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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, MARCH 21, 2019
9:00 A.M.

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9:04:08AM
9:04:08AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD MORNING.
9:04:11AM WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:04:13AM ORDER.
9:04:13AM I'M GOING TO YIELD TO COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
9:04:17AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:04:18AM PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR
9:04:23AM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:23AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:04:38AM THANK YOU.
9:04:51AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:05:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
9:05:12AM >> SUAREZ?
9:05:13AM COHEN?
9:05:14AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:05:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

9:05:16AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:05:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:05:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:05:20AM GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:05:23AM MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:05:26AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:05:27AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:05:30AM OPPOSED?
9:05:30AM ALL RIGHT.
9:05:31AM WE GO TO THE CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:05:33AM ITEM NUMBER ONE, MR. VIERA.
9:05:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, ACTUALLY, I MOTIONED TO REQUEST THE
9:05:39AM COMMENDATION BE MOVED TO A LATER DATE DUE TO AN UNEXPECTED
9:05:43AM FAMILY MATTER ON THE PART OF MR. STEVE BARBAS AND HIS
9:05:46AM FAMILY.
9:05:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
9:05:49AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:05:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:05:53AM OPPOSED?
9:05:54AM ALL RIGHT.
9:05:54AM GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2, MS. CAPIN.
9:05:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:05:59AM GOOD MORNING.
9:06:23AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS PROUD TO DECLARE APRIL AS WATER

9:06:26AM CONSERVATION MONTH AND ENCOURAGES OUR CITIZENS TO PRACTICE
9:06:30AM WATER CONSERVATION ALL YEAR LONG.
9:06:32AM APRIL IS TRADITIONALLY THE DRYEST MONTH IN FLORIDA.
9:06:35AM AND SINCE 1998, WATER CONSERVATION PRACTITIONERS, INCLUDING
9:06:40AM THE GOVERNOR AND CABINET, HAVE DECLARED APRIL WATER
9:06:44AM CONSERVATION MONTH.
9:06:45AM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WATER DEPARTMENT IS THE MAIN FORCE FOR
9:06:51AM WATER CONSERVATION IN TAMPA, DELIVERING DRINKING WATER TO A
9:06:55AM SERVICE POPULATION OF APPROXIMATELY 600,000 PLUS PEOPLE.
9:06:58AM IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
9:07:00AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SALUTES THE EFFORTS OF OUR WATER
9:07:04AM DEPARTMENT TO CONSERVE THIS FINITE RESOURCE AND GIVES ITS
9:07:08AM HEARTFELT THANKS AND APPRECIATION TO ALL THE DEDICATED MEN
9:07:12AM AND WOMEN WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITIZENS
9:07:15AM ARE PROVIDED WITH THE FINEST WATER IN THE COUNTRY, THE
9:07:19AM FINEST WATER IN THE COUNTRY.
9:07:20AM I LIKE THAT.
9:07:21AM THEREFORE, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DECLARES APRIL 2019 AS WATER
9:07:28AM CONSERVATION MONTH AND OFFERS THEIR FULL SUPPORT TO ALL
9:07:31AM CONSERVATION EFFORTS.
9:07:33AM THANK YOU.
9:07:33AM WE PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
9:07:40AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
9:07:41AM >>CHUCK WEBER: CHUCK WEBER, WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
9:07:43AM THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMENDATION.

9:07:45AM WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:07:47AM WATER CONSERVATION IS IMPORTANT FOR MANAGING OUR WATER
9:07:49AM DEMANDS AND SUSTAINING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
9:07:52AM WE HAVE A SMALL BUT A VERY MIGHTY GROUP OF WATER
9:07:56AM CONSERVATION IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
9:07:57AM KENNY AND JULIE AND JILL WHO RECENTLY RETIRED.
9:08:01AM THEY WORK TIRELESSLY DAY IN AND DAY OUT, ON WEEKENDS AND AT
9:08:06AM NIGHT PROVIDING EDUCATION MATERIALS, LOW-FLOW WATER DEVICES
9:08:11AM TO HELP CONSERVE WATER.
9:08:13AM THEY ALSO DO WATER AUDITS AT OUR RESIDENTS' AND OUR
9:08:18AM CUSTOMERS' HOMES TO HELP THEM OPTIMIZE THEIR WATER USAGE.
9:08:23AM THEY ARE THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND OUR SUCCESS.
9:08:26AM THANK YOU.
9:08:26AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
9:08:28AM THANK YOU, AGAIN, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
9:08:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:40AM ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. VIERA.
9:08:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:08:43AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MY FRIEND AND CONSTITUENT, MRS. NORA
9:08:46AM PAINE, TO COME UP.
9:08:49AM I UNDERSTAND ALSO NORA HAS -- AND HER PEER MENTOR AVA.
9:08:56AM NORA PAINE IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT A VERY WONDERFUL
9:08:59AM ENDEAVOR THAT I REALLY WANT ALL THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW ABOUT
9:09:02AM CALLED THE PENGUIN PROJECT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING
9:09:05AM IN APRIL IN THE NORTH AND NEW TAMPA AREA.

9:09:07AM IT'S GOING TO BE A PRODUCTION OF THE PLAY ALADDIN JUNIOR
9:09:10AM THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON BY A 100% SPECIAL NEEDS CAST.
9:09:14AM IT'S A VERY SPECIAL ENDEAVOR, AND I WANTED NORA, WHO IS THE
9:09:18AM PRESIDENT OF THE NEW TAMPA PLAYERS, TO COME AND TALK TO THE
9:09:21AM PUBLIC ABOUT THIS GREAT PROGRAM.
9:09:22AM >>NORA PAINE: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THANK YOU FOR
9:09:26AM HAVING US HERE TODAY.
9:09:27AM MY NAME IS NORA PAINE, PRESIDENT OF NEW TAMPA PLAYERS AND
9:09:31AM DIRECTOR OF THE PENGUIN PROJECT PRODUCTION.
9:09:33AM PENGUIN PROJECT IS A VERY SPECIAL PROGRAM.
9:09:35AM IT IS A THEATER PROGRAM DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL
9:09:38AM NEEDS.
9:09:38AM WE HAVE TWO OF OUR CAST MEMBERS HERE.
9:09:40AM THIS IS NOEL AND HIS PEER MENTOR AVA.
9:09:46AM ONE PART OF THE PROJECT THAT IS UNIQUE THAT YOU WON'T FIND
9:09:49AM ANYWHERE ELSE IS THE PEER MENTOR ASPECT.
9:09:50AM EACH YOUNG ARTIST IS BUDDIED UP WITH A PEER MENTOR FOR THE
9:09:55AM ENTIRE REHEARSAL PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING THROUGH TO THE
9:09:59AM FINAL CURTAIN.
9:09:59AM THE PEER MENTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO KNOW THEIR YOUNG
9:10:03AM ARTIST, THEIR CHOREOGRAPHY, MUSIC, EVERYTHING THE YOUNG
9:10:07AM ARTIST WOULD NEED TO KNOW.
9:10:09AM THEY ARE THERE TO FORM A SPECIAL FRIENDSHIP WITH THE YOUNG
9:10:11AM ARTIST AND GUIDE THEM ALONG THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE
9:10:14AM PRODUCTION.

9:10:14AM PENGUIN PROJECT WAS INVENTED BY DR. ANDREW MORGAN IN 2004 IN
9:10:18AM ILLINOIS.
9:10:19AM THERE ARE 28 REPLICATION SITES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND
9:10:22AM WE ARE THE FIRST REPLICATION SITE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:10:25AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME AND SEE THE
9:10:29AM PERFORMANCE.
9:10:29AM THE DATES ARE FRIDAY, APRIL 5th.
9:10:31AM SO WE OPEN IN TWO WEEKS.
9:10:32AM AT 8 P.M.
9:10:34AM SATURDAY, APRIL 6th AT 7 P.M.
9:10:37AM AND SUNDAY, APRIL 7th AT 3 P.M.
9:10:40AM AND ALL OF THE PERFORMANCES ARE AT THE UNIVERSITY AREA CDC
9:10:45AM ON 22nd STREET BETWEEN FLETCHER AND BEARSS.
9:10:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:51AM WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
9:10:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, NORA.
9:10:53AM I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, ARE YOU FOLKS IN NEED OF ANY
9:10:56AM FURTHER FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO COMPLETE THE PROGRAM?
9:10:59AM >>NORA PAINE: WE ARE.
9:11:00AM WE ARE IN NEED OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
9:11:02AM WE HAVE ABOUT $1500 LEFT TO RAISE TO -- FOR THE PRODUCTION.
9:11:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
9:11:07AM WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE MANY, MANY TAMPANIANS
9:11:13AM WATCHING CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW TO PLEASE CHIP INTO THIS
9:11:17AM GREAT PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.

9:11:18AM SOME OF THE BEST MEMORIES OF MY LIFE GROWING UP AS A YOUNG
9:11:21AM PERSON WAS WATCHING MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN, WHO IS
9:11:24AM DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED, IN A PLAY AT THE FIRST BAPTIST
9:11:27AM CHURCH OF BRANDON.
9:11:28AM IT REALLY GIVES FAMILIES A SPECIAL SENSE OF PRIDE, AND IT'S
9:11:31AM A GREAT ENDEAVOR.
9:11:33AM THANK YOU.
9:11:33AM >>NORA PAINE: THANK YOU.
9:11:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THIS MORNING WE HAVE WITH US SOME SPECIAL
9:11:46AM PEOPLE FROM PEACE PROGRESSIVE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:11:53AM I ASK THAT THEY STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED.
9:11:55AM I ALSO WANT TO ASK THEM TO COME DOWN TO THE MIKE.
9:12:04AM PASTOR CAMP.
9:12:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN REDDICK.
9:12:14AM THIS IS OUR PEACE ACHIEVERS.
9:12:20AM WE THOUGHT TO GET THEM CIVICALLY ENGAGED AT A VERY EARLY AGE
9:12:24AM SO THEY COULD LEARN THE INNER WORKINGS OF CITY GOVERNMENT
9:12:28AM BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THEY PROBABLY WOULD ASPIRE TO BE
9:12:31AM SUCCESSORS IN THE YEARS TO COME.
9:12:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ONE OF THEM YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LIFT UP.
9:12:40AM STATE YOUR NAME AND WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO.
9:12:44AM >> MY NAME IS JOSIAH.
9:12:46AM AND MY SCHOOL IS MONTESSORI PREP.
9:12:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE NEXT ONE. JUST LOOK AT US.
9:12:59AM >> I'M HEZAKY.

9:13:07AM I GO TO WEST SHORE ELEMENTARY.
9:13:08AM >> MY NAME IS JOELLE WASHINGTON.
9:13:11AM I GO TO PREPARATORY SCHOOL.
9:13:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING FOR YOUR SPRING
9:13:16AM BREAK?
9:13:18AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:13:24AM >> STUDYING AND PREPARING FOR OUR FUTURE.
9:13:27AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:13:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY?
9:13:37AM >> COUNCILMAN, YOU HAVE BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO ALL OF US IN
9:13:41AM THE GREATER TAMPA BAY AREA.
9:13:42AM AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE
9:13:45AM COUNCILMEN FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU HAVE DONE IN THE CITY OF
9:13:48AM TAMPA UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF BOB BUCKHORN AND WHOEVER
9:13:51AM IS OUR NEXT MAYOR.
9:13:53AM WE PRAY THAT OUR CITY WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE BEST CITY IN
9:13:56AM THE CONTINENTAL USA.
9:13:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE THANK YOU.
9:14:00AM I KNOW YOU WILL BE MEETING WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE TODAY,
9:14:04AM INCLUDING OUTGOING MAYOR.
9:14:07AM WISH YOU WELL THERE.
9:14:08AM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:14:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANTED TO MENTION MY OFFICE DOES
9:14:11AM A THING CALLED THE KIDS' COUNCIL.

9:14:14AM WE INVITE SCHOOLS AND IF YOUR SCHOOL WANTS TO JOIN US, WE'LL
9:14:18AM GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
9:14:18AM WE INVITE YOUR CLASS TO CITY HALL, TO HERE, AND YOU GET TO
9:14:22AM MEET DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT PEOPLE.
9:14:24AM YOU MIGHT MEET THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
9:14:26AM YOU MIGHT MEET OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE CLERK, AND WE
9:14:30AM JUST GIVE YOU A RUN-DOWN OF HOW CITY COUNCIL WORKS JUST FOR
9:14:36AM AN UNDERSTANDING.
9:14:37AM SO IF IN THE FUTURE YOU WANT TO RUN, GET INVOLVED WITH
9:14:40AM OFFICE, AT LEAST YOU SEE HOW THINGS ARE AROUND HERE.
9:14:43AM MY AIDE CAN GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
9:14:46AM WE CAN GIVE IT TO YOUR TEACHER AND THEN WE ORGANIZE LIKE A
9:14:49AM FIELD TRIP TO COME DOWNTOWN.
9:14:51AM >> OKAY.
9:14:51AM WE'RE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN THAT AS WELL.
9:14:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD.
9:14:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:55AM >> THANK YOU VERY KINDLY.
9:14:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:15:00AM MR. SHELBY.
9:15:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:15:03AM GOOD MORNING.
9:15:03AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME,
9:15:08AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
9:15:11AM SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC

9:15:13AM HEARING.
9:15:14AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR A
9:15:17AM PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING
9:15:21AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:15:22AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:15:24AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS.
9:15:28AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:15:30AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS
9:15:34AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:15:37AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A STAFF MEMBER, BUT RATHER ISSUES
9:15:40AM DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:15:42AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:15:47AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:15:49AM THANK YOU.
9:15:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:15:51AM MY NAME IS MARTHA VILA.
9:15:55AM 3209 WEST SITKA STREET.
9:15:59AM BUT I COME TO YOU THIS MORNING NOT AT MARTHA VILA, BUT AS A
9:16:04AM PARTNER I HAD FOR 67 YEARS, HECTOR VILA.
9:16:09AM HECTOR APPEARED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL 14 YEARS AGO AND
9:16:13AM TELL YOU THE STORY OF HIMSELF AND HIS SIX BROTHERS.
9:16:16AM YES, SIX OTHER BROTHERS THAT LOVED THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH THEY
9:16:21AM WERE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIVES IN PROOF OF IT.
9:16:24AM FOR MANY YEARS, A VILA WAS DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY.
9:16:28AM ON JULY THE 2nd OF 2005, THESE THREE MARINES, TWO ARMY AND

9:16:34AM TWO NAVY BROTHERS WERE HONORED BY YOU AND WITH THE RAISING
9:16:38AM OF A FLAG AT 700 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IT BECAME THE VILA
9:16:42AM BROTHERS PARK.
9:16:44AM WOW, WHAT AN HONOR.
9:16:46AM A TRUE PATRIOTIC PARK OF RED SWINGS AND BLUE SLIDES FOR THIS
9:16:52AM COMMUNITY, OUR CITY AND EVEN PRIDE FOR OUR STATE.
9:16:56AM TODAY, BEAUTIFUL BLACK MARBLE MONUMENT CONTRIBUTED BY
9:16:59AM PRIVATE DONORS STANDS WITH A PICTURE IN SERVICE OF ALL THE
9:17:04AM SEVEN BROTHERS.
9:17:07AM IT STANDS GALLANTLY IN THE PARK.
9:17:09AM WITH GROWTH OF NEW HOUSES AND FAMILIES SURROUNDING THE PARK
9:17:13AM IN 2014, THEIR VOICES REPRESENTED BY RESTLESSNESS, SANDY
9:17:23AM SANCHEZ REPRESENTING ARMY GARDENS ASSOCIATION APPEARED
9:17:27AM BEFORE YOU, REQUESTED MUCH-NEEDED FUNDS FOR IMPROVEMENT OF
9:17:31AM THE PARK.
9:17:33AM IN 2017, THREE YEARS LATER, YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, ALLOTTED
9:17:40AM FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $300,000 FOR THE BATHROOMS, WATER
9:17:46AM FOUNTAINS, WASTE RECEPTACLES AND THINGS THAT WERE VERY, VERY
9:17:50AM NEEDED AT THE PARK.
9:17:51AM HOWEVER, AS OF THIS DAY, AND WE ARE NOW IN MARCH OF 2019,
9:17:58AM NONE OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, NOT EVEN STARTED.
9:18:01AM ON APRIL THE 2nd, WE'RE HAPPY TO LEARN THAT A
9:18:06AM RIBBON-CUTTING CEREMONY WILL TAKE PLACE AND HOPEFULLY IT
9:18:11AM WILL BE THE LONG-WAITED IMPROVEMENTS WILL FINALLY START.
9:18:14AM WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

9:18:17AM [BEEP]
9:18:23AM I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH A VOICE OF MANY REQUESTING THE
9:18:27AM PROPER FUNDS BE SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED FOR THE COMPLETION OF
9:18:31AM THIS ONE-OF-A-KIND PATRIOTIC PARK OF RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, A
9:18:36AM PARK FOR ALL TO SEE AND LEARN THAT FREEDOM DOES NOT COME
9:18:40AM FREE AND TO TEACH GENERATIONS TO COME TO VISIT THE PARK THAT
9:18:47AM WE SHOULD LOVE AND HONOR THE SACRIFICES MADE BY MANY FOR OUR
9:18:51AM FREEDOM.
9:18:52AM [BEEP]
9:18:53AM A PARK WORTHY FOR ALL WHO STAND BEFORE HER IN LIBERTY TO RUN
9:18:57AM AND PLAY.
9:18:57AM IN CONCLUSION, AS HECTOR WOULD HAVE SAID TO YOU, LET'S
9:19:01AM FINISH THE PARK NOW.
9:19:02AM TIME HAS PASSED AND SO HAVE FIVE OF THE SEVEN BROTHERS.
9:19:07AM ONLY TWO REMAIN NOW.
9:19:08AM LET'S NOT WAIT ANY LONGER --
9:19:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE?
9:19:13AM YOUR TIME IS UP.
9:19:14AM >> MY TIME IS UP?
9:19:16AM MAY I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND HONOR THOSE WHO
9:19:18AM DEFENDED OUR COUNTRY YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND WILL TOMORROW.
9:19:23AM PLEASE HOLD TIGHTLY TO THE WONDERFUL HONOR OF WHAT THIS PARK
9:19:27AM IS ALL ABOUT AND THE GLORY OF ITS FLAG.
9:19:31AM GOD BLESS THE PARK, AMERICA, AND ALL OF US.
9:19:34AM THANK YOU.

9:19:36AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
9:19:38AM MS. VILA, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
9:19:40AM >> THANK YOU.
9:19:40AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HATE TO ASK THIS, BUT HOW OLD ARE YOU?
9:19:43AM I HEARD A RUMOR ABOUT YOU THE OTHER DAY.
9:19:45AM >> I'M GOING TO BE 86.
9:19:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU'RE GOING TO BE 86.
9:19:48AM I HEARD YOU TOOK AN UBER OR A LYFT TO SUSAN VALDES' OFFICE.
9:19:55AM WAS THAT THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE TAKEN THAT?
9:19:57AM >> NO.
9:19:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HOPE MY MOTHER IS LISTENING BECAUSE I'VE
9:20:00AM BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE HER TO TAKE A LYFT DIFFERENT PLACES,
9:20:02AM AND TO SEE SOMEONE WHO IS 86 DO IT, IT IS A CREDIT.
9:20:06AM >> WHEN WE WERE AT THE VA HOSPITAL AT THE HOSPICE UNIT FOR
9:20:10AM 114 DAYS, I WAS THERE WITH HIM EVERY DAY AND NIGHT.
9:20:13AM I NEVER LEFT HIM.
9:20:16AM THAT'S WHY YOU NEVER SAW MUCH OF ME.
9:20:19AM I WAS WITH HIM.
9:20:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE SAW YOU QUITE A BIT.
9:20:22AM THE LAST TIME WE WERE AT THE PARK WHEN WE HAD THE LAST EVENT
9:20:25AM THERE.
9:20:25AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE IDEA ALIVE.
9:20:27AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIGILANCE.
9:20:28AM I KNOW HECTOR IS LOOKING DOWN ON YOU AS ARE THE REST OF HIS
9:20:32AM BROTHERS TO APPLAUD WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

9:20:34AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:20:35AM >> THANK EACH OF YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
9:20:37AM OH, WE DID PUT SOMETHING SO YOU COULD SEE IT.
9:20:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
9:20:59AM >> STAND IN LINE LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
9:21:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOLD IT, HOLD IT.
9:21:06AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:21:10AM SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
9:21:14AM NEXT.
9:21:17AM >> MENTESMOT.
9:21:20AM IT'S INTERESTING HOW THE HATE AND THE DISRESPECT IS SPREADED
9:21:29AM EQUALLY AMONGST THE CITIZENS.
9:21:32AM VERY INTERESTING.
9:21:33AM A SENIOR LADY IS SPEAKING, AND WE SAY WE CAN'T CALL ANYONE
9:21:44AM BY NAME AND THE PERSON DISRESPECTFULLY -- DISRESPECTFULLY,
9:21:54AM THE CITIZENS DON'T EVEN COME DOWN HERE.
9:21:57AM SOMEBODY DISRESPECTFULLY CUT HER OFF.
9:22:00AM THAT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL.
9:22:03AM THAT'S WHAT RICK ROSS SAY.
9:22:05AM THAT'S A RAPPER IF YOU DON'T KNOW.
9:22:06AM SO DISRESPECTFUL, SO HATEFUL.
9:22:09AM THE SAME PERSON WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL ANY NAMES, THAT
9:22:12AM TELLS SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT KISSING HIS BUTT.
9:22:15AM SO DISRESPECTFUL.
9:22:16AM BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY DOWN HERE.

