TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 23, 2019
9:00 A.M. WORKSHOP SESSION
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9:05:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
9:05:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:05:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:30AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE JOHN
9:05:32AM SCHIFINO TO PLEASE COME FORWARD FOR THE PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF
9:05:35AM ALLEGIANCE. MR. SCHIFINO IS A RESPECTED AND WELL-KNOWN
9:05:37AM TRIAL AND PUBLIC ATTORNEY WHO WORKS IN THE LAW FIRM OF
9:05:41AM GUNSTER YOAKELY AND STEWART HERE IN TAMPA. HE PRACTICES IN
9:05:44AM BUSINESS LITIGATION, LABOR EMPLOYMENT AND MEDIATION.
9:05:46AM HE IS FINISHING UP A VERY BUSY YEAR OF SERVICE AS PRESIDENT
9:05:49AM OF THE ORGANIZATION, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR
9:05:53AM ASSOCIATION, AND HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING VICE CHAIR OF
9:05:56AM THE FLORIDA BAR STANDING COMMITTEE OF DIVERSITY AND
9:05:58AM INCLUSION AND HE WAS BORN IN JACKSONVILLE, RAISED HERE IN
9:06:02AM TAMPA, AND WITH HIS WIFE SARAH HAS TWO CHILDREN, JACK AND
9:06:05AM ELEANOR.
9:06:06AM SO IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PRAYER AND REMAIN
9:06:09AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:06:10AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:06:14AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:06:18AM HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL TODAY.
9:06:22AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY ABUNDANT BLESSINGS.
9:06:25AM THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF.
9:06:30AM THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL WORK AND
9:06:33AM FOR THE HONOR OF HAVING RESPONSIBILITIES.
9:06:37AM THANK YOU AS WELL FOR THE FREEDOM TO EMBRACE YOU OR THE
9:06:39AM FREEDOM TO REJECT YOU.
9:06:41AM THANK YOU FOR MOVING LOVING US IN YOUR BOUNDLESS AND
9:06:44AM GRACIOUS NATURE.
9:06:45AM IN THE SCRIPTURES YOU SAID THAT AND TO PEACE, ORDER AND
9:06:52AM JUSTICE.
9:06:53AM THEREFORE, I PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR, AND VARIOUS LEVELS OF CITY
9:06:56AM OFFICIALS, AND PARTICULARLY FOR THIS ASSEMBLY AND THIS
9:06:59AM ESTEEMED COUNCIL.
9:07:00AM I'M ASKING THAT YOU GRACIOUSLY GRANT THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN
9:07:04AM AND TAKE AN INTEREST IN ISSUES OF OUR TIMES, A SENSE OF
9:07:07AM WELFARE OF OUR PEOPLE, FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE
9:07:14AM ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY, EVEN WHEN WE HAVE
9:07:18AM DISAGREEMENTS.
9:07:20AM WE ASK FOR YOUR HAND IN BLESSING ON THIS MEETING, AND THE
9:07:23AM AGENDA SET BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
9:07:26AM IT IS IN YOUR MOST BLESSED NAME WE PRAY.
9:07:29AM AMEN.
9:07:30AM [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
9:07:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE MOVE OWN TO OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA, TO OUR
9:07:53AM CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION FOR
9:07:57AM OFFICERS OF THE MONTH.
9:07:59AM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:08:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THANK YOU FOR
9:08:20AM ALLOWING ME TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND
9:08:23AM IT IS AN HONOR TO GIVE THIS COMMENDATION TO A DESERVED
9:08:30AM OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:08:31AM IF I MAY START OUT, PLEASE.
9:08:35AM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYBODY AT
9:08:38AM HOME, WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT OUR OFFICERS DO EACH AND HE
9:08:41AM HAVE DAY.
9:08:42AM I ADVISE YOU, PLEASE, TO GO TO THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
9:08:48AM THERE YOU WILL FIND EXACTLY WHAT OUR OFFICERS DO IN THEIR
9:08:51AM DAILY LIVES, IN KEEPING US SAFE AND PROTECTING US.
9:08:55AM HAVING SAID THAT, WE ARE HERE TO HONOR ONE OF TAMPA'S
9:08:59AM FINEST.
9:09:00AM THERE ARE OVER 900 STAFF IN OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
9:09:05AM I WISH WE CON HONOR ALL OF THEM.
9:09:07AM HOWEVER, WE CAN ONLY DO ONE AT A TIME.
9:09:09AM OFFICER DONNELLY IS WORTHY OF THIS, AND I CANNOT EXPRESS MY
9:09:14AM THANKS TO HER AND HER OTHER OFFICERS FOR WHAT THEY DO.
9:09:19AM AND NOW I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF DUGAN.
9:09:22AM CHIEF, WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT Y THIS OFFICER IS
9:09:25AM WORTHY OF THIS AWARD?
9:09:27AM >> BRIAN DUGAN, CHIEF OF POLICE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:09:31AM THIS MORNING FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH, OFFICER BOBBIE
9:09:34AM DONNELLY, SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS THAT SHE'S DOING NOT ONLY
9:09:38AM WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT WHICH SHE DOES OUT THERE IN THE
9:09:40AM COMMUNITY.
9:09:40AM I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY POLICING AND IT
9:09:44AM COMES IN VARIOUS ASPECTS OF WHAT WE DO.
9:09:47AM SHE HAS BEEN EMPLOYED WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT SINCE
9:09:50AM 2013.
9:09:51AM SHE TRANSFERRED TO THE PERSONNEL UNIT BACK IN AUGUST OF 2018
9:09:55AM AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
9:09:57AM SHE HAS ATTENDED 22 JOB FAIRS INCLUDING RECRUITING AT LOCAL
9:10:02AM POLICE ACADEMY, HIGH SCHOOLS, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
9:10:06AM AND YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF OUR RECRUITMENT PROCESS, AND THAT
9:10:09AM WE HAVE A DIVERSE WORK GROUP, THAT WE CAN REALLY RELATE TO
9:10:12AM OUR COMMUNITY.
9:10:13AM HER PASSION FOR THE JOB AND ENTHUSIASM ARE CONTAGIOUS.
9:10:16AM SHE RECEIVED A COMMENDATION FROM AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL
9:10:21AM WHO WANTED TO EXPRESS HIS GRATITUDE TO BOBBIE FOR SPEAKING
9:10:25AM TO HIS STUDENTS ONE OF WHICH IS NOW A TAMPA POLICE
9:10:27AM DEPARTMENT DISPATCHER DUE TO BOBBIE'S EFFORTS.
9:10:31AM IN ADDITION TO RECRUITING EXTERNALLY, BOBBIE RESPONDS TO
9:10:34AM ONLINE QUESTIONS, ALSO ALONG WITH PHONE CALLS AND WALK-INS.
9:10:39AM SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING ALL OF OUR CIVILIAN AND
9:10:43AM POLICE EMPLOYEES AND RESERVE OFFICER APPLICANTS.
9:10:46AM HER THOROUGHNESS AND PROFESSIONALISM ARE EXEMPLARY.
9:10:49AM BOBBIE HAS SHOWN TRUE LEADERSHIP TRAITS, ALWAYS SHOWS
9:10:54AM INITIATIVE BY INDEPENDENTLY SEEKING OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN.
9:10:58AM SHE'S COMPLETED TO ASSIST THE TRAINING UNIT WHEN NECESSARY.
9:11:03AM IF SHE FEELS AND AREA NEEDS IMPROVEMENT SHE IMMEDIATELY
9:11:06AM BEGINS ON WAYS TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS.
9:11:08AM RECENTLY SHE NOTICED THAT RECRUITING BROCHURES LOOKED
9:11:11AM OUTDATED.
9:11:12AM SHE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE TO RE-CREATE
9:11:15AM ALL THE DEPARTMENT'S RECRUITMENT BROCHURES INCLUDING
9:11:18AM EXPLORERS AND COMMUNICATIONS.
9:11:20AM BOBBIE HAS DEVELOPED A REPUTATION AS A TEAM PLAYER, AND IS
9:11:25AM ALWAYS WILLING TO GO BEYOND HER JOB DESCRIPTION TO HELP WITH
9:11:28AM MUCH ANY ADDITIONAL TASK THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
9:11:30AM SHE IS A MENTOR WITH BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS OF TAMPA
9:11:33AM BAY AND MAKES IT A PRIORITY TO SPEND TIME.
9:11:37AM SHE ALWAYS GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND.
9:11:39AM SHE DOES A VERY GOOD JOB.
9:11:40AM I INTERACT WITH HER A LOT WITH PERSONNEL AND RECRUITING.
9:11:44AM AND SHE ALWAYS HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR AND LIKES TO KEEP ME IN
9:11:47AM CHECK AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT AND HER POSITIVE
9:11:50AM ATTITUDE CERTAINLY IS CON TABLES.
9:11:52AM IN RECOGNITION OF HER HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, OFFICER
9:11:55AM BOBBIE DONNELLY HAS BEEN SELECTED AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH
9:11:58AM FOR MAY OF 2019.
9:12:00AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:12:00AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:12:01AM >> FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT YOU THIS
9:12:10AM COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
9:12:13AM CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
9:12:14AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:12:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:12:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:12:30AM PRESIDENT OF TAMPA PBA DARLA PORTMAN. SECRETARY GENE HAINES
9:12:36AM HERE.
9:12:37AM I HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH BOBBIE.
9:12:41AM EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT HER IS SPOT ON.
9:12:43AM >> JIM CURIE, BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:13:02AM CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW POSITION, COUNCIL.
9:13:05AM WE SEE A LOT OF OFFICERS COME THROUGH OUR DEALERSHIP, BUT OF
9:13:08AM COURSE THIS TIME RAISE TO THE TOP.
9:13:12AM ON BEHALF OF CURRIE AND MYSELF WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A
9:13:16AM BRAND NEW CAR.
9:13:16AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:13:20AM THANK YOU.
9:13:20AM >> CHIEF, OFFICERS, TOM ROWAN, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:13:28AM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING
9:13:32AM SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:13:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:13:36AM >> STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:13:43AM CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
9:13:45AM ON BEHALF OF STEP'S AND TODD STEPS, A NIGHT OUT IN YOUR
9:13:53AM COMPANY -- OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE.
9:13:57AM TAKE THE NIGHT OFF AND ENJOY IT.
9:13:59AM >> TAMPA THEATRE.
9:14:04AM OFFICER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE IN OUR
9:14:06AM COMMUNITY.
9:14:06AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:14:07AM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, I AM HONORED TO GIVE YOU CANDY
9:14:10AM AND A GIFT.
9:14:14AM >> THANK YOU.
9:14:15AM >> TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
9:14:22AM OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR SERVICE TO
9:14:25AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:14:28AM A GIFT CARD TO APPLEBEES FOR ONE NIGHT OUT AND A COUPLE OF
9:14:34AM GOODIES AS WELL.
9:14:35AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:14:35AM >> THANK YOU.
9:14:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:14:40AM WELCOME NEW MEMBERS.
9:14:41AM THANKS FOR HAVING US.
9:14:47AM OUR JOB IN THE COMMUNITY IS TO BUILD A BRIDGE.
9:14:50AM AND YOU ARE DOING THAT EXACTLY.
9:14:54AM AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
9:14:56AM GOING OVER YOUR ENTIRE BIO, IT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE
9:15:00AM DAY.
9:15:00AM WE ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY MAKING LIVES AND MAKING A
9:15:05AM HUGE IMPACT.
9:15:06AM IT'S PHENOMENAL.
9:15:07AM AND HERE IS A LITTLE GIFT.
9:15:09AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:15:10AM >> MICHAEL KILGORE, COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP.
9:15:20AM ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY A $100 GIFT CARD.
9:15:24AM YOU CAN TAKE THE LIMO.
9:15:25AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:15:27AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF
9:15:36AM DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU.
9:15:39AM ONE OF THEM IS THE RESTAURANT COURTNEY CAMPBELL, GOING TO
9:15:46AM PROVIDE YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY FOR DINNER.
9:15:48AM ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP, BREAKFAST, LUNCH
9:15:53AM OR DINNER ON SOUTH HOWARD.
9:15:56AM CHRISTY'S PORTRAIT PROVIDES YOU WITH A GIFT PACKAGE TO HAVE
9:16:00AM YOUR PORTRAITS DONE.
9:16:02AM THE YMCA IF YOU NEED THAT.
9:16:05AM YOU GET A PASS TO THE Y.
9:16:07AM AND YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BUSINESS TO. I KNOW EVERY MONTH THIS
9:16:12AM COMES OUT, ALL THE OTHER OFFICERS WANT TO GO EAT AT YUMMY.
9:16:16AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:16:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:16:21AM THANK YOU.
9:16:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:16:32AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL, THE
9:16:36AM STAFF, EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE TODAY FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
9:16:40AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT BACK WHENEVER I GOT HIRED AS A NEW
9:16:44AM POLICE OFFICER, I DID SO FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE, THAT
9:16:54AM RECRUITERS, WHEN YOU ARE THAT YOUNG, DO IT FOR FREE, THAT
9:16:58AM WAS ME.
9:17:00AM SO THE THOUGHT OF BEING RECOGNIZED FOR ANYTHING NEVER
9:17:03AM CROSSED MY MIND.
9:17:05AM IT WAS NEVER AN EXPECTATION AT ALL.
9:17:09AM THE FACT THAT I AM RECOGNIZED FOR THIS MAKES ME FEEL
9:17:13AM COMPLETELY BEYOND HUMBLED AND HONORED TO BE HERE AND TO BE
9:17:17AM RECOGNIZED.
9:17:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:17:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
9:17:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, AS A PERSON WHO HAS STOOD BEFORE
9:17:32AM COUNCIL BEFORE AND RECEIVED OFFICER OF THE MONTH A COUPLE OF
9:17:36AM TIMES, BACK IN MY DAY, TO GIVE YOU A NICE WATCH WITH A TPD
9:17:41AM EMBLEM ON IT, NOW I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT I CAN STAND UP HERE.
9:17:54AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
9:17:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
9:17:58AM YES, SIR.
9:17:58AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:18:00AM AS A MARKETING PERSON I CAN APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR
9:18:02AM YOUR HARD WORK ON TAKING THE INITIATIVE ON THAT.
9:18:04AM AND BESIDES YOUR OWN SERVICE, IT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE TRAINING
9:18:09AM GREAT PEOPLE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
9:18:10AM SO THANK YOU.
9:18:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND I JOIN IN JUST IN THANKING YOU FOR YOUR
9:18:15AM SERVICE.
9:18:15AM I SAW THAT YOU ALSO WERE IN THE U.S. ARMY SO YOU HAVE A REAL
9:18:19AM LIFE OF SERVICE DEDICATED TO THE SAME PURPOSE WHICH IS
9:18:22AM PROTECTING US FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD DO US WRONG.
9:18:24AM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:18:26AM GOD BLESS YOU.
9:18:26AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:18:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:18:50AM WE NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 2 ON THE CEREMONIAL.
9:18:53AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR A COMMENDATION.
9:18:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
9:19:20AM TODAY IS A SPECIAL DAY NOT ONLY FOR MR. LEE HOFFMAN BUT FOR
9:19:23AM ALL THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS HE'S MADE IN 16
9:19:27AM YEARS.
9:19:28AM FIRST OF ALL, LEE HOFFMAN HAS WORKED FOR SIX MAYORS.
9:19:32AM AND THAT MEANS HE'S WORKED FOR ONE MAYOR MORE THAN I HAVE SO
9:19:37AM YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THAT.
9:19:40AM YOU DON'T LOOK ONE DAY OVER --
9:19:42AM >> 50.
9:19:43AM >> I WAS GOING TO SAY 40 BUT NOW I'LL SAY 50.
9:19:45AM IN FACT WE'LL BOTH SAY 50.
9:19:48AM NOT ONLY HAS HE DONE YEOMAN'S WORK, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
9:19:53AM RIVERWALK, YOU START ON ONE SIDE AND FIN FINISH ON THE OTHER
9:19:58AM SIDE, AND YOU WONDER HOW IT WAS PUT TOGETHER.
9:20:01AM WHO WORKED ON THIS AND HOP HAS DONE ALL OF THE BRAIN WORK OF
9:20:06AM PUTTING IT IN, MAKING IT HAPPEN.
9:20:08AM THE GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT IS THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON THAT
9:20:12AM WORKED ON THIS FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END.
9:20:15AM AND NOT TOO MANY CAN SAY THAT.
9:20:18AM AND I THINK THAT RIVERWALK NEED TO BE PAINTED.
9:20:29AM HE WAS IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AND EARNED THE RANK OF
9:20:32AM COLONEL.
9:20:33AM HE'S BEEN A DEDICATED EMPLOYEE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:20:35AM HE'S BEEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY, SERVING HIS COUNTRY FOR SO
9:20:39AM MANY YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE, AND IT OUR PLEASURE TO MAKE
9:20:42AM THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU, LEE, FOR THE OUTSTANDING WORK YOU
9:20:45AM HAVE DONE FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:20:48AM AND I REALLY WISH YOU WELL.
9:20:50AM I HEAR YOU ARE GOING BACK TO MY HOME IN ALABAMA.
9:20:54AM NOW YOU ARE GOING TO BE A TIDE?
9:20:57AM >> I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET.
9:20:58AM >> WELL, A LOT OF GATORS IN HERE.
9:21:01AM A LOT OF BULLS.
9:21:02AM AND A LOT OF SEMINOLES.
9:21:03AM SO BE CAREFUL.
9:21:05AM TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
9:21:06AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.
9:21:10AM ALSO, ALONG THOSE LINES, THE DEPARTMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT
9:21:18AM EVERYBODY WAS REALLY FAIR AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
9:21:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:30AM >> WELL, I AM VERY HONORED THAT YOU DO. THIS I CERTAINLY
9:21:33AM APPRECIATE.
9:21:34AM THAT AND IN 16 YEARS WITH THE CITY, IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING.
9:21:38AM AND ONE THING ABOUT THE RIVERWALK.
9:21:48AM IT WAS AN AMAZING PROJECT AND I AM THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT.
9:21:54AM THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT MADE THAT HAPPEN.
9:21:56AM THEY REALLY DID.
9:21:58AM AND THE CITY COUNCIL WAS A TRUE PART OF THAT.
9:22:01AM THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL THAT HAD TO
9:22:04AM BE PASSED MORE THAN ALL THE PIECES COMING TOGETHER AND I
9:22:08AM APPRECIATE ALL THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE SEEN HERE ON THE
9:22:11AM COUNCIL AND THE SUPPORT.
9:22:13AM IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL.
9:22:14AM AND I'M MOVING TO ALABAMA AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT TO BE
9:22:22AM WITH THE GRANDKIDS.
9:22:23AM BUT AS I LOOK BACK, IT'S KIND OF BITTERSWEET THAT NOW I HAVE
9:22:27AM TO LEAVE THIS FAMILY THAT I HAVE DEVELOPED OVER TIME, AND I
9:22:31AM HAVE REALLY COME TO LOVE THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH.
9:22:33AM AND THE ONE THING ABOUT THE CITY IS HAVE BEEN WE HAVE GOOD
9:22:36AM PEOPLE.
9:22:36AM WE REALLY HAVE GOOD PEOPLE.
9:22:38AM AND I AM REALLY GOING TO MISS ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE GOT TO
9:22:41AM WORK WITH AND WORK FOR, AND AGAIN I JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH
9:22:44AM FOR THE HONOR.
9:22:45AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:22:46AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:22:50AM ANYONE FROM COUNCIL?
9:23:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU.
9:23:06AM I REMEMBER YOUR NAME FROM WAY BACK WORKING ON THIS.
9:23:09AM AND FRIENDS LIKE STEVE ANDERSON, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE
9:23:14AM OVER THE YEARS WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH YOU.
9:23:16AM I REMEMBER YEARS AGO PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO
9:23:19AM THIS AND I THOUGHT YOUR CASE STUDY OR YOUR RESULTS ARE A
9:23:24AM LESSON IN PERSISTENCE.
9:23:25AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE AND HARD WORK TO GET WHAT IS
9:23:29AM ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.
9:23:31AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:23:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:39AM NEXT, LAST ITEM UNDER CEREMONIAL AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
9:23:44AM FOR MY FRIEND CRAIG GROSS TO PLEASE COME UP.
9:23:47AM MR. GROSS IS THE CHAPLAIN FOR THE FLORIDA GOLD STAR FATHERS
9:23:53AM AND HAS DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO HONORINGS HIS SON'S NAME,
9:23:58AM KILLED IN 2011 IN AFGHANISTAN WHEN AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICE
9:24:02AM CAUSED A MILITARY VEHICLE TO ROLL OVER.
9:24:04AM CORPORAL GROSS NOW RESTS ETERNALLY IN ARLINGTON SECTION 60.
9:24:09AM CRAIG IS A LONG TIME INVOLVED MAN IN LOCAL CIVIC AFFAIRS IN
9:24:13AM THE OLDSMAR AREA AS WELL AS NUMEROUS PATRIOTIC AND MILITARY
9:24:17AM ENDEAVORS.
9:24:18AM TO LIST THE NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS WE WOULD GO OVERTIME.
9:24:25AM HIS JOURNEY HAS TAKEN HIM WITH HIS WONDERFUL WIFE TONY FROM
9:24:28AM TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TO WELCOME HOME TROOPS OF THE
9:24:31AM USO THROUGH CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY PARTIES WITH THE VIETNAM
9:24:35AM VETERANS OF AMERICA, TO COMMITTEE MEETINGS, TO MEETING WITH
9:24:39AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AT THE WHITE HOUSE, AND
9:24:41AM ALSO TO HIS WONDERFUL WORK, FRANKIE'S PATRIOT BARBECUE,
9:24:47AM NAMED AFTER YOUR LATE SON FRANK.
9:24:49AM IT A REAL HONOR TO WELCOME YOU HERE.
9:24:52AM MR. GROSS IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT MEMORIAL DAY AND WHAT IT
9:24:55AM MEANS TO HIM.
9:24:55AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:24:56AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
9:24:58AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SHOW EVERYBODY MY SON'S PICTURE,
9:25:03AM CORPORAL ROBERT FRANK GROSS.
9:25:05AM I CONSIDER MY SON TO BE KIND OF LIKE THE POSTER CHILD OF
9:25:11AM MEMORIAL DAY, AT LEAST FOR OUR FAMILY.
9:25:14AM MY WIFE AND I BOTH GREW UP IN MILITARY FAMILIES.
9:25:17AM MY DAD DID 31 YEARS IN THE ARMY, AND ARMY RESERVE, AND HER
9:25:21AM DAD DID IT 29 YEARS IN THE NAVY.
