TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 4, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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8:54:05AM
9:05:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOOD MORNING.
9:05:30AM WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:05:33AM ORDER.
9:05:34AM I'M GOING TO YIELD TO COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
9:05:38AM OH, YOU'RE DOING IT?
9:05:41AM MR. VIERA.
9:05:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD ASK FOR THE HONORABLE JUDGE GREG
9:05:44AM HOLDER TO PLEASE COME UP FOR THE MORNING PRAYER.
9:05:46AM JUDGE GREG HOLDER IS A JUDGE IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
9:05:51AM HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA.
9:05:52AM JUDGE HOLDER BEGAN HIS CAREER IN THE MILITARY.
9:05:54AM HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE FROM 1976 TO 1988
9:05:58AM AND THEN IN THE AIR FORCE RESERVE UNTIL 2004.
9:06:01AM HE SERVED IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, INCLUDING ENGINEER, PART
9:06:04AM OF THE LEGAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, ASSISTANT AND LATER DEPUTY
9:06:07AM CHIEF -- OR STRIKE THAT -- STAFF JUDGE ADVOCATE AREA DEFENSE
9:06:12AM COUNSEL AND A MILITARY JUDGE.
9:06:13AM HE'S ALSO A COLONEL IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE
9:06:16AM RETIRED.
9:06:17AM JUDGE HOLDER BEGAN HIS CIVILIAN LAW CAREER IN 1988 AND SIX
9:06:20AM YEARS LATER HE WAS ELECTED TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COURT
9:06:23AM WHERE HE TOOK OFFICE IN 1995.
9:06:25AM HE WAS ELECTED TO THE CIRCUIT COURT THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
9:06:28AM I LIKED JUDGE HOLDER SO MUCH THAT WHEN I WAS SWORN IN, I
9:06:32AM ASKED HIM TO SWEAR ME IN.
9:06:34AM IF EVERYBODY COULD PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE PRAYER AND REMAIN
9:06:37AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:06:38AM >> TODAY WE PRAY, O GOD, OUR FATHER, THE SEARCHER OF MEN'S
9:06:44AM HEARTS, HELP US TO DRAW NEAR TO THEE IN SINCERITY AND TRUTH.
9:06:49AM MAY OUR RELIGION BE FILLED WITH GLADNESS AND MAY THE WORSHIP
9:06:53AM OF THEE BE NATURAL.
9:06:55AM STRENGTHEN AND INCREASE OUR ADMIRATION FOR HONEST DEALING
9:06:58AM AND CLEAN THINKING AND SUFFER NOT OUR HATRED OF HYPOCRISY
9:07:02AM AND PRETENSE EVER TO DIMINISH.
9:07:04AM ENCOURAGE US IN OUR ENDEAVORS TO LIVE ABOVE THE COMMON LEVEL
9:07:08AM OF LIFE.
9:07:09AM MAKE US TO CHOOSE THE HARDER RIGHT INSTEAD OF THE EASIER
9:07:12AM WRONG AND NEVER TO BE CONTENT WITH A HALF-TRUTH WHEN THE
9:07:15AM WHOLE CAN BE ONE.
9:07:17AM ENDOW US WITH COURAGE THAT IS BORNE OF LOYALTY TO ALL THAT
9:07:20AM IS NOBLE AND WORTHY THAT SCORNS TO COMPROMISE WITH VICE AND
9:07:24AM INJUSTICE AND KNOWS NO FEAR WHEN TRUTH AND RIGHT ARE IN
9:07:28AM JEOPARDY.
9:07:28AM ALL OF WHICH WE ASK IN THE NAME OF THE GREAT FRIEND AND
9:07:32AM MASTER OF ALL, AMEN.
9:07:33AM >> AMEN.
9:07:34AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ROLL CALL.
9:07:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:07:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:08:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:08:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:08:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:08:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:08:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE
9:08:11AM AGENDA?
9:08:11AM MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:08:13AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:08:14AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
9:08:16AM OPPOSED?
9:08:17AM OKAY.
9:08:18AM WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:08:21AM ITEM NUMBER 1, MR. MIRANDA.
9:08:22AM >> WHERE IS GLORIA?
9:08:44AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:08:44AM OH, GLORIA.
9:08:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA
9:08:52AM CITY COUNCIL, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
9:08:55AM I GREW UP WITH GLORIA.
9:08:57AM DIFFERENT TIMES.
9:08:58AM I'M A LITTLE OLDER THAN HER, ABOUT 25 YEARS, AND GLORIA
9:09:01AM STARTED WAY BACK WHEN THERE WAS NO TVs HERE.
9:09:07AM I BELIEVE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, THERE
9:09:10AM WAS ONE PHONE.
9:09:12AM THERE WAS NO CITY COUNCIL OFFICES.
9:09:15AM I REMEMBER THERE WAS A MIMEOGRAPH MACHINE TO RUN OFF THE
9:09:20AM AGENDAS WITH.
9:09:21AM AND THROUGH ALL THAT, EVERY TIME GLORIA COMES HERE -- AND I
9:09:26AM HATE TO ADMIT TO THIS, BECAUSE SHE'S ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT
9:09:31AM I SHOULDN'T HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT I KEEP IT TO MYSELF -- WHEN
9:09:35AM SHE COMES TO THE PODIUM, I ALWAYS TRUST HER WISDOM, HER
9:09:39AM KNOWLEDGE, HER UNDERSTANDING, AND HER FAIRNESS ABOVE ALL.
9:09:43AM TODAY I'M PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL A
9:09:45AM COMMENDATION TO GLORIA MOREDA, IN RECOGNITION OF GLORIA
9:09:49AM MOREDA, DEPARTMENT COORDINATION MANAGER ON HER RETIREMENT
9:09:53AM FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FOR HER LOYALTY AND DEVOTION TO THIS
9:09:58AM COMMUNITY, SET AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF US TO EMULATE.
9:10:01AM WE HAVE PROUDLY -- SHE HAS PROUDLY SERVED THE CITY FOR 35
9:10:05AM YEARS WITH UNWAVERING PASSION AND DEDICATION.
9:10:08AM YOU HAVE BEEN A MENTOR AND A FRIEND TO COUNTLESS
9:10:11AM PROFESSIONALS AND CITIZENS, HELPING EACH OF THEM IMPROVE THE
9:10:15AM KNOWLEDGE OF THE TAMPA EVER-CHANGING ZONING CODE.
9:10:18AM DURING YOUR TENURE, YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED WITH
9:10:21AM ADMINISTRATION OF FIVE CITY MAYORS, INCLUDING THE HONORABLE
9:10:26AM BOB MARTINEZ WHO LATER BECAME THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF
9:10:29AM FLORIDA, SANDRA FREEDMAN, DICK GRECO, PAM IORIO AND BOB
9:10:34AM BUCKHORN.
9:10:35AM YOU HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY WORKING SO HARD FOR AT LEAST 35 OF
9:10:43AM THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:10:44AM I DON'T KNOW IF I EVER WORKED WITH 35, BUT YOU HAVE.
9:10:48AM THROUGHOUT THE ZONING PROCESS AND HELPING THEM MAKE SOUND
9:10:52AM DECISIONS.
9:10:52AM YOU HAVE EARNED THE REPUTATION OF BEING OUR LEGAL
9:10:55AM DEPARTMENT'S SECRET WEAPON, UNFLAPPABLE AND ON THE WITNESS
9:11:01AM STAND COOL, CALM, COLLECTED AND ALWAYS THE EPITOME OF A
9:11:06AM PROFESSIONAL CITY SERVANT IN CONTROL OF THE NUISANCE AND
9:11:10AM INTERPRETATION OF THESE LAWS AND CODES THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK
9:11:14AM WITH.
9:11:14AM AND FOR THAT REASON, GLORIA, I PROUDLY, BUT SADLY ALSO, SAD
9:11:19AM BECAUSE YOU'RE LEAVING THE CITY, ONE OF THE LOYALIST
9:11:23AM EMPLOYEES I'VE EVER WORKED WITH, FOR YOUR 35 YEARS OF
9:11:26AM SERVICE, THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDS YOU WITH THIS
9:11:31AM COMMENDATION TO GLORIA MOREDA FOR 35 YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:11:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:41AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:12:03AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: FOR ONCE, I GET TO ELBOW HER OFF OF THE
9:12:05AM PODIUM.
9:12:06AM GLORIA STARTED IN THE ZONING OFFICE 35 YEARS AGO, MORE OR
9:12:09AM LESS, AND IN SOME RESPECTS IT MAY SEEM LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS.
9:12:13AM IF YOU CAN IMAGINE DEALING WITH A SITUATION, A CONDITION, AN
9:12:17AM UNUSUAL EVENT, A DIFFICULT COMBINATION OF CIRCUMSTANCES,
9:12:20AM GLORIA HAS DEALT WITH IT.
9:12:22AM IF YOU CAN IMAGINE ANY CITY COUNCIL NOT RELYING UPON GLORIA
9:12:26AM FOR A MATTER OF FACT, STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER THAT WOULD BE
9:12:30AM GLORIA.
9:12:31AM CAN YOU IMAGINE BEGINNING TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF ISSUES
9:12:34AM SHE'S DEALT WITH AND THE NUMBER OF PETITIONS AND CITIZENS
9:12:37AM SHE'S ASSISTED?
9:12:38AM GLORIA HAS PROBABLY SEEN IT ALL.
9:12:41AM PERHAPS NOT EVERYTHING, BUT BEYOND THE IMAGINATION OF MOST
9:12:45AM OF THE PERCEPTION OF THE EVERYDAY CITIZEN.
9:12:48AM SHE'S CONSTANTLY WITHIN THE CORNERSTONE OF THE CITY'S LAND
9:12:51AM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, A CONSTANT AND VALUABLE RESOURCE,
9:12:56AM GLORIA IS WELL KNOWN FOR NEVER COLORING HER OPINION, TO
9:13:00AM CURRY FAVOR OR ASSUAGE SOME INFLUENTIAL GROUP OR PETITIONER
9:13:03AM OR THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT MATTER.
9:13:06AM EVEN HER OWN STAFF RECOGNIZES THAT HER OPINION IS "THE"
9:13:10AM DECISION REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT GOES.
9:13:12AM SHE'S MADE HER MARK.
9:13:14AM THE CITY SHE LOVES SO WELL AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE SHE'S
9:13:17AM INTERACTED WITH.
9:13:17AM A COURAGEOUS AND DEDICATED CITY EMPLOYEE WHO IS WELL KNOWN
9:13:21AM FOR COMMITMENT TO BEING FAIR AND REASONABLE.
9:13:24AM ONE MIGHT FAULT OR CHALLENGE THE DECISION; HOWEVER, NO ONE
9:13:28AM COULD EVER CHALLENGE HER INTEGRITY.
9:13:30AM GLORIA WORKED HER WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM LIVING AND LEARNING
9:13:33AM ITS INTRICACIES THROUGH HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE.
9:13:36AM THE CITY CODE HAS CHANGED NUMEROUS TIMES AND THROUGHOUT
9:13:39AM THOSE CHANGES GLORIA HAS REMAINED THE GO-TO PERSON.
9:13:42AM FOR ANSWERS, INTERPRETATIONS AND ANALYSIS.
9:13:46AM SHE'S BEEN THE STALWART MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA LEGAL
9:13:50AM TEAM AS THEIR EXPERT WITNESS.
9:13:52AM GLORIA HAS BEEN A FRIEND AND A FIXTURE OF THE CITY SINCE
9:13:55AM 1984.
9:13:56AM SHE CASTS A LONG SHADOW AND WILL LEAVE A LARGE HOLE TO BE
9:13:59AM FILLED BY HER SUCCESSOR.
9:14:00AM THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY STORIES AND EXPERIENCES TO BE TOLD
9:14:03AM AND RETOLD REGARDING GLORIA, BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT HER
9:14:07AM WORD IS HER BOND AND HER HONESTY BEYOND REPROACH.
9:14:11AM ENJOY YOUR WELL-DESERVED RETIREMENT.
9:14:13AM HOWEVER, MANY OF US RESERVE THE RIGHT TO ASSIST YOU IN YOUR
9:14:16AM RETURN TO CITY HALL.
9:14:17AM SHOULD YOU EVER GET BORED.
9:14:20AM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, I'M PROUD TO SAY AND CALL GLORIA MY
9:14:24AM FRIEND.
9:14:25AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EPITOMIZES GLORIA'S INTEGRITY AND
9:14:29AM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, MONSIGNOR HIGGINS ASKED TO WRITE TEN
9:14:34AM ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS OF WHAT MAKES A GREAT PERSON.
9:14:37AM AND THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING.
9:14:38AM DO MORE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY THAN IT ASKS OF YOU.
9:14:42AM GIVE MORE, TAKE LESS.
9:14:43AM LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND MAKE IT BETTER THAN THE PAST.
9:14:47AM DON'T BE AFRAID OF FAILURE.
9:14:49AM SUCCESS IS BUILT UPON FAILURE.
9:14:51AM BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE.
9:14:53AM SO MANY OTHERS HAVE LESS.
9:14:54AM NEVER FORGET YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:14:56AM MAINTAIN FAITH AND COURAGE.
9:14:58AM THEY ARE FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS THAT WILL SUSTAIN YOU.
9:15:00AM LOOK FOR THE BEST IN OTHERS AND YOU WILL FIND IT IN
9:15:04AM YOURSELF.
9:15:04AM STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE INSTILL HOPE, EMPOWER THE RIGHT,
9:15:08AM VANQUISH THE WRONG.
9:15:09AM LOVE, CARE, AND NURTURE YOUR FAMILY.
9:15:11AM IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE FUTURE GENERATION.
9:15:13AM GIVE THANKS TO GOD EVERY DAY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE.
9:15:16AM PRAY FREQUENTLY, LIVE HONESTLY.
9:15:18AM GLORIA HAS EPITOMIZED ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND FOR THAT I'M
9:15:22AM PROUD TO SAY SHE'S MY FRIEND.
9:15:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:31AM >> THESE ARE FROM YOUR STAFF, GLORIA.
9:15:47AM I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY BUT I'LL KEEP IT SHORT BECAUSE
9:15:53AM I DON'T WANT TO CRY.
9:15:54AM WE ALREADY CRIED A LOT THIS MORNING.
9:15:56AM EVERY ONE OF THESE FACES YOU SEE OUT HERE HAS BEEN TOUCHED
9:16:00AM BY THIS WONDERFUL PERSON, AND WE'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM
9:16:03AM HER.
9:16:05AM SHE'S MORE THAN A FRIEND TO A LOT OF US.
9:16:07AM SHE IS LIKE A MOTHER, A SISTER, A BEST FRIEND, AND SOMEONE
9:16:12AM WE GO TO WITH OUR PROBLEMS AND THE FIRST PERSON I CALL WHEN
9:16:18AM I NEED SOMETHING.
9:16:18AM SHE'S MENTORED ALL OF US IN DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER IT'S
9:16:24AM ZONING, TREES, LIFE, ANYTHING, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE THE
9:16:30AM SAME WITHOUT YOU.
9:16:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE YOU BEGIN, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO --
9:16:47AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:16:47AM -- IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING AT THIS TIME?
9:17:00AM >> CHARLIE AND STEVE SAID IT ALL, GLORIA, THE BEST ON BEHALF
9:17:06AM OF THE ASSOCIATION, THANK YOU.
9:17:08AM EVERYBODY TRUSTED YOU.
9:17:10AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:17:15AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:21AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE, COUNCIL.
9:17:23AM I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SAY TOO MUCH.
9:17:26AM I ALWAYS TRY TO BE VERY STOIC WHEN I'M BEFORE YOU.
9:17:33AM BUT I LOVE -- MY FAMILY IS HERE.
9:17:35AM THEY SUPPORTED ME BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, WORKING WITH
9:17:41AM COUNCIL, A LOT OF HOURS THAT GO INTO --
9:17:45AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:17:45AM -- BEING HERE, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR ME.
9:17:48AM I WISH MY MOTHER WAS HERE.
9:17:52AM SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MY LIFE.
9:17:57AM I'M FROM TAMPA.
9:17:58AM BORN AND RAISED HERE.
9:18:00AM GETTING THE JOB WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS A BLESSING.
9:18:05AM IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I FOUND THE WORK SO INTERESTING, BUT
9:18:09AM THE PEOPLE ARE WONDERFUL.
9:18:13AM AND MY STAFF, ALL OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D DO WITHOUT
9:18:17AM THEM.
9:18:19AM I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK THOM SNELLING WHO COULDN'T BE
9:18:23AM HERE TODAY, CATHY COYLE, THEY MEAN SO MUCH TO ME, ALL OF MY
9:18:32AM STAFF DOES.
9:18:33AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE RESPECT YOU'VE SHOWN MY STAFF.
9:18:35AM WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE FACE TIME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THAN
9:18:37AM JUST ABOUT ANYBODY, AND I KNOW WE DON'T TELL YOU WHAT YOU
9:18:41AM WANT TO HEAR ALL THE TIME, BUT WE TRY TO BE AS
9:18:45AM STRAIGHTFORWARD AS WE CAN.
9:18:48AM AND I APPRECIATE THE RESPECT YOU'VE SHOWN ME AND MY STAFF.
9:18:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FOR YOUR IMMEDIATE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY,
9:18:56AM WOULD YOU HAVE THEM STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED.
9:19:00AM MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY.
9:19:01AM YEAH, INTRODUCE THEM, PLEASE.
9:19:03AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: MY SON, BEN.
9:19:05AM MY HUSBAND, LARRY.
9:19:09AM AND THIS IS MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
9:19:13AM THAT'S PARKER DOWN THERE, AND KRISTEN.
9:19:16AM AND THEN I BELIEVE MY SISTER IS HERE, TOO.
9:19:20AM LYDIA AND HER HUSBAND.
9:19:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PLEASE STAND.
9:19:24AM IF YOU'RE HERE, PLEASE STAND.
9:19:27AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:37AM >>HARRY COHEN: GLORIA, SITTING UP HERE FOR THE PAST, IN MY
9:19:41AM CASE EIGHT YEARS AND IN SOME CASES, PEOPLE FOR LONGER, WE
9:19:44AM ARE CALLED UPON OFTEN TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
9:19:48AM AND NO ONE IN THIS CITY HAS BEEN MORE RELIABLE AS A VOICE OF
9:19:53AM REASON THAN YOU IN GIVING US GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF HOW TO
9:20:00AM PROCEED.
9:20:01AM I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE KEY TO IT, THE THING THAT I
9:20:04AM THINK TOTALLY DISTINGUISHES YOU IS THE LEVEL OF INTEGRITY
9:20:08AM AND ETHICS THAT YOU BRING TO EVERY DECISION THAT COMES UP
9:20:14AM HERE.
9:20:15AM THERE'S NOT ONE TIME IN THE THOUSANDS OF CASES THAT WE HAVE
9:20:18AM REVIEWED THAT ANYONE HAS EVER INTIMATED THAT THE OPINION
9:20:23AM THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THIS PODIUM BY YOU WAS NOT THE
9:20:28AM PROFESSIONAL, JUST THE FACTS, NOT INFLUENCED, NOT
9:20:32AM PREDETERMINED, ALWAYS THE DECISION BASED ON THE LAW AND ON
9:20:36AM THE CODE.
9:20:37AM AND I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT YOUR LEVEL OF INTEGRITY HAS MEANT
9:20:43AM TO THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH.
9:20:44AM IT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.
9:20:50AM AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DO PUBLIC SERVICE WHO WORK IN GOVERNMENT,
9:20:54AM YOU ARE THE SHINING EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE WHO
9:20:56AM SERVES THE PEOPLE SHOULD SEEK TO BE, A TRUTH TELLER WITH
9:21:01AM INTEGRITY AND ETHICS WHO MAY NOT ALWAYS TELL US WHAT WE WANT
9:21:04AM TO HEAR, BUT ALWAYS GIVES IT TO US STRAIGHT.
9:21:07AM I CANNOT EXPRESS TO YOU ENOUGH HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT, AND
9:21:11AM I KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DO EVERY
9:21:15AM DAY APPRECIATE IT, TOO.
9:21:18AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:21:19AM GLORIA, I DID NOT WANT TO SEE YOU CRY, BUT I WAS HAPPY TO
9:21:23AM SEE THAT YOUR FACE HAD CHANGED BECAUSE ALL THE EIGHT YEARS
9:21:27AM THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, WHEN YOU SAID "STOIC" A COUPLE OF
9:21:31AM TIMES WE WERE GOING TO GET A MIRROR AND SEE IF YOU ARE
9:21:35AM BREATHING.
9:21:35AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:21:36AM I KNOW THE STAFF KNOWS THIS, BECAUSE YOUR FACE COMPLETELY
9:21:39AM DOES NOT MOVE TWO SO FAR WHEN PRESENTING A CASE TO US.
9:21:42AM EVERYTHING MR. COHEN SAID IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, WHICH IS THAT
9:21:45AM YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CODE IN RELATION TO OUR ORDINANCES,
9:21:48AM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND HOW YOU HAVE DETERMINED WHETHER
9:21:51AM OR NOT IT FITS IN.
9:21:53AM AND MANY TIMES WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH YOU, BUT AT THE SAME
9:21:56AM TIME, WE NEVER DOUBTED YOUR ABILITY.
9:21:59AM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU COULD TEACH YOUR STAFF, EVERYBODY
9:22:03AM THAT COMES AFTER YOU HOW TO STAY AS STILL AS POSSIBLE AS YOU
9:22:07AM DO AND BE ABLE TO NOT MAKE -- LIKE THE EXPRESSION YOU'RE
9:22:11AM MAKING RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS COMPLETELY --
9:22:13AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:22:13AM -- GOSH, GLORIA, YOU KNOW, I'M PRAISING YOU NOW.
9:22:21AM YOU CAN SMILE A LITTLE BIT.
9:22:22AM BUT TO SEE HOW YOU PRESENTED TO US EVERY SINGLE TIME RIGHT
9:22:26AM DOWN THE MIDDLE, IT WAS NEVER, EVER ABOUT YOU.
9:22:28AM IT WAS NEVER, EVER ABOUT THE PERSONALITIES INVOLVED AND
9:22:32AM SOMETIMES WE HAD CONTENTIOUS CASES UP HERE.
9:22:35AM IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT DOES THE CODE SAY?
9:22:38AM WHAT DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAY?
9:22:40AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH IT?
9:22:43AM I WISH YOU WERE STICKING AROUND FOR THE NEW COUNCIL BECAUSE
9:22:46AM WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW LAND USE, AND YOU HAVE NEVER DONE IT
9:22:49AM BEFORE, IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND NEEDS EXPERTISE TO
9:22:54AM TEACH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE TO LEARN
9:22:57AM WHAT THEY NEED TO LOOK FOR IN ORDER TO BECOME EFFECTIVE
9:23:01AM PUBLIC SERVANTS.
9:23:03AM UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
9:23:04AM YOUR STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE AN INCREDIBLE HARD JOB NOW
9:23:08AM WITHOUT YOU AROUND, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT
9:23:10AM YOU HAVE DONE BEHIND THE SCENES BUT THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE
9:23:13AM DONE BEFORE US AT COUNCIL.
9:23:14AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE OF 35 YEARS.
9:23:18AM I THOUGHT FOR SURE YOU WERE GOING TO BEAT MARY BRYAN'S
9:23:22AM RECORD, OBVIOUSLY YOU COULDN'T GET THERE.
9:23:24AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:23:24AM YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HAD A FEW MORE YEARS TO BEAT HER RECORD.
9:23:28AM BUT, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HERE AND
9:23:32AM YOUR FAMILY WAS HERE TO SEE THIS.
9:23:34AM I HOPE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TOOK
9:23:37AM AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY IN ORDER TO SPEND TIME WITH US.
9:23:40AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:23:43AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU ARE TRULY
9:23:48AM IRREPLACEABLE.
9:23:50AM I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE
9:23:52AM THAT YOU MENTORED BUT THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE GLORIA MOREDA.
9:23:57AM I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOUR YEARS, BUT IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO
9:24:01AM WORK WITH YOU.
9:24:01AM I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU.
9:24:03AM I KNOW I'M QUIET UP HERE BUT YOU HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
9:24:06AM WHEN I BRING UP THE CITY OF TAMPA FAMILY, WHAT YOU SEE HERE,
9:24:08AM ALL THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU, HERE THAT LOVE YOU AND SUPPORT
9:24:11AM YOU AND ALL THE TEARS, SHOW JUST HOW MUCH THEY CARE ABOUT
9:24:14AM YOU AND WHAT A TREASURE YOU ARE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
9:24:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
9:24:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA.
9:24:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN HERE LESS TIME THAN
9:24:25AM COUNCILWOMAN MANISCALCO.
9:24:27AM YOUR OPINIONS AND THE WAY YOU GO ABOUT THINGS HAS BEEN A
9:24:31AM GREAT GUIDING METHOD AND PATH FOR ME BECAUSE LAND USE IS
9:24:35AM CERTAINLY NOT EASY, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU COME FROM MY
9:24:37AM BACKGROUND AS A LAWYER.
9:24:39AM YOU'RE CAREFUL TO OPINE ON THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT
9:24:42AM AND THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY THINGS THAT ARE NOT EASILY
9:24:45AM KNOWN IN LAND USE, AND YOU ALWAYS MAKE IT VERY ACCESSIBLE
9:24:50AM AND DO SO WITH A TEMPERAMENT THAT IS VERY GOOD.
9:24:53AM YOU BRING TO THE TABLE NOT ONLY YOUR PROFESSIONALISM BUT
9:24:55AM VERY, VERY GOOD TEMPERAMENT AND OFTEN DEALING WITH PARTIES
9:24:57AM WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY POTENTIALLY IN DISPUTE, A LOT
9:25:00AM OF POWER IN DISPUTE AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, A LOT OF PASSION
9:25:04AM IN DISPUTE, AND YOU RESPOND TO THAT WITH TOP-NOTCH
9:25:08AM TEMPERAMENT.
9:25:08AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:25:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
9:25:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
9:25:12AM GLORIA MOREDA, STOIC, JUST THE FACTS GLORIA, INVALUABLE.
9:25:18AM THAT'S IT.
9:25:19AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:25:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME SUM IT UP BY SAYING THAT I WAS
9:25:24AM SITTING HERE, AND WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING, I WAS SAYING TO
9:25:27AM MYSELF THAT I HEARD YOU SPEAK MORE TODAY THAN --
9:25:33AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:25:33AM -- A LAND USE MEETING.
9:25:35AM NORMALLY YOU GET UP THERE AND YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR WORDS
9:25:37AM AND THAT'S IT.
9:25:38AM WE RESPECT IT AND TAKE YOUR ADVICE AND MOVE ON.
9:25:43AM YOU NEVER GET NO CHALLENGE FROM US.
9:25:46AM BUT I TRULY WANT TO SAY TO YOU YOU'RE A TRUE PROFESSIONAL,
9:25:54AM AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE TRULY MISSED.
9:25:59AM GOING TO BE A GREAT LOSS TO THE CITY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A
9:26:05AM GREAT LOSS TO THE NEW COUNCIL COMING IN, BECAUSE THEY ARE
9:26:08AM LOSING A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
9:26:10AM AND NOT HAVING THAT ONE-ON-ONE CONTACT AND ONE-ON-ONE
9:26:15AM COMMUNICATION WITH YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE LAND USE AND THE
9:26:19AM ZONING AND ALL THAT OTHER SORT OF STUFF, THEY ARE GOING TO
9:26:23AM FIND OUT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT PROCESS, AND IT'S
9:26:28AM GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO LEARN ALL OF THIS NOT HAVING
9:26:32AM SOMEONE WITH AS VAST EXPERIENCE AS YOU.
9:26:34AM I WISH YOU WELL.
9:26:35AM I WISH YOU THE BEST.
9:26:38AM ONE THING I WILL SAY IF I WAS YOU, IF MICHELINI IS GOING TO
9:26:45AM INTERFERE WITH OUR AGENDA, TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION, HE
9:26:50AM SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE TO YUMMY YUMMY HOUSE.
9:26:55AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:26:55AM HE COMES HERE AND HE GIVES THESE CERTIFICATES TO YUMMY
9:27:02AM HOUSE.
9:27:02AM ASK HIM FOR A YUMMY HOUSE CERTIFICATE.
9:27:04AM THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.
9:27:05AM >>GLORIA MOREDA: THANK YOU.
9:27:06AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:27:07AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:27:26AM ITEM NUMBER 2, MR. VIERA.
9:28:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:28:54AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE HERE TO HAVE MR. HOWARD ALTMAN HERE
9:28:59AM WITH US FOR A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:29:01AM BEFORE I GIVE THIS TO MR. ALTMAN, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SOME
9:29:04AM OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE TO HONOR HOWARD.
9:29:07AM FIRST, MR. MICHAEL KIRK WITH THE GOLD STAR MOTHERS AND
9:29:09AM FATHERS.
9:29:10AM MR. BEN RITTER WHO IS HERE.
9:29:12AM JUDGE GREG HOLDER.
9:29:13AM COLONEL DJ REYES.
9:29:16AM MR. TONY ELLSWORTH WILLIAMS AND MR. MIKE O'DELL WITH
9:29:20AM VETERANS HELPING VETERANS, AS WELL AS I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE
9:29:22AM ARE HERE FOR MR. ALTMAN.
9:29:24AM ALL OF US HERE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THIS AREA
9:29:27AM KNOW OF THE GREAT WORK HOWARD DOES.
9:29:29AM HOWARD IS NOT JUST A JOURNALIST, HE IS A PERSON WHO IS A
9:29:32AM JOURNALIST REALLY FOR OUR TIMES.
9:29:34AM IT IS A VERY, VERY UNIQUE MISSION HE HAS.
9:29:37AM OVER ABOUT THE LAST 17 OR 18 YEARS, WE HAVE HAD ABOUT 17 OR
9:29:40AM 18 YEARS OF CONSTANT COMBAT AND SACRIFICES BY OUR MILITARY
9:29:44AM FAMILIES BETWEEN ONE AND TWO PERCENT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
9:29:47AM ARE ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND ABOUT 7% OF OUR POPULATION HAS
9:29:52AM EVER WORN A UNIFORM OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY.
9:29:55AM THE REST OF US GENERALLY GO ON IN OUR LIVES.
9:29:58AM AND THE SACRIFICES THAT ARE PUT ON BY THAT SMALL PERCENTAGE
9:30:01AM OF THE POPULATION ARE NOT WITH US EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:30:05AM IT IS THE JOB OF MR. HOWARD ALTMAN TO MAKE SURE THOSE
9:30:08AM SACRIFICES ARE KNOWN BY US EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:30:11AM SO MANY NAMES WE WOULD NOT KNOW ABOUT IF IT WASN'T FOR THE
9:30:15AM HARD WORK AND DEDICATED SERVICE OF MR. HOWARD ALTMAN.
9:30:18AM I THINK ABOUT MYSELF.
9:30:19AM IF IT WASN'T FOR THE STORIES DONE BY MR. HOWARD ALTMAN, I
9:30:22AM NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THE WARRIOR GAMES.
9:30:25AM I WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN WHO MIKE NICHOLSON WAS AND ALL
9:30:29AM THESE GREAT ENDEAVORS DONE.
9:30:31AM WE WOULD NEVER KNOW WHO MAJOR ANDREAS O'KEEFFE IS, A YOUNG
9:30:34AM GENTLEMAN WHO GREW UP HERE IN TAMPA, WAS A USF GRADUATE WHO
9:30:37AM RECENTLY GAVE HIS LIFE IN A HELICOPTER CRASH IN IRAQ.
9:30:40AM SO MR. HOWARD ALTMAN IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO REALLY, REALLY
9:30:44AM GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SO MUCH.
9:30:45AM HE IS LEAVING TO BECOME THE EDITOR OF THE MILITARY TIMES,
9:30:48AM AND IT IS A REAL TREMENDOUS LOSS FOR THE TAMPA AREA BECAUSE
9:30:53AM HE IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHOSE FOCUS IN JOURNALISM IS SO VERY,
9:30:57AM VERY FOCUSED.
9:30:59AM I FOUND A GOOD QUOTE THAT I THINK REALLY TALKS ABOUT WHAT
9:31:02AM HOWARD DOES WITH HIS CAREER.
9:31:05AM IT'S FROM PATRICK HENRY.
9:31:06AM IT GOES, ARE WE DISPOSED TO BE OF THE NUMBER OF THOSE WHO
9:31:09AM HAVING EYES SEE NOT AND HAVING EARS HEAR NOT THE THINGS
9:31:12AM WHICH SO NEARLY CONCERN THEIR TEMPORAL SALVATION.
9:31:16AM TEMPORAL SALVATION IS LIKE OUR SECULAR SAFETY.
9:31:21AM ALL TOO OFTEN WE HEAR NOT, THINK NOT, SEE NOT THOSE WHO GIVE
9:31:25AM 100% OF THEIR LIVES TO PROTECTING US.
9:31:29AM THAT'S WHAT HOWARD FOCUSES ON.
9:31:31AM FOR THAT AND SO MUCH, IT IS OUR PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO
9:31:34AM MR. HOWARD ALTMAN THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:31:36AM SO, HOWARD, IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
9:31:39AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:31:40AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:40AM THIS IS A DEEP HONOR.
9:31:41AM THIS IS A VERY DEEP HONOR AND SO, TOO, ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
9:31:47AM SHOWED UP, THE VETERANS TO COVER SUICIDE ISSUES, COVER GOLD
9:31:54AM STAR, COVER OPERATION HELPING HAND, VETERANS TREATMENT
9:31:58AM COURT, VIETNAM VETERANS AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
9:32:01AM IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY.
9:32:02AM IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO COVER THE GOLD STAR FAMILY.
9:32:06AM ONE OF MY KEY JOBS IS TO REMIND PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT
9:32:10AM YOU THINK ABOUT THE MILITARY -- REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK
9:32:14AM ABOUT THE MILITARY, THESE MEN AND WOMEN ARE SERVING IN YOUR
9:32:18AM NAME AND ON YOUR DIME.
9:32:19AM YOU SHOULD NEVER FORGET THAT THAT'S GOING ON.
9:32:23AM REALLY, IT'S A GREAT HONOR.
9:32:25AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:32:28AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME COINS.
9:32:39AM >> I HAVE ONE HERE FROM OUR CHAPTER OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS.
9:32:43AM THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS THE 100th ANNIVERSARY OF THE
9:32:52AM AMERICAN LEGION.
9:32:54AM >> THANK YOU.
9:32:54AM BY THE WAY, WE'RE HAVING A GO-AWAY PARTY TOMORROW.
9:32:59AM SO NOW I'M COVERED.
