TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 23, 2019
5:30 P.M. SESSION
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>> ROLL CALL.
5:33:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
5:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
5:33:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
5:33:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
5:33:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
5:33:27PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:33:27PM >> SECOND.
5:33:31PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:33:32PM I AM VANESSA MCCLEARY, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
5:33:36PM MANAGER, AND I AM HERE TO START THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
5:33:39PM FOR THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
5:33:41PM EACH YEAR, WE COME AND WE PRESENT THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
5:33:47PM THE FIRST MEETING IS WHEN WE WILL MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE
5:33:49PM PUBLIC.
5:33:50PM I WOULD LIKE TO BE LOADING THE DOCUMENT IF YOU DIDN'T GET A
5:33:52PM COPY YET, I WILL BE LOADING THE DOCUMENT TONIGHT AND IT WILL
5:33:56PM OPEN UP A 30-DAY COMMENT PERIOD IN WHICH THE PUBLIC CAN MAKE
5:33:59PM ANY COMMENTS, WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE PLAN, AND WE HAVE TO
5:34:03PM RESPOND TO THOSE.
5:34:04PM AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WE'LL COME BACK
5:34:07PM BEFORE YOU AND TELL YOU ANY COMMENTS THAT WILL BE RECEIVED
5:34:12PM ALONG WITH ACCEPTING ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AT THAT TIME,
5:34:15PM AND THAT WILL BE AT THE JULY MEETING.
5:34:17PM THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING EARLIER THAN TRADITIONALLY.
5:34:22PM USUALLY WE DO IT IN JUNE.
5:34:24PM BUT IN JULY, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING, AND SO WE HAVE TO
5:34:27PM MOVE THE DATE UP.
5:34:28PM AND THAT'S WHY THE DOCUMENT IS NOT FULLY PREPARED YET.
5:34:31PM AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
5:34:40PM THERE IT IS.
5:34:41PM OH, SORRY.
5:34:43PM OKAY.
5:34:49PM SO WITH THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, WE ARE LETTING THE PUBLIC
5:34:53PM KNOW HOW WE PLAN TO SPEND THE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE
5:34:57PM RECEIVE.
5:34:57PM SO THIS WILL INCLUDE CDBG, HOME, HOPWA, AND ESG FUNDING.
5:35:03PM IT IS THE ONE-YEAR PLAN THAT TIES BACK TO THE FIVE-YEAR
5:35:06PM PLAN.
5:35:07PM WE WILL ALSO BE GOING OUT TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS WE
5:35:12PM TYPICALLY GO TO EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY MEETINGS
5:35:14PM TO GO OVER THE ACTION PLAN WITH THEM.
5:35:23PM WE STARTED THE ACTION PLAN PROCESS ACTUALLY BACK IN MARCH,
5:35:27PM AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THAT
5:35:29PM WE HAVE TO DO RFPs, SO WE PUT OUT RFPs FOR PUBLIC
5:35:34PM SERVICE, FOR HOUSING COUNSELING, HUD.
5:35:39PM WE ARE ALREADY UNDER THREE YEAR CONTRACTS, AND ESG, THREE
5:35:43PM YEAR CONTRACTS, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE PUT OUT.
5:35:46PM AND WE ALSO PUT OUT FOR CHOTO IN PUBLIC FACILITY.
5:35:50PM WE DID THAT IN MARCH, AND IN APRIL WE HAD EARLY APRIL, WE
5:35:53PM HAD TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOPS, AND THAT'S WHEN WE ARE
5:35:57PM HELPING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION
5:35:59PM AND SUBMIT.
5:36:02PM THEY WERE DUE APRIL 26th, AND AT THAT TIME WE DO A
5:36:07PM REVIEW, STAFF DOES A REVIEW FOR THRESHOLD ITEMS, AND THEN IT
5:36:10PM IS PASSED ON TO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WHO ACTUALLY DO THE
5:36:15PM REVIEW OF THE APPLICATIONS AND THE RECOMMENDATION.
5:36:18PM WE THEN TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, AND WE PRESENT IT TO THE
5:36:22PM MAYOR FOR APPROVAL, AND THEN WE PRESENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL
5:36:26PM AND TO THE PUBLIC.
5:36:28PM AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY, MAY 23rd.
5:36:32PM YOU WILL ACTUALLY DO THE FINAL APPROVAL BEFORE IT GOES TO
5:36:34PM HUD ON JULY 18th, AND IT IS DUE TO HUD BY AUGUST
5:36:38PM 15th.
5:36:40PM AND THEN THE CONTRACT YEAR STARTS OCTOBER 1.
5:36:43PM IN THIS ACTION PLAN, THERE ARE ACTUALLY SOME ROLLOVER
5:36:46PM DOLLARS, SO SOME OF THE CONTRACTS WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO
5:36:49PM START AHEAD OF THE ACTION PLAN.
5:36:53PM SO WE RECEIVE 3.1 IN CDBG, 1.5 IN HOME, 3.9 IN HOPWA, AND
5:37:02PM JUST OVER A QUARTER MILLION IN ESG FUNDING.
5:37:07PM WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR FINAL NUMBERS ON THE SHIP BUT THE
5:37:10PM EXPECTATION IS WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE ABOUT A 439,000
5:37:14PM UNLESS THE GOVERNOR DOES A LINE ITEM VETO.
5:37:18PM THESE ARE JUST THE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT IS CDBG AND WHAT CAN
5:37:23PM IT USED FOR, HOME, ESG AND HOPWA.
5:37:26PM THE PRIORITY MEANS THAT WE ARE IDENTIFIED FROM THE COMMUNITY
5:37:29PM MEETINGS WHEN WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN
5:37:31PM WAS HOUSING REHAB, HOME OWN AREA ASSISTANCE, RENTAL
5:37:35PM ASSISTANCE, NEW CONSTRUCTION, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OPERATIONS,
5:37:39PM PUBLIC SERVICE, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
5:37:45PM LIKE I SAID, THE COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE FROM MAY 23rd TO
5:37:49PM JUNE 23rd.
5:37:50PM WE WILL COMPRISE ALL OF THOSE AND ADD THOSE COMMENTS INTO
5:37:52PM THE ACTUAL ACTION PLAN.
5:37:55PM AT THE MEETING ON JULY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCEPT ADDITIONAL
5:37:58PM COMMENTS, AND WE WILL RESPOND BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
5:38:03PM SO FOR THIS YEAR, THE ACTION PLAN WILL INCLUDE 14,765,000.
5:38:11PM IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE PREVIOUS SCREEN, I HAD 8.9 MILLION
5:38:14PM THAT WE ARE RECEIVING IN FEDERAL FUNDS.
5:38:17PM THE OTHER FUNDS ARE ACTUALLY ROLLOVER DOLLARS FROM PREVIOUS
5:38:21PM YEARS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SPENT.
5:38:24PM SO IN TERMS.
5:38:25PM HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT MAKE UP THAT 7.1 MILLION, WE ARE
5:38:29PM LOOKING AT 334 IN HOUSING COUNSELING, A MILLION FOR HOMELESS
5:38:34PM SOLUTION CENTER, 345,000, CHDO, TO BUILD NEW SINGLE-FAMILY
5:38:40PM HOMES, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WE ARE GOING TO PUT 1.2
5:38:45PM MILLION, TENANT BASED RENTAL A DISTANCE, 800,000, AND OWNER
5:38:53PM OCCUPIED REHAB 2 MILLION.
5:38:56PM SO THAT IS THE OVERVIEW.
5:38:59PM AT THIS POINT WE ARE OPENING UP FOR COMMENTS.
5:39:01PM WE TRY TO GET PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BECAUSE THESE FUNDS, EVEN
5:39:05PM THOUGH THEY ARE GIVEN TO THE CITY, IT'S STILL OUR
5:39:08PM RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET PUBLIC INPUT WHEN WE
5:39:11PM ARE PUTTING DOCUMENTS TOGETHER.
5:39:22PM AND FOLKS CAN COME DOWN TO MY OFFICE OR THEY CAN E-MAIL.
5:39:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
5:39:28PM COUNCILMAN?
5:39:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] FOR THOSE NEWER COMERS,
5:39:43PM WHAT IS THAT?
5:39:45PM >> THAT IS TO BUILD ANOTHER FACILITY TO HOUSE HOMELESS
5:39:47PM INDIVIDUALS, PROVIDE THEM WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
5:39:52PM AS WE ARE MOVING FAMILIES, WE TRY TO RAPIDLY REHOUSE PUTTING
5:39:56PM THEM STRAIGHT INTO AN APARTMENT AND PROVIDE THEM SERVICES
5:39:59PM THERE.
5:39:59PM BUT THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO BE NO FACILITY
5:40:04PM FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS SO WE CAN GET THEIR SITUATION
5:40:06PM STABILIZED BEFORE WE MOVE THEM ON.
5:40:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LIKE A TRANSITION?
5:40:12PM >> YES, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
5:40:14PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAY ANOTHER.
5:40:16PM ARE WE OPERATING ONE RIGHT NOW?
5:40:18PM >> THERE IS ONE OPERATING CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY.
5:40:20PM AND WE WANTED TO HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.
5:40:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I ASSUME THE UP WITH IN THE COUNTY,
5:40:27PM THEY ARE DOING, THE COUNTY?
5:40:28PM >> YES, THE COUNTY IS FUNDING THAT.
5:40:30PM BUT --
5:40:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S RAH LOT OF MONEY, BUT IN TERMS OF
5:40:35PM BUILDING AND OPERATING SOMETHING, A MILLION DOLLARS DOESN'T
5:40:37PM SOUND LIKE SO MUCH.
5:40:39PM SO TELL ME MORE ABOUT -- IS THERE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES?
5:40:43PM >> YES.
5:40:44PM THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING A MILLION DOLLARS.
5:40:47PM AND THIS IS FOR FAMILY SERVICES WHICH IS FORMERLY -- THEY
5:40:54PM HAD A FACILITY IN SOUTH TAMPA AND -- SORRY, NOT SOUTH TAMPA,
5:40:58PM BUT THEY ARE MOVING TO ARMENIA.
5:41:00PM AND SO THEY ARE MOVING ALL THEIR OPERATIONS AND EXPANDING AT
5:41:03PM THAT LOCATION.
5:41:06PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S THE ONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT,
5:41:08PM THE MILLION DOLLARS?
5:41:09PM >> YES.
5:41:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
5:41:12PM AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB.
5:41:22PM YOU AND I MET A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY AND CHATTED ABOUT THE
5:41:25PM REHAB GENERALLY.
5:41:28PM $2 MILLION OWNER OCCUPIED.
5:41:31PM TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT IF YOU WOULD.
5:41:32PM >> SO WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS THAT NEED TO HAVE REPAIRS
5:41:37PM DONE TO THEIR PROPERTIES.
5:41:38PM THERE WAS A TIME WHEN IF SOMEONE GOT OLDER AND NEEDED
5:41:42PM EXTENSIVE REPAIRS, WE ENCOURAGED THEM TO MOVE TO RENTAL
5:41:45PM WHERE SOMEONE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY.
5:41:47PM BECAUSE OUR RENT RATES ARE SO HIGH, WE FIND THAT WE HAVE TO
5:41:51PM HELP FOLKS TO AGE IN PLACE.
5:41:54PM AND SO WE HAVE $2 MILLION TO PUT OUT TO HELP LOW-INCOME
5:41:59PM FAMILIES TO MAKE REPAIRS TO THEIR HOMES.
5:42:01PM THEY HAVE TO HAVE OWNED THE HOME FOR FIVE YEARS AND BE AT
5:42:04PM 80% OF MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW TO QUALIFY.
5:42:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE TYPICAL REPAIR THAT'S NEEDED
5:42:12PM IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE WE DOING, PUTTING ON ROOFS?
5:42:15PM >> ROOFS, FLOORS, PLUMBING, SIDING, WINDOWS.
5:42:19PM WE TYPICALLY DON'T DO GUT REHABS, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE
5:42:25PM THAT CHANGE AND DO LARGER REHABS.
5:42:28PM THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY IS 25,000 OR SOMEONE IS DISABLED OR
5:42:33PM SPECIAL NEEDS, WE GO TO 35,000.
5:42:36PM WE WERE JUST HITTING MAJOR SYSTEMS.
5:42:39PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE THESE STRAIGHT GRANTS OR IS THERE A
5:42:41PM REPAYER?
5:42:42PM >> THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS CHANGING, IF THEY NEED REPAIRS
5:42:46PM OVER 30,000, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPAY THOSE FUNDS.
5:42:49PM BUT UP TO 30,000 IT'S A GRANT.
5:42:52PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IS THAT DONE THROUGH -- WHAT'S THAT
5:42:55PM PLACE OVER THERE BY THE SOUNDBRIDGE, DAVIS --
5:43:00PM >> OH, CENTER FOR WOMEN?
5:43:02PM THEY DID NOT RESPOND TO THE RFP. WE HAD TWO --
5:43:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY USED TO DO THIS SERVICE WITH US,
5:43:07PM RIGHT?
5:43:08PM >> THEY STILL DO THE SERVICE USING STATE FUND.
5:43:10PM THEY ARE NOT DOING SERVICE WITH OUR FUNDS.
5:43:13PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I ASSUME -- SO YOU PUT OUT AN RFP.
5:43:17PM OFF NEW VENDOR OR WHAT?
5:43:19PM >> YES.
5:43:20PM WE ARE DOING CONTRACTS FOR EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC
5:43:22PM ASSOCIATION, AND CDC OF TAMPA WERE THE TWO RESPONDENTS.
5:43:27PM AND WE AWARD TO BOTH.
5:43:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY DO THE QUALIFYING AND TRAINING AND
5:43:30PM THE WHOLE NINE YARDS?
5:43:31PM >> ACTUALLY, THE QUALIFYING IS DONE THROUGH OUR OFFICE, AND
5:43:35PM SALITAS HOUSE.
5:43:38PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
5:43:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE THESE OUR QUALIFICATIONS?
5:43:47PM THESE FUNDS FOR REHAB.
5:43:49PM >> THEY ARE FEDERAL AND OURS, WHICH -- SO THE 80% OF AREA
5:43:54PM MEDIAN WOULD BE A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT, AND THE FIVE YEARS IS
5:43:58PM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO PURCHASE A HOME
5:44:01PM THAT'S IN NEED OF REHAB.
5:44:03PM WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PROGRAM INFORM THAT.
5:44:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE ONLY FUNDS THAT WE HAVE VERSUS WHAT WE
5:44:07PM HAVE NOW WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE STATE.
5:44:14PM THE FUNDING NOW 80%, THAT'S THE FEDERAL PART.
5:44:17PM WE HAVE NO OTHER FUND THAT CAN HELP SOMEBODY, BECAUSE YOU
5:44:22PM KNOW IN SOME COMMUNITIES, SOME PEOPLE STILL ARE NOT GOING TO
5:44:25PM BE ABLE TO MEET THAT THRESHOLD, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMES
5:44:27PM IN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE BLIGHTED AND NEED REHABBED.
5:44:31PM SO I AM JUST WONDERING IS THERE ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE
5:44:34PM WITHIN THIS PROPOSAL, OR IS THIS ALL WE HAVE?
5:44:36PM >> THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
5:44:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
5:44:42PM >> WE ARE HAPPY TO ACCEPT GENERAL FUNDS.
5:44:44PM [ LAUGHTER ]
5:44:49PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO GOING BACK TO THIS, I DON'T DOUBT THE
5:44:56PM NEED, AND I THINK IT GREAT THAT THE CITY, FEDS, STATE, WHAT
5:45:02PM HAVE YOU, CAN FULFILL THIS NEED.
5:45:05PM HELP PEOPLE HAVE A HABITABLE PLACE, AS YOU SAY, AGE IN
5:45:09PM PLACE.
5:45:13PM I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
5:45:14PM WHAT I WONDER ABOUT, OKAY, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY IS XX NUMBER
5:45:18PM OF YEARS OLD AND THEY FIX THIS UP AND THEY PASS AWAY WITHIN
5:45:21PM A YEAR OR TWO, THE FAMILY GETS THE HOUSE, AND THEN THEY SELL
5:45:25PM THE HOUSE, NOW THEY HAVE THIS REHABBED HOUSE THAT WE JUST
5:45:29PM PUT IN, OH, YOU GOT A SOLUTION TO THIS?
5:45:31PM >> YES, SORRY. I DIDN'T MENTION THAT WE DO PUT A LIEN ON
5:45:34PM THE PROPERTY.
5:45:35PM AND SO IF THEY T OWNER WANTS WAS TO PASS BEFORE THE LIEN HAD
5:45:41PM EXPIRED, THEN THE FAMILY WOULD EITHER PAY IT BACK, OR IF THE
5:45:47PM FAMILY WAS ELIGIBLE THEY COULD ASSUME THE LOAN.
5:45:52PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I ASKED BEFORE IF THERE WAS A GRANT.
5:45:54PM >> SORRY, I DIDN'T -- I MISSPOKE.
5:45:57PM IT'S A DEFERRED LOAN.
5:46:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND HOW LONG IS IT FOR?
5:46:03PM >> IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDE FOR
5:46:06PM THEM.
5:46:06PM AND I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT
5:46:08PM TO DO THIS YEAR IS TO COME AND MEET WITH EACH OF THE COUNCIL
5:46:13PM MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY, ONE TO GO OVER THE ACTION PLAN, BUT
5:46:16PM TWO, TO PREPARE FOR THE WORKSHOP ON JUNE 20th.
5:46:20PM I'M PUTTING TOGETHER A BINDER THAT WILL WE'LL GO OVER BUT I
5:46:24PM DON'T THINK IN A WORKSHOP WE CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE BINDER
5:46:26PM SO I THOUGHT I WOULD COME OUT AND MEET WITH EACH COUNCIL
5:46:29PM MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
5:46:32PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO JUST FOR TONIGHT, SINCE I HAVE BEEN
5:46:36PM EVERYBODY WAITING FOR THE ANSWERS -- I'M JUST KIDDING.
5:46:41PM SO --
5:46:45PM >> TEN YEARS UP TO 30,000, AND THEN BE IT'S 15 TO 45?
5:46:57PM THERE'S A SCHEDULE.
5:46:58PM SORRY.
5:46:58PM WE ARE ONLY JUST NOW GOING ABOVE THE SCHEDULE.
5:47:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HAVE THERE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE THIS
5:47:10PM HAS HAPPENED, WHERE THE FAMILY GETS IT, KICKS IN, WE GET
5:47:17PM SATISFIED, SO WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR MONEY BACK?
5:47:19PM NO INTEREST, I WOULD ASSUME?
5:47:20PM >> RIGHT.
5:47:22PM WE HAVE A HOUSING PORTFOLIO SPECIALIST THAT MANAGES OUR
5:47:25PM PORTFOLIO, WHICH IS ABOUT 60 MILLION.
5:47:29PM MOST OF THOSE ARE DEFENDED, BUT WE ARE MONITORING.
5:47:32PM WE VERIFY ANNUALLY THAT THEY STILL LIVE IN THE HOME, THAT
5:47:36PM THEY HAVEN'T RENTED IT OUT.
5:47:37PM WE HAVE HAD INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE RENTED THE HOUSE OUT AND
5:47:42PM THE LOAN CONVERTED TO PAYING, IF IT CONVERTS TO A PAYING
5:47:45PM LOAN, THERE'S 3%.
5:47:47PM BUT IF THE HOLME HOMEOWNER DIED, WE HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE
5:47:51PM ASSUME.
5:47:51PM WE HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE PAY OFF.
5:47:53PM WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE REFINANCE TO TAKE OUR LIEN OFF OF THE
5:47:58PM PROPERTY.
5:47:59PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.
5:47:59PM THANK YOU.
5:48:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
5:48:02PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
5:48:05PM OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:48:07PM NEXT WE HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM FROM PARKS AND RECREATION.
5:48:17PM WHERE IS OUR ATTORNEY?
5:48:19PM >> WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
5:48:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE RIGHT, WE DO.
5:48:25PM SHOULD WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE PRESENTATION?
5:48:28PM OKAY, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
5:48:29PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:48:36PM BRAD SIRR WITH PARKS AND RECREATION.
5:48:40PM ASKING YOU REQUEST TO CONSIDER A MEMORANDUM BETWEEN THE CITY
5:48:44PM AND THE INSTITUTE AND THE FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE
5:48:48PM COMMISSION.
5:48:50PM THIS IS FOR RESTORATION WORK AT THE ULELE SPRING TIDAL
5:48:56PM BASIN.
5:48:57PM WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS AFTER SOME HEAVY
5:49:00PM RAIN EVENTS, HAD SOME EROSION ISSUES THERE, THAT HAVE NOT
5:49:05PM BEEN ABLE TO BE SUBSIDED.
5:49:07PM FISH AND GAME AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS RECOGNIZED
5:49:11PM THAT, SO MONEY IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO FIX THAT
5:49:16PM ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
5:49:18PM WHAT IS HAPPENING IS GOING INTO THE LOWER BASIN, IT'S SHE
5:49:24PM WILLING OUT THE BASIN, AND THE WORK PROPOSED IS TO DO A
5:49:26PM SMALL RETAINING WALL, PUT A SERIES OF STEPS, NOT ONLY WITH
5:49:30PM THE FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION BUT ALSO THE U.S.
5:49:33PM FISH AND WILD LIVE COMMISSION, SO ALSO GOING TO PUT IN
5:49:36PM MONEY.
5:49:37PM SO IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
5:49:38PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE AWKWARDNESS OF THIS WALK-ON.
5:49:41PM BUT THE PROCESS IS ATTORNEY REVIEW, AND AGREEMENT ON HOW IT
5:49:48PM CHANGED, AT THE END OF THEIR FISCAL YEAR IS REQUIRING US TO
5:49:51PM DO THIS ACTION NOW TONIGHT.
5:49:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
5:49:59PM NONE?
5:50:00PM IS ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON WALK-ON
5:50:03PM ITEM WHICH IS HEREBY REFERRED TO AS ITEM NUMBER 2?
5:50:07PM IF SO, COME FORWARD, PLEASE.
5:50:09PM OKAY.
5:50:10PM SEEING NONE, I GUESS COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU FEEL
5:50:16PM COMFORTABLE, SIR?
5:50:20PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
5:50:22PM MANISCALCO.
5:50:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:50:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:50:25PM THANK YOU, SIR.
5:50:26PM ENJOY YOUR DRIVE BACK TO DISTRICT 7.
5:50:29PM NOW WE HAVE 12 MINUTES UNTIL 6:00 SO WE WILL ASK COUNCIL TO
5:50:35PM GO INTO RECESS AND SHALL RETURN AT 6:00.