9:22:19AM HE TOOK AFTER HIS MAYOR.
9:22:21AM THAT'S WHO HE TOOK AFTER.
9:22:22AM THEY CALL AFRICAN WOMEN BLACK BITCHES, AND THEY CALL FOR THE
9:22:27AM LYNCHING OF AN AFRICAN MAN.
9:22:29AM HE TOOK AFTER HIS MAYOR.
9:22:32AM DON'T REPRESENT DISTRICT 5, BUT BUSY TELLING PEOPLE TO SHUT
9:22:36AM UP, SIT DOWN, YOUR TIME'S UP.
9:22:40AM NONSENSE.
9:22:41AM AND THE CITIZENRY, EVERYONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T EVEN
9:22:47AM COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE YOU-ALL ALREADY SCARED THEM OFF WITH
9:22:50AM ARRESTS.
9:22:51AM YOU HAVE THE POLICE STANDING OUTSIDE.
9:22:52AM POLICE STANDING AT THE DOOR.
9:22:54AM YOU NEED YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS JUST TO SAY SOMETHING.
9:22:58AM IT'S A HATE OF THE GENERAL POPULATION AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
9:23:02AM AND WE SEE HOW THEY RUN IT.
9:23:04AM WE SEE HOW THE MAYOR ON TWITTER SENDING OUT NASTY, HATEFUL,
9:23:09AM RACIAL, RACIST MESSAGES, AND THEN COVERS IT UP BY SAYING
9:23:15AM SOMEONE HACKED INTO HIS ACCOUNT.
9:23:18AM WHO WANTS TO HACK INTO THAT CLOWN'S ACCOUNT.
9:23:21AM BOZO THE CLOWN, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HACK INTO HIS ACCOUNT
9:23:26AM FOR?
9:23:26AM WHAT WE NEED IS THE PERSON WHO REPRESENTS OUR DISTRICT,
9:23:29AM DISTRICT 5, THE DISTRICT WHERE I LIVE, THE DISTRICT WHERE
9:23:31AM MOST OF THE AFRICAN POPULATION RESIDES, THE DISTRICT THAT'S

9:23:35AM AFFECTED BY GENTRIFICATION AND OTHER THINGS THAT REALLY
9:23:40AM MEANS EXTERMINATION, THAT REALLY CALLS FOR GENOCIDE.
9:23:44AM THAT'S WHAT IT CALLS FOR.
9:23:46AM WE NEED A REPRESENTATIVE, NOT A TOKEN, NOT A DISRESPECTFUL
9:23:50AM TOKEN [BEEP]
9:23:52AM THAT DISRESPECTS THE CITIZENRY.
9:23:54AM WE NEED SOMEBODY TO STAND UP AND CALL THAT WE'RE 26% OF THE
9:23:58AM POPULATION.
9:23:58AM WE NEED SOMEBODY TO STAND UP AND SAY WE NEED 26% OF THIS
9:24:02AM CITY'S BUDGET.
9:24:04AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
9:24:05AM WE DON'T NEED A MAYOR THAT NOBODY UP THERE, GROWN FOLKS
9:24:09AM CAN'T PUT THE MAYOR IN CHECK.
9:24:10AM YOU ALL GOT LITTLE KIDS IN HERE AND SUPPOSED TO BE SETTING
9:24:13AM AN EXAMPLE, AND NOBODY CAN SAY, HEY, MAN, YOU DON'T CALL
9:24:18AM BLACK WOMEN BITCHES.
9:24:19AM YOU DON'T CALL FOR THE LYNCHING OF AN AFRICAN MAN.
9:24:22AM [BEEP]
9:24:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:24:30AM >> FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE LIVING RECORD, FOR THE WORLD AND
9:24:40AM FOR THE LIVING WORLD, I AM SOVEREIGN DESPOT KING JOHNNY
9:24:45AM BERNARD BOOF AND THE CAPITAL AND HEADQUARTERS IN TAMPA BAY,
9:24:51AM INDIAN VILLAGE -- FRANCHISE TAMPA BAY.
9:24:56AM THE YOUNG MAN THAT JUST CAME UP HERE BEFOREHAND, HE'S
9:25:00AM SPREADING A LOT OF HATE.

9:25:02AM HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
9:25:04AM THE WORLD RACE IMPLIES JOB, J-O-B.
9:25:09AM AIN'T NO BLACK AND WHITE.
9:25:10AM HE'S SPREADING LIES.
9:25:12AM I WATCHED THE BLACK MAN CHOKE A WHITE WOMAN OUT AND WATCH
9:25:16AM THE BLACK WOMEN LAUGH ABOUT IT.
9:25:18AM YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HATE, DON'T ACCEPT THEIR --
9:25:28AM OVER THERE IN AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, GOT ALL THIS GOING ON.
9:25:33AM THIS IS GOING ON BECAUSE SHIITES AND SUNNIS WON'T RETURN TO
9:25:39AM THEIR ORIGINAL ARAB WAY.
9:25:42AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ARAB THAT SAT NEXT TO MY ANCESTOR
9:25:46AM ABRAHAM AND NAMED THAT WELL THE SAME THING BEFORE WICKED
9:25:51AM RELIGION CAME OUT ON THE SCENE LIKE BOOK OF EZEKIEL,
9:25:55AM RELIGION CAUSING ALL THE PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT AND BRINGING
9:25:58AM NONE OF THEM IN AT ALL.
9:26:00AM OKAY.
9:26:01AM THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.
9:26:05AM INSANE OR EVIL.
9:26:06AM LOOK, MENTAL HEALTH.
9:26:10AM JUDICIAL REVIEW, YOUR WHOLE DARN SYSTEM BECAUSE WE DON'T
9:26:14AM OPERATE OFF FREUD AND LET KILLERS, LIKE CASEY ANTHONY AND
9:26:21AM RAMSAYS KILL THEIR CHILD.
9:26:23AM WE DON'T KILL CHILDREN IN AMERICA.
9:26:25AM I DON'T GIVE A DARN WHAT BRITAIN AND FALSE AFRICA THINKS
9:26:32AM THAT THEIR DEAL IS.

9:26:33AM WE DON'T NEED ALL THEIR BLACK AND WHITE HATE THAT THE
9:26:36AM SERVANTS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THEIR MASSES, TRYING TO TAKE
9:26:39AM OVER THEIR BOSSES, TRYING TO TAKE OVER THEIR GOVERNMENTS.
9:26:42AM WE KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS.
9:26:45AM WHY WE'RE HERE.
9:26:47AM THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
9:26:53AM YOU ALL MENTIONED YOU ALL DECIDE ON WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR
9:26:56AM BUSINESS.
9:26:57AM THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
9:26:59AM I HANDLE YOUR FAMILIES WHEN YOU GAIN ENOUGH TO COME AND
9:27:04AM FINALLY ASK FOR YOUR ACCOUNTS TO BE CREDITED AND STUFF.
9:27:08AM [BEEP] I THE CREDITOR WILL CREDIT YOU.
9:27:11AM BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP -- CHASING AFRICA AND EUROPEANS
9:27:20AM FRAUDULENT MONEY WHICH THEY ARE TRYING TO CHARGE YOU
9:27:23AM TRACKING WITH.
9:27:25AM I NEVER ASKED TO YOU SEND ANY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES
9:27:28AM HERE.
9:27:28AM YOU KNOW THAT THING HAPPENS ON YOU.
9:27:30AM -- DOESN'T HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE.
9:27:34AM CUT THAT CRAP OUT.
9:27:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:27:49AM TAMPA, CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS DIANA KLINE.
9:27:55AM I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR PREBORN NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
9:27:57AM BEING MURDERED EVERY WEEK IN TAMPA UNDER YOUR WATCH AND
9:28:00AM JURISDICTION.

9:28:02AM IT'S TIME TO END THIS BLOODSHED AND PUNISH THOSE WHO ARE
9:28:06AM MURDERING BABIES IN THE WOMB.
9:28:08AM I HAVE HERE AN OFFICIAL DIAGRAM THAT IS USED IN MEDICAL
9:28:14AM SCHOOLS TO TRAIN STUDENTS ON HOW TO MURDER BABIES IN THE
9:28:17AM WOMB.
9:28:17AM THEY START OUT BY TAKING A CANNULA, INSERTING IT THROUGH THE
9:28:21AM UTERUS WHERE THEY PUNCTURE THE BABY'S LIFE SUPPORT, TOTALLY
9:28:27AM CRUSH HIM.
9:28:28AM RIP HIS ARMS AND LEGS OFF WITH A HIGH-POWERED VACUUM.
9:28:32AM VERY, VERY BRUTAL DEATH.
9:28:35AM THEY TAKE THE CURETTE AND SCRAPE OUT THE REST OF THE
9:28:39AM REMAINS, AND THEN THEY HAVE AN ASSISTANT, THE KILLER HAS AN
9:28:45AM ASSISTANT THAT COUNTS THE BODY PARTS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL
9:28:49AM THE BABY IS ACCOUNTED FOR, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
9:28:52AM THEY HAVE TO PIECE THE BABY BACK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THEY
9:28:55AM GOT ALL THE BODY PARTS.
9:28:57AM THAT'S THE BRUTALITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TAMPA.
9:29:01AM OVER 200 TIMES A WEEK, BABIES ARE BEING MURDERED.
9:29:04AM YOU TAMPA COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A GOD-ORDAINED DUTY TO PRESERVE
9:29:12AM JUSTICE AND TO PUNISH EVIL BECAUSE ROE V. WADE IS NOT A LAW.
YOU HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO IGNORE ROE V. WADE, TO IGNORE
9:29:19AM IT AND ESTABLISH LAWS HERE IN TAMPA THAT WILL CRIMINALIZE
9:29:22AM THOSE WHO TAKE PART IN MURDERING A BABY IN THE WOMB.
9:29:26AM GOD'S WORD TELLS US THAT THE SENTENCE AGAINST AN EVIL DEED,
9:29:32AM IF NOT MOVED STEADILY, THAT THE HEART OF MAN IS FULLY SET TO

9:29:36AM DO EVIL.
9:29:37AM THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED ACROSS TAMPA AND IN THE COUNTRY IS
9:29:40AM THAT ONE IN FOUR WOMEN HAVE A HEART FULLY SET TO MURDER
9:29:44AM THEIR SON OR DAUGHTER IN THE WOMB, AND WE NEED TO CHANGE
9:29:46AM THIS BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE A GIFT FROM GOD.
9:29:49AM THEY NEED TO BE LOVED, NURTURED AND PROTECTED BECAUSE LOVE
9:29:52AM AND PROTECTION BEGINS IN THE WOMB.
9:29:55AM I WELCOME EACH OF YOU TO JOIN ME IN FRONT OF THE MURDER
9:29:58AM MILLS IN TAMPA, TO HELP RESCUE THE PREBORN FROM THE BRUTAL
9:30:02AM DEATH.
9:30:03AM THERE ARE LOTS OF RESOURCES THAT WOMEN HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT
9:30:05AM HERE IN TAMPA WHERE THEY ARE WITH CHILD.
9:30:08AM THEY CAN GET HELP.
9:30:10AM COME SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW HELPLESS THE BABIES ARE AND HOW
9:30:13AM YOU MUST INTERPOSE ON THEIR BEHALF.
9:30:16AM YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE MISSIONARY WORK THAT I DO --
9:30:21AM [BEEP]
9:30:22AM -- AT LOVE THE PREBORN.COM.
9:30:24AM THAT'S LOVE THE PREBORN.COM, AND PLEASE DO THAT.
9:30:29AM PLEASE TAKE THE TIME.
9:30:31AM GO TO MY WEBSITE.
9:30:31AM LOOK AT MY YouTube CHANNEL.
9:30:34AM SEE HOW I TALK TO CHILDREN.
9:30:36AM THESE YOUNG CHILDREN THAT WERE HERE EARLIER TODAY, THAT
9:30:39AM YOU'RE INSPIRING THEM, WE NEED YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN TO LEARN

9:30:42AM TO BECOME AN ABOLITIONIST, TO ABOLISH HUMAN ABORTION.
9:30:46AM THANK YOU.
9:30:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:30:52AM MY NAME ISABELLE TASSI.
9:30:58AM ACTUALLY, THE LETTER I AM ABOUT TO READ I HAD SENT TO EACH
9:31:01AM INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER BACK IN NOVEMBER.
9:31:02AM AND I NEVER HEARD FROM ANYONE, SO I DECIDED TO COME IN AND
9:31:06AM READ THE LETTER BECAUSE IT RAISES TWO IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT
9:31:06AM ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, AND I THINK WOULD ALSO BE VERY
9:31:08AM IMPORTANT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
9:31:11AM ONE OF THEM I THINK IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR ANY
9:31:13AM CANDIDATE WHO RUNS FOR OFFICE.
9:31:14AM DEAR COUNCIL MEMBER, I RECENTLY FOUND OUT ABOUT CITY
9:31:17AM ORDINANCE 2003-255 SECTION 2-602, WHEN POLITICAL SIGNS I HAD
9:31:24AM PLACED OUTSIDE MY FENCE WERE REMOVED BY THE CITY AND
9:31:27AM DESTROYED.
9:31:28AM I HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS WAS NOT PERMITTED.
9:31:30AM THE ORDINANCE SEEMS TO ME TO BE A BROAD GOVERNMENT
9:31:32AM OVERREACH.
9:31:33AM WHY SHOULDN'T PROPERTY OWNERS BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC SIGNS
9:31:36AM ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY, SAY 60 DAYS
9:31:40AM BEFORE AN ELECTION AND REMOVE IT TWO WEEKS AFTER AN
9:31:43AM ELECTION?
9:31:44AM FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FENCES, PLACING SIGNS IN ONE'S FRONT YARD
9:31:48AM VASTLY LIMITS THEIR EXPOSURE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

9:31:51AM PROPERTY OWNERS GENERALLY MAINTAIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT
9:31:54AM OF THEIR HOMES OR BUSINESSES.
9:31:55AM I KNOW THAT I ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS MOW THE LAWN ON MY
9:31:58AM RIGHT-OF-WAY, PULL WEEDS AND ALSO PICK UP TRASH THAT SOMEONE
9:32:01AM DROPS, CANS, PLASTIC BOTTLES, ET CETERA, OR PAPERS THAT THE
9:32:04AM WIND BLOWS ON TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
9:32:06AM WHY SHOULDN'T A HOMEOWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER BE ABLE TO HAVE
9:32:08AM A POLITICAL SIGN OR A FEW IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME OR BUSINESS
9:32:12AM ABOUT 60 DAYS BEFORE AN ELECTION.
9:32:14AM FOR THOSE OF US WITHOUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR BILLBOARDS
9:32:16AM OR MILLIONS FOR TV ADS, IT'S A WAY TO ADVERTISE YOUR
9:32:19AM CANDIDATE OR CAUSE AND TO EXERCISE FREE SPEECH RIGHTS.
9:32:23AM CAN'T AN EXCEPTION BE CARVED OUT OF THIS ONEROUS ORDINANCE
9:32:27AM DURING A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN PRIOR TO ELECTION DAY.
9:32:30AM I DON'T SEE WHAT WOULD BE THE HARM IN THAT.
9:32:31AM SECOND MAJOR ISSUE I HAVE, I AM REQUESTING THAT THE CITY NOT
9:32:36AM RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO, QUOTE,
9:32:39AM UNQUOTE, MAINTAIN PLANNED PARK ADJACENT TO THE UNIVERSITY.
9:32:43AM THE CITY SHOULD MAINTAIN IT AND HAVE CONTROL OF COORDINATING
9:32:46AM DATES FOR EVENTS AT THE PARK, NOT UT.
9:32:49AM AS THE CREATOR OF TAMPA BAY VEG FEST IN EARLY 2010, I WENT
9:32:54AM LOOKING FOR VENUES FOR THE INAUGURAL EVENT TO TAKE PLACE IN
9:32:57AM OCTOBER OF 2010.
9:32:58AM I LOOKED AT CITY PARKS AND CHOSE PLANT PARK AS MY FIRST
9:33:01AM OPTION, A BEAUTIFUL PARK ON THE RIVER WITH SHADE TREES AND

9:33:04AM CONVENIENTLY LOCATED.
9:33:05AM I CONTACTED THE PERSON AT U.T. TO CHOOSE A DATE FOR THE
9:33:08AM EVENT.
9:33:09AM I CHOSE ONE SATURDAY IN THE FALL.
9:33:11AM I WAS TOLD THAT DATE WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
9:33:13AM I CHOSE ANOTHER SATURDAY AND WAS TOLD THAT DATE WAS ALSO NOT
9:33:16AM AVAILABLE.
9:33:16AM THEN I ASKED FOR ANY SATURDAY IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, OR
9:33:20AM NOVEMBER.
9:33:20AM MIND YOU, THIS WAS NEARLY AN ENTIRE YEAR -- [BEEP]
9:33:24AM -- BEFORE THE EVENT TOOK PLACE.
9:33:26AM I WAS TOLD NO DATES WERE AVAILABLE BECAUSE I HAD TO KEEP THE
9:33:30AM DATES OPEN FOR ANY UNIVERSITY EVENTS THAT MAY OCCUR.
9:33:33AM I REALIZED IT WAS A SHAM.
9:33:34AM THE UNIVERSITY CAN DENY USAGE TO ANYONE SO THEY CAN IN
9:33:37AM ESSENCE USE THE CITY PARK AS THEIR OWN PRIVATE PARK.
9:33:39AM THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
9:33:40AM THIS ARRANGEMENT, WHICH I WAS TOLD WAS A 50-YEAR CONTRACT
9:33:44AM WHICH BEGAN SOMETIME IN THE 1970s AND MY GUESS IS THAT IT
9:33:48AM VIOLATED FLORIDA'S GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE LAWS, LIKELY
9:33:50AM ENTERED INTO A SMOKE-FILLED BACK ROOM NEEDS TO END.
9:33:54AM [BEEP]
9:33:55AM ONCE THE 50-YEAR CONTRACT IS OVER, IF NOT SOONER --
9:33:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.
9:34:00AM >> I JUST WANTED TO FINISH MY SENTENCE.

9:34:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:34:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHO TOLD YOU ALL THIS?
9:34:10AM >> IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA WHEN I
9:34:12AM CALLED.
9:34:13AM I WAS TOLD THAT SINCE THE CITY DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE PARK, I
9:34:17AM HAD TO CALL THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
9:34:18AM IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY HAD DESIGNATED AS THE CONTACT
9:34:21AM PERSON TO COORDINATE THE DATE FOR AN EVENT TO RESERVE THE
9:34:25AM PARK.
9:34:25AM AN EMPLOYEE THERE.
9:34:30AM THANK YOU.
9:34:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:34:36AM I'M CJ ROBERTS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY
9:34:39AM CENTER.
9:34:40AM I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS OUR ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT FOR ITEM 4,
9:34:44AM THE RENAMING OF OLD WATER STREET TO WATER STREET.
9:34:48AM THAT IS THE STREET THAT RUNS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR BUILDING.
9:34:51AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND THE SPP TEAM.
9:34:56AM THEY HAVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN SHOWN A REAL SENSITIVITY TO
9:34:58AM THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:34:59AM THAT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE.
9:35:01AM I THANK THEM FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
9:35:03AM TODAY.
9:35:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
9:35:10AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.

9:35:11AM MY NAME IS BILL WICKETT.
9:35:13AM I WORK WITH THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING AND THE AMALIE ARENA.
9:35:21AM I'M HERE TO STRONGLY SUPPORT ITEM NUMBER 4 IN THE RENAMING
9:35:25AM OF OLD WATER STREET TO WATER STREET AGAIN ON BEHALF OF THE
9:35:29AM TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING AND AMALIE ARENA.
9:35:38AM THANK YOU.
9:35:38AM >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:35:39AM MY NAME IS RON MCANAUGH.
9:35:39AM I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE TAMPA MARRIOTT WATERSIDE.
9:35:42AM LIKE THE TWO PREVIOUS GENTLEMEN, I WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT
9:35:46AM FOR ITEM 4 OF CHANGING THE NAME FROM OLD WATER STREET TO
9:35:51AM WATER STREET.
9:35:52AM THANK YOU.
9:35:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:35:53AM I'M MICHAEL KILGORE, CHIEF MARKETING OFFICER OF THE COLUMBIA
9:35:56AM RESTAURANT GROUP.
9:35:58AM ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO
9:36:01AM SUPPORT THE NAME CHANGE.
9:36:03AM WE HAVE A CAFE AT THE HISTORY CENTER.
9:36:04AM WHILE WE REALLY RESPECT HISTORY, WE ALSO EMBRACE CHANGE AND
9:36:08AM THIS CHANGE DOES BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
9:36:11AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
9:36:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:36:14AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS?
9:36:17AM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR THE PUBLIC -- FROM

9:36:22AM THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
9:36:25AM SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS, ITEM NUMBER 4,
9:36:31AM MR. COHEN.
9:36:33AM WHY DON'T YOU READ THAT?
9:36:34AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:36:36AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
9:36:40AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA RENAMING
9:36:43AM AND DESIGNATING THAT CERTAIN PORTION OF OLD WATER STREET
9:36:46AM EXTENDING FROM SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET TO CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
9:36:49AM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, SO
9:36:52AM THAT IT WILL BE KNOWN AS WATER STREET; REPEALING ALL
9:36:55AM ORDINANCE IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:36:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:36:59AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:01AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:37:03AM THOSE OPPOSED?
9:37:07AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
9:37:11AM APRIL 18, 2019, AT 9:30 A.M.
9:37:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 6, MR. MANISCALCO.
9:37:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
9:37:21AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
9:37:23AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING A
9:37:25AM REVISION TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 16
9:37:28AM (PARKS AND RECREATION); AMENDING SECTION 16-91, LIST OF
9:37:32AM DEDICATED PARKS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

9:37:35AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
9:37:37AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:37:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:37:41AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
9:37:44AM APRIL 18, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
9:37:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:37:48AM WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE,
9:37:50AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:37:53AM MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE ITEMS 7 THROUGH 13.
9:37:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:57AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:37:58AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:38:00AM ALL RIGHT.
9:38:00AM PARKS AND RECREATION, MR. MANISCALCO.
9:38:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I MOVE ITEMS 14 THROUGH 20.
9:38:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:38:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:38:09AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:38:10AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:38:12AM OPPOSED?
9:38:13AM OKAY.
9:38:14AM PUBLIC WORKS, MR. MANISCALCO.
9:38:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 35.
9:38:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

9:38:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:38:22AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:38:23AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:38:24AM THOSE OPPOSED?
9:38:25AM ALL RIGHT.
9:38:26AM WE GO TO FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. COHEN.
9:38:28AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:38:29AM I MOVE ITEMS 36 THROUGH 39.
9:38:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:38:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:38:34AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:38:35AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:38:37AM YES, SIR.
9:38:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FOR NUMBER 36, IF YOU
9:38:42AM COULD READ THE TITLE IN FRONT OF YOU.
9:38:44AM >>HARRY COHEN: THE TITLE SAYS I MOVE A RESOLUTION BEING
9:38:46AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, RESOLUTION
9:38:48AM AMENDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE 1-B-1 GOVERNING MEETINGS OF
9:38:52AM THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF TAMPA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
9:38:55AM DATE.
9:38:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
9:38:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:38:59AM BUILDING AND ZONING, MR. VIERA.
9:39:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE ITEMS 40 THROUGH
9:39:05AM 54.

