FEEL LIKE.
11:13:49AM WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LITERALLY HURLED DOG FECES AFTER MY
11:13:59AM SON AND HIS GIRLFRIEND RIDING A MOPED OR A FOUR-WHEELER AND
11:14:06AM ALMOST CAUSED THEM TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT.
11:14:07AM HE TURNED AROUND AND -- SHE HURLED A DEADLY MISSILE.
11:14:16AM WHEN I WENT TO SPEAK TO HER, HAVE HER VOICE ON RECORDING.
11:14:21AM WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
11:14:22AM YOU LIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN ON CENTRAL.
11:14:24AM I LIVE UP HERE.
11:14:25AM YOU HAVE A FENCE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU BEEN THERE
11:14:28AM SINCE I GOT THERE.
11:14:30AM WHY AREN'T YOU TELLING THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE --
11:14:36AM WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR GATE.
11:14:37AM WHEN YOU COME DOWN TO MY CORNER WHERE I'M STANDING AT, NOT
11:14:40AM MY CORNER BUT WHERE I LIVE AT.
11:14:42AM YOU SAY YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE RIDING THROUGH A TUNNEL.
11:14:45AM ALL THESE WORDS ARE BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY HAVE NO -- THEY ARE
11:14:50AM WRONG.
11:14:50AM THEY ARE WRONG, THEY ARE WRONG.
11:14:52AM I WOULD BE STRESSED OUT ABOUT THE FENCE.
11:14:55AM THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
11:14:58AM PART OF A CIVIC ASSOCIATION DUTY IS TO ENHANCE THE
11:15:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:15:03AM BUT THE MAJOR PART OF A CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE WORD CIVICS,
11:15:08AM GOOGLE IT, LOOK IT UP.
11:15:09AM I STUDIED -- I DIDN'T STUDY -- GOING TO SCHOOL AS A KID, WE
11:15:13AM HAD CIVICS.
11:15:15AM YOU LEARNING ABOUT THINGS YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT YOU DON'T.
11:15:18AM IN THE ENHANCEMENT OF THINGS.
11:15:20AM ALL RIGHT.
11:15:21AM THE FIRST THING IS TO PRESERVE THE RIGHT OF A CITIZEN OR
11:15:27AM CIVILIZATION -- THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE KEY COMPONENT IN THE
11:15:32AM MEANING OF CIVICS.
11:15:33AM AND THEN THE SECOND COMPONENT IS TO ENHANCE AS YOUR CIVIC
11:15:38AM DUTY, TO ENHANCE AND TO MAKE BETTER YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
11:15:43AM NOW, THAT BEING TRUE AND YOUR PART OF A CIVICS ASSOCIATION,
11:15:49AM YOUR JOB SHOULD BE FIGHTING --
11:15:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. CHATMAN, YOU NEED TO TALK TO US.
11:15:56AM >> YOUR JOB IS FIGHTING FOR ME TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE MY
11:16:00AM CIVIL RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF THIS CIVILIZATION AND THE CITY
11:16:06AM OF TAMPA.
11:16:08AM AND A PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN AT THAT.
11:16:09AM FORGIVE ME IF I'M A LITTLE EMOTIONAL, BUT I'VE HAD A LONG,
11:16:16AM HARD, LONELY ROAD HERE.
11:16:19AM I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT AT MY WIT'S END.
11:16:25AM I THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.
11:16:26AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
11:16:31AM >> THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
11:16:33AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU REVERSE THE ARC'S DECISION.
11:16:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HE BUILT THE HOUSE IN 1999?
11:16:40AM >> YES.
11:16:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?
11:16:42AM OKAY.
11:16:43AM THANK YOU.
11:16:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:16:47AM WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:16:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK MR. FERNANDEZ SOME QUESTIONS?
11:16:53AM MR. FERNANDEZ, ON THESE PHOTOS WE RECEIVED AND THE DISTRICT,
11:17:03AM HAVE YOU TOURED THE DISTRICT?
11:17:04AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I HAVE.
11:17:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND DO YOU SEE ILLEGAL FENCES?
11:17:08AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: WE --
11:17:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT TRYING TO -- BUT YOU'RE THE ONLY
11:17:12AM THING I CAN SEE HERE THAT MAY HAVE SOME CLARITY ON MY
11:17:15AM FEELINGS.
11:17:16AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: WE'VE LOOKED AT THE VIOLATIONS.
11:17:20AM ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CIVICS ASSOCIATION GAVE US A LIST
11:17:24AM OF WHAT THEY PERCEIVED WERE VIOLATIONS.
11:17:26AM WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THOSE.
11:17:27AM OUT OF THE PROPERTIES, I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE 40 PROPERTIES
11:17:31AM THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US, WE IDENTIFIED NINE VIOLATIONS,
11:17:35AM FIVE OF WHICH ARE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
11:17:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE THEY ACTIVELY BEING --
11:17:42AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: RIGHT.
11:17:43AM FIVE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PUT INTO VIOLATION.
11:17:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE SAYING THAT WE ARE REACTIVE INSTEAD
11:17:50AM OF PROACTIVE BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER LOOKED AT BEFORE?
11:17:54AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY TRY TO BE
11:17:58AM PROACTIVE.
11:17:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
11:18:01AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: WHAT IT IS, SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS ARE
11:18:03AM PRETTY SUBTLE, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES TO
11:18:06AM BE ABLE TO MONITOR AT THAT LEVEL.
11:18:09AM BUT CERTAINLY, WHEN WE GET, YOU KNOW, VIOLATIONS THAT ARE
11:18:12AM BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, IF WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY VISUALLY
11:18:18AM CONFIRMED THEM THROUGH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WE THEN
11:18:21AM PROCEED THROUGH A PROCESS.
11:18:22AM THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
11:18:24AM THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US THAT ESSENTIALLY, I
11:18:29AM BELIEVE, EXISTED EITHER PRIOR TO THE DISTRICT OR HAVE BEEN
11:18:33AM IN PLACE FOR SO LONG THAT WE CAN'T REALLY VALIDATE WHETHER
11:18:38AM THEY WERE PUT IN AFTER THE DISTRICT OR NOT.
11:18:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THEN, ARE WE ACTIVELY GOING TO SEEK
11:18:45AM THE SAME PROCESS ON THE -- ON THOSE THAT YOU IDENTIFIED THAT
11:18:49AM WERE IN VIOLATION?
11:18:50AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I MEAN, YES.
11:18:53AM FRANKLY, I WAS WANTING TO SEE EXACTLY HOW THIS PROCESS
11:18:55AM TURNED OUT, THE REVISION PROCESS TO THE HPC THAT'S IN THE
11:18:59AM HPC.
11:19:00AM BUT WE WOULD BE PURSUING CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS UNTIL
11:19:04AM THAT'S CHANGED IN THE GUIDELINES, IF IT WERE CHANGED IN THE
11:19:08AM GUIDELINES, WHICH --
11:19:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS AREA IS UNIQUE BECAUSE MOST HOUSES
11:19:12AM HAVE NICE PORCHES.
11:19:13AM YOU CAN SIT OUTSIDE.
11:19:14AM AND BACK FROM THE '60s AND '70s ON, THEY HAD A PORCH
11:19:18AM ONLY FOR A PARAKEET, NOT FOR HUMAN BEINGS TO SIT.
11:19:21AM THERE ARE NO PORCHES.
11:19:22AM WHAT I SEE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS THE SAME TYPE OF FENCING
11:19:27AM ALL AROUND THE BACKYARDS.
11:19:29AM YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING OVER FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE
11:19:32AM FORWARD OTHER THAN I THINK THREE OR FOUR FEET.
11:19:34AM AND I TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE CITY EVERY DAY.
11:19:39AM I LOOK, LOOK, LOOK.
11:19:40AM AND IT'S BECOMING MORE LIKE -- I DON'T HAVE A WORD FOR IT
11:19:45AM BECAUSE YOU SEE NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER.
11:19:49AM YOU SEE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER.
11:19:52AM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT JUST A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION
11:20:00AM ON WHAT A FENCE DOES.
11:20:01AM WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT IN TEXAS AND MEXICO YET.
11:20:04AM EVIDENTLY WE'RE GETTING THERE.
11:20:06AM TO ME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THEM
11:20:11AM ALL.
11:20:11AM IF NOT, YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ALL.
11:20:13AM BY YOUR TESTIMONY, YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS FILED THOSE
11:20:18AM PROPER DOCUMENTATION ON THOSE FIVE THAT YOU MENTIONED, AM I
11:20:21AM CORRECT?
11:20:22AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: CORRECT.
11:20:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:20:23AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I FEEL OBLIGED TO POINT OUT ONE POINT.
11:20:28AM I BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION DIDN'T
11:20:31AM REALIZE THAT THIS LARGER ISSUE WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN UP
11:20:34AM TODAY.
11:20:35AM IN OUR DISCUSSION, WITH THEM BEING ENGAGED, THEY HAVE BEEN
11:20:38AM TRACKING THE CODE PROCESS, WHICH IS GOING TO GO TO THE ARC
11:20:42AM ON MARCH THE 4th AND THEN THE HPC BACK ON MARCH THE
11:20:45AM 12th.
11:20:46AM I THINK IF THEY REALIZE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE
11:20:50AM MIGHT BE A LARGER PRESENCE.
11:20:51AM I FEEL OBLIGED BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INTERACTING WITH THEM QUITE
11:20:55AM A BIT.
11:20:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME RESPOND BY SAYING THIS IS NOT THE
11:20:57AM FIRST TIME THIS CAME UP, LARGE TURNOUT EITHER WAY.
11:21:01AM DON'T ADD ADDITIONAL -- TO THIS.
11:21:10AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:21:12AM ALL RIGHT.
11:21:15AM MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:21:21AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:21:23AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
11:21:25AM OPPOSED?
11:21:25AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:21:33AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE TO REVERSE THE DENIAL OF THE
11:21:36AM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
11:21:37AM I THINK THAT THE PETITIONER HAS PROVEN HARDSHIP.
11:21:49AM DO I NEED ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT?
11:22:01AM >> ROBIN HORTON-SILVERMAN, LEGAL.
11:22:06AM I WANT TO POINT OUT WITH HARDSHIP IT'S MORE OF A VARIANCE
11:22:08AM STANDARD.
11:22:09AM I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD.
11:22:11AM THE CRITERIA IS 27-115 UNDER THE CODE AND NOT A HARDSHIP
11:22:17AM CRITERIA FOR A VARIANCE.
11:22:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:22:19AM THANK YOU.
11:22:20AM I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMISSION DENIAL
11:22:23AM OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION ARC
11:22:27AM 17-330 BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION
11:22:31AM [NO ENCODER]
11:22:36AM [NO ENCODER]
11:23:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- HERE IT IS ONE.
