TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 31, 2019
9:00 A.M. SESSION
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9:06:59AM
9:07:34AM >> LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:07:35AM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ IS RUNNING LATE, SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO
9:07:36AM INTRODUCE THE REV. JACQUELINE COFFIE LEEKS, WHO IS A TAMPA
9:07:36AM NATIVE WHO GRADUATED FROM HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
9:07:38AM SHE'S THE MOTHER OF THREE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN, TIA, ERIC AND
9:07:39AM KEANDRA AND THE DAUGHTER OF THE LATE RONALD COFFIE, SR. AND
9:07:43AM MARILYN STREETER.
9:07:44AM SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE 34th STREET CHURCH OF GOD, WHERE
9:07:47AM BISHOP TOM SCOTT AND OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE HERE ON TAMPA CITY
9:07:50AM COUNCIL IS THE PASTOR.
9:07:53AM SHE SERVES IN OUR COMMUNITY IN SEVERAL CAPACITIES INCLUDING
9:07:55AM BEING A PART OF THE MAYOR'S AFRICAN ADVISORY COUNCIL, THE
9:07:59AM VICE CHAIR OF THE SULFUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD OF PROMISE AND
9:08:02AM A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA METRO ALUMNI CHAPTER OF DELTA SIGMA
9:08:07AM THETA INCORPORATED.
9:08:10AM SO REVEREND, IT'S OUR REAL PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE, IF
9:08:13AM EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PRAYER AND REMAIN
9:08:15AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:08:16AM >> THANK YOU.
9:08:21AM IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
9:08:23AM LET US PRAY.
9:08:24AM FIRST WE SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, LORD, REALIZING THAT
9:08:27AM BECAUSE YOU PROMISED THAT YOU WOULD CARE FOR US, YOU BROUGHT
9:08:30AM US TO THIS VERY MOMENT.
9:08:32AM AS I STAND BEFORE YOUR PEOPLE, I AM HUMBLED AS YOUR SERVANT.
9:08:35AM I THANK YOU, GOD, FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL.
9:08:37AM I THANK YOU FOR THIS CITY.
9:08:41AM AS THEY WORK DAILY TO TRANSFORM OUR COMMUNITY, THAT YOU
9:08:45AM CONTINUE TO TRANSFORM THEM.
9:08:47AM GOD, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING THEM TO BE FRUSTRATED,
9:08:50AM ALLOW IT TO MAKE THEM MORE FOCUSED.
9:08:53AM THOSE THINGS, GOD, THAT ARE CAUSING DISCORD, WE RIGHT NOW
9:08:57AM PRAY FOR HARMONY.
9:08:58AM GOD, WE PRAY RIGHT NOW FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR FIRE
9:09:02AM DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE AREAS THAT SERVE OUR CITY.
9:09:05AM GOD, AS THEY PUT OUT THE FIRES HELP THEM TO CALM THE FEAR OF
9:09:08AM THE PEOPLE AS THEY ENFORCE THE LAWS, GOD, HELP THEM TO
9:09:12AM EMBRACE THE PEOPLE WITH A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
9:09:14AM WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT THIS CITY STANDS FOR.
9:09:16AM WE THANK YOU FOR THE RECOVERY OVER THIS CITY BUT WE ASK YOU
9:09:21AM TO CONTINUE TO UNITE US TO SERVE YOUR PEOPLE.
9:09:24AM DON'T LET US LOOK DOWN ON THIS WHEN WE PICK SOMEONE UP.
9:09:29AM REMIND US THAT IT'S A VOICE.
9:09:32AM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS TODAY LET THEM BE REMINDED OF WHAT
9:09:35AM YOU CALL THEM TO DO, TO SERVE OUR CITY.
9:09:37AM WE THANK YOU.
9:09:38AM WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS US INDIVIDUALLY, AND COLLECTIVELY.
9:09:42AM IN JESUS NAME I PRAY.
9:09:44AM AMEN.
9:09:45AM (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE)
9:09:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
9:10:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:10:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:10:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:10:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:10:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:10:21AM WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
9:10:23AM FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:10:26AM MR. CHARLIE MIRANDA.
9:10:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT MY
9:10:41AM PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO BE HERE FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A
9:10:43AM PRESENTATION TO MICHAEL MACNAMARA.
9:10:48AM WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR WHAT HE'S DONE ON A COMPUTER AND HOW HE
9:10:51AM HANDLES THE COLLECTION AND INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED TO
9:10:53AM MAKE ARRESTS.
9:10:56AM THE CHIEF WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION, AND MICHAEL, RIGHT
9:11:02AM HERE, SIR.
9:11:06AM FIRST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER ON YOU.
9:11:10AM BUT THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKS SO DILIGENTLY, AND AS I
9:11:14AM SAID THE CHIEF IS GOING TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING AND
9:11:17AM WHY HE WAS CHOSEN ONE OF 12 A YEAR AS POLICE OFFICER OF THE
9:11:19AM MONTH WHEN THERE'S OVER A THOUSAND POLICE OFFICERS.
9:11:22AM SO THAT MEANS HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.
9:11:24AM THAT MEANS THAT HE'S BEEN ABOVE THE CALL OF DUTY AND HE DOES
9:11:27AM IT BECAUSE NOT ONLY HIS JOB BUT THE WILL TO SERVE THE
9:11:30AM PUBLIC.
9:11:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:11:33AM ASSISTANT CHIEF VAZQUEZ.
9:11:36AM PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
9:11:37AM THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE TO
9:11:40AM RECOGNIZE ONE OF OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST OFFICERS HERE.
9:11:44AM I HAVE WITH ME DETECTIVE MACNAMARA, WHO IS AN 8 YEAR
9:11:48AM VETERAN.
9:11:49AM HE'S BEEN HERE TWO YEARS AND PUTS TOGETHER SOME REALLY GREAT
9:11:55AM CASES AND WHAT I REVIEW WILL BE ONE OF THEM.
9:11:58AM ONE OF HIS MANY DUTIES IS TO MONITOR SOCIAL MEDIA FOR MANY
9:12:02AM OF THESE VIOLENT OFFENDERS, AND WHAT THEY POST, AND ANY
9:12:07AM INTELLIGENCE THAT WE CAN GET FROM THAT.
9:12:09AM AND WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
9:12:11AM SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, DETECTIVE MACNAMARA OBSERVED A
9:12:16AM LIVE VIDEO POSTED ON THE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT OF A KNOWN
9:12:20AM OFFENDER AT A GUN RANGE FIRING SEVERAL DIFFERENT FIREARMS.
9:12:31AM [NO ENCODER]
9:12:53AM [NO ENCODER]
9:13:17AM >> THEY RESPONDED OUT THERE, COLLECTED NUMEROUS SHELL
9:13:22AM CASINGS AND OTHER EVIDENCE AS WELL.
9:13:24AM LATENT PRINT FROM ONE OF THE RENTED RIFLES WAS RECOVERED
9:13:28AM THAT BELONGED TO ONE OF THESE OFFENDERS AND ANOTHER PRINT
9:13:32AM WAS ON AN AMMUNITION BOX THAT THEY HAD TOUCHED.
9:13:37AM A DAY AFTER THIS INVESTIGATION STARTED, A 17-YEAR-OLD BOY
9:13:41AM RIDING HIS BIKE AT THE AREA OF 20th STREET AND FAIRFAX
9:13:46AM MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS WHEN A VEHICLE DROVE BY AND FIRED
9:13:49AM THREE SHOTS AT THIS JUVENILE.
9:13:51AM THE JUVENILE WAS STRUCK AND IS NOW PARALYZED.
9:13:56AM THE SHELL CASINGS RECOVERED IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE WERE
9:14:00AM ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM WHICH IS THE NATIONAL INTEGRATED
9:14:03AM BALLISTIC INFORMATION NETWORK AND FOUND TO MATCH THE CASINGS
9:14:08AM RECOVERED FROM THE PLANT CITY GUN RANGE, AND THE FN
9:14:12AM 9-MILLIMETER TAKEN FROM ONE OF THE OFFENDERS.
9:14:15AM FURTHER INVESTIGATION REVEALED INCRIMINATING STATEMENT BY
9:14:18AM THE OFFENDERS.
9:14:19AM DETECTIVE MACNAMARA WROTE A SEARCH WARRANT ON THE CELL PHONE
9:14:23AM AND INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT OF THESE OFFENDERS WHICH PROVIDED MORE
9:14:26AM EVIDENCE THAT LINKED THEM TO THAT PARTICULAR SHOOTING.
9:14:29AM IN DECEMBER HE WAS ABLE TO CHARGE TWO OF THE DEFENDANTS WITH
9:14:32AM ATTEMPTED MURDER FOR THAT SHOOTING OF THE JUVENILE AND THE
9:14:35AM OTHER DEFENDANT WAS CHARGED WITH FELONY POSSESSION.
9:14:38AM THIS INVESTIGATION ALSO LED TO TWO OTHER SHOOTING
9:14:41AM INVESTIGATIONS THAT WERE APPARENTLY INVESTIGATING STILL
9:14:45AM ONGOING, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS TYPE OF WORK THAT
9:14:48AM DETECTIVE MACNAMARA HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS, THE LAST
9:14:53AM SEVERAL YEARS IN THE CRIME BUREAU.
9:14:54AM IT'S HARD WORK, DEDICATION FOR THE CRIME THAT WE RECOGNIZE
9:14:59AM HIM AS OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
9:15:02AM SO WE ARE VERY PROUD OF HIM.
9:15:03AM I KNOW HIS PARENTS ARE HERE, RETIRED MAJOR GEORGE MACNAMARA
9:15:08AM IS BACK THERE, AND HIS MOM IS RETIRED AS WELL, A LIEUTENANT,
9:15:13AM GERI, AND I'M SURE THEY ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM AND WE ARE AS
9:15:18AM WELL.
9:15:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:15:25AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:26AM >> DAVE CARMACK, PRESIDENT OF PBA.
9:15:30AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
9:15:35AM WE APPRECIATE THAT, CHIEF.
9:15:37AM THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING A MEMBER IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND
9:15:40AM FOR RECOMMENDING HIM.
9:15:41AM I HAD THE PLEASURE WHEN I WAS OUT IN TRAINING AND MAKE
9:15:47AM STARTED, I WAS OUT THERE AND I KNEW FIRST HAND THAT HE WAS
9:15:50AM GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS.
9:15:52AM AND THIS IS ACTUALLY HIS SECOND TIME STANDING BEFORE COUNCIL
9:15:58AM AND I'M SURE THIS WON'T BE THE LAST.
9:16:00AM HE MAKES US SHINE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER OFFICER EVERY MONTH
9:16:04AM AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR THAT.
9:16:05AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A WATCH FOR YOUR
9:16:09AM APPRECIATION.
9:16:10AM THANK YOU.
9:16:11AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:11AM >> WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE FIREFIGHTER
9:16:17AM OF THE QUARTER.
9:16:18AM THANK YOU, GUYS.
9:16:18AM WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:16:20AM THANK YOU.
9:16:20AM >> STEPPS TOWING SERVICE.
9:16:27AM CONGRATULATIONS DETECTIVE ON A JOB WELL DONE.
9:16:30AM AS A RESIDENT OF PLANT CITY I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY
9:16:33AM IN OUR SMALL TOWN, THANK YOU.
9:16:34AM WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO FOR US AND OUR
9:16:40AM COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
9:16:41AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPPS TOWING SERVICE I WOULD LIKE TO
9:16:45AM PRESENT YOU WITH A $50 BASS PRO CARD AND A NIGHT OUT IN OUR
9:16:49AM COMPANY LIMOUSINE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:16:52AM TAKE SOME TIME OFF.
9:16:53AM YOU DESERVE IT.
9:16:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:56AM >> TOM ROWAN, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:17:04AM THE BUCCANEERS WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND YOUR HONOR
9:17:08AM BEING BESTOWED TODAY WITH A GAME FOOTBALL.
9:17:11AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY,
9:17:13AM JANUARY 31st, 2019, OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:17:17AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:20AM >> MARY LOU BAILEY, HERE ON BEHALF OF CITY OF TAMPA LOWRY
9:17:27AM PARK.
9:17:28AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:17:29AM YOU ARE AWESOME.
9:17:30AM I LEARNED IN THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY HOW FOCUSED THE
9:17:33AM POLICE ARE AND HOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SO GREAT AT REDUCING
9:17:37AM CRIME RATE AND THE RESEARCH YOU SHOWED YOU EXEMPLIFY THE
9:17:42AM WHOLE THING.
9:17:42AM I'M PRESENTING YOU WITH AN ANNUAL PASS TO ZOO TAMPA FOR YOU
9:17:46AM AND YOUR FAMILY AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY NATURE WILDLIFE AS MUCH
9:17:50AM AS I DO, AND GO TO THE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR FREE, CHRISTMAS
9:17:53AM AND HALLOWEEN.
9:17:55AM ENJOY IT.
9:17:56AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:58AM >> JIM CARSON, BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:18:06AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:18:06AM WE SEE MANY OF YOU OFFICER COME THROUGH OUR DEALERSHIP.
9:18:10AM YOU RISE TO THE TOP.
9:18:11AM ALSO, WHEN I WAS DOING THIS ALSO DIECAST CAR I AM GOING TO
9:18:15AM GIVE YOU, I NOTICED YOUR BADGE NUMBER WAS NUMBER 5.
9:18:17AM AND I FOUND OUT THE HISTORY OF IT.
9:18:20AM SO HONORED TO HAVE YOUR DAD'S NUMBER.
9:18:25AM ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE AND MYSELF, I HAVE THIS MUSTANG FOR
9:18:31AM YOU.
9:18:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:34AM >> GEORGE RODRIGUEZ.
9:18:39AM HOW ARE YOU DOING?
9:18:40AM WE JUST WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH A CERTIFICATE, (CHILD
9:18:49AM CRYING) MUCH SO ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM US GIVE US A CALL AND
9:18:52AM WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
9:18:54AM THANK YOU.
9:18:55AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:18:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:56AM >> PETE, BUSCH GARDENS, TAMPA BAY.
9:19:10AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
9:19:12AM IT HAPPENS MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.
9:19:14AM AND LIKE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA STATED, THERE'S ONLY 12 HONORED.
9:19:19AM HAVING THE PLEASURE TO KNOW YOUR PARENTS, YOU COME FROM
9:19:22AM GREAT GENETICS.
9:19:23AM HE'S A GREAT COP AND GREAT MAN.
9:19:25AM ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH
9:19:28AM FOUR TICKETS TO OUR THEME PARK.
9:19:30AM I SEE YOU HAVE A SCREAMING FAMILY BACK THERE.
9:19:32AM (LAUGHTER)
9:19:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:19:43AM TAMPA THEATRE.
9:19:45AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR SERVICE IN OUR
9:19:48AM COMMUNITY.
9:19:48AM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE GIFT
9:19:51AM OF A MEMBERSHIP SO YOU CAN COME AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:19:57AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:58AM >> TAMPA EXPRESSWAY.
9:20:07AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:20:07AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:20:10AM A GIFT BAG WE PUT TOGETHER AND GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:20:17AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:20:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING.
9:20:28AM HOW ARE YOU DOING?
9:20:29AM YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS REALLY BACKED UP DOWN THERE.
9:20:32AM IT'S PRETTY BAD. ANYWAY, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF
9:20:35AM DIFFERENT CLIENTS.
9:20:36AM ONE OF THEM IS CRG RESTAURANTS.
9:20:39AM THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR
9:20:41AM $50.
9:20:42AM ANOTHER IS YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, $50 FROM THEM.
9:20:50AM ANOTHER IS FROM THE PRESTIGE PORTRAITS.
9:20:53AM THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A PORTRAIT PACKAGE FOR
9:20:55AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:20:57AM AND A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR THE YMCA.
9:21:02AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:02AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WE ARE
9:21:15AM DEEPLY HONORED THAT YOU ARE WEARING YOUR FATHER'S NUMBER,
9:21:17AM NUMBER 5, AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
9:21:20AM AND YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:21:22AM YOU ARE A WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN AND THE CHIEF WHAT HE SAID,
9:21:25AM IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THE WAY YOU PUT IT
9:21:28AM TOGETHER.
9:21:32AM YOU ARE READY TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY SAFER AND WHAT YOU DO
9:21:35AM AND WHAT ALL THE POLICE OFFICERS DO IN THIS CITY.
9:21:38AM THANK YOU.
9:21:40AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:41AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.
9:21:47AM IT'S AN HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED.
9:21:48AM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THIS CASE
9:21:51AM THAT THEY REFERENCED.
9:21:52AM FIRST --
9:21:59AM (CHILD FUSSING)
9:22:01AM AND THAT'S MINE.
9:22:03AM (LAUGHTER)
9:22:09AM IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND PEOPLE TO PUT THIS CASE TOGETHER.
9:22:15AM OFFICER DEBUSH, OFFICER GUSTAFSON, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
9:22:19AM POINTED ME IN THAT DIRECTION.
9:22:20AM WHEN I GOT THERE, I DIDN'T HAVE JURISDICTION.
9:22:23AM SERGEANT MOSS DIDN'T CALL FDLE.
9:22:26AM I CAN'T MAKE THIS CASE.
9:22:28AM I'M OVERWHELMED BY THE EVIDENCE I HAVE.
9:22:32AM ALICIA CAME OUT AND COLLECTED SO MUCH EVIDENCE IT TOOK TWO
9:22:35AM AND A HALF DAYS TO PROCESS.
9:22:37AM FROM THERE OUR FINGERPRINT SPECIALIST GONZALEZ HAD TO SPEND
9:22:40AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS LOOKING AT LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF
9:22:43AM FINGERPRINTS IN THIS CASE.
9:22:44AM DENNIS RODRIGUEZ AS A TECHNICIAN ON MY SQUAD WORKED WITH
9:22:49AM FDLE SO WE CAN MAKE THE CASE.
9:22:53AM THEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDED A CRITICAL WITNESS IN THE
9:22:55AM CASE.
9:22:56AM SO IT WHATS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT
9:22:58AM PEOPLE THAT LED TO THIS CASE GOING THE WAY THAT IT DID.
9:23:01AM SO I'M THANKFUL TO BE HONORED HERE TODAY BUT IT TOOK A LOT
9:23:05AM MORE THAN ME TO MAKE THIS CASE.
9:23:06AM THANK YOU.
9:23:07AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:07AM >> I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
9:23:17AM DID I UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH YOUR PARENTS --
9:23:21AM >> THEY ARE RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS.
9:23:23AM >> THAT'S GREAT.
9:23:24AM AND SO SECOND GENERATION BUT JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU
9:23:28AM DO, YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO SEE US, SOCIETY AT OUR
9:23:33AM WORST, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ACT AT YOUR BEST AND THAT'S A
9:23:38AM REALLY TOUGH CHALLENGE AND YOU SEEM LIKE THE KIND OF
9:23:41AM APPROXIMATE EARN THAT REALLY PULLS THAT OFF.
9:23:42AM WE ARE IN YOUR DEBT.
9:23:44AM I MEAN THAT.
9:23:44AM >> THANK YOU.
9:23:45AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:23:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:24:10AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:24:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY
9:24:14AM COUNCIL, IT'S MY PLEASURE TODAY WITH CHIEF CICERO TO MAKE A
9:24:20AM PRESENTATION TO THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
9:24:21AM THIS INDIVIDUAL MASS DONE SOME OUTSTANDING THINGS THAT THE
9:24:24AM CHIEF WILL BRING UP WHEN HE COMES TO THE MIKE IN A SECOND.
9:24:27AM AND THIS INDIVIDUAL IS JUST ONE OF MANY IN THE FIRE
9:24:31AM DEPARTMENT THAT HAS CREATED ONCE A QUARTER.
9:24:35AM HOW MANY QUARTERS ARE THERE IN A YEAR?
9:24:37AM THAT'S THE ODDS THAT HE HAS OF GETTING THIS.
9:24:39AM SO -- WELL, WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT HE'S DONE AND WAIT TILL
9:24:44AM YOU SEE HOW HE DID IT AND WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT IT MEANS TO
9:24:47AM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS ONE OFFICER TOOK ONE STEP TO SAY
9:24:50AM I WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE CHANGE.
9:24:52AM CHIEF.
9:24:53AM >> CHIEF LOCICERO: THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY.
9:25:00AM WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THOMAS ERNEST McKEE
9:25:03AM AS HE HAS BEEN SELECTED FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER FOR 2019.
9:25:09AM CAPTAIN McKEE HAS BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 14
9:25:13AM YEARS.
9:25:13AM HE WAS ORIGINALLY ASSIGNED TO WEST TAMPA STATION 9 FOR FOUR
9:25:17AM YEARS BEFORE TRANSFERRING TO STATION 6 WHICH IS IN THE PORT.
9:25:22AM HIS LOVE FOR THE FIRE SERVICE AND HIS DEDICATION AND DUTY
9:25:26AM LED HIM TO BE SPECIALIST ON THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAM
9:25:31AM WHICH LED HIM TO SEEK OUT MUCH SPECIFIED TRAINING IN
9:25:36AM RELATION TO PROTECTION OF THE PORT AND THE COMMUNITY
9:25:37AM THEREIN.
9:25:37AM HE WAS PROMOTED TO DRIVER IN 2011 AND WAS ASSIGNED AGAIN
9:25:41AM CONTINUING HIS HAZ-MAT ROOTS.
9:25:45AM HE CONTINUED HIS COURSES WITH RADIOLOGICAL AND NUCLEAR SITE
9:25:51AM SURVEYING IN NEVADA, IN UTAH, AND INCIDENCE WITH CLASSES OUT
9:26:00AM IN COLORADO.
9:26:01AM SO HE IS WELL VERSED AND HAS DONE A LOT TO MAKE THIS
9:26:04AM COMMUNITY SAFE.
9:26:06AM OVERALL, HE SPENT 7.5 YEARS WITHIN THE HAZ-MAT DIVISION, AND
9:26:11AM BECAUSE OF HIS DUTY AND HIS FOCUS, IN 2018 HE WAS PROMOTED
9:26:16AM TO CAPTAIN.
9:26:17AM WITH THAT ASSIGNMENT HE WAS ASSIGNED TO STATION 8 IN THE
9:26:20AM WESTSHORE DISTRICT.
9:26:21AM NOT A BAD PLACE TO GO.
9:26:22AM MY FIRST ASSIGNMENT.
9:26:23AM SO VERY GOOD AREA TO WORK IN.
9:26:26AM WHERE HE'S BEEN THUS FAR.
9:26:28AM IN THE PAST YEAR HE'S DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF AS AN
9:26:31AM OUTSTANDING CAPTAIN.
9:26:32AM HE HAS A HUMBLE AND DELIBERATE MANNERISM ABOUT HIM.
9:26:37AM AND AFTER ALL OF THAT, HE REALIZED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS
9:26:41AM THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT AREA, YOU GO AND RESPOND ON A
9:26:45AM WHOLE HOST OF AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS IN THAT AREA.
9:26:48AM THE TRAFFIC HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY OVER TIME.
9:26:53AM AND RECENTLY, WE JUST HAD A CHANCE TO TALK.
9:26:56AM AND HE WAS SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC AND POPULATION AND
9:27:02AM BUILDING STRUCTURE HAS CHANGED IN THAT DISTRICT.
9:27:04AM WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, ONE NIGHT IN PARTICULAR HE WAS
9:27:08AM ASSIGNED WITH HIS ENGINE COMPANY TO A MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT
9:27:11AM WHICH WAS A LONGER PROTRACTED EXTRICATION.
9:27:16AM AND WHILE THEY PUT THEIR DUTIES AND SKILLS TO GOOD USE, AND
9:27:19AM THEY WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THE PERSON FROM THE CAR ONE OF THE
9:27:24AM THINGS THEY NOTICED OVERTIME, CAR MANUFACTURING AND THE
9:27:27AM MANNER IN WHICH THE STEELS ARE PUT TOGETHER IN THESE
9:27:30AM VEHICLES HAS CHANGED.
9:27:31AM AND SOMETIMES WE ARE NOT IN THE FIRE SERVICE AS IN TUNE WITH
9:27:37AM THOSE CHANGES AND HOW FAR WE GO TO STAY IN LINE WITH THOSE.
9:27:43AM SO HE WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY EXTRICATE THE PERSON FROM THE
9:27:48AM CAR AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF IT TOO SOON, OBVIOUSLY.
9:27:53AM WHAT HE DID WITH THAT INCIDENT WAS TO TAKE THAT TO ANOTHER
9:27:57AM LEVEL, AND HE SOUGHT OUT ADMINISTRATION AND MUCH WORK ON HIS
9:28:02AM OWN TO SEEK OUT A SEPARATE FUNDING SOURCE AND SEEK OUT SOME
9:28:08AM GRANTS FOR SOME IMPROVED EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT
9:28:13AM GOES TO SO MANY LOCATIONS.
9:28:16AM SO THROUGH THE OFFICES HE WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN A GRANT THROUGH
9:28:28AM EXTRICATION.
9:28:29AM THEY RECEIVED A WHOLE SUIT OF EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT, CLOSE
9:28:34AM TO $30,000 WORTH THAT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THAT
9:28:38AM COMMUNITY IN THE WESTSHORE AREA.
9:28:40AM YOU KNOW THE ALLEGIANCE THAT HE HAS SHOWN AND THE HONOR TO
9:28:45AM THE DEPARTMENT REALLY SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND THAT'S WHY WE
9:28:47AM ARE HERE TODAY.
9:28:48AM THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HE HAS PROVEN HIMSELF AGAIN AND
9:28:52AM AGAIN, HE HAS STOOD OUT BY RECEIVING TWO, THREE AWARDS, HEY
9:28:58AM RISE TRAINING CERTIFICATION AND MARINE WORKING WITH THE FIRE
9:29:02AM BOATS.
9:29:03AM AND ALL THAT HE'S STILL HAS TIME FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE AS HE
9:29:07AM HAS CONTINUALLY WORKED IN SEVERAL "PAINT YOUR HEART OUT"S
9:29:12AM THAT THE CITY PROVIDES.
9:29:13AM FOR HIS COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION, ASSURING FIRE RESCUE IS
9:29:16AM BETTER EQUIPPED AND TRYING TO SERVE THE CITIZENS THAT WE
9:29:20AM ULTIMATELY SERVE, WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE ERNEST McKEE
9:29:25AM AS OUR FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
9:29:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:30AM >> CAPTAIN HANSON, CHAIRMAN OF THE TAMPA FIRE AWARDS REVIEW
9:29:38AM BOARD.
9:29:38AM ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE CAPTAIN
9:29:41AM McKEE FOR BEING SELECTED AS THE FIRST FIREFIGHTER OF THE
9:29:46AM QUARTER AND A NIGHT OUT, ALSO A WEEKEND STAY AT THE MARRIOTT
9:29:51AM THAT WILL BE COMING THE NIGHT OF OUR EVENT.
9:29:53AM IT IN THE MAIL.
9:29:54AM I WILL HAVE IT TO YOU.
9:29:56AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:29:58AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:00AM >> JOE GRECO FROM TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
9:30:06AM WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE CAPTAIN McKEE AS FIREFIGHTER
9:30:10AM OF THE QUARTER.
9:30:11AM THERE'S A $50 GIFT CARD.
9:30:16AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:19AM >> MIKE RUCKER, STEPPS TOWING SERVICE.
9:30:26AM IT'S AMAZING.
9:30:26AM EVERY QUARTER WE COME IN HERE, IT'S JUST AMAZING THE WORK
9:30:30AM THAT YOU GUYS DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:30:32AM AND HE WOULD CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.
9:30:34AM WE ARE SO GLAD TO BE PART OF EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.
9:30:37AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPPS AND STEPS TOWING SERVICE, A NIGHT
9:30:43AM OUT IN OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE.
9:30:45AM ENJOY A NIGHT OFF.
9:30:49AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:52AM >> TAMPA THEATRE.
9:30:55AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:30:59AM THIS IS A GIFT MEMBERSHIP ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE.
9:31:04AM SO YOU CAN COME FOR FREE.
9:31:10AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:11AM >> JIM CARSON, BILL CURRIE FORWARD.
9:31:14AM ON BEHALF OF THE CURRIE FAMILY AND MYSELF I WOULD LIKE TO
9:31:17AM PRESENT YOU A BRAND NEW MUSTANG.
9:31:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:22AM >> TOM ROLAND, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:31:27AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:31:29AM GLAD TO RECOGNIZE YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENT WITH A GAME BALL.
9:31:32AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY,
9:31:35AM JANUARY 31st, FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
9:31:39AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:40AM >> JOE RODRIGUEZ.
9:31:46AM THANK YOU.
9:31:48AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE FOR A THERAPY SESSION.
9:31:52AM COME IN AND LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:31:55AM WHAT HURTS.
9:31:56AM I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A TOUGH JOB.
9:32:02AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:04AM >> BUSCH GARDENS.
9:32:06AM CAPTAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
9:32:10AM IT'S INCREDIBLE, THE SUPPORT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS
9:32:15AM HERE.
9:32:15AM AN INCREDIBLE DISPLAY.
9:32:18AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:32:19AM AND ON A PERSONAL SELFISH NOTE I WORK IN THE WESTSHORE
9:32:23AM DISTRICT.
9:32:23AM I HOPE I NEVER GET TO MEET YOU.
9:32:25AM BUT ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, FOUR TICKETS TO COME ENJOY
9:32:29AM ONE OF OUR PARKS AND IF YOU NEED MORE TICKETS JUST HOLLER.
9:32:32AM THANK YOU.
9:32:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:36AM >> TAMPA EXPRESSWAY.
9:32:40AM CAPTAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:32:41AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:32:47AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:32:47AM >> BAILEY, TAMPA LOWRY PARK.
9:32:58AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR SUPPORT AND ALL
9:33:00AM THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO AND I APPRECIATE THE FLESH TIFF YOU
9:33:03AM TOOK TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS AND THE TECHNOLOGY.
9:33:06AM ENJOY YOURSELF ALL YEAR LONG AT ZOO TAMPA.
9:33:09AM THAT'S A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP AND IT COMES WITH SPECIAL EVENTS
9:33:13AM AND CHECK OUT SOME OF OUR BEHIND-THE-SCENES TOUR, MEET THE
9:33:16AM RHINO.
9:33:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:22AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:33:29AM FIRST, A FEW YEARS AGO WE HAD AN EXTRICATION RODEO WHERE WE
9:33:34AM INVITED ACTUALLY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE INVITED AREA FIRE
9:33:38AM DEPARTMENTS TO COMPETE WITH OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN
9:33:42AM THE TAMPA BAY REGION, AND YOUR DEDICATION HAS SORT OF
9:33:49AM INSPIRED ME TO GO AND ASK TO SEE IF WE CAN'T REINSTITUTE
9:33:53AM THAT RODEO TO HELP IMPROVE THE SKILLS OF FOLKS OUT THERE.
9:33:58AM WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.
9:34:00AM ON BEHALF OF CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP WE ARE GOING TO
9:34:04AM PROVIDE YOU WITH A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:34:06AM ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE, $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:34:10AM PRESTIGE PORTRAITS, FAMILY PORTRAIT.
9:34:13AM AND GIFT CERTIFICATE TO THE YMCA.
9:34:17AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:34:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHIEF LOCICERO, AND CAPTAIN, WE ARE VERY
9:34:39AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND CONTINUE TO DO.
9:34:43AM EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID ABOUT YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR
9:34:51AM EVERYTHING.
9:34:51AM >> THANK YOU.
9:34:53AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:34:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:57AM >> WOW, TOTALLY DIDN'T EXPECT THAT.
9:35:00AM I DID WRITE A FEW THINGS DOWN.
9:35:03AM DON'T WORRY.
9:35:04AM IT WILL BE SHORT.
9:35:07AM I JUST DON'T TRUST MYSELF.
9:35:13AM FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE A FEW PEOPLE.
9:35:17AM MAYOR BUCKHORN, WHO I DON'T SEE HERE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
9:35:21AM THANK HIM.
9:35:22AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING
9:35:27AM THIS RECOGNITION AWARD TO BE HEARD HERE TODAY.
9:35:30AM THANK YOU TO CHIEF LOCICERO FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE
9:35:35AM DEPARTMENT.
