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CITY OF TAMPA MEETING
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2019
5:01 P.M.


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17:04:26 >>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

17:04:29 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

17:04:34 BEGIN WITH OUR 5:01 PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE -- A

17:04:39 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM

17:04:41 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

17:04:41 WHAT HAPPENED?

17:04:46 WE HAVE A ROLL CALL FIRST.

17:04:53 [ROLL CALL TAKEN]

17:04:55 >> ALL RIGHT, NOW WE CAN GO TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

17:05:04 WHO IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE?

17:05:07 >> IS THERE A MEMBER OF STAFF PRESENT?

17:05:12 A STAFF PRESENTATION FIRST BEFORE WE BEGIN.

17:05:20 I DON'T SEE A MEMBER OF STAFF AT THIS TIME.

17:05:23 I CAN MAKE INQUIRY.

17:05:26 BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS AN ITEM THAT IS A WALK-ON THAT

17:05:29 COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE MEANTIME.

17:05:33 >> OKAY.

17:05:37 >> MS. MORA, ARE YOU HERE?

17:05:38 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:05:42 >> YIELD TO COUNCILMAN CITRO.

17:05:55 >> THANK YOU MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

17:05:59 MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL PEOPLE, COUNCILMEMBERS, WOULD YOU

17:06:02 PLEASE INDULGE SOME IN THIS.

17:06:07 THIS IS PERSONAL TO SOME.

17:06:11 THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I ASK LEGAL ADVICE FROM SAL OR













17:06:14 FROM MARTY OR OTHER PEOPLE, BUT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A

17:06:20 VERY SPECIAL PERSON THAT HAS GIVEN SOME OPINIONS, READ

17:06:23 SOME SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT OUR LEGAL IN OUR CITY.

17:06:27 AND THIS PERSON HAS HELPED SOME GROW OVER THE LAST

17:06:30 THREE YEARS.

17:06:34 EVEN THOUGH MS. MORA HAS BEEN WITH US JUST A SHORT

17:06:37 TIME AND IS LEAVING US TO GO ELSEWHERE, AND I HOPE THAT

17:06:41 SOME TIME SOON YOU WILL COME BACK, SHE HAS HELPED SOME,

17:06:45 AND SHE HAS ADVISED MANY COUNCIL PEOPLE MUCH LIKE

17:06:48 PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE HER.

17:06:50 SHE WAS ALWAYS THERE.

17:06:54 MAY NOT HAVE GIVEN US THE ANSWERS THAT WE WANTED BUT

17:06:55 ALWAYS MADE US THINK.

17:07:00 AND FOR THAT, I TRULY DO APPRECIATE IT.

17:07:03 YOU STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE AT.

17:07:03 [ LAUGHTER ]

17:07:09 BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN READING SO MUCH LATELY.

17:07:14 I REALLY NEED MY GLASSES.

17:07:20 MS MORA, I TRULY THANK YOU FOR THE KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE

17:07:22 GIVEN SOME.

17:07:26 AND AS ONE OF OUR OTHER LEGAL ADVISORS SAY, IF WE

17:07:29 ALWAYS LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES, WHEN I DIE, I WILL BE A

17:07:32 VERY INTELLIGENT MAN.

17:07:35 AND I THANK YOU FOR TEACHING SOME ALONG THE WAY.

17:07:39 YOU HAVE BEEN A HELP TO SOME, AND, AGAIN, OTHER COUNCIL













17:07:40 PEOPLE.

17:07:44 MS MORA, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CONGRATULATES YOU ON THE

17:07:47 ACHIEVEMENTS AS CITY OF TAMPA ASSISTANT ATTORNEY AND

17:07:51 WISHES YOU ALL THE WELL IN YOUR NEW CAREER OPPORTUNITY.

17:07:54 AND ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

17:07:58 KRISTIN HAS BEEN AN ENERGETIC PARTNER, AND HER

17:08:01 DEDICATION TO DETAIL AND SOUND ADVICE HAS SERVED THE

17:08:05 CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AS WELL AS THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED ON

17:08:10 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD SUCH AS MYSELF, SUCH AS

17:08:11 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

17:08:16 AND SPENT MANY HOURS WITH CITY COUNCIL ZONING AND LAND

17:08:17 USE CASES.

17:08:24 MS MORA, YOU HAVE HAD AN ENGAGING CAREER THUS FAR

17:08:26 FROM THE COMMUNITY PLANNER TO FLORIDA SUPREME COURT

17:08:31 INTERN TO VARIOUS ROLES WITHIN LOCAL LAW FIRMS.

17:08:35 YOUR STAY HERE AT THE CITY AND WE WISH YOU WELL IN THE

17:08:39 FUTURE.

17:08:41 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS TO YOU IN COMMENDATION

17:08:45 12TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2019.

17:08:48 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HELPED SOME AND CITY

17:08:50 COUNCIL WITH.

17:08:53 >>KRISTIN MORA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

17:08:57 [APPLAUSE]

17:09:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU HAVE FEW WORDS?

17:09:00 >>KRISTIN MORA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.













17:09:03 THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR KIND WORDS, AND THANK YOU ALL

17:09:04 FOR THIS.

17:09:06 THIS IS EXTREMELY SWEET AND THOUGHTFUL.

17:09:10 THE PLEASURE HAS BEEN MINE HERE THE LAST THREE YEARS.

17:09:13 ALL OF YOU ARE EXCELLENT PUBLIC SERVANTS.

17:09:18 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MOVED AND TOUCHED BY EVERYONE AT THE

17:09:21 CITY, HOW HARD THEY WORK, HOW DEDICATED THEY ARE TO

17:09:25 WHAT THEY DO, AND IT HAS BEEN MY DISTINCT PLEASURE TO

17:09:28 BE A PART OF THAT AND TO DO MY PART AS WELL.

17:09:30 SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THIS.

17:09:32 IT IS EXTREMELY KIND.

17:09:37 [APPLAUSE]

17:09:40 >> COULD YOU LET US KNOW IF THOSE COMMENTS ARE

17:09:43 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, PLEASE?

17:09:43 [LAUGHTER]

17:09:49 I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AS A NEWBY.

17:09:51 THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING SOME AND BRINGING SOME UP TO

17:09:53 SPEED AND ALWAYS BEING AVAILABLE.

17:09:55 IT WAS FANTASTIC WORKING WITH YOU, AND I WISH YOU ALL

17:09:57 THE BEST IN THE FUTURE.

17:09:59 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

17:10:00 >> THANK YOU.

17:10:03 AND KRISTIN, I AM GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SNAG YOU BEFORE

17:10:06 YOU HEADED OUT THE DOOR AND WELL-DESERVED COMMENDATION

17:10:08 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.













17:10:11 JOE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

17:10:14 I THINK BACK ON A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN I DIDN'T CALL

17:10:18 YOU UP TO THE PODIUM BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THE

17:10:19 ANSWERS YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE.

17:10:22 BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY BE A TRUE AND LEGAL RESPONSE NO

17:10:25 MATTER HOW I MIGHT FEEL ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE

17:10:26 NEED.

17:10:29 SO I KNOW YOUR CLIENTS AT TECO WILL BE WELL SERVED AND

17:10:32 I AM SURE YOU WILL BE SERVING THE COMMUNITY CONTINUING

17:10:33 IN MANY, MANY WAYS.

17:10:34 THANK YOU.

17:10:35 >>KRISTIN MORA: THANK YOU.

17:10:39 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

17:10:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS I SAID YESTERDAY IN THE MEETING, A

17:10:45 PLEASURE KNOWING YOU AND GETTING ADVICE FROM YOU, AND

17:10:49 JUST SEEING THAT YOU ARE A SWEET PERSON, YOU KNOW.

17:10:52 AND KNOWING YOU A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT WE ARE

17:10:53 GOING TO MISS YOU ALREADY.

17:10:56 I SAID YESTERDAY, GOOD LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVOR.

17:10:57 GOD BLESS YOU.

17:11:01 >> ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?

17:11:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:11:04 WHAT I LIKE THE MOST ABOUT YOU IS YOU NEVER BACKED

17:11:05 DOWN.

17:11:08 IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE RIGHT, YOU HELD YOUR GROUND.













17:11:12 AND YOU CAN'T ASK ANYONE TO DO IT BETTER THAN DID.

17:11:14 I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.

17:11:15 >> THANK YOU.

17:11:18 >> CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY SHELBY.

17:11:19 >> THANK YOU.

17:11:23 I WANT TO BRIEFLY SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE

17:11:27 PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR

17:11:29 CLIENTS, THE CITY COUNCIL.

17:11:36 YOU HAVE SERVED THEM PHENOMENALLY WELL AS ATTORNEY WITH

17:11:38 YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND I HAD A TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR YOU

17:11:41 IN YOUR OPINIONS AND ALSO YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.

17:11:44 AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND

17:11:46 PRIVILEGE TO WORK ALONGSIDE YOU AND WITH YOU FOR THE

17:11:49 BENEFIT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY

17:11:50 OF TAMPA.

17:11:51 >>KRISTIN MORA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

17:11:53 >> YOU ARE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO THE CITY OF TAMPA

17:11:54 FAMILY.

17:11:57 WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO MISS YOU.

17:12:00 VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WORK TIRELESSLY -- TIRELESSLY.

17:12:03 I HAVE SEEN YOU IN ACTION AND YOU ARE ALWAYS ON THE GO

17:12:06 NONSTOP AND A TESTAMENT TO ALL OF YOUR WORK.

17:12:07 LOOK EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE.

17:12:09 DO I SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THE BACK?

17:12:17 OUR NEW CRA ATTORNEY BACK THERE AND SO MANY OTHERS.













17:12:19 I THINK -- IS HE THERE?

17:12:20 ON THIS SIDE.

17:12:23 THE MAYOR WILL PROBABLY BE HERE BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE IS

17:12:24 OUT OF TOWN.

17:12:26 BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

17:12:27 THANK YOU.

17:12:28 WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.

17:12:29 WE WILL MISS YOU.

17:12:31 THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY.

17:12:32 THANK YOU.

17:12:35 >>KRISTIN MORA: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

17:12:42 [APPLAUSE]

17:12:45 >> ALL RIGHT, GOING BACK TO -- OH, I AM SORRY, BEFORE

17:12:50 WE BEGIN, COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.

17:12:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, LET SOME INTRODUCE ONE

17:12:56 OF OUR NEW INTERNS TO THE OFFICE, HALEY REEDY.

17:13:00 SHE IS MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND IN HER JUNIOR

17:13:04 YEAR AND WILL BE INTERNING WITH US FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

17:13:05 THANK YOU.

17:13:08 >> WELCOME ABOARD.

17:13:11 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, I STILL DON'T SEE SOMEBODY

17:13:11 FROM STAFF.

17:13:14 I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTACT THEM BECAUSE I

17:13:16 EXPECT THERE IS A PRESENTATION ATTACHED TO THIS.

17:13:20 IF THE COUNCIL WILL BEAR WITH SOME WITH A FIVE-MINUTE













17:13:21 RECESS.

17:13:24 >> WE WILL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS AS WE LOOK TO

17:13:25 STAFF TO START NUMBER ONE.

17:13:27 >> THANK YOU.

17:13:28 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

17:13:37 [RECESS TAKEN]

17:13:37

17:26:17 [ROLL CALL TAKEN]

17:26:20 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY.

17:26:24 WE ARE WAITING FOR MR. SNELLING FOR NUMBER ONE AND A

17:26:26 MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL 5:45.

17:26:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

17:26:31 >> ALL IN FAVOR.

17:26:33 >> IN RECESS UNTIL 5:45.

17:26:34 I APOLOGIZE.

17:26:37 ONE THOSE -- ONE OF THOSE NIGHTS -- DAYS.

17:26:39 WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL THEN.

17:26:43 RECESS UNTIL THEN.

17:26:44 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

17:49:05 [RECESS TAKEN]

17:49:05

17:49:08 >>> CITY COUNCIL IS CALLED INTO SESSION.

17:49:12 PLEASE, ROLL CALL SIR.

17:49:19 [ROLL CALL TAKEN]

17:49:22 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE













17:49:22 RECORD.

17:49:25 THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN OPENED ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

17:49:26 >> YES, SIR.

17:49:27 THANK YOU, SIR.

17:49:28 GO AHEAD, SIR.

17:49:31 >> FIRST OF ALL, THOM SNELLING, PLANNING AND

17:49:31 DEVELOPMENT.

17:49:35 I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE AT 5:01.

17:49:38 I APPRECIATE THIS BEING FIRST ON THE AGENDA.

17:49:42 I MISCOMMUNICATED WITH MY STAFF, AND I THOUGHT ONE MY

17:49:44 STAFF MEMBERS WOULD BE HERE TO DO THIS.

17:49:46 IT IS ACTUALLY A VERY SIMPLE CHANGE.

17:49:51 WE HAVE THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE ANNUAL ACTION

17:49:51 PLAN.

17:49:54 IF YOU RECALL FEW WEEKS BACK, I PULLED A COUPLE OF

17:49:59 ITEMS FOR THE PURCHASE OF 6.7 ACRES AND

17:50:03 THREE-AND-A-HALF-ACRE SITE OF VACANT LAND FOR THE

17:50:08 PURPOSE OF WORKING WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVENTORY

17:50:10 OF LAND, SO TO SPEAK.

17:50:12 WE HAD TO PULL THAT BACK BECAUSE ALTHOUGH YOU CAN

17:50:16 UTILIZE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT TO PURCHASE

17:50:19 LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT,

17:50:22 THE COMPREHENSIVE -- THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE

17:50:25 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN HAD TO REFLECT THAT IN THEIR GOALS

17:50:26 AND OBJECTIVES.













17:50:30 AND IN THIS CASE, THE FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN DID

17:50:35 NOT HAVE THAT AS A SPECIFIC GOAL TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO

17:50:38 STAY COMPLIANT WITH FEDERAL HUD REGULATIONS WE HAD TO

17:50:42 MAKE THAT MINOR ARRANGEMENT AND DO THE SAME THING WITH

17:50:44 THE GENERAL ACTION PLAN.

17:50:46 THAT ESSENCE, NO OTHER CHANGE.

17:50:55 ALMOST A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, IF YOU WOULD.

17:51:00 ON THE 19TH WHEN THOSE TWO PARCELS WILL LAND WILL COME

17:51:01 BEFORE COUNCIL.

17:51:05 I REMEMBER COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD SO MUCH

17:51:08 CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO HAVE

17:51:10 THAT CONVERSATION NEXT WEEK.

17:51:12 SO THAT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

17:51:13 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

17:51:20 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

17:51:23 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

17:51:25 >> AND BEFORE, IF I MAY, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC

17:51:29 HEARING TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1.

17:51:31 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

17:51:34 THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU.

17:51:37 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

17:51:40 MY NAME IS SHAWN WILSON, THE PRESIDENT OF BLUE SKY

17:51:41 COMMUNITY.

17:51:45 WE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, 5300 WEST

17:51:46 CYPRESS.













17:51:49 A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER, 37 WEST ROLLING STREET.

17:51:53 I AM THE PRESIDENT OR CHAIR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

17:51:56 ASSOCIATION WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF DALE MABRY

17:51:57 AND KENNEDY.

17:52:01 VERY SMALL BUT VERY VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION

17:52:04 AND WITH MIKE MARSHAL, OUR NONPROFIT PARTNER, THAT

17:52:07 WORKS WITH BLUE SKY AND WITH THE UNIVERSITY AREA

17:52:08 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

17:52:09 A COUPLE OF THINGS.

17:52:14 OF COURSE, I WOULD URGE TO YOU ADOPT THE AMENDMENT TO

17:52:15 THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

17:52:18 THE HCD STAFF DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

17:52:19 BY THE WAY, I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE AFFORDABLE

17:52:26 HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE KNOWN AS THE AHAC THAT MEETS

17:52:28 PERIODICALLY AT THE NEW PLACE ON LEMON STREET.

17:52:31 I WANTED TO GET A COUPLE OF THINGS OUT.

17:52:33 I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD SHOW UP AND WILL BE FACING

17:52:35 SOME, AND I WILL HAND THESE OUT.

17:52:45 THESE ARE SOME INVITATIONS TO A GROUNDBREAKING.

17:52:50 THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN THE CITY BUT CLOSE TO THE CITY,

17:52:54 AND WE WOULD URGE TO YOU COME TO THE GROUNDBREAKING AND

17:52:58 A SNEAK PEEK OF A PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT IS

17:53:01 ALMOST COMPLETE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT BLUE SKY DOES.

17:53:04 WE INVITE TO YOU COME TO ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES.

17:53:06 NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY.













17:53:09 DIFFICULT TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITES IN THE CITY

17:53:12 TO DO WHAT WE DO RENTAL HOUSING USING THE TAX CREDIT

17:53:13 PROGRAM.

17:53:14 EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE.

17:53:18 WE USUALLY USE SOMETHING CALLED THE 9% TAX CREDIT.

17:53:24 AND THERE IS ONE 9% TAX CREDIT PRODUCT PER YEAR IN

17:53:26 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHETHER CITY OR COUNTY AND THE LAST

17:53:30 TWO YEARS, THE CITY HAS GOTTEN THAT 9% CREDIT

17:53:31 ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE.

17:53:34 THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS -- IS RUNNING A COMPETITIVE

17:53:34 PROGRAM.

17:53:37 THEY ARE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO

17:53:39 SUBMIT A 9% APPLICATION.

17:53:42 IN THE PAST YEARS, THE CITY HAS ALWAYS GIVEN THE

17:53:47 FUNDING FOR A 9% APPLICATION TO THE THA PROJECTS EITHER

17:53:50 IN ENCORE OR WEST RIVER MOST RECENTLY.

17:53:52 WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL COME BEFORE THE CITY TO PRESENT

17:53:57 A POTENTIAL PROJECT THE 9% TAX CREDITS THIS YEAR.

17:54:01 WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS IT WILL BE.

17:54:03 SOMETHING HIGH IMPACT OR VERY EXCITING.

17:54:05 BLUE SKY DOES NOT HAVE A SITE.

17:54:08 WE DO HAVE A SITE IN THE COUNTY, AND IT IS 118 UNITS.

17:54:12 WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO SITES IN THE COUNTY, 118 UNITS AND

17:54:13 14 UNITS.

17:54:16 WE ARE GOING TO BE COMPETING FOR SOME COUNTY FUNDING













17:54:19 THAT WILL GIVE US THE EDGE IN THE 9% TAX CREDIT ROUND

17:54:20 IN THE COUNTY.

17:54:25 IF THE CITY DOESN'T GET A KNOCK-YOUR-SOCKS-OFF PROJECT,

17:54:28 DOESN'T GET A GREAT APPLICATION FOR YOUR FUNDING AND A

17:54:33 PROGRAM THAT VANESSA IS RUNNING, I WOULD URGE YOU TO

17:54:37 CONSIDER -- TO STAND DOWN THIS YEAR AND ALLOW THE

17:54:38 COUNTY TO GET THE FUNDING.

17:54:45 LIKE I SAID THE CITY --

17:54:46 [BELL RINGING]

17:54:48 >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

17:54:51 WHAT KIND OF HOUSING IS THIS, WORK FORCE HOUSING OR

17:54:52 LOW-INCOME HOUSING?

17:54:55 >> THIS IS -- A FEW DIFFERENT INCOME CATEGORIES HERE.

17:54:58 SOME UNITS -- IT IS RENTAL HOUSING.

17:54:59 >> RENTAL HOUSING.

17:55:02 >> AND THEY -- SOME OF THE UNITS ARE SET ASIDE FOR

17:55:07 HOUSEHOLDS AT 35% OF AMI OR LESS, WHICH IS VERY LOW.

17:55:11 AND THERE IS -- MOST OF THE UNITS ARE SET ASIDE FOR

17:55:15 HOUSEHOLDS AT 60%, WHICH IS KIND OF IN BETWEEN VERY LOW

17:55:16 AND LOW.

17:55:20 SO IT IS RENTAL HOUSING -- THE TARGET MARKET IS

17:55:26 HOUSEHOLDS -- WITH THE TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME FROM

17:55:28 $18,000 TO $35,000 A YEAR.

17:55:31 TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

17:55:34 >> THE REASON I ASK THAT BECAUSE RENTAL.













17:55:37 BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS READY TO BE A HOMEOWNER.

17:55:41 I AM HOPING THAT MR. SNELLING'S GROUP WILL LOOK AT THIS

17:55:44 TYPE OF DEVELOP AS RENTING BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS

17:55:46 READY TO BE A HOMEOWNER.

17:55:48 >> WE ARE EXCITED TO HEAR YOU WILL BE ACQUIRING

17:55:52 PROPERTY AND WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

17:55:56 AND WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THII --

17:55:59 >> LET SOME JUMP IN REAL QUICK AS A QUICK SIDE TO BUILD

17:56:00 ON THAT.

17:56:03 JUST BEFORE THIS, I WAS AT THE TAMPA HOMELESS

17:56:06 INITIATIVE AND SERVE ON THAT BOARD WITH ANTOINETTE

17:56:10 TRIPLET, THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER THERE.

17:56:14 THE THII ARE WORKING WITH THESE TWO GENTLEMEN WITH A

17:56:17 PILOT PROGRAM FOR AN ACQUISITION REHAB PROJECT.

17:56:20 AND THEY WILL THEN -- AT THAT POINT THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE

17:56:22 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A COUPLE MILLIONS DOLLARS TO PUT

17:56:25 OUT TO BID TO EXPAND ON THAT PROJECT.

17:56:28 AND NOW AS -- SHAWN?

17:56:28 SHAWN.

17:56:32 HE SAID THAT WHEN THIS PROGRAM GETS ON, THEN THOSE TWO

17:56:36 LOTS NEXT MONTH -- OR NEXT WEEK COMES BEFORE YOU IT

17:56:39 HAPPENED GOES FORWARD WILL GO THROUGH A RFP PROCESS AND

17:56:42 WHETHER IT ENDS UP SOMEBODY WHO BIDS ON IT AND COMES UP

17:56:45 WITH A GREAT RENTAL APARTMENT OR SINGLE-FAMILY

17:56:47 DEVELOPMENT, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.













17:56:49 WE HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH ALL OF THOSE DETAILS.

17:56:52 THE FIRST THING WE NEEDED TO DO WAS ACQUIRE THE LAND.

17:56:54 BEFORE WE COULD ACQUIRE THE LAND, MAKE DEALS CHANGE.

17:56:57 ALL KINDS GO FULL CIRCLE.

17:57:00 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

17:57:02 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION.

17:57:06 IF IT IS A LONG ANSWER WE CAN SCHEDULE IT FOR A LONG

17:57:06 TIME.

17:57:10 THE ISSUE FROM NONPROFITS AND OTHERS THAT WANT TO BUILD

17:57:12 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF LAND TO BE

17:57:18 ABLE TO DO THAT AND WITHIN MS MCCLEARY'S APARTMENT

17:57:21 BUT A THEORY BY SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT THERE IS LAND

17:57:24 THAT THE CITY IS BANK IN OTHER AREAS LIKE REAL ESTATE

17:57:27 AND OTHER AREAS THAT CAN BE TRANSFERRED OVER?

17:57:28 DO YOU KNOW --

17:57:31 >> PART OF -- WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ADVISORY -- THE

17:57:33 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY TEAM.

17:57:36 AND WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO WAS INVENTORY ALL

17:57:37 AVAILABLE LAND.

17:57:41 WE FINISHED THAT INVENTORY AND CAME UP WITHIN THE

17:57:43 NEIGHBORHOOD OF 40 LOTS AND NOT BANKING ANYTHING REAL

17:57:44 ESTATE.

17:57:46 WE CULLED THROUGH THAT, AND WE HAVE THAT LIST.

17:57:51 AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THAT GROUP AND WITH COUNCIL

17:57:55 TO SEE HOW BEST TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, BUT THE













17:57:57 SHORT ANSWER IS, NO, WE ARE NOT LAND BANKING ANYTHING.

17:57:59 THESE ARE LOTS THAT ARE SCATTERED.

17:58:03 MANY CAME THROUGH A PROCESS THROUGH THE COUNTY.

17:58:09 MANY ARE 40 X 80 OR 40 X 60 WHICH ARE CURRENTLY TOO

17:58:11 SMALL, AND I GO BACK TO THE OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT

17:58:12 TINY HOMES.

17:58:15 ONE OF THOSE SMALL LOTS COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR TINY

17:58:15 HOME.

17:58:18 CODE CHANGES TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH DENSITY IN THE

17:58:21 COMP PLAN, BUT STILL MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY.

17:58:24 AND I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO DO -- WHAT

17:58:27 THESE GENTLEMEN ARE TRYING TO DO GET MORE CREATIVE AND

17:58:29 THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

17:58:33 AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, NOT EVERYBODY IS READY FOR

17:58:38 HOMEOWNERSHIP AND MULTIFAMILY NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THE

17:58:42 TOOLS IN YOUR TOOLBOX -- I AM REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR --

17:58:44 WHETHER THEY ARE IN THE CITY OR COUNTY TO SOME DOESN'T

17:58:45 MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

17:58:50 BECAUSE IF YOU ARE SERVICING A POPULATION 35 AMI, AREA

17:58:53 MEDIAN INCOME OR 65% AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

17:58:56 THAT IS FABULOUS AND A BIG NEED FOR THAT.

17:59:00 THOSE ARE ABOUT AS POOR AS YOU CAN GET AND NOT BE

17:59:02 HOMELESS BASICALLY.

17:59:03 >> THANK YOU.

17:59:05 >> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE?













17:59:06 YES, SIR.

17:59:08 >> NICE COLOR SHIRT.

17:59:10 >> THANK YOU, YOU TOO.

17:59:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THOM -- AND THESE GENTLEMEN.

17:59:17 WHAT I HAVE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT IS MULTIFAMILY

17:59:19 OWNERSHIP.

17:59:23 IF THERE IS -- IF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR

17:59:25 THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY PROGRAMS FOR THAT.

17:59:29 BECAUSE AS MR. GUDES INDICATED, NOT EVERYBODY CAN

17:59:33 AFFORD, YOU KNOW, A HOME, A TRADITIONAL HOME WOULD BE A

17:59:37 SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE A TOWNHOUSE,

17:59:41 AN OWNED TOWNHOUSE TO GET THEM EQUITY BUILT UP BEFORE

17:59:43 THEY MOVE INTO A SECOND SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

17:59:48 SO I AM WONDERING, HAVE WE HAD ANY BUILT IN THE CITY OR

17:59:48 COUNTY?

17:59:50 MULTIFAMILY WITH OWNERSHIP?

17:59:53 >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

17:59:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND ANY PROGRAMS

17:59:58 STATE OR FEDERAL OR ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TYPE OF

17:59:59 INSTRUMENT?

