CITY OF TAMPA
THURSDAY, AUGUST 22, 2019
9:00 A.M. MEETING
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09:02:35 >>LUIS VIERA: -- IS CALLED IN SESSION.
09:02:36 INVOCATION, PLEASE.
09:02:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:02:40 MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE A GENTLEMAN
09:02:42 THAT AT ONE TIME WAS A GOOD CITY EMPLOYEE.
09:02:45 NOW HE'S JUST A GOOD GUY.
09:02:47 THAT GENTLEMAN, HE MAKES GREAT PRAYERS.
09:02:52 THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM TO COME BACK.
09:02:53 MR. STEVE MICHELINI.
09:02:55 PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR
09:03:00 THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:03:00 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, AND VISITORS TO
09:03:03 THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:03:05 DEAR LORD, PRAYER DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANY
09:03:10 COLOR, RACE, GENDER, NATIONALITY OR CREED.
09:03:14 DEAR LORD, WE HUMBLY BESEECH YOU IN YOUR GOOD AND
09:03:18 GREATNESS.
09:03:19 WE'RE REMINDED OF THOSE WHO SACRIFICE SO MUCH FOR ALL OF
09:03:22 US.
09:03:23 PRAYER IS BOTH A PRIVATE AND A PUBLIC AVENUE OF HOPE,
09:03:26 STRENGTH, WISDOM, AND COMPASSION.
09:03:29 FOR EVERY LOCATION IS A HOUSE OF PRAYER.
09:03:33 EVERY SOUL IS A VESSEL OF THE LORD'S GRACE.
09:03:36 PRAYER IS THE WORLD OF TRUTH, OF POWER, GREATER THAN ALL
09:03:41 OF US.
09:03:42 IT COMPLETES THE CIRCUIT.
09:03:43 THOSE WHO PRAY DO MORE FOR THE WORLD THAN ANY OTHER
09:03:46 ACTION.
09:03:47 EVERY CHALLENGE, EVERY STRUGGLE, EVERY OBJECTIVE, EVERY
09:03:50 GOAL SHOULD INCLUDE A HEARTFELT PRAYER.
09:03:53 WE RESPECTFULLY SEEK THE LORD'S BLESSING UPON THE
09:03:56 TEACHERS IN THEIR FIRST WEEK AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR
09:03:59 COMMITMENT AND SACRIFICES FOR OUR CHILDREN.
09:04:02 PLEASE BLESS AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
09:04:05 TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR ARMED FORCES, AND THE QUIET
09:04:09 ONES WHO ARE THERE WHEN THEY ARE NEEDED AND THE UNSUNG
09:04:14 HEROES THROWN INTO DIFFICULT CONDITIONS AND YET THEY
09:04:17 PERFORM.
09:04:17 PRAY ALONE, PRAY WITH OTHERS, PRAY AT NIGHT.
09:04:20 PRAY IN THE DAY.
09:04:21 PRAY ON ALL AND EVERY OCCASION.
09:04:23 PLANS, WORK, AND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES MUST INCLUDE
09:04:27 PRAYER.
09:04:28 STRENGTH AND SUCCESS RELY UPON PRAYER AND THE GOOD LORD
09:04:31 IS NEVER FAR BEHIND.
09:04:34 TRUST IN THE LORD AND BE THANKFUL FOR THE BOUNTIFUL GIFTS
09:04:37 OF HIS GRATEFUL PEOPLE.
09:04:38 WE SEEK YOUR SHIELD TO PROTECT US FROM HARM AND DANGER.
09:04:42 WE SEEK YOUR STRENGTH TO SUSTAIN US WHEN WE ARE WEAK.
09:04:45 WE SEEK YOUR WISDOM TO ASSIST US TO FIND GOOD SOLUTIONS.
09:04:48 WE SEEK YOUR FAITH TO MAINTAIN OUR CORRECT AND HONORABLE
09:04:52 DIRECTION.
09:04:52 IN YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.
09:05:02 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:05:07 >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:05:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:05:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:05:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:12 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:05:15 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:16 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:16 OKAY.
09:05:19 A COUPLE OF ISSUES -- ACTUALLY, STRIKE THAT.
09:05:23 MAY I HAVE SOMEONE MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND
09:05:26 THE ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.
09:05:27 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:05:29 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:05:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:05:33 ANY OPPOSED?
09:05:34 OKAY.
09:05:35 A COUPLE OF THINGS, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE STAFF
09:05:40 YESTERDAY BECAUSE I WE HAVE A LITTLE LONGER AGENDA.
09:05:43 WE WERE PLANNING ON BREAKING AROUND 12:30 FOR ABOUT
09:05:47 45-MINUTE OR SO LUNCH.
09:05:48 IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY?
09:05:50 AND THEN I BELIEVE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO GOT MY
09:05:56 PROPOSED RESOLUTION ON THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
09:05:59 HAS EVERYBODY GOTTEN A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT?
09:06:02 JUST MAKING SURE IN TERMS OF THE 19th AMENDMENT.
09:06:05 WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:06:06 JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
09:06:08 FIRST, WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND/OR
09:06:14 PRESENTATIONS.
09:06:17 NUMBER ONE IS PRESENTATION BY APPLICANTS.
09:06:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE DO -- I
09:06:25 APOLOGIZE FOR THIS.
09:06:26 I JUST NOTICED ON ITEM 84, WHICH STAFF REQUESTED TO
09:06:32 CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 26th, THIS WAS THE ISSUE ABOUT
09:06:39 IMPACT FEES AS RELATED TO WATER AND WASTEWATER.
09:06:42 THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP, AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, I SAID
09:06:45 THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION NEEDS TO HELP PAY FOR ITSELF IN
09:06:50 MANY WAYS AS RELATED TO UTILITIES.
09:06:53 I'M NOT SURE ABOUT SEPTEMBER 26th.
09:06:57 I'M CURIOUS OF WHEN WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE WATER RATE,
09:07:05 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THIS ITEM NEEDS TO GO TO.
09:07:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THEY ARE REQUESTING SEPTEMBER --
09:07:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 26 IS WHAT IT SAYS ON OUR ADDENDUM.
09:07:17 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DEAL WITH
09:07:21 --
09:07:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN DO IT UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND
09:07:23 SWITCH IT THEN.
09:07:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO PREFERENCE ON DATES MYSELF.
09:07:26 I DEFER TO YOU AND STAFF.
09:07:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REMINDER TO COUNCIL, THAT BY APPROVING
09:07:33 THE ADDENDUM, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING WHAT'S ON THE
09:07:36 ADDENDUM, ONLY APPROVING THE ITEMS TO THE AGENDA.
09:07:40 THAT ITEM WILL STILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN UP.
09:07:43 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:07:46 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:07:49 WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS VYING FOR POSITION ON THE CODE
09:07:54 ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
09:07:55 THE FIRST APPLICANT IS RANDY JACKSON.
09:08:09 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS RANDY
09:08:11 JACKSON.
09:08:11 I'M CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT
09:08:14 BOARD, FORMERLY TERMED CODE ENFORCEMENT.
09:08:16 MY INITIAL TERM IS ENDING AND I AM REQUESTING
09:08:20 REAPPOINTMENT.
09:08:21 A LITTLE MORE THAN THREE YEARS AGO, AS I REQUESTED MY
09:08:24 INITIAL APPOINTMENT, I QUOTED PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON,
09:08:27 QUOTE, THE CARE OF HUMAN LIFE AND HAPPINESS AND NOT THEIR
09:08:32 DESTRUCTION IS THE FIRST AND ONLY OBJECT OF GOOD
09:08:36 GOVERNMENT.
09:08:37 SINCE THAT TIME, I CAN ASSURE THE CITY COUNCIL THE PUBLIC
09:08:41 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD HAS DONE ITS PART TO ENSURE GOOD
09:08:44 GOVERNMENT BY PROMOTING, PROTECTING AND IMPROVING THE
09:08:47 HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:08:49 THE BOARD, IN MY OPINION, HAS AND CONTINUES TO USE
09:08:54 REASONABLE, EQUITABLE, EXPEDITIOUS AND EFFECTIVE REMEDIES
09:08:58 TO NUISANCE ISSUES AND REPRESENTS THE INTEREST OF TAMPA
09:09:03 IN THE BEST WAYS POSSIBLE.
09:09:05 NOW, LET ME PIVOT FROM SPEAKING ABOUT THE BOARD AND TALK
09:09:09 A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF.
09:09:11 OVER THE SPAN OF THE LAST 18 YEARS I'VE RESIDED IN TAMPA
09:09:15 FOR 12, FROM 2000-2003 I LIVED IN BEACH PARK AREA OF
09:09:20 SOUTH TAMPA.
09:09:21 FROM 2009 UNTIL PRESENT I MAKE MY HOME IN HARBOR GREEN
09:09:25 SUBDIVISION OF NEW TAMPA.
09:09:27 I'M RETIRED MILITARY OFFICER AND FORMER PILOT.
09:09:29 I AM EMPLOYED BY THE UNITED STATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS
09:09:31 COMMAND WHERE I AM CHIEF OF MISSION PREPARATION.
09:09:34 MY JOB WITH CENTCOM INVOLVES SPONSORING AND ADVOCATING
09:09:39 TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER MEASURES TO KEEP SERVICE MEMBERS
09:09:41 SAFE AND EFFECTIVE ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
09:09:44 MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M A FATHER OF TWO INCREDIBLE SONS.
09:09:47 MY ELDEST IS A SENIOR AT BROOKS DeBARTOLO COLLEGIATE,
09:09:53 AND MY YOUNGEST IS A SECOND GRADER AT LUTZ PREPARATORY
09:09:56 SCHOOL.
09:09:57 THEY ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF MY EXISTENCE, AND THEY ARE
09:10:01 WHY I WORK VERY HARD IN EVERYTHING I DO.
09:10:03 HAVING THAT BACK DROP I AM APPLYING FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO
09:10:09 THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
09:10:12 HERE ARE THE THREE REASONS.
09:10:13 NUMBER ONE, GIVING BACK.
09:10:14 I ENJOY BEING INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY AND GIVING BACK.
09:10:17 IN ADDITION TO SAID BOARD MEMBERSHIP, I VOLUNTEER AT MY
09:10:22 SONS' SCHOOLS IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES AND IN SCOUTING WITH
09:10:25 MY YOUNGEST SON'S CUB SCOUT PACK.
09:10:29 NUMBER TWO, MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
09:10:30 I BELIEVE I'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN EACH CASE BROUGHT
09:10:33 BEFORE THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD OVER THE PAST
09:10:35 THREE YEARS.
09:10:36 I ADD A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE BASED ON MY BACKGROUND
09:10:39 EXPERIENCES AND COMMUNITIES IN WHICH I WORK AND LIVE.
09:10:41 I AM ALSO ONE OF TWO BOARD MEMBERS EDUCATED IN THE FIELD
09:10:44 OF LAW.
09:10:46 NUMBER THREE, CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.
09:10:48 I AM AN EXAMPLE FOR MY TWO SONS, SHOWING POSITIVE ACTION
09:10:51 AND ATTITUDE TOWARD DEMOCRATIC GOVERNANCE.
09:10:55 AS NON-TV WATCHERS, THEY DERIVE SOCIAL BEHAVIORS AND HOW
09:10:59 TO INTERACT WITHIN THE SOCIAL ENVIRONMENTS PREDOMINANTLY
09:11:02 THROUGH ME.
09:11:03 AS I GET OLDER, IT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT TIME IS OUR
09:11:08 MOST PRECIOUS COMMODITY.
09:11:10 WITH MY TIME I TRY TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON MY SONS, WHERE I
09:11:13 WORK AND THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH I LIVE.
09:11:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:11:17 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:11:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIR, QUICK QUESTION.
09:11:24 I APOLOGIZE.
09:11:26 DID YOU MENTION WHAT YOU DO PROFESSIONALLY?
09:11:28 >> I WORK AT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND ON MACDILL AIR
09:11:30 FORCE BASE.
09:11:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:11:33 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:11:34 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, MR. JACKSON.
09:11:36 THE NEXT APPLICANT IS CAROL RODRIGUEZ.
09:11:40 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SHE'S HERE.
09:11:44 YOU HAVE BALLOTS, IF YOU CAN COMPLETE YOUR BALLOT.
09:11:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S ONLY ONE POSITION?
09:11:50 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IT'S ONE POSITION, YES.
09:11:53 WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO ON TO THE SECOND ONE WHILE YOU'RE
09:12:06 COMPLETING YOUR BALLOT?
09:12:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
09:12:08 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: OKAY.
09:12:09 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:12:11 WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS FOR THE EBOAC, EQUAL BUSINESS
09:12:27 OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL.
09:12:28 THE FIRST PERSON IS ROSIE PAULSEN.
09:12:42 [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
09:12:44 >>LUIS VIERA: I SEE, THANK YOU.
09:12:45 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
09:12:49 >> MY NAME IS ROSIE PAULSEN.
09:12:52 I HAVE LIVED IN FLORIDA SINCE 1988.
09:12:55 MY FAMILY AND I MOVED FROM ECUADOR.
09:12:57 I CONSIDER MYSELF A NATURALIZED TAMPANIAN BECAUSE I'VE
09:13:04 BEEN LIVING HERE ALMOST 31 YEARS.
09:13:06 I'M MARRIED TO MY WONDERFUL HUSBAND, SCOTT, FOR 13 YEARS.
09:13:09 I'M THE MOTHER OF THREE ADULT CHILDREN.
09:13:13 WE CAME TO THE UNITED STATES TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM
09:13:16 AND, OH, I HAVE LIVED THAT DREAM.
09:13:18 I HAVE STARTED THREE COMPANIES AND I SOLD ONE.
09:13:22 IN 2015, I DECIDED TO OPEN MY LATEST ADVENTURE CALLED
09:13:27 ROSIE PAULSEN ENTERPRISES WHERE I PASSIONATELY HELP SMALL
09:13:33 BUSINESS OWNERS SUCCEED.
09:13:34 ONE OF MY THINGS I TEACH MY ATTENDEES AND FOLLOWERS IS
09:13:38 THEY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT AND GIVE BACK.
09:13:41 THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS
09:13:44 TODAY.
09:13:45 I HAVE SERVED IN MANY LEADERSHIP POSITIONS BUT MY LATEST
09:13:49 ACCOMPLISHMENT IS THAT I AM A COMMISSIONER FOR THE
09:13:51 FLORIDA COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN, AND I HAVE
09:13:54 BEEN APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT BILL GALVANO FROM THE SENATE.
09:13:58 I HAVE A FOLLOWING OF ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE.
09:14:03 I HAVE CREATED THIS MOVEMENT CALLED "WHERE IS ROSIE."
09:14:07 EVERY MORNING PEOPLE GET UP AND WONDER WHERE IS ROSIE.
09:14:12 TODAY THEY FIND OUT I WAS AT CITY COUNCIL.
09:14:15 I DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED, FIRST OF ALL, MR. CARLSON PUT
09:14:18 A POST ON Facebook, WHICH IS VERY POWERFUL, AND
09:14:21 REALIZED THAT THE CITY HAD A VACANCY FOR THE HISPANIC
09:14:24 AMERICAN POSITION SINCE 2015.
09:14:28 I FIGURED SINCE I NOW LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHY NOT
09:14:32 GIVE BACK?
09:14:33 MY NAME IS ROSIE PAULSEN.
09:14:35 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING ME.
09:14:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
09:14:45 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS CHRISTOPHER
09:14:48 "TOPHER" MORRISON.
09:14:53 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:14:54 MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER MORRISON.
09:14:57 EVERYBODY KNOWS ME AS TOPHER, THOUGH.
09:14:59 I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
09:15:01 I LIKE TO SAY I'M A TAMPA NATIVE.
09:15:03 TOOK ME 30 YEARS TO FIND MY CITY.
09:15:05 I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE THE PAST 20 YEARS.
09:15:08 IN MY 20s AND 30s I WAS COMMITTED TO HELPING PEOPLE
09:15:12 IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIVES AND I WAS IN PERSONAL
09:15:14 DEVELOPMENT.
09:15:15 30s AND 40s I TRANSITIONED INTO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
09:15:19 I GOT OUT OF PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT AND HELPED COMPANIES
09:15:21 IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THEIR COMPANIES.
09:15:23 IN MY 50s, I WANT TO EXPAND THAT INFLUENCE AND HELP THE
09:15:26 CITY TO BECOME BETTER.
09:15:28 MY FIRST ADVENTURE FOR THAT WAS TO RUN FOR MAYOR OF
09:15:31 TAMPA.
09:15:31 WHILE I DIDN'T WIN, I CAN TELL YOU I SUPPORT JANE CASTOR
09:15:35 WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND I'M HERE TO MAKE SURE SHE SUCCEEDS IN
09:15:37 EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.
09:15:39 I WOULD STILL LIKE TO COMMIT MY SERVICE TO THIS
09:15:41 COMMITTEE.
09:15:42 DURING MY CAMPAIGN, I SHUT MY BUSINESS DOWN.
09:15:46 I DID NOT WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I WAS TRYING TO RUN FOR
09:15:48 OFFICE JUST TO PROMOTE MY COMPANY.
09:15:50 TO ELIMINATE THAT, I SHUT MY COMPANY DOWN.
09:15:53 I HAVE RETAINED EIGHT CLIENTS THAT ALLOW ME TO PAY MY
09:15:56 BILLS AND WORK ABOUT FOUR DAYS A MONTH.
09:15:58 THAT ALLOWS ME A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO GIVE BACK TO THE
09:16:01 CITY.
09:16:02 I WANT TO COMMIT MY TIME AND ENERGY TO MAKE SURE TAMPA
09:16:05 BECOMES THE BEST IT CAN POSSIBLY BE.
09:16:08 THANK YOU.
09:16:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:16:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TOPHER, I HOPE YOU'RE NOT IGNORING
09:16:11 YOUR DOG.
09:16:12 >> SHE'S AT HOME FRANTICALLY PANICKED THAT I'M NEVER
09:16:16 COMING BACK.
09:16:16 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:16:17 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, BY THE WAY, I'VE APPLIED FOR
09:16:20 MULTIPLE COMMITTEES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALLOWED.
09:16:23 BUT I WANTED TO JUST TELL YOU I'M HAPPY TO BE APPOINTED
09:16:26 TO ANYTHING YOU SEE FIT.
09:16:28 MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, THOUGH.
09:16:31 THANK YOU.
09:16:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL HAVE LEGAL BACK ME UP ON THIS.
09:16:40 SERVING ON ONE QUASI-JUDICIAL COMMITTEE AT A TIME.
09:16:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS ONE IS AN ADVISORY BOARD.
09:16:47 EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE YOU SUBMITTED APPLICATION FOR TWO
09:16:51 POSITIONS TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:16:52 >> I BELIEVE THERE WERE THREE.
09:16:54 BUT I'M HERE TO SERVE IN ANY WAY YOU SEE FIT.
09:16:58 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:17:02 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:17:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:17:06 ANY OPPOSED?
09:17:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT'S FOR BOTH
09:17:10 POSITIONS.
09:17:14 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
09:17:15 GOING BACK TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC NUISANCE
09:17:17 ABATEMENT BOARD, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT GAINED THAT POSITION
09:17:24 IS RANDY JACKSON.
09:17:29 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:17:29 NEXT WE HAVE THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
09:17:36 WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS FOR ONE POSITION, AND THAT'S AN
09:17:41 ALTERNATE POSITION.
09:17:45 JONATHAN GODWIN.
09:17:46 IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE'S HERE.
09:17:50 THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL IS LEE LOWRY.
09:17:53 TOPHER MORRISON.
09:18:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, THIS IS FOR THE
09:18:08 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
09:18:11 BECAUSE HE'S ON THE EBOAC BOARD, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO
09:18:18 SERVE ON A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD.
09:18:21 LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
09:18:31 >> I SAID WHAT I NEED TO.
09:18:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
09:18:35 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS RECOGNIZED.
09:18:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MORRISON.
09:18:40 TOPHER, I ASSUME -- I'LL ASSUME THAT YOU'VE WATCHED THE
09:18:44 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD PERIODICALLY.
09:18:48 >> OCCASIONALLY.
09:18:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OCCASIONALLY.
09:18:52 DO YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR FEELINGS ABOUT THE VRB AND ANY
09:18:56 PHILOSOPHY ABOUT LAND USE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHARE
09:18:59 WITH US?
09:19:01 >> I'M NOT TOO SURE IF THE TREES FALL UNDER THE VARIANCE
09:19:05 REVIEW BOARD.
09:19:07 I HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT THAT.
09:19:08 I THINK THE TREE MATRIX FOR THE CITY IS VASTLY LIMITED
09:19:12 ONLY ALLOWING CRAPE MYRTLE PALMS -- CRAPE MYRTLES AND
09:19:22 PALM TREES.
09:19:23 I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALLOWING THE CITY, THE
09:19:25 DOWNTOWN AREA TO ALLOW MORE TREES THAT PROVIDE BETTER
09:19:28 WALKABLE SHADE.
09:19:29 THAT'S ONE THING I'M DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT.
09:19:31 I ALSO THINK OUR -- ARE PARKING MINIMUMS PART OF THE
09:19:35 VARIANCE BOARD?
09:19:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:19:42 >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE BEFORE SPEAKING, DO ASK TO BE
09:19:44 RECOGNIZED SO WE CAN MAINTAIN ORDER.
09:19:46 THANK YOU.
09:19:46 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL IS SAMANTHA
09:19:51 WALKER.
09:19:58 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:19:58 MY NAME IS SAMANTHA WALKER, AND I AM SEEKING AN
09:20:02 APPOINTMENT TO THE VACANCY ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD
09:20:04 THIS MORNING.
09:20:05 AS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY HERE IN TAMPA, I
09:20:09 FEEL I HAVE THE SKILL SET NECESSARY TO COMPETENTLY AND
09:20:12 SUCCESSFULLY SERVE IN THIS ROLE.
09:20:13 MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WAS
09:20:16 THIS PAST OCTOBER WHEN I ATTENDED A MEETING IN
09:20:18 ANTICIPATION OF REPRESENTING A CLIENT THE FOLLOWING
09:20:20 MONTH.
09:20:21 I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE REVIEW AND
09:20:25 THE DISCUSSION OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
09:20:27 REVIEWING 20 APPLICATIONS IN ONE EVENING MAY NOT SOUND
09:20:30 LIKE A LOT, AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN CITRO
09:20:36 CAN ATTEST, THE MEETINGS RUN INTO THE WEE HOURS OF THE
09:20:40 MORNING.
09:20:41 AS A BOARD THAT DEALS WITH INDIVIDUAL TAMPANIANS, I THINK
09:20:44 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO LOGICALLY EXPLAIN THE
09:20:49 STEPS TO REACH A DECISION.
09:20:51 MY EXPERIENCE GAVE ME AN UNDERSTANDING AND A GREATER
09:20:54 APPRECIATION FOR BOTH THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE DEMANDS OF
09:20:56 THIS BOARD, WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE REASON THAT I SHOULD
09:20:59 BE APPOINTED.
09:21:00 AS I MENTIONED, I'M A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY.
09:21:02 DAY TO DAY, I REVIEW SURVEYS AND SITE PLANS AND SITE
09:21:06 ELEVATIONS, DOCUMENTS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE
09:21:11 SUBMITTED WITH MANY VARIANCE APPLICATIONS.
09:21:13 I'VE LEARNED HOW TO UNDERSTAND AND READ AND INTERPRET
09:21:16 THESE DOCUMENTS.
09:21:17 BUT A MAJORITY OF MY TIME IS SPENT ADVISING CLIENTS, BOTH
09:21:21 LAY PEOPLE AND SOPHISTICATED DEVELOPERS AS TO HOW THEIR
09:21:26 PARTICULAR FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES FALL WITHIN A LAW OR A
09:21:29 STATUTE OR A CONTRACT.
09:21:30 MY JOB HAS TAUGHT ME TO THINK CRITICALLY AND ASK THE KIND
09:21:35 OF QUESTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO DRAW THE CORRECT
09:21:38 CONCLUSION.
09:21:38 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, THIS MATCHES EXACTLY WHAT THE
09:21:42 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DOES, WHICH IS TO REVIEW A
09:21:45 PARTICULAR SET OF FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND DETERMINE
09:21:48 WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED PRACTICAL
09:21:51 DIFFICULTIES OR UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP SUCH THAT THE
09:21:54 VARIANCE CAN BE GRANTED.
09:21:56 I FEEL THAT I'M PARTICULARLY WELL-SUITED FOR THIS
09:21:59 POSITION, BASED ON MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER.
09:22:03 FINALLY, ALTHOUGH I HAVE THE SKILLS THAT COMPLEMENT THE
09:22:06 SKILLS NECESSARY TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, I DON'T SEE ANY
09:22:09 POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN THIS POSITION AND MY LEGAL
09:22:13 PRACTICE.
09:22:13 TO WRAP THINGS UP, BOTH MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE
09:22:17 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AS
09:22:20 AN ATTORNEY MAKE ME UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO SERVE IN THIS
09:22:25 POSITION.
09:22:25 I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING MY CIVIC DUTY AS A MEMBER OF
09:22:29 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND I HUMBLY REQUEST YOUR
09:22:33 APPOINTMENT.
09:22:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. WALKER, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING
09:22:41 FORTH YOUR NAME.
09:22:41 I HAVE ONE COMMENT AND ONE QUESTION.
09:22:43 STATING THE OBVIOUS -- AND MR. SHELBY CAN CONFIRM THIS --
09:22:48 YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BRING ANY OTHER CLIENTS TO THE
09:22:50 VRB.
09:22:52 YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE THOSE TO OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR FIRM
09:22:55 AND PROBABLY RECUSE YOURSELF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
09:22:58 >> UNDERSTOOD.
09:22:59 LAND USE LAW IS NOT SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH A LOT.
09:23:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT A BIG PART OF YOUR PRACTICE.
09:23:04 >> NOT AT ALL.
09:23:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S MY COMMENT.
09:23:06 MY QUESTION IS THIS, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
09:23:09 YOU'VE WATCHED COUNCILMAN CITRO AND MYSELF.
09:23:12 THE WHOLE BOARD IS FAMILIAR WITH THE HARDSHIP CONCEPT,
09:23:14 WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS BLACK AND WHITE.
09:23:16 IT'S OFTEN GRAY.
09:23:18 I'M JUST WONDERING YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF
09:23:22 JUDGING THAT.
09:23:24 OF COURSE, IN LAW, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF GRAY.
09:23:28 >> YES, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL I'M
09:23:32 PARTICULARLY WELL SUITED TO ADDRESS.
09:23:34 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE BOARD GIVE DUE
09:23:39 CONSIDERATION TO EVERYONE WHO PRESENTS BEFORE THEM.
09:23:41 I THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO SORT OF PULL OUT
09:23:45 THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND APPLY THEM TO THE LAW.
09:23:50 ONE THING THAT I HOPE TO DO ON THE BOARD IS TO MAKE SURE
09:23:56 THAT THE PERSON PRESENTING, WE'RE NOT JUDGING THEM BASED
09:23:59 ON THE QUALITY OF THEIR PRESENTATION BUT RATHER ON THE
09:24:01 QUALITY OF THE FACTS THAT ARE PRESENTED BEFORE US.
09:24:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:24:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:24:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR UNDERSTANDING.
09:24:08 THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED TO
09:24:11 THE BOARD, THAT THEIR DECISION SHOULD BE BASED ON.
09:24:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHEN I WAS AT OGDEN
09:24:21 SULLIVAN ALMOST TEN YEARS AND ON THE CIVIL SERVICE REVIEW
09:24:24 BOARD FOR A WHILE, FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS OR SO BEFORE I GOT
09:24:27 ON CITY COUNCIL.
09:24:28 I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE A BILLABLE REQUIREMENT.
09:24:32 I STILL KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE.
09:24:34 LESS OF A BILLABLE REQUIREMENT BUT STILL KNOW WHAT THAT'S
09:24:37 LIKE.
09:24:37 I SALUTE YOU FOR ENDEAVORING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW
09:24:41 THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
09:24:43 >> THANK YOU.
09:24:47 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, MS. WALKER.
09:24:50 COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A BALLOT.
09:25:08 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, ME MOVE ONWARD TO NUMBER 4, A
09:25:13 PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO
09:25:16 MS. GREEN.
09:25:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY DEAR LADY, COME ON UP.
09:25:46 MR. CHAIRMAN AND ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES, MS. LENA YOUNG
09:26:00 GREEN, WHAT CAN I SAY?
09:26:00 A PERSON WHO HAS WORKED IN THE LEGISLATURE BEFORE, A
09:26:00 PERSON WHO IS COMMITTED TO COMMUNITY.
09:26:02 I FIRST MET HER AND HER HUSBAND, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
09:26:06 WE TRIED TO FOSTER GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LITTLE
09:26:09 LEAGUE FOOTBALL PROGRAMS AND THINGS SHE DOES FOR THE
09:26:13 COMMUNITY OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
09:26:15 SHE'S GROWN.
09:26:16 SHE'S BEEN A FOCAL POINT OF THAT COMMUNITY.
09:26:21 THE GARDEN SHE'S HELPING THE KIDS WITH, THE MURAL ON THE
09:26:26 STREETS.
09:26:27 TAMPA HEIGHTS JUNIOR LEAGUE WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE YOU
09:26:29 WORK WITH EVERY DAY.
09:26:33 JUST A ROLE MODEL TO PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMITMENT
09:26:37 TO COMMUNITY.
09:26:38 COUNCIL, IN 1984 MS. LENA YOUNG GREEN JOINED THE TAMPA
09:26:44 HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
09:26:45 BELIZE NATIVE, HAS ORGANIZED NEIGHBORS AND PRESSURED CITY
09:26:48 OFFICIALS FOR SAFE STREETS, PARTICIPATION, AND
09:26:50 REDEVELOPMENT OF TAMPA'S OLDEST NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:26:53 FROM '84 TO 2000, MS. YOUNG GREEN WORKED AS A SENIOR
09:26:58 LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT TO FORMER STATE SENATOR JAMES T.
09:27:01 HARKEN.
09:27:02 SHE NETWORKED WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OFFICIALS,
09:27:05 PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND VARIOUS STATE AGENCIES.
09:27:07 SHE CURRENTLY SERVES ON TAMPA'S ENTERPRISE ZONE
09:27:10 DEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND ALSO ACTS AS DIRECTOR OF
09:27:12 GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR INSTITUTE OF RESEARCH, EVALUATION
09:27:15 AND POLICY ANALYSIS.
09:27:16 GOVERNMENT, EDUCATION, NONPROFIT AGENCIES ON PUBLIC
09:27:21 POLICY AND GRANT WRITING.
09:27:23 HER LATEST PROJECT IS THE TAMPA HEIGHTS JUNIOR CIVIC
09:27:26 ASSOCIATION, WHICH SHE FOUNDED IN 1998.
09:27:31 BY COMBINING GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE WITH GRASSROOTS
09:27:34 ORGANIZING, MS. YOUNG GREEN HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN
09:27:38 REVITALIZING TAMPA HEIGHTS, AND THAT'S SO VERY TRUE,
09:27:43 GENTLEMEN.
09:27:44 FOR 24 YEARS, SHE HAS PUSHED FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT
09:27:46 AND A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT SETS HIGH STANDARDS FOR ANY
09:27:49 BUILDING PROJECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:27:50 THE FIRST IN TAMPA.
09:27:53 PLAN LED TO THE AMBITIOUS PROJECT, THE HEIGHTS.
09:27:56 $500 MILLION URBAN VILLAGE, RESIDENCE AND SHOPS ALONG THE
09:28:02 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
09:28:02 I HAVE TO SAY THE CHURCH, I THINK THAT'S MY MOST JOY, THE
09:28:08 CHURCH RIGHT THERE.
09:28:09 YOU'VE DONE A HECK OF A JOB GETTING THAT RESTORED.
09:28:12 I SALUTE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE.
09:28:20 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:28:20 THANK YOU, MS. GREEN.
09:28:30 SAY A FEW WORDS.
09:28:33 >> THIS IS A GREAT HONOR FOR ME TO ACCEPT THIS
09:28:39 COMMENDATION, BUT NOT SO MUCH ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AS ON
09:28:46 BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE WORK THAT WE DO EVERY
09:28:50 DAY, THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THE WORK
09:28:53 THAT WE STILL HAVE TO DO.
09:28:56 I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE AS OUR
09:29:02 LEADERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP US, COMMUNITY-BASED
09:29:08 INDIVIDUALS IN ACHIEVING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED
09:29:10 TO DO IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
09:29:14 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAY, IF NOT US, THEN WHO?
09:29:19 AND SO WE GET UP EVERY DAY AND WE DO THE WORK WE HAVE TO
09:29:22 DO.
09:29:23 ONE OF THE BIGGEST JOYS OF MY FAMILY AND I, BECAUSE WE
09:29:29 CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE A SERVICE FAMILY IS WE HAVE TO
09:29:32 HELP DIRECT, GUIDE, AND INFLUENCE THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
09:29:36 THEY ARE OUR TOMORROW.
09:29:39 AND IF WE DON'T HELP THEM BECOME THE BEST CIVIC-MINDED
09:29:45 CITIZENS, THEN WE CANNOT COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT TOMORROW
09:29:49 BECOMES.
09:29:49 SO THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION.
09:29:52 THANK YOU FOR THE IMPACT THAT THIS WILL SEND TO OTHERS TO
09:29:57 COME AND -- AND JOIN US IN ALL THE WORK WE DO.
09:30:04 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR RECOGNITION SO
09:30:07 MUCH.
09:30:07 THANK YOU TO MY SON WHO IS HERE, MY GRANDDAUGHTER WHO IS
09:30:12 HERE.
09:30:13 SHE'S NOW FOLLOWING MY PATH.
09:30:14 WORKING WITHIN THE JUNIOR CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS OUR
09:30:17 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND AGAIN WORKING TO INFLUENCE
09:30:21 TOMORROW'S LEADERS.
09:30:22 THANK YOU.
09:30:22 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:30:29 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:30:32 >>BILL CARLSON: MS. GREEN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
09:30:34 COURAGE AND PERSISTENCE OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
09:30:37 WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN MANY WAYS IN THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY
09:30:40 IMPORTANT.
09:30:40 I HOPE THAT WE CAN TOGETHER MAKE A BETTER TAMPA OVER THE
09:30:45 NEXT EIGHT YEARS.
09:30:46 >> I HOPE EVERYONE HEARS THAT.
09:30:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. GREEN, I'VE SEEN YOU OUT MANY, MANY
09:30:51 TIMES.
09:30:51 I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR
09:30:55 PIPELINE TO THE CITIZENS AND THANK YOU FOR INFORMING US
09:30:59 ON THE NEEDS YOUR COMMUNITY HAS.
09:31:01 YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
09:31:02 THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.
09:31:04 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR RECOGNIZING MS. GREEN
09:31:08 TODAY.
09:31:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LENA, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK WE GO.
09:31:15 DEFINITELY FEELS IN THE DECADES, 20-SOMETHING YEARS.
09:31:19 YOU'RE AMAZING.
09:31:20 I APOLOGIZE THAT WE HAVEN'T HONORED YOU BEFORE, A LOT OF
09:31:24 PEOPLE COME AND GO, AND THEY'RE VALUABLE, BUT THEY DO A
09:31:28 COUPLE OF YEARS AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY MOVE ON.
09:31:32 BUT YOU ARE A TIRELESS FIGHTER FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, FOR
09:31:36 THE CHILDREN, FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT, FOR GOOD PLANNING AND
09:31:40 GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT THIS
09:31:42 COMMUNITY.
09:31:42 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:31:43 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:31:44 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:31:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, AGAIN.
09:31:47 MS. YOUNG, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
09:31:49 I REMEMBER WAY BACK, YOU'VE BEEN AN ACTIVIST JUST ABOUT
09:31:52 AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.
09:31:53 YOUR WORK WITH SENATOR HARGRETT IN THE PAST WAS -- AND
09:32:01 THEN YOU CONTINUED ON THAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD
09:32:04 BE PROUD OF.
09:32:06 BECAUSE ACTIVISTS DON'T GET PAID.
09:32:09 WHEN SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF THEIR
09:32:11 HEART, THAT MEANS THEY REALLY BELIEVE IN IT.
09:32:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:32:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M HONORED TO CALL YOU MY FRIEND.
09:32:19 WE MET AFTER I FIRST GOT ELECTED ON THIS JOURNEY CALLED
09:32:22 TBX AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS CHANGED ITS NAME, BUT,
09:32:26 OF COURSE, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU
09:32:28 WORKED SO HARD FOR IS RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF IT ALL.
09:32:32 I MET YOU ALONG WITH MANY OTHER WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN THE
09:32:34 COMMUNITY.
09:32:35 I WOULD SAY YOU ARE A TRUE TREASURE HERE IN THE CITY OF
09:32:41 TAMPA.
09:32:42 THERE ARE NO WORDS TO THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT YOU
09:32:45 DO BECAUSE YOU WORK TIRELESSLY DAY AFTER DAY FOR WHAT YOU
09:32:48 BELIEVE IN, AND WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT.
09:32:51 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I ALWAYS THINK FOR
09:32:53 ELECTED OFFICIALS IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LEAD
09:32:56 PUBLIC LIVES OF VALUES THAT REALLY LIVE UP TO PEOPLE LIKE
09:32:59 YOURSELF WHO WITHOUT PAY OR WITHOUT COMPENSATION, YOU
09:33:02 GIVE BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND ADVOCATE FOR OTHERS WHO
09:33:05 DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
09:33:06 I REALLY THINK THAT SETS A HIGH BAR AND STANDARD THAT I
09:33:09 HOPE WE ALL MEET.
09:33:10 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:33:10 THANK YOU.
09:33:11 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:33:29 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
09:33:31 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:33:33 THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTED FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD IS
09:33:37 MS. SAMANTHA WALKER.
09:33:40 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:33:42 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:33:45 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY.
09:33:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS CONCLUDING YOUR
09:33:48 APPOINTMENTS FOR THIS MEETING, I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL
09:33:52 MAKE A MOTION DIRECTING ME TO BRING BACK RESOLUTIONS THAT
09:33:55 RATIFY THIS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET AT YOUR NEXT REGULAR
09:33:58 MEETING ON SEPTEMBER --
09:33:59 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:34:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:34:03 ANY IN FAVOR?
09:34:05 ANY OPPOSED?
09:34:06 THANK YOU.
09:34:07 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:34:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO COMMENDATIONS.
09:34:20 [INAUDIBLE]
09:34:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE.
09:34:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL ABOARD!
09:34:39 ALL ABOARD!
09:34:40 I THINK A LOT OF US ON COUNCIL KNOW WHEN I SAY I KNOW
09:34:48 WHAT THEY MEAN.
09:34:49 GENTLEMEN, I GIVE THESE COMMENDATIONS THAT ARE LONG
09:34:58 OVERDUE, THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUTTING THE WORK IN OUR
09:35:03 COMMUNITIES FOR A LONG TIME.
09:35:05 MS. LOWE HAS DONE SOMETHING SO MARVELOUS FOR OUR
09:35:10 COMMUNITIES.
09:35:12 SHE HAS THE BLACK BUSINESS -- SHE PUTS ON QUARTERLY,
09:35:17 EVERY OTHER MONTH, TO BRING PROSPERITY TO THE AFRICAN
09:35:20 AMERICAN COMMUNITY, BRING OUTSIDERS INTO OUR COMMUNITY TO
09:35:25 SEE THE TREASURES THAT WE HAVE.
09:35:31 IT'S SO GREAT THAT YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS THE MIND-SET
09:35:36 TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S NEEDED AND BRING AN ECONOMIC IMPACT
09:35:38 TO ALL OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:35:39 AND HER BLACK BUSINESS BUS TOUR I TELL YOU IS A GOOD
09:35:42 VISIONARY IDEA THAT SHE CAME UP WITH, AND IT'S BEEN
09:35:47 WORKING.
09:35:47 I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON THAT BUS TOUR SEVERAL TIMES.
09:35:50 I ALWAYS MAKE SURE I GET MY --
09:35:55 I KNOW MANY OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE BUS AND THOSE OF
09:35:59 YOU WHO HAVEN'T, YOU NEED TO GET ON IT.
09:36:01 IT'S AN EXCITING TIME TO MEET NEW PEOPLE.
09:36:03 BUSINESSES THAT YOU WOULD NOT IMAGINE AND THE PRODUCTS.
09:36:08 IT'S WITH GREAT HONOR THAT I HONOR YOU TODAY BECAUSE
09:36:12 YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING IN THE WORK.
09:36:14 AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE WORK.
09:36:19 COUNCIL, TAMPA VISIONARY CANDY LOWE HOPES TO CHANGE
09:36:24 FORTUNES FOR FELLOW AFRICAN AMERICAN BUSINESS OWNERS.
09:36:27 IN 2006 SHE LAUNCHED THE BLACK BUSINESS BUS TOUR TO HELP
09:36:31 BRING AWARENESS OF LOCAL BLACK BUSINESSES.
09:36:33 WITH THE GOAL OF HOPING TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR
09:36:37 CURRENT AND FUTURE BUSINESS OWNERS.
09:36:39 HER BUS TOURS GAINED NATIONAL ATTENTION IN 2017 WHEN U.S.
09:36:44 TODAY PROFILED HER SUCCESS IN GETTING 150 SHOPPERS ON A
09:36:48 HANDFUL OF MOTOR COACHES THAT TOURED SEVERAL BLACK-OWNED
09:36:52 BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT TAMPA AND SURROUNDING CITIES.
09:36:55 GENTLEMEN, THAT'S AMAZING.
09:36:56 A NATIONAL TREND STARTED, BECAUSE IT'S STARTING ALL OVER
09:37:01 THE COUNTRY WITH HER IDEAS OF BLACK BUSINESS TOUR.
09:37:04 SHE'S DONE A FABULOUS JOB OF CONNECTING PEOPLE AND
09:37:08 EDUCATING FOLKS ON THE BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.
09:37:11 MS. CANDY, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.
09:37:14 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:37:25 >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH, COUNCILMEN, FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
09:37:28 I AM TRULY GRATEFUL AND DEFINITELY HUMBLE.
09:37:32 IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO BE RECOGNIZED, AND I HAVE RECOGNIZED
09:37:38 MANY PEOPLE OVER THE YEAR, AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR
09:37:41 YOU-ALL TODAY FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
09:37:44 A NUMBER OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ON THE BLACK BUSINESS TOUR.
09:37:47 GUIDO, BACK IN THE DAY, LOUIS VIERA.
09:37:55 JOE CITRO.
09:37:58 DINGFELDER AS WELL.
09:38:01 BILL CARLSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
09:38:05 I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF YOU ALL.
09:38:07 WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
09:38:09 WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND RECOGNIZE THOSE
09:38:11 SMALL AFRICAN AMERICAN BUSINESSES.
09:38:14 I'VE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE CITY SINCE 2003, AND I
09:38:19 KNOW IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE GETTING LOANS AND GETTING THE
09:38:24 THINGS WE NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE CITY AS AN AFRICAN
09:38:26 AMERICAN WOMAN AND OUR BUSINESSES NEED HELP.
09:38:39 SMALL AFRICAN AMERICAN BUSINESSES NEED HELP.
09:38:44 AND JUST A LITTLE PUSH, JUST A LITTLE NUDGE, WE SEE THAT
09:38:47 IN 45 MINUTES, A SMALL BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS MAKES $400 IN
09:38:51 THE CITY.
09:38:52 THAT'S THAT PUSH THAT GIVES THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE
09:38:56 FOR ANOTHER RENT AND ANOTHER RENT TO MOVE FORWARD.
09:39:00 I AM GRATEFUL THIS MORNING.
09:39:01 THANK YOU.
09:39:05 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:39:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. LOWE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT
09:39:15 YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:39:17 PLEASE LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHEN YOUR BUS TOUR IS.
09:39:20 >> IT IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 21st OVER AT THE NFL
09:39:28 CENTER.
09:39:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.
09:39:30 PLEASE GET WITH ME.
09:39:31 I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME TRIPS FOR THE SENIORS AGAIN.
09:39:34 I'M HOPING TO BE ON THAT WITH YOU.
09:39:37 >> THANK YOU, JOE.
09:39:38 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:39:40 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN
09:39:41 EVERY WAY AND IN PARTICULAR ON THIS.
09:39:43 WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
09:39:44 I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING YOU AND PARTNERING WITH YOU IN
09:39:46 THE FUTURE.
09:39:48 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:39:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CANDY, YOU'RE AMAZING.
09:39:52 WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.
09:39:54 MY WIFE REMINDS ME REGULARLY HOW GREAT YOU ARE AND THE
09:40:00 WONDERFUL THINGS YOU'RE DOING.
09:40:02 IN REGARD TO THIS COUNCIL, JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
09:40:05 MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN ON BOARD AS A NEW BODY, I THINK
09:40:09 YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE PUSHING MBE ISSUES, WHICH ARE
09:40:16 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, WELLS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:40:18 IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO LIVE, IT MAKES THE
09:40:21 BUSINESS PART OF IT THAT MUCH HARDER.
09:40:24 AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE HOUSING ARE SOME OF THE PRIORITIES
09:40:26 THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT AND DOING THINGS ABOUT OVER
09:40:28 THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
09:40:30 THANK YOU.
09:40:30 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:40:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST REAL QUICK.
09:40:33 YOU AND I MET BACK IN 2010 WHEN I FIRST STARTED GETTING
09:40:38 INVOLVED AND RUNNING IN MY FIRST CAMPAIGN.
09:40:40 I STILL REMEMBER THAT DAY.
09:40:41 I REMEMBER WHO WAS IN THE ROOM AND WHAT WAS SAID.
09:40:44 IT WAS AN EYE-OPENING LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
09:40:47 YOU AND I HAVE MAINTAINED THIS FRIENDSHIP SINCE.
09:40:50 I SEE YOUR WORK OUT THERE, WHETHER ON Facebook OR
09:40:54 HEARING IT FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SEEING IT, JUST LIKE
09:40:57 MS. LENA YOUNG GREEN, YOU'RE AMAZING.
09:40:59 YOU'RE DEDICATED, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY.
09:41:02 IT'S ABOUT MAKING THIS COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE AND
09:41:05 GIVING BACK.
09:41:06 AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:41:07 THANK YOU.
09:41:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:41:10 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:41:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE FINALE, GENTLEMEN.
09:41:19 WE'VE GOT THREE OF OUR OWN CITY EMPLOYEES WITH THE PARKS
09:41:29 AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
09:41:33 EVERYONE HERE?
09:41:34 GENTLEMEN, IT TAKES A LOT TO ACT SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES
09:41:46 PEOPLE ARE FEARFUL TO ACT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
09:41:50 WE HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT SAW A SITUATION AND WERE NOT
09:41:58 FEARFUL TO ACT.
09:42:01 SOMEONE -- SOME WOULD SAY, CALL THEM HEROES.
09:42:05 THEY PROBABLY WOULD SAY, NO, I WAS NOT A HERO.
09:42:07 I WAS JUST DOING MY JOB.
09:42:11 I WAS ACTING.
09:42:12 I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
09:42:13 BEING A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER, I HAD TO ACT SEVERAL
09:42:16 TIMES.
09:42:17 PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE A HERO BUT I WAS JUST DOING MY JOB.
09:42:22 TO SERVE.
09:42:23 THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE DOING ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY.
09:42:27 GENTLEMEN, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT ON FRIDAY, JULY 12th.
09:42:29 A BOY AGE 14 JUMPED INTO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
09:42:32 FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER AT ABOUT 5:40 P.M.
09:42:37 CITY OF TAMPA STAFF, ALONG WITH TWO LOCAL DRAGON BOATERS
09:42:42 WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND SAVING THE YOUNG MAN'S LIFE.
09:42:46 SOON AFTER HE JUMPED INTO THE RIVER, IT WAS EVIDENT THAT
09:42:48 HE WAS STRUGGLING.
09:42:49 ONCE ALERTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF ASHLEY
09:42:53 ST. CLAIR, SOPHIE SEIDENBERG AND VICTORIA MATTIE SPRANG
09:42:57 TO ACTION TO ASSIST WITH THE RESCUE.
09:43:00 HE WAS TREATED BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:43:03 GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, NOT BEING FEARFUL TO ACT.
09:43:09 A LOT OF PEOPLE GET FEARFUL AND PANIC.
09:43:13 BUT APPARENTLY THESE THREE INDIVIDUALS DID NOT PANIC.
09:43:17 I ASSUME THEIR TRAINING KICKED IN AND THEY DID WHAT THEY
09:43:20 WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IN SAVING THAT YOUNG BOY'S LIFE ON
09:43:23 THAT DAY.
09:43:24 WE THANK THE COUNCIL.
09:43:26 I'M SURE THE ADMINISTRATION THANKS YOU.
09:43:29 MY OFFICE COULD NOT GO WITHOUT RECOGNIZING INDIVIDUALS,
09:43:33 ESPECIALLY JUMPING INTO ACTION FOR A YOUNG BOY.
09:43:35 I'M SURE HIS PARENTS ARE VERY GRATEFUL.
09:43:38 WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'VE SOME PLAQUES.
09:43:45 MY AIDE HAS SOMETHING ELSE FOR ME.
09:44:00 SHE'S INSTRUCTING ME.
09:44:06 IT IS MY PLEASURE THAT WE THE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY
09:44:08 COUNCIL HONOR MS. ASHLEY ST. CLAIR, SOPHIE SEIDENBERG AND
09:44:13 VICTORIA MATTIE FOR THE EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE OF DUTY
09:44:15 ON JULY 12, 2019.
09:44:17 WHILE TAKING THE ACTIONS TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A YOUNG TEEN
09:44:20 FROM DROWNING IN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, THE TAMPA CITY
09:44:21 COUNCIL IS PROUD TO RECOGNIZE SELFLESS ACTS OF HEROISM
09:44:25 AND THOSE WHO DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP, RESOURCEFULNESS,
09:44:31 EXTREME RISK TO SELF.
09:44:32 THAT'S IMPORTANT.
09:44:34 RISK TO SELF.