9:25:23AM BOTH OF THEM WERE DISTINGUISHED OFFICERS AND HIGHLY
9:25:27AM DECORATED.
9:25:29AM SO MY SON ASPIRED TO THAT, HIS MENTORS, LET'S SAY, HIS
9:25:36AM GRANDFATHERS, AND WHILE FRANKIE WAS GROWING UP HE PLAYED
9:25:41AM WITH HIS GI ACTION FIGURES.
9:25:47AM SO MY WIFE AND I ALWAYS EXPECTED MEMORIAL DAY.
9:25:54AM WE NEVER KNEW HOW MUCH PAIN THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH
9:26:02AM MEMORIAL DAY.
9:26:08AM I KIND OF TWINGE EVERY TIME I SEE A COMMERCIAL ON TV ABOUT
9:26:11AM CELEBRATING MEMORIAL DAY BY BUYING A NEW MATTRESS OR NEW
9:26:16AM CAR.
9:26:17AM THAT CERTAINLY IS NOT WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
9:26:20AM FOR US, AND I THINK MANY AMERICANS, MEMORIAL DAY IS EXACTLY
9:26:25AM WHAT IT IS.
9:26:26AM IT'S A DAY WHERE WE TAKE PAUSE, AND WE THINK ABOUT THOSE WHO
9:26:31AM SACRIFICED AND GAVE THE FULL MEASURE FOR OUR COUNTRY,
9:26:35AM WHETHER IT'S FROM THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, WHETHER IT IS TO
9:26:42AM THE DAY THE CIVIL WAR STARTED IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA,
9:26:46AM OR WHETHER IT IS VIETNAM OR IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN.
9:26:52AM PEOPLE ARE GETTING IT.
9:26:55AM BACK WHEN I JOINED THE SERVICE DURING THE VIETNAM WAR, IF
9:26:59AM YOU REMEMBER, SOLDIERS AND SAILORS AND AIRMEN AND MARINES
9:27:04AM WERE BASICALLY SPIT ON.
9:27:08AM THAT HAS CHANGED.
9:27:09AM I WAS RECENTLY IN BRANSON, MISSOURI WHERE I HAD THE
9:27:13AM PRIVILEGE OF SINGING ON STAGE WITH TONY ORLANDO, WHICH WAS
9:27:16AM KIND OF COOL, AND I HAD MY ARMY HAT, AND EVER WRITE WENT,
9:27:25AM EVERYWHERE I WENT, PEOPLE WOULD STOP ON THE STREET AND SAY
9:27:28AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:27:30AM AND NOW, WHENEVER WE GO TO EVENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO
9:27:39AM MEMORIAL DAY OR TO HONORING OUR SON, MY WIFE AND I ARE
9:27:44AM OVERWHELMED TO SEE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE -- AND
9:27:51AM THIS INCLUDES YOUNG PEOPLE.
9:27:53AM WE ARE VERY INVOLVED WITH THE JUNIOR ROTC THROUGH THE
9:27:56AM ASSOCIATION OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY.
9:27:59AM AND YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED THIS YEAR HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF
9:28:04AM YOUNG PEOPLE WE HAVE MET AT DIFFERENT EVENTS WHO REALLY GET
9:28:11AM WHAT MEMORIAL DAY IS ALL ABOUT.
9:28:15AM AND THERE IS A DISTINCTION.
9:28:17AM THERE'S A HUGE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS
9:28:20AM DAY.
9:28:21AM AND THE THING THAT I REALLY TRY TO IMPRESS UPON PEOPLE IS
9:28:28AM IT'S NOT HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY.
9:28:32AM IT'S "LET'S THANK THOSE WHO SACRIFICED FOR OUR COUNTRY,
9:28:39AM LET'S REMEMBER THEM, LET'S HONOR THEM."
9:28:43AM AND THE PICNICS ARE GREAT.
9:28:44AM THE SALES ARE GREAT.
9:28:46AM ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ARE REALLY WONDERFUL.
9:28:48AM BUT LET'S NOT FORGET WHAT IT IS REALLY ALL ABOUT.
9:28:52AM THERE ARE SOLDIERS WHO HAVE BEEN BURIED LITERALLY ACROSS THE
9:29:00AM GLOBE FOR OUR FREEDOMS SO WE CAN SIT HERE IN AN OPEN FORUM
9:29:04AM AND BASICALLY SAY WHAT WE WANT TO SAY AND DO WHAT WE WANT TO
9:29:08AM DO AND GO WHERE WE WANT TO GO, BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS.
9:29:12AM THAT HAVE SACRIFICED, GIVEN THE FULL MEASURE FOR OUR
9:29:16AM COUNTRY.
9:29:17AM AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO CITY
9:29:22AM COUNCIL FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS MORNING.
9:29:24AM AND I WANT TO SAY A BIG BOOHA TO FRANK WHO GAVE THE FULL
9:29:34AM MEASURE FOR OUR COUNTRY.
9:29:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:29:37AM AND I BROUGHT A PRESENT FOR YOU THAT I GUESS I WILL PASS TO
9:29:43AM YOU.
9:29:48AM [OFF MICROPHONE] I HAVE KNOWN CRAIG QUITE A FEW YEARS.
9:29:52AM AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A PRESIDENT WHO WAS A GOLD STAR FATHER.
9:29:58AM AND THAT'S THEODORE ROOSEVELT WHOSE SON CLINTON DIED IN 1918
9:30:07AM IN WORLD WAR I, AND MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT, AND HE TOOK A
9:30:13AM BULLET IN 19123, BUT HIS SON DIED IN COMBAT.
9:30:17AM BROKE HIS HEART.
9:30:21AM AND SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT -- A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID ONE OF THE
9:30:27AM THINGS THAT TOOK AWAY HIS FIGHTING SPIRIT WAS HIS SON DIED
9:30:30AM IN COMBAT.
9:30:31AM SO I TOOK THIS PICTURE HERE OF CLINTON ROOSEVELT NEXT TO HIS
9:30:34AM FATHER.
9:30:35AM THIS IS IN 1918 AND I BELIEVE HE'S ACTUALLY WEARING A BLUE
9:30:45AM STAR.
9:30:45AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:30:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR
9:30:58AM SACRIFICE AND YOUR SON'S SACRIFICE.
9:31:01AM IT'S NOT JUST MONDAY IS MEMORIAL DAY.
9:31:03AM EVERY DAY IS MEMORIAL DAY I.MYSELF DON'T SPEND IT AT
9:31:06AM BARBECUES AT THE BEACH.
9:31:08AM THERE IS NO CELEBRATION.
9:31:09AM IT'S A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE.
9:31:10AM JUST AS EVERY DAY SHOULD BE.
9:31:12AM THIS IS A NATIONAL MOURNING.
9:31:14AM YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT INSPIRED COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH
9:31:21AM HIS LOVE FOR VIETNAM VETERANS AND VETERANS IN GENERAL BUT
9:31:24AM LAST YEAR I STARTED VISITING LOCAL CEMETERIES, SPECIFICALLY
9:31:28AM WHERE MY GRANDFATHER IS AT, AND I STARTED NOTING OR LOOKING
9:31:31AM FOR VIETNAM SOLDIERS THAT WERE KILLED.
9:31:33AM WHY VIETNAM?
9:31:34AM BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
9:31:36AM BACK THEN, SOLDIERS WERE COMING BACK AND BEING SPIT ON, BABY
9:31:40AM KILLERS, ON AND ON, AND THESE SOLDIERS GAVE ALL FOR THEIR
9:31:45AM COUNTRY.
9:31:46AM THEY NEVER GOT THAT HONOR AND REMEMBRANCE AND RESPECT THAT
9:31:49AM THEY DESERVED AFTER GIVING EVERYTHING.
9:31:51AM SO I GO TO THEIR GRAVES, AND I LEAVE LITTLE FLAGS SOMETIMES,
9:31:55AM AND I CLEAN THEM, AND I THINK 15 YEARS HAS PASSED SINCE THE
9:32:00AM TET OFFENSIVE AND VIETNAM, AND YOU GO TO THESE GRAVES, AND
9:32:06AM THERE'S NO FLOWERS, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THEY ARE OVERGROWN,
9:32:10AM BUT STOP BY AND CLEAN IT, LEAVE A FLAG, LEAVE A FLOWER,
9:32:16AM SOMETHING TO KNOW THAT 50 YEARS LATER PEOPLE ARE STILL
9:32:18AM REMEMBERING, THANKING AND HONORING WHAT MEMORIAL DAY IS.
9:32:23AM MEMORIAL DAY IS THE SACRIFICE AND THE PAIN AND EVERYTHING
9:32:26AM THAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH.
9:32:27AM WE WILL NEVER KNOW.
9:32:28AM BUT WE ARE GRATEFUL AS A NATION, AS A COUNCIL.
9:32:36AM ONE OF MY BIGGEST REGRETS OF NOT SERVING, IN MY SENIOR YEAR
9:32:41AM IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND I HAD FRIENDS GOING TO THE ARMY, GOING
9:32:45AM TO THE MARINES, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A GREATER HONOR OR
9:32:48AM LEVEL OF SERVICE THAN THAT OF SERVING YOUR COUNTRY.
9:32:51AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:32:52AM IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY.
9:32:55AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO THANK YOU AND OUR SERVICE
9:33:07AM PERSONNEL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY, MORE
9:33:10AM ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY MEMBERS FOR THE SAMRYIFIES THEY HAVE
9:33:13AM MADE NOT ONLY DURING BUT AFTER THE TERM OF SERVICE.
9:33:17AM I THINK GENERAL PATTON SAID IT BEST, MEMORIAL DAY, WE SHOULD
9:33:20AM NOT MOURN THE LOSS BUT PRAISE THEM FOR LIVING.
9:33:25AM THANK YOU.
9:33:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A REMINDER.
9:33:37AM THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:33:39AM YOU SHOWED YOUR SON'S PICTURE TO EVERYONE BEHIND BUT I DON'T
9:33:42AM THINK EVERYONE ON CAMERA COULD SEE.
9:33:44AM IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO SEE IT FOR THE FOLKS OUT TO
9:33:47AM REMEMBER HIM.
9:33:48AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:33:50AM >> AND ALSO REMAINED ALL THE FOLKS -- [OFF MICROPHONE] THE
9:34:02AM MEMORIAL PARK, A COMMEMORATION ON MONDAY HERE AT THE
9:34:07AM AMERICAN LEGION ON WEST KENNEDY THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER
9:34:12AM ONE.
9:34:12AM JUST IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO COME.
9:34:14AM SO THANK YOU.
9:34:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:34:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:34:29AM ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
9:34:32AM IT'S NOT THE WORKSHOP BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
9:34:34AM TO SPEAK AT THE WORKSHOP AS WELL.
9:34:36AM PLEASE APPROACH THE FRONT AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
9:34:38AM RECORD.
9:34:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:34:40AM CONNIE BURTON, NAACP HOUSING CHAIR.
9:34:46AM WHEN I COME, I MAKE A POINT OF STANDING FOR THE PRAYER AND
9:34:52AM SITTING WHEN THE PLEDGE IS RECITED BECAUSE I HAVE YET TO
9:34:57AM EXPERIENCE WHAT I FEEL JUSTICE SHOULD LOOK LIKE HERE IN
9:35:02AM AMERICA FOR MY COMMUNITY.
9:35:04AM THE COMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE HEARTFELT.
9:35:10AM WHEN I AM THINKING ABOUT A RECENT ARTICLE THAT WAS IN THE
9:35:12AM PAPER THAT TALKED ABOUT THE CHIEF HAVING TO INVESTIGATE 6,
9:35:26AM 3, AND 1 WAS COMING IN.
9:35:28AM AND AFTER CHIEF IN HIS INVESTIGATION, THE THREE OFFICERS,
9:35:33AM HAD TO BE TERMINATED, AND THE CRIMES THAT THEY COMMIT
9:35:36AM AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR.
9:35:41AM AND I WONDER, DID THESE THREE OFFICERS JUST LEARN THAT BAD
9:35:46AM BEHAVIOR?
9:35:47AM BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL YOU, SINCE THE 1970
9:35:53AM , THE WAR ON DRUGS HAS BEEN REAL AS RELATES TO THE AFRICAN
9:35:56AM COMMUNITY.
9:35:59AM IT WAS AGAINST THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE SEEN BURYING PEOPLE
9:36:05AM IN THE CEMETERY, OF HAVING FATHERS, GRANDFATHERS, UNCLES,
9:36:10AM WHOEVER IS STUCK IN THESE PRISONS.
9:36:13AM AND WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THIS.
9:36:16AM A SECOND ISSUE THIS MORNING, I STILL AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE
9:36:23AM $100 MILLION THAT WAS RECENTLY -- THAT JEFF VINIK RECEIVED
9:36:32AM IN REDEVELOPMENT.
9:36:33AM OUR COMMUNITY WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO KNOW, WAS IT A SPECIAL
9:36:38AM GRANT?
9:36:38AM WHAT IS IT THAT DISTRICT 5 EAST TAMPA COULD DO TO GARNISH
9:36:42AM THAT TYPE OF GRANT SO WE CAN TRANSFORM OUR COMMUNITY?
9:36:45AM AND HOW CAN WE GET THE INFORMATION?
9:36:48AM DO WE COME TO YOU AND ASK YOU PHYSICALLY TO INVESTIGATE FOR
9:36:53AM US OR DO WE FOLLOW THE NEW MAN DATES THAT THE MAYOR HAS
9:36:56AM GIVEN YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO JUMP FIVE HOOPS BEFORE YOU CAN
9:37:01AM ANSWER THE CRIES OF THE COMMUNITY?
9:37:03AM WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE
9:37:12AM WHEN WE CONTINUE TO LAY OUT SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN HAVE
9:37:17AM AN ECONOMIC UPLIFT AND WE CAN TRANSFORM OUR COMMUNITY TO?
9:37:21AM WE WANT TO SEE REAL PROGRESS IN DISTRICT 5.
9:37:25AM WE DON'T PLAN ON WAITING TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE
9:37:30AM TO BECOME TALKING POINTS.
9:37:32AM WE WANT TO SEE IMMEDIATE ACTION SO OUR CHILDREN CAN HAVE A
9:37:35AM FUTURE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP ON WITH THE SAME ISSUES
9:37:40AM EVERY WEEK.
9:37:41AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:37:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:37:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOKED AT THAT ARTICLE.
9:37:57AM THAT WAS A LOT OF MONEY
9:38:05AM THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A TRANSPARENT PLACE FOR THE
9:38:07AM PUBLIC.
9:38:07AM YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT,
9:38:17AM ENGAGE IN THAT KIND OF MONEY OURSELVES.
9:38:19AM SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT YOUR OFFICE, AND I WILL ALSO
9:38:24AM MAKE A CALL TO INQUIRE ABOUT THAT.
9:38:27AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN.
9:38:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:38:31AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:38:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:38:40AM ROD HATCH. 1013 EAST HARRISON STREET.
9:38:47AM I FIRST CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THIS PAST JANUARY DUE TO A
9:38:52AM 640 SQUARE FOOT UNPERMITTED STRUCTURE BUILT BY MY NEIGHBOR
9:38:57AM 25 FEET AWAY FROM MY BACK DOOR, 5 FEET AWAY FROM MY POOL.
9:39:01AM ANOTHER NEIGHBOR AND MYSELF SPOKE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER
9:39:05AM EAST ROBINSON STREET ABOUT OUR CONCERNS MULTIPLE TIMES ONLY
9:39:09AM TO BE TOLD HE'S GOING TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS ON HIS
9:39:11AM PROPERTY.
9:39:12AM I EVEN OFFERED TO HELP HIM RELOCATE THE RAMP TO THE OTHER
9:39:15AM SIDE OF HIS YARD, AND HE SAID HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE IT FROM
9:39:19AM HIS BEDROOM.
9:39:20AM THIS STRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT AND NO REGARD TO
9:39:23AM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES OR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
9:39:26AM ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
9:39:28AM THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITH WHAT THIS NEIGHBOR DID AS SOUND
9:39:33AM ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS IMPOSED PLYWOOD, BUT MOSTLY OUT OF
9:39:39AM PLYWOOD WITH UNENCLOSED ENDS WHICH MADE THE STRUCTURE
9:39:44AM AFTERNOON AMPLIFIER.
9:39:45AM I HAVE RECORDED DECIBEL LEVELS AS HIGH AS 116, AND 74 FROM
9:39:51AM MY HOUSE.
9:39:54AM EVIDENCE TO CALL THE POLICE NUMEROUS TIMES FOR NOISE
9:39:57AM VIOLATIONS DEEMING THE STRUCTURE A NUISANCE.
9:40:02AM THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT ON A LOT WHICH HAD AN ELEVATION 3
9:40:06AM FEET HIGHER THAN OUR PROPERTY AND WAS SITUATED ON TOP OF
9:40:08AM THE RETAINING WALL LESS AN FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
9:40:14AM WHEN HE AND HIS FRIENDS USE THIS RAMP THEY LOOK STRAIGHT
9:40:20AM DOWN AT US, LOOKING AT OUR WINDOWS, EVEN SITTING ON OUR
9:40:26AM FENCE.
9:40:27AM WE HAD TO IMPROVE A PRIVACY FENCE.
9:40:32AM WE HAVE MORE THAN A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN OUR
9:40:35AM BACKYARD.
9:40:36AM YET WE HAVE NONE.
9:40:38AM ADDITIONALLY, DUE TO THE WATER RUNOFF FROM THE STRUCTURE,
9:40:42AM THE RETAINING WALL IS NOW LEANING UP AGAINST OUR PRIVACY
9:40:45AM WALL MAKING IT LEAN.
9:40:47AM IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CITY THAT THE RETAINING
9:40:51AM WALL IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH OF IN A CIVIL ACTION.
9:40:55AM I CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME ASKING FOR
9:40:58AM SPECIFIC ORDINANCE AND REGULATIONS IN REGARD TO THESE
9:41:03AM STRUCTURES.
9:41:04AM I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO ENJOY THEIR HOBBIES IN THE
9:41:09AM PRIVACY OF THEIR BACKYARD.
9:41:11AM THIS NOT ONLY AFFECTS OUR PRIVACY AND ABILITY TO ENJOY THE
9:41:16AM TRANQUILITY OF OUR HOME BUT THE MARKETABILITY OF OUR HOME.
9:41:19AM ALTHOUGH THE RAMP WAS PARTIALLY DISMANTLED THANKS TO CODE
9:41:24AM ENFORCEMENT, ALL RAIN WATER INTO HIS RETAINING WALL AND MY
9:41:30AM PROPERTY.
9:41:31AM THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOW RECEIVED A TEMPORARY PERMIT TO
9:41:33AM REBUILD THE STRUCTURE BASED ON A FAULTY ENGINEERING REPORT
9:41:37AM WHICH IS LEGALLY SUFFICIENT FOR INVESTIGATION BY THE FLORIDA
9:41:43AM BOARD OF ENGINEERS.
9:41:44AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:41:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER MINUTE.
9:41:50AM >> THANK YOU.
9:41:52AM HOWEVER, INTO A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
9:41:54AM ALL DAMAGE OF THE STRUCTURE HAS CREATED TO OUR PROPERTY,
9:41:57AM CREATES OVER LEGAL LIMITS, ALL THE PRIVACY EXPERIENCED CAN
9:42:02AM NOW BE BUILT AGAIN.
9:42:03AM NOT ONLY THREE TO FIVE FEET FURTHER FROM THE PREVIOUS
9:42:05AM LOCATION.
9:42:06AM TODAY I COME BEFORE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL ASKING AGAIN FOR
9:42:10AM SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT ADDRESS THESE QUESTIONS.
9:42:13AM ADDITIONALLY I'M ASKING AGAIN FOR A PERMIT DUE SO THAT NEW
9:42:18AM REGULATIONS CAN BE ESTABLISHED.
9:42:21AM WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE BUT NOT FOR
9:42:24AM STANDING STRUCTURES.
9:42:25AM A FEW SIMPLE ORDINANCES, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, 100 FEET
9:42:29AM MINIMUM SETBACK FROM AN OCCUPIED STRUCTURE, CONSTRUCTION
9:42:33AM REQUIREMENT, AND SO ON.
9:42:38AM TAMPA HAS SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON SKATE PARKS
9:42:41AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY YET FAIL TO PROTECT OWNERS FROM
9:42:44AM POTENTIAL NUISANCES FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS.
9:42:49AM IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
9:42:52AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:42:52AM [BELL SOUNDS]
9:42:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:42:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW THESE FOLKS AS WELL, AND THEIR
9:42:59AM SITUATION WELL, AND THIS IS RIDICULOUS WHAT THEY HAVE TO PUT
9:43:05AM UP WITH.
9:43:08AM THEY SIT ON THE WALL.
9:43:09AM THEY LOOK INTO YOUR BACKYARD.
9:43:12AM THEN THE RAIN WATER.
9:43:13AM HAVE YOU HAD ANY RESPONSE FROM MR. SNELLING OR HIS OFFICE OR
9:43:16AM ANYBODY IN THE CITY REGARDING THIS?
9:43:19AM >> I HAVE.
9:43:24AM NOTHING HAS GOTTEN DONE.
9:43:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE MR. SNELLING IN THE AUDIENCE,
9:43:29AM COULD WE ASK HIM TO COME UP REAL QUICK?
9:43:32AM OR THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:43:35AM MR. SHELBY, ANY ISSUE WITH THAT?
9:43:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
9:43:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW HE WAS HERE PROPOSING AN
9:43:42AM ORDINANCE OR MAKING CHANGES.
9:43:48AM SKATE STRUCTURES ARE BEING APPROVED.
9:43:49AM THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE?
9:43:51AM >>THOM SNELLING: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
9:43:54AM THERE ARE SEVERAL SKATE STRUCTURES.
9:43:56AM UNLIKE THIS ONE WITH MR. aND MRS. HOBBS NEXT DOOR TO THEM,
9:44:03AM THEY HAVE GONE UP THERE EXTENSIVE REVIEW, SETBACKS.
9:44:08AM THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE OTHER SKATE STRUCTURES, WE HAVEN'T
9:44:14AM HEARD FROM THEM, IN THE ESSENCE WHAT YOU HAVE IS A BAD
9:44:17AM NEIGHBOR.
9:44:19AM HE HAS BEEN VERY DISREGARDING, TRIED TO CONTACT HIM, AND THE
9:44:27AM NEIGHBORHOOD DUG IN AND BASICALLY HAS SAID LEAVE ME ALONE, I
9:44:33AM AM GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT TO DO, ET CETERA.
