TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 9, 2019
9:00 A.M.
CRA MEETING
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09:01:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE TAMPA -- CITY
09:01:34 OF TAMPA COMMUNITY
09:01:35 REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS NOW IN
09:01:35 SESSION.
09:01:36 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE
09:01:37 INVOCATION.
09:01:38 COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU
09:01:39 LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PERSON.
09:01:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR,
09:01:41 MR. CHAIR.
09:01:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:43 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY GOOD
09:01:45 FRIEND MR. MATT HALL TO COME
09:01:45 UP.
09:01:48 MATTHEW IS AN ATTORNEY IN A
09:01:50 STARTUP NEW BOUTIQUE FIRM BY
09:01:51 THE NAME OF HILL WARD
09:01:51 HENDERSON.
09:01:52 HE WORKS IN COMPLEX LITIGATION.
09:01:53 HE IS A PRIOR LAW CLERK WITH
09:01:54 THE UNITED STATES COURT OF
09:01:56 APPEALS, THE 11th CIRCUIT.
09:01:57 HE IS ALSO A REGULAR SPEAKER ON
09:01:59 RESEARCH AND IS A PROUD
09:02:01 UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA LEVIN
09:02:01 COLLEGE OF LAW GRADUATE.
09:02:02 PRIOR TO BECOMING AN ATTORNEY,
09:02:07 MATT SERVED AS AN INFANTRYMAN
09:02:07 IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND
09:02:09 WAS DEPLOYED TO IRAQ IN 2003.
09:02:10 HE CONTINUES TO ADVANCE
09:02:13 VETERANS' RIGHTS BY BEING THE
09:02:13 CHAIR OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
09:02:13 COUNTY BAR'S ASSOCIATION
09:02:13 MILITARY VETERANS AFFAIRS
09:02:15 COMMITTEE AND WORKING IN A
09:02:16 NUMBER OF OTHER CAPACITIES,
09:02:18 INCLUDING BEING A VERY LONGTIME
09:02:20 VETERANS TREATMENT COURT
09:02:22 MENTOR, AND MATT'S ALSO A GOOD
09:02:23 MAN AND A FRIEND.
09:02:24 SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE REMAIN
09:02:25 STANDING FOR THE PRAYER AND
09:02:27 REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
09:02:29 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:02:30 COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU ALL
09:02:32 FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS
09:02:32 MORNING.
09:02:34 THE LET US BOW OUR HEADS.
09:02:35 LORD, WE ARE GATHERED HERE
09:02:36 TODAY IN UNITY TO HELP LEAD OUR
09:02:36 CITY AND OUR CITIZENS INTO
09:02:37 TOMORROW.
09:02:39 WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS UPON US
09:02:40 AND OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS.
09:02:42 GIVE THEM GUIDANCE SO THAT WE
09:02:43 MAY MOVE FORWARD IN YOUR WAY
09:02:44 AND IN YOUR LIGHT.
09:02:45 WE ASK FOR YOUR PROTECTION FOR
09:02:46 OUR CIVIL SERVANTS, OUR POLICE,
09:02:48 FIRE, MILITARY, AND ELECTED
09:02:50 OFFICIALS, THAT THEY MAY SERVE
09:02:51 AND PROTECT US LIKE WE SERVE
09:02:52 YOU AND YOU PROTECT US.
09:02:55 LET US COME TOGETHER AT THIS
09:02:57 MORNING'S WITH UNITY AND JOINT
09:02:58 PURPOSE AND WORK TOGETHER IN
09:02:59 YOUR NAME AND IN YOUR HONOR TO
09:03:01 BETTER THIS GREAT CITY AND ITS
09:03:02 PEOPLE.
09:03:04 AMEN.
09:03:04 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:03:17 PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:03:23 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MONTHLY
09:03:24 REPORT FROM A CAC
09:03:24 REPRESENTATIVE.
09:03:27 PLEASE EXCUSE THE INFORMALITY,
09:03:29 BUT I KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN FOR A
09:03:29 LONG TIME.
09:03:35 I WORK WITH HIM ON THE YCDC,
09:03:35 YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT
09:03:35 CORPORATION.
09:03:37 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, TAKE ROLL CALL
09:03:38 FIRST.
09:03:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY.
09:03:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:03:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:03:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:03:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:03:51 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:03:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:03:54 NOW TIME FOR THE FORMALITY.
09:03:56 GRANT, ARE YOU READY TO GIVE US
09:03:58 A REPORT FOR THE YCDC?
09:03:59 >> YES, SIR.
09:04:11 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:04:12 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:04:14 >> HOW'S EVERYONE DOING THIS
09:04:14 MORNING?
09:04:15 >> VERY GOOD.
09:04:22 >> MY NAME IS GRANT MEHLICH.
09:04:23 I'M WITH THE YCDC.
09:04:24 I'VE BEEN WITH THIS STELLAR
09:04:26 ORGANIZATION NOW SINCE 2015,
09:04:28 AND IT'S AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE
09:04:29 TO BE ON THIS BOARD AND SERVE
09:04:32 THE COMMUNITY VIA CAC.
09:04:33 FIRST I WANT TO CONGRATULATE
09:04:35 EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ON
09:04:37 YOUR WELL-RUN CAMPAIGNS AND TO
09:04:39 OUR NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:04:40 WE REALLY DO LOOK FORWARD TO
09:04:42 WORKING WITH YOU, AND, ONCE
09:04:44 AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:04:46 REGARDING YBOR CITY, WHAT'S
09:04:48 GOING ON IN YBOR?
09:04:50 TO GO AHEAD AND CUT IT RIGHT TO
09:04:51 THE CHASE, GET RIGHT TO THE
09:04:53 CHASE, YBOR IS TRULY GOING
09:04:55 THROUGH A RENAISSANCE.
09:04:56 IT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING TO SEE
09:04:58 WHAT IS GOING ON, WHAT IS
09:05:00 HAPPENING IN YBOR, AND IT'S
09:05:02 JUST -- SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE
09:05:04 SINCE 2006, IT IS LITERALLY
09:05:05 NIGHT AND DAY.
09:05:08 YOU KNOW, THAT SAID, WE DO
09:05:10 STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO, AND
09:05:11 THERE'S LITTLE THINGS THERE,
09:05:13 BUT TO SAY YBOR IS RIGHT THERE,
09:05:15 RIGHT AT THE PRECIPICE OF EVEN
09:05:16 MORE GREATNESS, I'D SAY THAT
09:05:17 WE'RE CLOSE AND WE'RE RIGHT
09:05:17 THERE.
09:05:19 WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO GO
09:05:20 OVER SOME KEY TOPICS AND
09:05:23 ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE DID IN
09:05:25 ORDER FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND OR
09:05:26 EASILY UNDERSTAND FROM A FLOW
09:05:28 STANDPOINT -- I'VE BROKEN IT
09:05:29 DOWN BY PLANNING AND
09:05:31 DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY,
09:05:33 TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE,
09:05:36 OTHER KEY ACTIVITIES, OUTSIDE
09:05:38 ENGAGEMENTS, AND EVENTS.
09:05:39 WITH THAT SAID, LET'S BEGIN.
09:05:42 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
09:05:44 THE YBOR CITY VISION PLAN 2020
09:05:46 PROCESS HAS BEEN WELL UNDER WAY
09:05:48 SINCE MARCH WITH SEVERAL
09:05:48 COMMUNITY MEETINGS
09:05:49 ACCOMPLISHED.
09:05:54 VHB'S TEAM, LED BY NEALE
09:05:58 STRALOW, WILL COMPLETE THE
09:05:59 FIVE-YEAR COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN
09:06:03 BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
09:06:06 ON MAY 15th, WE WANT TO
09:06:06 PERSONALLY INVITE EACH AND
09:06:07 EVERY ONE OF YOU TO COME TO THE
09:06:09 CHILDREN'S BOARD FROM 5:30 TO
09:06:12 7:30, TO GO AHEAD AND YOU CAN
09:06:14 GET A GLIMPSE AS TO WHERE WE
09:06:15 FEEL THE COMMUNITY IS GOING IN
09:06:16 OUR VISION PLAN.
09:06:17 AS YOU KNOW, THE VISION PLAN IS
09:06:18 ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL BECAUSE IT
09:06:20 DOES GIVE US A ROAD MAP AND
09:06:22 SOMEWHAT OF A CRYSTAL BALL OF
09:06:23 WHAT THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME
09:06:24 FEELS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD
09:06:28 IN.
09:06:29 MASONITE INTERNATIONAL
09:06:33 ANNOUNCED THE EXPANSION OF
09:06:33 THEIR BUSINESS IN YBOR CITY AND
09:06:35 BROKE GROUND ON THE SECOND
09:06:37 BUILDING AT THE END OF LAST
09:06:37 YEAR.
09:06:43 MAOV YBOR, LLC, THE OWNER OF
09:06:44 THE HISTORIC SEIDENBERG CIGAR
09:06:44 FACTORY THAT IS NOW HOME TO
09:06:46 TRANSFERWISE, COMPLETED THEIR
09:06:48 WESTSIDE FACADE GRANT
09:06:49 IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THE
09:06:51 REPAIR OF THE DAMAGED CUPOLA
09:06:54 FROM THE 2001 CAMDEN APARTMENT
09:06:55 YBOR FIRE.
09:06:57 HOPEFULLY WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO
09:06:59 SEE ONE OF THOSE AGAIN.
09:07:00 THE YBOR HOTEL -- I THINK THIS
09:07:02 IS JUST AMAZING.
09:07:04 SO THE YBOR HOTEL IS UNDER
09:07:06 CONSTRUCTION AT 15th AND 7th,
09:07:07 AND THE PROJECT IS SET TO BE
09:07:08 COMPLETE DURING THE FIRST
09:07:09 QUARTER OF 2020.
09:07:10 CAN YOU BELIEVE IT, THAT
09:07:12 TAMPA'S GOING TO HAVE A
09:07:13 FOUR-STAR HOTEL AND IT'S GOING
09:07:15 TO BE RIGHT HERE IN YBOR CITY?
09:07:17 THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE
09:07:18 GROWTH AND EVERYTHING THAT WE
09:07:20 HAVE COME THROUGH, AND IT'S DUE
09:07:21 TO YOUR SUPPORT THAT WE'RE ABLE
09:07:23 TO SAY YBOR CITY NOW HAS A
09:07:24 FOUR-STAR HOTEL.
09:07:25 IT'S GOING TO BE INCREDIBLE.
09:07:29 IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.
09:07:29 APPROXIMATELY TEN COMPANIES
09:07:32 HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH STAFF,
09:07:34 WITH COURTNEY, BRENDA, AND
09:07:36 CORRINE, ABOUT POTENTIAL
09:07:38 LOCATIONS IN YBOR CITY.
09:07:42 THIS IS ALL POSITIVE ECONOMIC
09:07:43 DEVELOPMENT, NEWS, AND EFFORTS,
09:07:44 AND SO FAR FROM MY
09:07:45 UNDERSTANDING, THE ENGAGEMENTS
09:07:48 WITH THESE TEN VARIETY OF
09:07:49 COMPANIES HAS BEEN VERY WELL.
09:07:54 THEY WANT TO MAKE THEIR HOME
09:07:55 RIGHT HERE IN YBOR CITY IN
09:07:56 TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:07:58 STAFF WAS CONTINUING TO MEET
09:08:00 WITH TECO TO PLAN THE BEGINNING
09:08:01 OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS OF THE
09:08:05 7th AVENUE ALUMINUM ARCHWAY
09:08:07 LIGHT PROJECT THAT WILL REPLACE
09:08:08 WHAT IS CURRENTLY OVERHANGING
09:08:10 ON 7th AVENUE.
09:08:11 PUBLIC SAFETY.
09:08:13 STAFF IS WORKING CLOSE WITH
09:08:15 LYFT AND UBER FOR SAFETY
09:08:16 SOLUTIONS BY ESTABLISHING
09:08:19 SPECIFIC DROP-OFF AREAS THAT
09:08:21 HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THEIR
09:08:21 DRIVERS.
09:08:25 RIDESHARE SIGNS -- IF YOU'VE
09:08:29 SEEN, YOU'VE BEEN ON 16th, AND
09:08:30 THE VARIOUS SIDE STREETS,
09:08:32 RIDESHARE SIGNS HAVE BEEN
09:08:35 INSTALLED, AND REALLY THE WHOLE
09:08:36 METHODOLOGY AND IDEA ABOUT THIS
09:08:38 WAS PEDESTRIANS, WHEN THEY'RE
09:08:39 READY TO GO HOME, THEY KNOW
09:08:41 WHERE TO GO TO PICK UP THEIR
09:08:41 UBER.
09:08:43 WE THINK THAT WILL REDUCE
09:08:45 TRAFFIC, AND WE THINK IT WILL
09:08:47 PROMOTE A MORE POSITIVE, SAFER
09:08:50 ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
09:08:52 OUT OF COMMUNITY CONCERN, STAFF
09:08:53 IS WORKING WITH THE
09:08:56 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON
09:08:58 MULTI-WAY STOP STUDIES AT NORTH
09:09:02 20th AND EAST 4th AND EAST 5th,
09:09:04 AND EAST 5th AVENUE AT 17th
09:09:05 STREET.
09:09:07 THAT LITTLE POCKET AREA IN YBOR
09:09:08 CITY, A LOT OF NEW HOMES ARE
09:09:11 ACTUALLY BEING BUILT, A LOT OF
09:09:12 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE BEING
09:09:13 BUILT, SO WE FEEL THERE'S GOING
09:09:15 TO BE A NEED FOR STOP SIGNS
09:09:16 THERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
09:09:20 BIGGER OVERALL THEME IS THAT AS
09:09:24 I'VE TOLD COURTNEY, IT'S AT THE
09:09:25 MINUTE THAT YOUNG FAMILIES WANT
09:09:27 TO MOVE TO YBOR, YOUNG MOMS
09:09:29 WANT TO ROLL THEIR STROLLERS
09:09:31 DOWN 7th AVENUE, THAT'S HOW YOU
09:09:32 KNOW WE'VE HIT THE PROMISE
09:09:34 LAND, SO THAT'S WHY WE FEEL
09:09:36 PUTTING IN THESE STOP SIGNS IT
09:09:37 WILL HELP THESE SINGLE-FAMILY
09:09:39 HOMES AND, AGAIN, ALLOW THE
09:09:45 DIVERSITY OF YBOR TO FLOURISH.
09:09:48 WE APPRECIATED HOMELESS OFFICER
09:09:50 RANDI WHITNEY.
09:09:51 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T
09:09:53 KNOW, RANDI WHITNEY IS --
09:09:55 BESIDES AN INCREDIBLE HUMAN
09:09:56 BEING, SHE WAS OUR HOMELESS
09:09:59 LIAISON OFFICER, AND SHE WAS
09:10:00 JUST INCREDIBLE.
09:10:02 SHE RECENTLY MOVED ON WITHIN
09:10:04 TPD DOING OTHER WORK.
09:10:05 IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY HUGE LOSS
09:10:07 FOR US, BUT HER REPLACEMENT
09:10:09 OFFICER, HALEY, HAS BEEN DOING
09:10:11 AN INCREDIBLE JOB, AND WE ARE
09:10:12 VERY EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH
09:10:14 HER AS WELL.
09:10:15 YCDC STAFF, BUSINESS, AND
09:10:16 LANDOWNERS ARE WORKING CLOSELY
09:10:19 WITH TPD TO RESPOND TO DISTRICT
09:10:21 COMPLAINTS OF WEEKLY POP-UP
09:10:23 PARTIES ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF
09:10:23 THE DISTRICT.
09:10:25 WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES
09:10:29 THERE, AND WE FEEL THAT WORKING
09:10:31 WITH TPD, WE'RE FINALLY GETTING
09:10:34 SOME TRACTION AS TO HOW TO STOP
09:10:35 THESE POP-UP PARTIES FROM
09:10:37 HAPPENING.
09:10:38 WE'VE ALSO HAD TO WORK WITH THE
09:10:40 LANDOWNERS, THE PROPERTY
09:10:41 OWNERS, TO GET THEIR SUPPORT
09:10:44 ONBOARD, AND WE NOW FEEL WE'RE
09:10:45 MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
09:10:47 TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
09:10:49 IN ADDITION, THERE IS A
09:10:50 DISRUPTIVE GROUP ON THE WESTERN
09:10:53 SIDE OF THE DISTRICT RIGHT IN
09:10:54 FRONT OF 7-ELEVEN.
09:10:58 WE ARE WORKING WITH TPD AND
09:10:59 ALSO LEGAL, WITH CITY COUNCIL,
09:11:02 ON HOW TO REMEDY THAT
09:11:03 SITUATION.
09:11:05 WE FEEL IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE
09:11:08 A BAD SITUATION, AND WE WANT --
09:11:09 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO
09:11:11 TAKE CARE OF.
09:11:13 TRANSPORTATION.
09:11:14 GOD, CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT OUR
09:11:15 STREETCAR IS DOING?
09:11:17 WE ARE EXPERIENCING A
09:11:20 SKYROCKETING STREETCAR
09:11:21 RIDERSHIP SINCE FREE FARES
09:11:23 STARTED LAST OCTOBER.
09:11:25 IT IS JUST AMAZING TO SEE THESE
09:11:26 STREETCARS ARE FILLED
09:11:28 CONSTANTLY ON THE WEEKENDS, AND
09:11:33 IT'S -- I THINK IT'S REALLY
09:11:35 GOOD WHERE WE'RE HEADED AT WITH
09:11:36 MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION
09:11:38 WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:11:41 STAFF COORDINATED WITH FDOT FOR
09:11:42 ELECTRIC MESSAGES ON THE BOARDS
09:11:44 ON THE INTERSTATE TO ALERT AND
09:11:46 REMIND DRIVERS THAT THERE SHALL
09:11:49 BE NO TRUCK TRAFFIC ON 21st AND
09:11:49 22nd.
09:11:51 RECENTLY, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, A
09:11:54 FUEL -- HUGE FUEL GALLON TRUCK
09:11:55 ROLLED OVER AND HIT ONE OF
09:11:58 RICHARD GONZMART'S PROPERTIES.
09:12:00 THANK GOD IT DID NOT COME BUST,
09:12:02 BUT, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO
09:12:05 WHEN WE SET UP THE 21st/22nd
09:12:07 STREET CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, WE
09:12:09 MADE IT MANDATORY THAT NO
09:12:10 TRUCKS SHALL BE ALLOWED, AND
09:12:13 THAT'S A PERFECT INCIDENT WHY
09:12:14 NO TRUCKS SHALL BE ON
09:12:16 21st/22nd.
09:12:17 THEY CAN TAKE THE BYPASS FROM
09:12:21 I-4 OVER THE LEE ROY SELMON,
09:12:22 AND, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING WE
09:12:24 WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE VIGILANT
09:12:25 ABOUT, THERE'S NO TRUCKS ON
09:12:29 21st/22nd.
09:12:31 INFRASTRUCTURE.
09:12:33 THE 7th AVENUE GATEWAY ARCH BY
09:12:37 THE NUCCIO PARKWAY AND THE PALM
09:12:38 AVENUE MONUMENT REPAIRS AND
09:12:40 REGROUTING WERE RECENTLY
09:12:41 COMPLETED.
09:12:43 DISTRICT TREE, GRATE CLEANING,
09:12:46 PAINTING, AND REPLACEMENTS ARE
09:12:47 COMPLETE.
09:12:48 STAFF CONTINUES TO WORK WITH
09:12:49 MANY DEPARTMENTS ON
09:12:50 DISTRICTWIDE MANAGEMENT, WHICH
09:12:55 INCLUDES OPERATIONAL, SERVICE,
09:12:56 DEMANDS, INFRASTRUCTURE
09:12:57 PROJECTS, SPECIAL EVENTS
09:12:59 COORDINATION, PERMITTING, AND
09:13:02 CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUES.
09:13:04 AND IF I COULD, JUST TO GO OFF
09:13:05 AND SAY SOMETHING, THE LADIES
09:13:08 WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICE, BRENDA,
09:13:10 COURTNEY, AND CORRINE, THEY
09:13:11 REALLY MADE MY JOB INCREDIBLY
09:13:14 EASY, AND THEY'RE REALLY THE
09:13:15 UNSUNG HEROES IN KEEPING US
09:13:17 WORKING AND RUNNING
09:13:18 EFFICIENTLY.
09:13:20 OTHER KEY ACTIVITIES.
09:13:22 LAW & LAW HOLDINGS WAS APPROVED
09:13:27 AS THE NEW CONTRACTOR FOR THE
09:13:29 YBOR ENVIRONMENTAL YES TEAM.
09:13:30 ALREADY WE'RE SEEING A POSITIVE
09:13:32 IMPACT THAT THEY ARE MUCH MORE
09:13:33 DETAIL ORIENTED AND THE
09:13:35 DISTRICT IS ALREADY STARTING TO
09:13:36 CLEAN UP A LOT.
09:13:38 THE CENTENNIAL PARK SOUND
09:13:40 SYSTEM IS OPERATING 12 HOURS A
09:13:42 DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK PLAYING
09:13:44 MUSIC APPROPRIATE FOR YBOR'S
09:13:44 ENVIRONMENT.
09:13:46 IN COORDINATION WITH THE ARTS
09:13:47 DEPARTMENT, A SOUND PROJECT
09:13:50 DEPICTING SOUNDS OF YBOR IN THE
09:13:53 LATE 1800s AND EARLY 1900s WILL
09:13:56 TRANSMIT DAILY THROUGH THE NEW
09:13:57 SYSTEM FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
09:13:59 I IMPLORE YOU COME OUT IN THE
09:14:01 MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND COME WALK
09:14:02 AND LISTEN TO IT.
09:14:03 IT'S ACTUALLY -- IT'S JUST
09:14:04 REALLY INCREDIBLE THAT WE NOW
09:14:05 HAVE MUSIC IN THE PARK, IN
09:14:07 CENTENNIAL PARK.
09:14:09 OUTSIDE ENGAGEMENT.
09:14:12 STAFF PROVIDED AN YBOR
09:14:13 DEVELOPMENT UPDATE TO VISIT
09:14:15 TAMPA BAY AND HOTEL BOOKING
09:14:16 AGENTS TO ASSIST WITH THEIR
09:14:17 RECRUITING EFFORTS.
09:14:19 WE FEEL THAT IS POSSIBLE
09:14:20 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT, A LOT
09:14:22 OF THESE AGENTS, THEY DON'T
09:14:23 EVEN CONSIDER YBOR.
09:14:24 BY GETTING THEM ON THE RADAR
09:14:26 AND MAP, WE FEEL THIS IS GOING
09:14:28 TO BE POSITIVE FOR AN ECONOMIC
09:14:29 DEVELOPMENT IN LIEU OF A NEW
09:14:31 HOTEL COMING AND THE
09:14:33 RENAISSANCE OF YBOR THAT IS
09:14:35 OCCURRING.
09:14:37 YCDC KICKED OFF A SPRING PHOTO
09:14:39 CONTEST IN AN EFFORT TO BUILD
09:14:41 ON ITS IMAGE LIBRARY THAT
09:14:43 PROMOTES YBOR AND INSPIRES THE
09:14:44 ARTS.
09:14:45 IT'S JUST A REALLY NEAT
09:14:46 PROJECT, AND I THINK WHAT MAKES
09:14:49 IT SO NEAT IS IF YOU RECALL A
09:14:51 YEAR AGO, SOMEONE IN THE CITY
09:14:51 OF TAMPA FOUND PICTURES FROM
09:14:54 OVER 100 YEARS AGO THAT WERE
09:14:55 JUST KIND OF PUT AWAY IN AN
09:14:57 ARCHIVE, AND, YOU KNOW, 100
09:14:59 YEARS FROM NOW SOMEBODY MAY GO
09:15:00 AHEAD AND FIND THESE SAME
09:15:03 PICTURES, AND IT'S JUST -- I
09:15:04 THINK IT'S PRETTY NEAT TO HOLD
09:15:07 CONTESTS LIKE THAT, AND ALSO,
09:15:09 IT ENGAGES THE COMMUNITY.
09:15:11 STAFF PROVIDED YBOR TOURS TO
09:15:12 PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS
09:15:14 THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, ONE OF
09:15:15 WHICH RECENTLY PROVIDED FOR THE
09:15:17 AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF
09:15:19 ARCHITECTS.
09:15:21 EVENTS.
09:15:22 WE HAD -- OUT OF THE FEW EVENTS
09:15:25 THAT WE HOSTED, WE HAD NEARLY
09:15:27 OVER 115,000 PEOPLE ATTEND
09:15:28 THESE EVENTS.
09:15:29 NOW, THINK ABOUT THAT.
09:15:32 THAT IS A MASSIVE NUMBER.
09:15:34 SOME OF THESE EVENTS INCLUDE
09:15:37 THE KREWE OF SANTIAGO NIGHT
09:15:40 PARADE; JAMES E. ROOSTER
09:15:43 PARADE, WHICH IF YOU'VE NEVER
09:15:44 BEEN, IT'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF
09:15:46 FUN; ROUGH RIDERS ST. PATRICK'S
09:15:49 DAY PARADE; TAMPA PRIDE PARADE,
09:15:52 WHICH, I SPOKE TO CARRIE WEST.
09:15:53 HE'S SAYING NOW THAT WE ARE THE
09:15:55 SECOND OR THIRD LARGEST PRIDE
09:15:56 FESTIVAL IN THE UNITED STATES
09:15:58 -- IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
09:16:02 WHICH IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
09:16:04 CUBAN SANDWICH FESTIVAL HAD
09:16:06 OVER 5,000 ATTENDEES.
09:16:08 FIESTA ITALIANA WEEKEND HAD
09:16:10 OVER 15,000 ATTENDEES.
09:16:13 FOUNDER'S DAY CUSTOM CAR SHOW,
09:16:15 I BELIEVE OVER 200 CARS WERE
09:16:20 SET UP ON SHOP AT 7th AVENUE.
09:16:21 IT WAS PRETTY NEAT TO SEE ALL
09:16:23 THESE OLD CUSTOM CARS LINED UP.
09:16:25 IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, PEOPLE
09:16:26 JUST WALKED DOWN THE STREETS,
09:16:27 LOOKED AT CARS, AND IT WAS
09:16:28 REALLY NEAT.
09:16:30 FOUNDERS DAY -- OR I'M SORRY,
09:16:33 LIONS EYE RACE FOR SIGHT, ABOUT
09:16:36 1500 MARATHONERS CAME AND DID A
09:16:39 5D AND 10K.
09:16:41 RYAN'S RUN, APPROXIMATELY 500
09:16:42 PEOPLE.
09:16:44 AND THEN FOURTH FRIDAY TAMPA,
09:16:45 THAT'S A RELATIVELY NEW
09:16:46 PROJECT, AND WE'RE WORKING ON
09:16:48 THAT.
09:16:51 IN CLOSING -- AND I MEAN THIS
09:16:52 WITH EVERYTHING I SAY -- FROM
09:16:53 THE YCDC AND FROM THE RESIDENTS
09:16:57 OF YBOR, FROM THE STAFF AT
09:16:58 YBOR, WE WANT TO PRAISE AND
09:17:00 COMMEND THIS CITY COUNCIL FOR
09:17:03 HELPING US ON TWO VERY
09:17:04 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PROJECTS
09:17:06 FOR US.
09:17:08 NUMBER ONE, RECENTLY YOU GUYS
09:17:09 VOTED TO APPROVE THE RECENT
09:17:11 HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY
09:17:13 TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATIONS
09:17:15 RELATIVE TO RESTORATION,
09:17:18 RENOVATION, OR REHABILITATION
09:17:21 OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 915
09:17:24 NORTH AVENIDA REPUBLICA DE CUBA
09:17:28 AND 1902 NORTH AVENIDA
09:17:32 REPUBLICA DE CUBA.
09:17:34 WE CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH
09:17:34 THAT HAS MEANT TO US IN HELPING
09:17:35 US WITH THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
09:17:36 THESE PROPERTIES WERE NOT IN
09:17:37 GOOD SHAPE, AND NOW WE FEEL
09:17:39 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO NEW
09:17:41 BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES, AND, ONCE
09:17:42 AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU,
09:17:43 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, FOR
09:17:44 HELPING US WITH THAT.
09:17:47 FINALLY, IN CLOSING, THAT -- IN
09:17:49 SUMMARY, THAT IS MY REPORT.
09:17:50 THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME THAT
09:17:52 I WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU, AS
09:17:54 MY TIME WILL BE ROLLING OFF
09:17:55 HERE PRETTY SHORTLY, BUT I
09:17:58 WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING, IS
09:17:59 SOMEBODY RECENTLY ASKED ME, YOU
09:18:01 KNOW, LIKE, WHAT'S THE TOUGHEST
09:18:04 PART OF THIS JOB.
09:18:05 I SAY, WELL, IN GENERAL, IT'S
09:18:08 ACTUALLY PRETTY EASY, BUT WHAT
09:18:09 I WILL SAY IS, MAN, MISSING
09:18:11 THAT GUY JOE CITRO, I DON'T
09:18:13 KNOW HOW WE'RE EVER GOING TO BE
09:18:14 ABLE TO FILL THAT VOID.
09:18:15 [LAUGHTER]
09:18:16 COUNCIL, THAT IS THE END OF MY
09:18:18 REPORT, AND I STAND FOR ANY
09:18:19 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
09:18:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COUNCIL
09:18:23 MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
09:18:24 >> JUST A FEW COMMENTS.
09:18:25 FIRST, ON THE FOUR-STAR HOTEL
09:18:27 THAT'S GOING IN, I'M GLAD TO
09:18:28 SEE THAT BECAUSE IT FILLS IN
09:18:30 THE GAPS ALONG 7th AVENUE.
09:18:32 BUILDINGS WERE DEMOLISHED, SOME
09:18:33 BURNED, YOU KNOW, TO FIRE AND
09:18:34 WHATNOT, ESPECIALLY ON THE
09:18:37 OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET
09:18:39 LIKE THE BLUE RIBBON AND NEXT
09:18:40 DOOR TO THE 7-ELEVEN, THOSE
09:18:42 PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN VACANT
09:18:43 SINCE.
09:18:44 WHAT'S MOST SITING AND WHERE
09:18:46 THAT HOTEL IS GOING IS YOU HAVE
09:18:47 A LEGITIMATE TRANSIT STOP RIGHT
09:18:49 THERE.
09:18:49 THE STREETCAR STOPS RIGHT
09:18:51 BEHIND IT, AND WITH ALL THE
09:18:52 GROWTH, YOU CALL IT THE YBOR
09:18:53 RENAISSANCE, BUT THE
09:18:54 RENAISSANCE IS GOING ALL INTO
09:18:56 DOWNTOWN, WATER STREET AND
09:18:57 EVERYTHING, YOU'RE GOING TO
09:18:58 HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
09:18:59 TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WITH THE
09:19:01 FREE FARES OR SUSPENDED FARES
09:19:02 FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
09:19:03 RIDERSHIP IS UP.
09:19:04 I MEAN, I TAKE THE STREETCAR AS
09:19:05 MUCH AS I CAN FROM WHITING
09:19:07 STATION TO YBOR, AND THE
09:19:08 STREETCAR IS USUALLY PACKED.
09:19:10 YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART,
09:19:11 IT'S PACKED TO MAXIMUM
09:19:12 CAPACITY.
09:19:13 NOW, DO YOU KNOW IF IN THAT
09:19:16 HOTEL -- THAT PROPERTY HAD A
09:19:17 RESTAURANT CALLED LAS
09:19:17 NOVEDADES.
09:19:18 DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY
09:19:19 PLANS TO -- BECAUSE I HEARD
09:19:20 THEY WERE GOING TO REOPEN THE
09:19:21 RESTAURANT IN SOME WAY IN THAT
09:19:22 HOTEL.
09:19:23 DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT
09:19:23 OR NO?
09:19:25 >> I DO NOT.
09:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:19:28 I HEARD ABOUT IT A WHILE AGO
09:19:29 AND I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY
09:19:32 FOLLOW-UP.
09:19:32 >> WELL, THAT'S WHY -- THAT'S
09:19:33 THE SAME THING.
09:19:34 I DID HEAR ABOUT IT WHEN IT WAS
09:19:35 FIRST MENTIONED, BUT I CAN FIND
09:19:39 OUT FOR YOU.
09:19:40 THAT'S STILL THE PLAN.
09:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WERE THERE
09:19:42 TUNNELS THAT WERE DISCOVERED ON
09:19:43 THAT PROPERTY?
09:19:44 >> WERE THERE TUNNELS
09:19:46 DISCOVERED ON THAT PROPERTY?
09:19:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, WAS
09:19:48 IT THERE WHERE THEY DISCOVERED
09:19:48 --
09:19:49 >> NO, I THINK IT WAS ONE
09:19:50 PARCEL OVER.
09:19:51 IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT
09:19:52 PROPERTY.
09:19:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:19:54 THANK YOU.
09:19:55 >> THE LAST THING I DID HEAR IS
09:19:57 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A
09:19:58 ROOFTOP AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN
09:20:00 COME OUTSIDE AND HAVE LUNCH AND
09:20:02 DRINKS AND SO FORTH, AND I
09:20:02 THINK THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE
09:20:05 REALLY COOL.
09:20:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:20:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
09:20:07 GUDES.
09:20:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU,
09:20:08 MR. CHAIR.
09:20:11 TELL ME ABOUT THE HOMELESS
09:20:11 LIAISON OFFICER.
09:20:12 IS THAT A PARTIAL THAT YOU'RE
09:20:13 PAYING WITH YOUR FUNDS WITH THE
09:20:14 CITY OR IS THE CITY PROVIDING
09:20:15 THAT?
09:20:18 >> FOR THE HOMELESS LIAISON?
09:20:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:20:21 >> I BELIEVE -- AREN'T WE
09:20:22 PAYING THAT?
09:20:22 >> [OFF MICROPHONE].
09:20:27 >> NO, IT'S CITYWIDE, IT IS
09:20:28 BEING PAID BY THE CITY.
09:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO YOUR CRA
09:20:32 ISN'T PAYING ANYTHING FOR THE
09:20:33 HOMELESS LIAISON?
09:20:34 >> COURTNEY?
09:20:35 NO, WE'RE NOT.
09:20:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TELL ME ABOUT
09:20:38 THE 7-ELEVEN, WHAT'S GOING ON
09:20:40 THERE, AND ALSO THOSE POP-UP
09:20:41 PARTIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
09:20:42 EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.
09:20:45 >> SO WE'RE HAVING -- THE
09:20:47 7-ELEVEN -- WE'VE WRITTEN THEM
09:20:50 LETTERS BEFORE ASKING THEM TO
09:20:52 PLEASE NOT ALLOW VAGRANTS TO
09:20:54 SIT IN FRONT OF YOUR STORE AND
09:20:56 COLLECT CHANGE AND GO IN AND
09:20:57 BUY CIGARETTES AND BLAH, BLAH,
09:20:58 BLAH, BLAH.
09:21:00 WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES THERE
09:21:01 WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T
09:21:03 SEEM TO BE GETTING THE MESSAGE.
09:21:05 IT'S ALMOST -- I BELIEVE THAT
09:21:06 THEY WANT THE VAGRANTS THERE
09:21:08 BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING IN TO
09:21:10 BUY CIGARETTES AND SO FORTH.
09:21:13 WE HAVE HAD, IN DISCUSSIONS AT
09:21:17 OUR BOARD MEETINGS, THAT WE
09:21:19 WOULD LIKE TO START TAKING
09:21:20 STRONGER ACTION AGAINST THIS,
09:21:22 BUT KEEP IN MIND WE DID
09:21:25 DISCOVER FROM LEGAL, I BELIEVE,
09:21:27 THAT IT'S -- AND DUE TO A
09:21:29 RULING FROM A FEDERAL COURT,
09:21:30 THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE
09:21:31 CAN DO, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT
09:21:33 THE THING AS TRYING TO GET THE
09:21:35 PROPERTY OWNER ONBOARD, SAYING,
09:21:36 HEY, YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR
09:21:39 MANAGEMENT THAT THESE PEOPLE --
09:21:40 WE WOULD PREFER THAT THESE
09:21:41 PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
09:21:43 LOITER BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE
09:21:46 IN FRONT OF CENTRO, IT'S RIGHT
09:21:49 WHERE A LOT OF FAMILIES ATTEND,
09:21:50 IT'S RIGHT WHERE A LOT OF
09:21:52 VISITORS ATTEND, AND IT'S -- IT
09:21:53 HURTS US.