9:33:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:01AM IT'S BEEN A GREAT HONOR.
9:33:02AM I WISH I HAD SOME TO GIVE OUT.
9:33:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:09AM IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO HAVE MY FIRST TIME AT CITY COUNCIL TO
9:33:13AM BE HONORED.
9:33:14AM I VERY MUCH THANK YOU GUYS.
9:33:15AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:33:16AM THANKS.
9:33:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. ALTMAN, ARE YOU A VETERAN ALSO?
9:33:23AM >> NO, NO.
9:33:24AM I'M A LIFELONG CIVILIAN.
9:33:26AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS OF ALL TIME IS THE
9:33:29AM NIGHTINGALE SONG, YOU MAY HAVE READ IT BEFORE WHICH IS BY AN
9:33:33AM EX-MARINE AND TALKED ABOUT OTHER ANNAPOLIS GRADUATES THAT
9:33:37AM HAD GONE THROUGH.
9:33:39AM IF YOU HAVE NOT READ IT, YOU SHOULD.
9:33:41AM IT IS A WASHINGTON POST WRITER THAT WROTE THE BOOK.
9:33:45AM >> I'LL BE A MANAGING EDITOR AT MILITARY TIMES.
9:33:47AM I LEAVE THE TIMES ON THE 12th AND START ON THE 15th.
9:33:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ARE YOU GOING TO BE BASED IN D.C.?
9:33:53AM >> YES, TYSON'S CORNER.
9:33:55AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ENJOY YOUR TIME THERE, DON'T FORGET US IN
9:33:58AM TAMPA.
9:33:58AM >> I CAN'T.
9:33:58AM GREAT FRIENDS HERE, GOOD COMMUNITY, MISS THE SUNSETS.
9:34:02AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IMPORTANT TO COVER NOT ONLY THE MILITARY IN
9:34:04AM TERMS OF THE VETERANS BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT MILITARY IS DOING
9:34:08AM AND WHAT WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT ABOUT IS NOT ONLY WHAT WE
9:34:10AM HAVE DONE BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOT DONE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT
9:34:13AM SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
9:34:14AM >> AND OUR FAMILIES, TOO.
9:34:16AM CAREGIVERS.
9:34:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:34:18AM ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR CAREER.
9:34:20AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:34:20AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:34:21AM THANKS.
9:34:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:34:28AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. MANISCALCO.
9:34:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP MR. VINCE
9:34:33AM PARDO.
9:34:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:34:45AM I THINK IT IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU AS A
9:34:49AM PRIVATE CITIZEN SINCE I RETIRED THREE YEARS AGO.
9:34:52AM IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU.
9:34:53AM IN 1984, IN CENTENNIAL YEAR OF THE ITALIAN CLUB, AS A
9:35:01AM SPECIAL PROJECT, WE INITIATED A REQUEST TO HAVE A SISTER
9:35:05AM CITY WITH ITALY.
9:35:08AM AFTER MUCH DELIBERATION, THE CAPITAL OF THE PROVINCE WAS
9:35:14AM SELECTED BECAUSE ABOUT 90% OF THE ITALIAN IMMIGRANTS THAT
9:35:19AM IMMIGRATED TO TAMPA CAME FROM THREE OR FOUR VILLAGES IN THAT
9:35:23AM PROVINCE.
9:35:23AM A PROVINCE IS LIKE A COUNTY.
9:35:26AM WE HELD THAT RELATIONSHIP.
9:35:27AM IN 1991, THE MAYOR OF AGRIGENTO ABOUT 12 OF HIS STAFF AND 24
9:35:35AM DANCERS AND MUSICIANS DESCENDED ON TAMPA.
9:35:39AM WE HOSTED THEM FOR A LITTLE OVER A WEEK.
9:35:41AM FOLLOWING YEAR IN 1992, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TAKING MAYOR
9:35:44AM SANDY FREEDMAN AND THE DELEGATION FROM TAMPA FOR THAT
9:35:49AM RECIPROCAL VISIT AND THE SIGNING WAS COMPLETE.
9:35:52AM WE HAVE FOSTERED THE RELATIONSHIP FOR 28 YEARS NOW.
9:35:55AM DURING THAT TIME WE HAVE HAD A MULTITUDE OF CULTURAL
9:35:57AM EXCHANGES WITH THE DANCERS, MUSICIANS COMING OVER, TRAINING
9:36:01AM PEOPLE IN WORKSHOPS, BOTH IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE
9:36:04AM SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE DANCE STUDIOS.
9:36:06AM THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART HAD PROBABLY THE LARGEST ATTENDANCE
9:36:11AM OF ANY SHOW THEY HAD WHEN WE HOSTED THE MAGNA GRAECIA
9:36:18AM PROJECT.
9:36:19AM ITEMS OF ANTIQUITIES THAT HAD NEVER EVEN GONE TO THE
9:36:23AM MAINLAND OF ITALY WERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:36:25AM AND ONLY TWO CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES -- HERE AND
9:36:25AM CLEVELAND -- BECAUSE THE DIRECTOR OF ANTIQUITIES OF OUR
9:36:27AM MUSEUM HAD LEFT AND GONE TO CLEVELAND.
9:36:29AM WE REALLY ENJOYED A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
9:36:32AM LAST YEAR, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE A DELEGATION, ABOUT 21 PEOPLE.
9:36:35AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO INTERTWINED WITH US.
9:36:39AM HE WAS VISITING HIS FAMILY IN THE PROVINCE.
9:36:41AM AND MAYOR BUCKHORN MET WITH THREE MAYORS IN THAT AREA, JUST
9:36:44AM TO SOLIDIFY.
9:36:45AM ONE OF THE CONNECTIONS WE MADE -- AND I'M GOING TO ASK AL
9:36:51AM BELLUCCIA, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF TAMPA AGRIGENTO SISTER CITIES --
9:36:57AM AND I'M PRESENTING TODAY AS PRESIDENT OF SISTER CITIES
9:37:05AM COMMITTEE.
9:37:05AM ALSO LIKE FOR CATHERINE PISCANTE TO COME UP.
9:37:09AM THIS TRIO HAS BEEN THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH PUTTING
9:37:14AM TOGETHER THE VISIT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY.
9:37:17AM I GIVE CREDIT TO AL BELLUCCIA, WHEN WE ARE ON THE VISIT,
9:37:22AM BECAUSE OF HIS FAMILY, MADE CONNECTION WITH THE SCHOOL IN
9:37:25AM BIVONA.
9:37:26AM BIVONA IS LIKE A REGIONAL SCHOOL.
9:37:30AM SO WITH THAT CONNECTION, WE CONTINUED, AND CATHERINE WAS OUR
9:37:36AM CONNECTION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
9:37:38AM SHE'S A GAITHER HIGH SCHOOL ITALIAN INSTRUCTOR THERE.
9:37:41AM AND CULMINATING IN THE VISIT THIS WEEK OF EIGHT STUDENTS
9:37:47AM FROM THE LUIGI SCHOOL, CULINARY INSTITUTE.
9:37:52AM THEY ARE HERE TO TEACH ABOUT SICILIAN COOKING AND CUISINE
9:37:56AM AND THEY ARE HERE TO LEARN SOME OF THE PRACTICES OF FOOD
9:37:59AM PREPARATION AND SERVING THAT WE DO HERE.
9:38:02AM THAT COMBINATION AFTER SEVERAL COUPLE OF MONTHS OF --
9:38:07AM SEVERAL MONTHS OF WORKING CULMINATED IN THEIR VISIT TO
9:38:11AM SWEDEN.
9:38:12AM WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT 11:00 TO DO A LITTLE
9:38:15AM EXCHANGE.
9:38:16AM I WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE OF NAMES.
9:38:19AM WE HAVE THOMAS MOREL, WHO IS THE PRINCIPAL OF GAITHER HIGH
9:38:26AM SCHOOL, WHICH HAS BEEN THE CENTRAL FOCUS FOR THE SCHOOL
9:38:28AM BOARD.
9:38:28AM TOM, IF YOU COULD STAND, PLEASE?
9:38:30AM THANK YOU.
9:38:31AM RECOGNIZE HIM IN DOING THAT.
9:38:33AM WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS INTRODUCE YOU TO THE MAYOR OF
9:38:42AM BIVONA.
9:38:43AM HE'S HERE, MR. MILKO CINA.
9:38:47AM HE'S HERE WITH HIS VICE MAYOR, SALVADOR GUTRO AND A COUNCIL
9:38:52AM PERSON FROM BIVONA, ANGELA PINELLA.
9:38:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:57AM WILL TRANSLATE FOR US.
9:39:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, TO EVERYBODY.
9:39:13AM THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING US TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL.
9:39:19AM [SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:39:32AM >> INTERPRETER: I BRING THE SALUTE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL OF
9:39:39AM BIVONA AND ALEXANDRIA AND --
9:39:49AM WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.
9:39:54AM >> [ SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
9:40:03AM >> INTERPRETER: ONE THING UNITES US BETWEEN TAMPA AND
9:40:07AM SICILY, IT IS THE BEAUTY OF BOTH PLACES.
9:40:09AM [SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:40:20AM >> INTERPRETER: THIS HAS BEEN A BEAUTIFUL RELATIONSHIP HELD
9:40:24AM BY MRS. PISCANTE AND LUIGI OF BIVONA.
9:40:29AM IN COORDINATING THESE SCHOOLS.
9:40:37AM WHERE WE BROUGHT SOME EXCELLENCE FROM OUR TERRITORY.
9:40:41AM [SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:40:53AM >> INTERPRETER: THE CITY OF TAMPA HOSTS GENERATIONS OF
9:40:57AM PEOPLE FROM SICILY.
9:40:59AM [SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:41:21AM >> INTERPRETER: THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY VINCE PARDO
9:41:28AM AND THE MUSEUM OF TAMPA HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY WORK.
9:41:31AM IT GAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO ALL THE ITALIANS WHO TRANSFERRED
9:41:40AM HERE TO BE CLOSE TO THEIR ROOTS.
9:41:42AM [SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:41:49AM >> INTERPRETER: SO WE DO WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO OUR
9:41:52AM BEAUTIFUL REGION OF SICILY.
9:41:54AM AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HOSPITALITY.
9:41:59AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:11AM >> I WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD ASK OUR STUDENTS.
9:42:13AM WE HAVE EIGHT STUDENTS HERE.
9:42:15AM >> WE ALSO HAVE THREE FROM GAITHER COMING IN.
9:42:24AM >> WE ALSO HAVE FIVE ADMINISTRATORS FROM THE SCHOOL, BOTH
9:42:30AM THE CHEF, THE CULINARY TEACHER, THE PRINCIPAL.
9:42:34AM THE PRINCIPAL OF THE SCHOOL IS GIOVANNA BUBELLA.
9:42:42AM SHE IS NOT HERE BECAUSE SHE RUNNING FOR MAYOR.
9:42:48AM SO SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
9:42:50AM BUT THE VICE PRINCIPAL IS FINELLA DENTE.
9:42:58AM I THINK SHE HAS A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR THE COUNCIL.
9:43:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I COULD SAY IT IN ITALIAN SINCE, OF
9:43:14AM COURSE, THE GROUP --
9:43:23AM >> THE CULINARY TEACHING, IT'S STILL DOING DEMONSTRATIONS
9:43:28AM BOTH AT SCHOOLS, BUT SICKLES AND THE GAITHER HIGH SCHOOL.
9:43:32AM THEY'LL BE DOING A DEMONSTRATION AT THE FEST ITALIANO AT
9:43:38AM 12:30 IN CENTENNIAL PARK.
9:43:41AM THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN SHADOWING AT SEVERAL RESTAURANTS.
9:43:44AM THEY HELPED THE STAFF AND THE ITALIAN CLUB COOK FOR THIS
9:43:48AM WEEKEND'S ACTIVITIES GOING ON THERE.
9:43:50AM THEY REALLY HAD A PRIVATE NONPROFIT AND PROFESSIONAL
9:43:54AM RESTAURANT EXPERIENCE WHILE THEY'VE BEEN HERE AS WELL AS
9:43:56AM TEACHING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.
9:44:05AM >> [SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:44:09AM >> INTERPRETER: I AM HONORED AND EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY.
9:44:12AM REPRESENTING MY SCHOOL IS A VERY STRONG MOMENT FOR ME.
9:44:19AM AND ALSO KNOWING HOW THE PRINCIPAL DID WANT TO BE HERE
9:44:29AM TODAY.
9:44:29AM SHE HAS BEEN HELD BACK BECAUSE SHE IS RUNNING FOR MAYOR.
9:44:39AM I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR WELCOMING US.
9:44:50AM THAT GAVE OUR STUDENTS THE POSSIBILITY OF LIVING THIS UNIQUE
9:45:01AM EXPERIENCE.
9:45:01AM I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST SCHOOL THAT I KNOW OF IN SICILY
9:45:16AM THAT HAS DONE THIS SISTER CITY'S COORDINATION WITH THE
9:45:20AM SCHOOLS, COMING TO THE UNITED STATES.
9:45:22AM THE PRINCIPAL HAS SENT YOU SOME SMALL GIFTS.
9:45:28AM RECIPES OF SOME ANCIENT FOOD RECIPES.
9:45:37AM WITH SIMPLE INGREDIENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN GREAT QUANTITY HERE
9:45:44AM IN TAMPA.
9:45:45AM WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE OUR LITTLE FROM OUR SCHOOL, AND THE
9:45:59AM STUDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY THESE DAYS AND THANK YOU AS
9:46:02AM WELL.
9:46:02AM AND I HOPE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL CONTINUE AND WELCOMING
9:46:13AM YOUR SCHOOL IN SICILY.
9:46:15AM THANK YOU.
9:46:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:46:24AM >> WE'RE PASSING AROUND VIDEO.
9:46:27AM THE MAYOR HAS ALSO BROUGHT A GIFT FROM BIVONA.
9:46:31AM A HAND-PAINTED PLATE.
9:46:39AM WE'LL LEAVE THIS FOR THE COUNCIL FOR PRESENTING IN THE
9:46:44AM SISTER CITIES ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.
9:46:47AM AND WE PROUDLY DISPLAY THAT WITH THE REST.
9:46:51AM I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE.
9:46:54AM KEPT TO THE RIGHT TIME FRAME, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,
9:47:00AM WE ARE COMPLETE WITH OUR PRESENTATION.
9:47:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK AND IN ITALIAN FOR THE GROUP.
9:47:05AM [SPEAKING ITALIAN]
9:47:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:47:38AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:47:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ENGLISH SPOKEN IN ITALIAN -- [SPEAKING A
9:47:55AM FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
9:48:03AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:48:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:48:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:48:29AM MR. PARDO, ANYTHING ELSE?
9:48:33AM >> NO.
9:48:33AM THE COUNCILMAN JUST FOUND -- [INAUDIBLE]
9:48:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:48:48AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: GUIDO, YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON, OTHER THAN
9:48:53AM MY GRANDMOTHER WHO I EVER HEARD THAT SPEAKS BOTH ENGLISH,
9:48:57AM SPANISH, AND SICILIAN.
9:48:59AM AMAZING.
9:48:59AM GOOD TO HEAR IT.
9:49:00AM MY GRANDMOTHER DID THAT.
9:49:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY FATHER AND I ONLY SPEAK IN ITALIAN.
9:49:06AM I HAVE THAT CONSTANT PRACTICE.
9:49:08AM WITH OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, SPANISH.
9:49:10AM IT'S BENEFICIAL.
9:49:12AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD SPEAK IN SPANISH OR
9:49:16AM SICILIAN AND WE WOULD ANSWER IN ENGLISH.
9:49:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSLATE
9:49:22AM THIS.
9:49:24AM I LIKE WHAT I'M SEEING HERE -- OKAY.
9:49:31AM MS. CAPIN, YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM?
9:49:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, NUMBER 39, IT'S JUST
9:49:49AM THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE EITHER A STAFF REPORT OR BE BRIEFED.
9:49:55AM IT'S 400 ACRES.
9:49:56AM 450 ACRES WE'RE SELLING AND I FEEL WE SHOULD KNOW A LITTLE
9:50:06AM MORE ABOUT THIS.
9:50:07AM THAT'S IT.
9:50:07AM I'D LIKE TO PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION.
9:50:10AM THAT'S MY MOTION.
9:50:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
9:50:16AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN TO PULL ITEM 39 FOR STAFF
9:50:21AM DISCUSSION.
9:50:21AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:50:24AM OPPOSED?
9:50:24AM AT THIS TIME, WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:50:29AM MR. SHELLY.
9:50:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC
9:50:38AM COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:50:38AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
9:50:43AM SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
9:50:45AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR A
9:50:47AM PUBLIC HEARING YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING
9:50:50AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:50:51AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE GIVEN PREFERENCE
9:50:55AM BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS.
9:50:58AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:51:00AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND IT IS
9:51:04AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:51:07AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
9:51:11AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:51:13AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:51:17AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:51:20AM THANK YOU.
9:51:22AM >> FOR THE LIVING WORLD, FOR THE LIVING RECORD, I'VE
9:51:26AM SOVEREIGN DESPOT KING JOHNNY BERNARD.
9:51:31AM I'M HERE BRIEFING WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE GLOBAL CIVIL
9:51:37AM WAR BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES AND, YOU KNOW, US ROYAL,
9:51:44AM NOBLE, LIVING, TRUE, TRIBUNAL LEGIT -- OKAY.
9:51:50AM THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:51:52AM LOOK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, YES, I AM DOING A JOINT
9:51:57AM JURISDICTIONAL THING BECAUSE LIKE WHEN THE COMMERCIAL SCENE
9:51:59AM IS SET UP, YOU HAD FORGOT ABOUT YOUR AGREEMENT AND TRIED TO
9:52:02AM TAKE OVER ALL YOUR PEOPLE AND TRIED TO TAKE OVER YOUR
9:52:05AM LEADERS AND TRIED TO TAKE OVER YOUR SYSTEMS.
9:52:07AM YOU CAME OUT WITH THIS CATEGORY CALLED BLACK AND WHITE TO
9:52:11AM START FIGHTS AMONG ALL YOUR PEOPLE AND ALL YOUR LANDS.
9:52:14AM THE TERM BLACK AND WHITE IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO BE USED ON
9:52:19AM THE GLOBE BECAUSE YOU'RE USING IT TO CREATE DISCRIMINATION
9:52:22AM AND HATE THROUGHOUT ALL YOUR LANDS.
9:52:24AM YOU HAVE CREATED FRAUDULENT SYSTEMS USING THIS.
9:52:28AM TO BE KNOWN BLACK AND WHITE THAT MAKES YOU A SERVANT, NOT
9:52:30AM OVER YOUR LEADERS, NOT OVER YOUR RULERS AND HARASSING YOUR
9:52:34AM LEADERS WHILE YOU TRAFFIC MONEY THROUGHOUT ALL MY LANDS DO
9:52:37AM NOT WORK.
9:52:38AM CAMPAIGN STAYS ON THE GLOBE AND BLUE START END CORRUPTION
9:52:42AM NOW STAGED ON THE GLOBE AS GLOBAL HOMELAND WE'RE NOT GOING
9:52:46AM TO BUY INTO ANY OF THE HYPOCRISY, LIES THAT YOUR FALSE
9:52:51AM RELIGION HAS BROUGHT ON.
9:52:53AM WHAT IS A TRUE RELIGION?
9:52:54AM A MAN'S WALK OF HIS LIFE, NOT CHRISTIAN, NOT MUSLIM, NOT
9:52:58AM JEW.
9:52:59AM YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT RAN OUT FROM US, RAN OUT FROM US
9:53:04AM ANCIENT ONES, RAN OUT FROM US -- HOW YOU SAY?
9:53:07AM TIBETAN, INDIGENOUS.
9:53:12AM ANUBIAN.
9:53:13AM ORIGINAL, TRUE KINGS AND QUEENS, SHAHMAN, HEAD OF
9:53:23AM HOUSEHOLDS, HEAD OF GOVERNMENT, HEAD OF RELIGIONS, HEAD OF
9:53:27AM SYSTEMS.
9:53:27AM KNOWING WE'RE THE HEAD OF YOUR SYSTEMS, HOW DO YOU COME AND
9:53:30AM TRY TO OVERRIDE THE PROVIDER WHEN YOU'RE A DEBTOR, CREDITOR,
9:53:37AM KNOWING YOU NEED MONEY FROM THE CREDITOR, YOU GUYS REALLY
9:53:41AM NEED TO END THE HATE ON THIS GLOBE.
9:53:44AM IT AIN'T DOING NONE OF YOU GOOD.
9:53:46AM IT AIN'T DOING SATAN ANY GOOD EITHER.
9:53:49AM HE'S LAUGHING SAYING WATCH HOW MANY FOOLS COME DOWN HERE
9:53:52AM WITH HIM.
9:53:53AM CHRIST THE WAY OF THE HOPE.
9:53:55AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
9:53:57AM IT'S IN YOUR HISTORY BOOKS.
9:53:59AM GO AND BECOME EDUCATED.
9:54:00AM DON'T BELIEVE A BLACK MAN OR WHITE MAN.
9:54:03AM GO AND GET EDUCATED.
9:54:06AM IF YOU DON'T GET EDUCATED, THEY'LL KEEP LYING TO YOU.
9:54:09AM FOOLED BY THE FRAUDULENT COURTHOUSES.
9:54:11AM FOOLED BY THE GROCERY STORE.
9:54:15AM BETTER START FARMING AND BECOME A GARDENER.
9:54:19AM LEARN REAL LOVE, LEARN REAL PEACE.
9:54:21AM THANK YOU.
9:54:24AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
9:54:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:54:30AM TAMPA COUNCIL.
9:54:32AM MY NAME IS DIANA KLINE.
9:54:36AM I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR PREBORN NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
9:54:38AM BEING MURDERED IN TAMPA.
9:54:42AM EVERY WEEK, ABOUT 200 BABIES ARE MURDERED.
9:54:44AM UNDER YOUR WATCH AND JURISDICTION.
9:54:48AM IT'S TIME TO END THE BLOODSHED AND PUNISH THOSE WHO ARE
9:54:52AM MURDERING THESE BABIES.
9:54:53AM I HAVE AN OFFICIAL DIAGRAM THAT IS USED TO TRAIN MEDICAL
9:54:57AM STUDENTS ON HOW TO KILL BABIES IN THE WOMB.
9:55:01AM A CANNULA IS USED TO BE INSERTED INTO THE CERVIX, THE UTERUS
9:55:08AM WHERE THE BABY IS SUCKED OUT AND KILLED IN HIS ABODE AND
9:55:11AM THEN THEY TAKE A CURETTE, A SHARP KNIFE TO FINISH SCRAPING
9:55:16AM OUT ALL THE BABY PARTS, THERE IS AN ASSISTANT KILLER WHO
9:55:19AM HELPS TO IDENTIFY ALL THE BABY PARTS AND THEN THEY PUT THEM
9:55:25AM BACK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT THEM ALL.
9:55:27AM YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH BETWEEN A SAFE
9:55:30AM BABY AND A MURDERED BABY IN THE WOMB.
9:55:33AM IT'S TIME TO END THIS BLOODSHED.
9:55:36AM YOU HAVE A GOD-ORDAINED DUTY TO PRESERVE JUSTICE AND TO
9:55:39AM PUNISH THIS EVIL.
9:55:42AM ROE VERSUS WADE IS NOT A LAW.
9:55:47AM IT IS A FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED COURT OPINION.
9:55:48AM THAT'S ALL IT IS.
9:55:48AM THERE IS NOWHERE IN OUR CONSTITUTION EITHER ON THE FEDERAL
9:55:50AM LEVEL OR THE STATE LEVEL THAT GIVES ANY MORE THE RIGHT TO
9:55:53AM MURDER HER BABY IN THE WOMB.
9:55:54AM EVERY BABY IN THE WOMB IS OUR PROSPERITY, AND IF YOU READ
9:55:57AM THE PREAMBLE OF THE CONSTITUTION, IT SAYS THAT WE, AS A
9:56:02AM PEOPLE, WE GIVE THESE RIGHTS.
9:56:05AM WE WANT TO BESTOW THESE LIBERTIES TO OUR POSTERITY OF LIFE,
9:56:11AM LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
9:56:14AM WE NEED TO STOP THIS BLOODSHED.
9:56:17AM I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT THAT TAMPA,
9:56:20AM APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, DECRIMINALIZED MARIJUANA.
9:56:26AM THE SAME PROCESS THAT YOU AS A COUNCIL, YOU AS A GOVERNING
9:56:27AM BODY USED TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA IS THE SAME PROCESS
9:56:32AM THAT YOU WOULD USE TO INTERPOSE AND TO CRIMINALIZE MURDER IN
9:56:35AM THE WOMB HERE IN TAMPA.
9:56:37AM IT'S UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION.
9:56:39AM YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
9:56:40AM IT IS YOUR GOD-ORDAINED DUTY TO DO THAT TO PROTECT EVERYBODY
9:56:44AM IN THE CITY.
9:56:45AM THAT THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY, AS WE HEARD OUR ITALIAN NEIGHBORS
9:56:48AM TELL US, IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY, BUT IT'S BLOODSTAINED WITH THE
9:56:52AM SHEDDING OF THE INNOCENT BLOOD OF THOUSANDS OF BABIES THAT
9:56:55AM ARE MURDERED EVERY YEAR HERE IN TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH
9:56:57AM COUNTY.
9:56:58AM THIS BLOODSHED NEEDS TO END.
9:57:00AM YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DOCTRINE OF THE LESSER
9:57:03AM MAGISTRATE AT DEFY TYRANTS.COM.
9:57:05AM YOU CAN ALSO GO TO FREE THE STATES.COM AND FIND OUT MORE
9:57:09AM ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE USING -- TO ENACT LAWS THAT WILL ON A
9:57:15AM STATE LEVEL CRIMINALIZE IT.
9:57:16AM YOU HAVE A DUTY TO DO IT.
9:57:19AM YOU CAN DO IT HERE AND MAKE IT A SANCTUARY CITY FOR PREBORN
9:57:23AM BABIES.
9:57:23AM THERE'S LOTS OF HELP IN TAMPA HERE ALONE WITH CHILD WHO CAN
9:57:27AM GET PRENATAL CARE.
9:57:29AM LOTS OF PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THESE MOTHERS WITH CHILD.
9:57:32AM CHECK MY WEBSITE.
9:57:33AM THANK YOU.
9:57:33AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
9:57:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, MENTESMOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:57:46AM HATE TO BE A BUBBLE BURSTER, BUT WE HAD WHAT THEY SAY THE
9:57:52AM ITALIAN OR SICILIAN, SISTER, BROTHERHOOD-TYPE SITUATION THAT
9:57:59AM CAME BEFORE THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO SAY SOME TYPE OF
9:58:03AM RELATIONSHIP WITH TAMPA, BUT ONE THING, EVERYONE NEEDS TO
9:58:10AM KNOW, BEFORE YOU GO ANYWHERE, SHOULD ALWAYS BE SOME
9:58:14AM SENSITIVITY TRAINING.
9:58:15AM BEFORE YOU GO ANYWHERE, SHOULD ALWAYS BE SOME SENSITIVITY
9:58:19AM TRAINING, AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BRING OUT.
9:58:21AM IF YOU'RE UNAWARE, UNIFORMED, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING
9:58:27AM ON.
9:58:27AM THE BIG THING GOING ON IN EUROPE AND ITALY AND OTHER PLACES,
9:58:32AM IS THE MOCKERY OF AFRICAN PLAYERS, BLACK THESE.
9:58:43AM BLACK ATHLETES ARE ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD, THE WHITE PEOPLE
9:58:49AM IN THE STANDS MAKING INSULTING REMARKS, MAKING MONKEY
9:58:56AM REMARKS AND THROWING BANANAS OUT IN THE FIELD AT US.
9:59:02AM YOU WELCOME THEM HERE, IT'S LIKE OVERLOOK THAT.
9:59:06AM IT'S RACISM.
9:59:12AM THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT BEEN RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE TO
9:59:20AM AFRICAN PEOPLE IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.
9:59:22AM WE'RE 26% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION.
9:59:24AM WE'VE NEVER HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS DISTRICT 5 OR
9:59:29AM OTHER DISTRICTS THAT'S MOSTLY AFRICAN POPULATED TO REPRESENT
9:59:34AM OUR INTERESTS.
9:59:34AM AND BLACK PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE ON THE REGULAR TO SAY WHAT
9:59:38AM WE'RE OPPOSED TO, WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES, POLICE
9:59:42AM VIOLENCE.
9:59:43AM WE'RE HEARING IT NOW IN THE NEWS.
9:59:45AM TEN OFFICERS ACCUSED OF SOMETHING, RACIST MAYOR CALLING
9:59:49AM AFRICAN WOMEN BITCHES, CALLING FOR THE LYNCHING OF AN
9:59:52AM AFRICAN MAN BEFORE HE EVEN GO TO CHILD.
9:59:56AM NOBODY UP THERE SAY OR DO ANYTHING.
9:59:58AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
10:00:00AM YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE NOW FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RUNNING
10:00:02AM FOR MAYOR THAT SAY CRIME IS DOWN 70%.
10:00:06AM CRIME IS DOWN 70%.
10:00:08AM IF CRIME IS DOWN 70%, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE IN THAT PROCESS
10:00:14AM RELEASED 70% OF THE OFFICERS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM
10:00:19AM THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
10:00:20AM BUT UNSOLVED MURDERS IS UP ABOUT 600 OR 700 PERCENT,
10:00:25AM ESPECIALLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:00:27AM LOTS OF GRIEVING MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND BROTHERS AND
10:00:29AM SISTERS.
10:00:29AM TAKING PLACE.
10:00:32AM THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
10:00:35AM THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS
10:00:39AM OF THE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S ALL THE PEOPLE.
10:00:42AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
10:00:53AM >> HI.
10:00:54AM GOOD MORNING.
10:00:54AM KEVIN O'HARE, COPPER CANYON BOULEVARD, VALRICO, FLORIDA.
10:01:00AM I BELIEVE I SIGNED UP FOR THE WRONG AGENDA ITEM, SO I
10:01:03AM FIGURED I WOULD GIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:01:05AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR YOUR
10:01:09AM SUPPORT AND APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
10:01:11AM THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN IMPLEMENTING THE ALL FOR
10:01:13AM TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT CITY VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED
10:01:16AM FOR THIS PAST NOVEMBER.
10:01:17AM JUST THIS PAST WEEK, THE HART BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE MPO
10:01:21AM BOARD AS WELL AS THE TEMPLE TERRACE CITY COUNCIL AND JUST
10:01:23AM YESTERDAY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALL VOTED
10:01:26AM TO APPROVE AND INTRODUCE AN AGREEMENT.
10:01:28AM THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST STEP IN IMPLEMENTING WHAT
10:01:30AM VOTERS APPROVED FOR US.
10:01:31AM I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE IN APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL
10:01:34AM AGREEMENT AND SATISFY THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.
10:01:36AM THANK YOU.
10:01:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:01:38AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:01:41AM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUEST FOR PUBLIC
10:01:46AM RECONSIDERATION FOR LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:01:48AM SEEING NONE, GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:01:51AM HONORED TO RECOGNIZE CHARLIE MIRANDA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:01:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:01:59AM I MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 6.
10:02:01AM >> SECOND.
10:02:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 6 HAS BEEN PULLED.
10:02:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:02:06AM I'M SORRY.
10:02:06AM 6 HAS BEEN PULLED.
10:02:09AM >> SECOND FOR FOUR AND FIVE.
10:02:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:02:12AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:02:13AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:19AM PARKS RECREATION.
10:02:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 7 THROUGH 11.
10:02:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
10:02:25AM MR. VIERA.
10:02:26AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:28AM OPPOSED.
10:02:29AM ALL RIGHT, GO TO PUBLIC WORKS, MR. MANISCALCO.
10:02:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH 20.
10:02:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION --
10:02:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON NUMBER
10:02:39AM 19.
10:02:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:02:42AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:02:43AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:44AM OPPOSED?
10:02:45AM ALL RIGHT.
10:02:46AM GO TO FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. COHEN.
10:02:50AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:02:51AM I MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 30.
10:02:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:02:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:02:56AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:02:57AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:02:59AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:02:59AM OKAY.
10:03:00AM BUILDING AND ZONING, MR. VIERA.
10:03:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MR. CHAIR.
10:03:04AM I MOVE ITEM 31 AND 41 THROUGH 46 WITH CONTINUANCES SOUGHT
10:03:16AM FOR 32 THROUGH 38 AND 39 PULLED BY COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
10:03:21AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
10:03:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
10:03:24AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:03:25AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:03:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
10:03:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 40 IS ALSO APRIL 18?
10:03:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
10:03:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:03:39AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:03:40AM ALL RIGHT.
10:03:41AM TRANSPORTATION, MR. SUAREZ.
10:03:41AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:03:43AM BEFORE I MOVE THESE ITEMS, ITEMS 50, 51, 52 AND 53 ALL DEAL
10:03:51AM WITH THE SHARED MOTORIZED SCOOTER PILOT PROGRAM.
10:03:54AM HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THIS DONE AND BE ABLE TO SEE THEM OUT ON
10:03:56AM THE STREETS.
10:03:57AM IN SAYING THAT, NUMBERS 51, 52, AND 53, WE ARE LOOKING AT
10:04:03AM REQUESTING THAT THE OPERATING AGREEMENT AND EXHIBITS FOR A,
10:04:08AM B AND C ARE ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTIONS.
10:04:10AM HAVING SAID THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 47 THROUGH 53.
10:04:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:04:18AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:04:27AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: 49 NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED?
10:04:29AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:04:30AM LET ME MOVE ALL THOSE EXCEPT 49 THAT WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL
10:04:40AM APRIL 18.
10:04:41AM MOVING ALL THOSE ITEMS, INCLUDING THOSE OTHER ITEMS AS
10:04:47AM MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY AND 49 WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL
10:04:51AM APRIL 18.
10:04:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM AND
10:04:57AM I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT ON THE PILOT PROGRAM.
10:05:00AM LATER ON -- JUST ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU HAVE SCOOTERS AND
10:05:06AM WALKERS ON THE SAME SIDEWALK AND THE STATE DOESN'T ALLOW
10:05:10AM THEM ON THE STREET, THERE'S A PROBLEM COMING UP.
10:05:12AM THERE ARE CITIES THAT HAVE HAD THEM IN THE PAST AND SOME ARE
10:05:15AM DOING WELL AND SOME ARE NOT.
10:05:17AM I SUPPORT THIS NOW BUT MAY NOT SUPPORT IT WHEN IT COMES BACK
10:05:20AM TO FINALIZATION.
