TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 2, 2019
9:00 A.M. SESSION
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8:56:39AM
9:02:29AM >>CHAIRMAN LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS CALLED INTO SESSION.
9:02:31AM LET'S BEGIN WITH THE OPENING PRAYER.
9:02:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MY GOOD FRIEND MR. COLONEL JIM
9:02:36AM FLETCHER TO COME UP.
9:02:38AM COLONEL FLETCHER IS A VERY DEAR FRIEND OF MINE FOR WHOM I
9:02:41AM HAVE A LOT OF AFFECTION.
9:02:42AM COLONEL FLETCHER OCCUPIES AND WEARS MANY DIFFERENT HATS
9:02:46AM THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE.
9:02:46AM I GOT TO MEET COLONEL FLETCHER, JIM AS I AFFECTIONATELY CALL
9:02:51AM HIM, IS A MENTOR IN THE VETERANS TREATMENT CORP.
9:02:54AM JIM WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST TEN MENTORS I THINK FIRST
9:02:57AM OF MANY, MANY MENTORS AS PART OF THE VETERANS TREATMENT
9:03:03AM CORPS, ERIC HOLDER.
9:03:06AM JIM IS PRESENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF VIETNAM VETERANS OF
9:03:10AM AMERICA CHAPTER 77 AND IS ONE OF MANY IMPROVING THE LIVES OF
9:03:14AM HIS FELLOW VETERANS AND MANY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THIS GREAT
9:03:17AM STATE AND COMMUNITY. SO IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO HAVE COLONEL
9:03:20AM FLETCHER.
9:03:21AM LET'S STAND FOR THE PRAYER AND PLEASE CONTINUE STANDING FOR
9:03:23AM THE PLEDGE WHICH COLONEL FLETCHER WILL LEAD.
9:03:25AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:03:27AM GOOD MORNING.
9:03:28AM I AM HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY TO GIVE THE INVOCATION AT THE
9:03:31AM FIRST REGULAR MEETING OF THE NEWLY-ELECTED TAMPA CITY
9:03:34AM COUNCIL.
9:03:35AM MAY WE PRAY.
9:03:36AM HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON THIS MEETING, THE
9:03:42AM PATIENCE OF JOB, THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON AS THEY DO THE
9:03:47AM CITIZENS' BUSINESS.
9:03:48AM WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU BE WITH EACH OF US THIS DAY SO WE MAY
9:03:53AM REFLECT YOUR TEACHINGS IN ALL THAT WE DO. HELP US THROUGH
9:03:57AM THAT WE ARE YOUR SERVANT IN SERVICE TO OTHERS.
9:04:00AM IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.
9:04:02AM AMEN.
9:04:02AM [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
9:04:05AM [ROLL CALL]
9:04:23AM >> >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
9:04:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
9:04:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:04:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:04:35AM MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:04:36AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY --
9:04:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANTED TO REQUEST ON THE ITEMS THAT I
9:04:43AM PULLED.
9:04:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
9:04:47AM AND WE HAVE TIME SET ASIDE FOR THAT.
9:04:49AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
9:04:51AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:04:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:04:54AM OPPOSED?
9:04:55AM WE MOVE TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
9:04:57AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:04:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
9:05:13AM IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO BE HERE TO MAKE A
9:05:16AM PRESENTATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WATER DEPARTMENT.
9:05:21AM ONE IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT. IN
9:05:29AM RECOGNITION OF THE FLORIDA WATER REUSE WEEK, MAY 19 THROUGH
9:05:38AM 25, 2019.
9:05:41AM THAT MEANS THE WATER THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN THE BAY IS
9:05:44AM EFFECTIVELY WORKING. WE OVER 813 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A
9:05:48AM DAY THAT THE STATE AND THIS AREA SERVES, NOT THE CITY OF
9:05:52AM TAMPA TOTALLY BUT WE HAVE A GREAT PORTION OF THAT.
9:05:57AM IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AS THE HEAD OF THE
9:06:00AM WATER DEPARTMENT.
9:06:02AM AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN IN WATER FOR A LONG TIME.
9:06:05AM YOU DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
9:06:07AM AND YOU ARE FROM THE STATE OF KANSAS.
9:06:09AM >> YES, SIR.
9:06:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I CALL PEOPLE BY NICKNAMES AND
9:06:23AM SOMETIMES I GET CAUGHT IN MY OWN TRAP.
9:06:25AM BUT HIS NAME IS -- WHAT IS IT?
9:06:33AM MY PLEASURE.
9:06:33AM >> CHUCK WEBER: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:06:38AM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE HOW IMPORTANT
9:06:42AM WATER IS IN OUR LIVES.
9:06:44AM SO MANY TIMES WE MAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND NEVER GIVE A
9:06:47AM SECOND THOUGHT TO WATER BUT WE USE IT ALL DAY, BRUSH OUR
9:06:54AM TEETH, TAKE SHOWERS, WASH THE DISHES, GO SWIMMING.
9:06:57AM WE USE WATER ALL THE TIME.
9:06:59AM SO PROVIDING THIS PRECIOUS RESOURCE IS CENTRAL TO CITY
9:07:02AM SERVICE.
9:07:03AM AND AN IMPORTANT PART OF MOVING FORWARD IN PROVIDING THIS
9:07:07AM SERVICE IS INCLUDING WATER REUSE IN OUR PLANT TO MAKE SURE
9:07:11AM THAT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME WE HAVE AN A.M., SAFE WATER
9:07:15AM SUPPLY.
9:07:15AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:07:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHUCK WEBER.
9:07:21AM AND ONE SECOND.
9:07:24AM THIS WAS NOT WHAT WE REHEARSED IN PRACTICE.
9:07:26AM WHAT DOES THE RECLAIM MEAN TO THE AREA OF FUTURE GROWTH FOR
9:07:31AM NOT ONLY THIS AREA BUT FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA?
9:07:34AM >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WATER READINGS SO FAR HAS BEEN REALLY
9:07:40AM FOCUSED ON IRRIGATION.
9:07:42AM AND THAT'S WORKED WELL.
9:07:47AM ONE OF THE OTHER WAYS TO REUSE WATER -- AND YOU MAY ASK WHY
9:07:56AM YOU NEED IT IN AN AREA THAT GETS PLENTY OF RAINFALL, AND THE
9:08:00AM BOTTOM LINE IS IT ONLY RAINS FOR A LITTLE WHILE DURING THE
9:08:03AM YEAR.
9:08:03AM MOST OF THE MONTHS ARE DRY.
9:08:04AM AND WHEN STORMS DO COME WE NEED TO USE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES.
9:08:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT LONG-TERM, THE
9:08:15AM SAME WATER THAT WE HAVE 300 MILLION YEARS IS THE SAME WATER.
9:08:20AM THE PROBLEM IS WE AS HUMANS KEEP GROWING IN POPULATION AND
9:08:24AM THE GRASS IS GREENER AND THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND GETS OFF
9:08:27AM KILTER.
9:08:28AM AND THAT'S WHY YOU ARE LOOKING AT REUSE PROGRAM TO POSSIBLY
9:08:32AM USE FOR DRINKING WATER USE.
9:08:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:34AM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:08:35AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:08:39AM ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING WATER DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY.
9:08:41AM AND HOW MANY TIMES
9:08:48AM THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS FOR THE DRINKING WATER SIDE.
9:08:51AM THIS WAS FOR THE REUSE SIDE. THIS IS FROM MAY 5 TO MAY
9:08:57AM 11th, 2019 CONCERNING THE RESOURCE OF WATER USE AND WHY
9:09:02AM WE HAVE THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT
9:09:05AM THING THAT WE NEED.
9:09:07AM AND THIS COUNCIL WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TO ADDRESS SOMETIME
9:09:09AM WITHIN THE NEXT DAY, STARTING TODAY, THE NEXT FOUR YEARS
9:09:12AM WHEN OUR TERM EXPIRES.
9:09:13AM WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
9:09:14AM LAST YEAR, WE HAD 1,201 WATER BREAKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:09:20AM THAT MEANS WE SPEND RESOURCES ALREADY TREATED AND A LOT OF
9:09:25AM RESOURCES, TAMPA RESOURCES, TO REPAIR, IF NOT REPLACE THE
9:09:33AM SYSTEM, AND WE ARE FALLING SHORT OF THAT.
9:09:34AM AND SINCE I AM ON THAT SUBJECT MATTER WE HAD OVER $9 MILLION
9:09:40AM LAST YEAR JUST REPLACING TREATMENT LINES.
9:09:43AM AND THIS COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO
9:09:45AM DEAL WITH SOMETHING IN EXCESS OF $3 BILLION REPAIR IN THE
9:09:49AM NEXT 20 YEARS.
9:09:50AM WITH THAT, NICE BORING TALK.
9:09:53AM I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.
9:09:55AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE SUCCESSFUL STORY OF TAMPA WATER.
9:10:00AM I KNOW YOUR MAIN SOURCE IS THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
9:10:05AM ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON
9:10:07AM DOWN, FROM TRUCK DRIVERS TO HAVE REPAIRMEN TO PEOPLE WHO
9:10:11AM WORK IN THE PLANT AND PEOPLE WHO TEST THE WATER, WE WANT TO
9:10:13AM SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US A RESOURCE THAT IS
9:10:16AM TRULY ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS WE CAN HAVE.
9:10:19AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:19AM >> THANK YOU.
9:10:20AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:10:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD A COMMENT.
9:10:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:10:33AM HOW ARE YOU?
9:10:34AM KANSAS, IS IT?
9:10:35AM ANYWAY, CHUCK, RIGHT?
9:10:40AM >> YES, SIR.
9:10:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEARS BACK WE DID THE STAR PROGRAM
9:10:43AM OBVIOUSLY BEFORE YOU WERE HERE, WHICH IS THE IRRIGATION
9:10:46AM SYSTEM NAMELY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:10:49AM AND AT THAT TIME UNDER SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS,
9:10:53AM WE HAD EXPLORED STAR 2 AS THE NEXT PHASE.
9:10:58AM I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT THIS MORNING.
9:11:01AM OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL TO HAVE AGENDA.
9:11:02AM BUT AS LONG AS YOU ARE HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT
9:11:08AM YOU PERHAPS COME BRIEF US IN A WORKSHOP ON THE FEASIBILITY
9:11:12AM AND ASPECTS OF STAR 2 AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD FIT INTO
9:11:15AM SOME EXISTING WORKSHOP IS FINE.
9:11:18AM WHENEVER YOU CAN FIT IT IN.
9:11:19AM BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IRRIGATION AS A POSSIBILITY.
9:11:25AM I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
9:11:27AM IS EXPLORING.
9:11:28AM AND I AM NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON ANY OF THAT.
9:11:31AM BUT I THINK I WOULD LIKE ALL OF US TO BE BRIEFED ON ALL OF
9:11:34AM THE OPTIONS INCLUDING THE IRRIGATION.
9:11:39AM AND IT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT REUSE.
9:11:42AM IT'S REUSE WEEK.
9:11:43AM AND OBVIOUSLY IRRIGATION IS WORKING IN A BIG WAY IN
9:11:46AM PINELLAS, AND IN A MUCH SMALLER WAY IN TAMPA.
9:11:49AM >> YES, SIR.
9:11:51AM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRIEF YOU ON THAT, AND HAVE MORE
9:11:55AM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT.
9:11:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:11:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:11:59AM THANK YOU.
9:11:59AM OKAY.
9:11:59AM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:12:00AM OKAY.
9:12:02AM NEXT COMMENDATION.
9:12:03AM >> IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.
9:12:25AM I HAVE A COMMENDATION THAT I WILL GIVE TO A NICE YOUNG WOMAN
9:12:28AM BY THE NAME OF RACHEL A BARCELONA.
9:12:31AM COME UP HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
9:12:33AM THIS NICE YOUNG WOMAN IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PEOPLE I
9:12:36AM HAVE MET IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
9:12:38AM RACHEL IS A VERY ACCOMPLISHED MODEL AND LITERALLY AN
9:12:43AM AMBASSADOR FOR PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, AND ALSO
9:12:47AM VOLUNTEERS IN SOMETHING SHE'S VERY OPEN ABOUT.
9:12:49AM IF YOU LOOK AT HER MANY ACHIEVEMENTS SHE'S HAD THAT INCLUDES
9:12:52AM MISS SOUTHEAST INTERNATIONAL, CONTINUING INTO THE MISS
9:12:55AM INTERNATIONAL PAGEANT, TRAVELING TO ENGLAND FOR THE GROWTH
9:12:59AM OF AUTISM PROJECT, WALKING IN NEW YORK FASHION, SERVING AS
9:13:02AM AN INTERNATIONAL AMBASSADOR FOR UNICON FOUNDATION, BEING A
9:13:07AM BOARD MEMBER FOR AUTISM RELATED DISABILITIES, AND SPEAKING
9:13:13AM BEFORE THE UNITED NATIONS AS THE KEY SPEAKER AT THE UN FOR
9:13:18AM WORLD AUTISM DAY, THESE ARE GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS FOR ANYBODY
9:13:21AM BUT ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS THESE VERY UNIQUE
9:13:24AM SPECIAL NEEDS.
9:13:26AM YOUNG CHILDREN DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM TO AGE OF 3 AFTER
9:13:30AM PARENTS NOTICED SOME DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS.
9:13:33AM WE SEE -- I MISSED YOU THERE.
9:13:39AM SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM AT THE AGE OF 3, AND HAD A LOT
9:13:43AM OF OTHER CHALLENGES THAT COME UP NATURALLY WITH THIS KIND OF
9:13:47AM CHALLENGE IN LIFE.
9:13:48AM THINGS LIKE DEALING WITH BULLYING IN SCHOOL, MANAGING THE
9:13:52AM SOCIAL AWKWARDNESS THAT WE ALL HAVE GOING THROUGH SCHOOL,
9:13:56AM AND THEN IMAGINE GOING THROUGH THAT WITH A CONDITION LIKE
9:13:58AM AUTISM.
9:13:58AM SHE SUFFERED THROUGH SEIZURES AT THE AGE OF 11 AND MANY
9:14:02AM OTHER CHALLENGES THAT SHE'S BEEN SO VERY OPEN WITH, BUT WITH
9:14:05AM THE HELP OF HER FAMILY, HER FAITH AND JUST HER BASIC
9:14:08AM ABILITIES AND SEE SHE HAS MANAGED TO DO THINGS THAT SHIRLEY
9:14:12AM VERY FEW OF US IN THIS ROOM CAN DO.
9:14:14AM ALSO FOR THAT AND SO MUCH MORE, IT IS OUR REAL PLEASURE AND
9:14:17AM HONOR TO GIVE RACHEL BARCELONA A CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION.
9:14:24AM IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
9:14:25AM >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:27AM IT'S SUCH AN HONOR, AND THE AUTISM PROJECT IS VERY MUCH MY
9:14:38AM PASSION.
9:14:39AM OVER IN THOSE PARTS OF THE WORLD, AUTISM IS NOT KNOWN AT
9:14:42AM ALL.
9:14:42AM AND THAT IS SOMETHING AND IT'S ALSO AN HONOR TO BE IN THE
9:14:50AM TAMPA BAY AREA, AND NOW TAMPA BAY IS A CERTIFIED AUTISM
9:14:58AM FRIENDLY.
9:15:00AM THIS HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BY INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS IN
9:15:04AM AWETISM AND THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS TO BE INCREASE ACCEPTANCE
9:15:08AM IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:15:10AM MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS TO UNDERSTAND
9:15:16AM THAT WE AS AUTISTIC INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT.
9:15:22AM WE ARE CAPABLE OF ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY STANDING HERE.
9:15:30AM SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.
9:15:32AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:34AM I WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WAS NEWLY ELECTED.
9:15:48AM I'M VERY PROUD OF EVERYBODY.
9:16:00AM TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND JANE CASTOR.
9:16:03AM SHE IS NOT HERE TODAY AND I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I LOVE
9:16:08AM HER SO MUCH.
9:16:11AM (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK)
9:16:13AM DIVERSITY ORGANIZATION THAT I AM VERY FOND OF.
9:16:19AM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE.
9:16:22AM THANK YOU.
9:16:22AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:16:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING. AS A PERSON WHO HAS WORKED
9:16:47AM WITH CHILDREN ALL MY LIFE, I UNDERSTAND.
9:16:49AM SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
9:16:51AM >> YES.
9:16:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I'M GLAD THAT CHAIRMAN VIERA HAS START
9:16:55AM ADD GOOD THING WITH THE AUTISM PARK.
9:16:59AM I WANT THAN TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN MY DISTRICT.
9:17:02AM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, IN MY DISTRICT WE LACK A LOT OF
9:17:07AM THINGS AND I WANT TO SEE YOUR COALITION COMING TO THE EAST
9:17:12AM SIDE OF TOWN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE
9:17:14AM FUTURE.
9:17:15AM AND THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILMAN.
9:17:17AM >> THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING US THIS MORNING.
9:17:23AM WE NEED MORE PEOPLE WHO CANNEN SPIRE OTHERS.
9:17:26AM I HOPE TO SEE YOU.
9:17:31AM >> MS. BARCELONA, I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE WONDERFUL THINGS
9:17:36AM YOU HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED.
9:17:37AM BUT WE DID NOT KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALSO AN OPERATIC SINGER.
9:17:42AM AND STRIVING FOR MISS FLORIDA AND HOPEFULLY MISS USA.
9:17:46AM I WE SHALL YOU WELL ON ALL YOUR ENDEAVORS.
9:17:48AM YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH.
9:17:49AM AND REMEMBER THE HARD WORK AND PERSEVERANCE DOES PAY OFF.
9:17:53AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:53AM >> THANK YOU.
9:17:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT.
9:18:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:18:03AM NEXT UP WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:18:05AM WE HAVE THROW MINUTES ALLOTTED FOR ANYONE THAT WISHES TO
9:18:08AM SPEAK ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
9:18:10AM PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN.
9:18:13AM STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
9:18:14AM THANK YOU.
9:18:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:18:16AM CONNIE BURTON, TAMPA.
9:18:19AM FIRST, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
9:18:22AM AND IN THE PRAYER THIS MORNING, IN THE MENTION BY THE
9:18:27AM MINISTER, THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF GREAT THAT ARE MENTIONED,
9:18:36AM THROUGH BIBLE VERSES.
9:18:37AM WHAT INSPIRE ME IS THESE MEN HAD WHAT I DON'T SEE UP THERE
9:18:41AM BECAUSE I AM NOT FRIGHTENED BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT IS A
9:18:44AM WOMAN, A WOMAN IN THEIR LIFE, A MOTHER, HOPEFULLY SISTER, SO
9:18:50AM THEIR INSPIRATION, THEY HAD TO DO GOOD BY ALL.
9:18:54AM ON THIS AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND I KNOW YOU KNEW IT'S THE
9:19:00AM FIRST DAY, ITEM NUMBER 36, GET A REPORT FROM STAFF ABOUT
9:19:07AM HOMELESSNESS THAT I HOPE WILL BE INCLUSIVE.
9:19:13AM THAT IT DON'T BE NUMBER 36 BUT BECOME NUMBER ONE.
9:19:17AM HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN
9:19:20AM THE CITY OF TAMPA?
9:19:21AM HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING FOR WORKING CLASS POOR PEOPLE.
9:19:25AM I CAN'T EVEN SAY AFFORDABLE NO MORE.
9:19:30AM IT'S HARD BASED ON PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS,
9:19:34AM AND NOW POOR PEOPLE ARE NOW BEING PUSHED INTO CENTERS,
9:19:38AM PUSHED INTO HOTELS, WHERE THEY ARE PAYING UP TO $60 A NIGHT.
9:19:45AM SO I HOPE THIS REPORT WILL BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL THAT YOU SEE
9:19:49AM IN EAST TAMPA.
9:19:53AM PLACES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF BUSINESS HAD IT NOT BEEN
9:19:56AM BASED ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION OF PEOPLE TRYING TO SCRAPE
9:19:59AM UP DAY BY DAY $60, $50, AND THEN FOR BREAKFAST.
9:20:06AM SO THERE'S IN THIS CITY I'M HOPING THAT THIS GROUP HEAR WILL
9:20:13AM TURN THE PAINFUL, THAT WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH DEVELOPERS
9:20:17AM YOU MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
9:20:19AM REAL QUICKLY, THE UNEMPLOYMENT SITUATION IN OUR COMMUNITY,
9:20:24AM NEW PEOPLE COMING IN, WELCOMING THEM, IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO
9:20:31AM LIVE HERE LET THEM DO IT.
