TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2019
9:00 A.M. SESSION
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7:04:37AM
8:59:22AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE JIM REESE, A
9:05:20AM GRADUATE AND FORMER QUARTERBACK OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
9:05:22AM MINNESOTA, SERVED AS THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO TAMPA CITY
9:05:25AM COUNCIL MEMBERS JOHN DINGFELDER AND YOURS TRULY FOR ELEVEN
9:05:29AM YEARS, FORMERLY THE MAYOR OF HIS HOMETOWN, PATCHOGUE, NEW
9:05:38AM YORK.
9:05:39AM JIM HAS ALSO SERVED AS A COMMISSIONER OF GENERAL SERVICES
9:05:42AM FOR SUFFOLKS COUNTY, NEW YORK AND IS THE DIRECTOR FACILITIES
9:05:46AM MANAGER FOR PASCO COUNTY, AND IS THE BEST AIDE EVER.
9:05:51AM THANK YOU, JIM, FOR BEING HERE.
9:05:53AM PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:05:56AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:05:59AM IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT THE MORAL TEST OF A GOVERNMENT IS HOW
9:06:02AM THAT GOVERNMENT TREATS THOSE IN THE DAWN OF LIFE, OF
9:06:05AM CHILDREN, THOSE IN THE TWILIGHT OF LIFE, ELDERLY, AND THOSE
9:06:09AM WHO ARE IN THE SHADOWS OF LIFE, THE SICK, THE NEEDY AND THE
9:06:13AM DISABLED.
9:06:13AM WITH THAT IN MIND LET US PRAY.
9:06:15AM DEAR LORD, BE PRESENT WITH US TODAY.
9:06:18AM JOIN US AS WE GATHER IN A WIDER SEARCH FOR TRUTH AND
9:06:22AM PURPOSE.
9:06:23AM IN THIS QUEST, MAY WE GREET ONE ANOTHER WITH OPEN HEARTS AND
9:06:27AM MINDS.
9:06:27AM MAY WE INSPIRE EACH OTHER TO CONSIDER NEW QUESTIONS AND SEEK
9:06:32AM DEEPER MEANING, AND MAY WE CULTIVATE WISDOM AND COMPASSION
9:06:36AM ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:06:39AM LET ALL WHO ENTER THIS CHAMBER TODAY SEE A WELCOME FACE,
9:06:42AM HEAR A KIND WORD, AND FIND COMFORT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:06:46AM AND MAY ALL THAT IS SAID AND DONE HERE TODAY BE IN SERVICE
9:06:49AM TO LOVE, FELLOWSHIP, AND JUSTICE.
9:06:52AM AMEN.
9:06:53AM [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
9:07:14AM >> ROLL CALL.
9:07:14AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:07:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:07:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:17AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:07:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:07:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:07:23AM GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA?
9:07:25AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:07:26AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:07:28AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:07:29AM ALL OPPOSED?
9:07:30AM ALL RIGHT.
9:07:32AM LET ME ADVISE YOU ON SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN THE AGENDA TODAY.
9:07:37AM WE ARE GOING TO STOP AT 11:30 SO THAT THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO
9:07:44AM THE LUNCHEON CAN GET OUT THERE IN TIME.
9:07:50AM AFTER WE DO THE REPORTS WE ARE GOING TO GO TO TREE ORDINANCE
9:07:58AM SO EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THAT.
9:08:00AM AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE RECONVENE AT 2:00 IF THAT'S FINE
9:08:11AM WITH EVERYBODY.
9:08:11AM >>HARRY COHEN: BECAUSE SOME OF US CAN'T COME BACK THIS
9:08:14AM AFTERNOON.
9:08:15AM WE WERE THINKING WE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH
9:08:17AM THE AGENDA THIS MORNING.
9:08:18AM HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE THE CASE.
9:08:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:21AM KEEPING THAT IN MIND -- (LAUGHTER)
9:08:26AM ALL RIGHT.
9:08:27AM GO TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:08:31AM CELESTE.
9:08:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:08:41AM AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BEFORE YOU.
9:08:44AM MY NAME IS CELESTE GIBBONS PEOPLES, THE PRESIDENT OF CITY OF
9:08:48AM TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
9:08:49AM AND ALONG WITH THE COMMITTEE WE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY
9:08:53AM INVITE YOU TO OUR UPCOMING 31st ANNUAL BLACK HISTORY
9:08:56AM CELEBRATION WHICH IS HELD ON FEBRUARY 12th AT 11 A.M. AT
9:09:01AM TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER BALLROOM C AND B.
9:09:04AM OUR THEME IS INGENUITY STEMS FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
9:09:09AM AS YOU KNOW, SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, MATHEMATICS.
9:09:13AM SO WE ALSO ARE HAVING OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER IS FORMER CITY
9:09:18AM ARCHITECT MR. JAMES JACKSON.
9:09:20AM HE WILL BE OUR KEYNOTE, FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CITY
9:09:26AM ARCHITECT SO HE WILL BE OUR KEYNOTE AND WE WILL HAVE
9:09:29AM ENTERTAINMENT BY A LOCAL JAZZ ARTIST BY THE NAME OF TOM
9:09:33AM BAPTIST.
9:09:33AM SO IT SHOULD BE GOOD AND ENTERTAINING, FREE AND OPEN TO THE
9:09:36AM PUBLIC.
9:09:37AM WE INVITE YOU TO COMB AND JOIN WITH OUR VENDORS, AUTHORS,
9:09:42AM RETAIL SELLERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS SOME OF OUR
9:09:46AM SPONSORS WILL HAVE A TABLE IN BALLROOM D.
9:09:49AM IT'S FREE.
9:09:50AM OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
9:09:51AM WE HAVE A LITTLE REFRESHMENTS.
9:09:53AM AND WE HOPE FOR YOU ALL TO COME OUT AND ENJOY.
9:09:57AM AND I NOW WANT TO HAVE MY COMMITTEE, SOME OF OUR COMMITTEE
9:10:01AM MEMBERS COME UP AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS WELL.
9:10:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:10:08AM MY NAME IS MONITA RICHARDSON, CITY OF TAMPA, TECHNOLOGY AND
9:10:14AM INNOVATION AND THE TECH SUPERVISOR AND THE CHAIRPERSON FOR
9:10:19AM THE COMMITTEE.
9:10:19AM >> I'M BRIDGET GORDON, WITH T AND I, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF
9:10:26AM THE BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
9:10:27AM >> MY NAME IS WANDA THOMPSON, IN THE PLANNING AND
9:10:32AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:10:32AM I WORK IN THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION.
9:10:34AM I'M ASSISTANT TREASURER FOR THE COMMITTEE.
9:10:36AM >> I'M DEBBY MERCER, AND I WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL, CITY
9:10:43AM CLERK'S OFFICE, AND I'M THE TREASURER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:10:47AM BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
9:10:48AM >> ANTHONY McGEE, I WORK IN PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
9:10:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU ALL ARE MISSING ONE PERSON, RIGHT ARE?
9:10:59AM >> WE ARE MISSING A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
9:11:01AM YOU KNOW, WE ARE MISSING A FEW PEOPLE.
9:11:03AM WE HAD ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WAS SICK, CORY, WE MISS HIM.
9:11:09AM BUT WE STILL CALL ON HIM.
9:11:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HE TEXTED ME THIS MORNING THE FOR ME TO BE
9:11:14AM NICE TO YOU.
9:11:15AM (LAUGHTER).
9:11:16AM >> I'M SO GLAD.
9:11:17AM YOU ARE ALWAYS NICE SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:11:19AM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WE SO APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT
9:11:23AM COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEARS FOR COMING AND
9:11:27AM SUPPORTING OUR CELEBRATION, COME TO SUPPORT IN OUR
9:11:30AM FUND-RAISERS, AND JUST BEING VERY NICE AND OPEN TO TALKING
9:11:34AM WITH US AND ANY SUGGESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE.
9:11:37AM YOU HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO LISTEN TO.
9:11:39AM AND FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE OUR LAST TIME TO SEE THEM BECAUSE
9:11:43AM YOU ARE GOING ON TO FUTURE ENDEAVORS, WE WISH YOU ALL THE
9:11:46AM LUCK.
9:11:46AM AND AGAIN WE THANK YOU.
9:11:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO REFRESHMENTS WILL BE REAL FOOD?
9:11:55AM >> YES, IT WILL BE REAL FOOD.
9:11:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE WANT TO GO OUT ON TOP.
9:11:59AM >> DEFINITELY.
9:12:01AM WE WILL DO THAT.
9:12:01AM THANK YOU.
9:12:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
9:12:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:12:06AM WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:12:09AM MR. SHELBY.
9:12:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING.
9:12:11AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:12:14AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS TO
9:12:16AM SPEAK ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
9:12:19AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR PUBLIC
9:12:22AM HEARING YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING TODAY'S
9:12:24AM MEETING.
9:12:25AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:12:28AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NONAGENDAED MATTERS.
9:12:31AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:12:33AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND IT IS
9:12:36AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:12:38AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
9:12:42AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:12:43AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:12:47AM ORDERLY CONE DUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:12:51AM CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:12:53AM >> HI.
9:12:54AM FOR THE RECORD, I AM WORLDWIDE GLOBAL SOVEREIGN DESPOT.
9:13:02AM I AM THE LIVING SYSTEM.
9:13:03AM I AM THE LIVING GOVERNMENT.
9:13:04AM I AM THE LIVING TRUE TRIBUNAL COURT.
9:13:07AM I AM GOING TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE GUSTS
9:13:12AM RIGHT-OF-WAY NOW BECAUSE ALL THE GOVERNMENTS ARE GOING
9:13:13AM THROUGH AN ORGANIZATION REFORM, OVERSEEN BY PRIME MINISTER
9:13:18AM FOR UNITED STATES, PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP.
9:13:23AM DON'T GET THAT MIXED UP WITH FORMAL UNITED STATES WHICH
9:13:27AM BLACK OBAMA ILLEGALLY NOT LAWFULLY NEVER CONSTITUTIONALLY
9:13:34AM SOLD CITIZENS NAMES AND IDENTITY UNDER HIS PRESIDENTIAL.
9:13:39AM RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH A GLOBAL RELEASE OUT OF WHAT
9:13:43AM YOU CALL A MODERN DAY SLAVE SYSTEM.
9:13:45AM THAT IS WHY BLUE CAMPAIGN AND BLUE STOCK IS HEAD UP ALL
9:13:50AM ACROSS THE GLOBE.
9:13:51AM I AM YOUR LIVING HOMELAND SECURITY, YOUR LIVING LAW
9:13:54AM ENFORCEMENT, YOUR LIVING SYSTEM.
9:13:57AM I AM THE LIVING SYSTEM THAT OVERSEES EVERYTHING IN YOUR
9:14:01AM COMMERCIAL SYSTEM.
9:14:01AM YOUR COMMERCIAL SYSTEM WAS SET UP BEFORE I GOT HERE AND I'LL
9:14:07AM TELL YOU, THE AS AMERICA OVER HERE, US ABORIGINALS, THE
9:14:18AM ORIGINAL FAMILIES, FREEMASONS, STARS, WE ARE COME BACK INTO
9:14:22AM PLACE AND TAKING OUR POSITIONS.
9:14:24AM BUT YOU GUYS SET UP THE WORK SCENE.
9:14:27AM THAT'S WHERE YOUR CIVILIANS, PUBLIC SECTOR, AND CITIZENS,
9:14:35AM PRESIDENTS, COME INTO PLAY.
9:14:38AM BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT WITHOUT A WRITTEN PLAN.
9:14:43AM THAT'S WHAT TRUMP WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN.
9:14:45AM WE ARE THE LIVING FAMILY.
9:14:46AM THE REST OF THE GLOBE LIKE AFRICA AND THE REST OF THEM, THEY
9:14:49AM ARE A BUSINESS.
9:14:51AM NOW BUSINESS IS NEVER SUPPOSED TO EVER OVERRUN FAMILY,
9:14:55AM OVERRUN PEOPLE.
9:14:56AM AS WE HAVE OPENED UP THE GOVERNMENT HERE IN TAMPA AS THE
9:15:00AM HEADQUARTERS HERE IN TAMPA IS THE CAPITAL OF ONLY A LIVING
9:15:04AM PEOPLE CAN OPEN UP A GOVERNMENT, AND ONLY A LIVING PEOPLE
9:15:06AM CAN ISSUE TRUE CURRENCY.
9:15:11AM THAT'S THE ONLY LAWFUL AND THE ONLY LIVING KINGDOM SET FORTH
9:15:16AM 2019 AS THE REST OF THE GLOBALISTS, POLICY WENT UNDER
9:15:23AM EVERYTHING BUT LAW.
9:15:24AM THAT'S ALL THE RELIGIOUS AGREE THEY WERE NOT UNDER LAW AND
9:15:27AM NOT UNDER GOD.
9:15:28AM SO AS WE COME OUT OF DARKNESS, COME INTO THE LIGHT, COME
9:15:32AM INTO INTELLECTUALNESS.
9:15:35AM WE NEED THE GOVERNMENTS TO GET SET ON A MIND FRAME MOVING
9:15:39AM FORWARD.
9:15:39AM WE ARE NOT CHASING YOUR GHOSTS.
9:15:41AM WE ARE NOT SITTING THERE DWELLING IN YOUR WICKEDNESS AS WE
9:15:44AM NEED ALL PEOPLE, ALL FAMILIES.
9:15:54AM [NO ENCODER]
9:16:10AM [NO ENCODER]
9:16:10AM >> MY WIFE AND I MOVED INTO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS TWO YEARS AGO.
9:16:18AM WE LOVE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
9:16:19AM WE LOVE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:16:22AM WE ARE FROM PERPETUAL WEARINESS OF OHIO ORIGINALLY.
9:16:30AM WE ARE ALLEGES OUTSIDE.
9:16:32AM PURCHASED THE HOUSE TWO YEARS AGO AND WE PUT IN A POOL.
9:16:34AM WE INVESTED IN OUR HOUSE, OUR LARGEST INVESTMENT.
9:16:38AM APPROXIMATELY AT THE END OF DECEMBER, WE HAD A NEW NEIGHBOR
9:16:41AM MOVE IN, LAST SUMMER.
9:16:45AM HE DECIDED TO BUILD A SKATE RAMP IN HIS BACKYARD, WITHOUT
9:16:48AM PERMITS, RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LOIN.
9:16:51AM IT'S 700 SQUARE FEET.
9:16:53AM WE LOST ALL PRIVACY ON OUR FIRST FLOOR.
9:16:57AM NOT ONLY DID WE LOSE OUR PRIVACY ON THE FIRST FLOOR BUT FROM
9:17:00AM THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOW WHEN YOU LOOK OUT ALL YOU CAN SEE IS
9:17:03AM A SKATE RAMP, A SKATING STRUCTURE.
9:17:05AM I DIDN'T WANT TO BE THAT NEIGHBOR.
9:17:07AM I TRIED TO WORK WITH HIM.
9:17:10AM I OFFERED TO HELP HIM MOVE IT.
9:17:12AM AND HIS EXACT WORDS WERE HE DOESN'T WANT TO MOVE IT BECAUSE
9:17:15AM HE DOESN'T WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM HIS BEDROOM.
9:17:19AM MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATION, I HAVE SO MANY CONCERNS WHICH I
9:17:23AM LISTED ALL IN THE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE YOU BUT MY LARGEST
9:17:26AM CONCERN OBVIOUSLY IS MY PROPERTY VALUE AND MY PRIVACY.
9:17:30AM NOBODY WOULD EVER WANT TO BAY OUR HOME SHOULD WE HAVE TO
9:17:32AM SELL OUR HOME BECAUSE OF WHAT THIS NEIGHBOR HAS DONE.
9:17:39AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, IN ALL THE ORDINANCES, I COULDN'T FIND --
9:17:42AM AND I TALKED, THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES AS TO WHAT'S
9:17:46AM CONSIDERED A STRUCTURE OR NOT.
9:17:47AM HE WAS JUST CITED YESTERDAY BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
9:17:51AM BUT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE, WHAT IS CONSIDERED
9:17:53AM A STRUCTURE OR NOT, AND ZONING CALLED IT A STRUCTURE.
9:17:59AM THEY NEED TO MOVE IN THE 21 DAYS.
9:18:01AM BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT EVERY NIGHT.
9:18:04AM IN THE BROCHURE I ALSO BROUGHT A DECIBEL READING AS WELL,
9:18:08AM TOO.
9:18:10AM EVERY TIME THEY USE IT, IT'S HIGHER THAN 60 DECIBELS.
9:18:14AM SO, I'M NERVOUS THIS MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:18:19AM I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING DONE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IMMEDIATELY
9:18:22AM BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALISTIC.
9:18:24AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I RECEIVED YOUR E-MAIL.
9:18:29AM I SENT IT ON TO BOTH THOM SNELLING WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OUR
9:18:33AM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS BUILT WITH A
9:18:37AM PERMIT OR NOT.
9:18:37AM I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT.
9:18:40AM AND ALSO WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
9:18:43AM SO I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A RESPONSE YET.
9:18:45AM I JUST SENT IT THIS MORNING.
9:18:47AM YOU HAD SENT YOUR E-MAIL A COUPLE DAYS AGO.
9:18:49AM I HAD SOME TECHNOLOGY ISSUES WITH MY COMPUTER SO I SAW IT
9:18:52AM THIS MORNING.
9:18:52AM AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
9:18:54AM I HAVE GOT YOUR E-MAIL.
9:18:55AM AND I AM GOING TO RESPOND REGARDLESS.
9:18:57AM >> I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:18:59AM I EMAILED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AS WELL OVER THE WEEKEND AND
9:19:02AM MONDAY CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS KNOCKING ON MY DOOR SO I WAS
9:19:06AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
9:19:07AM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:19:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE NEIGHBOR SAID THEY DON'T WANT TO
9:19:12AM MOVE IT CLOSER TO THEIR HOME BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE
9:19:16AM IT FROM THEIR WINDOW?
9:19:18AM >> CORRECT.
9:19:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THEY MOVED IT CLOSER TO YOUR
9:19:21AM PROPERTY LINE?
9:19:22AM >> IT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
9:19:23AM OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAINED AS WELL TOO.
9:19:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE PREPARED THIS MOTION THAT I WILL
9:19:30AM BRING UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING REGARDING THIS AND WE'LL
9:19:35AM GET THE BALL ROLLING.
9:19:36AM I KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ON IT BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT ELSE WE
9:19:39AM CAN DO FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT.
9:19:40AM >> OKAY.
9:19:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:19:43AM >>HARRY COHEN: I HAD A ACCIDENT THAT HAD THIS PROBLEM ABOUT
9:19:47AM SIX YEARS AGO IN BEACH PARK AND IT WAS EXTREMELY UPSETTING
9:19:50AM TO THEM BECAUSE THEY WOULD SIT IN THEIR BACKYARD AND LISTEN
9:19:53AM TO THE NOISE.
9:19:54AM AND AT THE TIME, WE WERE INVESTIGATING IT.
9:19:57AM THERE WAS SOME RELIANCE FROM THE PERSON WHO BUILT IT ON THE
9:20:01AM WAY SWING SETS ARE CONSTRUCTED.
9:20:03AM THEY HAD USED THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT RULES TO JUSTIFY
9:20:08AM DOING THIS.
9:20:09AM AND WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENED IS WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, THE
9:20:13AM THING WAS DESTROYED IN A STORM.
9:20:16AM AND IT ENDED UP, THE PROBLEM GOT SORT OF RESOLVED BECAUSE IT
9:20:19AM WAS ACTUALLY -- IT ACTUALLY GOT DESTROYED, AND SO --
9:20:29AM >> YOU KNOW, IT'S A GIANT THING.
9:20:34AM IT'S NOT IN THE GROUND.
9:20:37AM PEOPLE ARE FLYING OVER THE FENCE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ON THE
9:20:39AM PROPERTY LINE.
9:20:40AM THERE'S SO MANY NEGATIVE THINGS THERE THAT OUR PROPERTY
9:20:44AM VALUES ARE GREATLY DIMINISHED AS A RESULT OF THIS.
9:20:47AM >> QUIET ENJOYMENT.
9:20:49AM >> EXACTLY.
9:20:50AM AND OUR PRIVACY.
9:20:51AM WE HAVE NO PRIVACY ANYMORE.
9:20:52AM ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS, AND
9:20:56AM GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED, AND MORE IMPORTANT GET IT ADDRESSED
9:20:59AM IN OUR ORDINANCES I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE MORE
9:21:01AM ARE COMING.
9:21:02AM THERE'S THREE NOW IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT I AM AWARE OF AND
9:21:04AM IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
9:21:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:21:07AM WE GOT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE
9:21:09AM WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS.
9:21:10AM >> THANK YOU.
9:21:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:21:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:21:19AM JERRY FRANKHOUSER, T.H.A.N. PRESIDENT.
9:21:22AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE TREE
9:21:25AM ORDINANCE THING.
9:21:27AM WE ARE BACK AT IT AGAIN.
9:21:28AM IT'S NUMBER 62 ON THE AGENDA.
9:21:30AM SO IT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR AFTER-LUNCH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
9:21:36AM SURE THAT YOU ARE IN WITH PLAN B, OPTION B, AND ALSO MAKE
9:21:41AM SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NOTICED WHENEVER THERE'S A
9:21:48AM PROBLEM WITH THE TREE, WHETHER IT'S GOOD, BAD OR
9:21:52AM INDIFFERENT.
9:21:53AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:21:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:22:00AM CYNTHIA DUNCAN.
9:22:01AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, YOUR TIME AND
9:22:04AM ATTENTION TO THE TREE CODE ISSUE.
9:22:07AM YOU ARE LIKE, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
9:22:08AM WHEN WE BRIEFED YOU LAST YEAR WE BRIEFED SIX OF YOU AND THE
9:22:11AM BRIEFING WAS THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE IS THE SMALL LOT, IT
9:22:15AM HASN'T CHANGED, BUT IT WAS THE TREE WITHIN TEN FEET OF THE
9:22:19AM STRUCTURE.
9:22:19AM TEN FEET.
9:22:20AM THE BUILDERS AND THE TREE ADVOCATES WERE ALL ON BOARD WITH
9:22:23AM THAT.
9:22:24AM WE JUST HADN'T GOT TEN CITY ON BOARD.
9:22:26AM SO WE CAME TO YOU AND WE BRIEFED YOU, MOTSINGER CAME WITH
9:22:31AM US, WE WERE ALL IN SYNC AND IT WAS TEN FEET FROM THE TREE.
9:22:34AM LOOK AT THE SLIDE I GAVE YOU LAST YEAR.
9:22:37AM THEN WHEN WE MET WITH THE CITY THEY SAID IT HAS TO BE
9:22:40AM SCIENTIFIC, IT NEEDS TO BE THE PRZ.
9:22:43AM SO I QUESTIONED IT AT THE TIME BUT I CHANGED IT.
9:22:46AM JERRY BROWN IS NOW ASKING WHY ARE YOU CAN TRYING TO FIX IT?
9:22:49AM DO YOU FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE YOU WROTE THE CODE?
9:22:52AM YES, I DO.
9:22:53AM AS COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN SAID YOU MAKE A DEAL, YOU STICK WITH
9:22:56AM THE DEAL.
9:22:57AM NOT IF YOU REALIZE THE DEAL IS FLAWED.
9:22:59AM IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY ON
9:23:01AM IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE AMENDMENT AND THEN
9:23:04AM WE SAW THE FLAW.
9:23:05AM THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT A BUILDER FROM MOVING A HOUSE
9:23:08AM CLOSER TO A TREE JUST TO CUT IT DOWN.
9:23:10AM THAT'S BEEN FIXED.
9:23:12AM KRISTIN MORA IN THE WE WRITE.
9:23:14AM WE WERE EITHER COMING TO YOU TO FIX THE BE REWRITE OR CAN
9:23:18AM COMING TO YOU TO CHANGE THE AMENDMENT.
9:23:19AM SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUILDERS FOR TWO MONTHS NOW
9:23:22AM AND WE CAN'T COME TO CLOSURE.
9:23:25AM THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE WAS SUPPOSED TO REMOVE TREES THAT THE
9:23:29AM VRB IS GOING TO REMOVE ANYWAY.