11:23:05AM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE FIVE MORE COMING.
11:23:06AM I ADMIRE THE COURAGE OF LEROY AND GLORIA CHATMAN.
11:23:12AM I ADMIRE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE CHILDREN.
11:23:13AM I ADMIRE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN BUILDING THE HOUSE.
11:23:16AM I ADMIRE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE.
11:23:18AM BUT THERE IS A PART OF ME THAT TELLS ME THAT THE LAW SHOULD
11:23:22AM BE ENFORCED, AND EVIDENCE PROVEN TODAY THAT THE LAW IS GOING
11:23:25AM TO BE ENFORCED.
11:23:26AM THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY, MR. CHAIR.
11:23:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:23:31AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:23:31AM I WILL TELL YOU IT TOOK TWO YEARS AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
11:23:34AM DONE WHEN I FIRST MENTIONED IT, I SAID YOU NEED TO GO LOOK
11:23:37AM AT ALL THE FENCES.
11:23:39AM TWO YEARS LATER, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FENCES.
11:23:42AM NO.
11:23:44AM IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
11:23:45AM NOT FOR ME.
11:23:46AM I KEEP MY MOTION.
11:23:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:23:49AM GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
11:23:51AM SECONDED BY MR. VIERA.
11:23:53AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:23:54AM OPPOSED?
11:23:56AM >> NAY.
11:23:57AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH SUAREZ, COHEN AND
11:24:00AM MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
11:24:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE BETTER HAVE A VOICE VOTE.
11:24:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO.
11:24:19AM >>HARRY COHEN: NO.
11:24:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:24:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:24:23AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:24:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:24:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:24:30AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION FAILED WITH SUAREZ, COHEN,
11:24:33AM MANISCALCO, AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
11:24:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:24:37AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:24:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION WAS TO OVERTURN.
11:24:44AM THAT FAILED.
11:24:45AM THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION THAT HAS ACTION OF FOR.
11:24:49AM ANOTHER MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER.
11:24:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THE MOTION.
11:24:55AM I MOVE TO AFFIRM THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMISSION DENIAL
11:25:01AM OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION ARC
11:25:03AM 17-330 BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE
11:25:07AM PETITION MEETS THE CRITERIA FOUND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE
11:25:10AM SECTION 27-115, SUB-K AND SUB-L, SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH
11:25:16AM THE HARDSHIP THAT WAS PRESENTED BY APPLICANT.
11:25:20AM >> SECOND.
11:25:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:25:21AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:25:23AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:25:24AM FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
11:25:25AM MS. CAPIN.
11:25:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:25:29AM -- HE STOOD UP FOR ME.
11:25:33AM >> HARDSHIP IS NOT A CRITERIA.
11:25:34AM IT SHOULD BE UNDER 27-115K.
11:25:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THEY DON'T MEET THE STANDARDS IN ORDER TO PUT
11:25:41AM UP A SIX-FOOT FENCE.
11:25:44AM >> THAT'S FINE.
11:25:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:25:47AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:25:50AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
11:25:52AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:25:55AM OPPOSED?
11:25:55AM ROLL CALL.
11:26:02AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:26:03AM >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:26:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:26:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO.
11:26:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NO.
11:26:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:26:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:26:12AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK, CAPIN AND
11:26:15AM VIERA VOTING NO.
11:26:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO TO ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:26:19AM >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
11:26:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:26:27AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
11:26:28AM SO IS IT COMING BACK TO US BY MARCH?
11:26:31AM IS IT STILL COMING BACK TO US BY MARCH?
11:26:37AM >> THE HPC MEETS ON MARCH THE 12th.
11:26:40AM ANYTIME AFTER THAT, WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.
11:26:46AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO WE WANT TO SCHEDULE IT BACK NOW?
11:26:48AM I DO.
11:26:48AM I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR.
11:26:52AM YOU SAID MARCH 12?
11:26:54AM >> IS WHEN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETS.
11:27:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MARCH 21st IS OUR NEXT REGULAR
11:27:07AM MEETING.
11:27:08AM SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE REVIEW BOARD COME BACK TO US ON
11:27:15AM MARCH 21st AT OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
11:27:19AM >> DO YOU WANT A STAFF REPORT?
11:27:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
11:27:22AM >> A REPORT FROM MR. FERNANDEZ THEN?
11:27:25AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
11:27:26AM >> SECOND.
11:27:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:27:27AM GOT A MOTION BY MS. CAPIN.
11:27:29AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:27:30AM ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
11:27:32AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:27:33AM OPPOSED?
11:27:37AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
11:27:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NUMBER 45.
11:27:40AM >> HI.
11:27:40AM RACHEL PETERKIN WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:27:43AM I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 45, WHICH IS A PETITION FOR
11:27:45AM REVIEW OF HPC 2018-4, WHICH WAS DECIDED BY THE HISTORIC
11:27:51AM PRESERVATION COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 11th, 2018.
11:27:55AM I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THERE WAS A SLIGHT TYPO IN THE
11:27:58AM AGENDA.
11:27:59AM IT SAID "MANAGER" INSTEAD OF "COMMISSION."
11:28:02AM BUT THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THE NOTICE, SO WE CAN PROCEED WITH
11:28:05AM THE MATTER TODAY.
11:28:06AM I'VE GOT A PACKET THAT SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH SOME
11:28:11AM INFORMATION ON THIS MATTER, AGAIN, WHICH IS ITEM 45
11:28:14AM REGARDING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DENIAL OF THE
11:28:17AM PROPERTY OWNER'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE STATUS OF PROPERTY
11:28:20AM LOCATED AT 1215 EAST 12 AVENUE FROM CONTRIBUTING TO
11:28:26AM NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:28:27AM THE STANDARD OF REVIEW IS DE NOVO AS SET FORTH IN CITY OF
11:28:31AM TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-61.
11:28:35AM YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
11:28:37AM YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF SAMPLE MOTIONS TO EITHER AFFIRM,
11:28:40AM OVERTURN, OR REMAND THE HPC'S DECISION.
11:28:45AM THAT'S ON THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR PACKET.
11:28:47AM YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF SECTION 27-261I WHICH CONTAINS THE
11:28:53AM CRITERIA TO UTILIZE IN MAKING YOUR DECISION.
11:28:56AM THE CRITERIA REFERENCES THE NATIONAL REGISTER BULLETIN
11:28:59AM NUMBER 15, WHICH IS ALSO A PART OF YOUR PACKET.
11:29:03AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:05AM IN YOUR PACKET IS A RECOMMENDED PROCEDURE, WHICH HAS STAFF
11:29:09AM SPEAKING NEXT.
11:29:10AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ.
11:29:17AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:29:20AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND HISTORIC
11:29:21AM PRESERVATION MANAGER.
11:29:22AM ASSISTING ME IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS ELAINE LUND ALSO
11:29:27AM WITH MY OFFICE.
11:29:28AM JUST A BRIEF PHOTO-ESSAY.
11:29:30AM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE BASE OF THE ARROW ON
11:29:38AM 12th AVENUE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE YBOR CITY
11:29:44AM NATIONAL LANDMARK AND LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:29:46AM BLOWUP OF THAT AREA.
11:29:49AM IN THE GREEN BOX, NOTICE THAT IS A SHADED STRUCTURE, WHICH
11:29:55AM MEANS IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:29:58AM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS A DESIGNATED CLASSIFICATION THAT
11:30:02AM DETERMINES IF STRUCTURES CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL CHARACTER
11:30:06AM OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:30:07AM SOME AREAS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE ON
11:30:13AM THE LOCATION.
11:30:14AM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST UNDER THAT RED DOT.
11:30:18AM THIS IS NUCCIO PARKWAY, IT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE
11:30:21AM STRUCTURE.
11:30:24AM THIS IS A VIEW FACING NORTH.
11:30:26AM ONCE AGAIN, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, NUCCIO PARKWAY, AND
11:30:29AM INTERSTATE 4.
11:30:33AM THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:30:38AM IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1913.
11:30:40AM THE AREA SURROUNDING IT IS SOMEWHAT OVERGROWN, SO THESE
11:30:44AM PHOTOS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT IN CERTAIN AREAS TO TAKE.
11:30:48AM THIS IS THE STREET VIEW.
11:30:49AM YOU SEE THAT THERE'S OTHER CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES IN THE
11:30:53AM VICINITY.
11:30:56AM THE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
11:31:01AM DIVISION ON JULY 5th OF 2018.
11:31:05AM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HELD A HEARING ON
11:31:09AM SEPTEMBER 11th OF 2018.
11:31:12AM THE REQUEST WAS TO CHANGE THE STATUS OF THIS PARTICULAR
11:31:18AM STRUCTURE FROM CONTRIBUTING TO NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:31:20AM NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE DISTRICT WITH REGARDS
11:31:25AM TO DEMOLITION WOULD BE DONE ESSENTIALLY BY RIGHT THROUGH THE
11:31:30AM STAFF.
11:31:31AM A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
11:31:35AM REQUIRES A PROCESS THROUGH THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION IF
11:31:40AM THAT STRUCTURE WERE TO BE DEMOLISHED.
11:31:42AM I'M GOING TO ASK ELAINE TO GO THROUGH A SERIES OF MAPS THAT
11:31:48AM WE RELY UPON TO VALIDATE STATUS OF STRUCTURE.
11:31:57AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:31:59AM ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
11:32:01AM I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO START WITH A MAP THAT DOES NOT SHOW
11:32:05AM THE STATUS OF THE STRUCTURES WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AS
11:32:09AM THEY ARE TODAY, BUT THIS IS A MAP RESULTING FROM WORK THAT
11:32:14AM WAS DONE IN 1974 WHEN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS
11:32:19AM FIRST LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
11:32:23AM YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL DESIGNATION OF THAT DISTRICT
11:32:27AM OUTLINED IN THE BLACK DOTS THERE.
11:32:30AM THE MAP AT THIS TIME INCLUDED SORT OF AN ANALYSIS OF THE
11:32:38AM STRUCTURES OUTSIDE THAT PARTICULAR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:32:43AM AND IN ORDER TO SORT OF GIVE AN INDICATION OF THE NATURE OF
11:32:46AM THE BUFFER ZONE AROUND THE DISTRICT, A LOT OF THE AREA
11:32:52AM SHADED IN GREEN THAT INDICATED THAT THE AREA AT THAT TIME
11:32:55AM WAS VACANT, PRIMARILY DUE TO URBAN RENEWAL EFFORTS.
11:32:59AM AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE SOME AREAS THAT ARE IN A DIFFERENT
11:33:04AM COLOR GREEN WHERE IT'S INDICATED THAT THEY WERE TO BE SLATED
11:33:08AM TO BE DEMOLISHED FOR URBAN RENEWAL PROJECTS.