10:05:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK THE LEGISLATURE IS WORKING ON THAT.
10:05:25AM HOPEFULLY THEY'LL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BEFORE THE END OF THE
10:05:27AM SESSION, WHICH WILL BE THE END OF THIS MONTH OR THE
10:05:29AM BEGINNING OF MAY.
10:05:30AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:05:31AM I THINK THAT IT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION TO HAVE MOTORIZED
10:05:34AM VEHICLES ON SIDEWALKS, AND THEY SHOULD ALLOW THEM ONTO BIKE
10:05:39AM PATHS OR ON TO THE STREET.
10:05:40AM UNTIL THEY DO THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH THING.
10:05:43AM WHATEVER THE NEXT COUNCIL DOES IN TERMS OF THIS AFTERWARDS,
10:05:46AM I THINK IT WOULD BE PROPER TO LOOK AT THAT SAFETY ISSUE.
10:05:49AM I APOLOGIZE, CHAIR.
10:05:52AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT -- THE PILOT PROGRAM --
10:05:55AM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:05:57AM -- SO MY VOTE IS NO.
10:05:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU ASKING THEN -- I'M DIRECTING MY
10:06:04AM QUESTION TO COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
10:06:06AM ARE YOU THEN REQUESTING A SEPARATE VOTE ON 52, 52 AND 53?
10:06:10AM THIS IS A CONSENT DOCKET.
10:06:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES, THAT'S WHAT
10:06:14AM I'LL ASK.
10:06:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET ME RESCIND MY MOTION, START AGAIN AND WE
10:06:18AM CAN GO THROUGH IT -- I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 47 AND 48.
10:06:26AM AND HAVE 49 SET FOR A CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 18.
10:06:34AM >> SECOND.
10:06:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM -- AMENDED MOTION
10:06:38AM FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:06:42AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:06:44AM ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
10:06:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET ME MOVE ITEMS 50 THROUGH 53 WITH THE
10:06:50AM SUBSTITUTE A, B AND C EXHIBITS ON TO THE RESOLUTIONS 51, 52,
10:06:56AM AND 53.
10:07:02AM >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO AGREE
10:07:03AM WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:05AM I SUPPORT THIS AS A PILOT.
10:07:08AM I WON'T BE HERE TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT
10:07:10AM IT GOES FORWARD, BUT I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SCRUTINIZE IT
10:07:14AM CLOSELY WHEN THE TIME COMES.
10:07:16AM BECAUSE IT MAY NOT WORK.
10:07:18AM WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE.
10:07:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
10:07:22AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:07:25AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE, OPPOSED?
10:07:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NAY.
10:07:29AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN VOTING NO.
10:07:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MR. VIERA.
10:07:36AM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO HAVE JEAN DUNCAN
10:07:42AM TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE?
10:07:49AM >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE 18th.
10:07:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:07:51AM ON THE 18th, TO GIVE US AN UPDATE AN ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS
10:08:07AM FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE TAKING PLACE THROUGHOUT THE
10:08:11AM NORTHEAST PERTAINING TO MOTORCYCLES AND THESE SCOOTERS.
10:08:16AM THERE'S BEEN INJURIES.
10:08:18AM THERE'S BEEN ABUSE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THINGS OUT IN
10:08:23AM THE OPEN.
10:08:26AM PEOPLE ARE ABUSING THEIR AUTHORITY BY RIDING THEM IN PLACES
10:08:30AM THEY ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO RIDE.
10:08:32AM IF YOU FIND IN NORTHEASTERN AREAS OF THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE
10:08:37AM STARTING TO BAN THESE SCOOTERS.
10:08:39AM I KNOW WE HAVE A ONE-YEAR PILOT PROGRAM.
10:08:43AM I HOPE SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESEARCH THE PROBLEMS TAKING
10:08:46AM PLACE IN THE OTHER PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY AND BE ABLE TO GIVE
10:08:53AM US AN UPDATE.
10:08:54AM WE WOULD DO PREVENTION MEASURES TO ALLOW THIS NOT TO OCCUR
10:08:58AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:08:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL SECOND THAT FOR APRIL 18 UNDER STAFF
10:09:02AM REPORTS.
10:09:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK, SECOND BY
10:09:06AM COUNCILMAN COHEN.
10:09:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:09:09AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:09:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:09:13AM WE GO TO 54, SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:09:24AM >> ITEMS 54 THROUGH 57 SET FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:09:27AM ALL OF THEM ARE ON JUNE 6, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:09:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ALL THOSE ITEMS.
10:09:33AM I'M SORRY.
10:09:35AM 54 AND 55 TO JUNE 6 OF 2019.
10:09:38AM I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE TWO ITEMS.
10:09:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:09:42AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:09:43AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
10:09:45AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NUMBERS 56 AND 57, LIKE TO MOVE THAT FOR
10:09:48AM PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 27th OF 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:09:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:09:54AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:09:55AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:09:57AM OPPOSED?
10:09:57AM OKAY.
10:10:01AM >> MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:10:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:10:05AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:10:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:10:10AM >>HARRY COHEN: THAT'S THROUGH 62.
10:10:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL THOSE OPPOSED?
10:10:13AM THE MOTION CARRIES.
10:10:14AM ITEM NUMBER 58.
10:10:19AM BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SECOND READINGS, WE'LL
10:10:36AM GO TO STAFF REPORT, AND WE'LL DO ITEM NUMBER 66.
10:10:41AM ITEM NUMBER 66.
10:10:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S MR. WISE, I BELIEVE.
10:10:48AM THESE ARE THE ITEMS OVER MILLION DOLLARS.
10:10:56AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 66, 67 AND 68, SIR.
10:11:09AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR
10:11:14AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON 67.
10:11:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 66.
10:11:17AM 66 IS THE $5 MILLION PROPOSING HERE.
10:11:25AM >>ERIC WEISS: I'M ON 67.
10:11:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE FROM STAFF HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 66?
10:11:32AM ALL RIGHT.
10:11:35AM SO WE'LL HOLD THAT.
10:11:38AM 67.
10:11:41AM >>ERIC WEISS: I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE
10:11:43AM CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.
10:11:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
10:11:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 67, MR. CHAIR.
10:11:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
10:11:50AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:11:52AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:11:53AM OPPOSED?
10:11:54AM ITEM NUMBER 68.
10:11:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE A TWO-WEEK CONTINUANCE ON ITEM NUMBER
10:12:02AM 68.
10:12:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:12:05AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:12:06AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:12:08AM OPPOSED?
10:12:12AM >>HARRY COHEN: YES, THAT WOULD BE APRIL 18th.
10:12:14AM AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE --
10:12:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL GO TO ITEM 69.
10:12:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:12:29AM MARK WILFALK, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE,
10:12:31AM ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
10:12:32AM I WAS ASKED TO APPEAR TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR CART
10:12:36AM DELIVERY SERVICES AND MAYBE WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE
10:12:39AM FIVE- TO TEN-DAY TIME FRAME FOR DELIVERY.
10:12:42AM I JUST WANTED TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THE
10:12:46AM DELAYS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.
10:12:48AM IT IS OUR STANDARD THAT WE DELIVER CONTAINERS WITHIN THREE
10:12:52AM TO FIVE DAYS.
10:12:53AM WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CALL CENTERS RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT
10:12:56AM MESSAGE OUT.
10:12:57AM SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A WHILE.
10:13:00AM I BELIEVE EARLIER LAST MONTH, BRAD BAIRD AND ELIE FRANCO MAY
10:13:04AM HAVE SPOKEN WITH YOU ABOUT THE LAUNCH OF OUR NEW UTILITY
10:13:08AM MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
10:13:09AM OF COURSE, WITH ANY SYSTEM OF THAT SIZE IT'S GOING TO COME
10:13:13AM WITH A FEW GROWING PAINS AND WHATNOT.
10:13:15AM WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DISCERN RECENTLY IS SOME OF OUR
10:13:19AM FOLKS ARE STILL LEARNING SOME OF THE FEATURES OF THE SYSTEM.
10:13:22AM FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAD A WORK ORDER TO DELIVER A CONTAINER
10:13:25AM AT AN ADDRESS, SOME OF OUR STAFF ARE STILL GETTING FAMILIAR
10:13:28AM WITH THE CODES IN ORDER TO PROPERLY SYNCHRONIZE AND
10:13:32AM DISTRIBUTE THOSE WORK ORDERS.
10:13:34AM AS WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN GET MORE ACCUSTOMED TO SOME
10:13:37AM OF THE NEW TOOLS AND FEATURES WE HAVE, WE'LL BEGIN PLANNING
10:13:41AM OUR WORK ACCORDINGLY.
10:13:42AM WE ARE AWARE OF THE BACKLOG.
10:13:45AM WE PLAN ON CLEARING OUR BACKLOG UP WITHIN THE NEXT TWO
10:13:48AM WEEKS, AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE BACK TO NORMAL.
10:13:50AM BUT I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, TOO, IF ANY OF YOUR
10:13:54AM CONSTITUENTS HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF THE SERVICES THAT
10:13:56AM WE PROVIDE, JUST FEEL FREE TO GIVE US A CALL.
10:13:59AM I'M JUST A PHONE CALL AWAY.
10:14:02AM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
10:14:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:04AM YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S A THREE-
10:14:06AM TO FIVE-DAY TURNAROUND?
10:14:11AM >> THAT'S OUR GOAL.
10:14:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE I MADE SOME
10:14:14AM REQUESTS ON BEHALF OF SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE ASKED, AND IT'S
10:14:17AM TAKEN 10, SOMETIMES 15 DAYS.
10:14:20AM AND WHEN TRASH PILES UP WITH THE HEAT AND EVERYTHING, IT'S
10:14:23AM NOT --
10:14:24AM THANK YOU FOR COMING BEFORE US.
10:14:25AM I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS ARE WORKING TO EXPEDITE THAT.
10:14:30AM THAT'S MORE OF A REASONABLE TIME FRAME.
10:14:32AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:14:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:14:37AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 70 TO MAY 2nd.
10:14:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
10:14:42AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:14:43AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:14:45AM ITEM NUMBER 71.
10:14:50AM >> MIKE CHUCRAN, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, HERE FOR ITEM
10:14:53AM NUMBER 66 --
10:14:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT.
10:14:56AM WE WAITED ON YOU, NOW YOU HAVE TO WAIT ON US.
10:14:59AM 71.
10:15:08AM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:15:09AM OCEA WYNN, DEPARTMENT OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
10:15:12AM CITY STAFF WAS ASKED TO REPORT BACK ON THE SOURCES OF
10:15:17AM INFORMATION USED TO DETERMINE THE SPORE COUNT AND ACCEPTABLE
10:15:26AM RANGES FOR THE MOLD IN CITY HALL.
10:15:29AM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION.
10:15:31AM THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT DIVISION USES THE FOLLOWING AGENCY'S
10:15:38AM INFORMATION IN PROCEEDING WITH AIR QUALITY RESPONSE.
10:15:41AM FOR THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO YOU, WE USED THE
10:15:47AM NATIONAL CENTER OF BIOTECHNOLOGY INFORMATION, THE NCBI, THE
10:15:52AM NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH, THE NATIONAL ALLERGY BUREAU,
10:15:57AM THE AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL HYGIENE ASSOCIATION, THE
10:16:02AM ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AND THE NEW YORK DEPARTMENT
10:16:06AM OF HEALTH AND MENTAL HYGIENE.
10:16:10AM AND I JUST WANTED, I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THE NEW YORK
10:16:15AM DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND MENTAL HYGIENE, THAT IS THE
10:16:18AM ORGANIZATION OF AGENCY THAT SETS THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE
10:16:21AM USED BOTH NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY FOR REMEDIATION OF
10:16:29AM FUNGI IN INDOOR ENVIRONMENTS.
10:16:31AM WE USE ALL OF THOSE SOURCES OF INFORMATION WHEN WE ARE
10:16:35AM ASSESSING AND MAKING A DETERMINATION OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO
10:16:38AM ASSESS BUILDINGS THAT HAVE SHOWN SOME PARTICULATE COUNT.
10:16:46AM AS AIRBORNE PARTICULATES ARE FOUND EVERYWHERE -- AND I
10:16:52AM STRESSED THIS THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE -- THE QUESTIONS
10:16:56AM REGARDING PARTICULATES IS NOT, ARE THEY PRESENT IN BUILDINGS
10:16:59AM IN FLORIDA? BUT RATHER THE QUESTION I THINK WE ALL SHOULD
10:17:02AM BE ASKING IS, ARE THERE ANY PARTICULATES PRESENT IN
10:17:08AM EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS THAT ARE LIKELY TO IMPACT ONE'S HEALTH OR
10:17:11AM CAUSE PEOPLE WITH SENSITIVITIES TO EXPERIENCE SYMPTOMS?
10:17:15AM SO USING THE DATA PROVIDED BY THE AGENCIES THAT I JUST
10:17:21AM MENTIONED, THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT DIVISION DETERMINES SPORE
10:17:25AM COUNTS AND UTILIZED THE MOST CONSERVATIVE RANGES AND I'LL
10:17:29AM TALK ABOUT THOSE RANGES IN A MOMENT.
10:17:31AM AND WHAT WE FOUND IN USING THE DATA AND ANALYZING THE
10:17:36AM INFORMATION FROM THE REPORTS WAS THAT WHEN ANALYZING ALL OF
10:17:41AM THE INDOOR AIR QUALITY TEST RESULTS, EACH FALLS WITHIN THE
10:17:44AM LOW RANGE OF THE NUMBER OF SPORES PER CUBIC METER.
10:17:49AM SOME OF THE COMMON PARTICULATES FOUND BOTH INSIDE AND
10:17:54AM OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WERE ELEVATED ON CERTAIN DAYS BUT
10:17:59AM THEY STILL ALL FELL WITHIN THAT LOW RANGE.
10:18:01AM NOW, DEPENDING ON AN INDIVIDUAL'S TOLERANCE OR SENSITIVITY,
10:18:08AM THEY CAN EXPERIENCE SYMPTOMS AT ANY LEVEL OF THE RANGES.
10:18:15AM THE PROFESSIONAL TESTING AND ANALYSIS ARE DETERMINED BY
10:18:20AM PROFESSIONALS COMING IN, VISUALLY INSPECTING THE BUILDING,
10:18:26AM ASSESSING OCCUPANT'S SYMPTOMS, EVALUATING BUILDING
10:18:30AM PERFORMANCE, TESTING POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL SOURCES AND
10:18:34AM APPLYING FOR PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS FROM EXPERTS IN THE
10:18:38AM FIELD.
10:18:38AM NOW, ISOLATING THE SOURCES OR THE SOURCE HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT
10:18:44AM DIFFICULT AS COMMON PARTICULATES ARE FOUND BOTH OUTSIDE AND
10:18:48AM INSIDE OF BUILDINGS.
10:18:51AM PARTICULATE LEVELS FLUCTUATE AND THIS COULD BE CAUSED OR
10:18:58AM EXACERBATED BY OPEN WINDOWS.
10:19:00AM BOTH THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INDUSTRIES, PSI, THAT'S THE
10:19:05AM COMPANY WE USE TO DO THE TESTING, AND FACILITY MANAGEMENT
10:19:10AM DIVISION HAVE OBSERVED EVIDENCE OF WARPING AROUND THE
10:19:14AM WINDOWSILLS, THE BASE BOARDS, VISUAL MOLD GROWTH UNDER
10:19:21AM WINDOW SEALANT AND SMALL AREAS AROUND THE SAME WINDOW SEALS
10:19:24AM WITH ELEVATED MOISTURE.
10:19:27AM WE'VE ALSO NOTED BUBBLING PAINT AND -- IN THE SAME AREAS.
10:19:33AM NOW, THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION OR OBSERVATIONS OF WIDESPREAD
10:19:39AM MOLD OR MOISTURE DAMAGE IN THE BUILDING, WHICH WILL ALLOW
10:19:44AM ACTIVE MOLD GROWTH IN THIS BUILDING IN OLD CITY HALL.
10:19:49AM OCCASIONALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED ELEVATED MOLD
10:19:53AM SPORES.
10:19:55AM PSI, THE COMPANY WHO DOES THE TESTING, ATTESTS THAT THERE IS
10:19:59AM NO ACTIVE MOLD SPORE GROWTH IN THIS BUILDING.
10:20:04AM I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT OUT OF THE 75 PEOPLE WHO
10:20:09AM ARE IN THIS BUILDING, WORKING IN OLD CITY HALL, ONLY THREE
10:20:16AM EMPLOYEES REQUESTED TO BE MOVED DUE TO SENSITIVITIES.
10:20:21AM NOW, IN TERMS OF THE RANGES, THE RANGES ARE FROM -- I'LL
10:20:29AM TALK ABOUT THE LOW, MODERATE -- MODERATE, HIGH AND VERY HIGH
10:20:35AM -- THE COUNT FROM ZERO TO 6,499 SPORES PER CUBIC AIR, THAT'S
10:20:46AM CONSIDERED LOW.
10:20:46AM 6500 TO 12,999 THAT'S CONSIDERED MODERATE.
10:20:53AM 13,000 TO 49,999 SPORES PER CUBIC METER OF AIR IS CONSIDERED
10:21:01AM HIGH.
10:21:01AM AND ABOVE 50,000 SPORES PER CUBIC METER OF AIR IS CONSIDERED
10:21:08AM VERY HIGH.
10:21:09AM SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION THAT
10:21:15AM YOU REQUESTED FOR US TO COME BACK AND SHARE WITH YOU.
10:21:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
10:21:19AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PERTAINING TO THE WINDOWS, THE ONLY REASON
10:21:23AM THE WINDOWS WERE OPENED IS BECAUSE THERE WAS MOLD.
10:21:27AM WINDOWS OPENING DIDN'T BRING THE MOLD IN.
10:21:29AM THE MOLD WAS ALREADY HERE WHEN THE WINDOWS WERE OPEN IN
10:21:32AM ORDER TO BREATHE.
10:21:34AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
10:21:35AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SOME PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE AND THEY CAN BE
10:21:40AM AFFECTED AT THE LOW RANGE.
10:21:41AM ONLY THREE PEOPLE ASKED TO BE MOVED, BUT MANY OF US SUFFERED
10:21:45AM THROUGH IT.
10:21:46AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN 2017, THERE WAS A REPORT WHERE I AM
10:21:55AM STATING JUST IN PASSING, BECAUSE I WAS TEARING HERE ON THE
10:21:59AM DAIS AND I SAID, AND I WAS COUGHING, AND I SAID THERE'S
10:22:02AM SOMETHING IN THE AIR HERE THAT IS MAKING ME COUGH AND TEAR.
10:22:07AM SO WE WERE UP HERE AND WE WERE SUFFERING THROUGH IT.
10:22:10AM AND TO TELL US THAT THE WINDOWS OPEN BROUGHT THE MOLD IN IS
10:22:15AM NOT CORRECT.
10:22:16AM THE WINDOWS OPENED BECAUSE THE MOLD WAS THERE, AND WE NEEDED
10:22:20AM TO BREATHE FRESH AIR.
10:22:21AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
10:22:23AM IF I MAY COMMENT.
10:22:24AM DURING THE 2017 TIME FRAME IS WHEN WE WERE DOING THE
10:22:28AM ENVELOPE RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING.
10:22:30AM AND AFTER WE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT, WE HAD A PERIOD OF TIME
10:22:35AM --
10:22:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE POINT IS, YOU ALL NEVER CONSIDERED --
10:22:38AM THE ADMINISTRATION NEVER CONSIDERED THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE
10:22:41AM THAT WERE STAYING HERE DURING THAT TIME AT ALL.
10:22:43AM DID NOT MOVE US OUT.
10:22:45AM DID NOT DO ANY OF THAT.
10:22:46AM WE LIVED THROUGH THE MOLD AND SPORES AND WHATEVER ELSE --
10:22:55AM WHAT ELSE DID YOU CALL THEM?
10:22:58AM >>OCEA WYNN: AIRBORNE PARTICULATES.
10:23:02AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEY WERE REAL PARTICULAR BECAUSE THEY GOT
10:23:04AM IN OUR THROAT, IN OUR EYES, THEY GOT IN OUR SINUSES.
10:23:09AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, MOLD WAS REMOVED FROM THE WALLS IN MY
10:23:13AM LEGISLATIVE AIDE'S OFFICE JUST RECENTLY.
10:23:16AM IT ACTUALLY -- AND THERE'S MOLD IN HERE NOW.
10:23:19AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
10:23:21AM IN FLORIDA, THERE IS MOLD IN THE BUILDINGS.
10:23:24AM BUT ACCORDING TO THE REPORTS AND THE DATA, THE MOLD THAT WE
10:23:28AM HAVE, THE PARTICULATES AND SPORES THAT WE HAVE IS WITHIN THE
10:23:32AM RANGE.
10:23:33AM AS I MENTIONED, THE SENSITIVITY OF THE TOLERANCE OF A PERSON
10:23:40AM WILL DETERMINE --
10:23:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOBODY ASKED IF YOU'RE SENSITIVE.
10:23:43AM MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE HAS ASTHMA.
10:23:45AM NOBODY SAID, LOOK, IF YOU HAVE ASTHMA, YOU MAY NEED TO LEAVE
10:23:51AM THE BUILDING.
10:23:51AM NOBODY BOTHERED, NOBODY CARED.
10:23:54AM WHEN YOU STATE HERE IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE WINDOWS BEING
10:23:56AM CLOSED, TO ME, THAT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT BECAUSE THE WINDOWS
10:24:00AM WERE OPEN, THEREFORE THE HUMIDITY CAME IN WHEN IT WAS THE
10:24:04AM OPPOSITE OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
10:24:06AM SO THAT STATEMENT IS LEADING AT BEST.
10:24:10AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM, IF I MAY COMMENT TO THAT, WITH THE
10:24:13AM WINDOWS BEING OPEN, IT IS CHALLENGING FOR US TO MAINTAIN, TO
10:24:16AM EVEN DETERMINE THE SOURCES AS WELL AS MAINTAIN A CONSTANT
10:24:22AM HUMIDITY IN THE BUILDING.
10:24:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:24:26AM BUT THE HUMIDITY WAS IN THE BUILDING BEFORE THE WINDOWS WERE
10:24:29AM OPENED AND THE MOLD WAS IN THE BUILDING.
10:24:32AM AND NOBODY BOTHERED TO ASK WHAT IS YOUR SENSITIVITY TO THIS
10:24:38AM BECAUSE THIS MAY HAPPEN?
10:24:41AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
10:24:42AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHATEVER ELSE YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
10:24:46AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:24:46AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:24:47AM MS. WYNN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
10:24:50AM I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THE LIMITED MOLD REMEDIAL WORK PLAN
10:24:55AM THAT WAS PROVIDED BY PSI.
10:24:56AM THIS IS DATED DECEMBER 19 OF LAST YEAR.
10:24:59AM AND AS PART OF THEIR REPORT, UNDER PAGE -- IT WOULD BE PAGE
10:25:07AM 3 UNDER DUCTWORK, IT DOES SAY UNDER HERE, DUE TO THE VISIBLE
10:25:13AM DUST ACCUMULATION CONTAINING CONIDIOPHORE -- AND I DON'T
10:25:15AM KNOW WHAT THAT IS -- IT'S A TYPE OF FUNGUS, I BELIEVE -- AND
10:25:23AM FUNGAL HYPHAL FRAGMENTS, AND IT SAYS CONFIRMED BY TAPE LIFT
10:25:26AM ANALYSIS ON THE INSIDE OF THE METAL DUCTWORK.
10:25:28AM IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE INTERIOR OF THE DUCT BE EITHER
10:25:30AM PROPERLY CLEANED OR REMOVED AND REPLACED.
10:25:34AM THE REASON I MENTION THIS IS THAT THERE ARE CONTAMINANTS
10:25:38AM WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SOME OF THE
10:25:40AM OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU MENTIONED CONCERNING THE OPENING OF
10:25:42AM WINDOWS.
10:25:43AM AND THE REASON WHY THAT IS, IS THAT THEY DID WHAT THEY CALL
10:25:47AM A TAPE LIFT TEST, MEANING THAT THAT DUST ACCUMULATED OVER
10:25:52AM THAT TIME FRAME.
10:25:53AM IN ADDITION, THE CARPETING, ALSO ON PAGE 3 OF THE SAME
10:25:58AM REPORT, THE LABORATORY ANALYSIS FROM THE CARPET CHECK
10:26:01AM SAMPLES, WHICH IS WHAT THEY CALL DUST BULK, WHATEVER THAT
10:26:05AM IS, AND ON THE 2nd AND 6th FLOORS, THE CARPET ON THE
10:26:08AM 2nd FLOOR EXHIBITS THE PRESENCE OF STACH -- STACHTORIOUS
10:26:15AM SPORE AND CHAETOMIUM FUNGAL SPORES, WHICH ARE NOT TYPICALLY
10:26:22AM FOUND OUTDOORS AND ARE RELATED TO MOISTURE DAMAGED BUILDING
10:26:24AM MATERIALS.
10:26:25AM THE REASON I MENTION THAT, IF THEY ARE NOT TYPICALLY FOUND
10:26:29AM OUTDOORS THAT MEANS THEY WEREN'T BROUGHT IN BY SOMEONE'S
10:26:31AM FEET WHEN THEY ARE WALKING IN TO THE OFFICES AND STUFF.
10:26:34AM AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I THINK WE HAVE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE
10:26:39AM NOT DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB IN TERMS OF REMEDIATION
10:26:45AM CONCERNING THESE ISSUES.
10:26:46AM NOW, THEY FOUND IT ON THE 2nd AND 6th FLOOR.
10:26:49AM THAT MEANS IT WILL SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE
10:26:52AM BUILDING REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT STARTS OR WHERE IT IS.
10:26:54AM SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO OR WILL HAVE TO DO A
10:27:01AM FLOOR-BY-FLOOR CLOSING OFF IN ORDER TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE
10:27:06AM PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE CAN'T CLEAN ONLY ONE PART OF THE
10:27:09AM BUILDING OR EVEN ONE DUCT ON ONE FLOOR OF THE BUILDING AND
10:27:12AM NOT HAVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THROUGHOUT, BECAUSE IT WILL
10:27:17AM CONTINUE TO POP UP.
10:27:18AM AT LEAST THAT'S MY ANALYSIS BASED ON THE REPORT.
10:27:20AM SECONDLY, ON PAGE 5 OF THE SAME REPORT, IT SAYS, AND THIS IS
10:27:24AM UNDER SPECIFIC STEPS REQUIRED INCLUDE, AND IT'S UNDER STEP
10:27:29AM NUMBER 2, IT IS ASSUMED THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE CONDUCTED
10:27:33AM IN PHASES, WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT AND THEREFORE CARE
10:27:36AM SHOULD BE EXERCISED SO AS NOT TO ALLOW AIRFLOW FROM
10:27:40AM ELEVATORS, STAIRWELLS OR OTHER FLOORS TO MIX WITH THE PHASED
10:27:44AM WORK AREA, BASICALLY WHAT I WAS JUST MENTIONING.
10:27:47AM INSTALLATION OF CRITICAL BARRIERS, DEMARCATING THE WORK AREA
10:27:51AM SHALL BE PROVIDED IN ORDER TO PREVENT AIR EXCHANGE INTO THE
10:27:53AM REMAINING SPACES.
10:27:55AM I'M NOT SURE THAT'S BEEN DONE.
10:27:56AM BASED ON THIS REPORT, BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING
10:28:00AM IN THE BUILDING STILL.
10:28:01AM YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT BEEN A CLOSE-OFF OF THE BUILDING OR
10:28:05AM CLOSE-OFF IN PHASES THAT I KNOW OF.
10:28:07AM WHETHER IT'S DONE IN UPPER FLOORS, I DON'T KNOW.
10:28:09AM THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING
10:28:12AM TO DO IT, IT SAYS CRITICAL BARRIERS SHOULD BE INSTALLED
10:28:15AM AROUND ANY AREAS NOT FULLY CONTAINED, I.E., CHASES,
10:28:19AM LOCATIONS WHERE PIPE AND/OR DUCTS PASS THROUGH PLENUM FROM
10:28:26AM THE DECK TO ASSOCIATED WALLS, ET CETERA.
10:28:28AM NOW, THE REASON I MENTION ALL THIS, IT SOUNDS TO ME BASED ON
10:28:32AM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MS. CAPIN HAS MENTIONED, A LOT OF
10:28:35AM ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE BASED ON HER AIDE AND HER OFFICE, I THINK
10:28:42AM WE MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT MR. VIERA'S OFFICE WAS FLOODED
10:28:47AM AT ONE POINT.
10:28:48AM THERE WAS NO WINDOW THAT WAS OPENED.
10:28:49AM THAT WAS COMING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.
10:28:51AM I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THAT.
10:28:53AM AND SO THAT CAN CAUSE LATER ON MOLD AND OTHER ISSUES, AND WE
10:28:57AM DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
10:29:00AM ONCE THE MOLD STARTS, IT'S SELF-CONTAINED AND IT GROWS BASED
10:29:04AM ON THE FACT THAT SOMETHING HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.
10:29:05AM NOW, MY SUGGESTION IS, BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF MOLDS AND
10:29:10AM FUNGAL MATERIAL THAT MIGHT BE PRESENT IN THE BUILDING, WE DO
10:29:13AM HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PHASED PROCESS IN ORDER TO REMOVE EACH
10:29:17AM ONE OF THOSE AT SOME POINT.
10:29:20AM NOW, WE NEED TO MAYBE LOOK BACK AT WHEN WE DID THE
10:29:24AM CONSTRUCTION ON THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THE CEILING OF THE
10:29:26AM BUILDING, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS PROPERLY DONE BY THE
10:29:30AM CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THESE IN HERE.
10:29:34AM I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THERE ARE THESE FUNGAL, BASED
10:29:37AM ON THE REPORT, BASED ON THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT ALL
10:29:41AM THESE THINGS EXIST.
10:29:42AM THEY'RE HERE.
10:29:43AM EVEN IF THE LEVELS ARE NOT AS HIGH BASED ON WHAT YOUR REPORT
10:29:48AM WAS, WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE SOME
10:29:52AM WORKERS IN HERE, NEW WORKERS, MYSELF AND MR. COHEN, AND
10:29:56AM MS. CAPIN AND MR. REDDICK ARE ALL GOING TO BE GONE.
10:29:59AM THE NEW PEOPLE WILL BRING IN NEW AIDES.
10:30:02AM WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES CONCERNING ASTHMA OR
10:30:05AM ANY OTHER RESPIRATORY ISSUE.
10:30:07AM WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN HERE -- I
10:30:10AM MEAN, THERE IS A GENTLEMAN SITTING IN OUR AUDIENCE NOW THAT
10:30:13AM HAS A MEDICAL ISSUE AND HE HAS A MASK ON RIGHT NOW.
10:30:16AM NOW, HE HAS A MASK ON BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE AROUND A LOT OF
10:30:22AM FOLKS, BUT A PLACE THAT MIGHT HAVE MORE FUNGAL SPORES IN
10:30:25AM HERE MAKES IT MORE DANGEROUS FOR HIM THAN IT DOES FOR OTHER
10:30:28AM PEOPLE.
10:30:28AM WE CAN'T HAVE A LEVEL OF ACCEPTABILITY.
10:30:30AM WE HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER CLEANING AND A BETTER ANALYSIS
10:30:34AM BASED ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE
10:30:37AM DONE THAT YET.
10:30:38AM I'M NOT ASKING YOU RIGHT NOW TO COMMIT TO DOING THAT, BUT I
10:30:41AM DO THINK IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY
10:30:45AM DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT THESE DO NOT EXIST
10:30:49AM THAT WE GET RID OF ANY EXISTING MOLD CURRENTLY, THAT WE LOOK
10:30:53AM FOR AND BASED ON THE REPORT THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMISSIONED
10:30:56AM AND WE ALREADY HAVE IN HAND, ACT ON THESE REMEDIAL ISSUES
10:31:02AM AND MAKE SURE WE CLEAN IT OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL AND THAT I
10:31:05AM THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:31:06AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT PENDING IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I
10:31:10AM WOULD SUGGEST YOU GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND TELL THEM
10:31:12AM THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS ON A FLOOR-BY-FLOOR BASIS TO
10:31:16AM CLOSE OFF PIECES OF THE BUILDING.
10:31:18AM WE WERE OUT OF THE BUILDING FOR HOW LONG?
10:31:19AM A YEAR AND A HALF -- NOT A YEAR -- ABOUT A YEAR.
10:31:23AM ALMOST A YEAR, NINE MONTHS.
10:31:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE NEVER LEFT THE BUILDING.
10:31:27AM WE WERE DOWNSTAIRS.
10:31:28AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHEN WE WERE OUT OF THE BUILDING, TOO, WE HAD
10:31:30AM AVAILABILITY OF OFFICE SPACE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
10:31:32AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE THIS
10:31:40AM IS CLEAN.
10:31:41AM WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR
10:31:43AM THAT SEALED THE BUILDING, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING
10:31:47AM ACROSS THE STREET IN TERMS OF THE CONSTANT POUNDING OF THIS
10:31:50AM BUILDING, IT MAY BE CAUSING MORE ISSUES, SOMETHING THAT
10:31:53AM MR. MIRANDA HAD BROUGHT UP BEFORE WE PASSED THAT PARTICULAR
10:31:57AM RESOLUTION CONCERNING THAT BUILDING.
10:31:59AM I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN A MUCH MORE
10:32:02AM COHERENT WAY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE DOING ENOUGH
10:32:06AM IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEANSE THIS BUILDING AND
10:32:08AM EXORCISE ALL THESE FUNGAL SPORES THAT ARE EXISTING HERE.
10:32:15AM >>OCEA WYNN: IF I MAY RESPOND, SIR.
10:32:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NECESSARY FOR A
10:32:18AM RESPONSE.
10:32:18AM I WASN'T ASKING YOU A QUESTION.
10:32:20AM I THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:32:22AM THIS IS A STATEMENT TO YOU, AND I THINK THIS IS A BETTER WAY
10:32:24AM FOR YOU TO HANDLE THIS AS OPPOSED TO ANSWERING FOR SOMETHING
10:32:27AM THAT'S IN THE REPORT.
10:32:28AM I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO FIND A WAY OF CLEANSING THIS
10:32:32AM BUILDING AND NOT COME BACK WITH SOME MORE THINGS OF WHAT IS
10:32:34AM ACCEPTABLE OR NOT ACCEPTABLE.
10:32:36AM IT IS INCUMBENT ON YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION BASED ON YOUR
10:32:41AM POSITION IN TERMS OF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:32:44AM THIS BUILDING IS NOT A SICK BUILDING.