9:35:37AM THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPONSORS.
9:35:40AM COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED.
9:35:42AM THANK YOU.
9:35:45AM THANK YOU TO MY CREW FOR THE SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN ME
9:35:48AM FROM DAY ONE, AND PARTICULARLY WHO GOT THIS BALL ROLLING FOR
9:35:56AM MY RECOGNITION HERE TODAY.
9:35:58AM [NO ENCODER]
9:36:26AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:36:28AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS FAIR DEPARTMENT IS FULL OF MEN AND
9:36:30AM WOMEN WHO DO SO MANY GREAT THINGS BOTH ON DUTY AND ON THEIR
9:36:36AM OWN TIME.
9:36:37AM FOR ME TO BE RECOGNIZED BY MY PEERS, IT'S VERY HUMBLING AND
9:36:42AM APPRECIATED.
9:36:42AM SO I PROUDLY ACCEPT THIS AWARD.
9:36:51AM THANK YOU.
9:36:52AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
9:38:04AM COMMENDATION BEING PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:38:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TODAY I HAVE WITH ME GREG AND MICHELLE
9:38:28AM BAKER.
9:38:29AM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE FREQUENTED THE REFINERY IN
9:38:33AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, I CALL THEM PIONEERS, IN THAT HISTORIC
9:38:37AM NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE BACK IN 2010 OR SO, THEY OPENED AND
9:38:42AM REALLY CHANGED THE WHOLE SCENE UP THERE IN THE RESTAURANT
9:38:47AM BUSINESS.
9:38:50AM I CALL SEMINOLE HEIGHTS A DISTRICT OF CULINARY ART BECAUSE
9:38:53AM THERE'S FOOD IN THAT AREA THAT YOU CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE
9:38:56AM IN TAMPA AND SO MANY FOLKS COME FROM OUT OF TOWN TO VISIT
9:39:00AM THESE LOCATIONS.
9:39:01AM THEY HAVE WON NUMEROUS AWARD, HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED
9:39:03AM FINALISTS FOR THE JAMES BEARD AWARD WHICH IS HUGE FOR THOSE
9:39:07AM OF YOU THAT KNOW.
9:39:08AM I CALL IT LIKE THE OSCARS OF THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
9:39:12AM SO IT'S A BIG DEAL.
9:39:14AM AND IT'S BROUGHT A LOT OF POSITIVE ATTENTION TO THE CITY AND
9:39:17AM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:39:18AM AND MR. BAKER WILL SOON BE RETIRING, AND WE WANT TO GIVE
9:39:22AM THEM, HE AND MICHELLE, THIS COMMENDATION FOR THEIR MANY
9:39:27AM YEARS OF HARD WORK TO IMPROVE THIS AREA AND REALLY PUT
9:39:31AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IN A POSITIVE SPOTLIGHT.
9:39:33AM SO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THOSE ACCOMMODATION TO
9:39:36AM MICHELLE AND GREG BAKER FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING CULINARY
9:39:41AM CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY, OPENED IN 2010 IN HISTORIC
9:39:44AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND CHANGED THE CULINARY LANDSCAPE OF THE
9:39:47AM CITY, NOT ONLY HAVE THE BAKERS UPPED THE DINING EXPERIENCE
9:39:50AM IN TAMPA, THEY ARE ALSO KNOWN FOR RESURRECTING LOST FLORIDA
9:39:54AM INGREDIENTS AND COOKING TECHNIQUES AND ARE DEFENDERS OF FARM
9:39:58AM WORKER RIGHTS AND POLICY REFORM.
9:40:00AM WE ARE IMMENSELY PROUD OF ALL YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
9:40:05AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN
9:40:08AM THE FUTURE.
9:40:09AM YOU CONTINUE TO BE INVALUABLE LEADERS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND
9:40:11AM ASSET TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:40:13AM IT IS OUR HONOR TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON THE
9:40:16AM 31st DAY OF JANUARY 2019.
9:40:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:21AM >> I'M NOT EXACTLY THE MOST ELOQUENT PERSON IN THE WORLD SO
9:40:32AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN
9:40:37AM MANISCALCO.
9:40:39AM GREAT HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED.
9:40:42AM AND HOPE FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE
9:40:45AM COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE.
9:40:46AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:49AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:41:09AM MR. VIERA.
9:41:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:41:15AM WE HAVE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HERE TO
9:41:17AM SPEAK ON THE STATUS OF BUSCH BOULEVARD.
9:41:21AM WE THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
9:41:23AM >> MY NAME IS BRYAN SHOYER WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
9:42:00AM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENTAL OFFICE.
9:42:03AM I'M HERE TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION ON THE WEST BUSCH
9:42:07AM BOULEVARD CORRIDOR STUDY THAT HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE THE PAST
9:42:11AM ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.
9:42:15AM I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
9:42:23AM IS THERE A CLICKER THAT WE USE FOR NEXT OR SOMETHING?
9:42:30AM SORRY.
9:42:31AM THANK YOU.
9:42:33AM NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE.
9:42:35AM I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE A LOT OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND
9:42:38AM PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE ADVISORY GROUPS THAT WHEN PUT
9:42:41AM TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
9:42:46AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:42:50AM WE HAD CITY OF TAMPA, PLAN HILLSBOROUGH, HILLSBOROUGH
9:42:54AM COUNTY, BUSCH GARDENS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARDS
9:42:58AM WHICH INCLUDED THE TRANSPORTATION OFFICES AND PRINCIPALS
9:43:02AM ALSO HELPED OUT, FIRE RESCUE, AND HART.
9:43:07AM WE HAD SOME OTHERS, SIERRA CLUB MEMBERS, INNOVATION ALLIANCE
9:43:12AM AND TAMPA BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE INCLUDED IN OUR
9:43:14AM MEMBERSHIP.
9:43:16AM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
9:43:21AM LOOKING AT 3.3 MILES ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD, DALE MABRY OVER
9:43:25AM TO NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:43:27AM IT'S BOTH WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND UNINCORPORATED
9:43:32AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:43:33AM WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR STUDY, WE ALSO HAD A RESURFACING
9:43:37AM PROJECT THAT WAS IN BETWEEN ARMENIA AND FLORIDA AVENUE.
9:43:43AM THE RESURFACING PROJECT WAS GOING ON DESIGNED AT THE SAME
9:43:46AM TIME THE STUDY WAS HAPPENING.
9:43:51AM RESURFACING TO TAKE A AT EXISTING ISSUES AND SAFETY ISSUES
9:43:55AM AS WELL AS RESURFACING THE PAVEMENT.
9:44:01AM WHAT WE DID DURING THE STUDY, WE HAD AN INNOVATIVE PROJECT
9:44:04AM HERE, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ONLY JUST A CORRIDOR STUDY, IT
9:44:08AM INVOLVED A RESURFACING PROJECT AND AFTER THE STUDY WAS
9:44:12AM COMPLETED INVOLVED ON THE DESIGN THAT WAS AN URBAN CORRIDOR
9:44:15AM IMPROVEMENT DESIGN THAT WE TAKE WHAT HAPPENED AND WE FOUND
9:44:19AM OUT DURING THE STUDY AND CREATE DESIGN AND MOVED TOWARDS
9:44:22AM CONSTRUCTION.
9:44:26AM USED SOME INNOVATION PUBLIC OUTREACH LIKE THE PROJECT
9:44:30AM WEBSITE, SOME SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAD A WEB MAP THAT WOULD
9:44:35AM ALLOW USERS TO GO IN AND LEAVE COMMENTS AS TO SPECIFIC
9:44:38AM LOCATIONS, AND IT HELPED OUT IMMENSELY.
9:44:41AM WE CREATED WORKSHOPS AND PROJECT ADVISORY GROUPS THAT
9:44:45AM PROVIDED INFORMATION FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS IN
9:44:48AM THE AREA ABOUT THE ISSUES ON THE ROADWAY AND WHAT THEY WOULD
9:44:52AM LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN TO THE ROAD.
9:44:54AM THESE HELPED CREATE THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE DEVELOPED AS
9:44:58AM PART OF THE STUDY AND MOVE INTO DESIGN.
9:45:03AM WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES ON SAFETY, AND THAT WAS WHAT REALLY
9:45:06AM CAME OUT WITH THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
9:45:08AM SO WE TRIED TO PUSH THE CHANGES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT
9:45:14AM DOING OUT THERE, TRYING TO MAKE THIS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF
9:45:19AM ROADWAY ADDRESS A LOT OF ISSUES SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY
9:45:22AM SCHOOLS AND PEDESTRIAN OUT THERE.
9:45:26AM EXCUSE ME.
9:45:26AM WE STARTED WITH A FIELD REVIEW.
9:45:28AM WE WENT OUT AND WALKED THE CORRIDOR, LOOKED AT THE ISSUES,
9:45:31AM AND WHAT WE MAINLY SAW WAS THE SECTION BETWEEN ARMENIA AND
9:45:35AM FLORIDA, HAD SOME SIDEWALKS OUT THERE THAT WERE RAISED AND
9:45:42AM SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS.
9:45:43AM WE LOOKED AT THE SIDEWALK APP ISSUES, SAW THERE WERE NO BIKE
9:45:47AM LANES ALONG THE WHOLE CORRIDOR, AND THERE WAS NO MID BLOCK
9:45:50AM CROSSINGS FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE TRAFFIC OUT
9:45:53AM THERE, AND LONG DISTANCES IN BETWEEN.
9:45:56AM SO WE TOOK THAT AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE CRASH DATA LONG
9:46:00AM THE CORRIDOR.
9:46:03AM IT'S HEAVILY TRAVELED.
9:46:04AM IT'S A MAJOR EAST-WEST CORRIDOR THAT'S BEING USED FOR A LOT
9:46:07AM OF COMMUTERS.
9:46:12AM YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAPHIC HERE THE LOCATIONS AND CRASHES
9:46:17AM TEND TO BE AT DALE MABRY, NORTHDALE, NORTH BOULEVARD.
9:46:22AM BUSCH BOULEVARD IS NUMBER 4 ON THE TOP SEVERE CORRIDORS, AND
9:46:27AM THEY RECENTLY HAD A SCHOOL SAFETY STUDY AND CHAMBERLAIN WAS
9:46:32AM THE NUMBER ONE LOCATION OF ISSUES OF SAFETY THEY FOUND OUT
9:46:35AM THERE.
9:46:39AM THE CORRIDOR HAS THREE BUS ROUTES THAT RUN ALONG THE
9:46:42AM CORRIDOR.
9:46:43AM 15 STOPS SHOWING ALONG THE CORRIDOR ALSO.
9:46:48AM IT HAS A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN THROUGH THERE.
9:46:52AM A LOT OF MAJOR PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS ARE NORTH-SOUTH ACROSS
9:46:55AM THE CORRIDOR AT NORTH BOULEVARD WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE
9:46:59AM LOCATED.
9:46:59AM SO WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES AND
9:47:03AM WANTED TO REALLY ADDRESS THOSE.
9:47:06AM BICYCLE TRAFFIC WAS THE SAME.
9:47:08AM A LOT OF SCHOOLS, STUDENTS RIDING THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL.
9:47:12AM WE LOOKED TO THAT INFORMATION TOO AND SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS
9:47:15AM IT.
9:47:17AM NO BIKE LANES, WHAT FEATURES DO WE NEED TO ADD OUT THERE?
9:47:27AM AS I SAID, IF FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THE PUBLIC AND
9:47:30AM STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROJECT REVIEW THAT WE HAD, SAFETY WAS
9:47:34AM THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
9:47:35AM ALONG WITH MULTIMODAL ACCESS.
9:47:38AM THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT CHANGES COULD BE ENACTED OUT THERE.
9:47:41AM SO WE HAVE TAKEN THAT ALONG WITH THE MAPPING TO FIND OUT
9:47:46AM WHERE THESE EXACT LOCATIONS ARE HAVING ISSUES, AND WE TRIED
9:47:49AM TO FORM SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT WILL ADDRESS ISSUES IN THE
9:47:53AM SHORT TERM AND ALSO WHAT CAN BE DONE IN LONG-TERM TO ADDRESS
9:47:57AM TRAFFIC CONGESTION OUT THERE.
9:48:03AM SO RIGHT NOW, PRIOR TO EVEN GETTING THE RESURFACING PROJECT
9:48:06AM OUT, OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS OFFICE HAS DONE SOME WORK OUT
9:48:13AM THERE.
9:48:13AM THEY HAVE TAKEN THE SIGNAL AT NORTH BOULEVARD AND BUSCH
9:48:17AM WHERE THE CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL IS.
9:48:23AM THEY HAVE CHANGED THE SIGNAL TIME FOR THE NORTHBOUND
9:48:26AM SOUTHBOUND DRIVERS.
9:48:27AM THEY HAVE EXTENDED THE WALK TIME FOR THE CROSSING FOR THE
9:48:32AM PEDESTRIANS AT THE SCHOOL AND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE
9:48:33AM LETTING IN AND LETTING OUT OF THE SCHOOLS ALSO.
9:48:38AM SPEED EDUCATION ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH LAW
9:48:43AM ENFORCEMENT TO BE OUT THERE A LITTLE MORE PRESENT TO ENFORCE
9:48:46AM THE SPEED OUT THERE.
9:48:47AM THAT WILL BE COMING SOMETIME IN MARCH WE ARE LOOKING AT.
9:48:53AM SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLACED OUT THERE.
9:48:56AM EITHER SIDE OF ARMENIA AVENUE.
9:48:57AM ABOUT 425 FEET EAST OR WEST.
9:49:01AM THOSE WILL LET THE DRIVERS KNOW WHAT SPEED THEY ARE GOING,
9:49:04AM IF THEY TEND TO GO OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, TO START TO TELL
9:49:07AM THEM TO SLOW DOWN, HELPS TO IDENTIFY AND BRING IT TO PEOPLE
9:49:11AM TO THOSE THAT ARE SPEEDING.
9:49:12AM THE LIGHTING HAS BEEN UPDATED AT NORTH BOULEVARD ALSO.
9:49:16AM IT'S BEEN UPDATED FROM LED WHICH IS A LOT BRIGHTER LIGHT OUT
9:49:22AM THERE.
9:49:22AM AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT CONTINUING OTHER LOCATIONS ALONG
9:49:28AM BUSCH BOULEVARD WITH LIGHTING.
9:49:29AM ALSO WITH THE SCHOOLS, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EDUCATIONAL
9:49:31AM TRAINING OUT THERE RECENTLY, JANUARY 15th THE TEAM SAFE
9:49:35AM DRIVING PROGRAM WAS THERE TALKING WITH STUDENTS AT THE
9:49:38AM SCHOOL, AND THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY
9:49:40AM WILL BE PRESENTING INFORMATION TO THE STUDENTS TO HELP THEM
9:49:43AM WITH CROSSING THE ROADWAY AND PEDESTRIAN WALKING AND DRIVING
9:49:49AM AS THEY ARE GETTING THAT AGE.
9:49:51AM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ENACTED RIGHT NOW.
9:49:55AM WHAT WE ARE ALSO DOING IS THE 3-R PROJECT THAT WILL BE
9:49:58AM STARTING CONSTRUCTION LATE SPRING.
9:50:00AM THEY ARE GOING TO ADDRESS RESURFACING AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT
9:50:03AM ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED NOW.
9:50:06AM WE HAVE A SECOND DESIGN THAT IS BEING SCOPED RIGHT NOW.
9:50:10AM IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE ALTERNATIVE FROM THE CORRIDOR STUDY
9:50:13AM AND LOOKING AT HOW TO REALLY ENACT THAT DESIGN TO MEET ALL
9:50:16AM THE NEEDS OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THE
9:50:19AM STUDY.
9:50:20AM THAT DESIGN IS FUNDED, AS I SAY WE ARE SCOPING IT NOW.
9:50:24AM CONSTRUCTION IS NOT FUNDED.
9:50:26AM ONCE WE HAVE A GOOD CONCEPT OF WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
9:50:28AM WILL BE, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT FUNDING FOR THAT.
9:50:32AM THAT PROJECT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT WILL BE FROM DALE
9:50:37AM MABRY TO NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:50:40AM THAT'S NUMBER 10 ON THE MPO PRIORITY RIGHT NOW.
9:50:44AM OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME ARE
9:50:46AM ARMENIA, INTERSECTION AT BUSCH IS BEING REDONE, AND THAT'S A
9:50:51AM CITY OF TAMPA JOB.
9:50:52AM FLORIDA AVENUE HAS SOME RAIL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, AND DUAL
9:50:58AM LEFT TURNS ARE BEING LOOKED AT TO ACCESS NORTHBOUND AND
9:51:03AM SOUTHBOUND I-275.
9:51:05AM SO THEY ARE ADDING ONE ADDITIONAL LEFT TURN LANE AT EACH ONE
9:51:09AM OF THOSE RAMPS.
9:51:09AM THAT'S IN THE FUTURE.
9:51:10AM WE ARE WAITING ON FUNDING ISSUES WITH THAT ONE.
9:51:13AM THEN INNOVATION RELIANCE HAS SOME INNOVATION GATEWAY
9:51:17AM PROJECTS UNDERNEATH 275.
9:51:22AM I'M A LITTLE BEHIND HERE.
9:51:27AM SO THIS NEW DESIGN THAT WILL BE STARTING FROM DALE MABRY TO
9:51:30AM NEBRASKA IS URBAN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
9:51:34AM LIKE I SAID, WE SAW DURING OUR FIELD REVIEWS, THERE WERE
9:51:38AM SIDEWALK APPS SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ACQUIRING RIGHT-OF-WAY TO
9:51:42AM FILL IN THOSE SIDEWALK APPS.
9:51:44AM THE FIVE LANE SECTION, WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING THOSE
9:51:49AM MEDIAN ACCESSES TO ADD MEDIAN ISLANDS -- ISLANDS.
9:51:54AM THEY HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH USING IT AS A MEDIAN LANE
9:51:58AM INSTEAD OF A TURN LANE.
9:51:59AM WE LOOK AT PROPOSING A SIGNALIZED CROSSWALK AT NORTH ROME
9:52:04AM CIRCLE.
9:52:04AM THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND THAT WILL HELP
9:52:06AM BREAK UP THE ROAD.
9:52:07AM IT'S ALONG LENGTH OF CROSSING THAT WILL BE NEEDED.
9:52:12AM WE HAVE ISSUES AT NORTH OLA SO WE ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE
9:52:17AM MAKING RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT AT NORTH OLA AND PUTTING A
9:52:21AM MEDIAN ISLAND TO SEPARATE THE LEFT TURNS THAT YOU HAVE AT
9:52:25AM EASTBOUND BUSCH BOULEVARD.
9:52:27AM SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE STUDY
9:52:29AM IS THERE'S A SIDEWALK GAP MISSING BY THE NORTH BOULEVARD AS
9:52:34AM IT GOES OVER THE TRACKS HEADING NORTH.
9:52:36AM WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO POSSIBLY ADD THAT INTO THE
9:52:41AM NEXT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT COULD ADDRESS THAT.
9:52:44AM FURTHER ALONG WEST BUSCH UNDERNEATH AND WEST OF DALE MABRY,
9:52:50AM THERE'S A SIDEWALK GAP SO WE NEED TO TALK WITH THE COUNTY ON
9:52:55AM ANOTHER PROJECT.
9:52:56AM AND SOME OF THE WORK THEY DO SIGNAL INTERCONNECT TO HELP
9:53:00AM MANAGE SPEED ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND HELP THE PEOPLE SO THEY
9:53:07AM AREN'T RACING TO THE NEXT LIGHT AND END UP STOPPING AND ADD
9:53:11AM TO THE CONGESTION.
9:53:16AM THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF ROADWAY CORRIDORS BROKEN UP INTO FOUR
9:53:19AM SECTIONS. SO DALE MABRY, ARMENIA AVENUE.
9:53:22AM AT THE TOP YOU CAN SEE EXISTING TYPICAL SECTION.
9:53:24AM WE HAVE CSX TRACK AND ON THE BOTTOM IS A TYPICAL SECTION
9:53:33AM THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE FOUND OUT THERE, AND
9:53:38AM HELPS WITH SPEED MANAGEMENT.
9:53:40AM WE ARE LOOKING AT REDUCING -- AND THE MEDIANS WHICH ARE LEFT
9:53:48AM TURNS AT SO OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.
9:53:51AM A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S COMING IN.
9:53:53AM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HELPING WITH THAT.
9:53:58AM THE NEXT SECTION NORTH ARMENIA BOULEVARD IS THE 5-LANE
9:54:03AM SECTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
9:54:05AM IT HAS THE SIDEWALK GAPS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
9:54:07AM WE ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
9:54:12AM IF WE CAN GET THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FILLING IN THE SIDEWALK.
9:54:15AM CHANGING THE TWO-LANE LEFT TURN LANE TO MEDIAN ISLANDS TO
9:54:20AM ADDRESS SOME PEOPLE TRAVELING INSTEAD OF USING IT AS A TURN
9:54:25AM LANE AND NARROWING LANES FOR SPEED MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
9:54:30AM THE THIRD SECTION IS NORTH BOULEVARD TO FLORIDA AVENUE, A
9:54:35AM SECTION THAT HEADS EAST PAST CHAMBERLAIN UP TO FLORIDA, AND
9:54:40AM WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING A SMALL TRAFFIC SEPARATOR ALONG THE
9:54:43AM CORRIDOR WHICH WITH THE HELP OF THAT LEFT TURN INTO NORTH
9:54:47AM OLA, THAT CONGESTION IS BLOCKING THE THROUGH TRAFFIC AS
9:54:53AM PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT.
9:54:55AM THAT ADDRESSES ALL THOSE ISSUES.
9:54:57AM THE LAST SECTION IS NORTH AVENUE -- NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE TO
9:55:00AM NORTH NEBRASKA WHICH RUNS UNDER 275.
9:55:06AM THEY ARE GOING TO ADD IN THE DUAL LEFTS IN THE FUTURE.
9:55:08AM SO ISN'T AN AWFUL LOT MORE THAT WE CAN DO THAN ADD SAFETY
9:55:13AM FEATURES AND HELP THEM OUT WITH THAT.
9:55:18AM THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THIS.
9:55:20AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
9:55:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DETAILED WORK
9:55:28AM AND COOPERATION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
9:55:31AM YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PARTNER WITH ME ON ISSUES LIKE BUSCH
9:55:34AM BOULEVARD AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
9:55:37AM WHAT I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE WITH WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD AND
9:55:41AM ALL OF WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD IS A SENSE OF URGENCY.
9:55:44AM IN THE YEAR 2010 AND 2016 THERE WERE ABOUT 120 SERIOUS
9:55:48AM CRASHES INCLUDING DEATHS, SERIOUS INJURIES IN THIS AREA.
9:55:53AM YOU SPOKE OF CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL.
9:55:55AM YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER CINDY
9:55:59AM STUART AND THE PRINCIPAL THERE TO TRY TO GET EDUCATION FOR
9:56:02AM STUDENTS IN TERMS OF USING CROSSWALKS, WORKING WITH THE CITY
9:56:05AM TO GET BETTER CROSSWALKS THERE FOR THE CHAMBERLAIN AREA.
9:56:09AM I THINK THE DEATH IN 2016 OF THE YOUNG WOMAN ALEXIS, WHOSE
9:56:18AM MOTHER HAS BEEN A GREAT ACTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE
9:56:22AM SAFETY PARTICULARLY IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING
9:56:23AM THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY PERSONAL TO HER.
9:56:25AM WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LARGER BUSCH AREA THE BIG
9:56:29AM CHALLENGE IS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO SERVE AS OUR GATEWAY TO ONE
9:56:32AM OF THE MOST INVIGORATING AND INNOVATIVE PARTS OF THE CITY OF
9:56:37AM TAMPA, THE BUSCH BOULEVARD AND FOWLER AREA WHERE YOU HAVE
9:56:40AM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, FLORIDA HOSPITAL, THE VA
9:56:44AM JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, MOFFITT, SHRINERS,
9:56:49AM ET CETERA, BUT YET IT SERVES AS A GATEWAY TO NEGLECT.
9:56:53AM BUSCH BOULEVARD IN PARTICULAR IS AN AREA THAT I REALLY
9:56:56AM BELIEVE HAS BEEN EFFECTIVELY ABANDONED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT
9:56:58AM OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
9:57:00AM FOWLER HAS RECEIVED SOME ATTENTION, WHICH IS MARVELOUS, BUT
9:57:04AM PROBABLY BECAUSE OF ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SOME OF THE
9:57:07AM STAKEHOLDERS BUT BUSCH BOULEVARD HAS BEEN JUST ABANDONED. I
9:57:10AM HAVE SEEN IT BECAUSE I GREW UP IN TEMPLE TERRACE.
9:57:13AM WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO TEMPLE TERRACE THAT WAS MY HANGOUT AS
9:57:17AM A KID.
9:57:17AM I WAS OUT AT BUSCH BOULEVARD A FEW DAYS AGO FOR AND THIS IS
9:57:22AM FURTHER AWAY FROM THE WEST BUSCH PART BUT I SAW WHERE ARE
9:57:26AM THE OLD SOUND SENSUOUS SOUNDS WHERE I USED TO BUY CDs FOR
9:57:34AM TEN DOLLARS.
9:57:34AM AND IT'S GONE.
9:57:35AM YOU HAVE STILL GOT THE SIGN THERE.
9:57:37AM THE KMART CLOSE TO THE TEMPLE TERRACE AND TEMPLE TERRACE
9:57:40AM ABANDONED.
9:57:41AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT, ET CETERA.
9:57:43AM BUT WE HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN THAT.
9:57:46AM BUSCH BOULEVARD HAS ALSO BECOME A SPEEDWAY.
9:57:49AM THE SPEED LIMIT IN MANY OF THOSE AREAS IS 45 MILES PER HOUR.
9:57:52AM PEOPLE GO A 55 AND MUCH HIGHER WHERE YOU HAVE SO MANY
9:57:56AM NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES FREQUENTED BY KID AND FAMILIES,
9:57:58AM IT'S A SPEEDWAY.
9:57:59AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DESIGN OCCUR IN CERTAIN SECTIONS SO WE
9:58:02AM CAN GET A LOWER SPEED LIMIT THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THE LOWER
9:58:06AM SPEED LIMITS OBVIOUSLY SAVE LIVES.
9:58:09AM AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.
9:58:12AM SOMETHING I WAS ALSO ENCOURAGED BY WAS AGAIN EDUCATION ON
9:58:16AM CROSSWALKS.
9:58:18AM CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL AGAIN, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE
9:58:21AM HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
9:58:23AM SOMETHING THAT REALLY SHOULD HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THIS AREA IS
9:58:26AM THE TRANSPORTATION MONEY.
9:58:29AM I WAS SUCH A STRONG SUPPORTER OF ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WHEN
9:58:33AM IT WAS COMING UP FOR A VOTE, BECAUSE OF AREAS LIKE BUSCH
9:58:38AM BOULEVARD.
9:58:38AM IT'S BECAUSE OF AREAS LIKE BUSCH BOULEVARD THAT WE PUSHED
9:58:42AM FOR ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
9:58:44AM AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN, AREAS THAT SERVE NOW
9:58:48AM GATEWAYS TO NEGLECT, AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN ABANDONED CAN NOW
9:58:51AM GET THE PROPER RESPECT AND FUNDING THAT THEY DESERVE.
9:58:54AM AND I THINK THAT CERTAINLY BUSCH BOULEVARD IS A REALLY,
9:58:56AM REALLY BIG PART OF THAT.
9:58:58AM SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.
9:59:01AM AND I ASKED YOU ALL TO COME HERE BECAUSE THIS IS AGAIN SUCH
9:59:04AM A HUGE PART OF OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY, AND YET ALWAYS GETS
9:59:08AM IGNORED.
9:59:09AM IT'S BECOME A REALLY ACUTE CRISIS FOR MANY FAMILIES OUT
9:59:16AM THERE WHO LIVE WITH THE CONSTANT SPEEDING, CONSTANT
9:59:18AM ABANDONMENT AND FRANKLY THE LACK OF RESPECT WHEN IT COMES TO
9:59:23AM FOLKS LIVING THERE.
9:59:23AM SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
9:59:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
9:59:29AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:59:30AM I'M IN THAT AREA A LOT.
9:59:32AM MY BROTHER HAS A BUSINESS ALONG THAT AREA WITH MY SISTER IN
9:59:36AM LAW ON BUSCH BOULEVARD.
9:59:38AM I HAVE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
9:59:39AM IT LOOKS LIKE -- AND OBVIOUSLY THIS STUDY WAS STARTED WHEN?
9:59:44AM >> 2017.
9:59:48AM SHORTLY AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
9:59:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HAS THERE BEEN AN ATTEMPT TO MAYBE REFRESH
9:59:53AM THIS AND RELOOK AT IT CONCERNING TRANSIT OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY
9:59:58AM AS MR. VIERA SAID, THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS?
10:00:02AM >> AS FAR AS --
10:00:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AS FAR AS THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD?
10:00:06AM AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE DOLLARS THAT WE
10:00:10AM HAVE TO SPEND FOR TRANSPORTATION.
10:00:15AM I SEE YOU ARE USING SOME OF THE MEDIAN AND TAKING OUT SOME
10:00:18AM OF THOSE TURN LANES THAT OPENED, AS I SAID, THEY HAVE
10:00:21AM BECOME, YOU KNOW, A SEPARATE LANE THAT PEOPLE TEND TO USE,
10:00:25AM AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN REDESIGN THE ROAD IN
10:00:28AM ORDER TO PROVIDE A DEDICATED LANE FOR TRANSIT.
10:00:31AM >> RIGHT.
10:00:33AM AND THIS SECTION OF BUSCH BOULEVARD IS A CORRIDOR AND SOME
10:00:39AM OF THE LANGUAGE BEHIND THAT IS --
10:00:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
10:00:43AM >> IT COULD BE WIDENED IN THIS CASE FOR TRANSIT.
10:00:47AM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE WIDENED FOR
10:00:50AM REGULAR TRAFFIC.
10:00:51AM BUT TRANSIT OPTIONS COULD BE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY USED IN
10:00:55AM THIS CORRIDOR.
10:00:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND THE REASON I AM ASKING IS BECAUSE YOU
10:00:58AM ARE TALKING ABOUT ACQUIRING PIECES OF LAND IN ORDER TO DO
10:01:03AM SOME SIDEWALKS.
10:01:04AM OBVIOUSLY, ACQUISITION COULD BE USED FOR SOME OF THE TRANSIT
10:01:09AM OPTIONS, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A DEDICATED LANE IT MAKES IT
10:01:13AM EASIER, I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF STOPS THAT
10:01:16AM ARE ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD.
10:01:18AM THERE'S A LOT OF USERS OF TRANSIT THERE.
10:01:22AM IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO GET AN EAST-TO-WEST, YOU
10:01:27AM KNOW, DIRECTION FOR THEM TO GO WHEREVER THEY ARE GOING, ABLE
10:01:30AM TO PROVIDE MORE BUSES, ADD A BUS RAPID TRANSIT AND GET
10:01:35AM FREQUENCY A LOT MORE ESPECIALLY WITH THE DOLLARS THAT ARE
10:01:38AM COMING IN.
10:01:38AM ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A WELL TRAVELED PLACE.
10:01:41AM YOU DO HAVE A SCHOOL THERE.
10:01:43AM YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES ALONG THAT AREA.
10:01:47AM IT WOULD BE, I THINK, HELPFUL IF WE START TO LOOK AT THAT.
10:01:50AM OBVIOUSLY, YOU STARTED THIS A YEAR AND A HALF, ALMOST TWO
10:01:55AM YEARS AGO.
10:01:56AM NOW THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED, I
10:01:58AM WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU PROBABLY GO BACK, DUST THESE OFF A
10:02:02AM LITTLE BIT, AND -- JUST KIDDING -- BUT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH
10:02:09AM HART AND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY IN ORDER TO TRY TO PUT SOME
10:02:12AM REAL EFFORTS TOWARDS TRANSIT.
10:02:14AM >> RIGHT.
10:02:16AM AND WHAT I DID SHOW IS THE NEAR-TERM THINGS THAT WE CAN
10:02:19AM ADDRESS AND THIS NEW DESIGN STARTING.
