TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 18, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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8:58:52AM
9:03:25AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:03:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOING TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
9:03:28AM MEETING TO ORDER.
9:03:29AM WOULD YOU STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER, PLEASE?
9:03:36AM [SILENT PRAYER]
9:03:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AMEN.
9:03:49AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WOULD YOU LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT
9:04:11AM COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA WILL BE ABSENT DURING THIS SESSION.
9:04:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
9:04:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
9:04:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: PRESENT.
9:04:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:26AM >> VIERA?
9:04:26AM REDDICK?
9:04:27AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
9:04:28AM CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA?
9:04:31AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:04:32AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:04:35AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:04:36AM OPPOSED?
9:04:37AM ALL RIGHT.
9:04:38AM WE'LL GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:04:41AM ITEM NUMBER 1, PRESENTATION BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
9:04:45AM OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
9:04:57AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:05:00AM SHIRLEY FOXX KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
9:05:03AM THIS MORNING, COUNCIL, WE HAVE YOUR APPOINTMENT FOR THE
9:05:06AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
9:05:07AM WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE URBAN PLANNER
9:05:12AM POSITION.
9:05:14AM SHE IS DOMINIQUE S. COBB.
9:05:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:05:20AM MY NAME IS DOMINIQUE COBB.
9:05:26AM I LIVE HERE IN TAMPA.
9:05:31AM I ALSO AM A GRADUATE OF THE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY.
9:05:34AM I'M ALSO GRADUATING THIS YEAR AT ST. PETE COLLEGE.
9:05:39AM MY FOCUS IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, BASICALLY.
9:05:43AM ALSO, I'LL BE PLANNING TO STUDY ABROAD IN MAY SO THAT I CAN
9:05:47AM GET A BIT MORE EXPERIENCE IN CULTURE DIVERSITY AND HOPEFULLY
9:05:50AM BRING THAT BACK TO MY COMMUNITY.
9:05:52AM I RESIDE IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA, AND MY FOCUS IS PRESERVING
9:05:57AM THE HISTORIC SITES HERE IN TAMPA, THE ONES THAT ARE
9:06:01AM FORGOTTEN, THE ONES THAT ARE DIMINISHING BEFORE OUR EYES.
9:06:04AM SO I HOPE THAT I HAVE A CHANCE TO SERVE THIS AREA AND ALSO
9:06:09AM TAMPA.
9:06:13AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MS. COBB, YOU'RE GETTING A DEGREE IN URBAN
9:06:17AM PLANNING FROM ST. PETE COLLEGE?
9:06:18AM >> YES.
9:06:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TERRIFIC.
9:06:20AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:06:21AM WHAT PART OF EUROPE ARE YOU GOING TO STUDY?
9:06:26AM >> I'LL BE GOING TO INDIA, NEW DELHI.
9:06:34AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT IS HISTORICAL FOR SURE.
9:06:36AM THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.
9:06:37AM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT HER APPLICATION AS
9:06:40AM THE URBAN PLANNER POSITION ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
9:06:43AM COMMISSION.
9:06:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED
9:06:46AM BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:06:47AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
9:06:48AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:06:50AM OPPOSED?
9:06:52AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
9:06:54AM >> THANK YOU.
9:06:54AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A RESOLUTION?
9:06:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
9:06:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:06:58AM MR. SUAREZ MOVED -- WE GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ AND
9:07:05AM MOVED THE RESOLUTION, SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:07:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT SAY AYE.
9:07:09AM OPPOSED?
9:07:09AM ALL RIGHT.
9:07:10AM WE CONGRATULATE YOU AND BRING US SOMETHING BACK FROM ABROAD.
9:07:14AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:07:15AM WE TAKE SOUVENIRS EVERY NOW AND THEN.
9:07:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: YOU BETTER GET IT HERE QUICK.
9:07:22AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES, WE'RE EXPIRING NEXT WEEK.
9:07:28AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:07:30AM THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS MAN WITH A COAT ON.
9:07:56AM IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION
9:08:04AM TO MR. BRUNSON ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:08:09AM WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON OVER 30 YEARS OF
9:08:12AM DEDICATED SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TAMPA BAY
9:08:15AM COMMUNITY AS A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER.
9:08:18AM IN 1988, THE FLORIDA SENTINEL BULLETIN NEWSPAPER GAVE YOU
9:08:23AM YOUR FIRST START WHEN THEY HIRED YOU AS A NEW, SLASH, EVENT
9:08:29AM PHOTOGRAPHER.
9:08:29AM IN 1992, YOU STARTED BRUNSON PHOTOGRAPHY AND HAVE GONE ON TO
9:08:33AM BE ONE OF THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE AND RESPECTABLE
9:08:37AM PHOTOGRAPHERS IN THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
9:08:38AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SENDS BEST WISHES TO YOU AS YOU MOVE
9:08:41AM FORWARD WITH YOUR COMMITMENT TO TOUCH LIVES AND BRING SMILES
9:08:43AM TO SO MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:08:47AM A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
9:08:49AM ALWAYS REMEMBER, WITH GOD'S HELP, YOU CAN GIVE FREELY AND
9:08:55AM GENEROUSLY OF YOUR BLESSING THAT GOD HAS ENTRUSTED TO YOU.
9:09:02AM BE BLESSED.
9:09:03AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:09:03AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:09:06AM AND YOU HAVE TAKEN PLENTY OF MY PHOTOS.
9:09:10AM EVERY TIME I CALL AND SAY, "HEY, SEND ME A COPY," I'M STILL
9:09:14AM WAITIN'.
9:09:15AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:09:16AM THEN EIGHT YEARS, AND AIN'T GOT 'EM YET.
9:09:20AM SEND ME SOMETHING.
9:09:22AM >> I'M GOING TO SEND IT TO YOU.
9:09:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:09:24AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:09:25AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:09:26AM >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:09:31AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:09:35AM >> MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE, YOUNGEST SON AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.
9:09:46AM I'VE GOT ONE SON.
9:09:48AM HE HAD A TEST THIS MORNING.
9:09:50AM HE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE.
9:09:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MAKE SURE YOU GET ON CAMERA HERE SO YOU CAN
9:09:59AM LOOK BACK THIS EVENING AND SEE YOURSELF ON TV.
9:10:01AM OKAY.
9:10:10AM WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE.
9:10:11AM >> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND COUNCILMAN REDDICK
9:10:15AM FOR THIS AWARD.
9:10:15AM I'M USUALLY ON THAT SIDE OF THE PODIUM, SO IT FEELS NICE TO
9:10:23AM BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM.
9:10:25AM IT JUST FEELS NICE TO RECEIVE THIS.
9:10:29AM THANK YOU.
9:10:30AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, FOR ALL YOUR EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE
9:10:34AM AND YOUR NEXT ENDEAVOR AND WE'LL BE THERE FOR YOU AS WELL.
9:10:38AM THANK YOU.
9:10:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:10:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY, IN ALL MY YEARS OF
9:10:47AM PUBLIC SERVICE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER
9:10:49AM THAT A PHOTOGRAPHER HAS BEEN PHOTOGRAPHED ON AN OCCASION.
9:10:54AM USUALLY THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
9:10:55AM IT'S HISTORICAL.
9:10:56AM >> I LOVE FIRSTS.
9:10:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE MR. REDDICK, I HAD HAIR THE FIRST
9:11:00AM TIME YOU PHOTOGRAPHED ME, AND I'M STILL WAITING ON THE
9:11:03AM PICTURE.
9:11:03AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:11:04AM ONLY JOKING WITH YOU.
9:11:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BEFORE YOU GO, MR. BRUNSON, YOU'RE NOT
9:11:07AM LEAVING THE SENTINEL BULLETIN, ARE YOU?
9:11:10AM >> NO, NO.
9:11:11AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THIS IS JUST A RECOGNITION OF ALL YOUR YEARS
9:11:14AM OF TAKING GREAT PHOTOGRAPHS.
9:11:16AM >> EXACTLY.
9:11:17AM I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THE FLORIDA SENTINEL.
9:11:19AM THEY WERE THE BEGINNING OF ME TAKING PHOTOGRAPHY, AND THEY
9:11:21AM WERE BEHIND ME 100%.
9:11:24AM MR. ANDREWS AND ANDREWS THE III AND K. WELLS, THEY GAVE ME
9:11:31AM MY START.
9:11:32AM I ALWAYS HAVE A PLACE IN MY HEART FOR THEM.
9:11:34AM THEY MEAN A LOT TO ME.
9:11:37AM THEY ARE LIKE FAMILY.
9:11:38AM IT STARTED FROM THERE AND IT'S CONTINUING.
9:11:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, YOU DO A WONDERFUL JOB.
9:11:45AM I THINK YOU TOLD ME BEFORE YOU CAME UP HERE TODAY, YOU HAVE
9:11:47AM YOUR FAVORITE MOTHER-IN-LAW HERE.
9:11:49AM I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING THAT YOU WERE SAYING SUCH
9:11:51AM NICE THINGS ABOUT HER.
9:11:52AM THEN I REALIZED YOUR WIFE IS HERE WITH YOU, SO THAT'S GOOD
9:11:55AM TO KNOW.
9:11:56AM >> I'LL SAY THAT IF SHE WASN'T HERE.
9:11:58AM I'VE GOT THE BEST MOTHER-IN-LAW IN THE WORLD.
9:12:01AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:12:02AM KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
9:12:04AM >> THANK YOU.
9:12:05AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:12:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:12:10AM WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:12:11AM MR. SHELBY?
9:12:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:12:16AM GOOD MORNING.
9:12:16AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
9:12:18AM 30 MINUTES HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS
9:12:21AM SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC
9:12:23AM HEARING.
9:12:24AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A MATTER THAT IS SET FOR A
9:12:27AM PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY LATER DURING
9:12:29AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:12:30AM SPEAKERS ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE GIVEN
9:12:33AM PREFERENCE BEFORE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS.
9:12:37AM EACH SPEAKER IS GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
9:12:39AM PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND IT IS
9:12:43AM REQUESTED THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY TO
9:12:46AM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER ISSUES DIRECTED
9:12:49AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:12:51AM CITY COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR COOPERATION IN MAINTAINING
9:12:55AM ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM.
9:12:58AM THANK YOU.
9:13:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:13:00AM FIRST SPEAKER.
9:13:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, MENTESMOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:13:12AM AS NEW ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO BE COMING IN ONE WAY OR
9:13:19AM ANOTHER, WHOEVER GETS THE MAYORSHIP POSITION, WHOEVER WILL
9:13:25AM BE REPRESENTING DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, ONE
9:13:29AM THING NEED TO BE SAID ABOUT THIS CITY COUNCIL IN ITS
9:13:32AM TOTALITY.
9:13:33AM IT'S A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL.
9:13:34AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
9:13:36AM THE CITY IS ON AUTOMATIC.
9:13:39AM THE CITY IS ON AUTOMATIC.
9:13:42AM IF CITIZENS HAVE COMPLAINTS, IT'S NEVER ADDRESSED PROPERLY.
9:13:50AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S NEVER ADDRESSED AT ALL, PERIOD.
9:13:52AM NOTHING.
9:13:53AM YOU COME DOWN HERE AND THEY TALK ABOUT SOME GARBAGE ABOUT
9:13:57AM DECOR AND DECORUM AND LOOK AROUND YOU.
9:14:01AM LOOK DOWNSTAIRS.
9:14:02AM LOOK DOWNSTAIRS.
9:14:05AM A MAYOR OF A CITY THAT'S CALLING AFRICAN WOMEN IN 2018, IN
9:14:11AM 2018 CALLING BLACK WOMEN BITCHES AND CALLING FOR THE OPEN
9:14:15AM LYNCHING OF A YOUNG AFRICAN MAN AND YOU HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE
9:14:19AM SAYING NOT ONE THING AND THEN ONE PERSON TALKING ABOUT
9:14:22AM DECORUM.
9:14:23AM LOOK INSIDE THIS BUILDING, A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL AND
9:14:26AM LOOK AT DECORUM.
9:14:27AM LOOK AROUND YOU.
9:14:28AM CITY COUNCIL, $1 BILLION BUDGET.
9:14:31AM DEFICIT.
9:14:32AM DIRTY CARPET, DIRTY WALLS, A DIRTY, UGLY BUILDING.
9:14:36AM LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT KIND OF DECORUM.
9:14:38AM A BUDGET THAT CONSISTS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
9:14:41AM EVERY WEEK AND NOT 26% OF IT GOES TO THE AFRICAN POPULATION
9:14:48AM OR AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
9:14:49AM A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM
9:14:52AM DISTRICT 5 THAT DOES ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR
9:14:55AM DISTRICT 5.
9:14:56AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR DISTRICT 5.
9:15:00AM THAT'S A CERTAIN KIND OF REALITY.
9:15:03AM YOU'VE GOT BICYCLE LANES THAT IF YOU LOOK OUTSIDE YOUR
9:15:06AM WINDOW, WASTED MONEY, WASTED TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS.
9:15:10AM YOU DON'T SEE A BICYCLE RIDING ONE OF THOSE LANES FOR NO
9:15:15AM REASON WHATSOEVER.
9:15:15AM I HOPE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL AND THE NEW MAYOR COMES IN, DO
9:15:20AM SOMETHING THAT'S A REFLECTION OF WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.
9:15:24AM NOT ALL THE POLICE BRUTALITY AND RACISM AND ALL THE OTHER
9:15:29AM STUPIDNESS THAT GO WITH IT.
9:15:30AM YOU'VE GOT AN UGLY MAYOR DOWNSTAIRS THAT BRAGS ABOUT, HE
9:15:33AM RIDES AROUND IN AN EX-PIMP AUTOMOBILE.
9:15:37AM YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THAT.
9:15:39AM THAT'S LIKE ME BRAGGING SAYING I'M RIDING IN THE DEVIL'S
9:15:42AM CARRIAGE.
9:15:43AM OH, THE DEVIL'S CARRIAGE BELONGS TO ME NOW, AND YOU'VE GOT A
9:15:46AM NEW INCOMING MAYOR, POTENTIAL INCOMING MAYOR THAT'S OUT IN
9:15:50AM THE HOOD PIMPING BLACK PEOPLE, THE -- FUNERAL.
9:15:57AM PIMPING BLACK PEOPLE.
9:15:58AM THIS HAS TO STOP.
9:16:00AM THIS WICKEDNESS HAS TO STOP.
9:16:03AM YOU HAVE A CITY COUNCIL THAT MEETS ON THURSDAY THAT CAN'T
9:16:05AM EVEN BE ON TIME FOR WORK.
9:16:07AM WHAT KIND OF JOB IS THAT?
9:16:09AM [BEEP]
9:16:11AM NO RESPECT FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
9:16:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:16:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:16:21AM MY NAME IS JIM SHIMBERG, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AT
9:16:24AM STRATEGIC PROPERTY PARTNERS.
9:16:26AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT ARE ON
9:16:28AM THE NONPUBLIC HEARING AND ONE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
9:16:30AM I JUST WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON SOME
9:16:34AM VERY COMPLICATED MATTERS THAT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET
9:16:37AM THEM TO THIS POINT, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK AND
9:16:41AM DEDICATION OF YOUR STAFF IN WORKING THROUGH THESE MATTERS
9:16:44AM AND BRINGING THESE MATTERS TO COUNCIL.
9:16:46AM WE HOPE THAT WE'LL GET APPROVAL TODAY.
9:16:47AM ALSO, I WANTED TO WISH THE FOUR OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS
9:16:51AM WELL.
9:16:52AM I HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH YOU MY FIRST TWO YEARS IN
9:16:55AM OFFICE.
9:16:55AM DESPITE -- I THINK I FEEL LIKE YOU SERVED WELL.
9:16:59AM I APPRECIATE IT AND WISH YOU GUYS GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE.
9:17:01AM THANK YOU.
9:17:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:17:11AM MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT
9:17:16AM STREET.
9:17:17AM I WANT TO READ SOME SCRIPTURE TO YOU ALL FROM THE BOOK OF
9:17:22AM JEREMIAH.
9:17:22AM FOR I WILL RESTORE HEALTH UNTO THEE, I WILL HEAL THEE OF THY
9:17:27AM WOUNDS, SAID THE LORD; BECAUSE THEY CALLED THEE AN OUTCAST,
9:17:30AM SAYING THIS IS ZION, WHOM NO MAN SEEKETH AFTER.
9:17:33AM THUS SAITH THE LORD, BEHOLD, I WILL BRING AGAIN THE
9:17:36AM CAPTIVITY OF JACOB'S TENTS AND HAVE MERCY ON HIS DWELLING
9:17:42AM PLACE, AND THE CITY SHALL BE BUILT UPON HER OWN HEAP AND THE
9:17:48AM PALACE SHALL REMAIN AFTER THE MANNER THEREOF.
9:17:52AM AND OUT OF THEM SHALL PROCEED THANKSGIVING AND THE VOICE OF
9:17:57AM THEM THAT MAKE MERRY.
9:17:59AM I WILL MULTIPLY THEM.
9:18:01AM THEY SHALL NOT BE FEW.
9:18:06AM I WILL ALSO GLORIFY THEM, AND THEY SHALL NOT BE SMALL.
9:18:10AM THEIR CHILDREN ALSO SHALL BE AS AFORETIME, AND THEIR
9:18:14AM CONGREGATION SHALL BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THEM, AND I WILL
9:18:18AM PUNISH ALL THAT OPPRESS THEM, ALL THEM THAT OPPRESS THEM.
9:18:22AM AND THEIR NOBLES SHALL BE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR GOVERNOR
9:18:29AM SHALL PROCEED FROM THE MIDST OF THEM; AND I WILL CAUSE HIM
9:18:33AM TO DRAW NEAR, AND HE SHALL APPROACH UNTO ME, FOR WHO IS THIS
9:18:37AM THAT ENGAGED HIS HEART TO APPROACH UNTO ME, SAITH THE LORD.
9:18:43AM AND YE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, AND I WILL BE YOUR GOD.
9:18:48AM BEHOLD, THE WHIRLWIND OF THE LORD GOETH FORTH WITH FURY, A
9:18:54AM CONTINUING WHIRLWIND.
9:18:54AM IT SHALL FALL WITH PAIN UPON THE HEAD OF THE WICKED.
9:19:01AM THE FIERCE ANGER OF THE LORD SHALL NOT RETURN, UNTIL HE HAVE
9:19:05AM DONE IT.
9:19:05AM AND UNTIL HE HAVE PERFORMED THE INTENTS OF THE HEART, IN THE
9:19:09AM LATTER DAYS YE SHALL CONSIDER IT.
9:19:11AM COME FORWARD.
9:19:15AM I WANT YOU ALL TO RESPECT THIS MAN BECAUSE HE'S STANDING UP
9:19:19AM FOR PEOPLE.
9:19:20AM I KNOW YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO RESPECT HIM, BUT I'LL GIVE A
9:19:24AM DONATION, FIVE TWO DOLLAR BILL.
9:19:27AM PEOPLE DON'T RESPECT PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU BUT GOD RESPECT
9:19:30AM US ALL.
9:19:31AM I WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS AS A GIFT FROM GOD ALMIGHTY.
9:19:35AM >> THANK YOU, BROTHER.
9:19:37AM >> GOD BLESS YOU, MAN.
9:19:39AM >> FOR YOUR GIFT, BROTHER, I'LL GIVE YOU A GIFT.
9:19:43AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
9:19:43AM >> LOOK AT THAT, BOY, THAT IS A -- YOU ALL RESPECT THIS MAN.
9:19:48AM HE TRIES TO STAND UP FOR JUSTICE, NOT INJUSTICE.
9:19:53AM WE SHOULD RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.
9:19:54AM WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.
9:19:56AM MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ALL.
9:19:59AM THANK YOU.
9:20:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:20:03AM APPRECIATE YOU, MAN.
9:20:05AM GOD BLESS YOUR HEART.
9:20:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:20:25AM >> I'M HAROLD MUDRY.
9:20:28AM HAROLD'S RENTALS.
9:20:30AM I DO BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY AND AROUND HERE.
9:20:32AM WE ARE A TEMP RENTAL BUSINESS.
9:20:34AM WE JUST FINISHED THE BLUES FEST IN ST. PETE.
9:20:37AM AND SOME OF THE STUFF YOU HAVE IN THESE REGULATIONS, CODES,
9:20:41AM WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM ARE BEING PUT BY TOGETHER, BY
9:20:47AM PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TENTS ARE.
9:20:50AM DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENT TYPES, NEVER PUT UP A TENT.
9:20:53AM I JUST HANDED A DOCUMENT THERE THAT SHOWS I THINK I KNOW
9:20:56AM WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
9:20:58AM I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO PUT UP A TENT
9:21:03AM TO PUT THESE CODES TOGETHER, NOT SOMEBODY THAT HAS A POLICE
9:21:09AM RECORD OR SOMETHING ELSE.
9:21:11AM GET SOMEBODY WHO'S QUALIFIED WHO KNOWS TENTS.
9:21:14AM THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING IN THE TENT INDUSTRY IS
9:21:17AM OUTRAGEOUS FEES.
9:21:19AM I JUST DID THE BLUES FEST.
9:21:21AM I HAD OVER 40 TENTS UP IN THE AIR.
9:21:23AM THE FEE WAS $164 REGARDLESS IF I PUT UP ONE TENT OR TWO
9:21:30AM TENTS.
9:21:32AM SOME OF YOUR FEES PROPOSED HERE WOULD PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS
9:21:35AM BECAUSE OUR CUSTOMERS CANNOT PAY.
9:21:39AM THESE CODES AND REGULATIONS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE MEANT TO PUT
9:21:43AM US OUT OF BUSINESS.
9:21:44AM THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE EMPLOYED IN THE SPECIAL EVENT INDUSTRY
9:21:47AM IS NOT A LOT, BUT IT PROBABLY NUMBERS OVER 50,000 STATEWIDE.
9:21:52AM YOU CANNOT PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS.
9:21:55AM WE WANT REALISTIC REGULATIONS PUT TOGETHER BY PEOPLE WHO
9:22:01AM KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
9:22:03AM AGAIN, YOU HAVE THESE POP-UP TENTS SOLD BY WALMART, MADE IN
9:22:10AM CHINA, THEY ARE NOT EVEN FROSTPROOF.
9:22:13AM THERE'S A STORM COMING IN TOMORROW AT 4:00.
9:22:18AM I GUARANTEE YOU, EVERY POP-UP TENT IN ST. PETE WILL BE ON
9:22:21AM THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T STAKE THEM DOWN.
9:22:24AM THEY WON'T EVEN MEET THE CODE.
9:22:27AM I PROPOSE THAT ALL THESE POP-UP TENTS SOLD IN WALMART, IF
9:22:31AM THEY ARE USED FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT'S FINE.
9:22:35AM IF IT COMES INTO THE PUBLIC, IT HAS TO MEET THE SAME CODES
9:22:38AM AND STANDARDS THAT THE TENT INDUSTRY PRACTICES NOW.
9:22:43AM I JUST TALKED TO MY CREW.
9:22:45AM WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE STAKE AND TRIPLE STAKE SOME OF THE
9:22:48AM TENTS FOR THE STORM TOMORROW.
9:22:50AM THAT'S NOT IN THE CODE.
9:22:53AM THIS IS LEARNED BY EXPERIENCE.
9:22:54AM AND, AGAIN, YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO PUT TOGETHER --
9:22:59AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
9:23:00AM -- REGULATIONS TO PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS THAT CANNOT, MAYBE
9:23:04AM NOT EVEN SPELL "TENT."
9:23:06AM I APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
9:23:09AM THANK YOU.
9:23:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:23:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:23:21AM MY NAME IS JEAN LENNARD.
9:23:23AM I'M WITH MIDWAY TENTS.
9:23:25AM I'M HERE REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 79.
9:23:27AM IN THIS ITEM, IT SAYS FIRE MARSHAL'S INSPECTIONS, THE TYPE
9:23:36AM OF FIBER BEING USED DOES NOT MEET CODE.
9:23:39AM HOW QUICKLY CAN A TENT BE EVACUATED?
9:23:43AM THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TENTS.
9:23:45AM SOME ARE STRUCTURAL TENTS, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A
9:23:49AM FESTIVAL, YOU'LL NOTICE MOST OF THE FESTIVAL TENTS DO NOT
9:23:51AM HAVE SIDE WALLS SO IT CAN BE EASILY EVACUATED.
9:23:54AM THE TENTS GOING UP, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE SUPER BOWL, AND I
9:23:57AM THINK A LOT OF THE CODES YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT HAVE TO
9:24:02AM DO WITH THE SUPER BOWL AND THE STRUCTURAL TENTS WHICH ARE
9:24:04AM TENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED TO BE PUT UP BY ENGINEERS
9:24:08AM THAT ARE DESIGNED BY ENGINEERS AND PUT UP WITH CRANES DO NOT
9:24:12AM APPLY TO THE SMALL 10-BY-10 TENTS.
9:24:15AM BY IMPLEMENTING THESE CODES FOR THESE STRUCTURAL TENTS
9:24:20AM SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME AS A SMALLER TENT.
9:24:23AM I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF YOU GUYS ARE LEAVING HERE IN THE NEXT
9:24:25AM COUPLE OF WEEKS AND NEW BOARD MEMBERS ARE COMING.
9:24:28AM SO WE'RE ASKING IF WE CAN TABLE THIS OR POSTPONE ANY
9:24:31AM DECISION BEING MADE ON THIS UNTIL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO
9:24:35AM EDUCATE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE FUTURE BEFORE YOU GUYS
9:24:39AM MAKE A DECISION.
9:24:40AM GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REEDUCATE OR COME BACK, THE TENT
9:24:44AM COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, COME BACK AND AT LEAST ADDRESS THE NEW
9:24:49AM COMMISSION, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND GIVE THEM AN
9:24:52AM OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR OUR SIDE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION.
9:24:56AM FAIR ENOUGH?
9:24:57AM I'M SORRY.
9:25:01AM CITY COUNCIL.
9:25:01AM I APOLOGIZE.
9:25:03AM I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY INTENT, NOT THE WORDS.
9:25:06AM WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:25:13AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE NEW
9:25:16AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:25:18AM >> EVERY WEEK.
9:25:19AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
9:25:21AM >> HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED BEFORE THE NEXT FOUR
9:25:23AM YEARS.
9:25:24AM THANK YOU.
9:25:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: GOOD LUCK.
9:25:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE NEXT SPEAKER.
9:25:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:25:32AM MY NAME IS R. RICHARD ROMEO, 1309 EAST NORTH BAY, TAMPA,
9:25:38AM FLORIDA.
9:25:38AM I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE ORDER OF DEMOLITION OF MY PROPERTY.
9:25:42AM I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, AND MAYBE YOU
9:25:48AM MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
9:25:50AM THIS LETTER SAYS "ORDER OF DEMOLITION."
9:25:53AM I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE ALLEGED CRITERIA TO CAUSE A
9:26:00AM BUILDING OR A PARTIAL BUILDING TO BE DEMO'D.
9:26:06AM ALSO, I'D LIKE TO ASK, WHO WAS THE INSPECTOR THAT INSPECT MY
9:26:11AM PARTIAL HOUSE THAT I'M TRYING TO REBUILD.
9:26:16AM I NEED TO KNOW SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS RIGHT HERE, AND WHY
9:26:20AM HAVEN'T I GOT A COPY OF THE INSPECTION OR THE NAME OF THE
9:26:25AM INSPECTOR?
9:26:27AM NONE OF THESE WERE PRESENTED TO ME AT ALL.
9:26:30AM WHO DO I NEED TO FIND OUT IN WHICH DIRECTION I NEED TO GO.
9:26:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SIR, HAVE YOU CONTACTED ANY OF THE COUNCIL
9:26:36AM MEMBERS ABOUT THIS PRIVATELY YET?
9:26:38AM >> YES.
9:26:39AM AND I APPRECIATE MR. MARTIN.
9:26:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. WHO?
9:26:43AM >> MR. MARTIN SHELBY.
9:26:45AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. SHELBY IS OUR ATTORNEY.
9:26:47AM DID YOU CONTACT ANY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
9:26:49AM >> YES, I SENT MR. FRANK REDDICK SEVERAL LETTERS.
9:26:54AM THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I WAS UP HERE.
9:26:57AM I WAS UP HERE LAST MONTH ALSO.
9:27:00AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S HARD FOR US TO ANSWER ANYTHING WHEN WE
9:27:02AM DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION IN OUR HANDS.
9:27:05AM >> I DID GIVE IT TO THE FRONT OFFICE AND THEY DID SIGN FOR
9:27:09AM IT.
9:27:09AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
9:27:11AM IF IT WAS GIVEN TO MR. REDDICK, MR. REDDICK WAS WORKING ON
9:27:14AM IT WITH HIS STAFF.
9:27:15AM FOR US, WE CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS HERE ON A CONSTITUENT
9:27:18AM CONCERN.
9:27:18AM I WOULD DEFER TO MR. REDDICK AND HIS OFFICE AS TO WHAT IS
9:27:22AM HAPPENING.
9:27:22AM AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WOULD MEET WITH MR. REDDICK
9:27:26AM AFTERWARDS OR HIS STAFF OR I GUESS MR. SHELBY WHO IS MOVING
9:27:30AM HIS HANDS IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS, HAS SOME ANSWERS FOR
9:27:33AM YOU.
9:27:33AM IF YOU WANT TO DO IT IN OPEN COUNCIL, THAT'S FINE.
9:27:36AM BUT CONSTITUENT SERVICE ISSUE, WHEN WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE
9:27:39AM INFORMATION -- HANG ON -- WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE INFORMATION.
9:27:42AM I CAN'T ANSWER YOU.
9:27:42AM AND THIS IS NOT THE POINT FOR US TO ANSWER YOU.
9:27:44AM THIS IS FOR YOU TO MAKE A POINT.
9:27:46AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT.
9:27:48AM >> OKAY.
9:27:49AM WELL, I GUESS I MISUNDERSTOOD.
9:27:50AM I THOUGHT YOU WERE A WHOLE COMMITTEE.
9:27:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE ARE, SIR.
9:27:54AM I'M SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE DEBATES OR CONVERSATIONS WITH
9:27:58AM OUR CONSTITUENTS HERE.
9:27:59AM IF YOU HAVE A CONSTITUENT SERVICE ISSUE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU
9:28:02AM HAVE, WE TYPICALLY TAKE IT UP WITH STAFF AND THE
9:28:06AM ADMINISTRATION BASED ON YOUR CONCERNS.
9:28:08AM SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY CONTACTED A COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK WE
9:28:11AM SHOULD WAIT FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE TO DECIDE WHAT'S
9:28:14AM GOING ON WITH IT.
9:28:15AM THAT'S HOW WE TYPICALLY DO THINGS.
9:28:17AM >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THIS BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL
9:28:20AM MONTHS.
9:28:20AM I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HIM.
9:28:22AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:28:23AM I'M SAYING WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T MAKE ANY COMMENT RIGHT NOW
9:28:26AM ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT --
9:28:34AM [ NO ENCODER ]
9:28:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- FROM THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
9:28:58AM MR. RUGGIERO RESPONDED THAT HE WOULD BE HANDLING IT.
9:29:02AM I DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL, A VOICE MAIL YESTERDAY FROM
9:29:04AM MR. ROMEO SAYING HE HAD YET TO.
9:29:06AM IT WAS MY INTENTION TODAY TO FOLLOW UP WITH MR. RUGGIERO.
9:29:10AM THE DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF MR. ROMEO'S SITUATION.
9:29:12AM HE RELAYED THAT TO ME THROUGH THE E-MAIL, AND THAT HE DID
9:29:16AM INDICATE THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR
9:29:20AM RESPONDING.
9:29:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SIR, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU THAT NOBODY HAVE
9:29:24AM IGNORE YOUR CONCERN.
9:29:25AM >> I WAS NOT REALLY IMPLYING THAT BECAUSE MR. MARTIN DID
9:29:28AM CONTACT ME A COUPLE OF TIMES.
9:29:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THIS IS GOVERNMENT.
9:29:30AM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
9:29:34AM >> I DON'T WANT THEM TO COME IN AND DEMO MY HOUSE.
9:29:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
9:29:37AM THIS IS A GOVERNMENT.
9:29:38AM YOU SAY YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE, AND YOU REQUESTED IT TO BE
9:29:44AM DONE, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME.
9:29:46AM >> I UNDERSTAND.
9:29:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
9:29:49AM WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT MR. SAL RUGGIERO BE IN CONTACT WITH
9:29:58AM YOU.
9:29:58AM >> THANK YOU.
9:29:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: NEXT PERSON.
9:30:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:30:00AM MY NAME IS LORRIN SHEPARD, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE
9:30:04AM STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:30:06AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING.
9:30:07AM I RESIDE AT 6901 EBB TIDE AVENUE IN APOLLO BEACH.
9:30:12AM RECENTLY, I MET WITH A NUMBER OF YOU TO DISCUSS SOME
9:30:15AM CONCERNS THAT THE STRAZ CENTER HAS WITH THE AIR TOWER
9:30:18AM PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED RIGHT DIRECTLY SOUTH OF
9:30:24AM THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
9:30:25AM I'M HERE TO REPORT SOME GOOD PROGRESS BEING MADE.
9:30:29AM YESTERDAY I MET WITH BOB McDONAUGH AND SPOKE ITEM BY ITEM
9:30:32AM ON THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE REGARDING THE TOWER, SOME OF
9:30:35AM THE CONCERNS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU.
9:30:38AM I'VE RECEIVED ASSURANCES FROM HIM THAT THEY WILL BE
9:30:40AM ADDRESSED, AND THEY SOUND LIKE THEY WOULD BE ADDRESSED TO
9:30:44AM OUR SATISFACTION.
9:30:44AM TODAY IS GOOD NEWS.
9:30:47AM WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT.
9:30:48AM I THINK THERE MAY BE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT IS
9:30:51AM REGARDING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PERHAPS THE RELEASE OF SOME
9:30:55AM LAND TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
9:30:57AM I KNOW THERE IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS CONTINUED TO NEXT
9:31:00AM WEEK, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT THE PARTNERSHIP IS
9:31:04AM STRONG AND WE'RE WORKING VERY WELL TOGETHER, AND WE'RE
9:31:06AM LOOKING FORWARD TO A POSITIVE OUTCOME AND ANOTHER ADDITION
9:31:09AM TO IMPROVED STREETS, A LARGER ARRIVAL PLAZA AND DOWNTOWN
9:31:15AM RESIDENTS IN PROXIMITY TO THE STRAZ CENTER.
9:31:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
9:31:18AM ALL RIGHT.
9:31:19AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
9:31:23AM COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
9:31:23AM ALL RIGHT.
9:31:34AM YOU PLACED A WALK-ON ON THE AGENDA.
9:31:39AM >>JORGE MARTIN: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
9:31:44AM WE HAVE A WALK-ON.
9:31:45AM THIS IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE EXECUTION BY THE MAYOR
9:31:48AM AND ATTESTATION OF THE CITY CLERK OF TERMINATION OF
9:31:50AM UNSECURED RIGHTS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:31:53AM CMJ, LLC RELATED TO CENTRO YBOR COMPLEX AND PROVIDING AN
9:32:00AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:32:00AM THE REASON FOR THE TERMINATION, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IS THAT
9:32:16AM FOR SEVERAL YEARS AFTER CMJ TOOK OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE
9:32:21AM CENTRO YBOR COMPLEX, THEY WERE PAYING A YEARLY AMOUNT.
9:32:28AM THAT AGREEMENT PROVIDING FOR THAT YEARLY AMOUNT WOULD
9:32:32AM TERMINATE IF THEY SOLD THE ASSET.
9:32:35AM AND WHAT HAPPENED HERE, CMJ DID NOT SELL THE ASSET.
9:32:41AM THEY SOLD THE CORPORATION TO A THIRD PARTY, WHICH IS THE
9:32:44AM CURRENT OWNER.
9:32:45AM THE CURRENT OWNER IN AN INSTANCE WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE
9:32:50AM RECEIVED TITLE TO THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE DONE AN
9:32:56AM ACCOUNTING, WOULD HAVE DETERMINED IF THERE WERE ANY AMOUNTS
9:32:58AM LEFT OVER AND THEN THE CITY WOULD GET A PERCENTAGE AFTER
9:33:02AM THAT, AFTER THE PAYMENT OF CREDITORS AND OTHER PARTIES AHEAD
9:33:04AM OF THEM.
