TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
THURSDAY, JUNE 13, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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9:01:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
9:01:50AM IS NOW IN SESSION ON JUNE 13th, 2019.
9:01:59AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE SOMEONE THIS MORNING TO DO THE
9:02:02AM INVOCATION.
9:02:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STEP UP.
9:02:06AM WE HAVE KAMLESH C. DARJI, AN EXECUTIVE FOR A FAST-GROWING
9:02:10AM HOSPITALITY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, ALSO A COACH AND HAS A
9:02:14AM PODCAST CALLED "WINNING KARMA" WHICH FOCUSES ON SELF-MASTERY
9:02:20AM AND LIVING A BETTER, MORE FULFILLED LIFE.
9:02:21AM AND RASESH PATEL IS A PHARMACIST WITH MANY DIFFERENT
9:02:25AM ACCOLADES AND AFFILIATION INCLUDING THE INTERNATIONAL
9:02:27AM ACADEMY OF COMPOUNDING PHARMACISTS AND THE AMERICAN SOCIETY
9:02:30AM OF CONSULTANT PHARMACISTS.
9:02:31AM HE SITS ON MANY DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVE BOARDS AND MAKES
9:02:34AM FREQUENT CONGRESSIONAL VISITS AND IS A LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE
9:02:37AM FOR COMPOUNDING PHARMACIES, ALSO AN ACTIVE MEMBER AND SERVES
9:02:43AM IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
9:02:44AM SO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
9:02:46AM THE CITY OF TAMPA CELEBRATES ITS DIVERSITY AND LAST NIGHT IN
9:02:53AM THE MAYOR'S FORM OF THE ARTS, DIVERSITY IS ONE OF OUR
9:02:56AM STRENGTHS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING LARGEST COMMUNITIES
9:02:58AM IN OUR CITY IS THE INDIAN COMMUNITY, AND HINDU COMMUNITY, SO
9:03:05AM WANTED TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME SPEAK TO CELEBRATE THAT,
9:03:08AM AND ALSO THEY JUST TOLD ME THAT THEIR SPIRITUAL LEADER WILL
9:03:11AM BE HERE NEXT YEAR, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TRY TO ENGAGE HIM IN
9:03:15AM SOME WAY.
9:03:17AM SOUND LIKE HE'S GOING TO FILL AMALIE ARENA.
9:03:19AM THANK YOU AND WELCOME.
9:03:21AM >> IF WE COULD PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:03:25AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:03:30AM (CHANT)
9:03:32AM MAY WE BE PROTECTED TOGETHER.
9:03:50AM MAY HE NOTICE US BOTH TOGETHER.
9:03:52AM MAY HE NOURISH US BOTH TOGETHER.
9:03:53AM MAY WE WORK TOGETHER WITH GREAT IMAGING.
9:03:54AM MAY OUR STUDY BE VIGOROUS AND EFFECTIVE.
9:03:57AM MAY WE NOT QUARREL.
9:03:57AM AND LET THERE BE PEACE IN ME.
9:04:00AM LET THERE BE PEACE IN MY ENVIRONMENT.
9:04:02AM LET THERE BE PEACE IN THE FORCES THAT ACT ON ME.
9:04:05AM >> LEAD US FROM THE UNREAL TO THE REAL.
9:04:28AM LEAD US FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT.
9:04:29AM LEAD US FROM DEATH TO IMMORTALITY.
9:04:33AM O PEACE, PEACE, PEACE.
9:04:35AM (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE)
9:04:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE BE SEATED.
9:04:54AM ROLL CALL.
9:04:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
9:04:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:04:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:05:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
9:05:05AM COUNCILMAN -- (OFF MICROPHONE) VIERA WILL BE JOINING US IN
9:05:12AM JUST A FEW MINUTES.
9:05:13AM FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY WE HAVE A COMMUNITY REPORT
9:05:16AM FROM THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
9:05:19AM >> ABBEY AHERN HERE REPRESENTING THE CAC DOWNTOWN.
9:05:30AM LOTS OF GREAT UPDATES FOR YOU.
9:05:32AM WE HAVE LOCAL PROJECTS WITH CRANES IN THE AIR OR ON THEIR
9:05:37AM WAY HERE. BUT SOME OF THE MAJOR THINGS. HERMAN MATTHEWS
9:05:39AM HAS GONE THROUGH THEIR PARK DESIGN; HE'S GOT TWO SUBMITTALS
9:05:45AM THAT LOOK GREAT, ARE TWEAKING IT CURRENTLY. THAT WILL BE
9:05:47AM UNDERWAY SOON.
9:05:48AM AMERICAN LAND VENTURES, A ROADWAY AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE THE
9:05:55AM GERMAN LIBRARY, PERMITTING IS UNDERWAY, WILL START MID JULY.
9:06:02AM THE JW MARRIOTT IS ON THE 19th STORY OF CONSTRUCTION.
9:06:11AM THE MODERA IS IN PERMITTING FOR THEIR PROJECT.
9:06:14AM DOMINO'S PIZZA IS RELOCATING TO FRANKLIN TO OPEN UP SOME
9:06:31AM ALTERNATIVE PARKING FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT IS TAKING
9:06:35AM PLACE.
9:06:35AM AND THERE'S A PROPOSED TOWER OF 34 STORIES AT ASHLEY AND
9:06:41AM TWIGGS, A SMALL PARCEL BUT GOOD USE NEAR THE RIVER.
9:06:46AM AND WATERS STREET HAS COMPLETED THE SECOND PHASE OF THEIR --
9:06:53AM THE SECOND PHASE OF THE FIRST PHASE.
9:06:59AM AND I BROUGHT A LITTLE BOOK THAT THEY HANDED OUT AT THE LAST
9:07:04AM MEETING THAT I CAN PASS OUT IF YOU LIKE.
9:07:06AM LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT, LOTS OF FUN THINGS.
9:07:08AM MAYOR'S FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION. THE SCOOTERS GETTING
9:07:09AM MIXED REVIEWS.
9:07:16AM OVERALL, GREAT FOR OUR CITY, AND MOVING FORWARD AT THE CAC
9:07:21AM TO CONTINUE WITH HELPING BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND
9:07:25AM STILL HAVE THE GRANTS PROGRAM, AND THE FACADE PROGRAM THAT'S
9:07:29AM COMING ABOUT, AND LAST YEAR, WERE ABLE TO GET THE BUSINESS
9:07:39AM THAT STARTS TO INCUBATE THE TECH COMPANIES EXPANDING IN
9:07:43AM TAMPA, AND I HAVE THINGS FROM THEM AS WELL IF YOU LIKE ANY
9:07:51AM MORE INFORMATION.
9:07:52AM HOPING TO WRAP UP IN THE END OF SUMMER, EARLY FALL.
9:08:00AM THANK YOU.
9:08:01AM ANY QUESTIONS?
9:08:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THIS.
9:08:08AM JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND NEW BACK TO THE BOARD.
9:08:16AM SO I TAKE IT YOU DO LIVE OR WORK DOWNTOWN?
9:08:20AM >> MY OFFICE IS IN DOWNTOWN.
9:08:24AM I HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN DOWNTOWN.
9:08:30AM AND I LIVE NEXT TO ARMATURE WORKS.
9:08:35AM I LIVE HERE.
9:08:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR
9:08:38AM BOARD?
9:08:39AM WHAT WOULD THE MIX BE IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS?
9:08:41AM AND IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENCY VERSUS, YOU KNOW,
9:08:45AM BUSINESS?
9:08:47AM >> I DON'T KNOW OF A PERCENTAGE BASIS. WE HAVE A GOOD MIX
9:08:50AM OF BOTH.
9:08:53AM FOUR MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND SOME ARE IN THE
9:08:58AM PLANNING-TYPE, THEY ARE MAKING GREAT BUSINESS CHOICES, AND
9:09:06AM THEN WE HAVE TWO RESIDENTS, AND OWNERSHIP.
9:09:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT'S IT LIKE FOR
9:09:21AM FOLKS DOWNTOWN?
9:09:22AM WHAT ARE THEY SAYING POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE?
9:09:24AM IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU MENTION THE SCOOTERS BECAUSE WE
9:09:26AM ARE GETTING A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE SCOOTERS.
9:09:28AM BUT JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOW IS THE RESIDENTIAL
9:09:32AM EXPERIENCE?
9:09:34AM >> I THINK THE RESIDENTIAL FOLKS ARE WANTING AND DEMANDING
9:09:40AM MORE OPPORTUNITIES OF THE SCOOTERS, GETTING AROUND AND NOT
9:09:48AM HAVE TO USE CARS AND GARAGES, THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR
9:09:52AM RESTAURANTS AND EATING, AND THEY LIKE MORE CURB APPEALS, AND
9:10:03AM THEY ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE MASSEY PARK.
9:10:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN I SAW THAT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET,
9:10:15AM IT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.
9:10:18AM JUST IN REGARD TO -- I KNOW WHEN WE CLOSED IT, WE WERE
9:10:21AM HAVING A LOT OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, HOMELESS ISSUES
9:10:26AM IN MASSEY PARK, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
9:10:30AM THEY CLOSED IT AND FENCED IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
9:10:34AM SO WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT PARK? AND I GUESS MY LAST
9:10:41AM QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW IS IT, THE HOMELESS ISSUE IS, FROM
9:10:45AM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?
9:10:47AM IS IT ON THE RISE OR ON THE DECLINE?
9:10:49AM >> I THINK ON THE DECLINE, WITH THE ACTIVATION OF LOT OF --
9:10:51AM IN THE AREA AND THE REDEVELOPMENT AT 915, AND LA-ABUELA AND
9:11:03AM FORMER FLY-BY, AND ALL OF THE ACTIVITY NOW, PEOPLE STAYING
9:11:04AM AT THE 2ND STREET CORRIDOR, AND MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY,
9:11:08AM AND ACTIVATING THE PARK AND USING IT FOR THINGS LIKE DOG
9:11:14AM PARKS, DOG AREAS, AND EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, AND IT'S UTILIZED,
9:11:19AM NOT JUST FOR BENCHES.
9:11:25AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT GOING TO BE FENCED AND HAVE HOURS
9:11:27AM OF OPERATION?
9:11:28AM >> IT WILL BE THE PARK COMES AROUND FOR ALL THE PARKS.
9:11:33AM IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT FENCED, AND AFTER HOURS.
9:11:44AM THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS FENCED FOR THE DOG AREAS AND OTHER
9:11:48AM AREAS THAT WILL BE MORE INVITING.
9:11:51AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:11:53AM I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME AT THE BEGINNING.
9:11:56AM >> I'M ABBEY AHERN.
9:12:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
9:12:02AM WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SIT IN ON YOUR MEETING
9:12:05AM THE OTHER NIGHT.
9:12:06AM AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN GOING AROUND TO OUR DIFFERENT
9:12:10AM CRAs THAT ARE IN MY DISTRICT.
9:12:11AM MOST OF THEM ARE ALL IN MY DISTRICT, AND I WAS ABLE TO TAKE
9:12:15AM AWAY SOME INFORMATION THE OTHER NIGHT AND ABLE TO PASS THAT
9:12:18AM ON TO ANOTHER CRA.
9:12:19AM AND I THINK INFORMATION IS GOOD.
9:12:25AM BUT I WANT TO ASK MR. MCDONAUGH SINCE HE'S HERE IN THE
9:12:30AM AUDIENCE, IS THERE A QUARTERLY MEETING WITH ALL THE CRA
9:12:33AM MEETING, THE BOARDS, TO BRAINSTORM ABOUT IDEAS, AND WHAT'S
9:12:37AM GOING ON IN DIFFERENT AREAS, MAYBE FACILITATE NEW PROGRESS
9:12:41AM AND NEW GROWTH IN THOSE CRAs?
9:12:44AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AS A MATTER OF FACT, SEVERAL TIMES, ON AN
9:12:46AM AD HOC BASIS.
9:12:47AM IT WAS DECIDED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THEY DECIDED THEY WOULD
9:12:52AM LIKE TO DO THAT, SHARE IDEAS.
9:12:54AM SO FROM TIME TO TIME THEY DO THAT.
9:12:55AM AND I THINK THE LAST MEETING THEY HAD WAS IN YBOR, PROBABLY
9:12:59AM FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO.
9:13:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO.
9:13:05AM I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, AND I WAS SITTING ON A CRA BOARD AROUND
9:13:08AM THAT TIME AND NEVER HEARD ABOUT THAT TYPE OF MEETING.
9:13:11AM MAYBE IT'S NOT ADVERTISED PROPERLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
9:13:18AM THAT HAPPEN ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS.
9:13:20AM I THINK THE MORE INFORMATION WE GET, THE MORE POWERFUL YOU
9:13:24AM ARE.
9:13:25AM SO I DON'T RECALL IT.
9:13:28AM I DON'T RECALL EVER GOING TO A MEETING WITH OTHER CRAs.
9:13:31AM SO IF YOU CAN GET ME THE MINUTES, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
9:13:37AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
9:13:41AM AGAIN, I HAVE SEEN IT ON THE DIFFERENT CRAs, ON A
9:13:44AM VOLUNTEER BASIS.
9:13:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: VOLUNTEER.
9:13:47AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CORRECT.
9:13:49AM AGAIN, THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS, AND I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO
9:13:51AM ATTEND MEETINGS WITH OTHER CRAs.
9:13:54AM THERE ARE SUNSHINE ISSUES AS WELL.
9:14:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL DISCUSS THAT HOW IT'S DONE IN THE
9:14:07AM SUNSHINE AND HOW THEY CAN SHARE IDEAS.
9:14:12AM I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A TOTAL SUNSHINE, BUT I'LL GET
9:14:15AM WITH HIM IN THE FUTURE AND FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND MAKE
9:14:19AM SURE INFORMATION IS VIABLE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:14:22AM THANK YOU.
9:14:22AM >> I THINK, ALSO, HE OFTEN BRINGS THAT KNOWLEDGE, AND TO
9:14:33AM EACH OF THE GROUPS AND TO OUR MEETING.
9:14:35AM SO IT'S ONE THING THAT HAPPENS FOR ONE OF THE GROUPS.
9:14:38AM USUALLY SHARED WITH OTHERS AND VICE VERSA.
9:14:47AM AND DO THAT TOGETHER.
9:14:50AM AND HAPPEN A LITTLE FASTER.
9:14:55AM MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN OTHER CRAs, CAC AREAS.
9:15:00AM ALREADY STREAMLINED AND READY TO GO.
9:15:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. AHERN.
9:15:14AM NEXT UP IS BOB MCDONAUGH.
9:15:16AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
9:15:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THE PRELIMINARY TAX ROLLS AND
9:15:20AM THE INCREASES FROM EACH OF THE CRAs.
9:15:31AM AGAIN, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY TAX ROLL.
9:15:35AM IT WOULD BE FINALIZED LATER THIS SUMMER.
9:15:38AM AVERAGE INCREASE IS 18.8%.
9:15:49AM YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEM HAVE VERY LARGE INCREASES.
9:15:51AM CENTRAL PARK OBVIOUSLY HAS A VERY ROBUST ONE.
9:15:54AM EAST TAMPA IS UP 38%.
9:15:56AM TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT 125%.
9:16:00AM THE CITY AS A WHOLE HAS ABOUT A 9% INCREASE IN ITS TAX
9:16:06AM ROLLS.
9:16:07AM I WOULD VENTURE BASED ON THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES THAT
9:16:11AM THE CRAs ARE FARING BETTER THAN THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
9:16:16AM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE CRAs
9:16:19AM AND SOME OF THE ACTION THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
9:16:21AM CENTRAL PARK, AGAIN, YOU SEE A GREAT JUMP IN VALUES.
9:16:24AM AGAIN, THIS IS PRELIMINARY NUMBER.
9:16:28AM THEY HAVE CHALLENGED IT IN THE PAST BASED UPON THE AMOUNT OF
9:16:31AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S IN THERE.
9:16:33AM SO THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
9:16:36AM WE HAD A GROUP MEETING FINALLY OF INTERESTED PARTIES.
9:16:41AM COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE LATEST MEETING.