10:02:21AM WE DO HAVE LONG-TERM THAT LIKE I SAY WE INCORPORATE SOME
10:02:24AM TRANSIT FEATURES BY AN ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:02:27AM THAT WOULD TAKE SOME MORE PDD PROCESSES.
10:02:32AM SO IT ISN'T OUT OF OUR MIND.
10:02:35AM WE ARE HITTING STAGES OF IT NOW.
10:02:36AM AND WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE AS THEY COME.
10:02:38AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST HATE FOR YOU TO REENGINEER THE ROAD,
10:02:42AM THEN REENGINEER IT AGAIN, BECAUSE LONG-RANGE IS A LITTLE BIT
10:02:46AM DIFFERENT NOW BECAUSE WE DO HAVE DOLLARS.
10:02:49AM OR WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DOLLARS, I SHOULD SAY, INTO THE
10:02:52AM SYSTEM UNTIL IS COMPLETELY DONE WITH IT.
10:02:54AM BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK A LITTLE BIT QUICKER IN TERMS OF
10:02:57AM PROVIDING DOLLARS IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE
10:03:00AM PROJECTS THAT CAN REALLY REENGINEER THE ROAD AND DO
10:03:04AM SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WERE USED TO.
10:03:06AM I KNOW YOU ARE CONSTRAINED BY DOLLARS JUST AS MUCH AS WE ARE
10:03:11AM BUT NOW I THINK WE HAVE A LOT BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO
10:03:13AM COOPERATE WITH EACH OTHER AND TO REDESIGN THE ROAD TO
10:03:16AM PROVIDE ALL TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION AND NOT JUST -- YOU ARE
10:03:20AM NOT JUST SINGLE VEHICLES.
10:03:22AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:03:23AM I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES HERE.
10:03:26AM AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AT ALL THOSE
10:03:32AM MEMBER ENTITIES, HART, CITY, COUNTY, AND YOU ALL TRY TO
10:03:36AM FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS A BETTER ROAD.
10:03:38AM >> WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT.
10:03:40AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I KNOW YOU ARE.
10:03:41AM WE ALL ARE.
10:03:43AM THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
10:03:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE NEXT ITEM WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:03:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC
10:03:57AM COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
10:03:59AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET ON THE
10:04:01AM AGENDA AS A WORKSHOP, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO
10:04:05AM COMMENT AFTER EACH WORKSHOP ITEM.
10:04:07AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK LET'S SAY ON ITEM NUMBER 5, THE
10:04:10AM TIME TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM IS AT PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
10:04:14AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND IT IS
10:04:18AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
10:04:21AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
10:04:24AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
10:04:26AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
10:04:29AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
10:04:32AM THANK YOU.
10:04:32AM >> MENTEZMAT, TAMPA.
10:04:46AM JUST GENERAL WHITE CITIZENS OUT THERE, IT'S OKAY FOR BLACK
10:04:50AM PEOPLE TO DRESS LIKE THIS.
10:04:53AM WE ARE NOT TERRORISTS.
10:04:54AM WE ARE NOT GANGSTERS.
10:04:55AM WE ARE NOT THUGS.
10:04:57AM WE ARE NOT PEOPLE TO BE -- TO CALL THE POLICE ON AND ALL
10:05:00AM THESE OTHER THINGS.
10:05:01AM WE DRESS LIKE THIS IN THE SUMMERTIME AND THE WINTERTIME.
10:05:04AM WE DRESS LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE FEEL WE CAN DRESS LIKE THIS.
10:05:07AM THAT'S PART OF THE DECORUM.
10:05:09AM AND PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN'T ADDRESS SOMEONE
10:05:14AM PERSONALLY, WHERE DID WE EVER COME UP WITH THAT IDEA FROM?
10:05:19AM IT'S JUST A DICTATORIAL PROCESS.
10:05:28AM NOTHING MORE.
10:05:29AM NOTHING LESS.
10:05:29AM IF YOU COME TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR
10:05:32AM DISTRICT, CALL OUT YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, MAN OR WOMAN.
10:05:39AM HOW DO YOU DO SO?
10:05:40AM YOU ARE LIMITING PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL
10:05:43AM RIGHTS JUST TO HAVE THREE MINUTE CITIZENS WHO TAKE THREE
10:05:46AM MINUTES TO COME HERE AND SPEAK AND THEN YOU LIMIT THEM AT
10:05:48AM THAT.
10:05:49AM BUT I SAID IT BEFORE.
10:05:51AM I SAY IT AGAIN.
10:05:52AM AND I SAY IT RIGHT NOW.
10:05:54AM IT'S A STUPID RACIST SCARY CITY COUNCIL.
10:05:58AM EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU UP THERE.
10:05:59AM YOU COME HERE EVERY MONTH, MONTH AFTER MONTH, YOU GIVE
10:06:02AM POLICE AWARDS, FOR WHAT?
10:06:04AM NOTICING.
10:06:06AM SOLVE SOME UNSOLVED MURDERS.
10:06:08AM SOLVE SOME OF THAT AND THEM COME DOWN HERE AND GIVE AN AWARD
10:06:11AM FOR THAT.
10:06:12AM YOU COME AND GIVE FIREFIGHTERS AWARDS FOR WHAT?
10:06:14AM NOTHING.
10:06:15AM ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOTHING.
10:06:17AM PEOPLE ON TAXPAYERS DOLLARS GET PAID AND THEY GET AN AWARD
10:06:22AM FOR THAT.
10:06:23AM GENERAL COMMON CITIZEN, MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD HAVE TO GET UP
10:06:26AM AND GO TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
10:06:29AM SOLVE SOME OF THE GENTRIFICATION FIRES THAT'S GOING ON WHERE
10:06:33AM THEY ARE BURNING BLACK PEOPLE OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE
10:06:36AM JUST HEARD THIS MAN CAME AND TALK FROM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
10:06:39AM TRANSPORTATION, AND WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT, A RACIST SITUATION
10:06:44AM FROM BUSCH AND NEBRASKA.
10:06:45AM HE WENT THE OTHER WAY BUT CITIZENS AND ALL THE VIOLATIONS
10:06:50AM TAKE PLACE GOING THE OTHER WAY THROUGH THE BLACK
10:06:53AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:06:55AM AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL ALLOWED.
10:06:56AM IT'S A STUPID RACIST CITY COUNCIL, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:06:59AM AND NOTHING GETS SOLVED AND NOTHING GETS RESOLVED.
10:07:02AM AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORDS
10:07:06AM EXTERMINATION --
10:07:08AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:07:09AM WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORDS GENOCIDE, WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORDS
10:07:16AM ETHNIC CLEANSING, WHEN YOU HEAR THOSE WORDS, APARTHEID, THEY
10:07:23AM ARE ASSAULTING WORD BUT THE WORDS THAT'S USED FOR AFRICAN
10:07:27AM PEOPLE TODAY IN 2019 IS GENTRIFICATION AND IT'S A NASTY WORD
10:07:31AM AND IT'S USED AGAINST US ALL THE TIME.
10:07:33AM AND THIS IS DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ALL START TO
10:07:37AM DOING SOMETHING.
10:07:38AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:07:40AM BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.
10:07:42AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:07:43AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK R. WILLIAMS, SR., PARADISE
10:07:56AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
10:07:58AM AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW ME QUITE WELL BECAUSE I COME DOWN
10:08:02AM HERE FREQUENTLY.
10:08:05AM AND I WANT TO ASK YOU ALL A QUESTION.
10:08:10AM I HAVE SOME SCRIPTURE HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BIBLE.
10:08:13AM CAN I READ THEM?
10:08:14AM >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
10:08:19AM >> OKAY.
10:08:20AM BECAUSE LAST TIME I COME HERE ONCE TO READ SOME SCRIPTURE
10:08:24AM YOU ALL TOLD ME I COULDN'T DO IT.
10:08:27AM I AM COMING DOWN TO THE BOOK OF PSALMS 37, IT SAYS:
10:08:32AM FRET NOT THYSELF BECAUSE OF EVILDOERS, NEITHER BE THOU
10:08:32AM ENVIOUS AGAINST THE WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
10:08:33AM FOR THEY SHALL SOON BE CUT DOWN LIKE THE GRASS, AND WITHER
10:08:33AM AS THE GREEN HERB.
10:08:33AM TRUST IN THE LORD, AND DO GOOD; SO SHALT THOU DWELL IN THE
10:08:33AM LAND, AND VERILY THOU SHALT BE FED.
10:08:33AM DELIGHT THYSELF ALSO IN THE LORD: AND HE SHALL GIVE THEE THE
10:08:33AM DESIRES OF THINE HEART.
10:08:33AM COMMIT THY WAY UNTO THE LORD; TRUST ALSO IN HIM; AND HE
10:08:33AM SHALL BRING IT TO PASS.
10:08:33AM AND HE SHALL BRING FORTH THY RIGHTEOUSNESS AS THE LIGHT, AND
10:08:33AM THY JUDGMENT AS THE NOONDAY.
10:08:33AM REST IN THE LORD, AND WAIT PATIENTLY FOR HIM: FRET NOT
10:08:33AM THYSELF BECAUSE OF HIM WHO PROSPERETH IN HIS WAY, BECAUSE OF
10:08:33AM THE MAN WHO BRINGETH WICKED DEVICES TO PASS.
10:08:33AM CEASE FROM ANGER, AND FORSAKE WRATH: FRET NOT THYSELF IN ANY
10:08:33AM WISE TO DO EVIL.
10:09:45AM THE REASON I AM READING THIS SCRIPTURE TO YOU IS BECAUSE WE
10:09:49AM ARE NOW HERE IN THE UNITED STATES 400 YEARS OF SLAVERY WHEN
10:09:54AM THEY BROUGHT SLAVES FROM AFRICA IN THE UNITED STATES, AND
10:09:58AM NEVER BEEN NO JUSTICE FOR BLACK MEN AND BLACK WOMEN AND
10:10:03AM CHILDREN.
10:10:03AM THINGS ARE STILL GOING ON THE SAME.
10:10:04AM IN FACT THEY ARE GETTING WORSE.
10:10:10AM PUT ON POLICE UNIFORMS AND BECAME JUDGES, LAWYERS, AND THEY
10:10:17AM THREATEN US ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES.
10:10:20AM WE GOT THE LORD ON OUR SIDE.
10:10:22AM I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST.
10:10:25AM THE ATHEIST JUST THE OTHER DAY, FIVE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN, ONLY
10:10:32AM BECAUSE HE'S AN ATHEIST.
10:10:35AM LET ME TELL YOU ALL SOMETHING.
10:10:37AM THERE'S A MAN THAT KILL A LOT OF PEOPLE AND HE WAS AN
10:10:42AM ATHEIST, AND -- I GOT TO TELL YOU IT'S BASICALLY A MURDER.
10:10:49AM IT'S KNOW IT THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST.
10:10:52AM THEY HATE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR HIS CREATION.
10:10:54AM AND THAT'S WHY I AM READING THIS SCRIPTURE TO YOU ALL.
10:10:58AM AND YOU ALL HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT BECAUSE GOD'S
10:11:01AM JUDGMENT IS GOING TO COME UPON ALL OF US ONE DAY SOONER OR
10:11:05AM LATER.
10:11:05AM WHEN I WALKED OUT HERE TODAY YOU ALL BETTER --
10:11:12AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:11:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC?
10:11:18AM ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME OF
10:11:20AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:11:21AM ALL RIGHT.
10:11:22AM SEEING NONE, WE GO TO STAFF REPORT.
10:11:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:11:36AM BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
10:11:44AM I WANT TO TALK THIS MORNING ON WATER AND WASTEWATER
10:11:47AM INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
10:11:51AM I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
10:11:55AM OUR AGENDA TODAY, I HAVE A FEW INTRODUCTORY SLIDE AND I WILL
10:12:04AM GO THROUGH TO OBJECT THE -- TO OPEN THE PRESENTATION.
10:12:07AM THEN WE WILL FOLLOW THAT BY TALKING ABOUT THE WATER MASTER
10:12:11AM PLANS.
10:12:12AM AND THAT'S TWO WATER MASTER PLANS.
10:12:16AM AND THE DIRECTOR CHUCK WEBER WILL GO THROUGH THOSE.
10:12:19AM ONE IS A MASTER PLAN FOR THE PIPELINE SYSTEM.
10:12:22AM AND THE OTHER IS A MASTER PLAN FOR THE TREATMENT PLANT.
10:12:29AM CONE I HAVE TO MENTION THE SERENDIPITY AS YOU WERE SPEAKING
10:12:33AM THIS MORNING THERE WAS A HUGE WATER MAIN BREAK.
10:12:36AM NOT ONLY WAS I LATE THIS MORNING AND COUNCILMAN SUAREZ AS
10:12:39AM WELL, BUT I HAVE BEEN GETTING TEXTS AND CALLS AND ALL KIND
10:12:43AM OF THINGS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN STUCK OUTSIDE LITERALLY
10:12:46AM FOR HOURS GOING AROUND THE BLOCK EVER ARE.
10:12:48AM AND IT REALLY UNDERSCORES THE CRITICAL NATURE OF WHAT WE ARE
10:12:52AM DEALING WITH IN THE CITY.
10:12:54AM >> I TOO WAS STUCK IN THE TRAFFIC THIS MORNING AND JUST GOT
10:12:58AM HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO.
10:13:00AM BUT WE GOT HERE ON TIME.
10:13:06AM BUT THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS, WHICH
10:13:10AM IS ALSO THERE'S TWO MASTER PLANS, THE PIPELINE SYSTEM, AND
10:13:14AM THE TREATMENT PLANT.
10:13:16AM AND THEN THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED UP BY A PRESENTATION FROM OUR
10:13:21AM CFO SONYA LITTLE WHO WILL GO THROUGH BRIEF FUNDING SCENARIOS
10:13:27AM FOR CONSIDERATION.
10:13:29AM AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THAT WITH A QUESTION-AND-ANSWER
10:13:33AM PERIOD.
10:13:36AM I DON'T HAVE PICTURES OF THIS MORNING'S BREAK.
10:13:41AM SO I WILL PULL UP PICTURES FROM PREVIOUS BREAKS, BOTH ON THE
10:13:45AM WASTEWATER SIDE AND THE WATER SIDE.
10:13:48AM THE FIRST PICTURE IS A LARGE FORCE MAIN BREAK IN FRONT OF
10:13:53AM ONE OF OUR MASTER PUMPING STATIONS ON 131st AVENUE.
10:13:57AM THE SECOND PICTURE IS A TYPICAL WASTEWATER CAVE-IN.
10:14:01AM THIS ONE IS JUST NORTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON ARMENIA.
10:14:05AM AND YOU SEE THESE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:14:12AM THE NEXT IS OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES ARE ALSO ON
10:14:16AM THE INCREASE.
10:14:17AM EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THE ROME AVENUE MAIN BREAK LAST YEAR.
10:14:23AM THIS ROME AVENUE WAS SHUT DOWN FOR OVER A WEEK.
10:14:26AM WATER GOT INTO A FEW OF THE HOMES YOU SEE THERE.
10:14:29AM CAUSING SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.
10:14:31AM WE LOST MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER.
10:14:34AM THE SECOND PICTURE IS THE SAME WATER MAIN BREAK ON ROME
10:14:39AM AVENUE, AND THIS IS WHAT THE PIPE FAILURE LOOKS LIKE AFTER
10:14:44AM WE ARE ABLE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE HOLE.
10:14:53AM IT ACTUALLY WAS A BREAK THAT PROPAGATED FROM A FITTING THAT
10:15:00AM YOU SEE THERE RIGHT UNDER THE TELEPHONE POLE THAT WAS
10:15:03AM OVERTIGHTENED MAYBE 60, 70 YEARS.
10:15:07AM IT'S A 1950 PAPER LINE.
10:15:09AM SO IT WAS A WEAK SPOT IN THE PIPELINE SYSTEM AND THAT'S
10:15:13AM WHERE IT FAILED.
10:15:14AM THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS OUR TOTAL WATER AND WASTEWATER CIP
10:15:22AM NEEDS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, AND THAT'S SHOWN IN ORANGE, OR
10:15:30AM IN YELLOW ON YOUR PICTURE UP THERE.
10:15:35AM AND THEN THE BLUE SHOWS WHAT WE HAVE FUNDED STARTING IN 2016
10:15:42AM AND CAN FUND USING EXISTING AVAILABLE RESOURCES.
10:15:47AM OUR RESERVES.
10:15:49AM WHILE MAINTAINING RESERVES IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR INTERNAL
10:15:52AM POLICIES.
10:15:54AM AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A SPIKE THIS YEAR IN 20 IS IT,
10:15:58AM AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST MAJOR EXPENDITURE FOR CIP USING
10:16:04AM EXISTING RESERVES.
10:16:06AM AT THAT POINT WE ARE DOWN TO A LEVEL OF RESERVES FOR BOND
10:16:15AM COVERAGE AND EMERGENCIES.
10:16:16AM SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE GETTING DANGEROUSLY LOW, CONTINUE
10:16:22AM TO FALL FURTHER BEHIND AND THIS IS SIMPLY NOT SUSTAINABLE.
10:16:26AM AND MY LAST SLIDE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO CHUCK WEBER IS AN
10:16:32AM EXAMPLE, IF I CAN GET IT TO MOVE, OF THE COSTS OF DOING
10:16:36AM NOTHING.
10:16:37AM THIS HAPPENS TO BE A WASTEWATER EXAMPLE.
10:16:42AM IN THOSE THREE YEARS, THOSE ARE OUR REACTIVE COSTS TO
10:16:47AM RESPOND TO THE CAVE-INS THAT YOU SAW EARLIER, TO RESPOND TO
10:16:51AM WASTEWATER OVERFLOWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
10:16:58AM WITH YOU BUT THIS APPLIES TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
10:17:01AM REACTIVE COSTS CONTINUE TO RISE.
10:17:07AM THESE COSTS, AS THEY CONTINUE TO RISE, AND OUR RESERVES ARE
10:17:12AM MINIMIZED, IT EXPOSES US TO CONSENT ORDERS AND REDUCTION IN
10:17:17AM BOND RATES.
10:17:18AM THAT'S TWO OF THE BIGGEST COSTS OF DOING NOTHING.
10:17:22AM >>HARRY COHEN: ISN'T THERE ALSO AN ENVIRONMENTAL COST TO
10:17:27AM DOING NOTHING AS WELL?
10:17:30AM >>BRAD BAIRD: ABSOLUTELY.
10:17:31AM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS WOULD BE WASTEWATER OVERFLOWS
10:17:34AM ASSOCIATED WITH NUTRIENTS IN THE BAY THAT YOU HAVE SEEN WITH
10:17:37AM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
10:17:38AM >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
10:17:40AM SO THIS IS PROVERBIALLY, THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG
10:17:47AM BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY THE DOLLARS.
10:17:49AM FORGET ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT IS TOTALLY NOT RECOVERABLE,
10:17:54AM WHICH IS THE DUMPING OF WASTEWATER INTO THE BAY AND INTO OUR
10:17:59AM DRINKING WATER SUPPLY.
10:18:00AM I MEAN, THAT'S A MUCH LARGER UNQUANTIFIABLE COST, ISN'T IT?
10:18:06AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
10:18:07AM YES, IT IS.
10:18:08AM AND YES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS ARE NOT QUANTIFIABLE.
10:18:15AM THE PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER OF THE WATER GETTING
10:18:18AM INTO THE HOUSE THAT IS QUANTIFIABLE AND SIGNIFICANT
10:18:20AM ESPECIALLY TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
10:18:22AM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS WOULD BE FACTORED INTO WHAT THE
10:18:28AM CONSENT ORDER WOULD BE FROM OUR REGULATORS.
10:18:31AM >>HARRY COHEN: BUT DOING NOTHING IS NOT JUST A FINANCIAL
10:18:37AM COST, NOT JUST A RISK TO THE BOND RATING, IT'S ALSO A RISK
10:18:40AM TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRITY?
10:18:42AM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT.
10:18:43AM AND FINALLY, ON REACTIVE RESPONSES TEND TO COST ROUGHLY
10:18:50AM TWICE AS MUCH AS BEING PROACTIVE. AND THAT'S A BIG DEAL,
10:18:54AM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS THOSE COSTS GO UP, AND OUR RESERVES
10:19:01AM CONTINUE TO DROP, I THINK THAT UNDERSCORES THAT WE NEED TO
10:19:08AM TRY TO REPLACE AND REHABILITATE PIPELINES BEFORE THEY START
10:19:13AM CAVING IN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY START FAILING, AND WATER
10:19:20AM MAIN BREAKS.
10:19:21AM WE NEED TO CATCH UP AND BECOME MORE PROACTIVE WHICH WILL
10:19:24AM HELP.
10:19:25AM BUT THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE ARE BOTH
10:19:28AM CATCHING UP AND REACTING UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT TO WHERE
10:19:32AM WE ARE STARTING TO GET CAUGHT UP AND CAN GET AHEAD.
10:19:36AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BRAD, THE GRAPHIC BEFORE, I JUST WANT TO
10:19:41AM MAKE SURE THAT I AM CORRECT ABOUT THIS.
10:19:44AM YOU HAVE GOT THE BLUE SYMBOL HERE THAT SAYS AVAILABLE FOR
10:19:48AM CAPITAL PROJECTS AT EXISTING RATES.
10:19:51AM AND THEN YOU ALSO WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RESERVES.
10:19:54AM DOES THAT NUMBER INCLUDE THE RESERVES THAT YOU ARE SHOWING
10:19:56AM HERE OR NOT?
10:19:58AM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT INCLUDES -- THE BLUE INCLUDES AVAILABLE
10:20:01AM RESERVES TO GET DOWN TO THE MINIMUM THAT WE HAVE IN OUR
10:20:04AM POLICIES.
10:20:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS
10:20:09AM RIGHT.
10:20:09AM SO YOU HAVE A 2019 NUMBER THAT'S CLOSE TO 100 MILLION,
10:20:14AM RIGHT?
10:20:15AM AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS RESERVE OF PART OF THAT?
10:20:18AM >> THE MAJORITY OF IT, AND SONYA MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT
10:20:24AM ALLEGES LATER AS TO HOW MUCH THAT IS.
10:20:29AM OUR TYPICAL CIP PROGRAM FOR EACH DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN, I
10:20:34AM BELIEVE, 10 TO 15 MILLION RANGE.
10:20:37AM SO THAT WOULD BE 30 MILLION OUT OF THAT 100 MILLION WOULD
10:20:41AM NOT BE IN RESERVES.
10:20:45AM AND DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT.
10:20:47AM THAT'S GOING BY MEMORY.
10:20:49AM BUT THAT WOULD TAKE ROUGHLY 35 MILLION IN RESERVES IN EACH
10:20:53AM DEPARTMENT, BACK DOWN TO THE --
10:20:57AM >> I CAN'T HOLD YOU TO THAT?
10:20:58AM YOU JUST SAID IT ON TV.
10:21:01AM (LAUGHTER).
10:21:02AM >> I WILL TRY TO VERIFY THAT.
10:21:03AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE A
10:21:08AM LITTLE CONFUSING IN CAPITAL COSTS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT USING
10:21:11AM RESERVES TOTALLY FOR CAPITAL COSTS.
10:21:13AM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT.
10:21:14AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A LITTLE
10:21:17AM CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT
10:21:19AM THINGS, BUT ABOUT THE CAPITAL COSTS THEMSELVES, RESERVES ARE
10:21:22AM IMPORTANT IN ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE TO DO THE THINGS
10:21:25AM WITHIN THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN ORDER TO GET SOME DOLLARS OUT
10:21:29AM THERE.
10:21:29AM BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MOPES THAT ARE USED DIRECTLY FOR
10:21:33AM ALL THE TIME.
10:21:33AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.
10:21:35AM AND MY POINT ON THIS SLIDE WAS ITS OUR LAST HOORAH THAT USES
10:21:41AM A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF THOSE RESERVES.
10:21:44AM WHERE WE GET INTO THE POINT WHERE THE EXPENDITURES ARE BACK
10:21:49AM TO THE USUAL CIP.
10:21:51AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TERRIFIC.
10:21:55AM THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE
10:21:58AM CONFUSED.
10:21:59AM >>BRAD BAIRD: AND THIS IS AVAILABLE RESERVES.
10:22:03AM AVAILABLE RESERVES.
10:22:05AM SO SONYA JUST GAVE ME SOME UPDATED NUMBERS WHICH I WAS OFF
10:22:09AM ON.
10:22:09AM SO WASTEWATER HAD AVAILABLE RESERVES OF 39 MILLION.
10:22:13AM WATER HAS 50 MILLION.
10:22:16AM SO IT MAKES UP A LARGER PORTION OF THAT SPIKE THAN I
10:22:21AM PREVIOUSLY SAID.
10:22:28AM SO I WILL WRAP THIS UP.
10:22:29AM BASICALLY, WE NEED TO START TO CATCH UP, BECOME MORE
10:22:33AM PROACTIVE.
10:22:34AM THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY.
10:22:35AM AND IT'S GETTING WORSE EVERY YEAR.
10:22:37AM WHAT WE EXPERIENCED THIS MORNING IS GOING TO HAPPEN MORE AND
10:22:41AM MORE OFTEN.
10:22:43AM YOU IS A YOU THE ONE DOWNTOWN THAT CREATED GRIDLOCK, THE
10:22:47AM WATER MAIN BREAK DOWNTOWN.
10:22:49AM BUT WE HAVE 30 BREAKS AROUND THE CITY RIGHT NOW IN VARIOUS
10:22:54AM STAGES OF REPAIR AND RESTORATION THAT WE ARE NURSING, IF YOU
10:22:58AM WILL.
10:22:59AM SO THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE.
10:23:03AM CHUCK AND ERIC BOTH HAVE MORE DETAILED NUMBERS LATER IN THE
10:23:06AM PRESENTATION.
10:23:08AM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CHUCK WEBER.
10:23:12AM >> CHUCK WEBER, WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
10:23:25AM IF I CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.
10:23:27AM GOING THE WRONG WAY.
10:23:34AM AS BRAD MENTIONED WE DID TWO MASTER PLANS STARTING JUST A
10:23:37AM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
10:23:38AM WE STARTED A PROCESS.
10:23:41AM ONE FOR THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY AND THE OTHER FOR THE
10:23:44AM DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
10:23:46AM FOR THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY, THE PROCESS STARTED WITH A
10:23:50AM DETAILED ASSESSMENT OF THOUSANDS OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT,
10:23:54AM EVALUATIONS OF OUR TREATMENT PROCESSES.
10:23:57AM WHEN DID BENCHMARKING TO LOOK AT HOW WELL WE WERE DOING WITH
10:24:00AM OUR TREATMENT FACILITY AS COMPARED TO OTHER SIMILAR
10:24:04AM TREATMENT FACILITIES IN THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE
10:24:06AM COUNTRY.
10:24:07AM WE WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE, ARE WE GETTING THE MOST OUT OF
10:24:10AM WHAT WE HAVE?
10:24:12AM SO AFTER EVALUATING ALL THAT, WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT
10:24:15AM ALTERNATIVES FOR REPAIRING AND REPLACING INFRASTRUCTURE AS
10:24:21AM WELL AS EXPANDING THE PLANT TO DEAL WITH ADDITIONAL DEMAND
10:24:26AM IN THE FUTURE.
10:24:28AM SO WE IDENTIFIED OUR NEEDS.
10:24:30AM WE PRIORITIZED THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
10:24:32AM WE DEVELOPED CONSTRUCTION PHASING AND COST ESTIMATES.
10:24:40AM THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CAPACITY OF THE DRINKING WATER
10:24:44AM TREATMENT PLANT.
10:24:44AM RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE RANGE OF ABOUT 110 TO 115 MILLION
10:24:49AM GALLONS PER DAY.
10:24:50AM AND IN 2032 WE ARE GOING TO NEED ROUGHLY 134, AND REALLY IN
10:24:57AM 2040 ARE GOING TO NEED SOMETHING CLOSE TO 140 MILLION
10:25:00AM GALLONS A DAY.
10:25:01AM SO WE DEFINITELY NOTICED TO EXPAND THE FACILITY AS WELL AS
10:25:06AM REPLACE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:25:12AM THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE APPROACH TO THE MASTER PLANNING FOR THE
10:25:15AM DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
10:25:17AM THE PIPES ARE BURIED AND YOU CAN'T GET TO SO HOW WE
10:25:24AM APPROACHED IT WAS LOOKING AT THE PROBABILITY OF FAILURE
10:25:26AM WHICH INCLUDES THE NUMBER OF BREAKS THAT WE HAD ON EACH
10:25:30AM SEGMENT OF PIPE, THE REMAINING LIFE, AND EACH SEGMENT OF
10:25:33AM PIPE AND THE TYPE OF SOIL THAT THOSE PIPES ARE IN.
10:25:36AM THE PERCENTAGE NUMBERS THERE SHOW THE WEIGHT OF EACH OF
10:25:45AM THOSE FACTORS IN THAT CATEGORY.
10:25:47AM WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE.
10:25:49AM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A PIPE FAILED GOING TO A HOSPITAL?
10:25:53AM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT FAILED WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF
10:25:57AM POPULATION DENSITY?
10:25:59AM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT HAPPENED UNDER A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE?
10:26:03AM SO ALL THOSE FACTORS WENT INTO EVALUATING EACH SEGMENT OF
10:26:07AM PIPE IN OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND DETERMINING WHEN THEY
10:26:10AM NEED TO BE REPLACED AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD TAKE TO REPLACE
10:26:13AM EACH SEGMENT OF PIPE.
10:26:14AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHUCK, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAILURE AND
10:26:21AM REMAINING LIFE AND AGGRESSIVE SOIL AREA, WHAT DO YOU TALK
10:26:26AM ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BREAKS ON INDIVIDUAL PIPES?
10:26:28AM MEANING THE AGE OF THE PIPE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT IN
10:26:31AM PARTICULAR AREAS, AND THE PROBABILITY OF FAILURE BECAUSE OF
10:26:33AM THEIR AGE?
10:26:34AM >> WELL, THERE ARE THREE FACTORS TO CONSIDER.
10:26:38AM THE NUMBER OF BREAKS.
10:26:39AM SO EVERY TIME A MAIN BREAKS, WE LOG IT, WE RECORD IT.
10:26:42AM SO WE KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE THE MAIN BREAK OWN A
10:26:45AM SECTION OF PIPE AND THE LENGTH OF TIME BETWEEN EACH MAIN
10:26:48AM BREAK.
10:26:48AM SO THAT'S ONE FACTOR WE LOOK AT.
10:26:51AM THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THE AGE OF THE PIPE, BECAUSE AGE IS
10:26:55AM ANOTHER FACTOR IN WHETHER OR NOT A PIPE IS GOING TO FAIL.
10:27:00AM I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE LATER ON THAT I WANT TO SHOW THAT
10:27:03AM REALLY ADDRESSES THE AGE OF PIPE IN OUR SYSTEM.
10:27:06AM I THINK IT WILL ADDRESS THAT FACTOR.
10:27:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, COULD YOU SAY THE FIRST PART OF IT
10:27:11AM AGAIN?
10:27:12AM BECAUSE I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
10:27:14AM THERE.
10:27:15AM >> WHEN WE HAVE A MAIN BREAK, WE RECORD IT.
10:27:18AM AND WE KNOW WHAT SEGMENT OF PIPE IT'S ON.
10:27:20AM SO OVER TIME WE CAN MEASURE THE NUMBER OF BRAIN BREAKS ON
10:27:24AM EACH SEGMENT OF PIPE.
10:27:25AM AND THE SEGMENT OF PIPES THAT HAVE MORE MAIN BREAKS ON THEM
10:27:28AM IN A SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME ARE MORE LIKELY TO FAIL.
10:27:31AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NOW WHY IS THAT?
10:27:34AM WHAT'S THE FACTORS THAT YOU BASE ON THAT?
10:27:37AM IS NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A MAIN BREAK.
10:27:38AM IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF AGE.
10:27:40AM BUT WHAT IF IT'S A NEWER PIPE?
10:27:42AM WHAT MAKES THAT DETERMINATION?
