CITY OF TAMPA
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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8:58:22AM
9:05:34AM >> DINGFELDER?
9:05:35AM GUDES?
9:05:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:05:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:38AM >> CITRO?
9:05:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:05:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:05:43AM WHO HAS THE INVOCATION?
9:05:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS MORNING, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO
9:05:49AM INTRODUCE ONCE AGAIN MR. STEVE MICHELINI WHO DOES AN
9:05:53AM OUTSTANDING JOB WITH THE PRAYER.
9:05:55AM HE IS MY PRAYER GIVER ABOUT 80% OF THE TIME.
9:05:57AM MR. MICHELINI, FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE.
9:06:00AM HE'S HERE TODAY TO DO THE PRAYER.
9:06:02AM PLEASE RISE FOR THE PRAYER AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:06:05AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:06:05AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING.
9:06:08AM DEAR LORD, THE LORD DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE.
9:06:11AM THE LORD BESTOWS CHALLENGES AS WELL AS GOOD FORTUNE.
9:06:15AM EQUALLY TO THE WEALTHY, THE POOR, THE STRONG, AND THE
9:06:19AM INFIRMED, THE WEAK, AND THE POWERFUL.
9:06:21AM NO ONE ESCAPES THE CRITICAL EYE OF THE ALL-SEEING OR THE
9:06:25AM SAVING GRACE.
9:06:26AM EVENTS ARE NOT ALWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM AND APPARENT SUCCESS AT
9:06:30AM ONE TIME IS FREQUENTLY ACCOMPANIED BY UNEXPECTED AND
9:06:33AM CONSEQUENTIAL FAILURE AT ANOTHER.
9:06:35AM FAILURE IS NOT ALWAYS BAD AND SUCCESS IS NOT ALWAYS GOOD.
9:06:39AM MEASURE YOUR SUCCESSES AND APPARENT FAILURES AND SUCCESSES
9:06:43AM EQUALLY.
9:06:43AM THE LORD HAS NO AGENDA AND NO TIMETABLE.
9:06:47AM AND THE CHILD LOOKS HEAVENWARD AND ASKS THE LORD, WHY IS
9:06:51AM THERE PAIN?
9:06:51AM WHY IS THERE HURT, LOSS, DESTRUCTION, SUFFERING, AND HUNGER
9:06:56AM AND OTHER CHALLENGES?
9:06:57AM WHY ARE THERE STORMS THAT HURT PEOPLE AND DASH THEIR EARTHLY
9:07:01AM DREAMS?
9:07:02AM WHY DO PEOPLE LOSE FAITH, HAVE BROKEN HEARTS, BROKEN DREAMS,
9:07:05AM AND THE LOSS OF HOPE?
9:07:07AM AND THE LORD SAID WITHOUT THESE CHALLENGES YOU WOULD NOT
9:07:10AM KNOW THE LIGHT OF DAY, THE BEAUTIFUL AND PRECIOUS NATURE OF
9:07:14AM LIFE, THE GOOD EARTH, A PEACEFUL LIFE, THE OCEANS AND SEAS,
9:07:18AM THE BLUE SKIES, AND THE DAY AND THE STAR-FILLED NIGHTS.
9:07:21AM THE MAJESTIC MOVE AN ORDINANCE AND THE PEACEFUL WATERS AND
9:07:25AM ALL THE ANIMALS OF THE AIR, LAND AND SEA.
9:07:27AM THE HOLY GRACE OF THE LORD RESIDES IN ALL OF THESE AND IN
9:07:32AM YOU.
9:07:33AM THESE ELEMENTS OF LIFE HELP BELIEVERS TO STRENGTHEN THEIR
9:07:35AM RESOLVE AND NONBELIEVERS TO FIND THE LORD AND KEEP HIM DEAR.
9:07:38AM TRIALS BRING GREATER REWARDS.
9:07:40AM WHO AMONG US DOES NOT MARVEL AT THE BOUNTIFUL TREASURES OF
9:07:44AM THE EARTH?
9:07:45AM WHY DOES THE LORD CHALLENGE US?
9:07:46AM IT'S NOT CLEAR, BUT EVERY CHALLENGE CARRIES A MESSAGE.
9:07:49AM AN INTENT, A LESSON, AN EXPERIENCE, DESIGNED TO EDUCATE AND
9:07:55AM LEAD US TO A BETTER PLACE TO A DEVOTIONAL PRAYER FOR ALL OF
9:07:59AM OUR THANKS GIVINGS.
9:08:01AM BE EVER MINDFUL THAT WHAT YOU ASK FOR IN PRAYER AS THE
9:08:04AM LORD'S ANSWER MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU EXPECT.
9:08:06AM BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE IN EVERY RESPECT SO MANY
9:08:10AM OTHERS HAVE LESS.
9:08:11AM WE ASK THAT YOUR HOLY GRACE AND THE PROTECTION BE BESTOWED
9:08:14AM UPON THE TEACHERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, THE ARMED FORCES,
9:08:17AM ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY
9:08:21AM THE DEVASTATING STORMS.
9:08:25AM COMFORT THOSE IN NEED.
9:08:26AM HELP THEM FIND HOLY GRACE AND SALVATION.
9:08:28AM IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.
9:08:30AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:08:46AM BEFORE WE DO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, I WANTED TO BRIEFLY
9:08:48AM REVIEW THAT TODAY WE'RE BEGINNING WITH WHAT WE CALL THE
9:08:53AM 10 A.M. RULE, WHICH IS AT 10 A.M. THAT ALL STAFF HERE TO
9:08:59AM SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS WILL BE GOING FORWARD AT 10 A.M. ON THOSE
9:09:02AM ITEMS SO WE CAN HAVE A TIME CERTAIN SO WE CAN MOST
9:09:05AM EFFECTIVELY UTILIZE THE TIME OF STAFF AND WHATNOT.
9:09:10AM ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE ITEMS PRESENTLY 28,
9:09:13AM 40, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE BEING PULLED, 69, 70, 71, AND 72 AT
9:09:18AM 10 A.M., SO JUST TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT FOR EVERYBODY.
9:09:22AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, MAY I HAVE -- GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:09:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:09:33AM LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 73 TO A FUTURE
9:09:39AM DATE, NOVEMBER 7th.
9:09:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:09:45AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:09:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:09:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND 69, 70, 71 WERE COMOVED BY
9:09:56AM MR. DINGFELDER, WHO IS OUT TODAY.
9:09:59AM CONTINUE THOSE TO ANOTHER DATE.
9:10:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE CONTINUING ITEMS 69, 70, AND 71.
9:10:08AM DO YOU HAVE A DATE PRESENTLY, SIR?
9:10:10AM WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
9:10:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO PICK A DATE AND HAVE IT
9:10:15AM MOVED TODAY SO IT'S ON NOTICE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION.
9:10:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A DATE WE HAVE AN OPENING?
9:10:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT, THE LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER, MAYBE THE
9:10:27AM FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER?
9:10:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT FOR STAFF TO APPEAR FOR A REPORT.
9:10:35AM I SEE HERE PROVIDE A REPORT.
9:10:37AM IS THAT FOR STAFF TO APPEAR WITH A REPORT?
9:10:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: TO APPEAR AND DISCUSS, TO APPEAR AND DISCUSS,
9:10:44AM TO APPEAR AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
9:10:48AM IT WOULD APPEAR THEY ARE APPEARING.
9:10:49AM WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION PRESENTLY SO THE STAFF DOESN'T
9:10:53AM APPEAR.
9:10:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PRESENT MOTION IS FOR AN APPEARANCE AND
9:10:58AM REPORT.
9:10:58AM THE QUESTION, COUNCIL, WITH REGARD TO OCTOBER, YOUR LAST
9:11:02AM MEETING IN OCTOBER IS OCTOBER 17th.
9:11:04AM YOU HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN STAFF
9:11:08AM REPORTS.
9:11:09AM ON NOVEMBER 7 YOU HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS NOVEMBER 7 OKAY?
9:11:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO NOVEMBER 7.
9:11:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:11:18AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:11:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:20AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:11:21AM THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEMS 69, 70, 71.
9:11:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN I ASKED THAT 28 BE PULLED.
9:11:29AM DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT?
9:11:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO AT 10 A.M. WE'LL BE HEARING JUST FOR
9:11:35AM EVERYBODY WATCHING 28, 40, AND 72.
9:11:38AM JUST FOR THE RECORD.
9:11:40AM MAY -- WITH THAT BEING SAID, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE
9:11:43AM AGENDA.
9:11:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST ONE MORE ADDITIONAL ITEM.
9:11:47AM WITH REGARD TO THE WALK-ON PROPOSED BY SAL TERRITO, DID YOU
9:11:53AM WANT TO TAKE THAT AT 10 A.M.
9:11:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:11:58AM WE'RE ALSO PUTTING THE WALK-ON AT 10 A.M.
9:12:01AM WE HAVE A MOTION, I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:12:03AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:12:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:07AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:12:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
9:12:11AM JUST ONE LAST TIME FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, THERE IS
9:12:13AM A 10:30 ITEM.
9:12:14AM ITEM NUMBER 67, CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING RELATING TO A
9:12:18AM VACATING AN ALLEY AT 608 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE, BUT THE
9:12:21AM PUBLIC SHOULD BE ON NOTICE THAT THE PETITIONER'S
9:12:24AM REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE REQUESTING THAT THAT ITEM BE
9:12:26AM WITHDRAWN.
9:12:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:12:29AM WE'LL MOVE TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:12:32AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE
9:12:35AM COMMITTEE.
9:12:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS MY PLEASURE TODAY TO INTRODUCE THE
9:12:37AM MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE.
9:12:39AM IN FACT, I SAW THEM DOWN STAIRS, BUT I WAS IN A HURRY TO
9:12:44AM CATCH THE ELEVATOR.
9:12:46AM MY APOLOGIES TO THEM.
9:12:47AM THEY ARE HERE TO TELL US ABOUT THE GOOD THINGS COMING WITH
9:12:50AM THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE.
9:12:52AM I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THE
9:12:54AM YEARS.
9:12:55AM YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:12:56AM >> THANK YOU.
9:12:57AM THANK YOU ALL, COUNCILMAN.
9:12:58AM MY NAME IS JULIO.
9:13:00AM I AM THE CHAIRPERSON FOR OUR MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE
9:13:03AM COMMITTEE.
9:13:03AM THIS YEAR, WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 31st CELEBRATION, AND
9:13:08AM JUST WOULD LIKE TO CORDIALLY INVITE YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL OF
9:13:12AM OUR COMMITTEE TO COME OUT AND ENJOY OUR FESTIVITIES THIS
9:13:15AM YEAR.
9:13:16AM IT'S OCTOBER THE 22nd, TUESDAY, FROM 11 TO 12:00.
9:13:21AM LINDA HURTADO WILL STILL BE OUR MASTER OF CEREMONIES.
9:13:25AM OUR GUEST SPEAKER THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE ANTHONY PEREZ.
9:13:28AM HE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF BANK OF TAMPA.
9:13:32AM WE HAVE SOME ENTERTAINMENT.
9:13:33AM IT WILL BE DANCE GROUPS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SHOWCASE
9:13:41AM SOME OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:13:43AM TAMPA GYM AND DANCE AND THEIR SHOW STARS.
9:13:46AM WE'LL HAVE THAT GOING ON.
9:13:48AM WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL AGAIN TO COME OUT AND ENJOY
9:13:52AM THE FESTIVITIES.
9:13:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PLEASE INTRODUCE THE MEMBERS OF YOUR
9:13:55AM COMMITTEE.
9:13:55AM >> YES, WE HAVE MICHELLE GONZALEZ, FORMER PRESIDENT.
9:14:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT THING DOESN'T BITE.
9:14:11AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:14:14AM >> DWAYNE.
9:14:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE'S STILL ALIVE.
9:14:18AM LOOK AT HIM.
9:14:22AM >> WE HAVE MORE THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE WITH US TODAY.
9:14:25AM THIS COMMITTEE PUTS IN A LOT OF WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR
9:14:28AM THE SPECIAL EVENT.
9:14:30AM AS YOU SAW LAST YEAR, WE HAD A WONDERFUL TURNOUT.
9:14:34AM SO WE'D LIKE TO AGAIN INVITE EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO OUR
9:14:39AM CELEBRATION.
9:14:39AM IT WILL BE OUR NEW MAYOR, JANE CASTOR'S FIRST CELEBRATION
9:14:44AM WITH US.
9:14:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE
9:14:46AM PAST YEARS.
9:14:47AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE, KEEPING
9:14:50AM THE HISPANIC COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND DOING THE REPRESENTATION
9:14:52AM YOU DO YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.
9:14:54AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:14:57AM >> I CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THIS COMMITTEE.
9:14:59AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:15:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:15:01AM ANYONE ELSE?
9:15:02AM I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
9:15:05AM I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS CITY'S DIVERSE AND PLURALISTIC
9:15:10AM HISTORY, THAT INCLUDES OUR HISPANIC AND LATINO HERITAGE.
9:15:13AM MYSELF, AS A PROUD SON OF CUBAN REFUGEES, I'M ALWAYS VERY,
9:15:16AM VERY PROUD OF THAT.
9:15:17AM [ SPEAKING SPANISH ]
9:16:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, CHAIRMAN VIERA WOULD LIKE TO
9:16:53AM WELCOME UP THE MEDAL OF HONOR CONVENTION ORGANIZERS.
9:16:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:16:59AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE HERE TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS
9:17:01AM REPRESENTING THE MEDAL OF HONOR CONVENTION, WHICH ON
9:17:05AM OCTOBER 22nd THROUGH 26th WILL BE HERE IN THE CITY OF
9:17:08AM TAMPA.
9:17:09AM WE HAVE VARIOUS DISTINGUISHED GUESTS WITH US TODAY WHO WE
9:17:12AM ARE REALLY, REALLY HONORED TO HAVE.
9:17:14AM THE CHAIR OF THE MEDAL OF HONOR CONVENTION, MR. MARK
9:17:16AM VANTRIST.
9:17:19AM BOARD MEMBER COMMAND SERGEANT MAJOR FRANK GRIPPY.
9:17:21AM WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT, WHO WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE HERE WITH
9:17:25AM US, MAJOR GENERAL LARRY MARTIN.
9:17:27AM WE HAVE HERE WITH MEDIA, MR. TRAVIS HORN, WHO IS HERE.
9:17:30AM MY COLLEAGUE AS WELL.
9:17:33AM MR. TRAVIS IS AN ATTORNEY WHO IS SMART ENOUGH TO NOT
9:17:36AM PRACTICE LAW.
9:17:37AM WE ALSO HAVE MY COLLEAGUE OVER HERE, THE CHAIR FOR THE
9:17:39AM MEMORIAL AND ALSO MY FRIEND, MR. BILL MITCHELL, WHO'S HERE.
9:17:43AM I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T,
9:17:46AM WE HAVE A BRIGADIER GENERAL IN THE AUDIENCE HERE WITH US
9:17:49AM TODAY.
9:17:50AM BRIGADIER GENERAL BUTLER, WHO IS A CONSTITUENT OF MINE.
9:17:55AM HE IS FROM CORY LAKES ISLES AND A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
9:17:59AM A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION FOR THE 2019 MEDAL OF
9:18:02AM HONOR CONVENTION.
9:18:03AM ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
9:18:06AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY KNOWS THAT WE'RE A VERY, VERY DIVERSE
9:18:08AM AND PLURALISTIC AREA.
9:18:10AM PART OF OUR DIVERSITY AND PART OF OUR PLURALISM IS THAT WE
9:18:13AM HAVE MANY, MANY VETERANS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
9:18:16AM WE HAVE ALMOST 100,000 VETERANS HERE IN THE HILLSBOROUGH
9:18:19AM COUNTY AREA.
9:18:20AM THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR LOVED ONES,
9:18:23AM ET CETERA.
9:18:23AM THAT LEGACY OF MILITARY SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY,
9:18:26AM REALLY A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:18:27AM HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE'RE DIVIDED IN A LOT OF
9:18:29AM DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS POLITICS, ET CETERA.
9:18:31AM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, REALLY BRINGS US TOGETHER
9:18:34AM NOT JUST AS TAMPANIANS OR TAMPEÑOS, BUT AS AMERICANS IS THE
9:18:38AM VALOR AND SERVICE OF OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN.
9:18:42AM THAT IS WHAT THE MEDAL OF HONOR CONVENTION IS ALL ABOUT.
9:18:45AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR
9:18:47AM INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT MEDAL OF HONOR.
9:18:50AM THAT INCLUDES MR. RONALD RAY, WHO IS A GRADUATE OF THE
9:18:54AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, WHO I BELIEVE IS STILL WITH US.
9:18:57AM THAT INCLUDES FROM THE TAMPA BAY AREA, MR. PAUL RAY SMITH,
9:19:00AM WHO RESTS RIGHT NOW AT ARLINGTON CEMETERY.
9:19:03AM AND THAT INCLUDES, OF COURSE, MR. LOPEZ.
9:19:08AM I ALWAYS HAVE A PICTURE UP ON MY WALL OF LIEUTENANT LOPEZ
9:19:12AM BEFORE HE DIED 1950, SEPTEMBER 15, IN KOREA.
9:19:16AM IT IS OUR GREAT HONOR TO GIVE TO THE 2019 MEDAL OF HONOR
9:19:20AM CONVENTION THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION FOR ALL THAT
9:19:24AM YOU DO.
9:19:24AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ALL COMING HERE.
9:19:27AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THE FESTIVITIES AND
9:19:29AM CELEBRATING THE VALOR OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN.
9:19:36AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
9:19:38AM WE'RE EXCITED.
9:19:40AM THERE ARE 71 LIVING RECIPIENTS OF THIS NATION'S HIGHEST
9:19:43AM AWARD OF VALOR.
9:19:45AM WE'RE GOING TO BE BLESSED COME OCTOBER 22nd.
9:19:48AM 48 OF THEM WILL BE HERE FOR A WEEK.
9:19:50AM IT WILL BE THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF MEDAL OF HONOR
9:19:53AM RECIPIENTS SINCE 1970.
9:19:54AM WE'VE GOT WEEKLONG ACTIVITIES PLANNED.
9:19:57AM MR. VINIK STEPPED UP AND IS THE PRESENTING SPONSOR FOR OUR
9:20:03AM CONVENTION.
9:20:03AM WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
9:20:05AM WE HAVE AN OPENING PRESIDENT'S BREAKFAST ON THE 23rd.
9:20:08AM YOU ALL HAVE SEATS THERE.
9:20:10AM WE EXPECT YOU TO BE THERE TO MEET THE WORLD'S -- THESE ARE
9:20:13AM JUST AMAZING INDIVIDUALS.
9:20:14AM THERE ARE THREE LEFT FROM WORLD WAR II, WOODY WILLIAMS WILL
9:20:17AM BE HERE.
9:20:17AM HE'S 96.
9:20:18AM THERE ARE FIVE FROM KOREA.
9:20:20AM HERSHEY MIYAMURA WILL BE HERE.
9:20:25AM WE HAVE 48 STILL WITH US FROM VIETNAM.
9:20:26AM 38 OF THEM WILL BE THERE.
9:20:28AM WE HAVE 14 FROM THE GLOBAL WAR IN AFGHANISTAN.
9:20:31AM 10 OF THEM WILL BE HERE.
9:20:33AM OUR MOST RECENT RECIPIENT FROM IRAQ WILL BE HERE, TOO.
9:20:37AM IT'S A WEEKLONG OF ACTIVITIES.
9:20:42AM IT'S AMAZING.
9:20:42AM WE HAVE THINGS AT THE COLUMBIA.
9:20:44AM RICHARD GONZMART STEPPED UP AND IS HOSTING A DINNER AT WHAT
9:20:47AM BETTER PLACE THAN TAMPA'S FINEST RESTAURANT.
9:20:50AM WE HAVE A GAME WEDNESDAY NIGHT THAT THE LIGHTNING ARE
9:20:52AM HOSTING WHERE THEY'LL HAVE 48 RECIPIENTS ON THE ICE TO DROP
9:20:56AM THE PUCK.
9:20:57AM WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS GOING TO DROP
9:20:59AM THE PUCK ON THAT ONE.
9:21:01AM SO IT'S AN EXCITING TIME.
9:21:04AM AS WE MENTIONED, WE HAVE OUR RESIDENT HOST RECIPIENT IS GARY
9:21:07AM LATRELL.
9:21:09AM GARY LATRELL LIVES ON ST. PETE BEACH.
9:21:11AM HE IS A RECIPIENT FROM THE VIETNAM ERA.
9:21:14AM HE WAS KIND ENOUGH -- THIS BOOK IS CALLED "ORDINARY HEROES."
9:21:20AM THEY WENT OUT AND INTERVIEWED ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO THE LIVING
9:21:22AM RECIPIENTS AND TALKED TO THEM.
9:21:23AM ASKED THEM THEIR OPINIONS, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE.
9:21:25AM HE WAS NICE ENOUGH TO SIGN BOOKS FOR EACH ONE OF YOU.
9:21:30AM IF YOU COULD GIVE THOSE TO THEM.
9:21:34AM THOSE ARE FOR YOU.
9:21:38AM HE AUTOGRAPHED IT.
9:21:41AM THESE ARE COLLECTOR ITEMS.
9:21:43AM BECAUSE IF YOU NOTICE ON THE PAGE HERE, GARY HAS A FULL HEAD
9:21:47AM OF HAIR.
9:21:48AM HE'S BEEN BALD FOR 30 YEARS.
9:21:51AM WHEN YOU SEE HIM AT THE CONVENTION, YOU'LL RECOGNIZE.
9:21:54AM THOSE ARE FOR YOU, TOO.
9:21:55AM IN ADDITION, WE HAVE MEDALLIONS THAT HAVE BEEN STRUCK FOR
9:21:58AM THE CONVENTION.
9:21:59AM MAJOR GENERAL MARTIN HAS THOSE FOR YOU.
9:22:02AM WE'RE EXCITED.
9:22:05AM THIS CITY SPONSOR AND SUPPORTS THE MILITARY BETTER THAN
9:22:09AM ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY, HANDS DOWN.
9:22:13AM HANDS DOWN.
9:22:13AM YOU SUPPORT THINGS LIKE THE BASE, THE HONOR FLIGHT.
9:22:17AM THIS CITY GETS IT.
9:22:19AM THEY ARE EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT THE MILITARY HAS
9:22:22AM DONE.
9:22:22AM WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS FOR THE WELCOME.
9:22:29AM WE HAVE GIVEN THE SCHEDULE OF EVENTS FOR THE WHOLE WEEK.
9:22:31AM WE EXPECT TO SEE YOU THERE.
9:22:32AM EXPECT YOU TO INTERACT WITH THEM.
9:22:34AM THESE ARE PRETTY INTERESTING FOLKS.
9:22:36AM YOU'LL MEET SOME PRETTY SALTY INDIVIDUALS, THESE RECIPIENTS.
9:22:40AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PROCLAMATION.
9:22:41AM WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT.
9:22:43AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
9:22:44AM IT'S ABOUT 30 DAYS NOW.
9:22:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
9:22:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. GUDES AND I KNOW ABOUT GETTING BALD.
9:22:52AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:22:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
9:22:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE AUTOGRAPHED
9:22:59AM BOOKS.
9:23:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY.
9:23:03AM ON THE BATTLEFIELD, THERE IS NO POLITICS.
9:23:05AM THERE IS NO RELIGION.
9:23:07AM THERE IS NOTHING MORE THAN CAMARADERIE BETWEEN THE MEN AND
9:23:10AM WOMEN WHO FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
9:23:13AM I WOULD BE HONORED TO STAND TOE TO TOE NEXT TO THESE FINE
9:23:16AM MEN WHO HAVE EARNED THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR.
9:23:20AM THE MEDAL OF HONOR, AND THANK THEM FOR LEAVING NO ONE
9:23:24AM BEHIND.
9:23:25AM WORKING TO FIGHT FOR SAVING OTHERS LIVES AND WORKING TO
9:23:29AM FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
9:23:30AM I THANK YOU GENTLEMEN VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
9:23:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, I'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS
9:23:36AM FOR A LONG TIME.
9:23:37AM I'M ALWAYS ON MY COMPUTER AND ALWAYS READING AND LEARNING
9:23:41AM AND WATCHING DOCUMENTARIES AND WHATNOT.
9:23:42AM I KNOW ON YouTube, YOU FIND MANY INTERVIEWS WITH MEDAL OF
9:23:46AM HONOR RECIPIENTS.
9:23:49AM YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRUE AMERICAN HEROES.
9:23:51AM I MEAN, ALL VETERANS ARE AMERICAN HEROES, BUT THE STORIES
9:23:54AM THAT THEY SHARE, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
9:23:56AM AND TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THEM.
9:23:59AM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO.
9:24:01AM I WANT TO GET PICTURES WITH THE WORLD WAR II GUYS, WITH THE
9:24:04AM VIETNAM GUYS, WITH THE KOREAN WAR, TO HAVE THEM HERE IN OUR
9:24:08AM CITY.
9:24:09AM YOU SAID IT, THE LARGEST GROUP SINCE 1970.
9:24:11AM >> 1970, THEY HAD 300 AT A CONVENTION.
9:24:14AM BUT BACK THEN YOU HAD ALMOST 450 LIVING RECIPIENTS.
9:24:17AM YOU STILL HAVE SOME FROM WORLD WAR I BACK THEN.
9:24:20AM THIS IS UNIQUE.
9:24:23AM WOODY WILLIAMS WILL WEAR YOUR KNOW WHAT OUT.
9:24:27AM HE'S 96 YEARS OLD AND OUTLIVE US ALL.
9:24:29AM HE LIKES TO REFER TO IT, "I WAS THAT SCRAWNY ASS KID FROM
9:24:34AM WEST VIRGINIA WHO PICKED UP A FLAMETHROWER."
9:24:37AM OPERATION DETACHMENT, BATTLE OF IWO JIMA, PERIOD OF SEVEN
9:24:43AM HOURS, HE WENT THROUGH EIGHT FLAMETHROWERS AND TOOK OUT NINE
9:24:45AM PILLBOXES.
9:24:46AM HE'S 5'8", MAYBE 130 POUNDS SOAKING WET, AND WILL OUTLIVE US
9:24:51AM ALL, SO, YEAH, YOU'LL GET TO MEET WOODY.
9:24:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING HIM AND
9:24:55AM OTHERS.
9:24:55AM IT'S LIKE CELEBRITIES.
9:24:58AM THESE ARE LIVING LEGENDS.
9:25:00AM >> WE DID A CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OVER THE LAST YEAR
9:25:03AM LEADING UP TO THE CONVENTION WHERE WE HAVE GONE INTO THE
9:25:06AM SCHOOLS IN THE THREE COUNTIES.
9:25:07AM THEY TALKED.
9:25:08AM WE BROUGHT RECIPIENTS IN.
9:25:09AM WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WHERE WE
9:25:11AM SIT AND TEACH THE KIDS HOW TO DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE
9:25:14AM RIGHT TIME FOR THE RIGHT REASON.
9:25:16AM THEY GET TO TALK TO RECIPIENTS ABOUT ARGUABLY WHAT IS THE
9:25:19AM WORST DAY IN THEIR LIFE.
9:25:21AM AND HOW DID YOU EXECUTE, WHAT DID YOU DO.
9:25:27AM LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'LL COME BACK AND SAY I DIDN'T DO
9:25:30AM ANYTHING MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE WOULD DO.
9:25:33AM I DID WHAT I WAS TRAINED.
9:25:35AM YOU READ THEIR CITATIONS AND GO, YEAH, REALLY.
9:25:37AM IT WILL BE EXCITING.
9:25:38AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU ALL MEET THEM.
9:25:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:25:42AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN 30 DAYS.
9:27:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:27:37AM NEXT UP, WE HAVE CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH OUR VERY OWN TITUS
9:27:41AM O'NEIL.
9:27:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:43AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE HERE TODAY TO GIVE A TAMPA CITY
9:27:46AM COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO A MAN WHO REALLY NEEDS NO
9:27:51AM INTRODUCTION, WHO IS A GREAT MAN, A MAN OF GREAT STRENGTH.
9:27:55AM A MAN OF GREAT COMPASSION, A MAN OF GREAT DECENCY.
9:27:59AM MR. THADDEUS BULLARD, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS TITUS O'NEIL.
9:28:04AM WE'RE HERE TO HONOR THIS WONDERFUL PERSON FOR HIS BOOK,
9:28:08AM "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A BAD KID."
9:28:11AM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE CAN HONOR THIS GUY FOR.
9:28:13AM I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING YOU DURING THE WARRIOR GAMES
9:28:16AM WHERE YOU PICKED ME UP A LOT.
9:28:18AM THIS GUY PICKED ME UP AND I'M 230 POUNDS.
9:28:21AM I GOT FOUR YEARS TO SUE.
9:28:24AM NO, I'M JOKING.
9:28:25AM THIS IS A GENTLEMAN WHO IS REALLY, REALLY INVOLVED IN THE
9:28:29AM COMMUNITY, BUT THIS BOOK, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A BAD
9:28:33AM KID, REALLY BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER.
9:28:34AM IT TALKS ABOUT HIS REMARKABLE LIFE AND THE MANY, MANY
9:28:38AM STRUGGLES THAT HE'S HAD, BUT HOW IN SPITE OF THE MANY, MANY
9:28:41AM DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AND BURDENS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD IN
9:28:44AM HIS LIFE, HE'S BEEN ABLE TO NOT ONLY MAKE SOMETHING GREAT OF
9:28:48AM HIMSELF BUT HELP PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY.
9:28:50AM THERE IS A GREAT SAYING WHICH IS WHEN YOU CLIMB THAT LADDER
9:28:55AM OF OPPORTUNITY AND REACH THE TOP, DON'T FORGET THE PEOPLE
9:28:57AM COMING UP BEHIND YOU.
9:28:58AM DON'T FORGET THE PEOPLE HAVING SAME OR SIMILAR STRUGGLES.