9:44:35AM THE RETAINING WALL ISSUE IS STARTING TO FALL, AND IN TERMS
9:44:40AM OF THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THAT RETAINING WALL, AS IT
9:44:44AM STARTS TO BE INSPECTED, DETERMINE THAT THE PLANS BE TURNED
9:44:50AM IN SO THE WATER GOING TO THE FRONT OF HIS PROPERTY AS PER
9:44:53AM CODE.
9:44:54AM WHEN WE GO OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND WE DETERMINED THAT
9:44:57AM IT'S NOT, AND THE WATER COMING OFF THE STRUCTURE AND INTO
9:45:01AM THE WALL, AND CAUSING IT TO LEAN INTO HIS FENCE, THEN WE'LL
9:45:06AM ISSUE A CITATION OR AN INSPECTION AND BUILD IT ACCORDING TO
9:45:12AM WHAT IT WAS APPROVED FOR AND YOU HAVE TO RECTIFY THAT.
9:45:15AM THEY DO HAVE AN ACTIVE CODE CASE ON THE WALL, BUT HE NEED TO
9:45:20AM FIX IT.
9:45:22AM IN TERMS OF THIS STRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITHOUT PERMITS.
9:45:32AM WE REVIEWED IT AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS HOW WE REVIEWED
9:45:36AM ALL THE OTHERS.
9:45:37AM HAS TO BE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, SETBACKS AT MINIMUM 3 FEET
9:45:42AM FROM THE REAR AND SIDE YARDS.
9:45:46AM SO WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE COULD FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
9:45:49AM WE DID APPLY FOR A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE.
9:46:02AM WE'LL REVIEW.
9:46:03AM IN TERMS OF THE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS, I AM NOT AN ENGINEER.
9:46:06AM I CAN'T REALLY READ, YOU KNOW, THE CALCULUS THAT GOES INTO
9:46:13AM SOME OF THESE THINGS.
9:46:14AM BUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID THIS REVIEW IS AN ENGINEER, AND
9:46:17AM HE FOUND THAT THE REPORT WAS AN ENGINEERED DRAWING THAT WE
9:46:20AM ACCEPTED, SO IF THERE'S A CHALLENGE TO THAT, IT HAS BEEN
9:46:26AM SUBMITTED TO THE STATE, TO BE INVESTIGATED BUT I HAVEN'T
9:46:30AM MADE A DETERMINATION, BUT IT'S BEEN ACCEPTED FOR REVIEW.
9:46:39AM IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COMING UP WITH SPECIFIC
9:46:45AM CREDENTIALS FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT OR STATE GRANTS OR
9:46:49AM OTHER KINDS OF RECREATIONAL TYPE STRUCTURES AS THIS, YOU
9:46:58AM CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
9:47:00AM YOU CAN IS CREATE A LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT.
9:47:06AM YOU CAN DO THAT.
9:47:07AM I WILL SAY IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING LIKE 100-FOOT SETBACK FROM
9:47:11AM THE RESIDENCE, YOU ARE GOING TO IN EFFECT PROHIBIT THAT
9:47:21AM ANYWHERE IN THE RS-50, 60, 75 DISTRICTS, AND EVEN COMMERCIAL
9:47:24AM DISTRICT, BUT FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
9:47:30AM AND I WOULD HAVE TO CONFER WITH LEGAL AS TO SOMETHING LIKE
9:47:33AM THAT TO SEE IF YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT.
9:47:42AM BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN COME UP WITH CODE REQUIREMENTS, LIKE
9:47:46AM YOU DO FOR SEVERAL THINGS, BUT COMING UP LATER ON TALKING
9:47:52AM ABOUT PORCHES, HOW TO TREAT THEM A CERTAIN WAY TO MAKE THEM
9:47:56AM EASY TO ENJOY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
9:48:01AM YOU HAVE DONE IT WITH SIGNS, CERTAIN KIND OF SIGNS.
9:48:04AM SO FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY
9:48:10AM AND THE RIGHT TO THINK ABOUT SOME TYPE OF AMENDMENT TO HAVE
9:48:13AM THAT.
9:48:19AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, THOM.
9:48:22AM NOT REALLY A QUESTION FOR THOM.
9:48:24AM MAYBE FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
9:48:29AM I WAS ONCE LOOKING AT A HOUSE THAT WAS ACROSS THE STREET
9:48:32AM FROM A CITY PARK AND I THOUGHT, WOW, WOULDN'T THAT BE REALLY
9:48:35AM NICE TO BE ACROSS FROM A CITY PARK?
9:48:38AM AND THEN I SAT THERE AT THE HOUSE, INSIDE THE HOUSE, AND
9:48:40AM THERE WAS A SKATEBOARD PARK THERE.
9:48:43AM AND THAT NOISE WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY.
9:48:45AM AND I RAN AWAY FROM POTENTIALLY BUYING THAT HOUSE.
9:48:51AM NOT JUST A HALF HOUR OF IT.
9:48:54AM IT'S HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS OF THE NOISE.
9:48:59AM AND OBVIOUSLY HAD A VERY HIGH AMPLIFIED LEVEL.
9:49:03AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.
9:49:05AM I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MANISCALCO, COMPLETELY.
9:49:10AM YES, IF YOU HAVE AN ACRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR EVEN A
9:49:14AM HALF ACRE, IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
9:49:16AM BUT BEING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO BE THAT INCONSIDERATE I
9:49:21AM THINK IS WRONG.
9:49:22AM NOW, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?
9:49:26AM WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT IT?
9:49:32AM I THINK CLEARLY WE SHOULD ASK LEGAL, NOT NECESSARILY TODAY,
9:49:36AM BECAUSE THEY NEED TO RESEARCH IT, BUT TO COME BACK TO US
9:49:38AM VERY QUICKLY TO SEE WHAT CONSTRAINTS WE MIGHT HAVE IN TERMS
9:49:42AM OF PROHIBITING THEM OR MAKING A 100-FOOT LIMIT WHICH
9:49:47AM EFFECTIVELY MIGHT PROHIBIT THEM.
9:49:52AM IN MOST ZONES.
9:49:53AM AND ALSO TO PERHAPS -- AND I KNOW WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE
9:49:58AM PAST -- LOOK AT A MORATORIUM WHILE THE POTENTIAL ORDINANCE
9:50:03AM IS PENDING.
9:50:04AM BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO AMEND OUR ZONING CODE, IT CAN TAKE,
9:50:08AM WHAT, THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
9:50:13AM BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE COULD HAVE A MORATORIUM IF WE FEEL
9:50:16AM IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO
9:50:20AM PROLIFERATION OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS WHILE THE ORDINANCE
9:50:26AM IS MENDING.
9:50:28AM AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER ON THAT TODAY.
9:50:31AM JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
9:50:35AM I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS HAPPENING, BUT IT SOUND PRETTY
9:50:38AM HORRIFIC.
9:50:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I --
9:50:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I LOVE CHILDREN AND I AM NOT AGAINST
9:50:51AM SKATEBOARDERS.
9:50:52AM THEY CAN GO TO A PARK.
9:50:53AM THEY CAN GO DO IT OUT ON THE STREET OR ON THE SIDEWALK.
9:50:57AM BUT NOT IN THE BACKYARD.
9:51:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO HE BUILT A RESIDENTIAL SKATE PARK IN THE
9:51:08AM BACKYARD.
9:51:09AM >> IT'S 25 FEET FROM THAT WALL TO THAT WALL.
9:51:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE HAVE A SKATE WHAT I CALL A PARK,
9:51:18AM BASSICALLY.
9:51:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH HOUSE IS YOURS?
9:51:29AM >> WE SPENT ABOUT $50,000 IN OUR BACKYARD TO NOW HAVE ALL OF
9:51:35AM THESE YOUNG MEN STARING IN OUR BACKYARD AND INVADING OUR
9:51:40AM PRIVACY.
9:51:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU HAVE A POOL BACK THERE?
9:51:44AM >> YES, SIR.
9:51:46AM THE NOISE IS EXTREMELY EXCESSIVE.
9:51:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WOULD BE A NUISANCE.
9:51:58AM I HATE TO SAY THAT.
9:52:00AM BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT FENCE IS, YOU TALK ABOUT
9:52:02AM SKATEBOARD, TALK ABOUT PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN BACKYARDS, THEIR
9:52:06AM OWN PRIVATE EVENTS, AND THAN THOSE SKATEBOARDS --
9:52:16AM >> WE ALSO BELIEVE IT'S A LIABILITY ISSUE IN REGARDS TO
9:52:19AM SKATEBOARDS FLYING OVER PEOPLE, PEOPLE FLYING OVER.
9:52:27AM IT BECOMES A LIABILITY TO US.
9:52:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AGREE WITH MR. DINGFELDER TO LOOK AT THAT
9:52:36AM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.
9:52:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A DATE CERTAIN FOR THIS?
9:52:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE PASS NEW RULES WOULD THEY BE
9:52:51AM RETROACTIVE?
9:52:52AM SO SETTING THAT ASIDE FOR A SECOND, IT'S NOT BASED -- BASED
9:52:57AM ON WHAT THEY SAID, IF THERE ARE SOME CODES THAT ARE BEING
9:53:00AM BROKEN, SOUND OR OTHER ISSUES, CAN'T CODE ENFORCEMENT OR
9:53:03AM SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?
9:53:07AM >>THOM SNELLING: THE SOUND IS ENFORCED BY TPD.
9:53:11AM AND THEY CALLED TPD.
9:53:12AM AND TPD GOES OUT.
9:53:17AM THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, THERE IS A WAY TO ENFORCE THE
9:53:20AM SOUND.
9:53:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT SOUND LIKE WE CAN AND PROBABLY SHOULD GO
9:53:31AM THROUGH A PROCESS OF TRYING TO REGULATE THESE BUT I DON'T
9:53:33AM KNOW THAT THAT PROVIDES ANY RELIEF FOR THIS PARTICULAR
9:53:36AM FAMILY.
9:53:37AM SO I WONDER WHAT OTHER SOLUTIONS WE HAVE?
9:53:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT,
9:53:44AM TOO, MR. CARLSON.
9:53:45AM WITHOUT GOING INTO THE DETAILS MUCH, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WE
9:53:50AM CAN HAVE THIS QUOTED DOWN THE ROAD IN SOME COURT CASE.
9:53:53AM BUT I THINK BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PERMIT ORIGINALLY, THERE'S
9:53:56AM A TEMPORARY PERMIT NOW, AND MAYBE THERE'S IN THE FUTURE A
9:54:00AM PERMANENT PERMIT.
9:54:00AM WHAT I AM SAYING IS THERE'S A MORATORIUM IN PLACE QUICKLY,
9:54:05AM THEN THAT COULD CATCH ANY SKATEBOARD THAT HASN'T BEEN
9:54:12AM PROPERLY PERMITTED, PERHAPS THIS ONE.
9:54:14AM I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ABOUT THIS ONE AT ALL.
9:54:17AM FIRST I EVER HEARD ABOUT IT.
9:54:18AM BUT I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IF WE GET A MORATORIUM AND
9:54:22AM AN ORDINANCE THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FROM EXISTING
9:54:27AM ONES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PROPERLY PERMITTED.
9:54:30AM >>THOM SNELLING: IT HAS CURRENTLY BEEN PROPERLY PERMITTED
9:54:38AM AS A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE, AND THAT EXPIRES IN 180 DAYS.
9:54:41AM BUT IT HAS GONE THROUGH A PROPER PERMITTING PROCESS. WE'RE
9:54:42AM IN THE PROCESS OF INSPECTING, IS THE NEXT STEP.
9:54:44AM >> AND WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ANY MORE ABOUT THAT, JUST FOR
9:54:44AM LEGAL REASONS, IF YOU FOLLOW MY DRIFT.
9:54:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAYBE THIS IS A RIDICULOUS QUESTION BUT
9:55:03AM HOW DO YOU GET THIS SPECIFIC ONE DISMANTLED?
9:55:06AM THEY ARE SITTING ON THEIR FENCE LOOKING OVER THE PROPERTY,
9:55:08AM THE NOISE IS RIDICULOUS.
9:55:10AM YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S HOLLOW, AND THE NOISE OF THE
9:55:13AM SKATEBOARD WHEELS ON PLYWOOD OR WHATEVER MATERIAL, I THINK
9:55:16AM IT'S PLYWOOD, HOW DO YOU LIVE LIKE THAT?
9:55:19AM I'M A VERY PATIENT AND I LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND I KIND OF
9:55:21AM IGNORE THINGS.
9:55:22AM BUT THIS WOULD DRIVE ME NUTS ESPECIALLY AT THE END OF THE
9:55:26AM DAY I JUST WANT TO GO HOME AND SIT IN SILENCE.
9:55:28AM IF I HAD SOMEBODY SKATEBOARDING NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
9:55:32AM KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO.
9:55:33AM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:55:36AM THERE ARE PENDING CASES ON ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE
9:55:41AM CITY.
9:55:41AM WE ARE AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM. IT IS BEING ADDRESSED.
9:55:46AM AND THE INDIVIDUAL ENFORCEMENT OF THIS CASE HAS TO FILE OUR
9:55:48AM STANDARD RULES AND PROCEDURES.
9:55:51AM WE CAN'T MAKE UP NEW RULES JUST FOR THESE PEOPLE, BUT THE
9:55:56AM CITY IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THIS.
9:55:57AM THERE ARE OPEN ENFORCEMENT CASES.
9:55:59AM AND IT IS BEING WATCHED AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT
9:56:00AM COMPLIES.
9:56:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. MORA, HOW MANY VIOLATIONS DOES THIS
9:56:11AM HAVE, THIS STRUCTURE?
9:56:14AM >>KRISTIN MORA: I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE ACTIVE CASE.
9:56:17AM I'M NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THAT.
9:56:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO DUE PROCESS IS THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
9:56:24AM >> CAN I ADD ONE THING?
9:56:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
9:56:27AM >> THERE ARE SEVERAL CODE VIOLATIONS, CONSTRUCTED DURING THE
9:56:34AM SKATE RAMP CONSTRUCTION, THAT DID NOT HAVE THE PERMITS.
9:56:37AM HE'S ALSO BEEN CITED FOR CODE VIOLATIONS ON THE DRIVEWAY AND
9:56:41AM HIS FRONT WALKWAY.
9:56:42AM SO HE HAS A LOT OF VIOLATIONS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:56:46AM WE OF COURSE THINK THE SKATE PARK IS THE BIGGEST VIOLATION.
9:56:53AM BUT THIS PROPERTY OWNER DOES HAVE A LOT OF OPEN VIOLATIONS
9:56:55AM WITH THE CITY AND I HOPE THAT CONSIDERATION WOULD BE GIVEN
9:57:00AM TO ALL THE VIOLATIONS IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH HIM.
9:57:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND I'M SORRY FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS, TO TAKE
9:57:12AM TIME OUT OF YOUR THURSDAY TO COME DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL TO
9:57:15AM SEEK SOME RELIEF FROM US.
9:57:16AM AND SO YOU ALL'S ONLY REMEDY PRESENTLY IS TO CALL TPD, SO
9:57:21AM THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO BE ON EDGE, WAIT FOR THEM TO START,
9:57:25AM CALL TPD --
9:57:26AM >> AND WHEN TPD GETS THERE --
9:57:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN YOUR DAY IS RUINED. THAT'S TERRIBLE.
9:57:33AM I MEAN, CAN WE SEND A LETTER TO THIS GUY?
9:57:37AM NOT THAT I DON'T THINK HE SOUNDS LIKE A GENTLEMAN WHO
9:57:40AM WILL --
9:57:44AM >> I DON'T KNOW.
9:57:45AM SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
9:57:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE YOU INQUIRED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
9:57:52AM ASSOCIATION TO PUT PRESSURE ON?
9:57:53AM >> WE HAVE.
9:57:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:57:59AM THANK YOU.
9:57:59AM >> FROM DAY ONE, I'M SURE EVERYONE ON CITY COUNCIL --
9:58:07AM (MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS)
9:58:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ASKED FOR A MOTION.
9:58:16AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE.
9:58:17AM I WOULD LIKE STAFF AND LEGAL TO COME BACK TO US ON JUNE
9:58:22AM 6th WITH OPTIONS.
9:58:26AM AND I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS.
9:58:28AM WE HEARD SOME BANGING AROUND THE OTHER DAY; TO ADDRESS THIS
9:58:34AM ON A SHORT TERM BASIS AND A LONG-TERM BASIS.
9:58:39AM AND MR. SHELBY ADVISES ME THAT PERHAPS A MORATORIUM IS NOT A
9:58:46AM GREAT TERM OF ART, BUT THERE MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO
9:58:53AM APPROACHING IT WITH THE SAME EFFECT.
9:58:56AM ANYWAY, YOU GUYS PUT ON YOUR THINKING CAPS AND COME BACK TO
9:59:00AM US AND SEE HOW MUCH SUPPORT THERE IS.
9:59:04AM I HAVE A FEEL THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT.
9:59:06AM >> UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:59:12AM AND APPARENTLY MRS. COYLE IS HERE ON A CYCLE OF ZONING CODE
9:59:18AM CHANGES, IF WE CAN SLIP THAT IN UNDERSTOOD THIS CYCLE, AND
9:59:22AM SEND IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION SOONER THAN LATER, THEN
9:59:25AM WE WON'T MISS OUT ON THE SIX MONTHS, WHATEVER CYCLE.
9:59:30AM >> SECOND.
9:59:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD.
9:59:34AM YOU ARE ASKING THE STAFF AND LEGAL TO COME BACK WITH ANY
9:59:39AM RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT ALSO -- NOT IN
9:59:42AM THIS PARTICULAR CASE, JUST IN GENERAL.
9:59:45AM >> NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, NO.
9:59:50AM GENERALLY HOW TO HANDLE IT.
9:59:51AM AND FRANKLY IN MY OPINION POTENTIALLY PROHIBIT SKATING
9:59:59AM FACILITIES IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
10:00:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL?
10:00:05AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:00:08AM OH, I'M SORRY.
10:00:13AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: PLANNING AND ZONING, DEVELOPMENT
10:00:14AM COORDINATION.
10:00:14AM I WANT TO ADVISE COUNCIL IT'S CODIFIED THAT WE HAVE TWO
10:00:18AM CYCLES PER YEAR FOR CODE AMENDMENTS.
10:00:20AM SO IF YOU MADE A MOTION TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO DIRECT
10:00:24AM ME TO MAKE THE CHANGE TO THE CODE FOR THE JULY CYCLE, WHICH
10:00:30AM IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO PROCESS IN THE BATCHES.
10:00:33AM WE CAN PROCESS IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, PROBABLY BY
10:00:35AM SOMETIME AROUND OCTOBER, BUT THE CYCLE WOULD BE IN JANUARY.
10:00:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME HOPE FOR
10:00:48AM THESE POOR FOLKS.
10:00:49AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:00:51AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:00:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:00:54AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:00:56AM AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPEN-ENDED DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE
10:01:00AM THAT CAN GIVE STAFF TIME TO HAVE ALL REASONABLE REMEDIES.
10:01:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ADD?
10:01:08AM I THINK FROM WHAT YOU SAID -- AND MAYBE I AM BEHIND THE
10:01:10AM TIMES BUT THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT IS POPPING UP THAT
10:01:13AM PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO BUILD THESE SO WHAT I THINK WE ARE
10:01:16AM TRYING TO DO IS ADDRESS A NEW PHENOMENON THAT HASN'T BEEN --
10:01:21AM AND ASKING STAFF ABOUT --
10:01:27AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:01:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS?
10:01:31AM OKAY.
10:01:32AM MR. SAL TERRITO HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.
10:01:35AM I KNOW YOU WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
10:01:37AM >>SAL TERRITO: CITY ATTORNEY.
10:01:42AM A QUESTION CAME UP IN ONE OF YOUR EARLIER MEETINGS ON
10:01:44AM WHETHER ZONING ISSUE HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK AT THAT PARTICULAR
10:01:53AM TIME.
10:01:53AM EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME PAGE INCLUDING ME.
10:01:55AM AND I ASKED MY STAFF TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, AND
10:01:59AM THE CONSENSUS FROM MY STAFF AND FROM EVERYBODY ELSE OUT
10:02:02AM THERE IS IF SOMEONE HAS MET ALL THE STANDARD TO BRING THIS
10:02:05AM ITEM BEFORE YOU, THEY CAN INSIST ON HAVING A VOTE.
10:02:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:02:15AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:02:19AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. TERRITO, WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR WHEN
10:02:21AM WE HAD THIS LAST DISCUSSION, MR. SHELBY AND I DISCUSSED IT,
10:02:24AM WAS, IS THERE ANY CASE LAW, IS THERE ANY ORDINANCE, IS THERE
10:02:27AM ANY STATUTE REGARDING FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION THAT
10:02:32AM WOULD DEMAND THAT?
10:02:37AM BECAUSE IN SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE SAY THIS IS OUR
10:02:42AM MEETING, WE ESTABLISH THE RULES.
10:02:44AM IN THAT CASE, THE OTHER NIGHT, MANY OF US FELT WE NEEDED
10:02:48AM MORE INFORMATION, AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT
10:02:52AM IT OFF TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHICH IS OVEN THE
10:02:58AM CASE.
10:02:58AM MR. CITRO AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN VRB, WE NEED MORE
10:03:02AM INFORMATION, WE PUT IT OFF.
10:03:06AM IS THERE ANY CASE LAW OR STATUTE ON POINT?
10:03:10AM >>SAL TERRITO: THERE'S NO CASE LAW OR STATUTE ON POINT.
10:03:13AM WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH IS A DUE PROCESS ISSUE.
10:03:15AM IF SOMEONE HAS ALL THE STANDARD AND THEY ARE ENTITLED TO
10:03:19AM HAVE A DECISION BEFORE ANY GROUP THEY COME BEFORE AND THE
10:03:22AM CONSENSUS, AND ALL THE ATTORNEYS WE HAVE TALKED TO, IT IS A
10:03:24AM DUE PROCESS ISSUE, A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE, AND THEY ARE
10:03:27AM ENTITLED TO HAVE A VOTE.
10:03:28AM IF YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU YOUR
10:03:31AM OBVIOUS IS VERY OBVIOUS.
10:03:33AM YOU CAN VOTE NO.
10:03:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD?
10:03:44AM >>KRISTIN MORA: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:03:46AM I DID SOME RESEARCH.
10:03:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
10:03:56AM I'LL ACCEPT THAT.
10:03:57AM NOT HAPPY WITH IT BUT I ACCEPT IT.
10:03:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:04:06AM ALL RIGHT.
10:04:06AM ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
10:04:08AM NO?
10:04:09AM ALL RIGHT.