09:44:35 THESE ACTIONS ARE IN KEEPING WITH THE HIGHEST TRADITION
09:44:40 OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT COMMITMENT OF
09:44:42 KEEPING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:44:44 GREAT CREDIT UPON HIS VALUES, PARKS AND RECREATION
09:44:50 DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:44:52 YOUR ACTIONS SAVED A HUMAN LIFE.
09:44:54 THE OUTCOME OF THE INCIDENT WOULD LIKELY NOT HAVE BEEN
09:44:58 POSITIVE WITHOUT THIS INTERVENTION.
09:45:00 ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY, WE
09:45:03 THANK YOU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
09:45:04 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:45:18 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL?
09:45:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:45:26 THE MARK OF A TRUE HERO IS WHEN YOU PUT YOUR LIFE BEFORE
09:45:30 SOMEBODY ELSE.
09:45:31 WHEN YOU PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
09:45:33 YOU THREE LADIES ARE TRULY HEROES OF TAMPA.
09:45:37 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
09:45:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR
09:45:44 EVERY DAY WORK AS CITY OF TAMPA CIVIL SERVANTS.
09:45:47 IN OCTOBER, WE'LL BEGIN TO HONOR CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEE
09:45:50 OF THE MONTH UNDER THE ATU UNION.
09:45:52 THIS REALLY GOES TO WHAT THIS COUNCIL I THINK THOUGHT OF
09:45:56 WHEN WE BEGAN TO DO THAT, WHICH IS EVERYDAY EMPLOYEES OF
09:45:59 THE CITY OF TAMPA WORK REALLY HARD.
09:46:01 YOU MAKE THE CITY RUN ON TIME.
09:46:03 YOU KEEP THE PARKS CLEAN, THE TRASH, EVERYTHING.
09:46:06 YOU NAME IT, IT'S THERE.
09:46:08 THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
09:46:09 I MEAN THAT.
09:46:09 NEXT WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:46:39 BEFORE WE GO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT -- I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE
09:46:46 ROOM CLEARS.
09:46:46 BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:47:06 I WANT TO READ A STATEMENT.
09:47:08 WE'VE GOTTEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT,
09:47:11 AUDIENCE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
09:47:14 I'LL JUST READ THE STATEMENT.
09:47:15 CITY OF TAMPA, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES PUBLIC
09:47:17 COMMENT, HOWEVER, AS HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY MEMBERS OF
09:47:20 THIS COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, RECENT BEHAVIOR IN THE CHAMBERS
09:47:23 AT PAST MEETINGS BY THOSE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE
09:47:26 DISRUPTIVE AND DISTURBING.
09:47:29 IT IS THE RIGHT OF THOSE COMMENTING TO TAKE WHATEVER
09:47:31 POSITION THEY WISH IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
09:47:33 THE ISSUE IS THE MANNER IN WHICH THE POSITIONS ARE BEING
09:47:36 MADE.
09:47:36 WE ARE CONDUCTING THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AND WILL NOT
09:47:39 TOLERATE CONDUCT OUT OF ORDER.
09:47:42 THIS INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO YELLING FROM THOSE
09:47:44 MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT OR FROM THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
09:47:47 PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF THE PROCESS AND THE VOLUME OF THE
09:47:50 SPEAKERS.
09:47:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:47:51 WE ARE HERE AS YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HEAR THE PUBLIC
09:47:54 NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT AND WE
09:47:57 ARE PROUD TO BE HERE.
09:47:58 WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT IT BE DONE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT
09:48:01 WITH OUR DECORUM AND RESPECTFUL OF THE BODY TO EVERYBODY.
09:48:05 WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM
09:48:07 THE PUBLIC.
09:48:10 >> MENTESMOT.
09:48:13 THE GARBAGE THE MAN JUST SPOKE ABOUT, MIGHT BE DIRECTED
09:48:16 TO CERTAIN PEOPLE.
09:48:17 BUT PEOPLE TAKE THREE MINUTES OUT OF THEIR TIME.
09:48:19 CITIZENS TAKE THREE MINUTES OUT OF THEIR TIME TO COME
09:48:21 DOWN HERE AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES
09:48:25 ANY WAY THEY WANT TO, ESPECIALLY IF THEY STAY AWAY FROM
09:48:28 PROFANITY, NUDITY, WHATEVER.
09:48:30 ALL THIS ANOTHER NONSENSE IS BASICALLY CORRAL AFRICAN
09:48:35 PEOPLE WHEN WE TRY TO BRING TO LIGHT HOW WE'RE BEING
09:48:37 OPPRESSED.
09:48:38 AND THE TRICKERY YOU ALL USE AGAINST AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:48:41 WHEN YOU ALL GET EXPOSED AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT.
09:48:45 DON'T LIKE THE TONE.
09:48:46 LOOK TOO UGLY, TOO BLACK, EXPRESS IT THE WAY WHITE FOLKS
09:48:52 WANT IT.
09:48:53 THAT WOULD BE JUST FINE.
09:48:55 IF YOU DO EVERYTHING THE WAY WHITE FOLKS WANTED WE CAN GO
09:48:59 BACK TO JIM CROW AND EMANCIPATION AND SLAVERY.
09:49:02 THAT WILL BE FINE.
09:49:04 SUPPOSEDLY SOME SOPHISTICATED WHITE FOLKS TRYING TO TELL
09:49:07 BLACK FOLKS HOW TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES.
09:49:10 MAN, THAT'S GARBAGE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
09:49:13 AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO RESPECT IT.
09:49:15 WHITE FOLKS HAD A CONSTITUTION SINCE 1776 AND BLACK
09:49:21 PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHTS.
09:49:22 THREE MINUTES TO RAISE OUR VOICE.
09:49:24 LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING.
09:49:25 THAT IS THE BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM.
09:49:27 NOW YOU NEED TO LEARN IT.
09:49:28 BLACK PEOPLE LIFT OUR VOICE.
09:49:30 YOU-ALL CAN'T SILENCE US.
09:49:35 YOU ALL CAN'T SILENCE US WITH THE COMMENDATIONS,
09:49:38 RECOMMENDATIONS AND AWARDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
09:49:40 SUPPOSEDLY FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND
09:49:44 NOTHING GOING ON.
09:49:46 IT'S WORTH NOW THAN IT'S EVER BEEN.
09:49:50 YOU ALL USING TRICKERY BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU CAN TRICK
09:49:53 BLACK PEOPLE.
09:49:57 WE UP OUR GAME.
09:50:00 TRY TO BULLY SOMEONE INTO TALKING THE WAY YOU WANT THEM
09:50:03 TO TALK.
09:50:04 IT WON'T WORK AND NEVER WORK.
09:50:07 GRECO TRIED IT, FREEDMAN TRIED IT AND OTHER ONES TRIED IT
09:50:11 AND BUCKHORN TRIED IT.
09:50:12 IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
09:50:13 BEEN TO JAIL BEHIND IT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
09:50:16 I'LL GO BACK TO JAIL BEHIND IT.
09:50:19 YOU DON'T SCARE NOBODY.
09:50:20 THAT'S NONSENSE YOU ALL TALKING.
09:50:22 BLACK PEOPLE GOT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
09:50:24 I WANT BLACK PEOPLE DOWN HERE BEGGING.
09:50:27 WE AIN'T BEGGING NO MORE.
09:50:28 600 YEARS OF SLAVERY AND OPPRESSION AGAINST OUR PEOPLE,
09:50:32 AGAINST AFRICA.
09:50:33 AND WE WANT 600 TRILLION.
09:50:38 DON'T BE TALKING ABOUT NO GARBAGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
09:50:42 BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA.
09:50:43 THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE.
09:50:45 FOR BLACK PEOPLE AGENDA.
09:50:46 I'M NOT HERE FOR YOUR WHITE AGENDA OR NO UGLY WHITE MAN
09:50:49 WITH GLASSES ON.
09:50:51 CAN'T BE BULLIED PARTNER.
09:50:54 AIN'T FALLIN' FOR IT.
09:50:55 AIN'T GOIN' FOR IT.
09:50:56 600 YEARS OF OPPRESSION AND 600 TRILLION AND WHITE PEOPLE
09:51:01 TRYING TO GET OUT FRONT IN THE REPARATIONS CONVERSATION.
09:51:05 YOU WHITE FOLKS OWE OVER $600 TRILLION AND THAT'S WHAT WE
09:51:08 WANT.
09:51:09 $600 TRILLION, NOT BILLION.
09:51:12 TRILLION, FOR 600 YEARS OF OPPRESSION AND YOU NEVER BULLY
09:51:15 ME BECAUSE I AIN'T SOFT LIKE THAT.
09:51:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:18 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:51:37 >> JOHN MOLL, 4104 NORTH LYNN AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
09:51:41 33603.
09:51:42 I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THIS WAS GOING ON THE MONITOR OR
09:51:48 NOT.
09:51:49 I WAS HERE ON THE 18th OF JULY WHEN JAN McLEAN
09:51:56 PRESENTED SOME PACKAGE TO YOU.
09:51:58 SHE DIDN'T SPEAK IT HERSELF BUT IT WAS IN A MEMORANDUM.
09:52:05 I KNOW SOME OF YOU READ IT.
09:52:07 I'LL TRIED TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
09:52:11 I WON'T HAVE TIME FOR ALL OF IT.
09:52:14 I AND THE CITY STAFF HAVE MET WITH MR. AND MRS. MOLL AND
09:52:19 THEIR ATTORNEY SEVERAL TIMES TO EXPLAIN AND DISCUSS WHAT
09:52:22 IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE A MITIGATION CREDIT FROM THE CITY
09:52:25 STORMWATER ASSESSMENT, BOTH THE SERVICE AND THE CAPITAL
09:52:27 IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION.
09:52:28 I'VE EXCHANGED MULTIPLE COMMUNICATIONS WITH MR. MALL'S
09:52:33 ATTORNEY TO DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY TO AWARD A MITIGATION
09:52:37 CREDIT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION.
09:52:40 YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT, BASED ON A DEMONSTRATION THAT THE
09:52:44 PROPERTY DOES NOT RECEIVE THE BENEFITS AFFORDED BY THE
09:52:47 CITY'S STORMWATER SYSTEM.
09:52:48 THEN AS THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS ARE USER CHARGES,
09:52:52 THERE WERE NO EXEMPTIONS OR EXCEPTIONS FROM THE CHARGES
09:52:56 AS REQUIRED THAT THE OTHER PROPERTIES WOULD HAVE AN
09:52:59 INCREASED BURDEN OF PAYMENT FOR THE BENEFITS.
09:53:02 WELL, I'M TRYING HARD TO DIGEST THAT, BECAUSE IT SAYS ON
09:53:13 MY TAX BILL, IT SAYS -- CALLS IT ASSESSMENT AND THEN IT
09:53:23 CALLS IT A TAX, AND NOW JAN McLEAN IS SAYING IT'S A
09:53:27 USER FEE.
09:53:30 WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN TAX ASSESSMENT AND USER
09:53:33 FEE IF THERE IS ANY?
09:53:37 I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION OR
09:53:41 PERHAPS SOMEBODY CAN RESPOND TO THAT TODAY, IF THEY
09:53:44 WOULD.
09:53:44 WHAT I FOUND OUT WHAT THE CITY WANTS, WHAT'S THE
09:53:50 DIFFICULTY, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS THREE YEARS.
09:53:53 PROBABLY SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN ME BEFORE.
09:53:55 WHAT THEY WANT IS A PE TO SIGN OFF WITH A SEAL THAT MY
09:54:03 PROPERTY DOES NOT DISTRIBUTE WATER TO THE CITY.
09:54:05 I PUT A BERM AROUND IT.
09:54:07 I'VE DONE 17 THINGS TO STOP IT FROM GOING.
09:54:13 PE WON 6 -- WANTS $6,000 TO LOOK AT MY PROPERTY.
09:54:17 I THINK THIS IS OUT OF RANGE FOR MOST HOMESTEADERS.
09:54:20 I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM HERE.
09:54:25 THERE WAS SOME DIRECTION THAT MR. DINGFELDER GAVE ME BACK
09:54:29 ON THE 18th OF JULY, BUT MY NEXT MOVE, STILL TRYING TO
09:54:36 GET THE MITIGATION CREDIT THAT I DESERVE.
09:54:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:54:41 MR. SHELBY WANTS TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
09:54:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MAY RECALL THE LAST TIME MR. MOLL
09:54:47 APPEARED HE WAS REPRESENTED BY COUNCIL ON THIS ISSUE.
09:54:49 I WAS CAUTION COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL SHOULD AVOID ANY
09:54:52 DISCUSSION OF MATTERS AT A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THE CITY
09:54:54 IS LIKELY TO BE A PARTY OF LITIGATION WITHOUT THE
09:54:56 CONCURRENCE OF COUNCIL.
09:54:58 THANK YOU.
09:54:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:54:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:55:12 >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
09:55:14 NICE TO SEE YOU.
09:55:15 MY NAME IS PATRICIA MOLL.
09:55:17 3104 BEN AVENUE.
09:55:20 ONE OF THE REASONS WE CAME THIS MORNING WAS BECAUSE WE
09:55:25 THOUGHT THE ANGUS GOSS MEMORIAL POOL WAS GOING TO BE ON
09:55:30 THE AGENDA.
09:55:31 APPARENTLY IN MY READING IT, IT'S NOT.
09:55:33 >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, IF I MAY, IT ACTUALLY IS -- GUIDO?
09:55:41 IT IS ON THE AGENDA, MA'AM.
09:55:47 YOU MAY TALK ABOUT IT.
09:55:48 NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
09:55:53 ITEM 83.
09:55:54 NOW IS YOUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
09:56:02 >> I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT AT 83.
09:56:04 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, MA'AM.
09:56:05 NOW IS THE TIME.
09:56:07 >> I GUESS I DIDN'T READ AS WELL AS I THOUGHT I DID.
09:56:10 WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF OPENING THAT POOL.
09:56:18 THE COMMUNITY IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT, AND WE WOULD
09:56:22 LIKE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT ON IT.
09:56:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:56:26 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:56:54 >> COME UP HERE TO READ THE BIBLE TO YOU ALL.
09:56:57 I'M GIVING YOU SOME SCRIPTURE.
09:57:08 BLACK FOLKS LIKE ME AND TONY DANIELS.
09:57:11 I HAVE A BLACK HISTORICAL MUSEUM.
09:57:17 I BROUGHT SOME THINGS DOWN HERE I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT IT.
09:57:24 THESE ARE CHILDREN SHACKLES.
09:57:29 NEGRO WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
09:57:31 THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AT THE MUSEUM.
09:57:33 WHITE FOUNTAIN AND COLORED FOUNTAIN.
09:57:38 COLOR ONLY ALLOWED BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:57:40 ALL THIS STUFF.
09:57:48 MY BROTHER FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II.
09:57:51 THIS IS WHAT HE HAD TO COME BACK TO, JUNK LIKE THIS HERE.
09:57:55 THEN THAT MAN GOT NERVE TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN SAY AND
09:57:59 WHAT WE CAN'T SAY.
09:58:00 SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU ALL.
09:58:01 WHY DON'T YOU-ALL GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND RESPECT US AS
09:58:09 PEOPLE?
09:58:09 -- GENTLEMAN HERE BECAUSE HE DO MORE THAN THE NAACP AND
09:58:09 ANYBODY ELSE DO.
09:58:09 LOOK WHAT YOU ALL DID TO BILL COSBY.
09:58:17 BILL COSBY IS INNOCENT.
09:58:18 HERE COMES SOME UGLY WHITE WOMAN TALKING ABOUT HE RAPED
09:58:27 HER 25 YEARS AGO.
09:58:27 WAIT A MINUTE.
09:58:27 WHAT YOU ALL GOING TO DO ABOUT THE MEN OUT THERE KILLING
09:58:27 THEM LITTLE SCHOOLCHILDREN?
09:58:29 GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY.
09:58:30 WORRYING ABOUT A BLACK MAN WHO HE WENT WITH AND THAT UGLY
09:58:35 WOMAN LOOKED UGLIER THAN I AM.
09:58:38 I DON'T THINK HE RAPED HER.
09:58:39 LORD HAVE MERCY.
09:58:41 THINGS GOING WORSE AND WORSER BECAUSE YOU ALL GOT A UGLY
09:58:45 MAN THERE LIKE THE NAME -- WHAT HIS NAME -- TRUMP.
09:58:49 NOW WE HAVE A MAYOR THAT WHEN SHE WAS CHIEF OF POLICE,
09:58:51 HER NAME I GUESS JANE CASTOR, CHIEF OF POLICE.
09:58:56 SHE SENT 13 POLICE OFFICERS AROUND THERE WHEN WE WERE
09:59:00 HAVING MEMORIAL SERVICE AT THE CHURCH.
09:59:03 NOW THAT SHE'S MAYOR SHE'S GIVING ME A HARD TIME ANYWAY.
09:59:07 THE THING ABOUT IT, I'M BEING WHO I AM AND BELIEVING IN
09:59:10 THE TRUTH AND GOT MY TRUST IN GOD.
09:59:13 I'M HOPING AND PRAYING THAT EVERYTHING WORK OUT IN OUR
09:59:16 FAVOR.
09:59:17 GOD SAID THIS HERE.
09:59:19 I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU, BECAUSE I'M A BIBLE SCHOLAR.
09:59:25 GOD SAYS -- IS HERE.
09:59:27 HE SAYS HE WILL REPAY.
09:59:31 DON'T TREAT PEOPLE -- AND THINK YOU GET AWAY.
09:59:35 NO.
09:59:36 YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
09:59:37 YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS CHRIST SAY, BEFORE HE CAME ON THE
09:59:42 SCENE, THAT THE JEWS HAD A TESTIMONY, EYE FOR AN EYE,
09:59:47 TOOTH FOR TOOTH.
09:59:48 CHRIST SAID, NO, HE GOT TO DO AWAY WITH THAT.
09:59:52 EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD WOULD BE BLIND AND WITHOUT ANY
09:59:54 TOOTH.
09:59:56 SO JESUS CHRIST TOLD US, HEY, RESPECT -- THAT'S WHAT
10:00:02 WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO.
10:00:03 ANYBODY CAN PULL A HAMMER ON THE GUN, PULL IT BACK AND
10:00:07 KILL SOMEBODY, BUT WE'RE NOT THAT TYPE OF PEOPLE.
10:00:10 WE PEOPLE THAT LOVE EVERYBODY.
10:00:11 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT PLEASE.
10:00:12 THANK YOU.
10:00:13 >> I KNOW YOU'LL CUT ME OFF, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU
10:00:16 TRUTH AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH.
10:00:18 GOD BLESS YOU.
10:00:26 FREEDOM OF SPEECH JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
10:00:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:00:32 >> CAN I GET TONY DANIEL UP HERE AND GIVE HIM A BLESSING.
10:00:37 >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE OVER.
10:00:39 >> TONY, THEY WON'T LET ME BLESS YOU.
10:00:42 WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU DESERVE A BLESSING.
10:00:45 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:00:47 COME THERE ANYTIME.
10:00:49 I'LL LET YOU TAKE A TOUR OF IT.
10:00:52 SEE STUFF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE.
10:00:54 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, PLEASE.
10:01:03 >> GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:01:05 SPEAK WITH YOU.
10:01:06 KEVIN PLUMMER, CURRENT CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF THE TAMPA
10:01:09 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
10:01:09 I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE 2019-2020 BUDGET PRESENTED
10:01:14 TO YOU FOR THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
10:01:20 AND ITS RESPONSIBILITY --
10:01:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ACTUALLY UNDER A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:01:24 THERE WOULD BE SEPARATE PUBLIC COMMENT UNDER THAT
10:01:26 PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
10:01:27 >> YES, SIR.
10:01:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:01:30 NEXT, MA'AM.
10:01:36 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:01:37 I'M THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LADY WITH THE ISSUES.
10:01:42 SINCE 2013, I LIVED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:01:50 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CONSIDERED LOW-INCOME HOUSING,
10:01:53 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKING CLASS HOUSING, POOR PEOPLE
10:01:57 HOUSING.
10:01:57 NOW I HEAR THE WORD WORKFORCE HOUSING.
10:02:01 I'VE WORKED BEFORE.
10:02:02 I'VE WORKED IN THE PAST.
10:02:03 I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE OF THESE HOUSES I'M
10:02:07 GOING TO FIT IN.
10:02:08 I HAVE THESE PICTURES.
10:02:10 I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEM OR NOT.
10:02:13 AT THE CURRENT MOMENT I'M LIVING IN THESE TYPES OF
10:02:16 CONDITIONS.
10:02:16 THAT'S MOLD AND MILDEW.
10:02:18 CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN OUT.
10:02:19 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE GET EYES ON THESE AGENCIES.
10:02:23 OKAY?
10:02:24 CODE ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
10:02:25 GET SOME EYES ON THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
10:02:30 WHO ARE PURCHASING THESE BUILDINGS OR APARTMENTS AND THE
10:02:34 CONDITIONS ARE DEPLORABLE.
10:02:38 NOW, I ALSO WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S TRUE.
10:02:44 THEY SAY HOUSING FOR POOR PEOPLE PROVE TOO COSTLY TO
10:02:48 BUILD.
10:02:49 IS IT TRUE?
10:02:50 I'M GOING TO KEEP ASKING UNTIL SOMEBODY GET AN APARTMENT
10:02:53 OR A BUILDING WITH THE LIMITED INCOME FOR POOR BLACK
10:02:59 PEOPLE, POOR BROWN PEOPLE, TO LIVE IN WITHOUT THESE
10:03:03 CONDITIONS.
10:03:08 I HAVE A GROWING ON MY BODY THAT I NEVER HAD UNTIL I COME
10:03:12 TO TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:03:14 IT ITCH.
10:03:15 IT HURTS.
10:03:16 IT SWELLS IS UP.
10:03:18 I HAVE BOILS UNDER MY ARM.
10:03:21 I NEVER HAD UNTIL I CAME TO TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:03:24 THEY SMELL LIKE TWO DEAD SKUNKS.
10:03:27 DON'T CARE HOW MUCH DEODORANT I TAKE, ONLY HAD THIS SINCE
10:03:33 I'VE BEEN LIVING IN SEWER CONDITION PROPERTY.
10:03:35 THAT SEWER AT THE FRONT DOOR.
10:03:37 I NEVER COULD OPEN THE DOOR.
10:03:39 I LIVE IN OPEN PIPES IN THE CEILING.
10:03:42 AGAIN, HE ASKED ME WHAT TYPE OF HOUSING, POOR PEOPLE,
10:03:48 BROWN PEOPLE AND MYSELF.
10:03:50 THIS INFORMATION HERE -- IT'S NOT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:03:55 IT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2013.
10:03:58 I HAVE MY PAPERWORK AND PROOF.
10:04:00 AGAIN, I ASK AGAIN, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COURTHOUSE, LET'S
10:04:04 BE TRANSPARENT.
10:04:06 YOU OWE ME OVER $30,000.
10:04:08 I NEED MY MONEY.
10:04:10 THAT'S THE CASE.
10:04:12 I NEED MY MONEY.
10:04:14 MAYBE THAT WILL CHANGE MY LIVING CONDITIONS.
10:04:17 I FILED THIS NON-CHILD SUPPORT CASE BACK IN '97.
10:04:23 THE GENTLEMAN WORKED RIGHT NOW DOWNTOWN HERE, WALKING
10:04:26 DISTANCE FROM THE COURTHOUSE AT THE LONGSHOREMAN.
10:04:30 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COURTS DID NOT HONOR IT.
10:04:33 TODAY WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY.
10:04:34 I NEED MY MONEY SO I CAN LIVE BETTER.
10:04:38 THANK YOU AND ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
10:04:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:04:42 NEXT PLEASE.
10:04:43 >> MY NAME IS CRAIG GROSS.
10:04:45 I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF GOLD STAR AWARENESS, I'M ALSO THE
10:04:50 CHAPLAIN FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR GOLD STAR FATHERS.
10:04:55 A GOLD STAR PARENT IS A PARENT WHO HAS LOST HIS SON OR
10:04:59 DAUGHTER IN THE WAR.
10:05:05 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU HAD SAID THAT WHEN THESE YOUNG
10:05:07 LADIES CAME UP, THEY SAVED THAT YOUNG MAN'S LIFE.
10:05:11 THEY PUT THEIR LIFE IN PERIL TO SAVE SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:05:15 I'D LIKE TO SAY OUR SOLDIERS DO THAT EVERY DAY.
10:05:19 FREEDOM IS NOT FREE, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW.
10:05:24 I'M PROUD TO STAND HERE IN FRONT OF A CITY COUNCIL WHERE
10:05:28 WE LIVE IN A NATION WHERE WE'RE FREE.
10:05:32 WE ARE FREE PEOPLE.
10:05:33 AND WE WILL REMAIN FREE AS LONG AS WE RECOGNIZE THE FACT
10:05:39 THAT FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
10:05:40 I'M HERE TO HONOR ONE OF YOUR COUNCILMEN TODAY.
10:05:45 MY SON WAS BURIED IN ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY.
10:05:48 AND EVERY YEAR, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER HERE HONORS MY
10:05:54 SON, SECTION 60, GRAVE SITE 8311, AND THERE'S AN ANNUAL
10:06:02 EVENT CALLED RACE ACROSS AMERICA.
10:06:06 AT THAT EVENT, EVERY YEAR, WREATHS ARE PLACED AT OUR SONS
10:06:10 AND DAUGHTERS GRAVE SITES.
10:06:14 SO I PAINTED A PICTURE.
10:06:15 I'M AN ARTIST.
10:06:16 I'M A PROFESSIONAL ARTIST BY TRADE.
10:06:21 I PAINTED THIS PICTURE, AND IT IS CALLED WREATHS ACROSS
10:06:28 ARLINGTON.
10:06:30 MR. VIERA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME DOWN HERE, I WANT TO
10:06:34 PRESENT THIS.
10:06:35 THIS IS A PAINTING THAT I DID FOR WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA.
10:06:42 IT'S CALLED WREATHS ACROSS ARLINGTON.
10:06:44 I WANT TO GIVE YOU A COPY IN HONOR OF WHAT YOU DO FOR MY
10:06:49 SON EVERY YEAR.
10:06:50 GOD BLESS YOU.
10:06:51 [ APPLAUSE ]
10:07:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:07:05 I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MR. CRAIG GROSS.
10:07:08 HE'S ONE OF THE NICEST PEOPLE ON GOD'S EARTH.
10:07:10 I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE STORY OF HOW WE MET.
10:07:15 I LOVE THE STORY.
10:07:16 I'D WRITTEN AN ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA TRIBUNE BACK WHEN I
10:07:19 HAD TIME TO WRITE ARTICLES ON JIMMY STEWART.
10:07:22 IT WAS DURING CHRISTMAS, AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT "IT'S A
10:07:24 WONDERFUL LIFE" AND HOW IT WAS HIS FIRST MOVIE AFTER THE
10:07:32 WAR, AND HOW HE FLEW, I THINK IT WAS, 19 BOMBING
10:07:32 MISSIONS, INCLUDING THE LAST ONE OVER BERLIN AND TALKING
10:07:32 ABOUT PTSD.
10:07:33 THEN I GOT AT MY LAW OFFICE A LETTER FROM YOUR WIFE,
10:07:36 TONY, WITH THIS ON IT, WITH FRANK ON IT.
10:07:39 I READ IT, AND I GOT VERY EMOTIONAL.
10:07:42 AND WE BECAME GOOD FRIENDS AFTER THAT.
10:07:44 THANK YOU.
10:07:49 [ APPLAUSE ]
10:07:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I LOOK AT YOUR Facebook
10:08:01 PAGE AND I SEE THE PLACES YOU GO, AND I'M AMAZED AT THE
10:08:06 PLACES YOU DO GO.
10:08:07 YOU TAKE YOUR SON AND TEACH HIM HISTORY, AND NOT JUST
10:08:12 ARLINGTON, BUT BLACK HISTORY.
10:08:16 YOU GO TO A LOT OF PLACES THAT PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD --
10:08:21 THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN.
10:08:23 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO BY TRAVELING
10:08:26 WITH YOUR SON, LETTING HIM SEE THE HISTORY OF AMERICA,
10:08:28 THE HISTORY OF BLACK FOLKS, AND JUST GIVING THE SPIRIT OF
10:08:33 HONORING PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU DO.
10:08:35 IF YOU GET THE CHANCE, FOLKS, HIS OFFICE IS FILLED WITH
10:08:38 ALL TYPES OF HISTORY, BLACK HISTORY, AND I DIP IN THERE
10:08:43 EVERY NOW AND THEN JUST TO LOOK AT HIS WALL.
10:08:45 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
10:08:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO BE
10:08:51 HANGING PROUDLY IN YOUR OFFICE.
10:08:55 WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE AT HOME
10:08:57 HAVE SEEN IT.
10:08:58 WONDERFUL.
10:09:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO ECHO SOME OF
10:09:10 COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS.
10:09:11 EVERY YEAR I KNOW YOU TAKE YOUR SON TO WASHINGTON, DO
10:09:14 YOUR ANNUAL TRIP.
10:09:15 I KNOW YOU GO TO ARLINGTON.
10:09:17 I REMEMBER I MESSAGED YOU ONE DAY AND ASKED IF YOU WOULD
10:09:20 FIND A PHOTO OF A GRAVE OF A LOCAL VIETNAM VET, BORN AND
10:09:24 RAISED IN TAMPA, THE PICTURE OF IT WASN'T ONLINE AND YOU
10:09:28 DID.
10:09:28 I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:09:30 BUT, AGAIN, SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO THIS, THAT YOU HONOR
10:09:35 THESE GREAT AMERICAN HEROES AND YOU TAKE YOUR SON WITH
10:09:40 YOU AND TEACH.
10:09:41 YOU'RE PREPARING THE NEXT GENERATION SO THEY HAVE THE
10:09:43 SAME APPRECIATION.
10:09:43 THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
10:09:44 YOU, SIR, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE.
10:09:46 AS A GOLD STAR PARENT, YOUR SON IS AN AMERICAN HERO.
10:09:50 WE WILL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL FOR HIS SACRIFICE TO THIS
10:09:53 COUNTRY.
10:09:53 THANK YOU.
10:09:54 >> I'LL SAY SOMETHING WHICH IS INTERESTING AND I TALKED
10:09:57 TO CRAIG AND TONY ABOUT THIS, CRAIG GAVE ME A PAINTING
10:10:00 THAT I PLACED UP ON MY WALL.
10:10:02 YOU GAVE IT TO ME ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO AT THE RESTAURANT.
10:10:05 I WAS APPROACHED BY CINDY ROBERTS, THE WIDOW OF THE LATE
10:10:09 MIKE ROBERTS WHO DIED AUGUST 19 TEN YEARS AGO, AND I GAVE
10:10:14 THAT PAINTING TO CINDY ROBERTS.
10:10:16 AND THEN COME TO FIND OUT, THE SAME DAY, AUGUST 19 WOULD
10:10:22 HAVE BEEN FRANK'S 34th BIRTHDAY.
10:10:25 AND THAT WAS THE SAME DAY THAT MIKE ROBERTS WAS TAKEN
10:10:30 FROM US.
10:10:30 I'M CATHOLIC, BUT I'M NOT OVERLY RELIGIOUS, BY GOLLY,
10:10:34 THAT'S GOT TO BE THE GOOD LORD.
10:10:36 THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
10:10:37 THANK YOU.
10:10:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:49 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:50 THE REASON I'M DOWN HERE, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY
10:10:57 SAW IN THE PAPER THAT THE MAYOR ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER
10:11:00 NUMBER 3 CONCERNING LGBT, AND THEY FEEL THAT IT IS AN
10:11:08 INTRUSION ON THE MINORITY BUSINESS ORDINANCE.
10:11:09 I RESEARCHED IT FOR THE LAST THREE DAYS, AND IT'S NOT A
10:11:15 PROBLEM, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
10:11:18 THE MINORITY BUSINESS AND THE FEDERAL LAWS.
10:11:23 THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, ALL IT DOES, IT STARTS TO
10:11:26 TRACK LGBT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU COULDN'T DO A DISPARITY
10:11:30 STUDY IF YOU WANTED TO BECAUSE THERE'S NO METHODOLOGY FOR
10:11:33 DOING ONE.
10:11:34 IN ADDITION, NO DATA TO EVEN START DOING ONE.
10:11:36 WHAT THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER DOES IS WHAT IS GOING AROUND
10:11:40 THE NATION.
10:11:41 THERE'S 187-PAGE RECOMMENDATION FOR LGBT TO GET LOCAL
10:11:49 OFFICIALS TO INSTITUTE ORDINANCES -- OR EXECUTIVE ORDERS,
10:11:52 SUCH AS THIS.
10:11:53 THE MBE PROGRAM IS AN ORDINANCE.
10:11:57 EXECUTIVE ORDERS DON'T TRUMP ORDINANCES.
10:12:00 NUMBER 3 EXECUTIVE ORDER, I READ IT, HAD MY LEGAL BOARDS
10:12:05 AND SOME FRIENDS LOOK AT IT, NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
10:12:09 IT'S BASICALLY SAYING, HEY, WE'RE A DIVERSE CITY.
10:12:12 THAT'S WHAT WE WANT HERE.
10:12:13 YOU HEARD PEOPLE BEFORE ME TELL YOU ABOUT BLACK FOLKS
10:12:16 AIN'T GOT JUSTICE.
10:12:17 SO LGBT DOES NOT HAVE JUSTICE.
10:12:19 BUT THEY'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO TO GET IT DOCUMENTED.
10:12:23 AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME PEOPLE FEEL THEY DON'T WANT TO
10:12:26 COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY WILL BE RETALIATED IF
10:12:29 THEY GET ON THIS DATABASE, BASED ON THE RESEARCH I FOUND
10:12:32 FROM PHILADELPHIA AND LOOKING AT OTHER ENTITIES.
10:12:34 I SENT GREGORY HART AND HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH HIM
10:12:37 ABOUT THIS.
10:12:40 BOTH OF US HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION IT DOES NOT AFFECT
10:12:44 THE WMBE PROGRAM.
10:12:46 NOT PUT LGBT IN FRONT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN AND MINORITY
10:12:49 BUSINESSES BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A TRACKING DEVICE.
10:12:52 SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A CLOAKING DEVICE BUT IT IS A
10:12:57 TRACKING DEVICE.
10:12:58 SAL TERRITO DID A GOOD JOB HELPING THE MAYOR WITH THIS.
10:13:02 WHAT IT SAYS HERE, BASICALLY THIS ORDER SHALL NOT ALTER
10:13:07 EXISTING WMBE SLBE PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES THAT ARE
10:13:13 PROMULGATED ON A LEGAL BASIS FROM A DISPARITY STUDY.
10:13:17 THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER IS A GOOD THING TO BRING US TO THE
10:13:21 21st CENTURY.
10:13:23 ALSO SHOWN FROM MY RESEARCH THAT LGBT ORGANIZATIONS, IF
10:13:26 THEY GET A PRIME CONTRACT, IF THEY DO, THEY MOST LIKELY
10:13:29 GO AND HIRE ANOTHER MINORITY TO WORK WITH THEM AS A
10:13:33 SUBCONTRACTOR.
10:13:33 BASED ON MY REVIEW AND MY BOARD IS LOOKING AT IT, WE
10:13:37 DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
10:13:38 IF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THERE IS NO
10:13:42 CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO USURP ANYTHING.
10:13:44 IF ANYTHING, ENHANCE THE DIVERSITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:13:47 AND THE WORK THAT THE CITY MAYOR IS TRYING TO GET DONE.
10:13:51 I WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
10:13:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. ROBINSON, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU ALWAYS
10:13:59 DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
10:14:03 I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK TO GIVE LIGHT ON THE
10:14:06 SITUATION.
10:14:07 WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
10:14:10 >> IT'S ONLINE.
10:14:11 I GOT THIS RIGHT OFF THE LINE.
10:14:13 YOU ALL NEVER SEEN IT.
10:14:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT.
10:14:22 HASN'T COME THROUGH THEM E-MAIL AT -- THROUGH MY E-MAIL
10:14:26 AT ALL.
10:14:27 I'M ASKING STAFF TO GET A COPY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
10:14:29 I HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF E-MAILS ON THAT.
10:14:31 THAT WAS MY NEXT THING TO CALL E-MAIL.
10:14:36 INSTRUCTIONS TO SEND THAT TO US.
10:14:38 >> WE'VE GOT TOO MANY GOOD THINGS GOING IN THE CITY AND
10:14:42 WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT DIVISIVE.
10:14:45 THIS SEEMS LIKE DIVIDE AND CONQUER BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T
10:14:49 KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
10:14:51 I WANTED TO COME HERE WITH THE TRUTH AND LET YOU KNOW IT
10:14:56 DOES NOT AFFECT THE MINORITY BUSINESS PROGRAM WHATSOEVER.
10:14:58 IT IS A TRACKING SYSTEM THAT START LOOKING AT AND GETTING
10:15:02 PEOPLE THAT APPLY TO THE LGBT NATIONAL CHAMBER TO
10:15:07 REGISTER WITH THEM AND THEN THE CITY CAN START TRACKING
10:15:10 TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:15:11 THAT'S ALL.
10:15:12 I WANT TO GET IT STRAIGHT SO WON'T BE NO MESS, OKAY.
10:15:16 I HAVE TO GET BACK TO WORK ON THIS CASE I'M WORKING ON.
10:15:18 THAT'S WHY I LOOK LIKE THIS.
10:15:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
10:15:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:15:23 ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:15:25 NEXT, I WANTED TO, IF I MAY, GO TO THE 19th AMENDMENT
10:15:31 RESOLUTION.
10:15:32 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS
10:15:34 FOR THAT?
10:15:35 GREATER.
10:15:38 MA'AM, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ON IT?
10:15:40 OKAY.
10:15:41 JUST MAKING SURE.
10:15:43 MAY I HAVE SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
10:15:45 OKAY.
10:15:46 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:15:48 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:15:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:15:51 ANY OPPOSED?
10:15:52 IT IS SO MOVED.
10:15:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:54 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:15:58 I'M SURE EVERYBODY READ IT ON THE RATIFICATION OF THE
10:16:01 19th AMENDMENT.
10:16:02 I THINK THAT IF YOU READ THROUGH THE RESOLUTION, IT GIVES
10:16:05 WHAT I THINK IS A VERY GOOD HISTORY OF THE 19th
10:16:08 AMENDMENT WHICH I ALWAYS SEE AS A HUGE DOWN PAYMENT ON
10:16:12 SUFFRAGE, BUT NOT ALL OF IT, OBVIOUSLY.
10:16:15 THERE WERE GREAT STEPS.
10:16:17 THE 15th AMENDMENT, THEN THERE'S THE 19th AMENDMENT
10:16:20 ABOUT 50 YEARS LATER AND ABOUT 46 YEARS AFTER THAT, YOU
10:16:23 GOT THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, AND TODAY THE JOB IS STILL FAR
10:16:27 FROM DONE, AS WE SAW WITH AMENDMENT 4.
10:16:30 WE'RE COMMEMORATING A BIG STEP IN THAT RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:16:33 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:16:34 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:16:37 ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION
10:16:39 OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:16:40 OKAY.
10:16:42 BEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORTS, CONSENT
10:16:46 ITEMS.
10:16:47 FIRST, WE'LL DO A VERY SPECIAL ORDINANCE.
10:16:50 ITEM NUMBER 7.
10:16:51 IS ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF FOR ITEM 7?
10:16:55 DOES ANYONE HAVE COMMENT FROM CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM 7?
10:17:00 NO.
10:17:01 OKAY.
10:17:01 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH READING THAT,
10:17:05 SIR?
10:17:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
10:17:07 IT IS AN HONOR TO READ THIS AND TO HONOR PRESIDENT JUDY
10:17:15 GENSHAFT IN NAMING USF ONE OF THE MAIN BOULEVARDS OUT AT
10:17:21 USF AFTER HER AND THE HARD WORK THAT SHE DID IN BUILDING
10:17:25 THE UNIVERSITY.
10:17:26 AS IT IS.
10:17:28 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT THING, JOE.
10:17:33 >> GO BULLS.
10:17:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OR GO GATORS.
10:17:36 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:17:36 ALL RIGHT.
10:17:39 BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, SHE DID A GREAT JOB AND WE'RE
10:17:42 PROUD TO HONOR HER WITH AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:17:46 RENAMING AND DESIGNATING THAT PORTION OF USF MAPLE DRIVE
10:17:49 LOCATED WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA CAMPUS
10:17:52 (USF), LYING NORTH OF USF ALUMNI DRIVE, SOUTH OF EAST
10:17:58 FLETCHER AVENUE, EAST OF BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD AND
10:18:02 WEST OF NORTH 50th STREET, WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:18:04 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA SO THAT IT WILL HERE AFTER
10:18:08 BE KNOWN AS USF GENSHAFT DRIVE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:18:11 DATE.
10:18:11 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:18:13 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:18:15 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:18:17 ANY OPPOSED?
10:18:18 >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION HELD ON
10:18:20 SEPTEMBER 19, 2019, AT 9:30 A.M.
10:18:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:23 WE MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:18:25 I KNOW SOME ITEMS WERE PULLED.
10:18:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW THERE WAS ONE YOU WANTED TO
10:18:29 COMMENT ON.
10:18:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR, ITEM 13.
10:18:36 >>LUIS VIERA: WAS THERE ANYONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY PULLED,
10:18:39 SIR?
10:18:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 40.
10:18:45 >>LUIS VIERA: 40 AND 58.
10:18:47 IS ANYONE HERE FROM CITY OF TAMPA STAFF FOR EITHER ITEM
10:18:50 40 OR 58?
10:18:51 JUST MAKING SURE.
10:18:53 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:18:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:18:58 I'D LIKE TO MOVE --
10:18:59 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
10:19:00 EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:19:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY COMMENT IN REGARD TO NUMBER 13 IS A
10:19:05 POSITIVE COMMENT.
10:19:07 THIS IS REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND 23
10:19:10 APPLICANTS FOR TPD RECRUITMENT PROGRAM.
10:19:13 MY QUESTION TO STAFF EARLIER THIS WEEK WAS, HOW ARE WE
10:19:16 DOING ON MINORITY AND WOMEN RECRUITMENT WITHIN TPD?
10:19:24 I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS BACK AND ALSO VETERAN
10:19:26 RECRUITMENT.
10:19:27 BUT FORMER DEPUTY CHIEF BENNETT, WHO IS NOW OUR CHIEF OF
10:19:33 STAFF, REPLIED AND APPARENTLY INCLUDED IN THIS PROGRAM IS
10:19:37 A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF MINORITY RECRUITS, AFRICAN
10:19:41 AMERICAN, HISPANIC, AS WELL AS WOMEN AND VETERANS.
10:19:45 SO I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING WELL IN THAT REGARD TO FURTHER
10:19:51 INTEGRATE TPD.
10:19:53 THANK YOU.
10:19:53 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL SAID, COUNCILMAN.
10:19:55 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:19:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:19:58 I'D LIKE TO MOVE AGENDA ITEMS 8 THROUGH 14.
10:20:01 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:20:04 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:20:05 ANY OPPOSED?
10:20:06 NEXT PARKS, RECREATION CULTURAL COMMITTEE.
10:20:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 23.
10:20:12 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:20:16 A SECOND I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:20:19 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:20:20 ANY OPPOSED?
10:20:21 NEXT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, PUBLIC WORKS.
10:20:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:20:25 HONORED TO MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 33.
10:20:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:20:28 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:20:31 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:20:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:34 ANY OPPOSED?
10:20:34 NEXT, FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:20:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 34 THROUGH 39 AND 41
10:20:41 THROUGH 44.
10:20:42 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:20:44 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND SUBSTITUTE -- WITH
10:20:48 THE SUBSTITUTE?
10:20:49 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:20:52 ANY OPPOSED?
10:20:53 THANK YOU.
10:20:54 NEXT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
10:20:59 BUILDING, ZONING, PRESERVATION.
10:21:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 45 THROUGH 53.
10:21:04 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:21:07 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:21:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:21:09 ANY OPPOSED?
10:21:10 NEXT, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, TRANSPORTATION.
10:21:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I DO THAT, I DID ASK FOR A --
10:21:17 COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON NUMBER 58.
10:21:20 BEFORE WE APPROVE IT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS
10:21:24 BUSINESS TO ALREADY BE DOING THE WORK?
10:21:27 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT DOES HAPPEN BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
10:21:30 APPROVES?
10:21:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WISH TO
10:21:33 HAVE A STAFF MEMBER PRESENT?
10:21:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SOMEONE THAT CAN ANSWER THE
10:21:39 QUESTION.
10:21:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THEY CAN, I HOPE THEY WOULD BE
10:21:42 MONITORING THE MEETING AND HAVE SOMEBODY DOWN HERE.
10:21:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 54 THROUGH 57 AND 59
10:21:48 THROUGH 60.
10:21:50 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:21:52 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:21:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:21:55 ANY OPPOSED?
10:21:56 OKAY.
10:21:56 SO WE HAVE TWO ITEMS BEING PULLED, AND WE'LL HEAR THEM I
10:22:01 GUESS WHENEVER --
10:22:10 [LOSS OF ENCODER]
10:22:32 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:22:35 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.
10:22:37 LaCHONE DOCK, PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
10:22:39 COORDINATION.
10:22:39 ITEM 61 IS AB 2-1915.
10:22:42 THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING.
10:22:44 SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
10:22:47 SECOND READING.
10:22:48 THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
10:22:49 THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
10:22:52 AND HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:22:53 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:22:56 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON ITEM 61?
10:23:05 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, GARRISON
10:23:08 COHEN.
10:23:09 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ROYAL
10:23:14 ORDER OF MOOSE LODGE NUMBER 912.
10:23:17 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:23:19 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:23:21 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:23:22 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 61, IF
10:23:28 SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
10:23:29 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:23:34 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN I BELIEVE MANISCALCO.
10:23:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:23:38 ANY OPPOSED?
10:23:40 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ARE YOU ABLE TO TAKE ITEM 61, SIR?
10:23:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRESENT FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
10:23:50 FILE AB 2-19-15.
10:23:54 ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S 2 FOR
10:23:57 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
10:24:01 PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
10:24:04 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
10:24:09 ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
10:24:11 3008 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
10:24:16 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
10:24:18 ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
10:24:20 REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 8799-A, PROVIDING AN
10:24:25 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:24:26 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:24:29 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:24:31 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:24:35 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:24:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:38 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 62.
10:24:44 >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
10:24:46 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:24:47 ITEM NUMBER 62 IS AB 2-19-16.
10:24:51 THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING.
10:24:53 THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST
10:24:56 AND SECOND READING.
10:24:57 THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
10:24:58 THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
10:25:00 AND HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:25:02 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:25:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:25:04 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:25:13 >> HELLO.
10:25:14 GOOD MORNING.
10:25:14 ALYSSA MARTINEZ ON BEHALF OF M 2 A 2, LLC, 2353 EAST
10:25:21 FOWLER AVENUE.
10:25:21 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:25:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:25:25 IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 62?
10:25:29 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
10:25:31 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:25:33 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:25:35 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:25:36 ANY OPPOSED?
10:25:37 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, CAN YOU TAKE ITEM 62?
10:25:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:42 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:25:44 ADOPTION.
10:25:45 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR
10:25:47 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, BAR/LOUNGE, CONSUMPTION ON
10:25:52 PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
10:25:54 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
10:25:57 ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
10:26:00 2353 EAST FOWLER AVENUE, UNITS 7 AND 8, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:26:04 AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING
10:26:06 THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:26:09 ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:26:11 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:26:12 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:13 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:26:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
10:26:22 ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:26:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:25 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 63.
10:26:27 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM 63 IS REZ 19-43.
10:26:36 IT IS A SECOND READING FOR EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
10:26:43 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 63?
10:26:53 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:26:54 MY NAME IS OSCAR RAGGIO.
10:26:56 I'M THE PETITIONER.
10:26:57 I'M JUST HERE TO REPORT MY PRESENCE AND HOPEFULLY
10:27:00 EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH.
10:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I BELIEVE IT WILL.
10:27:03 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:27:06 OKAY.
10:27:07 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 63?
10:27:10 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:13 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:27:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:16 ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:17 COUNCILMAN CITRO, CAN YOU, SIR, READ ITEM 63?
10:27:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.
10:27:21 I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO COMMENT THAT I WAS ABSENT DURING THE
10:27:25 FIRST READING, HOWEVER I WAS IN MY HOSPITAL BED WATCHING
10:27:28 THIS STREAMING ON COMPUTER.
10:27:29 I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT I CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
10:27:33 MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:27:35 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
10:27:37 VICINITY OF 2012 NORTH 59th STREET IN THE CITY OF
10:27:41 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
10:27:43 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL,
10:27:49 SINGLE-FAMILY, TO CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, PROVIDING AN
10:27:53 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:53 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:27:55 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:57 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:28:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
10:28:04 ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:28:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:28:08 GOOD LUCK.
10:28:08 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 64.
10:28:11 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
10:28:14 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:28:15 REZ 19-44.
10:28:17 IT'S A SECOND READING FOR PROPERTY REZONING AT 4311 WEST
10:28:21 FIG STREET.
10:28:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 64?
10:28:27 ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 64?
10:28:35 >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI.
10:28:36 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:28:38 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:28:40 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:28:42 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:28:43 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:28:46 BEING NONE IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON
10:28:48 ITEM 64?
10:28:50 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
10:28:53 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, AND I BELIEVE A
10:28:56 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:28:58 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:28:59 ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:00 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN YOU TAKE ITEM 64.
10:29:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:29:03 I MOVE REZ 19-44, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:29:07 READING AND ADOPTION.
10:29:08 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:29:10 4311 WEST FIG STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:29:14 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:29:16 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL,
10:29:19 SINGLE-FAMILY) TO RM-18 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY),
10:29:24 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:29:25 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:29:28 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:34 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH
10:29:36 DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:29:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:29:40 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 65.
10:29:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
10:29:45 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:29:45 ITEM 65 IS REZ 19-45.
10:29:48 IT'S A REZONING REQUEST TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
10:29:50 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN ARE
10:29:54 IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:29:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:56 PETITIONER?
10:29:56 ANYONE HERE FOR THE ITEM?
10:30:01 >> HI.
10:30:03 RIVERA.
10:30:03 I'M HERE TO -- ON BEHALF OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
10:30:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:30:11 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:30:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM?
10:30:13 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 65?