9:29:01AM THIS GUY DOES NOT FORGET ABOUT THE FOLKS, HE CHAMPIONS THEM
9:29:08AM WHERE THEY ARE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:29:09AM WHETHER IT'S THAT STUDENT HAVING A LEARNING DISABILITY IN
9:29:12AM SCHOOL AND HAVING PROBLEMS PASSING THE 10th GRADE, THAT
9:29:15AM SINGLE MOM RAISING THE KID, THAT MINIMUM-WAGE WORKER WORKING
9:29:18AM AT WENDY'S JUST WANTING TO GET AHEAD.
9:29:21AM THE PERSON IN THE WORKING CLASS STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT TO THE
9:29:24AM MIDDLE CLASS, MR. BULLARD HAS THEIR BACK TIME AND TIME
9:29:27AM AGAIN.
9:29:28AM IF I WERE TO GO THROUGH HIS LIST OF ACHIEVEMENTS AND
9:29:30AM CHARITIES, WE WOULD BE HERE ANOTHER TWO HOURS.
9:29:33AM IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT IT IS A GREAT PLEASURE AND HONOR
9:29:37AM TO GIVE A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:29:40AM THIS ISN'T JUST FOR YOUR BOOK, THIS IS FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE,
9:29:43AM ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:29:44AM YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION.
9:29:45AM YOU ARE ONE OF THE GREATEST TAMPANIANS AND TAMPEÑOS OUT
9:29:48AM THERE AND REAL HONOR TO KNOW YOU, MY FRIEND.
9:29:50AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:29:51AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:29:53AM >> I DON'T REALLY KNOW LIKE THE MAGNITUDE OF ME BEING HERE
9:29:57AM TODAY, BUT I CAN HONESTLY SAY I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE OF
9:30:00AM EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN HERE, ESPECIALLY LOCALLY, THAT IS
9:30:05AM TIRELESSLY WORKING TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THOSE THAT DON'T
9:30:09AM ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE TO HAVE A VOICE FOR THEM.
9:30:12AM I'M NOT INTO POLITICS, SO YOU GUYS DON'T EVER HAVE TO WORRY
9:30:16AM ABOUT ME RUNNING AGAINST YOU FOR ANYTHING.
9:30:18AM BUT I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH ANY AND EVERYBODY THAT IS
9:30:23AM WANTING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND IS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
9:30:26AM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT MAKING CHANGE, AND
9:30:28AM THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSACTIONAL APPROACH TO MAKING THAT
9:30:33AM CHANGE, BUT I'M INTO TRANSFORMATIONAL APPROACH.
9:30:36AM MY LIFE WAS CHANGED BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT INVESTED
9:30:39AM IN ME WHEN THEY HAD NOTHING TO GAIN IN RETURN.
9:30:42AM I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO REPAY THOSE PEOPLE FINANCIALLY.
9:30:45AM I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO REPAY THEM.
9:30:51AM SOME OF THEM ARE -- I CAN EXUDE THE SAME LOVE AND COMPASSION
9:30:55AM THAT THOSE PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, ALL RELIGIONS, ALL
9:30:59AM RACES, ALL BACKGROUNDS, SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS, TO MAKE LIFE
9:31:03AM BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T ALWAYS GET THAT OPPORTUNITY
9:31:07AM TO BE A CHAMPION.
9:31:11AM ONE THING I'VE LEARNED OVER TIME, AND THIS IS NOT A PLUG FOR
9:31:16AM MY BOOK BUT I DID TALK ABOUT IT IN THE BOOK, EVEN PEOPLE
9:31:19AM THAT COME FROM AFFLUENT BACKGROUNDS HAVE STRUGGLES AS WELL.
9:31:22AM I THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO START FOCUSING ON BEING GREAT
9:31:27AM HUMAN BEINGS INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE
9:31:29AM A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN OR GAY,
9:31:33AM STRAIGHT.
9:31:33AM NEED TO FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL HUMAN BEINGS AND WE
9:31:36AM SHOULD ALL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DIGNITY DISPLAYED TO US
9:31:43AM NO MATTER WHERE WE COME FROM AND NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE IN
9:31:46AM LIFE.
9:31:47AM I TRULY BELIEVE IN MY HEART THAT WE'RE ALL ONE SITUATION
9:31:51AM AWAY FROM BEING IN A WORSE SITUATION.
9:31:53AM THAT WORSE SITUATION ISN'T ALWAYS FROM A FINANCIAL
9:31:56AM STANDPOINT.
9:31:56AM ANYBODY CAN BE STRICKEN.
9:31:59AM CANCER IS VERY UNAPOLOGETIC IN WHAT IT ATTACKS.
9:32:05AM IT WILL ATTACK SOMEONE WHO IS A BILLIONAIRE OR SOMEBODY
9:32:09AM STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR BILLS AND TO SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO
9:32:13AM FIGHT, FIGHT.
9:32:13AM I JUST FEEL LIKE THE FIGHTS WE NEED TO START FIGHTING ARE
9:32:17AM THOSE THAT PUT OUR EDUCATORS IN A BETTER POSITION TO LIVE
9:32:20AM AND MAINTAIN A GREAT LIFE, PUT OUR PARENTS AND OUR FAMILIES
9:32:24AM IN A GREATER SITUATION TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THIS LIFE THAT WE
9:32:27AM SAY IS THE AMERICAN DREAM.
9:32:29AM IN SOME CASES A LOT OF PEOPLE WAKING UP TO THE AMERICAN
9:32:32AM NIGHTMARE.
9:32:34AM BEING A PERSON THAT HAS BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STICK, I
9:32:38AM TRULY APPRECIATE THIS COMMENDATION, BUT I JUST ALSO USE THIS
9:32:41AM TIME THAT YOU GUYS GIVE ME TO, ONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
9:32:44AM SERVICE UP TO THIS POINT BUT ALSO, TWO, TO PUSH EACH AND
9:32:48AM EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN HERE TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE THAT I HEARD
9:32:51AM AT 12 YEARS OLD.
9:32:53AM THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BAD KID.
9:32:57AM I WAS TOLD THAT I LOVE YOU AND I BELIEVE IN YOU BY A
9:33:00AM STRANGER FROM CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, A WHITE GUY NAMED PATRICK
9:33:03AM MINNOW WHO HAD NO REASON IN THE WORLD TO TELL ME THAT.
9:33:06AM A LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD ME THEY LOVED ME AND THEN TURN AROUND
9:33:09AM AND ABUSE ME AND BEAT ME, WHATEVER, BUT NOBODY EVER TOLD ME
9:33:12AM THEY BELIEVED IN ME.
9:33:14AM IT WAS THAT MOMENT AT 12 YEARS OLD THAT REALLY HELPED SHAPE
9:33:19AM MY LIFE AND CHANGED MY LIFE TO START, ONE, BELIEVING IN
9:33:22AM MYSELF BUT ALSO BELIEVING THAT I CAN HELP OTHER PEOPLE BE
9:33:24AM THEIR BEST.
9:33:25AM REGARDLESS OF WHAT AGE YOU ARE, WHAT DEMOGRAPHIC YOU COME
9:33:28AM FROM, WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER
9:33:32AM PLACE AND YOU NEED TO START AT HOME AND TAMPA IS MY HOME.
9:33:36AM IT'S A CITY THAT I LOVE, AND I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, AND
9:33:39AM I LOVE EVERY PLACE THAT IT'S GOING.
9:33:42AM I TRY TO REPRESENT WHAT I FEEL LIKE SHOULD, THAT EVERY
9:33:47AM PERSON THAT LOVES THIS CITY SHOULD REPRESENT REGARDLESS OF
9:33:50AM WHERE I AM IN THE WORLD.
9:33:51AM AND THANK YOU, FOR YOU THAT ARE TENNESSEE GRADUATES, ANY IN
9:33:57AM THE BUILDING WILLING TO ADMIT THAT, GO GATORS.
9:34:00AM WE'LL SEE YOU THIS WEEKEND.
9:34:04AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY THIS.
9:34:15AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAY WHEN YOU TALK.
9:34:19AM I SEE YOU BROUGHT AN OLD FRIEND OF MINE, MR. SAILOR.
9:34:24AM HE UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE HE KNOWS I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.
9:34:28AM I UNDERSTAND THOSE STRUGGLES.
9:34:29AM I KNOW HE WAS AT LETO HIGH SCHOOL.
9:34:35AM YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR IT.
9:34:38AM HE'S GOING TO RECEIVE THAT SUCCESS FROM YOU EVEN BETTER NOW.
9:34:43AM BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS YOU'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
9:34:48AM MONEY ISN'T EVERYTHING.
9:34:50AM MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING.
9:34:53AM IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE HAS THE KNOW-HOW AND THE WILL
9:34:59AM TO BE THERE.
9:34:59AM NOT JUST TO GIVE MONEY BUT TO BE THERE.
9:35:02AM TO BE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
9:35:03AM TO TOUCH A YOUNG PERSON, ADULT, TO GIVE THEM THAT INFECTION
9:35:07AM OF SUCCESS.
9:35:08AM WHEN A PERSON GETS THE INFECTION OF SUCCESS, THEY GOT TO
9:35:12AM GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
9:35:13AM YOU TALKED ABOUT CANCER, THEY GOT TO GIVE THAT INFECTION TO
9:35:17AM SOMEBODY ELSE.
9:35:17AM IT'S IMPORTANT.
9:35:18AM IT'S VITAL.
9:35:19AM EVERY DAY I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE GIVING THEM THAT INFECTION.
9:35:25AM IT'S TREMENDOUS TO THEM.
9:35:27AM YOU KEEP GIVING THAT INFECTION OF SUCCESS AND IT'S GOING TO
9:35:31AM BLEND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
9:35:33AM I SEE YOU ON Facebook ALL OVER THE PLACE GIVING THE SAME
9:35:36AM MESSAGE, AND THAT'S KEY, THE SAME MESSAGE.
9:35:40AM I'M SORRY I COULDN'T BE THERE ON THURSDAY FOR THE SLIGH
9:35:45AM EVENT.
9:35:46AM I KNOW THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING OVER THERE.
9:35:48AM I WENT TO SLIGH AS A YOUNG MAN.
9:35:52AM I UNDERSTAND THAT COMMUNITY.
9:35:55AM I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOOK IT UPON YOURSELF TO GO OVER THERE, TO
9:35:58AM GIVE THAT COMMUNITY, THAT INFECTION OF SUCCESS AND THOSE
9:36:02AM KIDS.
9:36:02AM I JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, MY FRIEND.
9:36:06AM THANK YOU.
9:36:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:09AM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:36:09AM NO.
9:36:11AM >> HE WANTED TO GET A PICTURE UP THERE.
9:38:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:38:03AM WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:38:05AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK -- OH, I'M SORRY.
9:38:09AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:38:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE DATE
9:38:13AM OF THE NEXT COMMENDATION.
9:38:14AM MS. ELLIE BAGGET, FROM TODAY UNTIL OCTOBER 17.
9:38:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES
9:38:21AM TO CONTINUE THIS COMMENDATION WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
9:38:24AM MIRANDA FOR OCTOBER 17, 2019.
9:38:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:38:28AM ALL RIGHT.
9:38:29AM WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR REAL.
9:38:32AM THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT
9:38:35AM IS NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
9:38:39AM PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
9:38:42AM >> NAME AND WHAT?
9:38:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ADDRESS.
9:38:45AM >> OH.
9:38:45AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:38:46AM MY NAME IS SANDRA RAMIREZ.
9:38:49AM I'M ACTUALLY A VISITOR FROM MINNESOTA.
9:38:52AM BUT FLORIDA IS THE FIRST PLACE MY FATHER IMMIGRATED TO FROM
9:39:00AM ECUADOR.
9:39:01AM I'M FAMILIAR.
9:39:03AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PREBORN CHILDREN OF TAMPA MURDERED AT
9:39:06AM A RATE OF OVER 200 EACH AND EVERY WEEK UNDER YOUR WATCH AND
9:39:10AM JURISDICTION.
9:39:11AM IT'S TIME TO END THE BLOODSHED AND PUNISH THOSE WHO ARE
9:39:15AM MURDERING BABIES IN UTERO.
9:39:18AM YOU HAVE A GOD-ORDAINED DUTY TO PUNISH EVILDOERS.
9:39:24AM ROE V. WADE IS NOT A LAW.
9:39:26AM IT IS AN IMMORAL CORRUPT COURT OPINION THAT IS TO BE
9:39:29AM COMPLETELY IGNORED.
9:39:30AM WE ALL REMEMBER DRED SCOTT WHEN THE SUPREME COURT DECIDED
9:39:36AM AFRICAN AMERICANS DID NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS WHITE
9:39:38AM PEOPLE WHILE SLAVERY WENT ON FOR OVER 200 YEARS.
9:39:41AM THE SUPREME COURT WAS DEAD WRONG ABOUT DRED SCOTT V.
9:39:46AM SANFORD, AND THEY WERE WRONG ABOUT ROE V. WADE.
9:39:49AM ARTICLE 6 OF OUR CONSTITUTION DOES NOT DECLARE THAT THE
9:39:53AM SUPREME COURT HAS THE SUPREMACY.
9:39:54AM IN FACT, NOW THAT THE FEDERAL JUDICIARY NOR THE SUPREME
9:39:56AM COURT IS MENTIONED IN THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE.
9:39:59AM WHAT ACTUALLY HAS THE SUPREMACY IN THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF,
9:40:02AM WHICH EACH OF YOU TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD, YOU DID NOT TAKE
9:40:06AM AN OATH OF SUBSERVIENCE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
9:40:09AM YOU DID NOT TAKE AN OATH TO UPHOLD UNJUST OR IMMORAL COURT
9:40:12AM OPINIONS BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT.
9:40:15AM SO I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, YOUR OATH IS NOT TO THE
9:40:19AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
9:40:20AM IT'S TO UPHOLD THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
9:40:22AM AND IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION IT SAYS
9:40:25AM THE THAT WE AS A PEOPLE ARE HERE TO ESTABLISH JUSTICE, TO
9:40:29AM ENSURE DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY, TO SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF
9:40:34AM LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY, THE PREBORN CHILDREN
9:40:38AM IN TAMPA ARE OUR POSTERITY.
9:40:40AM THEY ARE TO BE GRANTED THE SAME PROTECTIONS OF LIFE,
9:40:42AM LIBERTY, THAT POST-BORN CHILDREN HAVE -- OR POST-BORN PEOPLE
9:40:47AM HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:40:48AM SO I'M HERE TO IMPLORE YOU TO BE A MAN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
9:40:52AM GOD'S WORD SAYS THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICENESS ARE THE
9:40:56AM FOUNDATION OF GOD'S THRONE.
9:40:57AM AND HE'S PUT YOU IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY TO GOVERN IN HIS
9:41:00AM RIGHTEOUSNESS AND WITH HIS JUSTICE THE BIBLE SAYS THAT TO
9:41:05AM HIM WHO KNOWS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND DOES NOT DO IT, TO
9:41:08AM HIM IT IS SIN.
9:41:10AM SO THEREFORE I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TO DO YOUR DUTY TO
9:41:14AM CRIMINALIZE ABORTION IN TAMPA BECAUSE YOU'LL BE REMEMBERED
9:41:17AM FOR NOT ONLY WHAT YOU DID BUT WHAT YOU DID NOT DO BECAUSE
9:41:20AM YOU FEARED MAN AND NOT GOD.
9:41:22AM REPENT.
9:41:23AM FOLLOW CHRIST, AND HE'LL HELP YOU OVERCOME YOUR FEAR OF
9:41:27AM CRIMINALIZING MURDER IN THE WOMB.
9:41:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:34AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS STANDING IS HERE
9:41:37AM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:41:38AM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?
9:41:41AM THIS IS YOUR TIME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ANY
9:41:43AM ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER,
9:41:46AM PLEASE STAND UP AND MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN SO THAT WE CAN KNOW
9:41:51AM FOR PURPOSES OF TIME.
9:41:53AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
9:41:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:41:55AM DIANA KLINE.
9:41:57AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR PREBORN NEIGHBORS IN TAMPA THAT
9:41:59AM ARE BEING MURDERED EVERY WEEK.
9:42:01AM WHAT SANDRA SAID, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT.
9:42:07AM SHE'S REFERRING TO BASICALLY NULLIFYING CORRUPT IMMORAL
9:42:16AM OPINION THAT WE KNOW OF AS ROE V. WADE.
9:42:17AM I HAVE TWO EXAMPLES.
9:42:19AM ONE IS AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA IN 1960
9:42:25AM WHEN INEZ ANDERSON, WHO STILL LIVES HERE IN TAMPA, BACK
9:42:32AM DURING THE SEGREGATION LAWS, SHE DID A SIT-IN WITH SOME
9:42:35AM OTHER STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND TO DEFY THE JIM CROW
9:42:44AM LAWS THAT WERE HERE IN THE SOUTH.
9:42:46AM THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF NULLIFYING THE STATE AND PROGRESSING
9:42:55AM TO THROW OUT THE INJUSTICE, IMMORAL JIM CROW LAWS.
9:42:59AM THE OTHER EXAMPLE OF NULLIFICATION, IGNORING ANY CORRUPT AND
9:43:07AM IMMORAL LAW OR OPINION OF THE COURT, BACK IN 1850, FUGITIVE
9:43:12AM SLAVE ACT IN PLACE THAT WAS ENACTED BY THE U.S. SUPREME
9:43:15AM COURT.
9:43:15AM THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WHERE JOSHUA GLOVER IN 1854 HAD
9:43:20AM ESCAPED FROM HIS SLAVE OWNER.
9:43:23AM HE FLED TO WISCONSIN.
9:43:25AM THE FEDERAL AGENTS WENT TO ARREST HIM, AND THERE WAS AN
9:43:32AM ABOLITIONIST, SHERMAN BOOTH, WHO GOT WORD THAT THIS SLAVE,
9:43:37AM JOSHUA WAS GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND TAKEN BACK TO A SLAVE
9:43:41AM OWNER.
9:43:41AM HE RALLIED ALL THE PEOPLE IN THAT DISTANCE FROM WISCONSIN TO
9:43:49AM MILWAUKEE WHERE HE WAS GOING TO THE JAIL AND ALL THE PEOPLE
9:43:52AM RALLIED TOGETHER TO BREAK HIM OUT OF JAIL.
9:43:54AM HE WAS ABLE THROUGH THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, HE WAS ABLE TO
9:43:57AM ESCAPE TO CANADA WHERE HE LED OUT THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN
9:44:02AM FREEDOM IN CANADA.
9:44:02AM WHAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF THAT, BOOTH WAS BROUGHT UP ON
9:44:08AM CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR VIOLATING THAT FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT.
9:44:13AM FORTUNATELY, BOOTH HAD AN ATTORNEY WHO DEFENDED HIM IN COURT
9:44:17AM ARGUING THAT THE FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND
9:44:20AM THEREFORE VOID.
9:44:20AM THE STATE SUPREME COURT IN WISCONSIN AGREED AND THEN
9:44:23AM ACQUITTED BOOTH, WHICH THEREFORE MADE THE FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT
9:44:28AM WAS NULLIFIED IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
9:44:31AM THEREFORE YOU MEN HERE CAN TAKE THE SAME POSTURE IN TAMPA TO
9:44:35AM DEFY THE IMMORAL CORRUPT LAW -- NOT A LAW BUT IT'S AN
9:44:39AM OPINION OF THE SUPREME COURT, TO ESTABLISH AND ENFORCE AN
9:44:42AM ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CRIMINALIZE MURDER IN THE WOMB.
9:44:44AM I IMPLORE YOU TO BE RIGHTEOUS MEN AND CRIMINALIZE ABORTION
9:44:47AM NOW.
9:44:48AM GOD'S LOVE, MERCY, JUSTICE, DEMAND THIS FROM YOU.
9:44:51AM THANK YOU.
9:44:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:44:53AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:44:54AM BEFORE OUR NEXT SPEAKER COMES UP, AT 10 A.M., WE'RE GOING TO
9:44:59AM BREAK FOR STAFF.
9:45:00AM SO ANYBODY WHO IS HERE STILL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'LL HAVE
9:45:04AM TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE STAFF REPORTS ARE DONE, WHICH COULD
9:45:07AM TAKE 10, 20, 30 MINUTES, WHAT HAVE YOU.
9:45:10AM USUALLY FROM NOW ON, WE'LL HAVE FOLKS FIRST FOR PUBLIC
9:45:14AM COMMENT WHO ARE HERE FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THEN
9:45:18AM FOLKS FOR GENERAL COMMENT AFTERWARDS.
9:45:20AM WE DIDN'T BEGIN THAT WAY TODAY.
9:45:22AM WE'LL START THAT NEXT WEEK.
9:45:24AM >> METESMOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:45:27AM FOR THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT ABORTION, MOST MEN WHO CONTROL
9:45:31AM LEGISLATURES OR ANYWHERE, THEY NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING
9:45:34AM ABOUT ABORTION BECAUSE MOST OF THEM HAVE WOMEN ON THE SIDE,
9:45:38AM GET THEM PREGNANT AND NEED THE ABORTIONS.
9:45:41AM MOST OF THEM DIRTY.
9:45:42AM NASTY POLITICS AND NASTY PERSONALITIES.
9:45:45AM THAT'S ANOTHER SUBJECT.
9:45:48AM BUT FOR THE RECORD, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KNOW THAT THIS CITY
9:45:54AM COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCILS BEFORE IT, GOING BACK TO WHEN
9:45:57AM CITY OF TAMPA WAS FORMED, 1855, NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY,
9:46:04AM POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
9:46:09AM NOTHING.
9:46:10AM TREAT US LIKE DIRT.
9:46:12AM TREAT US LIKE SCUMS.
9:46:14AM TREAT US LIKE BASTARDS.
9:46:16AM TREAT US LIKE DUMMIES.
9:46:18AM TREAT US LIKE IGNORAMUS.
9:46:22AM A BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET, A $1 BILLION BUDGET, AND WHAT IS IT
9:46:30AM FOR 26% OF THE POPULATION?
9:46:33AM WE'RE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
9:46:35AM WHAT IS IT IN THEIR BUDGET FOR 26% OF THE BLACK POPULATION?
9:46:39AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
9:46:43AM CORNBREAD.
9:46:45AM COLLARD GREENS.
9:46:48AM CHITLINS, WHILE THE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE VINIK AND ALL DOWNTOWN
9:46:53AM AND BAYSHORE AND EVERYONE ELSE.
9:46:55AM WHAT'S IN IT FOR US AND THIS CITY COUNCIL WHO PROTECT
9:47:02AM THEMSELVES TO BE LIBERAL AND NICE AND DEMOCRATIC AND PEACE
9:47:05AM LOVING AND ALL THE OTHER KINDS OF STUFF.
9:47:08AM THEY LOOK OVER THAT.
9:47:11AM NOBODY HAVE EVER SAID IN THE HISTORY OF TAMPA, FROM 1855 TO
9:47:15AM THE PRESENT DAY, NOTHING FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE BUT A BUNCH OF
9:47:22AM GAMES AND GIMMICKS AND GARBAGE.
9:47:26AM GARBAGE.
9:47:27AM GET A HOME FOR A DOLLAR.
9:47:29AM SECTION A SECTION 8.
9:47:30AM DO ALL THIS OTHER WELFARE STUFF.
9:47:33AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND.
9:47:37AM 600 YEARS OF INJUSTICE, AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU-ALL IS PART OF
9:47:41AM IT.
9:47:42AM YOU CAN SIT AND RUN OUT AND GET THE VOTE AND TELL THE PEOPLE
9:47:47AM ALL KIND OF CRAZINESS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A VOTE AND
9:47:50AM WHEN YOU GET IN THE OFFICE YOU DO ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY
9:47:53AM NOTHING FOR THE POOR AND WORKING CLASS.
9:47:55AM IT'S NOT JUST AFRICAN PEOPLE YOU DO NOTHING FOR.
9:47:59AM IT'S ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOBODY UNLESS A DEVELOPER COMES
9:48:02AM WITH THEIR HANDS OUT, AND THEY RUN THE CITY FROM THE TOP
9:48:06AM DOWN.
9:48:07AM WE'VE BEEN FLOODING THE BAYSHORE FOREVER, ON GANDY, ON
9:48:12AM HENDERSON, FOREVER, DALE MABRY AND OTHER PLACES, SOUTH TAMPA
9:48:16AM FOREVER.
9:48:17AM NOTHING.
9:48:18AM IT'S NOT A RACIAL ISSUE.
9:48:21AM THERE'S SOLID PEOPLE IN HERE THAT DO A LOT FOR PEOPLE.
9:48:26AM VERY GOOD IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:48:31AM DOING THINGS --
9:48:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, PLEASE.
9:48:34AM >> MAN, DON'T TRY TO TALK OVER ME, MAN.
9:48:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:48:39AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:48:46AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
9:48:49AM LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
9:48:53AM WE COME DOWN HERE DAY AFTER DAY, WEEK AFTER WEEK, YEAR AFTER
9:48:59AM YEAR, TRYING TO GET SOME RESULTS BUT YOU ALL GIVE US NO
9:49:05AM RESULTS WHATSOEVER.
9:49:06AM I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING TO YOU ALL TO LET YOU ALL KNOW
9:49:09AM THAT YOU ALL DON'T CARE NOTHING ABOUT CERTAIN PEOPLE.
9:49:13AM AND CALLED THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.
9:49:15AM WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT THAT ALL MEN ARE
9:49:20AM CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH
9:49:25AM CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE,
9:49:29AM LIBERTY, THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS,
9:49:33AM GOVERNMENT ARE INSTITUTED AMONG MEN TO ARRIVING FROM THE
9:49:40AM JUST POWER.
9:49:41AM WHENEVER ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT BECOME DESTRUCTIVE OF THESE
9:49:48AM ENDS, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO ABOLISH
9:49:53AM IT AND TO INSTITUTE NEW GOVERNMENT.
9:49:55AM I MUST TELL YOU ALL, WE NEED NEW GOVERNMENT FROM WASHINGTON,
9:49:59AM D.C. ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GARBAGE TRUCK BECAUSE YOU'RE
9:50:05AM NOT DOING JUSTICE FOR PEOPLE OF CERTAIN COLOR, AND THAT'S
9:50:08AM WHAT WE ALL ABOUT.
9:50:10AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:50:10AM WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE DIDN'T CREATE OURSELVES.
9:50:17AM GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED ALL OF US.
9:50:19AM WHETHER YOU'RE UGLY.
9:50:20AM WHETHER YOU'RE BLACK, WHETHER YOU'RE WHITE OR NOT, IT MAKES
9:50:23AM NO DIFFERENCE.
9:50:24AM I WAS RIDING DOWN 22nd STREET.
9:50:28AM YOU ALL TAKE PRIME PROPERTY THAT BELONGS TO BLACK FOLKS AND
9:50:34AM CALL THEM RETENTION POND.
9:50:37AM I WAS RIDING DOWN 22nd STREET, SOME PRIME PROPERTY DOWN
9:50:40AM THERE WHERE WE COULD BUILD, I'M WONDERING WHY DIDN'T YOU ALL
9:50:48AM CONSIDER THE EAST TAMPA RETENTION POND?
9:50:51AM YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT WEST TAMPA.
9:50:55AM DON'T WORRY ABOUT YBOR CITY.
9:50:56AM I GUARANTEE YOU, WHEN YOU COME DOWN TO THE BLACK
9:51:00AM NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CONVERT OUR PROPERTY INTO RETENTION POND
9:51:03AM AND THAT AIN'T RIGHT.
9:51:04AM WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO JUSTICE FOR ALL PEOPLE.
9:51:06AM RESPECT ALL PEOPLE.
9:51:07AM DON'T JUST LOOK AT CERTAIN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY GOT A FEW
9:51:10AM DOLLARS IN THE BANK.
9:51:13AM WE'RE GOING TO RESPECT YOU MORE THAN WE RESPECT ANYBODY
9:51:15AM ELSE.
9:51:15AM THAT AIN'T THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
9:51:17AM WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOVE EVERYBODY, REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF
9:51:21AM THEIR SKIN AND WHERE THEY COME FROM.
9:51:24AM NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ALL A QUESTION.
9:51:26AM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE BAHAMAS PEOPLE THAT LOST
9:51:31AM EVERYTHING?
9:51:31AM CAN WE LET THEM COME INTO TAMPA?
9:51:34AM I KNOW WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAY.
9:51:36AM THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VISA CARD.
9:51:38AM HOW MANY OF THEM GOT A VISA CARD?
9:51:41AM YOU'RE GOING TO TREAT THEM WORSER THAN YOU ARE TREATING THE
9:51:48AM BLACKS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:51:52AM ONE THING WE GOT TO DO IS KEEP OUR TRUST IN THE ALMIGHTY GOD
9:51:52AM AND KEEP PRAYING.
9:51:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:51:54AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:52:08AM >> NAME IS JOHN MOL.
9:52:12AM 4104 NORTH LYNN AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:52:15AM I'M SPEAKING HERE ABOUT STORMWATER MITIGATION THAT I'VE BEEN
9:52:21AM TRYING TO GET AND STILL TRYING TO GET IT AND WILL STILL TRY
9:52:25AM TO GET IT UNTIL GET IT.
9:52:28AM WHAT I'M READING HERE IS A MEMORANDUM THROUGH THE CHAIR FROM
9:52:33AM JANICE McLEAN.
9:52:35AM THIS IS A TIME WHEN THE STAFF WAS REQUIRED TO APPEAR BUT NOT
9:52:39AM DISCUSS.
9:52:39AM SO NOTHING ON THIS I DON'T THINK WAS DISCUSSED BUT MAYBE
9:52:43AM SOME OF YOU HAVE READ IT.
9:52:45AM IT'S FIVE PARAGRAPHS.
9:52:48AM IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS THAT AS THE STORMWATER
9:52:51AM ASSESSMENTS ARE USER CHARGES, NO EXCEPTIONS OR EXEMPTIONS.
9:52:57AM IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT?
9:52:58AM I THINK YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET TRUE INFORMATION FROM YOUR
9:53:01AM STAFF.
9:53:01AM FIVE HOUSES DOWN FROM ME, THERE IS LLC, LIMITED LIABILITY
9:53:07AM CORPORATION, DOESN'T PAY ONE CENT ON SEVEN-TENTHS OF AN
9:53:12AM ACRE.