9:33:05AM IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY HAVE MET WITH ADMINISTRATION,
9:33:08AM MR. McDONAUGH HAS SPOKEN TO THEM, AND THEY HAVE
9:33:11AM ESTABLISHED THAT HAD THEY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF A
9:33:13AM CONVEYANCE, THE AUDIT WOULD SHOW THERE WOULD BE NO AMOUNTS
9:33:16AM LEFT FOR THE CITY.
9:33:17AM THEY HAVE OFFERED TO PAY $100,000 FOR TERMINATION, AND OUR
9:33:22AM RELATIONSHIP, THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CENTRO YBOR NOW
9:33:26AM AND FOREVER, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHATEVER PAYMENTS WERE
9:33:29AM LEFT ON THE GUARANTEES WERE MADE LAST YEAR.
9:33:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:33:34AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
9:33:35AM MR. SUAREZ.
9:33:36AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. MARTIN, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.
9:33:39AM BECAUSE THE CORPORATION WAS SOLD, WE HAVE TO MAKE A NEW
9:33:42AM AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO HAVING THE TERMINATION
9:33:45AM PORTION OF IT INSTITUTED, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:33:49AM >>JORGE MARTIN: THERE IS NO NEW AGREEMENT.
9:33:51AM WE'RE JUST TERMINATING THE EXISTING AGREEMENT.
9:33:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO THIS IS THE EXISTING AGREEMENT BUT WITH
9:33:55AM THE NEW NAMED PARTY.
9:33:57AM >>JORGE MARTIN: IT'S A NEW PARTY.
9:33:59AM THEY KEPT THE SAME NAME.
9:34:00AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY, IT'S A NEW PARTY --
9:34:03AM >>JORGE MARTIN: BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID, INSTEAD OF BUYING
9:34:05AM THE ASSET IN THEIR NAME, SINGLE ASSET CORPORATION IN CENTRO
9:34:10AM YBOR SO THEY OWN CENTRO YBOR.
9:34:13AM THE NAME NOW IS CMJ.
9:34:15AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: DOES IT CHANGE ANY OTHER ASPECTS OF THEIR
9:34:17AM OWNERSHIP?
9:34:18AM THIS IS JUST A MINISTERIAL THING IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE IT
9:34:22AM GOES THROUGH.
9:34:22AM >>JORGE MARTIN: CORRECT.
9:34:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES TO WHAT THE
9:34:25AM ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS.
9:34:26AM >>JORGE MARTIN: NO.
9:34:27AM WHAT THIS WILL DO IS TERMINATE THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
9:34:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE.
9:34:35AM >>JORGE MARTIN: IT'S A BIG CHANGE.
9:34:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: TERMINATING THE AGREEMENT.
9:34:37AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TERMINATING THE AGREEMENT BUT REALLY NO OTHER
9:34:40AM CHANGE OTHER THAN THE TERMINATION.
9:34:41AM WE ARE GOING TO COLLECT THE MONEY, RIGHT?
9:34:45AM WE ARE GOING TO COLLECT THE MONEY?
9:34:47AM >>JORGE MARTIN: ACCORDING TO -- GOT A CHECK --
9:34:50AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN ONE FELL SWOOP.
9:34:52AM THIS IS NOT 25,000 NOW --
9:34:55AM >>JORGE MARTIN: ONE-TIME PAYMENT.
9:34:56AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ONE-TIME PAYMENT.
9:34:57AM THANK YOU.
9:34:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
9:35:01AM COUNCIL?
9:35:01AM ALL RIGHT.
9:35:02AM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
9:35:03AM >> SO MOVED.
9:35:04AM >> SECOND.
9:35:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:35:06AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:35:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:35:09AM THOSE OPPOSED?
9:35:10AM OKAY.
9:35:12AM >>JORGE MARTIN: THANK YOU.
9:35:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:35:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT SHOULD HELP THE BUDGET.
9:35:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BY THE PUBLIC FOR
9:35:20AM RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
9:35:23AM NONE.
9:35:23AM WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:35:27AM ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. SUAREZ, WOULD YOU READ THAT?
9:35:30AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YES, SIR.
9:35:31AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
9:35:34AM ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2019-48 ORDAINED BY THE CITY
9:35:38AM COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON MARCH 21, 2019, TO CORRECT A
9:35:42AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
9:35:46AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:35:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
9:35:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:35:50AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:35:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:35:52AM OPPOSED?
9:35:55AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:35:57AM -- MAY 16, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
9:36:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS PUBLIC
9:36:03AM SAFETY.
9:36:04AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:36:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:36:05AM MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 5.
9:36:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
9:36:10AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:36:11AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:36:12AM OPPOSED?
9:36:13AM ALL RIGHT.
9:36:14AM WE'LL GO TO PARKS AND RECREATION, MR. MANISCALCO.
9:36:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:36:19AM I MOVE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 8.
9:36:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
9:36:23AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:36:25AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:36:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:36:27AM GO TO PUBLIC WORKS, MS. YOLIE CAPIN.
9:36:32AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:36:33AM I MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 17.
9:36:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:36:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ONE IS BEING CONTINUED.
9:36:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE IS CONTINUED --
9:36:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
9:36:41AM 9 IS CONTINUED.
9:36:42AM I MOVE ITEMS 10 THROUGH 17, 9 BEING CONTINUED.
9:36:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
9:36:52AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:36:53AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:36:54AM GO TO FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. COHEN.
9:36:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:37:00AM I MOVE ITEMS 18, 19, AND 20.
9:37:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:37:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:37:06AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:37:08AM OPPOSED?
9:37:09AM ALL RIGHT.
9:37:10AM WE GO TO BUILDING, ZONING.
9:37:12AM YES, MA'AM.
9:37:13AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT NUMBER 32 HAVE A
9:37:17AM SEPARATE --
9:37:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M SORRY, WHAT, MA'AM?
9:37:21AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NUMBER 32, A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:37:23AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE HAVE TO CONTINUE IT.
9:37:25AM IT'S BEING CONTINUED.
9:37:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT BEING CONTINUED.
9:37:30AM SO I WANT IT SEPARATE --
9:37:32AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I'M GOING TO DO IT.
9:37:35AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
9:37:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:37:37AM BUILDING, ZONING, PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, MR. SUAREZ.
9:37:39AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:37:41AM I'M GOING TO MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 31 AND 34 TO 44.
9:37:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:37:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:37:49AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:50AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:37:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'M ALSO GOING TO MOVE ITEM 32 TO BE
9:37:58AM CONTINUED TO APRIL 25th AT THE EVENING SESSION.
9:38:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DISCUSSION.
9:38:05AM >> SECOND.
9:38:07AM >> WE HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
9:38:09AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M CURIOUS, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR LAST
9:38:11AM MEETING ON OUR LAST DAY, AND WE HAD A WEEK TO GET
9:38:15AM INFORMATION, AND DID ANYONE RECEIVE INFORMATION ON THIS SALE
9:38:18AM AT ALL?
9:38:24AM >> WELL, I WAS TOLD THEY NEEDED ANOTHER WEEK TO TALK TO US
9:38:27AM ALL.
9:38:27AM I WAS TOLD IT WAS BEING CONTINUED FOR THAT REASON.
9:38:30AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I GOT THE SAME NOTICE.
9:38:32AM THEY PUT THIS DEAL TOGETHER BUT THEY HAVE NO INFORMATION FOR
9:38:37AM US.
9:38:37AM JUST PAY ATTENTION ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LAST MEETING AT
9:38:45AM THE LAST HOUR.
9:38:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF THE FINAL MOMENT.
9:38:50AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:38:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES, SIR.
9:38:58AM >> I WOULD BE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.
9:39:01AM THE ONE OUTSTANDING ISSUE IS WHERE WE RELOCATE THE POLICE
9:39:04AM FORCES.
9:39:04AM AND I'M WORKING TO DO THAT, AND I NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME.
9:39:07AM TECO IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THEIR
9:39:12AM ONLY AND SOLE REASON FOR BUYING THIS WOULD BE FOR A SOLAR
9:39:15AM FARM.
9:39:15AM IT'S NOT AN INVESTMENT BY THEM OR A LAND FLIP.
9:39:20AM THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THE EDITORIAL THE OTHER DAY WHICH
9:39:22AM I FOUND INTERESTING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR IT
9:39:25AM AS A MIXED-USE PROJECT.
9:39:26AM IT'S NOT NEAR AN EXIT AT THE INTERSTATE.
9:39:29AM IT DOES NOT HAVE UTILITY SERVICES, SO THAT LAND IS NOT
9:39:33AM APPROPRIATE FOR ANY OF THOSE USES.
9:39:35AM BUT I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU NEXT WEEK BECAUSE
9:39:37AM THE ONE OUTSTANDING ISSUE THAT I HAVEN'T SOLVED YET IS A
9:39:41AM RELOCATION FOR THE POLICE HORSES, OF WHICH THERE ARE SIX.
9:39:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:39:56AM SECONDED BY --
9:40:00AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: MR. COHEN SECONDED IT.
9:40:02AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S FOR THE CONTINUATION.
9:40:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ, SECONDED BY
9:40:05AM MR. COHEN.
9:40:06AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:08AM OPPOSED?
9:40:10AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, ON ITEM NUMBER 33, I MOVE THE
9:40:12AM SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
9:40:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:40:16AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
9:40:17AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:19AM OPPOSED?
9:40:21AM TRANSPORTATION, MR. SUAREZ.
9:40:21AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:40:23AM I MOVE ITEMS 45 TO 48 AND 50 TO 53.
9:40:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:40:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:40:31AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:40:32AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:33AM OPPOSED?
9:40:35AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN ADDITION, I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION
9:40:36AM ON NUMBER 49.
9:40:38AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
9:40:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
9:40:41AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:40:42AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:44AM THOSE OPPOSED?
9:40:45AM ALL RIGHT.
9:40:47AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I MOVE ON NUMBER 54, SCHEDULE REVIEW
9:40:52AM HEARING ON JULY 18, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
9:40:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:40:57AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
9:40:58AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:40:59AM OPPOSED?
9:41:02AM >>HARRY COHEN: MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO OPEN ITEMS 55 THROUGH 56
9:41:12AM -- 66 EXCUSE ME.
9:41:13AM 55 THROUGH 66, 9:30.
9:41:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:41:18AM WE GO TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:41:20AM GO TO ITEM NUMBER 55.
9:41:28AM MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:41:32AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:41:34AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:41:35AM OPPOSED?
9:41:36AM ALL RIGHT.
9:41:37AM WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 55.
9:41:40AM GOOD TO SEE MR. MILLER IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
9:41:47AM ITEM NUMBER 55.
9:41:48AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 55?
9:41:59AM >> JIM SHIMBERG, STRATEGIC PROPERTY PARTNERS.
9:42:02AM WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:42:05AM WE'RE CHANGING THE NAME OF OLD WATER STREET TO WATER STREET.
9:42:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
9:42:10AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 55?
9:42:15AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:42:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:42:19AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
9:42:20AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
9:42:22AM OPPOSED?
9:42:22AM MR. COHEN, WOULD YOU READ 55?
9:42:28AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:42:29AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
9:42:32AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA RENAMING AND
9:42:35AM DESIGNATING THAT CERTAIN PORTION OF OLD WATER STREET
9:42:37AM EXTENDING FROM SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET TO CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
9:42:39AM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, SO
9:42:42AM THAT IT WILL BE KNOWN AS WATER STREET; REPEALING ALL
9:42:44AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:42:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
9:42:49AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
9:42:51AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
9:42:57AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA
9:43:00AM ABSENT.
9:43:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:43:02AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 56.
9:43:04AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 56?
9:43:08AM >>KRISTIN MORA: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL
9:43:11AM DEPARTMENT.
9:43:12AM THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE OF
9:43:14AM THE CITY'S TREE AND LANDSCAPE CODE.
9:43:16AM BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT, THERE IS ONE
9:43:18AM REQUEST FOR A CHANGE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:43:21AM WE ORIGINALLY HAD OPENED THE SECOND READING WOULD BE
9:43:24AM SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 4th.
9:43:25AM IT GOT PUSHED BACK TO TODAY, THE 18th.
9:43:28AM IN ADDITION, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRAINING MATERIALS AND
9:43:30AM STARTING THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO TRAIN STAFF AND SETTING UP
9:43:34AM TRAINING MODULES FOR OUR BOARDS.
9:43:36AM AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE DETERMINED WE PROBABLY
9:43:39AM NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GET THIS SUCCESSFULLY AND
9:43:43AM FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
9:43:44AM WE'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG
9:43:47AM THOSE LINES AS WELL.
9:43:48AM WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A JUNE 1st EFFECTIVE DATE ON THE
9:43:50AM ORDINANCE TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE RAMP-UP TIME TO GET BOTH
9:43:54AM PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS AND OUR STAFF AND
9:43:56AM BOARDS ALL READY FOR THIS PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE CHANGE.
9:43:59AM I AM HERE IF YOU ANY QUESTIONS.
9:44:01AM IF NOT, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO ARE
9:44:04AM HOPING TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.
9:44:06AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD ASK HER A QUESTION, CHAIR?
9:44:08AM WHAT CHANGES ARE MADE ON THIS?
9:44:12AM SINCE I HAD TO USE QUITE A BIT OF LUNG POWER TO DO THE FIRST
9:44:15AM READING, WHAT ARE WE CHANGING ON THIS THING?
9:44:17AM >>KRISTIN MORA: NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE TITLE.
9:44:19AM IT WILL BE THE SAME YOU READ LAST TIME.
9:44:20AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
9:44:21AM >>KRISTIN MORA: BUT AS FAR AS THE CHANGES THAT YOU RECEIVED
9:44:24AM IN THE MEMO, AS WE WENT THROUGH, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
9:44:28AM REVISIONS TO THIS.
9:44:29AM I MISSED ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU HAD DIRECTED AT THE
9:44:32AM FEBRUARY HEARING WHEN YOU TRANSMITTED IT TO THE PLANNING
9:44:35AM COMMISSION.
9:44:36AM IT WAS CORRECT IN WHAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT
9:44:38AM IT GOT MISSED IN THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT
9:44:41AM WAS TO MAKE THE NEW SETBACKS, THE NEW AUTOMATIC SETBACKS
9:44:44AM APPLICABLE TO ALL LOTS.
9:44:45AM THAT CORRECTION WAS MADE.
9:44:46AM THERE WERE ALSO TWO REFERENCES THAT WERE BROKEN, SECTION
9:44:50AM NUMBERS HAD CHANGED.
9:44:51AM THOSE ARE CORRECTED IN THIS AS WELL.
9:44:52AM THOSE WERE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT CAME OUT.
9:44:54AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
9:44:55AM SO NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
9:44:56AM >>KRISTIN MORA: NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
9:44:58AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S CATCHING SMALL LITTLE ERRORS THAT WERE
9:45:02AM PART OF IT.
9:45:02AM THAT'S THE ONLY THING BEING CHANGED.
9:45:04AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT IS THE ONLY THING CHANGED AND WE ARE
9:45:06AM REQUESTING THE JUNE 1st DATE.
9:45:07AM THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES.
9:45:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:45:10AM BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES IN
9:45:14AM THE TREE SIZES AND REPLACEMENT OF THOSE TREES?
9:45:16AM >>KRISTIN MORA: NO.
9:45:17AM THERE ARE NO CHANGES.
9:45:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, TWO-INCH TREES?
9:45:20AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YEAH, STILL THE TWO AND A HALF INCH TREES.
9:45:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SAY TWO AND A HALF.
9:45:25AM YOU SAID TWO AND A HALF.
9:45:26AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THERE IS A CHANGE FROM CURRENT CODE TO THE
9:45:29AM NEW CODE.
9:45:31AM CURRENT CODE CONTEMPLATES A TWO-INCH CALIPER REPLACEMENT
9:45:36AM TREE.
9:45:36AM THE NEW CODE REQUIRES TWO AND A HALF INCH CALIPER
9:45:39AM REPLACEMENT TREE, BUT THAT HAS BEEN TRUE THROUGHOUT EVERY
9:45:42AM VERSION OF THE NEW CODE, TWO AND A HALF INCH CALIPER.
9:45:46AM THAT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE YOUR READINGS.
9:45:48AM THAT IS A CHANGE FROM OLD CODE TO --
9:45:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEING A LITTLE ON THE REALISTIC SIDE, I
9:45:52AM DON'T KNOW THE LIFE CYCLE OF A TWO-INCH TREE, IF IT'S
9:45:57AM TRANSPLANTED FROM ONE TO ANOTHER IN THE LIFE CYCLE OF A TWO
9:45:59AM AND A HALF INCH TREE TO ANOTHER CYCLE, THE AVAILABILITY OF
9:46:06AM VARIABLES OF LIFE -- IN OTHER WORDS, THE TREE IS GOING TO
9:46:10AM DIE.
9:46:10AM BETWEEN A TWO AND A TWO AND A HALF.
9:46:12AM THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN.
9:46:14AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT TWO TO TWO AND A HALF, THAT'S 20% OF A
9:46:19AM TOTAL OF TWO AND A HALF INCHES.
9:46:21AM >>KRISTIN MORA: YES.
9:46:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE COST
9:46:24AM BETWEEN THE TWO TREES, TWO TREES, TWO AND A HALF INCH TREES
9:46:28AM AND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF SURVIVAL BETWEEN THE TWO TREES.
9:46:33AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I ALSO DO NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I BELIEVE KATHY
9:46:36AM BECK.
9:46:36AM I'M JUST A LAWYER.
9:46:37AM BUT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES COORDINATOR --
9:46:40AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:46:40AM MS. BECK IS HERE, AND I BELIEVE SHE'S READY TO ADDRESS THAT.
9:46:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:46:46AM KATHY BECK, NATURAL RESOURCES COORDINATOR.
9:46:48AM IN REFERENCE TO THE TWO-INCH TREE TO THE TWO AND A HALF INCH
9:46:53AM TREE, THE TWO INCH TREE IS TYPICALLY A 30-GALLON, GROWN IN A
9:46:58AM 30-GALLON CONTAINER.
9:46:59AM THE TWO AND A HALF, TYPICALLY A 45-GALLON.
9:47:02AM I DID DO SOME RESEARCH FROM LOCAL TREE GROWERS, AND THEY
9:47:06AM HAVE SENT OUT TREE BROKERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO GET COST
9:47:09AM COMPARISONS, AND IT CAME TO ABOUT 70 TO 100 DOLLAR
9:47:12AM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO INCH TO TWO AND A HALF INCH.
9:47:15AM DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
9:47:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ABOUT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY BETWEEN --
9:47:22AM >> THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE.
9:47:23AM IT'S JUST THE CONTAINER SIZE.
9:47:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY BENEFIT?
9:47:27AM ANY BENEFIT RATIO BETWEEN THE TWO FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC?
9:47:30AM IN OTHER WORDS, THE LIFE CYCLE OF A TWO INCH TREE, HOW LONG
9:47:35AM DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME A TWO AND A HALF TREE?
9:47:37AM >> VERY QUICKLY.
9:47:37AM ONCE ESTABLISHED, THEY WITHIN A YEAR, WITHIN A YEAR, TWO
9:47:40AM YEARS.
9:47:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LIFE
9:47:42AM EXPECTANCY OF THE TREE BEING TRANSPORTED BETWEEN A 30-GALLON
9:47:45AM AND 45-GALLON, BUT NO DIFFERENCE IN RELATION TO THAT COST.
9:47:51AM >> SORRY.
9:47:52AM DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART.
9:47:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CONFUSED MYSELF.
9:47:55AM THE DIFFERENCE IN COST BETWEEN THE LIFE CYCLE OF TWO INCH
9:47:59AM TREE AND TWO AND A HALF INCH TREE RELATED TO THE ACTUAL
9:48:01AM PERFORMANCE OF THE TREE WOULD BE VERY MINIMAL.
9:48:04AM >> MINIMAL.
9:48:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- TREE GROW IN A YEAR.
9:48:07AM WHAT IS THE COST OF A TWO INCH TREE?
9:48:09AM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EITHER.
9:48:10AM >> PROBABLY ABOUT 350 TO 400 DOLLARS.
9:48:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS.
9:48:15AM >> IN THE CURRENT MARKET.
9:48:16AM IT FLUCTUATES.
9:48:17AM IT FLUCTUATES.
9:48:18AM I'M SORRY FOR ASKING YOU, I SEE THE SPONSOR OF THE TREE IS
9:48:28AM HERE, AND HE IS THE GODFATHER OF TREES.
9:48:34AM HE'S NOT STANDING UP NOW.
9:48:36AM I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION HIS NAME.
9:48:38AM THERE HE IS.
9:48:38AM JOE CHILLURA.
9:48:40AM NICE GUY.
9:48:41AM HE WORKED HARD BACK IN THE '70s.
9:48:43AM I ADMIRE HIM FOR NOT ONLY THIS BUT HIS PUBLIC SERVICE NOT
9:48:47AM ONLY HERE BUT THE COUNTY COMMISSION.
9:48:48AM WHEN THERE IS A LIMB THAT IS PROTRUDING FROM A NEIGHBOR'S
9:48:52AM YARD INTO YOUR YARD AND IT'S A SMALL LIMB, YOU HAVE TO CALL
9:48:57AM SOME FIELD INSPECTOR TO GO INSPECT?
9:48:59AM >> NOT UNLESS IT'S 24 INCHES OR LARGER, AND THE LIMB IS FOUR
9:49:05AM INCHES IN DIAMETER OR LARGER.
9:49:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MUCH IN DIAMETER?
9:49:09AM >> FOUR INCHES.
9:49:09AM THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE PERMIT.
9:49:13AM THOSE ARE CONSIDERED STRUCTURAL LIMBS OF THE TREE.
9:49:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS --
9:49:17AM >> YES, YOU ARE.
9:49:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- BECAUSE IT'S COMING UP QUICKLY.
9:49:20AM ARE WE PREPARED TO HIRE DIFFERENT PEOPLE?
9:49:23AM I UNDERSTAND AS PART OF THIS, YOU HAVE AN INSPECTION TO SEE
9:49:26AM IF IT'S LEGAL, THE SIZE OF THE LIMB.
9:49:28AM AND THEN YOU HAVE A REINSPECTION, I GUESS, TO SEE IF THEY
9:49:30AM CUT IT DOWN, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT, AM I CORRECT?
9:49:33AM >> YES, SIR.
9:49:33AM IT'S ONE INSPECTION.
9:49:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST THE CITY TO
9:49:38AM DO THAT?
9:49:40AM >> I DON'T THINK WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT.
9:49:41AM WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING THE COUNTY HAS INSTITUTED,
9:49:45AM WHICH IS A FORM, AN AFFIDAVIT BY THE CERTIFIED ARBORIST
9:49:48AM STATING THEY ARE PRUNING IT TO ANSI STANDARDS WHICH SHOULD
9:49:53AM EXPEDITE THAT PERMIT.
9:49:54AM IT'S AN AFFIDAVIT THAT THE TREE SERVICE SIGNS THAT SAYS THEY
9:49:58AM WILL BE PRUNING A BRANCH FOUR INCHES OVER IN DIAMETER, AND
9:50:02AM THAT THEY WILL BE PRUNING IT TO THE AMERICAN NATIONAL
9:50:04AM STANDARDS INSTITUTE AND WILL ISSUE THE PERMIT AND THEN DO
9:50:11AM RANDOM CHECKS.
9:50:12AM THEY ARE ALL CERTIFIED LICENSED ARBORISTS.
9:50:15AM WE'RE ASSUMING THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
9:50:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING BUT WE OURSELVES
9:50:19AM ARE NOT GOING TO BE CHECK.
9:50:20AM >> YES, SIR.
9:50:21AM WE WILL BE CHECKING.
9:50:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.
9:50:24AM YOU HAVE TO -- WE DON'T HAVE THE FORCES TO DO THAT.
9:50:28AM >> I'M NOT PREPARED.
9:50:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO BE COMPLETE WHEN I VOTE YEA OR
9:50:34AM WHATEVER.
9:50:35AM I WANT MAKE SURE THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION COMING IN, I HAVE
9:50:38AM TO HIRE PEOPLE FOR THE TREES, YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME MONEY.
9:50:41AM WELL, DUMMY CHARLIE, WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE, YOU DIDN'T ASK
9:50:44AM THE QUESTIONS.
9:50:45AM >> WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FORESTER POSITION OPEN TO HIRE AS OF
9:50:50AM TODAY.
9:50:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
9:50:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
9:50:52AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M GOING TO BACK TO THE TWO NATURE AND TWO
9:50:56AM AND A HALF INCH, SOMETHING YOU BROUGHT UP.
9:50:59AM IF THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE, WHY?
9:51:00AM IF IT GROWS IN A YEAR TO TWO AND A HALF, WHY ARE WE ADDING
9:51:05AM THAT EXPENSE?
9:51:06AM >> OR TWO YEARS.
9:51:07AM CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, CALIPER IS MEASURED SIX INCHES ABOVE
9:51:10AM THE ROOT BALL OF THE TREE.
9:51:11AM SO THAT TWO INCHES IS MEASURED THERE.
9:51:13AM SO WE'RE REALLY GETTING ONE-INCH TREES BY THE TIME THEY ARE
9:51:17AM BEING PLANTED.
9:51:18AM WE'RE TRYING TO GET A TRUE TWO-INCH TREE IN THE GROUND.
9:51:21AM AND ALL OF OUR CALCULATIONS BASED ON MITIGATION ARE BASED ON
9:51:25AM TWO INCH AS OPPOSED TO ONE INCH.
9:51:28AM WHEN YOU MEASURE IT DBH.
9:51:31AM AT TWO INCHES, SIX INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND, THEY TAPER
9:51:35AM TREES, TREES TAPER.
9:51:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ALL THE TREES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY HAVE
9:51:38AM BEEN UP TO THIS POINT PLANTED AT TWO INCH.
9:51:42AM >> YES, MA'AM.
9:51:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AND THEY ARE PRETTY GOOD OUT THERE, RIGHT?
9:51:46AM DOING OKAY?
9:51:48AM >> I'M ASSUMING SO IF THEY ARE WATERED PROPERLY.
9:51:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: TAKING CARE OF THOUSANDS OF TREES OUT THERE.
9:51:54AM >> YES, MA'AM.
9:51:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOOD JOB.
9:51:58AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YEAH, IT'S A VERY GOOD JOB.
9:51:59AM THANK YOU.
9:52:00AM THAT HELPS ME WITH MY DECISION.
9:52:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
9:52:02AM ANYONE ELSE?
9:52:02AM ALL RIGHT.
9:52:03AM WE GO TO THE PUBLIC.
9:52:04AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 56?
9:52:09AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:52:10AM STEVE MICHELINI.
9:52:11AM I'M REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT ONLY TWO ISSUES.
9:52:16AM ONE IS TWO INCH TREE VERSUS TWO AND A HALF INCH TREE
9:52:21AM REQUIREMENT.
9:52:21AM I KNOW IT'S NOT THE EXPENSE; IT'S THE AVAILABILITY.
9:52:24AM WHEN YOU GO TO THE NURSERIES, THEY GROW TWO INCH, FOUR INCH,
9:52:27AM SIX INCH, EIGHT INCH TREES.
9:52:29AM THEY DON'T GROW NORMALLY TWO AND A HALF INCH TREES.
9:52:32AM THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN.
9:52:33AM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GO BACK TO THE CITY
9:52:35AM STANDARD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TWO INCHES, NOT TWO AND A HALF
9:52:39AM INCHES.
9:52:39AM THE SECOND THING IS REGARDING THE TREE TRIMMING, ANYTHING
9:52:43AM OVER 24 INCHES WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT.
9:52:46AM THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT.
9:52:48AM YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ANYBODY AND ANYONE WHO IS TRIMMING A
9:52:51AM TREE -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GRAND TREES.
9:52:54AM THIS IS LESS THAN A GRAND TREE -- OBTAIN A PERMIT, WHICH IT
9:52:57AM TAKES TIME, IT TAKES MONEY.
9:52:59AM A TYPICAL HOMEOWNER IS NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
9:53:02AM IF THEY HIRE SOME YARDMAN OR THEIR OWN YARDMAN TO TRIM
9:53:06AM TREES, THEY RESPECTFULLY SHOULDN'T -- NOT GOING TO DESTROY
9:53:14AM THE TREE.
9:53:15AM WE'VE RUN SOME NUMBERS.
9:53:16AM AND THE EFFECTIVE NUMBER OF PERSONS YOU'D HAVE TO HIRE TO
9:53:20AM HANDLE THE CURRENT WORKLOAD WOULD BE TEN NEW INSPECTORS.
9:53:24AM JUST TO PROCESS THE TREE TRIMMING SIDE.
9:53:26AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU REMOVE THAT PROVISION,
9:53:33AM REQUIRES A PERMIT FOR TRIMMING THOSE LIMES, AND THIS IS ON
9:53:38AM PRIVATE PROPERTY.
9:53:40AM IT DOESN'T APPLY TO RIGHT-OF-WAY TREES.
9:53:42AM SO THOSE TWO ISSUES, THEY KIND OF LOOM LARGE OVER THE
9:53:48AM IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROCESS.
9:53:49AM WE'VE WORKED REALLY LONG AND HARD TO GET ALL OF THESE OTHER
9:53:52AM PROVISIONS IN THE CODE, AND THOSE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT
9:53:55AM PROBABLY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
9:53:56AM I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:53:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE OR ARE YOU
9:54:02AM AGAINST IT?
9:54:03AM >> SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE WITH THOSE TWO AMENDMENTS.
9:54:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
9:54:06AM MS. CAPIN.
9:54:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO
9:54:11AM GET A TWO AND A HALF INCH TREE.
9:54:13AM SINCE YOU CAN'T GET A TWO, YOU'LL GO TO THREE OR FOUR OR
9:54:16AM WHATEVER IT IS, YOU'RE SAYING.
9:54:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: CORRECT.
9:54:19AM THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, GENERALLY.
9:54:21AM THE NURSERIES DON'T GROW THEM IN THESE CAPACITIES.
9:54:23AM THE CITY IS TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY MEASURE THE DIAMETER OF
9:54:27AM THE TREE.
9:54:27AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THE CITY IS LOOKING AT THE MEASUREMENT AND
9:54:30AM THE GROWERS ARE --
9:54:33AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THEY'RE NOT.
9:54:34AM THEY GROW THEIR TREES IN CONTAINERS, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN
9:54:39AM SIZES, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GET.
9:54:43AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: A THREE-INCH TREE, WHAT IS THAT CONTAINER?
9:54:46AM HOW MUCH IS THAT IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THREE INCH OR FOUR
9:54:51AM INCH?
9:54:51AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT SIZE CONTAINER
9:54:54AM THEY GROW IN.
9:54:56AM 45-GALLON CONTAINER, I DON'T KNOW.
9:54:58AM BUT IT'S NOT THE EXPENSE.
9:55:00AM IT'S NOT THE 50 OR 60 OR 70 DOLLARS.
9:55:02AM IT'S AVAILABILITY AND PRACTICALITY.
9:55:05AM IF YOU GO TO A NURSERY --
9:55:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER?
9:55:08AM DO YOU MIND IF HE ANSWERS IT?
9:55:12AM THANK YOU.
9:55:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:55:17AM RICKY FREDERICO, 400 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
9:55:21AM SUITE 1040.
9:55:22AM A TWO INCH OR TWO AND A HALF INCH TREE ARE BOTH ABLE TO BE
9:55:27AM PLANTED AT 30-GALLON.
9:55:28AM THE REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT IS TWO AND A HALF INCH OR
9:55:33AM 30-GALLON, WHICH TECHNICALLY PERMITS A TWO-INCH TREE STILL.
9:55:39AM SO IN MY MIND, AS A PRACTITIONER, THERE'S NO REAL CHANGE IN
9:55:43AM THE SIZE BECAUSE 30 GALLONS STILL --
9:55:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: TWO INCH OR 30-GALLON.
9:55:47AM >> THE CODE STATES EITHER ONE WILL SUFFICE.
9:55:50AM >> TWO AND A HALF OR 30-GALLON.
9:55:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: TWO AND A HALF OR 30-GALLON.
9:55:53AM AND THEY PLANT THE TWO INCH IN 30 GALLONS -- HERE IT SAYS
9:55:59AM 25-GALLON.
9:56:03AM >> THIS IS FLORIDA -- STANDARDS, WHICH IS WHAT THE CODE WAS
9:56:08AM BASED ON.
9:56:08AM IT'S SAYING THAT ANY CONTAINER LARGER THAN 25, WHICH 30
9:56:11AM WOULD BE.
9:56:11AM SO IF YOU PROVIDE -- IF ANYONE PROVIDES A 30-GALLON TREE,
9:56:16AM WHETHER IT'S TWO OR TWO AND A HALF, IT MEETS GRADES AND
9:56:19AM STANDARDS, AND IT MEETS THE 30-GALLON PROVISION OF THE CODE
9:56:22AM CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
9:56:24AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO HELP WITH THE
9:56:27AM CALIPER, WHICH THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE MEASUREMENT THAT
9:56:31AM WE'RE TALKING?
9:56:33AM IF IT'S A TWO INCH -- I'M STILL TRYING TO COMPREHEND --
9:56:38AM >> IN MY MIND, THE CALIPER IS MEASURED SIX INCHES ABOVE THE
9:56:41AM GROUND.
9:56:41AM THE REPLACEMENT WAS ORIGINALLY BASED ON DBH, WHICH IS FOUR
9:56:45AM AND A HALF FEET ABOVE THE GROUND, WHICH TO ADJUST FOR THAT
9:56:48AM DIMENSIONAL DIFFERENCE USUALLY SUBTRACT A HALF INCH TO AN
9:56:53AM INCH.
9:56:53AM THAT GETS IT TO THE TWO INCH DBH WITH TWO AND A HALF INCH
9:56:56AM CALIPER.
9:56:57AM BUT MITIGATION NOW IS BASED ON CANOPY, SO IT'S -- AND THE
9:57:01AM CALCULATION ON HOW THE REPLACEMENT IS CRUNCHED NOW IS
9:57:07AM CANOPY, SO IT'S LIKE SPEAKING TO THE INCH REQUIREMENT IS NOT
9:57:12AM THAT BIG A DEAL, IN MY MIND.
9:57:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BUT IT WAS A BIG DEAL TO OUR STAFF.
9:57:17AM WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THIS, SO IF YOU CAN -- IF THEY PLANT
9:57:21AM TWO INCH IN A 30-GALLON, WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED?
9:57:24AM IT TURNS OUT TO BE THE SAME THING.
9:57:27AM >> IT DOES.
9:57:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DON'T KNOW WHY -- WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?
9:57:34AM WHY IS THAT BEING DONE?
9:57:35AM IF THEY REALLY WANTED A TWO AND A HALF INCH, WHY ARE THEY
9:57:38AM ALLOWING SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TWO INCH IN A 30?
9:57:41AM THE OPTION.
9:57:45AM >> I THINK AT SOME POINT IT WAS THREE AND 45-GALLON, AND
9:57:52AM THAT WAS HITTING SUPPLIER DEMAND ISSUES.
9:57:56AM AND COLLECTIVELY WENT DOWN TO TWO AND A HALF, 30-GALLON OR
9:58:01AM MAYBE TWO AND A HALF, 45 AND THEN WHEN IT WAS REALIZED THAT
9:58:04AM TWO AND A HALF CAN STILL FIT IN A 30-GALLON, IT JUST BECAME
9:58:08AM TWO AND A HALF, 30-GALLON.
9:58:10AM THAT PART I DON'T KNOW.
9:58:11AM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TWO AND A HALF OR 30-GALLON IS
9:58:13AM THE SAME AS TWO INCH OR 30-GALLON.
9:58:17AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXACTLY.
9:58:19AM EXACTLY.
9:58:19AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I'M STILL TRYING TO DIGEST THE CHANGE.
9:58:26AM IF A 30-GALLON IS OKAY, THEN A TWO INCH SHOULD BE OKAY.
9:58:30AM IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
9:58:31AM >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
9:58:32AM IT'S ALMOST AS IF 30-GALLON ALONE IS THE CRITERIA.
9:58:36AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: EXACTLY.
9:58:37AM THANK YOU.
9:58:40AM FOR HELPING ME.
9:58:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. SUAREZ.
9:58:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION, MR. MICHELINI, WAS
9:58:47AM THIS KNOWLEDGE NOT KNOWN BEFOREHAND?
9:58:49AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO.
9:58:51AM SOME OF THIS WAS INSERTED AT THE LAST CHANGE.
9:58:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK THAT OUR LAWYER SAID THAT IT WENT TO
9:58:58AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS TWO AND A HALF.
9:59:01AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: RIGHT.
9:59:01AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ARE YOU DISAGREEING WITH THAT ASSESSMENT?