9:20:32AM I SAW A MAN ATTEMPTING TO CHASE SOME CHILDREN WITH A HAMMER
9:20:35AM BECAUSE OF NOT BEING SENSITIVE ENOUGH THAT CHILDREN DO SOME
9:20:42AM AWKWARD THINGS, AND HAD IT NOT BEEN BUT FOR THE MENTION OF
9:20:49AM OTHER WOMEN I WOULD HATE TO SEE WHAT THE HEADLINES WOULD
9:20:53AM HAVE BEEN THIS MORNING.
9:20:54AM SO RIGHT NOW ON EAST TAMPA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I LOVE SO
9:20:59AM DEARLY, WE ARE SEEING A TREMENDOUS CHANGE, BUT WE DON'T PLAN
9:21:03AM ON GOING ANYWHERE. WE ARE GOING TO WELCOME NEW PEOPLE, BUT
9:21:07AM AS THEY ARE COMING IN, THEY HAVE TO BE WELCOMING TO THE
9:21:10AM COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY HERE.
9:21:11AM SO THANK YOU THIS MORNING AND WELCOME TO YOUR NEW POSITIONS.
9:21:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:21:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME ADVOCATE
9:21:27AM IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:21:29AM THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS
9:21:32AM ISSUES.
9:21:32AM NOW, I WAS AT MY BUSINESS LAST NIGHT, AND SOMEONE CALLED AND
9:21:37AM SAID MEET ME FOR DINNER.
9:21:39AM I WENT THERE.
9:21:40AM SAW A YOUNG LADY.
9:21:42AM ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD.
9:21:44AM HAD A CARRIAGE WITH A BABY, MAYBE A YEAR OLD.
9:21:48AM ANOTHER TODDLER MAYBE THREE YEARS OLD.
9:21:51AM AND AS I SAT EATING MY MEAL I WATCHED THIS YOUNG LADY AND
9:21:55AM HER CHILDREN, AND HOPING SOMEBODY WOULD GIVE HER A HANDOUT
9:22:00AM BECAUSE THE YOUNG TODDLER KEPT LOOKING, BEING A PERSON WITH
9:22:08AM CHILDREN ALL THE TIME, I KNOW THE CHILD IS HUNGRY AND THAT
9:22:11AM PERSON IS HOMELESS.
9:22:12AM AND SO THAT IS ONE OF MY FIGHTS.
9:22:16AM ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MOST ALL THESE COUNCILMEN TALKED ABOUT
9:22:19AM THOSE ISSUES.
9:22:22AM TO STAY TRUE TO THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY TOLD THE VOTERS.
9:22:25AM BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO, MY AIDE IS NEXT DOOR.
9:22:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
9:22:32AM ISSUES.
9:22:33AM AND THANK YOU FOR COMING.
9:22:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING.
9:22:43AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS ABOUT OUR BEGINNING.
9:22:46AM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, I PULLED ITEM 29 AND 30
9:22:52AM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAD ADDRESSED NOT HOMELESSNESS BUT
9:22:55AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CITY, AND
9:22:58AM OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH.
9:23:00AM MAYBE WE'LL NEVER DO ENOUGH, BUT I WANTED TO PULL THOSE
9:23:04AM ITEMS AND START HAVING DISCUSSION ON THAT.
9:23:05AM I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF IT.
9:23:08AM WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION LATER.
9:23:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:23:17AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:23:18AM >> MENTEZMOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:23:22AM I WANT TO WELCOME THE NEW PEOPLE, AND ALSO SHOUTOUT TO THE
9:23:27AM YOUNG LADY THAT SPOKE AND RECEIVED THE COMMENDATION.
9:23:32AM YOUNG LADY SPOKE VERY ELOQUENTLY AND WAS VERY REPRESENTATIVE
9:23:36AM OF SOMETHING THAT SHE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT, AND IT'S ALWAYS
9:23:39AM GOOD TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE DOING SOMETHING PROGRESSIVE.
9:23:44AM AND GETTING TO SEE PROGRESS.
9:23:46AM SEEING SEVEN MEN SITTING REPRESENTING THE CITY, THAT'S NOT
9:23:50AM PROGRESS.
9:23:52AM THAT'S NOT.
9:23:54AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO EXPAND IT SO IT COULD BE MORE
9:23:56AM INCLUSIVE BUT THAT'S NOT PROGRESS.
9:23:59AM SEEING MEN IN 2019, ON THE WAY TO 2020, HAVING WOMEN BRING
9:24:06AM THEM DRINKS AND COFFEE AND NOTES OR WHATEVER IS IN THOSE
9:24:11AM CUPS, THAT'S OFFENSIVE.
9:24:13AM THAT'S OFFENSIVE TO SEE SOMEONE GETTING TO WORK AT
9:24:15AM 10:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING OR AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AND AT
9:24:20AM 9:01 OR 9:02 OR 9:15 OR 10:15, A WOMAN IS BRINGING THEM
9:24:26AM SOMETHING TO DRINK.
9:24:28AM THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO DISCONTINUE ALTOGETHER.
9:24:31AM IT'S OFFENSIVE.
9:24:32AM I HAVE GOT DAUGHTERS.
9:24:33AM AND I HAVE GOT A MOTHER.
9:24:34AM AND I HAVE GOT AUNTIES.
9:24:37AM AND I COME FROM A SLAVE BACKGROUND.
9:24:39AM AND IT'S OFFENSIVE.
9:24:40AM JUST WHEN YOU SEE IT.
9:24:41AM IT'S OFFENSIVE.
9:24:47AM ON HOW WE ARE TREATED, WHAT'S ALLOCATED FOR US AND THIS
9:24:51AM PROJECT FROM WEEK TO WEEK, I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE AND
9:24:57AM THEY SAY NO ONE IS LISTENING.
9:24:59AM NO ONE PAYS ANY ATTENTION.
9:25:01AM AND IT'S THE TRUTH.
9:25:02AM BUT WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO, QUIT?
9:25:04AM NO, I AM NOT A QUITTER.
9:25:07AM THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE HERE IS OFFENSIVE.
9:25:09AM THE WAY THE POLICE TREAT US INSIDE OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT'S
9:25:12AM OFFENSIVE.
9:25:14AM IT'S DEHUMANIZING.
9:25:16AM IT'S DEGRADING.
9:25:17AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
9:25:20AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
9:25:23AM YEAR AFTER YEAR, DECADE AFTER DECADE, YOU HEAR THE SAME
9:25:26AM THING.
9:25:26AM EIGHT YEARS OF NIXON.
9:25:29AM EIGHT YEARS OF REAGAN.
9:25:30AM EIGHT YEARS OF BUSH.
9:25:31AM EIGHT YEARS OF CLINTON.
9:25:32AM EIGHT YEARS OF OBAMA.
9:25:33AM NOW EIGHT YEARS OF TRUMP.
9:25:37AM MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
9:25:38AM GENTRIFICATION.
9:25:39AM IT ALL LEADS TO THE SAME PATH.
9:25:41AM MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
9:25:43AM AND VENEZUELA TRYING TO GET FREE OIL.
9:25:46AM MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA THE NEXT GREAT CITY.
9:25:49AM GENTRIFICATION.
9:25:51AM IT'S ALL THE SAME THING.
9:25:52AM THE SAME KIND OF HATRED FOR POOR AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
9:25:55AM A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
9:25:58AM IT A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED, AND THE MAYOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:26:04AM WENT OUT THE LAST FEW WEEKS ON THE JOB WITH A NASTY RACIST
9:26:07AM OFFENSIVE TWEET.
9:26:09AM HE WAS TWEETING.
9:26:12AM SAID NO, IT WAS HACKED.
9:26:14AM NO, HIS FINGERS HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.
9:26:17AM AND JANE IS IN.
9:26:21AM THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. THAT SYSTEM NEEDS TO CHANGE.
9:26:23AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:26:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:26:26AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:26:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:26:34AM CHAIRMAN VIERA.
9:26:35AM MARIO NUNEZ, 15022 ROCKY LEDGE, TAMPA.
9:26:41AM SEE IF I CAN OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
9:26:46AM JUST OPEN MY COMMENTS BY SAYING CONGRATULATIONS FIRST AND
9:26:48AM FOREMOST FOR THE NEWLY SEATED MEMBERS.
9:26:54AM HAPPY DAYS ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY WHO IS INVOLVED IN TAMPA
9:26:57AM BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT WATCHED THE TAMPA NATIVES
9:27:05AM SHOW AND PARTICIPATED IN THAT ENDEAVOR.
9:27:08AM IT WAS FUN TO WATCH THE ENTIRE PROCESS PLAY OUT.
9:27:13AM TO THE VICTOR GO THE SPOILS, AND YOU GUYS ARE IN THE SEAT.
9:27:17AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT THE
9:27:20AM GENTLEMAN PREVIOUSLY SAID.
9:27:21AM IT IS KIND OF A HOMOGENEOUS CREW UP THERE, AND MAYBE A
9:27:26AM LADY'S TOUCH WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE.
9:27:27AM IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS TIME AROUND.
9:27:29AM PERHAPS NEXT TIME.
9:27:30AM BUT I AM NOT HERE TO ADDRESS THAT.
9:27:32AM I AM HERE TO SAY AS WE GO FORWARD WITH OUR NEW MAYOR AND OUR
9:27:36AM NEW ADMINISTRATION AND THE 18 THAT'S ASSEMBLED, WE SHOULD
9:27:39AM PROBABLY LOOK TOWARDS A BRANDING OF WHAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER
9:27:46AM IDENTIFYING OURSELVES AS IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND HOW WE
9:27:51AM PROJECT OURSELVES TO THE REST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE
9:27:54AM REGION OF THE SOUTHEAST, THE NATION.
9:27:57AM I RECENTLY HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF JOINING THE BOARD OF
9:28:01AM DIRECTORS UNDER THE SISTERS CITY ORGANIZATION UNDER THE
9:28:05AM AUSPICES OF TAMPA, AND BEING HOST, SO THESE THINGS ARE ALL
9:28:10AM PRESENT IN MY LIFE AT THE CURRENT TIME.
9:28:12AM MANY OF YOU HEARD ME SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUE.
9:28:16AM IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, YOU WILL PROBABLY
9:28:18AM GET THE POINT.
9:28:20AM I AM NOT HERE TO CALL ANYTHING TO ACTION.
9:28:22AM I AM NOT HERE TO PUT ANY MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR.
9:28:25AM I AM JUST HERE BASICALLY TO SAY I AM AS EXCITED AS EVERYBODY
9:28:30AM ELSE WAS YESTERDAY.
9:28:31AM THAT WAS A LOVE FEST AND I'M SO SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO BE
9:28:34AM THERE IN PERSON.
9:28:35AM I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN LOCKED OUT INTO THE OVERFLOW
9:28:39AM ROOM BECAUSE IT WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY.
9:28:41AM AS IT TURNS OUT THE PEOPLE IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM WERE
9:28:44AM WATCHING IT ON A GIANT TV SCREEN, AND SO WAS I.
9:28:48AM JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN MY BEDROOM.
9:28:50AM BUT IT WAS AMAZING.
9:28:51AM I WAS UPLIFTED.
9:28:53AM I COULD TELL IT WAS A GENUINE SENSE OF POSITIVITY, OF WHAT
9:28:57AM MIGHT BE COMING AROUND THE NEXT CORNER.
9:29:00AM YOU GUYS ARE IN CHARGE OF KIND OF HAND ON THE TILL GUIDING
9:29:04AM US THROUGH THOSE WATERS.
9:29:06AM OF COURSE WITH OUR MAYOR'S GUIDANCE AS WELL.
9:29:16AM BUT AGAIN, I'M HERE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
9:29:18AM AND I'M ALSO HERE TO SAY, AND MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE
9:29:22AM TAMPA NATIVE SHOW.
9:29:24AM MOST OF YOU.
9:29:24AM ONLY A COUPLE OF YOU HAVEN'T, TO BE QUITE HONEST.
9:29:27AM I WANT TO OFFER YOU AN INVITATION AT ANY TIME TO COME ON THE
9:29:30AM SHOW.
9:29:31AM YOU KNOW, 80% OF THE PEOPLE OF THAT VIEW THE SHOW,
9:29:34AM APPRECIATE THE SHOW AND LOVE THE SHOW, ARE YOUR
9:29:38AM CONSTITUENTS.
9:29:38AM THERE ARE 80% OF THEM VOTE.
9:29:43AM SO ANYTIME YOU GUYS HAVE AN ISSUE THAT YOU WANT TO CONNECT
9:29:45AM WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS DIRECTLY, FEEL FREE TO COME AND USE
9:29:48AM THE TAMPA NATIVE SHOW AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE YOUR
9:29:52AM CONCERNS OR CALL TO ACTION.
9:29:55AM THAT DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN TO YOU GUYS.
9:29:57AM ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA NATIVE SHOW, AND ALL OUR FANS, HAPPY
9:30:04AM DAYS.
9:30:05AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:30:05AM >> MARIO, YOU ARE A GREAT TAMPANIAN.
9:30:12AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:30:13AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:30:14AM >> MORNING.
9:30:16AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:30:17AM GOOD TO SEE YOU.
9:30:18AM LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
9:30:21AM MY NAME IS TAYLOR RALPH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON
9:30:25AM POTENTIALLY UPDATING THE GREEN BUILDING ORDINANCE TO BRING
9:30:27AM IT UP TO CURRENT STATUS.
9:30:29AM WORKING ON CREATING A MORE HEALTHY INCLUSIVE EQUITABLE
9:30:35AM COMMUNITY.
9:30:35AM I THINK ONE QUICK COMMENT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S NOT
9:30:39AM JUST ABOUT THE HOMES WHERE PEOPLE LIVE BUT ABOUT CREATING
9:30:40AM AFFORDABLE LIFESTYLE AND GIVING PEOPLE ACCESS TO MASS
9:30:46AM TRANSIT THAT IS EFFECTIVE AND REGULARLY SERVED AND THEY CAN
9:30:48AM GET THERE SAFELY BY WALKING OR BIKING WITHOUT BEING HIT BY A
9:30:51AM CAR.
9:30:52AM AND UNFORTUNATELY WE LIVE IN A CITY AND A COUNTY THAT'S ONE
9:30:55AM OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES IN THE COUNTRY FOR WALKING AND
9:30:58AM BIKING.
9:30:59AM AND A PROJECT THAT YOU ALL CAN AFFECT TODAY AND THAT'S BAY
9:31:04AM TO BAY BOULEVARD.
9:31:05AM THE PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
9:31:08AM IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HOTLY CONTESTED PROJECTS IN
9:31:12AM OUR CITY.
9:31:12AM THERE'S BEEN MORE PUBLIC OUTCRY WITH THE DECISIONS THAT OUR
9:31:17AM PREVIOUS MAYOR MADE ON THAT ROAD THAN ANY OTHER PROJECT,
9:31:20AM OVER 120 NEIGHBORS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WALK ALONG THE STREET
9:31:26AM TO PROTEST THE MAYOR'S DECISION TO LEAVE THE ROAD AS IT IS,
9:31:30AM AS A 4-LANE HIGHWAY.
9:31:32AM WE HAVE HAD 460-PLUS PETITIONERS SIGN ASKING THE MAYOR TO
9:31:37AM RETHINK HIS DECISION AND TO RECONSIDER THE PROJECT AND ALLOW
9:31:40AM FOR MORE PUBLIC INPUT AND MORE COMMUNITY BUILDINGS TO
9:31:44AM PROVIDE THE RIGHT THINGS AND BRING MORE SAFETY FEATURES AND
9:31:50AM TO CREATE THE PROJECT THAT EVERYONE WANTS.
9:31:51AM BAY TO BAY IS A ROAD THAT HAS THREE SCHOOLS ON EITHER SIDE
9:31:54AM OF IT, MULTIPLE CHURCHES, MULTIPLE SMALL BUSINESSES, IT IS A
9:31:58AM ROAD THAT COMPELS PEOPLE TO WALK AND BIKE TO DO THINGS THAT
9:32:02AM THEY WANT TO DO IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
9:32:04AM AND RIGHT NOW, BUSINESS OWNERS ARE HAVING TO LOCK THE DOOR
9:32:07AM ALONG BAY TO BAY BECAUSE IT IS SO UNSAFE.
9:32:09AM THE ROAD HAS BEEN REPAVED BUT THERE STILL IS A LAST LAYER OF
9:32:13AM ASPHALT THAT HAS NOT BEEN LAID.
9:32:15AM AND ALL WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COME
9:32:18AM TOGETHER AND TO TALK ABOUT THE STRIPING PLAN FOR THAT ROAD.
9:32:23AM WE ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
9:32:25AM THE SIDEWALKS HAVE BEEN IMPROVED.
9:32:26AM THAT'S GREAT.
9:32:27AM THE ROAD HAS BEEN REPAVED.
9:32:28AM EVERYONE IS HAPPY.
9:32:29AM BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF SPEEDING.
9:32:32AM THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS AND CRASHES ALONG THE
9:32:34AM CORRIDOR.
9:32:36AM FAMILIES ARE WALKING ON BAY TO BAY MORE THAN EVER BEFORE
9:32:39AM BECAUSE THERE'S AN ICE CREAM SHOP AND CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS
9:32:44AM AND PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
9:32:45AM PEOPLE WANT TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
9:32:47AM BUT THIS ROAD IS A DANGER TO OUR COMMUNITY.
9:32:50AM TRUCKS ARE SPEEDING DOWN IT.
9:32:52AM CARS ARE SPEEDING DOWN IT.
9:32:54AM WE NEED HELP.
9:32:55AM I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO PLEASE CONSIDER ASKING THE MAYOR TO
9:32:57AM DELAY THE PROJECT OR JUST COME TOGETHER ONE MORE TIME TO
9:33:03AM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A BLACK
9:33:05AM HOLE.
9:33:05AM THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO
9:33:08AM ASK ON FEBRUARY 20 AND 21st OF THIS YEAR.
9:33:14AM PLEASE SUPPORT THE LAST COUNCIL'S AND COMMISSION'S REQUEST
9:33:19AM AND GET THIS RIGHT.
9:33:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:33:22AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:33:23AM OKAY.
9:33:24AM ANYONE TO DID THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE
9:33:27AM MATTERS?
9:33:27AM OKAY.
9:33:28AM SEEING NONE, WE GO ON TO COMMITTEE REPORTS AND CONSENT
9:33:32AM AGENDA ITEMS.
9:33:35AM I WILL BE ASSIGNING OBVIOUSLY COMMITTEE CHAIRS.
9:33:38AM SO WHAT I WILL DO NOW IS BEGIN TO MY RIGHT WITH OUR
9:33:40AM RETURNING VETERAN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:33:45AM I'M SORRY.
9:33:46AM WE ARE GOING TO AN ORDINANCE.
9:33:48AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
9:33:51AM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:33:54AM ITEM 3 IS AN ITEM FOR FIRST READING.
9:33:57AM THESE ARE NOT NOTICED PUBLIC HEARINGS, JUST FOR FIRST
9:34:00AM READING SO YOU DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE A STAFF REPORT.
9:34:02AM THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BECAUSE FOR
9:34:10AM HISTORIC PROPERTY, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE DETAILED LEGAL
9:34:14AM DESCRIPTION, SO THIS IS JUST TO ATTACH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION
9:34:16AM FOR THE ADDRESS THAT WAS ALREADY CONTAINED IN THE ORIGINAL
9:34:20AM ORDINANCE.
9:34:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:34:22AM SO WE DO NOT HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE, CORRECT?
9:34:26AM GREAT.
9:34:26AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ITEM NUMBER 3?
9:34:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE
9:34:34AM NUMBER 2019-50 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY CITY COUNCIL OF CITY
9:34:39AM OF TAMPA ON APRIL 4, 2019 CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR FOR
9:34:43AM AN AD VALOREM FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1902 NORTH AVENIDA
9:34:48AM REPUBLICA DE CUBA BY ATTACHING EXHIBIT A, LEGAL DESCRIPTION,
9:34:53AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:34:54AM >> SECOND.
9:34:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:34:58AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:35:02AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:35:03AM OPPOSED?
9:35:03AM >>THE CLERK: THAT WAS THE FIRST READING.
9:35:06AM AND SECOND READING WILL BE JUNE 6, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
9:35:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:35:12AM NEXT ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:35:13AM IS ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT?
9:35:16AM >>REBECCA KERT: ITEM NUMBER 4 IS ALSO AN ITEM FOR FIRST
9:35:18AM READING AND NOT A PUBLIC HEARING SO YOU WILL NOT HAVE A
9:35:22AM STAFF REPORT.
9:35:23AM YOU WILL HAVE A FULL STAFF REPORT AT YOUR SECOND READING.