9:53:12AM I THINK THAT'S AN EXEMPTION THAT ALL OF NEW TAMPA IS THAT AN
9:53:17AM EXEMPTION?
9:53:18AM THEY DON'T PAY ANYTHING.
9:53:19AM BILLIONAIRES ON HARBOUR ISLAND DON'T PAY ANYTHING.
9:53:22AM THAT SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER EXEMPTION.
9:53:24AM THEY HAVE WHAT YOU CALL A MITIGATION CREDIT THAT SAYS
9:53:27AM PARCELS WITH NO OFF-SITE DISCHARGE OF STORMWATER TO THE CITY
9:53:30AM SYSTEM WILL GET 100% MITIGATION CREDIT.
9:53:35AM DO YOU MEAN THAT?
9:53:36AM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY -- I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IT.
9:53:39AM I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THE
9:53:43AM REQUIREMENTS ARE TO GET THAT.
9:53:46AM TRYING TO STOP THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, AND I'VE DONE IT.
9:53:50AM DIRECT OBSERVATION OF ANY OF YOU COULD VERIFY THAT.
9:53:54AM THE NEXT PARAGRAPH IS THAT I HAVE WRITTEN A LETTER
9:54:01AM EXPLICITLY STATING WHAT THE MOLS HAVE TO DO TO DEMONSTRATE
9:54:06AM THAT THE CITY DOES NOT DISCHARGE TO THE CITY SYSTEM.
9:54:09AM IS ANYBODY INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT HAPPENS TO BE?
9:54:12AM WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE IS
9:54:18AM FOR ME TO ENGAGE A P. E. TO COME OUT AND VERIFY THAT WATER
9:54:22AM DOESN'T RUN UPHILL.
9:54:24AM WHAT DOES THE P. E. WANT FOR THAT?
9:54:25AM $6,000.
9:54:26AM WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.
9:54:30AM ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT MY PROPERTY AND POUR SOME WATER IN IT
9:54:34AM AND IT DOESN'T RUN OFF THE PROPERTY.
9:54:36AM MY PROPERTY IS LIKE A BOWL OR A POND.
9:54:39AM IT FLOWS INTO THIS POND.
9:54:41AM SO, AGAIN, I HOPE -- ALL I WANT IS MITIGATION CREDIT.
9:54:47AM I HOPE THAT MAYBE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THEY SAID YOU
9:54:51AM COULD AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO PERHAPS HELP HOMESTEADERS GET
9:54:58AM THE MITIGATION CREDIT THEY DESERVE.
9:55:02AM PERHAPS SOME OF YOU, WOULD ANYONE THERE OFFER A MOTION TO DO
9:55:05AM THAT?
9:55:10AM [ BELL SOUNDS ]
9:55:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: MARTY, THIS IS IN LITIGATION, CORRECT?
9:55:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
9:55:16AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS -- I KNOW THAT MR. MOL IS REPRESENTED BY
9:55:19AM COUNSEL.
9:55:19AM MR. TERRITO, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO ADD?
9:55:22AM THAT BEING THE CASE, THE RULE DOES STATE THAT COUNCIL SHOULD
9:55:26AM AVOID ANY DISCUSSION OF MATTERS AT A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE
9:55:28AM THE CITY IS OR LIKELY TO BE A PARTY IN LITIGATION WITHOUT
9:55:30AM THE CONCURRENCE OF COUNSEL.
9:55:33AM >> I HAVE NOT LITIGATED ANYTHING.
9:55:35AM I'M JUST ASKING FOR MITIGATION.
9:55:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:55:39AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:55:39AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:55:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:55:47AM MY NAME IS SUSAN MORGAN.
9:55:49AM I'M REPRESENTING GRACEPOINT.
9:55:50AM THE ADDRESS 5707 NORTH 22nd STREET.
9:55:53AM WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE FROM THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS EAST
9:55:58AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND TO RESPECT YOUR TIME, WE
9:56:00AM DECIDED TO MAKE A COLLECTIVE STATEMENT.
9:56:03AM WE ARE HERE TODAY REFERENCING 5610 EAST HENRY AVENUE.
9:56:09AM AND THAT PARCEL WAS APPROVED FOR ZONING AS A MEDICAL
9:56:14AM MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER AS WELL AS PROCESSING AND
9:56:17AM DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
9:56:20AM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WHEN FLORIDIANS VOTED FOR MEDICAL
9:56:23AM MARIJUANA THAT THEY HAD INTENDED FOR THIS TO TYPE OF
9:56:27AM PROPERTY, FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROCESSING TO BE AS CLOSE
9:56:33AM PROXIMITY TO MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT
9:56:36AM CENTER AND CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
9:56:39AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS DETERMINED THAT A PROCESSING
9:56:42AM FACILITY CAN BE UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
9:56:45AM THAT IS THE EQUIVALENCY OF THREE FOOTBALL FIELDS.
9:56:47AM WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN BE PRODUCED ON THREE FOOTBALL
9:56:51AM FIELDS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL
9:56:53AM AS A TREATMENT CENTER, THAT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF
9:56:56AM SENSE.
9:56:58AM PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T THINK AHEAD ABOUT IT.
9:57:00AM I'M HERE TODAY AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORS TO ASK THAT IF IT'S
9:57:03AM NOT CURRENTLY IN THE ZONING, IT SAYS IT CAN BE IN INDUSTRIAL
9:57:06AM AREAS, IT SHOULDN'T BE IN MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:57:10AM MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND RELOOK AT THAT.
9:57:13AM THE OTHER THING IS YOU ALREADY HAVE A COPY OF THIS REPORT
9:57:16AM THAT -- IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
9:57:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE'S BETWEEN 60 TO 70 CITIES OR
9:57:22AM COUNTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BANNED ANY FUTURE MEDICAL
9:57:26AM MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.
9:57:29AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS THE ANSWER.
9:57:30AM MAYBE A MORATORIUM.
9:57:31AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE FLORIDA
9:57:34AM LEGISLATURE HAS REGAINED MOST OF THE CONTROL ON THIS, BUT I
9:57:37AM THINK THAT STEPPING BACK AND SAYING THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN
9:57:39AM DO IS NOT THE ANSWER AS WELL.
9:57:41AM AND AT THE END OF THIS REPORT, IT SAYS -- I APOLOGIZE -- THE
9:57:48AM CITY COULD ALSO BE EXPOSED TO LIABILITY FOR THE INFRINGEMENT
9:57:51AM OF EXISTING PROPERTY RIGHTS DUE TO THE INVESTMENT-BASED
9:57:55AM EXPECTATIONS OF THOSE WHO HAVE PURCHASED PROPERTY IN
9:57:58AM RELIANCE ON THE FACT THAT THEY -- YOU GUYS CAN READ THE REST
9:58:01AM OF IT.
9:58:02AM WHAT ABOUT EXISTING?
9:58:03AM WHAT ABOUT FOLKS AT GRACEPOINT THAT'S BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY
9:58:05AM FOR 70 YEARS?
9:58:07AM THINK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE PUT FORTH.
9:58:09AM ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE THAT ARE NOT
9:58:12AM EVEN FROM TAMPA, NOT EVEN FROM FLORIDA, THAT ARE MOVING HERE
9:58:15AM FROM OTHER STATES AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM AHEAD OF FOLKS
9:58:18AM THAT ARE ALREADY IN THIS COMMUNITY?
9:58:19AM SO I JUST ASK KINDLY THAT -- SAYING NOTHING WE CAN DO IS NOT
9:58:24AM THE ANSWER.
9:58:25AM MAYBE A TASK FORCE.
9:58:27AM MAYBE GOING TO THE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES AND ASKING WHAT
9:58:30AM THEY HAVE DONE.
9:58:31AM FINALLY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND I'VE DONE JUST LIMITED
9:58:33AM RESEARCH, NONE OF THESE CITIES OR STATES HAVE SUED AND NO
9:58:37AM LITIGATION AS TO THOSE DECISIONS.
9:58:39AM IT IS AN OPTION UNDER THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
9:58:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:58:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:58:43AM AND THANK YOU, LADIES.
9:58:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:58:44AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
9:58:49AM YES, MA'AM.
9:58:50AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST TO MAKE SURE?
9:58:54AM MR. GRANDOFF?
9:58:57AM OKAY.
9:58:57AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS STAFF HERE YET FOR 28 AND 40?
9:59:03AM OH, MR. GRANDOFF, SHE WAS FIRST.
9:59:06AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF ON 28 OR 40?
9:59:14AM HERE WE GO.
9:59:15AM OKAY.
9:59:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:59:18AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M ELLEN SNELLING.
9:59:21AM I'M A PARENT OF A DAUGHTER IN RECOVERY AND ALSO A MEMBER OF
9:59:27AM SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION GROUPS.
9:59:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES AND ALL MEMBERS OF
9:59:32AM THE CITY COUNCIL FOR LOOKING FURTHER INTO THE MEDICAL
9:59:35AM MARIJUANA BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY AND HOW TO POSSIBLY
9:59:38AM RESTRICT THOSE SO THEY WILL NOT BE IN OUR VULNERABLE
9:59:42AM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT ITEM 72 TODAY.
9:59:45AM AS SUSAN MENTIONED, AND I'M PASSING OUT A HANDOUT.
9:59:50AM I'VE DONE RESEARCH ON THIS.
9:59:52AM AND THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 65 TO 70 CITIES AND COUNTIES
9:59:55AM ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE ALREADY BANNED MEDICAL MARIJUANA
9:59:58AM DISPENSARIES.
10:00:00AM I KNOW PLANT CITY AND TEMPLE TERRACE RIGHT HERE IN
10:00:06AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THEY BOTH HAVE BANNED.
10:00:07AM I ATTEND ALMOST EVERY TEMPLE TERRACE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
10:00:09AM AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY MENTION OF LITIGATION.
10:00:12AM I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT SO FAR
10:00:15AM OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT.
10:00:18AM AMENDMENT 2 IS SILENT ON THE ABILITY OF CITIES AND COUNTIES
10:00:21AM TO BAN.
10:00:21AM SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AMENDMENT THAT SAYS THAT THEY
10:00:23AM CAN'T BAN.
10:00:25AM AND OUR LEGISLATURE CLEARLY SAID THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES
10:00:28AM MAY BAN MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.
10:00:33AM THERE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONE CITY.
10:00:35AM IT'S LAKE WORTH.
10:00:35AM IT'S ON THE OTHER COAST.
10:00:37AM AND THEY HAD TWO DISPENSARIES OPEN UP AND DECIDED THAT WAS
10:00:40AM ENOUGH FOR THEM, SO THEY BANNED FUTURE DISPENSARIES.
10:00:43AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST CAN BE CONSIDERED.
10:00:46AM THEY DID THAT A YEAR AGO AND SO FAR, AGAIN, I'VE NEVER HEARD
10:00:49AM OF ANY LITIGATION OVER THAT.
10:00:50AM IF A CITY DOES BAN NEW DISPENSARIES, THEY GRANDFATHER IN ALL
10:00:55AM THE OTHER ONES.
10:00:56AM SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY OPEN.
10:00:59AM ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS MORATORIUMS.
10:01:02AM THAT'S MORE OF A TEMPORARY BAN, AND THAT COULD -- YOU KNOW,
10:01:05AM IF YOU HAVE A REASON, I'M SURE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT KNOWS
10:01:08AM ALL ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED
10:01:11AM AND, IN FACT, CITY OF TAMPA HAS HAD A MORATORIUM ON MEDICAL
10:01:14AM MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES PRIOR.
10:01:17AM THERE IS A GROUP CALLED MARIJUANA POLICY GROUP, AND THEY ARE
10:01:20AM ACTUALLY AN INDUSTRY CONSULTANT.
10:01:22AM AND THEY CAME UP WITH AN OPTIMAL NUMBER OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA
10:01:26AM DISPENSARIES PER POPULATION.
10:01:29AM THEY SAID ONE DISPENSARY PER 67,222.
10:01:34AM TAMPA HAS A POPULATION JUST UNDER 400,000, ACCORDING TO THE
10:01:37AM 2018 CENSUS.
10:01:38AM THAT WOULD COME OUT -- I DID MY MATH ALREADY -- 6 TOTAL.
10:01:42AM WE ALREADY HAVE 7.
10:01:43AM THAT'S ONE OF THE HANDOUTS I SENT YOU.
10:01:44AM SHOWS THAT THERE ARE 7 DISPENSARIES ALREADY IN TAMPA.
10:01:47AM WE'RE ALREADY OVER THAT OPTIMAL LIMIT.
10:01:49AM ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA
10:01:54AM IS GOING -- MOST LIKELY BE ON THE BALLOT.
10:01:57AM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUSHING THAT BALLOT INITIATIVE ARE
10:02:01AM MEDICAL MARIJUANA INDUSTRY.
10:02:02AM SO ALL OF YOUR MEDICAL MARIJUANA SHOPS COULD ALSO BECOME
10:02:06AM RECREATIONAL.
10:02:08AM SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
10:02:09AM THEN WE HAVE THE VAPING CRISIS.
10:02:11AM A LOT OF THE VAPE OIL CRISIS HAS TO DO WITH MARIJUANA.
10:02:14AM WOULD THE CITY HAVE ANY LIABILITY IF SOMEONE PURCHASED VAPE
10:02:17AM OIL AT A MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AND GOT SICK?
10:02:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:02:22AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:02:23AM MR. GRANDOFF WE WILL BE BEGINNING AT 10 A.M. WITH STAFF
10:02:26AM REPORTS.
10:02:26AM SINCE YOU ARE THE LAST ONE AND YOUR ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA,
10:02:30AM COME FORWARD AND THEN MR. SNELLING.
10:02:32AM >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.
10:02:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:02:35AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
10:02:36AM COUNCIL AND COUNSEL, MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF, SUITE 3700,
10:02:41AM BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
10:02:42AM I SPOKE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA
10:02:45AM PERMITTING NEXT TO GRACEPOINT.
10:02:47AM I RAISED AN ISSUE AS TO THE NOTICE.
10:02:49AM I SHOWED YOU THE NOTICE THAT WAS PROVIDED.
10:02:51AM AFTER FURTHER REVIEW OF THAT NOTICE AND OF THE FILE, THE
10:02:55AM NOTICE WAS ADEQUATE, THOUGH NOT PERFECT, BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE
10:02:59AM WITH THE NOTICE.
10:03:00AM FURTHER, I DID FIND IN THE FILE A LETTER WRITTEN FROM
10:03:03AM GRACEPOINT'S EXECUTIVE, JOE RUTHERFORD, THAT WAS FILED WITH
10:03:08AM THAT APPLICATION.
10:03:10AM I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THOSE PROCESSES WERE FOLLOWED AND
10:03:14AM EVALUATED BY MS. COTTON AND MS. COYLE IN THEIR
10:03:17AM DELIBERATIONS.
10:03:17AM I ALSO REVIEWED MS. ZELMAN'S THOROUGH MEMO TO YOU.
10:03:21AM IT'S VERY WELL REASONED.
10:03:23AM I HAVE NO DISPUTE WITH IT.
10:03:26AM I WOULD OFFER, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE YOU CAN PASS FURTHER
10:03:28AM REGULATIONS GOING FURTHER, AND VEST OR GRANDFATHER EXISTING
10:03:35AM SITES, AND THEY WOULD BE PROTECTED.
10:03:38AM THEY WOULD LITERALLY BE FROZEN IN TIME.
10:03:40AM AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE'S AUTO REPAIR STATION IN PORT TAMPA
10:03:45AM THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:03:46AM IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER, BUT IT'S A VESTED GRANDFATHER USE.
10:03:50AM THERE IS A FARM DOWN NEAR PORT TAMPA THAT IS A VESTED
10:03:53AM GRANDFATHER USE.
10:03:53AM THESE NONCONFORMING USES CAN BE FROZEN IN TIME AND PROTECTED
10:03:57AM UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, YOU CAN PASS FURTHER DISTANCE
10:04:01AM REGULATIONS TO PROTECT FACILITIES LIKE GRACEPOINT AND
10:04:03AM OTHERS.
10:04:03AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:04:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:04:05AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:04:06AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO THE ITEM FOR 10 A.M., ITEM NUMBER 28,
10:04:11AM WHICH WAS PULLED, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:04:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T NEED A STAFF REPORT.
10:04:19AM I JUST WANTED TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
10:04:20AM THAT'S WHY I PULLED IT OUT.
10:04:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:04:23AM MR. SHELBY, WHEN WE DO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, I GUESS,
10:04:33AM MR. CARLSON, YOU'LL WANT TO HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO
10:04:37AM MR. MANISCALCO OR VOTE NO.
10:04:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT
10:04:44AM UNDER ROBERT'S RULES IS PASS THE GAVEL.
10:04:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:04:47AM NEXT, ITEM NUMBER 40.
10:04:52AM >>THOM SNELLING: THOM SNELLING, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND
10:04:55AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:04:55AM ITEM NUMBER 40 IS AN OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM. AWARDED
10:05:04AM TO EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:05:07AM THE OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM IS TO EFFECT EMERGENCY
10:05:12AM REPAIRS TO CITIZENS THAT ARE IN NEED OF VARIOUS ROOFING,
10:05:16AM ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, MOLD ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT
10:05:20AM COULD AFFECT THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN
10:05:23AM THERE.
10:05:23AM THIS AWARD WAS FOR UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS UTILIZING SHIP,
10:05:28AM HOME, AND CDBG MONEY.
10:05:33AM OF IT IMPLEMENTS WHAT WE CALL OUT IN OUR FIVE-YEAR
10:05:37AM CONSOLIDATED PLAN AS WELL AS THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE
10:05:40AM PLAN.
10:05:40AM PREVIOUSLY, THERE HAD BEEN APPROVED THE OTHER AWARDEE OF
10:05:44AM THIS RFP FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MILLION DOLLARS, EAST TAMPA
10:05:48AM -- OR CDC OF TAMPA, ERNEST CONEY'S ORGANIZATION, TO DO THE
10:05:53AM EXACT SAME THING.
10:05:54AM THAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
10:05:56AM THIS AGREEMENT IS IDENTICAL TO THAT, EXCEPT IT'S FOR THE
10:06:00AM EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:06:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SNELLING, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND
10:06:07AM SHARING THIS.
10:06:08AM I'M ALL FOR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF
10:06:13AM PROBLEMS IN A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE A RESULT OF THE
10:06:17AM LACK OF REHABBING.
10:06:18AM I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED MORE MONEY GOING TO REHAB IN OUR
10:06:24AM COMMUNITIES, BUT I WANT YOU TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM
10:06:28AM AS IT RELATES TO CRITERIA, HOW ONE CAN BE A PART, BECAUSE
10:06:32AM THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE.
10:06:33AM WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE CALL AND SAY THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH OR
10:06:37AM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OR HOW COME THEY DON'T
10:06:40AM QUALIFY.
10:06:41AM I THINK AS A MARKETING TOOL, WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW
10:06:44AM ABOUT THE PROGRAM SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE QUALIFIED OR LOOK AT
10:06:48AM WHAT CRITERIA IS HURTING PEOPLE TO GET PEOPLE QUALIFIED.
10:06:51AM EXPLAIN SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS TO GET THIS MONEY, TO GET
10:06:53AM THIS REHAB DONE.
10:06:59AM >>THOM SNELLING: THE FIRST QUALIFICATION, YOU HAVE TO BE
10:07:01AM INCOME QUALIFIED AND SENIOR OVER 65 YEARS OLD.
10:07:04AM ONCE YOU ARE INCOME QUALIFIED, IT'S BASED ON THE HUD
10:07:08AM STANDARDS FOR AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
10:07:10AM TYPICALLY IT'S 50% AMI AND IT GOES FORWARD FROM THERE.
10:07:14AM YOU MAKE A POINT, WE'RE -- PART OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IS
10:07:21AM MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THE WEB PAGE, MORE
10:07:24AM FAQ-TYPE STUFF ON THE WEB PAGE SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT AND
10:07:30AM UNDERSTAND HOW THEY QUALIFY.
10:07:32AM THE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER
10:07:36AM OR NOT YOU QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM.
10:07:38AM UNFORTUNATELY, SOME PEOPLE WHO THEY MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY, AND
10:07:42AM THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED.
10:07:44AM SO WE -- WELL, WE DON'T TRY.
10:07:47AM WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE HUD GUIDELINES ON INCOME QUALIFICATION
10:07:51AM OF 50 OR 80 PERCENT AMI AND PART OF THE SENIOR.
10:07:57AM THOSE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS OR CRITERIA TO QUALIFY FOR A
10:08:00AM LOAN IS SPELLED OUT ON THE WEB PAGE AND PERHAPS COULD BE A
10:08:05AM LITTLE BIT CLEARER AND WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT
10:08:07AM IMPROVING THAT FOR SURE.
10:08:10AM AGAIN, IT CANNOT BE USED FOR LIKE LUXURY KINDS OF ITEMS.
10:08:15AM IT'S STRICTLY, STRICTLY FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS, MAJOR
10:08:19AM EMERGENCY REPAIRS, ROOFING, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, AC,
10:08:25AM HAZARDOUS ELECTRIC, EXTERIOR DETERIORATION, WINDOW
10:08:30AM REPLACEMENT, WATER HEATER.
10:08:33AM LEAD-BASED REMEDIATION.
10:08:36AM IT'S THOSE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY HURTING INDIVIDUALS.
10:08:38AM YOU CAN'T SAY I'D LIKE TO REMODEL MY DEN OR SOMETHING LIKE
10:08:41AM THAT.
10:08:42AM IT HAS TO BE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THAT AND WE MONITOR
10:08:44AM THAT VERY CLOSELY.
10:08:46AM WE GO OUT.
10:08:47AM WE'LL DO A SCOPE -- WELL, WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
10:08:50AM ONE OF THE NOT FOR PROFITS.
10:08:52AM THIS CASE CDC OF TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC
10:08:54AM ASSOCIATION.
10:08:56AM THEY'LL GO OUT.
10:08:57AM THEY'LL WRITE UP A SCOPE OF WORK.
10:09:00AM WE REVIEW THAT SCOPE OF WORK.
10:09:02AM EXCUSE ME, WE REVIEW THAT SCOPE OF WORK TO MAKE SURE IT HITS
10:09:06AM ALL THOSE TYPES OF CRITERIA AND THEN WE APPROVE IT.
10:09:08AM THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SPEND UP TO $30,000 PER UNIT.
10:09:14AM IN THE RARE -- NOT THE RARE -- BUT IN THE UNFORTUNATE CASES
10:09:17AM SOMETIMES THE REPAIR IS MORE THAN THAT, THEY HAVE TO THEN
10:09:21AM USE HOME FUNDS, BECAUSE WHEN USING SHIP AND CDBG FUNDING,
10:09:27AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING THE ENTIRE UNIT UP TO CURRENT CODE.
10:09:30AM YOU CAN MAKE INDIVIDUAL, ISOLATED REPAIRS TO THAT WITH OTHER
10:09:35AM PARTS OF THE HOUSE STILL NOT BEING UP TO WHAT IS TYPICALLY
10:09:38AM REQUIRED IN THE CODE.
10:09:39AM WHEN YOU USE CDBG MONIES OR HOME MONIES, YOU HAVE TO BRING
10:09:47AM THAT STUFF UP TO CODE.
10:09:48AM THE ENTIRE UNIT THEN HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE.
10:09:51AM THOSE TEND TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
10:09:54AM THAT'S WHY THE MONEY FOR HOME, WE HAVE LESS HOME MONEY IN
10:10:00AM THIS POD.
10:10:01AM WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT MONEY IN THERE
10:10:04AM COMPARED TO $500,000 FOR SHIP AND $400,000 FOR CDBG.
10:10:10AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:10:14AM I HAVE LESS MONEY THAN PEOPLE IN NEED.
10:10:18AM WE'RE WORKING ON OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO STRETCH OUR DOLLAR.
10:10:22AM THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE RECENT CHANGES WE MADE WERE
10:10:24AM SPECIFICALLY FOR EMERGENCY KINDS OF THINGS.
10:10:28AM AND THE OTHER THING, SO SOMEONE DOESN'T COME IN, NOT THAT
10:10:33AM THIS HAS HAPPENED IN MY RECOLLECTION, IT'S IN THE FORM OF A
10:10:36AM DOWN PAYMENT OR A DEFERRED MORTGAGE PAYMENT.
10:10:40AM AND IT LASTS FOR FIVE YEARS.
10:10:42AM IT HAS A FIVE-YEAR LIEN, IF YOU WILL, ON THE PROPERTY.
10:10:45AM IF THE PERSON WHO IS LIVING THERE STAYS FIVE YEARS, THE
10:10:51AM FIRST DAY AFTER THAT, IT'S COMPLETELY FORGIVEN.
10:10:54AM IF, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY PASS IN THAT TIME, THE PERSON,
10:11:00AM WHOEVER OCCUPIES THAT UNIT BACK HAS TO BE INCOME QUALIFIED
10:11:04AM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NOT HAVING TO PAY OFF THAT LIEN.
10:11:08AM SOMETIMES FAMILY MEMBERS WILL COME BACK IN OR THE CHILDREN
10:11:13AM THAT ARE LIVING WITH THEIR GRANDMOTHER OR THEIR MOM OR DAD
10:11:16AM OR WHOEVER IT WAS, THEY'LL TAKE OVER THE HOUSE AND THEY HAVE
10:11:19AM TO BE INCOME QUALIFIED.
10:11:21AM I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER HAPPENED WHERE SOMEONE HAS LEFT
10:11:25AM AND HAD TO REPAY THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF DOWN PAYMENT
10:11:29AM ASSISTANCE.
10:11:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M HOPEFUL AND PRAYERFUL THAT WITH THE
10:11:33AM MAYOR'S NEW HOUSING BOARD AND HOPEFULLY WITH SUGGESTIONS
10:11:36AM FROM YOUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT THAT WE LOOK AT TRYING TO FIND
10:11:42AM DOLLARS THAT ARE NOT WITH SOME OF THE SHIP FUNDINGS AND HAVE
10:11:46AM ALL THESE STRINGENT CRITERIA IN HUD TO WHERE WE HAVE A
10:11:49AM SPECIAL FUND THAT WE CAN CURTAIL OUR OWN -- TO HELP PEOPLE
10:11:55AM THAT ARE NOT 65.
10:11:56AM THERE MAY BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE 45 WHO HAVE A HOME OR
10:12:00AM INHERITED A HOME BUT THEY CAN'T DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO
10:12:03AM MAKE IT LIVABLE TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE LIVABLE.
10:12:06AM I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE THAT YOURSELF AND YOUR DEPARTMENT
10:12:08AM WILL MAKE THESE SUGGESTIONS TO THE MAYOR AND THE BOARD AND
10:12:13AM SOME OF THE CAC BOARDS TO SAY, HEY, COULD YOU DEVELOP A
10:12:17AM PROGRAM TO HELP SOME OF THE BLIGHTED AREAS WITH PEOPLE WHO
10:12:20AM ARE STRUGGLING TO BE IN A HOME.
10:12:23AM I THINK THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT.
10:12:24AM I LIKE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, BUT WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE
10:12:27AM BIT MORE.
10:12:28AM I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL CARRY THE BATON TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
10:12:32AM AND TO THE BOARD AND THE CACs TO SAY WE NEED A FUND.
10:12:36AM IF THE CAC BOARDS CAN COME TO THE CRA BOARD, WE HAVE OUR OWN
10:12:40AM SPECIAL FUND THAT DOESN'T HAVE STRINGENT CRITERIA FROM HUD,
10:12:44AM SHIP, ALL THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
10:12:46AM ALSO, IF WE HAVE ANOTHER WAY OF FUNDING WITHIN THE CITY
10:12:49AM ITSELF TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE FUNDS AND HAVE OUR OWN TYPE OF
10:12:53AM CRITERIA TO HELP OUR CITIZENS, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
10:12:55AM THE NEW FOUNDATION THAT WE'VE GOT TO TRY TO BUILD AND
10:12:57AM HOPEFULLY YOU'LL TAKE THAT BACK.
10:12:59AM BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE PROGRAM WE DO HAVE, BUT IT'S JUST
10:13:03AM NOT ENOUGH.
10:13:08AM >>THOM SNELLING: I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE
10:13:12AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE FIRST TWO
10:13:13AM THAT I SAT IN ON THIS WAS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.
10:13:15AM I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO COME UP ALSO TO RECOMMEND
10:13:17AM CREATIVE WAYS TO EXPAND EXISTING PROGRAMS AND TO FUND
10:13:20AM EXISTING PROGRAMS IN A DIFFERENT FASHION, TOO.
10:13:22AM IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT AS
10:13:24AM THEIR FINAL REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:13:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: PARTLY RELATED QUESTION.
10:13:33AM UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THE CITY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY
10:13:35AM AND TIME ON THE ENVISION PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN, SO WHATEVER YOU
10:13:38AM CALL IT, A VISION PLAN OR A MASTER PLAN.
10:13:42AM HAS THE CITY DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR PLANNING ON DOING
10:13:45AM ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR EAST TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA,
10:13:48AM WEST TAMPA?
10:13:49AM MY PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE INDEPENDENT PIECES IS I DON'T SEE
10:13:52AM HOW THEY ALL FIT TOGETHER, WHAT THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN IS.
10:13:56AM >>THOM SNELLING: THE MASTER PLAN FOR OUR HOUSING IS OUTLINED
10:14:00AM IN A FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
10:14:02AM IT SETS OUT THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND HOW YOU HAVE TO
10:14:06AM MOVE ON IT AND ALSO THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN THAT'S
10:14:09AM UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
10:14:10AM BASICALLY IT SERVES AS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THESE
10:14:13AM THINGS.
10:14:13AM SO FROM A HOUSING PERSPECTIVE, WE FOLLOW THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN
10:14:19AM AND IT'S UPDATED.
10:14:22AM COUNCIL HAD TO RECENTLY AMEND IT IF YOU RECALL A COUPLE OF
10:14:25AM MEETINGS AGO, WE HAD TO AMEND BOTH OF THOSE PLANS BECAUSE
10:14:30AM ALTHOUGH IT RECOGNIZED THAT WE COULD USE FEDERAL MONEY TO
10:14:35AM PURCHASE PROPERTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT WASN'T
10:14:38AM IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF OUR GOALS, SO WE HAD TO GO IN THERE
10:14:41AM MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.