10:04:09AM MOVING ON FROM THAT, WE GO TO WORKSHOP ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:04:13AM THIS WORKSHOP ITEM IS ABOUT ACCRETION OF A CITIZENS TRAFFIC
10:04:18AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
10:04:19AM THIS WAS A MOTION THAT I HAD MADE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND IT
10:04:24AM WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION FROM THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:04:29AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THE IDEA WAS ACCRETION OF A
10:04:31AM NEW BOARD.
10:04:32AM IT WOULD BE A SUNSHINE BOARD, POTENTIAL TITLE, CITIZENS
10:04:39AM TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD, BASICALLY.
10:04:42AM CERTAIN MEMBERS, SET AMOUNT OF MEMBERS, REPRESENTING ALL
10:04:47AM PARTS OF THE CITY.
10:04:48AM SO IT WOULD BE SOUTH TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, AND AN
10:04:54AM ADVISORY GROUP THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
10:04:59AM TO OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REGARDING, FOR EXAMPLE,
10:05:02AM LET'S SAY IN SOUTH TAMPA INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW.
10:05:07AM WE HAVE ROAD REPAVINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED OR SHOULD BE
10:05:11AM LOOKED AT OR PRIORITIZED BY LAW, NEW SIDEWALKS, SPEEDING,
10:05:17AM TRAFFIC CALMING ISSUES, FOUR-WAY STOPS THAT ARE LACKING AND
10:05:22AM WHATNOT, JUST TO GET A BASIS.
10:05:25AM MRS. DUNCAN, WERE YOU BRIEFED ON ANYTHING REGARDING THIS IN
10:05:29AM THE PAST FEW DAYS?
10:05:30AM I KNOW WE SPOKE WITH WILLIAM FORD.
10:05:35AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER SERVICES.
10:05:40AM I DID RECEIVE YESTERDAY AN OUTLINE OF PROPOSALS FROM, I
10:05:45AM BELIEVE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:05:47AM AND SO I AM HERE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE SUGGESTIONS ARE,
10:05:53AM AND WE CAN SEE HOW WE CAN LUMP THAT IN WITH ENGAGEMENT WITH
10:05:57AM THE ADMINISTRATION, WORKING ON TO SEE HOW WE ARE GOING TO
10:06:01AM BLEND IN CITIZEN INPUT ALONG WITH THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA
10:06:05AM THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR DIFFERENT
10:06:08AM ASPECTS OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
10:06:11AM SO I DID SEE THE POWER POINT YESTERDAY.
10:06:16AM I BELIEVE IT WAS THE INTENT THAT BE SHOWN HERE TODAY.
10:06:20AM SO I AM GOING TO LISTEN AND TAKE BACK YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND
10:06:22AM SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
10:06:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:06:26AM >>SAL TERRITO: THE STRUCTURE THEY'VE SEEN IS ONE THEY CAN'T
10:06:33AM USE AND THE WAY THEY HAVE THEIR PYRAMID BUILT UP, CITY
10:06:36AM OVERSIGHT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:06:39AM THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
10:06:42AM YOU ARE OVERSIGHT.
10:06:43AM YOU ARE THE ONES THAT OVERSEE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DOES.
10:06:46AM WE CAN'T SUBSTITUTE YOUR OVERSIGHT FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S.
10:06:50AM THEY ARE PERFECTLY WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS, IF THEY WANT TO SET
10:06:53AM UP A COMMITTEE, THEY WANT TO GIVE ADVICE, THEY WANT TO GIVE
10:06:56AM ALL KINDS OF DOCUMENTATION, THEY CAN MAKE ALL KIND OF
10:06:59AM PROPERTY REQUESTS, BUT THE STRUCTURE I HAVE SEEN IN THEIR
10:07:02AM POWER POINT PRESENTATION IS ONE THAT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN OUR
10:07:05AM CHARTER AND WITHIN THE JURISDICTION THAT YOU HAVE OR THE
10:07:08AM ADMINISTRATION HAS.
10:07:11AM THE ADMINISTRATION IS A SEPARATE FUNCTION.
10:07:13AM IT'S A -- ANYBODY CAN PUT ANY COMMITTEE TOGETHER, THEY CAN
10:07:18AM GIVE ADVICE, COME DOWN AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY LIKE.
10:07:22AM THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME NOW.
10:07:23AM SO WHAT THEY ARE ASKING IS SOMETHING FAR MORE FORMAL THAN
10:07:27AM WHAT OUR STRUCTURE PERMITS.
10:07:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD, WE
10:07:32AM SUBMITTED THE -- YES, YOU HAVE IT THERE.
10:07:36AM THE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE, IS IN
10:07:39AM REGARDS TO THE TRANSPORTATION, AND THAT WAS APPROVED.
10:07:46AM THEY ARE AT THE BOTTOM, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE THE MPO, THEY
10:07:50AM HAVE THE CAC.
10:07:51AM WHEN THE CAC MEETS AND THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND
10:07:54AM THEY SUBMIT IT, YOU KNOW, OR THEY PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD
10:07:57AM AND SAY WE DON'T LIKE THIS OR THIS LINE SHOULD BE REMOVED OR
10:08:02AM ADDED.
10:08:03AM THEY DON'T CONTROL FUNDING, THEY DON'T CONTROL WHAT PROJECTS
10:08:06AM GET IN AND OUT.
10:08:07AM IT'S SIMPLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MISUNDERSTOOD, THE
10:08:13AM INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THEY WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM
10:08:17AM AND THEY WOULD GIVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO STAFF, YOU
10:08:20AM KNOW, PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN IT'S UP TO MRS.
10:08:24AM DUNCAN AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO SAY, OKAY, WE
10:08:27AM SEE A DEMAND HERE, MAYBE WE CAN PRIORITIZE THIS.
10:08:31AM IF COUNCIL APPROVES OR SHE MAKES THE DECISION OR WHATNOT IS
10:08:35AM A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
10:08:36AM BUT IT'S SIMPLY AN ADVISORY BOARD GIVING AN OPINION.
10:08:39AM >>SAL TERRITO: AN ADVISORY BOARD, AN INDEPENDENT ADVISORY
10:08:43AM BOARD IF THEY ARE SETTING UP THEMSELVES AND BRINGING IT TO
10:08:47AM YOU, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
10:08:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE WE ESTABLISHED BOARDS WITH THE
10:08:53AM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR THE BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL,
10:08:55AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY COME BEFORE US AND SAY THESE ARE
10:08:57AM SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WE LIKE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PUT
10:09:02AM FORTH IN THE NEXT BUDGET OR SO.
10:09:03AM BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS HERE, IF HE CAN COME UP AND GIVE
10:09:10AM A BRIEF DESCRIPTION.
10:09:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY TO KIND OF SECOND WHAT COUNCILMAN
10:09:19AM MANISCALCO SAID, WHEN I SAW THIS, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN YOU
10:09:22AM A SO MANY IDEA.
10:09:24AM I'M 100% BEHIND IT.
10:09:25AM IF IT IS USED LIKE THE BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD THAT WE RELY
10:09:29AM UPON A LOT FOR ADVICE, THIS IS A BOARD THAT WILL BE CHARGED
10:09:33AM NOT WITH THE TEN COMMANDMENTS BUT WITH THE TEN SUGGESTIONS,
10:09:37AM SO TO SPEAK.
10:09:38AM I THINK IT'S -- THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE IT.
10:09:41AM ALL RIGHT, SIR.
10:09:42AM >> TIM KEYPORTS: I HAPPEN TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE OLD
10:09:50AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ALSO THE VICE
10:09:53AM PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER.
10:09:55AM THIS, IF WE CAN PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN, THIS IS ACTUALLY
10:10:00AM THE LAST SLIDE.
10:10:02AM THIS CONCEPT CAME OUT OF A NUMBER OF MEETINGS.
10:10:06AM UNFORTUNATELY THE INCIDENT LAST YEAR THAT HAPPENED ON
10:10:08AM BAYSHORE WITH THE TWO INDIVIDUALS WERE KILLED IN A SPEEDING
10:10:12AM INCIDENT HAD HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:10:15AM THAT GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION.
10:10:17AM \HE WOULD\WE JUMPED INTO ACTION, AND CITY OF TAMPA WHERE THE
10:10:22AM TWO MADE CHANGES ON BAYSHORE QUICKLY.
10:10:25AM OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS ASKED TO
10:10:27AM MEET WITH A NUMBER OF THE ASSOCIATIONS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA
10:10:30AM AREA.
10:10:31AM AND THEN WE HAD A BUNCH OF OTHER RUN-OFF TYPE NEEDS.
10:10:38AM WHAT HAPPENED IS YOU HAD INDIVIDUAL LIKE MYSELF, OTHER
10:10:41AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS, INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS
10:10:43AM COME BEFORE YOU AND ASK FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION, GOING TO MRS.
10:10:49AM DUNCAN'S OFFICE, WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT
10:10:52AM THEY ARE ALL RUN-OFF TYPE SITUATIONS.
10:11:00AM WE GET A NEW STOP SIGN.
10:11:02AM A NUMBER OF YOU IN THE CAMPAIGN SEASON STOOD THERE WITH US
10:11:06AM AS CITIZENS HOLDING UP SIGNS, WE LIVE HERE, OUR CHILDREN
10:11:11AM LIVE HERE, PLEASE SLOW DOWN.
10:11:12AM THAT'S EFFECTIVE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
10:11:14AM WHAT I AM PROPOSING IS THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A MORE
10:11:19AM STRUCTURED SITUATION, IF WE CAN PUT THE PRESENTATION BACK
10:11:24AM UP.
10:11:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S UP ON OUR SCREEN.
10:11:28AM >> AGAIN TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE, THE ICC IS PART OF THAT
10:11:37AM FUNDING, THAT BOARD ALREADY EXISTS.
10:11:42AM THE AGENCIES, WHETHER THAT'S FDOT OR CITY OF TAMPA, PUTTING
10:11:46AM IN AN IMPROVEMENT, CLEARLY THE MAYOR, AND -- I SHOULD SAY
10:11:53AM CITY COUNCIL BELOW IT.
10:11:54AM YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKERS.
10:11:56AM BUT WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS WE HAVE EITHER CITIZENS COMING
10:12:05AM OUT TO EVENING MEETINGS, THINGS GET PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE, OR
10:12:10AM SIMPLY GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.
10:12:12AM SO ONE WAY THAT IN OUR AREA THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON, TRYING TO
10:12:18AM KEEP ON TOP OF THIS, IS THE CAMPAIGN.
10:12:24AM THE IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS FOR SIX WEEKS IN A ROW CREATING A
10:12:31AM PROCESS.
10:12:32AM THAT CAN BE EXPORTED TO ANYPLACE IN THE CITY THAT YOU ALL
10:12:35AM REPRESENT.
10:12:36AM DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE CITY.
10:12:37AM THAT COULD BE EXPORTED TO SOUTH TAMPA OR EAST TAMPA, AND
10:12:43AM GOING TO SHOW THAT AREA AND HOW WE WERE ABLE TO INFORM THE
10:12:48AM PROCESS.
10:12:50AM YOU HAVE GOT OTHER -- BY BRINGING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION
10:12:55AM INTO A WELL-ESTABLISHED BOARD, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
10:13:00AM IT.
10:13:05AM BOTH OF THOSE TO THE PLANNING STAFF TO ACCESS SOMEBODY FROM
10:13:08AM STORMWATER, TRANSPORTATION, AND A TPD OFFICER BE ASSIGNED TO
10:13:12AM THAT BOARD TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL INPUT, BUT ALLOW THEM TO
10:13:16AM BRING THAT INTO THE CITY AND THEN BACK TO THE BOARD.
10:13:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU HAVE A
10:13:27AM QUESTION?
10:13:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] WE COULD ESTABLISH THIS
10:13:50AM SIMILAR TO THE BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE.
10:13:52AM THAT WOULD RESPOND TO US.
10:13:58AM I DON'T THINK WE CAN EXPAND OUR JURISDICTION TO TELL THIS
10:14:00AM BOARD, OKAY, YOU CAN CONTACT COUNTY PLANNERS, YOU CAN GO
10:14:05AM DIRECTLY TO JEAN DUNCAN AND TELL HER WHAT TO DO,
10:14:08AM BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
10:14:09AM I THINK WE STRAY FROM OUR JURISDICTION AND OUR ABILITY.
10:14:14AM BUT I'M INTRIGUED BY THE NOTION, REGARDLESS OF THE OFFICE OF
10:14:26AM TRANSPORTATION, WE ALL GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND
10:14:28AM TRANSPORTATION, MORE AND MORE AS TRAFFIC GETS WORSE AND
10:14:31AM WORSE.
10:14:32AM AND I THINK TO HAVE AN ESTABLISHED CITIZENS BOARD AS A PLACE
10:14:38AM TO KIND OF HASH OUT THESE ISSUES IS A GOOD IDEA.
10:14:42AM STRUCTURALLY, MR. MANISCALCO AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT
10:14:45AM WOULD BE EASIER AND SIMPLER IF WE ALL JUST PICKED ONE
10:14:48AM PERSON, BECAUSE THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO VOTING
10:14:53AM AND THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK WE DO ON THE
10:14:56AM BUDGET.
10:14:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:15:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AGREE.
10:15:02AM SO ANYWAY -- I'M IN FAVOR OF IT UNDER THAT STRUCTURE.
10:15:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH
10:15:08AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:15:10AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:15:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HERE I SPEND A
10:15:23AM LOT OF TIME ON TRANSPORTATION RELATED ISSUES AND IT'S A HIGH
10:15:27AM PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US.
10:15:28AM I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR CITY COUNCIL IS WHAT INFLUENCE DO
10:15:30AM WE HAVE OVER IT, AND I THINK A CHALLENGE FOR A COMMUNITY
10:15:35AM LIKE THIS IS WHAT WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO IN CITY COUNCIL
10:15:37AM WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS?
10:15:38AM YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN I, BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU
10:15:41AM KNOW, STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IT, AND THEY
10:15:46AM REPORT TO THE MAYOR.
10:15:47AM SO FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE MAYBE TWO
10:15:52AM APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR IF WE DO THIS, BECAUSE IF THE MAYOR
10:15:55AM IS NOT INVOLVED IT'S NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD.
10:15:59AM NUMBER TWO IS THAT ULTIMATELY THE PLANNERS AND THE STAFF
10:16:03AM HAVE TO DEVELOP THESE PLANS.
10:16:05AM THERE'S AD HOC REQUESTS THAT WE ARE GETTING EVERY DAY.
10:16:11AM BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY FOR THE OFFICE OF
10:16:16AM TRANSPORTATION MONEY, BECAUSE OF LAWSUITS, SOME THINGS ARE
10:16:20AM DELAYED RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THERE'S
10:16:23AM MONEY TO DO VISIONING AND PLANNING.
10:16:25AM AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
10:16:27AM HAVE SOME INPUT INTO THAT PROCESS, BUT WE NEED TO WORK
10:16:31AM COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE STAFF TO DO
10:16:33AM THAT.
10:16:34AM AND WE CAN HAVE THIS COMMITTEE BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO
10:16:39AM FIGURE OUT A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
10:16:47AM ONE THING I BELIEVE STRONGLY WE SHOULD WORK ON IS SIDEWALKS.
10:16:50AM WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND THE
10:16:53AM SIDEWALK BUDGET IS GOING DO GO UP EXPONENTIALLY AND WE DON'T
10:16:57AM HAVE A PLAN FOR IT.
10:16:58AM IF STAFF WANTS TO CREATE A PLAN, BUT MONEY IS BEING HELD UP
10:17:02AM TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
10:17:03AM BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MAYBE GET INPUT INTO THE
10:17:06AM SIDEWALK VISIONING AND PROCESS AND A CYCLING VISION AND
10:17:11AM PROCESS, AND THEN BEYOND THAT A PROCESS OF RAIL OR WHATEVER,
10:17:17AM IT REQUEST BE INPUTTED RIGHT AWAY.
10:17:20AM SIDEWALKS ARE SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
10:17:21AM AND HOPEFULLY AS THE PARTIES SUGGEST, STARTING WITH SAFE
10:17:26AM ROUTES TO AND FROM SCHOOLS, AND MAYBE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
10:17:30AM COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WE CAN DO SOME VISIONING FOR SIDEWALKS
10:17:33AM THAT -- I DON'T LIKE USING THE TERM COMPLETE STREET BECAUSE
10:17:37AM MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
10:17:39AM BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HOW SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIANS INTEGRATE
10:17:42AM WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, IT COULD REALLY
10:17:47AM TRANSFORM AN AREA IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.
10:17:49AM AND WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
10:17:51AM MY QUESTION TO US IS HOW CAN WE INFLUENCE THAT PROCESS? HOW
10:17:55AM CAN WE GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN A MEANINGFUL WAY THAT'S
10:17:59AM NOT US SETTING UP RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE STAFF AND THE
10:18:04AM MARY CAN'T IMPLEMENT?
10:18:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:18:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:18:11AM TIM, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP THE AMENDMENT TO YOUR PLAN
10:18:14AM THERE.
10:18:15AM TO KEEP BOTH BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, THE MAYOR AND THE
10:18:18AM ADMINISTRATIVE -- EXCUSE ME, EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE, MOST
10:18:25AM OF THE BOARDS DO HAVE TO APPOINT.
10:18:29AM HOWEVER THIS IS JUST AN ADVISORY BOARD, NOT BINDING.
10:18:33AM I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE, MR. CHAIR, TO APPOINT --
10:18:42AM >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE?
10:18:44AM >> THOSE ARE ALL EXCELLENT POINTS.
10:18:45AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT BACK UP AND MAYBE YOU CAN SEE
10:18:48AM IT.
10:18:50AM >> WE HAVE IT HERE.
10:18:51AM >>TIM KEYPORTS: AGAIN, THIS IS A WORKSHOP.
10:18:54AM SO CERTAINLY MODIFICATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE.
10:18:57AM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TITLE, TRANSPORTATION
10:19:00AM ADVISORY BOARD, COMMITTEE, WHATEVER THE RIGHT TERM IS THAT'S
10:19:04AM APPROPRIATE.
10:19:05AM WE DO HAVE BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL.
10:19:10AM SO WHATEVER THE RIGHT TITLE IS.
10:19:11AM BUT MY ADDITIONS HERE, REPRESENTATIVES FROM TAMPA CITY
10:19:16AM COUNCIL, SO FOUR, THROW AT-LARGE, THE MAYOR WILL BE
10:19:22AM SELECTING SOMEBODY.
10:19:25AM I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE MAYOR TO SELECT THAT
10:19:29AM INDIVIDUAL.
10:19:29AM AND THEN A CHAIR.
10:19:33AM AGAIN, IT IS JUST INPUT.
10:19:35AM SO WORKING WITH THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF, PROVIDING IDEAS,
10:19:38AM WORKING WITH CITIZENS GROUPS.
10:19:45AM ANOTHER POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP WHEN I CAME TO
10:19:48AM TAMPA SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, THE PLANNER THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
10:19:51AM SIDEWALKS THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY SAID THAT SHE IS WORKING
10:19:57AM OFF OF A [COUGH] 600 THOUSAND DOLLARS SIDEWALK BUDGET.
10:20:00AM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS MOVING THAT TO $6 MILLION.
10:20:09AM WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE YOUR BUDGET WAS GOING DO GO.
10:20:12AM WE NEED INPUT TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED SIDEWALKS.
10:20:16AM THAT'S JUST A SMALL EXAMPLE.
10:20:21AM SO WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT DEMANDING ANYTHING.
10:20:24AM WE ARE NOT DRIVING THE TRAIN.
10:20:25AM WE ARE JUST PROVIDING INPUT.
10:20:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:20:28AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:20:30AM THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:20:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS REALLY A WONDERFUL THING THAT'S
10:20:35AM NEEDED.
10:20:35AM MY OFFICE GETS CALLS, PEOPLE THAT STOP ME IN THE COFFEE SHOP
10:20:40AM OR IN THE STREET OR IN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS,
10:20:42AM WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS?
10:20:44AM IF WE CAN CONDENSE ALL OF THAT TO THIS BOARD -- AND THERE
10:20:48AM WILL BE EQUITY.
10:20:49AM AND I LIKE WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID ABOUT HAVING THE
10:20:54AM MAYOR BE APPOINTEES BECAUSE WE WANT TO CREATE A PARTNERSHIP
10:20:57AM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION SO EVERYBODY'S VOICE IS HEARD.
10:21:01AM AS WE APPOINT ONE PERSON, EACH ONE OF US, I WOULD CERTAINLY
10:21:06AM APPOINT SOMEBODY FROM THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT.
10:21:09AM SO OF COURSE THERE IS EQUITY.
10:21:11AM YOU HAVE THE SOUTH, EAST, WEST AND NORTH.
10:21:13AM I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD WAS CREATED.
10:21:17AM MR. SHELBY, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TO DO?
10:21:21AM TO WE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK DURING A REGULAR COUNCIL
10:21:24AM MEETING TO PROVIDE LIKE A FOUNDATION OR BASIS FOR THIS BOARD
10:21:29AM TO BE CREATED?
10:21:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT RAISES A LOT OF ISSUES.
10:21:32AM MAYBE MR. TERRITO WOULD WANT TO OPINE AS TO THE PROPOSAL AS
10:21:36AM PRESENTED BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
10:21:38AM >>SAL TERRITO: I THINK WE ARE GETTING INTO THE
10:21:41AM ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION RATHER THAN LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION.
10:21:44AM AS A LEGISLATURE YOU HAVE THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY TO SET UP A
10:21:47AM COMMITTEE AND CHOOSE MEMBERS YOU WANT.
10:21:49AM PUTTING THE MAYOR ON THERE GETS VERY CLOSE TO GETTING OVER
10:21:52AM THE LINE.
10:21:54AM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE -- AND I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE
10:21:56AM TO HEAR THIS ESPECIALLY NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T LIKE TO
10:22:00AM HEAR THESE THINGS, THE MAYOR SETS THE POLICIES ON THOSE
10:22:02AM KINDS OF PROJECTS.
10:22:03AM YOU HAVE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO TURN THEM DOWN.
10:22:05AM THEY COME TO YOU.
10:22:06AM BUT YOU CAN'T BE INVOLVED IN THE SEPARATION.
10:22:09AM YOU CAN BE ADVISED BY ANYONE YOU WANT, SET UP A COMMITTEE.
10:22:13AM IT IS IN YOUR JURISDICTION TO DO THAT.
10:22:15AM WE CAN ADVICE YOU ANYTHING US WANT.
10:22:17AM PUTTING THE MAYOR CROSSES THE LINE ON MIXING THE
10:22:20AM ADMINISTRATION AND LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION THAT YOU HAVE.
