TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 25, 2019
10:00 A.M.
CRA SPECIAL MEETING
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10:55:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- A
10:55:18 SPECIAL CALLED CRA MEETING TO
10:55:19 ORDER.
10:55:20 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:55:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: HERE.
10:55:24 >>HARRY COHEN: HERE.
10:55:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:55:27 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:55:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:55:29 ALL RIGHT.
10:55:29 WE'LL FIRST GO TO PUBLIC
10:55:30 COMMENT.
10:55:31 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO
10:55:34 SPEAK ON ANY MATTER ON THE
10:55:35 AGENDA?
10:55:41 >> [OFF MICROPHONE].
10:55:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY WHO
10:55:42 WISHES TO SPEAK?
10:55:44 SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR
10:55:45 THE RECORD AS YOU APPROACH.
10:55:46 >> SURE.
10:55:47 IT'S LORRIN SHEPARD.
10:55:50 I'M WITH THE DAVID A. STRAZ,
10:55:52 JR. CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING
10:55:52 ARTS AS THE CHIEF OPERATING
10:55:53 OFFICER.
10:55:54 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN
10:55:55 THIS MORNING.
10:55:56 I'M HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE
10:55:57 THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ITEM IN
10:55:58 FRONT OF YOU THIS MORNING
10:56:01 REGARDING THE DEMOLITION OF THE
10:56:05 LIBRARY TO HELP REALIZE THE AIR
10:56:12 TOWER ROADWAY PLAN, AND I SPOKE
10:56:16 LAST WEEK WITH A BIT OF
10:56:17 OPTIMISM ON A NUMBER OF ITEMS,
10:56:19 HAVING MET WITH BOB McDONAUGH
10:56:21 JUST PRIOR TO SPEAKING WITH YOU
10:56:23 AND WAS ENCOURAGED BY SOME
10:56:24 PROGRESS THAT WE WERE MAKING
10:56:26 BUT A WEEK LATER NOW, HAVING
10:56:27 RECEIVED SOME -- SOME WRITTEN
10:56:32 RESPONSES, I DO HAVE CONCERNS
10:56:34 ABOUT THE COMPONENTS THAT INURE
10:56:36 TO THE STRAZ CENTER, AND I'M
10:56:37 HERE TO SEEK YOUR ADVICE.
10:56:39 I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE TO
10:56:39 GO.
10:56:41 THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A
10:56:42 PROCESS FOR ME TO GET
10:56:45 ASSURANCES, WRITTEN ASSURANCES,
10:56:48 FOR ITEMS LIKE OUR ARRIVAL
10:56:49 PLAZA.
10:56:50 VERBALLY IT'S BEEN APPROVED
10:56:53 THAT OUR ARRIVAL PLAZA CAN BE
10:56:54 EXTENDED IN THE MANNER THAT WE
10:56:55 WANTED TO.
10:56:56 IN FACT, WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY
10:56:57 PLEASED WITH SOME
10:56:59 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ROB ROSNER
10:57:01 MADE IN TERMS OF THAT DESIGN,
10:57:04 BUT I'M NOT RECEIVING -- I'VE
10:57:07 NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING IN
10:57:08 WRITING FOR THAT, IT'S JUST
10:57:09 BEEN VERBAL.
10:57:09 IT'S BEEN A WEEK.
10:57:11 I DON'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT
10:57:11 IS.
10:57:12 I'VE PROVIDED THE DRAWING THAT
10:57:14 WE WOULD LIKE APPROVED.
10:57:16 IT HASN'T COME BACK TO ME.
10:57:17 THERE ARE SOME OTHER ASPECTS TO
10:57:20 THIS PROCESS THAT CONFUSE ME.
10:57:23 WHEN I PROVIDED A LONG LIST OF
10:57:26 ITEMS THAT -- NOT A LONG, BUT
10:57:28 MAYBE 10, 15 ITEMS THAT WE WANT
10:57:30 ATTENDED TO THAT HAVE BEEN
10:57:31 SPOKEN ABOUT BEFORE, THE
10:57:33 RESPONSE CAME BACK, WELL, THESE
10:57:35 ARE CITY ITEMS AND THESE ARE
10:57:36 DEVELOPER ITEMS, SO WE KNOCKED
10:57:38 ON THE DOOR OF THE DEVELOPER,
10:57:39 AND THE DEVELOPER RESPONDS.
10:57:41 THERE'S NOT A UNIFIED APPROACH
10:57:41 TO THIS.
10:57:43 THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AN
10:57:45 ENTITY THAT'S TAKING CONTROL OF
10:57:46 THE WHOLE PROJECT, IT'S DIVVIED
10:57:48 UP BETWEEN PARTIES.
10:57:50 THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR US, IT'S
10:57:54 CONFUSING, AND A CURIOSITY FOR
10:57:55 ME.
10:57:56 ANOTHER THING IS IN LOOKING
10:57:58 HARD AT THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS
10:58:02 THAT GOVERN THIS PROJECT, THE
10:58:04 FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE LEASE
10:58:08 -- AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO
10:58:08 BE -- PERHAPS THE NEXT COUNCIL
10:58:10 WILL BE PRESENTED THE FIFTH
10:58:13 AMENDMENT -- INDICATES THAT
10:58:19 BEFORE -- PRIOR TO CLOSING THE
10:58:21 -- THE ROADWAY PLANS AND
10:58:25 ARRIVAL PLAZA EXPANSION HAVE TO
10:58:27 BE APPROVED, SIGNED OFF, AND
10:58:30 AGREED UPON, AND THEN THE CLOCK
10:58:33 STARTS ABOUT, I GUESS, 45 DAYS
10:58:34 UNTIL CLOSING.
10:58:35 IT'S THERE PRIMARILY TO PROTECT
10:58:36 OUR INTERESTS AND TO PROTECT
10:58:37 THE INTERESTS OF THE DEVELOPER.