10:14:42AM YOU DID THAT, THANK YOU.
10:14:43AM NOW WE'RE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES USING
10:14:47AM THOSE MONIES IN ORDER TO EXPAND OUR INVENTORY OF AFFORDABLE
10:14:49AM HOUSING POTENTIAL.
10:14:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU KNOW ON A HIGHER LEVEL, THOUGH,
10:14:53AM SOMETHING EQUIVALENT TO THE ENVISION PLAN IS THERE ANYTHING
10:14:56AM LIKE THAT OR ANYTHING THAT WORKS LIKE THAT FOR ANY OTHER
10:14:58AM PART OF THE CITY BESIDES DOWNTOWN?
10:15:00AM >>THOM SNELLING: WE HAVE, WE HAVE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:15:02AM THAT WORKS FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.
10:15:04AM AND IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT TALKS ABOUT THE VARIOUS
10:15:07AM TYPES OF DISTRICTS AND SECTIONS, REDEVELOPMENT AREAS,
10:15:13AM DEVELOPMENT AREAS, PRESERVATION AREAS, SOMETHING IDENTICAL
10:15:20AM TO THE ENVISION PLAN, NO, SIR.
10:15:24AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
10:15:26AM I MEAN, IT REALLY DOES COVER A LOT.
10:15:28AM WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CODES AND
10:15:31AM POLICIES FOLLOW THAT PLAN.
10:15:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY COMMENT IS NOT A CRITICISM.
10:15:36AM THE WAY I THINK IS TO TRY TO THINK HOLISTICALLY, WHAT'S OUR
10:15:40AM PLAN FOR THE CITY COMPREHENSIVELY AND THEN WHAT IS OUR PLAN
10:15:44AM FOR DIFFERENT PIECES OF IT?
10:15:46AM AND WHAT ARE OUR GOALS AND THEN HOW DO THE SUBPLANS FIT INTO
10:15:50AM IT?
10:15:51AM I MENTIONED BEFORE, I USED TO LIVE IN SINGAPORE.
10:15:58AM SINGAPORE WOULD PUBLISH A BOOK EVERY YEAR FOR ITS VISION AND
10:16:03AM IT COVERED MAJOR AREAS.
10:16:04AM THIS IS AN OFF-LINE CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE.
10:16:06AM I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO
10:16:09AM KNOW AND RALLY AROUND SOMETHING IF WE HAVE SPECIFICS.
10:16:11AM IT'S ONE THING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT CITY, BUT IF
10:16:14AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN TO ACHIEVE IT, I THINK IT WILL BE
10:16:18AM EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUY IN.
10:16:19AM SAME THING, REMEMBER WITH THE CYCLING, THE CYCLING ISSUE ON
10:16:22AM BAY TO BAY, THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING
10:16:26AM WHO ARE AGAINST IT, DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE OVERALL PLAN FOR
10:16:29AM CYCLING WAS.
10:16:30AM NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE A CITYWIDE BICYCLE
10:16:33AM PLAN AND MAP.
10:16:34AM ANYWAY, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT OFF-LINE.
10:16:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM 40?
10:16:43AM >>THOM SNELLING: COUNCIL, THANK YOU.
10:16:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, WE HAVE THE WALK-ON ITEM.
10:16:50AM >>SAL TERRITO: SAL TERRITO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:16:52AM AS YOU RECALL, WE HAD AN ITEM THAT CAME BEFORE YOU IN THE
10:16:55AM CRA AND BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD COME BACK
10:16:58AM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:16:59AM THIS IS THE PROJECT WHERE WE'RE PIGGYBACKING ONTO ANOTHER
10:17:03AM PROJECT DONE BY A DEVELOPER SO WE CAN GET SOME OF OUR WORK
10:17:05AM DONE IN A MORE RAPID WAY.
10:17:07AM WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS ONE SINCE YOU APPROVED IT
10:17:10AM LAST WEEK.
10:17:11AM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
10:17:14AM THIS IS A ROUTINE KIND OF MATTER.
10:17:15AM THE CRA IS PAYING FOR THIS.
10:17:17AM NOT THE CITY PER SE.
10:17:18AM THIS IS COMING OUT OF CRA FUNDING.
10:17:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:17:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE TOWER PROJECT GOING IN BY
10:17:25AM THE STRAZ.
10:17:26AM >>SAL TERRITO: CORRECT.
10:17:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DOES CONSTRUCTION -- IF AND WHEN
10:17:31AM THIS IS APPROVED HERE, THIS IS THE FINAL STEP TO GET IT
10:17:34AM MOVING FORWARD.
10:17:34AM >>SAL TERRITO: ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE CONFUSION IS
10:17:38AM COMING IN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE
10:17:41AM OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT.
10:17:42AM YOU WERE TOLD LAST WEEK, THEY WANTED TO GET IT DONE AS
10:17:46AM QUICKLY AS THEY CAN SO IT DOESN'T HOLD UP THE STRAZ NOVEMBER
10:17:49AM OPENING FOR SOME OF THEIR SHOWS.
10:17:53AM THEY WANT TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:17:56AM THEY CAN GET THE CONSTRUCTION OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE IT
10:17:58AM INTERFERES WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING SET UP BY THE
10:18:01AM STRAZ.
10:18:02AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
10:18:03AM IT'S A FAIRLY RAPID PROGRAM.
10:18:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING TO VOTE ON IN
10:18:08AM THE FUTURE FOR THE ACTUAL --
10:18:10AM >>SAL TERRITO: ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, NO.
10:18:12AM ALL YOU'RE DOING IS THE FUNDING FOR PAYING FOR THAT
10:18:16AM PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION.
10:18:16AM THIS IS NOT REALLY SOMETHING, WITH THE STRAZ ITSELF.
10:18:20AM THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME UP.
10:18:22AM THIS IS THEM DOING SOMETHING FOR US WHILE IN THE VICINITY
10:18:25AM DOING WORK ON THEIR OWN PROJECT.
10:18:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:18:30AM ANY QUESTIONS?
10:18:31AM DO WE, WHAT, MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
10:18:37AM >>SAL TERRITO: YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE
10:18:39AM EXPENDITURE.
10:18:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE INTERESTED IN MAKING THAT MOTION?
10:18:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:18:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:18:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION.
10:18:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:48AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:18:50AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:18:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:18:52AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:18:53AM THANK YOU.
10:18:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, YOU CAN -- THE DEPARTMENT JUST
10:19:03AM CAME IN AND GAVE A BRIEFING ON MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR
10:19:06AM PEOPLE REALLY IN NEED.
10:19:08AM AT THE END OF THE MEETING, I'M GOING TO BRING UP SOMETHING I
10:19:10AM SAW IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME.
10:19:13AM IT WAS ABOUT PACE.
10:19:17AM YOU GET MONEY BUT IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AD VALOREM TAXES.
10:19:22AM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THERE, YOU MIGHT LOSE YOUR HOUSE.
10:19:24AM I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THAT.
10:19:25AM I'LL BRING THIS UP LATER.
10:19:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:19:28AM I BELIEVE ALSO MS. ZELMAN IS HERE FOR 72.
10:19:33AM DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT ONE NOW, MA'AM?
10:19:39AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING.
10:19:40AM ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:19:42AM I WANT TO FIRST APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTH OF MY STAFF REPORT.
10:19:46AM I DID LEAN TOWARD THE LENGTHY LEGAL MEMO AND I APOLOGIZE,
10:19:52AM BUT I DID THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT.
10:19:54AM THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE PARTICULAR MEDICAL
10:19:57AM MARIJUANA TREATMENT FACILITY WAS RATHER BROAD AND SOME OF
10:20:00AM THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS AND THE MOTION WERE BROAD AS WELL,
10:20:03AM AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYTHING OUT.
10:20:08AM IN SUM, THE QUESTION WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARTICULAR
10:20:12AM FACILITY ON EAST HENRY NEAR 22nd STREET.
10:20:17AM AS I EXPLAINED, THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY WAS THE SUBJECT OF
10:20:21AM A FORMAL DECISION LETTER ISSUED BY THE ZONING SUPERVISOR.
10:20:26AM IT FOUND THAT BECAUSE THE FACILITY WAS ZONED IG, WAS WITHIN
10:20:31AM 500 FEET OF A SCHOOL, THAT IT COULD BE OPERATED AT THAT
10:20:36AM LOCATION.
10:20:37AM AND THEN TO THE NEXT QUESTION, WHICH WAS CAN ANYTHING BE
10:20:43AM DONE TO PREVENT THESE FROM BEING OPENED AT OTHER LOCATIONS?
10:20:48AM THAT WAS WHERE I WENT TO THE HISTORY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN
10:20:51AM DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WAS THAT THERE WAS,
10:20:54AM OF COURSE, A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT WHERE 71.3% OF
10:20:58AM FLORIDA VOTERS VOTED TO MAKE MEDICAL MARIJUANA MORE
10:21:02AM AVAILABLE TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PRESCRIBED IT FOR
10:21:08AM VERY SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
10:21:12AM COUNCIL IN 2017 WAIVED THE QUESTION OF HOW TO LEGISLATE WITH
10:21:16AM THE LIMITED POWER THAT YOU'RE GIVEN BY THE STATE.
10:21:20AM AGAIN, AS I GO INTO IN GREAT DETAIL IN THE MEMO, THE STATE
10:21:24AM HAS LARGELY PREEMPTED WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN DO WITH
10:21:28AM REGARD TO CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING FACILITIES, THE ONLY
10:21:31AM THING THE CITY CAN DO IS LIMIT THEM TO BE NOT LOCATED WITHIN
10:21:36AM 500 FEET OF A SCHOOL.
10:21:39AM WITH RESPECT TO DISPENSING FACILITIES, THE CITY DID HAVE THE
10:21:44AM OPTION TO OUTRIGHT BAN THEM.
10:21:45AM ONCE THE CITY MADE THE DECISION TO NOT BAN THEM, AGAIN, YOU
10:21:49AM WERE VERY LIMITED IN WHAT YOU COULD DO IN TERMS OF LOCATION,
10:21:52AM AGAIN, PRIMARILY NO MORE THAN 500 FEET FROM A SCHOOL.
10:21:55AM SINCE THE QUESTION THAT SEEMS TO BE RESONATING THE MOST IS,
10:21:59AM WELL, COULD YOU BAN THEM NOW, I DID TRY TO ADDRESS THAT.
10:22:03AM AGAIN, I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO WHAT I DID, GO BACK TO 2017 AND
10:22:08AM READ THE TRANSCRIPTS BECAUSE SOME OF YOU WERE NOT ON THE
10:22:11AM CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME.
10:22:12AM SOME OF YOU WERE.
10:22:13AM THERE WAS A VERY EMOTIONAL AND HEATED DISCUSSION THEN, BUT
10:22:18AM THE COUNCIL DID VOTE TO HAVE THESE MEDICAL MARIJUANA
10:22:24AM DISPENSING FACILITIES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE AVAILABILITY
10:22:27AM OF IT TO PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
10:22:32AM THE RECOMMENDATION THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS MAKING AT THIS
10:22:36AM TIME, WE WOULD CAUTION YOU NOT TO TRY TO RETROACTIVELY
10:22:43AM IMPOSE A BAN NOW.
10:22:44AM YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE ALREADY
10:22:47AM OPERATING AND WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING USES.
10:22:51AM WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PURCHASED PROPERTY AGAIN WITH
10:22:54AM THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY CAN OPEN THEM.
10:22:57AM AND WE WOULD BE JEOPARDIZING THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS.
10:23:00AM AND THERE IS STILL A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER A BAN WOULD
10:23:04AM SURVIVE A LEGAL CHALLENGE.
10:23:06AM I WOULD NOTE THAT, YES, MANY CITIES, I THINK IT SAYS
10:23:11AM SOMETHING LIKE 60 CITIES IN FLORIDA CHOSE TO BAN IT, BUT
10:23:15AM THERE'S OVER 400 INCORPORATED MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF
10:23:19AM FLORIDA.
10:23:20AM SO THE VAST MAJORITY DID DO WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DID WHICH
10:23:24AM IS NOT BAN THESE FACILITIES.
10:23:26AM AGAIN, I THINK OUR BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT
10:23:33AM YOU NOT EVEN CONSIDER IMPOSING A BAN OR A MORATORIUM AT THIS
10:23:37AM TIME.
10:23:39AM AGAIN, ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS I WOULD SAY IS YOU CAN ONLY
10:23:43AM BAN -- YOU ONLY HAVE THE OPTION TO BAN DISPENSING
10:23:47AM FACILITIES.
10:23:47AM THE CITY NEVER HAS AND DOES NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO BAN
10:23:50AM CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING FACILITIES.
10:23:53AM FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE ON EAST HANNA, WHICH IS BOTH.
10:23:56AM IT'S PRIMARILY A CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING FACILITY, AND
10:24:00AM THEY'VE ALSO ASKED TO BE ALLOWED TO DISTRIBUTE THERE, IT
10:24:05AM WOULD NOT GO AWAY IF YOU WERE TO BAN DISPENSARIES BECAUSE
10:24:09AM AGAIN IT'S ALSO PLANNING TO DO CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING.
10:24:13AM I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:24:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LITTLE CONFUSED.
10:24:19AM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY RIGHT NOW WILL BE BOTH, CULTIVATING,
10:24:29AM SELLING, AND SO FORTH.
10:24:30AM YOU SAY THAT YOU DON'T RECOMMEND A BAN ON ANYTHING.
10:24:39AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE FEARFUL OF A LAWSUIT OR
10:24:43AM WHAT HAVE YOU.
10:24:44AM THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET MARIJUANA,
10:24:48AM I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES OR AREAS THEY CAN GET IT
10:24:51AM FROM.
10:24:51AM AS A CITY AND AS A COUNCILMAN AND LISTENING TO CONSTITUENTS
10:24:56AM -- AND I DROVE BY THAT AREA.
10:25:00AM TO PUT THAT TYPE OF FACILITY WHERE WE HAVE A POLICE
10:25:04AM COMMUNICATION CENTER NEXT TO IT, WE HAVE AN APARTMENT
10:25:09AM COMPLEX WITH HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN, A BUS STOP.
10:25:14AM MENTAL HEALTH CENTER, DRUG TREATMENT CENTER, TWO BEHAVIORAL
10:25:17AM SCHOOLS, A HEAD START PROGRAM, AS A COUNCILMAN AND AS A
10:25:23AM CITIZEN WHO LIVES IN THE AREA, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CANNOT
10:25:26AM ADDRESS SOME ISSUES ON THIS, KNOWING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A
10:25:33AM STREET THAT IS FULL OF SERVICES TO COMMUNITIES, VIABLE
10:25:38AM SERVICES.
10:25:38AM I LOOK AT A POLICE COMMUNICATION CENTER, FIRE AND POLICE,
10:25:43AM AND JUST LOOKING AT HAVING THAT TYPE OF FACILITY, SOME OF
10:25:48AM THE CRIME AREAS WE DO HAVE IN THAT AREA, I THINK THAT'S
10:25:52AM GOING TO BRING ON MORE TO THAT COMMUNITY.
10:25:54AM THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY ON THAT PROPERTY.
10:26:00AM REAL SECURITY.
10:26:01AM TO ME, THAT'S A PROBLEM WHEN I'VE ALREADY GOT SOME
10:26:05AM CHALLENGES IN THE DISTRICT, AND I JUST LOOK AT POSSIBLE
10:26:09AM ROBBERY, POSSIBLE ATTEMPTS ON THIS PLACE THAT'S CULTIVATING
10:26:13AM THIS STUFF.
10:26:14AM OPEN AREA SALES.
10:26:19AM PEOPLE ARE ROBBING THESE PLACES NOW.
10:26:21AM I JUST LOOK AT WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION.
10:26:25AM WE CAN'T JUST SAY DO NOTHING.
10:26:27AM WE HAVE TO SAY, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO?
10:26:29AM I'M LOOKING FOR LEGAL TO SAY WHAT CAN WE DO.
10:26:33AM LET'S NOT DO NOTHING.
10:26:34AM THOSE ARE THE ANSWERS THAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
10:26:36AM WHAT CAN WE DO MOVING FORWARD.
10:26:38AM WE CAN'T STOP THE ONES ALREADY IN SERVICE, THAT'S FINE.
10:26:44AM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:26:44AM BUT GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO SAY TO THE
10:26:49AM CITIZENS, WE HEAR YOUR CRY.
10:26:51AM TO ME, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN IN THAT AREA.
10:26:54AM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.
10:26:59AM I JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR LET'S DO NOTHING.
10:27:02AM I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOLUTIONS SO THE CITIZENS ARE
10:27:05AM HAPPY, TOO, AND NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING.
10:27:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN CITRO,
10:27:10AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:27:15AM ALONG, MS. ZELMAN, WHAT MR. GUDES WAS STARTING TO SAY AND
10:27:19AM CONTINUING ON THAT SAME IDEA, YOU HAVE DISPENSARIES AND THEN
10:27:23AM YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL MANUFACTURING OF IT.
10:27:27AM CAN WE DO ANYTHING REGARDING THE DISPENSARIES IN THIS SAME
10:27:31AM LOCATION?
10:27:32AM OR THE PRESCRIPTION -- THE BUYING OF IT RIGHT THERE?
10:27:38AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER NOW OR WAIT UNTIL
10:27:41AM EVERYONE WAS DONE?
10:27:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, WHATEVER.
10:27:44AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, I CERTAINLY HOPE
10:27:47AM NO ONE THINKS I'M BEING INSENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS OF THE
10:27:53AM PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
10:27:54AM IN REGARD TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' QUESTION, WITH CULTIVATING
10:27:58AM AND PROCESSING FACILITIES, THE STATE REALLY DID TIE YOUR
10:28:02AM HANDS.
10:28:03AM WE CANNOT BAN THOSE IN THE CITY.
10:28:05AM THE CITY ATTEMPTED TO LIMIT THEM REALLY AS MUCH AS WE COULD
10:28:09AM BY LIMITING THEM TO ONLY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH
10:28:12AM LIMITS THEM TO A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE CITY.
10:28:15AM UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE, THE PROPERTY AT ISSUE WAS ZONED
10:28:20AM INDUSTRIAL.
10:28:21AM AGAIN, WITH REGARD TO DISPENSARIES, THE CITY DID HAVE THE
10:28:26AM OPTION AND DOES HAVE THE OPTION UNDER THE STATUTE TO BAN
10:28:30AM THEM CITYWIDE.
10:28:31AM OUR CONCERN AT THIS POINT IS THE CITY EXPRESSLY CHOSE NOT TO
10:28:35AM DO THAT IN 2017.
10:28:37AM PEOPLE WENT FORWARD, BUILT FACILITIES.
10:28:39AM PEOPLE WENT FORWARD, PURCHASED PROPERTY TO OPEN DISPENSARIES
10:28:44AM AND WERE CONCERNED THAT IF YOU NOW AFTER THE FACT WENT BACK
10:28:48AM AND BANNED THEM GOING FORWARD, WE WOULD BE OPENING OURSELVES
10:28:52AM TO LITIGATION.
10:28:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PART B OF THE QUESTION, CAN THE LIMIT OF
10:28:58AM DISTANCE BE CHANGED OR STILL PART OF LEGAL --
10:29:02AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE 500 FEET DISTANCE FROM THE SCHOOLS IS
10:29:04AM ACTUALLY IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
10:29:06AM I GUESS IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT MORE CAN WE DO, AS
10:29:10AM I MENTIONED, COUNCILMAN GUDES, AT THE CRA MEETING, TO SOME
10:29:13AM EXTENT, PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE THESE CONCERNS TO THE
10:29:16AM LEGISLATURE AND MAYBE PERHAPS REVISIT THE LEGISLATION
10:29:21AM BECAUSE IT'S THE LEGISLATION THAT LIMIT --
10:29:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVEN WE CAN'T BAN THE INDUSTRIAL, WE CAN'T
10:29:33AM SAY WE DON'T WANT OR CHANGE OUR -- WHAT IS THE RIGHT WORD TO
10:29:38AM USE?
10:29:38AM IF IT'S IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA HAS
10:29:45AM THESE -- ALL THE FACILITIES IN IT, WE CAN'T MAKE AN OPTION
10:29:49AM TO SAY NOT BAN IT, BUT CAN'T BE THERE BECAUSE OF THESE OTHER
10:29:53AM THINGS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA.
10:29:57AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE CULTIVATING AND
10:30:00AM PROCESSING NOW OR DISPENSING?
10:30:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING.
10:30:05AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE IN THE STATUTE THAT
10:30:07AM SAYS THAT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS REQUIRE THAT IT NOT
10:30:10AM BE WITHIN 500 FEET OF A SCHOOL IS ALL WE CAN DO.
10:30:15AM WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE CREATIVE WE
10:30:19AM CAN THINK ABOUT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE STATUTE.
10:30:23AM BUT ON INITIAL READ AND INITIAL RESEARCH, UNFORTUNATELY, I
10:30:26AM BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS NO.
10:30:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES IT FIT IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY FOR
10:30:31AM THAT FACILITY TO BE THERE?
10:30:34AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WHETHER IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE EAST
10:30:36AM TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, I DON'T KNOW.
10:30:38AM BUT THE STATE STATUTE WOULD HAVE TRUMPED THAT ANYWAY.
10:30:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE
10:30:45AM QUESTIONS?
10:30:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M FINISHED.
10:30:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO, MANISCALCO.
10:30:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAL, YOU WON'T HAVE TO GET UP.
10:30:52AM DON'T WORRY.
10:30:53AM I'LL CONTROL MYSELF ON THIS ONE.
10:30:55AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP SOME VERY
10:30:57AM GREAT POINTS AND ASKED FOR A GREAT REQUEST.
10:31:03AM FROM THIS POINT ON, WHAT DO WE DO?
10:31:06AM I WON'T KEEP HARPING ON THAT.
10:31:08AM WHAT I'LL SUGGEST, THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS
10:31:11AM TYPE OF THING -- SAL, I'LL WATCH MY Ps AND Qs -- PLEASE
10:31:16AM CONTACT YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES.
10:31:18AM CONTACT YOUR STATE SENATORS.
10:31:21AM THIS IS ANOTHER INFRINGEMENT UPON LOCAL RULE WHERE OUR
10:31:27AM CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA CANNOT
10:31:31AM DO WHAT THEY FEEL BEST.
10:31:34AM TAKE THE HANDCUFFS OFF OF US AND LET US DO WHAT WE DO BEST.
10:31:40AM CONTACT YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND YOUR STATE
10:31:44AM REPRESENTATIVES.
10:31:44AM HOME RULE.
10:31:45AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:31:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:31:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AS THESE KINDS OF
10:31:50AM TOPICS REGARDING MARIJUANA, MEDICAL MARIJUANA,
10:31:52AM DECRIMINALIZATION, ALL THAT STUFF HAVE COME UP, I'VE MADE MY
10:31:56AM COMMENTS KNOWN.
10:31:57AM I'M ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE, BUT THERE IS A RIGHT AND WRONG
10:32:00AM PLACE TO PUT SOMETHING.
10:32:01AM IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE CHALLENGES, FOR EXAMPLE, EAST
10:32:03AM TAMPA, WHERE YOU HAVE SCHOOLS, WHERE YOU HAVE SO MANY
10:32:07AM CHILDREN LIVING NEARBY, WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE IN THIS?
10:32:11AM REALLY.
10:32:14AM IT'S NOTHING AGAINST MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN GENERAL.
10:32:17AM I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE NEED IT.
10:32:19AM PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, PEOPLE THAT USE IT AND WHATNOT.
10:32:21AM I HAD PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT FAMILY MEMBERS WITH CANCER.
10:32:26AM IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO IT, WOULD THAT HAVE EASED THEIR
10:32:30AM SUFFERING?
10:32:30AM NOT CURED THEM BUT WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN MORE COMFORTABLE?
10:32:34AM BEYOND THAT, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU HAVE POLICE, YOU
10:32:37AM KNOW, THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
10:32:39AM YOU HAVE SO MANY CHILDREN.
10:32:40AM YOU HAVE BUS STOPS.
10:32:41AM THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
10:32:43AM IT'S LIKE PUTTING A LIQUOR STORE, YOU KNOW, WHERE AN AA
10:32:46AM MEETING IS TAKING PLACE.
10:32:47AM GRACEPOINT AND WHATNOT, THEY ARE TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE HELP,
10:32:53AM TREATMENT, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS
10:32:57AM TEMPTATION RIGHT THERE.
10:32:59AM ALSO WITH THE SAFETY ISSUE.
10:33:01AM IT MIGHT BE IN THE PAPER TODAY.
10:33:02AM A GENTLEMAN IN BRADENTON WAS KILLED AT A VAPE SHOP.
10:33:06AM I DON'T KNOW IF I READ THAT RIGHT.
10:33:08AM THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING
10:33:12AM ROBBED.
10:33:12AM A FACILITY OF THIS CALIBER THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE SECURITY,
10:33:17AM THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IT'S JUST OUT OF
10:33:21AM PLACE.
10:33:22AM AS COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID, IT'S ALWAYS TALLAHASSEE KNOWS
10:33:26AM BEST.
10:33:27AM THEY ARE BINDING OUR HANDS AND PUTTING HANDCUFFS ON US AS TO
10:33:31AM WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:33:32AM WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING OUR OWN GOVERNMENT IF THE
10:33:35AM CAPITAL DICTATES WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
10:33:38AM WHY HAVE ORDINANCES AND LAWS WHERE WE HAVE TO NOW INSTEAD
10:33:41AM MAKE EXCUSES AS TO WHY WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING.
10:33:44AM THAT'S IT.
10:33:45AM THANK YOU.
10:33:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: MS. ZELMAN, THIS FACILITY IS THERE GOING TO BE
10:33:51AM MARIJUANA THERE?
10:33:53AM JUST TO CLARIFY, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE EXACTLY?
10:33:56AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: HAVING READ THE APPLICATION, ALL I CAN SAY
10:34:01AM IS THAT THEY ASKED FOR THE ABILITY TO CULTIVATE, PROCESS,
10:34:04AM AND DISTRIBUTE.
10:34:06AM ALL THREE.
10:34:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
10:34:10AM JUST TO CONFIRM THAT.
10:34:11AM ONE ISSUE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE
10:34:14AM BEEN HAD HERE.
10:34:15AM BUT ONE ISSUE I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON WHICH
10:34:18AM IS THAT WE'RE ALSO DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A MEDICINE
10:34:22AM FOR PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO NOT INADVERTENTLY
10:34:26AM THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS SHAME PEOPLE FOR USING MEDICINE
10:34:30AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARY.
10:34:32AM I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY HERE IS DOING THAT.
10:34:34AM BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE FRAME THIS ISSUE.
10:34:38AM THE LARGER ISSUE TO ME REALLY HERE IS THE WAY THAT OUR
10:34:41AM COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY HAS RESPONDED TO THE ISSUE OF
10:34:45AM MARIJUANA IN THE LAST 40 OR 50 YEARS.
10:34:48AM I COME TO THIS AS A PERSON, I'VE NEVER USED DRUGS IN MY
10:34:52AM LIFE.
10:34:52AM I JUST NEVER HAVE.
10:34:54AM IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'VE EVER USED.
10:34:56AM BUT THE PUNITIVE NATURE THAT WE'VE HAD ON MARIJUANA AS A
10:35:03AM LARGER ISSUE IN OUR COUNTRY IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY
10:35:06AM HAS BEEN ACUTE ON MANY, MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
10:35:08AM AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE LARGER ISSUE THAT WE'RE
10:35:11AM DEALING WITH HERE.
10:35:14AM AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR
10:35:17AM FACILITY THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONCERNS, OBVIOUSLY
10:35:19AM THAT WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO.
10:35:20AM WHAT LEGALLY WE CAN DO AS TO THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, WE'LL
10:35:25AM SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
10:35:26AM BUT I THINK JUST A LARGER ISSUE THAT IS RELEVANT, IN MY
10:35:31AM OPINION, AS WELL.
10:35:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DO RESPECT YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR
10:35:37AM OPINION.
10:35:37AM I DON'T THINK THIS BOARD IS TRYING TO WAIVER ANYTHING FROM
10:35:41AM ANYBODY WHO NEEDS THIS PRODUCT FOR MEDICAL REASON.
10:35:48AM I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
10:35:50AM THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, WHAT IS
10:35:57AM GOING TO GO THERE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A DETRIMENT TO THE
10:36:01AM COMMUNITY THAT'S TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE AND TRYING TO GET OUT
10:36:05AM OF POVERTY AND TRYING TO GET OUT OF A CRIME-RIDDEN PLACE.
10:36:08AM WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PRODUCT AND I LOOK AT THE
10:36:13AM THOUSANDS OF BLACK FOLKS THAT ARE IN PRISON TODAY FOR LESS
10:36:20AM THAN 20 GRAMS OF MARIJUANA AND NOW IT'S OPEN SEASON,
10:36:23AM MARIJUANA IS THE THING.
10:36:24AM IT'S NOTHING BUT A GATEWAY TO LEGALIZING IT AND PEOPLE
10:36:29AM MAKING MONEY.
10:36:29AM WE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY, BUT YET IN THOSE OTHER
10:36:35AM COMMUNITIES, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY TO MAKE A LIVING.
10:36:39AM IT WAS ILLEGAL AND WENT TO PRISON.
10:36:42AM NOW WE'RE GOING TO LEGALIZE IT SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE
10:36:45AM MONEY.
10:36:46AM THAT'S HOW IT GOES.
10:36:48AM MY BIG THING IS AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION SOON.
10:36:53AM I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO PROCEDURES.
10:36:55AM BUT I NEED STAFF TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW CAN WE HELP OUR
10:36:59AM CONSTITUENTS WITH THIS ISSUE?
10:37:02AM LET'S FIND A SOLUTION.
10:37:03AM LET'S FIND A WAY TO DO SOMETHING.
10:37:05AM WE CAN'T NOT DO ANYTHING.