10:32:46AM WE HAVE SEEN THIS IN OTHER LOCATIONS AND MUNICIPALITIES, AND
10:32:50AM IT CAN COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND IT CAN CAUSE WORKER
10:32:54AM COMP CLAIMS AND OTHER ISSUES.
10:32:55AM I THINK THAT COMING BACK HERE TO JUST EXPLAIN THAT IT'S
10:32:58AM ACCEPTABLE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME.
10:33:00AM >>OCEA WYNN: RIGHT.
10:33:02AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I ASSUME IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO OTHER MEMBERS
10:33:04AM OF THE BOARD.
10:33:04AM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN.
10:33:07AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
10:33:08AM IT'S PART OF THE PLAN FOR THE NEXT PHASE TO USE THE STEPS
10:33:11AM THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN THOSE, CLOSING OFF THE FLOORS,
10:33:15AM THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN TO DO THAT.
10:33:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHEN YOU SAY "PLAN," THAT MEANS YOU ARE GOING
10:33:19AM TO CONSTITUTE SOMETHING WHERE THIS BUILDING WILL BE CLOSED
10:33:22AM OFF DIFFERENT FLOORS AS YOU CLEAN IT.
10:33:24AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
10:33:24AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO
10:33:26AM US?
10:33:27AM >>OCEA WYNN: I'LL HAVE MIKE CHUCRAN TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT
10:33:31AM THAT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE TIMELINE WE REPORTED THE LAST
10:33:34AM TIME WE WERE HERE TO DO THAT -- THAT IS PART OF THE WHOLE
10:33:37AM APPROACH.
10:33:38AM SO MIKE -- I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL HERE OR NOT.
10:33:43AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF MIKE HAS IT.
10:33:45AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:33:46AM MIKE, ANSWER SPECIFICALLY TO THE TIMELINE, IF YOU COULD,
10:33:52AM BASED ON WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
10:33:53AM >>MIKE CHUCRAN: THE PROJECT THAT OCEA WAS JUST SPEAKING OF,
10:33:58AM THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION ALREADY -- MIKE CHUCRAN,
10:34:02AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT.
10:34:03AM SO THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION TO GET A CONTRACTOR ON
10:34:08AM BOARD TO DO THE HVAC WORK AND ELECTRICAL WORK AND OTHER
10:34:11AM INTERIOR WORK INSIDE THIS BUILDING IS ALREADY OUT.
10:34:15AM THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE DUE AT THE END OF APRIL.
10:34:19AM WE'LL HAVE PRESENTATIONS IN JUNE, THE MAYOR WILL MAKE A
10:34:24AM SELECTION ALSO IN JUNE, AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE DESIGN
10:34:27AM BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019.
10:34:31AM WE EXPECT A DESIGN TO BE ABOUT A SEVEN-MONTH TIME FRAME TO
10:34:34AM DO THE DESIGN.
10:34:35AM AND THEN THE WORK IS EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT A ONE-YEAR
10:34:39AM CONSTRUCTION PERFORMANCE PERIOD.
10:34:40AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: LET ME ASK YOU, MICHAEL, IN TERMS OF THE
10:34:44AM SPECIFICS CONCERNING THE SPORES AND THE FUNGAL MATERIAL THAT
10:34:47AM IS IN HERE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR
10:34:52AM COME IN HCVA, IS HE ALSO SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THESE
10:34:58AM ISSUES?
10:34:59AM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THE WORK, WE'RE NOT
10:35:02AM CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS BY CHANGING THE AIR SYSTEM.
10:35:04AM AGAIN, IF YOU'RE REPLACING THE DUCTS, THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE
10:35:07AM THAT MEANS SOMETHING.
10:35:09AM BUT ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEAL THIS OFF AS MUCH AS
10:35:13AM POSSIBLE TO DO AS BEST OF A JOB POSSIBLE BASED ON THE
10:35:16AM RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MEDIATION -- REMEDIATION REPORT SO
10:35:21AM WE DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES GOING FORWARD?
10:35:23AM WE HAVE AN OLD BUILDING WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO
10:35:26AM REFURBISH.
10:35:27AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS
10:35:29AM BUILDING AND VISIT THIS BUILDING AREN'T GOING TO BE EXPOSED
10:35:31AM TO THIS TYPE OF STUFF.
10:35:33AM IS THERE PART OF THAT RFP SOMETHING CONCERNING THIS
10:35:37AM SPECIFICALLY?
10:35:38AM >>MIKE CHUCRAN: WHEN THE FIRM IS SELECTED, THEY WILL BE
10:35:43AM GIVEN THIS REPORT.
10:35:44AM THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION TO TAKE CARE OF
10:35:46AM AND REMEDIATE THAT IN THIS BUILDING.
10:35:49AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AGAIN IS IT PART OF THE RFP TO TALK ABOUT
10:35:52AM THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE?
10:35:53AM BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.
10:35:55AM >>MIKE CHUCRAN: NO, SIR.
10:35:56AM WHAT WE DO IS A RFQ.
10:35:58AM QUALIFICATION BASED.
10:35:59AM WE'RE NOT DOING A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE US ANY WORK THAT THEY
10:36:02AM WOULD BE DOING.
10:36:02AM IT'S LOOKING AT QUALIFICATIONS TO SELECT THE BEST FIRM
10:36:05AM AVAILABLE.
10:36:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WOULD MAKE A SUGGESTION TO YOU, BECAUSE I
10:36:08AM CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO IN THAT WAY AND I WON'T BE AROUND
10:36:11AM TO EITHER VOTE UP OR DOWN ON THE PARTICULAR CONTRACT, BUT I
10:36:14AM WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU INCLUDE THESE ISSUES THAT WERE PART
10:36:17AM OF OUR REPORT THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMISSIONED, THAT WE
10:36:19AM ALREADY HAVE IN HAND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER IS QUALIFIED
10:36:23AM TO DO THE DUCTWORK ALSO IS QUALIFIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
10:36:27AM ARE NOT PART OF ANY ISSUES CONCERNING THE SPORES OR ANYTHING
10:36:31AM ELSE.
10:36:31AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT IS QUALIFIED
10:36:34AM TO DO IT.
10:36:34AM I'M SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT AND
10:36:37AM SHOULD BE PART OF OUR APPROPRIATES AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
10:36:39AM TOO LATE TO DO THAT PROCESS, RFQ, I THINK YOU CAN ALLOW
10:36:45AM AFTER PRESENTATION OF THE QUALIFICATIONS, YOU CAN PROBABLY
10:36:48AM INSERT THAT AFTERWARDS.
10:36:49AM I DON'T KNOW YOUR JOB AS MUCH AS I KNOW MINE.
10:36:53AM I'M ASKING THAT BE PUT PART OF IT, IF YOU COULD.
10:36:55AM >>MIKE CHUCRAN: YES, SIR.
10:36:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
10:36:56AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:36:57AM THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR THE INDULGENCE.
10:36:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
10:37:01AM FOR THOSE WHO MAY HAVE DOCUMENTED SPECIFIED INSTANCES OF
10:37:05AM DIAGNOSIS OF CONDITIONS LIKE ALLERGIES OR ASTHMA, IS THERE
10:37:09AM GOING TO BE AN ACCOMMODATION MADE FOR THEM TO WORK FROM A
10:37:15AM DIFFERENT OFFICE?
10:37:16AM THOSE WITH DOCUMENTED MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS.
10:37:19AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, THE PEOPLE MOVED OUT OF THE BUILDING
10:37:21AM ALREADY, THEY APPROACHED US WITH THEIR MEDICAL CONCERNS OR
10:37:26AM SENSITIVITIES.
10:37:27AM AND WE HAVE PROVIDED ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR THEM TO WORK,
10:37:30AM SO, YES.
10:37:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT CONTINUES TO BE AVAILABLE.
10:37:34AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
10:37:35AM IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE AVAILABLE.
10:37:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:37:39AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HERE'S MORE ANECDOTAL.
10:37:46AM WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ALL THIS WAS GOING
10:37:51AM ON, AND PEOPLE THAT HAD ALLERGIES AND ASTHMA THOUGHT THAT
10:37:56AM THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES FOR OTHER REASONS BECAUSE WE WERE
10:38:02AM NEVER TOLD THAT THESE MOLD SPORES WERE GOING AROUND, NEVER.
10:38:06AM SO WHEN YOU SAY THEY REQUEST TO LEAVE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY
10:38:09AM HAD TO REQUEST TO LEAVE.
10:38:11AM THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
10:38:15AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
10:38:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THERE WAS NEVER A MEMO GOING OUT, LOOK, IF
10:38:18AM YOU HAVE ALLERGIES OR ASTHMA, THIS MAY AFFECT YOU.
10:38:21AM THAT DID NOT GO AROUND, DID IT?
10:38:24AM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, MA'AM, THAT DID NOT GO AROUND.
10:38:26AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:38:27AM THANK YOU.
10:38:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ASK ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
10:38:33AM HOW OFTEN IS THIS BUILDING INSPECTED FOR MOLDS AND LEAKS AND
10:38:37AM OTHER CORROSION THAT MIGHT TAKE PLACE IN A BUILDING OF THIS
10:38:41AM AGE?
10:38:42AM >>OCEA WYNN: SO WE DO THAT QUARTERLY AND WE ALSO QUARTERLY
10:38:46AM CLEAN THE AIR DUCTS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO MOLD.
10:38:51AM WE CLEAN THE CARPET WITH THE HEPATYPE CLEANING FOR ANY
10:39:01AM PARTICULATE MATTER THAT MIGHT BE IN THE CARPETS AS WELL.
10:39:05AM THAT'S DONE QUARTERLY.
10:39:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE ENTIRE BUILDING?
10:39:08AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
10:39:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FLOOR TO FLOOR?
10:39:11AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
10:39:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I'M WONDERING WHY MY AIDE WAS SUFFERING SO
10:39:20AM BAD WITH ALLERGIES.
10:39:23AM IN THE OFFICE.
10:39:25AM IF YOU FIND SOMETHING PARTICULARLY OUT OF PLACE, SAY ON THE
10:39:36AM THIRD FLOOR -- FIFTH FLOOR, WHAT IS THE REMEDIATION FOR
10:39:40AM THAT?
10:39:42AM >>OCEA WYNN: IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR, I WANT TO ASK WHAT IS
10:39:45AM OUT OF PLACE?
10:39:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, YOU FIND FUNGUS OR SOMETHING?
10:39:49AM >>OCEA WYNN: IF WE FIND FUNGUS, OUR INSPECTION COMPANY WILL
10:39:53AM COME IN TO INSPECT AND SEE, AGAIN, WHAT IS IT AND HELP
10:39:57AM IDENTIFY THE SOURCE OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY FIND.
10:40:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU ERADICATE IT?
10:40:03AM >>OCEA WYNN: OH, YES, SIR, WE DO.
10:40:06AM WE DON'T JUST LEAVE IT THERE, IF SOMETHING IS FOUND.
10:40:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU GOT TO KEEP IN MIND, THEY CALL THIS THE
10:40:14AM OLD CITY HALL BUILDING.
10:40:16AM SO THAT MEANS THIS BUILDING IS OLD.
10:40:19AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:40:19AM OKAY.
10:40:20AM AND, THEREFORE, THERE'S GOT TO BE -- I AGREE WITH
10:40:27AM MR. SUAREZ, THERE'S GOT TO BE BETTER PRESENTED MECHANISM PUT
10:40:32AM IN PLACE IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THIS BUILDING BECAUSE TOO MANY
10:40:39AM PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK, WHETHER THEY ARE REPORTING IT,
10:40:42AM TAKING DAYS OFF OR PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK.
10:40:45AM AND WE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN THAT.
10:40:52AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:40:53AM ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU?
10:40:57AM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, SIR.
10:40:59AM THAT'S IT.
10:40:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE THANK YOU.
10:41:00AM >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU.
10:41:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO BACK TO ITEM 66.
10:41:06AM >>MIKE CHUCRAN: MIKE CHUCRAN, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
10:41:08AM DEPARTMENT, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON ITEM
10:41:11AM 66.
10:41:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:41:12AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL PERTAINING TO ITEM 66?
10:41:16AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:41:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED
10:41:21AM BY MR. COHEN.
10:41:23AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:41:24AM THOSE OPPOSED?
10:41:25AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:41:28AM MS. CAPIN, GO TO THE PULLED ITEM, ITEM 39.
10:41:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM STAFF TO TALK TO US
10:41:41AM ABOUT THIS SALE?
10:41:49AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: BOB McDONAUGH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:41:51AM DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION?
10:41:57AM YEAH, THIS LAND WAS BOUGHT IN THE 1950s FOR THE USE AS A
10:42:01AM WELLFIELD BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:42:03AM SUBSEQUENTLY, IT WAS FOUND NOT TO HAVE SUFFICIENT WATER
10:42:08AM RESOURCES FOR THAT USE.
10:42:10AM IT'S BEEN LAYING FALLOW FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.
10:42:13AM CURRENTLY, THE ONLY USE FOR THAT PROPERTY IS BY THE POLICE
10:42:16AM DEPARTMENT WHO HAS A STABLE THERE.
10:42:18AM SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT SELLING IT AS A SURPLUS PROPERTY, AND
10:42:24AM WE HAVE FOUND A PARTNER IN A USE THAT WE FEEL IS VERY
10:42:28AM COMMENDABLE.
10:42:30AM WE TALK ABOUT REDUCING OUR USE AND RELIANCE UPON
10:42:37AM CARBON-BASED ELECTRICITY, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TAMPA
10:42:40AM ELECTRIC COMPANY TO HAVE THIS CONVERTED INTO A SOLAR FIELD,
10:42:44AM SO THEY WILL BE DOING A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS,
10:42:48AM WHICH THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND FOR A FEW PERIODS,
10:42:51AM TO USE IT AS A SOLAR FIELD.
10:42:55AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IS THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT?
10:42:57AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: YES.
10:42:58AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT IT BE USED AS A SOLAR FIELD?
10:43:00AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: CORRECT.
10:43:01AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:43:02AM THANK YOU.
10:43:03AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:43:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
10:43:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:05AM IN FACT, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, I WOULD HAVE
10:43:10AM NEVER KNOWN ABOUT THE SALE UNTIL I GOT HERE.
10:43:12AM I WAS NEVER ADVISED OF ANYTHING.
10:43:15AM I DON'T TAKE IT AS ANYTHING, YOU KNOW HOW I AM.
10:43:18AM I READ IT IN THE PAPER.
10:43:19AM I SAID, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, MR. McDONAUGH, I KNOW SOMETIME
10:43:23AM BACK LOOKED AT IT AS A WELLFIELD POSSIBILITY.
10:43:26AM AND THEN IT WAS DRAINED OUT A LOT WHEN WE HAD THE DROUGHTS
10:43:33AM AND THE FARMERS USED A LOT OF THAT WATER TO WATER THE FIELDS
10:43:37AM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:43:38AM THE YIELD OF IT, WENT ABOUT 16 OR 10 MILLION GALLONS A DAY
10:43:42AM TO 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WHICH IS UNFEASIBLE TO SPEND THAT
10:43:46AM MONEY TO GET 1 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.
10:43:48AM MY MIND KEEPS WANDERING AS TO WHY I NEVER KNEW.
10:43:54AM I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING AS TO WHY.
10:43:56AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:43:57AM DID YOU APPROACH SOMEBODY OR SOMEBODY APPROACH YOU?
10:44:01AM YOU MET FOR COFFEE?
10:44:03AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:44:04AM WAS IT ADVERTISED?
10:44:09AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:44:10AM MAKE SURE DO EVERYTHING THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO KNOW.
10:44:13AM I'M NOT CASTING DARK SPOTS.
10:44:16AM CERTAINLY, THE PURCHASER IS A VERY REPUTABLE COMPANY, VERY
10:44:21AM NICE COMPANY.
10:44:21AM DOES VERY CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THINGS FOR THE CITY AND
10:44:22AM THE SURROUNDING AREA.
10:44:23AM BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT 450 ACRES, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY
10:44:29AM INDIVIDUALS OR COMPANIES THAT OWN 450 ACRES AT ANY SPOT IN
10:44:35AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:44:35AM IT'S ADMIRABLE IT'S FOR THAT CAUSE.
10:44:38AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
10:44:39AM IN FACT, IT'S A PLUS.
10:44:41AM BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND I TELL MYSELF, HOW DID
10:44:44AM THIS HAPPEN?
10:44:45AM WHY IS IT HAPPENING IN APRIL IN THE END OF SUBTERM,
10:44:49AM EVERYBODY'S TERM.
10:44:50AM I QUESTION THAT IN MY OWN MINDS AND I COME UP WITH NO
10:44:55AM ANSWERS.
10:44:56AM IS IT A GIFT?
10:44:57AM NO.
10:44:57AM BUT I DON'T KNOW THE VALUE OF LAND AT 450 ACRES OF ONE SLOT
10:45:02AM OF LAND WHERE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PIECE MEALED TOGETHER TO
10:45:07AM FORM A 450-ACRE PLOT.
10:45:09AM THEREFORE, I'M ASKING, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING OR
10:45:13AM EVEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE I SPEAK SOMETIMES
10:45:16AM IN A LOT OF RIDDLES TO FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER SIDE KNOWS.
10:45:19AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: OUTSIDE OF AGRICULTURAL USES, YOU'RE
10:45:23AM CORRECT.
10:45:24AM THERE ARE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PARCELS THAT ARE LARGE.
10:45:29AM THERE ARE ACCUMULATIONS THAT ARE RANCHES AND AGRICULTURAL
10:45:31AM USES.
10:45:32AM WE DID HAVE THIS APPRAISED.
10:45:34AM WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT APPRAISALS.
10:45:35AM ONE WAS $6 MILLION, AND ONE WAS 12 MILLION.
10:45:38AM THE $12 MILLION APPRAISAL OPINED THAT IT WOULD BE USED FOR
10:45:42AM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
10:45:43AM THE COUNTY HAS DETERMINED THAT THEY ARE NOT EXTENDING THEIR
10:45:47AM URBAN SERVICE DISTRICT, WHICH RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE DEPENDENT
10:45:50AM ON, SO THERE WOULD BE NO WATER, NO SEWER.
10:45:53AM PEOPLE WOULD END UP HAVING TO USE CESSPOOLS, WHICH
10:45:57AM DEVELOPERS OR HOME BUILDERS RIGHT NOW ARE UNWILLING TO LOOK
10:46:00AM AT THAT AS A POTENTIAL.
10:46:03AM SO THAT NEGATIVELY AFFECTS THE VALUE OF IT.
10:46:07AM THERE IS ALSO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY DEPICTED AS
10:46:10AM WETLANDS, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF YEAR IT IS.
10:46:13AM WHICH IS WHY THERE IS A VARIANCE IN THE VALUE AND COST.
10:46:16AM BECAUSE WHAT WE WILL DO AS PART OF THE PROCESS IS HAVE A
10:46:21AM WETLANDS DELINEATION.
10:46:22AM DIFFERENT VALUE FOR UPLANDS THAN THERE IS FOR WETLANDS.
10:46:25AM WE INTERVIEWED BROKERS AND PROVIDED THE APPRAISALS THAT WE
10:46:31AM HAD AND DEALT WITH BROKERS THAT HAD EXPERIENCE IN DOING THIS
10:46:35AM TYPE OF THING.
10:46:36AM WE SELECTED ESHENBAUGH AND COMPANY, AND THEY WENT OUT AND
10:46:40AM SOLICITED OFFERS FOR IT.
10:46:41AM TECO, BEING THE FACT IT WAS A SOLAR FIELD WAS THE MOST
10:46:45AM ATTRACTIVE TO US.
10:46:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME GO FURTHER.
10:46:48AM I'M SAYING NONE ABOUT TECO AND THE CITY.
10:46:52AM JUST THE WAY I THINK.
10:46:53AM NOW WE HAVE RISING TIDES.
10:46:55AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LAND HAS ANY VALUE TO HAVE WATER PUMPED
10:47:01AM WHEN THE INEVITABLE IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT WILL HAPPEN, TO
10:47:03AM AN AREA OF THAT SIZE, 20 SOME YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A STUDY
10:47:09AM DONE IN CURSORY, NOT THE WHOLE COMPLETE STUDY, ABOUT SOLVING
10:47:14AM THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:47:16AM AND AT THAT TIME, IT WAS ONE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS 20
10:47:19AM SOME YEARS AGO, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DID NOT
10:47:24AM SUPPORT, NOT THAT I WAS NOT WILLING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE
10:47:28AM GOOD PEOPLE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, BUT DID NOT SUPPORT THE
10:47:31AM STORMWATER FEE BECAUSE OF 251 BILLION EXPENDED PLUS THE
10:47:36AM INTEREST, WHICH IS HALF A BILLION, IT WOULD NEVER SOLVE THE
10:47:39AM DRAINAGE PROBLEM OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:47:40AM IT WOULD SOLVE THE DAILY RAINS OF SOUTH TAMPA THREE OR FOUR
10:47:42AM TIMES A YEAR, TWO OR THREE INCHES, BUT IF SOMETHING GREAT --
10:47:46AM GREATER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN REGULAR LITTLE AFTERNOON
10:47:49AM STORM COMES BY, THE PREPONDERANCE OF WATER COMING DOWN WOULD
10:47:53AM COME BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM.
10:47:56AM IT CHANGE THE SIZE AND VOLUME OF A PIPE.
10:47:58AM IF WE HAD A PLACE WHERE WE COULD DUMP THE WATER SOMEWHERE
10:48:01AM ELSE, THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN WAS 20 SOME YEARS AGO, BUT THE
10:48:05AM COST WAS PROHIBITED.
10:48:07AM I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE PLACE.
10:48:08AM I'M JUST SAYING WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU SELL IT AND THEN YOU
10:48:11AM HAVE TO DO WHAT I JUST SAID?
10:48:13AM WHERE DO WE GO THEN?
10:48:15AM WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HORSE PATROL OF THE POLICE STATION?
10:48:18AM THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED?
10:48:20AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: TWO ANSWERS.
10:48:21AM FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION.
10:48:23AM WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THAT FOR THE HORSES.
10:48:26AM SECONDLY, THIS PIECE OF DIRT IS 15 MILES.
10:48:28AM AS THE CROW FLIES FROM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
10:48:31AM WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT EXORBITANT COSTS TO PUMP WATER THAT
10:48:36AM DISTANCE, ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT IT'S PROBABLY 15 FEET
10:48:39AM HIGHER THAN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:48:41AM SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE AKIN TO
10:48:44AM SOMETHING LIKE NEW ORLEANS DOES WITH THEIR DIKES AND PUMPS.
10:48:47AM IT IS NOT A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE PROPERTY TO DO THAT WITH,
10:48:52AM SIR.
10:48:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE COST WAS ONE AND A HALF BILLION
10:48:54AM WITHOUT THE INTEREST, NOW TWO AND A HALF BILLION WITHOUT THE
10:48:57AM INTEREST BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
10:49:00AM THAT ALSO WAS 20 SOME MILES HEADING STRAIGHT NORTH, BECAUSE
10:49:03AM THIS WAS NEVER DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING THAT I SAT IN FOR
10:49:07AM SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
10:49:08AM WE HAVE NO PLAN THEN FOR THAT COMING THAT I KNOW OF.
10:49:13AM YOU MAY KNOW, BUT I DON'T.
10:49:14AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR RELEASE A
10:49:17AM PIECE OF -- OR LEASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE HORSES.
10:49:20AM AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THERE TO KEEP THE HORSES
10:49:23AM THERE.
10:49:23AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT WITH TECO.
10:49:26AM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES AROUND THAT HAVE STABLES
10:49:30AM THAT WE'RE HAVING INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH ABOUT PUTTING
10:49:32AM THE HORSES THERE.
10:49:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE JUST, ONE, THAT WE HAVE A
10:49:36AM COMPLETE SALE -- I'M NOT AGAINST THE SALE.
10:49:38AM I NEVER KNEW ABOUT IT UNTIL I READ IT IN THE NEWSPAPER.
10:49:41AM THE HORSES NOT -- THE WATER SITUATION IS NEVER GOING TO BE
10:49:46AM RESOLVED UNLESS YOU HAVE MASSIVE PIPES AND MASSIVE
10:49:50AM EQUIPMENT, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT TO PUMP IT NORTH OR EAST.
10:49:53AM YOU CAN'T PUMP WEST.
10:49:54AM YOU CAN ONLY GO EAST OR NORTH.
10:49:56AM CAN'T GO SOUTH AND CAN'T GO WEST.
10:49:58AM SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE CITY BEFORE
10:50:03AM I AM COMFORTABLE IN MAKING A DEAL.
10:50:06AM I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD DEAL.
10:50:08AM I'M JUST SAYING THAT I AM NOT PREPARED AS ONE TO UNDERSTAND
10:50:11AM WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE HORSES.
10:50:14AM THERE'S NO PLAN TO MOVE THEM.
10:50:15AM WHAT IS THE COST THERE AT ONE TIME.
10:50:17AM I VOTED AGAINST SOMETHING ELSE THAT I STARTED.
10:50:19AM THE HEALTH CLINICS.
10:50:21AM IT WAS ONE OF MY IDEAS AND I VOTED AGAINST IT BECAUSE ONE IN
10:50:27AM BRANDON AND THE CITY OF TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN
10:50:29AM BRANDON.
10:50:30AM I'M FRUSTRATING MYSELF.
10:50:32AM I'M VENTING.
10:50:33AM IT'S NOT YOU, SIR.
10:50:34AM I LIKE YOU EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES YOU LOOK LIKE THAT MOVIE
10:50:37AM ACTOR, DRACULA.
10:50:41AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:50:41AM ANYWAY, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A COMPLIMENT.
10:50:44AM NO ANGER.
10:50:49AM I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.
10:50:52AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: FLATTERY WILL GET YOU NOTHING FROM ME.
10:50:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WILL MAKE THE HEADLINES IN TOMORROW
10:50:58AM NEWS.
10:50:59AM CHARLIE CALLS HIM DRACULA, AND I'M NOT EVEN MAD.
10:51:06AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
10:51:08AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.
10:51:11AM WHY COULDN'T WE LEASE THIS PROPERTY TO TECO FOR THEM TO --
10:51:17AM BECAUSE YOU SAID IT'S A PROJECT FOR YEAR OR TWO, THEY ARE
10:51:22AM GOING TO SEE IF IT WORKS.
10:51:23AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THEY HAVE TO DO ENGINEERING STUDIES TO SEE
10:51:26AM EXACTLY THE QUALITY OF THE SOILS, HOW MUCH WETLAND IS IN
10:51:29AM THERE.
10:51:30AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEY ARE GOING TO DO BUY IT WITHOUT THE
10:51:34AM ENGINEERING STUDIES?
10:51:35AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: NO.
10:51:36AM THAT'S WHY A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.
10:51:38AM SIX MONTHS WHICH CAN BE EXTENDED TO DO DUE DILIGENCE, MAP
10:51:41AM OUT THE WETLANDS, SOIL TESTING AND OTHER ENGINEERING STUDIES
10:51:43AM ON THE LAND.
10:51:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AGAIN, WHY ARE WE SELLING IT?
10:51:47AM WHY NOT LEASE IT TO THEM?
10:51:48AM ONCE THEY DO THEIR ENGINEERING AND THEY DECIDE, YES, THIS
10:51:52AM CAN WORK?
10:51:53AM WHY ARE WE SELLING IT?
10:51:54AM THAT PART KIND OF PERPLEXED ME.
10:51:58AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT WAS WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO US FOR THE
10:52:00AM USE OF THE LAND.
10:52:02AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHO PROPOSED IT?
10:52:04AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: TECO DID IT AS A PURCHASE.
10:52:06AM WE DID NOT APPROACH THEM AS A LAND LEASE.
10:52:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WAIT A MINUTE.
10:52:10AM FIRST, YOU PUT IT OUT FOR PURCHASE.
10:52:12AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: CAN I EXPLAIN SOMETHING?
10:52:15AM THIS LAND HAS BEEN SITTING FALLOW.
10:52:18AM EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.
10:52:20AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: FIRST YOU SAID YOU FOUND A BROKER TO PUT IT
10:52:23AM OUT TO FIND BUYERS.
10:52:25AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: RIGHT.
10:52:26AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: TECO DIDN'T APPROACH US TO BUY IT.
10:52:29AM IT WAS ALREADY UP FOR SALE.
10:52:33AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: WE APPROACHED PEOPLE TO SEE IF ANYBODY WAS
10:52:36AM INTERESTED IN THE PARTY.
10:52:37AM WE RECEIVED AN OFFER TO PURCHASE FROM TECO.
10:52:39AM THAT WOULD BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.
10:52:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:52:43AM AGAIN, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH SELLING THE PROPERTY AS
10:52:47AM OPPOSED TO LEASING IT TO THEM FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
10:52:53AM AND IF THE FARM WORKS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:52:57AM MAYBE AT THAT POINT THERE COULD BE A SALE.
10:53:01AM I THINK THIS IS AN INCOMPLETE PLAN.
10:53:05AM THANK YOU.
10:53:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
10:53:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
10:53:10AM I THINK THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE
10:53:11AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
10:53:13AM I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT NOT QUITE ALL THE WAY
10:53:16AM THERE.
10:53:17AM IN TERMS OF BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS
10:53:23AM PROJECT, MEANING NINETEEN FIVE FOR I THINK IT WAS UPLANDS
10:53:29AM AND THEN 10,000 FOR WETLANDS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
10:53:32AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: CORRECT.
10:53:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT'S THE LOWEST THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GET
10:53:36AM AND THE HIGHEST?
10:53:37AM I THINK BETWEEN SIX AND A HALF TO ABOUT 8.7 OR SOMETHING
10:53:40AM LIKE THAT?
10:53:41AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THE ESTIMATE IS SOMEWHERE LESS THAN A
10:53:44AM HUNDRED ACRES OF WETLAND, WHICH WILL BE DELINEATED.
10:53:48AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE LIKE $7.5 MILLION THAT
10:53:51AM WE'LL RECEIVE?
10:53:52AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:53:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AGAIN, THIS IS AFTER THE SIX-MONTH --
10:53:57AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: DUE DILIGENCE.
10:53:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: -- DUE DILIGENCE.
10:54:01AM MEANING WE WON'T SEE MONEY UNTIL AFTER THE DUE DILIGENCE IS
10:54:03AM DONE AND TECO AGREES TO FINALIZE THE DEAL.
10:54:06AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: CORRECT.
10:54:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE
10:54:12AM LOOKING AT, ARE ANY OF THOSE GOING TO GO TOWARDS SOMETHING
10:54:15AM SPECIFIC TO PAY A BOND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
10:54:17AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: NO, SIR.
10:54:18AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE REASON I ASK IS WE SOLD A PIECE OF
10:54:21AM PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
10:54:23AM IF I RECALL CORRECTLY BASED ON THAT DEAL, PART OF THAT WENT
10:54:27AM TO PAYING OFF A BOND, I THINK 1.5 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE
10:54:30AM THAT.
10:54:30AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: CORRECT.
10:54:31AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT WAS THE PLAN.
10:54:32AM THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN AND IT WAS PUBLIC.
10:54:35AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING BECAUSE IT
10:54:38AM GOES BACK TO SOME OF THE TIME FRAME THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT.
10:54:40AM ARE WE LOOKING AT PAYING OFF A BOND OR DOING ANYTHING ELSE
10:54:44AM SPECIFICALLY --
10:54:46AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: NO.
10:54:46AM THERE IS NOT AN ENCUMBRANCE ON THIS PROPERTY.
10:54:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT.
10:54:52AM I THINK MY COLLEAGUES, ESPECIALLY MR. MIRANDA WHO WILL BE
10:54:54AM HERE, AND I'M NOT, IF HE DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I
10:54:57AM THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD PULL THIS AND MAYBE COME BACK.
10:55:00AM MR. MIRANDA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION
10:55:02AM OR YOU THINK I SHOULD --
10:55:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S NOT THAT I'M UNCOMFORTABLE.
10:55:05AM I SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST READ IT OFF THE NEWSPAPER.
10:55:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, MR. MIRANDA, BECAUSE WE HAVE AT
10:55:14AM LEAST ONE MORE WORKSHOP BEFORE WE LEAVE AS A COUNCIL,
10:55:22AM MEANING US NOT YOU.
10:55:24AM YOU'LL STILL BE HERE.
10:55:25AM WE ALREADY KNEW THAT.
10:55:26AM TALK ABOUT DRACULA, YOU'RE STILL HERE.
10:55:28AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:55:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT.
10:55:31AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HOPE YOU DO.
10:55:32AM MAYBE WE SHOULD COME BACK AT A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THIS
10:55:35AM PARTICULAR ISSUE.
10:55:36AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FEEL THAT'S PROPER FOR YOU.
10:55:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER ASKED ANY COUNCIL MEMBER TO DO
10:55:41AM ANYTHING -- JUST DON'T DO THAT.
10:55:43AM HOW COUNCIL FEELS I'M FINE WITH IT.
10:55:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I AGREE.
10:55:48AM I'M TRYING TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I WON'T BE HERE
10:55:51AM TO HAVE A FINAL DISCUSSION ON IT.
10:55:53AM IF YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MOVE
10:55:55AM FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF
10:55:58AM RESOLUTION.
10:55:58AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WON'T BE HERE EITHER AND I FEEL STRONGLY
10:56:01AM ABOUT IT.
10:56:03AM >>SAL TERRITO: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR DISCUSSION,
10:56:06AM BUT THE LEGISLATURE HAS A BILL PENDING THAT BASICALLY SAYS
10:56:09AM YOU CAN'T SELL CITY PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED IN SOMEONE
10:56:11AM ELSE'S JURISDICTION WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.
10:56:14AM SO IF THIS THING GETS DRAGGED OUT -- AND AGAIN, IT'S YOUR
10:56:17AM DECISION -- THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO
10:56:19AM GET RID OF THE PROPERTY EVEN IF WE WANTED TO.
10:56:22AM BY DOING THE CONTRACT TODAY, THEY CAN'T IMPAIR THAT CONTRACT
10:56:25AM SO IT WOULD BE A DONE DEAL.
10:56:26AM THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY.
10:56:28AM NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR DISCUSSION, MORE DEALING WITH A
10:56:31AM LEGAL ISSUE.
10:56:31AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE COUNTY COULD STOP US
10:56:35AM FROM SELLING THE PROPERTY.
10:56:36AM >>SAL TERRITO: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:56:37AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S WHERE THE CATALYST IS AT IN TERMS OF
10:56:39AM TRYING TO SELL IT, THE TIME FRAME?
10:56:41AM >>SAL TERRITO: THAT MAY BE PART OF THE CATALYST FOR IT.