9:23:31AM THE VRB IS NOT GOING TO REMOVE A TREE THAT'S 20 FEET FROM
9:23:35AM THE STRUCTURE AND LOOK AT THE LIMBS.
9:23:36AM CAN YOU PRUNE THE LIMBS?
9:23:38AM CAN YOU MOVE INTO THE SETBACK?
9:23:40AM THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT RECONFIGURATION.
9:23:43AM CAN YOU RECONFIGURE?
9:23:44AM THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT PRUNING AND ALTERNATE METHODS.
9:23:47AM THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE IS NOT LOOKING AT ANY OF THAT.
9:23:50AM IT A EXTREME LINE PROCESS.
9:23:51AM WHERE IS THE TREE?
9:23:52AM IS IT IN THE ZONE?
9:23:53AM IS IT SO CLOSE TO THE HOUSE THAT YOU COULDN'T SHIFT, USE
9:23:56AM ALTERNATE CONSTRUCTION TO SAVE IT?
9:23:58AM THAT DISTANCE IS THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE.
9:24:01AM SO WE AGREED TO THE PRZ BUT NOW WE SEE WORKING WITH KATHY
9:24:06AM BECK THAT TOO MANY TREES ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED.
9:24:09AM SO WORSE CASE IF YOU MAKE THAT A SHORTER DISTANCE, A FEW
9:24:13AM TREES WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE VRB BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LONGER
9:24:16AM ELIGIBLE AND THE VRB WILL LOOK AT IT, CAN WE USE REASONABLE
9:24:19AM RECONSTRUCTION AND SAVE THE TREE?
9:24:22AM IT LIKE WHEN YOU GO IN AND GET YOUR HAIR CUT. IN MILITARY
9:24:26AM YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR HAIR A CERTAIN LENGTH SO YOU GET IT
9:24:28AM TRIMMED, GET IT TRIMMED, GET IT TRIMMED AND THEN YOU GO,
9:24:31AM LET'S STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS.
9:24:32AM LET'S NOT GET OUR HAIR CUT EVERY FOUR DAYS.
9:24:35AM LET'S CUT OUR HAIR SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
9:24:38AM STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
9:24:42AM I CAN'T UNDO THAT.
9:24:43AM I CAN'T PUT IT BACK.
9:24:44AM WHEN YOU CUT DOWN THESE LIVE OAKS BECAUSE YOU SET THAT
9:24:48AM BARRIER OUT TOO FAR YOU CAN'T UNPLANT THEM.
9:24:51AM THAT 50-INCH LIVE OAK WILL NOT GROW BACK IN OUR LIVE TIME,
9:24:54AM IN OUR CHILDREN'S LIFETIME, PROBABLY ANYONE WHO IS ALIVE
9:24:58AM TODAY LIFETIME.
9:24:59AM SO LET ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE TREES.
9:25:02AM YOU CAN'T UNCUT THOSE TREES.
9:25:04AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:25:08AM >> WILL THAT HAIR GO BACK ON?
9:25:10AM >> I AM NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
9:25:12AM THINK ABOUT THAT.
9:25:12AM YOU CAN'T UNCUT THESE TREES.
9:25:15AM SUAREZ LET'S BE CLEAR ON SOMETHING.
9:25:17AM THE CHOICES THAT WERE PRESENTED AND YOU PROBABLY SAW THEM.
9:25:20AM I HOPE THAT THEY SENT TO THE YOU.
9:25:22AM WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS THAT YOU ARE ASKING US TO APPROVE
9:25:24AM TODAY?
9:25:25AM >> OPTION B.
9:25:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OPTION B ON EVERYTHING?
9:25:29AM ALL YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
9:25:31AM >>ARE YES.
9:25:31AM WE CHANGED OPTION B TO AGREE WITH THE STAFF ON THE PRUNING
9:25:34AM BECAUSE WE REALIZED --
9:25:39AM [NO ENCODER]
9:25:40AM [NO ENCODER]
9:25:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF YOU COME BACK IN THREE WEEKS I'LL FIX IT.
9:25:48AM CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING YOUR HAIR DONE TODAY.
9:25:50AM >> I HAVE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.
9:25:52AM BUT PLEASE ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE TREES.
9:25:55AM YOU CAN SEND IT TO COUNCIL HOPEFULLY --
9:25:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MRS. CAPIN.
9:26:00AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE BEEN HERE NINE YEARS BUT IT'S A
9:26:04AM FIRST WHERE SOMEONE CUTS THEIR HAIR.
9:26:07AM HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE?
9:26:08AM HAVE YOU SEEN THAT?
9:26:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST SAW IT.
9:26:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT IS A FIRST.
9:26:13AM OKAY.
9:26:14AM THAT'S IT.
9:26:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:26:17AM THANK YOU.
9:26:19AM WE HOPE YOU FRAME THAT.
9:26:21AM (LAUGHTER).
9:26:27AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, PARADISE MISSIONARY
9:26:33AM BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:26:34AM WISH YOU ALL HAD DONE MUCH DAMAGE TO MY CHURCH SO I CAN'T
9:26:41AM GET INTO MY PARKING LOT AND I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE THURSDAY
9:26:44AM AFTER THURSDAY AFTER THURSDAY.
9:26:45AM NOTHING EVER GET DONE AS IF YOU ALL DON'T CARE.
9:26:49AM AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY, I NEED TO KNOW WHITE
9:26:56AM HISTORY, WRITE A BOOK ABOUT IT AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S TRUE.
9:27:00AM OURS IS A DARK HISTORY FOR BLACK FOLKS.
9:27:02AM AND I AM GOING TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT IT AND I AM WRITING A
9:27:05AM BOOK ABOUT IT AS WE TALK.
9:27:06AM BUT BASICALLY THE REASON I COME UP HERE, BLACK DON'T HAVE NO
9:27:12AM BLACK HISTORY.
9:27:13AM LONG TIME AGO THEY CALLED US SLAVES WERE HERE.
9:27:21AM NOT REALIZING GOD CREATED US IN HIS IMAGE.
9:27:25AM IF HE'S CALLING US HUMAN BEING WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CALL
9:27:30AM GOD?
9:27:30AM I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH.
9:27:31AM THAT SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND GOD MADE EVERYTHING, CREATED
9:27:34AM THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH, AND ALL THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.
9:27:39AM WE WANT TO LEAVE GOD OUT OF EVERYTHING.
9:27:41AM GOT SO MUCH KILLING GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL NARD NOW.
9:27:45AM WHEN IT TOOK HER OUT OF SCHOOL, TOOK THE BIBLE OUT OF
9:27:52AM SCHOOL.
9:27:52AM NOW THE ATHEISTS, THEY ARE KILLING ALL THE INNOCENT
9:27:57AM CHILDREN.
9:27:58AM THEY CAN'T EVEN GO TO SCHOOL IN PEACE.
9:28:00AM IT'S SO SAD.
9:28:01AM AND YET YOU ALL PROMOTE STUFF LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.
9:28:05AM AND I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION SUPPOSED
9:28:10AM TO BE DOING WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED HIM TO DO.
9:28:12AM AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE THAT ELECTED BUT YOU ALL
9:28:16AM ARE NOT DOING NOTHING FOR US.
9:28:17AM ONLY THING YOU ALL DONE, IT'S NOT RIGHT.
9:28:23AM YOU NEED TO STAND UP FOR THE PEOPLE'S SAKE.
9:28:26AM NOW IT'S NOT GOING LIKE THAT.
9:28:28AM GLORY BE TO GOD.
9:28:29AM GOD IS GOING TO HAVE HIS JUDGMENT ONE DAY SOONER OR LATER.
9:28:32AM I AM GOING TO READ SOME SCRIPTURE OUT OF THE BIBLE BEFORE
9:28:35AM YOU ALL CUT ME OFF.
9:28:36AM 14th CHAPTER ST. JOHN.
9:28:38AM LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED.
9:28:40AM YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME, THAT'S JESUS
9:28:46AM TALKING, NOT ME MYSELF.
9:28:49AM IF IT WERE NOT SO I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU.
9:28:51AM I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, AND IF I GO TO PREPARE A
9:28:55AM PLACE FOR YOU I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF.
9:28:59AM THAT'S WHERE I AM.
9:29:00AM THERE YOU BE ALSO.
9:29:01AM AND WHERE I GO YOU KNOW, AND THE WAY YOU KNOW.
9:29:06AM THOMAS SAID TO HIM, LORD, WE NOT KNOW WHERE THOU GOETH.
9:29:12AM JESUS CHRIST SAID I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT.
9:29:17AM NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME.
9:29:20AM I HOPE YOU ALL DIGEST THAT.
9:29:22AM IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
9:29:24AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU KNOW, THE WORD COMPROMISE MEANS THAT
9:29:29AM BOTH SIDES GIVE, AND THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS
9:29:33AM REGARDING THE TREE CODE.
9:29:35AM THERE'S NO SIDE PARTICULARLY THAT IS WINNING OR LOSING.
9:29:40AM WE SAT.
9:29:41AM WE DISCUSSED.
9:29:42AM WE MODIFIED.
9:29:44AM WE AMENDED.
9:29:46AM WE REVISED.
9:29:47AM WE SENT ALL OF OUR STUFF IN TO CITY COUNCIL.
9:29:49AM WE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF, CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND TO
9:29:53AM COME UP AND SAY WE WANT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS BEING INCLUDED AS
9:29:56AM THE OPTION FOR THE ORDINANCE ADOPTION IS FUNDAMENTALLY
9:30:00AM WRONG.
9:30:01AM THAT IS NOT A COMPROMISE.
9:30:02AM THAT IS WE WANT IT OUR WAY.
9:30:05AM I DON'T HAVE ANY HAIR TO CUT OFF AND BE DRAMATIC AND SAY CUT
9:30:09AM THIS AND THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
9:30:10AM THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
9:30:12AM THE POINT IS, WE SAT DOWN AND REACHED AN AGREEMENT.
9:30:15AM AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND LATER AMEND THIS CODE, THAT
9:30:18AM CAN HAPPEN.
9:30:20AM IT'S BEING TRANSFERRED OUT OF ONE SECTION OF THE CODE AND
9:30:23AM IT'S BEING PLACED INTO CHAPTER 27 WHERE THOSE AMENDMENTS CAN
9:30:26AM TAKE PLACE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
9:30:29AM WE HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED THIS CODE YET.
9:30:31AM WE ARE IMAGINING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ABUSE IT.
9:30:33AM YOU CANNOT ASSUME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ABUSE BEFORE IT
9:30:36AM HAPPENS.
9:30:38AM THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO THIS.
9:30:41AM THIS IS NOT JUST BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS.
9:30:43AM THESE ARE HOMEOWNERS.
9:30:44AM SO ALL THOSE RULES WILL APPLY TO EVERYONE.
9:30:48AM AND IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
9:30:51AM IT WILL BE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT FOR A HOME OWNER TO GET
9:30:54AM THROUGH THE PROCESS ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED.
9:30:57AM THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION.
9:30:59AM AND IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS.
9:31:01AM SO I AM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT YOU GO WITH WHAT THE
9:31:04AM CITY IS REQUESTING.
9:31:05AM WE AGREED ON A ROOT PROTECTIVE ZONE I.DON'T SEE ANY REASON
9:31:11AM EXCEPT FOR SPECULATION TO CHANGE IT.
9:31:13AM I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN SUPPORTING THAT.
9:31:17AM THANK YOU.
9:31:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK?
9:31:24AM ALL RIGHT.
9:31:27AM DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
9:31:30AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
9:31:31AM SEEING NONE WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:31:34AM ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:31:40AM ORDINANCE.
9:31:40AM >> ITEMS NUMBER 2 -- JULIE HARDY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:31:48AM ITEMS 2, 3, 4 AND 5 ARE SIMILAR, THEY ARE DECLARATIONS,
9:31:56AM STATE THAT PREVIOUS ORDINANCES ARE NULL AND VOID BECAUSE
9:31:59AM CERTAIN CONDITIONS WERE NOT MET WITHIN THE TIME FRAMES UNDER
9:32:01AM THOSE ORDINANCES.
9:32:07AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
9:32:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: COUNCIL?
9:32:11AM MR. SUAREZ, ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:32:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT FIRST READING -- EXCUSE ME, I
9:32:16AM PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
9:32:18AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA DECLARING ORDINANCE
9:32:21AM NUMBER 2002-89 WHICH VACATED CLOSED DISCONTINUED AND
9:32:26AM ABANDONED CERTAIN RIGHTS-OF-WAY PORTIONS OF WALTON STREET,
9:32:30AM BALL STREET, CUMBERLAND STREET, GARRISON AVENUE, CAESAR
9:32:34AM STREET, TOGETHER WITH CERTAIN ALLEYS LYING IN AN AREA
9:32:38AM GENERALLY BOUNDED BY FINLEY STREET ON THE NORTH, BROREIN
9:32:43AM STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE ON THE SOUTH, NEBRASKA AVENUE
9:32:46AM ON THE WEST AND BENEFICIAL DRIVE AND CSX RAILROAD
9:32:50AM RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE EAST IN MAP OF FINLEY AND CAESAR
9:32:54AM SUBDIVISION, AW GILCHRIST'S OAK GROVE ADDITION TO TAMPA AND
9:33:00AM CHAMBERLAIN SUBDIVISION ALL BEING SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY
9:33:03AM OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA TO BE NULL AND VOID BY
9:33:06AM OPERATION OF LAW DUE TO PETITIONER'S FAILURE TO MEET THE
9:33:09AM CONDITIONS SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
9:33:13AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:33:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. VIERA.
9:33:18AM DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
9:33:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:33:19AM OPPOSED?
9:33:20AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
9:33:23AM MARCH 7th, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
9:33:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 3.
9:33:30AM MR. COHEN.
9:33:31AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
9:33:34AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE -- EXCUSE ME?
9:33:43AM START AGAIN.
9:33:45AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
9:33:47AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
9:33:50AM DECLARING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2004-174, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED,
9:33:56AM DISCONTINUED, ABANDONED RIGHTS-OF-WAY PORTIONS OF WALTON
9:33:59AM STREET, BALL STREET, CUMBERLAND STREET, GARRISON AVENUE,
9:34:03AM CAESAR STREET, TOGETHER WITH CERTAIN ALLIES LIQUOR IN AN
9:34:07AM AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY FINLEY STREET ON THE NORTH,
9:34:09AM BROREIN STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE ON THE SOUTH, NEBRASKA
9:34:12AM AVENUE ON THE WEST AND BENEFICIAL DRIVE AND CSX RAILROAD
9:34:16AM RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE EAST, THE MAP OF FINLEY AND CAESAR
9:34:20AM SUBDIVISION, AW GILCHRIST'S OAK GROVE ADDITION TO TAMPA AND
9:34:25AM CHAMBERLAIN'S SUBDIVISION, ALL BEING SUBDIVISIONS IN THE
9:34:29AM CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA TO BE NULL AND
9:34:32AM VOID BY OPERATION OF LAW MUCH DUE TO PETITIONER'S FAILURE DO
9:34:36AM MEET THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
9:34:39AM ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:34:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
9:34:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:34:45AM OPPOSED?
9:34:46AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
9:34:48AM MARCH 7th, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
9:34:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:34:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:34:56AM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
9:34:58AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
9:35:00AM DECLARING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005-104, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED,
9:35:05AM DISCONTINUED AND ABANDONED A PORTION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN
9:35:09AM AS EUNICE AVENUE LYING BETWEEN MORGAN STREET ON THE WEST AND
9:35:16AM JEFFERSON STREET ON THE EAST IN HENDRY AND KNIGHT'S MAP OF
9:35:20AM THE GARRISON SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
9:35:22AM COUNTY FLORIDA TO BE NULL AN VOID BY OPERATION OF LAW DUE TO
9:35:27AM PETITIONER FAILURE TO MEET THE CONDITIONS ASSET FORTH
9:35:32AM THEREIN PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
9:35:36AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:35:36AM >> SECOND.
9:35:36AM >> ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:35:36AM >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7, 2019
9:35:41AM AT 9:30 A.M.
9:35:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 5.
9:35:44AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: FILE C-07-12.
9:35:51AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
9:35:53AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA DECLARING
9:35:55AM ORDINANCE NUMBER 2007-236, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED,
9:36:00AM DISCONTINUED AND ABANDONED CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY ALL THAT
9:36:04AM PORTION OF BALL STREET THAT IS BOUND BY CAESAR STREET TO THE
9:36:09AM WEST AND SOUTH MERIDIAN AVENUE TO THE EAST, IN AW GILCHRIST
9:36:14AM OAK GROVE A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
9:36:16AM COUNTY FLORIDA TO BE NULL AND VOID BY OPERATION OF LAW DUE
9:36:20AM TO PETITIONER'S FAILURE TO MEET THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH
9:36:23AM HEREIN PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
9:36:27AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:36:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MRS. CAPIN.
9:36:32AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:36:33AM DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
9:36:34AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:36:37AM OPPOSED?
9:36:37AM >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7, 2019
9:36:42AM AT 9:30 A.M.
9:36:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 6.
9:36:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FILE NUMBER 6.
9:36:49AM FILE 2019-8-27, PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
9:36:55AM AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A PORTION OF TAMPA AS A CLEAN ZONE
9:36:59AM IN ORDER TO REGULATE ACTIVITY FROM APRIL 3, 2019 THROUGH
9:37:03AM APRIL 8, 2019 IN PREPARATION FOR HOSTING THE 2019 NCAA
9:37:07AM WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR DESIGNATING GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES, DATES
9:37:11AM AND TIMES FOR THE CLEAN ZONE REGULATING AND PROHIBITING
9:37:15AM TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITY, TENTS, SIGNAGE, AND COMMERCIAL
9:37:20AM PROMOTION IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PROVIDING FOR INSPECTIONS AND
9:37:23AM PERMITS PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS
9:37:26AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, BE REPEALING CONFLICTS,
9:37:29AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:37:29AM >> SECOND.
9:37:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:32AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:37:36AM IS ANYONE HERE TO SAY WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE?
9:37:42AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:37:44AM IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME BOUNDARY THAT WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF
9:37:50AM 27 FOR THE NHL ALL STARS BUT I WILL GET A MAP FOR YOU.
9:38:18AM THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE NHL ALL STAR GAME.
9:38:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:38:24AM DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
9:38:25AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:38:27AM OPPOSED?
9:38:27AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND LEADING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
9:38:31AM MARCH 7, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
9:38:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:38:39AM PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:38:40AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:38:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7.
9:38:42AM >> SECOND.
9:38:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:38:45AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:38:47AM OPPOSED?
9:38:48AM OKAY.
9:38:49AM PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:38:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 8 THROUGH 14.
9:38:54AM >> SECOND.
9:38:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:38:58AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:38:59AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:39:01AM OPPOSED?
9:39:02AM OKAY.
9:39:02AM PUBLIC WORKS.
9:39:03AM BE.
9:39:05AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 28.
9:39:08AM >> SECOND.
9:39:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:39:12AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:39:15AM FINANCE.
9:39:17AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE ITEMS 29 AND 30.
9:39:19AM >> SECOND.
9:39:23AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:39:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:25AM OPPOSED?
9:39:25AM OKAY.
9:39:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 31 THROUGH 37.
9:39:33AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
9:39:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MRS. CAPIN.
9:39:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:39AM OPPOSED?
9:39:41AM OKAY.
9:39:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE ITEMS 38 THROUGH 45.
9:39:46AM >> SECOND.
9:39:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:39:50AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:39:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:55AM OPPOSED?
9:39:56AM OKAY.
9:39:57AM WE GO TO ITEM 30.
9:39:58AM >> MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ITEMS 46 --
9:40:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE WE DO HAVE THAT, ITEM NUMBER 62.
9:40:14AM WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 62.
9:40:15AM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:40:47AM AS YOU KNOW WE WERE HERE LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS THE REMAINING
9:40:52AM POLICIES, QUESTIONS FOR THE TREE CODE REWRITE.
9:40:58AM I AM JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM VERY BRIEFLY WITH YOU AS
9:41:01AM WELL AS SOME CHANGES OR TWEAKS, IF YOU WILL, THAT CAME IN
9:41:08AM THIS WEEK.
9:41:12AM THE FIRST POLICY ISSUE IS THE QUESTION OF PROXIMITY OF THE
9:41:17AM SUBJECT TO THE TREE IN THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE. THIS IS FOR
9:41:22AM GRAND TREES ONLY ACTION.
9:41:24AM YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE PROTECTED TREES WILL BE TREE
9:41:28AM SPECIFIC, TREE PROTECTIVE ROOT ZONE FOR ALL THE PROTECTED
9:41:32AM TREES BUT THIS IS JUST A QUESTION OF PROXIMITY FOR GRAND
9:41:35AM TREES, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK AND DISCUSSED WITH KATHY
9:41:43AM BECK FROM NATURAL RESOURCES.
9:41:45AM THEY CAN BE SAVED UP TO 15 FEET BASED ON THE, AND THE TREE
9:41:51AM ADVOCACY GROUP I THINK SUGGESTED THAT THEY ARE ALSO BEHIND
9:41:56AM THE 15-FOOT DISTANCE FOR THAT USE.
9:42:02AM AS FOR THE SECOND PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ACTUALLY SORT
9:42:05AM OF TWO ISSUES WRAPPED UP IN THAT.
9:42:10AM THE FIRST ONE IS THE AUTOMATIC REDUCTION.
9:42:14AM WHAT YOU HEARD THIS WEEK FROM THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP IS IT
9:42:20AM ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, NOT REQUIRED.
9:42:27AM WE CAN WRITE THAT INTO THE CODE AS A CONSIDERATION INSTEAD
9:42:29AM OF AS A REQUIREMENT ON THE PART OF REASONABLE CONFIGURATION
9:42:33AM BUT I WILL TELL YOU AS A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT THAT THE
9:42:36AM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HAS SEEN THIS AND THEY KNOW THAT YOU
9:42:39AM CAN DO THE 40% REDUCTION IN ORDER TO SAVE THE TREE AND THAT
9:42:42AM WILL SAVE THE TREE, THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO REQUIRE IT.
9:42:45AM SO WHILE CONSIDERATION, WE CAN STATE IT AS A CONSIDERATION
9:42:48AM IN THE CODE.
9:42:49AM I THINK AS A PRACTICAL REALITY IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BECOME
9:42:53AM A REQUIREMENT SO THAT YOU HAVE THE FULL INFORMATION IN FRONT
9:42:54AM OF YOU.
9:42:56AM THAT EXPLANATION.
9:42:57AM THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS HAVING A NEW AUTOMATIC REDUCTION,
9:43:02AM THE 25% FRONT YARD REGARDLESS OF PLANNING DISTRICT, 40% REAR
9:43:06AM YARD AND ONE FOOT AUTOMATIC OR TALKING ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF
9:43:12AM GRAND TREES WHERE THAT WOULD PROTECT THE TREE AND ALLOW IT
9:43:16AM TO BE PRESERVED.
9:43:17AM THE ADVOCACY GROUP SAYS APPLIED TO ALL LOTS WITHIN THE CITY.
9:43:22AM THAT IS THE SECOND PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION.
9:43:26AM AND JUST TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON OPTION C --
9:43:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: EXCUSE ME.
9:43:30AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE BUILDING
9:43:34AM INDUSTRY RECOMMENDATION.
9:43:36AM IS THIS WHAT WE APPROVED THE FIRST TIME?
9:43:39AM I MEAN, THE TITLE ON HERE IS THROWING ME A LITTLE BIT
9:43:44AM BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WAS AGREED TO OR JUST --
9:43:48AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THIS IS PART OF THE -- SO THESE REDUCTIONS
9:43:52AM WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT'S IN THE INTERIM,
9:43:56AM WAS A PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THE INTERIM.
9:43:58AM SO THIS WAS NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT THE AUTOMATIC
9:44:02AM REDUCTIONS WERE.
9:44:03AM THIS IS IN THE CODE TODAY.
9:44:04AM THESE ARE REDUCTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CODE TODAY
9:44:07AM THROUGH DESIGN EXCEPTION.
9:44:09AM AND THESE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ATTEMPT TO BE UTILIZED TO
9:44:13AM SAVE THE TREE BEFORE IT COULD BE REMOVED.