9:35:26AM THIS IS ACTUALLY A NEW HISTORIC PRESERVATION APPLICATION,.
9:35:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:35:35AM IF YOU COULD PLEASE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE READ ITEM
9:35:38AM NUMBER 4, SIR.
9:35:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PROPERTY TAX
9:35:47AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
9:35:49AM RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
9:35:53AM YBOR VARADERO, LLC, LOCATED AT 1915 NORTH AVENIDA REPUBLICA
9:36:01AM DE CUBA TAMPA, FLORIDA IN YBOR CITY NATIONAL HISTORIC
9:36:05AM LANDMARK DISTRICT BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR
9:36:08AM NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:36:11AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
9:36:13AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:36:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:36:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:36:18AM OF ANY OPPOSED?
9:36:20AM OKAY.
9:36:20AM >> CLERK: SECOND READING JUNE 6TH, 9:30 A.M.
9:36:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:36:30AM COUNCILMAN, IF YOU COULD TAKE PUBLIC SAFETY AND OF COURSE
9:36:33AM EXCLUDE ITEM NUMBER 7.
9:36:34AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 5 AND 6 EXCLUDING
9:36:38AM NUMBER 7 FOR DISCUSSION.
9:36:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:36:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:36:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:36:45AM OKAY.
9:36:46AM COUNCILMAN CITRO, IF YOU COULD TAKE PARKS, RECREATION AND
9:36:49AM CULTURAL.
9:36:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 8 THROUGH 12 BE MOVED.
9:36:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECONDED BY
9:37:00AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:37:02AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:37:03AM OPPOSED?
9:37:04AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:37:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE 13, 14,
9:37:13AM 15, 17, 19, AND 20, EXCLUDING 16 AND 18.
9:37:23AM I WENT TO THE WRONG -- I WENT ALL THE WAY TO FINANCE
9:37:24AM COMMITTEE.
9:37:25AM I APOLOGIZE.
9:37:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, MY PAPER WAS PUT IN WRONG.
9:37:28AM THAT WAS MY BAD.
9:37:35AM >> MOVE 13 THROUGH 17 EXCLUDING 16.
9:37:43AM >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:37:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:37:49AM OPPOSED?
9:37:50AM PUBLIC WORKS.
9:37:51AM ITEMS 13 THROUGH 17.
9:37:54AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:37:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 13, 14, 15, EXCLUDE 16 --
9:38:04AM >>THE CLERK: YOU ALREADY DID THAT.
9:38:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, I'M SORRY.
9:38:08AM FINANCE.
9:38:09AM IF YOU COULD TAKE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 20.
9:38:16AM >> >>ORLANDO GUDES: 18 THROUGH 20.
9:38:17AM >> SECOND.
9:38:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:38:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:38:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:38:22AM OKAY.
9:38:27AM BUILDING, ZONING, PRESERVATION, ITEMS 21 THROUGH 32.
9:38:34AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:38:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 32 EXCLUDING 2930.
9:38:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:38:47AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:38:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:38:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:38:50AM OKAY.
9:38:51AM NEXT WE MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
9:38:53AM CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONTINUE.
9:38:56AM WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 25.
9:38:58AM WHO IS HERE FOR THAT?
9:39:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE MISSED 33 UNDER
9:39:06AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:39:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, I'M SORRY.
9:39:10AM OKAY, I'M SORRY.
9:39:12AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:39:12AM ITEM NUMBER 33.
9:39:14AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:39:16AM IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT.
9:39:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM.
9:39:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:39:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:39:29AM OKAY.
9:39:29AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 34.
9:39:35AM QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS.
9:39:37AM OKAY, IT'S NOT 10:30 YET.
9:39:39AM WE WILL MOVE TO ITEMS BEING MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
9:39:42AM AND WE HAVE 7, 16, 18, 29, 30.
9:39:46AM IS ANYONE HERE ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS FROM STAFF?
9:39:49AM IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD ONE AT A TIME.
9:39:52AM AND STATE THE ITEM THAT YOU ARE ON.
9:39:54AM >> I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 7.
9:40:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING.
9:40:18AM YOUR NAME?
9:40:19AM >> LIEUTENANT PASSMORE, TAMPA PD.
9:40:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS ITEM IS $600,000 CHANGE ITEM FOR A
9:40:31AM NEW CAMERA TO HANG ON THE BOTTOM OF THE HELICOPTER.
9:40:37AM CORRECT?
9:40:38AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
9:40:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
9:40:40AM AND I APOLOGIZE.
9:40:41AM TYPICALLY, GIVEN MORE TIME, WE JUST GOT SWORN IN YESTERDAY,
9:40:44AM IF GIVEN MORE TIME I WOULD HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN
9:40:47AM ADVANCE, AND MAYBE ALLEVIATED THE NEED FOR YOU TO COME.
9:40:50AM SO I WILL TRY TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
9:40:52AM I USUALLY DO.
9:40:55AM YOU GUYS AWARDED THE ITEM BUT YOU THREW OUT THE FIRST
9:41:00AM BIDDER.
9:41:01AM SO WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THAT, SIR?
9:41:04AM >> OKAY.
9:41:04AM SO ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS IN THE BID WAS THAT THE FACILITY
9:41:08AM FOR THE INSTALLATION BE WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF
9:41:13AM TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR
9:41:15AM AVIATION UNIT.
9:41:16AM THERE WAS A BIDDER, I BELIEVE THEY WERE $3,000 CHEAPER BUT
9:41:20AM THEY ARE 120 NAUTICAL MILES FROM THE AIRPORT ON THE EAST
9:41:24AM COAST OF FLORIDA, MELBOURNE.
9:41:25AM SO THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT WE HAVE TO FLY OUR HELICOPTER
9:41:29AM TO THAT FACILITY.
9:41:31AM OUR HELICOPTERS COST ABOUT $650 AN HOUR OPERATING.
9:41:34AM WE WOULD HAVE TO FLY A HELICOPTER THERE TO DROP OFF, AND
9:41:38AM HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER HELICOPTER TO BRING THE CREW BACK, AND
9:41:40AM THEN GO BACK A SECOND TIME TO PICK IT UP.
9:41:43AM THE BIGGER ISSUE, THOUGH, THAT WE SEE WITH THESE MAJOR
9:41:46AM PROJECTS WITH THE HELICOPTERS, THERE ARE MINOR ISSUES THAT
9:41:51AM WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
9:41:53AM SO IF WE KEEP HAVING TO FERRY THE HELICOPTER BACK AND FORTH
9:41:56AM TO THE EAST COAST IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY COST THE CITY A
9:41:59AM LOT MORE MONEY IN FUEL AND MAINTENANCE EXPENSES BECAUSE
9:42:03AM MAINTENANCE EVERYTHING IS BASED ON HOURS.
9:42:05AM AND THE WORST THING IN ALL THESE HOURS TRANSPORTING
9:42:09AM HELICOPTERS TO THE EAST COAST THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE NOT
9:42:11AM GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN THE
9:42:14AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:42:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN I READ THAT, IT MADE PERFECT SENSE.
9:42:19AM WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE
9:42:22AM HERE THAT'S NOT IN THE PAPERWORK, IT APPEARED THAT THE
9:42:25AM SUCCESSFUL PROPOSED SUCCESSFUL BIDDER -- AND I COME FROM A
9:42:31AM PURCHASING BACKGROUND, BUT THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER SHOWS A
9:42:36AM BROOKSVILLE ADDRESS.
9:42:37AM AND I GOOGLED IT AS WE ALL DO, BROOKSVILLE.
9:42:40AM MY DAD USED TO LIVE UP THERE.
9:42:43AM IT SHOWED IT SPECIFICALLY AT THAT ADDRESS, SHOWED IT
9:42:47AM APPROXIMATELY 42 MILES, REGULAR MILES.
9:42:50AM I TRANSLATED THAT INTO NAUTICAL MILES IT CAME UP TO 36
9:42:55AM NAUTICAL MILES.
9:42:56AM MR. SHELBY ALWAYS ADVISES US TO AVOID LITIGATION.
9:42:59AM IT CONCERNS ME THAT EVEN THOUGH IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO BE
9:43:02AM WITHIN 30 MILES, THAT BROOKSVILLE FACILITY IS ACTUALLY 36
9:43:08AM NAUTICAL MILES.
9:43:09AM AM I MISSING SOMETHING THERE?
9:43:11AM >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS -- WAS THAT A STRAIGHT LINE DISTANCE?
9:43:18AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WAS A GOOGLE DISTANCE.
9:43:19AM >> SO TAKING ROADWAYS?
9:43:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, NO.
9:43:23AM I THINK IT -- I JUST SAID, WHAT IS THE DISTANCE?
9:43:25AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:43:26AM BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
9:43:27AM MAYBE GOOGLE TAKES YOU ON THE HIGHWAY.
9:43:30AM BUT I DON'T KNOW.
9:43:30AM TO ME, BROOKSVILLE IS NOT REALLY 36 MILES.
9:43:34AM BUT IT MIGHT BE CLOSE.
9:43:35AM >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR ADDRESS WAS SPECIFICALLY THE
9:43:39AM AIRPORT, OR IF THAT WAS THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE FACILITY.
9:43:43AM I KNOW IT WAS LOOKED AT WITH PURCHASING.
9:43:47AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH BECAUSE
9:43:49AM IT'S $600,000 AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE SUED BY THE LOWEST
9:43:53AM BIDDER.
9:43:55AM MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN DEFER IT TWO WEEKS FOR YOU ALL TO COME
9:43:58AM BACK, MR. SPEARMAN JOINING US IN A SECOND.
9:44:03AM >> HE COULD PROBABLY ANSWER BECAUSE THERE WAS A PROTEST.
9:44:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE OTHER QUESTION IS SORT OF A BIGGER
9:44:11AM PICTURE QUESTION AND MAYBE TO EITHER ONE OF YOU.
9:44:13AM IN REGARD TO -- IN THE CITY, SOMETIMES WE LEASE THINGS BIG
9:44:18AM TICKET ITEMS.
9:44:19AM AS A MATTER OF FACT LATER IN THE AGENDA WE TALK ABOUT
9:44:21AM LEASING A STREET SWEEPER.
9:44:23AM INSTEAD OF BUYING ONE.
9:44:24AM AND MY WIFE IS THE TECH PERSON IN OUR HOUSEHOLD BUT SHE
9:44:29AM ACTUALLY HAS SOME SPECIALTY AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
9:44:33AM CAMERAS IN OUR HOUSE THAT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS LATER ARE
9:44:37AM OBSOLETE BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY.
9:44:39AM AND THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.
9:44:42AM AND THEN AS THINGS BECOME A SLEET.
9:44:45AM BUT IN THIS CASE WE ARE ACTUALLY BUYING THE $600,000, VERY,
9:44:49AM VERY HIGH-TECH CAMERA AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT COULD WE LOOK
9:44:54AM INTO LEASING?
9:44:55AM >> RIGHT, AND I THINK WE WERE ACTUALLY SPENDING CITY MONEY
9:44:59AM FOR THIS, THAT WOULD BE A VERY APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
9:45:01AM HOWEVER, THIS IS GRANT FUNDED THROUGH URBAN AREAS SECURITY
9:45:06AM INITIATIVE WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT USES FEDERAL DEPARTMENT
9:45:09AM HOME SECURITY MONEY SO THERE'S NO EXPENDITURE ON THE PART OF
9:45:13AM THE CITY FOR THIS.
9:45:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO THEY ALLOW LEASE PAYMENTS?
9:45:18AM >> THEY DO NOT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
9:45:21AM WE NEVER LEASED ANYTHING FROM UIZI BECAUSE THE FEDERAL
9:45:26AM GOVERNMENT GIVES US THE MONEY SO WE CAN OWN THE ASSET AT THE
9:45:29AM END OF THE LEASE.
9:45:30AM WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THAT ASSET BACK.
9:45:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT ONE.
9:45:35AM OKAY.
9:45:36AM MR. SPEARMAN?
9:45:37AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING TO ADDRESS YOUR
9:45:40AM CONCERN, THAT IS UNLIKELY.
9:45:45AM THE LOW BIDDER DID FILE AN APPEAL.
9:45:48AM THE CITY DID RESPOND TO THAT -- I'M SORRY, PROTEST.
9:45:52AM AND THE CITY DID RESPOND AND DID NOT APPEAL.
9:45:59AM SO --
9:46:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU STILL WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
9:46:02AM GREG.
9:46:03AM THAT'S 30 NAUTICAL MILES.
9:46:05AM I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A TAPE MEASURE ON IF NOBODY HASN'T.
9:46:08AM SOMETIMES THE BIDDER JUST SAYS, I COMPLY WITH THAT.
9:46:11AM AND THEN WE SORT OF GLANCE AT IT AN ASSUME IT'S OKAY.
9:46:14AM >> RIGHT.
9:46:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MAKE
9:46:17AM SURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THING AND WE CAN SAVE
9:46:19AM $3,000, WHATEVER, JUST LOOKING AT IT FOR TWO WEEKS.
9:46:25AM SO UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER URGENCY THAT I AM NOT AWARE OF.
9:46:28AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:46:31AM WE TOOK THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US IN THE SPECIFICATIONS
9:46:35AM THAT WERE PUBLISHED.
9:46:36AM WE DIDN'T PHYSICALLY CHECKED THE MILES OURSELVES.
9:46:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT SUGGESTING, BUT I THINK WE CAN
9:46:45AM PUT A MEASURE ON IT AND JUST MAKE SURE.
9:46:51AM AND I REQUEST IT TO COME BACK.
9:46:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND LET ME ASK A QUESTION TO THE OFFICER IF I
9:46:58AM MAY.
9:46:59AM THE TWO WEEKS REQUESTED, WILL THAT IN ANY WAY EVENING DANGER
9:47:03AM ANY OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONS OR IN ANY WAY CAUSE ANY
9:47:07AM STRUCTURAL INCONVENIENCE TO THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT?
9:47:12AM TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT CALL TO INQUIRE ON THAT?
9:47:14AM >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DELAYING IT BY TWO WEEKS WOULD BE AN
9:47:18AM ISSUE.
9:47:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:47:20AM >> IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, $600,000.
9:47:25AM WHAT IS THE SYSTEM SUPPOSED TO DO, NUMBER ONE?
9:47:29AM AND THE BIDDER THAT LOST THE BID, ARE THE SPECS DIFFERENT
9:47:35AM FROM WHAT THEY HAD, FROM WHAT THE OTHER COMPANY IS BIDDING
9:47:39AM ON, ARE COMPARABLE?
9:47:41AM >> SO IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME PRODUCT.
9:47:43AM THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE DISTANCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO
9:47:45AM HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR INSTALLATION AND REPAIRS.
9:47:49AM THAT WAS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO BIDDERS.
9:47:51AM SO THAT $3 THAT YOU DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE, IT'S GOING TO
9:47:56AM BE RECOUPED WITH OUR EXPENSES TO HAVE TO FLY THE HELICOPTERS
9:47:59AM BACK AND FORTH.
9:48:01AM TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, OUR CURRENT GYROCAMERA SYSTEMS, THEY
9:48:05AM WERE PURCHASED IN 1999, SO THEY HAVE 1999 STANDARD
9:48:09AM DEFINITION VIDEO.
9:48:11AM THESE ARE STATE OF THE ART HIGH DEFINITION CAMERAS THAT HAVE
9:48:16AM HIGH DEFINITION ENERGY AS WELL.
9:48:18AM SO OUR HELICOPTERS CAN ACTUALLY BE HIGHER, WHICH WILL
9:48:22AM ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE NOISE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA
9:48:25AM THAT THE HELICOPTER IS FLYING OVER.
9:48:26AM IN ADDITION THE CAMERAS ARE MUCH BETTER SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY
9:48:29AM SEE WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY IS HOLDING A FIREARM IN THEIR
9:48:32AM HAND.
9:48:33AM OUR CURRENT CAMERAS CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE STANDARD
9:48:35AM DEFINITION.
9:48:36AM THEY COULD READ A TAG, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A SPECIFIC VEHICLE
9:48:40AM THAT'S BEEN USED IN A ROBBERY.
9:48:43AM AT THIS POINT WE CAN LOW AND SEE BASED ON COLOR, VEHICLE
9:48:46AM TYPE, MAYBE THAT'S THE VEHICLE.
9:48:48AM WITH THE NEW CAMERA SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN AND SEE
9:48:52AM THE TAG.
9:48:53AM IT'S A MUCH MORE ADVANCED SYSTEM, MUCH MORE MODERN.
9:48:55AM UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO THE AGE OF OUR CURRENT SYSTEMS, WE ARE
9:48:57AM NOT ABLE TO UPGRADE THEM TO HIGH DEFINITION.
9:49:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: WILL THIS CAUSE A TWO WEEK DELAY?
9:49:09AM >> YES, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A DELAY.
9:49:11AM OBVIOUSLY, THE LETTER HAS BEEN SIGNED, AND WE CAN BEGIN
9:49:15AM INSTALLATION AS SOON AS COUNCIL GIVES THE APPROVAL.
9:49:20AM I JUST CHECKED ON AIR NAB WHICH IS THE SYSTEM WE USE,
9:49:26AM STRAIGHT LINE DISTANCES BETWEEN AIRPORTS AND IT IS 30 MILES
9:49:29AM BETWEEN BROOKSVILLE TO TAMPA BAY REGIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL.
9:49:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ISN'T THAT AIRPORT NEAR U.S. 19?
9:49:41AM >> I HAVE NEVER FLOWN UP THERE.
9:49:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM HAVEN'T FLOWN UP THERE EITHER.
9:49:46AM STATE OF FLORIDA SHOWS A PLACE CALLED BRETNA.
9:49:52AM I GO THERE ONCE IN A WHILE AND I PASS BY, AND THAT AIRPORT
9:49:54AM RIGHT TO THE RIGHT THERE.
9:49:55AM NOT IN THE CITY OF BROOKSVILLE AT ALL.
9:49:57AM >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS NEXT TO -- I AM LOOKING AT THE
9:50:00AM AERONAUTICAL CHARTS.
9:50:02AM IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT ROADWAY IT IS BUT IT IS BETWEEN A
9:50:05AM COUPLE OF MAJOR ROADWAYS.
9:50:06AM I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MAYBE THE SUNCOAST.
9:50:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ARE YOU LOOKING AT A
9:50:19AM MONETARY SAVINGS IN THIS TWO-WEEK DELAY?
9:50:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I AM LOOKING AT DOING THINGS BY THE
9:50:27AM BOOK BECAUSE THE BID, A $600 THAT YOU BID, SUPPOSED TO BE 30
9:50:31AM NAUTICAL MILES.
9:50:32AM IF THE LIEUTENANT WANTS TO SPECIFICALLY AND EXPRESSLY SAY
9:50:36AM THAT HE CAN TESTIFY THAT IT'S 30 NAUTICAL MILES OR LESS FROM
9:50:41AM THERE TO THERE, THEN I COULD ACCEPT THAT.
9:50:44AM BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE NO POSITION TO SAY THAT BASED
9:50:46AM UPON YOUR QUICK GLANCE AT IT.
9:50:50AM AND I JUST THINK -- AND I AM GLAD OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS HERE,
9:50:55AM BECAUSE THESE ARE IMPORTANT MATTERS.
9:50:58AM DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A $600 THAT YOU ITEM OR, YOU KNOW,
9:51:02AM THE PUBLIC RELIES ON US TO PUT OUT THESE BID AND GO BY THE
9:51:05AM BOOK IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY SAY.
9:51:07AM WE THREW OUT A BIDDER BASED UPON NOT BEING WITHIN 30
9:51:12AM NAUTICAL MILES, AND THAT'S FINE.
9:51:13AM I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY FLY ACROSS THE STATE.
9:51:16AM ULTIMATELY, IT'S SAY IT 35 NAUTICAL MILES TO BROOKSVILLE.
9:51:20AM STAFF WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO WAIVE
9:51:23AM THAT BID CONDITION AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD SAY, OKAY, WE
9:51:28AM WAIVE THE BID CONDITION AND MOVE ON AND APPROVE IT.
9:51:31AM BUT LIKE I SAY, THE CITY AND OUR PEOPLE AND ALL THE VENDORS,
9:51:36AM THEY RELY ON US TO DO THINGS ACCORDING TO THE BID SPECS.
9:51:40AM >>SAL TERRITO: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:51:42AM WE CHECKED WITH THE NAVIGATIONAL SYSTEM.
9:51:45AM SO THE NAVIGATION SYSTEM IS SAYING 30 NAUTICAL MILES.
9:51:49AM THAT'S CORRECT.
9:51:49AM WHEN YOU GO TO GOOGLE YOU ARE GOING TO GET STREET MILES.