10:58:39 I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT'S
10:58:39 HAPPENED.
10:58:42 SO AS WE MOVE TOWARDS CLOSING,
10:58:44 I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY
10:58:47 CONCERNS, SEEK YOUR ADVICE.
10:58:49 YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT WILL
10:58:54 PROBABLY BRING AD VALOREM TO
10:58:56 THE -- TO THE AMOUNT OF MAYBE A
10:58:58 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, WHICH
10:58:58 IS WONDERFUL.
10:59:00 I MEAN, I THINK IT'S -- WE LOVE
10:59:01 ALL THAT'S GOING ON.
10:59:03 WE'RE NOT STANDING HERE TO
10:59:04 OBJECT TO THIS PROJECT.
10:59:06 WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO GO
10:59:08 FORWARD WITH THE THINGS THAT WE
10:59:10 FEEL WE NEED TO GET, AND I
10:59:12 DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THEM IF I
10:59:13 DON'T GET GOOD, CLEAR
10:59:15 COMMUNICATION IN A TIMELY
10:59:17 MANNER AS THIS MOVES FORWARD.
10:59:19 THE CENTER ITSELF, FOR MANY
10:59:21 YEARS, HAS HAD A VALUE AND A
10:59:23 DOCUMENTED VALUE OF $100
10:59:24 MILLION A YEAR IN ECONOMIC
10:59:27 IMPACT, SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S
10:59:28 TAKE THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND
10:59:30 PUT THAT ASIDE.
10:59:33 IF WE LOOK AT 20 TO 25 YEARS OF
10:59:36 $100 MILLION A YEAR, YEAR AFTER
10:59:39 YEAR, AND IMPROVEMENT YEAR
10:59:40 AFTER YEAR, WHERE'S THE RESPECT
10:59:42 FOR THAT VALUE?
10:59:44 WHO'S WRITING MY DOCUMENTS?
10:59:47 WHO'S MAKING SURE THAT WE GO
10:59:48 FORWARD?
10:59:49 AGAIN, THE IMPORTANT THING I
10:59:51 WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS WE'RE NOT
10:59:53 HERE TO OBSTRUCT, WE'RE LOOKING
10:59:56 FOR A PARTNERSHIP, AS WE'VE --
10:59:57 AS WE'VE ENJOYED MANY YEARS
11:00:00 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BRING
11:00:02 THE THINGS FORWARD TO A
11:00:04 FAVORABLE CONCLUSION FOR THE
11:00:06 STRAZ CENTER, THINGS LIKE OUR
11:00:07 MARQUEE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN
11:00:10 DOWN OFF OF THE CROSS BRIDGE.
11:00:12 THE REPLACEMENT OR MOVEMENT OF
11:00:13 THAT IS UNDER DISPUTE NOW
11:00:15 BETWEEN ME AND THE DEVELOPER.
11:00:17 THE CITY'S NOT STEPPING IN TO
11:00:19 DEFEND ME OR HELP ME OR TO
11:00:21 CONTEST THE DEVELOPER, THEY'RE
11:00:23 JUST LEAVING IT BETWEEN US,
11:00:23 AND --
11:00:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WE
11:00:28 HAVE MR. McDONAUGH'S COMING UP
11:00:29 WITH THE -- WE HAVE THE
11:00:31 RESOLUTION, BUT MR. McDONAUGH,
11:00:33 CAN YOU ADDRESS HIS CONCERNS OR
11:00:34 ANY QUESTIONS THAT HE DIDN'T
11:00:34 UNDERSTAND?
11:00:35 >> [OFF MICROPHONE].
11:00:36 >> WE'RE HERE TO PARTNER.
11:00:37 >> PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE ARE
11:00:41 WEARING OUR CRA HATS AT THE
11:00:42 MOMENT; WHEREAS, A LOT OF
11:00:43 CONCERNS RAISED [OFF
11:00:46 MICROPHONE] TODAY.
11:00:48 MOST OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED
11:00:50 WOULD BE ADDRESSED TO YOU
11:00:52 SITTING AS CITY COUNCIL OR TO
11:00:53 THE ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS
11:00:55 BASICALLY THE ONE WHICH IS
11:00:58 NEGOTIATING ANY AGREEMENTS OUT
11:00:58 HERE.
11:00:59 I JUST WANTED TO --
11:01:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:01:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:01 >> YOU BET.
11:01:05 I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
11:01:05 VOTE ON -- YOU HAVE THE
11:01:05 OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON
11:01:06 SOMETHING TODAY THAT CAN MOVE
11:01:06 THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
11:01:08 I'D ASK YOU TO TAKE INTO
11:01:09 CONSIDERATION HOW I CAN
11:01:12 POSSIBLY GET WHAT WE FEEL WE'VE
11:01:13 BEEN PROMISED.
11:01:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:01:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:16 WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO
11:01:18 SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
11:01:18 ALL RIGHT.
11:01:20 SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO
11:01:21 SOME REQUIRED APPROVALS.
11:01:24 ITEM NO. 1, DOWNTOWN NON-CORE
11:01:24 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
11:01:25 PROGRAM CHANGE.
11:01:25 MR. McDONAUGH.
11:01:29 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:01:29 BOB McDONAUGH ECONOMIC
11:01:29 DEVELOPMENT.
11:01:30 WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS
11:01:31 MORNING IS THE APPROVAL OF
11:01:36 FUNDING, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE
11:01:39 DEMOLITION OF THE BRIDGE AND
11:01:41 THE ANNEX TO THE JOHN F.
11:01:43 GERMANY LIBRARY, WHICH WILL
11:01:45 ALLOW THE STRAIGHTENING OF
11:01:45 MACINNES.
11:01:50 I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A PLAN
11:01:53 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY -- IF
11:01:57 YOU'LL LOOK, THIS IS THE
11:01:58 EXISTING CONDITION RIGHT NOW,
11:02:02 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT MACINNES
11:02:05 RUNS RIGHT INTO THE LIBRARY
11:02:07 ANNEX.