10:22:24AM I AM RECOMMENDATION IF YOU SET A COMMITTEE UP DO NOT INCLUDE
10:22:26AM ANYONE FROM THE MAYOR'S STAFF ON THAT -- THE MAYOR'S CHOICE.
10:22:30AM THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE AND YOU SHOULD KEEP IT CLEARLY
10:22:33AM DISTINCTIVE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.
10:22:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I APPRECIATE.
10:22:40AM THAT I WAS HERE FOR THE POLICE REVIEW BOARD.
10:22:42AM I KNOW THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:22:45AM WE CAN AVOID THAT AND MAKE IT STRICTLY CITY COUNCIL
10:22:48AM COMMITTEE WHERE WE APPOINT THE PEOPLE AND THEN THE
10:22:50AM COMMITTEE, YOU ELECT YOUR CHAIR OR WHATEVER AT THAT POINT,
10:22:54AM OR THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND SAY
10:22:57AM THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE, AND WE CAN DO THAT.
10:22:59AM >>SAL TERRITO: YES.
10:23:01AM AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO OVER THE LINE RIGHT NOW.
10:23:03AM THE ADMINISTRATION IS THE ONE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU.
10:23:08AM THEY ARE GOING TO COME TO YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:23:10AM YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE INPUT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
10:23:11AM PEOPLE COMING UP AND IF THEY COME TO YOU WITH CONTRACT THAT
10:23:20AM IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOU SIMPLY TURN THEM DOWN.
10:23:21AM SO THE ADMINISTRATION WILL HAVE TO SPEARHEAD THE PROCESS
10:23:25AM BECAUSE CLEARLY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING, THE
10:23:29AM WAY THAT'S DONE, IF THESE PLANS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU,
10:23:31AM THAT'S STRICTLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.
10:23:34AM THERE ARE PEOPLE ON STAFF RIGHT NOW COMING BEFORE YOU WITH
10:23:36AM RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THINGS SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. YOU HAVE
10:23:40AM THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT COMES UP. IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE
10:23:40AM BUDGET.
10:23:41AM IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THOSE PROJECTS, THAT IS WITHIN
10:23:44AM YOUR JURISDICTION TO DO THAT.
10:23:45AM BUT IT HAS REALLY GOT TO BE INITIATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION
10:23:49AM AND THEN APPROVED BY YOU AT SOME POINT.
10:23:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
10:23:54AM THE OTHER THING TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, TO YOUR QUESTION,
10:23:59AM IF COUNCIL WISHES TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, IS A TIME TO BE
10:24:04AM ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BE ABLE TO COME UP
10:24:06AM WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:24:07AM THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
10:24:10AM ONE OF THEM IS, AGAIN -- AND MR. TERRITO ALLUDED TO IT --
10:24:16AM BUT THE QUESTION AS TO WHAT DEGREE IS THE OBLIGATION.
10:24:20AM ADMINISTRATION, AND FRANKLY THERE IS NONE, TO COMMITTEE
10:24:24AM STAFF RESOURCES TO THIS COMMITTEE.
10:24:26AM BECAUSE FOUNTAIN INVOLVES STAFF, THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO
10:24:28AM PARTICIPATE IN IT.
10:24:30AM IT A BURDEN UPON THEM AND THEY HAVE TASKS THAT THEY HAVE TO
10:24:33AM DO, THEN IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE
10:24:36AM IF THEY ARE UNABLE, UNWILLING, IF THAT'S THE MAYOR'S
10:24:40AM DIRECTION.
10:24:41AM THE OTHER THING IS -- AND MR. TERRITO ALSO MENTIONED WITH
10:24:43AM REGARD TO THE BUDGET, CERTAINLY ON A WEEK BY WEEK BASIS, YOU
10:24:48AM ARE PRESENTED A CONTRACT WITH THE CULMINATION OF THE PLAN,
10:24:51AM AND YOUR STEP IS THE INSTITUTION OF IT.
10:24:56AM PRIOR TO THAT YOU DO HAVE THE BUDGET REVIEW.
10:24:58AM JUST AN OBSERVATION.
10:25:00AM YOUR ROLE IN THIS PROCESS RELATIVE TO TRANSPORTATION, WILL
10:25:09AM CREATE AN OBLIGATION OF THIS BOARD TO GIVE THE CAPITAL
10:25:13AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN GREATER SCRUTINY BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS
10:25:18AM GOING TO SHOW ITS WAY THROUGH THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND
10:25:22AM TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS OF THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS THEY COME
10:25:25AM ON LINE.
10:25:26AM SO THAT ALL BEING SAID, THE FINAL THING I WANT TO REMIND
10:25:29AM YOU, COUNCIL, IS THAT WHEN YOU DAYLIGHT THIS BOARD YOU
10:25:33AM CREATE A SUNSHINE BOARD.
10:25:34AM THEREFORE, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH EVERY ELEMENT OF FLORIDA
10:25:38AM LAW RELATIVE TO SUNSHINE.
10:25:41AM THAT WOULD BE NOTICE OF THE HEARING, A SUITABLE LOCATION
10:25:45AM THAT HAS TO BE PROVIDED TO THEM, THAT COMPLIES WITH THE
10:25:49AM FLORIDA STATUTE AND THE CASE LAW, AND ALSO -- (COUGH)
10:25:55AM AND YOU KNOW IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, IT IS AN UNDERTAKING
10:25:58AM OF YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT ALLOWS THAT BOARD TO
10:26:02AM SUPPORT IT.
10:26:02AM SO YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION COUNCIL
10:26:09AM RESOURCES AND YOUR RESOURCES IN THE CREATION AND SUSTENANCE
10:26:13AM OF THIS BOARD.
10:26:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
10:26:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, IF WE GAVE YOU 60 DAYS OR
10:26:25AM 90 DAYS TO EXPLORE THIS AND SEE HOW IT CAN BE BEST
10:26:29AM STRUCTURED, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY, THE BEST -- WOULD THAT
10:26:36AM BE OKAY WITH YOU?
10:26:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
10:26:40AM AND ANY OTHER DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO AT LEAST
10:26:44AM COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO ME.
10:26:47AM I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
10:26:49AM BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS AND HAPPY TO WORK
10:26:54AM WITH OPTIONS YOU HAVE COMING BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
10:26:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING.
10:27:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: PHILOSOPHICALLY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET
10:27:07AM RESULTS, AND EXPECTING WHAT MR. TERRITO WAS GOING TO SAY, I
10:27:15AM DON'T WANT TO SET UP SOMETHING THAT RAISES EXPECTATION FOR
10:27:18AM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT.
10:27:20AM WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER STAFF.
10:27:22AM AND WE CAN GET IDEAS.
10:27:23AM BUT THAT'S REALLY THE MAYOR'S JOB.
10:27:26AM AND SEPARATE FROM THIS CONVERSATION, I DID HAVE A DISCUSSION
10:27:28AM WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT SIDEWALKS, AND SHE ASKED ME JUST BE
10:27:31AM PATIENT AND LET HER WORK WITH STAFF.
10:27:33AM AND I SAID GREAT.
10:27:36AM I THINK IT'S GREAT TO GET PUBLIC INPUT, BUT IF IT CAN'T GO
10:27:43AM ANYWHERE, THEN I FEEL LIKE IT'S A WASTE OF TIME.
10:27:45AM IF WE DO DO SOMETHING, POINT NUMBER TWO, I WOULD
10:27:49AM RECOMMEND -- I DON'T KNOW THE STRUCTURE IN CITY COUNCIL, BUT
10:27:52AM ON OTHER BOARDS I SIT ON, TASK FORCES FOR A LIMITED PERIOD
10:27:56AM OF TIME, THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS.
10:27:58AM BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING AS A TEST CASE TO SET UP A
10:28:02AM LIMITED TIME PERIOD TASK FORCE THAT WOULD STUDY ONE PIECE OF
10:28:05AM IT, MAYBE SIDEWALKS, AND GET INPUT AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK
10:28:08AM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:28:10AM AND IF IT PRODUCES COLLABORATIVE IDEAS TO WORK WITH THE
10:28:15AM ADMINISTRATION, THEN WE CAN DECIDE TO EXPAND IT BEYOND THAT.
10:28:17AM BUT THEN IT WOULD SET EXPECTATIONS
10:28:20AM THE THIRD THING, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION, I
10:28:25AM WOULD ASK FOR YOU ALL TO BE OPEN MINDED, I THINK THAT WE
10:28:28AM OUGHT TO LOOK AT, AND MAYBE OUR STAFF INVESTIGATE, PUTTING
10:28:33AM IN A REQUIREMENT OF MAYBE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET ON
10:28:37AM THESE PROJECTS AS PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
10:28:42AM IN ALL GOVERNMENT PARTICULARLY IN TAMPA IS AS THEY HAVE DONE
10:28:45AM PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS, THEY HAVE CUT THE BUDGET ON PUBLIC
10:28:50AM INVOLVEMENT SO A BIG PART OF THE COMMENTS WE GET ARE PEOPLE
10:28:53AM WHO SAY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN NOTICED THAT SOMETHING IS
10:28:55AM HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:28:56AM SOMETIMES THEY HAVE, AND IF THEY DIDN'T SEE IT.
10:29:00AM BUT THERE SHOULD BE MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
10:29:03AM THE WAY YOU AVOID ISSUES LIKE BAY TO BAY WHICH IS IN OUR
10:29:07AM DISTRICT IS HAVING MORE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HAVING MORE
10:29:09AM PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS.
10:29:09AM THE FACT THEY ENDED UP ON BAY TO BAY WAS COMPLETELY
10:29:14AM UNNECESSARY IF WE HAD A BIGGER BUDGET ON IT AND HAD CITY
10:29:17AM STAFF MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:29:18AM NOW WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MONEY, WE'LL HAVE THE MONEY AND
10:29:21AM RESOURCES FOR THE STAFF TO DO THAT.
10:29:25AM MAYBE MRS. DUNCAN OR SOMEONE COULD COME BACK TO US WITH
10:29:28AM ADVICE ON HOW TO SET THAT UP.
10:29:30AM WHAT I HAVE SEEN HAPPEN WITH GOVERNMENTS IS THAT PEOPLE WHO
10:29:33AM BELIEVE IN ENGAGING THE PUBLIC WILL SPEND MONEY ON IT.
10:29:36AM PEOPLE WHO DON'T, DON'T.
10:29:37AM I THINK THIS MAYOR IS INCLINED TO DO THAT.
10:29:39AM AND NOW WITH TRANSPORTATION WE HAVE MONEY TO DO IT, MAYBE WE
10:29:43AM OUGHT TO ENCOURAGE IT SOMEHOW.
10:29:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:29:50AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO SINCE MRS. DUNCAN'S NAME HAS BEEN
10:29:53AM MENTIONED 15 TIMES AND WE.
10:29:54AM HEARD FROM HER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO WHEN I GET DONE, IF
10:29:59AM THAT'S OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO HAVE BEEN SEE IF SHE HAS
10:30:02AM ANY INPUT ON THIS.
10:30:03AM SHE'S BEEN SITTING PATIENTLY.
10:30:04AM NUMBER TWO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO HAVE MR. TERRITO
10:30:10AM COMMENTS, I CAN SEE WHERE SAL IS COMING FROM IN REGARD TO
10:30:14AM THE CLEANER, PERHAPS IF IT'S JUST THE 7 COUNCILMEN.
10:30:20AM HOWEVER, OUT OF SORT OF POLITENESS, OR IN SPIRIT OF
10:30:23AM COOPERATION, AS SOMEBODY SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO PERHAPS
10:30:27AM COUNCIL TO GIVE THAT OPTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY
10:30:31AM WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT TWO GENERAL MEMBERS, NOT A CHAIR, BUT
10:30:35AM TWO GENERAL MEMBERS TO ADD TO OUR SEVEN, AND IF THE
10:30:45AM ADMINISTRATION, OBVIOUSLY WITH LEGAL SANCTION, IS
10:30:47AM COMFORTABLE OR WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THEN MAYBE WE WOULD
10:30:51AM INCLUDE THAT IN OUR PROPOSAL.
10:30:55AM >>SAL TERRITO: I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT SHE DOESN'T.
10:31:03AM YOU CAN ASK HER BUT I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND FROM A LEGAL
10:31:06AM PERSPECTIVE THAT SHE DOESN'T.
10:31:09AM NOTHING SNEAKY GO B THIS.
10:31:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WE HAVE COMMITTEES WHERE WE DO AND WE
10:31:15AM HAVE COMMITTEES WHERE WE DON'T.
10:31:16AM >>SAL TERRITO: THE POLICE OVERSIGHT.
10:31:18AM THAT WAS DONE WITH HEAVY NEGOTIATIONS WHERE THE MAYOR WAS
10:31:22AM GOING TO SET IT UP, WHETHER THE COUNCIL WAS GOING TO SET IT
10:31:24AM UP.
10:31:25AM IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BE MY GUEST.
10:31:27AM IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS.
10:31:29AM SOME OF THE MEMBERS WHO HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN THE PAST, THE
10:31:32AM BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE.
10:31:34AM WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, BEFORE THE BUDGET WAS
10:31:36AM APPROVED, THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND ALL OF THEIR
10:31:40AM RESEARCH, WOULD COME TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THAN A
10:31:42AM RECOMMENDATION, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PROBABLY 90% OF
10:31:45AM THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE ACCEPTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION,
10:31:49AM RECOMMENDATIONS OF PEOPLE OF ON THESE COMMITTEES, WERE VERY
10:31:52AM GOOD AT WHAT THEY DID, THEY WORKED WITH THIS FOR A WHOLE
10:31:55AM YEAR AT THE TIME AND THEY CAME BACK BEFORE COME UP AND MADE
10:31:57AM THEIR PRESENTATION FIRST TO COUNCIL, WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE
10:32:01AM DONE, AND BY THE NEXT BUDGET, ALMOST ALL OF THEIR
10:32:05AM RECOMMENDATIONS WERE APPROVED.
10:32:07AM SO I AM NOT TRYING TO DISSUADE YOU FROM ANYTHING, BUT THAT
10:32:12AM DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ADMINISTRATION, SO YOU KNOW.
10:32:14AM THEY DO LISTEN.
10:32:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:32:21AM AND THAT'S HOW I SEE US MODELING THIS IN THE SAME WAY.
10:32:24AM IT'S NOT SET UP FOR JUST FOR A MONTH OR TWO.
10:32:30AM IT'S A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT.
10:32:34AM BUT AGAIN, AND MAYBE YOU AND I JUST DIFFER LEGALLY, JUST
10:32:37AM BECAUSE THE MAYOR MIGHT APPOINT THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS TO ADD
10:32:41AM TO OUR SEVEN DOESN'T GIVE THEM ANY ADDITIONAL PRIORITY,
10:32:44AM DOESN'T GIVE THE TWO PEOPLE ANY ADDITIONAL ACCESS, DOESN'T
10:32:48AM COMMIT THE MAYOR, THE ADMINISTRATION TO X, Y AND Z.
10:32:55AM IT'S JUST TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
10:32:57AM BUT YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
10:32:59AM I AM JUST SAYING OUT OF POLITENESS, THAT WOULD BE MY
10:33:02AM SUGGESTION.
10:33:02AM AND THEN AS A FOLLOW-UP, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MRS.
10:33:06AM DUNCAN IF SHE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD TO ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS,
10:33:10AM MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:33:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:33:12AM AND COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS BEEN WAITING.
10:33:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY
10:33:30AM WOULD ENTAIL.
10:33:30AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:34:08AM WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR
10:34:13AM CITIZENS, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
10:34:17AM ALL THE FUNDING FOR PROJECTS.
10:34:20AM I THINK IT'S MORE INTERESTING NOW BECAUSE THERE IS MORE
10:34:23AM MONEY TO SPEND.
10:34:24AM CURRENTLY, THE WAY THINGS WORK, I'M SURE SOMEWHERE, WE HAVE
10:34:30AM PROJECTS THAT ARE PROJECTS SUCH AS BAY TO BAY, BIG PROJECTS
10:34:34AM THAT WE HAVE A PUG MEETING ON OUR PROJECT, WE GO OUT AND
10:34:39AM ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC ON THAT PARTICULAR ROADWAY, AND TAKE
10:34:42AM THAT INPUT AND WEAVE IT INTO THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS AND
10:34:46AM DECISIONS.
10:34:47AM WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL PROGRAM CATEGORIES WHICH IS
10:34:50AM SIDEWALKS, STREETLIGHTS, PAVING, THAT ARE NOT AS
10:34:56AM SOPHISTICATED AS THE ROADWAY PROJECTS.
10:34:59AM BUT WE COME UP WITH A LIST OF LOCATIONS BASED ON, FOR
10:35:02AM EXAMPLE, PAVING IS BASED ON THE PAVEMENT CONDITION, WE DON'T
10:35:06AM WANT ROADS TO GET TOO DILAPIDATED AND HAVE TO REBUILD THE
10:35:11AM ENTIRE ROADWAY.
10:35:12AM WE HAVE A TECHNICAL PROCESS TO DETERMINE HOW TO PRIORITIZE
10:35:15AM THE NEED FOR CERTAIN THINGS SUCH AS SIDEWALKS, PAVING AND
10:35:21AM STREETLIGHTING.
10:35:23AM THE STREETLIGHTS, INFORMATION IN THE CASE OF PAVING, WE ARE
10:35:28AM USING THE PAVING CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY, AND IN THE CASE
10:35:31AM OF SIDEWALKS, CONNECTIVITY OF ROADS AND SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE
10:35:36AM WE HAVE A GOOD NETWORK OF CONNECTIVITY FOR THE AREA.
10:35:40AM SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE TAKE THE TECHNICAL PROCESS AND
10:35:43AM PRIORITIZATION AND THEN WEAVING THE PUBLIC INTEREST, THAT
10:35:51AM THE PUBLIC WANTED TO HAVE, AND INFUSE THAT INTO THE OTHER
10:35:55AM PART OF OUR PLANNING.
10:35:56AM SO I AM HOPEFUL THAT TRANSITION TEAM COMING IN TO THE CITY
10:36:04AM PROCESSES, I'M HOPING WE CAN LOOK AT OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
10:36:07AM AND HOW THAT IS SET UP AND DETERMINE WHAT'S A GOOD
10:36:11AM THOUGHTFUL WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NEW MONEY TO TAKE THE
10:36:16AM INPUT AS WELL AS THE OTHER CRITERIA WE HAVE TO USE, AS WELL
10:36:20AM AS COORDINATING.
10:36:22AM A LOT OF TIMES TIMING OF A PROJECT DEPENDS ON THE FACT THAT
10:36:25AM THE WASTEWATER PROJECT, THE TIMING SHIFTS BECAUSE OF THOSE
10:36:30AM FACTORS.
10:36:31AM SOAP THERE'S A LOT OF DYNAMICS THAT COME IN TO PLAY IN
10:36:35AM DETERMINING WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
10:36:36AM BUT CERTAINLY THE PUBLIC INPUT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
10:36:40AM IT JUST ONE OF MANY FACTORS.
10:36:42AM SO I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
10:36:46AM ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO HAVE SOME KIND
10:36:48AM OF STRUCTURED PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
10:36:51AM I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE IN ST. PETE, THEY HAVE A BICYCLE SAFETY
10:36:55AM ACTION COMMITTEE.
10:36:57AM WE CAN CALL IT WHATEVER NAME WE WANT TO CALL IT.
10:36:59AM BUT THEY HAVE A GOOD MODEL OVER THERE FOR PROGRAM
10:37:03AM CATEGORIES, HOW PEOPLE CAN WEIGH IN ON SIDEWALKS, PAVING AND
10:37:08AM STREET LIGHT.
10:37:09AM THEY HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM FOR THE ACTUAL BIGGER PROJECTS
10:37:12AM THAT HAVE AN ANNUAL MEETING FOR THAT PROJECT.
10:37:14AM I THINK WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.
10:37:16AM WE ARE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN GETTING PUBLIC INPUT ON ALL
10:37:18AM THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING.
10:37:20AM WE DO HAVE A BACKLOG OF LOCATIONS WHERE WE NEED TO GO OUT
10:37:24AM AND JUMP OUT AND START DOING SOME WORK.
10:37:27AM SO WE WANT TO GET THIS SET UP WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
10:37:33AM CERTAINLY WHEN THAT MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE WE WANT TO GO
10:37:36AM OUT AND WORK IN MANY AREAS, WHERE THE NEEDS ARE.
10:37:41AM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MONEY TO
10:37:42AM COME ALONG.
10:37:44AM IT'S JUST A PHILOSOPHICAL VIEW ON THIS AND WE ARE HAPPY TO
10:37:49AM MOVE FORWARD IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY, AND AS MR. CARLSON SAID,
10:37:55AM MANAGE THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE PUBLIC.
10:37:57AM THEY TAKE THEIR PRECIOUS TIME TO GET INVOLVED, WHAT ARE THE
10:38:02AM BENEFIT OF THEM AS FAR AS SEEING SOME CREATIVITY COMING OUT
10:38:08AM OF THEIR INPUT.
10:38:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, JUST FOR MY COMMENTS, THIS IS
10:38:14AM SOMETHING THAT I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF.
10:38:16AM SO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, THINK
10:38:21AM DO, I GUESS?
10:38:22AM >> TIM KEYPORTS: REALLY JUST MY IDEA.
10:38:30AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND I JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT WHAT
10:38:34AM CAN WE DO.
10:38:37AM AGAIN A SITUATION OF WORKING WITH BUSINESSES ON THE LOCAL
10:38:39AM CHAMBER IN THE HEIGHT URBAN CORE, PRESIDENT OF THE LARGEST
10:38:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN TAMPA, AND THEY DIDN'T REALIZE
10:38:54AM THAT WE ARE NOT AN HOA.
10:38:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:38:58AM >> TIM KEYPORTS: AND ONE THING WE DO IN A LONG-TERM TAKINGS
10:39:03AM WORKING WITH MRS. DUNCAN'S OFFICE, BECAUSE IN THE BAYSHORE
10:39:06AM INCIDENT, THERE WERE ABOUT -- EIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD
10:39:11AM ASSOCIATIONS THAT ALL MET, AND THEN INTEREST SORT OF WANED,
10:39:17AM UNFORTUNATELY.
10:39:17AM SO THIS WOULD BE A STRUCTURE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE
10:39:19AM CONTINUITY, AND WE CAN TAKE INPUT AND BRING IT TO THE
10:39:23AM INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:39:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: BUT I JUST WANTED TO SALUTE YOU FOR THE
10:39:27AM GENESIS OF THIS, AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:29AM I THINK IT A GREAT THING.