18:00:02 >> WELL THEY DON'T -- IF I MAY.

18:00:03 >> JUMP IN.

18:00:05 >> THERE IS NO SPECIFIC PROGRAMS.

18:00:07 >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME IF YOU COULD.

18:00:10 >> SHAWN WILSON, BIG SKY COMMUNITIES.













18:00:13 >> TO THE COUNCILMAN, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY

18:00:18 PROGRAMS TO BUILD NEW HOMEOWNERSHIP MULTIFAMILY, BUT

18:00:21 WHAT THE CITY AND COUNTY DO HAVE ARE DOWNPAYMENT

18:00:24 ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND

18:00:30 A TOWNHOUSE FOR $150,000 TO $175,000 IF THEY EXIST OUT

18:00:34 THERE AND $200,000 AND GET NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE FOR

18:00:36 $10,000 OR $25,000.

18:00:42 NOT FOR THE 60% MEDIAN INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

18:00:45 YOU NEED TO BE IN THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR.

18:00:50 $45,000, $50,000, $55,000 PER YEAR HOUSEHOLD INCOME TO

18:00:55 AFFORD THAT AND A DIFFERENT TARGET MARKET THAN WE

18:00:55 SERVE.

18:00:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THINKING THE DEMANDS OF THE WORLD

18:01:02 ARE OUT THERE BUILDING THE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES

18:01:07 TO SELL AT A CERTAIN PRICE LEVEL, $170,000, OF WHAT

18:01:11 THAT IS, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO PARTICIPATE IN

18:01:16 BUILDING SOME MULTIFAMILY AT $120,000 OR SOMETHING, AND

18:01:19 THEN USE THE DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE ALSO.

18:01:21 >> WHICH, OF COURSE, WE CAN COMBINE.

18:01:24 YOU CAN DO THE -- THE CITY DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND

18:01:29 OTHER FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORP ASSISTANCE AS WELL.

18:01:31 BUT I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT COMES

18:01:35 OUT OF THE ADVISORY TEAM SIMPLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK

18:01:37 -- I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS OFF THE TABLE.

18:01:40 I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT TYPE OF A













18:01:44 PROJECT BEFORE, I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY

18:01:47 FEDERAL REGULATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS AGAINST IT THAT YOU

18:01:50 HAVE TO ONLY BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES, YOU KNOW WHAT

18:01:51 I MEAN.

18:01:55 I THINK A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE UNITS,

18:02:00 SIX, EIGHT UNITS AT A CLIP, JUST ANECDOTALLY, I CAN'T

18:02:03 THINK OF A SINGLE FEDERAL REGULATION AGAINST SOMETHING

18:02:04 LIKE THAT HAPPENING.

18:02:07 OF COURSE, VANESSA MAY BE WATCHING AND SAYING, WHAT ARE

18:02:08 YOU CRAZY.

18:02:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, GENTLEMEN.

18:02:12 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

18:02:15 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL BE QUIET AND LET US MOVE OFF TO

18:02:16 TO THE NEXT ONE.

18:02:20 THE ENCORE PROJECT STARTED 15 OR MORE YEARS AGO BUT A

18:02:21 LOT OF LAND ALL AROUND IT.

18:02:23 IS THAT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED?

18:02:24 WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT?

18:02:26 >> THEY ARE MOVING THAT ALONG.

18:02:28 THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT

18:02:31 AND THEY HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL COME OUT OF

18:02:32 THAT AS WELL.

18:02:34 THEY ARE BUILDING THAT IN PHASES AS THEY ARE COLLECTING

18:02:36 ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

18:02:39 >>BILL CARLSON: AND LAST THING.













18:02:42 WE HAD VANESSA COME TALK TO US ABOUT AFFORDABLE

18:02:46 HOUSING, BUT THAT IS WHAT OUR CITY COUNCIL HAD WITH THE

18:02:47 CRA HATS ON.

18:02:50 MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN TRY TO SCHEDULE

18:02:52 SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE BUT IT WILL BE GREAT -- I THINK

18:02:55 IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF WORKSHOP TO SEE

18:03:00 HOW THE CRA CAN BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE CRA

18:03:00 AGENCIES.

18:03:03 >> I WATCHED THE CRA MEETING THIS MORNING AND A LOT OF

18:03:05 THE CONVERSATION HAD TO DO WITH WHAT THE GOALS ARE FOR

18:03:09 THE CRA AND HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND

18:03:09 STUFF.

18:03:11 AND I THINK WE HAVE THE EVENT COMING UP IN EAST TAMPA

18:03:17 AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL -- IS IT -- IT IS OCTOBER 26.

18:03:19 HOUSING EVENT GOING THERE.

18:03:22 AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH AFTER

18:03:25 THAT GETS DONE AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO COME BACK

18:03:29 AND MAYBE COME TO A CRA MEETING AND DO SOMETHING LIKE

18:03:31 THAT.

18:03:32 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.

18:03:40 MR. SNELLING, YOU NEVER -- YOU MAY APOLOGIZE FOR

18:03:43 SOMETHING EGREGIOUS AND ALWAYS A GENTLEMAN.

18:03:45 NO APOLOGIES ARE NEEDED.

18:03:48 >> APPRECIATE IT, COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:03:50 >> OKAY, NEXT WE MOVE -- YES?













18:03:53 >> JUST A QUESTION, I -- JUST TO CONFIRM.

18:03:54 I AM SORRY I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM.

18:03:58 NO ADDITIONAL ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN ON THIS TONIGHT?

18:04:00 >> I WAS TOLD NO RESOLUTION.

18:04:01 >> A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

18:04:02 >> SO MOVED.

18:04:03 >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

18:04:04 >> SECOND.

18:04:08 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY

18:04:12 CITRO.

18:04:23 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY CITRO.

18:04:26 IF YOU CAN SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.

18:04:30 SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE QUASIJUDICIAL, STAND

18:04:35 UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO DO SO.

18:04:38 DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND

18:04:39 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

18:04:40 THANK YOU.

18:04:41 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

18:04:45 MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

18:04:45 OH, YES.

18:04:47 LET'S SEE.

18:05:06 IS IT NUMBER FOUR, EIGHT AND NINE.

18:05:08 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:05:14 ITEM NUMBER 4 AND ITEM NUMBER 9 ARE MISNOTICED, AND

18:05:16 THEY DID NOT FILE THEIR AFFIDAVIT, AND THEY WILL BE













18:05:17 RESCHEDULED.

18:05:22 ITEM NUMBER 8 SUBMITTED A LETTER OF CONTINUOUS REQUEST

18:05:28 TO CONTINUE TO THE NOVEMBER 14, 2019 MEETING AT 6 P.M.

18:05:29 >> YES, SIR.

18:05:32 >> IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF ITEMS NUMBER 4 AND 9 AS A

18:05:34 MOTION TO REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA?

18:05:38 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY

18:05:40 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:05:41 ANY OPPOSED.

18:05:44 >> I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER IS HERE ON NUMBER 8.

18:05:45 >> YES, SIR.

18:05:47 >> MR. DIMAIO.

18:05:52 >> NEED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, SIR.

18:05:58 JUST REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.

18:06:01 WE WILL DO WHATEVER TO MAKE THE CITY HAPPY.

18:06:03 >> NOVEMBER 14 A 6 P.M.

18:06:08 >> LET SOME ASK IF I MAY ANY -- IS ANYBODY HERE -- HERE

18:06:12 TO COMMENT SOLELY ON THE CONTINUANCE ON ITEM NUMBER 8,

18:06:19 2701 MISSISSIPPI AVENUE AND 1513 SOUTH ARRAWANA AVENUE

18:06:22 AND 1520 SOUTH HABANA?

18:06:35 SOLELY ON THE CONTINUANCE.

18:06:37 >> JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE.

18:06:39 NO FURTHER NOTICE OF THAT EVENT.

18:06:42 KEEP NOTE OF THAT DATE BECAUSE IF YOU WISH TO APPEAR

18:06:44 NOTHING FURTHER IN THE MAIL OR A POSTING REGARDING













18:06:45 THIS.

18:06:48 >> FOR THE RECORD, WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET

18:06:51 WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.

18:06:51 >> THAT IS FINE.

18:06:53 A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

18:06:56 >> MOVE TO CONTINUE NOVEMBER 14 AT 6 P.M.

18:06:56 A SECOND?

18:06:59 A MOTION TO CONTINUE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND A

18:07:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:07:03 ALL IN FAVOR.

18:07:04 ANY OPPOSED.

18:07:07 ANYONE IN THIS ROOM IS RESET TO, WHAT, NOVEMBER 14 AT 6

18:07:11 P.M. JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW.

18:07:17 THANK YOU.

18:07:24 >> MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING AND DESIGN.

18:07:31 ITEM NUMBER 2, SPECIAL USE FOR A DAYCARE AT 10701 NORTH

18:07:33 15TH STREET.

18:07:37 >> DID YOU SAY 15TH OR 14TH.

18:07:38 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:07:39 15TH.

18:07:41 THERE APPEARS TO BE A TYPO ON THE AGENDA.

18:07:42 SHOULD BE 15TH.

18:07:43 >> THANK YOU.

18:07:49 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, DAVID HEY WITH YOUR

18:07:49 PLANNING STAFF.













18:07:52 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

18:07:54 THE UNIVERSITY SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:07:59 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ADJACENT TO TRANSIT ALONG NORTH

18:08:00 15TH STREET.

18:08:05 TRANSIT IS PROVIDED BY THE HART ROUTE 42 THAT CONNECTS

18:08:10 THE SUBJECT SITE TO THE UCON CENTER AND THE CLOSEST

18:08:15 PUBLIC RECREATION IS COPELAND PARK THAT IS LOCATED 400

18:08:18 FEET TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, AND THE IS

18:08:24 LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.

18:08:25 WE HAVE THE AERIAL.

18:08:28 YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE CENTER.

18:08:29 THIS IS CHARM LANE.

18:08:31 THIS IS 15TH STREET RIGHT HERE.

18:08:37 YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER RIGHT OF THE AERIAL, THAT IS

18:08:40 CALLED BUD PARK.

18:08:41 IT IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.

18:08:45 THERE ARE SOME TOWN -- EXCUSE ME, DUPLEXES DIRECTLY TO

18:08:47 THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

18:08:52 THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL THROUGH THE SPECIAL

18:08:56 USE TO ALLOW FOR A DAYCARE FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY OF A

18:08:57 MAXIMUM OF 45 CHILDREN.

18:09:01 THE REQUEST OVERALL IS CONSISTENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD

18:09:04 SERVING USES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF EACH OTHER TO SERVE

18:09:06 THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS.

18:09:10 WHILE ONE POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS IS LOCATED ON A













18:09:13 COLLECTOR ROADWAY NORTH 15TH STREET, THE SECOND POINT

18:09:17 OF INGRESS AND EGRESS IS LOCATED ON THE LOCAL ROADWAY

18:09:21 WHICH IS CHARM LANE, WHICH REQUIRES APPROVAL OF A

18:09:21 WAIVER.

18:09:24 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THREE PARKING SPACES INSTEAD

18:09:29 OF THE 11 REQUIRED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

18:09:31 REQUEST FOR THE DAYCARE IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE

18:09:36 WITH THAT SURROUNDING PATTERN.

18:09:40 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAD CONCERNS THAT IT COULD

18:09:42 NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- THE SURROUNDING

18:09:44 NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:09:45 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REQUESTED THE APPLICANT

18:09:48 CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION

18:09:52 DIVISION TO MITIGATE THE -- ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS WITH

18:09:53 THOSE WAIVERS.

18:09:56 OVERALL, THOUGH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST WILL CREATE AN

18:09:58 ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL SERVE THE NEEDS OF

18:10:00 THE RESIDENTS OF UNIVERSITY SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:10:04 THE REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE

18:10:06 SURROUNDING AREA AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY

18:10:09 DIRECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:10:11 BASED ON THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE

18:10:16 REQUEST -- THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE

18:10:18 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:10:19 >> THANK YOU, SIR.













18:10:21 ANY QUESTIONS?

18:10:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

18:10:28 >> DAVID, I AM NOT SURE IF I SHOULD ASK YOU OR MARY.

18:10:32 I KNOW -- I KNOW IN, LIKE, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTEXT

18:10:33 WE ASK FOR POLICE REPORTS.

18:10:39 DO WE KNOW ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT HISTORY ON THIS?

18:10:42 BECAUSE APPARENTLY SHE WAS OPERATING THIS FOR A PERIOD

18:10:48 OF TIME SINCE SHE GOT APPROVAL IN 2008.

18:10:51 AND THEN IT STOPPED FOR 180 DAYS.

18:10:55 SO THAT'S WHY SHE IS BACK IN FRONT OF US AGAIN.

18:10:59 DO WE KNOW ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT OR OTHER TYPE OF

18:11:03 ENFORCEMENT HISTORY FROM THE PRIOR?

18:11:04 >> NO.

18:11:07 MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.

18:11:10 WITHIN EVERY REPORT THAT YOU SEE, A SECTION THAT SHOWS

18:11:14 CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES, PAGE 8 OF YOUR REPORT.

18:11:16 THERE HAVE BEEN NONE FOR THIS SITE.

18:11:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NONE IN TERMS OF --

18:11:23 >> NO FORMAL CASES ON THIS PROPERTY.

18:11:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW FAR BACK

18:11:27 THIS SEARCH WOULD HAVE GONE?

18:11:31 >> THIS SEARCH WOULD HAVE GONE BACK 20, 30 YEARS.

18:11:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REALLY?

18:11:33 OKAY.

18:11:35 THANK YOU.













18:11:43 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:11:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN

18:11:47 FOR A DAYCARE, 45.

18:11:50 IS THIS A HOUSE?

18:11:52 >> DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

18:11:56 IT WAS BUILT AS A HOUSE, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKED

18:11:57 LIKE WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE.

18:12:01 THEY ARE ASKING FOR THAT DAY CARE USE WITH 45 -- UP TO

18:12:02 45, CORRECT?

18:12:06 45.

18:12:07 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:12:08 IF I COULD MAKE MY PRESENTATION.

18:12:10 I WILL EXPLAIN.

18:12:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, I AM READY.

18:12:14 I WILL WAIT.

18:12:16 >> SORRY.

18:12:18 >> GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

18:12:19 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:12:24 AGAIN THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 10701 NORTH 15TH

18:12:24 STREET.

18:12:28 IT WAS APPROVED FOR A DAYCARE IN 2008.

18:12:31 CASE NUMBER V 08123.

18:12:34 THE PROPERTY OWNER WENT THROUGH PERMITTING AND CHANGED

18:12:38 THE HOUSE INTO A DAYCARE UNIT AND PUT ALL THE REQUIRED

18:12:40 INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARKING LOT AND DRIVEWAY CUTS IN













18:12:44 COMPLIANCE WITH THAT 2008 SITE PLAN.

18:12:46 SO IT WAS OPERATING AS DAYCARE.

18:12:49 AT SOME POINT, THE APPLICANT -- AND SHE CAN ANSWER THIS

18:12:54 DIRECTLY -- CEASED OPERATION OF THE DAYCARE.

18:12:58 IF YOU CEASED OPERATION FOR 180 DAYS, THE SPECIAL USE

18:12:59 EXPIRES.

18:13:03 NOW SHE IS BACK TODAY TO, IN EFFECT, TRY TO REINSTATE

18:13:10 HER SPECIAL USE APPROVAL FOR THE 45 CHILD DAYCARE.

18:13:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM LOOKING AT THAT ADDRESS, AND I

18:13:16 KNOW THAT AREA VERY WELL BECAUSE OF PROGRAMS ON 15TH

18:13:16 STREET.

18:13:21 SO -- THE ONLY PLACE HAVING A DAYCARE WOULD BE IN THAT

18:13:24 MIDDLE SECTION BETWEEN 109TH --

18:13:26 >> RIGHT HERE.

18:13:28 >> AND BOUGAINVILLA.

18:13:33 >> A VERY SMALL DAYCARE.

18:13:37 IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE AND THREE PARKING SPACES IN

18:13:37 FRONT.

18:13:40 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

18:13:43 SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE, AND IT WAS A

18:13:45 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.

18:13:49 AN ADA SPOT THERE AND TWO PARKING SPACES.

18:13:54 AS ONE WOULD DRIVE BY, IT WOULD READ LIKE A HOUSE.

18:13:57 BASED ON THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, AGAIN, THE

18:14:02 CONFIGURATION SOMEWHAT MATCHES THE 2008 PLAN; HOWEVER,













18:14:05 BECAUSE SHE IS IN TODAY -- SHE HAS TO MEET TODAY'S

18:14:05 CODES.

18:14:10 ONE OF THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO ACCESS

18:14:13 IS AN ARTERIAL COLLECTOR.

18:14:16 15TH STREET IS A COLLECTOR WITH THE ONE WAY IN, BUT ONE

18:14:19 WAY OUT ON CHARM LANE WHICH IS A LOCAL STREET.

18:14:20 THAT REQUIRES A WAIVER.

18:14:27 PARKING FOR DAYCARE, WE ASSUME WORST-CASE SCENARIO THAT

18:14:31 EVERY CHILD IS AN INFANT AND THE MOST CONSERVATIVE, ONE

18:14:32 STAFF MEMBER FOR FOUR INFANTS.

18:14:35 AND THE PARKING IS BASED ON NUMBER OF STAFF.

18:14:39 SO IN THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO FOR A DAYCARE OF 45

18:14:42 CHILDREN, ASSUMING THEY ARE ALL INFANTS WOULD REQUIRE

18:14:46 11 PARKING SPACES, AND SHE IS PROPOSING THREE.

18:14:49 OTHER THAN THAT, BECAUSE OF THE PARKING WAIVER AND THE

18:14:58 ACCESS TO CHARM LANE, TRANSPORTATION DID FIND THIS

18:15:03 CONSISTENT AND MINOR SITE CHANGES TO THE PLAN IF YOU

18:15:11 WERE TO APPROVE IT FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND

18:15:13 STORMWATER.

18:15:14 >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

18:15:16 >> ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE SECOND READING?

18:15:20 >> YES, SIR, A REVISION SHEET.

18:15:21 >> REVISION.

18:15:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:15:22 >> ANYTHING ELSE?













18:15:24 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:15:25 APPLICANT.

18:15:27 >> GOOD EVENING.

18:15:31 I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER 10701 NORTH 15TH STREET.

18:15:34 I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 22 YEARS.

18:15:38 I HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

18:15:40 I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:15:41 I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH MY NEIGHBORS.

18:15:44 AND I SEE A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.

18:15:48 I SAW THE NEED SEVERAL YEARS BACK, BUT DUE TO FAMILY

18:15:51 CONCERNS, I HAD TO PULL AWAY AND TAKE CARE OF SOME

18:15:53 FAMILY MATTERS.

18:15:53 NOW I AM HERE.

18:15:55 I AM READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

18:15:59 AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD LOVE TO OPEN UP A

18:16:01 DAYCARE CENTER.

18:16:04 ALSO IN REGARDS TO WHAT MS SAMANIEGO WAS STATING

18:16:08 ABOUT WORST-CASE SCENARIO FOR THE PARKING.

18:16:11 THERE IS NO DAYCARE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT IS

18:16:13 COMPLETELY INFANTS.

18:16:16 THE BUSINESS WOULD NOT LAST.

18:16:18 THERE IS NO REVENUE WOULD BE MADE.

18:16:21 THE OVERHEAD WOULD BE TOO HIGH DUE TO THE ONE TO FOUR

18:16:25 RATIO; HOWEVER, WITH THE DAYCARE OF THIS SIZE PROPOSING

18:16:29 APPROXIMATELY -- YOU KNOW, A MAXIMUM, I AM SORRY, OF 45













18:16:32 STUDENTS, THERE IS MORE LEVERAGE WHERE YOU WOULD BE

18:16:36 ABLE TO HAVE MORE -- ONE TEACHER WITH MORE STUDENTS.

18:16:40 LIKE -- MORE THE ONE TO 15 RATIO OR THE ONE TO 20

18:16:44 RATIO, OF COURSE, WITH OLDER CHILDREN.

18:16:45 SO THAT IS THE GOAL.

18:16:48 I HAVE WORKED IN CHILD CARE FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

18:16:51 I LIVED IN FLORIDA -- I AM A NATIVE OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,

18:16:52 ALL MY LIFE.

18:16:55 AND THERE ARE GROWING BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH

18:16:58 ZONING AND THEY ARE TRANSFORMING THEIR HOMES INTO

18:17:03 BUSINESSES WHILE PROVIDED JOBS FOR THE CITIZENS IN OUR

18:17:04 COMMUNITY.

18:17:08 SO I THINK BY -- CORRECTION, I KNOW BY HAVING THIS

18:17:11 DAYCARE CENTER, I WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO MY

18:17:16 COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING JOBS AND DEFINITELY BEING AN

18:17:18 ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.

18:17:22 I DO -- AS MARY STATED, I DO HAVE THREE PARKING SPACES

18:17:27 WHICH WERE APPROVED PRIOR TO THIS PARTICULAR

18:17:29 APPLICATION AND THAT IS GENERALLY HOW IT IS IN

18:17:30 DAYCARES.

18:17:35 I WORKED -- THE DAYCARES I WORKED ARE MOSTLY HOME

18:17:40 DAYCARES THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED THROUGH ZONING AND

18:17:43 GOING THROUGH THE EXACT SAME PROCESS AND USUALLY ABOUT

18:17:45 THREE, FOUR TEACHERS MAX.

18:17:49 AND A NUMBER OF THESE TEACHERS ARE LOW-INCOME TEACHERS













18:17:50 THAT DON'T HAVE CARS.

18:17:52 SOME RIDE BICYCLES TO WORK.

18:17:56 SOME USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND THERE IS ROUTE 42 --

18:18:00 OR BUS NUMBER 42 THAT GOES -- TRAVELS NORTH AND SOUTH

18:18:04 ON 15TH STREET, WHICH IS LITERALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF

18:18:06 THE PROPERTY.

18:18:07 >> THANK YOU.

18:18:08 ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?

18:18:11 >> NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

18:18:14 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD A QUESTION.

18:18:14 >> YES, SIR.

18:18:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I READ THROUGH SOME OF THIS AND

18:18:18 HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY.

18:18:20 TELL ME ABOUT HISTORICALLY.

18:18:24 YOU GOT THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL IN '08.

18:18:24 >> CORRECT.

18:18:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU OPEN AND IF SO FOR HOW

18:18:28 LONG?

18:18:30 >> I DID GET THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL AND I DID OPEN;

18:18:35 HOWEVER, I HAD SOME -- IT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE TIMING.

18:18:38 A BLESSING IT WAS APPROVED BUT UNFORTUNATELY I HAD

18:18:40 FAMILY CONCERNS THAT I HAD TO STOP WITH THE BUSINESS.

18:18:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW LONG WERE YOU OPEN BEFORE YOU

18:18:43 STOPPED?

18:18:46 >> HOW LONG WAS I OPEN BEFORE I STOPPED?













18:18:47 A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

18:18:48 JUST A FEW MONTHS.

18:18:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN CLOSED?

18:18:53 >> CLOSED EVER SINCE.

18:18:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BACK TO '08-'09, THIS KIND OF

18:18:59 THING?

18:18:59 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

18:19:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE -- TO BE HONEST, THE 45 CHILDREN

18:19:08 KIND OF BLOWS MY MIND IN TERMS OF AT A HOUSE LOCATION,

18:19:10 BUT I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR

18:19:12 BUSINESS, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

18:19:14 I HAD TROUBLE JUST WITH RAISING TWO.

18:19:18 BUT ANYWAY.

18:19:22 BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THE DROP-OFF

18:19:26 AND PICK-UP WITH THAT MANY POTENTIALLY THAT MANY

18:19:27 CHILDREN.

18:19:29 SAY YOU ARE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL.

18:19:32 YOU ARE PERMITTED UP TO 45 BY US AS WELL AS THE STATE

18:19:36 OR COUNTY OR WHOEVER DOES THAT PERMITTING.

18:19:39 SO YOU GOT THAT 45, AND THEREFORE POTENTIALLY 45

18:19:41 PARENTS COMING AND GOING.

18:19:45 HOW DOES THAT NOT DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

18:19:49 >> WELL, IT WOULDN'T DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE

18:19:54 WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE -- IT IS NOT ON THERE NOW -- BUT

18:19:57 THE WAY THE DRIVE -- THE WAY THE DRIVEWAY IS SET UP,













18:20:00 THEY ARE ABLE TO COME IN, DROP THEIR KID OFF.

18:20:01 IT IS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

18:20:02 AND THEY PULL OUT.

18:20:07 I WORKED AT SEVERAL CHILD CARE CENTERS THAT HAVE MUCH

18:20:11 LESS SPACE, TURNAROUND SPACE THAN I DO ON MY PROPERTY,

18:20:15 AND THEY ARE ABLE TO MANAGE QUITE WELL AND I WORKED AT

18:20:18 SEVERAL -- AT LEAST FIVE DIFFERENT CHILD CARE CENTERS

18:20:21 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT HAVE LESS SPACE, AND WE ARE

18:20:23 ABLE TO DO JUST FINE.

18:20:27 JUST FINE THERE.

18:20:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IS THERE LIKE A STANDARD TIME --

18:20:33 TIME PERIOD WHERE THEY -- WHERE THEY ALL CAME AT THE

18:20:34 SAME TIME?

18:20:34 >> ABSOLUTELY.

18:20:39 WE WOULD OPEN UP AS EARLY AS 6:00, 6:30, AND USUALLY

18:20:46 PARENTS HAVE TO BE TO WORK 7:30, 8:00, 8:30.

18:20:50 AND THE MAJORITY OF THE CHILDREN COMING IN BETWEEN 6,

18:20:52 6:30 AND 7:45.

18:20:56 OUR CURRICULUM STARTS AT 8:00.

18:20:59 THE CHILDREN WILL BE THERE IN THE CENTER DURING THAT

18:20:59 TIME.

18:21:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

18:21:05 HAVE YOU -- YOU SENT OUT THE NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

18:21:06 >> ABSOLUTELY.

18:21:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HEAR BACK FROM ANY?













18:21:11 >> I GOT FULL SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

18:21:13 THEY ARE LIKE, WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG.

18:21:15 THEY HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF ME IN THIS PROJECT FOR A

18:21:16 LONG TIME.

18:21:19 AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN THERE 22 YEARS.

18:21:24 AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ME GIVING ME ADVICE SO

18:21:26 THEY HAVE ALL -- THEY ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

18:21:30 I HAD NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS THE FIRST

18:21:33 TIME AROUND AND THIS TIME AROUND AS WELL ALONG WITH THE

18:21:35 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

18:21:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:21:38 >> YOU ARE WELCOME, SIR.