5:50:38PM THANK YOU ALL.
5:50:42PM OH, YES?
5:50:46PM >> I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO MAKE
5:50:49PM COMMENTS ON THE ACTION PLAN.
5:50:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY SINCERE POLLUTIONS.
5:50:54PM YOU ARE TO MAKE COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
5:50:57PM IF SO, PLEASE STAND UP.
5:51:09PM OKAY.
5:51:09PM SEEING NONE, THEN WE WILL STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 6:00.
5:51:14PM (CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS UNTIL 6:00 P.M.)
5:51:28PM
5:51:32PM
5:51:32PM [SOUNDING GAVEL]
6:03:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS CALLED INTO SESSION
6:03:44PM FOR THE EVENING.
6:03:45PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
6:03:46PM >>
6:03:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
6:03:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
6:03:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
6:03:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
6:03:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
6:03:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
6:03:57PM EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE WHO PLANS ON TESTIFYING TONIGHT OR
6:04:00PM SPEAKING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, STAND UP, IN THAT
6:04:04PM ORDER, AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.
6:04:06PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
6:04:09PM >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY
6:04:20PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:04:21PM THANK YOU.
6:04:23PM WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST FOR NUMBER 5 TO BE MOVED UP TO THE
6:04:26PM FIRST ITEM THIS EVENING.
6:04:27PM ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THAT?
6:04:36PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
6:04:38PM COORDINATION.
6:04:38PM THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS REZ 19-49, A REZONING FOR SEMINOLE
6:04:44PM HEIGHTS, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
6:04:48PM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
6:04:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:04:53PM >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
6:05:00PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
6:05:02PM THE ONE AND ONLY ZONING CASE THIS EVENING IS IN THE CENTRAL
6:05:04PM TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE SEMINOLE
6:05:08PM HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
6:05:11PM ALSO THE SUBJECT SITE FALLS WITHIN THE SOUTH SEMINOLE
6:05:15PM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:05:17PM THERE IS TRANSIT SERVICE ON EAST HILLSBOROUGH, THE RAPID
6:05:24PM METRO SERVICE, AND HART 34, AND THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN
6:05:29PM EVACUATION ZONE.
6:05:30PM ONTO THE AERIAL.
6:05:34PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE IN THE CENTER.
6:05:36PM THIS IS I-275.
6:05:38PM WE HAVE EAST HILLSBOROUGH.
6:05:40PM THIS IS NEBRASKA.
6:05:44PM THE TACO BUS IS OVER HERE A BLOCK TO THE EAST.
6:05:49PM THE STARBUCK'S ON HILLSBOROUGH IS ABOUT A BLOCK ON THE OTHER
6:05:52PM SIDE.
6:05:54PM ONTO THE WEST, YOU CAN SEE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
6:05:57PM PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, WHILE TO THE EAST AND
6:06:02PM NORTH IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL, RIGHT ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
6:06:07PM THEN OF COURSE TOUGH INTERCHANGE AND THE EXIT NEXT TO THE
6:06:10PM SUBJECT SITE.
6:06:12PM ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
6:06:15PM THE SUBJECT SITE IN RED AND ALL THIS REDHEADS EAST DOWN TO
6:06:21PM HILLSBOROUGH.
6:06:21PM THAT'S THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
6:06:23PM DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE RESIDENTIAL
6:06:27PM 20.
6:06:28PM AND IT GOES DOWN A RESIDENTIAL 10 FURTHER SOUTH.
6:06:33PM SOUTH ON NEBRASKA YOU HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, AND
6:06:38PM THAT PINK COLOR IS CONTINUED WEST OF THE INTERSTATE
6:06:44PM INTERCHANGE TOWARD CENTRAL AND HILLSBOROUGH.
6:06:50PM THE REQUEST IS TO -- SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
6:06:56PM NEIGHBORHOOD. THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN A MAJOR
6:07:00PM INTERSECTION WITHIN AN IDENTIFIED URBAN VILLAGE AND IS
6:07:04PM LOCATED WITHIN A RECOGNIZED COMMUNITY KNOWN AS THE GREATER
6:07:09PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS VISION PLAN.
6:07:10PM THE PROPOSED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CM ZONING IS LESS INTENSIVE
6:07:14PM THAN THE EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES LOCATED TO THE NORTH AND
6:07:18PM TO THE EAST.
6:07:19PM OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
6:07:21PM OVERALL, WITH ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETING THE
6:07:24PM REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS FORM-BASED CODE, THE
6:07:27PM PROPOSED REZONING WOULD PROVIDE FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD
6:07:30PM BE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
6:07:33PM PATTERN, WHILE ALSO BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-TERM
6:07:37PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDERSTOOD THE COMMUNITY
6:07:40PM COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
6:07:42PM BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
6:07:47PM RECOMMENDS THIS EVENING THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING BE FOUND
6:07:50PM CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 BE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
6:07:54PM PLAN.
6:07:54PM THANK YOU.
6:07:54PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: HERE IS THE ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS THE
6:08:07PM SURROUNDING AREA.
6:08:08PM IN GREEN AS STATED PREVIOUSLY IS CURRENTLY SPLIT ZONING WITH
6:08:12PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY
6:08:16PM RESIDENTIAL.
6:08:18PM THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SHOWN IN GREEN
6:08:20PM TO GO TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:08:24PM AS FAR AS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND EXISTING ZONING,
6:08:27PM THERE'S COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THE NORTH, SOME SINGLE-FAMILY,
6:08:31PM RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
6:08:34PM OVER TO THE EAST, ON BOTH SIDES OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, AND
6:08:37PM THEN HERE IS THE INTERSTATE, AND THEN COMMERCIAL USES
6:08:40PM CONTINUE TO THE WEST ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
6:08:46PM THE SITE IS A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRES.
6:08:49PM IT MEETS THE DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
6:08:53PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT.
6:08:55PM BECAUSE THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING DISTRICT THERE'S NO SITE
6:08:59PM PLAN REVIEW NOR WAIVERS TO REVIEW OR APPROVE.
6:09:05PM THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH ANY
6:09:08PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USE AND COMPLY WITH THE FORM BASED
6:09:11PM CODE IF APPROVED.
6:09:17PM FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
6:09:20PM ORDINANCES.
6:09:21PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
6:09:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:09:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT PROPERTY, IS THAT THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
6:09:28PM CHURCH?
6:09:29PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
6:09:30PM THE BAPTIST CHURCH.
6:09:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT STILL AN OPERATING CHURCH?
6:09:38PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
6:09:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
6:09:42PM OKAY.
6:09:42PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
6:09:43PM IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM 5?
6:09:55PM DAVE WILLIAMS, ONE HARBOR PLACE, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
6:10:00PM ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BAPTIST
6:10:02PM CHURCH.
6:10:05PM THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE CHURCH PROPERTY FROM SH RM
6:10:11PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND SH-RS, SEMINOLE
6:10:15PM HEIGHTS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL TO CH-CM,
6:10:18PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:10:20PM THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ON NEBRASKA AVENUE
6:10:25PM IS CURRENTLY ZONED CI.
6:10:31PM WE ARE NOT ASKING -- THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST.
6:10:33PM IT'S STILL OWNED BY THE CHURCH.
6:10:40PM THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS A CHURCH BUILDING AND CONNECTED
6:10:42PM ANCILLARY BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT IN 1948 AND HAS
6:10:46PM APPROXIMATELY 48,000 SQUARE FEET.
6:10:48PM THE BEHIND THE CHURCH ALONG TALIAFERRO AVENUE IS AN OLD FIRE
6:10:53PM STATION BUILT IN 1924 WITH ABOUT 3300 SQUARE FEET.
6:10:57PM THESE STRUCTURES ARE GOING TO STAY THE SAME.
6:10:59PM NO PLANS TO CHANGE THEM.
6:11:02PM ALSO, THE PROPERTY HAS 217 PARKING SPACES.
6:11:06PM VERY LARGE PARKING LOT ON THE SITE.
6:11:11PM THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS THAT THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL
6:11:14PM ZONING CLASSIFICATION DOES NOT ALLOW A CHURCH AS A PERMITTED
6:11:19PM USE, AND THE PETITIONER WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THIS
6:11:22PM DISCREPANCY SUCH THAT THE ZONING MAP RETURNS THE USE OF THE
6:11:26PM PROPERTY AS A CHURCH.
6:11:27PM THE OTHER POSITIVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING, THE CHURCH COULD
6:11:32PM OPERATE ON THE THINGS LIKE DAYCARE, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE
6:11:35PM CONSISTENT WITH A CHURCH OPERATION.
6:11:37PM RIGHT NOW IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
6:11:40PM THIS REQUEST THAT WE MADE IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE REQUEST TO
6:11:44PM THE SH CM.
6:11:47PM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING
6:11:49PM CLASSIFICATION, TRYING TO FIND THE LEAST INTENSIVE USE
6:11:53PM CLASSIFICATION TO KEEP THE CHURCH -- IT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR
6:11:58PM WHAT I'M TOLD BEFORE THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT SINCE THE
6:12:03PM 20s, SO A LONG TIME.
6:12:08PM THE DRC STAFF RETURNED DETERMINED THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST
6:12:11PM IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND
6:12:15PM THE CC 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION BE ON THE
6:12:20PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS FOR THIS, WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH
6:12:24PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
6:12:25PM IN ADDITION, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
6:12:28PM HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND FOUND THAT IT'S CONSISTENT
6:12:33PM WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
6:12:40PM EUCLIDEAN ZONING, THERE'S NO PLAN TO RENOVATE, MODIFY THE
6:12:45PM EXISTING STRUCTURE OR ADD STRUCTURES. THIS IS MERELY TO BE
6:12:50PM CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT USE, LONG-TERM USE.
6:12:56PM SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THIS
6:12:59PM REZONING SO THAT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH CAN
6:13:02PM CONTINUE ITS LONG HISTORY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SEMINOLE
6:13:04PM HEIGHTS.
6:13:06PM SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.
6:13:10PM WE HAVE PASTOR BRANT ADAMS HERE ALONG WITH QUITE A NUMBER OF
6:13:14PM PARISHIONERS THAT ARE WILLING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
6:13:17PM ZONING REQUEST.
6:13:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
6:13:19PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE PETITIONER?
6:13:24PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST HISTORICALLY, HOW, WHEN AND WHY DID
6:13:28PM THAT BECOME RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
6:13:31PM SINGLE-FAMILY?
6:13:32PM BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN THE WHOLE FORM-BASED CODE,
6:13:36PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THING SWITCHED OVER, THAT THIS WOULD HAVE
6:13:39PM GOTTEN MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE RELIGIOUS USE
6:13:43PM DESIGNATION ANYWAY.
6:13:44PM >> WHAT I WAS TOLD, I THINK THIS WAS DONE AROUND 2007, 2008.
6:13:49PM I THINK SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CATEGORIES WERE SET UP.
6:13:53PM BUT THE CHURCH DOESN'T HAVE RECORDS.
6:13:59PM I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION --
6:14:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT LOOKS LIKE MARY MIGHT HAVE AN ANSWER.
6:14:05PM DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER?
6:14:07PM SORRY.
6:14:09PM THANK YOU.
6:14:09PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IT OKAY.
6:14:14PM UNDER THE PREVIOUS ZONING, THIS WAS AN RS DISTRICT AND RN
6:14:20PM DISTRICT IT SO WHAT THEY DID WHEN THEY CREATED THE SEMINOLE
6:14:22PM HEIGHTS ZONING -- FORM-BASED CODE DISTRICT, THEY KIND OF
6:14:27PM MIRRORED WHAT THE EUCLIDEAN STANDARD WAS IN THE AREA.
6:14:34PM I BELIEVE REQUESTED CHANGES TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, THAT
6:14:40PM DIDN'T HAPPEN.
6:14:41PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE SORT OF CREATED A NONCONFORMING USE IN
6:14:44PM THAT LARGE REZONING PROCESS?
6:14:47PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: WELL, IT'S REALLY NOT NONCONFORMING.
6:14:50PM PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS AN ALLOWABLE USE, BUT YOU
6:14:53PM HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL USE 2 PROCESS WHICH TAKES ABOUT
6:14:56PM FIVE MONTHS AND REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
6:14:59PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU.
6:15:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE FURTHER?
6:15:04PM OKAY.
6:15:05PM THANK YOU, SIR.
6:15:09PM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT ON ITEM
6:15:12PM NUMBER 5?
6:15:13PM IF SO, STAND UP AND COME FORWARD.
6:15:17PM AND IF ANYONE IS HERE FROM THE CHURCH AND WANTS TO ADDRESS
6:15:20PM US, NOW IS YOUR TIME TO DO SO.
6:15:24PM AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:15:26PM >> I'M BRANT ADAMS, PASTOR OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BAPTIST
6:15:32PM CHURCH, JUST TRYING TO GET OUR ZONING TO WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE
6:15:34PM ANY OTHER CHURCH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ANY OTHER CHURCH IN
6:15:36PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BEEN HERE ALMOST 100
6:15:40PM YEARS.
6:15:41PM THAT'S ALL WE ARE DOING.
6:15:43PM THAT'S ALL I GOT.
6:15:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, PASTOR.
6:15:46PM >> STEVE McCAIN, TRUSTEE AND DEACON OF THE CHURCH HERE IN
6:15:59PM SUPPORT OF THE REZONING REQUEST TO GET IT IN LINE WITH THE
6:16:08PM STANDARD THAT WE WOULD EXPECT FOR A CHURCH, SO WE CAN
6:16:13PM SUPPORT OUR LONG-TERM GOALS TO CONTINUE AS A CHURCH FOR THE
6:16:19PM NEXT HUNDRED YEARS ANYWAY.
6:16:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU GET MORE JOKES ABOUT BEING THE WRITER
6:16:29PM OR THE --
6:16:31PM >> THE WRITER.
6:16:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS.
6:16:34PM THANK YOU, SIR.
6:16:36PM ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 5?
6:16:41PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:16:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:16:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:16:53PM WOULD YOU TAKE ITEM NUMBER 5?
6:16:55PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
6:16:59PM THANK YOU.
6:16:59PM LET ME FIND THE DESCRIPTION.
6:17:08PM OKAY.
6:17:13PM WORKING BACKWARDS.
6:17:20PM MOVE REZONING 19-49 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
6:17:25PM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 801 EAST HILLSBOROUGH
6:17:28PM AVENUE AND 5315 NORTH TALIAFERRO AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
6:17:32PM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
6:17:34PM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS SH-RM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
6:17:38PM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND SH-RS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
6:17:42PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO SH-CN, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
6:17:46PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:17:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
6:17:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:17:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:17:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:17:55PM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6:17:57PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION TO BE HELD ON JUNE 27, 2019 AT
6:18:02PM 9:30 A.M.
6:18:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
6:18:05PM NOW WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 2, PLEASE.
6:18:07PM >> RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 2. RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING,
6:18:15PM DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. APPLICATION AB-19-12,
6:18:15PM LOCATED AT 1925 EAST 6th AVENUE.
6:18:18PM THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS YC 7 MIXED USE, AND
6:18:21PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CMU-35, COMMUNITY MIXED USE.
6:18:26PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
6:18:28PM APPLICATION AND FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE
6:18:30PM CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
6:18:34PM MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ARE NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST
6:18:37PM AND SECOND READING.
6:18:38PM THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING SPECIAL USE APPROVAL
6:18:41PM TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR A SMALL VENUE,
6:18:44PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE
6:18:47PM SALES OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
6:18:49PM THE LAND USE ACCORDING TO THE CITY RECORDS IS FOR AN OFFICE,
6:18:52PM BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL.
6:18:53PM THE PROPOSED USES ARE LISTED AS BAR, RETAIL SALES, OFFICE,
6:18:56PM BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL.
6:18:57PM THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 2,177 SQUARE FEET, WHICH CONTAINS
6:19:03PM 1,905 SQUARE FEET INDOOR AND 272 SQUARE FEET OUTDOOR.
6:19:09PM THE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED USE IS 1 PER THOUSAND
6:19:12PM SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA FOR OFFICE, BUSINESS OR
6:19:15PM PROFESSIONAL AND 3 PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR
6:19:19PM AREA FOR BAR AND RETAIL SALES.
6:19:21PM THIS REQUIRES A TOTAL OF 12 PARKING SPACES FOR ALL THE
6:19:23PM PROPOSED USES LISTED IN THE SPECIAL USE. THE SITE IS
6:19:27PM PROVIDING FOUR ON-SITE PARKING SPACES WHICH IS A 67%
6:19:30PM REDUCTION FROM THE REQUIRED 12 ON-SITE PARKING SPACES.
6:19:33PM I DO HAVE A CORRECTION FOR THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS
6:19:36PM PRESENTED TO YOU.
6:19:37PM E-119-138 IS THE CORRECT NUMBER.
6:19:41PM IT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THAT'S FOR THE BUFFER REDUCTION.
6:19:44PM THAT WAS BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT AND THE
6:19:46PM RESIDENTIAL THAT WAS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.
6:19:48PM SO THAT DESIGN EXCEPTION HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THAT REDUCED
6:19:51PM BUFFERING REQUIREMENT.
6:19:52PM THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE YBOR CITY URBAN VILLAGE AND THE
6:19:55PM DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB
6:19:58PM SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
6:19:59PM THE SITE PLAN SAYS HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE CONSISTENT
6:20:04PM WITH CHAPTER 14; ALSO THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT BE LOCATED
6:20:07PM WITHIN ANY PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE, AND ALL PERMITS
6:20:09PM ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT ON-SITE AND A COPY
6:20:15PM OF THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND THE ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN FOR
6:20:18PM ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT.
6:20:19PM AS STATED, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DID
6:20:21PM FIND IT INCONSISTENT AND THAT'S PER SECTIONS 27-132, THE
6:20:25PM REDUCTION IN REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB
6:20:29PM SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, THE REQUIREMENT AGAIN IS 250 FEET AND
6:20:32PM THEY ARE AT 165 FEET.
6:20:34PM ALSO SECTION 27.283.7 WHICH IS THE REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED
6:20:38PM PARKING SPACES FROM 12 SPACES REQUIRED TO THE 4 PROVIDED
6:20:41PM WHICH IS AGAIN 67% REDUCTION.
6:20:43PM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ALSO FOUND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO
6:20:46PM 27-283.7.
6:20:49PM THE WAIVERS BEFORE YOU ON THE SITE PLAN BEING PRESENTED
6:20:52PM TONIGHT COME FROM 27-283.7 AND THAT'S TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
6:20:57PM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 12 TO 4, 67% REDUCTION, AND
6:21:02PM SECTION 27-132 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION TO
6:21:06PM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 250 FEET TO 165 FEET.
6:21:10PM THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IN THE URBAN VILLAGE
6:21:13PM WHICH IS AGAIN THE 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES
6:21:16PM ESTABLISHMENTS IS THE DIRTY SHAME LOCATED AT 1927 EAST 7TH
6:21:20PM AVENUE, ZONED YC 1 AND IT HOLDS A 4(COP) ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
6:21:24PM LICENSE AND IS 165 FEET AWAY.
6:21:28PM PLANNING AND TRANSIT FOUND IT'S LOCATED IN HISTORIC YBOR
6:21:32PM CITY AND YBOR CITY URBAN VILLAGE, AS WELL AS JUST INCLUDED
6:21:35PM WITH THE TRANSIT FINDINGS FOUND THAT THERE'S A CITY OF TAMPA
6:21:38PM PAID PARKING LOT DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT
6:21:41PM DOESN'T RELATE TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS WAIVER BUT I JUST
6:21:44PM WANTED TO PRESENT THAT FOR YOU TONIGHT.
6:21:45PM OTHER CODE CRITERIA FOR CITY COUNCIL REFERENCE FOR
6:21:47PM CONSIDERATION COME FROM SECTION 27-43 AND THAT'S OUR
6:21:51PM DEFINITIONS. IN THAT, WE DEFINE THE AB CLASSIFICATION WHICH
6:21:54PM IS ALCOHOLIC SALES CLASSIFICATION OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR
6:21:58PM AND ALSO THE PROPOSED USE OF THE BAR, THE RETAIL SALES AND
6:22:01PM THE OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED
6:22:05PM SPECIAL USE BEFORE YOU IS DEFINED AS A SMALL VENUE WHICH IS
6:22:07PM A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT WITH LESS THAN 300-PERSON
6:22:10PM OCCUPANCY WHICH SELLS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
6:22:13PM OTHER SECTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ARE SECTION 27-129
6:22:16PM WHICH ARE GENERAL STANDARDS, AS WELL AS 27-132 REGULATIONS
6:22:21PM GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES.
6:22:31PM AND THIS IS A VICINITY MAP OF THE AREA.
6:22:34PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED RIGHT HERE.
6:22:37PM THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT, TO GIVE YOU SOME OUTLINE
6:22:42PM IS THE DIRTY SHAME LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
6:22:49PM THE TOP PICTURE IS THE NORTH BASE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S
6:22:52PM BUILT.
6:22:52PM THE PICTURE BELOW IS FROM THE SOUTH BASE OF THE STRUCTURE.
6:22:55PM THIS IS THE ON-SITE PARKING RIGHT HERE, THE FOUR SPACES THAT
6:22:58PM PROVIDED.
6:23:01PM THE TOP PICTURE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING
6:23:05PM WEST DOWN 6th AVENUE.
6:23:06PM THIS WOULD BE WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN
6:23:08PM THE BUFFER REQUIREMENT BETWEEN THE ESTABLISHMENT AS WELL AS
6:23:11PM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL USE.
6:23:14PM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS APPROVED.
6:23:17PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH IN FRONT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
6:23:20PM THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKING LOCALITY.
6:23:22PM 7th AVENUE HERE, THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
6:23:26PM DIRECTLY EAST IS THE FAMILY USE, AS WELL AS HERE IS A
6:23:33PM PICTURE SHOWING SOUTH ON 20th STREET AND THEN NORTH ON
6:23:36PM 20Th STREET TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF THE AREA.
6:23:38PM THE SITE PLAN WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS
6:23:42PM A CORRECTED VERSION.
6:23:44PM THERE WOULD BE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE LANGUAGE THAT
6:23:46PM I SENT TO YOU PREVIOUSLY JUST BECAUSE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION
6:23:48PM WAS APPROVED AFTER I SENT THE STAFF REPORTS.
6:23:50PM I'LL MAKE SURE THAT ANY GUIDANCE THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE ON
6:23:54PM THIS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ WILL BE ADDED, AND TPD
6:23:57PM DID DO A REPORT ON THIS AND THEY FOUND NO OBJECTION TO THE
6:24:00PM REQUEST.