9:39:06AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:39:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:39:08AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
9:39:09AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:39:11AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:39:13AM OPPOSED?
9:39:14AM WE'LL GO TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, MR. SUAREZ.
9:39:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:39:16AM I MOVE ITEMS 55 THROUGH 58, AND ITEMS 62 THROUGH 64.
9:39:23AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:39:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:39:27AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:39:28AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:39:30AM OPPOSED?
9:39:31AM OKAY.
9:39:31AM ITEM NUMBER 65 --
9:39:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. CHAIR, I MOVE NUMBER 65 AND SET IT AS A
9:39:38AM PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 16, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
9:39:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:39:46AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:39:48AM AYE.
9:39:49AM OPPOSED?
9:39:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP ITEMS 66
9:39:54AM THROUGH 70 FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:39:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY

9:39:59AM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:40:00AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:02AM OPPOSED?
9:40:02AM ALL RIGHT.
9:40:03AM 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER 66 ANYONE HERE FOR THAT?
9:40:14AM >>GINA GRIMES: GINA GRIMES WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL WARD
9:40:17AM HENDERSON REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER IN THIS CASE.
9:40:19AM THIS IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FROM R-35 TO CMU-35 ON NORTH
9:40:25AM A.
9:40:26AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:40:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:40:29AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 66?
9:40:33AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:40:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:40:35AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:40:37AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:39AM OPPOSED?
9:40:39AM MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 66?
9:40:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 66.
9:40:46AM YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:40:47AM ITEM NUMBER 66, FINAL NUMBER PA18-17.
9:40:51AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
9:40:54AM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
9:40:58AM LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 4619
9:41:02AM NORTH A STREET, FROM RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35) TO COMMUNITY

9:41:07AM MIXED USE-35 (CMU-35); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
9:41:12AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
9:41:15AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:41:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:41:18AM SECONDED BY MR. VIERA.
9:41:19AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION -- I'M SORRY.
9:41:25AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:41:31AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CAPIN BEING
9:41:33AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
9:41:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:41:35AM ITEM 67 TO 70, IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING ON ANY ONE OF THOSE
9:41:40AM ITEMS, 67 THROUGH 70, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN.
9:41:46AM [ OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK ]
9:41:55AM >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:41:58AM ITEMS 67 AND 68 ARE BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
9:42:02AM CORRECTED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK.
9:42:05AM STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
9:42:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:42:07AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:42:08AM ALL RIGHT.
9:42:09AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 67?
9:42:13AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, COUNCIL.
9:42:14AM I REPRESENTED THIS CASE BEFORE YOU.
9:42:16AM WE MET ALL OF THE CRITERIA REQUESTED BY THE CITY AND REVISED
9:42:19AM THE SITE PLANS ACCORDINGLY.

9:42:20AM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
9:42:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
9:42:25AM ITEM NUMBER 67?
9:42:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:42:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:42:30AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:42:32AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:42:33AM MR. VIERA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 67?
9:42:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
9:42:39AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
9:42:41AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2) FOR
9:42:44AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES -- RESTAURANT (CONSUMPTION ON
9:42:48AM PREMISES ONLY) AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
9:42:51AM REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT -- BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR --
9:42:54AM ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 217
9:42:58AM SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
9:43:01AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3; PROVIDING THAT ALL
9:43:04AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
9:43:07AM REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2007-98; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
9:43:11AM DATE, AND TO INCLUDE THE REVISIONS SPECIFIED.
9:43:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
9:43:14AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:43:15AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:43:20AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CAPIN BEING
9:43:23AM ABSENT AT VOTE.

9:43:24AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:43:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 68.
9:43:27AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 68?
9:43:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. COUNCIL.
9:43:36AM I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 68.
9:43:40AM ALL ITEMS TURNED IN ACCORDINGLY, AND WE REQUEST APPROVAL.
9:43:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONER?
9:43:46AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 68?
9:43:48AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:43:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:43:52AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:43:53AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:43:55AM MR. SUAREZ, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 68?
9:43:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:43:59AM I PRESENT ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
9:44:02AM ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2) FOR ALCOHOLIC
9:44:05AM BEVERAGE SALES -- RESTAURANT (CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY)
9:44:09AM AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
9:44:12AM CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1001 NORTH
9:44:15AM MacDILL AVENUE, SUITE A, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
9:44:19AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3; PROVIDING THAT ALL
9:44:21AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
9:44:24AM REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 7529-A; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
9:44:28AM DATE.
9:44:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.

9:44:30AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:44:32AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:44:38AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CAPIN BEING
9:44:40AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
9:44:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 70, ANYONE HERE FOR
9:44:45AM ITEM NUMBER 70?
9:44:47AM >> JIMMY COOK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:44:50AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS ORDINANCE.
9:44:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:44:53AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 70?
9:44:58AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:44:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, THERE'S A NOTE FOR A CONTINUANCE ON
9:45:03AM HERE.
9:45:03AM IS THAT BEING HONORED?
9:45:06AM >> THAT'S ON 69.
9:45:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M SORRY.
9:45:08AM YOU'RE ON 70.
9:45:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN, SECONDED
9:45:14AM BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:45:15AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:45:17AM OPPOSED?
9:45:18AM MR. COHEN, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 70.
9:45:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE AN
9:45:23AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
9:45:25AM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING

9:45:28AM A RIGHT-OF-WAY/ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF KEYES AVENUE, NORTH
9:45:32AM OF WARREN AVENUE, EAST OF OLA AVENUE AND WEST OF HIGHLAND
9:45:35AM AVENUE IN WARREN & KEYES SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE
9:45:40AM CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA THE SAME BEING
9:45:43AM MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
9:45:46AM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
9:45:49AM RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING
9:45:51AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:45:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
9:45:54AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:45:55AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:46:01AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CAPIN BEING
9:46:03AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
9:46:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:46:05AM LET'S GO BACK TO 69.
9:46:07AM CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT?
9:46:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CONTINUE, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO
9:46:11AM APRIL 4, 2019 AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING.
9:46:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:46:17AM OPPOSED.
9:46:18AM WE HAVE A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE 10:30, SO I'LL GO TO STAFF
9:46:22AM REPORTS.
9:46:23AM WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
9:46:29AM ITEM NUMBER 74 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:46:40AM >>CHUCK WEBER: CHUCK WEBER, WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

9:46:41AM THIS ITEM IS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF AGING WATER MAINS AND
9:46:46AM SOME MAINS THAT ARE UNDERSIZED.
9:46:47AM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:46:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO QUESTIONS.
9:46:51AM JUST THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NECESSARY AND
9:46:54AM THAT LAST YEAR ALONE, IF I REMEMBER, THE FIGURES YOU AND I
9:46:57AM TALKED ABOUT, ONE WATER LINE BREAKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:47:00AM JUST IN ONE YEAR.
9:47:02AM >>CHUCK WEBER: YES, AND THEY ARE INCREASING.
9:47:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL COMMENT.
9:47:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
9:47:11AM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, THIS IS JUST --
9:47:14AM HOW MANY WATER MAINS DO YOU THINK THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP
9:47:16AM ALLEVIATE OF THE NUMBER THAT MR. MIRANDA JUST MENTIONED?
9:47:20AM >>CHUCK WEBER: WELL, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2200 MILES OF
9:47:26AM PIPE.
9:47:26AM THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS REPLACING A LITTLE OVER 18 MILES.
9:47:29AM SO THAT REPRESENTS 1% OF OUR TOTAL DISTRIBUTION MAINS.
9:47:35AM AND 1% IS 1/100th IN THE AVERAGE LIFE OF OUR MAINS IS 100
9:47:42AM YEARS.
9:47:42AM SO THIS IS THE AMOUNT -- THIS REPRESENTS THE AMOUNT OF MAINS
9:47:44AM WE SHOULD BE REPLACING EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR
9:47:47AM INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO SNUFF.
9:47:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE INCREDIBLY PREPARED
9:47:54AM FOR THAT OR YOU'VE BEEN ANSWERING THE QUESTION FOR A LONG

9:47:56AM TIME.
9:47:56AM >>CHUCK WEBER: WELL, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ANSWER IT.
9:47:59AM I'VE BEEN STUDYING IT A LONG TIME.
9:48:01AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU SAID 2200 MILES AND THIS IS 18 MILES.
9:48:04AM AND YOU SAY THAT'S 1%?
9:48:05AM >>CHUCK WEBER: YES, ROUGHLY.
9:48:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IS MY MATH WRONG?
9:48:09AM IF YOU'RE THE ENGINEER IN CHARGE, WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
9:48:12AM IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 1%.
9:48:14AM >>CHUCK WEBER: YEAH, IT DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL THE MAINS, BUT
9:48:17AM THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE -- THIS PROJECT IS RAMPING UP TO
9:48:21AM WHERE WE ARE REPLACING ROUGHLY 1% OF OUR MAINS EVERY YEAR.
9:48:27AM WE NEED TO BE HEADED TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION IN ORDER TO
9:48:31AM MAINTAIN REPLACING THE PROJECTS -- REPLACING THE MAINS
9:48:34AM BEFORE THEY REACH THE END OF THEIR LIFE.
9:48:36AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TERRIFIC.
9:48:36AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:48:37AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:48:38AM THANKS, CHAIR.
9:48:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME LINES, THE TOTAL AMOUNT
9:48:41AM NEEDED, IF YOU'RE HOLDING ON, NOT WITH AN M, WITH B.
9:48:45AM $3.2 BILLION.
9:48:46AM AND IF YOU TAKE IT OUT FOR 20 YEARS, $3.7 BILLION.
9:48:50AM I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR STARTING IT.
9:48:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

9:48:57AM OKAY.
9:48:57AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
9:48:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COHEN TO MOVE
9:49:03AM THE RESOLUTION.
9:49:03AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:49:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:49:05AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:49:06AM OKAY.
9:49:07AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:49:08AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 75 FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
9:49:13AM >> HELLO.
9:49:13AM RACHAEL PETERSON WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON ITEM 75.
9:49:18AM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT ITEM 75 IS A REPORT ON THE
9:49:23AM HERETIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S FORMAL REVIEW OF THE
9:49:26AM EXISTING TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
9:49:32AM ACTION TAKEN TODAY ON ITEM 75 WILL IMPACT ALL PROPERTIES
9:49:36AM SUBJECT TO THE HEIGHT STANDARDS IN THE DISTRICT GOING
9:49:38AM FORWARD, NOT JUST THE PROPERTY AT 2723 NORTH MORGAN STREET.
9:49:44AM BEFORE I PROVIDE WITH YOU SOME SAMPLE MOTIONS, I WANTED TO
9:49:48AM GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE HISTORY OF
9:49:50AM THIS ITEM.
9:49:51AM IN RESPONSE TO CITY COUNCIL'S REQUEST THAT THE HISTORIC
9:49:55AM PRESERVATION COMMISSION FORMALLY REVIEW THE FENCE HEIGHT
9:49:59AM STANDARD, STAFF COMMENCED THE SECTION 27-264B CITY OF TAMPA
9:50:05AM CODE PROCESS THAT GOVERNS CHANGES TO EXISTING DESIGN

9:50:10AM GUIDELINES.
9:50:11AM SPECIFICALLY, STAFF SENT A FORMAL NOTICE IN DECEMBER OF THE
9:50:15AM HPC'S JANUARY 15, 2019 PUBLIC MEETING.
9:50:20AM THE NOTICE WAS SENT BY U.S. MAIL TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN
9:50:24AM THE LOCAL TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT, ACCORDING TO THE
9:50:28AM LATEST AD VALOREM TAX RECORD.
9:50:31AM ON JANUARY 15, 2019, PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED BY THE
9:50:35AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, AND STAFF WAS DIRECTED PER
9:50:38AM CODE TO SECURE COMMENTS FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
9:50:41AM COMMISSION.
9:50:42AM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MET MARCH 6th, 2019,
9:50:46AM AND AFTER HEARING PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE ARC RECOMMENDED THAT
9:50:49AM THE DESIGN GUIDELINES REMAIN THE SAME.
9:50:52AM ON MARCH 12th, 2019, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
9:50:56AM MET AND AFTER RECEIVING THE ARC AND PUBLIC COMMENTS,
9:51:00AM UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED A MOTION WHEREBY THE HPC RECOMMENDS TO
9:51:05AM CITY COUNCIL THAT THE EXISTING FENCE STANDARDS -- AND I'M
9:51:08AM READING THE MOTION, BUT I HAVE A COPY OF IT AND I'LL GIVE
9:51:11AM THAT TO YOU AS WELL -- THEIR MOTION WAS THAT THEY RECOMMEND
9:51:14AM TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THE EXISTING FENCE STANDARD OF THE
9:51:18AM TAMPA HEIGHTS DESIGN GUIDELINES BE UPHELD AND NO CHANGES
9:51:22AM MADE BASED ON OUTSTANDING SUPPORT FROM THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
9:51:26AM COMMUNITY AND STAFF OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DIVISION
9:51:29AM WHO INDICATED THAT THIS PARTICULAR FEATURE CONTRIBUTES TO
9:51:32AM THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.

9:51:36AM SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND GET YOU COPIES OF THE MOTION THAT
9:51:42AM WERE MADE BY BOTH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND
9:51:46AM THE ARC.
9:51:47AM AND ALSO A COPY OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS DESIGN GUIDELINES,
9:51:53AM WHERE I HAD TAKEN THE RELEVANT FENCE STANDARD SECTION THERE.
9:52:05AM AND THEN TO ADD TO YOUR.
9:52:17AM TODAY YOU MAY EITHER UPHOLD THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION'S
9:52:20AM RECOMMENDATION OF NO CHANGE OR YOU CAN MOVE TO CHANGE THE
9:52:23AM TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES FENCE
9:52:26AM HEIGHT STANDARDS SO THAT IT CONFORMS WITH CITY CODE.
9:52:29AM IN OTHER WORDS, REMOVING ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR THAT PART
9:52:33AM OF THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT FENCE HEIGHTS.
9:52:35AM AND I PROVIDED YOU, AS I SAID, WITH SAMPLE MOTIONS TO EITHER
9:52:39AM OF THE OPTIONS, WHICHEVER SHOULD BE YOUR PLEASURE.
9:52:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
9:52:47AM WAS ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO GRANDFATHER THOSE PROPERTY
9:52:51AM OWNERS THAT HAVE ALREADY IN VIOLATION OF THE FENCING
9:52:56AM GUIDELINES?
9:52:57AM BECAUSE THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, YOU SHOWED MORE THAN
9:53:02AM ONE THAT WAS IN VIOLATION.
9:53:03AM SOMEBODY SHOWED SOME PICTURES OF MORE THAN ONE.
9:53:07AM SO I WANT TO KNOW, HAVE THOSE PEOPLE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN?
9:53:14AM DID YOU GIVE ANY CONSIDERATION IN THAT AND START A NEW
9:53:21AM VERSUS THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND, THEREFORE,
9:53:24AM THEY HAVE TO MEET THESE NEW BASED ON WHAT WE DO HERE TODAY?

9:53:28AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
9:53:32AM AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER, TRY TO ANSWER THAT.
9:53:35AM ESSENTIALLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE
9:53:38AM ESSENTIALLY NONCOMPLIANT, BUT ARE NOT IN VIOLATION BECAUSE
9:53:42AM THEY WERE -- THOSE FENCES EXISTED PRIOR TO THE HISTORIC
9:53:45AM DISTRICT BEING ESTABLISHED.
9:53:47AM SO WE HAVE PHOTO DOCUMENTATION OF WHEN THE DISTRICT WAS
9:53:50AM ESTABLISHED TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT POINT.
9:53:53AM TO MY KNOWLEDGE IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE
9:53:58AM IDENTIFIED TEN PROPERTIES THAT WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE THAT
9:54:02AM ACTUALLY ERECTED FENCES WITHOUT A CERTIFICATE OF
9:54:10AM APPROPRIATENESS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
9:54:11AM OF THOSE TEN, ALL TEN OF THOSE WERE PUT INTO VIOLATION, AND
9:54:16AM SOME OF THOSE HAVE COME INTO COMPLIANCE BY RELOCATING THEIR
9:54:19AM FENCE.
9:54:20AM I DON'T HAVE ANY SITUATIONS RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'VE
9:54:24AM ESSENTIALLY EXEMPTED SOMEBODY FROM THE ORDINANCES.
9:54:27AM WE'VE BEEN APPLYING THE ORDINANCES AND SEEKING COMPLIANCE
9:54:31AM THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
9:54:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK ONE OTHER FINAL QUESTION.
9:54:35AM THAT IS, COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PROPERTY OWNERS, TAMPA
9:54:45AM HEIGHTS BEING DESIGNATED THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION PEOPLE
9:54:51AM -- PROCEDURES, HOW MANY PROPERTY OWNERS KNEW THAT ONCE IT
9:54:59AM BECAME HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THAT THEY COULDN'T PUT A FENCE
9:55:04AM UP OVER A CERTAIN HEIGHT?

9:55:08AM ANYONE EDUCATED ABOUT THAT?
9:55:09AM WERE THEY GIVEN RULES OF PROCEDURES, EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN
9:55:15AM THAT COMMUNITY?
9:55:15AM WERE THEY GIVEN RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT SAY YOU CANNOT,
9:55:19AM BECAUSE YOU'RE HISTORIC DESIGNATION NOW, YOU CANNOT PUT A
9:55:24AM FENCE UP OVER SIX FEET TALL OR FOUR FEET TALL, WERE THEY
9:55:29AM GIVEN THAT INFORMATION?
9:55:30AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: YES, SIR.
9:55:32AM THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT OCCURRED DURING
9:55:37AM THE CREATION OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT THE
9:55:40AM GUIDELINES WERE ACTUALLY CREATED BY SUBCOMMITTEES OF THE
9:55:44AM NEIGHBORHOOD WHO CRAFTED THE REGULATIONS INCLUDING THE
9:55:48AM FENCES AND OTHER REGULATIONS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
9:55:51AM SO I BELIEVE THE ONES THAT WERE LIVING IN THAT PARTICULAR
9:55:57AM AREA IN 2000, WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF IT BOTH THROUGH
9:56:02AM MAILED NOTICE AND POSTING SIGNS AND NEIGHBORHOOD DISCUSSIONS
9:56:06AM AS WELL AS MEDIA COVERAGE.
9:56:09AM THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ARTICLES IN THE PAPER ABOUT THAT AS
9:56:11AM WELL.
9:56:11AM SO SPECIFICALLY GIVING YOU A NUMBER, I'M NOT SURE WHO IS
9:56:18AM ENGAGING IN THAT PROCESS VERSUS JUST SORT OF LETTING OTHERS
9:56:21AM TAKE CONTROL OF IT.
9:56:23AM BUT EVERY DESIGNATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA GOES THROUGH A
9:56:29AM PUBLIC NOTICE PROCESS, AND IT'S REQUIRED THAT THERE ARE A
9:56:32AM NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL.

9:56:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IF I LIVE THERE AND IF I DIDN'T ATTEND THE
9:56:42AM MEETING, HOW WOULD I BE NOTIFIED?
9:56:46AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER IN
9:56:50AM ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S SITE.
9:56:53AM YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF LETTERS.
9:56:54AM YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED SOME LETTERS THROUGH THE HISTORIC
9:56:56AM PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND THEN OTHER LETTERS WHEN IT WAS
9:56:58AM ADOPTED TO CITY COUNCIL, TWO ADDITIONAL LETTERS.
9:57:02AM THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAILED NOTICE AND POSTED SIGNS IN THE
9:57:06AM NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
9:57:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:57:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
9:57:13AM I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT TO STAY THE WAY IT IS.
9:57:29AM I REALLY DON'T.
9:57:30AM THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IN TRANSITION, AND PEOPLE
9:57:38AM NEED TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY.
9:57:43AM THOSE GUIDELINES ARE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, MAYBE HYDE PARK, BUT
9:57:48AM THE HEIGHTS IS IN TRANSITION, AND I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD
9:57:56AM CONFORM THE FENCE HEIGHT TO CODE.
9:57:59AM THAT'S MY FEELING.
9:58:01AM I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL HAS TO SAY ABOUT
9:58:05AM THAT.
9:58:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
9:58:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:58:08AM I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE THE WAY IT IS TODAY AND I WILL VOTE

9:58:12AM TO UPHOLD.
9:58:13AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT NOT ONLY HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS BUT YOU
9:58:16AM LOOK AT ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, WEST TAMPA THAT MEANS ALL OF THEM,
9:58:20AM WHAT I SEE MORE AND MORE IS THAT NOBODY SPEAKS TO EACH
9:58:23AM OTHER.
9:58:24AM EVERYBODY HAS GOT A CELL PHONE.
9:58:27AM EVERYBODY HAS GOT DIRECT TV OR DISH TV OR SPECTRUM OR
9:58:31AM FRONTIER OR WHATEVER.
9:58:32AM ROKU.
9:58:35AM DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYBODY OUT.
9:58:37AM ONCE YOU START THAT, AND I SEE MORE AND MORE OF THIS
9:58:41AM EVERYWHERE I GO.
9:58:42AM YOU SEE A WHITE FENCE, SIX-FOOT TALL PLASTIC, CAN'T SEE
9:58:47AM THROUGH IT.
9:58:47AM IT GOES AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
9:58:49AM BUILT A HOUSE OR BUY A HOUSE.
9:58:51AM FIRST THING THEY DO, PUT A BIG FENCE.
9:58:53AM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING
9:58:56AM SUBCONSCIOUSLY.
9:58:58AM THAT'S JUST ME MAYBE.
9:59:01AM THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE BOTHERED WITH ANYTHING.
9:59:04AM DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE.
9:59:05AM DON'T WANT ANYBODY COME SEE THEM.
9:59:08AM HOWEVER THAT COMES WITH PROBLEMS.
9:59:09AM PROBLEMS THAT IF SOMEBODY TRIED TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGALLY,

9:59:14AM THEY CAN HIDE BACK THERE AND YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.
9:59:17AM PROBLEM FOR BOTH, INDIVIDUALS WHO MAYBE TRYING TO DO
9:59:22AM SOMETHING AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO FIND OUT
9:59:24AM WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:59:25AM YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH A PLASTIC FENCE, SO EVERYBODY IS IN
9:59:29AM DANGER.
9:59:29AM IF YOU HAD A CHAIN-LINK FENCE, YOU COULD SEE THROUGH IT, BUT
9:59:33AM YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH A PLASTIC FENCE.
9:59:37AM I'M NOT AGAINST PRIVACY RIGHTS.
9:59:38AM I'M FOR PRIVACY RIGHTS.
9:59:40AM BUT WHEN YOU GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE
9:59:42AM LIVING IN A JAIL CELL, JUST MUCH BIGGER THAN A JAIL CELL,
9:59:47AM COURTYARD OF A JAIL CELL AND YOU CAN'T GET IN AND CAN'T GET
9:59:50AM OUT, WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE ARE YOU SAYING TO YOURSELF.
9:59:54AM THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:59:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
9:59:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A FEW COMMENTS OR A QUESTION.
10:00:00AM SHOULD WE MOVE TO UPHOLD THE HPC RECOMMENDATION OF NO
10:00:04AM CHANGES FOR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS DESIGN GUIDELINE -- TAMPA
10:00:07AM HEIGHTS BEING THE OLD -- ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN
10:00:11AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HISTORICALLY, I THINK.
10:00:13AM SO IF WE MOVE TO UPHOLD, WE LEAVE IT AS IS IN TERMS OF A
10:00:19AM HISTORIC AREA WHERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PUT A NEW FENCE
10:00:22AM HAS TO ABIDE BY THE EXISTING, CURRENT GUIDELINES, CORRECT?
10:00:26AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: CORRECT.