9:16:45AM AND THERE'S GREAT INTEREST RIGHT NOW IN THE BUILDING PLANS
9:16:49AM WITHIN ENCORE SO WE MIGHT SEE SOME DEVELOPMENT THERE IN THE
9:16:52AM NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE.
9:16:54AM AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS SEEING A LOT OF WORK FROM THE
9:16:56AM STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN IN THE WORKS, THE CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
9:17:00AM PLAN IS BEING WORKED ON NOW.
9:17:02AM THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE ON EACH OF THE STREETS WHICH WILL
9:17:05AM FINISH THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, AND THE MADISON STREET
9:17:09AM PARK, WHICH IS THE LAST OF THE THREE PARKS, WHICH WAS
9:17:12AM ENVISIONED IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
9:17:14AM THE NEW HOTEL ON THE MERIDIAN OPENS IN JULY AND I AM SURE
9:17:19AM YOU WILL BE RECEIVING IF YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN INVITATION
9:17:21AM TO THE GRAND OPENING THERE.
9:17:24AM DOWNTOWN, ABBEY JUST GAVE A VERY THOROUGH REPORT ON THAT.
9:17:28AM DREW PARK TODAY, YOU WILL HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR LINEAL PARK,
9:17:33AM THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE OF
9:17:35AM INTEREST, BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS RAISED AT ONE OF YOUR
9:17:38AM PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT WMBE PARTICIPATION.
9:17:41AM AND THE PRIMARY CONTRACTOR ON THIS IS THE WMBE CONTRACTOR.
9:17:47AM AND WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS THAT WILL BE ASKING TO BE
9:17:49AM APPROVED TODAY FOR DREW PARK.
9:17:52AM IN EAST TAMPA, STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, ON EACH OF THE ISSUES
9:17:56AM THIS WEEK, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PUBLICIZED, VIA CITY
9:18:01AM NEWSLETTERS AS WELL, AND ON THE PUBLIC, SO WE GET AS MUCH
9:18:04AM RESPONSE AS WE CAN.
9:18:06AM AS YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER CRAs RECENTLY HAD STRATEGIC
9:18:10AM PLAN WORKSHOPS, AND THEY WERE VERY WELL ATTENDED. WE ARE
9:18:14AM GOING TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN
9:18:16AM EAST TAMPA THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING
9:18:19AM ON SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
9:18:22AM UPDATE AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN REFLECTS WHAT THEY WANT TO
9:18:24AM SEEP IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
9:18:27AM WE HAVE 26 PROPERTIES GOING OUT FOR RFP WILL BE HAPPENING
9:18:32AM THIS MONTH.
9:18:33AM THE EAST TAMPA CRA HAS DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO LOAD
9:18:37AM THEIR TIF FUNDING WITH THE CO2 HOUSING DEPARTMENT FOR DOWN
9:18:41AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA.
9:18:44AM AND SO THAT PROGRAM WILL BE TAKING OFF AS PART OF THE 2020
9:18:48AM BUDGET.
9:18:49AM AGAIN ALL OF THE CRAs, AND THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THE BOARD
9:18:52AM SITTING AS CITY COUNCIL, EXPRESSED INTEREST IN PUMPING UP
9:18:56AM OUR HOUSING CORE FOLKS THAT NEED A LITTLE ASSISTANCE WITH
9:19:00AM THAT, AND EAST TAMPA CRA IS ONE OF THE GROUPS.
9:19:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REPORT?
9:19:10AM ANY QUESTIONS?
9:19:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL WAIT FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
9:19:13AM >> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THAT PROGRAM IS UP FOR EAST TAMPA
9:19:20AM HOUSING?
9:19:22AM >> IN THE 2020 BUDGET, I BELIEVE $400,000 IS BEING ALLOCATED
9:19:26AM FOR DOWNTOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, AND THAT WAS ROUGHLY
9:19:29AM $15,000.
9:19:30AM AND PREREQUISITE WITH THAT, SAME AS OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT
9:19:35AM WITH OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, IS THAT FOLKS WHO ARE
9:19:38AM INTERESTED IN THAT PROGRAM WILL NEED TO GO THROUGH A HOUSING
9:19:41AM EDUCATION PROGRAM.
9:19:43AM SO, YOU KNOW, BUYING A HOUSE IS PART OF IT BUT UNDERSTANDING
9:19:47AM REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHARGES THAT COME
9:19:49AM UP.
9:19:50AM SO BY THE TIME THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED THEN AND GET THIS
9:19:53AM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WE HAVE GOT SOME EDUCATIONAL
9:19:55AM ASSISTANCE TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IN BUYING A HOUSE.
9:19:58AM THERE'S ALSO A POST PURCHASE PROGRAM AS WELL TO CONTINUE
9:20:02AM THAT EDUCATION PROCESS.
9:20:03AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, BOB.
9:20:13AM THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO.
9:20:14AM JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
9:20:16AM I WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET BOOK THAT'S DATED, I GUESS,
9:20:25AM THIS YEAR FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2019.
9:20:30AM AND JUST HAD SOME SORT OF QUESTIONS TO GET A LITTLE
9:20:35AM HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT IT PROSPECTIVELY
9:20:42AM IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE NEXT
9:20:44AM BUDGET.
9:20:45AM AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, I KNOW IN THE DOWNTOWN BUDGET, AND
9:20:51AM I THINK I SAW PERHAPS IN THE YBOR BUDGETS, THERE'S SOME
9:20:54AM TRANSPORTATION EXPENSES.
9:20:58AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME?
9:21:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TRANSPORTATION EXPENSES ESPECIALLY AS
9:21:04AM RELATED TO THE STREETCAR AND DOWNTOWN STREETCAR, I THINK
9:21:06AM SHOWING ABOUT 150,000.
9:21:08AM I WAS ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT BECAUSE I'M SUPPORTIVE
9:21:11AM OF THE STREETCAR.
9:21:13AM AND ALSO IT SHOWS FOR THE DOWNTOWN SHUTTLE SERVICE OF
9:21:17AM 450,000.
9:21:18AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: RIGHT.
9:21:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH AGAIN I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO GET
9:21:23AM PEOPLE AROUND DOWNTOWN AND THAT SORT OF THING.
9:21:26AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 450, AND WE CAN EXPLORE.
9:21:31AM THAT BUT NOW I AM WONDERING SINCE THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE
9:21:34AM SOURCE OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDS, WILL THE CRA BE EXPECTED TO
9:21:41AM CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE STREETCAR, BECAUSE WOULD BE
9:21:49AM OFFERED TRANSPORTATION MONEY, THAT'S A BIG POT OF MONEY AND
9:21:53AM PART OF IT I THINK IS FOR SEPARATION AND EXPANSION OF THE
9:21:55AM STREETCAR.
9:21:57AM LIKEWISE, PERHAPS IN THE, QUOTE, CITY BUDGET, NOT CRA
9:22:04AM BUDGET, THERE MIGHT BE TRANSPORTATION MONEY FOR THE SHUTTLE
9:22:08AM SERVICE, ET CETERA.
9:22:09AM SO I'M JUST WONDERING, OBVIOUSLY, NOT LOOKING AT THIS
9:22:14AM REGRESSIVELY BUT LOOKING AT IT PROSPECTIVELY, I'M SURE YOU
9:22:18AM HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS.
9:22:20AM SO WHERE ARE WE HEADED? THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
9:22:23AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
9:22:25AM AND THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT HAS NOT BEEN RAISED YET, BECAUSE
9:22:28AM AGAIN THERE'S STILL A LEGAL BATTLE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S
9:22:33AM CONSTITUTIONALLY CORRECT AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT MONEY CAN
9:22:35AM BE TAXED.
9:22:36AM SO THAT QUESTION IS THERE, AND BUDGETED FORWARD.
9:22:41AM ON THE STREETCAR THAT HAPPENS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS SO WE DO
9:22:44AM NOT HAVE A LONG -- THE CRA DOES NOT HAVE A LONG-TERM
9:22:48AM OBLIGATION.
9:22:49AM THE CRA BASIS DECIDES AND THE CACs DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT
9:22:54AM THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE STREETCAR.
9:22:55AM SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
9:22:58AM AGAIN, THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE EXPANSION OF THE
9:23:00AM STREETCAR.
9:23:01AM SO THAT QUESTION HAS NOT BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED YET BECAUSE
9:23:06AM WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE FUND WILL BE AVAILABLE AND HOW THEY
9:23:09AM WILL BE APPORTIONED.
9:23:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PERSONALLY, LIKE I SAID, I'M SUPPORTIVE
9:23:14AM OF THE STREETCAR.
9:23:17AM BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE STREETCAR JUST LIKE WE
9:23:20AM HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.
9:23:23AM I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF LEAVING IT IN THE NEXT BUDGET IF
9:23:27AM THERE'S STILL UNRESOLVED QUESTIONS BUT PERHAPS NOT WRITING
9:23:30AM THE CHECK.
9:23:31AM JUST TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.
9:23:33AM AND THEN IF THEY DON'T NEED IT, BECAUSE PERHAPS THE LEGAL
9:23:39AM ISSUES ARE RESOLVED IN FAVOR OF HART, ET CETERA, THEN WE
9:23:43AM DON'T HAVE TO CUT THE CHECK AND WE CAN JUST MODIFY THE
9:23:46AM BUDGET AND BACK IT OUT.
9:23:48AM MAYBE THAT'S A WAY TO ADDRESS IT.
9:23:49AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I AGREE.
9:23:53AM AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST YEAR,
9:23:55AM IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE'S A MUCH MORE ROBUST SERVICE THAN
9:23:58AM THEY WERE OFFERING, BECAUSE THEY GOT A LOT OF MONEY FROM
9:24:01AM FDOT FOR MORE ENHANCED SERVICE.
9:24:03AM AND THE SAME WITH THE DOWNTOWNER.
9:24:05AM THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT WITH THAT WAS THE CRA WAS GOING TO BE
9:24:09AM SUPPORTIVE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THEN IT WAS GOING TO
9:24:12AM BECOME SOMEWHAT SELF-SUFFICIENT THROUGH ADVERTISING AND
9:24:15AM OTHER FEES.
9:24:16AM SO THAT CONTRIBUTION WAS LOOKED AT AND BEING SUNSETTED AT
9:24:21AM SOME POINT AS WELL.
9:24:22AM AND THAT'S LOOKED AT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS WELL.
9:24:25AM BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
9:24:26AM THIS IS A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR THE FIRST TIME, I MEAN, AS
9:24:29AM LONG AS I HAVE LIVED IN THIS CITY, THAT THERE WILL ACTUALLY
9:24:32AM BE REAL MONEY APPORTIONED TOWARDS TRANSPORTATION
9:24:35AM ALTERNATIVES.
9:24:36AM AND WE'LL FIND OUT.
9:24:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
9:24:40AM AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION I ANY THIS IS MOSTLY YBOR, I DON'T
9:24:49AM KNOW IF I SAW IT ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT PARKING GARAGE UPGRADES
9:24:53AM IN THE PAST BUDGET.
9:24:54AM IT WASN'T A HUGE AMOUNT.
9:24:56AM I THINK I CAME ACROSS ONE, YBOR CITY ONE FOR $40,000.
9:25:00AM BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ARE
9:25:04AM ALL UNDER THE NOTION THAT THE PARKING DEPARTMENT IS ITS OWN
9:25:07AM ENTITY, ENTERPRISE FUND, I BELIEVE, AND SO I GUESS
9:25:12AM HISTORICALLY I'M WONDERING WHY THE CRA LOOKS LIKE FOR THE
9:25:18AM PAST FOUR YEARS HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTING $50,000, 50,000,
9:25:24AM 40,000, 20,000, PARKING GARAGE UPGRADES.
9:25:28AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I THINK I ANSWERED THIS AT A PREVIOUS
9:25:31AM MEETING, BUT THE YBOR GARAGE, YBOR CENTRO, IS THE ONLY
9:25:36AM GARAGE IN THE CITY THAT HAS PUBLIC RESTROOMS.
9:25:38AM THEY WERE PUT IN THERE BY THE REQUEST OF THE YCDC, SO THE
9:25:42AM MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND DAILY CLEANING OF THAT IS PAID
9:25:45AM FOR THROUGH THE YCDC, AND ALSO IS YBOR WANTED A HIGHER LEVEL
9:25:51AM OF SECURITY IN THE GARAGE AND FOR LONGER THAN THE NORMAL
9:25:54AM PARKING AGREEMENT THAT THE PARKING WOULD DO.
9:25:57AM SO THESE ABOVE-NORMAL ENHANCEMENTS WERE AGREED UPON TO BE
9:26:01AM PAID FOR BY YBOR.
9:26:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND AS YOU SAID, THERE'S AN ONGOING --
9:26:07AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:26:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT?
9:26:10AM >> IT'S DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, YES.
9:26:12AM IT WAS AGREED UPON.
9:26:13AM WELL, THE SECURITY COULD CHANGE TOMORROW.
9:26:17AM IF YBOR SAID, WELL, WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE NORMAL LEVEL OF
9:26:20AM SECURITY THAT THE CITY PROVIDES FOR ALL OF THE GARAGE.
9:26:23AM THAT MONEY COULD BE BACKED OUT.
9:26:24AM BUT AGAIN, PEOPLE WANT EXTRA SECURITY THERE TILL 3:00 OR
9:26:29AM 4:00 IN THE MORNING WITH SOME OF THE CLUBS CLOSE.
9:26:33AM NOW THE RESTROOMS THAT IS AN ONGOING OBLIGATION BECAUSE THAT
9:26:36AM WAS DONE AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT TO BUILD A GARAGE.
9:26:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S JUST A MAINTENANCE -- THAT'S JUST
9:26:42AM MAINTENANCE LIKE A CLEANING CREW?
9:26:44AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CLEANING AND REPAIRS, BECAUSE THERE ARE A
9:26:47AM FAIR AMOUNT OF REPAIRS THAT ARE NECESSITIED IN THAT GARAGE.
9:26:50AM THERE'S MORE VANDALISM IN THAT GARAGE, RESTROOM AND SOME
9:26:55AM OTHER THINGS.
9:27:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MCDONAUGH, THIS WAS AN OPTION WORKED OUT
9:27:02AM BETWEEN THE CITY AND YCDC YEARS AGO.
9:27:07AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:27:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BECAUSE YBOR CITY WANTED TO REMOVE THE
9:27:11AM PARKING METERS.
9:27:12AM SO NOW YBOR CITY HAD TWO-HOUR PARKING FOR FREE AND THIS WAS
9:27:16AM AN OPTION BETWEEN YBOR CITY, YCDC AND THE PARKING DIVISION,
9:27:20AM THAT YCDC HELPS PAY THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARKING GARAGE?
9:27:25AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER CAVEATS, WAS
9:27:28AM THAT THE YCDC WANTED TO HAVE PUBLIC RESTROOMS IN THE GARAGE,
9:27:32AM WHICH WOULD BE OPEN FOR EXTENDED HOURS.
9:27:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IT WAS AN OPTION BASICALLY FOR US TO SAY
9:27:37AM COME DOWN TO YBOR CITY, FREE TWO HOUR PARKING, AND --
9:27:44AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: RIGHT, THESE ARE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE WISH
9:27:47AM TO SEE IN THIS CRA DISTRICT AND WE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR
9:27:49AM THEM.
9:27:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:27:51AM PLEASE PROCEED, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:27:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S AN ONGOING CONTRACTUAL
9:27:59AM OBLIGATION?
9:28:02AM >> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE.
9:28:03AM I KNOW IT WAS IN WRITING BUT I KNOW THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT.
9:28:06AM AND I'LL FIND IT, THAT THEY AGREED TO BUILD RESTROOMS,
9:28:10AM SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST.
9:28:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND YOU SAID YOU HAD GIVEN THAT BEFORE,
9:28:16AM AND IT'S THE ONLY TIME THREE OF US HAVE BEEN HERE IN RECENT
9:28:20AM YEARS.
9:28:21AM THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR TODAY -- AND THIS RELATES
9:28:24AM ACTUALLY TO MS. BURTON WHO I'M GLAD TO SEE JOINS US TODAY.
9:28:32AM SHE MENTIONED ABOUT MILLS OF DOLLARS GOING TO STRATEGIC
9:28:36AM PARTNERS, SPP, AND OF COURSE WE READ THIS IN THE PAPER, AND
9:28:44AM THAT SORT OF THING.