10:27:44AM I GUESS I AM CONFUSED BY THAT.
10:27:45AM >> BASICALLY, NOW, IF YOUR HISTORY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE HAVING
10:27:49AM A LARGE NUMBER OF MAIN BREAKS ON A SEGMENT OF PIPE THE
10:27:53AM LIKELIHOOD OF HAVING A LARGE NUMBER OF BREAKS ON THAT PIPE
10:27:55AM MOVING FORWARD STATISTICALLY SHOWS IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER.
10:27:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BUT IS IT WATER PRESSURE OR SNOWING WHAT
10:28:02AM ELSE?
10:28:03AM >> THE OTHER REASONS?
10:28:04AM THE MAIN BREAK THAT BRAD SHOWED EARLIER ON ROME, FOR
10:28:07AM INSTANCE, THE MEGA LUG FITTING.
10:28:12AM IF IT HADN'T BEEN OVERTIGHTENED, AND CAUSED A MICROCRACK
10:28:15AM THAT OVER TIME EXPANDED, THAT COULD HAVE.
10:28:17AM SO IF YOU HAVE A LOT -- A SEGMENT OF PIPE THAT WAS PUT IN AT
10:28:21AM THE SAME TIME THAT HAD A LOT OF THOSE SAME MEGA LUGS THAT
10:28:26AM WERE OVERTIGHTENED, THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT FAILURE IS
10:28:27AM GREATER.
10:28:30AM >> THE WAY YOU SAID IT, IT SEEMED LIKE A CIRCULAR ARGUMENT
10:28:34AM AND I WASN'T GETTING WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY.
10:28:37AM SO I APPRECIATE YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
10:28:39AM AND ON THE REMAINING LIFE WHEN YOU SAY 45%, THAT MEANS THAT
10:28:43AM THE PIPE THAT IS LESS THAN 30 YEARS OLD, 40 YEARS OLD, WHAT
10:28:48AM ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
10:28:50AM >> THE 45% REPRESENTS THE WEIGHTING FACTOR OF THOSE THREE
10:28:53AM CRITERIAS FOR PROBABILITY FAILURE.
10:28:56AM SO THERE WAS 45 FOR AGE, 45 FOR THE NUMBER OF BREAKS, AND
10:29:04AM THE AGGRESSIVE SOIL MADE UP 10.
10:29:06AM SO THAT'S 100%.
10:29:08AM >> SHIFTS IN SOIL CAN CAUSE THE WATER MAIN BREAK BECAUSE
10:29:12AM IT'S NOT STABLE ANYMORE?
10:29:13AM >> WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE ACIDIC SOIL, IT CAN BE AGGRESSIVE AND
10:29:18AM YOU HAVE A LOT OF CRACKS ON THE PIPES --
10:29:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I GET IT.
10:29:24AM SO THE ACIDITY IN SOIL, NOT NECESSARILY THE MOVEMENT IN
10:29:27AM SOIL.
10:29:28AM IT CAN BE THAT BUT NOT NECESSARILY THAT.
10:29:30AM >> IT CAN BE MOVEMENT OF SOIL AS WELL.
10:29:32AM THE CORROSIVENESS OF THE SOIL PLAYS A LARGER FACTOR.
10:29:36AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE IT.
10:29:39AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:29:40AM >> THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, THIS SLIDE HAS A LOT OF STATISTICS
10:29:45AM ON IT.
10:29:45AM BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON IS ALL THESE BLUE LINES
10:29:51AM REPRESENT PIPELINES AND THEY ARE ALL IN OUR STREETS
10:29:55AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:29:56AM THE LAST STATISTIC IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I THINK ON
10:29:59AM THIS SLIDE.
10:30:00AM 98% OF IT YOU CAN'T SEE.
10:30:01AM IT'S BURIED.
10:30:02AM AND SO IF WE REPLACE THIS YOU AREN'T GOING TO SEE MUCH OF A
10:30:08AM DIFFERENCE AND IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY TO REPLACE
10:30:10AM OUR PIPES.
10:30:11AM I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT.
10:30:13AM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ABOVE GROUND. THIS IS ALL
10:30:15AM SOMETHING YOU CAN'T SEE.
10:30:18AM ANOTHER INTERESTING THING TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE YOU
10:30:21AM TAKE ALL THE PIPES AND STRETCH THEM OUT IT'S FROM HERE TO
10:30:25AM CALIFORNIA.
10:30:26AM IT'S A LOT OF PIPES.
10:30:35AM THIS SLIDE, I REFERRED YOU EARLIER TO THE AGE OF THE PIPE.
10:30:39AM AND THIS IS REALLY WHY WE ARE START DOING SEE A SPIKE IN THE
10:30:42AM NUMBER OF MAIN BREAKS.
10:30:45AM IN THE 1940s WE STARTED PUTTING IN A LOT OF PIPE.
10:30:47AM THERE WAS A GROWTH BACK THEN.
10:30:49AM A LOT OF THE PIPE WAS CAST IRON PIPE.
10:30:51AM AND OUR CAST IRON PIPES BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF SOILS WE HAVE
10:30:54AM IT IN, IT'S GOING TO LAST 8 POSITIVE TO 100 YEARS.
10:30:58AM IF YOU PUT 80 YEARS ON TOP OF 1940, WE ARE AT THE BEGINNING
10:31:01AM OF THIS PROBLEM.
10:31:03AM SO WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING IT.
10:31:06AM AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GO A BE WAY NO DECADE OR TWO.
10:31:09AM ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS WE ARE NOT
10:31:12AM ALONE.
10:31:12AM THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES THAT
10:31:15AM ARE EXPERIENCING THIS SAME SITUATION.
10:31:20AM JUST TO KIND OF UNDERSCORE THE INCREASE WE ARE SEEING IN THE
10:31:23AM NUMBER OF MAIN BREAKS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
10:31:26AM THEY HAVE ROUGHLY DOUBLED.
10:31:29AM SO WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE MORE MAIN BREAKS LIKE ROME AND MORE
10:31:34AM MAIN BREAKS LIKE THE ONE THIS MORNING MORE FREQUENTLY FOR A
10:31:37AM LITTLE WHILE UNTIL WE GET ON TOP OF THIS.
10:31:41AM THE NEXT SLIDE KIND OF ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE LARGER
10:31:44AM PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE MASTER PLAN, THE TAMPA AUGMENTATION
10:31:50AM PROJECT.
10:31:51AM WHILE IT'S SIGNIFICANT, OVERALL IT REALLY JUST A SMALL PIECE
10:31:55AM OF THE NEEDS.
10:31:56AM THE PIPELINE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT IS ROUGHLY 500 MILES
10:32:00AM AND $672 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS.
10:32:04AM OUR PUMP STATIONS AT THE TREATMENT PLANT ARE STILL RUNNING
10:32:09AM THEIR ORIGINAL PUMPS.
10:32:10AM THEY ARE CLOSE TO 80 YEARS OLD WHICH IS A TESTAMENT TO THE
10:32:13AM MAINTENANCE THAT THE WORKERS HAVE DONE OVER THE DECADES TO
10:32:17AM KEEP PUMPS LIKE THAT RUNNING.
10:32:19AM BUT AT THIS POINT THERE ARE NO MANUFACTURERS FOR PARTS, SO
10:32:23AM ANYTIME THOSE PUMPS BREAK, WE HAVE TO BE CUSTOM MAKE THEM,
10:32:26AM WHICH IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN BUYING NEW PUMPS.
10:32:29AM SO AT THIS POINT THEY REACHED THE END OF LIFE.
10:32:31AM WE HAVE TO BUILD NEW PUMP STATIONS.
10:32:34AM THE OZONE SYSTEM WERE PUT IN RECENT BUT WEREN'T MADE TO LAST
10:32:41AM AS LONG AS PUMPS.
10:32:42AM THEY ARE ABOUT A 20-YEAR ITEM.
10:32:44AM SO WE ARE COMING UP TO END OF LIFE ON THE OZONE SYSTEM AND
10:32:47AM THAT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED.
10:32:50AM AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THERE'S AN EXPANSION COMPONENT TO
10:32:52AM INCREASE THE CAPACITY FROM 120 TO 140 MGD AND LOOKING AT ION
10:33:03AM EXCHANGE WHICH IS A TREATMENT PROCESS TO HELP US SAVE ON
10:33:05AM CHEMICAL COSTS BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER FOR
10:33:09AM TREATMENT PURPOSES.
10:33:14AM THIS NEXT SLIDE KIND OF SUMS UP THE TOTAL OF NEED BY
10:33:17AM CATEGORIZING THEM.
10:33:18AM BOTTOM LINE IS THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WE NEED ABOUT 1.5 BILLION
10:33:26AM DOLLARS IN INFRASTRUCTURE JUST FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
10:33:31AM SO WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ERIC WEISS.
10:33:39AM >>ERIC WEISS: WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
10:33:41AM YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.
10:33:44AM BECAUSE WE HAVE PUMPS AND PIPES AND TREATMENT PLANTS.
10:33:48AM SO WHAT MAKES UP THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT? WE DID A MASTER
10:33:52AM PLAN FOR THE HOWARD F. CURREN WASTEWATER PLANT.
10:33:56AM OUR OWN TREATMENT PLANT DOWN AT THE PORT.
10:33:58AM THEN WE DID A SEPARATE ONE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, WHICH IS THE
10:34:02AM 1700 MILES OF PIPE, 225 PUMPING STATIONS, 30,000 MANHOLES.
10:34:08AM THOSE ARE THE TWO MASTER PLANS THAT WE DID.
10:34:11AM IN THE FIRST ONE, AT THE TREATMENT PLANT.
10:34:13AM THE TREATMENT PLANT WAS ORIGINALLY CONGRESS INSTRUCTED IN
10:34:16AM THE EARLY 1950s, JUST A PRIMARY BASIC PLANT PLAN, BECAME
10:34:20AM AN ADVANCED PLAN IN THE 70s AND THE LAST MAJOR UPGRADE
10:34:23AM STARTED IN THE LATE 1980s TO INCREASE CAPACITY TO 96
10:34:31AM MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
10:34:32AM BUT THAT'S NOW 30 YEARS OLD.
10:34:35AM AND OUR BUSINESS IN WASTEWATER, WASTEWATER IS VERY
10:34:38AM CORROSIVE, HIGH IN SULFIDE GASES AND SEWER GASES, REALLY EAT
10:34:44AM UP PUMPS, AND STRUCTURES.
10:34:46AM SO OUR NEW 30-YEAR-OLD PLANT IS KNOW IT NEW ANYMORE.
10:34:50AM WE HIRED AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO DO TWO BASIC THINGS.
10:34:53AM ONE, PHASE ONE.
10:34:54AM THOSE WERE LOOK AT THE THOUSAND PIECES OF EQUIPMENT,
10:34:59AM FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH THE TREATMENT PLAN, TALK TO
10:35:02AM OPERATORS, GET AN AS-IS, WHERE ARE WE AT TODAY?
10:35:09AM AND ONCE THEY COULD DO THAT, THEY WENT OUT AND DID A QUICK
10:35:13AM STUDY; ONE, IS THE CAPACITY GOOD ENOUGH?
10:35:14AM DO WE HAVE TO BUILD NEW STUFF?
10:35:16AM THE NEXT THING THEY LOOKED AT WAS NEW TECHNOLOGIES.
10:35:19AM OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR BUSINESS.
10:35:22AM NEW CUTTING EDGE AND BLEEDING EDGE THINGS.
10:35:26AM SO THAT WAS COMPLETED.
10:35:28AM WHAT DID THEY COME UP WITH?
10:35:30AM FIRST ONE, NO MAJOR CAPACITY ISSUES.
10:35:33AM BUT 96 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT WE ARE PERMITTING NOW IS
10:35:36AM PLENTY.
10:35:37AM OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE AVERAGED 55 TO 60 MILLION
10:35:41AM GALLONS A DAY.
10:35:42AM SO LOTS OF CAPACITY.
10:35:43AM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD NEW THINGS.
10:35:46AM THE TREATMENT PROCESS THAT WE DID BACK IN THE 1970s TO
10:35:49AM MAKE IT ADVANCED HAS HELD UP ALL THESE YEARS, AND IT'S KIND
10:35:54AM OF A MODEL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SOUTHEAST.
10:35:56AM WE GET PEOPLE COMING IN AND LOOKING AT IT.
10:35:58AM IT'S EASY TO USE AND TRIED AND TRUE.
10:36:00AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE NEWER TECHNOLOGIES YOU MAY GET
10:36:03AM A LITTLE EFFICIENCY, BUT THERE'S A HUGE CAPITAL COST TO
10:36:06AM BUILD THOSE NEW THINGS.
10:36:08AM AND THE PAYBACK WASN'T ATTRACTIVE.
10:36:14AM BUT THE BIGGEST THING, AGAIN 30-YEAR-OLD PLANT, SINCE THE
10:36:17AM LAST UPGRADE, YOU NEED A LOT AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
10:36:20AM REHABILITATION.
10:36:22AM AND THAT'S IT FOR THE TREATMENT PLANT.
10:36:25AM THOSE ARE WHAT THE STUDIES SHOWED OVER 20 YEARS, ABOUT 562
10:36:30AM MILLION.
10:36:31AM AS YOU CAN SEE ALMOST HALF OF IT IS THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.
10:36:34AM BECAUSE THAT'S GETTING PAST THE INITIAL BUBBLE OF THE THINGS
10:36:36AM THAT NEED REHABILITATIVE AND REPLACE AND THEN KIND OF EVENS
10:36:40AM OUT IN THE OUT YEARS.
10:36:44AM GOING TO THE OTHER MASTER PLAN WHICH IS OUR COLLECTION
10:36:46AM SYSTEM, WE DID THAT IN-HOUSE.
10:36:49AM AS YOU CAN SEE ABOUT 60% OF OUR SYSTEM IS OVER 50 YEARS OLD
10:36:53AM PIPEWISE, GRAVITY PIPES, ABOUT 20% OF IT IS ABOUT 70 YEARS
10:36:58AM OLD.
10:36:58AM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
10:36:59AM IF YOU LOOK TO THE GRAPHIC TO THE RIGHT, THAT'S EVERY YEAR
10:37:02AM THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THE NUMBER OF CAVE-INS THAT HAVE GONE
10:37:06AM UP.
10:37:06AM LIKE BRAD SAID BEFORE, THAT'S A VERY REACTIVE COST.
10:37:09AM IF IT HAPPENED OUT IN THE STREET, WE MOBILIZE, GET OUT THERE
10:37:12AM AND FIX THAT ONE BREAK, BUT A LOT OF TIMES NEIGHBORHOODS
10:37:16AM WERE BUILT ALL TIME.
10:37:18AM SO 20 FEET AWAY YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER ONE IN THE FUTURE.
10:37:21AM AND YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET
10:37:23AM BEFORE, A BUNCH OF PATCHES.
10:37:27AM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE GOT.
10:37:28AM HOW DO WE ASSESS THAT IN-HOUSE?
10:37:30AM WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH WITH GRAVITY PIPES.
10:37:33AM WE HAVE A FLEET OF SEVEN TV TRUCKS WHERE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN
10:37:37AM THE BIG WHITE TRUCKS OVER A MANHOLE.
10:37:40AM WHAT WE DO IS WE SEND A CAMERA DOWN THERE AND THEY CAN
10:37:44AM RECORD AND ASSESS THE CONDITION OF THE PIPES.
10:37:46AM AND THESE GUYS ARE CERTIFIED, OUR IN-HOUSE GUYS, SO IF THEY
10:37:49AM WERE DOING IN THE PHILADELPHIA OR LOS ANGELES, THEY SCORE IT
10:37:53AM THE SAME.
10:37:58AM SO LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE PIPE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY
10:38:01AM PUT EYES ON IT.
10:38:02AM HOW OLD IS IT?
10:38:04AM WHAT SIZE?
10:38:04AM WHAT THE MATERIAL IS.
10:38:05AM THERE'S ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND THE OTHER.
10:38:08AM IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE.
10:38:10AM IS IT IN FRONT OF A HOSPITAL, IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL?
10:38:12AM IF THERE WAS A CAVE-IN WHAT'S THE IMPACT?
10:38:14AM SO YOU PUT THOSE ALL TOGETHER AND YOU CAME UP WITH 445 MILES
10:38:20AM OF THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY PIPE, AND THAT'S SHOWN IN THIS
10:38:23AM GRAPHIC IN RED.
10:38:25AM AND THEN THE STUFF IN YELLOW, IS BAD AND ABOUT TO GET BAD IN
10:38:32AM THE FUTURE AND THAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW.
10:38:35AM IT'S MOSTLY SOME OF THE WORST PIPE IS CONCRETE PIPE.
10:38:38AM IT GOES UP NORTH OF DOWNTOWN.
10:38:40AM NEBRASKA IN THAT AREA.
10:38:41AM AND IT'S HEADING INTO WEST TAMPA.
10:38:47AM PIPE AND SEWER GASES HEAT UP A LOT FASTER THAN PVC OR OTHER
10:38:52AM THINGS.
10:38:52AM AND TO ADD ON THAT YOU HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THOSE SEWERS ARE
10:38:56AM IN ALLEYS.
10:38:57AM SO YOU HAVE TO MOVE FENCES AND MOVE SHED AND THOSE KIND OF
10:39:00AM THINGS.
10:39:01AM IT'S NOT EASY LIKE YOU CAN WORK IN RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
10:39:05AM PUMPING STATIONS.
10:39:06AM 225 PUMPING STATIONS. THIS ANALYSIS WAS A LOT MORE
10:39:10AM STRAIGHTFORWARD.
10:39:10AM WE BROKE THEM DOWN INTO A COST FOR LARGE STATION, MEDIUM
10:39:14AM STATION AND SMALL STATION.
10:39:15AM THEY LOST 20 YEARS.
10:39:17AM WE KNOW THE LAST BIG REHAB SO YOU CAN EXTRAPOLATE HOW MUCH
10:39:22AM MONEY YOU NEED TO GET THAT DONE.
10:39:24AM AND THAT'S ON THIS SLIDE.
10:39:29AM FORCE MAINS.
10:39:30AM WE HAVE ABOUT 300 MILES OF FORCE MAINS.
10:39:32AM WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS A SEWER PIPE THAT'S UNDER PRESSURE
10:39:35AM FROM A PUNCH.
10:39:36AM BUMPING IT UPHILL.
10:39:39AM HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS RECENTLY.
10:39:41AM DAVIS ISLAND THIS SUMMER WE HAD A BREAK AND THAT'S THE
10:39:43AM PICTURE YOU SEE THERE.
10:39:44AM THAT'S PUTTING A NEW ONE.
10:39:46AM THAT'S THE PETER O. KNIGHT AIRPORT TO THE RIGHT.
10:39:51AM OFF TO THE LEFT, HARBOR ISLAND.
10:39:53AM YOU PROBABLY HEARD OUR ISSUES OUT THERE WITH THE AGING
10:39:55AM PIPELINE.
10:39:58AM YUKEN AND 12th, WE HAD AN EMERGENCY.
10:40:02AM AND THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT FORCE MAINS IT'S NOT EASY TO FIX
10:40:05AM SOMETIMES.
10:40:06AM YOU CAN'T JUST TURN ABOUT AND STOP THE WASTEWATER FROM
10:40:09AM COMING BECAUSE IT'S COMING NO MATTER WHAT SO IT HAS A LOT
10:40:12AM MORE ENVIRONMENTAL RISK OF A BREAK, MORE THAN JUST A CAVE-IN
10:40:15AM WHERE YOU CAN JUST PUT A PUMP AND GO DOWN TO THE NEXT
10:40:17AM MANHOLE.
10:40:22AM THAT'S THE COST FOR FORCE MAINS. THIS IS JUST A
10:40:24AM RECAPITULATION OF THE WHOLE THING.
10:40:27AM OVER 20 YEARS WE ARE GOING TO NEED 1.4 BILLION DOLLARS TO
10:40:31AM CATCH UP.
10:40:33AM >>SONYA LITTLE: REVENUE AND FINANCE.
10:40:44AM SO THE SECOND COMPONENT OR PART TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU
10:40:48AM JUST HEARD ABOUT FROM OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER DIRECTORS AS
10:40:54AM WELL AS MR. BAIRD IS THE FUNDING STRATEGY AS IT RELATES TO
10:40:59AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO GENERATE SUFFICIENT REVENUES IN ORDER TO
10:41:04AM ADDRESS THESE MAJOR CAPITAL NEEDS FOR BOTH SYSTEMS?
10:41:08AM THE CITY ENGAGED IN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT WHO HAS BEEN
10:41:17AM WORKING WITH US OVER THE PAST YEAR OR TWO TO DEVELOP VARIOUS
10:41:20AM SCENARIOS TO GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE OVER THE NEXT 20
10:41:24AM YEARS.
10:41:24AM SO IF I CAN ASK THAT THE PRESENTATION BE BROUGHT BACK UP.
10:41:30AM THE RATE STUDY FOCUSED ON THREE AREAS, THE CONSUMPTION RATE,
10:41:44AM BASE CHARGE AND MISCELLANEOUS FEES AND CHARGES, SEVERAL
10:41:48AM MISCELLANEOUS FEES AND CHARGES THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT.
10:41:50AM WE HAVE A LOT MORE DATA OF OUR EFFICIENCY SO WE WANTED TO
10:41:55AM MAKE SURE THOSE FEES WERE APPROPRIATELY PLACED.
10:41:57AM BUT IF YOU WILL RECALL, THE LAST RATE INCREASE THAT WE HAD
10:42:01AM FOR OUR SYSTEM WAS OVER 7 YEARS AGO.
10:42:04AM AND IT WAS PHASED IN FOR BOTH SYSTEMS FOR WATER.
10:42:08AM IT WAS BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2007 WITH THE FINAL INCREASING
10:42:13AM IN 2011 AND FOR WASTEWATER BEGAN IN 2009 AGAIN WITH A --
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10:42:35AM [NO ENCODER]
10:43:03AM >> JUST TO POINT OUT THAT OUR SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE NOTICE
10:43:08AM MAYBE EVEN ONE OF THE LAST ONES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT
10:43:11AM DOES NOT HAVE A BASE RATE COMPONENT INCLUDED IN THE RATE
10:43:16AM STRUCTURE.
10:43:19AM JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE TO SHARE WITH YOU A REAL LIFE
10:43:22AM EXAMPLE OF HOW THE ABSENCE OF A BASE RATE IMPACTS THE CITY
10:43:27AM IS THAT BACK IN 2009 WHEN THE CITY WAS EXPERIENCING THE
10:43:33AM IMPACT OF THE RECESSION, WE ALSO HAD A DROUGHT, AND THAT
10:43:38AM DROUGHT CAUSED THE CITY TO IMPOSE WATERING RESTRICTIONS.
10:43:42AM AND WHAT I AM TOLD BY THE THEN WATER DIRECTOR, NOW
10:43:45AM MR. BAIRD, ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE SYSTEM, WAS THAT
10:43:50AM CONSUMPTION DROPPED 30 MILLION GALLONS IN ONE DAY AFTER THE
10:43:55AM WATER RESTRICTION WAS IMPOSED.
10:43:57AM SO IT DID WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
10:43:59AM AND THAT WAS TO ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION IN LIGHT OF THE
10:44:03AM DROUGHT.
10:44:03AM HOWEVER, WHAT THAT DID TO THE SYSTEM IS THAT OVER TWO
10:44:08AM BUDGETARY CYCLES, THE SYSTEM LOST REVENUE ...
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10:44:54AM [NO ENCODER]
10:45:04AM >> REVENUE AVAILABLE TO COVER OUR CAPITAL NEEDS, YELLOW OR
10:45:15AM ORANGE IN SOME CASES IN YOUR HARD COPY, SHOWED THE MASTER
10:45:22AM PLAN.
10:45:22AM BUT IF YOU JUMP DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH, THE GREEN
10:45:25AM PORTION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THE OPERATING EXPENSES FOR
10:45:30AM THE SYSTEM, THAT'S ALL IN, I CALL THIS THE ALL-IN CHART, AND
10:45:36AM THEN THE PURPLE LINE JUST ABOVE THAT IS THE EXISTING THAT
10:45:41AM DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE THE EXISTENCE OF ANY MORE DEBT.
10:45:44AM SO THAT COUPLED WITH THE LINE THAT GOES STRAIGHT THROUGH THE
10:45:48AM MIDDLE REFLECTS OUR OPERATING REVENUES AS THEY STAND TODAY.
10:45:52AM SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS ALL-IN CHART TELLS US THAT IF YOU
10:45:55AM DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT THE GAPS JUST REALLY CONTINUES TO
10:45:59AM WIDEN.
10:46:00AM FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN COVER THROUGH 2025 OUR OPERATING
10:46:07AM EXPENSES, OUR DEBT, AND THE PORTION OF THE MASTER PLAN IS
10:46:12AM THAT LITTLE SLIVER BELOW THE LINE IS WHAT WE CAN COVER, AND
10:46:16AM YOU CAN SEE THE UNCOVERED PORTION.
10:46:18AM THEN WHEN WE GET TO 2025 WE START BORDERING OR TEETERING
10:46:22AM OVER JUST BEING ABLE TO EVEN COVER OUR DEBT SERVICE AND
10:46:25AM OPERATING EXPENSES.
10:46:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE CHART.
10:46:36AM ON 2019 IT LOOKS LIKE, JUST LOOKING ROUGHLY, LOOKS LIKE A
10:46:40AM $75 MILLION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHERE THAT EXISTING DEBT
10:46:43AM SERVICE AND PAYMENT LINE IS AND THE OPERATING REVENUE AT
10:46:47AM EXISTING RATES.
10:46:48AM IS IT SOMEWHAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD?
10:46:51AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:46:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT DOES THAT MANY?
10:46:54AM >>SONYA LITTLE: TYPICALLY IN 19 -- AND BRAD HAS A SLIDE
10:46:58AM WHERE WE ARE USING A LARGE PORTION OF THE RESERVES TO PAY
10:47:00AM SOME OF THE CAPITAL NEEDS.
10:47:01AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT GOES BACK TO THAT THE OH CHART THAT BRAD
10:47:06AM WAS SHOWING EARLIER?
10:47:07AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:47:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE FOLLOWING
10:47:12AM THE SAME THING.
10:47:13AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:47:14AM >>SONYA LITTLE: SO ON SLIDE 32 WE HAVE PROVIDED A SCENARIO,
10:47:23AM A SUMMARY OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.
10:47:27AM AS I MENTIONED WITH THE RATE CONSULTANT WE REVIEWED AND
10:47:30AM ANALYZED NUMEROUS SCENARIOS BUT THE TOP THREE ARE PROVIDED
10:47:35AM HERE.
10:47:35AM THE FIRST ONE, SCENARIO A, WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE COULD
10:47:43AM FUND OF THE MASTER PLAN IF WE CONSERVATIVELY ASSUMED AN
10:47:47AM INCREASE IN CONSUMPTION RATE AND ADDED A BASE CHARGE.
10:47:51AM ALL OF THE SCENARIOS ADDED INCLUDE THE BASE CHARGE WHICH WE
10:47:55AM DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY.
10:47:57AM SCENARIO B ON THE OTHER HAND WILL FUND 100% OF THE MASTER
10:48:03AM PLAN THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT, AND 100% OF TAP.
10:48:10AM THE ONLY DIFFERENCE ON SCENARIO C IS THAT IT WILL EXCLUDE --
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10:48:48AM [NO ENCODER]
10:49:01AM ALMOST 1.4 BILLION FOR WASTEWATER GIVING US A TOTAL OF 3.2,
10:49:07AM JUST UNDER 3.2 BILLION.
10:49:12AM SO WHAT DOES THAT MANY PER SCENARIO AS IT RELATES TO RATES?
10:49:20AM AGAIN, REMINDING YOU THAT EACH OF THESE SCENARIOS WILL
10:49:24AM INCLUDE A BASE CHARGE, AND THE BASE CHARGE CALCULATED BASED
10:49:30AM ON ONE ERU WHICH IS AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT, AND THAT
10:49:35AM EQUATES TO ROUGHLY 6,000 GALLONS PER MONTH OF CONSUMPTION.
10:49:43AM BUT THE BASE CHARGE IN THAT CASE BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR
10:49:48AM 2020, WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $4 PER MONTH PER ERU.
10:49:55AM AND THEN INCREASING BETWEEN YEARS OF 2021 TO 2034 AT $2 PER
10:50:03AM MONTH PER ERU, AND THEN MAXING OUT IN YEAR 2034 AT $32 PER
10:50:14AM MONTH PER ERU.
10:50:17AM SO IT ALSO INCLUDES THE 3% INCREASE ON THE CONSUMPTION RATE
10:50:22AM AS WE DISCUSSED.
10:50:23AM BUT IT WILL COVER 100% OF OUR OPERATIONS ON MAINTENANCE.
10:50:29AM BUT UNDERSTOOD THIS SCENARIO IT DOES NOT COVER 100% OF THE
10:50:33AM MASTER PLAN.
10:50:34AM IT WOULD ONLY COVER 79% LEAVING ABOUT 700 MILLION UNFUNDED
10:50:40AM OVER THE 20-YEAR MASTER PLAN.
10:50:45AM AND THE BOTTOM BULLET MERELY SHOWS YOU THE FUNDING SOURCES
10:50:48AM FOR THE MASTER PLAN BETWEEN CASH AND DEBT.
10:50:57AM SCENARIO B HAS THE SAME BASE CHARGE, ASSUMES THE SAME BASE
10:51:07AM CHARGE. BUT IN ORDER TO FUND 100% OF THE MASTER PLAN AND
10:51:10AM 100% OF TAP, ADJUSTMENTS HAVE TO BE MADE TO THE CONSUMPTION
10:51:17AM RATE THAT WAS CHARGED AND AT THE END OF THE SUMMARY OF EACH
10:51:21AM OF THE SCENARIOS I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU THE IMPACT TO THE
10:51:25AM CUSTOMER RATE.
10:51:25AM BUT IN SCENARIO B, THE COUPLES RATE FOR WATER FOR 20 AND 21
10:51:33AM WAS THE 3%.
10:51:34AM AND THEN INCREASES TO 15% IN FY 22 TO 25 AND THEN 1%
10:51:41AM THEREAFTER THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2040.
10:51:43AM AND THE WASTEWATER ARE VERY SIMILARLY VARYING IN THE YEARS
10:51:50AM 2030 TO 31 AND THEN 4% ANNUAL INCREASE THROUGH FY 2040.
10:51:57AM SO BASICALLY WHAT THE LAST TWO SCENARIOS DO IN ORDER TO FUND
10:52:00AM 100% OF THE TAP MASTER PLAN IS IT MATCHES THE REVENUE NEEDS
10:52:06AM TO THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED BY THE
10:52:11AM CONSULTING ENGINEER.
10:52:18AM SCENARIO C, AGAIN THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT DOES NOT
10:52:21AM INCLUDE TAP WHEN COMPARED TO THE PRIOR SCENARIO, AND IT
10:52:26AM PROVIDES THE SAME BASE CHARGE BUT WITH VARYING CONSUMPTION
10:52:30AM RATES TO MATCH THE MASTER PLAN UNDER THIS SCENARIO.
10:52:39AM SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT MEANS --
10:52:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: QUESTION ON THAT, NOT THE TAP.
10:52:45AM ON THE TAP PORTION OF ALL SCENARIOS, IS THAT THE 350 OR HALF
10:52:49AM OF 350?
10:52:51AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THAT'S THE 350.
10:52:52AM TOTAL.
10:52:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU GET ANY GRANTS --
10:52:56AM >>SONYA LITTLE: I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THESE SCENARIOS,
10:52:58AM THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT SECURED
10:53:01AM ANY GRANTS.
10:53:03AM SO DURING THE TERM -- AND THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF
10:53:06AM THAT.
10:53:07AM UNDER THE 20-YEAR PLAN, THE CITY WILL CONTINUALLY GO AFTER
10:53:11AM GRANT FUNDING TO PUSH DOWN THE COST TOTAL CUSTOMERS.
10:53:19AM SO ON SLIDE 37, WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AND THE CONSULTANT
10:53:25AM PROVIDED TO US TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE HOW OUR RATES UNDER
10:53:31AM THE PROPOSED SCENARIOS COMPARE TO THAT OF OUR PEERS.