9:44:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT I AM ASKING HERE, WHAT I AM ASKING
9:44:18AM NOW, DOES THIS TITLE, BUILDING INDUSTRY RECOMMENDATION
9:44:21AM OPTION A.
9:44:22AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
9:44:23AM OH, UP HERE?
9:44:24AM YES.
9:44:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AT THE VERY TOP.
9:44:27AM POLICY DECISIONS.
9:44:27AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
9:44:31AM THIS IS DEFINITELY IN THE ORDINANCE.
9:44:33AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY EVERYBODY.
9:44:35AM SO WHEN THIS TITLE IS HERE, IT'S NOT CORRECT.
9:44:38AM THIS IS NOT CORRECT.
9:44:39AM IT WAS BY EVERYONE.
9:44:40AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
9:44:43AM YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
9:44:44AM THIS IS WHAT WAS IN THE INTERIM ORDINANCES AND IT WAS THE
9:44:46AM JOINT RECOMMENDATION.
9:44:47AM YOU ARE CORRECT.
9:44:48AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND THE OPTION A, IT SHOULD BE EVERYBODY'S
9:45:02AM RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT IS --
9:45:08AM >>KRISTIN MORA: MY APOLOGIES.
9:45:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU DON'T NEED TO APOLOGIZE.
9:45:12AM I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THIS IS BEING AS THE ONLY
9:45:19AM INDUSTRY BUN AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
9:45:21AM AND THE OTHER ONE IS BILLED AS TREE ADVOCACY GROUP
9:45:26AM RECOMMENDATION.
9:45:26AM THIS IS A CHANGE TO WHAT WAS AGREED TO THE FIRST TIME.
9:45:29AM AND THAT'S HOW THE TITLE SHOULD BE.
9:45:32AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YOU ARE CORRECT.
9:45:37AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
9:45:38AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE TREE
9:45:49AM ADVOCACY GROUP, SORT OF A MIDDLE GROUND.
9:45:59AM WHERE THE NEW DEDUCTIONS ARE FOR THE ELIGIBLE LOTS, THEY
9:46:05AM WOULD BE -- THEY CAN TAKE THOSE REDUCTIONS SO IT'S A LITTLE
9:46:09AM BIT OF AN INTERIM.
9:46:11AM THERE ARE GOING TO BE SITUATIONS WHERE THE TREE ELIGIBLE LOT
9:46:14AM DOES HAVE TO GO TO THE VRB, IF THE TREE IS NOT IN THE TREE
9:46:18AM REMOVAL ZONE FOR EXAMPLE IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE
9:46:21AM REMOVED ADMINISTRATIVELY, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO VRB AND THE
9:46:24AM QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT SHIFTING THE SETBACKS WOULD SAVE
9:46:26AM THE TREE WILL COME UP.
9:46:28AM SO OPTION C IS FOR THE MIDDLE GROUND.
9:46:31AM THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE.
9:46:33AM ON THE LAST POINT, THE PRUNING WORK THAT REQUIRES A PERMIT,
9:46:36AM WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP THIS WEEK IS
9:46:39AM THEY SORT OF MARRIED THEIR POSITION TO THE STAFF
9:46:42AM RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL GRAND TREE LIMBS REQUIRE A PERMIT
9:46:45AM FOR PRUNING.
9:46:49AM THAT IS ACTUALLY CURRENT CODE, AND I WILL JUST WRITE THIS IN
9:46:52AM HERE.
9:46:54AM AS ANOTHER OPTION.
9:46:55AM YOU COULD STICK WITH THE CURRENT CODE.
9:47:00AM SO THAT WOULD BE THE ALL GRAND TREE LIMBS WOULD REQUIRE A
9:47:04AM PERMIT FOR PRUNING AND TREE LIMBS FOUR INCHES OR GREATER
9:47:09AM OVER RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE REQUIRED, AND THAT IS THE CURRENT
9:47:12AM CODE TODAY.
9:47:15AM AND IN TERMS OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, JUST AS A POINT OF
9:47:18AM CLARIFICATION, WHAT'S KEY TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS
9:47:21AM THAT CURRENT CODE PROVISION ABOUT THE GRAND TREE LIMB,
9:47:24AM THAT'S THE PART THE STAFF DEFINITELY DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE
9:47:28AM BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF INCIDENTS OF PEOPLE
9:47:31AM DAMAGING GRAND TREES IN THE CITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN
9:47:34AM THE DO FOR ANY MORE POTENTIAL BAD PRUNING.
9:47:36AM SO THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MORE SO
9:47:40AM THAN THE CHANGE OF THE TREE LIMBS.
9:47:43AM SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND DISCUSSION ON THESE, AS YOU
9:47:48AM CAN SEE I HAVE THESE LOVELY BOARDS THAT I HAVE CREATED AND I
9:47:51AM AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS TREE REMOVAL ZONES, SETBACK
9:47:55AM REDUCTIONS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE ME TO
9:47:57AM DISCUSS.
9:47:58AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
9:47:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:48:01AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT, OKAY?
9:48:07AM GOING BACK TO THAT.
9:48:08AM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK -- THE WAY IT'S TITLED,
9:48:14AM IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE BEING BIASED.
9:48:18AM AND THAT TO ME IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.
9:48:21AM IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
9:48:23AM AT ALL.
9:48:27AM WE NEEDED TO TITLE IT THE CORRECT WAY.
9:48:30AM AND IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE BEING
9:48:34AM BIASED BY TITLING IT, THAT ONLY THE BUILDING INDUSTRY
9:48:38AM RECOMMENDED IT.
9:48:39AM IT REALLY ISN'T TRUE.
9:48:41AM AND MAYBE WE CAN WRITE ON THE TOP, TREE ADVOCACY GROUP AND
9:48:47AM BUILDING INDUSTRY.
9:48:48AM THAT WOULD HELP ME.
9:48:50AM THANK YOU.
9:48:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:49:04AM NIPPLES ON COUNCIL?
9:49:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR.
9:49:14AM THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HERE.
9:49:15AM AND MRS. CAPIN TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON IT.
9:49:18AM THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGES.
9:49:19AM WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT FROM LAST WEEK.
9:49:23AM AND MR. COHEN HAD MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE 15-FOOT THAT
9:49:26AM BECAME A DISCUSSION ITEM, AT LEAST CAME AT IT IN THERE.
9:49:29AM I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE ONE SENTENCE
9:49:33AM THAT SAYS THIS, AT THE TIME IT WAS 12 FEET, AND ON SELECTION
9:49:37AM NUMBER 1, AND THEN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY WAS 20-FOOT.
9:49:41AM 15 FEET TO ME SEEMS LIKE AN ADEQUATE COMPROMISE FROM BOTH
9:49:45AM SIDES ORIGINALLY, OKAY.
9:49:46AM I KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL PREVIOUS TREE ADVOCACY WAS 20-FOOT
9:49:50AM AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MRS. CAPIN WAS SAYING.
9:49:53AM HOW DO WE GET TO A COMPROMISE ON ONE OF THEM?
9:49:55AM SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS HAPPY AND I THINK IT'S
9:49:58AM JUST US BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON OUR DESK ANYMORE.
9:50:02AM EVERYONE ELSE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THIS NOT
9:50:04AM HAPPY.
9:50:04AM I DO LIKE, IN MY MIND, I THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES
9:50:08AM FROM LAST WEEK, I WOULD SELECT, AND THIS IS MY OWN OPINION,
9:50:14AM B UNDER 1.
9:50:15AM THE OPTIONS -- AND, YOU KNOW, THE OPTION C AND OPTION B ON
9:50:20AM NUMBER 2 ARE SIMILAR AND I THINK EASIER TO EXPLAIN WHEN YOU
9:50:23AM ARE GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THINGS.
9:50:26AM SO, I MEAN, I HAVE IN A PROBLEM WITH THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP
9:50:31AM RECOMMENDATION OPTION B.
9:50:32AM AND THEN IN ALL HONESTY, THE THIRD ONE IS REALLY THE STAFF
9:50:37AM RECOMMENDATION.
9:50:37AM IF YOU LOOK AT IT.
9:50:38AM IT IS ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP.
9:50:41AM SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, PLAY ON EACH ONE OF
9:50:44AM THEM.
9:50:44AM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM NECESSARILY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER
9:50:48AM DISCUSSIONS.
9:50:48AM I THINK ON NUMBER 2 IS REALLY WHERE MOST OF WHAT MY
9:50:53AM DISCUSSION ITEM WOULD BE, WHICH IS THE OPTION B.
9:50:55AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STICK WITH THAT.
9:50:57AM BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
9:50:58AM LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH AND FINALLY GET THIS
9:51:02AM THING MOVING.
9:51:05AM IT WILL BE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ON POLICY DECISION NUMBER 1,
9:51:12AM OPTION B ON POLICY DECISION NUMBER 2 HOE AND THIS IS
9:51:17AM ACCORDING TO THE FORM THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY MS. MORA.
9:51:23AM ON NUMBER 2 IT WOULD ALSO BE OPTION B.
9:51:25AM AND POLICY DECISION NUMBER 3, THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME AS
9:51:30AM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND AS THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP.
9:51:33AM SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
9:51:34AM >> SECOND.
9:51:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:51:43AM THOSE OPTIONS THAT HE JUST STATED WILL BE TO TRANSMIT TO
9:51:46AM THE --
9:51:48AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CORRECT.
9:51:49AM YES, SIR.
9:51:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DISCUSSION?
9:51:50AM MOTION FROM MR --
9:51:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN THE PROCESS OF PERMITTING, HOW IS THE
9:51:57AM CITY GOING TO GO OUT AND REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUALS THAT
9:52:01AM PRESENTLY HAVE LICENSES AND THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE LICENSES
9:52:05AM THAT ARE DOING IT NOW?
9:52:06AM AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE LANGUAGE BARRIER WITH SOME OF
9:52:08AM THEM WHO DO NOT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE?
9:52:10AM AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THEM PERMITTED?
9:52:12AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO THE NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF SPEND AS LOT
9:52:16AM OF TIME IN THE FIELD AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
9:52:19AM INTERACT WITH PEOPLE.
9:52:20AM THEY KNOW A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY ARE RUNNING
9:52:23AM INTO, AND THEY ARE UTILIZING THOSE TYPES OF CHANNELS TO TRY
9:52:25AM TO MAKE DIRECT CONTACT AS POSSIBLE.
9:52:28AM AND THERE'S ALSO A LANGUAGE BARRIER BUT WE ARE VERY LUCKY WE
9:52:32AM HAVE SOME BILINGUAL PEOPLE OVER AT THE ARCHITECTURAL
9:52:36AM SERVICES, LAND DEVELOPMENT SECTIONS, AND THEY RUN INTO THOSE
9:52:40AM TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
9:52:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S ASSUME THAT ALL OF THIS IS DONE
9:52:43AM AND YOU MISS SOMEONE AND HE'S FOUND GUILTY OR SHE'S FOUND
9:52:46AM DOING IT.
9:52:47AM WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
9:52:48AM >>KRISTIN MORA: WE WOULD ASK THEM TO COME IN AND REVIEW THE
9:52:54AM COURSE.
9:52:55AM THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE DO.
9:52:56AM THE CITY HAS A LOT OF LICENSING ISSUES AND THAT'S THE WAY IT
9:53:02AM DONE.
9:53:02AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND THE SECOND.
9:53:10AM BUT THE FIRST PART, MOVING IT TO THE DP, WHEN IT WAS
9:53:17AM RECOMMENDED 20 FEET FOR GRAND TREES AND WITH A SIX MONTH OR
9:53:19AM ONE-YEAR CHECKOFF, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, REVIEW,
9:53:27AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS IN FAVOR OF BECAUSE THEY HAD
9:53:31AM ALL AGREED ON IT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF IT WORKS, AND
9:53:37AM THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A SIX-MONTH REVIEW.
9:53:40AM WHY DO WE -- WE AGREED ON IT.
9:53:48AM THIS HAS GONE ON FOR, WHAT, TWO YEARS?
9:53:53AM SO THE 20-FOOT GRAND TREE WITH A SIX-MONTH REVIEW IS THE WAY
9:53:57AM I WOULD GO.
9:53:58AM I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS.
9:54:01AM IT MAY PASS BUT I NOT GOING TO PASS WITH MY VOTE.
9:54:04AM I'M SORRY, I JUST THINK THEY HAD PLENTY OF TIME, PLENTY,
9:54:10AM MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT THIS, TO BRING IT TO US AT
9:54:14AM 20 FEET.
9:54:15AM AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SIX MONTH REVIEW AS FAR AS I'M
9:54:23AM CONCERNED.
9:54:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: EVEN IF WE DO 15 FEET, WE STILL IS CAN
9:54:30AM INCLUDE THE SIX MONTHS REVIEW, RIGHT?
9:54:32AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
9:54:33AM WHATEVER OPTIONS CITY COUNCIL GOES WITH YOU CAN DO A REVIEW
9:54:36AM IN SIX MONTHS.
9:54:37AM IT'S GOING TO BE IN CHAPTER 27.
9:54:39AM SO IT WILL BE -- YOU CAN JUST MAKE A MOTION AND IT WILL GO
9:54:43AM INTO THE NEXT CYCLE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT IF YOU DETERMINE
9:54:47AM IT'S A PROBLEM.
9:54:48AM >>HARRY COHEN: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE PARKLAND ESTATES
9:54:52AM ISSUE YOU DEALT WITH BY EXEMPTING THEM?
9:54:56AM >>KRISTIN MORA: CORRECT.
9:54:57AM AND THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE ELIGIBLE LOT, PARKLAND ESTATES
9:55:02AM SPECIFICALLY.
9:55:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
9:55:04AM WE HAVE A -- IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE SIX MONTH REVIEW, CAN WE
9:55:11AM AMEND THAT MOTION?
9:55:12AM OR DO WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER?
9:55:14AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I WOULD SUGGEST YOU MIGHT DO A SEPARATE
9:55:16AM MOTION TO SET THAT FOR REVIEW.
9:55:18AM ALSO, I CAN OFFER EACH OF YOU A NEXT STEP.
9:55:21AM THERE ARE SOME CLEAN-UP ITEMS THAT WERE AGREED TO OVER THE
9:55:27AM LAST KIM OF COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
9:55:29AM IF YOU WANT TO REFERENCE THAT.
9:55:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR, TO AMEND MY ORIGINAL
9:55:32AM MOTION TO INCLUDE THE SIX-MONTH REVIEW.
9:55:38AM IN ADDITION ALL THE OTHER CLEAN-UP ITEMS THAT ARE SUGGESTED
9:55:42AM BY LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THE MOTION IS TO TRANSMIT TO THE
9:55:45AM PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:55:45AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:55:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY PLAINTIFF SUAREZ.
9:55:49AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:55:50AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
9:55:52AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:55:55AM OPPOSED?
9:55:56AM >> NAY.
9:55:57AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN VOTING NO.
9:56:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO WE ARE THROUGH WITH TREES FOR A WHILE,
9:56:04AM RIGHT?
9:56:04AM >> UNTIL FIRST READING, RIGHT.
9:56:10AM OH, COUNCIL, IF I COULD JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
9:56:13AM I THINK THAT TO COME BACK ON THE EVENING OF MARCH 14th.
9:56:17AM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN TERMS OF SCHEDULING THAT IT CAN BE
9:56:20AM DONE --
9:56:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
9:56:24AM YOU SAID ON MARCH 14th?
9:56:27AM FOR THE FIRST READING.
9:56:28AM OKAY.
9:56:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:56:30AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:56:31AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
9:56:32AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:56:35AM OPPOSED?
9:56:37AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO OPEN 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 46 THROUGH
9:56:40AM 55.
9:56:40AM >> ALL RIGHT.
9:56:42AM GOT A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
9:56:43AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:56:44AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
9:56:46AM OPPOSED?
9:56:46AM ALL RIGHT.
9:56:47AM ITEM NUMBER 46.
9:56:54AM ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON 46 THROUGH 54, PLEASE STAND TO BE
9:56:57AM SWORN IN.
9:56:57AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
9:57:09AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
9:57:10AM FOR THE RECORD, COUNCIL, THE SITE PLANS WERE CERTIFIED AND
9:57:13AM GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
9:57:16AM THEY APPLY TO ITEM NUMBER 46, 49 AND 52.
9:57:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:57:25AM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON 46?
9:57:29AM >> GREG ROTH, 4820 NORTH BAY BOULEVARD, I HAVE BEEN SWORN
9:57:42AM IN. ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER FOR ITEM NUMBER 46, WE MAKE
9:57:47AM OURSELVES AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:57:49AM MR. GRANDOFF WISHES HE COULD BE HERE AND WE ARE WISHING HIM
9:57:52AM A SPEEDY RECOVERY.
9:57:53AM ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM US, LET US KNOW.
9:57:55AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: A SPEEDY RECOVERY?
9:57:57AM >> OH, HE'S HAVING A MINOR PROCEDURE AND THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT
9:58:03AM WITH US AND THAT'S WHY YOU ARE STUCK WITH ME TODAY.
9:58:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:58:07AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 46?
9:58:09AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:58:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:58:14AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:58:15AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:58:17AM OPPOSED?
9:58:21AM MR. VIERA.
9:58:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
9:58:25AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
9:58:28AM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF IT 908 EAST FERN STREET,
9:58:31AM 905 EAST NORTH STREET AND 6307 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE IN THE
9:58:37AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
9:58:40AM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS SEMINOLE
9:58:44AM HEIGHTS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL, AND SH-CI,
9:58:50AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SH-PD, SEMINOLE
9:58:53AM HEIGHTS, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND
9:58:57AM BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:58:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
9:59:03AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:59:04AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:59:05AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND SUAREZ
9:59:13AM VOTING NO.
9:59:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 47.
9:59:18AM ANYONE ON 47?
9:59:19AM PETITIONER?
9:59:20AM ANYONE HERE FOR 47?
9:59:24AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 47?
9:59:27AM >> THIS IS FOR 1745.
9:59:52AM THE REAR PORTION OF THE LOT ON THE FRONT, AND CHANGE TO CG.
10:00:08AM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:00:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ARE YOU THE PETITIONER?
10:00:11AM >> I'M SORRY?
10:00:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ARE YOU THE PETITIONER?
10:00:13AM >> YES.
10:00:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:00:16AM ALL RIGHT.
10:00:16AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 47?
10:00:19AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:00:20AM >> SECOND.
10:00:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:00:23AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:00:24AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:00:26AM OPPOSED?
10:00:26AM ALL RIGHT.
10:00:27AM MR. COHEN.
10:00:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:00:32AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:00:35AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:00:37AM VICINITY OF 1745 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
10:00:41AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:00:46AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
10:00:49AM SINGLE-FAMILY AND CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO CG COMMERCIAL
10:00:53AM GENERAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:00:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:00:56AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:00:57AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:01:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:01:10AM PETITIONER, ANYONE?
10:01:11AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M REPRESENTING PETITIONER.
10:01:20AM 3614 WEST ANDERSON AVENUE.
10:01:23AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:01:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:01:27AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 48?
10:01:33AM MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:01:34AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:01:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:01:37AM OPPOSED?
10:01:37AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:01:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT A ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
10:01:43AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IT?
10:01:46AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 3613 WEST ANDERSON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
10:01:49AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:01:51AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
10:01:54AM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING
10:01:57AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:01:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:02:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:02:02AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:02:03AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:02:04AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
10:02:12AM VOTE.
10:02:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 49.
10:02:16AM PETITIONER, ANYONE HERE FOR 49?
10:02:18AM >> SUE MURPHY, KEENAN CONSULTING, 1818 HAMPSHIRE AVENUE,
10:02:30AM ST. PETERSBURG, PLEASURE ON BEHALF OF PETITIONER.
10:02:32AM BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, REQUEST AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10:02:38AM ADDRESS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
10:02:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:02:41AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 49?
10:02:44AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:02:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:02:47AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:02:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:02:50AM OPPOSED?
10:02:51AM MR. MANISCALCO, READ 49.
10:02:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
10:02:57AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:03:01AM VICINITY OF 111 WEST GENERAL A SEE STREET IN THE CITY OF
10:03:06AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:03:08AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:03:12AM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TO SH-PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED
10:03:16AM DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:03:18AM DATE.
10:03:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:03:20AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:03:20AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
10:03:29AM VOTE.
10:03:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:03:33AM ANYONE HERE?
10:03:34AM PETITIONER, ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 50?
10:03:37AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 50?
10:03:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:03:42AM >> SECOND.
10:03:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:03:44AM SECOND BY MR. COHEN.
10:03:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:03:47AM OPPOSED?
10:03:48AM MRS. CAPIN.
10:03:49AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: [OFF MICROPHONE] FILE REZ 18-114.
10:03:56AM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:03:59AM ADOPTION, REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3511
10:04:04AM WEST EMPEDRADO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
10:04:12AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:04:15AM CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-18
10:04:18AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:04:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:04:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:04:23AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
10:04:31AM VOTE.
10:04:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 51.
10:04:33AM ANYONE HERE, PETITIONER?
10:04:36AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 51?
10:04:38AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51?
10:04:41AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:04:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:46AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:04:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:04:48AM OPPOSED?
10:04:48AM MR. MIRANDA.
10:04:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] REZ 1-115.
10:04:54AM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:04:58AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 8714 NORTH
10:05:01AM TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
10:05:04AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:05:06AM CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18
10:05:10AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:05:11AM >> SECOND.
10:05:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:05:14AM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:05:15AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:05:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
10:05:24AM VOTE.
10:05:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 52.
10:05:25AM >> DID YOU DO 8714 NORTH TAMPA STREET?
10:05:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE JUST DID.
10:05:39AM >> THANK YOU.
10:05:40AM >> MY NAME IS PHILIP SIEGE, ENGINEER, REPRESENTING
10:05:50AM APPLICANT.
10:05:51AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
10:05:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER? ANYONE IN
10:05:54AM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?
10:05:58AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. COHEN.
10:06:00AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:06:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:06:02AM OPPOSED?
10:06:04AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:06:04AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
10:06:08AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY 2349 HE GENERAL
10:06:10AM VICINITY OF 2108 WEST AZEELE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:06:13AM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
10:06:16AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RO RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD
10:06:19AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED,
10:06:23AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:06:23AM >> SECOND.
10:06:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:06:26AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:06:27AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:06:28AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
10:06:39AM VOTE.
10:06:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 52334th.
10:06:42AM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON -- IS PETITIONER HERE FOR ITEM
10:06:46AM 533rd?
10:06:47AM >> TARA TEGRA HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:06:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
10:07:02AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 523?
10:07:06AM MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:07:07AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:07:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:07:09AM OPPOSED?
10:07:10AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:07:11AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:13AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:07:16AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:07:19AM VICINITY OF 2812 AND 2814 WEST BE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
10:07:23AM BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
10:07:25AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:07:28AM CLASSIFICATION OP, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL, TO CG, COMMERCIAL
10:07:33AM GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:07:33AM >> SECOND.
10:07:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:07:37AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:07:39AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:07:40AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
10:07:47AM VOTE.
10:07:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GO TO ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:07:50AM PETITIONER.
10:07:50AM >> LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:07:54AM STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:07:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:07:57AM ALL RIGHT.
10:07:58AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 54?
10:08:03AM MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:08:04AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:08:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:08:07AM OPPOSED?
10:08:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:08:10AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
10:08:12AM DISCONTINUING, A BAN GONG A PORTION OF ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:08:16AM LYING SOUTH OF 8th AVENUE NORTH OF 7th AVENUE EAST
10:08:19AM OF 35th STREET AND WEST OF 36th STREET IN REVISED
10:08:23AM MAP OF EAST BAY ADDITION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
10:08:25AM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
10:08:28AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT
10:08:32AM RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS MORE
10:08:35AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:08:41AM 69 MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:08:43AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:08:44AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:08:45AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:08:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:08:59AM ITEM NUMBER 55.
10:09:07AM >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY.
10:09:08AM WE ARE HERE ON NUMBER 55 TO CLARIFY AN AMBIGUITY.