9:51:53AM IT'S A LITTLE LONGER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TURNS.
9:52:00AM (CELL PHONE RINGS)
9:52:02AM I APOLOGIZE.
9:52:07AM GOOGLE SAYS 32 MILES.
9:52:08AM SO A NAVIGATIONAL SOURCE OF INFORMATION, 30 NAUTICAL MILES
9:52:13AM AS OPPOSED TO 36 STREET MILES.
9:52:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS COMFORTABLE WITH
9:52:18AM IT.
9:52:19AM >> I AM.
9:52:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IF THE LIEUTENANT WANTS TO CONFIRM
9:52:22AM THAT, I AM COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
9:52:23AM BUT I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:52:26AM I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE.
9:52:28AM AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO MY PURCHASING AND I HAVE HAD MANY
9:52:34AM CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
9:52:36AM WHEN I READ THROUGH THE SPECS, IT CLEARLY LOOKED LIKE THE
9:52:39AM DEPARTMENT WAS SPECCING A SPECIFIC CAMERA BECAUSE THERE'S 13
9:52:44AM OR 20 LINE ITEMS THAT ARE VERY DETAILED TO -- IT LOOKS LIKE,
9:52:50AM OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE SPECS FOR THAT CAMERA AND PUT IT
9:52:53AM INTO OUR BID.
9:52:55AM I'M NOT NECESSARILY CRITICIZING YOU OR THE DEPARTMENT ON
9:52:59AM DOING THAT.
9:53:00AM I'M JUST WONDERING -- AND MAYBE YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS,
9:53:03AM GREG -- IS THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE?
9:53:07AM IF IT IS, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SOLE SOURCE IT AND SAY I WANT
9:53:15AM XYZ CAMERA AND THEN LET THESE BIDDERS SPECIFICALLY GO
9:53:19AM THROUGH XYZ CAMERA, AND THEN YOU COULD TELL US WHY THAT XYZ
9:53:26AM CAMERA IS THE BEST ONE AND WHY WE ARE NOT SOLE SOURCING IT?
9:53:30AM GREG, THAT'S SORT OF A BIG PICTURE QUESTION.
9:53:33AM >> GREG SPEARMAN.
9:53:34AM WE ALLOW OUR USERS, IN THIS CASE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO
9:53:40AM REALLY TELL US IN TERMS OF WHAT IS BEST.
9:53:43AM NOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE DID SPEC A PARTICULAR
9:53:47AM CAMERA BUT WE KNEW THERE WAS COMPETITION.
9:53:50AM SO RATHER THAN OPENING IT UP AND HAVE LOTS OF THINGS THAT
9:53:54AM WILL COME IN AND WILL NOT DISQUALIFY OTHER COMPANIES, IT'S
9:53:59AM PROBABLY MORE APPLICABLE TO NARROW IT CLOSELY IN TERMS OF
9:54:04AM WHAT WE WANT, AND I THINK EXCEPT THE LOW BIDDER DID NOT --
9:54:13AM >> THANKS.
9:54:14AM >> ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES, THIS WAS GOING TO BE PURCHASED
9:54:17AM WITH IT -- AND THE SAME CAMERA ARISING IT FROM AS WELL.
9:54:25AM SO UIZIs ARE REGIONAL.
9:54:29AM THERE IS A POSSIBILITY IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MAJOR
9:54:31AM INCIDENT OR SOMETHING, WE COULD BORROW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE
9:54:34AM CAMERAS AND INSTALL THEM ON ONE OF OUR HELICOPTERS.
9:54:37AM SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE COUNTY,
9:54:39AM AND THEY NEED TO USE OUR CAMERA FOR SOMETHING, THEY ARE
9:54:43AM INTERCHANGEABLE.
9:54:44AM SO HAVING A DIFFERENT CAMERA WILL NEGATE THAT AS WELL.
9:54:50AM >>CHAIRMAN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
9:54:52AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:54:53AM COUNCILMAN?
9:54:55AM NEXT WE ARE ONGE ONTO ITEM NUMBER 16.
9:54:57AM I'M SORRY?
9:55:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THAT ITEM --
9:55:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO MOTION WAS MADE.
9:55:05AM >> MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 7.
9:55:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BE DINGFELDER.
9:55:13AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:55:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:55:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:55:17AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:55:19AM NEXT WE ARE ONTO ITEM 16.
9:55:21AM MR. ERIC WEISS IS HERE.
9:55:23AM >> ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
9:55:26AM YOU HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
9:55:29AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. WEISS.
9:55:31AM MY QUESTIONS RELATE TO ITEM 16 AND ST. LOUIS.
9:55:37AM AND AGAIN, MR. SPEARMAN, I AM GLAD YOU ARE STILL HERE.
9:55:40AM ITEM 16 IS A $31,000 CHANGE BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY THIS WAS
9:55:44AM A 320,000 CONTRACT FOR CONCRETE WORK.
9:55:49AM AND AT ONE OF THE PUMPING STATIONS.
9:55:52AM CONCRETE REPAIRS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
9:55:55AM IT APPEARS ON ITEM 16 THAT THERE WAS SOME REFERENCE TO SBE,
9:56:03AM MINORITY BUSINESS OR SMALL BUSINESS, THAT THERE WAS NO
9:56:06AM PARTICIPATION ON ITEM 16.
9:56:08AM AND ITEM 18 TO THE CITY'S COMPLIMENTING THE CITY, IT
9:56:13AM APPEARED THAT THERE WAS SOME SHELTERED MARKET, SOLICITATION.
9:56:18AM I DON'T THINK ITEM 18 IS ACTUALLY YOURS.
9:56:22AM SO GENTLEMEN, ON ITEM 16, WHY WOULD WE HAVE BEEN $320,000 OF
9:56:28AM CONCRETE WORK WHICH SEEMS TO ME, JUST WITH MY LIMITED
9:56:33AM KNOWLEDGE, COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET A
9:56:36AM SUBCONTRACTOR IN FROM THE COMMUNITY, PERHAPS A MEN NORTH
9:56:42AM BUSINESS COMMUNITY, TO ASSIST WITH THAT TYPE OF WORK?
9:56:45AM >> ON THIS CONTRACT, THIS IS A HIGHLY SPECIALIZED CONCRETE
9:56:49AM WORK AND SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED FROM THE
9:56:53AM MANUFACTURER BECAUSE OF THE HIGHLY CORROSIVE ATMOSPHERE OF
9:56:57AM THE PUMPING STATION.
9:56:58AM SO WE GOT FOUR BIDDERS.
9:57:00AM AND THEY HAD TO HAVE THAT CERTIFICATION TO BE QUALIFIED.
9:57:04AM SO BEFORE WHEN DOWN AT THE OFFICE THERE WERE UNFORTUNATELY
9:57:10AM NO MBEs THAT HAD THAT CERTIFICATION.
9:57:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD HAVE INCLUDED A
9:57:16AM SUBCONTRACT COMPONENT TO THAT TO TRY TO ACHIEVE SOME OF OUR
9:57:20AM GOALS AND EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE SITTING
9:57:23AM HERE AS A NEW BODY, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE GOALS AS
9:57:27AM WELL.
9:57:27AM >> TYPICALLY WE DO, BUT IT WAS SO HIGHLY SPECIALIZED THAT
9:57:32AM THAT FIRM DID IT ALL.
9:57:33AM YOU KNOW, THEY GO IN THERE.
9:57:35AM THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO CHIP AWAY THE CONCRETE.
9:57:38AM EVALUATE THE DEPTH OF IT.
9:57:40AM AND THEN DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THIS ENGINEERED CODING PRODUCT
9:57:44AM YOU PUT ON.
9:57:45AM AND THERE WERE NO IDENTIFIED MBEs TO DO THAT, OR THAT
9:57:51AM WORK.
9:57:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
9:57:57AM I'LL KEEP ASKING THAT QUESTION AS WE PROCEED ON THESE TYPE
9:58:00AM OF ITEMS THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
9:58:02AM SO LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE
9:58:07AM SUBCONTRACTORS, YOU KNOW, ON PICKING UP JUST THE PERIPHERY,
9:58:14AM NOT THE TECHNICAL.
9:58:15AM YOU EXPLAINED THAT VERY WELL, THERE'S A HIGHLY SPECIALIZED
9:58:18AM COMPONENT THE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO RISK OR JEOPARDIZE, OR
9:58:21AM WE CAN'T RISK OR JEOPARDIZE.
9:58:23AM BUT IF THERE'S PERIPHERAL STUFF GOING ON,.
9:58:27AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
9:58:29AM >>CHAIRMAN: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COME UP ON THIS ITEM?
9:58:31AM OKAY.
9:58:31AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
9:58:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
9:58:36AM WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, I MOVE ITEM 16.
9:58:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:58:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:58:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:58:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:58:46AM THANK YOU,ER IS.
9:58:48AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 18 FOR MR. SPEARMAN.
9:58:53AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: PARKS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON
9:59:01AM ITEM NUMBER 18.
9:59:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:59:05AM GREG, THIS IS THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT EARLIER QUESTION.
9:59:09AM IT APPEARS ON ITEM 18 WE ARE LOOKING TO GO OUT AND WE HAVE
9:59:13AM LOOKED TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WITH SB, I DON'T KNOW IF
9:59:19AM IT'S MB, BUT SHELTERED MARKET, AND CAN YOU TELL US HOW
9:59:26AM SUCCESSFUL THAT IS TO GO OUT TO THE OPEN MARKET?
9:59:28AM >> THIS SPECIFICATION DID HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE
9:59:32AM POTENTIAL BIDDERS.
9:59:33AM SO THIS WAS SHELTER AT THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE MINORITY
9:59:36AM BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OFFICE.
9:59:38AM AND OF COURSE THAT INCLUDES THE FIVE-COUNTY AREA THAT WE
9:59:41AM LOOK AT IN, AND WE DID RECEIVE FIVE BID, AND LISTED FOR,
9:59:54AM THREE ONE-YEAR RENEWALS, AND ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE.
10:00:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
10:00:09AM >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ABOUT THE
10:00:14AM EARLIER BUSINESSES, AS WE WERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, OVER
10:00:17AM AND OVER AGAIN, THERE WERE COMMUNITIES THAT SAID THAT THEY
10:00:20AM FELT THAT THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED.
10:00:21AM AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB, BUT ALSO TO
10:00:27AM COMMUNICATE WHAT WE ARE DOING WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN
10:00:31AM WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITIES.
10:00:32AM THANK YOU.
10:00:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND FOR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY HAVE AN
10:00:37AM ANTICIPATE THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
10:00:43AM YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THIS MORE CERTAINLY THAN I DO.
10:00:46AM FOR OUR NEW COME UP MEMBERS -- AND MR. SPEARMAN, IF YOU
10:00:53AM COULD, SIR, ONE MORE QUESTION.
10:01:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, SMALL
10:01:05AM BUSINESSES.
10:01:06AM ARE THERE ANY WORKSHOPS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY KNOW
10:01:09AM THE PROCESS?
10:01:10AM I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES THAT WE DON'T KNOW TO
10:01:13AM KNOW.
10:01:14AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEHOW THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT GO OUT
10:01:18AM INTO THE COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
10:01:23AM I HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE
10:01:27AM AND KNOW HOW TO OBTAIN IT.
10:01:29AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: WE ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN OUTREACH TO
10:01:35AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:01:36AM AND THAT'S REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE AUSPICES OF GREGORY HART,
10:01:40AM MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
10:01:42AM WE DO GIVE AN ORIENTATION TO THE NEWLY CERTIFIED FIRMS THAT
10:01:46AM COME TO THE CITY.
10:01:47AM BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND
10:01:52AM MAY BE A DISCUSSION THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE WITH THE
10:01:54AM DEVELOPMENT, ADDITIONAL OUTREACH INITIATIVES.
10:01:58AM BUT I DO KNOW AND I WILL RELAY THE INFORMATION BACK TO HIM
10:02:06AM OF COUNCIL'S CONCERN AT THIS TIME.
10:02:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEARMAN.
10:02:11AM NEXT WE MOVE -- YES, SIR?
10:02:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE IF ITEM.
10:02:15AM BUT I DID WANT TO SECOND WHAT MR. GUDES SAYING, WE DID HEAR
10:02:24AM IN THE CAMPAIGN PROCESS THAT THE CITY COULD BE MORE
10:02:27AM PROACTIVE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP TRAIN PEOPLE AND GET
10:02:34AM THEM INVOLVED.
10:02:34AM AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
10:02:38AM WE CAN'T JUST WAIT HERE AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO GET IT.
10:02:45AM SO MR. SPEARMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE ITEM 18.
10:02:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:02:51AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:02:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:02:54AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:02:55AM OKAY.
10:02:55AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 29.
10:02:57AM MR. SNELLING IS HERE.
10:02:59AM >>THOM SNELLING: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
10:03:09AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:03:09AM I'M HEAR FOR ITEMS 29 AND 30.
10:03:11AM AND EXPLAIN ANY QUESTIONS AND DETAIL YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:03:21AM BUT ITEM 29 IS OUR AGREEMENT WITH BUILD IT TOGETHER TAMPA
10:03:26AM BAY.
10:03:26AM WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERS WITH THEM FOR SEVERAL YEARS, OVER 20,
10:03:29AM 25 HOUSES IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:03:32AM WHEN HURRICANE IRMA CAME THROUGH, WE AMENDED HIS CONTRACT SO
10:03:36AM HE COULD DO SPECIFIC HOME REPAIR TO THE SPECIFIC RECOVERY IN
10:03:40AM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOW WE ARE BACK TO CONTINUE WITH THE
10:03:43AM PROGRAM.
10:03:51AM DO YOU WANT TO COME UP?
10:03:52AM >> VANESSA McCLEARY, HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR
10:03:59AM THE CITY, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS.
10:04:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:04:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING.
10:04:12AM AND THANKS FOR THE WORK YOU DO.
10:04:13AM ON ITEMS 29 AND 30, AND MR. SNELLING JUST ANSWERED PART OF
10:04:16AM MY MOTION ON 29 IN REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR
10:04:21AM CONSTRUCTING 20 TO 25 HOMES A YEAR.
10:04:24AM IS THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH US AND WORKING WITH OUR GRANTS AND
10:04:28AM THAT SORT OF THING?
10:04:30AM >> YES.
10:04:31AM IN 2014, THE WE BUILD TOGETHER TAMPA BAY TO BUILD HOMES IN
10:04:36AM THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA, AND HE'S CONTINUING TO DO THAT,
10:04:40AM AND PROVIDED A MILLION DOLLAR AND 16 LOTS AT THAT TIME.
10:04:47AM AS WE A QUEER ADDITIONAL LOTS, ALSO PICKED UP ADDITIONAL
10:04:51AM LOTS AS WE TRY TO REVITALIZE THAT AREA.
10:04:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A PARTICULAR PRICE POINT OR
10:04:58AM PRICE RANGE THAT THESE HOMES END UP COMING OUT?
10:05:01AM AND WHO IS QUALIFIED?
10:05:04AM I SAW ON ONE OF THESE ITEMS A REFERENCE TO FIRST RESPONDERS
10:05:08AM AND TEACHERS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
10:05:10AM >> AND THAT IS ITEM 30, THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM.
10:05:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON ITEM 29 NOW.
10:05:21AM >> ON ITEM THE HOUSES START AT 140,000.
10:05:24AM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED BUILDING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN WE
10:05:36AM FIRST STARTED BUILDING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE COULDN'T GET
10:05:39AM THE CLOSE TO VALUE.
10:05:44AM SO WE STARTED SELLING THE HOME AT ABOUT 80,000.
10:05:48AM AND RECENTLY MOVED IT UP.
10:05:50AM THE COST OF 150,000 TO BUILD THE HOME SO WE WERE ONLY ABLE
10:05:54AM TO SELL IT FOR 80,000 BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A DEPRESSED
10:05:58AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:05:58AM SO WORKING IN THAT AREA WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING UP THE
10:06:00AM HOME VALUES TO WHERE THEY REALLY SHOULD BE, WHICH IS AT
10:06:03AM MARKET, SELLING BETWEEN 140 AND 180,000 IN THAT
10:06:08AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:06:08AM >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONUNDRUM, 80 VERSUS 140.
10:06:21AM I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE MONEY PER SE
10:06:28AM >> WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE MONEY AND WE DON'T WANT TO DEVALUE,
10:06:30AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME 80,000 IS A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE THAN
10:06:35AM 120 OR 140.
10:06:36AM >> SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS SELL HOMES FOR WHAT THEY ARE
10:06:40AM VALUED AT.
10:06:41AM AND IF YOU DEVALUE THEM, SELLING THEM AT THE 80, IT REALLY
10:06:45AM HURTS THE NEIGHBORED.
10:06:46AM SELLING THEM AT 140 AND THEN GIVING THEM DOWN PAYMENT
10:06:48AM ASSISTANCE TO BRING IT DOWN TO WHAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD IS HOW
10:06:52AM WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD.
10:06:53AM BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
10:06:56AM BE NEIGHBORHOODS OF CHOICE.
10:06:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE?
10:07:01AM >> WHAT WE DO IS LAYER THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE SO
10:07:05AM THROUGH THE CITY PROVIDE THE MAP PROGRAM WHICH CURRENTLY IS
10:07:08AM PROVIDING 15,000.
10:07:14AM AND PROVIDES ANOTHER 125,000 AND THEN REBUILD TOGETHER TAMPA
10:07:17AM BAY, ANOTHER 15,000.
10:07:19AM SO THE 140 NOW COMES DOWN TO ABOUT 100,000.
10:07:26AM SO INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE HOME PRICE WE SHOULD LOW AT THE
10:07:30AM MORTGAGE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS GETTING.
10:07:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:07:34AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:07:35AM IN THE BIG PICTURE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE VARIOUS
10:07:39AM PROGRAMS THAT YOU ARE WORKING WITH, DIFFERENT FEDERAL AND
10:07:42AM STATE MONEYS AS WELL AS OUR LOCAL MONEYS, DO WE HAVE A GOAL
10:07:47AM IN TERMS OF EACH YEAR WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD X NUMBER OF
10:07:51AM HOMES?
10:07:53AM LAST YEAR, I WOULD SAY 2018 OR 2019, THROUGH ALL THESE
10:07:57AM PROGRAMS ADDING THEM UP, AND WHAT IS THAT GOAL NOW?
10:08:03AM >> WELL, WE HAVE -- WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD CAPACITY.
10:08:06AM BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN OUR ISSUE IN TERMS OF MEETING OUR GOALS.
10:08:10AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON IS
10:08:14AM HOME OWNERSHIP BECAUSE WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE RENTAL
10:08:19AM ASSISTANCE.
10:08:21AM BUT IF WE ARE PROVIDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE AT 1500 A MONTH
10:08:24AM THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
10:08:25AM IT'S BETTER TO GIVE A PERSON DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, MOVE
10:08:28AM THEM INTO A HOME, WHERE THEY CAN STABILIZE THEIR HOUSING
10:08:32AM COSTS, AS WELL AS STABILIZING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:08:35AM SO OUR REAL GOAL HAS BEEN TO STABILIZE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH
10:08:38AM HOME OWNERSHIP.
10:08:39AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF GOALS, AND WE HAVE BEEN --
10:08:46AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT QUANTITY OF
10:08:52AM HOMES.
10:08:52AM >> I WOULD LOVE TO BUILD 100 HOMES A YEAR IF NOT MORE.
10:08:55AM I BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOT HAD THE
10:08:59AM CAPACITY SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVE TO WORKING WITH FOR PROFIT
10:09:02AM BUILDERS AS WELL AS NONPROFIT BUILDERS AND HELPING TO
10:09:05AM INCREASE THEIR CAPACITY.
10:09:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO OUR GOAL YOUR HOPE WAS SORT OF 100 AND
10:09:12AM WE ARE NOT THERE.
10:09:14AM I SAID OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A
10:09:18AM GOAL 1,000 HOMES A YEAR.
10:09:20AM >> I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.
10:09:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE CONVERSATION ON.
10:09:24AM THAT THANK YOU.
10:09:24AM >> WHAT PART OF SULPHUR SPRINGS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
10:09:31AM BECAUSE I DRIVE THERE EVERY DAY I.DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE
10:09:34AM BUILDING THESE HOMES IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:09:36AM >> THEY ARE.
10:09:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN YOU SAY 140,000 AND I LOOK AT THE
10:09:44AM PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT AREA, THAT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY.
10:09:48AM I WILL BE FRANK WITH YOU.
10:09:51AM THAT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY.