6:24:01PM THEY DID STATE HOWEVER THAT THE SITE -- THEY HAD A CONCERN
6:24:06PM FOR LACK OF PARKING.
6:24:07PM STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
6:24:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:24:10PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
6:24:18PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE]
6:24:33PM >> SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED AND THE DIRTY
6:24:36PM SHAME WOULD BE UP HERE ON 7th AVENUE.
6:24:38PM THAT'S THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
6:24:41PM THE WAY ITS MEASURED IS FROM A STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE
6:24:44PM CLOSEST POINT OF THE ALCOHOLIC SALES AREA WHICH WOULD BE
6:24:47PM THIS NORTH PORTION, AND A STRAIGHT LINE TO THE BOUNDARY.
6:24:51PM SO THAT PROPERTY GIVES YOU THAT 165 FEET.
6:24:57PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] AND WANTS US TO WAIVE
6:25:02PM IT.
6:25:02PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
6:25:04PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I HAVE GOT SOME INITIAL CONCERNS, AND
6:25:07PM I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MR. BENTLEY TO ALLAY THOSE
6:25:10PM CONCERNS.
6:25:11PM BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU SHOWED SOME PICTURES OF RESIDENTIAL
6:25:18PM PROPERTIES APPROXIMATE TO THIS, IF YOU COULD POINT ON THAT
6:25:22PM AERIAL, WHERE WOULD THOSE RESIDENTIAL BE?
6:25:25PM >> THESE TO WOULD BE THE PICTURES THAT YOU ARE REFERENCING
6:25:28PM TO THAT I SHOWED.
6:25:29PM AND THIS WOULD BE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, THIS STRUCTURE RIGHT
6:25:32PM HERE.
6:25:34PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL, THAT L SHAPE?
6:25:36PM >> CORRECT.
6:25:37PM THERE IS MIXED USE WITH RESIDENTIAL ON TOP.
6:25:39PM I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME OFFICE, OTHER USES ESTABLISHED THERE.
6:25:42PM AGAIN IT'S NOT A DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FOR THE
6:25:44PM SPECIAL USE.
6:25:50PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ASSUME THIS IS PART OF THE RECORD.
6:25:55PM IF NOT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS.
6:25:58PM COUNCIL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM UNIQUE POSITIVE PROPERTIES
6:26:02PM SERVICES, MR. KESSLER, RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT, I GUESS, HIS
6:26:09PM CLIENT IS AT 5th AVENUE VILLAS CONDOMINIUM.
6:26:12PM ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH 5th AVENUE VILLAS CONDOMINIUM?
6:26:15PM >> I AM NOT.
6:26:16PM I RECEIVED A LETTER AND IT'S FILED IN THE CASE FOR YOUR
6:26:19PM REVIEW.
6:26:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD ASSUME, I GUESS THAT'S THE ONE
6:26:24PM YOU JUST POINTED TO RIGHT HERE.
6:26:26PM EITHER THERE OR ALONG 5th AVENUE.
6:26:28PM >> THERE MAY BE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT.
6:26:32PM I'M NOT SURE.
6:26:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID ALL COUNCIL GET THIS AS PART OF
6:26:38PM THE --
6:26:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THIS?
6:26:44PM YES.
6:26:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD INQUIRE.
6:26:47PM MR. BENTLEY, ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT LETTER THAT'S BEEN MADE
6:26:50PM REFERENCE TO?
6:26:51PM >>MARK BENTLEY: YES, SIR.
6:26:55PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE MR. SHELBY WILL --
6:26:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD
6:27:01PM OPPORTUNITY THEN TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE
6:27:03PM BEEN AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION TO CITY COUNCIL AT THIS
6:27:07PM TIME.
6:27:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
6:27:10PM CAN WE HAVE A MOTION?
6:27:13PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:27:15PM SECOND BY GUDES.
6:27:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:27:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:27:24PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IN THAT LETTER, THEY INDICATE CONCERN
6:27:26PM ABOUT THE HOURS AS WELL AS EXTERIOR VIEWS.
6:27:32PM YOU HAD MENTIONED HOURS, YOU SAID, I THINK CONSISTENT WITH
6:27:35PM CHAPTER 14, WHICH WAS 3 A.M. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
6:27:40PM >> THE APPLICATION HAS REQUESTED HOURS BE CONSISTENT WITH
6:27:43PM CHAPTER 14.
6:27:44PM CHAPTER 14, WHICH I DO HAVE A COPY OF JUST IN CASE ANYONE
6:27:49PM WANTS TO SEE IT.
6:27:51PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE NEIGHBORS SUGGESTING --
6:27:53PM >> AND THAT'S BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE AGENT.
6:27:55PM WE CAN OF COURSE AMEND IF SITE PLAN BETWEEN THIS READING AND
6:27:59PM SECOND READING TO PUT DOWN A STIPULATION THAT YOU MAY COME
6:28:02PM TO AGREEMENT ON TONIGHT.
6:28:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE ANY REFERENCE TO -- THEY ALSO
6:28:10PM EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT MUSIC.
6:28:12PM THEY SAY THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY OUTSIDE MUSIC.
6:28:15PM >> SO STANDARD WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA -- WE HAVE A NOISE
6:28:19PM ORDINANCE, AND THAT'S --
6:28:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION.
6:28:22PM MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE REFERENCE, SPECIFIC REFERENCE ON
6:28:26PM THE SITE PLAN TO EXTERIOR MUSIC?
6:28:30PM >> YES, SIR.
6:28:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO UNDER THE CODE, ARGUABLY THEY COULD
6:28:34PM HAVE IT, IF THEY HAVE ANY EXTERIOR SPACE, BECAUSE THE CODE
6:28:37PM DOES ALLOW IT.
6:28:38PM >> IF THEY MEET THE NOISE REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED BY CITY
6:28:41PM CODE ALREADY.
6:28:42PM IT'S NOT A CODE REQUIREMENT.
6:28:44PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
6:28:46PM >> CORRECT. YOU CAN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD IN THE
6:28:49PM PAST WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOTES PUT ON-SITE PLANS, NO
6:28:53PM AMPLIFIED SOUND AND WHATNOT.
6:28:55PM OF COURSE, WE CAN ADD THAT.
6:28:56PM BUT FOR THE REVIEW, THE SPECIAL USE, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT
6:28:59PM FOR THAT.
6:29:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
6:29:00PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL COUNCIL HAS THIS LETTER .
6:29:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, CAN YOU PASS YOUR
6:29:11PM COPY?
6:29:12PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
6:29:13PM EITHER THAT OR ASK SOMEBODY.
6:29:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
6:29:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS A BAR PLUS PACKAGE STORE OR A BAR?
6:29:36PM >> IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS THE SPECIAL USE.
6:29:38PM THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS THE SMALL VENUE.
6:29:40PM TYPICALLY A BAR CANNOT HAVE PACKAGE SALES.
6:29:43PM SO THE APPLICANT CAME IN AS A SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND
6:29:48PM LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, SO YOU CAN DRINK ON
6:29:51PM PREMISES, AS WELL AS PACKAGE SALES.
6:29:54PM THAT'S THE OUTLINE OF IT.
6:29:56PM WE TYPICALLY HAVE THE PROPOSED USES, THAT WAY THERE'S A
6:29:59PM LITTLE MORE CONTROL ON THE SITE PLAN AND WHAT USES THEY ARE
6:30:02PM GETTING PERMITTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
6:30:04PM THE PROPOSED USE PER THE APPLICANT WERE LISTED AS BAR,
6:30:08PM RETAIL AND OFFICE, BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL.
6:30:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
6:30:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOING BACK ACROSS 20th STREET TO THE
6:30:22PM MULTIFAMILY, THE BUSINESSES UNDERNEATH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT
6:30:28PM TIME THEY STAY OPEN TILL?
6:30:29PM >> I DO NOT, AND THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE REVIEW JUST
6:30:32PM BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL USE IS NOT A PART OF THE DISTANCE
6:30:35PM SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FOR THE SPECIAL USE.
6:30:36PM THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
6:30:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
6:30:40PM I AM JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT BUSINESSES ARE UNDER
6:30:42PM THERE, WHAT TIME THEY STAY OPEN TO, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO
6:30:45PM BE AFFECTED BY THIS APPLICATION.
6:30:46PM >> I UNDERSTAND.
6:30:48PM AND THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO AS FAR AS
6:30:50PM COUNCIL RECEIVED FROM THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE PROPERTY
6:30:53PM MANAGER, I DID ADVISE HIM TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE PRESENT AT
6:30:57PM THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO ANSWER THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS.
6:31:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
6:31:01PM THANK YOU, SIR.
6:31:02PM IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM 2?
6:31:23PM >>MARK BENTLEY: 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA 33602 AND I
6:31:34PM HAVE BEEN SWORN.
6:31:34PM I REPRESENT SITE REAL ESTATE, THE OWNER OF THE SUBJECT
6:31:38PM PROPERTY.
6:31:39PM THE TERMS OF COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODES, THE PROJECT IS
6:31:43PM OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTED, AS YOU SAW THE PHOTOS THAT RYAN
6:31:47PM PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, AND IT COMPLIES WITH BARRIO LATINO
6:31:50PM DESIGN STANDARDS.
6:31:51PM SO THE FINAL PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT IS WHAT'S
6:31:55PM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
6:31:56PM THE BARRIO APPROVED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH FOUR PARKING
6:32:01PM SPACES ALTHOUGH SEVEN ARE REQUIRED FOR JUST PURE OFFICE.
6:32:05PM SO JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE POINTS, THERE'S NO DISTANCE
6:32:09PM SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY, AND AS INDICATED,
6:32:14PM THE PROJECT LOCATED TO THE EAST IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, THE
6:32:17PM LAND USE IS MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, AND ALSO THE BOTTOM FLOOR
6:32:23PM IS I THINK A HYBRID OF OFFICE AND RETAIL TO MY UNDERSTANDING
6:32:26PM I.DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC USES.
6:32:28PM THERE'S NO SEPARATION.
6:32:30PM WITH RESPECT TO THE OTHER ESTABLISHMENT, I THINK IN THE
6:32:32PM HISTORY OF ME DOING THIS IN CITY COUNCIL, THERE'S NEVER BEEN
6:32:35PM A DISTANCE WAIVER THAT WASN'T NECESSARY IN YBOR CITY.
6:32:39PM I WOULD POINT OUT TO COUNCIL THAT'S ON 7th AVENUE AND
6:32:42PM THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS 165 FEET AWAY.
6:32:45PM WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PETITION SIGNED BY ALAN HANNA, AND HE HAS
6:32:53PM NO OBJECTION WITH THAT, AND YOU HAVE THE CSX LINE, 7th
6:32:57PM AVENUE.
6:32:57PM SO THAT'S THE SITUATION THERE.
6:32:59PM IN TERMS OF ONLINE SITE PARKING JUST TO GET BACK TO THAT
6:33:02PM BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY JUST ONE WAIVER, OTHER THAN THE
6:33:05PM SEPARATION THAT WE NEED, AND THAT'S THE PARKING.
6:33:09PM THE BARRIO LATINO RECOGNIZED THAT IN ORDER TO FACILITATE
6:33:13PM REDEVELOPMENT OF THESE SMALL LOTS ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF
6:33:16PM 6th AVENUE, THIS PROPERTY FRONTS CSX RAILROAD LINE, IS
6:33:21PM THAT IT'S REALLY NOT REASONABLE OR PRACTICAL TO REQUIRE
6:33:24PM ON-SITE PARKING FOR THESE SMALL LOTS.
6:33:26PM AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A SECOND.
6:33:30PM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LOTS AVAILABLE FOR
6:33:33PM PARKING.
6:33:35PM AND THE EMPHASIS ON THIS PROJECT, THE POTENTIAL OR PROJECTED
6:33:38PM CUSTOMER BASE, THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD
6:33:42PM SOUTH OF 7th AVENUE TYPE USE.
6:33:43PM IT'S GOING TO BE A WINE BAR, AND IT'S A COFFEE BAR AT THE
6:33:48PM SUBJECT LOCATION.
6:33:55PM THE WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS NOISE ISSUE, WE PUT IT ON OUR WET
6:33:59PM ZONING SURVEY.
6:34:01PM IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE SITE PLAN.
6:34:03PM BUT ON THE RECORD WE WOULD LIKE TO SELF-IMPOSE OR SUGGEST A
6:34:07PM CONDITION FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION THAT THERE WILL BE NO
6:34:11PM OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
6:34:13PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR SMALL BISTRO TABLES.
6:34:16PM THERE'S 272 SQUARE FEET.
6:34:18PM IT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
6:34:20PM IT'S ON MR. MITZBERG PROPERTY.
6:34:29PM YOU CAN GO IN.
6:34:31PM IN THE MORNING HAVE BREAKFAST.
6:34:33PM THERE WILL BE TWO OFFICES ABOVE IT.
6:34:35PM THERE WILL BE A WINE BAR.
6:34:36PM YOU CAN DO THAT AND REALLY A TARGET MARKET IS THE
6:34:40PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:34:42PM THAT'S WHY IN TERMS OF PARKING YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THE NEON
6:34:45PM SITE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING.
6:34:48PM I THINK THE WAY OF THE WORLD IN YBOR CITY, SOCIAL NIGHTS,
6:34:53PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, THERE'S A LOT OF RIDE SHARING GOING ON.
6:34:56PM I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE PHOTOS RIGHT NOW.
6:35:02PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU, AND APPROVED BY THE
6:35:08PM BARRIO LATINO. THE OUTSIDE AREA WOULD BE THIS AREA THAT'S
6:35:11PM SHADED RIGHT HERE.
6:35:14PM THAT'S 272 SQUARE FEET.
6:35:19PM HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE BUILDING.
6:35:21PM THIS AREA I AM POINTING TO RIGHT HERE, THAT'S WHERE THE
6:35:24PM THREE OR FOUR BISTRO TABLES WOULD BE LOCATED.
6:35:26PM THERE WOULD BE NO OUTSIDE AMPLIFIED MUSIC AS I SUGGESTED.
6:35:36PM JUST ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE EXTERIOR.
6:35:41PM NOW, HERE IS A GOOD SHOT.
6:35:43PM AND THIS IS RAISED BY RYAN IN HIS STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 3, I
6:35:47PM THINK THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
6:35:48PM I'M LOOKING FROM 7th AVENUE DOWN TOWARD THE SUBJECT
6:35:51PM PROPERTY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKING LOT
6:35:55PM RIGHT HERE.
6:35:56PM AND THEN OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
6:35:57PM SO YOU HAVE THIS MASSIVE PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
6:36:01PM THAT'S AVAILABLE TO CUSTOMERS.
6:36:03PM WHAT I HAVE DONE HERE, I HAVE IDENTIFIED HE HAVE PUBLIC AND
6:36:08PM PRIVATE PARKING LOT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO JUST THE GENERAL
6:36:12PM PUBLIC WITHIN A 500 LINEAL FOOT RADIUS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
6:36:18PM NOW, I THINK A LOT OF YOU CAN APPRECIATE WHEN YOU GO TO THIS
6:36:21PM LEASE ISSUE, MR. MIRANDA, OFF-SITE, CITY CODE SAYS THEY CAN
6:36:26PM CONSIDER ANY PARKING THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN 1,000 FEET.
6:36:30PM HERE AGAIN
6:36:31PM I AM JUST SHOWING YOU 500 LINEAL FEET, WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR
6:36:34PM ANY CUSTOMER FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT.
6:36:36PM SO WE THINK THE WAIVER IS JUSTIFIED.
6:36:39PM WE HAVE A PARKING LOT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE FRONT DOOR, ALL THAT
6:36:43PM PARKING AVAILABLE.
6:36:47PM NOW, BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE URBAN
6:36:51PM VILLAGE, THERE'S NO DISTANCE SEPARATION.
6:36:53PM I THINK I MENTIONED, FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
6:36:56PM THE ONLY SEPARATION REQUIRES OTHER ABs.
6:36:59PM NOW, MR. MITZBERG HAD A REALLY SUCCESSFUL TRACK RECORD.
6:37:07PM THERE'S BEEN SOME MEDIA ARTICLES, AND HE'S ACTUALLY
6:37:10PM DEVELOPED AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN ST. PETE, CONVERTED INTO
6:37:14PM LOFTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT H.BUT HERE IS A PROJECT THAT GOT
6:37:16PM A LOT OF NOTORIETY FROM MR. MITZBERG AND IT'S CALLED CASITAS
6:37:23PM AND PORTAL, AND WHAT HE DID IS HE REHABBED SOME OLD CIGAR
6:37:28PM WORKER HOUSES, ACTUALLY BUILT SOME NEW ONES THAT RESEMBLE
6:37:31PM THEM.
6:37:31PM THEY ARE LOCATED ON FOURTH AVENUE.
6:37:37PM SO HE'S MADE A HUGE COMMITMENT TO YBOR CITY.
6:37:41PM AND THIS IS KIND OF HIS DREAM PROJECT, SO TO SPEAK.
6:37:45PM AND AFTER MR. MITZBERG SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL, I HAVE
6:37:51PM HOPEFULLY THIS AFTERNOON, WE THINK IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT,
6:37:54PM WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT OF THE OLD HISTORIC YBOR
6:37:58PM ASSOCIATION, SIGNED BY THEIR PRESIDENT.
6:38:02PM AND I PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON.
6:38:04PM WE GOT A LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
6:38:06PM WE HAVE A PETITION WITH ABOUT 36 NAMES.
6:38:08PM WE GOT DARRYL SHAW, JOE CAPITANO, ALAN CAHANA, A LOT OF
6:38:15PM STAKEHOLDERS AND THEY EVER LOOKING FOR THIS KIND OF
6:38:17PM DEVELOPMENT OFF 7th AVENUE, SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR
6:38:20PM ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
6:38:21PM SO SOME OF THEM MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
6:38:35PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
6:38:36PM THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING.
6:38:39PM MY NAME IS MICHAEL MITZBERG, 1925 EAST 6TH AVENUE, TAMPA
6:38:44PM 33605, THE BUILDING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
6:38:48PM I AM OBVIOUSLY THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, AND I HAVE HAD A
6:38:51PM REAL ESTATE BUSINESS IN YBOR CITY FOR TEN YEARS.
6:38:54PM I HAVE LIVED IN YBOR CITY IN THE PAST FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
6:38:58PM AND IT WAS ALWAYS MY DREAM TO OWN MY OWN BUILDING IN YBOR
6:39:01PM CITY.
6:39:01PM I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS
6:39:04PM ALL OVER THE BAY AREA, AND I CAN TELL YOU NONE OF THEM HAVE
6:39:09PM AS MUCH HEART IN THEM FOR ME AS THIS ONE DOES, BECAUSE THIS
6:39:12PM IS LIKE HOME TO ME.
6:39:14PM SPEND MORE TIME, MORE WAKING HOURS THAN I DO IN MY OWN HOME.
6:39:19PM YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF YBOR CITY IS TO HAVE MIXED VERTICAL
6:39:24PM MIXED USE WITHIN IT.
6:39:26PM IF YOU GO DOWN 7th AVENUE OR EVEN WITHIN THE
6:39:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN FIRST FLOOR SOME KIND OF
6:39:32PM RETAIL, SOME OFFICE, PEOPLE LIVING ABOVE, AND IT'S JUST A
6:39:36PM MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT
6:39:38PM SPECIAL AND IT ACTUALLY PART OF THE HISTORIC FAB LICK --
6:39:42PM FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THE BARRIO WOULD LIKE TO
6:39:46PM PROTECT.
6:39:47PM I PICKED 6th AVENUE FOR MY BUILDING FOR A FEW REASONS.
6:39:51PM ONE, I COULDN'T AFFORD TO BYPASS A LOT OF 7th AVENUE.
6:39:54PM BUT THE SECOND ONE, IT'S A BE VERY UNIQUE STREET WHERE IT'S
6:39:59PM A DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP STREET BECAUSE IT IS ON THE CSX LINE
6:40:03PM SO RESIDENTIAL GOING THERE IS DIFFICULT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE
6:40:08PM GOT LOUD TRAIN GOING BY SEVERAL TIMES RAY DAY, WHICH THAN
6:40:12PM INTERRUPTS OUR MEETINGS OCCASIONALLY, BUT IT'S PART OF THE
6:40:17PM CHARACTER AND CHARM THAT WE ENJOY.
6:40:20PM I OPERATE MY OWN BUSINESS ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR AND
6:40:23PM I'M PROUD TO SAY IT BECAUSE FRANKLY I NEVER DREAMED OF THIS
6:40:26PM COMING OUT OF THE REAL ESTATE RECESSION.
6:40:28PM WE HAVE OVER 17 FULL TIME JOBS, SO WE HAVE 17 FULL TIME JOBS
6:40:33PM IN THOSE TWO STORIES.
6:40:35PM I NEVER THOUGHT THIS BUILDING WOULD TURN OUT LIKE IT D.I
6:40:38PM KIND OF GOT CARRIED AWAY WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND THE BARRIO
6:40:41PM GIVING THEIR INPUT AND SPENT A LOT MORE ON IT, BUT I'M SUPER
6:40:45PM PROUD OF IT.
6:40:46PM WHEN I WALKED IN TO THAT FIRST FLOOR SPACE FOR THE FIRST
6:40:48PM TIME, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY MY PLAN WAS FOR OFFICE IN THERE,
6:40:52PM I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO
6:40:56PM SHARE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:40:58PM I WANT TO SHARE IT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
6:41:00PM IT'S A BIG OPEN SPACE, AND GOT SOME REAL GOOD STREET
6:41:03PM INTERACTION.
6:41:05PM AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE IDEA CAME FROM.
6:41:07PM AND I BROUGHT MY WIFE IN THERE AND SOME FRIEND, AND, YOU
6:41:10PM KNOW, YBOR IS REALLY A COMMUNITY, AND WE JUST KIND OF WANT
6:41:14PM OUR OPPORTUNITY TO HOST OUR FRIENDS AND BE PROUD OF OUR
6:41:16PM BUILDING AND THE BUSINESS WE ARE PUTTING IN THERE.
6:41:19PM SO TO JUST KIND OF CONCLUDE MY THOUGHTS AND WHAT I WANT TO
6:41:26PM SAY, JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- TO GIVE YOU
6:41:32PM A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE BUSINESS IS, WHICH IS GOING
6:41:35PM TO BE CALLED THE YBOR BEVERAGE COMPANY, WHICH IS REALLY A
6:41:38PM CAFE, COFFEE, WINE BAR, WHERE YOU CAN COME HAVE A CUP OF
6:41:42PM COFFEE WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH FRIEND, WORK WITH DURING THE
6:41:45PM DAY.