9:28:45AM I SEE ON THE FY 19 BUDGET FOR DOWNTOWN, IT SPECIFICALLY
9:28:52AM REFERENCES A $6 MILLION TRANSFER TO STRATEGIC PROPERTY
9:28:56AM PARTNERS.
9:28:57AM SO JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S EDIFICATION, AND AGAIN I KNOW YOU
9:29:04AM HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH THE PRIOR BOARD, NOT THIS BOARD,
9:29:08AM WHY DON'T YOU TELL US A LITTLE OF THAT HISTORY, WHAT THAT $6
9:29:11AM MILLION IS FOR, WHAT IT'S ABOUT, WILL IT COME BACK,
9:29:15AM ET CETERA, ET CETERA?
9:29:16AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CERTAINLY.
9:29:18AM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ENTERED INTO A
9:29:20AM JOINT AGREEMENT WITH STRATEGIC PROPERTY PARTNERS.
9:29:24AM THEY THINK -- THEY SAID TO THE CITY WE ARE GETTING READY TO
9:29:29AM BUILD APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION-DOLLAR WORTH OF REAL ESTATE
9:29:32AM DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN.
9:29:33AM WE HAVE A CONCERN THAT THE WATER AND SEWER AND ROAD NETWORK
9:29:37AM IS NOT UP TO SNUFF?
9:29:39AM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE THINGS UPGRADED.
9:29:45AM AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME AS
9:29:48AM THEY ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION, SO THE CITY IS NOT TEARING UP
9:29:51AM ROADS AFTER THEY BUILD THEIR BUILDINGS.
9:29:54AM SO WE AGREED THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WOULD FUND UP TO
9:29:59AM $50 MILLION FOR PUBLIC STRUCTURE.
9:30:03AM THAT'S WATER, SEWER, STORMWATER, ROADS, AND SIDEWALKS.
9:30:08AM PUBLIC FACILITIES.
9:30:10AM NOTHING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
9:30:13AM GIVING AN EXAMPLE THEY HAVE A CENTRAL COOLING PLAN THAT BE
9:30:17AM IS DONE TO COOL AIR BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF HAVING SEPARATE
9:30:21AM CHILLERS.
9:30:22AM WHEN THOSE PIPES WERE PUT IN, THEY WERE PUT IN AT SPP'S
9:30:27AM EXPENSE, NOT OF THE CITY'S, NOT THE COUNTY'S.
9:30:31AM THAT'S NON-REIMBURSABLE.
9:30:32AM SO ANYTHING BEING DONE, THEY HAVE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY.
9:30:34AM WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE EXAMINING THE PLANS AND THE
9:30:37AM CONTRACT WORK, AND IT'S BEING PAID BACK AS A REIMBURSABLE.
9:30:41AM THEY SPEND IT.
9:30:42AM THEY DO THE WORK.
9:30:43AM AND WE REIMBURSE THEM.
9:30:47AM WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY
9:30:49AM WHERE SOMEBODY IS BUILDING SOMETHING, AND AS LONG AS THEY
9:30:51AM ARE THERE, WE HAVE THEM DO SOME WATER WORK OR SEWER WORK OR
9:30:54AM SIDEWALK WORK AND REIMBURSE THEM.
9:30:56AM THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAT WAY.
9:30:59AM IT'S NOT TOO PEOPLE MOBILIZING, IT'S NOT TOO OVERHEAD, IT'S
9:31:05AM TWO CONTRACTORS, AND MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY THE TIMING WORKS
9:31:07AM OUT.
9:31:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MENTIONED $50 MILLION TOTAL.
9:31:12AM BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY?
9:31:15AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: NO, 50 MILLION EACH WAS THE CEILING.
9:31:18AM IT LOOKS AS IF NOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ACHIEVED, MAYBE
9:31:21AM FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 50, $51 MILLION.
9:31:25AM THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
9:31:29AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S 25-ISH EACH?
9:31:32AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CORRECT.
9:31:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LOOKING AT THE $6 MILLION HERE IN THE FY
9:31:40AM 19 BUDGET, IS THE CITY CONTRIBUTING AS WELL?
9:31:45AM OR IS THIS JUST A CRA CONTRIBUTION?
9:31:49AM >> NO, IT'S THE CRA.
9:31:51AM THAT'S THE AGREEMENT.
9:31:52AM AGAIN IT'S PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:31:53AM SO IT'S THE CRA THAT'S PAYING FOR IT.
9:31:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S GOING TO GO ON, LET'S SAY,
9:31:59AM ARGUABLY FOR SIX TOTAL?
9:32:01AM IS THIS THE FIRST YEAR?
9:32:03AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THE SECOND YEAR.
9:32:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ARGUABLY FOR A TOTAL OF, WHAT, FOUR OR
9:32:10AM FIVE YEARS?
9:32:11AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: I WOULD THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE DONE IN
9:32:14AM THE NEXT YEAR, 18 MONTHS WOULD BE MY GUESS UNLESS THERE ARE
9:32:17AM OTHER PHASES.
9:32:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN IN TERMS OF THE PAY, 6 MILLION, 6
9:32:23AM MILLION, 6 MILLION, IT WILL TAKE US FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO
9:32:26AM PAY IT?
9:32:27AM >> ROB ROSNER IS ACTUALLY OVER SEEING THAT WORK.
9:32:33AM HE CAN PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE THAN I.
9:32:35AM >> ROB ROSNER, DOWNTOWN CRA.
9:32:40AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE MET LAST WEEK WITH SPP.
9:32:43AM THERE'S TWO PHASES OF WORK WITH THREE STAGES EACH, COMPLETED
9:32:52AM PHASE ONE WAS LAST YEAR, THEY ARE GETTING READY TO SUBMIT AT
9:32:55AM THE END OF THIS MONTH.
9:32:57AM THEIR SECOND ONE FOR COMPLETING STAGE TWO, AND STARTING
9:33:00AM STAGE THREE IS NEXT MONTH.
9:33:02AM AND IT'S ALL THE ROAD NETWORK THAT IS SOUTH OF CUMBERLAND,
9:33:07AM THE FIRST PHASE, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF STAGES, AND BECAUSE
9:33:10AM OF THE TIMING OF HOW THEY HAVE TO REVERSE TRAFFIC AND DO THE
9:33:15AM MRT, THAT'S WHY IT'S TAKING TIME IT TAKES, BECAUSE HAVE TO
9:33:21AM PULL OFF TWO LANES, GET IT ALL INSPECTED, GET IT UP AND
9:33:27AM RUNNING.
9:33:27AM SO DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF REALIGNING THE YESTERDAY,
9:33:30AM IT'S GOING TO TAKE US THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO GET THE ENTIRE
9:33:34AM GRID REALIGNED.
9:33:36AM THE NUMBER OF AROUND 50 MILLION NOW, THE PHASE 3 PORTION
9:33:41AM WHICH IS NORTH OF CUMBERLAND, THEY JUST ACQUIRED THE
9:33:43AM PROPERTY FOR A MILL, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ROADWORK UP
9:33:49AM THERE, SO THE TOTAL WILL BE AROUND 55 OR SO WE ARE GUESSING
9:33:55AM AT THE MOMENT SINCE THEY HAVEN'T GOT A DESIGN TO GET A PRICE
9:33:59AM FROM.
9:33:59AM BUT WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS COMING UP THIS MONTH -- THEY
9:34:06AM GO THROUGH THE CRA, COUNTY PAYS US, WE PAY THEM, SO THAT'S
9:34:10AM HOW WE GET THE MONEY TRANSFERRED.
9:34:15AM SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AUGUST THROUGH JULY ROUTE,
9:34:18AM SO WE EXPECT THAT THIRD PHASE TO GO FROM AUGUST TO JULY NEXT
9:34:22AM YEAR, AND THEN WE GET INTO PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE OTHER
9:34:25AM WORK, WHEN THE SCHEDULE -- IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE
9:34:30AM MOST OF THE GRID WILL BE DONE AND THE BUILDING STARTS COMING
9:34:32AM UP.
9:34:33AM THEN THE OTHER WORK HAS TO BE DONE AND THAT WILL VARY -- THE
9:34:39AM FIRST THREE YEARS, PRETTY REGULAR, 10 OR $11 MILLION A YEAR.
9:34:46AM SO WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE WILL GET A FINAL
9:34:53AM NUMBER WHEN WE ARE DOING THE BUDGET.
9:34:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
9:34:58AM BOB, JUST IN TERMS OF THE BIGGER PICTURE OF POLICY, AND
9:35:01AM OBVIOUSLY A COUPLE OF US WEREN'T AROUND FOR THIS, IT'S A
9:35:06AM LITTLE SAD THAT THE DOWNTOWN CRA BRINGS IN A HUGE AMOUNT OF
9:35:10AM MONEY, $13 MILLION, BUT THEN SEEMS TO GET STRIPPED OUT OF
9:35:14AM THAT MONEY FOR MAJOR, MAJOR STUFF LIKE FINANCING THE
9:35:19AM CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH IT HAS DONE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS,
9:35:22AM AND LOOKS LIKE WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO IT IN SOME FORM OF
9:35:25AM REPAYMENT, $4 MILLION A YEAR, AND NOW THIS.
9:35:32AM I GUESS WAS THERE A DISCUSSION THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE PAID
9:35:36AM FOR THE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER AND WASTEWATER,
9:35:43AM I MEAN THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WERE THERE, THAT THE CITY WOULD
9:35:46AM HAVE PAID FOR THAT JUST LIKE THEY NORMALLY WOULD AS COMPARED
9:35:48AM TO THE CRA?
9:35:49AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THE CRA WAS BASICALLY STARTED TO FUND THE
9:35:52AM CONVENTION CENTER BONDS.
9:35:54AM THAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT.
9:35:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER.
9:35:57AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THEY ACTUALLY WERE RETIRED.
9:35:59AM AND THE CRA RIGHT NOW IS ACTUALLY FUNDING SOME UPGRADES TO
9:36:02AM THE CONVENTION CENTER.
9:36:03AM THAT'S WHAT THAT $4 MILLION THAT YOU SAW THERE.
9:36:06AM THE IDEA OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA, AND TIF FUNDS,
9:36:10AM ARE BASICALLY TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT.
9:36:12AM AND SO WE ARE SPENDING MONEY RIGHT NOW, IN RETURN, AGAIN,
9:36:19AM GROWING THE TIF.
9:36:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY SPECIFIC QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE
9:36:23AM DISCUSSION? TYPICALLY IF THIS HAD GONE ON IN A NON-CRA
9:36:26AM AREA, THEN PERHAPS LIKE MIDTOWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN
9:36:30AM MAYBE THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE CITY, AND THE
9:36:32AM CITY WATER AND WASTEWATER, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS, YOU
9:36:36AM KNOW, MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOOKED TO, TO COME UP WITH THAT TYPE
9:36:39AM OF FUNDING.
9:36:40AM BUT IN THIS CASE, I GUESS IT WAS FORTUITOUS FROM SOMEBODY
9:36:44AM THAT IT WAS IN THE CRA AREA.
9:36:48AM WAS THAT DISCUSSED AT ALL?
9:36:50AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
9:36:52AM THE CITY OBVIOUSLY DID NOT HAVE FUNDING OF THIS MAGNITUDE
9:36:57AM THAT THEY COULD PUT TOWARDS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
9:37:00AM AND AGAIN, THE GOAL OF GENERALLY THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA IS
9:37:06AM TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE USING THE
9:37:08AM FUNDING FOR.
9:37:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS WHAT TRIGGERS -- AND MY LAST
9:37:12AM QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU -- WAS MS. AHERN, SHE SAID
9:37:17AM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE STREETSCAPES AND THAT SORT OF
9:37:20AM THING.
9:37:20AM WELL, WHAT APPEARS TO HAPPEN DOWNTOWN IS WE HAVE THREE OUR
9:37:25AM 400 -- WELL, NOT EVEN THAT.
9:37:27AM WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
9:37:32AM I GUESS $2 MILLION FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
9:37:34AM I WILL HAVE BEEN TO SEE WHAT THEY WERE.
9:37:36AM BUT ANYWAY, THERE SEEMS TO BE LESS MONEY FOR THE BE KIND OF
9:37:41AM SMALLER PROJECTS LIKE THE MASSEY PARK AND THAT SORT OF
9:37:46AM THING, BECAUSE OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS.
9:37:50AM THAT'S MORE OF A COMMENT.
9:37:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:37:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT A REBRICKING
9:38:02AM OF 7th AVENUE, THAT SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO DO IT?
9:38:06AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE RAISED THAT SUBJECT,
9:38:08AM BUT NO.
9:38:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
9:38:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:38:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT EAST TAMPA, WE PAY A LOT
9:38:26AM ANNUALLY FOR THE ROADS.
9:38:28AM AND I THINK THAT'S A PART OF THE CITY'S DUTY OF THE GENERAL
9:38:33AM FUND VERSUS SUCKING THE CRAs MONEY FOR ACTUAL WORK THAT
9:38:38AM NEEDS TO BE DONE.
9:38:39AM SO I CAN SEE WHERE HE'S GOING.
9:38:41AM AND YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE LOOKING AT ROADS AND SEWERS, AND
9:38:44AM WE ARE GIVING MONEY TO PEOPLE.
9:38:48AM THAT JUST KIND OF BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT.
9:38:51AM BUT AGAIN, I SEE WHERE HE'S GOING WITH THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE
9:38:55AM SUCKING -- YOU ARE SUCKING THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, FOR SOMETHING
9:39:00AM THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE DIAGNOSE DOING.
9:39:02AM AGAIN THAT BOTHERS ME WITH EAST TAMPA.
9:39:04AM WE ARE SUCKING MONEY FROM OUR CRA TO DO THESE SIDEWALK
9:39:08AM PROJECTS.
9:39:09AM WE HAVE GOT TO FIND OTHER WAYS, BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT,
9:39:13AM AGAIN, WE ARE JUST SUCKING MONEY.
9:39:14AM THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.
9:39:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:39:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY FOR MAYBE A NEWBY QUESTION.
9:39:25AM AS I UNDERSTAND THE LEGISLATURE WAS QUESTIONING THE VALUE OF
9:39:28AM CRAs.
9:39:29AM AND SO YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO, THE CONCEPT OF CRA YOU
9:39:35AM HOLD MONEY IN ONE SECTION OF THE CITY AND THEN DON'T SPEND
9:39:38AM IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN PLACES THAT MIGHT NEED IT.
9:39:42AM DOES THE CITY OR STATE HAVE GUIDELINES ON THE CRA MONEY, AND
9:39:47AM ALSO COMPARING THAT TO HOW THE MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT
9:39:51AM OR WOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY?
9:39:54AM JUST THINKING ABOUT FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES OF HOW FAST THE
9:39:58AM MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT, SHOULD WE KEEP THE CRA OR SHOULD WE
9:40:02AM BE SPENDING IT IN OTHER PLACES? THEN ALSO IF WE HAVE AT ONE
9:40:05AM POINT HAVE TO JUSTIFY IT TO THE STATE, IF WE SAID THESE
9:40:09AM CRAs ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, HOW DO WE JUSTIFY TO THE STATE
9:40:12AM THE ROI?
9:40:15AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: MULTI-POINT QUESTION.
9:40:16AM MULTI-POINT ANSWER.
9:40:19AM THE QUESTIONS THAT THE STATE HAS HAD SPECIFIC TO CRAs WAS
9:40:24AM PERTAINING TO WERE THE CRAs OPERATING IN THE METHOD THAT
9:40:31AM CHAPTER 163 INTENDED THEM TO?
9:40:34AM BECAUSE APPARENTLY IN SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THERE WAS
9:40:38AM NOT THE TRANSPARENCY THAT YOU SEE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:40:42AM THEY DID NOT PUBLISH ANNUAL REPORTS.
9:40:44AM THEY DID NOT HAVE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WERE INVOLVED.
9:40:48AM SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE GUIDELINES THAT CAME DOWN FROM
9:40:51AM THE STATE, ANNUAL AUDITS, SOMETHING WE ALREADY DO, PUBLISH
9:40:56AM ALL OF THIS ON THE INTERNET, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALREADY DO,
9:40:59AM SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH THE COUNTY, IT'S SOMETHING WE
9:41:01AM ALREADY DO.