10:09:54AM 140,000 FOR THAT COMMUNITY, THAT'S STILL -- I MEAN, THAT'S A
10:09:58AM LOT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
10:09:59AM THAT COMMUNITY IS STILL VERY, VERY, VERY BREATHE.
10:10:03AM I CAN TELL THIS COUNCIL UNTIL WE AS A CITY GOING IN AND
10:10:10AM START CLEANING UP THE STREETS AND THE TREES, YOU ARE JUST
10:10:12AM BUILDING A HOME NO STATIC PLACE, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
10:10:16AM UNSAFE CONDITIONS.
10:10:17AM >> WE HAVE A LOT OF CLEAN-UP, HUNDREDS OF TONS OF TRASH OUT
10:10:24AM OF THAT COMMUNITY.
10:10:26AM THAT COMMUNITY DID NOT BECOME BLIGHTED OVERNIGHT SO WE ARE
10:10:29AM NOT GOING TO REVITALIZE IT OVERNIGHT.
10:10:31AM BUT WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY.
10:10:39AM WE HAVE ADDITIONAL BUILDERS WHO HAVE GONE IN AND HELPED,
10:10:44AM ADDITIONAL CENTIMETER HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:10:46AM I STARTED TO SEE AREAS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TURNING AROUND.
10:10:49AM AND WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE ADDRESSES OF WHERE THOSE
10:10:52AM HOMES WERE BUILT.
10:10:53AM WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE ARTICLES AND NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS
10:10:57AM REGARDING THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
10:10:59AM WE HAVE CHANGED THE SCHOOLS.
10:11:01AM IT USED TO BE K-3 AND NOW IT'S K-8 AND THAT WAS PART OF THAT
10:11:06AM REVITALIZATION EFFORT.
10:11:08AM WE HAVE GOTTEN A NUMBER OF NONPROFITS IN THAT AREA, WORKING
10:11:11AM WITH THE FAMILIES, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO GET RESIDENTS TO
10:11:20AM MOVE FROM RENTERS TO HOMEOWNERS AS WELL AS MOVING FAMILIES
10:11:23AM IN WITH DIFFERENT INCOMES.
10:11:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M WITH YOU WITH THE IDEA OF GETTING AWAY
10:11:29AM FROM RENTING AND HAVE OWNERSHIP.
10:11:31AM I STARTED MY CAREER AT 7-ELEVEN, SULPHUR SPRINGS ELEMENTARY,
10:11:37AM AND THEY HAD THINGS AT THAT SCHOOL, STILL AFRAID OF SCHOOL
10:11:43AM BECAUSE THE AREA IS TRANSIT.
10:11:46AM I THINK HOME OWNERSHIP WILL STOP SOME OF.
10:11:49AM THAT BUT I STILL CONTEND, I KNOW THE MARKET, AND HOW THE
10:11:53AM MARKET IS HIGH RIGHT NOW, BUT WE STILL VERY MUCH TO FIND
10:11:56AM SOME OTHER WAYS TO GET PEOPLE QUALIFIED OF EQUIPPED AND INTO
10:12:00AM HOMES.
10:12:01AM THAT AREA STILL HAS A LOT OF ISSUES.
10:12:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:12:05AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:12:06AM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:12:08AM I THINK IF I HEAR SOMETHING FROM THIS COUNCIL TODAY IT'S
10:12:11AM THAT WE WANT TO INVEST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON ISSUES LIKE
10:12:14AM DIVERSITY AND ISSUES LIKE HOUSING, ET CETERA.
10:12:19AM I SECOND COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO SULPHUR
10:12:23AM SPRINGS.
10:12:24AM I THINK THE THAT'S AN AREA THAT IS PRIMED NOT FOR
10:12:27AM REDEVELOPMENT.
10:12:28AM THESE A TERM THAT SOMETIMES HAS NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON LOW
10:12:31AM INCOME COMMUNITIES.
10:12:31AM BUT ON REINVESTMENT.
10:12:33AM THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
10:12:34AM THAT'S AN AREA WITH A LOT OF POTENTIAL WITH COMMUNITIES AND
10:12:37AM NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT THERE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:12:39AM AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THAT REGARD.
10:12:44AM THANK YOU.
10:12:44AM >> THIS ALSO IS AN AREA THAT I AM VERY INTERESTED IN AND I
10:12:50AM LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU AND TALKING ABOUT IT.
10:12:53AM AND THE CHAMBER HAS A COMMITTEE SET UP TO WORK ON THIS, TOO.
10:12:57AM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING WITH THIS.
10:13:01AM >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 30?
10:13:31AM 124 WHEN YOU START WITH BE 140,000 AND TAKE OFF THE DOWN
10:13:34AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU SAID IT CAME
10:13:37AM DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY MUCH WHAT?
10:13:39AM >> 100.
10:13:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 100.
10:13:41AM SO THE MORTGAGE, PITI FOR THE 100 WOULD BE ABOUT 600 A
10:13:48AM MONTH.
10:13:48AM >> 600 A MONTH.
10:13:51AM >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ANALYSIS IF THAT'S YOUR GOAL, IS
10:13:54AM TO GET SO THEY CAN TAKE THAT $1500 RENT PAYMENT, WE CAN GET
10:13:58AM THEM QUALIFIED, THEY HAVE TO TAKE CLASSES, I ASSUME, IN
10:14:03AM TERMS OF THEIR LIFE SKILLS, AND THEIR HOME MANAGEMENT SKILLS
10:14:07AM AND THAT SORT OF THING.
10:14:08AM I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IN HABITAT.
10:14:13AM SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM SO THEY CAN PAY THOSE BILLS.
10:14:15AM AND THEN WE GET THEM IN THERE, MAYBE 600, $700 A MONTH
10:14:19AM INSTEAD OF 1500.
10:14:20AM >> AND THEY ARE SAVING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
10:14:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND CREATE THE STABILITY AND THE EQUITY
10:14:26AM AND THE WEALTH AND REBUILD THE MIDDLE CLASS.
10:14:28AM >> RIGHT.
10:14:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL BE GLAD, WITHOUT ANY OTHER
10:14:32AM QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE ITEMS 29 AND
10:14:37AM 30.
10:14:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:14:38AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:14:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:14:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:14:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:14:45AM OKAY.
10:14:47AM NEXT WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 36.
10:14:50AM AND I THINK COUNCILMAN DID SOMETHING VERY WISE WITH REGARDS
10:14:53AM TO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS SOMETIMES COUNCIL MEMBERS
10:14:57AM WON'T PULL.
10:15:00AM THAT I KNOW TODAY VERY BUSY WITH FIRST DAY OF COUNCIL, AND
10:15:03AM THAT'S WHY A LOT OF ITEMS WERE PULLED.
10:15:05AM BUT OFTEN THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH THROUGH A
10:15:08AM PHONE CALL.
10:15:09AM THAT'S HOW I USUALLY DO IT.
10:15:11AM BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN'T SO WE HAVE TO PULL THEM.
10:15:14AM SO NEXT WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 36 WITH MR. SNELLING,
10:15:17AM SIR.
10:15:40AM >>THOM SNELLING: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
10:15:43AM AT THE RISK OF REPEATING MACE AGAIN, I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE
10:15:51AM AN NATE TRICKLET TO GO OVER SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE ARE
10:15:59AM WORKING ON.
10:16:00AM WHAT I HAPPENEDED OUT TO YOU WAS OUR MOST RECENT COUNT.
10:16:08AM MANY COMMUNITIES DO A POINT IN TIME COUNT HE HAVE OTHER
10:16:11AM YEAR.
10:16:11AM BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET A MUCH MORE ACCURATE BRAKEDOWN OF
10:16:15AM WHAT WE DID AND OUR HOMELESSNESS IMPACT AND WHAT THE REAL
10:16:20AM NUMBERS ARE, WE GOT PERMISSION,
10:16:27AM GENERALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND FIRST STARTED IN 2014,
10:16:33AM THROUGH SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF
10:16:35AM THAT SHE CAN TOUCH ON NO SECOND, GENERALLY WE HAVE GONE DOWN
10:16:38AM OVER THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD ABOUT 15% WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
10:16:42AM NUMBER.
10:16:43AM WE HAVE REACHED WHAT IS CALLED FUNCTIONAL ZERO, WHICH MEANS
10:16:49AM THE HOMELESSNESS, EXPERIENCE, LOOK AT A VERY SHORT AND
10:16:54AM INFREQUENT EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS.
10:17:00AM YOU ARE NOT EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUTSIDE AND SEE
10:17:03AM ABSOLUTELY NOBODY ON THE STREETS, BECAUSE THAT'S AN
10:17:08AM IMPOSSIBILITY OF WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:17:10AM WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CALLED FUNCTION OF ZERO.
10:17:14AM BY KEEPING HOMELESSNESS BRIEF, SHORT LIVED, AND IF SOMEBODY
10:17:18AM IS HOMELESS THEY EXPERIENCE A ONE-TIME AND THEY UTILIZE A
10:17:21AM LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE PROVIDERS
10:17:25AM THAT HELP KEEP THEM IN A HOUSE.
10:17:30AM ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I TALKED TO, SOONER OR LATER
10:17:37AM YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT COMMUNITY CAFE IF YOU HAVEN'T
10:17:39AM ALREADY.
10:17:39AM SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALONG WITH ANTOINETTE AND MYSELF, AND
10:17:47AM OFFICER MCDONALD, TPD, SOME FOLKS. SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT,
10:17:50AM TOM LANCE, WHO IS THE CHAIR FOR FEEDING TAMPA BAY, THEY HAVE
10:17:56AM TAKEN OVER THE OPERATION OF THAT.
10:17:57AM WE ALSO -- ALSO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:18:02AM BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS TRINITY CAFE PREVIOUSLY WAS
10:18:08AM JUST -- THEY WOULD OFFER PEOPLE LUNCHS FROM TIME A TO TIME
10:18:16AM B.
10:18:21AM WHAT WE HAVE GOT THEM TO AGREE TO DO THROUGH THE WORK THAT
10:18:24AM ANTOINETTE HAS DONE IS TO ALLOW US TO COME IN THERE ONCE A
10:18:28AM MONTH, TWICE A MONTH, KIND OF START DOING INTERVIEWS WITH
10:18:31AM THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING THE FACILITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:18:36AM HAVE FOOD, AND INTERVIEW THEM AND TRY TO GET THEM INTO WHAT
10:18:41AM IS CALLED OUR UNITY SYSTEM, WHICH THAT STARTS TO IDENTIFY
10:18:46AM WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHAT OTHER KIND OF SERVICES CAN HELP
10:18:55AM OUT OF HOMELESSNESS OR ON THE POVERTY LEVEL.
10:18:57AM BUT MANY FOLKS AT THE TRINITY CAFE ARE NOT NECESSARILY
10:19:00AM HOMELESS BUT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION OF HOMELESS
10:19:03AM PEOPLE THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT TRINITY CAFE DOES.
10:19:06AM BUT NOW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND DO THESE ENTER
10:19:12AM VOWS AND EVALUATE WHAT KIND OF SERVICES TO GET TO THE STATUS
10:19:21AM THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP BECAUSE
10:19:24AM PREVIOUSLY, THE TAMPA HOMELESS INITIATIVE BOARD, HE IS VERY
10:19:33AM MUCH IN TUNED TO THE SITUATION THAT'S GOING ON, AND TO ALLOW
10:19:40AM US TO GET IN AND TRY TO GET THE SERVICES THERE.
10:19:42AM THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO TRINITY CAV
10:19:45AM FEE BECAUSE IT IS A TRANSPORTATION, TRIP GENERATOR, BUT IT'S
10:19:51AM AN ATTRACTION FOR PEOPLE THAT COME IN THERE, PROVIDE OTHER
10:19:55AM TYPES OF SERVICES, MAYBE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERIENCES AND
10:19:59AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:20:17AM THE VARIOUS KIND OF SCREENINGS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE, NOT
10:20:21AM THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OFEN PUT AND ACCESS TO, BUT WE ARE VERY
10:20:25AM HAPPY AND EXCITED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH TRINITY
10:20:28AM CAFE, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE FROM THE VM
10:20:35AM YBOR AREA, THEY ARE ON THE SAME PANEL, SO WE GET PRETTY
10:20:41AM IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK TO WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING.
10:20:44AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:21:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:21:38AM THE TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE WAS DESIGNATED BY
10:21:41AM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
10:21:46AM U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, HUD, TO BE
10:21:50AM THE LEAD ENTITY FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN ON HOMELESSNESS, ALSO
10:21:55AM DESIGNATED BY STATE GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO BE
10:21:57AM THE LEAD ENTITY FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN ON HOMELESSNESS.
10:22:01AM ON A MONTHLY BASIS WE MEET WITH OVER 70 PROVIDERS WITHIN OUR
10:22:05AM COMMUNITY ON HOMELESS ISSUES.
10:22:09AM TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE FOCUSED ON SIX
10:22:14AM STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO MAKE HOMELESSNESS -- IN OUR
10:22:19AM COMMUNITY AND THOSE ARE IN LINE WITH THE NATIONAL -- PRIOR
10:22:27AM TO HOMELESS, UNACCOMPANIED FAMILIES, AND ALSO WHAT WE ADDED
10:22:34AM TO AN EPP CREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS AND VOUCHERS
10:22:39AM AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS.
10:22:49AM TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS, IT'S COMPLICATED.
10:22:55AM OUR ORGANIZATION MAINTAINS THE COLLABORATION, DEVELOP
10:23:00AM INNOVATIVE IDEAS, WE PARTNER WITH OTHER AGENCIES, AND
10:23:05AM RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY FOR SERVICES FOR THOSE
10:23:10AM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
10:23:11AM I HAVE GIVEN YOU A LIST OF SOME OF THE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE.
10:23:14AM THIS LIST IS -- SOME OF THE PIECES ARE PREVENTION AND
10:23:23AM DIVERSION, AND HOUSING PEOPLE, THE NAME METHODOLOGY.
10:23:30AM WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON SHORT TERM AND LONG-TERM HOUSING
10:23:33AM VOUCHERS.
10:23:34AM WE ALSO HAVE SET ASIDE FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS,
10:23:38AM AND WE PARTNER WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ON THOSE ISSUES.
10:23:41AM AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON INCREASING FUNDING, PRIVATE AND
10:23:45AM PUBLIC FUNDING.
10:24:00AM HOMES FOR AT LEAST 25 HOMELESS VETERANS, DOING THAT SINCE
10:24:05AM 2014.
10:24:07AM LAST YEAR WE DID THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CLINIC WHERE THEY
10:24:21AM HAD RECORDS EXPUNGED, AND A COMMUNITY WIDE, AFFORDABLE
10:24:26AM SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
10:24:28AM WHAT WE EXPERIENCED THOSE THAT HAVE HOUSING VOUCHERS, THE
10:24:33AM HOUSING VOUCHERS PROVIDED AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL
10:24:37AM ABOUT $800 IN HOUSING IN TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH FOR SO WE
10:24:46AM INCENTIVIZE THE LANDLORD PROPERTY OWNER TO THOSE WHO HAVE
10:24:51AM RENTAL HISTORY, OR CRIMINAL BACKGROUND ISSUES.
10:24:54AM SO THE LAST I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU, THOM ALREADY WENT OVER
10:24:59AM THE TIMELINE WITH YOU.
10:25:02AM THE RESULTS, WE PARTNERED WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
10:25:10AM THEY DID ALL OF THE LEG WORK, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION
10:25:10AM RAISED THE FUNDS TO WAIVE THE $75 FEE.
10:25:17AM 1800 PEOPLE APPLIED FOR THE CLINIC.
10:25:22AM 282 APPLICATIONS WERE APPROVED.
10:25:25AM 143 PEOPLE WERE PROCESSED.
10:25:28AM THERE WAS A SAVINGS OF $350,000 BASED ON THE PRO BONO WORK
10:25:37AM AND THE WAIVERS OF FEES THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE.
10:25:41AM THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
10:25:42AM I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU ALL ONE ON ONE TO DISCUSS
10:25:46AM MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION.
10:25:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:25:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
10:25:54AM A PERSON WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH HOMELESSNESS WHO DEALT WITH
10:26:00AM ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS, AND THERE ARE
10:26:04AM DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMELESSNESS.
10:26:06AM A LOT OF TIMES, SOME OF MY FOLKS THAT ARE DOWN WITH MENTAL
10:26:08AM ILLNESS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, THEY WANT TO BE HOMELESS.
10:26:17AM >> LET ME DISAGREE WITH YOU. SO NO ONE EVER WANTS TO BE
10:26:19AM HOMELESS.
10:26:20AM PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO ACCEPT THE SERVICES
10:26:23AM AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST A SEMANTIC.
10:26:27AM BUT PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE -- PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE -- YOU KNOW,
10:26:32AM DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE LIKE A 3-YEAR-OLD, SO
10:26:35AM THEY REALLY CAN'T SUBMIT TO SOME OF THE SERVICE, AND IT
10:26:38AM TAKES YEARS AND YEARS TO BUILD UP THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT MAY
10:26:40AM HAVE BRIDGES THAT HAVE BEEN BURNED FOR THEM TRYING TO ACCESS
10:26:46AM SERVICES.
10:26:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME GET TO MY POINT. AGAIN, I KNOW THE
10:26:53AM DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE I DEALT WITH THEM
10:26:57AM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
10:26:58AM I WENT TO THE TAMPA BAY FEED AMERICA COALITION THEY HAD A
10:27:02AM COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND I THINK IT WAS A
10:27:06AM GOOD ROUND TABLE.
10:27:07AM BUT I MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS AT THAT TIME THAT I WILL MAKE TO
10:27:09AM YOU AS WELL.
10:27:11AM WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES.
10:27:14AM WE UNDERSTAND A LOT OF FAMILIES ARE HOMELESS.
10:27:17AM WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PAST INDISCRETIONS, AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO
10:27:24AM HAVE A TWO-PARENT HOME.
10:27:25AM A LOT OF TIMES ONE OF THOSE PARENTS HAS A PAST INDISCRETION,
10:27:29AM AND THAT KILLS THE WHOLE PROCESS.
10:27:33AM WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET AWAY FROM THAT PROCESS,
10:27:36AM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HURTING A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES, FROM
10:27:39AM GETTING A PLACE TO STAY.
10:27:41AM WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT AN AREA IN THIS CITY TO COLLABORATE
10:27:45AM WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, TO FIND AN AREA THAT WE CAN
10:27:49AM HAVE A PLACE THAT I CALL A CENTER THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO
10:27:56AM THAT'S AWAY FROM COMMUNITIES.
10:27:56AM A LOT OF TIMES OUR COMMUNITIES ARE UPSET.
10:28:00AM THE TRINITY CAFE, I HAVE DEALT WITH THEM.
10:28:02AM I KNOW THEIR ISSUES.
10:28:03AM SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO ARE SOMETIMES HAVING EMOTIONAL
10:28:06AM PROBLEMS, AND PEOPLE GET UPSET BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND
10:28:14AM WHY THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THEORY COMMUNITY.
10:28:25AM WHAT I CALL ATTRACTING PLACES, THOSE VETERANS, AND GIVE THEM
10:28:30AM THE SERVICES THEY NEED.
10:28:31AM SO I LIKE THOSE EFFORTS.
10:28:32AM FOR ME, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET PAST IN CHRIS
10:28:41AM DESIGNATIONS, THAT'S THE THING I FIND IS HOMELESS PEOPLE.
10:29:02AM NO ONE WHO GOT THE SERVICE HAD A CONVICTION.
10:29:05AM BUT WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE FOR 10, 15 YEARS.
10:29:15AM THE OTHER REASON THAT WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IS TO
10:29:21AM INCENTIVIZE LANDLORDS THAT TAKE THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU TALKED
10:29:24AM ABOUT.
10:29:25AM SO WE LOCKED THEM INTO A 10 YEAR OR 15 YEAR COMMITMENT ON
10:29:31AM THOSE.
10:29:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:29:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO TOUCH ON COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT, THERE
10:29:45AM ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHOUT A HOME.
10:29:47AM DUE TO MENTAL ILLNESS, BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE
10:29:50AM MEDICATION THAT THEY NEED.
10:29:53AM DOES YOUR PROGRAM HELP PROVIDE OR HELP ASSIST THOSE PEOPLE
10:29:56AM THAT DO NOT HAVE THE MEDICATION OR CANNOT AFFORD THE
10:29:59AM MEDICATION TO BALANCE THEIR PERSONALITIES OUT?