10:30:16 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
10:30:17 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:19 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:30:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:30:22 ANY OPPOSED?
10:30:23 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU TAKE ITEM 65?
10:30:26 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE FILE REZ 19-45, ORDINANCE BEING
10:30:31 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:30:33 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:30:35 1327 WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:30:40 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
10:30:43 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD
10:30:47 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
10:30:50 DETACHED) PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE.
10:30:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:30:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:55 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:31:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:31:04 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 66.
10:31:06 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
10:31:09 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:31:09 ITEM 66 IS REZ 19-46.
10:31:12 IT IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2002 NORTH
10:31:16 49th STREET.
10:31:27 >> HI.
10:31:28 ANN McQUEEN.
10:31:29 I'M THE PETITIONER.
10:31:32 I'M HERE TO REPORT FOR DUTY.
10:31:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:31:35 SO NOTED.
10:31:35 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:31:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:31:39 IF YOU'RE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 66, PLEASE
10:31:43 COME FORWARD.
10:31:44 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:31:46 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:31:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:31:49 ANY OPPOSED?
10:31:50 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, CAN YOU, SIR, READ ITEM 66?
10:31:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE
10:32:00 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:32:01 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:32:03 2002 NORTH 49th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
10:32:07 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:32:09 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY)
10:32:13 TO CI (COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:32:16 DATE.
10:32:16 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:32:18 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:32:20 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:32:26 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:32:27 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:32:29 I WANT TO STOP OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS REALLY FAST, IF I MAY.
10:32:33 I WANT TO GO TO PULLED ITEMS 40 AND 58.
10:32:36 I SEE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF HERE.
10:32:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP,
10:32:44 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE IN REGARD TO ITEM 83, WHICH
10:32:53 WAS A REPORT FROM PARKS AND REC ON POOLS, THEY PROVIDED A
10:32:58 NICE MEMO, BUT I HAD SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, JUST IN
10:33:05 CASE THEY WANTED TO HEAD OVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO
10:33:07 WE CAN JUST KEEP THINGS MOVING.
10:33:09 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT.
10:33:10 WHENEVER WE GET TO ITEM 83 OR IF THEY COME BEFORE, IF
10:33:14 THEY ARE COMING.
10:33:15 I GUESS WE'LL SEE.
10:33:17 WE'RE FIRST DEALING WITH ITEM 40.
10:33:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WAS THAT YOURS?
10:33:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:33:24 LET ME GET TO IT.
10:33:25 IN REGARD TO ITEM 40, GREG, YOU HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE ON
10:33:30 THAT?
10:33:34 JUST LOOKING AT THIS ITEM AND DOING RESEARCH AND TALKING
10:33:37 TO OUR CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT IT, THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WITH
10:33:40 TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES, TEMPORARY STAFFING TYPE OF
10:33:44 COMPANIES.
10:33:45 MAINZER MANAGEMENT AND TECHSTAFF TO PROVIDE TEMP STAFFING
10:33:51 TO THE CITY TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $2 MILLION.
10:33:56 MY QUESTION WAS -- AND MY QUESTION IS TO STAFF -- THANKS
10:34:00 FOR COMING OVER -- IS I RECALL THIS FROM THE LAST TIME I
10:34:06 WAS HERE THAT WE CONTINUE TO USE OUTSIDE STAFFING COMPANY
10:34:09 TO HELP US.
10:34:11 I ASKED MR. BENNETT HOW MUCH WE PAY FOR THIS, AND
10:34:19 APPARENTLY IT'S ABOUT A 39% OR 1.39 MULTIPLIER FOR THAT.
10:34:24 SO LET'S SAY FOR ARGUMENT SAKE, FOR EVERY THOUSAND
10:34:30 DOLLARS WE MIGHT PAY A TEMP EMPLOYEE, I GUESS THEY GET
10:34:35 39% OF THAT OR THERE'S 39% ON TOP OF THAT.
10:34:39 I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
10:34:40 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT 39% TO A TEMP AGENCY JUMPED
10:34:44 OUT AT ME.
10:34:45 I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT -- I HAVE NO CONCERN WITH THESE
10:34:48 TWO COMPANIES, AND I KNOW YOU ALL DID A VERY
10:34:51 COMPREHENSIVE RFP TO GET THERE.
10:34:53 BUT MY CONCERN IS, AND MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE WE DOING
10:34:57 THIS?
10:34:58 WHY DON'T WE DO THIS -- APPARENTLY WE'VE DONE THIS MORE
10:35:01 THAN A DECADE.
10:35:02 WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS OUT OF HOUSE AND PAY SUCH A
10:35:07 PREMIUM, ALMOST 40%, TO A PRIVATE COMPANY FOR DOING THAT
10:35:10 AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT IN-HOUSE WITH OUR OWN VERY, VERY
10:35:13 QUALIFIED AND COMPETENT HR FOLKS, INCLUDING THE ONE
10:35:18 STANDING HERE.
10:35:20 >> THANK YOU.
10:35:20 KELLY AUSTIN, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
10:35:24 I AM ACCOMPANIED BY MIKE SWAIN, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES
10:35:26 MANAGER AND GREG SPEARMAN, PURCHASING DIRECTOR, AND
10:35:29 HOPEFULLY WE CAN ANSWER YOUR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THIS
10:35:32 MORNING.
10:35:33 THE REASON WE DON'T DO IT IN-HOUSE CURRENTLY, EMPLOYMENT
10:35:38 SERVICES IS STAFFED WITH SEVEN.
10:35:41 THAT INCLUDES MIKE, AND HE HAS FOUR PROFESSIONAL
10:35:44 EMPLOYEES, THREE OF THEM ARE SPECIALISTS.
10:35:47 ONE OF THEM IS A BACKGROUND COORDINATOR AND THEN WE HAVE
10:35:50 ONE PERSONNEL TECH, WHO DOES TESTING ADMINISTRATION AND
10:35:54 ONE OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST.
10:35:56 SO THE FOCUS OF MIKE'S TEAM PRIMARILY IS ON SERVING ALL
10:36:00 THE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO
10:36:03 PERMANENT STAFFING SOLUTIONS, WHETHER THAT'S AN ADDITION
10:36:08 OR THROUGH PROMOTION, THAT IS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE
10:36:12 GROUP.
10:36:12 THE GROUP DOES ALL OF THE PREEMPLOYMENT TESTING FOR THE
10:36:15 CITY.
10:36:16 THEY DO PROMOTIONAL TESTING FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
10:36:20 MIKE'S GROUP ALSO DOES CLASSIFICATION COMPENSATION.
10:36:23 SO ANALYSIS GOES THROUGH MIKE'S OFFICE, IF WE ARE LOOKING
10:36:27 FOR A NEW HIRE AND A FAIR AND EQUITABLE SALARY OFFER TO
10:36:32 MAKE BEFORE IT COMES THROUGH TO THE HR DIRECTOR, MIKE'S
10:36:35 GROUP DOES ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE IF IT IS FAIR AND
10:36:38 EQUITABLE AND MATCHES ACROSS THE CITY.
10:36:39 MIKE'S GROUP ALSO HANDLES THE ANALYSIS ON INTERNAL
10:36:43 PROMOTIONS.
10:36:44 SO WE GET A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN THE CITY, AND THAT CAN BE
10:36:47 A GOOD THING.
10:36:47 PEOPLE GET NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY GET PROMOTED.
10:36:50 HOWEVER, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS THE
10:36:52 APPROPRIATE SALARY TO OFFER THAT PROMOTED CANDIDATE.
10:36:55 MANY TIMES THE DEPARTMENT WILL WANT IT TO GO OVER THE
10:36:58 PERSONNEL MANUAL PRESCRIBED 4%.
10:37:01 WE DO ANALYSIS ON THAT TO DETERMINE IF IT'S THE
10:37:03 APPROPRIATE SALARY.
10:37:04 WE ALSO TAKE A LOOK OUT ACROSS THE CITY AND ACROSS OTHER
10:37:07 ENTITIES TO DETERMINE IF THE SALARIES WE ARE OFFERING ARE
10:37:10 FAIR AND APPROPRIATE, AND IF A JOB NEEDS TO BE
10:37:13 RECLASSIFIED, THEY DO THE ANALYSIS ON THOSE TASKS AS
10:37:16 WELL.
10:37:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: KELLY, CAN I INTERRUPT ONE SECOND?
10:37:19 >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:37:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR YOU.
10:37:21 I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE, AND GREG TOLD ME THIS A LITTLE
10:37:24 EARLIER, BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU GUYS ARE VERY BUSY.
10:37:27 >> YES, SIR.
10:37:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE UNDERSTAFFED TO DO THIS.
10:37:31 THEREFORE YOU'RE HIRING AN OUTSIDE GROUP TO HELP US.
10:37:34 >> YEAH.
10:37:35 AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS.
10:37:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY UNDERLYING QUESTION TO YOU
10:37:39 AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS, THIS IS -- WE'RE PAYING THEM
10:37:42 -- I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER IS -- BUT SEVERAL
10:37:46 HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THREE, FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND
10:37:49 DOLLARS TO DO THIS FOR US, AND I CAN'T TELL EXACTLY THE
10:37:52 LENGTH OF THE TERM, BUT I'LL SAY ANNUALLY OR EVERY TWO
10:37:56 YEARS.
10:37:56 SO FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY, IN MY OPINION, WE COULD HIRE
10:38:02 MORE FOLKS TO HELP YOU AND YOUR STAFF DO EXACTLY THIS AND
10:38:05 WE COULD BRING THIS IN-HOUSE AND PERHAPS SAVE MONEY.
10:38:10 >> I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THAT, WHICH I WOULD
10:38:13 LOVE MORE RESOURCES.
10:38:14 I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD.
10:38:15 I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
10:38:17 A TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE SOLUTION, WHEN YOU USE AN OUTSIDE
10:38:20 FIRM, THEY HAVE A DATABASE OF RECRUITMENT THAT THEY CAN
10:38:23 GO TO AT THE READY.
10:38:24 SO WE NEVER KNOW AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHAT OUR RESOURCE NEED
10:38:28 IS GOING TO BE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, AND TRYING TO
10:38:30 MAINTAIN THAT NETWORK OR DATABASE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLY
10:38:34 LOOKING TO WORK FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME COULD BE A
10:38:39 CHALLENGE, AND IT WOULD POSSIBLY DELAY OUR ABILITY TO
10:38:42 FILL THOSE VACANCIES FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
10:38:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST IN SUMMATION, I'M WILLING TO
10:38:46 SUPPORT THIS THIS YEAR.
10:38:47 I'D LOVE FOR US TO STUDY THE POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING THIS
10:38:51 BACK IN HOUSE.
10:38:54 I THINK WITH ALL THE DATA OUT THERE AND ALL THE SERVICES
10:38:57 THAT PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR AND PUT THEIR RESUMÉS ON AND THAT
10:39:02 SORT OF THING FOR TEMP AND PERMANENT, I THINK WE CAN
10:39:05 PROBABLY DO THIS IN-HOUSE AND SAVE MONEY.
10:39:09 >> OKAY.
10:39:10 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS THE WHOLE CITY INCLUDING THE
10:39:16 CONVENTION CENTER?
10:39:18 >> WELL, THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS SEPARATE CONTRACTS
10:39:20 THAT THEY DEAL WITH FOR THEIR VENDOR THAT HANDLES FOOD
10:39:27 SERVICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
10:39:28 BUT THIS WOULD BE A BACKFIELD FOR PERMANENT CITY STAFF,
10:39:31 WHEN SOMEBODY IS OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE OR SOMETHING LIKE
10:39:33 THAT.
10:39:34 >> THIS IS A COOPERATIVE BID WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
10:39:39 ALSO WITH THE CLERK OF THE COURT.
10:39:41 SO THEY ARE PARTNERS IN THIS SOLICITATION WITH US.
10:39:43 IT'S BIGGER THAN JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS JUST OURS.
10:39:49 >> YES.
10:39:51 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WERE YOU FINISHED?
10:39:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'LL FIND OUT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT
10:39:56 YEAR WHEN THE DOLLARS AMOUNT COMPARED TO HIRING AND
10:39:59 PAYING ALL THE FRINGES AND SO FORTH.
10:40:02 THAT'S WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT.
10:40:05 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD A QUESTION.
10:40:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN, MY
10:40:09 FRIEND.
10:40:10 YOU COVERED SOMETHING.
10:40:11 39% IS A LOT.
10:40:13 I DON'T CARE HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
10:40:15 IT'S A LOT OF MONEY WE'RE GIVING THESE FOLKS.
10:40:17 DOING GREAT JOB AND WE WANT GOOD COMPANIES TO DO GREAT
10:40:22 WORK FOR US.
10:40:23 SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR BOTTOM LINE, TOO, AND WE
10:40:25 HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THE CITY.
10:40:27 AND TO GIVE THAT KIND OF EXTRA MONEY, I QUESTION THAT.
10:40:31 AGAIN, IT'S ALREADY -- THE DEAL HAS BEEN DRAWN, I'LL BE
10:40:36 LOOKING AT THIS VERY CLOSELY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
10:40:38 THAT'S A VERY HIGH NUMBER FOR ME AND I NEED TO LOOK AT
10:40:42 THAT VERY CLOSELY.
10:40:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE BID.
10:40:45 IT WAS FIVE BIDS.
10:40:46 >> THERE WERE 11 TOTAL.
10:40:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAW 5.
10:40:50 I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THAT YESTERDAY.
10:40:52 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:40:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT.
10:40:56 THE 39% PAYING ABOVE AND BEYOND, IS THAT GOING FOR
10:41:00 BENEFITS, INSURANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:41:02 ARE WE STILL PAYING THAT OUT OF OUR MONIES?
10:41:05 >> NO, SIR.
10:41:05 THEY WOULD NOT BE ENTITLED TO PENSION OR BENEFITS.
10:41:08 IF WE WERE TO HIRE THEM IN THE CITY AS A TEMPORARY
10:41:11 EMPLOYEE AFTER 180 DAYS, THEY WOULD --
10:41:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: -- THAT IS THE COMPANY THAT IS STAFFING
10:41:16 THESE PEOPLE.
10:41:17 THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND THEIR 39%.
10:41:20 >> YES, SIR.
10:41:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ACTUALLY, WE'RE PAYING THE COMPANY AND
10:41:22 THE COMPANY IS PAYING ALL THOSE OTHER BENEFITS.
10:41:25 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:41:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:27 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON -- OKAY, COUNCILMAN
10:41:30 DINGFELDER.
10:41:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO GO
10:41:34 ASTRAY IN THINKING THAT IF THEY ARE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES,
10:41:39 THEY ARE NECESSARILY GETTING HEALTH CARE BENEFITS FROM
10:41:41 THAT TEMPORARY AGENCY.
10:41:43 WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
10:41:44 >> THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT.
10:41:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, THEY'LL PAY THEIR TAXES.
10:41:50 THEY USED TO HAVE A NAME FOR THOSE COMPANIES WHERE THEY
10:41:55 TOOK CARE OF ALL YOUR BOOKKEEPING AND BILLING.
10:41:58 >> PEOs I THINK.
10:42:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, DOESN'T MATTER.
10:42:01 THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YES, THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT
10:42:05 BOOKKEEPING AND THE PAPERWORK, THE WORKERS COMP, PERHAPS,
10:42:08 OR THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
10:42:10 BUT NOT NECESSARILY HEALTH OR RETIREMENT.
10:42:14 >> CORRECT.
10:42:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:42:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:18 DO I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS?
10:42:20 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:42:22 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:42:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:25 ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:26 NEXT WE GO ONWARD TO ITEM 58, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:42:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAD A QUESTION ON THIS.
10:42:39 WE WOULD BE POSSIBLY APPROVING THIS OR APPROVING THIS
10:42:43 TODAY, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
10:42:45 WILLIAMS LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT FOR DITCH MOWING AND
10:42:48 MAINTENANCE.
10:42:48 >> YES.
10:42:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD IT EVER HAPPEN THAT A COMPANY
10:42:53 BEFORE WE APPROVE A CONTRACT, LIKE WE WOULD TODAY, WOULD
10:42:55 THEY ALREADY BE STARTING THE WORK?
10:42:58 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN BEFOREHAND?
10:43:01 >> COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, IT DEPENDS.
10:43:02 WE ACTUALLY HAD A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH THIS WORK WITH
10:43:05 ANOTHER FIRM THAT DEFAULTED ON THE CITY'S CONTRACT.
10:43:09 SO WE WERE IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
10:43:12 KEPT THE DITCHES MOWED AND MAINTAINED SO WE DID NOT HAVE
10:43:17 ANY VIOLATIONS OR COMPLAINTS TO THE CITY.
10:43:19 WE DO ON OCCASION WILL ENGAGE THE PROSPECTIVE AWARDEE ON
10:43:25 AN INTERIM BASIS.
10:43:27 WE DID ENGAGE WILLIAMS ON AN INTERIM BASIS SO WE WOULD
10:43:30 NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALL THE COMPLAINTS AND THE
10:43:32 FLOODING AND THAT TYPE OF THING BECAUSE WE WERE SO FAR
10:43:35 BEHIND.
10:43:35 THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE WORK.
10:43:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE REASON I ASKED THAT, I RECEIVED A
10:43:44 COUPLE OF CALLS FROM FOLKS IN WEST TAMPA AND WHATNOT THAT
10:43:46 THE DITCHES AREN'T BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED.
10:43:49 THEY ARE TRIMMING THE TOP PART BUT NOT FIXING THE CANAL
10:43:51 PART, WHERE THE WATER IS SUPPOSED TO FLOW.
10:43:54 I SAID I WOULD -- I SAW THIS COME UP.
10:43:57 I WANTED TO SEE, DO YOU OR WHO REACHES OUT TO THIS
10:44:01 COMPANY AND SAYS, HEY, WE'RE MONITORING THIS.
10:44:04 WE RECEIVED SOME COMPLAINTS THAT THE WORK IS NOT BEING
10:44:06 PROPERLY DONE.
10:44:07 >> CORRECT.
10:44:07 WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT MONITORING PLAN IN PLACE WITH
10:44:11 ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES.
10:44:12 THE TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH
10:44:15 PURCHASING, HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CONTRACT BECAUSE
10:44:17 COMPLAINTS AND PROBLEMS AND OBSERVATIONS THE CITY WAS
10:44:20 MAKING, THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH.
10:44:23 SO WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE SAID WE NEED TO DISCONTINUE
10:44:27 THIS RELATIONSHIP AND REAWARD SOMEONE WHO CAN DO THE WORK
10:44:31 AND KEEP UP WITH THE CYCLES THAT ARE REQUIRED ON THE
10:44:33 CONTRACT.
10:44:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MONITORING IT.
10:44:35 $539,000.
10:44:36 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY ARE DOING
10:44:39 THE JOB CORRECTLY.
10:44:42 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
10:44:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:44:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR WHATEVER REASON, I NEVER GOT 58 IN
10:44:47 MY PACKET.
10:44:48 IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN A MYSTERY FILE.
10:44:51 THAT'S FINE.
10:44:52 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, I REMEMBER BACK IN JUNE OF '14,
10:44:57 THERE WAS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.
10:44:58 IT WAS ABOUT DITCHES AND STUFF.
10:44:59 WE HIRED A COMPANY, AND IF I RECALL, I'M GOING BACK TO
10:45:04 14, MY MEMORY, ONE-CELL BRAIN OF MINE HAS TO WORK A
10:45:09 LITTLE OVERTIME TODAY, BUT THAT COMPANY, THERE WERE BIDS
10:45:14 THAT WERE 270 SOME THOUSAND, TWO BIDS AND 305,000.
10:45:18 AND THE FOURTH BID WAS 400 SOME THOUSAND.
10:45:21 I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS.
10:45:22 FOUND OUT FROM JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, AND SEPTEMBER, IS
10:45:26 NOTHING WAS DONE.
10:45:27 THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO DO IT.
10:45:29 AND THEREFORE THAT BID WAS -- THEN I REMEMBER TWO OTHER
10:45:33 COMPANIES, TO ME THERE WAS SOMETHING YAKY YAKY BETWEEN
10:45:38 THEM BECAUSE THE BID WAS SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND WE FIND
10:45:40 OUT -- BELIEVE ME, JUST MY MEMORY -- THE BID WAS SO CLOSE
10:45:46 THAT THEY WERE USING THE SAME PERSONNEL, THE SAME
10:45:49 EQUIPMENT ON TWO BIDS WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW.
10:45:51 THOSE TWO WERE TAKEN OUT.
10:45:53 ENDED UP WITH A HIGH BIDDER WHO HAPPENED TO BE THE
10:45:55 INDIVIDUAL, I GUESS IF I REMEMBER CORRECT THAT HAD THE
10:45:58 BID.
10:45:59 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS -- THAT ALL THIS
10:46:04 EQUIPMENT ARE DONE.
10:46:04 BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO INTO A DITCH, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO
10:46:07 CLEAN IT -- THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THIS, JUNE OF '14,
10:46:13 NOT THAT I'M SMART OR ANYTHING ELSE, AND REMEMBER THAT
10:46:15 THE DITCHES HAVE TO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT ON EACH SIDE
10:46:18 CLEARANCE.
10:46:18 YOU HAVE TO GO IN WITH HEAVY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE
10:46:21 SOME DITCHES HERE ALMOST THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM.
10:46:24 NOT AS HIGH, BUT ALMOST AS WIDE AS THIS ROOM THROUGHOUT
10:46:26 THE CITY.
10:46:28 THEY HAD TO DIG THAT UP WITH SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.
10:46:31 THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY.
10:46:32 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMPANY OR ANY OTHER
10:46:34 COMPANY THAT MAKES A BID HAS ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
10:46:36 THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ATTESTING TO, CORRECT?
10:46:39 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
10:46:41 THE TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE AN
10:46:43 OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE COMPANY, THEIR EQUIPMENT AND
10:46:46 PERSONNEL, AND THEY ARE CONFIDENT THIS COMPANY CAN DO THE
10:46:50 WORK.
10:46:50 THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD A CONTRACT FOR THIS SERVICE BEFORE.
10:46:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, MR. SPEARMAN.
10:46:58 JUST CURIOUS, THIS CONTRACT, IS IT FALLING UNDER OUR
10:47:03 RIGHT-OF-WAYS AS WELL?
10:47:05 I SEE MOWING, MAINTENANCE, FALLING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:47:09 I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT MOWS NOT BEING DONE,
10:47:13 ESPECIALLY 40th STREET AREA.
10:47:15 CONSTANT COMPLAINTS.
10:47:21 IS THIS A PART OF THAT CONTRACT?
10:47:22 >>GREG SPEARMAN: WE HAVE TO LOOK, COUNCILMAN GUDES, AT
10:47:25 THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:47:27 WE DO HAVE SOME ROADS IN THE CITY AND SOME THAT ARE IN
10:47:30 THE COUNTY.
10:47:30 AND SO UNLESS WE KNOW THE SPECIFIC LOCATION YOU'RE
10:47:34 TALKING ABOUT, I CAN'T BE CERTAIN THAT WOULD INCLUDE
10:47:38 THOSE LOCATIONS.
10:47:39 THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR DITCH MOWING, NOT THE
10:47:41 RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
10:47:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:47:43 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
10:47:44 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION, ITEM 58.
10:47:49 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:51 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:47:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:47:53 ANY OPPOSED?
10:47:53 THANK YOU.
10:47:55 WE GO BACK TO ITEM 67.
10:48:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
10:48:05 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:48:06 FOR ITEM NUMBER 67, IT'S REZ 19-47, STAFF IS REQUESTING A
10:48:11 CONTINUANCE FOR THIS CASE AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
10:48:13 APPLICANT TO MAKE THE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THE PD THAT
10:48:17 WERE REQUIRED AT THE FIRST READING.
10:48:19 SO I'M REQUESTING IF THEY COULD BE MOVED TO
10:48:23 SEPTEMBER 19th.
10:48:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THE APPLICANT I ASSUME IS AMENABLE.
10:48:27 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, AND THEY ARE PRESENT.
10:48:30 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE THAT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON
10:48:32 ITEM 67, THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
10:48:36 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, A SECOND BY
10:48:39 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:48:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, THE DATE -- THE TIME, EXCUSE
10:48:42 ME.
10:48:43 9:30 A.M.
10:48:47 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: SEPTEMBER 19, 9:30 A.M.
10:48:49 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
10:48:51 ANY OPPOSED?
10:48:52 THANK YOU.
10:48:53 ITEM 68.
10:49:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN,
10:49:04 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
10:49:05 ITEM 68 IS REZ 19-48.
10:49:08 A REZONING REQUEST TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
10:49:10 THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
10:49:18 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:49:21 I'M WITH HIGH POINT ENGINEERING IN TAMPA ON BEHALF OF CSE
10:49:26 PROPERTIES, THE APPLICANT.
10:49:28 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:49:30 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:49:32 BEING NONE, IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON
10:49:35 ITEM 68?
10:49:36 MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:49:38 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:42 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:49:44 ANY OPPOSED?
10:49:45 I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING
10:49:49 ITEM 68.
10:49:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:49:53 FILE REZ 19-48, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:49:57 READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
10:49:59 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5401 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 1526
10:50:04 WEST MOHAWK AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:50:06 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
10:50:09 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL,
10:50:12 SINGLE-FAMILY) AND PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) TO CG
10:50:15 (COMMERCIAL GENERAL); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:18 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:50:19 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:50:21 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:50:29 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH
10:50:30 MANISCALCO ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:50:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:33 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 69.
10:50:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
10:50:39 ITEM NUMBER 69, REZ 19-54.
10:50:44 STAFF REQUESTS THIS ITEM ALSO BE CONTINUED IN AN EFFORT
10:50:47 TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE REQUIRED CHANGES.
10:50:50 STAFF IS REQUESTING THIS CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 5, 2019
10:50:54 HEARING IN THESE CHAMBERS AT 9:30 A.M.
10:50:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:00 PETITIONER I ASSUME IS AMENABLE?
10:51:02 >> YES, SIR.
10:51:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:03 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:51:05 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 69 ON THE
10:51:07 CONTINUANCE ONLY?
10:51:09 DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
10:51:12 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:51:15 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CONTINUE.
10:51:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:51:17 ANY OPPOSED?
10:51:18 OKAY.
10:51:19 NEXT WE MOVE TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:51:22 WE GO TO ITEM 70.
10:51:29 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:51:32 JAN McLEAN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:51:37 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO OPEN 70 THROUGH 74,
10:51:40 OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THIS TIME?
10:51:42 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:51:45 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:51:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:51:47 ANY OPPOSED?
10:51:48 >>JAN McLEAN: ITEM NUMBER 70 IS THE ADOPTION OF THE
10:51:54 ANNUAL ROLL FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:51:56 ASSESSMENT.
10:51:57 AS I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF YOU AND THE REMAINDER HAVE
10:52:01 ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE APPEAR IN FRONT OF
10:52:03 YOU EACH YEAR, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
10:52:06 NOTICING THIS PUBLIC HEARING WHERE YOU WILL ADOPT THE
10:52:09 ANNUAL ROLL, WHICH WE WOULD THEN CERTIFY TO THE TAX
10:52:13 COLLECTOR SO HE CAN SEND OUT THE BILLS FOR THE
10:52:16 ASSESSMENT.
10:52:17 THIS IS FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:52:18 ASSESSMENT.
10:52:19 THERE'S ALSO BEEN A MEMORANDUM WITH ANY LETTERS OF
10:52:22 COMMENT OR OBJECTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED, SUBMITTED FOR
10:52:26 RECEIVE AND FILE AS PART OF THE ADDENDUM, AND I'M HERE
10:52:29 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:52:30 YOU DO HAVE TO TAKE YOUR VOTE WITHIN THE PUBLIC HEARING
10:52:34 BEFORE IT'S CLOSED.
10:52:37 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY, DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
10:52:40 EACH OF THE ITEMS?
10:52:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:52:42 ALSO, COUNCIL, WHAT I'D ASK YOU TO DO FOR PURPOSES OF THE
10:52:46 FILE ARE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CD AND THE LETTERS OF
10:52:50 COMMENTS AND OBJECTIONS BEFORE YOU TAKE YOUR VOTE SO
10:52:51 THAT'S PART OF THE RECORD.
10:52:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY WE DO THAT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:52:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:52:54 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
10:52:56 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:52:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:00 ANY OPPOSED?
10:53:01 OKAY.
10:53:01 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 70, IF SO,
10:53:05 PLEASE COME FORWARD.
10:53:06 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE -- ANYONE HERE WISH TO MOVE
10:53:17 THIS RESOLUTION?
10:53:19 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:53:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:53:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:24 ANY OPPOSED?
10:53:24 OKAY.
10:53:26 AND MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:53:28 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:53:30 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:53:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:33 ANY OPPOSED?
10:53:38 >>JAN McLEAN: JAN McLEAN WITH THE OFFICE OF CITY
10:53:40 ATTORNEY.
10:53:40 ITEM NUMBER 71, AGAIN, WE ARE HERE FOR THE ADOPTION OF
10:53:45 THE ANNUAL ROLL FOR THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
10:53:48 WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PUBLICATION.
10:53:50 RECEIVED THE LETTERS OF COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS, ALL OF
10:53:52 WHICH HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY STAFF, AND THIS, AGAIN,
10:53:57 WOULD BE THE ROLL THAT'S CERTIFIED TO THE TAX COLLECTOR
10:53:59 FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE BILLS.
10:54:00 THIS IS THE ANNUAL PROCESS FOR THE CITYWIDE SERVICE
10:54:04 ASSESSMENT.
10:54:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:54:05 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:54:06 COUNCIL DINGFELDER.
10:54:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, JAN.
10:54:09 SO ITEM 70 SPECIFICALLY CARVED OUT A CENTRAL AND LOWER
10:54:14 BASIN AREAS AS COMPARED TO 71 WHICH IS CITYWIDE.
10:54:18 WHY THE DIFFERENTIATION?
10:54:19 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:54:21 >>JAN McLEAN: NUMBER 71 IS SURFACE ASSESSMENT ESTABLISHED
10:54:24 WITH THE UTILITY IN 2003.
10:54:26 THIS IS TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE
10:54:30 ENTIRE STORMWATER SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
10:54:33 THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE CENTRAL AND LOWER BASIN IS
10:54:37 FOR THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE PROGRAM
10:54:39 THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO YEARS AGO -- THREE YEARS AGO
10:54:44 NOW, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED, PROGRAM OF
10:54:48 251 MILLION DOLLARS' WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT WILL BE DONE
10:54:51 WITHIN THE CENTRAL BASIN.
10:54:54 AND SO, THEREFORE, WE DON'T IMPOSE THE ASSESSMENT OUTSIDE
10:54:57 THE BASIN BECAUSE THOSE PROPERTIES WOULD NOT BE RECEIVING
10:55:01 THE BENEFIT.
10:55:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:55:03 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:55:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:55:05 ANYONE -- AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:55:06 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 71?
10:55:09 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
10:55:11 OKAY.
10:55:13 BEING NONE --
10:55:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, PLEASE, A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
10:55:17 FILE THE DOCUMENTS.
10:55:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:55:18 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:55:21 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:55:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:24 ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:25 ANYONE WISH TO TAKE THIS RESOLUTION, MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
10:55:28 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:55:30 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:55:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:33 ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:33 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM 71.
10:55:35 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:55:38 WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:55:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:41 ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:42 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 72.
10:55:45 >>SAL TERRITO: SAL TERRITO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:55:51 ITEM 72 IS THE DOWNTOWN ASSESSMENT.
10:55:53 HERE IS SOMEBODY FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP TO DISCUSS
10:55:57 THAT WITH YOU.
10:55:58 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:56:00 I'M LYNDA REMUND WITH THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP,
10:56:04 PRESIDENT AND CEO.
10:56:06 OFFICES 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:56:08 I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION
10:56:12 OF A SPECIAL SERVICES, SPECIAL ASSESSMENT SERVICES
10:56:15 AGREEMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU FOR A NON-AD VALOREM THROUGH
10:56:19 THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE
10:56:21 SET FORTH IN YOUR WORK PLAN AND BUDGETS THAT ARE BEFORE
10:56:24 YOU.
10:56:24 OUR BUDGET WILL REMAIN AT THE SAME FORMULA IT HAS BEEN
10:56:29 SINCE 1996, AND THAT IS $1.10 PER THOUSAND DOLLARS OF
10:56:34 ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES THIS NEXT YEAR, FISCAL YEAR '20,
10:56:38 OUR BUDGET IS EXPECTED TO BE JUST UNDER 3.2 MILLION.
10:56:41 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:43 WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
10:56:45 THANK YOU.
10:56:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:56:52 >> APOLOGIES FOR THE FALSE START.
10:56:54 GOOD MORNING.
10:56:55 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS
10:56:57 MORNING.
10:56:57 KEVIN PLUMMER, CURRENT CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF THE TAMPA
10:57:00 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
10:57:01 I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE 2019-2020 BUDGET PRESENTED
10:57:04 TO YOU BY THE PARTNERSHIP, AS IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO
10:57:08 PROVIDE SERVICES AND LEADERSHIP FOR THE SPECIAL SERVICES
10:57:10 DISTRICT.
10:57:11 SINCE 1986, THE PARTNERSHIP HAS SERVED AS TAMPA'S
10:57:14 DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COMMUNITY CONNECTOR.
10:57:16 OUR WORK STRENGTHENS TAMPA AS A CITY TO LIVE, WORK, PLAY,
10:57:21 AND LEARN IN.
10:57:22 YES, THE PARTNERSHIP IS WELL KNOWN FOR ITS CLEAN AND SAFE
10:57:24 PROGRAM.
10:57:26 ITS CLEAN TEAM IS A DEDICATED GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS WHO
10:57:29 ARE WELL RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR ROLE AS COMMUNITY
10:57:32 AMBASSADORS.
10:57:32 THEY ARE WILLING TO LEND A HELPING HAND, OFFER
10:57:35 DIRECTIONS, ASSIST STRANDED MOTORISTS AND ACCOMPANY THOSE
10:57:39 WHO SIMPLY SEEK AN ENHANCED FEELING OF SAFETY AND
10:57:41 SECURITY.
10:57:42 BUT THE PARTNERSHIP DOES SO MUCH MORE.
10:57:44 THE SSD WAS FORMED IN 1994.
10:57:46 THE ANNUAL CONTRACT PROVIDES FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE
10:57:48 WORK OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT FACILITATES CONVERSATIONS
10:57:52 AND INITIATIVES FOR DOWNTOWN'S ENRICHMENT THAT ARE ABOVE
10:57:56 AND BEYOND WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY OUR OTHER CIVIC
10:57:59 ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES WHOSE HEAVY LOAD OF
10:58:02 RESPONSIBILITIES PRECLUDE THEM FROM FOCUSING ON SOME OF
10:58:04 THE DAILY ASPECTS OF CITY LIFE.
10:58:07 PARTNERSHIP ROUTINELY OFFERS INITIATIVES THAT BRING
10:58:10 DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TOGETHER.
10:58:12 WE ADMINISTER FOCUSED INFORMATIONAL SERIES, PUBLIC SPACE
10:58:17 ACTIVATION AND EVENTS.
10:58:18 THE PARTNERSHIP'S COMMITTEE STRUCTURE PROVIDES ADDITIONAL
10:58:21 OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE
10:58:24 PROSPECTING OF DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES AND INTERESTS.
10:58:27 OUR DEVELOPMENT FORUMS AND MEMBER MIXERS ARE
10:58:29 INFORMATIONAL AND SOCIAL INITIATIVES THAT ALLOW BUSINESS
10:58:32 LEADERS TO HEAR FROM THEIR PEERS, PEERS WHO SHARE RICH
10:58:36 DATA AND THE PERSPECTIVES ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE
10:58:38 BUSINESS CLIMATE, AND PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE
10:58:41 FUTURE THAT LEND THEMSELVES TO STRATEGIC PLANNING.
10:58:46 IT'S EFFORTS LIKE THESE THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF
10:58:48 THE DOWNTOWNER, THE PARKING STUDY THAT WAS RELEASED LAST
10:58:50 YEAR, AND FURTHER SUPPORT FOR THE SCOOTERS.
10:58:52 WE ADVOCATE, DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION, WE HOST AN
10:58:57 INFORMATIVE AND INTERACTIVE WEBSITE AND INSPIRE TO BE AN
10:59:00 INCUBATOR FOR IDEAS AND DESIGN THINKING THAT WILL ENHANCE
10:59:04 THE DOWNTOWN EXPERIENCE.
10:59:05 WE PROUDLY SEEK TO FOSTER RELATIONSHIPS AND BRING
10:59:07 TOGETHER THOUGHT LEADERS WHO WILL CREATE THE IDEAS AND
10:59:10 THE MOMENTUM FOR A DIVERSE 24/7 DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY.
10:59:14 THE PROJECTS CREATED BY SOHO CAPITAL, WATER STREET, HALL
10:59:18 ON FRANKLIN AND RELATED GROUP ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF
10:59:21 PROJECTS THAT I HAVE A PROFOUND RESPECT FOR.
10:59:23 PROJECTS LIKE THESE ARE LED BY INTELLIGENT AND THOUGHTFUL
10:59:28 ENTREPRENEURS AND PIONEERS DEVELOPING MODERN AND FORWARD
10:59:30 THINKING EXAMPLES OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF COMMUNITY
10:59:32 ASSETS AND RESOURCES.
10:59:33 THIS BUDGET ASKS THAT YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AN
10:59:37 ORGANIZATION WHOSE BASIC PREMISE IS TO PROVIDE
10:59:40 LEADERSHIP, ACTIVITIES, EFFORTS THAT WILL BRING HARMONY,
10:59:43 CONSISTENCY, AND COHESION TO THE DOWNTOWN EXPERIENCE.
10:59:45 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
10:59:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:59:48 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:59:48 ALMOST THERE, SIR.
10:59:53 IF YOU'RE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 72 THAT
10:59:58 WE'RE ON, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
11:00:00 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.
11:00:01 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:00:03 >> MY NAME IS ADAM HARDEN.
11:00:05 I'M HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF SOHO CAPITAL.
11:00:08 IN ADDITION, I SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY
11:00:10 DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE
11:00:14 HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF THE RIVER, NORTH OF THE
11:00:17 INTERSTATE.
11:00:19 I THINK WE ALL KNOW AS ARMATURE WORKS, THE NEW OFFICE
11:00:23 COMPLEX.
11:00:24 FIRST POINT OF ORDER, I HAVE BROUGHT THREE PEOPLE HERE
11:00:30 SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS WELL AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO CEDE
11:00:34 THEIR TIME TO ME.
11:00:35 >>LUIS VIERA: TURN OFF THE CLOCK FOR ONE SECOND.
11:00:37 MR. SHELBY, IS THAT PERMISSIBLE WITH THIS?
11:00:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES WITH A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM IS THE
11:00:43 PROCESS WE FOLLOW, IF THE COUNCIL WISHES.
11:00:45 >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
11:00:47 >> NO, SIR, WE DON'T.
11:00:48 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY WE PROCEED WITH IT IF WE VERIFY THE
11:00:51 PEOPLE ARE HERE?
11:00:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WHO ARE THE THREE PEOPLE?
11:00:57 >> BROCK, LAUREN --
11:00:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU CLEARLY STATE THEIR NAME.
11:01:01 >> LAUREN MOOSER, CHAZ BROCK AND JULIA STUART.
11:01:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU THOSE THREE PEOPLE WHO WAIVED
11:01:07 THEIR TIME?
11:01:09 >> YES.
11:01:10 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW MANY MINUTES DOES THAT MAKE?
11:01:14 >> TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.
11:01:16 >> IS THAT 12 MINUTES?
11:01:18 >> 6.
11:01:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SET THREE MINUTES.
11:01:21 THEY EACH CEDE ONE --
11:01:26 >> I'LL TALK FAST.
11:01:27 IN KEEPING, YOU KNOW, FIRST TO STATE WHAT I'M HERE TO
11:01:31 ACCOMPLISH, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PASS THE SPECIAL SERVICE
11:01:35 AGREEMENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP TODAY.
11:01:36 BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO REQUEST THAT OUR PROJECT, THE
11:01:39 HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT, THAT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND FOLIO
11:01:43 NUMBERS FOR THAT BE REMOVED FROM THE SPECIAL SERVICE
11:01:46 DISTRICT.
11:01:47 WE CAME DOWN HERE LAST YEAR TO MAKE THAT REQUEST, AND,
11:01:51 UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE HEARING GOT HANDLED, THE BOARD
11:01:57 WAS TOLD THERE WERE TWO HEARINGS AND THEN THEY CLOSED THE
11:01:59 FIRST ONE AND VOTED ON IT, AND SAL MADE A MISTAKE, SO WE
11:02:02 DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK.
11:02:03 WE CONCEDED THE ISSUE, MADE THE PAYMENT, AND JUST ASKED
11:02:05 FOR NO SERVICES.
11:02:06 NO SERVICES WERE PROVIDED.
11:02:08 NOW WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU AGAIN THIS YEAR.
11:02:12 I'D LIKE TO FIRST DESCRIBE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AT THE
11:02:15 HEIGHTS AND WHY WE BELIEVE --
11:02:19 I'M ALSO GOING TO END THIS PRESENTATION WITH AN OFFER FOR
11:02:21 THE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ENTER INTO
11:02:25 A SEPARATE SPECIAL AGREEMENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN
11:02:28 PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT WE NEED IN THE
11:02:32 DEVELOPMENT, RATHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOR THE
11:02:35 DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH IS REALLY MORE SPECIFIC TO THE
11:02:37 DOWNTOWN.
11:02:37 THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING -- BEING ASKED TO VOTE
11:02:43 ON TODAY I THINK HAS KEY RECITALS IN IT THAT KIND OF GO
11:02:49 TO THIS POINT.
11:02:50 WHAT WE ASSESS UPON EACH SUCH NONEXEMPT PROPERTY IN
11:02:53 REASONABLE PROPORTION TO THE BENEFITS TO BE DERIVED
11:02:56 THEREFROM.
11:02:57 THE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT
11:02:59 --
11:02:59 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:03:01 LET'S STOP THE CLOCK.
11:03:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:03:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MONITORS, PLEASE.
11:03:14 >> THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING, THAT YOU'RE
11:03:16 BEING ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON.
11:03:18 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE -- MAKE A COUPLE OF
11:03:21 POINTS AND THEN REALLY TALK TO YOU HIGH LEVEL ABOUT WHAT
11:03:24 WE'RE DOING AT THE HEIGHTS.
11:03:26 AGAIN, WE'RE DIFFERENTLY SITUATED.
11:03:28 WE HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD
11:03:31 IN THE FORM OF AN 89-PAGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A
11:03:37 SUBSEQUENT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE
11:03:39 HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WHERE WE'RE
11:03:41 ALREADY OBLIGED TO SUPPLY CERTAIN SERVICES THAT WOULD
11:03:44 OVERLAP WITH WHAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP IS.
11:03:46 THAT SAID, WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
11:03:49 WE'RE MEMBERS AND WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE THE DISTRICT HAVE
11:03:52 A PUBLIC MEETING AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A LONG-TERM
11:03:57 AGREEMENT WITH THE PARTNERSHIP FOR THINGS WE FEEL LIKE
11:03:59 ENHANCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
11:04:01 AGAIN, SCOPE OF SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED THAT YOU'RE
11:04:05 VOTING ON TODAY, WE CAN SEE THAT THESE INCLUDE ITEMS
11:04:11 WHICH THE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND THE
11:04:13 DEVELOPER OF THE HEIGHTS HAVE ALREADY OBLIGED THEMSELVES
11:04:16 TO PERFORM UNDER THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT
11:04:19 THAT I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT.
11:04:21 AGAIN, IN REASONABLE PROPORTION IN THE AMOUNT OF THE
11:04:38 ASSESSMENT ASSESSED.
11:04:40 I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ISSUE.
11:04:43 I THINK PROBABLY YOU'LL FIND THAT IN THE FUTURE, THIS
11:04:45 ISSUE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH WATERS STREET AS WELL WHEN
11:04:48 THEY START TO DEVELOP.
11:04:49 HERE'S A COPY -- I'LL GO OUT OF ORDER HERE BECAUSE I
11:04:56 THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE 12 MINUTES.
11:04:58 THIS IS THE RECORDED O & M AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH
11:05:02 THE CITY.
11:05:04 THERE'S THE RECITAL RECOGNIZING THAT WE'LL UNDERTAKE THE
11:05:09 OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH
11:05:11 WE'VE BONDED AND INSTALLED NOW.
11:05:13 HERE IS THE SCHEDULE THAT INCLUDES WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.
11:05:19 YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRICT, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE
11:05:22 KEY ISSUES HERE.
11:05:23 THESE REALLY GO STRAIGHT TO THE -- ISSUE, AND AS YOU CAN
11:05:29 SEE, YOU KNOW, PARKS, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE IS ALSO OUTLINED.
11:05:35 MONUMENTATION, DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE IS ALSO OUTLINED IN
11:05:39 THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT.
11:05:40 BASICALLY HARDSCAPE, LANDSCAPING, AND IRRIGATION, THE
11:05:47 DISTRICT HAS A LONG-TERM CONTRACT TO MAINTAIN THE WHOLE
11:05:50 DISTRICT, WHICH IS 50 GROSS ACRES, 32 NET DEVELOPABLE
11:05:53 ACRES.
11:05:54 WE'RE ALREADY OBLIGED TO THAT.
11:05:56 WE MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS.
11:05:57 I THINK IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH, I THINK YOU'LL AGREE WE'RE
11:06:01 DOING A DECENT JOB WITH IT.
11:06:03 TO 30,000 FEET, WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?
11:06:08 WE CAME TO YOU A FEW YEARS BACK.
11:06:12 WE ASKED TO REDO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE
11:06:15 ENTITLEMENTS AND SAID THAT THE STORY OF THE HEIGHTS WOULD
11:06:18 BE ABOUT JOB CREATION.
11:06:19 SO WE HAD THREE BROWNFIELDS TO REMEDIATE AND A 68,000
11:06:24 SQUARE FOOT HISTORIC BUILDING TO RENOVATE, AND WE
11:06:28 VISIONED THAT AND CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT WE FELT LIKE
11:06:31 WOULD HELP US TO BE THAT PLACE THAT COULD RECRUIT NEW
11:06:37 JOBS TO THE HEIGHTS.
11:06:37 WE -- AS PART OF THAT, WE BUILT A TEAM AROUND THE
11:06:46 PROJECT.
11:06:47 WE OPENED ARMATURE WORKS.
11:06:49 YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU KNOW, A PICTURE OF THE SITE OF THE
11:06:53 NEW ENTRANCE TO THE PARK THAT WE'VE CONSTRUCTED TO
11:06:56 ACCOMMODATE SCOOTERS, AND IT WAS JUST CLEANED THERE.
11:07:01 YOU CAN SEE OUR CLEANING CREW HERE ALONG THE PUBLIC
11:07:06 SIDEWALK WITH THEIR BLOWERS AND THAT ACTIVITY TAKES PLACE
11:07:10 DAILY.
11:07:10 THEY ALSO PRESSURE WASH ALL THE SIDEWALKS.
11:07:13 IS THAT MY SIX MINUTES?
11:07:16 >> 30 SECONDS, I BELIEVE.
11:07:19 >> AGAIN, CLEANING CREW.
11:07:22 THE SECURITY TEAM.
11:07:23 OUR MARKETING AND SPECIAL EVENTS TEAMS.
11:07:29 THESE ARE SOME OF THE OUTCOMES OF OUR MARKETING EFFORTS.
11:07:36 WE PASSED 70,000 INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS.
11:07:41 WE PUT THE FREE PUBLIC EVENTS WE SPONSOR --
11:07:44 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO FINISH.
11:07:46 >> I MOVE TO GIVE HIM AN ADDITIONAL TWO OR THREE MINUTES
11:07:48 TO WRAP UP.
11:07:50 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA THREE MINUTES, SIR,
11:07:54 BUT THEN THAT'S IT.
11:07:55 >> THANK YOU.
11:07:55 I THINK AS PART OF THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE TO THE
11:08:00 NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WE WOULD ACTIVATE THIS AREA.
11:08:02 AGAIN, ARMATURE WORKS WAS A $23 MILLION EFFORT.
11:08:08 WE USED THAT FACILITY AS A RECRUITING TOOL.
11:08:10 I SAT THERE IN THE MARKET WITH THE CEO OF A NASDAQ
11:08:15 COMPANY, TOE TO TOE, AND THEY ARE LIKE, THIS PLACE IS
11:08:19 COOL.
11:08:20 WE WANT TO MOVE HERE.
11:08:20 THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF THIS TEAM THAT WE'VE BUILT AND
11:08:24 THESE FUNDS WE EXPEND.
11:08:26 THESE ARE CURRENT SPECIAL EVENT SCHEDULE.
11:08:31 I KNOW THAT AGAIN, WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN
11:08:34 PARTNERSHIP.
11:08:35 WE'RE HERE TO OFFER TODAY TO REQUEST TO BE REMOVED FROM
11:08:38 THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THIS YEAR.
11:08:41 WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE JUST AN UNCONDITIONAL -- DONATION
11:08:46 FOR NO SERVICES THIS YEAR AND TO REQUEST THEN TO REPORT
11:08:51 BACK TO YOU IN 60 DAYS ONCE THE DISTRICT IS ABLE TO MEET
11:08:55 AND COME UP WITH AN OUTLINE FOR AN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN
11:09:00 ENTER INTO THE PARTNERSHIP FOR LONG TERM.
11:09:01 I BROUGHT THE DISTRICT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
11:09:04 DISTRICT'S ATTORNEY WITH ME.
11:09:05 HE'S WRITTEN A MEMORANDUM, WHICH I BELIEVE MR. DINGFELDER
11:09:10 HAS A COPY OF AND I SENT TO THE CHAIRMAN, OUTLINING THE
11:09:14 LEGALITY OF THE DISTRICT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
11:09:17 I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE DISTRICT.
11:09:18 THE VICE-CHAIRMAN IS HERE.
11:09:20 OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION AT A
11:09:22 PUBLIC HEARING AND HAS TO BE PASSED BY A MAJORITY VOTE.
11:09:25 BUT THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL.