11:33:11AM THE ORANGE ARROW IS POINTING AT THE SITE OF THE STRUCTURE
11:33:17AM WHERE IT SITS TODAY ON 12th AVENUE.
11:33:19AM THIS IS A MAP FROM THE 1986 YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT
11:33:26AM DESIGN GUIDELINES.
11:33:27AM THIS IS ONE OF THE EARLIEST MAPS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICE
11:33:29AM ON FILE THAT INDICATES THE CONTRIBUTING AND NONCONTRIBUTING
11:33:34AM STATUS OF THE STRUCTURES IN THE YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC
11:33:38AM DISTRICT.
11:33:40AM WHEN THE YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS INITIALLY
11:33:43AM ESTABLISHED BY STATE LEGISLATION, THE INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES
11:33:48AM WITHIN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT DID NOT HAVE EITHER A
11:33:51AM CONTRIBUTING OR NONCONTRIBUTING STATUS.
11:33:52AM IN 1988 AND 1989 SURVEY WORK WAS DONE TO EXPAND THE YBOR
11:34:03AM CITY NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARIES WITH THE
11:34:07AM INTENT OF CREATING A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT.
11:34:11AM THE NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT EFFORTS DID TAKE
11:34:16AM SOME TIME.
11:34:18AM INITIALLY, THEY LOOKED AT DOING THE BOUNDARY EXPANSION TO
11:34:21AM CREATE THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT IN I THINK 1979, BUT
11:34:25AM IT DID NOT FINALLY GET LISTED AS AN HISTORIC LANDMARK
11:34:29AM DISTRICT UNTIL 1990.
11:34:30AM SO THIS MAP IS SHOWING YOU THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY WORK
11:34:35AM THEN, AND AGAIN THE ORANGE ARROW IS POINTING TO THE PROPERTY
11:34:39AM IN QUESTION.
11:34:39AM A BLOWUP OF THAT MAP.
11:34:42AM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS SHADED.
11:34:44AM THE SHADED INDICATES THAT IT WAS TO BE CONSIDERED A
11:34:48AM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:34:49AM THIS IS THE MAP FROM THE NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK LISTING
11:34:56AM THAT IS INCLUDED WITH A COPY OF THE DISTRICT NOMINATION FOR
11:35:01AM THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT.
11:35:03AM AGAIN, WITH THE ORANGE ARROW POINTING TO THE PROPERTY IN
11:35:07AM QUESTION.
11:35:09AM AGAIN, LOOKING AT A BLOWUP OF THAT AREA, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT
11:35:13AM WAS SHADED IN, INDICATING IT WAS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:35:16AM THE NEXT THREE MAPS THAT WE HAVE HERE ARE ONES THAT WERE
11:35:32AM AFTER THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE
11:35:35AM CITY OF TAMPA, THERE WAS A LOCAL ORDINANCE FINALLY PASSED IN
11:35:41AM THE '80s THAT ESTABLISHED IT AS A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT,
11:35:44AM SO WE HAVE A SERIES OF MAPS NOW THAT WERE CREATED BY WHAT'S
11:35:48AM CURRENTLY THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DIVISION DEPARTMENT.
11:35:51AM SO THE MAP THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE ARROW, AGAIN,
11:35:54AM POINTING AT THE SHADED IN STRUCTURE INDICATING THAT IT'S
11:35:59AM CONTRIBUTING.
11:35:59AM THE BOUNDARY OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS EXPANDED TO
11:36:03AM THE SOUTHEAST IN 2002 AND THE STRUCTURE REMAINED
11:36:09AM CONTRIBUTING AT THAT TIME.
11:36:11AM AND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WERE
11:36:15AM EXPANDED IN 2013 TO THE NORTHWEST.
11:36:20AM THIS IS THE SAME MAP THAT MR. FERNANDEZ SHOWED YOU AT THE
11:36:22AM BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION WITH THE ORANGE ARROW POINTING
11:36:26AM TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
11:36:30AM >> COUNCIL, WHEN EVALUATING THESE CLASSIFICATIONS, WHAT WAS
11:36:36AM RELIED UPON BOTH FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION AND
11:36:41AM LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION IS REFERRED TO AS
11:36:45AM NATIONAL REGISTER BULLETIN NUMBER 15.
11:36:49AM JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY, I'LL KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE
11:36:55AM SELLING POINTS FOR YOU.
11:36:55AM ESSENTIALLY, PROPERTIES ARE EVALUATED UNDER FIVE DIFFERENT
11:37:01AM AREAS.
11:37:02AM THERE'S THE NECESSITY TO CATEGORIZE A PROPERTY.
11:37:06AM PROPERTIES ARE TYPICALLY CATEGORIZED AS INDIVIDUALLY
11:37:10AM ELIGIBLE OR ELIGIBLE WITHIN A GROUP.
11:37:11AM A GROUP TYPICALLY IS A DISTRICT.
11:37:12AM THERE ARE SOME AREAS AS WELL, BUT THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY WHAT
11:37:15AM WE DEAL WITH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:37:18AM THIS IS, OF COURSE, PART OF THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:37:23AM THE AREA OF HISTORIC CONTEXT IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS AN AREA
11:37:26AM OF SIGNIFICANCE.
11:37:28AM PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.
11:37:29AM IN YBOR CITY, THAT IS STRUCTURES BUILT BETWEEN 1886 TO 1940.
11:37:33AM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1913.
11:37:36AM THE DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE WITHIN YBOR CITY FALLS
11:37:43AM UNDER CRITERION A AND C.
11:37:46AM PRINCIPALLY FOR A STRUCTURE OF THIS TYPE IT WOULD BE ITS
11:37:49AM RELATIONSHIP TO THE CIGAR INDUSTRY AS AN EARLY FORMER OF
11:37:53AM WORKER HOUSING.
11:37:54AM THE CRITERIA CONSIDERATIONS WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY OTHER
11:37:58AM UNIQUE SITUATIONS THAT MAY BE APPLIED, SUCH AS IF THE
11:38:01AM STRUCTURE WAS MOVED OR WAS A CEMETERY, THOSE DON'T APPLY TO
11:38:07AM THE PARTICULAR CASE.
11:38:08AM AND THEN THE DETERMINATION, IF THE PROPERTY REMAINS AS A
11:38:12AM SIGN OF ITS ORIGINAL INTEGRITY.
11:38:14AM INTEGRITY IN AND OF ITSELF IS PROBABLY AT THE CORE OF THIS
11:38:18AM PARTICULAR ISSUE.
11:38:18AM I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR TESTIMONY ABOUT THE STRUCTURES
11:38:23AM -- ABOUT THE STRUCTURE'S MODIFICATIONS.
11:38:25AM SOME EARLIER PICTURES FROM 2003 AND 2012 OF THE STRUCTURE
11:38:36AM AND SOME OF THE ONES I HAD SHOWN YOU EARLIER IN THE PHOTO
11:38:44AM ESSAY.
11:38:45AM WHEN DEALING WITH INTEGRITY, THERE'S SEVEN ESSENTIAL
11:38:53AM COMPONENTS OF THAT.
11:38:55AM LOCATION, DESIGN, SETTING, MATERIALS, WORKMANSHIP, FEELING,
11:38:59AM AND ASSOCIATION.
11:39:00AM AND THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY WEIGHED BY THE PERSON WHO IS
11:39:07AM EVALUATING THE STRUCTURE.
11:39:08AM BUT THERE IS SOME DIRECTION GIVEN WITH -- WITHIN BULLETIN
11:39:14AM NUMBER 15 THAT SAYS ALL PROPERTIES CHANGE OVER TIME.
11:39:17AM IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR A PROPERTY TO RETAIN ITS HISTORIC
11:39:22AM PHYSICAL FEATURES OR CHARACTERISTICS.
11:39:23AM THE PROPERTY MUST RETAIN, HOWEVER, THE ESSENTIAL PHYSICAL
11:39:27AM FEATURES THAT ENABLE IT TO CONVEY ITS HISTORIC IDENTITY.
11:39:32AM THOSE ARE FEATURES THAT DEFINE BOTH WHY THE PROPERTY IS
11:39:35AM SIGNIFICANT, THE APPLICABLE AREAS OF SIGNIFICANCE, AND WHEN
11:39:38AM IT WAS SIGNIFICANT, THE PERIOD IS SIGNIFICANT.
11:39:42AM THROUGH THE STAFF EVALUATION AND THE DETERMINATION OF THE
11:39:49AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, STAFF DOES FEEL THAT
11:39:53AM DESPITE THE MODIFICATIONS, THE STRUCTURE STILL CONTRIBUTES
11:39:59AM TO THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:40:02AM ALL OF OUR REFERENCE MAPS FROM THE VERY EARLY PERIOD SHOW
11:40:07AM THIS AS BEING A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:40:11AM THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER CULTURAL RESOURCE SURVEYS WITHIN THE
11:40:14AM DISTRICT THAT HAVE CONTRADICTED THAT DESIGNATION.
11:40:19AM HOWEVER, WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT A LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION,
11:40:22AM THAT IS A CITY OF TAMPA DESIGNATION, WHICH ULTIMATELY THE
11:40:27AM CITY CONTROLS.
11:40:27AM SO OTHER REVIEWERS FROM -- THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH PERHAPS
11:40:31AM FEDERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE EVALUATING THAT, THEIR
11:40:35AM DETERMINATION DOES NOT NECESSARILY MANDATE THAT THE CITY HAS
11:40:38AM TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF A PROPERTY.
11:40:40AM THAT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR HANDS.
11:40:42AM SO WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND MAKE MYSELF
11:40:46AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:40:47AM THANK YOU.
11:41:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, FOR THE
11:41:23AM RECORD, MS. GRIMES IS PROVIDING THE DVD TO THE CLERK.
11:41:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, GINA GRIMES WITH THE LAW
11:42:00AM FIRM OF HILL WARD HENDERSON, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
11:42:03AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING PERRY GAGLIANO AND MRS. GAGLIANO.
11:42:09AM HE IS THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE.
11:42:09AM HE PURCHASED THE HOUSE IN JULY OF 1986 AND OWNED IT FOR THE
11:42:13AM LAST 32 YEARS.
11:42:14AM THE REASON HE PURCHASED IT IS MR. GAGLIANO DOESN'T HAVE A
11:42:18AM 401(K), DOESN'T HAVE A PENSION PLAN.
11:42:21AM INSTEAD HE'S OF THE SCHOOL OF THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD BUY
11:42:23AM INCOME-PRODUCING PROPERTY IN ORDER TO GIVE HIM AN INCOME
11:42:26AM STREAM AS HE GOT OLDER.
11:42:28AM THIS WAS THE FIRST HOUSE HE PURCHASED WITH REGARD TO THAT --
11:42:32AM HIS RETIREMENT PLAN.