11:02:08 THE ORIGINAL PLANS THAT WERE
11:02:18 DEVELOPED FOR THIS PROJECT DID
11:02:20 NOT HAVE A STRAIGHT SHOT FOR
11:02:25 MACINNES, IT WAS ACTUALLY A --
11:02:31 I'VE BLOWN THIS UP.
11:02:33 THE ROADWAY HAD A CURVE IN IT,
11:02:34 AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:02:35 ENGINEERS, TRANSPORTATION
11:02:37 ENGINEERS, SAID, YOU KNOW, IF
11:02:38 YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND
11:02:40 WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE
11:02:41 NEXT 25 OR 30 YEARS, LET'S DO
11:02:43 IT CORRECTLY, AND SO THE
11:02:50 PROPOSAL IS TO REMOVE THE ANNEX
11:02:55 AND TO HAVE MACINNES GO
11:02:56 STRAIGHT THROUGH TO COMPLETE
11:02:58 THE ROAD NETWORK, AND THAT'S
11:03:00 WHAT THE FUNDING WOULD BE FOR.
11:03:02 THIS WOULD BE PART OF AN ESCROW
11:03:05 AGREEMENT WHERE KIMMINS
11:03:08 CONSTRUCTION WOULD DO THE WORK,
11:03:09 AND THEY'RE A WELL-KNOWN
11:03:10 CONTRACTOR THAT DOES A LOT OF
11:03:11 WORK FOR THE CITY, AND WOULD
11:03:14 ALLOW US TO DO -- COMPLETE THE
11:03:19 ROAD NETWORK IN THAT AREA.
11:03:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN
11:03:20 COHEN.
11:03:21 >>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I GUESS MY
11:03:27 MAJOR FIRST QUESTION IS THIS IS
11:03:31 REALLY TO MR. MARTIN'S POINT
11:03:33 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MR. SHEPARD
11:03:35 WAS REFERRING TO IN TERMS OF
11:03:36 THE ISSUES THAT ARE OF CONCERN
11:03:37 TO HIM.
11:03:38 >> THAT'S ACCURATE.
11:03:39 >>HARRY COHEN: SO MY QUESTION
11:03:41 IS -- ON HIS BEHALF, TO HIS
11:03:42 QUESTION, WHEN IS THE
11:03:45 APPROPRIATE TIME FOR HIM TO --
11:03:46 FOR THOSE ISSUES TO BE
11:03:46 ADDRESSED?
11:03:48 IT MAY NOT BE AS PART OF THIS
11:03:50 VOTE HERE, BUT WHEN IS IT AND
11:03:51 UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES?
11:03:53 >> COUNCIL'S GOING TO BE ASKED
11:03:54 TO CONSIDER SOME DOCUMENTS THIS
11:03:56 EVENING IN TONIGHT'S MEETING,
11:03:57 AND THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED RIGHT
11:03:58 THEN.
11:04:01 JUST AS A BRIEF REBUKE OF WHAT
11:04:08 WAS STATED WAS THAT THERE HAS
11:04:08 BEEN A LAUNDRY LIST OF
11:04:08 REQUESTS.
11:04:09 MANY OF THEM HAD TO DO WITH
11:04:11 ROAD DESIGN, WHICH THE CITY OF
11:04:13 TAMPA, THEIR ENGINEERS, HAS THE
11:04:15 FINAL SAY ON, NOT A REAL ESTATE
11:04:17 DEVELOPER, AND SO I HAVE
11:04:20 RESPONDED IN WRITING TO ALL OF
11:04:21 THOSE.
11:04:21 THE ONLY THING I HAVE NOT
11:04:24 RESPONDED TO IN WRITING IS THE
11:04:27 -- THE FINAL APPROVAL BY THE
11:04:30 ADMINISTRATION FOR THE WIDENING
11:04:32 OR INCREASE OF SIZE OF THEIR
11:04:34 ARRIVAL PLAZA, AND PART OF THAT
11:04:39 WOULD BE TIED TO THESE NEW ROAD
11:04:40 NETWORKS AND HOW IT FUNCTIONS,
11:04:41 WHICH WE'LL CERTAINLY BE
11:04:44 WILLING TO DO.
11:04:45 AS FAR AS SOME OF THE OTHER
11:04:47 THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, I
11:04:49 CAN SAY THAT ORIGINALLY THE
11:04:55 REQUEST WAS TO MOVE THE SIGN,
11:04:56 AND IN THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL
11:04:58 BACK TO THE STRAZ, THEY SAID
11:04:59 YES, THEY TALKED TO THEIR SIGN
11:05:01 COMPANY AND WILL MOVE THE SIGN
11:05:05 AT A COST OF $33,500, IF I
11:05:06 REMEMBER THE NUMBER.
11:05:07 SUBSEQUENTLY, THE STRAZ SAID,
11:05:08 YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PREFER A NEW
11:05:09 SIGN WITH A MAINTENANCE
11:05:10 AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS
11:05:12 CONSIDERABLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
11:05:14 ANOTHER OUTSTANDING ISSUE IS A
11:05:16 CROSSWALK, WHICH GOES ACROSS
11:05:21 TYLER STREET, WHICH THE
11:05:22 DEVELOPER SAID, WE'LL BUILD A
11:05:23 CROSSWALK AS YOU ASKED.
11:05:25 CAME BACK AS WE WOULD LIKE A
11:05:27 CROSSWALK THAT IS WIDER THAN
11:05:28 THE 13 FEET THAT YOU'VE
11:05:30 PROPOSED, 17 FEET, AND WE WOULD
11:05:31 LIKE IT STRUCTURALLY ENGINEERED
11:05:34 TO BE ABLE TO HOLD A SIGN, AND
11:05:35 IF YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
11:05:37 THE ENGINEERS ARE SAYING THAT
11:05:38 YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND
11:05:41 PUT A PYLON DOWN INTO THE
11:05:43 MIDDLE OF TYLER STREET, WHICH
11:05:45 WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE
11:05:46 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
11:05:46 PLUS IT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY
11:05:48 MORE EXPENSIVE.