10:30:03AM >> WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HEALTH
10:30:06AM DEPARTMENT, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HEALTH PLAN. TWO YEARS
10:30:12AM AGO WE DID NOT HAVE WHAT WE CALL DEDICATED ASSESSMENT THAT
10:30:20AM HELPS PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ISSUES OR ANY TYPE OF SOCIAL
10:30:25AM SECURITY ELIGIBILITY DISABILITIES AND WE WENT FROM ZERO TO
10:30:32AM SEVEN.
10:30:34AM BUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS REALLY STEPPED UP WITH PROVIDING
10:30:38AM ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
10:30:40AM AS YOU MAY KNOW, JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THEY WE HAVE
10:30:46AM BEEN HAVING A DISCUSSION FOR HOUSE HOW CAN WE INCREASE
10:30:52AM SERVICES TO THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
10:30:55AM WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE FLORIDA BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TO
10:30:59AM INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SERVICES, AND REALLOCATE FUND, THAT
10:31:05AM THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM WITH MORE HOUSING VOUCHERS.
10:31:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW DO YOU GET --
10:31:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW DO YOU GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE
10:31:12AM PEOPLE THAT NEED IT THE MOST?
10:31:14AM DO YOU HAVE A LIAISON THAT GOES OUT INTO THE FIELD?
10:31:17AM >> WE DO, PRIMARILY WITH PROCEEDING THE STRATEGIC OVERSIGHT
10:31:20AM AND THE FUNDING, NOT NECESSARILY THE DIRECT SERVICES.
10:31:23AM WE WORKED WITH ALL OF THE --
10:31:28AM >>THOM SNELLING: AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE
10:31:30AM EXCITED ABOUT OUR ACCESS TO TRINITY CAFE.
10:31:32AM WHEN WE GO THERE, WHY IS THIS PERSON HERE?
10:31:37AM MEDICATION RELATED?
10:31:38AM IS IT SOME KIND OF EMOTIONAL PROBLEM THAT THEY ARE HAVING TO
10:31:43AM PREVENT THEM FROM MOVING FORWARD TO TRY TO HELP THEMSELVES?
10:31:46AM THAT'S WHY WE ARE VERY HAPPY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GET IN
10:31:49AM THERE BECAUSE YOU START TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE AND THINGS THAT
10:31:51AM THEY COME TOGETHER ON A SMALLER GROUP.
10:31:53AM SO IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.
10:32:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PLEASE CONTACT MY AIDE?
10:32:03AM >> AND ANOTHER THING THAT WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT,
10:32:05AM THOSE THAT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT ON THEIR
10:32:08AM OWN, WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET FOOD ON THEIR OWN, TO PROVIDE
10:32:15AM SIMPLE HOUSING, THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND HAVING
10:32:21AM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY.
10:32:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS?
10:32:29AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:32:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:32:33AM THIS PAST YEAR, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, AS PUBLIC
10:32:37AM DEFENDER, SINCE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER DOES WORK WITH MS. POPE
10:32:44AM ON MENTAL HEALTH COURT AS WELL AS VETERANS COURT, AND AS MR.
10:32:48AM GUDES HAS PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA WORKING WITH
10:32:52AM THESE FOLKS, IT WAS VERY EYE OPENING, AND STARTS TO CROSS
10:33:00AM OVER, THE VETERANS HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND AS
10:33:07AM MR. CHAIRMAN WORKS ON THESE AS WELL.
10:33:10AM BUT THAT WAS VERY EYE OPENING.
10:33:14AM WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT ON YOUR CHART UNDERSTOOD SUB
10:33:17AM POPULATION DATA, AND IT TALKS ABOUT -- BREAKS DOWN IN TERMS
10:33:21AM OF NUMBERS, MENTAL ILLNESS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER,
10:33:28AM HIV/AIDS, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND I DO REMEMBER GOING OUT
10:33:31AM AND SPEAKING, TAKING INFORMATION MANY YEARS AGO, I THINK
10:33:35AM IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING YOU SHOULD INVITE ALL OF US TO, AND
10:33:42AM AN EXERCISE TALKING TO FOLKS ONE ON ONE, AND GET A BETTER
10:33:46AM FEEL FOR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
10:33:48AM BUT THOSE ITEMS, ARE THOSE SELF REPORTED?
10:33:52AM SO REALLY MUCH MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE LOW BECAUSE IF YOU
10:33:56AM TAKE THINGS AND SAY, OKAY, HOW IS YOUR MENTAL HEALTH, YOU
10:34:00AM KNOW, THAT MATE NOT WANT TO SELF-REPORT THAT.
10:34:04AM >>
10:34:14AM >>
10:34:29AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THOSE ARE ALL SELF-REPORTED SO.
10:34:35AM AS MR. CITRO INDICATED, I HOPE YOU WILL COME BRIEF ALL OF US
10:34:41AM NEWBIES INDIVIDUALLY.
10:34:44AM WE HAVE GOT A LOT TO LEARN.
10:34:45AM >> I WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOUR OFFICE TODAY.
10:34:48AM 69 AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU.
10:34:49AM I ESPECIALLY SEE HERE THE DECREASE IN VETERANS.
10:34:53AM I KNOW YOU YOURSELF ARE A VETERAN.
10:34:54AM IT'S VERY CLOSE TO YOUR HEART.
10:34:56AM I THINK THAT'S A WOMAN THING THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
10:34:58AM I THINK SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKED ABOUT IS THE
10:35:05AM PUNITIVE MEASURES WE HAVE MADE AGAINST PEOPLE THAT GO
10:35:09AM OUTSIDE OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
10:35:11AM I THINK IT CAUGHT UP TO SOCIETY, AND TO TAKE STEPS WHETHER
10:35:19AM THE STEPS THAT THE STATE TOOK OR ATTEMPTED TO TAKE DEPENDING
10:35:23AM ON WHAT HAPPENS IN TALLAHASSEE IF YOU ASK ME WITH AMENDMENT
10:35:26AM 4, AND I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER TALKED ABOUT US
10:35:34AM DOING THE HOMELESS COUNT.
10:35:35AM I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT IF MY SCHEDULE PERMITS.
10:35:38AM I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
10:35:39AM IT'S PROBABLY GOING OVER MY PAY GRADE IN TELLING THIS STORY
10:35:42AM BUT I REMEMBER READING, WHEN PRESIDENT JOHNSON, I SAID IT
10:35:47AM WAS GEORGE READING ASKED THE PRESIDENT WHY IS HE DOING THIS
10:35:51AM WAR ON POVERTY, AND POOR PEOPLE DON'T VOTE?
10:35:54AM AND PRESIDENT JOHNSON SAID, I DON'T CARE IF I GET A SINGLE
10:35:57AM VOTE OUT OF THIS SO LONG AS BY THE END OF OUR PROGRAM THE
10:36:00AM PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY KNOW THAT POOR PEOPLE EXIST AND LIVE
10:36:04AM AMONG THEM.
10:36:05AM AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES.
10:36:06AM IT REALLY, ON A LOCAL LEVEL, BUILDS ON THAT GREAT NATIONAL
10:36:09AM ASPIRATION.
10:36:14AM THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
10:36:17AM NEXT WE MOVE TO OUR 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:36:23AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO TO MOVE THE PUBLIC
10:36:27AM HEARING.
10:36:27AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:36:28AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:36:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:36:31AM OKAY. THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:36:33AM LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 34.
10:36:49AM PEOPLE NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
10:36:50AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
10:36:57AM >>REBECCA KERT: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:36:59AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 34.
10:37:00AM ITEM 34 IS AN APPEAL OF A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION TO
10:37:04AM DENY A SPECIAL USE REQUEST.
10:37:06AM FOR A SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS A REQUEST FOR USE THAT IS
10:37:10AM ALLOWED IN A SPECIFIC ZONING DIRECT BUT IT HAS TO MEET
10:37:13AM ADDITIONAL CRITERIA.
10:37:14AM SOME OF THOSE COME DIRECTLY TO YOU AS A SPECIAL USE 2.
10:37:18AM YOU WILL TYPICALLY SEE THOSE AS ALCOHOL PERMITS.
10:37:21AM SOME OF THOSE GO DIRECTLY TO STAFF.
10:37:24AM WHEN IT GOES DIRECTLY TO STAFF FOR REVIEW, THERE'S AN SU-1.
10:37:29AM THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
10:37:30AM STAFF REVIEWS THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST BY THE SPECIFIC
10:37:32AM CRITERIA.
10:37:33AM IF ANY OF THOSE ARE NOT MET, STAFF CAN DO NO FURTHER
10:37:37AM ANALYSIS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WAIVERS SHOULD BE GRANTED.
10:37:40AM THEY HAVE TO DENY IT.
10:37:41AM AND THEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL WHERE CITY COUNCIL DOES
10:37:44AM HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT WAIVERS TO THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
10:37:49AM SO THAT'S THE POSITION YOU ARE IN TODAY.
10:37:50AM YOU HAVE A SPECIAL USE REQUEST THAT DID NOT MEET THE VERY
10:37:53AM SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN THE CODE, AND SO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO
10:37:57AM HAVE IT HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A WAIVER TO THOSE
10:38:00AM CRITERIA. THAT'S COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE.
10:38:03AM IT'S NOT A VARIANCE.
10:38:04AM IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A HARDSHIP.
10:38:05AM WHAT THE WAIVER CRITERIA -- THERE ARE SPECIFIC WAVER
10:38:11AM CRITERIA THAT YOU APPLY IN DETERMINING WHETHER TO GRANT THE
10:38:14AM WAIVER.
10:38:15AM AND IT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
10:38:19AM THERE ARE THE GENERAL STANDARDS.
10:38:20AM AND THEY ARE ON PAGE 2 AND 3 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT.
10:38:26AM SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT TAMPA CITY
10:38:30AM COUNCIL FEELS IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GRANT THE WAIVER, THOSE
10:38:33AM ARE THE CRITERIA YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
10:38:34AM STAFF WILL COME UP IN A MINUTE AND EXPLAIN TO YOU THE
10:38:36AM UNDERLYING REQUEST IN GENERAL, IF IT'S FOR A CONGREGATE
10:38:40AM LIVING FACILITY, WHICH AGAIN IS AN ALLOWED USE AND THERE WAS
10:38:44AM ONLY ONE CRITERIA THAT WAS NOT MET.
10:38:46AM THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE FOCUS IS BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY.
10:38:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:CHAIRMAN: AND IF I MAY.
10:38:54AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:38:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:39:00AM >>REBECCA KERT: I AM ALSO GOING TO PASS OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS
10:39:02AM FOR YOU, ONE TO AFFIRM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR PROCEDURE
10:39:06AM AND ONE TO REVERSE IT.
10:39:07AM WE DO THIS BECAUSE IT COULD BE A LITTLE CONFUSING.
10:39:10AM IF YOU DENY IT YOU ARE ACTUALLY AFFIRM.
10:39:12AM SO THIS IS YOUR SAMPLE MOTIONS.
10:39:14AM AT THE END OF IT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO STATE ANY
10:39:16AM ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS THAT YOU FEEL ARE RELEVANT TO YOUR
10:39:19AM DECISION.
10:39:19AM BUT THIS CONTAINS -- ANYTIME CITY COUNCIL GRANTS OR DENSE A
10:39:27AM DEVELOPMENT ORDER UNDERSTOOD STATE STATUTE, YOU HAVE TO
10:39:30AM STATE THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
10:39:33AM AND SO THEREFORE THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR SAMPLE MOTION.
10:39:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] WE.
10:39:56AM HEARD ANY EVIDENCE YET.
10:39:57AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFIC ISSUES ARE OTHER THAN WHAT I
10:39:59AM HAVE READ SO FAR.
10:40:01AM BUT IN A VERY GENERAL SENSE, AS AN ATTORNEY, I AM AWARE,
10:40:07AM ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN SOME LITIGATION SURROUNDING SPECIAL
10:40:12AM USES, CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE, SO I AM AWARE THAT LITIGATION IS
10:40:24AM OUT THERE.
10:40:25AM OFTEN IT'S IN FEDERAL COURT.
10:40:26AM YOU KNOW ME.
10:40:27AM I AM NOT AFRAID OF LITIGATION.
10:40:29AM WHEN THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION, WE NEED TO MAKE A
10:40:32AM DECISION BASED ON LAW AND THE EVIDENCE.
10:40:34AM BUT IN A VERY GENERAL SENSE, IS THERE ANY CAUTION THAT YOU
10:40:43AM WOULD GIVE COUNCIL AS RELATED TO HOW THE FEDERAL LAW MIGHT
10:40:52AM IMPACT THAT IN TERMS OF THAT USE BEING NO NEIGHBORHOOD?
10:40:57AM A LOT OF TIMES NEIGHBORHOOD GET SCARED ABOUT VARIOUS TYPES
10:41:00AM OF GROUP HOMES.
10:41:02AM YOU KNOW, THE LITIGATION I HAD IN PINELLAS IS TOTALLY
10:41:06AM UNRELATED BUT INVOLVED LIKE ALCOHOLIC DRUG REHAB.
10:41:10AM ULTIMATELY THE CITY, THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T WANT IT BUT THE
10:41:14AM FEDERAL LAW PROTECTED THEM. ANYWAY, YOU GET MY QUESTION.
10:41:20AM ANY BROAD CAUTIONARY TIPS?
10:41:23AM >>REBECCA KERT: I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE QUESTION IS BUT I
10:41:25AM WILL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
10:41:28AM THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CONGREGATE LEAVING FACILITY.
10:41:31AM AND STAFF CAN GIVE YOU MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IS
10:41:34AM REQUEST REQUESTED.
10:41:35AM THAT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGER ADA PROTECTION BUT IT
10:41:39AM COULD.
10:41:40AM AND ADA PROTECTION IS AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
10:41:44AM WE DO HAVE IN OUR CODE NOW, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN ADOPTED
10:41:49AM WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IS SPECIFIC PROCEEDINGS
10:41:52AM THAT IF SOMEBODY IS REQUESTING A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION
10:41:55AM FOR DISABILITY, THAT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS.
10:41:59AM WE FEEL THAT WAS APPROPRIATE, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN
10:42:02AM LEGAL STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE BOTH DEMONSTRATED AND
10:42:06AM EVALUATED BY THE CITY WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR
10:42:08AM NOT YOU NEED TO MAKE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION.
10:42:11AM THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
10:42:17AM THAT'S VERY CLEAR, AGAIN A LEGAL STANDARD NEEDS TO BE MET.
10:42:20AM THAT IS NOT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.
10:42:22AM THAT BEING SAID, I CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO
10:42:32AM DENY ANY REQUEST BASED ON A DISABILITY EITHER REAL OR A
10:42:35AM PERCEIVED DISABILITY.
10:42:37AM SO IN THE EVENT THAT ANY EVIDENCE COMES OUT THAT PEOPLE ARE
10:42:40AM CONCERNED THAT SOMEBODY HAS A DISABILITY, THAT IS NOT A
10:42:43AM LEGAL BASIS.
10:42:47AM THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE NOT IN THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION
10:42:50AM PROCESS.
10:42:51AM THAT IS AN AVENUE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE APPLICANT IN THIS
10:42:53AM CASE, BUT THEY CHOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL USE
10:42:57AM CRITERIA. SO AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT BASING YOUR DENIAL UPON
10:43:01AM EITHER A DISABILITY OR A PERCEIVED DEBT, THEN I WOULD JUST
10:43:05AM ASK YOU TO APPLY THE GENERAL STANDARDS TO CONSIDER.
10:43:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS HEADED.
10:43:12AM THANK YOU.
10:43:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:43:15AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:43:19AM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:43:21AM WE ARE NO POSITION FOR REVIEW FOR SU-1, 1905, 402 WEST SITKA
10:43:37AM STREET, AND THE APPLICANT IS MONTEGUDO.
10:43:55AM AS REBECCA WAS MENTIONING THERE WAS CRITERIA, AND THE
10:43:58AM SEPARATION IS 1200 FEET.
10:44:04AM ADMINISTRATIVELY, STAFF HAS TO DENY TAMPA REQUEST AND THE
10:44:06AM APPLICANT COMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON APPEAL OF THE
10:44:09AM DECISION.
10:44:09AM IN THIS CASE, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
10:44:19AM AT THE CORNER OF OLA AND SITKA.
10:44:24AM HERE IS ANOTHER.
10:44:27AM THE ONE THAT'S CAUSING THE DISTANCE SEPARATION THAT HAS TO
10:44:30AM BE MET IS THAT IT IS LICENSED BY HEALTH CARE ADMINISTRATION,
10:44:37AM WHICH IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LICENSING.
10:44:40AM THIS WILL GIVE YOU PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
10:44:42AM THIS IS THE PROPERTY FROM LOOKING AT IT FROM SITKA STREET.
10:44:50AM THAT'S THE CORNER WITH OLA.
10:44:56AM THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF THE STREET AT OLA AND SITKA
10:45:00AM LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL.
10:45:03AM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:45:04AM AND THEN THERE MAY BE OTHER PROPERTY ADJACENT WHICH IS A
10:45:14AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
10:45:15AM THE BASIS FOR THE DENIAL FROM THAT IS THE FACT THAT IT DID
10:45:21AM NOT MEET THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN THE CODE.
10:45:23AM BASED ON THAT STAFF DENIED.
10:45:29AM ANY QUESTIONS?
10:45:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE ISSUE AND THE REASON WE ARE HERE
10:45:32AM AT ALL IS THE DISTANCE SEPARATION?
10:45:38AM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
10:45:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT DOESN'T MEET THE 1200 FEET.
10:45:43AM >>ERIC COTTON: 1200 FEET.
10:45:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAW A REFERENCE OF AN OBJECTION FROM
10:45:47AM TRANSPORTATION.
10:45:48AM >> THAT'S RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE SITE PLAN.
10:45:51AM THAT STUFF WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE PERMITTING
10:45:53AM PROCESS.
10:45:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WOULDN'T NEED --
10:45:56AM >>ERIC COTTON: THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:45:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL?
10:46:00AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:46:01AM NEXT.
10:46:02AM I GUESS WE GO TO THE APPELLANTS, APPLICANT.
10:46:08AM >> JANE GRAHAM. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH SMOLKER, BARTLETT,
10:46:49AM LOEB, HINDS AND THOMPSON.
10:46:50AM I REPRESENT HAPPY ORCHIDS HOME SERVICES AND LISANDA
10:47:05AM MONTEGUDO.
10:47:05AM TODAY THIS IS A PETITIONER FOR REVIEW. WE DO HAVE SOME
10:47:05AM EXHIBITS AS I HAND THEM TO THE CITY CLERK. AS THE ASSISTANT
10:47:16AM CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED, THERE IS CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT YOU
10:47:18AM HAVE TO LOOK TO TODAY IN YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS WAIVER.
10:47:29AM WHY APPROVE HAPPY ORCHIDS' SPECIAL USE FOR THE 100 FOOT
10:47:29AM DISTANCE SEPARATION? WELL, A NUMBER OF REASONS.
10:47:31AM FIRST, IT CLEARLY MAKES THE CRITERIA FOR A SPECIAL USE
10:47:34AM PERMIT UNDER 27.129.
10:47:39AM WE WILL WORK THROUGH THE CRITERIA IN THIS PRESENTATION.
10:47:41AM ON TOP OF THAT, REASONABLE ACCOMODATION IS NECESSARY,
10:47:41AM REASONABLE AND LEGALLY REQUIRED FOR PERSONS WITH
10:47:46AM DISABILITIES.
10:47:47AM IT WILL NOT RESULT IN THE FUNDAMENTAL ALTERATION OF THE CITY
10:47:51AM ZONING, AND YOU WILL SEE AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE
10:47:55AM TODAY TO TESTIFY.
10:47:56AM THIS TYPE OF FACILITY IS A HOME. IT POSES NO THREAT TO THE
10:47:56AM COMMUNITY, AND IT MEETS THE PRESENT NEED OF THE STATE OF
10:47:56AM FLORIDA TO PROVIDE FAMILY-BASED CARE AND PEOPLE WITH
10:48:12AM DISABILITIES.
10:48:12AM THIS IS A STANDARD RESIDENTIAL HABILITATION. IT'S REGULATED
10:48:22AM AND MONITORED BY THE FLORIDA AGENCY FOR PERSONS WITH
10:48:23AM DISABILITIES.
10:48:25AM THE RESIDENTS ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENTAL
10:48:25AM DISABILITY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE IS A DISORDER OR
10:48:32AM SYNDROME, SOME TYPE OF INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, CEREBRAL
10:48:35AM PALSY, DOWN SYNDROME, OTHER TYPES OF DISABILITIES THAT ARE
10:48:41AM REASONABLY EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INDEFINITELY.