11:42:33AM AS YOU HEARD, THIS IS AN APPEAL FROM THE DECISION OF THE
11:42:39AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
11:42:40AM WE REQUESTED THAT THEY CHANGE THE STATUS OF THIS HOME FROM
11:42:43AM CONTRIBUTING TO NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:42:45AM AND THE REASON FOR THAT REQUEST WAS SO THAT AT THIS POINT IN
11:42:49AM TIME THAT THE STRUCTURE COULD BE DEMOLISHED.
11:42:51AM IT'S BEEN CONDEMNED BY THE CITY, AND IT'S THE SUBJECT OF
11:42:55AM SEVERAL CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES.
11:42:57AM AS YOU HEARD, THE HPC DENIED THE REQUEST BY A VOTE OF 3-2.
11:43:03AM IT'S OUR POSITION THAT THE REASON THAT THE REQUEST WAS
11:43:05AM DENIED BECAUSE THE CHAIRMAN, MS. VIVIAN SALAGA, TESTIFIED,
11:43:12AM EFFECTIVELY TESTIFIED IN THAT CASE.
11:43:14AM SHE INTRODUCED INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT A PART OF THE
11:43:17AM RECORD, AND SHE APPLIED THE INCORRECT LAW.
11:43:19AM SO GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU ALL AND PRESENT TO
11:43:22AM YOU ALL EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THE APPLICATION OF THE
11:43:24AM CORRECT LAW IN THIS CASE TO CHANGE THE STATUS FROM
11:43:26AM CONTRIBUTING TO NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:43:27AM THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU, IS THIS HOUSE A CONTRIBUTING
11:43:31AM STRUCTURE?
11:43:31AM IT'S OUR POSITION AT THE TIME THAT THE YBOR CITY LOCAL
11:43:36AM HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN APPROXIMATELY
11:43:39AM '88, '89, '90 IS WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON IT, THIS HOUSE
11:43:44AM WAS NOT THEN, AND IS NOT NOW A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:43:50AM AND THE MAP THE STAFF SHOWED YOU ARE, IN FACT, INCORRECT.
11:43:52AM THE REASON THAT IT'S NOT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS BECAUSE
11:43:58AM PRIOR TO MR. GAGLIANO'S PURCHASE IN 1986, PRIOR TO THAT, AND
11:44:01AM WE THINK IT HAPPENED AROUND 1965, THE STRUCTURE WAS
11:44:04AM SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED, MOST NOTABLY, IT WAS COVERED ALMOST
11:44:08AM ENTIRELY BY STUCCO.
11:44:09AM I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
11:44:11AM WINDOWS COVERED BY STUCCO.
11:44:13AM A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL FEATURES WERE REMOVED.
11:44:15AM THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE HOUSE TO LOSE ITS HISTORICAL
11:44:18AM INTEGRITY, AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THOSE
11:44:21AM MAPS AS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
11:44:23AM I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU -- MR. FERNANDEZ SHOWED YOU ONE OF THE
11:44:28AM MAPS, THE 2018 MAP, WHICH IS THIS ONE BELOW.
11:44:31AM BUT WHAT HE DIDN'T SHOW YOU WAS 2006.
11:44:34AM AND HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ALL THESE HOMES ON THE
11:44:38AM OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET EXISTED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
11:44:40AM STREET.
11:44:41AM HERE IS THE INTERSTATE.
11:44:41AM YOU CAN SEE AT THE TIME IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
11:44:43AM WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE INTERSTATE WAS CONSTRUCTED WAS THAT
11:44:47AM THE CITY AND THE F.D.O.T. DEMOLISHED ALL THESE HOMES WITH
11:44:51AM THE EXCEPTION OF ONE IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET.
11:44:54AM SO HERE WE ARE AT THE EDGE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BUMPING
11:44:58AM UP NEXT NOW TO A DEAD-END STREET WITH THE INTERSTATE
11:45:02AM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND NO HOMES AT ALL TO BUFFER IT.
11:45:05AM SO WE'RE FACING THIS HOME RIGHT HERE IS DIRECTLY FACING THE
11:45:10AM INTERSTATE.
11:45:10AM ACROSS THE STREET, YOU CAN SEE, HERE'S THE HOME THAT
11:45:14AM REMAINS, THE F.D.O.T. OWNED HOME.
11:45:17AM IT'S IN TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE CONDITION.
11:45:19AM IT'S THE SUBJECT OF GRAFFITI.
11:45:25AM IT IS THE SUBJECT OF NEGLECT.
11:45:27AM THE SUBJECT OF DETERIORATION.
11:45:31AM I'M NOT CERTAIN, MAYBE MR. FERNANDEZ CAN TELL US WHETHER OR
11:45:36AM NOT THAT'S ALSO BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT
11:45:39AM VIOLATION.
11:45:40AM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT HAS BEEN.
11:45:43AM AS OURS HAS.
11:45:45AM NOW, HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS FROM THE CITY.
11:45:49AM THIS FIRST ONE WAS IN 2003.
11:45:52AM A PICTURE OF THE HOUSE.
11:45:53AM I'M GOING TO GO INTO SOME DETAIL ABOUT THE ALTERATIONS TO IT
11:45:59AM THAT CAUSED IT TO LOSE ITS HISTORICAL INTEGRITY.
11:46:02AM HERE IS A PICTURE IN 2012.
11:46:03AM AS YOU CAN SEE, HE'S TAKEN THE INITIATIVE -- HERE IS '18, HE
11:46:08AM TOOK THE INITIATIVE OF BOARDING IT UP AND MAKING SURE IT'S
11:46:11AM SECURE.
11:46:11AM HE'S GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE VANDALISM THAT IT'S ENDURED
11:46:14AM OVER THE YEARS.
11:46:15AM REMAINS BASICALLY IN THE SAME CONDITION.
11:46:20AM THESE ARE PICTURES FROM 2018.
11:46:23AM NOW, HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS, INDIVIDUAL PHOTOS OF THE HOUSE
11:46:25AM THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU, WHICH SHOW YOU THAT IT'S LOST
11:46:29AM ITS HISTORICAL INTEGRITY.
11:46:30AM HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE ORIGINAL PIERS.
11:46:35AM THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BRICK.
11:46:36AM YOU CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY IT'S COVERED BY STUCCO.
11:46:38AM HERE ARE THE BRICK PIERS.
11:46:39AM ORIGINAL BRICK PIERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, AND NOW THERE'S
11:46:43AM CONCRETE PIERS.
11:46:46AM THE PORCH ON THE CORNERS HAVE LOST THE CORNER BOARDS.
11:46:49AM YOU CAN SEE ON THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT RIGHT HERE,
11:46:52AM THERE ARE CORNER BOARDS.
11:46:54AM THEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND BOARDED OVER.
11:46:56AM THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE IS THAT THE --
11:47:04AM THE COLUMNS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE -- HERE'S THE NEW
11:47:08AM PIERS, BUT HERE ARE THE WOOD COLUMNS.
11:47:10AM OVER THE YEARS, THE ORIGINAL COLUMNS HAD BEEN REMOVED PRIOR
11:47:12AM TO MR. GAGLIANO'S PURCHASE, AND ALUMINUM OR COLUMNS WERE
11:47:18AM PLACED THERE AND EVEN THOSE WERE STOLEN AT SOME POINT.
11:47:21AM SO NOW THERE ARE ONLY WOOD PIERS THERE.
11:47:23AM HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE ROOF COVERINGS.
11:47:25AM IT HAS A V CRIMP ROOF ON IT NOW.
11:47:29AM IT ORIGINALLY HAD SHINGLES.
11:47:31AM THE SHINGLES WERE COVERED UP AND THAT PART OF ITS HISTORICAL
11:47:35AM INTEGRITY HAS BEEN LOST.
11:47:36AM HERE IS A PICTURE SHOWING YOU A CLOSE-UP OF THE STUCCO
11:47:39AM PLACED EXACTLY OVER THE SIDING.
11:47:41AM FOR YEARS, THE SIDING HAS BEEN DETERIORATING UNDERNEATH THAT
11:47:44AM STUCCO.
11:47:44AM MORE IMPORTANT IS THE WINDOW OR THE FENESTRATION PATTERN IN
11:47:47AM THE HOUSE.
11:47:49AM HERE'S A PICTURE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE FACING
11:47:51AM TOWARDS THE REAR, SHOWING THE WINDOW HAS BEEN COMPLETELY
11:47:54AM STUCCOED OVER.
11:47:56AM HERE IS ANOTHER WINDOW ON THE WEST SIDE ALSO STUCCOED OVER
11:47:59AM AND A THIRD WINDOW ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WAS STUCCOED OVER.
11:48:02AM HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE WINDOW ON THE EAST SIDE THAT WAS
11:48:05AM STUCCOED OVER.
11:48:06AM AND WHEN I SAY STUCCOED OVER, I DON'T MEAN THEY JUST PLACE
11:48:08AM STUCCO OVER TOP OF THE WINDOW.
11:48:11AM WINDOW SASHES, FRAMES, EVERYTHING WERE REMOVED AND WE HAVE
11:48:14AM PICTURES FROM THE INSIDE THAT SHOW THAT.
11:48:16AM THIS IS THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.
11:48:18AM TWO WINDOWS EXISTED RIGHT THERE.
11:48:20AM BOTH OF THEM REMOVED AND STUCCOED OVER.
11:48:22AM THERE IS A PICTURE OF THE ONE ON THE ONE SIDE AND A PICTURE
11:48:25AM OF THE WINDOW ON THE OTHER SIDE.
11:48:27AM HERE'S A PICTURE FROM THE INSIDE THAT SHOWS THAT PANELING
11:48:31AM WAS PLACED OVER TOP OF THOSE WINDOWS.
11:48:34AM I ALSO WANT TO SHOW YOU AS FAR AS THE ALLEY IS CONCERNED --
11:48:41AM OH, LET ME FIRST SAY, THERE IS A VACANT LOT NEXT DOOR, IT IS
11:48:44AM A 25-FOOT LOT THAT MR. GAGLIANO HAS PURCHASED.
11:48:47AM SO THIS IS A 25-FOOT LOT.
11:48:49AM IF HE WERE ABLE TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE, HE WOULD BE
11:48:52AM WILLING TO PLACE ON HERE EITHER ALLOW A HISTORIC HOME TO BE
11:48:55AM MOVED HERE OR TO HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION THERE.
11:49:01AM HERE'S THE ALLEY IMMEDIATELY BEHIND HIS HOME.
11:49:04AM AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BEEN CLEARED.
11:49:07AM HERE IS THE ALLEY IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE ADJACENT HOMES THAT
11:49:10AM ARE FULL OF TRASH.