9:41:04AM WHERE THEY STARTED TO GO -- AND THEY HAVE THE PAST FOUR OR
9:41:07AM FIVE YEARS BUT IT'S NOT -- SPECIFICALLY HOW THE MONEY COULD
9:41:11AM BE SPENT, AND THE LEGISLATURE IS PUSH TOWARDS MORE OF THE
9:41:15AM MONEY BEING SPENT ON STICKS AND BRICKS, ROADWORK, SIDEWALKS,
9:41:21AM PARKS, THAT TYPE OF THING.
9:41:23AM AND SO THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLANS AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT
9:41:27AM WE HAVE, A GOOD PORTION OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT IS USED
9:41:32AM EXACTLY HOW THE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING FOR.
9:41:35AM NOW, THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE MORE
9:41:38AM EFFECTIVELY SPENT OVER A BROADER AREA, I THINK IF YOU LOOKED
9:41:45AM AT THE CHART, SPENDING TARGETED FUNDS WITHIN A REAL ESTATE
9:41:51AM DISTRICT HAS CREATED VALUE AND GREATER TAX THAN THE CITY AS
9:41:58AM A WHOLE.
9:41:59AM AS I SAID, IT LOOKS THIS YEAR AS OUR TAXES ROLL FOR THIS
9:42:04AM CITY WILL GO UP ABOUT 9%, WHEREAS THE AVERAGE IN OUR CRAs
9:42:08AM OF 18.8%.
9:42:10AM YOU KNOW, EAST TAMPA, 38%.
9:42:13AM SO TARGETING THESE FUNDS WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA HAS RAISED
9:42:19AM VALUES AND CREATED VALUE WITHIN THESE COMMUNITIES.
9:42:22AM THAT'S THE INTENT OF HAVING COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS
9:42:26AM AND TARGET FUNDS.
9:42:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE KNOW THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN
9:42:32AM HOLDING THAT MONEY BACK AND THE EXPENDITURES AND THE
9:42:34AM INCREASE IN INVESTMENT?
9:42:35AM I KNOW IT LOOKS ANECDOTAL, BUT DO WE KNOW FOR SURE?
9:42:40AM IS SPP ONE YOU CAN DIRECTLY CONNECT IT BECAUSE PRESUMABLY
9:42:45AM PART OF THEIR INVESTMENT WAS AT ANY TIME ON THAT.
9:42:48AM BUT HOW ABOUT THE OTHERS?
9:42:51AM AND AT WHAT POINT WOULD WE SEE RETURNS ON INVESTMENT IN THAT
9:42:56AM PARTICULAR AREA, IF DOWNTOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, IS GROWING REALLY
9:42:59AM FAST, WOULD WE STOP SPENDING AND START SPENDING IN OTHER
9:43:03AM AREAS?
9:43:04AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AGAIN SPECIFICALLY CHAPTER 163, YOU CANNOT
9:43:07AM SPEAK SPEND THE MONEY ANYWHERE ELSE UNLESS A COMMUNITY
9:43:12AM REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND THEN IT GOING GOES BACK INTO THE
9:43:15AM GENERAL FUND AND THE MONEY CAN BE APPORTIONED THROUGHOUT THE
9:43:17AM CITY.
9:43:17AM BUT DIFFERENT CRAs HAVE DIFFERENT POINTS THAT THEY ARE AT.
9:43:22AM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE.
9:43:27AM WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD,
9:43:29AM THE SPENDING FOR ROADWORK AND SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE
9:43:32AM WORK, AND THE THIRD PARK, THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN R WILL
9:43:38AM HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND SOME POINT WILL PROBABLY MAKE SENSE
9:43:41AM FOR THIS BOARD TO SAY, IT'S TIME TO DISSOLVE THIS.
9:43:43AM THERE'S NO MORE BLIGHT, THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN DONE, THE
9:43:46AM UPGRADES THAT PEOPLE WANTED HAS BEEN DONE, AND THAT MONEY
9:43:49AM COULD GO BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND AND BE APPORTIONED
9:43:52AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
9:43:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A LONGER
9:43:58AM CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT IT FOR EDUCATION, BUT ALSO FOR
9:44:01AM PLANNING.
9:44:01AM MY GOAL IN ASKING THE QUESTIONS IS JUST I'M ALL ABOUT ROI
9:44:07AM COMMUNITY.
9:44:08AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE THINGS
9:44:10AM THAT MATTER MOST, AND AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE HAD QUESTIONS FROM
9:44:13AM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT AND
9:44:15AM LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK GOING OWN IN THE
9:44:19AM CRAs.
9:44:20AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
9:44:22AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: CERTAINLY.
9:44:24AM THANK YOU.
9:44:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
9:44:34AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: OH, EXCUSE ME.
9:44:36AM DURING THE LAST WEST TAMPA CAC MEETING, THE CHAIR OF THAT
9:44:41AM ORGANIZATION, I BELIEVE VICE CHAIR, WERE UP AGAINST A TERM
9:44:45AM LIMIT.
9:44:46AM AND TO ALLOW THAT PERSON TO CONTINUE IN THEIR ROLE, THEY
9:44:53AM NEED TO CHANGE THE RULES.
9:44:56AM SO THE QUESTION WAS FROM THE WEST TAMPA CAC IS THE BOARD
9:45:03AM WILLING TO CHANGE THE POLICY PERTAINING TO THE LENGTH OF
9:45:09AM TERM?
9:45:16AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
9:45:30AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IN A NUTSHELL, BOB, WHAT IS THE
9:45:33AM CURRENT POLICY AS RELATED TO TERM LIMITS AND WHAT ARE THEY
9:45:35AM PROPOSING, AND DOES THAT APPLY ACROSS ALL CRAs?
9:45:40AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: NO, THIS WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM A
9:45:42AM SINGULAR DISTRICT, AND THAT WOULD BE WEST TAMPA.
9:45:45AM AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE ABILITY OF THE CURRENT CHAIR TO
9:45:49AM SERVE FOR ANOTHER TWO-YEAR TERM.
9:45:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD WE JUST BE WAIVING IT AD HOC AS
9:45:56AM RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR PERSON, OR ARE WE CHANGING --
9:46:01AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: NO.
9:46:01AM EXCUSE ME.
9:46:02AM I THINK IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU WOULD CHANGE THE RULE IN
9:46:07AM THAT PARTICULAR CRA, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWING THAT PERSON --
9:46:11AM ALLOWING THE CHAIR, NOT A PARTICULAR PERSON, BUT PERSON
9:46:15AM SERVING AS CHAIR TO HAVE ANOTHER TERM.
9:46:17AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
9:46:36AM >>JORGE MARTIN: [OFF MICROPHONE] THE CAC WOULD BE AN
9:46:47AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE YBOR CITY CRA [RUSTLING PAPERS],
9:46:55AM AND ...
9:47:43AM [OFF MICROPHONE]
9:47:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE CRA HAS NO PROBLEMS REGARDING THE
9:47:52AM PERSON?
9:47:54AM >>JORGE MARTIN: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY INDIVIDUAL --
9:47:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY QUESTION IS THIS.
9:47:58AM DOES IT RELATE TO OTHER CRAs?
9:48:00AM DO THEY HAVE POLICIES?
9:48:02AM >>JORGE MARTIN: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER POLICIES --
9:48:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN'T --
9:48:07AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: WHAT I HANDED OUT IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER 7,
9:48:11AM OFFICE FOR COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, AND THIS IS COMMUNITY
9:48:13AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE POLICY, WHICH IS IN THE HANDBOOK THAT
9:48:17AM PEOPLE RECEIVE.
9:48:18AM EACH COMMITTEE SHALL ELECT CHAIRPERSON FOR TERM OF ONE OR
9:48:20AM TWO YEARS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE.
9:48:23AM EACH COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE AN ELECTED VICE CHAIR, WILL BE
9:48:26AM THE CHAIRMAN-ELECT TO ACT IN THE CHAIR'S ABSENCE AND FOR A
9:48:31AM SMOOTH TRANSITION AT THE END OF THE CHAIR'S TERM OF SERVICE
9:48:35AM SERVE FOR ONE YEAR TO KEEP THE COUNCIL MOVING.
9:48:39AM SO THERE IS A SPECIFIC --
9:48:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME ASK, THE CRA, THIS IS WHAT YOU
9:48:48AM ARE ASKING TODAY FOR?
9:48:50AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:48:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:48:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO AS I READ IT, AND MR. MCDONAUGH SAID
9:49:00AM EARLIER, IT'S VOLUNTEERS TO BE ON THE CAC.
9:49:05AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:49:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO LET'S SAY THAT BOARD DECIDES NOBODY
9:49:09AM WANTS TO BE THE CHAIRMAN.
9:49:11AM I DON'T HAVE TIME, TO DO THE EXTRA WORK THAT THE CHAIRMAN
9:49:17AM DOES.
9:49:17AM BUT THE PERSON WHO IS SITTING IN THAT POSITION HAS GIVEN THE
9:49:23AM TIME AND THE BOARD SAYS, WE WANT TO LET THIS PERSON CONTINUE
9:49:26AM BEING THE CHAIR, BUT YOU ARE SAYING BE A POLICY DICTATES
9:49:33AM WHAT?
9:49:35AM SO AGAIN, THE VOLUNTEERS -- AND I HAVE GOT A PERSON WHO
9:49:40AM WANTS TO VOLUNTEER AND WANTS TO RUN FOR THAT POSITION.
9:49:44AM WHAT DO YOU DO, SIR?
9:49:46AM >>JORGE MARTIN: [OFF MICROPHONE] THE CRA, IF YOU LOOK AT
9:50:03AM THE CURRENT POLICY STATEMENT, YOU CANNOT SERVE BECAUSE THERE
9:50:09AM IS A POSITION CREATED FOR LAST CHAIR AND PRESENT CHAIR, AND
9:50:21AM IF THE CRA TODAY, VOLUNTARILY PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN CHANGE.
9:50:30AM THE CAC CANNOT CHANGE THIS RULE.
9:50:32AM THIS IS A POLICY CREATED BY THE CRA, AND SO IT WAS
9:50:38AM RECOMMENDED TO WEST TAMPA TO HOLD OFF PENDING AN OPPORTUNITY
9:50:43AM TO BRING THIS MATTER BEFORE THE CRA AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE
9:50:46AM HERE TODAY.
9:50:47AM IF YOU CHOOSE TO DIFFER FROM THE EXISTING POLICY YOU ARE
9:50:53AM CERTAINLY WELCOME.
9:50:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT I'M ASKING YOU IF NOBODY WANTS TO RUN
9:51:07AM ON THAT CAC BOARD, AND YOU HAVE AN EXISTING CHAIRMAN, NO ONE
9:51:11AM WANTS TO RUN FOR A CHAIRMANSHIP, YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT
9:51:17AM COME BACK TO THIS BOARD HERE AND WE'LL MAKE THAT
9:51:19AM DETERMINATION HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH ALLOWING THAT
9:51:22AM PERSON TO CONTINUE IN THAT ROLE?
9:51:25AM IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
9:51:27AM >>JORGE MARTIN: IT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
9:51:29AM AT THIS TIME POLICY.
9:51:29AM >>SAL TERRITO: I WAS HERE WHEN ALL THIS WAS GOING ON.
9:51:33AM YOUR QUESTION IS A GOOD QUESTION.
9:51:34AM BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS YOU AS A BOARD CHANGE THE
9:51:37AM RULES.
9:51:37AM THE RULES RIGHT NOW SAID YOU CAN'T GO BEYOND THE TWO YEARS.
9:51:41AM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT TEN YEARS, YOU WANT TO MAKE IT 20
9:51:44AM YEARS, MAKE IT ONE YEAR, THAT'S YOUR DECISION.
9:51:46AM BUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THAT THERE WERE TWO ORGANIZATIONS
9:51:49AM THAT DON'T FALL WITHIN THIS CATEGORY, BECAUSE WHEN THE CRA
9:51:52AM AREAS WERE ESTABLISHED, THEY ALREADY HAD ONGOING.
9:51:57AM YOU MENTIONED YCDC, EAST TAMPA HAD THE SAME OPTION US WHAT
9:52:00AM THEY HAD AN ORGANIZATION THERE, AND WHEN THAT WAS CREATED,
9:52:03AM IT WENT RIGHT IN THE CRA PLAN FOR THAT AREA THAT SAID, THIS
9:52:07AM WILL BE THE ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS THE CAC FOR YOU.
9:52:12AM SO TWO EXCEPTIONS THAT EXIST.
9:52:14AM BUT YOU HAD A GENERAL RULE WITH THOSE TWO EXCEPTIONS THAT
9:52:17AM SAID TWO YEARS AND YOU ARE OUT.
9:52:19AM YOU HAVE TO BE OUT OF OFFICE FOR ONE TERM TO COME BACK.
9:52:23AM IT IS UP TO YOU AS THE BOARD TO MAKE THE RULES.
9:52:26AM SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, THAT IS WITHIN YOUR
9:52:29AM DISCRETION TO MAKE THE CHANGE, AND IT WILL BE ACROSS THE
9:52:31AM BOARD EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO WHICH HAVE THEIR OWN RULES, EAST
9:52:35AM TAMPA AND YCDC.
9:52:37AM IT'S WITHIN YOUR CONTROL.
9:52:38AM THEY CAN'T DO IT ON THEIR OWN.
9:52:39AM THAT'S WHAT MR. MARTINEZ WAS SAYING.
9:52:41AM IT'S YOUR DECISION.
9:52:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I ASSUME WITH THE TWO-YEAR TERM
9:52:51AM LIMIT IS THERE FOR A REASON.
9:52:57AM PROBABLY PUT IN RAY LONG TIME AGO AND I GUESS IT'S BEEN --
9:53:01AM WELL, I GUESS EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
9:53:05AM AN EXCEPTION.
9:53:07AM I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE STATED IN THIS DOCUMENT
9:53:10AM THAT WE JUST RECEIVED.
9:53:11AM BUT ANYWAY, REGARDLESS, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST,
9:53:14AM MR. CHAIRMAN, INSTEAD OF THROWING OUT THE ENTIRE THING
9:53:17AM BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE SITUATION, IN ONE OF THE CRA DISTRICTS,
9:53:23AM IS PERHAPS -- AND I WOULD LOOK TO LEGAL COUNSEL FOR ADVICE
9:53:29AM ON THIS, PERHAPS ADD A SENTENCE TO ITEM 7 WHICH SAYS THE CRA
9:53:34AM MAY WAIVE THE TERM LIMIT FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO-YEAR TERM IF
9:53:39AM REQUESTED BY A PARTICULAR, WHAT DO WE CALL THEM, DISTRICTS,
9:53:46AM OR AREA, IF REQUESTED BY A VOTE OF THE PARTICULAR AREA.
9:53:51AM IN OTHER WORDS, OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE AN ISSUE IN WEST TAMPA
9:53:54AM THIS YEAR, BASED UPON THAT PROVISION I JUST PROPOSED THEY
9:53:59AM COULD COME TO US AND SAY WE NEED THAT PROVISION WAIVED
9:54:02AM BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT A GREAT CHAIR, AND NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO
9:54:05AM SERVE, PERHAPS, WHATEVER THAT SITUATION IS, AND WE HAVE THE
9:54:09AM ABILITY TO WAIVE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
9:54:14AM >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF I MAY, I HAVE A MOTION PREPARED
9:54:22AM TO HOPEFULLY RESOLVE THIS.
9:54:24AM AND AS OUR COUNSEL SAID, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SERVE A SECOND
9:54:31AM TERM THEY CAN COME BEFORE THE CRA AND ASK FOR A SECOND TERM.
9:54:35AM I THINK I HAVE A MOTION THAT I BELIEVE WILL RESOLVE THE
9:54:41AM ISSUES THAT ARE AT HAND RIGHT NOW.
9:54:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL BE GLAD TO LISTEN TO YOUR PROPOSED
9:54:46AM MOTION.
9:54:49AM WHAT I HEARD WAS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE IT ON A
9:54:54AM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AGAINST POLICY 7.