10:00:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:00:28AM THAT'S IT.
10:00:29AM THANK YOU.
10:00:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN?
10:00:31AM I SAW YOUR MIKE ON.
10:00:32AM MR. SUAREZ?
10:00:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES HERE, AND I
10:00:37AM THINK THAT YOU'VE EXPLAINED SOME OF THEM AND THANK YOU,
10:00:40AM CHAIR, FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
10:00:43AM ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU HAD ALREADY OWNED A HOME PRIOR TO 2000
10:00:47AM WHEN THIS CAME INTO FORCE, YOU WERE A NONCONFORM -- I MEAN,
10:00:53AM YOU WERE A NONCONFORMING -- I MEAN, NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE
10:00:57AM PARTICULAR ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED CONCERNING THE HISTORIC
10:01:02AM PRESERVATION.
10:01:03AM SO NOW YOU'RE NONCOMPLIANCE, NONCONFORMING, NONCOMPLIANCE,
10:01:06AM OKAY.
10:01:07AM SO WHENEVER YOU CHANGE SOMETHING, THEN YOU HAVE TO COME INTO
10:01:10AM COMPLIANCE, LIKE WE DO WITH EVERY OTHER ISSUE.
10:01:12AM WE'VE DONE THIS WITH SIGNS SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS, AND
10:01:16AM THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT.
10:01:17AM SO WHEN YOU MOVE IN OR WHEN YOU CHANGE, YOU KNOW THAT THERE
10:01:21AM HAS TO BE -- YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE NEW STANDARDS.
10:01:24AM AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT?
10:01:26AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THAT IS CORRECT.
10:01:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: FOR ME, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT

10:01:29AM STAYING THE WAY IT IS.
10:01:30AM I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO AS A CITY IS THOSE FOLKS THAT DO
10:01:33AM LIVE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEY SHOULD BE REMINDED ON A
10:01:37AM YEARLY BASIS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THEY LIVE UNDER
10:01:43AM OR ANY CHANGES THAT MIGHT COME UP.
10:01:45AM BECAUSE WE HAD TWO CASES WITHIN A FEW WEEKS OF EACH OTHER IN
10:01:48AM THE SAME DISTRICT FOR DIFFERENT CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT
10:01:55AM THEY WERE DOING, BUT IT WAS STILL ABOUT HISTORIC
10:01:57AM PRESERVATION.
10:01:57AM IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT, THEN WE SHOULD STICK
10:02:01AM TO IT, I BELIEVE.
10:02:02AM I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE TO -- I THINK WHEN WE HAVE A
10:02:04AM REVIEW HEARING, AND THE NEW COUNCIL IS JOINING OUR THREE
10:02:08AM COLLEAGUES THAT ARE REELECTED, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
10:02:12AM FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
10:02:15AM I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO CONTINUE BECAUSE I BELIEVE, AND
10:02:18AM MAYBE YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.
10:02:20AM WHEN DID THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC PRESERVATION COME INTO PLAY?
10:02:28AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: 1988.
10:02:31AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND AT THAT TIME FROM ABOUT '78 TO '88, THAT
10:02:34AM TEN-YEAR PERIOD, THINGS STARTED TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY AND
10:02:37AM THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PRESERVED SOME OF THOSE
10:02:40AM HOMES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE, BECAUSE IF I RECALL
10:02:43AM CORRECTLY, THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT WERE GOING IN AND
10:02:45AM TEARING DOWN SOME OF THOSE BUNGALOWS, AND THEN THERE WAS AN

10:02:49AM EFFORT TO SAVE THE REST OF THE DISTRICT.
10:02:51AM I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THE SPECIFICS, BUT THAT'S THE ESSENCE
10:02:54AM OF THE REASON WHY IT GOT CREATED.
10:02:58AM IN THIS CASE I DON'T THINK WE HAD THE SAME CATALYST BUT I
10:03:01AM THINK NOW IT HAS BECOME A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PEOPLE WANT TO
10:03:03AM MOVE INTO AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THAT CHARACTER.
10:03:06AM MOST PEOPLE DO, NOT EVERYONE.
10:03:08AM I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THESE REGS IN PLACE SO WE CAN GO
10:03:11AM FORWARD.
10:03:11AM THANK YOU.
10:03:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
10:03:13AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, REAL QUICK.
10:03:15AM THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CONSENSUS HERE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU,
10:03:20AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FENCES, ONE OF THE HIGHEST -- HIGHEST
10:03:27AM TAX BASE AREAS, CULBREATH ISLES AND CULBREATH BAYOU, AND
10:03:32AM THEY ARE TOTALLY FENCED IN.
10:03:34AM TOTALLY.
10:03:34AM SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SAFETY.
10:03:46AM IT JUST IS PRIVACY.
10:03:47AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FENCE NOT TO THE FRONT OF THE YARD.
10:03:50AM WE'RE TALKING TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS VERY
10:03:53AM DIFFERENT FROM THE FRONT OF THE YARD.
10:04:02AM I FEEL THAT OVEREXTENSION.
10:04:07AM I DO BELIEVE IT IS OVEREXTENDING PROPERTY RIGHTS.
10:04:10AM THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL.

10:04:12AM WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
10:04:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT BOTHERED ME IS
10:04:15AM THAT WE ARE STARTING TO BECOME LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES.
10:04:27AM DICTATORSHIP.
10:04:29AM DICTATOR FORM OF COUNTRY.
10:04:32AM IF WE WANT TO MANDATE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
10:04:39AM YOU INVESTED 200, 300 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A PIECE OF
10:04:43AM PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE SITTING DOWN HERE IN A
10:04:46AM SUIT AND A DRESS TELLING ME I CAN'T DO THIS TO MY PROPERTY
10:04:51AM AND THEY AIN'T PAID ONE DAMN DIME IN RENT OR ON THE
10:04:56AM MORTGAGE.
10:04:57AM SO WE WANT TO MANDATE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.
10:05:04AM AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH.
10:05:08AM RULES OF PROCEDURES, RULES AND REGULATIONS, DEMANDING YOU
10:05:12AM CAN'T DO THIS.
10:05:13AM YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
10:05:16AM YOU CAN HAVE TWO CARS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
10:05:19AM HELL, YOU HAVE FOUR PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOUSE, YOU ONLY
10:05:22AM HAVE TWO.
10:05:23AM WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY AND NOW IN THIS CITY?
10:05:30AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOTIVATING AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO
10:05:35AM COME LIVE IN TAMPA?
10:05:39AM WE ARE PREACHING GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, ALL THE POLITICAL
10:05:45AM RHETORIC THAT I HEARD, OH, GREAT PLACE.
10:05:49AM GREAT UNTIL YOU LIVE, MOVE HERE AND FIND OUT THE RULES OF

10:05:56AM PROCEDURE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN MANDATED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
10:05:59AM AND THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE SAID ISSUE WE'RE
10:06:07AM DEALING WITH TODAY.
10:06:11AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: MAY I RESPOND?
10:06:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HELL, I DON'T CARE IF YOU RESPOND OR NOT.
10:06:15AM FENCING DON'T KILL NOBODY.
10:06:17AM AND IF A PERSON WANT TO PUT UP A FENCE AND I CAN UNDERSTAND
10:06:23AM THE LIMITATION ON HOW TALL IT SHOULD BE, BUT JUST BECAUSE --
10:06:29AM I MEAN, WITH THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT YOU GOT, HELL,
10:06:32AM YOU TELL PEOPLE WHAT COLOR HOUSE THEY HAVE TO PAINT, WHAT
10:06:35AM KIND OF WINDOWS THEY GOT TO HAVE.
10:06:38AM I REMEMBER A GUY, AN ATTORNEY NAMED CARL HAYS LIVING IN
10:06:45AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, SUED -- I BELIEVE HE SUED THE CITY OVER
10:06:51AM THE SAME FOOLISHNESS.
10:06:55AM AND THIS IS WHAT GONNA HAPPEN.
10:06:57AM WE'RE GONNA GET MORE LAWSUITS BASED ON THE SAME FOOLISHNESS
10:07:02AM THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY.
10:07:03AM THESE RULES OF PROCEDURE MANDATING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN DO
10:07:08AM AND WHAT THEY CAN'T DO.
10:07:09AM AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS FOOLISHNESS.
10:07:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MAY I?
10:07:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YEAH, YOU'RE CUTTING ME OFF, BUT GO AHEAD.
10:07:20AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:07:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M FINISHED.
10:07:23AM I'M SORRY.

10:07:23AM NO, YOU'RE NOT DONE, GO AHEAD.
10:07:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO, NO.
10:07:28AM GO AHEAD.
10:07:28AM -- TRAIN OF THOUGHT NOW.
10:07:31AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT HAPPENS.
10:07:32AM YOU KNOW, IN 1995, WE BOUGHT A PROPERTY IN BEACH PARK.
10:07:42AM AND I HAD THIS ISSUE.
10:07:44AM THEY FOLD ME YOU HAVE TWO FRONT YARDS.
10:07:47AM ONE WAS ON ROYAL PALM.
10:07:49AM ONE WAS ON AZEELE.
10:07:52AM I COULDN'T GET ANY PRIVACY.
10:07:55AM SO I SUGGEST TO THESE PEOPLE, UNLESS YOU HAVE A GUIDELINE ON
10:08:01AM HEDGES, I PUT EIGHT-FOOT HEDGES ALL AROUND MY PROPERTY,
10:08:06AM WHICH GAVE ME THE PRIVACY I NEEDED, PLUS THE SOUND.
10:08:10AM SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT ALLOWING FENCES BUT YOU CAN PUT
10:08:16AM UP HEDGES THAT WILL DO THE SAME EFFECT AS A FENCE.
10:08:21AM IT KEEPS PEOPLE OUT AND IT GIVES YOU THE PRIVACY.
10:08:24AM THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO BECAUSE I COULD NOT GET THROUGH TO
10:08:30AM THE CITY, PLEASE GIVE ME ONE OR THE OTHER HAS GOT TO BE A
10:08:33AM BACKYARD.
10:08:34AM NO, NO.
10:08:35AM SO I WENT AND PUT UP EIGHT-FOOT HEDGE ALL AROUND THE
10:08:41AM PROPERTY.
10:08:41AM I ALSO PUT LATTICE FOR THE HEDGE TO GROW ON.
10:08:46AM THE LATTICE WAS EIGHT FOOT TALL ALL AROUND THE YARD.

10:08:50AM THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED A FENCE.
10:08:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
10:08:58AM >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO UPHOLD THE HPC RECOMMENDATION OF NO
10:09:01AM CHANGES.
10:09:01AM I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE HPC'S RECOMMENDATION THAT NO CHANGES BE
10:09:05AM MADE TO THE EXISTING FENCE HEIGHT STANDARDS OF THE TAMPA
10:09:07AM HEIGHTS DESIGN GUIDELINES.
10:09:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOPE YOU NEVER MOVE TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:09:13AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:15AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:09:16AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
10:09:18AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:09:20AM THOSE OPPOSED?
10:09:22AM >> NAY.
10:09:22AM >> NAY.
10:09:23AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH REDDICK AND CAPIN VOTING
10:09:25AM NO.
10:09:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 76.
10:09:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:09:38AM JEAN DUNCAN WITH TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES
10:09:41AM DEPARTMENT.
10:09:42AM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, YOU HAD ASKED FOR A LITTLE MORE
10:09:46AM INFORMATION ABOUT THE CRASH DATA ON KENNEDY TO COLUMBUS ON
10:09:52AM HIMES AVENUE, EXCUSE ME, FROM KENNEDY TO COLUMBUS.
10:09:55AM I HAVE A SUMMARY OF THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT

10:09:58AM THAT.
10:10:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXCUSE ME.
10:10:05AM THANK YOU.
10:10:06AM WHEN DID THAT DATA COME UP?
10:10:08AM IT'S BEEN HERE?
10:10:14AM BECAUSE I GOT A CALL FROM ABC ACTION NEWS, AND THEY TOLD ME
10:10:17AM THAT YOU TOLD THEM IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
10:10:19AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE INFORMATION I WAS ASKED THE LAST TIME I
10:10:21AM WAS HERE WAS REGARDING WHY DID WE DO THE SECTION OF HIMES
10:10:24AM FROM KENNEDY TO COLUMBUS PRIOR TO OTHER SEGMENTS OF THE
10:10:28AM ROADWAY?
10:10:29AM THAT DECISION WAS MADE IN 2014, AND THE DATA WE LOOKED AT TO
10:10:33AM MAKE THAT DECISION WAS FROM 2011 TO 2013.
10:10:37AM ABC ACTION NEWS CONTACTED ME TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY DATA
10:10:42AM AVAILABLE TO THEM SINCE THE ROADWAY PROJECT HAS BEEN
10:10:47AM CONSTRUCTED.
10:10:47AM AND I SAID I DIDN'T HAVE ANY AVAILABLE TO SHARE WITH THEM AT
10:10:50AM THIS TIME.
10:10:51AM SO THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES THAT WE'RE TALKING
10:10:56AM ABOUT.
10:10:56AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:10:58AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I APOLOGIZE IF THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION ON
10:11:01AM THAT.
10:11:01AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO WE HAVE ANY DATA THAT'S MORE CURRENT?
10:11:05AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: DATA GETS COLLECTED EVERY SINGLE DAY THROUGH

10:11:08AM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
10:11:11AM SO WE GO TO A DATABASE WHERE THE DATA GETS ENTERED INTO.
10:11:17AM BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME IT TAKES, ABOUT A THREE-MONTH LAG
10:11:20AM BETWEEN WHEN AN ACCIDENT ACTUALLY HAPPENS AND WHEN THE DATA
10:11:23AM GETS INTO OUR -- THE DATABASE SYSTEM THAT WE REFER TO.
10:11:27AM SO THERE IS SOME FEW MONTHS OF INFORMATION PROBABLY IN THAT
10:11:31AM DATABASE, BUT IT'S NOT OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE AT THIS POINT
10:11:35AM BEING THAT THE IMPROVEMENT WAS JUST MADE RECENTLY.
10:11:38AM SO THIS HANDOUT THAT I JUST PROVIDED IS WHAT WAS USED TO
10:11:45AM MAKE THE DECISION AT THE TIME TO DO THE IMPROVEMENT ON HIMES
10:11:49AM BETWEEN KENNEDY AND COLUMBUS.
10:11:52AM AND BASICALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY GOT OUR
10:11:55AM ATTENTION WAS WITHIN THAT TWO-YEAR TIME FRAME, THERE WERE
10:11:59AM SEVEN INCAPACITATING ACCIDENTS, WHICH IS A VERY SHORT TIME
10:12:04AM PERIOD TO HAVE THAT MANY SEVERE INJURIES OF THAT TYPE.
10:12:08AM SO IT GOT OUR ATTENTION THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING TO
10:12:11AM MAKE THE ROADWAYS SAFER.
10:12:13AM THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF HIMES DID NOT HAVE ANY PHYSICAL
10:12:18AM MEDIAN SEPARATION AS THE OTHER SECTIONS OF HIMES HAVE.
10:12:22AM WHEN YOU HAVE A ROADWAY THAT'S A FIVE-LANE SECTION WITH NO
10:12:27AM SEPARATED MEDIAN, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONFLICT POINTS AND THE
10:12:30AM MORE CONFLICT POINTS YOU HAVE, OBVIOUSLY THE MORE ACCIDENTS
10:12:33AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
10:12:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
10:12:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

10:12:35AM I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU FOR A SECOND.
10:12:37AM THE MAKER OF THE MOTION I BELIEVE I MADE THAT MOTION, IF MY
10:12:42AM MIND RECALLS WHAT I SAID.
10:12:44AM HIMES FROM KENNEDY TO COLUMBUS, AND THEN IT WAS NOT HIMES
10:12:49AM FROM COLUMBUS TO MLK.
10:12:56AM IT WAS FROM HIMES TO HILLSBOROUGH.
10:12:58AM AND WE HAVE A SEGMENT THAT'S BROKEN UP.
10:13:01AM AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SUMS OF THE DIGITS, AND IF I DO THAT,
10:13:05AM IT'S VERY COMPARABLE, IF YOU DO ONE ON ONE.
10:13:09AM WHAT HAPPENED HERE, SOMEHOW, AND I MAY HAVE TO GO LOOK AT
10:13:13AM THE RECORD, WE CHANGED IT FROM HIMES FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE TO
10:13:16AM MLK AND HIMES NORTH BOULEVARD -- I GUESS IT'S TAMPA BAY
10:13:20AM BOULEVARD TO HILLSBOROUGH.
10:13:24AM IT WAS MET AS ONE CONTINUOUS FROM HIMES, COLUMBUS DRIVE
10:13:28AM NORTH TO HILLSBOROUGH, ONE SEGMENT, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT
10:13:32AM IT, LENGTH OF MILES, ONE IS ONE AND A HALF MILES AND THE
10:13:36AM OTHERS ARE A MILE EACH.
10:13:37AM SO IF YOU HAVE THAT SUM, IT'S TWO MILES VERSUS A MILE AND A
10:13:41AM HALF.
10:13:42AM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW BY THE SUMS IS ONE AND A HALF TO
10:13:44AM ONE AND ONE AND A HALF TO ONE, WHICH MAY BE I MISINTERPRETED
10:13:49AM WHAT I SAID, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I DID.
10:13:51AM AND WE TALKED ABOUT DEATHS.
10:13:55AM I SEE NO DEATHS HERE THAT I KNOW OF THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
10:14:00AM AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DIE, BUT I HAVE SEEN CARS JUMP

10:14:01AM OVER RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND TRUCKS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME,
10:14:06AM BECAUSE THAT NARROW STRIP THAT WAS DONE WAS VERY NARROW WITH
10:14:08AM A LITTLE HEIGHT OF ABOUT THREE OR FOUR INCHES.
10:14:10AM CARS DO IT, EVERYBODY DOES IT.
10:14:13AM IN FACT, I ALMOST DID IT ONE DAY, WHERE AM I GOING?
10:14:16AM I'M HEADING EAST ON GRAY, AND WHEN I GET TO GRAY AND THE
10:14:22AM INTERSECTION OF HIMES, I COULDN'T GO LEFT.
10:14:26AM I CAN ONLY TURN RIGHT.
10:14:28AM AND THEN SHOW US HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A LEFT ON ANYWHERE
10:14:32AM BETWEEN GRAY AND KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
10:14:34AM SO WHEN YOU GET TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A
10:14:37AM U-TURN TO HEAD BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
10:14:39AM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE ARE WRONG.
10:14:41AM MAYBE I'M WRONG.
10:14:43AM I'M NEVER 100% PERFECT NO ONE IS, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS
10:14:47AM I'VE NOTICED.
10:14:48AM THE NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAINED.
10:14:50AM I'M SURE MR. MANISCALCO HAS GOT THEM BECAUSE I HAVE THEM,
10:14:53AM THEY CAN'T CROSS THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:14:55AM AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, I REALLY DON'T.
10:14:58AM I THINK AND I'LL SAY IT PUBLICLY.
10:15:00AM I THINK IT WAS DONE THAT WAY BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT WHERE
10:15:03AM THE STADIUM IS AT, YOU REALLY GET THE HEAT.
10:15:06AM WE AIN'T DONE THAT WHERE THE STADIUM IS AT.
10:15:09AM I'M NOT ANTI-STADIUM.