09:21:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO IT'S NOT
09:21:58 THE IMPACT FROM THE STORE, IT
09:22:00 LOOKS LIKE AN EYESORE FOR
09:22:01 TOURISTS, BASICALLY?
09:22:03 >> IT LOOKS LIKE AN EYESORE,
09:22:04 AND, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE OUT
09:22:05 TRYING TO HAVE LUNCH, YOU KNOW,
09:22:07 WITH YOUR WIFE AND YOUR CHILD
09:22:08 AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COME UP
09:22:11 AND, YOU KNOW, PANHANDLING, YOU
09:22:12 KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU
09:22:13 REALLY -- DOES THAT MAKE THAT
09:22:16 LUNCH EXPERIENCE SO MUCH, YOU
09:22:18 KNOW, NICER THAT YOU JUST WANT
09:22:20 TO, OH, I'M GOING TO GO DO THAT
09:22:22 AGAIN TOMORROW, HERE, I'LL EVEN
09:22:23 BRING 50 CENTS?
09:22:24 THAT'S THE POINT THAT I'M
09:22:25 GETTING AT.
09:22:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I TAKE YOUR
09:22:28 POINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN,
09:22:28 THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO
09:22:30 CONTROL, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
09:22:33 CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND PUT A
09:22:34 STRONG-ARM ON PEOPLE, SO WE
09:22:35 HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS
09:22:36 WELL.
09:22:36 >> CORRECT.
09:22:38 WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OUT IS THAT
09:22:39 IF WE GET THE PROPERTY OWNER TO
09:22:41 SIGN A TRESPASS WARRANT, NOW
09:22:44 TPD IS LEGALLY ABLE TO REMOVE
09:22:46 THESE INDIVIDUALS.
09:22:48 THAT'S THE -- THAT'S WHAT WE
09:22:52 FOUND HAS BEEN SUCCESSIVE OR
09:22:54 SUCCESSFUL, BUT RIGHT NOW THE
09:22:56 OWNERS OF 7-ELEVEN JUST DO NOT
09:23:00 SEEM TO WANT TO BE GOOD
09:23:02 NEIGHBORS.
09:23:03 THAT SAID, WE HAVE NOT BEEN AS
09:23:05 AGGRESSIVE WITH THEM AS WHAT'S
09:23:07 COMING UP IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE
09:23:08 I KNOW THEY'LL BE GETTING A
09:23:13 LITTLE LOVE LETTER SOON, AND WE
09:23:14 CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.
09:23:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TELL ME ABOUT
09:23:16 THE POP-UP.
09:23:17 YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT POP-UP
09:23:19 PARTIES OR POP-UP GATHERINGS?
09:23:20 WHAT IS THAT?
09:23:21 >> SURE.
09:23:23 SO THIS IS -- AS JOE CAN TELL
09:23:24 YOU, ONE THING THAT DRIVES ME
09:23:26 CRAZY IS IF THERE'S A PROBLEM,
09:23:27 AND I THINK IT CAN BE A SERIOUS
09:23:29 PROBLEM, IS I WANT TO TAKE CARE
09:23:30 OF IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE,
09:23:30 RIGHT NOW.
09:23:32 FOR OVER A YEAR WE WORKED WITH
09:23:37 TPD ON THESE POP-UP PARTIES,
09:23:39 AND WHAT WAS GOING ON IS,
09:23:40 BASICALLY, AROUND 2:00 A.M.,
09:23:43 YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WOULD SAVE A
09:23:45 TEXT SAYING, OH, HEY, GO TO
09:23:47 THIS LOCATION ON 7th AVENUE.
09:23:49 I THINK ONE OF THEM WAS CALLED
09:23:51 THE BROADWAY BAR, I THINK THAT
09:23:52 MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE
09:23:53 AREAS.
09:23:54 COME TO THIS LOCATION AND
09:23:55 EVERYONE JUST COME, IT'S A
09:23:56 POP-UP PARTY.
09:23:58 THERE WAS ONE NIGHT WE HAD 300
09:23:59 VEHICLES OUT THERE.
09:24:01 I WENT AND PERSONALLY WALKED IT
09:24:03 MY OWN, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF
09:24:05 UNDERAGE DRINKING, THERE WAS A
09:24:08 LOT OF DRUG USE GOING ON, AND
09:24:09 IT JUST -- IT SHOULDN'T BE
09:24:11 TAKING PLACE, NOR SHOULD IT BE
09:24:12 HAPPENING.
09:24:15 THE FINALLY, STARTING ABOUT A
09:24:16 MONTH AND A HALF AGO, WE
09:24:17 STARTED GETTING TRACTION FROM
09:24:21 TPD STRONGLY ENFORCING IT, AND
09:24:23 HOW WE DID THAT WAS, IS WE WENT
09:24:24 TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND
09:24:25 REMINDED THEM THAT IF IT
09:24:27 HAPPENS ON YOUR PREMISES,
09:24:29 YOU'RE LIABLE, AND SO THAT KIND
09:24:32 OF WOKE A FEW PEOPLE UP, AND
09:24:33 THE POP-UP PARTIES SEEM TO BE
09:24:37 DECREASING.
09:24:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M FAMILIAR
09:24:39 WITH THE BROADWAY BAR.
09:24:42 IT'S AN AFRICAN AMERICAN BAR,
09:24:43 AND THEY DO HAVE TRAFFIC, BUT
09:24:45 WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SAID IN
09:24:47 REFERENCE TO THAT BAR IS THAT,
09:24:48 YOU KNOW, YBOR KIND OF STOPS
09:24:52 RIGHT THERE AT 22nd STREET.
09:24:55 >> TECHNICALLY IT'S 26th.
09:24:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TECHNICALLY,
09:24:58 BUT, ACTUALLY, ALL OF OUR
09:24:58 DEVELOPMENT HAS REALLY STOPPED
09:25:01 AT 22nd, SO HOPEFULLY IN THE
09:25:02 FUTURE THAT MAYBE WE CAN GO A
09:25:04 LITTLE PAST THAT AND WE CAN
09:25:06 HELP THOSE FOLKS PAST THAT
09:25:07 BECOME BETTER IN THEIR BUSINESS
09:25:09 PRACTICES, GIVE THEM MAYBE SOME
09:25:11 HELP WITH SOME GRANTS OR SOME
09:25:13 FACADE TO HELP THAT EASTERN
09:25:13 PORTION.
09:25:14 SOMETIMES WHEN WE LEND A
09:25:16 HELPING HAND TO PEOPLE, THEY
09:25:18 TEND TO DO BETTER, THINGS TEND
09:25:20 TO HAPPEN, EVERYBODY GETS A
09:25:21 PIECE OF THE PIE.
09:25:21 >> SURE.
09:25:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE HAVE TO
09:25:25 LOOK AT THAT ASPECT INSTEAD OF
09:25:26 JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO
09:25:28 STRONGHOLD THE POLICE, THEN,
09:25:28 BECAUSE OF A POP-UP.
09:25:29 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN UNDERAGE
09:25:31 DRINKING, I DON'T BELIEVE IN
09:25:32 ANY VIOLENCE, BUT SOMETIMES WE
09:25:33 HAVE TO BE PART OF THE
09:25:34 SOLUTION, NOT JUST SAY THERE'S
09:25:36 A PROBLEM, SO HOPEFULLY THE
09:25:37 YCDC CAN HELP WITH THAT
09:25:38 SITUATION IN A MORE PROACTIVE
09:25:42 RESPECT WITH A MORE ECONOMIC
09:25:43 IMPACT WITH IT.
09:25:43 >> SURE.
09:25:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALSO, TELL ME
09:25:46 ABOUT THE TRUCKS.
09:25:49 I'M NEW TOO, SO TELL ME ABOUT
09:25:52 THE TRUCKS ON 21st/22nd BECAUSE
09:25:54 21st GOES SOUTH AND 22nd GOES
09:25:56 NORTH, SO TELL ME ABOUT THE
09:25:57 TRUCKS BECAUSE THAT'S A MAJOR
09:25:58 THOROUGHFARE FOR THE
09:25:59 INTERSTATE.
09:25:59 >> SURE.
09:26:00 WHEN THE FLYOVER AND THE
09:26:04 CROSSOVER OCCURRED, THE LEE ROY
09:26:06 SELMON, YOU KNOW, CONNECTED I-4
09:26:08 TO THE LEE ROY SELMON WHICH
09:26:11 WOULD EVENTUALLY PIGGYBACK DOWN
09:26:13 TO ADAMO, IT WAS AGREED SINCE
09:26:14 WE CLOSED DOWN THE LANES FROM
09:26:15 THREE TO TWO THAT THAT ROUTE
09:26:17 WOULD NO LONGER BE A
09:26:18 THOROUGHFARE FOR TRUCKS.
09:26:20 THE FDOT AGREED, THE CITY
09:26:24 AGREED, SO ESSENTIALLY ONCE
09:26:25 THAT FLYOVER WAS BUILT -- AND I
09:26:28 THINK OVER $110 MILLION WAS
09:26:30 SPENT JUST FOR THIS FLYOVER
09:26:32 JUST TO REMOVE TRUCKS -- THE
09:26:34 RULE IS THAT NO TRUCKS CAN GO
09:26:35 DOWN THERE.
09:26:36 THE REASON WHY IS IT WAS BEING
09:26:40 SO HEAVILY USED, IT WAS --
09:26:41 BUILDINGS WERE BEING CRASHED
09:26:43 INTO, AND, AGAIN, WE ALMOST HAD
09:26:45 A VERY SERIOUS INCIDENT WHERE A
09:26:48 GAS TANKER ROLLED OVER AND
09:26:50 ALMOST BLEW UP ONE OF RICHARD'S
09:26:51 PROPERTIES, SO THAT'S THE WHOLE
09:26:55 POINT IS TO GET THE TRUCKS OFF
09:26:58 OF A -- YOU KNOW, YBOR IS THE
09:27:00 MOST PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY AREA
09:27:01 WITHIN ALL OF THE CITY OF
09:27:01 TAMPA.
09:27:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD AGREE.
09:27:04 >> SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING
09:27:04 TO GET THAT ENFORCED.
09:27:06 I WROTE A LETTER RECENTLY TO
09:27:08 FDOT AND TO TPD, AND THEY DID
09:27:10 RESPOND BACK AND THEY SAID THEY
09:27:11 WILL BE GETTING ON IT AND
09:27:13 ENFORCING IT MORE.
09:27:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY LAST
09:27:15 QUESTION, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME,
09:27:17 MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT ABOUT
09:27:17 MINORITY BUSINESS?
09:27:19 HOW ARE WE COMING ALONG WITH
09:27:20 ATTRACTING MINORITY BUSINESSES
09:27:21 DOWN IN YBOR?
09:27:23 >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW.
09:27:24 DUE TO PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, I
09:27:26 CAN'T SAY WHICH ONES, BUT WE DO
09:27:28 HAVE -- OUT OF THE TEN NEW
09:27:30 BUSINESSES I SPOKE ABOUT, FOUR
09:27:32 OF THEM ARE MINORITY-OWNED
09:27:34 BUSINESSES THAT ARE TALKING
09:27:35 WITH US ABOUT SETTING UP SHOP
09:27:36 IN YBOR.
09:27:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I HOPE
09:27:38 SO.
09:27:39 I MEAN, YBOR'S A THRIVING
09:27:41 PLACE, IT'S A GOOD ECONOMIC
09:27:42 ENGINE DOWN THERE, AND I KNOW A
09:27:43 LOT OF MINORITY BUSINESSES HAVE
09:27:45 BEEN INQUIRING, BUT I KNOW IT'S
09:27:46 KIND OF HIGH DOWN THERE WITH
09:27:48 THE RENT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF
09:27:49 THERE'S SOME PROGRAMS WE CAN
09:27:50 HAVE TO HELP SOME OF THOSE
09:27:51 MINORITY ENTREPRENEURS TO GET
09:27:53 DOWN IN YBOR, SO I'M HOPING IN
09:27:54 THE FUTURE WE CAN DO THAT.
09:27:55 >> SURE.
09:27:56 THE ONE THING IN YBOR, SIR, AND
09:27:59 I'M SURE AS YOU KNOW, 100 YEARS
09:28:01 AGO YBOR WAS FILLED WITH -- IT
09:28:02 WAS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO
09:28:04 IMMIGRATED HERE, IT WAS
09:28:07 GERMANS, ITALIANS, CUBANS,
09:28:08 SPANISH, AND AT THAT TIME IT'S
09:28:09 -- THEY ALL WORKED TOGETHER TO
09:28:12 CREATE A COMMUNITY, AND IT'S
09:28:14 FUNNY NOW, IF YOU FAST FORWARD,
09:28:17 YOU KNOW, 120 YEARS NOW, THAT
09:28:19 FABRIC THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN OUR
09:28:20 COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYONE WORKS
09:28:22 TOGETHER AS A WHOLE, I DON'T
09:28:25 THINK IT'S CHANGED, SO I THINK
09:28:28 IT'S THAT OUR ANCESTORS, REALLY
09:28:29 -- THEY LAID -- THEY PUT THE
09:28:31 FABRIC IN YBOR AND ESSENTIALLY
09:28:33 PUT IT ALL IN US TO WHERE WE
09:28:34 ALL WORK TOGETHER.
09:28:35 ONE EXAMPLE IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
09:28:37 IF ONE OF THE TAVERNS OR
09:28:39 RESTAURANTS, IF THEY'RE BEING,
09:28:42 YOU KNOW, OVERWHELMED AND THEY
09:28:43 NEED PICTURES OR CHAIRS OR
09:28:44 SOMETHING AND THEIR NEXT-DOOR
09:28:45 COMPETITOR HAS NO BUSINESS,
09:28:47 THAT NEXT-DOOR BUSINESS WILL
09:28:50 SAY, HEY, YEAH, YOU NEED MORE
09:28:51 CHAIRS AND PICTURES, LET ME
09:28:52 HELP YOU OUT.
09:28:53 IT'S STUFF LIKE THAT THAT
09:28:55 REALLY MAKES YBOR CITY A
09:28:56 BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY IN AND OUT.
09:28:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
09:28:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. DINGFELDER.
09:28:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,
09:28:59 MR. CHAIR.
09:29:02 NO, ACTUALLY, MR. GUDES HIT MY
09:29:03 QUESTION IN REGARD TO THE
09:29:05 21st/22nd, AND WE'RE LUCKY
09:29:06 ENOUGH TO HAVE D.O.T. FOLKS
09:29:08 HERE, AND AS A SIDELINE TO
09:29:09 THEIR OTHER CONVERSATION,
09:29:11 PERHAPS WE CAN CHAT WITH THEM
09:29:14 AS WELL, WE CAN GET A -- THANK
09:29:15 YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:29:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
09:29:17 CARLSON.
09:29:18 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK
09:29:18 COMMENT.
09:29:20 I'M SO BULLISH ON YBOR THAT I'M
09:29:21 MOVING MY COMPANY THERE FROM
09:29:22 DOWNTOWN.
09:29:24 WE'RE WAITING ON PERMITS, BUT
09:29:25 AS SOON AS EVERYTHING'S DONE,
09:29:26 YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE
09:29:27 MOVING THERE.
09:29:28 WE'RE MOVING TO 7th AVENUE,
09:29:30 WHICH FIVE YEARS AGO
09:29:33 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FIRMS, I
09:29:34 THINK, WOULDN'T HAVE REALLY
09:29:35 CONSIDERED DOING, BUT I THINK
09:29:36 IT'S -- IT'S CONVERTING TO
09:29:38 REALLY THE -- THE THIRD
09:29:40 BUSINESS DISTRICT OF TAMPA, AND
09:29:42 IT ALSO IS BECOMING AND
09:29:44 EMERGING AS THE CREATIVE AND
09:29:45 INNOVATION DISTRICT OF TAMPA.
09:29:47 YOU LOOK AT THE THOUSANDS OF
09:29:48 I.T. JOBS THAT ARE THERE, THE
09:29:50 HUNDREDS, AT LEAST, OF CREATIVE
09:29:51 JOBS, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH
09:29:54 DEANNE ROBERTS AS AN EARLY
09:29:57 INNOVATOR 10, 15 YEARS AGO.
09:29:58 LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING
09:30:00 THERE, AND WE SAW THE
09:30:01 RENAISSANCE OF YBOR IN THE
09:30:03 '90s, AND THEN THE CONVERGENCE
09:30:05 TO A BAR DISTRICT AND THE BAR
09:30:06 SCENE AND ENTERTAINMENT SCENE
09:30:08 IS GREAT, BUT WE HAVE THIS
09:30:09 EMERGING VITALITY THAT'S VERY
09:30:11 SIMILAR TO DOWNTOWN ST. PETE,
09:30:12 AND IT IS BASED ON THE FABRIC
09:30:13 THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, AND IT'S
09:30:15 DRAWING CREATIVE WORKERS AND
09:30:16 CREATIVE PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE,
09:30:18 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
09:30:20 PARTNERING WITH YOU WITH MY
09:30:21 COMMUNITY HAT ON, MY BUSINESS
09:30:24 HAT ON, TO MAKE YBOR CITY EVEN
09:30:26 MORE DYNAMIC AND TO DEFINE THE
09:30:27 NEXT BRAND AND EVOLUTION OF IT
09:30:28 IN THE FUTURE.
09:30:29 >> EXCELLENT, AND THANK YOU FOR
09:30:30 YOUR SUPPORT, SIR.
09:30:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
09:30:33 QUESTIONS?
09:30:33 ALL RIGHT.
09:30:35 GRANT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
09:30:39 THIS WONDERFUL REPORT.
09:30:40 COUNCILMEN, I STRONGLY
09:30:42 RECOMMEND THAT YOU VISIT THE
09:30:43 YCDC BOARD MEETINGS.
09:30:44 THEIR MEETINGS ARE ON THE
09:30:47 FOURTH TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
09:30:49 >> AT 4:00.
09:30:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT 4:00.
09:30:51 IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE, AND I
09:30:52 HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING SIX
09:30:53 YEARS WITH THE YCDC, AND I SEE
09:30:54 THE GREAT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
09:30:56 DONE IN YBOR CITY.
09:30:58 AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT, YOU
09:31:01 CAN GO TO THE WEST TAMPA CRA
09:31:02 CDC MEETING.
09:31:03 GRANT, WOULD YOU PLEASE
09:31:05 RECOGNIZE THE WOMAN THAT'S
09:31:06 BEHIND YOU.
09:31:08 >> THIS IS COURTNEY.
09:31:10 SHE IS THE -- STAND UP,
09:31:13 COURTNEY.
09:31:15 COURTNEY ORR.
09:31:16 SHE IS THE MANAGER OF YBOR
09:31:18 CITY, AND SHE POINTS ME IN THE
09:31:18 RIGHT DIRECTION.
09:31:20 [LAUGHTER]
09:31:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ORR, THANK
09:31:22 YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK YOU DO.
09:31:23 >> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.
09:31:24 >> THANK YOU.
09:31:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:29 I LOVE MY JOB AND GRANT.
09:31:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY
09:31:30 MUCH, GRANT.
09:31:30 >> GREAT.
09:31:36 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
09:31:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. McDONAUGH,
09:31:38 YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US?
09:31:42 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I DO.
09:31:42 GOOD MORNING.
09:31:46 BOB McDONAUGH, ECONOMIC
09:31:46 DEVELOPMENT CRAs.
09:31:48 FIRST, I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS
09:31:50 I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, ONE OF
09:31:52 WHICH IS THE HOUSE BILL NO. 9,
09:31:52 WHICH IS PROVISIONS REQUIRING
09:31:57 CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS TO
09:31:58 CRAs.
09:31:59 THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL
09:32:01 ATTEMPTS OVER THE YEARS TO MAKE
09:32:03 SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO HOW CRAs
09:32:04 OPERATE, AND THANKFULLY, WE
09:32:06 HAVE ALREADY PROACTIVELY TAKEN
09:32:08 MANY OF THE STEPS THAT THE
09:32:11 STATE HAS LOOKED FOR.
09:32:13 CRAs MUST SUBMIT AN ANNUAL
09:32:14 BUDGET TO THE COUNTY WITHIN TEN
09:32:14 DAYS.
09:32:16 WE SUBMIT OUR BUDGETS.
09:32:17 AMENDMENTS TO BUDGETS MUST ALSO
09:32:20 BE SUBMITTED; ELIMINATES THE
09:32:22 REQUIREMENT THAT BUDGETED FUNDS
09:32:23 BE SPENT WITHIN THREE YEARS.
09:32:25 THIS IS ALWAYS SOMETHING WE'VE
09:32:27 KEPT OUR BE EYE ON TO MAKE SURE
09:32:29 THE MONEY IS USED EFFECTIVELY.
09:32:31 REQUIRES ALL CRA SUNSET ON THE
09:32:33 EARLY OF THE TERMINATION DATE
09:32:35 OR SEPTEMBER 30th, 2039.
09:32:36 TERMINATION DATE MAY BE
09:32:38 EXTENDED BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY
09:32:40 VOTE OF THE COUNTY OR CITY THAT
09:32:41 CREATED THE CRA.
09:32:43 PERMITS TO GOVERNING BODY WHICH
09:32:45 ADOPTS THE ORDINANCE; PROVIDING
09:32:46 FOR THE FUNDING OF THE TRUST
09:32:47 FUND MAY REDUCE THE
09:32:48 CONTRIBUTION OF EACH TAXING
09:32:50 AUTHORITY BELOW 95% BUT NOT
09:32:51 BELOW 50%.
09:32:52 WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE
09:32:54 COUNTY, DEPENDING ON WHICH CRA
09:32:56 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH
09:32:59 ACTUALLY DOES THAT.
09:33:01 BEGINNING MARCH 1st, 2020, AND
09:33:03 ANNUALLY THEREAFTER, EACH CRA
09:33:05 MUST FILE WITH THE CITY OR
09:33:06 COUNTY THAT CREATED IT LISTED
09:33:08 PERFORMANCE STATUS, ANNUAL
09:33:10 REPORT REQUIREMENTS, ANNUAL
09:33:12 AUDIT, WHICH THE AUDIT MUST
09:33:14 SPECIFICALLY OPINE THAT ALL
09:33:15 EXPENDITURES MEET THE
09:33:16 BUDGETING, REPORTING, AND LEGAL
09:33:18 REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE.
09:33:20 WE ALREADY HAVE ANNUAL AUDIT OF
09:33:22 OUR SPENDING, SO WE'RE ALREADY
09:33:23 COMPLYING WITH THAT.
09:33:24 TOTAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS
09:33:25 STARTED, COMPLETED, AND
09:33:26 ESTIMATED COST.
09:33:28 WE ACTUALLY LIST OUR PROJECTS.
09:33:30 TOTAL AMOUNT EXPENDED ON
09:33:31 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:33:33 WE DO EXPEND MONEY ON
09:33:34 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:33:36 WE DO NOT DOCUMENT THAT IN OUR
09:33:37 REPORT, AND WE WILL DO THAT
09:33:38 MOVING FORWARD.
09:33:39 ASSESSMENT OF WHETHER CRA HAS
09:33:41 ACHIEVED THE GOALS OF ITS
09:33:43 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
09:33:49 AS MR. TERRITO WILL TELL YOU,
09:33:50 THE DEFINING OR THE CONTROLLING
09:33:53 DOCUMENT IS EACH OF THE CRA
09:33:55 DISTRICTS, THEIR STRATEGIC
09:33:56 ACTION PLAN, AND WHEN YOU ASK
09:33:58 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CAN THIS
09:34:00 BE DONE OR CAN THAT BE DONE,
09:34:01 THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS THE SAME,
09:34:03 WHAT DOES THE PLAN SAY?
09:34:05 AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THAT
09:34:06 SEVERAL OF THE CRAs ARE
09:34:07 ACTUALLY UPDATING THEIR PLANS
09:34:09 BECAUSE AS TIME GOES ON,
09:34:11 THEY'VE ACHIEVED A LOT OF
09:34:13 MILESTONES, THEY HAVE NEW
09:34:15 MEMBERS, AND THEY'D LIKE TO DO
09:34:16 DIFFERENT THINGS WITHIN THE
09:34:18 CRAs, SO THAT STRATEGIC ACTION
09:34:19 PLAN IS THE BLUEPRINT FOR WHAT
09:34:25 GOES ON.
09:34:26 THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES, WHICH
09:34:28 IS CONTAINED IN ALL OF OUR
09:34:29 REPORTS.
09:34:31 ORIGINAL ASSESSED PROPERTY
09:34:33 VALUES ON THE CREATION DATE,
09:34:34 THAT IS IN OUR REPORTS.
09:34:36 TOTAL ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES
09:34:38 AS OF JANUARY 1st OF THE
09:34:41 REPORTING YEARS, WE GIVE AN
09:34:44 UPDATE ON ANNUAL BASIS BASED ON
09:34:44 THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S
09:34:45 REPORT.
09:34:47 BY JANUARY 20th -- JANUARY 1st,
09:34:50 2020, EACH CRA MUST PUBLISH ON
09:34:51 ITS DIGITAL WEBSITE A MAP OF
09:34:52 ALL BOUNDARIES AND TOTAL
09:34:53 ACREAGE.
09:34:54 THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE
09:34:57 SINCE THE BEGINNING.
09:34:58 POST ANNUAL REPORT TO THE
09:34:59 WEBSITE, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT
09:35:00 WE COMPLY WITH.
09:35:01 FILE ANNUAL REPORT WITH THE
09:35:02 COUNTY AND THE STATE, WE SEND
09:35:03 IT TO ALL OF OUR TAXING
09:35:06 JURISDICTIONS.
09:35:07 ANNUAL PROVISIONS THAT WE
09:35:09 ALREADY DO, PROVIDES THAT CRAs
09:35:11 EXPEND FUNDS ONLY PURSUANT TO
09:35:13 ANNUAL BUDGET ADOPTED BY THE
09:35:15 CRA BOARD, A PROCESS THAT WE
09:35:16 FOLLOW.
09:35:19 ETHICS TRAINING FOR CRA BOARD.
09:35:20 AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU
09:35:22 ALL ALREADY RECEIVE ETHICS
09:35:23 TRAINING, AND SO YOU HAVE
09:35:25 RECEIVED THAT.
09:35:25 CRA MUST USE THE PROCUREMENT
09:35:28 PROCESSES OF THE CITY.
09:35:29 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE
09:35:31 ALWAYS FOLLOWED.
09:35:32 OUR PROVISIONS THAT DO NOT
09:35:34 AFFECT US, TERMINATION OF CRAs
09:35:36 THAT HAVE BEEN INACTIVE FOR SIX
09:35:36 YEARS.
09:35:39 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY INACTIVE
09:35:40 CRAs.
09:35:42 CRAs TERMINATED WITH DEBT MAY
09:35:43 CONTINUE TO COLLECT REVENUE TO
09:35:44 PAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE
09:35:44 DEBT.
09:35:46 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY THAT HAVE
09:35:48 BEEN TERMINATED WITH EXISTING
09:35:48 DEBT.
09:35:50 SO THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN
09:35:51 CONCERNED WITH THE ACTIVITIES
09:35:55 OF A LOT OF CRAs BASED ON
09:35:57 SHORTFALLS OR LACK OF
09:35:57 TRANSPARENCY, AND IT'S
09:36:00 SOMETHING THAT OUR ORGANIZATION
09:36:02 HAS ALWAYS FOLLOWED WITH THE
09:36:04 DIRECTION OF OUR CRA BOARD.
09:36:07 SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO REPORT
09:36:08 THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF NEW
09:36:09 RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT NONE
09:36:12 OF THEM MAKE A MARKED CHANGE IN
09:36:14 THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS BECAUSE
09:36:16 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
09:36:17 ALREADY BEEN DONE.
09:36:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
09:36:20 MANISCALCO.
09:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WOULD
09:36:21 YOU AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT
09:36:23 THAT TAMPA IS THE GOLD STANDARD
09:36:24 WHEN IT COMES TO CRAs?
09:36:25 [LAUGHTER]
09:36:27 BECAUSE I HEAR -- NO, NO.
09:36:28 FROM EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID,
09:36:28 YOU KNOW, FROM THE LEGISLATURE,
09:36:30 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF
09:36:31 CRITICISM BECAUSE OTHER
09:36:33 MUNICIPALITIES AND WHATNOT MAY
09:36:35 HAVE ISSUES, BUT WE RUN
09:36:36 EVERYTHING AS IT SHOULD.
09:36:39 I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS TO THE
09:36:40 BOOK.
09:36:41 I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- THE
09:36:43 CITY OF TAMPA IS AN EXAMPLE FOR
09:36:44 THE REST OF THE STATE OF HOW A
09:36:47 CRA SHOULD BE MANAGED AND RUN.
09:36:47 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I THINK THE
09:36:49 FACT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO
09:36:52 MAKE ANY CHANGES BASED ON
09:36:52 CHANGES SUGGESTED BY THE
09:36:54 FLORIDA IT LEGISLATURE OR
09:36:56 MANDATED BY THE LEGISLATURE, I
09:36:57 THINK, SPEAKS TO THAT, THE FACT
09:36:59 THAT WE ALREADY HAD THESE
09:37:00 CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE,
09:37:02 SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH
09:37:03 THE FACT THAT WE DO RUN A
09:37:05 TRANSPARENT OPERATION --
09:37:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE.
09:37:08 >>BOB McDONAUGH: -- AND THAT
09:37:10 THE TAXPAYER, GOING ONLINE, CAN
09:37:11 AUTOMATICALLY FOLLOW WHAT'S
09:37:12 GOING ON.
09:37:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
09:37:14 THANK YOU.
09:37:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
09:37:18 QUESTIONS?
09:37:19 IT IS THAT JUST AN
09:37:21 INTRODUCTION, BOB, OR ARE YOU
09:37:21 CONTINUING WITH --
09:37:22 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I HAVE A
09:37:23 COUPLE OTHER THINGS TO TALK
09:37:25 ABOUT.
09:37:26 >> OKAY.
09:37:27 I'LL WAIT.
09:37:27 >>BOB McDONAUGH: AGAIN, I'D
09:37:29 LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
09:37:29 PROGRAMS WE DO.
09:37:30 WE HAVE SOME NEW COUNCIL
09:37:32 MEMBERS OR ACTUALLY A COUNCIL
09:37:34 MEMBER THAT IS NOT EXACTLY NEW
09:37:36 BUT HAS HAD A HIATUS.
09:37:38 ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO
09:37:39 TALK ABOUT IS OUR -- SOMETHING
09:37:41 THAT'S VERY VISIBLE AND
09:37:43 POPULAR, OUR CRA COMMERCIAL
09:37:44 FACADE GRANT PROGRAM.
09:37:46 IT'S ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD.
09:37:48 WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 2009.
09:37:51 IT'S IN YBOR 1 AND 2, EAST
09:37:53 TAMPA, DREW PARK, AND WEST
09:37:54 TAMPA, AND DOWNTOWN JUST
09:37:55 RECENTLY ADDED THAT.
09:37:58 WE'VE AWARDED 101 GRANTS SINCE
09:38:02 NOVEMBER OF 2009, $3,189,175
09:38:05 TOTAL GRANT FUNDS WERE AWARDED,
09:38:11 $12,189,877 OF PRIVATE SECTOR
09:38:14 INVESTMENT IN THOSE PROPERTIES,
09:38:16 SO A 4:1 LEVERAGE, SO THE
09:38:18 INTENTION IS TO IMPROVE OUR
09:38:19 NEIGHBORHOODS, IMPROVE THE
09:38:20 VALUE OF PROPERTIES, AND WE
09:38:22 FEEL THIS HAS BEEN A VERY
09:38:23 SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM FOR THAT.
09:38:25 SO HERE'S SOME OF OUR GOALS TO
09:38:26 IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE
09:38:27 BUILDING AND PROPERTY, AND,
09:38:28 AGAIN, ALL OF THESE WERE CHOSEN
09:38:32 HIGHLY VISIBLE CORRIDORS WITHIN
09:38:37 OUR COMMUNITIES.
09:38:39 SO AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S THE
09:38:44 TOTAL NUMBERS AS OF APRIL 2019.
09:38:46 HERE'S AN EXAMPLE IN YBOR CITY,
09:38:50 A BEFORE PICTURE.
09:38:51 AFTER PICTURE.
09:38:54 OBVIOUSLY, A VERY DRAMATIC --
09:38:55 7th AVENUE IS ONE OF THE
09:38:56 CORRIDORS THAT'S IMPORTANT.
09:38:58 IT'S HIGHLY VISIBLE.
09:39:00 IT'S A RETAIL CORRIDOR, AND SO
09:39:02 THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT
09:39:08 LEVERAGED MONEY WORKS.
09:39:12 AGAIN, A BEFORE-AND-AFTER.
09:39:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. McDONAUGH,
09:39:26 THIS IS IN DREW PARK?
09:39:27 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT'S DREW
09:39:28 PARK, CORRECT.
09:39:29 I BELIEVE THAT'S HILLSBOROUGH
09:39:33 AVENUE.
09:39:40 GOT TO GET THEM TO WORK ON THAT
09:39:43 SIGN, BUT ...
09:39:50 ANOTHER YBOR PROPERTY.
09:40:05 THIS IS DALE MABRY, DREW PARK.
09:40:23 EAST TAMPA.
09:40:32 AGAIN, THAT'S NEBRASKA.
09:40:34 THE IT'S QUITE THE POPULAR
09:40:34 DEVELOPMENT.
09:40:36 THIS IS AN EAST TAMPA
09:40:36 DEVELOPMENT.
09:40:38 THEY ADDED A RESTAURANT AND AN
09:40:39 OUTDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH
09:40:41 HAS BECOME VERY POPULAR WITH
09:40:43 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:40:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. McDONAUGH,
09:40:46 THESE ARE ALL MATCHING GRANTS?
09:40:47 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THEY HAVE TO
09:40:49 MATCH AT LEAST WHAT WE DO, BUT
09:40:50 IF YOU SAW THAT NUMBER, IT'S
09:40:51 ACTUALLY -- THE LEVERAGE IS
09:40:54 MORE LIKE 4:1, SO WE NOT ONLY
09:40:57 USE PUBLIC FUNDS FOR THIS THAT
09:40:59 WERE GENERATED IN THAT
09:41:01 MARKETPLACE, BUT THE FOLKS THAT
09:41:02 ARE DOING IT ARE THEN REQUIRED
09:41:04 TO MATCH IT WITH AT LEAST A
09:41:08 1:1, BUT IN MANY CASES, IT'S
09:41:14 2:- AND 3:- AND 4:1.
09:41:14 >> THANK YOU.
09:41:16 I TAKE IT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE
09:41:18 FACADES BUT NOT THE SHUFFLE
09:41:18 BOARD COURT?
09:41:19 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT'S
09:41:20 CORRECT.
09:41:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
09:41:22 CARLSON.
09:41:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I RECENTLY WAS
09:41:25 GIVEN A WALKING TOUR OF WEST
09:41:26 TAMPA WITH SOME
09:41:27 PRESERVATIONISTS, AND THEY HAD
09:41:29 A CONCERN THAT -- THEY SPOKE
09:41:31 HIGHLY OF THIS PROGRAM BUT HAD
09:41:33 A CONCERN THAT SOME OF THE
09:41:34 DEVELOPERS EITHER DIDN'T KNOW
09:41:35 ABOUT IT OR IT WASN'T PROMOTED
09:41:37 ENOUGH TO THEM, AND MAYBE WE
09:41:38 CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFFLINE.
09:41:39 AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS
09:41:41 THAT THEY FELT LIKE IN THE
09:41:43 HISTORIC AREAS THAT -- THAT
09:41:44 SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS WEREN'T
09:41:46 BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO
09:41:48 RESTORE THE FACADES BACK TO
09:41:50 THEIR ORIGINAL CONDITIONS, JUST
09:41:52 TO PASS THAT ON, AND WE CAN
09:41:53 TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.