9:54:58AM I THINK -- AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THAT'S THE WAY I
9:55:04AM READ POLICY 7, SAYS THAT IT'S A TWO-YEAR TERM.
9:55:07AM >>JORGE MARTIN: IT WOULD BE A ONE-YEAR.
9:55:17AM SO MY THOUGHTS ARE IN POLICY, AND THE CRA DETERMINES HOW YOU
9:55:25AM WANT TO PROCEED.
9:55:30AM THAT COULD BE A SOLUTION.
9:55:31AM THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS.
9:55:32AM YOU CAN HAVE RULE 7 CHANGED TO A SPECIFIC TIME LIMIT OR YOU
9:55:40AM CAN SAY THAT THERE ARE NO TIME LIMITS.
9:55:43AM BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A POLICY DECISION THAT'S NOT MADE BY
9:55:50AM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:55:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION ON
9:55:59AM THIS ITEM?
9:56:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:56:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE, HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A
9:56:07AM CAVEAT PROVIDING THAT THERE IS NO ONE ELSE THAT'S BEEN
9:56:10AM NOMINATED TO BE CHAIRPERSON.
9:56:12AM CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
9:56:13AM SO THAT WAY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE THE CHAIR.
9:56:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHAIR FOR LIFE.
9:56:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
9:56:22AM THAT'S THE ONLY CAVEAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.
9:56:25AM >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
9:56:31AM IF I MAY.
9:56:44AM CLARITY WAS ASKED FOR, AND MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE COMING
9:56:48AM AS MOVING FORWARD, NOT TO ANY ELECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
9:56:52AM PRIOR TO THIS DATE.
9:56:53AM THOSE TERMS WILL BE SERVED OUT.
9:56:55AM I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN'S GUDES' POINT BUT THAT WILL BE
9:57:00AM BROUGHT BACK TO THE CRA BOARD AND WE CAN CHANGE THAT AT THE
9:57:04AM TIME PRIOR TO ELECTION, IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WANTING TO
9:57:06AM SERVE AS CHAIRMAN.
9:57:09AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:57:10AM >>JORGE MARTIN: THAT COULD BE A CAVEAT THAT WE PUT IN THE
9:57:15AM CURRENT POLICY, YOU KNOW, WHAT --
9:57:26AM IN THE EVENT THERE ARE NO OTHER CANDIDATES FOR A CHAIR OR
9:57:29AM VICE CHAIR.
9:57:31AM IT COULD BE WRITTEN INTO POLICY.
9:57:33AM THAT WAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CAC EACH
9:57:37AM TIME -- I'M SORRY, THE CRA.
9:57:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WOULD THIS BE DONE AT THE TIME THAT
9:57:47AM COUNCILMAN GUDES OR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WANTS TO AMEND THE
9:57:50AM MOTION I AM ABOUT TO MAKE, WE CAN DO THAT AT THIS TIME?
9:57:54AM >>JORGE MARTIN: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:57:55AM YOU GIVE ME DIRECTION.
9:57:56AM I HAVE A PEN AND I CAN WRITE.
9:58:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CLARIFICATION ON NUMBER 7 IS WHAT I AM
9:58:01AM CONCERNED ABOUT TODAY.
9:58:02AM IF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER OR COUNCILMAN GUDES WISH TO MAKE AN
9:58:05AM AMENDMENT I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT CONSIDERING HEARING
9:58:07AM THEIR AMENDMENT FIRST.
9:58:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE KEEPING US IN SUSPENSE,
9:58:13AM MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:58:14AM DO YOU WANT TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR IDEA IS?
9:58:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO CLARIFY BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION.
9:58:20AM MY MOTION IS TO SET A TERM LIMIT, A DEFINITE TERM LIMIT OF
9:58:25AM THE TIME OF THE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, OR CHAIR AND VICE
9:58:29AM CHAIR.
9:58:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT NOW IT'S ONE OR TWO YEARS.
9:58:33AM WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING?
9:58:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, I AM PROPOSING ONE 2-YEAR TERM LIMIT,
9:58:38AM AFTER THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE FILLING IN THOSE POSITIONS,
9:58:44AM IF THERE IS NOMINATIONS, OR IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO
9:58:50AM BE IN THESE POSITIONS.
9:58:51AM BUT FIRST I AM GOING TO SET A TIME LIMIT ON THE TERM OF THE
9:58:54AM VICE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR.
9:58:58AM THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION THAT I WOULD LIKE.
9:59:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY COMMENT ON THAT FROM THE FLOOR?
9:59:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU WANT TO?
9:59:08AM THANK YOU.
9:59:09AM CRA BOARD, IF I MAY, I MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND SECTION 7,
9:59:13AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
9:59:16AM POLICY TO READ AS FOLLOWS: TERMS OF OFFICE FOR A COMMITTEE
9:59:21AM ELECTIVE, EACH COMMITTEE WILL ELECT A CHAIRPERSON AND A VICE
9:59:25AM CHAIRPERSON TO ACT IN THE CHAIR'S ABSENCE.
9:59:30AM FOR RESPECTIVE OF TWO-YEAR TERM.
9:59:37AM THAT PERSON SHALL BE ELECTED TO THE -- NO PERSON BE SHALL BE
9:59:41AM ELECTED TO CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR MORE THAN ONE CONSECUTIVE
9:59:44AM TERM. THIS POLICY SHALL SHREWD THE ELECTIONS OF THE
9:59:47AM OFFICERS. YCDC WHICH ARE GOVERNED BY ITS BYLAWS AND
9:59:52AM PROCEEDING -- EXCUSE ME.
9:59:57AM AND THAT'S THE END OF MY MOTION.
9:59:58AM DO YOU NEED ME TO RESTATE THAT?
10:00:00AM >>JORGE MARTIN: [OFF MICROPHONE] CITY OF TAMPA CAC TO THE
10:00:18AM EXCLUSION --
10:00:21AM >> EXCUSE ME.
10:00:23AM THE YCDC CORPORATE ENTITY WHICH EXISTS PRIOR TO THE CRA AS
10:00:30AM IS THE EAST TAMPA.
10:00:31AM THOSE WILL BE EXCLUDED.
10:00:32AM >>SAL TERRITO: YOU SAID CAN THEY SERVE TWO 2 YEAR TERMS.
10:00:38AM IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY CAN BE NO MORE THAN
10:00:41AM ONE CONSECUTIVE.
10:00:42AM AND I THOUGHT THAT MEANT, AGAIN --
10:00:45AM >> ONE TERM OF TWO YEARS.
10:00:46AM >>SAL TERRITO: OKAY.
10:00:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW OF COURSE THE VICE CHAIR CAN PROCEED UP
10:00:55AM TO THE CHAIR.
10:00:55AM >>SAL TERRITO: THE OTHER CLARIFICATION, I WASN'T SURE IF
10:00:58AM THIS WAS GOING TO BE PROSPECTIVE BECAUSE IF SOMEONE IS
10:01:00AM SERVING BEYOND TWO YEARS EXCEPT FOR THE EAST TAMPA AND YCDC,
10:01:04AM THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE IF YOU WANT THAT TO
10:01:06AM CONTINUE, OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A NEW ELECTION FOR THOSE
10:01:09AM PEOPLE IF THEY ARE SERVING BEYOND THE CURRENT RULE?
10:01:12AM BECAUSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION GOING BACK AND I WANTED -- I
10:01:16AM HEARD THAT IT WOULD BE PROSPECTIVE.
10:01:17AM SO SOMEONE THAT'S FILLING A TWO-YEAR TERM AND THEY ARE IN A
10:01:22AM TWO AND A HALF-YEAR TERM, DO YOU GIVE THEM FOUR YEARS OR GO
10:01:25AM BACK AND HAVE THAT ONE REDONE?
10:01:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING
10:01:33AM SAID, BUT I AM NOT 100% CONCRETE AND I HAVE TO EXPRESS THAT
10:01:38AM BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A TWO-YEAR TERM LIMIT OF ONE TWO-YEAR
10:01:42AM TERM AND THEN NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO RUN FOR THE OFFICE, WHAT
10:01:44AM DO YOU DO?
10:01:45AM DO YOU DISSOLVE IT?
10:01:48AM WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I'M TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX
10:01:50AM IN A BROAD FORM BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
10:01:53AM SO I AM NOT OPPOSED TO SAYING YES, YOU CAN ONLY SERVE ONE
10:01:56AM TWO-YEAR TERM.
10:01:58AM THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING MR. GUDES SAID EARLIER.
10:02:02AM HOWEVER, SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CAN NOMINATE THEMSELVES, I
10:02:05AM GUESS THEY CAN DO THAT.
10:02:07AM THEN YOU CAN'T SERVE ANOTHER TERM.
10:02:11AM IT'S GETTING CONVOLUTED A LITTLE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO
10:02:15AM FIX IT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS ON THE TABLE.
10:02:17AM >>SAL TERRITO: ONE WAY OF DEALING WITH THAT, POSSIBLY, YOU
10:02:21AM MAY NOT SERVE MORE THAN A TWO-YEAR TERM WITHOUT A WAIVER BY
10:02:25AM THE BOARD.
10:02:26AM >> BY THIS BOARD?
10:02:28AM >>SAL TERRITO: YES.
10:02:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING THE AMENDMENT WOULD
10:02:33AM BE.
10:02:34AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GUDES.
10:02:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, FOR
10:02:40AM PROTECTING THE HOUSE.
10:02:42AM I WAS CONFUSED.
10:02:50AM THE POLICY ALREADY SAYS ONE TWO-YEAR TERM.
10:02:53AM SO I THINK THE PURPOSE THAT MR. MIRANDA WAS SAYING, WAS
10:03:03AM ORIGINALLY SAYING THAT WE ARE VOLUNTEERS, AND WE HAVE GOT
10:03:06AM NOBODY TO RUN.
10:03:08AM AND YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO PROTECT THE HOUSE.
10:03:12AM SO I THINK THE MOTION HAS TO BE, MR. CITRO ALLUDED TO IT,
10:03:20AM THE POLICY, WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE TO AMEND IT
10:03:23AM AND SAY A WAIVER BE GIVEN BY THIS BOARD TO CONTINUE ON.
10:03:28AM THE ONLY CAVEAT TO BE ADDED TO IT IF WE COME TO THAT
10:03:31AM ROADBLOCK, WE HAVE A WAIVER, AND THIS BOARD APPROVES THE
10:03:35AM WAIVER.
10:03:35AM >>SAL TERRITO: I THINK MR. MIRANDA WAS ADDING THE WAIVER
10:03:39AM WILL BE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO SUCCESSOR.
10:03:43AM HIS CAVEAT WAS IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO RUN, YOU DON'T WANT
10:03:47AM IT SIMPLY TO WAIVE.
10:03:49AM IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT INTERESTED IN RUNNING IT, BUT GIVE
10:03:52AM THEM TWO MORE YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
10:03:54AM SO I THIS I THIS CAVEAT, IT'S GETTING COMPLICATED OBVIOUSLY,
10:03:57AM THAT YOU HAVE A TWO-YEAR LIMITATION, AND THE BOARD MAY WAIVE
10:04:00AM THAT TWO-YEAR LIMITATION IF THERE IS NO SUCCESSOR WHO WANTS
10:04:05AM TO TAKE THAT POSITION AND COULD BE VOTED ON.
10:04:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DO UNDERSTAND THE MOTION WHAT HE WAS
10:04:14AM SAYING.
10:04:14AM >>SAL TERRITO: ALSO, AFTER YOU HAVE FINISHED YOUR
10:04:19AM DISCUSSION, WE CAN COME BACK WITH LANGUAGE FOR YOU AND YOU
10:04:22AM CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AND MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS EXACTLY
10:04:24AM WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, RATHER THAN TRYING TO GET THAT ALL
10:04:27AM DONE TODAY.
10:04:29AM AND THAT'S ALL I AM RECOMMENDING TO YOU.
10:04:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WEST TAMPA ALREADY HAD AN ELECTION
10:04:39AM ALREADY.
10:04:40AM ALREADY.
10:04:40AM BECAUSE HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK IF THEY HAVE ALREADY GOT
10:04:45AM SOMEONE, ARE WE GOING TO SUSPEND THAT?
10:04:48AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:04:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:05:03AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I MAKE A COMMENT ON
10:05:05AM THE MOTION?
10:05:06AM >> NO, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
10:05:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A MOTION
10:05:12AM IN FRONT OF ME.
10:05:13AM BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS DIFFERENT FROM
10:05:16AM THE EXISTING POLICY -- HOW YOUR MOTION DIFFERS FROM THE
10:05:22AM CURRENT POLICY.
10:05:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
10:05:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:27AM THE CURRENT POLICY IS VAGUE, HOW MANY YEARS THEY CAN SERVE,
10:05:31AM ONE OR TWO.
10:05:32AM AND HOW MANY TERMS THEY CAN SERVE.
10:05:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY.
10:05:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:05:41AM CRISPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
10:05:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN WE HAVE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO
10:05:45AM THAT AS RELATED TO THOSE TWO ITEMS.
10:05:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU WISH A.
10:05:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM.
10:05:52AM OUR LEGAL COUNSEL MIGHT DRAFT SOMETHING UP AND GIVE IT TO US
10:05:56AM AT THE END OF THE MEETING IF THAT'S OKAY GOING FORWARD.
10:05:58AM WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM AND COME BACK TO THIS AT THE
10:06:01AM END.
10:06:07AM I'M TABLE YOUR MOTION.
10:06:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM
10:06:12AM COUNCIL IF THAT LOOKS ALL RIGHT TO THE REST OF YOU.
10:06:17AM NUMBER 4.
10:06:19AM I'M SORRY.
10:06:20AM PUBLIC COMMENTS.
10:06:20AM PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
10:06:23AM TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM AGENDA.
10:06:25AM >> CONNIE BURTON.
10:06:32AM I WOULD LIKE TO PAY MEMORY TO THE LIFE OF MARTIN CHAMBERS
10:06:42AM THAT WAS KILLED IN CENTRAL PARK ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO.
10:06:49AM AS A 19-YEAR-OLD, I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS LIFE
10:06:57AM COULD HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN OR WHAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:06:59AM SUCCESSFUL IN DOING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU BACK THEN CENTRAL
10:07:04AM AVENUE SERVED AS A HUB FOR THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF
10:07:08AM AMBITION AND HOPE.
10:07:10AM WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
10:07:17AM WE HAVE BEEN SICKENED WITH POVERTY PROGRAMS TO MOVE OUR
10:07:20AM COMMUNITY FORWARD.
10:07:21AM THE TERMS KEPT CHANGING FROM POVERTY PROGRAM TO COMMUNITY
10:07:28AM BLOCK GRANT FUNDING TO EVEN DOWN TO PACKAGING WHEN OUR
10:07:37AM COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE AN ECONOMIC PUSH.
10:07:39AM I'M KIND OF PUZZLED, BECAUSE IN EAST TAMPA, THEY ARE WORKING
10:07:46AM ON A STRATEGIC PLAN AND YET WE HEAR ABOUT MOVING MONEY.
10:07:54AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SALE OF PROPERTIES FROM EAST TAMPA.
10:07:59AM THEY ARE GOING INTO A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH FUNDING, WITH
10:08:02AM THE CITY.
10:08:04AM AND WE ARE FEELING DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE
10:08:14AM EAST TAMPA BETTER.
10:08:16AM WHEN I GET TO THE NEXT MEETING I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS THE
10:08:19AM HOUSING CHAIR.
10:08:20AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS I HAVE BEEN IN EAST TAMPA
10:08:23AM WHERE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE HOUSING.
10:08:32AM AND SO IT'S CONSTANT MANIPULATION BY THE CITY, CITY STAFF,
10:08:39AM TO MOVE THAT COMMUNITY IN THE DIRECTION.
10:08:46AM AND THE LAST THING I SAY IS THIS, BRINGING HUNGRY CHILDREN
10:08:50AM DOWN HERE, SOMETIMES EVEN WITHOUT GAS MONEY, IT'S NECESSARY
10:08:54AM TO COME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING. I DON'T PLAN ON
10:08:57AM DOING ANOTHER DEMONSTRATION IN EAST TAMPA.