9:59:04AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO.
9:59:05AM IT WAS ALWAYS AGREED THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS IT HERE.
9:59:07AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
9:59:10AM THAT WAS KNOWN THEN.
9:59:10AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: RERAISED THAT OBJECTION THEN, TOO.
9:59:12AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ALL RIGHT.
9:59:13AM LISTEN, I READ THIS WHOLE DAMN THING, OKAY.
9:59:16AM I DON'T REMEMBER YOU COMING HERE AND TALKING ABOUT THIS TWO
9:59:20AM WEEKS AGO.
9:59:20AM MY QUESTION IS, CAN'T THIS MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT CAN --
9:59:26AM IN THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF SOME OF THESE THINGS BE DONE
9:59:29AM IN A DIFFERENT WAY?
9:59:30AM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEASURE -- LET ME FINISH -- WE'RE
9:59:33AM NOT GOING TO MEASURE WHAT THE SUPPLY DEMAND OF TREES ARE.
9:59:36AM WE CAN ONLY PUT THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE BASED ON WHAT WE
9:59:39AM WANT FOR THE CANOPY, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
9:59:41AM IN TERMS OF HOW WE WRITE ORDINANCES -- YOU'VE BEEN AROUND
9:59:45AM HERE A LONG TIME, SO DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S TRUE?
9:59:49AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
9:59:50AM THEY ALSO HAVE THE INCH MEASUREMENT IN THERE ON THE CHART.
9:59:53AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I GOT IT.
9:59:54AM MY POINT IS THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
9:59:56AM THAT MATRIX IS A PRETTY LARGE MATRIX AND I GUARANTEE YOU
9:59:59AM SOMEBODY MADE A LOT OF EFFORT TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
10:00:01AM I THINK THAT OUR FOLKS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE A GOOD FAITH
10:00:05AM ESTIMATE ON THIS.
10:00:06AM MY POINT IN TELLING YOU ALL THIS IS THAT YOU'RE ARGUING
10:00:09AM ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, WHICH IS THE
10:00:12AM MARKETPLACE.
10:00:13AM RIGHT?
10:00:14AM ALL WE CAN DO IS BASE OUR KNOWLEDGE ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE
10:00:18AM IN TERMS OF THE CANOPY.
10:00:20AM THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS.
10:00:22AM ALL RIGHT?
10:00:22AM SO CHANGING IT -- CHANGING IT ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING
10:00:27AM OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE DO IT AT TWO AND A HALF
10:00:29AM AND THEY GO, WELL, WE HAVE A SHORTAGE ON TWO-INCH TREES OR
10:00:32AM TWO INCH -- YOU KNOW -- I MEAN -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO
10:00:37AM COME UP TO A SOLUTION AND A RESOLUTION NOW.
10:00:39AM I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WORK THAT WE PUT IN WELL
10:00:41AM OVER TWO YEARS.
10:00:43AM I MEAN, THE LANDING STRIP WAS TWO YEARS.
10:00:46AM THE FLIGHT WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS.
10:00:49AM SO WHEN YOU COME HERE NOW TO -- YEAH, I MEAN, SO WHEN YOU
10:00:54AM COME HERE NOW TO MAKE A MINOR CHANGE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, IT
10:00:58AM GIVES ME HEARTBURN BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION
10:01:02AM THAT HAS TO DO WITH MARKET CONDITIONS BASED ON WHAT YOU
10:01:07AM SAID, BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO CHASE
10:01:12AM MARKET CONDITIONS IN AN ORDINANCE.
10:01:14AM I THINK YOU KNOW THAT.
10:01:16AM I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT.
10:01:17AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS CORRECT ABOUT THIS.
10:01:18AM THIS IS NOT A NEW, YOU KNOW, STANDARD THAT WAS BROUGHT OUT
10:01:21AM LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO AND YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO
10:01:24AM PRESENT IT TO US.
10:01:25AM THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH IT.
10:01:27AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, WHAT HAPPENED WAS, I APPROACHED THE
10:01:29AM STAFF ABOUT IT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THEY
10:01:33AM INDICATED THAT THE PROVISION OF THE SIZE OF THE TREE COULD
10:01:38AM NOT BE ADDRESSED TODAY WITHOUT MAKING IT GO BACK TO FIRST
10:01:42AM READING.
10:01:42AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I GET IT.
10:01:44AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE ISSUE REGARDING THE TREE TRIMMING AND
10:01:46AM THE PERMIT FOR THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED WITHOUT IMPACTING THE
10:01:51AM ORDINANCE GOING FORWARD AND BEING ADOPTED TODAY.
10:01:54AM THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT PROVISIONS.
10:01:56AM I WASN'T ASKING THAT THAT BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY, AND WHAT
10:02:00AM I HAD ASKED THE STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS TO
10:02:04AM LOOK AT THAT AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION IN 60 DAYS.
10:02:08AM OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD NOT BE THIS CITY COUNCIL THAT'S SITTING
10:02:11AM TODAY.
10:02:11AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: 60, MEANING HOLDING THIS OFF FOR 60 DAYS?
10:02:15AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, NO, NO.
10:02:16AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT THIS.
10:02:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR, YES, SIR.
10:02:19AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RULES IN TERMS OF HOW
10:02:21AM WE IMPLEMENT THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S ONE THING.
10:02:24AM IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE ORDINANCE ITSELF SO IT
10:02:26AM DOESN'T GO FORWARD, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
10:02:28AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS.
10:02:31AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M NOT TRYING TO DELAY ADOPTION OF
10:02:33AM ANYTHING.
10:02:33AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
10:02:34AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE SMALL PROVISION ABOUT DELETING THE
10:02:36AM THREE WORDS THAT SAYS THE PERMIT REQUIRED FOR PRIVATE
10:02:38AM PROPERTY TREE TRIMMING FOR SPECIMEN TREES, THE ONLY THING IT
10:02:43AM WOULD ASK FOR WAS THAT TO BE DELETED.
10:02:46AM AND THE STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INDICATED THAT
10:02:49AM WOULD NOT DELAY THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
10:02:51AM THE OTHER PORTION IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, WITH
10:02:55AM BOTH TECHNICAL STANDARDS, AS MR. PADRICA POINTED OUT, AND
10:03:02AM PERHAPS WE CAN ADDRESS IT THERE OR BRING BACK AN AMENDMENT,
10:03:04AM IF SO DESIRED, IN 60 DAYS TO LOOK AT THAT.
10:03:08AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I MAY NOT DESIRE 60 DAYS ONLY BECAUSE I WON'T
10:03:11AM BE HERE.
10:03:12AM IT'S NOT UP TO ME AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL BE DESIROUS
10:03:18AM OF A 60-DAY WAIT.
10:03:19AM THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
10:03:21AM I'M TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PORTION OF IT.
10:03:23AM I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM NOW.
10:03:25AM THANK YOU.
10:03:25AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:03:26AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: RIGHT.
10:03:27AM I'M IN AGREEMENT.
10:03:28AM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SLOW THIS DOWN.
10:03:29AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
10:03:30AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: BUT I WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION ON
10:03:31AM THE TREE TRIMMING.
10:03:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:03:35AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:03:37AM >> MY NAME IS MARY LOU BAILEY.
10:03:39AM I WILL I HAVE IN HYDE PARK.
10:03:41AM I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT FLIGHT FOR THREE LONG YEARS.
10:03:45AM I LIKE TO COOK AT HOME.
10:03:46AM I'LL SAY IN OPENING, PUT A FORK IN IT, IT'S DONE.
10:03:50AM LET'S GET THIS PASSED.
10:03:51AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS, A LOT OF MEETING, A LOT
10:03:53AM OF RESEARCH ABOUT SUPPLY AND DEMAND, AND WE NEED TO JUST
10:03:57AM MOVE ON, GUYS.
10:03:59AM I SUPPORT THE ADOPTION OF THE TREE CODE BECAUSE IT DOES
10:04:02AM BALANCE PROPERTY RIGHTS WITH THE COLLECTIVE BENEFIT OF THE
10:04:05AM TREE CANOPY TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:04:07AM IT STRENGTHENS MITIGATION AFTER TREE REMOVAL BY FOCUSING ON
10:04:11AM CANOPY REPLACEMENT, TYPE OF TREE AND AREA OF THE CITY.
10:04:13AM IT'S MINDFUL OF STATE-LEVEL RULES AND LIABILITIES.
10:04:16AM IT APPLIES SCIENTIFIC CRITERIA, STANDARDS, AND MEASURES FOR
10:04:19AM REMOVAL AND MITIGATION.
10:04:21AM IT CLARIFIES THE REQUIREMENTS AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR USE BY
10:04:24AM GOVERNING BODIES AS OPPOSED TO JUST OPINIONS.
10:04:28AM AND IT INCREASES THE SCOPE OF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL THAT
10:04:32AM STAFF CAN GRANT, BUT THAT'S BASED ON SCIENCE AND PRECEDENT
10:04:34AM DECISIONS.
10:04:35AM SO THOSE ARE THE SUMMARY REASONS WHY AFTER THREE YEARS, I
10:04:38AM SAY, LET'S GET THIS THING PASSED, PLEASE.
10:04:41AM I SENT YOU ALL A LETTER.
10:04:43AM I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOUR ATTORNEY HERE SO THAT IT'S
10:04:47AM OFFICIALLY IN THE RECORD.
10:04:48AM I SENT THIS TO YOU.
10:04:49AM IT'S ONE OF ABOUT A DOZEN LETTERS I'VE SENT YOU OVER THE
10:04:53AM THREE YEARS.
10:04:54AM I HOPE THE NEXT TIME I'M HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
10:04:57AM SOMETHING OTHER THAN THIS TREE ORDINANCE.
10:04:58AM LASTLY, AS I SAID IN EVERY ONE OF THE LETTERS I'VE DRAFTED
10:05:01AM TO YOU THAT IN SIX MONTHS AFTER THE ADOPTION, WE SHOULD HAVE
10:05:04AM A STRUCTURED PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE IMPACT OF THIS.
10:05:07AM SO IF THESE LITTLE THINGS WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT HERE TODAY AT
10:05:10AM THE LAST MINUTE THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AD NAUSEAM ARE
10:05:14AM REALLY A PROBLEM, IN SIX MONTHS WE SHOULD CHANGE IT.
10:05:16AM BUT TODAY, WE SHOULD PASS THIS THING THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING
10:05:20AM TO BIRTH LONGER THAN AN ELEPHANT'S GESTATION, AND I KNOW
10:05:23AM SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF MY WORK AT THE ZOO.
10:05:25AM I'M A LITTLE MORE FUN THAN MY NORMAL SENSE BECAUSE I'M
10:05:31AM LOSING PATIENCE.
10:05:32AM LET'S GET THIS DONE.
10:05:33AM THANK YOU.
10:05:33AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:05:36AM >> I'M KRISTA METCALF, 117 WEST NORTH STREET.
10:05:40AM I CANNOT BE AS ELOQUENT AS THAT.
10:05:43AM BUT I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:05:47AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
10:05:48AM WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A BEAUTIFUL TREE CANOPY, AND
10:05:51AM WE WISH TO PRESERVE IT.
10:05:53AM WE'VE SENT LETTERS TO ALL OF YOU SUPPORTING THE PASSAGE OF
10:05:59AM THIS NEW REVISED TREE CODE.
10:06:00AM WE LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
10:06:02AM WE BELIEVE IT WILL HELP PRESERVE THE URBAN FOREST THAT WE
10:06:05AM HAVE IN TAMPA THAT IS SO ATTRACTIVE TO OUR HOMEOWNERS AND
10:06:09AM FUTURE HOMEOWNERS.
10:06:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:06:16AM MY NAME IS NANCY STEPHENS.
10:06:18AM 505 ERIE AVE.
10:06:22AM TODAY, I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE 19,000 SUPPORTERS
10:06:27AM AND MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA SIERRA CLUB.
10:06:30AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.
10:06:32AM WE URGE TO YOU PASS IT.
10:06:35AM I DID SEND A LETTER AS WELL.
10:06:38AM I WASN'T GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING BUT I AM BECAUSE I
10:06:40AM WANT THIS PASSED TODAY.
10:06:41AM WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING ON IT AND WE FULLY SUPPORT IT.
10:06:48AM -- THE TAMPA ORDINANCE -- CITY'S NATURAL RESOURCES, LEGAL
10:06:51AM DEPARTMENTS AND WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE TREE
10:06:53AM ADVOCATES AND THE BUILDERS.
10:06:54AM WE'VE HAD MANY MEETINGS.
10:06:55AM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
10:06:57AM IT'S BALANCED TO PROTECT TAMPA'S TREES WHILE ALLOWING
10:07:01AM RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS, BUILDERS TO USE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY
10:07:04AM UNDER THE AUSPICES OF AND IN CONCERT WITH THE CITY'S
10:07:07AM OVERSIGHT AND SUPERVISION.
10:07:08AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ORDINANCE AND
10:07:12AM INCREASED ENFORCEMENT AND MONITORING OF THE TREE CODE
10:07:15AM MITIGATION.
10:07:15AM AS MARY LOU AS WELL POINTED OUT, WE SHOULD HAVE A REVIEW OF
10:07:20AM THIS IN SIX MONTHS, IF SOME OF THE CHANGES ARE NOT
10:07:23AM SUFFICIENTLY PROTECTING THE IMPORTANT TREE CANOPY OF TAMPA,
10:07:27AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL AND OTHERS TO
10:07:29AM MAKE CHANGES.
10:07:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:38AM >> CYNTHIA DUNCAN, LIKE TO THANK HONORABLE COUNCIL FOR
10:07:41AM WORKING WITH US A VERY LONG TIME ON THIS TREE CODE.
10:07:44AM I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT MS. BAILEY SAID THAT WE NEED TO
10:07:47AM PASS THIS TODAY AND TAKE A CLOSE HARD LOOK AT IT IN SIX
10:07:50AM MONTHS, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN DIRECTED BY THE COUNCIL.
10:07:53AM AS FAR AS THE TREE TRIMMING, I KNOW YOU ALL REMEMBER 7
10:07:57AM FEBRUARY -- I DO --
10:07:58AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:07:58AM -- AND YOU AGREED THAT LIMBS -- TREES OVER 24-INCH DIAMETER,
10:08:02AM SPECIMEN TREES WITH LIMBS OVER FOUR INCHES SHOULD REQUIRE A
10:08:05AM PERMIT.
10:08:05AM MS. BECK HAS BRIEFED US REPEATEDLY THAT TAMPA LOSES A LOT OF
10:08:09AM TREES THROUGH IMPROPER PRUNING.
10:08:10AM IT DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD TO TRY TO PROTECT OUR CANOPY IF WE
10:08:14AM ALLOW TREES TO BE MADE HAZARDOUS THROUGH IMPROPER PRUNING.
10:08:18AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY PLEASE LEAVE THAT AS IT IS.
10:08:21AM AS FOR THE MITIGATION, WE REMEMBER THE BIG, NICE BRIEFING WE
10:08:25AM GOT ON THE MITIGATION, AND I CAN'T SPEAK AS ELOQUENTLY AS
10:08:28AM MR. SAMNECK, THE GUY IN THE BOW TIE, WHO KNOWS A LOT MORE
10:08:32AM ABOUT TREES THAN I DO.
10:08:33AM BUT THE MITIGATION STRATEGY WAS BASED ON NOT INCHES OF WOOD.
10:08:38AM IT WAS BASED ON HOW MANY TREES AT 2.5 CALIPER DO YOU HAVE TO
10:08:42AM PLANT TO REPLACE THE CANOPY OF THE TREE THAT WAS REMOVED IN
10:08:46AM A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD?
10:08:47AM MS. BECK JUST SAID, A TWO INCH TREE WILL TAKE ANOTHER YEAR
10:08:53AM TO BECOME A 2.5-INCH, MAYBE TWO YEARS.
10:08:55AM IT VARIES WITH THE TREES, RIGHT?
10:08:57AM IF WE GO DOWN ON THE CALIPER, WE'RE NOT REPLACING THE CANOPY
10:09:00AM IN FIVE YEARS.
10:09:01AM IT'S NOW GOING TO BE SIX OR SEVEN.
10:09:03AM SO IF THERE'S A CONCERN AND SOMEBODY COMES FORWARD WITH SOME
10:09:09AM ESTIMATES FROM A NEW NUMBER OF NURSERIES THAT SAYS, HEY,
10:09:13AM THIS IS HOW MUCH THE TREES COST.
10:09:15AM I BELIEVE IT'S 2.5-INCH AND 30-GALLON.
10:09:18AM THE LAST VERSION OF THE CODE I LOOKED AT, AND WE WENT ROUND
10:09:22AM AND ROUND ABOUT THIS WAS 2.5 AND 30.
10:09:24AM IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH ESTIMATES THAT IT'S COMPLETELY
10:09:28AM ONEROUS TO REPLACE THE TREES WITH 2.5, THEN WE NEED TO
10:09:31AM RELOOK THAT.
10:09:33AM AS SOON AS THE FACTS ARE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
10:09:35AM BUT PLEASE PASS THIS CODE TODAY AS IS WITHOUT FURTHER
10:09:38AM CHANGES, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH NATURAL
10:09:42AM RESOURCES AND THE NEW COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE ON THIS.
10:09:46AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:09:52AM MIKE PETERSON ON BEHALF OF THE GREATER TAMPA REALTORS.
10:09:55AM AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THE PROCESS, AS YOU HAVE,
10:09:59AM A VERY LONG TIME.
10:10:00AM WE'VE REVIEWED THE FINAL PROPOSAL AND ARE IN SUPPORT.
10:10:04AM I DO BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS A SIX-MONTH REVIEW TO SEE HOW
10:10:07AM THINGS ARE WORKING IN THE MARKETPLACE IS WORTHY.
10:10:10AM BUT, FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A GREAT COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT
10:10:14AM BASED ON DEFENSIBLE SCIENCE.
10:10:17AM IT ADDS PREDICTABILITY FOR EVERYBODY.
10:10:19AM PERHAPS A FEW TWEAKS WILL COME DOWN THE LINE, BUT THIS HAS
10:10:22AM BEEN A GREAT EFFORT.
10:10:24AM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIVED THROUGH IT, IT'S BEEN KIND OF
10:10:26AM LIKE LIVING THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE SIGN
10:10:29AM ORDINANCE AND ALL THE OTHER THRILLS WE'VE HAD IN RECENT
10:10:31AM YEARS.
10:10:32AM THOSE OF YOU LEAVING, THANKS FOR WORKING WITH US, AND WE
10:10:35AM HOPE THIS GETS PASSED TODAY.
10:10:36AM THANK YOU.
10:10:39AM >>HARRY COHEN: YOU ARE THE SECOND SPEAKER THAT ACTUALLY SAID
10:10:41AM WE'RE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON SCIENCE.
10:10:44AM THAT IS REALLY A NOVEL -- A NOVEL PROPOSITION.
10:10:47AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IT TOOK ME NINE YEARS TO HEAR THAT.
10:10:49AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:10:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:10:53AM ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE, VICE-CHAIRMAN GREATER TAMPA POLITICAL
10:10:57AM AFFAIRS.
10:10:57AM ON BEHALF OF THE 11,855 MEMBERS, WE HAVE SPENT A TREMENDOUS
10:11:02AM AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS, AND ARE IN FULL SUPPORT.
10:11:06AM IT'S A FAIR BALANCE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, IS WHAT WE
10:11:09AM ADVOCATE FOR ALL HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE.
10:11:12AM CONSERVATION IS SIMPLY A SMART INVESTMENT.
10:11:16AM THESE TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF OUR LAND.
10:11:20AM IN CLOSING, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK KATHY BECK AND HER
10:11:25AM STAFF BECAUSE SHE'S JUST DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OVER 45
10:11:29AM YEARS.
10:11:30AM THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE TREE CANOPY THAT WE HAVE
10:11:32AM IN THIS CITY.
10:11:33AM THANK YOU.
10:11:39AM >> NATASHA GOODLEY, 2705 EAST 24th AVENUE.
10:11:43AM AS I'M A FAN OF CONSERVATION, AND I DO LOVE THE ORDINANCE, I
10:11:47AM WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE COST IT
10:11:52AM COULD PLACE ON SOME RESIDENTS.
10:11:53AM I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA, AND I HAD A DISEASED TREE IN MY YARD
10:11:58AM THAT HAD TO BE CUT DOWN.
10:11:59AM I KNOW FROM TRIMMING AND THEN CUTTING DOWN THE EXPENSES THAT
10:12:02AM I SPENT.
10:12:03AM I KNOW A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS COULD NOT AFFORD THAT,
10:12:06AM ESPECIALLY WITH THE -- ADDING THE PERMIT FOR THE TRIMMING OF
10:12:11AM TREES.
10:12:12AM SO POSSIBLY COMING BACK IN SIX MONTHS AND LOOKING AT IT,
10:12:15AM AGAIN, I'M A FAN OF IT, BUT I'D JUST LIKE US TO CONSIDER THE
10:12:19AM COST IT WOULD BE ON SOME RESIDENTS AS WELL AS DURING
10:12:22AM HURRICANE SEASON, IT MIGHT CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT
10:12:25AM PRUNING THEIR TREES FOR THE HURRICANE, BECAUSE IN MY
10:12:28AM NEIGHBORHOOD, WE LOST POWER FOR THREE DAYS, AND IT WASN'T
10:12:31AM BECAUSE OF ANYTHING BUT DEAD TREES THAT FELL ON POWER LINES.
10:12:34AM SO IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF CONSIDERATION THAT WE COULD
10:12:38AM AFFORD PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.
10:12:40AM THANK YOU.
10:12:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:12:55AM GARY BROWN, 491 SEVERN AVENUE.
10:13:01AM I'M HERE TO ALSO ECHO WHAT WAS JUST TOLD TO YOU.
10:13:04AM I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH WHAT MS. BAILEY SAID ABOUT HOW
10:13:09AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND YET DURING
10:13:12AM THIS TIME FRAME, WE'VE BEEN ASKING QUESTIONS, HOW MUCH WILL
10:13:15AM THIS COST THE CITY TO ADMINISTRATE AND WE'RE SPECIFICALLY
10:13:22AM TALKING ABOUT THIS PRUNING ISSUE.
10:13:24AM STAFF WOULD NEVER GIVE US AN ANSWER.
10:13:26AM ASK THOM SNELLING, KATHY BECK, CATHY COYLE, NOBODY WOULD
10:13:29AM REPLY.
10:13:30AM WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST TO IMPLEMENT THIS?
10:13:32AM SO BEING A VERY ORDINARY CITIZEN IN THE CITY, I WENT TO OUR
10:13:37AM URBAN CANOPY FOREST STUDY.
10:13:39AM AND OUT OF THAT STUDY CAME THIS INFORMATION.
10:13:42AM THERE ARE OVER 9 MILLION TREES IN THE CITY.
10:13:46AM OF THOSE, ABOUT 50% ARE ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
10:13:50AM SO THAT'S 186,000 TREES.
10:13:53AM IF ONLY 10% OF THOSE NEEDED TO BE PRUNED EACH YEAR, THAT'S
10:14:00AM 18,600 TREES.
10:14:03AM THERE ARE 250 INSPECTION DAYS A YEAR.
10:14:07AM THIS ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE TWO INSPECTIONS FOR THE
10:14:11AM PRUNING; ONE TO GO OUT AND TELL SOMEBODY WHERE TO CUT IT;
10:14:15AM AND THEN THE INSPECTOR TO GO BACK AND SEE IF THEY CUT IT
10:14:18AM CORRECTLY.
10:14:18AM SO IF YOU MULTIPLY THOSE 74 INSPECTION DAYS BY TWO, THAT
10:14:22AM COMES TO THE 149 INSPECTION DAYS, AND IN AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY,
10:14:29AM OUR INSPECTORS CURRENTLY CAN HANDLE ABOUT 15 INSPECTIONS A
10:14:32AM DAY.
10:14:34AM DO THE MATH.
10:14:35AM THAT'S TEN FULL-TIME INSPECTORS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HIRED
10:14:39AM BY NATURAL RESOURCES WHO CURRENTLY CANNOT KEEP UP WITH WHAT
10:14:44AM THEY HAVE ON THEIR PLATE.
10:14:45AM SO, I AGREE.
10:14:46AM IN SIX MONTHS, WE CAN COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS.
10:14:49AM STAFF NEEDS TO REPORT TO COUNCIL WHAT IS THE COST OF THIS,
10:14:53AM AND THEY ARE NOT DOING IT.
10:14:55AM IF THEY DO IT AND EVERYBODY AGREES AND IT'S NOT ONEROUS,
10:15:00AM COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT PASSES THESE BUDGETS, THEN PASS IT.
10:15:03AM BUT YOU DON'T KNOW.
10:15:05AM YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION YOU DON'T HAVE THE
10:15:08AM FACTS.
10:15:08AM THREE YEARS, YOU'D THINK YOU'D HAVE THE FACTS.
10:15:13AM OKAY?
10:15:13AM VERY QUICKLY ON THE TWO TO TWO AND A HALF INCH CALIPER, IT'S
10:15:18AM BEEN TWO INCHES FOR YEARS.
10:15:19AM IT'S WORKED.
10:15:20AM IF YOU CALL ANY GROWER, THEY'LL TELL YOU IT TAKES ABOUT SIX
10:15:23AM MONTHS TO GROW A TREE FROM TWO TO TWO AND A HALF INCH
10:15:27AM CALIPER.
10:15:28AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
10:15:30AM OKAY.
10:15:30AM WHEN IT GETS TO TWO AND A HALF, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A
10:15:32AM DECISION, DO WE TAKE IT OUT OF A 30-GALLON POT AND MOVE IT
10:15:36AM INTO THE 45-GALLON POT, IN WHICH CASE THE COST GOES UP?
10:15:39AM WE DON'T CONTROL THE MARKETPLACE, BUT YOUR ORDINANCE WILL
10:15:41AM DICTATE TO THE MARKET THAT ISN'T CURRENTLY GROWING TWO AND A
10:15:45AM HALF INCH 30-GALLON TREES.
10:15:47AM IT'S GROWING TWO INCH 30-GALLON TREES AND THEY GROW JUST
10:15:50AM ENOUGH TO SELL AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN.
10:15:53AM OKAY?
10:15:53AM SO PASS IT THE WAY IT IS, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO BUY THESE
10:15:57AM TREES.
10:15:57AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
10:15:58AM THANK YOU.
10:16:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK STAFF A QUESTION.
10:16:04AM LET ME ASK YOU, HAS A COST ANALYSIS BEEN DONE BASED ON THE
10:16:15AM CHANGE IN THIS ORDINANCE?
10:16:17AM >>KRISTIN MORA: IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT MIGHT NEED
10:16:20AM TO BE UTILIZED?
10:16:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE HAVE A COST ANALYSIS PREPARED BY
10:16:24AM STAFF?
10:16:25AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I AM NOT AWARE OF A COST ANALYSIS THAT HAS
10:16:27AM BEEN DONE ON IT.
10:16:28AM I KNOW THERE IS AN OPEN POSITION THAT NATURAL RESOURCES HAS
10:16:31AM THAT THEY ARE HOPING TO ADD SOMEONE ABOVE WHAT THEY ALREADY
10:16:36AM HAVE.
10:16:36AM THAT POSITION IS ALREADY APPROVED.
10:16:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BUT THAT IS BASED ON ONE PERSON.
10:16:40AM THEY GOT ONE POSITION, CORRECT?
10:16:41AM >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT IS ONE POSITION THEY ARE ADDING, YES.
10:16:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:16:44AM DO YOU AGREE TO WHAT WE JUST SEEN ON THE SCREEN TALKING
10:16:47AM ABOUT TEN POSITION -- FULL-TIME POSITIONS?
10:16:49AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BETTER FOR
10:16:52AM MS. BECK TO TRY TO ANSWER, SINCE IT'S HER DEPARTMENT.
10:16:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:17:00AM KATHY BECK.
10:17:00AM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE NUMBERS THAT MR. BROWN JUST
10:17:03AM PRESENTED YOU ARE A LITTLE SKEWED IN THAT THE ANALYSIS THAT
10:17:06AM HE'S REFERENCING, THE 9 MILLION TREES, WHEN THAT ANALYSIS
10:17:11AM WAS DONE, THOSE TREES ARE MEASURED AT ONE-INCH DIAMETER.
10:17:14AM AND SO WE'RE MEASURING -- THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE RED
10:17:19AM MANGROVE.
10:17:19AM IT DOESN'T REPRESENT THE POPULATION OF TREES THAT WE WOULD
10:17:23AM BE REGULATING.
10:17:24AM BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE NOT DONE A COST
10:17:27AM ANALYSIS.
10:17:27AM AND WE'RE LOOKING AT STRATEGIES TO PROVIDE AN AFFIDAVIT FOR
10:17:31AM PRUNING TREES THAT SHOULD OFFSET THE INSPECTION REQUIREMENT.
10:17:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, LET ME SUGGEST THAT --
10:17:40AM >> YES, SIR.
10:17:40AM >>FRANK REDDICK: -- THAT A COST ANALYSIS BE DONE WITHIN THIS
10:17:42AM SIX-MONTH PERIOD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:17:45AM COME BACK AND REVIEW THIS IN SIX MONTHS.
10:17:47AM I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A COST ANALYSIS PREPARED FOR THE
10:17:51AM NEXT SIX MONTHS TO DETERMINE IS THIS FEASIBLE OR HOW MUCH
10:17:57AM THIS IS COSTING THE CITY AND WHETHER IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE
10:18:01AM CITY BASED ON THE COST.
10:18:02AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAS TO BE A MOTION OR JUST A REQUEST.
10:18:10AM >>HARRY COHEN: WHEN WE GET READY TO TAKE ACTION, WHY DON'T
10:18:13AM WE FOLD ALL THESE THINGS UP INTO ONE ADDITIONAL MOTION?
10:18:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:18:17AM THAT WOULD BE FINE.
10:18:18AM YES, MA'AM.
10:18:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:18:20AM TWO QUESTIONS, ONE FOR YOU.
10:18:22AM YOU JUST STATED THAT THE COUNT WAS -- MOST OF THEM WERE RED
10:18:28AM MANGROVE.
10:18:30AM >> YES, MA'AM.
10:18:32AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: DO THEY NOT ADD TO THE CANOPY?
10:18:36AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:18:36AM BUT THEY ARE NOT UNDER OUR JURISDICTION.
10:18:38AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ASKED THAT QUESTION A LONG, LONG TIME AGO.
10:18:40AM IF IT'S GREEN AND HAS A LEAF --
10:18:42AM >> YES, MA'AM.
10:18:43AM IT CONTRIBUTES QUITE A BIT.
10:18:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT?
10:18:46AM >> THERE'S --
10:18:48AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHEN YOU SAID IT'S SKEWED.
10:18:51AM >> WE DO NOT REGULATE RED MANGROVE FOR PRUNING, AND THEY
10:18:53AM DON'T GET TO BE THE SIZE.
10:18:55AM THEY ARE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF OTHER AGENCIES.
10:18:57AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: OKAY.
10:18:57AM THANK YOU.
10:18:58AM NOW, SOMETHING FOR LEGAL.
10:19:00AM THANK YOU.
10:19:01AM MUCH APPRECIATED.
10:19:02AM WHERE DID SHE GO?
10:19:06AM LET ME ASK YOU, SINCE -- YOU WERE UP, I THOUGHT I'D ASK
10:19:15AM THEM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY BOTHERING ME IS THAT
10:19:20AM THE PRIVATE -- IS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY PART, WHICH WAS
10:19:24AM STATED THAT IF THOSE THREE WORDS WERE REMOVED, IT WOULD NOT
10:19:30AM AFFECT THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
10:19:36AM WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
10:19:38AM >>KRISTIN MORA: ARE YOU SPEAKING REGARDING THE PRUNING OF
10:19:39AM THE SPECIMEN TREES?
10:19:41AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:19:42AM >>KRISTIN MORA: SO --
10:19:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU.
10:19:47AM >>KRISTIN MORA: -- WHAT'S AT ISSUE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS
10:19:50AM THAT AT PRESENT -- AT PRESENT, THE CITY REQUIRES A PRUNING
10:19:54AM PERMIT FOR GRAND TREE LIMBS AND PROTECTED TREE LIMBS GREATER
10:19:57AM THAN FOUR INCHES OVER CITY PROPERTY OR RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:19:59AM THE ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IS A SPECIMEN TREE LIMBS
10:20:05AM OF GREATER THAN FOUR INCHES OVER PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:20:07AM IF CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO REMOVE IT, THAT IS A CHANGE I
10:20:12AM BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE HERE AT SECOND READING AND STILL GET
10:20:14AM THIS READ TODAY.
10:20:15AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:20:16AM THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
10:20:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:20:19AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:20:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:20:27AM MY NAME IS JOE CHILLURA, I HAVE THE INFAMOUS REPUTATION OF
10:20:35AM HAVING WRITTEN THE TREE LAW IN 1972 AND SOME OF THESE SAME
10:20:38AM QUESTIONS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, CAME UP DURING THOSE TIMES.
10:20:41AM INCIDENTALLY, CHARLIE MIRANDA WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.
10:20:45AM HE'S A LOT OLDER THAN I AM.
10:20:46AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:20:47AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS STRAIGHT ON THAT.
10:20:49AM BUT I HAVE MADE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO TREE SOMETHING, SAY
10:20:54AM SOMETHING GROUP THAT CHELSEA JOHNSON BEHIND US ME HEADS UP.
10:20:58AM AND THEY'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF IMPROVING AN
10:21:04AM ORDINANCE THAT WAS IN A VERY EMBRYONIC STAGE BACK IN THOSE
10:21:07AM DAYS IN 1972.
10:21:08AM WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME PASSING IT, AND WE FINALLY PASSED
10:21:13AM IT.
10:21:13AM I THINK ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ARE CERTAINLY
10:21:17AM LEGITIMATE.
10:21:18AM BUT I WANT TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE THE CHANGES THAT THEY
10:21:20AM HAVE MADE AND URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS SECOND READING AND
10:21:26AM ANY AMENDMENTS THAT YOU BRING UP THAT I HEARD AND THAT WE'RE
10:21:30AM IN DISCUSSION, CERTAINLY AREN'T ANYTHING THAT ARE GOING TO
10:21:34AM DEVASTATE THE ORDINANCE.
10:21:37AM BUT IT'S HELD UP SINCE '72.
10:21:38AM FRANKLY, I'M PROUD OF IT.
10:21:40AM AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE IT YOUR
10:21:44AM WHOLEHEARTED SUPPORT.
10:21:45AM THANK YOU.
10:21:54AM >> GOOD EVENING -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:21:56AM THIS IS JERRY FRANKHOUSER, THAN PRESIDENT.
10:22:00AM I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING UP WITH US WITH
10:22:02AM THIS TREE ORDINANCE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
10:22:06AM THAN HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE TREE ORDINANCES FOR AS LONG AS
10:22:10AM WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE, 30 YEARS NOW.
10:22:12AM WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN FOR TREES.
10:22:15AM AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.
10:22:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:22:28AM MY NAME IS LORRAINE PERINO.
10:22:32AM I'M WITH THE DAVIS ISLANDS CIVIC ASSOCIATION TREE PROTECTION
10:22:34AM AND RESTORATION COMMITTEE.
10:22:35AM THIS REWRITTEN TREE ORDINANCE HAS THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE
10:22:38AM DAVIS ISLANDS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE DAVIS ISLAND GARDEN
10:22:42AM CLUB, AND OTHER GARDEN CLUBS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:22:45AM THIS REWRITTEN TREE ORDINANCE HAS TAKEN 13 LONG MONTHS TO
10:22:50AM NEGOTIATE, IN CONCERT WITH THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS, THE TAMPA
10:22:53AM BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, THE TREE ADVOCATES AND CITY STAFF.
10:22:59AM IT HAS BEEN A LONG, ARDUOUS PROCESS OF MEETINGS,
10:23:02AM NEGOTIATIONS AND COMPROMISE INVOLVING HUNDREDS OF HOURS
10:23:06AM BETWEEN THESE ENTITIES.
10:23:07AM THE TREE ORDINANCE REWRITE WILL PROTECT TAMPA'S URBAN FOREST
10:23:10AM FOR DECADES TO COME.
10:23:13AM IT HAS ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED AND AGREED UPON, AND TAMPA
10:23:16AM CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO VOTE TO PASS IT TODAY.
10:23:19AM IT WILL FOREVER BE TO YOUR CREDIT AS THIS CITY COUNCIL'S
10:23:25AM OUTGOING LEGACY.
10:23:26AM THANK YOU.