10:53:34AM SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART IN THE FIRST TWO BARS, YOU SEE
10:53:39AM THAT THE EXISTING UTILITY BILLS FOR WATER, WEIGHT WATER,
10:53:47AM CUSTOMERS, WHO AVERAGE 6,000 GALLONS PER MONTH, 6,000
10:53:52AM GALLONS PER MONTH IS AT $41.29.
10:53:57AM WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE FIRST YEAR THAT WOULD INCLUDE A
10:54:01AM BASE RATE ON THE PRIOR SCENARIOS, THE MONTHLY BILL IS
10:54:06AM ESTIMATED FOR THAT AVERAGE CUSTOMER TO GO UP TO 46.50.
10:54:11AM SO THE BLACK LINE GOING ALL THE WAY UP IS AN AVERAGE OF THE
10:54:16AM PEERS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS TABLE, AND THAT SURVEY AVERAGE AS
10:54:19AM PROVIDED BY THE INDEPENDENT RESULT IS $80.57.
10:54:24AM SO YOU WILL SEE BOTH OUR EXISTING RATES AND THE PROPOSED
10:54:29AM RATES, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS FAR BELOW THE AVERAGE OF THAT OF
10:54:34AM OUR PEERS.
10:54:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OTHER QUESTION, CHAIRMAN.
10:54:38AM DOES THAT MEAN ON YOUR 6,000 GALLONS OF WATER A MONTH, ABOUT
10:54:41AM 8 UNITS OF WATER?
10:54:43AM AM I CORRECT IN THAT?
10:54:45AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:54:46AM THAT'S CORRECT.
10:54:47AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHEN YOU TAKE LIKE THE CITY OF
10:54:52AM ST. PETERSBURG, WHICH IS NOW ALMOST $100 A MONTH, IS THAT --
10:54:58AM DOES THAT INCLUDE THE MONEY TO PAY THE CONSENT ORDERS TO THE
10:55:03AM STATE WHEN THEY VIOLATE AND DUMP WATER INTO THE BAY?
10:55:10AM >>SONYA LITTLE: I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF THEY OPERATE
10:55:15AM SIMILARLY THAT THEY WE HAVE TO TAP RESERVES IN ORDER TO --
10:55:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: IF THE THEIR RESERVES FELL BELOW THE 20%
10:55:24AM THRESHOLD THEY WOULD HAVE TO RAISE RATES TO COVER IT?
10:55:28AM >>SONYA LITTLE: RIGHT.
10:55:29AM AND YOU WILL SEE IN OUR SUBSEQUENT SLIDE, IF I CAN TAKE YOU
10:55:33AM TO THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, AND I THINK THIS WILL GET TO THE
10:55:36AM HEART OF WHERE YOU ARE MAYBE GOING, COUNCILMAN.
10:55:38AM SO THIS SLIDE $80.57 SURVEY AVERAGE, AND THE LINES THAT YOU
10:55:49AM SEE BELOW THAT, THAT ARE RISING, REFLECT EACH OF THE
10:55:53AM SCENARIOS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT OVER A 7-YEAR PERIOD.
10:55:58AM SO YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT, IF OUR PEERS DO NOTHING FOR
10:56:03AM SEVEN YEARS, WHICH IS HOW UNLIKELY OF THEIR RATES, COMPARE
10:56:09AM THAT TO WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING WITH ITS PROPOSED
10:56:11AM RATE STRUCTURE UNDER ANY OF THOSE SCENARIOS, WE ARE STILL
10:56:15AM FAR BELOW IN EVERY YEAR.
10:56:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: I GUESS WRITE WAS GOING WITH THE QUESTION
10:56:19AM WAS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHETHER YOU RAISE THE RATES OR NOT,
10:56:24AM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE RATES, BECAUSE IF YOU
10:56:27AM DON'T RAISE THE RATES, AND THINGS CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE,
10:56:31AM YOU ARE JUST GOING TO PAY IT ON THE BACK END.
10:56:34AM YOU ARE EITHER FALL BEHIND IN YOUR BOND COVENANTS, OR IN
10:56:39AM YOUR BOND RATING AND PAY HIGHER INTEREST RATES, OR YOU ARE
10:56:42AM GOING TO ULTIMATELY TAP THE RATE PAYER TO MAKE UP THAT
10:56:48AM DIFFERENCE.
10:56:48AM SO IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER.
10:56:51AM IN ONE SCENARIO YOU GET THE WORK DONE.
10:56:53AM IN THE OTHER SCENARIO YOU DON'T GET THE WORK DONE.
10:56:55AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:56:57AM AND THE REASON FOR THIS PROPOSAL AND THIS 20-YEAR PLAN TODAY
10:57:01AM IS TO BE PROACTIVE BECAUSE EITHER WAY, AS THEY JUST
10:57:06AM INDICATED, WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE
10:57:08AM BECAUSE A PIPE HAS BLOWN, AND YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY IT.
10:57:13AM BUT AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE NO RESERVES LEFT BECAUSE THE
10:57:18AM SYSTEM REVENUES DON'T SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE,
10:57:22AM AND THE FORWARD-LOOKING CONSTRUCTION NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THE
10:57:27AM SYSTEM.
10:57:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANT TO SAY, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ AND I
10:57:32AM HAVE BEEN GOING TO THESE FORUMS.
10:57:33AM WE GET ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
10:57:35AM THIS NEVER COMES UP.
10:57:36AM THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING THE CITY RIGHT NOW,
10:57:40AM AND IT NEVER COMES UP.
10:57:43AM VERY BAD.
10:57:45AM THAT IT DOESN'T COME UP.
10:57:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT COMES UP WITH ME AND NOBODY
10:57:49AM UNDERSTANDS WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:57:50AM >>SONYA LITTLE: AND THIS BOTTOM TABLE ON SLIDE 38 PROVIDES
10:58:04AM UNDER EACH SCENARIO HOW YEAR OVER YEAR THE RESIDENTIAL
10:58:09AM CUSTOMER THAT AVERAGES THE 6,000 GALLONS PER MONTH AND
10:58:14AM CONSUMPTION CHANGES YEAR OVER YEAR THROUGH THE YEAR 2026 TO
10:58:19AM SUPPORT THE $3 BILLION 20-YEAR PLAN.
10:58:27AM AND SO ALONG THOSE LINES, WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING A
10:58:36AM POSSIBLE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THAT ANY INCREMENTAL
10:58:41AM INCREASE MAY BE IMPACTFUL.
10:58:43AM IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
10:58:45AM AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH TO DETERMINE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE
10:58:49AM PROGRAM TO DETERMINE WHO RECEIVES ASSISTANCE AND THE TYPE OF
10:58:55AM ASSISTANCE THAT THE CITY CAN PROVIDE, AND THEN ALONG WITH
10:58:57AM THAT, OBVIOUSLY, INCLUDES PROGRAM OUTREACH AND MONITORING,
10:59:04AM AND CERTAINLY A VERY CLEAR, DISTINGUISHED FUNDING SOURCE FOR
10:59:11AM THE PROGRAM.
10:59:11AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
10:59:15AM MR. MIRANDA KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS ABOUT DIFFERENT GRANTS
10:59:19AM AND FUNDS.
10:59:19AM AND I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT,
10:59:23AM PRIMARILY IN TERMS OF I BELIEVE -- OBVIOUSLY, THAT STILL IS
10:59:30AM BASED ON RATE CHANGES, AND THE WAY THAT WE PAY BACK THOSE
10:59:34AM LOANS.
10:59:34AM HOW MANY OR HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GETTING NOW FROM THE
10:59:41AM RESOLVING LOAN FUND?
10:59:42AM AND IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
10:59:45AM WASTEWATER, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF IT THAT GOES BACK TO
10:59:48AM THAT?
10:59:49AM IF YOU FOLLOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:59:51AM BECAUSE IF WE ARE BONDING SPECIFICALLY FOR OURSELVES AS
10:59:53AM OPPOSED TO REPAYING A LOAN THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE
10:59:56AM STATE BECAUSE OF THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND, WHAT'S THE
11:00:00AM DIFFERENCE WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?
11:00:03AM >>SONYA LITTLE: SO THE WAY THAT THE BONDING BETWEEN FIXED
11:00:07AM RATE BOND AND THE STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND WILL BE
11:00:11AM STRUCTURED THROUGHOUT THE 20-YEAR PLAN, IS THAT THE MODELING
11:00:14AM ALLOWS FOR THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE ARE
11:00:18AM DETERMINED TO GET AS MUCH GRANT FUNDING AS WE NEED, AS WE
11:00:22AM CAN ACQUIRE, SO THE GRANT FUNDING WILL ACTUALLY BUY DOWN THE
11:00:26AM AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ISSUE TO SATISFY OUR
11:00:29AM NEEDS.
11:00:30AM WHEN WE DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT'S NEEDED, WE'LL
11:00:33AM EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO DO A LONG-TERM
11:00:36AM FIXED-RATE PUBLIC OFFERING, OR TO OBTAIN A LOAN FROM THE
11:00:41AM STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND.
11:00:43AM AND RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE ROUGHLY 16 MILLION OF THE
11:00:47AM TOTAL, ALMOST 200 MILLION OUTSTANDING DEBT COMING FROM THE
11:00:50AM STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND.
11:00:52AM BUT IT WILL BE THROUGHOUT THE 20 YEARS, ANALYSIS AND
11:00:57AM COMPARISON FOR THE LOWEST COST DEPENDING ON THE -- THE
11:01:01AM AVAILABILITY OF THE STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND AND THE RATE,
11:01:05AM AND EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY WE'LL NEED.
11:01:07AM >> BECAUSE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TYPICALLY HAS A 20
11:01:11AM YEAR SHELF LIFE ANYWAY AND THOSE LOANS ARE BASED ON THAT
11:01:15AM SCENARIO OF 20 YEARS.
11:01:17AM AND I KNOW THAT THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND IS SUPPOSED TO GO
11:01:20AM OUT AND BOND OUT THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AND BE ABLE TO SELL
11:01:23AM THOSE BONDS ON THE OPEN MARKET IN ORDER TO REPAY BACK IN,
11:01:27AM BUT THE RATES HAVE TO BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO
11:01:32AM REPAY THOSE LOANS, TOO.
11:01:33AM SO I KNOW THAT RATE ANALYSIS IS DONE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT
11:01:38AM A BOND THAT WE ARE ISSUING.
11:01:40AM WE STILL HAVE TO LOW AT RATES IN ORDER TO REPAY BACK ANY OF
11:01:44AM THOSE LOANS.
11:01:45AM AND THEN OF COURSE WITH WATER, THERE ARE SOME GRANTS
11:01:48AM AVAILABLE, BUT USUALLY THEY ARE NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT IN
11:01:51AM ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF HELP WE NEED AT SUCH
11:01:55AM A LARGE SCALE.
11:01:56AM SO AT LEAST WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
11:01:58AM >>SONYA LITTLE: YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.
11:02:00AM AND WE HAVE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TRIED TO TAP EVERY
11:02:04AM POSSIBLE RESOURCE, EVEN BEFORE THE MASTER PLAN WAS
11:02:07AM COMPLETED, AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE VERY SLIM.
11:02:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN FACT I THINK IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, AND WE
11:02:15AM HAVE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IF
11:02:17AM WE TO HAVE WATER MAIN BREAKS AND WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE
11:02:20AM SCENARIOS THAT MR. COHEN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
11:02:22AM WHERE WE HAVE DISCHARGES INTO THE BAY, THAT COST THAT'S
11:02:27AM GOING TO GO INTO IT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, CONSENT ORDERS,
11:02:31AM THINGS LIKE THAT, IN ADDITION, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE
11:02:35AM ARE GOING TO LOSE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE GRANTS ARE BASED ON
11:02:38AM THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT DOING THOSE BAD THINGS TO THE
11:02:41AM ENVIRONMENT, AND THAT TO ME I THINK IS A REAL IMPORTANT PART
11:02:44AM OF THIS, WHICH IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING MONEY IN
11:02:48AM ORDER TO PROVIDE THE WORK, THE CAPITAL WORK DONE, BUT IT
11:02:54AM ALSO IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE FUTURE COSTS ARE EVEN
11:02:59AM SMALLER, AND FUTURE COSTS ARE REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO KILL US
11:03:02AM AND EAT US UP IF YOU DON'T PUT MONEY INTO IT NOW.
11:03:05AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:03:06AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THANK YOU.
11:03:16AM THAT'S IT.
11:03:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:03:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:18AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:03:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:03:22AM WE GO TO OUR WORKSHOPS.
11:03:27AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
11:03:43AM WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING TO PRESENT A VERY STRATEGIC AND
11:03:48AM FAR-REACHING PARKING ANALYSIS.
11:03:52AM AND THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE
11:03:55AM DONE BEFORE OR PARTICIPATED WITH, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME
11:03:59AM WHAT WE LOOKED AT ARE CITY ASSETS AND CITY PARKING PLANS.
11:04:02AM THIS HAS BEEN A PROGRAM THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INITIATED BY THE
11:04:05AM DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND SBP AND THE DOWNTOWN CRA
11:04:11AM PARTICIPATED IN IT WITH FUNDING BY GETTING MORE DATA POINTS
11:04:14AM TO MAKE SURE OF THE ACCURACY OF THE PROGRAM.
11:04:17AM SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF EVERY GROUP THAT
11:04:21AM COMBS UP TO YOU TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY ABOUT PARKING.
11:04:26AM THE SMALL DEVELOPER SAYS THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING, WE
11:04:29AM SHOULDN'T MAKE THEM DO IT.
11:04:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MCDONAUGH, EXCUSE ME.
11:04:33AM WOULD YOU NOTIFY THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WE ARE STILL IN
11:04:35AM SESSION?
11:04:36AM THANK YOU.
11:04:37AM GO AHEAD.
11:04:37AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AS I SAID, THE SMALL DEVELOPER WILL TELL
11:04:41AM YOU, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY MORE PARKING.
11:04:43AM THERE'S PLENTY.
11:04:44AM IF YOU TALK TO THE FOLKS AT THE STRAZ OR MY FOLKS AT THE
11:04:47AM CONVENTION CENTER, THE AMALIE ARENA OR ON OCCASION THE PARKS
11:04:52AM DEPARTMENT, THEY WILL TELL YOU WE ARE WOEFULLY SHORT.
11:04:55AM YOU LISTEN TO COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PEOPLE AND THEY WILL
11:04:58AM SAY, NO, WE NEED MORE PARKING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, LIKE
11:05:00AM WESTSHORE IS AS WELL.
11:05:02AM SO THIS STUDY HAS LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE INVENTORY.
11:05:09AM IS THE T CITY'S FLAT LOT STRUCTURED PARKING, THOSE THAT
11:05:12AM BELONG TO PRIVATE ENTITIES, THAT LOOKED AT PARKING RATES,
11:05:15AM THAT LOOKED AT HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE LOOKED AT THE EXACT
11:05:18AM SAME SITUATION THAT WE HAVE.
11:05:20AM AND SO THEY ARE GETTING READY TO PRESENT THIS AND JUST
11:05:23AM FINISHED WITH IT.
11:05:24AM AND THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING AT IT AND EVALUATING OUR
11:05:28AM OPTIONS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT, THINGS
11:05:31AM THAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT, AND INCORPORATE IN THE
11:05:35AM NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE, AND THEN AGAIN LONG-TERM THINGS THAT
11:05:38AM WE INCORPORATE IN OUR PARKING.
11:05:40AM I THINK YOU WILL FIND IT FASCINATING BECAUSE IT DISPELS A
11:05:43AM LOT OF THE STORIES THAT YOU HEAR ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.
11:05:47AM THANK YOU.
11:05:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, SIR.
11:05:52AM >> MY NAME IS JOEL MANN WITH STANTECH CONSULTING SERVICES, A
11:05:58AM TRANSPORTATION PLANNER WORKING WITH THE DOWNTOWN
11:06:01AM PARTNERSHIP, AND THE LEAD CONSULTANT ON THE PARKING STUDIES
11:06:04AM SO FAR THAT MR. MCDONAUGH INTRODUCED.
11:06:06AM WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO SHARE WITH YOU IF WE COULD PULL
11:06:09AM THAT UP.
11:06:11AM I WILL RUN THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
11:06:13AM WE HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF YOU ABOUT THIS
11:06:16AM INDIVIDUALLY AND YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF DATA IN
11:06:18AM THIS STUDY.
11:06:18AM SO I AM GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THROUGH QUICKLY SO THERE'S
11:06:21AM PLENTY OF TIME FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS.
11:06:24AM THIS IS SORT OF SCRATCHING THE SURFACE SO WE CAN GET INTO
11:06:27AM MORE OF THIS, AND WE HAVE SOME CASE STUDIES THAT WE ARE
11:06:30AM HAPPY TO SHARE AS WELL.
11:06:32AM AS MR. MCDONAUGH SAID, YOU HEAR MANY STORIES ABOUT PARKING.
11:06:37AM BUT THE COMMON THEME SEEMS TO BE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.
11:06:40AM THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN.
11:06:43AM DESPITE THAT CONCERN THAT YOU HEAR FROM MOST OF YOUR
11:06:46AM CONSTITUENTS, THE FINDINGS OF OUR WORK SHOW THAT THERE IS
11:06:49AM ACTUALLY AVAILABLE PARKING.
11:06:51AM THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY PARKING WHERE PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE OR
11:06:54AM AT THE RIGHT TIMES, BUT PART OF OUR WORK WAS A COMPREHENSIVE
11:06:58AM DATA COLLECTION EFFORT.
11:07:00AM THE FIRST THAT'S BEEN DONE IN TAMPA TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT
11:07:03AM COUNTED ALL OF THE INVENTORY OF PARKING THAT IS BUILT TODAY
11:07:07AM AND WE COUNTED AT MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE YEAR HOW THAT
11:07:10AM PARKING IS BEING USED.
11:07:11AM WE COUNTED EVERY PARKING SPACE AND HOW MANY CARS ARE IN
11:07:14AM THEM.
11:07:14AM SO IT'S KIND OF INDISPUTABLE FACT.
11:07:17AM HERE IS HOW MANY CARS WERE THERE.
11:07:18AM AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE THERE OR IF THEY HAD MONTHLY
11:07:21AM PERMITS OR IF THEY WERE IN RESERVED SPACES.
11:07:23AM THIS IS SIMPLY THE NUMBER OF CARS IN PARKING SPACES.
11:07:27AM WE COUNTED, AS MR. MCDONAUGH MENTIONED, THE PARKING THAT THE
11:07:31AM CITY OWNS AND OPERATES WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF
11:07:33AM THE 24,000 SPACES IN OUR GREATER DOWNTOWN STUDY AREA.
11:07:39AM WE COUNTED PRIVATE PARKING AS WELL.
11:07:41AM THIS WAS ON-STREET AND OFF-STREET.
11:07:42AM THIS IS EVERYTHING IN AN AREA BASICALLY FROM 275 DOWN TO THE
11:07:48AM CHANNEL AND THE RIVER OVER TO MERIDIAN AND THE CHANNEL
11:07:51AM DISTRICT.
11:07:52AM AND IN THAT AREA, THE STRIKING FINDING OF OURS WAS EVEN AT
11:07:57AM THE BUSIEST TIMES THAT WE OBSERVED, THERE IS AVAILABILITY.
11:08:02AM THERE ARE 6,000 SPACES.
11:08:03AM ABOUT A QUARTER OF THAT INVENTORY THAT NOT BEING OCCUPIED AT
11:08:06AM THAT TIME.
11:08:07AM AGAIN THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY THAT HAPPENS THAT WE'LL GET
11:08:09AM INTO IN A MOMENT.
11:08:11AM BUT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A PRETTY BOLD FINDING TO START
11:08:14AM WITH.
11:08:15AM AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN LOCATION WHERE IS PEOPLE
11:08:19AM WANT TO BE OR HAVE SOME PARKING THAT ISN'T USED AT TIMES FOR
11:08:23AM A BIG EVENT OR BIG DEMAND, RIGHT NEXT TO PARKING THAT IS
11:08:26AM BEING USED.
11:08:27AM PART OF THE REASON THAT HAPPENS IS THAT PRICING RIGHT NOW IS
11:08:31AM NOT REALLY SET UP FOR RATIONAL CHOICES.
11:08:33AM SOME OF THE PRICES IS OUT OF BALANCE.
11:08:36AM THE MAP YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE SHOWS SEVERAL PARKING
11:08:39AM FACILITIES AROUND DOWNTOWN.
11:08:40AM THE ONES THAT ARE OUTLINED LINED ARE OPERATED BY THE CITY.
11:08:45AM AND THESE ARE THE PRICES FOR AN AVERAGE MONTHLY PERMIT.
11:08:49AM A COUPLE OF TIERS OF PRICE.
11:08:51AM BUT THIS IS GENERALLY BY THE COLOR CODING, YOU HAVE HIGHER
11:08:55AM PRAISES IN THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN, AROUND THE EDGE.
11:09:00AM THAT MAKES SENSE.
11:09:01AM BUT THE CITY'S PRICES ARE GENERALLY BELOW WHAT THE PRIVATE
11:09:04AM SECTOR IS CHARGING.
11:09:05AM AND THE POPULAR REASON, PEOPLE WANT TO GET INTO THOSE
11:09:09AM PARKING SPACES BECAUSE IT COSTS LESS AND THEY END UP WITH
11:09:11AM FAIRLY LONG WAITING LISTS FOR THAT REASON.
11:09:14AM ANOTHER PART OF THE DYNAMIC IS THAT PRICING BETWEEN THE
11:09:17AM STREET SPACES AND THE GARAGE SPACES IS REVERSED WHAT IT
11:09:22AM TYPICALLY IS IN OTHER CITIES.
11:09:24AM THOSE STREET SPACES ARE THE MOST DESIRABLE OF COURSE.
11:09:26AM PEOPLE WANT TO PARK THERE.
11:09:27AM THEY ARE CONVENIENT.
11:09:28AM THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AS THE MOST VALUABLE AND RIGHT NOW
11:09:30AM PRICING IS OFTEN BELOW WHAT IT IS NO GARAGE RIGHT NEXT TO
11:09:33AM IT.
11:09:34AM JUST A FEW QUICK POINTS ON WHAT PRICE IS.
11:09:38AM THE STREET SPACES ARE GENERALLY LOWER THAN THE OFF-STREET
11:09:41AM SPACES.
11:09:41AM BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COST OF MONTHLY PERMITS AS
11:09:44AM WELL, WHICH ARE A VERY POPULAR CHOICE, BY FAR THE MOST
11:09:49AM PREVALENT IN THE PARKING SYSTEM, THE PRICE OF PARKING
11:09:53AM COMPARED TO WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE BUILT MORE IS ALSO NOT
11:09:56AM QUITE MATCHING UP.
11:09:57AM IF YOU WERE TO BUILD MORE PARKING AS SHOWN IN THAT LITTLE
11:10:00AM BREAK-EVEN POINT, THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS TO CONSTRUCT AND
11:10:04AM FINANCE PARKING OVER TIME, AND THE RANGE OF WHAT'S BEING
11:10:07AM CHARGED FOR THAT PARKING IS BELOW THAT.
11:10:10AM MONTHLY PERMITS LIKE WE SAID ARE VERY HEAVILY USED IN THE
11:10:14AM SYSTEM.
11:10:16AM THE OPTION THAT EVERYBODY DEFAULTS TO FOR A LONG TIME.
11:10:19AM BUT IF YOU TAKE THE COST FOR A MONTHLY PERMIT AND BREAK THAT
11:10:22AM DOWN AND COMPARE THAT TO HOURLY OR DAILY PARKING IT CHEAP.
11:10:27AM IT'S 11 CENTS ON AVERAGE VERSUS A LOW OF 75 CENTS AN HOUR IN
11:10:32AM THAT LOWER BAR THERE FOR PAYING AN OFF-STREET IF YOU WERE
11:10:37AM SIMPLY PAYING BY THE HOUR.
11:10:38AM IT'S NO WONDER PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING THOSE MONTHLY PERMITS.
11:10:41AM THEY ARE A GREAT BARGAIN RIGHT NOW.
11:10:43AM AND THE PRICING HAS MANIPULATED THE MARKET SOMEWHAT.
11:10:46AM THIS IS THE SLIDE SHOWN A SECOND AGO.
11:10:48AM THESE ARE THE PRICES OF MONTHLY PERMITS AT THESE CITY
11:10:52AM FACILITY.
11:10:53AM THEY HAVE DRIVEN POPULARITY AND PEOPLE HAVE A WAIST LIST.
11:10:56AM THOSE WAIST LISTS ARE SOMETIMES SO LONG, YOU HAVE TWO OR
11:10:59AM THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT COULD BE SOLD AT A
11:11:03AM GARAGE ACTUALLY SITTING ON THAT WASTE LIST WAITING TO GET
11:11:07AM INTO IT, AND IT'S THE MONTHLY PERMITS THAT ARE REALLY STRONG
11:11:09AM IN THE MARKET.
11:11:11AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACILITIES THESE ARE ALL THE PARKING
11:11:14AM GARAGES ON LOTS DOWNTOWN.
11:11:15AM AND WE HAVE MADE THEM INTO TOWERS HERE.
11:11:18AM EXTRUDED THEM BY SPACES, 2500 SPACES IN THAT GARAGE.
11:11:25AM BUT THESE ARE HOW THEY ARE USED.
11:11:27AM THE COOLER COLORS TOWARDS BLUE AND GREEN ARE LESS USED,
11:11:31AM BELOW 50% UTILIZED?
11:11:32AM AND THE YELLOWS AND ORANGES ARE MORE USED.
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11:12:16AM >> WHAT WE HAVE OBSERVED FROM THAT IS THAT CONTINUING TO DO
11:12:21AM THAT MAY NOT LET DOWNTOWN CONTINUE TO GROW.
11:12:24AM IN FACT, IT WON'T.
11:12:25AM IF YOU CONSIDER DOWNTOWN COMPARED TO WESTSHORE TWO OFFICE
11:12:30AM MARKET, BY THOSE MEASURES WESTSHORE HAS BEEN TWICE AS LARGE
11:12:34AM BUT DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN CATCHING UP.
11:12:35AM THIS IS JUST IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
11:12:37AM THERE'S BEEN TEN TIMES THE ABSORPTION, VACANCY RATES IN
11:12:40AM DOWNTOWN ARE ON PAR WITH WESTSHORE NOW, GETTING PRETTY
11:12:43AM TIGHT, AND YET THIS HAS BEEN DONE WITH ONLY HALF THE PARKING
11:12:50AM PER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WESTSHORE HAS.
11:12:52AM BUT DOWNTOWN IS CHANGING, AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN THAT TRYING
11:12:59AM TO COMPETE AND PLAY THAT SAME GAME REALLY ISN'T RELEVANT
11:13:02AM ANYMORE.
11:13:03AM DOWNTOWN IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PLACE.
11:13:04AM IT'S DYNAMIC.
11:13:05AM THE PARKING NEEDS ARE THEREFORE MUCH MORE DYNAMIC FOR
11:13:09AM SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:13:10AM GETTING MORE AND MORE FREQUENT AND POPULAR, ALMOST LIKE TWO
11:13:13AM SEPARATE DOWNTOWNS WHEN THE SPECIAL EVENTS ARE HAPPENING.
11:13:16AM AND AS DOWNTOWN'S LAND USE PROFILE IS CHANGING IT'S NOT JUST
11:13:20AM AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER ANYMORE.
11:13:21AM AND THINKING ABOUT HOW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND HAVING TO
11:13:25AM BUILD PARKING, THE IDEA THAT EVERYONE HAS PARKING SPACE IN
11:13:30AM DOWNTOWN IS ADDING TO COSTS.
11:13:31AM WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT TAMPA AND OTHER
11:13:34AM AMERICAN CITIES HAVE FACED WITH HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
11:13:37AM AND PARKING IS A PORTION OF THAT THAT KEEPS FINANCING COASTS
11:13:41AM HIGHER, THAT KEEPS THE RENT HIGHER.
11:13:42AM SO SOME OF OUR OBSERVATIONS, THIS IS SORT OF WHERE WE PASS
11:13:46AM FROM THE COLD HARD DATA OF THE STUDY INTO OUR PROFESSIONAL
11:13:51AM OPINION AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD SEE AS DIRECTIONS FORWARD
11:13:55AM AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF IS THAT WE HEARD FROM MANY
11:13:59AM PEOPLE THAT, YES, THERE'S UNUSED PARKING ON THE EDGE BUT
11:14:03AM NOBODY WANTS TO WALK THAT FAR.
11:14:05AM I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
11:14:06AM I GREW UP IN TAMPA.
11:14:07AM I DON'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE BUT I KNOW THE SUMMERS.
11:14:10AM I KNOW HOW IT IS TRYING TO WALK SIX BLOCKS WHEN YOU ARE
11:14:13AM DRESSED LIKE THIS.
11:14:14AM AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A CONCERN THAT DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP,
11:14:19AM THE CITY, HART, HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS WITH CIRCULATOR
11:14:23AM SERVICE.
11:14:24AM BUT THIS MIGHT HAVE A PRICE SOLUTION.
11:14:25AM IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS IDEA OF THE WAIT LIST AND WHO IS ON
11:14:29AM THAT, WHEN THESE WAIT LISTS ARE TWO AND THREE TIMES AS LONG
11:14:32AM AS THE NUMBER OF PERMITS YOU CAN SELL BECAUSE THEY ARE $30 A
11:14:35AM SPACE THAT SUGGESTS TO US WHEN YOU GET THE PRICE RIGHT
11:14:38AM PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE SOMEWHAT.
11:14:40AM AND THE WALKING DISTANCE FROM SOME OF THOSE IS REALLY NOT
11:14:43AM MUCH DIFFERENT FROM MORE REMOTE PARKING BEING USED TODAY.
11:14:48AM SO THAT POINTS TO A MOBILITY SIDE OF THIS, AND IF WE NEED TO
11:14:52AM BE THINKING ABOUT THE MOBILITY OPTIONS TO MAKE THAT WALKING
11:14:55AM BETTER OR MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE, BUT THE BALANCING AND
11:14:58AM MAPPING SO THAT PEOPLE ARE INCLINED TO MOVE OUT TO THAT
11:15:02AM BECAUSE THE PRICE IS RIGHT.
11:15:03AM AND ADDRESSING THIS PRICE ISSUE, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR IS
11:15:07AM NOT JUST ABOUT INCREASING PRAISES, ESPECIALLY ON THE CITY
11:15:10AM FACILITIES.
11:15:11AM IT'S ABOUT FINDING BALANCE IN SOME OF THESE PLACES WHERE
11:15:14AM STREET PARKING AND GARAGE PARKING ARE KIND OF LOPSIDED, THAT
11:15:18AM WE RAISE THE STREET PARKING RATES IF WE NEED TO, WE LOWER
11:15:21AM GARAGE PARKING IN SOME LOCATIONS.
11:15:24AM THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE WITH THIS,
11:15:26AM SINCE WE BROUGHT UP, THIS IS ONLY A THIRD OF THE DOWNTOWN
11:15:29AM PARKING THAT THE CITY CONTROLS, IS THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR
11:15:32AM HAS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THIS AS WELL.
11:15:34AM AND THE WAY WE WOULD KIND OF LAY THIS OUT IS THAT THERE ARE
11:15:38AM THREE MAJOR ACTORS IN PARKING IN DOWNTOWN.
11:15:41AM THE CITY IS ONE OF THEM.
11:15:42AM BUT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP BY HAVING SUCH A BROAD BASE OF
11:15:46AM CONSTITUENTS AND KNOWING ABOUT THE DAY-TO-DAY PARKING NEEDS
11:15:49AM OF ITS MEMBERS ARE ANOTHER, AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE OPERATORS
11:15:52AM WHO MANAGE THE OTHER TWO-THIRDS OF THE PARKING.
11:15:55AM AND WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT FINDING A BALANCE BETWEEN THESE
11:15:59AM PARTNERS EACH WITH ITS OWN RESPONSIBILITY COULD BE A WAY
11:16:03AM FORWARD WITH THIS.