11:05:49 SO THOSE ARE TWO OF THE
11:05:51 OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT I'M
11:05:53 AWARE OF THAT THE SCOPE OF WHAT
11:05:54 WAS BEING ASKED TO THE
11:05:57 DEVELOPER HAS CHANGED, AND
11:05:58 THESE CONVERSATIONS CAN TAKE
11:06:01 PLACE BETWEEN THIS MORNING AND
11:06:02 THIS EVENING.
11:06:02 >>HARRY COHEN: YEAH.
11:06:04 I MEAN, IT DOES SOUND LIKE
11:06:05 THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT COULD BE
11:06:06 DEALT WITH TODAY; RIGHT?
11:06:08 >> HOPEFULLY, YES.
11:06:08 >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
11:06:09 >> THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE
11:06:10 IMPASSE BECAUSE SOME OF THE
11:06:11 REQUESTS, AT LEAST FOR ME BEING
11:06:14 A THIRD PARTY, SEEMS TO BE A
11:06:15 MOVING TARGET THAT --
11:06:17 >>HARRY COHEN: EXCUSE ME, WHAT?
11:06:18 >> A MOVING TARGET, THAT
11:06:20 SOMETHING IS AGREED UPON AND
11:06:22 THEN AN ENHANCEMENT IS ASKED
11:06:23 FOR.
11:06:24 >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
11:06:27 SO -- BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU
11:06:28 ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS
11:06:29 TO US TONIGHT?
11:06:30 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:06:31 >>HARRY COHEN: OKAY.
11:06:33 SO -- AND TONIGHT REALLY IS OUR
11:06:34 LAST BITE AT THE APPLE.
11:06:35 >> I UNDERSTAND.
11:06:36 BECAUSE YOU'VE LIVED WITH THIS
11:06:37 FOR A LONG TIME.
11:06:40 YOU'RE AN EDUCATED PARTY.
11:06:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:06:41 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:06:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT
11:06:43 TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE
11:06:44 HEARD NOW ABOUT THE MARQUEE,
11:06:45 I'VE HEARD NOW ABOUT THE
11:06:46 EXPANSION.
11:06:47 I EVEN HAD A VERY QUICK
11:06:49 CONVERSATION, AND I DON'T KNOW
11:06:50 WHO'S RIGHT OR WHO'S WRONG, I
11:06:51 DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
11:06:53 APPREHENSION'S ALL ABOUT, BUT
11:06:57 WE DON'T FORM CONTRACTS, WE
11:06:58 EITHER APPROVE CONTRACTS OR NOT
11:07:00 APPROVE CONTRACTS, BUT THE
11:07:00 CONTRACT DEPARTMENT, AS I
11:07:02 UNDERSTAND IT, IS ALL OF THE
11:07:05 ADMINISTRATION REGARDING THE
11:07:05 SALE OF A PROPERTY, THE
11:07:06 BUILDING OF SOMETHING AND THEN
11:07:06 BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES THAT
11:07:08 COME TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND
11:07:09 WHAT IT IS, AND THAT BEING
11:07:11 SAID, WHATEVER WAS SAID IN THE
11:07:13 PAST ON EITHER SIDE, ON THE
11:07:15 STRAZ SIDE OR THE DEVELOPER'S
11:07:16 SIDE, THEN THEY HAVE TO
11:07:17 UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER THEY
11:07:19 SAID IS HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE.
11:07:24 IF THEY VOTE -- IT DIDN'T COME,
11:07:25 THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY HAD
11:07:26 -- THIS IS THE SIGN AND I DON'T
11:07:28 KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, AFTER
11:07:30 MOVING THE SIGN, THEY WANT A
11:07:31 NEW SIGN, I DON'T KNOW.
11:07:33 NOW, I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE.
11:07:35 THEN I HEARD ABOUT TREES.
11:07:36 WELL, THEY SHOULD KNOCK DOWN
11:07:37 TREES.
11:07:38 WE CAN'T KNOCK TREES.
11:07:38 I DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE A FACT.
11:07:39 I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF TREES
11:07:41 THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY
11:07:43 WERE THE SAME SPECIES OF TREES,
11:07:44 AND THAT'S WHEN WE WERE IN THE
11:07:45 HEAT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
11:07:47 TREE ORDINANCE, SO I'M SITTING
11:07:49 BACK HERE WATCHING THIS THING
11:07:50 SAYING, WOW, IF YOU'RE THIRD
11:07:51 PARTY, WE'RE FIFTH PARTY
11:07:53 BECAUSE YOU TWICE ARE IN IT ALL
11:07:54 THE TIME, WE'RE NOT.
11:07:56 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SAID OR
11:07:56 DIDN'T SAY.
11:07:58 WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS
11:07:59 SAID, AND SHAME ON BOTH OF THEM
11:08:01 IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN
11:08:02 WRITING AS THEY'RE GOING ALONG
11:08:04 BECAUSE AT THE END WE'RE GOING
11:08:06 TO BE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR
11:08:08 SAYING YEA OR NAY ON A
11:08:09 CONTRACT.
11:08:12 AND THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION
11:08:14 LIKE WE SHOULD BE IN AT THE END
11:08:16 AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO
11:08:17 MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT THEY
11:08:21 HAVE TO COME TOGETHER.
11:08:23 I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY SIDE
11:08:24 GET HURT, BUT WHATEVER THEY
11:08:26 AGREE TO, THAT'S HOW I'M GOING
11:08:27 TO VOTE, IN THE PAST.
11:08:28 IF THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND,
11:08:29 SORRY ON THEM ON EITHER SIDE.