09:41:54 BUT AT LEAST IN THE HISTORIC
09:41:56 AREAS, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT
09:41:56 PROGRAM.
09:41:57 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT'S AN
09:41:58 INTERESTING COMMENT BECAUSE
09:42:00 TODAY YOU'LL SEE A GRANT ON
09:42:02 MAIN STREET, AND THE VERY
09:42:05 PURPOSE OF IT IS TO RESTORE THE
09:42:07 FACADE OF A HISTORIC BUILDING
09:42:10 BACK TO HISTORIC STANDARDS,
09:42:11 BRINGING WINDOWS BACK AND
09:42:13 AWNINGS OF A BUILDING,
09:42:15 REPOINTING BRICK THAT REMOVED
09:42:17 STUCCO FROM IT.
09:42:19 AGAIN, IT'S A BRAND-NEW PROGRAM
09:42:20 IN THAT DISTRICT, IT STARTED
09:42:22 LAST MONTH, AND WE HAVE -- THE
09:42:23 FIRST ONE WAS AWARDED LAST
09:42:24 MONTH AND THE SECOND ONE WILL
09:42:26 BE THIS MONTH, AND BOTH OF THEM
09:42:27 ON MAIN STREET.
09:42:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THOSE
09:42:30 ARE THE ONES THEY SHOWED ME.
09:42:31 ANYWAY, THANK YOU, AND IT
09:42:32 SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO DO A
09:42:33 LOT OF GREAT THINGS FOR THE
09:42:34 MAIN STREET AREA.
09:42:35 >>BOB McDONAUGH: WE'LL GAIN
09:42:37 TRACTION ONCE PEOPLE SEE THE
09:42:39 ACTUAL PROCESS.
09:42:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
09:42:43 DINGFELDER.
09:42:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:42:46 MR. McDONAUGH, THANK YOU FOR
09:42:49 ALL YOU AND YOUR STAFF DO.
09:42:52 THE -- YOU MENTIONED AFFORDABLE
09:42:54 HOUSING.
09:42:56 YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CURIOUS --
09:42:58 AND WE, PERHAPS, CAN COME BACK
09:43:00 ANOTHER DAY WITH A MORE
09:43:02 COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
09:43:07 I DON'T REALLY ASSOCIATE OUR --
09:43:09 US AND AS THE CRA, YOU KNOW,
09:43:11 WITH A WHOLE LOT OF AFFORDABLE
09:43:12 HOUSING ACTIVITIES.
09:43:17 I KNOW THE CITY HAS AN
09:43:20 AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT,
09:43:21 AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE
09:43:22 DEALING WITH THAT IN THE NEAR
09:43:24 FUTURE, BUT HOW ABOUT THE CRAs,
09:43:26 ANY PARTICULAR PROJECTS JUMP
09:43:28 OUT --
09:43:30 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THE METRO 510.
09:43:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY?
09:43:33 >>BOB McDONAUGH: METRO 510,
09:43:35 WHICH IS A WORKFORCE HOUSING
09:43:36 PROGRAM IN DOWNTOWN.
09:43:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WAS OUR
09:43:39 INVOLVEMENT THERE?
09:43:40 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THE MATCHING
09:43:42 MONEY THAT WAS REQUIRED FOR
09:43:45 THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THE
09:43:47 LEVERAGE FOR THE TAX INCREMENT
09:43:49 FINANCING WAS PROVIDED BY THE
09:43:49 DOWNTOWN CRA.
09:43:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT A
09:43:52 GUARANTEE, A FINANCIAL
09:43:52 GUARANTEE OR --
09:43:52 >>BOB McDONAUGH: NO, IT WAS
09:43:53 ACTUALLY -- WE HAD TO PROVIDE
09:43:54 $100,000 FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO
09:43:56 -- IT WAS A LOCAL MATCH AND
09:43:57 ALLOWED THEM TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR
09:43:59 STATE FUNDING.
09:43:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND HOW MANY
09:44:00 UNITS IS THAT?
09:44:02 >>BOB McDONAUGH: ABOUT 180.
09:44:03 AND TWO OF THE BUILDINGS IN
09:44:05 ENCORE WHERE THE MONEY ACTUALLY
09:44:07 CAME THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE
09:44:09 CRA AS THE MATCH THAT WAS
09:44:10 REQUIRED TO QUALIFY.
09:44:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WHAT
09:44:13 SORT OF FINANCIAL INVOLVEMENT
09:44:14 OR COMMITMENT WAS THAT?
09:44:15 >>BOB McDONAUGH: AGAIN, SIMILAR
09:44:18 TO THAT, THE $100,000 MATCH,
09:44:20 AND I'M QUITE SURE THAT WE'LL
09:44:22 BE ASKED THE SAME IN WEST TAMPA
09:44:24 AS WELL AS WEST RIVER MOVES
09:44:24 ALONG.
09:44:26 AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE THAT
09:44:27 THERE ARE ACTUALLY FIVE
09:44:30 BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW THAT THE
09:44:31 CITY HAS PROVIDED MATCH MONEY
09:44:35 THROUGH OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT,
09:44:37 AND THAT -- APPROXIMATELY
09:44:41 $500,000 PLUS, I THINK, $3
09:44:44 MILLION SOLIDIFIED $121 MILLION
09:44:45 IN FINANCING FOR THE FIVE
09:44:47 BUILDINGS IN THE WEST RIVER
09:44:48 PROJECT.
09:44:49 THERE HAVE BEEN --
09:44:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S --
09:44:52 THAT'S EXCELLENT FOR US TO BE
09:44:53 ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, USE OUR --
09:44:55 SOME OF OUR MONEY AND OUR
09:44:57 POSITION TO HELP WITH THE
09:45:03 LEVERAGING OF THOSE PROJECTS.
09:45:08 I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CRA -- I
09:45:10 MEAN, THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL
09:45:13 OPINION, ONE OF SEVEN -- THE
09:45:16 CRAs, THE VARIOUS CRAs, GET
09:45:17 DEEPER INVOLVED IN AFFORDABLE
09:45:19 HOUSING, NOT ONLY ON THE LARGE
09:45:21 SCALE BUT ALSO ON THE
09:45:22 INDIVIDUAL SCALE.
09:45:24 >>BOB McDONAUGH: AND ACTUALLY,
09:45:25 THERE ARE SEVERAL RIGHT NOW
09:45:27 WORKING ON PLANS WITH THAT,
09:45:28 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS IN WEST
09:45:30 TAMPA, SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS IN
09:45:32 EAST TAMPA, AGAIN, TRYING TO
09:45:34 DEVELOP THEM TO -- WITH A PRICE
09:45:36 POINT THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE
09:45:37 ENTIRE MARKET.
09:45:42 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES RIGHT
09:45:44 NOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT
09:45:45 TITLE, THERE'S FEDERAL MONEY
09:45:47 FOR THAT, BUT FOR THAT PLACE
09:45:48 BETWEEN THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
09:45:50 LOT OF MONEY AND THE PEOPLE WHO
09:45:52 DON'T, THAT'S THE DIFFICULT ONE
09:45:53 TO MATCH UP WITH.
09:45:56 YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT WITH THE
09:45:59 NEHEMIAH PROJECT IN SULPHUR
09:46:00 SPRINGS.
09:46:01 CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP
09:46:03 8% TO 10% A YEAR.
09:46:05 IT'S A DIFFICULT DEAL TO TRY TO
09:46:07 MATCH THE NORMAL HOUSEHOLD
09:46:13 THAT'S AT 115% OR 120% OR 125%
09:46:15 IN OUR AREA AVERAGE INCOME FOR
09:46:16 THEM TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD, AND
09:46:18 SO THAT'S -- I THINK THAT'S A
09:46:21 PLACE THAT WE CAN WORK ON
09:46:25 MEETING THAT -- WE HAVE DOWN
09:46:27 PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WHICH WE CAN
09:46:28 MATCH WITH THE CITY THAT
09:46:30 PROVIDES UP TO $15,000 FOR
09:46:33 FOLKS, SO I THINK WE NEED
09:46:35 PROBABLY TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
09:46:36 MATCHING OUR EFFORTS ALONG WITH
09:46:38 OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT, WHICH
09:46:39 WE ARE WORKING WITH NOW.
09:46:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
09:46:41 I -- AND I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU
09:46:44 KNOW, BE ESTABLISHING SPECIFIC
09:46:44 GOALS.
09:46:46 I MENTIONED THAT AT OUR MEETING
09:46:49 LAST WEEK IN TERMS OF, YOU
09:46:51 KNOW, HOUSING UNITS THAT THE
09:46:53 CRA CAN, YOU KNOW, TAKE PRIDE
09:46:55 IN AND SAY WE -- YOU KNOW, OUR
09:46:59 GOAL IS 250 UNITS IN ANY
09:47:00 PARTICULAR CRA OR SOMETHING
09:47:03 LIKE THAT AND ESPECIALLY EAST
09:47:04 TAMPA COMES TO MIND.
09:47:10 I THINK THERE'S A GREAT NEED
09:47:12 THERE, AND PERHAPS DREW PARK AS
09:47:13 WELL.
09:47:18 BUT ANYWAY, MAYBE LATER IN THE
09:47:19 SUMMER YOU CAN COME BACK AND
09:47:21 GIVE US A MORE THOROUGH REPORT
09:47:23 ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CRA,
09:47:25 AND LIKE I SAY, WE CAN START
09:47:27 ESTABLISHING SOME GOALS FOR
09:47:29 NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER IN
09:47:29 TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT TO
09:47:32 ACHIEVE AND WORK WITH THE
09:47:35 ADVISORY COUNCILS ON THAT.
09:47:36 >>BOB McDONAUGH: MM-HMM.
09:47:37 I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
09:47:38 THANK YOU.
09:47:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
09:47:39 GUDES.
09:47:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU,
09:47:41 MR. DINGFELDER, FOR MENTIONING
09:47:43 EAST TAMPA, WHICH I KNOW VERY,
09:47:44 VERY WELL.
09:47:46 YOU KNOW, MY PROBLEM IS THAT
09:47:48 THE CITY HAS A LOT OF PROPERTY,
09:47:50 VACANT LOTS, ABANDONED HOUSES
09:47:54 ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND I DON'T
09:47:55 UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T HAVE A
09:47:58 TASK FORCE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT
09:48:00 LOOKING AT WHAT PROPERTIES THE
09:48:01 CITY DOES HAVE AVAILABLE AND
09:48:03 FINDING NOT THE BIG GUYS BUT
09:48:05 THE LITTLE GUYS WHO CAN START
09:48:06 BUILDING UP.
09:48:08 WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS
09:48:10 THAT ARE DILAPIDATED THAT WE
09:48:12 NEED TO FIND SMALL DEVELOPERS,
09:48:14 GIVE SOME INCENTIVES TO GET
09:48:15 SOME UNITS IN SOME OF THOSE OLD
09:48:17 BUILDINGS.
09:48:18 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE --
09:48:20 WE'RE NOT MOVING.
09:48:22 WE'RE MOVING LIKE A SMALL
09:48:24 TURTLE INSTEAD OF A HARE, AND
09:48:25 THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME FROM
09:48:28 YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR.
09:48:30 WE SHOULD HAVE A TASK FORCE
09:48:32 BEING ASSEMBLED OUT OF YOUR
09:48:34 DEPARTMENT FOCUSED ON THAT,
09:48:36 FINDING EVERY PROPERTY WITHIN
09:48:37 THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION,
09:48:38 WORKING WITH THEM, AND ALSO
09:48:40 EVERY BUILDING, BECAUSE THERE
09:48:42 ARE HUGE BUILDINGS IN EAST
09:48:44 TAMPA, ALL OVER THE CITY, THAT
09:48:46 ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED, JUST
09:48:47 SITTING THERE FALLING APART, SO
09:48:49 I'M LOOKING FOR SOME EXCITING
09:48:49 THINGS.
09:48:51 I KNOW THIS BOARD ON THE
09:48:52 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, THEY ALL HAVE
09:48:54 HEARD ABOUT HOUSING, SO I DON'T
09:48:55 THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE
09:48:57 WITH GETTING SUPPORT FROM THIS
09:48:59 COUNCIL ABOUT HOUSING, SO WE
09:49:01 NEED TO FORM A TASK FORCE FROM
09:49:04 YOUR DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE --
09:49:07 TO REALLY DEVELOP A PLAN, AND I
09:49:09 CONCUR WITH MR. DINGFELDER,
09:49:10 WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN
09:49:12 BECAUSE, TO ME, WE DON'T HAVE
09:49:13 ONE RIGHT NOW.
09:49:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
09:49:17 QUESTIONS FOR MR. McDONAUGH?
09:49:18 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THANK YOU.
09:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU DON'T
09:49:20 NEED A SPECIFIC MOTION ON THAT,
09:49:21 DO YOU, BOB?
09:49:22 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I DO NOT.
09:49:24 THANK YOU.
09:49:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,
09:49:27 MR. McDONAUGH, FOR YOUR REPORT.
09:49:29 THE NOW IT'S TIME FOR OUR ITEM
09:49:30 NO. 3, OUR QUARTERLY REPORT
09:49:32 FROM FDOT.
09:49:33 >> OKAY.
09:49:35 COUNCIL MEMBERS, FIRST OF ALL,
09:49:38 CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU
09:49:39 FOR ALLOWING US TO COME PRESENT
09:49:40 TO YOU TODAY.
09:49:42 THIS -- WE'VE BEEN COMING TO
09:49:43 THIS BOARD FOR QUITE A LONG
09:49:45 TIME MAKING PRESENTATIONS, AND,
09:49:47 UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THE NEW
09:49:48 MEMBERS MAY OR MAY NOT BE
09:49:49 FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE THINGS
09:49:51 I'M GOING TO PRESENT, BUT IF
09:49:53 THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I
09:49:54 DON'T COVER OR THINGS THAT YOU
09:49:56 DO WANT US TO COME BACK AND
09:49:57 PRESENT, PROVIDE SOME MORE
09:50:02 BACKGROUND, THIS IS A
09:50:02 CULMINATION OF A TREMENDOUS
09:50:04 AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN
09:50:06 GOING ON, I WOULD SAY, OVER THE
09:50:07 LAST THREE YEARS, BUT THAT
09:50:08 DOESN'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY.
09:50:10 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE
09:50:11 1991, THIS PROCESS, SO IF
09:50:12 THERE'S INFORMATION THAT I'M
09:50:14 NOT PRESENTING TODAY OR THAT
09:50:15 YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION
09:50:17 ON, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO
09:50:20 PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.
09:50:22 SO FIRST, LET ME ADDRESS THE
09:50:26 22nd -- 22nd/21st STREET
09:50:27 PROJECT.
09:50:29 MR. MEHLICH WAS CORRECT WHEN HE
09:50:30 SAID THAT WHEN WE DID CONSTRUCT
09:50:33 THE EXTENSION ON THE CROSS --
09:50:35 THE SELMON CONNECTOR, AT THAT
09:50:36 TIME THE AGREEMENT WITH THE
09:50:38 CITY OF TAMPA WAS WE WOULD TURN
09:50:41 OVER 22nd AND 21st.
09:50:42 THOSE WERE DEPARTMENT ROADS AT
09:50:42 THE TIME.
09:50:43 WE DID TURN THEM OVER BECAUSE
09:50:45 THE CITY WANTED TO RESTRICT
09:50:47 TRUCK TRAFFIC ALONG THOSE
09:50:47 CORRIDORS.
09:50:48 UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WASN'T
09:50:51 SOMETHING WE CAN DO, BUT THE
09:50:52 CITY COULD DO IT, SO THOSE
09:50:54 ROADS ARE NOW IN THE PROPERTY,
09:50:56 IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY, AND
09:50:57 IT'S MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT
09:51:00 ISSUE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR MORE
09:51:01 THAN --
09:51:06 >> ARE THEY MARKED NO TRUCKS?
09:51:07 >> I BELIEVE THEY ARE NOW.
09:51:09 THERE WAS A TRANSITION PERIOD
09:51:12 WHERE THEY WERE MARKED BUT NOT
09:51:13 ENFORCED, AND I BELIEVE NOW
09:51:14 THEY'RE ENFORCED.
09:51:15 IT DOESN'T MEAN TRUCKS AREN'T
09:51:17 DOING IT, I'M JUST --
09:51:18 OKAY.
09:51:19 SO LET ME GET INTO MY
09:51:20 PRESENTATION.
09:51:21 SO AS A REMINDER, TAMPA BAY
09:51:23 NEXT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS AN
09:51:25 IDEA, A PROGRAM THAT WAS BORN
09:51:28 FROM THE TBX, IF YOU RECALL
09:51:30 BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN TBX
09:51:33 WAS A -- A HOT TOPIC IN THE
09:51:34 REGION BECAUSE WE WERE
09:51:37 INTRODUCING PIECES OF THE TAMPA
09:51:38 INTERSTATE STUDY, WHICH WAS
09:51:41 COMPLETED BACK IN THE '90s,
09:51:43 WHICH INVOLVED THE TWO MAJOR
09:51:45 INTERCHANGES IN WESTSHORE AND
09:51:46 IN DOWNTOWN AND THE CONNECTION
09:51:46 IN BETWEEN.
09:51:49 THAT CAUSED A LOT OF PUBLIC
09:51:52 CONCERN, PREDOMINANTLY IN THE
09:51:53 DOWNTOWN AREA, WHERE WE WERE
09:51:54 ACQUIRING A LOT OF PROPERTY,
09:51:56 IMPACTING HOMES, AND SO THE
09:52:00 PUBLIC CAME OUT AND THERE WERE
09:52:01 SOME STRONG COMMENTS ABOUT THAT
09:52:03 PLAN AND THE NEED FOR US TO
09:52:03 ADDRESS ON A HOLISTIC
09:52:06 PERSPECTIVE WHAT ARE WE DOING
09:52:07 TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION IN
09:52:08 THE REGION, AND WHAT WE WANTED
09:52:11 TO DO IS GET AWAY FROM A
09:52:15 ROAD-CENTRIC PHILOSOPHY AND
09:52:16 BETTER ENGAGE THE PUBLIC ON
09:52:18 WHAT IT IS THAT THEY -- WHAT IS
09:52:20 IT THAT THEY TRULY WANTED TO
09:52:21 SEE -- IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE
09:52:23 AN INVESTMENT IN TRANSPORTATION
09:52:25 AND THE TAMPA BAY REGION, WHAT
09:52:26 WAS THAT INVESTMENT GOING TO
09:52:28 LOOK LIKE, SO WE EMBARKED ON
09:52:29 THIS TAMPA BAY NEXT IDEA TO
09:52:31 CORRECT A BETTER DIALOGUE.
09:52:33 WE WERE -- TO ILLUSTRATE SOME
09:52:34 OF THE -- I'VE GOT A SLIDE HERE
09:52:36 THAT GOES OVER THAT, BUT WE
09:52:38 WERE IN -- WE WENT FROM PASCO
09:52:40 COUNTY, PINELLAS, SOUTH
09:52:41 HILLSBOROUGH, WE WERE -- WE
09:52:42 SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE
09:52:44 URBAN CORE AREAS HEARING FROM
09:52:46 FOLKS AS TO WHAT IT IS THAT
09:52:49 THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THE
09:52:50 TRANSPORTATION CONVERSATION.
09:52:52 BUT AS PART OF TAMPA BAY NEXT
09:52:53 AND THE OTHER PROJECTS, WE'VE
09:52:54 BEEN WORKING TO REDUCE -- AND
09:52:55 THESE ARE THE FOUR -- THE
09:52:57 PROBLEMS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
09:52:58 WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE --
09:53:00 RESOLVE TRAFFIC CONGESTION,
09:53:01 WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE SAFETY,
09:53:02 WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE
09:53:05 OPERATIONS OF THE SYSTEM, AND
09:53:07 THEN THE BIG KEY PART OF THIS
09:53:08 IS ALSO PROVIDING MORE CHOICE
09:53:09 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD
09:53:10 LOUD AND CLEAR.
09:53:12 SO HOW DID WE DO THIS?
09:53:14 A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUBLIC
09:53:16 INVOLVEMENT SINCE 2017.
09:53:18 THE CRA ALONE, WE'VE MADE OVER
09:53:21 26 PRESENTATIONS TO EITHER THIS
09:53:24 -- TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR TO
09:53:26 THE INDIVIDUAL CRAs THEMSELVES.
09:53:28 WE'VE BEEN OUT IN THE COMMUNITY
09:53:29 HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND
09:53:31 HEARING FROM FOLKS WHAT IS IT
09:53:32 THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE.
09:53:34 AND THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES, AGAIN
09:53:36 -- BACK TO -- JUST AS A
09:53:38 REMINDER -- WHAT TAMPA BAY NEXT
09:53:39 IS ABOUT.
09:53:43 IF YOU COULD SEE ON THE MAP,
09:53:46 THE RED/ORANGE SECTIONS THERE
09:53:47 MARKED 4 AND 5 AND THEN 6 AND
09:53:49 7, THAT WAS PART OF THE
09:53:51 ORIGINAL TBX CONVERSATION.
09:53:53 AFTER THAT, WORKING WITH
09:53:54 FEDERAL HIGHWAY, WE KIND OF
09:53:56 BROKE THIS PROJECT -- THAT WAS
09:53:57 -- THAT PROJECT WAS KIND OF
09:53:59 BROKEN OUT INTO WHERE WE WERE
09:54:00 ORIGINALLY DOING A REEVALUATION
09:54:04 ON SOME PORTIONS AND A NEW
09:54:05 STUDY ON THE SEGMENT -- ON THE
09:54:06 SEGMENT 7 PORTION.
09:54:07 WHAT WE WENT BACK WITH, WORKING
09:54:09 WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY, WAS THAT
09:54:11 WE WOULD REEVALUATE THE
09:54:12 ORIGINAL TAMPA INTERSTATE
09:54:14 STUDY, SO THE '91 STUDY WAS THE
09:54:17 PREMISE BEHIND THE TBX
09:54:19 CONVERSATION.
09:54:22 THE TB NEXT OUT OF THAT
09:54:24 GENERATED A SUPPLEMENTAL
09:54:25 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT,
09:54:27 WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL
09:54:28 ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW YOU CAN DO
09:54:30 ON A PROJECT, AND WHAT THAT DID
09:54:31 WAS ALLOWED US TO GO BACK AND
09:54:32 REEVALUATE EVERYTHING, AND,
09:54:33 BASICALLY, YOU'RE STARTING
09:54:35 OVER, YOU'RE TAKING THE
09:54:36 FOUNDATION OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN
09:54:39 AND YOU'RE REASSESSING AND
09:54:40 RELOOKING AT EVERY DECISION
09:54:43 THAT WAS MADE BACK IN '91 AS TO
09:54:44 HOW IT RELATES TODAY.
09:54:45 BUT WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET
09:54:46 THAT WE'RE A REGION AND WE DO
09:54:48 HAVE OTHER -- OTHER PARTS OF
09:54:49 THE INTERSTATE THAT ARE
09:54:49 INVOLVED.
09:54:52 WE HAD THE SEGMENT 8 SECTION,
09:54:57 WHICH WAS ON I-4 GOING OUT TO
09:55:01 PASCO COUNTY, THE HOWARD
09:55:03 FRANKLAND BRIDGE THAT WAS UNDER
09:55:03 WAY, THE GATEWAY PROJECT, WHICH
09:55:03 IS IN PINELLAS COUNTY
09:55:07 CONNECTING THE BAYSIDE BRIDGE
09:55:07 TO THE AIRPORT, TO U.S. 19 AND
09:55:09 I-275; SEGMENT 2, WHICH
09:55:11 STRETCHES DOWN INTO PINELLAS
09:55:13 COUNTY, DOWNTOWN ST. PETE AREA;
09:55:15 AND SECTION 9 AND 10, WHICH IS
09:55:18 I-75, ROUGHLY GOING DOWN FROM
09:55:18 BRUCE B. DOWNS ALL THE WAY DOWN
09:55:21 TO MOCCASIN WALLOW, WHICH IS
09:55:22 SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:55:23 SO THESE WERE THE -- THIS WAS
09:55:24 THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TB NEXT,
09:55:27 AND I COULD ALSO ILLUSTRATE ALL
09:55:28 THE ARTERIALS AND CONNECTORS
09:55:30 THAT WENT INTO BETWEEN BECAUSE
09:55:31 ALL THAT WAS IN THE
09:55:31 CONVERSATION.
09:55:33 WE MADE THE DECISION TO
09:55:34 ELIMINATE EXPRESS LANES OFF
09:55:36 SEGMENT 7, THAT PIECE FROM
09:55:39 DOWNTOWN TO BEARSS AVENUE.
09:55:41 THAT'S NO LONGER IN
09:55:42 CONSIDERATION FOR EXPRESS LANE
09:55:44 CONNECTIVITY, BUT I WILL TALK A
09:55:45 LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR PLAN
09:55:46 IS FOR THAT AREA.
09:55:48 AND THEN WE FOCUSED EXPRESS
09:55:49 LANES NORTH AND SOUTH.
09:55:50 WE SHIFTED THAT CONVERSATION
09:55:54 OVER TO 75.
09:55:58 SO LET'S START WITH THE HOWARD
09:55:58 FRANKLAND BRIDGE.
09:56:00 WE'RE CURRENTLY IN ACTIVE
09:56:01 PROCUREMENT FOR DESIGN-BUILD
09:56:02 PROJECT, AND WE PLAN TO AWARD
09:56:04 THAT PROJECT SOMETIME IN LATE
09:56:05 2019, CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN
09:56:06 2020.
09:56:08 WE ANTICIPATE THE CONSTRUCTION
09:56:09 TO COMPLETE SOMEWHERE AROUND
09:56:10 2024.
09:56:12 THE WORK WILL INCLUDE THE
09:56:13 CONSTRUCTION -- OF A NEW
09:56:14 SOUTHBOUND BRIDGE, COMPLETING
09:56:17 -- WE'LL COMPLETE REHAB --
09:56:19 COMPLETING -- I'M GOING TO SAY
09:56:20 THIS AGAIN.
09:56:21 WE'LL CONSTRUCT A NEW
09:56:22 SOUTHBOUND BRIDGE, AND THEN
09:56:23 WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE
09:56:25 GOING TO SHIFT TRAFFIC, SO THE
09:56:26 SOUTHBOUND BRIDGE WILL BECOME
09:56:28 THE NORTHBOUND BRIDGE, AND THEN
09:56:28 ONCE THE TRAFFIC IS SHIFTED
09:56:31 ONTO THE NEW BRIDGE, WE'LL
09:56:33 DECONSTRUCT THE OLD BRIDGE.
09:56:34 THE RECONSTRUCTION, THE FINAL
09:56:36 DESIGN, WILL PROVIDE FOUR
09:56:37 GENERAL PURPOSE LANES AND TWO
09:56:38 EXPRESS LANES IN EACH DIRECTION
09:56:40 AND WILL INCLUDE A BIKE AND
09:56:41 PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY ACROSS
09:56:43 THAT BRIDGE, AND WHERE THAT
09:56:45 WILL CONNECT ON THE
09:56:47 HILLSBOROUGH SIDE, PROBABLY,
09:56:48 MOST LIKELY, IT WILL PROVIDE
09:56:52 SOME CONNECTION ALONG -- WELL,
09:56:53 TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT WILL
09:56:55 CONNECT PROBABLY TO CYPRESS
09:56:56 POINT PARK AND THEN THE
09:56:58 GREENWAY AT SOME POINT THAT
09:57:00 WILL CONNECT WESTSHORE AREA
09:57:02 WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
09:57:04 IT WILL HAVE A REINFORCED
09:57:06 ENVELOPE ALONG THE BRIDGE.
09:57:08 THOSE KIND OF PURPLISH THINGS
09:57:10 WITH THE FLYING "E" THAT YOU
09:57:11 SEE, THAT WILL BE REINFORCED TO
09:57:13 PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FIXED
09:57:15 LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT AT SOME
09:57:16 POINT IF THAT'S A DECISION THAT
09:57:17 THE REGION WANTS TO SUPPORT AND
09:57:20 GET BEHIND.
09:57:21 WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME
09:57:23 OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE
09:57:24 WESTSHORE AREA.
09:57:25 THESE PROJECTS WILL BE
09:57:27 COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE
09:57:29 CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOWARD
09:57:31 FRANKLAND BRIDGE STARTING.
09:57:32 THE I-275 OPERATIONAL
09:57:33 IMPROVEMENTS WILL PROVIDE
09:57:35 MAINLINE CAPACITY THROUGH THE
09:57:39 INTERCHANGE FROM HOWARD
09:57:40 FRANKLAND AND LOIS, AND ALSO
09:57:42 SOME STATE ROAD 60 IMPROVEMENTS
09:57:44 WILL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL
09:57:46 SOUTHBOUND CONNECTIVITY.
09:57:48 SO I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
09:57:50 THE SEIS, WHAT THAT WAS AND HOW
09:57:51 WE WENT BACK AND WORKED WITH
09:57:54 FEDERAL HIGHWAY TO REEVALUATE
09:57:56 THE ORIGINAL TAMPA INTERSTATE
09:57:57 STUDY DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE
09:57:59 IN THE '90s.
09:58:01 CURRENTLY WE'VE -- THAT PROCESS
09:58:03 HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2017.
09:58:04 WE'VE BEEN REFINING
09:58:05 ALTERNATIVES THROUGHOUT THE
09:58:08 PROCESS, EVALUATING IMPACTS,
09:58:09 AND PREPARING DRAFT REPORTS.
09:58:11 THE WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED -- WE
09:58:13 HAVE A SCHEDULED WORKSHOP MAY
09:58:17 21st AT THE CUBAN CLUB ON THE
09:58:18 DOWNTOWN SIDE, AND THEN WE'RE
09:58:21 GOING -- ON MAY 23rd, WE'LL BE
09:58:23 AT THE TAMPA MARRIOTT WESTSHORE
09:58:23 ON THE WESTSHORE SIDE.
09:58:25 IT WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY
09:58:26 ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND
09:58:28 WEIGH IN ON THE VARIOUS DETAILS
09:58:30 OF THE STUDY THAT WE'VE BEEN
09:58:32 WORKING ON, BUT IN LEADING UP
09:58:34 TO THIS, WE'VE ALSO BEEN HAVING
09:58:35 SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
09:58:37 HOSTED BY THE MPO, PROVIDING
09:58:38 THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:58:40 ASK QUESTIONS, AND WE'VE BEEN
09:58:41 KIND OF BREAKING OUT THE STUDY
09:58:43 IN SPECIFIC DETAIL BECAUSE
09:58:44 THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN
09:58:45 THAT STUDY, AND WE UNDERSTAND
09:58:47 THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO
09:58:48 TAKE IT ALL AT ONE MEETING AND
09:58:51 SAY, WELL, HERE'S MY QUESTIONS.
09:58:53 SO -- COUNCILMAN.
09:58:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T MEAN TO
09:58:55 INTERRUPT YOUR PRESENTATION.
09:58:56 THE CUBAN CLUB MEETING ON THE
09:58:59 21st AND THE ONE ON THE 22nd,
09:59:01 WHAT TIMES ARE THOSE?
09:59:02 >> 5:30 IS THE -- BOTH OF THEM
09:59:06 START AT 5:30-7:30.
09:59:07 THERE'S A FLYER THAT WENT OUT,
09:59:09 IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL,
09:59:10 AND IT'S ON THE SLIDE AS WELL.
09:59:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:59:11 YES, SIR.
09:59:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:59:14 I HATE TO STOP YOUR
09:59:15 PRESENTATION, I SHOULD HAVE CUT
09:59:16 YOU OFF THEN, BUT THE DESIGN
09:59:18 FOR THE BRIDGE --
09:59:19 >> YES.
09:59:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- THE BIKE
09:59:21 LANE, TELL ME THE SAFETY
09:59:22 MEASURES.
09:59:23 IN MY MIND, I'M SEEING PEOPLE
09:59:25 TRAVELING ON -- BIKES ON THAT
09:59:25 BRIDGE.
09:59:26 WHAT'S THE SAFETY MEASURES ON
09:59:27 THAT?
09:59:29 >> SO THEY'LL BE BIFURCATED BY
09:59:30 A WALL.
09:59:32 YEAH, IT WON'T BE LIKE A -- IT
09:59:33 WILL BE BIFURCATED.
09:59:34 THERE WILL BE A WALL THERE.
09:59:35 WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING,
09:59:37 LIKE, A BARRIER FENCE AS WELL
09:59:39 TO KEEP OBSTRUCTIONS FROM
09:59:40 FLYING INTO THE AREA, SO
09:59:41 THEY'LL BE REMOVED FROM THE --
09:59:43 FROM THE MAINLINE TRAFFIC ALONG
09:59:44 THAT CORRIDOR.
09:59:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU,
09:59:46 SIR.
09:59:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
09:59:47 QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE
09:59:48 FORWARD?
09:59:50 MR. McKINNEY, THANK YOU.
09:59:50 >> OKAY.
09:59:52 SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WESTSHORE A
09:59:53 LITTLE BIT, ABOUT WHAT THAT'S
09:59:54 GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
09:59:55 THIS IS HOW WESTSHORE LOOKS
09:59:55 TODAY.
09:59:57 THE EXISTING CONDITION.
09:59:58 AND THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK
10:00:00 LIKE WHEN IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
10:00:02 THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST
10:00:06 IS BETWEEN $1- AND $1.5
10:00:07 BILLION, THAT INCLUDES ALL
10:00:09 ELEMENTS WITHIN CONSTRUCTION.
10:00:10 WE HAVE -- DO NOT HAVE A DATE
10:00:12 DETERMINED FOR CONSTRUCTION
10:00:12 START.
10:00:14 CURRENTLY, WE'RE -- WE'RE
10:00:16 PROCEEDING ON TRACK TO BE
10:00:18 PREPARED BY 2023 TO RECEIVE
10:00:20 FUNDING TO START CONSTRUCTION,
10:00:21 BUT WE'RE -- AND WE'RE JUST
10:00:24 HOPING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.
10:00:25 SO RECONSTRUCTING THE
10:00:26 INTERCHANGE, OBVIOUSLY, WILL
10:00:28 ALLEVIATE THE BOTTLENECKS.
10:00:29 ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE
10:00:31 HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, WELL,
10:00:33 THE MAIN RESTRICTION IS COMING
10:00:35 OFF THAT BRIDGE GOING INTO TWO
10:00:35 RECEIVING LANES.
10:00:36 WELL, THIS WILL FREE UP THAT
10:00:39 BOTTLENECK AND ALLOW THAT
10:00:41 TRAFFIC TO FREE-FLOW THROUGH
10:00:43 THE INTERCHANGE, SO IT ADDS
10:00:44 THREE GENERAL PURPOSE LANES AND
10:00:45 TWO EXPRESS LANES IN EACH
10:00:45 DIRECTION.
10:00:47 IT WILL PROVIDE A DIRECT
10:00:49 EXPRESS LANE CONNECTIVITY INTO
10:00:51 THE TAMPA BAY INTERNATIONAL
10:00:51 AIRPORT.
10:00:52 THERE WILL BE A DEDICATED RAMP
10:00:54 FROM KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO THE
10:00:56 TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT,
10:00:57 AND IT CONNECTS TO THE VETERANS
10:01:00 EXPRESSWAY VIA STATE ROAD 60
10:01:02 EXPRESS LANES, PROVIDES FOR NEW
10:01:06 CONNECTIONS UNDER I-275 AT RIO,
10:01:11 OCCIDENT, AND TRASK, SO WE'LL
10:01:13 REDIRECT THOSE STREETS, AND RIO
10:01:15 RECONNECTS TO I-275.
10:01:17 JUST TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT RIO'S
10:01:18 GOING TO LOOK LIKE A LITTLE
10:01:20 BIT, SO THIS IS HOW IT WILL
10:01:21 LOOK FROM ABOVE YOU, AND THIS
10:01:22 IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
10:01:24 IT'S KIND OF A MINI DIVERGING
10:01:27 DIAMOND, SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON
10:01:30 THE SARASOTA -- THE UNIVERSITY
10:01:32 PARKWAY, AND WHAT WE'RE
10:01:34 CONSTRUCTING ALONG 56th.