18:21:40 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:21:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AT FIRST THE 45 CONCERNED ME BUT I

18:21:45 KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL.

18:21:50 I GOT SOME PROPERTIES TWO OR THREE STREETS AWAY FROM

18:21:50 THAT.

18:21:53 AND I KNOW THE TRAFFIC ON 15TH STREET IN THE MORNING

18:22:02 AND THE AFTERNOON.

18:22:06 EXPLAIN THE PICK-UP PROCESS AGAIN?

18:22:08 >> ABSOLUTELY.

18:22:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING TIME.

18:22:13 >> IF A PARENT IS TRAVELING NORTH ON 15TH STREET,

18:22:16 THEY WOULD MAKE A RIGHT ONTO CHARM.

18:22:19 AND THEN GO INTO MY DRIVEWAY THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN --













18:22:23 YOU KNOW THE WAY THEY HAVE DONE BEFORE.

18:22:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:22:27 >> ABSOLUTELY.

18:22:29 >> ANYONE ELSE?

18:22:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:22:32 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

18:22:35 >> IF ANYONE IS HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER

18:22:38 2 -- I AM SORRY -- NO, ITEM NUMBER 2.

18:22:40 PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THE TIME.

18:22:42 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.

18:22:46 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN --

18:22:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE.

18:22:48 >> YES, SIR.

18:22:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF

18:22:53 SMALL BUSINESS.

18:22:54 OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

18:23:00 YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS AND TAKING ON A BIG TASK.

18:23:03 I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOU FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH.

18:23:07 BUT I WILL GIVE THE CAVEAT THAT IF AT SECOND READING

18:23:10 THERE IS OPPOSITION THAT SHOWS UP AND EXPRESSES CONCERN

18:23:15 ABOUT THIS DROP-OFF, PICK-UP AND THAT SORT OF THING, I

18:23:18 MIGHT HAVE TO RECONSIDER A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S JUST

18:23:23 ME, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE THAT YOU HEADS UP.

18:23:25 >> MR. SHELBY.

18:23:27 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD, A













18:23:32 LITTLE COLLOQUY AND DIALOGUE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:23:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

18:23:36 >> YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE PROPERTY NEARBY.

18:23:38 NOTHING WITHIN THE NOTICED AREA.

18:23:40 YOU RECEIVED NO NOTICE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR HEARING?

18:23:41 OKAY, THANK YOU.

18:23:46 AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO THAT OBVIOUSLY YOUR KNOWLEDGE

18:23:47 OF THE AREA.

18:23:50 YOU CAN STILL BE FAIR AND PARTIAL AND DECIDE YOUR

18:23:51 EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD?

18:23:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ABSOLUTELY.

18:23:54 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:23:57 MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR COUNCIL'S REMINDER A SPECIAL USE AND

18:24:00 NOT ON THE SHEET THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE IN FRONT OF

18:24:01 YOU.

18:24:06 YOUR CRITERIA LISTED ON PAGES 4, 5 AND 6 OF THE STAFF

18:24:07 REPORTS.

18:24:09 SECTION 27-132.

18:24:13 REGULATIONS GOVERNING SPECIAL USES.

18:24:14 THANK YOU.

18:24:15 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

18:24:16 ANYONE ELSE?

18:24:20 >> AND CAN I SAY SOMETHING, MA'AM, IF I MAY.

18:24:20 >> YES, SIR.

18:24:25 >> I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S SENTIMENTS THAT













18:24:26 THERE IS RISK.

18:24:28 I GUESS THERE IS RISK WITH EVERYTHING, BUT ESPECIALLY

18:24:31 GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SEEKING TO DO A DAYCARE

18:24:33 CENTER SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY BADLY NEEDED IN THE

18:24:34 AREA.

18:24:37 AN AREA OF WORKING FAMILIES.

18:24:37 THEY GO TO WORK.

18:24:41 THEY DON'T SEE THEIR KIDS FROM 7:30 UNTIL 5:00 AND THEY

18:24:44 NEED BUSINESSES LIKE YOURS.

18:24:47 YOU ARE FULFILLING A REAL COMMUNITY NEED IN THAT

18:24:48 COPELAND PARK AREA.

18:24:51 A SMALL BUSINESS LOOKING TO FULFILL A NEED.

18:24:55 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS FULFILLED RESPONSIBLY.

18:24:57 OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A HISTORY IN CHILD CARE AND YOU KNOW

18:24:58 EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

18:25:01 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MATTERS GOVERNED BY THE STATE.

18:25:04 THAT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AN ISSUE THERE.

18:25:06 TALKING MORE SO THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, THE

18:25:07 NEIGHBORHOOD FLOW ISSUES.

18:25:11 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FOR MY OWN PEACE OF MIND IF YOU CAN

18:25:14 MAYBE GO TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND INQUIRE WITH THEM AND

18:25:16 GET SOMETHING IN WRITING OR SOMETHING.

18:25:17 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

18:25:18 I WOULD LOVE TO.

18:25:20 >> I AM GOING TO BE VOTING YES AND NOT A CONDITION AT













18:25:23 THIS TIME, BUT SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.

18:25:26 >> HOW MANY LETTERS WOULD YOU LIKE?

18:25:28 THEY ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

18:25:28 >> 36 --

18:25:28 [ LAUGHTER ]

18:25:30 -- I AM KIDDING.

18:25:31 WHATEVER YOU CAN GET.

18:25:32 >> ABSOLUTELY.

18:25:32 >> THANK YOU.

18:25:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:25:34 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

18:25:37 >> YOU ARE FULFILLING A REAL NEED OUT THERE.

18:25:39 AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS AND I WILL, BUT THAT WOULD

18:25:42 HELP ME SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

18:25:43 THANK YOU.

18:25:44 OKAY.

18:25:47 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

18:25:50 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:25:54 ANY OPPOSED.

18:25:59 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU IN FAVOR READING THIS.

18:26:02 >> FILE NO. SU2-19-05.

18:26:06 ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 APPROVING

18:26:12 A DAYCARE IN AN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING

18:26:17 DIS10701 NORTH 14TH STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

18:26:21 FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1













18:26:24 HERE OF DESCRIBING A EFFECTIVE DATE.

18:26:29 >> IF YOU CAN AMEND THAT THE ADDRESS BEING 10701 NORTH

18:26:30 15TH STREET.

18:26:33 A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR.

18:26:36 IF YOU CAN MAKE AMENDMENT.

18:26:38 IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT.

18:26:40 YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL?

18:26:41 OKAY.

18:26:41 IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?

18:26:43 >> YES, PLEASE.

18:26:45 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

18:26:48 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF I AM RIGHT.

18:26:50 ALL IN FAVOR.

18:26:51 ANY OPPOSED.

18:26:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:26:55 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING AND

18:26:58 ADOPTION ON OCTOBER 3 AT 9:30 A.M.

18:27:00 >> MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.

18:27:01 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:27:12 ITEM NUMBER 3, REZ19-78 WEST LYME FROM RS-50 TO CN.

18:27:15 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, WITH YOUR PLANNING

18:27:16 COMMISSION STAFF.

18:27:18 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

18:27:20 WE REMAIN IN THAT UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS

18:27:21 NEXT CASE.













18:27:25 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE FOREST

18:27:28 HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:27:32 THERE IS TRANSIT AVAILABLE WITHIN THE AREA HART'S ROUTE

18:27:34 14 AND 45 SERVE THAT AREA.

18:27:38 THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE AND

18:27:41 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS THE FOREST

18:27:45 HILLS PARK COMMUNITY CENTER.

18:27:49 ON TO THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT

18:27:55 HERE LINEBAUGH, AND THIS IS FOREST HILLS PLACE GOING

18:27:56 NORTH-SOUTH.

18:28:00 THE PREDOMINANT AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.

18:28:04 THERE IS SOME LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND USES AS YOU START

18:28:05 GOING DOWN LINEBAUGH.

18:28:07 THIS IS ADAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL.

18:28:11 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE NORTH GATE BAPTIST CHURCH RIGHT

18:28:14 THERE.

18:28:17 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

18:28:24 THIS PORTION OF LINEBAUGH BASICALLY FROM FOREST HILLS

18:28:29 DRIVE WEST -- ACTUALLY EAST, SORRY, DOWN LINEBAUGH IS

18:28:32 THAT RESIDENTIAL 20 REPRESENTED BY THE BROWN.

18:28:35 TO THE SOUTH, FURTHER TO THE WEST, AND TO THE WEST IN

18:28:41 THIS KIND OF TAN COLOR, I GUESS, IS -- THAT IS THE

18:28:45 RESIDENTIAL 10, AND THE DENSITY GOES DOWN AS YOU GO

18:28:45 NORTH.

18:28:48 THE YELLOW IS THE RESIDENTIAL 6.













18:28:53 THE GREEN IS THE GOLF COURSE AT FOREST HILLS

18:28:58 REPRESENTING AN ERECT OPEN SPACE AND THE BLUE

18:29:02 REPRESENTS QUASI PUBLIC QUASI USES.

18:29:05 THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO GO TO THAT COMMERCIAL

18:29:11 NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT ON THIS .21-ACRE SUBJECT

18:29:15 SITE UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.

18:29:18 COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO MEET THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL

18:29:22 CRITERIA ADOPTED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:29:26 COMMERCIAL USES UNDER A RS-20 ARE TO HAVE DIRECT

18:29:33 CLASSIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL AND ACCESS TO WEST LINEBAUGH

18:29:37 WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS A COLLECTOR ROADWAY AND

18:29:40 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL CRITERIA.

18:29:44 OVERALL, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPARABLE AND

18:29:46 COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOUND

18:29:49 IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF

18:29:51 SUBJECT SITE ARE COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES AND TO THE EAST

18:29:54 IS A CHURCH, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL IS

18:29:59 LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

18:30:01 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

18:30:06 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE

18:30:10 IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:30:13 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

18:30:14 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:30:21 HERE IS AN AERIAL AND A ZONING MAP.

18:30:24 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE TO COMMERCIAL













18:30:25 NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:30:28 IT WAS PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS CJ TAVERN.

18:30:30 IT WAS THERE SINCE 1947.

18:30:32 SINCE THEN, THE BUSINESS HAS CLOSED.

18:30:35 INTERESTINGLY, ALONG THIS INTERSECTION OF FOREST HILLS

18:30:38 AND LINEBAUGH, IT IS KIND OF LIKE A COMMERCIAL NODE IN

18:30:40 THIS AREA.

18:30:43 IF YOU HAVE GOT AN OFFICE DIRECTLY TO THE WEST ACROSS

18:30:45 THE STREET, THERE IS ANOTHER OFFICE IN THIS LOCATION.

18:30:47 THIS IS A DENTAL OFFICE.

18:30:51 HERE IS A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

18:30:54 SO THERE IS A SMALL CLUSTER OF KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD

18:30:56 SERVING BUSINESSES AND OFFICES ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN

18:30:58 THIS AREA.

18:31:02 AGAIN, THEY ARE ASKING THEY BE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL

18:31:03 NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:31:09 THE EXISTING LOT MEETS THE CN ZONING DISTRICT.

18:31:12 I PROVIDED IN MY STAFF REPORT A LIST OF ALL THE

18:31:16 PERMITTED USES THIS WAS ALLOWED TO THE ZONING DISTRICT.

18:31:19 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED AND NO SITE PLAN

18:31:20 TO REVIEW.

18:31:26 THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY WANTING TO DEVELOP ANY CN USE

18:31:30 IF THEY MEET ALL APPLICABLE CODE.

18:31:34 THE PLANNING STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT

18:31:38 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.













18:31:39 >> ANY QUESTIONS?

18:31:42 APPLICANT?

18:31:43 >> COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.

18:31:47 MICHAEL HORNER, 502 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY,

18:31:50 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

18:31:52 MARY'S REPORT IS QUITE THOROUGH.

18:31:56 THIS PROJECT -- STRUCTURE HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1947.

18:32:00 CJ'S TAVERN WAS QUITE A POPULAR PLACE FOR YEARS.

18:32:02 A GOOD PLACE TO HANG OUT.

18:32:06 UNFORTUNATELY IT FELL ON SOME DISREPAIR AND FELL ON

18:32:08 SOME BAD TIMES.

18:32:09 THE PRIOR OWNER GAVE UP.

18:32:10 LEFT IT.

18:32:15 MY CLIENT, MS BECKETT, AND HER PARTNER BOUGHT IT.

18:32:16 THEY STUCK THEIR NECK OUT.

18:32:18 THEY PURCHASED IT WITHOUT HAVING THE LEGAL CONFORMING

18:32:21 ZONING CN WHICH IS NEEDED.

18:32:24 AND THEY HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH PERMITTING.

18:32:26 I WISH MARY HAD SHOWN ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS, AND

18:32:31 EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BRINGING MY CURRENT ONE, BUT DONE A

18:32:33 PHENOMENAL JOB.

18:32:37 ENTIRE STUCCO IMPROVED AND PAINTED.

18:32:38 LANDSCAPING IS BEING PROPOSED.

18:32:41 NEW WINDOWS.

18:32:44 TOLD ME IT TOOK A WEEK TO DEFOG AND DECONTAMINATE THE













18:32:45 INSIDE.

18:32:50 A HALF-INCH-THICK NICOTINE YELLOW LAYER AND TOOK A

18:32:52 SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY TO DO THIS.

18:32:54 IT HAS BEEN A MAINSTAY.

18:32:55 IT IS POPULAR.

18:32:57 SUPPORTED BY THE RESIDENTS.

18:32:58 NO LONGER A TAVERN.

18:33:01 THEY DON'T HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE TAVERN ASPECT, BUT

18:33:03 THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IMPROVE IT

18:33:06 AND BRING IT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USE.

18:33:07 WE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:33:09 NO OPPOSITION.

18:33:12 MY SURVEYOR WORKS DOWN THE STREET.

18:33:15 HE HAS HIS OFFICE TO THE EAST AND A GREAT LOCATION AND

18:33:17 EXCITED TO SEE SOMETHING COME BACK.

18:33:19 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

18:33:20 >> ANY QUESTIONS?

18:33:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

18:33:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL WAIT TO SEE IF THE PUBLIC IS

18:33:24 HERE.

18:33:25 >> I JUST HAVE ONE.

18:33:29 WHAT TYPE OF A BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE USED JUST FOR MY

18:33:31 OWN -- REHABBING IT RIGHT NOW.

18:33:32 SO IT IS OPEN.

18:33:35 IT DOES HAVE A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, SO THEY HAVE













18:33:39 REPLACED -- THEY ARE LOOKING FOR TENANTS ON THE BOTTOM

18:33:39 FLOOR.

18:33:43 THE TOP FLOOR USED TO BE AN OFFICE -- USED TO BE TWO

18:33:45 FLATS AND LOOKING TO CONVERTING THAT TO PROFESSIONAL

18:33:47 OFFICE SPACE ON SECOND FLOOR.

18:33:50 ONLY ABOUT A 2200-SQUARE-FOOT STRUCTURE.

18:33:51 >> OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.

18:33:53 ANYONE ELSE?

18:33:53 YES, SIR.

18:33:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ASSUMING --

18:33:56 >> LET'S FIRST.

18:33:59 ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 3?

18:34:01 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

18:34:03 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

18:34:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD EVENING, MR. HORNER.

18:34:22 THE CN USE HAS A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES.

18:34:23 -- I DIDN'T.

18:34:25 I AM LOOKING FOR BAR.

18:34:27 BUT WE MUST CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE.

18:34:30 WHAT DO WE CALL IT?

18:34:32 >> AN EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT.

18:34:35 >> WE CALL IT BAR LOUNGE.

18:34:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT ON THE LIST?

18:34:43 >> YES, SIR.

18:34:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BAR LOUNGE.













18:34:48 IS THAT ALLOWED IN THE CN?

18:34:48 >> IF I MAY.

18:34:52 NO, IT IS NOT ALLOWED USE IN THE CN ZONING DISTRICT.

18:34:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

18:34:57 WHAT -- I KNOW THIS ISN'T A PD.

18:35:04 WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY PER SE.

18:35:07 BUT WHAT IS THE PARKING SITUATION LIKE GENERALLY, MIKE?

18:35:09 >> PARKING IS OPEN RIGHT NOW.

18:35:10 THEY ARE REPLACING GRAVEL.

18:35:13 THEY ARE DOING OUTSIDE VEGETATION.

18:35:17 AND AN OPEN DRIVE CURVE ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE ALBANY

18:35:20 AND LINEBAUGH AVENUE.

18:35:21 NOT CHANNELIZED.

18:35:22 THEY BOUGHT IT AS IS.

18:35:24 A VERY SMALL SITE.

18:35:28 MR. DINGFELDER, AT .21 ACRES AND CAN'T DO A LOT OF

18:35:31 INTENSIVE USES IN THERE FOR THE PARKING ISSUE.

18:35:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT -- I KNOW THAT MARY MENTIONED

18:35:36 OTHER ACTIVITIES ON THAT CORNER.

18:35:40 HOW ABOUT NEXT DOOR ON LINEBAUGH?

18:35:43 OR ON FOREST HILLS FOR THAT MATTER?

18:35:51 >> YEAH, THERE IS CHURCHES NORTHEAST.

18:35:53 A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING TO THE WEST.

18:35:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS ACROSS FOREST HILLS?

18:36:01 I GUESS I AM THINKING TO THE -- ON LINEBAUGH TO THE













18:36:02 EAST?

18:36:08 >> TO THE EAST, WE HAVE EDS OFFICE DESIGN STUDIO, SMITH

18:36:10 SURVEYING, AND OTHER SCATTERED USES.

18:36:15 A SMALL -- I THINK A DAYCARE CENTER.

18:36:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOING SOUTH ON FOREST HILLS.

18:36:22 >> SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.

18:36:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE BACK, SINGLE-FAMILY?

18:36:27 >> AND VERY STRONG SUPPORTERS I MIGHT ADD.

18:36:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU.

18:36:30 >> THANK YOU.

18:36:30 >> ANYONE ELSE?

18:36:34 THANK YOU, SIR.

18:36:40 TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:36:43 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, TAKE ITEM 3.

18:36:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NO. REZ19-78.

18:36:50 TO BE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING.

18:36:55 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1318 WEST

18:36:58 LINEBAUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND

18:37:01 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING

18:37:05 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY

18:37:08 TO CN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

18:37:09 DATE.

18:37:12 THE PETITION HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR COMPETENT

18:37:14 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND THE CONDITION SHOWN ON THE

18:37:18 SITE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY













18:37:18 CODE.

18:37:19 I KNOW THE PLACE.

18:37:20 I DON'T DRINK.

18:37:22 I HAVE BEEN THERE A COUPLE OF TIME HAVING A SANDWICH

18:37:25 AFTER PLAYING GOLF -- I USED TO GOLF.

18:37:31 I QUIT GOING THERE BECAUSE I USED TO WIN ALL THE TIME.

18:37:34 [ LAUGHTER ]

18:37:37 >> BEFORE MR. DINGFELDER, A SECOND.

18:37:38 >> SECOND.

18:37:39 >> COUNCILMAN, SOMETHING TO SAY, SIR.

18:37:41 >> YEAH, TWO THINGS.

18:37:44 SPEAKING OF GOLF, MADE THE MISTAKE OF GOLFING WITH

18:37:47 CITRO, AND HE IS VERY GOOD.

18:37:49 SO DON'T GOLF WITH HIM.

18:37:50 >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

18:37:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE WERE IN OFFICE TOGETHER.

18:37:56 SO -- I GUESS I -- I DON'T SEE ANY PARTICULAR REASON TO

18:37:57 NOT SUPPORT THIS.

18:38:02 I WILL POINT OUT FOR COUNCIL'S EDIFICATION THAT MEDICAL

18:38:07 MARIJUANA DISPENSARY IS AN ALLOWABLE USE AT CN AT THAT

18:38:11 CORNER SHOULD IT BE APPROVED BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I

18:38:13 HAVE TO SAY.

18:38:15 >> WELL --

18:38:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, MAYBE WE WILL ASK IN THE

18:38:19 SECOND HEARING.













18:38:19 >> WELL SAID.

18:38:21 THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, SIR.

18:38:25 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:38:27 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND.

18:38:28 ALL IN FAVOR.

18:38:29 ANY OPPOSED.

18:38:32 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING ON

18:38:35 OCTOBER 3 AND ADOPTION AT 9:30 A.M.

18:38:37 >> BE READY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SIR.

18:38:42 THANK YOU.

18:38:46 >> MARY -- ITEM NUMBER 5.

18:38:51 MARY SAMANIEGO, FILE NO. REZ19-83.

18:38:54 REZONING FROM WEST WATERS FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL RS-50

18:38:58 TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

18:39:01 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, YOUR PLANNING

18:39:02 COMMISSION STAFF.

18:39:03 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

18:39:07 REMAIN IN THAT UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS

18:39:08 NEXT CASE.

18:39:12 MORE SPECIFICALLY THIS SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED BEEN THE

18:39:15 LOWRY PARK CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:39:18 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN THE AREA ON WATERS.

18:39:24 HART ROUTE 16 CONNECTS THE SUBJECT SITE TO THE UCON AND

18:39:28 NORTHWEST TRANSFER CENTERS, AND THE SUBJECT CENTER IS

18:39:31 LOCATED WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE E.













18:39:34 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.

18:39:39 THIS IS NORTH ALBANY GOING NORTH-SOUTH.

18:39:40 WATERS.

18:39:43 YOU CAN SEE THIS SECTION OF WATERS HAS A LOT OF

18:39:44 COMMERCIAL USES.

18:39:46 THERE ARE APARTMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH.

18:39:50 THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DIRECTLY TO THE EAST

18:39:53 OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND TO THE SOUTH.

18:39:58 THIS IS A LARGE TECO SUBSTATION.

18:40:03 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL

18:40:07 THESE PROPERTIES IN RED ARE THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL

18:40:10 35 THAT ALLOWS CONSIDERING UP TO THAT CI ZONING

18:40:11 DISTRICT.

18:40:14 TO THE NORTH WHERE THOSE APARTMENTS WERE IN THIS KIND

18:40:18 OF LAVENDER COLOR, I GUESS, THAT IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED

18:40:22 USE 35, THAT ALLOWS UP TO CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.

18:40:26 TO THE SOUTH IN THAT TAN COLOR IS ALL THE RESIDENTIAL

18:40:33 10, WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.

18:40:37 THE APPLICATION IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THIS SUBJECT --

18:40:40 THIS SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS 2.15 ACRES TO THAT

18:40:44 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT.

18:40:47 THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 DESIGNATION IS PRESENT

18:40:48 ALONG THIS PORTION.

18:40:51 THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE INTERFACE

18:40:54 PARCELS WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 WHICH HAVE BEEN













18:40:57 DEVELOPED TO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.

18:40:59 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ENCOURAGES THE APPLICANT TO

18:41:03 APPROPRIATELY BUFFER THE SUBJECT SITE FROM

18:41:05 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS ON THE

18:41:09 SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AND ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE

18:41:11 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS BASED ON LAND USE

18:41:14 POLICY 15.2.4.

18:41:16 OVERALL THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT OF THE CHARACTER OF THE

18:41:19 AREA AND THE POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE

18:41:20 PLAN.

18:41:21 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE

18:41:25 PROPOSED REZONING IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE

18:41:29 LOWRY PARK CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOES RECOMMEND THAT

18:41:33 THIS REZONING REQUEST BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE

18:41:35 PROVISIONS OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:41:43 THANK YOU.

18:41:44 >> THANK YOU, DAVID.

18:41:45 MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:41:47 AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING A REZONING TO COMMERCIAL

18:41:48 INTENSIVE.

18:41:50 THE PROPERTY IS 2.15 ACRES.

18:41:54 IT IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A WAREHOUSE USE, FORMALLY

18:42:00 THE TENT RENTAL WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1954.

18:42:02 AS DAVID INDICATED IN A LAND USE CATEGORY WHICH SEEKS

18:42:05 TO TRANSITION PROPERTIES UP TO THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE













18:42:09 ZONING DISTRICT OF WHICH THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.

18:42:12 HERE IS A ZONING MAP TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.

18:42:15 DAVID HAD INDICATED THERE ARE APARTMENT BUILDING IN THE

18:42:20 RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST WATERS

18:42:21 AVENUE.

18:42:24 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED.

18:42:28 SMALL WAREHOUSING AND OFFICE USES DIRECTLY TO THE WEST

18:42:30 AS WELL AS AN OFFICE USE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST ACROSS

18:42:34 ALBANY AVENUE ALL WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING

18:42:34 DISTRICT.

18:42:38 AND THEN IT GOES TO THE RS-50 SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING

18:42:43 DISTRICT ACROSS ALBANY TO THE WEST -- SORRY, TO THE

18:42:44 EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.

18:42:48 THERE IS NO SITE PLAN TO REVIEW.

18:42:51 IF THIS PROJECT WAS TO BE APPROVED AND REDEVELOPED, THE

18:42:54 SITE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE THROUGH CHANGE OF

18:42:57 USE THROUGH PERMITTING AND APPLY TO ALL THE APPLICABLE

18:42:59 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

18:43:03 ALL OF THE POTENTIAL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE CI

18:43:05 ZONING DISTRICT ARE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

18:43:08 I WILL REMIND CITY COUNCIL WHEN YOU APPROVE AN

18:43:12 EUCLIDIAN REZONING TO A SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT, YOU

18:43:16 ARE CONSIDERING ANY USE THAT IS ALLOWED OR PERMISSIBLE

18:43:19 WITHIN THAT ZONING DISTRICT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS

18:43:19 SITE.













18:43:22 SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF FOUND IN

18:43:24 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT

18:43:24 CODE.

18:43:27 DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?

18:43:31 >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD?

18:43:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

18:43:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MA'AM.

18:43:42 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF MENTIONED ABOUT BUFFERING.

18:43:44 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TERM YOU USED DAVID.

18:43:50 ENCOURAGE BUFFERING.

18:43:51 OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.

18:44:00 LET'S SAY THE PROJECT WAS REDEVELOPED AND LOOKING AT

18:44:01 THE AERIAL.

18:44:04 LET'S SAY THEY START CLEARING OUT SOME TREES AND ADDING

18:44:06 BUILDINGS.

18:44:35 IT'S SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING, A SIX-FOOT-HIGH

18:44:43 MASONRY WALL, OR A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

18:44:47 A COMBINATION OF TREES AND SHRUBS.

18:44:49 SO ONE OR THE OTHER.

18:44:50 >> OKAY, OKAY.