11:08:30 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:08:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:08:32 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:08:33 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
11:08:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: MR. McDONAUGH,
11:08:36 LET'S GO BACK TO -- I'M GOING
11:08:38 TO FOLLOW THE LINE OF THINKING
11:08:39 THAT MR. MIRANDA'S TALKING
11:08:39 ABOUT.
11:08:41 THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS NOT
11:08:43 CUTTING IN TO WHERE THE ANNEX
11:08:45 WAS, CORRECT, BECAUSE WE WERE
11:08:46 GOING TO MOVE IT.
11:08:47 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:08:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NOW, I KNOW THAT
11:08:49 WE HAVE REALLY GOOD ENGINEERS,
11:08:51 AND, OBVIOUSLY, THEY CAN'T DO
11:08:53 ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S IN A
11:08:55 STRAIGHT LINE, OBVIOUSLY.
11:08:57 I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WAS THE
11:08:59 ORIGINAL INTENT FOR THAT
11:09:00 PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY
11:09:01 WHEN WE DID THIS -- BECAUSE I
11:09:07 THINK IT WAS 2013 WHEN WE FIRST
11:09:08 STARTED THIS DISCUSSION, I'M
11:09:08 NOT SURE.
11:09:10 >> 2008, ACTUALLY.
11:09:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, BEFORE I
11:09:12 WAS HERE, OF COURSE, THAT WAS
11:09:12 DIFFERENT.
11:09:13 >> YES, SIR.
11:09:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHEN WE MADE THE
11:09:16 INITIAL AGREEMENT TO SELL --
11:09:17 >> MM-HMM, YES.
11:09:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: -- A PORTION OF
11:09:20 OUR LAND IN ORDER FOR THIS
11:09:22 DEVELOPMENT TO GO FORWARD -- I
11:09:24 THINK IT WAS 2013, I MAY BE
11:09:25 WRONG, BUT IF I RECALL
11:09:26 CORRECTLY, THERE WAS NO
11:09:27 DISCUSSION ABOUT USING THE
11:09:29 ANNEXED LAND FOR ANY PURPOSES
11:09:31 AT ALL AT THAT TIME, AND I MAY
11:09:32 BE WRONG.
11:09:33 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M
11:09:34 RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
11:09:36 >> NO, THAT'S CORRECT.
11:09:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO -- AND I WANT
11:09:42 TO UNDERSTAND WHY -- AND I KNOW
11:09:42 WHAT YOU SAID IN TERMS OF THE
11:09:44 ENGINEERING PORTION OF IT.
11:09:45 IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE
11:09:45 TO ME.
11:09:46 I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU BECAUSE
11:09:48 WE MADE A DEAL IN 2013 THAT
11:09:49 DIDN'T HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH
11:09:50 THAT.
11:09:51 NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A
11:09:51 PROBLEM.
11:09:52 >> NO, IT'S NOT.
11:09:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT WAS --
11:09:54 WELL --
11:09:56 >> EXCUSE ME.
11:09:57 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I JUST WANT TO
11:09:58 MAKE SURE I GET THIS RIGHT.
11:09:59 >> RIGHT.
11:09:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: WHAT WAS THE
11:10:01 PLAN TO DO WITH THE ANNEX
11:10:02 ANYWAY, BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, WE
11:10:03 WERE GOING TO HAVE AN ANNEX.
11:10:05 THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME
11:10:08 THOUGHT PROCESS, EITHER FROM
11:10:08 YOUR DEPARTMENT OR SOMEBODY
11:10:08 ELSE IN THE ADMINISTRATION WHO
11:10:09 SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE
11:10:10 GOING TO HAVE THIS LAND OVER
11:10:11 HERE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO
11:10:12 WITH THIS AFTER THIS OTHER
11:10:14 PROJECT GETS BUILT?
11:10:16 >> ORIGINALLY THE ANNEX WAS --
11:10:17 CONTINUED TO BE OCCUPIED.
11:10:19 IT WAS NOT DETERMINED TO BE
11:10:20 SURPLUSED BY THE COUNTY UNTIL
11:10:21 AFTER THAT POINT.
11:10:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AH, OKAY.
11:10:25 SO THEN YOU'VE ANSWERED ONE OF
11:10:27 MY QUESTIONS, WHICH IS WHEN DID
11:10:28 WE KNOW THAT WE COULD USE THAT
11:10:29 FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT
11:10:30 THE CURRENT USE IS?
11:10:31 >> RIGHT.
11:10:33 ACTUALLY, AS THIS CONVERSATION
11:10:34 GOES ON, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING
11:10:36 AT THE JOHN F. GERMANY LIBRARY
11:10:37 ITSELF, AND WHAT'S INTERESTING
11:10:38 IS THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT
11:10:39 PROPERTY --
11:10:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
11:10:41 >> -- AND WE OWNED IT
11:10:42 ORIGINALLY, AND THERE WAS A
11:10:43 SPECIAL ACT BY THE STATE
11:10:44 LEGISLATURE REGARDING LIBRARIES
11:10:46 THAT THEY I BECAME OPERATED BY
11:10:49 THE COUNTIES, AND, THUS, THEY
11:10:50 WERE ABLE TO GET STATE FUNDING,
11:10:51 AND SO THAT'S HOW THIS IS WHERE
11:10:52 IT IS.
11:10:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YOU'RE GOING ON
11:10:54 TO MY NEXT QUESTION --
11:10:55 >> YES, SIR.
11:10:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: -- WHICH IS THE
11:10:57 LIBRARY ITSELF.
11:10:58 YOU'VE MENTIONED THE SPECIAL
11:10:59 ACT.
11:11:00 >> YES, SIR.
11:11:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: THIS IS ALL
11:11:04 HEARSAY THAT I'M GOING TO TELL
11:11:06 YOU NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF
11:11:06 IT'S TRUE.
11:11:08 SO I'M GOING TO BELIEVE YOU --
11:11:09 NOT REALLY, BUT I'M GOING TO
11:11:10 LISTEN TO YOU --
11:11:10 >> YES, SIR.