10:23:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:23:34AM CHELSEA JOHNSON, 3313 HOME COURT IN TAMPA.
10:23:37AM THANK YOU ALL.
10:23:40AM I'M GOING TO MISS THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LEAVING, AND WE
10:23:44AM APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT LISTENING TO US
10:23:46AM THE PAST -- FOR ME THE PAST YEAR.
10:23:49AM FOR SOME OF YOU, YOU'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS LONGER THAN
10:23:53AM THAT.
10:23:53AM I DON'T THINK THAT THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION CAN BE
10:23:55AM OVERSTATED TODAY.
10:23:57AM I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HALF-INCH
10:24:00AM DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND ALSO WHETHER
10:24:03AM WE ARE ALLOWED TO PRUNE TREES ON OUR PROPERTY.
10:24:06AM BUT TODAY IS A NEARLY 40-YEAR -- IT'S A HISTORICAL
10:24:10AM COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND
10:24:12AM THE BUILDERS.
10:24:13AM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN AROUND.
10:24:15AM THE TBBA.
10:24:18AM THE TREE ADVOCATES, WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE SIERRA CLUB.
10:24:21AM WE HAVE CITIZEN ACTIVISTS.
10:24:22AM WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS AND VOLUNTEERS
10:24:24AM AND CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS.
10:24:25AM WE ALSO HAVE THE GREATER TAMPA AREA REALTORS AND THE
10:24:29AM BUILDERS HERE MOSTLY TO SUPPORT THIS CODE.
10:24:32AM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE JUST WEREN'T
10:24:36AM ABLE TO AGREE ON.
10:24:37AM I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT.
10:24:38AM WE'VE HAD CITY STAFF COME UP AND GIVE THEIR EXPERTISE, BUT,
10:24:42AM AGAIN, THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION OVER THE PAST YEAR JUST
10:24:45AM CANNOT BE OVERSTATED TODAY.
10:24:46AM I DO REQUEST THAT WE HAVE A SIX-MONTH REVIEW AFTER THE
10:24:50AM IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS CODE TODAY, ASSUMING THAT YOU ALL
10:24:53AM WILL PASS IT.
10:24:54AM I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.
10:24:59AM WE DO HAVE TO PRESERVE OUR TREES WHILE ALLOWING FOR GROWTH.
10:25:03AM IF WE CANNOT PRESERVE THEM, WE MUST BE REPLACING THE CANOPY
10:25:07AM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
10:25:08AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO OUR BEST, TO DO THIS TO THE BEST OF OUR
10:25:11AM ABILITY.
10:25:12AM THERE ARE THINGS WE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL,
10:25:16AM POSSIBLY TWO INCH TREES ARE ALL THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
10:25:19AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:25:19AM WE CAN REVIEW THAT IN SIX MONTHS, BUT WE SHOULD ALWAYS TRY
10:25:22AM FOR OUR BEST.
10:25:23AM THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE CITY IS BEHIND WHEN IT COMES TO
10:25:26AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:25:27AM HOWEVER, OUR PRICELESS TREES DESERVE AT LEAST THE VERY BEST
10:25:31AM PROTECTIONS THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM TO THE BEST OF OUR
10:25:33AM ABILITY.
10:25:34AM THERE ARE ALREADY THINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ON
10:25:39AM YOUR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:25:40AM WHY SHOULD TREES GET, SO TO SPEAK, THE SHORT END OF THE
10:25:44AM STICK?
10:25:45AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:25:46AM I WANT TO THANK THE BUILDERS, CITY STAFF AND THE TREE
10:25:48AM ADVOCATES FOR THE MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS OF COLLABORATION.
10:25:52AM JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING AT NEIGHBORHOOD
10:25:54AM ASSOCIATIONS, AND I SPOKE AT THAN RECENTLY.
10:25:57AM THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS CODE AT THIS STAGE.
10:26:01AM THANK YOU AGAIN.
10:26:03AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: VERY QUICKLY HERE, I TEND TO AGREE THAT THE
10:26:08AM SIZE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 30-GALLON, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING
10:26:14AM THERE THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO CHANGE.
10:26:19AM HOWEVER, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY IS NOT SO MUCH THE PRIVATE
10:26:21AM PROPERTY AS LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD -- CANNOT
10:26:27AM AFFORD AND WILL NOT AFFORD.
10:26:30AM THEY ARE LOOKING AT BETWEEN PAYING THEIR RENT OR BUYING FOOD
10:26:33AM AND PAYING FOR A PERMIT TO TRIM A TREE.
10:26:36AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:26:37AM IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:26:38AM WE HAVE MANY, MANY NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT. SO THAT PART OF
10:26:47AM IT, FOR THAT REASON, AND ONLY THAT REASON, I AM CONCERNED
10:26:51AM ABOUT BECAUSE I LIVE IN AN AREA OF WEST TAMPA THAT I KNOW
10:26:59AM MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.
10:27:03AM IT'S A CHOICE.
10:27:06AM EITHER ILLEGALLY DO IT AND THEN THEY WILL BE FINED, WHICH WE
10:27:10AM WILL NEVER COLLECT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
10:27:12AM SO THAT PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND SINCE
10:27:18AM IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE MOVING FORWARD, I
10:27:23AM WOULD SAY LIKE TO SEE THOSE THREE WORDS REMOVED.
10:27:26AM AND NOT IN SIX MONTHS.
10:27:28AM NOW.
10:27:28AM AND THEN IN SIX MONTHS, IF THEY SEE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE
10:27:32AM THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK IN, THEN PUT IT BACK IN.
10:27:34AM THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT.
10:27:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:27:38AM ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
10:27:40AM ALL RIGHT.
10:27:43AM COUNCIL?
10:27:44AM YOU GOT ANYTHING FINALLY YOU NEED TO SAY?
10:27:48AM >>KRISTIN MORA: NOTHING FURTHER, COUNCIL.
10:27:50AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT SOME CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE,
10:27:52AM THEN PLEASE DIRECT ME TO DO SO BY MOTION, AND I CAN RUN
10:27:55AM UPSTAIRS, MAKE THE CHANGES AND THEN RETURN IT FOR SECOND
10:27:58AM READING, IF YOU HAVE CHANGES.
10:28:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AND DECIDE WHAT
10:28:04AM COUNCIL WISHES TO DO.
10:28:06AM NEXT THURSDAY THAT BEING OUR LAST DAY ON THIS COUNCIL, WE
10:28:13AM WON'T BE TALKING TREES.
10:28:14AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:28:17AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THAT'S RIGHT.
10:28:18AM WE WILL NOT BE TALKING TREES.
10:28:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET'S OPEN IT FOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:28:23AM ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
10:28:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I SUPPORT THIS ENTITLEMENT,
10:28:28AM AS LONG AS -- THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
10:28:30AM DIFFERENT FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE ROOF REPAIRS
10:28:33AM SOMETIMES AND SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
10:28:35AM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF ROOFS THAT NEED REPAIRING.
10:28:38AM BUT SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, I'M CONCERNED WITH WHAT MS. CAPIN
10:28:43AM SAID REGARDING THE INDIVIDUAL WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE
10:28:45AM MONEY.
10:28:46AM AS YOU WELL KNOW, OVER 40% OF AMERICANS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
10:28:49AM FOR A $400 EMERGENCY.
10:28:51AM OVER 60% OF AMERICANS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR
10:28:53AM $1,000 EMERGENCY.
10:28:55AM SO I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, BUT IT'S A NECESSITY
10:28:59AM TO BALANCE THE COSTS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING.
10:29:03AM BUT HOW DO WE HANDLE INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE THE MONEY
10:29:08AM TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE?
10:29:10AM IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THAT?
10:29:14AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE DO.
10:29:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THINKING WHAT WE KNOW, THAT THERE'S 3.2
10:29:21AM BILLION OF ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED
10:29:24AM UNDERGROUND LINES, TERTIARY TREATED WATER, AND DRINKING
10:29:28AM WATER, THAT'S A BIGGIE.
10:29:32AM THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
10:29:34AM I DON'T WANT TO POUNCE ON SOMEBODY THAT'S TRYING TO GET OUT
10:29:36AM AND HAVE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR FAMILY, TO START PUSHING
10:29:39AM THEM DOWN.
10:29:40AM I'M NOT SAYING I'M PUSHING THEM DOWN.
10:29:42AM IT'S NOT HELPING THEM.
10:29:43AM HOW DO I BALANCE THAT OUT?
10:29:45AM THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.
10:29:47AM ALTHOUGH I'LL SUPPORT IT, I WANT TO REVIEW IT IN SIX MONTHS
10:29:52AM AND SEE WHERE THE AREAS ARE AND SEE HOW MUCH -- ARE YOU
10:30:01AM GOING TO TICKET THE PEOPLE?
10:30:02AM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
10:30:03AM GIVE THEM A TICKET?
10:30:04AM AND THEN WHAT?
10:30:06AM THEY GOT TO GO TO COURT?
10:30:08AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:30:08AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO.
10:30:13AM >>KRISTIN MORA: IT'S TYPICALLY HANDLED THROUGH THE CODE
10:30:15AM ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
10:30:16AM >>MAYOR BUCKHORN: YEAH.
10:30:17AM WHERE DOES IT END UP?
10:30:18AM >>KRISTIN MORA: IF IT'S RESOLVED AT CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEN
10:30:20AM RESOLVED THERE.
10:30:21AM OTHERWISE THEY COULD TAKE IT TO COURT.
10:30:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROBLEM IS WE MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO
10:30:26AM GET AN ATTORNEY; THEY DON'T.
10:30:27AM DO WE FURNISH THEM AN ATTORNEY?
10:30:30AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:30:30AM I DON'T THINK SO.
10:30:30AM IT'S FAIRLY SIMPLE.
10:30:35AM I'M NOT AGAINST TREES, BUT I LIKE TO HELP THE PUBLIC TO HAVE
10:30:40AM AN EVEN KEEL.
10:30:41AM SOME MONEY SOMEWHERE THAT YOU CAN TELL US WHERE IT'S AT, BUT
10:30:44AM I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.
10:30:47AM MAYBE WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE UNDER THE SHIP
10:30:50AM PROGRAM.
10:30:50AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:30:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:30:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: NO.
10:31:00AM WE CAN TALK DURING IT.
10:31:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHO IS NEXT?
10:31:05AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I GUESS IT'S ME, MR. CHAIR.
10:31:07AM THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA AND
10:31:11AM MS. CAPIN'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS.
10:31:13AM IT IS INCUMBENT UPON YOURSELF, MR. VIERA, MR. MANISCALCO,
10:31:18AM WHOEVER ELSE GETS ELECTED TO THE NEXT TO DEAL WITH THOSE
10:31:21AM ISSUES.
10:31:22AM WE HAVE, AS A COUNCIL OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, BEEN GOOD
10:31:25AM STEWARDS OF OUR MONEY AND THE MAYOR HAS CROWED ABOUT THE
10:31:29AM FACT THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A GOOD BUDGET YEAR THIS YEAR.
10:31:32AM MAYBE THERE IS A SOLUTION BASED ON THAT.
10:31:34AM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCES AND YOU'RE TALKING
10:31:37AM ABOUT A LARGE PORTION OF THIS -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHOEVER IS
10:31:44AM GOING TO READ THIS, ONE WHOLE PAGE, WE USUALLY DON'T SEE
10:31:47AM THIS AS TITLE.
10:31:48AM THAT'S THE TITLE, NOT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
10:31:51AM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
10:31:55AM ADVOCATES AND OUR TREE ADVOCATES, WITH THE TAMPA BAY
10:31:57AM BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, WITH EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS AN
10:32:01AM INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THE TREE ORDINANCE IS NOT ONLY FAIR,
10:32:03AM BUT IS PROTECTING THE MAIN THING THAT WE STARTED THE
10:32:08AM DISCUSSION ABOUT, WHICH IS THE CANOPY ITSELF.
10:32:10AM IT ISN'T ONLY ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
10:32:13AM IT IS ALSO ABOUT THE OVERARCHING REASON WHY WE'RE DOING IT.
10:32:16AM TREES BRING A LOT MORE BENEFIT THAN JUST OXYGEN.
10:32:22AM THEY MAKE NEIGHBORHOODS COMPLETE.
10:32:24AM IT IS NOT ONLY THE FAMILIES AND THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN
10:32:29AM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S ALSO THE AMBIENCE OF WHAT A TREE
10:32:33AM BRINGS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:32:35AM AND I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
10:32:36AM IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE SPECIFICS, I THINK THAT THE NEXT
10:32:39AM COUNCIL I THINK WILL DO A GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF TRYING TO
10:32:41AM FIGURE IT OUT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE
10:32:44AM MEMBERS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AND I
10:32:47AM KNOW THEY WILL BE VERY DILIGENT OF MAKING SURE THAT IT IS
10:32:52AM APPLIED FAIRLY AND HAVE SOME RECOURSE FOR FOLKS THAT MIGHT
10:32:56AM NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE TREE TRIMMING AND
10:32:59AM I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ANSWER.
10:33:01AM I'M WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
10:33:03AM I WANT TO THANK ALL THE ADVOCATES ON ALL SIDES COMING UP
10:33:07AM WITH SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE FOR ALL OF US.
10:33:09AM IT WAS A MIND-NUMBINGLY AWFUL PROCESS BEFORE THE GROUPS GOT
10:33:13AM TOGETHER AND MADE THE DECISION AS TO HOW THEY WERE GOING TO
10:33:17AM PUT THIS FORWARD.
10:33:19AM THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND MS. BECK, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE
10:33:22AM GOING TO BE LEAVING SOON.
10:33:23AM YOU'RE GOING TO BE RETIRING, AND I HOPE YOU GO TO A TREE
10:33:27AM FARM SOMEWHERE.
10:33:28AM IF YOU END UP IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S ALL CONCRETE, I'M NOT
10:33:32AM SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
10:33:33AM WE HOPE YOU DO THAT.
10:33:35AM THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, MS. MORA, WHO
10:33:38AM ACTUALLY WAS THE LEAD ON THIS.
10:33:40AM THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
10:33:41AM THANK YOU ALL FOR PERSEVERING IN TERMS OF THIS AND THANKS
10:33:45AM FOR EVERYONE BEING HERE TODAY TO SEE HOPEFULLY THE FINAL
10:33:49AM RESOLUTION OF THIS BEFORE WE LEAVE COUNCIL.
10:33:51AM THANK YOU.
10:33:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
10:33:52AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:53AM YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERY COUNCIL
10:33:57AM THAT GETS A FOUR-YEAR LEASE FROM THE CITIZENS TO TACKLE SOME
10:34:01AM OF THE BIG ISSUES.
10:34:05AM WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH STORMWATER.
10:34:07AM WE HAVE DONE IT WITH THE SIGN CODE.
10:34:09AM WE HAVE DONE IT WITH DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:34:11AM AND THIS TREE ORDINANCE DEFINITELY IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
10:34:14AM AND SO I JUST WANT TO COMMEND EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON IT FOR
10:34:17AM ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND ALSO THE COUNCIL.
10:34:19AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SUAREZ THAT IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE
10:34:24AM INCUMBENT ON THE THREE REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE
10:34:26AM HERE FOR THIS TO PICK UP THE BALL IN SIX MONTHS, BECAUSE IT
10:34:29AM DOES SOUND LIKE THERE IS A CONSENSUS FOR A SIX-MONTH REVIEW
10:34:33AM ONCE THIS ORDINANCE PASSES.
10:34:34AM AND I WANT TO ASSURE YOU I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO VOTE FOR IT
10:34:37AM AND BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
10:34:38AM WE HAVE ONE ISSUE LEFT.
10:34:40AM THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT A FOUR INCH IN DIAMETER LIMB OF
10:34:46AM A NON-GRAND TREE CAN BE PRUNED WITH OR WITHOUT A PERMIT.
10:34:51AM AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MS. BECK ALREADY LED US IN THE
10:34:58AM DIRECTION OF A COMPROMISE WITH WHAT SHE MENTIONED REGARDING
10:35:01AM HER IDEA WITH THE AFFIDAVIT.
10:35:02AM SO HOWEVER YOU CRAFT -- HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CRAFT THIS,
10:35:06AM WHETHER YOU WANT TO REMOVE OR KEEP THE LANGUAGE, WHATEVER,
10:35:08AM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE FIRST QUESTION THAT THE NEXT COUNCIL
10:35:12AM HAS TO ASK AT THEIR SIX-MONTH REVIEW IS GOING TO HAVE TO
10:35:16AM COME BACK TO THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE LAST THING WE
10:35:19AM GOT HUNG UP ON.
10:35:20AM BUT EITHER WAY, WHATEVER WE END UP DOING WITH THIS, THE
10:35:23AM ORDINANCE ITSELF I THINK IS A TREMENDOUS ACHIEVEMENT, A
10:35:27AM TREMENDOUS COMPROMISE, AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THE
10:35:31AM PRUNING ISSUE, YOU'LL COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, WE'LL SEE HOW
10:35:35AM IT'S WORKING, WHATEVER WE DECIDE, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
10:35:39AM I THINK THAT THE AFFIDAVIT IN LIEU OF AN INSPECTION, THE
10:35:43AM IDEA THAT SOMEONE WHO IS LICENSED CAN CERTIFY TO SOMETHING
10:35:47AM HAVING BEEN DONE CORRECTLY IS THE AVENUE WE OUGHT TO GO DOWN
10:35:53AM BECAUSE THAT WILL CUT THE COST WHICH IS WHAT I THINK
10:35:56AM COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN AND MIRANDA WERE EXPRESSING ABOUT, MAKING
10:36:00AM IT EASIER AND LESS EXPENSIVE AND ONEROUS.
10:36:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
10:36:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:36:05AM YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YEARS, EVERY TIME THIS CAME
10:36:07AM UP, I BROUGHT IT UP.
10:36:08AM EVERY SINGLE TIME.
10:36:10AM ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CANNOT AFFORD IT, WILL NOT DO
10:36:15AM IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO FINE THEM AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO
10:36:18AM COLLECT.
10:36:18AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRIMMING FOUR INCH WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE
10:36:24AM THEIR HUSBAND GET UP OR THEIR SON OR THEMSELVES GET UP ON A
10:36:28AM LADDER.
10:36:28AM I'VE SEEN MY SISTER DO THAT, AND NOW WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY
10:36:34AM HAVE TO HIRE AN ARBORIST.
10:36:37AM REALLY?
10:36:37AM IT ISN'T FAIR.
10:36:41AM IT IS NOT A FAIR -- IT IS.
10:36:44AM IT IS UNFAIR.
10:36:44AM IT'S OKAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT.
10:36:46AM IT IS NOT OKAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT.
10:36:49AM THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.
10:36:52AM CAN'T AFFORD AN ARBORIST.
10:36:53AM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:36:54AM WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE.
10:36:56AM SO MY POINT IS THIS.
10:36:59AM REMOVE THE WORDS, IN SIX MONTHS ADD THEM, IF YOU THINK IT
10:37:04AM NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
10:37:05AM NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
10:37:07AM WE HAVE TO CAUTION ON THE SIDE OF THE PEOPLE, AND THERE'S
10:37:09AM MANY, MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT CANNOT AFFORD AN
10:37:14AM ARBORIST, CANNOT AFFORD ANY OF THAT.
10:37:18AM THAT'S WHY TREES, YOU FIND THEM -- I MEAN, IN MY OLD
10:37:22AM NEIGHBORHOOD, A TREE FELL ON A HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS ROTTED
10:37:25AM AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE PERMIT AND THEY COULDN'T GET THE
10:37:28AM PERMIT AND THEY COULDN'T PAY TO TAKE THE TREE DOWN.
10:37:30AM I ASKED, WHAT DO WE DO -- WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.
10:37:36AM WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH ROTTED TREES
10:37:39AM BUT WE WILL GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND TELL THEM HOW TO TRIM
10:37:42AM A FOUR-INCH BRANCH.
10:37:43AM I ASKED THAT QUESTION -- YES, I DID.
10:37:46AM I ASKED THAT QUESTION TO MS. COYLE.
10:37:50AM I SAID, WHEN WE -- WHEN THERE ARE DANGEROUS TREES ON PRIVATE
10:37:55AM PROPERTY, DO WE GO IN?
10:37:57AM AND SHE SAID, NO, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:38:00AM THAT WAS HER ANSWER.
10:38:03AM WE CAN LOOK UP THE STATEMENT.
10:38:06AM BUT HERE'S THE POINT.
10:38:09AM IF YOU GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, ARE WE PAYING FOR THE TREE TO
10:38:11AM GET DOWN?
10:38:12AM I MEAN, IT'S REALLY -- WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANTING TREES AND
10:38:16AM NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE -- NOT PLANTING TREES --
10:38:21AM TRIMMING TREES AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE COST TO THE
10:38:23AM PEOPLE.
10:38:26AM WE HAVE PILED ON THE PEOPLE ALREADY.
10:38:28AM WE HAVE THREE TAXES -- THREE TAX INCREASES, AND NOW WE'RE
10:38:33AM GOING TO PILE ON THEM -- I CAN'T DO THIS.
10:38:37AM I CANNOT -- I MEAN, LET'S LOOK AT IT IN SIX MONTHS.
10:38:40AM IF IT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, ADD IT.
10:38:42AM BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT FAIR.
10:38:49AM >> COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE DO ACTIVE
10:38:54AM --
10:38:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
10:38:56AM >> KATHY BECK, NATURAL RESOURCES COORDINATOR.
10:38:59AM WE DID TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN DANGEROUS TREES ON PRIVATE
10:39:02AM PROPERTY.
10:39:03AM WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONDEMN THEM THROUGH THE CODE
10:39:05AM ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, AND WE'VE GOT A SUBSTANTIAL BACKLOG OF
10:39:12AM DANGEROUS TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE CONDEMNED AND
10:39:14AM THEY ARE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THEM BEFORE THEY FALL ON HOMES
10:39:17AM OR NEIGHBORS' PROPERTIES.
10:39:19AM AND WE ALSO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH PRUNING VIOLATIONS.
10:39:23AM THE CONSEQUENCES OF PRUNING TREES IMPROPERLY ARE PRETTY
10:39:28AM SUBSTANTIAL.
10:39:28AM THEY CREATE DANGEROUS TREES.
10:39:30AM AND I THINK WE HEARD TESTIMONY TODAY THAT DURING HIGH WINDS
10:39:34AM OR STORM EVENTS, THAT DEAD TREES OR DANGEROUS TREES FELL AND
10:39:39AM KEPT POWER OUT FOR THREE DAYS.
10:39:41AM THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T PRUNE TREES PROPERLY.
10:39:46AM THEY DON'T RESPOND WELL AND THEY BECOME DANGEROUS.
10:39:49AM SO WE TRY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE PROPER WAYS TO PRUNE
10:39:52AM TREES.
10:39:53AM AND WE WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PRUNED THEM IMPROPERLY
10:39:56AM TO GET THEM PRUNED CORRECTLY SO THEY DON'T BECOME DANGEROUS.
10:39:59AM SO IT'S REALLY AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS FOR US ALSO.
10:40:01AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU.
10:40:03AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
10:40:04AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: ANY LIMB OF SPECIMEN TREE THAT IS LOCATED
10:40:08AM WITHIN, ON, OR OVER ANY PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY OR PRIVATE
10:40:13AM PROPERTY, WHICH LIMB MEASURES FOUR INCHES OR GREATER IN
10:40:17AM DIAMETER AS MEASURED 12 INCHES FROM THE BASE OF THE LIMB AND
10:40:23AM ANY LIMB -- OKAY.
10:40:25AM THAT'S NUMBER TWO.
10:40:26AM THAT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
10:40:36AM THAT IS NOT -- BUT IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S
10:40:41AM LIVES.
10:40:42AM AND TO CONDEMN TREES AND NOT HELP THEM, WHEN WE DO HELP THEM
10:40:46AM WITH THEIR ROOF.
10:40:46AM WE HELP THEM WITH DIFFERENT THINGS BUT NOT WITH A TREE.
10:40:49AM SO THE TREE SITS THERE UNTIL IT FALLS.
10:40:52AM SO WE'RE GOING AROUND CONDEMNING.
10:40:54AM WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF CONDEMNED TREES.
10:40:57AM IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.
10:41:01AM IT JUST ISN'T FAIR.
10:41:03AM THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IS
10:41:08AM EXCELLENT.
10:41:09AM EVERYBODY WORKED VERY HARD.
10:41:10AM AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT BUILDERS UNDERSTAND, TREES ARE
10:41:18AM -- ADD ENORMOUS VALUE TO PROPERTY.
10:41:20AM THEY ADD VALUE TO PROPERTY.
10:41:21AM TO INSINUATE THAT BUILDERS DON'T LIKE TREES IS RIDICULOUS,
10:41:29AM IN MY ESTIMATION.
10:41:31AM THAT BEING SAID, I THINK I WOULD VOTE FOR IT IF IT WAS
10:41:40AM REMOVED AND IN SIX MONTHS, IF THEY THINK THEY NEED TO PUT IT
10:41:42AM BACK, THEY PUT IT BACK.
10:41:44AM BUT I THINK IT'S ONEROUS ON PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
10:41:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:41:48AM DO WE HAVE ANY HARDSHIP PROVISIONS FOR SENIOR CITIZENS?
10:41:59AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE STANDING HERE TODAY.
10:42:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SOMEBODY ON FIXED INCOME AND THEY GET
10:42:03AM CITED, THEY HAVE TO PAY.
10:42:04AM >>KRISTIN MORA: STANDING HERE TODAY, I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE.
10:42:07AM THERE ARE SOME COMPLICATIONS THE WAY THAT THE STATUTE
10:42:09AM REGULATES HOW WE DO FEES, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO
10:42:12AM TAKE A LOOK AT.
10:42:13AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:42:14AM THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER, A HARDSHIP PROVISION
10:42:17AM FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.
10:42:19AM THEY SHOULDN'T -- THEY ARE ALREADY ON FIXED INCOME.
10:42:23AM THEY SHOULDN'T BE BURDENED WITH THE HIGH COSTS.
10:42:25AM THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN TAKE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
10:42:33AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SIR, MY POINT WAS THIS.
10:42:33AM IT WAS INDICATED THAT THIS HAS BEEN WORKED ON THREE WEEKS
10:42:35AM AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS CAME UP.
10:42:38AM THIS DIDN'T ALL OF A SUDDEN COME UP.
10:42:38AM I HAVE BEEN QUESTIONING THIS EVERY TIME IT COMES UP ABOUT
10:42:43AM PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD IT.
10:42:46AM SO IT'S NOT NEW, AND HERE IT IS.
10:42:48AM IT'S STILL THERE.
10:42:49AM THAT PART OF IT IS NOT SOMETHING I WILL SUPPORT.
10:42:56AM I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT BURDENING PEOPLE WHEN WE HAVE RAISED
10:42:58AM TAXES THREE TIMES.
10:43:00AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:43:02AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:43:04AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
10:43:07AM AYE.
10:43:08AM OPPOSED?
10:43:08AM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:43:11AM READ SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
10:43:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
10:43:23AM SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:43:23AM ADOPTION.
10:43:25AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
10:43:25AM COMPREHENSIVE CHANGES TO THE CITY'S TREE AND LANDSCAPING
10:43:25AM REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN CHAPTERS 13 (LANDSCAPING, TREE
10:43:25AM REMOVAL AND SITE CLEARING), 16 (PARKS AND RECREATION), 19
10:43:25AM (PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND STRUCTURAL STANDARDS), 22
10:43:25AM (STREETS AND SIDEWALKS), AND 27 (ZONING AND LAND
10:43:25AM DEVELOPMENT); REPEALING AND RESERVING CHAPTER 13
10:43:25AM (LANDSCAPING, TREE REMOVAL AND SITE CLEARING); AMENDING
10:43:25AM SECTION 16-86, TREE TRUST FUND ESTABLISHED; AMENDING SECTION
10:43:25AM 19-3, DEFINITIONS; AMENDING SECTION 19-58, UNLAWFUL TO ALLOW
10:43:25AM A DANGEROUS TREE TO REMAIN ON PROPERTY; AMENDING SECTION
10:43:25AM 22-5, DEFINITIONS; AMENDING SECTION 22-223, ADMINISTRATIVE
10:43:25AM AUTHORITY; AMENDING SECTION 22-323.6, TREES WITHIN OR
10:43:25AM PROXIMATE TO PUBLIC RIGHTS-OF-WAY; AMENDING SECTION 27-7,
10:43:25AM AREA OF COVERAGE OF CHAPTER; CREATING SECTION 27-20,
10:43:25AM PLANNING DISTRICTS; AMENDING SECTION 27-43, DEFINITIONS;
10:43:25AM AMENDING SECTION 27-51, ESTABLISHMENT OF ADMINISTRATIVE
10:43:25AM OFFICERS; AMENDING SECTION 27-58, FEES; AMENDING SECTION
10:43:25AM 27-60, ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION; AMENDING SECTION 27-61,
10:43:25AM REVIEW; AMENDING SECTION 27-79, POWERS AND DUTIES; AMENDING
10:43:25AM SECTION 27-81; ADMINISTRATION; NOTICE; PUBLIC HEARING;
10:43:25AM DECISION; AMENDING SECTION 27-96, VARIANCE; AUTHORITY;
10:43:25AM APPLICATION; NOTICE; CRITERIA; DECISION; STAY; DENIAL;
10:43:25AM REVIEW; EXPIRATION OF VARIANCE; AMENDING SECTION 27-114,
10:43:25AM VARIANCE; AUTHORITY; APPLICATION; PUBLIC NOTICE; CRITERIA;
10:43:25AM DECISION; STAY; DENIAL; REVIEW; EXPIRATION OF VARIANCE;
10:43:25AM AMENDING SECTION 27-132, REGULATIONS GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL
10:43:25AM SPECIAL USES; AMENDING SECTION 27-139, GENERAL REQUIREMENTS;
10:43:25AM AMENDING SECTION 27-147, AMENDMENT INITIATION; AMENDING
10:43:25AM SECTION 27-148, PROCEDURE FOR AMENDMENT APPLICATION;
10:43:25AM AMENDING SECTION 27-151, COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF LAND
10:43:25AM DEVELOPMENT CODE; AMENDING SECTION 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE
10:43:25AM OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS; AMENDING SECTION 27-177, HISTORIC
10:43:25AM DISTRICT ESTABLISHED; AMENDING SECTION 27-178, ALTERNATIVE
10:43:25AM PARKING REQUIREMENTS; AMENDING SECTION 27-185.1, OFF-STREET
10:43:25AM SURFACE PARKING DESIGN STANDARDS; AMENDING SECTION 27-198,
10:43:25AM OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED PRINCIPAL, ACCESSORY AND
10:43:25AM SPECIAL USES; AMENDING SECTION 27-211.13, LANDSCAPING;
10:43:25AM AMENDING SECTION 27-212.6, LANDSCAPING, TREE PLANTING,
10:43:25AM SCREENING; AMENDING SECTION 27-283.13, SPECIAL EVENT PARKING
10:43:25AM LOTS, INTERIM PARKING LOTS AND RESIDENTIAL PARKING FOR
10:43:25AM STADIUM EVENTS; REPEALING AND REPLACING SECTION 27-284,
10:43:25AM TITLE; PURPOSE AND APPLICABILITY; PERIODIC STUDY OF TAMPA'S
10:43:25AM URBAN FOREST; CREATING SECTION 27-284.1, ADMINISTRATIVE
10:43:25AM AUTHORITY; DEFINITIONS; GENERAL PROCEDURES; FEES; CREATING
10:43:25AM SECTION 27-284.1.1, CITY TREE MATRIX; TECHNICAL STANDARDS;
10:43:25AM AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH, PUBLISH, AND ADOPT; CREATING SECTION
10:43:25AM 27-284.1.2, TREES - PROTECTED, GRAND, AND EXEMPT TREES;
10:43:25AM MEASUREMENT METHODS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.1.3. OTHER
10:43:25AM EXEMPTIONS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.1.4, NONCONFORMING
10:43:25AM LANDSCAPE AREA(S) DUE TO GOVERNMENTAL ACQUISITION; SECTION
10:43:25AM 27-284.2, PERMITS, IN GENERAL; TREE PROTECTION DURING
10:43:25AM CONSTRUCTION; INSPECTIONS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.2.1,
10:43:25AM PERMIT FOR SITE CLEARING; APPLICATION; REQUIRED
10:43:25AM DOCUMENTATION; INSPECTIONS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.2.2,
10:43:25AM PERMIT FOR LANDSCAPING AND TREE PLANTING ACTIVITIES AS PART
10:43:25AM OF A BUILDING PERMIT; APPLICATION; REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION;
10:43:25AM INSPECTIONS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.2.3, PERMIT FOR TREE
10:43:25AM PRUNING; APPLICATION; STANDARDS AND CRITERIA FOR DECISION;
10:43:25AM REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION; INSPECTIONS; CREATING SECTION
10:43:25AM 27-284.2.4., PERMIT FOR PROTECTED TREE REMOVAL; APPLICATION;
10:43:25AM REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION; STANDARDS AND CRITERIA FOR DECISION;
10:43:25AM INSPECTIONS; PETITION FOR REVIEW; CREATING SECTION
10:43:25AM 27-284.2.5, PERMIT FOR GRAND TREE REMOVAL; APPLICATION;
10:43:25AM REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION; STANDARDS AND CRITERIA FOR DECISION;
10:43:25AM INSPECTIONS; PETITION FOR REVIEW; CREATING SECTION
10:43:25AM 27-284.2.6, TREE PLANTING PERMIT; PROCEDURES; REQUIREMENTS;
10:43:25AM INSPECTIONS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.2.7, EMERGENCY WORK;
10:43:25AM CREATING SECTION 27-284.3, TREE PRESERVATION, PLANTING,
10:43:25AM LANDSCAPED AREA REQUIREMENTS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.3.1,
10:43:25AM LANDSCAPE AND TREE PLANTING STANDARDS; TREE PRESERVATION
10:43:25AM (RETENTION) STANDARDS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.3.2, TREE
10:43:25AM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS; TREE MATRIX; IRRIGATION; CREATING
10:43:25AM SECTION 27-284.3.3, LANDSCAPED AREA AND TREE PLANTING
10:43:25AM REQUIREMENTS; CREATING SECTION 27-284.3.4, LANDSCAPED AREA,
10:43:25AM IN-LIEU CALCULATION AND PAYMENT GENERAL PROCEDURE; CREATING
10:43:25AM SECTION 27-284.4, TREE MITIGATION METHOD; REQUIREMENTS;
10:43:25AM CREATING SECTION 27-284.4.1, TREE MITIGATION CALCULATIONS;
10:43:25AM CREATING SECTION 27-284.4.2, TREE PLANTING PERMIT FOR
10:43:25AM MITIGATION TREES; REPEALING AND REPLACING SECTION 27-285.
10:43:25AM ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY; PENALTIES; REMEDIES; REPEALING
10:43:25AM SECTION 27-285.1, LANDSCAPE AND TREE PLANTING STANDARDS;
10:43:25AM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:43:25AM THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
10:43:25AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:36AM >> SECOND.
10:49:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:49:37AM WE HAD A LONG MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO AND A SHORT SECOND
10:49:41AM FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:49:42AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:49:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YES.
10:49:45AM >>HARRY COHEN: WAS THERE CLARIFICATION OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE
10:49:49AM BEING JUNE 1st WHICH IS WHAT I BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY HAD
10:49:52AM ASKED FOR?
10:49:52AM IF NOT, IF YOU COULD MAYBE SAY THAT ON THE RECORD.
10:49:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:49:59AM SO EFFECTIVE JUNE 1st, 2019.
10:50:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:50:04AM MS. CAPIN.
10:50:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON THAT
10:50:10AM CAME UP TO TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT WAS ONE
10:50:14AM LADY.
10:50:15AM EVERYBODY ELSE -- AND I LOOKED OUT AT THE AUDIENCE -- WHITE
10:50:19AM MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE.
10:50:21AM I APOLOGIZE THAT I DID NOT MAKE THE MOTION TO REMOVE THAT.
10:50:28AM MY APOLOGIES TO YOU.
10:50:30AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:50:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:50:33AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
10:50:35AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:50:36AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:50:39AM THOSE OPPOSED?
10:50:40AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NAY.
10:50:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OH, ROLL CALL.
10:50:46AM I FORGOT.
10:50:46AM IT WAS SO LONG.
10:50:47AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:50:55AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CAPIN VOTING NO AND VIERA
10:50:59AM ABSENT.