10:09:13AM LET ME ASK YOU TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN ON THIS ONE
10:09:16AM WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION BECAUSE THE DECISION SHOULD BE
10:09:18AM MADE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:09:19AM ALSO CAUTION YOU THIS IS IN LITIGATION SO I WOULD RATHER NOT
10:09:22AM GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL.
10:09:23AM BUT TYPICALLY DEFINE AN AMBIGUITY.
10:09:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO WE JUST NEED TO MOVE IT?
10:09:31AM >>SAL TERRITO: SURE.
10:09:32AM >> SO MOVED.
10:09:34AM >>SAL TERRITO: YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
10:09:37AM IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:09:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:09:40AM NUMBER 55?
10:09:44AM SEEING NONE.
10:09:45AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:09:46AM >> SECOND.
10:09:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:09:47AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:09:49AM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:50AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
10:09:52AM OPPOSED?
10:09:53AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:09:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S NOT 10:30 SO WE WILL GO TO STAFF
10:10:03AM REPORTS.
10:10:06AM OH, I'M SORRY.
10:10:08AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:10:10AM OPPOSED?
10:10:11AM OKAY.
10:10:13AM ALL RIGHT.
10:10:13AM WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:10:18AM ITEM 59.
10:10:19AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:10:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK IF I COULD, I THINK 59 IS JUST TO
10:10:26AM APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE TO
10:10:29AM HAVE THE THING SO I WILL MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:10:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECOND BY
10:10:36AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:10:37AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE?
10:10:39AM OPPOSED?
10:10:39AM ALL RIGHT.
10:10:41AM ITEM NUMBER 60.
10:10:41AM >>RANDY GOERS: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
10:10:52AM YOU ASKED US TO GET WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO LOOK
10:10:55AM AT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PARKS THAT ARE ON
10:11:00AM THE DEDICATED PARKS LIST.
10:11:01AM WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THERE WAS 158 SITES THAT ARE ON THE
10:11:06AM LIST.
10:11:07AM 39 HAVE A DESIGNATION WHICH IS A RECREATION OPEN SPACE
10:11:11AM TODAY.
10:11:11AM THERE'S ABOUT 24 COMBINATION OF RECREATION OPEN SPACE AND
10:11:19AM RIGHT-OF-WAY OR PUBLIC AND SEMI-PUBLIC QUASI-PUBLIC
10:11:23AM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:11:23AM SOME SORT OF PUBLIC CATEGORY.
10:11:24AM THE BIG NUMBER IS THE 92 SITES THAT ARE DESIGNATED SOMETHING
10:11:28AM ELSE, RESIDENTIAL, MIXED USE, INDUSTRIAL, AND SO FORTH.
10:11:34AM WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN, TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANY KIND OF PLAN
10:11:37AM AMENDMENT, WHICH YOU ALL I THINK WOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE
10:11:41AM THAT OUT, 92 LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, 92 NEWSPAPER
10:11:43AM ADVERTISEMENTS, 92 MAILINGS TO BE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, 92
10:11:47AM PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS AND 92 CITY COUNCIL
10:11:49AM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:11:51AM I THINK THE QUESTION HAS TO BE ASKED ARE THEY ON THE LEFT
10:12:02AM AND WILL THEY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PLAN AMENDMENTS?
10:12:07AM NONE OF THE SITES HAVE A ZONING CATEGORY WHICH WOULD BE
10:12:11AM CONSISTENT WITH A PARK CATEGORY.
10:12:13AM IT'S REALLY NOT IN OUR ZONING CATEGORY.
10:12:15AM WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED.
10:12:17AM SO WE CHANGED THE LAND USE CATEGORY OBVIOUSLY.
10:12:20AM THE QUESTION WOULD BE DO WE NEED TO COME BACK WITH ZONING IN
10:12:24AM WHICH CASE IT WOULD BE 158-PLUS REZONING HEARINGS.
10:12:28AM I THINK WHERE WE MAY BE GOING WITH THIS, INITIALLY IT
10:12:31AM SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT IDEA TO CHANGE THE LAND USE CATEGORIES
10:12:34AM TO RECREATION OPEN SPACE, BUT IT WILL TRIGGER A LARGE PLAN
10:12:38AM AMENDMENT EFFORT THAT STAFF HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING
10:12:45AM AS WELL AS YOU ALL, IT WILL TRIGGER AN EQUALLY LARGE
10:12:48AM REZONING EFFORT.
10:12:49AM AND STAFF LOOKED AT IT AND WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT
10:12:53AM REALLY ISN'T LAND USE OF THE SITE, IT'S THE OWNERSHIP OF THE
10:12:57AM SITE THAT REALLY DETERMINES WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT AND SO
10:13:00AM FORTH.
10:13:00AM SO AS LONG AS THE CITY RETAINS OWNERSHIP, YOU KNOW IT'S
10:13:03AM GOING TO STAY IN A PUBLIC USE, A PUBLIC DOMAIN.
10:13:07AM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS THAT WE DID
10:13:12AM COME UP WITH, THE FLORIDA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CHAPTER 16
10:13:15AM WHICH YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.
10:13:17AM ONE OF THEM IS TO IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UPDATE THE
10:13:22AM CURRENT INVENTORY OF PARKS AND RECREATION, 28 SITES THAT ARE
10:13:26AM NOT ON IT.
10:13:27AM THE LIST OF BUILDINGS ON IT, IT HAS CEMETERIES, IT HAS
10:13:31AM RIGHT-OF-WAY, SMALL LITTLE POCKET PARKS.
10:13:33AM THE QUESTION IS, WHAT REALLY SHOULD BE DEDICATED PARKS LIST
10:13:37AM AND WHAT IS THAT CRITERIA?
10:13:39AM SO I THINK THERE COULD BE A MOTION TO UPDATE INVENTORY MOVE
10:13:45AM IT INTO THE RECREATIONAL SPACE.
10:13:48AM THERE MAY BE CALLING FOR SOME PUBLIC COMMUNICATION
10:13:51AM ENGAGEMENT.
10:13:52AM WATCH WE DID IN THE WEST RIVER AREA, YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD
10:13:55AM TWO PLANNING EFFORTS, CHOICE NEIGHBORHOOD GRANT, THAT SHOWED
10:13:58AM THAT THE LITTLE LEAGUE IS GOING TO BE USED FOR SOMETHING
10:14:03AM ELSE AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE RELOCATED.
10:14:05AM WE HAD EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH.
10:14:08AM BY THE TIME WE CAME TO YOU WITH THE ORDINANCE EVERYONE IN
10:14:10AM THE AREA KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHY IT WAS HAPPENING.
10:14:14AM IT WAS MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY IN SUPPORT OF IT BUT THERE WAS A
10:14:17AM VERY IN-DEPTH PUBLIC INFORMATION PROCESS.
10:14:19AM SO THE COMP PLAN COULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL POLICIES TO
10:14:23AM REQUIRE SOME SORT OF ENGAGEMENT.
10:14:29AM COMP PLAN ALREADY HAS POLICIES.
10:14:30AM IF YOU DIVERT TO THE DIFFERENT USE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE
10:14:34AM THAT THERE'S AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF PARKLAND RESERVED OR
10:14:38AM PROVIDED FOR THAT FUNCTION.
10:14:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET HIM FINISH, CHAIR.
10:14:42AM >>RANDY GOERS: THIS IS MY LAST.
10:14:45AM AND OF COURSE WE UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THEN TO COME
10:14:48AM BACK AND TO AMEND CHAPTER 16, MAKE IT CONSISTENT.
10:14:51AM YOU HAVE ALREADY GOT THE -- PASSED THE MOTION MAKING IT A
10:14:56AM VOTE OF FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY CHANGE THE LIST, WHICH
10:15:01AM WE BELIEVE IS EXTRA PROTECTION, AND THE OTHER PART IS ANY
10:15:04AM CHANGES WE MAKE IN THE INVENTORY, POSES, BRING THAT BACK AND
10:15:08AM MAKE THE ORDINANCE COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH THE
10:15:10AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:15:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD.
10:15:14AM THE LAST RECOMMENDATION WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED,
10:15:18AM WHICH IS TO TRY TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF HOW YOU CHANGE A
10:15:23AM PUBLIC USE, PRIMARILY PARKS, TO A PRIVATE USE OR FOR ANY
10:15:27AM OTHER CHANGES, AND, YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT MRS. CAPIN HAD
10:15:31AM MENTIONED IT WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE DISCUSSION LAST TIME
10:15:34AM WAS THAT THE UNDERLYING LAND USE IS DIFFERENT IN SOME OF
10:15:37AM THESE PLACES.
10:15:38AM WE HAD THIS SAME SITUATION COME UP AT ROCKY POINT.
10:15:41AM NOW, IT WASN'T A PUBLICLY OWNED PIECE OF LAND BUT AT THE
10:15:44AM SAME TIME THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT SOME OF THAT COULD
10:15:47AM HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY OWNED IN SOME WAY.
10:15:50AM NOT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL BUT OTHERS.
10:15:53AM SO I THINK WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO -- AND YOU DID LAY OUT,
10:15:56AM THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE
10:15:59AM DONE.
10:15:59AM I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AND BE STRATEGIC ABOUT THOSE PIECES
10:16:03AM OF LAND THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT OR LARGEST AND FIND OUT HOW
10:16:05AM WE CHANGE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING
10:16:09AM CLASSIFICATIONS MATCH UP WHAT THE PUBLIC USE IS.
10:16:12AM I THINK THAT IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE OTHER
10:16:14AM PART THAT WE JUST CHANGED IN CHAPTER 16, THAT'S THE LAST
10:16:17AM PART.
10:16:18AM AND I WOULD RATHER IT BE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT IN ORDER FOR
10:16:23AM THEM TO GO BACK AND BE ABLE TO HAVE TO CHANGE LAND USE AND
10:16:26AM ZONING IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT NEXT STEP, WHICH IS THE
10:16:29AM DESIGNATION, AND THEN THE VOTE HERE ON COUNCIL.
10:16:32AM IF YOU FOLLOW MY UNDERSTANDING.
10:16:34AM SO AGAIN, YES, IT'S A LOT OF WORK BUT I THINK WE ARE GOING
10:16:38AM TO HAVE TO GET THOSE PARCELS AND REALLY TAKE A LOOK AND SEE
10:16:42AM WHICH ONES ARE ALREADY DESIGNATED.
10:16:44AM I KNOW YOU HAD A WHOLE LIST OF THEM WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT
10:16:47AM LAND USE CATEGORIES.
10:16:48AM BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES THEY ARE OF THE 92.
10:16:52AM ONE MIGHT BE AL LOPEZ PARK FOR ALL I KNOW.
10:16:54AM I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT.
10:16:58AM SO WE NEED TO GET WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT EACH
10:17:01AM ONE OF THOSE PARCELS AND FIND OUT WHICH ONES WE NEED TO
10:17:04AM CHANGE NOW, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES.
10:17:06AM YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE
10:17:09AM SMALL PARCELS THAT MAY BE POCKET PARKS OR JUST RIGHTS-OF-WAY
10:17:13AM THAT ARE CONSIDERED GREENWAYS NOW AS OPPOSED TO A PARK OR
10:17:15AM SOMETHING ELSE BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.
10:17:18AM SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS GET WITH
10:17:21AM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
10:17:21AM I SEE MR. DIAL BACK THERE.
10:17:25AM I DON'T KNOW WHY STAFF GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK.
10:17:29AM YOU CAN COME FORWARD.
10:17:30AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO YOU, SIR.
10:17:35AM BUT WE MAY NEED TO DO THAT.
10:17:37AM I MAY MAKE A MOTION AFTER DISCUSSION IS OVER TO HAVE PARKS
10:17:41AM DEPARTMENT COME BACK WITH THAT LIST SO THAT OUR COUNSEL CAN
10:17:45AM LOOK AT IT AND DETERMINE TO TAKE IT OVER AND SEND IT OVER TO
10:17:48AM PLANNING COMMISSION TO CHANGE SOME OF THE LAND USE DEPENDING
10:17:50AM ON WHAT THE PROPERTY IS AND DO THE ONES THAT ARE MOST
10:17:53AM CRITICAL RIGHT NOW.
10:17:54AM THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
10:17:55AM AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
10:17:59AM MAYBE LARGER PARCELS OR MAYBE PARKS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNATED
10:18:03AM AS PARKS.
10:18:04AM >> WELL, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BUT THIS GETS BACK TO OUR
10:18:08AM RECOMMENDATION.
10:18:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD
10:18:11AM IS WHAT I AM SAYING?
10:18:15AM >>RANDY GOERS: THE PARKS ALREADY AND WHICH ONES DON'T.
10:18:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I AM LOOKING AT THE ONES IN 92.
10:18:23AM >>RANDY GOERS: GOERS EVERYTHING DOWNTOWN HAS PARKS USE OR
10:18:29AM CBD SO YOU HAVE ALL THE DOWNTOWN PARKS.
10:18:32AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO CURTIS HIXON PARK DOES NOT HAVE A LAND
10:18:35AM USE THAT DESIGNATES IT AS A PARK.
10:18:38AM >>RANDY GOERS: NO.
10:18:38AM HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
10:18:40AM BECAUSE THERE WAS AN AREA-WIDE, WHEN THE CPD, AN AREA WIDE
10:18:47AM DESIGNATION, WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN.
10:18:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THEN YOU ANSWERED MY FIRST QUESTION WHICH IS
10:18:52AM THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PARK THAT I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD
10:18:56AM PROBABLY AGREE THAT THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE UNDERLYING LAND
10:18:58AM USE SHOULD BE A PARK.
10:19:01AM AND YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE MY POINT, WHICH IS WE DO
10:19:04AM DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE IMMEDIATELY.
10:19:07AM >>RANDY GOERS: AND THAT'S WHY MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO
10:19:10AM UPDATE THE INVENTORY TO DETERMINE WHICH ONES SHOULD BE.
10:19:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BECAUSE I THINK THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE
10:19:17AM ALL HAVE, WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE AN IMPORTANT PARK, AND ONCE
10:19:20AM WE GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE
10:19:23AM NEIGHBORHOODS, SAY WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT PARK.
10:19:27AM SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD SAY WHY WE RECOMMEND YOU UPDATE THE
10:19:31AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INVENTORY, YOU ALLOW IT TO BE IN PUBLIC
10:19:34AM PROCESS AND LET EVERYBODY BRING THE INFORMATION IN AND WE
10:19:37AM COME TO YOU WITH PROBABLY A DEDICATED PARKS LIST WHICH
10:19:41AM HOPEFULLY HAS PASSED THE CRITERIA TEST OF NOT ONLY WHAT
10:19:46AM STAFF THINKS IS AN IMPORTANT PARK BUT ALSO WHAT THE PUBLIC
10:19:49AM THINKS WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PARK.
10:19:52AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO GET SOME OF
10:19:54AM THE IMPORTANT PARKS LIKE CURTIS HIXON WHICH IS A LARGER PARK
10:19:59AM AND DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORIES.
10:20:01AM HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING BACK TO US SO
10:20:04AM WE CAN TRANSMIT TO PLANNING COMMISSION?
10:20:07AM >>RANDY GOERS: WE COULD BRING BACK THE LIST TO YOU FAIRLY
10:20:10AM QUICKLY, WHAT WE THINK ARE SOME KEY PARKS.
10:20:13AM THE QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL US YOU AGREE WITH
10:20:16AM THEM SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON?
10:20:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT LIST SO WE CAN
10:20:22AM MOVE FORWARD.
10:20:25AM I'M DONE FOR RIGHT NOW.
10:20:26AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THEY ARE ALL
10:20:30AM IMPORTANT PARKS.
10:20:32AM THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT.
10:20:34AM EVERYTHING THAT'S IN PUBLIC SHOULD STAY PUBLIC.
10:20:36AM AND THE UNDERLYING -- THANK YOU FOR RUNNING WITH THAT.
10:20:40AM >> AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.
10:20:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ABSOLUTELY.
10:20:47AM WHEN YOU SAY IMPORTANT PARKS, IT'S VERY OBJECTIVE.
10:20:50AM AND THERE'S NO OBJECTIVE.
10:20:51AM ALL THE PARKS ARE PUBLIC.
10:20:53AM AND UNLESS WE GO THAT ROUTE, THAT COULD VERY WELL CHANGE.
10:20:59AM AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN.
10:21:01AM NOT WITHOUT IT BEING VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE IT.
10:21:03AM >>RANDY GOERS: YES.
10:21:06AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO WHATEVER WE HAVE NOW, THE PUBLIC PARK
10:21:09AM NEEDS TO STAY AS A PUBLIC PARK, AND THE UNDERLYING LAND USE
10:21:13AM NEEDS TO CORRESPOND TO THAT.
10:21:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND MRS. CAPIN, I THINK THAT HIS
10:21:19AM PRESENTATION INCLUDES ALL PUBLIC LAND THAT MAY BE DESIGNATED
10:21:23AM AND OTHER THINGS, NOT NECESSARILY JUST PARKS.
10:21:26AM IS THAT CORRECT?
10:21:26AM OR IS IT EVERYTHING?
10:21:30AM >>RANDY GOERS: YES.
10:21:32AM ALMOST ALL THE ASSETS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION, ALL
10:21:35AM DEPARTMENTS.
10:21:36AM THINGS THAT ARE MAINTAINED, THINGS THAT AT ONE TIME TO
10:21:40AM COMPLY WITH CONCURRENCY, THAT CONCURRENCY NO LONGER EXISTS.
10:21:44AM SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO GET INTO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PARKS.
10:21:49AM WE WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE HAVING TODAY ON A
10:21:51AM BROADER LEVEL.
10:21:52AM PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THAT PIECE OF LAND IS IMPORTANT TO
10:21:56AM ME, I THINK IT SHOULD BE DESIGNATED AS A PARK.
10:21:59AM AND STAFF DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A DECISION ONE WAY OR
10:22:03AM ANOTHER.
10:22:03AM WE ARE JUST BRINGING TO YOU THAT WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO
10:22:06AM BE A LARGER DEBATE IN SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE QUITE
10:22:09AM A BIT OF TIME.
10:22:10AM AND GO THROUGH OF HAVING 92 PLAN AMENDMENTS, WE WANT TO MAKE
10:22:15AM SURE WE COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL
10:22:17AM UNDERSTAND THAT 92 PLAN AMENDMENTS IS QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO
10:22:21AM CHANGE IT.
10:22:21AM WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE
10:22:24AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
10:22:25AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK TO GIVE US THOSE 92 LOCATIONS SO
10:22:30AM THAT WE CAN MAKE DETERMINATIONS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
10:22:33AM THEM.
10:22:33AM WHETHER WE DO IT AS A HOLISTIC -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN
10:22:37AM DO IT HOLISTICALLY, WE HAVE DONE LARGER CHANGES AND IT MAY
10:22:45AM BE POSSIBLE FOR US.
10:22:46AM YOU GAVE US THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WHICH IS ALL THE
10:22:49AM HEARINGS, ALL AT ONCE.
10:22:50AM IT MAY BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO IT AT ONE FELL SWOOP
10:22:54AM DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE.
10:22:56AM I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST STEP.
10:22:58AM WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THAT ARE NOT
10:23:00AM CURRENTLY DESIGNATED UNDER A LAND USE CATEGORY THAT WOULD
10:23:03AM CONSIDER IT A PARK.
10:23:04AM I THINK THAT'S OUR FIRST STEP.
10:23:06AM >> WE CAN HAVE THAT LIST TO YOU FAIRLY QUICKLY.
10:23:10AM THE LIST OF THE 92.
10:23:11AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD -- I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
10:23:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THIS PROCESS AND
10:23:20AM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ FOR PUSHING THIS ALONG.
10:23:22AM THERE'S AN OLD SAYING THAT IF YOU ARE A HAMMER EVERYTHING IS
10:23:24AM A NAIL.
10:23:24AM AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF -- THERE'S INDIVIDUALS AND
10:23:29AM MOVEMENTS, I GUESS IF YOU WILL, THAT SEE SOME OF OUR GREEN
10:23:31AM SPACES AS NAILS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE TO HEIGHT TEN
10:23:35AM SCRUTINY WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING THOSE GREEN SPACES AND
10:23:38AM PARKS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A CITY DOES.
10:23:41AM AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ENTITLED TO THOSE SPACES FOR PARKS
10:23:45AM AND FAMILY ENJOYMENT AND WE OUGHT TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT
10:23:48AM THAT.
10:23:49AM SO I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THIS PROCESS.
10:23:50AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR RUNNING WITH THAT.
10:23:58AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
10:24:01AM I HOPE IT DOESN'T RUN LIKE THE TREE ORDINANCE.
10:24:03AM (LAUGHTER)
10:24:04AM IF IT COMES BACK IN TWO YEARS I WILL BE AT THE BEACH.
10:24:08AM (LAUGHTER)
10:24:09AM >> I HAVE A FEELING YOU WILL BE AT THE BEACH A LOT SOONER
10:24:12AM THAN THREE YEARS.
10:24:13AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DO YOU THINK MARCH 7th IS A GOOD TIME
10:24:16AM FRAME TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH THAT OR SOONER?
10:24:21AM >>RANDY GOERS: A LIST OF THE DEDICATED PARKS WHICH OF THAT
10:24:26AM 92 LIST, RIGHT ARE?
10:24:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES, THAT ARE ALREADY DESIGNATED AS PARKS
10:24:32AM BUT NOT UNDER THE UNDERLYING LAND USE.
10:24:35AM MARCH 7th, IS THAT A GOOD TIME FRAME FOR YOU?
10:24:37AM >> YES.
10:24:38AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE
10:24:41AM PARKS DEPARTMENT COME BACK AND LAND DEVELOPMENT ABOUT THE 92
10:24:45AM PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS PARKS, BUT LAND
10:24:50AM USE DOES NOT MATCH UP.
10:24:52AM COME BACK UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON THE 7th.
10:24:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:24:57AM SECOND BY -- [OFF MICROPHONE] ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:04AM OPPOSED?
10:25:13AM COME TALK TO ME.
10:25:14AM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
10:25:15AM YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BUT I HOPE YOU
10:25:19AM CAN GET SOME INFORMATION FOR ME.
10:25:21AM >> OKAY.
10:25:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET, CITY BUDGET, IT'S
10:25:26AM SUPPOSED TO START THE RENOVATION OF WILLIAM PARK BACK IN
10:25:29AM JUNE, JULY.
10:25:30AM >> RIGHT.
10:25:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THEY HAVEN'T STARTED.
10:25:34AM AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN NO UPDATES ON WHEN IT'S GOING TO
10:25:37AM HAPPEN.
10:25:38AM BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I WENT OUT THERE THIS PAST WEEKEND, AND
10:25:47AM IT'S A DANGER OUT THERE.
10:25:49AM BOARDS ARE ALL LOOSE.
10:25:51AM THE FACILITY IS JUST NOT IN GOOD ORDER.
10:25:55AM AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO RENOVATE.
10:25:59AM AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO STOP A KID FROM PLAYING ON ONE OF
10:26:04AM THE TABLES OUT THERE US WHAT THE BOARDS WAS ALL LOOSE AND
10:26:09AM CRACKED.
10:26:12AM SO I KNOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO START IN JUNE OR JULY OF LAST
10:26:18AM YEAR.
10:26:20AM HAVEN'T STARTED THE PROCESS YET.
10:26:24AM WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE STARTING?
10:26:25AM BECAUSE I THOUGHT FOR SURE THE MAYOR PROMISED ME IT WAS
10:26:31AM GOING TO BE DONE BEFORE I LEFT COUNCIL.
10:26:33AM >> I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT THE PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION
10:26:36AM ADMINISTRATION, IS WORKING WITH THAT PROJECT.
10:26:38AM I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO LOOKING AT DATES FOR
10:26:45AM POTENTIAL GROUNDBREAKING FOR THAT.
10:26:49AM SO I BELIEVE THAT IT HAS ALREADY BEEN AWARDED, BUT THERE
10:26:54AM WILL BE SOME DETAILS RELATED TO THAT.
10:26:56AM SO WE SHOULD BE AT THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
10:26:58AM AS FAR AS YOUR CONCERNS, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING LOOSE OVER
10:27:01AM THERE TODAY.
10:27:02AM WE WILL BE OVER THERE TODAY AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT IN THE
10:27:05AM MEANTIME.