10:56:43AM I'M SIMPLY SAYING, THAT'S COME UP AND IT'S AN ISSUE YOU
10:56:47AM SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
10:56:48AM WHAT DECISION YOU MAKE IS YOURS BUT THAT'S ONE MORE ISSUE
10:56:50AM YOU MAY WANT TO DEAL WITH.
10:56:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO KNOW FURTHERMORE WHAT THE
10:56:57AM COST IS GOING TO BE.
10:56:58AM IT'S NOT A SMALL COST.
10:57:00AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HORSES WE HAVE NOW.
10:57:03AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LAND THEY NEED.
10:57:04AM EACH HORSE NEEDS ABOUT AN ACRE TO ROAM ON.
10:57:08AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE AND WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE.
10:57:10AM THE COST OF RELOCATING THE OPERATION OF THE HORSE PATROL AND
10:57:16AM THE AMENITIES THAT GO WITH IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS
10:57:19AM ARE.
10:57:19AM I'VE GOT TO KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE TO RELOCATE AND TO
10:57:22AM REPURCHASE.
10:57:24AM YOU'RE NOT MORE THAN LIKELY TO FIND A BEAUTIFUL BARN BUILT
10:57:28AM FOR YOUR HORSES TO COME RIGHT IN.
10:57:29AM IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND THAT.
10:57:31AM I DON'T KNOW OF THAT.
10:57:31AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
10:57:32AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: I CAN COME BACK WITH THAT INFORMATION FOR
10:57:34AM YOU, SIR.
10:57:36AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AFTER LISTENING
10:57:38AM TO EVERYONE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A WORKSHOP ON THIS, BUT
10:57:40AM MAYBE WE CAN CONTINUE IT TWO WEEKS TO THE 18th.
10:57:43AM COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN GET MORE INFORMATION IN THAT PERIOD.
10:57:46AM IF THEY BECOME MORE COMFORTABLE, GREAT.
10:57:48AM IF THEY DON'T BECOME MORE COMFORTABLE, THAT'S FINE.
10:57:50AM WE CAN VOTE IT DOWN, UP, WHATEVER.
10:57:52AM BUT IT WILL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO AT LEAST GET
10:57:55AM THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
10:57:57AM AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD WORK, WRAP IT UP BEFORE THE
10:58:00AM PERIOD THAT MR. TERRITO WAS ALLUDING TO.
10:58:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M ALL FOR SOLAR.
10:58:08AM >>BOB McDONAUGH: I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
10:58:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO ADD I'M ALL FOR SOLAR.
10:58:14AM I WANT TO PROTECT THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
10:58:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: IN THAT SPIRIT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
10:58:19AM CONTINUE TO APRIL 18th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:58:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
10:58:22AM >>HARRY COHEN: AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
10:58:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:58:25AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
10:58:26AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
10:58:28AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:58:30AM OPPOSED?
10:58:32AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:58:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APOLOGIZE IF I OFFEND ANYBODY WITH THE
10:58:35AM NAME OF DRACULA.
10:58:42AM >>KRISTIN MORA: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:58:44AM KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:58:46AM THERE IS MEMORANDUM, SINCE AN INTERPRETER IS PRESENT, ITEM
10:58:48AM 65, IF YOU COULD HEAR THAT AS CLOSE TO THE 10:30 TIME FRAME.
10:58:53AM I BRING THAT UP SO COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT THE INTERPRETER IS
10:58:55AM HERE AND WE ARE PREPARED TO PROCEED ON ITEM NUMBER 65.
10:59:02AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO --
10:59:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE STILL GOT ONE ITEM
10:59:07AM THAT'S BEEN PULLED.
10:59:08AM WE NEED TO GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 6 BEFORE WE GO TO -- ITEM
10:59:16AM 6.
10:59:16AM ANYBODY FROM STAFF HERE PERTAINING TO ITEM NUMBER 6?
10:59:19AM YOU ALL JUST LOST THE RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT.
10:59:31AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXCUSE ME, CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
10:59:33AM MAY I SAY SOMETHING?
10:59:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
10:59:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MY -- PULLING NUMBER 39 WAS SOMETHING THAT
10:59:41AM CAME UP THIS MORNING.
10:59:42AM NUMBER 6 WAS A MEMO.
10:59:46AM THERE WAS SOMEBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON 39 BUT NO ONE TO SPEAK
10:59:49AM ON 6 AND THAT WAS A MEMO THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH DAYS AGO?
10:59:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DEFINITELY.
10:59:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I FIND THAT DISTURBING.
11:00:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ARE YOU HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 6?
11:00:06AM >> GREG SPEARMAN, PURCHASING DIRECTOR, PURCHASING
11:00:08AM DEPARTMENT.
11:00:09AM THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF THE
11:00:13AM RED LIGHT CAMERA CONTRACT.
11:00:14AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, I'LL
11:00:18AM BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE.
11:00:21AM TPD IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AS WELL.
11:00:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I'VE GOT
11:00:27AM SEVERAL QUESTIONS I WANT TO RAISE.
11:00:30AM IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT, THEN HOPEFULLY TPD WATCHING WILL
11:00:34AM GET SOMEBODY OVER HERE WHO WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION.
11:00:38AM FIRST, THIS CONTRACT IS ON THE CALENDAR FISCAL YEAR?
11:00:45AM >> THIS CONTRACT NOT ON FISCAL YEAR, IT'S GOING TO BE FROM
11:00:48AM THE TIME IT'S AWARDED.
11:00:50AM IF THE COUNCIL AWARDS IT TODAY, IT WILL BE FOR A FIVE-YEAR
11:00:55AM TERM.
11:00:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FIVE YEARS.
11:00:56AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: CORRECT.
11:00:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WITH THE SAME COMPANY AS IN THE PAST?
11:01:00AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: YES, IT IS.
11:01:01AM WE DID A COMPETITIVE REQUEST PROPOSAL PROCESS AND THE
11:01:03AM INCUMBENT COMPANY WAS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY CAME BACK AND WON
11:01:07AM THE PROPOSAL.
11:01:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MUCH THE CONTRACT FOR?
11:01:09AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY WHAT THE CONTRACT IS.
11:01:13AM THERE IS A FEE THAT'S INVOLVED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE RED
11:01:18AM LIGHT CAMERA COST IS.
11:01:19AM THE CITY GETS A PORTION OF THAT.
11:01:22AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ANY COSTS TO THE CITY, IT
11:01:25AM HAS TO COME OUT OF WHAT THE CITY WOULD MAKE IN TERMS OF
11:01:30AM COSTS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE COST OF THE CAMERAS WOULD BE.
11:01:33AM IF THE FEE -- IF THE FEE HAPPENS TO BE LESS THAN WHAT WE
11:01:38AM MAKE, THEN THE CITY DOESN'T -- IT'S A COST-NEUTRAL CONTRACT
11:01:41AM TO THE CITY.
11:01:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY IN
11:01:44AM PLACE THAT REQUESTING OUR APPROVAL TODAY, THE BENEFIT COST
11:01:49AM TO THE CITY WOULD BE HOW MUCH OF THAT CONTRACT?
11:01:51AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE DETAILS ON THE
11:01:53AM COST, COUNCILMAN REDDICK, BUT IT IS COST NEUTRAL TO THE
11:01:59AM CITY.
11:01:59AM IT DOES NOT COST THE CITY ANYTHING AT ALL.
11:02:02AM IF WE HAVE REVENUES THAT ARE LESS THAN WHAT THE CAMERA COSTS
11:02:06AM ARE.
11:02:06AM IF WE HAVE REVENUES ABOVE THAT, THEN THERE IS A COST THAT WE
11:02:10AM ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE COST OF THE CAMERAS.
11:02:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE SHARE REVENUES FROM THIS CONTRACT WITH
11:02:15AM THE CITY, COUNTY.
11:02:18AM IS IT CITY AND STATE?
11:02:19AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: IF I COULD JUST SHARE YOU WHAT THE STATE
11:02:22AM STATUTE READS VERY BRIEFLY.
11:02:24AM THE ACTUAL CAMERA FEE IS $158, BUT THERE IS A BREAKOUT OF
11:02:31AM THE FEES IN TERMS OF WHO GETS WHAT.
11:02:33AM THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE $158 FEE IS ACTUALLY $75.
11:02:37AM AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO VARIOUS
11:02:40AM OTHER ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
11:02:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:02:43AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: AND BASICALLY, IF I COULD JUST SHARE WITH
11:02:46AM YOU VERY QUICKLY, $158 FOR A VIOLATION WHEN A DRIVER FAILS
11:02:51AM TO STOP AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
11:02:54AM ENFORCED BY A COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY.
11:02:58AM SEVENTY DOLLARS WILL BE REMITTED TO THE COUNTY OR
11:03:01AM MUNICIPALITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR DEPOSIT INTO
11:03:04AM THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND.
11:03:07AM TEN DOLLARS SHALL BE REMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
11:03:09AM FOR DEPOSIT INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND THREE
11:03:14AM DOLLARS WILL BE REMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
11:03:17AM DEPOSIT IN TERMS OF BRAIN AND SPINAL CORD INJURY.
11:03:21AM THE BALANCE OF THAT IS $75 WHICH ACTUALLY REMAINS WITH THE
11:03:25AM ENTITY.
11:03:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE ENTITY GETS $75.
11:03:29AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THE CITY WOULD ACTUALLY GET $75.
11:03:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MUCH -- THE CONTRACTING, WHAT IS THEIR
11:03:42AM PERCENTAGE?
11:03:43AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: IF THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS EXCESS FUNDS, THEN
11:03:48AM WE WOULD ACTUALLY PAY THE CAMERA COMPANY OUT OF THAT.
11:03:51AM IF THE FINDS COME IN BELOW WHAT THE CAMERA COSTS WOULD BE,
11:03:54AM THEN THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY.
11:03:56AM AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE DETAILS, BUT THAT IS THE WAY THE
11:03:58AM FORMULA WORKS WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.
11:04:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS INFORMATION HANDY,
11:04:03AM BUT DO YOU RECALL IN 2017 HOW MUCH AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTION
11:04:14AM RECEIVED?
11:04:15AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: I DO NOT HAVE THOSE FIGURES.
11:04:17AM >> IS IT MORE THAN WHAT THE CITY RECEIVED?
11:04:20AM DOES IT EXCEED WHAT THE CITY RECEIVE -- PORTION?
11:04:24AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: WE DON'T PAY THE CAMERA COMPANY ANY FEES AT
11:04:27AM ALL.
11:04:28AM IF, IN FACT, WE HAVE REVENUES LESS THAN WHAT THE CAMERA
11:04:31AM COSTS ARE.
11:04:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:32AM NEXT QUESTION, YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER BECAUSE
11:04:40AM DEALING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT I'M ASKING NOW.
11:04:42AM WHEN A PERSON APPEALS A CITATION, THEY COME HERE FOR COURT,
11:04:51AM IS THAT CORRECT?
11:04:51AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THEY CAN APPEAL A TICKET.
11:04:56AM THEY ARE THE PROCESSING PLACE.
11:04:57AM I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
11:04:58AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TPD HANDLES, BUT THERE IS AN APPEALS
11:05:01AM PROCESS.
11:05:02AM I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY CAN ADDRESS.
11:05:03AM >>SAL TERRITO: SAL TERRITO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:05:06AM THERE ARE HEARINGS HERE ON FRIDAY AND THEY COME AND APPEAL
11:05:09AM THOSE TO A POLICE OFFICER SITTING HERE.
11:05:10AM IT IS APPEALED TO THEM.
11:05:12AM IF THEY HAVE AN APPEAL AND THE DECISION IS MADE WHETHER THEY
11:05:15AM PAY THE TICKET OR NOT.
11:05:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE KNOW OR DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE
11:05:19AM OR WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT APPEALED THE
11:05:22AM CITATION IN 2018?
11:05:23AM >>SAL TERRITO: I DO NOT.
11:05:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT ABOUT 2017?
11:05:26AM >>SAL TERRITO: I HAVE NO FIGURES AT ALL ON THAT, SIR.
11:05:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DAMN, AIN'T NOBODY HERE PREPARED FOR NO
11:05:31AM ANSWERS.
11:05:31AM THIS IS RIDICULOUS HERE.
11:05:35AM WE CAN'T GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
11:05:40AM MS. LITTLE, I'M GOING TO TRY YOU.
11:05:43AM DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION PERTAINING TO WHAT AMERICAN
11:05:53AM TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS RECEIVES AS PART OF THEIR REVENUE FROM
11:05:56AM THIS CONTRACT AND THE CITY PORTION AS A PART OF THE CITY
11:06:02AM SHARE OF THE CONTRACT?
11:06:04AM DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION FOR 2017-2018.
11:06:06AM >>SONYA LITTLE: YES, SIR, I DO.
11:06:09AM WE CONTROL RECORDS OF ALL MONIES RECEIVED IN TOTAL, AND THEN
11:06:17AM WE OBVIOUSLY REPORT THE EXPENSES THAT ARE PAID OUT TO THE
11:06:25AM VENDOR, AND THEN WE REPORT NET REVENUES ON A FISCAL BASIS.
11:06:29AM I CAN GIVE YOU THOSE FIGURES, CHAIRMAN, FOR 2017, YOU
11:06:33AM INDICATED.
11:06:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:06:35AM YES.
11:06:36AM >>SONYA LITTLE: FY 2017, OUR REPORTED AND AUDITED NUMBERS
11:06:40AM FOR REVENUES WAS $5,077,052.
11:06:52AM THE EXPENSES IN THAT FISCAL YEAR PAID TO ATS WAS 2,257,132
11:07:00AM FOR NET REVENUE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA OF $2,819,920.
11:07:06AM OF THAT NET REVENUE FIGURE FOR THE INTERSECTION, SAFETY
11:07:14AM CAMERA -- SAFETY PROGRAM, $704,980.
11:07:21AM THAT'S THE 25%.
11:07:23AM AND THEN THE SAME FIGURES FOR FY '18, REVENUES, 5,618,749.
11:07:32AM EXPENSES, 2,332,251.
11:07:39AM NET REVENUES, 3,286,498 WITH A CONTRIBUTION TO THE
11:07:46AM INTERSECTION SAFETY PROGRAM OF $821,625.
11:07:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO THE CITY PAID THE COST FOR A ANY
11:07:59AM EXPENSES THAT MIGHT INCUR?
11:08:01AM WITH THE CAMERAS?
11:08:02AM >>SONYA LITTLE: PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT, AND I BELIEVE
11:08:05AM MR. -- THAT MR. SPEARMAN WAS GIVING YOU THE TERMS OF THE
11:08:11AM CONTRACT.
11:08:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
11:08:16AM THE CITY IS PAYING FOR ALL THE EXPENSES THAT INCUR WITH THE
11:08:21AM CAMERAS?
11:08:21AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THAT ONLY HAPPENS, COUNCILMAN REDDICK, AS
11:08:25AM MS. LITTLE INDICATED, IF THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY
11:08:29AM THAT WE MAKE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE COST OF THE CAMERA
11:08:32AM WOULD BE, THEN WE WOULD PAY THE FIRM OF THE COST OF THE
11:08:35AM CAMERAS.
11:08:36AM IF WHAT THE REVENUE IS LESS THAN THE COST OF THE CAMERA,
11:08:40AM NEUTRAL TO THE CITY, THEN WE PAY NOTHING.
11:08:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT WAS -- OH, WELL, LET ME STICK TO YOUR
11:08:47AM JOB.
11:08:48AM I'M ABOUT TO ASK A FINANCIAL QUESTION.
11:08:50AM 2017, WHAT WERE THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES PAID OUT.
11:08:56AM COULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN?
11:08:58AM >>SONYA LITTLE: 2017, 2,257,132.
11:09:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 2018, DO YOU HAVE THOSE FIGURES?
11:09:06AM THAT WAS IN 17 WHAT YOU JUST GAVE.
11:09:10AM >> YES.
11:09:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: FIGURES FOR '18?
11:09:13AM >>SONYA LITTLE: EXPENSES FOR '18.
11:09:15AM YES, SIR, THESE FIGURES ARE AUDITED.
11:09:16AM THE FIGURE IS FOR '18 FOR THE EXPENSES PAID OUT WAS
11:09:20AM 2,332,251.
11:09:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME WRAP UP BY ASKING A COUPLE MORE
11:09:28AM QUESTIONS, A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS DEALT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
11:09:33AM BEING HERE.
11:09:33AM SIR, YOU BACK UP AGAIN.
11:09:39AM YOU SAY THIS HAS BEEN REBID, NEW CONTRACT FOR FIVE YEARS.
11:09:45AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: CORRECT.
11:09:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE TERMINATION CLAUSE IN THE
11:09:52AM CONTRACT?
11:09:53AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THE TERMINATION CLAUSE BASICALLY INCLUDES A
11:09:56AM PENALTY TO THE CITY ON A PER APPROACH OR PER INTERSECTION
11:10:02AM BASIS SHOULD THE CITY TERMINATE THE CONTRACT PRIOR TO THE
11:10:05AM FIVE-YEAR TERM.
11:10:08AM THAT WOULD BE NOT FOR EXISTING CAMERA INSTALLS BUT NEW
11:10:11AM CAMERA INSTALLS.
11:10:12AM THAT I BELIEVE IS ABOUT $1500 PER APPROACH.
11:10:17AM SO IT WOULD BE FOR ALL THE NEW INSTALLATIONS, NOT FOR THE
11:10:21AM ONES ALREADY IN EXISTENCE TODAY.
11:10:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT
11:10:26AM HOW MANY CAMERAS DO WE HAVE OUT IN THE CITY AS PART OF THIS
11:10:29AM CONTRACT?
11:10:30AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: I AM NOT CERTAIN TO THAT NUMBER.
11:10:33AM WE DO HAVE ATS HERE THIS MORNING AND THEY CAN PROBABLY
11:10:37AM ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
11:10:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THEY ARE HERE?
11:10:39AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: YES.
11:10:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GET THEM UP HERE.
11:10:53AM >> HELLO.
11:10:53AM JASON NORTON.
11:10:55AM >> DAVID MAST.
11:10:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MANY CAMERAS WILL BE HANGING IN THIS
11:11:02AM CITY?
11:11:03AM >> WE HAVE 54 CAMERAS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE CITY OF
11:11:05AM TAMPA.
11:11:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 54.
11:11:08AM WHAT ARE THE TOP FIVE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY ARE HANGING?
11:11:14AM >> IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION THAT I'M SURE TPD HAS AN
11:11:19AM IMMEDIATE ANSWER TO.
11:11:20AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHERE WE ARE LOCATED IN TAMPA WAS BASED
11:11:23AM ON TAMPA PD'S OPINION OF WHERE THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE
11:11:27AM NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
11:11:29AM AND OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME THOSE INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE
11:11:35AM HAVE A SYSTEM, WE SAW A 22% REDUCTION IN ACCIDENTS AT THOSE
11:11:39AM INTERSECTIONS SINCE YOU ALL HAVE HAD A SYSTEM.
11:11:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT ARE THE TOP FIVE LOCATIONS WITH THE
11:11:45AM MOST CITATIONS?
11:11:49AM >> TPD CAN PULL IT UP AT ANY TIME.
11:11:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU GUYS CAME HERE BASICALLY TO SEE IF
11:11:55AM WE'LL SAY YES AND YOU ALL GO BACK, RIGHT?
11:11:58AM >> NO, SIR.
11:11:58AM WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SORT OF THE MECHANICS OF THE
11:12:02AM PROPOSAL THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:12:04AM A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE THAT CURRENTLY YOUR SORT OF
11:12:10AM AGGREGATE RATE PER APPROACH IS ABOUT THIRTY-NINE HUNDRED AND
11:12:12AM EIGHTY-ONE DOLLARS, WHICH WAS A REDUCTION FROM YOUR PREVIOUS
11:12:15AM TERM.
11:12:16AM UNDER THE NEW AGREEMENT, WE'RE PROPOSING A SIGNIFICANT
11:12:19AM UPGRADE IN TECHNOLOGY AT EVERY LOCATION AND REDUCING THE
11:12:24AM RATE BY OVER 10% TO $3600.
11:12:27AM ANOTHER IMPORTANT FEATURE OF THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT WE ARE
11:12:35AM OFFERING THE CITY OF TAMPA $540,000 CREDIT FOR A TECHNOLOGY
11:12:39AM KNOWN AS AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER.
11:12:43AM YOU MAY REMEMBER THE USE OF THAT IN YOUR SERIAL KILLER
11:12:46AM INVESTIGATION THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR AND HOW CRITICAL IT
11:12:51AM PROVED TO KNOW WHERE THAT VEHICLE WAS MOVING WITHIN THE CITY
11:12:55AM TO IDENTIFY THE SERIAL KILLER.
11:12:57AM WE ACTUALLY LOANED YOU ALL A TRAILER DURING THAT TIME WHICH
11:13:02AM HELPED TO CREATE YOUR GEOFENCE.
11:13:05AM AND WE DID THAT AT NO ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
11:13:08AM WE SAW A NEED FROM A CLIENT AND WANTED TO HELP.
11:13:11AM WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE IMPORTANT FEATURES OF THIS AGREEMENT
11:13:15AM WAS THAT WE NOT ONLY WOULD BE YOUR RED LIGHT CAMERA VENDOR
11:13:18AM GOING FORWARD, BUT WE WILL ALSO BE -- A BETTER INVESTIGATIVE
11:13:24AM TOOL THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST WITH REAL-TIME
11:13:27AM INFORMATION FEEDING INTO YOUR REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER TO HELP
11:13:30AM YOU ALL BE A SAFER COMMUNITY.
11:13:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK ONE LAST QUESTION THEN.
11:13:34AM TPD JUST WALKED IN.
11:13:37AM I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S GOT THE REPORT, BUT I WILL YIELD TO MY
11:13:42AM COLLEAGUES, AND THEN I RAISE SOME QUESTIONS WITH TPD.
11:13:45AM WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE TO YOUR COMPANY TO HAVE THIS CONTRACT
11:13:55AM WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA?
11:13:58AM >> I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND, COUNCILMAN REDDICK, THE STRUCTURE
11:14:01AM OF THIS AGREEMENT.
11:14:02AM THE CITY IS OUT NO MONEY FOR ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
11:14:07AM IS IN PLACE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:14:10AM WE ABSORB ALL OF THE CAPITAL OUTLAY TO PUT THIS SYSTEM INTO
11:14:14AM YOUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE YOU SAFER.
11:14:17AM AND THEN WE HAVE AGREED IN THE PAST THAT WE GET PAID BACK
11:14:21AM OVER TIME.
11:14:22AM IN FLORIDA, IT HAS TO BE A FIXED FEE.
11:14:26AM YOU CANNOT REVENUE SHARE IN FLORIDA.
11:14:29AM THAT IS WHY IT IS THE $3600 FIGURE.
11:14:32AM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE IN OTHER STATES, BUT IN FLORIDA
11:14:35AM THAT'S THE WAY THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE STRUCTURED.
11:14:37AM AND SO THE 3600 IS BASED ON THE FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT AND,
11:14:41AM FRANKLY, WHY WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A LOWER PRICE BASED ON
11:14:46AM THE TERM.
11:14:47AM SO OUR BENEFIT IS 3600 TIMES 54, WHICH COMES OUT, AS SHE
11:14:55AM SAID, TO ABOUT 2.3 MILLION.
11:14:57AM YOUR BENEFIT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IS CLOSE TO $3 MILLION A
11:15:03AM YEAR IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T SEE IF
11:15:08AM THAT SYSTEM WAS NOT THERE.
11:15:09AM ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IS
11:15:13AM THAT, AS YOU KNOW, TAMPA GENERAL IS A LEVEL 1 TRAUMA CENTER.
11:15:18AM PART OF THIS PROGRAM HELPS FUND THAT LEVEL 1 TRAUMA CENTER
11:15:23AM AT TAMPA GENERAL.
11:15:25AM SO OVER THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS, TAMPA GENERAL HAS SEEN
11:15:32AM ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING TO THE TRAUMA CENTER
11:15:34AM FROM THE RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM BASED ON THE WAY THAT THE
11:15:39AM REVENUE IS SHARED OF THAT OTHER AMOUNT THAT THE CITY DOES
11:15:44AM NOT SEE.
11:15:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:15:49AM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT A TRAUMA CENTER.
11:15:53AM BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW THAT $7 MILLION CAN ALSO BE
11:15:59AM BETTER USED BASED ON THE DATA I'LL GET FROM THE POLICE
11:16:02AM DEPARTMENT.
11:16:02AM I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.
11:16:04AM BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAID, IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THIS
11:16:07AM COMMUNITY, BUT I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MR. MIRANDA.
11:16:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I RESERVE MY TIME.
11:16:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
11:16:14AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I RESERVE MY TIME.
11:16:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THEN WE'LL CALL TPD UP.
11:16:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY OFFICE PRINTED OUT, I REQUESTED MY AIDE TO
11:16:27AM DO THIS, THE AREAS FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE WHERE THE
11:16:30AM RED CAMERAS ARE AT IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS THIS JUST FOR
11:16:34AM ANYBODY THAT HAS ALL THE LOCATIONS.
11:16:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:16:41AM TPD.
11:16:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:16:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, THE TOP FIVE
11:16:58AM CITATION AREAS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE
11:17:02AM LOCATED, THE TOP FIVE?
11:17:04AM >> SIR, THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION ON THE PRESENTING OF
11:17:08AM THIS DISCUSSION, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.
11:17:10AM I'LL HAVE TO BRING THAT DATA BACK TO YOU.
11:17:12AM I HAVE MORE GENERAL DATA.
11:17:14AM I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC BREAKDOWN OF THE INTERSECTIONS.
11:17:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU KNOW WHETHER ANYONE GOES TO THIS
11:17:21AM APPEAL COURT, LAW ENFORCEMENT?
11:17:24AM DO THEY BE PRESENT AT THE APPEALS COURT?
11:17:28AM IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL IT, APPEALS COURT?
11:17:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IT'S A HEARING MASTER.
11:17:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HEARING MASTER, YEAH, YEAH.
11:17:35AM LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENT AT THAT?
11:17:36AM >> I DID NOT.
11:17:37AM WE HAVE OUR SPECIALIST IS LIEUTENANT MESSMER ON THAT.
11:17:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW MANY OF THOSE WHO
11:17:46AM APPEAR BEFORE THAT COURT, HOW MANY CITATIONS BEEN OVERTURNED
11:17:52AM BY THE HEARING MASTER?
11:17:53AM >> NO.
11:17:54AM I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.
11:17:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU KNOW -- DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF HOW
11:18:01AM MANY CITATIONS BEEN ISSUED ON 22nd AND HILLSBOROUGH
11:18:07AM AVENUE?
11:18:07AM >> I HAVE TOTAL FOR THE CITY BUT NOT FOR BREAKDOWN BY
11:18:10AM INTERSECTION.
11:18:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MANY IN 2017 IN THE CITY?
11:18:28AM >> SO FOR 2017, 79,437 RED LIGHT CAMERA TICKETS WERE ISSUED.
11:18:36AM AND WE REVIEWED 120,511.
11:18:41AM IN 2017, 79,437 RED LIGHT CAMERA TICKETS WERE ISSUED.
11:18:52AM 120,511 REVIEWS WERE CONDUCTED.
11:18:57AM BASICALLY THAT MEANT WE HAD 120,000 REVIEWS, 120,511 REVIEWS
11:19:03AM THAT CAME TO A POLICE OFFICER FOR REVIEW.
11:19:05AM OUT OF THAT REVIEW, 79,437 WERE MOVED FORWARD.
11:19:17AM >>HARRY COHEN: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY ARE THROWN OUT
11:19:20AM BEFORE THE PERSON EVEN GETS A CITATION?
11:19:22AM >> THE 120,000, CORRECT.
11:19:24AM ACTUALLY, THIS IS AT THE OFFICER LEVEL.
11:19:26AM FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN THROWN OUT BY ATS BEFORE
11:19:30AM THEY EVEN GET TO US.
11:19:32AM LET'S TAKE A RIGHT TURN, FOR EXAMPLE.
11:19:33AM SOMEBODY MAKES A RIGHT TURN ON RED, IT DOESN'T EVEN GET TO
11:19:36AM US UNLESS THEY GO OVER 18 MILES AN HOUR.
11:19:39AM AFTER 18 MILES AN HOUR, IT COMES TO US FOR REVIEW.
11:19:41AM THEN WE MAY OR MAY NOT SEND IT FORWARD FOR A TICKET.
11:19:45AM IT'S GOING THROUGH SEVERAL FILTER PROCESSES.
11:19:47AM >>HARRY COHEN: BUT I THINK THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED,
11:19:49AM OKAY, SO THEN, YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT
11:19:54AM BEFORE THE PERSON GETS THEM, HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT GET
11:19:56AM THEM ACTUALLY COME IN AND CONTEST THEM?
11:19:59AM I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE WERE --
11:20:02AM >> I DO NOT HAVE THAT.
11:20:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA.
11:20:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:20:10AM I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
11:20:13AM I DON'T KNOW THIS.
11:20:14AM IF YOU CONTEST A RED LIGHT CAMERA TICKET AND YOU DO NOT
11:20:17AM PREVAIL IN COURT, DO YOU HAVE TO PAY COURT COSTS AND
11:20:20AM ADDITIONAL FINES?
11:20:22AM >> WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS YOU HAVE 60 DAYS TO PAY THE
11:20:25AM ADMINISTRATIVE FIND OF $158.
11:20:27AM IF YOU DON'T DO THAT AND DON'T ASK FOR AN EXTENSION THEN IT
11:20:30AM WILL GO TO A REGULAR UNIFORMED TRAFFIC CITATION OF 261 AND
11:20:34AM THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE SAME PROCEDURES YOU WOULD HAVE IN
11:20:37AM COURT AS WITH ANY OTHER TICKET.
11:20:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:20:40AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:20:41AM ARE THERE ANY, LACK OF USE OF A BETTER TERM, PAYMENT
11:20:45AM OPTIONS, PAYMENT PLANS?
11:20:46AM BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR WHOM $158 IS A BRIDGE
11:20:51AM TOO FAR.
11:20:52AM ARE THERE ANY KNOWN PAYMENT OPTIONS?
11:20:54AM >> WHILE I CAN'T TELL YOU ANY SPECIFIC CITATIONS ON THAT,
11:20:58AM I'VE OVERHEARD CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE
11:21:01AM AND EXTENDED DATES.
11:21:02AM I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES BUT I HAVE HEARD OF THAT
11:21:05AM HAPPENING.
11:21:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:21:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WE LOOK AT CRASH DATA.
11:21:10AM WHEN A POLICE OFFICER GOES TO AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT, IS IT
11:21:16AM TRUE IN ORDER TO GET A GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, IF THERE'S NO
11:21:19AM FIXED ADDRESS, THEY USE THE NEAREST INTERSECTION TO PROVIDE
11:21:22AM THE DATA?
11:21:23AM LET'S SAY BUSCH AND FLORIDA AVENUE AND HAPPENS A LITTLE
11:21:29AM FARTHER -- IS THAT HOW IT'S DONE?
11:21:31AM >> THE QUESTION IS TWOFOLD.
11:21:33AM WHEN WE'RE REPORTING THE CRASH, IF IT HAPPENS AT THE
11:21:35AM INTERSECTION, A CRASH REPORT REQUIRES AT AN INTERSECTION, IF
11:21:38AM IT'S NOT AT THE INTERSECTION, THEN IT WILL SAY HOW MANY FEET
11:21:42AM AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION.
11:21:44AM THAT'S ON THE ACTUAL CRASH REPORT.
11:21:45AM SO THEN WHAT THAT DATA IS TRANSCRIBED OVER AND USED, I DON'T
11:21:50AM KNOW THE EXACT THING.
11:21:53AM I THINK WITHIN A COUPLE OF FEET OF THE INTERSECTION STILL
11:21:55AM CONSIDER IT, BUT ONE IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE
11:21:58AM GENERAL INTERSECTION.
11:21:59AM SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE AT AN INTERSECTION AND A LOT OF
11:22:03AM TRAFFIC CONGESTED, YOU'RE A HUNDRED FEET AWAY BUT THE CAUSE
11:22:07AM OF THE ACCIDENT WAS THE INTERSECTION BUT WHAT THE EXACT
11:22:10AM NUMBER IS, I CAN'T TELL YOU BUT WITHIN A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET
11:22:13AM OF THE INTERSECTION.
11:22:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT DATA USED, BEFORE RED LIGHT
11:22:16AM CAMERAS INSTALLED AT SAID INTERSECTION, LOOK AT THE CRASH
11:22:20AM NUMBERS BEFORE AND THEN THE CRASH NUMBER AFTER, WOULD THOSE
11:22:22AM NUMBERS BE ALL MIXED TOGETHER?
11:22:24AM LET'S SAY I GET REAR-ENDED 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE LIGHT.
11:22:27AM IT'S NOT AT THE INTERSECTION BUT NEARBY, SO YOU USE THAT
11:22:30AM GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION AND DISTANCE TO DETERMINE THAT FOR THE
11:22:34AM REPORT, DOES THAT GET THROWN INTO THE REPORT TO SAY TELL US
11:22:40AM HOW THE CRASHES HAVE INCREASED OR DECREASED AT THAT
11:22:44AM INTERSECTION?
11:22:45AM WOULD THEY ALL BE MIXED IN BECAUSE NEARBY OR OUTSIDE THE
11:22:48AM BUFFER ZONE?
11:22:50AM >> IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW WE RAN THE REPORT.
11:22:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PER OFFICER DISCRETION DEPENDING ON A
11:22:55AM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
11:22:57AM >> YOU MEAN PULLING THE DATA?
11:22:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID IT DEPENDS ON WHO WRITES THE
11:23:02AM REPORT.
11:23:03AM ONE OFFICER MAY PUT AT THE INTERSECTION AND THROW IT IN --
11:23:06AM >> NO.
11:23:06AM I'M TALKING ABOUT PULLING THE DATA.
11:23:08AM WHEN WE RECORD THE DATA, THE OFFICER HAS TO RECORD THAT AS
11:23:10AM IT IS ON THE CRASH REPORT.
11:23:12AM IT WOULD ACTUALLY SAY AT THE INTERSECTION OR WITHIN A
11:23:14AM HUNDRED FEET OF THE INTERSECTION, 200 FEET.
11:23:17AM THERE'S NO DISCRETION ON THAT.
11:23:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:23:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
11:23:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THE INTERSECTION.
11:23:24AM SO THE INTERSECTION IS STATED.