11:09:26 WITH REGARDS TO THE ACTIVATION ITEMS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE
11:09:30 THE MONTHLY AND BIWEEKLY EVENTS THAT WE RUN.
11:09:36 THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE, YOU CAN SEE -- MOMS & TOTS -- IF
11:09:41 I SAY WE DO ANYTHING, I REALLY MEAN THEM.
11:09:44 SO I'M BRAGGING ON THEM.
11:09:47 I THINK THIS PROBABLY -- FAIRLY AMAZING THE NUMBER OF
11:09:52 PEOPLE THIS BRINGS TO THE UPPER DOWNTOWN AREA.
11:09:56 HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THIS ACTIVATION.
11:10:04 THIS IS THE RUN CLUB.
11:10:05 THAT WAS LAST NIGHT.
11:10:06 BIWEEKLY 5K.
11:10:09 YOGA ON THE LAWN.
11:10:12 THE HEIGHTS NIGHT MARKET.
11:10:16 THIS WAS THE FALL FESTIVAL.
11:10:18 WE'RE SEEKING TO ENGAGE WITH GMF ON THIS FESTIVAL THIS
11:10:22 YEAR.
11:10:22 HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THEM
11:10:26 TO REALLY ADVANCE THIS.
11:10:27 THE HEIGHTS SPRING FESTIVAL.
11:10:31 THE HEIGHTS FOURTH OF JULY FESTIVAL.
11:10:33 FIREWORKS.
11:10:35 OUR TREE-LIGHTING CEREMONY.
11:10:37 MR. AND MRS. CLAUS.
11:10:44 OUR POINT IS WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOUBLE TAXED IF WE'RE
11:10:47 WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN
11:10:49 MARKETING EFFORTS AND WE'D ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:10:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:53 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:10:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:10:55 MAY I HAVE SOME ADVICE FROM LEGAL, IF I COULD.
11:10:58 IS THIS QUITE THE FORUM FOR MR. HARDEN'S GROUP TO REQUEST
11:11:04 THAT THEY WITHDRAW FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP OR ARE
11:11:09 THERE OTHER WAYS IN WHICH MR. HARDEN AND HIS GROUP ARE
11:11:13 SUPPOSED TO DO THIS?
11:11:14 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO DO THIS.
11:11:17 WE'RE JUST HERE --
11:11:20 >>SAL TERRITO: SAL TERRITO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:11:23 THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO MAKE THE REQUEST.
11:11:25 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF IT WAS DONE EARLIER BECAUSE
11:11:27 THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER IT.
11:11:30 BUT THIS IS THE PLACE FOR THE REQUEST.
11:11:31 HE'S INDICATING THAT HE'S DOING SOME OF THE WORK THAT THE
11:11:34 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP IS SAYING THEY'RE DOING.
11:11:35 MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ASK THE DOWNTOWN
11:11:37 PARTNERSHIP IF THERE IS ANY OVERLAP IN WHAT IT IS THEY
11:11:40 ARE PROVIDING, WHAT SERVICES.
11:11:43 SOME OF THE SERVICES HE MENTIONED I'M NOT SURE UNDER HIS
11:11:46 PURVIEW AND NOT SURE IF THERE IS AN OVERLAP, IF THERE IS
11:11:49 ONE.
11:11:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE ARE TO DISCUSS THAT, ISN'T THERE A
11:11:52 30-DAY PERIOD FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THIS
11:11:57 RESOLUTION?
11:11:58 >>SAL TERRITO: TODAY, THERE IS NOT.
11:11:59 THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR YOU TO HAVE TO GET THIS TO THE
11:12:05 PROPERTY APPRAISER, TAX COLLECTOR, AND IT IS THE
11:12:06 BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, SO THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY OTHER
11:12:07 TIME.
11:12:08 YOUR DECISION TODAY IS A TOUGH ONE.
11:12:09 THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PULL OUT THIS
11:12:11 YEAR AND TRY TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR.
11:12:14 IT'S AN ALL-OR-NOTHING THING.
11:12:16 IF YOU ALLOW HIM TO BE REMOVED, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH
11:12:18 THE PERHAPS I THINK AVAILABLE AND CHANGE THE FOLIOS THAT
11:12:20 WILL BE GOING BEFORE THE TAX COLLECTOR SO THEY HAVE ALL
11:12:23 THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
11:12:24 BUT TODAY IS THE DAY YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
11:12:27 IF IT'S MADE TODAY, THEN THEY ARE OUT.
11:12:29 AND IF IT'S NOT MADE TODAY, THEN THEY ARE IN AND THEN
11:12:32 WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE LATER.
11:12:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE.
11:12:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. TERRITO, I THINK
11:12:41 YOU MISHEARD MR. HARDEN.
11:12:44 I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANY DESIRE TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR AS
11:12:46 PART OF THE SSD.
11:12:48 I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS HE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK
11:12:50 WITHIN 60 DAYS WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL FOR A SIDE
11:12:56 AGREEMENT THAT MR. MALLOY HAS GIVEN HIS LEGAL BLESSING,
11:13:01 TOO.
11:13:02 OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
11:13:04 THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE IN FRONT OF US.
11:13:06 >>SAL TERRITO: I HEARD TWO THINGS, HE WANTED OUT THIS
11:13:08 YEAR AND THINKING ABOUT COMING BACK NEXT YEAR.
11:13:10 I HEARD HE WANTS TO MAKE A SPECIAL AGREEMENT WITH THE
11:13:12 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP INDEPENDENT OF THIS AGREEMENT.
11:13:15 HE CAN CLARIFY.
11:13:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE CAN CLARIFY BECAUSE HE'S SHAKING
11:13:19 HIS HEAD NO BEHIND YOU, THAT YOU CAN'T SEE.
11:13:23 HE HAS NO INTENTION OR DESIRE, HE AND HIS ORGANIZATION
11:13:26 HAVE NO INTENTION OR DESIRE COMING BACK NEXT YEAR.
11:13:29 I DON'T WANT ANY CONFUSION ON THAT.
11:13:33 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. HARDEN, CAN YOU COME UP AND CLARIFY
11:13:36 YOUR POSITION IN 45 SECONDS.
11:13:39 >> YES, SIR.
11:13:39 THANK YOU.
11:13:40 WE WOULD LIKE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL
11:13:43 SERVICES DISTRICT.
11:13:44 WE'RE NOT IN DOWNTOWN.
11:13:47 WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE BENEFIT FROM THE MARKETING AND SOME
11:13:50 OF THE THINGS THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DOES.
11:13:51 WE'RE A MEMBER.
11:13:52 SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO A SPECIAL SERVICE
11:13:55 AGREEMENT OURSELVES.
11:13:56 THE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT DIRECTLY WITH
11:13:58 THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT THEM IN A ROBUST
11:14:03 WAY.
11:14:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:14:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:06 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:14:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. HARDEN, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE YOU'VE
11:14:10 BEEN PAYING EVERY YEAR INTO THE --
11:14:12 >> SO WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THIS, THE ACTUAL TAX INCREMENT
11:14:18 WAS BELOW THE FLOOR.
11:14:19 SO NOW AS WE CONSTRUCT THINGS, IT WILL RAMP UP QUICKLY.
11:14:24 LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS 17,000.
11:14:26 THIS YEAR, I THINK 60 TO 70 THOUSAND.
11:14:29 NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE MAYBE 200,000.
11:14:31 YOU KNOW, RAMPING UP TO MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS
11:14:35 FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOARDS.
11:14:38 AGAIN, WE ENVISION RUNNING A COMMUNITY THAT'S SIMILAR TO
11:14:41 THE AGREEMENT YOU ENTERED INTO WITH HYDE PARK VILLAGE
11:14:44 WHERE WE HAVE -- WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LANDSCAPING,
11:14:49 THE IRRIGATION, THE ENHANCED FINISHES IN THE
11:14:52 RIGHT-OF-WAYS, WHAT WE CALL THE WALK-OFFS, WHETHER PAVERS
11:14:59 THAT DEFINE THE AREA BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE
11:15:01 PEDESTRIAN THROUGH ZONE.
11:15:02 THESE ARE THINGS AS I SHOWED YOU ON THE SCHEDULE WE
11:15:04 ALREADY HAVE A RECORDED AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE
11:15:07 FOR.
11:15:08 SO IT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF FUNDS TO SAY WE'LL HAVE
11:15:12 SOMEBODY PICK UP LITTER FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP BUT
11:15:15 WE'LL HAVE A FULL LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE CREW WHO HAS TO
11:15:18 REPLACE THE PLANTS, REMULCH, REPAIR THE IRRIGATION,
11:15:21 REPLACE TREES WHEN THEY DIE.
11:15:25 YOU DON'T PARSE THOSE SERVICES.
11:15:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUR ARGUMENT IS, ONE, YOU DON'T FEEL
11:15:30 YOU ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN ZONE.
11:15:31 TWO, YOU'RE DUPLICATING SERVICES WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION
11:15:35 WITH THE PARTNERSHIP, CORRECT?
11:15:37 >> RIGHT.
11:15:37 THAT IS CORRECT.
11:15:38 IN ALL FAIRNESS, IF YOU'RE IN DOWNTOWN, YOU HAVE
11:15:41 UNLIMITED HEIGHT, UNLIMITED DENSITY.
11:15:44 YOUR TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES ARE WAIVED.
11:15:47 WE ARE NOT IN DOWNTOWN.
11:15:48 TELL ME I'M IN DOWNTOWN, I WOULD HAVE SAVED A MILLION
11:15:52 THREE IN IMPACT FEES ON THE TWO LARGE PROJECTS WE JUST
11:15:55 CONSTRUCTED.
11:15:55 BUT WE ARE ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN.
11:16:00 WE DO BENEFIT FROM THINGS THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DOES.
11:16:03 WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
11:16:06 WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD LOOK
11:16:08 AT ACTIVATING WATER WORKS PARK IN A WAY THAT THEY HAVE
11:16:11 ACTIVATED THE DOWNTOWN PARK.
11:16:13 AS I'VE TOLD LYNDA, I WAS AT THE VERY FIRST CONCERT IN
11:16:18 THE PARK.
11:16:19 IT WAS UNDER THE EDGE OF THE EXISTING ART MUSEUM, AND
11:16:22 THERE WERE LIKE 20 PEOPLE THERE.
11:16:24 IT'S TURNED INTO SOMETHING GREAT.
11:16:27 WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
11:16:29 WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE STREET FESTIVALS, SIMILAR TO WHAT
11:16:32 THEY USED TO DO ON TWIGGS, ON FRANKLIN STREET.
11:16:35 WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS.
11:16:36 I THINK WE CAN REALLY WORK OUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
11:16:38 BENEFICIAL THAT WOULD AUGMENT THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE
11:16:40 ALREADY SPENDING AND BE MEANINGFUL.
11:16:44 I BROUGHT THE ATTORNEY HERE, WROTE AN OPINION WE CAN
11:16:47 LEGALLY DO THIS.
11:16:49 I THINK SOMETHING CAME UP IN DISCUSSIONS YESTERDAY THAT
11:16:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BROKERED.
11:16:53 WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT.
11:16:57 I'M ASKING TO BE OUT THIS YEAR.
11:16:59 I'M WILLING TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION UNCONDITIONAL.
11:17:02 WE DON'T WANT ANY SERVICES THIS YEAR TO THE DOWNTOWN
11:17:04 PARTNERSHIP, AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND GIVE YOU A
11:17:13 PROGRESS REPORT IN 60 DAYS ON AN AGREEMENT WE'VE COME UP
11:17:16 WITH TO ENTER INTO THE PARTNERSHIP.
11:17:18 DAN HAS ADVISED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS REGULARLY
11:17:22 ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS THAT ARE SAY FIVE YEARS LONG, TEN
11:17:26 YEARS LONG.
11:17:26 IT'S NOT TO SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO EXTEND IT BEYOND THAT.
11:17:30 I'M SAYING ORDINARY QUASI-GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY BEHAVIOR.
11:17:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:36 MR. SHELBY, WOULD IT BE PERMISSIBLE, I GUESS,
11:17:43 PROCEDURALLY FOR ME -- BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MR. HARDEN
11:17:44 SPEAK, GIVEN THE ROBUST ISSUES HE'S ENTITLED TO -- COULD
11:17:47 WE ASK THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP TO STATE THEIR POSITION
11:17:49 AND RESPOND FOR A FEW MINUTES?
11:17:51 IS THAT PROCEDURALLY --
11:17:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS THE CHAIR'S PLEASURE, COUNCIL
11:17:55 PLEASURE.
11:17:56 NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.
11:17:57 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST MAKING SURE OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF
11:18:00 CAUTION.
11:18:00 IF SOMEBODY FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP WISHES TO REBUT
11:18:04 FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES.
11:18:06 >> HI.
11:18:07 LYNDA REMUND, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
11:18:10 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:18:11 YES, WE'VE SPOKEN AT LENGTH WITH MR. HARDEN, ESPECIALLY
11:18:14 YESTERDAY ON THE SUBJECT.
11:18:16 AND WE FEEL THAT THE SERVICES THAT HE'S PROVIDING ARE ON
11:18:20 HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:18:22 SO OUR OBLIGATION IS TO MAINTAIN THOSE PUBLIC SPACES.
11:18:27 I UNDERSTAND THE GRAPHICS THAT YOU JUST SAW, HE'S -- THE
11:18:32 INFRASTRUCTURE, AS FAR AS THE TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT,
11:18:34 OUR CLEAN TEAM, I'LL JUST OUTLINE THAT THEY DO PUBLIC
11:18:38 SPACES, SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, PRESSURE WASHING, THAT SORT
11:18:40 OF THING, CLEAN THE GUTTERS.
11:18:42 SO THOSE ARE THE SERVICES THAT THEY WOULD PERFORM.
11:18:45 ALSO WE HAVE THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN GUIDES THAT ARE IN THAT
11:18:48 AREA.
11:18:48 AGAIN, THEY WALK ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
11:18:52 THEY DON'T GO ON THE PUBLIC -- I MEAN THE PRIVATE
11:18:54 PROPERTY.
11:18:55 SO THEY WOULD NOT BE INSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF ARMATURE
11:18:59 WORKS BUT THEY WOULD BE ON THE PUBLIC STREETS, HELPING
11:19:01 THE VISITORS AS YOU SAW IN HIS STATEMENTS, ALL THE
11:19:06 VISITORS THAT ARE COMING TO ARMATURE WORKS.
11:19:08 SO IT BENEFITS ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE.
11:19:12 IF HE HAS A STRANDED MOTORIST IN HIS PARKING LOT, THE
11:19:16 GUIDES WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT.
11:19:20 SOMEBODY WHO HAS A LOCKOUT, THEY COULD STAND BY AND HELP
11:19:24 THE PERSON.
11:19:24 IF THE LOT IS OVERFILLED AND THEY HAVE TO PARK REMOTELY,
11:19:28 OUR GUIDES CAN HELP THEM AND WALK THEM TO THAT SAFE
11:19:30 PLACE.
11:19:31 IF THEY HAVE A FLAT TIRE, OUR GUIDES WILL GO ON THE
11:19:33 PROPERTY AND HELP THOSE.
11:19:35 THOSE SERVICES YOU WOULD BE DOING AWAY WITH.
11:19:37 WE HAVE BEEN DOING THOSE SERVICES UP THERE FOR HIM.
11:19:40 I KNOW HE SAID HE HASN'T RECEIVED ANY SERVICES.
11:19:45 HE HAS RECEIVED SERVICES THIS PAST YEAR.
11:19:47 ALSO, THE DOWNTOWNER, WHICH WE'VE HAD FOR THREE YEARS AND
11:19:50 WILL BE TURNING OVER TO HART, THAT'S A BENEFIT THAT IS
11:19:55 BENEFITING HIS CUSTOMERS, BECAUSE THE CUSTOMERS ARE
11:19:58 TAKING THE DOWNTOWN OR DO HIS FACILITY.
11:20:02 ALSO, OUR MARKETING, HE'S IN OUR DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT
11:20:06 GUIDE.
11:20:06 WE DO SEE HIM AS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
11:20:08 HE STATED IN HIS TOPPING OFF TO THE MAYOR, AND IT WAS IN
11:20:12 THE MEDIA, THAT HE WAS VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THE
11:20:15 DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
11:20:16 SO THAT WAS -- THAT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT HE MADE
11:20:20 HIMSELF A WEEK OR SO AGO.
11:20:21 I WILL ALSO SAY THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC SPACE ACTIVATION, AS
11:20:28 HE SAID.
11:20:29 WE DO A LOT OF THAT.
11:20:29 I REALIZE THAT HE IS DOING A LOT OF THAT ON HIS PRIVATE
11:20:33 PROPERTY, BUT WE COULD DO THE ADJACENT PUBLIC SPACE
11:20:37 ACTIVATION FOR HIM.
11:20:38 WE SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT WATER WORKS PARK.
11:20:43 THOSE ARE OTHER THINGS WE WOULD ACTIVATE WITHIN THE AREA.
11:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A
11:20:48 QUESTION.
11:20:48 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:20:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, LYNDA.
11:20:54 ONE, I WANTED TO CLARIFY, MR. HARDEN USED THE TERM
11:20:58 "DINGFELDER BROKERED."
11:21:01 I DIDN'T BROKER ANYTHING.
11:21:02 I JUST CALLED THESE TWO PARTIES TOGETHER FOR COFFEE TO
11:21:06 TRY TO MEDIATE THIS POTENTIAL CONFLICT.
11:21:09 THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE LEFT IT, BUT I WAS GLAD TO DO SO.
11:21:13 HADN'T MADE UP MY MIND, MR. SHELBY, BECAUSE I WANTED TO
11:21:21 HEAR ALL THE TESTIMONY THAT WE'RE HEARING THIS MORNING.
11:21:23 BUT, LYNDA, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM ONE OF MR. HARDEN'S
11:21:33 CONCERNS, BASED UPON YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING TO
11:21:37 HAPPEN IN THAT LARGE PROJECT.
11:21:39 HE SAID, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, 17,000.
11:21:43 THIS YEAR 70,000.
11:21:47 AND THEN A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND PERHAPS NEXT YEAR, AND
11:21:51 THEN POTENTIALLY, AS MR. HARDEN INDICATED, MIGHT GO TO A
11:21:55 MILLION BASED UPON THE VERY LARGE PROJECTS HE HAS THERE.
11:21:59 IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDING?
11:22:02 >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN
11:22:04 DISTRICT.
11:22:05 THAT'S ON RECORD, THAT HAVE EVER PAID A MILLION DOLLARS
11:22:08 INTO THE ASSESSMENT.
11:22:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BASED UPON YOUR MILLAGE AND THEIR
11:22:12 PROJECTIONS, THEIR APPROVALS, THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE, VERY
11:22:18 LIKELY, ISN'T IT?
11:22:20 >> DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS.
11:22:23 AS THE PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED AND AS THEY INCREASE IN
11:22:26 VALUE, NOT HIS MILLAGE RATE, BUT HIS ASSESSMENT WOULD
11:22:30 INCREASE OVER THE YEARS.
11:22:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S NO CAP IN THE ORDINANCE OR
11:22:33 ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:22:34 >> THERE IS NOT.
11:22:35 NOT AT THIS TIME.
11:22:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT
11:22:38 YESTERDAY AND MR. HARDEN MENTIONED TODAY, WAS THE
11:22:41 OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM, EVEN IF THEY MIGHT NOT BE A MEMBER
11:22:45 OF THE DISTRICT BUT THEY'RE ADJACENT, FOR THEM, IF THEY
11:22:48 WERE ALLOWED TO PULL OUT, THAT THEY STILL MIGHT BE ABLE
11:22:51 TO CONTRACT WITH THE DISTRICT WHEREBY THE DISTRICT COULD
11:22:58 SUPPLY SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT MR. HARDEN AND HIS
11:23:01 ORGANIZATION FEEL ARE NEEDED.
11:23:05 AND HE MENTIONED A FEW IN TERMS OF BETTER ACTIVATING THE
11:23:09 WATER WORKS PARK, PERHAPS SOME OTHER MARKETING SERVICES,
11:23:14 THAT SORT OF THING.
11:23:15 I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IS
11:23:18 THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU AND YOUR BOARD MIGHT CONSIDER AS
11:23:23 A NONPROFIT?
11:23:24 YOU'RE A NONPROFIT IN ADDITION TO BEING AN SSD, BUT AS A
11:23:28 NONPROFIT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER?
11:23:32 >>SAL TERRITO: LET ME MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION.
11:23:34 YOU ARE THE SSD.
11:23:35 THEY ARE CONTRACTED.
11:23:36 SO THEY WOULD NOT BE DOING A CONTRACT WITH YOU.
11:23:39 IF MR. HARDEN WANTED TO DO THAT AND THE DOWNTOWN
11:23:42 PARTNERSHIP AMENABLE, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CONTRACT.
11:23:45 YOU ARE THE DISTRICT AND YOU CONTRACT WITH THEM.
11:23:47 IT'S NOT YOU WITH WHOM THEY WOULD CONTRACT.
11:23:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
11:23:51 THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
11:23:52 MY POOR CHOICE OF WORDS.
11:23:55 SO AS A NONPROFIT, YOU COULD -- YOU COULD -- NOT SAYING
11:23:59 WOULD -- BUT YOU COULD ENTERTAIN A SEPARATE NEGOTIATION
11:24:04 WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES
11:24:08 DOWN THERE.
11:24:09 >> IT'S POSSIBLE.
11:24:10 IT'S SOMETHING OUR BOARD WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER.
11:24:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:24:14 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, IF I MAY.
11:24:16 ABOUT HOW MANY MEMBER BUSINESSES DO YOU HAVE?
11:24:19 >> ABOUT 245 MEMBERS.
11:24:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PAINS ME ABOUT THIS
11:24:26 IS TO SEE A GENTLEMAN LIKE MR. HARDEN, TO CALL HIM A
11:24:30 STELLAR ANCHOR OF THIS AREA IS QUITE THE UNDERSTATEMENT.
11:24:33 I KNOW WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.
11:24:36 IT PAINS ME TO SEE THIS CONFLICT FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WHO
11:24:40 IS AN ENTREPRENEUR, WHO HAS TAKEN ONE HECK OF A RISK THAT
11:24:43 HAS PAID OFF FOR THE AREA.
11:24:45 THAT DOES PAIN ME.
11:24:47 THAT BEING SAID, I WANT YOU TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING THAT
11:24:50 CONCERNS ME, AND I SPOKE TO MR. HARDEN ABOUT THIS, WHICH
11:24:52 IS ANY PRECEDENT THAT THIS COULD SET FOR OTHER MEMBERS.
11:24:57 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT HERE?
11:24:59 >> IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT OUR BOARD RECOGNIZES
11:25:04 AND IS A CONCERN OF OUR BOARD.
11:25:06 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LENGTH AND WE NEVER HAD A
11:25:09 PROPERTY OWNER BE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF THE DISTRICT ONCE
11:25:12 THEY ARE IN.
11:25:13 SO IT DOES SET A PRECEDENT TO HAVE A JAGGED DISTRICT, IF
11:25:18 YOU WILL, AND OTHERS TO COME BEFORE YOU, ASKING FOR THE
11:25:22 SAME THING.
11:25:23 WE VALUE HIS PROPERTY VERY, VERY MUCH.
11:25:26 WE CONSIDER IT TO BE PART OF DOWNTOWN.
11:25:30 WE LOVE HIM BEING IN THERE, ACTUALLY.
11:25:32 WE MARKET IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
11:25:36 IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE DISTRICT FOR US.
11:25:41 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:25:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO FLESH THAT OUT A LITTLE MORE.
11:25:46 HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN PART OF THE DISTRICT?
11:25:50 >> ARMATURE WORKS OR SOHO CAPITAL?
11:25:52 ONE YEAR.
11:25:53 IT WILL BE ONE YEAR SEPTEMBER 30th.
11:25:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:25:55 SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 19 YEARS OR
11:25:59 ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:26:00 THEY WERE JUST ADDED, IF WE DECIDED TO REMOVE THEM, IT'S
11:26:03 NOT LIKE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
11:26:05 IN ADDITION, IN TERMS OF JAGGED, THEY ARE SORT OF OVER IN
11:26:10 A JAGGED CORNER OF THE DISTRICT ANYWAY.
11:26:14 >> RIGHT.
11:26:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT -- THAT'S ALL.
11:26:18 THANK YOU.
11:26:21 >> LYNDA REMUND: IF I MAY, WHAT I MEAN BY JAGGED, IT
11:26:24 SETS THE PRECEDENT FOR ANYONE ELSE TO BE ABLE TO PUT A
11:26:27 REQUEST FORWARD TO BE REMOVED FROM THE DISTRICT.
11:26:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION.
11:26:31 I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:26:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:26:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION.
11:26:34 YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY YESTERDAY.
11:26:39 MOST OF THOSE 200-PLUS MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE ARE
11:26:43 BUSINESSES, FOLIOS THAT ARE PART OF IT, ARE INDIVIDUAL
11:26:48 PARCELS.
11:26:49 LET'S SAY I OWN A SMALL BUILDING ON FRANKLIN STREET.
11:26:52 I'VE GOT 50 FEET OF FRONTAGE OR 30 FEET OF FRONTAGE OR
11:26:56 WHATEVER.
11:26:56 I THINK THAT BETTER DESCRIBES MOST OF THE FOLIOS THAT ARE
11:27:01 MEMBERS.
11:27:03 AND I WOULD ARGUE, OR AT LEAST ASK THE QUESTION, THAT
11:27:06 THIS IS AN EXTREMELY UNUSUAL, LARGE CHUNK OF LANDOWNER
11:27:11 THAT IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN 99% OF YOUR MEMBERS.
11:27:18 >>LYNDA REMUND: RIGHT, AND LET ME CLARIFY OUR MEMBERS.
11:27:24 WE ARE A MEMBER ORGANIZATION THAT HAS 245 MEMBERS, BUT WE
11:27:25 ALSO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT, WHICH MAKES UP ABOUT 25
11:27:28 INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS -- 2500, RATHER, INDIVIDUAL
11:27:32 PROPERTY OWNERS.
11:27:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT, BUT THE WAY I JUST DESCRIBED
11:27:34 THOSE FOLIOS, MOST OF THEM ARE FAIRLY SMALL, LESS THAN AN
11:27:38 ACRE, I'M SURE.
11:27:39 >>LYNDA REMUND: I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ACREAGE, BUT WE
11:27:42 HAVE LARGE -- YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE TOWERS AND THE
11:27:45 MARRIOTT WATERSIDE, THERE ARE VERY LARGE PROPERTIES
11:27:50 WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
11:27:51 AND WE LOOK AT THAT, AS MR. HARDEN'S PROJECT AS BEING
11:27:56 PART OF THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN AS WELL.
11:27:59 SO WE THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.
11:28:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:28:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:28:04 >>LYNDA REMUND: THANK YOU.
11:28:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE PARTNERSHIP -- WHAT ARE THE
11:28:12 ACTUAL NUMBERS OF THE PARTNERSHIP -- WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS
11:28:16 THAT THE PARTNERSHIP BRINGS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS?
11:28:19 >>LYNDA REMUND: THE PARTNERSHIP SIDE, THE BUDGET FOR THE
11:28:23 PRIVATE SIDE IS ABOUT 550,000.
11:28:25 THE SSD RAISES ABOUT, THIS NEXT YEAR, IT WILL RAISE 3.2
11:28:31 MILLION.
11:28:32 LAST YEAR WAS 2.8.
11:28:34 11% INCREASE THIS PAST YEAR.
11:28:42 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:28:44 ACTUALLY.
11:28:45 I'M SORRY.
11:28:46 STRIKE THAT.
11:28:47 MR. SHELBY, DO WE FIRST NEED TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
11:28:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:28:50 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY DINGFELDER.
11:28:54 [OVERLAPPING CONVERSATION]
11:28:56 MANISCALCO SECONDED.
11:28:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:28:58 ANY OPPOSED?
11:28:59 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:29:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T MAKE
11:29:06 THIS MOTION LIGHTLY.
11:29:08 I HAVE PUT SOME TIME INTO THIS AND LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS,
11:29:11 LOTS OF HOURS AND SOUL SEARCHING ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL
11:29:17 RIGHT NOW.
11:29:17 I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET DISTRACTED WITH ADAM HARDEN.
11:29:22 THIS IS NOT ABOUT ADAM HARDEN.
11:29:24 HE IS THE EXECUTIVE REPRESENTING THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THE
11:29:28 CDD, VARIOUS CORPORATIONS, HIS PARTNER IS IN THE BACK,
11:29:33 ET CETERA.
11:29:34 SO WHETHER OR NOT WE LIKE OR DON'T LIKE ADAM HARDEN IS --
11:29:39 NEEDS TO BE IRRELEVANT.
11:29:40 BUT I AM PERSUADED BY THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN PLENTY
11:29:45 OF TESTIMONY FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE SERVICES
11:29:48 ARE DUPLICATIVE AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANT THAT THEY ARE
11:29:51 NOT WANTED, THAT THEY DIDN'T -- HE'S TOLD ME PERSONALLY
11:29:55 ANYWAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO REPEAT IT, HE HAD
11:30:00 NO GREAT DESIRE TO BE PART OF THE SSD.
11:30:04 AT THE TIME IT WASN'T THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT PROSPECTIVELY,
11:30:09 17,000 GOING UP TO A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND, GOING UP TO
11:30:12 A MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:30:13 AND IF THAT PARTICULAR SERIES OF PRIVATE OR SEMI PRIVATE
11:30:20 ORGANIZATIONS DOESN'T HAVE A DESIRE TO BE IN THAT
11:30:24 ORGANIZATION, WITHIN THE SSD, WITHIN WHICH WE CONTROL,
11:30:28 YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THEM DO THAT.
11:30:31 I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE WITH
11:30:34 THAT.
11:30:36 I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY.
11:30:39 I'M NOT PERSUADED THAT THIS IS PRECEDENT SETTING.
11:30:43 WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CLAMOR OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO, QUOTE,
11:30:48 WANTS TO GET OUT.
11:30:49 AND I DON'T THINK WE WILL.
11:30:50 I THINK THIS IS VERY UNIQUE.
11:30:53 THEY'VE ONLY BEEN IN FOR A YEAR, AND THEY'D LIKE TO BE
11:30:56 OUT.
11:30:56 FINALLY, THEY ARE SEEKING AN ALTERNATIVE RELATIONSHIP.
11:31:01 HE'S ASSURED US THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS -- AND I DO KNOW HIM
11:31:06 PERSONALLY AS A MAN OF HIS WORD -- 60 DAYS, HE'D LIKE TO
11:31:10 APPROACH THE PARTNERSHIP AND APPROACH US -- WELL, I DON'T
11:31:13 KNOW IF YOU'D NEED TO APPROACH US BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A
11:31:16 PRIVATE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE PARTNERSHIP -- TO STRIKE AN
11:31:19 ALTERNATIVE ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM, TO PROVIDE HIM --
11:31:23 PROVIDE THEM WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY DO DESIRE, BUT
11:31:26 NOT AS PART OF THE SSD.
11:31:29 SO WITH ALL OF THAT AND AS LONG AS MR. TERRITO DEEMS IT
11:31:33 APPROPRIATE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO REMOVE THE HEIGHTS
11:31:39 FOLIOS -- AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OR THE LEGAL
11:31:41 DESCRIPTION, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY DOES OUT
11:31:43 THERE -- TO REMOVE THOSE FOLIOS FROM THE SSD FOR THIS
11:31:51 YEAR AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT, I WOULD MOVE THE REST OF
11:31:56 THE FOLIOS FOR APPROVAL I GUESS BY RESOLUTION.
11:32:05 WE CAN DO IT AS TWO MOTIONS.
11:32:07 >>SAL TERRITO: MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, IF YOU GET THE
11:32:10 VOTES TO DO THAT, THEN WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS THAT YOU
11:32:12 MOVE TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT EXCLUDING THOSE
11:32:16 PARCELS.
11:32:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL DO IT AS TWO MOTIONS PURSUANT TO
11:32:18 COUNSEL'S SUGGESTION.
11:32:19 MY MOTION STRICTLY ON THIS OCCASION IS JUST TO REMOVE --
11:32:25 I'LL CALL IT FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM -- THE HEIGHTS.
11:32:28 THE VARIOUS HEIGHTS FOLIOS, WHICH WERE ADDED A YEAR AGO,
11:32:31 TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE SSD BASED UPON THE TESTIMONY AND
11:32:35 ARGUMENT THAT WE'VE HEARD.
11:32:37 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:32:38 WE HAVE A MOTION -- WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT.
11:32:40 BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:32:43 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:45 I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WANTED TO SPEAK.
11:32:47 ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?
11:32:50 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:32:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMAN
11:32:56 DINGFELDER SAID.
11:32:57 I THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, UNIQUE PARCEL.
11:32:59 ARMATURE WORKS AND THE AREA AROUND IT, DON'T WANT TO SAY
11:33:03 IT'S OWN CITY BUT SUSTAINABLE IN MANY WAYS BECAUSE OF
11:33:06 DUPLICATIVE SERVICES AND WHATNOT.
11:33:08 I THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND
11:33:11 WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM.
11:33:12 I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING ELSE -- ANOTHER AGREEMENT
11:33:17 PRIVATELY COULD TAKE PLACE.
11:33:19 FROM THIS POINT ON, IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.
11:33:22 BUT THAT'S IT.
11:33:24 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN
11:33:25 MIRANDA.
11:33:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SOMETIMES DECISIONS ARE TOUGH TO
11:33:30 MAKE SOMETIMES, GENTLEMEN.
11:33:31 AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES.
11:33:33 I THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT.
11:33:38 THAT CONVERSATION WITH BOTH PARTIES.
11:33:40 SOMETIMES YOU DON'T GET ALL THE FACTS FIRST UNTIL YOU
11:33:43 MEET WITH THE OTHER PARTY AND THEN YOU PUT IT ALL
11:33:46 TOGETHER.
11:33:46 BUT FOR ME, I LOOK AT THAT AREA AS A SEPARATE AREA.
11:33:54 IT BENEFITS FROM DOWNTOWN.
11:33:57 IT TRULY DOES.
11:33:58 BUT IT IS ITS OWN ENTITY AND WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING
11:34:03 TO PRODUCE, IT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT THERE.
11:34:07 WHEN I LOOK AT THE SERVICES, SOME OF THEM ARE DUPLICATE
11:34:12 SERVICES.
11:34:12 WHEN I LOOK AT DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THIS COULD BE A
11:34:17 SUBSTANTIAL DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT OTHER PARTY BECAUSE OF
11:34:22 THE GROWTH.
11:34:24 WHEN I LOOK AT THAT AMOUNT, I'M VERY LEERY, BUT I THINK
11:34:30 THAT FOR ME, IT'S GOING TO BE A DECISION TO WHERE I HAVE
11:34:34 TO LOOK AT HOW DOES IT BENEFIT ONE?
11:34:39 WILL IT HURT ANOTHER?
11:34:41 I DON'T SEE IT REALLY HURTING THE OTHER, SO I'M GOING TO
11:34:47 PROBABLY BE WILLING TO SUPPORT REMOVING IT FROM THE
11:34:50 AGREEMENT.
11:34:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:34:51 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:34:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:34:53 I'M TAKING A CONCEPTUAL VIEW OF WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM BOTH
11:34:58 SIDES AND PRESENTATION FROM MR. HARDEN'S GROUP AND
11:35:01 PRESENTATION FROM THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
11:35:04 AND WHAT I COME UP TO A DECISION IN MY MIND IS BOTH OF
11:35:07 THESE GROUPS ARE VERY INTELLIGENT.
11:35:09 VERY GOOD, VERY HARDWORKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE
11:35:12 SOMETHING GO THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE.
11:35:14 HOWEVER, BOTH OF THESE GROUPS HAD TO KNOW AT THE TIME
11:35:19 THAT THEY SIGNED THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WHAT WAS GOING TO
11:35:22 HAPPEN THERE.
11:35:24 BOTH PARTIES KNEW -- THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE ONE
11:35:28 THAT WAS PAYING FOR THE --
11:35:30 IN MY OPINION, THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO GROW.
11:35:33 I'M SURE IT HAPPENS THAT WAY.
11:35:36 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT A CAP FROM EITHER ONE OF
11:35:39 THEM.
11:35:40 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE ME BELIEVE THAT
11:35:44 AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE THIS IS GOING TO BE WORKED OUT
11:35:47 AMICABLE AGREEMENT AT THAT POINT.
11:35:50 CERTAINLY, DIDN'T START WITH ONE BUILDING FOR DEVELOPMENT
11:35:53 AND FIGURE, WELL, THAT'S THE ONLY BUILDING THAT WILL BE.
11:35:57 ONE APARTMENT.
11:35:58 THEY ON THE OTHER SIDE SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO SERVICE
11:36:01 BUT AIN'T GOING TO BE ONE BUILDING.
11:36:02 GOING TO BE MANY.
11:36:03 BOTH PARTIES KNEW OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:36:06 THIS IS NOT NEW.
11:36:07 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD TO BUY SOMEWHERE ELSE
11:36:13 50 MILES AWAY TO MAKE THE AGREEMENT WORK.
11:36:15 IN MY MIND, I'M GOING BACK IN HISTORY AND MAYBE I
11:36:18 REMEMBER ONE THAT TRIED TO GO OUT OF THE SPECIAL
11:36:22 DISTRICT, AND THAT WAS A RESTAURANT THAT'S NO LONGER IN
11:36:24 BUSINESS.
11:36:25 AND THEY WERE TURNED DOWN BY COUNCIL, IF I'M RIGHT.
11:36:28 I'M NOT CERTAIN I'M RIGHT.
11:36:31 THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN REMEMBER IN HISTORY.
11:36:33 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO SET A PRECEDENT OR NOT,
11:36:37 BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
11:36:40 PEOPLE, WHETHER 100 OR 200 OR FIVE COMING IN, WANT TO GET
11:36:44 OUT OF THE DISTRICT, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE AT WITHIN
11:36:47 THE DOWNTOWN PROPERTY.
11:36:48 THEREFORE I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING MR. DINGFELDER'S
11:36:51 RESOLUTION.
11:36:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:36:53 ANYONE ELSE?
11:37:00 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAY WE DEAL WITH A
11:37:02 LOT OF GRAY.
11:37:03 THIS IS ABOUT AS GRAY AS YOU CAN GET IN THE SENSE THAT
11:37:07 IT'S NOT BLACK OR WHITE.
11:37:08 MR. HARDEN MAKES POINTS THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL BE
11:37:11 SYMPATHETIC, TOO, ESPECIALLY ANY OF THOSE WHO HAVE GONE
11:37:13 INTO BUSINESS AND DEAL WITH OWNER REGULATIONS, ASSESSMENT
11:37:16 FEES, ET CETERA.
11:37:17 THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
11:37:19 YOU CAN PUT ON THE ONE HAND THAT'S A COST OF DOING
11:37:22 BUSINESS BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY
11:37:25 UNFAIR ABOUT THIS.
11:37:26 I WILL SIDE IN NOT VOTING FOR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
11:37:33 POSITION.
11:37:34 I DO BELIEVE THIS DOES SET WHAT I THINK IS A VERY
11:37:37 UNFORTUNATE PRECEDENT.
11:37:38 AS I SAID BEFORE, WITH DISTRICTS.
11:37:40 I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
11:37:43 SAID, WHICH IS THIS GROUP JUST JOINED APPROXIMATELY A
11:37:47 YEAR AGO, BUT STILL IT SETS A PRECEDENT THAT COULD
11:37:49 REALLY, REALLY BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT
11:37:53 IN THIS AND OTHER AREAS.
11:37:54 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY POWERFUL THAT CANNOT
11:37:57 OVERLOOKED NO MATTER HOW SYMPATHETIC THIS PARTICULAR
11:37:59 GENTLEMAN AND GROUP'S POSITION IS.
11:38:01 AND, FRANKLY, I DON'T SEE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT IS
11:38:05 GOING TO BE ENFORCEABLE AND WILL COME FORWARD IF THIS
11:38:08 MOTION PASSES.
11:38:09 ALL THAT I SEE IS POTENTIAL DETRIMENT AND VERY, VERY
11:38:13 NEGATIVE PRECEDENT THAT IS GOING TO HURT THIS CITY, HURT
11:38:15 DEVELOPMENT AND HURT THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
11:38:17 THEREFORE I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.
11:38:18 ANYONE ELSE?
11:38:23 OKAY.
11:38:23 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:38:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:29 ANY OPPOSED?
11:38:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:38:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:38:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:38:40 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:38:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:38:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:38:44 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:38:46 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, CITRO,
11:38:50 MIRANDA, AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:38:55 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.
11:39:01 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO TO MOVE THE
11:39:03 RESOLUTION.
11:39:04 WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:39:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:39:06 ANY OPPOSED?
11:39:11 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER, GUDES
11:39:14 VOTING NO, AND MANISCALCO ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:39:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE
11:39:20 PUBLIC HEARING, A REMINDER, YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER
11:39:22 RESOLUTION, A PART B, ACTUALLY, APPROVING THE SPECIAL
11:39:25 SERVICES AGREEMENT.
11:39:26 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:39:34 >>SAL TERRITO: YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
11:39:36 ASSESSMENT.
11:39:37 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE
11:39:40 AGREEMENT.
11:39:44 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:39:46 WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:39:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:39:49 ANY OPPOSED?
11:39:49 AND NOW THE RESOLUTION.
11:39:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECOND RESOLUTION.
11:39:55 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE JUST VOTED ON THAT.
11:40:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT THE MOTION TO CLOSE, MADAM
11:40:03 CLERK?
11:40:04 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:40:04 THAT WAS THE RESOLUTION.
11:40:05 NOW WE'LL DO THE CLOSURE.
11:40:07 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:40:09 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:12 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:40:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:40:15 ANY OPPOSED?
11:40:16 WE GO TO ITEM 73.
11:40:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:40:25 -- MOTION DIED, FINE.
11:40:37 THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS ON THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION FOR THE
11:40:39 ASSESSMENT, 4-2.
11:40:41 AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD A FORMAL VOTE ON THE NEXT
11:40:45 ONE.
11:40:48 >> DO A ROLL CALL?
11:40:49 >>LUIS VIERA: OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
11:40:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
11:40:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
11:40:56 >>THE CLERK: NO AS WELL?
11:40:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:40:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:40:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:41:01 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:41:02 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER AND GUDES
11:41:04 VOTING NO, MANISCALCO ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:41:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE
11:41:10 RECORD, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED?
11:41:12 >>THE CLERK: CORRECT.
11:41:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:41:17 >>LUIS VIERA: ONWARD TO 73.
11:41:22 >>SAL TERRITO: 73 IS FOR THE STREETCAR.
11:41:25 AGAIN, THERE IS SOMEONE HERE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU.
11:41:27 THERE IS A TYPO ON THE ADDENDUM.
11:41:32 SOME OF THE NUMBERS GOT CONFUSED, BUT I THINK WE'RE OKAY
11:41:35 MOVING FORWARD ON THESE ITEMS.
11:41:37 YOU HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF THE MEMOS THAT YOU NEED TO
11:41:40 RECEIVE.
11:41:40 MAYBE NOT IN THE DESIGNATION THAT THEY WERE GIVEN BUT
11:41:43 THEY ARE HERE PROPERLY.
11:41:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE FOR 73?
11:42:04 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND WHOEVER IS THE ACTING CHAIRMAN AND
11:42:07 MEMBERS, MY NAME IS MICHAEL ENGLISH.
11:42:09 I LIVE AT 10302 FORE DRIVE IN TAMPA IN FOREST HILLS ON
11:42:16 THE BABE ZAHARIAS GOLF COURSE.
11:42:19 I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE TAMPA HISTORIC STREETCAR
11:42:23 BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
11:42:23 WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE STREETCAR
11:42:28 SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN UNDERWAY FOR ALMOST 20
11:42:33 YEARS.
11:42:33 AND IT REMAINS A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR
11:42:36 FINANCING.
11:42:37 I HAD MS. RAY WITH ME TODAY, A MEMBER OF HART'S
11:42:40 MANAGEMENT TEAM, IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
11:42:43 AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:42:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:42:51 GENTLEMAN?
11:42:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ENGLISH, THANK YOU FOR DECADES OF
11:42:56 YOUR SERVICE IN SUPPORT OF THE STREETCAR AND OTHER ISSUES
11:42:58 IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:42:58 TALK TO US ABOUT RIDERSHIP.
11:43:04 I KNOW THE D.O.T. GAVE US THIS GRANT.
11:43:07 HOW LONG IS THE GRANT GOING TO LAST AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT
11:43:09 ON RIDERSHIP?
11:43:11 >> IT'S BEEN HUGE.
11:43:12 THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT 7 AND DAVID
11:43:14 GWYNN, SECRETARY, AGREED TO GIVE US BASICALLY $3 MILLION,
11:43:21 JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
11:43:23 AND THEY ASKED THAT THAT BE APPLIED TO REDUCING FARES TO
11:43:29 ZERO, WHICH, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN VERY POPULAR.
11:43:32 WE HAVE ALSO BEGUN MORNING SERVICE.
11:43:35 WE BEGIN AT 7 IN THE MORNING.
11:43:36 WE RUN UNTIL 11 OR 12 DURING THE WEEK AND THEN MUCH LATER
11:43:41 HOURS ON WEEKENDS.
11:43:42 WE HAVE REDUCED -- MANY OF YOU REMEMBER TRYING TO WAIT
11:43:46 FOR THE STREETCAR AND IT'S 20 MINUTES AND PEOPLE DON'T
11:43:48 LIKE IT.
11:43:50 WE'RE DOWN TO 15-MINUTE HEADWAYS THROUGHOUT OUR SERVICE.
11:43:52 SO OUR RIDERSHIP HAS MORE THAN TRIPLED.
11:43:55 LAST YEAR WE CARRIED ABOUT 300,000 PEOPLE.
11:43:59 MOST OF THEM ARE VISITORS TO YBOR CITY.
11:44:01 THIS YEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT A MILLION, BUT WE'RE
11:44:04 GOING TO COME REALLY CLOSE, WELL OVER 800,000 PEOPLE,
11:44:10 POSSIBLY 900,000.
11:44:11 OUR YEAR IS OVER -- WE HAVE TWO MORE MONTHS IN THE YEAR.
11:44:13 THE STREETCAR, HART IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF OPERATING IT.
11:44:18 THEY ARE MUCH BUSIER THAN THEY USED TO BE.
11:44:21 AND THIS CAN GO ON FOR THREE YEARS, MR. DINGFELDER, AT
11:44:24 WHICH TIME HART AND THE CITY AND THE MAYOR WILL REALLY
11:44:28 NEED TO THINK THROUGH HOW TO REPLACE THAT MILLION DOLLARS
11:44:31 BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PROBABLY PRETTY USED TO IT
11:44:35 BY THEN.
11:44:36 WE'RE HOPING THAT THE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BETWEEN HART
11:44:40 AND THE CITY TO DO WITH EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR WILL
11:44:43 INCLUDE SOME CONSIDERATION OF OPERATING FUNDING IN THE
11:44:45 FUTURE.
11:44:46 FOR NOW, MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE
11:44:50 SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS REALLY YOUR SPECIAL
11:44:52 ASSESSMENT, IS INVALUABLE.
11:44:56 IT'S ALMOST HALF OF OUR BUDGET.
11:45:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. ENGLISH.
11:45:03 ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION IN REGARD TO THE FUTURE
11:45:05 EXPANSION IT APPEARS THAT WE, YOU, EVERYBODY IS
11:45:12 RESEARCHING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THIS UP TO -- UP
11:45:17 ABOVE THE INTERSTATE INTO THE SOUTHERN PART OF TAMPA
11:45:20 HEIGHTS, WHICH I THINK IS VERY EXCITING, TO COME UP
11:45:24 THROUGH DOWNTOWN, UP FLORIDA, DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THAT
11:45:28 SORT OF THING.
11:45:29 A LONG TIME AGO, I REMEMBER -- I THINK I SERVED ON THIS
11:45:33 BOARD, THAT BOARD, THE STREETCAR BOARD -- IF I REMEMBER A
11:45:37 DISCUSSION ABOUT LOOPING IT OVER MAYBE DOWN PALM OR 7th
11:45:41 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GET BACK TO YBOR IN A QUICKER
11:45:46 FASHION.
11:45:47 >> MICHAEL ENGLISH: EXACTLY.
11:45:50 THAT WAS ALWAYS AN OPTION WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN THE THING
11:45:53 WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY.
11:45:55 WHEN THE CITY AND COUNTY WERE TALKING TO THE TAMPA BAY
11:45:57 RAYS ABOUT POSSIBLY LOCATING TO YBOR CITY, IT REALLY DID
11:46:00 MAKE SENSE TO CONSIDER A LOOP THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO
11:46:02 START AT EITHER END OF THE SYSTEM AND GO IN ANY
11:46:06 DIRECTION, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT A TRANSIT SYSTEM WOULD
11:46:08 IDEALLY DO.
11:46:09 THAT MAY STILL BE POSSIBLE.
11:46:10 I PERSONALLY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF THAT LOOP, BUT
11:46:14 I LOVE THE IDEA THAT IT'S GOING UP INTO THE HEIGHTS AND
11:46:17 REALLY WOULD ALLOW A RIDER TO GET ON OR OFF THE STREETCAR
11:46:22 AT EITHER END AND GO ENTIRELY THROUGH THE URBAN CENTER ON
11:46:26 ONE VEHICLE, ONE TRIP.
11:46:28 IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, NOT JUST THE CAPITAL COSTS, BUT
11:46:34 THE OPERATING COSTS.
11:46:35 SO I DON'T THINK A LOOP IS OUT OF CONSIDERATION.
11:46:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE THE NEXT
11:46:40 PHASE?
11:46:41 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: IT COULD BE.
11:46:43 PEOPLE WANT THE STREETCAR TO GO NORTH INTO SEMINOLE
11:46:45 HEIGHTS, OUT TO USF.
11:46:46 PEOPLE WANT IT TO GO TO THE AIRPORT.
11:46:49 ALL THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS.
11:46:51 IT'S JUST ABOUT THE MONEY.
11:46:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
11:47:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CARLSON.
11:47:02 >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
11:47:05 IF I RECALL, THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE
11:47:08 TECHNOLOGY, THE TYPE OF CARS, SO THAT IT WILL GO FASTER.