10:27:06AM BUT I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT PROJECT, I UNDERSTAND
10:27:08AM THERE HAVE BEEN DELAYS WITH IT, AND WE CAN CHECK WITH
10:27:11AM CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION AND GET MORE SPECIFICS ON THE
10:27:15AM DATE WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:27:16AM BUT I THINK IT VERY CLOSE.
10:27:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES,.
10:27:24AM >> I WILL HAVE THAT LOOKED AT TODAY 69 AND CONSTRUCTION
10:27:27AM SERVICES STAFF, WE NEED A GROUNDBREAKING BEFORE MAY 1st.
10:27:31AM >> I WILL MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
10:27:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I AM NOT COMING BACK AFTER MAY 1st.
10:27:40AM LET'S HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING FIRST.
10:27:42AM WE WILL BE ALMOST A YEAR BEHIND.
10:27:44AM I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, SIR.
10:27:46AM >> UNDERSTOOD.
10:27:47AM IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT RELATED BACK TO THE PARK
10:27:49AM ISSUE AND I UNDERSTAND THE 92 ARE COME BACK BEFORE YOU ON
10:27:54AM MARCH 7.
10:27:57AM THERE ARE MANY PARCELS THAT ARE HERE WITHIN THE CITY THAT
10:28:03AM THE PEOPLE LOVE THEIR PARKS HERE, AND THEY ARE VERY
10:28:07AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THOSE, AND I LOVE THAT WITHIN PARKS AND
10:28:10AM RECREATION.
10:28:11AM BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AREAS WHERE ARE WE HAVE, I'LL
10:28:14AM SAY, A PORK CHOP OF A ROADWAY WHERE THERE'S AN ISLAND IN THE
10:28:18AM MIDDLE THAT'S GRASS, AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE MADE THAT INTO A
10:28:23AM GATHERING SITE.
10:28:25AM SO WE HAVE LOCATIONS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
10:28:29AM SO ULTIMATELY ON SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THE DECISIONS ARE
10:28:32AM GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE OF WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AS PARK OR
10:28:36AM POSSIBLY GREEN SPACE OR OTHER DETERMINATIONS AS WELL.
10:28:39AM BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AS WELL.
10:28:42AM I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE YOU AWARE.
10:28:44AM THERE ARE LARGER PARKS BUT THERE ARE SOME SMALL AND SOME
10:28:49AM ALMOST MIGRATED TO THAT COMMUNITY USE.
10:28:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO HOW DO YOU ALL DESIGNATE THOSE LITTLE
10:28:57AM PORK CHOPS?
10:28:58AM >> WELL, SOME OF THOSE AREN'T CONSIDERED FROM OUR
10:29:01AM PERSPECTIVE AS PARKS.
10:29:02AM BUT SIMPLY IN THE COMMUNITY WE ARE, AND WE WORKED WITH THE
10:29:04AM COMMUNITY WHEN THEY WANT TO HAVE EVENTS.
10:29:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:29:09AM THEY ARE RIGHT-OF-WAY?
10:29:10AM IS THAT WHAT --
10:29:11AM >> THEY COULD BE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:29:13AM IT COULD BE JUST OPEN SPACE WITHIN IF COMMUNITY AND NOT
10:29:16AM DEEMED AS PARK LAND.
10:29:17AM THAT'S A BIT OF THE TASK WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN
10:29:20AM LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE SITES.
10:29:22AM AND SOME COULD BE VERY SMALL SLIVERS TO LARGER PARCELS.
10:29:25AM BUT --
10:29:27AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT TO WHAT WE ARE
10:29:29AM DISCUSSING? THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
10:29:30AM >> I AM JUST SAYING AS YOU LOOK AT THIS ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD,
10:29:34AM WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE 92 AT THIS POINT BUT THERE IS SOME
10:29:37AM COMPLEXITY THAT THERE IS TIME INVOLVED TO LOW IN TO
10:29:40AM DETERMINE WHAT YOUR BOUNDARIES ARE, YOUR CONSIDERATIONS FOR
10:29:44AM THOSE OF BEING TRULY PARK SPACE, OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER
10:29:47AM TERMINOLOGY FOR OPEN SPACE.
10:29:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND THE ASSOCIATED DESIGNATED PARKS?
10:29:53AM >> WE HAVE SOME LOCATIONS WHERE IT IS A DESIGNATED PARK BUT
10:29:57AM THE COMMUNITY SEES IT AS A GATHERING PLACE.
10:29:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF HE HAD THE LIST OF
10:30:04AM THESE 92 THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE DESIGNATION.
10:30:06AM THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THAT LIST IS.
10:30:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXACTLY.
10:30:12AM THANK YOU.
10:30:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM 61.
10:30:14AM >>SONYA LITTLE: REVENUE AND FINANCE.
10:30:27AM IN RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE
10:30:32AM BONDING PROCESS FOR OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, I WOULD LIKE TO
10:30:36AM PROVIDE YOU WITH A BIT OF INFORMATION AND WELCOME ANY
10:30:38AM QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY.
10:30:41AM FIRST OF ALL, AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA
10:30:46AM CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE PROCESS BEGINS WITH THE DEPARTMENTS
10:30:52AM WHO IDENTIFY THE PROJECT NEEDS.
10:30:55AM ONCE THE PROJECT NEEDS ARE DEFINED, INCLUDING ANY
10:30:58AM ENGINEERING AND ANY ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, IT'S THEN
10:31:05AM MOVED ON TO REVENUE AND FINANCE TO START DEVELOPING A
10:31:08AM FUNDING PLAN.
10:31:09AM SO WITH THAT FUNDING PLAN, IT'S MOVED FORWARD AS A PART OF
10:31:14AM THE BUDGET PROCESS.
10:31:17AM SO LAST YEAR, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE CURRENT ANNUAL
10:31:21AM BUDGET, WHICH IS FY 19 ANNUAL BUDGET.
10:31:25AM WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT PROCESS.
10:31:27AM AND IF YOU WILL RECALL, YOU NOT ONLY ADOPTED AN PAINTING
10:31:30AM BUDGET BUT YOU ALSO ADOPTED A CAPITAL BUDGET.
10:31:32AM THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
10:31:35AM AND THEN ANNUALLY, COUNCIL ADOPTS THE CURRENT OR UPCOMING
10:31:42AM BUDGET YEAR.
10:31:42AM SO EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND ADOPT THE CAPITAL
10:31:45AM PLAN.
10:31:49AM IF A PROJECT MATERIAL ARISES AFTER ADOPTION OF THE ANNUAL
10:31:52AM BUDGET, STAFF HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO GET THE BUDGET
10:31:56AM AMENDED.
10:31:57AM WHEN STAFF COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, BY THE TIME IT COMES
10:32:01AM BEFORE YOU, ALL THE MODELING, THE FINANCIAL MODELING WILL
10:32:04AM HAVE BEEN DONE.
10:32:06AM WE WILL HAVE ENGAGED CONSULTANTS TO ASSIST THAT THE CITY
10:32:12AM IS--
10:32:15AM >> MADAM CHAIR, YOU ARE GIVING US THE EXPLANATION ON HOW
10:32:18AM PROJECTS ARE FUNDED NOW?
10:32:20AM OKAY.
10:32:22AM THE QUESTION WAS, NOW WHEN NEW DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
10:32:25AM AVAILABLE, THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW WE
10:32:28AM HAVE TO SPEND IT, AND A TIME FRAME OF WHEN WE HAVE TO SPEND
10:32:32AM IT, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BOND OUT FOR PROJECTS THAT
10:32:37AM MIGHT BE LONG-TERM PROJECTS, 30 YEARS OR MORE.
10:32:40AM AND SO MY QUESTION WAS, IN THAT PROCESS -- AND I THINK WE
10:32:45AM TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIVATE REPLY WHICH IS, WHAT IS THE RULE
10:32:48AM OF THUMB -- BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS HYPOTHETICALLY, I
10:32:52AM KNOW THAT -- THE RULE OF THUMB CONCERNING A CERTAIN AMOUNT
10:32:55AM OF DOLLARS THAT GOING TO BE COMING IN, THE DIFFERENCE
10:32:57AM BETWEEN CREATING AN ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THOSE PARTICULAR
10:33:01AM USES, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPECIFIC AS PART OF THE REFERENDUM,
10:33:05AM AND THINGS THAT WE CAN SPEND IT FOR.
10:33:08AM IF THAT'S A GOOD PLAN TO GO FORWARD.
10:33:11AM SECONDLY, HOW MUCH MONEY MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, USING THE BEST
10:33:16AM PRACTICES THAT ARE NECESSARY IN TERMS OF BONDING, WHAT ARE
10:33:21AM THE POTENTIAL AMOUNTS OF DOLLARS WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE,
10:33:24AM AGAIN IN A HYPOTHETICAL.
10:33:27AM WE KNOW HYPOTHETICALLY OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE RECEIVING WHICH
10:33:29AM IS ABOUT 33 OR $34 MILLION.
10:33:32AM HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS A BONDING PLAN FOR LARGER
10:33:36AM PROJECTS?
10:33:37AM AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:33:40AM PROJECT ON A FIVE YEAR BASIS BUT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC.
10:33:44AM WE HAVE TO PRESENT A PLAN TO THE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT
10:33:47AM COMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE BEFORE
10:33:51AM A TIME FRAME AND THEN START SPENDING AFTER THAT.
10:33:54AM SO IT ALL COMES HAND IN GLOVE WITH IT.
10:33:58AM BUT AS A CFO AND AS A PROFESSIONAL THAT DOES THIS, HOW DOES
10:34:02AM THAT PROCESS WORK WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BOND PROJECTS?
10:34:07AM BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PIECES THAT ARE THERE,
10:34:13AM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO SPEND AND WE ARE GOING
10:34:15AM TO HAVE REQUESTS FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS ON WHAT THEY WANT TO
10:34:18AM SPEND ON, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT AS TO WHAT THOSE
10:34:20AM ARE.
10:34:21AM SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, BUT
10:34:25AM IN TERMS OF HOW YOU CREATE THAT BOND FUND, HOW DO YOU DO
10:34:29AM THAT?
10:34:29AM >>SONYA LITTLE: RIGHT.
10:34:30AM YES, SIR.
10:34:30AM THE PROCESS IS THE SAME.
10:34:33AM WE HAVE MANY RESTRICTIVE REVENUES ALREADY.
10:34:35AM WE HAVE GAS TAX REVENUES.
10:34:37AM WE HAVE C.I.T.
10:34:38AM SO THAT PROCESS IS STILL THE SAME, WHEREAS WE HAVE TO
10:34:43AM IDENTIFY THE INCOMING REVENUES, THE PROJECTED INCOMING
10:34:46AM REVENUES AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, IN THE HYPOTHETICAL
10:34:52AM CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE 33 TO $34 MILLION, AND
10:34:57AM MATCH THAT WITH WHAT THE DEPARTMENT SUBMITS AS THE PRIORITY
10:35:01AM OF PROJECTS OVER ONE TO FIVE, MAYBE 10 OR 20-YEAR PERIOD.
10:35:07AM TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE REVENUES, AS THEY ARE PROJECTED TO
10:35:11AM COME IN, AND MATCHING THAT AGAINST WHAT IS DEEMED TO BE THE
10:35:15AM OPERATOR OF PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED OVER -- LET'S USE THE
10:35:20AM 5-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
10:35:22AM THEN IT'S DETERMINED BY DOING FINANCIAL ANALYSIS BOTH
10:35:25AM IN-HOUSE AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUR OUTSIDE FINANCIAL
10:35:28AM CONSULTANTS TO DETERMINE WHAT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST.
10:35:32AM NOW, WE CAN HAVE PAY-GO WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE CASH AND PAY
10:35:38AM FOR PROJECTS.
10:35:38AM OR THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT CASH
10:35:42AM COMING IN TO MEET THE CONSTRUCTION NEEDS OF THE PROJECT.
10:35:46AM THEN WE CONSIDER EITHER BONDING, ATTAINING A SHORT-TERM
10:35:51AM LOAN, A LONG-TERM LOAN, A LINE OF CREDIT.
10:35:54AM VARIOUS VEHICLES THAT WE CAN USE TO FUND THE LARGER,
10:35:58AM LONGER-TERM PROJECTS.
10:35:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO THE QUESTION.
10:36:02AM LET'S BACK UP BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT ME DOWN TO AT EYE LEVEL.
10:36:06AM LET GET IT UP TO ABOUT 20 FOO THOUSAND FEET IN TERMS OF --
10:36:12AM 20,000 FEET.
10:36:13AM AS A RULE OF THUMB YOU ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING 33 OR $34
10:36:17AM MILLION.
10:36:17AM WHAT KIND OF BOND FUND CAN BE CREATED WITH THAT AMOUNT OF
10:36:20AM MONEY USING ALL THE CRITERIA THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO -- IF
10:36:25AM YOU ARE SAYING 30 MILLION A YEAR, WAIT TO 150 MILLION, 200
10:36:31AM MILLION, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.
10:36:32AM THERE MUST BE SOME TYPE OF FORMULA OR RULE OF THUMB IN TERMS
10:36:35AM OF BUILDING THE FUND LIKE THAT.
10:36:37AM NOT ALL OF IT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO REPAYING ANY BOND THAT
10:36:41AM MIGHT BE ISSUED BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
10:36:43AM RESERVE, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WILL RESERVE FOR
10:36:47AM PAY-GO, DEPENDING ON WHO THE NEXT MAYOR IS.
10:36:52AM SO THAT ASPECT OF WHAT YOU USUALLY DO FOR SOMETHING LIKE
10:36:54AM THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT OTHER ENTERPRISE FUND.
10:36:57AM SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IT A PROPER WAY OF SETTING UP FOR THIS
10:37:03AM TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM TO HAVE AN ENTERPRISE FUND
10:37:07AM AVAILABLE TO US AS OPPOSED TO CREATING THE RECOMMENDATIONS
10:37:15AM OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN SPENDING DOLLARS?
10:37:17AM BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE ARE SPECIFICS
10:37:20AM ON WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON.
10:37:22AM SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
10:37:26AM FUNDED WITH OTHER SOURCES, AND THIS IS A WAY TO FUND SOME OF
10:37:33AM THOSE PROJECTS NOW, AND TO EXPAND IT TO DO IT FOR THE
10:37:38AM FUTURE.
10:37:38AM SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, PERIOD.
10:37:41AM OKAY?
10:37:42AM REGARDLESS OF WHAT TRANSPORTATION, ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE
10:37:46AM GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY HERE IS WHAT WE NEED AND HERE IS
10:37:49AM THE BACKLOG.
10:37:50AM WHAT DO WE HAVE TO SPEND?
10:37:51AM AND THAT'S MY QUESTION.
10:37:52AM WHAT DO WE HAVE TO SPEND IF WE START RECEIVING THAT MONEY?
10:37:55AM WE HAVE A BOND FUND THAT IS CREATED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
10:37:58AM >>SONYA LITTLE: SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY,
10:38:04AM THE PROCESS IS AS WE DO TODAY WITH OUR OTHER FUND.
10:38:07AM THE ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR THE SOURCE OF REVENUES COMING
10:38:11AM IN DICTATES THAT IN A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION THAT WE HAVE A
10:38:19AM SUBROGATED FUND.
10:38:21AM AND IN THE CASE OF OUR OTHER FUNDS, THEY ARE SEGREGATED AND
10:38:26AM CAN BE USED FOR ONLY THE PURPOSES IDENTIFIED IN THE ENABLING
10:38:30AM LEGISLATION.
10:38:31AM NOW, THAT FUND IS MATCHED WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN,
10:38:39AM AND ONCE IT'S DETERMINED -- AND I WILL GO DOWN WHAT I
10:38:41AM BELIEVE YOU WERE ASKING FOR AS FAR AS HOW THE BONDS WOULD
10:38:44AM WORK -- ONCE IT'S DETERMINED THAT THE CITY WILL ISSUE BONDS
10:38:48AM TO FUND ONE OR MORE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THEN WE HAVE TO
10:38:52AM ESTABLISH OTHER FUNDS THAT FURTHER SEGREGATE THOSE MONEYS
10:38:58AM COMING IN.
10:38:59AM AND THOSE FUND WOULD INCLUDE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT
10:39:04AM DEBT SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, THE ANNUAL PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST
10:39:08AM PAYMENT.
10:39:09AM IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ANY RESERVE REQUIREMENTS, AND ANY RATE
10:39:14AM COVENANTS OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT.
10:39:16AM ALL OF THAT WOULD BE DRIVEN BY THE CREDIT.
10:39:19AM SO AS WE START TO FORMULATE ANY TYPE OF BOND PROGRAM FOR A
10:39:23AM HYPOTHETICAL PROGRAM, AS WE START TO FORMULATE THAT PROGRAM,
10:39:28AM IT WILL BE BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE
10:39:31AM RATING AGENCIES, BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST
10:39:34AM POSSIBLE RATING FOR THAT PARTICULAR CREDIT, SO THAT IT
10:39:38AM DRIVES DOWN THE CITY'S COSTS OF FUNDING.
10:39:42AM AND BY DOING THAT WE PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO, FOR
10:39:45AM EXAMPLE, THE RESERVES.
10:39:48AM WILL THEY REQUIRE US TO HAVE 30 DAYS OF OUR OPERATING AND
10:39:52AM MAINTENANCE?
10:39:53AM WILL THEY REQUIRE US TO HAVE 60 DAYS SET ASIDE IN THE
10:39:57AM PROGRAM?
10:39:59AM ALL OF THOSE WILL BE -- AS WE PRESENT THE PROGRAM TO THE
10:40:03AM RATING AGENCIES TO DICTATE HOW WE ACTUALLY STRUCTURE IT.
10:40:07AM BECAUSE FOR A NEW CREDIT, THOSE THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN
10:40:10AM IDENTIFIED YET.
10:40:13AM FOR OUR EXISTING CREDIT, WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN
10:40:16AM ORDER TO ACHIEVE SPECIFIC RATINGS.
10:40:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO I GO BACK TO WHAT THE HYPOTHETICAL IS,
10:40:23AM WHICH IS YOU ARE RECEIVING FUND.
10:40:25AM AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE SO MANY OF THESE ALL OVER THE
10:40:28AM PLACE, AND TO PRIVATE PRACTICE AND ALSO HERE, YOU ARE
10:40:33AM RECEIVING $34 MILLION A YEAR.
10:40:35AM WHAT KIND OF FUND DOES THAT EQUATE TO TYPICALLY?
10:40:40AM I AM NOT LOOKING AT THE RATES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:40:42AM HOW MUCH MONEY IS A POTENTIAL THAT'S AVAILABLE THERE FOR A
10:40:46AM 30-YEAR BOND FUND, LET SAY?
10:40:48AM BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE LIFE OF THAT PARTICULAR TAX IS.
10:40:50AM >>SONYA LITTLE: I'M A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT TO SAY THAT,
10:40:55AM COUNCILMAN, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN -- WE HAVEN'T LANDED ON
10:40:57AM THE PROPOSED CAPITAL PLAN SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WILL BE
10:41:01AM GRANT FUNDING.
10:41:02AM WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WILL BE CASH FUNDED.
10:41:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS IS BASED ON YOUR
10:41:07AM EXPERTISE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF TRYING TO DO
10:41:10AM SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH IS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BOND OUT
10:41:12AM ALL 34 MILLION PER YEAR, OKAY.
10:41:15AM YOU ARE GOING TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS.
10:41:18AM THERE'S GOING TO BE LONGER-TERM PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING
10:41:21AM TO HAVE TO FUND, OKAY.
10:41:23AM BY VIRTUE OF THE WAY THAT THE LEGISLATION IS WRITTEN, IT'S
10:41:26AM NOT LIKE WE CAN DO EVERYTHING ON THE PAY-GO NECESSARILY
10:41:29AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME LONG-TERM GOALS THAT ARE PART OF THE
10:41:33AM REFERENDUM.
10:41:34AM IF YOU FOLLOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:41:36AM AND I KNOW YOU HAVE READ IT AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
10:41:38AM BUT THERE IS A TIME FRAME PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE
10:41:41AM DO HAVE TO PRESENT NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS, BUT WE ARE GOING
10:41:45AM TO HAVE TO KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE.
10:41:47AM SO JUST ON A HYPOTHETICAL, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD HYPOTHETICAL
10:41:50AM ONLY, IF YOU SAID WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT AWAY 20 MILLION A
10:41:54AM YEAR TO COME UP WITH A BOND FUND TAX, THAT'S WHAT I AM
10:42:00AM TALKING ABOUT. JUST AS A RULE OF THUMB.
10:42:02AM IT HYPOTHETICAL REMEMBER AND IT'S ONLY US TWO TALKING.
10:42:06AM DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING.
10:42:09AM NOBODY IS GOING TO HEAR WHAT WE ARE SAYING.
10:42:11AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THE REASON I HESITATE IS BECAUSE THE ONLY
10:42:14AM THING I CAN GIVE YOU IS ASSUME WE WOULD BOND OUT $34 MILLION
10:42:19AM ANNUALLY.
10:42:19AM WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
10:42:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
10:42:22AM SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT WITH A $20 MILLION AMOUNT --
10:42:25AM AND WE'LL TAKE UP THE OTHER 14 MILLION AND LET'S SAY 20
10:42:29AM MILLION FOR BONDING PURPOSES ONLY.
10:42:31AM WOULD THAT AMOUNT EQUAL TO SOMEWHERE IN 200 MILLION RANGE,
10:42:37AM 300 MILLION RANGE, 400 MILLION?
10:42:41AM WHAT WOULD THAT BE?
10:42:47AM I KNEW YOU BROUGHT YOUR CALCULATOR.
10:42:52AM >>SONYA LITTLE: I LIVE WITH IT.
10:42:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON THAT I CAN ASK THIS
10:42:56AM QUESTION TO AND ACTUALLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
10:42:58AM >> IN A HYPOTHETICAL CASE ASSUMING 20 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS,
10:43:20AM ASSUME A 5% INTEREST RATE, THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE JUST TO
10:43:23AM PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU WOULD BE ROUGHLY $1.3 MILLION.
10:43:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
10:43:30AM NOW, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING.
10:43:33AM THE DEBT SERVICE IS FINE.
10:43:34AM I'M GLAD YOU TOLD US.
10:43:35AM BUT HOW MUCH OF A FUND WOULD YOU CREATE IN TERMS OF BONDS?
10:43:38AM MEANING WOULD IT EQUATE TO A $200 MILLION FUND?
10:43:44AM A $150 MILLION FUND?
10:43:46AM DO YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING?
10:43:48AM >>SONYA LITTLE: 100% OF THE REVENUES WOULD GO INTO THE
10:43:51AM HYPOTHETICAL FUND.
10:43:54AM THOSE REVENUES WOULD BE SPENT TO PAY FOR THE CAPITAL
10:43:59AM PROJECTS.
10:44:01AM THOSE REVENUES WOULD THEN BE SPENT TO PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE.
10:44:04AM THE AMOUNT GOING INTO THAT BOND FUND WOULD DEPEND ON HOW
10:44:07AM MUCH DEBT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING TO COVER TYPICALLY ONE-SIXTH
10:44:12AM EVERY MONTH OF THE INTEREST PAYMENT WOULD GO INTO A DEBT
10:44:15AM SERVICE FUND, ONE TWELFTH OF THE OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL
10:44:21AM PAYMENT COMING DUE IN THAT YEAR WOULD GO INTO THE DEBT
10:44:23AM SERVICE FUND.
10:44:24AM WE WOULD EITHER FUND UP FRONT A RESERVE FOR THE DEBT SERVICE
10:44:30AM FUND AT THE TIME OF THE ISSUANCE.
10:44:32AM SO TYPICALLY THAT FUND IS ALREADY TAKEN TAKING CARE OF THE
10:44:35AM RESERVE.
10:44:36AM THE ONLY TIME IT WOULD CHANGE HEAVEN FORBID YOU HAVE TO HIT
10:44:40AM TO THE PAY THE DEBT SERVICE BUT THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF UP
10:44:43AM FRONT.
10:44:43AM THAT IS TYPICALLY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT YOU
10:44:46AM ISSUE.