11:49:11AM THE REASON HIS IS CLEARED AND THEIRS HAVE TREASURE, HE'S
11:49:13AM BEEN CITED AND THEY HAVE NOT.
11:49:15AM ONE OF THE I THINK MORE COMPELLING ARGUMENTS THAT WE HAVE IS
11:49:21AM THAT YOU MAY THINK, WELL, MR. GAGLIANO JUST NEGLECTED THE
11:49:25AM HOUSE AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE CONDITION IT IS NOW.
11:49:27AM IT'S NOT FAIR NOW TO SAY IT'S CONTRIBUTING.
11:49:29AM THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
11:49:30AM I'LL SHOW YOU DIRECT PROOF.
11:49:31AM ON THE VERY SAME STREET, TWO HOUSES AWAY, THESE ARE THE TWO
11:49:35AM OTHER HOMES THAT MR. GAGLIANO PURCHASED.
11:49:37AM I BELIEVE HE PURCHASED THESE IN 19 -- AROUND 1990?
11:49:42AM '93.
11:49:43AM THESE TWO HOMES.
11:49:45AM VERY WELL MAINTAINED HOMES.
11:49:47AM THIS IS 1207 EAST 12th AVENUE, AND THIS IS 1209 EAST
11:49:53AM 12th AVENUE.
11:49:54AM AS YOU CAN SEE, VERY WELL MAINTAINED HOMES, AND YOU WANT TO
11:49:59AM TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MR. GAGLIANO RENTS BOTH OF
11:50:03AM THOSE HOMES FOR $500 A MONTH.
11:50:05AM THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOMES.
11:50:07AM NOT VERY MANY PLACES THAT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO RENT
11:50:11AM NICER HOMES CAN GO TO GET A HOUSE THAT NICE AND BE ABLE TO
11:50:14AM LIVE IN YBOR CITY.
11:50:16AM I GIVE YOU THOSE PICTURES TO DOCUMENT TO YOU THAT HE'S A
11:50:21AM VERY RESPONSIBLE LANDLORD.
11:50:23AM IT'S IN HIS BEST INTEREST TO MAINTAIN THESE HOMES BECAUSE
11:50:26AM IT'S HIS REVENUE STREAM.
11:50:27AM IT'S HIS LIVELIHOOD.
11:50:29AM IT IS HIS RETIREMENT PLAN.
11:50:31AM AS YOU HEARD FROM THE STAFF, THEY BASICALLY BASED THEIR
11:50:40AM ARGUMENT ON THESE MAPS, THESE SERIES OF MAPS THAT HAVE
11:50:43AM EXISTED OVER TIME.
11:50:44AM AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
11:50:45AM DID YOU HEAR THEM SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE
11:50:48AM STRUCTURE STILL HAS ITS HISTORICAL INTEGRITY?
11:50:51AM NO, THEY DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT THAT.
11:50:53AM THE ONLY TESTIMONY YOU HAVE IS THAT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY
11:50:56AM HAS BEEN LOST.
11:50:56AM THEY RELY STRICTLY ON THESE MAPS, AND I DON'T WANT TO WRIT
11:51:01AM SIZE -- CRITICIZE STAFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEVERAL HISTORICAL
11:51:05AM DISTRICTS.
11:51:05AM ONLY A STAFF OF THREE, I THINK.
11:51:07AM A FULL PLATE.
11:51:08AM LOTS TO DO.
11:51:09AM DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY, TIME TO GO BACK AND DO THE
11:51:11AM INDIVIDUAL RESEARCH THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A CASE LIKE THIS.
11:51:14AM BUT WE DID THAT.
11:51:14AM WE WENT BACK AND WE DID THAT RESEARCH.
11:51:17AM AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT WHEN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
11:51:21AM WAS FIRST CREATED IN 1989, 1990, A SURVEY WAS DONE, AND THAT
11:51:26AM SURVEY WAS DONE BY THE HISTORIC -- HISTORIC
11:51:29AM TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PRESERVATION BOARD.
11:51:31AM AND THEY WALKED THE STREETS AND THEY IDENTIFIED THE HOUSES
11:51:34AM THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES BASED ON THE
11:51:37AM NATIONAL BULLETIN CRITERIA AND WHICH STRUCTURES WERE NOT
11:51:41AM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
11:51:42AM WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK -- THEY TOOK THE SAND BOARD MAPS
11:51:47AM AND THEY EITHER COLORED IT IN BLACK OR THEY LEFT IT BLANK.
11:51:50AM BLACK MEANT IT WAS CONTRIBUTING.
11:51:52AM BLANK MEANT IT WAS NOT CONTRIBUTING.
11:51:54AM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
11:51:57AM PROPERTIES.
11:51:58AM SO THE POTENTIAL FOR A MISTAKE ON A MAP LIKE THIS IS PRETTY
11:52:01AM SIMPLE.
11:52:02AM AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIS CASE IS THERE WAS A MISTAKE
11:52:04AM MADE IN 1990 AND IT'S BEEN CARRIED OVER YEAR AFTER YEAR
11:52:08AM AFTER YEAR.
11:52:09AM HOW DO I KNOW THAT IS A MISTAKE?
11:52:11AM BECAUSE WE WENT AND PULLED FROM 1989 THE INFORMATION THAT
11:52:15AM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD SUBMITTED TO THE STATE.
11:52:18AM AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE OF MATERIALS.
11:52:20AM IN IT, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THIS NARRATIVE WAS BASED ON A
11:52:27AM TEN-YEAR-OLD STUDY.
11:52:28AM IT LACKED THE NECESSARY DATA FROM A FIELD SURVEY TO
11:52:31AM DETERMINE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND AN INVENTORY OF
11:52:33AM CONTRIBUTING AND NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
11:52:35AM THEY RECEIVED A GRANT, AND THEY SAY THE APPLICATION WAS
11:52:39AM SUCCESSFUL AND THE SURVEY BEGAN IN DECEMBER, AND OUR TEAM
11:52:42AM COMPLETED FIELD WORK IN FEBRUARY AND COMPILED A LIST OF 850
11:52:46AM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
11:52:47AM AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS IF YOU'LL TURN TO PAGE 15 AND IT'S
11:52:52AM TABBED IN YOUR BOOK, YOU CAN SEE 1215 EAST 12th AVENUE IS
11:52:57AM A NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:52:58AM SO AT THE OUTSET, WHEN THE YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
11:53:02AM WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED, THE FIELD WORK CONDUCTED BY THE LOCAL
11:53:07AM STAFF AT THE PRESERVATION BOARD FOUND THIS STRUCTURE TO BE
11:53:10AM NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:53:12AM SOMEHOW A BLACK DOT GOT PLACED ON THAT MAP.
11:53:15AM THE ONLY WAY CAN I ASSUME THAT THE BLACK DOT GOT PLACED ON
11:53:18AM THAT MAP AND THAT ERROR COMPOUNDED YEAR AFTER YEAR WAS THAT
11:53:22AM THE STRUCTURE NEXT DOOR WAS DEMOLISHED.
11:53:25AM AND SO THERE IS A LITTLE BLANK ON THE MAP RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
11:53:31AM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:53:34AM IF YOU CAN SEE, RIGHT -- YELLOW IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:53:38AM AND NEXT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A BLANK.
11:53:41AM ALL I CAN ARGUE -- ALL I CAN ASSERT OR SURMISE IS THAT
11:53:46AM SOMEONE THOUGHT THAT THAT MADE IT NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:53:49AM IT WAS ACTUALLY THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, NOT THE SUBJECT
11:53:52AM PROPERTY.
11:53:53AM I'VE GIVEN YOU THE DOCUMENTED PROOF THAT, IN FACT, WHEN YBOR
11:53:57AM CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS FIRST CREATED IT WAS ORIGINALLY
11:54:01AM DESIGNATED AS A NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
11:54:04AM NOW, GOING FORWARD, INDEPENDENT EVALUATIONS WERE DONE WHEN
11:54:08AM THE FLORIDA HIGH-SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY WAS COMING THROUGH AND
11:54:11AM THEY WERE EVALUATING THIS AREA.
11:54:12AM AND AT THAT TIME, THEY FOUND IT ALSO TO BE A NONCONTRIBUTING
11:54:20AM STRUCTURE.
11:54:20AM AND THEY SAY THAT THEY REVIEWED THE MAPS THAT THEY HAD, AND
11:54:25AM THEY UPDATED THEM BASED ON ADDITIONAL FIELD WORK.
11:54:28AM AGAIN, IF YOU GO TO THE TAB PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THE ENTRY
11:54:32AM FOR --
11:54:33AM [NO ENCODER]
11:54:35AM [NO ENCODER]
11:55:30AM [NO ENCODER]
11:55:33AM >> -- INDICATE THIS BUILDING DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE YBOR
11:55:36AM CITY NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT.
11:55:38AM AND THEN IT GIVES THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
11:55:40AM AND IN THE END, AS FAR AS THE STATE IS CONCERNED, THE
11:55:43AM ELIGIBILITY IS NO, IT'S NATIONAL REGISTER -- ITS NATIONAL
11:55:51AM REGISTER ELIGIBILITY IS NO.
11:55:52AM YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
11:55:53AM SO WE HAVE THREE PIECES OF SPECIFIC DOCUMENTED INFORMATION
11:55:59AM WITH REGARD TO THIS SPECIFIC STRUCTURE.
11:56:01AM NOT THESE GENERAL MAPS THAT THE STAFF SHOWED YOU, BUT
11:56:04AM SPECIFIC INFORMATION.
11:56:05AM NOW, WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
11:56:07AM IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO EVALUATING WHETHER,
11:56:10AM IN FACT, NOW YOU ALL FIND THAT THIS STRUCTURE SHOULD BE
11:56:15AM CONTRIBUTING VERSUS NONCONTRIBUTING, WE ALSO HAVE TO
11:56:18AM EVALUATE THE NATIONAL REGISTER BULLETIN.
11:56:21AM AS THE STAFF POINTED OUT, CRITERIA C IS WHAT'S APPLICABLE
11:56:25AM HERE UNDER THE NATIONAL REGISTER BULLETIN.
11:56:27AM IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER BULLETIN IT TALKS ABOUT WORKMANSHIP
11:56:30AM AND THE SEVEN ASPECTS OF INTEGRITY OF THE MATERIAL, SO THAT
11:56:33AM WHEN ALTERATIONS OCCUR, THE INTEGRITY OF THE STRUCTURE MUST
11:56:37AM BE MAINTAINED.
11:56:38AM IT STATES ON PAGE 45, THE PROPERTY IS REHABBED, THE
11:56:42AM HISTORICAL MATERIALS AND SIGNIFICANT FEATURES MUST BE
11:56:45AM PRESERVED.
11:56:46AM THAT DID NOT HAPPEN HERE.