11:47:12 I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT
11:47:15 FOR IT TO GO FASTER.
11:47:16 I HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM YBOR THAT THEY ARE WORRIED
11:47:20 ABOUT LOSING THE HISTORIC LOOK OF THE CARS.
11:47:22 CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT?
11:47:26 IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIND A HYBRID THAT CAN GO FASTER THAT
11:47:29 HAS THE HISTORIC LOOK?
11:47:31 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: OH, WOW.
11:47:32 I DON'T THINK A DECISION HAS BEEN MADE BY THE CITY WHO
11:47:34 OWNS THE SYSTEM.
11:47:35 BY THE WAY, YOU OWN THE SYSTEM, AND YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE
11:47:40 FOR IT. LOTS OF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE NEWER CARS.
11:47:49 IF YOU'VE BEEN IN PORTLAND OR SEATTLE AND RIDDEN THOSE,
11:47:53 THEY ARE BIGGER.
11:47:54 THEY ARE ARTICULATED, SO THEY HOLD A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
11:47:58 THERE IS THOUGHT, IF IT IS AFFORDABLE, TO REPLACE MOST
11:48:00 BUT NOT ALL OF THE CARS WE HAVE NOW WITH NEWER CARS, AND
11:48:03 TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL CAR, THAT THE STREETCAR SOCIETY
11:48:08 RESTORED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND KEEP PERHAPS THE OPEN AIR
11:48:12 BREEZER.
11:48:13 BUT I DON'T THINK THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE, FRANKLY.
11:48:16 NEW CARS MAKE SENSE.
11:48:19 WE PICK THE ORIGINAL, WE PICK THE CARS YOU SEE TODAY
11:48:22 BECAUSE THEY HOOK JUST LIKE WHAT USED TO RUN IN THE CITY
11:48:25 WHEN WE HAD A 54-MILE STREETCAR SYSTEM.
11:48:28 I HOPE YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE YOUR OPINION
11:48:33 KNOWN.
11:48:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ENGLISH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
11:48:36 BEING HERE TODAY.
11:48:37 YOU AND I HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE
11:48:40 STREETCAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE YCDC.
11:48:42 WHAT SOME PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE IS THAT, SIR, THERE ARE
11:48:45 CERTAIN CRAs WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT ARE
11:48:48 CONTRIBUTING TO THE STREETCAR.
11:48:49 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: YES.
11:48:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I KNOW YCDC ONE AND TWO DONATED
11:48:55 $150,000 ANNUALLY.
11:48:57 AND SOME YEARS THEY ADDED ADDITIONAL 50,000.
11:49:00 WHAT OTHER CRAs WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ALSO
11:49:04 CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE STREETCAR?
11:49:07 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: THANK YOU, MR. CITRO.
11:49:08 WE RECEIVE $150,000 FROM EACH OF THE THREE CRAs THROUGH
11:49:15 WHICH THE STREETCAR RUNS.
11:49:16 SO THE DOWNTOWN CRA, COMBINATION OF CRAs.
11:49:19 THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA, AND THE YBOR CRA AREAS.
11:49:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WOULD SAY IT'S GREAT TAX DOLLARS
11:49:31 COMING FROM THE CRAs HELPING TO SUPPORT THIS.
11:49:34 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: IT'S BEEN INVALUABLE.
11:49:35 THERE WAS A POINT WHEN OUR FUNDING WAS REALLY DIFFICULT
11:49:37 TO ACHIEVE.
11:49:38 IT STILL IS, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING A LOT MORE SERVICE.
11:49:42 SO THE MONEY IS INVALUABLE AND WE'VE ALWAYS REALLY
11:49:44 APPRECIATED IT.
11:49:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ENGLISH.
11:49:46 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: THANK YOU.
11:49:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:49:49 I LOVE THE STREETCAR.
11:49:50 I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THE STREETCAR.
11:49:52 I'M GLAD TO SEE IT'S FARE-FREE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS
11:49:55 BECAUSE RIDERSHIP HAS SKYROCKETED.
11:49:57 YOU SEE THE NUMBERS.
11:49:58 IF I USE IT ON A FRIDAY EVENING TO GO FROM HERE TO YBOR
11:50:01 CITY, IT'S BUSY.
11:50:02 IT'S PACKED WITH PEOPLE EITHER GOING TO DINNER, GOING TO
11:50:05 ANOTHER EVENT IN YBOR, OR VICE VERSA, COMING FROM THERE
11:50:08 HERE TO GO DOWN TO CURTIS HIXON OR SOME OTHER ISSUE.
11:50:13 NOW, PSYCHOLOGICALLY, BEING THAT THERE WILL BE NO FARES
11:50:16 FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS, PEOPLE ARE, OF COURSE, USING IT
11:50:20 MORE, THE NUMBERS ARE UP.
11:50:21 WHEN THE FARES DO COME BACK, WHATEVER HAPPENS, THEY ARE
11:50:25 ALREADY USED TO RIDING THE STREETCAR.
11:50:26 THEY SEE THE BENEFITS OF THE STREETCAR NOW THAT IT'S
11:50:32 ATTRACTED NEW AUDIENCE.
11:50:33 EXPANDING IT FURTHER INTO HEIGHTS IS GREAT.
11:50:36 CREATING A CIRCLE, A LOOP MAKES SENSE.
11:50:38 WHAT IF YOU ARE IN ARMATURE WORKS, TAMPA HEIGHTS AND YOU
11:50:41 WANT TO GO TO THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT.
11:50:43 INSTEAD OF MAKING THE WHOLE LOOP AROUND WHICH IS GREAT
11:50:45 AND SCENIC AND RELAXING AND AIR CONDITIONED, PEOPLE WANT
11:50:48 THE CONVENIENCE OF IT.
11:50:50 UP UNTIL 1946, WE HAD 50-PLUS MILES OF STREETCAR TRACK
11:50:54 ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:50:55 WE HAVE MASS TRANSIT.
11:50:56 WE FIGHT ABOUT IT.
11:50:57 WE TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
11:50:59 LIGHT RAIL AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
11:51:01 WE HAD THOSE THINGS UP UNTIL JUST AFTER WORLD WAR II AND
11:51:04 ALONG WITH MANY OTHER CITIES, WE PULLED THAT SYSTEM UP
11:51:08 AND MADE WAY FOR AUTOMOBILES AND THE TIRE COMPANIES, THE
11:51:11 GREAT STREETCAR DISAPPEARANCE OF THE 1940s.
11:51:14 NOW WE WISH WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
11:51:17 AT LEAST KEPT THE TRACKS SO WE COULD SAY, OKAY, IF ONE
11:51:20 DAY WE WANT TO GO BACK TO IT BUT IT WAS COMPLETELY
11:51:23 CANNIBALIZED TO MAKE WAY FOR DRIVING PERSONAL VEHICLES
11:51:28 AND, OF COURSE, THE INTERSTATE TO GET PEOPLE AROUND.
11:51:32 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR SO MANY YEARS.
11:51:35 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:51:36 AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.
11:51:38 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:51:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:44 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:51:45 THE STREETCAR WAS PUT ON AHEAD OF ITS TIME BECAUSE THREE
11:51:50 THINGS.
11:51:51 RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS, AND RESIDENTS.
11:51:54 VERY FEW RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN.
11:51:56 I THINK BUCKHORN SHOULD SAY ONCE IN A WHILE MORE IN JAIL
11:52:00 THAN PEOPLE LIVED DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE JAIL WAS DOWNTOWN.
11:52:05 YBOR CITY DIDN'T HAVE THE RESIDENCES IT HAS NOW.
11:52:07 AND TAMPA HEIGHTS WAS CERTAINLY RESIDENTIAL BUT NOT AS
11:52:11 POPULAR AS IT IS NOW AND GROWING EVERY DAY.
11:52:13 SO THOSE ARE THE THREE FACTORS THAT I THINK WOULD MAKE
11:52:16 YOU, THE STREETCAR CERTAINLY MUCH MORE RELIABLE TO
11:52:22 CONTINUE ON THIS JOURNEY TO MAKE IT PART OF THE
11:52:24 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
11:52:25 I APPLAUD YOU GUYS.
11:52:27 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:52:30 I KNOW HE TALKED ABOUT MAKING A LOOP, TALKED ABOUT GOING
11:52:34 NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE.
11:52:34 THERE ARE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA THAT WOULD REALLY LIKE IT
11:52:37 IF YOU CROSSED THE RIVER.
11:52:38 PLEASE CONSIDER THAT IN THE FUTURE.
11:52:40 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: I UNDERSTAND.
11:52:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HISTORICALLY, WE DID.
11:52:43 IT WENT THROUGH COLUMBUS DRIVE BETWEEN HOWARD AND
11:52:47 ARMENIA.
11:52:48 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: IT WENT EVERYWHERE.
11:52:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- THE WESTERNMOST POINT.
11:52:53 ONE DAY.
11:52:53 OF COURSE, IT COSTS A FORTUNE.
11:52:55 WE LAID IT OUT IN THE LATE 1800s AND TO REBUILD A
11:52:59 MODERN SYSTEM OF STREETCAR TRAFFIC, WOULD BE
11:53:02 ASTRONOMICAL.
11:53:03 LITTLE BY LITTLE, WE MOVE UP TO THE HEIGHTS SHOULD WE DO
11:53:06 THAT AND GO FROM THERE.
11:53:07 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: STEP BY STEP.
11:53:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:53:11 >>MICHAEL ENGLISH: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALL OF YOU.
11:53:15 >> WE HAVE TO MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:53:17 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
11:53:20 ITEM 73?
11:53:22 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:53:24 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:53:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:27 ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:27 OKAY.
11:53:29 PLEASURE OF COUNCIL WITH RESOLUTION ON 73.
11:53:31 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:53:32 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:53:34 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:53:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:37 ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:37 THANK YOU.
11:53:38 >> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:53:40 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:53:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:53:44 ANY IN FAVOR?
11:53:46 ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:49 >>SAL TERRITO: SAL TERRITO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:53:51 HERE FOR THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE ITEM.
11:53:53 JUST AS A REMINDER THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE
11:53:56 SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:53:58 THERE IS A SECOND ITEM ON THERE FOR THE CONTRACT WITH
11:54:01 THEM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IN THE PUBLIC
11:54:02 HEARING, BUT IF YOU DO, IT IS NOT A -- WHATEVER WAY YOU
11:54:08 WANT TO DO IT IS FINE.
11:54:10 THERE IS SOMEBODY HERE FROM THE ALLIANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU.
11:54:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:54:14 I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF.
11:54:15 ANN KULIG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
11:54:21 I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPECIAL SERVICES
11:54:23 DISTRICT OF WESTSHORE AND CONSEQUENT AGREEMENT WITH THE
11:54:26 ALLIANCE.
11:54:26 JUST A FEW NOTES, REMINDER FOR YOU, THIS IS THE 18th
11:54:29 YEAR OF THE SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT.
11:54:31 IT APPLIES FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ONLY.
11:54:34 WE DO NOT APPLY IT TO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
11:54:37 IT'S REALLY THOSE THAT BENEFIT REALLY IN THE COMMERCIAL
11:54:40 MARKET TO DRIVE BUSINESS TO WESTSHORE.
11:54:41 THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE TO THE MILLAGE RATE.
11:54:44 IT'S 15 CENTS PER THOUSAND DOLLARS.
11:54:46 AND WE USE THE FUNDS FOR THREE MAIN THINGS:
11:54:50 TRANSPORTATION.
11:54:51 A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND SMALL PROJECTS THAT
11:54:53 ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THINGS THE CITY WOULD DO IN
11:54:57 THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
11:54:58 SECURITY, PROJECTS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TPD AND THEN
11:55:01 MARKETING FOR THE DISTRICT.
11:55:02 I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF AT THAT.
11:55:05 WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND WE WOULD
11:55:07 APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
11:55:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:55:09 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:55:10 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:55:11 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 74?
11:55:17 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:55:18 >>LUIS VIERA: FIRST, RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:55:21 FIRST, A RESOLUTION.
11:55:22 OKAY.
11:55:23 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:24 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:55:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:28 ANY OPPOSED?
11:55:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE CAN STILL MOVE THE RESOLUTION WHEN
11:55:34 IT'S OPEN.
11:55:35 MOVE THE SECOND RESOLUTION.
11:55:36 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:55:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:40 ANY OPPOSED?
11:55:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:55:43 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:46 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:55:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:48 ANY OPPOSED?
11:55:49 THANK YOU.
11:55:49 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 75.
11:55:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE 30 MORE MINUTES.
11:55:59 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:56:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:56:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:56:05 ANY OPPOSED?
11:56:06 MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:56:07 >> SO MOVED.
11:56:08 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
11:56:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:56:16 -- YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY HALF HOUR -- WOULD WE BE OFF
11:56:30 TAKING A LUNCH BREAK AND COMING BACK?
11:56:32 BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH UNTIL
11:56:35 2:00 OR 3:00.
11:56:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WELL TAKEN.
11:56:37 HOW ABOUT WE RETURN AT -- IS 12:40 OKAY WITH COUNCIL AND
11:56:42 STAFF?
11:56:45 >> HOW ABOUT 1:00?
11:56:46 >>LUIS VIERA: NOW, I HAVE AN IMPORTANT INVESTITURE I NEED
11:56:50 TO BE AT, AT GEORGE EDGECOMB AT ABOUT 4:00.
11:56:54 I NEED TO BE THERE BY 3:50.
11:56:59 HEY, JUDGE.
11:57:00 >> I HAVE A 1:30 HEARING I HAVE TO BE AT.
11:57:02 ANY WAY TO CALL UP 77?
11:57:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR HONOR, DO YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC
11:57:13 COMMENTS ON IT?
11:57:14 >> NO, THIS IS MY PERSONAL PROPERTY.
11:57:17 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL DO THAT.
11:57:19 PLEASURE OF COUNCIL OKAY TO MOVE WITH 77?
11:57:23 >> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE 75.
11:57:25 I JUST NEED TO REQUEST THE CONTINUANCE.
11:57:27 >> WE'LL MOVE ON THAT REALLY FAST.
11:57:27 FOR 75, ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL FOR CONTINUANCE?
11:57:27 >> WHAT DATE?
11:57:33 >> SEPTEMBER 19.
11:57:35 >> MOVE TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 19.
11:57:40 >> 10:30 IN THE MORNING.
11:57:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON
11:57:43 THE CONTINUANCE OF 75 ALONE?
11:57:47 >>STEVE MICHELINI: SOMEBODY WANT TO SWEAR US IN?
11:57:50 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:57:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:57:52 ANY OPPOSED?
11:57:54 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:58:01 >>LUIS VIERA: OUT OF DEFERENCE TO YOUR HONOR, WE WILL GO
11:58:03 WITH 77.
11:58:05 IS EVERYBODY HERE OKAY TO CONTINUE WITH 77?
11:58:09 77 MOVES FORWARD.
11:58:13 >> THANK YOU.
11:58:14 I APPRECIATE --
11:58:23 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:58:24 COUNCIL, KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:58:27 THIS IS AN APPEAL OF A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DECISION.
11:58:30 I HAVE PASSED OUT TO YOU THE PROCEDURES FOR THAT HEARING,
11:58:33 AND THERE ARE SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU AS WELL.
11:58:35 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:58:38 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, MR. SHELBY, JUDGE
11:58:42 POLO IS A JUDGE HERE IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.
11:58:45 I AM PART OF A LAW FIRM WITH ABOUT A HUNDRED ATTORNEYS,
11:58:49 SOME OF WHOM MAY APPEAR BEFORE HER.
11:58:51 I'M INQUIRING ON THE ISSUE OF CONFLICT.
11:58:53 IT IS INEVITABLE THAT WE HAVE A CASE BEFORE JUDGE POLO.
11:58:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK YOU THIS, GIVEN WHAT YOU KNOW
11:59:04 ARE YOU ABLE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL --
11:59:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
11:59:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION FROM THE PARTIES?
11:59:10 ANY OBJECTION FROM THE PARTIES?
11:59:15 >>LUIS VIERA: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAINS THE RECORD?
11:59:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. MORA DO YOU HAVE A POSITION OR
11:59:19 OPINION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON THE MATTER?
11:59:22 THIS IS A --
11:59:25 >> I WILL SAY THAT WHEN I STARTED IN 2017 I WAS FIRST ON
11:59:28 THE FAMILY LAW BENCH FOR TWO YEARS AND NOW I'M ON THE
11:59:31 CRIMINAL BENCH.
11:59:32 I DON'T THINK I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY --
11:59:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR HONOR, YOU HAVE NO OBJECTION?
11:59:41 >> NO.
11:59:41 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:59:44 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FINE.
11:59:45 I WAS JUST MAKING SURE.
11:59:56 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:59:59 THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A DENIED SPECIAL USE
12:00:03 PERMIT.
12:00:04 IT WAS SU 1-19-08 FOR A PROPERTY AT 408 WEST LOUISIANA
12:00:15 AVENUE.
12:00:16 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:00:18 THE SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
12:00:21 I'LL GO INTO THE REQUEST.
12:00:25 THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT
12:00:29 WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE WITHIN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING
12:00:32 DISTRICT.
12:00:32 WITHIN THE DISTRICT, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS WHEN YOU
12:00:37 HAVE A GARAGE, IT HAS TO BE SET BACK SEVEN FEET FROM THE
12:00:40 SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
12:00:41 THEIR REQUEST IS PLACING IT AT 3 FEET.
12:00:44 IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES, WHEN YOU HAVE AN
12:00:47 ADMINISTRATIVE REQUEST, WE CAN'T AT STAFF LEVEL GRANT ANY
12:00:51 KIND OF WAIVER.
12:00:52 WHEN AN APPLICANT ASKS FOR A WAIVER TO THE CODE WE HAVE
12:00:57 TO INITIALLY DENY THE REQUEST.
12:00:58 THE APPLICANT THEN HAS A RIGHT TO COME BEFORE CITY
12:01:00 COUNCIL AND ASK FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW AND ASK FOR THE
12:01:04 WAIVER TO BE GRANTED.
12:01:05 THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL WAS THIS HAS TO BE 7 FEET.
12:01:09 THE REQUEST IS ONLY 3 FEET.
12:01:11 AS A RESULT, THE REQUEST IS DENIED AT OUR LEVEL.
12:01:16 JUST REAL QUICK, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:01:27 THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.
12:01:30 THIS IS THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, 406 WEST LOUISIANA.
12:01:37 THIS IS THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
12:01:43 THE STRUCTURE -- I DO HAVE A VIEW OF THE ALLEY.
12:01:49 THIS IS THE REAR VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:01:53 DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
12:01:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, ERIC.
12:01:58 I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK OVER THE YEARS.
12:02:02 CAN YOU GO BACK WITH THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN?
12:02:06 >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
12:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THAT WAS A GARAGE, ONE-STORY
12:02:14 GARAGE, NOT A DWELLING UNIT, WOULD IT BE ALLOWED AT THREE
12:02:20 FEET?
12:02:21 >>ERIC COTTON: IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THE ANSWER WOULD BE
12:02:23 NO.
12:02:23 SECTION 27-211.21 IN THE TABLE, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES,
12:02:33 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT A GARAGE, THAT ARE JUST
12:02:36 A SHED, AN OUTBUILDING, ONE-STORY, TWO-STORY, JUST A
12:02:41 BUILDING WITHOUT A GARAGE, REQUIRED SETBACK IS THREE
12:02:44 FEET.
12:02:44 THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, IF IT'S A GARAGE OR A CARPORT,
12:02:48 THEN IT HAS TO BE SEVEN FEET.
12:02:50 THIS WAS NOT A GARAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR IF THE WHOLE
12:02:54 THING WAS A STRUCTURE WITHOUT HAVING A GARAGE, ABILITY TO
12:02:57 PARK, THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
12:03:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING
12:03:02 THAT'S NOT A GARAGE AND NOT A DWELLING UNIT?
12:03:05 >>ERIC COTTON: IN THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION, IF THEY
12:03:07 WOULD HAVE PUT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THE TOP OR
12:03:13 BOTTOM AS A WORKSHOP FOR WOODWORKING OR PAINTING OR
12:03:17 WHATEVER PEOPLE WOULD DO ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOUSE.
12:03:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE SAME MASS, SAME SIZE --
12:03:22 >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
12:03:22 WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A CODE AMENDMENT.
12:03:25 IT HAS NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR PROCESSING OF AN
12:03:28 AMENDMENT TO THAT SECTION.
12:03:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AMENDMENT GOING WHAT DIRECTION?
12:03:31 >>ERIC COTTON: BRINGING IT BACK DOWN TO THREE FEET.
12:03:34 THROUGHOUT THE CITY, TYPICAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SETBACK
12:03:38 3 FEET.
12:03:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'VE GIVEN A LITTLE INKLING OF HOW
12:03:43 STAFF MIGHT FEEL ABOUT IT IF NOT CONSTRAINED.
12:03:46 >>ERIC COTTON: I HAVE NO OPINION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE
12:03:49 FACT THE WAY THE CODE IS.
12:03:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:03:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHAT YOU SAID,
12:03:56 MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT BETWEEN THE WORDS, YOU DID
12:04:01 DENY IS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS AGAINST THE FACT --
12:04:05 >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
12:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- THAT IT WAS NOT LAWFUL.
12:04:07 HOWEVER, THIS IS LAWFUL IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
12:04:10 >>ERIC COTTON: TO THE POINT OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS SOME
12:04:14 CERTAIN ISSUES, INCLUDING THE HEIGHT AND THE MASS IS
12:04:17 GREATER THAN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
12:04:20 IF THIS WAS IN AN RS-75 ZONING DISTRICT, THE HEIGHT
12:04:24 LIMITATION WOULD BE 15 FEET.
12:04:26 THEY WOULD HAVE COME BEFORE THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD TO
12:04:27 GET THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.
12:04:29 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ALLOWS TO GO TO TWO STORIES AND ALLOWS
12:04:32 UP TO 950 SQUARE FEET.
12:04:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DURING THE HEARING, WERE THERE ANY
12:04:36 OBJECTIONS?
12:04:37 >>ERIC COTTON: FROM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION?
12:04:38 I DON'T BELIEVE WE RECEIVED ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT.
12:04:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:04:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. COTTON, THE STRUCTURE DIRECTLY TO THE
12:04:44 SOUTH ON OSBORNE AND THE STRUCTURE DIRECTLY TO THE WEST,
12:04:48 ARE THOSE -- EITHER ONE OF THOSE GARAGES OR ARE THOSE
12:04:51 JUST ACCESSORY STRUCTURES?
12:04:52 >>ERIC COTTON: I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE USE IS.
12:04:55 THIS IS A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE ACROSS THE ALLEY.
12:04:58 THIS IS ONE STORY.
12:04:59 THE APPLICANT -- WELL, THE JUDGE WILL BETTER ANSWER THAT
12:05:03 QUESTION FOR YOU.
12:05:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY INTERFERENCE WITH THE TREE --
12:05:08 >>ERIC COTTON: PROBABLY WHY IT WAS PUSHED OVER TO THE
12:05:10 POINT IT WAS.
12:05:11 -- 24 FEET.
12:05:14 YOU HAVE TO MEET SOME OF THAT STUFF.
12:05:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:05:19 ANYTHING ELSE?
12:05:20 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:05:28 >> I'M ANGIE BRITTAIN.
12:05:32 I'M THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR REPRESENTING JUDGE POLO.
12:05:35 AS ERIC MENTIONED, THE REASON FOR THE DESIGN --
12:05:39 >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING?
12:05:43 >> THE REASON FOR THE DESIGN AND THE REASON FOR THE
12:05:45 PLACEMENT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED THE BACK-UP SPACE FOR
12:05:52 THE 24 FEET FROM THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER'S LOT LINE, AND
12:05:57 THE TREE POSES A PROBLEM, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO
12:05:59 ENCROACH ON THAT EXISTING SETBACK.
12:06:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:06:03 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:06:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:08 ANYTHING FURTHER IN YOUR OPEN?
12:06:13 >> MELISSA POLO.
12:06:14 THEY DID GIVE ME AN APPROVAL LETTER BEFORE THEY GAVE ME A
12:06:18 DENIAL LETTER.
12:06:18 IN ADDITION, THIS IS ON AN ALLEY THAT IS NONWORKING, SO
12:06:24 MY OPTIONS WERE TO GO THROUGH THIS ROUTE OR TRY TO VACATE
12:06:27 THE ALLEYWAY, WHICH I DIDN'T OPT FOR THE SECOND PART.
12:06:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:06:32 IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD WISH TO
12:06:38 COMMENT ON ITEM 77?
12:06:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE TO CLOSE ITEM 77.
12:06:42 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:06:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:06:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:06:47 ANY OPPOSED?
12:06:48 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:06:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE ON ITEM NUMBER
12:06:56 77, FILE NUMBER 2019-8-27, I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING
12:07:02 ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION
12:07:05 SU1-19-08 BECAUSE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE
12:07:11 PETITION, IF GRANTED, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE
12:07:14 GENERAL STANDARDS OF SECTIONS 27-129 AND 27-132 AND ALSO
12:07:20 YOU CAN SEE SECTIONS 27-61B, 27-127B-2.
12:07:27 THE FACTS THAT THERE WERE OTHER THINGS THAT -- THE ALLEY
12:07:33 CERTAINLY CAN BE VACATED AND THE TREE --
12:07:37 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:07:39 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:07:41 ANY IN FAVOR?
12:07:42 [ AYES ]
12:07:42 ANY OPPOSED?
12:07:43 OKAY.
12:07:45 GENTLEMEN, WE WILL RECESS UNTIL 1:00.
12:07:50 [RECESS]
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01:04:09 [ OFF MICROPHONE ]
01:04:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
01:04:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:04:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:04:32 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:04:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:04:32 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:04:35 IT APPEARS THAT ON ITEM 76 IT APPEARS THE STAFF IS HERE
01:04:39 FOR ITEM 81 HAS TO LEAVE SHORTLY SO UNLESS ANY COUNCIL
01:04:43 MEMBERS HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO PROCEED WITH 81 JUST FOR
01:04:46 THE COURTESY OF STAFF.
01:04:50 SO HERE IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 81?
01:04:58 COME UP.
01:05:03 KRISTIN.
01:05:05 AND MS. MORA, DO YOU GO FIRST?
01:05:08 DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE?
01:05:09 >>KRISTIN MORA: (OFF MICROPHONE) LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:05:16 I HAVE SUBMITTED A REPORT OUTLINING THE LEGAL
01:05:18 REQUIREMENTS OF THE FINDING OF ANY HUMAN REMAINS OR
01:05:22 UNMARKED GRAVES IS SOLELY WITHIN THE PROVINCE OF THE
01:05:27 STATE.
01:05:28 THERE IS A PROCEDURE --
01:05:38 (MICROPHONE TURNED ON)
01:05:40 IT IS A FELONY TO NOT COMPLY WITH THOSE PROCEDURES.
01:05:43 IT IS A MISDEMEANOR TO KNOW ABOUT SOMEONE NOT COMPLYING
01:05:46 WITH THOSE PROCEDURES AND FAIL TO REPORT THAT TO LAW
01:05:48 ENFORCEMENT.
01:05:49 SO THE BEST THING THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN PROBABLY DO TO
01:05:53 MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THESE TYPES OF
01:05:57 SITUATIONS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORD IS OUT THERE
01:05:59 ABOUT WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES AND HOW THE COMPLIANCE IS
01:06:02 COMPLETED WITH IT.
01:06:04 IT'S AS SIMPLE AS NOTIFYING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER AND THE
01:06:08 STATUTE FOLLOWS FROM THERE.
01:06:10 SO I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT.
01:06:14 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MORA?
01:06:17 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
01:06:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY BIG OVERALL CONCERN IS I
01:06:25 UNDERSTAND IT'S A STATE ISSUE PER SE, BUT MY CONCERN IS
01:06:31 WHEN NOTIFIED, HOW DOES THE CITY MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE IN
01:06:35 COMPLIANCE IN NOTIFYING THE STATE OR IF WE ARE GIVING
01:06:42 BUILDING PERMITS, OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD
01:06:45 HAVE, AND YOU HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT AND THESE ARE
01:06:48 HAPPENING AND THIS IS UNCOVERED SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO
01:06:52 DO, HOW TO DO IT.
01:06:54 SO THAT'S MY BIG THING.
01:06:55 WHAT POLICIES DO WE HAVE IN PLACE, IF WE ARE GIVING
01:06:58 PEOPLE PERMITS TO DO WHATEVER, THAT WAY, WE CAN SAY
01:07:03 THERE'S A PROCESS.
01:07:04 THAT'S MY CONCERN.
01:07:07 WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT IS IN PLACE?
01:07:08 I STILL DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROCESS.
01:07:10 WE JUST SAY IT'S A STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUE CITY OF TAMPA
01:07:14 IS GIVING PERMITS, BUT THEN DO WORK.
01:07:18 SO WHAT IS THAT, I GUESS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT.
01:07:21 >>KRISTIN MORA: I DISCUSSED THIS AT SOME LENGTH WITH
01:07:25 STAFF TO ASCERTAIN HOW ORPHAN THIS HAS COME UP AND IT
01:07:28 JUST HASN'T.
01:07:29 THE SITUATIONS WHERE THIS HAS COME UP HAS BEEN HERE IN
01:07:31 DOWNTOWN WHERE WE CAN SORT OF ANTICIPATE THIS TYPE OF
01:07:34 THING, AND I WAS ALSO INFORMED THAT WHEN THESE THINGS DO
01:07:39 COME UP, THEY ARE JUST AS LIKELY TO COME UP OUTSIDE OF
01:07:44 THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT
01:07:46 PROCESS, SOMEONE DIGGING IN THEIR BACKYARD, THEY COULD
01:07:49 COME ACROSS SOMETHING, NEW PAPERS BEING LAID IN
01:07:52 RIGHT-OF-WAY, THINGS COULD BE FOUND, OR A LOT OF TIMES IN
01:07:55 LARGE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS THEY WILL DO A STUDY, AND
01:07:59 THEY WILL FIND THINGS AS A RESULT OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL
01:08:02 STUDIES.
01:08:03 SO THESE ISSUES OFTEN PRESENT THEMSELVES OUTSIDE OF THESE
01:08:08 DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND I THINK A RATIONAL PERSON'S
01:08:14 FIRST RESPONSE TO FINDING HUMAN REMAINS WITHOUT KNOWING
01:08:16 THEY WERE GOING TO BE THERE WOULD BE TO CONTACT LAW
01:08:19 ENFORCEMENT SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE CITY'S BEST LINE
01:08:21 OF DEFENSE LAYS, THAT EVERYONE AT TPD IS AWARE OF WHAT TO
01:08:25 DO WITH THESE TYPES OF CALLS COME IN.
01:08:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, DO WE KNOW THAT TPD KNOWS WHAT
01:08:35 THAT PROCESS IS?
01:08:37 >>KRISTIN MORA: I DON'T KNOW THE AFTERNOONS TO THAT
01:08:39 OFFHAND.
01:08:40 I DO KNOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE LEGAL MEMORANDUMS
01:08:42 AND PASS THOSE AROUND SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT
01:08:45 TO MAKE SURE ALL THE OFFICERS ARE AWARE OF WHAT TO DO IF
01:08:48 THEY ARE PRESENTED WITH THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.
01:08:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT HE WOULD BE THROUGHOUT THE
01:08:53 BUILDING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO.
01:09:00 IT STILL REMAINS WITH WHAT IS THE CITY'S FIRST LINE TO
01:09:03 PASS ON THE BUCK, SO TO SAY.
01:09:06 THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, TO GIVE A CLEAR WINDOW, WE
01:09:11 GOT A CALL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED, NOW WE HAVE TO RESPOND
01:09:14 AND SAY IT NEEDS TO GO HERE, HERE AND HERE.
01:09:17 OKAY, CLEAR ON THAT?
01:09:19 THANK YOU.
01:09:19 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:09:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. MORA, I THINK YOU AND PERHAPS YOUR
01:09:30 SUCCESSOR MIGHT CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE, A MINOR ORDINANCE,
01:09:35 TWEAK OR NEW ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD ADDRESS THIS, IN THE
01:09:41 DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
01:09:42 I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF SOMEBODY IS DIGGING AROUND IN THEIR
01:09:44 BACKYARD, PUTTING IN SHRUBS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND
01:09:49 THEY CAME ACROSS SOMETHING, HOPEFULLY THEY DO THE RIGHT
01:09:52 THING BUT IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THE CITY COULD CONTROL
01:09:55 PER SE MORE THAN THE STATE ALREADY DOES.
01:09:57 BUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IF SOMEBODY IS DOING WORK
01:10:00 AND THEY COME ACROSS SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY HAVE
01:10:05 KNOWLEDGE OF ACTUAL -- ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OR OTHERWISE,
01:10:10 THAT I THINK A STOP WORK ORDER SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE
01:10:14 BUILDING DEPARTMENT UNDER THE CODE, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS
01:10:20 THAT BUILDER, DEVELOPER, WHOEVER PULLED THAT PERMIT, CAN
01:10:26 SHOW THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE STATE
01:10:29 STATUTE.
01:10:30 WE DON'T NEED TO REWRITE THE STATUTE.
01:10:32 IT'S ALREADY THERE.
01:10:33 BUT WE NEED TO ENSURE OWN A LOCAL LEVEL THE SAME WAY WE
01:10:37 DO WITH A LOT OF STATE STATUTES THAT THERE IS COMPLIANCE.
01:10:41 AND EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT COME UP MUCH ON THESE TYPES
01:10:44 OF SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT SITUATION, I
01:10:50 THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO THE COMMUNITY THAT NO
01:10:53 FURTHER WORK PROCEEDS UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THERE IS PROOF
01:10:57 OF COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
01:10:59 >>KRISTIN MORA: I CERTAINLY HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
01:11:03 BUT THAT IS WITHIN THE AREA THAT IS TRULY PREEMPTED TO
01:11:06 THE STATE.
01:11:06 IT IS NOT THE AUTHORITY OF THE BUILDING OFFICIALS.
01:11:09 THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ONLY HAS THE POWER TO ENFORCE THE
01:11:12 BUILDING CODE.
01:11:13 THIS IS COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF THAT.
01:11:14 IT IS ACTUALLY THE LOCAL MEDICAL EXAMINER THAT HAS THE
01:11:17 POWER AND AUTHORITY AND IS AUTHORIZED FULLY UNDER THE
01:11:19 STATUTE BY ITS EXCLUSIVE TERMS TO STOP ALL ACTIVITY AT
01:11:24 THE SITE, NOT EVEN BUILDING ACTIVITY, AUTUMN ACTIVITY AT
01:11:27 THE SITE HAS TO CEASE AND IF PASSED FROM THE MEDICAL
01:11:32 EXAMINER TO THE STATE ARCHAEOLOGIST, THEN THAT DUTY TO
01:11:36 REAUTHORIZE WORK PASSES TO THE STATE ARCHAEOLOGIST BUT
01:11:39 IT'S SOLELY IN THEIR PROVINCE.
01:11:41 IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S PROVINCE TO TRY TO
01:11:45 CONTROL ON THAT BASIS.
01:11:46 THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
01:11:49 THAT GOES TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER.
01:11:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE ALL THE
01:11:52 RESEARCH ON THIS AND THAT'S YOUR OPINION?
01:11:54 WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING IN ORDINANCE THE
01:11:58 WAY IT IS?
01:11:59 >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT IS NOT MY READ OF HOW THE STATUTE
01:12:04 AND EVERYTHING LAYS OUT WITH IT.
01:12:06 NO.
01:12:06 I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN THE STATE'S
01:12:09 PROVINCE.
01:12:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY SAY, IS
01:12:15 IT ONE OF THOSE PREEMPTION STATUTES?
01:12:17 DOES IT SAY LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL SHALL NOT?
01:12:19 >>KRISTIN MORA: IT DOES NOT.
01:12:20 IT DOES NOT SAY THAT LIVES IN ITALY.
01:12:22 BUT IT SPELLS OUT EXACTLY THE PROCEDURES AND COVERS THE
01:12:26 MATERIALITY THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING, WHICH IS THE
01:12:28 STOPPING OF ACTIVITY AND THEN THAN THE REAUTHORIZATION OF
01:12:31 ACTIVITY.
01:12:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IF WE ARE NOT PRECLUDED EXPRESSLY,
01:12:35 THEN I WOULD SAY PERHAPS -- BUT ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO
01:12:41 GET IN A LEGAL ARGUMENT OVER THE DAIS WITH YOU BUT MAYBE
01:12:44 IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EXPLORE A LITTLE FURTHERMORE MORE
01:12:47 YOU CAN EXPLORE IT FURTHER, BUT THE STATUTE -- WHEN YOU
01:12:50 DO HAVE PREEMPTION, WHEN YOU HAVE THE STATE COMPLETELY
01:12:53 OCCUPYING AND R AN AREA BY THEIR TERMS, THAT ACTS AS A
01:12:57 TYPE OF PREEMPTION AS WELL, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
01:13:00 AREAS WHERE THEY ARE VERY EXPLICIT IN THEIR TERMS OF WHO
01:13:02 HAS AUTHORITY AND WHO HAS JURISDICTION FOR A LOT OF
01:13:08 THINGS.
01:13:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I RESPECT
01:13:12 YOUR OPINION, BUT I AM LOOKING AT SOMEONE DIGGING RIGHT
01:13:16 NOW AND FINDS SOMETHING.
01:13:20 THEY ARE GOING TO CALL THE FLIES FIRST.
01:13:23 THEY ARE GOING TO CALL THE POLICE FIRST.
01:13:26 IT MAY TAKE A WEEK OR COUPLE DAYS, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG
01:13:30 FOR THE STATE TO PUT A STOP ORDER.
01:13:32 I DON'T KNOW.
01:13:33 BUT I JUST FEEL THAT IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE FIND
01:13:39 REMAINS OR WHAT, WE SHOULD HAVE THE POWER IN HOME RULE TO
01:13:42 SAY, HEY, LET'S STOP THIS PROCESS UNTIL WE GET THE OTHER
01:13:45 PROCESS GOING.
01:13:46 NOT THE STATE PROCESS TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR PROCESS,
01:13:50 I WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT CALLED IN OUR CITY.
01:13:52 WE ARE SAYING HOLD THE BRAKES UNTIL WE MAKE SURE THAT THE
01:13:55 PROPER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED, AND THEN WE CAN
01:13:58 PROCEED -- AND THAT WE CAN STOP RIGHT THERE BECAUSE IF
01:14:07 THERE'S A HOMICIDE OR SOMETHING, WE DON'T CONTINUE UNTIL
01:14:10 WE FOLLOW THE STEPS TO CONTINUE.
01:14:11 SO I STILL CONTEND THAT I THINK WE COULD PUT A POLICY IN
01:14:16 PLACE WHERE WE RESPOND OR SOMETHING IS FOUND IN A CITY,
01:14:18 WE CAN SAY HOLD THE BRAKES UNTIL WE NOTIFY THE PROPER
01:14:22 PEOPLE, AND IF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER COMES OUT, THAT WE
01:14:26 HOLD THE BRAKES UNTIL WE CAN PROCEED, OR THEY CAN PROCEED
01:14:30 FURTHER.
01:14:30 >>KRISTIN MORA: COUNCILMAN, I DON'T DINS AGREE WITH THAT
01:14:33 POINT.
01:14:34 THAT'S WHY I MENTION MENTIONED THAT TPD SAN LINE OF
01:14:37 DEFENSE FOR THIS.
01:14:38 IT IS A FELONY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE.
01:14:39 SO IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT TPD
01:14:42 IS INFORMED THAT WHEN THEY DO GO OUT TO THESE THAT THE
01:14:46 MEDICAL EXAMINER NEEDS TO BE CONTACTED.
01:14:48 THAT'S THE CORRECT PROCEDURE.
01:14:49 BUT ALSO THEY CAN TELL EVERYONE, YOU DO NEED TO STOP
01:14:51 BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A FELONY FOR YOU TO CONTINUE.
01:14:54 THEN THEY CAN MAKE ARRESTS ON THAT BASIS IF NECESSARY IF
01:14:57 THEY REFUSE TO LISTEN.
01:14:58 AND I THINK THAT'S THE PROPER WAY UNDER THE STATUTE.
01:15:01 AND I THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR THE CITY TO
01:15:04 IMPLEMENT IT THROUGH WHAT'S AUTHORIZED BY THE
01:15:07 LEGISLATURE.
01:15:07 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:15:13 >> IF I UNDERSTAND, IT'S FOR RESPECT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE
01:15:20 BURIED THERE.
01:15:21 ONE ALTERNATIVE MIGHT BE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO
01:15:25 AFTERWARDS.
01:15:26 I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THE STATUTE GOES.
01:15:27 BUT HOW DO WE PAY HOMAGE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE?
01:15:31 HOW DO WE FIND WHATEVER INFORMATION THERE IS ABOUT THEM?
01:15:34 HOW DO WE DISPLAY IT? IF THERE ARE AREAS THERE THAT WE
01:15:38 COULD CONTROL, THEN THAT WOULD NOT JUST SPOKE RESPECT FOR
01:15:43 THE REMAINS BUT THEN SHOW RESPECT AFTERWARDS AND TRY TO
01:15:46 MAINTAIN THE HERITAGE.
01:15:47 >> DO WE HAVE I HAVE IN IDEA WHY THIS WAS LOST?
01:15:54 WHY DID IT DROP OFF THE HISTORY BOOKS?
01:15:57 >>KRISTIN MORA: IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT
01:16:01 EXACTLY HAPPENED HISTORICALLY.
01:16:02 I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO LET THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES
01:16:04 RESPOND TO THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, BECAUSE THEY HAVE
01:16:07 BEEN EXTREMELY INVOLVED, AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY
01:16:11 HARD IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT
01:16:15 THE ISSUES ARE OUT THERE.
01:16:18 WITH RESPECT TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT CONTINUE AFTER THE
01:16:22 FACT, THERE PROBABLY IS SOME ROOM.
01:16:24 THE STATUTE DOES PROVIDE JURISDICTION TO THE STATE AND TO
01:16:28 THE ARCHAEOLOGISTS OVER THOSE.
01:16:31 THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLAIM THAT JURISDICTION.
01:16:33 BUT THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRY AND FIND
01:16:37 AVENUES TO SEE THAT THOSE -- IF THERE'S ARTIFACTS, FOR
01:16:42 EXAMPLE, IF THOSE ARE PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF, THE HUMAN
01:16:47 REMAINS THEMSELVES, THOUGH, ALL HAVE TO BE EITHER
01:16:50 REINTERRED OR STUDIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATUTE.
01:16:53 BUT I WILL LET THE HOUSING AUTHORITY RESPOND TO THIS
01:16:56 PARTICULAR SITUATION SINCE THEY ARE MUCH MORE UP TO SPEED
01:16:59 THAN I AM.
01:16:59 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
01:17:03 JUST A COMMENT FROM ME PERSONALLY.
01:17:04 WHAT I AM SENSING FROM COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY FROM WHAT CORK
01:17:10 SAID AND -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE
01:17:21 WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON A MEMORIAL BASIS TO COMMEMORATE
01:17:24 THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US, AND WE RECENTLY OBSERVED AUGUST
01:17:28 20th WHICH I NEVER KNEW THAT WAS 400 YEARS AGO ON
01:17:32 AUGUST 20, 1619, WAS THE FIRST DOCUMENTED TIME OF
01:17:38 AFRICANS COMING THROUGH WHAT WOULD BECOME THE UNITED
01:17:40 STATES, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, I WILL JUST BE BLUNT, WITH
01:17:48 THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT THE WAY THAT IT IS, AND WITH AN
01:17:51 INCREASING, LET'S SAY, TOLERANCE OF INTOLERANCE THAT IS
01:17:55 PUBLIC, I THINK THERE'S A REAL HUNGER OUT THERE, AND I
01:17:59 SHARE THAT HUNGER, TO COMMEMORATE OUR HISTORY AND TO SHOW
01:18:02 PEOPLE, THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US AND THE RELEVANCY THAT
01:18:04 THEY HAVE TO US HERE TODAY AND TO SHOW US THAT THE
01:18:08 INTOLERANCE THAT WE SEE TODAY IS NOT NEW, IT'S BEEN WITH
01:18:11 US FOR TOO LONG AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO
01:18:13 OVERCOME.
01:18:14 SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS PART OF.
01:18:17 BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR FRIENDS FROM TAMPA HOUSING
01:18:20 AUTHORITY SPEAK.
01:18:21 THEY ARE READY.
01:18:29 PATIENT ALL MORNING.
01:18:30 AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR POINTING THAT
01:18:33 OUT AS WELL.
01:18:34 >> LEROY MOORE, OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, WAS
01:18:38 INITIALLY GOING TO GIVE THIS REPORT. HE IS AT ANOTHER
01:18:39 MEETING.
01:18:39 I'M DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
01:18:43 JUST TO START UP, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF
01:18:46 SPECIFICS ABOUT ROBLES PARK.
01:18:48 IT'S THE 7th OLDEST PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITY, COLLEGE
01:18:53 HILL, PONCE DeLEON, LIVER VIEW TERRACE, CENTRAL PARK
01:18:56 VILLAGE, NORTH BOULEVARD HOMES, LOCATED 3814 CENTRAL
01:19:01 AVENUE, 433 LOW RISE FAMILY UNITS BUILT IN 1954.
01:19:08 THROUGH PROGRESSIVE AND I GUESS MODERATELY ACCURATE
01:19:13 REPORTS BY THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES," THE INFORMATION CAME TO
01:19:16 US AND WE GOT THE PHONE CALL APRIL 2019, A REPORTER SAID
01:19:20 THAT THEY DISCOVERED GRAVES AT THE ROBLES PARK SITE.
01:19:24 THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HEARD OF IT.
01:19:26 SO ALMOST A HALF CENTURY AGO, IN NOVEMBER 1951 IS WHEN
01:19:30 THESE WERE DISCOVERED.
01:19:32 SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH CREWS NOW TO RADAR, THEY COMPLETED
01:19:41 THAT STUDY EARLIER THIS WEEK.
01:19:43 WEIGHT DON'T HAVE RESULTS YET.
01:19:44 WE ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE THEM BACK SOMETIME IN OCTOBER AT
01:19:46 WHICH TIME WE WILL DEFINITELY SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE
01:19:48 FINDINGS MIGHT BE.
01:19:51 IF WE FIND THERE ARE INDEED BODIES THERE, THE RESIDENTS
01:19:55 THAT ARE OCCUPYING THAT PARTICULAR HALF, NOT HALF BUT A
01:20:00 THIRD OF THE PROPERTY, WILL BE RELOCATED TO OTHER
01:20:05 COMMUNITIES.
01:20:12 A CEMETERY ONCE OCCUPIED TWO AND A HALF ACRES, THERE ARE
01:20:17 ONLY FIVE BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW WHERE
01:20:20 THOSE BODIES WERE, OR THE CASKETS WERE DISCOVERED, FIVE
01:20:23 BUILDINGS, AND THOSE WOULD BE THE 96 PEOPLE THAT WOULD
01:20:26 HAVE TO BE RELOCATED BECAUSE OF THE FINDINGS THERE.
01:20:30 AFTER REVIEWING THOUSANDS OF HISTORICAL RECORDS AND
01:20:33 CONDUCTING DOZENS OF INTERVIEWS, REPORTERS HAVE
01:20:36 IDENTIFIED DEATH CERTIFICATES FOR 383 PEOPLE WHO WERE
01:20:40 BURIED AT THE CEMETERY FROM 1913 TO 1920.
01:20:46 WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS GOING ON, I WAS THREE-YEAR-OLD.
01:20:49 I DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA, NONE OF US DID THEN, BUT WE WANT
01:20:54 TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND BE RESPECTFUL OF THE DECEASED
01:20:59 THAT ARE THERE.
01:21:01 WE WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE A MEMORIAL WALL, LIST ALL
01:21:04 THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT WERE
01:21:08 THERE, AND WE WANT TO PUT A MEMORIAL THERE FOR THOSE
01:21:11 FOLKS.
01:21:12 IT WILL BE JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
01:21:15 ONE OF THE QUESTIONS HAS BEEN ASKED, WHY MOVE PEOPLE?
01:21:18 WHY CAN'T PEOPLE STAY ON THE CEMETERY SITE?
01:21:21 WELL, BECAUSE WE CAN DO BETTER AND WE KNOW TO DO THE
01:21:25 RIGHT THING AND THIS IS WHAT WE ENDEAVOR TO DO.
01:21:27 SO AFTER THIS INFORMATION, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY
01:21:34 COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH US, AND COMPRISES OF TEN COMMUNITY
01:21:39 EMGS MEMBERS INCLUDING FROM USF AND OUR GROUND
01:21:43 PENETRATING RADAR.
01:21:45 SO WE WANT TO JUST, AS I SAID, RESPECT THE BODIES, ERECT
01:21:51 A MEMORIAL, AND JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.
01:21:54 AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I CAN TELL YOU UNTIL WE GET THE
01:21:56 RESULTS BACK.
01:21:57 AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.
01:21:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
01:22:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE MR. RYAN HERE.
01:22:08 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, THAT WHEN THE
01:22:11 HOUSING AUTHORITY DID LEARN THIS SITUATION, THEY JUMPED
01:22:14 RIGHT ON IT.
01:22:16 WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, AND THE COMMUNITY IS
01:22:20 APPRECIATIVE OF YOU JUMPING.
01:22:22 I HAVE BEEN TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS WITH THE ARCHAEOLOGIST
01:22:25 GROUP, AND ALSO THEY HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AT THE
01:22:27 MEETING AS WELL, AND THEY ARE REALLY TRYING TO GET A
01:22:30 HANDS-ON WITHIN COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.
01:22:32 IT'S WANT TO THANK THE ORGANIZATION FOR JUMPING ON THE
01:22:38 REPORTS THAT WE ASKED FOR.
01:22:39 >> JEROME RYAN, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
01:22:42 IT -- WE FELT AN OBLIGATION TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND
01:22:48 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.
01:22:49 ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY.
01:22:50 IT'S A COORDINATED EFFORT.