10:37:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:37:08AM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:37:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:37:10AM I KNOW THE CHAIR ALWAYS HAS THE LAST WORD.
10:37:13AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:37:13AM I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE CONFUSED BY MY STATEMENT.
10:37:16AM SAL, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
10:37:17AM I SEE HE'S ABOUT READY TO.
10:37:24AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO USE MARIJUANA.
10:37:27AM THE LEGALIZATION OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA, YES, THERE ARE PEOPLE
10:37:34AM THAT ARE HELPED BY IT, PEOPLE ON CHEMO, PEOPLE WITH AUTISM.
10:37:39AM I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND EVEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MEDICAL
10:37:43AM MARIJUANA.
10:37:43AM THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.
10:37:44AM I WOULD BE A HYPOCRITE IF I DID FROM MY PAST.
10:37:49AM BUT OUR ZONING NEEDS TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY, AND
10:37:56AM THAT'S WHERE I WANT MY POINT TO BE HEARD.
10:38:00AM IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARIJUANA.
10:38:03AM IT'S JUST WHERE IT'S TO BE SOLD.
10:38:05AM THAT IS MY POINT.
10:38:06AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
10:38:10AM AGAIN, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT COULD USE THE
10:38:14AM EFFECTS OF MARIJUANA FOR THEIR ILLNESSES.
10:38:17AM I DON'T WANT TO BE CONFUSED ON THAT.
10:38:18AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:38:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE 100%, COUNCILMAN.
10:38:21AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:38:23AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:38:23AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:38:24AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:38:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:25AM IF YOU WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT YOUR MOTION WILL BE, I
10:38:33AM HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
10:38:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:38:38AM -- THE MOTION WILL BE LATER ON, THAT STAFF COME BACK AND
10:38:44AM LOOK AT OUR ZONING AND LOOK AT THE CRITERIA AND LOOK AT --
10:38:48AM FIND A SOLUTION IN REFERENCE TO THE ISSUES ARISING IN OUR
10:38:52AM COMMUNITY.
10:38:53AM WE'VE GOT TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD.
10:38:56AM IF THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT A CURRENT SITUATION, BUT
10:38:59AM GOING FORWARD LET'S FIND SOLUTIONS TO PUT ON THE BOOKS.
10:39:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:39:04AM OKAY.
10:39:07AM ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
10:39:10AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:39:10AM OKAY.
10:39:12AM BEING NONE, WE GO FORWARD TO COMMITTEE REPORTS CONSENT
10:39:15AM AGENDA.
10:39:15AM ITEM NUMBER 5, AN ORDINANCE.
10:39:20AM THERE IS NO NEED TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT OR STAFF ON THIS
10:39:22AM SINCE THIS IS A FIRST READING.
10:39:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:39:29AM DO YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER 5?
10:39:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER E2019-8 CH 27, ORDINANCE BEING
10:39:43AM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:39:45AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
10:39:47AM DEFINITION OF HEIGHT, KENNELS, AND REVOCATION OR SUSPENSION
10:39:50AM OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA
10:39:53AM CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27 (ZONING AND LAND
10:39:56AM DEVELOPMENT); AMENDING SECTION 27-43, DEFINITIONS; AMENDING
10:40:02AM SECTION 27-282.25, KENNEL, SMALL; AMENDING SECTION
10:40:08AM 27-282.26, KENNEL, LARGE; AMENDING SECTION 27-318,
10:40:16AM EXPIRATION, SUSPENSION, AND REVOCATION OF APPROVALS FOR
10:40:19AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES; POSTING OF NOTICE FOR
10:40:22AM DISCONTINUANCE OF SALES; EVIDENCE OF RESUMPTION OF SALES;
10:40:27AM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:40:30AM THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
10:40:34AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:40:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:40:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:40:37AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:40:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:40:42AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:40:44AM OCTOBER 17th, 2019 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:40:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:49AM NEXT WE GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
10:40:51AM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:40:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:40:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AGENDA ITEMS 6 THROUGH 12.
10:40:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:40:59AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:41:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:41:01AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:41:02AM NEXT COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL.
10:41:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 13 THROUGH 21 -- TAKING
10:41:17AM OUT 20 THROUGH 19 AND 21.
10:41:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DID SOMETHING ON 20?
10:41:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:41:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I HAVE YOU DOING PARKS AND
10:41:39AM REC SINCE COUNCILMAN GUDES IS OUT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS
10:41:43AM OUT.
10:41:43AM YOU ARE THE ALTERNATE FOR PARKS AND REC.
10:41:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: 13 THROUGH 21 --
10:41:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE IT SEPARATELY BY THE COMMITTEE.
10:41:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST MOVE 13 THROUGH 17.
10:41:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE 13 THROUGH 17.
10:41:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:41:57AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:41:59AM ANY IN FAVOR?
10:42:00AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:01AM SIR, IF YOU COULD TAKE THE PUBLIC WORKS.
10:42:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CARLSON, IF
10:42:06AM YOU CAN, JUST HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 19
10:42:09AM SEPARATELY AND MOVE THE 18 THROUGH 21 PLEASE.
10:42:13AM >> MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM --
10:42:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A EMPLOYEES BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:42:19AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:42:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:22AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE 18, 20, 21.
10:42:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:42:31AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:42:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:33AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:34AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:42:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:36AM MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 26.
10:42:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:42:40AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:42:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:42:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:43AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN WE'LL SEPARATE ITEM 28 FOR YOU.
10:42:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: ITEMS NUMBER 27 AND 29 THROUGH 44.
10:42:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:42:57AM A SECOND BY WHOM?
10:43:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH A SUBSTITUTE ON 41.
10:43:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE 40 WAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY MOVED.
10:43:08AM NO, IT WAS NOT.
10:43:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:43:10AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:43:13AM WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 28.
10:43:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 28.
10:43:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:43:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:20AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:22AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:43:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: NAY.
10:43:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, TRANSPORTATION.
10:43:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:43:33AM I MOVE ITEMS 45 THROUGH 55.
10:43:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:37AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:43:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:43:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEMS 56 AND 57, I'D LIKE TO SET THE
10:43:47AM FIRST ONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OCTOBER 3rd, 2019 AT
10:43:51AM 10:30 A.M. AND THEN OCTOBER 17, 2019, 9:30 A.M.
10:43:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A
10:43:59AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:01AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:44:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 57, I'D LIKE TO SET THAT HEARING
10:44:06AM FOR REVIEW FOR NOVEMBER 21st, 2019 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:44:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:44:12AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:14AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:44:14AM OKAY.
10:44:16AM NOW WE MOVE ON WARD TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND
10:44:19AM QUASI-JUDICIALS.
10:44:20AM IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO TESTIFY OR SPEAK TODAY ON ANY
10:44:24AM QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, I ASK, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO,
10:44:27AM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE PREPARED TO BE
10:44:30AM SWORN IN.
10:44:32AM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
10:44:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE TO OPEN 58 THROUGH 61.
10:44:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:56AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:44:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:59AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:45:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SINCE IT'S PAST 10:30, MR. CHAIRMAN, I
10:45:04AM TAKE THE PRIVILEGE OF OPENING 62 THROUGH 68.
10:45:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:13AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:45:17AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:45:20AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:45:21AM LaCHONE DOCK, PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
10:45:23AM COORDINATION.
10:45:24AM ITEM NUMBER 58 IS REZ 19-47.
10:45:27AM THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND
10:45:30AM READING.
10:45:30AM I NEED TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER DATE.
10:45:34AM THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CHANGES REQUIRED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE
10:45:38AM PLAN.
10:45:38AM THE APPLICANT DID NOT SUBMIT THEM WITHIN THE REQUIRED TIME
10:45:41AM FRAME.
10:45:42AM WE'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 3rd PUBLIC
10:45:44AM HEARING, IF POSSIBLE.
10:45:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:45:46AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE
10:45:49AM ONLY ON ITEM NUMBER 58?
10:45:50AM OKAY.
10:45:53AM BEING NONE -- MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
10:46:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM
10:46:04AM NUMBER 58 TO OCTOBER 3rd, 2019, TIME AT 9:30 A.M.
10:46:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:46:12AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:46:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:46:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:46:16AM GO AHEAD.
10:46:17AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:46:19AM COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 59 IS AB2-19-17.
10:46:24AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING AND
10:46:26AM ADOPTION.
10:46:27AM REVISIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN
10:46:31AM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
10:46:32AM THOSE REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.
10:46:34AM THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND I AM
10:46:37AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:46:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:46:39AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:46:40AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 59?
10:46:43AM 59?
10:46:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS A GOOD YEAR.
10:46:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IT WAS.
10:46:52AM NO ONE IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 59.
10:47:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS TRYING TO GET YOU TO COME.
10:47:04AM >> MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA, 33602.
10:47:08AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:10AM I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, THE CRG RESTAURANT.
10:47:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:47:14AM OKAY.
10:47:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:47:16AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 59?
10:47:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:47:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
10:47:23AM MIRANDA.
10:47:24AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:47:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:47:27AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU, SIR, MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER 59?
10:47:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:47:31AM ITEM NUMBER 59 FILE NUMBER AB2-19-17, ORDINANCE BEING
10:47:36AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:47:38AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2) FOR
10:47:42AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SALES, RESTAURANT (CONSUMPTION ON
10:47:45AM PREMISES ONLY) AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
10:47:48AM REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON
10:47:51AM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 17004
10:47:55AM PALM POINTE DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
10:47:58AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3; PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
10:48:00AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED; REPEALING
10:48:04AM ORDINANCE NUMBER 2009-67; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:48:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:48:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:48:11AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:48:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S A ROLL CALL.
10:48:16AM SECOND READING.
10:48:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
10:48:27AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
10:48:30AM BEING ABSENT.
10:48:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:48:32AM WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 60.
10:48:37AM ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF ON ITEM 60?
10:48:45AM >>JULIE HARDY: JULIE HARDY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:48:47AM WE REQUEST COUNCIL APPROVE.
10:48:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:51AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:48:52AM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 60?
10:48:56AM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
10:48:58AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:00AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:02AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:49:02AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:49:03AM COUNCILMAN CITRO, CAN YOU PLEASE, SIR, TAKE THIS VERY NICE
10:49:07AM ITEM 60.
10:49:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH PLEASURE, MR. CHAIR.
10:49:11AM ORDINANCE -- FILE NUMBER D2019-3, AN ORDINANCE BEING
10:49:18AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:49:20AM AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA RENAMING AND DESIGNATING A
10:49:27AM PORTION OF USF MAPLE DRIVE WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN THE
10:49:30AM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA CAMPUS (USF) -- GO BULLS --
10:49:35AM LYING NORTH OF USF ALUMNI DRIVE, SOUTH OF EAST FLETCHER
10:49:39AM AVENUE, EAST OF BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD AND WEST OF 50th
10:49:42AM STREET WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
10:49:45AM FLORIDA, SO THAT IT WILL HEREAFTER BE KNOWN AS USF GENSHAFT
10:49:50AM DRIVE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:49:57AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:49:59AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:50:02AM >> SECOND READING.
10:50:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M OFF TODAY.
10:50:05AM EXCUSE ME.
10:50:10AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
10:50:12AM BEING ABSENT.
10:50:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS TO MS. JUDY GENSHAFT.
10:50:18AM THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR HER.
10:50:20AM I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE UNIVERSITY
10:50:22AM OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
10:50:23AM THANK YOU, JUDY.
10:50:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS AT THE -- MAYBE YOU ALL WERE, TOO -- I
10:50:28AM WAS AT THE BIG GALA WHERE THEY GAVE THIS TO HER.
10:50:33AM THIS IS A LADY WHO REALLY BUILT UP USF AND DID A LOT OF
10:50:36AM GREAT THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, LED IN LOTS OF WAYS.
10:50:39AM YOU ALL MAY KNOW, SHE GAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY BACK TO
10:50:43AM USF TO FUND THE HONOR SCHOOL.
10:50:45AM IT WAS WAY MORE THAN SHE EARNED IN HER SALARY THE WHOLE TIME
10:50:50AM SHE WAS THERE.
10:50:51AM SHE AND HER FAMILY GAVE THAT.
10:50:54AM THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT COULD WE GIVE SOMEBODY
10:50:57AM WHO KIND OF HAS EVERYTHING.
10:50:58AM THEY GAVE THIS TO HER.
10:50:59AM IT IS A SMALL HONOR FOR SOMEONE WHO DID A LOT OF GREAT
10:51:02AM THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
10:51:03AM THANK YOU, DR. GENSHAFT.
10:51:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE 110%.
10:51:08AM THIS IS A WOMAN THAT HAS REALLY LED AN ACADEMIC AND
10:51:13AM REVOLUTION OVER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE I
10:51:15AM GRADUATED FROM IN 2000, 19 YEARS AGO.
10:51:20AM TREMENDOUS WOMAN AND TREMENDOUS LEADER, AND THIS IS A
10:51:23AM WONDERFUL STEP TO COMMEMORATE HER LEADERSHIP.
10:51:25AM I AGREE 110%.
10:51:27AM NEXT, WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 61.
10:51:32AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, PLANNING DESIGN AND
10:51:34AM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:51:36AM ITEM 61 IS REZ 19-52.
10:51:39AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING.
10:51:41AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:51:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:51:47AM ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 61?
10:51:49AM NO ONE HERE FOR 61.
10:52:00AM ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 61?
10:52:03AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:08AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:52:10AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:52:11AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:52:11AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, CAN YOU, SIR, READ ITEM 61?
10:52:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:52:17AM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:52:19AM ADOPTION.
10:52:19AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:52:21AM 1502 AND 1508 EAST 17th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:52:26AM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
10:52:29AM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL,
10:52:34AM SINGLE-FAMILY) TO CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL).
10:52:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:52:41AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:43AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:52:45AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
10:52:47AM BEING ABSENT.
10:52:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE MOVE TO ITEM 62.
10:52:58AM >> MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING. THERE ARE
10:53:04AM TWO LITTLE AREAS ON TYLER THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE.
10:53:11AM THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF TYLER IN TAMPA.
10:53:15AM YOU SEE THE LITTLE AREA.
10:53:19AM THEY ARE GOING TO INSTALL THESE PEDESTRIAN BULB-OUTS.
10:53:23AM THESE ARE FOR PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, AND ALSO MAKES THE
10:53:27AM INTERSECTION CLOSER TOGETHER.
10:53:29AM THE PERSON THAT'S HERE AT THE HEAD RAMP, THEY'LL HAVE LESS
10:53:36AM DISTANCE TO CROSS THE ROAD.
10:53:37AM ACTUALLY, TRANSPORTATION HAS FUTURE PROJECTS TO ACTUALLY DO
10:53:41AM A LOT OF THOSE DOWNTOWN.
10:53:43AM AS YOU KNOW, F.D.O.T. DID SOME ALONG JACKSON AND KENNEDY NOT
10:53:47AM TOO LONG AGO.
10:53:49AM DID ALL THE RAMPS.
10:53:50AM THIS ONE ALSO HAS A SECOND PIECE ON HARRISON STREET.
10:53:56AM HARRISON IS A BRICK STREET BUT DOESN'T REALLY GO ANYWHERE.
10:53:59AM IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO FRANKLIN.
10:54:02AM THERE ARE BRICKS THERE, AND WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO EVENTUALLY
10:54:08AM CONNECT TAMPA TO FRANKLIN, BUT IT'S NOT -- THIS IS NO WHAT
10:54:13AM IT'S ASKING.
10:54:15AM JUST THIS LITTLE AREA THEY ARE GOING TO REMOVE TO PUT IN A
10:54:18AM DRIVEWAY.
10:54:19AM THE PETITIONER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:54:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:54:22AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:54:32AM >> ALMOST GOOD AFTERNOON.
10:54:34AM MARILYN HEALY FROM AKERMAN REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER.
10:54:37AM SO TODAY, WE HAVE THIS REQUEST -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
10:54:56AM PIECE, ACTUALLY, POINT OF ORDER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:54:59AM CAN I TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THEM AT ONCE EVEN THOUGH SEPARATE
10:55:03AM VOTES?
10:55:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
10:55:04AM >> WE ARE PUTTING -- IT'S AT 102 TYLER AND THEN THE DOMINO'S
10:55:11AM PIZZA PLACE, WE ARE GOING TO DO TEMPORARY PARKING IN THAT
10:55:18AM AREA DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE TOWER THAT'S GOING ON
10:55:21AM IN THE OTHER PART.
10:55:22AM AS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, THIS SUMMER,
10:55:26AM THE CITY APPROVED A 23 STORY UNIT, 188-UNIT MULTIFAMILY
10:55:33AM STUDENT HOUSING TOWER.
10:55:35AM THERE'S A BIG DEFICIT IN STUDENT HOUSING IN THE DOWNTOWN
10:55:40AM AREA.
10:55:41AM AND THEY ARE PREPARING TO PUT THIS TOWER UP AND SOLVE THAT
10:55:45AM DEFICIT, HOPEFULLY.
10:55:47AM SO THE DDC APPROVAL AND THE RELATED CITY REQUIREMENTS ARE
10:55:51AM DERIVATIVE FROM THAT CITY CENTER AND VISION MASTER PLAN THAT
10:55:55AM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WHERE YOU HAVE WALKABILITY,
10:55:58AM LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND
10:56:01AM OTHER THINGS THAT HELP TRANSITION TIMES AND PROVIDE A LOT OF
10:56:07AM SAFETY ASPECTS, WHICH YOU'RE DOING NOT ONLY HERE BUT ALL THE
10:56:11AM WAY DOWN THAT CORRIDOR WITH THE RELATED DEVELOPMENTS THAT
10:56:13AM ARE COMING ON PAST THEM.
10:56:17AM SO IN THIS CASE, CERTAIN PORTIONS OF TYLER STREET AND
10:56:20AM HARRISON STREETS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
10:56:23AM WE DID AN EXHIBIT --
10:56:36AM WE ARE TAKING OUT -- FROM THE DOMINO'S PARCEL, WE ARE
10:56:40AM REMOVING 133 SQUARE FEET OF THE BRICK AND ANOTHER 15 OVER IN
10:56:46AM THE OTHER AREA, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, FOR A TOTAL OF 148
10:56:54AM SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A NET REMOVAL OF 8.95% OF THE
10:56:59AM VITRIFIED BRICK.
10:57:02AM AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE ARE REALIGNING PART OF
10:57:06AM HARRISON SO THAT THAT WILL GO STRAIGHTER AND FIT INTO THAT
10:57:09AM GRID WHEN IT FINALLY CONNECTS TO FRANKLIN STREET.
10:57:12AM AND WE ARE REMOVING APPROXIMATELY 1,564 SQUARE FEET OF THE
10:57:23AM BRICK, AND WE ARE REPLACING AN ADDITIONAL 256 SQUARE FEET
10:57:29AM WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A 4.06 ADDITION TO THE BRICK.
10:57:33AM SO, OBVIOUSLY, THESE ENHANCEMENTS ARE WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE
10:57:36AM CITY CODE AND THE DDR AND THE MASTER PLAN AND EVERYTHING AS
10:57:39AM THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH ITS DEVELOPMENT.
10:57:43AM WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TODAY ON THIS.
10:57:45AM OUR ENGINEER, SCOTT GILNER FROM KIMLEY-HORN TO ANSWER ANY
10:57:52AM SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:57:54AM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY -- AND I AM GOING TO PUT THIS ON
10:57:57AM THERE RIGHT -- THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN IT
10:58:00AM GETS REPLACED.
10:58:02AM YOU'LL SEE THE BLUE AREA HERE IS WHERE THAT REPLACEMENT IS
10:58:07AM COMING IN ON THE TYLER STREET SIDE.
10:58:09AM THERE WILL BE TWO PARKING SPACES THERE AND THEN ALSO
10:58:12AM REPLACING SOME ON HERE.
10:58:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:58:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WOULD BE REMOVING ONE OF THE STREET
10:58:28AM SPACES IN FRONT OF THE MUSIC BUILDING NEXT TO THE PARKING
10:58:31AM SPACE, RIGHT?
10:58:32AM >> YES, SIR.
10:58:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S JUST ONE SPACE COMING OUT.
10:58:37AM >> ONE SPACE.
10:58:38AM THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING.
10:58:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. HEALY, I'M SORRY.
10:58:50AM BUT STAFF MADE ONLY PRESENTATION ON ONE.
10:58:53AM I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE BRINGING THE BIG PICTURE.
10:58:55AM I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHETHER THIS APPLIES TO THIS HEARING,
10:58:58AM NUMBER 62 OR NUMBER 63.
10:59:02AM >> WELL, SAID WE COULD ADDRESS THEM TOGETHER.
10:59:04AM I WOULD SAY IT'S BASICALLY THE DOMINO'S PIECE, WHICH IS THE
10:59:10AM 3 --
10:59:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: BY ALLOWING YOU TO DO BOTH, WE DIDN'T HAVE
10:59:16AM STAFF DO THE PRESENTATION --
10:59:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND COUNCIL ONLY CALLED UP 62.
10:59:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S TAILOR OUR REMARKS TO 62.
10:59:31AM THAT'S MY OMISSION.
10:59:32AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:59:33AM THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
10:59:42AM >> SO EVERYTHING I SAID STILL APPLIES, AND THIS IS RELATED
10:59:46AM TO THE DOMINO'S PIECE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE TEMPORARY
10:59:50AM PARKING IN THERE FOR THE MARRIOTT HOTEL AS OUR CONSTRUCTION
10:59:54AM IS GOING UP.
10:59:56AM THESE TWO SPACES AND THIS ONE WILL GO WHERE THE LITTLE WHITE
11:00:00AM CAR IS.
11:00:01AM THE BULB-OUT FOR THE ADA.
11:00:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE
11:00:11AM SPACES IN ORDER TO -- IT'S A PARKING LOT.
11:00:12AM YOU HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER SPACES, BUT WHY THOSE THAT ARE --
11:00:13AM >> WE DIDN'T REQUEST THAT.
11:00:15AM THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE DDR.
11:00:17AM THAT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR STAFF.
11:00:31AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION.
11:00:33AM THE BULB-OUT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE DDR.
11:00:37AM IF YOU SEE THIS BOX RIGHT HERE, WHERE THE CURRENT DOMINO'S
11:00:43AM IS LOCATED.
11:00:44AM LITTLE MESSY.
11:00:45AM THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
11:00:47AM WHEN THEY DID THAT AND THEY MADE THE DRIVEWAY, THEY MADE
11:00:50AM THIS DRIVEWAY NOW TO STANDARD.
11:00:52AM WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY HAD TO MOVE IT OVER.
11:01:02AM WHEN THEY WERE MAKING THE DRIVEWAY, IF YOU SEE THIS AREA,
11:01:06AM GOING TO TAKE THIS LINE, IF YOU SEE THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
11:01:09AM , THIS IS KIND OF LIKE RIGHT NOW, KIND OF LIKE AN OPEN AREA,
11:01:16AM IT'S RIGHT HERE.
11:01:17AM AND THERE'S NO STRIPING OR ANYTHING.
11:01:20AM IT'S KIND OF LIKE A WIDE SPACE.
11:01:21AM TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BULB IT OUT WITH RAISED
11:01:26AM CURBING AND SIDEWALK, THIS HELPS TO MAKE THIS A SHORTER
11:01:30AM DISTANCE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS.
11:01:32AM THE CITY IS ALREADY GOING TO BE DOING THIS WORK IN A FEW
11:01:35AM YEARS.
11:01:35AM A LOT OF BULB-OUTS HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN TO MAKE IT CLOSER.
11:01:39AM SO THE PEDESTRIAN WHO'S CROSSING THE STREET HAS LESS AMOUNT
11:01:43AM OF TIME TO BE IN AN OPEN AREA AND AT RISK OF BEING HURT.
11:01:47AM WHEN THEY MOVED THIS OVER, THEY TOOK OUT THIS SPACE.
11:01:50AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WERE TWO SPACES HERE AND KIND OF LIKE
11:01:53AM AN OPEN SPACE, AND THEN TWO SPACES HERE.
11:01:55AM WE'RE COMING IN.
11:01:57AM THE CITY HAS A PROJECT TO REDO HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
11:02:01AM WHEN THEY DO THAT, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS SPACE
11:02:06AM AND THIS ACTUALLY CONVERTED TO A SPACE AND THERE ACTUALLY
11:02:09AM MIGHT BE EXTRA ROOM.
11:02:10AM WE MAY RESTRIPE THIS WHOLE AREA TO HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR
11:02:14AM SPACES.
11:02:15AM WE CAN ACTUALLY FIT FOUR THERE.
11:02:16AM REALLY, WE'RE NOT LOSING A SPACE.
11:02:18AM WE JUST NEED TO RECONFIGURE IT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIME --
11:02:24AM HERMAN MASSEY PARK HAS PLANS RIGHT NOW.
11:02:26AM THEY'LL HAVE TO RESTRIPE THIS AND MAKE THE FOUR SPACES BACK.
11:02:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:02:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHERE THE CROSSWALK IS AT CLOSEST TO --
11:02:38AM WELL, WHERE THE EXISTING CROSSWALK IS AT, WHY HAVE THE
11:02:43AM DESIGN WHERE YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THAT ONE SPACE ANYWAY?
11:02:47AM THE CROSSWALK IS HERE.
11:02:49AM YOU CAN DESIGN IT WHERE IT'S CLOSEST TO, WHAT IS IT, ASHLEY
11:02:53AM DRIVE AT THAT POINT?
11:02:55AM TAMPA STREET.
11:02:57AM TAMPA STREET.
11:02:58AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THIS DRIVEWAY DOES NOT HAVE FLARES.
11:03:05AM DOES NOT MEET STANDARD.
11:03:06AM THEY HAD TO SHIFT IT TO THE EAST.
11:03:08AM WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY MADE THIS AREA MORE PALATABLE TO
11:03:13AM NOW PEDESTRIANS CAN SAFELY BE IN THIS AREA, RAISED CURB.
11:03:17AM THIS ONE.
11:03:17AM THAT'S WHY I HAD TO SHIFT OVER.
11:03:20AM WHERE THIS BUILDING IS NOW, THEY HAD TO SHIFT AND MAKE THE
11:03:24AM DRIVEWAY MEET STANDARD.
11:03:26AM BEFORE IT WAS A DROP CURB.
11:03:28AM DIDN'T HAVE FLARES.
11:03:34AM ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE JUST PUSHING THEM OVER.
11:03:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER? THANK
11:03:41AM YOU.
11:03:41AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:03:42AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE -- THEY
11:03:46AM HAVE MORE EXTRA SPACE THAN WE NEED THERE.
11:03:49AM WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY, WE COULD DESIGN THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
11:03:52AM WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE MORE AVAILABILITY FOR LOADING SPACE
11:03:55AM MAYBE THERE.
11:03:56AM WE CAN LOOK AT LOADING SPACE.
11:03:58AM WE CAN LOOK AT 15-MINUTE UBER SPACES.
11:04:01AM TRANSPORTATION IS LOOKING AT THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN OF ALL THESE
11:04:04AM DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH TO DESIGNATE SPACES TO BE MORE
11:04:07AM PALATABLE TO EACH BLOCK AND WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT CAN BE
11:04:11AM SERVICED THERE.
11:04:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:13AM THANKS.
11:04:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:04:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE BRICK HAS TO
11:04:20AM BE REMOVED?
11:04:21AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
11:04:21AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: TO MAKE THESE BULB-OUTS HERE, WHICH IS
11:04:27AM RAISED CURB AND A SIDEWALK, RAISED CURB, CONCRETE, WE'RE
11:04:31AM GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT THESE LITTLE SECTIONS RIGHT HERE.
11:04:34AM TO MAKE IT RAISED CURB WITH CONCRETE SO BULB-OUT, PEDESTRIAN
11:04:42AM AREAS.
11:04:42AM YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE BRICK OUT HERE BECAUSE TYLER IS A BRICK
11:04:46AM STREET.
11:04:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S JUST MAKING THE SIDEWALK WIDER IN THE
11:04:51AM AREA.
11:04:51AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES, CORRECT.
11:04:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER QUESTION, AND COUNCILMAN GUDES I
11:04:55AM THINK ALLUDED TO THIS, TOO.
11:04:57AM IN MY DISTRICT, THEY ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT BRICKS BEING
11:05:00AM LOST.
11:05:00AM I THINK YEARS AGO THE CITY SOLD THEM TO WINTER PARK.
11:05:03AM CAN THESE BRICKS BE SALVAGED AND PUT IN STORAGE TO BE USED
11:05:09AM SOMEWHERE ELSE?
11:05:09AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
11:05:11AM THE RESOLUTION WE HAVE REQUIRES TO PALLETIZE THEM AND
11:05:14AM DELIVER THEM BACK TO THE CITY.
11:05:15AM WE STORE THEM ON 26th AVENUE.
11:05:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS A LAW.
11:05:23AM WAY BACK, 20 YEARS AGO.
11:05:26AM SECONDLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE IS SOMETHING YOU'VE
11:05:28AM ALREADY DONE IN DOWNTOWN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:05:30AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES, ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
11:05:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JACKSON AND FLORIDA.
11:05:35AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: -- SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, MR. MIRANDA WAS
11:05:39AM HERE AND THEY WERE DOING THE BULB-OUTS HERE.
11:05:41AM D.O.T. DID THEM.
11:05:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:05:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:52AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YOU'RE WELCOME.
11:05:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: PETITIONER, ANYTHING ELSE?
11:05:59AM >> NO, SIR.
11:05:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:06:00AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:06:01AM NOW WE MOVE ONWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:06:03AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME
11:06:07AM FORWARD.
11:06:08AM JUST SO WE KNOW, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND SO WE KNOW HOW
11:06:11AM MANY FOLKS ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM?
11:06:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. De MAYO DID PRESENT
11:06:16AM ME WITH A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
11:06:19AM E. MICHAEL ISAAC, ARE YOU HERE?
11:06:22AM YOU'RE GIVING UP YOUR TIME TO SPEAK TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE
11:06:25AM EXTRA MINUTE TO MR. De MAYO, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:06:29AM >> YES.
11:06:30AM IF THERE'S ANY TIME LEFT OVER.
11:06:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, UNFORTUNATELY.