10:39:31AM I THINK -- JUST A BACK TO BASICS APPROACH, WHICH IS POSSIBLE
10:39:40AM BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, THINGS AS BASIC AS SIDEWALKS,
10:39:44AM YOU KNOW, REPAVING STREET, ET.
10:39:48AM LET'S START TO INVEST IN THESE ISSUES, AND WE ARE WILLING
10:39:51AM TOE PAY MORE MONEY FOR IT.
10:39:52AM AND THAT'S I THINK THEIR MESSAGE TO US.
10:39:54AM SO I THINK IT WOULD REALLY BEHOOVE US TO HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT
10:39:59AM BOARD LIKE THIS.
10:40:00AM I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE HAD VERY
10:40:04AM AMBITIOUS MEMBERS WHO ARE NEW, AND THE ONES WHO ARE
10:40:08AM RETURNING, MYSELF INCLUDED, WANT TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND
10:40:12AM WORK HARD AND THIS IS AN EFFORT TO HELP TO DO THAT.
10:40:14AM IF WE CAN'T GET APPOINTMENT FROM THE MAYOR AND WE DECIDE TO
10:40:18AM HAVE SEVEN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT, JUST TO HAVE ONE
10:40:22AM FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
10:40:23AM I WAS LOOKING AT IT LAST NIGHT, AND I THOUGHT THAT I AGREE
10:40:27AM WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES, THAT COUNCIL PICKING A CHAIR KIND OF
10:40:32AM GIVES IT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, A SATELLITE -- IT DON'T WANT
10:40:41AM THAT OBVIOUSLY.
10:40:44AM I DON'T THINK -- I KNOW THERE WAS A REFERENCE, URBAN MAYOR,
10:40:51AM AND THERE BUT ALSO THE SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY.
10:40:55AM I'M THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED COMMITTEE,
10:40:59AM MPO, AND I THINK IT IS ABOUT 70% OF THE PEOPLE WITH
10:41:06AM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY AND WE HAVE ONE IN NINE IN
10:41:09AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO HAVE A DEBT OF SOME SORT.
10:41:11AM YOU TALK TO FOLKS WHETHER IT'S AUTISM, DEVELOPMENTAL
10:41:15AM DISABILITY, CEREBRAL PALSY, WHETHER THEY ARE BLIND,
10:41:19AM SUFFERING FROM A FRACTURE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, DISABILITY IN
10:41:23AM TRANSPORTATION, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THE REASON IN MY PUBLIC
10:41:33AM CAREER, WE HAVE THAT DEBATE SO A LAWYER CAN HUNTER'S GREEN
10:41:36AM CAN CUT DOWN HIS COMMUTE FROM 50 MINUTES TO 40 MINUTES, BUT
10:41:42AM RATHER BECAUSE OF THAT SINGLE MOM RAISING KID AS LOOKING TO
10:41:48AM CUTTING HER COMMUTE SO SHE CAN SPEND MORE TIME AT WORK, MORE
10:41:51AM TIME WITH HER KID, ET CETERA, AND I THINK DISABILITY GOES
10:41:54AM 110%.
10:41:55AM I SEE THIS AS A RESOURCE FOR CITY COUNCIL, A RESOURCE FOR US
10:41:58AM TO USE.
10:42:00AM WE CAN MEET WITH OUR MEMBERS.
10:42:02AM WE CAN MEET WITH INDIVIDUALS JUST LIKE THE CAC WITH THE MPO.
10:42:06AM THE BOARD WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN I THINK FROM WHAT THE
10:42:09AM MPO DOES.
10:42:10AM WE ARE LOOKING AT SUGGESTIONS OVER HERE.
10:42:12AM AND I ALSO HOPE -- AND I KNOW YOU ALL AGREE WITH US THAT WE
10:42:16AM ALSO HAVE A BOARD THAT REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY,
10:42:19AM 110%.
10:42:21AM WE ARE LOOKING BACK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE HAVE TO
10:42:24AM LOOK FOR PLEURALISM AND DIVERSITY IN THAT REGARD.
10:42:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE LAST WORD, BUT I JUST
10:42:27AM WANT TO TOUCH ON CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS, THAT THIS IS
10:42:38AM GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SUNSHINE LAW.
10:42:41AM AND COUNCILMAN GUDES AND CARLSON, WE DISCUSSED -- I DON'T
10:42:44AM KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER -- ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WE
10:42:48AM HAD PLANNED FOR THE NEXT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, AND THE
10:42:52AM TRANSPARENCY BE THE KEY.
10:42:54AM WE HAVE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP
10:42:57AM FROM LAST MONTH THAT HOPEFULLY THIS ADVISORY BOARD WILL HAVE
10:43:03AM A PLACE TO MEET, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THIS CHAMBERS, WILL ALSO
10:43:06AM BE ABLE TO HAVE A BUDGET SO THAT IT WILL BE ON CTTV, SO THAT
10:43:12AM PEOPLE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE TRANSPARENCY
10:43:16AM OF THIS ADVISORY BOARD.
10:43:17AM SO I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THIS.
10:43:20AM >>CHAIRMAN VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:43:22AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:24AM THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:43:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
10:43:29AM DIRECTING MR. SHELBY TO COME BACK, I DON'T KNOW, END OF
10:43:34AM AUGUST.
10:43:34AM HOW MUCH TIME?
10:43:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF COUNCIL WISHES, THE JULY 18th
10:43:41AM MEETING OR THE AUGUST 1st MEETING.
10:43:43AM BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE MAYOR'S BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT DAY,
10:43:45AM TOO. COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
10:43:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 18.
10:43:50AM IT WOULD BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
10:43:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:43:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT
10:43:56AM MR. SHELBY STUDY THIS AND THEN COME BACK WITH FURTHER
10:43:58AM DETAILS AND OPTIONS AND INFORMATION AT THE JULY 18 MEETING
10:44:02AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10:44:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW YOU LOVE WORKING WITH
10:44:10AM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY.
10:44:12AM AND I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, I THINK YOU NEED TWO AT-LARGE,
10:44:21AM AND SPECIAL NEEDS. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO GO.
10:44:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
10:44:28AM WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE HERE.
10:44:30AM I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK OF THAT WOMAN WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE,
10:44:35AM KAREN CLAY, AND THINK ABOUT WHAT SHE BRINGS TO THE TABLE.
10:44:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:44:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:44:45AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:44:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:48AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:44:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
10:44:59AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:45:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT MR. SHELBY COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT
10:45:08AM THE JULY 18th MEETING UNDER STAFF REPORTS TO LOOK AT AND
10:45:11AM PRESENT OPTIONS FOR THIS BOARD AND PROVIDING OTHER
10:45:16AM INFORMATION.
10:45:19AM OH, THE NAME OF THE BOARD, CITIZENS TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY.
10:45:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:29AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:45:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:45:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:45:33AM THANK YOU.
10:45:34AM THANK YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:45:36AM THANK YOU.
10:45:37AM >> ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE VOTES ON
10:45:44AM WORKSHOPS?
10:45:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON THIS
10:45:47AM WORKSHOP ITEM?
10:45:50AM THERE BEING NONE, THE VOTE STANDS.
10:45:55AM NEXT WE MOVE ONTO ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:46:06AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY. I
10:46:06AM APOLOGIZE I'M A LITTLE SICKLY.
10:46:11AM WE HAVE THE JANUARY TEXT CYCLE, A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS.
10:46:15AM WE ARE ASKING FOR TRANSMISSION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:46:20AM A QUICK REFERENCE FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEW, FOR THE
10:46:26AM COMMENTS PORTION, TWO CYCLES PER YEAR.
10:46:28AM WE COME FORWARD IN A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE AMENDMENTS.
10:46:32AM SO THEY ARE PRIVATELY INITIATED FROM AN OUTSIDE PARTY, TO
10:46:35AM AMEND CHAPTER 27, OR PUBLICLY INITIATED BY THE ZONING
10:46:38AM ADMINISTRATOR, OR SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS US TO
10:46:41AM PUT INTO THE AMENDMENT FOR THAT CYCLE.
10:46:45AM WE COME FORWARD WITH THAT PACKAGE.
10:46:51AM I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
10:46:55AM AND IN YOUR DISCRETION, THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENTS,
10:46:58AM WHETHER OR NOT YOU TRANSMIT THEM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
10:47:03AM FOR RECOMMENDATION AT A PUBLIC HEARING, OR TO CONTINUE
10:47:06AM CERTAIN ONES TO ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR SIMPLY TABLE THEM OR
10:47:12AM WITHDRAW THEM, REMOVE THEM FROM THE CYCLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T
10:47:14AM WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM AND NOT TRANSMIT THEM.
10:47:16AM ON THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE
10:47:19AM ANY IN THIS CYCLE, THOSE ARE AMENDMENTS AGAIN, A THIRD PARTY
10:47:23AM OUTSIDE THE CITY HAS PAID FILING FEES AND MADE APPLICATION
10:47:27AM TO AMEND THE CODE.
10:47:28AM SO IF THOSE COME FORWARD, THOSE DO NEED TO BE TRANSMITTED.
10:47:33AM I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
10:47:34AM SO THE NEXT CYCLE THERE COULD BE PRIVATELY INITIATED
10:47:38AM AMENDMENTS.
10:47:38AM I'LL PRESENT THEM.
10:47:40AM WE CAN DISCUSS THEM.
10:47:41AM THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE.
10:47:45AM MAYBE THE LANGUAGE WILL BE TWEAKED BEFORE IT'S TRANSMITTED.
10:47:48AM BUT THOSE DO GET TRANSMITTED REGARDLESS.
10:47:50AM IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THEM WHEN THEY COME
10:47:52AM BACK.
10:47:53AM AFTER IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:47:54AM THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK IN ORDINANCE FORM AND IT GOES UP THERE
10:47:57AM A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:48:00AM TWO READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE.
10:48:02AM AND THAT'S YOUR DECISION AT THAT POINT WHETHER YOU ARE GOING
10:48:03AM TO APPROVE OR DENY.
10:48:04AM THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL PROCESS. I WILL REMIND YOU THAT
10:48:10AM STAFF TYPICALLY LAYS OUT YOUR OPTIONS, WHAT MOTIONS YOU CAN
10:48:16AM FOLLOW, WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOING TO TRANSMIT.
10:48:16AM AND STAFF WILL ALWAYS BE HERE TO HELP YOU THROUGH THE
10:48:21AM AMENDMENTS.
10:48:29AM THIS IS ALL WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
10:48:30AM DO WITH THEM.
10:48:31AM THE FIRST ONE, PAGE 1 OF THE TWO-PAGES, ACTUALLY WAS A CITY
10:48:37AM COUNCIL INITIATED AMENDMENT, THE JUNE 7th AGENDA LAST
10:48:42AM YEAR, AND I INCLUDED AN EXCERPT OF THE TRANSCRIPT. THE
10:48:46AM DISCUSSION AT THAT POINT WAS THE TEN ACRE REQUIREMENT
10:48:48AM BECAUSE ON THE KENNELS, SMALL AND LARGE, THERE IS A LIMIT ON
10:48:51AM ANIMALS, IN TABLE 6-1, 282.25. THERE'S A LIMIT ON THE SMALL
10:48:59AM KENNELS, AND THOSE SMALL KENNELS ARE IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL
10:49:01AM DISTRICTS.
10:49:02AM SO THOSE ARE THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE KIND
10:49:04AM OF EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY, BACK UP AGAINST A LOT OF
10:49:05AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:49:22AM THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE ALLOWED 11 TO 20 ANIMALS FOR
10:49:26AM SMALL KENNELS.
10:49:27AM THE PROVISION IN THE TABLE, THE ONE ADDITIONAL ACRE FOR
10:49:30AM EVERY TEN ANIMALS, THAT WAS A CARRYOVER.
10:49:34AM THIS WAS AMENDED SEVERAL YEARS BACK FROM AN OLD PROVISION IN
10:49:36AM CHAPTER 19.
10:49:37AM THAT PARTICULAR COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADVISED CHANGE. IT
10:50:17AM CAME UP IN CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
10:50:19AM SO WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE THAT CHANGE.
10:50:21AM THE OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU SEE REALLY ARE STRUCTURAL TO THE
10:50:24AM TABLE.
10:50:25AM THE TABLE ITSELF IS TABLE 6-1 IN THE CODE.
10:50:27AM AND IF YOU NOTED ON PAGE 2, THE NEXT SECTION OF CODE FOR
10:50:32AM LARGE KENNELS, THAT'S THE SECTION NUMBER. 6-1, SO IT'S A
10:50:38AM RENUMBERING TO MATCH UP WITH THE SECTION NUMBER.
10:50:39AM WE HAD COMMENTS ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SIDE WITH THE LEGAL
10:50:42AM REPRESENTATIVE THERE THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LETTER
10:50:45AM REFERENCES AND NUMBER REFERENCES.
10:50:48AM THAT'S WHY WE LABEL EACH COLUMN WITH A, B, C.
10:50:51AM IT'S EASIER TO CITE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT CITATIONS FOR NOTICE
10:50:54AM PURPOSES.
10:50:55AM AND THIS IS A GENERAL CLEAN-UP OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE
10:50:58AM SPECIFIC STANDARDS SO THAT WHEN THERE'S GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
10:51:02AM MEETING FLORIDA GAME AND FRESHWATER FISH COMMISSION
10:51:05AM REGULATIONS AND SO ON THAT THEY ARE SIMPLY FOOTNOTES.
10:51:14AM IT GETS MORE CONDENSED AND MORE CLEAR READING.
10:51:16AM PAGE 2, LARGE KENNEL.
10:51:17AM SAME STRUCTURAL CHANGES.
10:51:20AM THE REMOVAL IN THE CENTER OF KIND OF THE MIDDLE LINE OF THE
10:51:24AM TABLE, THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, IS THE REMOVAL OF THE ONE
10:51:26AM ACRE FOR TEN ANIMALS AS COUNCIL DIRECTED.
10:51:32AM ON THE LARGE KENNELS, THOSE ARE ONLY GOING TO BE ALLOWED IN
10:51:35AM THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE DISTRICTS AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
10:51:42AM THEY ARE ZONED FOR MUCH MORE INTENSE ACTIVITIES, SO THEY ARE
10:51:44AM PERMITTED TO HAVE LARGE KENNELS MORE ANIMALS.
10:51:47AM AS MANY AS THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE BASED ON THE COUNTY AND
10:51:48AM STATE REGULATIONS.
10:51:57AM THIS IS BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTED.
10:51:59AM I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW OR MOVE ONTO THE SECOND
10:52:02AM AMENDMENT.
10:52:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE MRS. COYLE
10:52:07AM MOVES ON TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT?
10:52:11AM GO AHEAD.
10:52:29AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ARGUABLY YOU CAN HAVE TEN DOGS IN
10:52:31AM KENNELS OUTSIDE WITHIN TEN FEET OF YOUR NEIGHBOR.
10:52:43AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: WE DON'T USE THE WORD KENNEL IN THAT WAY.
10:52:47AM THEY ARE RUNS OR PENS.
10:52:48AM THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE.
10:52:50AM THAT'S CORRECT.
10:52:50AM AND THEN THE SEPARATION.
10:52:54AM >> HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO WHAT'S ALLOWED NOW?
10:52:57AM OR IS THE IT THE SAME THING?
10:53:00AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: DISTANCES ARE THE SAME.
10:53:03AM IF THE LANGUAGE IS NOT UNDERLINED IT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
10:53:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE QUANTITY?
10:53:08AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: QUANTITY IS THE SAME, 11 TO 20 IN SMALL
10:53:11AM KENNELS.
10:53:20AM IF YOU HAD TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ACRE OF LAND FOR ADDITIONAL
10:53:24AM TEN ANIMALS.
10:53:25AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AN ADDITIONAL WHAT?
10:53:27AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: TEN ANIMALS.
10:53:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE THAT.
10:53:32AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: I'M SORRY.
10:53:33AM ONE ACRE.
10:53:34AM YOU CAN SEE ON THE CG PROPERTIES, IF YOU CAN PICTURE ALL THE
10:53:35AM CORRIDORS WE HAVE IN THE CITY WITH COMMERCIAL GENERAL, ALONG
10:53:40AM DALE MABRY AND SOUTH TAMPA, FOR INSTANCE, COMMERCIAL
10:53:42AM GENERAL, THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT VERY DEEP.
10:53:45AM THEY GO IN TO RENOVATE A PORTION OF THAT BUILDING TO PUT IN
10:53:48AM A DOGGY DAYCARE, AND THEY CAN SIT 20 ANIMALS, IN THE AREA
10:53:55AM THEY HAVE OUTSIDE.
10:53:56AM THEY NEED TO TAKE OVER A BIGGER PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
10:54:00AM THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE SPACE FOR ALL OF THEM AT THE
10:54:05AM SAME TIME.
10:54:05AM THEY CAN GO IN AND OUT WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS OF ANIMALS.
10:54:08AM NOW IF THEY TAKE OVER A LARGER AND THEY CAN PHYSICALLY FIT
10:54:12AM MORE ANIMALS BASED ON COUNTY AND STATE REGULATIONS, BUT OUR
10:54:15AM RULE SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ACRE JUST TO ADD
10:54:18AM ONE MORE ANIMAL ABOVE 20.
10:54:21AM AND I THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED.
10:54:24AM THE DOGGY DAYCARE IS IN TIGHTER AREAS WITH SMALLER
10:54:24AM CORRIDORS, WHERE THERE'S BUILDING ROOMS TO RETROFIT THE
10:54:31AM BUILDINGS.
10:54:32AM THERE'S NO LAND AVAILABLE TO MEET THAT PROVISION.
10:54:42AM SO THEY ARE STUCK.
10:54:44AM I THINK THAT WAS WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WAS DISCUSSING.
10:54:45AM >> SO THIS IS STRICTLY AN OUTDOOR ISSUE, NOT WHAT THEY CAN
10:54:45AM DO INSIDE?
10:54:52AM >> IT'S REALLY A LAND ISSUE, QUALITY OF LAND, WHETHER INDOOR
10:54:52AM OR OUTDOOR.
10:55:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THIS IS STRICTLY AN OUTDOOR ISSUE, NOT
10:55:05AM WHAT THEY CAN DO INSIDE?
10:55:07AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: IT'S REALLY A LAND ISSUE.
10:55:13AM WHETHER IT'S INDOOR OR OUTDOOR.
10:55:15AM THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL LAND TO HAVE THAT ACREAGE TO SUPPORT
10:55:17AM MORE ANIMALS, SO THIS PROVISION ALONE -- IT HAS NOTHING TO
10:55:21AM DO WITH WHETHER THEY CAN KEEP THE ANIMALS PHYSICALLY.
10:55:25AM WE JUST HAVE THE PROVISION THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXTRA LAND
10:55:28AM FOR MORE ANIMALS.
10:55:30AM REALLY FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN THAT'S THE OLD RULE.
10:55:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT SEEMS TO ME -- AND I DON'T KNOW MUCH
10:55:38AM ABOUT DOGGIE DAYCARE BUSINESS --
10:55:42AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THERE'S A LOT OF THEM, YEAH.
10:55:47AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST CAMERAS AND MUSIC.
10:55:48AM BUT ANYWAY, JUST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS,
10:55:54AM SOMETIMES THE TABLES ARE CONFUSING.
10:55:57AM I WOULD ASSUME A LOT OF THESE DOGGIE DAYCARES ARE DOING MORE
10:56:02AM THAN TEN ANIMALS AT A TIME.
10:56:03AM >> IN THESE SMALL FACILITIES THEY ARE ALLOWED UP TO 20.
10:56:10AM IF THEY HAVE 21, THE WAY OUR RULE WORKS, IS THEY HAVE TO
10:56:13AM COME UP WITH AN EXTRA ACRE OF LAND FOR THE SAME ZONING
10:56:16AM DISTRICT.
10:56:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO 20 IS THE THRESHOLD.
10:56:21AM HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE INDUSTRY PRACTICES RIGHT NOW?
10:56:26AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THAT'S THE ISSUE, THAT 20 ISN'T ENOUGH.
10:56:28AM THE INDUSTRY SEEMS TO BE CHANGING TO WHERE THERE'S MORE THAN
10:56:31AM 20.
10:56:31AM THE FACILITIES ARE GETTING BIGGER BECAUSE THERE'S MORE
10:56:34AM DEMAND.
10:56:35AM THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
10:56:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION IS FROM A SMALL BUSINESS
10:56:42AM PERSPECTIVE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IF THEY ARE
10:56:44AM INSIDE, AND IT'S AIR CONDITIONED AND CLEAN, AND SAN INFORM
10:56:49AM AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHY DO I CARE IF THEY EXCEED 20?
10:56:56AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THAT'S THE POINT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
10:56:59AM THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WHY IT'S BEING STRICKEN.
10:57:02AM BECAUSE THEY ARE INSIDE.
10:57:03AM IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.
10:57:05AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:57:06AM SO THE ONE YOU ARE PROPOSING, THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET
10:57:09AM AT, IS THE ONE YOU ARE PROPOSING.
10:57:10AM THE ONE YOU ARE PROPOSING WOULD NOT HAVE A LIMITATION?
10:57:14AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE
10:57:17AM REQUIREMENT.
10:57:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:57:20AM SO THEY COULD HAVE -- WHAT WOULD THE LIMIT BE?
10:57:28AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
10:57:32AM IF THE PROVISION IS THERE, IT'S A LIMIT OF 20.
10:57:34AM THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD.
10:57:41AM WHAT IS THE LIMIT?
10:57:42AM WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE?
10:57:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM THE
10:57:47AM INDUSTRY?
10:57:49AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE COMMENTS I THINK WERE AROUND 30 OR
10:57:52AM 35, THE ONE GROUP THAT WAS COME IN.
10:57:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I CAN SEE FROM A
10:57:57AM NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE IS THAT YOU ARE TAKING CARE OF ON A
10:58:01AM DAILY BASIS JUST LIKE CHILD DAYCARE.
10:58:05AM THE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP.
10:58:07AM SO IF YOU GET TOO MANY, MAYBE I DON'T CARE WHAT IS ACTUALLY
10:58:10AM HAPPENING IN THAT BUILDING, BUT IN TERMS OF DROP-OFF AND
10:58:13AM PICKUP, IT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE 50 OR 100, THEN ALL
10:58:18AM OF A SUDDEN MAYBE YOU HAVE PEOPLE LINING UP, YOU KNOW, OR
10:58:22AM DROP-OFF AND PICKUP, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:58:26AM WANTS EITHER.
10:58:28AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE PARKING RATIOS DEFINITELY GO ALONG
10:58:30AM WITH THAT.