01:22:52 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND, WE ARE GOING
01:22:54 TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE
01:22:57 CARE OF THE PROBLEM AND SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE
01:22:59 RESIDENTS IN ADDITION TO MAKING SURE THAT WE DO WHATEVER
01:23:04 IS NECESSARY TO RESPECT THE SITUATION OVER THERE.
01:23:07 >> THERE IS A MEETING TONIGHT AT THE PROPERTY FOR ALL OF
01:23:13 THE RESIDENTS OF ROBLES PARK.
01:23:15 >> NOT NECESSARILY ALL.
01:23:18 JUST THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE FIVE OR SIX BUILDINGS.
01:23:20 >> YEAH, BECAUSE IF THERE IS A PROBLEM -- WE HAVE
01:23:28 CONTACTED PEOPLE, CAN COUNSEL THEM.
01:23:31 ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING.
01:23:32 SO WE WILL BE MEETING TONIGHT.
01:23:35 ALL THE RESIDENTS RECEIVED LETTERS FROM THE HOUSING
01:23:39 AUTHORITY STATING WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHY WE ARE DOING
01:23:42 THIS SO NO ONE IS IN THE DARK.
01:23:43 BUT TONIGHT WE'LL HAVE A QUESTION-AND-ANSWER PERIOD FOR
01:23:45 THE RESIDENTS WHO MAY --
01:23:50 >> IT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
01:23:51 ABOUT FIVE OR SIX, FIVE OR SIX BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.
01:23:55 ABOUT 68 BUILDINGS ALL TOLD.
01:23:57 AND THERE'S FIVE OR SIX BUILDINGS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A
01:24:00 PROBLEM.
01:24:01 WE ARE NOT SURE.
01:24:01 UNTIL WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION, ALL THE FACTS, I'M NOT
01:24:06 PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT AT THIS POINT.
01:24:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT TIME IS THE MEETING?
01:24:13 >> 5:30 IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM NEXT DOOR.
01:24:14 >> AND THE RESIDENTS, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM TO GIVE
01:24:18 THEM AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.
01:24:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GIVE CREDIT TO WRITING THIS
01:24:27 ARTICLE.
01:24:27 I KNEW HE WAS WORKING ON SOMETHING BUT HE KEPT IT VERY
01:24:31 HUSH-HUSH AND RIGHTFULLY SO, BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT
01:24:35 ARE HERE ON THIS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S 1 OR 100,
01:24:43 THEY DESERVE RESPECT JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
01:24:45 IT'S FAR TOO IMPORTANT.
01:24:47 AND TO ECHO COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR BEING
01:24:51 RESPONSIVE.
01:24:51 YOU JUMPED ON IT.
01:24:52 WE ARE NOT WASTING TIME.
01:24:54 WE ARE NOT MAKING EXCUSEs.
01:24:56 AND THESE ARE PIONEERS.
01:24:57 THESE ARE PEOPLE -- WE DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THE GRAVES ARE,
01:25:00 BUT FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, WHEN TAMPA WAS FIRST
01:25:03 BEING BUILT, THE ROBLES NAME IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
01:25:09 EVERYONE DESERVES EQUAL RESPECT.
01:25:11 SO I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT BY THEN THEM.
01:25:15 >> ABSOLUTELY.
01:25:16 IT WAS QUITE DISTURBING TO US, TOO, TO KNOW, AND THE
01:25:19 NEWSPAPER REPORTER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF LAYING OUT ALL
01:25:23 THE DETAILS AND ALL THE INFORMATION.
01:25:24 AND IT KIND OF GAVE US A STARTING POINT.
01:25:27 BECAUSE WE WERE UNAWARE OF ANY OF THIS, TOO.
01:25:31 I WAS A TWINKLE IN MY MOTHER'S EYE AT THE TIME.
01:25:38 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN
01:25:40 CARLSON.
01:25:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR COMING AND GIVING US AN
01:25:44 UPDATE ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.
01:25:46 AS A RELATED SUBJECT, YOU ALL MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY
01:25:50 POSSIBLE RELOCATION OF CERTAIN FOLKS WHO MIGHT LIVE IN
01:25:53 THOSE FIVE BUILDINGS.
01:25:55 I HAD HEARD AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO THAT MOBILES
01:25:58 WAS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE REDONE, OR AS YOU
01:26:03 HAVE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB IN OTHER PROJECTS THAT SORT OF
01:26:08 HAVE REACHED THEIR LIFE, THAT ROBLES WAS ONE OF THOSE.
01:26:12 AND IT'S NOT THE MOST WONDERFUL FACILITY, I'M SURE.
01:26:17 SO JUST AS RELATED TO THIS, AND GENERALLY FOR THE
01:26:21 COMMUNITY, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF ROBLES?
01:26:24 >> THAT IS OUR NEXT PRIORITY.
01:26:26 ROBLES PARK IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR US NOW.
01:26:28 WE HAVE GOTTEN STARTED.
01:26:30 CENTRAL PARK, NORTH BOULEVARD, ALL OF THAT.
01:26:32 SO ROBLES PARK IS OUR NEXT NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
01:26:35 IT WILL BEING SEVERAL YEARS, PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR YEARS
01:26:39 BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING IN THAT AREA.
01:26:41 BUT THIS MAY CAUSE US TO FACE THE PROCESS, QUITE FRANKLY.
01:26:49 >> IT'S ONE OF THE MOST AFFORDABLE PROPERTIES.
01:26:52 AND WHEN WE DO RELOCATION, RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE FUNDS TO
01:26:57 GO MOVE TO ANOTHER APARTMENT, THEY WANT TO GO SOMEPLACE
01:27:00 ELSE.
01:27:01 THEY HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITY.
01:27:05 WHEN WE DO A RELOCATION, THAT IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS, TO
01:27:09 GO TO ROBLES OR TO SOMEPLACE ELSE.
01:27:13 >> AND WE PAY FOR ALL THE RELOCATION COSTS.
01:27:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW TRADITIONALLY YOU GUYS KIND OF
01:27:19 LEVELED EVERYTHING AND THEN REBUILT EVERYTHING ALL AT
01:27:21 ONCE.
01:27:21 I'M WONDERING MAYBE IF YOU PAVED IT IN, THEN THAT WAY IF
01:27:25 SOMEBODY HAS TO MOVE, THEY MIGHT MOVE OVER HERE AND NOT
01:27:28 HAVE TO MOVE TOO FAR AND THEN PHASE THEM BACK INTO
01:27:31 SOMETHING NEW AS OPPOSED TO ALL, YOU KNOW.
01:27:33 >> INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT.
01:27:36 IT IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR OPTIONS AT THIS POINT.
01:27:38 WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY TO DO JUST THAT,
01:27:40 PHASING IT IN.
01:27:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
01:27:43 >> TO ADD ONTO THAT, YOU KNOW THAT THE NEED FOR
01:27:48 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SO GREAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
01:27:50 I GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE ALL DAY LONG.
01:27:52 IT TEARS MY HEART OUT.
01:27:55 THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO.
01:27:56 I WENT TO A CONFERENCE IN BOSTON, AND IN BOSTON THEY HAVE
01:28:00 100 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS, I MEAN COMMUNITIES.
01:28:05 OUT OF THE 100 UNITS, COMMUNITIES, WE ONLY HAVE 75 OF
01:28:10 THOSE THAT HAVE PROPERTY LEFT EVEN TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
01:28:12 HOUSING ON.
01:28:13 A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT IN A PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITY IN
01:28:17 BOSTON IS $1200 A MONTH.
01:28:20 A TWO BEDROOM IS $3600.
01:28:22 BUT YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE.
01:28:24 SO IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET IN, THEY AREN'T GETTING OUT.
01:28:27 AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING HERE IN THIS CITY AND THIS
01:28:30 COUNTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
01:28:33 OUR DEVELOPERS AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES WHO
01:28:36 ARE BUILDING THESE HIGH-RISE COMMUNITIES, LUXURY CONDOS
01:28:41 OVER HERE, BUT THEY ARE FORGETTING ABOUT PEOPLE HONOR
01:28:44 JUST NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
01:28:46 SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT.
01:28:48 >> RYAN: AND ONE PROBLEM THAT'S PECULIAR TO MOST MAJOR
01:28:56 CITIES, AND IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE VENTURE.
01:28:59 SOME DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
01:29:01 AND WE ARE FORTUNATE IN THIS CITY THAT THE R A NUMBER OF
01:29:04 PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE NEED.
01:29:05 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.
01:29:07 AND I THINK WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WORKING WITH THE
01:29:10 COUNTY, I THINK WE WILL GET SOME THINGS DONE.
01:29:12 I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME THINGS DONE.
01:29:14 BUT IT'S SUCH A MAJOR NEED.
01:29:16 I THINK EVERYBODY ASSUMES THAT PEOPLE MOVES TO THE TAMPA
01:29:19 BAY AREA WILL MAKE $100,000 A YEAR.
01:29:23 THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
01:29:24 WE TALK TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY MAKING FAR LESS AND IT'S
01:29:27 DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO FIND A PLACE TO MOVE TO.
01:29:30 WE ARE THE MAJOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGENCY IN THIS
01:29:32 COMMUNITY.
01:29:36 EVEN A MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:29:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT ROBLES IS ITS
01:29:44 LOCATION.
01:29:44 REALLY A GREAT LOCATION.
01:29:45 OUT WANT TO TALK ABOUT CENTRALLY LOCATED, AND MLK AND
01:29:50 FLORIDA AND TRANSPORTATION, AND REALLY I CAN SEE IT AS A
01:29:55 REAL TRANSIT ORIENTED OPPORTUNITY, TOD, AND IT'S A GREAT
01:30:03 LOCATION.
01:30:04 AND THAT'S WHY FOLKS IN THAT INCOME BRACKET NEED -- ALSO
01:30:08 THEY NEED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
01:30:11 THANK YOU.
01:30:11 >> CAN'T AFFORD TO BE A HOMEOWNER EITHER.
01:30:17 EVERYBODY CAN'T BE A HOMEOWNER.
01:30:19 SO A HOME IS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE AND EVERYBODY CAN'T
01:30:22 AFFORD TO LIVE DOWNTOWN.
01:30:30 >>BILL CARLSON: BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS, AFFORDABLE
01:30:33 HOUSING IS A HIGH OPERATOR SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO
01:30:36 PARTNERING WITH YOU ALL, HOPING THAT WE START TO LOOK AT
01:30:39 CRA MONEY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN FOLLOW THE STATUTE
01:30:42 AND FOCUS MORE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE.
01:30:44 BUT JUST TO ALSO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID,
01:30:51 THANKS TO PAUL GUZO FOR COVERING THE STORY BUT TO HIS
01:30:55 EDITOR AND THE TIMES FOR COVERING HISTORY AND CULTURE.
01:31:00 AS HE KNOWS BETTER THAN ANY OF US PROBABLY, THIS WHOLE
01:31:04 STORY WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST WITHOUT THAT.
01:31:06 ONE LAST LITTLE PLUG.
01:31:07 I HAVE SEEN A BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FIVE
01:31:12 DOLLARS OR SEVEN DOLLARS THEY HAD TO PAY TO GET PAST THE
01:31:15 FIREWALL FOR THE TIMES, AND THAT IS WHAT PAYS FOR US TO
01:31:18 UNCOVER HUGE STORIES LIKE THIS, THAT ARE CRITICALLY
01:31:21 IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
01:31:22 PLEASE IF YOU CAN, PAY IT AND LET'S SUPPORT OUR LOCAL
01:31:25 MEDIA OUTLETS.
01:31:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHTFULLY OH SO.
01:31:30 ANYBODY ELSE?
01:31:31 NO?
01:31:32 THIS IS TOO BIG OF AN ISSUE TO SET ASIDE AND WE ARE DOING
01:31:37 THE RIGHT THING.
01:31:37 >> THE MAYOR HAS BEEN EXTREMELY COOPERATIVE, MADE
01:31:43 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES, AND
01:31:46 WE ARE GLAD TO SEE THAT.
01:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE WE ARE JUMPING BACK TO
01:31:50 ITEM 76 BUT WE HAVE A MEMO FROM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
01:31:54 KRISTIN MORA.
01:31:56 REGARDING A CONTINUANCE.
01:31:57 >>KRISTIN MORA: YES, THANK YOU.
01:32:00 ITEM NUMBER 76.
01:32:02 WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THIS BE CONTINUED UNTIL SEPTEMBER
01:32:06 19th.
01:32:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO
01:32:11 SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE? NO?
01:32:13 SEEING NONE.
01:32:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
01:32:17 IN LOOKING AT THIS, AND MY ASSISTANT LYNETTE LOOKING AT,
01:32:24 EVEN THOUGH I WAS ON THE VARIANCE BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE
01:32:26 BACK THEN, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT I WAS PRESENT ON THIS
01:32:32 PARTICULAR EVENING THAT THEY VOTED ON THIS.
01:32:36 SO WITH THAT I WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING NO ON THE
01:32:38 CONTINUANCE.
01:32:40 I DON'T SEE YOUR NAME ON THERE EITHER.
01:32:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
01:32:46 76 IS NOT --
01:32:50 >>KRISTIN MORA: JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
01:32:52 THERE IS AN UNDERLYING VARIANCE THAT WAS -- THAT THIS
01:32:57 DEALT WITH.
01:32:58 SO I WILL NEED TO GO BACK, AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
01:33:04 THANK YOU.
01:33:04 WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO YOU ON THE 19th I WILL HAVE
01:33:06 ASCERTAINED WHO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO RECUSE THEMSELVES ON
01:33:10 IT.
01:33:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I STAND CORRECTED.
01:33:13 THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
01:33:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RECORD, THIS
01:33:16 BEING A REQUIRED CONTINUANCE, WOULD YOU AGREE BECAUSE IT
01:33:19 HADN'T BEEN NOTICED?
01:33:20 IS THAT THE ISSUE?
01:33:22 >>KRISTIN MORA: THIS WAS NOT NOTICED, BUT THE REQUEST
01:33:24 FOR RELIEF DOES NOT REQUIRE NOTICE.
01:33:27 THE UNDERLYING RECOMMENDATIONS REQUIRE NOTICE SO WE ASK
01:33:30 THAT THEY BE NOTICED.
01:33:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE.
01:33:33 >>KRISTIN MORA: THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF ITSELF SHOULD BE
01:33:35 CONTINUED.
01:33:35 THE UNDERLYING POTENTIAL APPROVAL IF COUNCIL ENTERTAINS
01:33:40 THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF IS WHAT WOULD BE NOTICED.
01:33:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I GUESS MY QUESTION THE IS THEN COUNCIL
01:33:46 REALLY DOES NOT HAVE DISCRETION IN THE SENSE THAT I AM
01:33:48 LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER THIS IS PURELY ADMINISTERIAL
01:33:52 ACTION OF COUNCIL, THEREFORE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY
01:33:54 CONFLICT OR ABSTAINING.
01:33:55 >>KRISTIN MORA: THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
01:33:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
01:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
01:34:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
01:34:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC --
01:34:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT'S A CONTINUANCE.
01:34:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER
01:34:11 19, 2019, AT 9:30 A.M.
01:34:14 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:34:17 ALL IN FAVOR.
01:34:17 ALL RIGHT.
01:34:18 NUMBER 77 WE DID.
01:34:20 WE GO TO NUMBER 78.
01:34:21 PETITION FOR REVIEW.
01:34:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON BOTH ITEMS 78, 79, I WAS CHAIR OF THE
01:34:27 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD THOSE TIMES.
01:34:30 I AM SUBMITTING MY 78-B PAPERWORK, AND I AM RECUSING.
01:34:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BE NOTED AS ABSTAINING ON BOTH.
01:34:41 THANK YOU.
01:34:41 >>KRISTIN MORA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I HAVE REVIEWED
01:34:44 THE MINUTES OF BOTH OF THESE TWO ITEMS AND YOU WERE NOT
01:34:47 PRESENT FOR EITHER ONE OF THESE HEARINGS.
01:34:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:34:56 NUMBER 78.
01:34:56 >>KRISTIN MORA: NUMBER 78 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A
01:35:09 VARIANCE AT 3605 WEST PLATT STREET.
01:35:16 I HAVE PASSED OUT THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW AS WELL AS
01:35:17 SECTION 27-88 REGARDING THE APPLICATION OF THE VARIANCE
01:35:20 POWER.
01:35:21 THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW.
01:35:23 AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:35:25 OTHERWISE, TOWANDA ANTHONY WILL ADDRESS THE FACTS OF THIS
01:35:34 INDIVIDUAL CASE.
01:35:34 >> TOWANDA ANTHONY, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
01:35:50 THIS IS A REPEAL OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD,
01:35:53 APPLICATION VRB 19-28.
01:35:55 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3605 WEST PLATT STREET.
01:35:59 THE APPLICANT IS LYNN RYDENE.
01:36:07 THE REQUEST IS AS FOLLOWS: FOR SECTION 27-166 AND
01:36:13 27-290, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD
01:36:18 SET BACK FROM 7 FEET TO 1.1 FEET, AND THE WEST SIDE YARD
01:36:22 SETBACK FROM 3 FEET TO 1.1 FEET TO ALLOW AN EXISTING
01:36:26 DETACHED GARAGE AND AN AWNING TO REMAIN.
01:36:32 THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RS-60 AND WAS PURCHASED IN 1993.
01:36:36 THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE WAS BUILT IN 1941.
01:36:40 ACCORDING TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER IT
01:36:43 APPEARS THAT THERE IS ALSO A SHED IN THE REAR OF THE
01:36:47 STRUCTURE THAT WAS ALSO CONE INSTRUCTED IN 1991.
01:36:57 HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE SITE.
01:37:01 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
01:37:03 WEST PLATT STREET.
01:37:10 HERE IS A VIEW OF THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
01:37:13 HERE IS A VIEW FACING WEST.
01:37:17 AND HERE IS A VIEW FACING EAST.
01:37:23 HERE IS A SITE PLAN.
01:37:29 HERE IS A STRUCTURE ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
01:37:31 THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE.
01:37:33 THEY ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS FROM 7 FEET TO
01:37:38 1.1.
01:37:39 HERE IS THE STRUCTURE IN THE REAR WHERE THEY REQUESTED A
01:37:41 REDUCTION FROM 3 FEET TO 4.1 FEET.
01:37:44 AT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HEARING THE GARAGE IN THE
01:37:47 REAR, THE REQUEST WAS GRANTED.
01:37:48 WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE
01:37:51 -- IT WAS NOT GRANTED AS PART OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST, AND
01:37:56 THE APPLICANT IS HERE NOW TO DISCUSS THAT REQUEST.
01:37:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:38:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] WE HAVE THREE
01:38:05 PHOTOGRAPHS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE
01:38:09 AWNING?
01:38:12 >> I DID NOT.
01:38:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR FUTURE REFERENCE OF GOING TO THE
01:38:18 TROUBLE OF TAKING THE PICTURES AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
01:38:22 GO BESIDE THERE.
01:38:24 I KNOW YOU CAN'T GO ON THE PROPERTY TO TAKE PICTURES.
01:38:26 BUT IN THIS CASE YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE GONE.
01:38:29 THANK YOU.
01:38:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE MR. MICHELINI BEGINS, I WANT TO
01:38:35 POINT OUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD YOU HAVE
01:38:37 SUBMITTED THE DVD OF THE VRB HEARING.
01:38:41 THANK YOU.
01:38:41 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DON'T THINK THIS TIME IS RIGHT.
01:38:47 FIVE MINUTES?
01:38:51 THANK YOU.
01:38:53 I WAS NOT THE PRESENTER AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING.
01:38:57 THE PROPERTY OWNERS CONTACTED ME FOLLOWING THAT BECAUSE
01:39:02 THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND SOME CONFUSION ABOUT
01:39:04 WHAT WAS BEING REQUESTED.
01:39:06 LET ME START BY SAYING THERE WERE TWO PORTIONS OF THIS
01:39:11 VARIANCE.
01:39:12 ONE WAS FOR AN EXISTING GARAGE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1941.
01:39:16 AND THE VRB VOTED TO GRANT THEM THAT WAIVER AS IT WAS
01:39:22 ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED.
01:39:24 SO THAT PORTION OF THE VARIANCE NO LONGER IS BEFORE YOU.
01:39:28 WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS THE AWNING THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE
01:39:32 GARAGE, AND YES, COUNCILMAN, I DO HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF
01:39:36 THAT AND THE APPROXIMATE I AM TIM TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
01:39:42 IT WOULD SEEM ODD TO ME THAT LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T AT THE
01:39:45 HEARING, BUT IT SEEMED ODD THAT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION
01:39:47 ABOUT AN AWNING THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE, AND YET
01:39:51 THEY VESTED THE GARAGE.
01:39:53 THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1941.
01:39:56 THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE '79.
01:40:01 IN 1995, THERE WERE REVISIONS AND RENOVATIONS AND
01:40:05 REMODELING THAT OCCURRED AT THE HOUSE.
01:40:08 AND IN 2001 THEY HIRED CREIGHTON BROTHERS AWNING COMPANY
01:40:14 TO INSTALL A REPLACEMENT AWNING FOR THE HOUSE.
01:40:17 I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU, WHEN I SAY REPLACEMENT AWNING, I
01:40:22 AM GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY.
01:40:24 IS THAT SHOWING UP ON YOUR SCREEN?
01:40:27 THE MIDDLE AWNINGS SURROUNDING THE HOUSE.
01:40:32 THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A FAIRLY OLD PHOTOGRAPH.
01:40:35 BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY WERE ALL AROUND THE HOME.
01:40:44 THE RECEIPT IS HERE FROM CREIGHTON AWNING COMPANY THAT
01:40:59 WAS PAID IN JANUARY OF 2002.
01:41:01 IT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED IN ERECTED IN 2001.
01:41:06 AND THIS IS A LICENSED CONTRACTOR.
01:41:08 SO IN THE PROCESS, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO RECALL THAT THESE
01:41:12 ARE LAY PEOPLE, AND THEY RELY UPON CONTRACTORS
01:41:16 REPRESENTING THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE NECESSARY PERMITS TO
01:41:19 CONSTRUCT SUCH AN AWNING.
01:41:21 AND HERE IS THE SIDE VIEW OF THE AWNING AND THE FENCE.
01:41:28 AND YOU CAN SEE THE GARAGE IS IN THE BACKGROUND HERE.
01:41:34 ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT THERE WAS
01:41:39 POTENTIAL FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF GOING ON THE AN ADJACENT
01:41:42 PROPERTY OWNER.
01:41:43 AND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SIX-INCH
01:41:46 GUTTERS.
01:41:47 AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE AWNING JUST UNDERNEATH THE ROOF
01:41:50 LINE THERE.
01:41:57 IN 1995, AS I SAID, THERE WAS A REMODELING THAT WAS DONE
01:42:03 TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND THESE ARE RECORDS FROM THE
01:42:08 CITY, BY THE WAY. THIS WAS FULLY PERMITTED.
01:42:10 BUT IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE AWNINGS WERE REFERENCED IN
01:42:14 THESE REMODELING PERMITS.
01:42:16 THEY WERE ISSUED AGAIN IN '95.
01:42:19 YOU HAVE TO HIMSELF RECALL, AND FOR THE NEW COUNCIL
01:42:22 MEMBERS, THE CODES CHANGED IN 1987.
01:42:25 SO WHEN THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE COMING BACK AND TRYING
01:42:28 TO REINSTALL AND REMODEL THEIR EXISTING AWNING, THEY WERE
01:42:35 GOING TO BE HELD TO A NEW CODE, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN
01:42:38 PICKED UP BY THE AWNING COMPANY, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON
01:42:42 IT WASN'T.
01:42:44 HERE IS ANOTHER DIAGRAM OF WHAT THE AWNING COMPANY
01:42:49 PROPOSED, BASIC DRAWINGS.
01:42:52 AGAIN, THE CODES HAVE CHANGED.
01:42:54 YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SUBMIT A DRAWING LIKE
01:42:56 THAT WITHOUT FOOTERS AND ANCHORS AND MORE DETAILS
01:43:00 REGARDING HOW THAT WAS TO BE CONSTRUCTED UNDER THE
01:43:04 CURRENT CODE.
01:43:10 SO AWNINGS TAKE ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT PURPOSE AND MEANING
01:43:12 NOW.
01:43:13 INSTEAD OF JUST A SHADE, THEY HAVE OTHER QUALITIES AS
01:43:20 WELL AS WEATHER PROOFING.
01:43:22 IF YOU RELY ON THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND AGAIN
01:43:25 ALMOST 19 YEARS LATER, THAT THEY ARE ISSUED A CITATION
01:43:28 FOR AN AWNING THAT'S BEEN THERE, AND THE PREVIOUS AWNINGS
01:43:31 WERE THERE, THEY WERE RECONSTRUCTED, THEY WERE SLIGHTLY
01:43:36 LARGER THAN WHAT WAR THERE ORIGINALLY, BUT THEY WERE
01:43:39 THERE.
01:43:42 AND I THINK IN TERMS OF DOES IT IMPACT, AND JUST GOING
01:43:47 THROUGH THE CRITERIA FOR VARIANCE, AND WHETHER OR NOT
01:43:50 THEY MEET THAT, THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES ARE THAT THESE
01:43:54 AWNINGS WERE THERE.
01:43:55 THEY EXISTED.
01:43:56 THEY WERE REBUILT.
01:43:57 THEY WERE REINSTALLED.
01:43:59 THEY APPARENTLY, THE PROPERTY OWNER THOUGHT THEY WERE
01:44:02 BEING INSTALLED ACCORDING TO THE CODE AND WITH THE PROPER
01:44:05 PERMITS, LICENSES, BY A LICENSED CONTRACTOR.
01:44:08 AND I WILL SHOW YOU AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE HERE, THIS IS
01:44:13 CREIGHTON BROTHERS.
01:44:14 THEY LIST THEIR CONTRACTOR NUMBER.
01:44:17 CBC 033275.
01:44:22 SO THEY ARE LEFT WITHOUT ANY RECOURSE.
01:44:26 IF THEY DON'T GET A VARIANCE, AND THAT IS PART OF THEIR
01:44:30 CRITERIA FOR HARDSHIP.
01:44:33 THEY ARE OUT THEIR $2500 THEY PAID TO HAVE IT
01:44:37 CONSTRUCTED.
01:44:38 THEN CAN'T GO BACK TO THE COMPANY AND SAY HEY, YOU KNOW,
01:44:41 CREIGHTON BROTHERS SHOULD BE HERE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
01:44:43 SAYING, HEY, WE ARE SORRY, PLEASE FORGIVE US, WE'LL GO
01:44:46 BACK AND GET PERMITS AND DO THIS CORRECTLY.
01:44:49 THE HOMEOWNER IS NOW FACED WITH HAVING TO DO THAT.
01:44:52 IT WASN'T SOMETHING THEY CREATED.
01:44:54 THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
01:44:57 WITH RESPECT TO THE DIFFICULTIES AND PRACTICAL
01:45:00 DIFFICULTIES, IT REMOVES A VERY IMPORTANT COVERING FROM
01:45:05 THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE OF THAT THEY NEED TO PROTECT THE
01:45:08 WEST SIDE.
01:45:09 THERE WERE TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT
01:45:12 WERE REMOVED ILLEGALLY.
01:45:14 THEY WERE CITED FOR THAT.
01:45:16 AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THEY GOT PERMITS TO ADDRESS THAT
01:45:21 ISSUE.
01:45:22 BUT THAT SHADE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED ON THE OTHER
01:45:25 SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, NOT THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THE
01:45:28 SHADE WAS THERE, IS NO LONGER THERE.
01:45:34 ANY ACTION THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN HAS BEEN TO COMPLY.
01:45:37 THEY DIDN'T TRY TO AVOID PERMITTING.
01:45:39 THEY DIDN'T TRY TO SLIP SOMETHING BY AND SAY, HEY, YOU
01:45:42 KNOW, THEY DIDN'T DO IT THEMSELVES.
01:45:44 IT WASN'T A SATURDAY NIGHT OR FRIDAY AFTERNOON OR
01:45:47 SATURDAY AFTERNOON KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.
01:45:49 THEY HIRED A LEGITIMATE COMPANY.
01:45:54 TO INTERFERE -- DID IT INTERFERE WITH THE SAFETY, HEALTH
01:45:58 AND WELFARE OF ANYONE ELSE?
01:46:00 NO.
01:46:00 I WILL SHOW YOU THE PICTURE WHERE ANY RUNOFF THAT COULD
01:46:03 COME OFF OF THAT EDGE OF THAT AWNING GOES INTO GRAVEL,
01:46:12 AND THEN IT'S TRANSFERRED DOWN TO THE FRONT OF THE
01:46:14 STREET.
01:46:14 IT'S NOT ENCROACHING PAST THE PROPERTY LINE.
01:46:19 APPROXIMATELY 1.1 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
01:46:21 AND REMOVING THAT, OR ONE OF THE INSPECTORS TOLD HER TO
01:46:27 DO, IF YOU JUST SEPARATE IT FROM THE HOUSE THEN IT WOULD
01:46:30 BE OKAY.
01:46:30 BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
01:46:31 YOU SEPARATE IT FROM THE HOUSE, IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
01:46:34 IT'S STILL AN ENCROACHMENT.
01:46:39 THEY HAD DONE WHAT THEY COULD DO.
01:46:41 IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL HARDSHIP ON THEM IF IT'S NOT
01:46:44 APPROVED.
01:46:45 OF THE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF EXPENSE, AND
01:46:48 THEIR OPERATING COSTS IN TERMS OF DRIVING THEIR ENERGY
01:46:51 COSTS UP FOR THEIR HOUSE.
01:46:54 IT IS SERVING THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE CODE.
01:46:57 WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER DOES TRY TO COMPLY, AND BASICALLY
01:47:00 IS LEFT TO BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER ONLY TO
01:47:03 FIND OUT THAT IT'S NOT.
01:47:08 WITH RESPECT TO THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE, THERE'S NO
01:47:11 ONE ELSE THAT'S AFFECTED.
01:47:14 I HAVE A APPELLATE SIGNED BY VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS
01:47:17 ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY WHO HAD NO OBJECTION TO THIS
01:47:20 ORIGINALLY BACK IN FEBRUARY.
01:47:23 I CAN CERTAINLY SUBMIT THAT FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
01:47:30 THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
01:47:32 AND YOU SEE THEIR ADDRESS.
01:47:34 ONE OF THEM IS A COUPLE SO I GUESS IT'S FIVE.
01:47:40 I HAVE SEARCHED ALL THE CITY RECORDS.
01:47:42 I HAVE ASKED FOR CITY STAFF ASSISTANCE IN SEARCHING THE
01:47:45 RECORDS TO FIND ANY OTHER PERMITS, ANYTHING THAT THEY
01:47:51 COULD HAVE PERHAPS SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS WHEN THEY
01:47:54 CONVERTED FROM HANDWRITTEN PERMITS OVER TO ELECTRONIC
01:47:57 RECORDS.
01:47:58 AND THE BEST WE COULD COME UP WITH WAS A 1995 REMODELING
01:48:03 PERMIT THAT SHOWS AN AWNING ON THAT SIDE AND THEN THE
01:48:06 PHOTOGRAPH THAT SHOWS THE AWNINGS WERE THERE, AND THEN
01:48:09 FOR WHATEVER REASON, CREIGHTON BROTHERS EITHER DID PULL A
01:48:12 PERMIT AND IT'S NOT IN THE RECORDS, OR THEY DIDN'T PULL A
01:48:15 PERMIT AND LED THE HOMEOWNER TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS
01:48:19 THERE.
01:48:19 I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET THE CRITERIA FOR SUBSTANTIAL
01:48:23 JUSTICE BEING DONE FOR A HARDSHIP THAT EXISTS THAT WAS
01:48:27 NOT CREATED BY THE HOMEOWNER.
01:48:29 AND IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THAN THE HEALTH, SAFETY
01:48:32 AND WELFARE WITH ANYONE ELSE OR THE RIGHTS OF ANY
01:48:35 ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
01:48:36 IT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE IN TERMS OF RELIEF THAT'S BEING
01:48:41 PROVIDED THROUGH THE VARIANCE REVIEW PROCESS AND APPEAL
01:48:43 TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO WITH THE TAMPA
01:48:46 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
01:48:48 I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
01:48:52 BUT IT WOULD BE AN EXTREME HARDSHIP ON THIS FAMILY TO
01:48:54 HAVE TO REMOVE THIS AWNING.
01:48:57 AND AGAIN, THE GARAGE THAT'S BEHIND IT WAS ALREADY
01:49:00 APPROVED FOR THE SAME SETBACK.
01:49:06 AND I WILL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE HOMEOWNER'S --
01:49:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:49:25 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
01:49:26 QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
01:49:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY.
01:49:31 MR. MICHELINI, I HAVE YOUR LIST HERE.
01:49:35 I ASSUME WHEN SHE DID HER NOTICE ON THE -- NOT ONLY ON
01:49:39 THE VARIANCE ITSELF BUT ON THE APPEAL -- YOU CAN
01:49:49 CIRCULATE IT -- THAT YOUR TESTIMONY OR HERS THAT SHE DID
01:49:53 NOT HEAR BACK FROM ANYBODY, OR IS THAT SHE DID NOT HEAR
01:49:58 BACK ANYBODY TO THE NEGATIVE?
01:50:02 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM ANYBODY
01:50:04 REGARDING THE PETITION POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE OTHER THAN
01:50:06 THE SIGNATURES THAT YOU HAVE THERE THAT WERE IN SUPPORT.
01:50:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BOTH AT THE VARIANCE LEVEL AND THE
01:50:11 APPEAL?
01:50:14 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
01:50:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION.
01:50:19 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:50:20 HOW DID THIS ORIGINATE?
01:50:23 WAS THIS JUST A CODE ENFORCEMENT DRIVE BY OR WHAT?
01:50:27 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
01:50:29 I'M NOT SURE HOW IT HAPPENED BUT THAT STREET IS FAIRLY
01:50:33 BUSINESS AND I WOULD RESPECT SOME POTENTIAL DRIVE-BY. I
01:50:37 DON'T KNOW.
01:50:41 YES, FOR THE RECORD I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
01:50:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:50:47 [OFF MICROPHONE] MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
01:50:57 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:51:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:51:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL TAKE A TRY AT IT.
01:51:21 NONE OF THESE CASES ARE EASY.
01:51:27 IF I REMEMBER WHAT I READ HERE, THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN
01:51:32 41.
01:51:32 SHE BOUGHT IT IN 79 OR SOMETHING IF I REMEMBER THE
01:51:35 NUMBERS.
01:51:36 AND SHE HIRED A REPUTABLE CONTRACTOR, MR. CREIGHTON.
01:51:41 IF I RECALL.
01:51:43 AND WHETHER IT DID OR DIDN'T PULL A PERMIT,
01:51:52 THEY BUILT IT.
01:51:53 SHE PAID $2500 TO THEM AND NOW THEY ARE OUT OF BUSINESS.
01:51:59 AND IF THEY WERE RENTING A HOUSE IN THE BACK I WOULD HAVE
01:52:08 A DIFFERENT APPEAL.
01:52:11 BUT I FEEL THAT IT'S -- I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE DECISION
01:52:14 OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND GRANT THE VARIANCE AS
01:52:18 DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED TO THIS PUBLIC
01:52:21 HEARING ON AUGUST 22ND, THE YEAR 2019.
01:52:25 AND THE VARIANCE GOING BACK FROM 7 FEET TO 1.1 FEET,
01:52:35 27-156, AND YARD SETBACK FROM 3 FEET TO 1.1-FOOT AS
01:52:44 RELATED TO CHAPTER 27-290, AND IT'S A HARDSHIP, AND
01:52:51 THERE'S BEEN SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO HARDSHIP WHEN
01:52:57 CONSIDERING THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN MY MIND OF SECTION
01:53:00 27-80 OF THE CITY CODE, AND IT'S A HARDSHIP BECAUSE THERE
01:53:06 ARE SO MANY CHANGES, '41 TO 2019, THAT IT'S HARD FOR
01:53:15 ANYONE TO DETERMINE ALL THE FACTUAL FACTS.
01:53:18 AND I LEAN ON THE SIDE OF THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WHO DID
01:53:26 EVERYTHING POSSIBLE, AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW THIS
01:53:28 BECAME EVIDENCE, USUALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT IS REACTIVE,
01:53:34 NOT PROACTIVE.
01:53:35 AND THIS CAN BE GOOD OR BAD.
01:53:38 BUTT SOMEBODY HAD TO CALL SOMEWHERE.
01:53:41 I DON'T THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD GO INTO THE HOUSE OR
01:53:45 TO THE PROPERTY WITHOUT BEING ASKED.
01:53:47 AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
01:53:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:53:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:53:54 ALL RIGHT.
01:53:57 [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:54:00 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:54:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] WE MOVE ON TO
01:54:04 NUMBER 79.
01:54:24 >>KRISTIN MORA: THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW OF THE
01:54:28 DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
01:54:32 AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU WERE NOT
01:54:34 PRESENT APT THIS HEARING.
01:54:36 IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR YOU TO ABSTAIN IN THIS MATTER.
01:54:41 THIS IS AN APPEAL NOT OF A DENIAL BUT OF THE CONDITION
01:54:46 THAT WAS PLACED ON THE APPROVAL.
01:54:50 THE BOARD GRANTED THE APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE
01:54:55 BALCONY NEVER BE ENCLOSED.
01:54:56 THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW.
01:54:59 AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:55:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] ANY QUESTIONS?
01:55:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, MS. MORA.
01:55:07 I THINK, FROM MY RECOLLECTION, THAT I WAS HERE FOR A
01:55:13 HEARING AS RELATED TO THIS PROPERTY.
01:55:16 IT MUST HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
01:55:20 GETTING A NOD FROM THE PETITIONER.
01:55:22 MUST HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
01:55:23 AND AT THE CONTINUANCE, I WAS NOT AT THE SUBSEQUENT
01:55:26 MEETING WHERE THE VOTE WAS TAKEN.
01:55:28 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, OR MR. SHELBY.
01:55:31 I DON'T REALLY RECALL MUCH MORE BEYOND THAT.
01:55:35 IN TYPICAL FASHION I PROBABLY SPOKE.
01:55:37 [ LAUGHTER ]
01:55:40 BUT ANYWAY.
01:55:42 >>KRISTIN MORA: YOU DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE END OF
01:55:46 THE DECISION AND I THINK THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE
01:55:48 PARTICIPATION IN THE DECISION AND THEN APPEALED TO YOU
01:55:51 WHEN YOU PARTICIPATE IN THAT DECISION.
01:55:53 SO --
01:55:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL RELY ON YOUR LEGAL GUIDANCE AND
01:55:59 MR. SHELBY'S LEGAL GUIDANCE, AND AS YOU SAY, I WAS NOT
01:56:05 THERE FOR THE VOTE.
01:56:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
01:56:09 I AGREE WITH MS. MORA.
01:56:11 THE QUESTION I HAD IS DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC
01:56:14 RECOLLECTION OF ANYTHING DURING THAT CONTINUANCE THAT
01:56:15 WOULD CAUSE YOU TO BE ANYTHING BUT FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?
01:56:19 AND THEN --
01:56:24 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:56:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING THE CASE I WOULD AGREE WITH
01:56:27 MS. MORA THAT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES IT WOULD BE YOUR
01:56:30 OBLIGATION.
01:56:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CARRY ON.
01:56:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:56:36 >> LAND DEVELOPMENT.
01:56:39 AS LEGAL STATED, THIS IS AN APPEAL OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW
01:56:42 BOARD FOR APPLICATION NUMBER VRB 19-33.
01:56:45 THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 7216 WEST JUANITA AVENUE.
01:56:50 THE APPLICANT IS PERRY SULLIVAN.
01:56:54 THE HEARING DATE WAS MARCH 12, 2019.
01:56:59 THE REQUEST IS AS FOLLOWS.
01:57:00 PER SECTION 27-156, THE APPLICANT SEEKING TO REDUCE REAR
01:57:06 YARD SETBACK TO EXTEND THE EXISTING REAR BALCONY.
01:57:11 THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RS-50 AND WAS PURCHASED IN 2003.
01:57:16 THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1989.
01:57:28 HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
01:57:29 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
01:57:31 HERE IS SOUTH JUANITA STREET.
01:57:35 HERE IS A VIEW OF THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
01:57:40 HERE IS A VIEW FACING WEST.
01:57:46 A HAVE YOU FACING EAST.
01:57:48 HERE IS A VIEW OF THE EXISTING BALCONY.
01:57:55 HERE IS A SITE PLAN.
01:57:56 HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING BALCONY I, THE AREA IN THE
01:57:59 HATCHED RED IS THE SECTION THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
01:58:03 AGAIN, THE VARIANCE WAS APPROVED, BUT IT WAS A CONDITION
01:58:06 ON THE VARIANCE AND COULD NEVER BE ENCLOSED AND HERE
01:58:11 BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK THE CONDITION BE OVERTURNED.
01:58:15 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
01:58:21 THANK YOU.
01:58:21 PETITIONER.
01:58:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE RECORD, MR. SULLIVAN HAS
01:58:26 PROVIDED A DVD OF THE HEARING FOR THE RECORD.
01:58:30 THANK YOU.
01:58:37 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.
01:58:39 >> PERRY SULLIVAN.
01:58:43 AS STATED BEFORE.
01:58:47 THE PARTLY IN THE RED, WE WANTED TO EXTEND THE BALCONY TO
01:58:50 MAKE IT USABLE.
01:58:55 WHEN WE SENT OUT LETTERS BOTH TIMES, FIRST TIME THERE WAS
01:58:59 ONE PERSON THAT CAME UP BUT HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
01:59:01 HE JUST CAME FROM CLARITY.
01:59:03 THE SECOND TIME THERE WAS NO ONE AT ALL THAT EVEN
01:59:05 BOTHERED ADDRESS WHAT WE WERE DOING.
01:59:08 AND THIS IS THE BALCONY NOW.
01:59:16 WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ABOUT HALF THE BALCONY, WE WANT TO
01:59:21 ENCLOSE THAT PARTLY AND HAVE SOME SPACE WITHOUT
01:59:27 MOSQUITOES AND BUGS OUTSIDE.
01:59:30 THIS SHOWS THE PROJECT.
01:59:37 THE ENCLOSURE WOULD BE HERE.
01:59:39 THIS IS THE NEXT CLOSEST NEIGHBOR.
01:59:42 JUST A JUNGLE BETWEEN THE TWO.
01:59:54 AND THIS SHOWS THIS PART, HALF THE ENCLOSURE.
02:00:02 ANY QUESTIONS?
02:00:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU SHOW ME THE ENCLOSURE?
02:00:24 >> THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT ENCLOSED.
02:00:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
02:00:30 >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
02:00:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
02:00:38 >> YES, SIR.
02:00:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THERE A LAKE IN THE BACK?
02:00:59 >> SWAMP.
02:01:00 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:01:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SULLIVAN, PERHAPS THE CONFUSION,
02:01:06 OR THE MISUNDERSTANDING OR DISAGREEMENT IS IN THE WORD
02:01:11 ENCLOSURE.
02:01:13 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T FOUND THE VRB DIFFERENT TIMES IN MANY
02:01:21 YEARS, I ALWAYS PUSH VERY HARD WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN FOR
02:01:24 A PORCH, YOU KNOW.
02:01:26 I ALWAYS PUSH VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T
02:01:28 BECOME A ROOM.
02:01:31 BUT WOULD YOU DESCRIBE A LITTLE EARLIER, YOU WERE SAYING
02:01:35 SCREEN AS IN --
02:01:38 >> A SCREEN ENCLOSURE.
02:01:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A ROOF, AS A
02:01:42 HARD ROOF, KEEP THE RAIN OUT?
02:01:45 WITH A SCREEN PORCH AROUND IT?
02:01:48 >> YES.
02:01:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT WINDOWS.
02:01:50 NOT WALLS.
02:01:52 NOT WINDOWS?
02:01:59 IF SHE WANTS TO COME FORWARD, THAT'S FINE.
02:02:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THE APPLICANT.
02:02:03 >> IT'S UP TO YOU.
02:02:04 >> SOUTH JUANITA STREET, PROPERTY OWNER.
02:02:08 SORRY.
02:02:11 YEAH, I AM TRYING TO IMPROVE MY PROPERTY BECAUSE I AM
02:02:16 DOWN WHERE LENNAR IS BUILDING AND I DO WANT TO ENCLOSE
02:02:19 IT, AND MAKE IT AIR CONDITIONED SPACE.
02:02:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WANT TO MAKE IT AIR CONDITIONED.
02:02:24 >> I DEFINITELY DO.
02:02:25 WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AIR CONDITIONED, NON-AIR CONDITIONED,
02:02:31 SCREENED, NOT SCREENED.
02:02:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU SPEAK TO THAT WITH THE VRB?
02:02:35 DID YOU MAKE IT CLEAR?
02:02:36 >> NO, IT WAS NOT MADE CLEAR.
02:02:38 I THINK MR. SULLIVAN AND I HAD SOME TYPE OF
02:02:40 MISCOMMUNICATION BECAUSE I ALWAYS INTENDED TO ENCLOSE IT
02:02:43 AND I WAS SHOCKED WHEN THEY SAID NEVER ENCLOSE WHICH I
02:02:46 THINK IN MY PRETTY IS PRETTY -- OPINION IS PRETTY HARSH.
02:02:51 ALSO IF I WANT TO RESELL MY PROPERTY, THAT VARIANCE GOES
02:02:54 WITH THE PROPERTY.
02:02:55 SO IF SOMEBODY BOUGHT MY PROPERTY THEY COULDN'T ENCLOSE
02:02:58 IT EITHER.
02:02:59 I AM TRYING TO DO THINGS TO IMPROVE. THIS IS THE FRONT
02:03:01 OF MY HOUSE NOW.
02:03:02 I HAVE REDONE THE DRIVEWAY.
02:03:06 WITH PAVERS.
02:03:07 THIS IS THE CANAL THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE
02:03:09 FRONT.
02:03:12 I HAVE REDONE MY KITCHEN.
02:03:14 I AM JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE LENNARS.
02:03:18 AND THE ENCLOSURE, I WENT TO ANDERSON ALUMINUM, AND THEY
02:03:24 DID THIS DRAWING FOR ME.
02:03:28 AND IT WOULD BE LIKE A FLORIDA ROOM.
02:03:33 AND BECAUSE OF THE INGRESS-EGRESS, WE COULDN'T ENCLOSE
02:03:37 THE ENTIRE DECK BECAUSE THE BEDROOM SLIDING GLASS DOORS
02:03:41 WOULDN'T ALLOW THE ROOF TO BE PUT OVER TOP OF IT.
02:03:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER THING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:03:53 I THINK THE OTHER PART OF THE CONFUSION THAT CAME IN IS
02:03:57 THE FACT THAT IT SAYS TO EXTEND A BALCONY.
02:04:00 I THINK WHEN A BODY HEARS THAT WORD ESPECIALLY TAMPA
02:04:04 VARIANCE BOARD WHICH DEALS WITH A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT
02:04:07 PORCHES, BALCONIES, THAT SORT OF THING, AND ESPECIALLY
02:04:10 SEEING THE PICTURE, I THINK THEY JUST THOUGHT, WELL, YOU
02:04:13 WANT TO EXTEND IF BALCONY IN YOUR REAR YARD AND THERE'S
02:04:18 NOBODY IN YOUR REAR YARD SO THERE'S NO HARM THERE,
02:04:21 PERHAPS.
02:04:23 BUT IT'S ACTUALLY AN EXTENSION, SORT OF A ROOM EXTENSION.
02:04:28 SO I THINK PERHAPS THAT CONTRIBUTED.
02:04:30 BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO THAT.
02:04:33 THANK YOU.
02:04:33 >> ANYONE ELSE?
02:04:39 THANK YOU.
02:04:41 PETITIONER?
02:04:44 THANK YOU, SIR.
02:04:44 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 79?
02:04:47 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:04:49 >> SECOND.
02:04:50 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:04:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:04:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:04:56 ANY OPPOSED?
02:04:56 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
02:04:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT IT AND
02:05:12 I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
02:05:16 WHEN I SEE THIS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS, NEVER BE
02:05:21 ENCLOSED.
02:05:22 BUT THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE REALITY, WHERE THE PROPERTY
02:05:25 IS AT, AND THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR TO THE BACK,
02:05:30 AND THE NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, IT WASN'T
02:05:35 ENCLOSED, BUT THEY HAD A PATIO OR SOMETHING BACK THERE.
02:05:38 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PATIO, A PORCH OR WHATEVER IT WAS,
02:05:41 BUT I COULDN'T SEE ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
02:05:43 SO I JUST FEEL THAT THE HARM TO ANYONE WOULD BE TO HER.
02:05:59 THERE'S A POND OR CREEK OR SOMETHING NEXT TO IT.
02:06:01 THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF TREES.
02:06:02 AND THEN THERE'S RESIDENCE IN THE BACK.
02:06:05 AND I COULDN'T TELL ANY OTHER RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER
02:06:07 THING, THE DRIVEWAY, THE DITCH, THE POND, WHATEVER YOU
02:06:10 WANT TO CALL IT.
02:06:11 SO I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE BOARD'S DECISION OF THE VRB TO
02:06:17 GRANT THE VARIANCE AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED
02:06:21 TO THE PUBLIC, AT IT THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 22ND
02:06:24 OF 2019, AND BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTING
02:06:31 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE UNNECESSARY
02:06:33 HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY WE ARE CONSIDERING,
02:06:37 HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-80 OF THE CITY
02:06:41 CODE, AND EVERYTHING IS BASED ON LOCATION.
02:06:48 IF THIS WAS NO NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU HAD BACK TO BACK,
02:06:52 AND FENCE AND NEXT DOOR, BOTH SIDES, I WOULD UNDERSTAND
02:06:55 THAT.
02:06:56 BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK THIS IS AN ISOLATED PROPERTY, I
02:07:02 DON'T MEAN ACRES AND ACRES, BUT I MEAN THE PROPERTY BY
02:07:06 THEM DOING THIS EXTENSION DOESN'T HURT NO ONE.
02:07:10 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
02:07:12 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:07:13 SECOND I BELIEVE FIRST BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:07:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:07:18 ANY OPPOSED?
02:07:25 OKAY.
02:07:27 NEXT WE MOVE TO STAFF REPORTS.