10:15:10AM I DIDN'T VOTE FOR STADIUM TO FUND IT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M
10:15:15AM ANTISTADIUM.
10:15:16AM WE'RE CREATING ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TOTALLY DIFFERENT ON ONE
10:15:20AM SECTOR OF IT AND THE OTHER SECTOR WHEN THEY WERE BOTH THE
10:15:22AM SAME, EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
10:15:23AM I DIDN'T HEAR NO COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE WE
10:15:27AM STARTED DOING THIS.
10:15:28AM AND IF I RECALL HISTORY, I ONCE ASKED A QUESTION AND I
10:15:34AM ASKED, WELL, WHO STARTED THIS, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:15:37AM LATER ON I HEAR, WHO STARTED -- WELL, WE ASKED FOR A GRANT
10:15:40AM AND GOT IT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:15:42AM SO THAT SET MY MIND WITH DOUBT.
10:15:45AM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
10:15:49AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DID MAKE THE MOTION TO BEGIN WITH, BUT
10:15:53AM YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, THAT WAS THE INTENTION WAS
10:15:56AM EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THEY
10:16:00AM ARE VERY COMFORTABLE.
10:16:01AM YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THERE.
10:16:04AM I WAS ADDING THEM UP.
10:16:05AM AND, YES, THERE ARE COMPLAINTS.
10:16:08AM THEY EVEN COME -- USUALLY CITY WIDE DOES NOT GET COMPLAINTS
10:16:13AM FROM DISTRICTS.
10:16:14AM THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL.
10:16:15AM WE GET THEM BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MANEUVER WITHOUT
10:16:21AM MAKING A U-TURN AT KENNEDY, WITHOUT MAKING A U-TURN ANYWHERE

10:16:24AM ON THERE.
10:16:25AM AND, YES, THEY DO GO OVER THE MEDIAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO
10:16:28AM ENGINEERED IT, BUT IT IS VERY POOR, AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:16:35AM IS RIGHT, IT WAS NOT DONE WHERE THE STADIUM IS.
10:16:38AM IT WAS NOT DONE ANYWHERE FROM COLUMBUS TO MLK BECAUSE THEY
10:16:46AM WOULDN'T TOLERATE IT.
10:16:48AM THE STADIUM WOULD HAVE A FIT.
10:16:53AM THESE NEIGHBORS WHICH WE DO CONSTANTLY, THEY ARE -- THEY PUT
10:17:00AM UP WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM THE STADIUM, ALL THE TIME, AND
10:17:04AM NOW THEY CAN'T EVEN CROSS THEIR STREETS.
10:17:08AM I'D LIKE TO SEE -- I WANT TO SEE DATA NOW, TODAY.
10:17:14AM I WANT TO SEE.
10:17:16AM SINCE IT'S PULLED EVERY DAY, THAT'S THE DATA I WANT TO SEE
10:17:19AM TO COMPARE THE IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND HOW MUCH
10:17:25AM IT HAS IMPROVED THE ACCIDENTS.
10:17:27AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE CAN CERTAINLY PULL WHATEVER DATA IS
10:17:29AM AVAILABLE.
10:17:30AM BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE A MEANINGFUL SAMPLE OF DATA, YOU'RE NOT
10:17:33AM GOING TO GET A MEANINGFUL REVIEW OF THAT DATA.
10:17:36AM BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PULL WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE.
10:17:38AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO THE POLICE DON'T HAVE A MEANINGFUL SAMPLE
10:17:40AM OF DATA.
10:17:41AM YOU SAID THE POLICE PULL IT EVERY DAY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A
10:17:44AM MEANINGFUL SAMPLE OF DATA.
10:17:46AM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

10:17:47AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I MEAN BECAUSE THE IMPROVEMENT IS FAIRLY NEW,
10:17:49AM TO JUST LOOK AT SEVERAL MONTHS OF DATA IS NOT GOING TO --
10:17:55AM THE SITUATION IS STILL NORMALIZING AS FAR AS HOW DRIVERS ARE
10:17:59AM NEGOTIATING ON THAT ROAD.
10:18:01AM I DID WANT TO ADD, WE ARE ADDING FOUR LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE
10:18:04AM PUTTING WHAT WE CALL A BUMP-OUT, WHICH IS A WIDER -- WIDEN
10:18:09AM THE AREA WHERE THE DRIVER HAS TO MAKE THE U-TURN SO IT WOULD
10:18:14AM BE EASIER FOR THE DRIVER TO MAKE THE U-TURN.
10:18:17AM ALL OF THE U-TURNS ENGINEERED WERE A STANDARD VEHICLE COULD
10:18:21AM MAKE THE U-TURN.
10:18:22AM THE ISSUE IS, BECAUSE IT IS A TIGHT CORRIDOR, WITHOUT
10:18:25AM RELOCATING THE ENTIRE CURBLINE, YOU HAVE TO HUB THAT EDGE
10:18:31AM LINE TO MAKE YOUR -- HUG THAT EDGE LINE TO MAKE YOUR U-TURN.
10:18:35AM YOU CAN'T BE IN THE MIDDLE OR FAR EDGE OF THE TRAVEL LANE TO
10:18:38AM MAKE A U-TURN.
10:18:39AM WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER DATA IS AVAILABLE.
10:18:42AM THE COMPLAINTS WE WERE GETTING BESIDES THE ACCIDENTS THAT
10:18:44AM WERE HAPPENING WAS CUT-THRU TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:18:46AM WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE WE HAVE OAKFORD PARK
10:18:52AM COMPLAINING ABOUT CUT-THRU ON THEIR END, OTHERS COMPLAINING.
10:18:56AM WE TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST BALANCE SOLUTION, AND WE'RE
10:18:59AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS PROJECT TO TRY
10:19:02AM TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT EVERYONE IS HAVING, BECAUSE
10:19:06AM THAT IS OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE AS MUCH OF A BALANCED SOLUTION
10:19:09AM WE CAN.

10:19:10AM WE'RE NEVER GOING TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO
10:19:13AM CONTINUE TO WORK.
10:19:13AM IF YOU WANT TO SEND US ANY OF THE COMPLAINTS YOU'RE GETTING,
10:19:16AM WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE FOLKS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:19:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT IS MEANINGFUL DATA FROM CYPRESS OR
10:19:29AM COLUMBUS DRIVE TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
10:19:31AM THAT'S MEANINGFUL BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A VERY
10:19:33AM LONG TIME.
10:19:34AM I WANT TO SEE THESE NUMBERS AND THOSE NUMBERS.
10:19:36AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
10:19:38AM NOT MEANINGFUL DATA BECAUSE IT'S ONLY BEEN SEVEN MONTHS,
10:19:41AM SEVEN MONTHS -- WHEN IS MEANINGFUL DATA?
10:19:44AM A YEAR.
10:19:44AM I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD ABC NEWS.
10:19:46AM IT'S A YEAR.
10:19:47AM YOU TOLD THEM YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA BECAUSE IT'S A YEAR,
10:19:50AM YOU WANT TO SEE IF IT'S WORKING OR NOT IN A YEAR.
10:19:52AM SO SEVEN MONTHS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, PLUS THE OTHER, IT'S
10:20:02AM BEEN ONGOING, SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT COULD NOT BE
10:20:06AM MEANINGFUL.
10:20:07AM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO
10:20:12AM SPEAK?
10:20:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:20:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST, LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR HIMES,
10:20:18AM MARTIN LUTHER KING TO HILLSBOROUGH.

10:20:20AM I KNOW IT WAS RECENTLY PAVED.
10:20:22AM MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE GRATEFUL.
10:20:23AM I REMEMBER SPEAKING TO THE OAKFORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
10:20:26AM ASSOCIATION MAYBE LATE 2015, EARLY 2016, AND A MAJORITY OF
10:20:33AM THE COMPLAINING WAS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIMES PAVED?
10:20:37AM AND, OF COURSE, IT WAS PAVED WITH THIS ENTIRE PROJECT.
10:20:41AM I REMEMBER GOING TO SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ONE IN THE
10:20:44AM BARKSDALE CENTER AT McFARLAND PARK SHOWING THE DESIGN FOR
10:20:48AM HOW HIMES FROM COLUMBUS TO KENNEDY WERE GOING TO WORK OUT.
10:20:51AM NOT THAT I RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, BUT I SEE A LOT OF
10:20:56AM THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTS, AND FOLKS ESPECIALLY FROM OAKFORD
10:21:00AM PARK AND McFARLAND PARK AND WHATNOT, APPRECIATE THE ROAD
10:21:04AM BEING PAVED, BUT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO
10:21:07AM -- YOU KNOW, LIKE GRAY STREET, YOU CAN'T GO ACROSS.
10:21:10AM AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, YOU HAVE TO GO TO KENNEDY TO
10:21:14AM MAKE A U-TURN.
10:21:15AM LAST NIGHT I WAS AT SONS OF ITALY AND THEY MENTIONED PEOPLE
10:21:18AM COMING SOUTH ON HIMES CAN'T TAKE A LEFT ONTO LEMON STREET.
10:21:21AM THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THEIR 80s.
10:21:25AM THEY ARE CAREFUL WHEN THEY DRIVE, BUT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED
10:21:28AM THEY HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN OR NEXT STREET OVER TO LEMON TO
10:21:31AM GET TO THE SONS OF ITALY HALL.
10:21:33AM THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.
10:21:36AM I UNDERSTAND ONCE YOU GO NORTH OF COLUMBUS, THE MEDIANS ARE
10:21:39AM ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT YOU CAN STILL MAKE LEFT TURNS, RIGHT

10:21:42AM TURNS, PLUS THERE'S ALSO THE STADIUM WHERE THE YANKEES PLAY
10:21:46AM AND ALL THAT AND THEN THE PARK.
10:21:49AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
10:21:50AM THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED, ESPECIALLY IN THAT SEGMENT.
10:21:53AM I KNOW, I MAY HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU OR SOMEBODY IN
10:21:56AM TRANSPORTATION WHEN THEY SAID ONE OF THE HIGHEST CRASH AREAS
10:22:00AM IS THAT SECTION FROM COLUMBUS TO KENNEDY ON HIMES BECAUSE IT
10:22:03AM WAS WIDE OPEN.
10:22:04AM THE CENTER MEDIAN WAS JUST TWO FADED LINES.
10:22:07AM NOW THIS MAKES IT SAFER BUT IT'S MORE FRUSTRATING, AND WHAT
10:22:12AM NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA TELL ME IS IT JUST PUSHES
10:22:15AM TRAFFIC ONTO THE STREETS.
10:22:17AM YOU HAVE THE GRAY STREET LIGHT AT DALE MABRY.
10:22:19AM THAT BRINGS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
10:22:21AM NOW THOSE FOLKS HAVE NO OPPORTUNITY EXCEPT TO GO SOUTH ON
10:22:24AM HIMES TO KENNEDY.
10:22:26AM AND THAT U-TURN IS NOT THE EASIEST BECAUSE THAT AREA IS NOT
10:22:29AM SO WIDE.
10:22:31AM KENNEDY IS MORE HEAVILY TRAVELED.
10:22:33AM SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE DATA MOVING
10:22:35AM FORWARD, I KNOW THIS IS NEW, AND I'M LOOKING AT HOW THEY ARE
10:22:38AM BROKEN DOWN BY THREE-YEAR SEGMENTS.
10:22:41AM IF THE CRASHES HAVE GONE DOWN, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ACCIDENTS,
10:22:45AM BUT WHAT I DO SEE HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, FOLKS DRIVING RIGHT
10:22:48AM OVER THESE NEW CENTER MEDIANS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT USED TO

10:22:51AM IT OR DON'T SEE IT.
10:22:53AM I SEE IT.
10:22:54AM MAYBE I PAY ATTENTION WHEN I DRIVE BUT THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY
10:22:57AM ELSE.
10:22:57AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
10:22:59AM THESE NUMBERS SHOULD BE REDUCED TO CLOSE TO ZERO BECAUSE
10:23:02AM IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, BUT TO THE FRUSTRATION OF
10:23:04AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT MAKES IT HARD TO MANEUVER AROUND THAT
10:23:10AM SECTION.
10:23:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:23:14AM ALTHOUGH THIS IS MORE LIKELY ACCURATE, MATHEMATICALLY IT'S
10:23:18AM INCORRECT BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON ACCIDENTS PER MILE.
10:23:23AM WHEN YOU GO TO DO SOMETHING BY MILE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
10:23:25AM BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
10:23:26AM I ASK ANYONE TO FIND ME A HOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIMES
10:23:34AM FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
10:23:39AM CAN ANYBODY NAME ME A HOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF COLUMBUS
10:23:41AM DRIVE -- I MEAN, OF HIMES?
10:23:44AM ON THE WEST SIDE.
10:23:45AM THERE ARE NO HOUSES.
10:23:46AM SO THAT MEANS THERE'S NO ONE LIVING BETWEEN HIMES AND DALE
10:23:49AM MABRY.
10:23:50AM SO THAT MEANS THERE ARE NO CARS CROSSING.
10:23:52AM SO THE APPLICATION IS CORRECT, BUT THE REVIEW IS FLAWED.
10:23:58AM NOT ON YOU, BUT ON THE SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH,

10:24:01AM BECAUSE THE POPULATION IS CERTAINLY ALL ON THIS SIDE, AND
10:24:05AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, YES, THERE'S MORE, BUT IT DOES
10:24:08AM NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY TRAFFIC CHANGING LANES ON HIMES BETWEEN
10:24:13AM COLUMBUS DRIVE AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
10:24:15AM AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY BECAUSE IT HAS GOT TO BE -- IF
10:24:21AM IT'S BASED ON THAT, YOU BASE IT ON POPULATION, ON WEST OF
10:24:26AM HIMES AND I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT THESE NUMBERS DO NOT COME
10:24:30AM UP THE WAY THEY ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE IT'S ONLY BASED ON
10:24:33AM MILEAGE, ON ONE AND A HALF MILE, ONE MILE AND ONE MILE, NOT
10:24:36AM BASED ON POPULATION.
10:24:37AM SO, THEREFORE, THE NUMBERS FROM THIS, NOT YOU -- LET ME SAY
10:24:41AM THAT AGAIN -- NOT YOU.
10:24:42AM NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT.
10:24:43AM BUT THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED IS NOT DONE CORRECTLY.
10:24:47AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:24:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:24:48AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:24:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S GOING TO GET TO A POINT THAT WE GO
10:24:58AM NUMBERS AND APPLES --
10:24:59AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I THINK WE MADE THE POINT.
10:25:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE POINT IS MADE THAT IN MY BOOK IT'S A
10:25:04AM WASTE OF MONEY WHAT WE'VE DONE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW
10:25:07AM ANYTHING AT ALL.
10:25:07AM IT'S NOT BASED ON FACT.
10:25:09AM IT'S BASED ON MILEAGE OF A LENGTH OF A ROAD, NEVER ON

10:25:12AM POPULATION.
10:25:13AM SO IF YOU HAVE CATTLE AND A FARM AND YOU HAVE A WALL AROUND
10:25:19AM THE FARM, NO CATTLE IS EVER GOING TO CROSS THE STREET.
10:25:21AM BUT IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE FENCE WITH BARBED WIRE, GUESS WHAT,
10:25:24AM THE ODDS ARE THAT SOME COW IS GOING TO CROSS THE STREET OR
10:25:28AM SOME BULL IS GOING TO CROSS THE STREET OR SOMETHING IS GOING
10:25:29AM TO CROSS THE STREET.
10:25:30AM BUT IF YOU HAVE IT COMPLETELY FENCED IN, THEY CAN'T GET OUT.
10:25:34AM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:25:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:25:41AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: NO, SIR.
10:25:42AM OKAY.
10:25:42AM WE THANK YOU.
10:25:43AM ITEM NUMBER 77.
10:25:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOB McDONAUGH.
10:25:52AM I THINK WE'RE ALMOST AT THE END OF A VERY LONG ROADWAY.
10:25:57AM WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL ITEMS TO BRING BACK TO CITY
10:26:02AM COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO TIDY IT UP, BUT THE
10:26:06AM DEVELOPER I THINK HAS APPEASED THE STRAZ WITH THE PLAN.
10:26:11AM OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY PEOPLE ARE POISED TO APPROVE THE
10:26:14AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PLAN.
10:26:15AM AND WE WILL BE GOING TO A CLOSING SOMETIME IN THE NEXT
10:26:19AM MONTH.
10:26:19AM THE BROADWAY SERIES IS CLOSED, AND SO THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE
10:26:26AM TO DO CONSTRUCTION.

10:26:33AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE MY PAPERWORK HERE.
10:26:38AM THIS WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, SECOND READING,
10:26:43AM AUGUST 22 -- FIRST READING WAS AUGUST 8, 2013.
10:26:47AM IT'S ALMOST SIX YEARS AGO.
10:26:49AM WHAT WAS SIX YEARS AGO WAS THE REZONING REQUEST.
10:26:53AM I HAVE HERE WITH THIS PROJECT SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED IN
10:27:02AM '14.
10:27:05AM IN 2015, WE ARE NOW IN 2019, FIVE YEARS LATER.
10:27:10AM THIS ARTICLE WAS JANUARY 25, 2013.
10:27:14AM THAT'S EXACTLY A LITTLE OVER SIX YEARS AGO.
10:27:18AM THE FRAMEWORK FOR -- WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE FINISHED BY LATE
10:27:26AM 2014.
10:27:27AM IN PARTICULAR, THE IMPROVEMENTS AND ROAD WORK NETWORK TO THE
10:27:31AM ARRIVAL PLAZA AND ENSURE THAT THEY DO.
10:27:35AM THIS WAS THE ARRIVAL PLAZA, DID THEY GIVE THEM THE MILLION
10:27:44AM DOLLARS?
10:27:45AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THEY WILL DO THAT AFTER COMMENCEMENT OF
10:27:48AM CONSTRUCTION.
10:27:48AM THEY HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH THE STRAZ.
10:27:49AM THEY ARE FUNDING THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ARRIVAL PLAZA, AND
10:27:53AM THEY ARE GIVING THEM --
10:27:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NO PROJECT THAT WE HAVE APPROVED SINCE I'VE
10:27:58AM BEEN HERE HAS TAKEN THIS LONG, THAT I KNOW OF, DOWNTOWN.
10:28:03AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: MS. CAPIN, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE
10:28:07AM 2008, WHICH IS WHEN THE STRAZ ORIGINALLY CAME UP WITH THE

10:28:10AM REQUEST FOR THE CITY TO CHANGE THAT ROADWAY PLAN.
10:28:13AM AND SO THE STRAZ ACTUALLY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR
10:28:19AM FOUR YEARS TO DO THAT VERY THING, AND THEN A BOARD MEMBER
10:28:22AM FROM THE STRAZ, WHEN THE STRAZ -- THE CITY SAID WE DID NOT
10:28:26AM HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND THESE IMPROVEMENTS, A BOARD MEMBER OF
10:28:29AM THE STRAZ CAME FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN.
10:28:32AM AND SO A LOT OF THIS TIME HAS BEEN SPENT APPEASING THE STRAZ
10:28:37AM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADWAY PLAN WOULD WORK FOR EVERYONE.
10:28:42AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE SOLD IT FOR $4 MILLION.
10:28:44AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: EXCUSE ME?
10:28:46AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: -- PAY THE CITY 4 --
10:28:49AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THEY WILL PUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION
10:28:51AM DOLLARS INTO ESCROW AT THE CLOSING.
10:28:53AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE ASSESSED VALUE IS $13 MILLION.
10:28:56AM TODAY.
10:29:00AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: I'M SORRY.
10:29:01AM WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFORMATION FROM?
10:29:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BOB HENRIQUEZ, PROPERTY APPRAISER.
10:29:07AM McGINNIS PLACE --
10:29:10AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: YOU MUST BE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE LIBRARY
10:29:13AM PARCEL, BECAUSE THIS PARCEL HASN'T BEEN CREATED YET, SO
10:29:16AM THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR THEM TO PUT AN ASSESSMENT ON IT.
10:29:19AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:29:20AM SO WE TOOK OUT 1.1 ACRES.
10:29:26AM WE -- OKAY.

10:29:29AM IT'S IN ESCROW.
10:29:30AM SO THE CITY -- WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED OUR MONEY.
10:29:32AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: WE HAVEN'T CLOSED ON THE LAND YET.
10:29:34AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE HAVEN'T CLOSED ON THE LAND BUT WE MADE
10:29:37AM THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREET.
10:29:38AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: WE HAVE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
10:29:40AM THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE MORE IMPROVEMENTS.
10:29:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AT THE COST OF THE TAXPAYER.
10:29:46AM AND IT HAS CHANGED HANDS.
10:29:47AM IT CHANGED HANDS FROM THE ORIGINAL.
10:29:49AM SOMEBODY MADE MONEY ON THIS ALREADY, AND THE CITY -- THE
10:29:54AM TAXPAYER STILL IS WAITING FOR THEIR MONEY.
10:29:56AM YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER IN 2013 WHEN I CAME HERE ON AUGUST THE
10:30:09AM 8th, AND I LEFT MY HUSBAND IN THE HOSPITAL WHO HAD JUST
10:30:15AM BEEN TOLD THAT HE HAD CANCER BECAUSE HE INSISTED BECAUSE HE
10:30:19AM KNEW HOW I FELT ABOUT THIS, AND I WAS RIGHT.
10:30:22AM I WAS RIGHT TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
10:30:24AM I GOT BEATEN UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE VISION, AND HERE WE
10:30:28AM ARE SIX YEARS LATER, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A TOWER.
10:30:32AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: MS. CAPIN, IF YOU'LL RECALL, THIS
10:30:35AM PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS TIED UP IN LITIGATION FOR
10:30:39AM TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WHICH PREVENTED THEM FROM MOVING
10:30:41AM FORWARD.
10:30:41AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BUT THEY SOLD IT.
10:30:43AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: EXCUSE ME?

10:30:44AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT WAS SOLD.
10:30:45AM IT CHANGED HANDS.
10:30:47AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: ACTUALLY, THEY TOOK ON ANOTHER PARTNER.
10:30:52AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT COMING BACK TO US TO
10:30:55AM HOLD OFF ON COLLECTING OUR FUNDS THAT THEY CAN MAKE MORE
10:31:02AM MONEY WHILE THE TAXPAYERS ARE STILL WAITING.
10:31:06AM GUESS WHAT, THE RENTS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA ARE COMING DOWN
10:31:12AM BECAUSE IT'S OVERHEATED, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO -- THIS IS
10:31:20AM -- ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IS
10:31:22AM GETTING THEIR FINANCING, AND THE CITY IS GOING TO HELP THEM
10:31:25AM WITH THAT.
10:31:26AM THE TAXPAYERS ARE WAITING FOR THE MONEY AND THE CITY WILL
10:31:29AM HELP THEM GET THEIR FINANCING.
10:31:31AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: SAYS WHO, MS. CAPIN?
10:31:33AM THERE HAS BEEN NO REQUEST TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP
10:31:35AM ANYBODY WITH FINANCING?
10:31:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THERE MIGHT NOT BE A REQUEST BUT WHY HAVEN'T
10:31:39AM THEY GOTTEN THEIR FINANCING?
10:31:40AM WHERE IS THE FINANCING?
10:31:42AM WHY HASN'T IT HAPPENED?
10:31:43AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE OR NOT.
10:31:45AM YOU DO, MS. CAPIN?
10:31:46AM BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW.
10:31:47AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DO NOT KNOW IT.
10:31:49AM I KNOW IT HASN'T STARTED AND IT'S SIX YEARS LATER.

10:31:51AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: MS. CAPIN, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO START
10:31:54AM DURING THE BROADWAY SERIES.
10:31:55AM THE BROADWAY SERIES IS NOW CLOSED.
10:31:57AM THEY ARE PREPARED TO CLOSE AND START ON THE WORK.
10:32:00AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HOW MANY BROADWAY SERIES IN SIX YEARS WERE
10:32:02AM THERE?
10:32:03AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: FOUR.
10:32:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, EXACTLY.
10:32:06AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: AND PREVENTED TWO AND A HALF OF THEM BY
10:32:09AM LAWSUIT.
10:32:12AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ALL I HEAR ARE EXCUSES ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
10:32:16AM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHATEVER COMES BEFORE US NOW, I'M NOT
10:32:24AM VOTING FOR IT.
10:32:25AM WE WAITED SIX YEARS.
10:32:29AM I WILL WAIT AND I WILL HAVE THE NEXT COUNCIL LOOK AT IT.
10:32:33AM I THINK THAT SOME FRESH EYES NEED TO BE ON THIS THING
10:32:39AM BECAUSE I FOR ONE WILL NOT VOTE ON IT.
10:32:41AM THIS WAS A HUGE ERROR TO PUT THIS BUILDING ON 1.1 ACRES.
10:32:51AM BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
10:32:53AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:32:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL GOT ANY QUESTIONS
10:32:57AM OR COMMENTS?
10:32:58AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:33:01AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THANK YOU.
10:33:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL GO TO OUR 10:30.