18:44:53 AND THIS WOULD ONLY KICK IN IF THEY STARTED CHANGING

18:44:56 THINGS OR ADDING BUILDINGS OR THAT SORT OF THING.

18:44:58 >> RIGHT, ANY CHANGE OF USE WILL REQUIRE COMPLIANCE

18:45:05 WITH LANDSCAPING AND PARKING AND ALL PROJECTS.

18:45:07 >> BUT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING?













18:45:11 >> CONTINUE TO OPERATE IT AS A WAREHOUSE USE, CORRECT.

18:45:12 >> I MISSED THE BEGINNING.

18:45:15 YOU SAID VERY QUICKLY WHAT THE OPERATION IS CURRENTLY,

18:45:18 AND IT HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

18:45:21 >> TAMPA TENT RENTAL.

18:45:23 SINCE 1954.

18:45:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

18:45:25 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:45:27 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS?

18:45:28 NO?

18:45:32 APPLICANT.

18:45:36 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, MIKE HORNER, REPRESENTING

18:45:38 THE APPLICANT.

18:45:39 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

18:45:41 GOOD QUESTIONS.

18:45:44 MY CLIENTS HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR DECADES.

18:45:47 IT HAS NUMEROUS WAREHOUSE STRUCTURES THAT ARE

18:45:52 NONCONFORMING BECAUSE CG ALLOWED THEM AT ONE TIME.

18:45:55 CG NO LONGER ALLOW WAREHOUSES.

18:45:58 THESE STRUCTURES ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.

18:46:00 THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.

18:46:02 THERE ARE MULTIPLE SUPPORT STRUCTURES THAT ARE EQUALLY

18:46:04 IN POOR SHAPE.

18:46:08 MY CLIENT INTENDS TO BUILD ONE, MAYBE TWO. BRAND-NEW

18:46:09 WAREHOUSES.













18:46:11 IT IS THE TAMPA TENT RENTAL OPERATION.

18:46:13 A GOOD TENANT.

18:46:14 THEY WANT TO CONSOLIDATE THEIR OPERATION.

18:46:19 IN TERMS OF SINGLE-FAMILY BUFFERING.

18:46:21 WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH LAND DEVELOPMENT AND SITE REVIEW

18:46:25 AND MEET THE BUFFER FOR THE LANDSCAPING.

18:46:28 WE ARE THE END CAP OF CC 35.

18:46:33 AND I MIGHT ALSO ADD MY CLIENT OWNS THE FOUR

18:46:36 RESIDENTIAL RS-50 TO THE SOUTH.

18:46:40 HE NOT ONLY IS AN INVESTED COMMERCIAL BUT ALSO

18:46:41 RESIDENTIAL.

18:46:44 ANYONE THAT WOULD BE CONCERNED OF THAT INTERFACE, MY

18:46:47 CLIENT HAS THOSE HOUSES AND OWNS THEM AND HAS INVESTED

18:46:49 SUBSTANTIALLY IN THEM.

18:46:53 I AM ON WATERS AVENUE -- I JUST REALIZED THAT I

18:46:56 REFERENCED ALBANY AVENUE IN THE LAST CASE, NOT FOREST

18:46:56 HILLS.

18:46:58 I HAD THIS ON MY MIND.

18:47:00 THE LAST ONE THAT I LOOKED AT.

18:47:03 LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE PREVIOUS CASE WAS ON

18:47:07 FOREST HILLS AND NOT ALBANY THAT THIS CASE IS IN.

18:47:08 >> WE SAW THAT.

18:47:10 WE IGNORED YOU, MIKE.

18:47:11 >> WE FORGIVE YOU.

18:47:12 >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.













18:47:15 MY CLIENT REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBOR.

18:47:16 WE HAD ONE CALL.

18:47:20 TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE FOLLOWING RULES AND REGS.

18:47:22 NO OPPOSITION.

18:47:26 UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF PLANNING POLICIES.

18:47:28 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

18:47:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.

18:47:33 INGRESS AND EGRESS.

18:47:37 I KNOW, AGAIN NOT A PD SO NOT EXACTLY LIKE WE CAN

18:47:41 CONTROL IT, BUT WHAT IS THE CURRENT INGRESS AND EGRESS

18:47:42 TO THE -- TO THE OPERATION?

18:47:44 >> WATERS AVENUE IS THE PRIMARY.

18:47:48 ONE DRIVEWAY TO ALBANY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT PROCEED WITH

18:47:51 THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENT.

18:47:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE IS A DRIVEWAY TO ALBANY GOING

18:47:56 OUT SO THE SINGLE-FAMILY?

18:47:59 >> A SIX FOOT WALL ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND ONE

18:48:02 DRIVEWAY, CORRECT.

18:48:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

18:48:04 >> THANK YOU.

18:48:05 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

18:48:06 OKAY.

18:48:10 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 5, IF

18:48:12 SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

18:48:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUICK QUESTION.













18:48:17 >> GO AHEAD, SIR.

18:48:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARY, WITH REGARDS TO -- I GUESS IT

18:48:25 IS NOT EXACTLY BUFFER, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH THAT

18:48:28 INGRESS, EGRESS ALONG ALBANY.

18:48:31 ANY LIMITATION ON THAT CI AS RELATED TO THOSE

18:48:37 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET?

18:48:39 >> JONATHAN, THAT SECTION OF ALBANY.

18:48:42 DO YOU KNOW THE CLASSIFICATION, SIR?

18:48:44 ALBANY SOUTH OF WATERS?

18:48:47 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

18:48:50 A LOCAL SCREEN, YES.

18:48:51 >> THANK YOU, JONATHAN.

18:48:55 THE CODE SAYS THAT COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC DOES NOT BY RIGHT

18:48:57 HAVE ACCESS TO LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

18:49:02 SO IN ORDER TO GET -- A NEW DRIVEWAY CUT, IF TO GO

18:49:05 THROUGH THE CHANGE OF USE PROCESS IT WOULD HAVE TO COME

18:49:10 IN FOR A PD OR SOME TECHNICAL DESIGN, AND A DRIVEWAY

18:49:10 CUT.

18:49:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAY A NEW DRIVEWAY.

18:49:16 MICHAEL INDICATED AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY.

18:49:16 >> CORRECT.

18:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IF THERE IS A CHANGE OF USE,

18:49:21 WOULD YOU CONSIDER A NEW DRIVEWAY?

18:49:21 >> CORRECT.

18:49:26 IF IT DOES -- THE WAREHOUSE -- THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE













18:49:31 CAN KEEP THE DRIVEWAY IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED.

18:49:33 IF A NEW WAREHOUSE COMES IN.

18:49:35 IF A MEDICAL MARIJUANA USE GOES IN.

18:49:36 THAT IS A CHANGE OF USE.

18:49:40 THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REEVALUATION OF ALL -- IT IS

18:49:42 ON MY BRAIN.

18:49:45 IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A REEVALUATION OF ALL DRIVEWAY

18:49:48 CUTS AND THE PROVISION THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A COMMERCIAL

18:49:51 CUT ON A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET KICK IN.

18:49:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THAT -- OKAY.

18:49:53 I GET THAT THEN.

18:49:57 BUT THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO BUFFERING TO WHAT YOU SAID

18:49:58 EARLIER.

18:50:00 >> TWO DIFFERENT CODE ENVIRONMENTS.

18:50:04 >> THEY PUT A NEW WAREHOUSE ON THERE THAT WOULD KICK IN

18:50:07 THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENT?

18:50:08 >> IF THEY PUT A NEW --

18:50:11 >> THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TEAR DOWN THE OLD WAREHOUSE AND

18:50:13 BUILD A NEW WAREHOUSE.

18:50:13 >> YES.

18:50:15 ANOTHER PROVISION IN THE CODE IF YOU HAVE MAJOR

18:50:21 RECONSTRUCTION, THEN ALL BUFFERING, PARKING AND

18:50:23 LANDSCAPE PROVISIONS SHALL APPLY.

18:50:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

18:50:25 >> ANYONE ELSE?













18:50:27 OKAY, A MOTION APPROVED --

18:50:29 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST --

18:50:31 >> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.

18:50:34 MY CLIENT IS AWARE OF THAT RETROFIT REQUIREMENT AND

18:50:39 PREPARED TO UPDATE THE SITE AND YOU NOT MEET ANY

18:50:43 CURRENT REQUIREMENTS.

18:50:46 >> MOTION TO CLOSE, ALL IN FAVOR.

18:50:46 ANY OPPOSED?

18:50:47 OKAY.

18:50:50 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:50:52 WILL YOU TAKE ON ITEM NUMBER 5.

18:50:52 >> YES, SIR.

18:50:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

18:51:00 CASE NUMBER FILE NO. REZ19-83.

18:51:03 MOVE FOR AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

18:51:07 VICINITY OF 2102 WEST WATER AVENUE IN THE CITY OF

18:51:10 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

18:51:14 SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL

18:51:19 -- CLASSIFICATIONS, CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RS-50

18:51:22 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE

18:51:25 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

18:51:29 THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE

18:51:31 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE HEARING THAT THE

18:51:34 REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH

18:51:39 NO WAIVERS AND IT IS IN A MIXED USE AREA.













18:51:40 >> SECOND.

18:51:44 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

18:51:45 MIRANDA.

18:51:46 ALL IN FAVOR.

18:51:47 ANY OPPOSED.

18:51:50 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

18:51:56 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OCTOBER 3 AT 9:30 A.M.

18:51:59 >> ITEM NUMBER 6.

18:52:02 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:52:05 FILE NO. REZ19-90.

18:52:10 WEST JULIA STREET FROM RS-60 TO RM-24.

18:52:12 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

18:52:14 DAVID HAY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

18:52:17 WE MOVE TO THE SOUTH PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS NEXT

18:52:18 CASE.

18:52:21 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED BEEN THE BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL

18:52:22 NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:52:25 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN THE AREA.

18:52:30 THE CLOSEST STOP IS AT MACDILL AND EL PRADO.

18:52:31 LET'S SEE.

18:52:37 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS FRED BALL

18:52:39 PARK AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL

18:52:43 EVACUATION ZONE B.

18:52:44 ON TO THE AERIAL.

18:52:47 YOU CAN SEE -- HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.













18:52:50 THIS IS JULIA.

18:52:53 JULIA MOSTLY HAS TOWN HOMES.

18:52:56 THIS IS WHERE THE COLONY RESTAURANT WAS WHICH IS NOW

18:52:58 THAT 20-STORY TOWER.

18:53:02 THERE IS ALL -- EITHER MULTIFAMILY OR TOWN HOMES ALL

18:53:04 WITHIN THIS AREA HERE.

18:53:09 THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED REALLY DOESN'T KICK IN UNTIL

18:53:17 THE PARCELS ON JULIA CIRCLE ON EAST -- WEST OF MACDILL

18:53:19 AVENUE.

18:53:22 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

18:53:26 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT IN THE CENTER.

18:53:28 THIS IS MACDILL.

18:53:30 THIS IS CROSSTOWN.

18:53:31 OF COURSE, THIS IS BAYSHORE.

18:53:34 THIS BROWN COLOR IS THE RESIDENTIAL 35 THAT ALLOWS UP

18:53:36 TO 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

18:53:43 WHERE THE COLONNADE IS IN THE DARK BROWN, THE

18:53:44 RESIDENTIAL 83.

18:53:48 THE MOST INTENSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN ALL OF THE

18:53:49 CITY OF TAMPA.

18:53:53 FURTHER, IT -- THE DENSITY STARTS GOING DOWN AS YOU GET

18:53:54 DOWN NEAR EL PRADO.

18:53:56 THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL 20.

18:54:00 AND THEN WHERE THAT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PICKED UP,

18:54:03 THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL 10 IN THAT TAN.













18:54:10 OF COURSE THE BLUE REPRESENTS PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC.

18:54:15 THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REZONE TO THAT RM-24 ON THE

18:54:17 .11-ACRE SITE.

18:54:21 THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS

18:54:22 PRESENT.

18:54:24 MULTIFAMILY IS ENCOURAGED WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL 35

18:54:28 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY TO PROVIDE A HIGHER DENSITY

18:54:31 WITH GREATER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS DESIRED, THAT

18:54:35 IS BASED ON LAND USE POLICY 9.6.3.

18:54:39 OVERALL, THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY

18:54:42 ENCOURAGES COMPACT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOP COMPARABLE

18:54:45 WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

18:54:49 THE REQUESTED ZONING DISTRICT IS -- WOULD BE CONSISTENT

18:54:52 WITH THOSE POLICIES IN PORTION OF WEST JULIA STREET ON

18:54:56 THE PARCELS WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF

18:54:57 RESIDENTIAL 35.

18:55:02 THEY HAVE AN EXISTING DENSITY OF 13.9 UNITS PER ACRE

18:55:05 AND THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF

18:55:07 UP TO THREE DWELLING UNITS ON THE SUBJECT SITE BASED

18:55:12 ON-SITE ACREAGE WITH DENSITY OF 27 UNITS PER ACRE.

18:55:15 THIS IS COMPARABLE WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE

18:55:16 CATEGORY OF RESIDENTIAL 35.

18:55:20 IT WOULD NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN

18:55:24 UNDER THAT -- WITHIN THIS SECTION OF WEST JULIA STREET.

18:55:26 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION













18:55:30 STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING BE FOUND

18:55:36 CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:55:39 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

18:55:40 >> THANK YOU, DAVID.

18:55:41 MARY SAMANIEGO AGAIN.

18:55:45 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3008 WEST JULIA STREET.

18:55:48 THEY ARE REQUESTING A REZONING TO RM-24.

18:55:51 AFTER THE NOTICE WENT OUT, THE APPLICANT INDICATED TO

18:55:56 STAFF THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND THEIR REQUEST

18:56:01 TO GO DOWN FROM RM-24 TO RM-18.

18:56:04 LEGALLY -- AND YOU CAN ASK YOUR ATTORNEY OR YOU CAN ASK

18:56:06 THE CITY'S ATTORNEY.

18:56:09 YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER A REDUCTION REQUEST OF

18:56:15 INTENSITY GOING FROM THE RM-24 TO THE RM-18 AS A

18:56:18 REDUCTION IN THE INTENSITY REQUEST OF THE ZONING

18:56:19 DISTRICT.

18:56:23 SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE AT THIS FIRST READING.

18:56:26 SAYING THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET

18:56:30 MEETS THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS,

18:56:33 THE RM-18 NOT A CURRENT REQUEST.

18:56:36 GIVEN THE DENSITY FACTOR OF THE RM-18 AND

18:56:39 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT SIZE OF THE PROPERTY A MAXIMUM OF TWO

18:56:41 DWELLING UNITS COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS SITE.

18:56:46 ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD OCCUR WOULD HAVE TO STAY

18:56:49 WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.













18:56:51 AND THERE IS NO SITE PLAN TO REVIEW.

18:56:53 NO WAIVERS TO CONSIDER.

18:56:57 AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE IS

18:56:59 CONSISTENT.

18:57:00 >> THANK YOU.

18:57:02 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

18:57:03 OKAY.

18:57:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:57:08 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

18:57:12 STEVE MICCOLINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.

18:57:16 AS THE STAFF POINTED OUT, THE LAND USE IS A RS-35

18:57:19 ALLOWS 35 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

18:57:20 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

18:57:23 THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS UNDER A LOT OF TRANSITION.

18:57:26 YOU HAVE AN EXTREMELY HIGH DENSITY, HIGH-RISE JUST HALF

18:57:30 A BLOCK AWAY AT BAYSHORE AND JULIA.

18:57:33 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED AND NONE WOULD BE

18:57:35 ALLOWED.

18:57:40 SO OUR FEELING WAS THAT THE RM-25 IN THE EVENT THAT

18:57:44 SOME SUBSEQUENT OWNER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND

18:57:46 DEVELOPED THREE UNITS.

18:57:48 THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

18:57:51 WE FELT THAT TWO UNITS WERE FAR MORE APPROPRIATE, AND

18:57:55 WE CHANGED THE REQUEST FROM RM-24 TO RM-18.

18:57:59 SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING













18:58:01 RM-18 ON THIS PARCEL.

18:58:04 IT WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY THE CITY STAFF AND THE

18:58:06 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

18:58:08 AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS SENSITIVE TO THE OTHER

18:58:10 SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY POINTED OUT.

18:58:14 IT IS SURROUNDED BY EITHER TOWNHOUSES OR A LITTLE BIT

18:58:17 FURTHER TO THE EAST, BY HIGH DENSITY BAYSHORE

18:58:18 DEVELOPMENT.

18:58:22 SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

18:58:25 BUT WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TO GO

18:58:27 TO RM-18.

18:58:28 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

18:58:31 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON ITEM NUMBER 6?

18:58:33 THANK YOU, SIR.

18:58:36 IF ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 6,

18:58:37 PLEASE COME FORWARD.

18:58:38 THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.

18:58:45 AND MR. SHELBY.

18:58:47 >> I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE

18:58:51 CHECKED WITH THE LEGAL STAFF AND THE CITY STAFF, AND

18:58:54 THE REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT AT

18:58:55 THE HEARING.

18:58:57 >> AND MR. CHAIRMAN, TOWARD THAT END, I BELIEVE IT

18:58:59 WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO ACCEPT THE

18:59:03 PETITIONER'S REQUEST AND ACCEPT THAT MOTION TO AMEND













18:59:07 THE APPLICATION TO AN RM-18.

18:59:10 DO THAT BY MOTION FIRST.

18:59:11 >> CAN WE HAVE A MOTION?

18:59:14 >> TO CHANGE FROM RM-18 FROM 24.

18:59:17 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY

18:59:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:59:19 IN ALL FAVOR.

18:59:20 ANY OPPOSED.

18:59:23 >> BEFORE YOU CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE OF MS.

18:59:25 MORA.

18:59:29 PERMISSIBLE TO READ THE ORDINANCE WITH THE RM-18 AND

18:59:32 HAVE THE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OR DO

18:59:34 YOU REQUIRE THAT TONIGHT.

18:59:37 >> KRISTIN MORA, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

18:59:39 THE ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE

18:59:43 WHICH HAS TO BE READ THE CHANGE OF THE NUMBER 24 TO 18.

18:59:45 SO IF THE COUNCILMAN THAT READS THIS ORDINANCE COULD

18:59:46 READ THE 18.

18:59:50 AND WE WILL GET A CORRECTED ORDINANCE DOWN HERE FOR YOU

18:59:55 IMMEDIATELY.

18:59:58 WE WILL HAVE -- WE WILL HAVE IT DONE TONIGHT AND READ

18:59:59 IT THAT WAY.

19:00:01 >> WE CAN MOVE ALONG AND PASS IT AS SUGGESTED.

19:00:02 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

19:00:04 >> A MOTION TO CLOSE.













19:00:05 >> SO MOVED.

19:00:08 >> A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND

19:00:10 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:00:15 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER

19:00:15 6.

19:00:17 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:00:24 AND ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING OF 3008 WEST JULIA

19:00:25 STREET IN THE CITY TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

19:00:29 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT

19:00:35 CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18

19:00:37 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS

19:00:40 PROVIDED BURDEN OF PROOF THAT THE REZONING IS

19:00:44 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO THAT IT

19:00:49 IS FOUND CONSISTENT PER OUR CITY OF TAMPA STAFF REPORT.

19:00:50 >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

19:00:50 >> SECOND.

19:00:53 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY

19:00:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:00:56 ALL IN FAVOR.

19:00:57 ANY OPPOSED.

19:00:58 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

19:01:00 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

19:01:04 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON OCTOBER 3 AT 9:30 A.M.

19:01:05 >> THANK YOU.

19:01:08 WE HE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 7.













19:01:09 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

19:01:14 ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NO. REZ19-93.

19:01:20 3014 WEST SAN NICHOLAS STREET FROM CG TO RS-350.

19:01:23 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, DAVID HEY AGAIN.

19:01:25 I AM LOSING MY VOICE.

19:01:26 [COUGHING]

19:01:28 -- EXCUSE ME.

19:01:33 WE REMAIN IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, MORE

19:01:37 SPECIFICALLY THE PALMA CEIA.

19:01:41 THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE LEVEL C EVACUATION

19:01:42 ZONE.

19:01:49 THE CLOSEST PARK IS A PUBLIC PARK IS PALMA CEIA PARK,

19:01:52 WHICH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY TWO BLOCKS TO THE EAST.

19:01:56 >> MR. CHAIR, JUST POINT OF ORDER BEFORE YOU GET GOING.

19:02:03 THIS PARCEL IS WITHIN -- ABOUT TWO BLOCKS -- ABOUT FIVE

19:02:07 HOUSES AS THE CROW FLIES FROM MY HOUSE.

19:02:10 SO I JUST WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT.

19:02:14 IT'S -- I MEAN, IT'S IN MY -- IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:02:17 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS DRIVING DOWN THAT STREET

19:02:19 YESTERDAY, AND I SAW THE SIGN AND THEN I WAS CONTINUING

19:02:23 DOWN THE STREET, AND THIS GIANT LIMB -- I KNOW THIS

19:02:24 SOUND CRAZY.

19:02:27 THIS GIANT LIMB OF A TREE FELL DOWN.

19:02:30 IT WAS THIS BIG AND IT -- IT GRAZED MY CAR.

19:02:32 IT WAS RIGHT THERE AT THAT CORNER.













19:02:36 BUT ANYWAY, THAT -- THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

19:02:37 FORTUNATELY IT MISSED ME

19:02:40 SO I AM HERE TO TELL ABOUT IT.

19:02:41 >> WOULD THAT EXPERIENCE CAUSE YOU --

19:02:44 >> WOULD THAT EXPERIENCE CAUSE ME TRAUMA?

19:02:47 >> WOULD IT CAUSE TO YOU DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN BE FAIR

19:02:48 AND IMPARTIAL?

19:02:50 >> I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.

19:02:53 I DON'T KNOW THESE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING IT AND I AM NOT

19:02:54 BEEN THE CIRCLE.

19:02:56 >> YOU ARE NOT WITHIN THE ZONING AREA.

19:03:00 YOU HAVE NO FINANCIAL STAKE IN THE SOME BETTER OR WORSE

19:03:04 IN THE ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL AND DOESN'T AFFECT NEW ANY

19:03:06 FINANCIAL WAY.

19:03:08 IS THAT CORRECT?

19:03:10 >> TRUE, CORRECT.

19:03:13 >> IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT YOU ARE OBLIGATED

19:03:16 TO PARTICIPATE SO LONG AS YOU CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL

19:03:19 AND LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE AND BASE IT ON THE COMPETENT

19:03:21 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD.

19:03:22 IS THAT TRUE?

19:03:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

19:03:26 AND I AM NEVER GOING TO BE A TREE HUGGER AGAIN BECAUSE

19:03:31 THIS TREE TRIED TO GET ME.

19:03:38 WE MOVE ON TO THE AERIAL.













19:03:39 WEST SAN NICHOLAS STREET.

19:03:43 THIS IS MACDILL.

19:03:46 THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL USES ON THIS PORTION OF

19:03:47 MACDILL.

19:03:50 THERE ARE ALSO SOME OFFICE USES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.

19:03:54 THERE ARE SOME TOWN HOMES THAT YOU CAN SEE SCATTERED.

19:04:00 BUT THE PREDOMINANT AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED,

19:04:02 ESPECIALLY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:04:07 THIS IS THE PALMA CEIA COUNTRY CLUB.

19:04:10 HERE WE ARE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

19:04:13 AGAIN THIS IS MACDILL AVENUE.

19:04:15 SAN NICHOLAS STREET.

19:04:19 IT IS HARD TO SEE, BUT A PORTION OF THE SITE, THE

19:04:22 WESTERN -- SMALL WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE DOES HAVE

19:04:26 SOME OF THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ON IT.

19:04:31 THE REST OF THE SITE IS THIS BROWN COLOR, WHICH IS

19:04:32 RESIDENTIAL 20.

19:04:35 THE TAN COLOR FURTHER TO THE EAST IS THAT RESIDENTIAL

19:04:36 10.

19:04:40 AND THEN THE YELLOW ACROSS ON THE WEST SIDE OF MACDILL

19:04:42 IS RESIDENTIAL 6.

19:04:46 THOSE ARE THE HOUSES THAT BACK UP TO THE GOLF COURSE.

19:04:50 THERE IS A COMMERCIAL NODE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.

19:04:55 BASICALLY ANCHOR AT BAY TO BAY AND MACDILL.

19:04:58 THE RED IS ALL THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.













19:05:02 AS YOU MOVE FURTHER EAST TO BAYSHORE, THE DENSITY GOES

19:05:08 UP WITH RS-20, RS-83 AND RS-50.

19:05:14 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THIS .15-ACRE SITE

19:05:17 TO THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO RECOGNIZE AN

19:05:21 EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME ON PROPERTY.

19:05:25 THIS PORTION OF WEST SAN NICHOLAS STREET EXCLUDING THE

19:05:28 SUBJECT SITE HAS A DENSITY OF 8.3 UNITS PER ACRE.

19:05:32 PROPOSED REZONING ALLOW FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ONE

19:05:35 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AND AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 6.6

19:05:36 UNITS.

19:05:39 THIS REQUEST IS BELOW THE EXISTING BLOCK DENSITY AND 20

19:05:43 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER

19:05:47 A RESIDENTIAL 20 THAT SMALL PORTION OF COMMUNITY MIXED

19:05:47 USE 35.

19:05:50 THEREFORE, THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT ALTER THE

19:05:53 CHARACTER AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS PORTION OF

19:05:56 THE PALMA CEIA NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:05:58 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

19:06:01 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE

19:06:04 IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:06:04 THANK YOU.

19:06:05 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:06:11 ANY QUESTIONS?

19:06:12 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

19:06:14 THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THIS













19:06:18 PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL CG TO RS-50.

19:06:23 CONTAINS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE BUILT IN 1925.

19:06:26 THE LOT IS APPROXIMATELY 6500 SQUARE FEET WHICH MEETS

19:06:29 THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE RS-50 ZONING

19:06:30 DISTRICT.

19:06:33 UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT OF COMMERCIAL

19:06:36 GENERAL, THE -- A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE IS

19:06:41 PERMISSIBLE BUT A SPECIAL USE ONE, WHICH IS A SPECIAL

19:06:45 USE APPROVAL REQUIRED WITH A SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT

19:06:47 STAFF LEVEL.

19:06:52 THE APPLICANT -- AND HE CAN SPEAK MORE DIRECTLY TO THIS

19:06:55 -- NEWLY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY DUE TO LENDING

19:06:58 INSTITUTIONS AND TITLE AND THIS SORT OF THING.