11:23:26AM IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION IS, THAT DATA THAT IS A
11:23:30AM HUNDRED FEET FROM THAT INTERSECTION, WAS THAT INCLUDED IN
11:23:34AM THE NUMBERS OF CRASHES AT THE INTERSECTION?
11:23:39AM >> THAT I CAN'T TELL YOU.
11:23:40AM I DIDN'T RUN THAT REPORT.
11:23:42AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BECAUSE I REMEMBER YEARS AGO, WHEN WE FIRST
11:23:44AM CAME ON COUNCIL, WE HAD A RESTAURANT THAT CAME IN, AND WAS
11:23:48AM LOOKING FOR -- WE WERE DISCUSSING IT.
11:23:53AM I REMEMBER THE POLICE REPORT.
11:23:54AM THE POLICE REPORT HAD ALL THESE INCIDENTS REPORTED TO THIS
11:23:59AM LOCATION.
11:23:59AM WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, IT DID NOT HAPPEN AT THE LOCATION.
11:24:04AM IT HAPPENED AT THE STREET NEARBY.
11:24:05AM IT WAS NOT THAT LOCATION, BUT IT WAS REPORTED AS THAT
11:24:10AM LOCATION.
11:24:10AM SO WHEN I'M TOLD THAT IT'S 100 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION, I
11:24:14AM REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION OF THAT PARTICULAR RESTAURANT AND
11:24:17AM HOW WE HAD TO DECIPHER WHAT EXACTLY DID HAPPEN AT THE
11:24:22AM LOCATION AND WHAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THAT LOCATION.
11:24:25AM BUT IT WAS REPORTED AS THAT LOCATION.
11:24:28AM SO I HAVE TO, WITHOUT YOU HAVING THE -- THAT INFORMATION, MY
11:24:34AM PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THIS, I WOULD SAY, YES, THAT DATA THAT
11:24:39AM HAPPENED A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION WAS
11:24:42AM INCLUDED IN THE INTERSECTION REPORT, BECAUSE THAT HAS
11:24:47AM HAPPENED BEFORE, AND THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS REPORTED.
11:24:50AM THIS WAS 2010.
11:24:53AM >> THAT MAKES SENSE.
11:24:54AM THAT'S BACK TO MY POINT EARLIER, THE OFFICER IS GOING TO
11:24:57AM WRITE THE REPORT THAT IT SAYS 100 FEET OR 200 FEET AWAY.
11:25:01AM WHETHER OR NOT IT'S INCLUDED WHEN WE RUN THE DATA AND RUN A
11:25:03AM REPORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT INTERSECTION, THAT'S UP,
11:25:06AM WHETHER HUNDRED FEET OR TWO HUNDRED FEET IS HOW WE'RE
11:25:10AM PULLING THAT REPORT.
11:25:10AM SO THAT DATA IS THERE, BUT IT'S HOW WE'RE RECALLING THAT
11:25:14AM DATA AND LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF IT'S RELATED.
11:25:17AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IN 2010, IT WAS HAPPENING AT THIS LOCATION
11:25:20AM OF THIS RESTAURANT.
11:25:22AM BUT WHEN WE DELVE INTO IT, IT WAS NOT.
11:25:24AM IT WAS CLOSE.
11:25:26AM IT WAS ON THE STREET.
11:25:27AM IT WAS NEARBY.
11:25:28AM IT WAS IN THE ALLEY.
11:25:29AM IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:25:30AM BUT IT WAS NEAR THIS LOCATION.
11:25:32AM SO BEING THAT THAT'S THE HISTORY THAT I HAVE, THEN THAT'S
11:25:39AM WHAT I HAVE TO THINK WAS ALSO DONE WHEN WE HAD THESE REPORTS
11:25:47AM ON THESE INTERSECTIONS, THAT THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY ALL HAPPEN
11:25:50AM AT THE INTERSECTION, AND THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT I'D LIKE TO
11:25:56AM HAVE CLEARED UP.
11:25:57AM >> AND THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, AND I WASN'T AVAILABLE HERE
11:26:01AM WHEN THAT HAPPENED, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN SOME CASES,
11:26:04AM THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF IT'S A HUNDRED FEET AWAY AND
11:26:06AM RELATED TO THE INTERSECTION.
11:26:08AM IN YOUR EXAMPLE, IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:26:10AM YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL CRASH REPORT TO SEE IF
11:26:13AM THAT MADE SENSE FOR THAT INTERSECTION.
11:26:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
11:26:16AM BUT IT WAS REPORTED.
11:26:17AM MY POINT IS THAT -- IT MIGHT BE A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT WAS
11:26:21AM THE HISTORY OF WHAT WAS BEING DONE.
11:26:23AM I NEVER HEARD THAT IT WAS -- THAT IT HAD CHANGED ANY.
11:26:28AM IT WAS BEING REPORTED AS HAPPENING ON THAT PROPERTY OR AT
11:26:32AM THAT LOCATION, AND WHEN WE LOOKED INTO IT, IT WAS NOT
11:26:36AM NECESSARILY TRUE.
11:26:38AM VERY LITTLE, IF NOTHING HAPPENED ON THAT PROPERTY.
11:26:40AM IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED ON THE ALLEY.
11:26:42AM IT HAPPENED IN THE STREET.
11:26:43AM IT HAPPENED CLOSE BY.
11:26:45AM THAT WAS THE CLOSEST LOCATION TO WHERE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED
11:26:48AM SO IT WAS REPORTED THAT WAY.
11:26:49AM SO MY POINT IS THIS, IT MIGHT BE 2010, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD
11:26:52AM THAT IT CHANGED ANY SINCE 2010.
11:26:55AM AND THE REPORTING IS THAT THERE MAY BE REPORTING THAT THESE
11:27:01AM INCIDENTS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN INTERSECTION, AND THEY DID
11:27:04AM NOT.
11:27:04AM IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER CAUSE.
11:27:06AM I'D -- I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR HOW THAT WAS REPORTED.
11:27:13AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS AND ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THE
11:27:18AM INCIDENTS HAPPENED.
11:27:19AM THAT'S WHAT I HAVE -- YOU CAN'T HELP ME BECAUSE YOU DON'T
11:27:27AM HAVE THOSE NUMBERS OR THAT INFORMATION.
11:27:29AM >> WE WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT.
11:27:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:27:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A FEW COMMENTS.
11:27:35AM I NEVER SUPPORTED RED LIGHT CAMERAS, EVEN BEFORE I GOT
11:27:38AM ELECTED, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AGAINST THEM A FEW
11:27:40AM YEARS AGO.
11:27:41AM I THINK IT'S AN OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT.
11:27:44AM I THINK IT REACHES A MORE PARANOID DRIVER, CERTAINLY FOR ME
11:27:48AM AND OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW, I'M VERY CAREFUL IN GENERAL.
11:27:50AM I'M A VERY GOOD, SAFE DRIVER WITH A GOOD DRIVING RECORD, BUT
11:27:54AM WHEN YOU HIT A SINGLE PARENT OR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S WORKING
11:27:59AM MULTIPLE JOBS WITH $158 TICKET, EVEN IN THE APPEAL PROCESS,
11:28:03AM IF THEY CAN GET IT DOWN TO $100 OR WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS
11:28:07AM -- I'VE NEVER HAD ONE, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE -- THAT
11:28:10AM CAN SET THEM BACK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME IF LIVING
11:28:13AM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, IF THEY ARE IN THE RESTAURANT
11:28:16AM INDUSTRY, THEY'RE WORKING ON TIPS, THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE
11:28:19AM RENT, TRYING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, THEY ARE WORKING
11:28:22AM MULTIPLE JOBS, THEY HAVE SEVERAL CHILDREN, WHATEVER IT IS,
11:28:26AM I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST IT.
11:28:28AM AND THE DATA I REMEMBER SEEING WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS A FEW
11:28:31AM YEARS AGO, I DIDN'T SEE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN BEFORE AND
11:28:37AM AFTER.
11:28:38AM THERE WERE CERTAIN DIFFERENCES, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO SWAY ME TO
11:28:44AM SUPPORT THESE.
11:28:45AM I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AGAINST THESE RED LIGHT
11:28:47AM CAMERAS.
11:28:47AM I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN SINCE THE BEGINNING, AS I ALREADY
11:28:50AM MENTIONED.
11:28:50AM BUT I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOVING FORWARD.
11:28:53AM JUST MY THOUGHTS.
11:28:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:28:55AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:28:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:28:57AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.
11:29:00AM ARE YOU GOING TO REWARD PEOPLE FOR TAKING A RED LIGHT?
11:29:05AM >> ARE WE REWARDING PEOPLE?
11:29:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST TALKING TO MYSELF OUT LOUD.
11:29:10AM WHAT ARE WE DOING?
11:29:12AM HOW MANY REPEATERS DO WE HAVE?
11:29:13AM DO YOU KNOW, OFFICER?
11:29:14AM >> NO, I DON'T.
11:29:16AM WE'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT.
11:29:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY REPEATERS WE
11:29:21AM HAVE?
11:29:22AM WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE SOCIETY IS
11:29:25AM HEADING, ALL OF US.
11:29:27AM COMB YOUR HAIR, EAT LUNCH IN THE CAR, DRIVE TO WORK, EVERY
11:29:34AM DAY ON WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, I DRIVE FROM
11:29:38AM HERE TO OLDSMAR AND BACK.
11:29:40AM AND I DO NOT TAKE THE SAME ROUTE.
11:29:44AM BY PLAN, NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO.
11:29:48AM I WANT TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
11:29:50AM AND EVERY WEEK, THERE'S NOT ONE WEEK -- I ASK ANYBODY TO
11:29:53AM CHALLENGE ME, DO THE SAME THING I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO.
11:29:57AM WHEN YOU GO TO THE RED LIGHT AND YOU SEE IT COMING, STOP AND
11:30:01AM LOOK AROUND.
11:30:02AM I GUARANTEE YOU ONCE A WEEK YOU'LL CATCH SOMEBODY TAKING A
11:30:05AM RED LIGHT YOURSELF WHERE THERE IS NO CAMERA.
11:30:08AM I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
11:30:11AM SO WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY ARE WE BRINGING?
11:30:15AM WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OURSELVES?
11:30:17AM THE QUESTION WAS, HOW MANY REPEATERS DO WE HAVE?
11:30:21AM >> SO TAMPA HAS WHAT WE CALL AN 82% RECIDIVISM RATE, MEANING
11:30:27AM THAT 82% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED A TICKET IN TAMPA
11:30:31AM DID NOT RECEIVE A SECOND ONE.
11:30:33AM THEY CHANGED THEIR BEHAVIOR.
11:30:35AM THEY STARTED DRIVING MORE SAFELY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS
11:30:38AM CLEARLY THE GOAL AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YEARS AGO WHEN WE
11:30:42AM DISCUSSED THE SYSTEM TO BEGIN WITH.
11:30:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU'RE SAYING THAT 18% --
11:30:47AM >> YES.
11:30:48AM AND SO 18%, APPROXIMATELY 15% OF THOSE HAVE RECEIVED TWO
11:30:51AM TICKETS AND 3% HAVE RECEIVED THREE OR MORE.
11:30:55AM >> THAT'S OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM.
11:30:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ARE WE SAYING?
11:30:59AM CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM?
11:31:00AM WHAT ARE WE DOING?
11:31:03AM STILL $158?
11:31:06AM >> STILL 158.
11:31:07AM REMEMBER, THAT'S BASED ON STATE STATUTE.
11:31:09AM THERE'S NO ESCALATION.
11:31:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:31:11AM THAT'S WHY I HOPE IT GETS TO THE STATE SO THEY CAN HEAR IT.
11:31:15AM I'M NOT FOR OR AGAINST.
11:31:17AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY.
11:31:20AM SOMEBODY LOSES THEIR LIFE, CARELESS OR TAKING A RED LIGHT
11:31:28AM CAMERA, I'M LOOKING AT 18% OR 15% OF THEM BASICALLY WHO HAVE
11:31:34AM REALLY TAKEN THE CHALLENGE TO THE END.
11:31:38AM THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO SWIM AND THEY ARE SWIMMING IN DEEP
11:31:41AM WATER.
11:31:42AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LAST TOO LONG BEFORE THEY KILL
11:31:44AM SOMEBODY.
11:31:45AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:31:46AM SOONER OR LATER, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN -- IF IT HASN'T
11:31:50AM HAPPENED ALREADY.
11:31:53AM >> THE TAMPA AREA DOES SUFFER AS YOU WELL KNOW, HIGH
11:31:58AM PEDESTRIAN FATALITY RATE.
11:31:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT, TAMPA AREA.
11:32:01AM WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA.
11:32:03AM TOP TWO OR THREE IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
11:32:05AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:32:06AM I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING MORE.
11:32:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:32:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:32:09AM ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME?
11:32:15AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.
11:32:17AM I DO THINK THAT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION THAT HAS BEEN
11:32:21AM PAID TO THIS TOPIC, BOTH PUBLICLY OVER THE PAST SIX TO NINE
11:32:26AM MONTHS AND ALSO IN HERE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF THE
11:32:29AM ADMINISTRATION HAD BEEN PREPARED WITH MORE STATISTICS TO
11:32:31AM ANSWER SOME OF WHAT WERE VERY PREDICTABLE QUESTIONS.
11:32:35AM BUT THAT SAID, THIS CONTRACT IS VERY SIMILAR IN STRUCTURE TO
11:32:39AM THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED ORIGINALLY.
11:32:42AM AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT RED LIGHT RUNNING IS A
11:32:46AM MAJOR SOURCE OF TRAFFIC FATALITIES, NOT JUST IN THIS
11:32:49AM COMMUNITY BUT PERIOD.
11:32:50AM AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN TO OUR OFFICES ALL THE TIME ABOUT
11:32:54AM SPEEDING.
11:32:55AM WELL, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT SPEEDING CAMERAS OUT.
11:32:58AM WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REPLACE LIVE OFFICERS WITH SPEEDING
11:33:02AM CAMERAS.
11:33:02AM BUT WE ARE UNDER STATE STATUTE ALLOWED TO PUT OUT RED LIGHT
11:33:06AM CAMERAS WHICH ALLOW US TO DEPLOY LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES,
11:33:10AM HUMAN LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES ELSEWHERE.
11:33:13AM AND I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT, I THINK THE FACT THAT 82% OF
11:33:16AM THE PEOPLE DO NOT RECEIVE A SECOND TICKET MEANS THAT IN THE
11:33:20AM PLACES THAT WE HAVE THESE CAMERAS, THEY DO ACT AS A
11:33:23AM DETERRENT, AND WHILE I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE ARGUMENTS THAT
11:33:27AM MR. MANISCALCO MADE ABOUT THE ONEROUS NATURE OF THE FINE,
11:33:31AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS IS PREVENTABLE BEHAVIOR.
11:33:35AM IF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THEY SHOULD MAKE AN EFFORT
11:33:39AM TO STOP AT THE LIGHTS.
11:33:41AM MR. MIRANDA IS 100% RIGHT.
11:33:43AM PEOPLE ARE DISTRACTED.
11:33:44AM THEY'RE TEXTING.
11:33:45AM THEY'RE COMBING THEIR HAIR.
11:33:46AM THEY ARE GOING TOO FAST.
11:33:50AM THEY ARE IN A HURRY.
11:33:51AM THEY ARE RESISTING THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE
11:33:56AM TO TRY TO AFFECT DRIVER BEHAVIOR.
11:33:58AM AND IT'S MY OPINION THAT THESE ARE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL IN
11:34:02AM MAKING OUR ROADWAYS SAFER.
11:34:04AM I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THEM.
11:34:06AM PEOPLE DON'T LIKE A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DO IN ORDER TO SLOW
11:34:09AM DOWN THE TRAFFIC AND OFTEN MAKE IT TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER
11:34:12AM TO GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
11:34:16AM BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS WORKS.
11:34:18AM AND IT WORKS BECAUSE, YES, MAYBE THERE ARE AN INCREASE IN
11:34:21AM REAR END ACCIDENTS AT SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS, BUT WHEN
11:34:24AM A PERSON RUNS A RED LIGHT, THEY RUN THE RISK OF KILLING
11:34:28AM SOMEONE.
11:34:28AM THEY RUN THE RISK OF AN ACCIDENT WHERE THERE IS A T-BONE,
11:34:32AM WHERE THERE IS A HEAD-ON COLLISION AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE
11:34:34AM EITHER SEVERELY INJURED OR KILLED.
11:34:37AM I THINK BALANCING IT ALL OUT, THAT IT'S WORTH CONTINUING TO
11:34:40AM DO.
11:34:41AM THAT'S MY OPINION.
11:34:42AM I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE FEEL DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
11:34:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
11:34:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
11:34:49AM MAYBE YOU, MR. MAST, YOU SAID -- OR YOU, MR. NORTON -- 54
11:34:56AM TOTAL CAMERAS NOW.
11:34:57AM >> YES, SIR.
11:34:57AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THE REASON I'M ASKING, BASED ON THE
11:35:00AM INFORMATION THAT MR. VIERA PULLED FROM HIS STAFF ABOUT THE
11:35:03AM POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 55 LOCATIONS.
11:35:05AM SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS.
11:35:08AM >> SO YOU HAVE 55 LOCATIONS.
11:35:10AM ONE OF THE CAMERAS HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY TURNED OFF.
11:35:14AM SO YOU HAVE 54 ACTIVE LOCATIONS.
11:35:17AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S ONLY ONE CAMERA PER LOCATION, IS THAT
11:35:20AM WHAT IT IS?
11:35:22AM >> SO IT DEPENDS ON THE WIDTH OF THE INTERSECTION AND HOW
11:35:26AM MANY LANES WE NEED TO COVER, BUT EVEN IF WE HAVE TO USE A
11:35:30AM SECOND CAMERA TO CATCH ADDITIONAL LANES AT THAT LOCATION,
11:35:35AM WHAT WE WOULD CALL AN APPROACH, WE DO NOT CHARGE YOU FOR
11:35:38AM THAT SECOND CAMERA.
11:35:41AM SO IT WOULD BE, IF YOU APPROVE THIS, 3600 AND, YES, IN SOME
11:35:46AM OF THOSE, THERE WOULD BE TWO CAMERAS BUT WOULD HE NOT CHARGE
11:35:49AM YOU MORE FOR THE SECOND CAMERA.
11:35:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WE MIGHT HAVE MORE
11:35:52AM THAN 54 ACTIVE CAMERAS AT THESE INTERSECTIONS BASED ON THE
11:35:57AM NEED THAT WE HAVE AND THE WAY THE INTERSECTION IS AND THINGS
11:36:00AM LIKE THAT, CORRECT?
11:36:01AM >> RIGHT.
11:36:02AM WE VIEW IT AS POLES.
11:36:03AM EVEN THOSE TWO WOULD BE ON THE SAME POLE, WHICH GOES TO OUR
11:36:06AM ALPR CREDIT.
11:36:08AM WE GAVE YOU A $10,000 CREDIT PER POLE FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY.
11:36:12AM THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER.
11:36:14AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS BASED ON WHAT
11:36:17AM MS. LITTLE HAD GIVEN US IN TERMS OF, AND ALSO IN TERMS OF
11:36:21AM SOME OF THE NUMBERS YOU ALL WERE GIVING US, WHICH IT LOOKS
11:36:24AM TO ME -- I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THIS -- BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE
11:36:27AM NET AMOUNT THAT NOW GOES TO YOU AS OF 2018, IS 2% LESS THAN
11:36:32AM WHAT WE HAD THE YEAR BEFORE.
11:36:34AM NOW, WHY THAT REDUCTION?
11:36:36AM BECAUSE NOW IT LOOKS AS IF WE GAINED -- YOU KNOW, WE GAINED
11:36:41AM MORE, WENT FROM 56% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT COMES OUT TO
11:36:45AM THE CITY, THE NET AMOUNT, TO 58%.
11:36:51AM WHY THE REDUCTION IN THE -- NOT THE CONTRACT, BUT IN TERMS
11:36:54AM OF YOUR --
11:36:58AM >> RESPECTFULLY, WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM COUNCIL --
11:37:01AM >> TALKING FROM '17 TO '18?
11:37:03AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES, '17 TO '18.
11:37:07AM >> CAMERA REVENUE?
11:37:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TOTAL AMOUNT COMING IN.
11:37:10AM >> IF THE CAMERA IS DOWN, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF ROAD
11:37:13AM CONSTRUCTION, IF ROAD CONSTRUCTION IS DOWN AND THE CAMERA IS
11:37:17AM NOT OPERABLE, WE DO NOT CHARGE, SO WE MAY CHARGE LESS.
11:37:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE IT WAS
11:37:25AM BASED ON A REGULAR FORMULA.
11:37:26AM THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS THE CONTRACT -- IS IT A
11:37:30AM THREE-YEAR CONTRACT, WOULD ONE YEAR ADDITIONAL THAT COULD BE
11:37:33AM APPROVED OR IS IT A TOTAL OF FIVE YEARS, 100%?
11:37:38AM >> IT'S FIVE YEARS, 100%. AND MR. SPEARMAN CAN SPEAK TO
11:37:43AM THIS IF HE WANTS.
11:37:45AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ISN'T THAT A CHANGE FROM THE LAST CONTRACT?
11:37:47AM DID WE HAVE A ONE PLUS ONE?
11:37:49AM >> YES.
11:37:50AM THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT IT WAS.
11:37:52AM OUR COMPETITORS, WHEN THEY SHOWED UP AT THE PREBID MEETING
11:37:58AM ASK THE CITY OF TAMPA TO CONSIDER A FIVE-YEAR TERM.
11:38:01AM WE WERE MORE THAN WILLING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ORIGINAL
11:38:05AM STRUCTURE AT THREE, BUT IT WAS OUR COMPETITORS WHO DROVE THE
11:38:08AM ADDITIONAL YEARS.
11:38:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T SOME
11:38:12AM SEMANTICAL DIFFERENCE WHEN HE SAID FIVE YEARS, WOULD HAVE
11:38:15AM BEEN A TOTAL OF FIVE YEARS BUT IT IS A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT.
11:38:18AM >> IT IS.
11:38:18AM AGAIN, NOT BASED ON OUR REQUEST.
11:38:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: FIVE-YEAR WITHOUT ANY AUTOMATIC RENEWAL THAT
11:38:22AM COULD COME UP AND COME BEFORE ANOTHER COUNCIL, CORRECT?
11:38:27AM >> THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY --
11:38:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
11:38:30AM MEANING THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REBID AFTER FIVE YEARS.
11:38:33AM IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
11:38:34AM THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE OUR ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS
11:38:38AM THREE, ONE PLUS ONE.
11:38:39AM MR. SPEARMAN COMES UP AND SAYS IT IS A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT,
11:38:42AM BUT THERE'S NO CLAUSE IN THERE THAT GIVES YOU AN ADDITIONAL
11:38:44AM ONE PLUS ONE ON THERE LIKE WE DID PREVIOUSLY, CORRECT?
11:38:48AM >> CORRECT.
11:38:49AM >>HARRY COHEN: CAN I JUST ADD -- BUT IT'S CANCELABLE,
11:38:53AM CORRECT?
11:38:53AM THE CONTRACT IS CANCELABLE WITH 30 DAYS' NOTICE, JUST WE
11:38:57AM HAVE TO EAT THE COST OF THE ACTUAL CAMERA ON THE --
11:39:02AM >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
11:39:03AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I WANT TO POINT OUT, AND I'VE BEEN
11:39:06AM VERY PUBLICLY IN FAVOR OF THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS FOR A LOT OF
11:39:09AM DIFFERENT REASONS.
11:39:09AM I'VE BEEN IN THREE MAJOR ACCIDENTS IN MY LIFE.
11:39:12AM TWO OF THOSE ACCIDENTS WERE BECAUSE PEOPLE RAN RED LIGHTS OR
11:39:16AM TRAFFIC DEVICES.
11:39:16AM ONE WAS A STOP SIGN AND ONE -- AND THAT WAS RIGHT IN WEST
11:39:20AM TAMPA AND NOT THAT FAR FROM WHERE THE OLD AQUA EATOS WAS AT.
11:39:27AM AND THE OTHER KENNEDY AT WESTSHORE.
11:39:30AM THE PERSON RAN THE RED LIGHT, COMING SO FAST, THEY FUSED
11:39:36AM THEIR CAR ONTO MY CAR, AND WE COULD NOT REMOVE IT.
11:39:41AM THEY HAD TO SPLIT IT UP WITH THE JAWS OF LIFE IN ORDER TO
11:39:46AM GET IT OFF OF THERE.
11:39:47AM I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE TELL PEOPLE
11:39:50AM THAT THIS IS A VIOLATION THAT HAS TO BE STOPPED.
11:39:53AM I LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A REDUCTION OF 82% FROM A FIRST
11:39:57AM RED LIGHT CAMERA TO A RECIDIVISM RATE IS ONLY 18%.
11:40:02AM THAT'S PHENOMENAL, AND I THINK THAT'S TERRIFIC.
11:40:04AM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OVER HERE AND EXPLAINING SOME OF
11:40:08AM THE DETAILS ABOUT THE CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMING
11:40:11AM FORWARD.
11:40:11AM THANK YOU.
11:40:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:40:13AM MR. VIERA.
11:40:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:40:16AM THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS WHAT I CALL A LOT OF GRAY IN THIS.
11:40:21AM THERE IS THE ISSUE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO BROUGHT UP OF FOLKS
11:40:24AM HAVING TO PAY THE FINES.
11:40:25AM THERE IS THE LOSS OF THE HUMAN ELEMENT THAT COMES IN GIVING
11:40:30AM SOMEBODY A TICKET.
11:40:31AM OFTEN THE POLICE OFFICER GIVES YOU A TICKET.
11:40:33AM THEY CAN ASSESS THE SITUATION, ASSESS THE INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE
11:40:36AM DEALING WITH AND THAT CAN HAVE A FACTOR.
11:40:38AM MY OFFICE, WHEN I SAW THIS COMING UP, I WANTED TO LOOK AT
11:40:42AM STATISTICS IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE YOU HEAR A LOT.
11:40:44AM YOU HEAR A LOT OF THINGS OUT IN THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF RED
11:40:47AM LIGHT CAMERAS, WHY THEY ARE AT CERTAIN PLACES, THE RESULTS
11:40:51AM OF RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
11:40:52AM YOU LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS, FIRST, A STUDY FROM THE
11:40:57AM FLORIDA HIGHWAY SAFETY MOTOR VEHICLES, I DON'T WANT TO CALL
11:41:01AM IT INCONCLUSIVE, BUT THERE ARE STATISTICS THAT GO FOR RED
11:41:07AM LIGHT CAMERAS AND SOME THAT COULD BE USED AGAINST THEM.
11:41:09AM YOU SAW A SIGNIFICANT -- ROUGHLY, ALMOST 20% DROP IN CRASHES
11:41:14AM INVOLVING NON-MOTORISTS, A VERY SMALL NEGLIGIBLE DROP
11:41:17AM INVOLVING CRASHES INVOLVING RUNNING A RED LIGHT AND ACTUAL
11:41:20AM INCREASE WE ALL KNOW ABOUT 11% IN REAR-END COLLISIONS.
11:41:25AM FOR ME, WHAT WAS VERY BINDING, IF YOU WILL, WAS THIS STUDY
11:41:28AM THAT WE FOUND FROM THE INSURANCE JOURNAL, WHICH WAS A STUDY
11:41:32AM BROUGHT UPON BY THE AUTO INSURERS WHO OBVIOUSLY I THINK HAVE
11:41:38AM ONE OF THE GREATEST STAKEHOLDERS IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY
11:41:42AM ARE SAFE DRIVERS BECAUSE THEY OFTEN MAKE PAYOUTS.
11:41:45AM IT INDICATES THAT TRAFFIC DEBTS FROM RED LIGHT CAMERA
11:41:47AM CRASHES GO UP NEARLY A THIRD AFTER CITIES TURN OFF CAMERAS
11:41:52AM DESIGNED TO CATCH MOTORISTS IN THE ACT, ACCORDING TO A STUDY
11:41:55AM BY THE INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY AND IT FOUND
11:41:58AM THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN FATAL CRASHES AND GOES INTO IT
11:42:03AM HERE.
11:42:03AM YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE STUDIES ON THE ISSUE OF FATALITIES.
11:42:09AM I THINK THIS IS BINDING AND VERY, VERY SERIOUS IN THAT
11:42:11AM REGARD.
11:42:12AM VERY GOOD ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THE TICKETS ARE A
11:42:14AM SIGNIFICANT BURDEN UPON WORKING PEOPLE, IF YOU ARE EARNING
11:42:17AM BEFORE TAXES, TEN DOLLARS AN HOUR, WHICH IS ABOVE THE
11:42:19AM MINIMUM WAGE OF A LITTLE OVER EIGHT DOLLARS AN HOUR, A
11:42:23AM TICKET LIKE THAT IS A REAL BURDEN ON YOU.
11:42:25AM WE KNEE AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
11:42:27AM BUT A BIGGER BURDEN, SUBSTANTIALLY BIGGER BURDEN IS IF
11:42:31AM YOU'RE A VICTIM OF A CAR CRASH, IF YOU OR A LOVED ONE ARE A
11:42:36AM VICTIM OF A FATALITY OR A VICTIM AS A PEDESTRIAN, THAT'S A
11:42:39AM BIGGER BURDEN, A THOUSAND TIMES BIGGER BURDEN.
11:42:43AM I'M AN ATTORNEY.
11:42:43AM I OFTEN DEAL WITH THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS.
11:42:46AM MY BROTHER IS AN ATTORNEY, DEALS IN SOCIAL SECURITY
11:42:49AM DISABILITY.
11:42:50AM HIS CLIENTS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SERIOUS CAR CRASHES.
11:42:53AM THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT BURDENS, TOO.
11:42:54AM WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT OUT BEFORE US IN COUNCIL TODAY.
11:42:57AM THANK YOU.
11:43:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT I'M WONDERING, THE CITIES ALL AROUND US
11:43:06AM STOPPED RED LIGHT CAMERAS --
11:43:14AM >> IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, YOU HAVE PORT RICHEY, NEW PORT
11:43:18AM RICHEY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY MAINTAINS ITS TEN CAMERA SYSTEM
11:43:23AM AND SIGNED A RENEWAL WITH US, AND YOU ALSO HAVE -- ORLANDO
11:43:31AM RECENTLY RENEWED.
11:43:32AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS TEN CAMERAS?
11:43:34AM >> HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS TEN CAMERAS, YES, MA'AM.
11:43:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SIZE OF HILLSBOROUGH
11:43:37AM COUNTY IS?
11:43:38AM TEN CAMERAS?
11:43:39AM >> WE'VE OFFERED THEM MORE.
11:43:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEY WON'T TAKE IT.
11:43:42AM THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT, RIGHT?
11:43:44AM >> NO, IT HAD --
11:43:47AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: KEEP GOING.
11:43:49AM I'M SORRY.
11:43:49AM >> LAKELAND, ORLANDO, I DON'T KNOW HOW IMMEDIATE YOU WANT --
11:43:54AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ST. PETERSBURG.
11:43:56AM >> ST. PETERSBURG CANCELED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
11:43:59AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PINELLAS COUNTY?
11:44:02AM SARASOTA?
11:44:03AM >> A LOT OF THAT, IF YOU'LL RECALL, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT
11:44:06AM A LOT OF THAT WAS BASED ON UNCERTAINTY IN THE JUDICIAL
11:44:12AM SYSTEM AND WHETHER COMMUNITIES, MUNICIPALITIES WERE GOING TO
11:44:14AM HAVE AN EXPOSURE, IF THEY CONTINUED TO OPERATE THEIR SYSTEM.
11:44:19AM WHAT WAS FINALLY DECIDED LAST YEAR, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE
11:44:23AM ADDRESSED THAT EARLIER IS THE SUPREME COURT HAS RULED ON
11:44:25AM THIS NOW AND CREATED CLARITY STATEWIDE THAT IT IS
11:44:29AM PERMISSIBLE.
11:44:31AM SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE POINT OF HUMANS DON'T MAKE THE
11:44:35AM DECISION, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE BECAUSE A MEMBER OF TPD
11:44:42AM MAKES EVERY DECISION ON WHETHER SOMETHING GOES OUT.
11:44:44AM WE HAVE ZERO ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
11:44:46AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: REAL QUICK SO THE MEMBER OF TPD THAT MAKES A
11:44:50AM DECISION, IS THAT PART OF THE EXPENSES THAT WAS REPORTED?
11:44:53AM WHOEVER GETS PAID --
11:44:58AM >> IT IS HOUSED AT YOUR MARINE AND AIR UNIT.
11:45:00AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT IS PART OF THE
11:45:03AM EXPENSES THAT WAS REPORTED?
11:45:08AM >>SONYA LITTLE: THE EXPENSE FIGURES THAT I REPORTED EARLIER
11:45:13AM RELATE TO THE MONIES PAID TO THE VENDOR FOR THE SERVICE.
11:45:16AM IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE IN-HOUSE OFFICER.
11:45:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DOES NOT INCLUDE THE IN-HOUSE -- HOW MANY
11:45:21AM OFFICERS?
11:45:22AM WHAT STAFF?
11:45:24AM WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE FULL PICTURE HERE OF WHAT IT
11:45:30AM COSTS -- THE PART THAT THE CITY HAS TO COVER.
11:45:33AM THAT IS PART OF IT.
11:45:36AM WE HAVE STAFF THAT'S BEING USED OR EMPLOYED TO LOOK AT THIS
11:45:44AM WHEN YOU SAID THE HUMAN PART, BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE
11:45:49AM EXPENSE, AND IT IS DEFINITELY AN EXPENSE.
11:45:55AM >> WE COMPLETELY AGREE THERE IS AN EXPENSE.
11:45:57AM WE WOULD TELL EVERY ONE OF OUR CLIENTS THAT.
11:46:00AM TPD HAS WISELY DECIDED TO USE THEIR AIR AND MARINE UNIT TO
11:46:06AM RUN THAT PROGRAM.
11:46:07AM CLEARLY, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT UNIT HAS MORE DOWN TIME THAN
11:46:10AM SOME OF YOURS OTHER UNITS -- SOME OF YOUR OTHER UNITS.
11:46:14AM SO WHEN THEY ARE NOT ON A CALL, THEY ARE BEING EFFICIENT BY
11:46:18AM THIS PROGRAM.
11:46:19AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THEY MAY NOT BE ON A CALL, BUT THEY ARE
11:46:21AM BEING PAID.
11:46:22AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT EXPENSE IS.
11:46:25AM >> RIGHT.
11:46:25AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: LOOK, WHEN I LOOK AT ST. PETE, I LOOK AT
11:46:28AM PINELLAS COUNTY, I LOOK AT SARASOTA, THEY DID AWAY WITH
11:46:32AM THEM.