10:33:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU WANT TO HANDLE ITEM
10:33:07AM 78 AT THIS POINT?
10:33:08AM MIGHT AS WELL GET IT OFF THE AGENDA.
10:33:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE FOR
10:33:13AM ITEM 78 TO APRIL 4 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:33:16AM >> SECOND.
10:33:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:33:18AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:33:18AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:33:20AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:33:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP ITEMS I THINK
10:33:25AM 71 THROUGH 73.
10:33:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
10:33:30AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:33:31AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:33:32AM OPPOSED?
10:33:33AM IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON ITEM 71 OR 72, PLEASE
10:33:40AM STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:33:43AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:33:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 71.
10:33:51AM >> THANK YOU.
10:33:52AM REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:33:53AM WE ARE HERE TODAY ON A HEARING PURSUANT TO CITY OF TAMPA
10:33:57AM CODE SECTION 27-318C FOR CONSIDERATION OF SUSPENSION FOR
10:34:03AM CAUSE OF AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT.

10:34:06AM THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
10:34:08AM IF CITY COUNCIL WILL RECALL, AT THE LAST HEARING, CITY
10:34:11AM COUNCIL MADE A MOTION THAT PASSED FINDING THAT UNDER SECTION
10:34:20AM 27-318C HAVE BEEN VIOLATED FOR THIS PARTICULAR ALCOHOLIC
10:34:24AM BEVERAGE PERMIT.
10:34:27AM SPECIFICALLY THAT THE CONDITIONS, LIMITATIONS AND
10:34:28AM RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL IDENTIFIED BY
10:34:32AM STAFF HAD BEEN VIOLATED.
10:34:36AM CITY COUNCIL THEN CONTINUED THE HEARING TO TODAY'S DATE TO
10:34:38AM CONSIDER THE PENALTY PHASE.
10:34:39AM CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST VIOLATION THAT
10:34:42AM HAS BEEN FOUND FORMALLY BY CITY COUNCIL, HAS THE ABILITY TO
10:34:47AM SUSPEND UP TO 30 DAYS.
10:34:48AM THAT INCLUDES THE ABILITY NOT TO SUSPEND AT ALL.
10:34:50AM SO THERE CAN BE NO SUSPENSION OR A SUSPENSION UP TO 30 DAYS.
10:34:54AM THERE ARE THREE CRITERIA THAT CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED UNDER
10:34:56AM THE CODE TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON.
10:34:59AM IT IS THE GRAVITY OF THE VIOLATION, ANY ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE
10:35:03AM VIOLATOR TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION, AND ANY PREVIOUS
10:35:06AM VIOLATIONS COMMITTED BY THE VIOLATOR.
10:35:08AM I'LL PASS OUT A BLOWN-UP COPY OF THAT SO IT'S VERY EASY FOR
10:35:11AM CITY COUNCIL TO REFERENCE.
10:35:12AM AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CITY COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED AN
10:35:22AM UPDATE FROM CITY STAFF AS TO WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED IN THE LAST
10:35:27AM 30 DAYS.

10:35:28AM WE HAVE CATHERINE COYLE, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, WHO IS HERE
10:35:32AM TO SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL AS CAPTAIN NEIL FROM THE
10:35:35AM PERSPECTIVE OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:35:37AM IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I DO SUGGEST YOU HEAR FROM BOTH
10:35:39AM THE VIOLATOR AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR YOUR TYPICAL THREE
10:35:42AM MINUTES APIECE FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:35:44AM THANK YOU.
10:35:47AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CATHERINE COYLE,
10:35:49AM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY.
10:35:52AM WHAT MR. SHELBY HANDED OUT TO YOU, THERE IS A ONE-PAGE
10:35:56AM DOCUMENT I PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU JUST TO MAKE A QUICK
10:36:00AM SYNOPSIS.
10:36:01AM AT THE TOP IS THE ITEM FROM TODAY'S AGENDA.
10:36:02AM THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MOTION THAT YOU MADE, WHICH MS. KERT
10:36:07AM REFERENCED.
10:36:08AM THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ACTUAL SNAPSHOT FROM THE SITE PLAN,
10:36:14AM FROM THE NOISE MITIGATION PLAN, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE
10:36:18AM OUTSIDE LANGUAGE FOR THE FOAM PANELS, AND THE SELF-CONTAINED
10:36:25AM INDIVIDUAL CONTROLS.
10:36:27AM THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST IS MARCH 20th, 2019.
10:36:31AM THE SITE INSPECTION I PERFORMED WITH THE CHIEF BUILDING
10:36:34AM INSPECTOR, TROY CHAVEZ.
10:36:37AM I DID INCLUDE A FEW PICTURES THAT I TOOK AS WELL.
10:36:42AM WE WALKED THE SITE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND POINTED OUT ALL
10:36:49AM THE ISSUES WITH THE TWO ITEMS OF THE SELF-CONTROLLED

10:36:53AM INDIVIDUALIZED CONTROLS FOR SPEAKERS AND THE FOAM PANELS.
10:36:57AM THESE ARE PICTURES FROM YESTERDAY.
10:36:59AM THEY WENT AHEAD AND SCULPTED THE FOAM PANELS TO THE GATE
10:37:03AM WHICH WAS MISSING PRIOR TO THAT.
10:37:05AM YOU CAN SEE ON THE INSIDE ALL THE FOAM PANELS ARE GREEN.
10:37:07AM THIS IS UNDER THE BAR CABANA.
10:37:13AM THERE IS ONE SPEAKER REMAINING ON THE SITE, AND THERE IS AN
10:37:17AM INDIVIDUALIZED CONTROL JUST ON THE INSIDE OF THIS WALL FOR
10:37:23AM THE BAR.
10:37:24AM BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE SPEAKER ON THE SITE THAT WE COULD SEE.
10:37:29AM THIS IS THE NORTHERN WALL OF THE BUILDING, WHERE THERE USED
10:37:33AM TO BE SPEAKERS MOUNTED.
10:37:36AM ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
10:37:37AM THAT'S A FAN THERE.
10:37:39AM AND THEN THIS IS THE BACK WALL TO THE WEST.
10:37:42AM ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS WALL AND THEY PAINTED IT BLACK FOR
10:37:46AM UNIFORMITY.
10:37:47AM YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN PANELS KIND OF ON THE SIDE.
10:37:49AM THESE ARE FANS.
10:37:50AM ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS WOODEN SOLID FENCE WALL, THEY'VE
10:37:54AM LINED IT WITH PANELS, WITH THE FOAM PANELS AS WELL.
10:37:57AM THE ONLY PLACES WHERE THERE ARE OPENINGS THAT I COULD SEE
10:38:00AM FROM THE FOAM PANELS, BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY UNIFORM, WAS
10:38:04AM ESSENTIALLY WHERE THERE ARE HAND HOLES FOR THE GATE SO YOU
10:38:07AM COULD ACTUALLY OPEN IT.

10:38:09AM SAME WITH THE OUTSIDE GATE TOWARDS TYLER.
10:38:13AM AND THEN LITTLE GAPS AT THE BOTTOM HERE AND THERE WHERE
10:38:15AM THERE'S JUST LIKE AN INCH OR TWO SO IT DOESN'T HIT THE
10:38:18AM GROUND AND GET WATER DAMAGE.
10:38:20AM THE SITE OBSERVATIONS THAT WE MADE WAS THE SURROUNDING
10:38:26AM PERIMETER OF THE OUTSIDE PATIO IS LINED WITH FOAM PANELS,
10:38:28AM PLACED IN BETWEEN THE CONCRETE BLOCK PILLARS WHICH APPEAR TO
10:38:31AM BE PAINTED IN A MEDIUM DARK GREEN ON THE INTERNAL FACE AND
10:38:34AM BLACK ON THE EXTERNAL FACE.
10:38:36AM IT'S SCREENED WITH PODOCARPUS SHRUBS ON THE OUTSIDE AS WELL.
10:38:42AM ONE SELF-CONTAINED INDIVIDUAL CONTROL FOR THE ONE REMAINING
10:38:45AM SPEAKER WHICH IS MOUNTED UNDER THE BAR'S CABANA CANOPY.
10:38:49AM AGAIN, MS. KERT GAVE YOU THE BLOWN-UP VERSION OF IT.
10:38:52AM I INCLUDED IT IN THIS DOCUMENT FOR EASE OF REFERENCE AS
10:38:54AM WELL.
10:38:55AM SECTION 27-318.
10:38:57AM I PUT IN BOLD, ITALICS, THE UP TO 30 DAYS FOR THE FIRST
10:39:00AM OFFENSE.
10:39:00AM SO 0 TO 30, AND THEN THE THREE CRITERIA THAT YOU CONSIDER
10:39:05AM FOR YOUR DECISION.
10:39:07AM I'M AVAILABLE.
10:39:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THERE'S NO LEEWAY FOR A FINANCIAL FINE?
10:39:15AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: NO.
10:39:17AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO IT'S 0 OR 30?
10:39:20AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: 0 TO 30.

10:39:22AM ANYTHING IN BETWEEN.
10:39:26AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO HEAR THE IMPROVEMENTS --
10:39:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MS. COYLE, I NOTICED ON THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH
10:39:32AM YOU HAVE, THE FENCE IS BEVELED -- I DON'T KNOW IF BEVELED IS
10:39:38AM THE RIGHT WORD.
10:39:40AM BUT IT'S IN A V THERE.
10:39:41AM ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY?
10:39:43AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THAT IS ACTUALLY THE SHAPE OF THE WROUGHT
10:39:45AM IRON.
10:39:45AM THEY JUST SCULPTED IT.
10:39:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I DON'T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT ANYTHING.
10:39:50AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THEY SCULPTED IT TO THE FRAME.
10:39:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
10:39:55AM THANK YOU.
10:39:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: APPLICANT?
10:40:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:40:01AM CATHERINE O'DONNELLY, 2002 WEST CLEVELAND STREET HERE ON
10:40:06AM BEHALF OF FRANKLIN MANOR.
10:40:07AM FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION
10:40:11AM AGAIN THAT WE WERE PROVIDED THIS 30-DAY WINDOW TO CONTINUE
10:40:15AM WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON
10:40:19AM THE SAME PAGE.
10:40:20AM THAT WAS VERY MUCH THE GOAL IN MOVING FORWARD, AND WE
10:40:23AM THOUGHT WE WERE THERE LAST TIME, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
10:40:25AM TWEAKS NECESSARY, AND THROUGH MULTIPLE SITE INSPECTIONS AND

10:40:29AM A LOT OF COMMUNICATION, WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY
10:40:34AM AND TELL YOU THAT WE ARE INDEED ON THE SAME PAGE.
10:40:37AM I HAVE HERE COCOUNSEL ERIC KOENIG, HE IS GOING TO WALK
10:40:42AM THROUGH SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
10:40:43AM HE'S BEEN OUT THERE JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND SO I
10:40:47AM THINK HE'S IN A GOOD POSITION TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO
10:40:51AM THE CURRENT STATUS.
10:40:55AM >> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING.
10:40:56AM MY NAME IS ERIC KOENIG FROM TRENAM LAW.
10:40:59AM I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:41:01AM ONE IS THE CURRENT STATUS, TWO TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL'S
10:41:04AM QUESTION ABOUT IS ANYTHING BEING DONE ABOVE AND BEYOND
10:41:07AM WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE SITE PLAN?
10:41:09AM AND THEN LASTLY, THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR
10:41:13AM CONSIDERATION IN THE PUNISHMENT PHASE.
10:41:14AM FOR START, I HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS I WOULD LIKE IN EVIDENCE.
10:41:18AM I HAVE A COPY FOR EVERYONE.
10:41:20AM HERE IS A VIEW OF WHAT THESE AREAS LOOK LIKE NOW, THAT THE
10:41:34AM IDEA IS THERE WOULD BE CABANAS THAT ULTIMATELY WOULD BE
10:41:38AM BUILT AND SPECIFIED AND PERMITTED UNDER WHICH THERE WILL BE
10:41:42AM A SPEAKER INDIVIDUALLY CONTROLLED.
10:41:45AM AND AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE HAS BEEN CONCERNED, APPROXIMATELY
10:41:48AM ONE WEEK AFTER THE LAST HEARING, THERE WAS AN INSPECTION OF
10:41:52AM THE PROPERTY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND IT WAS DETERMINED
10:41:56AM THAT THE CABANAS THAT THE FRANKLIN MANOR HAD PAID TO HAVE

10:42:00AM BUILT, THAT THE PERSON WHO BUILT THE CABANAS HAD ADVISED
10:42:05AM THAT THESE ARE TO BE TREATED AS FURNITURE.
10:42:07AM THEY DON'T NEED TO BE PERMITTED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BOLTED
10:42:10AM DOWN.
10:42:10AM THEY ARE READILY MOVABLE.
10:42:11AM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA SAID, I
10:42:13AM DISAGREE.
10:42:14AM THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PERMITTED.
10:42:16AM OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE CITY, WITHIN THE NEXT 24, 48 HOURS,
10:42:19AM THE CABANAS STARTED COMING DOWN, AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY
10:42:22AM DOWN, AND THEY ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS THAT ALL OF THE
10:42:27AM DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN DONE AND THE PERMITTING PHASE WILL START
10:42:29AM EITHER BY TOMORROW OR EARLY NEXT WEEK, AND THE CABANAS WILL
10:42:33AM BE IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S AT REMEDY.
10:42:35AM SO THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, IDENTICAL ONES APPROVED
10:42:39AM BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, SO WE FEEL OPTIMISTIC THOSE WILL GO
10:42:42AM THROUGH AS WELL.
10:42:42AM THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE FOAM ITSELF HAS BEEN
10:42:50AM PAINTED TO MATCH THE SURROUNDING CONDITIONS, AND THIS WAS
10:42:53AM SOMETHING DONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:42:55AM REQUIRED UNDER THE SITE PLAN THAT THE FOAM ITSELF IS A
10:42:59AM BRIGHT PURPLE PINK, AND YOU CAN SEE AS YOU FLIP THROUGH THAT
10:43:04AM THESE HAVE BEEN PAINTED EITHER GREEN OR BLACK, AND YOU'LL
10:43:08AM ALSO NOTICE RIGHT HERE THAT THE FOAM DOESN'T JUST TRACK THE
10:43:13AM WROUGHT IRON.

10:43:14AM THE FOAM ACTUALLY TRACKS ACROSS THE COLUMNS, SO IT'S EVEN
10:43:18AM HIGHER THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
10:43:21AM AND THEN THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR HANDOUT SHOWS YOU THE
10:43:27AM THICKNESS OF THE FOAM, THAT THIS IS DOUBLE THICKNESS ON
10:43:31AM EITHER SIDE, AND THE PREEXISTING FOAM WASN'T MOVED OR TAKEN
10:43:35AM DOWN.
10:43:36AM SO IT'S FOAM AND FOAM AND FOAM RUNNING THROUGH THAT.
10:43:40AM AND, AGAIN, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND
10:43:43AM WHAT WAS REQUIRED UNDER MERELY DECORATIVE FOAM.
10:43:46AM THEY BASICALLY PURCHASED SOME OF THE THICKEST FOAM YOU COULD
10:43:49AM BUY AND INSTALLED IT.
10:43:52AM IN ADDITION, THERE'S A HEDGE THAT YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN THAT
10:43:54AM LAST SECTION.
10:43:55AM THEY ARE ALLOWING THE HEDGE NOW TO GROW UP AND OVER THE FOAM
10:43:59AM TO ACT AS ADDITIONAL BUFFER.
10:44:01AM BEFORE THAT WAS BEING TRIMMED.
10:44:03AM THAT WAS BEING PRUNE, AND NOW IT'S BEING ALLOWED TO GROW
10:44:07AM EVEN MORE SO.
10:44:08AM FRANKLIN MANOR CANCELED THEIR ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARTY, WHICH
10:44:11AM IS TYPICALLY AN OUTDOOR BLOCK PARTY.
10:44:13AM ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE.
10:44:17AM AND LASTLY, THEY INSTALLED FOAM BEHIND THE ONLY EXISTING
10:44:21AM SPEAKER TO ACT ONCE AGAIN AS ANOTHER BUFFER.
10:44:24AM AND REALLY ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE MEANT TO SHOW THAT
10:44:28AM FRANKLIN MANOR IS BEING RESPONSIBLE AND TAKING ACTIONS ABOVE

10:44:31AM AND BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED.
10:44:32AM AS FAR AS THE PUNISHMENT PHASE IS CONCERNED, AS YOU ALL ARE
10:44:37AM AWARE, THAT YOU ARE TO CONSIDER THE GRAVITY OF THE
10:44:40AM VIOLATION, THE ACTIONS TAKEN TO CORRECT, AND THE PREVIOUS
10:44:43AM VIOLATIONS, AS THERE HAVE BEEN NO PREVIOUS VIOLATIONS BEFORE
10:44:46AM YOU, AND THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE FRANKLIN MANOR AT GREAT
10:44:52AM EXPENSE.
10:44:53AM THEY BUILT UP THE CABANAS ONLY TO TAKE THEM DOWN INSTEAD OF
10:44:56AM ARGUING OVER WHOSE RIGHT IS THIS FURNITURE?
10:44:59AM IS IT A FIXTURE.
10:45:00AM THEY TOOK EVERYTHING DOWN OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE CITY AND
10:45:03AM THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO BUILD THESE
10:45:05AM THINGS AGAIN.
10:45:06AM THERE HAVE BEEN NO NOISE VIOLATIONS.
10:45:08AM THERE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS.
10:45:11AM AND THEY PROVED THAT THEY CAN BE RESPONSIBLE.
10:45:15AM BASED ON THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DO NOT ISSUE
10:45:19AM ANY SUSPENSION, THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO ACT
10:45:23AM RESPONSIBLY TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO RECOUP SOME OF
10:45:26AM THE MONEY THEY'VE BEEN SPENDING IN MAKING THESE
10:45:30AM MODIFICATIONS MOVING FORWARD TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
10:45:32AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:45:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU MENTIONED LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS GOING TO
10:45:41AM SPEAK, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
10:45:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:45:50AM CAPTAIN NEIL, TPD.
10:45:51AM I CAN CONFIRM THAT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CALLS FOR SERVICE
10:45:53AM OF NOISE OR THAT KIND OF NUISANCE THAT HAD BEEN THERE
10:46:00AM HISTORICALLY.
10:46:00AM AND THERE ARE, WITH THAT SAID, NO VIOLATIONS TO GO WITH
10:46:03AM THAT.
10:46:03AM THAT'S ALL.
10:46:06AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXCUSE ME.
10:46:07AM DID YOU SAY YOU CAN'T CONFIRM?
10:46:09AM >> I CAN CONFIRM.
10:46:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT.
10:46:13AM THANK YOU.
10:46:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. COYLE, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF
10:46:21AM STAFF?
10:46:23AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: CATHERINE COYLE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
10:46:26AM AGAIN.
10:46:26AM WE GENERALLY RECOMMEND THE STANDARD 30 DAYS, BUT IT IS UP TO
10:46:30AM COUNCIL BASED ON THE THREE CRITERIA.
10:46:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:46:32AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 71?
10:46:37AM >> YES.
10:46:37AM GOOD MORNING.
10:46:38AM MY NAME IS ETHAN LOEB.
10:46:40AM I WAS BEFORE YOU ABOUT A MONTH AGO WHERE I SHARED WITH YOU A
10:46:44AM LOT OF WHAT I WOULD CALL THE SALACIOUS E-MAILS THAT YOU HAD

10:46:47AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW.
10:46:49AM THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THIS MORNING PUBLISHED IN THE TAMPA BAY
10:46:52AM BUSINESS JOURNAL RECAPPING WHAT HAPPENED A MONTH AGO.
10:46:57AM SOME OF YOU FINE FOLKS WERE QUOTED.
10:47:00AM COUNCILMAN COHEN, YOU WERE QUOTED AS SAYING THIS WAS A
10:47:03AM WILLFUL NONCOMPLIANCE.
10:47:04AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOUR REFERENCE TO THE GODFATHER NO
10:47:08AM LONGER BEING IN THIS TOWN WAS ALSO QUOTED.
10:47:11AM THAT BUSINESS JOURNAL ARTICLE IS OUT FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS
10:47:15AM TOWN TO SEE.
10:47:16AM AND WE ARE AT A STAGE RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE HAS TO BE SOME
10:47:22AM MESSAGE SENT TO THE GENERAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT IF YOU
10:47:25AM ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE, WHICH THEY WERE, AND IT TOOK
10:47:30AM THEM A MONTH -- OR A YEAR AND A HALF TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
10:47:33AM IT AND THEY ONLY DID IT BECAUSE THEY WERE FORCED TO COME
10:47:36AM BEFORE YOU, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MESSAGE, WHETHER IT'S 30
10:47:38AM DAYS, WHETHER IT'S A DAY, WHETHER IT IS SOMETHING, THIS
10:47:43AM COUNCIL NEEDS TO SEND A MESSAGE TO BUSINESS OWNERS
10:47:48AM EVERYWHERE, THAT IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES,
10:47:51AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE CITED BY THE POLICE FOR VIOLATING THE
10:47:56AM ORDINANCE, TIME AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, THAT THAT
10:48:00AM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THIS TOWN.
10:48:03AM IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU ALLOW THESE FOLKS TO GET AWAY WITH
10:48:06AM THIS, WITHOUT ANY PUNISHMENT AT ALL, YOU ARE SENDING A VERY
10:48:11AM CLEAR MESSAGE TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT IT IS OKAY TO COME IN

10:48:15AM AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BY CITY STAFF TO COME INTO
10:48:19AM COMPLIANCE, THAT YOU CAN THUMB YOUR NOSE AT STAFF TIME AND
10:48:23AM AGAIN, AND THEN COME IN AFTERWARDS AND SAY, LOOK AT WHAT
10:48:28AM WE'VE DONE.
10:48:30AM PLEASE DON'T HOLD US RESPONSIBLE.
10:48:32AM THAT'S NOT HOW I WAS RAISED AS A KID.
10:48:36AM MY MOM TOLD ME, IF YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG, THERE'S GONNA BE
10:48:40AM A PUNISHMENT FOR IT.
10:48:40AM YOU-ALL SHOULD DO THE SAME THING.
10:48:44AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
10:48:47AM QUESTIONS.
10:48:47AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:48:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
10:48:49AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:48:50AM I AGREE.
10:48:53AM THERE WAS A VIOLATION AND WE WERE VERY GENEROUS IN OFFERING
10:48:58AM THE 30 DAYS FOR CORRECTION.
10:49:01AM THAT WAS VERY GENEROUS OF THIS COUNCIL.
10:49:04AM HOWEVER, I FEEL THAT THEY DID VIOLATE, AND THAT -- WE CAN'T
10:49:16AM HAVE THAT.
10:49:17AM WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE TAKING A YEAR AND A HALF TO CORRECT
10:49:22AM WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS SAID NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
10:49:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BUT BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR ALONG, LET'S SEE
10:49:32AM IF ANYBODY ELSE -- BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:49:35AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.