11:11:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: -- THAT THE
11:11:11 LIBRARY ITSELF CANNOT BE
11:11:14 CHANGED, IT HAS TO CONTINUE TO
11:11:15 BE AS A LIBRARY, IS THAT
11:11:17 CORRECT, THAT LAND OR NO?
11:11:18 >> NO, SIR.
11:11:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
11:11:20 SO THAT'S AN ANECDOTE THAT WAS
11:11:22 TOLD TO ME THAT IS NOT A TRUE
11:11:24 STATEMENT, MEANING WE CAN DO
11:11:25 SOMETHING WITH THAT LAND IN
11:11:25 CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY
11:11:27 BECAUSE WE STILL OWN IT; IS
11:11:27 THAT CORRECT?
11:11:28 >> IF THE COUNTY DETERMINED
11:11:30 THAT THEY NO LONGER NEEDED TO
11:11:32 OPERATE A LIBRARY THERE, THEN
11:11:33 THERE WOULD BE A REVERSION OF
11:11:35 THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY.
11:11:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
11:11:36 THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
11:11:36 SO, ACTUALLY, THAT GOES ALONG
11:11:38 THE SAME LINES OF WHAT I WAS
11:11:40 JUST MENTIONING, WHICH IS IF
11:11:41 THE COUNTY DECIDES TO NO LONGER
11:11:42 HAVE A LIBRARY IN THAT
11:11:43 LOCATION, THEN IT REVERTS BACK
11:11:44 TO US, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE
11:11:45 SAYING?
11:11:46 >> MM-HMM.
11:11:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
11:11:48 BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PART OF
11:11:48 THE ANNEX.
11:11:49 I WAS WONDERING WHY WE WERE
11:11:51 DOING THIS NOW WITH THE ANNEX.
11:11:52 YOU EXPLAINED PART OF THAT.
11:11:53 I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
11:11:55 THE -- THE ROAD HAS TO BE
11:11:55 CHANGED.
11:11:57 I THINK THAT -- BECAUSE NOW
11:11:59 THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY --
11:12:00 AND I TOLD YOU THIS PRIVATELY,
11:12:04 SO I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING OUT
11:12:05 OF SCHOOL, I THINK.
11:12:06 NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT
11:12:08 OPPORTUNITY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE
11:12:09 TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
11:12:09 OPPORTUNITY AS A SEPARATE
11:12:10 PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S THE CITY
11:12:11 THAT DOES IT IN CONJUNCTION
11:12:14 WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER OR SOME
11:12:15 OTHER PROJECT LOOKING DOWN THE
11:12:16 LINE TO WHERE THE LIBRARY IS
11:12:18 GOING TO BE OR WHAT'S GOING TO
11:12:18 HAPPEN WITH THAT.
11:12:19 WE KNOW THAT THE LIBRARY ITSELF
11:12:21 IS AN ANACHRONISM.
11:12:23 UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THAT
11:12:25 EVERYTHING IS GOING, YOU KNOW,
11:12:27 PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GATHER VS.
11:12:28 PEOPLE -- PLACES WHERE PEOPLE
11:12:30 ACTUALLY GET BOOKS ARE NOT
11:12:31 NECESSARILY THE SAME PLACES
11:12:34 ANYMORE, AND I THINK THAT WE
11:12:36 NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND
11:12:37 EVENTUALLY FIND SOME OTHER WAY
11:12:40 OF DEALING WITH THAT PROPERTY,
11:12:42 DOWNSIZING IT OR DOING
11:12:43 SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT, BUT IF
11:12:44 WE DO THIS DEAL, DOES IT HAVE
11:12:46 AN EFFECT ON THE REST OF THE
11:12:47 OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE
11:12:48 ASSOCIATED WITH IT?
11:12:51 AND, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE
11:12:53 PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IS, YOU
11:12:56 KNOW, ONE PIECE OF THIS, WHICH
11:12:57 I THINK MR. COHEN SAID IT, AND
11:12:59 I THINK MR. MARTIN SAID IT,
11:13:00 WHICH IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO
11:13:01 DEAL WITH THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE
11:13:02 RIGHT NOW.
11:13:05 MR. MIRANDA SAID IT PROPERLY,
11:13:06 WHICH IS WE HAD AN AGREEMENT
11:13:06 BACK IN WHENEVER, WE NEED TO
11:13:07 FIGURE THAT OUT.
11:13:09 >> RIGHT, MM-HMM.
11:13:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SO I'M MORE
11:13:11 HESITANT IN DEALING WITH THE
11:13:12 ANNEX PORTION OF IT AND
11:13:13 CHANGING THE ROADWAY, ONLY
11:13:15 BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT WE
11:13:19 AGREED TO THE FIRST TIME IN
11:13:20 2013, DIFFERENT ISSUES, OF
11:13:22 COURSE, BUT I'M HAVING A LITTLE
11:13:23 BIT OF HEARTBURN THERE.
11:13:25 THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT
11:13:26 THE ANNEX BRIDGE, NOT BECAUSE
11:13:28 OF THE SIGNAGE BUT BECAUSE IT
11:13:29 WAS AGREED TO FROM THE FRIENDS
11:13:31 OF THE LIBRARY, THAT WAS A BIG
11:13:34 ISSUE AT THAT TIME, AND WHAT --
11:13:35 HOW'S THAT GOING TO BE SOLVED
11:13:37 OR IF IT IS GOING TO BE SOLVED,
11:13:38 AND I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT
11:13:39 LOOKING AT THE WHOLE THING
11:13:41 TOGETHER, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT
11:13:43 THE ONE PIECE, AND EVEN THOUGH
11:13:44 I'M NOT GOING TO BE ON COUNCIL
11:13:48 NEXT WEEK OR IN YEARS COMING, I
11:13:49 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
11:13:49 HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
11:13:51 AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WANT
11:13:52 TO STOP THIS PROJECT, I DON'T.