11:46:33AM >> SARASOTA HAS A PROGRAM.
11:46:34AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHEN WE ARE BEING REPORTED THAT THIS IS THE
11:46:37AM EXPENSE, IT IS NOT THE TOTAL EXPENSE.
11:46:40AM >> RIGHT.
11:46:40AM SARASOTA ACTUALLY HAS A CURRENT PROGRAM.
11:46:41AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE USE THAT MORE FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO BE
11:46:44AM AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
11:46:47AM WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE OTHER THING IS, THOSE
11:46:50AM INTERSECTIONS, WHAT MONIES DID WE SPEND TO IMPROVE THEM?
11:46:54AM $700,000 OR SOMETHING WAS THAT NUMBER?
11:46:57AM WHAT WAS THE PERCENT -- WE HELD THE VOTE BECAUSE WE WANTED
11:47:01AM TO SEE THAT MONEY BEING SPENT AT THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE
11:47:04AM SO DANGEROUS.
11:47:05AM WHEN THE MONEY WAS SPENT, HOW DID THAT IMPROVE -- WHAT
11:47:11AM INTERSECTION WAS THAT MONEY SPENT ON AND HOW DID IT IMPROVE
11:47:14AM THE INTERSECTIONS? WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.
11:47:17AM >>SONYA LITTLE: COUNCILWOMAN, IF I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME
11:47:21AM ADDITIONAL CLARITY, PLEASE.
11:47:22AM THE EXPENSE FIGURE I GAVE EARLIER DID NOT INCLUDE ANY
11:47:27AM IN-HOUSE TPD OFFICER HOURS, BECAUSE IN CONSULTATION, WHEN WE
11:47:33AM WERE DEVELOPING THESE NUMBERS FOR REPORTING PURPOSES, IN
11:47:36AM CONSULTATION WITH TPD, IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT THEY WERE
11:47:41AM REDEPLOYING OFFICERS THAT WERE ALREADY BEING PAID AT THAT
11:47:46AM TIME TO REVIEW THE FILM, AND I'LL DEFER TO TPD TO GIVE YOU
11:47:51AM FURTHER CLARIFICATION.
11:47:52AM BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, IF I COULD JUST HIT PART TWO OF YOUR
11:47:57AM QUESTION RELATED TO THE ACTUAL SAFETY PROGRAM.
11:48:00AM THE ACTUAL SAFETY PROGRAM, AND THIS WAS PROVIDED BY OUR
11:48:04AM TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WHERE THERE WERE SOME OF THOSE
11:48:09AM FUNDS IN THE PROGRAM WERE DEPLOYED TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE,
11:48:14AM CORRIDOR, SIGNAL TIMING AND PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE UPGRADES WAS
11:48:24AM ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
11:48:25AM AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER PENDING PROJECT AT ADAMO AND
11:48:30AM 50th STREET FOR OPERATIONAL AND SAFETY UPGRADES, FOR THAT
11:48:36AM INTERSECTION, WHERE THEY'LL HAVE ADVANCED TRAFFIC CONTROL
11:48:40AM EQUIPMENT, CCTV, AND WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY TO FACILITATE
11:48:48AM INTERSECTION SAFETY.
11:48:50AM WE DO HAVE SOME DESCRIPTIONS FROM OUR TRANSPORTATION
11:48:54AM DEPARTMENT THAT I GATHERED BEFORE COMING OVER AND WE CAN GET
11:48:57AM YOU MORE DETAIL.
11:48:58AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
11:49:05AM >> YES, HE WAS CORRECT.
11:49:06AM WE USE OUR MARINE UNIT AND OUR AIR SERVICE UNIT TO DO THAT.
11:49:09AM AND WE CONSIDER IT AS JUST LIKE ONE OF OUR OVERALL PUBLIC
11:49:14AM SAFETY DUTIES.
11:49:14AM WHETHER THEY WOULD BE DOING THAT OR AT AN INTERSECTION, SO
11:49:18AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS JUST -- JUST FULFILLS OUR NORMAL
11:49:21AM DAILY OPERATIONS IN REVIEWING THAT.
11:49:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I UNDERSTAND.
11:49:26AM BUT IT'S STILL AN EXPENSE.
11:49:27AM >> CORRECT.
11:49:31AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT
11:49:35AM INFORMATION TO REALLY MAKE A DETERMINATION.
11:49:37AM I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE RUNNING RED LIGHTS.
11:49:40AM AND MY COUNCIL MEMBER IS CORRECT.
11:49:42AM I'VE SEEN PEOPLE RUN RIGHT THROUGH RED LIGHTS.
11:49:45AM THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE HERE.
11:49:48AM BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE CAMERAS AT EVERY INTERSECTION,
11:49:52AM BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THEM WHERE THERE ARE NO CAMERAS.
11:49:55AM WHAT HE'S STATING IS, IT'S NOT DOABLE.
11:50:01AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REALLY REDUCE THE INCIDENTS
11:50:10AM THAT ARE HAPPENING.
11:50:11AM WE ARE STILL THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF FATALITIES IN THE
11:50:15AM COUNTRY, AND WE'VE HAD RED LIGHT CAMERAS, SO WHY?
11:50:22AM >> THE COUNTERARGUMENT WOULD BE AND ALWAYS A COUNTERARGUMENT
11:50:26AM FOR EVERYTHING, WHAT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE
11:50:28AM IT?
11:50:29AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: RIGHT, IT COULD BE WORSE.
11:50:32AM FIRST IN THE NATION FOR FATALITIES.
11:50:36AM >> IT'S AN UNKNOWN.
11:50:37AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M DONE.
11:50:38AM THANK YOU.
11:50:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE ELSE?
11:50:39AM LET ME JUST SAY THIS, WE HAVE -- I HAVE THREE WEEKS LEFT ON
11:50:46AM THIS COUNCIL.
11:50:47AM SIR, YOU CAN SIT DOWN.
11:50:53AM I DON'T NEED TO SAY NOTHING TO YOU.
11:50:56AM I'VE GOT THREE WEEKS LEFT HERE, AND I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW,
11:51:02AM NO ONE WANT TO SEE ANYONE CRASH THEIR AUTOMOBILES OR RUN A
11:51:10AM RED LIGHT CAMERA, BUT WHAT WE DON'T DISCUSS IS THE TRAFFIC
11:51:16AM PATTERN AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.
11:51:21AM THERE'S A LOT OF LOCATION WHERE YOU CAN'T EVEN MAKE A LEFT
11:51:24AM TURN, AND YOU'VE GOT TO SIT OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
11:51:27AM INTERSECTION AND WAIT TILL 200 CARS PASS AND THEN THE LIGHT
11:51:30AM IS TURNING YELLOW BEFORE YOU CAN GET BY, THAT LIGHT IS
11:51:35AM FLASHING RED.
11:51:38AM I KNOW, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME.
11:51:40AM SO HERE'S MY CHALLENGE.
11:51:47AM HERE'S MY CHALLENGE TO MY COLLEAGUES.
11:51:51AM IF YOU'RE SO GUNG HO ABOUT RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THEN I
11:51:56AM CHALLENGE YOU TO MEET ME AT AN INTERSECTION AT A DESIGNATED
11:52:04AM LOCATION AND TIME, AND YOU WON'T SEE PEOPLE RUNNING RED
11:52:10AM LIGHTS AS YOU CLAIM.
11:52:12AM YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN.
11:52:14AM AND YOU CAN COORDINATE THAT WITH MY AIDE, THE DATE, TIME,
11:52:20AM AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE LOCATION, BECAUSE WHAT ARE YOU
11:52:26AM SAYING -- ALL THE PEOPLE RUNNING RED LIGHTS IS RIDICULOUS.
11:52:30AM IT'S THE TRAFFIC PATTERN.
11:52:32AM THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE KEEP IGNORING.
11:52:35AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DRIVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
11:52:39AM PLACE IT WHERE THEY SHOULD HAVE, A LEFT TURN SIGNAL LIGHT
11:52:44AM NOT THERE.
11:52:45AM A PLACE WHERE THEY SHOULD HAVE WHERE YOU CAN TURN LEFT, YOU
11:52:49AM CAN'T DO IT.
11:52:50AM AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
11:52:51AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. VIERA, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE
11:52:55AM RESOLUTION 6 BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
11:52:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:53:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:53:04AM CHARLIE.
11:53:05AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:53:05AM DO YOU WANT TO MOVE RESOLUTION 6?
11:53:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THAT ITEM, 6 ON THE RED LIGHT
11:53:14AM CAMERAS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:53:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:53:17AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:53:18AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:53:20AM OPPOSED?
11:53:24AM >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO, REDDICK AND CAPIN VOTING NO.
11:53:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:53:29AM ALL RIGHT.
11:53:30AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 58.
11:53:32AM ITEM NUMBER 58.
11:54:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHO FROM STAFF IS
11:54:30AM REPRESENTING, BUT THAT IS THE ISSUE CREATING THE DIAPER
11:54:33AM CHANGING FACILITIES.
11:54:34AM THAT'S MR. VIERA'S --
11:54:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AIN'T NO ONE FROM STAFF HERE.
11:54:40AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 58?
11:54:45AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:54:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. -- WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE.
11:54:51AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:54:55AM 58?
11:54:55AM ALL RIGHT.
11:54:56AM SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:54:59AM >> WE DO AND A SECOND.
11:55:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:55:02AM THOSE OPPOSED.
11:55:02AM MR. VIERA.
11:55:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:55:07AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:55:10AM ADOPTION.
11:55:10AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING REVISIONS
11:55:13AM TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 20 (PUBLIC
11:55:16AM IMPROVEMENTS); AMENDING SECTION 20-1-DEFINITIONS; CREATING
11:55:22AM SECTION 20-9, DIAPER CHANGING FACILITIES; REPEALING ALL
11:55:25AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
11:55:28AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:55:30AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. VIERA.
11:55:31AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:55:33AM ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:55:34AM VOICE ROLL CALL.
11:55:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:55:41AM >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:55:42AM >> MANISCALCO?
11:55:44AM REDDICK?
11:55:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:55:46AM >> CAPIN?
11:55:47AM MIRANDA?
11:55:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:55:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:55:49AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND CAPIN BEING
11:55:52AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:55:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:55:55AM ITEM NUMBER 59.
11:56:06AM >> RON VILA WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
11:56:08AM HERE FOR THE TAX AD VALOREM EXEMPTION FOR THE ADDRESS OF
11:56:12AM 1902 NORTH AVENIDA REPUBLICA DE CUBA.
11:56:14AM THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION AND
11:56:17AM RECEIVED APPROVAL.
11:56:18AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:56:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY GRESS COUNCIL?
11:56:21AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59?
11:56:31AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:56:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:56:33AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:56:34AM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
11:56:36AM OPPOSED?
11:56:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM 59, FILE NUMBER 2019-8, CHAPTER
11:56:41AM 27.
11:56:42AM MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:56:44AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION
11:56:47AM PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE
11:56:49AM RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN
11:56:52AM PROPERTY OWNED BY YBOR TROPICAL, LLC LOCATED AT 1902 NORTH
11:56:58AM AVENIDA REPUBLICA DE CUBA, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE YBOR CITY
11:57:02AM NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT BASED UPON CERTAIN
11:57:04AM FINDINGS; PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
11:57:08AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING
11:57:10AM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN
11:57:13AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:57:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:57:16AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:57:17AM ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:57:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:57:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: YES.
11:57:21AM >> MANISCALCO?
11:57:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:57:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:57:24AM >> CAPIN?
11:57:26AM MIRANDA?
11:57:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:57:28AM >> VIERA?
11:57:29AM MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:57:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 60, IF ANYONE PLANS ON SPEAKING
11:57:38AM ON ITEM 60, 61 AND 62, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
11:57:46AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:57:52AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 60.
11:57:53AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:57:55AM COORDINATION.
11:57:56AM THIS ITEM, THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO MOVE THE SECOND READING
11:57:59AM TO 4/18.
11:58:01AM THIS IS A COMPANION ITEM WITH ITEM NUMBER 40.
11:58:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: APRIL 18?
11:58:07AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.
11:58:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:58:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED TO BRING IT BACK ON APRIL THE
11:58:17AM 18th, ITEM NUMBER 60, OF THE YEAR -- WHAT YEAR ARE WE IN?
11:58:23AM '19.
11:58:24AM AT THE SAME TIME, 9:30 A.M.
11:58:26AM THAT'S THE TIME WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT FOR.
11:58:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THIS TO
11:58:34AM APRIL 18 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:58:39AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:58:40AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:58:41AM OPPOSED?
11:58:43AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:58:47AM [INAUDIBLE]
11:58:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 61.
11:58:51AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:58:52AM COORDINATION.
11:58:53AM THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE VACATING OF THE
11:58:56AM RIGHT-OF-WAY IN VILA BROTHERS PARK.
11:58:58AM THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT.
11:58:59AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
11:59:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
11:59:04AM ITEM 61.
11:59:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:59:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:59:06AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:59:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:59:09AM OPPOSED?
11:59:09AM MR. MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU --
11:59:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR
11:59:14AM ITEM 61, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:59:17AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
11:59:19AM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF
11:59:22AM LEMON STREET, NORTH OF CARMEN STREET, EAST OF TAMPANIA
11:59:25AM AVENUE AND WEST OF ARMENIA AVENUE IN REVISED MAP OF WEST
11:59:28AM PINES, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
11:59:30AM COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
11:59:34AM SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS,
11:59:39AM COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY
11:59:41AM SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:59:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED
11:59:46AM BY MR. SUAREZ.
11:59:48AM ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:59:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
11:59:52AM >> COHEN?
11:59:53AM MANISCALCO.
11:59:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:59:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:59:56AM >> CAPIN?
11:59:57AM MIRANDA?
11:59:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:59:59AM >> VIERA?
12:00:00PM MOTION CARRIED WITH COHEN AND CAPIN AND VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE
12:00:06PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:00:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 62.
12:00:08PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
12:00:09PM COORDINATION.
12:00:10PM THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST BY THE CITY TO VACATE
12:00:13PM RIGHT-OF-WAYS IN FOREST HILLS PARK.
12:00:15PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:00:20PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:00:22PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 62.
12:00:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:00:26PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:00:27PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:00:30PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:00:31PM MR. SUAREZ.
12:00:33PM READ ITEM NUMBER 62.
12:00:35PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:00:36PM PRESENT ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
12:00:39PM ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A
12:00:41PM PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN AS SENECA AVENUE LYING
12:00:44PM SOUTH OF 109th AVENUE, NORTH OF BOUGAINVILLEA, EAST OF
12:00:48PM OTIS AVENUE AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
12:00:51PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
12:00:53PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT
12:00:56PM RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS MORE
12:01:00PM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:01:04PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
12:01:08PM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:01:08PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
12:01:10PM ROLL-CALL VOTE.
12:01:12PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.
12:01:14PM >> COHEN?
12:01:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:01:18PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
12:01:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:01:22PM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:01:23PM MOTION CARRIED WITH COHEN, CAPIN AND VIERA BEING ABSENT.
12:01:28PM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S 12:00.
12:01:29PM WE NEED A FEW MORE --
12:01:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 30 MINUTES.
12:01:32PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION TO EXTEND 30 MINUTES.
12:01:35PM MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:01:38PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
12:01:40PM OPPOSED?
12:01:40PM ITEM NUMBER 64.
12:01:42PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE.
12:01:44PM DO NEED TO SWEAR IN FOLKS FOR 63 THROUGH 65.
12:01:53PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 63, 64, 65,
12:01:58PM PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
12:01:59PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
12:02:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 63.
12:02:09PM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: I'M HERE FOR A BRICK -- WEST CENTRAL
12:02:17PM AVENUE.
12:02:18PM THIS IS RIGHT BEHIND THE FALK THEATER.
12:02:24PM NEEDED TO VACATE BRICK TO PUT IN A NEW TECO POLE AND THEY
12:02:27PM HAD TO PUT IN AN ISLAND TO PROTECT IT.
12:02:29PM IT IS THIS LITTLE STRIPED AREA RIGHT HERE.
12:02:31PM IT'S THIS LITTLE AREA RIGHT HERE ALREADY STRIPED OUT.
12:02:41PM IT WASN'T USED FOR PARKING OR ANYTHING.
12:02:43PM AND THERE'S NOW GOING TO HAVE JUST A LITTLE ISLAND IN THERE,
12:02:48PM WHERE THE ACTUAL TECO POLE IS.
12:02:51PM IT IS A VERY, VERY SMALL AREA THAT HAD -- JUST REMOVE THE
12:02:55PM BRICK.
12:02:59PM YOU MIGHT REMEMBER DID I COME HERE ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO DUE
12:03:02PM TO D.O.T. REDOING THE PED RAMPS ON JACKSON AND KENNEDY.
12:03:07PM THIS IS JUST A TECO POLE RELOCATION AND THEY JUST NEEDED TO
12:03:11PM MOVE IT OUT OF THE SIDEWALK.
12:03:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE BRICKS SAVED BY THE CITY?
12:03:16PM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: AND YES, AND COME BACK TO THE CITY
12:03:18PM BECAUSE THEY ARE CITY PROPERTY.
12:03:21PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:03:24PM PETITIONER?
12:03:26PM OH.
12:03:30PM OKAY.
12:03:31PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 63?
12:03:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:03:35PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:03:36PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:03:38PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:03:40PM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY MIRANDA TO
12:03:45PM MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:03:46PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:03:48PM OPPOSED?
12:03:48PM ALL RIGHT.
12:03:50PM 64.
12:03:54PM >>KRISTIN MORA: KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:03:56PM COUNCIL, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A THIRD TIME TO RESET A
12:04:01PM PUBLIC HEARING.
12:04:02PM AS YOU'LL RECALL, LAST YEAR WE MADE A CHANGE TO SECTION
12:04:05PM 27-61 OF THE ZONING CODE TO DEALING WITH SITUATIONS WHERE
12:04:09PM PEOPLE CONTINUOUSLY ASK FOR CONTINUANCES OR FAIL TO NOTICE
12:04:14PM PROPERLY.
12:04:14PM I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
12:04:15PM IF TWO OR MORE OCCASIONS THAT THE ITEM IS PROPERLY SET
12:04:18PM BEFORE YOU, PETITIONER EITHER FAILS TO APPEAR, REQUEST A
12:04:22PM CONTINUANCE OR FAILS TO PERFECT PUBLIC NOTICE, THEN YOU HAVE
12:04:27PM THE ABILITY TO DEEM IT WITHDRAWN.
12:04:28PM IT IS NOT AUTOMATIC.
12:04:29PM IT IS SOMETHING YOU MAY DO.
12:04:32PM AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE
12:04:34PM THIRD OCCASION THAT THIS APPLICANT WILL NOT BE GOING
12:04:37PM FORWARD.
12:04:41PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE APPLICANT, YOU WANT TO GIVE US A
12:04:43PM JUSTIFICATION WHY YOU NEED TO --
12:04:45PM >> YES, GOOD EVENING -- GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN.
12:04:47PM TODD SCIME, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
12:04:53PM THIS IS MS. ALONZO.
12:04:55PM HER COUSIN IS LUIS, WHO HAD A HEART ATTACK AND HE'S BEEN
12:04:59PM DOWN TWO MONTHS AND JUST GOT OUT.
12:05:01PM HE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE.
12:05:02PM WE'RE ASKING THIS ONE TIME TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE.
12:05:04PM WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME BEFORE YOU THE NEXT
12:05:08PM AVAILABLE DATE.
12:05:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THIS IS YOUR THIRD TIME.
12:05:10PM >> YES, SIR.
12:05:12PM >>FRANK REDDICK: FOURTH TIME?
12:05:13PM ALL RIGHT.
12:05:15PM NORMALLY, OUR POLICY AND STANDING PROCEDURE, WE DON'T GRANT
12:05:19PM THIS.
12:05:20PM BUT BASED ON THAT --
12:05:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE.
12:05:23PM MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL DUE RESPECT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL MOVE
12:05:27PM FOR A REHEARING CONTINUATION OF THIS PETITION TODAY FROM --
12:05:32PM WHAT'S THE NEXT POSSIBLE DATE?
12:05:34PM JULY 18th.
12:05:38PM IF YOU DON'T MAKE THAT ONE, BYE-BYE LOLA.
12:05:41PM >> THANK YOU.
12:05:42PM THANK YOU, CHARLIE.
12:05:44PM GOD BLESS YOU.
12:05:44PM >> THANK YOU.
12:05:45PM GOD BLESS YOU.
12:05:45PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:05:48PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:05:49PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:05:50PM OPPOSED?
12:05:52PM ITEM NUMBER 65.
12:06:01PM >>KRISTIN MORA: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
12:06:02PM CRIST AN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:06:04PM THIS ITEM IS AN -- IS A PETITION OF REVIEW OF A DECISION OF
12:06:10PM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
12:06:11PM WE HAVE SOME STAFF REPORTS BEING HANDED OUT AS WELL AS
12:06:17PM ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT I WILL HAND OUT TO YOU.
12:06:26PM THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BY THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD IN DECEMBER
12:06:32PM OF LAST YEAR, AND THEY PARTIALLY APPROVED THE REQUEST AND
12:06:34PM THEY PARTIALLY DENIED THE REQUEST.
12:06:37PM THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE PARTS OF THE REQUEST THAT
12:06:41PM WERE DENIED.
12:06:43PM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DID HEAR TESTIMONY FROM SEVERAL
12:06:47PM PEOPLE AT THE HEARING, AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS A
12:06:51PM HARDSHIP WITH RESPECT TO THE PART THEY APPROVED, WITH
12:06:54PM RESPECT TO ONE OF THE SHEDS THAT WAS PREEXISTING.
12:06:56PM THEY FOUND IT WAS NOT A HARDSHIP FOR THE ADDITIONAL SHEDS
12:06:59PM THAT WERE ADDED.
12:07:00PM AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW.
12:07:02PM WE DO ALSO HAVE A TRANSLATOR HERE TODAY ON THIS CASE.
12:07:06PM I WILL JUMP UP PERIODICALLY AND HANDLE THAT AS WELL.
12:07:10PM AND TO GET US KICKED OFF, MS. ANTHONY FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT
12:07:16PM IS HERE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE FACTS AND BACKGROUND OF
12:07:19PM THIS CASE.
12:07:29PM >> TOWANDA ANTHONY, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
12:07:31PM AGAIN, THIS IS AN APPEAL HEARING FOR VRB-19-02.
12:07:37PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1509 WEST POWHATAN AVENUE.
12:07:43PM THE HEARING DATE FOR THE VARIANCE WAS DECEMBER 11, 2018.
12:07:45PM PER SECTION 27-156, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REDUCE THE
12:07:51PM SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 7 FEET TO 3.5 FEET AND A REAR YARD
12:07:55PM SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 10 FEET.
12:07:58PM IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING RELIEF FROM
12:08:02PM SECTION 27-285 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED GREENSPACE FROM
12:08:08PM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET.
12:08:10PM THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDER VIOLATION FOR ILLEGAL
12:08:19PM ADDITIONS IN CONCRETE.
12:08:20PM I'LL ORIENT YOU WITH THE SITE.
12:08:22PM HERE'S AN AERIAL, WEST POWHATAN AND NORTH ROME.
12:08:32PM AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:08:34PM HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE SITE FACING POWHATAN.
12:08:44PM HERE'S A PHOTO SHOWING THE ADDITION ON THE SIDE YARD.
12:08:51PM HERE'S A PHOTO SHOWING THE ADDITION IN THE REAR.
12:08:55PM HERE'S THE SURVEY OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SITE.
12:09:08PM THE AREA HATCHED IS THE REAR ADDITION, AND HERE IS THE SIDE
12:09:13PM YARD ADDITION.
12:09:14PM AND THERE'S ALSO QUITE THE GROUND COVER, AND YOU CAN SEE
12:09:19PM WHERE IT SAYS CONCRETE, WHERE THEY ADDED THE ILLEGAL
12:09:22PM CONCRETE.
12:09:22PM STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND NATURAL RESOURCES
12:09:26PM IS ALSO HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:09:29PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:09:30PM THE APPLICANT?
12:09:44PM >>KRISTIN MORA: KRISTIN MORA AGAIN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:09:48PM AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP THE APPLICANT AND THEIR
12:09:51PM INTERPRETER TO COME UP.
12:09:52PM MA'AM, IF I COULD ASK YOU AS THE INTERPRETER TO STATE YOUR
12:10:07PM NAME FOR THE RECORD AND VERIFY THAT YOU'LL BE PROVIDING A
12:10:10PM TRUE TRANSLATION FOR THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY.
12:10:13PM >> MY NAME IS MELODY DUALLY, I WILL BE THE SPANISH AND
12:10:16PM ENGLISH INTERPRETER PROVIDING A TRUE AND HONEST
12:10:19PM INTERPRETATION OF THINGS THAT ARE SAID IN ENGLISH TO SPANISH
12:10:21PM AND THINGS THAT ARE SAID IN SPANISH TO ENGLISH.
12:10:24PM >>KRISTIN MORA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:10:26PM IF I COULD ASK THAT THE APPLICANTS BE SWORN IN IN SPANISH,
12:10:33PM IF I COULD TROUBLE TO YOU ADMINISTER THE OATH AND THEN HAVE
12:10:37PM IT TRANSLATED.
12:10:37PM [OATH ADMINISTERED IN ENGLISH]
12:10:48PM >> YES, I DO.
12:10:49PM [OATH ADMINISTERED IN ENGLISH]
12:10:55PM [OATH INTERPRETED INTO SPANISH]
12:10:59PM >> YES.
12:11:11PM >> MY NAME IS FIDELINA PEREZ.
12:11:13PM [SPEAKING IN SPANISH]
12:12:07PM >> INTERPRETER: I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHY AND WHERE WE PUT THE
12:12:10PM CONCRETE.
12:12:11PM DO YOU NEED IT TO BE TURNED?
12:12:13PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:12:24PM >> INTERPRETER: WE PUT THIS CONCRETE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE
12:12:27PM OF OUR HOME.
12:12:27PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:12:30PM >> INTERPRETER: THE REASON WE PUT THE CONCRETE THERE IS
12:12:47PM BECAUSE WHENEVER IT RAINED, THE WATER THAT WAS COMING IN OFF
12:12:50PM OF THE STREET WITHOUT THE CONCRETE, THE WATER WAS COMING
12:12:54PM INTO OUR HOME BECAUSE OUR HOME IS LOWER LEVEL THAN WHAT IT
12:12:58PM SHOULD BE AND SO WE PUT THE CONCRETE THERE TO AVOID HAVING
12:13:02PM THE WATER COME INTO OUR HOME.
12:13:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COMING INTO THE HOME OR COMING INTO THE
12:13:06PM YARD?
12:13:13PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:13:17PM >> INTERPRETER: NO, IT CAME INTO THE YARD.
12:13:20PM IT CAME INTO OUR HOME.
12:13:21PM AND IT ALSO WENT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOME AND FLOODED
12:13:24PM THE BACKYARD.
12:13:25PM HERE IS THE DRIVEWAY OF OUR HOME, AND UP HERE WHERE IT SAYS
12:13:38PM CONCRETE IS WHERE WE PUT THE CONCRETE.
12:13:40PM OKAY.
12:13:53PM SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THE CONCRETE IS, WHERE THE WATER
12:13:57PM ACCUMULATED RIGHT HERE, OKAY, IN THIS BIG AREA IN FRONT OF
12:14:02PM WHERE IT SAYS CONCRETE AND ALSO ON THE STREET OUT IN FRONT
12:14:08PM OF THE --
12:14:13PM >> MAY HE SAY SOMETHING?
12:14:17PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:14:29PM >> INTERPRETER: THE REASON WHY WE DID THIS THE WAY THAT WE
12:14:32PM DID IT IS BECAUSE MY WIFE DID GO TO A CITY COUNCIL PERSON OR
12:14:37PM A PERSON FROM THE CITY EXPLAINING HER FEAR OF WHAT WAS GOING
12:14:43PM TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IF THIS WAS NOT TAKEN CARE OF.
12:14:49PM THEY WERE TOLD, THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY, YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT
12:14:52PM TO DO.
12:14:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:14:56PM [INAUDIBLE] MY OFFICE JUST LAST WEEK RECEIVED THREE OR FOUR
12:15:02PM COMPLAINTS, NOT HERE BUT ON ANOTHER STREET THAT RUNS INTO
12:15:06PM DALE MABRY AND JUST SOUTH OF CYPRESS, THAT THEY HAD PAVERS
12:15:11PM AND THEY MADE THEM REMOVE THE PAVERS BECAUSE THE PAVERS WERE
12:15:15PM PUT IN NOT JUST FOR SAND, BUT CONCRETE, WE HAVE ANOTHER
12:15:18PM PROBLEM THAT IS FACING THOSE NEIGHBORS.
12:15:21PM I'M TELLING YOU NOW WHAT I'VE SEEN AND EXPRESSED JUST LAST
12:15:25PM WEEK, ALTHOUGH NOT THIS CASE, I GUESS THE FENCE I WAS
12:15:27PM LOOKING AT ME BECAUSE LOOKED AT ME LIKE TWO REFLECTIONS --
12:15:32PM BECAUSE BY THIS PHOTO, THERE IS A CONCRETE TO THE SOUTH AND
12:15:36PM ONE TO THE NORTH.
12:15:38PM AM I CORRECT?
12:15:43PM >> INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:16:33PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:16:55PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:17:29PM >> INTERPRETER: RIGHT HERE IS THE DRIVEWAY.
12:17:31PM THIS IS FROM THE STREET RIGHT UP HERE.
12:17:35PM THIS IS FROM THE STREET.
12:17:37PM THAT'S POWHATAN.
12:17:38PM AND THAT IS WHERE THE WATER IS ACCUMULATING.
12:17:41PM AND THE WATER IS COMING IN FROM THE STREET.
12:17:52PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:18:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE METAL FRAME I SEE AT THE TOP
12:18:12PM OF THE RIGHT PART?
12:18:13PM THAT'S METAL THERE, WHAT IS THAT?
12:18:17PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:18:21PM >> INTERPRETER: THAT'S WHERE THE MAILBOX IS.
12:18:23PM WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, THIS IS THE WATER ON THE STREET.
12:18:26PM JUST ONE MORE INCH, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S ALMOST LIKE
12:18:30PM LEVEL WITH THE DRIVEWAY.
12:18:32PM ONE MORE INCH AND IT WILL COME OVER THE DRIVEWAY.
12:18:38PM IF I WERE TO EXPAND THE DRIVEWAY OR MAKE THE DRIVEWAY
12:18:54PM LONGER, THEN THE WATER WOULD COME UP ONTO THE DRIVEWAY.
12:18:59PM SO THAT DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY STOPPING THE WATER FROM COMING.
12:19:06PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:19:11PM HERE IS THE METAL STRUCTURE.
12:19:21PM THIS IS WHAT I WAS SHOWING YOU WAS THE DRIVEWAY.
12:19:23PM NOW I'M SHOWING YOU THE METAL STRUCTURE.
12:19:26PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:19:29PM IF YOU STAND IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THIS METAL STRUCTURE IS
12:19:32PM ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
12:19:33PM MY HUSBAND TOOK THAT DOWN COMPLETELY.
12:19:43PM MY HUSBAND DID APPLY TO THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE
12:20:07PM DID HERE, WHICH WAS TO TAKE DOWN WHAT YOU SAW ORIGINALLY,
12:20:10PM THE METAL STRUCTURE, AND THIS IS RIGHT HERE IS AN EXTENSION
12:20:16PM OF THE HOUSE.
12:20:17PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:20:31PM WHAT SHE'S SAYING, THEY TOOK ALL THIS ON THE FRONT PART,
12:20:34PM TOOK IT ALL DOWN AND PUT THIS UP.
12:20:47PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
12:20:48PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:21:00PM >> INTERPRETER: THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS THE METAL STRUCTURE
12:21:03PM THAT WAS THERE WAS NOT SUPPORTED IN ANY WAY TO THE HOUSE.
12:21:07PM IT WAS JUST THE METAL FRAME, IF YOU WILL, HOLDING UP THE
12:21:13PM METAL, AND IT WAS JUST LIKE OPEN AIR.
12:21:16PM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:21:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK A QUESTION?
12:21:45PM WE JUMPED NOW FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO THE BACK OF THE
12:21:49PM HOUSE.
12:21:50PM >> INTERPRETER: THAT'S WHAT I JUST ASKED HER.
12:21:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY NOW.
12:21:54PM WHAT I SEE IS THE BACK OF THE HOUSE ALL CONCRETE?
12:22:01PM >> INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:22:05PM YES, IT IS.
12:22:05PM LIKE A CONTINUATION OF THE PROPERTY, IT IS BEHIND THE HOUSE.
12:22:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MUCH CONCRETE IS THERE IN THE BACK?
12:22:14PM >> INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:22:20PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:22:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE WE SAYING THAT THE WHOLE BACKYARD
12:22:24PM FROM THE ROOFLINE TO ROOFLINE?
12:22:37PM >> INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:22:43PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:22:57PM >> INTERPRETER: THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, THE METAL STRUCTURE IN
12:23:05PM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE I DID, UNDERNEATH THAT IS ALL
12:23:09PM CONCRETE.
12:23:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID IT FOR FAMILY
12:23:11PM THINGS.
12:23:12PM I UNDERSTAND.
12:23:12PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF CONCRETE
12:23:18PM AND THAT AMOUNT OF AREA COVERED, THE WATER HAS GOT TO GO
12:23:22PM SOMEWHERE.
12:23:33PM >> INTERPRETER: WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF DIRT SECTION IN
12:23:36PM OUR BACKYARD.
12:23:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S A PROBLEM.
12:23:39PM YOU HAVE NO GRASS.
12:23:41PM YOU HAVE NOTHING FOR WATER SATURATION.
12:23:43PM IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
12:23:49PM YOU CANNOT CONCRETE SIDE TO SIDE.
12:23:53PM >> INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:23:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:24:22PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:24:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SPEAK IN ENGLISH SO THE OTHER COUNCIL
12:24:35PM MEMBERS UNDERSTAND.
12:24:36PM I DON'T WANT IN ANY WAY --
12:24:44PM >> INTERPRETER: TELL ME WHERE YOU WANT ME TO REWIND TO.
12:24:50PM >> AND I ANSWERED HIM IN SPANISH BECAUSE I KNOW HE SPEAKS
12:24:53PM SPANISH IS WHAT SHE JUST SAID.
12:25:00PM AT THE END OF THE STRUCTURE, WE HAVE GUTTERS --
12:25:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SIMPLE.