02:07:29 WE ARE UNDER NUMBER 80.
02:07:32 RESOLUTION.
02:07:33 >>JEAN DUNCAN: TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER SERVICES
02:07:42 DEPARTMENT HERE FOR ITEM 80 WHICH IS THE AWARDING OF A
02:07:45 STORMWATER CONTRACT THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT.
02:07:48 THIS IS A VERY LARGE CULVERT THAT WE WILL DRAINING OVER A
02:07:55 THOUSAND ACRES OF A BASIN BETWEEN 34th STREET AND
02:07:59 50th STREET, SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AREA.
02:08:02 SO AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO JBS, A CONTRACTOR THAT WAS THE
02:08:09 LOW BID AND HERE TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL FOR THAT CONTRACT.
02:08:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
02:08:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COMMENT.
02:08:15 THIS COMES TO COUNCIL OUT OF CONSENT BECAUSE IT'S $7
02:08:20 MILLION OF THE CONTRACT.
02:08:21 BUT SPECIFICALLY, JEAN, MS. DUNCAN, IF YOU COULD MAKE
02:08:25 REFERENCE FROM THE COVER PAGE TO THE MINORITY
02:08:29 PARTICIPATION AND YOUR DEDICATION TO ENFORCEMENT.
02:08:35 >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
02:08:36 WE ARE SHOWING THAT WE HAVE 16.8% OF MINORITY
02:08:40 PARTICIPATION COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT.
02:08:44 AND WE WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT IS THE CASE AS THE
02:08:48 PROJECT GETS UNDERWAY.
02:08:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:08:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
02:08:52 OKAY.
02:08:53 ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
02:08:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
02:08:57 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:08:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:09:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:09:02 ANY OPPOSED?
02:09:03 THANK YOU.
02:09:04 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 82.
02:09:08 >> KATHY BECK, NATURAL RESOURCES COORDINATE OAR.
02:09:20 MR. CALLAHAN IS PASSING OUT THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CURRENT
02:09:24 TREE MATRIX.
02:09:25 AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE TREE MATRIX WAS
02:09:28 CREATED IN 2013 AS PART OF THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT
02:09:32 PLAN.
02:09:32 AND THE REASON THAT THE MATRIX WAS CREATED WAS TO BE USED
02:09:36 AS A TOOL FOR PEOPLE TO PLANT THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT
02:09:40 PLACE.
02:09:40 THE MATRIX WAS IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF
02:09:45 FLORIDA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EXTENSION, AND NUMEROUS
02:09:48 INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL TREES ON THE
02:09:52 LIST WERE APPROPRIATE FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA.
02:09:54 THE RIGHT TREE RIGHT PLACE CONCEPT CONSIDERS PLANTING OF
02:09:59 TREES IN CONSIDERATION OF OVERHEAD UTILITIES, UNDERGROUND
02:10:03 UTILITIES, AND HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL SPACES THAT THE
02:10:07 TREE WILL BE PLANTED IN.
02:10:08 THE MATRIX WAS FORMALLY ADOPTED OR CODIFIED JULY -- NO,
02:10:14 JUNE 1st AS PART OF THE NEW TREE AND LANDSCAPE
02:10:18 ORDINANCE.
02:10:20 AND I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO MR. CALLAHAN.
02:10:25 WHERE ARE YOU, MR. CALLAHAN?
02:10:27 THERE YOU WITH R ARE.
02:10:28 TO HAVE ADDRESS THE REMAINING COMMENTS IN YOUR MOTION.
02:10:31 >> MIKE CALLAHAN.
02:10:33 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
02:10:35 COUNCIL, I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY FROM THE URBAN DESIGN
02:10:38 STANDPOINT SPECIFICALLY FOR DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE AS YOU MAY
02:10:43 OR MAY NOT KNOW, WE HAVE A FORM-BASED CODE FOR OUR CBD.
02:10:49 EACH STREET HAS ITS OWN ISSUES.
02:10:54 WE RATE EVERY STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN AS A, B OR C, A,
02:11:00 PRIORITY PEDESTRIAN STREET, B STREET A LITTLE LESS SO AND
02:11:03 A C STREET, SO TREES FIT ON THERE WITH DIFFERENT
02:11:08 SPACINGS.
02:11:09 WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS, EXISTING CONDITIONS,
02:11:12 UTILITIES UNDERNEATH, AND PERHAPS OVERHANGS UP TO.
02:11:18 SO I AM NOT 100% SURE OF YOUR QUESTION FOR URBAN DESIGN
02:11:25 IN THIS MATTER BURR I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
02:11:29 MIGHT COME UP.
02:11:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:11:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I RECALL BACK A COUPLE MEETINGS BACK
02:11:44 WHEN WE -- I THINK WE WERE ALL RECEIVING A LOT OF E-MAILS
02:11:49 ABOUT FROM CUTTING OF DOWNTOWN TREES.
02:11:54 WAS THAT JACKSON?
02:11:56 YES, JACKSON.
02:11:56 >> I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH MUCH THAT.
02:11:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOU GOT THE E-MAILS, TOO.
02:12:01 >> OH, YES.
02:12:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THERE'S A LOT OF CUTTING, AND IT
02:12:05 WAS EXPLAINED, I GUESS, IT WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A
02:12:07 DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT GOING ON ADJACENT TO THAT.
02:12:11 I THINK.
02:12:12 THAT WAS THE EXPLANATION.
02:12:14 YOU CAN CORRECT ME OR EITHER WAY, IF I AM RIGHT OR WRONG.
02:12:20 AND THEN THE FOLKS CAME IN AND SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO
02:12:25 MAKE SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE TREES WERE GOING TO BE --
02:12:29 SINCE WE LOST THOSE TREES THAT THE APPROPRIATE TREES WERE
02:12:31 GOING TO BE REPLACED, AND THEN THEY HAD CONCERNS THAT
02:12:35 SOME OF THE TREES THAT WERE GOING TO GO BACK IN THERE
02:12:38 WERE KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, PUNY OR INSIGNIFICANT OR WHAT
02:12:43 HAVE YOU AS COMPARED TO I GUESS THE OAKS THAT CAME OUT OF
02:12:46 THERE.
02:12:46 SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART.
02:12:48 THE SECOND PART, I WON'T SPEAK FOR MR. GUDES BUT I THINK
02:12:54 HE ADDED TO THE MOTION AS RELATED TO FOLKS IN HIS
02:12:56 COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO TRIM AND CUT TREES, AND
02:13:02 HOW COULD THEY DO THAT, AND WHO DO THEY CONTACT?
02:13:07 >> WHAT WAS HIS SPECIFIC QUESTION, COUNCILOR?
02:13:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS TREES ARE A HOT TOPIC BUT IN
02:13:19 PORTIONS OF MY DISTRICT THEY ARE NOT A HOT TOPIC.
02:13:21 THE TOPIC IS THEY ARE OVERGROWN, THEY ARE ALL IN THE
02:13:25 STREETS, TRUCKS CAN'T GET THROUGH, THEY ARE IN POWER
02:13:28 LINES AND IT LEADS TO BLIGHT AREAS IN MY DISTRICT, VERSUS
02:13:31 ANOTHER DISTRICT BEING THEY WANT THE CANOPY.
02:13:34 WE DON'T VERY MUCH THAT.
02:13:35 BUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING SOME OF THESE TREES ON
02:13:39 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND COMING INTO THE ROADWAY, THE POWER
02:13:43 LINES? HOW DOES MY DISTRICT RESOLVE SOME OF THOSE
02:13:46 ISSUES?
02:13:46 >> TAMPA ELECTRIC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRUNING THE TREES IN
02:13:52 AND AROUND THE POWER LINES.
02:13:53 WE HAVE GOT A STANDING FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS
02:13:56 THEM TO PRUNE THOSE WITHOUT PERMITS OR OVERSIGHT AS LONG
02:14:00 AS THEY FOLLOW ANSI STANDARDS.
02:14:03 AS FAR AS PRUNING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT'S THE
02:14:05 RESPONSIBILITY OF PARKS AND RECREATION, THE FORESTRY
02:14:08 DIVISION.
02:14:09 I CAN PROVIDE PHONE NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL AND PUT
02:14:12 IN WORK ORDERS.
02:14:13 I KNOW THEY HAVE GOT A PRETTY BIG BACKLOG, AND I CAN'T
02:14:18 SPEAK FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
02:14:19 THEY ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR PRUNING.
02:14:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO GOES OUT AND GOES IN THE STREETS
02:14:29 AND SEES WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE VERSUS JUST A PHONE CALL?
02:14:32 CERTAINLY MY COMMUNITY DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THESE PHONE
02:14:34 CALLS, OR THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THESE SERVICES ARE
02:14:38 PROVIDED.
02:14:38 SO TO ME WE ARE A CITY, AND WE HAVE A DIVISION.
02:14:42 I AM JUST LOOKING, HOW IS THE EVALUATION PROCESS DONE TO
02:14:48 GO DOWN THESE ROADS TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THESE?
02:14:50 >> I APOLOGIZE.
02:14:50 I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HOW PARKS AND RECREATION EVALUATES
02:14:53 THEIR WORK ORDER SYSTEM.
02:14:55 THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE FORESTRY
02:14:57 DIVISION.
02:14:58 I DO KNOW THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS COULD ALWAYS CONTACT THE
02:15:01 CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER.
02:15:03 I KNOW A LOT OF THINGS ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THAT, AND
02:15:06 RESPONDED TO WITHIN 72 HOURS, AT LEAST AN ANSWER ON HOW
02:15:10 TO GET THE TREES PRUNED OR HOW TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM.
02:15:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE WHEN THE STORMS
02:15:17 COME OR SOMETIMES HARD RAIN, AGAIN WE HAVE THESE TREES
02:15:20 THAT DIE, AND THEY FALL.
02:15:22 >> YES, SIR.
02:15:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I CAN SEE CERTAIN AREAS IN MY
02:15:28 DISTRICT WHERE TREES ARE SITTING HALFWAY ON THE OWNER'S
02:15:31 PROPERTY AND THE CITY'S PROPERTY.
02:15:32 AND NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN THE OWNER IN CERTAIN PORTIONS
02:15:35 OF MY DISTRICT CAN'T AFFORD TO GET THESE BIG TREES
02:15:38 REMOVED.
02:15:39 HOW DO WE HELP CITIZENS WITH THAT PROCESS?
02:15:43 I HEAR ABOUT THE TREE CODES AND ALL THIS STUFF.
02:15:46 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE REALLY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION
02:15:50 OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE, THE SERVICES
02:15:55 HOW THINGS ARE DONE.
02:15:56 IS THERE SOME KIND OF AVENUE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CALL TO
02:16:00 HELP MY COMMUNITY GET CLEANED UP?
02:16:02 BECAUSE I SEE TREES ALL THE TIME THAT ARE HALFWAY ON THE
02:16:07 PROPERTY AND HALFWAY ON THE PUBLIC PROPERTY.
02:16:10 >> IF THEY ARE PARTIALLY ON PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
02:16:12 PROPERTY AND PARTIALLY ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, PARKS AND
02:16:15 RECREATION, MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THEY WILL TAKE
02:16:18 RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TREE IF YOU CONTACT THEM.
02:16:19 AGAIN I HESITATE TO --
02:16:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TECO'S RESPONSIBILITY.
02:16:25 I HAD A CLEAN-UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I CAN SEE
02:16:31 FROM THE LINE, AND WE MADE SOME CALLS, AND TECO -- IT'S
02:16:40 GONE ON TWO WEEKS, SO HOW DO WE GET SOME CONSISTENCY?
02:16:43 IS IT BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY, OR -- I'M JUST
02:16:46 TRYING TO FIGURE A WAY TO HELP THE CONSTITUENTS N MY
02:16:50 DISTRICT.
02:16:50 >> I THINK IN THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS THE TREES ARE
02:16:53 TOUCHING ON -- CATCHING ON FIRE OR ARCING ON THE LINES
02:16:57 THAT TAMPA NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
02:16:59 AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR TAMPA ELECTRIC BUT I CAN
02:17:01 CERTAINLY PROVIDE THE CONTACT PEOPLE TO CALL TO GET THIS
02:17:06 OR THEY CAN CONTACT ME AND I CAN REACH OUT TO TAMPA
02:17:08 ELECTRIC TO TRY TO ASSIST WITH GETTING SERVICE.
02:17:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO THEY CONTACT TECO OR --
02:17:18 >> THEY OPERATE UNDER A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND THEY
02:17:22 CONTRACT THEIR OWN TREE SERVICE.
02:17:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
02:17:29 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:17:30 I SAT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
02:17:34 YOUR DEPARTMENT OR PARKS AND RECREATION, A YEAR OR SO AGO
02:17:38 OF THE STUDY OF THE TREE CANOPY.
02:17:41 THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
02:17:42 THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT AND THE AWARDS THAT TAMPA
02:17:45 HAS GOTTEN FOR ITS TREE CANOPY.
02:17:47 I USED TO LIVE IN SINGAPORE, AND AT THE TIME I HAD JUST
02:17:51 GOTTEN BACK.
02:17:52 SINGAPORE HAD A VERY SPECIFIC PLAN FOR CREATING TREE
02:17:55 CANOPY AND TRYING TO REDUCE THE TEMPERATURE BECAUSE IT'S
02:17:59 HOT LIKE HERE YEAR ROUND.
02:18:02 DO YOU KNOW, CONTAINED OF TO WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS
02:18:08 SAYING, IS THERE A PLAN FOR PLACES WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
02:18:11 TREES OR IS THERE A SPECIFIC PLAN TO TRY TO CREATE A
02:18:14 CANOPY? THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
02:18:16 BUT ARE THERE PLANS FOR WHAT WE WANT THE CITY VISUALLY TO
02:18:21 LOOK LIKE WITH TREES?
02:18:22 >> THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS THE 20 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR
02:18:26 URBAN FOREST AND MANAGEMENT.
02:18:28 IN THE CITY.
02:18:28 IT DOESN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO PLANTING SPACES.
02:18:31 IT SPEAKS MORE TO PROVIDING DIVERSITY, MAINTENANCE,
02:18:36 SUSTAINABILITY, AND PLANTING AREAS.
02:18:38 BUT, NO, THERE'S NO PARTICULAR PLAN THAT MIGHT COME FROM
02:18:42 PARKS AND RECREATION FOR HIGHWAY BEAUTIFICATION AREAS,
02:18:46 PARKS, THAT TYPE OF THING.
02:18:50 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK TO THE
02:18:52 SUSTAINABILITY PERSON.
02:18:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:18:54 >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
02:18:56 >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU
02:19:10 ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON 83.
02:19:12 AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT H.PUBLIC COMMENT WAS IN
02:19:14 THE BEGINNING, AND --
02:19:20 >>> LAST NIGHT THE MAYOR AND I HAD A COMMITTEE MEETING
02:19:22 WITH THE ANGUS GOSS MEMORIAL POOL COMMITTEE AND THE
02:19:28 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
02:19:29 ONE WAS THERE LAST NIGHT.
02:19:34 THE MAYOR WENT OVER THE NUMBERS FOR THE POOL, AN ESTIMATE
02:19:38 FOR A BRAND NEW PAL, NOT A RENOVATION, FROM SCRATCH,
02:19:41 ABOUT $4 MILLION.
02:19:43 MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT, AND SOME OF THE OLDER
02:19:46 ESTIMATES.
02:19:47 BUT THIS MUCH WOULD BE LOOKING AT MAKING IT
02:19:50 STATE-OF-THE-ART, ADA COMPLIANT, WHAT THIS POOL IS NOT.
02:19:53 IT WAS BUILT BACK FROM I BELIEVE 1962.
02:19:56 IN THIS BUDGET THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, THERE'S CITIZEN 100
02:19:59 THAT YOU FOR A STUDY.
02:20:00 AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AVENUES FOR
02:20:03 FUNDING, WHETHER IT'S GRANTS, FEDERAL, BEYOND, WHAT THE
02:20:07 CITY HAS IN THE BUDGET.
02:20:08 I HAD MY OWN IDEAS I DON'T WANT TO PURSUE WITHOUT GETTING
02:20:11 SOME FOUNDATION BUT THAT WAS AN OVERVIEW.
02:20:13 THE MAYOR WAS OUT THEREBY ANSWERING QUESTIONS, MEETING
02:20:15 WITH PEOPLE AND GIVING A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT THIS POOL IS
02:20:19 ABOUT.
02:20:19 SO THAT WAS IT.
02:20:25 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:20:26 >> DOES THAT INCLUDE THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS OR JUST THE
02:20:29 POOL ITSELF?
02:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST THE STRUCTURE.
02:20:33 AND THE ACREAGE, I RECEIVED A MESSAGE EARLIER, AND IT IS
02:20:38 1.14 ACRES, THE ANGUS GOSS FOR THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.
02:20:44 BECAUSE FOLKS WERE ASKING WHAT IF THERE WAS A COMMUNITY
02:20:46 CENTER ATTACHED TO IT, OTHER DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
02:20:50 BUT BECAUSE THE POOL WAS FILLED IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE
02:20:58 ACTUAL SWIMMING AREA, HOW STABLE IT IS, THAT'S ONE
02:21:00 QUESTION.
02:21:01 THE BATHROOMS, ANY ADA ACCESS IS NONEXISTENT.
02:21:07 ALSO, STAFFING THE PAL.
02:21:09 I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS WERE AROUND 350 TO $400,000 A YEAR.
02:21:18 BUT THAT WAS IT.
02:21:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] I APPRECIATE THE WORK
02:21:37 THAT WAS BUTT IN.
02:21:40 ABOUT 100 FEET FROM WHERE WE SIT.
02:21:42 BUT THAT PERSON IS NOT HERE TO CHAT WITH US ABOUT IT.
02:21:47 SO HERE WE SIT AND WE ASK EACH OTHER QUESTIONS WHICH IS
02:21:53 REALLY KIND OF WEIRD.
02:21:54 WE ARE LUCKY IN THIS CASE BECAUSE WE HAD MR. MANISCALCO
02:21:58 HAS BEEN DIGGING INTO THIS.
02:21:59 BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
02:22:06 PAUL MAKES REFERENCE TO THE U.S. STANDARD INFORM POOLS
02:22:12 FOR X NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
02:22:14 THAT'S THE U.S. PARKS AND REC STANDARD.
02:22:17 I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME BUT IT'S LIKE 60,000 OR SOMETHING
02:22:21 LIKE THAT, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF FLORIDA HAS STANDARD.
02:22:25 BECAUSE FLORIDA IS A DIFFERENT PLACE.
02:22:27 AND MAYBE WE NEED MORE POOLS THAN NEBRASKA OR SOMETHING
02:22:29 LIKE THAT.
02:22:31 SO, ANYWAY, I HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT.
02:22:35 WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO CARRY THIS ITEM OVER FOR
02:22:38 A MONTH OR SO.
02:22:41 THERE'S NOTHING URGENT ON IT.
02:22:43 BUT JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A WARM BODY HERE FROM THE
02:22:46 ADMINISTRATION TO ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS.
02:22:48 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
02:22:50 AND WE'LL TAKE IT AT THE END OF THE ACTION.
02:23:01 >>BILL CARLSON: AND SORRY TO BE BRING UP SINGAPORE AGAIN
02:23:03 BUT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT THERE IS
02:23:07 ALL THE COMMUNITY CENTERS HAVE TO BE SURPLUS OR -- I
02:23:13 HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT SITE MYSELF, BUT JUST WONDERING IF
02:23:16 ANY ANALYSIS STAFF COULD LOOK AT.
02:23:18 IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE SPACE THAT COULD BE LEASED OUT
02:23:23 AND/OR PURCHASED BY SOMEBODY SO THAT IT COULD -- THE
02:23:28 PRIVATE SECTOR COULD HELP SUBSIDIZE IT?
02:23:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
02:23:35 AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT UP THE STREET IS THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
02:23:39 GARDEN CENTER.
02:23:44 NO ONE USED THAT, A WEDDING VENUE, A MONEY GENERATOR.
02:23:50 IF -- WHAT THEY CALL THE RIVER HOUSE, PEOPLE RUN IT AND
02:23:55 IT'S SOMETHING LIKE $3 THAT YOU.
02:24:02 BUT IT DOES BRING IN REVENUE.
02:24:04 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COSTS TO OPERATE IT, LIFEGUARDS AND
02:24:08 WHATNOT AND STAFF, IF WE DO LOOK AT AVENUES TO GENERATE
02:24:14 MONEYS, SUCH AS BUILDING A SECOND FLOOR TO IT, AN EVENT,
02:24:20 WEDDING, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT WOULD MAKE TOTAL SENSE.
02:24:24 >>LUIS VIERA: IT DOES.
02:24:26 AND FOR ME IF I MAY, THE BIGGEST I SHALL UP WITHOUT
02:24:29 OPINING SPECIFICALLY ON THE POOL, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY
02:24:34 DESIRE, AND OBVIOUSLY I RECOGNIZE THAT 110%, WHICH IS
02:24:38 THAT ALL COMMUNITIES I THINK ARE SORT OF HAVING SIMILAR
02:24:43 SENTIMENTS WHICH IS RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN WHAT APPEARS TO
02:24:44 BE A GOOD ECONOMY.
02:24:46 WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE STORMS AHEAD, AND, YOU
02:24:51 KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO INVEST FROM OUR
02:24:53 NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:24:54 IT'S A TIME TO INVEST IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN IN
02:24:58 PARTLY DUE TO RECOVERY FROM A RECESSION NEGLECTED,
02:25:00 SOMETHING THAT WE BEGAN TO DO IN 2017, WE CONTINUE TO DO
02:25:04 IN 2018, AND I HOPE THAT WE DO IN 2019 AND WE WILL BE
02:25:09 TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING
02:25:11 I WANT TO SEE IN 2017 I VOTED FOR A BUDGET THAT IN PART
02:25:15 RAISED TAXES.
02:25:16 A LOT OF PEOPLE IT DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUT I
02:25:18 DID IT.
02:25:19 BUT ONE OF THE REASONS I DID IT IS BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE
02:25:22 A BALANCE BETWEEN FISCAL MANAGEMENT AND FISCAL RESTRAINT
02:25:26 AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT COMMUNITIES ARE TAKEN CARE OF
02:25:30 IN THE FUTURE AND THAT WE CAN DO BOTH THINGS.
02:25:32 I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO THE SEE THAT.
02:25:33 I KNOW THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET IN THE FUTURE
02:25:36 BUT JUST MY 2,001 CENTS.
02:25:38 MA'AM, YOU HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT.
02:25:44 FOUR MINUTES IS GOOD?
02:25:45 >> YES.
02:25:50 I KNOW THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM,
02:25:54 TALKING POINT TO GO OVER THE INFORMATION.
02:25:59 WE HAD SPOKEN WITH MAYOR JANE CASTOR YESTERDAY IN AN
02:26:03 INFORMAL MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENTS OF ALL THE CIVIC
02:26:06 ASSOCIATIONS, AND WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE PRICE TAG WAS
02:26:10 APPROXIMATELY $3.7 MILLION.
02:26:12 AND I GUESS I'M HERE TO BASICALLY EXPRESS, EVEN IF IT IS
02:26:16 AT 3.7, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MR. CARLSON WAS
02:26:22 SAYING, IF WE ARE AT THAT PRICE TAG, I REALLY WOULD LIKE
02:26:24 TO STRESS MAYBE MAKING IT A DRIVEN AMENITY, MAYBE DOING A
02:26:33 PARTNERSHIP WITH USF.
02:26:35 BASICALLY ABLE TO MAYBE MAKE IT TWO STORIES, HAVING THE
02:26:38 ABILITY TO HAVE EVENTS THERE, HAVING THE ABILITY TO MAKE
02:26:41 IT PAY ITSELF BACK.
02:26:43 I KNOW 3.7 MILLION IS A LOT.
02:26:45 WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO GET APPROVED NOW.
02:26:47 BUT THAT POOL SERVICED THE COMMUNITY FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS
02:26:53 AND THAT 3.7 MILLION IN 360 YEARS, I KNOW THE PRICE TAG
02:27:00 IS HEAVY NOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT POOL DID FOR THAT
02:27:02 COMMUNITY.
02:27:03 I KNOW THE AMOUNT OF 3,395,000, 350 THAT YOU FOR THE
02:27:09 RUNNING OF THE POOL, SO I BASICALLY AM JUST TRYING TO
02:27:14 SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
02:27:18 VITAL ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO NOT LOOK PAST WHAT IT
02:27:21 NEEDS TO MEMORIALIZE, TO KEEP THE MEMORIAL OF THE
02:27:24 HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL ALUMNAE, WHAT IT DOES FOR THE
02:27:27 HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THEM NOT
02:27:30 HAVING TO COMMUTE TO COPELAND, WHAT WE CAN POSSIBLY DO AS
02:27:33 FAR AS WE ARE THE LARGEST DISTRICT, THIRD LARGEST
02:27:36 DISTRICT IN FLORIDA, AND WE HAVE NO OLYMPIC SIZE SWIMMING
02:27:40 POOL.
02:27:41 SO THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THERE WHERE WE CAN
02:27:43 INVITE AND HAVE MEETS.
02:27:45 WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS POOL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE
02:27:48 ARE CONSIDERING PARTNERSHIPS.
02:27:50 I KNOW WE HAVE 100,000 TO HAVE A STUDY DONE, BUT USF SAID
02:27:55 THEY COULD PROBABLY DO IT FOR CHEAPER.
02:27:57 SO LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES THAT CAN DO THINGS, AND
02:28:02 ALSO GRANTS.
02:28:03 SO I AM JUST SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY.
02:28:05 I KNOW THIS ISN'T AN OVERNIGHT THING IN OUR BUDGET.
02:28:10 I CAN UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE A FIGHT FOR THE NEXT
02:28:12 YEARS, BUT I AM HERE TO EXPRESS OUR STRENGTH AND OUR
02:28:15 ABILITY TO WANT TO DO THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
02:28:18 I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA ESPECIALLY IN OUR URBAN
02:28:21 AREAS, SUBURBAN AREAS, HAVE SEEN THE DOWNTOWN EXPLODE.
02:28:25 AND THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR STREETS, THEY ARE
02:28:28 GETTING PAVED.
02:28:29 WHEN YOU COME UP TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, IT ALMOST SEEMS
02:28:30 LIKE WE ARE KIND OF LEFT IN THE DUST.
02:28:33 OUR STREET THERE FOR SIX YEARS, NEVER REPAVED.
02:28:37 I WALKED OUT THE DOOR.
02:28:38 I HAD TWINS.
02:28:38 I HAD TO WALK ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THERE'S NO
02:28:41 SIDEWALKS.
02:28:42 BUT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE IS THAT THE DOWNTOWN,
02:28:46 CHANNELSIDE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, REVITALIZED.
02:28:50 AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE AREAS WHERE WE CAN NOW BE
02:28:52 REVITALIZED, SPECIFIC AMENITIES, AND IT'S JUST A SLAP IN
02:28:59 THE FACE, OH, YOU CAN GO 1.2 MAILS ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE
02:29:03 TALKING ABOUT TRANSACTION, AND SAY LET'S GET CARS OFF THE
02:29:06 ROAD.
02:29:07 THAT STARTS WITH BUILDING CIVIC AMENITIES WITHIN
02:29:12 MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN OUR WALKING AND BIKING DISTANCE.
02:29:15 YOU GUYS HAVE MET WITH ME.
02:29:17 YOU GUYS ARE WONDERFUL.
02:29:19 THERE'S TRANSPARENCY.
02:29:21 AND I AM DONE.
02:29:21 I AM GLAD WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S WILLING TO
02:29:24 WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
02:29:25 THANK YOU.
02:29:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR.
02:29:30 YES, I HAVE HAD SOME MEETINGS WITH YOU AND REFS
02:29:33 REPRESENTS FROM THE GOSS POOL.
02:29:34 BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE MUST REMEMBER, THERE ARE TWO
02:29:37 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE MEMORIALIZED, GOSS AND LOPEZ.
02:29:42 WHO ARE NATIONAL HEROES.
02:29:45 WE GAVE THEM POOLS.
02:29:46 WE GAVE THEM PARKS.
02:29:48 WE NEED TO BE MAINTAIN THE STATUS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN
02:29:52 THEM.
02:29:53 JUST BY NOT REVISITING THIS, NOT BY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT
02:29:58 THESE POOLS, L.
02:30:03 SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND.
02:30:05 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN
02:30:08 CITRO, FOR MENTIONING LOPEZ.
02:30:13 ON THE NEWSPAPER.COM SITE ACTUALLY FOUND THE HOUSE WHERE
02:30:17 HIS PARENTS LIVED WHERE HE WAS KILLED IN 1950.
02:30:20 IT'S STILL THERE, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.
02:30:23 YEAH.
02:30:24 IT'S REALLY -- BUT I THINK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN
02:30:32 GUDES.
02:30:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS VERY QUIET LAST NIGHT, THE
02:30:34 MAYOR SPOKE AND WHATNOT.
02:30:37 LOOKING AT ALL AVENUES, TO RAISE MONEY FOR THIS POOL, YOU
02:30:40 KNOW, AND GETTING MONEY IN THE BUDGET AND WHATNOT.
02:30:46 AND I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR IT.
02:30:48 BUT $30 MILLION FOR JULIAN LANE PARK, AND DOWNTOWN
02:30:54 GETTING A LOT.
02:30:55 AND DESERVEDLY SO.
02:30:56 BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AMERICAN HERO HERE.
02:30:59 ANGUS GOSS NOMINATED FOR THE MEDAL OF HONOR.
02:31:04 LOPEZ, HE DID RECEIVE THE MEDAL OF HONOR.
02:31:06 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, MAYBE CHAIRMAN VIERA WOULD BE ABLE
02:31:11 TO ANSWER THIS, BUT WHY NOT -- THERE'S LIEUTENANT BAM-BAM
02:31:20 WHO PUTS ON THESE CONCERTS, WOUNDED WARRIORS, AND I WANT
02:31:24 TO SAY, LOOK, HERE IS SOMEONE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN
02:31:28 WORLD WAR II, BURIED OVERSEAS, NEVER MADE IT BACK TO THE
02:31:32 UNITED STATES.
02:31:33 PERHAPS WE COULD PARTNER WITH THEM.
02:31:34 THAT'S A BIG NAME, A LARGER SCALE, BUT DO WHATEVER WE CAN
02:31:38 BEYOND THE CITY AND WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE, BEYOND WHAT
02:31:42 GRANTS WE CAN GET, BUT DO IT PRIVATELY LIKE THIS H.AND
02:31:46 THIS IS JUST ME THINKING OUT OF THE BOX.
02:31:49 BUT LET'S SAY HE AGREES TO COME DOWN AND RAISE MONEY FOR
02:31:52 THIS SWIMMING POOL AND DOES SOMETHING IN SULPHUR SPRINGS,
02:31:56 YOU KNOW, BY THE WATER TOWER, GREAT VENUE AND WHATNOT.
02:31:59 BUT SOMEONE WHO IS RECOGNIZED AND KNOWN FOR GIVING BACK
02:32:02 AND RAISING SO MUCH MONEY AND WHATNOT.
02:32:04 THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING AT.
02:32:05 ANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO OFFSET COST TO THE TAXPAYERS,
02:32:10 RAISE THE MONEY PRIVATELY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A LOT.
02:32:13 ALMOST 3.7 MILLION.
02:32:14 YOU KNOW, THERE'S PRIVATE DONORS AND PEOPLE THAT WANT
02:32:18 TO -- I KNOW MENT IN 1970s WITH THE RIVERWALK, WHEN IT
02:32:22 BEGAN, UNDER MAYOR POE, THE PLAQUE IS THERE RIGHT OUTSIDE
02:32:27 OF CURTIS HIXON, THE NAMES OF SO MANY PEOPLE.
02:32:32 I WANT TO THE SAY SOLD PAVERS OR SOMETHING.
02:32:36 BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO RAISE MONEY TO START
02:32:38 THAT PROJECT.
02:32:39 BUT I THINK WE CAN DO IT BEYOND JUST LOOKING AT, OH, HERE
02:32:43 IS THE BUDGET, THIS YEAR WE ALLOCATED THIS.
02:32:45 WE AREN'T GOING TO GET ANOTHER BP SETTLEMENT.
02:32:48 I KNOW WE USED A LOT OF THAT FOR JULIAN LANE.
02:32:50 WE WON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF WINDFALL.
02:32:52 BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY.
02:32:55 3.7 MILLION APPEARS TO BE OVERWHELMING BUT I THINK IF WE
02:32:58 LOOK AT ALL DIFFERENT SOURCES, WE CHIP AWAY A LITTLE HERE
02:33:02 AND THERE, WE CAN GET THROUGH IT AND GET THIS DONE.
02:33:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] AND YOU HAVE GOT A
02:33:13 BUDGET.
02:33:15 AND YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH OF CERTAIN AREAS IN THE CITY
02:33:20 THAT BENEFIT.
02:33:21 SO FOR ME, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT HAVING TO FIND
02:33:26 GRANTS AND HAVING TO DO THIS AND DO THAT.
02:33:28 WE HAVE A BUDGET.
02:33:30 AND WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED, LIKE THE CHAIRMAN SAID, ON
02:33:33 NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE WE HAVE THE MONEY.
02:33:35 NOW, RIGHT NOW WHILE WE HAVE DOLLARS, WE SHOULD BE MERELY
02:33:44 FOCUSED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY UNDERSERVED
02:33:46 NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:33:47 WE KNOW WHERE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE.
02:33:49 AND THAT SHOULD BE A CONCENTRATED EFFORT RIGHT NOW.
02:33:53 MY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THINGS FOR YEARS, AND
02:33:55 NOW WE HAVE MONEY RIGHT NOW THAT WE WANT TO SHIFT TO
02:34:01 OTHER PLACES. I HAVE A GRAVE CONCERN, I HAVE A PROBLEM.
02:34:03 AND MY PEOPLE, THEY ARE VERY ANGRY.
02:34:06 WE HAVE ASKED FOR A CENTER.
02:34:07 WE HAVE ASKED FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
02:34:10 WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN.
02:34:12 SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT LOOKING FOR GRANTS, LOOKING AT OTHER
02:34:16 ITEMS, WE HAVE A BUDGET.
02:34:17 AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT CAREFULLY BECAUSE UP KNOW WHAT
02:34:20 OUR COMMITMENTS WERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
02:34:22 I COULD GO TO ANY CAMPAIGN EVENT, AND THE FIRST THING ALL
02:34:28 TALK ABOUT, WE KNOW EAST TAMPA IS THE FOCAL POINT.
02:34:32 WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET, I DON'T SEE THE FOCAL POINT.
02:34:36 I NEED A FOCAL POINT.
02:34:37 I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU SO YOU DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT.
02:34:40 I AM NOT GIVING UP THE FIGHT BECAUSE THERE IS MONEY.
02:34:42 AND I'M SORRY ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS.
02:34:44 BUT WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT IS NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:34:46 I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:34:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
02:34:51 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:34:55 >>BILL CARLSON: THREE QUICK THINGS. ONE IS I FEEL LIKE I
02:34:58 AM CONSTANTLY APOLOGIZING TO PEOPLE FOR THE LAST EIGHT
02:35:00 YEARS, BUT THE RUMOR IS THAT THE DIRT WAS PUT IN THERE IN
02:35:05 RETRIBUTION AGAINST THE ACTIVISTS FOR ASKING FOR THIS.
02:35:09 AND IF THAT'S TRUE IT'S DESPICABLE AND I AM PERSONALLY
02:35:13 APOLOGIZE IF THAT HAPPENED.
02:35:14 NUMBER TWO, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CRAs AND
02:35:17 SOME OF THEM HAVE LOTS OF MONEY AND DON'T HAVE BLIGHT AND
02:35:22 SLUMS.
02:35:22 AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOME FOLKS DON'T WANT TO SHUT THEM
02:35:25 DOWN, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONSENSUS TO PUT A CAP
02:35:29 ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE LEAVE IN THERE.
02:35:31 SO AT SOME POINT IN IF WE MOVE SOME OF THE MONEY BACK
02:35:35 INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WE WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY TO SPEND
02:35:37 IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED IT.
02:35:39 AND THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
02:35:41 NUMBER THREE IS THAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE MAYOR AND
02:35:44 STAFF AND OTHERS ABOUT USING SOME OF THE SIDEWALK MONEY
02:35:46 FOR TRANSPORTATION TO DO PLANNING IN NEIGHBORHOOD
02:35:53 COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, OR CREATING DOWNTOWN CENTERS, OR
02:35:56 I'M SORRY, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS FOR DIFFERENT AREAS, A
02:36:01 COUPLE AREAS IN EAST TAMPA THAT THIS WOULD BE AN AREA
02:36:03 POTENTIALLY IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, BUT IF WE HAD SOME
02:36:06 PLANNING MONEY BESIDES THE $100 THAT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS
02:36:10 PROJECT SPECIFICALLY -- 100,000 SPECIFICALLY, I THINK
02:36:14 THIS WOULD CREATE A WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN-FRIEND REPLY
02:36:17 COMMUNITY.
02:36:18 AND IF WE USE THE SIDEWALK MONEY TO DO A BROADER PLAN AND
02:36:20 VISION FOR THE AREA, THEN IT WOULD BE MORE OBVIOUS HOW
02:36:23 THIS POOL FITS IN.
02:36:24 RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE MIGHT BE ALIGNED BASED ON WHETHER THEY
02:36:28 THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SWIM IN THE POOL OR NOT.
02:36:30 BUT IF WE LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY IN HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:36:34 INTEGRATES AND NOT JUST LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF
02:36:37 THE MONEY COMING IN TO WHATEVER IS ON THAT PROPERTY BUT
02:36:40 IF WE TURN IT INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, THEN IT COULD
02:36:43 BE -- WE COULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER, MORE ACTIVE AREA THAN
02:36:48 WE DO NOW.
02:36:52 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:36:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:36:55 GREAT COMMENTS, MR. CITRO.
02:37:01 I ESPECIALLY LIKED YOUR COMMENT IN REGARD WHO THESE FOLKS
02:37:07 WERE, HEROES.
02:37:09 WE TALKED ABOUT HEROES ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THIS MORNING,
02:37:14 BUT THE HEROISM OF THESE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT YOU READ
02:37:18 ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AND GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR OUR NATION
02:37:24 AND RECEIVED THE MEDALS OF HONOR, I THINK BOTH OF THEM.
02:37:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST ONE.
02:37:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK AWESOME FOLKS. ANYWAY, I JUST
02:37:36 WANDERED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, EVEN THOUGH THIS SOUNDS
02:37:39 LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, $7 MILLION, AND IT IS, OUT OF OUR
02:37:44 CAPITAL BUDGET, AND THEN THERE'S ONGOING IN TERMS MUCH
02:37:48 OPERATING EXPENSES.
02:37:49 I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS CITY, THIS COUNCIL,
02:37:52 HAS SPENT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.
02:37:54 I AM GOING TO GET THAT NUMBER BEFORE WE MEET ON THIS
02:37:57 ISSUE AGAIN.
02:37:59 RENOVATING, TOTALLY RENOVATING, BASICALLY REBUILDING THE
02:38:02 DAVIS ISLAND POOL, THE CUSCADEN POOL, I THINK THE
02:38:06 WILLIAMS POOL, AND MAYBE THE GREEN POOL.
02:38:09 WE HAVE DISCUSSED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
02:38:11 WE CONCLUDED THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THOSE
02:38:14 COMMUNITIES.
02:38:15 THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THESE TWO COMMUNITIES.
02:38:18 AND I KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT OVERNIGHT.
02:38:21 THIS MAYOR JUST GOT ELECTED.
02:38:22 MANY OF US JUST GOT ELECTED.
02:38:24 WE CAN'T DO IT OVERNIGHT AND COME IN. THREE MONTHS AFTER
02:38:27 WE GET ELECTED AND SAY, OH, $7 MILLION.
02:38:30 THAT'S NOT REALISTIC AND I'M NOT SURE --
02:38:33 >> I THINK IT'S 3.7.
02:38:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TIMES 2.
02:38:37 >> OH, YES, SIR.
02:38:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS REALLY FOR NEXT
02:38:47 YEAR'S BUDGET.
02:38:47 SO ASSUMING THE ECONOMY IS GOOD, OUR BUDGET STAYS GOOD,
02:38:52 LET'S WORK HARD NEXT YEAR AND REALLY MAKE IT PART OF NEXT
02:38:57 YEAR'S BUDGET.
02:38:58 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE EMS?
02:38:59 AND SIR, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT AS WELL?
02:39:02 I DON'T MIND.
02:39:03 COME ON.
02:39:04 WE WILL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
02:39:10 WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES.
02:39:11 >> EVERY SATURDAY I GO UP TO THE POOL -- THE PARK, RIGHT
02:39:18 NOW, AND HAVE A SIGN THAT AND HOPE THE OTHER
02:39:23 DEMONSTRATORS COME OUT AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT ALSO.
02:39:27 BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY HAS TAKEN MORE INTEREST IN
02:39:30 MAINTAINING IT, VARIOUS AREAS, I DON'T KNOW.
02:39:36 DID THAT COME UP?
02:39:41 BEING BEAUTIFIED.
02:39:42 BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF IS NEGLECTED.
02:39:46 IT'S A DUMPING SITE.
02:39:49 AND I GO INTO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. THIS
02:39:55 THING IS JUST BEGGING FOR A MURAL TO BEAUTIFY IT AS WELL
02:39:59 AS THE GROUNDS THEMSELVES.
02:40:04 I WENT OUT AND VOLUNTEERED AT THE AMERICAN LEGION AND
02:40:08 HOME DEPOT, I DON'T KNOW HOME THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN
02:40:12 TERMS TO BEAUTIFY IT.
02:40:13 SO THERE ARE SPONSORS OUT THERE THAT WOULD HELP TO
02:40:16 BEAUTIFY THIS MORE THAN WHAT IT IS.
02:40:18 BUT I THINK IT'S GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
02:40:21 BUT $100 THAT YOU TO STUDY, I MEAN, THINK WHAT $35,000 TO
02:40:27 DO WITH JUST PLANTS TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER.
02:40:30 SO PERHAPS MAYBE THERE IS SOME MONEY, OR MAYBE THE PARKS
02:40:36 DEPARTMENT COULD BEAUTIFY IT MORE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
02:40:42 AND I'M THINKING OF MYSELF AS AN ARTIST.
02:40:48 I COULD PAINT IT.
02:40:49 BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE BETTER PEOPLE THAT COULD MAKE IT
02:40:52 MORE BEAUTIFUL.
02:40:53 I THANK YOU.
02:40:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:40:56 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
02:40:57 AND JUST A COUPLE OF -- I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE WHO HAVE
02:41:03 NEVER GONE TO VETERANS PARK OFF OF 301, THERE'S A REALLY
02:41:06 NICE MEMORIAL THERE, TOO.
02:41:08 AND DO UP KNOW WHAT A CREDIT, YOU GOT A BIG MEMORIAL OUT
02:41:12 THERE AS BEING THE LEADING FORCE IN BUILDING THAT
02:41:14 MEMORIAL OUT THERE, AND MAYBE JIM BOTHA WHO IS THE
02:41:18 GRANDFATHER OF JOEY RUTH, MY INTERN, JUST FINISHED
02:41:21 YESTERDAY, IN FACT.
02:41:22 SO HE WAS A GREAT GUY.
02:41:24 AND ONE THING I NOTICE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET,
02:41:29 TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.
02:41:32 I'M A GLASS HALF FULL KIND OF GUY, IF YOU WILL, WHICH THE
02:41:36 MONEY IS IN THERE FOR THE STUDY.
02:41:38 THAT'S THE GENESIS OF IT.
02:41:40 THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF IT.
02:41:41 AT LEAST MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN GET CONSTRUCTION MONEY
02:41:44 YEAR ONE, YOU HAVE TO FIRST DO THE STUDY, SEA HOW IT'S
02:41:46 GOING TO BE DONE.
02:41:47 SO IF I MAY SAY SO, THAT'S SOMETHING OF A VICTORY.
02:41:51 I THINK IN MY OPINION.
02:41:53 BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE
02:41:55 THAT WE FOCUS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:41:57 I KNOW NEXT WEEK WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKSHOP ON
02:42:01 BUSCH BOULEVARD, I'M LACK FORWARD TO DOING THAT, AND
02:42:04 ASKING FOLKS REPRESENTING, AND TALK ABOUT THE CRISIS ON
02:42:07 BUSCH BOULEVARD.
02:42:09 OKAY, GREATS.
02:42:10 WHAT'S THE BUDGET IN RESPONSE TO THE CRISIS?
02:42:12 IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE HAVE PARKS AND REC COMING.
02:42:15 AND I'M SURE NOT BY REPORT, GOING TO BE IN PERSON, WE ARE
02:42:20 GOING TO MAKE DARN SURE, ON THE ISSUE OF OUR PARKS AND
02:42:23 PLAYGROUNDS.
02:42:24 AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE ALL ACCESSIBLE TO CHILDREN
02:42:28 WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, DEVELOPMENTAL NEEDS, PHYSICAL NEEDS,
02:42:33 ET CETERA.
02:42:33 I'M SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF A LARGER
02:42:35 CONVERSATION THAT AFFECTS ALL OF OUR CITY, AND WILL
02:42:38 CERTAINLY PLAY PART OF IT.
02:42:40 SO THANK YOU.
02:42:41 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM -- AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU
02:42:45 HAD A MOTION ABOUT MOVING IT?
02:42:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:42:48 I THINK I KNOW I HAD A FEW MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. DIAL.
02:42:52 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS ITEM FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION
02:42:57 A MONTH FROM NOW.
02:42:59 MR. SHELBY?
02:43:04 SEPTEMBER 19th?
02:43:06 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:43:07 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:43:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:43:12 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO NUMBER 84.
02:43:18 OH, THIS IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED, RIGHT?
02:43:21 OKAY.
02:43:21 HAVE WE DONE A MOTION ON THAT YET?
02:43:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, YOU HAVE NOT.
02:43:28 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
02:43:29 ITEM 84.
02:43:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER 26th?
02:43:34 THE WORKSHOP?
02:43:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO MOVE
02:43:38 TO OUR WATER WORKSHOP, WHICH IS I THINK NEXT WEEK, THE
02:43:50 29th?
02:43:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE MOTION MADE REFERENCE TO
02:43:53 THE FACT THAT ON THE 25th YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP
02:43:57 REGARDING THE STAFF REPORT ON THE WORKSHOP DAY.
02:44:03 WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, IMPACT FEES AND OTHER OPTIONS THAT
02:44:07 WILL ENSURE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF
02:44:12 WATER AND WASTEWATER.
02:44:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
02:44:15 AND THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP, THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY,
02:44:17 IT'S RELATED TO THIS ENTIRE ISSUE OF PIPES, ET CETERA,
02:44:24 ET CETERA.
02:44:25 SO TO BE BETTER INFORMED, I WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION
02:44:29 TO NEXT WEEK AT OUR WATER DISCUSSION.
02:44:36 SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, IF WE CAN CONTINUE IT FROM
02:44:40 TODAY, BUT CONTINUE IT TO NEXT WEEK AT THE WATER
02:44:44 DISCUSSION.
02:44:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION,
02:44:48 MR. CHAIRMAN?
02:44:50 >>LUIS VIERA: AND BY THE WAY, I LOOKED AT COUNCILMAN
02:44:54 DINGFELDER FOR THE CONSEQUENCE ANSWER.
02:44:56 IT WAS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:44:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING ABOUT THAT MOTION, MR.
02:45:00 DINGFELDER, NUMBER ONE, IT'S A ONE-WEEK MOTION.
02:45:03 NUMBER TWO, IT MILE-PER-HOUR NOT GIVE THE STAFF ENOUGH
02:45:06 TIME, THE CLERK ENOUGH TIME.
02:45:07 IT DOESN'T KEEP THE ITEM FROM BEING RAISED NEXT WEEK
02:45:09 OBVIOUSLY DURING THE DISCUSSION.
02:45:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABOUT ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS ITEM WAS
02:45:12 ORIGINALLY RAISED BY ME IN JUNE.
02:45:15 SO THEY HAVE HAD ALL SUMMER TO RESEARCH IMPACT FEES, AND
02:45:22 THEY WERE DUE TODAY.
02:45:23 THERE'S NO PARTICULAR REASON WHY THEY ARE ASKING FOR A
02:45:26 CONTINUANCE.
02:45:27 I NEED THAT INFORMATION NEXT WEEK.
02:45:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.
02:45:30 THANK YOU.
02:45:30 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE MAKE IT AS A MOTIONS TO
02:45:34 CONTINUE IT TO NEXT WEEK?
02:45:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
02:45:38 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
02:45:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:45:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:45:43 ANY OPPOSED?
02:45:43 OKAY.
02:45:45 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 85.
02:45:49 AND WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM.
02:45:52 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MEMORANDUM, THOUGHTS?
02:45:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE IT.
02:46:05 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
02:46:05 DOES COUNCIL NEED TIME TO LOOK AT THE MEMO?
02:46:09 MOVE ON TO 86?
02:46:16 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO NUMBER 86.
02:46:18 >>THOM SNELLING: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
02:46:22 I DID SUBMIT THAT REPORT, AND I GAVE YOU THE COPY WITH
02:46:26 PERTINENT SECTIONS OF WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE.
02:46:29 LONG STORY SHORT, YOU HAVE THE POWER THAT YOU NEED RIGHT
02:46:33 NOW TO DESIGNATE THE STRUCTURES, LANDMARKS, CIGAR FACTORY
02:46:39 DISTRICT, ALREADY IN THE CODE.
02:46:43 SO I STATE THAT SPECIFICALLY SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK
02:46:49 AT IT.
02:46:49 AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS, SOMETIMES THIS CONVERSATION COMES
02:46:52 UP, EVERY FEW YEARS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN DO DIFFERENT KINDS
02:46:58 OF PROTECTIONS OF OUR HISTORIC RESOURCES.
02:47:02 AND THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN IN THE CODE FOR QUITE SOME
02:47:05 TIME.
02:47:05 AND IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL AND THE DIRECTION THEY WANT
02:47:08 TO TAKE IN TERMS OF EXECUTING THOSE CODE PROVISIONS.