10:44:47AM SO IN OF THIS CASE, A $20 MILLION DEAL, IT MAY BE 10%.
10:44:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: 10% OF WHAT?
10:45:00AM >> OF THE 20 MILLION, OUTSTANDING DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT.
10:45:04AM IT'S 10% OF THE KNACKS ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE IN SOME CASES.
10:45:09AM IT'S TYPICALLY 20% OR AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO MAXIMUM ANNUAL DEBT
10:45:13AM SERVICE.
10:45:14AM AND IN THIS CASE I BELIEVE THE FIGURE I GAVE YOU WAS
10:45:16AM $1.3 MILLION.
10:45:17AM SO $1.3 MILLION, IT MAY HAVE TO BE SET ASIDE.
10:45:23AM TYPICALLY FOR A HYPOTHETICAL NEW CREDIT RATING AGENCIES WANT
10:45:28AM TO SEE THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU BUILDING A PROJECT, BUT YOU CAN
10:45:31AM MAINTAIN IT OVER TIME.
10:45:34AM SO THEY MAY REQUIRE IN ORDER TO GET THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF A
10:45:37AM RATING WHATEVER -- WHATEVER WE DEEM TO BE THAT AMOUNT WE MAY
10:45:49AM HAVE TO PUT MONEY EH SIDE IN THAT FUND AS WELL.
10:45:53AM THOSE ARE THE MAJOR FUND, COUNCILMAN, IN THE CASE OF A BOND
10:45:55AM ISSUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH AFTER THE
10:45:58AM BONDS ARE ISSUED.
10:45:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION,
10:46:01AM WHICH IS FINE.
10:46:02AM YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE LOOKING AT 20
10:46:05AM MILLION TIMES 30 YEARS, OKAY, TELL ME IF I AM WRONG ABOUT
10:46:10AM THE NUMBER BECAUSE YOU ARE BETTER AT MATH THAN I AM, THAT'S
10:46:12AM ABOUT $600 MILLION.
10:46:14AM IS THAT CORRECT?
10:46:15AM >>SONYA LITTLE: YES.
10:46:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OF THAT $600 MILLION, PROBABLY 5%, YOU KNOW,
10:46:22AM WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT WOULD BE DEBT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE
10:46:25AM WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND?
10:46:27AM SO THAT'S WHAT I AM GETTING AT, OKAY?
10:46:29AM WE HAVE $600 MILLION.
10:46:31AM CERTAIN AMOUNT IS GOING TO GO TO DEBT.
10:46:33AM YOU HAVE EXPLAINED IT IN VERY, VERY GOOD DETAIL AND I'M SURE
10:46:36AM THAT PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE REALLY UNDERSTANDING BOND
10:46:40AM FINANCING NOW A LOT MORE THAN I AM.
10:46:42AM WHAT WOULD THAT FUND LOOK LIKE?
10:46:44AM WOULD IT BE $300 MILLION, HALF OF THAT AMOUNT, OR JUST AS A
10:46:47AM RULE OF THUMB HYPOTHETICALLY?
10:46:49AM >>SONYA LITTLE: MAY I ASK, ARE YOU ASKING HOW MUCH WE PAY
10:46:52AM OVER TIME?
10:46:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO.
10:46:54AM I AM ASKING WHAT THE TOTAL FUND WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN ORDER
10:46:57AM FOR US TO DO ANY KIND OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.
10:47:00AM IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION.
10:47:00AM YOU HAVE DONE THE MATH.
10:47:01AM YOU ARE HALFWAY THERE.
10:47:02AM I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
10:47:06AM IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL.
10:47:07AM >>SONYA LITTLE: I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR HYPOTHETICAL
10:47:09AM QUESTION.
10:47:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
10:47:11AM WELL, LISTEN, WE ARE ALL OUT THERE AND PEOPLE ARE ASKING US
10:47:14AM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE
10:47:16AM WAY THAT WE DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY AND IN THE COUNTY AND
10:47:21AM THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING
10:47:24AM IN.
10:47:24AM THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO DO SOME LONG-TERM PROJECTS.
10:47:28AM SO LET'S SAY WE CREATE A FUND USE $20 MILLION.
10:47:32AM HOW MUCH WOULD THAT FUND BE AVAILABLE FOR CAPITAL PROJECT?
10:47:35AM NOT THE DEBT SERVICE AND NOT EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:47:37AM WOULD IT BE ABOUT $300 MILLION?
10:47:43AM WELL, LET ME, IF I COULD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE
10:47:46AM UNDERSTANDS WHAT I AM ASKING.
10:47:47AM AS A HYPOTHETICAL -- AND THIS IS A MATH PROBLEM.
10:47:50AM IT IS NOT A PROBLEM ABOUT ALL THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT
10:47:53AM MIGHT BE THERE.
10:47:53AM IT'S A MATH PROBLEM.
10:47:54AM HOW MUCH WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO PAY FOR A LONG-TERM
10:48:00AM PROJECT?
10:48:00AM LET'S SAY WE HAD A FUND THAT WAS BRINGING IT 20 MILLION.
10:48:04AM IT'S BONDED OUT.
10:48:05AM HOW MUCH WOULD THAT CREATE?
10:48:07AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THE ANSWER IS 20 MILLION.
10:48:10AM IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BOND FUND -- I AM NOT CERTAIN,
10:48:13AM BUT I THINK THE ANSWER THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD
10:48:16AM BE--
10:48:17AM >> NO, NO.
10:48:18AM BUT THAT'S OKAY.
10:48:19AM MR. MIRANDA WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:48:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY MONEY DOUBLES EVERY
10:48:23AM SO MANY YEARS.
10:48:24AM DEPENDING ON THE INTEREST RATE.
10:48:26AM SO WHETHER IT'S A BOND.
10:48:27AM WHETHER IT'S A HOUSE THAT YOU ARE FINANCING, IT BASICALLY
10:48:30AM THE SAME WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
10:48:31AM SO WHAT I AM HEARING IS 20 MILLION FOR 30 YEARS, OF THAT 600
10:48:38AM MILLION WHAT IS REALLY LEFT OF THE ACTUAL PROJECT VERSUS THE
10:48:41AM INTEREST?
10:48:42AM THAT'S WHAT I THINK HE'S SAYING.
10:48:43AM >>SONYA LITTLE: OKAY.
10:48:44AM THAT WAS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A $20
10:48:49AM MILLION BOND ISSUE.
10:48:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, NO.
10:48:51AM 20 MILLION PER YEAR COMING IN.
10:48:52AM >>SONYA LITTLE: OKAY.
10:48:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY, BOY, THOSE
10:48:58AM NUMBERS WENT SMALLER AND SMALLER.
10:48:59AM >>SONYA LITTLE: YES.
10:49:01AM A 20 MILLION HYPOTHETICAL BOND ISSUE.
10:49:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE 600 MILLION WHAT'S LEFT OF THE
10:49:08AM ACTUAL PROJECT.
10:49:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
10:49:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD SAY ABOUT 320.
10:49:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS GETTING TO THAT SAME SPOT.
10:49:16AM MR. MIRANDA, I ALWAYS KNOW THE PERSON WHO KNOWS MORE MATH
10:49:20AM THAN ME FIGURES IT OUT.
10:49:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW ANY MATH.
10:49:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK SHE UNDERSTANDS IT A LITTLE BETTER
10:49:27AM LITTLE ALSO NOW I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
10:49:28AM OVER 20 YEARS IF WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE $20 MILLION PER
10:49:31AM YEAR OVER 30 YEARS, ACTUALLY, I ASSUMED A RATE OF 5%.
10:49:38AM SO OVER THAT TIME, THE GENERATION WOULD BE 1.4 MILLION --
10:49:48AM 1.4 BILLION.
10:49:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
10:49:51AM >>SONYA LITTLE: BUT THAT TOTAL AMOUNT, NOW I THINK WHAT YOU
10:49:54AM WERE ASKING FOR, HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IF WE
10:49:58AM ASSUME A 1.5 TIMES COVERAGE FACTOR, THAT WOULD TAKE IT TO
10:50:07AM 940 MILLION OR SO OVER THE 30-YEAR PERIOD.
10:50:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CORRECT.
10:50:12AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
10:50:14AM AND OF THAT THE 940 MILLION, THAT INCLUDES THE DEBT SERVICE
10:50:17AM AS PART OF IT OR THE DEBT SERVICE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
10:50:19AM THE 1.4 BILLION AND THE 940 MILLION?
10:50:23AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THAT INCLUDES THE DEBT SERVICE SO AFTER YOU
10:50:25AM PAY FOR THE PROJECT, THE DEBT SERVICE, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO
10:50:31AM FILL YOUR BUCKETS AS WELL.
10:50:34AM THAT WOULD BE AFTER THE 1.5 TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE IN
10:50:39AM THE BANK.
10:50:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SURE.
10:50:42AM >>SONYA LITTLE: SO AFTER YOU FILL ALL YOUR PAYMENTS.
10:50:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO AFTER EVERYTHING IT'S STILL 940 THAT
10:50:47AM WOULD BE -- THAT'S THE WHOLE FUND.
10:50:52AM GOT IT.
10:50:52AM GOT IT.
10:50:53AM ALL RIGHT.
10:50:54AM THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING.
10:50:55AM THANKS SO MUCH.
10:50:56AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:50:57AM >>SONYA LITTLE: SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
10:50:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S OKAY, BELIEVE ME.
10:51:00AM IT'S HARD WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS NO HYPOTHETICAL
10:51:03AM FASHION, TOO.
10:51:04AM THANK YOU.
10:51:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WILL THE CITY BE ALLOWED TO GENERATE
10:51:09AM INTEREST OFF THE MONEY?
10:51:11AM >>SONYA LITTLE: DEFINITELY.
10:51:12AM SO WHEN THE MONEY COMES IN, MR. CHAIRMAN MR. CHAIRMAN, IT
10:51:15AM GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE REVENUE FUND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND
10:51:17AM IT GENERATES MONEYS BASED ON THE CITY'S INVESTMENT POLICY.
10:51:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF THE
10:51:24AM ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE?
10:51:26AM I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE A 15-MEMBER BOARD BUT WHO IS GOING
10:51:30AM TO MANAGE ALL OF THIS?
10:51:32AM THE CEO?
10:51:33AM ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO MANAGE ALL OF THIS?
10:51:42AM FOR ALL THE FUNDING AND PROTOCOLS THAT TAKE PLACE.
10:51:45AM >>SONYA LITTLE: YOU MEAN INCOMING ONCE IT GET TO THE CITY?
10:51:51AM >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY.
10:51:52AM THE WAY THINGS ARE STRUCTURED NOW, AND AGAIN WE ARE TALKING
10:51:54AM ABOUT THE -- THE WAY THINGS ARE EXTRAORDINARY NOW THAT BOARD
10:51:58AM THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE OF IS REALLY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
10:52:00AM FOLLOWING THE PROVISIONS.
10:52:02AM THEY ARE NOT DECIDING HOW YOU SPEND THE MONEY AS A CITY OF
10:52:04AM TAMPA, TEMPLE TERRACE, WHOMEVER.
10:52:07AM YOU GO MAKE SURE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED ARE FUNDED
10:52:10AM PROPERLY, AND CERTAIN PERCENTAGES DEALING WITH DIFFERENT
10:52:13AM FUNCTIONS.
10:52:13AM YOU CAN'T SPEND MORE OF THIS MONEY ON THIS FUNCTION.
10:52:16AM THEY ARE REALLY OVERSEEING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING.
10:52:19AM IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN AUDIT.
10:52:20AM THEY ARE NOT REALLY DETERMINING HOW THE MONEY IS BEING
10:52:22AM SPENT.
10:52:22AM IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT THEY CAN BRING IT TO OUR
10:52:25AM ATTENTION.
10:52:25AM BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINAL WORD ON HOW WE SPEND UNLESS
10:52:28AM THEY WANT TO CHALLENGE IT.
10:52:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO THEY WILL HAVE LIKE A DAY-TO-DAY
10:52:32AM OPERATION?
10:52:34AM [NO ENCODER]
10:53:11AM [NO ENCODER]
10:53:12AM >> WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO GET THOSE PROJECTS GOING
10:53:16AM AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS QUESTION
10:53:19AM ANSWERED.
10:53:19AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:53:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO OUR 10:30.
10:53:22AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS 56 THROUGH IT
10:53:26AM 58.
10:53:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:53:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:30AM OPPOSED?
10:53:30AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 56 THROUGH 58, PLEASE
10:53:34AM STAND AND BE SWORN.
10:53:39AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
10:53:52AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:53:54AM ON ITEM 56, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A TWO-WEEK
10:53:57AM CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 21st.
10:54:00AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THAT.
10:54:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE?
10:54:06AM ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 56 BEING CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY
10:54:10AM 21st?
10:54:11AM ITEM 56?
10:54:12AM BE CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY 21st, 2019.
10:54:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SEE NO ONE.
10:54:16AM I MOVE CONTINUANCE OF ITEM 56 TO FEBRUARY 21, 10:30 IN THE
10:54:23AM MORNING.
10:54:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:54:26AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:54:27AM OPPOSED?
10:54:27AM ALL RIGHT.
10:54:28AM ITEM NUMBER 57.
10:54:28AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:54:32AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 57.
10:54:34AM I AM GOING TO BE HANDING OUT PAPERS FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.
10:54:37AM THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW HEARING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:54:40AM WHEN YOU HEAR THESE PETITION FOR REHEARINGS THERE'S BETWEEN
10:54:45AM 12 AND 14 DIFFERENT STANDARD OF REVIEW THAT YOU ARE BEING
10:54:47AM ASKED TO HAVE BEEN APPLY SO WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU GUYS
10:54:50AM BE CLEAR FOR EACH ONE.
10:55:03AM AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR
10:55:05AM A DESIGN EXCEPTION 2.
10:55:09AM IF YOU WILL LOOK AT THE THIRD PAGE THAT I HANDED TO YOU,
10:55:13AM IT'S A CODE PROVISION THAT GOVERNS A DESIGN EXCEPTION 2.
10:55:16AM WHEN YOU ARE SEEING WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE
10:55:18AM OR DESIGN THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION, THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT
10:55:21AM YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE.
10:55:23AM SO I PRINTED THEM OUT SEPARATELY SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM.
10:55:29AM WHAT HAS COME BEFORE YOU IS THERE WAS A REQUEST TO THE
10:55:34AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION 2 THAT WAS
10:55:38AM APPROVED SO IT'S COMING TO YOU IS AN APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN
10:55:42AM EXCEPTION 2 THAT WAS CHALLENGED, A PETITION FOR REVIEW WAS
10:55:46AM FILED BY A THIRD PARTY, A NEIGHBOR.
10:55:48AM THE PETITION FOR REVIEW ACTUALLY WAS FILED BOTH BY AN
10:55:52AM ADJOINING NEIGHBOR A NEIGHBOR MORE THAN 250 FEET AND THE
10:55:57AM DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC ASSOCIATION. THE DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC
10:55:59AM ASSOCIATION, THE BEST THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE,
10:56:02AM DOES NOT OWN PROPERTY WITHIN 250 FEET SO THEY ARE NOT A
10:56:05AM PETITIONER IN THIS CASE.
10:56:07AM BUT YOU STILL HAVE A PETITIONER.
10:56:09AM AND DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC ASSOCIATION CAN PARTICIPATE AS A
10:56:12AM MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE PUBLIC.
10:56:15AM THEY ARE JUST NOT A PETITIONER IN THIS CASE.
10:56:18AM I HAVE ALSO HANDED YOU SEVERAL MOTIONS.
10:56:23AM BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ARE DIFFERENT IT CAN GET VERY
10:56:26AM CONFUSING.
10:56:27AM IT CAME AS AN APPROVAL.
10:56:28AM IF YOU WANT TO UPHOLD THE APPROVAL THERE'S A MOTION GRANTING
10:56:34AM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
10:56:35AM IF YOU WANT TO DENY THE EXCEPTION THAT'S ALSO HIGHLIGHTED
10:56:37AM AND IF THAT'S THE MOTION YOU WILL BE OVERTURNING THE
10:56:40AM APPROVAL THAT WAS GRANTED.
10:56:43AM AGAIN, THIS COMES TO YOU AS ALREADY APPROVED DESIGN
10:56:47AM EXCEPTIONS SO IT WOULD BE THE PETITIONER WHO IS CHALLENGING
10:56:50AM IT WHO HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN THIS CASE.
10:56:54AM THE FIRST PAGE I HANDED YOU IS A PROCESS, IT'S JUST SPELLED
10:56:59AM OUT SO EVERYONE CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
10:57:00AM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
10:57:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:57:04AM PETITIONER?
10:57:07AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
10:57:10AM THIS IS DESIGN EXCEPTION 2-18-56.
10:57:15AM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 90 COLUMBIA DRIVE.
10:57:20AM AND THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RM-24.
10:57:25AM THE RM-24 ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 FEET.
10:57:39AM YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE'S A FOOTNOTE FOR EVERY FOOT OF
10:57:44AM BUILDING HEIGHT ABOVE 30.
10:57:47AM MUST BE INCREASED BY ONE FOOT.
10:57:50AM THE REQUEST BEFORE ME WAS TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASED HEIGHT
10:57:55AM FROM 30 FEET TO 33 FEET, WHICH REPRESENTS A 10% INCREASE IN
10:58:01AM HEIGHT.
10:58:02AM THE CODE DOES ALLOW UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTIONS TO ALLOW
10:58:07AM FOR AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF UP TO 10%.
10:58:13AM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS REVIEWED.
10:58:16AM IT SHOWS THAT THE BASE SETBACK ESPECIALLY ALONG THE FRONT,
10:58:21AM THE SIDE AND THE CORNER ARE AT 7 FEET, THE REAR ACTUALLY HAS
10:58:24AM A LARGER THAN 20-FOOT SETBACK.
10:58:40AM THIS IS THE PROPOSED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, 6 UNITS,
10:58:44AM BASICALLY A FLAT ROOF WITH A 33-FOOT HEIGHT.
10:58:50AM THIS IS THE STAIRWELL WHICH IS EXEMPT FROM HEIGHT
10:58:53AM LIMITATIONS.
10:58:54AM IN TERMS OF BY REVIEW, I LOOKED AT THE REQUESTS.
10:58:59AM THEY ARE IN DAVIS ISLAND WHICH HAS FLOOD ISSUES IN TERMS OF
10:59:02AM THEIR HAVING TO RAISE THEIR ELEVATION.
10:59:05AM THE DESIGN OF THE TOWNHOUSES IS GOING TO BE ORIENTED TOWARDS
10:59:10AM COLUMBIA DRIVE, WHICH I FELT WAS -- THE PATTERN OF
10:59:17AM DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
10:59:19AM A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
10:59:22AM THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AT THE CORNER.
10:59:25AM YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT COUNCIL
10:59:28AM APPROVED.
10:59:29AM THAT'S ABOUT A 4-STORY BUILDING RIGHT TO THE REAR OF THE
10:59:32AM PROPERTY.
10:59:37AM IN TERMS OF ADJACENT, THERE'S A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT THAT
10:59:40AM IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
10:59:44AM AND THEN THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH
10:59:50AM ON COLUMBIA.
11:00:00AM I CONDITIONED THE APPROVAL THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE COMPLY WITH
11:00:02AM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVIATION AUTHORITY HEIGHT
11:00:05AM LIMITATION, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY
11:00:08AM PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
11:00:09AM I FELT THAT THE REQUEST DID NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF
11:00:13AM OTHERS AND THAT WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
11:00:17AM IT'S ONLY A 10% HEIGHT.
11:00:19AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE RS DISTRICTS, THE RS-60 DISTRICT BY
11:00:23AM RIGHT, THEY ARE ABLE TO GO UP TO 35 FEET IN HEIGHT AT THE
11:00:30AM BASE SETBACKS. IN THIS CASE THEY WERE ASKING FOR 33 FEET AT
11:00:33AM THE BASE SETBACK.
11:00:34AM I FELT THAT IT WAS WITHIN THE 10% REQUEST.
11:00:38AM AND I APPROVED IT.
11:00:43AM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:00:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PETITIONER?
11:00:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:01:03AM I JUST SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD THE STAFF REPORT, THE
11:01:12AM ELEVATION, AND I WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO MY NEIGHBORS WHO
11:01:15AM ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS POSITION.
11:01:18AM THEY ARE WEARING YELLOW NAME TAGS.
11:01:21AM MY NAME IS KATHLEEN FARZANEGAN.
11:01:27AM MY HUSBAND AND I OWN A HOME THAT IS WITHIN THE 250-FOOT
11:01:31AM RADIUS OF 90 COLUMBIA DRIVE, THE SUBJECT OF TODAY'S HEARING.
11:01:34AM I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION
11:01:39AM BE OVERTURNED AND THE REQUIRED RM-24 ZONING CODE BE COMPLIED
11:01:44AM WITH.
11:01:47AM THE APPROVAL OF A HEIGHT INCREASE FROM 33 FEET TO 33 FEET
11:01:50AM WITHOUT THE RM-24 CODE REQUIREMENTS OF AN INCREASED SETBACK
11:01:56AM AT ONE FOOT TO ONE FOOT RATIO IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE
11:01:59AM CRITERIA AS REQUIRED IN SECTION 27-685.
11:02:06AM OVER 20 RESIDENTS FROM OUR COLUMBIA DRIVE AND BERING STREET
11:02:10AM WEST ATTENDED THE NOVEMBER 9, 2017 ZONING HEARING IN FRONT
11:02:15AM OF COUNCIL TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERN ABOUT THE ZONING REQUEST.
11:02:18AM THE APPLICANT PREVAILED AND RECEIVED COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
11:02:23AM THE PROPERTY IS NOW RM-24.
11:02:26AM WE LEFT THAT HEARING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
11:02:29AM DEVELOPER WOULD ABIDE BY ALL REQUIREMENTS OF RM-24.
11:02:34AM WE BASED OUR UNDERSTANDING ON THE FOLLOWING:
11:02:37AM TRANSCRIPT OF 11-9 HEARING.
11:02:40AM MR. MICHELINI.
11:02:43AM AGAIN THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUESTED BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A
11:02:46AM PD.
11:02:46AM IT IS NOT SITE PLAN CONTROLLED AT THIS TIME.
11:02:50AM SO ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH RM-24.
11:02:55AM WE ARE GOING TO BE MEETING ALL THE DEVELOPMENT CODES, AND
11:02:59AM ALSO WILL HAVE TO MEET THE HEIGHT REGULATIONS AS ESTABLISHED
11:03:03AM BY CODE RM-24.
11:03:06AM A MAXIMUM OF 9 DEVELOPMENT UNITS COULD BE ESTABLISHED ON
11:03:10AM THIS PROPERTY IF WE CAN MEET THE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA, BUT
11:03:15AM THAT ALSO INCLUDES MEETING ALL THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS
11:03:19AM AS WELL AS THE SETBACKS AND PROVIDING FOR ALL ON-SITE
11:03:23AM PARKING.
11:03:25AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA: YOUR PARKING WILL BE ON YOUR OWN LAND,
11:03:29AM CANNOT BE ON THE STREET?
11:03:31AM MR. MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:03:33AM CANNOT BE ON THE STREET.
11:03:34AM IT HAS TO BE ON THE PROPERTY AND HAS TO PROVIDE FOR ADEQUATE
11:03:39AM BACKUP SPACE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE
11:03:43AM GARAGE ENCLOSURES.
11:03:47AM STAFF REPORT ON THIS REZONING: THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING
11:03:51AM REQUEST.
11:03:52AM THEREFORE NO WAIVERS ARE PERMITTED.
11:03:56AM AS THE PETITIONER, MY INTEREST IN ASKING YOU TO OVERTURN
11:04:01AM THIS DECISION IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO BE ADVERSARIAL.
11:04:05AM I BELIEVE THE BLOCK FACING THE MARINA IS A PRIME LOCATION
11:04:09AM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
11:04:10AM I AM SIMPLY ASKING THAT THE DEVELOPER COMPLY WITH THE RM
11:04:15AM ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND FOLLOW THE CODE.
11:04:18AM WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION ON A CLEAR LOT, OF 17,860 SQUARE FEET,
11:04:25AM THE DEVELOPER SHOULD DESIGN A STRUCTURE THAT CONFORMS TO
11:04:29AM CODE.