19:07:01 THE INTENT IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A ZONING

19:07:05 DISTRICT WHERE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE IS A, BY RIGHT,

19:07:09 ALL OUT USE AS OPPOSED TO BEING A SPECIAL USE ONE.

19:07:11 SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DOWNZONE THE PROPERTY

19:07:16 TO RS-50 WHETHER ALLOW ONE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE

19:07:18 THAT IS EXISTING BY RIGHT.

19:07:20 AND REQUIRES NO SPECIAL APPROVAL.

19:07:23 THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH AS

19:07:26 YOU CAN SEE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.

19:07:31 IT IS ALONG THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OF CG USES ALONG

19:07:37 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE THERE IS NO SITE PLAN TO REVIEW.

19:07:38 NOT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.













19:07:40 NO WAIVERS TO CONSIDER.

19:07:43 STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

19:07:46 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND STAFF WILL REVIEW AND

19:07:50 COMPLIANCE STAFF TO DOWN ZONE THIS PROPERTY TO RS-50 TO

19:07:54 RETAIN ITS PERMISSIBLE USE AS RS-50 FOR A DETACHED

19:07:58 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING FOR

19:07:59 COMMERCIAL GENERAL DEVELOPMENT.

19:08:02 PRIMARILY, ALSO, YOU CAN SEE I WILL NOTE ON THE ZONING

19:08:05 MAP, THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING COMES DOWN, AND IT

19:08:07 JOGS OUT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

19:08:11 SO IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO BE REZONED TO RS-50, WE

19:08:14 WILL CONTINUE THE SYMMETRICAL PATTERN OF COMMERCIAL

19:08:17 GENERAL ZONING ALONG MACDILL.

19:08:19 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THIS

19:08:20 APPLICATION?

19:08:20 >> ANY QUESTIONS?

19:08:22 THANK YOU.

19:08:23 >> THANK YOU.

19:08:32 >> APPLICANT PLEASE.

19:08:35 >> GOOD EVENING, LARRY PRINCE.

19:08:36 ROYALTY PROPERTIES LCC.

19:08:39 WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY KNOWING -- BACK IN MAY THAT

19:08:42 IT WAS A COMMERCIAL WITH THE INTENT TO CHANGE THIS BACK

19:08:44 TO A RESIDENTIAL 50.

19:08:46 AS MARY ELOQUENTLY PUT.













19:08:49 SORRY -- SORRY YOU ALMOST GOT HIT WITH A TREE GOING

19:08:51 DOWN THE STREET.

19:08:58 AND DEALING WITH LENDING INSTITUTIONS AND BROKERS AND

19:09:01 THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY HIGHLY RECOMMEND FOR RESELL

19:09:04 VALUE TO HAVE THIS RETURNED TO RESIDENTIAL.

19:09:07 THEY BROUGHT UP THE SCENARIO IF THE HOME BURNED DOWN

19:09:10 WOULD THE INSURANCE COMPANY NOW REQUIRE THIS HOME TO BE

19:09:13 BUILT BACK AS JUST COMMERCIAL ONLY OR WOULD THEY NOT

19:09:16 HONOR THE CLAIM BASED ON THAT IF ZONED AS COMMERCIAL

19:09:20 AND NOT PUT A RESIDENTIAL HOME BACK IN A SPOT.

19:09:23 IN ORDER TO MAKE MY LIFE AND FUTURE EASIER, I DECIDED

19:09:27 TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST THAT THIS PROPERTY BE REZONED

19:09:29 TO RESIDENTIAL.

19:09:30 >> ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

19:09:31 >> NO.

19:09:33 >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

19:09:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:09:36 APPRECIATE IT.

19:09:36 OKAY.

19:09:40 IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 7 FOR PUBLIC

19:09:43 COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

19:09:46 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND

19:09:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:09:50 ALL IN FAVOR.

19:09:53 OPPOSED.













19:09:56 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:10:00 >> REZ19-93, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

19:10:06 VICINITY OF 3015 WEST SAN NICHOLAS STREET IN THE CITY

19:10:10 TAMPA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1,

19:10:14 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION C COMMERCIAL

19:10:18 GENERAL TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN

19:10:19 EFFECTIVE DATE.

19:10:23 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

19:10:24 DINGFELDER.

19:10:25 ALL IN FAVOR.

19:10:26 ANY OPPOSED.

19:10:29 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

19:10:34 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, OCTOBER 3 AT 9:30 A.M.

19:10:37 >> MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 10.

19:10:39 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

19:10:42 ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ19-66.

19:10:45 A REZONING REQUEST FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR

19:10:48 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH A BONUS PROVISION

19:10:55 AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND

19:11:00 DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE FROM EIGHT TO NINE UNITS.

19:11:01 >> GOOD EVENING.

19:11:04 DAVID HEY, AGAIN, WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

19:11:05 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

19:11:12 WE ARE IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS

19:11:12 CASE.













19:11:14 THERE IS TRANSIT ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WHICH IS

19:11:19 LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:11:23 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION

19:11:26 ZONE AND YOU KNOW IT IS VERY SMALL, BUT THE CLOSEST

19:11:30 PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS SNOW PARK BASED ON THE

19:11:32 MEASUREMENT.

19:11:35 I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RECREATION CAN OCCUR THERE AND

19:11:43 YOU CAN STAND THERE AND LOOK AT THE FOUNTAIN.

19:11:46 RELAX AT THE WATER, I GUESS.

19:11:51 HERE -- HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.

19:11:54 THIS IS FIRE STATION NUMBER 3 TO THE NORTH AT THE

19:11:57 SOUTHEAST CORNER OF KENNEDY AND WILLOW.

19:11:59 THIS IS CLEVELAND.

19:12:03 OF COURSE, THIS IS THE LEE ROY SELMON.

19:12:07 YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A MIXTURE -- THERE ARE MOSTLY

19:12:08 OFFICES TO THE WEST.

19:12:12 THERE ARE MULTIFAMILY AND TOWN HOMES PREDOMINANTLY TO

19:12:16 THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST.

19:12:20 AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU GET -- THIS IS THE UNIVERSITY

19:12:21 OF TAMPA UP HERE.

19:12:26 AND THIS IS GOING TO BE TAMPA GENERAL'S NEW CAMPUS THAT

19:12:32 YOU ALL APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK.

19:12:35 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

19:12:37 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THESE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE

19:12:40 BROWN ARE THAT RESIDENTIAL 35.













19:12:44 IT IMMEDIATELY GOES UP INTO -- AS YOU MOVE FURTHER WEST

19:12:47 DOWN CLEVELAND, IT GOES TO THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35,

19:12:53 THAT ALLOWS THAT CI ZONING DISTRICT, THE PROPERTIES,

19:12:55 INCLUDING A PORTION OF THE FIRE STATION, ALL THIS PINK

19:12:58 COLOR, THAT IS URBAN MIXED USE 60.

19:13:03 AND THEN DOWN ON PLATT, THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35

19:13:07 WHICH ALLOWS THEM IT UP TO A CG ZONING DISTRICT.

19:13:11 THE -- LET'S SEE.

19:13:15 UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 35, THE APPLICANTS GET UP TO A

19:13:19 30 BY RIGHT, AND THEN TO UTILIZE UP TO THE 35, THEY

19:13:22 HAVE TO GO INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT MARY

19:13:25 HAD MENTIONED.

19:13:29 BASED ON THAT WITH THE -- THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING

19:13:34 UP TO NINE UNITS, THAT THAT NINTH UNIT IS TRIGGERING

19:13:37 THE NEED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

19:13:40 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT

19:13:43 AND RETENTION OF DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES TO MEET THE

19:13:46 NEEDS OF TAMPA'S FUTURE AND PRESENT POPULATIONS.

19:13:51 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES -- THIS IS ANOTHER THAT

19:13:53 WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF.

19:13:56 IN MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, THERE IS A COMP PLAN POLICY

19:13:59 THAT TALKS ABOUT -- THEY REALLY SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT

19:14:05 OF DOOR ORIENTED TOWARD THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

19:14:07 THE APPLICANT HAS APPROVED A DOOR.

19:14:11 WHEN THEY CAME IN WASN'T A DOOR ON THE WILLOW SIDE.













19:14:13 THEY HAVE INCLUDED THAT AS PART OF THEIR DESIGN.

19:14:16 SO THAT WOULD MEET THE POLICY DIRECTION IN THE PLAN

19:14:20 REGARDING MULTIFAMILY IN THE ORIENTATION OF THAT.

19:14:23 OVERALL, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FURTHERS MANY OF THE

19:14:27 HOUSING POLICIES IN THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND

19:14:29 CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF

19:14:35 ENCOURAGED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35 LAND USE CATEGORY.

19:14:36 BASED ON THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE

19:14:39 PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE

19:14:42 IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:14:43 THANK YOU.

19:14:48 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:14:49 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

19:14:52 AGAIN, THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST.

19:14:57 I WILL SHOW YOU THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

19:14:57 ON SOUTH WILLOW.

19:15:00 HERE ARE THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

19:15:02 HERE IS AIR-CONDITIONED STORAGE.

19:15:05 THERE IS A LAW OFFICE DIRECT -- CADDY CORNER TO THE

19:15:05 PROPERTY.

19:15:08 TO THE NORTH IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.

19:15:12 AND THEN TO THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS FURTHER TO THE

19:15:14 NORTH RIGHT OFF THE SCREEN.

19:15:17 THESE ARE A SERIES OF APARTMENT USES WITH MULTIPLE

19:15:20 DWELLING UNITS EACH ONE.













19:15:24 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.

19:15:28 AGAIN, THEY ARE PROPOSING NINE DWELLING UNITS WITHIN

19:15:33 THE THREE-STORY BUILDING.

19:15:39 BASED ON CURRENT CODE PROVISIONS, THE ENTIRE SITE IS

19:15:41 .28 ACRES.

19:15:46 THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS 11,600 SQUARE FEET, AND THAT

19:15:52 HAS A MAIN PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE OFF OF WILLOW AVENUE.

19:15:56 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE TO THE NORTH SEVEN FEET.

19:15:58 TO THE SOUTH, FOUR FEET.

19:16:00 TO THE EAST IS 22 FEET.

19:16:03 AND BECAUSE OF THE STAIRWELLS, TO THE WEST IS A

19:16:05 ONE-FOOT SETBACK PROPOSED.

19:16:08 THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING SHEET 45 FEET.

19:16:12 BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND THE

19:16:16 COMBINATION OF BEDROOMS, A TOTAL OF 20 PARKING SPACES

19:16:19 IS REQUIRED, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 12.

19:16:22 THAT 40% PARKING REDUCTION IS SUBJECT TO A CITY COUNCIL

19:16:24 WAIVER APPROVAL.

19:16:28 TRANSPORTATION STAFF AND PLANNING DESIGN AND

19:16:32 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF FOUND THAT 40% PARKING

19:16:34 AS INCONSISTENT.

19:16:37 VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY INGRESS WILL BE OFF OF

19:16:40 SOUTH WILLOW AVENUE ONE WAY.

19:16:47 ACCESSING THE SURFACE PARKING SPACES AND UTILIZING THE

19:16:51 APPROVED ALLEY TO EXIT THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS ACCESS













19:16:55 THE -- SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES TO THE EAST OF THE

19:17:00 BUILDING.

19:17:03 AS WE INDICATED, THEY ARE ASKING FOR A BONUS PROVISION

19:17:05 BY RIGHT UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:17:08 THEY ONLY GET EIGHT DWELLING UNIT.

19:17:10 THEY ARE ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT

19:17:14 SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REVIEWED BY THE CITY

19:17:15 LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

19:17:19 THE DENSITY BONUS PAYMENTS WILL BE TRUED UP AT

19:17:25 PERMITTING, BUT APPROXIMATELY 16,967.11.

19:17:29 THAT IMPROVEMENT WILL PROVIDE FOR ANTICIPATED OFFSITE

19:17:32 IMPACTS FOR THE INCREASED DENSITY THROUGH PAYMENT INTO

19:17:36 A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR ANOTHER SIMILAR

19:17:39 SURROUNDING AREA PROJECT.

19:17:42 AS FAR AS THE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED, FOUND ON PAGE

19:17:43 ONE.

19:17:48 THE FIRST WAIVER TO SECTION TO REDUCE THE PARKING FROM

19:17:52 20 SPACES DOWN 12 WHICH IS A 40% PARKING REDUCTION.

19:17:57 THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO 27-283-12.

19:18:01 THEY REQUIRE BACKUP DISTANCE FOR PARKING SPACE IS 24

19:18:05 FEET BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.

19:18:15 ONLY A 19-FOOT BACK-UP DISTANCE IS PROPOSED FOR THESE

19:18:16 FIVE LOT, PARKING SPACES.

19:18:18 THAT IS THE SECOND WAIVER.

19:18:25 A THIRD WAIVER REQUEST TO 287-24 FOR THE TREE FUND FOR













19:18:26 REQUIRED TREES.

19:18:30 AS YOU CAN SEE VERY LIMITED GREEN SPACE ON THE SUBJECT

19:18:31 PROPERTY.

19:18:34 BASED ON THE TREE TABLE FOR THE TREES BEING REMOVED AS

19:18:39 WELL AS THE TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED.

19:18:43 THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON-SITE TO PLANT ALL OF

19:18:44 THOSE TREES.

19:18:50 SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO PUT MONEY IN THE

19:18:53 TREE TRUST FUND FOR THE MITIGATION OF FEES.

19:18:59 THE FOURTH WAIVER TO REDUCE THE USE BUFFER TO THE NORTH

19:19:02 PROPERTY LINE FROM FIVE THREE FEET.

19:19:03 THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.

19:19:07 THE CODE STATES FOR BUFFERING PURPOSES, A MULTIFAMILY

19:19:10 DEVELOPMENT ADJOINING A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED

19:19:13 DEVELOPMENT REQUIRE A FIVE-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND

19:19:16 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO GO DOWN TO

19:19:16 THREE FEET.

19:19:20 THAT WAIVER APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO IN LIEU PAYMENT IN

19:19:21 TIMES OF PERMITTING.

19:19:24 THE LAST WAIVER BEING REQUESTED IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT

19:19:30 FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT LESS THAN SIX STORIES.

19:19:35 EACH DWELLING OPPORTUNITY REQUIRED 350 SQUARE FEET OF

19:19:38 GREEN SPACE GIVEN THE PROPOSED NINE UNITS TOTAL OF

19:19:44 3,150 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE IS REQUIRED MINIMUM IN

19:19:47 ADDITION TO THE GREEN SPACE FOR THE PARKING LOT.













19:19:50 AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO

19:19:55 1408 SQUARE FEET OF MULTIFAMILY GREEN SPACE AGAIN WITH

19:19:58 PAYMENT IN LIEU AT TIME OF PERMITTING.

19:20:03 THERE ARE SEVERAL REVISIONS BY PLANNING, DESIGN AND

19:20:05 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION IF THIS WAS APPROVED BETWEEN

19:20:07 FIRST AND SECOND READING.

19:20:10 SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE YOUR REVISION SHEET IN

19:20:11 THE MOTION.

19:20:13 IF YOU DO APPROVE IT, CHANGES FROM TRAPPING AS WELL AS

19:20:16 NATURAL RESOURCES AND STORMWATER.

19:20:21 BUT OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT -- THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW

19:20:26 AND COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT.

19:20:28 I WILL REFERENCE TO YOU THE PLANNING AND DESIGN

19:20:33 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FINDINGS OF FACT ON PAGE 2, 3

19:20:36 AND 4 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT RELATING TO COMPATIBILITY

19:20:39 AND NATURAL ELEMENTS.

19:20:42 BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE 40% PARKING REDUCTION AND THE

19:20:47 LACK OF GREEN SPACE FOR MULTIFAMILY PROVISION AND LACK

19:20:52 OF GREEN SPACE TO PLANS REQUIRED AND MITIGATION TREES

19:20:56 WITH CONSIDERATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A

19:21:00 DENSITY BONUS FOR DWELLING UNITS THEY HE WOULD NORMALLY

19:21:01 BE ALLOWED.

19:21:04 SAYING THAT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?

19:21:05 >> ANY QUESTIONS?

19:21:07 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?













19:21:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WITH REGARD TO THIS DENSITY

19:21:15 BONUS PROGRAM, YOU SAID THAT -- THAT THEY WOULD PAY

19:21:18 INTO THE CITY SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHAT DID

19:21:21 YOU SAY, $16,000, $18,000.

19:21:23 >> APPROXIMATELY $17,000.

19:21:26 >> $17,000.

19:21:29 AND I REMEMBER WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

19:21:32 THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT ABOUT A MILE NORTH OF HERE

19:21:35 WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS IN

19:21:37 THE ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

19:21:40 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOUR PROJECT OR NOT.

19:21:43 BUT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS IN

19:21:47 THE ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAY TO ADD ON STREET PARKING AND

19:21:48 THAT SORT OF THING.

19:21:51 BUT IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT -- IN THAT AREA.

19:21:53 >> CORRECT.

19:21:57 >> HERE WHEN -- WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING TO IT, I DIDN'T

19:22:01 HEAR ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO HELP THE --

19:22:07 THE IMMEDIATE LOCAL CONDITION.

19:22:10 >> KRISTEN MORA, WOULD YOU LIKE ADDRESS WHAT THE

19:22:12 PROVISION IS PAYING FOR?

19:22:17 >> WELL, KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

19:22:20 UNDER YOUR CODE WHICH IS OUR BONUS PROVISION SECTION,

19:22:23 IT HAS SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS ABOUT WHAT THEY

19:22:26 WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO.













19:22:29 THEY HAVE A MULTITUDE OF OPTIONS FROM UNDERGROUNDING

19:22:34 UTILITIES TO PROVIDING ON-STREET PARKING AND PROVIDING

19:22:38 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN ONE OF THE OPTIONS, AND

19:22:41 TENDS TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A POPULAR ONE IS TO CONTRIBUTE

19:22:44 TO THE MULTIMODAL DISTRICT.

19:22:48 AND SO THAT IS A CASH CONTRIBUTION TO THE MULTIMODAL

19:22:49 DISTRICT.

19:22:51 THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENT IN THE

19:22:55 AREA FOR IT TO GO TO.

19:22:59 IT'S A -- THE HOWARD AVENUE, DESOTO AVENUE INTERSECTION

19:23:06 CIP NUMBER 1001544.

19:23:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOWARD AND WHERE?

19:23:15 >> HOWARD AVENUE, DEGO AVENUE AND DESOTO AVENUE

19:23:17 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.

19:23:22 >> A GOOD MILE AWAY FROM THE HOWARD SOHO ENTERTAINMENT

19:23:25 AREA.

19:23:30 THE REASON I MENTION IT, ARE THE OBJECTIONS -- THE TWO

19:23:34 LETTERS OF OBJECTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED THAT ARE PART OF

19:23:36 THE RECORD AND I AM SURE THE PETITIONER HAVE SEEN IT

19:23:39 SPEAK TO PARKING CONCERNS.

19:23:43 AND HERE THEY ARE ASKING FOR SIGNIFICANT PARKING

19:23:47 WAIVER, X NUMBER OF SPACES IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE

19:23:51 OF THEM ARE COMPACT SPACES.

19:23:54 AND I AM WONDER WHAT, IF ANYTHING, THE CITY IS GOING TO

19:23:58 DO WITH THAT MONEY THAT MIGHT MITIGATE THE IMMEDIATE













19:24:02 IMPACTS TO THE -- TO THE PARKING CONCERNS OF THE

19:24:03 NEIGHBORS.

19:24:07 >> PROVIDING ON STREET PARKING, AS I RECALL, IS ONE OF

19:24:10 THE OPTION WITHIN 27-140.

19:24:11 THAT IS --

19:24:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW THAT SECTION OF WILLOW

19:24:13 I THINK --

19:24:14 >> I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

19:24:18 IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE FROM

19:24:20 TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT.

19:24:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

19:24:29 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:24:31 >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?

19:24:32 >> MS MORA.

19:24:35 HOW DOES COUNCIL PLAY A ROLE WITH THESE BONUS

19:24:39 PROVISIONS HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THESE COMMUNITIES?

19:24:43 >> SO THE -- THE WAY THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SET

19:24:47 UP FOR MANY OF THE COMP PLAN CATEGORIES IS THAT YOU

19:24:51 HAVE AN ENTITLEMENT TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DENSITY AND

19:24:55 INTENSITY AND THAT IS ALLOWED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.

19:24:57 IF YOU WISH TO GO FURTHER AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL

19:25:01 DENSITY AND INTENSITY IN THE CASE OF COMMERCIAL

19:25:05 PROJECTS, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF

19:25:10 COMMUNITY BENEFIT AS A RESULT OF THAT, AND SO THAT IS

19:25:13 THE WAY 27-140 IS SET UP.













19:25:17 IS IT HAS AN EXACT MATHEMATICAL FORMULA FOR AN OFFSET

19:25:21 FOR THAT ADDITIONAL INTENSITY AND DENSITY.

19:25:24 AND SOME ADDITIONAL BENEFIT WERE PROVIDE UNTIL THERE.

19:25:27 AS I MENTIONED, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND OPTIONS

19:25:31 TO ACCOUNT FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERING CONDITIONS AND WHAT

19:25:32 THOSE ISSUES MAY BE.

19:25:37 SO THAT IS THE WAY THAT IS SET UP IN OUR CODE.

19:25:39 >> ANYONE ELSE?

19:25:41 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:25:44 >> IN REVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN AND ZONING DISTRICT

19:25:48 APPLICATION, WE HAVE MANY REQUIREMENTS.

19:25:52 WE ARE ASKING FOR SAYS PROVIDE PROCEDURE IN WHICH CAN

19:25:56 RELATE THE TYPE, DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF RESIDENTIAL AND

19:25:58 NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

19:26:00 I HAVE JUST SEEN SITE PLANS.

19:26:03 DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE ELEVATION PLANS OR BUILDING

19:26:05 PLANS?

19:26:07 >> I DO -- I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT

19:26:12 IN THIS INSTANCE BUT WILL LET MS SAMANIEGO ADDRESS

19:26:12 THAT.

19:26:16 >> THANK YOU, MS MORA.

19:26:18 MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.

19:26:22 BUILDING FLOORPLANS ARE NOT REQUIRED.

19:26:30 >> ELEVATIONS IN ANYBODY ELSE'S PACKET?

19:26:37 >> I APOLOGIZE.













19:26:38 >> YES, THEY ARE.

19:26:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:26:46 NOTHING FURTHER.

19:26:48 >> OKAY.

19:26:51 >> ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL?

19:26:56 OKAY, APPLICANT.

19:27:03 >> GOOD EVENING, WILLIAM MOLLOY, SOUTH BOULEVARD.

19:27:06 WE DO REALIZE WE ARE ASKING FOR A LOT OF WAIVERS IN THE

19:27:07 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

19:27:10 IT NOT APPARENT THE INTENT OF THE IS TO PROVIDE A

19:27:13 HIGHER END PRIVATE HOUSING TO SUPPORT THE UNIVERSITY OF

19:27:13 TAMPA.

19:27:16 THIS ISN'T MEANT AS A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY

19:27:17 DEVELOPMENT.

19:27:20 IT IS MEANT AS -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY STUDENT HOUSING

19:27:23 BUT THAT IS THE MARKET WE ARE CHASING RIGHT NOW.

19:27:27 TO THAT END, WAIVERS 1 AND 2 BOTH DEAL WITH

19:27:29 TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN FORM OF TRANSPORTATION BY

19:27:31 TRADITIONAL AUTOMOBILES.

19:27:36 AND ONE OR TWO ARE THE PARKING AND THE AISLE WIDTH.

19:27:41 ASKING FOR REDUCTION IN PARKING FOR THE AISLE WIDTH FOR

19:27:42 THE DRIVE.

19:27:45 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE OVERHEADS AND AERIALS THAT WERE

19:27:46 PROVIDED.

19:27:50 DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF UT AND A BEVY OF OTHER RETAIL













19:27:53 SUCH AS WALMART, A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET JUST TO THE

19:27:56 NORTHWEST, FAST FOOD, COFFEE, BREAKFAST, LAW OFFICES,

19:28:00 CHURCHES, MINI STORAGE ACROSS THE STREET AND SO ON ALL

19:28:01 WITHIN BLOCKS.

19:28:04 THE IDEA OF WALKABILITY IS A SELLING POINT FOR THIS

19:28:05 PROJECT.

19:28:08 NOT AN AUTOMOBILE-DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT.

19:28:11 AND ALSO, AS I AM SURE YOU KNOW, IN 2019 AND ESPECIALLY

19:28:14 IN SOUTH TAMPA, TRADITIONAL TRANSPORTATION IS AND

19:28:17 INCREASINGLY BE MITIGATED BY INVOLVING FORMS OF

19:28:19 DELIVERY.

19:28:21 WE HAVE RIDE SHARES, RIDE SERVICES.

19:28:25 WE HAVE CITY PROVIDED ALTERNATIVES SUCH AS BICYCLE

19:28:29 RENTALS AND SCOOTER SERVICES WHICH HAVE TAKEN OVER

19:28:29 SOUTH TAMPA.

19:28:33 I LIVE ACROSS THE PLATT STREET BRIDGE, SCOOTERS

19:28:33 EVERYWHERE.

19:28:34 LOVE THEM, HATE THEM.

19:28:38 THEY GET DUMP IN MY FRONT YARD OCCASIONALLY.

19:28:42 THAT IS EMBRACING THESE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION WILL

19:28:45 ACCOUNT FOR THEM IN EVOLVING DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS

19:28:45 ONE.

19:28:48 AGAIN A STUDENT-DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT.

19:28:50 NOT A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY ONE.

19:28:54 OUR BUILDER WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK IF NEED BE WOULDN'T













19:28:56 CONTEMPLATE SUCH A DEVELOPMENT IF HE COULDN'T ACCOUNT

19:28:58 FOR A PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY TENANT.

19:29:04 THAT IS NOT MARKETABLE BUT NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

19:29:08 REQUESTING ADDITIONAL DENSITY APPEARS GREEDY BUT NOT.

19:29:09 IT IS REALITY.

19:29:11 NECESSARY FOR A STUDENT HOUSING FOR THE UNIVERSITY

19:29:13 ACROSS THE STREET.

19:29:17 THIS SEGUES INTO WAIVER NUMBER 5, THE GREEN SPACE

19:29:18 ISSUE.

19:29:22 AGAIN, THIS ISN'T CONTEMPLATED TO BE TRADITIONAL.

19:29:25 WE SACRIFICED GREEN SPACE TO GET TO THE PARKING NUMBER

19:29:29 WE ARE AT WHICH IS STILL LOW GIVEN SACRIFICE BUT THE

19:29:31 PROJECT WON'T SUFFER FROM IT.