6:41:45PM IT'S NOT MEANT TO REALLY COMPETE WITH 7th AVENUE.
6:41:50PM IT MEANT FOR THE LOCALS WHO SOMETIMES WANT SOMETHING A
6:41:52PM LITTLE BIT MORE QUIET THAN 7th AVENUE, WHICH IS WHY WE
6:41:54PM ARE TOTALLY FINE WITH NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
6:41:57PM BUT JUST GOING TO READ THIS DESCRIPTION OF WHO WE ARE,
6:42:00PM BECAUSE FRANKLY MY MANAGER CAN COVER IT BETTER THAN I CAN.
6:42:05PM OUR VISION FOR THE YBOR CITY BEVERAGE COMPANY IS TO PROVIDE
6:42:07PM A POLISHED AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL TAYLOR TO THE
6:42:11PM SOCIAL, PROFESSIONAL NEEDS OF THE YBOR LOCALE, A CELEBRATION
6:42:14PM OF OUR COMMUNITY, STYLE AND FLAVOR, WE AIM TO PROVIDE A
6:42:17PM POPULAR SELECTION OF REGIONAL BEVERAGES AND FOODS TO HELP
6:42:20PM EXPOSE THE RICH HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:42:24PM AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.
6:42:26PM JUST A PLACE FOR COMMUNITY TO COME AND HANG OUT.
6:42:30PM AND HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
6:42:31PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:42:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
6:42:34PM >> WHAT I WILL DO BEFORE WE CONCLUDE THE FESTIVITIES, I WILL
6:42:42PM GIVE THE LETTERS AND MORE PETITIONS SO YOU CAN GET THOSE
6:42:46PM RECEIVED AND FILED.
6:42:47PM AND ALSO JUST SAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UNLESS THEM RIGHT NOW, FOR
6:42:51PM REBUTTAL.
6:42:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
6:42:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE HOURS OF OPERATION --
6:43:00PM >> THE HOURS OF OPERATION?
6:43:02PM [OFF MICROPHONE]
6:43:02PM >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CONSISTENT CITY COUNCIL POLICY BE
6:43:07PM CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
6:43:09PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WHICH WOULD BE 3:00
6:43:20PM IF THAT'S A CONCERN ON COUNCIL --
6:43:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M BRINGING UP A LETTER, THIEF RIGHT TO
6:43:31PM WRITE A LETTER, BUT LEGALLY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE
6:43:36PM ALCOHOL.
6:43:37PM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT STAYING OPEN NO
6:43:43PM LATER THAN 12:00, NO MUSIC CAN BE HEARD.
6:43:49PM I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP.
6:43:50PM >>MARK BENTLEY: I UNDERSTAND.
6:43:56PM WHEN I SAW THAT LETTER, THEY DIDN'T NOTIFY US THERE WAS ANY
6:44:00PM CONCERN, YOU KNOW, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
6:44:02PM BE THAT AS IT MAY, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY CONCERNED WITH
6:44:07PM SALE OF ALCOHOL.
6:44:08PM THEY WANT TO LIMIT THIS MAN'S BUSINESS HOURS.
6:44:10PM AND IF OF WE START GOING DOWN THAT PATH, WHERE ESPECIALLY
6:44:15PM COMPETING IN YBOR CITY, SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES LIVE AND
6:44:19PM DIE ON SPECIAL EVENTS.
6:44:20PM AND TO TURN AROUND AND SAY WE WANT THE GUY ACROSS THE STREET
6:44:23PM TO CLOSE AT 12:00 BECAUSE WE CAME HERE FIRST, NO, WE ARE
6:44:27PM CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN YBOR CITY.
6:44:29PM THE CONDOS CAME IN.
6:44:30PM AND THEY ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE OUT OF CHARACTER.
6:44:35PM WE THINK IF COUNCIL GOES DOWN THAT PATH AND LIMIT THE
6:44:38PM BUSINESS' HOURS OF OPERATION, THE NEXT BUSINESS COMING
6:44:40PM IN, YOU CAN LAY THE GROUNDWORK AND PRECEDENCE HAS BEEN SET,
6:44:44PM YOU MIGHT AS WELL -- NOW OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO
6:44:48PM BE DICTATING.
6:44:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T WANT TO DEBATE.
6:44:52PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
6:44:54PM LET ME SAY. THIS YBOR CITY HISTORICALLY WAS WHAT?
6:44:59PM THE IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME IN.
6:45:01PM THOSE THAT WE WANT TO KEEP OUT NOW ARE THE ONES THAT CAME
6:45:04PM IN.
6:45:06PM THEY GO TO THE ITALIAN CLUB, CENTRO ASTURIANO, CUBAN CLUB.
6:45:12PM ALL THE CLUBS. THEY STARTED DOING THINGS NO ONE EVER HAD.
6:45:12PM THEY HAD AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE, MUTUAL AID SOCIETY.
6:45:15PM THEY HAD ALL OF THAT THEY CREATED THEMSELVES.
6:45:17PM SO YBOR CITY WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE CITY WITHIN A CITY.
6:45:20PM THEN CAME THE DOWNFALL, THE EXPRESSWAY, THINGS MOVING OUT,
6:45:27PM THE OLD WOOD BUILDINGS WERE DILAPIDATED DUE TO LACK OF
6:45:31PM FUNDS, TERMITES, AND GUESS WHAT, PEOPLE MOVED OUT.
6:45:33PM AND LET'S FACE REALITY, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
6:45:36PM THEN IT WAS A RENAISSANCE OF THE ARTISTS.
6:45:39PM EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY TO LIVE THERE, LOW RENT, EVERYTHING ELSE
6:45:42PM WAS FINE.
6:45:42PM ALL OF A SUDDEN, PROGRESS CAME BACK TO YBOR CITY AND IT
6:45:46PM WAS THREE THINGS IN YBOR CITY BEFORE THE GRECO
6:45:50PM ADMINISTRATION MOVED IN.
6:45:51PM TUMBLEWEEDS, PROSTITUTES, AND A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS.
6:45:56PM THAT WAS IT.
6:45:57PM AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR WHAT YBOR CITY HAS COME
6:46:03PM BACK TO BE.
6:46:03PM SO THEN YOU GO BACK TO BE YBOR CITY AND LOOK AT IT.
6:46:06PM AND IF IT WASN'T THAT THERE WAS A MIXED USE, IT WOULDN'T
6:46:12PM SURVIVE.
6:46:13PM WITH ALL THE ENTERTAINMENT AREAS, UNTIL THE MIXED USE CAME
6:46:17PM IN, AND YOU HAVE AN ENORMOUS INVESTMENT, NOT ONLY -- I'M NOT
6:46:20PM TALKING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL, BUT ALL OVER YBOR CITY, THERE
6:46:26PM HAS BEEN HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HOMES BEING BUILT,
6:46:29PM APARTMENTS OR RENOVATION LIKE YOUR CLIENT HAS DONE ALL OVER
6:46:33PM THE AREA.
6:46:34PM AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT HELD IT TOGETHER.
6:46:37PM THEN THE CITY CAME IN AND PUT TWO PARKING GARAGES IN YBOR
6:46:40PM CITY AND MADE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN,
6:46:44PM PARK AND HAVE A NICE TIME, ENJOY THE RENAISSANCE AND THE
6:46:47PM RESTAURANTS AND THE BARS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHICH IS FINE.
6:46:49PM AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A LECTURER.
6:46:52PM I'M NOT.
6:46:53PM BUT I LIVED THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND EVEN THOUGH I LIVE
6:46:56PM IN WEST TAMPA I THINK I'M STILL IN YBOR CITY.
6:46:59PM SO WHEN I LOOK AT THAT AND I SIT BACK, AND LET'S FACE IT --
6:47:05PM AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS SUBJECT MATTER OR THIS ZONING
6:47:08PM MATTER.
6:47:11PM IT USED TO BE -- YOU HAD TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING
6:47:14PM OR THEY WOULDN'T EVEN LOOK AT IT.
6:47:15PM THEN CAME THE IDEA OF, WELL, THERE'S A PARKING LOT OVER
6:47:18PM THERE.
6:47:21PM NEXT TO THE PARKING, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING.
6:47:24PM I AGREE WITH THAT.
6:47:27PM IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE AT WHAT HOUR OF THE
6:47:29PM DAY.
6:47:30PM AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME, THAT PART.
6:47:31PM BECAUSE IF THAT PARKING LOT IS FULL, THEN THIS BUSINESS IS
6:47:34PM GOING TO GO DOWN.
6:47:36PM HIS INVESTMENT IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
6:47:37PM AND I'M THE GUY WHO PUT HIM DOWN, AND I DON'T WANTED TO DO
6:47:42PM THAT EITHER.
6:47:42PM SO AT LEAST THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS MAKING AN INVESTMENT THERE
6:47:49PM AND THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE IT APPLICABLE.
6:47:52PM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
6:47:53PM >>MARK BENTLEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE EXPLANATION.
6:47:56PM IT SEEMS HOURS OF OPERATION IS A CONCERN TO CITY COUNCIL --
6:48:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
6:48:03PM I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
6:48:05PM AND LET ME CLARIFY THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
6:48:07PM THERE ARE MANY AREAS IN THIS CITY THAT STRICTLY HAVE COME TO
6:48:10PM A DIFFERENT HOUR OF OPERATION BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE AT.
6:48:13PM SO I DIDN'T CREATE THAT.
6:48:14PM THEY ASKED FOR IT.
6:48:15PM >>MARK BENTLEY: WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND THEN I WILL
6:48:20PM WRAP UP MY PRESENTATION, IF THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE A
6:48:23PM CONCERN TO THIS COUNCIL, WE HAVE ALREADY MADE THE
6:48:27PM ACCOMMODATION WE BELIEVE IN TERMS OF THE PROHIBITION OF
6:48:30PM AMPLIFIED MUSIC ON THE EXTERIOR WHICH IS SET FORTH IN THE
6:48:33PM CONDO ASSOCIATION'S LETTER.
6:48:35PM HOWEVER, IF THE HOURS ARE A CONCERN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE
6:48:39PM WILL CONSIDER, YOU KNOW.
6:48:41PM SO WE GAVE SOME THOUGHT TO THAT REALISTICALLY.
6:48:45PM WE KNOW WHICH WAY THIS COULD GO IN TERMS OF THE HOURS.
6:48:51PM I'M PRETTY MUCH DONE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:48:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
6:48:57PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BENTLEY, FOR A THOROUGH
6:48:59PM PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS.
6:49:01PM YEAH, I MEAN, YOU SORT OF SAID WHAT I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD
6:49:08PM SAY.
6:49:10PM AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS -- I'M NOT TESTIFYING, MR. SHELBY,
6:49:14PM BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE LITTLE WINE BAR RIGHT A BLOCK
6:49:20PM AND A HALF FROM MY HOUSE ON MacDILL, AND THEY CAME IN
6:49:24PM FOR REZONING, AND THERE WERE HOURS OF OPERATION RAISED BY
6:49:30PM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, AND ULTIMATELY A COMPROMISE WAS
6:49:33PM STRUCK BECAUSE OF AS MR. MITZBERG SAID, AND HE'S A GOOD MAN
6:49:38PM AS YOU INDICATED, BUT AS HE SAID, THIS SOUND LIKE MORE OF A
6:49:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING OPERATION.
6:49:44PM THAT'S HIS HOPE, I THINK.
6:49:46PM IT'S NOT FOR THE TOURIST CROWD AND THAT SORT OF THING.
6:49:51PM HE'S LOOKING TO SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, MAYBE
6:49:54PM WORKERS, THAT SORT OF THING, THAT MIGHT COME BY.
6:49:59PM AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS
6:50:01PM LACKING IN YBOR.
6:50:05PM BUT THEN AGAIN, LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU HAVE RESIDENCES, I
6:50:10PM BELIEVE, ACROSS THE STREET ON 20th AND THEN DOWN AROUND
6:50:14PM THE CORNER ON 5th, AND THEY PROBABLY, FOR BETTER OR
6:50:19PM WORSE, THEY MOVED THERE, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING ON
6:50:22PM 7th AVENUE.
6:50:23PM BUT I THINK THE REASON I ASKED FOR THIS TO GO UP, AS FAR AS
6:50:31PM WE CAN SEE THERE'S NO OTHER PRECEDENT IN THE 4th,
6:50:35PM 5th AND 6th AVENUE AREAS IN TERMS OF LIQUOR.
6:50:43PM AND THIS COULD START ESTABLISHING A LITTLE BIT OF PRECEDENT
6:50:47PM FOR BARS AND LIQUORS TO THE SOUTH.
6:50:50PM AND THEN I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO GET INTO A WHOLE
6:50:53PM DIFFERENT BALLGAME.
6:50:55PM THEN YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AS YOU GO INTO 5th.
6:50:58PM SEW SO ANYWAY, I DIDN'T RAISE IT.
6:51:01PM THE NEIGHBORS RAISED IT.
6:51:04PM MR. GRANDA ALLUDED TO IT.
6:51:09PM YOU GUYS MIGHT BE OPEN FOR IT.
6:51:11PM I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC TO SEE IF
6:51:14PM THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU.
6:51:18PM >>MARK BENTLEY: OKAY.
6:51:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
6:51:22PM THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.
6:51:25PM I'M LOOKING DOWN THE LIST OF PLACES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY,
6:51:32PM RESIDENCES ACROSS THE STREET AND ALL THE OTHER BARS AND
6:51:34PM RESTAURANTS AROUND IT.
6:51:35PM SHOULD THERE BE ANY CONCERN BY THIS COUNCIL THAT PHILIP
6:51:38PM SHORE ELEMENTARY IS ONLY 426 FEET AWAY?
6:51:43PM >> RYAN MANASSE, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:51:46PM FOR THE SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS, THE SEPARATION DON'T A
6:51:50PM LITTLE WOULD BE THE CLOSEST ALCOHOL SALES ESTABLISHMENT.
6:51:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO NO?
6:52:01PM I WAS JUST CONCERNED OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE SCHOOL.
6:52:05PM COUNSEL.
6:52:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, TONIGHT WE HEARD SEVERAL
6:52:09PM DISCUSSIONS, SMALL VENUE, AND THE SEPARATIONS IN YOUR CODE.
6:52:14PM THERE IS NO DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
6:52:19PM IS THAT CORRECT?
6:52:20PM >> FOR THIS CASE SPECIFICALLY, URBAN VILLAGE, FOR THE USE
6:52:24PM REQUESTED, THE SEPARATION IS 250 FEET FROM ON THE AB SALES
6:52:29PM ESTABLISHMENTS.
6:52:29PM DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY MAY REQUIRE DIFFERENT DISTANCE
6:52:33PM SEPARATION REQUIREMENT, WHETHER THEY BE RESIDENTIAL OR
6:52:35PM INSTITUTIONAL.
6:52:35PM BURR FOR THIS PETITION IT DOES NOT.
6:52:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL HAS A CONCERN ABOUT
6:52:42PM THAT, RAISED THE ISSUE OF DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM THE
6:52:46PM SCHOOL.
6:52:46PM YOU UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE CODE IS PRESENTLY CONSTRUCTED
6:52:49PM THAT IS NOT A CRITERIA TO WAIVE.
6:52:55PM OUTSIDE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
6:52:57PM AT THIS TIME TO REVISIT THE DISTANCE SEPARATIONS FOR SMALL
6:53:02PM VENUE.
6:53:03PM BUT FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSES I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOUR
6:53:06PM ATTENTION TO THE GENERAL STANDARDS ON PAGES 3 AND 4 OF
6:53:13PM YOUR -- [OFF MICROPHONE] BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CRITERIA ON
6:53:18PM WHICH YOU BASE YOUR DECISION BASED UPON THE COMPETENT
6:53:20PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE IN THE RECORD, AND WHAT
6:53:24PM YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW SEEMS TO BE DISCUSSED RELATIVE TO
6:53:34PM 27-129, SUB-B, NUMBER 7, CONTROL OF POTENTIALLY ADVERSE
6:53:39PM EFFECT GENERALLY, AND TOWARDS THAT END, MR. BENTLEY, THE
6:53:44PM PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE, HAS INDICATED TO ADDRESS THE
6:53:46PM POTENTIAL ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED
6:53:50PM FROM THE REVIEW OF THE MAP, AND THE LETTERS FROM THE CONDO
6:53:55PM ASSOCIATION THAT HE HAS OFFERED TO ADD THE NO AMPLIFIED, NO
6:54:01PM OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC TO THE SITE PLAN.
6:54:03PM AGAIN, THAT IS FOR YOU TO DISCUSS BASED UPON THE COMPETENT
6:54:09PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT YOU SEE IN THIS HEARING TONIGHT.
6:54:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.
6:54:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT CONCERN ABOUT
6:54:20PM SCHOOLS AS WELL, ALLOWING SMALL VENUES TO BE IN THAT AREA
6:54:25PM WITH A SCHOOL, IS MY QUESTION.
6:54:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PRECEDENT EXISTS BY THE POLICY
6:54:31PM DECISION THAT IS MADE WHEN IT IS ADOPTED.
6:54:37PM IT IS UP TO COUNCIL TO REVISIT IT.
6:54:41PM OVER OFF YOUR DECISION NOW IS BASED UPON WHETHER THE
6:54:44PM PETITIONER HAS --
6:54:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
6:54:53PM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
6:54:58PM I'M ACTUALLY NOT PARTICIPATING BECAUSE MY CONDO ASSOCIATION
6:55:00PM IS ACTUALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
6:55:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
6:55:06PM MR. SHELBY.
6:55:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STANDING IN FOR MRS. KERT UNDER THE
6:55:13PM CIRCUMSTANCES.
6:55:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE LEARNED THE DISTANCE NORTH TO ANOTHER
6:55:17PM ESTABLISHMENT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DISTANCE TO ANY OTHER
6:55:21PM ESTABLISHMENTS SOUTH OF 6th AVENUE?
6:55:24PM IS THAT A RELEVANT OR FAIR QUESTION?
6:55:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF CAN ADDRESS THAT.
6:55:29PM >>RYAN MANASSE: SO THE APPLICATION AND THE SITE PLAN AND
6:55:33PM THE SURVEYS SUBMITTED IN THE REPORT WOULD BE CLOSEST.
6:55:36PM THAT'S WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.
6:55:38PM THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE ONLY ONE.
6:55:39PM THAT IS THE CLOSEST.
6:55:40PM AND THAT'S THE WAIVER THAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
6:55:43PM WE TYPICALLY PRESENT TO YOU THE WAIVER THAT HAS THE SHORTEST
6:55:46PM DISTANCE, AND THEN THAT ENCOMPASSES THAT THERE ARE OTHER AB
6:55:51PM SALES ESTABLISHMENTS IN THAT PERIMETER.
6:55:52PM BUT WE HAVE TO LOCATE THE SHORTEST DISTANCE BECAUSE THAT'S
6:55:56PM WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO THAT WAIVER.
6:55:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO TELL ME IF IT'S A RELEVANT QUESTION.
6:56:01PM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
6:56:03PM ARE THERE ANY NEARBY THAT ARE REQUIRED TO CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT?
6:56:08PM IS THAT A RELEVANT QUESTION?
6:56:10PM >>RYAN MANASSE: IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY.
6:56:11PM DEPENDING ON THE ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS OF YBOR COUNCIL OR
6:56:16PM WHETHER THEY ARE GONE THROUGH A SPECIAL USE 1, THE HOURS
6:56:18PM COULD BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14, OR IF THEY GOT CERTAIN
6:56:24PM LIMITATIONS ON HOURS, ON THE SITE PLAN.
6:56:27PM WHATEVER IS ON THE SITE PLAN THAT'S AGREED UPON WOULD BE
6:56:29PM WHAT THE ESTABLISHMENT WILL BE HELD TO.
6:56:31PM JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ON THE CHAPTER 14, THE
6:56:35PM HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 7 A.M. TO 3 A.M. MONDAY THROUGH
6:56:38PM SATURDAY AND YOU CAN'T SERVE BEFORE 11 A.M. ON SUNDAY TILL
6:56:42PM 3 A.M.
6:56:43PM THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
6:56:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD FOLLOW UP VERY BRIEFLY FOR THE
6:56:47PM COUNCIL'S INFORMATION.
6:56:49PM A REMAINDER THAT WHATEVER IS ON THE SITE PLAN RUNS WITH THE
6:56:52PM LAND; IT IS IRRELEVANT AS TO BE WHO THE PETITIONER IS, WHAT
6:56:57PM THE SITE PLAN ULTIMATELY IS DECIDED WHAT IS CONTROLLING.
6:57:02PM >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT
6:57:08PM COORDINATION.
6:57:09PM IT RUNS WITH THE SPECIAL SITE PLAN THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE.
6:57:12PM SO IF THERE IS ANY MITIGATION FROM THE SITE PLAN THEN THEY
6:57:18PM COULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE SITE PLAN PER COUNCIL'S
6:57:21PM GUIDANCE AND APPROVAL.
6:57:22PM IT RUNS WITH THE LAND BUT IT REALLY RUNS WITH THE SPECIAL
6:57:25PM USE THAT'S APPROVED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
6:57:28PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT'S MR. SHELBY'S POINT.
6:57:30PM I DON'T THINK -- IF IT'S SOLD OR AT LEAST TO SOMEBODY ELSE
6:57:34PM THAT ALL THESE CONDITIONS CONTINUE ON, GOOD OR BAD OR
6:57:39PM WHATEVER, CONDITIONS, THEY ALL CONTINUE.
6:57:41PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT IS CORRECT.
6:57:42PM NOW TYPICALLY IF, LET'S SAY, THAT SOMEBODY ELSE MOVED IN AND
6:57:46PM THEY INCREASED IT OR INCREASED THE INTENSITY, THEY WOULD
6:57:49PM MOST LIKELY BE BEFORE YOU AGAIN TO DO A WHOLE NEW ALCOHOL
6:57:53PM PETITION.
6:57:53PM ANYBODY THAT MOVES INTO THAT ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE LIMITED
6:57:55PM TO THE PROPOSED USES AS WELL AS PROPOSED SPECIAL USE AND THE
6:57:58PM STIPULATES TO US UNDERSTOOD THE SITE PLAN.
6:58:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF THE GENTLEMAN HERE SELLS HIS BUSINESS,
6:58:08PM COFFEE, WINE BAR, TO A FULL-BLOWN DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT AND
6:58:13PM COULD STAY THAT WAY.
6:58:14PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT'S CORRECT.