12:25:09PM WHERE DOES IT DRAIN TO?
12:25:12PM >> INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:25:25PM THE WATER IS DIRECTED TO THE AREA IN OUR BACKYARD WHERE
12:25:29PM THERE IS DIRT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CONCRETE, THERE IS
12:25:34PM DIRT IN OUR BACKYARD.
12:25:36PM THAT WATER DOES NOT GO TO ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
12:25:42PM IT STAYS RIGHT THERE ON OUR PROPERTY.
12:25:44PM AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
12:25:58PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM
12:26:01PM NUMBER 65?
12:26:02PM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:26:05PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 65?
12:26:29PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
12:26:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ASK FOR ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES.
12:26:36PM >> SECOND.
12:26:37PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:26:39PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO, ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES.
12:26:42PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:26:44PM OPPOSED?
12:26:44PM OKAY.
12:26:44PM YES, SIR.
12:26:46PM >> THANK YOU.
12:26:47PM MY NAME IS HENRY CRAMER.
12:26:49PM I LIVE ON ROME AVENUE, NOT FAR FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:26:53PM I GREW UP HERE IN TAMPA.
12:26:55PM I'VE LIVED IN MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND AND IN TAMPA,
12:26:58PM HYDE PARK, TOWN N' COUNTRY, WEST TAMPA.
12:27:00PM WE'VE SEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH QUESTIONABLE
12:27:05PM DECISION MAKING THAT'S BEEN MADE IN A VARIETY OF PLACES.
12:27:09PM I'M HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT RIVER BEND CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS
12:27:13PM A MEMBER AND A MEMBER OF THE BOARD AS WELL AS A HOMEOWNER
12:27:19PM THERE.
12:27:20PM WE'VE GOT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT'S TAKEN
12:27:24PM PLACE HERE SO WE CAN ELIMINATE PROBLEMS THAT COULD OCCUR
12:27:27PM LATER ON.
12:27:29PM ELECTIONS IN THIS CITY HAS BROUGHT MUCH DEBATE AND MUCH
12:27:32PM DISCUSSION OVER HOW THE CITY IS MANAGED AND GOVERNED.
12:27:38PM WE'RE VERY CONCERNED.
12:27:39PM WE HAVE OTHER FOLKS HERE THAT WILL SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY
12:27:41PM TO THE ISSUE.
12:27:42PM IN ANY CITY DISCUSSION, THERE'S DISCUSSIONS THAT TAKE PLACE,
12:27:48PM GOT TO KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF THE CITIES AND HOW THEY GET
12:27:51PM TO DO THINGS AND WHO UNDERSTANDS THE SYSTEM.
12:27:53PM EVEN IN TAMPA BAY TIMES WAS CITED EARLIER, IS THE CITY RUN
12:28:00PM BY A CLIQUE?
12:28:01PM THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I SAW IN THE PAPER.
12:28:04PM WE DON'T KNOW THAT BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT.
12:28:06PM WE'RE NOT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND WE'RE NOT TAMPA HEIGHTS, BUT
12:28:09PM YET WE'VE HAD A POND BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SERVICE
12:28:13PM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:28:15PM THAT'S, AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS
12:28:17PM TODAY, BUT IT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE QUESTIONING
12:28:21PM HOW THIS PROCESS TAKES PLACE.
12:28:23PM BY THE WAY, THE NOTIFICATION LETTER THAT WE GOT FROM THE
12:28:31PM FOLKS SPEAKS TO DIFFERENT SETBACK STANDARDS, DOWN TO ZERO
12:28:34PM FOOT, IF I MAY, REDUCE THE SIDE YARD FROM 7-FOOT TO 0-FOOT
12:28:39PM AND THE REAR YARD FROM 20-FOOT TO 10-FOOT.
12:28:43PM REDUCE THE REAR YARD FROM 3-FOOT TO 0 ON THE SIDE.
12:28:46PM SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:28:49PM THE QUESTION OF HOW YOU GATHER, HOW YOU ACCUMULATE
12:28:52PM INFORMATION AND THEN HOW YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, VERY
12:28:54PM DIFFICULT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:28:56PM BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:29:00PM WE'RE NOT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, BUT WE ARE RIVER BEND AND WE DO
12:29:03PM HAVE THE RIVER BEND GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE
12:29:06PM WANT TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES, THE ASSOCIATION, AND THE
12:29:10PM FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:29:12PM AND SO I'M HERE TO OBSERVE THESE FOLKS WILL SPEAK MORE
12:29:16PM SPECIFICALLY TO THE ISSUE OF THIS PROPERTY AT 1509.
12:29:19PM I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY.
12:29:29PM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:29:31PM FRANK GRECO.
12:29:31PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
12:29:32PM I AM A RESIDENT OF THE RIVER BEND NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO ONE
12:29:35PM OF THE VICE PRESIDENTS OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
12:29:38PM AND WE WERE BEFORE THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND AT THAT
12:29:42PM TIME, I WILL SHOW YOU FROM CITY RECORD THAT IT WAS THE
12:29:50PM TESTIMONY FROM THE OWNER WAS THAT THEY HAD PURCHASED THE
12:29:53PM PROPERTY WITH THE ENCROACHMENTS.
12:29:59PM AND I CAN SHOW YOU FROM THE TAX RECORD THAT THEY PURCHASED
12:30:03PM THE PROPERTY IN 2009.
12:30:05PM FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE AN INCLUSIVE
12:30:08PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DO WELCOME ALL RESIDENTS.
12:30:11PM HOWEVER, WE DO -- WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO FOLLOW THE CODES
12:30:16PM AND THE ORDINANCES AND THE LAWS OF THE CITY.
12:30:18PM THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2009, AND THEY HAD TESTIFIED
12:30:25PM THAT THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITH THE VIOLATIONS.
12:30:28PM THIS IS THE RECORD, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2015, THERE WAS A
12:30:32PM COMPLAINT THAT WAS LODGED, AND THAT COMPLAINT WAS TO WORK
12:30:35PM WITHOUT PERMITS.
12:30:37PM AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTOR DID COME OUT AND IT WAS
12:30:42PM NOTED THAT IT WAS WORK WITHOUT PERMITS, AND THERE WAS AN
12:30:45PM ILLEGAL ADDITION TO THE STRUCTURE, THAT WAS TO THE HOME
12:30:50PM ITSELF.
12:30:50PM THE INSPECTOR CLOSED IT OUT SAYING THAT IT WAS MARKED AS NO
12:30:56PM VIOLATION OBSERVED.
12:30:57PM NOW, I WILL SHOW YOU THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THIS IS WHAT
12:31:01PM THE 2012 FOOTPRINT LOOKED LIKE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE
12:31:08PM 2015 FOOTPRINT WHICH SHOWS THE ACTUAL HOME WAS DOUBLED IN
12:31:12PM SIZE.
12:31:13PM THIS IS WHAT THE INSPECTOR MISSED.
12:31:15PM HE MISSED THAT THAT HOME HAD AN ADDITION WHICH EQUALED THE
12:31:18PM ORIGINAL STRUCTURE ITSELF.
12:31:19PM AND HE CLOSED OUT THE PROJECT.
12:31:27PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THOSE PICTURES WERE FROM GOOGLE EARTH, OKAY.
12:31:31PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF THEY WERE FROM
12:31:34PM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OR ANYONE ELSE.
12:31:35PM >> NO.
12:31:35PM THESE ARE FROM GOOGLE EARTH.
12:31:37PM I WENT BACK INTO HISTORY AND GOT THIS.
12:31:38PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
12:31:40PM >> AND THEN AGAIN IN 2018, THERE WAS ANOTHER OPENING.
12:31:44PM I WILL READ YOU THIS BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO WHAT
12:31:49PM WE'RE DISCUSSING.
12:31:51PM CONSISTENT CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONS IN THE BACKYARD OF
12:31:53PM PROPERTY AND CONCRETE BEING POURED IN THE FRONT NO PERMITS
12:31:56PM PULLED FOR ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN
12:31:59PM THE BACKYARD MAY NOT MEET MINIMUM SETBACKS FROM THE PROPERTY
12:32:03PM LINE, AND RECENT ADDITIONS IN THE BACK IS CREATING A PROBLEM
12:32:07PM AS WATER IS RUNNING OFF THE ROOF INTO NEIGHBORING YARD AT
12:32:12PM 1505 WEST POWHATAN.
12:32:15PM THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE IS AFRAID THAT SHE WILL BE GETTING
12:32:19PM FLOODED OUT BECAUSE OF THE RUNOFF.
12:32:21PM THAT'S THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR.
12:32:24PM IT DOES SLOPE DOWNHILL.
12:32:26PM THIS IS THE 2018 FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPERTY.
12:32:29PM AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING IS COVERED UP EXCEPT FOR A SMALL
12:32:32PM PORTION IN THE FRONT.
12:32:33PM THERE'S 2015, AND THEN THIS IS 2012.
12:32:37PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ALL THOSE.
12:32:39PM CAN'T SEE 2012, WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT ONE.
12:32:46PM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
12:32:47PM I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING TO STATE.
12:32:49PM AND THAT IS THAT THIS IS THE DOUBLING OUT OF THE ASSESSMENT
12:32:55PM RECORDS OF THE PROPERTY.
12:32:57PM AND WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT YOU DENY THIS BECAUSE WE'RE
12:33:01PM TRYING TO DEVELOP THESE NEIGHBORHOODS INTO VIABLE
12:33:07PM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO WHEN THE CODES
12:33:09PM AREN'T FOLLOWED.
12:33:10PM AS YOU CAN SEE, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM
12:33:14PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE CODE ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T
12:33:16PM CATCH IT ON THE FIRST VISIT.
12:33:20PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE THANK YOU.
12:33:21PM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
12:33:27PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:33:28PM MY NAME IS DEBRA LAKENT.
12:33:31PM I ALSO LIVE IN RIVER BEND AND I WAS SWORN IN.
12:33:34PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VARIANCE REVIEW THAT WE ALL RECEIVED HAS
12:33:36PM A LOT OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS ON IT.
12:33:38PM TODAY I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE BEFORE YOU.
12:33:42PM WHAT I ASK, IF THIS WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU REPRESENT
12:33:46PM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR YOUR NEIGHBOR, WOULD YOU WANT THE
12:33:48PM FOLLOWING VARIANCES APPROVED?
12:33:50PM REDUCE THE SIDE YARD FROM 7 TO 0.
12:33:53PM REDUCE THE REAR BUILDING FROM 3-FOOT TO 0.
12:33:56PM THE MAIN HOUSE FROM 20 TO 10.
12:33:59PM THE SIDE YARD FROM 3-FOOT TO 0.
12:34:02PM BUILDING SEPARATION FROM 5-FOOT TO 0.
12:34:07PM REDUCE THE REQUIRED GREENSPACE FROM 25 -- OUR REPORT SAYS
12:34:12PM 20.
12:34:12PM MOST OF THE HOUSES -- MOST OF THE HOUSE IS SURROUNDED BY
12:34:16PM CEMENT WHICH MEANS ZERO SEPARATION AROUND THE ENTIRE HOUSE.
12:34:21PM THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE
12:34:23PM ALREADY BUILT BY THEM WITHOUT PERMIT, WITHOUT INSPECTION AND
12:34:26PM DOES NOT MEET ANY CODE OR REQUIREMENTS.
12:34:27PM THEY FAILED TO FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES WHEN MOVING
12:34:30PM FORWARD IN THE ADDITIONS OF THESE STRUCTURES.
12:34:32PM THEY FAILED TO SUBMIT BLUEPRINTS FOR APPROVAL, PAY THE FEES
12:34:35PM FOR THE PERMITS, POST THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT, HAVE
12:34:39PM INSPECTORS REVIEW THE PROCESS OF THE CONSTRUCTION, MAKE SURE
12:34:41PM THE CODE APPROVAL AND FINAL APPROVAL GETS STAMPED FROM THE
12:34:45PM INSPECTOR.
12:34:46PM THIS COULD OPEN PANDORA'S BOX FOR EVERYONE WHO BUILDS A
12:34:49PM STRUCTURE AND THEN ASKS FOR FORGIVENESS.
12:34:53PM THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED.
12:34:55PM AGAIN, I ASK IF THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE PEOPLE YOU
12:34:58PM REPRESENT OR YOUR NEIGHBOR, WOULD YOU APPROVE THIS?
12:35:00PM THE ANSWER SHOULD BE NO.
12:35:03PM AGAIN, I'M ASKING THAT YOU DO NOT APPROVE THIS VARIANCE.
12:35:05PM THE MAIN PICTURE THAT THEY SHOWED EARLIER WITH ALL THE WATER
12:35:08PM IS I BELIEVE WHEN POWHATAN AND ROME FLOODED.
12:35:12PM OUR STREET DOES NOT FLOOD LIKE THAT.
12:35:14PM THEY DO HAVE SOME WATER COMING DOWN, BUT I WOULD QUESTION
12:35:16PM THE PICTURE THAT THEY SHOWED YOU.
12:35:18PM AGAIN, HERE'S THEIR STRUCTURE.
12:35:25PM THERE'S THEIR HOUSE WITH ALL THE CEMENT ALL AROUND IT.
12:35:31PM THE STRUCTURES ARE RIGHT ON THE BUILDINGS, RIGHT ON THE
12:35:33PM PROPERTY LINES.
12:35:34PM THEY HAVE ALL THIS CONCRETE EVERYWHERE.
12:35:36PM RIGHT HERE IS THE ADDITION OF THE HOUSE.
12:35:38PM THAT WAS 2008.
12:35:39PM THIS IS 2009.
12:35:41PM YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, HOW SMALL IT IS.
12:35:44PM THEY DID AN ADDITION ON THAT HOUSE, PROBABLY DOUBLED THE
12:35:48PM HOUSE.
12:35:49PM HERE'S THE HOUSE WITH NO GUTTERS.
12:35:56PM THIS IS WHAT ZERO PROPERTY LINE LOOKS LIKE.
12:35:58PM THIS IS WHAT ZERO PROPERTY LINE LOOKS LIKE.
12:36:01PM AND THIS IS WHERE THE STRUCTURE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY DID
12:36:05PM THE ADDITION.
12:36:06PM THERE'S NO GUTTERS, NO GUTTERS, NO GUTTERS.
12:36:10PM NO GUTTERS ON THE MAIN HOUSE.
12:36:11PM I ASK THAT YOU DO NOT APPROVE THIS VARIANCE, AND I ASK THAT
12:36:17PM CODE VIOLATION LOOKS AT THIS PROPERTY AGAIN TO SEE WHAT
12:36:20PM VIOLATIONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE.
12:36:21PM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT
12:36:25PM HAS SERVED ON THE BOARD AS YOU MOVE FORWARD ON OTHER
12:36:29PM VENTURES.
12:36:29PM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
12:36:36PM >> DAVID EUGENE SNYDER, 5460 RIVER SHORE DRIVE.
12:36:41PM I'M GOING TO SAY ONE SENTENCE.
12:36:42PM IN 2015, IF THE CODE INSPECTOR WOULD HAVE RED FLAGGED THE
12:36:46PM SETBACK AND SIDE YARD VIOLATIONS, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
12:36:48PM THE COMPLAINT WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THERE WERE NO VISUAL SIGNS
12:36:52PM OF VIOLATIONS, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS AN ADDITION TO THE
12:36:54PM HOUSE THAT DOUBLED ITS SIZE WITHOUT BUILDING PERMITS.
12:36:57PM THANK YOU.
12:37:03PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:37:03PM MY NAME IS MARIAN McCANN, 2812 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
12:37:08PM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE RIVER BEND CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE
12:37:12PM CONCERNED NEIGHBORS WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF
12:37:15PM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:37:16PM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE VARIANCE BOARD'S DENIAL OF --
12:37:23PM PARTIAL DENIAL OF REQUEST AND TO UPHOLD THE CITY'S -- THE
12:37:30PM VALIDITY OF THE CITY'S CODES.
12:37:32PM WHY?
12:37:32PM WE HAVE CODES FOR A REASON.
12:37:34PM THEY PROTECT NEIGHBORS FROM RUNOFFS, FROM OVER-PAVED
12:37:38PM PROPERTY.
12:37:39PM THEY HELP ESTABLISH MINIMUM CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS WHEN
12:37:43PM PLANS ARE REVIEWED AND INSPECTED.
12:37:45PM HOPE TO PREVENT CARS ALL OVER THE FRONT AND SIDE YARDS.
12:37:50PM AND TO CLOSE OFF LOT LINES FOR SAFETY ISSUES AND FOR
12:37:56PM VENTILATION.
12:37:57PM WE ARE HERE TO ASK THAT THE CITY'S CODES BE ENFORCED.
12:38:03PM TO THAT END AND YOU KNOW I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:38:07PM I'M HERE TO REITERATE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT DROPPING THE
12:38:09PM BALL IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.
12:38:11PM WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS, SITUATIONS BLOW UP
12:38:17PM WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT BLOWS OFF CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.
12:38:19PM I LIVE BY A PROPERTY WHERE SINCE JANUARY OF 2012, THERE HAVE
12:38:24PM BEEN 28 COMPLAINTS AND CODE CASES.
12:38:26PM THESE ARE SOME ONGOING ONES.
12:38:31PM TURNED IN RECENT, EXCUSE ME, IN OCTOBER, 2018, THE INSPECTOR
12:38:37PM CAME OUT.
12:38:37PM YOU SAW HIGH FENCE.
12:38:38PM YOU SAW AN ILLEGAL HIGH FENCE ON A CORNER LOT.
12:38:41PM YOU SAW AN ILLEGAL DRIVEWAY AND APRON.
12:38:44PM THE INSPECTOR CAME OUT AND SAID, GOSH, NO VIOLATIONS.
12:38:48PM REALLY?
12:38:48PM WE NEED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO WORK.
12:38:53PM YOU NEED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO WORK.
12:38:54PM WHEN IT DOESN'T IT WASTES YOUR TIME, OUR TIME, CITY
12:38:58PM RESOURCES, AND PERHAPS WORST OF ALL, IMPROVEMENTS THAT
12:39:02PM SHOULD BE ON THE CITY TAX ROLL.
12:39:05PM WE DON'T MIND DOING OUR PART.
12:39:06PM WE WRITE LETTERS TO MR. RUGGIERO, NICE LETTERS ASKING FOR
12:39:11PM COOPERATION.
12:39:12PM AGAIN, PLEASE, WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOU.
12:39:15PM YOU ARE THE BACKSTOP.
12:39:17PM WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME DOWN HERE AND APPEAL
12:39:23PM TO YOU FOR PUTTING ISSUES IN CONTEXT, FOR YOUR SOUND
12:39:26PM REASONING.
12:39:27PM PLEASE DENY THIS APPLICATION, AND PLEASE, THOSE OF YOU THAT
12:39:30PM ARE STAYING ON THE BOARD, ENCOURAGE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO
12:39:35PM THEIR JOB.
12:39:36PM FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE MOVING ON, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO
12:39:39PM WORK WITH YOU.
12:39:40PM WE SO VALUE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE
12:39:43PM TAMPA HEIGHTS, RIVER BEND AND ALL OF US.
12:39:46PM TO THE REST OF YOU, NAMASTÉ AND PLEASE CONTINUE THE GOOD
12:39:51PM WORK.
12:39:51PM DENY.
12:39:52PM THANK YOU.
12:39:52PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:39:54PM PETITIONER?
12:39:55PM THE APPLICANT?
12:40:00PM >>KRISTIN MORA: I WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY OF
12:40:02PM WHERE WE ARE SINCE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT
12:40:04PM THE VARIOUS VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUESTED.
12:40:06PM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD GRANTED SOME OF THE VARIANCES WITH
12:40:19PM RESPECT TO ONE SHED THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY FOR SOME TIME,
12:40:23PM THEY FOUND A HARDSHIP WITH RESPECT TO THAT SHED.
12:40:26PM THAT WAS GRANTED.
12:40:27PM THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPEALED TO YOU TODAY, SO THAT VARIANCE
12:40:33PM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GRANTED WILL REMAIN.
12:40:35PM THEY GET TO KEEP THAT VARIANCE.
12:40:37PM THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE THE THREE ADDITIONAL
12:40:40PM VARIANCES THAT -- IT'S MORE THAN THAT, BUT IN THREE MAIN
12:40:45PM POTS.
12:40:46PM THERE IS A MAIN STRUCTURE SETBACK OF THE SIDE YARD FROM
12:40:48PM SEVEN FEET TO ZERO FEET AND THE REAR YARD FROM 20 FEET TO
12:40:53PM 10 FEET.
12:40:53PM THAT'S FOR THE ADDITIONS TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
12:40:56PM THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, WHICH WOULD
12:41:00PM REQUIRE SETBACK REDUCTIONS FROM 3 FEET TO 0 FEET FOR THE
12:41:03PM SIDE, 3 FEET TO 0 FEET FOR THE REAR, AND 5 FEET TO 0 FEET
12:41:08PM FOR BUILDING SEPARATION, AND THEN THE THIRD VARIANCE WOULD
12:41:11PM BE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED GREENSPACE FROM 25% TO 16%.
12:41:15PM THOSE ARE THE THREE VETERINARIANS THAT THEY HAVE APPEALED
12:41:18PM THE DENIAL OF, THAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
12:41:22PM ON.
12:41:23PM AS YOU'RE AWARE, THIS HAS TO BE GRANTED UNDER 2780 OF OUR
12:41:27PM CODE, WHICH LOOKS FOR HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY WITH
12:41:30PM RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY OR A BUILDING OR A STRUCTURE THEY
12:41:33PM ARE ON.
12:41:34PM AND THEN THE COUNCIL TODAY HAS THE ABILITY TO DO ESSENTIALLY
12:41:40PM THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:41:42PM YOU CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD,
12:41:45PM WHICH WAS FOR DENIAL OF THOSE THREE VETERINARIANS.
12:41:47PM YOU CAN OVERTURN THE BOARD DECISION AND GRANT THE
12:41:51PM VETERINARIANS, OR JUST ONE OR TWO OF THOSE VARIANCES, AND
12:41:56PM YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS IF YOU DESIRE, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE
12:42:00PM THE ABILITY TO REMAND TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER
12:42:03PM CONSIDERATION.
12:42:04PM THAT'S PROCEDURALLY WHERE WE ARE.
12:42:08PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
12:42:09PM COUNCIL?
12:42:10PM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:42:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DON'T THEY HAVE FIVE MINUTES --
12:42:18PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OH, OKAY.
12:42:19PM I THOUGHT SHE WAS USING THAT -- SHE WAS EXPLAINING.
12:42:51PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:43:20PM >> INTERPRETER: FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT, YES, IT'S
12:43:23PM TRUE.
12:43:23PM WE DID ALL THESE THINGS --
12:43:26PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MAKE SURE YOU STATE HIS NAME FOR THE
12:43:28PM RECORD.
12:43:29PM >> INTERPRETER: HIS NAME IS JUAN COLLADO.
12:43:32PM DO YOU WANT ME TO START OVER?
12:43:34PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
12:43:35PM NOW YOU CAN TRANSLATE WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
12:43:38PM >> INTERPRETER: FIRST OF ALL, I WILL ADMIT THAT WHAT WE
12:43:40PM HAVE DONE ON OUR PROPERTY WE DID DO WITHOUT PERMITS OR
12:43:42PM ANYTHING BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WE HAD TO ASK FOR THOSE
12:43:49PM PERMITS.
12:43:49PM WHAT I DID THERE WAS TO HELP MY FAMILY, AND I DID IT WITH MY
12:43:53PM OWN HAND.
12:44:26PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:44:40PM >> INTERPRETER: SO AT THAT TIME, AN INSPECTOR DID COME.
12:44:45PM THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT -- WE'RE CUBANS.
12:44:49PM WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE LAW WAS.
12:44:51PM THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WHAT WE HAD DONE WE HAD NOT
12:44:54PM DONE IT PROPERLY.
12:44:55PM SO WE QUICKLY STARTED TO REMEDY THAT WITH GETTING THE PROPER
12:45:03PM PERMITS AND DOING IT AND SUBMITTING A PLAN OF WHAT WE HAD
12:45:09PM DONE.
12:45:11PM I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TODAY, I WANT TO FOLLOW YOUR LAW.
12:45:15PM I'M NOT TRYING TO BREAK YOUR LAW.
12:45:18PM IF I NEED TO TEAR THE WHOLE THING DOWN WITH MY HANDS, I WILL
12:45:22PM DO THAT.
12:45:26PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:45:44PM >> INTERPRETER: WHEN THE INSPECTOR LET US KNOW THAT WE HAD
12:45:48PM VIOLATED THESE THINGS, IMMEDIATELY, THE STRUCTURE, THE METAL
12:45:53PM STRUCTURE THAT WAS THERE, HE TOOK IT DOWN COMPLETELY.
12:45:57PM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S HOW THIS OPEN SPACE BECAME LIKE
12:46:04PM IT IS, BECAUSE MY HUSBAND IMMEDIATELY TOOK THAT DOWN.
12:46:17PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:46:21PM >> INTERPRETER: IF YOU WILL LOOK HERE AT THE VERY END, AT
12:46:27PM THE END OF THIS, THIS IS THE GUTTER STRUCTURE THAT I TOLD
12:46:32PM YOU THAT COMES DOWN THIS WAY.
12:46:40PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:46:46PM >> INTERPRETER: OKAY, THIS BACK HERE IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE
12:46:48PM GUTTER SYSTEM, WHERE THE WATER COMES DOWN.
12:46:50PM RIGHT HERE, THERE IS A PART OR A PIECE, IF YOU WILL, THAT
12:46:56PM DOES NOT ALLOW THE WATER TO GO OVER ON THAT RIGHT SIDE.
12:47:01PM SO IT'S NOT TRUE THAT THE WATER IS GOING OVER TO THE
12:47:07PM NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
12:47:08PM THERE'S NO WAY FOR IT TO GET THERE.
12:47:13PM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
12:47:14PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:47:19PM >> INTERPRETER: THE WATER THAT COLLECTS UP HERE ACTUALLY
12:47:22PM RUNS DOWN IN THE BACK SIDE OF THIS ONTO THE DIRT AREA THAT
12:47:28PM WE'VE SAID IS IN OUR BACKYARD.
12:47:32PM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
12:47:43PM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
12:47:45PM >> INTERPRETER: THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE COME TO YOU
12:47:53PM ASKING FOR YOU TO HELP US WITH OUR PETITION.
12:47:55PM AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME AND
12:47:59PM ASKED YOU NOT TO APPROVE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
12:48:02PM WE DIDN'T DO IT WANTING TO UPSET OR BOTHER ANYONE.
12:48:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT WHEN THE
12:48:13PM RED LIGHT LIGHTS UP, THEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
12:48:16PM SO NOW THIS COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT DIRECTION
12:48:24PM WE WANT TO GO.
12:48:26PM >> MAY WE SIT DOWN?
12:48:28PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, MA'AM.
12:48:29PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:48:37PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, IF I COULD, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION
12:48:41PM TO DENY THIS APPEAL FROM THE VRB 19-02.
12:48:53PM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
12:48:54PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
12:48:56PM OPPOSED?
12:48:57PM MR. SUAREZ.
12:48:58PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:48:59PM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR
12:49:05PM REVIEW.
12:49:08PM NONE OF THE HARDSHIP THAT IS BEING SAID IN THIS PARTICULAR
12:49:12PM APPLICATION IS MADE BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
12:49:17PM EVERYTHING THAT'S A PROBLEM WAS CREATED BY THE APPLICANT
12:49:23PM THEMSELVES, INCLUDING THE FLOODING.
12:49:26PM THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU SHOULD GET ANY KIND OF ENGINEER OR
12:49:31PM ANYTHING ELSE IS TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT CAUSING FLOODING,
12:49:34PM NOT ONLY IN YOUR OWN YARD BUT ANYONE ELSE'S.
12:49:37PM THERE IS NO WAY THAT THIS THING SHOULD HAVE EVER BEEN BUILT.
12:49:41PM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION LATER ON ABOUT WHAT STAFF SHOULD
12:49:43PM BE DOING WHENEVER THESE THINGS COME FORWARD IN TERMS OF CODE
12:49:47PM ENFORCEMENT.
12:49:47PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
12:49:49PM TO AFFIRM THE BOARD DECISION BASED PURELY ON THE APPLICATION
12:49:56PM THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY -- IT'S ALREADY PART OF THE REPORT,
12:50:01PM MR. SHELBY.
12:50:03PM I DON'T NEED TO REITERATE AN AFFIRMATION OF A PARTICULAR
12:50:09PM REPORT PUT IN THERE.
12:50:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE THIS IS A DE NOVO HEARING AND
12:50:13PM DENYING AN APPLICATION, FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIRES THE
12:50:15PM SECTION.
12:50:15PM MAY I SUGGEST YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO 27-80?
12:50:19PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WILL MAKE REFERENCE BACK TO THE REPORT AND
12:50:21PM TO 27-80, BUT IT IS IN THE RECORD AS A REPORT, AND THAT
12:50:26PM REPORT IS WHAT WE PUT ON AS PART OF THE AFFIRMATION.
12:50:30PM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A DE NOVO HEARING.
12:50:35PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
12:50:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:50:38PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:50:39PM DISCUSSION BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:50:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH THE TWO COLLEAGUES.
12:50:44PM EVEN AT THE END STILL SAYING -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:50:48PM [INAUDIBLE]
12:50:51PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:50:51PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
12:50:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN I SEE AN AIR CONDITIONING -- I'LL
12:50:55PM STOP THERE.
12:50:56PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.
12:50:59PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:51:01PM THOSE OPPOSED?
12:51:04PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH COHEN AND CAPIN BEING
12:51:07PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:51:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
12:51:09PM WE THANK YOU.
12:51:10PM WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS.
12:51:17PM MR. SUAREZ.
12:51:17PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:51:19PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
12:51:20PM ONE IS, AS WE ALWAYS DO HERE ON COUNCIL, THERE IS ALWAYS A
12:51:24PM HUMANE SOCIETY EVENT COMING UP.
12:51:27PM I FIND IT FUNNY THAT WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE HUMANE
12:51:30PM SOCIETY.
12:51:31PM I HAVE A FEELING NOW THAT WHEN I LEAVE COUNCIL, I MIGHT GET
12:51:34PM A JOB AS A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND COME BACK
12:51:37PM HERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
12:51:39PM WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A FREE SHOT CLINIC FOR DOGS, NOT FOR
12:51:42PM ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE, ON APRIL 6th, 2019, 9 A.M. TO
12:51:47PM 12 P.M. AT RIVER TOWER PARK 41 EAST BIRD STREET, RIVER TOWER
12:51:51PM PARK IS WHERE THAT TOWER THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE
12:51:55PM INTERSTATE IS AT.
12:51:56PM IT IS FOR YOUR DOGS, FOR THEIR SAFETY AND SECURITY.
12:51:58PM HAVE THE DOGS ON LEASHES AND THEY MUST BE EIGHT WEEKS OR
12:52:03PM OLDER.
12:52:05PM FOR THE DA 2PP VACCINE AND MUST BE THREE MONTHS OR OLDER FOR
12:52:09PM THE RABIES VACCINES.
12:52:11PM AND LIMITED TO THE FIRST 1,000 DOGS.
12:52:14PM IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE GO TO HUMANE SOCIETY
12:52:17PM TAMPA.ORG OR CALL 813-252-2027.
12:52:22PM SECONDLY, THIS WEEKEND, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FESTA ITALIANA.
12:52:27PM I'M SURE MR. MANISCALCO WAS GOING TO MENTION ABOUT IT.
12:52:31PM SINCE HE WILL TRANSLATE EVERY SINGLE PERFORMER THAT SHOWS UP
12:52:35PM ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, I THINK A BOCCI BALL TOURNAMENT ON
12:52:38PM SATURDAY.
12:52:38PM THERE'S NO BIG SUNDAY THING.
12:52:41PM COME IN THIS WEEKEND FOR THE FESTA ITALIANA.
12:52:44PM MR. GUIDO MANISCALCO WILL GREET THERE YOU IN THE GARB OF
12:52:47PM ANCIENT ITALIANS AND WHETHER IT'S A TOGA OR SOME OTHER
12:52:51PM THING, HE WILL BE THERE FOR YOU.
12:52:52PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:52:53PM A SIGHT TO SEE.
12:52:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.
12:52:55PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
12:52:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO MENTION THAT TODAY IS
12:52:58PM APRIL 4th.
12:52:59PM OF COURSE, IT IS THE 51st ANNIVERSARY OF THE ASSASSINATION
12:53:04PM OF MARTIN LUTHER KING AND WE REMEMBER HIM ON THIS DAY.
12:53:06PM THAT'S IT.
12:53:07PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA?
12:53:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
12:53:09PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. VIERA.
12:53:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY QUICK, I MOVE THAT THE NEW TAMPA PLAYERS
12:53:12PM BE GIVEN COUNCIL COMMENDATION THIS SUNDAY BY MYSELF.
12:53:17PM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
12:53:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MAY, YOU MAY.
12:53:21PM ALADDIN JUNIOR.
12:53:25PM I HAVE ONE MORE.
12:53:26PM THAT WAS FOR THEM TO COME AND SPEAK.
12:53:33PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
12:53:35PM WHO WAS IT SECONDED BY?
12:53:37PM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:53:38PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
12:53:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:53:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY QUICKLY, MR. CHAIR, APRIL IS AUTISM
12:53:43PM AWARENESS MONTH.
12:53:44PM I MOTION TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE MAYOR'S AUTISM
12:53:47PM ADVISORY BOARD AND PARKS AND RECREATION MAKE A PRESENTATION
12:53:50PM ON THE STATUS OF THEIR IMPORTANT WORK ON APRIL 25th AT
12:53:52PM 9 A.M. UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
12:53:55PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. VIERA.
12:53:57PM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:53:58PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:54:02PM >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:54:03PM >>FRANK REDDICK: BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
12:54:04PM GIVE ME A CHANCE.
12:54:05PM I YIELD TO MR. VIERA.
12:54:10PM LET ME REQUEST A MOTION TO BE PRESENTED TO JERRY BRUNSON WHO
12:54:15PM IS A LONGTIME PHOTOGRAPHER FOR THE FLORIDA SENTINEL BULLETIN
12:54:20PM AND THAT IT BE PRESENTED TO HIM APRIL 18 FOR HIS DEDICATED
12:54:24PM SERVICES TO THIS COMMUNITY.
12:54:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDDICK, SECONDED BY
12:54:29PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:54:30PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:54:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:54:32PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
12:54:33PM MR. MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS.
12:54:35PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:54:37PM OPPOSED?
12:54:37PM WE STAND ADJOURNED.
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