11:16:04AM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HAS ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THE WORK
11:16:06AM THAT'S PROPOSED IN THIS GRAPHIC HERE FROM HAVING DONE THE
11:16:10AM STUDY.
11:16:11AM WE HAVE MET WITH A BROAD BASE OF STAKEHOLDERS, CULTURAL
11:16:14AM INSTITUTIONS, BUSINESSES, THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, THE
11:16:16AM OTHER PRIVATE OPERATORS, AND HAVE BUILT A PRETTY STRONG
11:16:19AM CONSENSUS AROUND THESE IDEAS.
11:16:23AM PEOPLE FEEL SOME OF THESE THINGS WE FOUND AND OBSERVED AND
11:16:26AM SUGGESTED ARE SOLID WAYS FORWARD AND THESE ARE THINGS WE
11:16:30AM NEED TO BE ADDRESSING SO THERE IS STRONG POLITICAL SUPPORT
11:16:32AM FOR THIS.
11:16:33AM IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THIS AND WE
11:16:36AM LOOK FORWARD TO DOING MORE OF THAT TO BRING THIS INTO MORE
11:16:38AM OF A PLAN, IMPLEMENTATION STEPS.
11:16:41AM BUT ALL THREE OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT PARTS OF THIS PROCESS.
11:16:47AM SO I WILL PAUSE ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF
11:16:50AM INFORMATION DELIVERED REALLY QUICKLY.
11:16:52AM I ALSO HAVE SOME COMPARABLE PIECES FROM OTHER CITIES WHO
11:16:57AM HAVE FACED SIMILAR CHALLENGES WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
11:16:59AM BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ME
11:17:01AM QUESTIONS AND WE CAN GO BACK INTO ANY OF THIS AS NEEDED.
11:17:05AM THANK YOU.
11:17:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND SEE IF THE
11:17:09AM AUDIENCE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:11AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:17:13AM MR. SUAREZ.
11:17:13AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET ME ASK YOU.
11:17:15AM I SAW THE EXAMPLES ON ANN ARBOR AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND ONE
11:17:18AM OF THE THINGS YOU PUT ON HERE IS THE CITY WOULD SET PUBLIC
11:17:21AM PRICING.
11:17:22AM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE BOARD EVEN WITH THE PRIVATE
11:17:31AM PROVIDERS?
11:17:31AM >> IT VARIES.
11:17:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO ASK HOW THAT WORKS.
11:17:35AM >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO TO THAT SLIDE?
11:17:37AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: JUST ANSWER THIS QUICK QUESTION.
11:17:40AM DOES ANN ARBOR HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS PRICING WITHIN
11:17:43AM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OR WHEREVER THEY ARE TALKING
11:17:45AM ABOUT IN THEIR PARKING EXAMPLE AND SAY THAT YOU CANNOT GO
11:17:48AM BELOW SOMETHING OR HOW DO THEY DO IT?
11:17:51AM >> ANN ARBOR CONTROLS THE CITY-OWNED PARKING.
11:17:53AM CITY CONTROLS THAT PARKING.
11:17:55AM AND ORDINANCE CONTROLS THAT MUCH.
11:17:56AM THEY DON'T TRY TO GOVERN WHAT ANYONE ELSE CAN CHARGE.
11:18:00AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT BECAUSE
11:18:03AM OBVIOUSLY THROUGH ORDINANCES WE CAN OFFER INCENTIVES OR
11:18:06AM DISINCENTIVES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIVATE PARKING PARTNERS
11:18:09AM DO BECOME PARTNERS SO THAT OUR PRICING IS IF NOT UNIFORM,
11:18:13AM IT'S GOING TO HAVE FOR DIFFERENT USES, AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED
11:18:16AM IN HERE, AND THAT WE CAN HAVE AN OVERALL PROCESS OF SHOWING
11:18:21AM WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK.
11:18:22AM AND THEN HAVE THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP IN CONJUNCTION WITH
11:18:26AM HART OAR ANYBODY ELSE TO PROVIDE MOBILITY OF SO THAT 12
11:18:29AM MINUTE WALK CAN BE A 5-MINUTE RIDE ALONG SOME OF THESE
11:18:33AM PLACES, BECAUSE IF YOU AS YOU MENTIONED AT THE VERY
11:18:37AM BEGINNING THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING.
11:18:39AM THE PROBLEM IS MOBILITY, NOT PARKING.
11:18:41AM YOU TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU DID IT.
11:18:43AM AND THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT SET PRICES, OBVIOUSLY
11:18:47AM WE SET PRICES FOR OUR OWN GARAGES.
11:18:50AM ARE YOU OPINING BASED ON THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE TO
11:18:54AM HAVE A BETTER MEDIAN POINT FOR US FOR OUR PARKING
11:18:59AM FACILITIES?
11:19:00AM BECAUSE YOU MADE THAT COMMENT OF PUBLIC PARKING IS A DOLLAR
11:19:04AM FIFTY ON STREET PARKING IS A DOLLAR SIXTY.
11:19:08AM SEEMS LIKE A VERY SMALL DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE. TWO IS
11:19:10AM THERE -- ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MORE PRICING CHANGES?
11:19:14AM OR JUST SMARTER PRICING OPTIONS?
11:19:18AM >> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I THINK THE ANSWER TO
11:19:21AM THAT IS BOTH OF THOSE.
11:19:22AM AND THE SECOND I'LL TALK ABOUT QUICKLY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
11:19:26AM I BROUGHT UP.
11:19:27AM IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE PRESENTATION.
11:19:29AM BUT WE DO SEE OPPORTUNITY, I MENTIONED MONTHLY PERMIT AS
11:19:32AM LOT, AND REDUCE THE OPPORTUNITY AND DIVERSIFYING THE WAY
11:19:36AM PARKING IS SOLD TO CUSTOMERS.
11:19:39AM SO PART OF THAT IS MORE PRODUCTS, BUT BY DOING THAT YOU END
11:19:43AM UP WITH MORE PRICE POINTS AS WELL.
11:19:45AM SO TO GET TO PRICE, WE THINK THERE'S SORT OF A ROUNDABOUT
11:19:49AM WAY.
11:19:50AM WE ARE VERY EMPHATIC THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RAISING
11:19:53AM PRICES.
11:19:54AM IT'S FINDING THE SWEET SPOTS ABOUT HOW THE MARKET'S DEMANDS
11:19:57AM ARE GOING TO BE MET FOR PARKING.
11:20:01AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND WE NEED TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT
11:20:05AM IN A PARKING APP AND TRANSIT APP THAT ACTUALLY CONNECTS TO
11:20:11AM EACH OTHER SO WE KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF YOUR TIME AND MONEY
11:20:13AM SO THAT IF I HAVE TO PARK AT THE ROYAL LOT, WHICH IS A
11:20:18AM CITY-OWNED SURFACE LOT, THAT I KNOW WHAT THAT COST AND TIME
11:20:22AM IS TO ME IN ORDER TO PARK THERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE LESS
11:20:26AM EXPENSIVE.
11:20:27AM SO I AM TRADING OFF.
11:20:30AM AND I DON'T THINK WE DO ENOUGH OF THAT.
11:20:32AM AND WE ARE REMNANT OF OUR HISTORY SO WE ARE TRYING TO DIG
11:20:36AM OUT OF IT SO TO SPEAK.
11:20:37AM >> WELL, THE GOOD NEWS WITH THAT, MR. SUAREZ, IS THAT ALL
11:20:40AM CITIES ARE LEARNING THIS TO SOME DEGREE.
11:20:43AM EVERYONE IS KIND OF INVENTING THEIR OWN PLAYBOOK HOW TO DEAL
11:20:46AM WITH THEIR ISSUES.
11:20:47AM SO TAMPA IS FAR FROM ALONE IN THAT.
11:20:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
11:20:51AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:20:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON
11:20:53AM ITEM NUMBER 6?
11:20:56AM ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:20:57AM ALL RIGHT, SIR.
11:20:58AM CLOSE IT OUT.
11:20:59AM >> WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
11:21:01AM IT'S BEEN GOOD TO PRESENT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:21:03AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH STAFF.
11:21:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN ARE YOU MOVING BACK TO TAMPA?
11:21:09AM (LAUGHTER).
11:21:09AM >> MIGHT BE PRETTY SOON ACTUALLY.
11:21:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:21:14AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:21:39AM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:21:40AM I HAVE A QUICK HANDOUT FOR YOU HERE.
11:21:57AM SO I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS BUT I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU
11:21:59AM A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TODAY.
11:22:02AM I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REWRITE AND WHAT IT
11:22:06AM ENCOMPASSES.
11:22:07AM I WILL GO THROUGH IT FAIRLY QUICKLY BUT IT IS A LOT OF
11:22:10AM INFORMATION.
11:22:10AM SO YOU ALL RECEIVED A PACKET FROM ME YESTERDAY WHICH IS
11:22:14AM INCLUDED IN THERE AS WELL SO I WILL MOVE THROUGH THOSE
11:22:16AM FAIRLY QUICKLY.
11:22:18AM SO THE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE OF CHAPTER 13, THE TREE AND
11:22:22AM LANDSCAPING CODE, ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF CHANGES, INTENDED TO
11:22:27AM STREAMLINE AND MAKE IT A MORE USER FRIENDLY CODE.
11:22:30AM SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE BUT IS A
11:22:33AM SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM OUR CURRENT CODE STRUCTURE IS TO
11:22:36AM MOVE AWAY FROM GRAND TREES AS A POINT SYSTEM, AS SOME OF YOU
11:22:39AM MAY KNOW, CURRENTLY POINTS ARE ASSIGNED FOR THE SIZE OF THE
11:22:42AM TRUNK, FOR THE SIZE OF THE LIMBS, THE SIZE OF THE CANOPY,
11:22:45AM AND OVERALL SET OF POINTS ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT TREES, AND
11:22:51AM THEN IF IT'S CONSIDERED A GRAND.
11:22:56AM OVER A YEARS THAT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT SYSTEM TO WORK THROUGH.
11:22:59AM BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND CONSISTENTLY IS THAT USUALLY IF THE
11:23:02AM TREE IS 32 INCHES OR GREATER IT'S GOING TO MEET THE MINIMUM
11:23:05AM NUMBER OF POINTS.
11:23:06AM SO IN AN EFFORT FOR SIMPLICITY WE ARE MOVING TO 32-INCH DBH
11:23:12AM TREES WILL BE GRAND TREES.
11:23:14AM 32 INCHES AND UP.
11:23:16AM AND THAT WILL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER, A LITTLE MORE
11:23:19AM USER FRIENDLY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE AND IMMEDIATELY BE ABLE TO
11:23:22AM ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT A TREE IS GRAND.
11:23:24AM IN ADDITION, WE ARE MAKING ANOTHER CHANGE.
11:23:28AM ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT CAME UP ESPECIALLY IN
11:23:32AM CONJUNCTION WITH LEE DEUCING SETBACKS IN ORDER TO SAVE TREES
11:23:35AM WAS TO ADD ANOTHER TYPE OF TREE, AND THAT'S SPECIMEN TREES.
11:23:38AM SO THE SPECIMEN TREES ARE THE SAME SPECIES THAT WOULD BE A
11:23:42AM GRAND TREE.
11:23:44AM BUT SPECIMEN TREES ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
11:23:48AM THEY WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED A PROTECTED TREE FOR PURPOSES
11:23:51AM OF REMOVAL AND OTHER TYPES OF TREATMENT, WITH ONE EXCEPTION
11:23:55AM THAT I WILL GO OVER WITH YOU.
11:23:56AM SO WHY THE 24 INCHES?
11:23:59AM I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT BRIEFLY.
11:24:02AM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S URBAN ECOLOGICAL ANALYSIS 2006-2007,
11:24:06AM THERE ARE SORT OF TWO BREAK POINTS THAT YOU WILL SEE HERE IN
11:24:09AM TERMS OF CARBON SEQUESTRATION.
11:24:12AM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BENEFITS OF THESE TREES GIVE US,
11:24:15AM CARBON SEQUESTRATION BEING ONE OF THEM, STORMWATER
11:24:18AM RETENTION, SHADE.
11:24:20AM THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS THESE TREES GIVE US ESPECIALLY
11:24:23AM THESE VERY LARGE TREES.
11:24:24AM AND YOU WILL NOTE HERE THAT RIGHT AROUND 24 INCHES, THERE IS
11:24:28AM A BREAK POINT FOR CARBON STORAGE WHERE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
11:24:32AM GREATER CARBON STORAGE IN THESE 24-INCH AND LARGER TREES.
11:24:36AM YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER INTERESTING JUMP HERE RIGHT AROUND THE
11:24:38AM 32-INCH MARK WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING GRAND TREES.
11:24:41AM SO WE ARE TARGETING AND PROTECTING THOSE TREES THAT GIVING
11:24:44AM US THE ABSOLUTE MOST BENEFITS TO OUR SYSTEM.
11:24:48AM SIMILARLY, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY AND URBAN
11:24:52AM FOREST ANALYSIS FROM 2016 THAT YOU HEARD PRESENTED IN APRIL,
11:24:59AM YOU SEE THERE'S SOME SORT OF BREAK POINTS HAPPENING HERE
11:25:03AM ALONG THE 24-INCH AS WELL AS THE 32-INCH.
11:25:06AM THESE ARE THE VERY LARGEST TREES IN THE CITY.
11:25:09AM YOU GET INTO VERY SMALL NUMBERS IN TERMS OF HOW MANY TREES
11:25:13AM WE HAVE OF THESE SIZES ONCE YOU GET INTO THESE LARGE SIZE
11:25:16AM TREES.
11:25:16AM SO THESE ARE NOT A TYPICAL TREE.
11:25:18AM THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ATYPICAL TREE THAT YOU WILL BE
11:25:21AM RUNNING INTO.
11:25:23AM SO WE HAVE ADDED THE CONCEPT OF THE SPECIMEN TREE TO THIS,
11:25:27AM AND THE FIRST TIME THIS COMES UP AS AN ISSUE IS THE QUESTION
11:25:34AM OF PRUNING.
11:25:35AM SO AS YOU KNOW, AND I ALSO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET A GENERAL
11:25:39AM TIMELINE AND DUE DATE FOR THE WHERE HE WRITE.
11:25:44AM AS YOU DIRECTED THE LAST TIME WE HAVE MET SIGNIFICANTLY AND
11:25:48AM EXTENSIVELY WITH THE INTERESTED PARTIES ON THIS.
11:25:51AM WE FORMED A WORKING GROUP, AND MET EVERY FRIDAY.
11:25:54AM I THINK SOME OF YOU SAW US IN DECEMBER FOR OUR FIRST ONE.
11:25:57AM WE CAMPED OUT DOWN THERE IN THE MASCOTTE ROOM.
11:26:01AM SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING CONSISTENTLY.
11:26:04AM WE ALSO HAD TWO LARGE PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH A FAIRLY GOOD
11:26:07AM TURNOUT WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AND
11:26:10AM A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK.
11:26:11AM BUT THERE ARE THREE POLICY DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN
11:26:15AM ABLE TO COME TO AND CONSENSUS ON.
11:26:18AM SO I HAVE THOSE HERE FOR YOU AND HOPEFULLY IN AN
11:26:21AM EASY-TO-READ FORMAT TODAY.
11:26:23AM THE FIRST ONE IS THE PRUNING.
11:26:25AM SO THE ASSOCIATION HAS SUGGESTED THAT IF YOU HAVE A LARGE
11:26:33AM LIMBS ON THE TREE THAT FOR GRAND TREES WHETHER THEY ARE ON
11:26:36AM PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PROPERTY, THAT SHOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR
11:26:40AM PRUNING, AND ALSO FOR PROTECTING TREES IF THEY HAVE A 4-INCH
11:26:44AM LIMB OVER RIGHT-OF-WAY, BECAUSE THERE YOU HAVE A PUBLIC
11:26:46AM SAFETY, HEALTH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A TREE LIMIT EXTENDING
11:26:50AM OVER RIGHT-OF-WAY, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DOING THOSE
11:26:53AM TYPES OF TRIMMINGS CORRECTLY.
11:26:55AM SO THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, THE BUILDING INDUSTRY IN
11:26:57AM GENERAL, THAT IS THEIR SUGGESTION.
11:27:00AM THE TREE GROUPS, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD
11:27:05AM ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL AS THE TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING
11:27:07AM THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED
11:27:09AM IN THE LAST YEAR, THEY ALSO HAD A RECOMMENDATION, THEY SAID
11:27:13AM GRAND AND SPECIMEN TREES.
11:27:15AM THEN YOU HAVE THESE LARGER TREES.
11:27:17AM AND THE CONCERN WITH REQUIRING A PERMIT COMES OUT OF YOU
11:27:20AM DON'T WANT TO PRUNE THESE TREES IMPROPERLY AND ACCIDENTALLY
11:27:25AM KILLING THEM.
11:27:25AM BY TELLING PEOPLE COME IN, GET A PERMIT, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
11:27:29AM SOMEONE WHO IS QUALIFIED TO DO THIS PRUNING WORK, IT'S NOT A
11:27:32AM GUY WITH A CHAINSAW THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, THE
11:27:37AM IDEA OF A PERMIT IS MAKING SURE YOU ARE HAVING IT DONE BY
11:27:40AM SOMEONE WHO IS QUALIFIED SAND IS GOING TO DO IT CORRECTLY
11:27:42AM AND NOT DAMAGE THE TREE AND GET THEM IN TROUBLE WITH CODE
11:27:45AM ENFORCEMENT.
11:27:46AM WE ALSO HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AND THE CURRENT CODE,
11:27:50AM ANY TREE, A LIMB OF A GRAND TREE REQUIRES A PERMIT.
11:27:55AM AND FOR THE REASONS I JUST GAVE YOU, STAFF WOULD REALLY LIKE
11:27:59AM TO SEE THAT.
11:28:01AM ARBORISTS HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN THAT IF YOU REMOVE THAT
11:28:04AM REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR ANY WORK ON A GRAND TREE
11:28:06AM THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL HIRE THE WRONG
11:28:12AM PERSON AND ACTUALLY DAMAGE THE TREE SIGNIFICANTLY.
11:28:14AM SO THAT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
11:28:16AM AND THAT IS THE POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT YOU COULD SELECT FOR
11:28:20AM PRUNING WORK.
11:28:22AM AND JUST TO GO OVER QUICKLY, CURRENT CODE IS THE GRAND TREE
11:28:27AM LIMBS OF ANY SIZE, AND PROTECTED TREE LIMBS GREATER THAN OR
11:28:32AM EQUAL TO 4 INCHES OVER RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:28:34AM THAT'S FOR CODE.
11:28:35AM IS THERE A QUESTION?
11:28:39AM >>HARRY COHEN: ON NUMBER 1, COULDN'T YOU JUST SPLIT THE
11:28:45AM BABY AT 16 FEET?
11:28:46AM >>KRISTIN MORA: WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SCIENTIFIC BASIS
11:28:51AM FOR ANY NUMBER OF THAT WE SELECT.
11:28:54AM THE CONCERN WITH JUST SELECTING SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE,
11:28:58AM THERE WOULD NOT BE A SCIENTIFIC OR MATHEMATICAL BASIS FOR
11:29:01AM THAT.
11:29:02AM >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, THERE MUST BE A SCIENTIFIC OR
11:29:04AM MATHEMATICAL BASIS FOR THE 12 OR 20.
11:29:07AM SO THEORETICALLY, WE COULD COME UP WITH THE SAME BASIS, I
11:29:12AM WOULD THINK, TO SUPPORT THE 16 INCHES.
11:29:16AM JUST A SUGGESTION.
11:29:16AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THERE MAY BE A 15.
11:29:19AM I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE KATHY BECK COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT
11:29:23AM BUT THAT WOULD BE A NATURAL BREAK POINT AS WELL.
11:29:25AM SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT ALSO.
11:29:50AM >>KATHY BECK: KATHY BECK, NATURAL RESOURCES COORDINATOR.
11:29:53AM THE 15 FEET WAS DISTANCE THAT WAS DECIDED FOR GRAND TREES,
11:29:57AM AND PROTECTING WHAT MAY BE STRUCTURAL ROOT SIZE.
11:30:01AM SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT THAT'S THE
11:30:05AM DISTANCE WHERE THE STRUCTURAL ROOTS TO KEEP THE TREE UPRATE.
11:30:08AM >>HARRY COHEN: WE COULD -- 15 WOULD BE A DEFENSIBLE NUMBER
11:30:18AM THAT WOULD MEET IN BETWEEN.
11:30:20AM >> YES.
11:30:21AM AND IT'S THE CURRENT --
11:30:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BUT SHE'S SAYING 15.
11:30:32AM >> THAT'S THE WAY WE CURRENTLY ENFORCE IT, YES.
11:30:35AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO INSTEAD OF CHANGING THE PROTECTIVE ROOT
11:30:45AM ZONE WE WOULD LEAVE IT AT 15 FEET.
11:30:47AM YES?
11:30:48AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I THINK WHAT I AM HEARING IS YOU COULD JUST
11:30:51AM SET IT AT A FLAT 15 FEET INSTEAD OF STATING PROTECTIVE ROOT
11:30:55AM ZONE AND THE 15 FEET -- AND KEEPING IN MIND THERE MIGHT
11:31:00AM STILL BE SITUATIONS WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS MORE THAN 15 FEET
11:31:02AM BUT STILL WOULD IMPACT THE TREE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT MIGHT
11:31:05AM STILL NEED TO BE REMOVED, BUT FOR PURPOSE OF TREE REMOVAL
11:31:09AM ZONE REMOVALS, IT WAS WITHIN 15 FEET, THEN IT WOULD ALLOW
11:31:15AM AUTOMATIC REMOVAL.
11:31:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:31:18AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:31:20AM ALL RIGHT.
11:31:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: LET'S WAIT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A
11:31:40AM LOT, I THINK.
11:31:41AM MAYBE WE WON'T.
11:31:42AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CONTINUING WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES WE HAVE
11:31:45AM IN THE REWRITE, AS YOU MAY KNOW, TODAY WE DETERMINED
11:31:51AM MITIGATION IS INCH BY INCH.
11:31:54AM NOW, YOU HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED A CHANGE TO CANOPY MITIGATION
11:31:57AM AND THE, FOR SHORT TERMINOLOGY, THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU
11:32:04AM PASSED ON NOVEMBER 15 AND TO GOP INTO EFFECT ON APRIL
11:32:07AM 15th OF THIS YEAR.
11:32:08AM SO JUST GOING OVER IT VERY QUICKLY, WE HAVE CHANGED FROM
11:32:14AM INCH TO INCH TO REPLACING CANOPY FOR CANOPY.
11:32:17AM AND THAT DOES IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A VERY LARGE TREE, WITH AN
11:32:23AM EXCELLENT CANOPY THAT IS MAKING A HUGE CONTRIBUTION TO THIS
11:32:27AM CITY, AND YOU ARE REMOVING THAT TREE, YOU ARE GOING TO NEED
11:32:29AM TO REPLACE THAT TREE'S FUNCTION, AND THERE IS A 5-YEAR
11:32:35AM PARITY FOR TREES THAT ARE PLANTED BACK, AND THEN YOU GET,
11:32:39AM YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WHAT THOSE TREES WOULD
11:32:41AM HAVE GROWN INTO, ASSUMING THEY ALL SURVIVE.
11:32:46AM SO WE DO HAVE THAT PARITY PUT INTO THE CALCULATIONS.
11:32:51AM BUT THE IDEA TO BE REPLACING A CANOPY.
11:32:54AM SO ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU HAVE A TREE THAT HAS A VERY
11:32:58AM DIMINISHED CANOPY AND IS NOT A VERY HEALTHY TREE AND IS
11:33:01AM REALLY NOT CONTRIBUTING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING
11:33:04AM FOR IN THE QUALITY TREE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO AS MUCH
11:33:08AM REPLACEMENT.
11:33:08AM SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY BE REPLACING THE
11:33:12AM FUNCTION OF THESE TREES AND THEIR BENEFIT TO THE CITY AS
11:33:15AM OPPOSED TO REPLACING THE TIMBER.
11:33:18AM OF THE TREE.
11:33:20AM AND JUST FOR SOME QUICK EXAMPLES.
11:33:23AM AND THESE WERE PREPARED BY RICHARD PETERIKA. WE APPRECIATE
11:33:29AM HIS HELP THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
11:33:31AM HE HAS PREPARED FOR US SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW THESE DIFFER.
11:33:36AM SO THIS IS A LIVE OAK THAT HAS GROWN IN THE OPEN SPACE.
11:33:40AM IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY BUILDINGS, OTHER THINGS ENCROACHING ON
11:33:44AM IT.
11:33:45AM IT'S AN EXCELLENT TREE, DOING A LOT OF WORK, SEQUESTERING A
11:33:49AM LOT OF CARBON, ABSORBING A LOT OF STORMWATER, HELPING WITH
11:33:53AM RUNOFF. THIS TREE IS DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR OUR CITY.
11:33:58AM UNDERSTOOD OUR CURRENT CODE, BASED ON THE ESTIMATIONS AND
11:34:02AM CALCULATIONS HE HAS DONE, THIS IS A LIVE OAK WHICH YOU GET
11:34:08AM REDUCTIONS BASED ON THE DESIRABILITY OF THE SPECIES.
11:34:10AM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A LESS DESIRABLE TREE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO
11:34:15AM LESS MITIGATION, A MORE DESIRABLE TREE YOU HAVE TO DO FULL
11:34:19AM MITIGATION FOR.
11:34:20AM SO DOING THE CALCULATIONS UNDERSTOOD OUR CURRENT CODE,
11:34:24AM REPLACING INCH FOR INCH ON TRUNK, IT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE
11:34:28AM ABOUT 33 TREES.
11:34:30AM BUT UNDER THE NEW CODE THIS WOULD BE 51 TREES.
11:34:33AM SO SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TREES, BUT THIS IS A VERY, VERY
11:34:36AM QUALITY TREE, AND IT'S PROBABLY KIND OF THE EXCEPTION.
11:34:41AM ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU ARE REPLACING A TREE THAT HAS HAD
11:34:51AM A ROUGH LIFE, THIS TREE IS NOT DOING AS MUCH WORK AS THE
11:34:58AM OTHER TREE.
11:35:00AM IT'S HAD A TOUGH TIME.
11:35:01AM IT'S PROBABLY NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN
11:35:03AM PRUNED VERY EXTENSIVELY.
11:35:06AM UNDER OUR CURRENT CODE, WE IGNORE THE FACT THAT THIS TREE IS
11:35:09AM NOT A HEALTHY TREE, IS NOT DOING WELL.
11:35:12AM WE IGNORE THAT IT IS NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE, AND WE REQUIRE
11:35:17AM 28 TREES OF REPLACEMENT.
11:35:18AM BUT IN THE NEW CODE THIS WILL REQUIRE JUST 18 TREES FOR
11:35:22AM REPLACEMENT.
11:35:23AM SO WE ARE RECOGNIZING WHAT THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY GIVING TO
11:35:26AM THE CITY AND TRYING TO REQUIRE REPLACEMENT ON THAT BASIS.
11:35:33AM SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
11:35:36AM ONE OF THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WE HAVE IS UNDER OUR
11:35:39AM CURRENT CODE, IF YOU TAKE OUT A BUNCH OF PALMS, YOU HAVE TO
11:35:45AM REPLACE THEM BACK WITH SOME PERCENTAGE OF SHADE TREES, 60%
11:35:49AM SHADE TREES.
11:35:50AM IF YOU TAKE OUT A LIVE OAK, YOU CAN REPLACE IT BACK AT LEAST
11:35:54AM IN PART WITH PALMS.
11:35:55AM DOESN'T MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE.
11:35:57AM SO WHAT WE HAVE CHANGED UNDER THIS CODE IS WE HAVE TYPE FOR
11:36:01AM TYPE REPLACE IT.
11:36:02AM IF YOU ARE REMOVING ORNAMENT A.M. TREES, PUTTING BACK
11:36:04AM ORNAMENTAL TREES. IF YOU ARE REMOVING SHADE TREES YOU ARE
11:36:07AM GOING TO BE PUTTING BACK SHADE TREES SO THAT'S A GOOD
11:36:10AM CHANGE.
11:36:10AM ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES AND SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED FOR
11:36:13AM QUITE A BIT IS THE CHANGE TO CAMPHOR TREES AND HOW WE TREAT
11:36:17AM THOSE.
11:36:18AM A CAMPHOR TREE IS LISTED AS INVASIVE SPECIES, AND A CAMPHOR
11:36:23AM IS AN INVASIVE SPICES WITHIN 50 FEET OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL
11:36:28AM AREA.
11:36:29AM IF YOU HAVE A CAMPHO, THAT CAN BECOME A VERY INVASIVE
11:36:37AM SPECIES, AND BE A PROBLEM.
11:36:38AM BUT A CAMPHOR IN A NONENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA HAS A
11:36:43AM LOT OF BENEFIT.
11:36:45AM THERE'S A LOT OF CAMPHORS IN THE CITY THAT ARE IN EXCELLENT
11:36:47AM HEALTH AND DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN THE
11:36:52AM ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA.
11:36:53AM SO WE CHANGED THE CODE TO SAY YOU CAN ALWAYS REMOVE A
11:36:56AM CAMPHOR TREE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE GRAND TREE
11:36:59AM REMOVAL PROCESS EVEN IF IT HE WOULD QUALIFY FOR 32 INCHES OR
11:37:03AM GREATER YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE GRAND TREE REMOVAL
11:37:06AM PROCESS IN ORDER TO TAKE OUT A CAMPHOR.
11:37:08AM YOU CAN JUST REMOVE THEM.
11:37:09AM NOW YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THEM, BUT YOU CAN JUST REMOVE
11:37:12AM THEM.
11:37:13AM IF THEY ARE NEAR AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA YOU MUST
11:37:16AM REMOVE THEM, AND MITIGATE FOR THEM.
11:37:19AM BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT IN PLACES WHERE
11:37:21AM THEY BECOME INVASIVE BUT WHERE THEY ARE PROVIDING BENEFITS
11:37:24AM TO THE CITY.
11:37:25AM YOU CAN KEEP THEM AND GET CREDIT FOR THEM.
11:37:30AM SO THIS LAST ONE ON THIS PAGE IS A BIG POINT AND IT'S
11:37:36AM SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERYONE WAS VERY PLEASED WITH.
11:37:38AM SO CURRENTLY UNDER THE CODE IF YOU REMOVE TREES YOU HAVE TO
11:37:41AM PLANT THE TREES BACK ON YOUR PROPERTY, OR ON SOME OTHER
11:37:45AM PROPERTY WITHIN THE OVERALL PROJECT, ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:37:48AM WHICH AS WE KNOW IS ALWAYS A PERFECT PLACE TO PUT TREES.
11:37:52AM WE HAVE CHANGED THAT.
11:37:54AM YOU CAN NOW PLANT TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHIN THE
11:37:57AM PLANNING DISTRICT, SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY
11:38:00AM TO DEVELOPERS, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:38:04AM ASSOCIATIONS HAVE LOOKED AT PUTTING UP WEBSITES FOR PEOPLE
11:38:07AM THAT ARE INTERESTED IN RECEIVING TREES, AND THOSE WILL BE
11:38:10AM ABLE TO PLANT TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND RECEIVE
11:38:13AM MITIGATION CREDIT FOR THEM.
11:38:14AM SO YOU GET THE TREES BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AS QUICKLY AS
11:38:18AM POSSIBLE.
11:38:18AM SO THAT'S A REALLY POSITIVE CHANGE.
11:38:29AM YOU ALSO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT OF 50% -- 60% NATIVE.
11:38:34AM ALL MITIGATION TREES ARE NOW PROTECTED WHICH IS A HUGE
11:38:38AM BENEFIT.
11:38:39AM CURRENTLY, SOME PLANTS, THE HOMEOWNER COULD COME OUT AND
11:38:43AM REMOVE THOSE.
11:38:44AM THAT WON'T THE CASE ANYMORE.
11:38:46AM THEY WILL BE A PROTECTED TREE AND WILL NEED TO DEAL WITH
11:38:49AM REMOVAL OF THAT TREE IF WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THAT
11:38:52AM MITIGATION TREE.
11:38:53AM TREE SURVEY.