10:09:00AM ALL MY DEMONSTRATION IS GOING TO BE W WHEREVER SPP FUNDING
10:09:06AM HAS GONE UNTIL WE CAN SHED LIGHT ON THE CONSTANT DISPARITY
10:09:13AM THIS IS THE WORKING CLASS BLOCK FOLKS THAT DID THE HARD
10:09:19AM LABOR TO GET THE CITY OF TAMPA TO THE POINT IT IS AT NOW,
10:09:23AM AND TO CONSTANTLY BE DISRESPECTED AND GOING TO A MEETING AND
10:09:27AM BEING TOLD THAT THE DESIRES AND THE WISHES OF THAT COMMUNITY
10:09:33AM CANNOT BE FULFILLED.
10:09:34AM SO THAT'S WHERE I WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.
10:09:36AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:09:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SINCE MY NAME WAS CALLED I CAN SEE SOME OF
10:09:42AM THE FRUSTRATION, WHEN I SAT ON THAT BOARD, SO I UNDERSTAND
10:09:47AM THE FRUSTRATION AND COULDN'T GET A QUORUM MULTITUDE OF TIMES
10:09:51AM BECAUSE OF LACK OF VOLUNTEERISM.
10:10:00AM I UNDERSTAND I COULD NOT MOVE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:10:08AM I DO KNOW THE CHAIR, SHE'S WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH FRIENDS
10:10:14AM TO MOVE IDEAS AND PROGRAMS.
10:10:15AM I KNOW SHE'S BEEN OUT THERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHO HAVE
10:10:18AM EXPERTISE TO BE PART OF THE BOARD.
10:10:21AM I KNOW THE BOARD IS GETTING READY TO MAKE NAMES.
10:10:23AM SO HOPEFULLY WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT.
10:10:27AM THAT IS MY PRAYER.
10:10:28AM THAT IS MY HOPE.
10:10:29AM I KNOW SHE TRIED HARD.
10:10:32AM WE KNOW THERE'S A SITUATION OF FUNDING, HOW THE HOUSING
10:10:35AM DEPARTMENT HAS ALLOWED REGULATION, AND THAT'S WHY SHE TRIED
10:10:38AM TO GET THE RFP DONE FOR DOLLARS, FOR FACILITIES, PROTOCOLS,
10:10:47AM IN REFERENCE TO GIVING PEOPLE MONEY, BECAUSE FEDERAL MONEY,
10:10:52AM A LOT OF TIMES CONSTRAINTS, CONDITIONS.
10:10:54AM SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS NEW PROGRAM WILL WORK, AND AGAIN, AS
10:10:58AM IT RELATES TO NOT HAVING -- HOPEFULLY THE CHAIR IS WORKING
10:11:02AM ON THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME SOMEONE TO FILL THESE
10:11:07AM POSITIONS.
10:11:07AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN.
10:11:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. BURTON, AND -- RAISE AN IMPORTANT
10:11:24AM ISSUE.
10:11:25AM I THINK YOU HEARD EARLIER AN EXPLANATION ABOUT THE SPP
10:11:29AM MONEY.
10:11:31AM IT'S ENLIGHTENING TO ME IN PART BECAUSE OTHERWISE I KNOW
10:11:35AM WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER.
10:11:36AM IT'S NOT ALWAYS FULLY COMPLETE.
10:11:41AM SO I THINK WE LEARNED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:11:44AM POTENTIALLY UP TO $50 MILLION, IT SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO
10:11:47AM BE LESS, 30, 35 MILLION, OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY GOING TO
10:11:53AM IMPROVE THE CITY STREETS, STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, IN THAT
10:11:58AM SPECIFIC AREA.
10:11:59AM NOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND AS LONG OR LONGER THAN I
10:12:04AM HAVE IN THESE MEETINGS.
10:12:06AM YOU KNOW THAT THE DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT
10:12:11AM WITHIN THE ONE OR TWO-MILE CONFINES OF THE DISTRICT DOWNTOWN
10:12:18AM DISTRICT, SO IF WE WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY IN EAST TAMPA,
10:12:23AM STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
10:12:26AM DOWNTOWN CRA HAS TO BE SPENT HERE.
10:12:29AM WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS A WISE DECISION TWO YEARS AGO,
10:12:32AM WHATEVER, WE CAN ARGUE.
10:12:33AM BUT IT'S ALREADY A COMMITMENT.
10:12:37AM BUT ANYWAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE TWO POINTS.
10:12:47AM HOPE INFLUENCE THAT SPP DEVELOPMENT WILL RAISE ALL SHIPS AND
10:12:51AM PEOPLE WILL HAVE EMPLOYMENT IN THOSE HOTELS, BUSINESSES THAT
10:12:55AM GOING TO GO DOWN THERE WITH THE SPP DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:57AM I'M SURE THAT'S MR. VINIK'S HOPE.
10:13:01AM HE SEEMS LIKE A DECENT MAN.
10:13:03AM AND INVESTING A LOT OF HIS OWN CAPITAL AS WELL.
10:13:07AM SO IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY.
10:13:12AM I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT POINT EARLIER.
10:13:16AM JUST TO CLARIFY FOR YOU AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS WATCHING.
10:13:20AM WHAT THAT $50 MILLION COMMITMENT WAS ABOUT.
10:13:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO POSTED THE TIMES STORY ABOUT HIM THE
10:13:35AM OTHER DAY, AND WITH THE HEADING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE
10:13:39AM WORKING ON EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:13:41AM I THINK YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDLY EARS UP
10:13:46AM HERE, AND WE ARE LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO MOVE THINGS NO
10:13:49AM DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
10:13:51AM I KNOW I AM HAVING LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND THE
10:13:55AM MAYOR, AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ARE, TOO.
10:13:59AM I THINK ALL OF US WOULD LIKE THINGS TO MOVE FASTER.
10:14:02AM BUT IT'S TAKING MORE TIME THAN WE EXPECTED.
10:14:05AM BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR GUIDANCE AND SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE ON
10:14:09AM HOW TO CREATE A NEW PLAN AND NEW IDEAS FOR THE FUTURE WOULD
10:14:12AM BE WELCOME, AND I AM HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT
10:14:16AM IT.
10:14:19AM CONNIE BURTON: THANK YOU.
10:14:21AM >> METEZMAT. I WANT TO SAY ONE THING THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO
10:14:27AM KNOW, TAMPA, FLORIDA ABOUT COMING DOWN HERE AND PUTTING
10:14:34AM LIGHT IN AN OVERALL PERSPECTIVE OF HOW IT WORKS FOR THE
10:14:37AM AFRICAN, FROM CHATTEL SLAVERY TO SHARECROPPING TO CIVIL
10:14:43AM RIGHTS TO GENTRIFICATION.
10:14:46AM IT'S ALL ABOUT TRICKERY WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT CRA, CDC AND ALL
10:14:53AM THESE OTHER GRANTS, SOUP KITCHENS.
10:14:56AM A LOT OF GREED, MISMANAGEMENT GOING ON.
10:14:58AM THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
10:15:00AM AND IT'S THE WAY WHITE PEOPLE CAN TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM
10:15:04AM AFRICAN COMMUNITY, FEDERAL MONEY, STATE MONEY, COUNTY MONEY,
10:15:10AM CITY MONEY, PRIVATE MONEY, AWAY FROM THE AFRICAN COMMUNITIES
10:15:14AM AND AWAY FROM THE AFRICAN AND KEEP US, WE ARE 26% OF THIS
10:15:19AM POPULATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THEY REDUCE IT EVERY
10:15:22AM SINGLE DAY BECAUSE THEY ARE KICKING US OUT OF RIVERVIEW,
10:15:25AM SAFETY HARBOR, PALM HARBOR, DIFFERENT PLACES.
10:15:31AM THAT'S NOT INDIGENOUS TO EVEN THE 100-YEAR-OLD POPULATION
10:15:35AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:15:36AM AND IT'S ALL ABOUT TRICKERY.
10:15:38AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:15:39AM IT'S ABOUT TRICKERY.
10:15:41AM AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IN DEVELOPMENT.
10:15:44AM THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IN PROGRESS.
10:15:45AM EVERYBODY LOVES THAT.
10:15:46AM THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IN GENTRIFICATION.
10:15:49AM IT'S NOTHING WRONG IN REDEVELOPMENT.
10:15:51AM AND IT'S NOTHING WRONG IN REVITALIZATION.
10:15:54AM BUT IT'S SOMETHING WRONG IN GENOCIDE AND IT'S SOMETHING
10:15:58AM WRONG WITH THE PURPOSEFUL AND INTENTIONAL EXTENSION OF THE
10:16:05AM AFRICAN MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD.
10:16:08AM IT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY WRONG WITH THAT.
10:16:10AM AND THERE'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY WRONG WITH BEING
10:16:13AM INSENSITIVE TO AFRICAN PEOPLE'S, OUR NEEDS, OUR DESIRES, OUR
10:16:19AM AMBITIONS.
10:16:21AM THERE'S SOMETHING VERY, VERY, VERY WRONG AND INSENSITIVE
10:16:25AM ABOUT THAT, INSENSITIVITY.
10:16:27AM YOU KNOW HOW SOME GAY PEOPLE ARE INSENSITIVE WHEN YOU SAY
10:16:30AM CERTAIN THINGS, WHEN YOU MAKE A GAY JOKE, SINCE 2019 OR 2020
10:16:38AM YOU HAVE TO BE MORE SENSITIVE.
10:16:40AM YOU HAVE TO BE MORE SENSITIVE WHEN THE BLACK MAN STARTS
10:16:42AM TALKING, THE WHITE MAN WALKS AWAY.
10:16:46AM WHEN THE BLACK CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE STARTED TALKING
10:16:49AM THE WHITE MAN WALKED AWAY FROM THE PODIUM.
10:16:54AM BLACK PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE TO THESE THINGS.
10:16:56AM VERY SENSITIVE.
10:16:57AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:16:57AM AND IT'S TIME YOU GET SOME ADVANCEMENT.
10:17:01AM WE HAVE A DIFFERENT BOARD HERE.
10:17:03AM IT'S TIME YOU GET SOME ADVANCEMENT AND SOME RESPECT IN THIS
10:17:07AM CITY, NOT FROM BE THE PREVIOUS MAYOR OR THE CURRENT ONE,
10:17:11AM THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM GOING ON IS BY THE WAY AND THERE'S
10:17:16AM SO MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE WALKING OUT, AND BOOM BY THE WAY AND
10:17:21AM HAVEN'T BEEN UP THERE ONE SINGLE TIME TO SHOW HIS FACE OR
10:17:25AM HER FACE TO REPRESENT THE CONSTITUENTS IN ANY WAY
10:17:29AM WHATSOEVER.
10:17:30AM THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG ABOUT THAT.
10:17:31AM [BELL SOUNDS]
10:17:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL.
10:17:37AM ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS?
10:17:38AM SEEING NONE LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:17:40AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: WE ARE ASKING TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM THE
10:17:50AM DREW PARK PROJECT TO THE TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD PARK PROCESS,
10:17:57AM ON TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, AND THE DREW PARK CRA.
10:18:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD COMES PAST THE
10:18:11AM POLICE STATION THERE, BETWEEN THE POLICE STATION AND HCC.
10:18:16AM I THINK AS IT MAKES ITS WAY INTO DREW PARK.
10:18:20AM I THINK IT GOES DOWN AND HAS A LITTLE CIRCLE DOWN TOWARD THE
10:18:23AM END.
10:18:26AM TELL THIS NEW CRA MEMBER --
10:18:29AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: IF YOU CONTINUE GOING WEST --
10:18:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:18:36AM >> DREW PARK CITY MANAGER IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:18:40AM BETWEEN LOIS AND --
10:18:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT SORT OF PARK ARE WE DOING, LINEAR?
10:18:51AM IS THIS A BIKE TRAIL?
10:18:52AM WHAT IS IT?
10:18:54AM >> IT HAS WALKING PATHS, AND THIS CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE
10:19:02AM ACTUAL LINEAR PARK.
10:19:04AM SO WHAT WE ARE DOING -- AND THIS COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE,
10:19:07AM FROM THE CAC, THEY DID A MASTER PLAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND
10:19:11AM IDENTIFIED ABOUT 11 PROJECTS WITHIN THE DID DREW PARK AREA.
10:19:15AM ONE OF THE FIRST REALLY LARGE SCALE PROJECTS WAS THE
10:19:17AM IMPROVEMENTS MADE ON LOIS AND GRADY.
10:19:20AM SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDED STORMWATER TREATMENT,
10:19:24AM BEAUTIFICATION, SIDEWALKS, STREET TREES, AND A BIG PART OF
10:19:30AM THAT WAS MAKING A CONNECTION FROM TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD DOWN
10:19:33AM LOIS TO HILLSBOROUGH, AND THEN AROUND TO AIR CARGO ROAD,
10:19:38AM WHICH IS THE AIRPORT'S ROAD, BACK DOWN TO TAMPA BAY
10:19:42AM BOULEVARD.
10:19:44AM IN THE AREA OF TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, TO THE NORTH OF THE
10:19:47AM LINEAR PARK, WE HAVE SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS.
10:19:52AM SO THIS WORKS TO IMPROVE THOSE.
10:19:54AM WITHIN THE ACTUAL PARK ITSELF, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE
10:19:57AM IMAGE, WE HAVE INCLUDED OBVIOUSLY TREES, WE ADDED PARKING,
10:20:03AM AS WELL AS A WALKING TRAIL.
10:20:10AM AND SOME SEATING AREAS.
10:20:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW BIG IS THE RESIDENTIAL POPULATION IN
10:20:17AM DREW PARK?
10:20:18AM I THINK IT KIND OF LEANS THIS WAY.
10:20:22AM THE RESIDENCES.
10:20:26AM DO YOU THINK THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE USED BY FOLKS?
10:20:30AM AND FINALLY, IS THERE A MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION THAT'S GOING
10:20:35AM TO BE ANNUAL TO THE CRA, OR IS PARKS AND REC GOING TO PICK
10:20:40AM IT UP AS PART OF THEIR REGULAR STUFF?
10:20:46AM >> YES, THE RESIDENCES, THIS IS ALSO IN FRONT OF THE -- AND
10:20:57AM BEHIND THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF DREW PARK.
10:21:00AM SO HOPING THAT FOLKS IN THE AREA WILL UTILIZE THE PARK AS
10:21:03AM WELL AS TO SUPPLEMENT THE ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON IN AND
10:21:06AM AROUND DREW PARK, THE OTHER EVENTS IN THE AREA.
10:21:12AM AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE, YES, THERE WILL BE A MAINTENANCE
10:21:14AM COMPONENT THAT WILL BE COVERED BY THE DREW PARK CRA FOR SOME
10:21:18AM TIME.
10:21:19AM OUR HOPE IS WE'LL MAINTAIN TO THE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING,
10:21:24AM THE UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE COSTS, AND TRANSFER THOSE COSTS.
10:21:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:21:34AM AGAIN, IF YOU A SURE US THAT THIS WAS A STRONG APPEAL FROM
10:21:44AM THE BOARD AND FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT THIS IS
10:21:47AM WHAT THEY WANT, I GUESS I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
10:21:50AM IT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE OUT OF THE WAY AND NOT VERY CENTRAL
10:21:53AM TO THE DISTRICT.
10:21:57AM ALSO, IT DOES CONCERN ME, HOW BIG IS THE MAINTENANCE
10:22:01AM RESPONSIBILITY, AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT IT COULD LAST
10:22:04AM FOREVER AND BE A DRAIN ON THE CRA.
10:22:06AM AND THAT'S NOT A VERY BIG CRA.
10:22:08AM DOLLARWISE.
10:22:10AM SO HOW BIG IS THE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION?
10:22:14AM >> WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THAT NUMBER AS OF YET.
10:22:18AM BUT WE CAN COME BACK WITH AN ESTIMATE OF THAT AT OUR NEXT
10:22:21AM MEETING.
10:22:23AM AT YOUR MECHANICS MEETING YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM A
10:22:25AM REPRESENTATIVE FROM DREW PARK.
10:22:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:22:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, THAT AREA THERE IS WHERE I
10:22:35AM BELIEVE AT THE CORNER, ON THE WEST NORTHWEST CORNER, WHERE
10:22:42AM ELSACON USED TO BE, CORRECT?