11:06:36AM IF YOU AGREE TO GIVE HIM YOUR EXTRA MINUTE, YOU LOSE YOUR
11:06:40AM OPPORTUNITY FOR THREE.
11:06:40AM WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE?
11:06:44AM >> I'LL GIVE IT TO MR. De MAYO.
11:06:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:06:48AM LIVINGSTON, YOU'RE PRESENT.
11:06:51AM YOU WAIVE YOUR TIME?
11:06:52AM >> I DO.
11:06:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:06:53AM JEREMY MOORE.
11:06:54AM THE SAME.
11:06:56AM >> SAME.
11:06:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:06:56AM MALKA ISAAC.
11:06:59AM THANK YOU, YOU WAIVE YOUR TIME AS WELL?
11:07:01AM THANK YOU.
11:07:02AM FOUR ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
11:07:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:07:14AM MY NAME IS VICTOR DEMAIO.
11:07:16AM DID I GET SEVEN MINUTES?
11:07:18AM IS THAT WHAT IT TOTALS OUT TO?
11:07:20AM FOUR TIMES TWO -- I SHOULD GET THREE MINUTES PLUS --
11:07:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TOTAL OF SEVEN.
11:07:29AM >> OKAY.
11:07:30AM I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO FOR EACH.
11:07:31AM VICTOR DEMAIO, 4925 INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY, SUITE 195.
11:07:40AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING
11:07:44AM NEXT TO WHERE THIS BULB-OUT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT,
11:07:50AM IS TAKING PLACE.
11:07:51AM THEY ARE ASKING THE CITY TO REMOVE THE BRICKS.
11:07:53AM I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING.
11:07:59AM HER SON MICHAEL IS HERE.
11:07:59AM AND WE HAVE THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.
11:08:02AM THIS IS HISTORIC -- WELL, IT WAS, EXCEPT ONE THING WE DO
11:08:08AM REALLY GOOD IN TAMPA IS TEAR DOWN HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND
11:08:11AM MAKING PARKING LOTS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
11:08:14AM IF YOU TAKE THE MAAS BROTHERS BUILDING, WHICH IS NOW A
11:08:17AM PARKING LOT AND ALL THE OTHER PARKING LOTS WE HAVE IN THE
11:08:20AM CITY OF TAMPA, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS WHAT WE DO BEST HERE
11:08:23AM IN TAMPA, WHICH IS SAD BECAUSE IN OTHER CITIES LIKE BOSTON,
11:08:28AM MEMPHIS, NEW ORLEANS AND SO FORTH, THEY DO A LOT MORE EFFORT
11:08:33AM IN PRESERVING HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND MAKE SURE
11:08:36AM THAT PART OF THE HISTORY AND FABRIC AND CULTURE OF THE CITY
11:08:38AM IS MAINTAINED.
11:08:39AM MALKA OWNS THE BUILDING NEXT TO WHERE THEY TORE DOWN THE OLD
11:08:43AM GULF STATION, AS YOU SEE THERE.
11:08:46AM THIS IS A PICTURE FROM 1935.
11:08:49AM THIS IS ACTUALLY MALKA'S BUILDING, WHICH IS THE ONLY
11:08:52AM BUILDING LEFT ON ZACK STREET WHICH IS LEFT THAT'S HISTORIC.
11:08:59AM I SPOKE TO RON VILA THIS MORNING ABOUT SEEKING HISTORIC
11:09:02AM STATUS OF THE THREE-STORY BUILDING, ORIGINALLY CALLED THE
11:09:06AM ALDEN HOTEL.
11:09:07AM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FIRST FLOOR, IT WAS ALSO A BAKERY
11:09:11AM AND A BALCONY WHICH WE'RE CONSIDERING RESTORING AS WELL.
11:09:14AM THAT IS THE BUILDING, AS YOU SEE IS STILL THERE.
11:09:18AM IT WAS BUILT IN 1911 AND THIS PICTURE IS FROM 1921.
11:09:22AM YOU SEE THE HISTORIC ALDEN HOTEL AND DOWNSTAIRS YOU SEE THE
11:09:26AM DELIVERY TRUCKS.
11:09:27AM THERE'S STILL THE OVEN FOR THE BAKERY IN THE BUILDING THAT
11:09:31AM WE'RE LOOKING TO KEEP.
11:09:33AM I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OTHER PICTURES OF THE BUILDING AS IT IS
11:09:38AM NOW.
11:09:38AM HERE'S A PICTURE FROM ONE SIDE.
11:09:41AM THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IS ACTUALLY INTRUDING INTO OUR
11:09:45AM PROPERTY PROBABLY A THIRD OF THE WAY IN.
11:09:47AM WE CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THE SIDE OF OUR BUILDING ON THE OTHER
11:09:49AM SIDE BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HAS LOCKED US OUT.
11:09:53AM THAT'S ONE SIDE.
11:09:55AM YOU ALSO SEE PART OF -- FROM THE ORIGINAL 1911 PORCH ON THE
11:10:02AM SIDE, WE'RE CONSIDERING WRAPPING IT AROUND TO CONTINUE ON
11:10:06AM WITH THAT.
11:10:08AM HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE.
11:10:09AM YOU ALSO SEE A STREET CUTOUT NOW, WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR
11:10:15AM LOADING.
11:10:15AM IF WE DO CONSTRUCTION ON THIS BUILDING TO REMODEL AND REHAB
11:10:18AM IT AND RESTORE TO ITS ORIGINAL, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A
11:10:22AM LOADING ZONE.
11:10:22AM THE MAIN REASON I GOT INVOLVED WITH THIS SEVERAL DAYS AGO
11:10:26AM WITH MALKA, THAT BULB-OUT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT,
11:10:34AM BUTT-OUT, WHICH I CALL IT, I DRIVE DOWN MAIN STREET TO
11:10:37AM COLUMBUS DRIVE, THERE ARE 20 BUTT-OUTS.
11:10:41AM ALL THEY ARE ARE WEED COLLECTORS.
11:10:44AM THEY COLLECT WEEDS AND I HAVE TO SEE THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
11:10:49AM THIS BUTT-OUT THING OR BULB-OUT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
11:10:53AM IT, CAN BE PAINTED.
11:10:55AM WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO TODAY, HERE IS A PICTURE FROM
11:10:58AM OVERHEAD AND SHOWING THE GULF STATION THAT'S GONE AWAY, THE
11:11:02AM BUILDING AS IT IS NOW.
11:11:04AM WE'RE ALSO, BY THE WAY, SPEAKING TO A RESTAURANTEUR AS YOU
11:11:10AM CAN SEE FROM THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE ARE PLANS, JUST
11:11:12AM YESTERDAY, THE CITY HAD A STAFF MEETING.
11:11:15AM THEY DO HAVE A PROPOSAL TO REDO THE HERMAN MASSEY PARK WITH
11:11:18AM TABLES AND CHAIRS.
11:11:19AM WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE CHAIRS SINCE THE CHAIRS
11:11:22AM DISAPPEARED.
11:11:23AM AT LEAST FOR THIS BUILDING, IF THE RESTAURANT GOES THERE,
11:11:25AM WE'RE TALKING A RESTAURANT CHAIR WOULD TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE
11:11:28AM BOTTOM FLOOR AND MAYBE A ROOFTOP DECK ON THE TOP OF THIS
11:11:31AM BUILDING.
11:11:32AM THOSE PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH FROM INSIDE THE RESTAURANT AND
11:11:34AM GO AND SIT IN THE PARK AND ENJOY THE AMENITY THAT THE CITY
11:11:38AM WILL OFFER THE PEOPLE LIVING DOWN THERE.
11:11:39AM HERE'S ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEY.
11:11:44AM NOW, MALKA OWNS FIVE FEET INTO THIS ALLEY.
11:11:47AM THIS WAS ORIGINALLY AN ALLEY.
11:11:50AM VACATED SOME TIME AGO.
11:11:51AM I HAVEN'T GOT THE RECORDS ON IT.
11:11:53AM OLD HISTORIC DOOR ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT CAN BE
11:11:57AM USED AS ENTRANCE AND EXIT.
11:11:59AM THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY BY OUR
11:12:03AM DRONE.
11:12:03AM ALL THIS TRASH WE'VE BEEN CITED FOR AND WE CAN'T GET INTO
11:12:07AM THE BACK BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FROM THEIR SIDE
11:12:11AM HAS DUMPED ALL THIS TRASH ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND
11:12:14AM PREVENTED US FROM BEING ABLE TO SERVICE IT.
11:12:17AM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEY'VE ALREADY REMOVED THE BRICK
11:12:21AM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY
11:12:23AM GRANTED PERMISSION.
11:12:24AM THE BRICKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SIDEWALK ON
11:12:28AM THAT SIDE.
11:12:29AM I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:12:31AM FRANKLY, THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES TO THIS PARKING LOT --
11:12:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, MR. De MAYO --
11:12:53AM >> ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT OBJECTING, THEY HAVE TWO ENTRANCES, ONE
11:12:57AM IS COMING OFF OF HARRISON AND ONE IS COMING OFF OF TYLER
11:13:00AM STREET.
11:13:00AM WE HAVE NO OBJECTION WITH THE REAR ENTRANCE.
11:13:03AM THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ENTRANCE GOING.
11:13:05AM WE'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO REJECT THE BRICK SITUATION SO WE CAN
11:13:10AM -- AS YOU SAY, MALKA'S MAIN CONCERN IS LOSING THE ONE
11:13:14AM PARKING SPOT IN THE FRONT THAT SHE'S HAD -- WHICH WAS
11:13:17AM CUTRO'S MUSIC FOR MANY YEARS.
11:13:20AM WE HAVEN'T SETTLED THE ISSUE OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE
11:13:23AM PARKING SPOT HERE OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE LOADING ZONE.
11:13:26AM WE HAVE ALL THOSE OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
11:13:27AM I'M ASKING TO YOU REJECT THE BRICK REMOVAL FOR TYLER STREET.
11:13:32AM THEY CAN STRIPE IT IN THE MEANTIME UNTIL WE SETTLE THE
11:13:34AM ISSUES.
11:13:35AM WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH TRAFFIC,
11:13:38AM ZONING, WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL AND SEE WHAT KIND OF
11:13:41AM COMPROMISE WE CAN WORK OUT FOR THIS LOST PARKING SPOT WHICH
11:13:46AM AGAIN ONLY TWO IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS SHE'S LOSING THE
11:13:50AM ONE AND HOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOAD AND UNLOAD, IF WE DO A
11:13:53AM RESTAURANT, HOW THE DELIVERY PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND OUT, HOW
11:13:56AM WE CAN DO THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
11:14:00AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU HERE TODAY TO DO, IF YOU WOULD
11:14:04AM LISTEN TO US OR MAYBE GRANT A CONTINUANCE.
11:14:07AM I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER IS YOUR FAVOR.
11:14:12AM WE'RE ASKING FOR TO PUT THE BRICKS ON THE TWO BULB-OUTS SO
11:14:16AM WE CAN SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO
11:14:19AM WITH THIS ENTIRE PARK AND ENTIRE STREET AND ALL THE PARKING
11:14:23AM INVOLVED IN OUR BUILDING.
11:14:25AM LIKE I SAY, WE ARE THE ONLY HISTORIC BUILDING LEFT ON TYLER.
11:14:28AM THAT'S ALL WE HAVE LEFT.
11:14:29AM WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT INTO A NICE BUILDING THAT THE CITY
11:14:32AM AND THE PEOPLE WOULD BE PROUD OF.
11:14:34AM WE'RE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ASK US.
11:14:38AM WE'RE HERE AND AVAILABLE.
11:14:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:14:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK MS. HEALY A
11:14:43AM QUESTION NOW?
11:14:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
11:14:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THE CITY ASKED
11:14:49AM THE DEVELOPER TO DO THIS?
11:14:50AM DOES THE DEVELOPER WANT THE BULB-OUTS OR NOT?
11:14:53AM >> THAT'S PART OF THE CITY'S FORM-BASED CODE REQUIREMENTS.
11:14:56AM WE HAD A TRANSPORTATION DESIGN EXCEPTION REQUIRED BY THE
11:15:00AM CITY AS WELL.
11:15:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: STOP ME IF THIS GETS YOU IN LEGAL TROUBLE.
11:15:06AM DOES THE DEVELOPER CARE IF WE -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS
11:15:12AM BETWEEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY, NOT THE
11:15:15AM DEVELOPER, IS THAT RIGHT?
11:15:18AM >> I'M LISTENING TO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, I BELIEVE THE
11:15:21AM ANSWER IS YES TO THAT.
11:15:22AM I THINK THE ONE ISSUE, AT LEAST AS RELATED TO OUR BULB-OUT,
11:15:26AM HAS TO DO WITH THAT LOSS OF THE ONE PARKING SPACE.
11:15:31AM THE OTHER STUFF WITH THE ALLEY AND THEIR HISTORIC BUILDING
11:15:34AM DESIGNATION, THAT'S ALL OUTSIDE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL
11:15:38AM AS THIS APPLICATION.
11:15:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: ASK MR. DEMAIO ONE QUESTION.
11:15:48AM A STAFF PERSON SUGGESTED REPAINTING.
11:15:51AM >> AS YOU HEARD MELANIE, ONE KEY THING SHE SAID WAS
11:15:54AM BULB-OUT.
11:15:55AM IF YOU WANT TO PAINT THEM ON, YOU CAN PAINT -- IF YOU PUT
11:15:59AM THE CEMENT BULB-OUTS, THEN YOU NEED A JACKHAMMER TO REMOVE
11:16:03AM THEM.
11:16:03AM ONCE THEY ARE IN THEY ARE PERMANENT, JUST LIKE THE ONES ON
11:16:06AM HOWARD.
11:16:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THE MAIN ISSUE THAT YOUR CLIENT WAS A
11:16:10AM PARKING SPACE?
11:16:11AM >> OR A LOADING ZONE.
11:16:13AM THESE ARE ISSUES UP IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW.
11:16:15AM WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
11:16:16AM THE CITY HAS GOT THE PARK.
11:16:17AM THEY HAVE THEIR PARKING LOT AND WE HAVE OUR BUILDING.
11:16:20AM WE HAVEN'T SAT DOWN -- I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN FACE TO FACE
11:16:23AM WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED TO WORK EVERYTHING OUT.
11:16:25AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
11:16:26AM WE CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU GIVE THEM PERMISSION TODAY TO REMOVE
11:16:30AM THE BRICKS AND DO THE BULB-OUTS.
11:16:32AM THE BULB-OUTS CAN BE MADE OUT OF CEMENT OR PAINTED ON.
11:16:35AM IF YOU WANT TO DO IT LIKE MELANIE TOLD ME, THE BULB-OUT IS
11:16:39AM NICE MADE OUT OF CEMENT BUT THEY CAN PAINT THEM TEMPORARILY
11:16:42AM UNTIL WE RESOLVE ALL THE ISSUES.
11:16:44AM LIKE I SAY, THEY ALREADY HAVE AN INTEREST ON HARRISON.
11:16:48AM THEY HAVE AN INTEREST BACK AND FORTH TO GET IN AND OUT OF
11:16:50AM THE PARKING LOT OFF OF HARRISON.
11:16:52AM THEY DON'T EVEN NEED AN ENTRANCE OFF OF TYLER.
11:16:55AM FRANKLY, IF THEY WANT TO DO AN ENTRANCE OR EXIT ONLY, THEY
11:16:57AM CAN MOVE THE 20-FOOT ENTRANCE INTO A 10-FOOT ENTRANCE.
11:17:02AM THERE ARE OPTIONS WE CAN EXPLORE.
11:17:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:04AM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:17:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LEGAL WANTS TO STAND UP AND SAY SOMETHING.
11:17:09AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WANT TO QUICKLY REMIND THE COUNCIL, THE
11:17:12AM ISSUE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS SIMPLY WHETHER THEY ARE ALLOWED TO
11:17:14AM REMOVE THE BRICKS.
11:17:16AM SECTION 22.305 OF THE CODE LIMITS THE REVIEW.
11:17:22AM IT'S REALLY A CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF
11:17:25AM PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE TO REMOVE THEM.
11:17:29AM AND WHETHER THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO REMOVING IT.
11:17:32AM SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE CLEARLY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S
11:17:35AM BEING DISCUSSED NOW.
11:17:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
11:17:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. HEALY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU MADE A
11:17:45AM STATEMENT SAYING THIS IS ON CITY.
11:17:47AM CAN I HAVE STAFF REBUTTAL?
11:17:57AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THE BULB-OUTS ARE NOT A REQUIREMENT --
11:17:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: STATE YOUR NAME.
11:18:01AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION.
11:18:03AM IT'S NOT THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY.
11:18:06AM WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO STRIPE IT BECAUSE THAT'S EASIER TO
11:18:09AM DO AND QUICKER TO DO, BUT WE WERE EVENTUALLY GOING TO PUT IN
11:18:11AM BULB-OUTS.
11:18:12AM WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT IS SAFER.
11:18:15AM THEY ARE JUST GOING TO DO IT BEFORE WE WERE GOING TO DO IT.
11:18:18AM IN TIME, A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT
11:18:22AM ANYWAY.
11:18:22AM I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
11:18:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:18:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:18:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:18:27AM MELANIE, IN FACT, I ASKED THE CHAIRMAN TO BRING YOU UP.
11:18:32AM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS
11:18:35AM TAKEN THAT VIEW IN DOING DOWNTOWN STEP BY STEP
11:18:40AM CHRONOLOGICALLY.
11:18:42AM I IMAGINE THAT IS TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC AND PUBLIC
11:18:46AM SAFETY.
11:18:46AM BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL RAMPS GOING IN AND OUT, IT LOOKED LIKE
11:18:49AM A DRIVEWAY.
11:18:50AM COMPARE THAT TO WEST TAMPA, THAT WAS DONE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO
11:18:55AM OR SO BY MR. TURANCHIK IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP TO THE
11:18:59AM COUNCIL.
11:19:00AM I DIDN'T CARE FOR THEM THAT MUCH AND LOOKED LIKE HELL
11:19:03AM BECAUSE THE SIZE OF A BATTER'S BOX AND THEY DON'T DO
11:19:06AM ANYTHING.
11:19:07AM AND THEY ARE NOT KEPT.
11:19:08AM HE'S RIGHT.
11:19:09AM NOTHING BUT WEEDS THERE.
11:19:10AM THEY HAD PLANTS.
11:19:11AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT UNDER THE PLANTS, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH
11:19:14AM WATER TO SUSTAIN THE GROWTH OF THAT PLANT.
11:19:16AM YOU PUT THEM IN, TWO WEEKS LATER THEY WERE DEAD.
11:19:19AM BUT THAT'S HOW IT WAS.
11:19:21AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING, BUT THE COMPARISON ALTOGETHER
11:19:24AM DIFFERENT.
11:19:24AM THIS IS A SYNCHRONIZE PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS HAD FOR SOME
11:19:27AM TIME TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC.
11:19:31AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: CORRECT.
11:19:32AM TO SLOW IT DOWN AND HELP PEDESTRIANS HAVE A SHORTER DISTANCE
11:19:35AM ACROSS THE ROADWAY.
11:19:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THIS
11:19:39AM COUNCIL LOT, FLORIDA, HEADING NORTH, IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT,
11:19:43AM THEY WOULD BE COMING IN THAT TURNING LANE AND YOU WOULD HAVE
11:19:45AM COLLISIONS.
11:19:46AM THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IT FOR.
11:19:47AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:19:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME FOR SPEAKING IN SPANISH AND
11:19:53AM ENGLISH AT THE SAME TIME.
11:19:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:19:56AM ANYONE ELSE?
11:19:56AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:19:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOOKING AT THE FRAME THAT MR. DEMAIO
11:20:03AM PUT UP WITH REGARD TO THE BRICKS.
11:20:06AM IT LOOKS LIKE THE BRICKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN STACKED UP.
11:20:09AM MS. CALLOWAY.
11:20:12AM TO ME IT SEEMED LIKE IT'S ALREADY BEEN PREDETERMINED ON THE
11:20:15AM WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO VERSUS ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO GRANT
11:20:19AM OR DENY.
11:20:21AM I'M JUST WONDERING HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
11:20:23AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: HOW DID WHAT HAPPEN?
11:20:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FRAME THAT MR. DEMAIO PUT UP, THE
11:20:29AM BRICKS ALREADY REMOVED.
11:20:32AM STACKED UP, READY TO BE STORED.
11:20:34AM I'M CURIOUS.
11:20:35AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MAYBE THE PETITIONER CAN ANSWER THAT
11:20:37AM QUESTION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE CITY CAN'T ANSWER THE
11:20:41AM QUESTION.
11:20:42AM WE TOLD THE PETITIONER NOT TO TOUCH THEM.
11:20:44AM THIS REQUIRES A 30-DAY NOTICE.
11:20:46AM THIS HEARING REQUIRES A 30-DAY NOTICE OR I COULD HAVE PUT IT
11:20:49AM ON THE SCHEDULE A FEW WEEKS AGO.
11:20:51AM 30-DAY NOTICE BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS NEEDED TO BE NOTICED.
11:20:55AM TOLD THEM NOT TO DO IT.
11:20:57AM THEY NEEDED TO SUBMIT A RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT TO REMOVE THEM.
11:21:02AM WE DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REMOVE, THEY HAVE TO DO SOME UTILITY
11:21:06AM WORK UNDERNEATH AND PUT BACK.
11:21:08AM PUT IT BACK EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS.
11:21:09AM WE DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO THAT, BUT THEY NEEDED TO GET A
11:21:12AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT TO DO THAT.
11:21:13AM MAYBE THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT HAPPENED, AS I DON'T
11:21:17AM KNOW.
11:21:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH.
11:21:19AM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM.
11:21:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: MS. HEALY.
11:21:21AM AFTER THIS, WE'LL GO BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:21:24AM WE CAN'T FORGET, WE'RE IN PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW.
11:21:26AM >> ON THE BRICK REMOVAL, OUR CONTRACTOR, MOSS CONSTRUCTION,
11:21:31AM REMOVED THAT, CLEANED THEM UP, PUT THEM ON THE PALLETS FOR
11:21:35AM THE STORMWATER UTILITY CONNECTION.
11:21:38AM SOME OF THOSE ARE GOING TO GO BACK.
11:21:41AM HOWEVER, WE STOPPED EVERYTHING WHEN THEY REALIZED THEY HAD
11:21:44AM TO COME BACK IN AND AMEND THEIR RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT.
11:21:48AM IT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND WILL STAY THERE UNTIL WE GET
11:21:52AM YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD TO TAKE ANYTHING OUT.
11:21:56AM WE WERE TALKING WHILE YOU WERE TALKING BEFORE AND WE COULD
11:22:08AM BASICALLY PAINT THAT AREA --
11:22:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S SAVE THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE BRICKS ISSUE
11:22:12AM FOR REBUTTAL, IF WE MAY MA'AM, AND WE'LL COME BACK, JUST TO
11:22:16AM FINISH UP PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:22:17AM WE APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
11:22:19AM NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHO IS NEXT?
11:22:21AM IF ANYONE.
11:22:23AM I'LL BE DARNED.
11:22:25AM OKAY.
11:22:26AM WELL, COME ON BACK.
11:22:31AM >> WE WOULD BE FINE AS LONG AS THE CITY IS FINE, AND WE'LL
11:22:34AM MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TODAY THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH US JUST
11:22:39AM PAINTING THAT AREA.
11:22:41AM WE WERE MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN LINE WITH THE MASTER
11:22:44AM PLAN
11:22:45AM AND EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO THERE, BUT WE'RE
11:22:48AM OKAY WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
11:22:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:22:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
11:22:58AM CITY HAS ALREADY PUT -- THAT THEY'LL DO THAT ANYWAY.
11:23:02AM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
11:23:04AM GOING TO HAVE A PARTY THAT'S BEEN CANCELED, GOING TO BE A
11:23:09AM PARTY ANYWAY?
11:23:10AM I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
11:23:14AM THE CITY IN THEIR TESTIMONY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT,
11:23:16AM AND THEY'VE DONE IT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY ALREADY.
11:23:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. DEMAIO, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THE CITY IS
11:23:28AM GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY, THE DIFFERENCE IS MAYBE THE CITY WILL
11:23:30AM HAVE TO DIRECTLY PAY LATER ON, BUT THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING
11:23:34AM TO TRY TO DO IT.
11:23:36AM MAYBE THIS DELAYS IT FOR YOU ALL UNTIL YOU GET YOUR
11:23:39AM PROJECT --
11:23:40AM >> CORRECT.
11:23:40AM AGAIN, IT'S EASIER, IF THEY PAINT IT AND WE DECIDE TO EITHER
11:23:43AM ELIMINATE THAT ENTRANCE, MAKE THE ENTRANCE SMALLER, THERE'S
11:23:46AM A LOT OF THINGS IN THE AIR.
11:23:48AM THE ONLY THING, YOUR QUESTION AND ASKED TODAY, DENY THE
11:23:54AM STREET BRICK REMOVAL.
11:23:55AM IF YOU DENY THE STREET BRICK REMOVAL, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO
11:23:59AM BUILD A CEMENT BULB-OUT.
11:24:00AM THREE YEARS FROM NOW THEY WANT TO DO IT IN CEMENT, BUT THEN
11:24:03AM WE WOULD HAVE SETTLED OUR ISSUES.
11:24:05AM GONE TO THE TABLE, WORKED OUT WHATEVER THE PROBLEMS ARE,
11:24:08AM FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR PARKING IS GOING TO BE.
11:24:09AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST UP AGAINST IT.
11:24:12AM THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO DECIDE -- AGAIN, THERE'S BRICK IN
11:24:15AM THE BACK, ENTRANCE IN AND OUT OF THERE IN THE REAR FROM
11:24:18AM HENDERSON AND ENTRANCE IN AND OUT FROM TYLER.
11:24:20AM WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TYLER.
11:24:22AM AND WE'RE ASKING JUST TO NOT GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO THIS
11:24:26AM STREET BRICK REMOVAL THAT -- SAY DO A PAINT THING UNTIL A
11:24:30AM FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THEY'LL DO THE BUTT-OUT AND THEN THE
11:24:34AM BUILDING WILL BE FIXED.
11:24:36AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SOLUTION FOR ALL OF US AND WE CAN
11:24:39AM STILL TALK TO THE CITY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE FIX THAT WHOLE
11:24:42AM SECTION OF TYLER.
11:24:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. HEALY, COULD I ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION
11:24:48AM AND MAYBE IT'S REDUNDANT.
11:24:49AM IF WE VOTE AGAINST THIS, WE'RE NOT VOTING AGAINST THE
11:24:51AM DEVELOPER.
11:24:52AM WE'RE JUST VOTING AGAINST THE CRITERIA THAT THE CITY GAVE
11:24:56AM THE DEVELOPER.
11:24:57AM >> IF YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS AND TURN US DOWN AND WE DON'T
11:24:59AM HAVE A SOLUTION YOU BASICALLY ARE STALLING AND STOPPING OUR
11:25:02AM PROJECT.
11:25:02AM WE HAVE TO DELIVER OUR STUDENT HOUSING PRODUCT WITHIN A YEAR
11:25:06AM FOR THE NEXT STUDENT SEASON.
11:25:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. ZELMAN, WHAT DO WE DO?
11:25:13AM WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS OTHER SOLUTIONS IN THIS
11:25:18AM MEETING?
11:25:19AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M CORRECT IN
11:25:22AM UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.
11:25:23AM ARE YOU REQUESTING APPROVING THE BRICK REMOVAL IN EVERY PART
11:25:27AM OF THE PROJECT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT ONE BULB-OUT ON
11:25:30AM THE --
11:25:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS, BUT
11:25:33AM IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEVELOPER MAYBE DOESN'T CARE EXCEPT THAT
11:25:36AM THIS WILL DELAY THEIR PROJECT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ASKED FOR
11:25:40AM IT.
11:25:40AM THE ADJACENT BUILDING WANTS AT LEAST A DELAY SO THEY CAN
11:25:44AM FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEIR PROJECT.
11:25:47AM BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SOLUTION THAT WAS ON THE TABLE IS TO
11:25:50AM PAINT IT AT LEAST TEMPORARILY INSTEAD OF BUILDING THIS
11:25:53AM BUTT-OUT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE DEVELOPER IS OKAY WITH,
11:25:55AM EXCEPT THAT IF WE REJECT THIS NOW WITHOUT THE OTHER SOLUTION
11:25:59AM APPROVED BY THE CITY, THEN IT DELAYS THEIR PROJECT.
11:26:01AM HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS LEGALLY?
11:26:05AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AM I CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL
11:26:07AM MR. DEMAIO IS OBJECTING TO IS ONE PARTICULAR BULB-OUT.
11:26:11AM IT SEEMS TO ME THE QUESTION IS, COULD THE APPROVAL BE
11:26:14AM REVISED TO BE APPROVING ALL THE OTHER BRICK REMOVAL WITH THE
11:26:18AM EXCEPTION OF THAT BULB-OUT, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:26:21AM >> RIGHT.
11:26:21AM AND THE CITY WOULD THEN --
11:26:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE MODIFY HERE OR NOT?
11:26:28AM CAN WE MODIFY IT HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO BRING IT BACK?
11:26:33AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:26:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED, PLEASE.
11:26:36AM THANK YOU.
11:26:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T
11:26:40AM DELAY EVERYBODY.
11:26:41AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR IS HOW THE
11:26:43AM RESOLUTION READS IN TERMS OF DOES IT IDENTIFY THE EXACT
11:26:47AM GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS.
11:26:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THERE EXHIBITS ATTACHED TO THAT AS
11:26:52AM WELL?
11:26:52AM MS. HARDY, ARE THERE EXHIBITS ATTACHED TO THAT AS WELL THAT
11:26:55AM WOULD HAVE TO BE REVISED?
11:26:57AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WOULD YOU REVISE THE EXHIBIT?
11:27:05AM I THINK THE EXHIBIT COULD BE REVISED.
11:27:07AM THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION YOU'D BE APPROVING COULD BE REVISED
11:27:11AM TODAY.
11:27:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: WOULD WE NEED A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS?
11:27:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE CAN SKIP 63 -- WE HAVE OTHERS WE CAN
11:27:19AM DO.