11:04:30AM THAT IS COMMON SENSE.
11:04:33AM THEY KNEW THE FACT WHEN THEY MADE THE DECISION TO PURSUE THE
11:04:36AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:04:37AM ALL COMMENTS FROM THE ZONING HEARING INDICATED THAT WAS THE
11:04:41AM PLAN.
11:04:41AM WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY IF THOSE COMMITMENTS WERE
11:04:44AM FOLLOWED.
11:04:48AM OF REAL CONCERN WAS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS.
11:04:53AM FINAL ELEVATIONS AND PERHAPS WERE NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL LONG
11:04:58AM AFTER THE ORIGINAL NOTICE, AND JUST DAYS PRIOR TO THE
11:05:02AM DECISION.
11:05:04AM IF ELEVATIONS AND SITE PLANS ARE MODIFIED IN SUCH
11:05:07AM SIGNIFICANT WAY, A NEW NOTICE SHOULD BE REQUIRED.
11:05:11AM IN ADDITION, IT APPEARS THAT THE DEVELOPER SEEKS TO DEVELOP
11:05:15AM A STRUCTURE THAT MAY BE BETTER SUPPORTED BY A DIFFERENT
11:05:18AM ZONING CODE.
11:05:20AM HE WANTS THE HEIGHT ALLOWED BY RM-24 OF UP TO 60 FEET.
11:05:24AM HOWEVER DOES NOT WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE SETBACK
11:05:27AM REQUIREMENTS.
11:05:28AM RM-16 OR 18 WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT
11:05:33AM UP TO 35 FEET.
11:05:34AM HOWEVER, WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE HEIGHT HE INSTEAD PLANS OF
11:05:39AM 42 FEET.
11:05:42AM IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT TO ALLOW THE GRANTING OF RM-24
11:05:48AM AND THEN ELIMINATE WITHOUT ADEQUATE JUSTIFICATION THE
11:05:51AM REQUIREMENTS OF THAT CODE.
11:05:54AM MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE CONCERNED THAT THE INCREASED SIZE AND
11:05:57AM SCALE OF THIS PROPERTY COMPLETELY CHANGES THE CHARACTER OF
11:06:02AM THIS PROPERTY.
11:06:03AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CODE, THE RULE BOOK CITY
11:06:08AM COUNCIL CREATED, ARE INTENDED TO BE REFLECTIONS OF THE NEEDS
11:06:12AM OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:06:14AM IN ORDER TO BE GRANTED THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION, THE DEVELOPER
11:06:18AM MUST THE DEMONSTRATE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WARRANT SUCH
11:06:22AM A WAIVER.
11:06:24AM AGAIN, THE SITE IS OF SUFFICIENT SIZE TO ALLOW THE DESIGN
11:06:29AM AND DEVELOPMENT OF A TOWNHOUSE PROJECT THAT ADHERES TO CODE
11:06:32AM REQUIREMENTS.
11:06:36AM DAVIS ISLANDS IS NOT A HISTORIC DISTRICT SO WE DON'T HAVE
11:06:40AM THE PROTECTION OF THE REVIEW COMMISSION.
11:06:41AM WE ARE THEREFORE DEPENDENT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
11:06:45AM ZONING CODES AND LOOK TO THE CITY STAFF AND THE CITY COUNCIL
11:06:48AM TO PLACE GREAT IMPORTANCE ON THEM WHEN YOU ARE ASKED TO
11:06:51AM CONSIDER A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
11:06:55AM THE DECISION LETTER DETERMINES THAT THE MINOR ENCROACHMENT
11:06:59AM AND THE REQUIRED HEIGHT AT THE BASE SETBACK WOULD NOT BE
11:07:03AM INJURIOUS TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE.
11:07:07AM I DISAGREE.
11:07:08AM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION IMPACTS PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND
11:07:12AM GENERAL WELFARE.
11:07:14AM ON COLUMBIA DRIVE AND BEARING STREET PARKING IS A MAJOR
11:07:19AM ISSUE.
11:07:20AM EMPLOYEES FROM TGH PARK ON COLUMBIA DRIVE AND BEHRING IN
11:07:31AM VIOLATION OF 4-HOUR LIMITS.
11:07:37AM WALKERS, RUNNERS AND BIKERS USE THESE STREETS FOR RECREATION
11:07:41AM AND TO ACCESS THE SAND RAP FREEMAN TENNIS COURTS, GARDEN
11:07:45AM CLUB, MARINA, POOL, AND LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD AND PLAYGROUND.
11:07:51AM BERING STREET IS THE THROUGH-WAY BY WHICH PEOPLE ACCESS
11:07:59AM THOSE VENUES.
11:08:00AM SUMMER CATCH IS HELD EACH YEAR AND LARGE GROUPS OF CHILDREN
11:08:03AM WALK BACK AND FORTH FROM THE TENNIS COURT TO THE POOL,
11:08:06AM LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD AND PLAYGROUND.
11:08:08AM PARKING HAS MADE THIS TREACHEROUS.
11:08:11AM THERE IS REAL DANGER THAT SOMEONE WILL BE HIT BY A CAR.
11:08:14AM I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL CLOSE CALLS.
11:08:17AM TENNIS PLAYERS, SANDRA FREEMAN TENNIS COURT HAVE, LAUNCHED A
11:08:20AM PETITION DRIVE TO ASK THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE
11:08:23AM PARKING ENFORCEMENT A PRIORITY.
11:08:26AM BECAUSE THE GARAGES FOR THE TOWNHOUSES ARE THE ABSOLUTE
11:08:31AM MINIMUM SIZE, 16 FEET OPENING FOR TWO CARS, IT IS
11:08:37AM IMPRACTICAL TO BELIEVE THAT ALL PARKING FOR TOWNHOMES WILL
11:08:40AM BE WITHIN THOSE GARAGES.
11:08:43AM THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE ASSUMING THAT THE ONLY PLACE TO
11:08:47AM STORE TRASH AND RECYCLING BINS MUST BE IN THESE GARAGES.
11:08:55AM THERE IS NO ROOM FOR A TRASH DUMPSTER ON THE SITE.
11:09:11AM THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING.
11:09:15AM NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES 27-283-7.
11:09:19AM GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE LACK OF SPACE FOR
11:09:22AM TRASH RECEPTACLES, NOT ONLY WILL RESIDENTS OF THESE
11:09:26AM TOWNHOUSES LIKELY SEEK STREET PARKING, ANY GUESTS WOULD BE
11:09:29AM REQUIRED, TOO.
11:09:32AM THE DEVELOPER HAS ASKED FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION FROM 30 FEET
11:09:35AM IN HEIGHT TO 33 FEET IN HEIGHT.
11:09:38AM THESE DRAWINGS CLEARLY SHOW A HEIGHT OF 42 FEET A AS DEFINED
11:09:44AM BY THE CODE.
11:09:45AM AS SUCH, ON A SITE OF 17,860 SQUARE FEET, THERE IS NO REASON
11:09:51AM THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS CANNOT BE MET.
11:09:56AM AS THE DRAWINGS SHOW THE TOP DECK OF THE PENTHOUSE TO BE 42
11:10:03AM FEET.
11:10:04AM PER CODE AS EXPLAINED TO ME, THE PENTHOUSE SHOULD BE BUILT
11:10:09AM 12 FEET FROM THE SETBACK.
11:10:11AM HOWEVER, THE ELEVATION PROVIDED SHOWS ONLY 9 FEET 10 INCHES
11:10:16AM FROM THE SIDE SETBACK.
11:10:20AM I KNOW WE ARE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME SO I AM GOING TO WRAP UP
11:10:26AM SO WE CAN CONTINUE. IN COLLUSION I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER
11:10:29AM HAS NOT MET THE REQUIREMENTS TO SHOW ADEQUATE JUSTIFICATION
11:10:32AM FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
11:10:34AM THE RESIDENTS OF COLUMBIA DRIVE AND BERING STREET STRONGLY
11:10:39AM BELIEVE THAT THE ADDED DENSITY AND LIMITED PARKING AND
11:10:42AM DANGEROUS ALLEY CONFIGURATION IS A HAZARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY,
11:10:48AM GIVEN HIGH PEDESTRIAN BIKE AND OTHER TRAFFIC.
11:10:51AM AND I JUST DO WANT TO SHOW YOU TWO MORE PICTURES.
11:10:56AM THIS IS THE ISLANDER CONDOMINIUM THAT'S BEING COMPLETED ON
11:10:59AM THE CORNER OF BERING AND DAVIS, AND THEN THIS IS THE NARROW
11:11:05AM ALLEYWAY BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT
11:11:10AM WILL BE DEVELOPED.
11:11:18AM WHEN THE ORIGINAL ZONING WAS APPROVED IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT
11:11:21AM THE RM-24 CODE WOULD BE ADHERED TO.
11:11:23AM IT WAS STATED THAT NO WAIVERS WOULD BE REQUESTED.
11:11:26AM WITHOUT ADEQUATE NOTIFICATION AND THE LATE CHANGES TO THE
11:11:29AM DESIGN DOCUMENTS, IT APPEARS THE PROCESS HAS BEEN
11:11:33AM COMPROMISED.
11:11:35AM WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF OUR
11:11:37AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:11:39AM I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER WHAT YOU WOULD
11:11:43AM DO IF THIS WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:11:45AM THEREFORE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU OVERTURN THIS
11:11:48AM DECISION LETTER THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION AND
11:11:52AM REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO COMPLY WITH THE RM-24 CODE.
11:11:57AM THANK YOU.
11:11:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:12:03AM ALL RIGHT.
11:12:37AM LET ME ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 17 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE
11:12:44AM 11:30.
11:12:45AM SO WE WILL NOT FINISH AND RE RECONVENE AT 2:00.
11:12:54AM BUT WE ARE GOING TO STOP AT 11:30 BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER
11:12:57AM OBLIGATION THAT WE ALL NEED TO GET TO.
11:13:01AM SO I AM GOING TO MUTT YOU ON NOTICE THAT AT 11:30 I WILL
11:13:08AM INTERRUPT YOU AND RECESS UNTIL 2:00.
11:13:13AM BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE NOT GOING TO FINISH THIS.
11:13:15AM ALL RIGHT.
11:13:15AM YOU MAY START.
11:13:16AM >> JULIA MANDELL WITH THE LAW FIRM OF GRAY ROBINSON, 401
11:13:22AM EAST JACKSON STREET AND I REPRESENT DAVIS TOWN HOME LLC WHO
11:13:27AM IS THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT.
11:13:29AM I HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS AND MY LEGAL
11:13:32AM ARGUMENT IN ORDER TO SAVE TIME BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT YOU
11:13:34AM HAVE TO LEAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMITMENT AT 11:30.
11:13:38AM AND I SIMPLY ASK THE ARCHITECT TO GET UP AND DESCRIBE WHAT
11:13:41AM HIS PLANS ARE AND WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE BEHIND FILING FOR
11:13:45AM THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION.
11:13:47AM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS BEFORE I TURNED IT
11:13:49AM OVER TO HIM.
11:13:50AM FIRST OF ALL, THIS WAS A EUCLIDEAN ZONING TO RM-24 WHICH
11:13:55AM DOES ALLOW A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 FEET.
11:13:58AM THE PROJECT AND THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES
11:14:01AM THAT ARE BOTH ZONED WITH A PD WHICH ALLOWS EXCESSIVE HEIGHT
11:14:05AM OVER THE 33 FEET, AND ALSO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH
11:14:10AM AT THE SETBACK LINE ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOMES
11:14:15AM AT A 35-FOOT MAXIMUM.
11:14:18AM THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OTHER ZONING
11:14:20AM CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR TOWNHOMES AT 35
11:14:23AM FEET AT THE SET BACK LINE FOR THE PURPOSES OF MOVING
11:14:29AM FORWARD.
11:14:30AM AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, AT THE TIME YOU WOULD FILE FOR
11:14:32AM REZONING YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE GOING TO
11:14:35AM END UP BEING AND YOU DON'T ALWAYS ENGINEER THE SITE. IN
11:14:37AM THIS INSTANCE UPON ENGINEERING THE SITE AND MAKING SURE THAT
11:14:41AM THEY WENT FORWARD WITH THE TOWNHOUSE PROJECT THAT WAS
11:14:43AM CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA, THAT WAS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND
11:14:47AM LOOKED PROPER AND WELL DONE IN THE DAVIS ISLAND COMMUNITY
11:15:00AM THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED I BELIEVE HAS 33 FEET.
11:15:04AM THE PROPERTIES SHOWN BY THE PETITIONER ARE NOT PART OF THE
11:15:08AM CALCULATION FOR THE DETERMINATION OF HEIGHT.
11:15:10AM SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD
11:15:12AM AND RAISE WITH YOU ON THE INITIAL DISCUSSION.
11:15:15AM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT IT INTO CONTEXT OF WHAT'S
11:15:17AM BEING REQUESTED VERSUS THE IDEA THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES
11:15:22AM HAVE A MAXIMUM 60-FOOT HEIGHT AND IS SURROUNDED BY
11:15:25AM PROPERTIES THAT CAN GO TO 33 AND 35 AT THE SETBACK LINE OF
11:15:29AM 25 FEET.
11:15:30AM ALL THE GREEN SPACE HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS REQUIRED.
11:15:33AM THE PARKING CRITERIA HAS BEEN COMPLIED WITH.
11:15:37AM AND ALL OTHER CRITERIA, BECAUSE THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAME
11:15:41AM UP DURING THE BIG UNDER WHICH THE ARCHITECT WAS MOVING
11:15:45AM FORWARD, IN DETERMINING THAT THERE WERE FLOOD ELEVATION
11:15:49AM ISSUES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT DAVIS ISLAND AS ONE MIGHT
11:15:52AM IMAGINE.
11:15:52AM I AM GOING TO ASK THE ARCHITECT TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND
11:15:55AM JUST DESCRIBE HIS PLANS AND I WILL SAVE ANY ADDITIONAL TIME
11:15:58AM FOR REBUTTAL.
11:15:59AM THANK YOU.
11:15:59AM >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW KEY POINTS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
11:16:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: STATE-OF-THE-ART FOR THE RECORD.
11:16:10AM >> I'M SORRY.
11:16:11AM MICHAEL KOLAZO, FOR LANDMARK DESIGN STUDIO.
11:16:16AM AND REALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS RM-24 ALLOWS US TO
11:16:21AM HAVE NINE UNITS.
11:16:22AM WE WERE JUST LOOKING TO GET SIX IN THERE.
11:16:24AM AND OUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO TRY TO GET ABOUT 24 FEET.
11:16:28AM BUT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE, THIS IS A
11:16:36AM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, OUR SET BACK WENT FROM 7 FEET TO
11:16:40AM 5 FEET AND REDUCED THE OTHER UNITS.
11:16:43AM ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR IS BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN FLOOD
11:16:46AM ELEVATION PUTS US CLOSER ABOUT 5 FEET, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE
11:16:50AM STAIRS CAN GET PRETTY HIGH.
11:16:52AM ACCESSIBILITY BECOMES A CHALLENGE.
11:16:54AM SO WE WANTED TO DESIGN THIS SO THAT THIS COULD MEET
11:16:57AM ACCESSIBILITY, THAT PEOPLE CAN ARRIVE AT THE GROUND LEVEL,
11:17:01AM THAT GROUND LEVEL IS NOT CONSIDERED HABITABLE.
11:17:05AM THAT'S JUST REALLY TO GET INTO THE ELEVATOR, THE STAIRS, AND
11:17:09AM IT'S REALLY TWO STORIES ON TOP OF THAT RECEPTION AREA.
11:17:12AM IT WILL BE -- BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE DESIGN REQUIRED
11:17:18AM US TO BE AT THE SETBACK LINE AT THE MINIMUM, THE 7 FEET THAT
11:17:25AM 30-FOOT REALLY BECAME OUR BUILDING HEIGHT, AND WORKING WITH
11:17:30AM TRUSS COMPANIES AND ALL THE DESIGN CONSTRAINTS WE COULD NOT
11:17:33AM MEET THE 30-FOOT.
11:17:35AM WE GOT IT DOWN TO JUST UNDER 33 FEET.
11:17:38AM BY INCHES.
11:17:41AM BY BEING A LITTLE CREATIVE WITH IT.
11:17:42AM BUT REALLY, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A TWO-STORY TOWNHOUSE
11:17:48AM UNIT OVER A RECEPTION AREA THAT'S CONDITIONED.
11:17:54AM AND THAT'S MAINLY THE PROJECT THERE.
11:17:58AM >>JULIA MANDELL: I WILL HOLD THE REST OF MY TIME FOR THIS
11:18:12AM BUT I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THE PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE
11:18:14AM IN YOUR CODE FOR AT LEAST 15, PROBABLY LONGER, 20 YEARS, FOR
11:18:19AM THESE TYPES OF ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT USED TO BE
11:18:22AM CALLED ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES, TO ALLOW PROPERTY OWNERS TO
11:18:25AM GO TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY DEAL WITH ISSUES ON THE GROUND
11:18:28AM AS THEY GO INTO DEVELOP WITHOUT HAVING TO REZONE, WITHOUT
11:18:33AM HAVING TO GO THROUGH A MUCH MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS.
11:18:37AM THAT IS WHAT IS IN YOUR CODE SO I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION
11:18:40AM OF THE NEIGHBORS BUT IT IS NOT UNFAIR TO SAY THAT THIS
11:18:44AM PROPERTY OWNER LIKE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS AND
11:18:47AM HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE BENEFIT OF THE CODE AS IT
11:18:50AM EXISTS TODAY, WHICH DOES ALLOW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH
11:18:53AM THE RIGHT LEVEL OF EVIDENCE.
11:18:56AM EVEN MOREDA WHO HAS BEEN REVIEWING THESE FOR YEARS MADE A
11:19:00AM DETERMINATION THAT SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE WAS SUBMITTED TO HER
11:19:02AM THE TO SHOW THAT THIS PROJECT IN ORDER TO MEET FLOOD
11:19:04AM ELEVATIONS, WAS ELIGIBLE FOR THE 10% INCREASE IN HEIGHT, AND
11:19:09AM AGAIN LOOKING AT THE AREAS SURROUNDING IT, DETERMINED
11:19:14AM PROPERLY THAT IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:19:17AM THIS IS THE 35-FOOT, THE 25-FOOT SETBACK WITH THE 7-FOOT
11:19:21AM SIDE SETBACK, IS A BENEFIT FOR ALMOST EVERY OTHER PROPERTY
11:19:24AM ON DAVIS ISLAND, AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO
11:19:27AM HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE
11:19:29AM NEIGHBORHOOD, SHE DEEMED IT APPROPRIATE, AND IT IS OUR
11:19:33AM POSITION THAT COUNCIL SHOULD DEEM IT APPROPRIATE.
11:19:35AM ALSO WHATEVER REMAINING TIME I WILL RESERVE FOR REBUTTAL.
11:19:39AM THANK YOU.
11:19:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY MEMBER. PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 57?
11:19:44AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
11:19:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:19:51AM GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
11:19:52AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THIS MATTER.
11:19:54AM FOR THE RECORD I'M BOB ABBEYGER, 545 FIRST AVENUE, HERE AS
11:20:00AM ZONING CHAIR FOR THE DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC ASSOCIATION, AND I
11:20:03AM HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:20:05AM WE ARE HERE TO STRONGLY REQUEST SUPPORT FOR THE APPLICANT'S
11:20:09AM REQUEST TO OVERTURN THE APPROVED VARIANCE FOR THIS SITE.
11:20:14AM WE THINK THE CASE IS FAIRLY STRONG FORWARD.
11:20:20AM THERE'S STRONG DEVELOPER REPRESENTATION THAT THEY COULD
11:20:23AM FULLY COMPLY, AND NO VARIANCES WOULD BE SOUGHT.
11:20:30AM UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES I DON'T BELIEVE ARE DEMONSTRATED IN
11:20:32AM THIS INSTANCE IF WE BELIEVE THAT FLOOD REQUIREMENTS ARE
11:20:36AM UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE, THEN NOTHING UNDER CODE WOULD BE
11:20:42AM ENFORCED VIRTUALLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:20:45AM IT'S A LARGE SITE.
11:20:46AM THIS ISN'T ABOUT HEIGHT.
11:20:47AM IT'S BEFORE SETBACK AND OVERDENSIFICATION OF THE SITE.
11:20:52AM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CHARACTER THAT WE
11:20:54AM ARE TRYING TO PROTECT FOR THE ISLAND.
11:20:58AM IT REALLY IS AGAIN THE SETBACK.
11:21:01AM THE UPPER FLOORS ALSO HAVE CANTILEVER.
11:21:06AM THE TOP DECK IS OCCUPIABLE, WHICH IS WHY THERE'S A STAIRWELL
11:21:11AM FOR THE TOP FLOOR.
11:21:13AM IN THE PARKING SITUATION AS CATHY MENTIONED, WHERE THOSE
11:21:18AM DUMPSTERS, AGAIN GO OFF THE STREET, IT'S GOING TO BE
11:21:22AM EXACERBATED, SAFETY COULD BE IMPACTED.
11:21:24AM SO I THINK THERE'S A CLEAR INDICATION THAT THERE IS THE
11:21:26AM ABILITY, IF YOU WILL, FOR THERE TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE
11:21:31AM IMPACT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF AND THE CHARACTER OF THE
11:21:33AM ISLAND.
11:21:34AM NOW, I RECOGNIZE THE ASSOCIATION HAS NO STANDING.
11:21:39AM WE APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER.
11:21:43AM BUT WE DO HAVE A LARGE VOICE OF ADVOCACY FOR THE ISLAND, IN
11:21:46AM THE BEST INTEREST OF SUPPORTING OUR RESIDENTS.
11:21:50AM WE ARE NOT A HISTORIC DISTRICT AS DESIGNATED BUT WE ARE A
11:21:55AM HISTORIC DISTRICT IN EVERYONE'S MIND IN THE CHARACTER OF OUR
11:21:59AM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE FIGHTING HARD TO PROTECT.
11:22:02AM IT ISN'T JUST ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:22:03AM AND WE CAN ONLY KEEP IT AS IT IS WITH YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT.
11:22:08AM VARIANCES ARE REQUIRED AND NECESSARY IN DEVELOPMENT.
11:22:14AM YOU KNOW THAT AND I APPRECIATE HOW HARD STAFF WORKS TO WORK
11:22:17AM WITH DEVELOPERS TO MAKE THESE THINGS VIABLE.
11:22:19AM [BELL SOUNDS]
11:22:20AM BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO A NEW CODE COMPLIANT DEVELOPMENT,
11:22:24AM BECAUSE WITH YOUR HELP, VARIANCES HAVE TO BE WARRANTED,
11:22:29AM REASONABLE, CONSISTENTLY APPLIED, AND NOT A WORK AROUND THAT
11:22:35AM COULD SET AN UNFORTUNATE PRECEDENT.
11:22:37AM SO WE STRONGLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR AN OVERTURN.
11:22:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:49AM >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I LIVE AT 157 BISCAYNE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
11:22:52AM DECADES AGO I WROTE THE DAVIS ISLAND PLAN.
11:22:55AM MORE RECENTLY I SERVED AS A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL AND
11:22:58AM WATCHED COUNCIL RECOGNIZE THE UNIQUE AND SPECIAL CHARACTER
11:23:01AM OF THE ISLAND.
11:23:02AM WHAT IS MOST IMPRESSIVE TO ME IS THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT
11:23:05AM THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS MADE ON THIS STREET.
11:23:08AM THE CITY HAS INVESTED IN THE TENNIS COURTS IN THIS
11:23:12AM DIRECTION, THE MARINA DIRECTLY IN FRONT AND THE LITTLE
11:23:16AM LEAGUE FIELD TO THE RIGHT.
11:23:17AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LOTS OF ACTIVITY, NOT INCLUDING WHAT
11:23:20AM THE CITY DOESN'T OWN BUT WHAT'S VERY ACTIVE, THE JUNIOR
11:23:22AM LEAGUE, THE MARINA AND THEN THE WOMEN'S GARDEN CLUB WHICH
11:23:27AM HAS LOTS AND LOTS OF EVENTS.