10:22:53AM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT DREW PARK JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT
10:22:56AM MAYBE 40 FEET, 50 FEET, IS THAT NOW AN APARTMENT BUILDING
10:22:59AM WHERE MOST OF THE STUDENTS ARE THERE FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH
10:23:02AM COMMUNITY COLLEGE?
10:23:05AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: YES, SIR.
10:23:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY MADE AN ENORMOUS INVESTMENT IN THE
10:23:10AM DALE MABRY, HCC, AND IN OTHERS.
10:23:14AM THE DALE MABRY ONE THEY JUST COMPLETED A MASS INVESTMENT
10:23:18AM PROJECT TO HELP THE YOUNG AND MAINLY A LOT OF US WHO
10:23:22AM COULDN'T AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE FOR TWO YEARS, TO GO TO
10:23:26AM HCC, AND THIS IS A TRANSFER, A FEEDING AREA, AND THE
10:23:30AM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
10:23:32AM AND IT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR A WHILE.
10:23:35AM THAT AREA THERE HAS BEEN TERRIBLY UGLY.
10:23:39AM BUT WITH THIS ENHANCEMENT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT
10:23:42AM ENHANCEMENT FOR DREW PARK.
10:23:43AM WHEN YOU LOOK, THE CITY PUT THIS JUST WEST I WOULD SAY ABOUT
10:23:49AM THREE BLOCKS, FOUR BLOCKS AWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT
10:23:53AM SAME LOCATION, FURTHER EAST, THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS, THE
10:23:57AM POLICE STATION THAT'S THERE.
10:23:59AM AND THERE WASN'T EVEN A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, JUST TO THE
10:24:04AM EAST.
10:24:05AM AND THE ROUNDABOUT WORKS.
10:24:08AM MAYBE SOME SEMIS HAVE TROUBLE.
10:24:11AM BUT THE DREW PARK IS PRIMARILY NOT A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
10:24:15AM IT'S RIGHT TO SAY THAT, BUT IT HAS A COMPONENT RESIDENCE
10:24:18AM THAT NEEDS THE SAME AMENITY THAT THEY NEED ANYWHERE ELSE.
10:24:21AM SO I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY NEED IT.
10:24:23AM IN FACT, DREW PARK AND THE FACADE PROGRAM, THEY HAVE DONE A
10:24:26AM LOT OF FACADES, AND DREW PARK HAS MADE SOME GIANT STEPS IN
10:24:32AM THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS, AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES THAT WAY.
10:24:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:24:39AM ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
10:24:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW THE AIRPORT HAD A SIMILAR PROPERTY
10:24:47AM THERE YEARS AGO.
10:24:49AM IS THERE SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU THINK THIS MIGHT SPUR?
10:24:53AM >> WELL, IT'S TWOFOLD.
10:24:56AM YOU ARE CORRECT, AND THE AIRPORT HAS ACQUIRED THE MAJORITY
10:25:02AM OF THE PROPERTY WEST OF AIR CARGO ROAD, AND THEY HAVE SOME
10:25:05AM DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY AND I THINK THERE'S AN
10:25:10AM ANNOUNCEMENT MADE NOT LONG AGO.
10:25:14AM BUT IT IS ALSO LARGELY A PARK FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN
10:25:19AM THAT AREA SO THAT THEY HAVE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT DREW
10:25:21AM PARK.
10:25:22AM SURROUNDED BY LOIS, BACK OUT.
10:25:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
10:25:32AM I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
10:25:37AM MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
10:25:39AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:25:40AM ALL OPPOSED?
10:25:42AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:25:43AM THANK YOU.
10:25:44AM ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:25:45AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: ITEM NUMBER 5, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE
10:25:47AM REAPPOINTMENT OF A WEST TAMPA CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE,
10:25:54AM BENJAMIN BUCKLEY.
10:25:55AM >> SO MOVED.
10:25:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
10:25:59AM CONGRATULATIONS, MR. BUCKLEY.
10:26:00AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: WE ARE ASKING FOR ITEM NUMBER 6 FOR THE
10:26:04AM APPOINTMENT FOR CENTRAL PARK, FOR GWENDOLYN MYERS.
10:26:09AM >> SO MOVED.
10:26:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:13AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:26:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:16AM OPPOSED?
10:26:17AM CONGRATULATIONS, MS. MYERS.
10:26:19AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL KASS TO THE DREW
10:26:22AM PARK CAC.
10:26:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:26:26AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:28AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:26:29AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AND THE APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL JARMER TO
10:26:37AM THE DOWNTOWN CAC.
10:26:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE TO APPROVE AND SECONDED BY
10:26:42AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
10:26:47AM MIRANDA.
10:26:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:49AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:26:49AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: FACADE GRANT IN WEST TAMPA ON CYPRESS
10:26:55AM STREET, THE CONVERSION OF THIS BUILDING TO A DENTIST OFFICE.
10:26:59AM AND THE DEFENDANT DID INTEREST IS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
10:27:01AM SPEAK WITH HIM, THE APPLICANT.
10:27:02AM >> HELLO.
10:27:17AM FIRST BEING A RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA FOR A DECADE NOW,
10:27:20AM SEE ALL THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, GLAD TO BE PART OF IT.
10:27:24AM COMING HERE, I'M GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE EVERYONE HELPING
10:27:29AM MY SMALL BUSINESS.
10:27:31AM GENERATION DENTISTRY IS THE PATH I HAVE CHOSEN, MY PURPOSE
10:27:35AM IN LIFE.
10:27:36AM PERSONALLY I'M A THIRD GENERATION DENTIST, FOOTSTEPS OF MY
10:27:40AM FATHER AND GRANDFATHER.
10:27:41AM I DO WANT TO IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT DENTISTRY CAN
10:27:45AM HAVE, SMILE CONFIDENTLY MEANS SO MUCH TO ME.
10:27:50AM MY STAFF AND I PLAN TO ESTABLISH THIS CORNER TO BE A
10:27:53AM LANDMARK, THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN COME FOR QUALITY
10:27:57AM DENTISTRY AN MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER DID FOR THEIR
10:28:01AM COMMUNITIES.
10:28:01AM THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME MAKE THIS LOCATION ON THE SOUTH
10:28:04AM SIDE, DEVELOPED WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF CARE, EVERY PATIENT
10:28:06AM WILL RECEIVE WHO WALKS THROUGH MY DOORS. THIS IS MY HEART
10:28:10AM AND SOUL.
10:28:10AM THANK YOU.
10:28:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY.
10:28:13AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:28:15AM THAT WHOLE AREA HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT A DENTAL OFFICE
10:28:18AM THERE, AND CERTAINLY TRAVELED VERY HEAVILY ALL THE TIME.
10:28:23AM IN FACT, ON THE EAST SIDE THERE'S A FENCE COMPANY, THAT
10:28:26AM PROPERTY FOR SALE, AND DOWN THE STREET, USED TO BE A GARAGE
10:28:29AM THERE, AND NOW I AND ACROSS FROM YOU IS THE CATERERS, ALL IN
10:28:41AM THE FAMILY, AND ACROSS FROM YOU DIRECTLY IS THE GAS STATION
10:28:44AM THAT NOW HAS SOME FOOD, AND THE HOUSE JUST ON THE WEST SIDE
10:28:47AM OF YOU SOMEONE SPENT A LITTLE MONEY ON IT, AND NEXT WAS A
10:28:54AM HOUSE UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AND
10:28:59AM IT LOOKS VERY NICE.
10:29:01AM IT'S A LOCATION THAT CERTAINLY IS SOUTH, HEADING SOUTH ON
10:29:05AM ARMENIA OR HAYES, EAST OR WEST ON CYPRESS.
10:29:09AM I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
10:29:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:11AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:29:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS EAST ML KING?
10:29:18AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACTUALLY, THIS ITEM IS ITEM 10.
10:29:21AM WE JUMPED ITEM 9.
10:29:23AM BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
10:29:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHERE IS THAT?
10:29:36AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
10:29:37AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: EXCUSE ME.
10:29:40AM THIS IS ITEM 10.
10:29:41AM I'LL COME BACK TO ITEM 9.
10:29:43AM MY MISTAKE.
10:29:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON A PERSONAL NOTE -- AND I DON'T THINK I
10:29:52AM NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF, BUT HE HAS BEEN MY DENTIST FOR A
10:29:56AM COUPLE OF YEARS, IS A GOOD MAN, AND THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT
10:29:59AM LITTLE PROJECT, AND I THINK IT'S -- JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY
10:30:05AM FOR ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING, IT'S A 50-50 PROGRAM, SO
10:30:11AM WHATEVER MONEY THE CRA PUTS INTO IT HE MATCHES OR ADVICE
10:30:15AM VEERS A AND THAT CORNER AT THAT POINT COULD USE A LITTLE
10:30:17AM SPRUCING UP.
10:30:19AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:30:19AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:30:22AM >> SECOND.
10:30:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
10:30:27AM TAKE THE RESOLUTION?
10:30:29AM >> IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
10:30:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY APOLOGIES.
10:30:32AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:30:33AM ALL OPPOSED?
10:30:35AM IT PASSES.
10:30:36AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:30:36AM NOW LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM 9.
10:30:38AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES.
10:30:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:30:47AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: AGAIN, EAST TAMPA, MARTIN LUTHER KING, SO
10:30:55AM AGAIN IT'S A VERY VISIBLE SITE.
10:30:58AM AND THEY ARE REPLACING SOME WINDOWS, DOORS, AWNINGS,
10:31:03AM LANDSCAPING, ARTSCAPE.
10:31:05AM BASICALLY THE IDEA IS TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE THING.
10:31:10AM ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES I CAN THINK OF IS ON DALE MABRY WHO
10:31:12AM HAD A SIMILAR SCOPE OF WORK.
10:31:14AM AND IF ANYBODY HAS DRIVEN BY THERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT AN
10:31:17AM AMAZING CHANGE.
10:31:18AM AND THAT'S THE PLAN THAT THESE FOLKS ARE DOING AS WELL.
10:31:25AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:31:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:31:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:31:30AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:31:31AM THANK YOU.
10:31:33AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: THAT CONCLUDES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
10:31:41AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, [RUSTLING PAPERS] WHEN I STEPPED AWAY, TO
10:31:52AM GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE LAWYERS.
10:32:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN GUDES,
10:32:09AM THE REWRITING OF THE MOTION PRESENTED EARLIER.
10:32:14AM [OFF MICROPHONE] AND THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT YOU WOULD LIKE
10:32:19AM TO ADD OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE READING IT NOW?
10:32:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
10:32:27AM JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE BEEN PASSED THE TYPED-UP
10:32:30AM REVISION OF MR. CHAIRMAN'S MOTION.
10:32:32AM I DID HAVE ONE SLIGHT TWEAK IN THE SECOND LINE.
10:32:37AM SO RIGHT NOW, THE MOTION SAYS EACH COMMITTEE WILL ELECT A
10:32:41AM CHAIRPERSON AND A VICE CHAIRPERSON TO ACT IN THE CHAIR'S
10:32:44AM ABSENCE FOR A RESPECTIVE ONE TWO-YEAR TERM PERIOD. SO JUST
10:32:50AM TO TWEAK THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, AND ALSO TO BE A LITTLE MORE
10:32:53AM CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST
10:32:56AM IS THE LAST PART OF THAT, AND CHAIRPERSON AND VICE
10:33:01AM CHAIRPERSON TO ACT IN THE CHAIR'S ABSENCE FOR A ONE OR
10:33:07AM TWO-YEAR TERM, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE.
10:33:12AM IT APPEARED TO ME THAT WE WANTED TO GIVE EACH OF THE AREAS,
10:33:18AM THE COMMITTEES, THE DISCRETION TO DO A ONE-YEAR TERM OR A
10:33:22AM TWO-YEAR TERM FOR THEIR TIF.
10:33:27AM THAT'S WHAT MY FRIENDLY SUGGESTION IS, TO STAY CONSISTENT
10:33:31AM WITH THAT.
10:33:32AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THEREBY IN TERMS OF MAYBE
10:33:35AM THEY WANT TO USE THE ONE-YEAR TERM IN DREW PARK BUT THEY
10:33:39AM WANTED A TWO-YEAR TERM IN WEST TAMPA.
10:33:41AM SO LET'S GIVE THEM THE DISCRETION TO BE DO THAT.
10:33:48AM THAT'S MY FRIENDLY SUGGESTION, AFTER YOU MAKE THE REVISED
10:33:53AM MOTION.
10:33:54AM I CAN TAG THAT ON OR YOU CAN TAG IT ON.
10:33:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
10:34:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: BACK TO WHAT MR. TERRITO SAID EARLIER, SAID
10:34:07AM ONE CONSECUTIVE TERM.
10:34:09AM SHOULD WE JUST SAY ONE TWO-YEAR TERM?
10:34:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT I AM SAYING AT THE END OF THE FIRST
10:34:16AM SENTENCE, BILL, IN THE CHAIR'S ABSENCE FOR A ONE OR TWO-YEAR
10:34:21AM TERM, COMMA, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE.
10:34:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN THE END OF THE SECOND IT SAYS VICE
10:34:29AM CHAIR FOR MORE THAN ONE CONSECUTIVE YEAR AND TAP THAT OUT.
10:34:35AM ONE CONSECUTIVE TERM, WHEN YOU FIRST SAID IT, IT SOUNDED
10:34:40AM LIKE TWO TERMS ALSO
10:34:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ONE TERM.
10:34:44AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:34:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU CAN COME BACK CARL.
10:34:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT?
10:34:58AM ALL RIGHT.
10:34:58AM I WITHDRAW.
10:34:59AM >>JORGE MARTIN: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:35:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT TO READ THE REVISED MOTION,
10:35:08AM MR. CHAIR?
10:35:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, ACTUALLY, MR. DINGFELDER -- EXCUSE ME
10:35:12AM ONE SECOND.
10:35:20AM MR. DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ OUT THE MOTION,
10:35:23AM PLEASE?
10:35:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
10:35:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON ONE SECOND.
10:35:27AM MY AIDE HAS THE REVISED TO WHAT -- WE DON'T HAVE ALL A COPY
10:35:39AM OF THAT.
10:35:40AM >> MAYBE MY AIDE CAN RUN BACK AND PRINT UP SOME MORE.
10:35:49AM >> TERM LIMITATION MAY BE WAIVED BY THE CRA BOARD.
10:35:52AM SHOULD WE SAY FOR ONE ADDITIONAL CONSECUTIVE TERM?
10:35:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT MAY NOT BE FOR FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS, IF
10:36:00AM SOMEBODY COMES IN AND FILLS THE POSITION.
10:36:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: DOING IT ONE AT A TIME.
10:36:05AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:36:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A ONE-YEAR TERM --
10:36:19AM >> I THINK THAT WAS YOUR INTENT.
10:36:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT SPECIFIC WORDS ARE YOU ADDING?
10:36:31AM FOR ONE ADDITIONAL TERM.
10:36:32AM OKAY.
10:36:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS BOARD WOULD
10:36:48AM LIKE TO WAIVE.
10:36:54AM WE ARE ALREADY SAYING THAT THIS BOARD, A CHANGE IN THE
10:36:59AM WAIVERS.
10:36:59AM WE ARE GOING TO GRANT THAT.
10:37:01AM SO I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ADDITIONAL IS GOING TO DO ANY
10:37:04AM GOOD.
10:37:04AM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:37:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SORRY.
10:37:20AM IN THE EVENT THAT ONE ADDITIONAL TERM --
10:37:25AM >>JORGE MARTIN: BY THE CIRCUMSTANCE, THEN AN ELECTED
10:37:30AM OFFICER NEEDS TO COME BACK FOR A WAIVER.
10:37:37AM I THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE MEMBER'S CONCERN.
10:37:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT
10:37:47AM THE CIRCUMSTANCE. IF WE DO THAT, AND THAT'S OPENING THE
10:37:50AM DOOR AND YOU HAVE CONSECUTIVE TERMS FOREVER.