11:27:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT 64 --
11:27:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED ABOUT DELAYING THIS TO MAKE A
11:27:39AM REVISION AND WE WOULD GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
11:27:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE IS 64, WHICH IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
11:27:47AM WHENEVER YOU ALL ARE READY, JUST LET US KNOW.
11:27:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE ASK IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTION IN
11:27:54AM THE ROOM FOR 64?
11:27:55AM ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT WITHOUT OPENING?
11:27:58AM IF THERE IS ANOTHER OBJECTION THEY SHOULD NEGOTIATE -- 63,
11:28:03AM WHATEVER THE NEXT ONE IS.
11:28:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THEY PROBABLY WANT TO BE HERE FOR 63.
11:28:15AM WE'LL JUST GO FORWARD TO 64.
11:28:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE THEY COULD TAKE THAT OUTSIDE.
11:28:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND TAKING IT OUTSIDE, WE'D
11:28:30AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:28:31AM THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
11:28:32AM ITEM 64, APPARENTLY THERE IS A CONTINUANCE BEING REQUESTED.
11:28:36AM IS ANYONE HERE FOR 64?
11:28:39AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:28:41AM COORDINATION.
11:28:41AM THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE CONTINUANCE.
11:28:44AM I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BUT THEY DID -- WE ARE
11:28:46AM WORKING ON A SOLUTION TO GO FORWARD WITH THE VACATING IN A
11:28:50AM MONTH.
11:28:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:28:51AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT SOLELY ON THE
11:28:54AM CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM 64?
11:28:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO CONTINUE 64 TO
11:29:00AM OCTOBER 17th, 2019, AT 10:30 A.M.
11:29:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:29:06AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:29:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:29:08AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:29:09AM WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 64.
11:29:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 65.
11:29:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
11:29:15AM 65.
11:29:20AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:29:21AM COORDINATION.
11:29:23AM THIS REQUEST IS FOR A PORTION OF AN ALLEY IN THE NORTH HYDE
11:29:27AM PARK AREA.
11:29:28AM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
11:29:32AM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE THE EAST-WEST PORTION
11:29:36AM OF THE ALLEY.
11:29:37AM NORTH-SOUTH PORTION HERE AS WELL.
11:29:41AM IT LIES SOUTH OF LEMON, NORTH OF CASS, AND RUNS BETWEEN
11:29:46AM HOWARD AND ALBANY.
11:29:48AM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED AND THE ALLEY IS IN
11:29:50AM YELLOW.
11:29:51AM THE EAST-WEST PORTION IS NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE IT'S PAVED AND
11:29:58AM FUNCTIONING FOR USE WITH A RESTAURANT THAT'S SOON TO BE
11:30:01AM OPENED THERE.
11:30:02AM FIND MY PICTURES.
11:30:11AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:30:16AM FIRST, I'LL SHOW YOU THE PLAT.
11:30:22AM THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED BY A PLAT.
11:30:24AM THIS IS THE PORTION THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO VACATE.
11:30:27AM IT STILL LOOKS THAT WAY TODAY.
11:30:39AM THIS IS OUR MAP.
11:30:40AM THE ALLEY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
11:30:41AM AND THE ALLEY IS PARTIALLY PAVED AT ALBANY.
11:30:50AM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM ALBANY.
11:30:55AM THAT IS THE EAST-WEST PORTION.
11:30:59AM THE PAVED PART.
11:31:00AM THIS IS THE EAST-WEST PORTION LOOKING EAST FROM THE
11:31:04AM NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY.
11:31:05AM SO THIS IS NOT IMPROVED.
11:31:07AM IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A STAGING AREA FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
11:31:10AM THE RESTAURANT.
11:31:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS A COMMENT.
11:31:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE THIS QUESTION TO ASK.
11:31:16AM YOU SEE THE PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN TAKEN DOWN AND PUT OFF TO THE
11:31:20AM SIDE.
11:31:21AM HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN LIKE THAT, DO YOU KNOW?
11:31:25AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I'M NOT SURE.
11:31:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THAT UP FOR LONG ENOUGH TIME FOR PROPER
11:31:30AM NOTICE?
11:31:30AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THE WAY IT STATES, THEY HAVE TO NOTICE
11:31:32AM WITHIN 30 DAYS.
11:31:34AM WE DON'T MONITOR IF THE SIGN STAYS UP.
11:31:37AM AS LONG AS THEY TAKE A PICTURE AND THEY TESTIFY THAT THEY
11:31:39AM PUT THE NOTICE UP, THEN THERE'S NO MONITORING OF THAT SIGN
11:31:43AM DURING THAT TIME.
11:31:44AM THAT WAS PROBABLY REMOVED BY THE PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING THE
11:31:49AM WORK ON THE RESTAURANT.
11:31:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT OBSERVATION.
11:31:53AM THAT IS PUBLIC NOTICE, AND IF IT'S BEEN PUT DOWN, TAKEN
11:32:01AM DOWN, I JUST HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THAT, COUNSEL.
11:32:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT MS. LYNCH DID SAY IS CORRECT.
11:32:09AM AT THE TIME OF THE FILING OF THE AFFIDAVIT, THAT HAS TO BE
11:32:11AM IN THE CLERK'S FILE.
11:32:13AM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS NORMALLY THE CLERK DOES VERIFY THIS
11:32:17AM BEFORE IT IS PUT FORWARD TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA, BUT I
11:32:20AM WILL VERIFY THAT, SIR.
11:32:23AM ONCE THE PHOTOGRAPH IS TAKEN, THE AFFIDAVIT IS FILED, THERE
11:32:25AM IS NO CONTINUING OBLIGATION TO ENSURE THE SIGN IS ALWAYS IN
11:32:28AM LOCATION.
11:32:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:32:31AM THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
11:32:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, ONE SECOND.
11:32:40AM MR. SHELBY, I SEE PEOPLE WITH SIGNS OUT THERE.
11:32:42AM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S RULES WITH SIGNS?
11:32:45AM THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD SIGNS.
11:32:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO SIGNS ALLOWED.
11:32:51AM YOU CAN HAVE A T-SHIRT.
11:32:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU CANNOT HAVE SIGNS.
11:32:54AM I HAVE TO ASK THE GOOD FOLKS OUT THERE WITH SIGNS, I
11:32:57AM APPRECIATE YOUR VIGOR AND PASSION, UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL
11:32:59AM RULES PRECLUDE SIGNS.
11:33:00AM WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
11:33:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE
11:33:04AM OPPORTUNITY TO CONVEY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IS DURING
11:33:07AM PUBLIC COMMENT AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:33:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, WE WELCOME YOUR EXPRESSION AND VIEWS --
11:33:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN WEAR A GARMENT.
11:33:13AM YOU CAN WEAR GARMENTS ANYWHERE.
11:33:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIGNS SPECIFICALLY ARE DISTRACTING TO
11:33:20AM COUNCIL AND PROHIBIT.
11:33:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:33:22AM AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
11:33:26AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM EVERYBODY.
11:33:28AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY.
11:33:31AM THERE IS A RESTAURANT ON THE CORNER AT HOWARD THAT WILL BE
11:33:36AM OPENING SOON.
11:33:37AM THAT'S WHY THAT'S EITHER REPAVED OR PAVED.
11:33:40AM I'M NOT SURE.
11:33:41AM THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE.
11:33:42AM THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH
11:33:46AM FROM LEMON STREET.
11:33:47AM THERE ARE TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN THE REPORT THAT YOU
11:33:50AM SHOULD HAVE SEEN THAT ARE FOR THE PROPERTIES AT THE CORNER
11:33:54AM OF CASS AND ALBANY.
11:33:57AM THIS IS 2101 WEST CASS.
11:34:01AM AND THEY ARE THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAD THE ENTRANCE OFF OF
11:34:04AM ALBANY TO THE PARKING LOT IN THE REAR.
11:34:06AM AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE REAR OF IT.
11:34:10AM THIS IS THE PARKING LOT TO THE SIDE THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE
11:34:16AM OF THAT PROPERTY.
11:34:16AM AND THEN THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF THE RESTAURANT THAT'S
11:34:21AM SOON TO BE OPENED.
11:34:23AM THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE VACATING ACTIVITY
11:34:30AM IN THIS AREA.
11:34:31AM THIS IS ABOUT A MILE SQUARE.
11:34:33AM EVERYTHING IN RED IS WHAT'S BEEN VACATED AND THE APPLICANT'S
11:34:36AM PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE.
11:34:38AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF VACATING IN THIS AREA.
11:34:41AM STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS REQUEST BASED ON THE OBJECTION FROM
11:34:46AM TRANSPORTATION.
11:34:46AM THERE ARE FACILITIES IN THE ALLEY.
11:34:48AM IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE WILL NEED EASEMENTS FOR WASTEWATER
11:34:55AM AND FRONTIER OVERALL.
11:35:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN CITRO'S
11:35:03AM CONCERN, THE CLERK DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
11:35:06AM FILE.
11:35:06AM THE SIGN WAS IN PLACE AND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN
11:35:09AM COMPLIED WITH.
11:35:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
11:35:11AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION
11:35:15AM PLANNER.
11:35:16AM I WANT TO EXPLAIN OUR OBJECTION.
11:35:17AM IT IS NOT A COMPLETE OBJECTION.
11:35:19AM MY CONCERN WITH THEM, SO THE ALLEY IS AT THIS LOCATION.
11:35:23AM HOW THIS DRIVEWAY, HOW THIS PARKING WORKS IS THEY ARE
11:35:29AM REQUIRED, THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE WORKING, I SAW A PICTURE,
11:35:34AM SO I THINK I KNOW HOW THEY ARE DOING IT.
11:35:37AM THEY SHOULD BE COMING IN FROM THIS ALLEY AND GOING INTO
11:35:41AM THESE SPACES AND EXITING ON CASS.
11:35:45AM IF THEY VACATE THE ALLEY, THEY ONLY GET FIVE FEET.
11:35:50AM THEY WON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL ROOM TO GO DOWN THE ALLEY ANY
11:35:53AM MORE.
11:35:54AM IT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO GET A PERMIT TO REDO THIS PARKING
11:35:59AM LOT.
11:35:59AM WHAT UNFORTUNATELY COULD OCCUR IS THIS SPACE, WHICH USED TO
11:36:04AM MANEUVER INTO THE ALLEY, CAN NO LONGER DO THAT.
11:36:07AM THIS ONE WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
11:36:09AM IF THEY GET A DRIVEWAY OFF OF ALBANY, SECTION 27 --
11:36:15AM [INAUDIBLE] STATES NONRESIDENTIAL PARKING LOTS HAVE TO
11:36:18AM ACCESS ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR STREETS.
11:36:20AM THAT WOULD BE CASS.
11:36:21AM THAT COULD ALSO TRIP THEM INTO OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY MAY
11:36:27AM NEED A WAIVER TO THAT.
11:36:28AM THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE ASPHALT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS
11:36:32AM THIS WAS PAVED WITHOUT PERMIT.
11:36:34AM THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN A NEW DRIVEWAY HERE TO MAKE THIS
11:36:39AM FUNCTIONAL.
11:36:39AM I JUST WANTED THE PETITIONER AWARE, WHEN HE DOES THIS, WHICH
11:36:45AM HE MIGHT ALREADY KNOW, BUT I WANT IT ON RECORD THIS COULD
11:36:49AM OPEN A LOT OF ISSUES FOR HIM IF HE NOW HAS TO GO AND PERMIT
11:36:53AM THIS PARKING LOT BECAUSE HE'S REMOVED HIS ACCESS.
11:36:57AM I'M NOT SURE IF HE REALLY UNDERSTOOD.
11:37:00AM IT'S NOT REALLY AN OBJECTION.
11:37:01AM I WANT IT ON RECORD THAT THIS COULD OPEN A BALL OF PROBLEMS
11:37:07AM FOR HIS PROPERTY LATER.
11:37:08AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING.
11:37:10AM THAT OWNER IS NOT THE APPLICANT.
11:37:14AM HE'S IN SUPPORT OF IT.
11:37:15AM I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE OR NOT.
11:37:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BOTH OF YOU, IS THE PETITIONER THE SAME
11:37:23AM LOCATION AT 2104?
11:37:25AM >> ON LEMON STREET.
11:37:27AM NO.
11:37:30AM THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT 2101 WEST CASS IS NOT THE
11:37:33AM APPLICANT BUT DID WRITE A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE VACATING.
11:37:36AM I'M NOT SURE IF THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF VACATING
11:37:39AM THE ALLEY IN TERMS OF --
11:37:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S NOT UP TO ME.
11:37:42AM HE WROTE THE LETTER, HE WROTE THE LETTER.
11:37:44AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: HE WROTE THE LETTER IN SUPPORT BUT THE
11:37:46AM APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY AT 2104 WEST LEMON.
11:37:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA KIND OF ALLUDED AROUND IT.
11:38:03AM MS. CALLOWAY DID, TOO.
11:38:05AM COULD OPEN UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORMS.
11:38:08AM DID THE PETITIONER -- MAYBE THEY NEED TO GET WITH THE OWNER
11:38:17AM SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT THIS MAY
11:38:21AM CAUSE.
11:38:22AM I'LL YIELD BACK UNTIL THE APPLICANT COMES UP.
11:38:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:38:26AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:27AM IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
11:38:29AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:38:36AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:38:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:38:38AM THOMAS BLEVINS, THE APPLICANT.
11:38:41AM I LIVE AND RESIDE AT 2104 WEST LEMON STREET.
11:38:45AM I'VE BEEN AT THIS LOCATION OVER 22 YEARS.
11:38:52AM WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM NECA, WHICH IS THE UNION
11:38:56AM BUILDING WHICH IS BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
11:38:58AM THEY WILL STATE HOW THE FUNCTIONING OF THE PARKING LOT
11:39:02AM WORKS.
11:39:02AM IT WORKS FINE CURRENTLY WITH AN ENTRANCE ON CASS ENTERING
11:39:07AM INTO THAT PARKING LOT AND NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE
11:39:10AM WAY IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED.
11:39:12AM WE DO ASK THAT YOU GUYS HELP US VACATE THIS ALLEY.
11:39:17AM IT IS ALREADY VACATED.
11:39:21AM WE NEED YOUR PERMISSION AND APPROVAL TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD
11:39:23AM BECAUSE IT IS NOT BEING USED.
11:39:25AM THAT'S THE REASON IT'S VACATED.
11:39:28AM YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES HERE, THIS IS WHAT I FACE ALL
11:39:32AM THE TIME.
11:39:33AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS CLOSE TO THIS AREA.
11:39:37AM WHEN THE STUDENTS ACTUALLY GO BACK HOME, THEY HAVE NO PLACE
11:39:39AM TO PUT THEIR MATTRESS, SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY DUMP IT INTO
11:39:44AM THE ALLEY, AND YOU CAN SEE TIME AFTER TIME, WE HAVE TONS OF
11:39:50AM DIFFERENT DEBRIS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY BRING TO THE AREA.
11:39:53AM WE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SQUATTING IN THE
11:39:59AM AREA.
11:39:59AM AND THIS IS THE STUFF THAT I WAS FACED WITH CLEANING UP THIS
11:40:03AM ALLEY ALL THE TIME.
11:40:05AM PEOPLE GOING TO THE BATHROOM, HAVING TO CLEAN THAT UP.
11:40:09AM DUMPING THEIR BAGS IN THE ALLEY.
11:40:14AM THIS IS A PICTURE OF US CLEANING UP THE ALLEY.
11:40:19AM IT'S HARD TO ACCESS THE ALLEY FROM THE FRONT OF THE STREET.
11:40:23AM BUT OVER THE YEARS, THESE ARE DIFFERENT PICTURES OF ALL THE
11:40:27AM DIFFERENT DEBRIS THAT HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE ALLEY.
11:40:34AM THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE NECA BUILDING, AND TRANSPORTATION
11:40:39AM DID STATE THAT THEY HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY.
11:40:41AM THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 30 FEET OF PARTIALLY PAVED ASPHALT IN
11:40:48AM THE ALLEY.
11:40:49AM AND TRANSPORTATION SAYS THEY HAVE TO GO IN THIS WAY, BUT THE
11:40:53AM OFFICE MANAGER FROM THIS BUILDING IS HERE AS WELL, AND
11:40:56AM SHE'LL LET EVERYBODY KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE WHO USE THIS
11:41:01AM PARKING LOT ACTUALLY ENTER FROM CASS WITHOUT HAVING ANY
11:41:05AM PROBLEMS.
11:41:06AM IF THEY DID USE THE ALLEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO CROSS OVER
11:41:12AM THIS IN THE BACK OF THIS BUILDING, OVER THIS GRASSY AREA,
11:41:18AM WHICH THERE IS A BIG DIP, AND IT GOES FROM THE BACK OF THE
11:41:25AM BUILDING TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
11:41:27AM THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WITH THAT PARKING LOT, IF THEY USED
11:41:35AM IT FROM THE ALLEY WOULD FACE AT THIS TIME.
11:41:39AM WE DO LIKE TO MENTION THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE
11:41:41AM OTHER ALLEYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN
11:41:43AM VACATED.
11:41:45AM I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T PUT ANY CONCRETE ON THIS AREA
11:41:50AM BECAUSE THIS AREA IN WEST TAMPA IS ALREADY STARTING TO CATCH
11:41:54AM A LOT MORE WATER THAN WE USED TO HAVE.
11:41:58AM I'M SEEING LIKE THREE TO FOUR INCHES OF WATER STANDING FOR
11:42:02AM HOURS, WHEREAS 22 YEARS AGO WHEN I MOVED INTO THE
11:42:05AM NEIGHBORHOOD, WE NEVER HAD THAT ISSUE OR PROBLEM.
11:42:08AM THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA OF THE DOMAIN
11:42:12AM HOMES, THE BAKERY.
11:42:16AM THE BAKERY HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH MAKING THE
11:42:19AM NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK GOOD, HOWEVER THAT ALLEY IN THE NORTHWEST
11:42:22AM -- OR NORTH-SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY, THAT HAS BEEN PAVED
11:42:27AM OVER WITH PAVEMENT.
11:42:28AM AND THAT'S GOING TO BE USED TO ENTER FROM CASS AND THEY ARE
11:42:33AM EXITING ON LEMON STREET FOR THE BAKERY.
11:42:38AM I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT THE CONCRETE IS ONE OF MY
11:42:43AM BIGGEST CONCERNS, NOT HAVING ANYBODY PAVE OVER THIS AND THEN
11:42:48AM HAVE STANDING WATER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:42:49AM THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
11:42:50AM THERE'S OVER 15 PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
11:42:55AM VACATING OF THE ALLEY, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT
11:42:58AM AS WELL.
11:42:58AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:43:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS.
11:43:02AM COUNCILMAN CITRO HAD A QUESTION.
11:43:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PUT THAT PICTURE UP AGAIN OF THE
11:43:06AM PARKING LOT AND THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO THE BUILDING?
11:43:09AM >> YES, SIR.
11:43:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PUSH IT UP A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
11:43:17AM YOU'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE ENTER OFF OF CASS STREET, PARK IN
11:43:26AM THE PARKING LOT?
11:43:27AM >> THAT IS CORRECT.
11:43:27AM >> ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
11:43:27AM ISN'T THAT GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN?
11:43:29AM >> WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THAT PARKING LOT AND
11:43:32AM THEY ARE HERE TODAY.
11:43:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THE PARKING LOT DESIGNED TO BE ENTERED
11:43:35AM OFF OF CASS?
11:43:37AM >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS PARKING LOT WAS ORIGINALLY
11:43:39AM DESIGNED, IF IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN.
11:43:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS IT PERMITTED TO BE ENTERED OFF OF CASS
11:43:43AM STREET?
11:43:45AM I'M ASKING THE PETITIONER.
11:43:50AM >> I WOULD NOT BE PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I'M THE
11:43:53AM RESIDENT BEHIND THIS BUILDING.
11:43:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:43:56AM NOW, STAFF, CAN YOU --
11:44:00AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION
11:44:02AM PLANNING.
11:44:03AM YOU'RE CORRECT.
11:44:07AM IT'S GOING UP THE DOWN.
11:44:09AM THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT TECHNICALLY.
11:44:11AM I SEE THROUGH OTHER PICTURES THAT THEY GO UP HERE AND PARK
11:44:15AM IN, AND THEN THEY BACK OUT.
11:44:18AM THAT'S NOT HOW IT WAS DESIGNED.
11:44:20AM IT'S NOT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
11:44:23AM JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BIT OF A LOOPHOLE WHEN
11:44:26AM PEOPLE CALL IN AND SAY, DO YOU NEED A PERMIT TO REPAVE,
11:44:30AM POTENTIALLY RESTRIPE MY PARKING LOT?
11:44:32AM THE ANSWER IS USUALLY NO.
11:44:34AM HOWEVER, WHAT CAN OCCUR IS STRIPING LIKE THIS NOT USED
11:44:41AM CORRECTLY, THEY WERE RESTRIPING BUT MAY HAVE RESTRIPED IN A
11:44:45AM DIFFERENT WAY OR USING IT IN A WAY THAT WAS NOT INTENDED.
11:44:48AM AGAIN, IF THEY ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE TO USE A DRIVEWAY OFF
11:44:51AM OF ALBANY, WHICH DON'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND INSTALL ONE, IT
11:44:55AM COULD START TRIGGERING ALL OF THESE THINGS TO HAVE TO NOW
11:44:58AM COME INTO COMPLIANCE, AND THIS AREA WOULD HAVE TO BE PAVED
11:45:02AM -- AS YOU SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF PAVEMENT ON THE PROPERTY,
11:45:06AM ALSO TRIGGER STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS.
11:45:08AM I JUST WANTED THEM TO REALIZE THAT THIS CAN TRIGGER A LOT OF
11:45:12AM THINGS THAT THEY SUBMITTED FOR A PERMIT TO RIGHT THEIR
11:45:17AM PARKING LOT THAT CANNOT BE USING THE ALLEY AS IT WAS
11:45:20AM INTENDED.
11:45:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, BOTH.
11:45:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:45:24AM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:45:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
11:45:33AM LOOK AT THE FILE, AND PERHAPS IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR TESTIMONY
11:45:37AM FROM STAFF RELATIVE TO I GUESS THERE'S A LETTER, A FILE FROM
11:45:42AM ROBERT COOPER SMITH.
11:45:44AM IS ROBERT COOPER SMITH PRESENT TODAY?
11:45:46AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T SEE HIM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S THE
11:45:49AM OWNER OF THE PROPERTY --
11:45:51AM IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO REPRESENTS MR. COOPER SMITH?
11:45:55AM >> I'M HERE REPRESENTING MR. COPPERSMITH.
11:45:56AM >> COPPERSMITH.
11:45:57AM >> I'M SORRY HE COULDN'T JOIN US.
11:45:59AM MY NAME IS STACY WETHERINGTON.
11:46:02AM I'M HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FLORIDA WEST COAST
11:46:04AM CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION.
11:46:06AM I SWORE WITH THE REST OF THE CROWD EARLIER, SIR.
11:46:14AM SO, YES, I AM HERE AS REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR CHAPTER.
11:46:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MY INQUIRE,
11:46:22AM DID YOU HEAR THE COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE CONCERN FROM
11:46:25AM TRANSPORTATION RELATIVE TO THIS PROPERTY?
11:46:27AM >> I DID.
11:46:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING WITH
11:46:29AM REGARD TO THAT?
11:46:31AM >> I CAN TELL YOU WHEN THE SUBJECT CAME UP SEVERAL MONTHS
11:46:34AM AGO, I BROUGHT IT TO OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
11:46:36AM WE ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION SO WE DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE
11:46:39AM AN OWNER.
11:46:42AM OUR CORPORATION IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
11:46:45AM OUR BOARD VOTED ON THIS SUBJECT BACK THEN TWO MONTHS AGO.
11:46:48AM THEY VOTED FOR THE VACATION.
11:46:50AM THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO REPRESENT, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY
11:46:55AM QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
11:46:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:46:58AM OKAY.
11:46:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:46:59AM NEXT, WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 65, IF
11:47:03AM ANYONE IS HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 65.
11:47:07AM SO WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF HOW MANY FOLKS WE HAVE, IF
11:47:09AM EVERYONE WHO IS PLANNING ON SPEAKING, IF YOU COULD PLEASE
11:47:13AM RAISE YOUR HAND.
11:47:14AM PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL AND LET'S PROCEED.
11:47:16AM LET THE FIRST ONE COME FORWARD.
11:47:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:47:29AM MY NAME IS BOB ZIMONI ASWARTI.
11:47:34AM I AM THE NEIGHBOR ON THIS VACATING ALLEY.
11:47:38AM SURPRISINGLY, I JUST WANT TO BRING TO THE COUNCILMEN
11:47:42AM ATTENTION, SEEMS TO BE FIVE FOR THE VACANCY OF THE ALLEY.
11:47:48AM ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE ALLEY GOT CLEANED OUT.
11:47:50AM THE PARKING LOT GOT STRIPED.
11:47:53AM THE NEIGHBOR OBJECTING TO THIS.
11:47:56AM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON CASS HAS ENTRANCES IN AND OUT.
11:48:02AM THEY STRIPE THE PARKING AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY CAN COME
11:48:06AM FROM THE ALLEY AND GO TO THE PARKING.
11:48:09AM WHEN THEY WERE CLEANING THAT ALLEY, AS MY NEIGHBOR PUT UP, A
11:48:15AM LOT OF TRASH GOES THERE.
11:48:16AM THE RESTAURANT BEING AT THE END OF THE ALLEY FACING HOWARD,
11:48:20AM I DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO USE THE ALLEY EXCEPT IN THE
11:48:24AM FUTURE GOING TO BE THE EMPLOYEE PARKING PROBABLY OR
11:48:29AM DELIVERY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
11:48:31AM NOW, AT NIGHT, THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THERE, AND FEW
11:48:37AM ELECTRICAL CODE, WHICH HARDLY A COMPACT CAR CAN PASS THROUGH
11:48:42AM THAT ALLEY.
11:48:43AM SO WE ASK FOR IT TO BE VACATED FOR THE FACT OF SECURITY VERY
11:48:48AM IMPORTANT, WHICH IS VERY DARK AT NIGHT AND IS A DUMP
11:48:53AM STATION.
11:48:53AM SINCE WE APPLIED FOR THIS VACANCY, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ALLEY
11:48:59AM GOT CLEANED AND NICE AND WHITE ROCKS PUT IN THE FRONT AND
11:49:04AM MADE IT LOOK A FUNCTIONAL ALLEY.
11:49:07AM THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
11:49:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:11AM NEXT PERSON, PLEASE.
11:49:13AM >> I'M FOR VACATING THE ALLEY.
11:49:16AM MY MAIN CONCERN -- OH, MY NAME IS VICKY TOM.
11:49:20AM I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDINGS ON CASS STREET.
11:49:23AM ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS, AS I FEEL OUR NEIGHBORS, IS THE
11:49:29AM SAFETY IN THE REAR OF OUR PROPERTIES.
11:49:31AM THE ALLEYS ARE A THOROUGHFARE FOR TRANSIENTS, AS EVERYONE
11:49:36AM HAS MENTIONED AND PICTURES HAVE BEEN SHOWN OF DEFECATION,
11:49:40AM CLOTHING, FOOD, RATS COME.
11:49:43AM AND I HAVE LOOKED OUT MY WINDOW AND HAVE SEEN TRANSIENTS
11:49:46AM JUST WALKING BY.
11:49:48AM MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE FIRST STORY.
11:49:51AM I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT HOMES HAVE BEEN BROKEN INTO.
11:49:54AM AND WE HAVE CHILDREN.
11:49:55AM WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT PLAY IN OUR BACKWARDS OR ON THE
11:49:59AM SWINGS.
11:49:59AM AGAIN, ALLEYWAYS JUST INVITE TRANSIENTS.
11:50:04AM THAT BEAUTIFUL SOMI RESTAURANT.
11:50:08AM IT'S GORGEOUS.
11:50:08AM WE'RE THRILLED IT'S THERE.
11:50:10AM THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE FOOD WASTE IN THEIR DUMPSTERS.
11:50:12AM THAT IS A HUGE INVITATION FOR A FOOD SOURCE FOR TRANSIENTS
11:50:17AM AND FOR THEM JUST DECIDING TO LIVE IN THE AREA.
11:50:22AM I'VE WILL BE LISTENING TO THE HEARINGS, AND YOU ARE ALL VERY
11:50:25AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AS YOU
11:50:27AM SHOULD BE.
11:50:27AM WE'RE TAXPAYERS.
11:50:28AM WE WANT A SAFE, BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
11:50:30AM SO WE HOPE THAT YOU KEEP SAFETY UTMOST IN MIND IN AGREEING
11:50:35AM TO VACATE, PLEASE.
11:50:36AM AND NOT JUST OUR ALLEY, ALL THE ALLEYS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY
11:50:40AM INVITE TRANSIENTS, AND WE HAVE CHILDREN PLAYING IN OUR
11:50:44AM BACKWARDS.
11:50:44AM THANK YOU.
11:50:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NEXT SPEAKER.
11:50:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:50:54AM MY NAME IS JUAN PARA.
11:50:56AM THIS IS MY WIFE, VANESSA PARA.
11:50:58AM WE HAVE LIVED ON LEMON STREET FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW.
11:51:02AM WE OWN A FEW -- A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES ON THAT STREET.
11:51:05AM ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS ON
11:51:13AM THE SIDE WE ARE REFERRING TO.
11:51:14AM WHEN WE MOVED INTO THE STREET WE LIVED ON THE NORTH SIDE.
11:51:17AM THAT ALLEY WAS VACATED AT THAT TIME.
11:51:22AM AND IT CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO TAKE
11:51:28AM PRIDE ON THAT PORTION OF THE LAND.
11:51:30AM WHEN WE MOVED OVER TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET,
11:51:33AM OBVIOUSLY, WE MOVED IN KNOWING THAT THERE WAS AN ALLEYWAY,
11:51:38AM BUT THAT ALLEYWAY HAS DEFINITELY CAUSED SOME ISSUES OVER THE
11:51:42AM YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN ON THAT SITE.