11:56:47AM THE ORIGINAL FEATURES HAVE ALL EITHER BEEN REMOVED OR
11:56:50AM COVERED OVER.
11:56:51AM AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY, IF IT MAINTAINS SOME BASIC
11:56:55AM FEATURES LIKE MASSING BUT LOST THE MAJORITY, THEN IT'S NOT
11:56:58AM ELIGIBLE.
11:56:59AM IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT IF THEY ARE CONCEALED UNDER MODERN
11:57:01AM CONSTRUCTION, THE PROPERTY IS NO LONGER ELIGIBLE.
11:57:04AM IT LOST ITS INTEGRITY.
11:57:06AM THE SAME INFORMATION IS SET FORTH IN THE YBOR CITY DESIGN
11:57:10AM GUIDELINES.
11:57:11AM I WOULD CLOSE BY SAYING THAT THIS PROPERTY NO LONGER HAS
11:57:16AM HISTORIC INTEGRITY.
11:57:18AM IT DID IT IN 1990 WHEN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS FIRST
11:57:21AM ESTABLISHED.
11:57:21AM IT'S GOT INAPPROPRIATE STUCCO.
11:57:23AM IT'S BEEN REROOFED.
11:57:24AM IT LOST THE WINDOW FENESTRATION PATTERN.
11:57:27AM THE PORCH HAS BEEN ALTERED.
11:57:30AM COLUMNS REMOVED AND THE LOSS OF THE FOUNDATION PIERS.
11:57:32AM AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU FIND THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS
11:57:35AM LOST ITS INTEGRITY AND THAT THE STATUS SHOULD BE CHANGED
11:57:38AM FROM CONTRIBUTING TO NONCONTRIBUTING.
11:57:41AM AND ON REBUTTAL, I'D LIKE MR. GAGLIANO TO SPEAK TO YOU WITH
11:57:45AM REGARD TO HIS HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY.
11:57:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU JUST USED YOUR REBUTTAL TIME.
11:57:50AM >> PARDON ME?
11:57:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU WENT OVER.
11:57:51AM SO YOU USED YOUR REBUTTAL TIME.
11:57:54AM >> OKAY.
11:57:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: JUST KIDDING.
11:57:55AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:58:03AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE PIECE OF PAPER YOU HAVE ON THERE RIGHT
11:58:05AM NOW, MS. GRIMES, WHAT YEAR IS THAT?
11:58:10AM >> THAT IS FEBRUARY OF 2003.
11:58:11AM I BELIEVE IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE OF MATERIALS.
11:58:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
11:58:16AM COUNCIL?
11:58:17AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 45?
11:58:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:58:32AM HAPPY NEW YEAR.
11:58:33AM FRAN COSTANTINO, 2551 EAST 11th AVENUE, HISTORIC EAST YBOR
11:58:39AM CITY.
11:58:40AM I ONLY COME TO YOU WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY TOUCHES
11:58:44AM MY HEART AND IS REAL IMPORTANT.
11:58:46AM I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR YBOR CITY
11:58:48AM FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.
11:58:50AM THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST AND MOST EGREGIOUS CASES
11:58:55AM THAT HAVE EVER COME.
11:58:57AM AS FAR AS HISTORIC PRESERVATION, I WOULD ACTUALLY CONSIDER
11:58:59AM THIS CRIMINAL.
11:59:02AM THIS PROPERTY, I PROBABLY REPORTED IT TO RENEE LOPEZ AND
11:59:06AM THEN TO WALLACE NELSON FOR 10, 12 YEARS.
11:59:10AM THIS HOUSE IS 100 YEARS OLD.
11:59:13AM IT IS CONTRIBUTING.
11:59:16AM EVERY HOUSE ON THAT STREET IS CONTRIBUTING.
11:59:18AM EVERY OWNER HAS PUT MONEY INTO IT.
11:59:20AM THAT STREET IS AMAZING OTHER THAN THE HOMES OWNED BY
11:59:24AM MR. GAGLIANO AND DANNY ALMADEREZ.
11:59:29AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE FALL THROUGH WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
11:59:32AM EVEN WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:59:33AM HOW SOMEBODY CAN BUY A HOUSE AND OWN IT FOR 33 YEARS, PAID
11:59:43AM $2,900 FOR IT, AND NOT DO A SINGLE THING TO THAT HOUSE FOR
11:59:50AM 33 YEARS.
11:59:51AM CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:59:54AM I DIDN'T MAKE THE GIRL GO BACK ANY FURTHER.
11:59:56AM SHE WAS LIKE EXASPERATED.
12:00:01PM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN ON THIS ELMO.
12:00:03PM THIS IS IN 2012.
12:00:11PM HE WAS CITED.
12:00:11PM REPAIR, REPLACE THE DETERIORATING AND COLLAPSING PORTIONS OF
12:00:15PM THE ROOF.
12:00:15PM I SENT ALL THIS TO YOU ALL YESTERDAY LATE SO THAT YOU ALL
12:00:19PM CAN SEE THE CODE VIOLATIONS, THE EGREGIOUSNESS OF THIS.
12:00:24PM IF YOU WERE TO LOOK UP DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT, YOU WOULD
12:00:29PM PROBABLY SEE THE OWNER'S PICTURE THERE.
12:00:31PM IF YOU PULL THE HPC AND READ THE MINUTES, THEY WERE BRAVE
12:00:35PM ENOUGH WITH THE COURAGE TO STAND THEIR GROUND AND NOT
12:00:39PM UNDESIGNATE THIS HOUSE.
12:00:41PM EVERY HOUSE ON THAT BLOCK IS UNBELIEVABLE.
12:00:45PM HE'S ONLY GETTING 450 RENT.
12:00:47PM THERE'S A HOUSE TWO HOUSES DOWN THAT ARE TWO BEDROOM ONE
12:00:52PM BATH AND I'M GETTING $1200 FOR.
12:00:54PM IT'S NOT MY HOUSE.
12:00:55PM BUT IT IS AN EYESORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:00:59PM IT IS CONSIDERED CONTRIBUTING.
12:01:01PM THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP.
12:01:04PM IF YOU UNDESIGNATE IT, WHICH I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TODAY, DO
12:01:07PM NOT TAKE AWAY THAT DESIGNATION, THE NEXT STEP IS TO
12:01:10PM DEMOLISH.
12:01:10PM THEN A GENERAL CONTRACTOR COMES IN AND TELLS YOU IT WILL
12:01:13PM TAKE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO BRING IT BACK TO ITS GLORY,
12:01:16PM THAT BECOMES ECONOMICALLY UNFEASIBLE, THEN THEY DEMOLISH.
12:01:20PM WE HAVE LOST IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS THREE OR FOUR
12:01:24PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES THAT I KNOW OF.
12:01:26PM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GIVES US OUR DESIGNATION BASED ON THE
12:01:30PM PERCENTAGE OF HISTORIC HOMES IN HISTORIC YBOR CITY.
12:01:34PM WITH ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE NEW STUFF THAT'S
12:01:37PM GOING ON, THE MORE HOUSES THAT GET DEMOLISHED AND THE MORE
12:01:40PM WE LOSE, WE HAVE A CHANCE OF LOSING OUR DESIGNATION AT THE
12:01:42PM RATE WE'RE GOING.
12:01:43PM SO I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST AND DO
12:01:47PM NOT UNDESIGNATE THIS HOUSE ON BEHALF OF HISTORIC
12:01:50PM PRESERVATION AND THE HISTORIC YBOR CITY.
12:01:52PM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:01:54PM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S 12.
12:01:55PM WE NEED TO EXTEND THE TIME.
12:01:56PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
12:02:00PM INTERNAL STUFF HERE.
12:02:01PM MOTION FROM MR. COHEN, SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:02:05PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:02:07PM OPPOSED.
12:02:07PM OKAY.
12:02:08PM LET'S GO.
12:02:12PM >> WE EXTENDED THE TIME.
12:02:15PM >> I'M SORRY.
12:02:23PM >> I'M TRYING TO GET MY PowerPoint UP.
12:02:25PM I'M SORRY.
12:02:36PM IT'S NOT ME.
12:02:37PM I THINK IT TIMES OUT.
12:02:38PM GOOD MAN.
12:02:44PM MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN THE ROOM.
12:02:47PM HELLO AGAIN.
12:03:00PM MARY McCAHON.
12:03:01PM I PARTICIPATED IN THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
12:03:06PM MEETING.
12:03:07PM AND, FRANKLY, I WAS PRETTY DISTURBED ABOUT WHAT I HEARD AND
12:03:10PM SAW.
12:03:11PM I'M AN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN.
12:03:13PM I'VE PRACTICED FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS AND HAVE APPLIED THE
12:03:16PM NATIONAL REGISTER CRITERIA TO TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
12:03:19PM PROPERTIES.
12:03:20PM AND WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT BEING ELIGIBLE FOR THE
12:03:26PM REGISTER AND ANY EVALUATION INVOLVES NOT ONLY SIGNIFICANCE
12:03:30PM BUT ALSO MEETING THE ASPECTS OF INTEGRITY.
12:03:34PM INTEGRITY IS THE ABILITY OF A PROPERTY TO CONVEY ITS
12:03:37PM SIGNIFICANCE.
12:03:37PM AND IT HAS TO BE PRESENT.
12:03:39PM IT'S ALWAYS GROUNDED IN AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPERTY'S
12:03:42PM PHYSICAL FEATURES AND HOW THEY RELATE TO THAT SIGNIFICANCE,
12:03:46PM WHICH IN THIS DISTRICT IS ASSOCIATION WITH THE CIGAR
12:03:49PM INDUSTRY.
12:03:50PM THE OTHER INTERESTING THING, AND THAT IS OUTLINED IN
12:03:53PM BULLETIN 15, WHICH THOSE US OF WHO PRACTICED FOR YEARS REFER
12:03:58PM TO AS THE BIBLE.
12:03:59PM WHAT'S ALSO VERY INTERESTING FOR YOU, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY,
12:04:01PM IS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION, YOUR CITY CODE FOR THE HISTORIC
12:04:05PM PRESERVATION COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THEY ARE TO
12:04:12PM USE BULLETIN 15 AS THEIR CRITERIA FOR EVALUATION.
12:04:15PM SO IT'S NOT BASED ON WHAT AN OBSERVER, OR A WORKER DOES.
12:04:20PM IT IS BASED ON THE BULLETIN 15 CRITERIA.
12:04:25PM IT SAYS THAT TO BE ELIGIBLE, HAVE SIGNIFICANCE, YOU ALSO
12:04:31PM HAVE TO MEET SEVERAL AND GENERALLY MOST OF THE ASPECTS OF
12:04:35PM INTEGRITY.
12:04:36PM MS. GRIMES SHOWED YOU A BUILDING THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE
12:04:39PM ASPECTS OF INTEGRITY OF DESIGN.