11:13:53 I THINK THAT -- I VOTED FOR IT
11:13:54 THE FIRST TIME.
11:13:56 I STILL WANT IT TO GO FORWARD,
11:13:57 BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S
11:13:59 SOME ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW,
11:14:00 COME TO A LARGER SENSE OF WHAT
11:14:02 WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE REST
11:14:02 OF THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE I'D
11:14:04 RATHER SEE IT BE A BIGGER
11:14:06 PROJECT THAN A SMALLER PROJECT,
11:14:07 IF YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:14:08 >> I DO.
11:14:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: AND I'M NOT SURE
11:14:10 WHERE TO GO WITH THIS.
11:14:11 I THINK MAYBE TONIGHT WE'RE
11:14:12 GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME MORE
11:14:14 ANSWERS BASED ON SOME OF THE
11:14:15 ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP
11:14:17 FROM THE PERFORMING ARTS
11:14:18 CENTER, BUT ALSO THE ROADWAY
11:14:19 AND OTHER ISSUES WE MIGHT WANT
11:14:20 TO ASK ABOUT.
11:14:22 >> I CAN TELL YOU THE REMAINDER
11:14:25 PARCEL IS MORE THAN TWO ACRES.
11:14:26 AN AVERAGE DOWNTOWN BLOCK IS
11:14:27 LESS THAN AN ACRE.
11:14:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.
11:14:30 >> SO THE REMAINING PARCEL IS A
11:14:31 SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF LAND FOR
11:14:32 DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
11:14:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH.
11:14:34 >> WHAT THIS DOES IS IMPROVES
11:14:36 THE STREET GRID IN THE MODEL
11:14:37 THAT WE WANT.
11:14:38 IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY WERE
11:14:40 CONFLICTING PAIRS, NORTH AND
11:14:41 SOUTH, AND NOW WE HAVE IMPROVED
11:14:43 THE STREET GRID.
11:14:44 AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
11:14:45 IT CORRECTLY AS OPPOSED TO
11:14:46 HAVING A CHICANE IN IT.
11:14:49 A LOT OF TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE, A
11:14:50 LOT OF VISITORS TO THE STRAZ.
11:14:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH.
11:14:52 >> THIS IS TO PERFECT THE ROAD
11:14:53 NETWORK.
11:14:53 >>MIKE SUAREZ: YEAH.
11:14:55 NO, I AGREE, AND ACTUALLY, I'VE
11:14:57 USED THAT CUT-THROUGH ON THERE
11:14:58 ALL THE TIME WITHOUT PERMISSION
11:14:58 --
11:14:59 [LAUGHTER]
11:15:00 -- WHICH GOES UNDER THE --
11:15:02 WHICH GOES NEXT TO THE ANNEX
11:15:03 AND UNDER THE BRIDGE.
11:15:05 >> RIGHT.
11:15:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NOBODY EVER SAID
11:15:08 NO, SO I USED TO USE IT ALL THE
11:15:10 TIME, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY
11:15:11 THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO
11:15:11 ALL THIS.
11:15:11 THANK YOU.
11:15:12 APPRECIATE IT.
11:15:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN
11:15:13 COHEN.
11:15:14 >>HARRY COHEN: YEAH.
11:15:15 I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING
11:15:16 TO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER, AND
11:15:19 THAT IS RELATED TO TONIGHT.
11:15:21 AND THIS IS TO MR. SHEPARD'S
11:15:22 COMMENT ABOUT WHAT'S IN WRITING
11:15:23 OR WHAT ISN'T IN WRITING.
11:15:24 >> RIGHT.
11:15:25 >>HARRY COHEN: WHATEVER GETS
11:15:26 SAID TONIGHT ON THE RECORD AS
11:15:28 FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IS IN
11:15:29 WRITING BECAUSE IT'S PART OF
11:15:30 THE SWORN RECORD OF THIS
11:15:31 PROCEEDING.
11:15:32 >> CORRECT.
11:15:33 >>HARRY COHEN: SO IT WOULD BE
11:15:34 WONDERFUL IF IN THE INTERIM
11:15:36 BETWEEN NOW AND TONIGHT THESE
11:15:37 LAST FEW ISSUES COULD BE WORKED
11:15:39 OUT, BUT IF THEY NEED TO BE
11:15:41 TALKED THROUGH, THAT DISCUSSION
11:15:42 IS ACTUALLY GOING TO THEN BE
11:15:43 PART OF THE RECORD OF THIS
11:15:44 CASE.
11:15:46 >> UNDERSTAND.
11:15:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:15:47 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:15:48 NO.
11:15:50 ALL RIGHT.
11:15:53 WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:15:55 CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE THAT
11:15:59 RESOLUTION.
11:16:00 >> [OFF MICROPHONE].
11:16:05 >> I'M SORRY.
11:16:08 IS THAT A MOTION FROM
11:16:08 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ?
11:16:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO.
11:16:09 I'M SAYING -- ALL I SAID WHO'S
11:16:10 GOING TO MOVE IT BECAUSE THE
11:16:12 RESOLUTION ITSELF IS JUST THE
11:16:14 FUND THE DEMOLITION OF THE
11:16:15 CURRENT ANNEX, IF I'M CORRECT.
11:16:16 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:16:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT DOESN'T DO
11:16:18 ANYTHING ELSE, AND I WANT TO
11:16:19 MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT ABOUT
11:16:20 THAT.
11:16:23 MR. MARTIN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS?
11:16:23 >> I'VE GOT THIS.
11:16:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WAS GOING TO
11:16:24 SAY -- I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT.
11:16:26 >> I'VE MORE THAN SEEN IT, AND
11:16:26 --
11:16:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I WANT TO MAKE
11:16:29 SURE THAT THAT IS THE ONLY
11:16:30 FUNCTION THAT IT HAS RIGHT NOW.
11:16:32 >> THE ONLY THING THIS DOES IS
11:16:35 CREATE A [OFF MICROPHONE].