10:01:35 IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE'RE
10:01:36 LOOKING AT FOUR DIFFERENT
10:01:38 OPTIONS.
10:01:39 TWO OF THEM RECONSTRUCT THE
10:01:41 INTERCHANGES, OPTIONS "A" AND
10:01:41 "B."
10:01:44 YES, SIR.
10:01:45 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ASK
10:01:46 ONE QUESTION, JUST SO YOU DON'T
10:01:47 HAVE TO GO BACK?
10:01:48 >> SURE.
10:01:49 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU GO
10:01:50 BACK TWO SLIDES, PLEASE.
10:01:51 ONE MORE, SORRY.
10:01:52 SORRY.
10:01:53 ONE MORE.
10:01:56 >> OKAY.
10:01:57 >>BILL CARLSON: AND ONE MORE.
10:01:58 THIS ONE.
10:01:59 OKAY.
10:02:01 THIS IS MY LAYMAN'S VIEW OF IT.
10:02:02 >> SURE.
10:02:04 >>BILL CARLSON: I GO BACK AND
10:02:05 FORTH TO ST. PETE A LOT, AND
10:02:07 THE PEOPLE IN ST. PETE ARE
10:02:08 FRUSTRATED THAT THEY CAN'T GET
10:02:10 INTO TAMPA AND IT INHIBITS
10:02:11 COMMERCE.
10:02:12 ONE OF THE THINGS I OBSERVE,
10:02:14 YOU SEE THIS KINK, SO WHEN YOU
10:02:16 FIRST COME ACROSS THE WESTSHORE
10:02:17 EXCHANGE AND THEN THERE'S A
10:02:18 KINK THERE, BUT WHAT I OBSERVE
10:02:20 IS THE TRAFFIC SPEEDS UP JUST
10:02:21 AFTER THE KINK, AND ARE YOU ALL
10:02:23 LOOKING AT MAYBE STRAIGHTENING
10:02:24 THAT OUT OR DO YOUR ENGINEERS
10:02:26 THINK THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE
10:02:27 PROBLEM?
10:02:28 IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE, JUST THAT
10:02:30 SLIGHT TURN SEEMS TO SLOW
10:02:31 PEOPLE DOWN RIGHT AT THAT AREA.
10:02:32 >> RIGHT.
10:02:33 SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
10:02:34 CHALLENGES WITH THIS SYSTEM IS
10:02:37 A LOT OF THE -- WHAT WE REFER
10:02:42 TO AS -- IT'S KIND OF WEAVING
10:02:44 MOVEMENTS, RIGHT, THERE'S A LOT
10:02:46 OF INTERCHANGES, THERE'S AT 60
10:02:48 AT LOIS, AT DALE MABRY, AND SO
10:02:49 THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT
10:02:50 THAT'S OCCURRING, A LOT OF
10:02:51 TURBULENCE THAT'S HAPPENING, SO
10:02:53 WE ARE LOOKING AT REMOVING THE
10:02:54 TURBULENCE, GETTING THE TRAFFIC
10:02:55 THAT WANTS TO GET OFF, GETTING
10:02:57 IT SEPARATED FROM THE MAINLINE
10:02:59 TRAFFIC, AND THAT WILL HELP
10:02:59 FREE-FLOW OF THAT TRAFFIC
10:03:01 THROUGH THAT INTERCHANGE.
10:03:02 WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE
10:03:03 SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITH
10:03:04 THE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENT
10:03:06 WHERE WE'LL PROVIDE SOME
10:03:07 ADDITIONAL FREE-FLOW LANE UP TO
10:03:09 DALE MABRY, SO, ACTUALLY,
10:03:10 YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE
10:03:11 IMPROVEMENTS OCCUR SOONER THAN
10:03:12 THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE
10:03:13 INTERCHANGE.
10:03:14 >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT.
10:03:15 THANK YOU.
10:03:17 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
10:03:21 >> LET ME GO -- I THINK --
10:03:21 OKAY.
10:03:22 SO I WAS HERE.
10:03:23 OKAY.
10:03:25 SO AS I SAID, "A" AND
10:03:27 "B" RECONSTRUCT THE INTERCHANGE
10:03:28 AND PROVIDE EXPRESS LANE
10:03:29 CONNECTIVITY.
10:03:30 SO, AGAIN, AS PART OF THE
10:03:31 CONVERSATION, WE WERE LOOKING
10:03:33 AT HOW DO WE REDUCE THE
10:03:35 FOOTPRINT OF THE INTERCHANGE,
10:03:38 HOW DO WE MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO
10:03:39 COMMUNITIES AND THE
10:03:40 RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPACTS, AND
10:03:41 THAT'S WHAT "C" AND "D" WAS
10:03:43 INTENDED TO DO, IT WAS LOOKING
10:03:46 AT HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THE
10:03:47 FUNCTION AMOUNT OF THE
10:03:48 INTERCHANGE BUT ALSO PROVIDE
10:03:50 SOME CONGESTION RELIEF IN THE
10:03:52 FORMS OF EXPRESS LANE
10:03:53 CONNECTIVITY.
10:03:55 SO C & D WAS AN ATTEMPT TO DO
10:03:56 THAT.
10:03:57 "C" BASICALLY TAKES EXPRESS
10:03:59 LANES AND RUNS THEM SOUTH OF
10:04:03 THE INTERCHANGE, AND OPTION
10:04:06 "D" TAKES EXPRESS LANES AND
10:04:07 TAKES THEM NORTH OF THE
10:04:08 INTERCHANGE, AND WE ARE
10:04:09 EVALUATING ALL FOUR OF THOSE
10:04:12 OPTIONS AS PART OF OUR STUDY.
10:04:13 AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF OUR
10:04:14 DETAIL, THE BACKGROUND THAT
10:04:15 WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING TO THIS
10:04:17 COMMITTEE, AND IF THERE'S
10:04:17 INFORMATION SPECIFIC THAT YOU
10:04:19 WOULD LIKE US TO COME BACK AND
10:04:21 TALK TO, WE DEFINITELY CAN OR
10:04:23 WE CAN MEET ONE-ON-ONE AS WELL.
10:04:25 SO LET'S TALK ABOUT I-275
10:04:26 BECAUSE THAT'S A STUDY THAT
10:04:28 WE'VE JUST -- WE'VE DONE A
10:04:29 PUBLIC HEARING ON HERE
10:04:32 RECENTLY.
10:04:35 I-275, FROM IT ROUGHLY NORTH OF
10:04:37 BEARSS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JUST
10:04:41 NORTH OF MLK, SEGMENT 7, THIS
10:04:43 SEGMENT WAS ORIGINALLY LOOKED
10:04:46 AT UNDER THE TBX CONVERSATION
10:04:48 AS ONE OF OUR EXPRESS LANE
10:04:48 CORRIDORS.
10:04:50 WE WERE LOOKING AT PROVIDING
10:04:52 ONE LANE IN EACH -- AN EXPRESS
10:04:53 LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, AND
10:04:55 WE'VE SEEN GONE BACK AND
10:04:57 ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR THE
10:04:58 EXPRESS LANES, BUT WE'RE STILL
10:05:00 LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL
10:05:01 CAPACITY THROUGH THERE, SO
10:05:03 THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PROJECTS
10:05:04 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, AS YOU
10:05:05 SEE ON HERE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN
10:05:07 THOSE TO YOU.
10:05:08 YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF
10:05:09 THE SCREEN THE TRANSITION LIMIT
10:05:11 PROJECT AND THEN THE SECTION 7
10:05:12 PROJECT.
10:05:14 SO THE TRANSITION PROJECT WILL
10:05:15 COMPLETE OPERATIONAL
10:05:16 IMPROVEMENTS TO PROVIDE A
10:05:17 TRANSITION TO EXISTING
10:05:19 CONDITIONS ON THE CORRIDOR.
10:05:21 IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE PROVIDING
10:05:23 AUXILIARY LANES NORTHBOUND AT
10:05:27 FLORIBRASKA AVENUE TO MARTIN
10:05:29 LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND
10:05:31 SOUTHBOUND FROM MARTIN LUTHER
10:05:33 KIND, JR. BOULEVARD TO THE
10:05:35 FLYOVER RAMP AT I-4.
10:05:35 NO RIGHT-OF-WAY IS GOING TO BE
10:05:35 REQUIRED AND SOUND WALLS WILL
10:05:38 BE INSTALLED WHERE FEASIBLE.
10:05:39 SECTION 7, WHICH IS THE PROJECT
10:05:41 TO THE RIGHT, WILL PROVIDE
10:05:42 ADDITIONAL CAPACITY ALONG THE
10:05:43 CORRIDOR TO PROVIDE FOUR
10:05:44 GENERAL PURPOSE LANES IN EACH
10:05:46 DIRECTION AND A 15-FOOT-WIDE
10:05:48 INSIDE MEDIAN THAT WILL -- THAT
10:05:50 CAN ACCOMMODATE TRANSIT IN THE
10:05:51 FUTURE.
10:05:52 ALL THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS
10:05:54 FOR THE MAINLINE I-275 WILL
10:05:56 TAKE PLACE WITHIN EXISTING
10:05:57 RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AT THE BEARSS
10:05:59 INTERCHANGE THERE WILL BE A
10:06:00 NEED FOR SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR
10:06:02 PONDS, BUT IT'LL BE MINIMAL.
10:06:03 SO LET ME KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT
10:06:06 THE TRANSITION PIECE OF THAT
10:06:06 LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE
10:06:08 THAT'S THE -- AND THIS -- THIS
10:06:10 MAY OR MAY NOT CONFUSE YOU EVEN
10:06:11 MORE.
10:06:13 SO THIS IS THE PIECE, ROUGHLY,
10:06:15 FROM NORTH OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER
10:06:17 KING BOULEVARD INTO THE
10:06:18 INTERCHANGE, SO WE'RE LOOKING
10:06:19 AT PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL
10:06:21 CAPACITY, AS YOU SEE, ON THE
10:06:23 INSIDE, SO YOU'LL ACTUALLY HAVE
10:06:24 AN ADDITIONAL LANE.
10:06:25 WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TRY TO
10:06:28 SEPARATE OUT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S
10:06:30 HEADING SOUTHBOUND TO EASTBOUND
10:06:32 I-4, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING
10:06:34 AT PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL LANE
10:06:35 ON THE OFF RAMP.
10:06:37 NOW IT'S A SINGLE LANE, AND IF
10:06:38 YOU NOTICE -- WELL, IF YOU'VE
10:06:40 DRIVEN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW THAT
10:06:43 TRAFFIC STACKS UP ON 275, AND A
10:06:44 LOT OF IT IS EITHER PEOPLE
10:06:45 TRYING TO GET ON THAT RAMP OR
10:06:49 PEOPLE TRYING TO JUMP THE QUEUE
10:06:50 AND TRY TO JUMP AHEAD OF THOSE
10:06:51 PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING
10:06:53 TO GET ON THAT RAMP, SO WHAT WE
10:06:54 WANT TO TRY TO DO IS REMOVE
10:07:00 THAT -- REMOVE THAT QUEUING AS
10:07:02 WELL AS PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL
10:07:03 STORAGE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE
10:07:04 GETTING ONTO THE EASTBOUND --
10:07:08 SOUTHBOUND-TO-EASTBOUND RAMP.
10:07:09 THIS ILLUSTRATES KIND OF A
10:07:09 ONE-WAY -- ONE LANE ON THE RAMP
10:07:12 FLYOVER, THEN MERGING BACK INTO
10:07:13 THE SINGLE LANE, BUT WHAT WE'RE
10:07:14 LOOKING AT NOW IS PROVIDING
10:07:18 ACTUALLY TWO THROUGH LANES ON
10:07:20 THAT RAMP THAT WILL CONNECT
10:07:21 ONTO -- EITHER CONNECT ONTO
10:07:25 14th/15th BELOW AND MERGING ON
10:07:27 -- AND ALSO MERGING ONTO I-4.
10:07:29 WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN
10:07:30 EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND
10:07:30 WE'RE EVALUATING THE
10:07:32 ENGINEERING OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:07:33 THAT LITTLE PIECE, THAT
10:07:35 BULB-OUT THAT YOU SEE HEADING
10:07:37 INTO DOWNTOWN TAMPA, IT REALLY
10:07:38 DOESN'T DO IT JUSTICE VERY WELL
10:07:40 BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY A LONG
10:07:42 EXTENDED PIECE THAT ALLOWS
10:07:45 PEOPLE THAT -- IT PROVIDES
10:07:46 CONNECTIVITY TO PEOPLE THAT ARE
10:07:49 HEADING INTO DOWNTOWN --
10:07:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AT THAT THE
10:07:51 ASHLEY --
10:07:51 >> YES.
10:07:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- IS THAT
10:07:57 ASHLEY ONTO DOYLE CARLTON?
10:07:57 >> YES.
10:07:59 AND THEY'LL MERGE INTO THE TWO
10:08:01 LANES THAT ARE THERE NOW, AND I
10:08:04 THINK IT WIDENS ONCE YOU GET
10:08:05 PAST THE TURN.
10:08:06 AND THEN WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE
10:08:07 SOME ADDITIONAL -- RIGHT NOW,
10:08:10 IF YOU COME OFF FLORIBRASKA,
10:08:11 YOU'VE GOT TO MERGE INTO THE
10:08:11 TRAFFIC.
10:08:13 WELL, A LOT OF THAT FLORIBRASKA
10:08:15 TRAFFIC, BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
10:08:16 GOES FROM ONE EXIT TO THE OTHER
10:08:17 EXIT.
10:08:18 WHAT THIS DOES IS IT PROVIDES
10:08:21 -- WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A
10:08:22 CONTINUOUS AUXILIARY LANE SO
10:08:23 ONCE YOU'RE IN THAT LANE, YOU
10:08:25 DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE IT IF
10:08:26 YOU'RE GOING TO DALE MABRY, AND
10:08:28 IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
10:08:29 OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT
10:08:30 WANT TO WEAVE INTO THAT LANE TO
10:08:32 GO TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
10:08:33 BOULEVARD, THEY CAN THEN
10:08:35 TRANSITION INTO THAT LANE A LOT
10:08:36 SOONER.
10:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I'M
10:08:39 SEEING HERE, WE'RE NOT CLOSING
10:08:41 FLORIBRASKA FROM WHAT I'M
10:08:42 SEEING OFF THIS DIAGRAM;
10:08:42 CORRECT?
10:08:44 >> THE CLOSURE WITH FLORIBRASKA
10:08:46 IS MORE TIED TO THE DOWNTOWN
10:08:47 INTERCHANGE WITH THE
10:08:48 CONSTRUCTION, SO WE WON'T BE
10:08:49 LOOKING AT ANY FLORIBRASKA
10:08:51 CLOSURE UNTIL AFTER -- AND THE
10:08:52 SECRETARY'S GOING TO COME UP
10:08:53 AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
10:08:54 DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES AND HOW
10:08:55 THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE PLAYS
10:08:57 INTO THIS CONVERSATION, BUT,
10:08:59 YEAH, COUNCILMAN, WE WILL NOT
10:09:01 BE CLOSING FLORIBRASKA UNTIL
10:09:03 AFTER THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE
10:09:05 DECISION IS MADE AND WE'VE GOT
10:09:06 A PLAN FOR RECONSTRUCTING
10:09:08 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE.
10:09:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST MAKE SURE
10:09:11 THE COMMUNITY IS ENGAGED IN
10:09:12 THAT BECAUSE SOME WERE VERY,
10:09:12 VERY UPSET --
10:09:13 >> SURE.
10:09:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- ABOUT THAT
10:09:15 ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THAT
10:09:16 COMMUNITY.
10:09:17 >> YES.
10:09:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I HARP ON
10:09:20 THIS ALL THE TIME.
10:09:22 WHEN THAT BRIDGE ON 40th STREET
10:09:32 WAS BUILT [AUDIO LOST]
10:09:37 >> -- A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOUND
10:09:40 WALLS IN THE FUTURE BUILD
10:09:42 SCENARIO ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
10:09:44 THERE'S 749 PROPERTIES THAT ARE
10:09:46 PREDICTED TO BE IMPACTED BY
10:09:49 TRAFFIC NOISE, 740 OF THOSE ARE
10:09:50 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, SO
10:09:51 WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOUND WALLS
10:09:53 OR EXTENDING EXISTING SOUND
10:09:54 WALLS.
10:09:56 THAT WILL BE FURTHER STUDIED IN
10:09:57 THE DESIGN PHASE, BUT WE HAVE
10:09:59 COMMITTED AND WE'VE SAID
10:10:00 PUBLICLY THAT WE ARE COMMITTED
10:10:02 TO CONSTRUCTING SOUND WALLS AS
10:10:03 SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN WE
10:10:04 WILL COORDINATE WITH THE
10:10:07 AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
10:10:08 COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE WHAT
10:10:09 TYPE OF TREATMENTS, HOW THEY'LL
10:10:11 LOOK, WHAT AESTHETICS, WHAT
10:10:13 COLOR, AND -- AS THE PROJECT
10:10:16 MOVES INTO THE DESIGN PHASE.
10:10:17 LANDSCAPE OPPORTUNITY.
10:10:19 THIS QUESTION COMES UP QUITE A
10:10:19 BIT.
10:10:21 THE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO
10:10:22 PROVIDING LANDSCAPING.
10:10:24 WE WILL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH
10:10:25 THE COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE NOT
10:10:27 JUST WHERE TO PUT THE
10:10:30 LANDSCAPING BUT WHAT TYPE OF
10:10:32 LANDSCAPING, AND SO THAT WILL
10:10:33 DEFINITELY BE PART OF THE
10:10:36 CONVERSATION AS WE MOVE
10:10:37 FORWARD.
10:10:38 SO TRANSITIONING OUT OF THE
10:10:40 SEIS INTO OTHER TB NEXT
10:10:43 CONVERSATIONS, JUST WANT TO
10:10:44 REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT, YOU
10:10:45 KNOW, D.O.T. HAS BEEN A
10:10:47 COMMITTED PARTNER TO TRANSIT.
10:10:49 WE RECOGNIZE THAT A ROAD
10:10:50 SOLUTION IS NOT GOING TO, YOU
10:10:52 KNOW -- IT'S NOT GOING TO --
10:10:53 WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD OUR
10:10:54 WAY OUT OF CONGESTION.
10:10:56 WE'VE GOT TO FIND ALTERNATIVE
10:10:57 WAYS OF GETTING PEOPLE AROUND,
10:10:58 WHETHER IT'S TRANSIT, WHETHER
10:11:00 IT'S TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT,
10:11:01 WHATEVER IT IS, INTEGRATED
10:11:03 TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR SYSTEM.
10:11:04 YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMMITTED TO
10:11:06 LOOKING AT ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO
10:11:08 IMPROVE HOW PEOPLE GET AROUND
10:11:10 IN OUR REGION, AND THIS IS JUST
10:11:12 TO ILLUSTRATE NOT JUST THE
10:11:14 THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE
10:11:15 REGION BUT THE THINGS THAT THE
10:11:17 DEPARTMENT IS A PARTNER IN WITH
10:11:21 EITHER THE CITY, THE -- THE
10:11:23 COUNTY, TO ADVANCE THE TRANSIT
10:11:25 CONVERSATION.
10:11:26 YOU KNOW, THE -- AGAIN,
10:11:27 ILLUSTRATING, YOU KNOW, HOW
10:11:29 IMPORTANT SOME OF THESE
10:11:29 CONNECTIVITIES ARE.
10:11:31 WE'RE A FUNDING PARTNER WITH
10:11:31 THE EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR
10:11:32 STUDY.
10:11:34 WE WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, AND
10:11:35 WE -- WE'RE COMMITTED TO
10:11:36 WORKING WITH THE CITY TO MAKE
10:11:37 THAT HAPPEN.
10:11:38 WE'RE ALSO WORKING UP IN THE
10:11:40 UNIVERSITY AREA TO LOOK AT A
10:11:42 ROUTE STUDY ALONG THERE.
10:11:43 WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE
10:11:45 INNOVATION PLACE FOLKS AS WELL
10:11:46 AS THE CITY AND THE COUNTY
10:11:48 BECAUSE IT -- BECAUSE
10:11:50 UNIVERSITY AREA KIND OF HAS --
10:11:51 CROSSES BOTH BOUNDARIES.
10:11:53 HOW DO WE IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY
10:11:54 IN THOSE AREAS.
10:11:56 AND THEN, AGAIN, HOW DO WE
10:11:57 CONNECT THOSE TWO MAJOR AREAS,
10:11:58 WHETHER IT'S ALONG FLORIDA
10:12:00 AVENUE, NEBRASKA, WHETHER WE
10:12:03 USE THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL --
10:12:07 THE TBARTA STUDY ALONG 275,
10:12:07 THAT CORRIDOR.
10:12:08 WHEREVER THAT TRANSIT
10:12:09 CONNECTIVITY THAT MAKES SENSE
10:12:13 THAT THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE
10:12:14 -- WHOEVER'S GOING TO RUN THE
10:12:16 TRANSIT OPERATIONS, WHATEVER
10:12:18 DECISION'S MADE, WE STAND READY
10:12:19 TO BE A STRONG PARTNER IN
10:12:22 MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
10:12:23 WE'RE ALSO COMMITTED TO
10:12:24 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:25 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE
10:12:28 DEPARTMENT HAS UNDERTAKEN, AND
10:12:29 THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE VERY
10:12:30 PROUD OF, AND SO WE'D LIKE TO
10:12:33 TALK ABOUT IT, AND JUST TO
10:12:34 ILLUSTRATE JUST HOW COMMITTED
10:12:36 WE ARE, WE PILOTED A PROGRAM IN
10:12:37 THE GATEWAY PROJECT AREA.
10:12:39 WE PARTNERED WITH ST. PETE
10:12:41 WORKS, THE PINELLAS SEX
10:12:42 OFFENDERS REHABILITATION
10:12:45 COALITION, PERC, WE'VE
10:12:47 PARTNERED WITH ST. PETE HOUSING
10:12:48 AUTHORITY, CAREERSOURCE, AND
10:12:51 THE CDC OF TAMPA, TO BRING
10:12:52 FOLKS THAT OTHERWISE HAVE --
10:12:53 DON'T HAVE JOB OPPORTUNITIES --
10:12:55 AND I KNOW I'M NOT SAYING
10:12:56 ANYTHING YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT
10:12:57 THERE ARE POCKETS IN OUR
10:12:58 COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY EAST
10:13:00 TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, THE
10:13:01 UNIVERSITY AREA, THAT DON'T
10:13:04 SHARE THE 3.2% OR 4%
10:13:06 UNEMPLOYMENT THAT THE REST OF
10:13:06 US SHARE.
10:13:08 IT'S MORE LIKE 40%.
10:13:09 SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THOSE
10:13:11 COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE JOB
10:13:12 OPPORTUNITIES.
10:13:13 WE'RE WORKING WITH FEDERAL
10:13:15 HIGHWAY, WE'RE WORKING WITH
10:13:16 AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE THESE
10:13:19 SERVICES TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO
10:13:20 BRING PEOPLE INTO THE
10:13:21 WORKFORCE.
10:13:22 WE'RE ACTUALLY -- IN THE
10:13:24 GATEWAY AREA, WE'VE BROUGHT
10:13:26 OVER 20 FOLKS INTO THE PROGRAM.
10:13:28 THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON
10:13:29 THE GATEWAY PROJECT.
10:13:30 WE TRAIN THEM, WE'VE PROVIDED
10:13:33 THEM WORK BOOTS, EQUIPMENT,
10:13:35 TRANSPORTATION WHERE NEEDED,
10:13:36 AND IT'S REALLY WORKING OUT
10:13:37 BECAUSE ALL BUT ONE OF THOSE
10:13:41 FOLKS THAT ENTERED THE PROGRAM,
10:13:42 ALL OF THEM ARE STILL IN THE
10:13:43 PROGRAM AND WORKING ON THE
10:13:44 PROJECT.
10:13:45 SO THAT WAS A LOT OF
10:13:45 INFORMATION.
10:13:47 I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE
10:13:48 QUESTIONS, AND THEN I'LL -- I'D
10:13:52 LIKE SECRETARY GWYNN TO COME UP
10:13:55 AND SAY A FEW WORDS.
10:13:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
10:13:56 VIERA.
10:13:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY
10:13:57 MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
10:13:59 I APPRECIATE YOUR FINAL PART ON
10:14:00 THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THESE
10:14:00 KIND OF PROJECTS HAVE.
10:14:01 YOU KNOW, THOUGH IT'S NOT
10:14:04 CREATED AS SUCH, A LOT OF THESE
10:14:05 ARE WPA, WORKS PROGRESS
10:14:07 ADMINISTRATION, TYPE EFFORTS IN
10:14:08 EFFECT THAT REALLY PUT
10:14:11 COMMUNITIES BACK TO WORK WITH
10:14:12 STARTING WAGES THAT ARE DOUBLE
10:14:14 OUR MINIMUM WAGE FROM THE STATE
10:14:15 LEVEL, MORE THAN DOUBLE, AND
10:14:16 THAT'S -- ACTUALLY, NO, IT'S
10:14:18 LESS THAN DOUBLE, MY MATH WAS
10:14:19 OFF, BUT ROUGHLY DOUBLE, AND
10:14:20 THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING.
10:14:21 YOU KNOW, YOU'D VERY BRIEFLY
10:14:25 MENTIONED I-75 AND POTENTIAL
10:14:26 EXPRESS LANES THERE.
10:14:27 AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, I
10:14:29 WOULD CONTINUE TO ASK THAT YOU
10:14:30 KEEP ME UPDATED ON THOSE.
10:14:31 I KNOW I PUT TOGETHER A
10:14:32 COMMUNITY MEETING WITH NEW
10:14:34 TAMPA ON THAT MAYBE SIX, SEVEN
10:14:35 MONTHS AGO, BUT WE'LL -- JUST
10:14:37 EVERY -- TO QUOTE THE POLICE,
10:14:38 EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE ON THAT
10:14:39 ISSUE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW
10:14:41 BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
10:14:42 ISSUE TO THE COMMUNITY,
10:14:42 OBVIOUSLY.
10:14:45 YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY AT THE MPO,
10:14:46 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND I, WE
10:14:49 VOTED ON HAVING A STUDY DONE OF
10:14:51 THE BOULEVARD MAKEOVER ON 275,
10:14:52 SOMETHING THAT COULD REALLY,
10:14:54 REALLY BE A GAME CHANGER,
10:14:55 POTENTIALLY, AND IT'S SOMETHING
10:14:57 THAT I WAS PLEASED WITH BECAUSE
10:14:59 IT'S AN IDEA THAT HAS CAPTURED
10:15:00 THE IMAGINATION OF A LOT OF
10:15:02 PEOPLE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY,
10:15:03 AND IT'S A BIG IDEA.
10:15:04 >> YES.
10:15:08 >>LUIS VIERA: IT REALLY, REALLY
10:15:09 IS, IT'S A BIG IDEA, LIKE,
10:15:10 ARGUABLY, TBX WAS A BIG IDEA.
10:15:12 THIS IS REALLY POTENTIALLY A
10:15:13 GAME CHANGER, AND WE, AS A
10:15:15 COMMUNITY, SHOULD NOT BE SCARED
10:15:17 TO ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION OF
10:15:19 BIG IDEAS, NO MATTER HOW
10:15:22 INTIMIDATING OR LARGE THEY MAY
10:15:23 BE.
10:15:23 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK
10:15:23 WOULD COST BETWEEN $3- TO $9
10:15:23 BILLION AND POTENTIALLY HAVE
10:15:24 SOME OFFSETTING REVENUE
10:15:26 ENHANCEMENTS, WITH, I THINK IT
10:15:28 IS, 35 ACRES OF LAND MADE
10:15:29 AVAILABLE FOR ADDITIONAL
10:15:30 REVENUE TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES,
10:15:31 BUT IT'S -- I THINK IT'S GOOD
10:15:32 THAT WE'RE DOING A STUDY ON
10:15:34 THAT SO WE CAN SEE EXACTLY
10:15:36 WHERE THAT COULD TAKE US AS A
10:15:36 COMMUNITY.
10:15:38 I THINK MANY OF US ARE MAYBE
10:15:40 AGNOSTIC ON IT, AND WE'RE GOING
10:15:41 TO LOOK TOWARDS A STUDY TO
10:15:43 REALLY SEE WHERE IT COULD GO.
10:15:45 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK
10:15:46 ABOUT THIS BOULEVARD MAKEOVER
10:15:48 GIVING THE TAMPA AREA A SPINE.
10:15:50 I ALWAYS SAY THAT CONCURRENT
10:15:51 WITH THAT OR BEFORE THAT WE
10:15:53 NEED TO DEVELOP BETTER LUNGS
10:15:54 WHENEVER IT COMES TO HAVING A
10:15:57 REAL 21st CENTURY MASS TRANSIT
10:15:59 SYSTEM HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY,
10:16:01 AND I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE
10:16:02 HART TAKING A LOOK AT A STUDY
10:16:04 FOR I BELIEVE IT IS BRT THAT'S
10:16:07 GOING TO BE CONNECTING USF WITH
10:16:08 DOWNTOWN TAMPA --
10:16:09 >> YEAH.
10:16:09 >>LUIS VIERA: -- SOMETHING THAT
10:16:12 IS A REAL STEP FORWARD FOR THIS
10:16:13 COMMUNITY, SOMETHING THAT MASS
10:16:15 TRANSIT IS SUPPOSED TO DO TO
10:16:16 HAVE CONCURRENT INVESTMENT IN
10:16:17 THE AREA, AND I THINK WHEN YOU
10:16:18 LOOK AT THE RO US THAT THAT
10:16:19 WOULD TAKE AND THE EFFECTS THAT
10:16:21 THAT WOULD HAVE ON COMMUNITIES,
10:16:22 INCLUDING AT USF, THAT'S A REAL
10:16:23 STEP FORWARD.
10:16:24 SO, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL OF US WHO
10:16:26 WERE JUST ELECTED OR REELECTED
10:16:27 TO THIS BODY, WE'RE IN THE
10:16:30 MIDDLE OF A VERY, VERY EXCITING
10:16:31 TIME FOR TRANSPORTATION.
10:16:32 WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A
10:16:33 TRANSIT CONNECTOR FINALLY
10:16:34 BETWEEN TAMPA AND ORLANDO,
10:16:36 WE'RE LOOKING AT UP TO $300
10:16:38 MILLION IN AFT FUNDING,
10:16:40 POTENTIALLY, FOR OUR AREA.
10:16:41 THE BRT, MANY DIFFERENT
10:16:42 DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING
10:16:42 AT.
10:16:44 SO I THINK THE STUDY THAT WE'RE
10:16:45 GOING TO BE LOOKING AT
10:16:46 YESTERDAY THAT WE VOTED ON IN
10:16:47 MPO IS ANOTHER LAYER TO THAT
10:16:50 WHERE WE COULD HAVE A REAL
10:16:51 ROBUST DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF
10:16:53 WHERE WE NEED TO GO NEXT, AND
10:16:54 WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
10:16:55 WORKING WITH YOU ALL AT FDOT AS
10:16:57 A GOOD VIGOROUS PARTNER, SO
10:16:57 THANK YOU.
10:16:59 >> YES, SIR.
10:16:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
10:17:01 DINGFELDER.
10:17:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,
10:17:03 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:17:05 AS PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION OF
10:17:08 THE INTERCHANGE -- AND CORRECT
10:17:09 ME IF I'M WRONG -- I THOUGHT I
10:17:10 HEARD YOU SPEAK VERY QUICKLY
10:17:14 ABOUT EXPRESS LANES OR THE
10:17:15 EXPLORATION OF EXPRESS LANES
10:17:20 THROUGH THE INTERCHANGE, AND
10:17:24 JUST, FRANKLY, WHEN I SAT ON
10:17:25 THE MPO PREVIOUSLY, I'VE NEVER
10:17:27 BEEN A BIG FAN OF EXPRESS LANES
10:17:30 OR, YOU KNOW, THE PAID LEXUS
10:17:32 LANES LIKE PEOPLE CALL THEM AND
10:17:33 THAT SORT OF THING.
10:17:34 CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT --
10:17:36 EXPAND THAT A LITTLE BIT IN
10:17:37 TERMS OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT'S
10:17:38 THOUGHT PROCESS IS ON THAT,
10:17:41 WHAT THE -- WHAT THE -- YOU
10:17:43 KNOW, THE BENEFIT IS, WHAT THE
10:17:44 COMMUNITY'S REACTION HAS BEEN
10:17:46 TO THAT, ET CETERA?
10:17:47 >> OKAY.
10:17:49 SO WE'LL KIND OF GO BACK A
10:17:51 LITTLE BIT IN THE ORIGINAL
10:17:54 TAMPA INTERSTATE STUDY THAT WAS
10:17:56 DONE BACK IN '91, AND THEN THE
10:17:58 -- THE STUDY ORIGINALLY HAD FOR
10:18:00 NONTOLLED EXPRESS LANE
10:18:02 CONNECTIVITY, BASICALLY, YOU
10:18:03 WOULD GET ON THAT SYSTEM
10:18:04 SOMEWHERE IN THE BRANDON AREA,
10:18:05 AND YOU WOULD TAKE IT ALL THE
10:18:06 WAY TO WESTSHORE.
10:18:08 I THINK THERE WAS AN
10:18:09 OPPORTUNITY AT THE CONNECTOR
10:18:11 THAT YOU WOULD GET OFF TO GO TO
10:18:13 DOWNTOWN, BUT IT WAS NONTOLLED,
10:18:15 BUT IT WAS A LONG DISTANCE.
10:18:17 SO WHAT'S EVOLVED OVER THE
10:18:18 YEARS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT
10:18:20 CONNECTIVITY.
10:18:21 PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA WERE
10:18:22 SAYING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT US,
10:18:24 WE'RE NOT -- YOU KNOW, THAT
10:18:25 DOESN'T BENEFIT US.
10:18:26 THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS WANTING
10:18:26 MORE.
10:18:28 THEY WANTED TO SPREAD IT OUT A
10:18:28 LITTLE BIT.
10:18:29 THEY DIDN'T WANT ALL THE
10:18:31 TRAFFIC COMING IN OFF KENNEDY,
10:18:31 SO WE LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITIES
10:18:34 TO SPREAD THE EXPRESS LANE, SO
10:18:36 AS WE STARTED TO ADD MORE
10:18:37 CONNECTIONS ALONG THAT, IT
10:18:38 REALLY STARTED TO TELL US --
10:18:40 ILLUSTRATE TO US THAT THIS WAS
10:18:41 NO LONGER AN EXPRESS LANE, WE
10:18:42 WERE BUILDING ANOTHER CAPACITY
10:18:45 LANE, AND AT THE TIME, THERE
10:18:47 WAS A -- THE DEPARTMENT HAD A
10:18:49 POLICY THAT ALL NEW EXPRESS
10:18:51 LANES ON THE INTERSTATE WOULD
10:18:54 BE EVALUATED FOR TOLL LANES,
10:18:56 FOR TOLL CONNECTIVITY, SO WE
10:18:59 DID -- IN 19 -- OR IN 2015 WE
10:19:01 COMPLETED AN EXPRESS LANE STUDY
10:19:03 FOR THE TAMPA BAY REGION, WHICH
10:19:05 SHOWED US THAT IN ORDER TO
10:19:08 PROVIDE THAT CONGESTION-FREE
10:19:10 CAPACITY THAT YOU WOULD BE
10:19:11 ADDING TO THE INTERCHANGE, YOU
10:19:12 HAD TO TOLL IT, SO THAT'S WHERE
10:19:14 THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT TBX
10:19:16 STARTED TO REALLY HEAT UP.