10:51:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE MR. CHILLURA SHOULD BUY LUNCH
10:51:09AM FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
10:51:10AM >> I SECOND.
10:51:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SINCE HE STARTED IT BACK IN THE '70s.
10:51:20AM >>HARRY COHEN: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, AND I THINK
10:51:23AM THAT THE INTERESTED PARTIES MAY WANT TO LISTEN TO THIS, THAT
10:51:26AM ON OCTOBER 24th AT 9 A.M., THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IN ITS
10:51:30AM WORKSHOP SESSION HOLD A REVIEW OF THE TREE ORDINANCE AFTER
10:51:33AM ITS FIRST SIX MONTHS, AND THAT IT SPECIFICALLY RECEIVE A
10:51:37AM REPORT FROM THE STAFF ON THE OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS OF THE
10:51:42AM ORDINANCE TO DATE, THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY BRING UP THE ISSUE
10:51:47AM OF THE FOUR-INCH LIMB PRUNING AND WHETHER OR NOT AN
10:51:51AM AFFIDAVIT-TYPE SYSTEM HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE WORKED OUT TO
10:51:54AM ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE HARDSHIP THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE
10:51:57AM PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACE FOR
10:52:01AM THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.
10:52:03AM AND THAT, THIRD, THERE BE A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT
10:52:07AM IS APPROPRIATE OR NECESSARY TO HAVE A HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOR
10:52:12AM BOTH ELDERLY AND LOW-INCOME OR REDUCED INCOME CITIZENS.
10:52:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:52:17AM WELL, YOU MADE MY MOTION.
10:52:20AM ALL RIGHT.
10:52:21AM SO GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:52:22AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:52:23AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION?
10:52:24AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:52:26AM THOSE OPPOSED?
10:52:27AM ALL RIGHT.
10:52:27AM WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT ON TV NOW.
10:52:31AM MAKE SURE YOU-ALL DO THAT.
10:52:33AM GO TO ITEM NUMBER 57.
10:52:37AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:52:39AM I'M HERE ON ITEM 57, WHICH IS A CHANGE TO CHAPTER 16, PARKS
10:52:42AM AND RECREATION.
10:52:44AM IT IS UPDATING THE ADDRESS OF THE DAVID M. BARKSDALE
10:52:49AM COMMUNITY CENTER TO REFLECT WHERE IT ACTUALLY IS LOCATED.
10:52:52AM BASED UPON YOUR CITY COUNCIL'S RECENT CHANGES TO THIS
10:52:55AM ORDINANCE, THIS WILL NEED TO PASS BY FIVE VOTES OR MORE.
10:52:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:53:00AM ALL RIGHT.
10:53:01AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?
10:53:07AM >> MORRIS MASSEY, HILL WARD HENDERSON, 101 EAST KENNEDY
10:53:09AM BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
10:53:13AM TAMPA.
10:53:13AM WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ADDRESS CORRECTED.
10:53:14AM AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT THIS MORNING.
10:53:16AM THANK YOU.
10:53:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:53:18AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?
10:53:21AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:53:22AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
10:53:24AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
10:53:25AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
10:53:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:53:27AM MS. CAPIN, ITEM 57.
10:53:29AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:53:30AM FILE NUMBER E2019-8, CHAPTER 16, AN ORDINANCE BEING
10:53:39AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:53:41AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING A
10:53:43AM REVISION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 16
10:53:46AM (PARKS AND RECREATION); AMENDING SECTION 16-91, LIST OF
10:53:50AM DEDICATED PARKS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:53:53AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
10:53:56AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:58AM >> SECOND.
10:53:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
10:54:02AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:54:03AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:54:13AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA ABSENT
10:54:16AM AT VOTE AND VIERA ABSENT.
10:54:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 58.
10:54:20AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 58?
10:54:28AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:54:30AM ITEM 58 IS FOR SECOND READING.
10:54:32AM IT'S A CHANGE TO YOUR TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:54:34AM I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ADDRESS YOU, BUT IT
10:54:38AM HAS BEEN PASSED ON FIRST READING.
10:54:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:54:40AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 58?
10:54:44AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:54:45AM >> SECOND.
10:54:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:54:47AM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:54:48AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:54:50AM OPPOSED?
10:54:50AM MR. SUAREZ.
10:54:51AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:54:52AM I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:54:55AM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
10:54:58AM LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
10:55:00AM LOCATED AT 4801 NORTH 22nd STREET FROM COMMUNITY
10:55:04AM COMMERCIAL-35 (CC-35), COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 (CMU-35),
10:55:10AM RESIDENTIAL-10 (R-10), RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35), RESIDENTIAL-50
10:55:17AM (R-50), RIGHT-OF-WAY AND TRANSITIONAL USE-24 (TU-24) TO
10:55:25AM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC (P/SP); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10:55:30AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
10:55:32AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:55:33AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. SUAREZ.
10:55:35AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:55:36AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:55:38AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:55:42AM ABSENT.
10:55:44AM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I WILL
10:55:46AM HAVE TO LEAVE AT THIS POINT.
10:55:48AM I HAVE A PRE--- A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT THAT I NEED TO GET
10:55:52AM TO.
10:55:53AM SO I WON'T BE HERE FOR THE REST OF THE SESSION.
10:55:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:55:58AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59 THROUGH 65, PLEASE STAND
10:56:03AM UP TO BE SWORN.
10:56:03AM IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING ON ITEMS 59 THROUGH 65, PLEASE STAND
10:56:08AM UP TO BE SWORN.
10:56:11AM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
10:56:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:56:18AM ITEM NUMBER 59.
10:56:19AM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND
10:56:25AM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ITEMS 59 THROUGH 65, WERE HEARD
10:56:27AM FOR FIRST READING AT YOUR MARCH 14th HEARING.
10:56:30AM THEY ARE ALL READY FOR SECOND HEARING.
10:56:31AM I BELIEVE ALL MY APPLICANTS ARE PRESENT.
10:56:33AM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:56:34AM NO.
10:56:36AM THANK YOU.
10:56:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: APPLICANT FOR NUMBER 59?
10:56:44AM >> ROY MEASURE.
10:56:45AM 4260 WEST LINEBAUGH AVENUE.
10:56:48AM WRA ENGINEERING.
10:56:49AM GOOD MORNING.
10:56:51AM HAPPY EASTER TO ALL.
10:56:53AM WE HAVE MADE THE CHANGES AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO THE SITE
10:56:55AM PLAN.
10:56:56AM THE PLAN AND THE PROJECT DID RECEIVE 100% COMPLIANCE FROM
10:57:01AM THE STAFF REVIEW, AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
10:57:05AM ANY QUESTIONS.
10:57:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:57:07AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 59?
10:57:12AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:57:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:57:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:57:16AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
10:57:17AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
10:57:19AM OPPOSED?
10:57:19AM ALL RIGHT, MR. COHEN, KIND ENOUGH TO READ NUMBER 59.
10:57:23AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:57:26AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
10:57:28AM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4707, 4713, AND 4717 WEST McCOY
10:57:34AM STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:57:36AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
10:57:40AM PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL, AND RESTAURANT) TO PD
10:57:44AM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED);
10:57:48AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:57:51AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SECOND.
10:57:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
10:57:53AM SECONDED BY MS. CAPIN.
10:57:54AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:58:03AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO
10:58:07AM AND SUAREZ AND VIERA BEING ABSENT.
10:58:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
10:58:10AM ITEM NUMBER 60.
10:58:11AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 60?
10:58:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:58:26AM J.D. BRICKLEMYER, JOSEPH BRICKLEMYER LAW.
10:58:29AM 3902 HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
10:58:31AM I THINK THE MATTER AND REQUEST BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS WHAT
10:58:34AM TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT YOU WANT?
10:58:36AM ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT WILL PROVIDE ENHANCEMENT TO
10:58:38AM THE PROPERTIES, INCREASE EMPLOYMENT, INCREASE PROPERTY
10:58:40AM VALUES, OR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED
10:58:43AM WHICH WOULD HOUSE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME NUMBER OF RESIDENTS
10:58:46AM WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC AND REALLY NO ENHANCEMENT TO THE
10:58:49AM PROPERTY.
10:58:49AM MY CLIENT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY COOPERATIVE WITH THE
10:58:54AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WITH TWO EXTENSIONS TO THIS
10:58:57AM PROCESS TO COOPERATE AND GET THEIR APPROVAL.
10:59:00AM AND LASTLY, IT'S REALLY A QUESTION, THE STAFF FOUND THIS
10:59:05AM TOTALLY CONSISTENT, AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:59:09AM ANY QUESTIONS.
10:59:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?
10:59:11AM >> TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:59:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
10:59:15AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 59?
10:59:18AM I MEAN ITEM 60.
10:59:22AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
10:59:26AM >> MY NAME IS RALPH RIVERA, VICE PRESIDENT OF CENTRAL
10:59:30AM PROTECTION SERVICES.
10:59:31AM OUR OFFICE 5809 115th DRIVE EAST, PARRISH FLORIDA.
10:59:37AM OUR COMPANY HAS OVER TEN YEARS' EXPERIENCE OF BOTH SAFETY
10:59:39AM AND SECURITY SERVICES.
10:59:40AM OUR COMPANY'S PORTFOLIO CONSISTS OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES
10:59:43AM SUCH AS APARTMENT COMPLEXES, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS,
10:59:47AM SUBDIVISIONS AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL PROPERTIES.
10:59:50AM SOME OF OUR SECURITY DETAILS INCLUDE CONVENTIONS AS WELL AS
10:59:53AM PUBLIC EVENTS.
10:59:54AM THE DEVELOPER AND I HAVE DRAFT AGREEMENT AND PENDING
10:59:57AM CONTRACT WITH RESPECT TO EMILY'S PROJECT.
11:00:00AM AS THE DEVELOPER'S PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF
11:00:02AM THE RESIDENTS AND STAFF AND OVERALL PROPERTY.
11:00:06AM SECURITY MEASURES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TO INCLUDE CAMERA
11:00:08AM SYSTEMS, PERIMETER FENCING, CCTVs AS WELL AS PROPERTY
11:00:12AM SECURITY CHECKS AND SERVICES.
11:00:13AM VISITORS WILL BE MADE TO SIGN IN AND OUT TO GAIN ACCESS TO
11:00:16AM BOTH THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS RESIDENTS.
11:00:17AM THE SECURITY PLAN IS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAFE
11:00:21AM AND SECURE AND NOT TO MADE FEEL AS THOUGH THEY ARE IN A
11:00:24AM PRISON AS BOTH THE DEVELOPERS AND I HAVE PRIORITIES TO KEEP
11:00:28AM THE RESIDENTS SAFE.
11:00:30AM CENTRAL PROTECTION SERVICES OFFICERS ARE CERTIFIED AND
11:00:33AM TRAINED IN THE AREA OF PATIENT COMPLIANCE TO MEET ALL ALF
11:00:39AM CRITERIA.
11:00:39AM IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND CENTRAL
11:00:42AM PROTECTION SERVICES ATTENTION THAT THERE ARE SOME SAFETY
11:00:45AM CONCERNS IN REFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC PARK ADJACENT TO THE
11:00:48AM EMILY PROJECT.
11:00:49AM OUR PRESENCE WILL BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORS -- THE
11:00:53AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS I'M -- AND WE ARE
11:00:57AM CONFIDENT THAT OUR PRESENCE OF SECURITY, SUCH AS THE ONE WE
11:01:00AM WILL BE PROVIDING, WOULD DETER AND MINIMIZE ANY ACTIVITY
11:01:03AM AROUND THE PROPERTY AND WOULD MOST CERTAINLY KEEP RESIDENTS
11:01:06AM AS SAFE AS CAN BE.
11:01:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:01:12AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
11:01:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:01:19AM MY NAME IS McINTOSH.
11:01:21AM 512 EAST EMILY.
11:01:22AM THAT IS FOUR HOUSES AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSED LOCATION THAT
11:01:26AM THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD.
11:01:28AM I DO VIEW THE PARK.
11:01:30AM IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM OUR RESIDENCE.
11:01:33AM WITH THIS ADDED SECURITY THAT'S GOING TO GO IN AND THE FACT
11:01:35AM THAT JUST -- JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BASEBALL FIELD IS
11:01:39AM A COMMUNITY CENTER POLICE SUBSTATION, WHICH IS CONSTANTLY
11:01:43AM FULL OF PATROL OFFICERS, THE SECURITY DOWN THERE WILL
11:01:48AM INCREASE.
11:01:48AM IT WILL BE MUCH BETTER.
11:01:50AM THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
11:01:54AM IT HAS BEEN MANY, MANY THINGS OVER THE YEARS, WHICH I'M SURE
11:01:58AM YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF.
11:01:59AM I APPROVED THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT WILL
11:02:03AM PROVIDE INCOME FOR PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:02:07AM IT WILL PROVIDE SECURITY.
11:02:09AM IT WILL PROVIDE BENEFITS FOR THE VETERANS THAT ARE GOING TO
11:02:13AM BE IN THIS FACILITY.
11:02:15AM THIS IS GOING TO BE A LOCATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO
11:02:19AM THROUGH.
11:02:19AM SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING, AND HAVE A GREAT
11:02:22AM DAY.
11:02:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:02:24AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
11:02:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:02:32AM MY NAME IS CHARLES.
11:02:35AM 509 EAST BAKER.
11:02:36AM I STAY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE PARK AND THE PLACE
11:02:42AM WHERE TRYING TO REOPEN THE PLACE.
11:02:43AM I STAYED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A WHILE, AND I REALLY DO THINK
11:02:48AM IT WILL BE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, FACE-LIFT FOR THE EAST TAMPA
11:02:52AM AREA BECAUSE IT WILL OPEN UP JOBS, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU
11:02:58AM ALL DO A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN NEW TOWN -- I MEAN, IN
11:03:02AM EAST TAMPA.
11:03:02AM SO I THINK THAT IT REALLY WOULD BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW,
11:03:09AM VETERANS AND PEOPLE IN NEED.
11:03:11AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL NICE PLACE FOR IT TO BE.
11:03:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:03:16AM ANYONE ELSE?
11:03:25AM >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MORNING OR AFTERNOON, BUT MY NAME IS
11:03:27AM DONNA CRAIG.
11:03:28AM I OWN AND LIVE AT 512 EAST EMILY STREET, WHICH, AS RECORDED
11:03:34AM BEFORE, IS ABOUT FOUR, FIVE HOUSES FROM THE TWO PROPERTIES
11:03:39AM THAT ARE IN QUESTION.
11:03:40AM AND I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
11:03:43AM I LIVE ON ROBLES PARK.
11:03:44AM I MOVED THERE A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS AGO.
11:03:46AM THAT SECTION OF THE PARK HAS BEEN A MESS.
11:03:54AM AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A STRONGHOLD ON THIS
11:03:59AM PARK.
11:03:59AM I LIVE ON THE FAR NORTHEAST CORNER, AND I THINK WE NEED
11:04:03AM PEOPLE IN THERE THAT RESPECT THE PARK, THAT WANT TO BE IN
11:04:07AM THE PARK, THAT WANT TO APPRECIATE WHAT THE CITY HAS PUT IN
11:04:11AM MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, AND PROBABLY PART OF THE LANDSCAPE AT
11:04:14AM SOME POINT EARLY ON.
11:04:16AM BUT I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN IS FULL OF HEART AND IS WILLING
11:04:21AM TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY.
11:04:24AM HE HAS THE FUNDS TO DO IT, AND I DO NOT SEE WHY ALL OF THE
11:04:28AM CONFUSION HAS EVOLVED WHEN WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOMEONE THAT'S
11:04:34AM WILLING TO HELP THIS PROJECT MOVE ALONG AND MAKE THIS TAMPA
11:04:38AM HEIGHTS AREA MUCH BETTER.
11:04:40AM SO I APPROVE IT.
11:04:41AM HOPE IT GOES THROUGH.
11:04:42AM THANK YOU.
11:04:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:45AM ANYONE ELSE?
11:04:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:04:49AM >> SECOND.
11:04:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:04:50AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:04:51AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:04:53AM OPPOSED?
11:04:53AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:04:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FILE NUMBER
11:04:58AM REZ18-101, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:05:02AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:05:05AM VICINITY OF 414 AND 418 EAST EMILY STREET, IN THE CITY OF
11:05:08AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
11:05:10AM 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL,
11:05:14AM MULTIFAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, CONGREGATE LIVING
11:05:19AM FACILITY; GROUP CARE FACILITY, LARGE); PROVIDING AN
11:05:22AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:05:24AM >>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.
11:05:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:05:26AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:05:27AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:05:29AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:05:34AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND SUAREZ BEING
11:05:37AM ABSENT.
11:05:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 61.
11:05:53AM >> HI.
11:05:53AM DIANA HAMMAD REPRESENTING DKV INITIATIVES ON BEHALF OF DOUG
11:05:59AM VERKAIK AND LOU TOTH.
11:06:02AM JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THE PREVIOUS HEARING THAT WAS DONE ON
11:06:05AM MARCH 28th.
11:06:06AM THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT IS OPPOSING TO OUR LOT BEING
11:06:11AM REZONED AS RESIDENTIAL.
11:06:13AM SO JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.
11:06:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:06:15AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 62?
11:06:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:06:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 61.
11:06:24AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:06:27AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:06:29AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:06:30AM OPPOSED?
11:06:31AM MR. COHEN.
11:06:33AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:06:34AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:06:36AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:06:39AM VICINITY OF 7113 SOUTH KISSIMMEE STREET, IN THE CITY OF
11:06:43AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
11:06:45AM 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG (COMMERCIAL
11:06:49AM GENERAL) TO RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY); PROVIDING AN
11:06:54AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:06:55AM >> SECOND.
11:06:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:06:57AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:06:58AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:07:05AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND SUAREZ BEING
11:07:08AM ABSENT.
11:07:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 62.
11:07:11AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:07:11AM ITEM NUMBER 62.
11:07:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:07:16AM MY NAME IS PERRY SULLIVAN.
11:07:18AM 4211 RIVER HILLS DRIVE.
11:07:20AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SECOND READING.
11:07:25AM MY PROJECT, I'VE DONE ALL THE CHANGES THAT STAFF HAS ASKED,
11:07:28AM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND HOPING YOU'LL GIVE US A
11:07:31AM FAVORABLE DECISION.
11:07:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:07:33AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:07:34AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 62?
11:07:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:07:38AM >> SECOND.
11:07:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:07:40AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:07:41AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:07:43AM OPPOSED?
11:07:43AM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:07:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:07:46AM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:07:49AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:07:51AM VICINITY OF 7214 NORTH 40th STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:07:55AM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
11:08:00AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24 (RESIDENTIAL,
11:08:03AM MULTIFAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PERSONAL SERVICES
11:08:06AM AND BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:08:10AM DATE.
11:08:10AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:08:13AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:08:15AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:08:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
11:08:18AM SUAREZ ABSENT.
11:08:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 63.
11:08:22AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:08:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
11:08:29AM GABRIEL NAVARATTE.
11:08:33AM I'M HERE FOR THE SECOND MOTION.
11:08:35AM WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PD THIS PROPERTY
11:08:40AM BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT 250 FEET OF THE REQUIRED
11:08:43AM 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT AREA FOR RS-50 ZONING.
11:08:49AM SO I'M HERE SEEKING THAT APPROVAL.
11:08:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:08:56AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 63?
11:09:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:09:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
11:09:02AM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:09:03AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:09:05AM OPPOSED?
11:09:05AM MS. CAPIN.
11:09:07AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:09:10AM >> THANK YOU.
11:09:11AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: FILE --
11:09:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE AIN'T DONE YET.
11:09:18AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU CAN STILL THANK US.
11:09:19AM REZ 19-08, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
11:09:24AM AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:09:26AM VICINITY OF 3304 AND 3306 WEST SAINT JOSEPH STREET, IN THE
11:09:31AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:09:33AM SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 TO
11:09:39AM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:09:41AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:09:44AM DATE.
11:09:45AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MS. CAPIN.
11:09:48AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:09:49AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:09:51AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
11:09:56AM SUAREZ BEING ABSENT.
11:09:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 64.
11:10:04AM >> LEIGHTON HYDE FOR THE APPLICANT, 4100 WEST KENNEDY
11:10:07AM BOULEVARD, SUITE 213, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
11:10:11AM HAVE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS
11:10:14AM ORDINANCE.
11:10:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:10:16AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 64?
11:10:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:10:21AM >> SECOND.
11:10:21AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:10:23AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:10:25AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:10:27AM OPPOSED?
11:10:27AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:10:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:10:30AM NUMBER 64, FILE NUMBER REZ 19-12, MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
11:10:36AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:10:38AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2807 NORTH
11:10:40AM BOULEVARD AND 518 WEST PLAZA PLACE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:10:44AM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
11:10:46AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RO (RESIDENTIAL OFFICE) AND
11:10:49AM RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO RM-18 (RESIDENTIAL,
11:10:53AM MULTIFAMILY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:10:57AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:10:58AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:11:04AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
11:11:06AM SUAREZ BEING ABSENT AND CAPIN BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:11:09AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 65.
11:11:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:11:18AM MORRIS MASSEY, HILL WARD HENDERSON, 101 EAST KENNEDY
11:11:20AM BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700, TAMPA, FLORIDA, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
11:11:24AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:11:25AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
11:11:29AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:11:30AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 65?
11:11:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:11:34AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:11:36AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:11:37AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:11:39AM OPPOSED?
11:11:39AM MR. COHEN.
11:11:41AM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:11:43AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:11:46AM ADOPTION.
11:11:46AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:11:49AM 401, 802, 909, AND 1005 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 109 NORTH
11:11:55AM WILLOW AVENUE, AND 112 AND 115 NORTH EDISON AVENUE IN THE
11:12:00AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:12:02AM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD-A (PLANNED
11:12:06AM DEVELOPMENT, ALTERNATIVE); CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) AND IG
11:12:11AM (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD-A (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:12:15AM ALTERNATIVE, COLLEGE, UNIVERSITY, PRIVATE); PROVIDING AN
11:12:17AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:12:22AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:12:23AM ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:12:32AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CAPIN BEING
11:12:35AM ABSENT AT VOTE AND VIERA AND SUAREZ BEING ABSENT.
11:12:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM NUMBER 66.
11:12:45AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:12:46AM COORDINATION.
11:12:47AM THIS IS A VACATING REQUEST.
11:12:48AM VAC19-04.
11:12:53AM THIS IS THE SECOND READING.
11:12:54AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
11:12:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: APPLICANT?
11:13:02AM >> HOW ARE YOU?
11:13:03AM SCOTT GILLNER WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES.
11:13:05AM 655 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
11:13:07AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THE
11:13:11AM SUBSTITUTED ORDINANCE.
11:13:12AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:13:12AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:13:14AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 66?
11:13:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:13:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:13:19AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:13:22AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:13:24AM OPPOSED?
11:13:24AM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:13:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE
11:13:28AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:13:30AM ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
11:13:34AM RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF
11:13:36AM BROREIN STREET AND JEFFERSON STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:13:39AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
11:13:42AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
11:13:45AM CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
11:13:48AM HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:13:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
11:13:52AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:13:54AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:14:00AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CAPIN BEING
11:14:02AM ABSENT AT VOTE AND VIERA AND SUAREZ BEING ABSENT.
11:14:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:14:06AM WE GO TO OUR 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:14:09AM ANYONE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 67 THROUGH 71, PLEASE STAND
11:14:14AM TO BE SWORN.
11:14:15AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 67 THROUGH 71, PLEASE
11:14:19AM STAND TO BE SWORN.
11:14:21AM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
11:14:27AM >>HARRY COHEN: MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO OPEN ITEMS 67 THROUGH
11:14:31AM 71.
11:14:32AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:14:34AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:14:35AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:14:37AM OPPOSED?
11:14:38AM OKAY.
11:14:38AM ITEM NUMBER 67.
11:14:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:14:44AM -- ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
11:14:57AM >> STEVE IS GOING TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE ON VAC 19-06 TO
11:15:01AM MAY 16.
11:15:02AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:15:04AM WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR 30 DAYS.
11:15:07AM WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT THE EASEMENT LANGUAGE WITH THE CITY
11:15:12AM STAFF, AND WE NEED TIME TO FINISH THAT UP.
11:15:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ITEM 67?
11:15:17AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:15:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 30 DAYS WOULD BE WHAT DATE?
11:15:21AM >>HARRY COHEN: MAY 16th AT 10:30 A.M.
11:15:26AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I SENT A REQUEST IN FOR A CONTINUANCE,
11:15:28AM BUT I HAD THE WRONG VACATING REFERENCE NUMBER ON THE E-MAIL
11:15:32AM THAT YOU HAVE.
11:15:32AM FOR THE RECORD, IT'S VAC 19-06.
11:15:36AM THANK YOU.
11:15:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON
11:15:42AM ITEM NUMBER 67 BEING CONTINUED TO MAY 16?
11:15:47AM >>HARRY COHEN: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO MAY 16 AT 10:30 A.M.
11:15:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:15:51AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:15:52AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:15:56AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU.
11:15:56AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:15:57AM ITEM NUMBER 68.
11:16:00AM >>HARRY COHEN: IT APPEARS 68 IS ASKING TO BE WITHDRAWN.
11:16:03AM MOVE TO WITHDRAW FROM THE AGENDA.
11:16:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:16:06AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:16:07AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:16:08AM OPPOSED?
11:16:10AM ITEM NUMBER 69.
11:16:11AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:16:13AM COORDINATION, THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT ON THIS APPLICATION,
11:16:16AM AND WE'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO 5/16 AT 10:30 A.M.
11:16:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T BLAME YOU.
11:16:26AM MOVE TO CONTINUE, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO MAY 16 YEAR 2019 AT
11:16:29AM 10:30 A.M., NUMBER 69.
11:16:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:16:34AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:16:35AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:16:36AM OPPOSED?
11:16:37AM ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:16:42AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:16:45AM ITEM 70 IS A REVIEW HEARING FROM A DENIAL OF A SPECIAL USE
11:16:48AM PERMIT REQUEST.
11:16:50AM IT WAS DENIED BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC SPECIAL
11:16:53AM USE CRITERIA.
11:16:54AM CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THAT CRITERIA,
11:16:56AM AND I'M GOING TO PASS OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU.
11:17:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PETITIONER KNOWS
11:17:15AM THERE'S ONLY FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:17:16AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I WAS WAITING FOR HER TO COME UP HERE TO
11:17:19AM STATE THAT.
11:17:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:17:22AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:17:23AM JUST SO THE APPLICANT KNOWS, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR COUNCIL
11:17:26AM MEMBERS AVAILABLE TODAY.
11:17:27AM YOU NEED A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO HAVE A MOTION PASSED.
11:17:31AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANTED
11:17:36AM TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:17:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:17:38AM I THINK LEGAL IS TALKING TO THEM.
11:17:41AM MA'AM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON?
11:17:44AM YOU NEED TO COME TO THE MIKE.
11:17:46AM >> MY NAME IS DAWN RAYMOND.
11:17:49AM I'M REPRESENTING --
11:17:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU UNDERSTAND THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE
11:17:52AM SITTING UP HERE.
11:17:56AM DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH FOUR?
11:18:00AM >> YES, PLEASE.
11:18:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
11:18:08AM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:18:11AM THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR SU 1-18-42, PROPERTY AT
11:18:19AM 2212 EAST McBERRY STREET.
11:18:21AM McBERRY AND 22nd.
11:18:26AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
11:18:28AM THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, SPECIFIC PROPERTY FROM
11:18:32AM McBERRY.
11:18:33AM THIS IS ADJACENT ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY
11:18:38AM HOME ON THE EAST SIDE AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF McBERRY
11:18:43AM ACROSS THE STREET IS ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
11:18:45AM THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO OPEN A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY.
11:18:52AM THE CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY ITSELF, MAXIMUM SIZE OF THE
11:18:54AM ZONING OF RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT IS EIGHT BEDS.
11:18:57AM ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF 19.
11:19:00AM THAT'S THE WAIVER THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
11:19:02AM THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
11:19:03AM THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE IF THIS IS
11:19:05AM APPROVED AND THEY GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS --
11:19:08AM >>HARRY COHEN: HOW MANY DID YOU SAY IS THE NORMAL NUMBER
11:19:10AM ALLOWED?
11:19:10AM >>ERIC COTTON: MAXIMUM ALLOWED FOR A CONGREGATE CARE
11:19:12AM FACILITY IN RS-50 DISTRICT IS 8.
11:19:15AM >>HARRY COHEN: 8.
11:19:17AM AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR 19.
11:19:18AM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
11:19:19AM THIS IS A DRAFT SITE PLAN THAT STILL NEEDS TO GO THROUGH
11:19:23AM PERMITTING AND MEET ALL THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE
11:19:26AM BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
11:19:28AM TRANSPORTATION, EAST TAMPA AND SUCH.
11:19:30AM BUT THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE WAIVER FROM THE 8 --
11:19:33AM PEOPLE OF 8 BEDS TO A TOTAL OF 19 BEDS.
11:19:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:19:43AM IN THE VICINITY AREA, ARE THERE ANY OTHER FACILITIES LIKE
11:19:54AM THIS WITHIN CERTAIN RADIUS?
11:19:56AM >>ERIC COTTON: NO, SIR.
11:19:57AM THE DISTANCE SEPARATION IS 1200 LINEAR FEET, AND THEY HAVE
11:20:00AM NOT ASKED FOR THAT WAIVER.
11:20:02AM PER AHCA REQUIREMENTS, WHEN THEY DO THAT, WE DO OUR SEARCH
11:20:06AM AND FOR US THERE ARE NONE WITHIN 1200 FEET.
11:20:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THE REASON FOR 8 IN
11:20:13AM A RESIDENTIAL AREA, I GUESS, SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE
11:20:16AM CONFORMITY OF A STRUCTURE.
11:20:18AM I WOULD IMAGINE --
11:20:19AM >>ERIC COTTON: WELL, I THINK THE LIMIT FOR THE 8 IS IT'S
11:20:21AM STILL MORE OR LESS A SINGLE-FAMILY FEEL.
11:20:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
11:20:24AM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE NOW IS AN ADDITION IN THE BACK, WHICH
11:20:27AM EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT CHANGING THE LAND USE, BUT IT IMPLIES
11:20:30AM THAT THERE IS A LAND USE CHANGE, WITHOUT CHANGING THE
11:20:34AM PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL.
11:20:36AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHAIRMAN JUST SAID ABOUT THE VICINITY
11:20:40AM OF IT AND THERE'S COMMERCIAL ONE SIDE.
11:20:42AM HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE THERE ON THAT BLOCK?
11:20:46AM >>ERIC COTTON: THE BLOCK ITSELF IS NOT OVERLY DEVELOPED.
11:20:49AM THERE IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
11:20:51AM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
11:20:52AM AND THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE ADDITIONAL
11:20:57AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON THE SAME BLOCK FACE.
11:21:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:21:06AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:21:06AM PETITIONER? TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND WHY YOU WANT TO
11:21:18AM DO IT.
11:21:19AM >> WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE -- RIGHT NOW, IT'S CURRENTLY
11:21:21AM LICENSED ALF IS CURRENTLY LICENSED FOR SIX.
11:21:24AM WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND.
11:21:26AM IT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 2012 WITH SPOTLESS RECORD.
11:21:32AM IT'S NOT VERY DEVELOPED THAT AREA.
11:21:36AM EVEN BEHIND US IS AN EMPTY LOT THAT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR YEARS.
11:21:42AM SO I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
11:21:45AM WE'RE FENCED.
11:21:47AM WE'VE RECENTLY INSTALLED CAMERAS, AND I THINK THAT IT ALLOWS
11:21:54AM MORE AFFORDABLE CARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES NOT HAVE
11:22:00AM IT NOW.
11:22:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT WAS THE PRIMARY REASON
11:22:08AM FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TURNING YOUR REQUEST DOWN?
11:22:10AM WHAT WAS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
11:22:14AM TURNING THIS REQUEST DOWN?
11:22:16AM >>ERIC COTTON: I DIDN'T CATCH YOU.
11:22:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE ZONING
11:22:18AM ADMINISTRATOR --
11:22:19AM >>ERIC COTTON: FOR THE DENIAL?
11:22:21AM PER 27-132, WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE CRITERIA, IF YOU DON'T
11:22:25AM MEET THOSE CRITERIA, WHICH WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM OF 8,
11:22:29AM ADMINISTRATIVELY WE HAVE TO DENY THE REQUEST.
11:22:31AM AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND ASK FOR
11:22:35AM THE WAIVER.
11:22:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONER.
11:22:38AM YOU'RE SAYING YOU ARE LICENSED FOR SIX?
11:22:42AM >> RIGHT NOW, IT'S CURRENTLY LICENSED FOR SIX.
11:22:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: BUT YOU WANT TO MOVE UP TO 19?
11:22:46AM >> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
11:22:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HAVE YOU GOTTEN A LICENSE FOR THOSE
11:22:49AM ADDITIONAL SPACES THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING?
11:22:53AM >> NO.
11:22:53AM WE HAD RECENTLY ACQUIRED.
11:22:57AM THE WAY THAT IT WAS STRUCTURED BEFORE, YOU CAN ONLY GET IN
11:23:05AM SIX RESIDENTS.
11:23:05AM RIGHT NOW, AFTER MAKING SOME CHANGES, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
11:23:12AM MAKE IT UP TO THE 8 AND THEN EXPAND ON TO THE BACK TO
11:23:15AM CONTINUE TO GROW.
11:23:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:23:19AM WHAT GUARANTEE YOU HAVE THAT YOU CAN GET UP TO 19?
11:23:22AM YOU'RE GOING TO BE LICENSED FOR 19.
11:23:24AM >> WHAT GUARANTEE DO WE HAVE?
11:23:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: RIGHT.
11:23:27AM YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING FROM 6 TO 8, BUT YOU'RE --
11:23:31AM >> WE DID NOT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ZONED FOR IT CURRENTLY.
11:23:34AM WE'RE NOT LICENSED THROUGH AHCA FOR EIGHT.
11:23:38AM IT WAS ONLY LICENSED FOR SIX.
11:23:40AM BUT SINCE IT'S BEEN IN OPERATION IN 2012, IT'S BEEN AT 100%
11:23:45AM CAPACITY, AND THERE ARE NONSTOP CALLS FOR ADDITIONAL BEDS.
11:23:49AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS YOUR CAPACITY LEVEL?
11:23:51AM >> RIGHT NOW, IT'S SIX.
11:23:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: SIX.
11:23:53AM RIGHT.
11:23:54AM THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
11:23:55AM >> YES.
11:23:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AND -- BUT YOU DON'T HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT
11:24:00AM YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET LICENSED FOR 19.
11:24:06AM >> AS FAR AS LICENSING GOES AND AHCA GOES, ABSOLUTELY.
11:24:11AM WE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
11:24:12AM BUT THEY CAN'T LICENSE US A FACILITY UNTIL IT'S THERE.
11:24:17AM THEN THEY HAVE TO INSPECT IT AND SAY YEA OR NAY.
11:24:21AM RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE -- WE'RE NOT IN THE POSITION TO ASK
11:24:28AM AHCA TO GET LICENSED FOR 19 BECAUSE ZONING -- THE CURRENT
11:24:34AM ZONING IS ONLY FOR 8.
11:24:36AM WE CAN'T GO TO AHCA UNTIL WE GET THE CORRECT ZONING.
11:24:42AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. COHEN.
11:24:42AM >>HARRY COHEN: LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
11:24:48AM YOU'RE ASKING TO US ALLOW TO YOU MORE THAN DOUBLE THE SIZE
11:24:51AM OF YOUR OPERATION IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:24:54AM WHY SHOULD WE ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT WHEN OUR CODE SAYS THAT
11:24:57AM THE MOST THAT CAN BE THERE ARE EIGHT BEDS?
11:25:01AM >> THAT NEIGHBORHOOD -- I DO UNDERSTAND ON PAPER IT DOES SAY
11:25:07AM RESIDENTIAL.
11:25:07AM BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES, THERE ARE FOUR HOMES
11:25:11AM IN ADDITION TO OURS THAT MAKES FIVE HOMES ON THIS BLOCK.
11:25:14AM IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN THERE, WE'RE
11:25:23AM SEEING THE EMPTY LOT ACROSS THE STREET.
11:25:26AM WE SEE WHAT APPEARS TO BE LIKE A WAREHOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR
11:25:30AM TO US, THE EMPTY LOT BEHIND US.
11:25:32AM THE NEIGHBORS -- THE FEW NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ON THE BLOCK, WE
11:25:34AM HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM, AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY IN SUPPORT OF
11:25:38AM THIS CHANGE.