11:38:55AM CURRENTLY WE RECEIVE A LOT OF VERY BAD TREE SURVEYS IN THE
11:38:58AM CITY.
11:38:59AM WE GET A LOT OF TREES THAT SAY IT'S A 28 -- IF IT'S 28-INCH
11:39:10AM LAUREL OAK, YOU GO OUT AND SAY 40-INCH LIVE OAK.
11:39:14AM WE GET A LOT OF INSTANCES OF THAT IN THE CITY.
11:39:16AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE NOW REQUIRING IS AN ARBORIST
11:39:19AM VERIFICATION OF WHAT APPEARS ON THAT TREE SURVEY.
11:39:21AM AND THIS IS REQUIRED FOR ALL TREE REMOVAL APPLICATIONS.
11:39:24AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO REMOVE A THE TREE WE WANT TO KNOW
11:39:28AM WHAT TREE IT IS.
11:39:29AM BUT THERE IS A CLARIFICATION.
11:39:32AM IT CAN ALSO BE A CITY ARBORIST.
11:39:34AM SO IF YOU APPLY FOR AND HAVE A CITY ARBORIST COME OUT THEY
11:39:37AM CAN DO THE VERIFICATION OF THAT SURVEY SO YOU ARE NOT
11:39:40AM REQUIRED TO HIRE AN ARBORIST BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT
11:39:42AM IF THAT EXPEDITES THE PROCESS FOR YOU.
11:39:47AM SOME OTHER CLARIFICATIONS CURRENTLY, HOW THE TREES ARE
11:39:51AM APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:39:52AM YOU HAVE ACTUALLY NEVER SEEN ONE OF THESE BUT WE WANTED TO
11:39:56AM CLARIFY IF YOU ARE GOING TO APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL IT HAS TO
11:39:58AM BE ON THE BASIS THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH THE DETERMINATION.
11:40:02AM SO WE HAVE ADDED IN THAT YOU ARE GOING NEED AN ARBORIST
11:40:06AM REPORT THAT DISAGREES WITH OUR CITY ARBORIST IN ORDER TO
11:40:08AM HAVE SOMETHING FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER.
11:40:11AM OTHERWISE YOU HAVE A LOT OF TESTIMONY ABOUT I DON'T WANT
11:40:14AM THEM TO REMOVE THE TREE, BUT YOU HAVE A CITY ARBORIST SAYING
11:40:17AM IT'S HAZARDOUS.
11:40:19AM WE DIDN'T WANT SITUATIONS LIKE THAT TO OCCUR SO THEY NEED TO
11:40:22AM HAVE AN ARBORIST REPORT IF THEY ARE GOING TO COME IN ON
11:40:26AM THOSE ISSUES.
11:40:26AM MOVING ON.
11:40:28AM THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE.
11:40:31AM YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS ALREADY.
11:40:33AM YOU HAVE HEARD A BIT ABOUT IT.
11:40:35AM SO THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE IS ADDED FOR THOSE LOTS THAT 65
11:40:38AM FEET OR LESS IN WIDTH, 130 FEET OR LESS IN DEPTH, AND 6500
11:40:44AM SQUARE FEET OR LESS IN SIZE.
11:40:46AM AND YOU THEN TAKE THE PRIMARY SETBACKS, FILL IN AN
11:40:51AM ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET FOR SIDE YARDS AND THAN TAMPA
11:40:55AM INTERNATIONAL 10 FEET FOR REAR YARDS.
11:40:57AM THAT FORMS THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE. THIS IS THE AREA WHERE ON
11:41:00AM THOSE LOTS WHICH WE HAVE TERMED TRZ ELIGIBLE, THOSE ARE
11:41:05AM THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN CONSIDER A TREE REMOVAL
11:41:10AM ADMINISTRATIVELY, WITHOUT THE DRV PROCESS.
11:41:13AM ANY LOTS THAT DO NOT QUALIFY FOR TREE REMOVAL ZONE OR IF
11:41:16AM THERE'S A TREE ON THE LOT THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THAT
11:41:19AM DOES NOT OTHERWISE QUALIFY FOR REMOVAL, IT MIGHT NOT BE IN
11:41:22AM THE REMOVAL ZONE OR THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ISSUES, MIGHT BE
11:41:25AM FAR ENOUGH FROM THE STRUCTURE TO NOT FALL WITHIN THE TRZ
11:41:29AM REMOVAL, THOSE WILL ALSO GO TO THE DRV.
11:41:35AM THIS IS GRAND TREE REMOVAL, THE CLARIFICATION.
11:41:37AM SO ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT QUALIFY TREE REMOVAL ZONE FOR
11:41:41AM NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREE GOES TO THE DRV.
11:41:46AM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TRZ -- THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TODAY.
11:41:53AM I'LL MENTION ON THE POLICY ISSUES, AS YOU KNOW ON JANUARY
11:41:58AM 17th, YOU MOVED AND TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING
11:42:01AM COMMISSION THE AUTOMATIC SET BACK REDUCTIONS WHICH ARE 40%
11:42:08AM YEAR YARDS, A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR 25% SIDE YARD, AUTOMATIC
11:42:15AM 20-FOOT SIDE YARD AND 10% WILLED BUILDING HEIGHT INCREASE,
11:42:20AM AND A 25% FRONT YARD REGARDLESS OF WHICH PLANNING DISTRICT
11:42:26AM IT'S IN.
11:42:27AM SO THOSE ARE THE AUTOMATIC REDUCTIONS PLUS THE ONE SIDE YARD
11:42:31AM DESIGN EXCEPTION REDUCTION.
11:42:37AM THE TREE ADVOCATES HAVE SUGGESTED REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT
11:42:40AM OF THE LOTS TRZ ELIGIBLE IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THE AUTOMATIC
11:42:45AM REDUCTIONS.
11:42:46AM THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME RESTRUCTURING OF WHAT WE HAVE
11:42:49AM ALREADY DONE IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE TO THE
11:42:51AM ORDINANCE, BECAUSE WE HAVE STRUCTURED THE EXCEPTIONS FOR
11:42:54AM PARKLAND ESTATES AND OTHER THINGS AROUND THOSE.
11:42:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:43:02AM GOTTEN SOME CORRESPONDENCE ON THAT AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON
11:43:05AM THAT.
11:43:06AM IT SEEMS LIKE OWN FURTHER RESEARCH, THE PARKLAND ESTATES
11:43:11AM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CODIFIED IN THEIR OVERLAY
11:43:16AM DISTRICT ARE PROTECTED UNDER STATE LAW WHICH TRUMPS THE
11:43:20AM CITY.
11:43:21AM IS THAT CORRECT?
11:43:22AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:43:23AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THERE IS NO PURPOSE TO US SPECIFICALLY
11:43:27AM EXEMPTING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY EXEMPT.
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11:44:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: PERHAPS THE SETBACK REDUCTION OPTIONS SHOULD
11:44:32AM APPLY TO ALL LOTS.
11:44:33AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, THAT WAS A POLICY
11:44:39AM DIRECTIVE FROM CITY COUNCIL THAT LARGER LOTS, LOTS LARGER
11:44:42AM THAN THE TRZ LOTS, HAD MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR SHIFTING AND
11:44:46AM SAVING TREES.
11:44:47AM THAT WAS NOT TRUE OF TREE REMOVAL ZONE LOTS.
11:44:51AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THEREFORE WOULDN'T YOU NEED THE SETBACK
11:44:54AM REDUCTIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE ROOM TO WORK IN?
11:44:57AM >>KRISTIN MORA: EXACTLY.
11:44:58AM THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR POLICY.
11:45:00AM NOW YOU CAN CHANGE THAT POLICY OBVIOUSLY.
11:45:01AM BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIRECTIVE ON THAT.
11:45:04AM >>HARRY COHEN: SO THAT'S REALLY UP TO US THEN TO DECIDE
11:45:08AM WHERE DO WE WANT TO DEFINE THE LIMIT ON WHO CAN MOVE INTO
11:45:11AM THE SETBACK?
11:45:12AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CORRECT.
11:45:13AM >>HARRY COHEN: AND WHAT SIZE OF LOT IS IT REASONABLE TO NOT
11:45:18AM ALLOW THAT ANYMORE?
11:45:20AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CORRECT.
11:45:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT MR. COHEN JUST SAID ABOUT THE SIZE
11:45:26AM OF THE LOT 15,000 SQUARE FOOT, WHAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
11:45:30AM BUILD A HOME LARGER THAN THE NORMAL ON THAT LOT THAT'S
11:45:35AM APPLICABLE AND MEETS THE GUIDELINES OF THE SETBACK?
11:45:38AM WHAT HAPPENS IF A TREE IS IN THE WAY?
11:45:39AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO THE WAY THAT THE AUTOMATIC SETBACK
11:45:43AM REDUCTIONS WORK IS IF THERE IS A 24-INCH OR LARGER TREES,
11:45:46AM THESE WOULD BE THE SEES MEN TREES, 24-INCH OR LARGER TREE
11:45:50AM AND THEY NEED TO UTILIZE THAT REDUCTION IN SETBACKS TO SAVE
11:45:53AM THAT TREE TO PRESERVE IT AND NOT REMOVE IT, THEN THEY ARE
11:45:57AM AUTOMATICALLY ALLOWED THOSE REDUCTIONS.
11:45:59AM SO THAT'S THE WAY IT WOULD WORK.
11:46:01AM THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IN THE CONJUNCTION WITH PRESERVING A
11:46:05AM 24-INCH OR LARGER TREE.
11:46:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO YOU CAN CHANGE A SETBACK TO PROTECT
11:46:09AM THE TREE.
11:46:10AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CORRECT.
11:46:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:46:13AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION
11:46:17AM ON THAT.
11:46:19AM THE COROLLARY TO THAT IS THE REASONABLE RECONFIGURATION.
11:46:23AM SO IF YOU ARE NOT DOING A TRZ REMOVAL, IF YOU ARE GOING TO
11:46:27AM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR A NONHAZARD EYES GRAND TREE
11:46:31AM REMOVAL, CURRENTLY THERE ARE TEN REASONABLE USE CRITERIA.
11:46:34AM BUT THAT'S NOT THE BEST METHOD FOR DETERMINING WHEN A TREE
11:46:38AM CAN BE REMOVED BECAUSE LET'S SAY A SINGLE-FAMILY, YOU ARE
11:46:42AM BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, THAT'S SORT OF INHERENTLY A
11:46:45AM REASONABLE USE FOR THAT PROPERTY SO THAT'S REALLY THE BEST
11:46:47AM QUESTION THAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING.
11:46:49AM THE QUESTION WE SHOULD BE ASKING IS CAN YOU HAVE THAT HOUSE
11:46:52AM AND THAT TREE?
11:46:53AM AND THAT'S THE QUESTION WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE INTO WITH THE
11:46:55AM NEW CODE.
11:46:56AM SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THE 10 REASONABLE USE CRITERIA, WE NOW
11:47:01AM HAVE A STRUCTURE OF REASONABLE RECONFIGURATION.
11:47:03AM THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS OF CAN YOU SHIFT THE HOUSE INTO THE
11:47:07AM SETBACKS?
11:47:09AM CAN YOU MOVE A ROOM FOR ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO THE OTHER?
11:47:13AM CAN YOU MIRROR IMAGE THE HOUSE AND CHANGE ITS ORIENTATION?
11:47:17AM YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU SHIFT THAT PROPOSED STRUCTURE AROUND
11:47:21AM THAT PROPERTY AND HAVE THE TREE AND THE HOUSE?
11:47:23AM AND THAT'S THE INQUIRY WE ARE ASKING EVERYONE TO MAKE. IF
11:47:28AM THEY COME IN FOR A TREE REMOVAL THE NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF
11:47:33AM WILL BE UNDERTAKING THAT.
11:47:34AM AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF UNDERTAKES A LOT OF THAT
11:47:37AM INQUIRY BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO THE QUESTION OF HOW CLOSE CAN
11:47:39AM YOU GET TO THE TREE?
11:47:40AM AND YOU CAN GET WITHIN THE TREE'S PROTECTIVE REZONE BY
11:47:45AM DOING, IN SOME INSTANCES, BY DOING -- SEEING WHERE THE ROOTS
11:47:51AM ARE AND DOING A SUSPENDED FLOOR OVER THE SECTION OF THE
11:47:54AM ROOTS.
11:47:55AM SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH A GREAT DEAL OF
11:47:58AM SUCCESS IN THE CITY, A LOT OF HOUSES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BE
11:48:01AM BUILT WESTBOUND THE SUSPENDED FLOOR AND SAVE THE TREE.
11:48:04AM BUT THAT IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION, AN INDIVIDUAL QUESTION
11:48:07AM THAT HAS TO BE ASKED FOR EACH TREE.
11:48:09AM AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF DOES THAT TODAY, BUT THIS
11:48:12AM CODIFIES IT AND SAYS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF WILL ASK
11:48:17AM THAT QUESTION AND MAKE A WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION TO THE
11:48:19AM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD THAT THIS IS AN INSTANCE WHERE A TREE
11:48:24AM MIGHT BE SAVABLE OR THIS IS AN INSTANCE WHERE THERE'S NO WAY
11:48:27AM TO SAVE THIS TREE.
11:48:30AM SO THAT'S THE NEW REQUIREMENT.
11:48:32AM NOW WE GET INTO THE MEAT OF IT.
11:48:34AM SO HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE TO SHIFT THAT HOUSE IN ORDER TO TRY
11:48:38AM TO SAVE THAT TREE?
11:48:40AM AND THIS IS WHERE THE QUESTION COMBS IN AND THIS IS WHERE
11:48:43AM THE POLICY DECISION BECOMES AN ISSUE.
11:48:46AM WHAT WE HAVE IT SET AT IN THE DRAFT OF THE CODE IS YOU HAVE
11:48:49AM TO UTILIZE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
11:48:51AM SO IT'S 10% OR 25% IN THE FRONT AND REAR DEPENDING UPON THE
11:48:56AM PLANNING DISTRICT.
11:48:57AM SOUTH TAMPA ALLOWS 10%.
11:48:58AM UNIVERSITY ALLOWS 25% FOR EXAMPLE.
11:49:02AM SO YOU HAVE TO UTILIZE ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF REDUCTIONS.
11:49:05AM IF YOU ARE SHIFTING THE HOUSE THAT AMOUNT ALLOWS YOU TO SAVE
11:49:07AM THE TREE, THEN YOU HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT DESIGN EXCEPTION AND
11:49:10AM TRY TO SAVE THE TREE THAT WAY.
11:49:12AM IT ALSO ALLOWS A 20-FOOT SIDE YARD AND A 10% BUILDING HEIGHT
11:49:16AM INCREASE SO THOSE ARE OTHER DESIGN EXCEPTIONS YOU CAN USE TO
11:49:19AM TRY TO SAVE THE TREE.
11:49:21AM THE TREE ADVOCATE GROUPS HAVE SUGGESTED -- AND THIS IS A
11:49:25AM POLICY QUESTION FOR YOU TODAY -- IS WHETHER YOU ALSO HAVE TO
11:49:28AM USE THE NEW AUTOMATIC REDUCTIONS IN YARDS THAT YOU
11:49:32AM TRANSMITTED ON THE 17th.
11:49:33AM SO THAT WILL BE AGAIN A 25% FRONT YARD, TO THE PLANNING
11:49:38AM DISTRICT -- EXCUSE ME.
11:49:40AM OKAY.
11:49:42AM 40% IN THE REAR YARD AND UP TO 25% OF THE SIDE YARDS.
11:49:48AM SO THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS SHOULD YOU HAVE TO SHIFT FULL
11:49:53AM 40% INTO THE YEAR YARD IN ORDER TO TRY TO SAVE A TREE?
11:49:58AM WITH THE BUILDING TREE IS TELLING US IS THAT A HUGE SHIFT,
11:50:02AM THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY GOES VERY WELL
11:50:05AM BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
11:50:09AM DETERMINED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS WHERE THOSE ADDITIONAL
11:50:11AM REDUCTIONS, NOT THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE
11:50:15AM REQUIRED TO UTILIZE IN EVERY INSTANCE TO TRY TO SAVE A TREE.
11:50:18AM THE TREE GROUPS HAVE SUGGESTED THAT WILL SAVE MORE TREES.
11:50:22AM SO THAT IS THE OTHER POLICY DECISIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU
11:50:27AM TODAY.
11:50:37AM YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT
11:50:40AM DECISION BUT I WILL PRESENT THAT TO YOU.
11:50:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:50:43AM ANYTHING FURTHER?
11:50:44AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES, VERY QUICKLY JUST A COUPLE MORE
11:50:47AM POINTS.
11:50:48AM ON THE VRB REMOVAL YOU ARE DOING THIS CONFIGURATION
11:50:51AM ANALYSIS.
11:50:52AM THERE'S ALSO AN ANALYSIS THAT WE ARE REQUIRING THAT THE VRB
11:50:55AM UNDERTAKE WHICH IS HOW MUCH WILL IT COST FOR SAVE THE TREE?
11:51:01AM HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT GOING TO COST?
11:51:03AM IF IT'S FINANCIALLY EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING AND THEY WEIGH
11:51:08AM THAT EXPENSE, THE OVERALL HEALTH AND BENEFIT OF THE TREE SO
11:51:11AM IF IT'S AN EXCELLENT TREE DOING A LOT OF BENEFIT FOR THE
11:51:13AM CITY AND IT'S A MINIMAL COST, THE RAISED FLOOR, OR IS IT A
11:51:18AM HUGE COST WITH THE RAISED FLOOR AND NOT OF A VERY GOOD TREE?
11:51:23AM SO THAT'S AN INQUIRY THAT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WILL BE
11:51:26AM MAKING AS WELL.
11:51:27AM FINALLY FOR ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, BECAUSE THERE ARE TREE
11:51:30AM REMOVAL APPLICATIONS, OTHER TYPES OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES,
11:51:35AM MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITES, THERE ARE VARIOUS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES
11:51:39AM WHERE TREE REMOVAL IS REQUESTED.
11:51:43AM IN THOSE INSTANCES WE HAVE ASKED THE VRB TO ALSO LOOK AT
11:51:46AM WITHIN A QUARTER MILE IS THAT AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE YOU
11:51:50AM REGULARLY SEE?
11:51:51AM DOES EVERYONE WITHIN THE QUARTER MILE AREA ALL HAVE A POOL
11:51:53AM THE SAME SIZE SUCH THAT IT WILL BE VERY ODD FOR THIS LOT TO
11:51:57AM LEFT OUT AND BE THE ONLY PERSON THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SIZE
11:51:59AM OF A POOL?
11:52:01AM OF
11:52:03AM CONSIDER THAT ADDITIONAL CRITERIA TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR
11:52:06AM NOT IT IS REASONABLE TO REMOVE THE TREE.
11:52:13AM THAT IN A NUTSHELL IS THE NEW CODE.
11:52:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO
11:52:19AM TODAY?
11:52:19AM BECAUSE WE ARE BEING PRESENTED WITH THESE QUESTIONS.
11:52:23AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
11:52:25AM >>HARRY COHEN: SOME OF THEM ARE NOT THINGS I AM CAPABLE OF
11:52:28AM MAKING A DECISION ON THE FLY WITHOUT READING THROUGH AND
11:52:30AM THINKING ABOUT, WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GO FROM HERE TODAY?
11:52:35AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO THE NEXT STEP FOR THIS WOULD BE
11:52:37AM TRANSMITTAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:52:41AM THE POLICY DECISIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS PAGE ARE ONES THAT
11:52:45AM WE NEED A DECISION ON IN ORDER FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION
11:52:47AM TO WEIGH IN PROPERLY.
11:52:49AM MARCH 11th IS THE NEXT POSSIBLE PLANNING COMMISSION
11:52:53AM MEETING, AND THEY HAVE TO RECEIVE THE TRANSMITTAL FROM US 30
11:52:57AM DAYS IN ADVANCE.
11:52:59AM SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY PUT THIS OFF TO MAYBE NEXT WEEK OR
11:53:06AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE A
11:53:09AM FAIRLY QUICK DECISION -- IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS BACK IN FRONT
11:53:21AM OF YOU, AS SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID --
11:53:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: BEFORE WE EXPIRE.
11:53:32AM (LAUGHTER).
11:53:33AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE THAT MARCH 11
11:53:36AM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
11:53:37AM THERE'S ALSO THE APRIL 15th PENDING DATE FOR ORDINANCES.
11:53:40AM WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST AS A CLEAN MEASURE IF YOU WANT TO TRY
11:53:45AM TO GET A DECISION ON THIS, THIS ENCOMPASSES THOSE INTERIM
11:53:49AM CHANGES AND THEN A LITTLE MORE ON THEM.
11:53:52AM WE WOULD SUGGEST THE EVENING MARCH 14th AND THEN AN
11:53:55AM APRIL 4th SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, IN ORDER TO GET
11:53:58AM YOU IN BEFORE THAT EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THOSE OTHER TWO
11:54:02AM ORDINANCES.
11:54:03AM SO THAT IS OUR SUGGESTION.
11:54:05AM I DON'T HAVE THE REST OF YOUR AGENDAS IN FRONT OF YOU BUT I
11:54:10AM THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE A CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.
11:54:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL?
11:54:18AM OKAY.
11:54:19AM THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION BECAUSE I AM
11:54:22AM SURE THAT TOOK A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
11:54:24AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
11:54:28AM IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THREE
11:54:30AM MINUTES AT A TIME, IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND UP AND
11:54:32AM LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL IF IT IS YOUR INTENT TO SPEAK HERE
11:54:35AM TODAY.
11:54:35AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:54:36AM >> I RESIDE AT 4916 SAV ERRN ON DAVIS ISLAND AND I AM HERE
11:55:13AM TO TALK TO YOU ONLY ABOUT THE FIRST POLICY DECISION, WHICH
11:55:17AM IS THE REDUCTION OF THE DISTANCE, AND WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY
11:55:22AM APPROVED IN CHAPTER 13 TWO MONTHS AGO IT WAS OKAY, EVERYBODY
11:55:27AM WAS FINE, STAFF WAS OKAY, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A
11:55:32AM PROBLEM.
11:55:34AM SO WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU IN THIS VERY SIMPLE SKETCH, THIS
11:55:40AM IS A VERY TYPICAL AVERAGE LAUREL OAK TREE, GRAND LAUREL OAK
11:55:45AM TREE, OKAY, THAT MR. PETERIKA PUT TOGETHER FOR US SO I AM
11:55:53AM TAKING THIS SAME TREE AND I AM PUTTING IT ON A TRZ LOT.
11:55:59AM THIS LOT IS 50 BY 130.
11:56:03AM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC, I'M SHOWING YOU THE CROWN
11:56:08AM SPREAD OF THIS 39-INCH LAUREL OAK TREE, AND I AM SHOWING ITS
11:56:13AM PROXIMITY TO THE HOME 12 FEET AWAY, WHICH IS WHAT THE TREE
11:56:18AM ADVOCATES ARE ASKING.
11:56:20AM SO BEFORE YOU SPLIT THE BABY, COUNCILMAN, PLEASE HEAR THIS
11:56:24AM OUT.
11:56:26AM FOR YEARS, NATURAL RESOURCES HAS BEEN TELLING US, LARGE
11:56:30AM GRAND TREES REALLY NEED MORE ROOM.
11:56:34AM THEY DON'T NEED TO BE BUILT CLOSER TO.
11:56:38AM YES, WE CAN DO IT.
11:56:40AM YES, WE DON'T MIND DOING IT.
11:56:41AM AND YES, IT WILL REQUIRE A LOT OF COST TO DO IT.
11:56:45AM AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH NATURAL RESOURCES ON
11:56:47AM THAT.
11:56:48AM SO THE CONCEPT THAT EVERYBODY AGREED TO WHEN WE DEFINED THE
11:56:54AM AREA OF THE TRZ, WHICH IS THE AREA IN PINK, WAS BASED ON THE
11:57:00AM 20-FOOT RADIUS.
11:57:02AM SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE THE GOAL POSTS NOW TO 15, LET'S
11:57:06AM GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE TRZ.
11:57:08AM MAYBE WE DON'T DECREASE THE SETBACKS MORE BY 5 NEAT ON THE
11:57:12AM SIDES, 5 FEET IN THE FRONT, AND 10 FEET IN THE REAR.
11:57:16AM IF WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT UP FRONT, AND EVERYBODY AGREED,
11:57:20AM STAFF WANTS IT TO BE 15 FEET, WE WOULD HAVE A BIGGER TRZ
11:57:25AM AREA ON SMALL LOTS.
11:57:28AM SO I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 15.
11:57:29AM MAKE THE TRZ BIGGER.
11:57:32AM OR LET'S JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.
11:57:34AM LET'S GIVE AT SHOT.
11:57:36AM LET'S TRY IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN COME BACK AND
11:57:40AM TWEAK.
11:57:41AM BUT DON'T JUST SPLIT THE BABY.
11:57:43AM >>HARRY COHEN: MAY I JUST SAY, IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE.
11:57:47AM AND SO WHEN WE TALK THROUGH IT, WE HAVE TO BE FREE TO TALK
11:57:52AM FREELY UP HERE.
11:57:54AM >> THEN I APOLOGIZE.
11:57:59AM BUT LITERALLY, BOTH SIDES GOT TOGETHER WITH STAFF, AND
11:58:04AM WORKED THIS OUT.
11:58:05AM THERE'S NO REASON TO CHANGE IT.
11:58:07AM THERE IS NO REASON TO CHANGE IT.
11:58:10AM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT MANY LOTS.
11:58:13AM THE WHOLE DEFINITION REDUCED THE NUMBER OF LOTS IN THE CITY.
11:58:18AM SO EVERYBODY SAID, OKAY.
11:58:23AM THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING.
11:58:24AM [BELL SOUNDS]
11:58:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 30 MINUTES.
11:58:41AM >> SECOND.
11:58:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR?
11:58:45AM OPPOSED?
11:58:46AM OKAY.
11:58:46AM >> SANDRA PRINCE BATES FROM 6807 SOUTH ALAMENTER STREET, AND
11:58:59AM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO PLEASE REQUIRE GRAND OAKS TO
11:59:02AM BE WITHIN 12 FEET OF THE STRUCTURE BEFORE AUTOMATIC REMOVAL
11:59:07AM IS PERMITTED UNDER THE TRZ PROCESS.
11:59:10AM THIS IS OPTION B.
11:59:17AM SHALL PLEASE MAKE SAVING GRAND TREES PART OF REASONABLE
11:59:21AM RECONFIGURATION THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED BY APPLICANTS UNDER
11:59:24AM THE VRB AND GRAND TREE REMOVAL IN ALL PLAN DISTRICTS
11:59:30AM APPLICABLE TO LOTS 15,000, NOT JUST TRZ ELIGIBLE LOTS.
11:59:39AM EXCUSE ME.
11:59:40AM TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA, TO ENSURE WE
11:59:43AM ACTUALLY STREAMLINE PROCESSES TO PROTECT TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY
11:59:49AM AND TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THESE SWEEPING CHANGES.
11:59:52AM PLEASE GIVE NATURAL RESOURCES AND PARKS AND REC THE FUNDING
11:59:56AM AND THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THIS TREE CODE
12:00:00PM REWRITE WITH THESE CHANGES AND FORWARD IT TO THE PLANNING
12:00:03PM COMMISSION.
12:00:06PM AND THAT IS CRUCIAL.
12:00:07PM THE FUNDING IS CRUCIAL.
12:00:09PM THANK YOU.
12:00:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
12:00:14PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE] MARY LOU BAILEY.
12:00:25PM AND AS YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU FOR OVER TWO YEARS
12:00:28PM REPRESENTING HYDE MARK ON THIS TREE ISSUE AND I JOINED
12:00:31PM FORCES WITH THE TREE ADVOCATES AND COLLABORATED WITH THE
12:00:34PM BUILDERS AND MORE INTENSIVELY WITH THE STAFF SO WE HAVE BEEN
12:00:37PM AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND.
12:00:39PM I THINK WE ARE ABOUT READY TO GO, GUYS.
12:00:43PM I SUPPORT TRANSMITTING THIS VERSION TO THE PLANNING
12:00:45PM COMMISSION WITH ONE ADJUSTMENT.
12:00:47PM I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL POLICY ISSUES AND PEOPLE HAVE A LOT
12:00:50PM OF OPINIONS ABOUT THEM.
12:00:51PM THE ONE THAT I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT MIDDLE ISSUE,
12:00:55PM AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOR AUTOMATIC REDUCTION
12:00:58PM OF SETBACKS FOR GRAND AND ALMOST GRAND TREES SHOULD BE
12:01:01PM APPLICABLE TO ALL LOTS.
12:01:03PM I THINK IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING AND IN HASTE OF THAT THEY
12:01:07PM GOT THE PARKLAND SITUATION THAT WE LIMITED THAT TO JUST THE
12:01:11PM TRZ LOTS.
12:01:13PM ADD UPON FURTHER RESEARCH AND MR. COHEN HAS SAID, WE DON'T
12:01:16PM NEED TO DO THAT AND IN FACT ENDANGER TREES UNNECESSARILY IN
12:01:19PM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY FOR PROTECTION OF PARKLAND ESTATES
12:01:23PM ENJOYS UNDER THE STATE RULES.
12:01:25PM SO I JUST HAVE ONE THING AND THEN I AM READY TO GO.
12:01:28PM I THINK THAT THIS OVERALL DOES A LOT TO BALANCE THE
12:01:33PM DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS, THE PROPERTY RIGHTS' INTERESTS, THE
12:01:37PM BENEFITS OF THE TREES, WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND WE PUT IN
12:01:42PM A NUMBER OF HOURS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT GOING BEFORE
12:01:44PM YOU GUYS TURN OVER, GO INTO DIFFERENT JOBS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
12:01:47PM WHETHER OR NOT THE CODE HAS ACHIEVED -- REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
12:01:52PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT SEEM SIMPLER.
12:01:55PM THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT SEEM MORE COMPLICATED.
12:01:57PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TEST THIS THING OAT ROAD.
12:01:59PM SO I STRONGLY ADVISE THAT IN SIX MONTHS WE HAVE A STRUCTURED
12:02:03PM AND PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE IMPACTS OF THIS CODE REVISION.
12:02:08PM WHAT IT'S DONE TO THE CANOPY, WHAT'S IT DONE TO THE COSTS,
12:02:12PM WHAT IT'S DONE TO THE AVERAGE JOE CITIZEN WHO WANTS TO KNOW
12:02:15PM WHAT HE OR SHE CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
12:02:18PM I ALSO THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD STRONGLY ADVOCATE FOR
12:02:20PM ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND NATURAL RESOURCES.
12:02:23PM THEY NEED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE -- NEED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, AND
12:02:27PM THEY NEED TECHNOLOGY AND TOOLS.
12:02:29PM WE HAVE GIVEN THEM A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THIS NEW
12:02:32PM CODE.
12:02:33PM THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN IMPLEMENT IT WITH THE CURRENT
12:02:35PM RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE.
12:02:36PM YOU START WORKING ON THE BUDGET, YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT IN
12:02:39PM MIND.
12:02:40PM THANK YOU FOR IMPROPER TIME AND ATTENTION.
12:02:41PM I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT SUBJECT.
12:02:43PM WE ARE READY TO GO.
12:02:44PM JUST SUGGEST THAT ONE POLICY THING AND GET IT OVER TO
12:02:46PM PLANNING COMMISSION AND LET'S GET THIS DONE.
12:02:49PM THANK YOU.
12:02:49PM >> CHELSEA JOHNSON, 3313 HOME COURT.
12:03:00PM AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I'M THE FOUND EARTH'S OF
12:03:01PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING.
12:03:05PM I KNOW YOU HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION TODAY.
12:03:07PM I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON MARY LOU'S COMMENT WHICH IS THAT WE
12:03:10PM REALLY ARE VERY CLOSE, AND ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK TO GARY
12:03:14PM BROWN'S COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES.
12:03:16PM AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH TAMPA BAY BUILDERS
12:03:19PM ASSOCIATION FOR THE BETTER PART OF THIS YEAR.