10:19:17 SO THAT'S WHEN WE INTRODUCED
10:19:19 THE TOLL LANES, WE STARTED
10:19:21 HAVING THE CONVERSATION AGAIN
10:19:23 ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY AT THE
10:19:24 DOWNTOWN, SO IT WAS PRIMARY
10:19:26 LOOKING AT EAST-WEST
10:19:28 CONNECTIVITY, BUT THEN WE ALL
10:19:29 STARTED -- WE ALSO STARTED
10:19:32 LOOKING AT -- YOU KNOW, IN THE
10:19:33 PLAN, THE WHOLE TIME, IF YOU
10:19:35 CAN ENVISION THE 275 PIECE FROM
10:19:36 DOWNTOWN TO THE UNIVERSITY
10:19:37 AREA, THAT INSIDE SHOULDER
10:19:39 THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE, IT
10:19:41 WAS ALWAYS SLATED FOR SOME
10:19:43 FUTURE TRANSPORTATION USE, AND
10:19:46 SO THE IDEA WAS WE WOULD PUT
10:19:48 EXPRESS LANES THROUGH THAT IN
10:19:49 2015, AS PART OF THAT STUDY,
10:19:52 THAT WE WOULD PUT EXPRESS LANES
10:19:54 ON THAT CORRIDOR AND MANAGED
10:19:57 EXPRESS LANES, SO THEY WOULD BE
10:19:58 VARIABLE TOLLED, SO THAT
10:19:59 CONVERSATION STARTED TO HEAT
10:19:59 UP.
10:20:01 SO THIS WAS A CONVERSATION
10:20:03 AROUND 2015-2016 THAT WE WERE
10:20:06 BRINGING OUT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT
10:20:07 THEN ALSO ADDING TO THAT THE
10:20:08 RECONSTRUCTION OF THE
10:20:09 INTERCHANGE IN THE DOWNTOWN
10:20:11 AREA.
10:20:14 SO I WOULD BE KIND TO SAY THE
10:20:15 PERCEPTION WAS LESS THAN WARM.
10:20:17 IT WAS -- YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY,
10:20:18 PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED.
10:20:19 YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BIGGER
10:20:21 CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE IMPACTS
10:20:23 TO THE COMMUNITY BUT ALSO WHAT
10:20:24 DOES THIS MEAN FOR -- YOU KNOW,
10:20:26 ARE THESE TRULY, YOU KNOW, FOR
10:20:27 THE RICH, ARE THEY TRULY GOING
10:20:28 TO BE LANES THAT ONLY CERTAIN
10:20:32 PEOPLE CAN USE, AND WHAT IS
10:20:34 DOES A VARIABLE TOLLED LANE
10:20:35 MEAN?
10:20:36 SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE
10:20:37 REALLY STARTING TO HEAT UP, AND
10:20:38 ABOUT OF WE EVEN GOT AN
10:20:39 OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET OUT
10:20:40 THERE AND TRY TO TALK ABOUT
10:20:42 THIS STUFF OR AS WE WERE, THE
10:20:43 DEPARTMENT DECIDED TO TAKE A
10:20:45 STEP BACK, AND THIS WAS AT THE
10:20:47 SAME TIME THE HOWARD FRANKLAND
10:20:48 BRIDGE, IF YOU RECALL THAT
10:20:49 CONVERSATION WHERE WE WERE
10:20:50 TAKING ONE OF THE AUXILIARY
10:20:52 LANES THAT WAS OUT ON THE
10:20:54 HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, AND WE
10:20:55 WERE GOING TO CONVERT THAT TO
10:20:56 AN EXPRESS LANE.
10:20:58 WELL, THAT ALSO CREATED A LOT
10:20:59 OF CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY
10:21:00 BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE WE WERE
10:21:02 MISLEADING THEM, THAT WE WERE
10:21:04 TAKING AWAY A LANE THAT THEY
10:21:04 CONSIDERED FREE AND CONVERTING
10:21:06 IT -- WHICH WE SAID WE WOULDN'T
10:21:08 DO -- AND CONVERTING IT TO
10:21:10 EXPRESS LANE, SO THE SECRETARY
10:21:13 AT THE TIME, SECRETARY BOXOLD,
10:21:14 SAID, LET'S SLOW DOWN, LET'S
10:21:16 STOP, LET'S REEVALUATE WHAT IT
10:21:18 IS WE WANT TO DO, AND THAT WAS
10:21:19 THE WHOLE RESET CONVERSATION
10:21:21 THAT GENERATED.
10:21:22 SO WE STARTED TALKING.
10:21:24 I MEAN -- AND WE STARTED GOING
10:21:26 AROUND TO THE COMMUNITY AND
10:21:28 GETTING ENGAGED WITH FOLKS, AND
10:21:29 THAT'S WHAT GENERATED THE TB
10:21:31 NEXT CONVERSATION, AND I WOULD
10:21:33 SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDING --
10:21:35 FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
10:21:37 DEPARTMENT AND HOW WE LOOK AT
10:21:38 -- HOW WE LOOK AT ADDING FUTURE
10:21:40 CAPACITY -- I MEAN, AS I SAID
10:21:42 BEFORE, WE CAN'T BUILD OUR WAY
10:21:43 OUT OF THIS.
10:21:45 THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC THAN WE
10:21:46 COULD EVER HOPE TO DESIGN FOR.
10:21:48 WE WOULD BE BUILDING 20-LANE
10:21:49 INTERSTATES IF WE THOUGHT THAT
10:21:51 WAS THE SOLUTION, BUT YOU'VE
10:21:52 GOT TO PROVIDE SOME CONGESTION
10:21:54 RELIEF, YOU'VE GOT TO PROVIDE
10:21:57 SOME CAPACITY.
10:21:58 IF YOU'RE ADDING CAPACITY, IT'S
10:22:02 GOT TO BE MANAGED IN A WAY THAT
10:22:04 -- IN PERPETUITY OR AT LEAST
10:22:06 FOR A PERIOD OF TIME YOU COULD
10:22:08 MANAGE THAT CONGESTION, YOU
10:22:09 COULD PROVIDE SOME FORM OF
10:22:10 TRANSPORTATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN
10:22:12 GET FROM "A" TO "B" WITHIN A
10:22:14 PREDICTABLE TIME.
10:22:16 SO THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND
10:22:16 MANAGED LANES.
10:22:18 I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A -- THIS
10:22:19 WAS NOT A TAMPA DEPARTMENT OF
10:22:20 TRANSPORTATION THING, THIS WAS
10:22:21 -- SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE
10:22:24 TODAY, COUNCILMEN, AND WITH THE
10:22:26 CONVERSATION, THIS IS PART OF
10:22:27 THE STUDY THAT WE'RE LOOKING
10:22:28 AT, AND THIS HAS BEEN -- YOU
10:22:30 KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S EVOLVING.
10:22:31 IT'S STILL ONGOING.
10:22:32 WE'RE STILL EVALUATING
10:22:33 NONTOLLS.
10:22:37 THAT'S STILL PART OF THE
10:22:38 EVALUATION.
10:22:40 I WON'T SAY WE'VE DECIDED IT'S
10:22:41 GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS
10:22:42 BECAUSE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT
10:22:44 THE ORIGINAL EXPRESSWAY PLAN
10:22:45 AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT STILL
10:22:46 HAS MERIT TODAY.
10:22:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO -- BUT
10:22:48 THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU CAN HAVE
10:22:49 MANAGED -- YOU KNOW, MANAGED
10:22:54 LANES, YOU CAN HAVE EFFICIENT
10:22:54 TRANSPORTATION THROUGH THAT
10:22:57 AREA WITHOUT NECESSARILY
10:22:58 CHARGING.
10:22:59 >> BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO
10:23:00 RESTRICT ACCESS.
10:23:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN,
10:23:02 THAT'S JUST AN ENGINEERING
10:23:02 FUNCTION.
10:23:03 >> YEAH.
10:23:05 BUT YOU WOULD RESTRICT ACCESS.
10:23:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE --
10:23:07 RIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW,
10:23:09 RESTRICTING ACCESS TO, YOU
10:23:11 KNOW, GET PEOPLE THROUGH DOES
10:23:14 NOT NECESSARILY MANDATE
10:23:15 CHARGING.
10:23:16 >> RIGHT.
10:23:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:23:19 AND I'M NOT TELLING ANYBODY
10:23:21 HERE SOMETHING NEW, BUT, YOU
10:23:23 KNOW, WE'VE NEVER CHARGED TO BE
10:23:25 ON THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM
10:23:26 PREVIOUSLY.
10:23:28 YES, WE CHARGE UP THE SELMON
10:23:31 AND -- OR OUT THE SELMON AND,
10:23:32 YOU KNOW, UP THROUGH THE
10:23:32 VETERANS AND THAT SORT OF
10:23:35 THING, BUT THOSE WERE BUILT IN
10:23:37 THAT FASHION, BUT I THINK OUR
10:23:38 COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS EXPECTED
10:23:40 TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE
10:23:41 INTERSTATE FOR FREE WITHOUT
10:23:42 FEE.
10:23:43 I'D LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE
10:23:45 THAT WAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR
10:23:45 YOUR --
10:23:48 >> WELL, AS THE OLD SECRETARY
10:23:49 SAID, NOBODY RIDES FOR FREE.
10:23:51 IF YOU PUMP GAS, YOU'RE PAYING
10:23:52 FOR IT.
10:23:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, BUT,
10:23:55 YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS
10:23:56 THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, ALREADY
10:23:57 FEELS LIKE THEY'VE PAID FOR IT,
10:23:58 THEY'RE --
10:23:58 >> YES.
10:24:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: --
10:24:02 CONTINUING TO PAY FOR IT IN
10:24:04 TERMS OF TAXES, ET CETERA, NOT
10:24:05 NECESSARILY THAT IT ALLOWS FOR
10:24:06 PRIVILEGED -- CERTAIN
10:24:09 PRIVILEGED FOLKS TO TRAVEL IN
10:24:12 THOSE LANES, EXCLUDING OTHERS.
10:24:13 >> YES, SIR.
10:24:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:24:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
10:24:18 CARLSON.
10:24:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T HAVE
10:24:20 TO ANSWER THIS TODAY, BUT AS
10:24:21 THIS EVOLVES -- I KNOW IT'S
10:24:22 BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL
10:24:24 YEARS, BUT AS THIS EVOLVES, I
10:24:26 WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AS PART OF
10:24:27 THE UPDATE WHICH OF THE
10:24:29 ALTERNATIVES -- I'M TALKING
10:24:31 ABOUT THE NORTHBOUND 275 --
10:24:33 WHICH OF THE ALTERNATIVES HAVE
10:24:34 THE LEAST IMPACT ON THE
10:24:35 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:24:37 I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE LOTS OF
10:24:37 MEETINGS WITH THE
10:24:38 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEIR
10:24:39 CONCERN IS RIPPING THROUGH
10:24:41 HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND HISTORIC
10:24:41 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:24:42 I KNOW THAT'S A LONG DISCUSSION
10:24:44 AND WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT
10:24:45 BEFORE, BUT WOULD LOVE TO KNOW
10:24:46 WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS FROM THE
10:24:47 NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHICH ONES
10:24:49 HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT.
10:24:52 ALSO, IN RESPONSE TO
10:24:54 GRASS-ROOTS, AT LEAST FROM MY
10:24:55 PERCEPTION, THE RESPONSE TO
10:24:56 GRASS-ROOTS, YOU ALL WERE
10:24:59 GENEROUS A FEW YEARS AGO IN
10:25:02 CONTRIBUTING SOME MONEY TO WHAT
10:25:02 BECAME -- THE NAME CHANGED
10:25:06 SEVERAL TIMES BUT THE PREMIUM
10:25:07 TRANSIT STUDY.
10:25:08 >> RIGHT.
10:25:09 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE
10:25:10 CRITICISMS IN THAT PROCESS IS
10:25:12 IT DIDN'T INCLUDE ENOUGH PUBLIC
10:25:13 ENGAGEMENT, AND I HAD SEVERAL
10:25:14 CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FORMER
10:25:15 CEO OF HART AND OTHERS
10:25:18 SUGGESTING -- YOU KNOW, PRO
10:25:19 BONO SUGGESTING IDEAS ON HOW TO
10:25:21 ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC, HOW TO
10:25:22 WORK WITH THE PUBLIC, AND THEIR
10:25:23 PUSHBACK WAS THEY DIDN'T HAVE
10:25:25 ENOUGH MONEY, AND WE IN THE
10:25:27 COMMUNITY SAID, GO ASK D.O.T.
10:25:29 OR WHOEVER FOR MONEY.
10:25:30 IF YOU ALL DO SOMETHING LIKE
10:25:32 THAT IN THE FUTURE, I HOPE YOU
10:25:33 WILL PUT A BIG REQUIREMENT OF
10:25:34 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THERE.
10:25:35 YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE NEW
10:25:38 FOLKS HERE WHO WERE ELECTED ARE
10:25:41 GREAT EXAMPLES OF HOW THE
10:25:42 GRASS-ROOTS NOW RUNS
10:25:42 EVERYTHING, NOT SOME OF THE
10:25:44 TRADITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND
10:25:45 ALTHOUGH MANY OF US ARE PART OF
10:25:47 THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, THE
10:25:48 GRASS-ROOTS DRIVE EVERYTHING,
10:25:49 AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
10:25:50 STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE
10:25:51 GRASS-ROOTS, AND THE ONLY WAY A
10:25:53 PUBLIC ORGANIZATION CAN DO THAT
10:25:54 IS THROUGH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
10:25:55 ALONG THOSE LINES, THERE'S A
10:26:00 BIG CRY FOR SOME KIND OF RAIL,
10:26:02 AND THEN THERE'S ALSO CRIES ON
10:26:03 THE OTHER SIDE NOT FOR RAIL.
10:26:05 I KNOW THAT THE NEW CEO OF HART
10:26:08 IS TALKING TO CSX.
10:26:11 AT LEAST UNDER THE LAST
10:26:12 GOVERNOR THERE WAS A FEELING
10:26:15 THAT WE SHOULDN'T FUND ANYTHING
10:26:16 RELATED TO RAIL.
10:26:18 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT
10:26:22 TEMPERATURE IS IF -- IF HART --
10:26:23 HYPOTHETICALLY IF HART COMES UP
10:26:26 WITH SOME DEAL WITH CSX, IS IT
10:26:27 POSSIBLE FOR D.O.T. TO
10:26:28 PARTICIPATE OR IS THAT OFF THE
10:26:28 TABLE?
10:26:30 >> WELL, I THINK WE'VE SAID ALL
10:26:33 ALONG, AND AS I ILLUSTRATE IN
10:26:34 MY -- YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE A
10:26:35 PARTNER, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A
10:26:37 -- THE FIRST THING -- THE FIRST
10:26:41 CHALLENGE IN THAT IS CSX -- FOR
10:26:42 CSX TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT A
10:26:43 CONVERSATION, THEY HAVE TO KNOW
10:26:44 THAT THERE'S REAL MONEY
10:26:45 INVOLVED IN THIS, RIGHT, IT
10:26:47 CAN'T JUST BE A CONVERSATION
10:26:48 ABOUT WE MIGHT GET SOME MONEY
10:26:50 OR WE MIGHT USE THE TAX FOR
10:26:50 THIS.
10:26:52 THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT THERE'S
10:26:53 -- THAT SOMEBODY IS SERIOUS FOR
10:26:56 THEM TO SERIOUSLY ENGAGE IN
10:26:57 THAT CONVERSATION.
10:26:58 IF -- AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED --
10:26:59 ILLUSTRATED AND WE'VE PRESENTED
10:27:02 THIS, AND WE CAN COME BACK TO
10:27:04 THIS BOARD AND PRESENT IT
10:27:05 AGAIN, IS FOR US TO -- FOR US
10:27:07 TO BE -- WE'RE GOING TO BE THE
10:27:09 BIGGEST FUNDING PARTNER OUTSIDE
10:27:10 OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
10:27:12 YOU KNOW, D.O.T. IS COMMITTED,
10:27:13 AND WE'VE SAID THAT -- YOU
10:27:16 KNOW, WE'VE COMMITTED 25% OF
10:27:17 THE FUNDING, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
10:27:20 NORMALLY CONTRIBUTES ABOUT 50%
10:27:21 OF THE FUNDING, BUT THEN
10:27:22 THERE'S THE 25% THAT HAS TO
10:27:24 COME FROM SOMEONE ELSE, RIGHT,
10:27:25 EITHER THE CITY, THE COUNTY,
10:27:27 ANOTHER AGENCY, AND THEN
10:27:28 THERE'S THE OPERATION AND
10:27:29 MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD HAVE TO
10:27:31 GO ALONG WITH THAT, SO THERE
10:27:32 HAS TO BE A STRONG FUNDING
10:27:36 PARTNER ON THE -- ON THAT 25%
10:27:39 PLUS ALL THE OTHER COSTS, BUT
10:27:40 WE WILL BE THERE, AS WE ARE
10:27:42 WITH -- RIGHT NOW, A GOOD
10:27:43 EXAMPLE IS THE CENTRAL AVENUE
10:27:46 BRT THAT'S GOING ON IN PINELLAS
10:27:47 COUNTY.
10:27:49 WE ARE -- WE'RE LOCK, STOCK
10:27:52 WITH PSTA TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN,
10:27:55 AND WE'RE -- JUST LIKE WITH
10:27:58 THE TBARTA STUDY, WE'RE LOCK,
10:27:59 STOCK, YOU KNOW, WITH THEM TO
10:28:00 MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
10:28:01 WE'VE GOT TO FIND OTHER
10:28:02 SOLUTIONS, COUNCILMAN.
10:28:03 I CAN'T ILLUSTRATE THAT POINT
10:28:04 ENOUGH.
10:28:05 WE'VE GOT TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO
10:28:06 GET PEOPLE MOVING AROUND THIS
10:28:07 AREA.
10:28:09 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL
10:28:10 FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO
10:28:11 PARTNER WITH EVERYBODY.
10:28:12 ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION, AND
10:28:13 THIS IS A BIG QUESTION, BUT WE
10:28:16 CAN SPEAK SHORTLY ABOUT IT NOW
10:28:17 AND MORE LATER.
10:28:18 HOW REAL DO YOU THINK THE
10:28:20 BRIGHTLINE PROPOSAL IS FOR
10:28:21 TAMPA AND HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT
10:28:22 THESE PLANS?
10:28:24 >> WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT
10:28:25 THE PLAN FOR ME.
10:28:26 PERSONALLY, I THINK THEY'RE
10:28:27 PRETTY SERIOUS.
10:28:28 I MEAN, THEY'RE -- I THINK
10:28:30 RICHARD BRANSON HAS MADE IT
10:28:32 VERY CLEAR THAT HE WANTS TO
10:28:33 COME TO TAMPA.
10:28:34 MAYBE WHEN THE SECRETARY COMES
10:28:36 UP, I'LL LET HIM GIVE THE
10:28:36 DEPARTMENT'S POSITION.
10:28:38 I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING.
10:28:38 WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH
10:28:39 THEM.
10:28:41 WE ARE ENGAGED WITH THEM, AND
10:28:42 AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING THEIR
10:28:43 PLANS -- RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE
10:28:45 PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE EAST
10:28:46 COAST, BUT WE HAVE HAD
10:28:47 CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, AND WE
10:28:49 ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HOW WE
10:28:50 CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO
10:28:52 WORKS WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING
10:28:52 TO DO.
10:28:55 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:28:57 LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU
10:28:58 MORE.
10:28:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
10:28:59 MANISCALCO.
10:28:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU
10:29:00 VERY MUCH.
10:29:01 AS I SAID BEFORE, I'VE ALWAYS
10:29:02 BEEN FASCINATED WITH THE
10:29:04 INTERSTATE AND THE HISTORY OF
10:29:05 THE INTERSTATE, THE EISENHOWER
10:29:06 INTERSTATE SYSTEM, AND HOW IT
10:29:08 CAME TO PLAY -- TO FRUITION
10:29:11 AFTER WORLD WAR II IN THE 1950s
10:29:13 AND WHATNOT.
10:29:14 IN STUDYING IT, I KNOW WHEN IT
10:29:16 FIRST WAS LAID OUT -- YOU KNOW,
10:29:17 IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE
10:29:19 TAMPA TRIBUNE, FOR EXAMPLE.
10:29:20 I PULLED UP THAT ISSUE, AND,
10:29:21 YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT OUR
10:29:22 PLANS ARE AND WE'RE GOING TO
10:29:23 COME THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS
10:29:24 AND IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH
10:29:25 YBOR CITY AND WEST TAMPA AND
10:29:27 WHATNOT, AND IT'S GROWN SINCE
10:29:29 THEN, BUT THE BOULEVARD STUDY
10:29:32 IS FASCINATING.
10:29:33 COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED
10:29:35 YESTERDAY AT THE -- YOU KNOW,
10:29:36 YESTERDAY AT THE MPO MEETING
10:29:38 MOVING FORWARD TO LOOK AT THAT.
10:29:40 SO, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY OVER
10:29:41 THE LAST 60 YEARS,
10:29:42 NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN
10:29:43 DIVIDED.
10:29:45 YOU HAD URBAN RENEWAL.
10:29:46 YBOR CITY WAS SPLIT IN TWO.
10:29:47 AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES
10:29:50 WERE COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED.
10:29:52 I MEAN, LOOK AT CENTRAL AVENUE.
10:29:56 NOTHING EXISTS THERE, BUT IT'S
10:29:58 COMING BACK FULL CIRCLE BECAUSE
10:30:00 SHOULD THIS BOULEVARD PROJECT
10:30:01 EVER COME TO FRUITION -- I KNOW
10:30:03 THE DISCUSSION -- YOU KNOW, THE
10:30:05 THOUGHT PROCESS IS BEGINNING
10:30:05 NOW.
10:30:05 IT'LL HELP RECONNECT
10:30:06 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:30:08 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THIS
10:30:09 HIGHWAY GOING THROUGH, ALL THIS
10:30:11 CONCRETE CANNOT BE RECONNECTED.
10:30:13 YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE
10:30:15 NOT ON THE TAX ROLLS NOW THAT
10:30:17 WILL THEN IN THE FUTURE BE ON
10:30:19 THE TAX ROLLS.
10:30:20 AND I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S
10:30:23 HAPPENING BECAUSE IT GIVES SOME
10:30:25 HOPE, ESPECIALLY TO COMMUNITIES
10:30:26 THAT HAVE BEEN ESSENTIALLY
10:30:29 DECIMATED BECAUSE OF THE
10:30:31 HIGHWAY SYSTEM, AND, YOU KNOW,
10:30:34 ALTHOUGH IT'S TAKEN 60 YEARS,
10:30:34 NOW WE'RE HAVING THAT
10:30:36 DISCUSSION THAT POSSIBLY WE CAN
10:30:38 RECONNECT AND REINVIGORATE
10:30:41 THAT.
10:30:43 I'VE NEVER LIKED THE EXPRESS
10:30:44 TOLL LANES.
10:30:46 I'VE CONSISTENTLY VOTED AGAINST
10:30:48 THE TBX ON ANY KIND OF EXPRESS
10:30:49 LANES BECAUSE HOW MY DISTRICT
10:30:51 IS LAID OUT, THE INTERSTATE
10:30:52 GOES RIGHT THROUGH, AND MY JOB
10:30:53 IS TO STAND UP FOR AND PROTECT
10:30:55 THE COMMUNITIES THAT I
10:30:56 REPRESENT AND THE PEOPLE, AND I
10:30:57 KNOW YOU'VE HAD THE PUBLIC
10:30:58 DISCUSSIONS, AND YOU'RE --
10:31:00 YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL.
10:31:01 YOU AND THE SECRETARY AND
10:31:04 MR. ROSCOE AND MR. BENSON, VERY
10:31:05 RESPONSIVE.
10:31:06 I HEAR THAT FROM PEOPLE ALL THE
10:31:08 TIME, WE NEED SOMETHING, YOU
10:31:09 ANSWER; THE PUBLIC NEEDS
10:31:10 SOMETHING, I SEE, YOU KNOW,
10:31:11 RESPONSES.
10:31:12 BUT MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW,
10:31:15 WE HAVE TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST AND
10:31:17 COMMUNITIES FIRST AND BE
10:31:19 PEOPLE-CENTRIC AND NOT SO MUCH
10:31:20 CAR-CENTRIC.
10:31:22 I THINK THE WORLD IS CHANGING.
10:31:23 I THINK, YOU KNOW, MILLENNIALS
10:31:24 AND YOUNGER GENERATIONS ARE
10:31:26 PULLING AWAY FROM THE
10:31:27 AUTOMOBILE FOCUS AND SAYING,
10:31:28 YOU KNOW, WE WANT ALTERNATIVES.
10:31:29 I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT
10:31:31 EXPANDING THE STREETCAR SYSTEM.
10:31:34 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CSX, WE'RE
10:31:35 TALKING ABOUT BRIGHTLINE
10:31:36 BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT DIFFERENT
10:31:37 OPTIONS, AND NOT EVERYBODY CAN
10:31:39 AFFORD A CAR BECAUSE IT'S --
10:31:41 THE VEHICLE, ARE THE PAYMENTS,
10:31:42 THE MAINTENANCE, THE INSURANCE,
10:31:45 THE GASOLINE, EVERYTHING, BUT I
10:31:47 THINK WE'RE MOVING IN A
10:31:48 POSITIVE DIRECTION.
10:31:49 I KNOW YOU COME HERE EVERY
10:31:51 QUARTER TO UPDATE US, AND YOU
10:31:54 DO COME TO THE MPO, AND I WANT
10:31:56 TO ASK YOU, DO YOU FEEL IT
10:31:59 NECESSARY TO COME EVERY THREE
10:32:00 MONTHS CONSIDERING HOW -- YOU
10:32:01 KNOW, I MEAN, SOME CHANGES CAN
10:32:03 BE MADE RIGHT AWAY, BUT
10:32:04 OVERALL, THESE ARE LONG-TERM
10:32:05 PLANS.
10:32:06 WOULD YOU BE MORE COMFORTABLE
10:32:08 COMING HERE EVERY SIX MONTHS?
10:32:09 I MEAN, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
10:32:10 THAT?
10:32:12 >> WELL, I THINK -- WE'RE GOING
10:32:14 TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, AND I HOPE
10:32:15 MANY OF YOU CAN ATTEND THE
10:32:16 WORKSHOP AND HEAR FOR YOURSELF,
10:32:18 YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE ARE
10:32:18 SAYING.
10:32:20 I THINK IT WOULD BE -- IT MIGHT
10:32:23 BE VALUABLE, IT -- MAYBE AFTER
10:32:24 THE SUMMER WE COME BACK AND
10:32:25 PRESENT SOME OF THE RESULTS AND
10:32:27 FINDINGS, BUT THEN AFTER THAT,
10:32:28 IT'S GOING TO BE A PERIOD OF
10:32:28 TIME BEFORE WE'RE SUBMITTING
10:32:31 THE DRAFT DOCUMENT, PROBABLY
10:32:32 SOMETIME AROUND THE EARLY PART
10:32:35 OF NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE
10:32:36 SUBMITTING THE DRAFT DOCUMENT
10:32:38 WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO FEDERAL
10:32:39 HIGHWAY FOR APPROVAL, AND THEN
10:32:41 THERE'S GOING TO BE A LONG
10:32:42 STRETCH OF TIME WHERE IT'S JUST
10:32:45 GOING TO BE KIND OF QUIET --
10:32:46 WELL, I SAY QUIET; IN OTHER
10:32:48 WORDS, WE'RE WORKING IT OUT
10:32:49 WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY ON THE
10:32:52 FINAL DETAILS OF A FINAL STUDY,
10:32:54 SO I -- YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE
10:32:55 FINE WITH SIX MONTHS, OR IF WE
10:32:57 HAVE SOMETHING NEW THAT'S
10:32:58 HAPPENING TO SHARE WITH YOU, WE
10:33:00 WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
10:33:01 COME AND SHARE IT WITH YOU --
10:33:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
10:33:06 >> -- OR ONE-ON-ONE BECAUSE --
10:33:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE'LL
10:33:09 WAIT UNTIL YOU COME NEXT TIME,
10:33:10 WE'LL SEE WHAT IS ON THAT
10:33:12 REPORT AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW,
10:33:13 MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU GUYS TO
10:33:14 COME BACK EVERY SIX MONTHS.
10:33:15 WE'LL SEE.
10:33:16 WE'LL PLAY IT BY EAR, BUT AT
10:33:18 LEAST YOU KNOW THAT'S ON MY
10:33:19 MIND.
10:33:20 >> OKAY.
10:33:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
10:33:21 VIERA.
10:33:21 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD STRONGLY
10:33:24 FAVOR THE CONTINUED QUARTERLY.
10:33:26 YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION I
10:33:27 THINK IS THE PRESSING ISSUE FOR
10:33:29 ALL OF US HERE IN ALL OF OUR
10:33:30 DISTRICTS AND IN THE CITY.
10:33:31 WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF
10:33:32 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
10:33:33 FOR ME THERE WAS NO GREATER
10:33:34 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAN THE VOTE
10:33:35 THAT HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER OF
10:33:37 2018 WITH ALL FOR
10:33:39 TRANSPORTATION, WHEN ALMOST
10:33:42 3-IN-5 RESIDENTS IN
10:33:43 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO VOTED
10:33:45 ON IT SAID, RAISE MY TAXES
10:33:47 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW FRUSTRATED I
10:33:48 AM WITH THE TRANSPORTATION
10:33:48 SITUATION.
10:33:50 THAT WAS A MANDATE, I THINK,
10:33:52 FOR ALL OF US, SO I PERSONALLY
10:33:54 THINK THAT QUARTERLY IS --
10:33:56 BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPRESSING,
10:33:57 COMPELLING ISSUE, SO JUST MY
10:33:58 TWO CENTS.
10:33:59 >> OKAY.
10:34:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
10:34:00 GUDES.
10:34:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU,
10:34:02 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:34:06 WHEN I FIRST MET YOU, IT WAS A
10:34:08 PLEASURE, AND WE ALWAYS TALK
10:34:10 ABOUT THAT 25%, 25%.
10:34:15 BUT I GET CONFUSED WHEN I SEE
10:34:16 THIS MAGNITUDE OF MONEY FOR
10:34:18 INTERSTATE, BUT YET WE HAVE ALL
10:34:19 THIS RAILROAD, SO I DON'T
10:34:21 UNDERSTAND HOW WE DON'T SWITCH
10:34:22 GEARS TO LOOK AT OUR RAILROAD
10:34:24 TRACKS WITH ALL THIS MONEY
10:34:25 WE'RE SPENDING HERE, BUT YET WE
10:34:28 TALK ABOUT THIS 25%.
10:34:29 IT'S RATHER CONFUSING TO ME, SO
10:34:32 I NEED TO KIND OF GET A FOCAL
10:34:34 ON WHY IS THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE
10:34:35 SAYING WE HAVE ALL THESE TRACKS
10:34:37 THAT ARE RUNNING THROUGH ALL
10:34:38 KIND OF LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES,
10:34:40 DOWNTOWN, THE NORTH END, WHY
10:34:42 ARE WE NOT FOCUSED -- WITH ALL
10:34:44 THIS MONEY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
10:34:46 BUILDING ON AN INTERSTATE --
10:34:47 FOCUS ON A RAILROAD SYSTEM
10:34:49 THAT'S ALREADY LAID DOWN OR IN
10:34:50 IT NEGOTIATIONS WITH CSX
10:34:53 BECAUSE YOU SAID, WELL, THEY
10:34:54 WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
10:34:55 MONEY.
10:34:56 WELL, OBVIOUSLY, D.O.T. HAS
10:34:57 MONEY SOMEWHERE BECAUSE WE'RE
10:34:59 PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO AN
10:35:00 INTERSTATE, SO I THINK WE NEED
10:35:02 TO LOOK AT CHANGING GEARS.
10:35:03 I KNOW THE SECRETARY'S GOING TO
10:35:04 COME FORWARD, BUT I NEED TO
10:35:06 UNDERSTAND A NEW DIRECTIVE
10:35:09 BECAUSE TO ME AN OLD BALL COACH
10:35:12 TOLD ME, WHICH I'M ONE TWO, WHO
10:35:13 SAID, EXCUSES STAND FOR
10:35:13 FAILURE.
10:35:15 TO ME, WE CONTINUE TO FAIL
10:35:16 BECAUSE WE'RE REHASHING THE
10:35:17 SAME THING.
10:35:18 WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW TRACK,
10:35:20 AND I'M LOOKING FOR A NEW TRACK
10:35:22 WITH FDOT TO SAY WE NEED TO BE
10:35:24 FOCUSED ON THESE RAIL SYSTEMS
10:35:26 BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM NOW VS.
10:35:30 THE INTERSTATE BECAUSE AS
10:35:32 MR. MANISCALCO SAID, PEOPLE
10:35:34 CAN'T AFFORD CARS NOW.
10:35:35 ONE PAYCHECK AWAY AND
10:35:38 EVERYTHING GOES BAD.
10:35:40 BRAKES GO DOWN.
10:35:41 I'VE GOT TO GET TO WORK.
10:35:43 I'VE GOT TO CATCH A BUS, I'VE
10:35:45 GOT TO CATCH A RIDE.
10:35:46 NOBODY WANTS TO GIVE ME A RIDE.
10:35:47 I'VE GOT TO PAY SOMEBODY FOR
10:35:48 GAS.
10:35:53 SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE
10:35:55 PEOPLE VS. THE BIG DOLLARS
10:35:56 WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD AND
10:35:58 LOOK AT WHAT THE PEOPLE REALLY
10:35:59 WANT AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING
10:35:59 FOR.
10:36:02 IF WE'VE NOT ALL THIS MONEY AND
10:36:04 ARE SAYING WE WANT RAIL, WE
10:36:06 HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE TRACKS.
10:36:07 WE HAVE TO BE FOCUSED ON THOSE
10:36:08 TRACKS.
10:36:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
10:36:10 QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS?
10:36:12 MR. McKINNEY, YOU GET ME NOW.
10:36:13 >> ALL RIGHT.
10:36:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AFTER THE 80 OR
10:36:15 SO MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN AT,
10:36:16 I'VE DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP
10:36:20 NOT ONLY WITH YOU BUT WITH
10:36:25 MR. GWYNN AND MR. BENSON AND
10:36:28 ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR
10:36:32 FDOT, FDOT, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT
10:36:33 OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:36:34 OUR NEEDS IN TAMPA ARE
10:36:35 MULTILEVEL, STATE, COUNTY,
10:36:40 CITY, BUT WE HAVE OVER
10:36:43 100,000-PLUS PEOPLE COMING INTO
10:36:44 OUR DOWNTOWN CORE EACH AND
10:36:47 EVERY DAY, AND THE PEOPLE THAT
10:36:50 IT'S AFFECTING MOST ARE THE
10:36:51 CITIZENS OF TAMPA, POLLUTION,
10:36:55 NOISE, AIR POLLUTION, TRAFFIC.
10:36:57 I THINK THAT IF WE GET THOSE
10:36:58 PEOPLE OR START THINKING ABOUT
10:37:00 THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO
10:37:02 CAR-CENTRIC COMING FROM POLK,
10:37:04 PASCO, HERNANDO, MANATEE, AND
10:37:05 PINELLAS COUNTY EACH AND EVERY
10:37:07 DAY TO COME TO WORK IN TAMPA,
10:37:10 IF WE GIVE THEM AN OPTION --
10:37:12 NOW, I'M NOT SURE OF YOUR
10:37:13 RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT YOU STILL
10:37:15 HAVE, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE SOME
10:37:21 SORT OF RAIL, RAPID BUS THAT
10:37:22 HAS DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAYS,
10:37:23 WHICH IS MORE THAN ONE
10:37:25 PERSON/ONE CAR, IF WE CAN START
10:37:26 THINKING IN THAT DIRECTION, I
10:37:28 WOULD BE MUCH HAPPIER, AND I'M
10:37:29 SURE A LOT OF THE CITIZENS OF
10:37:31 TAMPA WOULD BE A LOT HAPPIER,
10:37:33 SO HOPEFULLY I CAN PUT A BUG IN
10:37:38 YOUR EAR, AND THE NEXT TIME WE
10:37:39 SEE EACH OTHER, YOU CAN GIVE US
10:37:40 NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BUT I'M SURE
10:37:41 THERE ARE DEDICATED
10:37:42 RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT YOU STILL
10:37:45 OWN -- EXCUSE ME, NOT YOU --
10:37:48 FDOT STILL OWNS ALONG 75, 275,
10:37:49 LEE ROY SELMON, AND CROSSTOWN,
10:37:51 THAT COULD BE USED FOR SOME
10:37:55 SORT OF MASS PUBLIC
10:37:55 TRANSPORTATION.