11:25:43AM >>FRANK REDDICK: DO YOU HAVE ANY OFFICIAL LETTER OF SUPPORT
11:25:45AM FROM THEM, THOSE NEIGHBORS?
11:25:47AM >> I DON'T, SIR.
11:25:52AM >>HARRY COHEN: IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'S SPEAKING AGAINST
11:25:55AM IT OR FOR IT OR ANYTHING?
11:25:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:26:00AM ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
11:26:05AM >> NO, SIR.
11:26:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:26:08AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 70?
11:26:18AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:26:18AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:26:20AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:26:21AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:26:23AM OPPOSED?
11:26:24AM ALL RIGHT.
11:26:25AM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:26:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING
11:26:35AM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION
11:26:39AM SU-1-18-42 BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE
11:26:44AM THAT PETITION, IF THE WAIVER IS GRANTED, IS CONSISTENT WITH
11:26:45AM THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION
11:26:47AM 27-129, SECTION 27-61B, AND 27-127B2.
11:26:55AM ANY OTHER FACTS --
11:26:59AM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:27:01AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:27:02AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
11:27:04AM OPPOSED?
11:27:06AM OKAY.
11:27:08AM >> THANK YOU.
11:27:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:27:15AM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:27:20AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:27:21AM THIS IS ALSO A REVIEW PETITION FROM A DENIAL OF A SPECIAL
11:27:25AM USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
11:27:28AM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING REVIEW.
11:27:29AM IT WAS ALSO DENIED BECAUSE IT MEANT THE SPECIFIC -- IT DID
11:27:32AM NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN THE CODE, WHICH CITY
11:27:35AM COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO WAIVE, AND I AM GOING TO PASS OUT
11:27:38AM SAMPLE MOTIONS.
11:27:46AM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:27:49AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:27:50AM THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR SU 1-19-16 FOR PROPERTY AT
11:27:56AM 3426 EAST LAMBRIGHT STREET.
11:28:03AM THE AREA MAP -- THIS AGAIN WAS DENIED BY THE ZONING
11:28:07AM ADMINISTRATOR.
11:28:07AM THEY ARE ASKING FOR TOTAL OF EIGHT BEDS WHICH THEY COULD DO
11:28:12AM IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
11:28:15AM PER CODE, SEPARATION DISTANCE OF 1200 FEET.
11:28:17AM THEY ARE ASKING FOR REDUCTION BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY, WHICH
11:28:21AM IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THIS PROPERTY, ACCORDING TO THE
11:28:26AM AHCA WEB PAGE, 3501 EAST KNOLLWOOD STREET, DISTANCE
11:28:31AM 316 FEET.
11:28:32AM THEY WOULD BE ASKING FOR THAT WAIVER.
11:28:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:28:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THIS FOR EVERYBODY'S
11:28:40AM BENEFIT.
11:28:41AM I HAVE VOTED CONSISTENTLY AGAINST THIS.
11:28:43AM I CAN TELL YOU WHERE ON TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD AND HAVANA AND
11:28:48AM THE ONE BEHIND JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
11:28:50AM ONE THAT CAME UP ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
11:28:53AM I DON'T WANT THE PETITIONER TO FEEL IN ANY WAY DISRESPECTED.
11:28:56AM I'M JUST TELLING AHEAD THAT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS
11:28:58AM BECAUSE NOW THERE'S ONLY FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:29:01AM I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ANY REASON
11:29:03AM OTHER THAN FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THE 1200 FEET.
11:29:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GIVEN THAT MR. MIRANDA SAID THAT I THINK
11:29:12AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PETITIONER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
11:29:14AM LIMITATION IS OF HAVING FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.
11:29:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
11:29:25AM >> NO, SIR, EXCEPT I'LL REITERATE WHAT I SAID AT THE
11:29:28AM BEGINNING OF THE OTHER HEARING, TO GET COUNCIL --
11:29:31AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE PETITIONER.
11:29:33AM >>ERIC COTTON: NEED TO HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR PEOPLE FOR THE
11:29:35AM VOTE.
11:29:35AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MA'AM, ARE YOU THE PETITIONER?
11:29:38AM >> YES.
11:29:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: AS WE STATED WITH THE PREVIOUS CASE WE JUST
11:29:44AM HAD, THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS UP HERE.
11:29:48AM HE NORMALLY HAVE SEVEN.
11:29:50AM NOW, YOU HAVE THE CHOICE WHERE YOU CAN CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE
11:29:55AM WE ONLY HAVE FOUR HERE INSTEAD OF A FULL BODY, OR YOU CAN GO
11:30:02AM FORWARD AND TAKE YOUR CHANCES WITH THE FOUR --
11:30:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR
11:30:09AM THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD.
11:30:10AM YOU ARE ALLOWED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
11:30:15AM HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND YOU HAD INDICATIONS THAT YOU MAY
11:30:19AM NOT GET A UNANIMOUS VOTE TODAY.
11:30:23AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ONE MORE JUST ARRIVED.
11:30:24AM YOU HAVE FIVE NOW.
11:30:28AM >> THANK YOU.
11:30:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE FIVE NOW.
11:30:30AM IF IT'S STILL A REQUEST YOU WANT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE
11:30:33AM THAT REQUEST.
11:30:34AM COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE IT, WITH ONLY FOUR, WITH A
11:30:37AM UNANIMOUS VOTE, COUNCIL WOULD GIVE YOU THAT CONTINUANCE IF
11:30:41AM YOU ASKED FOR IT.
11:30:42AM WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE.
11:30:44AM PLEASE LET COUNCIL KNOW WHAT YOU WISH TO DO.
11:30:46AM >> I WISH TO CONTINUE.
11:30:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:30:50AM >> MY NAME IS CATHERINE MUKWELLE.
11:30:52AM I AM A MEDICARE PROVIDER.
11:30:56AM PREVIOUSLY I APPLIED FOR A PERMIT TO OPEN A SMALL
11:31:01AM RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, AND I WAS DENIED JUST BECAUSE OF THE
11:31:04AM FACT THAT I DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA BECAUSE THERE WAS
11:31:07AM ANOTHER GROUP HOME WHICH WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
11:31:10AM STREET, BUT I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE OVER THERE AND
11:31:15AM THE REASON IS, THE OTHER CATEGORY OF THE PERSON RUNNING THE
11:31:20AM FACILITY IS ALF.
11:31:23AM AND THE ALF DID -- DEAL WITH THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FROM
11:31:28AM WHAT WE DO.
11:31:30AM THE OTHER ONE IS ALF ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT DEALS
11:31:33AM WITH THE ELDERLY.
11:31:36AM BUT MY FACILITY IS GOING TO BE DEALING WITH INDIVIDUAL,
11:31:39AM YOUNG INDIVIDUAL WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, WHICH
11:31:42AM ACTUALLY NEED A PLACE TO STAY.
11:31:45AM AND THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON WHY I DECIDED TO USE THAT
11:31:47AM FACILITY TO RUN THAT GROUP HOME BECAUSE IT IS TOTALLY
11:31:52AM DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE OTHER PERSON IS ACTUALLY DOING.
11:31:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE AGE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT
11:32:01AM WILL BE LIVING AT THE FACILITY?
11:32:02AM >> SAY THAT AGAIN ONE MORE TIME.
11:32:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE AGE.
11:32:04AM YOU SAY YOU.
11:32:05AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID YOU.
11:32:07AM >> YES.
11:32:07AM I WORK WITH MUKWELLE HEALTH CARE SERVICES.
11:32:11AM IT'S MY BUSINESS, AND I CONTRACT WITH AGENCY FOR PERSONS
11:32:14AM WITH DISABILITIES.
11:32:14AM SO WE WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES
11:32:18AM AND BEHAVIORAL DISORDER.
11:32:19AM AS SUCH, I DECIDED TO OPEN A GROUP HOME IN THAT AREA KNOWING
11:32:24AM FULLY WELL THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER FACILITY ADJACENT TO WHERE
11:32:29AM I AM.
11:32:30AM BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ALF AND THE GROUP HOME
11:32:34AM IS THAT THE ALF THAT IS AROUND THAT AREA IS DEALING WITH
11:32:38AM ELDERLY FOLKS FROM 70 YEARS AND ABOVE, WHERE I'M DEALING
11:32:42AM WITH CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS WITH DEVELOPMENT
11:32:45AM DISABILITIES.
11:32:46AM THAT NEEDS A PLACE TO STAY, TO GIVE A -- TO THE PARENTS
11:32:55AM KNOWING THEY CAN GO TO WORK KNOWING FULLY WELL THEY HAVE A
11:32:57AM CHILD THAT IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FACILITY.
11:33:01AM >> I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD MY QUESTION.
11:33:03AM MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THE AGE RANGE OF THESE --
11:33:07AM >> 12 TO 17.
11:33:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: 12 TO 17.
11:33:10AM >> YES.
11:33:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE CAPACITY LEVEL YOU'RE LOOKING
11:33:12AM AT?
11:33:13AM HOW MANY PEOPLE?
11:33:15AM >> 8.
11:33:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: JUST 8 PEOPLE.
11:33:16AM >> YES, THAT'S ALL.
11:33:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OKAY.
11:33:21AM WHY DID -- WHAT WAS YOUR REASON FOR SELECTING THIS LOCATION?
11:33:28AM >> WELL, I CHOOSE THAT LOCATION -- ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW
11:33:31AM THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER FACILITY THERE.
11:33:38AM I DEAL WITH AHCA BUT I DEAL WITH APD.
11:33:42AM AND WHEN THAT GUY CALLED ME, BECAUSE HE CALLED ME AND ASKED
11:33:45AM ME WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS I'M GOING TO DO, WHAT TYPE OF GROUP
11:33:50AM HOME.
11:33:50AM I TOLD HIM I WAS DEALING WITH CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS.
11:33:55AM HE SAID, OH, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM BECAUSE I'M DEALING
11:33:58AM ONLY WITH THE ELDERLY FOLKS, SO WE DON'T DEAL WITH -- WE
11:34:01AM DON'T HAVE THE SAME CATEGORY OF PLANS TO WORK TOGETHER.
11:34:07AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HAVE YOU MET WITH ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN
11:34:08AM THE VICINITY OF THIS LOCATION THAT YOU WANT TO PUT THIS
11:34:12AM GROUP HOME?
11:34:14AM >> YES, I TALKED WITH THE MANAGER.
11:34:15AM HE CALLED ME THREE TIMES --
11:34:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ACTUALLY, RESIDENTS.
11:34:19AM >> IN THAT AREA?
11:34:20AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YEAH, PEOPLE THAT OWN HOMES AND PROPERTY IN
11:34:22AM THAT VICINITY.
11:34:23AM >> YES, I SPOKE WITH A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE AROUND MY
11:34:27AM AREA, AND I DISCUSSED WITH THEM BECAUSE THIS OTHER
11:34:30AM DEVELOPMENT I WAS DOING THERE WAS FIXING TO PLACE -- PUT IN
11:34:35AM FENCES AND ALL OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE THE LAND VERY
11:34:40AM BEAUTIFUL, AND THEY CAN EVEN SEE THE TYPE OF WORK I'VE DONE
11:34:43AM IN THAT AREA AND MOST OF THEM, THE ONES THAT APPRECIATE WHAT
11:34:48AM I HAVE DONE IN THAT AREA, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM
11:34:51AM WITH ME, AT LEAST THAT APPROACHED ME, BUT THE GUIDING
11:34:56AM CONCERN, RUNNING THE ALF PROGRAM, CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THEY
11:35:00AM HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
11:35:02AM BECAUSE MOST OF THEM CALL ME WHEN THEY GO IN.
11:35:04AM I SENT OUT THE LETTER NOTIFYING THEM WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE
11:35:08AM PLACE, IN THE FACILITY, WHAT WOULD BE TAKING PLACE IN THE
11:35:12AM FACILITY.
11:35:13AM >>HARRY COHEN: I JUST WANT TO GET BACK TO THE THRESHOLD
11:35:15AM QUESTION FOR A MINUTE.
11:35:17AM EVEN WITH JUST FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT, YOU HAVE A
11:35:21AM RIGHT TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE IF YOU WANT A COUNCIL OF
11:35:26AM SEVEN.
11:35:26AM YOU HAVE TO GET FOUR VOTES REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE ARE
11:35:29AM FIVE PEOPLE HERE OR SEVEN PEOPLE HERE.
11:35:31AM SO IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, YOU
11:35:33AM HAD ORIGINALLY SAID YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE WHEN THERE WERE
11:35:36AM FOUR.
11:35:37AM NOW THERE'S FIVE.
11:35:37AM BUT WE STILL NEED TO SETTLE THAT, I THINK, BEFORE WE GO
11:35:42AM FORWARD ANY MORE.
11:35:45AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF SHE MEANT TO CONTINUE
11:35:48AM TO --
11:35:49AM >>HARRY COHEN: RIGHT, WE NEED TO CLARIFY IT.
11:35:51AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE?
11:35:57AM >> IF I DECIDE TO CHANGE MY MIND, WHERE WOULD I OPEN?
11:36:02AM >>HARRY COHEN: NO, IT WOULD JUST BE TO POSTPONE THE HEARING
11:36:06AM UNTIL THERE ARE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.
11:36:08AM IT WOULDN'T RESOLVE ITSELF TODAY.
11:36:10AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: BECAUSE YOU NEED FOUR VOTES WHETHER THERE'S
11:36:13AM FOUR OR FIVE OR SEVEN.
11:36:15AM FOR IT TO PASS.
11:36:19AM >>FRANK REDDICK: KEEP IN MIND, IF YOU DECIDE TO CONTINUE
11:36:27AM THIS ANOTHER DAY, IT PROBABLY WON'T BE A MONTH ARE TWO.
11:36:36AM YOU'LL HAVE FOUR NEW MEMBERS UP HERE, NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:36:42AM ALL THAT YOU NEED TO WEIGH AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
11:36:45AM THE FOUR OF US AIN'T GOING TO BE SITTING UP HERE.
11:36:49AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR NEW ONES.
11:36:55AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING WHEN YOU MAKE A
11:37:02AM DECISION.
11:37:02AM WAITING ON YOU.
11:37:07AM >> OKAY.
11:37:08AM I WILL WAIT.
11:37:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE?
11:37:13AM >> I'LL CONTINUE.
11:37:16AM >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
11:37:18AM WELL, THEN WHY DON'T WE MAKE A MOTION FOR A DATE IN THE
11:37:26AM FUTURE WHEN THIS COULD BE HEARD.
11:37:29AM MAYBE MAY 16th AT 10:30 A.M.?
11:37:33AM JUNE 6 AT 10:30 A.M.
11:37:48AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO GO
11:37:51AM TO THE PUBLIC AND ASK ANYONE WHO OBJECT TO THIS BEING
11:37:56AM CONTINUED, YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.
11:37:59AM >>HARRY COHEN: JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION
11:38:01AM TO CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 6th AT 10:30 A.M.
11:38:04AM I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD ONLY BE ABOUT THE
11:38:08AM CONTINUANCE, NOT THE MERITS OF THE THING.
11:38:11AM >> CORRECT.
11:38:11AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT, MA'AM.
11:38:13AM YOU CAN STEP ASIDE.
11:38:14AM WE'LL HEAR THOSE WHO OBJECT TO THIS BEING CONTINUED.
11:38:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:38:27AM MY NAME IS RUTH FLEMMING.
11:38:39AM I LIVE AT 3605 EAST LAMBRIGHT STREET.
11:38:46AM I AM PRESIDENT OF WOODLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, OF
11:38:51AM WHICH WE HAVE SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBERS PRESENT THIS MORNING
11:38:55AM FOR THIS HEARING.
11:38:59AM AND WE OBJECT OF THIS GROUP HOME BEING PUT IN OUR RESIDENCE.
11:39:05AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WAIT A MINUTE, MS. FLEMMING.
11:39:07AM BECAUSE SHE IS REQUESTING TO CONTINUE THIS, THE ONLY THING
11:39:14AM WE CAN HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO GOING TO SPEAK WHETHER YOU
11:39:17AM SUPPORT OR OBJECT TO THIS BEING CONTINUED.
11:39:24AM >> WE OBJECT TO IT BEING CONTINUED.
11:39:27AM WE WANT TO DO IT TODAY.
11:39:28AM WE CAME.
11:39:29AM WE MADE PREPARATIONS TODAY TO COME BECAUSE WE SAW THE SIGN
11:39:35AM AND EVERYTHING ON THE CORNER.
11:39:38AM SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO KEEP COMING DOWN HERE BECAUSE
11:39:48AM MOST OF US, SOME WORKING, HAVE TO GET OFF FROM WORK AND
11:39:51AM EVERYTHING.
11:39:51AM SO WE THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SETTLE THIS TODAY.
11:39:57AM UNDERSTAND, THIS HAS BEEN DOWN HERE TWO OR THREE TIMES PRIOR
11:40:02AM TO TODAY, AND THIS IS A LITTLE OVER THE TOP HERE FOR US TO
11:40:11AM HAVE TO KEEP CHANGING AND CHANGING AND CHANGING.
11:40:17AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:40:18AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS --
11:40:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:40:42AM I'M ALVIN JAMES MOSES MOORE.
11:40:46AM I'VE BEEN IN MY COMMUNITY ABOUT 53 YEARS.
11:40:49AM I'VE ENJOYED MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE MOST OF US ARE --
11:40:57AM RETIREMENT, VERY FEW WORK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:40:59AM WE HAVE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:41:03AM WE HAVE A PARK RIGHT UP THE STREET.
11:41:04AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME KEEP REMINDING EVERYBODY, WE KNOW
11:41:11AM WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE MERITS OF THIS CASE.
11:41:14AM THE ONLY THING WE'RE ABLE TO HEAR RIGHT NOW, BY LAW, IF YOU
11:41:21AM OBJECT TO THIS BEING CONTINUED --
11:41:24AM >> I OBJECT.
11:41:24AM >>FRANK REDDICK: OR YOU SUPPORT IT BEING CONTINUED.
11:41:27AM THAT IS THE ONLY THING WE CAN HEAR RIGHT NOW.
11:41:29AM THEN THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION.
11:41:32AM >> THANK YOU.
11:41:33AM I OBJECT TO IT MOVING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:41:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:41:41AM >> MY NAME IS LEVI FLEMMING.
11:41:43AM I LIVE AT 3605 EAST LAMBRIGHT STREET, AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY
11:41:52AM OBJECT.
11:41:53AM THANK YOU.
11:41:55AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:42:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:42:01AM MY NAME IS JARED BALLOON.
11:42:04AM I LIVE AT 3415 EAST FERN STREET.
11:42:08AM AND I DO OBJECT TO THIS BEING CONTINUED.
11:42:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:42:16AM MY NAME IS MATTHEW JAMES.
11:42:19AM I LIVE AT 3620 EAST LAMBRIGHT STREET, AND I DO OBJECT TO
11:42:23AM THIS CONTINUANCE.
11:42:29AM >> MY NAME IS YVONNE DOUGLAS.
11:42:30AM I LIVE AT 3409 EAST KNOLLWOOD, AND I OBJECT TO THIS BEING
11:42:37AM CONTINUED.
11:42:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:42:42AM MY NAME IS ANTOINETTE PETERSON.
11:42:45AM I LIVE AT 3607 EAST DIANA, AND I ALSO HAVE TWO OTHER
11:42:49AM PROPERTIES THAT I'M ASSOCIATED WITH IN PROXIMITY.
11:42:53AM TWO ACTUALLY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
11:43:00AM AND I REQUEST THAT THE CONTINUANCE NOT BE GRANTED.
11:43:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:43:12AM BRIAN EVERETT.
11:43:13AM I LIVE AT 6508 NORTH 34th STREET.
11:43:17AM ON THE CORNER OF 34th STREET AND KNOLLWOOD.
11:43:20AM I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1968.
11:43:23AM AND I OBJECT.
11:43:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:43:25AM ANYONE ELSE?
11:43:26AM I THINK WE HAD A MOTION.
11:43:34AM >>HARRY COHEN: I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SECONDED OR NOT.
11:43:36AM IT WAS SECONDED.
11:43:37AM OKAY.
11:43:37AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME JUST SAY THIS, I'M NOT GOING TO
11:43:40AM SUPPORT THE MOTION TO CONTINUE.
11:43:42AM I KNOW THAT THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE
11:43:52AM ZONING AND VARIANCE REVIEW AND PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE TIME TO
11:43:58AM BE DOWN HERE AND IT VOICE THEIR OPINION AND THEY HAVE BEEN
11:44:05AM DENIED THAT OPPORTUNITY.
11:44:06AM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL SLATE.
11:44:09AM BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION AND HOPE THAT
11:44:12AM WE MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TODAY.
11:44:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SEE THERE IS AN ATTORNEY FROM THE CITY
11:44:22AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REGARDING A CONTINUATION AND THE PROCESS.
11:44:25AM I DON'T WANT TO IN ANY WAY WEIGH IN.
11:44:28AM I SAID IT EARLIER.
11:44:29AM MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID, BUT I FEEL I HAVE TO TELL THE
11:44:32AM PUBLIC, WHAT IT WAS, AND I SAID I WAS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT
11:44:37AM IT BECAUSE OF MY PAST HISTORY IN VOTING ON ANYTHING WITHIN
11:44:40AM 1200 FEET.
11:44:41AM I STATED THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:44:43AM BUT I DO IT, AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF I KNEW THIS WAS
11:44:46AM GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY, YOU'VE GOT TO BE
11:44:48AM STRAIGHTFORWARD.
11:44:49AM AND I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMING FORWARD, I HOPE IF
11:44:53AM IT'S CONTINUED THEY COME BACK.
11:44:54AM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
11:44:56AM I WAS ACTUALLY -- I DID NOT COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD YOUR
11:45:01AM STATEMENT WHETHER YOU HISTORICALLY DENIED THEM OR YOU WERE
11:45:03AM PLANNING ON DENYING THAT.
11:45:05AM BASED UPON THAT, YOU ARE BASICALLY DOWN TO FOUR POSSIBLE
11:45:07AM POTENTIAL VOTES, WHICH PUTS YOU IN ESSENTIALLY THE SAME
11:45:10AM POSITION.
11:45:11AM SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS GOING FORWARD WHEN YOU HAVE ONE
11:45:14AM COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SAID HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS
11:45:17AM WITHOUT HEARING THE TESTIMONY AT THIS POINT.
11:45:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S
11:45:23AM HERE, BUT I HAVE TO DO WHAT I THINK IS BEST GOING FORWARD.
11:45:28AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SO TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT WE
11:45:32AM PROCEED.
11:45:32AM >>REBECCA KERT: I AM CONCERNED IF YOU PROCEED BECAUSE THEN
11:45:34AM YOU'RE BACK DOWN TO ESSENTIALLY FOUR POSSIBLE VOTES, WHICH
11:45:37AM PUTS YOU IN THE SAME POSITION OF YOUR RULES AS WHEN IT'S A
11:45:41AM MANDATORY ONE.
11:45:43AM I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT, BUT I DO WANT TO LET
11:45:48AM YOU KNOW -- AND THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA, FOR CLARIFYING THAT,
11:45:50AM BECAUSE I WAS RUNNING IT THROUGH MY MIND, AND I WASN'T SURE
11:45:52AM I COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING -- BUT BASED
11:45:55AM UPON THAT I DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THIS GOING FORWARD TODAY
11:45:56AM WITH JUST FOUR MEMBERS WHO COULD POTENTIALLY VOTE FOR IT.
11:46:02AM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
11:46:08AM THERE'S A MOTION HERE.
11:46:14AM LET'S SUPPOSE THE MOTION IS DENIED.
11:46:15AM >>REBECCA KERT: IF THE MOTION IS DENIED AND GOES FORWARD IT
11:46:19AM GOES FORWARD.
11:46:19AM I WAS ASKED A QUESTION SO I FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO LET
11:46:23AM YOU KNOW I HAVE CONCERNS BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOUR RULES
11:46:26AM STATE IF YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR POSSIBLE MEMBERS WHO VOTE ON
11:46:30AM SOMETHING, CONTINUANCE IS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
11:46:32AM THERE WAS A CONTINUANCE.
11:46:33AM BASED ON MR. MIRANDA STATING ON THE RECORD HE WILL NOT
11:46:37AM SUPPORT IT, YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY IN THE SAME POSITION.
11:46:39AM >>FRANK REDDICK: IF IT'S DENIED WE'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION.
11:46:44AM >>YVONNE CAPIN: SHE SAYS WE CAN'T.
11:46:47AM WE'RE BASICALLY BACK TO FOUR VOTES.
11:46:49AM BY THAT, THEY ARE GRANTED A CONTINUANCE BY RIGHT.
11:46:52AM >>REBECCA KERT: MY RECOMMENDATION TO -- I'M SORRY IF I'M NOT
11:46:55AM BEING CLEAR.
11:46:57AM I DO WANT TO BE HONEST.
11:47:01AM I HAVE LEGAL CONCERNS WITH YOU PROCEEDING FORWARD TODAY
11:47:03AM BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOUR RULES STATE IF YOU HAVE FOUR
11:47:07AM MEMBERS AND THE PETITIONER ASKS FOR A CONTINUANCE, IT'S AS
11:47:12AM OF A MATTER OF RIGHT.
11:47:14AM MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TO BE CLEAR WOULD BE THAT YOU GRANT
11:47:17AM THIS REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
11:47:19AM IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY GRANT THEM, BUT I DO
11:47:23AM THINK YOU'RE IN SOMEWHAT OF A DIFFICULT POSITION.
11:47:26AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WELL, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, WE TAKE A
11:47:31AM FIVE-MINUTE RECESS BECAUSE I JUST GOT WORD THAT MR. SUAREZ
11:47:35AM IS COMING BACK.
11:47:38AM SO THAT WOULD GIVE US SIX.
11:47:41AM >>HARRY COHEN: WE COULD ALSO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ONE.
11:47:46AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS, ALLOW MR. SUAREZ
11:47:50AM TO COME BACK AND HE SHOULD BE --
11:47:52AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.
11:47:55AM >>REBECCA KERT: THAT CERTAINLY WOULD ALLAY MY CONCERNS.
11:47:57AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS AND WAIT FOR
11:48:00AM MR. SUAREZ TO ARRIVE.
11:48:01AM ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:48:05AM 72.
11:48:08AM SORRY.
11:48:30AM >>KRISTIN MORA: KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:48:32AM GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
11:48:33AM I ACTUALLY HAVE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON THIS.
11:48:36AM THE RESOLUTION WAS AMENDED TO THE JUNE 1st DATE.
11:48:40AM THIS IS THE TECHNICAL MANUAL THAT GOES WITH THE NEW TREE
11:48:43AM CODE THAT YOU JUST ADOPTED.
11:48:45AM IT WILL HAVE THE JUNE 1st DATE SO IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT
11:48:49AM THE SAME TIME AS THE NEW TREE CODE.
11:48:52AM THERE ALSO ARE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE REVISED ONE ATTACHED.
11:48:55AM IT'S BEEN UNIFIED TO MARRY TO THE NEW CODE.
11:49:35AM >>HARRY COHEN: I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
11:49:38AM >>FRANK REDDICK: PLEASE DO.
11:49:41AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:49:44AM >>REBECCA KERT: THAT IS THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, JUST FOR
11:49:49AM CLARIFICATION.
11:49:50AM >> SUAREZ?
11:49:51AM >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
11:49:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
11:49:53AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HERE.
11:49:54AM >> CAPIN?
11:49:55AM MIRANDA?
11:49:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
11:49:57AM >> VIERA?
11:49:58AM >>HARRY COHEN: I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
11:50:01AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:50:02AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:50:03AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:50:05AM OPPOSED?
11:50:05AM ITEM NUMBER 73.
11:50:15AM >>CHUCK WEBER: CHUCK WEBER, WATER DEPARTMENT.
11:50:18AM LIQUID FERRIC SULFATE IS A COAGULANT WE USE IN THE WATER
11:50:24AM TREATMENT PROCESS.
11:50:25AM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:50:25AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:50:27AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:50:28AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:50:30AM OPPOSED?
11:50:30AM ALL RIGHT.
11:50:30AM 74.
11:50:52AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, DEPARTMENT OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET
11:50:53AM MANAGEMENT.
11:50:54AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THE
11:50:56AM CITYWIDE ELECTRICAL CONTRACT.
11:50:58AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:51:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:51:03AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:51:04AM GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
11:51:05AM SECONDED BY MR. COHEN.
11:51:07AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:51:08AM OPPOSED?
11:51:08AM ITEM NUMBER 75.
11:51:10AM NUMBER 75.
11:51:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:51:26AM MARK WILFALK, DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE AND ENVIRONMENTAL
11:51:28AM PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
11:51:29AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING OUR
11:51:32AM COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS FUELING STATION.
11:51:35AM PRETTY STRAIGHT.
11:51:36AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:51:36AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION BY MR. COHEN.
11:51:39AM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:51:40AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:51:41AM ITEM NUMBER 76.
11:51:49AM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:51:50AM >> SECOND.
11:51:50AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. COHEN.
11:51:52AM SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:51:54AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
11:51:56AM OPPOSED?
11:51:57AM ALL RIGHT.
11:51:59AM ITEM NUMBER 77.
11:52:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:52:05AM JEAN DUNCAN WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES
11:52:08AM DEPARTMENT.
11:52:08AM THERE WAS A MOTION REGARDING SOME CONCERNS THAT ONE OF OUR
11:52:15AM RESIDENTS POSED AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT SPEEDING AROUND
11:52:18AM THE POTTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
11:52:20AM I'VE GOT A GOOD-NEWS RESPONSE FOR YOU TODAY.
11:52:23AM THIS SCHOOL IS LOCATED ALONG THE 34th STREET CORRIDOR OF
11:52:28AM WHERE WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW A MAJOR
11:52:32AM CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
11:52:34AM IT'S GOING TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL STREET LIGHTING, TRAFFIC
11:52:38AM CALMING, OTHER ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR TO MAKE IT
11:52:42AM SAFER.
11:52:43AM AND AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, WE HAD PLANNED TO UPGRADE THE
11:52:49AM SCHOOL ZONE ALONG POTTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
11:52:51AM SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO ACCELERATE THAT PORTION OF THE
11:52:58AM PROJECT, AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA -- I'LL
11:53:03AM PUT THIS ON THE ELMO HERE -- YOU CAN SEE SOME ASSORTED
11:53:07AM SIGNAGE ON THERE, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS
11:53:10AM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT THE OLDER OUTDATED STATIC SIGNS.
11:53:14AM WE'LL BE PUTTING IN SCHOOL FLASHERS.
11:53:16AM THOSE SCHOOL FLASHERS WILL BE ABLE TO BE TIMED BASED ON THE
11:53:22AM SCHOOL SCHEDULES THAT, OF COURSE, CHANGE EVERY YEAR AND THEN
11:53:24AM THE STATIC SIGNS BECOME OUTDATED.
11:53:27AM SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BE TIMED DURING THE SCHOOL HOURS SO
11:53:31AM THAT WHEN THE SCHOOL ZONE IS A 15-MILE AN HOUR CONDITION,
11:53:35AM THE FLASHERS WILL BE TIMED TO OPERATE DURING THAT TIME.
11:53:37AM WE'LL ALSO UPGRADE ALL OF THE EXISTING SIGNAGE, PUT PAVEMENT
11:53:43AM MARKINGS ON THE ROADWAY TO GIVE ADVANCE WARNING TO THE
11:53:46AM DRIVERS, AND WE PLAN TO HAVE THIS DONE IN THREE MONTHS OR
11:53:50AM LESS IN TIME FOR THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR TO START IN THE FALL.
11:53:52AM SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BRING SOME COMFORT TO THOSE
11:53:58AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPEEDING.
11:53:59AM AGAIN, WITH THE CORRIDOR PROJECT THAT WILL FOLLOW NEXT YEAR,
11:54:03AM ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CALMING WILL BE BROUGHT IN THROUGH THAT
11:54:07AM PROJECT FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, WHICH WE HOPE WILL AGAIN
11:54:11AM HAVE SOME POSITIVE BENEFIT FOR THE SCHOOL AREA.
11:54:15AM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. DUNCAN, THANK YOU FOR GIVING SOME
11:54:19AM ATTENTION TO THIS.
11:54:19AM THIS WAS JUST RECENTLY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION ABOUT THE
11:54:27AM SPEEDING AND IT BEING IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
11:54:30AM I WENT THROUGH THERE THE OTHER DAY JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AND I
11:54:36AM SEE WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD PUT ONE OF THOSE -- I DON'T
11:54:40AM KNOW WHAT THEY CALL THEM --
11:54:42AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: RADAR DISPLAY SIGNS?
11:54:44AM >>FRANK REDDICK: YES.
11:54:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
11:54:47AM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOPEFULLY THIS WOULD IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC
11:54:50AM SAFETY FOR THOSE KIDS THAT ARE ATTENDING POTTER ELEMENTARY
11:54:54AM SCHOOL.
11:54:54AM WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE PROBLEM THAT THEY ARE HAVING IS
11:54:58AM BETWEEN THE MORNING TIME AND WHEN SCHOOL IS JUST TAKING IN
11:55:04AM AND THE AFTERNOON WHEN THEY BASICALLY GETTING OUT.
11:55:07AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
11:55:08AM >>FRANK REDDICK: I HAVE NOTICED THE SPEEDING BECAUSE BEFORE
11:55:12AM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN.
11:55:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
11:55:14AM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT I'M FINDING, THEY ARE RUNNING THAT
11:55:17AM FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN.
11:55:20AM I'M JUST GLAD THAT YOU TOOK IMMEDIATE ATTENTION TO THIS.
11:55:26AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED BY THE TIME THE NEXT
11:55:29AM SCHOOL YEAR COME AROUND.
11:55:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
11:55:32AM THANK THE TPD FOLKS.
11:55:33AM THEY WENT OUT AND ADDED SOME ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.
11:55:35AM SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS IS
11:55:39AM GOING TO BE A SAFER CONTINUE FOR THESE STUDENTS.
11:55:41AM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
11:55:43AM WELL, THANKS A LOT.
11:55:44AM YOU'RE UP FOR 78, TOO.
11:55:47AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
11:55:48AM WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE FOUR E SCOOTER, MOTORIZED
11:55:54AM SCOOTER OPERATING CONTRACTS FROM OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
11:55:58AM THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
11:56:02AM AND SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE INTEREST
11:56:07AM BY THE PUBLIC OF HAVING OTHER MODE CHOICES, PEOPLE WANTING
11:56:10AM TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM OF THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, HOW TO
11:56:14AM GET AROUND WITHOUT BEING IN A VEHICLE AND HAVING SOME OTHER
11:56:18AM CHOICES.
11:56:18AM BUT ALL THOSE THINGS COME WITH A LEARNING CURVE AND WITH
11:56:21AM SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, WHICH YOU CERTAINLY DON'T WANT
11:56:24AM TO SEE.
11:56:25AM SO BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING INTEREST FROM VENDORS COMING IN
11:56:29AM AND WANTING TO SET UP SHOP WITH THEIR SCOOTERS, AND I KNOW
11:56:33AM SOME OF THEM REACHED OUT TO SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AS
11:56:36AM WELL, WE DECIDED TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH.
11:56:38AM I THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PILOT
11:56:42AM PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE PLANNED, THE RESEARCH WE DID IN TERMS
11:56:45AM OF OTHER PROBLEMS, OTHER CITIES WERE HAVING.
11:56:48AM I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, AND THEN YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO ASK
11:56:52AM ANY QUESTIONS.
11:56:53AM IF YOU'D LIKE, I HAVE A SUMMARY OF THAT PILOT PROGRAM THAT
11:56:58AM I'LL HAND OUT TO YOU.
11:57:00AM THIS ISN'T INTENDED TO THROW TOO MUCH INFORMATION AT ONCE.
11:57:04AM IT IS A GO-TO DOCUMENT, IF YOU WANT TO PERUSE IT AT SOME
11:57:07AM POINT IN TIME, IT OUTLINES OUR PROGRAM THAT I THOUGHT YOU
11:57:10AM MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.
11:57:11AM VERY QUICKLY, AS I SAID, WE WERE HAVING SOME INTEREST OF THE
11:57:27AM PUBLIC AND OF THE VENDORS TO COME INTO THE CITY TO SET UP A
11:57:32AM PROGRAM.