10:48:43AM THEY DO FALL UNDER THE FEDERAL AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES
10:48:48AM ACT AND UNDER THE DEFINITION OF HANDICAPPED UNDER THE
10:48:51AM DEFINITION OF THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING ACT.
10:48:58AM THIS IS MORE THAN A FACILITY WHEN YOU THINK OF A FACILITY AS
10:49:00AM SOME KIND OF INSTITUTION.
10:49:03AM HAPPY ORCHIDS IS A HOME.
10:49:05AM AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PHOTOS, THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL
10:49:13AM FAMILY SETTING IS FOR PROVIDING HELP FOR PERSONS ACHIEVING
10:49:19AM THEIR GOALS, SOCIAL INCLUSION, PRESERVING DIGNITY AND
10:49:21AM RESPECT.
10:49:25AM THE HAPPY ORCHIDS FACILITY PROVIDES HELP WITH DAILY LIVING
10:49:30AM SKILLS, MEDICATION, PERSONAL CARE, ALSO ACTIVITIES, DIET,
10:49:33AM NUTRITION, AND CELEBRATION.
10:49:39AM I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE BACKGROUND.
10:49:43AM ATTORNEY KERT ALREADY WENT THROUGH IT.
10:49:46AM AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENED, THERE IS AN APPLICATION FOR A
10:49:47AM SPECIAL USE 1 PERMIT.
10:49:51AM IT WAS RECEIVED AND DENIED BASED SOLELY ON THE 1200 FOOT
10:49:55AM DISTANCE SEPARATION.
10:49:56AM AND FOR THE RECORD, WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATED SITE PLAN
10:49:59AM RELATED TO THE DRIVEWAY SO YOU WILL SEE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE
10:50:01AM WITH THAT.
10:50:01AM 27-132, THIS IS THE ONE ISSUE, THE 1200-FOOT SEPARATION.
10:50:17AM THAT WAS A SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
10:50:18AM AND NOW YOU HAVE THE 27.129 IN LOOKING AT GENERAL STANDARDS
10:50:23AM TO REQUEST FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE HOW AND WHETHER YOU
10:50:27AM SHOULD MAKE A WAIVER FOR THIS CRITERIA.
10:50:30AM SO NOW TO GO THROUGH ALL THE CRITERIA.
10:50:46AM THE USE IS FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
10:50:50AM IT IS LOCATED AND PROPOSED -- THIS TYPE OF GROUP HOME IS
10:50:56AM HEAVILY LICENSED, REGULATED AND MONITORED BY THE AGENCY FOR
10:50:58AM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE AND
10:51:01AM FLORIDA'S ADMINISTRATIVE CODES.
10:51:06AM THERE ARE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AS WELL AS INSPECTIONS THAT
10:51:10AM HAPPEN UNANNOUNCED.
10:51:20AM [NO ENCODER]
10:51:25AM [NO ENCODER]
10:51:27AM AN EMAIL SAYING YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:51:29AM HARD WORK AND DEDICATION.
10:51:31AM THIS IS A VERY PROFESSIONAL COMMITTED STAFF.
10:51:33AM THEY ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. THEY CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE
10:51:34AM THEY HELPED.
10:51:37AM THEY ARE NO THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:51:40AM NUMBER TWO, THAT IT COMPLIES WITH REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS.
10:51:44AM AS YOU HEARD FROM REBECCA KERT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN
10:51:47AM COMPLIANCE.
10:51:50AM THE SITUATION WITH THE DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN UPDATED.
10:51:53AM WE PROVIDED AN UPDATED SITE PLAN, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT
10:51:56AM CAN BE CLARIFIED IN THE FINAL APPROVAL PROCESS.
10:51:59AM THE USE IS COMPATIBLE AND CONTIGUOUS WITH SURROUNDING
10:51:59AM PROPERTY OR THE USE IS A PUBLIC NECESSITY. IT IS BOTH.
10:51:59AM FIRST, IT IS A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:52:16AM AND THE WAY THAT THE HAPPY ORCHIDS HOME IS, IT IS A
10:52:22AM RESIDENCE, AND IT'S TO LIVE IN A NORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:52:23AM FLORIDA STATUTES ACTUALLY SAYING THAT HOMES OF SIX OR FEWER
10:52:23AM RESIDENCE, TO MEET THE DEFINITION OF A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY
10:52:35AM HOME, A SINGLE-FAMILY UNIT, AND NONCOMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL
10:52:39AM USE FOR THE PURPOSE OF LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCES.
10:52:47AM THE OWNER FROM THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY NEARBY HAS
10:52:50AM SUBMITTED A LETTER IN SUPPORT, AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT USES
10:52:55AM BECAUSE THIS IS FOR AN AGENCY FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES,
10:53:00AM RESIDENTIAL REHABILITATION, VERSUS AN ASSISTIVE LIVING
10:53:08AM FACILITY. THERE ARE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
10:53:14AM NEXT, THE USE IS IN CONFORMITY WITH TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE
10:53:16AM PLAN, THE NUMEROUS SECTIONS, AS THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:53:21AM THAT EXPLAINS, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW TO GET LIVING FACILITIES IN
10:53:26AM A LAND USE PLANNED CATEGORY, RESIDENTIAL USES, IT SPEAKS TO
10:53:34AM ALLOCATION OF EXISTING HOMES TO IMPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF
10:53:35AM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
10:53:36AM NUMBER 5 OF THE CRITERIA, THE USE WILL NOT ESTABLISH A
10:53:36AM PRECEDENT OR ENCOURAGE MORE INTENSIVE OR INCOMPATIBLE USES.
10:53:36AM THE PHOTO THAT YOU WILL SEE IS THE INSIDE OF THE OTHER HAPPY
10:53:36AM ORCHIDS HOME. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A REGULAR HOME. THE ONLY
10:53:36AM DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR
10:53:36AM DISABILITIES LIKE THE SHOWER HEADS AND OTHER AREAS. IT'S
10:53:36AM NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
10:54:22AM IN LOOKING AT 27-129B, I WANT TO LOOK AT THESE REALLY
10:54:26AM QUICKLY.
10:54:27AM THEY SPEAK TO INGRESS-EGRESS, PARKING, LIGHTING, UTILITIES,
10:54:31AM REFUGE, DRAINAGE. CONTROL OF POTENTIALLY ADVERSE EFFECTS
10:54:32AM GENERALLY.
10:54:36AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS JUST A REGULAR HOME.
10:54:39AM THERE'S NOTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT IT. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE
10:54:40AM A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT. THE RESIDENTS WILL GO
10:54:40AM TO ADULT DAYCARE FACILITIES DURING THE DAY.
10:54:49AM BASICALLY THE SAME TRAFFIC AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS DURING THE
10:54:52AM DAY.
10:54:58AM NOW WE TURN TO THE CRITERIA FOR 27-129.
10:55:02AM AND SO YOUR DECISION TODAY IS BASED ON THAT CRITERIA. IN
10:55:06AM MAKING THIS DECISION, I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER AND THINK, AS
10:55:12AM ATTORNEY KERT HAS MENTIONED, THAT REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION
10:55:15AM IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOVERNED BY FEDERAL LAW. IT'S
10:55:18AM NECESSARY, REASONABLE AND LEGALLY REQUIRED FOR PERSONS WITH
10:55:18AM DISABILITIES, COVERED BY BOTH THE AMERICANS WITH
10:55:23AM DISABILITIES ACT, FAIR HOUSING ACT, AND AS MENTIONED THE
10:55:26AM CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
10:55:28AM I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT IN OCTOBER 2018 THE CITY DID PASS
10:55:35AM AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION.
10:55:41AM AT THE TIME THAT MY CLIENTS APPLIED FOR A SPECIAL USE
10:55:43AM PERMIT, SHE WAS NOT AWARE OF APPLYING UNDER THIS PROCESS.
10:55:49AM AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO COVER ALL BASES. ULTIMATELY, WHAT
10:55:52AM WE WANT IS A DECISION TO HAVE A WAIVER FOR THE 1200 FOOT
10:55:55AM DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T APPLIED
10:56:01AM BUT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT.
10:56:38AM THE GENTLEMAN IN THE PHOTO IS DANNY AND THE LITTLE GIRL IS
10:56:42AM ACTUALLY MY CLIENT'S DAUGHTER, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS
10:56:46AM A FAMILY THAT HAS RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO RISK.
10:56:50AM SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE AS A DISTINCTION,
10:56:50AM IS THAT THERE'S A STANDARD RESIDENTIAL HABILITATION
10:56:58AM WHICH IS FOR INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS THIS WHO HAVE DISABILITIES.
10:57:02AM THERE'S ALSO BEHAVIORAL RESIDENTIAL HABILITATION WHICH IS
10:57:06AM SPECIFIC FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. THIS MIGHT
10:57:10AM BE PEOPLE WITH ADDICTION, WITH OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT
10:57:13AM COULD POTENTIALLY POSE A RISK TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:57:18AM THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR HAPPY ORCHIDS.
10:57:21AM HAPPY ORCHIDS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
10:57:24AM IT'S FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
10:57:27AM IT MEETS THE PRESENT NEED OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO PROVIDE
10:57:29AM FAMILY-BASED CARE FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. SOMETHING
10:57:33AM THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW AS OF SEPTEMBER 2018, OVER 21,000
10:57:37AM PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ON THE WAITING LIST IN FLORIDA TO
10:57:40AM RECEIVE THESE TYPES OF SERVICES AS FAR AS HAVING A PROVIDER
10:57:46AM LIKE HAPPY ORCHIDS.
10:57:47AM SO EVERY FACILITY LIKE HAPPY ORCHIDS HELPS MEET THESE
10:57:53AM CRITICAL NEEDS.
10:57:59AM GOVERNOR DESANTIS ACTUALLY PASSED A RESOLUTION IN MARCH
10:58:00AM SPEAKING TO THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING DEVELOPMENTAL
10:58:05AM DISABILITIES AND THE STATE'S COMMITMENT.
10:58:08AM NOW I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MY CLIENT LISANDRA
10:58:10AM MONTEGUDO TO TELL YOU A FEW WORDS AND PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE.
10:58:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:58:21AM MY NAME IS LISANDRA MONTEGUDO AND I AM THE FOUNDER AND OWNER
10:58:26AM OF HAPPY ORCHIDS HOME SERVICES AND TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS
10:58:30AM WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES WITH HELP IN THEIR
10:58:33AM ACHIEVEMENT OF PERSONAL GOALS, SOCIAL INCLUSION, CHOICES,
10:58:36AM MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS, RIGHTS, DIGNITY, AND RESPECT.
10:58:40AM TODAY I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE WAIVE THE DISTANCE
10:58:43AM REQUIREMENT IN THE SPECIAL USE 1 FOR HAPPY ORCHIDS HOME
10:58:48AM SERVICES SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH
10:58:52AM DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE
10:58:56AM THEIR DREAMS.
10:58:56AM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLE OF FAMILY AND HAPPY
10:58:58AM ORCHIDS HOME SERVICES.
10:58:59AM THIS IS A FAMILY BUSINESS, AND RESIDENTS ARE EXTENDED
10:59:02AM FAMILY.
10:59:02AM ON CHRISTMAS THEY RECEIVE PRESENTS.
10:59:05AM WE CELEBRATE BIRTHDAYS, AND WE TAKE CARE OF THEM.
10:59:09AM THIS IS A HOME.
10:59:09AM MY YOUNG DAUGHTER REGULARLY INTERACTS AND HAS BUILT
10:59:13AM FRIENDSHIPS WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
10:59:14AM I WILL NEVER PUT HER OR ANYONE IN HARM.
10:59:21AM A GROUP HOME LIKE THE ONE POSES NO THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:59:26AM STANDARD RESIDENTIAL HABILITATION FACILITIES ARE MONITORED
10:59:31AM MONTHLY AND INSPECTED TO ENSURE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE
10:59:34AM INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHILE AT HOME AND IN THE
10:59:36AM COMMUNITY.
10:59:36AM THEY REQUIRE THE OPERATORS TO PROVIDE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS
10:59:40AM THAT WORK ON INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, GOALS, DAILY
10:59:44AM LIVING ACTIVITIES, AND LIFE SKILLS TO ENSURE QUALITY OF
10:59:48AM LIFE.
10:59:48AM THERE WILL BE NO THREAT OR CHANGES IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:59:51AM THERE WILL BE NO EXTERIOR SIGNS WHICH WILL LABEL THE
10:59:54AM RESIDENT OF THE FACILITY BY INDICATING THAT THE FACILITIES
10:59:59AM SERVES INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITY.
11:00:01AM PARKING, TRAFFIC, LIGHTING, GARBAGE ARE ALL THE SAME AS ANY
11:00:05AM OTHER HOME.
11:00:05AM THERE WILL BE NO ADVERSE IMPACT HAPPY ORCHIDS IN THE
11:00:10AM COMMUNITY.
11:00:11AM THERE WILL BE NO THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE
11:00:12AM INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES THAT THE FACILITY WILL SERVE
11:00:17AM WILL NOT, I REPEAT, WILL NOT BE SEX OFFENDERS, DRUG ADDICTS,
11:00:22AM CONVICTS, OR HAVE ANY BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS.
11:00:25AM I'M AWARE THERE'S AN ASSISTIVE LIVING FACILITY CLOSE BY.
11:00:28AM HOWEVER, BOTH FACILITIES WILL BE LICENSED UNDER DIFFERENT
11:00:31AM STATE AGENCIES AND WILL PROVIDE CARE AND SERVICES TO
11:00:33AM DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS.
11:00:35AM AS MANY OF US MAY KNOW, THERE IS A NEED TO EMBRACE DIVERSITY
11:00:39AM AND INCLUSION OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO OUR COMMUNITIES
11:00:42AM BY ENCOURAGING AWARENESS, ACHIEVEMENT OF THOUSANDS OF
11:00:46AM INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY WHO CONTRIBUTE
11:00:49AM DAILY TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:00:51AM OUR STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO
11:00:55AM SUPPORTING INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
11:00:58AM THERE ARE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT HAVE
11:01:00AM BEEN DEVELOPED TO SUPPORT AND MAXIMIZE THE INDEPENDENCE OF
11:01:05AM PEOPLE WITH MENTAL DISABILITIES TO CREATE A MORE INCLUSIVE
11:01:09AM SOCIETY.
11:01:10AM THE FLORIDA AGENCY FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES WORKS WITH
11:01:14AM LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND PRIVATE PROVIDERS JUST LIKE HAPPY
11:01:17AM ORCHIDS HOME SERVICES TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
11:01:21AM DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN LIVING,
11:01:24AM LEARNING AND WORKING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
11:01:26AM ADDITIONALLY, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE IN IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS
11:01:29AM OF PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES FOR SUPPORT AND
11:01:32AM SERVICES AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON DISABILITY ISSUES.
11:01:36AM HAPPY ORCHIDS HOME SERVICES RESPECTFULLY AND HUMBLY REQUESTS
11:01:41AM A WAIVER OF THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT OF OUR STANDARD
11:01:43AM RESIDENTIAL HOME IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:01:48AM [BELL SOUNDS]
11:01:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:01:50AM ANYTHING ELSE?
11:01:50AM >> WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE.
11:02:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:02:01AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR PRESENTATION?
11:02:03AM >> NO, THAT'S ALL, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:02:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND MR. SHELBY HAD ASKED BEFORE WE GET TO
11:02:11AM COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS, WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
11:02:13AM SO WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW, IF WE MAY.
11:02:16AM ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND
11:02:24AM MAKE YOUR CASE.
11:02:35AM STATE YOUR NAME.
11:02:36AM >> I'M ALSO A VETERAN.
11:02:40AM MY SISTER HAPPENS TO BE IN THE BEST CARE EVER --
11:02:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND I'M SO SORRY.
11:02:47AM HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
11:02:52AM IF WE CAN HAVE EVERYONE SWORN IN.
11:02:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU PLEASE ANNOUNCE WHEN YOU ASK
11:03:00AM PEOPLE TO BE SWORN IN TO STAND AND RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND,
11:03:02AM IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT.
11:03:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND UP
11:03:05AM AND BE SWORN IN.
11:03:06AM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:03:14AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:03:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:03:18AM >> MY NAME IS HENRY M. MOLARES, AND I'M REPRESENTING MY
11:03:24AM SISTER, CONNIE MORALES.
11:03:29AM SHE'S CURRENTLY 66 YEARS OLD, AND EVER SINCE SHE'S BEEN
11:03:33AM EIGHT YEARS OLD SHE'S HAD MENTAL ISSUES, PHYSICAL
11:03:37AM DISABILITIES, AND ALL HER ENTIRE LIFE SHE'S BEEN IN
11:03:43AM INSTITUTIONS WHERE THEY PROVIDED SOME TYPE OF MENTAL CARE,
11:03:48AM PHYSICAL FACILITY CARE, BUT UNTIL WE ENROLLED IN THE ADT
11:03:57AM PROGRAM, MY SISTER HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WELL TAKEN CARE OF,
11:04:05AM ESPECIALLY WHEN WE MET LISANDRA AT HAPPY ORCHID.
11:04:11AM WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND HAD OUR MEETING, I WAS RELIEVED THAT MY
11:04:19AM BROTHER AND I, WHO IS ALSO RETIRED AIR FORCE COLONEL -- I'M
11:04:24AM RETIRED SERGEANT FIRST CLASS FROM THE ARMY -- WERE UNABLE TO
11:04:29AM FIND A HOME WHO UNDERSTANDS THE BASIC NECESSITATES AND THE
11:04:33AM NEEDS OF SOMEONE LIKE MY SISTER.
11:04:37AM AT NO FAULT, SHE JUST HAPPENED TO GROW TO BE A DISABLED
11:04:47AM PERSON.
11:04:48AM AND I THANK GOD THAT WE FOUND HAPPY ORCHIDS.
11:04:51AM I ALREADY MENNTIONED THAT. BUT THEY HAVE PROVIDED MY SISTER
11:04:55AM WITH SUCH A PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL STABILITY THAT WE ARE
11:05:00AM JUST OVERWHELMED WITH THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY LISANDRA, HER
11:05:13AM MOM, THE STAFF THAT WORKS THERE, TAKES SUCH PRECAUTION IN
11:05:14AM EVERYTHING THEY DO, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT MY SISTER IF
11:05:17AM YOU HAPPENED TO GO AND VISIT THE SITE, SHE IS VERY HAPPY,
11:05:23AM SHE UNDERSTANDS WHERE SHE'S AT, AND SHE HAS ADOPTED TO THIS
11:05:27AM HOME ENVIRONMENT.
11:05:29AM MY MOM PASSED AWAY TWO YEARS AGO, AND IN HER WILL SHE
11:05:33AM SPECIFICALLY APPOINTED ME TO BE HER LEGAL GUARDIAN.
11:05:37AM AND I HAD TO BRING HER FROM PUERTO RICO WHERE SHE PASSED
11:05:42AM AWAY, AND WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO FIND THIS PROGRAM, AND
11:05:44AM EVER SINCE IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, CLOSE TO THREE,
11:05:50AM SHE HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH THE BEST CARE EVER.
11:05:53AM AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THE PRESENTATION TODAY TO GRANT THIS
11:05:58AM WAIVER.
11:05:58AM THANK YOU.
11:06:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:06:00AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:06:01AM >>FROM THE FLOOR: [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:07:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MARY.
11:07:44AM THANK YOU.
11:07:45AM ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:07:49AM OKAY.
11:07:49AM SEEING NONE, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM
11:07:52AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:07:53AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:07:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
11:07:57AM BEING HERE.
11:07:58AM I'M SORRY YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS BUT WE DO HAVE
11:08:00AM OUR CODE AND OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.
11:08:03AM I SEE THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S HOLDING THIS BACK IS THIS
11:08:06AM DISTANCE SEPARATION, BECAUSE ELDERLY RETIRED MORE THAN 430
11:08:18AM FEET AWAY.
11:08:18AM OTHERWISE THERE WOULDN'T BE ALL OF THIS.
11:08:20AM BUT I THINK YOU PROVIDE A NECESSARY AND VERY GOOD SERVICE TO
11:08:23AM THE COMMUNITY.
11:08:24AM OF COURSE IT'S IN DEMAND BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE
11:08:27AM THAT ARE ON A WAITING LIST.
11:08:32AM YOU ARE APPROVED FROM THE STATE LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN.
11:08:34AM NEWER COMPLIANCE.
11:08:35AM AND I KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF DISCUSSION ABOUT DRIVE
11:08:39AM WEIGH BUT THIS ISSUE IS THE WAIVER THAT'S BEING REQUESTED
11:08:41AM FOR THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
11:08:42AM I HAVE NO ISSUES.