10:37:57 >> AND IF I COULD ANSWER THAT,
10:37:58 COUNCILMAN, I'D LOVE TO SAY
10:38:01 THIS IS WHAT -- THIS MAY OR MAY
10:38:03 NOT BE WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR,
10:38:05 BUT THIS IS WHAT EXPRESS LANE,
10:38:06 DYNAMIC TOLL LANE -- THIS IS
10:38:08 THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES, IT
10:38:10 PROVIDES A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR
10:38:12 CONGESTION-FREE MASS TRANSIT OR
10:38:14 REGIONAL TRANSIT BECAUSE BUSES
10:38:16 DON'T PAY TO USE THE SYSTEM, SO
10:38:17 IF YOU HAVE A VARIABLE TOLLED
10:38:20 SYSTEM THAT OPERATES AT A
10:38:21 CERTAIN SPEED, LET'S SAY 45
10:38:23 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH IS THE
10:38:26 DESIRED SPEED IN A VARIABLE
10:38:28 TOLLED SYSTEM AND YOU'VE GOT
10:38:29 TRAFFIC ON THE GENERAL PURPOSE
10:38:31 LANES AT A STANDSTILL OR GOING
10:38:33 SLOW, THAT -- NOW YOU'RE GIVING
10:38:37 PEOPLE A REASON WHY YOU WANT TO
10:38:38 TAKE A TRANSIT SYSTEM BECAUSE
10:38:39 YOU HAVE PREFERENCE OVER THE
10:38:40 TRAFFIC THAT'S SITTING IN THE
10:38:41 GENERAL PURPOSE AND YOU DIDN'T
10:38:47 HAVE TO PAY A TOLL TO DO IT, SO
10:38:48 I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE A CONCERN
10:38:49 ABOUT THE TRANSIT AND THE COST
10:38:51 AND SO FORTH, BUT THERE'S A
10:38:53 HUGE BENEFIT IF YOU THINK ABOUT
10:38:54 HOW TRANSIT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED
10:38:56 WITHIN THOSE VARIABLE TOLLED
10:38:56 SYSTEMS.
10:38:58 YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY GO FROM
10:39:01 -- IF YOU HAD A SYSTEM, AS THAT
10:39:02 MAP ILLUSTRATED, YOU COULD
10:39:04 CONCEIVABLY GO FROM THE BORDER
10:39:04 OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO
10:39:09 DOWNTOWN ST. PETE ON A VARIABLE
10:39:12 TOLLED SYSTEM AND PROBABLY GET
10:39:14 THERE FASTER THAN YOU WOULD GET
10:39:15 IF YOU TOOK A CAR.
10:39:15 THAT WOULD ENTICE SOMEBODY TO
10:39:15 SAY, WELL, NOW I'VE EXTENDED MY
10:39:15 JOB MARKET AND ALSO I GOT
10:39:15 MYSELF OUT OF A CAR, AND IT
10:39:22 ALSO IT GIVES ME A REASON TO DO
10:39:24 IT BECAUSE THE REASON I'M IN MY
10:39:25 CAR IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S
10:39:27 MINE, IT GETS ME THERE, IT
10:39:28 TAKES ME FROM "A" TO "B."
10:39:30 THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS WHY
10:39:32 PEOPLE TAKE A CAR, BUT IF YOU
10:39:33 CAN GIVE THEM AN ADVANTAGE, IF
10:39:36 YOU CAN SHOW THEM WHY THERE'S A
10:39:37 HUGE ADVANTAGE FOR THEM TO USE
10:39:39 A TRANSIT SYSTEM, TO ME THAT'S
10:39:43 A HUGE PART OF THIS, AND I
10:39:44 DON'T WANT THAT TO BE
10:39:45 DISCOUNTED.
10:39:46 REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU FEEL
10:39:48 ABOUT MANAGED LANES OR THAT
10:39:49 SYSTEM, THERE ARE HUGE BENEFITS
10:39:51 TO PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF
10:39:55 MANAGED SYSTEM FOR TRANSIT.
10:39:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW, IF I COULD
10:39:57 REBUTTAL TO THAT.
10:39:57 >> SURE.
10:39:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL WE HAVE TO
10:40:01 DO IS LOOK AT THE VETERANS,
10:40:04 275, AND I-4 FOR A CRASH TO SEE
10:40:06 WHAT KIND OF A PARKING LOT THAT
10:40:07 TURNS INTO.
10:40:08 AGAIN, WITH A DEDICATED
10:40:09 RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR RAIL OR BUS,
10:40:13 THAT WILL MOVE FASTER THAN ANY
10:40:14 TRAFFIC ACCIDENT ON ANY ROAD.
10:40:16 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:40:16 THANK YOU, MR. McKINNEY.
10:40:17 >> THANK YOU.
10:40:20 IF I COULD, SECRETARY GWYNN
10:40:25 WOULD LIKE TO JUST --
10:40:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:40:26 >> THANK YOU.
10:40:26 I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:40:26 MEET MOST OF YOU, AND I HOPE TO
10:40:28 SPEND SOME MORE TIME WITH ALL
10:40:28 OF YOU, AND ED COVERED A LOT,
10:40:28 SO I WON'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF
10:40:29 YOUR TIME, BUT THERE ARE A FEW
10:40:31 ITEMS I DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE
10:40:32 THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE
10:40:34 DEPARTMENT, HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE
10:40:36 YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER VIEW OF
10:40:38 WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN THE
10:40:39 NEAR-TERM WITH SOME OF OUR
10:40:40 INITIATIVES.
10:40:42 FIRST, AS FAR AS THE SEIS, I
10:40:43 THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW THE
10:40:45 SEIS, WHICH WE'RE HAVING A
10:40:46 WORKSHOP COMING UP, WAS THE
10:40:48 CULMINATION OF THE -- WE WANT
10:40:49 TO CALL IT THE DEPTH OF TBX.
10:40:51 IT WAS WE WERE GOING TO TAKE A
10:40:52 FRESH LOOK AT THIS.
10:40:54 WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING AT
10:40:55 WESTSHORE, DOWNTOWN
10:40:58 INTERCHANGE, OR ANYWHERE IN
10:40:59 BETWEEN WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION
10:41:01 OF THIS SEIS, WHICH HAS TO BE
10:41:03 APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
10:41:04 ADMINISTRATION.
10:41:05 THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AND
10:41:06 THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE ARE
10:41:07 VERY DIFFERENT IN A LOT OF
10:41:07 WAYS.
10:41:08 ONE -- PROBABLY THE BIGGEST
10:41:09 THING RIGHT NOW IS, IS THERE'S
10:41:12 A LOT OF SUPPORT TO BUILD THE
10:41:14 WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE, TO BUILD
10:41:15 THE IMPROVEMENTS OVER ON THE
10:41:16 WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER.
10:41:18 THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT
10:41:19 RIGHT NOW TO DO THE
10:41:21 IMPROVEMENTS -- SIMILAR TYPE OF
10:41:23 IMPROVEMENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN
10:41:23 INTERCHANGE, AND WE UNDERSTAND
10:41:24 THAT.
10:41:25 WE ALSO KNOW THAT BRIGHTLINE,
10:41:26 VERY WELL, IS PROBABLY GOING TO
10:41:28 COME IN SOMEWHERE IN THE
10:41:29 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AREA.
10:41:30 ALL OF THAT HAS LED US TO ASK
10:41:31 THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
10:41:32 ADMINISTRATION TO ALLOW US TO
10:41:36 SEPARATE THE TWO, TO ALLOW US
10:41:37 TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
10:41:38 WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE AND GET
10:41:39 THAT GOING, HOPEFULLY BEFORE
10:41:41 THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE IS
10:41:42 COMPLETE AND THAT TRAFFIC HAS
10:41:43 BIGGER CAPACITY TO GET ACROSS
10:41:46 THE BRIDGE AND TO PUT THE
10:41:47 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE, IF YOU
10:41:49 WOULD, TO THE SIDE FOR A WHILE.
10:41:50 MAYBE THAT'S TEN YEARS.
10:41:51 WHO KNOWS FOR RIGHT NOW HOW
10:41:53 LONG IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT WE
10:41:54 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALL
10:41:55 OF IT ANYWAY, AND SO OUR
10:41:56 REQUEST TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
10:41:57 ADMINISTRATION IS WHY MAKE US
10:41:58 MAKE A CHOICE ON THIS
10:42:00 INTERCHANGE WHEN WE DON'T KNOW,
10:42:02 REALLY, WHAT IT MIGHT -- THE
10:42:03 RIGHT SOLUTION MIGHT BE RIGHT
10:42:04 NOW AND WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO
10:42:05 MAKE THE DECISION RIGHT NOW.
10:42:07 UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU DEAL
10:42:08 WITH SOMETIMES FEDERAL
10:42:09 AGENCIES, THEY HAVE A LOT OF
10:42:11 POLICIES, THEY HAVE A LOT OF
10:42:13 REGULATIONS, AND IT'S VERY
10:42:14 TOUGH SOMETIMES TO WHAT I
10:42:15 CONSIDER TO BE A COMMONSENSE
10:42:17 DECISION TO GET TO BE MADE AT
10:42:18 THAT LEVEL.
10:42:20 AND SO SO FAR THEY'VE BEEN
10:42:21 HOLDING US TO MAKE THE DECISION
10:42:23 ON BOTH INTERCHANGES AT THE
10:42:25 SAME TIME.
10:42:27 WHAT I CAN COMMIT TO YOU THAT
10:42:28 IS IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET
10:42:29 FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION
10:42:31 TO ALLOW US TO SEPARATE THE
10:42:33 TWO, WE HAVE NO INTENTION RIGHT
10:42:34 NOW TO DO A MAJOR INTERCHANGE
10:42:36 IMPROVEMENT AT THE DOWNTOWN
10:42:37 INTERCHANGE.
10:42:38 WE'VE HEARD THE PUBLIC, WE'VE
10:42:40 HEARD THE CONCERNS, WE
10:42:41 UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
10:42:43 TRANSIT, WITH BRIGHTLINE, WITH
10:42:44 OTHER THINGS.
10:42:46 IT MAY IMPACT THIS INTERCHANGE
10:42:47 IN OUR DECISION, AND WE DON'T
10:42:49 FEEL RIGHT NOW WE'RE READY TO
10:42:50 MAKE IT, BUT IF WE DO HAVE TO
10:42:52 MAKE A DECISION, I CAN COMMIT
10:42:53 TO YOU IT'S NOT ON OUR RADAR TO
10:42:54 IMPLEMENT THAT DECISION.
10:42:56 WE WANT TO MOVE ON DOWN -- OR
10:42:57 ON THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE
10:42:59 AND NOT THE DOWNTOWN
10:43:00 INTERCHANGE.
10:43:01 WHAT WE DO WANT TO DO ON THE
10:43:03 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE, THOUGH,
10:43:04 IS WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE
10:43:06 SAFETY CONCERN THAT IS THERE
10:43:06 TODAY.
10:43:08 THERE'S ABOUT 1500 CRASHES A
10:43:11 YEAR, 1500 A YEAR IN THE
10:43:12 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE.
10:43:13 A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THAT
10:43:15 PORTION JUST NORTH OF THE
10:43:16 INTERCHANGE.
10:43:18 A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE
10:43:21 REALLY HARD TIME IT TAKES TO
10:43:25 GET TO THE I-4 EXIT WITH THAT
10:43:26 ONE LANE AND THE PEOPLE COMING
10:43:29 IN FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING
10:43:31 BOULEVARD, FROM THAT AREA, IT'S
10:43:32 JUST REALLY CONGESTED.
10:43:33 IF I DRIVE THAT, AND I DROVE IT
10:43:36 FOR MANY YEARS, FROM BEARSS ALL
10:43:37 THE WAY DOWN TO WESTSHORE, YOU
10:43:39 FIND THAT FLETCHER DOWN TO
10:43:41 HILLSBOROUGH IS VERY CONGESTED,
10:43:42 AND ONCE YOU GET PAST
10:43:43 HILLSBOROUGH, IF YOU WANT TO GO
10:43:45 TO I-4, IT'S STILL CONGESTED,
10:43:47 BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET PAST
10:43:49 THAT AND GO TO DOWNTOWN, IT'S
10:43:49 NOT SO BAD.
10:43:50 WE NEED TO TAKE IMPROVEMENTS
10:43:52 AND WIDEN THAT PORTION PAST
10:43:53 HILLSBOROUGH AND MAKE THAT
10:43:55 SECOND LANE TO GO TO I-4.
10:43:56 ALSO, IN THE NORTHBOUND
10:43:57 DIRECTION, WE NEED TO PROVIDE
10:43:59 TWO LANES FROM I-4 TO GO
10:44:00 NORTHBOUND AND BE ABLE TO FLUSH
10:44:01 THAT TRAFFIC OUT, WHICH WILL
10:44:03 ALLOW TRAFFIC FROM 275 COMING
10:44:05 FROM THE WESTSHORE AREA, AS
10:44:06 WELL THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN
10:44:07 INTERCHANGE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE
10:44:09 QUICKER.
10:44:10 ALL OF THAT CAN BE DONE, WE
10:44:12 FEEL, WITHIN THE EXISTING
10:44:12 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:44:13 WE DON'T NEED ANY RIGHT-OF-WAY,
10:44:15 WE WON'T HAVE ANY IMPACTS
10:44:17 OUTSIDE OF OUR EXISTING
10:44:17 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:44:19 WE ALSO COULD PUT SOUND WALLS
10:44:20 IN, WHICH ARE BADLY NEEDED
10:44:23 ALONG THAT PORTION OF 275.
10:44:25 BY PUTTING IN THE SECOND LANE
10:44:26 TO GO THROUGH THERE, WE WOULD
10:44:28 BE ABLE TO REDUCE A LOT OF THE
10:44:30 CRASHES, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT
10:44:32 THE SEGMENT 7 PROJECT WILL BE
10:44:33 ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD.
10:44:35 WE HAVE MONEY IN THE WORK
10:44:36 PROGRAM.
10:44:37 SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW STRATEGIC
10:44:39 INTERMODAL SYSTEM, IF YOU'VE
10:44:40 HEARD THE STRATEGIC INTERMODAL
10:44:41 SYSTEM, 50% OF THE STATE
10:44:43 DOLLARS GO TO THE STRATEGIC
10:44:45 INTERMODAL SYSTEM.
10:44:46 WE COMPETE WITH ALL OTHER
10:44:46 REGIONS OF FLORIDA.
10:44:48 IT'S NOT GIVEN TO US BY
10:44:49 FORMULAS.
10:44:51 SOME OF OUR FUNDING THAT WE GET
10:44:52 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
10:44:53 FROM THE STATE IS BY
10:44:54 POPULATION.
10:44:55 OUR PERCENTAGE OF THE
10:44:57 POPULATION IN THE STATE, THAT'S
10:44:58 HOW MUCH WE GET.
10:44:59 STRATEGIC INTERMODAL SYSTEM
10:45:01 FUNDING ISN'T LIKE THAT, IT'S
10:45:03 GIVEN TO WHERE THE NEED IS THE
10:45:05 MOST -- WHERE IT'S MOST NEEDED,
10:45:06 AND, QUITE HONESTLY, HOW WELL
10:45:08 WE DO IN SELLING THAT WE WANT
10:45:10 THAT MONEY AND WHAT WE WANT IT
10:45:12 FOR.
10:45:13 IF WE DO NOT GO FORWARD WITH
10:45:15 SEGMENT 7, WHICH HAS BEEN
10:45:17 SUGGESTED TO THE MPO AS ONE
10:45:21 POSSIBILITY -- WE NEED A T.I.P.
10:45:22 AMENDMENT IN NEXT MONTH'S
10:45:23 HEARING -- THAT MONEY WILL GO
10:45:24 BACK TO TALLAHASSEE, AND I KNOW
10:45:25 THERE'S OTHER REGIONS OF THE
10:45:27 STATE THAT HAVE ALREADY ASKED
10:45:30 FOR DIBS ON IT IF IT GOES AWAY.
10:45:31 WE WON'T GET IT BACK.
10:45:32 IT ALSO WOULD HURT OUR CHANCES
10:45:33 TO GET MORE MONEY FOR WESTSHORE
10:45:35 IF WE SEND MORE MONEY BACK TO
10:45:37 TALLAHASSEE, SO I'M SAYING THE
10:45:38 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE IS NOT OUR
10:45:40 TOP PRIORITY.
10:45:41 AS FAR AS MANAGED LANES, I GET
10:45:42 BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
10:45:45 I DO BELIEVE, THOUGH, YOU TALK
10:45:46 TO FOLKS IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND
10:45:47 YOU SEE HOW THE MANAGED LANES
10:45:49 HAVE WORKED THERE, THEY HAVE
10:45:51 BEEN POPULAR, AND A COUPLE OF
10:45:52 THE REASONS THEY HAVE BEEN IS
10:45:53 THEY NOT ONLY PROVIDE A
10:45:54 RELIABLE TRAVEL-TIME CORRIDOR
10:45:57 -- AND SOME CAN SAY, WELL, RICH
10:45:59 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE IT OR
10:46:01 PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO USE
10:46:02 IT, AND THAT MIGHT BE PART OF
10:46:04 IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO
10:46:04 ARE BUSINESSPEOPLE THAT -- I
10:46:06 TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO RUN PEST
10:46:07 CONTROL COMPANIES AND OTHER
10:46:08 PLACES THAT SAY, IF I COULD GET
10:46:11 TO ONE OR TWO MORE HOMES A DAY,
10:46:13 THAT'S WELL WORTH IT TO ME TO
10:46:15 PAY FOR THE MANAGED LANES; THE
10:46:16 PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO GET TO THE
10:46:17 DAY CARE TO PICK THEIR KIDS UP
10:46:18 AT A CERTAIN TIME AND IT COSTS
10:46:20 THEM A LOT OF MONEY IF THEY
10:46:21 DON'T GET THERE ON TIME.
10:46:23 THE BIGGEST THING ON MY MIND IS
10:46:24 IF YOU GO DOWN THERE, YOU FIND
10:46:31 -- YOU LOOK AT THEIR EXPRESS
10:46:31 BUS SYSTEM, THE EXPRESS BUS
10:46:32 SYSTEM THAT'S RUNNING IN THE
10:46:33 MANAGED LANES -- AND THE MONEY
10:46:33 THAT WE COLLECT IS NOT BECAUSE
10:46:33 WE WANT TO COLLECT MONEY, IT'S
10:46:33 NOT A REVENUE-GENERATING THING.
10:46:35 IN FACT, A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS
10:46:36 PUMPED BACK INTO THE EXPRESS
10:46:37 BUS OPERATIONS.
10:46:38 IT'S THERE TO MANAGE HOW MUCH
10:46:40 TRAFFIC IS IN AND OUT.
10:46:41 JUST LIKE IF YOU WANT TO FLY
10:46:42 SOMEPLACE AND YOU WANT TO FLY
10:46:44 THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, IT
10:46:46 COSTS YOU MORE, AND IF YOU WANT
10:46:49 TO FLY ON THANKSGIVING.
10:46:50 IT'S TO MANAGE THE DEMAND AND
10:46:51 THE SUPPLY, AND BY MANAGING
10:46:53 THAT DEMAND AND SUPPLY, YOU CAN
10:46:56 MAINTAIN, LET'S SAY, A 45- TO
10:46:59 50-MILE-AN-HOUR SPEED THROUGH
10:46:59 THERE.
10:47:01 AS I SAW AT THE MPO, 600,000
10:47:03 MORE PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 25
10:47:04 YEARS?
10:47:07 SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO WANT
10:47:08 TO DRIVE AND SOME OF THEM ARE
10:47:10 GOING TO WANT TO DRIVE ON THE
10:47:11 INTERSTATES, AND THOSE ROADS
10:47:13 ARE GOING TO GET MUCH MORE
10:47:14 CONGESTED THAN THEY ARE TODAY.
10:47:15 IF WE JUST MAKE THEM REGULAR
10:47:15 LANES, IT DOESN'T COST
10:47:15 ANYTHING, YOU'RE GOING TO GET
10:47:17 TWO MORE LANES THAT ARE GOING
10:47:17 TO OPERATE LIKE THE REST OF
10:47:18 THEM.
10:47:19 I TALKED TO FOLKS AT THESE
10:47:20 PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT HAVE HAD
10:47:22 TO LEAVE DOWNTOWN TAMPA BECAUSE
10:47:23 THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE
10:47:23 ANYMORE.
10:47:25 THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE TO OUTER
10:47:27 PLACES LIKE RIVERVIEW OR
10:47:28 DIFFERENT PLACES, AND THEY LOOK
10:47:29 FOR TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES.
10:47:30 THESE TYPES OF CORRIDORS WILL
10:47:32 GIVE YOU A TRANSIT OPPORTUNITY
10:47:33 THAT GIVES YOU A RELIABLE
10:47:34 TRAVEL TIME.
10:47:35 IF YOU'RE JUST RUNNING IN THE
10:47:36 REGULAR LANES, YOU WON'T HAVE
10:47:38 THAT RELIABLE TRAVEL TIME.
10:47:40 SO I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO JUST
10:47:41 THROW MANAGED LANES OUT AS
10:47:42 LEXUS LANES.
10:47:44 I DO BELIEVE THEY'RE MUCH MORE
10:47:44 THAN THAT.
10:47:45 THEY'RE NOT RIGHT FOR
10:47:47 EVERYWHERE, BUT I DO THINK THEY
10:47:51 DO HAVE APPLICATIONS.
10:47:52 THE RAIL -- WE'RE NOT OPPOSED
10:47:53 TO RAIL.
10:47:55 WE'RE NOT -- WE'RE NOT OPPOSED
10:48:00 TO ANYTHING THAT HAS POTENTIAL.
10:48:01 THE BOULEVARD'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.
10:48:03 WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE
10:48:03 BOULEVARD.
10:48:05 WHAT WE THINK, THOUGH, IS THAT
10:48:06 WE CAN'T LOOK AT THE BOULEVARD
10:48:08 WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE
10:48:10 REPLACE THAT WITH, NOT JUST A
10:48:11 BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD HAVE A
10:48:12 LOT LESS CAPACITY THAN WHAT'S
10:48:14 ON THE INTERSTATE, BUT WHERE'S
10:48:16 ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING TO GO?
10:48:17 THE REASON I SAY THAT IS
10:48:18 BECAUSE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
10:48:19 ADMINISTRATION'S GOING TO MAKE
10:48:20 THE FINAL DECISION, AND THEY'RE
10:48:22 GOING TO BASE IT ON WHERE --
10:48:23 HOW IS THIS REGIONAL TRAFFIC
10:48:25 THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT GOING
10:48:26 TO BE HANDLED, HOW IS THE
10:48:28 FREIGHT MOVEMENT, HOW IS THE
10:48:29 EMERGENCY EVACUATION WITH, SO
10:48:30 WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT WHERE ELSE
10:48:32 WE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, AND IF WE
10:48:33 CAN FIGURE THAT PORTION OF IT
10:48:35 OUT, DO YOU WIDEN DALE MABRY
10:48:37 AND OTHER ROADS IN ORDER TO
10:48:38 PROVIDE CAPACITY THERE, THEN
10:48:40 MAYBE THE VIABILITY OF THE
10:48:41 BOULEVARD BECOMES MUCH HIGHER.
10:48:43 ON RAIL, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
10:48:45 CONSTRAINTS, I'LL JUST MAKE
10:48:47 SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF, ON OUR
10:48:48 ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE ON RAIL
10:48:49 PROJECTS.
10:48:50 WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN RAIL
10:48:51 PROJECTS AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW
10:48:54 THE FEDERAL PROCESS.
10:48:55 IF WE DO NOT FOLLOW THE FEDERAL
10:48:58 PROCESS, THEN WE ARE LIMITED TO
10:49:01 ONLY 12.5% OF THE COSTS THAT WE
10:49:01 CAN PROVIDE.
10:49:03 THAT MEANS THAT THE LOCAL
10:49:04 GOVERNMENTS WOULD HAVE TO COME
10:49:06 UP WITH 87.5%.
10:49:07 IF WE FOLLOW THE FEDERAL
10:49:09 PROCESS, WE CAN GO AFTER
10:49:11 FEDERAL FUNDS FOR 50%, 25% FOR
10:49:13 STATE, AND THEN THE LOCAL 25%.
10:49:14 IN THE PAST WE HAVEN'T LOOKED
10:49:16 AT RAIL, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THAT
10:49:18 25% LOCAL WASN'T THERE, AND IF
10:49:19 YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT 25% LOCAL,
10:49:20 YOU WERE NOT GOING TO ENTER
10:49:22 INTO THE FEDERAL PROCESS.
10:49:23 NOW THAT WE HAVE THE 25%,
10:49:24 HOPEFULLY, THAT CAN BE
10:49:26 CONTRIBUTED FROM THE LOCALS
10:49:28 THAT WE CAN MATCH JUST LIKE WE
10:49:29 ARE ON SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS
10:49:32 RIGHT NOW, WE CAN ENTERTAIN THE
10:49:33 FEDERAL PROCESS, SO WE'RE NOT
10:49:34 OPPOSED AT ALL.
10:49:36 WE WON'T BE THE LEAD.
10:49:38 THAT WOULD BE A HILLSBOROUGH
10:49:40 COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA, A
10:49:42 TBARTA, SOMEBODY WHO WOULD TAKE
10:49:43 THE LEAD ON THAT, BUT WE WOULD
10:49:45 CERTAINLY BE A WILLING PARTNER
10:49:46 IF THERE'S A VIABLE PROJECT TO
10:49:48 GO FORWARD WITH.
10:49:51 WE CAUTION YOU ABOUT TALKING TO
10:49:53 CSX IN -- JUST TALKING TO THEM
10:49:55 IN THEORY.
10:49:57 THEY'RE BUSINESSPEOPLE.
10:49:58 THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO GET
10:49:59 THE MOST THAT THEY CAN FOR
10:50:02 THEIR ASSETS, AND SO THEY'LL
10:50:04 TALK TO YOU A LOT, BUT WHEN YOU
10:50:05 GET TO WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE
10:50:06 THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THEM
10:50:07 EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO,
10:50:08 THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN START TO
10:50:10 MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON WHAT IS
10:50:11 IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT.
10:50:13 I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE NOT
10:50:14 GOING TO BE INEXPENSIVE.
10:50:15 IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE WILLING
10:50:17 TO JUST GIVE US THEIR LINES.
10:50:19 THEY WANT US TO UPGRADE THEIR
10:50:20 LINES, THEY WANT US TO ALLOW
10:50:22 THEM TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE ON
10:50:24 THOSE LINES.
10:50:25 THERE'S A LOT OF COSTS THAT WE
10:50:27 JUST HAVE TO GO -- BE CAREFUL
10:50:29 AS WE NAVIGATE THAT PATH, BUT
10:50:31 WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO BEING A
10:50:33 PARTNER IN IT, BUT I'M SAYING
10:50:37 IT'S -- IT'S A COMPLICATED PATH
10:50:39 TO FOLLOW, AND WE'VE GOT TO DO
10:50:40 IT CAREFULLY, AND OUR THEORY
10:50:45 ALL AROUND THE STATE HAS BEEN
10:50:47 NOT TO JUST JUMP IN AND SAY,
10:50:48 CSX, WHAT IF WE WANTED TO TAKE
10:50:50 OVER YOUR LINES?
10:50:51 OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN LET'S GO
10:50:52 TO THEM AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT
10:50:53 WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING AND
10:50:55 THEN WE CAN START TALKING IN
10:50:57 MORE DETAILS, BECAUSE IF WE SAY
10:50:58 THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO,
10:51:00 THEY'LL PAINT A NICE, ROSY
10:51:02 PICTURE, QUITE HONESTLY, BUT
10:51:04 WHEN YOU COME BACK LOOKING FOR
10:51:04 THE DETAILS, OH, THE PRICES
10:51:07 JUST WENT UP QUITE A BIT, BUT
10:51:09 -- SO WE -- I DO WANT YOU TO
10:51:11 KNOW THAT WE WANT TO BE A
10:51:11 PARTNER TO YOU.
10:51:13 WE ARE LISTENING TO THE
10:51:13 COMMUNITY.
10:51:14 WE'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES
10:51:16 BASED ON INPUT WE'VE GOTTEN
10:51:18 FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND WE LOOK
10:51:20 FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
10:51:22 ESPECIALLY THE NEW MEMBERS, AND
10:51:23 I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE
10:51:25 OPPORTUNITY -- I'LL REACH OUT
10:51:27 TO TRY TO GET A ONE-ON-ONE
10:51:30 MEETING WITH EACH OF YOU TO
10:51:32 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
10:51:32 HAVE.
10:51:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:51:34 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:51:36 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST BRIEFLY.
10:51:37 WHAT DO YOUR FUTURE PLANNERS
10:51:39 SAY WILL BE THE TIPPING POINT
10:51:42 IN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES WHEN
10:51:43 MOST PEOPLE WILL BE IN THEM,
10:51:45 ARE WE 10 YEARS OFF OR FIVE
10:51:47 YEARS OFF OR 20 YEARS OFF?
10:51:48 WHAT DO YOU THINK?
10:51:49 >> YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK
10:51:50 EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO HAS A
10:51:51 DIFFERENT OPINION.
10:51:51 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S WHAT I
10:51:52 HEARD.
10:51:53 >> IT'S VERY HARD TO GUESS
10:51:53 BECAUSE WE THINK CONNECTED
10:51:55 VEHICLES WILL BE VERY -- WILL
10:51:57 MAKE IMPACTS MUCH QUICKER WHERE
10:51:59 WE'LL START SEEING THINGS WHERE
10:52:01 VEHICLES ARE COMMUNICATING WITH
10:52:02 ONE ANOTHER AT THE ROADSIDE BUT
10:52:04 NOT NECESSARILY AUTONOMOUSLY.
10:52:05 THAT WILL HAVE A LOT OF
10:52:06 BENEFITS.
10:52:08 FULL AUTONOMY, IT'S SO HARD TO
10:52:09 SAY.
10:52:10 IT PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO BE
10:52:13 IN THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS, BUT
10:52:15 THEN, AGAIN, TECHNOLOGY
10:52:16 ADVANCES SOMETIMES ARE JUST --
10:52:18 THEY -- SOMETHING HAPPENS AND
10:52:21 THEY MOVE FORWARD, SO IT'S HARD
10:52:22 TO GUESS.
10:52:23 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OTHER
10:52:23 QUESTION.
10:52:24 WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THIS
10:52:25 OFFLINE.
10:52:26 YOU TALKED ABOUT INTERMODAL.
10:52:27 I'M ON SEVERAL STATEWIDE
10:52:29 BOARDS, AND IF I REMEMBER THE
10:52:32 NUMBERS CORRECTLY, AN ENGINEER
10:52:34 OR SOMEONE SAID THAT A TRUCK, A
10:52:36 FULLY LOADED TRUCK CARRYING
10:52:38 FREIGHT HAS THE SAME IMPACT AS
10:52:40 15,000 CARS ON THE HIGHWAY.
10:52:42 ANYWAY, IT HAS A MUCH BIGGER
10:52:43 IMPACT THAN A CAR.
10:52:44 >> YES.
10:52:46 >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE -- OUR
10:52:47 PORT HAS STARTED TO TURN AROUND
10:52:49 IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO AND IS
10:52:51 DRASTICALLY INCREASING THE
10:52:53 NUMBER OF CONTAINERS, BUT WE
10:52:54 STILL HAVE A LARGE NUMBER
10:52:55 COMING FROM MIAMI, FORT
10:52:57 LAUDERDALE, MAYBE EVEN
10:52:58 JACKSONVILLE AND PORT
10:52:59 CANAVERAL.
10:53:01 I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE IF
10:53:02 THERE'S A WAY WE CAN PARTNER
10:53:04 WITH YOUR INTERMODAL PEOPLE AND
10:53:06 THE PORT TO TRY TO MOVE MORE OF
10:53:07 THAT FREIGHT BY SEA TO TAMPA
10:53:08 AND HAVE IT EXIT HERE, I WOULD
10:53:10 LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT AND
10:53:11 BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
10:53:12 >> THAT'S GREAT.
10:53:13 WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN A BIG
10:53:15 PARTNER INVESTING IN THE PORT.
10:53:16 WE JUST DID A RECENT DREDGING
10:53:18 PROJECT.
10:53:19 HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ENCOURAGE
10:53:20 MORE OF THAT.
10:53:21 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:53:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
10:53:23 QUESTIONS?
10:53:24 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:53:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,
10:53:26 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:53:27 THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
10:53:28 APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR
10:53:30 PRESENTATION TODAY.
10:53:33 IN REGARD TO THE INTERCHANGE
10:53:34 IDEA AND DEFERRING THAT, I
10:53:37 THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A
10:53:38 PRETTY POPULAR NOTION, AT LEAST
10:53:40 IN TERMS -- I AGREE.
10:53:42 WESTSHORE IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL.
10:53:43 EVERYBODY KNOWS IT NEEDS TO GET
10:53:43 DONE.
10:53:45 WHEN I'M COMING BACK FROM ST.
10:53:47 PETE, YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING
10:53:48 GREAT, AND THE MINUTE YOU GET
10:53:50 PAST THE HUMP AND ALL OF A
10:53:54 SUDDEN IT SNARLS UP FOR 15
10:53:55 MINUTES OR WHATEVER, AND I
10:53:56 THINK THESE CHANGES ARE GOING
10:53:58 TO ALLEVIATE THAT, I HOPE, IN
10:53:59 OUR LIFETIME.
10:54:00 BUT ANYWAY -- BUT THEN WE GET
10:54:02 TO THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE,
10:54:04 AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH ALL THE
10:54:05 DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES,
10:54:06 INCLUDING THE BRIGHTLINE COMING
10:54:09 THROUGH AND PERHAPS SOME LOCAL
10:54:10 TRANSIT, THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD
10:54:12 TO DEFER THAT.
10:54:15 MY QUESTION IS THIS.
10:54:17 WHEN YOU'RE COMING SOUTH ON 275
10:54:19 -- AND YOU MENTIONED -- I THINK
10:54:20 YOUR COHORT MENTIONED COMING
10:54:22 INTO TWO LANES TO GO TO I-4
10:54:24 INSTEAD OF THE SINGLE LANE AND
10:54:25 ALSO TO HAVE SOME STACKING
10:54:28 ABILITY, CAN WE DO -- MOVE
10:54:31 FORWARD WITH THAT WITHOUT --
10:54:32 WITHOUT IT BEING PART OF THE
10:54:33 WHOLE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE?
10:54:38 >> YES, WE CAN.
10:54:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I THINK
10:54:40 IF WE CAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:54:42 >> WE CAN BECAUSE THIS IS
10:54:43 WITHIN THE EXISTING
10:54:44 RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND WE JUST HAVE
10:54:45 TO WORK WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY ON
10:54:47 THAT, BUT BECAUSE IT WOULD SHOW
10:54:48 SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS -- AND THAT
10:54:50 WOULD BE THE BIG THING, AND SO
10:54:51 I THINK THAT WE COULD GET THAT
10:54:52 THROUGH.
10:54:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WOULD
10:54:54 YOU SAY 1500 ACCIDENTS --
10:54:55 >> YEAH.
10:54:56 I THINK IT WAS 2016 WAS THE
10:54:58 YEAR WE HAD, THERE WAS 1500
10:55:00 CRASHES IN ONE YEAR.
10:55:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FIVE --
10:55:03 >> NOT JUST ON THE NORTH LEG
10:55:04 BUT THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN
10:55:05 INTERCHANGE.
10:55:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FIVE A DAY,
10:55:07 THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING.
10:55:08 >> IT'S AMAZING, YEAH.
10:55:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU SO
10:55:10 MUCH.
10:55:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
10:55:11 QUESTIONS?
10:55:13 MR. McKINNEY, CAN I ASK A
10:55:14 QUESTION OF YOU?
10:55:17 THERE IS A SIGN DESIGNATING
10:55:19 YBOR CITY AS A HISTORIC AREA ON
10:55:21 THE -- ON I-4.
10:55:22 >> YEP.