19:29:33 YOU SEE THE ELEVATIONS.

19:29:36 A GOOD-LOOKING BUILDING.

19:29:40 NOT FAR FROM THE BREAKER DOWN CLEVELAND IN LINE WITH

19:29:43 THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH TAMPA AND WON'T

19:29:45 LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT LITTLE PATCH OF STREET BETWEEN

19:29:48 THE CROSSTOWN AND KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON WILLOW.

19:29:51 THAT IS NOT A TREMENDOUSLY PRETTY LINE OF SIGHT FOR

19:29:54 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

19:29:57 WAIVERS 3 AND 4 ARE FINANCIAL ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAPPY

19:29:58 WITH.

19:29:59 NO PROBLEM THERE WHATSOEVER.

19:30:03 SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE BELIEVE THE WAIVER REQUEST













19:30:06 IS VERY UNIQUE TO THE DESIGN AND PURPOSE OF THE

19:30:08 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY DON'T SUBSTANTIALLY

19:30:11 INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

19:30:14 THAT THEY ARE IN HARMONY WITH AND SERVE THE GENERAL

19:30:17 INTENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, ITS CODES AND MOST

19:30:20 IMPORTANTLY ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH SUPPORTS THE

19:30:21 REQUESTED DENSITY.

19:30:23 AND THAT IT WILL RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING

19:30:26 DONE IN CONSIDERING BOTH PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY, TO

19:30:29 THE UNIVERSITY, AND TO THE VARIOUS INTERESTS OF THE

19:30:30 CITY OF TAMPA.

19:30:31 WITH THAT, THANK YOU.

19:30:34 AND I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

19:30:37 I HAVE THE OWNER AND BUILDER TO ANSWER ANY AS WELL.

19:30:38 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:30:40 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:30:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I DID THE DIVISION.

19:30:49 NINE UNITS FOR 11,600 TOTAL SQUARE FEET IS 12,088

19:30:52 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT CONSIDERING THEY ARE ALL THE SAME,

19:30:56 WHICH IN LIGHT OF THE LOCATION AT WILLOW THERE JUMPED

19:30:59 OUT AT ME I SAID, A-HA, STUDENT HOUSING.

19:31:01 NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

19:31:05 I AM SURE IF HE HAS GONE TO ALL THIS AND WANTS TO BUILD

19:31:07 IT, THERE MUST BE A MARKET FOR IT.

19:31:08 THAT'S GREAT.













19:31:14 MY CONCERN -- I NECESSARILY HAVE A BIG CONCERN OF THE

19:31:16 VARIOUS OTHER WAIVERS.

19:31:18 BUT THE PARKING WAIVER CONCERNS ME GREATLY.

19:31:23 I RECALL MANY YEARS AGO GOING TO GAINESVILLE.

19:31:25 IN MY FIRST YEAR, I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR.

19:31:27 BUT THE NEXT YEAR, I DID.

19:31:29 WHEN I WAS A SOPHOMORE.

19:31:37 I HAD MY MOTHER'S '65 IMPALA AND I WAS HOT TO TROT.

19:31:37 [ LAUGHTER ]

19:31:44 BUT ANYWAY, THE POINT IS, YOU GOT 27 BEDROOMS, OKAY.

19:31:50 YOU GOT THREE -- THREE, NINE APARTMENTS.

19:31:53 27 BEDROOMS TO ME VERY LIKELY YOU MIGHT HAVE 27

19:31:55 STUDENTS LIVING THERE.

19:31:59 27 STUDENTS, THE REQUIREMENT -- SO ARGUABLY THEY MAY

19:32:02 HAVE 27 CARS AND LOOKS TO ME UT STUDENTS HAVE MORE

19:32:04 MONEY THAN GATORS.

19:32:09 BUT ARGUABLY, MAYBE -- OKAY, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE 27 CARS,

19:32:12 YOU KNOW, BUT YOU ARE DOWN TO THE CITY REQUIREMENT IS

19:32:15 20 CARS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ARE OFFERING 12

19:32:16 PARKING SPACES.

19:32:20 NOW I AGREE, THOSE KIDS MIGHT NOT BE USING THOSE CARS,

19:32:23 YOU KNOW, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

19:32:26 IT IS PROBABLY EASIER FOR THEM TO JUMP ON THEIR BIKE

19:32:29 AND GO TO SCHOOL OR GRAB AN UBER TO GO WHEREVER THEY

19:32:33 NEED TO GO, BUT EVEN SO, IF THEY OWN A CAR, THEN WE













19:32:35 HAVE GOT ISSUES.

19:32:37 GIVES ME LITTLE HEARTBURN ABOUT THAT.

19:32:40 SO WHAT I WONDERED ABOUT -- I DON'T LIKE TO BUILD

19:32:42 PEOPLE'S DESIGN.

19:32:46 WHY NOT PARK -- WHY DON'T YOU ALL PARK SOME CARS

19:32:50 UNDERNEATH AND WOULD YOU HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.

19:32:53 >> MR. DINGFELDER, FOR THE RECORD, DOUBLE GATOR.

19:32:54 UNDERGRAD --

19:32:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE YOU GO.

19:32:58 >> I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING IN GAINESVILLE VERY, VERY

19:32:58 WELL.

19:33:02 PARKING UNDERNEATH WOULD -- IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CARE

19:33:04 TO ENTERTAIN.

19:33:06 IT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE AND WOULDN'T MAKE THE STUDENT

19:33:10 HOUSING ANY MORE -- IT WOULD MAKE IT SOMETHING ELSE.

19:33:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM JUST SAYING CLEARLY YOU COULD

19:33:15 ADDRESS -- YOU WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR THE FIRST PARKING

19:33:17 WAIVER IF YOU JUST LIFTED THAT BUILDING UP ONE MORE

19:33:19 STORY AND PARKED UNDERNEATH.

19:33:23 I RECOGNIZE THERE IS ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, FIRE CODES, I

19:33:25 AM SURE AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

19:33:27 BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR A PARKING WAIVER.

19:33:29 >> CORRECT.

19:33:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

19:33:32 THAT'S ALL I GOT RIGHT NOW.













19:33:34 >> ANYBODY ELSE?

19:33:37 AND I WILL ECHO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.

19:33:40 THE PARKING WAIVER AT THAT LOCATION, YOU KNOW, DOES

19:33:41 TROUBLE ME

19:33:44 I -- EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE STUDENT HOUSING, A LOT OF

19:33:48 STUDENTS THERE WHO HAVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES FORESEEABLY.

19:33:50 AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT TROUBLES ME.

19:33:52 WHY DON'T YOU BUILD A LAW FIRM THERE.

19:33:55 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAWYERS IN THAT AREA -- I AM JUST

19:33:56 JOKING.

19:33:59 >> I BELIEVE IT IS INUNDATED WITH LAW FIRMS IN THE

19:34:00 AREA.

19:34:02 MINE INCLUDED.

19:34:03 >> I AM JOKING.

19:34:04 ANYBODY FOR ITEM NUMBER 10.

19:34:05 SO COME FORWARD.

19:34:10 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.

19:34:11 >> THANK YOU.

19:34:15 CHRIS ANGELO, PRESIDENT OF SEVEN GABLES REALTY.

19:34:18 AND 111 SOUTH NEWPORT, THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST OF

19:34:27 THIS ONE.

19:34:37 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

19:34:38 >> THERE YOU GO.

19:34:39 >> THANK YOU.

19:34:40 THIS IS MY APARTMENT COMPLEX.













19:34:46 I GOT A TEXT FROM THE OWNER OF THE HYDE PARK TEA

19:34:47 COTTAGE.

19:34:50 SHE WAS IN PANIC -- SHE HAD A HEATSTROKE ON SUNDAY SO

19:34:51 SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT.

19:34:53 AND I TOLD HER I WOULD ATTEND.

19:34:58 AND BACK WHEN I BOUGHT THE COMPLEX, PARKING WASN'T AN

19:34:58 ISSUE.

19:35:02 THEY BUILT HYDE PARK TOWN HOMES IN 2001.

19:35:06 IT BECAME AN ISSUE AND THE HYDE PARK TEA HOUSE.

19:35:09 THESE TWO HOUSES ARE THE ONES NO LONGER THERE WHERE THE

19:35:10 PROJECT IS.

19:35:20 SO IN 200, THEY PUT A BIG -- 2008 BUT A BIG CONDO

19:35:22 COMPLEX, AND IT BECAME A BIGGER PROBLEM.

19:35:26 AND THEN THEY ASKED ME TO PAINT MY BUILDING, AND I

19:35:27 PAINTED IT.

19:35:30 AND THEY BUILT A FENCE RIGHT HERE WHERE MY DUMPSTER

19:35:32 WAS.

19:35:36 AND I HAD TO MOVE THE DUMPSTER BACK, I GUESS, PAST THE

19:35:40 ALLEYWAY CLOSE TO THESE GUY'S PARCEL.

19:35:43 THE CITY CONTACTED ME LAST YEAR AND SAID, YOU GOT TO

19:35:44 HAVE THESE.

19:35:47 WE PUT THEM IN THE FRONT, BUT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE

19:35:50 PARKING PROBLEM, THEY COULDN'T DUMP THOSE TRASH CANS.

19:35:53 THEY ARE IN THE BACK AGAINST THESE GUYS' PARCEL WHICH

19:35:55 IS A PROBLEM.













19:35:57 I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM GOING TO DO TO DUMP THE TRASH.

19:36:01 AND THEN FINALLY -- THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE SAME

19:36:03 THAT YOU GUYS ADDRESSED.

19:36:06 AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH -- OFF OF WILLOW, IF YOU REDUCE

19:36:07 THE PARKING.

19:36:09 IT IS GOING BE TOO BIG PROBLEM.

19:36:10 THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY.

19:36:13 MAKING THESE REDUCED PARKING SPACES IS WHERE THOSE

19:36:14 TRASH CANS ARE.

19:36:15 SIT IN THE ALLEYWAY.

19:36:17 I DIDN'T PUT THEM THERE.

19:36:19 THE CITY DID BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO PUT

19:36:19 THEM.

19:36:22 THEY PUT THEM IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING COULDN'T

19:36:23 PICK UP THE TRASH.

19:36:26 A PROBLEM I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ON MY PARCEL, BUT I AM

19:36:29 CONCERNED WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC FLOWING THROUGH THIS,

19:36:33 BEHIND MY COMPLEX, AS WELL AS THE LACK OF PARKING.

19:36:35 BECAUSE WE ARE TIGHT NOW.

19:36:40 WE ARE 18 -- WE ARE 16 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS IN.

19:36:44 AND TWO TWO-BEDROOMS, ONE BEDROOMS.

19:36:47 SO THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

19:36:47 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:36:49 >> THANK YOU.

19:36:59 >> NEXT.













19:37:02 >> SIR -- SIR, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE PART OF THE

19:37:05 RECORD?

19:37:05 >> LEAVE THEM --

19:37:09 >> NO, I WILL TAKE THEM.

19:37:25 >> THANK YOU.

19:37:28 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

19:37:34 STEVE MICCOLINI, HERE FOR CHRIS LIGORI.

19:37:37 AN ATTORNEY WHOSE OFFICE -- ON THE SCREEN, CORRECT?

19:37:41 HIS OFFICE IS RIGHT HERE, AND I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE

19:37:43 THE ISSUE REGARDING PARKING.

19:37:47 I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THAT THEY CAN'T MEET

19:37:51 THE PARKING FOR FIVE UNITS AND THEY WANT NINE.

19:37:54 IN AN AREA THAT IS STARVED FOR PARKING.

19:37:57 THIS IS -- THIS IS INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT THEY WANT TO

19:37:59 PAY FOR A BONUS AND DO THAT.

19:38:02 THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE HAS AN OFFICE BUILDING AND

19:38:06 THEY BOUGHT ALL OF THIS JUST FOR PARKING.

19:38:10 THIS LAW OFFICE HERE AND HE'S HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.

19:38:12 HE COMPLIES WITH THE CODE.

19:38:18 AND -- IF UT IS THE ISSUE, WHAT DID UT DO TO SUPPLY

19:38:21 THEIR STUDENTS IF THEY HAD HOUSING, THEY BUILT A

19:38:21 GARAGE.

19:38:25 THEY DIDN'T JUST SAY PARK ON THE STREET.

19:38:29 THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING NORTH.

19:38:33 AND THESE TWO LOTS THAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS ALL













19:38:39 ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT LIGORI BOUGHT FOR SUPPLEMENTAL

19:38:39 PARKING.

19:38:42 NOT TO MEET THE CODE -- HE MET THE CODE ON THIS

19:38:42 BUILDING.

19:38:44 WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GO?

19:38:48 THEY ARE GOING ACROSS THE STREET TO LIGORI'S LOT OR

19:38:52 OVER HERE TO THE GENTLEMAN'S LOT THAT HE JUST SPOKE --

19:38:55 HIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WHICH IS HERE OR DOWN HERE TO THE

19:38:57 LAW OFFICE OR TO THIS PROPERTY HERE.

19:39:02 THIS IS -- THIS IS JUST AN -- AN AMAZING REQUEST.

19:39:05 YOU KNOW I SHOW UP BEFORE YOU AND I ASK FOR CERTAIN

19:39:07 WAIVERS FOR RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

19:39:08 THIS IS RESIDENTIAL.

19:39:10 THIS IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

19:39:13 THOSE PEOPLE COME AND THEY STAY.

19:39:16 SO WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?

19:39:19 THEY CAN'T PARK ON EITHER SIDE OF WILLOW BECAUSE NO

19:39:19 PARKING.

19:39:21 THIS IS HEAVY TRAFFIC AREA.

19:39:27 ONE OF TWO LOTS THAT LIGORI BOUGHT FOR PARKING FOR HIS

19:39:28 OFFICE BUILDING HERE.

19:39:32 THIS WAS -- THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN AT ABOUT 2:30 IN THE

19:39:33 AFTERNOON.

19:39:37 IT'S LOADED WITH TRAFFIC.

19:39:39 WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO?













19:39:40 SAME WITH THIS ONE.

19:39:43 THIS IS THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE

19:39:44 SUBJECT PROPERTY.

19:39:47 THE STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.

19:39:50 YOU CAN'T MAKE A NINE-UNIT COMPLEX CONSISTENT.

19:39:54 IT IS TOO MUCH FOR THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY.

19:39:57 THEY CAN'T -- THEY ARE REMOVING MORE THAN 50% OF THE

19:39:59 GREEN SPACE.

19:40:02 THEY ARE -- ANYWAY, I -- YOU SEE THE LETTER.

19:40:04 THEY CAN'T MEET THE CODE.

19:40:07 THEY NEED TO GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE OR DENY THIS

19:40:07 PROJECT.

19:40:09 IT SIMPLY DOESN'T -- DOESN'T COMPLY.

19:40:13 IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

19:40:17 AND IT IS AN ENCROACHMENT AND A VIOLATION -- FOR

19:40:20 PUTTING A BURDEN ON ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY

19:40:21 OWNERS.

19:40:24 IT SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

19:40:29 REDUCING THE AISLE WIDTHS FOR THE DRIVE AISLES, PUTTING

19:40:34 ANGLED PARKING FORCING TO GO ON TO THE ALLEY.

19:40:35 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:40:36 >> IT IS NOT A GOOD PLAN.

19:40:39 >> STEVE, TAKE THIS IN THE MANNER OF WHICH IT IS

19:40:40 OFFERED.

19:40:42 WILL YOU PLEASE TELL US YOUR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE













19:40:43 RECORD?

19:40:44 >> YES, SIR.

19:40:51 I HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE 13TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

19:40:55 COURT AS AN EXPERT ON LAND USE AND ZONING.

19:40:57 PRACTICING LAND USE AND ZONING ON MY OWN AND BEFORE

19:41:00 THAT THE ZONING ADMINSTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

19:41:04 I WROTE MANY OF THE EARLY ZONING CODES, THE FIRST PDS

19:41:06 WERE DRAFTS THAT I WROTE.

19:41:12 MARY TYPED THEM AND DAVE -- AND --

19:41:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH A SELECTRIC.

19:41:19 >> THERE WERE NO COMPUTERS. AND WE DID THIS ON

19:41:20 TYPEWRITERS.

19:41:22 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH LAND USE AND ZONING IN THE

19:41:24 CITY SINCE THE '70S.

19:41:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:41:27 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:41:32 BEFORE MR. SHELBY -- OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

19:41:37 I THINK I HAVE ONE CASE AGAINST THE LIGORI LAW FIRM AS

19:41:38 A DISCLOSURE.

19:41:40 >> NO FINANCIAL STAKE IN THE POSITION THAT IS IN FRONT

19:41:41 OF YOU TODAY.

19:41:42 >> ABSOLUTELY.

19:41:44 >> AND WHAT YOU ARE HEARING TODAY, YOU CAN STILL MAKE A

19:41:47 DECISION AND BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.

19:41:53 >> THANK YOU FOR DISCLOSING THAT, BUT MY PROFESSIONAL.













19:41:56 IT DOES NOT RAISE TO A CONFLICT.

19:41:59 >> THE PUBLIC OF A CASE THAT I REPRESENT A PARTY

19:42:03 ADVERSE TO ONE OF HIS CLIENTS.

19:42:03 THANK YOU.

19:42:04 NEXT, SIR.

19:42:08 >> GOOD EVENING, JAMES R. SCHAFFER.

19:42:14 I OWN AND OCCUPY THE BUILDING ACROSS FROM MR. LIGORI ON

19:42:17 120 SOUTH WILLOW, ON THE CORNER OF CLEVELAND AND

19:42:18 WILLOW.

19:42:19 THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH OF ME WHICH IS

19:42:20 HOUSING.

19:42:23 AND I BELIEVE TO ME MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SEEMS LIKE UT

19:42:24 STUDENTS.

19:42:25 IT IS MULTIFAMILY.

19:42:26 AND THEN THE TWO LOTS.

19:42:31 AND THEN WE HAVE THE ALLEYWAY IN THE BACK.

19:42:33 IT GOES TO NOWHERE BECAUSE OF THE FIRE STATION.

19:42:35 I DON'T WANT TO REHASH WHAT YOU GENTLEMEN ALREADY KNOW

19:42:38 AND WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, BUT I HAVE BEEN THERE 19

19:42:39 YEARS.

19:42:42 WHEN I BUILT THAT, EVERYONE SAID YOU ARE ON THE WRONG

19:42:45 SIDE OF THE CROSSTOWN.

19:42:48 IT KIND OF FREAKED ME OUT BECAUSE I WAS REALLY YOUNG

19:42:49 THEN.

19:42:50 BUT THEY WERE WRONG.













19:42:52 BUT I EXPERIENCED A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

19:42:54 I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PARKING.

19:42:58 I HAVE SIX SPOTS IN THE BACK, WHICH WE ENTER THROUGHOUT

19:42:59 ALLEYWAY.

19:43:03 I HAVE TWO PLUS A HANDICAP THAT ENTER WILLOW.

19:43:06 I HAVE PERSISTENT PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PARKING.

19:43:11 AND I WILL PREFACE THIS WITH -- I WAS NEVER TOWED

19:43:13 ANYONE OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS HOURS.

19:43:15 THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION.

19:43:16 I HAVE CAMERAS ON MY BUILDING.

19:43:20 I DON'T SIT IN TEMPLE TERRACE AND TRY TO TOW SOMEBODY.

19:43:23 I HAVE ACTUALLY TOLD PEOPLE, ENCOURAGED THEM TO DO

19:43:24 THAT.

19:43:28 BUT I HAVE HAD PEOPLE TAKING UP TWO SPOTS AT 11 A.M.

19:43:34 AND ATTORNEYS THAT CAN'T PARK, CAN'T WORK.

19:43:38 AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. ANGELO AND I -- I SYMPATHIZE

19:43:40 WITH HIM, BUT THAT ALLEYWAY.

19:43:43 HE HAS LOST A LOT OF PARKING.

19:43:45 THERE ARE SANITATION ISSUES.

19:43:48 WHEN THEY GO -- THERE USED TO BE THAT DUMPSTER.

19:43:52 AND I FIGURED IT OUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

19:43:54 THEY WOULD LAY ON THE HORN BECAUSE THERE ARE CARS

19:43:57 BLOCKING, AND THEY CAN'T GET TO THE CANS.

19:43:59 AND OR THE DUMPSTERS.

19:44:03 SO I AM ALL FOR DEVELOPMENT.













19:44:06 I -- I AM SO HAPPY THERE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THERE

19:44:08 INSTEAD OF TWO VACANT LOTS, BUT I AM JUST PERSONALLY

19:44:12 CONCERNED THAT THE EFFECT IT IS GOING TO HAVE ON MY

19:44:17 BUSINESS AND THE POTENTIAL PARKING OVERFLOW KNOWING

19:44:20 WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, ONLY

19:44:25 PRIMARILY IN THE LAST FIVE TO SIX YEARS.

19:44:28 I NEVER TO HAVE TOW SIGNS UP.

19:44:31 I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE LAW ON IT.

19:44:34 I DO MARITAL AND FAMILY LAW, AND I DON'T SUE AS A

19:44:36 GENERAL COURSE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

19:44:41 SO I ACTUALLY JUST FOUND OUT THAT MY TOW SIGN UP FRONT

19:44:42 WAS STOLEN.

19:44:43 SO I --

19:44:43 [ LAUGHTER ]

19:44:45 -- YOU KNOW.

19:44:49 RELATIVELY NEW CAMERAS BUT IF I HAD TO CHECK THEM, I

19:44:50 COULD FIND OUT WHO DID THAT.

19:44:54 BUT I JUST -- AFTER HEARING EVERYONE'S CONCERNS, MY

19:44:57 PERSONAL CONCERN ON THE -- ON THE LOW AMOUNT OF PARKING

19:44:58 THAT IS PLANNED.

19:45:00 THANK YOU.

19:45:05 >> COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:45:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PARKING WAIVER DOES CONCERN ME.

19:45:10 I DRIVE THROUGH THIS AREA -- WHAT IS CLEVELAND GOING --

19:45:13 I SEE HOW BACKED UP WILLOW IS TO THE KENNEDY LIGHT.













19:45:17 IT'S -- IT IS NOT MEANT FOR HEAVY TRAFFIC.

19:45:20 HISTORICALLY -- THAT'S WHY THESE ROADS ARE SO NARROW.

19:45:23 LOOK AT BOULEVARD IT IS NARROW.

19:45:24 WILLOW IT IS NARROW.

19:45:28 BEFORE THE CROSSTOWN ACROSS OF RESIDENTIAL CRAMMING

19:45:30 SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THIS SPOT AND REQUESTING THE

19:45:30 WAIVERS.

19:45:34 I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, UT STUDENTS -- I WAS A UT STUDENT

19:45:35 FOR A YEAR.

19:45:38 I THINK ONE OUT OF TEN OF US HAD A CAR.

19:45:41 SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS A

19:45:43 CAR, AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

19:45:46 YOU ARE ACCOMMODATING STUDENTS.

19:45:48 WHAT IF ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS HAVE CARS.

19:45:50 HALF HAVE CARS.

19:45:52 YOU HAVE AN ISSUE.

19:45:55 THEY CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET.

19:45:58 YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA SOLID WASTE

19:45:59 TRYING TO COME IN.

19:46:02 THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT THEY LAY ON THE HORN.

19:46:06 I JUST DON'T SEE AN EASY -- EASY WAY OUT OF THIS TO

19:46:09 ACCOMMODATE IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO

19:46:12 DO FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.

19:46:14 SO I DON'T THINK I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

19:46:15 THANK YOU.













19:46:18 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:46:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY BIG CONCERN IS SANITATION.

19:46:23 WHEN I LOOK AT THE PHOTOS THERE.

19:46:27 I KNOW HOW THE GARBAGEMAN OPERATES.

19:46:28 THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH.

19:46:30 THERE IS A PROBLEM.

19:46:33 AND I HAVE GOT REAL CONCERNS AND THAT'S -- THAT IS A

19:46:36 REAL BIG ONE WITH REFERENCE TO THAT SANITATION WITH

19:46:40 THOSE CANISTERS.

19:46:40 >> ANYONE ELSE?

19:46:41 MR. SHELBY.

19:46:45 >> I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL

19:46:45 HEARD --

19:46:46 >> WE HAVEN'T CLOSED YET.

19:46:49 BEFORE YOU GO, IF I MAY JUST BEFORE ANY OTHER COMMENTS

19:46:50 BY COUNCIL?

19:46:51 WE HAVEN'T CLOSED YET.

19:46:55 YOU MAY SPEAK.

19:46:57 >> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND

19:46:58 UNDERSTAND THEM.

19:47:02 AGAIN, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED COMING FROM GAINESVILLE,

19:47:04 I UNDERSTAND PARKING CONCERNS AND THE EFFECTS ON

19:47:07 SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS BUSINESSES, ET CETERA.

19:47:10 GAINESVILLE IS DRACONIAN ABOUT IT.

19:47:12 TAMPA IS NOT THE SAME MENTALITY.













19:47:13 A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

19:47:17 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA HAS COMMUTER PARKING LOTS WHERE

19:47:20 THESE KIDS IF THEY SO CHOOSE PARK THEIR CAR FOR WEEKS,

19:47:21 MONTHS ON END.

19:47:24 THAT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR ZONING.

19:47:27 NOTHING THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE OR WE CAN ENFORCE.

19:47:32 BUT A CONDITION THAT IS AVAILABLE, MR. CITRO.

19:47:35 >> COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:47:39 >> HOW CLOSE IS THAT PARKING LOT OF WHAT YOU ARE

19:47:41 DESCRIBING -- 1,000 FEET?

19:47:43 >> YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK

19:47:47 AND PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME.

19:47:51 >> THERE ARE TWO PARKING GARAGES ON CAMPUS I UNDERSTAND

19:47:54 AND A FEW MORE SMALL COMMUTER PARKING LOTS.

19:47:55 >> WITHIN 1,000 FEET?

19:47:57 >> I DON'T KNOW THE FOOTAGE.

19:48:02 THE BIG MAIN PARKING GARAGE FOR STUDENTS COMMUTERS IS

19:48:04 PRETTY MUCH IN THE CENTER OF CAMPUS.

19:48:06 >> IT'S --

19:48:09 >> MY ESTIMATION --

19:48:09 [INAUDIBLE]

19:48:13 >> DID YOU APPROACH ANYBODY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR

19:48:16 SOME SORT OF SHARED PARKING DURING OFF-PEAK HOURS?

19:48:19 >> I AM AWARE OF THE LIGORI PARKING ACROSS THE STREET.