11:23:29AM WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE WOULD NOT MEET THE CONCERNS OF
11:23:36AM SITTING IN THIS SPACE, THE HEIGHT, THE PARKING, THE
11:23:44AM RECEPTACLES FOR TRASH AND RECYCLING.
11:23:47AM IT'S VERY, VERY CONCERNING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT ALL
11:23:51AM FITS.
11:23:51AM BUT YOU ALREADY APPROVED THE REZONING SO THAT'S A GIVEN.
11:23:55AM WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TODAY IS TO, BASED ON THE CITY'S
11:23:58AM SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AROUND HERE, BASED ON THE FACT THAT
11:24:01AM YOU KNOW IT'S A TREMENDOUSLY ACTIVE AREA, YOU DON'T ALLOW
11:24:05AM ADDITIONAL WAIVERS, WHICH WOULD FURTHER COMPROMISE THE
11:24:08AM SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CHARACTER OF THE
11:24:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:24:12AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:13AM AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO MAKE A DECISION NOW, I DON'T
11:24:16AM WANT YOU TO RUSH.
11:24:17AM I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS CAREFULLY.
11:24:19AM WE'LL COME BACK.
11:24:19AM THANK YOU.
11:24:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:24:21AM YOU WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
11:24:23AM AND IF YOU WANT TO DO ANY REBUTTAL, WE WILL BE GLAD TO TAKE
11:24:29AM IT.
11:24:29AM >> DEBBIE ZOMERMAAND, 192 CORSICA STREET, DAVIS ISLAND
11:24:34AM RESIDENT, CIVIC ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBER, AND I HAVE BEEN
11:24:37AM SWORN.
11:24:38AM I AM HERE TO ASK THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY
11:24:41AM FOLLOW OUR CODE.
11:24:42AM OTHER THAN THE FAIRLY LARGE ASSEMBLAGE THERE IS NOTHING
11:24:45AM UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS SITE WHICH EXCEEDS 17,000 SQUARE FEET AND
11:24:49AM IS A SUBSTANTIALLY RECTANGULAR PROPERTY.
11:24:51AM THE CITY'S CODES PROVIDE FOR A NUMBER OF BUILDABLE OPTIONS
11:24:54AM WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE AN EXCEPTION OR VARIANCE.
11:24:57AM SPECIFICALLY, THE ZONING DISTRICTS IDENTIFIED AS RM-16 AND
11:25:01AM RM-18 ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 6 TOWNHOMES ON THIS
11:25:05AM SITE.
11:25:05AM ADDITIONALLY, PER TABLE 4.2 WITHIN 27-156 OF THE CODE, THE
11:25:10AM TOWN HOMES COULD REACH A HEIGHT OF 35 FEET WITHOUT ANY
11:25:14AM REDUCTION OF YARD SETBACKS.
11:25:16AM IF THE 33-FOOT HEIGHT IS REALLY THE ISSUE, THE APPLICANT
11:25:20AM COULD PURSUE THE REZONING OF THE SITE TO AN RM-16 OR AN
11:25:23AM RM-18 AND BUILD THE UNITS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE CODE.
11:25:28AM THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS THE BUILDING -- THE ABILITY TO BUILD
11:25:32AM THE FOUND HOMES WITHIN THE RM-24 ZONING SPECIFICS WHICH
11:25:35AM ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 609 FEET SUBJECT TO THE
11:25:38AM REQUIREMENT THAT FOR EACH FOOT OF BUILDING HEIGHT ABOVE 30
11:25:41AM FEET, THE REQUIRED YARD SETBACKS SHOULD BE INCREASED BY ONE
11:25:47AM FOOT.
11:25:47AM PER SECTION 27-43, THE HEIGHT OF THE VERTICAL DIFFERENCE
11:25:52AM BETWEEN THE FINISH GRADE TO THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE
11:25:55AM STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS ILLUSTRATED WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ENTERED
11:26:00AM INTO THE RECORD.
11:26:00AM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION DECISION LETTER WAS INCONSISTENT WITH
11:26:05AM THE CODE WHEN THE STRUCTURE HEIGHT WAS MEASURED FROM THE
11:26:07AM STRUCTURE FRONT FROM THE HIGHEST POINT, AND I RESPECTFULLY
11:26:10AM DISAGREE THAT THAT STRUCTURE ON TOP OF THE ROOF DOES NOT
11:26:15AM FALL WITHIN STRICTLY STAIRWELL CATEGORY.
11:26:17AM IT IS PART OF THE STRUCTURE HEIGHT CALCULATION.
11:26:21AM THIS ERROR WAS SIGNIFICANT.
11:26:25AM THE 30 FEET REAR YARD SHOULD BE INCREASED BY 12 FEET, NOT 3
11:26:30AM FEET, AND TIERED IN A MANNER SIMILAR TO A HE HAD WEDDING
11:26:34AM CAKE.
11:26:34AM THE TIERING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS IT CREATES THE CANYON
11:26:41AM EFFECT THAT WOULD NOT OCCUR IF IT WERE IN PLACE. THIS IS
11:26:44AM ESSENTIALLY A GO AROUND TO AVOID A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK
11:26:49AM REQUIREMENT UNDER THE WITH GUISE OF A LESS SIGNIFICANT
11:26:51AM HEIGHT EXCEPTION.
11:26:52AM WAY OUT OF LINE WITH THE SPECIFICATIONS WITHIN OUR CODE.
11:26:55AM PLEASE FOLLOW OUR CODE.
11:26:57AM OVERTURN THIS PETITION AND REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT
11:27:00AM DEVELOP THEIR SITE IN CONFORMITY WITH THE CODE.
11:27:02AM IT REALLY SIMPLE.
11:27:04AM IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TOWNHOMES AT A 33-FOOT HEIGHT WE HAVE
11:27:08AM GONE TO AN RM 13 OR 16. IF THEY QUANTITY TOWNHOMES WITH A
11:27:12AM 42-FOOT HEIGHT BUILD WITHIN THE RM-24 ZONING WHICH REQUIRES
11:27:15AM SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED SETBACKS OF 30 FEET.
11:27:18AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:27:19AM AND I DO HAVE BACKUP FOR THE RECORD THAT SUPPORTS MY
11:27:23AM STATEMENTS.
11:27:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
11:27:27AM ALL RIGHT.
11:27:29AM APPLICANT, I KNOW YOU HAVE REBUTTAL TIME AND WE HAVE TWO
11:27:32AM MINUTES LEFT.
11:27:33AM LET ME SAY THIS.
11:27:46AM WHETHER SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO
11:27:48AM STOP AT 11:30.
11:27:49AM THAT'S TWO MINUTES.
11:27:51AM SO -- WELL, JUST HANG ON.
11:28:03AM SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO FINISH THIS IN TWO MINUTES.
11:28:07AM WITH THE REBUTTAL TIME FOR THE APPLICANT, AND TO BE FAIR FOR
11:28:10AM ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK.
11:28:12AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO FINISH.
11:28:14AM SO LET ME JUST REMIND EVERYONE, IF WE RESUME THIS AFTERNOON,
11:28:23AM AT 2:00, WE ONLY HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.
11:28:30AM SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION, PETITIONER OR APPLICANT,
11:28:37AM THERE ARE ONLY GOING TO BE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS
11:28:41AM AFTERNOON AT 2:00.
11:28:42AM BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THIS NOW.
11:28:46AM AND SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:28:49AM >>HARRY COHEN: I WOULD MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE IT TO OUR NEXT
11:28:53AM REGULAR MEETING WHICH IS FEBRUARY 21.
11:28:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH MR. COHEN.
11:28:57AM AND FAIRNESS TO BOTH PARTIES, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT ALL YOU
11:29:03AM HAVE TO HAVE IS ONE PERSON, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER ON ONE SIDE
11:29:06AM THE OTHER AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY QUORUM OF 4.
11:29:10AM SO FOR BOTH THE PETITIONER AND THE PERSON WHO IS NOT THE
11:29:13AM PETITIONER IN THIS CASE, WE CONTINUE IT FOR LIKE MR. COHEN
11:29:17AM SAID FOR ANOTHER WEEK SO YOU HAVE THE SEVEN MEMBERS AND BOTH
11:29:20AM SIDES WOULD BE SATISFIED.
11:29:21AM IT WOULD BE A MORE EQUITABLE SITUATION FOR BOTH PARTIES.
11:29:24AM THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
11:29:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:29:26AM QUICKLY.
11:29:27AM >>JULIA MANDELL: WE WILL NOT OBJECT TO THAT CONTINUANCE.
11:29:32AM I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS PETITION
11:29:35AM WAS STAYED DURING THIS PROCESS.
11:29:37AM BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE WON'T HAVE A FULL COUNCIL AND I
11:29:40AM BELIEVE WE ALL BELIEVE IT'S BETTER TO HAVE FAIRNESS IN THIS
11:29:43AM PROCESS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ACCEDE TO THE CONTINUANCE CLOSE
11:29:48AM TO THE AGENDA AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
11:29:52AM THANK YOU.
11:29:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, MA'AM.
11:29:55AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:29:58AM MAY WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN FOR THAT?
11:30:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, WE WILL MAKE THIS ITEM NUMBER 1 ON
11:30:03AM THE AGENDA.
11:30:03AM >>HARRY COHEN: AT 10:30 ON FEBRUARY 21st.
11:30:08AM THAT'S THE MOTION.
11:30:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:30:11AM SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:30:13AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:30:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:30:16AM OPPOSED?
11:30:17AM ALL RIGHT.
11:30:18AM WE WILL CONTINUE THIS TO FEBRUARY 21st AT 10:30 A.M.
11:30:26AM STAND IN RECESS TILL 2:00.
11:30:31AM (TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS.)
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2:05:06PM >>REBECCA KERT: THIS WAS A DESIGN EXCEPTION ONE.
2:05:08PM SO ON THE THIRD PAGE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO APPLY WHEN YOU ARE
2:05:10PM APPROVING OR DENYING THIS.
2:05:12PM THE LAST ONE IS G.
2:05:14PM THAT DOESN'T APPLY BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY DESIGN EXCEPTION 2.
2:05:16PM ALL THE REST OF THEM ARE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE REVIEWING IN
2:05:19PM YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS WAS A REQUEST FOR A DESIGN
2:05:21PM EXCEPTION 1.
2:05:22PM IT WAS DENIED.
2:05:25PM AND THEREFORE IT'S BEING APPEALED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
2:05:29PM I DO HAVE A DRAFT MOTION FOR YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, BUT
2:05:33PM IF YOU WANT TO GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, WHAT MOTION TO
2:05:36PM USE AND IF YOU WANT TO DENY THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
2:05:39PM >>GLORIA MOREDA: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
2:05:44PM THIS IS GE-1-19-10.
2:05:49PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4203 EAST COMANCHE AVENUE.
2:05:55PM I HAVE THE AERIAL THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
2:06:01PM COMANCHE ACTUALLY DEAD-ENDS RIGHT HERE.
2:06:07PM IT'S THE CENTER OF THE THREE HOUSES ALONG COMANCHE ON THE
2:06:10PM SOUTH SIDE.
2:06:11PM THE REQUEST IS FOR A WAIVER OF TWO ITEMS.
2:06:15PM THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY REQUIRES THAT THE GARAGE ENTRANCE AND
2:06:21PM CARPORT BE CONSTRUCTED NO CLOSER TO THE FRONT, TOWARDS THE
2:06:26PM STREET THAN THE FRONT WALL OF THE BUILDING.
2:06:28PM AND THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED A CARPORT THAT IS -- IT IS IN
2:06:34PM FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
2:06:38PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE DRIVEWAY AND THE
2:06:41PM CARPORT LOCATION.
2:06:43PM IT IS DETACHED FROM THE HOUSE.
2:06:46PM OUR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REQUIRES THAT A DETACHED STRUCTURE
2:06:49PM BE LOCATED 60 PHOTO FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
2:06:53PM THEY ARE ESTIMATING THAT IT'S ABOUT A TWO-FOOT SETBACK.
2:06:57PM AND THERE IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT OF 5-FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN
2:07:02PM THE STRUCTURE AND THE HOUSE.
2:07:04PM THE CARPORT, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
2:07:09PM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS VIRTUALLY -- THAT'S WHAT IT WAS
2:07:20PM LISTED.
2:07:21PM A PICTURE OF THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET.
2:07:24PM AND IT'S BASICALLY A SINGLE-FAMILY AREA.
2:07:34PM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:07:36PM AND ALSO THE REVIEW FOR THE URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS IF YOU
2:07:41PM HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE EAST TAMPA
2:07:44PM OVERLAY.
2:07:44PM >>FRANK REDDICK: APPLICANT?
2:07:46PM >> MY NAME IS TWILA WELLS.
2:07:56PM I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER AND I'M ASKING IF YOU COULD GRANT
2:07:59PM THE APPROVAL OF THE SETBACK AREA.
2:08:04PM I HAVE SOME PICTURES IN ADDITION TO WHAT SHE SHOWED YOU, SO
2:08:08PM YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
2:08:21PM MAYBE.
2:08:24PM HERE IS ONE.
2:08:27PM IS THAT BETTER?
2:08:29PM IT ACTUALLY DEAD-ENDS HERE.
2:08:31PM AND THEN I ONLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT OF ME.
2:08:34PM AND THE PICTURE THAT SHE SHOWED THE NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT OF
2:08:39PM ME SO IT'S NOT REALLY OBSTRUCTING VIEW FROM ANYONE.
2:08:42PM THEY CAN STILL SEE THE STREET OR WHATEVER.
2:08:45PM AND HERE, I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT A TWO-FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE
2:08:54PM HOUSE.
2:08:54PM >>FRANK REDDICK: IS THE MAIN PROBLEM A CARPORT?
2:09:05PM >> YES, SIR.
2:09:06PM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND WHAT IS THE REASON FOR NOT APPROVING
2:09:12PM THE CARPORT?
2:09:13PM >> WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON THAT YOU SHOULD NOT APPROVE?
2:09:16PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO.
2:09:17PM WHAT WAS THE REASON THAT YOU DID BECAUSE THEY APPROVED THE
2:09:19PM CARPORT?
2:09:20PM >> YES, SIR.
2:09:21PM BECAUSE OF THE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THE
2:09:23PM QUALIFICATIONS OF THE 60 FEET OF THE FRONT YARD AND THAN THE
2:09:26PM PROPERTY FROM THE HOME.
2:09:27PM >>FRANK REDDICK: AS I LOOK, THE REVIEW PEOPLE HAS NOT BEEN
2:09:34PM ANY -- THOSE KIND OF CARPORTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
2:09:37PM >> YES, SIR, THEY ARE.
2:09:38PM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
2:09:42PM >> YES, SIR.
2:09:43PM >>FRANK REDDICK: EVEN AT CAR WASHES.
2:09:46PM >> YES, SIR, THEY ARE, THEY ARE.
2:09:47PM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T GO OUT AND REVIEW
2:09:52PM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:09:53PM >> THERE'S ONE LIKE A FEW STREETS OVER.
2:09:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I MEAN YOU PASS THEM, YOU SEE THEM
2:10:00PM EVERYWHERE.
2:10:00PM SO I AM SURPRISED ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE.
2:10:09PM JUST ABOUT EVERY BLOCK IN EAST TAMPA.
2:10:10PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
2:10:14PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
2:10:16PM AND I MIGHT ASK STAFF FOR THIS, MRS. MOREDA, BECAUSE I AM
2:10:20PM JUST TRYING TO GET THIS CORRECT IN MY HEAD AS TO WHAT THE
2:10:22PM ISSUE IS.
2:10:24PM IS IT BECAUSE THERE'S A CARPORT IS -- BECAUSE IT'S STRETCHED
2:10:30PM OUT ACROSS THE FACE OF THE HOUSE?
2:10:32PM IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
2:10:33PM >>GLORIA MOREDA: YES, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A WAIVER
2:10:36PM TO THE CODE PROVISIONS.
2:10:38PM AND THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, THE CARPORT SHOULD BE IN LINE
2:10:41PM WITH THE HOUSE.
2:10:42PM IT SHOULD NOT BE EXTENDED IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
2:10:46PM AND THEN THE SETBACKS FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
2:10:49PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO THE CARPORT IS SET UP ALONG THE SIDE OF
2:10:52PM THE HOUSE LIKE MOST HOUSES.
2:10:54PM >>GLORIA MOREDA: IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
2:10:55PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
2:10:57PM THERE'S A PATIO THERE TO THE RIGHT THAT PROBABLY YEARS AGO
2:11:01PM MIGHT HAVE BEEN USED FOR A CAR TO BE PARKED UNDERNEATH WOULD
2:11:04PM BE MY GUESS.
2:11:05PM >>GLORIA MOREDA: IT'S ACTUALLY A CARPORT.
2:11:09PM >> IT'S A DRIVEWAY.
2:11:12PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HANG ON, MA'AM.
2:11:13PM I'M ASKING -- DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
2:11:15PM I'LL GET MY INFORMATION.
2:11:18PM I SEE IT NOW.
2:11:19PM I GUESS I WAS LOOKING AT THE OTHER ONE.
2:11:22PM SO THAT WAS PROBABLY CLOSED IN AT SOME POINT.
2:11:25PM >> IT'S NOT CLOSED IN.
2:11:26PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S NOT NOW?
2:11:27PM I SEE IT NOW.
2:11:29PM IT'S HARD TO SEE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
2:11:31PM IT LOOKS FLAT THERE.
2:11:33PM SO ESSENTIALLY, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CARPORT THAT WAS BUILT
2:11:36PM THAT WAY.
2:11:37PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
2:11:39PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND IT WASN'T THAT SHE BUILT ONTO IT
2:11:41PM PREVIOUSLY OR DID SHE JUST -- AND THIS IS IN ORDER TO CLEAN
2:11:45PM UP A CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION?
2:11:46PM IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
2:11:48PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
2:11:49PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT THAT RIGHT.
2:11:51PM NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE.
2:11:53PM THANK YOU.
2:11:53PM I APPRECIATE IT.
2:11:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
2:11:57PM SAID, AND I USUALLY DON'T LOOK AT THESE THINGS WITH A MIND
2:12:03PM THAT I HAVE TODAY BECAUSE LIKE THE CHAIRMAN SAID, I WOULD
2:12:07PM SAY THERE'S NOT HUNDREDS, THERE'S THOUSANDS IN THE CITY OF
2:12:11PM TAMPA AND THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE LET IT GO FROM ONE TO
2:12:14PM ANOTHER TO ANOTHER.
2:12:15PM AND THAT DISTRICT 5 AND DISTRICT 6, I THINK THEY ARE THE
2:12:20PM MOST PREVALENT.
2:12:22PM AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER VIOLATIONS.
2:12:24PM IS THIS THE ONLY VIOLATION YOU HAVE, MA'AM?
2:12:26PM >> YES, SIR.
2:12:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST A CARPORT?
2:12:29PM >> YES, SIR.
2:12:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THERE?
2:12:34PM >> 2016, I BELIEVE.
2:12:37PM UNTIL -- IT WAS PUT UP 2016.
2:12:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO IT'S BEEN THERE TWO AND A HALF YEARS
2:12:45PM AT LEAST.
2:12:46PM >> ALMOST THREE YEARS.
2:12:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT TO SAY.
2:12:50PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
2:12:52PM ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL?
2:12:58PM I WANT TO INVITE THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD TO MY STREET,
2:13:03PM BECAUSE ON MY STREET WHERE YOU WILL LIVE YOU WILL FIND EIGHT
2:13:06PM OF THESE, RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.
2:13:09PM EIGHT ON MY STREET.
2:13:13PM I EACH HAVE ONE.
2:13:16PM BUT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THAT STYLE.
2:13:19PM MINE IS A DIFFERENT STYLE.
2:13:20PM BUT I DO HAVE ONE.
2:13:26PM SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, BECAUSE IT'S TOO MANY THAT
2:13:33PM THEY HAVE DONE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND -- AND THE PERSON IS
2:13:38PM TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR HOUSE.
2:13:40PM AND PUT IN AN ATTACHMENT.
2:13:44PM THEY ARE GOING TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR, HAVE SOMEONE TO DO IT.
2:13:48PM THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING IT AND NOT GOING TO GET THE PERMIT OR
2:13:53PM HAVE DONE IT, LIKE THE CITY ORDINANCE FOR SETBACKS.
2:13:58PM BUT YOU CAN'T BLAME A PROPERTY OWNER.
2:14:04PM ALL RIGHT.
2:14:04PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER
2:14:07PM 58?
2:14:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:14:10PM >> SECOND.
2:14:10PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
2:14:12PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
2:14:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:14:14PM OPPOSED?
2:14:16PM ALL RIGHT.
2:14:20PM WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:14:24PM >> I'LL TAKE IT.
2:14:27PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
2:14:30PM ADMINISTRATION DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION DU-1-19-7
2:14:35PM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS
2:14:38PM CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH
2:14:40PM IN SECTION 27-60-E 5.
2:14:44PM >> SECOND.
2:14:44PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
2:14:47PM SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
2:14:49PM FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
2:14:50PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:14:52PM OPPOSED?
2:14:53PM OKAY.
2:14:53PM >> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
2:15:02PM >>FRANK REDDICK: DON'T PUT ANOTHER ONE UP NOW.
2:15:03PM >> NO, THANK YOU.
2:15:06PM (LAUGHTER).
2:15:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS.
2:15:09PM MR. VIERA.
2:15:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING, SIR.
2:15:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING, SIR.
2:15:14PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
2:15:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, I JUST HAVE AN ITEM.
2:15:19PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO COME BACK ON
2:15:22PM FEBRUARY 21st UNDER STAFF REPORTS REGARDING SKATING
2:15:25PM STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IN THIS
2:15:29PM CASE SPECIFICALLY UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
2:15:32PM AND IF WE CAN LOOK AT REQUIRING THESE STRUCTURES TO BE
2:15:34PM SUBJECT TO THE EXISTING PERMITTING PROCESS.
2:15:39PM PEOPLE ARE BUILDING THEM WITHOUT PERMITS.
2:15:41PM >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TALKING ABOUT IT.
2:15:46PM BUT SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING ILLEGALLY TO WHAT OUR CODE IS
2:15:49PM DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO WHAT THEY ARE
2:15:53PM BUILDING.
2:15:53PM THAT'S MY ONLY SUGGESTION, IS THAT IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT
2:15:59PM VIOLATION AS OPPOSED TO BEING A CODE ISSUE.
2:16:01PM BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TALKING ABOUT IT.
2:16:03PM I'LL SECOND IT.
2:16:04PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
2:16:06PM GOT A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
2:16:08PM SECOND BY MR. SUAREZ.
2:16:09PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
2:16:11PM OPPOSED?
2:16:13PM OKAY.
2:16:13PM MR. SUAREZ.
2:16:14PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NONE SIR.
2:16:15PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
2:16:19PM I HAND IT TO YOU, MR. VIERA.
2:16:21PM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A COMMENDATION FOR DYLAN MCCARTHY
2:16:28PM WHO HAS JUST BEEN HONORED WITH BECOMING AN EAGLE SCOUT,
2:16:39PM MEMBER OF THE GULF RIDGE BOYS SCOUTS.
2:16:43PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE COMMENDATION ON THE 28th OF
2:16:47PM FEBRUARY AT 9:00.
2:16:48PM >> SECOND.
2:16:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
2:16:52PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:16:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:16:56PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:16:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ONE OTHER ITEM.
2:17:01PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK SHERRY SILK, CEO OF
2:17:07PM HUMANE SOCIETY OF TAMPA, TO GIVE A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION
2:17:11PM ON MARCH 7, 2019.
2:17:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
2:17:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
2:17:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:17:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, COWAN COUNCILMAN COHEN, FOR
2:17:25PM THE RECORD, ABSTAINED FROM A VOTE ON JANUARY 31st AND
2:17:29PM TODAY FILED THE FORM WITH THE CLERK.
2:17:31PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
2:17:35PM I GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
2:17:37PM SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
2:17:39PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
2:17:40PM OPPOSED?
2:17:40PM ALL RIGHT.
2:17:41PM WE STAND ADJOURNED.
2:52:23PM
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