6:58:16PM SO STAYING WITH THE PROPERTY WOULD BE THE SMALL VENUE, BEER,
6:58:19PM WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND THE PACKAGE
6:58:21PM SALES CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
6:58:25PM THAT'S AB CLASSIFICATION AS WELL AS SPECIAL USE THAT WOULD
6:58:27PM STAY WITH THE PROPERTY.
6:58:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.
6:58:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL?
6:58:32PM OKAY.
6:58:32PM PETITIONER, WERE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
6:58:36PM >>MARK BENTLEY: I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE
6:58:38PM PUBLIC.
6:58:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
6:58:39PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE OUT OF TIME.
6:58:41PM >>MARK BENTLEY: JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
6:58:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN, DID THEY HAVE ANY MORE TIME LEFT?
6:58:50PM GO AHEAD.
6:58:50PM >>MARK BENTLEY: WE HAVE A PETITION WITH 33 OWNERS AND
6:58:54PM RESIDENT.
6:58:55PM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS LIVES IN THE CONDO, HIS NAME IS RYAN
6:58:58PM MCGINNES.
6:58:59PM WE HAVE A BUSINESS OWNER, CURTIS GAINES HALL.
6:59:02PM PROPERTY NEXT DOOR THE RESIDENTIAL HOME TO THE WEST DAVID
6:59:05PM STEINER, JOE CAPITANO, ALAN KAHANA, YBOR PROPERTIES ON
6:59:11PM 5th WITH DARRYL SHAW. CIVIC ASSOCIATION, I SENT YOU A
6:59:15PM COPY OF THE LETTER THIS AFTERNOON.
6:59:17PM SO WE HAVE THOSE RECEIVED AND FILED.
6:59:19PM AND THEN IF YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THE HOURS OF OPERATION,
6:59:27PM OR IF YOU WOULD RATHER HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST, BUT I AM
6:59:30PM PREPARED TO DO THAT AS WELL.
6:59:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S YOUR TIME.
6:59:35PM >>MARK BENTLEY: WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST IS CEASE SELLING
6:59:39PM ALCOHOL AT MIDNIGHT, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, NOT TO SHUT
6:59:44PM THE BUSINESS DOWN BUT STOP SELLING ALCOHOL, OKAY?
6:59:47PM SO IF YOU WANT TO SELL COFFEE AFTER MIDNIGHT OR WHATEVER,
6:59:49PM THAT'S HIS PREROGATIVE.
6:59:51PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, HE WOULD CEASE SELLING ALCOHOL AT 1:00.
6:59:56PM AND THEN THE MAJOR EVENTS IN YBOR, GUAVAWEEN, NIGHT PARADE,
7:00:02PM NEW YEAR'S EVE, ST. PADDY'S DAY, FESTIVE ITALIANO, HE COULD
7:00:08PM BE OPEN PER CHAPTER 14 TO TAKE ADVANTAGE LIKE MOST BUSINESS
7:00:12PM OWNERS IN YBOR DO TO SIGNIFICANT EVENTS.
7:00:14PM THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL.
7:00:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, BEFORE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO
7:00:20PM YOU WISH TO --
7:00:27PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THIS IS CHAPTER 14 HOURS OF OPERATION THAT
7:00:30PM IS CONSISTENT WITH THEM.
7:00:34PM AT 12 A.M. AND THEN THE ESTABLISHMENT REMAINED -- HOURS OF
7:00:38PM OPERATION WOULD BE -- WELL, 7 A.M. TO 3 A.M., AND THEN
7:00:43PM 11 A.M. ON SUNDAYS AND 3 A.M.
7:00:46PM >> YOU ARE SHOWING US WHAT CHAPTER 14 IS.
7:00:48PM >> CORRECT.
7:00:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE OFFERING A RESTRICTION ON THAT
7:00:50PM THAT WOULD BE EXPRESSLY STATED IN THE PD OR IN THE SPECIAL
7:00:53PM USE.
7:00:54PM AND WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH A PD.
7:01:00PM NOT WITH THESE.
7:01:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, YOU CONTROL THE HOURS
7:01:04PM OF OPERATION, BUT TO ENFORCE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE
7:01:09PM POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ANY OTHER AGENCY TO BE ABLE TO KNOW
7:01:11PM EXACTLY WHAT TIME THE ALCOHOL SALES IS SUPPOSED TO CEASE.
7:01:17PM SO CONSISTENTLY, IT'S BEEN MY OBSERVATIONS, AS WELL AS MY
7:01:23PM UNDERSTANDING, THAT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THE
7:01:27PM PROPER ENFORCEMENT OF THE SITE PLAN IS TO HAVE TAMPA SITE
7:01:30PM PLAN HOURS CONSISTENT WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AND ALLOW
7:01:34PM FOR THE ALCOHOL SALES DURING THAT POINT, BECAUSE IT WOULD
7:01:38PM NOT BE ENFORCEABLE TO HAVE -- ON THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T
7:01:44PM THINK THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
7:01:46PM >>MARK BENTLEY: IT'S ON THE PLACARD IN THE WINDOW TO T
7:01:50PM HOURS TO SELL ALCOHOL.
7:01:52PM THAT'S PER YOUR ORDER ANSWER.
7:01:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IF WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, I CAN
7:01:57PM TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
7:01:59PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY COMMENT, MR. BENTLEY, IS I THINK
7:02:01PM THAT'S A VERY, VERY REASONABLE OFFER OF COMPROMISE, MR.
7:02:05PM MITZBERG, MR. BENTLEY.
7:02:06PM I THINK IT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS'
7:02:09PM CONCERNS, YOU KNOW.
7:02:12PM WEEKDAYS, TO BE REASONABLE AT MIDNIGHT.
7:02:14PM WEEKENDS.
7:02:16PM WHAT DID YOU SAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY --
7:02:21PM >>MARK BENTLEY: ONE.
7:02:24PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE.
7:02:25PM I THINK IT EXTREMELY REASONABLE AND FAIR AND STILL OPERATE A
7:02:27PM GOOD SOLID BUSINESS PLAN.
7:02:30PM AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
7:02:33PM AND I HOPE THAT LEGAL DOES NOT GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD
7:02:38PM COMPROMISE.
7:02:38PM THANK YOU.
7:02:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
7:02:41PM NOW WE PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU ARE HERE TO COMMENT
7:02:44PM ON ITEM NUMBER 2, PLEASE STAND UP AND MOVE FORWARD, AND YOU
7:02:48PM WILL GET THREE MINUTES TO COMMENT.
7:02:50PM >> MY NAME IS ROGER KESSLER, PROPERTY SERVICES, AND I'M THE
7:02:56PM COMMUNITY MANAGER FOR 5th AVENUE VILLAS, CONDOMINIUM
7:03:00PM ASSOCIATION.
7:03:02PM THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL MIXED COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY RIGHT TO
7:03:05PM THE EAST OR RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE APPLICANT'S
7:03:09PM ESTABLISHMENT.
7:03:10PM THE ASSOCIATION DOESN'T HAVE -- THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
7:03:14PM AGAINST THE WET ZONED PERMIT ITSELF.
7:03:16PM THEY DO FEEL, THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS, THEY ARE WORRIED
7:03:20PM ABOUT HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT THE PEACEFUL LIVING OF THE
7:03:23PM RESIDENT THAT LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
7:03:26PM I'M THE ONE WHO SENT THAT LETTER TO EVERYBODY.
7:03:28PM THANK YOU FOR SHOWING IT AND SAYING THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED
7:03:31PM THAT.
7:03:31PM BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY, THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT IF ANY
7:03:34PM RESTRICTIONS WERE APPROVED THAT THEY WOULD BECOME A PART OF
7:03:38PM THE LAND USE RESTRICTION OR RUN WITH THE LAND, IF THEY WERE
7:03:41PM APPROVED OR AGREED UPON.
7:03:43PM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT IF THERE'S
7:03:45PM A NEW OWNER IN THE FUTURE OR TENANT THAT THEY WOULD EITHER
7:03:49PM CHANGE THE TYPE OF BUSINESS OR MIGHT BE A LOT OF NOISE,
7:03:54PM STUFF LIKE THAT.
7:03:57PM ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE
7:03:59PM THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
7:04:01PM WHEN THE DEVELOPER CREATED THE COMMUNITY FOR 5th AVENUE
7:04:04PM VILLAS, AGAIN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, HE HAD IN MIND TO BE
7:04:07PM ABLE TO KEEP A PEACEFUL WAY OF LIVING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
7:04:10PM SO IN THE RULES, WHEN HE INITIALLY CREATED THE COMMUNITY, HE
7:04:14PM CREATED IT SO THAT ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE WOULD
7:04:16PM BE OPEN FROM 7 A.M. TILL 9 P.M. AT NIGHT AND THEY WOULD HAVE
7:04:21PM TO CLOSE.
7:04:22PM THEY COULDN'T CLOSE ANY EARLIER THAN THAT.
7:04:24PM HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
7:04:25PM HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WENT AHEAD AND LET THEM STAY OPEN
7:04:28PM LATE, MAYBE HAVE A BAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THERE.
7:04:32PM BUT SO WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS THAT THE HOURS OF
7:04:36PM OPERATION FOR THE APPLICANT WOULD BE TO BE CLOSED BY 12 AT
7:04:42PM MIDNIGHT.
7:04:42PM AND IT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF THE OVERFLOW, WHERE
7:04:45PM ARE ALL THE PEOPLE GOING TO GO AFTER THAT?
7:04:47PM WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS GOINGS TO BE A NIGHTCLUB OR A BAR
7:04:50PM OR WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO
7:04:52PM BE A BAR.
7:04:53PM AND THEY WERE JUST AFRAID THAT THE OVERFLOW FROM THOSE
7:04:55PM PEOPLE MATE SPREAD INTO THE COMMUNITY AND JUST HAVE A LOT OF
7:04:58PM NOISE AND MESS WITH THE PEACEFUL LIVING OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
7:05:02PM COMMUNITY.
7:05:03PM THE SECOND CONCERN IS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
7:05:08PM I'M SORRY, THAT WAS THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
7:05:09PM THE SECOND CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE MUSIC AND THE SOUND.
7:05:15PM THE ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING THAT THERE IS NO SOUND TO BE
7:05:18PM HEARD ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BAR.
7:05:22PM AGAIN, THEY ARE CONCERNED PRIMARILY ABOUT THE PEACEFUL
7:05:26PM LIVING OF PEOPLE LIVING RIGHT THERE AND MUSIC BLASTING AND
7:05:29PM STUFF LIKE THAT.
7:05:30PM AND THE TIME CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE PARKING.
7:05:33PM WE SAW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ONLY HAVE FOUR PARKING PLACES
7:05:38PM THERE, AND THAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT, FROM WHAT THE
7:05:42PM ASSOCIATION UNDERSTANDS, THAT THERE SHOULD BE LIKE 12
7:05:44PM PARKING SPACES.
7:05:45PM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND THEY HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME
7:05:48PM THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY INSIDE OUR ASSOCIATION, THAT IF
7:05:51PM THERE'S ONLY FOUR --
7:05:53PM >> (BELL SOUNDS.)
7:05:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS.
7:05:54PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
7:05:55PM IF THERE'S ONLY FOUR PARKING SPACES BEING USED THAT PARKING
7:05:58PM SPACES AROUND THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE USED UP, AND THEIR
7:06:03PM CUSTOMERS THEMSELVES IN OUR PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
7:06:06PM PARK ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW.
7:06:08PM AND SO THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT IF MAYBE A SIGN BE ERECTED
7:06:11PM DESIGNATING WHERE THE OVERFLOW PARKING COULD BE OR SOMETHING
7:06:14PM LIKE THAT.
7:06:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
7:06:16PM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 2?
7:06:19PM IF SO COME FORWARD.
7:06:21PM OKAY.
7:06:22PM REBUTTAL, SIR.
7:06:23PM >>MARK BENTLEY: JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS IN THE RECORD,
7:06:27PM IN TERMS OF PARKING, THERE'S SUFFICIENT PARKING ON MULTIPLE
7:06:31PM LOTS AROUND HERE.
7:06:32PM ALSO, THERE'S LETTERS IN SUPPORT FROM THESE FRO TWO
7:06:35PM RESIDENCES TO THE WEST.
7:06:37PM MR. MITZBERG OWNS THIS PROPERTY.
7:06:41PM THAT WOULD BE IN THE RECORD, TOO.
7:06:43PM IN TERMS OF SEPARATION, TO QUALIFY FOR THAT, THE DIRTY SHAME
7:06:47PM IS ON 7th AVENUE UP HERE, WHICH YOU HAVE THESE MAN DADE
7:06:54PM PHYSICAL BARRIERS, THE CSX LINE FROM THE DIRTY SHAME.
7:06:59PM ALSO THEY SIGNED A PETITION IN SUPPORT.
7:07:02PM IN TERMS OF NOISE, YOU HAVE GOT REGULATIONS THAT DEAL WITH
7:07:06PM NOISE.
7:07:06PM SO IF ANYONE OPERATES HERE WHETHER IT'S MR. MITZBERG OR SOME
7:07:10PM FUTURE OWNER, THEY HAVE GOT TO DEPLOY WITH W THE NOISE
7:07:14PM ORDINANCE.
7:07:14PM OTHERWISE, SUBJECT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, OR IT'S CONSIDERED
7:07:19PM MISDEMEANOR IN COUNTY COURT.
7:07:23PM WE SHOULDN'T SIZE UP THE OPERATOR.
7:07:25PM I TALKED ABOUT HE WORKS IN YBOR CITY BUT I DON'T THINK WE
7:07:29PM SHOULD BE SIZING IT UP.
7:07:30PM IF AN OPERATOR COMPLIES WITH ALL THE NOTES AND CONDITIONS AS
7:07:33PM SET FORTH ON THE SITE PLAN ALONG WITH THE GENERAL CITY CODES
7:07:36PM THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM F.THERE IS, THEN THERE'S THE
7:07:38PM RISK OF THAT BUSINESS OWNER.
7:07:40PM AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE CONCERN OF THE DEVELOPER, THE
7:07:46PM CONDOS, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THE DEVELOPER'S FAMILY
7:07:51PM OWNS THE STRIP CLUB ON ADAMO IN YBOR CITY.
7:07:54PM SO IF ANYTHING, IT WOULD CAUSE SOME INCOMPATIBILITY, OR
7:07:59PM AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES, IT WOULD BE THAT USE THERE ON ADAMO.
7:08:04PM SO IN ANY EVENT, I WASN'T GOING TO BRING THAT UP, BUT I
7:08:08PM THOUGHT IT IMPORTANT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME.
7:08:10PM BUT WE REITERATE THAT WE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO HOURS OF
7:08:15PM OPERATION IN TERMS OF SELLING ALCOHOL MONDAY THROUGH
7:08:20PM THURSDAY AND CEASE AT 12:00.
7:08:22PM MR. DINGFELDER'S IS RIGHT.
7:08:24PM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DEVIATE FROM CHAPTER 14 WHEN YOU IMPOSE
7:08:27PM NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN.
7:08:28PM YOUR CITY ORDINANCE ALSO HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT SO THE
7:08:31PM POLICE KNOW HOW TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE, THAT THERE'S A
7:08:34PM PLACARD PLACED ON ANY PLACE THAT HAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT,
7:08:37PM THAT SAYS THE HOURS, PERMITTED HOURS TO SELL ALCOHOL, NOT TO
7:08:41PM STAY OPEN, OKAY.
7:08:42PM SO WE AGREED TO MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, STOP SELLING
7:08:45PM ALCOHOL AT 12:00.
7:08:47PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, CEASE AT 1:00.
7:08:50PM AND THEN SUNDAY, YOU KNOW, 11 OR 12.
7:08:53PM IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.
7:08:54PM WE WOULD PROBABLY STICK TO 12 EVEN THOUGH IT'S PROBABLY
7:08:56PM IRRELEVANT.
7:08:57PM AND THAT QUO BE TO STOP THE SELL OF ALCOHOL.
7:09:00PM AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXTERIOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC, THERE WOULD
7:09:04PM BE A PROHIBITION ON THAT PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN, ALSO
7:09:07PM PLACED ON THE PLACARD WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
7:09:10PM SO THAT ABOUT SUMS IT UP.
7:09:12PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
7:09:13PM APPRECIATE IT.
7:09:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
7:09:21PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
7:09:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION,
7:09:26PM MR. BENTLEY.
7:09:27PM IT'S PROBABLY RHETORICAL, BUT THE LETTERS ON THE SITE PLAN,
7:09:32PM YOU ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT THE HOLIDAY, ON THE SITE PLAN.
7:09:37PM >>MARK BENTLEY: I THINK A SHOPPING LIST OF SIGNIFICANT
7:09:44PM EVENTS AND I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED ONE.
7:09:47PM EITHER THAT OR WE SAY LIKE WE DID WITH TAMPA CATHOLIC AND
7:09:51PM THE FOOTBALL, NO MORE THAN TEN NIGHT EVENTS.
7:09:56PM LET'S GO WITH THE ONES THAT I BROUGHT UP.
7:10:00PM AND MAYBE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK, IF I OVERLOOKED ONE,
7:10:04PM UNLESS YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I MISSED ONE.
7:10:07PM BUT IT WOULD BE GUAVAWEEN, THE KNIGHT PARADE, ST. PADDY'S
7:10:13PM DAY, FESTIVE ITALIANO, AND NEW YEARS.
7:10:18PM AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
7:10:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] SO THE MARSHAL CAN COME
7:10:29PM BY AND SEE IT.
7:10:30PM >>RYAN MANASSE: SO THE AB PLACARD, IN THIS CASE WE DON'T
7:10:36PM REALLY HAVE AN OCCUPANCY BECAUSE IN YBOR CITY IT GOES TO
7:10:40PM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
7:10:41PM THE FIRE MARSHAL, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH PERMITTING TO
7:10:43PM ESTABLISH THESE NEW USES, ESPECIALLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR
7:10:46PM BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE DOING THIS, THEY ARE GOING TO
7:10:48PM COME UP WITH THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS FIRE MARSHAL.
7:11:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MANY OTHER ALCOHOLIC ZONING -- [OFF
7:11:12PM MICROPHONE]
7:11:13PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT'S
7:11:23PM SURVEYOR.
7:11:24PM THIS IS WHERE WE GET THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.
7:11:26PM AND THE RADIUS MAP SHOWS THE USES AND THEY TYPICALLY LIST
7:11:30PM THE USES HERE.
7:11:33PM THEY DID WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
7:11:35PM YOU CAN SEE THE DISTANCES FOR THE CORRESPONDING ADDRESSES.
7:11:38PM 6th AVE., IT APPEARED THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
7:11:42PM I'M SORRY, 7th AVE. WAS ALL THE ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS.
7:11:46PM SO ALL THE OTHER ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS ON 7th AVE. WERE
7:11:50PM WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET THAT THEY LISTED.
7:11:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
7:11:55PM MR. SHELBY?
7:11:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT
7:11:59PM APPEARS THAT COUNCIL HAS CERTAIN DESIRE, THE PETITIONER
7:12:08PM APPEARS REALLY TO WORK WITH COUNCIL TO ADDRESS-TO ITS
7:12:18PM SATISFACTION.
7:12:19PM THAT BEING SAID, IT IS MY REQUEST TO ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL
7:12:23PM ALLOW TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT REGULAR DAY MEETING TO ALLOW
7:12:29PM ME TO, NUMBER ONE, BE ABLE TO BE CERTAIN THAT COUNCIL HAS
7:12:36PM THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES MY
7:12:39PM UNDERSTANDING THAT, A, NUMBER ONE, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HAS
7:12:42PM NOT BEEN DONE AND HAS BEEN REJECT CONSISTENTLY, AND NUMBER
7:12:47PM TWO, THAT THE CODE ITSELF MAY ACTUALLY PRECLUDE THAT.
7:12:53PM AND THE CODE THAT SAYS THAT BUSINESS SHALL CEASE WHEN
7:12:59PM ALCOHOL SALES STOP.
7:13:00PM I DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT FLYING BY THE SEAT.
7:13:05PM SO I HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. BENTLEY BRIEFLY ON A SIDE BAR.
7:13:08PM I BELIEVE HE HAS NO OBJECTIONS.
7:13:11PM I WOULD HAVE HIM DO THAT ON THE RECORD.
7:13:13PM ALSO IT WOULD GIVE MR. BENTLEY AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE
7:13:16PM THINGS THAT HE WANTED ON THE SITE PLAN, INCLUDING ALL THE
7:13:20PM HOLIDAY THAT YOU WISH TO HAVE RECOMMENDED PLACED ON THE SITE
7:13:23PM PLAN, SO COUNCIL CAN HAVE THAT BEFORE IT MAKES A DECISION.
7:13:27PM SO RESPECTFULLY I WOULD ASK MR. BENTLEY TO ADDRESS THE IDEA
7:13:30PM OF CONTINUANCE UNTIL 10:30 A.M. ON THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING
7:13:34PM WHICH WILL BE JUNE 6th.
7:13:36PM >>MARK BENTLEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARTY.
7:13:39PM BEE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT, CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING,
7:13:43PM TO INVESTIGATE THOSE ISSUES.
7:13:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: THOUGHTS OF COUNCIL ON CONTINUANCE?
7:13:48PM AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE NARROW ISSUE
7:13:53PM OF THE CONTINUANCE?
7:13:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
7:13:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
7:13:58PM WE JUST NEED A MOTION.
7:14:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THAT BASED ON THE PETITIONER'S
7:14:02PM REQUEST, FOR CONTINUE ANXIOUS, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL
7:14:05PM ATTORNEY, TO BE EXTENDED THIS HEARING TO JUNE 6th, 2019.
7:14:17PM >>CHAIRMAN VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
7:14:19PM SECOND BY GOUDES.
7:14:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:14:24PM SECOND?
7:14:25PM ALL RIGHT.
7:14:25PM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
7:14:38PM >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
7:14:39PM COORDINATION.
7:14:40PM ITEM NUMBER 3 IS THE APPLICATION AB 2, 19-13, PROPERTY
7:14:45PM ADDRESS AT 1728 AND 1730 EAST 7TH AVENUE, CURRENT ZONING ON
7:14:49PM THE PROPERTY IS YC 1, FUTURE LAND USE URBAN MIXED USE 60.
7:14:54PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
7:14:56PM APPLICATION AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE
7:14:59PM CITY OF TAMPA LAND REGULATIONS.
7:15:01PM MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLANE WOULD NEED TO BE MADE
7:15:04PM BETWEEN THIS READING AND SECOND READ FIELD GOAL APPROVED
7:15:07PM TONIGHT.