10:58:31AM THERE IS A LIMIT BECAUSE THE LAND ARE -- SPACE IS LIMITED TO
10:58:34AM ADD MORE PARKING EVEN.
10:58:35AM SO THEY CAN ALWAYS GET SO MANY PARKING SPACES ON THOSE
10:58:39AM PROPERTIES ANYWAY.
10:58:40AM AND THAT WOULD LIMIT HOW BIG IT CAN BE, WHICH THEN RESTRICTS
10:58:45AM THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS.
10:58:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:58:49AM THANK YOU.
10:58:50AM IS IT DUE TO OPERATIONS?
10:58:55AM AND INCLUDING VETERINARIANS, YOU KNOW, VETS HAVE BEEN AROUND
10:59:01AM FOREVER, WITH THEIR OPERATIONS.
10:59:07AM ON KENNEDY, THEY HAVE MY DOGS BACK IN THE 50s AND 60s
10:59:12AM AND THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND I THINK SINCE THE 50s.
10:59:16AM WHAT SORT OF GRANDFATHERING IS IT?
10:59:19AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED.
10:59:20AM IT THAT WE ARE EXPANDING THE AMOUNT POTENTIALLY.
10:59:24AM SO WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM LEGALLY, POTENTIALLY, IF
10:59:29AM THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE MORE ANIMALS.
10:59:35AM THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STAY AT NIGHT, THE SMALL ONES.
10:59:37AM IT'S FOR GROOMING.
10:59:39AM THE LARGE KENNELS ARE THE ONES ON KENNEDY ARE ACTUALLY AN
10:59:45AM INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT.
10:59:47AM IT'S JUST THAT --
10:59:54AM I GUESS EXTRA ACREAGE OF LAND, IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL.
11:00:05AM IF COUNCIL BELIEVES IT'S EASIER TO GET RID OF THAT EXTRA
11:00:08AM ACRE.
11:00:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:00:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED TO SIT BACK AND UNDERSTAND THE
11:00:17AM WHOLE THING.
11:00:20AM REGARDING ZONING AREA, THE VARIOUS CAPABILITIES OF PEOPLE
11:00:24AM USE TO LEAVE THEIR DOGS SOMEWHERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY GO
11:00:28AM ON VACATION.
11:00:29AM IT MIGHT BE FOR A WEEK OR TEN DAYS.
11:00:31AM THEY MIGHT HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE OR FOUR DOGS OR FIVE CATS
11:00:35AM AND FOUR DOGS, AND REGARDING GROOMING, IN A GROOMING AREA,
11:00:39AM SALON, I HAVE NEVER TAKEN MY DOG TO THE GROOMING.
11:00:42AM I DON'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW.
11:00:44AM WHAT IS IT THAT IS REQUIRED THERE?
11:00:48AM AND FOR TRAINING.
11:00:49AM WHEN YOU TRAIN A DOG ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL IT'S ONE DOG AT
11:00:52AM A TIME.
11:00:52AM IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE, ANY RAMIFICATION OF ZONING, LAWS,
11:00:58AM SIZE OF STRUCTURE?
11:00:59AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: NOT IN THE ZONING LAWS, NO.
11:01:01AM WE DON'T CONTROL IF THE PLUMBING ISSUES OR THE HEALTH
11:01:05AM DEPARTMENT CERTIFICATIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION, SEWER,
11:01:08AM REQUIREMENTS OR NEIGHBORHOOD OR REGULATIONS. WE DON'T HAVE
11:01:12AM ANY REGULATIONS FOR TRAINING OR HOW MUCH AREA THEY HAVE TO
11:01:15AM TRAIN OR WHAT TYPE OF CERTIFICATIONS.
11:01:17AM ALL THAT IS LEFT TO --
11:01:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND YOU MENTIONED DOGS.
11:01:27AM IS IT JUST TO DOGS?
11:01:29AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: NO.
11:01:30AM THAT FITS UNDER FARM ANIMAL IN OUR DEFINITION.
11:01:34AM SO NO.
11:01:35AM HOPEFULLY THEY WOULDN'T BE DROPPING A HORSE AT A DAYCARE.
11:01:38AM BUT MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW.
11:01:53AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: I MOVE ON TO AMENDMENT 2.
11:01:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY CONCERN IS BEING A PERSON, THEY
11:02:01AM HAVE TONS OF ANIMALS, TONS AND TONS.
11:02:04AM MY CONCERN IS, HAVE WE RESEARCHED AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE
11:02:09AM ACTUAL LIMIT?
11:02:10AM YOU SAY 30.
11:02:19AM BUT IS THAT THE STANDARD NOW?
11:02:22AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: WHAT HAPPENS FROM THE COUNTY AND STATE
11:02:24AM REGULATIONS IS THAT YOU BACK INTO THAT NUMBER BY THE AMOUNT
11:02:26AM OF SPACE YOU PHYSICALLY HAVE.
11:02:28AM WE CAN SET AN OVERALL CAP FOR WHATEVER IT IS IN REZONING AND
11:02:32AM USE PURPOSES AND THEY CAN TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT NUMBER.
11:02:34AM BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AREA TO ACTUALLY DO IT IN THE
11:02:37AM BUILDING OR THE OUTDOOR PENS, THEN THEY CAN ONLY ACHIEVE A
11:02:41AM CERTAIN PORTION OF THAT.
11:02:42AM IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH AREA OR ENOUGH SPACE, AND THEY CAN
11:02:47AM ACHIEVE WHATEVER CAP YOU SAID, THEN THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE
11:02:50AM OKAY BECAUSE THEY WOULD MEET THOSE STANDARD.
11:02:54AM DAYCARE FOR KID, I THINK YOU ARE ALLOWED 30 OR 35 SQUARE
11:02:58AM FEET PER KID.
11:02:59AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE INDOOR OUTDOOR.
11:03:00AM AND YOU HAVE TO BACK INTO THAT NUMBER.
11:03:02AM PROPERTIES ARE ONLY SO BIG.
11:03:04AM BUILDINGS ARE ONLY SO BIG.
11:03:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PAGES PER KID?
11:03:07AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:03:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH KID THERE'S ALWAYS COMING TO SEE THE
11:03:15AM NUMBER OF KID IN THAT SPACE.
11:03:17AM SO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE TO DO THAT AS WELL?
11:03:21AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: WE DON'T REGULATE THAT.
11:03:22AM THAT'S AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THROUGH ANIMAL SERVICES.
11:03:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
11:03:26AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: SO THOSE INSPECTIONS HAPPEN THERE.
11:03:28AM WE WOULD BE INSPECTING CODE ENFORCEMENT LAWS TO SEE IF THEY
11:03:31AM EXCEED THE CAP FOR OUR PURPOSES.
11:03:33AM SO MAYBE OUR CAP IS THE 20.
11:03:37AM BUT ON THE COUNTY SIDE, UNDER THE ANIMAL SERVICES RULES,
11:03:40AM THEY ACTUALLY CAN BE FIT 58 LEGALLY BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH
11:03:43AM AREA FOR SANITATION PURPOSES AND DOG SPACE, WHATEVER ELSE IT
11:03:47AM IS, THEY HAVE ENOUGH PHYSICAL SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE 58.
11:03:50AM THEY PUT 58 IN.
11:03:51AM THE ZONING, THE CITY CONTROLS THE CAP, FOR USE PURPOSES.
11:03:55AM WE SET IT AT 20.
11:03:56AM THAT'S A CITY VIOLATION.
11:03:58AM THAT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
11:04:14AM AND IT'S REALLY WE DON'T CONTROL THE REGULATIONS FOR THAT
11:04:20AM SPACES FOR ANIMALS.
11:04:21AM WE DON'T DO THAT WORK.
11:04:33AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:04:36AM ITEM NUMBER 2.
11:04:39AM PAGE 2.
11:04:41AM THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD JUST TO DEAL WITH THE HEIGHT
11:04:44AM DEFINITION.
11:04:44AM THE DEFINITION OF HEIGHT RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE, IT'S THE
11:04:52AM VERT ELEVATION.
11:05:07AM IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
11:05:09AM THAT THE THAT IS THE PEAK OF THE ROOF.
11:05:23AM THE HIGHEST STRUCTURE.
11:05:27AM SOME JURISDICTIONS DO IT TO THE TOP.
11:05:33AM RIGHT NOW, THE WAY WE HAVE THE FEMA FLOOD A MAP, AND THIS IS
11:05:40AM WHAT I GAVE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE,
11:06:00AM HOWEVER COUNCIL WANTS TO GO WITH THIS.
11:06:02AM THE FLOOD MAPS ARE CHANGING.
11:06:05AM AND THEY ARE PENDING.
11:06:08AM THEY ARE GOING TO COME ANYTIME.
11:06:10AM PUBLIC HEARINGS, EVERYTHING ELSE, OUR STAFF HAS BEEN
11:06:14AM TRAINED, SPREAD INFORMATION, DONE WORKSHOPS.
11:06:18AM SO WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THESE
11:06:21AM MAPS.
11:06:24AM IF YOU NOTICE THIS IS A SEGMENT OF DAVIS ISLANDS, AND I
11:06:27AM PULLED THIS ONE AS AN EXAMPLE FOR YOU.
11:06:29AM ANYWHERE ALONG THE COASTLINE ALONG THE BAY, EVEN THE MOUTH
11:06:34AM OF THE RIVER, ANYPLACE YOU GET STORM SURGE, ANYWHERE IN THE
11:06:38AM FLOODPLAINS, THESE ZONES EXIST.
11:06:45AM WIND, STORM SURGE, AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER BASE
11:06:48AM ELEVATION.
11:06:49AM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THEIR BUILDINGS HIGHER.
11:06:53AM ULTIMATELY, SO THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T COME IN.
11:06:59AM YOU HAVE TO LIFT IT UP.
11:07:01AM SO THE VELOCITY ZONE ON THIS SIDE, THIS IS THE CURRENT MAP
11:07:04AM WE HAVE RATE NOW.
11:07:05AM THIS IS A PORTION OF DAVIS ISLAND.
11:07:07AM THE VELOCITY ZONE IS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE ISLAND.
11:07:16AM THIS IS RIGHT ON THE EVENLY RIGHT THERE.
11:07:18AM SO IT'S CUTS SOME HOUSES IN HALF ESSENTIALLY.
11:07:24AM THE NEW MAP -- AND THIS IS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL, SO
11:07:28AM WE HAVE NO OPTIONS.
11:07:30AM THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
11:07:36AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE HAD ELEVATION OF ONE FOOT ABOVE
11:07:40AM THE BASE ELEVATION.
11:07:42AM SO EXISTING GRADE.
11:07:46AM TEN FEET ABOVE.
11:07:50AM BUILDING CODE.
11:07:52AM THAT'S YOUR DESIGN.
11:07:53AM SO NOW YOU ARE 11 FEET UP, RIGHT?
11:07:57AM THE NEW MAP IS CHANGING TO 16.
11:08:00AM SO NOW ACTUALLY 6 FEET ABOVE THAT.
11:08:05AM REMEMBER IF YOU ARE MEASURING OVERALL HEIGHT IN OUR ZONING
11:08:08AM DISTRICT TO BUILD TO GRADE, AND NOW TAKING AWAY ALL OF THAT
11:08:12AM AREA, NOW TAKING ANOTHER 6 FEET AWAY, MY CAP IS 35 FEET, YOU
11:08:18AM END UP BUILDING OBVIOUSLY.
11:08:23AM IT'S 16 PLUS THE ONE WHICH IS 17 FEET.
11:08:26AM AND TAMPA AE ZONE, THE NEXT LEVEL IN, IS CHANGING FROM 10 TO
11:08:31AM 12 SO IT'S AN EXTRA TWO FEET.
11:08:35AM TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE VELOCITY ZONE, THIS IS ONE OF
11:08:42AM THE GRAPHICS SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC AND THE INDUSTRY, AND
11:08:48AM USE THIS TO EXPLAIN IT.
11:08:52AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PIER SYSTEM ESSENTIALLY.
11:08:56AM THIS IS ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
11:08:59AM THE EXISTING GRADE IS AT 6 FEET.
11:09:01AM SO THE GRADE ISN'T ZERO.
11:09:05AM IT'S THE NUMBER OF FEET ABOVE THE MEAN SEA LEVEL.
11:09:08AM SO SEA LEVEL IS ZERO.
11:09:10AM GRADE IS 6.
11:09:14AM SITTING 6 FEET ABOVE.
11:09:19AM YOU START YOUR MEASUREMENT FOR BUILDING HEIGHT AT THE GRADE,
11:09:23AM THE WAY WE REGULATE IT.
11:09:24AM NOW 35 FEET ABOVE THAT, WHICH IS 41 FEET ABOVE GRADE.
11:09:29AM IN THE CURRENT CODE, AS I MENTIONED, ON THE CURRENT MAP,
11:09:33AM IT'S TEN FEET PLUS THE ONE, WHICH IS 17 FROM 41.
11:09:41AM THE 17 FROM 41 IN THE CURRENT RULES, YOU WOULD BE LEFT WITH
11:09:47AM 30 FEET OF FULL BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 THE WAY IT'S MEASURED.
11:09:55AM THE WAY THE CURRENT RULE, OR THE FUTURE RULE WORKS FROM FEMA
11:10:00AM IS NOW YOU ARE 17 FEET UP TO HERE, SO THAT ACTUALLY REDUCES
11:10:03AM IT TO 24 FEET OVERALL, BUILDABLE, HABITABLE HEIGHT.
11:10:09AM ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENS IF WE STAY WITH THE 35-FOOT HEIGHT
11:10:13AM LIMIT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN THESE ZONES, THEN YOU ARE
11:10:16AM REDUCING WHAT BUILDERS ARE DOING NOW IS AT 30 FEET AND THEY
11:10:20AM ARE ABLE TO PUT IN TWO STORIES, AND ARE ALSO ABLE TO HAVE --
11:10:30AM NOW THERE'S ENOUGH HEIGHT TO HAVE A RISE, THE VERY TOP.
11:10:35AM IF WE TAKE THAT DOWN TO 24 FEET, ACTUALLY, IT IS TAKEN DOWN
11:10:40AM TO 24 FEET IF WE DON'T ADJUST THE DEFINITION, THAT 24 FEET,
11:10:46AM THAT IS ESSENTIALLY TWO STORIES, PERIOD.
11:10:49AM AND WHAT THE EFFECT IS -- IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE DEFINITION
11:10:58AM OF HEIGHT.
11:10:58AM SO THE DEFINITION OF HEIGHTS, KEEP IT THE SAME IT IS TODAY,
11:11:03AM GRADE TO THE TOP, OR IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT
11:11:06AM AND START MEASURING HEIGHT FROM THE REQUIRED FINISHED FLOOR.
11:11:15AM THIS IS BEING DONE TO THEM, THE ADDITIONAL ELEVATION IS
11:11:18AM BEING DONE TO US BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN CHANGES.
11:11:24AM THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ABSORB
11:11:27AM THAT 6 FEET AND ALLOW THAT MEASUREMENT TO HAPPEN FROM HERE,
11:11:30AM OR IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT HERE.
11:11:37AM YOU CAN DISCUSS AMONG YOURSELVES, ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
11:11:40AM I KNOW THERE ARE BUILDERS AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT
11:11:42AM WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL.
11:11:44AM AND MS. MORA IS HERE TO DISCUSS AS WELL.
11:11:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH DISCUSS, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN
11:11:52AM DONE ON THIS?
11:11:55AM DO THE RESIDENTS KNOW THIS IS COMING AND WHAT'S THEIR
11:11:58AM FEEDBACK?
11:11:59AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THEY DO KNOW, THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL KNOWS
11:12:01AM ABOUT THE FEMA CHANGES AND WHAT THAT DOES.
11:12:10AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THAT.
11:12:14AM AS FAR AS I AM AWARE, EVERYONE REALIZES IT'S CAUSING -- AND
11:12:21AM ULTIMATELY IT'S YOUR DECISION.
11:12:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: HAS THERE BEEN A SPECIFIC DISCUSSION WITH
11:12:27AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO TALK ABOUT THIS HEIGHT
11:12:29AM INCREASE?
11:12:30AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: ABOUT THE ELEVATION INCREASE?
11:12:37AM YOU MEAN TAMPA CODE AMENDMENT ITSELF?
11:12:40AM NO, NOT THIS CODE AMENDMENT.
11:12:42AM NO ULTIMATELY IF YOU TRANSMIT IT.
11:12:45AM IT IS TRULY YOUR DECISION AT THIS POINT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO
11:12:47AM WITH IT.
11:12:48AM IF YOU DO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, I WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC
11:12:51AM INFORMATION WORKSHOP FOR PEOPLE TO DISCUSS IT AND GO THROUGH
11:12:53AM THE OPTIONS AND HEAR FEEDBACK AND THEN COME FORWARD.
11:12:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND WE WOULD MAKE A FINDING.
11:13:01AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: EXACTLY.
11:13:02AM BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO MEETINGS AT THE END AND THE PUBLIC
11:13:06AM TRANSMISSION HEARING.
11:13:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE FLOOD SCOPES, THE
11:13:14AM BUILDERS WOULD BE FORCED TO BUILD A ONE-STORY HOUSE?
11:13:23AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: MUCH ONE STORY OR THEY WOULD SQUEEZE TWO
11:13:26AM STORIES IN WITH VERY SHORT CEILINGS AND FLAT ROOFS.
11:13:30AM THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ADDITIONAL --
11:13:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND WITH LAND AT A PREMIUM WITHIN THESE
11:13:37AM FLOOD ZONES, THE BUILDERS WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO DO ONE STORY
11:13:41AM WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO DO TWO STORIES WOULD LIMIT LIVABLE
11:13:48AM SPACES?
11:13:49AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: IT WOULD.
11:13:50AM IF SOMEONE CHOSE AN ARCHITECTURE WITH A PITCHED ROOF THEN IT
11:13:55AM WOULD BE A ONE-STORY HOUSE.
11:13:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE
11:14:00AM BEEN HEARING ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS ZONES AROUND THE UNITED
11:14:06AM STATES AND I UNDERSTAND NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, IT'S GOING TO
11:14:12AM HAPPEN FROM WHAT WE SEE IN THE RECORD.
11:14:13AM SO THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE ALWAYS TALKED ONLY ABOUT THE
11:14:16AM ELEVATION OF STRUCTURES.
11:14:20AM MY CONCERN IS ONCE THIS IS DONE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
11:14:23AM WITH THE ROAD?
11:14:25AM HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO YOUR HOUSE IF IT'S FLOODED?
11:14:33AM I'M TRYING TO MAKE COMMON SENSE OUT OF ALL OF THIS.
11:14:36AM YEAH, I DO THIS AND I FIX IT, HOW DO YOU GET TO THE HOUSE?
11:14:43AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:14:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO WE HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS GOING ON
11:14:48AM ANYWHERE?
11:14:54AM >> NOT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING SIDE.
11:14:58AM NO.
11:14:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY OR ANYTHING.
11:15:03AM IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE THAT YOU DO ALL THIS TO PREPARE
11:15:06AM SOMETHING, AND YOU SEE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALREADY ALL
11:15:11AM OVER THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD,
11:15:14AM AND YET WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO THE ROADS.
11:15:17AM I TELL MYSELF, WHAT'S THE IDEA OF DOING THIS AND NOTHING
11:15:20AM ELSE?
11:15:21AM IF WE CAPTAIN GET TO IT?
11:15:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:27AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, IT'S KIND OF SCARY WHEN YOU
11:15:30AM AND I START THINKING ALIKE.
11:15:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, YOU ARE GETTING BALD.
11:15:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT DEFINITELY MUST BE IT.
11:15:39AM BUT MRS. COYLE AND I AND MRS. MORA WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE
11:15:45AM ISSUES AND THE DISCUSSION FLOWED EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE
11:15:48AM TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE RESILIENCE, HOW RESILIENT AS A
11:15:53AM COMMUNITY WE ARE, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY TO
11:15:57AM PREPARE?
11:15:58AM AND ALSO FROM MRS. COYLE'S PERSPECTIVE WHAT CONDITION WE DO
11:16:03AM WITH OUR ZONING CODES AND OUR BUILDING CODES TO ADDRESS SOME
11:16:06AM OF THESE ISSUES AS WELL?
11:16:10AM SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE ALWAYS ALLOWED BUILDERS TO COME IN AND
11:16:14AM PUT IN FILL TO GET TO A CERTAIN HEIGHT.
11:16:18AM NOW THAT HEIGHT IS EVEN HIGHER.
11:16:21AM SO CAN THEY CONTINUE TO PUT IN 11 FEET OF FILL TO GET TO
11:16:29AM THEIR FRONT DOOR, OR IS THERE A BETTER APPROACH?
11:16:31AM NOT ONLY FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL HOME OWN PERSPECTIVE BUT FROM
11:16:35AM THE NEIGHBOR'S PERSPECTIVE?
11:16:37AM AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE RESILIENCY ISSUES.
11:16:40AM AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION, I JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT
11:16:43AM THERE TO KIND OF POINT OUT THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PLAIN,
11:16:49AM AND I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TALKED ABOUT RESILIENCY.
11:16:53AM QUITE A BIT.
11:16:56AM BUT AFTER THIS DISCUSSION I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
11:17:01AM START TALKING AT A WORKSHOP ABOUT RESILIENCE.
11:17:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:17:07AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:17:09AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE FINAL AMENDMENT NUMBER 3, THIS IS A
11:17:12AM REALLY SIMPLE ONE, SIMPLY CLEANING UP THE SECTION REFERENCE
11:17:15AM UNDERSTOOD THE ALCOHOL REGULATIONS FOR EXPIRATION,
11:17:19AM SUSPENSION OF PERMITS.
11:17:21AM THEY DID REFER TO SECTION 14-151 FOR EXCESSIVE NOISE.
11:17:25AM THAT CODE HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY WITH THE TERMS.
11:17:28AM SO WE SIMPLY REFERENCE TO CHAPTER 14 WHICH COVERS IT.
11:17:32AM THAT WAS FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, JUST A SIMPLE CLEAN-UP.
11:17:39AM AFTER YOU HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC I WOULD ASK YOU TO MAKE A
11:17:41AM DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOING TO TRANSMIT AS IS EACH
11:17:44AM AMENDMENT, OR IF THERE'S ANY TWEAKS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
11:17:47AM MAKE THAT YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSMIT DIRECTING, OR
11:17:52AM IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ANY OF THE AMENDMENT TO ANOTHER TIME
11:17:55AM TO DISCUSS MORE, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
11:17:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:17:58AM ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:18:00AM OKAY.