02:47:13 >>RACHEL PETERKIN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:47:18 JUST TO CLARIFY, I CAN DESCRIBE THE PROCESS IF YOU LIKE,
02:47:22 BASED ON AN APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED.
02:47:25 TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, TONE USE YOUR
02:47:30 EXAMPLE OF THE CIGAR FACTORY, IF AN APPLICANT ASKED CITY
02:47:36 COUNCIL TO DO THAT THROUGH A MOTION, AND SAY THAT IT
02:47:38 WANTED TO LOOK INTO CREATING A MULTIPLE PROPERTIES
02:47:41 DESIGNATION FOR THE CIGAR FACTORIES, THEN THAT WOULD GO
02:47:45 BEFORE THE HPC.
02:47:47 IT WOULD REVIEW IT, AND THEN IT WOULD, AFTER HAVING A
02:47:50 PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU FOR
02:47:55 YOU ALL TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR AND MAKE A DECISION UPON.
02:48:05 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY CIGAR
02:48:07 FACTORIES OUT THERE THAT AREN'T DESIGNATED ALREADY?
02:48:09 >> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
02:48:10 >>THOM SNELLING: I SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION BUT I
02:48:14 DON'T.
02:48:14 DENNIS HAD TO TAP CARE OF AN EMERGENCY WITH ONE OF HIS
02:48:17 STAFF MEMBERS.
02:48:18 I AM GOING TO IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY SIX OR EIGHT AND
02:48:21 THAT NUMBER IS AN ABSOLUTE GUESS.
02:48:25 NONE OF THE CIGAR FACTORIES FROM WEST TAMPA, ALTHOUGH
02:48:28 IT'S A NATIONAL DISTRICT AND IS NOT A LOCAL DISTRICT, SO
02:48:31 IT DOES ENJOY THE LOCAL CODE REVIEWS LIKE THE CIGAR
02:48:38 FACTORIES IN YBOR, JUST OUTSIDE YBOR, IT'S AGAIN IN THE
02:48:46 NATURAL DISTRICT, BUT OUR LOCAL CODES SAYING HOW YOU HAVE
02:48:48 TO REBUILD IT, AND HOW IT HAS TO LOOK, ONLY TAKES PLACE
02:48:55 WITHIN ONE OF THE LOCAL DISTRICTS WHERE THE GUIDELINES
02:48:57 APPLY, SO THE GARCIA IS OUT, CIGAR FACTORIES IN WEST
02:49:01 TAMPA ARE OUT, THERE'S A CIGAR FACTORY DOWN IN PALMETTO
02:49:06 BEACH THAT IS OUT.
02:49:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
02:49:12 COMMITTEE.
02:49:13 I WONDER IF WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP AND HAVE THEM COME
02:49:15 TO US WITH THEIR RECOMMENDED LIST OF STRUCTURES THAT WE
02:49:18 SHOULD APPLY.
02:49:19 YOU SAID CITY COUNCIL CAN APPLY IF THE OWNER OF THE
02:49:22 BUILDING DOESN'T APPLY, CITY COUNCIL CAN APPLY?
02:49:25 >>RACHEL PETERKIN: THE PROCESS IS THAT ANY APPLICANT CAN
02:49:28 MAKE A REQUEST FOR SOMETHING TO BE DESIGNATED AS A
02:49:31 HISTORIC LANDMARK OR PROPERTY DESIGNATION.
02:49:34 YOU COULD BY MOTION SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION TO HPC AND
02:49:38 THEN THEY COULD --
02:49:41 >>BILL CARLSON: WHO THE EXPERT IS THAT WOULD COME BACK,
02:49:45 BUT HAVE SOMEBODY'S RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT CITY-WIDE
02:49:47 WHAT THE PRIORITY OF BUILDINGS WOULD BE THAT SHOULD BE
02:49:49 PRESERVED THAT AREN'T ALREADY --
02:49:54 >>RACHEL PETERKIN: I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD
02:49:56 COME BEFORE YOU, BUT I THINK DENNIS FERNANDEZ COULD COME
02:49:59 AS STAFF FOR HPC, THE ADMINISTRATOR, AND GIVE YOU
02:50:00 INFORMATION ABOUT THE OTHER CIGAR FACTORIES THAT MIGHT BE
02:50:03 OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE THAT DESIGNATION.
02:50:11 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO, DINGFELDER, THEN
02:50:11 MANISCALCO.
02:50:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TALK ABOUT THE 500-POUND GORILLA IN THE
02:50:17 BACK OF THE ROOM, IN THE VERY BACK OF THE ROOM.
02:50:21 SECTION 27-257, THE CRITERIA LANDMARK.
02:50:26 WHAT AUTHORITY OR HOW DID THE LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS WOULD
02:50:32 HELP US TO DECIDE ON WHETHER A HISTORIC CIGAR FACTORY CAN
02:50:37 BE PAINTED OR NOT? WOULD THIS GIVE US LEEWAY AS COUNCIL?
02:50:46 >>THOM SNELLING: THE GUIDELINES -- IT WOULD DEPEND ON
02:50:49 THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE DRAFTED AS A RESULT OF THAT.
02:50:51 RIGHT NOW, PAINTING IS NOT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
02:50:54 CONTROLLED IN THE LOCAL IT DISTRICT.
02:50:57 AND THAT'S BEEN DEBATED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT WHETHER OR
02:51:00 NOT THEY SHOULD CONTROL THE COLORS AND THAT KIND OF
02:51:03 THING.
02:51:03 SO RIGHT NOW, THE LOCAL DISTRICT, THE COLORS AND THE
02:51:08 PAINTING OF STRUCTURES IS NOT CONTROLLED.
02:51:10 BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF YOU HAVE A BRICK FACADE, AS
02:51:18 MOST CIGAR FACTORIES DO, IF YOU DID SOMETHING TO IMPAIR
02:51:23 THAT FACADE, THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY APPLY SOME ABILITY
02:51:27 TO CONTROL THAT.
02:51:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT 500-POUND GORILLA, WAS E-MAILS
02:51:36 TELEPHONE CALLS AND VERBAL DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW A
02:51:39 HISTORIC CIGAR FACTORY SHOULD BE MAINTAINED IN ITS
02:51:45 APPEARANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:51:45 AND I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE AS A COUNCIL CAN ASK
02:51:51 BUILDERS OR MANDATE BUILDERS, NO, YOU CAN'T DO CERTAIN
02:51:54 THINGS TO THE BUILDING.
02:51:55 IS THAT WITHIN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?
02:51:58 >>RACHEL PETERKIN: THE HPC COULD BRING THE STANDARDS AND
02:52:01 GUIDELINES WITH ITS RECOMMENDATION.
02:52:03 >>THOM SNELLING: IT'S JUST AS YBOR CITY HAS ITS OWN
02:52:08 SPECIFIC GUIDELINES, HYDE PARK HAS THEIR OWN SPECIFIC
02:52:11 GUIDELINES, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS THEIR OWN SPECIFIC
02:52:15 GUIDELINES, AND ALSO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
02:52:17 AND THE LOCAL DISTRICTS, IN MANY REGARDS, ARE VERY, VERY
02:52:20 SIMILAR, LIKE DEPENDING ON THE STATE OF SIGNIFICANCE OR
02:52:25 THE TIME OF SIGNIFICANCE, THAT WILL DICTATE CERTAIN OTHER
02:52:30 KINDS OF STRUCTURAL AND FACADE TREATMENTS THAT HAVE TO
02:52:33 TAKE PLACE.
02:52:35 CLEARLY YBOR CITY IS WAY DIFFERENT THAN HYDE PARK.
02:52:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE OF THE MOST HISTORIC AREAS IN OUR
02:52:45 CITY, WEST TAMPA, DOESN'T HAVE THIS?
02:52:50 >>THOM SNELLING: IT'S A NATIONAL DISTRICT.
02:52:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:52:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FILL IN A COUPLE OF BLANKS.
02:52:59 THESE BUILDINGS DID COME TO COUNCIL BACK IN '04,
02:53:05 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
02:53:07 AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS, THEY KIND OF BEGGED
02:53:13 THEIR WAY OUT OF THE PROCESS.
02:53:15 SPEAKING OF PROCESS, MR. CARLSON, IT'S A REALLY GOOD
02:53:21 SOLID PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
02:53:23 WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT IT IN MY OPINION BECAUSE IT'S A
02:53:27 VERY PUBLIC PROCESS.
02:53:30 WHAT WE COULD DO IS, I THINK STEP ONE IS TO ASK DENNIS TO
02:53:35 PRODUCE A LIST FOR US PFFT BUILDINGS, THE CIGAR BUILDINGS
02:53:40 THAT REMAIN THAT ARE NOT PROTECTED.
02:53:42 WHEN HE COMES BACK TO US WITHIN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WITH
02:53:45 THAT LIST, WE DON'T NEED TO EVALUATE THAT LIST, BECAUSE
02:53:50 IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE.
02:53:53 I THINK WHAT WE COULD SUGGEST WITH THAT LIST IS, OKAY,
02:53:56 THESE BUILDINGS ARE UNPROTECTED, LET'S THROW THEM OFF TO
02:54:00 THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
02:54:02 LET THEM DO THEIR DETAILED EVALUATION.
02:54:04 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR.
02:54:07 IT WOULD BE A VERY PUBLIC PROCESS.
02:54:08 SO THE OWNERS, SOME OF WHOM I KNOW AND HAVE CONTACTED ME
02:54:13 AND PROBABLY YOU, TO INCLUDE US FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS,
02:54:16 THEY CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO THE COMMISSION, THE
02:54:19 COMMISSION CAN EVALUATE THAT, THEN THE COMMISSION WILL
02:54:22 MAKE ITS RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER
02:54:26 VERY PUBLIC PROCESS, AND AGAIN THEY CAN TAKE ANOTHER BITE
02:54:29 OF THE APPLE AND INCH US NOT TO BE IN OR NOT TO BE IN AND
02:54:34 THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN EITHER ONE OF THOSE
02:54:36 PROCESSES AS WELL.
02:54:38 SO THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF HOW IT WORKS FROM 2004 AND I
02:54:44 DON'T THINK IT'S PROBABLY CHANGED MUCH SENSE.
02:54:46 WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT?
02:54:48 >> I WOULD, YES, SIR.
02:54:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WITH THAT SAID, IF SOMEBODY ELSE
02:54:52 WANTED TO SPEAK, I WILL ENTERTAIN -- I MEAN I WILL MAKE A
02:54:56 MOTION THAT DENNIS REPORT BACK.
02:55:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON SEPARATE BUT RELATED NOTE, THE
02:55:10 OTHER DAY THE TIMES, AGAIN, WROTE ABOUT GUIDA -- GUIDO IN
02:55:20 WEST TAMPA, AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITY LEADERS LOOKING AT
02:55:22 WHAT WE CAN DO TO RESTORE, PRESERVE, AND MOVE FORWARD
02:55:26 WITH THAT.
02:55:29 IT IS A SAT VACANT FOR 30 YEARS.
02:55:31 THE CITY OWNS IT.
02:55:33 AND I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THIS MEETING
02:55:36 REQUESTING THAT ALTHOUGH THIS HOUSE IS ON THE NATIONAL
02:55:42 REGISTRY, DESIGNATED A LOCAL LANDMARK, TO PUT IT ON THE
02:55:47 LOCAL PRESERVATION, REGISTRY, WHATEVER, BECAUSE -- AND
02:55:50 CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG -- WOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO APPLY
02:55:53 FOR DIFFERENT GRANTS TO HELP WITH THE PRESERVATION AND
02:55:57 RESTORATION AND WHATNOT? WHEN YOU ARE LOCALLY
02:55:59 DESIGNATED, WHAT DIFFERENCE IS THERE TO BEING NATIONALLY?
02:56:06 >>THOM SNELLING: THE LOCAL DESIGNATION COMES ALONG WITH
02:56:08 A REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF YOU HAVE TO MEET THE DESIGN
02:56:11 REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH MEANS YOU SIT IN FRONT OF ONE OF
02:56:14 THE BOARDS OF THE ARC, THEY OPINE, THEY JUDGE ON MAKING
02:56:19 SURE THAT YOU ARE DOING YOUR EXTERIOR WORK IN CONFORMANCE
02:56:23 WITH THE EXISTING AND ADOPTED DESIGN GUIDELINES.
02:56:26 THEY HAVE A PROTECTION OF THE CODE.
02:56:28 THE NATIONAL DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME TYPES OF
02:56:31 LOCAL DESIGN GUIDELINES.
02:56:33 THEY RECOGNIZE THAT AS THE NATIONAL DISTRICT, AND IT'S
02:56:38 MORE IN NAME, IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT, AND AS THE LOCAL
02:56:43 DISTRICTS EITHER EXPAND OR CONTRACT MOST RECENTLY, YBOR
02:56:47 EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT A FEW YEARS BACK, THEY BROUGHT IN
02:56:51 SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE, THAN
02:56:55 THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE NATIONAL DESIGNATION
02:56:58 DOESN'T PROVIDE YOU ARCHITECTURAL PROTECTION.
02:57:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:57:03 SO WHEN I MAKE THIS MOTION AT THE END OF THE MEETING, WON
02:57:07 I REQUEST LEGAL OR JUST DENNIS FERNANDEZ TO LOOK,
02:57:12 SEPARATE FROM THESE OTHER PROPERTIES?
02:57:16 >>THOM SNELLING: IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION FOR DENNIS,
02:57:20 RACHEL WILL SHOW UP.
02:57:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S OKAY.
02:57:24 WE'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AT THE END.
02:57:26 SEPTEMBER 5th.
02:57:28 IT'S PRETTY EASY BECAUSE IT'S ONE PROPERTY AND IT'S A
02:57:30 CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
02:57:31 SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY AND
02:57:34 WHATNOT.
02:57:35 THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
02:57:39 I KNOW AN RFP WAS PUT OUT TEN YEARS AGO ON THE GUIDA
02:57:43 HOUSE AND TEN YEARS AGO WE WERE GOING INTO THE GREAT
02:57:46 RECESSION, ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
02:57:49 I GRADUATED COLLEGE, BUT NOW THE SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.
02:57:55 THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE THERE WAS A
02:57:57 GREAT RESPONSE TO IT.
02:57:58 AND I THINK NOW WITHIN THE RENAISSANCE IN OUR CITY, WITH
02:58:01 THE GROWTH IN WEST TAMPA, WITH THE NEW HOMES BEING BUILT,
02:58:05 WITH BANK LENDING AND FINANCING BEING AVAILABLE, AND
02:58:08 PEOPLE IN BETTER FINANCIAL SHAPE, I THINK WE CAN MOVE
02:58:12 FORWARD WITH THIS ONE PROPERTY.
02:58:14 CIGAR FACTORIES, I AM GOING TO SUPPORT WHATEVER WE CAN
02:58:16 DO.
02:58:18 I CALL THEM OUR CASTLES.
02:58:23 WE HAVE BUILDINGS THAT OUT DON'T FIND ELSEWHERE.
02:58:27 SO WITH THAT I AM GLAD WE ARE EVERYTHING THIS DISCUSSION.
02:58:29 THANK YOU.
02:58:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON ONE
02:58:34 OTHER THING, THOM.
02:58:35 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
02:58:38 WHEN THE SUBJECT EARLIER CAME UP ABOUT PAINTING, I KNOW
02:58:41 MR. CITRO SAID OBVIOUSLY THE GORILLA IN THE ROOM, THE
02:58:47 PAINTING OF THE EXTERIOR.
02:58:48 THE PAINTING OF THAT.
02:58:50 AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY
02:58:54 REGULATE.
02:58:56 YOU CAN'T GO INTO AN HISTORIC DISTRICT IN HYDE PARK
02:58:59 AND --
02:59:01 >>THOM SNELLING: HAS TO HAVE A LOCAL DESIGNATION.
02:59:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.
02:59:06 IF WE HAD A CIGAR FACTORY, LET'S SAY, IN YBOR CITY THAT
02:59:09 IS PROTECTED UNDER OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE, CAN'T PAINT THE
02:59:13 BRICK, I DON'T THINK.
02:59:15 THAT'S MY REFLECTION.
02:59:17 BUT INTERIOR PAINT, NO DOUBT YOU CAN PICK YOUR OWN
02:59:20 COLORS, INTERIOR, PROBABLY AND GET AWAY WITH A LOT.
02:59:23 BUT THE EXTERIOR, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON THAT
02:59:27 ONE.
02:59:27 BUT ANYWAY, GOING BACK TO MY MOTION, ON SEPTEMBER
02:59:30 5th, STAFF, DENNIS, WHOEVER, COME BACK TO US WITH A
02:59:33 LIST OF THE UNPROTECTED CIGAR FACTORIES IN THE CITY OF
02:59:37 TAMPA.
02:59:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:59:39 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:59:41 I BELIEVE THE FIRST SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
02:59:51 GUIDO MANISCALCO.
02:59:52 I'LL GIVE IT TO CARLSON.
02:59:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:59:56 ANY OPPOSED?
02:59:58 THANK YOU.
03:00:01 NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 87.
03:00:05 YES, SIR.
03:00:06 AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE CONTINUED?
03:00:08 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] YES.
03:00:12 TO JANUARY.
03:00:17 WHATEVER THE WORKSHOP DATE.
03:00:22 AND ANY INFORMATION TO BRING BACK.
03:00:24 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:00:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:00:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:00:28 ANY OPPOSED?
03:00:29 ALL RIGHT.
03:00:29 OUR LAST ITEM IS 88.
03:00:31 >>THOM SNELLING: PLANNING AND DEVELOP DIRECTOR.
03:00:42 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I APOLOGIZE.
03:00:43 WE NEEDED TO MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DOCUMENTS FOR
03:00:45 ITEM 85.
03:00:48 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:00:50 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:00:55 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
03:00:58 SORRY, GO AHEAD.
03:00:59 >>THOM SNELLING: I KNOW I SPOKE TO THIS BEFORE.
03:01:04 THAT BASICALLY OUTLINES THE PROCESS.
03:01:08 WHEN I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED THE TAPE, I GOT THE MINUTES
03:01:11 FROM THE THING.
03:01:12 I FOUND THAT GUDES HAD MORE CONCERNS -- NOT TO SPEAK FOR
03:01:19 YOU -- ABOUT SOME TYPE OF NOTICE PROCEDURE.
03:01:22 AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR CONCERNS WERE.
03:01:25 SO NOW ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
03:01:31 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
03:01:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY MAIN CONCERN IS DEFINITELY IN
03:01:41 THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THE PROCESS THAT WILL ALERT
03:01:47 RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS AN UNDERTAKING THAT'S GOING ON.
03:01:50 AGAIN, A LOT OF ACTIVISM RESIDENTS OF A COUPLE OF
03:01:56 INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED, AND WHAT I SAW WAS LIKE MIND
03:01:59 BOGGLING.
03:02:00 SO I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR POLICIES WERE
03:02:04 AND NOTIFICATION OF RESIDENTS, SCHOOLS, DAYCARES, THE
03:02:13 COMMITTEE ON DEMOLITION, YOU HAVE GOT THE STENCH, YOU
03:02:16 HAVE GOT DEBRIS, NO PROPER WATER BEING POURED ONTO THE
03:02:24 DUST AND SO FORTH, AND THAT RAISED MY CONCERNS.
03:02:27 >>THOM SNELLING: YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE IS NO, IN OUR
03:02:31 CURRENT CODES, IN THE CURRENT PROCESS, THERE IS NO PUBLIC
03:02:34 NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
03:02:36 AND WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE WATER, AND TAMPA
03:02:41 WATER DEPARTMENT, PROVIDED THEY TAP INTO A HYDRANT NEARBY
03:02:48 OR SOME OTHER SOURCE LIKE THAT SO THE WATER IS PROVIDED.
03:02:52 IF IN THE CASE THEY WERE DEMOLISHING IT, THEY PROBABLY
03:02:58 SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOSING IT DOWN TO KEEP THE DUST AND MUCH
03:03:02 THE DEBRIS SOMEWHAT CONTAINED.
03:03:07 THAT'S MY ONLY REAL ANSWER TO THAT.
03:03:11 NOW, ON THE NOTICE, LIKE I SAY, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC
03:03:13 REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE.
03:03:15 SO NONE IS TAKING PLACE.
03:03:18 WHETHER IT'S TO A RESIDENT NEXT DOOR OR DAYCARE, SCHOOLS,
03:03:24 CHURCHES, WHAT HAVE YOU.
03:03:26 WHEN THEY ARE DOING OR STAGING ACTUALLY IN THE PUBLIC
03:03:28 RIGHT-OF-WAY, THEY HAVE TO GET A MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC,
03:03:35 MOT, DETOURING THE FOLKS AROUND, CLOSING THE SIDEWALKS.
03:03:39 YOU COME DOWNTOWN EVERY DAY, ALL THOSE DETOURS ARE
03:03:43 MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC REQUIREMENTS.
03:03:46 DEMOLITIONS WHEN THEY ALSO STAGE, AND SOMETIMES DEPENDING
03:03:49 ON THE SIZE OF DEMOLITION, IT'S LARGE, THEY HAVE TO BRING
03:03:52 IN LARGE EQUIPMENT.
03:03:53 SOMETIMES THEY'LL STAGE IT IN THE STREET AND WORK ON THE
03:03:56 STREET TO CLEAR THE SITE.
03:03:59 SO OTHER THAN ANY KIND OF AN MOT, THERE REALLY IS NO
03:04:03 OTHER NOTICE.
03:04:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THERE A CODE INSPECTOR, OR SOMEONE ON
03:04:09 THE FIRST DAY TO COME OUT AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN
03:04:11 COMPLIANCE?
03:04:13 >>THOM SNELLING: WE DO AN PRESITE INSPECTION, MY
03:04:15 DIVISION DOES.
03:04:16 THEY WILL GO OUT THERE AND LOOK TO SEE HOW THEY ARE
03:04:18 SETTING UP AND IF THERE'S TREES ON-SITE, IF THEY HAVE AT
03:04:21 ANY TIME PROPER TREES PROTECTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE
03:04:25 ACCESS TO THE WATER.
03:04:27 THEY DO THE PRECONSTRUCTION LIKE WE DO WITH ALL
03:04:30 CONSTRUCTION JOBS.
03:04:31 THEY DO A PREDEMOLITION INSPECTION, TO GET THE LAY OF THE
03:04:35 LAND AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS PROTECTED, YOU KNOW,
03:04:39 IF THEY HAVE TO PUT UP SILT SCREENS FOR PROTECTIONS SO
03:04:42 STUFF DOESN'T RUN INTO THE STREET ONTO THE NEIGHBOR'S
03:04:45 PROPERTY, MAKE SURE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE UP.
03:04:47 ONCE THEY DO THAT, WE GO BACK AFTER THE DEMO IS DONE TO
03:04:52 INSPECT THAT THERE IS NO DANGER THAT THERE IS REBAR OR
03:04:57 SOMETHING, THERE'S NOT REBAR STICKING UP OUT OF THE
03:05:00 GROUND THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF FORGOTTEN, OR THE SLABS ARE
03:05:04 CLEANED AND LEVEL AND ALL THE DEBRIS HAS BEEN REMOVED
03:05:06 FROM THE SITE.
03:05:07 SO WE DO A PRECONSTRUCTION INSPECTION AND POST-DEMOLITION
03:05:11 INSPECTION.
03:05:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHEN I WENT OUT TO
03:05:16 THAT ONE SCENE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT THAT YOU WERE
03:05:20 TALKING ABOUT.
03:05:20 I JUST SAW THIS COMPANY DEMO THE PROPERTY.
03:05:27 YOU HAVE GOT HOUSES RIGHT HERE, RIGHT THERE, AND YOU TALK
03:05:31 ABOUT SCREENING.
03:05:33 I SEE THESE GUYS OUT THEREIN, TWO SIDES, BUT THEMSELVES
03:05:38 NO MASK, NO HARD HATS, NO REAL BARRICADES IN THE ROAD,
03:05:44 ESPECIALLY ON 20th, 21st, A MAIN THOROUGHFARE,
03:05:51 AND THAT'S SOME OF MY CONCERNS, WHY WAS ON SCENE WITH THE
03:05:54 RESIDENTS CALLING ABOUT IT? I AM JUST HOPING THAT WE CAN
03:05:57 COME UP WITH SOME POLICIES, OR WE HAVE TO MAKE IN REGARD
03:06:01 TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOTICING THE PUBLIC WHEN THESE
03:06:05 THINGS ARE OCCURRING.
03:06:06 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE ADJACENT SCHOOLS.
03:06:09 IT'S RARE, BUT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WHEN THEY DO
03:06:14 COME UP.
03:06:14 AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
03:06:16 WATCH TO LOOK INTO THAT.
03:06:17 >>THOM SNELLING: JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
03:06:21 IN TERMS OF THE WORKERS, THE DEMOLITION, CONTRACTORS, THE
03:06:26 SAFETY GUYS WITH HARD HATS, BRIGHT COLORED VESTS, THOSE
03:06:29 KIND OF THINGS, RUBBER GLOVES, THAT'S ON THE CONTRACTOR.
03:06:33 THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LIABILITY AND THEIR OWN OSHA
03:06:37 STANDARDS THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
03:06:38 FANNED THEY ARE NOT AND THEY ARE JUST LETTING THEIR
03:06:40 CONTRACTORS WALK AROUND WITH SNEAKERS ON A CONSTRUCTION
03:06:43 SITE AND DO NOT HAVE HARD HATS ON, SHAME ON THEM BECAUSE
03:06:46 THEY DRAMATICALLY ARE INCREASING THEIR LIABILITY.
03:06:49 BUT WE DON'T ENFORCE OSHA STANDARDS ON PRIVATE
03:06:53 CONTRACTORS.
03:06:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SENDING OUT A NOTICE TO PARTIES
03:07:01 OF DEMOLITION BEING DONE ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT
03:07:04 IN THE AREA AND YOU HAVE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT,
03:07:07 THAT THEY AT LEAST BE AWARE OF THAT'S HAPPENING, BECAUSE
03:07:10 YOU HAVE DEBRIS FLYING EVERYWHERE.
03:07:12 I THINK WE SHOULD BE ALERTING OUR RESIDENTS.
03:07:14 >>THOM SNELLING: YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THE
03:07:20 FORM OF A MOTION.
03:07:21 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
03:07:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL DO IT AT THE END.
03:07:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
03:07:30 OKAY.
03:07:30 NOW WE MOVE ON TO MOTIONS, NEW BUSINESS.
03:07:35 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?
03:07:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
03:07:41 THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS STARTED BASED OUT OF
03:07:45 TAMPA CALLED THE AKILAH GROUP, A-K-I-L-A-H, BY THE DAVIS
03:07:54 FAMILY. ELIZABETH DAVIS IS THE DAUGHTER OF CODY AND BETH
03:07:58 DAVIS. A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION THAT IS BUILDING SCHOOLS
03:08:00 IN AFRICA, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG WOMEN.
03:08:04 AND THEY ARE COMING UP ON THEIR TENTH ANNIVERSARY.
03:08:08 SPECIFICALLY, THEY ARE BUILDING IN RWANDA, WHICH AS YOU
03:08:12 RECALL HAD HORRIBLE GENOCIDE 20 YEARS AGO, AND THAT'S ONE
03:08:16 OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED THE DAVIS FAMILIAR REPLY TO
03:08:19 THAT AREA TO TRY TO HELP THE COUNTRY AND HELP THE YOUNG
03:08:23 WOMEN.
03:08:24 MANY OF THEM HAD BEEN ORPHANED BY THAT GENERAL OH SITE.
03:08:27 ANYWAY WITH, THAT SAID -- GENOCIDE, I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL
03:08:31 TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION, OR I'LL PRESENT A COMMENDATION
03:08:34 TO THE ORGANIZATION AT THEIR TENTH ANNIVERSARY
03:08:38 CELEBRATION IN OCTOBER.
03:08:38 >> SECOND.
03:08:40 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:08:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:08:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:08:44 ANY OPPOSED?
03:08:45 AND WAS THAT ORGANIZATION TEN YEARS AGO IN THE NEWSPAPER
03:08:50 ARTICLE?
03:08:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
03:08:52 >>LUIS VIERA: I REMEMBER THAT ARTICLE.
03:08:55 I REMEMBER THAT.
03:08:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.
03:08:58 THEY HAVE NOW GRADUATED, I THINK PROBABLY SEVERAL
03:09:01 THOUSAND YOUNG LADIES WHO ARE JUST OUT THERE DOING GREAT
03:09:07 THINGS, IN THAT PART OF AFRICA, THAT NEEDED A LOT OF HELP
03:09:13 AND IS GETTING SOME HELP.
03:09:14 THANK YOU.
03:09:14 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:09:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON JUNE 20, I MADE A MOTION FOR AN
03:09:27 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND BRING BACK OPTIONS AND
03:09:29 RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 5, 2019 UNDER
03:09:32 STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
03:09:35 I CHANGED MY MOTION BY ASKING THE DEPARTMENT TO BRING
03:09:38 BACK THEIR OPTIONS TO A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON OCTOBER
03:09:42 24, 2019.
03:09:43 THIS WILL PERMIT A DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUE.
03:09:45 DEBATE WILL BE HELPFUL AND PRODUCTIVE.
03:09:47 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:09:55 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:09:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:58 OPPOSED?
03:10:00 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:10:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
03:10:02 TO NOTICE OF DEMOLITION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:10:10 >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
03:10:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN SIXTY DAYS.
03:10:16 >> OCTOBER 17th UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
03:10:32 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, A
03:10:34 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:10:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:10:37 ANY MOVED?
03:10:38 ANYTHING, SIR?
03:10:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT.
03:10:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEW
03:10:44 DEPUTY CHIEF RUBEN DELGADO, PROMOTED FROM DISTRICT MAJOR,
03:10:48 TAMPA POLICE, NOW DEPUTY CHIEF, IN HIS PLACE IS MAJOR
03:10:53 CARLOS RODRIGUEZ, IS NOW THE MAJOR OF DISTRICT 1, ALSO
03:10:59 KNOWN AS THE CHAMPAGNE DISTRICT.
03:11:02 AND THEY DO A POLICE RIDE ALONG.
03:11:07 ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.
03:11:11 THEY DO VERY WELL IN THEIR CAPACITY.
03:11:14 THAT'S THAT.
03:11:14 SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AND I DISCUSSED IT
03:11:17 A FEW MINUTES AGO, FOR SEPTEMBER 5th, I BELIEVE
03:11:22 SOMEONE FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION, OR RACHEL HERE, WITH
03:11:25 LEGAL, SHOULD COME BACK LOOKING AT DESIGNATING THE GEORGE
03:11:34 GUIDA HOUSE, THE LOCAL LANDMARK, PUT IT ON THE LOCAL
03:11:39 REGISTRY. IT'S ON THE NATIONAL ONE, BUT PUTTING IT ON
03:11:41 THE LOCAL WILL BE MORE HELPFUL IN REGARDS TO RESTORING
03:11:45 IT, RESTORING IT PROPERLY, AND THE GUIDELINES OF HOW THE
03:11:47 EXTERIOR NEEDS TO LOOK SO WE CAN PRESERVE THE CHARACTER
03:11:52 OF THIS VERY UNIQUE MID CENTURY HOME IN WEST TAMPA.
03:11:55 >> SECOND.
03:11:58 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:12:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:12:01 ANY OPPOSED.
03:12:01 >> ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
03:12:07 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:12:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LAST THURSDAY, I ATTENDED A
03:12:10 GROUNDBREAKING AT THE CHARTER AMERICAN CLUB IN YBOR CITY
03:12:14 THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
03:12:16 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WAS THERE ALSO.
03:12:18 HOWEVER, I DID MISS MY TRAINING THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE
03:12:22 LAW FOR COUNCIL AT THAT MEETING WHICH COUNCILMAN GUDES
03:12:29 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WERE ALSO AT THAT CONFERENCE,
03:12:31 WHICH WAS A GREAT CONFERENCE.
03:12:33 I FOUND OUT THAT NO MATTER HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL CITIES
03:12:37 AND MUNICIPALITIES ARE, WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM,
03:12:42 SAME ISSUES.
03:12:43 ESPECIALLY -- AND I WON'T DRAW OUT MUCH ON THIS --
03:12:47 TALLAHASSEE OVERRIDING LOCAL RULE.
03:12:51 THERE, I SAID IT.
03:12:52 HOWEVER, BECAUSE I MISSED THAT TRAINING SESSION, I MOVE
03:12:55 TO ASK CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT
03:12:59 REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 5th TO PROVIDE OPTIONS
03:13:03 AND PERSPECTIVE DATES FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND
03:13:07 AN ANNUAL FOUR-HOUR OF TRAINING REQUIRED BY STATE LAW IN
03:13:12 THE AREAS OF ETHICS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND PUBLIC RECORDS.
03:13:16 NOW, I AM ASKING, CAN THIS BE DONE IN FOUR HOURS IN ONE
03:13:19 DAY, OR TWO HOURS OVER TWO DIFFERENT DAYS? THAT IS MY
03:13:23 MOTION.
03:13:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR ME WOULD
03:13:25 TO GET A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER COUNCIL
03:13:29 WISHES TO HAVE THIS SCHEDULED FOR A ONE-DAY FOUR-HOUR
03:13:34 TREK, OR TWO-DAY, TWO-HOURS EACH.
03:13:39 AND WE CAN SCHEDULE IT IN AN AFTERNOON OR ANOTHER DAY.
03:13:43 I'LL WORK WITH THE CHAIR, I GUESS.
03:13:48 >>> WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ETHICS TRAINING WE ARE REQUIRED
03:13:51 TO DO?
03:13:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
03:13:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW, IF WE WERE TO WATCH VIDEO ON
03:13:59 YOUTUBE OR ANYTHING ELSE THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES OAR
03:14:03 WHATNOT --
03:14:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, LEGALLY, YES.
03:14:06 BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE
03:14:09 I BELIEVE 2013.
03:14:12 THE LAW IS CHANGING DRAMATICALLY OVER THE COURSE OF THIS
03:14:16 YEAR.
03:14:16 AND I DO SOME PRESENTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE FOR THE
03:14:20 LEAGUE OF CITIES.
03:14:23 THE LAST TIME I DID WAS IN WINTER HAVEN.
03:14:25 AND I DO IT IN A FOUR-HOUR SHOT.
03:14:28 AND I COULD CHECK WITH THE SUNCOAST.
03:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I REMEMBER ONE YEAR, WAS IT SUNKEN
03:14:36 GARDENS OR LARGO THAT IS CORRECT THEY OFFERED AN FOUR
03:14:39 HOUR COURSE?
03:14:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR THAT AS WELL.
03:14:46 BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO
03:14:52 FULFILL THE LAW OR DO YOU WANT TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THE
03:14:53 TRAINING, IS THE POINT.
03:14:54 BECAUSE TECHNICALLY YOU CAN WATCH SOMETHING THAT YOU
03:14:57 WATCH EVERY DECEMBER 31st BUT THE LAW, I WILL SHARE
03:14:59 UP WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC RECORDS WITH, REGARD TO
03:15:02 TRAINING, WITH REGARD TO ETHICS, PUBLIC RECORDS, PUBLIC
03:15:04 MEETINGS, AND ETHICS, IT'S RAPIDLY CHANGING.
03:15:08 AND THE BEAUTY OF DOING IT, IF THERE'S A SILVER LINING TO
03:15:14 THE CLOUD EVERY YEAR, IS THAT THE LAW IS EXCHANGING, AND
03:15:17 IT'S TO YOUR ADVANTAGE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO THAT YOU
03:15:20 ARE PROTECTED.
03:15:21 >>LUIS VIERA: SO WE CAN WATCH THIS ON VIDEO, I GUESS?
03:15:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE MAY BE A COURSE
03:15:33 ONLINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO LOOK AT THAT THAT IS
03:15:35 ACTUALLY DONE WITH A TEST, AND I BELIEVE -- [OFF
03:15:47 MICROPHONE]
03:15:53 >> SO IN REGARD TO -- I DEFINITELY WOULD GO FOR THE TWO,
03:16:00 TWO-HOUR SESSIONS.
03:16:02 AND I BELIEVE YOU CAN BREAK IT UP.
03:16:05 AND THE OTHER PART, I WONDER, MARTY, USE YOUR BROADWAY
03:16:10 BACKGROUND TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ENTERTAINING.
03:16:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE GOTTEN GREAT REVIEWS FROM THE
03:16:16 LEAGUE OF CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, FROM VOLUSIA
03:16:18 COUNTY.
03:16:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A LITTLE SONG AND DANCE?
03:16:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, BUT MY GOAL U.REPLY --
03:16:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M JUST TEASING.
03:16:27 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I HAVE TO LEAVE IN ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES
03:16:32 JUST FYI.
03:16:34 SHOULD WE VOTE ON THIS?
03:16:36 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECOND BY
03:16:40 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
03:16:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:16:50 >> SEPTEMBER 5th.
03:16:53 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK ISSUES.
03:16:54 NUMBER ONE, AND THESE ARE BOTH RELATED TO CONSTITUENT
03:16:56 REQUESTS, COMPLAINTS.
03:16:57 ONE OF THEM IS THAT WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT
03:17:00 BOATS BEING PARKED ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN PLACE OF WHERE
03:17:04 CARS WOULD BE, AND THAT'S CONSIDERED A NUISANCE.
03:17:08 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE OF
03:17:11 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, LEGAL, PARKING AND PLANNING ZONING
03:17:14 DEPARTMENT APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL DURING COUNCIL'S
03:17:16 WORKSHOP ON 10-24 TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL CODE CHANGES TO
03:17:19 TAMPA CODE SECTION NUMBER 15 REGARDING THE PARKING OF
03:17:24 UNLOADED VEHICLES AND ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF THESE
03:17:27 POTENTIAL CODE CHANGES.
03:17:28 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:17:31 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:17:32 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:17:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:17:40 >>BILL CARLSON: TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE CODE CHANGES TO
03:17:41 ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
03:17:42 BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC.
03:17:46 THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC IN CODE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
03:17:49 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
03:17:50 ANY OPPOSED?
03:17:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I COULD MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
03:17:55 BOATS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE COMPLAINTS I HAVE GOTTEN.
03:17:58 ANYTIME I WALK INTO THE WEST TAMPA SANDWICH SHOP.
03:18:01 THEY SAY THEY PARK ON A PUBLIC ROAD.
03:18:07 >>BILL CARLSON: MOTOR HOMES TOO.
03:18:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THINK ABOUT AMBULANCES TRYING TO
03:18:10 COME THROUGH, FIRE TRUCKS TRYING TO GET THROUGH, THEY
03:18:13 CAN'T FIT. I CAN BARELY FIT MY CAR.
03:18:16 >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER ONE, LAST WEEK WE WERE INUNDATED
03:18:19 WITH COMPLAINTS ABOUT FLOODING.
03:18:21 AND THERE ARE VARIOUS CAUSES OF FLOODING, BUT YOU ALL WHO
03:18:25 WERE HERE BEFORE REMEMBER WHEN THE STORMWATER TAX WAS
03:18:27 APPROVED THE FIRST THING STORMWATER PEOPLE DID WAS
03:18:30 CLEANED OUT THE GUTTERS THAT WERE FULL OF YEARS OF
03:18:32 DEBRIS.
03:18:33 AND THERE IS A CURRENT ORDINANCE RELATED TO DUMPING OF
03:18:37 DEBRIS, BUT THERE IS NOTHING SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY
03:18:39 RELATED TO LEAF BLOWERS.
03:18:44 AND I'LL BRING UP THIS ISSUE AND SEE IF YOU ALL WILL
03:18:46 ADDRESS IT.
03:18:47 THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES WITH LEAF BLOWERS.
03:18:49 ONE IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF GAS LEAF BLOWERS IS
03:18:54 THIS NOISE ISSUE WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT,
03:18:57 AND THEN THE FILLING OF STORM GUTTERS OR CULVERTS WITH
03:19:00 DEBRIS, WHICH IS ILLEGAL ALREADY, BUT THE WAY THE CODE IS
03:19:03 SET UP, IT'S NOT EASY TO ENFORCE.
03:19:05 SO I'LL THROW THIS OUT THERE AND SEE HOW YOU ALL REACT TO
03:19:08 IT.
03:19:09 I MAKE A MOTION THAT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CODE
03:19:10 ENFORCEMENT, LEGAL AND STORMWATER SERVICES APPEAR BEFORE
03:19:13 COUNCIL DURING COUNCIL'S WORKSHOP ON 10-24 TO DISCUSS
03:19:17 POTENTIAL CODE CHANGES TO TAMPA CODE REGARDING THE USAGE
03:19:20 OF GAS LEAF BLOWERS, THE DUMPING OF LAWN DEBRIS INTO
03:19:25 STORMWATER DRAINS AND CULVERTS AND THAN THE CONSEQUENCES
03:19:28 FROM THERE DUMPING OR DEBRIS.
03:19:31 >>LUIS VIERA: A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:19:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:19:34 ANY OPPOSED?
03:19:35 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:19:37 NOW I AM GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL OVER.
03:19:39 I HAVE A FEW MOTIONS TO MAKE.
03:19:40 BUT IF YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF MOTIONS, DON'T EVER LET ME
03:19:44 MOTION SHAME YOU.
03:19:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU NEED 7 MINUTES FOR YOURSELF.
03:19:52 >>LUIS VIERA: EXACTLY. UNFORTUNATELY.
03:19:54 FIRST A MOTION FOR TITUS O'NEIL FOR HIS MANY GOOD WORKS,
03:19:58 SECOND IT BE AWARDED ON SEPTEMBER 19th HERE AT TAMPA
03:20:02 CITY COUNCIL.
03:20:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:20:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:20:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:20:12 SECOND, I MOTION THAT COL. DJ RAY, WHO I KNOW COUNCILMAN
03:20:17 DINGFELDER KNOWS FROM HIS VETERANS COURT, COME SEPTEMBER
03:20:23 5TH REGARDING VETERANS TREATMENT COURT AND THE STATUS OF
03:20:25 THIS GREAT PROGRAM FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS.
03:20:27 >> SECOND.
03:20:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A
03:20:32 SECOND, I THINK I HEARD, FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:20:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:20:37 ALL RIGHT.
03:20:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THIRD, I MOTIONED PREVIOUSLY FOR KITCHENS,
03:20:41 AN ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR REFUGEES FROM
03:20:45 VARIOUS AREAS SUCH AS SYRIA, TO RECEIVE A COMMENDATION.
03:20:48 I WISH TO SET A DATE FOR THAT TO BE OCTOBER 3rd THIS
03:20:51 YEAR HERE AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
03:20:52 >> SECOND.
03:20:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
03:20:57 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:21:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THREE MORE.
03:21:03 I MOTION THAT A COMMENDATION FOR ABC GULF COAST CHAPTER
03:21:04 ON THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY, THAT SAID MOTION BE PRESENTED
03:21:05 AT THEIR EVENT ON SEPTEMBER 13th.
03:21:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:21:11 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:21:15 ALL IN FAVOR.
03:21:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I MOTION TO INVITE UNIVERSITY AREA
03:21:18 CDCCO SARA HOLMES TO PRESENT ON THE CDC NEIGHBORHOOD
03:21:20 TRANSFORMATION STRATEGY AT CITY COUNCIL OCTOBER 17th.
03:21:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN
03:21:27 FAVOR?
03:21:29 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE I BECAME CHAIR, I WAS THE BANE OF
03:21:33 FRANK ON MOTIONS --
03:21:36 >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY.
03:21:38 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I
03:21:40 HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO FOR A WHILE, NOT LONG AGO.
03:21:43 I WENT WITH MY SON TO KIND OF HAVE A CIVIL RIGHTS TRIP TO
03:21:48 MISSISSIPPI, WENT TO VARIOUS PLACES, LOOKED AT THE
03:21:50 MISSISSIPPI DELTA.
03:21:51 WHILE WE WERE THERE, WE ALSO GOT AS MUCH OF A LOOK AS WE
03:21:55 COULD AT THE MISSISSIPPI STATE PENITENTIARY, OTHERWISE
03:21:57 KNOWN AS PARSHMAN FARM, PARSHMAN PRISON, BACK IN THE DAYS
03:22:02 AFTER RECONSTRUCTION WHEN AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE ARRESTED
03:22:08 ON FRIVOLOUS CLAIMS AND PUT TO WORK FOR THE STATE OF
03:22:09 MISSISSIPPI SO THEY COULD BEGIN TO HAVE REVENUE AFTER THE
03:22:12 CIVIL WAR, AND THAT KIND OF LED ME TO THE ISSUE OF PRISON
03:22:16 LABOR, SOMETHING THAT I HAVE FOUND VERY FASCINATING IN
03:22:18 OUR COUNTRY, AND JUST LOOKING AT VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT THE
03:22:22 CITY CAN DO IN TERMS OF TAKING, I GUESS, A MORAL STAND OF
03:22:27 SOLIDARITY.
03:22:27 AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT IT 50 YEARS FROM
03:22:32 NOW OR 5 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT WERE GOING TO GO, WHAT THE
03:22:35 HECK WERE WE THINKING IN TERMS OF LETTING THIS CRIPPLING
03:22:37 POLICY TO GO FORWARD.
03:22:38 THEREFORE, TWO THINGS.
03:22:39 I MOTION FOR A RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING LOCAL GOVERNMENT
03:22:42 ENTITIES FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FROM CONTRACTING WITH
03:22:45 COMPANIES THAT WOULD USE PRISON LABOR, FOR-PROFIT LABOR.
03:22:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:22:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I SPEAK ON IT?
03:23:05 ARE WE AWARE OF IT? I'M CONFUSED.
03:23:07 >>LUIS VIERA: LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
03:23:08 CITY OF -- IT WASN'T GAINESVILLE.
03:23:11 IT ACTUALLY WAS GAINESVILLE RECENTLY CUT OFF ALL TIES
03:23:14 WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD USE PRISON LABOR.
03:23:16 SO YES.
03:23:19 AND A LOT OF PRIVATE COMPANIES, FOR EXAMPLE, DO IT.
03:23:21 WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT COMPANIES THAT DIRECTLY
03:23:24 CONTRACT FOR THAT, BUT PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT ARE
03:23:27 MAINSTREAM BUSINESSES THAT USE THEIR SERVICES.
03:23:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME,
03:23:35 BUT THERE USED TO BE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED --
03:23:40 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S A PUBLIC SECTOR.
03:23:42 I SPECIFICALLY STATED PRIVATE SECTOR FOR PROFIT.
03:23:45 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC SECTOR ENTANGLEMENTS.
03:23:48 THAT'S WHY MY MOTION IS SPECIFICALLY FOR PRIVATE SECTOR
03:23:51 ONES.
03:23:51 I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO PRIVATE SECTOR AT THIS TIME.
03:23:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULDN'T IT IMPACT THE SHERIFF -- I
03:23:58 DON'T THINK IT'S FORCED LABOR, BUT SOMETIMES I HAVE SEEN
03:24:00 IN PINELLAS, THE SHERIFF USES PRISON LABOR TO DO SOME
03:24:04 ROADWORK AND THAT SORT OF THING.
03:24:06 I THINK THAT'S VOLUNTARY ON THE PART OF THE PRISONERS.
03:24:10 THEY MAKE LIKE A DOLLAR AN HOUR, BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE
03:24:13 NOT SITTING IN THEIR JAIL CELL NOT DOING ANYTHING.
03:24:18 >>LUIS VIERA: AND WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS PRIVATE
03:24:19 ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE FOR-PROFIT LABOR, WHETHER OR NOT A
03:24:22 GOVERNMENT DEALS WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, PRIVATE IS AN
03:24:27 ISSUE WHICH I HAVE MY OPINIONS ON BUT I AM NOT DIRECTLY
03:24:30 REFERENCING IN THIS MOTION BECAUSE THAT'S A SEPARATE
03:24:33 ISSUE.
03:24:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:24:36 WE HAD A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:24:38 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:24:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:24:44 >>LUIS VIERA: AND NEXT I WOULD MOTION FOR LEGAL STAFF TO
03:24:46 COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 7th FOR AN
03:24:48 ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY DEALING WITH PRISON LABOR THAT
03:24:50 WOULD DEAL WITH A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY
03:24:53 MAKE WHAT I THINK IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT MORAL
03:24:55 STATEMENT ON THE PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, NUMBER ONE,
03:24:58 WE WOULD HAVE CONTRACTORS CERTIFY, AND LEGAL IS GOING TO
03:25:02 COME BACK TOOK TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO
03:25:04 LEGALLY, OBVIOUSLY.
03:25:05 SO HAVE CONTRACTORS CERTIFIED THAT THEY DO NOT CONTRACT
03:25:09 FROM PRISON LABORERS IN TERMS OF COMPANIES THAT ARE
03:25:12 FOR-PROFIT AND USE PRISON LABOR ON A FOR-PROFIT BASIS AND
03:25:16 PREVENT THE CITY OF TAMPA FROM CONTRACTING WITH PRIVATE
03:25:19 FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES THAT USE PRISON LABOR.
03:25:22 SO WE GET PRIVATE -- NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC SECTOR
03:25:25 AT THIS TIME.
03:25:25 >> SECOND.
03:25:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:25:29 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:25:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:25:35 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:25:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WE HAD A YOUNG LADY
03:25:46 WORKING IN MY OFFICE, SHE WAS DYNAMIC. I DIDN'T GET A
03:25:48 PROPER CHANCE TO SAY GOODBYE TO HER LAST WEEK BECAUSE WE
03:25:51 WERE GONE.
03:25:53 I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHANCE.
03:25:56 SHE LIKES WATCHING CITY COUNCIL SO SHE'S PROBABLY
03:25:58 WATCHING.
03:25:59 SHE'S PROBABLY BACK AT NORTH CAROLINA GETTING READY TO
03:26:03 START CLASSES AT DUKE ON MONDAY.
03:26:07 SO, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
03:26:09 YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB FOR US, MAKING MOTIONS,
03:26:13 INFORMATION TO GATHER FOR ME.
03:26:14 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
03:26:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE ALL WAVE?
03:26:17 [ LAUGHTER ]
03:26:21 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL SAID.
03:26:22 SHE'S A VERY NICE WOMAN.
03:26:23 >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
03:26:25 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:26:27 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:26:29 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
03:26:35 COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.
03:26:36 (CITY COUNCIL ADJOURNED)
03:26:38
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