7:15:07PM THE PROPERTY HAS AN APPROVED ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES,
7:15:10PM 2014-18, FILE AB 2-1405, SMALL VENUE, BEER AND WINE,
7:15:17PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES. EXISTING AB SALES AREA IS 1,470
7:15:20PM SQUARE FEET, FIRST FLOOR ONLY, WHICH CONTAINS 1,460 SQUARE
7:15:24PM FEET INDOOR AND 10 SQUARE FEET OUTDOORS.
7:15:27PM ALSO THE EXISTING AB SALES ORDINANCE HAS THE HOURS OF
7:15:29PM OPERATION WHICH STANDS CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
7:15:32PM THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING SPECIAL USE APPROVAL
7:15:34PM TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR A SMALL VENUE,
7:15:38PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
7:15:40PM THE PETITION IS NOT CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE AND THE
7:15:44PM PROPOSED USE IS RETAIL SALES WITH A CIGAR LOUNGE.
7:15:47PM THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA FOR THE PROPOSED PETITION IS 1903
7:15:52PM SQUARE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR ONLY WHICH CONTAINS 1,893
7:15:56PM SQUARE FEET INDOOR AND 10 SQUARE FEET OUTDOOR.
7:16:00PM THE OUTDOOR AREA THAT IS POINTED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT IN
7:16:02PM THE SITE PLAN AFTER -- IT'S ONE OF THE CORRECTIONS THAT WILL
7:16:06PM BE REQUIRED FOR SECOND READING BUT IT'S A LITTLE ENTRANCE TO
7:16:09PM THE ESTABLISHMENT.
7:16:10PM THE OUTDOOR AREA WOULD BE NEEDED IF THEY WANTED TO GO DOWN
7:16:16PM TO A SIDEWALK CAFE.
7:16:17PM THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE YC 1 ZONING DISTRICT AND
7:16:20PM OFF-STREET PARKING IS NOT REQUIRED IN YC 1 AND 3 OF THE
7:16:24PM ORIGINAL YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT.
7:16:26PM ALSO THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE YBOR CITY URBAN VILLAGE AND
7:16:29PM DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES
7:16:32PM ESTABLISHMENTS, IN ADDITION TO THE LIST OF MINOR CORRECTIONS
7:16:35PM IN THE STAFF REPORT THE SITE PLAN WILL NEED TO STATE THAT
7:16:37PM THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN A PARKING OR
7:16:40PM LOADING AREA OR SPACE, AND ALL PERMITS LISTED AFTER APRIL
7:16:45PM 1st, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT ON-SITE, THE SITE PLAN FOR
7:16:49PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
7:16:51PM PLANNING DESIGN AND COORDINATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT
7:16:53PM DUE TO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION
7:16:56PM 27-132 AND THAT'S A REDUCTION REQUIRING DISTANCE SEPARATION
7:17:00PM TO OTHER AB ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 250 FEET TO ZERO FEET.
7:17:05PM THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS DUE AMICI RESTAURANT.
7:17:14PM IT HOLDS A 4(COP) AND AGAIN ZERO FEET AWAY.
7:17:18PM SOME GENERAL PLANNING AND TRANSIT FINDINGS FOUND IT
7:17:22PM TYPICALLY RUNS WEEKDAYS TILL 11:30 P.M. AND WEEKENDS TILL
7:17:27PM 11:40 P.M.
7:17:28PM THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT IN
7:17:32PM THE YBOR CITY URBAN VILLAGE.
7:17:34PM CRITERIA ARE TO ARE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND REFERENCE AGAIN
7:17:36PM COME FROM SECTION 27-HAD 3, LIST OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES,
7:17:41PM SMALL VENUE, DEFINITION WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT
7:17:43PM WITH LESS THAN 300 PERSON OCCUPANCY.
7:17:46PM THE AB CLASSIFICATION OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION
7:17:49PM ON PREMISES ONLY, AND THE PROPOSED USES RETAIL SALES WITH
7:17:53PM THAT CIGAR LOUNGE USE AS WELL.
7:17:56PM SECTIONS FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER AS WELL ARE SECTION
7:17:59PM 27-IT 129 GENERAL STANDARDS, AS WELL AS SECTION 27-132
7:18:04PM REGULATIONS GOVERNING SPECIAL USES.
7:18:12PM THIS IS THE VICINITY MAP SHOWING THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IN
7:18:16PM RED.
7:18:19PM 1728 IS THE SMALLER PORTION.
7:18:20PM 1730 IS THE LARGER.
7:18:22PM BUT PART OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT WENT INTO THE OTHER ADDRESS
7:18:24PM AND THAT'S WHY THE BOUNDARIES REPRESENTING THIS PRESENTATION
7:18:26PM HERE.
7:18:28PM HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE FRONT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.
7:18:31PM THIS IS THE OUTDOOR AREA.
7:18:34PM THEY ARE SPLITTING IT WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT HERE.
7:18:36PM THAT WOULD BE THE 10 SQUARE FEET THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE
7:18:39PM STAFF REPORT.
7:18:39PM AGAIN, THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE.
7:18:41PM SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE REAR, THE ALLEY. THIS IS THE
7:18:44PM PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
7:18:48PM 1730 WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
7:18:53PM THE TOP PHOTO SHOWS SOUTH VIEW ON -- I'M SORRY THAT WOULD BE
7:18:59PM NOT SOUTH, THAT WOULD BE EAST ON 7th AVENUE.
7:19:02PM AND THEN THE BLOCK WHERE THE STRUCTURE END.
7:19:05PM THERE'S A PARKING LOT THERE.
7:19:06PM STAFF HAS PROVIDED A SITE PLAN IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS
7:19:09PM PRESENTED.
7:19:10PM THERE ARE MINOR CORRECTIONS THAT LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT
7:19:12PM AS WELL AS A MARKED UP SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED
7:19:14PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
7:19:16PM ADDITIONALLY, SOME OF THE NOTES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR
7:19:18PM SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS THAT ARE REQUESTED HERE TONIGHT
7:19:21PM SHOWING THE OUTDOOR AREA AND SUCH.
7:19:23PM AND THE TPD REPORT HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST.
7:19:28PM STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
7:19:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
7:19:33PM SEEING NONE, CAN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT?
7:19:44PM >> VICTOR DIMAIO, 4925 INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY, SUITE 195. I'M
7:19:50PM HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
7:19:56PM MIKE AND HIS MOM ARE RUNNING THE CIGAR STORE FOR THE LAST
7:20:02PM HALF A DOZEN YEARS.
7:20:04PM THEY HAVE BEER AND WINE NOW.
7:20:05PM THEY HAVE HAD BEER AND WINE FOR THE LAST HALF DOZEN YEARS.
7:20:09PM HE ALSO HAS HALF A DOZEN CIGAR ROLLERS THAT MAKE CUSTOM HAND
7:20:13PM ROLLED THAT HE SELLS NOT ONLY IN THE STORES BUT HE HAS
7:20:17PM PEOPLE BUYING THE TAMPA HAND-MADE CIGARS LITERALLY ALL OVER
7:20:21PM THE WORLD, COME TO BUY HIS CIGARS.
7:20:24PM SO IT'S A GREAT LITTLE PLACE.
7:20:26PM A VERY SMALL VENUE, ABOUT 20, 30 PEOPLE.
7:20:29PM AND IT'S ON 7th AVENUE SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S IN THE HEART
7:20:37PM OF THE 7th AVENUE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE
7:20:41PM WALK FROM DOOR TO DOOR TO HAVE A DRINK OR ENJOY A CIGAR.
7:20:45PM SO HE WANTS TO SIMPLY HAVE THE OPTION, AS KING CORONA DID
7:20:49PM JUST RECENTLY, WITH THE PRIOR COUNCIL. THEY HAD BEER AND
7:20:53PM WINE FOR MANY YEARS AND DECIDED TO GO WITH FULL LIQUOR
7:20:56PM BECAUSE PEOPLE COME TO A BAR RESTAURANT, AND ONE PERSON
7:20:59PM WANTS A BEER, ANOTHER PERSON WANTS A GLASS OF WINE, ANOTHER
7:21:01PM PERSON WANTS A RUM, SO MIKE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT
7:21:04PM OPPORTUNITY.
7:21:04PM WE HAVE AGREED TO MEET ALL THE STANDARD AND REQUESTS BETWEEN
7:21:08PM THE FIRST AND SECOND READING.
7:21:12PM JUST AS A NOTE TO THE COUNCIL, IF DISTANCE WAIVER
7:21:20PM REQUIREMENTS, IT'S ALWAYS IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET DISTANCE WAIVER
7:21:24PM REQUIREMENTS ON 7th AVENUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BARS AND
7:21:26PM RESTAURANTS ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.
7:21:29PM SO IT MAKES SENSE IN SOME PARTS OF TOWN.
7:21:31PM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN OTHERS.
7:21:33PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
7:21:34PM THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS.
7:21:35PM SO I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND ALMOST EVERY
7:21:40PM AB, ALMOST EVERY AB REQUEST THAT COMES BEFORE YOU IS GOING
7:21:45PM TO HAVE THE INCONSISTENT WAIVER BECAUSE THERE'S NO PERFECT
7:21:47PM PLACE.
7:21:47PM TAMPA HAS BEEN LAID OUT FOR 150 YEARS, AND THERE'S NO
7:21:50PM PERFECT LOCATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR A BAR, RESTAURANT.
7:21:54PM THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
7:21:59PM IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE HERE.
7:22:01PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, QUICK AND EASY.
7:22:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
7:22:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
7:22:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:22:11PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO BE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, NUMBER
7:22:13PM 3?
7:22:15PM SEEING NONE.
7:22:18PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
7:22:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] I WAS READING THROUGH
7:22:26PM THE STAFF REPORT, LISTENING TO YOUR PRESENTATION.
7:22:31PM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY TYPE OF PACKAGE SALES AT ALL,
7:22:36PM CORRECT?
7:22:38PM >> NO.
7:22:38PM >> THANK YOU.
7:22:45PM >> HE DOES HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION.
7:22:47PM IF THIS IS GRANTED, THAT IN FRONT OF HIS LITTLE PLACE, THEY
7:22:51PM BUY A SEPARATE CAFE PERMIT WHICH CAME ONLINE MANY YEARS AGO,
7:22:55PM I THINK MAYBE YOURSELF, LINDA SAUL-SENA, ALLOWED CAFE
7:23:01PM PERMITS FOR BEER AND WINE.
7:23:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE CAFE PERMIT BEING ON THE SIDEWALK?
7:23:08PM >> ON THE SIDEWALK, YES.
7:23:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AGAIN, JUST ON PREMISES.
7:23:12PM >> STRICTLY ON PREMISES, CORRECT.
7:23:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OR ADJACENT.
7:23:17PM >> EXACTLY.
7:23:21PM THE WAY SOME OTHERS.
7:23:26PM BENIDI'S COMES TO MIND.
7:23:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
7:23:36PM ANYBODY ELSE?
7:23:37PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK?
7:23:38PM NO?
7:23:39PM >> I SPOKE TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND ALL THE JOINT BUSINESSES
7:23:44PM AND NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATIONS.
7:23:46PM NOBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS.
7:23:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
7:23:51PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
7:23:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:23:53PM ALL RIGHT.
7:23:54PM I BELIEVE IT IS COUNCILMAN GUDES.
7:24:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AB 2-19-13, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
7:24:10PM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
7:24:14PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SALES SMALL VENUE
7:24:18PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
7:24:21PM BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND
7:24:24PM LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
7:24:27PM 1728 AND 1730 EAST 7TH AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
7:24:32PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
7:24:35PM ORDINANCES OR PART OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
7:24:39PM REPEALING ORDINANCE 2014-18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7:24:43PM I. IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THE AGREEMENT TO BE MADE BETWEEN
7:24:48PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
7:24:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ACCEPT THEM.
7:24:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
7:24:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:24:58PM OPPOSED?
7:24:59PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
7:25:02PM VOTE.
7:25:03PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 27, 2019,
7:25:06PM 9:30 A.M.
7:25:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:25:09PM WE MOVE TO THE FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING WHICH IS ITEM
7:25:12PM NUMBER 4.
7:25:13PM >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
7:25:15PM COORDINATION.
7:25:16PM ITEM NUMBER 4 IS THE APPLICATION AB 2-19-14 LOCATED AT 3924
7:25:22PM WEST SPRUCE STREET.
7:25:23PM CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
7:25:26PM AND FUTURE LAND USE RMU 100, REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
7:25:30PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND STAFF FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
7:25:35PM APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
7:25:37PM SHOULD IT BE APPROVED TONIGHT AFTER THIS READING, MINOR
7:25:40PM CORRECTIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED AT SECOND READING.
7:25:44PM THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS AN APPROVED ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
7:25:47PM SALES ORDINANCE 2012-92, FILE B12-213, FOR SMALL BEER AND
7:25:54PM WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISES
7:25:58PM CONSUMPTION.
7:25:58PM THE EXISTING AB SALES AREA IS 18,713.9 SQUARE FEET WHICH
7:26:03PM CONTAINS 11,089.78 SQUARE FEET INDOOR AND 7,624.13 SQUARE
7:26:11PM FEET OUTDOOR.
7:26:12PM THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE APPROVAL
7:26:14PM TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR LARGE VENUE
7:26:18PM BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES IN PACKAGE SALES --
7:26:22PM I'M SORRY, PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
7:26:26PM THE PROPOSED USES ARE RESTAURANT, MICROBREWERY, LIGHT
7:26:31PM MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSE, RETAIL SALES AND OFFICE.
7:26:32PM THE TOTAL SALES AREA IS 49,660.14 SQUARE FEET WHICH CONTAINS
7:26:38PM 41,937.48 SQUARE FEET INDOOR AND 7,722.66 SQUARE FEET
7:26:45PM OUTDOOR.
7:26:46PM THE SITE IS SHOWING A TOTAL OF 124 PARKING SPACES; 64 OF
7:26:50PM THEM ARE ON-SITE AND 60 OFF-SITE FOR DESIGN EXCEPTION
7:26:54PM 1-16-19.
7:26:56PM AND THE SITE REQUIRES A TOTAL OF 148 PARKING SPACES WHICH IS
7:27:00PM A 16% REDUCTION.
7:27:01PM THE PROPOSED AB SALES HOURS ARE LISTED AS MONDAY THROUGH
7:27:06PM SUNDAY, FROM 8 A.M. TO 3 A.M., WITH NO AB SALES PRIOR TO
7:27:11PM 11 A.M. ON SUNDAYS. THIS PROPERTY IS ALONG A MIXED USE
7:27:15PM CORRIDOR AND REQUIRES 250 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES AND 250
7:27:18PM FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
7:27:20PM THE SITE PLAN STATES THAT THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT BE
7:27:23PM LOCATED WITHIN A PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE AND ALL
7:27:26PM PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT
7:27:29PM ON-SITE, A COPY OF ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND THE ASSOCIATED SITE
7:27:33PM PLAN FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT.
7:27:35PM THE WAIVERS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT COME FROM SECTION 27-132 TO
7:27:39PM REDUCE THE REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION TO RESIDENTIAL USES
7:27:40PM FROM 250 FEET TO 91 FEET AND SECTION 27-283.7 TO REDUCE THE
7:27:48PM REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 148 TO 124 SPACES.
7:27:53PM AGAIN A 16% REDUCTION.
7:27:56PM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL USE THAT'S LISTED FOR THE 250 FEET
7:27:59PM IS LOCATED AT 2002 NORTH GRADY STREET, ZONED RS-50 AND IT'S
7:28:04PM 91 FEET AWAY.
7:28:05PM THERE WERE NO AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN 250 FEET.
7:28:10PM HART ROUTE TYPICALLY RUNS WEEKDAYS FROM 5 A.M. TO 10:30 P.M.
7:28:14PM AND WEEKENDS FROM 6 A.M. TO 10:36 P.M.
7:28:17PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT
7:28:18PM AND SUBJECT TO SECTION 27-238.
7:28:22PM LAND DEVELOPMENT DID -- PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
7:28:25PM COORDINATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE DISTANCE
7:28:28PM SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL AS THE
7:28:32PM REDUCTION IN THE PARKING SPACES.
7:28:34PM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ALSO FOUND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO
7:28:36PM THE REDUCTION OF THE PARKING.
7:28:39PM CODE CRITERIA FOR COUNCIL REFERENCE AND CONSIDERATION COME
7:28:41PM FROM 27-43 DEFINITIONS.
7:28:44PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES IS A LARGE VENUE DEFINED AS A
7:28:47PM COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT WITH MORE THAN 299 PERSON OCCUPANCY
7:28:50PM WHICH SELLS ALCOHOL.
7:28:52PM THE AB CLASSIFICATION LISTED AS BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON
7:28:56PM PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
7:28:59PM ALSO LISTED ARE THE PROPOSED USES AS RESTAURANT,
7:29:02PM MICROBREWERY AND WAREHOUSE.
7:29:03PM SECTION 27-129 GENERAL STANDARDS ARE THERE FOR YOUR
7:29:07PM REFERENCE AS WELL AS SECTION 27-132 REGULATIONS GOVERNING
7:29:11PM INDIVIDUALS SPECIAL USES.
7:29:19PM THERE'S A VICINITY MAP OF THE AREA.
7:29:21PM YOU HAVE SPRUCE AND NORTH GRADY OUTLINED IN RED.
7:29:28PM HERE IS THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF
7:29:33PM THE PROPERTY.
7:29:34PM THOSE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
7:29:36PM YOU CAN SEE THE RS-50 ZONING WITH A CI, AND THE CI HERE.
7:29:43PM TOP PICTURE IS THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE ON SPRUCE, AND
7:29:46PM THIS IS A PICTURE SHOWING THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING AREA.
7:29:50PM TOP PICTURE KIND OF SHOWS THE PICTURE OF THE PARKING AREA
7:29:53PM THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THERE.
7:29:56PM AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING OVER GRADY STREET. YOU
7:30:00PM CAN SEEP THERE'S SO BUFFERING.
7:30:04PM HERE IS GRADY AVENUE LOOKING SOUTH.
7:30:06PM AND WEST VIEW ON SPRUCE STREET.
7:30:11PM THERE'S AN EAST VIEW ON SPRUCE.
7:30:12PM AND BELOW IS THE 2002 NORTH GRADY STREET WHICH IS THE
7:30:16PM CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE
7:30:20PM SUBJECT PROPERTY.
7:30:23PM THE LAST PICTURE SHOWS 4005 WEST SPRUCE STREET, AND THAT'S
7:30:27PM THE ADDRESS APPROVED IN DESIGN EXCEPTION 1, 16-19 FOR
7:30:30PM OFF-SITE PARKING ACROSS THE CROSSWALK IN THIS VICINITY HERE.
7:30:34PM THE SITE PLAN WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR YOUR
7:30:37PM REVIEW AS WELL AS THE HARD COPIES, AND THE SITE PLAN ALSO
7:30:40PM HAS A FLOOR PLAN. THIS FLOOR PLAN IS IN CONSTRUCTION
7:30:43PM SERVICES RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE OCCUPANCY
7:30:46PM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH PERMITTING FOR.
7:30:50PM I ALSO PROVIDED A MARKED UP SITE PLAN THAT WILL HAVE SOME
7:30:53PM CORRECTIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, SUCH AS THE SITE TABLE,
7:30:58PM APPARENTLY JUST LEFT OFF.
7:30:59PM I HAD AFTER THE ARC MEETING AND SOME ON THE CORRECTIONS TO
7:31:03PM THE SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE REQUIRED.
7:31:06PM TPD PROVIDED A STAFF REPORT AND HIGH PRESSURE NO OBJECTIONS
7:31:08PM TO THIS REQUEST. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT
7:31:10PM YOU MAY HAVE.
7:31:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
7:31:18PM THANK YOU, SIR.
7:31:18PM >>JULIA MANDELL: GRAY ROBINSON, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET,
7:31:24PM HERE REPRESENTING CIGAR CITY BREWERY, FOR THE APPLICATION
7:31:27PM THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
7:31:29PM I WILL BE ASKING JUSTIN CLARK, WHO IS THE CHIEF OPERATING
7:31:32PM OFFICER OF CIGAR CITY, TO DISCUSS THEIR CHANGE IN THEIR
7:31:36PM PLANS AND CHANGE OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL TO INCLUDE A
7:31:39PM RESTAURANT, BUT I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS
7:31:42PM BEFORE I ASK HIM TO SPEAK.
7:31:45PM AS RYAN INDICATED THIS IS THE SUBJECT AND SOME OF YOU MAY
7:31:48PM REMEMBER OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGE PERMIT, SPECIAL USE, THAT
7:31:52PM DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WAS REALLY KIND OF A NEW MODEL OF
7:31:55PM A BREWERY WITH A TASTING ROOM IN IF.
7:31:58PM SO THAT WENT THROUGH SOME GROWING PAINS, BUT ULTIMATELY
7:32:01PM TURNED OUT TO BE OBVIOUSLY VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND CIGAR CITY
7:32:04PM IS NOW ONE OF THE GREATEST REPRESENTATIONS OF TAMPA AS YOU
7:32:09PM LEAVE THE AREA ALONG WITH CUBAN SANDWICHES.
7:32:14PM BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE
7:32:16PM BETWEEN THE OLD ALCOHOL PERMIT AND MUCH THE NEW ALCOHOL
7:32:19PM PERMIT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE APPLICATION ON ITS
7:32:22PM FACE IT SEEMS THAT IT'S A VERY EXTRAVAGANT EXPANSION OF WHAT
7:32:26PM IS CURRENTLY THERE, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE CASE.
7:32:30PM THE PREVIOUS APPROVED APPLICATION WAS DONE IN A VERY
7:32:35PM INTERESTING WAY, TO SAY THE LEAST.
7:32:38PM AND I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SHOW IT ON THE ELMO.
7:32:42PM WE CALL IT AN ELMO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT.
7:32:44PM AND WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS THIS AREA IS REALLY THE
7:32:48PM EXISTING TASTING ROOM, AND THIS IS PART OF THE EXISTING
7:32:52PM SPECIAL USE ALCOHOL AREA.
7:32:56PM THEN THERE IS A SIDEWALK AREA, WHICH IS THE OUTSIDE AREA,
7:33:02PM AND GOES INTO A CAFE AREA, AND A VERY CERTAIN TIME AREA
7:33:08PM UNDERSTOOD WHICH ALCOHOL SALES AND COUPLES WAS ALLOWED
7:33:10PM UNDERSTOOD THIS OLD APPLICATION.
7:33:13PM HERE IS ONE SHOWING THAT IT IS HIGHLIGHTED.