11:16:36 WE WILL DIRECT IT BETWEEN THE
11:16:37 CRA AND THE DEVELOPER TO ALLOW
11:16:41 AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING
11:16:42 FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE ANNEX
11:16:47 AND THE -- BASICALLY THE
11:16:47 REHABILITATION OF THE REMAINING
11:16:49 STRUCTURE.
11:16:50 >>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S A RELEASE
11:16:51 OF FUNDS IN ORDER FOR THE
11:16:52 DEMOLITION AND THAT
11:16:53 REHABILITATION?
11:16:54 >> CORRECT.
11:16:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.
11:16:55 ALL RIGHT.
11:16:57 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE
11:16:57 WE'RE STRAIGHT ABOUT IT.
11:16:59 I MEAN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
11:16:59 THAT PORTION OF IT.
11:17:00 I THINK THE OTHER ISSUES HAVE
11:17:02 TO COME UP LATER ON TODAY.
11:17:03 I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
11:17:04 >>HARRY COHEN: I'LL SECOND IT.
11:17:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A
11:17:06 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN SUAREZ,
11:17:08 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
11:17:10 ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?
11:17:10 NO.
11:17:11 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:17:12 ANY OPPOSED?
11:17:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NAY.
11:17:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:17:18 MOTION PASSES WITH CAPIN --
11:17:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: CLERK, DID YOU
11:17:20 GET ALL THAT OR WAS THERE A
11:17:21 QUESTION?
11:17:23 >> NO. 1 IS THE APPROVAL OF THE
11:17:25 PROGRAM CHANGES, SO IS THAT
11:17:28 WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON?
11:17:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, SIR.
11:17:30 WE WERE VOTING ON THE
11:17:30 RESOLUTION.
11:17:30 I BELIEVE THAT WE PASSED THE --
11:17:32 >>HARRY COHEN: IT'S NO. 2.
11:17:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I THINK WE
11:17:34 PASSED NO. 1, DID WE NOT,
11:17:34 CHAIR?
11:17:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO A
11:17:35 VOTE.
11:17:37 ON NO. 1, CAN I GET A MOTION TO
11:17:37 APPROVE IT.
11:17:38 >>HARRY COHEN: SO MOVED.
11:17:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: SECOND.
11:17:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY
11:17:40 COUNCILMAN COHEN, SECOND BY
11:17:41 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
11:17:41 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:17:42 SO BOTH ARE APPROVED.
11:17:43 ALL RIGHT.
11:17:43 WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS
11:17:45 AND NEW BUSINESS BY CRA
11:17:46 MEMBERS.
11:17:46 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:17:48 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING SIR.
11:17:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN
11:17:52 MIRANDA.
11:17:53 COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN.
11:17:56 >>YVONNE CAPIN: NOTHING, SIR.
11:17:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN
11:17:56 REDDICK.
11:17:58 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
11:17:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: ONLY ONE THING,
11:18:00 SIR, AND I THINK THIS IS FOR
11:18:02 THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE
11:18:04 CONTINUING AFTER NEXT WEEK AND
11:18:04 NEW MEMBERS LIKE
11:18:05 COUNCILMAN-ELECT CITRO THAT'S
11:18:07 IN HERE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS TO
11:18:09 BE VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT THE
11:18:10 LEGISLATURE'S GOING TO DO WITH
11:18:13 CRAs, AND I THINK THAT IT'S
11:18:15 INCUMBENT ON ALL OF YOU THAT
11:18:15 SIT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AFTER
11:18:15 THIS WEEK TO CONTINUE TO WORK
11:18:17 WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO MAKE
11:18:20 SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHY CRAs
11:18:22 ARE IMPORTANT TO BUILDING THE
11:18:23 CITY, AND WE NEED ACTIVE
11:18:24 PARTICIPATION FROM THE BOARD TO
11:18:25 OUR LEGISLATORS TO MAKE SURE
11:18:26 THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT
11:18:28 DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
11:18:29 GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE
11:18:31 SUNCOAST LEAGUE OF CITIES, THE
11:18:32 FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, OR
11:18:33 EVEN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF
11:18:35 CITIES, BUT I THINK IT'S
11:18:36 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO REACH
11:18:38 OUT TO YOUR LEGISLATORS, NOT
11:18:39 THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW BUT
11:18:40 THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN
11:18:41 THOSE COMMITTEES THAT CONTROL,
11:18:42 YOU KNOW, OUR FUTURE FROM THE
11:18:43 CRA SIDE.
11:18:44 IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
11:18:47 THAT WE DO INDIVIDUALLY AS A
11:18:47 BOARD AS OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING
11:18:49 ELSE, AND I THINK IT'S -- I
11:18:50 THINK THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO HAVE
11:18:52 A BIGGER ROLE IN MAKING SURE
11:18:53 THAT THAT IS DONE.
11:18:54 AS SOMEONE THAT'S ALWAYS
11:18:56 ADVOCATED AND GONE TO
11:18:57 TALLAHASSEE TO ADVOCATE ABOUT
11:18:59 THESE ISSUES, I THINK IT'S
11:19:00 REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU
11:19:02 CONTINUE THAT -- TO DO -- TO GO
11:19:05 FORWARD.
11:19:05 I'LL DO IT FROM A PRIVATE
11:19:05 SECTOR, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS
11:19:07 REALLY INCUMBENT ON ALL OF YOU
11:19:08 ALL TO KEEP PUSHING THIS
11:19:11 FORWARD.
11:19:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:19:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:14 THAT'S IT.
11:19:15 MOTION TO ADJOURN.
11:19:17 WAIT, MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
11:19:17 FILE.
11:19:18 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
11:19:21 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
11:19:24 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.
11:19:25 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:19:25 ALL RIGHT.
11:19:26 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
11:19:26 >> 6:00?
11:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 6:00 THIS
11:19:36 EVENING.
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