10:49:36AM THAT WAS PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:49:37AM SORRY.
10:49:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK
10:49:40AM ON ITEM 71?
10:49:41AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY NOW.
10:49:43AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:49:44AM I'M NOT GOING TO ASK AGAIN.
10:49:53AM >> I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME FOR DAVID ANDERSON AND CHRIS
10:49:59AM ANDERSON, PLEASE.
10:50:03AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: COUNCIL?
10:50:05AM MS. -- COUNSEL?
10:50:06AM MS. O'DONNELLY.
10:50:08AM CAN YOU COME UP, IS THIS PERSON RELATED IN ANY WAY OR A
10:50:10AM MEMBER --
10:50:12AM >> YES.
10:50:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
10:50:13AM WE WANT TO KNOW FOR TIME PURPOSES.
10:50:15AM YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
10:50:16AM WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
10:50:18AM >> I DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WORKED.
10:50:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT
10:50:22AM HAPPENS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
10:50:24AM THANK YOU.
10:50:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO HE'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE REBUTTAL?
10:50:33AM >> IT APPEARS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS FROM

10:50:37AM THE PUBLIC.
10:50:38AM I THINK IT'S FINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THIS COMMENT
10:50:42AM AS PART OF THE REBUTTAL.
10:50:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:50:44AM WE'LL DO THAT.
10:50:46AM YOU HAVE THIS FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
10:50:50AM START THE CLOCK.
10:50:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
10:50:54AM I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME.
10:50:55AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE --
10:50:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:50:58AM >> LANFRANCO PESCANTE, ONE OF THE OWNERS AND FOUNDERS OF
10:51:03AM FRANKLIN MANOR AND NOCTURNAL GROUP.
10:51:05AM I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME.
10:51:07AM I WAS ON-SITE.
10:51:08AM WE HAD A VISIT FROM OPPOSING COUNSEL FOR THE ACTUAL LAWSUIT.
10:51:11AM WHEN WE TOOK FRANKLIN MANOR, THAT ENTIRE BLOCK WAS PRETTY
10:51:17AM MUCH DESERTED AND WE REALLY RISKED OUR ENTIRE LIFE INTO
10:51:23AM DOING THAT, ME AND DAVID ANDERSON.
10:51:24AM WE PUT OUR ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS, WE TOOK LOANS, WE DID
10:51:30AM EVERYTHING WE KIND OF HAD TO DO TO DO THAT.
10:51:33AM I ACTUALLY WATCHED ALL YOU GUYS.
10:51:33AM I HEARD EVERY COMMENT.
10:51:35AM TOOK THEM VERY SERIOUSLY.
10:51:38AM I'VE NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW.

10:51:40AM I HAVE MANY, MANY POLICE OFFICERS, ARMY, FRIENDS, JUST THE
10:51:44AM POLICE OFFICER OUTSIDE, HE WORKED AT FRANKLIN MANOR MANY
10:51:46AM TIMES.
10:51:46AM WHEN I WAS WATCHING YOU GUYS AND HEARD ALL THE COMMENTS, I
10:51:49AM HEARD SOME TIMELINES AND SOME THINGS THAT DIDN'T REALLY
10:51:52AM MATCH WITH ANYTHING THAT REALLY HAPPENED.
10:51:55AM YOU KNOW, WE WERE APPROVED AS FRANKLIN MANOR AS IT WAS.
10:52:00AM ZONING WAS THERE, BUILDING WAS THERE, EVERYBODY WAS THERE.
10:52:03AM THEY WALKED THE SPACE.
10:52:05AM THEY CAME ON-SITE.
10:52:06AM THEY APPROVED US, AND THEY LET US OPEN FOR A YEAR AND A
10:52:11AM HALF.
10:52:11AM THEY WERE ALL THERE.
10:52:13AM THE MAYOR WAS THERE CUTTING THE RIBBON.
10:52:15AM I OPENED THIS BUSINESS IN A DESERTED BLOCK WHEN IT DIDN'T
10:52:22AM MATTER AND I WAS THERE.
10:52:23AM I TOOK A CHANCE ON THE BLOCK.
10:52:24AM THERE ARE MANY FLOURISHING BUSINESSES.
10:52:29AM A TOWER.
10:52:30AM I HAVE THREE MORE BUSINESSES IN THE SAME BLOCK AND IT'S A
10:52:32AM BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S COMING AROUND.
10:52:34AM NOW, THE BUILDING ACROSS, 915, THAT'S CURRENTLY SUING US,
10:52:38AM THEY PICKED US AS THOSE THREE, THE ITALIAN RESTAURANT, AS
10:52:44AM THE ANCHOR TENANT OF THEIR BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS
10:52:48AM OF FRANKLIN MANOR.

10:52:49AM THAT IS A FACT.
10:52:49AM SO WE HAD ALL THESE BUILDINGS.
10:52:51AM AGAIN, TIMELINE, WE OPENED A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, WE GOT
10:52:55AM THE FIRST LETTER.
10:52:56AM WE WERE SHOCKED ABOUT THE LETTER BECAUSE WE WERE APPROVED BY
10:53:00AM THIS ENTIRE, BY THE ZONING, BY THE BUILDING, EVERYTHING WAS
10:53:04AM RUNNING PROPERLY.
10:53:04AM SO, YES, I WAS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED.
10:53:08AM E-MAILS WENT AROUND.
10:53:09AM I'M EMBARRASSED ABOUT THEM.
10:53:10AM I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS.
10:53:11AM I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY I TOOK THEM.
10:53:14AM THAT'S NOT HOW I ACT AND NOT HOW I'LL EVER ACT AGAIN.
10:53:18AM YOU MADE A COMMENT, MS. CAPIN, ABOUT YOU LEARNED IN JUNIOR
10:53:21AM HIGH NOT TO WRITE THINGS DOWN.
10:53:23AM MAYBE I LEARNED AT THE LAST MEETING NOT TO WRITE THINGS
10:53:26AM DOWN.
10:53:26AM THAT IS WHERE I CAME FROM, FROM THAT INTERPRETATION.
10:53:30AM YOU MADE A COMMENT, MR. MIRANDA, TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE'S
10:53:34AM NO INTERPRETATION ON THIS.
10:53:36AM THEY SHOULD DO IT FOR EVERY OTHER BUSINESS OWNER THAT COMES
10:53:39AM ALONG.
10:53:39AM WE SAW SOME THINGS AND TALKED ABOUT FOAM.
10:53:42AM WHAT IS FOAM?
10:53:43AM WHAT TYPE OF FOAM IS IT?

10:53:45AM HOW THICK IS IT?
10:53:47AM IS IT ACOUSTIC BLOCK?
10:53:48AM THERE ARE A MILLION TYPES OF FOAMS.
10:53:51AM WE HAD FOAM ON THERE, AND THEY SAW IT.
10:53:53AM THEY CAN SIT HERE AND SAY THEY DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT IT WAS
10:53:56AM THERE AND THEY LET US RUN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF ON THE FOAM.
10:54:01AM SPEAKERS, THE SAME RIGHT SIDE, THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY WHAT
10:54:06AM SPEAKERS.
10:54:07AM THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY HOW BIG THEY WERE ON ANYTHING ABOUT
10:54:09AM THAT.
10:54:10AM THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ANY OF THAT.
10:54:12AM SO WE RAN THINKING WE WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THAT
10:54:16AM LONG.
10:54:16AM THEN WE RECEIVED LETTERS AND THEN IT WENT ON AND THEN I
10:54:19AM HIRED A LAWYER BECAUSE I AM NOT EXPERT TO BE ABLE TO TALK
10:54:22AM ABOUT THAT.
10:54:23AM AND I HAD A LAWYER EVER SINCE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT.
10:54:28AM WHEN I MET WITH YOU GUYS ALONE, SOME OF YOU GUYS, AND I
10:54:33AM WANTED TO MEET EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU AS
10:54:36AM A BUSINESS OWNER TO BRING MORE BUSINESSES?
10:54:38AM ONE OF MY MAIN THINGS, A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT TO HOSPITALITY
10:54:41AM PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY YOUNG ONES LIKE US.
10:54:43AM WE DON'T COME FROM MONEY ME AND DAVE.
10:54:45AM WE CAME FROM NOTHING.
10:54:46AM I BUILT THAT BUSINESS STRAIGHT FROM NOTHING, WITH HAVING

10:54:48AM NOTHING.
10:54:49AM SO A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT FOR HOSPITALITY ONES, A LITTLE MORE
10:54:53AM CLARITY WHEN YOU DO HAVE THESE SITE PLANS SO WE CAN DO THE
10:54:58AM RIGHT THING TO FOLLOW.
10:55:00AM LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO ASK FOR, I GUESS -- ONCE AGAIN,
10:55:06AM BECAUSE I DO HAVE 50 PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE AND THEY LOVE
10:55:09AM FRANKLIN MANOR AND A MANY MORE BUSINESSES TO COME.
10:55:13AM SO THANK YOU.
10:55:15AM >> THANK YOU IN THE LAST 30 SECONDS OR SO I WANT TO GO DOWN
10:55:18AM THE CRITERIA FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, AND I AGREE WITH MR. LOEB
10:55:22AM THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, A MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE
10:55:26AM SENT.
10:55:26AM MY MOM TAUGHT ME, THERE'S STILL SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT
10:55:30AM REHABILITATION, THAT HERE, IF WE DID NOTHING OR DID AN OKAY
10:55:35AM JOB AT FIXING SOMETHING, THEN THE PENALTY SHOULD BE ASSESSED
10:55:38AM IN FULL.
10:55:39AM THE WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CORRECTED.
10:55:41AM THERE'S EVEN A QUESTION WHETHER WE WERE IN VIOLATION IN THE
10:55:43AM EYES OF THE CITY FOR OVER A YEAR, AND THEREFORE WE ASK THAT
10:55:47AM NO PUNISHMENT BE METED OUT AND ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE MOVING
10:55:51AM FORWARD WITH THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS.
10:55:53AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:55:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: REBUTTAL TIME IS UP.
10:55:57AM MS. KERT, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE GO TO
10:56:00AM DISCUSSION?

10:56:00AM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:56:04AM I DID PASS OUT TWO SAMPLE MOTIONS.
10:56:05AM ONE IS FOR NO SUSPENSION AND ONE IS FOR A SUSPENSION UP TO A
10:56:08AM TOTAL OF 30 DAYS.
10:56:10AM JUST TO RECAP, CITY COUNCIL HAS FOUND THE VIOLATION.
10:56:12AM SO IF ANOTHER VIOLATION COMES BEFORE YOU, THE PENALTY PHASE
10:56:15AM WOULD BE UP TO 60 DAYS.
10:56:17AM IT ESCALATES UP TO A POSSIBLE REVOCATION.
10:56:20AM SO THE FIRST STEP WAS TO FIND THE VIOLATION.
10:56:22AM THE OTHER THING THAT I DID WANT TO NOTE, IF A SUSPENSION IS
10:56:27AM FOUND, WE TYPICALLY ASK FOR AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS BEFORE IT
10:56:31AM STARTS, BOTH TO ALLOW US TO NOTIFY THE STATE AND TO PROVIDE
10:56:37AM NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE
10:56:42AM PLANS.
10:56:42AM THANK YOU.
10:56:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
10:56:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SHE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
10:56:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
10:56:48AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:56:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT HAS BEEN
10:56:54AM INVESTED IN BRINGING THIS INTO COMPLIANCE AND CHANGES HAVE
10:56:57AM BEEN MADE THAT HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN
10:56:59AM THE PHOTOS FROM BEFORE AND AFTER.
10:57:01AM I THINK THE BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE -- ALTHOUGH IT TOOK, WHAT,
10:57:05AM A YEAR AND A HALF, WHATEVER IT IS, I LOOK AT IT AS WHAT IS

10:57:11AM THE POINT OF SUSPENDING THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT AT
10:57:14AM THIS POINT SINCE THEY MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, YOU
10:57:20AM KNOW, CHANGES HAVE BEEN MET.
10:57:22AM THEIR LESSONS HAVE BEEN LEARNED, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
10:57:25AM IT.
10:57:26AM WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO AT THIS POINT SUSPENDING THE ALCOHOLIC
10:57:28AM BEVERAGE?
10:57:30AM THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.
10:57:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
10:57:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:57:33AM STATEMENTS WERE MADE BUT WHAT GOT ME THE MOST IS THE
10:57:41AM LANDLORD SENT HIM AN E-MAIL AND THEY BLEW HIM AWAY ALSO.
10:57:44AM THEY MOVED THAT PERSON LIKE, WHO'S HE?
10:57:48AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
10:57:50AM THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG SOMEWHERE THAT -- AND I SAID
10:57:53AM EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID, I SAID.
10:57:55AM I QUESTIONED THE CITY, WHAT IS FOAM?
10:58:00AM QUARTER OF AN INCH?
10:58:01AM 8th OF AN INCH, TWO FEET?
10:58:04AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:58:04AM IS IT RIGHT?
10:58:05AM THE VIOLATION OCCURRED WHEN SUCCESS BECAME YOUR FAILURE.
10:58:13AM WHEN THE NEIGHBORS COULDN'T -- STARTED COMPLAINING ABOUT THE
10:58:18AM NOISE.
10:58:19AM YOU KNOW WHAT?

10:58:20AM THEY WERE BLOWN OFF ALSO.
10:58:21AM AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?
10:58:23AM I'M NOT ASKING YOU.
10:58:25AM JUST THINK ABOUT IT.
10:58:30AM IF THE CITY WAS WRONG, EVEN IF MY PARENTS WERE TELLING ME
10:58:32AM SOMETHING WRONG AND I KEPT DOING WHAT I WAS DOING, IN MY
10:58:36AM MIND, THEY ARE RIGHT BECAUSE THEY WERE MY PARENTS.
10:58:41AM NO MATTER WHAT GOVERNMENT IT IS, FIND OUT AS YOU GO ALONG.
10:58:44AM DON'T WAIT A YEAR AND A HALF TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:58:47AM I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES WERE.
10:58:49AM WHEN YOU GOT THE FIRST ONE, FIND OUT WHAT THEY WERE.
10:58:51AM SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:58:53AM WE'RE ALL GROWN-UPS.
10:58:54AM WE'RE NOT KIDS PLAYING AT CUSCADEN PARK ANYMORE.
10:58:58AM SO WE HAD TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT POINT.
10:59:02AM YOU BLEW THE CITY OFF.
10:59:03AM YOU BLEW THE LANDOWNER OFF.
10:59:05AM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT BOTHERED ME.
10:59:07AM THE LANDLORD MORE THAN THE CITY.
10:59:10AM YOU DISRESPECTED WHOEVER GAVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.
10:59:13AM THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST.
10:59:16AM BUT I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS FROM THIS COUNCIL, AND THIS WILL
10:59:22AM BE AFTER THIS ONE, THE NEXT ONE IS YOUR SECOND VIOLATION.
10:59:26AM SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO GET OFF EASY, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOW,
10:59:31AM THE SECOND ONE IS UP TO 60 DAYS.

10:59:34AM NO BUSINESS CAN BE CLOSED FOR 60 DAYS AND SUCCEED.
10:59:37AM SO JUST THINK OF THAT.
10:59:39AM I'M NOT YOUR FATHER TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.
10:59:43AM I'M JUST YOUR COUNCILOR ADVISING YOU WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND
10:59:46AM MAYBE WILL HAPPEN IF YOU HAVE A SECOND VIOLATION.
10:59:49AM SO BE AWARE OF THE FACTS, BE AWARE OF THE UNKNOWN.
10:59:55AM BE RESPECTFUL TO OTHERS AS THEY ARE TO YOU AND THINGS WILL
10:59:59AM WORK OUT.
10:59:59AM YOU HAVE A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND YOU'LL HAVE OTHER
11:00:01AM BUSINESSES THERE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
11:00:03AM SO THINK ABOUT YOURSELF FIRST AND THINK WHAT YOU MAY OR MAY
11:00:07AM NOT BE DOING TO SOMEBODY ELSE, EVEN IF YOU'RE DOING
11:00:10AM SOMETHING RIGHT AND YOU'RE ACCUSED OF IT, AT LEAST GO TALK
11:00:14AM TO THEM.
11:00:15AM YOU THINK WE LIKE TO HEAR EVERYTHING HERE?
11:00:18AM YOU THINK THE PARTIES THAT COME HERE LIKE TO HEAR WHAT WE
11:00:22AM SAY?
11:00:23AM NO.
11:00:24AM BUT THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING ON BOTH SIDES THAT COME TO A
11:00:27AM CONCLUSION OF REASONABLENESS THAT YOU CAN SOLVE A PROBLEM,
11:00:29AM AND THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
11:00:31AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:00:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA.
11:00:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:00:35AM YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT CAME

11:00:39AM INTO GETTING THIS ENTERPRISE UP, AND THAT'S NOT A PLAY.
11:00:43AM I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS A TRULY
11:00:47AM SUCCESSFUL ENTERPRISE AND ENDEAVOR THAT TOOK THE REAL -- YOU
11:00:52AM LOOK UP ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN THE DICTIONARY AND YOU'LL
11:00:54AM PROBABLY FIND THIS ESTABLISHMENT THERE.
11:00:56AM I DON'T THINK THAT IS A PLAY HERE AT ALL.
11:01:01AM WHAT SADDENS ME IS THAT IT TOOK ALL THIS TROUBLE AND TIME
11:01:05AM FOR US TO GET HERE FOR SOME MOVEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
11:01:09AM FOR THEM COOPERATION AND SOME REMEDIES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:01:11AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE TO THESE
11:01:17AM LENGTHS.
11:01:17AM WHEN I HEAR THAT THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY EVENT WAS CANCELED,
11:01:20AM YES, THAT COST THE BUSINESS SIGNIFICANT MONEY, BUT THINK
11:01:23AM ABOUT THE REAL VICTIMS OR ONE OF THE REAL VICTIMS WE DON'T
11:01:26AM HEAR ABOUT, THE EMPLOYEES.
11:01:27AM WHEN I HEAR ABOUT REMEDIES TAKEN AT GREAT EXPENSE
11:01:31AM DISPROPORTIONATELY, THAT EXPENSE IS ALSO BORNE BY THE
11:01:35AM EMPLOYEES.
11:01:35AM WE ALL KNOW THAT.
11:01:36AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IN DISPUTE.
11:01:39AM I DO THINK THAT SOME SORT OF A FORMAL SUSPENSION IS IN
11:01:44AM ORDER.
11:01:44AM THE LEVEL OF IT I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE
11:01:48AM OBVIOUSLY IN DIALOGUE, BUT I THINK THAT SOMETHING IS
11:01:50AM CERTAINLY IN ORDER GIVEN THE GRAVITY OF THE ISSUES THAT

11:01:53AM WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
11:01:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
11:01:56AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU.
11:01:57AM ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I KNOW I WANTED 30 DAYS TO CONSIDER
11:02:01AM THIS WAS SO THAT THE EMOTION FROM THE LAST HEARING COULD DIE
11:02:04AM DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT
11:02:08AM REMEDIAL MEASURES HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
11:02:12AM BUT THAT SAID, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING AS
11:02:15AM THE EMERGING SENTIMENT UP HERE, WHICH IS THIS DOES HAVE TO
11:02:19AM HAVE A CONSEQUENCE.
11:02:21AM WE CANNOT DO NOTHING AS A RESULT OF THIS MATTER.
11:02:25AM AND I THINK THAT WHERE I'M HEARING EVERYONE GOING IS WHAT IS
11:02:28AM THE LENGTH OF THE SUSPENSION THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE?
11:02:32AM WE DON'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS, AND WE DON'T
11:02:35AM WANT PEOPLE TO BE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE AS A
11:02:39AM RESULT OF A LOSS OF INCOME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO
11:02:42AM SEND A MESSAGE THAT OUR RULES HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED AND OUR
11:02:46AM STAFF AND OUR PROCESSES HAVE TO BE RESPECTED.
11:02:49AM SO MY OWN SENSE IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SUSPENSION.
11:02:55AM IT SHOULD NOT BE 30 DAYS, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING.
11:02:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
11:02:59AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:03:01AM IT'S MARCH MADNESS AND THE BASKETBALL TEAMS ARE GOING TO
11:03:04AM LINE UP TODAY.
11:03:04AM THE THING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN SOME OF THE FOLKS

11:03:07AM THAT WERE TALKING WAS SNATCHING VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF
11:03:10AM DEFEAT.
11:03:10AM BUT I REVERSE IT, SNATCHING VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF -- I
11:03:14AM MEAN, DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY.
11:03:16AM I WILL TELL YOU, AFTER EVERYTHING WE HEARD IN THE FIRST
11:03:21AM HEARING, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HEARD TODAY NEAR THE END
11:03:24AM HERE, THERE IS NO DOUBT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME
11:03:29AM ON THERE.
11:03:29AM I KNOW NO ONE HAS COME UP WITH A TIME FRAME, AND I, IN MY
11:03:35AM MIND, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, 5 AND 15
11:03:41AM DAYS AT THE MOST.
11:03:41AM FOR ME, I WOULD SAY 10 DAYS.
11:03:47AM AND SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS
11:03:50AM NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
11:03:52AM I MEAN, IT WASN'T AS IF THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES
11:03:55AM OUT THERE.
11:03:55AM AND EVEN MR. LOEB REPRESENTING ONE OF THE CLIENTS AGAINST
11:04:00AM THIS, HAD NO COMMENT ABOUT WHAT THEY PUT INTO IT NOW.
11:04:04AM WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
11:04:05AM THAT IS A GREAT THING.
11:04:06AM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT,
11:04:09AM AND THE COST BORNE WOULD HAVE BEEN SPREAD OUT OVER THE
11:04:12AM COURSE OF A YEAR AND A HALF HAD IT BEEN DONE THE FIRST TIME.
11:04:15AM IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS OF A
11:04:19AM HIT ON THEM FINANCIALLY.