11:57:32AM WHAT WE FOUND WITH OTHER CITIES IS THAT THEY WERE HAVING
11:57:36AM THESE FOLKS COME IN WITHOUT ANY FRAMEWORK AT ALL AND
11:57:44AM WREAKING HAVOC ON THE DIFFERENT CITIES, BAD HEADLINES OF
11:57:47AM IMPROPER BEHAVIOR, PEOPLE GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH THE
11:57:50AM SCOOTERS, AND THEY WERE GETTING LEFT AROUND ON SIDEWALKS,
11:57:52AM PEOPLE THROWING THEM ACROSS BRIDGES BECAUSE THEY WERE
11:57:55AM GETTING ANNOYED WITH THEM, ALL KINDS OF BAD THINGS.
11:57:58AM SO CERTAINLY THESE COMPANIES DO NOT WANT TO CONTINUE THAT
11:58:01AM KIND OF BUSINESS MODEL.
11:58:02AM I THINK THEY LEARNED THEIR LESSONS AS WELL ABOUT COMING IN
11:58:08AM IN A MORE RESPONSIBLE FASHION AND HAVING THESE SCOOTERS BE
11:58:12AM ACCEPTED IN A MORE POSITIVE WAY.
11:58:14AM WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH AND FOUND THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA,
11:58:20AM CALIFORNIA, HAD A VERY GOOD PROGRAM THAT WE TOOK A LOT OF
11:58:25AM THEIR LESSONS LEARNED FROM THAT AND DECIDED TO BE PROACTIVE
11:58:30AM WITH THE SITUATION AND SET UP A PILOT PROGRAM.
11:58:32AM IT IS A ONE-YEAR PILOT PROGRAM, WHERE WE CAN SEE HOW THESE
11:58:35AM SCOOTERS ARE GOING TO OPERATE WITHIN OUR -- ON OUR SIDEWALKS
11:58:41AM WITH OUR OTHER MODES WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
11:58:43AM THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGING ASPECTS OF THIS IS CURRENTLY,
11:58:46AM THE FLORIDA STATUTES ONLY ALLOW A PROVISION FOR CITIES TO
11:58:52AM PASS AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW SCOOTERS ON THE SIDEWALKS ONLY.
11:58:55AM THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE AT ALL UNLESS THE CITY PASSES
11:59:00AM AN ORDINANCE AND EVEN THEN WE CAN ONLY ALLOW THEM ON THE
11:59:03AM SIDEWALKS AND NOT ON THE BICYCLE LANES OR LOW-SPEED ROADS.
11:59:07AM WE EXPECT BECAUSE OF LOBBYING THAT'S GOING ON IN
11:59:11AM TALLAHASSEE, THAT THERE WILL BE SOME LEGISLATION THAT WILL
11:59:13AM COME OUT THIS SESSION, POTENTIALLY, THAT WILL PROBABLY
11:59:17AM CHANGE THAT AND ALLOW THEM ON THE LOW-SPEED ROADS AND
11:59:21AM BICYCLE LANES, WHICH WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER CIRCUMSTANCE.
11:59:24AM BUT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE THAT AS OUR ONLY OPTION, WE'RE GOING
11:59:29AM TO GO FORWARD, AND WE'VE PUT IN AS MANY ONEROUS CONTROL
11:59:35AM ASPECTS INTO THIS PROGRAM AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT
11:59:39AM WITHIN THIS TIME FRAME OF A YEAR, THAT WE HAVE THE SAFEST
11:59:46AM CONDITIONS POSSIBLE.
11:59:47AM I'LL MENTION A FEW SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA.
11:59:50AM THERE IS TECHNOLOGY THAT VENDORS HAVE AVAILABLE CALLED
11:59:52AM GEOFENCING.
11:59:53AM GEOFENCING BASICALLY CONTROLS THAT THE SCOOTERS ARE GOING TO
11:59:57AM STAY IN OUR DESIGNATED AREA, WHICH IS THE LAST PAGE OF THE
12:00:00PM DOCUMENT THAT I SHARED WITH YOU.
12:00:02PM THAT MAP IS SHOWING THE ONLY AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW
12:00:05PM THESE SCOOTERS.
12:00:05PM IF A RIDER GOES BEYOND THAT LIMIT, THE SCOOTER WILL TURN OFF
12:00:11PM AND THEY WILL GLIDE TO A STOP AND IT FORCES THEM TO GO BACK
12:00:16PM IN THE PROPER AREA.
12:00:17PM WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING THAT THEY PUT WHAT IS CALLED A
12:00:19PM GOVERNOR ON THE SCOOTER WHICH WILL CONTROL THE SPEED TO
12:00:22PM ABOUT SIX MILES AN HOUR.
12:00:24PM CURRENTLY, BICYCLES CAN RIDE 15 MILES AN HOUR ON A SIDEWALK.
12:00:28PM SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING LESS THAN HALF THAT
12:00:33PM SPEED ON OUR SIDEWALKS WITH THE SCOOTERS.
12:00:35PM WE'VE ALSO BEEN VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
12:00:39PM SCOOTERS THAT EACH VENDOR CAN HAVE.
12:00:41PM WE'RE REQUIRING WHAT WE'RE CALLING CORRALS, WHICH ARE
12:00:44PM PAINTED AREAS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE THE SCOOTERS WILL
12:00:47PM HAVE TO BE STAGED.
12:00:48PM WE DON'T WANT THEM JUST LYING ABOUT ANYWHERE BLOCKING
12:00:52PM SIDEWALKS AND CREATING PROBLEMS.
12:00:54PM WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THEY HAVE A LIAISON AVAILABLE 24/7 THAT
12:00:58PM WE CAN CONTACT TO ADDRESS ANY COMPLAINTS IN TERMS OF
12:01:02PM SCOOTERS CAUSING AN ISSUE, BEING IN THE WAY.
12:01:05PM WE'VE ASKED THEM TO PUT IN INCENTIVES AND WAYS TO
12:01:09PM DISINCENTIVE BAD BEHAVIOR OF THEIR USERS.
12:01:14PM THEY ALL INDICATED, ALL FOUR OF THEM, THAT THEY WOULD BE
12:01:17PM LOOKING TO HAVE AN 18-YEAR MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE
12:01:20PM THAT THEY ARE GOING TO RENT THE SCOOTERS TO AND, OF COURSE,
12:01:23PM A DRIVER'S LICENSE AS WELL.
12:01:27PM WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHTS TO ASK, IF THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT
12:01:31PM OR SOME CIRCUMSTANCE, OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INDICATES IS
12:01:35PM IMPORTANT, WE CAN ASK THAT THEY BE CLEARED OUT OF THE
12:01:38PM RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHIN 12 HOURS FOR ANY KIND OF SPECIAL EVENT,
12:01:41PM SUCH AS GASPARILLA OR ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE THAT MIGHT BE
12:01:43PM COMING ALONG, SUCH AS A HURRICANE OR BAD STORM.
12:01:47PM ENFORCEMENT BY OUR POLICE OFFICERS IS A TOOL OF LAST RESORT
12:01:52PM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE USED.
12:01:54PM IF THE VENDORS FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS WE'VE LAID OUT, THE
12:01:58PM USERS ARE RESPONSIBLE, WE SHOULD HAVE MINIMUM ISSUES AND WE
12:02:02PM SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TIE UP OUR POLICE FORCE TIME OF ENFORCING
12:02:06PM ANY BAD BEHAVIORS.
12:02:08PM WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WILL BE THE CASE.
12:02:09PM IF THINGS JUST GO AWRY FOR WHATEVER REASON AT ALL, WE CAN
12:02:13PM SHUT DOWN THE PROGRAM IMMEDIATELY.
12:02:15PM SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE RESEARCH ON OTHER CITIES.
12:02:19PM WE'VE TAKEN LESSONS LEARNED.
12:02:21PM WE PUT IN THE BEST FRAMEWORK WE CAN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES
12:02:25PM TO HAVE A SAFE PROGRAM.
12:02:27PM AGAIN, WE ARE WANTING TO OFFER OTHER MODE CHOICES TO OUR
12:02:31PM VISITORS AND OUR RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN HAVE AN ALTERNATE WAY
12:02:33PM TO GET AROUND QUICKLY WITHOUT DRIVING A VEHICLE.
12:02:36PM SO THAT'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, AND I'M HERE, ALONG
12:02:41PM WITH FOLKS FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR LEGAL
12:02:44PM DEPARTMENT IF YOU HAD ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D
12:02:48PM LIKE TO ASK.
12:02:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE THERE ANY CITIES, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE,
12:02:52PM THAT HAVE HAD THIS PROGRAM AND HAVE DISCONTINUED IT AT ALL?
12:02:56PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO MY EXPERT OVER HERE,
12:02:59PM MR. CALVIN THORNTON.
12:03:01PM HE'S GOING TO BE OUR POINT OF CONTACT DURING THIS PROGRAM.
12:03:05PM HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD NO.
12:03:07PM HE'S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH TO SEE WHO'S DOING WHAT, IS HOW
12:03:10PM MANY SCOOTERS, DIFFERENT CITIES ARE ALLOWING.
12:03:13PM FOR EXAMPLE, WE FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT LOS ANGELES IS
12:03:15PM ALLOWING A HUNDRED THOUSAND SCOOTERS IN THEIR CITY.
12:03:19PM WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING 2400.
12:03:22PM SO, NO, SIR.
12:03:28PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WOULD CERTAIN
12:03:33PM OFFICERS BE DESIGNATED TO MONITOR THIS OR IT JUST BE
12:03:36PM REGULARLY PATROLLED?
12:03:38PM IF YOU COME IN CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY IN VIOLATION, YOU'LL
12:03:40PM JUST WARN THEM OR CITE THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
12:03:43PM HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
12:03:46PM >> PATRICK MESSWORTH, TPD.
12:03:48PM BASICALLY, IT WOULD BE CALL BASED.
12:03:50PM IF WE GET A COMPLAINT, THE PATROL OFFICER OR THE BIKE SQUAD,
12:03:53PM WHEREVER, WOULD RESPOND TO THAT AND WOULD ADDRESS THE
12:03:55PM COMPLAINT.
12:03:55PM OBVIOUSLY, THERE WOULD BE A LEGAL BULLETIN PUT OUT.
12:03:58PM OUR OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE MADE AWARE OF THE ORDINANCE,
12:04:02PM WHAT IT ENTAILS, WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
12:04:04PM THE PRIMARY ROLE HERE IS EDUCATION.
12:04:06PM IF WE SEE SOMEBODY RIDING ON BAYSHORE, FOR INSTANCE, OR THE
12:04:09PM RIVERWALK, OUR FIRST GOAL IS TO TELL THEM TO GO RIDE
12:04:14PM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
12:04:14PM ASSUMING THEY LISTEN, WE WON'T HAVE TO ISSUE THEM A CITATION
12:04:17PM OR A CIVIL CITATION.
12:04:19PM BUT THERE IS THAT PROVISION IN THE ORDINANCE, SIMILAR TO THE
12:04:21PM MARIJUANA ORDINANCE WHERE WE CAN ISSUE CIVIL CITATIONS FOR
12:04:24PM VIOLATIONS OF THE ORDINANCE.
12:04:26PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
12:04:29PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I GOT A NOTE HERE, SOMEBODY THAT WAS IN
12:04:31PM INDIANAPOLIS THIS SUMMER AND SAID THAT THEY HAVE A SCOOTER
12:04:36PM PROGRAM.
12:04:36PM THE SCOOTERS WERE EVERYWHERE.
12:04:38PM WHEN THE PERSON GETS TO THE LOCATION, THEY JUST LEAVE OFF --
12:04:41PM THEY JUST GET OFF AND LEAVE IT ACROSS THE SIDEWALK, ON THE
12:04:44PM DOORWAY, IN THE STREET, AND HOW -- THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
12:04:53PM HERE.
12:04:54PM IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
12:04:57PM THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE -- THEY
12:05:04PM ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE SCOOTER BACK TO WHEREVER IT IS AND
12:05:07PM THEN WALK BACK TO WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
12:05:11PM THAT WAS JUST AN OBSERVATION FROM ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
12:05:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:05:20PM IN READING THIS PROPOSAL, IS $50 GOING TO COVER THE FEE OF
12:05:28PM IMPOUNDMENT, THE POLICE OFFICER'S TIME, SALARIES, CARS,
12:05:34PM EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE TO DO?
12:05:36PM >> I WOULD SAY SO.
12:05:36PM IT'S NOT LIKE A CAR WHERE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A WRECKER AND
12:05:40PM SO FORTH.
12:05:41PM THEY CAN PUT THE SCOOTER IN THE BACK OF THE PATROL CAR,
12:05:44PM DRIVE IT TO THE IMPOUND LOT.
12:05:46PM PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IS WITHIN TEN MINUTES OR SO OF THE
12:05:49PM IMPOUND LOT.
12:05:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHO IS GOING TO IMPOUND IT?
12:05:52PM IMPOUND IT IN THE CAR OR SCOOTER ON A WRECKER?
12:05:55PM >> I THINK THE FIRST GOAL, AS MS. CAPIN SAYS, IF SOMEBODY
12:05:59PM LEAVES THE SCOOTER OUT, THE COMPANY SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE
12:06:04PM TO GO AND PICK THAT UP.
12:06:05PM I KNOW ONE OF THE -- JUMP, I BELIEVE, ACTUALLY HAS A
12:06:10PM PROVISION IF SOMEBODY LEAVES A SCOOTER IN THE PLACE THEY
12:06:13PM SHOULDN'T, THAT PERSON GETS CHARGED $25.
12:06:16PM THAT SHOULD BE A DETERRENT.
12:06:17PM THE LAST RESORT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTING THE
12:06:19PM IMPOUNDMENT.
12:06:21PM CORRECT.
12:06:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS ON THE VERGE OF VOTING AGAINST IT.
12:06:26PM BUT I SAID LET ME TRY OUT THE PROGRAM FIRST, SEE HOW IT IS
12:06:29PM FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
12:06:32PM I'M VERY APPREHENSIVE ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY DRIVE
12:06:38PM THEM ON SIDEWALKS AND SIDEWALKS ARE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON.
12:06:41PM YOU SEE A TV AD, DELIVERY OF FOOD TO YOUR HOUSE.
12:06:46PM THERE'S MIXED SIGNALS GOING ON EVERYWHERE IN THIS SOCIETY.
12:06:51PM I HOPE THAT IT WORKS OUT, BUT I'M ALSO WILLING TO VOTE
12:06:55PM AGAINST IT IN A HEARTBEAT.
12:06:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: CAN I INDULGE COUNCIL?
12:07:00PM WE NEED ADDITIONAL TIME.
12:07:02PM >> MOVE FOR ADDITIONAL HALF HOUR.
12:07:04PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:07:05PM WE'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL HALF HOUR.
12:07:10PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WANT TO VOTE ON THAT?
12:07:11PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:07:15PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:07:16PM I APOLOGIZE FOR COMING BACK.
12:07:19PM >>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK.
12:07:21PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK GOODNESS, THE DOCTOR DID A QUICK JOB.
12:07:25PM HERE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES, AND I'M GOING TO ASK MS. DUNCAN
12:07:29PM THIS, WE HAVE BIKE SHARE WHICH HAS A SIMILAR IDEA OF WHAT
12:07:36PM WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE SCOOTERS, CORRECT?
12:07:38PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
12:07:39PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MEANING, WE HAVE LOCATIONS WHERE YOU CAN RENT
12:07:41PM THEM AND THEY ARE PARKED.
12:07:42PM AND THEY ARE PICKED UP BY COAST BIKE SHARE.
12:07:44PM HOW MANY BICYCLES DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY, DO YOU KNOW?
12:07:48PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: 500.
12:07:49PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE'VE GOT 500.
12:07:53PM NOW, THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE, BUT THE IDEA IS THE SAME,
12:07:56PM MEANING THAT THE COMPANIES ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK UP THEIR
12:07:59PM BIKES IF THEY ARE NOT AT A CORRAL.
12:08:01PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
12:08:02PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK I'M USING THE TERMINOLOGY RIGHT.
12:08:05PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT IS CORRECT.
12:08:06PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BIRD USES ROOST OR WHATEVER.
12:08:10PM I THINK LIME USES JUICER.
12:08:12PM THEY ALL HAVE REALLY COOL NAMES.
12:08:13PM THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT AND PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY
12:08:16PM ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN ALL THESE
12:08:19PM OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN EXPERIMENTING WITH THE SCOOTERS.
12:08:23PM I THINK THAT L.A. IS THE EXAMPLE -- IT WAS EITHER L.A. OR
12:08:26PM SAN DIEGO, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE -- WHERE THEY JUST
12:08:29PM DUMPED ALL THE SCOOTERS OUT THERE, AND IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE
12:08:33PM HEADACHE FOR RIGHTS-OF-WAY, FOR SIDEWALKS, OTHER THINGS, IF
12:08:37PM I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
12:08:38PM BUT THIS IS THE REASON WHY THAT WE'VE CREATED THIS PILOT
12:08:42PM PROJECT SPECIFICALLY WITH THESE KIND OF RESTRICTIONS IN IT.
12:08:45PM THE OTHER THING IS AND THIS IS SOMETHING I WAS HAVING A
12:08:48PM CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, WE HAVE THE
12:08:51PM GEOFENCING AS PART OF THE PROHIBITION ON 7th, BAYSHORE
12:08:56PM BOULEVARD, THE TAMPA RIVERWALK, THOSE THREE LOCATIONS WE
12:09:02PM HAVE GEOFENCING, CORRECT?
12:09:04PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
12:09:05PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ALL FOUR OF THE VENDORS CAN HAVE, I GUESS,
12:09:10PM ELECTRONIC FENCING ON IT SO IT STOPS THE MOTORIZED VEHICLE.
12:09:15PM IT CAN'T BE USED, CORRECT?
12:09:17PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
12:09:17PM THAT WAS A REQUEST THAT WE HAD IN OUR PROPOSAL.
12:09:20PM YES.
12:09:21PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: TERRIFIC.
12:09:22PM AND LASTLY, ARE YOU FOLLOWING THE LEGISLATION IN THE FLORIDA
12:09:27PM LEGISLATURE THAT WILL BE VOTED ON BEFORE THE END OF THIS
12:09:30PM MONTH THAT WILL RESTRICT THE MOTORIZED SCOOTERS TO THE
12:09:35PM STREET OR TO THE BIKE LANES, AM I CORRECT?
12:09:37PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
12:09:37PM YES.
12:09:38PM DEBBIE STEPHENSON HAS BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AS WELL.
12:09:41PM LIKE I SAID, WE EXPECT SOME CHANGES TO COME ALONG WITH THAT,
12:09:47PM WHICH WE THINK WILL BE VERY FAVORABLE TO FEED INTO OUR
12:09:50PM PROGRAM THAT WE'VE SET UP.
12:09:51PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK THAT WHEN WE FIRST PASSED THIS, AND I
12:09:55PM WAS -- I DEFINITELY MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IT, WHICH IS I
12:09:59PM DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE ON SIDEWALKS AT ALL.
12:10:01PM BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS WORKING VERY HARD
12:10:04PM TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS.
12:10:06PM LET'S HOPE IT GETS PASSED.
12:10:07PM IF IT DOESN'T GET PASSED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY BAD
12:10:10PM YEAR, THE PILOT PROJECT, REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD OF A PROCESS
12:10:15PM WE PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING THEM ON
12:10:18PM SIDEWALKS, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
12:10:20PM IF THE LEGISLATURE PASSES IT, AND OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THAT OUR
12:10:23PM POLICE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE WELL INFORMED ON WHAT THAT
12:10:26PM IS AND WHAT THE VIOLATION WILL BE IF THEY ARE USING IT ON
12:10:29PM SIDEWALKS.
12:10:29PM THAT GIVES IT AN EXTRA OOMPH TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR
12:10:34PM ORDINANCE IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE STATE LAW WOULD SAY THAT
12:10:37PM SHOULD REALLY HELP TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON THE STREET OR ON
12:10:39PM THE BIKE PATHS.
12:10:40PM SO LET'S HOPE -- KNOCK ON WOOD -- THAT THEY DO THE RIGHT
12:10:44PM THING AND PA THAT IS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
12:10:47PM THANKS SO MUCH, MS. DUNCAN.
12:10:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY
12:10:51PM WHAT YOU SAID.
12:10:52PM YOU SAID THE PROGRAM -- IN A HEARTBEAT AND YOU DECIDED THERE
12:10:55PM WAS A NEEDED NECESSITY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
12:10:57PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT IS CORRECT.
12:10:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON EITHER WAY.
12:10:59PM THEN I JUST HEARD THERE'S A REASON THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE.
12:11:02PM DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE, WHAT KIND OF REASONS FOR A YEAR, WHAT
12:11:06PM WAS THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED HERE RECENTLY, IT WAS FOR SIX
12:11:10PM MONTHS OR A YEAR?
12:11:11PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE FOR OUR CITY ALONE
12:11:14PM THAT ALLOWS THE SCOOTERS TO BE ON THE SIDEWALKS.
12:11:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR HOW LONG A PERIOD OF TIME?
12:11:21PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THROUGH A VENDOR.
12:11:23PM THAT IS THE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS.
12:11:24PM THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON IT.
12:11:27PM IT'S JUST ON THE BOOKS.
12:11:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:11:30PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE PROGRAM ITSELF, WE CAN DECIDE TO END THAT
12:11:33PM AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
12:11:34PM WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO GIVE IT A YEAR TO REALLY SEE HOW
12:11:38PM THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK.
12:11:39PM WE CAN END THE PROGRAM AT ANY TIME.
12:11:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THAT MEAN IT'S GOT TO BE A YEAR OR
12:11:43PM WITHIN A YEAR YOU CAN SAY ADIOS, MAMA?
12:11:47PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE CAN END IT AT ANY TIME AT ALL.
12:11:50PM WE JUST FELT THAT A YEAR WAS ENOUGH TIME TO SEE HOW THE
12:11:52PM SYSTEM WOULD WORK.
12:11:54PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
12:11:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
12:11:58PM I SAID THIS BEFORE, WHEN I WAS IN DALLAS AND I SAW THE --
12:12:01PM HOW THE SCOOTERS WERE THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE RIDING THEM AND
12:12:05PM I SAW ONE ROGUE SCOOTER -- THAT'S WHAT I'LL CALL IT --
12:12:09PM MEANING IT WAS JUST KNOCKED OVER.
12:12:10PM I THINK IT WAS IN FRONT OF A CVS ON THE SIDEWALK.
12:12:14PM OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WERE IN THE CORRALS.
12:12:16PM PEOPLE WERE RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIBLE WHEN USING THEM.
12:12:19PM I DIDN'T SEE THEM WEAVING IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC BEING
12:12:22PM FOOLISH.
12:12:23PM WE'LL SEE HOW THIS WORKS.
12:12:25PM IF NOT, WE GET TO IT, I KNOW IT CAN BE TERMINATED, CORRECT?
12:12:29PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
12:12:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
12:12:32PM AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED LOS ANGELES WANTED -- VOTED HUNDRED
12:12:38PM THOUSAND SCOOTERS AND WE'RE DOING 2% OF THAT HERE.
12:12:41PM WE'LL SEE HOW IT IS.
12:12:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERYTHING IS BASED ON POPULATION.
12:12:53PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WHAT IS THE SPEED, THE MAXIMUM SPEED ON ONE
12:12:57PM OF THESE SCOOTERS?
12:13:00PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE REQUESTED THAT THEY BE GOVERNED AT
12:13:03PM APPROXIMATELY 6 MILES AN HOUR.
12:13:05PM AS I MENTIONED, THE BICYCLES CAN GO 15 MILES AN HOUR ON THE
12:13:09PM SIDEWALKS.
12:13:09PM SO IT'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE IN SPEED.
12:13:12PM >>FRANK REDDICK: IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET A DUI WITH
12:13:15PM 6 MILES PER HOUR, RIGHT?
12:13:16PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
12:13:21PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:13:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:13:22PM WE THANK YOU.
12:13:24PM AND GO TO NUMBER 79.
12:13:25PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU.
12:13:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:13:55PM THOM SNELLING, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
12:13:57PM I'M HERE TO COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ON WHAT'S BEEN
12:13:59PM GOING ON WITH OUR EFFORTS TO STREAMLINE, REDUCE THE COST AND
12:14:04PM TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE IN OUR EFFORTS DISCUSSING HOW WE'RE
12:14:08PM GOING TO GOVERN AND REGULATE TENTS, PERMITS, COSTS,
12:14:12PM ENGINEERING, WIND LOAD FACTORS AND THOSE THINGS.
12:14:15PM AS I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING COMING BACK THIS SOON BEFORE
12:14:18PM COUNCIL, THERE'S PARTS OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVEN'T
12:14:22PM COMPLETED YET, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, WE'RE NOT CHANGING
12:14:28PM ANY WAY OF HOW WE'RE DOING TENTS UNTIL THIS THING IS
12:14:31PM RESOLVED.
12:14:32PM HOW WE'RE DOING THEM CURRENTLY IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO
12:14:35PM CONTINUE TO DO THEM UNTIL THE TIME WE GET A PRETTY
12:14:38PM SUBSTANTIAL AGREEMENT ON WHERE WE'RE GOING FOR THAT.
12:14:40PM MR. DRYDEN PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION TO ALL OF THE
12:14:47PM PEOPLE WE HAD E-MAILS FOR, AND HE RECEIVED A GREAT NUMBER OF
12:14:50PM RESPONSES IN TERMS OF THIS IS A CONCERN OR THAT'S A CONCERN.
12:14:54PM I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THOSE RIGHT NOW.
12:14:56PM THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT HAVING PROFESSIONALLY
12:15:09PM ARCHITECTURALLY DRAWN UP SITE PLANS AND ENGINEERING PLANS
12:15:12PM FOR THE TENTS.
12:15:13PM THAT IS A COST WE THINK THAT WE CAN REALLY REDUCE THAT
12:15:15PM AMOUNT BY GOING TO WHAT'S CALLED PLANS ON FILE.
12:15:18PM WE DO THAT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SOME OTHER KINDS OF
12:15:21PM PROJECTS.
12:15:22PM YOU PAY FOR ONE TYPE OF TENT AND SEVERAL OF THE TENT FOLKS
12:15:25PM USE THE SAME TENTS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
12:15:28PM YOU PAY FOR THAT ONE TIME AND THEN YOU JUST, WHEN YOU GO TO
12:15:32PM DO ANOTHER TENT, YOU SAY I'M DOING TENT A OR TENT B OR TENT
12:15:36PM C AND THERE'S NO ENGINEERING COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
12:15:39PM THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP A LOT, AND THERE WAS PRETTY
12:15:43PM MUCH UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT ON THIS, IS ABOUT A WIND MITIGATION
12:15:47PM PLAN.
12:15:48PM GIVEN THAT WE ARE IN FLORIDA, WE ARE SUBJECT TO SEVERE
12:15:51PM WEATHER POPPING UP VERY QUICKLY.
12:15:54PM SOMETIMES WITH VERY SHORT NOTICE.
12:15:56PM I MEAN, HURRICANES AND MAJOR STORMS WE GET MORE NOTIFICATION
12:15:59PM OF THAT, BUT THE ABILITY WHEN THE CITY, WHEN THERE'S
12:16:05PM PREDICTIONS OF WIND, I'LL USE 45 MILES AN HOUR AND YOUR TENT
12:16:09PM IS RATED AT 40-MILE AN HOUR, WHATEVER IT IS AND DIFFERENT
12:16:13PM KINDS OF TENTS ARE RATED AT DIFFERENT WIND CAPACITIES OR
12:16:16PM WIND LOAD SPEEDS, THAT THEY AGREE THAT THEY DO NEED TO GO
12:16:19PM OUT AND GET THEIR TENTS DOWN AND SECURE THEIR POSITION.
12:16:22PM SOME OF THE POINTS THAT CAME UP AT OUR MEETING, AND THE
12:16:28PM MEETING WAS ATTENDED BY ABOUT 25 OR 30 PEOPLE.
12:16:33PM IT WENT VERY WELL.
12:16:36PM WE TOLD THEM -- AND I'VE COMMITTED TO THAT FURTHER -- THAT
12:16:43PM UNTIL WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCEDURES AND THE PROCESSES AND
12:16:47PM THE COSTS AND THE ENGINEERING, ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT
12:16:52PM COME UP, THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MEET AND THEY WERE
12:16:55PM VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
12:16:56PM SO WE'VE KIND OF REESTABLISHED A GOOD -- A MUCH BETTER
12:17:01PM WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE INDUSTRY.
12:17:05PM SEVERAL OF THEM CAME THAT WERE TALKING TO US.
12:17:11PM THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONFUSION OFFERED ABOUT WHEN AN
12:17:16PM ELECTRICAL PERMIT HAS TO BE DRAWN BECAUSE AT SOME OF THE
12:17:18PM EVENTS, PEOPLE ARE USING GENERATORS OF A CERTAIN CAPACITY.
12:17:25PM OTHER EVENTS WHERE THERE IS A TENT USED, THEY HAVE A TECO
12:17:28PM POWER POLE THAT THEY TIE INTO THAT.
12:17:30PM SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE NEED ELECTRIC PERMITS; SOMETIMES THEY
12:17:35PM DON'T.
12:17:37PM WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE CLARIFICATION AS TO WHEN YOU'RE
12:17:39PM UNDER CONDITION A, B, C, D, NEED A PERMIT.
12:17:44PM 1, 2, 3, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT.
12:17:46PM WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE ISSUES BECAUSE, FRANKLY, THERE IS
12:17:48PM SOME CONFUSION THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
12:17:50PM THERE'S ANOTHER CONCERN ABOUT THE VALIDATION OF THE FIRE
12:18:03PM RETARDANT CERTIFICATE THAT HAS TO BE ISSUED.
12:18:08PM THE FIRE MARSHAL WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT.
12:18:11PM WE'LL BRING GREATER CLARIFICATION TO THAT, ALTHOUGH THE FIRE
12:18:15PM MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH HOW THEY MAKE
12:18:18PM THAT APPLICATION.
12:18:19PM ONE OF THE THINGS -- LET ME FIND THE PAPER.
12:18:23PM RIGHT NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF
12:18:31PM EVENT YOU'RE PUTTING UP A TENT FOR OR THE NATURE OF WHAT
12:18:35PM YOU'RE TRYING TO STAGE, YOU CAN HAVE TO GO UP TO FOUR
12:18:39PM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
12:18:40PM IT'S A FOUR-STOP SHOP, NOT A ONE-STOP SHOP.
12:18:43PM DEPENDING ON THE EVENT AND THE SIZE, YOU MAY HAVE TO GO TO
12:18:47PM PARKS AND RECREATION TO THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING PROCESS
12:18:49PM AND THAT KICKS YOU TO DO OTHER KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS, WHICH
12:18:52PM INCLUDES AUTOMATICALLY A FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE.
12:18:55PM AND THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR,
12:18:58PM THEY ARE BOTH OVER ON HIMES WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT THERE.
12:19:05PM BUT THEN IF YOUR EVENT INVOLVES ALCOHOL, AND AS YOU KNOW, A
12:19:08PM GREAT MANY OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT USE THESE TENTS DO
12:19:10PM INVOLVE ALCOHOL, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE ZONING OFFICE AT
12:19:14PM 1400, GO THROUGH THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE PERMIT PROCESS.
12:19:20PM DEPENDING AGAIN ON THE SIZE OF THE TENT, YOU MAY ALSO HAVE
12:19:23PM TO GO THROUGH AND GET A BUILDING PERMIT.
12:19:25PM SO OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO MAKE THAT PROCESS THAT'S
12:19:31PM INVOLVING SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, NOT ONLY JUST MY BUILDING
12:19:36PM DEPARTMENT, IS TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED
12:19:40PM AND EASIER.
12:19:41PM THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO ADDRESS THIS ENTIRE ISSUE AND NOT
12:19:47PM PUT A BAND-AID ON AND MOVE FORWARD.
12:19:49PM WE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE THERE A TO THE INDUSTRY, AND I THINK
12:19:53PM WE WERE SUCCESSFUL.
12:19:54PM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY, THAT YOU MAY
12:19:58PM WANT TO HEAR FROM.
12:19:59PM I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTH, BUT I FELT WE ARE
12:20:02PM ON A BETTER AND SUCCESSFUL PATH.
12:20:04PM SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MADE IN
12:20:07PM HIS MOTION WAS ABOUT WHAT IS BEING PERMITTED TODAY, AND --
12:20:14PM STILL UP TO THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
12:20:16PM YOU PULL THE PERMIT, GC AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
12:20:19PM WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT JUST YET.
12:20:21PM AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE REGULATIONS TO BE PROPOSED.
12:20:25PM THE SCALE OF THE FEES, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH PULLING A
12:20:30PM TENT PERMIT, PUTTING ON -- THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE THIS
12:20:33PM MORNING TALKED ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT THE COST.
12:20:37PM THE FEES ARE SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL.
12:20:39PM AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THOSE AS REASONABLE AS POSSIBLE
12:20:44PM AND GO FROM THERE.
12:20:45PM WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GOUGE ANYBODY.
12:20:48PM WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO MAKE A PROFIT.
12:20:50PM WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, WELL, THAT IS AN AREA WE CAN
12:20:55PM WORK IN.
12:20:56PM THE COST OF ENGINEERING ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY, THE INDUSTRY
12:21:02PM INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE HAVE AGREED THAT THAT
12:21:05PM CAN BE AN EXTREMELY COSTLY REQUIREMENT, UPWARDS OF A COUPLE
12:21:09PM THOUSAND BUCKS.
12:21:10PM IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO ONE EVENT OR TWO EVENTS AND YOU'VE GOT
12:21:13PM TO COME IN EVERY TIME AND TURN IN, PAY 1500, 2,000 DOLLARS
12:21:16PM FOR AN ENGINEERING PLAN, THAT IS COST PROHIBITIVE.
12:21:21PM SO THAT'S WHERE THE PLANS ON FILE COMES INTO PLAY BECAUSE
12:21:24PM THEN IT COULD BE A SINGLE THING AND YOU COULD USE THAT AS
12:21:27PM MANY TIMES AS YOU HAVE AN EVENT.
12:21:35PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IF I COULD, CHAIR, EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
12:21:37PM IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
12:21:40PM THE TYPE OF TENT?
12:21:41PM IT'S NOT BASED ONLY ON THE EVENT.
12:21:44PM IT'S BASED ON THE TYPE OF TENT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
12:21:49PM >>THOM SNELLING: YES, IT IS.
12:21:51PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO THEY CAN PUT ON FILE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY
12:21:53PM ARE A VENDOR OR PURVEYOR OF THESE TENTS THAT IS DONE IN THE
12:21:56PM SAME PROCESS EACH AND EVERY TIME, THAT IT CAN BE FILED FOR
12:21:59PM THEM TO SAY WE DO A HUNDRED TENTS A YEAR.
12:22:01PM THIS IS THE PROCESS WE USE FOR THESE SIZE TENTS.
12:22:04PM AND THEN IT WILL BE ON FILE WITH US, CORRECT?
12:22:06PM >>THOM SNELLING: THAT IS CORRECT.
12:22:07PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
12:22:08PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT THAT STRAIGHT.
12:22:09PM >>THOM SNELLING: YES.
12:22:10PM THAT COULD -- AS YOU SAY, IF THEY ARE DOING A HUNDRED
12:22:13PM EVENTS, $2,000 TIMES A HUNDRED EVENTS, IT'S ALMOST A QUARTER
12:22:16PM OF A MILLION BUCKS.
12:22:17PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT, EXACTLY.
12:22:19PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:22:21PM >>THOM SNELLING: WE DID DO A LITTLE RESEARCH, I'M HAPPY TO
12:22:26PM SAY IN MY 27 YEARS HERE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, THERE HASN'T
12:22:28PM BEEN A MAJOR FAILING OF AN EVENT.
12:22:30PM SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:22:33PM BUT WE DID -- MARVIN DID DO RESEARCH.
12:22:36PM HE FOUND BETWEEN -- THERE WAS A BIG STUDY DONE BETWEEN 2010
12:22:41PM AND 2015, AND THEY HAD MINOR MISHAPS, BUT IN THAT FIVE-YEAR
12:22:48PM PERIOD, THERE WERE 12 DEATHS.
12:22:50PM PRIMARILY NINE OF THOSE DEATHS CAME FROM CARBON MONOXIDE
12:22:54PM INHALING.
12:22:55PM IF YOU HAVE AN EVENT WHERE YOU HAVE A GENERATOR TOO CLOSE TO
12:23:00PM THE TENT, THAT COULD BE GASSING INTO THE TENT ITSELF AND
12:23:05PM PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THAT.