10:55:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A FRIEND OF
10:55:24 MINE, MR. ROBINSON --
10:55:26 >> OH, YEAH.
10:55:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: -- WHO IS WITH
10:55:30 THE CRA, CDC IN WEST TAMPA HAS
10:55:31 BEEN ASKING HOW A DESIGNATION
10:55:33 SIGN FOR HISTORIC WEST TAMPA
10:55:34 CAN BE PROCURED.
10:55:35 WOULD YOU MIND LOOKING INTO
10:55:37 THAT AND GETTING BACK TO ME AT
10:55:37 SOMETIME?
10:55:38 >> SURE.
10:55:40 AND CHLOE CONEY, WHO'S HERE
10:55:42 WITH US, SHE'S ACTUALLY HAD A
10:55:43 LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM
10:55:44 ABOUT THAT, AND THERE ARE
10:55:45 SPECIFIC -- I'VE REFERRED HIM
10:55:46 TO THE SPECIFIC FOLKS THAT DO
10:55:47 THAT, AND IT HAS TO MEET --
10:55:49 JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, IT
10:55:50 HAS TO MEET CERTAIN
10:55:52 REQUIREMENTS ON A STATE LEVEL,
10:55:53 BUT, OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN LOOK
10:55:54 INTO THAT, AND I'VE RELAYED
10:55:57 THAT TO MR. ROBINSON, BUT WE'LL
10:55:58 HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
10:55:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COULD YOU
10:56:00 CONTACT ME, AND MAYBE I COULD
10:56:01 MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS?
10:56:02 >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:56:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY
10:56:03 MUCH.
10:56:04 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:56:05 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
10:56:06 PRESENTATION TODAY ON FDOT.
10:56:08 NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC
10:56:09 COMMENTS.
10:56:12 EACH SPEAKER GETS THREE
10:56:13 MINUTES.
10:56:15 >> SHOULD WE DO THE AGENDA
10:56:15 ITEMS?
10:56:20 MR. CHAIRMAN, SHOULD WE DO
10:56:22 THESE, THEN STAFF CAN LEAVE?
10:56:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'D RATHER DO
10:56:24 PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THAT'S ALL
10:56:25 RIGHT WITH THE BOARD.
10:56:28 >> YOUR CALL.
10:56:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. DANIELS.
10:56:31 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:56:34 METEZMOT.
10:56:36 ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I
10:56:38 ALWAYS TELL MY KIDS EVERY DAY
10:56:41 TO BE GOOD AND BE BLACK.
10:56:42 EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN THIS
10:56:44 CHAMBER, EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN
10:56:46 STATE HALLS AND NATIONAL HALLS
10:56:49 AND NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS, IT'S
10:56:51 ALL ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE, NOTHING
10:56:52 MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:56:55 IT'S ALL ABOUT LOCAL MANIFESTO
10:57:00 DESTINY, CONNECTED TO NATIONAL
10:57:03 MANIFESTO DESTINY, CONNECTED TO
10:57:05 WHITE NATIONALISM AND WHITE
10:57:06 POWER, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING
10:57:07 LESS.
10:57:09 EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN THIS
10:57:11 HALL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
10:57:16 26% OF THE BLACK POPULATION OF
10:57:16 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:57:18 IT'S ALL ABOUT OPPORTUNITY FOR
10:57:20 WHITE PEOPLE AND "F" EVERYBODY
10:57:21 ELSE.
10:57:23 THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS.
10:57:25 BUT MARTIN LUTHER KING, MARCUS
10:57:28 GARVEY, A. PHILIP RANDOLPH,
10:57:33 FANNIE LOU HAMER, MALCOLM X,
10:57:35 AND OTHERS, THOMAS SANKARA,
10:57:38 MAURICE BISHOP SPOKE IN THE
10:57:40 INTERESTS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE
10:57:41 INTERNATIONALLY, NATIONALLY,
10:57:44 AND LOCALLY, AND I ALWAYS TRY
10:57:47 TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS
10:57:48 AND REPRESENT RIGHT HERE
10:57:50 LOCALLY IN TAMPA.
10:57:51 NOW, EARLIER THIS MORNING YOU
10:57:52 HAD SOME GENTLEMAN THAT WAS
10:57:55 CONNECTED TO THIS LADY HERE,
10:57:57 AND APPARENTLY HE SEEMS TO BE A
10:57:59 GAY GENTLEMAN, AND HE CAME AND
10:58:01 HE BASHED AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THE
10:58:05 WORST WAY, IN THE WORST WAY,
10:58:06 AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS
10:58:10 STAND IN DEFENSE OF MY PEOPLE
10:58:13 AND THE HATRED YOU HEAR SPEWING
10:58:15 FROM WHITE FOLKS' MOUTH IN
10:58:16 REFERENCE TO AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:58:20 HE CAME AND SPOKE IN A WAY TO
10:58:21 SET BLACK PEOPLE UP HANGING AT
10:58:23 THE BROADWAY BAR TO GET HURT,
10:58:25 INJURED, MAIMED, KILLED,
10:58:27 DESTROYED BY THE POLICE
10:58:28 DEPARTMENT AND ANY OTHER
10:58:31 AUTHORITY THAT THEY SEE FIT TO
10:58:32 DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO
10:58:34 WITH US, TALKING ABOUT SOME
10:58:36 GARBAGE ABOUT SOME POP-UP
10:58:37 PARTIES.
10:58:38 IT'S GROWN FOLKS HANGING AT THE
10:58:39 BROADWAY BAR.
10:58:40 I HANG AT THE BROADWAY BAR, AND
10:58:42 YOU KNOW WHY I HANG AT THE
10:58:44 BROADWAY BAR, YOU KNOW WHY WE
10:58:46 HANG IN YBOR CITY, BECAUSE
10:58:47 EVERY OTHER BAR IN OUR
10:58:49 COMMUNITIES THE POLICE HAVE
10:58:50 KICKED US OUT OF.
10:58:52 EVERYPLACE THAT'S INDIGENOUS TO
10:58:54 US, THEY HAVE RAN US OUT.
10:58:57 REGENTRIFICATION WITH THE SAME
10:58:59 TYPE OF GAY PEOPLE THAT'S
10:59:03 MOVING THROUGH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:59:04 AND TAKING OVER HYDE PARK AND
10:59:04 WEST TAMPA, AND OTHER AREAS,
10:59:05 FLEXING THEIR WHITE MUSCLE,
10:59:06 NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:59:09 WE CAN'T GO TO THE ZANZI BAR,
10:59:10 CAN'T GO TO THE CHIPP INN,
10:59:12 CAN'T GO TO THE NEW LOUNGE,
10:59:14 CAN'T GO TO MANILLA'S, AND THE
10:59:16 ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT IS THE
10:59:17 BROADWAY BAR, AND THEY'RE DOWN
10:59:18 THERE RUNNING AROUND TREATING
10:59:19 US LIKE DIRT.
10:59:21 THEY NEED TO STOP IT.
10:59:24 IT REALLY IS -- IT'S HATRED.
10:59:26 IT'S HATRED OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:59:27 AND THEN HE TALKED ABOUT
10:59:29 HOMELESS PEOPLE, AFRICAN PEOPLE
10:59:32 HANGING AT THE 7-ELEVEN, HATRED
10:59:33 OF AFRICAN PEOPLE, AND WHEN
10:59:35 PEOPLE TALK LIKE THAT, YOU ALL
10:59:36 NEED TO PUT THEM IN CHECK.
10:59:39 THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
10:59:43 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:59:44 CONNIE BURTON.
10:59:46 YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 20
10:59:47 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN COMING
10:59:52 DOWN HERE, AND SOME OF THE
10:59:53 SENIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD
10:59:55 KNOW THAT THE BIGGEST DEMAND
10:59:56 THAT WE'VE MADE OUT OF OUR
10:59:58 COMMUNITY IS THE NEED FOR
11:00:00 SOCIAL JUSTICE.
11:00:04 20 YEARS LATER THE RETURN OF
11:00:06 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WE'RE
11:00:07 STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME
11:00:10 THING, SOCIAL JUSTICE.
11:00:12 BUT I'M WITH A NEW LABEL THIS
11:00:13 MORNING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A
11:00:14 GOOD PRESIDENT OVER AT THE
11:00:18 NAACP, AS HE HAS APPOINTED ME
11:00:21 TO BE THE HOUSING CHAIR FOR THE
11:00:23 NAACP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
11:00:25 RESPECT THAT LABEL OR THAT
11:00:26 ORGANIZATION OR NOT, BUT FOR
11:00:29 100 YEARS IT'S BEEN MAKING A
11:00:31 DEMAND FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE FOR
11:00:34 OUR PEOPLE.
11:00:39 ALL THROUGHOUT THIS CITY, YOU
11:00:40 COME DOWNTOWN AROUND 6:00,
11:00:42 WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADMIT IT OR
11:00:44 NOT, IT'S THE ACCENT OF AFRICAN
11:00:44 PEOPLE.
11:00:46 I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT A ONCE
11:00:47 UPON A TIME ALL DOWN THERE
11:00:49 WHERE YOU SEE ARMATURE WORKS,
11:00:51 NOW BLACK FOLKS USED TO BE ABLE
11:00:52 TO LIVE THERE.
11:00:54 WE CAN'T AFFORD IT NOW.
11:00:58 IN AND AROUND AREAS IN YBOR
11:01:00 CITY, IF YOU GO PAST 21st, THEN
11:01:01 YOU START SEEING THE
11:01:04 REEMERGENCE OF BLACK PEOPLE
11:01:04 AGAIN.
11:01:05 ALL OF EAST TAMPA.
11:01:07 IT'S BEEN LIKE A SHELL GAME OF
11:01:08 THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DO WITH
11:01:10 OUR CRA, BUT WHEN I HEARD THAT
11:01:11 GENTLEMAN THIS MORNING TALK
11:01:15 ABOUT ALL THE GLORIOUS,
11:01:16 WONDERFUL THINGS THEY'RE DOING
11:01:18 WITH THEIR CRA MONEY AND IN THE
11:01:20 INTEREST OF MATCHING BONDS, BUT
11:01:21 WHEN WE WERE AT OUR MEETING,
11:01:22 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
11:01:24 ROUNDABOUTS, ROUNDABOUTS,
11:01:26 ROUNDABOUTS, CAN'T DO NOTHING.
11:01:28 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SHUT
11:01:30 DOWN BEFORE WE GO ANOTHER 15
11:01:31 YEARS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE
11:01:32 WILL BECAUSE ONE THING WE'RE
11:01:36 ABLE TO DO NOW UNDER THE
11:01:37 GRASS-ROOTS LEADERSHIP IS
11:01:39 ORGANIZING OUR COMMUNITY.
11:01:40 WE'VE GOT TOO MANY FAMILIES
11:01:43 INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA THAT IS
11:01:47 MAKING A DEMAND FOR -- I DON'T
11:01:49 KNOW HOW I CAN EXPRESS IT, YOU
11:01:52 CAN'T SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING NO
11:01:53 MORE -- HOUSING THAT MATCHES
11:01:57 INCOME AND WAGES CONNECTED TO
11:01:59 WALMART, CHECKER'S.
11:02:00 THAT'S WHERE OUR PEOPLE ARE
11:02:00 WORKING.
11:02:03 WE NEED A HOUSING PROGRAM SO
11:02:06 PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIGNITY.
11:02:08 THAT'S WHAT WE WANT AND THAT'S
11:02:09 WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE
11:02:12 WE'RE ORGANIZING OURSELVES FOR
11:02:13 2021.
11:02:15 WHAT IS 2021?
11:02:16 IT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
11:02:18 THAT WONDERFUL SUPER BOWL HERE,
11:02:19 AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN
11:02:21 ATTRACT WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT
11:02:24 BELIEVE IN SOCIAL JUSTICE, AND
11:02:25 WHEN THEY GET AWAY FROM ALL
11:02:29 THIS HERE MIRAGE OF HOW
11:02:30 WONDERFUL TAMPA IS MAKING
11:02:34 ITSELF THE NEW SOUTH AFRICA,
11:02:36 THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE BECOMING.
11:02:37 WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO
11:02:39 LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY
11:02:40 ONCE LIVED IN, THAT'S WHAT
11:02:42 YOU'RE BECOMING.
11:02:45 WHEN NOW OAKHURST IS NOW BEING
11:02:46 TURNED OVER TO THE UNIVERSITY
11:02:48 OF TAMPA AND ALL OF NORTH
11:02:49 BOULEVARD IS GONE BECAUSE WE
11:02:51 CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
11:02:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,
11:02:52 MS. BURTON.
11:02:54 >> YOU CAN'T BE PROUD OF THAT.
11:02:55 THANK YOU.
11:03:04 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, RON WEAVER,
11:03:06 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
11:03:07 FOR THE LAST HOUR WE'VE SPENT
11:03:09 SOME VERY IMPORTANT TIME
11:03:10 LOOKING AT AN OPPORTUNITY OR
11:03:13 THREE THAT HAVE RISEN FOR THIS
11:03:15 COMMUNITY, AND SHAKESPEARE ONCE
11:03:17 SAID THAT THERE COMES A TIDE IN
11:03:17 THE AFFAIRS OF MEN WHICH TAKEN
11:03:19 AT THE FLOOD LEAD ON TO
11:03:20 FORTUNE, BUT IF MISSED LEAD
11:03:24 ONLY TO MISERY AND DESPAIR.
11:03:25 I-275 NORTH OF DOWNTOWN IS
11:03:27 MISERY AND DESPAIR AND OVER THE
11:03:29 NEXT DECADE IS GOING TO BE 250%
11:03:29 OF CAPACITY.
11:03:31 WE MUST BEGIN FOCUSING ON NOT
11:03:33 LETTING OUR MONIES GO TO
11:03:35 JACKSONVILLE, ORLANDO, MIAMI,
11:03:37 BUT INSTEAD FOCUSING THE 50%
11:03:38 MATCH FROM THE FEDERAL
11:03:39 GOVERNMENT, THE 25% MATCH FROM
11:03:42 THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND OUR
11:03:44 OWN 25% MATCH FROM THE ALL FOR
11:03:46 TRANSPORTATION $302 MILLION A
11:03:48 YEAR THAT WE FINALLY VOTED FOR
11:03:50 IN ORDER TO ADDRESS I-275 NORTH
11:03:51 OF TAMPA, NOT JUST TO THE
11:03:53 MAGNIFICENT RESOURCE OF THE
11:03:54 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AND
11:03:56 OUR NEIGHBORS IN WIREGRASS AND
11:03:57 THROUGHOUT THE NORTH, BUT ALSO
11:03:58 TO CONNECT TO COMMUNITIES,
11:04:00 ENABLE PEOPLE TO GET TO THEIR
11:04:02 JOBS ALL ON I-275 IN A WAY THAT
11:04:05 DOES LOOK OUT IN THE FUTURE FOR
11:04:07 THE POTENTIALITY OF A BOULEVARD
11:04:08 BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF LOST
11:04:11 MONEY OR FIXING WHAT IS A
11:04:14 1500-CRASH PROBLEM WITH
11:04:15 I-275/DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE.
11:04:17 WE NEED TO FIX THE IMMEDIATE
11:04:19 PROBLEMS WITH THE $300 MILLION,
11:04:20 WE NEED TO ADD ONE LANE NORTH
11:04:22 AND ONE LANE ADDITIONAL SOUTH,
11:04:23 MAKE THE CORRECTIONS WE TALKED
11:04:24 ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO THE
11:04:28 INTERCHANGES OF I-275 AND I-4,
11:04:29 AND IF A BOULEVARD COULD EVER
11:04:31 EARN ITS KEEP, IT NEEDS TO LOOK
11:04:33 AT FOUR HARD QUESTIONS FIRST.
11:04:34 NUMBER ONE, WHAT WOULD BE THE
11:04:36 EFFECTS ON FLORIDA AND
11:04:36 NEBRASKA?
11:04:39 NUMBER TWO, ON I-4 -- AS FAR AS
11:04:41 ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON I-4 TO GO
11:04:43 OUT TO I-75 AND USE IT INSTEAD
11:04:45 OF I-275.
11:04:48 OUR NEIGHBORS IN PASCO AND
11:04:50 HERNANDO COUNTY AND WHAT WE ARE
11:04:52 AND ARE NOT DOING FOR THEM, THE
11:04:54 SPEEDUP OF RAIL, THE WAY WE PAY
11:04:55 FOR RAIL, AND THE RIDERSHIP OF
11:04:57 RAIL IN RELATION TO THOSE FOUR
11:04:59 INGREDIENTS OF WHETHER OR NOT
11:05:01 WE DO OR DO NOT WASTE TIME WITH
11:05:02 RESPECT TO GETTING THIS MONEY
11:05:04 THAT WE MUST GET AFTER SOONER,
11:05:05 NOT BE DISTRACTED BY A STUDY
11:05:07 UNLESS THAT STUDY PROVIDES THAT
11:05:08 THE NEIGHBORHOODS COULD BE
11:05:11 CONNECTED VIA A BOULEVARD, BUT
11:05:12 THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADEQUATE
11:05:13 PROVISION WITHOUT DAMAGING
11:05:14 FLORIDA AVENUE, DAMAGING
11:05:18 NEBRASKA AVENUE, I-4, AND I-75
11:05:19 WITH RESPECT TO CONNECTING
11:05:21 THESE NEIGHBORHOODS -- YES, A
11:05:22 COMMENDABLE OBJECTIVE -- BUT
11:05:24 NOT INTERFERE WITH THE NEED TO
11:05:27 GET I-275 AND ITS ROLE IN
11:05:30 COMMERCE AND THE 126 MILLION
11:05:31 VISITORS PER YEAR TO FLORIDA,
11:05:33 MANY OF WHOM USE THE I-275
11:05:34 CONNECTION.
11:05:36 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:05:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:05:38 MR. DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE ANY
11:05:38 QUESTIONS?
11:05:40 NO.
11:05:42 I THOUGHT I SAW --
11:05:43 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:05:44 HI.
11:05:50 I'M SHADAY ASTE.
11:05:52 I'VE BEEN HERE FOR LIKE 20
11:05:53 YEARS, I CAME FROM JAMAICA, AND
11:05:55 I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO WHAT YOU
11:05:56 ALL HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT
11:05:58 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINGS
11:05:58 LIKE THAT.
11:06:00 I STAY IN A HOTEL WITH ME AND
11:06:02 MY TWO CHILDREN, AND I PAY $70
11:06:04 A NIGHT, WHICH IS LIKE $1300 A
11:06:07 MONTH, AND I'M A SINGLE MOTHER
11:06:07 WITH TWO CHILDREN.
11:06:08 I DO TAKE HARTLINE
11:06:08 TRANSPORTATION.
11:06:11 I HAVE TO PAY $4 APIECE FOR MY
11:06:12 CHILDREN AND FOR ME, AND WITH
11:06:14 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE'S NO
11:06:15 AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUT THERE.
11:06:17 I USED TO STAY ACROSS FLETCHER,
11:06:19 ON FLETCHER AND 15th, WHERE
11:06:21 THERE USED TO BE AFFORDABLE --
11:06:23 LIKE $480 A MONTH FOR A
11:06:26 ONE-BEDROOM.
11:06:26 NOW IT'S $700, $800, AND
11:06:28 THERE'S NOWHERE POSSIBLE WHERE
11:06:30 YOU'RE ABLE TO AFFORD FOR
11:06:32 HOUSING AND PAY FOR ME TO GO TO
11:06:34 WORK AND PAY FOR MY KIDS TO GO
11:06:34 TO SCHOOL AND FOR
11:06:35 TRANSPORTATION, SO WHAT I'M
11:06:37 SAYING AS A MOTHER, THERE'S NO
11:06:38 PLACE OUT THERE FOR ME AND MY
11:06:40 CHILDREN TO ACTUALLY BE SETTLED
11:06:44 DOWN, TO FIND A PLACE FOR TO
11:06:45 STAY, WHERE THERE'S A GOOD
11:06:46 ENVIRONMENT FOR ME AND MY
11:06:49 CHILDREN, THERE'S NO DRUG AND
11:06:49 STUFF LIKE THAT.
11:06:51 I'M TELLING YOU ALL YOU REALLY
11:06:52 NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
11:06:53 BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING.
11:06:55 LITERALLY, I WANT YOU TO HEAR
11:06:56 ME LIKE A MOTHER, I'M
11:06:57 STRUGGLING OUT HERE, AND
11:06:59 SOCIETY'S DOING NO BETTER OUT
11:07:01 HERE FOR ME, AND AS A MOTHER, I
11:07:02 HAVE A DAUGHTER, AND I DON'T
11:07:04 WANT TO LEAVE TO KNOW MY
11:07:05 CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE
11:07:08 STRUGGLING AND COME 20 YEARS
11:07:12 AND KNOW MY KIDS ARE GOING TO
11:07:13 BE STRUGGLING IN SOCIETY.
11:07:14 SO I WANT YOU ALL TO REALLY
11:07:14 LISTEN TO ME AND HEAR ME AS A
11:07:15 MOTHER TO KNOW THAT YOU ALL
11:07:18 HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
11:07:20 SOCIETY, ABOUT HOUSING, ABOUT
11:07:20 TRANSPORTATION, A LOT OF
11:07:21 THINGS, BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING.
11:07:23 IT'S NOT GOOD AS A MOTHER TO
11:07:24 KNOW I'M GOING THROUGH THIS AND
11:07:25 EVERYBODY OUT THERE IS SITTING
11:07:28 OUT THERE COMFORTABLY.
11:07:34 THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
11:07:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:07:35 GUDES.
11:07:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUNG LADY,
11:07:37 COME BACK TO THE PODIUM.
11:07:38 FOR MANY YEARS I WORKED THE
11:07:41 STREETS OF TAMPA, AND A LOT OF
11:07:43 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW SOME
11:07:44 PEOPLE DO TRULY LIVE.
11:07:45 >> RIGHT.
11:07:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND
11:07:47 THAT SITUATION ABOUT THE
11:07:49 HOTELS.
11:07:50 >> RIGHT.
11:07:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'VE SEEN MANY
11:07:52 MOTHERS --
11:07:53 >> MANY OF THEM.
11:07:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME FINISH.
11:07:56 I'VE SEEN MANY MOTHERS STAY IN
11:07:58 THAT HOTELS, AND I TALKED ABOUT
11:07:59 LAST TIME I WAS ON THE DAIS
11:08:00 ABOUT THAT SITUATION.
11:08:05 IT IS HORRENDOUS, AND IT
11:08:06 AFFECTS CHILDREN VERY BADLY.
11:08:07 >> VERY MUCH SO.
11:08:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M COMMITTED
11:08:10 -- I THINK I JUST GOT APPOINTED
11:08:12 TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
11:08:14 I'M COMMITTED TO FIGHT THAT
11:08:15 BATTLE.
11:08:16 I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND
11:08:17 THAT BECAUSE I LIVED THAT, SO I
11:08:18 UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION WITH,
11:08:19 ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN,
11:08:20 BECAUSE I WORKED IN SCHOOLS AND
11:08:22 I UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS IN
11:08:27 OUR COMMUNITIES THEY TAKE TO
11:08:27 SCHOOL.
11:08:28 >> RIGHT.
11:08:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M COMMITTED,
11:08:30 I THINK THIS BOARD IS
11:08:32 COMMITTED, AND WE'RE GOING TO
11:08:33 DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
11:08:33 WE'RE GOING TO TRY OUR BEST TO
11:08:33 MAKE SURE WE MAKE IT THE BEST
11:08:34 THAT WE CAN FOR OUR GENERATION
11:08:35 TO COME.
11:08:37 >> I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT,
11:08:38 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE NEXT
11:08:39 GENERATION TO GO THROUGH WHAT
11:08:40 I'M GOING THROUGH NOW, AND THAT
11:08:42 WOULD BE SO TRAGIC TO KNOW
11:08:44 THAT, AS A MOTHER, WE PUSH THE
11:08:45 BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE A
11:08:46 GOOD LIFE, AND THEN WHEN WE'RE
11:08:48 DEAD AND GONE, THEY'RE STILL
11:08:49 GOING THROUGH THE STRUGGLE.
11:08:50 WE DON'T WANT THAT FOR OUR
11:08:51 CHILDREN, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT
11:08:54 -- I'M FROM JAMAICA, BORN AND
11:08:55 RAISED IN JAMAICA, AND I KNOW
11:08:56 MY PARENTS DID NOT WANT ME TO
11:08:58 GO THROUGH WHAT I'M GOING
11:08:59 THROUGH NOW, AND I KNOW I DON'T
11:09:00 WANT THAT FOR MY CHILDREN.
11:09:01 LIKE I SAID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
11:09:01 TIME.
11:09:02 I REALLY WISH THAT YOU ALL
11:09:03 WOULD PUSH FORWARD FOR THE
11:09:04 HOUSING.
11:09:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR
11:09:06 COMING.
11:09:06 THANK YOU.
11:09:09 >> THANK YOU.
11:09:18 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:09:19 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:09:22 >> MY NAME IS RICK FERNANDEZ,
11:09:24 2906 NORTH ELMORE.
11:09:25 I THINK I'VE MET -- I KNOW I'VE
11:09:27 MET ALL OF YOU.
11:09:28 I'M OUT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:09:28 I CHAIR THE TRANSPORTATION
11:09:31 COMMITTEE FOR THE CIVIC
11:09:31 ASSOCIATION.
11:09:35 I'M ALSO ON THE MPO CAC AS VICE
11:09:38 CHAIR, AND MOST NOTABLY, IN
11:09:40 CONTEXT OF THIS CONVERSATION,
11:09:41 CITY COUNCIL WAS KIND ENOUGH TO
11:09:42 APPOINT ME TO THE INDEPENDENT
11:09:47 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN JANUARY,
11:09:48 I BELIEVE IT WAS.
11:09:49 THAT IS THE COMMITTEE THAT IS
11:09:51 TO BE REVIEWING EXPENDITURES
11:09:54 UNDER THE NEW TAX REFERENDUM.
11:09:55 ALL OF WHICH IS TO SAY YOU'LL
11:09:58 BE HEARING A LOT FROM ME ON
11:10:00 ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH
11:10:01 TRANSPORTATION OVER THE COMING
11:10:02 MONTHS AND YEARS, FOR BETTER OR
11:10:03 WORSE.
11:10:04 FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS I'VE
11:10:05 BEEN COMING TO THIS GROUP,
11:10:08 EITHER AS CRA OR CITY COUNCIL,
11:10:10 IN OPPOSITION TO TBX.
11:10:13 IT'S NOW CALLED TAMPA BAY NEXT.
11:10:14 IT'S STILL TBX.
11:10:17 ALL OF THE PIECES OF TBX ARE
11:10:18 STILL THERE.
11:10:19 IF YOU LOOK AT THE T.I.P., THIS
11:10:21 YEAR IT'S TABLE 2, LINE 29, I
11:10:22 BELIEVE.
11:10:23 THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN LINES
11:10:24 THERE THAT IDENTIFY CERTAIN
11:10:25 PROJECTS.
11:10:27 THEY'RE ALL THE OLD TBX
11:10:29 PROJECTS, AND THEY'RE ALL UNDER
11:10:31 STUDY OF ONE TYPE OR ANOTHER.
11:10:34 OF I'M HERE TODAY IN AN EFFORT
11:10:36 TO TRY NOW, SINCE WE HAVE
11:10:37 ALIGNMENT OF PARTIES WITH
11:10:40 PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE FDOT
11:10:42 PRESENTATION, TO TRY TO REBUT
11:10:43 IN THREE MINUTES WHAT THEY TOOK
11:10:44 AN HOUR OR MORE TO SAY.
11:10:47 OBVIOUSLY, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO
11:10:47 DO.
11:10:48 AS I WAS STANDING THERE TRYING
11:10:51 TO TRIAGE MY NOTES, I FIGURED
11:10:53 THE BEST THING I COULD DO IS
11:10:53 JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF
11:10:55 POINTS, SOME OF WHICH ACTUALLY
11:10:57 WERE RAISED BY MEMBERS OF THE
11:10:57 COUNCIL.
11:10:59 FIRST OF ALL, HAVING TO DO WITH
11:11:00 THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE
11:11:02 ALTERNATIVES, THERE ARE FOUR OF
11:11:03 THEM THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY
11:11:06 BEING LOOKED AT, INCLUDING --
11:11:08 OR NOT INCLUDING, IN ADDITION
11:11:10 TO A NO-BUILD OPTION.
11:11:12 IT IS THE SENTIMENT OF THE
11:11:13 COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENT THAT
11:11:15 THE NO-BUILD OPTION IS THE
11:11:17 DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.
11:11:19 OF THE FOUR OTHER ALTERNATIVES
11:11:20 THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED, ALL
11:11:22 OF THEM INVOLVE DESTRUCTION OF
11:11:24 ONE TYPE OR ANOTHER AT ONE
11:11:27 LEVEL OR ANOTHER OF HISTORIC
11:11:29 DOWNTOWN COMMUNITIES.
11:11:32 NONE OF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE AS A
11:11:33 PRICE TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL
11:11:34 CARS, CONGESTION, AND
11:11:34 POLLUTION.
11:11:36 THERE'S A LOT MORE I COULD SAY
11:11:37 ABOUT THAT, BUT TIME DOESN'T
11:11:39 PERMIT.
11:11:41 ALSO, WITH REGARDS TO SECTION
11:11:43 7, THAT'S THE SECTION NORTH OF
11:11:45 THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE THAT
11:11:46 RUNS THROUGH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:11:48 I FIND IT ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
11:11:50 THAT WE COULD SIT HERE FOR AN
11:11:52 HOUR TO AN HOUR AND A HALF AND
11:11:53 NOT ONE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
11:11:55 FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
11:11:56 TRANSPORTATION SO MUCH AS
11:11:58 MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THERE
11:12:00 WAS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS
11:12:02 PD&E AT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ABOUT
11:12:04 SIX WEEKS AGO.
11:12:05 SOME OF YOU WERE THERE,
11:12:08 STANDING-ROOM ONLY, PUBLIC
11:12:08 COMMENT TAKEN, AND IT CLEARLY
11:12:10 WAS THE SENTIMENT OF THAT
11:12:12 COMMUNITY THAT THAT PROJECT, AS
11:12:14 ENVISIONED BY FDOT, SHOULD NOT
11:12:16 GO FORWARD AND THAT A NO-BUILD
11:12:18 ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE A
11:12:19 PREFERENCE, AND SEVERAL PEOPLE
11:12:20 VOICED PREFERENCE FOR THE
11:12:21 BOULEVARD.
11:12:22 AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE TIME.
11:12:23 I COULD TALK TO YOU FOR AN
11:12:24 HOUR, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE
11:12:28 CHANCES TO TALK IN THE FUTURE.
11:12:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
11:12:32 PUBLIC COMMENTS?
11:12:34 SEEING NONE, MR. DINGFELDER,
11:12:45 ITEM NO. 4.
11:12:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE
11:12:49 RESOLUTION ITEM NO. 4.
11:12:50 >> SECOND.
11:12:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE HAS BEEN
11:12:55 A MOTION TO MOVE RESOLUTION ON
11:12:56 ITEM NO. 4 BY COUNCILMAN
11:12:58 DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY
11:12:59 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:13:00 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:13:01 ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:02 SO MOVED.
11:13:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
11:13:04 MR. CHAIRMAN, ON NO. 5, WHICH
11:13:06 I'LL BE GLAD TO MOVE IN A
11:13:07 SECOND, I JUST HAD A QUESTION
11:13:11 FOR MR. McDONAUGH.
11:13:14 I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT MAIN
11:13:14 STREET AREA.
11:13:15 AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY WIFE
11:13:18 AND I AND OUR PARTNERS HAVE A
11:13:20 PROPERTY ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS
11:13:22 FURTHER WEST, BUT WHEN I
11:13:24 GOOGLED UP THIS PARTICULAR
11:13:25 PROPERTY -- AND I'M FAMILIAR
11:13:27 WITH IT -- IT'S ON -- ON THE
11:13:30 FACADE, IT'S NOW A METRO -- I
11:13:33 THINK A METRO PCS?
11:13:35 YEAH, THERE'S SORT OF A
11:13:36 BEFORE-AND-AFTER.
11:13:38 IT LOOKS -- IT APPEARS TO ME IN
11:13:39 WATCHING THAT BUILDING THAT
11:13:42 THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE WORK
11:13:42 ON THE FACADE?
11:13:44 I MEAN, THEY'VE DONE GREAT
11:13:46 IMPROVEMENTS, THEY'VE DONE --
11:13:47 THEY'VE POINTED THE BRICK AND
11:13:48 THE WHOLE THING.
11:13:50 WHAT'S OUR POLICY ON WORK
11:13:51 THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE?
11:13:52 >>BOB McDONAUGH: NO, NO, THIS
11:13:54 IS NOT FOR WORK ALREADY DONE,
11:13:56 THIS IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE,
11:13:57 AND, ACTUALLY, THE OWNER'S HERE
11:13:59 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK --
11:14:00 OWNER'S HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE
11:14:01 TO SPEAK WITH HIM, BUT IF YOU
11:14:03 NOTICE, UP IN THE SECOND FLOOR,
11:14:04 THOSE ARE THE NONTRADITIONAL
11:14:05 WINDOWS.
11:14:06 IT'S RESTORATION OF THE
11:14:07 ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND SOME OTHER
11:14:08 STUCCO WORK AS WELL, BUT THE
11:14:10 OWNER'S HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO
11:14:11 QUESTION THEM.
11:14:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:14:12 THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
11:14:14 YOU'RE THE CITY'S
11:14:15 REPRESENTATIVE.
11:14:16 >>BOB McDONAUGH: CORRECT.
11:14:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE THE
11:14:17 CRA'S REPRESENTATIVE.
11:14:19 YOU'RE HERE TO TELL US THAT
11:14:19 THIS IS ADDITIONAL WORK --
11:14:19 >>BOB McDONAUGH: CORRECT.
11:14:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- WINDOWS,
11:14:22 IMPROVEMENT, HISTORIC --
11:14:22 >>BOB McDONAUGH: YES.
11:14:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT SORT OF
11:14:23 THING THAT'S YET TO COME?
11:14:25 >>BOB McDONAUGH: HE'S ALREADY
11:14:27 REMOVED STUCCO AT HIS OWN
11:14:28 EXPENSE.
11:14:28 HE'S ALREADY DONE OTHER WORK AT
11:14:28 HIS OWN EXPENSE.
11:14:28 THIS IS THE NEXT TRANCHE OF
11:14:30 WORK TO BE COMPLETED ON THE
11:14:30 BUILDING.
11:14:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M
11:14:32 COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, AND I'LL
11:14:34 BE GLAD TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:14:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:14:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NO. 5
11:14:37 RESOLUTION HAS BEEN MOVED BY
11:14:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECONDED
11:14:40 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:14:42 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:14:43 ALL OPPOSED.
11:14:47 RESOLUTION IS PASSED.
11:14:49 INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW
11:14:50 BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS
11:14:51 PERTAINING TO CRA?
11:14:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:14:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT TO DWELL
11:15:01 ON IT, BUT I WILL A LITTLE BIT
11:15:02 LONGER.
11:15:05 OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THE
11:15:06 DISCUSSION CAME UP AS RELATED
11:15:10 IN THE BIG PICTURE OF CRAs THAT
11:15:12 WE -- WE HIRE -- WE ARE THE
11:15:16 CRA, WE ALL KNOW THAT -- THE --
11:15:18 WE HIRE THE CITY AND THE CITY
11:15:21 STAFF TO BE OUR MANAGERS.
11:15:22 I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO GET SOME
11:15:24 DETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT --
11:15:26 WHAT THAT COSTS US ON ANNUAL
11:15:27 BASIS.
11:15:29 AND I ALSO WONDER,
11:15:33 HISTORICALLY, HAS IT EVER BEEN
11:15:35 ANY DIFFERENT SINCE THE VERY
11:15:36 FIRST CRA, WHICH, I DON'T KNOW,
11:15:37 MAYBE THAT WAS YBOR OR
11:15:38 SOMETHING, AND THIS ISN'T A
11:15:42 QUESTION FOR TODAY, BOB.