7:33:17PM AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THIS, THE OLD ALCOHOL BEVERAGE APPROVAL
7:33:20PM DID NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BUILDING, AND THAT WAS AT THE
7:33:23PM TIME DONE FOR PROBABLY A LOT OF PURPOSES BUT IT WAS REALLY
7:33:27PM JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE WHERE THE TOURS ARE.
7:33:29PM SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT'S WHERE THE TOURS WERE
7:33:32PM HAPPENING, AND TECHNICALLY, THE OUTSIDE TOUR AREA AND THEY
7:33:38PM WERE HOLDING A BEER, THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE.
7:33:41PM SO IN GOING THROUGH THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, IT WAS THOUGHT
7:33:43PM THAT THE BETTER APPROACH WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THE
7:33:46PM ENTIRE EXISTING BUILDING IN THE WET ZONED AREA IN ORDER TO
7:33:52PM ACCOMMODATE TOURS THAT MAY GO IN CERTAIN AREAS.
7:33:55PM YOU WILL SEE, THOUGH, ON THE SITE PLAN AS IT STANDS TODAY,
7:33:59PM THAT THE AREA WHERE THE RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BE IS IN
7:34:03PM APPROXIMATELY THE SAME LOCATION AS THE TASTING ROOM IS
7:34:06PM TODAY.
7:34:06PM AND THE REST OF THE USES ARE DIRECTLY ON THE SITE PLAN.
7:34:10PM SO ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY LARGE EXPANSION, IT REALLY
7:34:14PM ISN'T.
7:34:14PM IT JUST ACCOMMODATING WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY.
7:34:18PM AND DELINEATING THOSE USES.
7:34:20PM AND WHAT THIS ALCOHOL BEVERAGE APPLICATION IS REALLY DOING
7:34:23PM IS ALLOWING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE EXISTING TASTING
7:34:26PM ROOM INTO A RESTAURANT, AND TO ACCOMMODATE A KITCHEN.
7:34:30PM AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, AND ADDING APPROXIMATELY 1200
7:34:34PM SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT SPACE INTO THE EXISTING AREA, IT
7:34:38PM REQUIRED US TO GO THROUGH A NEW ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
7:34:41PM APPLICATION, AS WELL AS CREATING A CHANGE OF USE WHICH
7:34:46PM REQUIRED COMPLIANCE WITH THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY.
7:34:49PM SO THAT'S WHAT'S IN SITE PLAN REVIEW TO DETERMINE CERTAIN
7:34:52PM UPGRADE TO THE PROPERTY TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
7:34:54PM WESTSHORE OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS.
7:34:57PM THE OTHER CHANGES ON THE SITE PLAN YOU WILL SEE RELATE
7:35:01PM DIRECTLY TO SALES HOURS, AND THE SALES HOURS AS THEY
7:35:06PM PREVIOUSLY WERE AT THE TIME WERE DONE IN ORDER TO A SURE A
7:35:10PM COMMUNITY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS USE.
7:35:12PM AND WHAT WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR, IT'S A LITTLE BIT
7:35:16PM CONFUSED ON THE SITE PLAN AND ALSO ON THE WAY ON THE SITE
7:35:22PM PLAN IS REALLY TO IN COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 14, WHICH HAS
7:35:25PM BEEN THE NORM OF THE TIME.
7:35:28PM I KNOW IT WAS PART OF PREVIOUS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S NORM
7:35:31PM BUT HAS BEEN ON THE NORM OVER TIME TO JUST BE IN COMPLIANCE
7:35:34PM WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
7:35:36PM IT IS THE CIGAR CITY BREWING INTENT TO GO AHEAD AND EXPAND
7:35:41PM THOSE HOURS BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 14 AND THAT IS
7:35:44PM ACTUALLY STATED ON THE SITE PLAN, IS THEIR INTENT.
7:35:51PM I THINK WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HERE IS THE SITE PLAN IS
7:35:54PM MORE CLEAR AND CONCISE AND WILL INCLUDE THE EXPANSION OF
7:35:57PM THIS USE AND WILL BE BETTER IN LINE WITH WHAT THE
7:35:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO SEE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY NEIGHBORHOOD
7:36:01PM OPPOSITION BECAUSE THIS WOULD CREATE A RESTAURANT MORE THAN
7:36:04PM JUST A TASTING ROOM AND THAT IS REALLY WHERE I THINK CIGAR
7:36:07PM CITY WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.
7:36:09PM AT THIS POINT IN TIME I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK IF
7:36:13PM JUSTIN PARK TO GO AHEAD AND GET UP AND DESCRIBE THAT MODEL.
7:36:16PM AND THEN I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
7:36:18PM >> JUSTIN CLARK, 210 SOUTH WOODLAWN AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA
7:36:32PM 33609.
7:36:34PM CIGAR CITY BREWING OPENED OUR DOORS IN 2009, AT A TIME WHEN
7:36:39PM SMALL CRAFT BREWERIES WAS SOMETHING NEW FOR THE CITY OF
7:36:42PM TAMPA.
7:36:43PM I'M EXCITED TO SAY THEY ARE MUCH MORE PREVALENT NOW, AND
7:36:46PM CIGAR CITY BREWERY HAS HELPED SHINE A LIGHT ON TAMPA.
7:36:49PM WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE A SMALL PIECE IN TAMPA'S HISTORY.
7:36:53PM WE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL BEFORE.
7:36:57PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD FULL ROOMS ON
7:37:02PM BOTH SIDE OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. AS WE CONTINUED TO
7:37:05PM GROW, THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY AND I AM PROUD TO SEE
7:37:08PM THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OPPOSITION THAT HAS BEEN
7:37:10PM PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, AND I DO NOT SEE ANY IN EVENING.
7:37:14PM AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO CHANGE OUR USE
7:37:17PM TO OUR PREMISE SO THAT WE MAY ADD A KITCHEN.
7:37:20PM WE ARE BREWING UP AND WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE EVER
7:37:23PM CHANGING MARKET.
7:37:24PM CIGAR CITY BREWING IS VERY FORTUNATE.
7:37:28PM WE ARE INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AND WE DIDN'T OUR THE MADE
7:37:31PM PRODUCTS TO 33 STATES CURRENTLY AND IT WILL BE ABOUT 38 BY
7:37:34PM THE END OF THIS YEAR.
7:37:35PM WE ARE CURRENTLY RANKED THE FOURTH BEST BREWERY IN THE WORLD
7:37:38PM ON RATE BEER.COM AND THIS PAST YEAR WE HAVE WON TWO MEDALS
7:37:42PM AT THE GREAT AMERICAN BEER FESTIVAL, WHERE PEOPLE COME TO
7:37:45PM VISIT, THEY ARE ABLE TO LEAVE HERE WITH A TAMPA-MADE
7:37:47PM PRODUCT.
7:37:48PM IT'S EXCITING THAT OUR BRAND HAS BEEN USED IN BETS BY THE
7:37:54PM CITY, AND WITH WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT, AS THE CITY
7:37:57PM MUST BE PROUD OF US.
7:37:59PM WE CONSTANTLY PITCH OURSELVES THAT WE ARE MENTIONED IN
7:38:02PM CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TAMPA WITH THE LIKES OF MacDILL,
7:38:05PM BUSCH GARDENS, THE RIVERWALK, THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING.
7:38:09PM WE ARE ASKING FOR A PARKING WAIVER TODAY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT
7:38:11PM TO NOTE IF CHANGES OUR AREA HAS SEEN SINCE THE LAST TIME WE
7:38:16PM WERE UP HERE AND SINCE WE OPENED OUR DOORS IN 2009.
7:38:19PM WE HAVE NOT JUST ONE APARTMENT AND CONNED-LOCATIONS IN OUR
7:38:23PM AREA BUT MULTIPLE HAVE BEEN BUILT.
7:38:27PM FOR RESIDENT TO CALL HOME ALONG WITH THE RESIDENT THAT HAVE
7:38:29PM BEEN THERE IN CARVER CITY AND LINCOLN GARDENS FOR MANY, MANY
7:38:33PM YEARS.
7:38:33PM IN FACT WE ARE THE VERY FIRST BICYCLE FRIENDLY BUSINESS IN
7:38:36PM THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT, AND ONE OF THE VERY FIRST IN TAMPA.
7:38:40PM A DISTINCTION THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY PROUD OF SINCE WE
7:38:43PM EARNED IT IN 2016.
7:38:44PM WE ARE PROUD TO SAY THAT THERE ARE NOW FOUR IN THE WESTSHORE
7:38:47PM DISTRICT.
7:38:47PM THIS MORNING I RODE MY BIKE IN THE MAYOR'S RIDE TO WORK DAY
7:38:52PM AND CIGAR CITY BREWERY CALLED TO THE FRONT FOR THE BUSINESS
7:38:57PM FRIENDLY BUSINESSES IN THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE ADOPTING AS A
7:39:00PM T CITY OF TAMPA IS ADAPTING. WE AN OFFICIAL UBER AND LYFT
7:39:05PM DROP-OFF POINT AS COMMUTERS TRAVEL TO AND FROM OUR BUSINESS.
7:39:09PM AND I THINK THAT SHOWS THE REDUCED NEED FOR PARKING.
7:39:13PM WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE WITH THE CUSTOMER.
7:39:15PM WE GIVE APPROXIMATELY 10,000 TOURS A YEAR, WITH THE CHANGE
7:39:19PM OF USE WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADD A KITCHEN AND ENHANCE
7:39:22PM THAT EXPERIENCE THAT OUR INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC GUESTS
7:39:25PM ENJOY.
7:39:26PM WE ARE ALSO GOING TO ADD 50 FULL TIME AND PART TIME JOBS TO
7:39:30PM JOIN THE 59 FULL TIME JOBS THAT WE HAVE NOW ALONG WITH THREE
7:39:33PM PART TIME.
7:39:34PM WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING ANOTHER OPTION FOR OUR GUESTS IN THE
7:39:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD BY OPENING A KITCHEN, WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING
7:39:40PM ELSE FOR THE LOCALS AND TOURISTS BESIDES OUR WONDERFUL AWARD
7:39:44PM WINNING BEERS.
7:39:45PM WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS AT OUR FABULOUS TAMPA INTERNATIONAL
7:39:47PM AIRPORT, AND OF COURSE THE ONE THE LOCATION AT SPRUCE STREET
7:39:51PM THAT WE ARE SPEAKING OF TONIGHT.
7:39:53PM WE HAVE CONTINUED TO INVEST IN TAMPA AND WE ARE ASKING THAT
7:39:56PM TAMPA CONTINUES TO MAKE IT EASY FOR US AND OTHERS TO DO
7:39:59PM BUSINESS IN THE AREA.
7:39:59PM I HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF OUR APPLICATION TODAY.
7:40:02PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:40:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, CERTAIN.
7:40:06PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
7:40:10PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
7:40:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A COUPLE.
7:40:13PM ONE THING, ON THE STAFF REPORT IT LOOKS LIKE PERHAPS THERE'S
7:40:16PM A TYPO THAT SAYS BELMAR SHORES CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS A
7:40:22PM PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATION.
7:40:23PM THAT SOUNDS ODD.
7:40:25PM >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT
7:40:28PM COORDINATION.
7:40:29PM WHAT'S LISTED, THE APPLICANT HAS TO SEARCH FOR THE
7:40:31PM ORGANIZATIONS FOR OUR APPLICATION, AND WHAT YOU TYPICALLY DO
7:40:34PM IS GO TO OUR WEBSITE, AND TYPE IN FOLIO, AND THEY PROVIDE
7:40:38PM YOU A LIST OF PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS.
7:40:40PM ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OUT THERE, THE ORGANIZATIONS ON
7:40:43PM THERE, SOME OF THE ADDRESSES LIKE THAT, AND THIS WAS MY
7:40:46PM SEARCH THAT I CONDUCTED FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
7:40:47PM WHEN I TYPED THE FOLIO NUMBER IN, THESE WERE THE
7:40:50PM PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS.
7:40:52PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S A PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATION?
7:40:54PM I THOUGHT IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN --
7:40:57PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THEY REGISTER.
7:40:59PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT JUST MEANS THEY ARE INTERESTED AND
7:41:00PM THEY WANT TO BE NOTIFIED?
7:41:02PM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7:41:03PM YES.
7:41:06PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO DO THEY HAVE ANY STANDING?
7:41:08PM JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE?
7:41:12PM BELMAR SHORES IS SOUTHWEST.
7:41:16PM >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7:41:17PM NO, THAT WOULDN'T PROVIDE THEM ANY SORT OF LEGAL STANDING.
7:41:20PM HOWEVER, IT WAS CITY COUNCIL'S DESIRE AT THE TIME TO EXPAND
7:41:24PM THE NOTICE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BEYOND JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD
7:41:29PM ASSOCIATIONS THAT WERE IN THE NOTICED AREA TO THOSE WHO
7:41:34PM ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE.
7:41:35PM SO THAT WAS CITY COUNCIL'S CHOICE AND THAT'S WHAT THE CODE
7:41:38PM SAYS.
7:41:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST NOTICED IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD THAT
7:41:45PM IT'S LISTED ON THE REPORT AND BEING THAT IT'S TEN MILES
7:41:48PM AWAY.
7:41:49PM OKAY.
7:41:50PM SO BACK TO MORE SERIOUS QUESTIONS.
7:41:54PM I DO RECALL -- I DO BELIEVE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS THING
7:41:58PM EVER CAME, THIS PROJECT EVER CAME TO COUNCIL, AND I DO
7:42:03PM RECALL THAT.
7:42:04PM THERE WAS A HUGE UPROAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY WERE
7:42:07PM WORRIED IT WAS GOING TO BE A 49,000 SQUARE-FOOT STRIP JOINT.
7:42:12PM AND I BASICALLY TOLD THEM THAT THAT WAS SILLY, AND THEY GOT
7:42:18PM MAD AT ME, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS.
7:42:21PM AND I COMMEND MR. REDNER AND EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED.
7:42:27PM BUT GOING TO THE SPECIFIC PETITION, THE PARKING ISSUE, I
7:42:33PM THOUGHT YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET.
7:42:39PM IS THAT ALLOWABLE FOR THIS?
7:42:40PM >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT
7:42:41PM COORDINATION.
7:42:43PM I POINTED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS HERE IT'S THE
7:42:45PM DESIGN EXCEPTION WHERE THEY HAVE OFF-SITE PARKING.
7:42:47PM THAT'S WHERE THE CITY RECOGNIZES OFF-SITE PARKING AT A
7:42:50PM SEPARATE LOCATION.
7:42:51PM THEY MADE A LEGAL LEASE AGREEMENT FOR FIVE YEARS, HAVE TO BE
7:42:55PM WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, BUT THAT WAS THE DESIGN EXCEPTION
7:42:58PM 1-16-19.
7:43:00PM SO WE HAVE A COPY HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO PRESENT IT.
7:43:06PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL ME IN A NUTSHELL WHAT YOU ARE
7:43:08PM SAYING.
7:43:09PM >>RYAN MANASSE: AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THEY HAVE 124 PARKING
7:43:14PM SPACES THAT THE CITY RECOGNIZES.
7:43:17PM 64 OF THOSE ARE ON-SITE AND THE OTHER 60 THROUGH THE DESIGN
7:43:20PM EXCEPTION 1-16-19.
7:43:24PM THEY ARE STILL INSUFFICIENTLY PARKED, THOUGH.
7:43:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW MUCH ARE THEY SHORT?
7:43:28PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THEY ARE SHORT -- THEY REQUIRE 148 SPACES
7:43:33PM SO IT A 16% REDUCTION.
7:43:34PM SO THEY HAVE 124.
7:43:37PM AND THEY HAVE -- THEY REQUIRE 148.
7:43:43PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THIS SAYS 135.
7:43:44PM SO WHAT'S THAT?
7:43:47PM ON THE PAGE 37.
7:43:50PM >>RYAN MANASSE: THERE'S A TYPO IN THE SITE DATA TABLE.
7:43:55PM THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO ME COMPLETELY EXCLUDED
7:43:58PM THE SITE DATA TABLE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ON.
7:44:00PM SO THAT WAS JUST A TYPO, AND THAT WILL BE CORRECTED BETWEEN
7:44:03PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
7:44:06PM TO REFLECT THE TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING SPACES AT 148,
7:44:10PM PROVIDED 64 ON-SITE AND 60 THROUGH THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
7:44:14PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
7:44:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:44:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL?
7:44:18PM SIR, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER?
7:44:20PM >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK A CLARIFICATION.
7:44:22PM IN THE STAFF REPORT I DID DEPICT THE HOURS OF OPERATION
7:44:25PM BECAUSE THEY ARE STATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
7:44:27PM EVEN THOUGH IT'S CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 WHICH THE LIST
7:44:30PM HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14, IT SPECIFICALLY LISTS
7:44:32PM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 8 A.M. TO 3 A.M. AND NO SALES PRIOR
7:44:36PM TO 11 A.M. ON SUNDAYS.
7:44:40PM WHETHER IT'S CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 OR WE ARE GOING TO
7:44:42PM HOLD THEM TO THESE HOURS LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN.
7:44:45PM >> WE ARE COMFORTABLE COMPLYING WITH JUST CHAPTER 14.
7:44:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
7:44:55PM >>JULIA MANDELL: WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND
7:44:58PM SECOND READING TO REMOVE THE HOURS AND JUST LEAVE THE
7:45:00PM STATEMENT CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 AS WELL AS THE OTHER
7:45:02PM CHANGES, WHICH STAFF HAS REQUESTED THAT BE MADE BETWEEN
7:45:06PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
7:45:07PM WE WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL WITH THOSE CHANGES.
7:45:09PM THANK YOU.
7:45:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
7:45:13PM AND I WANTED TO JOIN IN WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
7:45:17PM COMMENTS.
7:45:19PM NO RELEVANCY TO THIS APPLICATION, BUT JUST THAT CIGAR CITY
7:45:23PM BREWING.
7:45:37PM [NO ENCODER]
7:45:37PM [NO ENCODER]
7:45:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE FINISH, I JUST WANT TO SAY I
7:45:51PM HAVE REPRESENTED THIS DISTRICT THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND NOT
7:45:53PM ONCE HAVE I RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINT ABOUT CIGAR CITY, PERIOD.
7:45:58PM AND I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS THE ISSUE THAT CAME UP ON THE
7:46:03PM TASTING ROOMS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER
7:46:06PM MENTIONED IT BUT THEY HAD NEVER SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE IN
7:46:12PM SUPPORT OF SOMETHING.
7:46:12PM I THINK IT'S A GEM WHEN PEOPLE COME TO TAMPA.
7:46:19PM BUT I HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT CIGAR CITY A LOT.
7:46:22PM PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE THAT SPECIFICALLY
7:46:24PM WILL TAKE THEIR FAMILY TO DISNEY WORLD, AND THEY MAKE A TRIP
7:46:28PM TO TAMPA JUST TO GO TO CIGAR CITY.
7:46:30PM I BELIEVE IT WAS A FAMILY FROM GERMANY THAT DID THAT AND I
7:46:33PM HEARD THEM SAY THAT. ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING AT THE
7:46:37PM DISTRICT I REPRESENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
7:46:40PM YOU HAVE DONE VERY WELL.
7:46:41PM SO HAVING SAID THAT, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
7:46:44PM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
7:46:46PM SPECIAL USE EXPERIMENT 2 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE
7:46:52PM VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES
7:46:56PM CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT
7:46:59PM OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
7:47:02PM 3924 WEST SPRUCE STREET TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
7:47:06PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES IN OR
7:47:09PM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEAL
7:47:12PM ORDINANCE 2012-92, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND ANY
7:47:16PM CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP
7:47:18PM BY THE APPLICANT.
7:47:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:47:22PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:47:24PM ALL IN -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
7:47:29PM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7:47:34PM SECOND READING AND HEARING AT 9:30 A.M. ON--
7:47:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COULD YOU ASK MR. REDNER TO CONSIDER BREWING
7:47:46PM A GINGER BEER?
7:47:47PM [ LAUGHTER ]
7:47:52PM >> WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND BEERS BUT I THINK TO CELEBRATE
7:47:58PM THIS OCCASION WE SHOULD TRY SOMETHING NEW VERY SOON.
7:48:01PM >> NONALCOHOL, PLEASE.
7:48:06PM >> IF I MAY TAKE A MOMENT WE ARE EXPERIMENTING WITH A YEAST
7:48:08PM THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO SOMETHING WITH PRODUCT SO WE'LL
7:48:11PM KEEP YOU POSTED.
7:48:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU AGAIN.
7:48:15PM NOW WE GO TO MOTIONS AND WHATNOT.
7:48:20PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
7:48:23PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND NOW THAT WE ARE OUT OF THAT PUBLIC
7:48:24PM HEARING, I WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO OUR FORMER CITY ATTORNEY,
7:48:29PM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE OVER THE MANY YEARS.
7:48:32PM WELCOME BACK.
7:48:33PM GOOD TO SEE YOU.
7:48:38PM IN REGARD TO FUTURE BUSINESS, THIS MORNING, I MADE REFERENCE
7:48:42PM TO A WORKSHOP ON RESILIENCY, AND THEN I FORGOT, BUT I WOULD
7:48:51PM LIKE TO SCHEDULE THAT FOR LATER IN THE SUMMER.
7:48:55PM MAYBE AUGUST OR EVEN SEPTEMBER.
7:48:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, A WORKSHOP?
7:49:00PM YOUR NEXT WORKSHOP DAY AFTER JUNE --
7:49:04PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS THINKING ABOUT AUGUST.
7:49:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE AUGUST 29th.
7:49:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I WILL MOVE AUGUST 29th TO REQUEST
7:49:11PM A REPORT -- ANY STAFF, OUR CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE POLICE
7:49:17PM WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, AS WELL AS OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT OUR
7:49:24PM STAFF -- WHEN I CHATTED WITH THEM EARLIER TODAY THEY SAID
7:49:28PM EPC MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT,
7:49:31PM SWFWMD, ET CETERA.
7:49:32PM SO I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THEM IF THEY QUANTITY TO INVITE
7:49:35PM SOME OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO JOIN US AND PARTICIPATE IN THE
7:49:39PM BEGINNING OF AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SUBJECT ON RESILIENCY
7:49:44PM WITH THE GENERAL TOPIC OF WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY TO
7:49:48PM BE MORE RESILIENT, AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT CODE PROVISIONS WE
7:49:52PM MATE WANT TO START EXPLORING AND INVESTIGATING TO ADDRESS
7:49:58PM FUTURE RESILIENCY ISSUES.
7:50:01PM SO THAT'S THE MOTION.
7:50:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
7:50:06PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
7:50:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:50:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
7:50:10PM ANYTHING FURTHER?