11:08:45AM YOU HAVE SUPPORT FROM NEIGHBORS.
11:08:47AM YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANGRY MOB OF PEOPLE HERE SAYING THEY DON'T
11:08:50AM WANT YOU IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:08:52AM I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS SO I WITNESSED SEVERAL
11:08:55AM DIFFERENT CASES.
11:08:56AM I KNOW WE STILL HAVE TO GO TO DISCUSSION BY OTHER COUNCIL
11:09:00AM MEMBERS BUT I'M HEAP TO SUPPORT REVERSING THE DECISION AND
11:09:02AM APPROVE IT.
11:09:06AM BUT HAPPY TO HAVE DISCUSSION.
11:09:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, IT ALWAYS MAKES ME FEEL VERY
11:09:13AM EMOTIONAL WHEN I SEE OTHERS HELPING OTHERS.
11:09:18AM AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMPASSION TO HELP
11:09:25AM PEOPLE.
11:09:26AM AND I SEE YOU HAVE THAT AND I SEE YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS
11:09:29AM THAT.
11:09:33AM A PERSON WHO SERVED THE PUBLIC -- AND I HAVE BEEN IN MANY
11:09:35AM PLACES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WITH
11:09:38AM DISABILITIES OR MISTREAT THEM JUST TO TAKE MONEY AND DO
11:09:42AM THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T DO.
11:09:43AM BUT I SEE THAT YOU ARE A LOVING HEART.
11:09:49AM I KNOW YOU WERE NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS BUT SOMETIMES
11:09:53AM WE HAVE TO WAIVE THINGS.
11:09:56AM THANK YOU FOR COMING.
11:10:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
11:10:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU STUDY MY PAST
11:10:08AM RECORD ON THESE, I HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED ONE THAT WAS UNDER
11:10:08AM 1200 FEET. HOWEVER, SOMETIMES UNDERSTANDING THE NEED OF
11:10:17AM NECESSITATES OVERRIDE THE RULING OF LAW, SO IN THIS CASE I
11:10:21AM SUPPORT IT.
11:10:21AM >> JOSEPH CITRO: I HEARD YOU STATE -- PLEASE STAY AT THE
11:10:32AM PODIUM.
11:10:32AM I HEARD YOU STATE THERE WERE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
11:10:35AM >> YES.
11:10:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU OR MR. COTTON KNOW OF ANY LETTERS OR
11:10:39AM E-MAILS OF OPPOSITION?
11:10:41AM >> THERE WERE SEVERAL LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
11:10:48AM AND ACTUALLY WHEN YOU READ THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, THE
11:10:52AM CONCERN IS THAT THEY WERE AFRAID IT WAS SOME TYPE OF
11:10:58AM FACILITY THAT POSED A VIOLENT RISK TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:11:02AM AND AS YOU HEARD TODAY, THIS TYPE OF HOME DOES NOT POSE THAT
11:11:03AM TYPE OF RISK. THERE MIGHT BE SOME TYPE OF MISCONCEPTION
11:11:03AM ABOUT HAPPY ORCHIDS.
11:11:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON MY PRIOR BOARDS I WAS A COMMUNITY
11:11:17AM ACTIVIST.
11:11:18AM THAT'S HOW I WAS LISTED.
11:11:20AM SO I DO LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:11:23AM MR. COTTON, DO YOU CONCUR WITH HER THAT THOSE LETTERS DO ASK
11:11:26AM THE QUESTIONS OF THE RESIDENTS?
11:11:30AM >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:11:32AM I AM JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WAS IN MY FILE.
11:11:37AM THERE'S A FORM LETTER THAT THE PERSON WHO OBJECTED TO IT
11:11:38AM EARLIER, SHE UNDERSTANDS THEY ARE WORKING ASKING FOR WORKING
11:11:45AM WITH THE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
11:11:49AM SHE DID WRITE SHE OBJECTS TO IT.
11:11:55AM ANOTHER ONE SAYS THEY STRONGLY OBJECT TO IT.
11:11:58AM I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF -- THERE ARE SOME LETTERS OF OBJECTION
11:12:08AM FOR IT.
11:12:09AM AND IT'S MORE -- ONE TALKS ABOUT SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT DRUG
11:12:21AM DEALING, SQUATTERS, AND THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES AGAINST IT.
11:12:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ERIC, DON'T GO FAR.
11:12:35AM FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING NOT
11:12:42AM SPECIFIC TO THIS REQUEST, BUT IN A BIGGER SENSE AT A LATER
11:12:48AM DATE, WHAT IS THE HISTORY ON THE SEPARATION?
11:12:49AM I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE SEPARATION AND THE CODE AS RELATED
11:12:56AM TO BARS AND OTHER TYPES OF USES LIKE THAT.
11:13:00AM BUT YOU KNOW THE HISTORY ON THIS TYPE OF SEPARATION?
11:13:07AM >>ERIC COTTON: THE SEPARATION STANDARD ARE ACTUALLY UNDER
11:13:09AM STATE STATUTE.
11:13:10AM BASICALLY, CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY, WHETHER THEY BE
11:13:14AM LICENSED BY ACCHA OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, OR CHILDREN
11:13:20AM AND FAMILY SERVICES, THERE'S A STATE STATUTES THAT SAYS UP
11:13:26AM TO 6 RESIDENTS IF THERE IS NOT ANOTHER ONE WITHIN A THOUSAND
11:13:30AM FEET.
11:13:33AM OUR CODE IS 1200.
11:13:34AM I DON'T KNOW IF AT ONE POINT THE STATE WAS 1200 AND WE
11:13:37AM MIMICKED THE STATE OR WHY OURS WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE.
11:13:42AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:13:42AM BUT THAT'S THE BASIS FOR IT.
11:13:44AM BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND APPLIES FOR LAND
11:13:48AM DEVELOPMENT OR ZONING, THE APPLICATION, IF THERE'S ANOTHER
11:13:53AM ONE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET WE TELL THEM WE DENY THE REQUEST
11:13:56AM AND TELL THEM TO COMPLY WITH THE SPECIAL USE PROCESS.
11:14:05AM AND THEN COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE SPECIFIC
11:14:08AM CRITERIA, THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA.
11:14:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS LONG AS WE ARE DISCUSSING, I IT'S
11:14:15AM SOMETHING WE SHOULD REVISIT AND REVIEW WHETHER OR NOT WE
11:14:17AM EVEN NEED THAT SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.
11:14:26AM TO PUT FOLKS LIKE THIS THROUGH THIS, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT
11:14:31AM IT.
11:14:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:14:32AM OKAY.
11:14:35AM I THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.
11:14:37AM 110%.
11:14:38AM I MEAN THAT.
11:14:40AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:42AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:14:44AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:14:45AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:14:46AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:14:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:50AM I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF
11:14:54AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SU-1-1905 BECAUSE THE
11:14:59AM PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION, IF THE WAIVER
11:15:02AM IS GRANTED, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL
11:15:04AM STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-129.
11:15:09AM AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING SITE PLAN MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE
11:15:11AM CODE AND TECHNICAL STANDARDS, SEE SECTION 27-61B AND 27
11:15:15AM 127B-2, THE WAIVERS SHOULD BE GRANTED FOR THE PETITION
11:15:20AM BECAUSE IT HAS MET THE GENERAL STANDARDS CONTAINED IN
11:15:24AM SECTION 27-129.
11:15:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
11:15:28AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:15:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:15:34AM THANK YOU.
11:15:34AM AND NOW THAT THE HEARING IS DONE, I WANTED TO SAY --
11:15:39AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:15:42AM >> THANK YOU.
11:15:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:15:44AM I DIDN'T SAY THIS DURING THE HEARING BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE
11:15:44AM APPROPRIATE, BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE AN OLDER BROTHER JUAN WHO
11:15:50AM IS DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED AT A GROUP HOME IN BRANDON, NEW
11:15:52AM HORIZONS GROUP HOME, SO ALL THIS STUFF THAT YOU TALKED
11:15:55AM ABOUT, MEDICAID WAIVER, THE APD, THE WAITING LIST OF 21,000
11:15:58AM PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE CUT DOWN TO ZERO, I KNOW 110% OF THAT.
11:16:02AM THANK YOU, GUYS.
11:16:03AM >> THANK YOU.
11:16:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE GO TO ITEM 35.
11:16:09AM WHICH APPARENTLY CANNOT BE HEARD AS WE HAVE NO AFFIDAVIT.
11:16:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION PLEASE TO RESCHEDULE IT.
11:16:16AM >> MOTION TO RESCHEDULE TO AUGUST 1, 2019. 10:30.
11:16:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
11:16:23AM MIRANDA.
11:16:24AM ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
11:16:26AM NOW WE GET TO MOTIONS.
11:16:33AM COUNCILMAN.
11:16:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP AT SOME POINT AT A
11:16:38AM LATER DATE, AND I WILL LET THEM SCHEDULE IT.
11:16:41AM I WOULD LIKE LEGAL STAFF TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND ANY
11:16:45AM POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS OF OUR ZONING CODE TO PERHAPS TAKE THE
11:16:50AM BURDEN OFF OF THESE TYPES OF HOMES COMING THROUGH THIS.
11:16:54AM PROBABLY AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS.
11:16:55AM >> SECOND.
11:16:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT?
11:17:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY SUGGEST, ADD IT TO THE AMENDMENT
11:17:03AM CYCLE, MR. TERRITO?
11:17:04AM >>SAL TERRITO: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:17:05AM I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
11:17:09AM WHAT I HEARD IS THE 1,000 FEET, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU
11:17:12AM SAY. IT MIGHT HAVE HELPED, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE STAFF
11:17:14AM WOULD HAVE SAID, BUT WHEN I WAS DOING THIS YEARS AGO AS A
11:17:17AM HEARING OFFICER, WE WOULD HAVE THESE KIND OF ISSUES COME UP
11:17:20AM BEFORE US, WHERE THE STAFF HAD NO AUTHORITY BUT THEY WOULD
11:17:23AM GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION BUT THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT MOVING
11:17:26AM FORWARD.
11:17:27AM IT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF TIME TODAY.
11:17:29AM MAY NOT HAVE TAKEN THAT POSITION, BUT THEY ARE IN A POSITION
11:17:32AM NOW IF YOU THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THEY SHOULD BE DOING ONLY
11:17:34AM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION THAT YOU CAN, IT MAY
11:17:37AM BE SOMETHING YOU CAN PUT IN CODE THAT THEY SHOULD BE MAKING
11:17:40AM A RECOMMENDATION. IT WOULD CUT THROUGH A LOT OF THIS LONG
11:17:43AM DISCUSSION.
11:17:50AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 1200 SOUND LIKE MAYBE WE COULD DO 1,000.
11:17:53AM MAYBE ADD THAT PROVISION.
11:17:56AM I'M SURE WE CAN BE CREATIVE ON WHAT ELSE.
11:17:59AM >>REBECCA KERT: I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SET THIS FOR A STAFF
11:18:03AM REPORT SOMETIME, PROBABLY 30 DAYS, TO MAKE CHANGES TO
11:18:09AM CHAPTER 27 WHICH IS TWICE A YEAR SO WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE
11:18:14AM WHATEVER AMENDMENTS WE ARE PROPOSING BY JULY.
11:18:17AM AND I THINK YOU MAY WANT SOME DISCUSSION RATHER THAN JUST
11:18:20AM PUT IT IN THE JULY CYCLE BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT SEE IT FOR
11:18:26AM SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER THAT.
11:18:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF YOU,
11:18:31AM COUNCIL?
11:18:32AM 30 DAYS THEN, STAFF REPORT?
11:18:35AM OR A WORKSHOP?
11:18:39AM STAFF REPORT?
11:18:40AM 30 DAYS WOULD BE JUNE 6th.
11:18:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE FINE.
11:18:46AM AND I'LL MOVE THAT.
11:18:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:18:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE MOTION IS TO BRING IT BACK UNDER
11:19:01AM STAFF REPORTS JUNE 6th?
11:19:03AM >> YES.
11:19:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND COUNCIL?
11:19:09AM >> YOU ALLUDED TO LOOKING AT MORE THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE ON
11:19:14AM GROUP HOMES.
11:19:16AM IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE ARE GOING TO GO AND LOOK AT ALL THE
11:19:20AM RULES REGARDING TO SEE IF ANYTHING IS OUTDATED.
11:19:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
11:19:30AM WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECOND
11:19:34AM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:19:37AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:19:37AM OPPOSED?
11:19:38AM ANYTHING FURTHER?
11:19:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] YES.
11:19:42AM SINCE THERE IS A LITTLE WINDOW HERE ON CODE AMENDMENT, I'M
11:19:46AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
11:19:48AM MR. CITRO AND I, SITTING ON THE VARIANCE BOARD, AND MR.
11:19:53AM CITRO DID A GREAT JOB AS CHAIRMAN, THE ISSUE OF FRONT
11:19:58AM PORCHES CAME UP PERIODICALLY.
11:20:04AM KRISTEN IS HERE AS WELL.
11:20:06AM IT WOULD COME UP PERIODICALLY.
11:20:08AM AND RIGHT NOW OUR ZONING CODE ALLOWS FRONT PORCHES TO BE
11:20:12AM ADDED ALMOST AS A MATTER OF RIGHT IN THE RS-50 BUT IN THE
11:20:18AM RS-60 IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, AND THE RS-75 AND RS 100 IS NOT
11:20:23AM ALLOWED PER SE.
11:20:24AM I THINK MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST EIGHT OR
11:20:26AM TEN YEARS HAVE BEEN USING THIS FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE TO ADD
11:20:31AM FRONT PORCHES OR TO INCLUDE FRONT PORCHES IN NEW
11:20:34AM CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I THINK IS A WONDERFUL THING AND WE CAN
11:20:36AM GO INTO AT A LATER DATE.
11:20:39AM I WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF TAKING THE
11:20:43AM FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE AND EXPANDING IT TO ALL ZONING
11:20:46AM DISTRICTS WHERE APPROPRIATE, PERHAPS NOT IN THE HYDE PARK
11:20:53AM DISTRICT BUT THE OTHER HISTORIC DISTRICTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
11:20:55AM THEIR OWN ISSUES AND REGULATIONS.
11:20:58AM BUT IN TERMS OF EUCLIDEAN ZONINGS OF RS-60, 75, 100, WHAT
11:21:03AM HAVE YOU, TO EXPAND IT.
11:21:05AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT 30 DAYS FROM NOW BUT THAT SAME
11:21:10AM DATE, MR. SHELBY.
11:21:11AM >>REBECCA KERT: IF I MAY, WE ARE ANTICIPATING -- THE STAFF
11:21:16AM REPORTS ARE VERY SHORT, 5-MINUTE DISCUSSIONS, WHICH THE
11:21:19AM ORIGINAL MOTION ON THE PREVIOUS ONE SEEMED PRETTY SHORT AND
11:21:23AM STRAIGHTFORWARD.
11:21:24AM SO I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR STAFF REPORT OR
11:21:26AM WORKSHOP.
11:21:26AM BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY WARRANT A LITTLE MORE
11:21:29AM DISCUSSION.
11:21:30AM SO YOU MAY WANT TO SCHEDULE THAT FOR A WORKSHOP.
11:21:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, YOUR NEXT
11:21:37AM WORKSHOP DATE WOULD BE JUNE 20th, 9:00 A.M.
11:21:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES THAT FIT INTO OUR SCHEDULE IN TERMS
11:21:43AM OF THE NEXT CYCLE OF AMENDMENTS?
11:21:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, JUNE 20th.
11:21:50AM THAT'S THE JUNE WORKSHOPS.
11:21:52AM >>REBECCA KERT: TO BE HONEST THAT'S A VERY SHORT TIME
11:21:56AM FRAME.
11:21:57AM AT THAT TIME YOU HAVE TO COME TO A CONCLUSION BECAUSE I
11:21:59AM BELIEVE IT JULY 15th, THEREABOUTS, THE CUT-OFF DATE, AND
11:22:02AM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ASK PLANNING STAFF BECAUSE THEY REALLY
11:22:08AM HAVE INTEGRAL INPUT INTO OBVIOUSLY YOUR PLANNING --
11:22:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT JUST PLANNING STAFF BUT ALSO LIKE TO
11:22:14AM INCLUDE A REPORT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT STAFF, AND IF
11:22:18AM THEY CAN COME UP WITH IT IN TERMS OF FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN
11:22:22AM USING THE RS 50, USING THE ORDINANCE TO ADD FRONT PORCHES,
11:22:31AM PERHAPS GIVE SOME EXAMPLES, BECAUSE MR. CITRO AND I HAVE
11:22:34AM SEEN MANY INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO ADD FRONT PORCHES
11:22:38AM BUT THE CITY SORT OF GETS IN THE WAY.
11:22:40AM AND I'M TRYING TO GET THE CITY OUT OF THE WAY.
11:22:44AM SO FOLKS CAN DO THAT. ANYWAY, I'LL TAKE YOUR ADVICE, AND
11:22:48AM SCHEDULE IT FOR A WORKSHOP.
11:23:12AM [NO ENCODER]
11:23:14AM [NO ENCODER]
11:23:14AM >> STAFF BE ABLE TO GET THEIR JOB DONE FOR THE CYCLE EVEN ON
11:23:24AM JUNE 20th IS THE QUESTION.
11:23:25AM >>REBECCA KERT: BY JULY 15th, THERE HAS TO BE CLEAR
11:23:29AM DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
11:23:30AM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE EXACT LANGUAGE.
11:23:33AM THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT OVER TIME.
11:23:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:23:41AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:23:43AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:23:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:23:49AM OKAY. 9 A.M.
11:23:50AM AND FOR THE CLERK, DID WE GET THAT?
11:23:53AM OKAY, GOOD.
11:23:54AM ANYTHING FURTHER?
11:23:58AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:23:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT FIRST MEETING.
11:24:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING AT THIS TIME.
11:24:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] I REQUEST COUNCIL TO
11:24:15AM SCHEDULE A MEETING FOR MAY 16th FOR THE REVENUE AND
11:24:18AM FINANCE REPORT FOR MIDYEAR.
11:24:21AM MAYBE ON MAY 16, 2019, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
11:24:25AM THE PURPOSE IS FOR THE MID RANGE REPORTS SO COUNCIL CAN BE
11:24:29AM UPDATED ON WHERE WE ARE AT, THE BUDGET STARTING MIDDLE OF
11:24:34AM THIS YEAR. THIS PROCESS IS DONE EVERY YEAR MID-TERM.
11:24:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:24:40AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:24:42AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:24:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:24:47AM ANYTHING FURTHER?
11:24:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TODAY.
11:24:56AM WHAT I HEARD, THE COMPASSION BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE
11:24:59AM COMPASSION BY THE PEOPLE OF CITY OF TAMPA, AND THAT'S A GOOD
11:25:03AM DESIGN THAT THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE VERY PROUD.
11:25:09AM GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
11:25:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, I HAVE TWO MOTIONS AND MOVE THE
11:25:14AM GAVEL OVER TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:25:16AM FIRST I REQUEST THAT COUNCIL PREPARE A COMMENDATION FOR
11:25:19AM DELTA SIGMA THETA, FOR THE ANNUAL DELTA DAY AT CITY HALL,
11:25:21AM FURTHER THAT COMMENDATION BE PRESENTED BEFORE COUNCIL ON MAY
11:25:25AM 16, 2019 UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
11:25:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:25:33AM VIERA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR?
11:25:34AM ALL OPPOSED?
11:25:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM U.S.
11:25:37AM SOCOM MAKE A PRESENTATION ON MAY 16TH ON THE WARRIOR GAMES
11:25:46AM WILL BE COMING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA ON JUNE 21-30 WHICH IS
11:25:48AM GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS ASSET AND FINE FOR OUR
11:25:53AM CITY. ABOUT 300 WOUNDED AND DISABLED VETERANS ARE GOING TO
11:25:56AM BE PLAYING IN OLYMPIC SPORTS, AND JOHN STEWART HAS ALREADY
11:25:59AM BEEN HERE TO TAMPA TWICE IS GOING TO BE HOSTING IT, AND IT'S
11:26:02AM GOING TO BE A REALLY GREAT TIME, AND I WANT TO HAVE OUR
11:26:05AM FRIENDS FROM SOCOM COME AND BRIEF US ON IT.
11:26:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
11:26:10AM CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? THE MOTION PASSES.
11:26:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO IS RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS BY
11:26:21AM MR. MIRANDA.
11:26:22AM SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
11:26:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:26:24AM THANK YOU.
11:26:28AM (MEETING ADJOURNED).
11:26:33AM