19:48:23 >> DID YOU APPROACH THE LIGORI LAW OFFICE?













19:48:24 >> NO.

19:48:26 >> THANK YOU.

19:48:26 >> ANYONE ELSE?

19:48:28 IF YOU WISH TO SAY ANYTHING.

19:48:32 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:48:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MOLLOY.

19:48:40 I DON'T PROFESS TO BE A PSYCHIC OR ANYTHING BUT I AM

19:48:43 NOT HEARING VERY GOOD STUFF UP HERE.

19:48:44 >> CORRECT.

19:48:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION, PERHAPS

19:48:51 YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AND REVISIT --

19:48:53 SINCE IT IS A PD.

19:48:57 IT IS NOT -- YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO TWEAK ISSUES

19:48:59 THAT COUNCIL HAS RAISED AND COME BACK ANOTHER DAY.

19:49:04 I AM NOT TRYING TO -- I AM NOT TRYING TO HURT THE FOLKS

19:49:07 WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE TONIGHT, BUT

19:49:09 I THINK OUT OF FAIRNESS, MAYBE THERE IS A BETTER PLAN.

19:49:13 AND ESPECIALLY AS RELATED TO PARKING AND PERHAPS THAT

19:49:16 UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING THING MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU

19:49:17 MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.

19:49:19 >> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

19:49:22 AND I WILL TAKE TO HEART GIVEN THE TESTIMONY GIVEN.

19:49:25 AND THE APPARENT MOOD OF THE COUNCIL ON IT.

19:49:30 WE WOULD ASK RESPECTFULLY FOR A CONTINUANCE TO RETHINK

19:49:34 THE PARKING SITUATION AND COME BACK WITH SOMETHING A













19:49:39 PITT MORE PALATABLE, IF NOT A WAIVER, MUCH LESS OF A

19:49:40 WAIVER.

19:49:42 RATHER THAN CANCELLING THE WHOLE THING COME BACK AND

19:49:44 REDRAW THE PLAN.

19:49:47 >> BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

19:49:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.

19:49:50 ANYBODY ELSE?

19:49:52 MR. SHELBY.

19:49:57 >> INQUIRE TO COUNCIL AND STAFF, HOW MUCH TIME?

19:50:00 >> WE HAVE A PRETTY FIRM BACK-UP PLAN.

19:50:03 IF NOTICE IS APPROPRIATE, WE WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THE

19:50:05 NEXT MEETING.

19:50:07 >> MS SAMANIEGO, WILL YOU PLEASE.

19:50:08 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

19:50:11 THE NEXT MEETING IS INAPPROPRIATE, SEPTEMBER 26, WHICH

19:50:14 IS ALREADY A FULL AGENDA.

19:50:17 OCTOBER AGENDA IS FULL.

19:50:21 IT -- I CAN'T SAY -- I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY THE EXTENT

19:50:25 OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO MAKE.

19:50:28 LET ME CLARIFY.

19:50:31 THERE ARE CODE PROVISIONS IN THE PROCEDURE THAT BASED

19:50:33 ON THE AMOUNT OF CHANGES HOW FAR BACK INTO THE REVIEW

19:50:35 PROCESS THEY HAVE TO GO.

19:50:38 IF THEY ARE PROPOSING A SMALL CHANGES, THEN WE CAN

19:50:41 MAYBE DO IT WITH THE 45-DAY REVIEW.













19:50:43 IF THEY ARE DOING SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, WE MIGHT HAVE TO

19:50:46 RUN IT BACK A DRC MEETING AGAIN.

19:50:48 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:50:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A

19:50:51 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

19:50:57 40% REDUCTION IN THAT AREA IS A LOT.

19:51:00 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE AROUND THERE -- YOU

19:51:03 KNOW -- I AM NOT TOO MUCH KEEN ON RENTAL PROPERTIES

19:51:08 THAT YOU SAY GOING TO RENT SOMEONE ELSE'S LOT BECAUSE

19:51:11 THAT LOT IS DEVELOPED, THEN YOU ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE

19:51:14 AND THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANT.

19:51:16 AND I AM NOT TALKING -- SPEAKING OF YOUR CASE IN

19:51:18 GENERAL I AM TALKING ABOUT.

19:51:20 THEREFORE IT JUST -- I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD AND I THINK

19:51:25 THE VIBRATIONS ARE MUCH LOUDER THAN WHAT WE FIRST

19:51:26 STARTED.

19:51:30 AND I -- I AM NOT APOLOGIZING BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT

19:51:32 DOESN'T FIT.

19:51:34 >> IF I MAY.

19:51:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND STUDENTS FROM UT MAYBE

19:51:41 WALK, BUT I WAS ONE OF THE POOR ONES TO GO THERE.

19:51:43 AND EVEN I HAD A CAR.

19:51:43 [ LAUGHTER ]

19:51:48 THE PEOPLE -- AND -- I AIN'T FINISHED YET.

19:51:49 I HAVEN'T FINISHED.













19:51:53 AND WHEN I DROVE, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WALKING USED TO

19:51:55 PUSH ME AROUND.

19:52:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS ASKING THE MODEL OF THE CAR.

19:52:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN'T TELL YOU, SIR.

19:52:05 IT IS IN A MUSEUM.

19:52:06 >> BELONGS IN A MUSEUM.

19:52:09 ONE THING I MAY WITH THAT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,

19:52:15 THIS HOUSING IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA

19:52:15 STUDENTS.

19:52:19 THAT IS THE POND YOU ARE AIMING TO FISH FROM, CORRECT?

19:52:21 >> CORRECT.

19:52:24 I AM PRETTY SURE -- I WON'T SPEAK FOR HIM.

19:52:28 BUT I AM NOT SURE IF THE CITY WOULD ENTERTAIN A DEED

19:52:31 RESTRICTION THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE A STUDENT OR

19:52:33 STUDENT RELATED --

19:52:35 >> GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

19:52:36 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.

19:52:40 TYPICALLY YOU CAN'T -- AND AGAIN YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS

19:52:44 IF I SAY ANYTHING INCORRECT, BUT TYPICALLY, DOESN'T PUT

19:52:47 A POSITION ON A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SOMETHING THAT THE

19:52:48 CITY CAN'T ENFORCE.

19:52:53 IF THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL BE ABLE TO CHECK IDS

19:52:57 AND WHETHER THEY ARE ENROLLED IN A SCHOOL PROGRAM.

19:52:59 >> I JUST MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE FOCUSING A LOT ON THE

19:53:01 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.













19:53:04 FOR ALL WE KNOW, A THIRD, A HALF MORE ARE UT STUDENTS.

19:53:05 MAYBE NOT STUDENTS.

19:53:07 MAYBE FOLKS THAT WORK NEARBY.

19:53:10 I THINK SEEKING RELIEF FROM UT FOR PARKING POTENTIALLY

19:53:13 WOULD ONLY ADDRESS PART OF OUR CONCERNS.

19:53:16 A LARGER ISSUE THAT YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY

19:53:20 ARE STUDENTS, WHETHER THEY ARE --

19:53:23 WHETHER MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, WHATEVER IT IS, AND

19:53:27 THERE IS GOING TO BE PARKING CHALLENGES FOR ANYBODY.

19:53:30 AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU FOR WHATEVER IT COUNTS HERE

19:53:32 TO CONTINUE TO CHECK WITH THE FOLKS THAT SURROUND YOU

19:53:35 OF ANY PROPOSALS YOU MAKE, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST -- FOR

19:53:37 YOUR OWN SAKE, I GUESS.

19:53:38 >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

19:53:42 AND FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH, I THINK OUR BACK-UP PLAN ON

19:53:45 THIS -- HORIZONTAL IS NOT AN OPTION ON THIS, BUT

19:53:46 VERTICAL IS PLAN B.

19:53:50 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY INQUIRE OF MR. MOLLOY.

19:53:52 IT LOOKED THAT STAFF SAID THAT OCTOBER IS NOT

19:53:53 AVAILABLE.

19:53:57 WOULD YOU THEN PREFER NOVEMBER 14 AND DECEMBER 12 OR

19:53:59 LATER THAN?

19:54:02 >> NOVEMBER 14, PLEASE.

19:54:02 >> NOVEMBER 14 AT 6 P.M.

19:54:04 THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.













19:54:06 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING?

19:54:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.

19:54:09 >> SECOND.

19:54:12 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND SECOND BY

19:54:16 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO -- DO I HAVE TO TAKE ANY PUBLIC

19:54:17 COMMENT ON THE MOTION TO CONTINUE?

19:54:20 >> IF I CAN, BEFORE YOU TAKE THE VOTE, TO LET THE

19:54:22 PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE KNOW THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE NO

19:54:25 ADDITIONAL NOTICE OF THE NEXT MEETING.

19:54:27 YOUR NOTICE IS COMING TONIGHT IN THE FORM OF THIS

19:54:28 MOTION.

19:54:33 IT IS BEING SET FOR NOVEMBER 14, THURSDAY, AT 6 P.M.

19:54:38 AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE.

19:54:38 >> THAT'S FINE.

19:54:40 >> ALL IN FAVOR.

19:54:41 >> AYE.

19:54:42 >> ANY OPPOSED?

19:54:45 >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

19:54:46 >> THANK YOU.

19:54:47 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

19:54:51 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY FOR -- SORRY FOR THE STUPID

19:54:51 QUESTION.

19:54:56 WHY DON'T WE NOTICE PEOPLE WHEN IT GETS CONTINUED?

19:55:00 >> BECAUSE, A, IT IS NOT A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

19:55:01 IT IS NOT IN THE CODE.













19:55:05 AND B, WHAT WE NORMALLY DO NOTICE REQUIRES AT LEAST A

19:55:09 LONG PERIOD OF TIME OUT AND ALSO REQUIRES AN EXPENSE TO

19:55:10 THE PETITIONER.

19:55:15 AND IT IS A -- INVOLVED PROCESS AND ALSO REQUIRES THE

19:55:19 FILING OF AN AFFIDAVIT AND PROOF TO THE CITY CLERK.

19:55:22 A VERY INVOLVED PROCESS AND WHAT WE DO, COUNCIL -- A

19:55:23 VERY GOOD QUESTION.

19:55:27 THE LAW ALLOWS FOR YOU TO CONTINUE WHAT WE CALL NOTICE

19:55:27 TRAINS.

19:55:30 IN OTHER WORDS, AS LONG AS -- AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE IT

19:55:33 AND ANNOUNCE THE DATE AND TIME -- AND THAT'S WHY I MAKE

19:55:35 A POINT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC HEARS THE DATE AND

19:55:36 TIME.

19:55:39 WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW, AND PEOPLE WHO WATCH OR

19:55:41 FOLLOW AND ARE PRESENT ARE ON NOTICE WHEN THE NEXT

19:55:44 MEETING IS.

19:55:45 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:55:47 MOVE TO THE FINAL COUNTDOWN.

19:55:48 NUMBER 11.

19:55:49 GO AHEAD.

19:55:54 >> ITEM NUMBER 11 -- MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.

19:55:58 ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ19-70.

19:56:02 A REZONING REQUEST FOR 3015 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE FROM

19:56:04 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO BANK WITH

19:56:07 A DRIVE-IN WINDOW.













19:56:10 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

19:56:12 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

19:56:13 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

19:56:16 WE END THE EVENING IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING

19:56:17 DISTRICT.

19:56:29 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON -- ON COLUMBUS DRIVE

19:56:33 WHICH IS A DESIGNATED TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.

19:56:35 ON TO THE AERIAL.

19:56:39 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF

19:56:40 COLUMBUS AND MACDILL.

19:56:42 THIS IS THE CVS.

19:56:46 THIS IS THE WAFFLE HOUSE.

19:56:49 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS MOSTLY A COMMERCIAL NODE.

19:56:52 DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED

19:56:54 RESIDENTIAL.

19:56:56 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

19:57:00 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THESE PARCELS IN THIS PINK ARE

19:57:02 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.

19:57:06 FUTURE LAND USE IS MORE INTENSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

19:57:09 COLUMBUS IN THIS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, WHICH ALLOWS

19:57:13 UP TO THE CI, AND YOU CAN SEE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH

19:57:18 IS THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.

19:57:21 >> WHERE IS THE WEST TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, DAVID?

19:57:23 >> IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

19:57:24 RIGHT THERE.













19:57:30 WHERE THE WAFFLE HOUSE IS.

19:57:33 AS YOU -- AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY

19:57:36 DEVELOPED AS A BANK.

19:57:39 IT WAS APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK AS MEDICAL

19:57:40 OFFICE.

19:57:41 THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BANK.

19:57:45 IT WOULD NOT -- IT WOULD BE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE.

19:57:48 THEY ARE USING THE EXISTING BUILDING.

19:57:49 BASED ON THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS

19:57:51 THAT THIS BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

19:57:52 PLAN.

19:57:53 THANK YOU.

19:57:55 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

19:57:58 >> MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

19:57:59 COORDINATION.

19:58:02 AGAIN, A REQUEST FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED

19:58:02 DEVELOPMENT.

19:58:07 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

19:58:10 PART OF THE STAFF REPORT OUTLINED IT APPROVED AS A PD

19:58:17 IN 2004, 0444 FOR A BANK WITH DRIVE-IN AND ALLOWING ALL

19:58:17 CG USES.

19:58:22 LAST YEAR FOR REZ18-10, THEY WANTED TO CONVERT THE

19:58:25 BUILDING AND ADD ON TO IT FOR A BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL

19:58:27 OFFICE AND MEDICAL OFFICE.

19:58:31 SINCE THAT TIME, DEALS HAVE FALLEN THROUGH AND NOW THE













19:58:33 APPLICANT WANTS TO CONVERT THE PROPERTY BACK TO A

19:58:36 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW ONLY A BANK WITH A

19:58:37 DRIVE-IN WINDOW.

19:58:40 THERE ARE -- SO BASICALLY THE SITE WILL REMAIN AS IS

19:58:45 WITH SOME SLIGHT SITE MODIFICATIONS.

19:58:48 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUIRED OR THAT ARE BEING

19:58:49 REQUESTED.

19:58:51 THERE ARE CHANGES FOR A PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, JUST

19:58:55 SOME MINOR NOTATIONS NEEDED TO THE SITE PLAN.

19:58:59 SO IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS, PLEASE LOOK AT THE REVISION

19:59:01 SHEET AND THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF DID FIND THIS

19:59:04 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT

19:59:05 ORDINANCE.

19:59:08 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?

19:59:10 >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

19:59:13 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

19:59:19 APPLICANT HERE?

19:59:22 >> GOOD EVENING, AZAM EISHEIKH WITH GLOBAL ENGINEERING

19:59:25 ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF THE OWNER.

19:59:29 BASICALLY, A BANK IS EXISTING AND WE JUST WANT TO GO

19:59:32 BACK TO -- HAVE THAT CORRECT ZONING FOR IT.

19:59:36 I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

19:59:39 >> ANY QUESTION FOR APPLICANT?

19:59:40 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

19:59:43 >> THIS IS PRETTY CUT AND DRY GOING BACK TO THE BANK.













19:59:46 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS THERE AND DIDN'T GO THERE.

19:59:48 >> IT WAS A MEDICAL OFFICE.

19:59:54 AND WE WERE GOING THROUGH PERMITTING ACTUALLY.

19:59:56 AND IT GOT AN OFFER HE COULDN'T REFUSE.

19:59:57 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

19:59:59 >> ANYONE ELSE?

20:00:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

20:00:04 ANYONE HERE AND ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

20:00:05 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:00:08 >> ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM

20:00:09 11?

20:00:12 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:00:14 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:00:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:00:18 ANY OPPOSED?

20:00:21 I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE NEXT.

20:00:23 IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING NUMBER 10.

20:00:27 SORRY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:00:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T WANT TO BURDEN HIM.

20:00:31 OKAY.

20:00:36 WITH REGARD TO FILE REZ19-66 --

20:00:38 >> WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU READING?

20:00:39 >> 11.

20:00:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 11.

20:00:41 THANK YOU.













20:00:42 GOOD CATCH.

20:00:45 IN REGARD TO REZ19-70.

20:00:48 MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

20:00:54 VICINITY 3015 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE FOR FIRST READING IN

20:00:57 THE CITY OF TAMPA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

20:01:01 SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD

20:01:03 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MEDICAL OFFICE

20:01:06 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

20:01:09 BANK WITH DRIVE-IN PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND

20:01:13 SPECIFICALLY THAT THE PETITIONER MET HIS BURDEN OF

20:01:15 PROOF OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE

20:01:17 DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE

20:01:23 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE AND SPECIFICALLY

20:01:28 OPERATED UNDER THE PREVIOUS PD BANK FOR PROBABLY MORE

20:01:32 THAN TEN YEARS WITHOUT ISSUE.

20:01:35 AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS RETURNING TO.

20:01:39 MR. MANISCALCO POINTED OUT.

20:01:42 ALONG WITH THE REVISION, THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.

20:01:44 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:01:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:01:50 ALL IN FAVOR.

20:01:51 ANY OPPOSED.

20:01:55 >> OCTOBER 3, 9:30 A.M.

20:01:56 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:01:58 WE GO TO REPORTS, MOTIONS.













20:02:00 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:02:05 >> MR. COUNCILMAN, IF I MAY, PLANNING AND DESIGN.

20:02:09 THIS IS KRISTIN MORA'S LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND

20:02:13 WANTED TO THANK HER FOR YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE

20:02:15 AND ASSISTANCE TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

20:02:16 >> YES.

20:02:17 >> THANK YOU.

20:02:20 >> I UNFORTUNATELY WASN'T HERE FOR THE COMMENDATION

20:02:24 THAT OCCURRED, BUT YOU DO A GREAT JOB, AND I HAD THE

20:02:26 PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS OR

20:02:29 SO, AND YOU ARE A REAL TOP-NOTCH PROFESSIONAL AND JUST

20:02:32 BEING AN ATTORNEY, I KNOW THE KIND OF PRESSURE YOU ARE

20:02:33 UNDER.

20:02:37 AND YOU -- YOU WEAR IT WELL TO QUOTE ROD STEWART.

20:02:38 SO THANK YOU.

20:02:39 THANK YOU.

20:02:43 YES, SIR.

20:02:44 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

20:02:47 >> IF WE DON'T MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE MEETING, YOU

20:02:54 OFFICIALLY HAVE TO SAY, RIGHT?

20:02:57 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:02:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

20:03:06 MARY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO --

20:03:09 IT IS SORT OF RELEVANT TO YOU IN YOUR WORLD, AND THIS

20:03:13 ISSUE OF BONUS DENSITY HAVE -- COMES BACK UP













20:03:16 PERIODICALLY AND I AM NOT COMPLETELY CONVINCED THAT IT

20:03:19 IS A GREAT PROVISION THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF

20:03:20 THE CITY.

20:03:26 SO I WOULD LIKE TO -- RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A STAFF

20:03:29 REPORT IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING, MR. SHELBY.

20:03:33 TO -- TO START THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS

20:03:36 OF THE BONUS DENSITY PROVISIONS.

20:03:38 WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF IT.

20:03:41 IS IT APPLICABLE IN ALL -- IN ALL LOCATIONS OF THE CITY

20:03:43 AND THAT SORT OF THING.

20:03:46 AND JUST GET A DISCUSSION GOING.

20:03:49 >> KRISTIN MORA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

20:03:51 IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION, SIR.

20:03:54 I BELIEVE THAT MAY COME UP DURING A WORKSHOP FOR

20:03:55 JANUARY 30.

20:04:00 I THINK THAT DOVETAILS EXCELLENTLY WITH A MOTION THAT

20:04:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD AS WELL.

20:04:06 IF I COULD MAKE THAT SUGGESTION TO INCORPORATE THAT

20:04:08 INTO THAT WORKSHOP.

20:04:12 AND THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO POTENTIALLY

20:04:14 DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES.

20:04:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT CYCLE DOES THAT NECESSARILY

20:04:19 THROW ANY PROPOSED CHANGES INTO?

20:04:22 >> IT WOULD PUT THEM -- IT WOULD BE AFTER THE JANUARY

20:04:25 15 CUTOFF FOR THE JANUARY CYCLE.













20:04:27 SO IT WOULD BE LOOKING AT JULY.

20:04:30 BUT IT MAY BE AN INVOLVED DISCUSSION.

20:04:33 I KNOW THAT EACH TIME THIS HAS COME UP, THERE HAS BEEN

20:04:34 A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

20:04:38 SO I DON'T IMAGINE THIS WILL BE ONE WHERE WE -- YOU

20:04:43 KNOW, OR MY SUCCESSOR WILL PUT TOGETHER CODE LANGUAGE

20:04:45 DURING THE COURSE OF A WEEKEND IT WILL PROBABLY BE A

20:04:48 FAIRLY INVOLVED DISCUSSION, I WOULD IMAGINE.

20:04:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I TELL YOU WHAT.

20:04:50 I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

20:04:53 I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND START THAT DISCUSSION IN

20:04:54 NOVEMBER.

20:04:58 JUST THROUGH A STAFF REPORT, MAYBE IT CAN BE MINIMAL

20:05:02 AND WE COULD START DISCUSSING THE PROS AND CONS, AND

20:05:05 THEN IF WE NEED TO CARRY IT OVER UNTIL JANUARY, THEN WE

20:05:07 KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING.

20:05:10 BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT

20:05:14 JANUARY CYCLE WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

20:05:16 >> NOVEMBER 7.

20:05:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:05:20 YOU PRESENTLY ONLY HAVE TWO STAFF REPORTS OR THE 21ST

20:05:23 THE LAST MEETING BEFORE THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY YOU

20:05:24 HAVE ONE STAFF REPORT.

20:05:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOOD, NOVEMBER 21.

20:05:30 >> NOVEMBER 21.













20:05:32 >> OKAY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

20:05:33 >> SECOND.

20:05:34 >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

20:05:36 >> I AM SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

20:05:40 ASK YOU TO CLARIFY WHAT DATA HE WANTS IN A STAFF

20:05:41 REPORT.

20:05:42 >> WHAT DATA?

20:05:45 >> LIKE WHAT INFORMATION ARE YOU REQUESTING.

20:05:48 >> WELL, LIKE I SAID, A DISCUSSION OF THE PROS AND CONS

20:05:52 OF THE HISTORY OF THE BONUS DENSITY PROVISION.

20:05:55 AND WHAT IT -- YOU KNOW, WHY IT'S THERE AND WHAT ARE

20:05:58 THE PROS AND CONS OF HAVING IT THERE.

20:06:03 AND, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO DATA, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A

20:06:07 LOT OF WORK, BUT I AM NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR AT

20:06:08 THIS POINT.

20:06:11 MAYBE -- MAYBE IF WE CONTINUE IT TO JANUARY, WE CAN GET

20:06:13 MORE INTO THE DATA.

20:06:14 WHAT WERE YOU THINKING OF MARY?

20:06:17 >> I WANTED TO CLARIFY SO WHEN I REPORT TO MY DIRECTOR

20:06:20 AND SHE ASKS WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO REPORT ON.

20:06:23 IT WASN'T CLEAR WHAT -- WHAT YOU WERE REQUESTING.

20:06:25 AND I THINK IT IS CLEAR NOW.

20:06:27 >> THANK YOU.

20:06:30 >> I THINK IT TIES IN TO THE WORKSHOP IN JANUARY.

20:06:33 THAT'S WHY I PUSHED THE WORKSHOP BACK TO LEGAL AND













20:06:37 STAFF COULD HAVE TIME TO BRING US GOOD INFORMATION OF

20:06:40 NOT WHAT WE CAN'T DO BUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE THINGS

20:06:44 ALONG, BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY HAD A DISCUSSION JUST

20:06:50 YESTERDAY BEFORE MS KRISTIN IS LEAVING OF AN

20:06:53 AGREEMENT AND THESE KEEP COMING UP AND WE TALKED ABOUT

20:06:54 BENEFITS HERE.

20:06:57 WHAT SHOULD BE GOING HERE OR BENEFITS THAT ARE NOT

20:07:00 REALLY HELPING FOSTER ANY TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

20:07:01 THAT I SEE.

20:07:05 SO THINK IT IS A GOOD DISCUSSION TO START OUT, BUT I

20:07:08 THINK ONCE WE KIND OF LAY OUT GROUNDWORK BY JANUARY, WE

20:07:11 WILL HAVE A FULL IMPACT OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO

20:07:15 AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE THEIR SAY IN THAT AS

20:07:17 WELL BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE

20:07:19 ASKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

20:07:20 AND IT IS A CONCERN.

20:07:21 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

20:07:23 >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

20:07:25 >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

20:07:26 >> NOT YET.

20:07:30 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND A SECOND

20:07:33 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:07:35 IN ALL FAVOR, OPPOSED.

20:07:37 OKAY.

20:07:39 COUNCILMAN GUDES.













20:07:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO MOTIONS.

20:07:43 TO GIVE A COMMENDATION OF THE FOUNDER OF THE HEIGHTS

20:07:47 SOCIAL GROUP FOR HYGIENE DRIVE DONATED MORE THAN 4,000

20:07:51 HYGIENE PROJECTS TO 19 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS ACROSS

20:07:56 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ON 9/19/2019.

20:07:59 >> I DO NOT HAVE MY SCHEDULE FOR THAT DAY.

20:08:00 WHAT DO WE HAVE --

20:08:03 >> WHAT DATE AGAIN, SIR?

20:08:07 OH, NEXT THURSDAY.

20:08:09 >> IS SHE AVAILABLE?

20:08:11 >> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND SHE IS --

20:08:17 >> NEXT THURSDAY BEING SEPTEMBER.

20:08:20 >> LOOKS LIKE TWO COMMENDATIONS AT 9 A.M.

20:08:21 >> THEY ARE BOTH MINE.

20:08:26 ACTUALLY THE MEDAL OF HONOR AND TITUS O'NEILL.

20:08:28 I AM TRYING -- YEAH, THE -- THE CONVENTION.

20:08:34 WHAT IS -- LET ME ASK YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:08:36 WAS THAT ONE OF THE ONLY DATES SHE COULD MAKE?

20:08:38 WAS THAT TIME SENSITIVE?

20:08:40 >> THAT WAS THE DATE I WAS GIVEN.

20:08:42 >> BY HER?

20:08:47 >> SO -- AND SHE WORKS?

20:08:48 >> I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE FULL CONVERSATION SO I DON'T

20:08:50 KNOW.

20:08:52 AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW.













20:08:53 >> OKAY.

20:08:54 AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT.

20:08:55 I WILL DO THIS.

20:08:59 I WILL TALK ABOUT SOMETHING AFTERWARDS BECAUSE WE HAVE

20:09:01 TO STOP LIMITING THE NUMBER OF COMMENDATIONS AND THINGS

20:09:04 PER MEETING, BUT I WILL DO IT THIS TIME.