12:03:21PM THE TREE GROUP, IT WAS A FLUID GROUP OF PEOPLE BUT WE HAVE
12:03:26PM HAD A REALLY GOOD TEAM, HAD MANY WONDERFUL WORKING SESSIONS.
12:03:30PM IN THE PROCESS OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE CITY STAFF
12:03:32PM TO GIVE US THEIR EXPERTISE AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE
12:03:38PM BEEN DOING THIS FOR MUCH LONGER THAN ANY OF US.
12:03:40PM SO WE DID HAVE SOME NEW INFORMATION WHICH WE PRESENTED TO
12:03:43PM THE BUILDERS TO SEE IF WE COULD NEGOTIATE ON.
12:03:46PM WE DID OFFER THE BUILDERS 15 FEET.
12:03:49PM WE ARE DISCUSSING THAT.
12:03:51PM THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO GO WITH THAT NUMBER, WHICH IS WHY
12:03:55PM WE HAVE GIVEN IT TO YOU ALL, THE POLICY DECISION.
12:03:59PM I JUST ALSO WANTED TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU TO THE CITY STAFF
12:04:03PM FOR HOURS AND HOURS INTO GIVING GREAT PRESENTATIONS TO THE
12:04:06PM PUBLIC.
12:04:06PM I ATTENDED BOTH PUBLIC SESSIONS ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY OF
12:04:10PM LAST WEEK.
12:04:10PM THEY WERE WELL ATTENDED.
12:04:12PM THEY WERE -- KRISTIN DID A FANTASTIC JOB SHARING ABOUT THE
12:04:16PM TREE REMOVAL ZONE WHICH IS A HISTORIC COMPROMISE BETWEEN
12:04:19PM TREE ADVOCATES AND THE BUILDING COMMUNITY AT TAMPA GOES
12:04:23PM THROUGH ITS GROWTH SPURT.
12:04:26PM SO I WANT TO GIVE A GREAT THANK YOU TO HER AS WELL AS KATHY
12:04:29PM BECK AND HER EXPERTISE AND THE BUILDING COMMUNITY.
12:04:32PM WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS.
12:04:33PM WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL LOOK OVER WHAT THIS VERY HELPFUL TABLE
12:04:37PM THAT KRISTIN HAS PUT TOGETHER, AND CAN MAKE SOME INFORMED
12:04:44PM DECISIONS.
12:04:45PM LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE GOING
12:04:48PM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
12:04:51PM IT'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.
12:04:52PM THE TREE ADVOCATES ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CODE OVERALL BUT
12:04:55PM THERE'S SOME WONDERFUL ADDITIONS TO PUT TREES ON PRIVATE
12:04:58PM PROPERTY INSTEAD OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH WE'LL PRESENT TO
12:05:01PM LIFTING UP THE SIDEWALKS AND DRIVEWAYS WHICH YOU ALL HAVE NO
12:05:05PM DOUBT BEEN HEARING ABOUT AS WELL AS THE DAMAGE BY WATER.
12:05:11PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND COOPERATION.
12:05:13PM LASTLY, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY FOR NATURAL
12:05:16PM RESOURCES SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH MAKING TAMPA A TOP
12:05:22PM TREE CITY.
12:05:25PM THANK YOU.
12:05:25PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:05:27PM >> I'M KRISA METCALF, 117 WEST NORTH STREET IN TAMPA AND I'M
12:05:36PM HERE DAB SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
12:05:39PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SO I AM SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF
12:05:42PM TODAY.
12:05:44PM AND I AM SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE NEW TREE CODE IN GENERAL.
12:05:49PM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE SUPPORT THE PROPOSED
12:05:53PM CHANGES BY TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING AND THE TREE
12:05:57PM ADVOCATES.
12:05:59PM WE ALSO PROPOSE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STILL BE
12:06:02PM NOTIFIED OF ALL GRAND AND SPECIMEN TREE REMOVALS.
12:06:08PM SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE STILL GETTING THE
12:06:10PM NOTIFICATIONS FROM BEFORE.
12:06:15PM FINALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN IDEA.
12:06:18PM IS THE FOR THE FUTURE.
12:06:20PM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IF SOME OF YOU HAPPEN TO NOT
12:06:24PM EXPIRE.
12:06:25PM WE WOULD LIKE -- WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN IDEA OF A PRICE
12:06:30PM LIST -- PRICELESS TREE, ONE THAT IS TOO VALUABLE TO EVER BE
12:06:36PM CUT DOWN.
12:06:38PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS DESERVE FAIR MARKET
12:06:41PM VALUE FOR THEIR LOTS, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS TO
12:06:45PM PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO SELL A LOT IF THEY ARE
12:06:48PM GOING INTO A NURSING HOLE AND NEED TO PAY INFORM THAT,
12:06:51PM RIGHT?
12:06:52PM MAKES SENSE.
12:06:53PM SO WE PROPOSE OR SUGGEST SOME SORT OF FUNDING MECHANISM TO
12:06:57PM REIMBURSE THEM.
12:06:58PM PERHAPS USING THE LANDSCAPE AREA TRUST FUND WHICH IS SECTION
12:07:02PM 16-46101 OF THE CODE.
12:07:06PM AND TURNING THESE LOTS INTO POCKET PARKS.
12:07:09PM AND POCKET PARKS YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
12:07:12PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER GONE OUT TO CEDAR KEY BUT THEY
12:07:15PM HAVE WONDERFUL LITTLE POCKET PARKS ALL OVER THE CITY, ON THE
12:07:21PM BAY, AND THEY ARE WONDERFUL PLACES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME
12:07:24PM AND SIT AND RELAX AND HAVE A CUP OF TEA.
12:07:28PM SO WE JUST BRING THIS UP FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, AND WE THANK
12:07:31PM YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
12:07:32PM >> YVONNE PERELLI, 2504 WEST SIMMS BOULEVARD, AND I AM A
12:07:47PM PARKLAND ESTATES RESIDENT, ALSO THE TREASURER OF PARKLAND
12:07:50PM ESTATES CLUB AND COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO REPRESENT OUR
12:07:54PM INTERESTS.
12:07:55PM FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY KRISTIN MORA HAS DONE AN
12:08:00PM OUTSTANDING JOB FOR THE CITY.
12:08:02PM SECONDLY, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE FUND NATURAL RESOURCES
12:08:07PM TO TAKE CARE OF THE JOBS THAT WE ARE HOPING FOR IN THE NEW
12:08:14PM ORDINANCES.
12:08:15PM I ASK THAT THE REASONABLE RECONFIGURATION FOR THE VARIANCE
12:08:19PM REVIEW BOARD APPLY TO ALL LOT SIZES.
12:08:23PM AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO PARKLAND ESTATES, WE HAVE OUR OVERLAY
12:08:27PM DISTRICT WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:08:31PM I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE PARKLAND
12:08:35PM ESTATES RESIDENTS PUT A LOT OF VALUE IN THEIR SETBACKS, AND
12:08:45PM WE DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR SETBACKS ADJUSTED SO MUCH.
12:08:52PM WE PUT A LOT OF VALUE IN THAT.
12:08:54PM WE ALSO PUT A LOT OF VALUE IN TREES.
12:08:57PM AND IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS FOR OUTSIDE
12:09:03PM BUILDINGS OR EXTRA LARGE HOMES IN WHICH THE COSTS OF THE
12:09:09PM BUILDING OR THE STRUCTURE VERSUS THE VALUE OF THE TREE, THAT
12:09:13PM CONCERNS ME.
12:09:14PM I THINK THAT BUILDERS AND HOMEOWNERS SHOULD BE PLACING
12:09:23PM GREATER COSTS AT BUILDING THEIR STRUCTURE AND SAVING THE
12:09:26PM TREE.
12:09:27PM FOR INSTANCE, ON MY LOT, JOHNNY BRACE STAPLE BUILT AN
12:09:37PM ADDITION TO OUR HOME WHICH I AM GRATEFUL FOR.
12:09:39PM THEY ARE WONDERFUL CONTRACTORS.
12:09:40PM BUT WE PUT A SPECIFIC SLAB TO SAVE THE ROOT STRUCTURE OF THE
12:09:46PM GRAND TREE NEAR THE HOME, AND WE PAID FOR IT AS HOMEOWNERS.
12:09:50PM AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO PROTECT THE TREES IN
12:09:54PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:09:56PM FOR FUTURE BUILDINGS.
12:09:57PM THANK YOU.
12:09:57PM >> RICKY PETERIKA, AS A TREE PROFESSIONAL AND DESIGNER, I
12:10:12PM JUST WANT TO OFFER MY THOUGHTS QUICKLY TO WHAT I THINK ARE
12:10:15PM THE CHOICES BEFORE YOU.
12:10:16PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER SOMEWHERE 12 OR 15 ON THE
12:10:22PM TRZ REMOVAL.
12:10:24PM I DON'T FEEL THAT THE ADJUSTMENTS, THE AUTOMATIC SETBACK
12:10:28PM ADJUSTMENTS SHOULD BE REQUIRED IN REVIEW SO I WOULD LIKE YOU
12:10:31PM TO CONSIDER THESE TWO OPTIONS.
12:10:33PM AND I FEEL THAT MINOR PRUNING OF A GRAND TREE UNDER 4 INCHES
12:10:37PM SHOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT A PERMIT.
12:10:41PM THANK YOU.
12:10:41PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
12:10:54PM I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IS WE
12:10:56PM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
12:10:59PM AND I HAVE A STACK OF PAPERS, PROBABLY THAT HIGH, AS WELL AS
12:11:03PM YOU, WITH PROPOSALS AND AMENDMENTS AND REVISIONS, AND WE ARE
12:11:10PM GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE JUST NEED TO MOVE THIS
12:11:12PM FORWARD.
12:11:14PM WE SAT DOWN AND WE AGREED ON VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THIS
12:11:19PM ORDINANCE THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE 20-FOOT
12:11:23PM RADIUS, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT REMAIN.
12:11:28PM BUT THIS IS LIKE A WATER BALLOON.
12:11:32PM THERE ARE SO MANY ELEMENTS THAT ARE INTERDEPENDENT ON OTHER
12:11:37PM ELEMENTS THAT WHEN YOU START MAKING CHANGES THEY AFFECT
12:11:39PM OTHER THINGS WITHIN THE CODE.
12:11:41PM SO I SUGGEST TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHICH ELEMENTS YOU
12:11:46PM MOVE.
12:11:48PM IF YOU SQUEEZE A WATER BALLOON, IT GETS BIGGER ON ONE SIDE.
12:11:52PM BUT THE ONE YOU ARE SQUEEZING GETS SMALLER.
12:11:57PM SO IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS.
12:11:58PM OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND FOR AN
12:12:02PM INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS AN APPLICATION.
12:12:07PM WE DIDN'T ACHIEVE THAT.
12:12:10PM IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS.
12:12:11PM WE HAVE ADDED ARBORISTS.
12:12:13PM WE HAVE ADDED -- REQUIRED SEAT PERHAPS AND A VARIETY OF
12:12:17PM THINGS THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT.
12:12:19PM BUT I THINK IN AN IMPERFECT WORLD, WE HAVE AN IMPERFECT
12:12:23PM ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
12:12:26PM AND IN THAT RESPECT, WE ASK THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH IT,
12:12:31PM APPLYING THE VARIOUS SETBACK REDUCTIONS THAT YOU CAN USE
12:12:36PM SHOULD APPLY TO ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
12:12:40PM I THINK THAT'S A VERY WISE DECISION.
12:12:43PM BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTIES REGARDLESS OF THEIR SIZE THAT
12:12:47PM THIS COULD AFFECT.
12:12:48PM SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU MOVE IT FORWARD AND
12:12:52PM CONSIDER THE 20-FOOT RADIUS.
12:12:55PM THANK YOU.
12:12:55PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT.
12:12:58PM >> JERRY FRANKHOUSER, T.H.A.N. PRESIDENT.
12:13:06PM WE WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, THE TREE COMMITTEE AND THE
12:13:11PM ADVOCATES ON THEIR WORK ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION
12:13:15PM WE HAVE GOTTEN.
12:13:16PM WE WOULD LIKE TO STAND BEHIND OPTION NUMBER B.
12:13:22PM WE COULD CHANGE TO THE 15 FEET.
12:13:26PM WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEED
12:13:30PM TO BE NOTICED.
12:13:31PM AND I AM NOT SURE THAT GOT PUT BACK IN THERE.
12:13:33PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS
12:13:39PM NOTICED AND THE PEOPLE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT TO BE 500
12:13:43PM FEET INSTEAD OF 250 FEET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE
12:13:47PM NOT GOING TO GET DONE NOW.
12:13:49PM BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOMETIME DOWN THE WAY, SOME OTHER
12:13:53PM COUNCIL MIGHT MAKE IT, BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE BIG TREE,
12:13:57PM GRAND OAK, IS HOUSES WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE TREE ITSELF.
12:14:03PM SO WE SHOULD LET EVERYBODY ELSE KNOW ABOUT IT, TOO.
12:14:08PM THANK YOU.
12:14:08PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, JOSEPH CITRO, 4015 BAYSHORE
12:14:17PM BOULEVARD.
12:14:19PM FIRST A DISCLAIMER.
12:14:20PM THE VIEWPOINTS AND OPINIONS EXPRESSED BY JOSEPH CITRO ARE
12:14:23PM THOSE OF HIS OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT ANY BOARD,
12:14:26PM COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION THAT HE MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH.
12:14:28PM FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK --
12:14:33PM >>FRANK REDDICK: FIRST TIME I HEARD THIS.
12:14:35PM (LAUGHTER).
12:14:36PM >> YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT.
12:14:40PM OKAY.
12:14:41PM I FIRST WOULD LIKE TO THANK MS. MORA, MRS. BECK, MRS.
12:14:45PM LITTLE, ALL OF CITY STAFF WHO HAS WORKED TOGETHER WITH MRS.
12:14:49PM JOHNSON, MS. DUNCAN AND THE TBBA ON THIS.
12:14:54PM THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO THIS HAS PROVIDED US NEW PROPOSED
12:14:57PM TREE ORDINANCE.
12:14:58PM I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT THIS WAY.
12:15:00PM THIS IS THE MOST SCIENTIFIC ORDINANCE AND THE MOST LEGAL
12:15:06PM BINDING ORDINANCE WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THEY HAVE
12:15:09PM DONE A GOOD JOB DOING THIS.
12:15:11PM AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE THIS WILL SAVE
12:15:14PM MORE TREES THAN WHAT ORDINANCE WE HAVE NOW.
12:15:17PM I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE THE CONSIDERATION TO THIS NEW
12:15:21PM ORDINANCE THAT IT DESERVES.
12:15:22PM I SUPPORT IT.
12:15:23PM AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN THAT SUPPORT IT ALSO.
12:15:26PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:15:28PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MRS. CAPIN.
12:15:34PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO KNOW WHY, WHEN WE DECIDED TO
12:15:38PM BRING THIS FORWARD, 20 FEET WAS OKAY.
12:15:42PM WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
12:15:45PM WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
12:15:47PM WAS IT NATURAL RESOURCES? APPARENTLY THAT WAS SOMETHING
12:15:49PM THAT BOTH AGREED ON.
12:15:53PM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT CHANGED BETWEEN THAT AND NOW.
12:15:56PM >>KRISTIN MORA: COUNCILWOMAN, YOU ARE CORRECT. IN THE
12:16:00PM INTERIM CODE, IT WAS 20 FEET BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
12:16:02PM PROTECTED -- IT'S NOT EXACTLY 20 FEET.
12:16:06PM IT'S PROTECTED ROOT ZONE WHICH IN GENERAL IS ABOUT 20 FEET.
12:16:09PM FOR GRAND TREES.
12:16:10PM SO THE 20 FEET IS IN THE INTERIM CODE, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS
12:16:14PM AGREED ON BEFORE.
12:16:16PM THERE WAS OVER THE COURSE OF THE WORKING MEETINGS SOME
12:16:19PM DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS A SMALLER AREA THAT WOULD
12:16:23PM ALLOW FEWER TREES TO BE REMOVED, IN THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE,
12:16:27PM IN THE CASE OF A SMALL HOUSE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT NEED TO
12:16:30PM REMOVE THE TREE.
12:16:31PM IT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE COURSE OF THE
12:16:34PM WORKING GROUP THAT CAME UP AS A POTENTIAL POLICY DECISION.
12:16:37PM SO IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY IN THAT CONTEXT.
12:16:39PM BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.
12:16:40PM 20 FEET IS THE PROTECTED ROOT ZONE IS WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT
12:16:45PM INTERIM ORDINANCES.
12:16:46PM YES, MA'AM.
12:16:46PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
12:16:47PM >>HARRY COHEN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
12:16:50PM ON NUMBER 3, I JUST WANT TO ASK MRS. BECK AS WE ARE THINKING
12:16:53PM ABOUT THIS OVER THE WEEKEND, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD.
12:16:57PM ON THE GRAND TREE LIMBS OF LESS THAN 4 INCHES, HOW DANGEROUS
12:17:02PM IS IT TO A GRAND TREE TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF SMALL LIMBS?
12:17:09PM >> IT'S NOT VERY DANGEROUS TO HAVE SMALL LIMBS PRUNED ON A
12:17:13PM GRAND TREE, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THE 4 INCHES
12:17:16PM FOR US.
12:17:17PM WE ARE LOOKING AT LARGE TREES, HOW DO YOU TELL WHAT'S A
12:17:21PM 4-INCH LIMB AND WHAT'S NOT A 4-INCH LIMB?
12:17:24PM WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO MONITOR PRUNING OF GRAND AND
12:17:28PM SPECIMEN TREES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PRUNED TO THE
12:17:32PM AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARDS INSTITUTE FOR PRUNING.
12:17:36PM THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
12:17:38PM THE 4 INCHES IS CURRENTLY ONLY IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
12:17:44PM WHERE WE MANAGE THE TREES.
12:17:45PM BUT WE CURRENTLY REQUIRE PERMITS FOR PRUNING A GRAND TREE
12:17:50PM REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE LIMB.
12:17:53PM TO PROTECT -- TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE TO ANSI STANDARDS.
12:17:57PM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
12:18:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. BECK, MOST OF THEM THAT PRUNE, GO
12:18:13PM OUT AND PRUNE TREES OR SOMEBODY KALES CALLS THEM AND THEY
12:18:16PM SEE SOMEBODY, HOW DO YOU FIND THEM? WE SEE SOMEBODY PRUNING
12:18:20PM TREES.
12:18:21PM DO YOU DO THAT JOB?
12:18:22PM OH, YEAH, CERTIFIED.
12:18:23PM THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE CERTIFIED OR NOT.
12:18:25PM AND A LOT OF THEM ARE HISPANIC BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING
12:18:28PM PRUNING TREES.
12:18:28PM SO YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF PLAN TO HOW YOU ARE GOING TO REACH
12:18:32PM OUT TO THESE PEOPLE AND -- FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO FIND
12:18:35PM THEM AND PUT THEM IN TRAINING.
12:18:37PM THEN YOU HAVE TO CERTIFY.
12:18:38PM SO THE PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE HOW LONG?
12:18:41PM >> THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WE ARE DOING TO ADDRESS EXACTLY
12:18:45PM THAT, COUNCILMAN.
12:18:45PM SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON REGARDLESS OF
12:18:49PM WHETHER OR NOT THIS NEW TREE CODE WE ARE WORKING ON NOW,
12:18:54PM MORE TO THE POINT, WE ARE DOING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT
12:18:57PM WILL ALLOW FOR CERTIFICATION OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN
12:19:00PM TRAINED BY THE CITY AND HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE FACT THAT THEY
12:19:03PM UNDERSTAND THE ANSI PRUNING STANDARDS, THEY UNDERSTAND HOW
12:19:06PM TO CORRECTLY PRUNE TREES, SO THE CITY WILL THEN HAVE A
12:19:09PM CERTIFICATION PROCESS, AND PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO QUICKLY
12:19:13PM ASCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT THIS PERSON IS ACTUALLY -- THE CITY
12:19:16PM HAS BLESSED THIS PERSON AND SAID, YES, THIS PERSON KNOWS HOW
12:19:18PM TO DO IT.
12:19:19PM SO THAT'S A PROGRAM WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN PLACE RIGHT
12:19:21PM AWAY.
12:19:22PM ONE OF THE THINGS PLUGGED INTO THE NEW PROPOSED CODE IS TO
12:19:26PM HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT WHERE YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY DOING A
12:19:29PM PRUNING, SO IF I COME IN AND I SAY BOB IS GOING TO TRIM THE
12:19:34PM TREE FOR ME, DOES BOB KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING?
12:19:36PM HE HAS AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING HE'S GOING TO PRUNE ACCORDING TO
12:19:40PM ANSI STANDARDS.
12:19:41PM CURRENTLY IF SOMETHING IS PRUNED IMPROPERLY IT FALLS ON THE
12:19:44PM PROPERTY OWNER.
12:19:45PM BUT WHERE IT'S A THIRD PARTY THAT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO THEM
12:19:47PM SO WE ARE HOPING THIS AFFIDAVIT WILL HELP THE CITY TAKE
12:19:50PM ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THOSE THAT DOING IMPROPER PRUNING, NOT
12:19:53PM NECESSARILY THE LITTLE OLD LADY WHO HAD HER TREE PRUNED
12:19:57PM IMPROPERLY.
12:19:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE LITTLE OLD LADY AND
12:20:02PM KNOW IT NOT THE LITTLE OLD MAN?
12:20:05PM >> WITH KATHY BECK: ONE OF OUR LARGEST COMPLAINTS IS
12:20:10PM IMPROPER PRUNING WHICH LEAVES THEM DANGEROUS AND SUBJECT TO
12:20:13PM ULTIMATE REMOVAL.
12:20:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND WHAT DOES THE PERMIT COST?
12:20:17PM AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS?
12:20:19PM >> CURRENTLY THE PRUNING PERMIT IS $120 WHICH COVERS THE
12:20:23PM COST OF OVERHEAD BASICALLY.
12:20:27PM WE HAVE DONE THAT FEE ANALYSIS.
12:20:29PM SO IT'S $120 YOU APPLY.
12:20:32PM AND NOW WE ARE PROPOSING THAT YOU SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT.
12:20:35PM SO IT HAPPENS RIGHT AWAY.
12:20:38PM APPROVAL WILL HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.
12:20:40PM >>HARRY COHEN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION TO
12:20:44PM COUNCIL, WHAT EVERYONE WANTS TO DO, BUT MY THINKING IS WE
12:20:47PM COULD BRING THIS BACK NEXT WEEK AND JUST VOTE ON NUMBER 1, 2
12:20:51PM OR 3, AND WHATEVER COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS AND OFF IT GOES.
12:20:54PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BACK TO THAT.
12:20:58PM I'M LOOKING AT THIS, AND I SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED
12:21:01PM ON TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD.
12:21:04PM I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I SAY, WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON THIS, AND
12:21:08PM LOOK AT IT IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR, SEE HOW IT'S WORKING?
12:21:14PM I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WAS AGREED ON.
12:21:16PM THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY BROUGHT FORWARD.
12:21:18PM AND I AM THINKING NOW -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN IN RETAIL MY
12:21:21PM WHOLE LIFE AND ONCE YOU MAKE A DEAL AND EVERYBODY WAS IN,
12:21:25PM INCLUDING NATURAL RESOURCES, EVERYBODY WAS IN ON THIS.
12:21:28PM AND I AM LOOKING AT IT AND I SAID, WHY DON'T WE -- I MEAN,
12:21:32PM IT COULD BE NEXT WEEK, BUT I FELT THAT -- IT LOOK AT IT
12:21:39PM LATER AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
12:21:40PM >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT.
12:21:42PM THE REASON I AM ASKING FOR THE WEEK IS BECAUSE I WANT TO
12:21:45PM FIGURE OUT ON 1, 2 AND APPROXIMATE 3.
12:21:50PM BUT THEN MOVE IT.
12:21:51PM I AGREE WITH YOU.
12:21:52PM >>CHAIRMAN REDDICK: BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME EACH TIME IT'S
12:21:57PM COME BACK BEFORE US IT GETS DELAYED AGAIN BECAUSE WE KEEP
12:22:01PM GETTING CHANGES.
12:22:02PM NOW, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION IF WE ARE GOING FORWARD, OR
12:22:07PM PUT THIS OFF TO THE NEXT COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS MAKES NO
12:22:12PM SENSE AT ALL.
12:22:18PM WE HAVE PLANNING STAFF, BRING THIS BACK TO US.
12:22:20PM WE ALL TALK ABOUT THE 31st.
12:22:22PM WE NEED TO HAVE THIS BACK THE 31st.
12:22:25PM IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE TRANSMITTED AND ALL THIS STUFF.
12:22:28PM NOW WE HEAR WE WANT ANOTHER WEEK.
12:22:31PM BECAUSE WHAT WE GOT TODAY.
12:22:38PM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I AM THROUGH IT WITH AFTER ANOTHER WEEK.
12:22:41PM YOU WON'T GET MY SUPPORT.
12:22:42PM I'LL WALK OUT.
12:22:44PM (LAUGHTER).
12:22:47PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
12:22:48PM AND MAYBE MR. COHEN WILL AGREE WITH IT AND MAYBE NOT.
12:22:51PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:22:52PM I THINK YOU DID THE RIGHT THING IN TRYING TO SPLIT THE BABY
12:22:55PM BUT YOU DID IT IN THE WRONG WAY.
12:22:57PM AND WAY MEAN BY THAT IS THAT I THINK WE HAD OUR OPTIONS IN
12:23:00PM FRONT OF US AND LET'S PICK THE OPTIONS THAT WE THINK WE
12:23:02PM SHOULD GO FORWARD TO.
12:23:04PM BASED ON WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, BASED ON WHAT I
12:23:07PM HAVE HEARD FROM ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE HERE, OUR STAFF,
12:23:11PM THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THAT UNDER OPTION NUMBER 1, OPTION
12:23:16PM A, I THINK TO KEEP NO N THAT IN PLACE, BECAUSE THE
12:23:20PM SPLITTING, IT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE TRZ LINE.
12:23:25PM I THINK ON POLICY DECISION NUMBER 2, WE GO WITH OPTION B,
12:23:31PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
12:23:34PM AND I THINK ON THE PRUNING WORKS, I THINK WE ALSO GO WITH
12:23:37PM OPTION B.
12:23:38PM THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.
12:23:39PM IF WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THAT OR NOT.
12:23:41PM I KNOW THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WE ARE
12:23:44PM GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T LIKE WHAT WE JUST DID.
12:23:46PM SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TO US WERE
12:23:49PM GO FORWARD WITH IT BASED ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
12:23:53PM WE HAVE, HAVE A SIX-MONTH LOW BACK WHICH I THINK IS
12:23:56PM IMPORTANT.
12:23:56PM WE CAN THEN, AFTER WE SEND THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
12:23:59PM AND IT COMES BACK TO US, WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK FOR A REPORT
12:24:02PM SIX MONTHS LATER SO THAT THE NEW COUNCIL WILL HAVE IT
12:24:06PM PREPARED AND READY TO GO SO THAT THEY GET INTO A LOOP ON
12:24:09PM THIS, BECAUSE I THINK OUR LOOP IS ALREADY LOOPED OUT, OKAY?
12:24:13PM I THINK WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR LOOP, SO TO SPEAK.
12:24:15PM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU WANT TO APPROXIMATE PUT THAT IN THE
12:24:18PM FORM OF A MOTION?
12:24:21PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WILL GLADLY PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A
12:24:23PM MOTION.
12:24:23PM INSTEAD OF ME PUTTING THE MOTION, SHE WANTS TO HAVE
12:24:25PM DISCUSSION SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.
12:24:28PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DON'T WANT TO MOVE -- I AM GOING TO VOTE
12:24:33PM NO BECAUSE I THINK TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK -- OKAY, HERE IS
12:24:37PM THE THING. IF WE MOVE IT TO 15 FEET, I THINK WE NEED --
12:24:42PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT WASN'T MY SUGGESTION.
12:24:46PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE BUILDING --
12:24:49PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MY SUGGESTION WAS NOT 15 FEET.
12:24:51PM IT'S NOT 15 FEET.
12:24:52PM I AM NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES.
12:24:54PM I AM LOOKING AT OPTIONS, THAT'S ALL.
12:24:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY FEEL IS THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:24:59PM I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A COMPROMISE.
12:25:02PM AND WHEN I READ THIS NOW THERE'S A COMPROMISE, BUT WITH
12:25:05PM DIFFERENCES.
12:25:05PM SO THE COMPROMISE IS STILL THERE BUT IT'S NOT UNITED
12:25:08PM ANYMORE.
12:25:09PM THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
12:25:10PM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE WEEK WAS BROUGHT UP SO I CAN READ
12:25:14PM AND UNDERSTAND IN MY OWN MIND AND MAKE UP WHICH IS THE BEST
12:25:17PM WAY TO GO AND SAY WITHIN A YEAR SUNSETS FOR THE NEW COUNCIL
12:25:23PM IF THEY WANT TO.
12:25:23PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF IDEA IS LET'S LOOK AT
12:25:26PM THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US AND YOU SELECT THE
12:25:29PM OPTIONS AS OPPOSED TO CHANGING A PART OF IT BECAUSE
12:25:33PM OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE GOING TO BE DISAGREEMENTS AND SOMETIMES
12:25:36PM CAN'T GET COMPLETELY WHERE THEY ARE AT.
12:25:39PM JUST SELECT THE OPTION.
12:25:40PM THAT'S WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING.
12:25:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
12:25:43PM I ALSO UNDERSTAND BOTH PARTIES LEAVE UNHAPPY, WE DID ONE
12:25:47PM HELL OF A JOB.
12:25:48PM (LAUGHTER).
12:25:50PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:25:51PM SO WE HAVE TWO THINGS ON THE TABLE.
12:25:52PM >>HARRY COHEN: EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE IN AGREEMENT THAT --
12:26:01PM LET'S MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO REPORT AT 10:30 NEXT WEEK
12:26:06PM AND POLICY 1, 2 OR 3.
12:26:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:26:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THAT A TIME CERTAIN?
12:26:15PM >>HARRY COHEN: 10:30 A.M.
12:26:16PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
12:26:21PM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:26:22PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
12:26:23PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:26:25PM OPPOSED?
12:26:26PM ALL RIGHT.
12:26:26PM THANK YOU.
12:26:28PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
12:26:33PM MR. SUAREZ.
12:26:33PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NOTHING, SIR.
12:26:36PM I JUST HOPE THAT THE RAMS BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THE PATRIOTS.
12:26:41PM (LAUGHTER)
12:26:42PM LISTEN, I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER
12:26:45PM UNDERDOG. I DON'T LIKE TO SEE WHEN THE FAVORITE WINS.
12:26:49PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I AGREE WITH YOU.
12:26:51PM >>HARRY COHEN: I CAN'T ADD TO THAT SO I WILL GO ON.
12:26:54PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOTHING.
12:26:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW, TODAY WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE
12:27:01PM REVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING UNDERGROUND AND IT IS THE MOST
12:27:07PM IMPORTANT THING TO THIS CITY AND I THINK ALTHOUGH THEY
12:27:10PM DIDN'T OFFER ANYTHING, I THINK BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT
12:27:13PM COUNCIL MEETING, TO SEE WHAT WE WANT THERE AND HOW WE ARE
12:27:17PM GOING TO FIX IT AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
12:27:19PM AGAIN, WE HAD THREE SCENARIOS HERE AND THEY GAVE US THREE
12:27:25PM SCENARIOS.
12:27:25PM I THINK IN TWO WEEKS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP WITH THE
12:27:28PM PERMISSION OF THE CHAIR SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND SEE WHAT WE
12:27:30PM ARE GOING TO DO.
12:27:32PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA. SECOND BY MR.
12:27:34PM MANISCALCO.
12:27:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:36PM OPPOSED?
12:27:36PM ALL RIGHT.
12:27:37PM MR. VIERA?
12:27:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: NONE SIR.
12:27:39PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE STAND ADJOURNED TILL 5:01.
12:27:42PM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:27:44PM THANK YOU.
12:27:44PM MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:27:45PM SECOND BY --
12:27:47PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
12:27:50PM (MEETING ADJOURNED)
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