12:04:41PM IT DOES NOT USE THE -- REPRESENT THE MATERIALS AND HAVE THE
12:04:44PM APPEARANCE OF A PRE-1940 HOUSE.
12:04:47PM THE SETTING HAS BEEN CHANGED.
12:04:49PM THE MATERIALS.
12:04:50PM THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED.
12:04:51PM THEY HAVE BEEN IRREVERSIBLY ALTERED.
12:04:55PM WORKMANSHIP IS GONE AND UNFORTUNATELY SO IS BECAUSE OF
12:04:58PM DEMOLITIONS THE FEELINGS.
12:04:59PM I HAVE HAD OCCASION, BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT TAMPA HEIGHTS
12:05:04PM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M FOREVER OUT FINDING MISTAKES ON MAPS.
12:05:09PM THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU USE TO ASSESS.
12:05:13PM THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF NOMINATIONS, YOU HAVE TO DO AN
12:05:16PM INVENTORY, AS SHE SHOWED OF EVERY CONTRIBUTING AND
12:05:20PM NONCONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN THE DISTRICT.
12:05:23PM AND THAT, AS SHE SHOWED, COMES UP AS NONCONTRIBUTING BECAUSE
12:05:26PM OF THE ALTERATIONS AS SHE SAID, PROBABLY 1965.
12:05:33PM HERE'S AN AREA AROUND MY HOUSE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:05:35PM I WANT TO IMPRESS UPON YOU THAT THE MISTAKES GO BOTH WAYS.
12:05:39PM BUILDINGS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING, HAVE
12:05:41PM BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NOT CONTRIBUTING.
12:05:43PM THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THEM AND THAT HAS HAPPENED.
12:05:48PM THEY ALSO HAVE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN AS CONTRIBUTING THAT
12:05:50PM AREN'T BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOST THE ASPECTS OF INTEGRITY.
12:05:53PM I URGE YOU TO REVERSE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S
12:05:59PM DETERMINATION THAT THIS IS ELIGIBLE IN FAIRNESS AND IN
12:06:03PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENABLING LEGISLATION.
12:06:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE VOTE BEFORE, TOO.
12:06:14PM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:06:15PM STEVE MICHELINI.
12:06:16PM IN MY FORMER LIFE, I WAS A CITY EMPLOYEE, AND I WAS CHARGED
12:06:23PM WITH DIRECTING THE ECONOMIC RESEARCH ASSOCIATES CONSULTING
12:06:27PM STUDY THAT SET OUT THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR YBOR CITY,
12:06:30PM INCLUDING THE LOCAL DESIGNATION.
12:06:33PM AND BECAUSE OF URBAN RENEWAL, MUCH OF THE HOUSING STOCK WAS
12:06:38PM REMOVED, AND WE WERE HAVING A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFICULTY BEING
12:06:44PM ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE GUIDELINES THAT MS. McCAHON JUST
12:06:49PM MENTIONED REGARDING DESIGNATION OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
12:06:51PM SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THE CONSULTANTS THAT WERE WORKING FOR
12:06:56PM THE CITY INCLUDED LARGE TRACTS OF LAND WHERE THERE WAS STILL
12:07:01PM HOUSING STOCK, AND THE WINDSHIELD SURVEY OF THE DRIVE-BYS TO
12:07:08PM INCLUDE STRUCTURES WAS KIND OF HIT AND MISS.
12:07:10PM BUT WE HAD TO HIT MINIMUM NUMBERS OF HOUSES TO BE INCLUDED.
12:07:14PM AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS
12:07:19PM CONTRIBUTING ON A BROADER SCALE, BUT WHEN YOU DO SPECIFIC
12:07:24PM ANALYSIS, AS THE ONES MS. GRIMES POINTED OUT TO YOU, YOU'RE
12:07:28PM SHOWING THEM AS NONCONTRIBUTING.
12:07:29PM THAT'S WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
12:07:33PM I WOULD SAY THAT PREVIOUSLY, I HAD TRIED TO ASSIST
12:07:38PM MR. GAGLIANO IN FINDING EITHER THE D.O.T. TO ASSIST HIM IN
12:07:43PM RELOCATING THE STRUCTURE OR REHABBING THE STRUCTURE.
12:07:46PM WE OFFERED THE STRUCTURE TO OTHER THIRD PARTIES THAT THEY
12:07:51PM COULD HAVE IT AND RELOCATE IT OR RENOVATE IT AND THERE WERE
12:07:53PM NO TAKERS.
12:07:55PM I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF
12:07:58PM IN TRYING TO HELP DO SOMETHING TO STABILIZE THIS.
12:08:01PM HOWEVER, THE CONTRIBUTING NATURE OF THIS STRUCTURE
12:08:04PM DISAPPEARED IN THE 1960s WHEN THEY STUCCOED OVER
12:08:08PM EVERYTHING.
12:08:08PM AND AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT AND GINA GRIMES HAS POINTED
12:08:12PM OUT, THAT STUCCO WAS NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY AND CAUSED THE
12:08:17PM STRUCTURES INSIDE TO BEGIN DETERIORATING TO THE POINT WHERE
12:08:20PM WHEN I FIRST WENT INTO THERE WITH AN ENGINEER AND I VISITED
12:08:24PM THE SITE THREE OR FOUR TIMES, THERE WERE NO RAFTERS LEFT FOR
12:08:30PM THE FLOORBOARDS.
12:08:31PM YOU COULD COLLAPSE IN THERE.
12:08:34PM THE INSPECTORS -- I WENT THERE WITH THE CITY INSPECTORS.
12:08:36PM AND THEY DETERMINED THAT IT WAS AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE AT THAT
12:08:40PM POINT.
12:08:40PM I WOULD SAY THAT THE BEST THING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS TO ALLOW
12:08:44PM THIS HOUSE TO COME DOWN, TAKE IT OFF THE DESIGNATION AS A
12:08:49PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND ALLOW NEW STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT
12:08:51PM THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GUIDELINES AND THE
12:08:53PM REDEVELOPMENT FOR YBOR CITY.
12:08:54PM THANK YOU.
12:08:58PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
12:09:00PM APPLICANT, YOU HAVE REBUTTAL TIME.
12:09:04PM >> GINA GRIMES.
12:09:06PM IN REBUTTAL, I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. GAGLIANO TO GET UP AND
12:09:10PM ADDRESS WITH YOU THE TIMELINE THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR
12:09:12PM PACKAGE OF MATERIALS.
12:09:13PM IT'S AT TAB 1.
12:09:15PM BUT INSTEAD OF READING IT, I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM TELL YOU
12:09:17PM ABOUT HIS HISTORY WITH THIS PROPERTY AND HOW IT CAME TO BE
12:09:21PM IN THE CONDITION IT IS NOW.
12:09:22PM MR. GAGLIANO.
12:09:24PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:09:26PM PERRY GAGLIANO, 2816 SANDERS.
12:09:29PM THE PROPERTY I PURCHASED ABOUT 32 YEARS AGO WITH FULL
12:09:35PM INTENTIONS OF RESTORING THE PROPERTY.
12:09:37PM I HAD MADE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS IN RESTORING THE PROPERTY ONLY
12:09:41PM TO HAVE MATERIAL STOLEN.
12:09:43PM AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS A VERY HARD-CORE
12:09:48PM DRUG NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:09:49PM SO I WAS ROBBED.
12:09:51PM I HAD ALL MY MATERIAL TAKEN.
12:09:53PM I WAS THREATENED WHEN I PUT TENANTS IN THAT HOUSE, WHEN THEY
12:09:57PM WOULDN'T PAY, I WAS THREATENED IF I WOULD GO THERE TO GET
12:10:00PM THE RENT.
12:10:02PM I'M CALLING THE POLICE, THE POLICE HAD NO WITNESSES OTHER
12:10:04PM THAN ME.
12:10:05PM AT THAT POINT, THE HOUSE DID FALL INTO DECLINE, AND IT WAS
12:10:10PM BOARDED UP.
12:10:11PM AND IT HAD REMAINED BOARDED UP BECAUSE THE HOUSE WAS
12:10:19PM COLLAPSING.
12:10:20PM THE OLD WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE TO THE HOUSE WASN'T DONE
12:10:24PM PROPERLY.
12:10:24PM AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY HISTORY WITH THE PROPERTY.
12:10:34PM AS FAR AS MRS. COSTANTINO WAS CONCERNED, SHE DOESN'T BRING
12:10:44PM UP THE FACT THAT THIS HURT HER WALLET, NOT HER HEART.
12:10:47PM I HAD A CONTRACT WITH MS. COSTANTINO TO SELL THAT PROPERTY
12:10:51PM WITH TWO OTHER PROPERTIES.
12:10:53PM I DIDN'T SIGN THE CONTRACT BECAUSE IN SIGNING THE CONTRACT,
12:10:57PM I WOULD HAVE COMMITTED FRAUD.
12:10:58PM I HAD TO SAY CERTAIN THINGS WERE DONE TO THE PROPERTY AND WE
12:11:02PM HAVE THE CONTRACT STILL.
12:11:04PM I WOULD HAVE HAD TO SAY CERTAIN THINGS WERE DONE TO THE
12:11:08PM PROPERTY THAT WERE NEVER DONE TO THE PROPERTY.
12:11:10PM I FEEL THIS ACTION BY HER HAS BEEN A GRUDGE FOR YEARS.
12:11:13PM I'VE HAD PEOPLE SENT OUT THERE CONSTANTLY ON A CONSTANT
12:11:17PM BASIS.
12:11:18PM THE ROOF REPAIR, I HAD THIS RECORDED AT A CITY COUNCIL
12:11:22PM MEETING.
12:11:23PM THERE'S A COPY OF IT SOMEWHERE WITH THE STAMP, BUT THIS WAS
12:11:26PM RECORDED SAYING THAT THE REPAIRS HAD BEEN DONE.
12:11:31PM I HAD WITNESSES.
12:11:32PM I HAVE THE CARPENTER'S NAME ON HERE.
12:11:34PM I HAD WITNESSES THAT SAW THE CARPENTER DO THE REPAIR.
12:11:38PM THE INSPECTORS CAME OUT AND THE INSPECTORS WOULD NOT CONTACT
12:11:41PM ME BACK.
12:11:42PM WHEN I CALLED TO SAY, IS IT ENOUGH OF A REPAIR?
12:11:45PM MAYBE IT WASN'T ENOUGH OF A REPAIR, BUT I THINK I DESERVE TO
12:11:48PM BE TOLD IT WASN'T ENOUGH OF A REPAIR.
12:11:52PM AT MY PLACE OF BUSINESS -- THE OTHER HOUSES THAT I HAVE ON
12:12:03PM THE STREET, THOSE I SUBSIDIZED PERSONALLY.