11:04:20AM BUT WE HAVE TO SEND A SIGNAL THAT WHEN WE PUT THESE RULES IN
11:04:23AM PLACE, THAT THEY HAVE TO COME FORWARD.
11:04:25AM AS MS. KERT SAID, THIS IS ALREADY CONSIDERED A FIRST
11:04:29AM VIOLATION.
11:04:30AM VIOLATION ITSELF, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PARTY ON
11:04:33AM ST. PATRICK'S DAY, I'M SURE THEY WERE OPEN.
11:04:36AM I BET THEY WERE SELLING ALCOHOL THEN.
11:04:39AM I'M SURE THEY MADE SOME MONEY.
11:04:42AM I WOULD HOPE THEY DID.
11:04:43AM IF NOTHING ELSE, I THINK THE MINIMUM SHOULD BE AT LEAST TEN
11:04:47AM DAYS.
11:04:47AM THAT'S MY OWN OPINION.
11:04:50AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:04:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY OF MY COLLEAGUES
11:04:53AM HERE, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
11:04:54AM I DO AGREE.
11:04:57AM YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR THIS EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND
11:05:04AM PROBABLY STILL DIDN'T GET RESOLVED, WE HAVE TO SEND SOME
11:05:10AM TYPE OF MESSAGE.
11:05:11AM I DO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, MR. SUAREZ, 10 DAYS I THINK IS
11:05:15AM FAIR ENOUGH.
11:05:15AM 30, I THINK WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR A BUSINESS THAT'S TRYING
11:05:24AM TO MAINTAIN EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE
11:05:27AM EMPLOYEES.
11:05:28AM THEY ARE NOT GETTING PAID.

11:05:29AM AND THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO LOSE MONEY, BUT THESE EMPLOYEES
11:05:33AM ARE NOT GETTING PAID.
11:05:34AM AND THEY ARE NOT MAKING THE MAXIMUM SALARY, I'M PRETTY SURE.
11:05:41AM AND A LOT OF THEM PROBABLY COME FROM --
11:05:49AM I WOULD SUPPORT TEN DAYS, AND MS. CAPIN, I KNOW YOU HAD A
11:05:53AM MOTION, SO I YIELD TO YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.
11:05:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
11:05:56AM YES, SIR, THE EMPLOYEES IS A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR.
11:06:01AM WHAT I'M READING HERE, THE BUSINESS WILL BE OPEN --
11:06:07AM [ NO ENCODER ]
11:06:29AM [ NO ENCODER ]
11:06:29AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: -- 914 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET FOR TEN DAYS,
11:06:33AM SUCH SUSPENSION BEGINNING SEVEN DAYS FROM TODAY WHICH WOULD
11:06:37AM BE THE 28th.
11:06:38AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: I CALCULATED THAT.
11:06:39AM WE WOULD SAY MARCH 29th AT 7 A.M.
11:06:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MARCH 29.
11:06:44AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: OTHERWISE, IF YOU START THE DAY BEFORE,
11:06:46AM IT IS 3 A.M.
11:06:47AM IT'S WEIRD TO DO THAT.
11:06:48AM MARCH 29th AT 7 A.M.
11:06:51AM TEN DAYS FROM THAT WOULD BE APRIL 8th AT 3 A.M., WHICH IS
11:06:54AM THE CONTINUATION OF THE 7th TO WRAP THE ALCOHOL HOURS.
11:06:56AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: LET'S START ON THE MONDAY, THE FOLLOWING
11:06:59AM MONDAY.

11:06:59AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE FOLLOWING MONDAY IS THE 1st.
11:07:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PERFECT.
11:07:09AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: APRIL 1st AT 7 A.M.
11:07:13AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: APRIL 1st AT 7 A.M.
11:07:15AM THAT'S MY MOTION, FOR TEN DAYS.
11:07:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:07:25AM SCHOOLED BY PARENTS, PEERS, TEACHERS AND NEIGHBORS.
11:07:30AM TIME YOU GOT HOME, YOU KNEW WHAT WAS COMING.
11:07:34AM EVERYBODY KNEW IT BY THE TIME YOU GOT HOME.
11:07:37AM IN MY FAMILY AND I'M SURE IN YOURS ALSO.
11:07:40AM I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TEN DAYS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN A BUSINESS,
11:07:42AM YOU LIKE TO HAVE A CALENDAR.
11:07:44AM AND THE CALENDAR WILL FALL IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING.
11:07:46AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR SEVEN DAYS
11:07:49AM FROM A MONDAY TO A SUNDAY SO THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE
11:07:53AM EMPLOYEES, AT LEAST KNOW THEY ARE COMING BACK TO WORK WHEN
11:07:56AM YOU START DOING THIS, THE PUBLIC IS NOT ONLY THE ONES THAT
11:07:59AM ARE GOING TO GET HURT, IT IS THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THERE
11:08:02AM THAT ARE GOING TO GET HURT THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO HALF A
11:08:05AM WEEK.
11:08:05AM WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY ONLY GET PAID A HALF A WEEK'S
11:08:08AM SALARY.
11:08:08AM AND THEY ALL HAVE THINGS TO DO, BILLS TO PAY LIKE THE REST
11:08:12AM OF US, NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO PAY RENT AND CAR INSURANCE
11:08:15AM AND AUTOMOBILES AND SO FORTH AND FOOD, BUT -- AND I'M NOT

11:08:18AM OPPOSED TO THE TEN DAYS, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO
11:08:21AM CONSIDER SEVEN DAYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AT LEAST NOW
11:08:25AM UNDERSTOOD, IN MY MIND, ANYWAY, THAT WHEN YOU WERE GROWING
11:08:29AM UP AND YOUR PARENTS GAVE YOU AN ULTIMATUM, THAT WAS THE
11:08:33AM ULTIMATUM.
11:08:34AM I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE THE PARENTS OF ALL THESE.
11:08:35AM I'M SAYING NOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE NEXT ONE COMING IS
11:08:38AM NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS FOR THE FIRST ONE.
11:08:40AM IT'S UP TO 60 DAYS, NOT 30.
11:08:42AM THEY HAVE MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
11:08:44AM CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE FINES ARE HIGHER.
11:08:46AM WE WORE THEM DOWN BECAUSE WE WANT THINGS TO BE DONE RIGHT.
11:08:50AM NOT MONEY.
11:08:51AM IT'S ABOUT DOING IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
11:08:53AM SO MAYBE THEY LEARNED A LESSON.
11:08:54AM I HOPE THEY HAVE.
11:08:55AM I THINK THEY HAVE, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION
11:08:59AM FOR SEVEN DAYS BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
11:09:01AM GOING TO GET WORSE HURT THAN THE BUSINESS.
11:09:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S
11:09:06AM WHERE I WAS HEADING.
11:09:08AM ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED IT TO APRIL 1st SO IT WOULD BE
11:09:11AM ONE WEEK AND -- IT WOULD BE ONE WEEKEND AND NOT TWO
11:09:15AM WEEKENDS.
11:09:15AM IF IT WAS THE 29th, IT WOULD BE TWO WEEKENDS.

11:09:19AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: JUST FOR COUNCIL'S REFERENCE, APRIL 1st
11:09:21AM AT 7 A.M. WOULD END ALSO APRIL 8th AT 3 A.M. FOR A SEVEN
11:09:27AM DAY.
11:09:27AM SO THAT -- IT WOULD BE THAT MONDAY TO MONDAY.
11:09:33AM JUST SO YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD.
11:09:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT WOULD BE THE SAME WEEKEND AS OPPOSED TO
11:09:39AM MIDDLE OF THE WEEK.
11:09:40AM MY CONCERN IS THE EMPLOYEES ALSO.
11:09:43AM I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE GENEROUS TO THE EMPLOYEES,
11:09:45AM BUT WE DO HAVE TO SEND A MESSAGE.
11:09:47AM I WILL AGREE TO YOUR --
11:09:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.
11:09:53AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I ACCEPT YOUR SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR SEVEN
11:09:56AM DAYS.
11:10:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA,
11:10:04AM AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE MAKER OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION,
11:10:08AM MS. CAPIN, AND SECONDED BY THE ORIGINAL MOTION --
11:10:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES IT NEED TO BE READ AGAIN FOR CLARITY
11:10:16AM PURPOSES OR ARE YOU SATISFIED?
11:10:18AM >>REBECCA KERT: I THINK YOU READ IT AND THEN YOU HAVE
11:10:20AM AMENDED IT, SO I THINK IT'S CLEAR.
11:10:22AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
11:10:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
11:10:27AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION --
11:10:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I APOLOGIZE FOR

11:10:32AM INTERRUPTING.
11:10:33AM THEY ARE CLOSED ON MONDAYS ANYWAY.
11:10:37AM YOU'RE REALLY GIVING THEM A SIX-DAY SUSPENSION.
11:10:44AM IT MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
11:10:47AM PLACE THAT.
11:10:48AM I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE MOST RESTAURANTS ARE
11:10:50AM CLOSED ON MONDAYS.
11:10:52AM I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, I THINK WE'RE
11:10:54AM ONLY GIVING THEM A SIX-DAY SUSPENSION.
11:10:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
11:10:59AM I'M LAUGHING AT MYSELF BECAUSE AT MY OTHER JOB, I JUDGE
11:11:06AM HORSE RACING.
11:11:07AM AND WHEN WE SUSPEND A RIDER, WE SUSPEND THEM FOR CALENDAR
11:11:08AM DAYS, NOT RIDING DAYS.
11:11:10AM WE ONLY RACE ON WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
11:11:12AM IF I SUSPEND YOU ON A SUNDAY, GUESS WHAT, YOU'RE NOT GETTING
11:11:15AM A FULL -- YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO LOSE THREE DAYS INSTEAD OF
11:11:18AM THE SEVEN.
11:11:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S LIKE WHEN THEY SUSPEND A BASEBALL
11:11:21AM PITCHER FOR FIVE DAYS, WE KNOW THAT.
11:11:23AM MY SUGGESTION, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.
11:11:28AM I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
11:11:29AM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE START ON THE 2nd THROUGH THE
11:11:32AM 9th.
11:11:32AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: TUESDAY TO TUESDAY.

11:11:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BUT I THINK THAT'S ONLY
11:11:36AM FAIR TO MAKE IT A REAL SEVEN DAYS.
11:11:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ACCEPT IT.
11:11:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU ACCEPT IT.
11:11:42AM I ACCEPT IT.
11:11:43AM WE'RE GOOD.
11:11:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THE DATES RIGHT.
11:11:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE THE DATES?
11:11:48AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:11:52AM >> IT MOVES THE MONDAY OVER.
11:11:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: JUST ADD A DAY TO IT.
11:11:59AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: LET'S LEAVE IT THE 1st THROUGH THE 8th.
11:12:08AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: APRIL 1st AT 7 A.M. THROUGH APRIL 8th
11:12:11AM 3 A.M.
11:12:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NOW THE ORIGINAL SUBSTITUTE MOTION, RIGHT?
11:12:16AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: RIGHT.
11:12:17AM ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL SUBSTITUTED MOTION?
11:12:21AM APRIL THE 1st THROUGH APRIL THE 8th, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:12:24AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:12:28AM THOSE OPPOSED?
11:12:30AM >> NAY.
11:12:33AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
11:12:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:12:36AM ITEM NUMBER 72.
11:12:53AM >> THE CLERK SHOULD ALREADY HAVE ONE.

11:12:55AM ONE FOR EACH COUNCIL PERSON.
11:12:58AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:13:00AM YOU ARE HERE FOR A REVIEW HEARING ON A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
11:13:03AM DENIAL OF A SPECIAL USE REQUEST.
11:13:05AM I HAVE PASSED OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS AND ERIC COTTON IS HERE TO
11:13:09AM PRESENT THE CASE.
11:13:12AM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD MORNING.
11:13:14AM ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:13:16AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:13:17AM THIS IS AN APPEAL BY ALVARO RODRIGUEZ.
11:13:23AM HE WAS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ORIGINAL SPECIAL USE.
11:13:24AM THE REQUEST IS TO PUT AN APARTMENT BUILDING, MULTIFAMILY USE
11:13:28AM ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ON
11:13:31AM TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET.
11:13:35AM THIS WAS A SPECIAL USE 1.
11:13:41AM SU-1-19-02.
11:13:44AM IT WAS DENIED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
11:13:45AM THERE IS PROVISION IN THE CITY CODE, RM-16 ALLOWS
11:13:49AM MULTIFAMILY USE AS A SPECIAL USE.
11:13:51AM SO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:13:53AM THERE ARE TWO CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET.
11:13:55AM ONE IS IT SHOULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ON TO AN ARTERIAL OR
11:13:59AM COLLECTOR STREET, AS SHOWN ON THE MAJOR STREET MAP.
11:14:01AM THE SECOND ONE, IT HAS TO MEET RM-24 STANDARDS FOR SETBACKS
11:14:06AM AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.

11:14:07AM THIS REQUEST IS ON 15th AVENUE.
11:14:08AM 15th AVENUE IS A LOCAL STREET.
11:14:12AM BECAUSE OF THAT REQUIREMENT, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IS
11:14:14AM REQUIRED TO DENY THE REQUEST.
11:14:17AM THE ONLY WAIVER THEY ARE ASKING FOR ON THIS SITE PLAN THAT
11:14:21AM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE ACCESS TO A COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL
11:14:26AM ROAD.
11:14:26AM IF THAT'S GRANTED, THE APPLICANT CAN THEN MOVE INTO THE
11:14:29AM PERMITTING STAGES.
11:14:31AM THERE ARE SOME CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BY THE SITE
11:14:32AM PLAN.
11:14:33AM THOSE ARE NOT WAIVERS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
11:14:35AM THOSE WILL BE HANDLED AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
11:14:39AM THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
11:14:45AM THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.
11:14:50AM AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:14:52AM AND THIS IS THE -- THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE
11:14:56AM SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:14:57AM AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, ACROSS THE STREET IS VACANT.
11:15:00AM THE ACCESS WOULD BE COMING OUT THROUGH 15th AVENUE TO
11:15:03AM 52nd STREET TO COLUMBUS DRIVE.
11:15:06AM THIS IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT IT IS
11:15:10AM MULTIFAMILY.
11:15:11AM AND THE REST OF THE PROPERTY AROUND IT IS VACANT.
11:15:13AM DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

11:15:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:15:18AM NONE AT THIS TIME.
11:15:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
11:15:23AM THIS IS BY VIRTUE OF THE LAND BEING LAND LOCKED,
11:15:27AM ESSENTIALLY, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO ACCESS IT, BUT THE
11:15:30AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THAT
11:15:34AM BASED ON THE RULES, CORRECT?
11:15:36AM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
11:15:37AM SPECIAL USE CRITERIA CANNOT BE WAIVED BY STAFF.
11:15:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: GOT IT.
11:15:40AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
11:15:41AM THANK YOU.
11:15:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:15:43AM ALL RIGHT.
11:15:45AM PETITIONER?
11:15:45AM THAT'S YOU, SIR.
11:15:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:15:59AM MY NAME IS YUNIOR.
11:16:01AM I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
11:16:02AM MY NAME IS YUNIOR RIVERO.
11:16:08AM I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
11:16:10AM ME AND MY FATHER, WE HAVE A DREAM TO TRY TO GET A
11:16:16AM MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSES IN TAMPA.
11:16:19AM 15 DAYS AFTER THIS DENIAL FOR A SPECIAL USE, HE PASSED AWAY,
11:16:26AM AND THEN I JUST TRIED TO GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED TO SEE IF

11:16:30AM THEY CAN HELP ME OUT TO COME HERE AND PRESENT AND TRY TO GET
11:16:35AM AN APPROVAL FOR THAT SPECIAL USE.
11:16:38AM AND NOBODY GIVE ME A HAND.
11:16:41AM I JUST DECIDED TO COME HERE AND TALK TO YOU GUYS TO SEE IF
11:16:46AM IT'S GOING TO BE A POSSIBILITY TO KEEP GOING WITH THIS
11:16:50AM PROJECT.
11:16:51AM PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
11:16:56AM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THIS HERE.
11:17:03AM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE.
11:17:10AM WE'VE GOT SEVEN LOTS.
11:17:12AM TOTAL AN ACRE.
11:17:13AM THE NEXT PROPERTY NEXT TO THAT ONE IS A DUPLEX.
11:17:17AM AND PRETTY MUCH NOT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS OR NOTHING.
11:17:24AM I DON'T THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL.
11:17:31AM I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE A LOT OF IMPACT FOR THE
11:17:33AM TRAFFIC-WISE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:17:35AM AND THEN SEE IF YOU GUYS CAN HELP TO GET THAT APPROVAL.
11:17:40AM WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD RIGHT HERE.
11:17:43AM WE'RE GOING TO DO 16 UNITS.
11:17:50AM FOUR ON THE BOTTOM, FOUR ON THE TOP, AND WITH ALL THE
11:17:55AM PARKING AND EVERYTHING AND TRY TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE, THAT
11:18:00AM WAY PEOPLE CAN LIVE THERE.
11:18:01AM TWO WITH TWO BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS.
11:18:07AM THIS IS OUR FIRST PROJECT.
11:18:08AM I HOPE IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE.

11:18:10AM WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET MORE PROPERTIES IN TAMPA.
11:18:15AM THANK YOU.
11:18:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:18:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY -- IT'S NOT THAT NO
11:18:23AM ONE WANTED TO HELP YOU.
11:18:24AM THEY COULDN'T HELP YOU.
11:18:26AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT HOLDING THEM RESPONSIBLE
11:18:29AM BECAUSE -- [SPEAKING SPANISH]
11:18:32AM >> I UNDERSTAND.
11:18:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: APPEAL TO THIS BOARD TO HAVE IT CORRECTED
11:18:36AM OR LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.
11:18:38AM I WANT TO SET THAT RECORD STRAIGHT.
11:18:40AM >> YES, NO PROBLEM.
11:18:41AM I UNDERSTAND.
11:18:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
11:18:45AM ITEM NUMBER 72?
11:18:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:18:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:18:50AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:18:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:18:53AM OPPOSED?
11:18:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I CAN TAKE THIS ONE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
11:18:56AM I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF
11:18:59AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SU-1-19-02 BECAUSE PETITIONER

11:19:04AM HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION, IF THE WAIVERS ARE
11:19:07AM GRANTED, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS
11:19:09AM SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-129, SEE SECTION 27-61B AND
11:19:16AM 27-127B-2.
11:19:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:19:21AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:19:23AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:19:25AM THOSE OPPOSED?
11:19:25AM MOTION CARRIED.
11:19:28AM THANK YOU.
11:19:28AM LET ME JUST GET SOME CLARITY.
11:19:31AM DID WE MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS 5, 59, 60 AND 61?
11:19:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL MOTION FOR IT.
11:19:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE THOSE ITEMS.
11:19:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST DELINEATE.
11:19:49AM THE ACTION WOULD BE TO REMOVE ITEM 5 AND TO CONTINUE ITEMS
11:19:53AM 59, 60, AND 61 TO APRIL 4th, 2019, UNDER THE COMMITTEE
11:19:58AM REPORTS.
11:19:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO MOVED.
11:20:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST STATED IT FOR THE RECORD.
11:20:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT ITEMS 59, 60, 61
11:20:13AM ARE CONTINUED TO APRIL 4th, 2019.
11:20:16AM AND THAT ITEM NUMBER 5 WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
11:20:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
11:20:24AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.

11:20:26AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:20:28AM OPPOSED?
11:20:28AM INFORMATION REPORTS, MR. SUAREZ.
11:20:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 73, I'M SORRY.
11:20:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REMOVE TO RESCHEDULE THE HEARING ON ITEM
11:20:43AM 73 TO MAY 16, THE YEAR 2019, AT 10:30 A.M.
11:20:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:20:50AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:20:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:20:52AM OPPOSED?
11:20:53AM INFORMATION REPORTS, MR. SUAREZ.
11:20:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR, NOTHING REALLY, OTHER THAN
11:20:59AM I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT MARCH MADNESS.
11:21:02AM NOT ABOUT ELECTIONS, THANKFULLY.
11:21:05AM WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD TEAMS, FLORIDA STATE, FLORIDA, AND
11:21:07AM UCF, MAYBE NOT UCF, BUT FLORIDA AND FLORIDA STATE ARE
11:21:11AM PLAYING TODAY, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL MAKE IT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE
11:21:15AM TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT.
11:21:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
11:21:18AM >>HARRY COHEN: NO THANK YOU, SIR.
11:21:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
11:21:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:21:23AM MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION FOR TAMPA PRIDE TO BE
11:21:26AM PRESENTED AT THE TAMPA PRIDE PARADE ON SATURDAY
11:21:28AM MARCH 30th, 2019.

11:21:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
11:21:32AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:21:33AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:21:35AM OPPOSED?
11:21:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A
11:21:39AM COMMENDATION TO BE PRESENTED TO STEFANI BEDDINGFIELD, CARLA
11:21:42AM JIMENEZ, AND REINER AND PREVIOUS OWNERS OF INKWOOD BOOKS FOR
11:21:52AM THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LOCAL LITERARY COMMUNITY IN TAMPA
11:21:52AM FOR NEARLY THREE DECADES.
11:21:52AM INKWOOD BOOKS IS CLOSING THEIR DOORS MARCH 31st.
11:21:55AM THIS IS TO BE PRESENTED THURSDAY, APRIL 25TH, 2019.
11:21:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:21:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:22:01AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:22:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:22:04AM OPPOSED?
11:22:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOUT-OUT TO THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
11:22:07AM FOR BEING THE FIRST TEAM IN THE NFL TO HAVE TWO FEMALE
11:22:11AM COACHES ON THEIR STAFF.
11:22:13AM THAT'S IT.
11:22:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HOPE THEY WIN.
11:22:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW THEY'LL WIN.
11:22:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
11:22:19AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOTHING, SIR.
11:22:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA?

11:22:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING, SIR.
11:22:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA.
11:22:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING MOTION-WISE.
11:22:24AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF THE ATTACKS THAT ARE
11:22:29AM OCCURRING RIGHT NOW IN TALLAHASSEE ON AMENDMENT 4.
11:22:32AM THE HOUSE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE HAS PASSED A BILL THAT
11:22:36AM COULD IMPACT THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF AMENDMENT 4
11:22:39AM NARROWING THE LANGUAGE OF THOSE WHO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE.
11:22:41AM THERE ARE VARIOUS PROVISIONS THAT WOULD NARROW THE SCOPE
11:22:44AM THAT I THINK VOTERS CLEARLY INTENDED FOR AMENDMENT FOUR,
11:22:49AM VOTERS, ABOUT TWO OUT OF THREE SPOKE VERY, VERY CLEARLY ON
11:22:52AM THIS ISSUE, AND NOW TALLAHASSEE INSTEAD OF DOING NOTHING ARE
11:22:56AM GOING FORWARD, IN FACT, GOING BACKWARDS ON THIS.
11:22:58AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO CONTACT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS
11:23:01AM IN TALLAHASSEE, INCLUDING OUR GOVERNOR, TO TELL THEM HANDS
11:23:03AM OFF AMENDMENT 4.
11:23:05AM NOTHING FURTHER.
11:23:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
11:23:09AM >> SO MOVED.
11:23:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:23:11AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:23:12AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:23:14AM WE STAND ADJOURNED.

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