11:15:44 JUST SORT OF HISTORICALLY LOOK
11:15:45 AT THAT, HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN
11:15:47 HIRING THE CITY, IS THAT OUR
11:15:48 BEST PRACTICE, IS THAT A
11:15:51 PRACTICE THAT'S DONE ALL OVER
11:15:54 THE NATION NECESSARILY, DO
11:15:56 OTHER CRAs AUTOMATICALLY HIRE
11:15:58 THEIR OWN CITY, OR IS IT
11:15:59 SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD
11:16:01 EXPLORE IN TERMS OF PUTTING OUT
11:16:03 AN RFP TO THE COMMUNITY,
11:16:05 PERHAPS TO SOME NONPROFITS,
11:16:07 MAYBE ON AN EXPLORATORY BASIS
11:16:09 OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S PICK ONE
11:16:12 CRAs, FOR EXAMPLE, EAST TAMPA
11:16:14 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SAY
11:16:15 -- YOU KNOW, PUT OUT AN RFP.
11:16:17 IF THE CITY WANTS TO COMPETE IN
11:16:19 THAT RFP, FINE; IF NONPROFITS
11:16:21 WANT TO COMPETE IN THAT RFP TO
11:16:22 BE THE MANAGER OF THAT
11:16:23 PARTICULAR CRA, THEN IT'S
11:16:25 SOMETHING WE COULD EXPLORE.
11:16:28 I KNOW IT'S NOT BUSINESS AS
11:16:29 USUAL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT
11:16:31 DID COME OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN
11:16:33 TRAIL, AND I THINK IT'S
11:16:35 SOMETHING THAT AS -- LIKE I
11:16:37 SAY, WE ARE THE CRA, AND WE
11:16:40 HAVE A VERY BIG -- HUGE
11:16:43 FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO
11:16:45 MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE IN THE
11:16:47 BEST POSSIBLE WAY AND THE MOST
11:16:48 INCLUSIVE POSSIBLE WAY, AND
11:16:50 MAYBE IT'S MORE INCLUSIVE TO
11:16:52 LET THE COMMUNITY ITSELF BE
11:16:53 INVOLVED IN MANAGING IT AS
11:16:56 OPPOSED TO THE CITY DOING IT ON
11:16:58 A TOP-DOWN BASIS, SO I JUST
11:17:00 WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE
11:17:02 AS, LIKE YOU SAY, NEW BUSINESS,
11:17:03 AS SOMETHING WE COULD POSSIBLY
11:17:04 EXPLORE AND GET A REPORT BACK
11:17:06 FROM THE LEGAL, BECAUSE I'M
11:17:07 SURE THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES, AS
11:17:11 WELL AS STAFF DOWN THE ROAD.
11:17:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
11:17:13 GO AHEAD.
11:17:14 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:17:16 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU'D LIKE
11:17:17 TO TURN THAT INTO A MOTION, I
11:17:17 WOULD SECOND IT.
11:17:19 IT'S -- I THINK IT'S GOOD TO
11:17:20 HOLD ANY ORGANIZATION
11:17:23 ACCOUNTABLE, AND THERE HAVE
11:17:25 BEEN SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE --
11:17:26 THAT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
11:17:28 ABOUT THE COSTS THAT THE CITY
11:17:30 CHARGES THE CRAs, AND IT WOULD
11:17:31 BE INTERESTING TO PUT IT OUT TO
11:17:33 AN RFP TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT
11:17:36 WOULD COME BACK, TO SEE IF THE
11:17:37 CITY IS COMPETITIVE.
11:17:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER
11:17:38 STATEMENTS?
11:17:39 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:17:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL BE GLAD
11:17:41 TO DO THAT IN THE FORM OF A
11:17:42 MOTION.
11:17:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HANG ON
11:17:43 ONE SECOND?
11:17:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, SURE,
11:17:45 MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:17:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
11:17:47 HAVING WORKED WITH A CRA AND
11:17:48 KNOWING THE FLAK THAT WE'RE
11:17:49 GETTING FROM THE STATE OF
11:17:52 FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY ON LOCAL
11:17:54 RULE, WE ARE -- EXCUSE ME --
11:17:56 THE CRAs AND THIS BOARD HAVE
11:17:58 BEEN THE MOST HARDWORKING TO
11:18:00 MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS
11:18:03 TRANSPARENT AND ABOVEBOARD,
11:18:04 AND, AGAIN, WE ARE HAVING A
11:18:05 SITUATION WITH THE STATE OF
11:18:06 FLORIDA THAT WANTS TO TAKE AWAY
11:18:09 LOCAL RULES CONCERNING CRAs.
11:18:13 HAVING SAID THAT, COUNCIL, WILL
11:18:14 YOU BRIEF US ON -- COUNSEL,
11:18:16 WILL YOU BRIEF US ON YOUR
11:18:17 OPINION ON THAT?
11:18:18 >>SAL TERRITO: [OFF
11:18:18 MICROPHONE].
11:18:19 I WAS HERE IN THE CREATION, AND
11:18:21 I WAS DOING IT WHEN THE CRA WAS
11:18:21 CREATED.
11:18:23 IT WAS DONE BACK THEN -- THIS
11:18:25 IS SAL TERRITO, I'M SORRY, FOR
11:18:25 THE RECORD.
11:18:27 IF YOU REMEMBER BACK THEN, WE
11:18:28 ONLY HAD ONE CRA -- AS YOU
11:18:29 KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE CRA,
11:18:31 THAT'S YOU, AND THERE WERE MANY
11:18:32 AREAS IN THE CRA.
11:18:33 BACK THEN THE ONLY ONE WE HAD
11:18:34 WAS DOWNTOWN.
11:18:35 THERE'S NOT A LOT TO DO UNTIL
11:18:37 THE MONEY WAS PUT THERE UNTIL
11:18:38 THE CONVENTION CENTER.
11:18:40 AS YOU ADDED MORE, THE DECISION
11:18:42 HAD TO BE MADE DOES IT MAKE
11:18:43 SENSE TO CONTINUE WITH THE
11:18:44 OPERATION THAT YOU HAVE AND
11:18:46 HAVE THE CITY CONTINUE TO
11:18:46 PROVIDE YOU WITH THOSE
11:18:48 SERVICES, AND IT WAS FOUND THAT
11:18:49 THAT WAS THE MOST
11:18:50 COST-EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT
11:18:52 BECAUSE YOU DO SHARE THE PEOPLE
11:18:54 THAT ARE WORKING HERE, MANY OF
11:18:56 THEM, INCLUDING MR. McDONAUGH,
11:18:57 GETS PAID FROM THE CITY AS WELL
11:18:57 AS THE CRA.
11:18:59 HE MAY NOT EVEN BE GETTING ANY
11:19:00 CRA FUNDING.
11:19:01 OTHER MANAGERS, THERE'S A
11:19:01 SHARE.
11:19:03 THAT COMES OUT EVERY YEAR.
11:19:05 YOU GET THE FIGURES.
11:19:07 IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH
11:19:08 MONEY IS GOING TO EACH CRA
11:19:09 AREA, HOW MUCH IS COMING FROM
11:19:11 THE CITY, HOW MUCH IS COMING
11:19:13 FROM THE CRA, HOW MUCH IS FOR
11:19:14 ADMINISTRATION.
11:19:15 THAT HAS ALL BEEN ESTABLISHED.
11:19:16 THIS IS YOUR DECISION ON HOW
11:19:17 YOU WANT TO OPERATE IT.
11:19:18 YOU DO HAVE TO KEEP THE CITY
11:19:19 ATTORNEY, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR
11:19:20 YOUR BENEFIT, IF YOU WANT TO
11:19:21 CHANGE IT BECAUSE THAT'S THE
11:19:23 WAY IT WAS CREATED.
11:19:23 IF YOU WANT TO BRING SOMEBODY
11:19:25 ELSE IN, CERTAINLY THAT'S IN
11:19:26 YOUR AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, BUT
11:19:28 IT HAS FOUND TO BE THE -- HAS
11:19:30 BEEN FOUND TO BE THE MOST
11:19:31 COST-EFFICIENT TO DO IT THE WAY
11:19:32 WE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE YOU'RE
11:19:33 SHARING THE COSTS.
11:19:34 UNDER THE STATUTE THAT JUST
11:19:36 CAME OUT, YOU STILL HAVE TO
11:19:37 FOLLOW THE CITY'S PROCEDURES,
11:19:38 SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FROM
11:19:40 THE OUTSIDE MANAGING IT, THEY
11:19:42 HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CITY'S
11:19:44 PROCEDURES AND USE THE CITY'S
11:19:45 PURCHASING DEPARTMENTS, ALL THE
11:19:46 OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SO THERE IS
11:19:47 A SHARING GOING ON RIGHT NOW,
11:19:51 BUT IT WAS REALLY DONE FOR COST
11:19:53 SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCY.
11:19:53 WHERE IT WAS ESTABLISHED IS A
11:19:53 LOT EASIER BECAUSE THERE WAS
11:19:53 NOTHING FOR YOU TO DO AND THE
11:19:53 MONEY WAS ALREADY BEING
11:19:53 ALLOCATED.
11:19:56 >> THERE'S NO LEGAL --
11:19:58 >>SAL TERRITO: IF YOU WANT TO
11:19:59 LOOK AT THAT AGAIN --
11:20:00 >> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
11:20:02 IS THERE NO LEGAL PROHIBITION,
11:20:02 THOUGH; RIGHT?
11:20:06 >>SAL TERRITO: THERE'S NO LEGAL
11:20:07 PROHIBITION FROM YOU HIRING
11:20:09 OUTSIDE STAFF, THAT'S
11:20:09 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
11:20:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU'D LIKE
11:20:10 TO MAKE A MOTION -- COUNCILMAN
11:20:11 DINGFELDER.
11:20:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
11:20:12 I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING
11:20:14 SAL JUST SAID.
11:20:15 I WOULD CLARIFY, PERHAPS, THAT
11:20:18 OUTSIDE AGENCIES UNDER OUR
11:20:19 SUPERVISION, IF WE CONTRACT
11:20:22 WITH THEM, THEY CAN FOLLOW CITY
11:20:23 PURCHASING POLICIES, THEY DON'T
11:20:25 HAVE TO USE THE CITY PURCHASING
11:20:26 AGENCY, AND I DON'T THINK
11:20:28 THAT'S NECESSARILY WHAT THE
11:20:28 STATUTE SAID.
11:20:28 >>SAL TERRITO: I THINK THEY
11:20:28 BASICALLY HAVE TO FOLLOW --
11:20:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY HAVE TO
11:20:36 FOLLOW GOVERNMENT STANDARDS AND
11:20:37 POLICIES.
11:20:37 >>SAL TERRITO: [OFF
11:20:41 MICROPHONE].
11:20:41 I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
11:20:41 I WILL LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
11:20:41 IT JUST CAME OUT A COUPLE OF
11:20:41 DAYS AGO.
11:20:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT, EVEN
11:20:44 SO, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE
11:20:45 ANYTHING TO CONCLUDE.
11:20:46 AND THE OTHER THING, AS YOU
11:20:48 KNOW, SAL, THE DOWNTOWN ONE WAS
11:20:49 ESTABLISHED AT LEAST 30 YEARS
11:20:49 AGO.
11:20:51 >>SAL TERRITO: IT WAS DONE IN
11:20:52 '82 OR '83.
11:20:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN TERMS OF
11:20:55 EXPLORING AT THE
11:20:56 COST-EFFECTIVENESS, I DON'T
11:21:00 KNOW THAT ANY COUNCIL/CRA HAS
11:21:01 REALLY EXPLORED IN A DEEP WAY
11:21:02 THE COST-EFFICIENCIES OF USING
11:21:03 IT.
11:21:06 LISTEN, LIKE MR. CARLSON SAID,
11:21:07 IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE
11:21:09 MANAGING ESPECIALLY MILLIONS
11:21:11 AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE
11:21:12 DIG INTO THESE THINGS AND MAKE
11:21:13 SURE WE'RE DOING THE BEST
11:21:14 POSSIBLE JOB.
11:21:15 WE DON'T KNOW IT IN THE
11:21:15 ABSTRACT.
11:21:17 I'LL MAKE THE MOTION JUST TO
11:21:19 MOVE IT FORWARD AND SEE WHERE
11:21:21 IT GOES.
11:21:22 SO NOTHING OVERNIGHT.
11:21:24 I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST START
11:21:29 THAT DISCUSSION 60 DAYS FROM
11:21:30 NOW AND WITH SOME OF THE
11:21:32 REPORTS FROM STAFF, FROM LEGAL,
11:21:34 AND JUST SOME IDEAS ON HOW WE
11:21:36 MIGHT GO OUT THERE, AND I'M NOT
11:21:38 SAYING DO IT CARTE BLANCHE, I'M
11:21:39 SAYING MAYBE EXPLORE IT ON AN
11:21:42 INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
11:21:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT THE
11:21:44 MOTION?
11:21:49 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:21:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK
11:21:53 FURTHER QUESTIONS?
11:21:55 MR. DINGFELDER, WHAT AGENCIES,
11:21:56 ARE WE LOOKING TO -- DO WE WANT
11:21:56 TO FARM IT OUT AND HAVE AN RFP
11:21:58 OR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL ON
11:22:00 WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE IT?
11:22:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:22:02 AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CITY
11:22:03 HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
11:22:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, MAYBE
11:22:05 THE CITY MAY NOT EVEN WANT TO
11:22:07 RESPOND, BUT THE CRAs, IN MY
11:22:09 LOOK, CERTAINLY ENHANCE THE
11:22:11 QUICKNESS OF DOING SOMETHING,
11:22:14 BUT IT DOES HAVE A SHORTFALL ON
11:22:16 THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CITY.
11:22:18 IT CERTAINLY TAKES AWAY --
11:22:19 PEOPLE THAT DO LIVE IN AN AREA
11:22:22 WHERE THERE ARE NO CRAs, IN
11:22:23 ESSENCE, CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN
11:22:25 WHAT THEY GET BACK BECAUSE
11:22:26 INDIRECTLY THEY FUND SOMETHING
11:22:28 IN THE CRA THAT THEY'RE GETTING
11:22:30 ZERO BACK FOR, SO, THEREFORE,
11:22:31 THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT
11:22:33 A CRA, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
11:22:35 CRAs, I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS,
11:22:37 THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THESE
11:22:37 CONVERSATIONS FROM TALLAHASSEE
11:22:40 ON DOWN, AND WE'RE GOING TO
11:22:42 LOOK AT CRAs -- I WANT TO
11:22:43 EXTEND YOUR MOTION FURTHER TO
11:22:46 FIND OUT WHAT EXTENSION DOES IT
11:22:48 HAVE ON THE COST OF THE CITY
11:22:50 BUDGET WHEN YOU ESTABLISH CRAs?
11:22:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, I'LL
11:22:54 ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY
11:22:55 MOTION.
11:22:56 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ADD TO
11:22:57 THAT?
11:22:59 TO CHAIRMAN CITRO'S POINT AND
11:23:00 ALSO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU
11:23:01 KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S
11:23:02 GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE, WE
11:23:04 REALLY NEED TO JUSTIFY, AT
11:23:05 LEAST ANNUALLY, WHY WE EVEN
11:23:08 HAVE THESE CRAs, AND AT WHAT
11:23:10 POINT WOULD WE WANT -- I DON'T
11:23:11 KNOW WHAT THE MECHANISM IS, BUT
11:23:13 AT WHAT POINT WOULD WE WANT TO
11:23:14 SUNSET THEM IF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
11:23:16 -- REALLY, AS COUNCILMAN
11:23:17 MIRANDA SAID, WE'RE TAKING
11:23:18 MONEY THAT COULD BE USED
11:23:20 CITYWIDE AND USING IT IN A
11:23:21 SPECIFIC AREA, AND SO WE NEED
11:23:22 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHOWING
11:23:23 THE TAXPAYERS THAT WE'RE USING
11:23:25 THEIR MONEY IN THE BEST
11:23:26 POSSIBLE WAY AND THAT IT'S
11:23:28 NEEDED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA,
11:23:29 AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF --
11:23:32 POTENTIALLY PART OF THE RFP.
11:23:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:23:33 MIRANDA.
11:23:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME CLEAR
11:23:36 UP WHAT I SAID IN FEWER WORDS.
11:23:37 CRAs ARE GREAT.
11:23:39 IT ENHANCES AN AREA QUICKER
11:23:43 THAN NORMALLY WOULD HAPPEN,
11:23:45 THAT'S THE MAIN THING OF IT,
11:23:47 BUT IT ALSO HAS A SHORTFALL IN
11:23:49 THAT OTHER AREAS YOU
11:23:50 PARTICIPATE.
11:23:51 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE AREA'S
11:23:53 NOT GOING TO GET ENHANCED, IT
11:23:55 JUST WOULD MAYBE TAKE LONGER TO
11:23:57 GET ENHANCED, AND THE CRA,
11:23:58 THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS
11:23:59 OF IT, AND THE WAY -- THE
11:24:00 CERTAIN CAP THAT THAT MONEY
11:24:02 STAYS IN THE CERTAIN DISTRICT
11:24:03 CERTAINLY ENHANCES IT QUICKER.
11:24:05 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF THE
11:24:06 ADMINISTRATION AND WHOEVER'S IN
11:24:07 THIS SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT,
11:24:09 THE LEGISLATURE, WOULD DO THE
11:24:11 DUE DILIGENCE AS WE SHOULD BE
11:24:12 DOING AND I THINK WE HAVE BEEN
11:24:13 DOING -- WOULD THAT INCREASE
11:24:15 THAT AREA THE SAME WAY?
11:24:16 YES, IT WOULD JUST TAKE A
11:24:17 NUMBER OF YEARS LONGER.
11:24:25 >>SAL TERRITO: MAY I JUST HAVE
11:24:25 ONE THING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:24:27 I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
11:24:27 SO IF YOU ABOLISH AN AREA,
11:24:29 YOU'VE LOST BASICALLY HALF OF
11:24:30 THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAVE TO
11:24:31 DEVELOP THAT AREA.
11:24:32 THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG REASONS
11:24:33 WHY YOU HAVE A CRA, IS BECAUSE
11:24:35 NOT ONLY DO YOU SHARE, THE
11:24:36 COUNTY SHARES, AND IN SOME
11:24:36 CASES THE PORT AUTHORITY
11:24:37 SHARES.
11:24:39 THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES THAT
11:24:40 SHARE, SO IF YOU CUT IT OFF,
11:24:41 YOU'RE BASICALLY CUTTING OFF
11:24:43 THEIR FORM OF MONEY AS WELL.
11:24:45 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT
11:24:47 SUGGESTING CUTTING IT OFF, IT'S
11:24:47 JUST THAT WE NEED TO ANALYZE IT
11:24:49 EVERY YEAR AND JUSTIFY TO
11:24:50 TAXPAYERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY
11:24:51 WHY WE HAVE IT IN THE FIRST
11:24:53 PLACE, AND THAT COULD BE PART
11:24:55 OF THE REQUIREMENT OF ANY RFP,
11:24:56 AND WHOEVER ENDS UP
11:24:58 ADMINISTRATING IT NEEDS TO SHOW
11:24:59 THAT.
11:25:00 >>SAL TERRITO: YOU DO KNOW THAT
11:25:02 EVERY YEAR YOU ENTER A CONTRACT
11:25:04 WITH THE CITY, YOU GET A CHANCE
11:25:05 -- I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU
11:25:05 OFF.
11:25:07 I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME
11:25:07 BACKGROUND.
11:25:09 SOME OF YOU ARE NEW; SOME OF
11:25:10 YOU HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME,
11:25:12 BUT EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GIVEN A
11:25:13 CONTRACT TO REVIEW, AND IN THAT
11:25:15 CONTRACT IT SPELLS OUT HOW MUCH
11:25:16 EACH AREA IS CONTRIBUTING TO
11:25:17 THAT.
11:25:19 WHATEVER DECISION YOU COME TO,
11:25:20 YOU CAN GET ANY OF THE
11:25:23 INFORMATION YOU WANT, THE CITY,
11:25:24 YOUR STAFF WILL PROVIDE YOU IN
11:25:25 MY INFORMATION YOU WANT TO HAVE
11:25:26 TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.
11:25:29 >> COUNSEL, IT DOESN'T NEED TO
11:25:30 BE DONE WITH THIS, THE COUNTY
11:25:32 WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT ALSO?
11:25:33 >>SAL TERRITO: NO, THE COUNTY
11:25:34 WOULD NOT HAVE TO APPROVE ON
11:25:36 ABOLITION IF YOU CHANGE.
11:25:37 NO, THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED WITH
11:25:38 THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:25:39 THEY JUST HAVE TO SHARE IN THE
11:25:41 EXPENSES.
11:25:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
11:25:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
11:25:44 CAN I HAVE YOU COME UP HERE
11:25:46 JUST FOR A SECOND JUST TO
11:25:49 CORRECT ME OR -- OR [OFF
11:25:52 MICROPHONE].
11:25:54 CRAs HAVE TO BE RENEWED?
11:25:54 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT'S
11:25:55 CORRECT.
11:25:55 >> THEY ARE NOT LASTING
11:25:56 FOREVER.
11:25:58 I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE CRAs
11:26:00 IN YBOR CITY IS DUE TO EXPIRE
11:26:01 20 --
11:26:01 >>BOB McDONAUGH: 2034.
11:26:05 >> -- 2034, SO THEY DON'T
11:26:07 ALWAYS LAST FOREVER, THEY HAVE
11:26:09 TO BE RENEWED; CORRECT?
11:26:09 >>BOB McDONAUGH: THAT'S
11:26:10 CORRECT.
11:26:11 WE RECENTLY EXTENDED THE
11:26:15 DOWNTOWN CRA AS AN EXAMPLE.
11:26:16 >> SO AT THE TIME OF THE
11:26:17 TERMINATION OR THE ENDING OF
11:26:19 THE CRAs INDIVIDUALLY, THE CITY
11:26:21 OR THE CRA BOARD CAN SAY, OKAY,
11:26:23 WE NO LONGER NEED THAT CRA?
11:26:24 >>BOB McDONAUGH: OR YOU COULD
11:26:25 CHOOSE TO DO IT EARLIER.
11:26:26 IF YOU LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC
11:26:28 ACTION PLAN AND YOU FELT THAT
11:26:29 MOST OF THE GOALS IN THE
11:26:31 STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN HAVE BEEN
11:26:33 MET, THEN YOU AND THE CITY AND
11:26:35 THE COUNTY, YOU COULD DECIDE --
11:26:37 SAY, OKAY, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS
11:26:39 NOW MATURE, THAT THE BLIGHT
11:26:42 THAT EXISTED PREVIOUSLY IS NO
11:26:43 LONGER AROUND.
11:26:44 PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE OF
11:26:45 THAT WOULD BE THE CHANNEL
11:26:46 DISTRICT.
11:26:47 WHEN THE CRA WAS FOUNDED, IT
11:26:49 WAS VERY MUCH AN TRULY DISTRICT
11:26:53 THAT WAS UNDERGOING CHANGE, AND
11:26:56 VIRTUALLY, MOST OF THE GOALS IN
11:26:58 THAT STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN HAVE
11:26:58 BEEN REACHED.
11:27:00 THERE IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF
11:27:01 THE THIRD PARK, WHICH HAS
11:27:03 ALREADY BEEN CONTRACTED FOR,
11:27:05 AND THERE'S ALSO SOME ROADWORK
11:27:07 AND SIDEWALK WORK, WHICH HAS
11:27:08 ALSO BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
11:27:09 THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A
11:27:11 24-MONTH PROCESS.
11:27:12 COUNCIL HAD APPROVED ABOUT $13
11:27:15 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES, BUT TO
11:27:16 THE END OF THAT PERIOD,
11:27:17 VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE WORK THAT
11:27:19 WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED IN
11:27:21 THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN WILL
11:27:25 HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, SO THAT'S
11:27:27 PROBABLY A BETTER EXAMPLE.
11:27:28 AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY
11:27:29 SMALL AND FINITE AREA WHERE YOU
11:27:30 HAVE SOMETHING LIKE EAST TAMPA,
11:27:32 WHICH IS A GIGANTIC PHYSICAL
11:27:34 PLACE.
11:27:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,
11:27:36 MR. McDONAUGH.
11:27:38 >>SAL TERRITO: AND JUST FOR
11:27:41 YOUR BENEFIT, 2043 IS THE
11:27:42 DEADLINE ASSUMING IT CONTINUES
11:27:44 THAT LONG FOR THE FUNDING.
11:27:46 WE HAVE A 60-YEAR FUNDING
11:27:50 WINDOW, FROM '83 TO '43, 1983
11:27:50 TO 1943.
11:27:52 AFTER THAT, UNLESS THE STATUTE
11:27:54 CHANGES, EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO
11:27:56 CONTINUE, YOU COULD NOT.
11:27:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE'S A --
11:27:59 I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:28:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M A LITTLE
11:28:04 BIT CONFUSED.
11:28:06 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUNSETTING.
11:28:07 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT -- FOR ME,
11:28:09 I SEE WHERE MR. DINGFELDER'S
11:28:10 GOING.
11:28:15 WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CRAs,
11:28:16 AND WHEN I SIT BACK AND I LOOK
11:28:19 AT ALL THESE CRAs, ONE HAS
11:28:24 NEVER REALLY THRIVED, SO MY
11:28:28 QUESTION IS ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:28:30 ARE A LOT MORE RESOURCES GOING
11:28:34 TO CHANNEL OR DOWNTOWN OR YEC,
11:28:36 OR IS THE EAST TAMPA CRA NOT
11:28:37 GETTING ALL OF THE RESOURCES
11:28:38 LIKE EVERYONE IS BENEFITING?
11:28:41 THAT'S MY QUESTION, TO FIND OUT
11:28:43 THE ACCOUNTABILITY LEVEL,
11:28:44 BECAUSE IF WE'VE HAD A CRA THAT
11:28:46 LONG IN THE EAST -- AND TO ME,
11:28:48 WE HAVE NOT REALLY ARRIVED, BUT
11:28:50 EVERYONE ELSE HAS ARRIVED --
11:28:51 MAYBE THE MONEY BASE -- USUALLY
11:28:53 THE TAX BASE AND SO FORTH, BUT
11:28:54 I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF
11:28:55 RESOURCES ARE PUT INTO
11:28:56 CHANNELSIDE OR HOW MUCH
11:28:57 RESOURCES ARE PUT INTO THE
11:29:01 OTHER CRAs THAT MAKE US IN EAST
11:29:02 TAMPA NOT THRIVE, SO I SEE
11:29:04 WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT A
11:29:05 LITTLE BIT, MR. DINGFELDER.
11:29:07 >>SAL TERRITO: THE MONEY HAS TO
11:29:07 BE SPENT IN THE AREA IT'S
11:29:09 COLLECTED, SO IF YOU COLLECTED
11:29:11 THREE TIMES AS MUCH DOWNTOWN,
11:29:12 YOU COULD NOT -- AND AS YOU
11:29:13 REALIZED WHEN THE RECESSION
11:29:15 HIT, EAST TAMPA WENT ALMOST
11:29:18 BELOW ZERO.
11:29:19 THEY HAD NOTHING COMING IN, SO
11:29:19 THEY COULDN'T SPEND ANY
11:29:19 FUNDING.
11:29:21 WHATEVER THEY HAD, THEY COULD
11:29:23 SPEND, BUT AS YOU KNOW, YOU
11:29:24 CANNOT SPEND MONEY FROM ONE
11:29:26 AREA IN ANOTHER.
11:29:28 TO YOUR POINT, I GET IT.
11:29:30 IF THERE ISN'T A CRA THERE,
11:29:31 THAT MONEY GOES TO THE GENERAL
11:29:32 FUND AND THAT MONEY CAN BE USED
11:29:34 ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
11:29:35 THAT'S THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING.
11:29:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW ABOUT
11:29:37 THAT POINT.
11:29:39 MY THING IS WHEN I SAY
11:29:40 RESOURCES OR ACCOUNTABILITY,
11:29:42 CITY RESOURCES.
11:29:44 ARE OUR CITY STAFF MORE FOCUSED
11:29:47 OR BEING TOLD TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:29:47 WE'RE GETTING DEVELOPMENT DONE,
11:29:47 MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING
11:29:50 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT CRA?
11:29:50 THAT'S MY POINT IN THE MATTER
11:29:52 BECAUSE THINGS JUST DON'T
11:29:53 HAPPEN UNLESS WE MAKE IT
11:29:55 HAPPEN, SO MY THING IS
11:29:55 ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:29:58 ARE WE HAVING ALL OF OUR CITY
11:30:00 STAFF -- IF I'M A MAYOR OR IF
11:30:02 I'M A COUNCILMAN AND I'VE GOT A
11:30:05 CRA AND IT JUST ISN'T THRIVING,
11:30:09 I WANT TO KNOW WHO ALL'S
11:30:09 WORKING?
11:30:11 IS THE TOP INVOLVED IN THAT
11:30:12 PROCESS?
11:30:15 IS HE TRYING TO GET -- OR HER
11:30:16 -- TRYING TO GET ALL THESE
11:30:16 RESOURCES?
11:30:18 THAT'S MY QUESTION I NEED TO
11:30:18 FIND OUT, THE ACCOUNTABILITY
11:30:19 ASPECT OF WHERE ARE ALL THE
11:30:20 PEOPLE BECAUSE I KNOW IN OTHER
11:30:23 AREA CRAs, THERE ARE A LOT OF
11:30:24 PEOPLE INVOLVED.
11:30:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:30:26 DINGFELDER.
11:30:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST
11:30:28 CLARIFY MY MOTION SO IT DOESN'T
11:30:32 GET CONFUSED, AND IF FOLKS WANT
11:30:33 TO ADD ON TO THAT MOTION, AS
11:30:35 MR. MIRANDA INDICATED, I'M FINE
11:30:36 WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE
11:30:38 DISCUSSING ALL OF THIS, BUT MY
11:30:40 MOTION IS STRICTLY RELATED TO
11:30:42 MANAGEMENT WITHOUT CASTING ANY
11:30:44 ASPERSIONS ON THE CITY OR CITY
11:30:49 MANAGERS WHO -- YOU KNOW -- BOB
11:30:51 AND I GO WAY BACK, AND I THINK
11:30:52 HE'S A GREAT GUY AND A HARD
11:30:54 WORKER, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN
11:30:54 ANYTHING'S PERFECT.
11:30:55 I WANT US TO HAVE THAT
11:30:56 DISCUSSION.
11:30:58 PERHAPS A WORKSHOP FORMAT MIGHT
11:31:01 BE A LITTLE -- A LITTLE BIT
11:31:02 BETTER.
11:31:05 THAT'S UP TO MR. CHAIRMAN,
11:31:06 HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROCEED
11:31:08 PROCEDURALLY.
11:31:10 BUT -- BUT, YOU KNOW, I THREW
11:31:11 IT OUT THERE.
11:31:15 MR. MIRANDA AND MR. CARLSON
11:31:17 BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD IDEAS AND
11:31:18 QUESTIONS PERHAPS ABOUT THE
11:31:20 VIABILITY AND LONGEVITY AND
11:31:23 SUNSETTING POSSIBILITIES OF
11:31:25 SOME OF THESE AREAS, AND THANK
11:31:26 YOU, SAL, FOR ENHANCING THAT
11:31:26 DISCUSSION.
11:31:28 I GUESS THE MOTION, AS IT'S
11:31:30 STATED RIGHT NOW, IS TO -- YOU
11:31:31 KNOW, TO EXPLORE THE
11:31:33 POSSIBILITIES OF LOOKING INTO
11:31:35 RFPs OR -- YOU KNOW, FOR
11:31:37 MANAGEMENT PURPOSES, AND TO
11:31:39 HAVE A REPORT IN REGARD TO THE
11:31:41 OTHER ISSUES RAISED BY
11:31:44 MR. MIRANDA AND MR. CARLSON AS
11:31:46 TO LONGEVITY AND SUNSETTING.
11:31:48 >> MR. DINGFELDER --
11:31:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT I DON'T
11:31:50 NECESSARILY FAVOR SUNSETTING.
11:31:52 I THINK WE DO HAVE A GOOD DEAL,
11:31:54 WE GET COUNTY MONEY, AND I'M
11:31:56 NOT IN FAVOR OF SUNSETTING.
11:31:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:31:58 DINGFELDER, WE HAVE A MOTION ON
11:31:59 THE FLOOR THAT HAS BEEN
11:31:59 SECONDED.
11:32:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CLARIFIED
11:32:01 IT, THAT'S ALL.
11:32:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU WANT TO
11:32:03 WITHDRAW THAT MOTION?
11:32:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT AT ALL.
11:32:05 IT'S CLARIFIED.
11:32:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A
11:32:07 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
11:32:10 DINGFELDER, AMENDED BY
11:32:11 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
11:32:13 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:32:14 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:32:14 ALL OPPOSED.
11:32:16 YOUR MOTION CARRIES.
11:32:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,
11:32:17 MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:32:18 THANK YOU, BOARD.
11:32:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY,
11:32:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:32:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED TO
11:32:23 MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR.
11:32:27 EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT A TASK
11:32:29 FORCE IN REFERENCE TO OUR
11:32:30 HOUSING CRISIS.
11:32:31 I THINK WE SAID WE DIDN'T NEED
11:32:33 A MOTION ON THAT, IS THAT
11:32:34 CORRECT, CHAIR?
11:32:39 >> [OFF MICROPHONE].
11:32:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ASKED
11:32:42 MR. McDONAUGH TO PROVIDE US A
11:32:44 REPORT ON WHAT THE CRA DOES AS
11:32:46 RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:32:47 I ASKED HIM IF HE NEEDED A
11:32:49 MOTION, AND HE SAID NO, HE'D
11:32:51 JUST COME BACK AND GIVE US A
11:32:51 REPORT ON THAT.
11:32:53 IF YOU WANT TO STRENGTHEN THAT
11:32:54 WITH A MOTION, THAT'S UP TO
11:32:55 YOU.
11:32:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL GET THE
11:32:56 INFORMATION.
11:32:57 THAT WILL BE FINE UP TO THIS
11:32:58 POINT.
11:32:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:33:00 MANISCALCO.
11:33:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
11:33:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:33:02 VIERA.
11:33:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:33:03 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE
11:33:06 THAT CRA MEMBERS WRITE A LETTER
11:33:08 OF SUPPORT FOR THE URBAN LAND
11:33:09 INSTITUTE TAMPA BAY AS THEY
11:33:10 APPLY TO THE URBAN LAND
11:33:10 INSTITUTE'S --
11:33:11 >> SECOND.
11:33:12 >>LUIS VIERA: -- BUILDING
11:33:13 HEALTHY PLACES INITIATIVE
11:33:14 GRANT.
11:33:14 THIS IS A GRANT FROM THE ROBERT
11:33:15 -- JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME
11:33:16 BRIEF BACKGROUND, THIS IS A
11:33:18 GRANT FROM THE ROBERT WOOD
11:33:19 JOHNSON FOUNDATION THAT WILL
11:33:20 PROVIDE HELP AND ASSISTANCE TO
11:33:21 IDENTIFY POLICIES AND
11:33:23 RECOMMENDATIONS ON AREAS LIKE
11:33:25 PARKING REGULATIONS, ZONING,
11:33:27 AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IF
11:33:29 CHOSEN, TAMPA WOULD BE ONE OF
11:33:30 FOUR CITIES TO TAKE PART IN
11:33:31 THIS.
11:33:31 >> SECOND.
11:33:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A MOTION
11:33:34 THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY
11:33:36 COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
11:33:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:33:39 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:33:40 ALL OPPOSED.
11:33:42 MOTION PASSES.
11:33:43 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING FURTHER,
11:33:44 SIR.
11:33:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY
11:33:45 MUCH.
11:33:45 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:33:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
11:33:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN
11:33:49 CARLSON.
11:33:50 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:33:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN, LADIES
11:33:51 AND GENTLEMEN, IF I HEAR NO
11:33:52 OBJECTION -- OR A MOTION TO --
11:33:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO
11:33:56 RECEIVE AND FILE THE DOCUMENTS
11:33:57 FROM TODAY.
11:33:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:33:59 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:33:59 ALL OPPOSED.
11:34:01 MOTION TO ADJOURN.
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