10:37:52AM >>JORGE MARTIN: IN THE EVENT THAT YOU HAVE IN A OTHER
10:37:55AM CANDIDATES, AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IS THE
10:37:57AM SITUATION WHERE AS VOLUNTEERS YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS
10:38:01AM THE SOLE CANDIDATE FOR ANY NUMBER OF TERMS.
10:38:06AM THAT'S THE ONLY CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THE WAIVER IS ENVISIONED,
10:38:12AM BUT ALWAYS COME COMES BACK TO THE CRA BOARD.
10:38:16AM YOU ARE THE FINAL DECISION MAKER.
10:38:18AM IF YOU CHOOSE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL
10:38:21AM OPTION, THAT'S NULL AND VOID AND FIND SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:38:27AM BUT RIGHT NOW, AS THE CIRCUMSTANCES OCCUR, IT GIVES THE CRA
10:38:33AM BOARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT WAIVER.
10:38:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ON YOUR
10:38:44AM SUGGESTION, ALTHOUGH I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IS IF WE
10:38:48AM SAY FOR ONE ADDITIONAL TERM, IT ALMOST THE IS IMPLIED THAT
10:38:53AM AT THE END OF THAT TWO YEARS, AND IF THEY ARE MESSED UP AND
10:38:58AM THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO FILL IT, THAT WE COULDN'T WAIVE IT
10:39:02AM AGAIN.
10:39:08AM THAT'S HOW I WOULD READ IT TOO, HANDCUFFS THAT WE DON'T KNOW
10:39:12AM THAT WE WANT TO IMPOSE ON ANY FUTURE BODY LIKE THIS.
10:39:17AM SO IT MIGHT BE BETTER JUST TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT
10:39:19AM NOW.
10:39:20AM THE TERM LIMITATION MAY BE WAIVED BY THE CRA BOARD, PERIOD.
10:39:29AM I'LL READ THE MOTION, IF YOU WISH.
10:39:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH PULLING YOUR
10:39:35AM FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?
10:39:36AM OKAY, PLEASE CONTINUE.
10:39:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THIS WILL BE A REVISED POLICY ITEM BE
10:39:41AM 7, TERM OF OFFICE FOR COMMITTEES ELECTED, EACH COMMITTEE
10:39:46AM WILL ELECT A CHAIRPERSON AND A VICE CHAIRPERSON TO ACT IN
10:39:49AM THE CHAIR'S ABSENCE FOR A ONE OR TWO-YEAR TERM, COMMA, AT
10:39:54AM THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE, PERIOD.
10:39:56AM NO PERSON SHALL BE ELECTED TO THE OFFICE OF CHAIRPERSON OR
10:39:59AM VICE CHAIRPERSON FOR MORE THAN ONE CONSECUTIVE TERM.
10:40:06AM THIS POLICY SHALL EXCLUDE THE TERM OF THE YCDC AND EAST
10:40:09AM TAMPA CRA, WHICH ARE GOVERNED BY THEIR BYLAWS WHICH PRECEDED
10:40:14AM THIS POLICY.
10:40:15AM PERIOD.
10:40:16AM IN THE EVENT THERE ARE NO CANDIDATES TO THE CHAIR OR VICE
10:40:18AM CHAIR POSITIONS, COMMA, THE TERM LIMITATION MAY BE WAIVED BY
10:40:21AM THE CRA BOARD.
10:40:24AM PERIOD.
10:40:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
10:40:29AM DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:40:32AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:40:34AM ALL OPPOSED.
10:40:36AM MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:40:37AM >>JORGE MARTIN: AN AFTERTHOUGHT, AND I CHOSE TO DO IT AS AN
10:40:47AM AFTERTHOUGHT SO IT WOULDN'T COMPLICATE WHAT HAS NOW BEEN A
10:40:53AM COMPLETED MOTION, I WOULD ALSO ADD GIVEN THE INITIAL
10:40:56AM STATEMENTS BY THE CHAIR THAT A MOTION BE INCLUDED THAT MAKES
10:41:03AM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS POLICY
10:41:08AM PROSPECTIVE AND THAT ANY CURRENT OFFICER HOLDING THAT
10:41:11AM POSITION WILL BE ALLOWED TO TERMINATOR TO FINISH OUT THEIR
10:41:16AM ELECTIVE TERM.
10:41:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS MY INTENT OF MAKING THE ORIGINAL
10:41:20AM MOTION.
10:41:20AM HOWEVER, IF IT NEEDS TO BE SAID ON THE RECORD THAT ALL
10:41:24AM PRESENT --
10:41:25AM >>JORGE MARTIN: I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD MOTION TO MAKE
10:41:27AM AND IT COULD BE WRITTEN.
10:41:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD
10:41:35AM TO THAT MOTION JUST MADE?
10:41:37AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
10:41:38AM MAKE THAT MOTION AS STATED BY LEGAL COUNSEL.
10:41:42AM >> SECOND.
10:41:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED?
10:41:45AM MOTION PASSES.
10:41:46AM >>JORGE MARTIN: AND I WILL BE DRAFTING AND PRINTING THIS AS
10:41:53AM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:41:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:41:55AM SEE, WHAT WE CAN ALL DO TOGETHER WHEN WE HAVE GREAT
10:41:58AM DIALOGUE.
10:42:02AM I HAVE A COMMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE AT THE END OF THE
10:42:04AM MEETING.
10:42:04AM HOWEVER, ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR INFORMATION REPORTS?
10:42:14AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:42:19AM CONCERNING CRA.
10:42:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:42:25AM SO THE LAST MEETING, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU MADE A
10:42:37AM MOTION AND THE BOARD APPROVED TO HAVE, I THINK, A WORKSHOP
10:42:42AM ON THE DISCUSSION OF THE MANAGEMENT. CRAs BUT WE NEVER
10:42:44AM SET A DATE FOR IT.
10:42:46AM DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?
10:42:50AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:42:50AM AND WE LOOKED AT THE RECORD.
10:42:51AM THE TRANSCRIPT INDICATES 60 DAYS OUT.
10:42:54AM SO MY MOTION TO CLARIFY WOULD BE JULY 9th.
10:43:02AM OUR JULY 9th CRA MEETING, IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
10:43:05AM IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT OUT.
10:43:08AM IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT OUT TO AUGUST, THAT'S FINE WITH ME,
10:43:11AM TOO.
10:43:15AM OUR AUGUST DATE IS WHAT, MR. MCDONAUGH, DO YOU KNOW?
10:43:19AM >> AUGUST 8?
10:43:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:43:36AM AUGUST THE 8th.
10:43:37AM UNDER STAFF PRESENTATION.
10:43:39AM >> SO MOVED.
10:43:44AM >> SECOND.
10:43:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:43:47AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:50AM MOTION PASSES.
10:43:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALSO, I WANT TO INTRODUCE AN INTERN IN MY
10:43:56AM OFFICE, ELIZABETH DONEY, WHO IS FORDHAM STUDENT IN NEW YORK.
10:44:09AM SHE GREW UP HERE, WONDERFUL FAMILY, WONDERFUL PARENTS,
10:44:14AM GRADUATED MY HIGH SCHOOL AND IS GOING INTO HER JUNIOR YEAR
10:44:17AM AT FORDHAM, NEW YORK.
10:44:19AM SHE'S HERE TO HELP US THIS SUMMER.
10:44:21AM WELCOME.
10:44:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:44:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING, SIR.
10:44:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING SIR.
10:44:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING.
10:44:35AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I JUST RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM
10:44:38AM FROM MY AIDE THAT STATE REPRESENTATIVE DIANE HART WAS RUSHED
10:44:43AM TO THE HOSPITAL.
10:44:44AM DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT THIS TIME.
10:44:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE KEEP US INFORMED.
10:44:49AM ANYTHING FURTHER, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:44:51AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
10:44:53AM OUR BEST TO REPRESENTATIVE HART.
10:44:55AM >>JORGE MARTIN: BEFORE ADJOURNMENT I WOULD LIKE TO
10:45:00AM INTRODUCE, ASKED HIM TO DO A PRESENTATION TO YOU IN JULY,
10:45:10AM BUT IN AUGUST HE WILL NO LONGER BE WITH US.
10:45:15AM I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE HIM.
10:45:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
10:45:20AM >>JORGE MARTIN: WITH THE APPROVAL AND CONSENTED OF THE
10:45:26AM BOARD I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT HIS MEMORANDUM TO ME THROUGH
10:45:30AM THE BOARD FOR YOUR CONSUMPTION.
10:45:35AM HE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS
10:45:37AM THAT WERE RAISED BY THE CRA BOARD.
10:45:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WAS THIS ABOUT?
10:45:42AM >>JORGE MARTIN: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:45:48AM >> TERRY SHARP, LEGAL INTERN WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:46:09AM I GO TO LAW SCHOOL AT FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY.
10:46:12AM AND I AM SPENDING THE SUMMER HERE WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:46:15AM AND I HAVE HAD A GREAT TIME SO FAR.
10:46:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU KNOW CHRIS BERG AT FLORIDA STATE?
10:46:33AM I THINK HE'S IN -- OH, SECOND YEAR?
10:46:38AM IF YOU SEE A NICE GUY CHRIS BERG.
10:46:45AM I'M AN ATTORNEY MESAS IS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:46:47AM >> I'LL LOOK OUT FOR HIM.
10:46:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] ... AND I KNOW THAT
10:47:16AM COUNCILMAN GUDES GOES TO THESE MEETINGS.
10:47:18AM HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME LEGALITIES THAT I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL
10:47:22AM TO STATE TODAY IF HE COULD AND IF HE WOULD.
10:47:24AM >>JORGE MARTIN: IF YOU DON'T MIND, [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:48:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU HAVE A DATE THAT WE MAY ALLOT FOR
10:48:31AM TIME?
10:48:32AM >> AUGUST.
10:48:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE PLACE THAT
10:48:38AM YOU WANT DONE?
10:48:39AM >>JORGE MARTIN: [OFF MICROPHONE] THE OVERALL POLICIES FOR
10:48:48AM CAC, POLICIES OF OUR CRA, AND ADDRESS ISSUES CONCERNING CAC
10:49:04AM AND SUNSHINE LAW ...
10:49:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE A TIME?
10:49:37AM CAN WE MAKE IN THE JULY?
10:49:38AM I KNOW WE HAVE LIMITED TIME.
10:49:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COUNCIL, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE
10:49:45AM UNTIL THE END OF JULY.
10:49:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A CRA MEETING IN JULY.
10:49:51AM ALL RIGHT.
10:49:55AM AUGUST 8?
10:50:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME ASK.
10:50:03AM I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THIS JULY MEETING BECAUSE I THOUGHT
10:50:05AM WE WERE OFF THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF JULY.
10:50:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
10:50:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CRA MEETING IS ON THE 20th.
10:50:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING OWN THAT DATE?
10:50:21AM DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH JULY 25th?
10:50:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
10:50:31AM I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO ATTEND THE CAC MEETING JUST FOR THAT
10:50:35AM REASON BECAUSE I KNOW TWO OF US END UP AT ONE OF THOSE
10:50:39AM MEETINGS THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE A SUNSHINE ISSUE.
10:50:44AM HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THOSE.
10:50:47AM I WOULD LIKE MORE THAN ONE OF US TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THOSE.
10:50:51AM SO I WOULD ASK LEGAL COUNSEL IN ADDITION TO ADVISING US OF
10:50:55AM YOUR CONCERNS TO PERHAPS GIVE US ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU
10:50:59AM MIGHT HAVE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE SUNSHINE MEETINGS ANYWAY,
10:51:03AM BECAUSE THOSE BOARDS HAVE TO OPERATE IN THE SUNSHINE
10:51:06AM THEMSELVES.
10:51:06AM SO IF WE ATTEND, BUT JUST AS A SUGGESTION, SAL, PERHAPS
10:51:16AM DON'T PARTICIPATE, WE JUST ATTEND AS OBSERVERS AND LISTEN?
10:51:20AM MAYBE THAT COULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE SUNSHINE
10:51:23AM CONCERNS.
10:51:24AM I'M NOT TRYING TO SOLVE THAT TODAY.
10:51:25AM BUT I AM JUST THROWING IT OUT.
10:51:27AM >>SAL TERRITO: JUST AS A CAVEAT.
10:51:29AM >>JORGE MARTIN: THERE IS AN EXISTING POLICY -- [OFF
10:51:34AM MICROPHONE]
10:51:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I'LL MOVE THAT LEGAL COME BACK TO US
10:51:46AM WITH THESE ON JULY 25th WITH THIS INFORMATION AS WELL AS
10:51:51AM ANY DISCUSSION.
10:51:52AM YOU CAN PUT IT ANY WAY YOU WISH.
10:51:55AM >> I HAVE A MOTION BY --
10:51:59AM >>SAL TERRITO: THE ONE ISSUE THAT KEEPS COMING UP, AND ASK
10:52:05AM THAT YOU GO TO THEM BEFORE WE HAVE THIS MEETING, SOMETIMES
10:52:07AM BY HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER THERE, THEY DON'T FEEL AS FREE AS
10:52:10AM THEY LIKE TO BE IN HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE HAVE HAD
10:52:13AM IN THE PAST WHERE SOME OF THE COUNCILMEN -- AND I AM NOT
10:52:16AM SAYING THIS GROUP -- HAVE TAKEN OVER THE MEETING AS CHAIR
10:52:18AM AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.
10:52:19AM BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE TO ADVISE YOU AND NOT TO TAKE WHAT YOU
10:52:24AM THINK SHOULD BE GOING ON.
10:52:25AM SO IF YOU ARE SITTING THERE AND NOT SAYING ANYTHING, THAT'S
10:52:28AM PERFECTLY FINE.
10:52:28AM BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY, AND THAT IS A
10:52:32AM CAUSATIVE ISSUE IN THE PAST WITH SOME OF THE GROUPS. THEY
10:52:35AM FEEL SOMEWHAT INTIMIDATED BY HAVING YOU THERE.
10:52:37AM AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
10:52:39AM >>BOB MCDONAUGH: WE HAD A PROCESS ONCE UPON A TIME THAT WE
10:52:46AM WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY A CALLED MEETING AT EACH OF THE
10:52:49AM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, AND THE BOARD WOULD ATTEND, IT COULD BE
10:52:53AM DONE IN THE EVENING, AND THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
10:52:58AM CRA BOARD THEN TO HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:53:01AM WE DID THAT ABOUT EVERY FOUR OR SIX MONTHS.
10:53:04AM AND IT ROTATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:53:07AM IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN
10:53:10AM IN JUNE, IF THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU MIGHT LIKE TO CONSIDER.
10:53:14AM BUT THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL ISSUE OF ONE OR MORE
10:53:22AM BOARD MEMBERS OR SUNSHINE THING.
10:53:23AM IT'S A CALLED MEETING AND IT'S IN THE PUBLIC VENUE, AND IT'S
10:53:26AM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO HEAR WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY SAYS.
10:53:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:53:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE HAD A POLICY, I DON'T ATTEND ANY
10:53:38AM OF THEM, NOT BECAUSE OF ME BUT THE POSITION THAT I HOLD.
10:53:42AM AND THE FURTHER I STAY AWAY THE BETTER IT IS.
10:53:45AM WHEN I SEE THEM HERE I GET THE SAME INFORMATION I WOULD GET
10:53:47AM THERE.
10:53:48AM BUT THE PRESENCE OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL BEING THERE,
10:53:50AM WHOEVER, AND THIS IS JUST TO ME, NOT ANYBODY ELSE, I JUST
10:53:53AM DON'T ATTEND.
10:53:56AM I DON'T WANT TO CANCEL ANYBODY'S OPINION OR QUELL SOMEBODY'S
10:53:58AM COMMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:54:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] I HAVE NO EX PARTE
10:54:09AM COMMUNICATION AS FAR AS BUDGETS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:54:13AM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY
10:54:17AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:54:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:54:20AM OPPOSED?
10:54:21AM MOTION PASSES.
10:54:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:54:25AM >> SECOND.
10:54:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10:54:29AM I'M SORRY, I AM TRYING TO GET YOU GUYS OUT OF HERE.
10:54:31AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:54:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:54:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:54:35AM ALL RIGHT.
10:54:36AM ALL OPPOSED?
10:54:37AM MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
10:54:38AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:54:40AM
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