11:18:01AM WE PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:18:02AM IF ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON
11:18:05AM THIS PARTICULAR WORKSHOP, COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME FOR
11:18:07AM THREE MINUTES.
11:18:07AM >> GERRY BROWN, 491 SEVERN AVENUE, DAVIS ISLAND.
11:18:15AM ALMOST A 40-YEAR RESIDENT NOW ON DAVIS ISLAND.
11:18:18AM I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE HAPPENING.
11:18:19AM I BELIEVE GOOD CHANGE.
11:18:22AM I HAVE BEEN WONDERING MYSELF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN
11:18:25AM THIS CAME BACK TO US AND STARTED PROPOSING THAT WE ELEVATE
11:18:27AM FUTURE HOMES AND THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:18:31AM I WANT YOU TO ALSO KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE
11:18:34AM DAVIS ISLAND NEIGHBORHOOD STEWARDSHIP TEAM FOR ALMOST A
11:18:38AM DECADE, SO I AM VERY WELL FAMILIAR WITH WHAT I BELIEVE MOST
11:18:43AM OF THE STAKEHOLDERS ON DAVIS ISLAND EXPECT TO HEAR WHEN THIS
11:18:49AM TOPIC COMES UP.
11:18:50AM I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE PUBLIC
11:18:53AM DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
11:18:54AM BUT I AGREE WITH MRS. COYLE, I THINK YOU NEED TO TRANSMIT TO
11:18:59AM GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
11:19:00AM OTHERWISE, WE WILL BE HERE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW TALKING ABOUT
11:19:03AM IT.
11:19:04AM BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
11:19:09AM PERSONALLY AS A BUILDER, YES, I AM OF THE OPINION THAT MOST
11:19:12AM PROPERTY OWNERS WHO SPEND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY HAVE
11:19:15AM TO SPEND TO PURCHASE PROPERTY ON DAVIS ISLAND, ESPECIALLY
11:19:18AM WATERFRONT PROPERTY, WOULD NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT SHRINKING THAT
11:19:22AM VERTICAL ENVELOP.
11:19:27AM SO IF NOTHING ELSE I WOULD HOPE THAT IF FEMA COMES UP,
11:19:31AM WHATEVER THAT ENVELOPE BE ALLOWED TO GO UP, AT LEAST THE
11:19:34AM SAME AMOUNT.
11:19:36AM OTHERWISE, YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
11:19:38AM CHANGE IN THE ARCHITECTURAL FORM OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE
11:19:41AM BUILT.
11:19:42AM AND I THINK WE ALL LIKE VARIETY.
11:19:44AM I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS ON DAVIS ISLAND OVER
11:19:47AM THE YEARS HAVE EXPRESSED ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT OUR
11:19:51AM NEIGHBORHOOD IS THERE'S A LOT OF VARIETY.
11:19:54AM PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND ARE NOT THE SAME
11:19:57AM PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE ON HARBOR ISLAND.
11:19:59AM THEY DON'T WANT ARCHITECTURAL CONTROLS.
11:20:01AM THEY DON'T WANT HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION TELLING THEM HOW TO
11:20:06AM LIVE IN THEIR HOMES AND HOW TO BUILD THEIR HOMES.
11:20:09AM SO ALL OF THAT FITS IN WITH THE PLAN.
11:20:12AM BUT I AGREE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DISCUSSION, WHICH
11:20:15AM THEREIN REALLY HASN'T BEEN YET.
11:20:17AM AND AGAIN THIS IS ALL REAL PHILADELPHIA NEW.
11:20:19AM FEMA HAS BEEN COMING DOWN THE PIKE FOR YEARS.
11:20:21AM NOW IT'S HERE.
11:20:22AM AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST CHANGE, I DON'T KNOW, MIGHT
11:20:26AM BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.
11:20:27AM MAYBE NOT.
11:20:28AM WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
11:20:30AM WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN GLOBAL WARMING OR NOT, RISING TIDES
11:20:34AM ARE HERE TO STAY HAVE BEEN, AND WE HAVE SEEN PROOF, EVEN ON
11:20:38AM DAVIS ISLAND, THE LAST COUPLE OF SUMMERS, THAT WHEN WE GET
11:20:42AM THESE HEAVY RAINS AND HIGH TIDE, THE WATER HAS NO PLACE TO
11:20:45AM GO.
11:20:45AM THAT CAUSES THE STREET BEDS TO FAIL, WHICH CAUSES POTHOLES
11:20:49AM THAT EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT, AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND
11:20:51AM WHY THE CITY WON'T RUSH BACK AND FIX THEM EVERY TIME IT
11:20:54AM HAPPENS.
11:20:56AM YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
11:20:57AM SO THERE HAS TO BE A DISCUSSION, YES.
11:21:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:21:02AM IF YOU WILL EXCUSE ME, THERE'S A MEETING WITH THE
11:21:06AM ADMINISTRATION THAT I HAVE TO GO TO, SOMETHING WITH MY
11:21:10AM DISTRICT THAT I HAVE TRIED TO PUSH BACK AND IT'S OCCURRING,
11:21:13AM SO I HAVE TO LEAVE, 10 OR 15 MINUTES.
11:21:20AM >> YOU ARE EXCUSED.
11:21:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
11:21:25AM NEXT PERSON PLEASE.
11:21:26AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: JUST SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
11:21:30AM HAPPENING HERE, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CONCEPT
11:21:33AM ALREADY.
11:21:33AM BUT FEMA CAME IN AND THEY SAID IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE
11:21:37AM PROPERTY -- AND THIS GOES BACK TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S
11:21:40AM COMMENT, IT'S REALLY TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY ARE
11:21:44AM INSURING UNDER THE FEDERAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM TO
11:21:47AM MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THOSE CLAIMS.
11:21:51AM AND TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT AS BEST THEY
11:21:54AM CAN, IN THE EVENT OF A CATASTROPHIC EVENT THAT THEY DON'T
11:21:59AM HAVE WHOLESALE FLOODING AND ABSOLUTE DESTRUCTION OF THOSE
11:22:04AM EXISTING STRUCTURES.
11:22:05AM THIS IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT AFFECTS ALL OF THE FEMA
11:22:10AM FLOOD MAPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS IS NOT A DAVIS ISLAND
11:22:14AM OR SOUTH TAMPA ISSUE.
11:22:15AM THIS IS A CITY-WIDE ISSUE.
11:22:17AM AND THERE ARE MANY AREAS WITHIN EAST TAMPA DISTRICT THAT ARE
11:22:21AM IN THE FLOOD ZONE.
11:22:22AM THERE ARE MANY AREAS ALL ALONG THE RIVER, ALL THE QUAY UP
11:22:26AM THROUGH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND THROUGH ALL THE WAY UP TO THE
11:22:30AM USF AREA THAT ARE IN FLOOD ZONES.
11:22:32AM I THINK THAT THIS APPROACH IS IN A UNIVERSAL MANNER IS
11:22:38AM EFFECTIVE.
11:22:39AM I THINK IT IS A WISE APPROACH BECAUSE WHAT IT BASICALLY SAYS
11:22:42AM IS WHATEVER FEMA TELLS YOU THAT ELEVATION IS, THAT'S WHERE
11:22:46AM YOU START MEASURING FROM IN ADDITION TO THE ONE FOR THE FREE
11:22:52AM BOARD THAT THE CITY HAS IN THE BIDDING CODE.
11:22:54AM IT DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY.
11:22:57AM IT SAYS IF YOU LIVE IN A ZONE AND SAYS IT'S SIX FEET, THEN
11:23:00AM YOU ADJUST FOR THE SIX FEET.
11:23:02AM IF IT SAYS IT'S TEN FEET YOU ADJUST FOR THE TEN FEET, OR THE
11:23:05AM ONE FOOT OR WHATEVER IT IS.
11:23:07AM BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MISTAKES THAT WE MAKE IS BY TRYING TO
11:23:11AM IDENTIFY THIS AS, WELL, THIS IS A SOUTH TAMPA ISSUE, IT IS A
11:23:16AM CITY-WIDE WISH YOU, AND IF YOU DON'T START ADDRESSING IT NOW
11:23:19AM THEN YOU RUN THE RISK OF JEOPARDIZING YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE
11:23:22AM PROGRAMS, ALL OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION, AS GARY POINTED OUT, YOU
11:23:26AM END UP WITH VERY EXPENSIVE PROPERTIES AND A ONE-STORY HOUSE.
11:23:31AM AND THAT WOULD BE TRUE ANYWHERE, NOT JUST IN SOUTH TAMPA,
11:23:34AM NOT DAVIS ISLAND OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
11:23:37AM I THINK I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE TO TRANSMIT THIS.
11:23:42AM THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF DISCUSSION.
11:23:44AM THERE WILL BE OTHER WORKSHOPS.
11:23:45AM AND THERE WILL BE AT LEAST TWO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS TO
11:23:48AM COME FORWARD.
11:23:49AM THIS HAS TO BE ADJUSTED.
11:23:51AM BUT IN LOOKING AT IT, I THINK IT IS A SMART APPROACH TO
11:23:55AM SAYING WHATEVER FEMA SAYS THE ELEVATION IS, THAT'S WHERE YOU
11:23:57AM START MEASURING FROM AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO ADJUST THE
11:24:01AM HEIGHTS OF ALL YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS, YOUR MAXIMUM HEIGHTS.
11:24:05AM HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GUESS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE?
11:24:08AM YOU WOULD HAVE DIFFERING HEIGHTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
11:24:11AM THEN I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
11:24:13AM SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU TRANSMIT THIS.
11:24:18AM AS YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT A NUMBER OF BUILDERS, THE BUILDERS
11:24:22AM ASSOCIATION HAS LOOKED AT IT AND THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT
11:24:24AM AS WELL.
11:24:26AM SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A UNIVERSAL ISSUE, NOT A SINGULAR
11:24:31AM ISSUE.
11:24:32AM [BELL SOUNDS]
11:24:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?
11:24:34AM NO?
11:24:35AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:24:37AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I THINK A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN A ROCK
11:24:42AM AND A HARD PLACE ON THIS.
11:24:44AM I THINK AS MR. CARLSON ALLUDED TO, AND NOT JUST DAVIS
11:24:48AM ISLAND, A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS, AND
11:24:55AM I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A RUDE AWAKENING FOR SOME PEOPLE
11:24:58AM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT APPEARS TO ME IF YOU ADD THE 35 FEET
11:25:04AM PLUS THE EXISTING 11, YOU HAVE POTENTIALLY A 46-FOOT HEIGHT
11:25:12AM ABOVE GRADE AT THE PEEK OF THE HOUSE CORRECT ME IF I AM
11:25:19AM WRONG MRS. COYLE.
11:25:20AM AM I WRONG?
11:25:23AM I'M TALKING ABOUT UNDER THE EXISTING SITUATION.
11:25:27AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: UNDER EXISTING IS TEN FEET.
11:25:29AM AND THAT IS MEASURED FROM THE SEA LEVEL.
11:25:33AM AND THAT'S THE ZERO.
11:25:34AM WHEN YOU START GRADING, HEIGHT IS 35 FEET FROM GRADE.
11:25:39AM THE PROBLEM IS THE SEA LEVEL REQUIREMENT IS CHUNKING AWAY AT
11:25:43AM THAT 35 FEET.
11:25:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I MISSPOKE.
11:25:50AM AT SEA LEVEL IT'S ABOUT 50.
11:25:52AM I THINK NOW WE ARE SWITCHING FROM 46 FEET TO --
11:26:00AM >>CATHERINE COYLE: YOU SUBTRACT OUT WHATEVER THE GRADE IS
11:26:02AM AND THAT WILL BE THE HEIGHT THAT YOU SEE AT THE EDGE OF THE
11:26:04AM PROPERTY.
11:26:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY POINT BEING FOR THAT NEIGHBOR THAT'S
11:26:08AM ACROSS THE STREET, PERHAPS NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT ZONE, OR
11:26:13AM WHATEVER, THEY ARE IN THEIR EXISTING ONE-STORY RANCH HOUSE
11:26:17AM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN FOR 30 YEARS, AND THAT NEW HOUSE GETS
11:26:20AM BUILT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SEAWALL, THAT NEW HOUSE IS
11:26:24AM GOING TO BE 52 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
11:26:29AM IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG, TALL, LARGE STRUCTURE.
11:26:35AM A VERY HIGH STRUCTURE.
11:26:37AM HIGHER-SIX FEET HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, POTENTIALLY.
11:26:41AM WITH THAT SAID, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME
11:26:46AM RUDE AWAKENINGS FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE IMPACTED LIKE THAT.
11:26:50AM BUT THE FLIP SIDE IS, FROM A FAIRNESS PERSPECTIVE AND EQUITY
11:26:54AM PERSPECTIVE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE
11:26:57AM ARE BETWEEN A ROCK AND HARD PLACE AND ADOPT HAVE A LOT OF
11:26:59AM CHOICE.
11:27:00AM SO IF I ULTIMATELY SUPPORT THIS, THAT'S WHY.
11:27:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:27:07AM GOOD.
11:27:07AM ALL RIGHT.
11:27:08AM COUNCILMAN?
11:27:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE NOT APPROVING IT YET.
11:27:18AM WE ARE JUST APPROVING TAKING IT TO THE PUBLIC, RIGHT?
11:27:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:27:24AM ANYONE ELSE?
11:27:25AM NO?
11:27:25AM IS THERE A MOTION?
11:27:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO TRANSMIT THE ITEM TO THE
11:27:31AM PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:27:31AM >> SECOND.
11:27:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:34AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN -- ALL IN FAVOR?
11:27:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:43AM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
11:27:45AM I'LL GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS BY COUNCIL
11:27:48AM MEMBERS.
11:27:48AM I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:27:52AM ANY NEW BUSINESS, ANYTHING?
11:27:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO TAKE HIS TWO BECAUSE HIS
11:27:58AM TWO WILL MAKE IT 4, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:28:00AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE SCHEDULE FISCAL
11:28:05AM YEAR 2020 BUDGET WORKSHOP ON CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
11:28:07AM DATE OF JUNE 27th AND FURTHER REQUEST THE CITY CLERK TO
11:28:11AM SCHEDULE THE WORKSHOP FIRST.
11:28:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:28:16AM MIRANDA.
11:28:16AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:28:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:28:20AM ALL RIGHT.
11:28:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE
11:28:26AM MAYOR'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET PRESENTATION AT THE REGULAR CITY
11:28:26AM COUNCIL MEETING DATE OF AUGUST THE 1st, 2019 AT 9 A.M.
11:28:33AM >> SECOND.
11:28:36AM >>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
11:28:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION TO PREPARE A COMMENDATION
11:28:41AM FOR FRAN DAVIN, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:28:43AM 2019 LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD HONOREE, COMMENDATION TO BE
11:28:48AM PRESENTED AT THE 14th LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD
11:28:52AM LUNCHEON ON THE 30th OF MAY 2019.
11:28:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
11:28:59AM BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:29:01AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:29:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION FOR COMMENDATION TO JANE
11:29:04AM AND GARY GIBBONS, RECIPIENT OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS,
11:29:08AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, 2019, SYDNEY AND THALIA POTTER CIVIC
11:29:12AM LEADERSHIP AWARD, THE COMMENDATION TO BE PRESENTED ON THE
11:29:15AM 14TH ANNUAL LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD LUNCHEON ON THURSDAY,
11:29:18AM MAY 30, 2019.
11:29:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
11:29:22AM FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
11:29:26AM NEXT.
11:29:29AM YOU HAVE IT ALL TYPED UP.
11:29:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU.
11:29:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, IF I CAN CLARIFY.
11:29:35AM THE WORKSHOP DATE THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR THAT MOTION THAT
11:29:39AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MADE?
11:29:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:29:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I APOLOGIZE, MR. MIRANDA.
11:29:55AM BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL BREAK, THE WORKSHOP IS NORMALLY
11:29:58AM SCHEDULED FOR THE LAST WEEK OF THE MONTH.
11:30:01AM JUNE'S WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 20.
11:30:03AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SCHEDULED THE SCHEDULED THE
11:30:06AM WORKSHOP FOR THE CORRECT DATE OF JUNE 20.
11:30:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN
11:30:09AM SOMETHING I MISHEARD, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH MARY.
11:30:13AM THANK YOU.
11:30:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:30:17AM COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:30:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] JUST SUBMIT A FORM 8B
11:30:24AM BECAUSE I HAD TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THE MAY 8th
11:30:29AM MEETING.
11:30:30AM MAY 16th, EXCUSE ME.
11:30:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SUBMISSION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:30:36AM CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, TO ACCEPT THAT.
11:30:39AM ANYTHING ELSE?
11:30:42AM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
11:30:44AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:30:46AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIR PRO TEM.
11:30:48AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR COMMENDATION TO CYNTHIA SARFF WHO
11:30:58AM HAS UNFORTUNATELY DECIDED TO RETIRE FROM SERVICE TO THIS
11:31:03AM CITY COUNCIL AND TO THIS COUNCILMAN AND THE COUNCILWOMAN
11:31:07AM CAPIN, 16 YEARS OF LOYAL SERVICE.
11:31:11AM SHE CLAIMS SHE WANTS TO MOVE BACK NORTH TO ILLINOIS, SUFFER
11:31:15AM THROUGH THE COLD UP THERE, BUT ANYWAY, WE LOOK AT JUNE
11:31:20AM 6th AND WE'LL DRAG HER OUT HER KICKING AND ACCEPT THE
11:31:23AM COMMENDATION.
11:31:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:31:26AM DINGFELDER.
11:31:26AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:31:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:31:29AM I HAVE A FEW MOTIONS.
11:31:30AM DO I GIVE IT TO CRA CHAIR?
11:31:34AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHOEVER IS CLOSEST.
11:31:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:38AM ITEM NUMBER 1.
11:31:39AM I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE FROM STAFF TO COME BACK JUNE 6th
11:31:45AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE FOR-PROFIT
11:31:48AM CLOTHING AND SHOE DROP DONATION SITES.
11:31:51AM WE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS THAT THEY ARE SCATTERED
11:31:54AM THROUGHOUT MY DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY BECOME DUMPING GROUND.
11:31:57AM PEOPLE DON'T JUST LEAVE CLOTHING AND SHOES AND WHATNOT BUT
11:32:01AM THEY ARE LEAVING FURNITURE AND MATTRESSES AND ALL SORTS OF
11:32:04AM NONSENSE.
11:32:07AM I WANT TO SEE WHAT IN OUR CODE, WHAT IN OUR POLICY WE HAVE
11:32:10AM TO HELP REGULATE THIS AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
11:32:13AM JUST TO GET SOME INFORMATION.
11:32:14AM >> SECOND.
11:32:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:19AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:21AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:32:23AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:32:24AM MOTION PASSES.
11:32:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, INVITE PROPERTY APPRAISER BOB
11:32:30AM ENRIQUEZ TO COME SPEAK BEFORE COME UP ON JUNE 20th FOR
11:32:34AM TEN MINUTES.
11:32:35AM IT MAY NOT TAKE THAT LONG TO DISCUSS THE UPCOMING TRIM
11:32:39AM NOTICES.
11:32:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:44AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:32:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:32:47AM ALL OPPOSED?
11:32:48AM MOTION PASSES.
11:32:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FINAL ITEM IS I LIKE HISTORY.
11:32:53AM WE HEAR LOTS OF STORIES FROM THE PAST, BUT THIS YEAR MARKS
11:32:57AM 30 YEARS THAT WE NAMED BUFFALO AVENUE TO MARTIN LUTHER KING
11:33:03AM BOULEVARD AND ACTUALLY THAT INITIAL VOTE WAS MADE JULY 27 OF
11:33:07AM 1989.
11:33:07AM WE DOESN'T HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING THAT DAY TO COINCIDE WITH
11:33:10AM THE ANNIVERSARY BUT I HAVE NOTICED THAT THROUGHOUT THE
11:33:12AM COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN DESIGNATIONS AND STREET RENAMINGS,
11:33:18AM FOR PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.
11:33:22AM FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA VISITED TAMPA AND MAYBE HE WAS
11:33:27AM THE FIRST SITTING PRESIDENT TO SPEAK AT CENTENNIAL PARK AND
11:33:31AM I KNOW HE CAME TO VISIT AT WEST TAMPA, AND AT A TIME SEA
11:33:37AM SANDWICH SHOP THERE.
11:33:38AM I DIDN'T GET TO MEET HIM BUT I SAW HIM AS HIS TOUR BUS WAS
11:33:42AM LEAVING.
11:33:43AM I BELIEVE MUCH I WOULD ASK THOM SNELLING, NOT JEAN DUNCAN,
11:33:47AM TO POSSIBLY COME BACK AT OUR JUNE 27th MEETING TO SEE IF
11:33:52AM NOT AN ACTUAL STREET RENAMING LIKE A MARTIN LUTHER KING BUT
11:33:54AM AN HONORARY DESIGNATION.
11:33:56AM IF THERE ARE ANY THOUGHTS, ANY IDEAS.
11:33:59AM ONE IDEA THAT I HAD, MAYBE THIS WON'T WORK, IS THE BRIDGE ON
11:34:02AM MLK.
11:34:03AM I CALL IT THE BUFFALO BRIDGE.
11:34:05AM PEOPLE CALL IT THE MLK BRIDGE.
11:34:07AM MAYBE THAT CANNOT BE DONE.
11:34:08AM BUT SOMETHING, SOME DESIGNATION THAT WE CAN GET IT FROM AN
11:34:12AM HONORARY STANDPOINT.
11:34:13AM WE DID IT MOST RECENT LIMIT FOR LIKE MONSIGNOR HIGGINS ON
11:34:18AM HINES, A STRETCH OF ROAD WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
11:34:20AM THAT'S IT.
11:34:21AM SO JUNE 27th I WOULD ASK FOR THOM SNELLING UNDER STAFF
11:34:24AM REPORTS.
11:34:24AM >> MUCH SECOND.
11:34:32AM >> COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU HAVE RESTATE THE MOTION.
11:34:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THOM SNELLING TO COME TO COUNCIL
11:34:37AM JUNE 27th UNDER STAFF REPORTS TO SEE ABOUT ANY POSSIBLE
11:34:39AM LOCATIONS FOR HONORARY STREET LOCATIONS RENAMING, NOT
11:34:43AM RENAMING THE STREET BUT ADDING THAT HONORARY MARKER FOR
11:34:46AM FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.
11:34:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
11:34:51AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:34:53AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:34:54AM ALL OPPOSED?
11:34:55AM MOTION PASSES.
11:34:56AM >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS.
11:35:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:09AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
11:35:11AM THANK YOU.
11:35:11AM [SOUNDING GAVEL]
11:35:15AM
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