20:09:08 BUT DARN IT, WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT AT THE END.

20:09:13 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

20:09:15 CITRO.

20:09:16 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.

20:09:19 THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO THAT DAY.

20:09:21 AND I AM AN OFFENDER.

20:09:24 >> WE CAN FIND ANOTHER DAY IF WE HAVE TO.

20:09:25 >> WE CAN FIND ANOTHER DAY.

20:09:28 HE SAYS -- HE SAYS -- ANOTHER DAY --

20:09:32 >> YOU SAID THE 19TH WAS ALREADY GOOD.

20:09:36 >> WE WILL DO IT THE 19TH, THAT'S FINE BUT AFTERWARDS

20:09:38 -- ANYTHING ELSE.

20:09:39 >> YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE --

20:09:43 >> IS THERE A MOTION?

20:09:45 >> ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A

20:09:49 COMMENDATION TO REVEREND OSCAR JOHNSON JR. WHO PASSED

20:09:52 AWAY POSTHUMOUSLY.

20:09:54 RETIRED EDUCATOR AND SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE

20:09:56 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 35 YEARS.













20:10:00 THE COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED TO HIS FAMILY AT A

20:10:04 DATE TO BE DETERMINED WHICH WILL BE THE FRIDAY OR TAKE

20:10:06 IT TO THE SERVICE ON SATURDAY.

20:10:10 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND A SECOND BY

20:10:12 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:10:14 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:10:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN OUR FORMER

20:10:19 MAYOR DICK GRECO HAS A BIRTHDAY, AND I WANT TO WISH HIM

20:10:21 A HAPPY BIRTHDAY, 86 YEARS OLD.

20:10:25 AND I WILL NOT BE PRESENTING HIM A COMMENDATION, BUT I

20:10:28 WANTED TO TAKE NOTE.

20:10:31 >> COUNCILMAN CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR CITY OF

20:10:34 TAMPA LEGAL STAFF FROM KEEPING SECRET TO THE

20:10:37 COMMENDATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO MS MORA TODAY.

20:10:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:10:42 YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF NOT LETTING MS MORA KNOW.

20:10:45 IN THAT CASE, WHAT I HAVE TO ASK FOR IS MOVE THAT MISS

20:10:49 KRISTIN MORA GET A COMMENDATION OF WONDERFUL THREE

20:10:53 YEARS OF EXEMPLARY SERVICE WITH THE LEGAL STAFF OF THE

20:10:54 CITY OF COMPANY.

20:10:59 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO AND SECOND BY

20:11:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:11:04 ALSO TO MS THETA JAMES.

20:11:07 SHE HAS GIVEN 27 YEARS TO SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC

20:11:09 DEFENDER OFFICE, AND SHE IS RETIRING.













20:11:12 AND HER -- HER HEARTFELT THANK YOU FOR JUSTICE FOR ALL

20:11:13 FOR THE CITIZENS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

20:11:14 >> SECOND.

20:11:17 >> WE HAVE A MOTION -- YES, SIR?

20:11:20 >> IS THAT TO BE PRESENTED TO HER OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL?

20:11:22 >> OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL.

20:11:27 >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO AND A SECOND BY

20:11:29 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:11:30 ALL IN FAVOR.

20:11:31 OPPOSED.

20:11:36 >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR HONORABLE JANE

20:11:41 CASTOR TO JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL CELEBRATING THEIR 120TH

20:11:41 YEAR.

20:11:46 THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

20:11:47 >> EIGHT COMMENDATIONS.

20:11:51 >> TO BE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

20:11:51 [ LAUGHTER ]

20:11:54 >> REQUEST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A MOTION FOR

20:11:59 ADOPTION HEAR FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA '20 THROUGH '24

20:12:03 FOR SECTION CIS SCHEDULE A PROJECTS UPDATING ON EVENING

20:12:08 OF OCTOBER 24, 2019 AND 5:01 P.M.

20:12:09 >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

20:12:13 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

20:12:15 CITRO.

20:12:18 ANY OPPOSED -- ANY IN FAVOR.













20:12:20 ANYTHING ELSE?

20:12:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

20:12:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, I ASKED

20:12:28 -- I ASKED FOR A MOTION TO -- TO CONTACT THE PLANNING

20:12:30 COMMISSION ABOUT DOING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT

20:12:34 PLANS AND THEY RESPONDED -- I THINK THEY CC'ED ALL OF

20:12:34 YOU ALL.

20:12:36 AND THEN -- I WORKED WITH THEM OVER OF THE LAST 24

20:12:39 HOURS OR SO TO COME UP WITH A MOTION.

20:12:42 SO WHAT THEY ARE -- WHAT THEIR NEW PROPOSAL IS INSTEAD

20:12:46 OF GIVING GRANT MONEY, WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS PRO BONO

20:12:50 DO A COMMUNITY PLAN OR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AROUND THESE

20:12:51 AREAS.

20:12:54 AND THAT MEANS BECAUSE PRO BONO AND BRING IN OTHER

20:12:58 AGENCIES THAT WOULD BE WORTH A LOST LOT MORE THAN THE

20:13:01 10,000 OR 20,000 WE WERE PROPOSING.

20:13:04 THE THING I WANTED TO DO TO GET THE AREA AROUND MACDILL

20:13:07 AND BAY TO BAY PLANNED.

20:13:12 A CONFLICT OVER THE BAY TO BAY PLAN A FEW MONTHS AGO

20:13:14 AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BADLY WANTS TO BE PLANNED.

20:13:17 AS I WAS DOING IT, I REQUESTED THAT WE GET AT LEAST ONE

20:13:18 IN EACH DISTRICT.

20:13:22 SO THAT WE COULD DO THIS AS A BETA TEST.

20:13:25 AND IF WE GET MORE MONEY, THEN MAYBE WE CAN DO ALL 130

20:13:27 COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.













20:13:31 ANYWAY, WHAT THEY COME BACK AND PROPOSED IS WE WOULD

20:13:34 REQUEST ONE PER YEAR FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

20:13:38 AND WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHICH DISTRICT AND WHICH AREA

20:13:39 WITHIN A DISTRICT.

20:13:42 WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD ASK YOU

20:13:44 ALL WHEN THEY COME BACK IF WE COULD DO THAT AREA IN

20:13:46 SOUTH TAMPA FIRST.

20:13:49 AND IF WE END UP WITH AN ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION PLAN

20:13:51 MONEY, WE WON'T NEED ANY OF THIS IN THE FUTURE.

20:13:53 MAYBE BUT ONE PER YEAR.

20:13:56 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT THE

20:13:58 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY

20:14:01 OF TAMPA STAFF OF DEVELOPING AN APPROACH TOWARD THE

20:14:02 ESTABLISHMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT

20:14:03 PLANS.

20:14:05 THIS APPROACH WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR

20:14:07 CONSIDERATION WITH THE GOAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION,

20:14:10 CITY STAFF, AND POTENTIAL ASSISTANCE OF PARTNER

20:14:14 AGENCIES TO DEVELOP A DISTRICT PLAN IN EACH COUNCIL

20:14:19 DISTRICT EACH YEAR OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO BE

20:14:23 DETERMINED BY COUNCILMAN.

20:14:26 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECOND BY

20:14:27 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

20:14:28 ANYTHING ELSE?

20:14:31 >> THE BUDGET WE APPROVED LAST WEEK WITH THE PIPES













20:14:33 BEING PUT IN.

20:14:36 NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY HISTORIC HYDE PARK THAT HAVE

20:14:39 BRICK STREETS AND HAVE BRICK UNDERNEATH ASPHALT.

20:14:42 AND THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO

20:14:42 THE BRICKS.

20:14:46 THEY DON'T WANT THE BRICK TO BE RIPPED UP AND THROWN

20:14:46 AWAY.

20:14:49 THEY DON'T WANT THE BRICK TO BE TAKEN AND HAULED AWAY

20:14:50 SOMEWHERE ELSE.

20:14:53 THEY ASKED ME IF WE COULD PLEASE REQUEST STAFF TO COME

20:14:56 BACK AND REPORT TO US ON WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO WITH THE

20:15:00 BRICKS AS THEY ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE ROADS.

20:15:02 >> DO YOU HAVE A DATE ATTACHED TO THAT?

20:15:04 >> NO, I AM SORRY.

20:15:05 I DON'T.

20:15:06 >> A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT.

20:15:08 WHILE SEVERAL OF US ARE COMMENTING.

20:15:09 I GOT THE SAME E-MAIL.

20:15:13 ALREADY AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BRICKS.

20:15:16 I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THE BRICKS ARE UNDER EXISTING

20:15:18 ASPHALT.

20:15:21 I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT ORDINANCE COMES INTO

20:15:24 PLAY, BUT CLEARLY CURRENTLY A BRICK STREET.

20:15:26 THE ORDINANCE IS THERE.

20:15:28 >> MAINLY THEY ARE WORRIED OF THE ONES UNDERNEATH













20:15:30 ASPHALT.

20:15:31 >> UNDERNEATH ASPHALT.

20:15:34 I AM NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS IN THAT REGARD.

20:15:35 GO FOR IT.

20:15:35 >> OKAY.

20:15:37 AND WHAT DATE?

20:15:38 >> WHAT DATE, SIR?

20:15:39 >> I AM SORRY.

20:15:41 I DIDN'T HAVE ONE.

20:15:43 >> HOW LONG DO YOU WANT TO GIVE STAFF.

20:15:46 >> WE CAN COME BACK WHENEVER WE HAVE TIME ON THE

20:15:47 SCHEDULE.

20:15:49 >> OCTOBER DATES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?

20:15:51 21ST?

20:15:57 >> THE OCTOBER 24 IS A WORKSHOP SESSION.

20:15:59 AND YOU HAVE -- THAT IS A VERY FULL SESSION, OCTOBER

20:16:00 24.

20:16:03 THE 17TH IS QUITE FULL WITH STAFF REPORTS.

20:16:04 >> HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER.

20:16:07 >> NOVEMBER 7 IS PRETTY WIDE --

20:16:09 >> HOW MANY STAFF REPORTS?

20:16:11 >> FOR THAT ONE, PRESENTLY TWO.

20:16:12 >> OKAY, GOOD.

20:16:19 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECOND -- SECOND BY

20:16:21 COUNCILMAN CITRO.













20:16:22 ALL IN FAVOR.

20:16:24 ANY OPPOSED.

20:16:24 ANYTHING ELSE?

20:16:28 >> I HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTED PARTIES TALK ABOUT

20:16:31 BENCHES IN GASLIGHT PARK AND RUMORS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

20:16:34 AND WILL YOU BE OKAY IF WE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WHAT

20:16:39 IS HAPPENING WITH THE BENCHES.

20:16:41 >> TELL THAT YOU THEY ARE BEYOND REPAIR AND REPLACE

20:16:44 THEM -- AND BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.

20:16:45 I WILL SECOND THEN.

20:16:47 >> DO YOU HAVE A DATE?

20:16:48 >> DO NOVEMBER 7.

20:16:53 PROBABLY RESOLVED BEFORE THEN BUT MAKE A MOTION THAT WE

20:16:53 ARE INTERESTED.

20:16:55 >> ALL IN FAVOR.

20:16:55 >> AYE.

20:16:57 ANY OPPOSED.

20:16:57 OKAY.

20:17:01 JUST VERY BRIEFLY, GENTLEMEN, WITH -- I AM NOT MAKING

20:17:02 ANY MOTIONS.

20:17:06 WITH REGARDS TO ESPECIALLY DAY AND MORNING MEETINGS.

20:17:10 I AM GOING TO BE PUTTING FORTH WHAT I CALL -- I DON'T

20:17:13 WANT TO CALL THEM TEN COMMANDMENTS BUT TEN STRONG

20:17:14 SUGGESTIONS.

20:17:17 PROBABLY NOT TEN AND DEAL WITH A COUPLE OF ISSUES.













20:17:19 LOOK I WANT TO STATE THIS.

20:17:21 BEFORE I WAS CHAIR, IN MY FIRST TWO AND A HALF YEARS,

20:17:23 THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

20:17:29 I -- I WAS OFTEN WITH ME AND COUNCILMAN REDDICK A JOKE

20:17:32 OF COMMENDATIONS AND I GET THAT 110%.

20:17:34 COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

20:17:37 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR RULES FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,

20:17:42 THEY ACTUALLY PRECLUDE 100% ESSENTIALLY OF COUNCIL

20:17:45 INTERACTION WITH THE PRESIDENT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

20:17:47 I DON'T ENFORCE THAT BECAUSE WE LIKE TO TALK TO THE

20:17:47 PUBLIC.

20:17:51 SAYING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE IT BUT MAYBE I DID,

20:17:55 YOU CAN'T CHANGE PEOPLE BUT TAME THEIR EXCESSES.

20:17:58 WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS TAME THE EXCESSES BECAUSE

20:18:01 PUBLIC COMMENT OFTEN BECOMES A TOWN HALL, AND

20:18:03 ESSENTIALLY WE ARE TRYING TO RUN MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE

20:18:06 ARE WAITING FOR HEARINGS, LAND USE DEVELOPMENT

20:18:09 HEARINGS, REZONING HEARINGS.

20:18:11 ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND NOTHING WRONG WITH ENGAGING

20:18:16 THE PUBLIC, BUT MODEST LIMITATIONS ON THAT SO WE CAN

20:18:20 CONTINUE TO HAVE HEARINGS ON ISSUES SUCH AS SPEAKING.

20:18:22 STAFF REPORTS.

20:18:24 I AM CHECKING ON STAFF REPORTS.

20:18:26 EIGHT OR NINE STAFF REPORTS.

20:18:29 SOMETHING THAT TAKES US A LONG TIME AND COMMENDATIONS.













20:18:33 I WANT TO EMPHASIZE SEPTEMBER 19, TWO COMMENDATIONS.

20:18:34 THEY ARE BOTH MINE.

20:18:37 I AM NOT THROWING STONES HERE IN A GLASS HOUSE.

20:18:40 I AM TRYING TO CREATE A BETTER HOUSE, IF YOU WILL.

20:18:42 CERTAIN THINGS I WILL BE PROPOSING.

20:18:45 NOTHING DRACONIAN.

20:18:46 EVERYBODY IS MY FRIEND.

20:18:51 AND I WANT TO TAME THE EXCESSES.

20:18:57 >> WITH REGARDS TO STAFF REPORTS AND STAFF TALKING TO

20:19:01 US ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE THERE -- THAT COME UP

20:19:07 WANT DAY OR TWO OF THE MEETING, CHIEF BENNETT AND I

20:19:10 HAVE DISCUSSIONS, AND, AGAIN, THIS RELATES TO THEM NOT

20:19:19 SHOWING UP BUT HE CLEARLY INDICATED THEY WOULD BE

20:19:22 THRILLED IF WE GIVE THEM A TIME CERTAIN IN A

20:19:25 NEIGHBORHOOD OF 10 OR 10:30, WHATEVER IS REASONABLE AND

20:19:29 THIS WAY THEY KNOW WHEN TO BE HERE AND CHANCES ARE IN

20:19:32 AND OUT WITHIN AN HOUR, AND WE CAN LUMP THEM ALL

20:19:35 TOGETHER AND SAVE STAFF TIME.

20:19:37 AND THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.

20:19:40 >> AND I AGREE 100% ON THAT.

20:19:42 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

20:19:46 WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF ITEMS, I DON'T WANT THE

20:19:49 PUBLIC TO BE SITTING THERE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF BUT A

20:19:51 REASONABLE TIME.

20:19:54 REASONABLY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS.













20:19:56 NOTHING DRACONIAN, TWO OR THREE.

20:20:00 >> THOSE ARE STAFF REPORTS THAT ARE PRESCHEDULED.

20:20:02 SOME THAT RELATE TO --

20:20:04 >> YEP.

20:20:08 THAT WE CAN'T PREVENT SO LONG AS THE PROPER PROTOCOLS.

20:20:12 LOOKING TO TAME THE EXCESSES SO WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS WHO

20:20:15 ARE HERE FOR 10:30 OR WHATEVER.

20:20:19 YOU KNOW, ATTORNEYS WHO ARE BILLING CLIENTS.

20:20:23 JUST TO TRIM THE FAT SO TO SPEAK.

20:20:26 I WILL BE PUTTING FORTH SOME PROPOSED CHANGES AND TALK

20:20:28 ABOUT THEM AND HAVE A DIALOGUE AND HAVE A MEETING SINCE

20:20:31 IT IS PROCEDURE AND NOT SUBSTANCE, CORRECT?

20:20:34 >> IT WILL BE A NOTICED MEETING BUT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE

20:20:35 TELEVISED.

20:20:38 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THESE CHAMBERS.

20:20:39 >> ANYBODY ELSE?

20:20:41 >> AND REGULATION.

20:20:43 >> ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

20:20:46 >> AND AS I SAY TO COUNCIL, THEY ARE COUNCIL'S RULES.

20:20:52 AND IF THE RULES AND THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE REQUIRES

20:20:55 THOSE RULES TO BE CHANGE, AND THERE IS A PROCESS TO DO

20:20:55 THAT.

20:20:59 THE RULES ARE CREATED FOR COUNCIL'S BENEFIT.

20:21:02 >> YEP, ONE THING -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR

20:21:04 RULES, VERY CONSERVATIVE.













20:21:07 COMMENTS ARE DONE DURING WORKSHOP.

20:21:09 I DON'T FOLLOW THAT.

20:21:14 MARY BRYANT SAID COMMENDATIONS ARE ALL WE GOT TO

20:21:16 EXPRESS OUR VALUES IN COMMUNITY.

20:21:19 I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF THEM.

20:21:23 LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS OF THE

20:21:24 EXCESS.

20:21:28 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:21:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO SAY OF COMMENDATIONS

20:21:34 WHAT THAT LIMIT MAY BE FOR CERTAIN DAY.

20:21:38 IF YOU WERE GOING SAY A WORKSHOP DAY, THAT IS THE DAY

20:21:40 WE DO ALL COMMENDATIONS.

20:21:42 I WON'T WANT TO SAY LIMIT TO ONE OR TWO.

20:21:45 IF YOU GOT A WHOLE COUNCIL OF SEVEN PEOPLE.

20:21:48 SO, I MEAN, BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WELL THAT WE HAVE A

20:21:51 COUNCIL OF SEVEN AND EVERYBODY HAS A COMMENDATION.

20:21:53 THOSE DATES MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE AT ALL TIMES.

20:21:57 MAKE SURE IF WE DO SOMETHING, WE LIMIT IT AND HAVE A

20:22:01 DECENT LIMIT AND THIS WAY -- OR A WORKSHOP DAY WITH

20:22:02 MULTIPLE.

20:22:07 LOOK AT THAT AND ALSO TOWARD PUBLIC COMMENT.

20:22:11 THE RULE ABOUT -- THE STATUTE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

20:22:12 WHAT IS IT.

20:22:17 >> THE COUNCIL SHOULD AVOID ENGAGING THE PUBLIC DURING

20:22:19 PUBLIC COMMENT.













20:22:20 >> DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN'T.

20:22:22 I LOOK AT PUBLIC COMMENT.

20:22:25 I AM JUST CANDID WITH IT.

20:22:29 THERE IS A CHANCE FOR THE PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR SAY.

20:22:33 AND I NEVER WANT TO BE A COUNCILMAN AND LEGITIMATE

20:22:36 CONCERN FROM A CONSTITUENT FROM THAT PODIUM.

20:22:40 AND I SIT THERE LIKE A BUMP ON A LOG AND DO NOTHING AND

20:22:41 SAY NOTHING.

20:22:43 IT IS WRONG AND IRRESPONSIBLE.

20:22:47 AND I JUST CAN'T SEE MYSELF OR THE PERSON THAT I AM NOT

20:22:49 TO ENGAGE WITH A PERSON WHEN I KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG

20:22:53 AND THEY ARE TAKING IT THEIR HEART, THEIR TIME TO COME

20:22:55 DOWN HERE AND SPREAD THEIR CONCERN BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T

20:22:56 BEEN HEARD.

20:23:01 I AM VERY CAUTIOUS TO LOOK AT THAT, AND FOR ME, THAT IS

20:23:05 A VERY SERIOUS SUBJECT FOR ME ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH YOU

20:23:12 100% AND I AM NOT PRECLUDING OR ENFORCE THE 100% --

20:23:15 THERE ARE MOMENTS -- I WOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I WOULD

20:23:16 FALL VICTIM TO THAT.

20:23:20 BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS CAN BE HANDLED OUTSIDE OF

20:23:23 COUNCIL AND CERTAIN THINGS TO GIVE A CALL, ET CETERA.

20:23:26 CERTAIN THINGS, HEY, LISTEN, I WANT TO TALK RIGHT NOW,

20:23:27 RIGHT HERE.

20:23:28 I AM SAYING TO TAME THE EXCESSES.

20:23:29 THAT'S ALL.













20:23:31 I AM NOT GOING TO PRECLUDE IT.

20:23:35 I THINK THAT WILL BE DRACONIAN AND NOT CONSISTENT WITH

20:23:37 WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

20:23:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:23:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING ALL OF

20:23:41 THESE.

20:23:45 I THINK ACCOMMODATIONS SHOULD BE -- WE SHOULD TRY TO

20:23:49 LIMIT THEM TO X AMOUNT OF TIME.

20:23:52 MAYBE THREE TO FIVE MINUTES, WHEN POSSIBLE.

20:23:58 I THINK PRESENTATIONS FROM OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO COME IN

20:24:01 TO TELL US ABOUT WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING.

20:24:04 AGAIN SHOULD -- WE SHOULD GIVE THEM GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT

20:24:08 THE EXPECTED TIME IS, FIVE TO TEN MINUTES.

20:24:11 AND ALSO, AND STEVE, I AM GLAD YOU ARE HERE.

20:24:18 ON BLANK OF THE MONTH, OKAY, THOSE GET A LITTLE LONG

20:24:21 FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, AND PART OF THAT IS THE GIFT

20:24:25 THING IS -- IT HAS JUST GONE CRAZY SINCE I LEFT EIGHT

20:24:26 YEARS AGO.

20:24:29 WHICH IS -- IT IS WONDERFUL FOR PEOPLE.

20:24:31 BUT IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

20:24:35 AND SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE AN ADVERTISEMENT.

20:24:39 SO MAYBE WE CAN -- YOU CAN TALK TO STEVE AND SAY, MAYBE

20:24:42 WE CAN LIMIT THE GIFTS TO FIVE GIFTS PER PERSON OR

20:24:43 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

20:24:47 AND, AGAIN, I AM JUST TALKING OF EXPEDIENCY OF TIME













20:24:50 BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING STUFF GOING ON.

20:24:53 BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE MEAT OF OUR AGENDA.

20:24:58 >> WITH REGARDS TO THE POLICE OFFICERS, EMPLOYEE OF THE

20:25:01 MONTH OR OF THE QUARTER AND WHATEVER IT MAY BE,

20:25:03 PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THE GIFTS ARE THE MAJOR

20:25:05 CONTRIBUTING CAUSE OF THINGS.

20:25:07 I JUST THINK THAT IS MY OPINION.

20:25:11 BUT IF OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY UP THERE.

20:25:13 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DONE.

20:25:23 BUT THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:25:26 PUBLIC COMMENT IS PART OF THAT WHERE, AGAIN, I REMEMBER

20:25:30 WHEN A GENTLEMAN DURING THE OLD COUNCIL CAME TO SPEAK

20:25:30 TO US.

20:25:34 HE WAS HAVING A RALLY FOR MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS AND

20:25:38 DISCLOSED THAT HIS SON HAD -- SO TRAGIC.

20:25:40 RUN AWAY FROM HIS MENTAL INSTITUTION.

20:25:43 RAN AWAY FROM HOME AND HE WANTED US TO COME AND GO TO A

20:25:47 RALLY THAT WEEK AT USF AND I SPOKE TO HIM AT LENGTH.

20:25:50 I AM NOT PRECLUDING THAT 100%.

20:25:51 YOU CAN'T CHANGE PEOPLE.

20:25:52 TAME THE EXCESS.

20:25:54 THAT'S ALL I AM ASKING.

20:25:55 YES, SIR.

20:25:58 >> I THINK DIALOGUE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

20:25:59 AND YOU ALL ARE SAYING THAT.













20:26:02 I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS INSTEAD OF

20:26:04 LIMITING THE DIALOGUE.

20:26:07 I THINK IT IS FAIR IF -- IF WE DON'T -- IF WE HAVE TOO

20:26:10 MANY ITEMS BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 7, I HAVE TO PUT AN

20:26:13 EVENT -- A DISCUSSION ON NOVEMBER 7.

20:26:17 AND IT WILL BE GREAT IF WE CAN ADDRESS MORE ISSUES AND

20:26:19 GREAT TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE -- THE OTHER THING LIKE I

20:26:20 SAID THIS MORNING.

20:26:23 THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT NOT BECAUSE -- IT IS NOT

20:26:24 BECAUSE WE ARE NEW.

20:26:29 BUT BECAUSE I THINK WE -- WE BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE

20:26:32 PROCESSES SHOULD BE CHANGED AND THE -- IT LOOKS LIKE

20:26:35 THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND OTHERS THINK THAT

20:26:37 PROCESSES SHOULD BE CHANGED.

20:26:39 AS THOSE PROCESSES ARE CHANGING, IT IS TAKING MORE TIME

20:26:41 TO DISCUSS THINGS.

20:26:44 AS THE -- ONCE THE PROCESSES ARE CHANGED IN THE NEXT

20:26:47 FEW MONTHS, I THINK THINGS WILL MOVE A LOT FASTER TOO.

20:26:48 >> SURE.

20:26:50 AND AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WITH THIS.

20:26:53 I AM NOT POINTING THE FINGER AT ANYBODY, BECAUSE IF YOU

20:26:57 LOOK AT THE TWO COMMENDATIONS NEXT WEEK, THEY ARE BOTH

20:27:00 MINE.

20:27:02 I APPRECIATE IT 100%.

20:27:03 WE ARE WITH FRIENDS.













20:27:05 >> A MOTION AND RECEIVED.

20:27:08 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY

20:27:10 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

20:27:11 ANY OPPOSED.

20:27:13 >> ARE YOU ADJOURNED SIR.

20:27:14 >> YES, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

20:27:17 >> I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE RECORD ALL OF OUR

20:27:20 APPRECIATION FOR KRISTIN'S WORK AND A GREAT ASSET TO

20:27:21 THE CITY.

20:27:22 HATE TO SEE HER GO.

20:27:24 >> WHERE ARE YOU GOING AGAIN?

20:27:25 >> TECO.

20:27:30 [MEETING ADJOURNED]

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