12:12:08PM I'VE GOT TWO BLACK WOMEN, NEITHER ONE OF THEM CAN AFFORD
12:12:12PM RENT.
12:12:13PM YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY KEEP THE HOUSE.
12:12:15PM THEY KEEP THE HOUSES UP.
12:12:17PM THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE $1200 MS. COSTANTINO GETS FROM
12:12:22PM HER RENTAL.
12:12:23PM THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY.
12:12:25PM ONE OF THEM WILL TELL YOU I'VE HAD HER THERE FOR TEN YEARS.
12:12:28PM THE OTHER ONE WILL TELL YOU I'VE HAD HER THERE SIX YEARS.
12:12:32PM I'VE NEVER GONE UP ON THEIR RENT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M NOT
12:12:35PM GETTING $1200 A MONTH.
12:12:37PM THE HOUSES ARE VERY COMPARABLE TO THE HOUSE THAT SHE IS
12:12:41PM MANAGING.
12:12:41PM THIS TO ME HAS BEEN A GRUDGE.
12:12:45PM I'VE EVEN HAD WORKERS TELL ME SHE'S COME TO MY PLACE OF
12:12:49PM BUSINESS SAYING SHE'S GOING TO GET IT SHUT DOWN.
12:12:52PM MUSIC IS TOO LOUD.
12:12:53PM IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
12:12:57PM BASICALLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THAT AND PASS IT
12:13:02PM TO --
12:13:04PM >> THANK YOU.
12:13:05PM JUST IN CLOSING, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT THE LEGAL
12:13:09PM STANDARD IS, AND THAT IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS HOUSE HAS
12:13:13PM HISTORICAL INTEGRITY.
12:13:14PM I THINK WE SHOWED YOU THROUGH THE INAPPROPRIATE STUCCO THE
12:13:16PM REROOFING, THE LOSS OF THE FENESTRATION PATTERN, THE PORCH
12:13:21PM ALTERATIONS INCLUDING LOSS OF THE COLUMNS AND STAIRS AND
12:13:23PM LOSS OF THE FOUNDATION PIERS.
12:13:25PM IT NO LONGER MAINTAINS ANY KIND OF HISTORICAL INTEGRITY.
12:13:28PM THAT INTEGRITY WAS LOST IN THE '60s WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY
12:13:33PM ALTERED.
12:13:34PM IN 1990 WHEN THAT SURVEY WAS DONE, IT SHOWED THIS HOUSE AS A
12:13:39PM NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
12:13:41PM THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DESIGNATED NOW.
12:13:43PM WE THINK THE MAPS ARE INCORRECT, AND WE'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU
12:13:46PM WHY.
12:13:46PM AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE YOUR -- A MOTION TO REVERSE THE
12:13:52PM DENIAL OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
12:13:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
12:13:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:13:57PM HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT, AND NOW WE NEED TO CLOSE THE
12:14:08PM HEARING.
12:14:09PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:14:10PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
12:14:12PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:14:13PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:14:15PM THOSE OPPOSED?
12:14:16PM ALL RIGHT.
12:14:17PM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:14:24PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT.
12:14:27PM THIS LAST PART OF THE DISCUSSION, THE PERSONALITIES AND THE
12:14:32PM BAD BLOOD INVOLVED ARE NOT GOING TO WEIGH ON MY DECISION.
12:14:36PM AND I REALLY DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES HERE THAT
12:14:40PM WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR HEARING,
12:14:43PM WHICH IS THERE ARE FOLKS THAT BUY PROPERTY AND ALLOW FOR IT
12:14:47PM TO BE -- TO FALL IN DISREPAIR IN ORDER TO ALOUD PROPERTY TO
12:14:52PM BE -- ALLOW THAT PROPERTY TO BE TORNED DOWN OR CHANGED
12:14:57PM SIGNIFICANTLY.
12:14:58PM SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS BY COUNSEL, MS. GRIMES, CONCERNING THE
12:15:01PM DOCUMENTS, THAT KEEP SAYING WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS
12:15:03PM CONFORMING OR NONCONFORMING HAS A HISTORY THAT I'M TRYING TO
12:15:08PM FIGURE OUT HOW IT FITS IN THE ENTIRE THING.
12:15:11PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS WHATEVER BAD
12:15:13PM BLOOD THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLE THAT SPOKE,
12:15:16PM MS. COSTANTINO AND MR. GAGLIANO ARE NOT GOING TO BE PART OF
12:15:19PM MY DECISION AT ALL.
12:15:20PM I THINK THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THOSE TWO PEOPLE BETTER
12:15:24PM COME TOGETHER IF THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME KIND OF
12:15:27PM RELATIONSHIP IN YBOR CITY.
12:15:29PM THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY ON THAT.
12:15:34PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
12:15:35PM THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF
12:15:40PM COUNCIL?
12:15:43PM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE TO REVERSE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION'S
12:15:46PM COMMISSION DENIAL OF PETITIONER'S APPLICATION HPC 2018-4
12:15:51PM REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE STATUS OF 1215 EAST 12th AVENUE
12:15:55PM FROM CONTRIBUTING TO NONCONTRIBUTING BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS
12:15:57PM DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
12:16:00PM APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-261I.
12:16:07PM AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MENTION THAT THE PETITIONER
12:16:12PM MADE A COMPELLING CASE FOR THE FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR
12:16:16PM STRUCTURE WAS DESIGNATED AS HISTORICALLY CONTRIBUTING IN
12:16:19PM ERROR.
12:16:20PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
12:16:22PM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
12:16:24PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
12:16:25PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.
12:16:28PM THOSE OPPOSED?
12:16:31PM >> NAY.
12:16:32PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
12:16:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:16:36PM THANK YOU.
12:16:42PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MR. CHAIR, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE.
12:16:47PM >> WE'RE AT NEW BUSINESS.
12:16:49PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OH, GOOD.
12:16:50PM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO WE HAVE ALREADY DONE 46 AND 47, RIGHT?
12:16:55PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: JUST ONE NOTE ON 47, I HAD TALKED PRIVATELY
12:16:59PM WITH SAL TERRITO AFTER OUR RECESS CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR
12:17:04PM ISSUE.
12:17:05PM I WANTED TO ALLEVIATE HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE CASE THAT IS
12:17:09PM BEFORE THE COURTS CONCERNING THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION
12:17:12PM REFERENDUM.
12:17:13PM I WANT TO REDO THE MOTION TO ALLOW CFO -- LIKE TO MAKE A
12:17:18PM MOTION TO ALLOW CFO SONYA LITTLE TO COME TO DISCUSS IN
12:17:23PM HYPOTHETICAL FASHION WHAT BONDING OPPORTUNITIES ARE
12:17:27PM AVAILABLE FOR DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN FROM THE ALL
12:17:30PM FOR TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM.
12:17:32PM AND I WOULD LIKE THAT AT OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED
12:17:35PM MEETING UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:17:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:17:37PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:17:39PM >> SECOND.
12:17:39PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:17:40PM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
12:17:41PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:17:43PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:17:44PM OPPOSED?
12:17:46PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:17:47PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:17:48PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
12:17:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING, SIR.
12:17:50PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA?
12:17:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING, SIR.
12:17:52PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN?
12:17:54PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, SIR.
12:17:55PM I HAD A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE SALVATION
12:17:56PM ARMY ON FEBRUARY 6th AT THEIR EVENT CELEBRATING DEDICATION
12:18:03PM OF GRAND OPENING OF THE WOMEN'S DORMITORY AND CHAPEL AT THE
12:18:07PM ADULT REHABILITATION CENTER.
12:18:08PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
12:18:09PM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:18:10PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:18:12PM OPPOSED?
12:18:12PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:18:14PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S IT.
12:18:14PM THANK YOU, SIR.
12:18:15PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE NEED TO RATIFY --
12:18:17PM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:18:17PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO, NO, NO, NO.
12:18:19PM WE NEED TO RATIFY SOMETHING WE VOTED ON BEFORE YOU GOT HERE,
12:18:29PM SUSAN LONG AS A MEMBER OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
12:18:32PM MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:18:33PM SECONDED BY -- WHO WAS IT SECONDED BY?
12:18:37PM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:18:37PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:18:39PM THOSE OPPOSED?
12:18:40PM ALL RIGHT.
12:18:42PM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:18:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
12:18:49PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ONE THING.
12:18:50PM IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR, GASPARILLA.
12:18:52PM WE ARE ALL GOING TO ENJOY OURSELVES THIS GASPARILLA.
12:18:55PM REMEMBER, DRINKING MAY BE INVOLVED BUT NOT A DRINKING
12:18:58PM CONTEST.
12:18:59PM EVERYBODY IS GATHERING AT HARRY COHEN'S HOUSE FOR A SPECIAL
12:19:03PM GASPARILLA PARTY.
12:19:04PM JUST CALL US UP HERE AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS.
12:19:06PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:19:07PM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE AND STRIKE THAT LAST
12:19:10PM THING FROM THE RECORD.
12:19:11PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:19:12PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I THINK I REMIND YOU ALL ONCE BEFORE, STILL
12:19:16PM COME BACK TO THE CHAIR.
12:19:17PM I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON THIS.
12:19:22PM I'M REQUESTING A MOTION TO HAVE BRAD BAIRD, SONYA LITTLE,
12:19:29PM ERIC WEISS AND CHUCK WEBER TO APPEAR BEFORE US AT OUR NEXT
12:19:33PM WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 31st TO TALK ABOUT WATER AND
12:19:37PM WASTEWATER PLANS.
12:19:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
12:19:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:19:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:19:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:19:46PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NOW YOU DO THE MOTION FOR RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:19:49PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:19:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:19:51PM OPPOSED?
12:19:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU GO, THAT ALSO
12:19:55PM INCLUDES RECEIVE AND FILE NUMBER 46 FOR THE CLERK'S RECORD.
12:19:58PM THANK YOU.
12:20:00PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT'S THAT?
12:20:03PM >> TO REMOVE AN ITEM --
12:20:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY A MOTION IF YOU WANT
12:20:07PM TO TAKE IT OFF THE CALENDAR.
12:20:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE
12:20:12PM JANUARY 31st WORKSHOP AGENDA THE PROPOSED CITIZENS TRAFFIC
12:20:15PM ADVISORY COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND MOVE SAID DISCUSSION TO
12:20:17PM THE MAY 23rd, 2019 COUNCIL WORKSHOP SO THAT NEW COUNCIL
12:20:21PM MEMBERS AND NEW ADMINISTRATION HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK
12:20:24PM TOGETHER.
12:20:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:20:25PM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
12:20:27PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:20:28PM OPPOSED?
12:20:29PM ALL RIGHT.
12:20:29PM WE STAND ADJOURNED.
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