12:23:08PM TWO PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF A TENT FAILURE AND ONE DIED
12:23:12PM OF A TENT COLLAPSE, OR IT WAS ON FIRE.
12:23:14PM THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A HUGE AMOUNT OF THAT, BUT IN THAT
12:23:21PM FIVE-YEAR PERIOD THAT WE STUDIED, ACTUALLY, IT'S A SIX-YEAR
12:23:24PM PERIOD, THERE WERE SOME DEATHS.
12:23:25PM THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO
12:23:30PM HELP PREVENT THAT.
12:23:32PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MIRANDA.
12:23:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:23:35PM I'M NOT HERE TO DISPUTE -- I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU HAVE A
12:23:39PM GENERATOR EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN MORE PEOPLE DIE IN A
12:23:42PM HOUSE THAN THEY DO IN A TENT.
12:23:45PM ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE STORMS IN THIS AREA AND THROUGHOUT
12:23:49PM THE AREAS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF STORMS.
12:23:52PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
12:23:54PM I DON'T ACCEPT IT AS THE FACTS, NOT THAT YOU'RE LIKING.
12:23:57PM YOU'RE NOT.
12:23:58PM AS A FACTUAL MATTER, YOU DIDN'T COMPARE WITH ANY OTHER
12:24:01PM THINGS.
12:24:01PM JUST COMPARED IT TO A TENT.
12:24:02PM COMPARE IT TO A HOUSE, YOU'LL SEE THE SAME RATIO OR GREATER
12:24:06PM WHO HAVE PASSED AWAY BECAUSE OF THE SAME EVENT.
12:24:09PM >>THOM SNELLING: WELL, IT'S THE THINGS IN THE WINTER TIME,
12:24:13PM WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING THE FIREPLACES.
12:24:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR.
12:24:17PM I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
12:24:19PM >>THOM SNELLING: WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN OTHER CITIES?
12:24:23PM AND THIS IS THE THING THAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING PERHAPS THE
12:24:26PM CLOSEST, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE IT INVOLVES USING --
12:24:31PM REQUIRING A GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO DO A SUBMITTAL.
12:24:36PM I BELIEVE IN CLEARWATER AND IN BRADENTON OR MANATEE COUNTY,
12:24:40PM THEY HAVE, OR THEY ALLOW A PERSON THAT IS A TENT INSTALLER
12:24:45PM LICENSE TO PULL THE PERMIT.
12:24:48PM WE DID APPROACH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ABOUT ALLOWING THAT TO
12:24:53PM HAPPEN HERE.
12:24:53PM WE DIDN'T QUITE GET THE RECEPTION WE WANTED BUT WE'LL
12:24:56PM CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT AND TO SEE.
12:25:00PM THEY ARE THE LICENSING BOARD FOR THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE TO
12:25:02PM ABIDE BY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
12:25:05PM BUT JARED HAS PROMISED ME HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
12:25:09PM BECAUSE THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE OTHER BIG EXPENSES.
12:25:12PM SO THE BIG EXPENSES WERE THE ENGINEERED DRAWINGS AND THE
12:25:17PM SUBCONTRACTOR ISSUE.
12:25:18PM THE OTHER THING -- AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE COUNCILMAN HAD
12:25:24PM ASKED IF TENTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS.
12:25:27PM THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS, NO, THEY'RE NOT.
12:25:30PM NOT UNTIL THEY BECOME -- I HOPE I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT, JOHN
12:25:36PM -- NOT UNTIL THEY BECOME A PERMANENT STRUCTURE OR INTENDED
12:25:38PM TO BE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE DOES THAT REVIEW COME INTO PLAY.
12:25:42PM WHAT IS MORE COMMON IS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO WHAT IS
12:25:46PM CALLED A FIRE WATCH.
12:25:47PM THAT'S WHEN YOU PLACE -- IF YOU GO TO A LOT OF EVENTS ON
12:25:50PM CURTIS HIXON, YOU'LL BUMP INTO COREY.
12:25:53PM HE'S DOWN THERE ON FIRE WATCH.
12:25:55PM THAT'S IN A VERY OPEN AREA.
12:25:56PM A LOT OF THE FIRE WATCH REQUIREMENTS HAVE MORE TO DO WITH
12:25:58PM THE OCCUPANCY LOAD AND THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES AND THE PLACE
12:26:02PM OF ASSEMBLY TYPE THINGS.
12:26:04PM AS THE TENTS GET BIGGER, THE OCCUPANCY LOAD GETS BIGGER,
12:26:07PM TRIGGERING THE POSSIBILITY OF A FIRE WATCH REQUIREMENT.
12:26:09PM BUT SPRINKLERS IN AND OF THEMSELVES ARE NOT.
12:26:12PM AND, YES, WE DID CONFERENCE CALL JULIA MANDELL FROM THE
12:26:22PM TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY INTO THE MEETING, AND SHE WAS IN
12:26:25PM ATTENDANCE AS WELL.
12:26:27PM I THINK I COVERED MOST OF IT.
12:26:29PM THAT WAS PERHAPS ONE OF THE LONGEST MOTIONS I'VE EVER HAD TO
12:26:32PM LOOK AT.
12:26:33PM BUT I'M FEELING GOOD ABOUT THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE.
12:26:37PM I THINK SEVERAL OF THE VENDORS ARE FEELING THE SAME.
12:26:41PM I DIDN'T BRING A COUPLE OF TESTIMONIAL E-MAILS I GOT.
12:26:44PM THE GENTLEMAN AND ONE OF THE WOMEN WHO WERE THE MOST
12:26:50PM OUTSPOKEN ABOUT CHANGING THE PROCESS -- AND THIS IS ALREADY
12:26:52PM ON TAPE -- WAS MR. PRESSMAN WHO REPRESENTED GALAXY
12:26:56PM FIREWORKS.
12:26:56PM WE HAVE E-MAILS FROM BOTH OF THEM SAYING THIS IS A GREAT
12:26:59PM START.
12:27:00PM LET'S KEEP THIS GOING.
12:27:02PM SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
12:27:03PM AND THE OTHER THING IS, TOO, AS WAS SAID BEFORE ABOUT THE
12:27:09PM TREE, THREE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO GOT THIS THING STARTED
12:27:17PM ARE STILL GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD, SO THERE WILL BE
12:27:20PM ADDITIONAL FORWARD-GOING ACCOUNTABILITY IN RESOLVING THIS
12:27:24PM ISSUE.
12:27:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID WE COVER EVERYTHING -- EXCUSE ME,
12:27:29PM MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY -- WHAT WAS THE PERMITTING PROCESS
12:27:32PM BEFORE TODAY?
12:27:34PM WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS BEING PROPOSED?
12:27:37PM SOME OF THAT WAS COVERED.
12:27:38PM THE SCALES OF FEE FOR THE SMALLEST TENT, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
12:27:42PM I WANT TO KNOW THE WHOLE RAMIFICATION TO VOTE ON THE WHOLE
12:27:45PM ENCHILADA BEFORE I TAKE A BITE AT ONE CRAB.
12:27:50PM MOST PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF ARE DEAF.
12:27:54PM YOU HEARD THAT ONE.
12:27:57PM >>THOM SNELLING: ON THE FEES, I'LL HAVE TO BRING YOU BACK
12:28:01PM SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE SIZE OF THE TENTS.
12:28:03PM THE ACTUAL FEES FOR TENT PERMITTING IS NOT ALL THAT
12:28:08PM SUBSTANTIAL.
12:28:09PM I BELIEVE THAT THE COST THAT WAS BOTHERING EVERYBODY,
12:28:12PM ENGINEERING COSTS, GC COST, REPETITIVE SUBMITTAL COST.
12:28:21PM THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT CAME UP.
12:28:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAYBE YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF KIDS THAT WANT
12:28:25PM TO PUT A LEMONADE THING IN THE FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
12:28:29PM >>THOM SNELLING: THAT COSTS ABOUT $5,000.
12:28:31PM NO, I'M KIDDING.
12:28:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED ANYTHING
12:28:37PM LIKE THAT.
12:28:38PM >>THOM SNELLING: NO.
12:28:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M A SIMPLE PERSON.
12:28:42PM >>THOM SNELLING: THE GOOD NEWS IS, IF A KID IS THROWING UP A
12:28:47PM 10 BY 10, EASY UP TENT, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO A PERMIT FOR
12:28:50PM THAT.
12:28:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ABOUT A 10 BY 20?
12:28:56PM >>THOM SNELLING: 10 BY 20 -- WHERE IS MARK?
12:28:59PM A 10 BY 20 WE WOULD START TO WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S
12:29:04PM 120 SQUARE FEET.
12:29:05PM HERE'S THE CHALLENGE, COUNCILMAN, IS THAT SOME OF OUR CODES
12:29:11PM TODAY, THE ZONING CODE, FOR EXAMPLE, SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE
12:29:16PM 120-SQUARE-FOOT TENT TO BE UP FOR MORE THAN 24 HOURS, YOU
12:29:19PM HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, LIKE A VENDOR, AND YOU HAVE TO
12:29:24PM MEET THE ZONING CODE.
12:29:25PM YOU HAVE TO DO CERTAIN REGULATORY KIND OF THINGS FOR A TENT
12:29:27PM THAT SMALL.
12:29:28PM AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER CODES DON'T REQUIRE CERTAIN KINDS
12:29:32PM OF REVIEWS UNTIL THEY GET UP TO 900 SQUARE FEET.
12:29:36PM THERE'S A LOT OF DISPARAGING NUMBERS BETWEEN THE FOUR
12:29:43PM ENTITIES THAT I DESCRIBED, SPECIAL EVENTS, FIRE, BUILDING,
12:29:47PM AND ZONING.
12:29:48PM THE GOAL IS TO GET THOSE TOGETHER.
12:29:51PM BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE NOT REQUIRING OR DOING A WHOLE LOT OF
12:29:59PM REVIEW OF TENTS UP TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
12:30:01PM THAT NUMBER WILL COME DOWN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
12:30:06PM FINDING WHAT THAT NUMBER WILL BE AND --
12:30:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING SOMETHING ON THE
12:30:12PM LARGE EVENTS, BUT WHEN I SEE HOUSES THAT HAVE TENTS IN FRONT
12:30:16PM OF THEIR HOUSES FOR CARPORT STUFF THAT ARE AGAINST THE LAW,
12:30:22PM NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, THEY DON'T HAVE A CARPORT.
12:30:25PM THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE.
12:30:26PM AND NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING FOR 50 YEARS, AND THEN THEY
12:30:32PM BUILD SOMETHING AND NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING FOR THE LAST 50
12:30:35PM YEARS AND NOW I'LL GO AFTER SOMEBODY WHO HAS A 10 BY 20 TENT
12:30:39PM WHO WANTS TO POP IT UP TO HAVE A PARTY.
12:30:42PM I HAVE A PROBLEM.
12:30:42PM IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER HEARTBURN.
12:30:45PM I HAVE DOUBLE HEARTBURN AND ESOPHAGEAL PROBLEMS THAT COME
12:30:50PM WITH THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T TAKE THAT.
12:30:52PM WHEN I SEE THE CITY IN ALL PARTS OF THE AREA, NOT JUST IN
12:30:55PM ONE DISTRICT, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF VIOLATIONS, AND THAT'S
12:30:59PM NOT YOU.
12:30:59PM WE'RE NOT ENFORCING THE LAW.
12:31:02PM WHEN I SEE PEOPLE OUT IN THE STREET CUTTING AND MOWING GRASS
12:31:07PM AND PUTTING IT INSIDE THE SEWER SYSTEM, THERE IS A LAW IN
12:31:10PM CHAPTER 27 AGAINST THAT, IN ALL MY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE
12:31:13PM NOT ONE TIME HAVE I SEEN A TICKET GIVEN FOR THAT, I HAVE A
12:31:17PM PROBLEM WITH THE LAW.
12:31:18PM AND IT'S NOT YOU, SIR.
12:31:19PM I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL.
12:31:20PM THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
12:31:23PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:31:25PM NEED 15 MORE MINUTES.
12:31:26PM >> SO MOVED.
12:31:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BETTER GET 30, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:31:30PM WE STILL HAVE A CASE AFTER THAT.
12:31:32PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I WAS TRYING TO THROW SOME HINTS AT HIM.
12:31:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
12:31:35PM I APPRECIATE THE HINT.
12:31:37PM >>THOM SNELLING: WE WILL BE BACK AND MEET OFF-LINE WITH
12:31:40PM VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HONE IN ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT
12:31:42PM YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
12:31:45PM MEETINGS WITH THE INDUSTRY AND I'LL BE REPORTING BACK TO YOU
12:31:48PM A FEW MORE TIMES, I'M SURE.
12:31:50PM >>FRANK REDDICK: I'VE GOT A MOTION TO EXTEND FOR 30 MORE
12:31:52PM MINUTES.
12:31:53PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE.
12:31:55PM OPPOSED?
12:31:55PM ANYTHING ELSE MR. MIRANDA?
12:31:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
12:31:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
12:31:58PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: REAL QUICK, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU I WAS AT
12:32:02PM THE BEACH A FEW WEEKS AGO, THREW UP A TENT THAT WAS 12 BY
12:32:06PM 12, THAT'S 144 SQUARE FEET.
12:32:08PM THREW IT RIGHT UP, AND IT STAYED UP ALL DAY.
12:32:11PM >>THOM SNELLING: DID YOU GET A PERMIT?
12:32:13PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: AT THE BEACH?
12:32:20PM NO, IT WAS 12 BY 12, 144 SQUARE FEET.
12:32:25PM >>THOM SNELLING: THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK
12:32:26PM THROUGH.
12:32:28PM NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
12:32:29PM BELIEVE ME, WE HAVE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE INDUSTRY
12:32:32PM WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
12:32:35PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:32:36PM THANK YOU.
12:32:41PM WE GO BACK TO ITEM 71.
12:32:57PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, WHERE ARE WE AT IN
12:32:59PM THE PROCESS ON 71 SINCE I CAME IN LATE?
12:33:03PM >>HARRY COHEN: STARTING.
12:33:10PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE'RE GOING TO RECAP WHERE WE'RE AT.
12:33:12PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I THOUGHT WE HAD TO CONTINUE BY RIGHT.
12:33:15PM >> NO, MR. SUAREZ IS HERE NOW.
12:33:19PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: IN THAT CASE, I REALLY HAVE TO -- HURRY UP,
12:33:23PM BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE.
12:33:24PM I'M SERIOUS.
12:33:25PM >>FRANK REDDICK: IF EVERYBODY WOULD STOP YAPPING AND LET HIM
12:33:28PM TALK SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE.
12:33:30PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, I
12:33:32PM HAVE BEEN SWORN.
12:33:34PM JUST TO RECAP, THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL
12:33:36PM USE SU 1-19-16, PROPERTY AT 3426 EAST LAMBRIGHT.
12:33:43PM THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU IS DISTANCE SEPARATION.
12:33:45PM PER CODE, WHEN YOU HAVE A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY, 1200
12:33:49PM LINEAR FOOT SEPARATION DISTANCE.
12:33:51PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:33:53PM THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3501 EAST KNOLLWOOD IS 316 FEET FROM
12:33:59PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:34:00PM SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE WAIVER FROM THE 1200 FEET DOWN TO
12:34:03PM THE 316 FEET.
12:34:06PM THAT'S WHAT'S BASICALLY BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
12:34:07PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
12:34:10PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:34:12PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE.
12:34:14PM THEY MEET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE DISTANCE
12:34:16PM SEPARATION IN.
12:34:17PM >>ERIC COTTON: ME MEET ALL THE SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENTS.
12:34:19PM THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE SITE PLAN THEY'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS
12:34:21PM IF IT'S APPROVED AND THEY GET TO PERMITTING THEN HAVE TO
12:34:24PM ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
12:34:25PM BEFORE COUNCIL, IT'S JUST THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
12:34:28PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
12:34:29PM >>ERIC COTTON: YOU'RE WELCOME.
12:34:30PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:34:31PM SO PETITIONER, YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT NOW?
12:34:39PM >> YES, SIR.
12:34:45PM >> THE PETITIONER ALREADY MADE THEIR CASE, CORRECT?
12:34:47PM WITH PERMISSION, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, IF I COULD HAVE THEM COME
12:34:52PM UP, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
12:34:57PM >>FRANK REDDICK: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:35:01PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHERE WE STAND, MS. KERT
12:35:04PM IN RELATION TO.
12:35:08PM IS IT OKAY IF I QUESTION THE APPLICANT BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT
12:35:12PM THAT I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE HEARING?
12:35:15PM >>REBECCA KERT: YES.
12:35:16PM I WOULD JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT THE APPLICANT AND ALL
12:35:19PM PARTIES HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL DECISION
12:35:22PM MAKER WHO HAS HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE.
12:35:24PM IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD SOMETHING AND YOU NEED TO HAVE AN
12:35:27PM OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO RESTATE HER CASE AGAIN.
12:35:29PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: ME ASKING QUESTIONS IS PERFECTLY FINE.
12:35:31PM >>REBECCA KERT: PERFECTLY FINE.
12:35:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD.
12:35:47PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: MA'AM, COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR NAME?
12:35:50PM >> MY NAME IS CATHERINE MUKWELLE.
12:35:57PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE WHEN YOU FIRST
12:36:01PM PRESENTED.
12:36:01PM DO YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE IN ORDER TO OPEN UP
12:36:04PM YOUR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AFTER WE GIVE YOU THE -- IF WE
12:36:08PM GIVE YOU THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO DO SO?
12:36:10PM >> YES.
12:36:11PM THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THE ZONING BECAUSE OF THE OTHER GUY, THE
12:36:16PM OTHER BUSINESS PERSON WHO IS OPERATING AN ASSISTED LIVING
12:36:22PM FACILITY.
12:36:22PM THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAD WITH THE CITY.
12:36:25PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION, THOUGH.
12:36:29PM THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU PREPARED -- YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN
12:36:32PM PERMISSION AND AGREEMENT FROM THE STATE IN ORDER TO OPEN
12:36:34PM THIS FACILITY?
12:36:35PM YOU QUALIFY FOR ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF IT?
12:36:39PM >> YES.
12:36:40PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: HAVE YOU BEEN IN THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS BEFORE
12:36:42PM PREVIOUSLY?
12:36:43PM >> IN A DIFFERENT STATE.
12:36:45PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN A DIFFERENT STATE.
12:36:46PM WHICH STATE IT WAS?
12:36:48PM >> KANSAS.
12:36:49PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU WERE IN KANSAS.
12:36:50PM >> YES.
12:36:51PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WELCOME TO FLORIDA.
12:36:52PM >> THANK YOU.
12:36:52PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: IN TERMS OF THIS, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT YOU
12:36:56PM INHERITED OR DID YOU BUY IT --
12:36:58PM >> I JUST BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
12:36:59PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU JUST BOUGHT IT.
12:37:01PM >> LAST YEAR, PURPOSEFULLY FOR THE BUSINESS.
12:37:03PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOUR APPLICATION IS NOT -- LET ME SEE HOW I
12:37:09PM CAN ASK THIS.
12:37:10PM YOU HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
12:37:12PM YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR AN APPROVAL FROM US FIRST IN ORDER TO
12:37:18PM PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:37:20PM >> NO, I ALREADY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY LAST YEAR.
12:37:22PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WERE YOU
12:37:24PM LOOKING INTO MAKING THIS INTO AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AT
12:37:26PM THAT TIME?
12:37:27PM >> YES, THAT IS THE MAIN FOCUS, WHY I BOUGHT IT.
12:37:29PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: BEFORE YOU PURCHASED THE HOUSE, DID YOU LOOK
12:37:31PM AT WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS WERE FOR THIS TYPE OF USE OF THE
12:37:35PM HOME?
12:37:35PM >> YES.
12:37:37PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU DID.
12:37:37PM >> I MADE MY INQUIRY AND I FOUND OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO
12:37:41PM OWNS A BUSINESS AROUND THAT VICINITY HAD ASSISTED LIVING
12:37:49PM SERVICE AND DEALS ACTUALLY WITH A DIFFERENT CATEGORY OF THE
12:37:56PM CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH.
12:37:58PM SO THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON WHY I DIDN'T MAKE ANY OTHER
12:38:03PM SUGGESTION THAT IT WOULD NOT PASS.
12:38:07PM BECAUSE USUALLY WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA, ACCORDING TO APD,
12:38:12PM IF BOTH ARE NOT DOING THE SAME BUSINESS, THEY DON'T HAVE A
12:38:17PM PROBLEM WITH IT.
12:38:17PM YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THE ZONING.
12:38:20PM SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO ENCOUNTER THIS PROBLEM
12:38:26PM WITH THIS PROPERTY.
12:38:27PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION WHICH IS YOU
12:38:29PM WERE LOOKING AT STATE STATUTE AND YOU WEREN'T LOOKING AT
12:38:31PM WHAT THE LAND USE PURPOSE WAS IN TERMS OF THE SEPARATION.
12:38:34PM YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT BEFOREHAND.
12:38:36PM >> I KNEW ABOUT THE SEPARATION.
12:38:37PM I KNEW ABOUT THE SEPARATION QUITE WELL, BUT THE PROBLEM WAS
12:38:41PM WE DEAL WITH TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORY OF BUSINESS.
12:38:45PM SO THAT WAS IT.
12:38:47PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE THE
12:38:50PM CATEGORY IS BASED ON WHAT THE STATE IS SAYING.
12:38:52PM IT'S NOT BASED ON THE SEPARATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR
12:38:55PM PURPOSE.
12:38:56PM THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
12:38:58PM SO YOU ALREADY KNEW THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THE CITY
12:39:02PM CONCERNING THE SEPARATION OF THE DISTANCE FROM ONE FACILITY
12:39:06PM TO ANOTHER.
12:39:07PM >> YES.
12:39:08PM I CAME HERE AND MAKE AN INQUIRY AND THEY TOLD ME ONLY THING
12:39:13PM I COULD DO WAS TO PETITION ABOUT IT.
12:39:15PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.
12:39:16PM I APPRECIATE IT.
12:39:17PM THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
12:39:31PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
12:39:33PM QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:39:36PM ALL RIGHT.
12:39:38PM SO WE CAN GO BACK TO THE MOTION.
12:39:44PM WHERE WE GO FROM HERE?
12:39:45PM >> PUBLIC.
12:39:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC ON THE MERITS.
12:39:55PM >>FRANK REDDICK: WE OPEN IT UP TO THE MERITS NOW.
12:39:57PM ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 71?
12:40:00PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESTRICT IT TO A CONTINUANCE.
12:40:02PM >> MY NAME IS RUTH J. FLEMMING.
12:40:05PM MY ADDRESS IS 3605 EAST LAMBRIGHT STREET.
12:40:12PM I DO OPPOSE THE ZONE BEING CHANGED IN OUR AREA.
12:40:19PM WE ARE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
12:40:23PM THERE ARE NO BUSINESSES IN OUR AREA, AND MOST OF THE
12:40:27PM RESIDENTS ARE ELDERLY PEOPLE.
12:40:31PM SOME ARE STILL WORKING, AND WE HAVE A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD,
12:40:41PM AND THE ZONING PART WE DO NOT WANT IT CHANGED FROM
12:40:49PM RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT IT IN A COMMERCIAL-TYPE
12:40:54PM BUSINESS NOW.
12:40:55PM I TALKED WITH GLORIA AT THE ZONING DEPARTMENT, LAND
12:41:03PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, AND SHE SAID THAT THIS ITEM HAD
12:41:10PM BEEN DENIED, AND THE REASON IT WAS DENIED IS BECAUSE WE HAVE
12:41:17PM THE SAME TYPE FACILITY ON 37th STREET, AND IT SHOULD BE
12:41:25PM 1200 FEET APART.
12:41:27PM AND THIS COMES WITHIN 316 FEET.
12:41:31PM SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN.
12:41:37PM WE HAVE A SCHOOL, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN OUR AREA, AND WE
12:41:42PM HAVE 50 KIDS THAT THE PARK, WOODLAND TERRACE PARK STAFF GO
12:41:48PM TO THE SCHOOL EVERY DAY, AND GET THE CHILDREN, AND THEY WALK
12:41:54PM THEM FROM THE SCHOOL TO THE PARK FOR AFTER-SCHOOL CARE UNTIL
12:42:01PM THEIR PARENTS CAN COME AND PICK THEM UP.
12:42:03PM WE WANT A VERY SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR CHILDREN NOW, I HAVE
12:42:10PM LIVED ON LAMBRIGHT FOR AT LEAST 25 YEARS.
12:42:17PM WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS BEFORE, AND NOW THINGS ARE
12:42:21PM PICKING UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:42:24PM THE POLICE HAVE TO COME OFTEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, AND
12:42:30PM WE JUST DON'T APPROVE OF THAT.
12:42:34PM WE DON'T WANT AN ADDITIONAL FACILITY --
12:42:38PM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
12:42:39PM >>FRANK REDDICK: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
12:42:41PM >> -- OF THIS NATURE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'RE ASKING
12:42:44PM CITY COUNCIL TO DENY THIS BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION.
12:42:49PM WE ARE ONE OF THE STRONGEST NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GROUPS IN
12:42:55PM TAMPA, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T ATTEND THE
12:42:57PM NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH MEETINGS.
12:43:01PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:43:01PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MS. CAPIN.
12:43:03PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING.
12:43:06PM I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
12:43:07PM IF I LEAVE, WE'RE BACK TO FOUR AND IT WILL BE AN AUTOMATIC
12:43:09PM CONTINUANCE.
12:43:10PM I NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'VE CONTINUED FROM 12 NOON,
12:43:13PM AND I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
12:43:15PM >>FRANK REDDICK: HOW MUCH TIME --
12:43:17PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'M LATE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
12:43:19PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:43:20PM GIVE ME A BALLPARK, FIVE MINUTES?
12:43:23PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YEAH, FIVE MINUTES.
12:43:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: ALL RIGHT.
12:43:25PM SO YOU ALL WANTED TO --
12:43:28PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, I
12:43:32PM DON'T WANT TO NOT LET YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
12:43:35PM SO IF YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE TO SPEAK -- IF I LEAVE, IT WILL
12:43:39PM BE BACK TO FOUR.
12:43:47PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK REGARDLESS --
12:43:51PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I WILL BE LEAVING.
12:43:53PM I'M NOT GOING TO STAY PAST FIVE MINUTES.
12:43:55PM YOU WILL BE BACK TO FOUR.
12:43:59PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: I DON'T THINK WE CAN STOP THE PROCESS.
12:44:00PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: YOU'RE RIGHT.
12:44:02PM I'M SORRY.
12:44:04PM >>FRANK REDDICK: LET ME SUGGEST THIS.
12:44:08PM THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SPOKE, AND I
12:44:11PM BELIEVE HER COMMENT REPRESENTS ALL OF THOSE WHO WANT TO
12:44:18PM STAND UP THERE AND SPEAK.
12:44:19PM IF WE CAN ACCEPT WHAT SHE REPRESENTED TO US BECAUSE THAT'S
12:44:26PM -- THEY ARE GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.
12:44:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MY CLARIFY THE RECORD, IF THEY COME
12:44:33PM AND SAY I AGREE, I AGREE, I AGREE.
12:44:35PM THAT WAY IT'S ON THE RECORD OR I DISAGREE.
12:44:38PM >>FRANK REDDICK: IF YOU ALL WILL COME BACK --
12:44:45PM >> JAMES MOORE.
12:44:46PM I AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
12:44:48PM >>FRANK REDDICK: THANK YOU.
12:44:51PM >> LEVI FLEMMING, AND I AGREE.
12:44:58PM >> BRIAN EVERETT, I --
12:45:06PM >> ANTOINETTE PEARSON, I AGREE.
12:45:10PM >> I'M YVONNE DOUGLAS, I AGREE WITH MS. FLEMMING.
12:45:15PM >> I'M JARED BALLOON, I AGREE.
12:45:19PM >> MARIE MOSELEY, AND I AGREE.
12:45:22PM >> MATTHEW JAMES AND I AGREE, EXCEPT FOR ONE EXCEPTION.
12:45:26PM YOUR -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WE WERE HERE FOR THE
12:45:33PM TREE PEOPLE AND THE TENT PEOPLE, VERY QUIETLY BACK THERE.
12:45:37PM THAT WAS NOT OUR FAULT BECAUSE OF THE TIME, WHAT I'M SAYING
12:45:41PM IS -- WENT OUT AND DID THE REPORTING, I WANT TO KNOW IF THEY
12:45:46PM HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
12:45:48PM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
12:45:52PM >> THIS IS NOT ABOUT TREES.
12:45:53PM >> TRANSPORTATION WENT OUT AND HAD A VARIANCE.
12:45:55PM I WANT TO KNOW IF THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
12:45:58PM CAN I ASK THE QUESTION?
12:46:06PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: I HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I'M LEAVING.
12:46:09PM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:46:11PM THE ISSUES RAISED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT WITH TRANSPORTATION
12:46:13PM WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED IF THIS IS APPROVED AT TIME OF
12:46:16PM PERMITTING.
12:46:19PM YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
12:46:24PM >> FLORA, I AGREE.
12:46:27PM >> ELLA FLORA, I AGREE.
12:46:33PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MA'AM, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
12:46:35PM ANY REBUTTAL?
12:46:37PM >> YES.
12:46:39PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MAKE IT QUICK.
12:46:41PM >> THE QUESTION OF WHICH --
12:46:44PM >>FRANK REDDICK: STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.
12:46:46PM >> CATHERINE MUKWELLE.
12:46:47PM I'M SORRY FOR WHAT THEY ARE ALL DISAGREEING WITH THE CURRENT
12:46:55PM SITUATION.
12:46:56PM THE SAME CHILDREN THAT WANT TO LIVE IN THAT HOME, THEY ARE
12:46:59PM GOING TO GO TO THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL.
12:47:02PM THEY ARE GOING TO THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL.
12:47:06PM SO HOW WOULD THEY TRY TO DEPRIVE ANOTHER CHILDREN FROM
12:47:09PM BENEFITING FROM THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT THEIR OWN PARENT
12:47:14PM ALSO PAY TAXES?
12:47:16PM THEY WILL BE GOING TO THE SAME SCHOOL.
12:47:19PM THESE CHILDREN WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, THE CHILDREN
12:47:24PM WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN THAT AREA WILL ATTEND THE
12:47:30PM SAME PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
12:47:34PM THE PARENT NOT ALLOWED OR DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT FOR THE
12:47:37PM CHILDREN TO GO TO THAT COMMUNITY SCHOOL IN THE AREA?
12:47:40PM DOES IT MEAN BECAUSE A CHILD IS BORN MENTALLY DISABLED
12:47:45PM SHOULD BE DEPRIVED OF THE RIGHT TO GO TO SCHOOL?
12:47:47PM I DON'T THINK SO.
12:47:48PM THE MAIN FOCUS IN THAT HOME IS TO ENABLE PARENTS WHO CANNOT
12:47:54PM DEAL WITH CHILDREN WITH DEVELOPMENTAL AND LEARNING
12:47:57PM DISABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN A FACILITY WHICH IS
12:48:02PM GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN.
12:48:03PM IS IT NOT ALL OF US CAN BE DISABLED TOMORROW.
12:48:11PM PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH DISABILITIES.
12:48:12PM WHEN WE ARE PREGNANT AS MOTHERS, DO WE KNOW THE TYPE OF
12:48:18PM CHILDREN BORN?
12:48:20PM DO WE KNOW THE TYPE OF CHILDREN WE GIVE BED TO?
12:48:22PM WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO DEPRIVE A CHILD WITH LEARNING
12:48:27PM DISABILITY TO NOT STAY IN THE COMMUNITY?
12:48:29PM IS THAT FAIR?
12:48:30PM IS THAT FAIR?
12:48:33PM I ASK ALL OF YOU.
12:48:36PM >>FRANK REDDICK: NO, NO.
12:48:38PM YOU TALK TO US.
12:48:40PM >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST LIKE DEPRIVING ANOTHER
12:48:44PM PARENT WITH CHILDREN WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND
12:48:47PM LEARNING DISABILITY NOT TO STAY IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS
12:48:51PM INTEGRATED.
12:48:53PM THAT IS NOT FAIR.
12:48:54PM TO ME, IT IS NOT FAIR.
12:48:56PM IT IS NOT FAIR.
12:48:58PM THESE CHILDREN WITH LEARNING DISABILITY DON'T CAUSE ANY
12:49:02PM ISSUE IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:49:04PM BECAUSE THE SAME SCHOOL THAT ALL THESE CHILDREN ARE
12:49:08PM ATTENDING, THEY HAVE CHILDREN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH
12:49:12PM BEHAVIORAL DISORDERS, HAVE THE PRINCIPAL REFUSED THEM FROM
12:49:16PM GOING TO THAT SCHOOL?
12:49:17PM I DON'T THINK SO, NO.
12:49:18PM DEPRIVE THE CHILDREN FROM GOING TO THAT SCHOOL, SO BE IT.
12:49:24PM IT'S VERY, VERY UNFAIR FOR ANOTHER PARENT WHO IS TRYING TO
12:49:31PM GO TO WORK AND KEEP THEIR CHILD SOMEWHERE TO HAVE EDUCATION
12:49:36PM AND SOMEWHERE COME IN THERE AND PUT A HINDRANCE FOR THAT
12:49:41PM CHILD NOT TO GO TO SCHOOL.
12:49:42PM I REST MY CASE.
12:49:47PM >>FRANK REDDICK: CAN WE GET A MOTION?
12:49:49PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:49:50PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.
12:49:51PM SECONDED BY MR. SUAREZ.
12:49:53PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:49:54PM OPPOSED?
12:49:55PM PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:49:57PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: CHAIR, I'LL TAKE THIS.
12:49:58PM I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF
12:50:02PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SU 1-19-16 BECAUSE PETITIONER
12:50:06PM FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE PETITION, IF THE WAIVER IS
12:50:09PM GRANTED, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS
12:50:11PM SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-129, SEE SECTION 27-61 SUB B AND
12:50:18PM 27-127 SUB B SUB 2.
12:50:23PM IN ADDITION, BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT'S LAID OUT IN OUR
12:50:25PM CITY ORDINANCES AND BY THE ADMISSION OF THE APPLICANT
12:50:28PM THEMSELVES, THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS A RESTRICTION OF THE
12:50:32PM DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES BUT
12:50:35PM CONTINUED TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS REGARDLESS AND WAITED FOR
12:50:39PM THIS ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
12:50:43PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. SUAREZ.
12:50:44PM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:50:46PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.
12:50:48PM THOSE OPPOSED?
12:50:48PM ALL RIGHT.
12:50:50PM THE REQUEST HAS BEEN DENIED.
12:50:54PM WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS.
12:50:58PM MR. MIRANDA.
12:51:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
12:51:03PM >>YVONNE CAPIN: NONE.
12:51:13PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MR. MANISCALCO.
12:51:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
12:51:14PM I HAVE TWO ITEMS.
12:51:18PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:51:18PM >> GOT TO LEARN NOW, WE'RE STILL IN BUSINESS.
12:51:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR
12:51:30PM MAY 23rd, 2019, FOR CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AGENDA, TO
12:51:34PM DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS BEING PROCESSED AS PART
12:51:37PM OF THE JANUARY 2019 CODE AMENDMENT CYCLE.
12:51:40PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
12:51:42PM MR. MIRANDA.
12:51:43PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:51:44PM OPPOSED?
12:51:45PM OKAY.
12:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN JUST A CLARIFICATION, I MADE A
12:51:48PM MOTION ON APRIL 11 FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL PUBLIC
12:51:54PM HEARING.
12:51:55PM YOU'LL SEE IT.
12:51:56PM I DID NOT SET A TIME FOR THAT.
12:51:58PM I WANT TO SET IT FOR 5:01 P.M.
12:52:00PM THAT WOULD BE FOR JUNE 27, 2019, MEETING.
12:52:04PM >>FRANK REDDICK: MOTION FROM MR. MANISCALCO.
12:52:06PM SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:52:07PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
12:52:09PM OPPOSED?
12:52:09PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:52:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:52:12PM HAPPY EASTER.
12:52:13PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT ANY EGGS?
12:52:17PM MR. COHEN.
12:52:18PM >>HARRY COHEN: NO THANK YOU, SIR.
12:52:20PM >>MIKE SUAREZ: NOTHING OTHER THAN HAPPY EASTER.
12:52:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:52:24PM >>FRANK REDDICK: GOT A MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
12:52:26PM MR. MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS.
12:52:29PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:52:30PM OPPOSED?
12:52:31PM ALL RIGHT.
12:52:31PM WE STAND ADJOURNED.
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