7:50:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, SHOULD WE SET THAT FOR
7:50:15PM 9:00 A.M.?
7:50:18PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE.
7:50:18PM AND THE SECOND ITEM KIND OF WAS TRIGGERED TONIGHT BY THIS
7:50:25PM QUESTION OF CHAPTER 14 AND 3 A.M.
7:50:28PM AND JUST VERY BRIEFLY, IT DAWNED ON ME AS WE WENT THROUGH
7:50:36PM THIS EXERCISE THAT WE START OUT THAT THE STANDARD IS CHAPTER
7:50:42PM 14, WHICH REFERENCES 3 A.M.
7:50:44PM BUT THEN IF WE WANT TO STRAY FROM THE STANDARD WE HAVE TO
7:50:49PM BACK OFF OF THAT.
7:50:50PM WELL, IT'S OUR CODE.
7:50:52PM IT OUR CHAPTER.
7:50:54PM 14.
7:50:54PM WHY DON'T WE CONSIDER ADDRESSING, IN A WORKSHOP, WITH PLENTY
7:51:00PM OF STAFF AND COMMUNITY INPUT, MAKING OUR STANDARD PERHAPS
7:51:04PM MIDNIGHT, AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND STRAY FROM
7:51:09PM THAT STANDARD, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUSTIFY GOING FURTHER
7:51:13PM INTO THE LATE EVENING.
7:51:15PM AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS VERY OFTEN THESE ISSUES,
7:51:18PM ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY COME UP RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL,
7:51:23PM BUTTING UP AGAINST EACH ON THE, VERY OFTEN, THIS IS A KEY
7:51:26PM ISSUE.
7:51:28PM IT HAS TO GET ADDRESSED AND IT GETS ADDRESSED OVER AND OVER.
7:51:31PM BUT WE ARE ALWAYS, IN MY OPINION, SORT OF WORKING IN THE
7:51:33PM WRONG DIRECTION.
7:51:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS IT THE STANDARD BECAUSE OF STATE LAW?
7:51:44PM >> MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT IS WHY IT BECAME THE STANDARD.
7:51:47PM BUT I WOULD THINK AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UNTIL TALLAHASSEE
7:51:50PM PREEMPTS US, BUT AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY
7:51:53PM TO PUT IT IN OUR CODE MIDNIGHT, AND THEN IF WE COULD GO UP
7:51:59PM TO 3 A.M. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO EXHIBIT GOOD REASONS WHY
7:52:03PM THEY JUSTIFY GOING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
7:52:06PM THAT'S JUST MY IDEA.
7:52:07PM I WOULD LIKE TO WORKSHOP THAT, AND ANY OTHER AB ISSUES.
7:52:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSED DATE, SIR?
7:52:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD GIVE THEM A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME
7:52:18PM TO EXPLORE THAT.
7:52:19PM 8-29 SOUND FINE TO ME.
7:52:21PM DO YOU WANT TO SAY WHAT TIME?
7:52:24PM TEN?
7:52:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, COUNCIL SETS EVERYTHING AT 9:00.
7:52:28PM BUT THAT SEEMS TO WORK.
7:52:29PM THAT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED.
7:52:31PM I WOULD SUGGEST 9:00.
7:52:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: DID YOU GET THAT DOWN IN TERMS OF A SUMMARY
7:52:37PM OF THAT?
7:52:38PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN SUMMARIZE IT BETTER.
7:52:40PM LET ME RESTATE IT, THAT WE HOLD A WORKSHOP ON ALCOHOLIC
7:52:44PM BEVERAGE, AB ISSUES, SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED TO CHAPTER 14,
7:52:50PM SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED TO HOURS OF OPERATION.
7:52:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE] DO YOU WANT TO QUALIFY
7:52:57PM IT AS THE TOPIC TO CREATE -- WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, FRANKLY,
7:53:11PM I BELIEVE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MODEL, THE DIRECTION OF
7:53:16PM WHAT YOU WANT.
7:53:20PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, YOU HOW ABOUT GIVING US OPTIONS
7:53:22PM INCLUDING THE ST. PETE MODEL WHICH I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH,
7:53:25PM BUT GIVING US OPTIONS TO EXPLORE BACKING UP OFF OF 3 A.M. TO
7:53:34PM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
7:53:35PM AND LEAVING FLEXIBILITY TO GO FURTHER.
7:53:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER THE PROPOSAL FROM A
7:53:48PM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, TO MIDNIGHT WITH A BUSINESS LICENSE
7:53:52PM AFTER THAT, AND I THINK THE ROLL-OUT OF THE EXPLANATION
7:53:56PM QUICKLY CAUSED A LOT OF OPPOSITION.
7:53:59PM BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK IS FOR CLARIFICATION IS LOOK AT SOME
7:54:02PM COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT CHOICES, BESIDE JUST PUTTING IN ALL
7:54:08PM IN THE SITE PLAN.
7:54:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
7:54:10PM I ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
7:54:12PM I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO IDEAS.
7:54:14PM BUT I JUST THINK THAT IT WE SHOULD EXPLORE THIS EARLY, LIKE
7:54:21PM EARLY IN THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION, SO WE ARE NOT ALWAYS
7:54:24PM CHASING THE TRAIN ON THESE ISSUES, AND MAYBE KEEP SOME OF
7:54:27PM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE HAVING TO COME DOWN HERE AND EVEN
7:54:31PM BOUGHT BOTHER WITH OF THIS.
7:54:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD SECOND.
7:54:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: A WELL THOUGHT OUT MOTION.
7:54:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
7:54:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:54:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
7:54:40PM ANYTHING FURTHER?
7:54:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, THANK YOU.
7:54:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] YES, SIR.
7:54:48PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION FROM
7:54:49PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO THE FAMILY OF BARTHOLOMEW BANKS AND
7:54:56PM MRS. BANKS OF ST. JOHN'S PROGRESSIVE MINISTRY BAPTIST CHURCH
7:54:59PM WHO PASSED AWAY ON 5-19, 2019, AND PRESENT TO HIS FAMILY, AT
7:55:04PM HIS GOING-HOME CELEBRATION ON 5-25-19.
7:55:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
7:55:11PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:55:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:55:14PM ANY OPPOSED?
7:55:16PM AND IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN, IS THAT THIS SATURDAY?
7:55:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SATURDAY.
7:55:27PM AND I BELIEVE IT'S 11:00.
7:55:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A STATEMENT OF THE
7:55:34PM FUNERAL.
7:55:35PM BUT THANK YOU, SIR.
7:55:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION, NOTICE FROM TAMPA
7:55:45PM CITY COUNCIL, FAMILY OF GEORGE JAMES FOXX, BROTHER OF CLERK
7:55:50PM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, WHO PASSED AWAY ON 5-19, IS RECOGNIZED
7:55:57PM AS PROFESSIONAL OF THE YEAR, FOR CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE FIELD
7:55:59PM OF FINANCE, THE WHO'S WHO, WORLDWIDE PUBLICATION.
7:56:04PM THE DATE AND TIME OF THE PRESENTATION IS TO BE DETERMINED.
7:56:07PM >> SECOND.
7:56:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.
7:56:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
7:56:10PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:56:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:56:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
7:56:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE A MOTION TO DO A COMMENDATION TO
7:56:21PM NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTIST BROKERS, TAMPA CHAPTER, FOR
7:56:28PM THE INFLUENCING ROLE AND IMPLEMENTATION OF EQUAL RIGHTS FOR
7:56:28PM FAIR HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AT LOCAL AND STATE AND
7:56:30PM FEDERAL LEVELS.
7:56:31PM AS JUNE IS NATIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP MONTH, I WOULD LIKE THEM
7:56:36PM TO MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO IMPORTANCE OF INCREASING
7:56:37PM MINORITY HOME OWNERSHIP.
7:56:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
7:56:44PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:56:46PM ANY OPPOSED?
7:56:48PM ANY OTHER?
7:56:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAD A PUBLIC SERVANT LOST HIS LIFE LAST
7:56:53PM WEEKEND.
7:56:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
7:56:55PM THOMAS LEE DUNN, POSTHUMOUSLY. HE IS THE HARTLINE BUS
7:56:59PM DRIVER WHO PASSED AWAY ON MAY 19, 2019, IN THE UNFORTUNATE
7:57:02PM ACT OF SENSELESS VIOLENCE DURING THE COMMISSION OF HIS JOB
7:57:06PM DUTIES.
7:57:06PM HIS ACTS OF HEROISM AND BRAVELY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
7:57:10PM THIS COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED TO HIS FAMILY ON
7:57:13PM SATURDAY, 5-25, AT HIS MEMORIAL SERVICE.
7:57:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES; SECOND BY
7:57:17PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:57:18PM ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU, SIR.
7:57:20PM AND BY THE WAY, I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THIS. WHEN I FIRST
7:57:23PM GOT TO COUNCIL, I ALWAYS USED TO FEEL BAD ABOUT DOING TWO OR
7:57:27PM THREE MOTIONS BECAUSE OF TAKING UP PEOPLE'S TIME.
7:57:30PM WE ALL MAKE MOTIONS.
7:57:31PM THAT'S YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT.
7:57:33PM JUST SAYING THAT.
7:57:41PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
7:57:44PM COUNCILMAN CITRO?
7:57:49PM >> CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE LEGAL
7:57:51PM DEPARTMENT SET A WORKSHOP NOT MORE THAN TWO HOURS TO DISCUSS
7:57:56PM LAND USES AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP DAY OF JUNE 20, 1:30 IN THE
7:58:01PM AFTERNOON.
7:58:02PM THEY NEED TO TALK TO US.
7:58:03PM >> WHEN IS IT?
7:58:05PM >> JUNE 19th AT 1:30.
7:58:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND LET ME SAY IF WE HAVE A SECOND, I AM
7:58:17PM GOING TO GO BECAUSE THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW BEGIN
7:58:21PM THESE LAND USE HEARINGS, AND I INCLUDE MYSELF, I AM AN
7:58:24PM ATTORNEY, AND BEEN HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
7:58:30PM WHAT I DON'T KNOW COULD FILL UP THE ROMAN COLISEUM.
7:58:33PM SO I PLAN ON GOING.
7:58:34PM AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE -- ONE MISTAKE THAT WE MAKE COULD
7:58:38PM COST THE CITY A LOT IN ATTORNEYS' FEES.
7:58:44PM OKAY.
7:58:44PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
7:58:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:58:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
7:58:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
7:58:54PM THANK YOU.
7:58:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OTHER THING, AND NO MOTION ON THIS.
7:58:54PM BUT WHEN WE SEE THINGS HERE LIKE THE LOTS WE ARE USING FOR
7:59:02PM PARKING AREAS, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER, YOU SEE A NICE
7:59:04PM BUILDING AND A BEAUTIFUL ONE CAR HERE, ONE CAR THERE.
7:59:07PM THEY HAVE NO OTHER CARS. BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US WHAT TIME
7:59:09PM OF DAY. AS A POLICE OFFICER CRIMINOLOGIST CAN TELL YOU, IT
7:59:16PM HAS A DIFFERENT EFFECT ON YOU.
7:59:17PM I LIKE TO SEE THOSE SHOTS TAKEN, THE TIME QUOTED AT THE TIME
7:59:22PM THEY TOOK THE SHOT.
7:59:25PM >>CHAIRMAN VIERA: AND THAT'S NOT A MOTION.
7:59:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I PREVIOUS NOT TO MAKE IT TODAY.
7:59:40PM BUT I HAVE SEEN THIS FOR YEARS AND IT NEVER TELLS US THE
7:59:42PM DATE.
7:59:42PM AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ALCOHOL GOING AND THE PARKING
7:59:45PM RELATED TO IT BEING SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT
7:59:48PM LOT IS SOLD?
7:59:50PM THEY STILL HAVE A LICENSE. AND YOU'RE OUT ON THE STREET.
7:59:51PM I'LL PUT IT IN A MOTION LATER ON IN TIME.
7:59:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
7:59:59PM OKAY.
8:00:04PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
8:00:04PM AND IF I MAY PASS THE GAVEL.
8:00:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID THE 19th.
8:00:18PM IF I MADE A MISTAKE, IT'S ONE OTHER THAN I MADE BEFORE. THE
8:00:21PM WORKSHOP SET FOR JUNE THE 19th.
8:00:25PM THE 20th.
8:00:29PM I SAID THE 19th. I SAID IT AGAIN TO SEE IF I'D CATCH
8:00:30PM YOU, AND I DIDN'T CATCH YOU.
8:00:32PM BUT JUNE 20th.
8:00:35PM AT 1:30 P.M.
8:00:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE THE AMENDED MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
8:00:41PM MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:00:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:00:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:00:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT
8:00:47PM JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT MEETING, THAT IS
8:00:49PM YOUR REGULAR WORKSHOP DAY, AND IT IS AT 1:30.
8:00:53PM NO MORE THAN TWO HOURS, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE IN THIS
8:00:55PM ROOM.
8:00:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
8:00:58PM I AM ALSO GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A WORKSHOP.
8:01:00PM AND I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THIS.
8:01:02PM THE LAST WEEK IN WORKING WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION ON TWO
8:01:05PM ISSUES THAT I HADN'T SEEN A LOT ON, WHICH IS BUSCH, FOWLER,
8:01:11PM USF, I HAVE JUST BEEN DELIGHTED ON SOME OF THE INTEREST THAT
8:01:17PM WE HAVE SEEN AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN ON
8:01:19PM FOWLER, DISCUSSION THIS MORNING WITH MR. SHARP AND OTHERS,
8:01:28PM IT'S JUST WONDERFUL DEALING WITH THAT LATER ON, BUT BUSCH
8:01:31PM BOULEVARD, INDIVIDUALS ON BUSCH BOULEVARD, AND JUST THE
8:01:36PM LEVEL OF INTEREST.
8:01:38PM I AM ENCOURAGED BY IT.
8:01:40PM BUT I AM NAIVE, BUT I'M ENCOURAGED BY IT.
8:01:42PM SO I AM HAPPY FOR THAT OBVIOUSLY.
8:01:44PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS
8:01:47PM BUSCH BOULEVARD, IN PARTICULAR LAND USE TRANSPORTATION,
8:01:51PM CRIME, CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AT BUSCH BOULEVARD, TERRACE
8:01:56PM PARK AREA.
8:01:57PM I WAS GOING TO DO THAT ON AUGUST 29th.
8:02:01PM THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE RUSH.
8:02:03PM I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS BEFORE BECOMING
8:02:05PM CHAIR. HOW MANY ITEMS TYPICALLY DO WE HAVE ON A WORKSHOP?
8:02:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE 29TH OF AUGUST YOU HAVE
8:02:12PM COMMENDATION OF POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND A WORKSHOP
8:02:14PM TO DISCUSS ADJUSTING DOWNTOWN TAMPA --
8:02:19PM >> YES, LET DO IT ANOTHER DAY.
8:02:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE OTHER ONE YOU JUST ADDED WAS THE
8:02:22PM RESILIENCY.
8:02:23PM YOU HAVE ONE COMMENDATION AND TWO SUBJECTS ON CHAPTER 14.
8:02:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
8:02:29PM >> CHAPTER 14.
8:02:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL, ANY THOUGHTS ON ADDING THAT?
8:02:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID BEFORE, I THINK BUSCH BOULEVARD IS
8:02:42PM OUR GATEWAY TO THE WORLD.
8:02:45PM CAN WE ADD BEAUTIFICATION?
8:02:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THAT'S PART OF IT.
8:02:52PM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED
8:02:54PM YESTERDAY, A BIG ISSUE ON THE AGENDA THERE.
8:02:57PM SO IF I MAY, IT'S AUGUST 29th.
8:03:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, AUGUST 29th WE ALSO HAVE THE
8:03:05PM COMMENDATION, THE PARKING IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT,
8:03:08PM RESILIENCY, AND CHAPTER 14.
8:03:11PM YOU HAVE NOTHING RIGHT NOW SET ON THE SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP.
8:03:15PM COMMENDATIONS. POLICE OFFICER.
8:03:17PM FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
8:03:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND WE'LL DO IT THEN.
8:03:21PM THANK YOU, SIR.
8:03:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SET IT FOR SEPTEMBER THEN AT 9 A.M.?
8:03:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: AUGUST 29th, 9 A.M.
8:03:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
8:03:33PM CARLSON.
8:03:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:03:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST TO SECOND COUNCILMAN GUDES. I DIDN'T
8:03:50PM KNOW IT WAS SHIRLEY'S BROTHER. I HAD NO IDEA.
8:03:51PM GOD BLESS HER.
8:03:53PM OH, MR. DIMAIO.
8:03:56PM >> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.
8:03:59PM I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY AND IT'S LATE AND YOU WANT TO GET GOING.
8:03:59PM THE FIRST HEARING, THE FIRST GROUP, THE FIRST PERSON THAT
8:04:02PM SPOKE TONIGHT CONCERNING THE HOUSING SITUATION IN TAMPA, WE
8:04:06PM HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS GOING ON, AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, I
8:04:10PM SHOULD SAY, AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS BECAUSE
8:04:11PM -- I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT AT THE TIME, BUT I WANTED TO
8:04:16PM CHECK MY FACTS.
8:04:17PM BUT THE SADOWSKI TRUST FUND WAS SET UP WHEN I WORKED WITH
8:04:22PM GOVERNOR GRAHAM BACK IN THE 80s.
8:04:24PM SINCE THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN -- ABOUT A BILLION AND A HALF
8:04:28PM DOLLARS HAVE BEEN SUCKED OUT OF THAT TRUST FUND TO PAY FOR
8:04:30PM THINGS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
8:04:35PM IN THIS BUDGET, AND THE REASON I'S ASKING -- YOU DON'T HAVE
8:04:37PM TO DO IT BUT I AM SUGGESTING BECAUSE THE COUNTY COMMISSION
8:04:39PM IS SUGGESTING AS WELL, THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE HAD OF THE $400
8:04:44PM MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE, THE SENATE ASKED FOR 350 MILLION,
8:04:50PM THE GOVERNOR ASKED FOR 350 MILLION, AND THE HOUSE PASSED
8:04:54PM ZERO.
8:04:55PM SO 75 MILLION-DOLLARS, AND ALL THAT MONEY WAS EARMARKED TO
8:05:00PM GO TO THE PANHANDLE BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE.
8:05:03PM SO THAT MONEY NOW BECAUSE, OF THE RECOVERY FUND, FROM THE
8:05:05PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT MONEY IS NOW AVAILABLE.
8:05:07PM WHEN I SPOKE TO THE LADY JUST NOW THAT LEFT EARLIER, SHE
8:05:11PM SAID CITY OF TAMPA LOST $4 MILLION THAT THEY COULD HAVE HAD
8:05:15PM THAT COULD GO TOWARDS PAYING FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE,
8:05:18PM LOW-INTEREST LOANS AND SO FORTH.
8:05:20PM SO AS A COUNCIL, IT'S ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
8:05:24PM IT WILL BE ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
8:05:27PM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING, IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOMEBODY WOULD
8:05:31PM DO A MOTION ASKING THE GOVERNOR TO NOT SIGN THE BILL, TO
8:05:34PM BRING THESE GUYS BACK BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GETTING A PENNY
8:05:38PM ANYWAY, AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS ENTERTAINING THE SAME
8:05:41PM ISSUE.
8:05:41PM I WOULD ASK HIM TO VETO THAT APPROPRIATE AND COME BACK AND
8:05:44PM FULLY FUND THE SADOWSKI FUND SO PEOPLE LIVING IN TAMPA AND
8:05:49PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CAN HAVE MONEY TO DO WHAT THEY ARE
8:05:52PM SUPPOSED TO.
8:05:52PM AND I WAS HERE JUST A WEEK OR TWO AGO WHEN YOUR OWN HOUSING
8:05:56PM LADY CAME UP, AND I WAS AS STUNNED AS YOU WERE WHEN THEY
8:06:00PM WERE TRYING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THE STADIUM WAS
8:06:03PM COSTING 200 TO $250,000, AND I'M A SCHOOLTEACHER MAKING
8:06:08PM 35,000 AND CAN'T AFFORD A QUARTER-MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE.
8:06:13PM EVEN IN WEST TAMPA WHERE I LIVE, DOMAIN HOMES IS KNOCKING
8:06:15PM DOWN EVERY HOUSE THEY CAN FIND AND BUILDING 300, $400,000
8:06:18PM HOMES, WHICH IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
8:06:20PM WE HAVE A CRISIS IN THE CITY.
8:06:21PM I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS.
8:06:23PM BUT I KNOW THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH THE SADOWSKI FUND,
8:06:28PM IT'S A SIN THAT THEY SWEEP THIS MONEY OUT, THAT'S SUPPOSED
8:06:31PM TO COME BACK TO TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO HELP PEOPLE
8:06:32PM IN NEED, AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TALLAHASSEE DOES WRONG.
8:06:37PM BUT IT A CRISIS AND SOMETHING I WISH CITY COUNCIL WOULD
8:06:39PM CONSIDER, A MOTION TO ASK THE GOVERNOR TO VETO.
8:06:42PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE] IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME. I'M GOING TO
8:06:49PM GO ANY FURTHER, BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.
8:06:52PM SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ASK THE CHAIR TO WRITE A LETTER
8:06:55PM TO THE GOVERNOR EXPRESSING THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
8:06:57PM THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND THAT WE WISH THAT HE WOULD VETO
8:07:01PM THAT BILL.
8:07:02PM >> AND TO FULLY FUND THE SADOWSKI FUND.
8:07:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND NOW WHEN DOES THE GOVERNOR HAVE TO, TO
8:07:16PM VETO?
8:07:17PM >> THEY ARE SENDING THE BILLS OVER IN BATCHES. I DON'T KNOW
8:07:19PM IF THAT PARTICULAR THING IS UP, BUT I KNOW I SPOKE WITH
8:07:24PM COMMISSIONER KIMBERLY AND SHE SENT AN OFFICIAL LETTER
8:07:27PM YESTERDAY ASKING TO VETO THAT AND COME BACK AND FULLY FUND
8:07:30PM THE MONEY.
8:07:31PM AND CITY OF TAMPA LOST $4 MILLION --
8:07:37PM >> YES, IT'S A BIG DEAL.
8:07:38PM I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE A DRAFT OUT BY TOMORROW OR MONDAY.
8:07:41PM SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:07:43PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
8:07:50PM ALL IN FAVOR.
8:07:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:07:53PM THANK YOU.
8:07:53PM >> RECEIVE AND FILE.
8:07:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:07:58PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:08:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:08:02PM OPPOSED?
8:08:02PM THANK YOU.
8:08:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU ADJOURNED?
8:08:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE ADJOURNED.
8:08:08PM
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