11:51:45AM OUR HOUSE WAS BROKEN INTO ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, AND THAT
11:51:48AM WAS THE METHOD OF ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY.
11:51:53AM WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE LINES THAT RUN THROUGH
11:51:59AM THERE, BUT IN ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN ON THAT STREET,
11:52:04AM NEVER HAS THERE BEEN AN ISSUE WHERE THOSE LINES HAVE BEEN
11:52:09AM MAINTENANCED OR HAVE THEY NEEDED TO GET TO MAINTENANCE THEM
11:52:15AM THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY.
11:52:17AM THERE ARE MANHOLES ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BLOCK.
11:52:22AM THERE ARE NO FORMS OF GETTING INTO THOSE LINES BETWEEN
11:52:28AM ALBANY AND HOWARD AVENUE.
11:52:30AM SO WE ARE IN FAVOR OF VACATING.
11:52:33AM IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:52:35AM PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE LAND.
11:52:38AM AS IT IS NOW, IT'S UNUSABLE.
11:52:42AM AS PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A CAR THROUGH
11:52:45AM THERE.
11:52:45AM THERE ARE PALM TREES THAT HAVE GROWN SO CLOSE TOGETHER THAT
11:52:49AM USING IT FOR VEHICLES, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
11:52:52AM ANYWAY, WE JUST WANTED TO LEND OUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU
11:52:56AM GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
11:52:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:52:59AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:53:00AM MA'AM, BEFORE YOU GO UP, IF I MAY, MAY I GET A MOTION FOR --
11:53:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 30 MINUTES.
11:53:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:53:09AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:53:10AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:53:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:14AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:53:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:53:15AM MY NAME IS SHEILA PADGETT.
11:53:17AM I'VE ACTUALLY LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.
11:53:20AM SO PROBABLY LONGER THAN MOST.
11:53:23AM MY KIDS WERE RAISED IN THAT AREA.
11:53:25AM WEST TAMPA, AS YOU KNOW, IS GROWING TREMENDOUSLY.
11:53:27AM WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW HOMES PUT THERE.
11:53:29AM I WILL SAY, I'VE HAD MY SHED BROKEN INTO A COUPLE OF TIMES.
11:53:34AM I LIVE AT WEST LEMON STREET RIGHT NEXT TO THE PETITIONER.
11:53:39AM I'M RIGHT BEHIND THE ALLEY.
11:53:40AM I DO SAY THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
11:53:43AM MY KIDS ARE NO LONGER THERE, BUT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LOT
11:53:45AM OF NEWCOMERS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DO HAVE CHILDREN.
11:53:49AM I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF IT.
11:53:53AM I'M ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO HAD TO CLEAN THE BACK OF MY
11:53:57AM ALLEY, THE BACK OF MY HOUSE SEVERAL TIMES.
11:53:59AM IT IS TRUE, I HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME DIRECTLY THROUGH THE SIDE
11:54:02AM OF MY HOUSE.
11:54:03AM IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME.
11:54:05AM I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF IT, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
11:54:07AM THANK YOU.
11:54:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:54:10AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:54:12AM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
11:54:13AM WILLIE TERRELL.
11:54:14AM I ALSO LIVE ON MY NEIGHBORS HERE AT 2112.
11:54:19AM I ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, 2110.
11:54:23AM I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY ARE SAYING AS FAR AS SAFETY.
11:54:26AM I'M HERE TO ASK FOR THE APPROVAL TO VACATE MYSELF.
11:54:30AM THEY HIT ON ALL THE POINTS THAT -- THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
11:54:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
11:54:38AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:54:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:54:42AM COREY JOHNSON.
11:54:43AM I'M AT 2118.
11:54:45AM PROBABLY ONE OF THE CLOSEST ONES NEXT TO THE SOMI
11:54:50AM RESTAURANT.
11:54:50AM SECOND EVERYTHING THEY SAID FOR VACATING THE ALLEY.
11:54:53AM ALSO, GO BULLS.
11:54:54AM HEARD THAT EARLIER.
11:54:55AM AS WELL AS, THEY ARE ALMOST DONE WITH THE PROJECT.
11:55:01AM THEM HAVING ACCESS TO THE ALLEY I DON'T THINK REALLY WAS A
11:55:05AM CONCERN.
11:55:05AM THEY ARE SMART BUSINESSMEN, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY NEED
11:55:08AM THAT ALLEY AND TRYING TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE NOW IS PROBABLY
11:55:11AM AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
11:55:12AM BUT ANOTHER THING, HAVING TRAFFIC IN THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE
11:55:17AM BUT ALSO IN THE BACK IS A SAFETY CONCERN FOR ME AND MY WIFE.
11:55:20AM I JUST WANT TO SECOND EVERYTHING AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING
11:55:23AM YOU DO.
11:55:23AM THANK YOU.
11:55:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
11:55:25AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:55:28AM >> MY NAME IS JOHN MEREDES, BUSINESS OWNER AT 2107 WEST
11:55:34AM CASS.
11:55:35AM WE'VE BEEN OCCUPYING THE BUILDING TEN YEARS AND NEXT DOOR TO
11:55:38AM THE ELECTRICAL UNION.
11:55:39AM JUST TO ADDRESS WHAT HAS BEEN PORTRAYED, I'VE BEEN LOOKING
11:55:44AM AT THAT PARKING LOT FOR TEN YEARS.
11:55:45AM YOU CAN DRIVE IN AS ANY PERSON CAN AND PULL STRAIGHT IN OR
11:55:49AM LIKE A LOT OF GUYS LIKE TO DO, YOU CAN BACK IN.
11:55:52AM BUT THERE'S NO BACKING OUT.
11:55:54AM NOBODY COMES FROM THE BACK.
11:55:56AM THERE ARE TREES THAT PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT, AND THERE
11:55:58AM IS A DANGEROUS HAZARD FOR ANY CAR TO BOTTOM OUT COMING
11:56:02AM ACROSS THAT WAY.
11:56:04AM MORE IMPORTANTLY HAS BEEN THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TRASH AND
11:56:10AM PROBLEMS WITH THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD TO CLEAN UP OVER THE
11:56:13AM YEARS.
11:56:13AM THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ABILITY FOR ANYONE TO EVEN ACCESS.
11:56:18AM AS A BUSINESS OWNER, WE REPRESENT OVER 300 BUSINESSES IN THE
11:56:20AM AREA.
11:56:21AM I HAVE TEN EMPLOYEES.
11:56:22AM I'M A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.
11:56:25AM ACROSS THE STREET IS ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER OF 25 YEARS.
11:56:28AM THE TWO OF US -- WE'VE HAD THREE ALTERCATIONS TO HOLD PEOPLE
11:56:33AM AT BAY PHYSICALLY IN THAT AREA AND CALL THE POLICE TO BACK
11:56:37AM US UP BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH THINGS TO PROTECT US.
11:56:40AM THOSE ARE PEOPLE IN THOSE ALLEYS.
11:56:41AM WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR BEST TO DO OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH
11:56:44AM FOR OUR BUSINESS AND THE COMMUNITY.
11:56:47AM THE REALITY IS, IT'S A TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:56:51AM WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN AS BUSINESS OWNERS TO WORK
11:56:53AM WITH THE RESIDENTS TO COLLABORATE.
11:56:56AM THAT ALLEY, WE'VE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF OUR BUSINESS
11:57:00AM DOLLARS TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
11:57:04AM LIGHTS AND CAMERAS THAT YOU AS A COUNCIL ARE NO LONGER IN
11:57:09AM THE POSITION TO SUPPORT.
11:57:11AM LET US DO OUR JOB.
11:57:13AM VACATE.
11:57:14AM GIVE US THEIR SUPPORT.
11:57:15AM LET US AS BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS MAKE USE OF THAT AND
11:57:19AM MAKE IT SAFER FOR US AS A COMMUNITY.
11:57:21AM THAT'S WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER OR
11:57:23AM NOT SOMEBODY IS BACKING THEIR CAR IN OR COMING OUT THE RIGHT
11:57:27AM WAY.
11:57:28AM ONLY THREE EMPLOYEES AT THAT UNION.
11:57:30AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE.
11:57:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:57:33AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 65?
11:57:36AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY?
11:57:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. CALLOWAY, I'M ALWAYS FOR HEARING
11:57:46AM CITIZENS' CONCERNS.
11:57:48AM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
11:57:48AM MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS, LET'S JUST SAY THIS COUNCIL DOES
11:57:53AM APPROVE THIS ALLEYWAY CLOSURE.
11:57:57AM WHAT KIND OF HARDSHIP WOULD THAT BRING ON TO THE PROPERTY
11:57:59AM OWNER NOW SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THIS PARKING LOT IS
11:58:06AM DESIGNED.
11:58:07AM ARE WE THE CITY GOING TO COME IN NOW AND GET ON THIS
11:58:10AM PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE THE CHANGES?
11:58:12AM I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WE MOVE IN
11:58:18AM A DIFFERENT DIRECTION SOMETIMES.
11:58:20AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THIS COUNCIL HAPPENS TO SIDE WITH THE
11:58:23AM CITIZENS AND THEIR CONCERNS AND WE CLOSE THIS ALLEY, THAT
11:58:25AM THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T COME THROUGH SOME KIND OF
11:58:30AM HARDSHIP AND MAY NOT CAN AFFORD TO MAKE CHANGES OR WHATEVER.
11:58:33AM I WANT TO HEAR YOUR STANCE ON THAT OR LEGAL'S.
11:58:37AM BECAUSE THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE RIGHT NOW.
11:58:38AM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION.
11:58:41AM I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO COME AND EVENTUALLY
11:58:47AM SOMETHING -- IT JUST HAPPENS THAT SOME REASON HE MAY HAVE TO
11:58:52AM COME IN FOR A PERMIT TO RIGHT THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE HE NO
11:58:55AM LONGER CAN USE THAT ALLEY.
11:58:56AM THERE ARE -- THERE IS AN OPTION FOR HIM AND HE CAN DO IT
11:59:00AM AFTER THE FACT.
11:59:01AM HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
11:59:03AM THESE LOTS HERE, HE CAN ALWAYS GET A CROSS-ACCESS WITH THEM.
11:59:09AM THEY ALREADY HAVE EASEMENTS LOCATED THERE -- THERE'S THREE
11:59:13AM HOUSES HERE.
11:59:14AM THEY ALREADY HAVE EASEMENTS BEING RESERVED OVER IT.
11:59:18AM THEY CAN'T BUILD THINGS IN IT.
11:59:20AM WHAT COULD HAPPEN IS THEY COULD GET AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT
11:59:22AM WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY COULD SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN
11:59:25AM TRAVERSE ON MINE FIVE FEET AND TRAVERSE ON YOUR FIVE FEET,
11:59:29AM IF THEY EVER NEEDED ACCESS HERE AND ACCESS HERE, THEY COULD
11:59:32AM AGREE TO THAT.
11:59:33AM THAT'S HAPPENED AND THAT COULD HAPPEN AFTER THE FACT.
11:59:35AM I WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD IF HE GOES INTO PERMITTING, IT
11:59:39AM COULD OPEN A LOT OF ISSUES.
11:59:41AM BUT I JUST WANTED IT OUT THERE.
11:59:43AM THEY ARE WILLING TO GO FORWARD.
11:59:44AM THAT'S FINE.
11:59:45AM THE RESIDENTS, IT'S NOT REALLY AFFECTING THEM.
11:59:48AM ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES SHOULD BE FINE.
11:59:50AM I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THEIRS.
11:59:54AM THAT'S THE ONLY THING.
11:59:55AM I WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
11:59:56AM IT'S ON THE RECORD.
11:59:57AM THEY HAVE TO PERMIT ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO OPEN A BALL OF
12:00:02PM PROBLEMS, BUT THEY ARE FULLY AWARE.
12:00:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:00:10PM APPLICANT, REBUTTAL?
12:00:14PM WERE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:00:20PM OH, OKAY.
12:00:22PM THE APPLICANT.
12:00:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE APPLICANT IS BACK THERE, MR. BLEVINS.
12:00:32PM YOU HAVE TO COME UP.
12:00:33PM MR. BLEVINS.
12:00:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
12:00:41PM >> NO, NO REBUTTAL.
12:00:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:00:44PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:00:46PM YES, SIR.
12:00:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SINCE THE REPRESENTATIVE IS UP.
12:00:49PM LET ME HAVE YOU COME UP.
12:00:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHE ALREADY STATED THAT SHE REPRESENTS
12:00:52PM THE COMPANY.
12:00:53PM THEY ARE NOT OBJECTING TO IT.
12:00:54PM THREE TIMES SHE HEARD IT FROM MS. CALLOWAY.
12:01:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR NAME AGAIN.
12:01:03PM >> STACY WETHERINGTON, SIR.
12:01:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GIVE DEFERENCE TO MR. MIRANDA.
12:01:11PM HE'S BEEN HERE A WHILE.
12:01:12PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP.
12:01:14PM BECAUSE I KNOW HOW SOMETIMES THINGS GET REVERSED AND WE COME
12:01:20PM BACK AND BLAME COUNCIL.
12:01:21PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT MS. CALLOWAY HAS
12:01:25PM SAID IN REFERENCE TO YOUR PROPERTY.
12:01:27PM >> YES, SIR, WE DID UNDERSTAND, AND I ALSO ADDRESSED THAT
12:01:30PM WITH THE BOARD.
12:01:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:01:31PM AND NO OBJECTIONS.
12:01:32PM >> NO OBJECTIONS.
12:01:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:38PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:01:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:01:41PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:01:43PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:01:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER VAC 19-22, ORDINANCE BEING
12:01:58PM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
12:02:00PM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
12:02:02PM A PORTION OF AN ALLEYWAY/RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF LEMON
12:02:07PM STREET, NORTH OF CASS STREET, EAST OF HOWARD AVENUE AND WEST
12:02:09PM OF ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
12:02:12PM FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
12:02:15PM HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,
12:02:19PM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
12:02:22PM HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:02:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:02:26PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:02:28PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:02:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:02:30PM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
12:02:33PM OCTOBER 17th, 2019 AT [INAUDIBLE]
12:02:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:02:39PM WE REVERT BACK TO 62.
12:02:47PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: REAL QUICK, WHAT WE HAVE DONE, YOU HAVE
12:02:49PM YOUR RESOLUTION AND EXHIBIT A TO THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN
12:02:53PM REVISED.
12:02:54PM I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD WANT TO STATE INTO THE RECORD THAT
12:02:56PM YOU'RE APPROVING IT WITH A REVISED EXHIBIT A AS WILL BE
12:03:00PM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK TODAY.
12:03:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SUBMITTED NOW?
12:03:02PM HAS IT BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK AS YET?
12:03:06PM >> NOT YET.
12:03:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN WE DO THAT, COUNCIL, YOU CAN MAKE A
12:03:09PM MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE EXHIBIT AND THEN MOVE
12:03:12PM FORWARD.
12:03:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
12:03:22PM >> THIS IS OUR REQUESTED SUBSTITUTED EXHIBIT.
12:03:25PM THIS AREA THAT WE WERE GOING TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE
12:03:35PM BRICK, WE ARE GOING TO STRIPE NOW.
12:03:43PM AND THAT WILL RESULT IN ONLY 84 SQUARE FEET OF BRICK BEING
12:03:46PM REMOVED OVER HERE ON THIS ITEM.
12:03:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:03:52PM MR. DEMAIO, ANY POSITION STATEMENT?
12:03:57PM >> WE MET AMICABLY AND WE AGREED WITH THE OWNERS TO DO THAT.
12:04:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:04:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:04:05PM MAY WE MOVE TO CLOSE?
12:04:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, IF YOU CAN --
12:04:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, WE HAVE TO FIRST ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
12:04:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE DRAWING ON BSR
12:04:24PM 19-3.
12:04:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:04:27PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:04:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:31PM MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:04:32PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:04:34PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:04:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:40PM THIS IS A RESOLUTION.
12:04:41PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT?
12:04:43PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:04:45PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:04:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:49PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:49PM WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 63.
12:04:57PM >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION
12:04:59PM PLANNING.
12:05:00PM THIS IS JUST NOW ON THE WEST SIDE OF TAMPA AS YOU CAN SEE,
12:05:10PM IT'S ALREADY STRIPED OUT IN THESE AREAS, EXCEPT RIGHT HERE.
12:05:15PM AND THEN IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS WITH THE NEW RAISED
12:05:23PM BULB-OUTS, BRINGING IT BACK AND PUTTING IN TWO SPACES.
12:05:26PM THEY ARE JUST GOING TO REMOVE THOSE LITTLE PIECES.
12:05:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:05:39PM >> WELL, WE SPOKE AT THE BEGINNING OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO
12:05:42PM DO THERE, AND WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE REMOVAL.
12:05:45PM WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:05:48PM ANY QUESTIONS?
12:05:48PM OKAY.
12:05:49PM BEING NONE, WE MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:05:51PM IS ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 63?
12:05:54PM IF SO, COME FORWARD.
12:05:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
12:06:00PM MANISCALCO.
12:06:01PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:06:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:06:04PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION --
12:06:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE BSR 19-4.
12:06:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:06:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:06:15PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:06:17PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:06:17PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:20PM WE MOVE TO ITEM 66.
12:06:22PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
12:06:24PM COORDINATION.
12:06:25PM VAC 19-24 IS A REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF AN ALLEY IN
12:06:31PM THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA.
12:06:33PM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
12:06:34PM THIS IS ALLEY IS NORTH OF CURTIS, SOUTH OF OSBORNE, AND RUNS
12:06:41PM BETWEEN TALIAFERRO AND NEBRASKA.
12:06:44PM IT IS T-SHAPED AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE SOUTHERN LEG OF
12:06:47PM THE ALLEY.
12:06:48PM IT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
12:06:49PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS IN RED.
12:06:51PM LITTLE BETTER EXAMPLE.
12:06:53PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE ALLEY SOUTH OF THE EAST-WEST ALLEY
12:06:59PM TO BE VACATED, JUST THIS SOUTH PORTION.
12:07:02PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING NORTH FROM CURTIS STREET.
12:07:11PM YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH.
12:07:13PM THERE ARE VEHICLES PARKED THERE RIGHT NOW.
12:07:15PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING -- THE NORTH-SOUTH LOOKING SOUTH
12:07:19PM FROM OSBORNE.
12:07:20PM YOU CAN SEE IT'S BLOCKED AT THAT END.
12:07:23PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM TALIAFERRO.
12:07:30PM ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ADVISED THAT THEY NOT GO FOR THE
12:07:34PM ENTIRE ALLEY IS THE EAST-WEST ALLEY IS BEING USED AT THE
12:07:38PM WEST END BY THE OWNERS OF TWO PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE
12:07:41PM OF THE ALLEY.
12:07:42PM SO WE RECOMMEND TO NOT INCLUDE THAT PART.
12:07:46PM THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
12:07:49PM AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY TO BE VACATED THERE IS A
12:07:53PM COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
12:07:54PM AND IT'S A BAKERY.
12:08:04PM IT IS CALLED KROSLAK BAKERY.
12:08:08PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY AREA -- THIS IS ABOUT A MILE SQUARE
12:08:19PM SHOWING ALL THE VACATINGS IN RED THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
12:08:22PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
12:08:28PM THEY DO NEED AN EASEMENT FOR THE --
12:08:32PM THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
12:08:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:34PM IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON 66?
12:08:45PM >> MY NAME IS ROLAND AMOR.
12:08:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, YOU MAY SAY IT
12:08:54PM NOW.
12:08:54PM >> I DO HAVE A LETTER FROM KROSLAK.
12:09:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO OUR ATTORNEY.
12:09:08PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:09:12PM >> I HAVE NOTHING.
12:09:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
12:09:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:09:18PM ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 66, IF SO, PLEASE
12:09:23PM COME FORWARD.
12:09:30PM >> I GUESS IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:09:32PM IT'S A DAY FOR ALLEYS.
12:09:33PM MY NAME IS LINDA MULEY SWITZER.
12:09:37PM I AM A RESIDENT OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:09:40PM I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WEST TAMPA.
12:09:42PM I HAVE LIVED HERE A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
12:09:44PM I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 4724 NORTH NEBRASKA FOR OVER 30
12:09:48PM YEARS.
12:09:49PM I HAD A PERFORMING ARTS SCHOOL IN IT.
12:09:51PM I AM TEAMING UP WITH MY NEIGHBOR WHO HAS THE STRIP NEXT TO
12:09:57PM ME TO CREATE HOPEFULLY A WONDERFUL RETAIL SPACE THAT WILL
12:10:01PM HAVE ANOTHER PERFORMING ARTS SCHOOL IN IT AND HOPEFULLY
12:10:05PM PARTNER WITH EAST TAMPA.
12:10:06PM A LOT OF GREAT THINGS COMING.
12:10:08PM WE KIND OF NEED THAT ALLEY AS A WAY FOR TRAFFIC TO COME IN
12:10:16PM AND OUT.
12:10:16PM I ALSO HAVE MY ENGINEER HERE TO SPEAK ON THE PLANS.
12:10:19PM SO WE REALLY ACTUALLY NEED THAT ALLEY.
12:10:22PM THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
12:10:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE IT, MA'AM.
12:10:26PM NEXT, SIR.
12:10:29PM >> MY NAME IS KLEMY JAMES.
12:10:35PM I'M ASKING THAT THE ALLEY DOES NOT BE VACATED.
12:10:38PM IN MY STUDYING OF THE HILLSBOROUGH AND NEBRASKA AVENUE
12:10:42PM CORRIDOR PLAN THAT WAS DONE IN 2013 BY THE CITY, JUST
12:10:48PM AGAINST IT.
12:10:49PM IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS OF THAT PLAN THAT THE
12:10:55PM ALLEY SHOULD STAY PUT.
12:10:57PM I THINK SOME TALK OF ADUs OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND
12:11:03PM ALLEY ACCESS GIVES ACCESS TO THOSE UNITS.
12:11:09PM READING SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OUT OF PLAN I'M ASKING THAT IT
12:11:13PM DOES NOT BE VACATED BECAUSE IT LIMITS SOME OF THE
12:11:16PM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THAT LOT IN CONJUNCTION OR THIS
12:11:23PM VISION PLAN FOR NEBRASKA AVENUE.
12:11:26PM THAT'S ALL I HAD.
12:11:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:11:27PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:11:28PM ANYONE ELSE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 66?
12:11:32PM >> I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THEY ARE
12:11:34PM LOCATED.
12:11:37PM SOMETIMES WE'LL GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE HAVING OBJECTIONS BUT
12:11:40PM I DID NOT GET ANY CONTACT FROM THIS PERSON.
12:11:42PM HER PROPERTY APPARENTLY IS THESE TWO LOTS HERE.
12:11:45PM YOU OWN THE SIDE AS WELL?
12:11:49PM >> NO.
12:11:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S WAIT UNTIL THEY COME UP FOR PUBLIC
12:11:51PM COMMENT.
12:11:52PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THOSE ARE THE TWO LOTS THAT SHE WAS
12:11:55PM SPEAKING OF.
12:11:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. SWITZER, CAN YOU COME UP AND VERIFY --
12:12:01PM >> YES, I'M AT LINDA MULEY SWITZER.
12:12:05PM 4724 NORTH NEBRASKA ON THE CORNER OF OSBORNE.
12:12:10PM >> WHICH LOT IS YOURS?
12:12:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. SWITZER, COULD YOU VERIFY, ARE YOU
12:12:29PM OPENING THE CLOSING OF THE ALLEYWAY?
12:12:31PM >> YES, I'M OPPOSING CLOSING.
12:12:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:12:47PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:12:48PM I'M SOPHIE RIVERA BYRNE.
12:12:52PM I'M THE PERSON WORKING ENGINEER.
12:12:54PM I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER, REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
12:12:57PM WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY.
12:13:01PM WE ALSO HAVE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO A PROJECT
12:13:05PM THAT ENHANCES THE COMMUNITY.
12:13:06PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN.
12:13:07PM WE'RE PRETTY EARLY IN TELLING YOU ALL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
12:13:12PM DOING, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT, AND
12:13:18PM WE WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THAT CORRIDOR, WHICH IS IN
12:13:22PM THE MASTER PLAN TO ACTUALLY HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
12:13:27PM AND THAT ALLEY IS VITAL FOR US TO HAVE ACCESS SO WE DON'T
12:13:30PM HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT FROM
12:13:35PM NEBRASKA.
12:13:36PM I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MASTER PLAN, YOU WOULD SEE THE
12:13:40PM IMPORTANCE OF THAT ALLEY.
12:13:42PM AND WE CAN COME BACK AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE WILL BE DOING.
12:13:45PM WE ALSO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, AND
12:13:49PM WE WANT TO ENHANCE THAT SO THAT CAN BE THE CATALYST FOR THAT
12:13:54PM REDEVELOPMENT FOR THAT NEBRASKA CORRIDOR, WHICH IS REALLY
12:13:57PM LIKE A LITTLE DOWNTOWN THAT YOU HAVE.
12:14:04PM ANY QUESTIONS?
12:14:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS.
12:14:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:14:06PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
12:14:08PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:14:09PM >> AND I THINK WE HAVE --
12:14:11PM >> CAMERON HEIGHTS.
12:14:13PM I'M THE ACTING AGENT AND BROKER FOR LINDA AND SOPHIE HERE.
12:14:17PM ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS JUST THAT
12:14:19PM THE ALLEY IS VITAL TO THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE
12:14:22PM OF PARKING RATIOS REQUIRED IN THAT COMMUNITY.
12:14:25PM IN ORDER FOR US TO PUT ANY AMOUNT OF HOUSING AND STILL HAVE
12:14:28PM A MUSIC SCHOOL AND RETAIL TO ENHANCE THE GROUND FLOOR THERE
12:14:32PM ON NEBRASKA AND OSBORNE, WE REALLY NEED THAT ALLEYWAY TO BE
12:14:36PM OPEN SO WE CAN ALLOW TURNOUT AND HAVE THAT AS A PATH OF
12:14:39PM EGRESS AND INGRESS.
12:14:40PM IT'S KIND OF VITAL TO US BEING ABLE TO DO THE PROJECT GOING
12:14:45PM FORWARD.
12:14:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:14:46PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:14:47PM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 66?
12:14:50PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:14:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
12:14:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WANT IT BEFORE REBUTTAL?
12:14:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE, IF I COULD.
12:14:59PM WHAT'S ON THE OVERHEAD RIGHT NOW, PROPERTIES ONE, TWO,
12:15:02PM THREE, AND FOUR, WHAT ARE THEY ZONED?
12:15:07PM >> I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW.
12:15:09PM I'M SURE IT IS A COMMERCIAL ZONING.
12:15:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS COMMERCIAL.
12:15:12PM I'M ASSUMING IT'S COMMERCIAL.
12:15:14PM IS LEGAL HERE.
12:15:17PM >> THIS IS CURRENTLY A BAKERY AND PROBABLY A COMMERCIAL
12:15:22PM BUILDING.
12:15:22PM YES, A DANCE SCHOOL.
12:15:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:15:26PM FOR THE APPLICANT NOW, REBUTTAL, SIR.
12:15:30PM >> I'VE LIVED AT 812 EAST -- FOR 12 YEARS.
12:15:36PM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROSTITUTION, DRUGS, THROUGH THAT
12:15:40PM ALLEYWAY.
12:15:41PM THAT'S WHY IT WAS KIND OF TEMPORARILY BLOCKED OFF TO STOP
12:15:44PM THAT FROM GOING THROUGH THERE.
12:15:47PM I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT PAVING THAT ALLEYWAY OR REZONING
12:15:52PM IT AND WHATNOT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
12:15:55PM WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT ALSO GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY AS WELL.
12:16:06PM PEOPLE WOULD COME THROUGH THERE.
12:16:08PM IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS AREA TO LEAVE THAT OPEN LIKE THAT.
12:16:11PM IT'S ONLY THE SIDE CLOSEST TO MY HOME.
12:16:16PM THE OTHER SIDE CAN STAY COMPLETELY OPEN FOR ANY TYPE OF
12:16:20PM TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER THEY NEED IN THAT AREA.
12:16:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU COULD, BEFORE, JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
12:16:26PM >> ROLAND AMOR.
12:16:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK A QUESTION TO ANYONE HERE?
12:16:31PM LOTS 5 AND 19.
12:16:35PM I CAN'T SEE IT.
12:16:36PM IS THERE A FENCE OR JUST TWO DWELLINGS, ONE TO THE NORTH IS
12:16:42PM FIVE.
12:16:43PM THE ONE TO THE SOUTH IS THE LOT NEXT TO 18.
12:16:47PM I GUESS 19.
12:16:48PM JUST THAT OPEN OR IS THERE A FENCE BETWEEN THE ALLEYWAY AND
12:16:51PM THE PROPERTY OWNERS?
12:16:52PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I COULDN'T GET BACK THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL
12:16:55PM FENCED.
12:16:56PM THIS CURRENTLY -- THESE ARE BOTH FENCED AT THE END.
12:16:59PM I COULDN'T TELL YOU IF IT GOES -- IF THE EAST-WEST IS
12:17:02PM FENCED.
12:17:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THERE A FENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ALLEYS?
12:17:05PM THE PROPERTIES ARE 1, 2, 3, 4.
12:17:08PM THAT'S THE ONE THAT IS FACING EAST.
12:17:10PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.
12:17:11PM THERE'S A FENCE.
12:17:12PM I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IN TERMS OF THE ALLEY --
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING SOUTH FROM OSBORNE, I'M
12:17:27PM NOT QUITE SURE WHERE THAT FENCE IS IN RELATION TO THE ALLEY.
12:17:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:17:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUT THAT FRAME BACK UP.
12:17:35PM SO THE ALLEY IS BLOCKED OFF RIGHT NOW.
12:17:39PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES, IT'S BEEN BLOCKED OFF.
12:17:41PM THE SOUTH HALF HAS BEEN BLOCKED OFF FROM BOTH ENDS.
12:17:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SOUTH HALF.
12:17:48PM OKAY.
12:17:49PM THANK YOU.
12:17:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:17:54PM NOTHING FURTHER FROM THE APPLICANT?
12:17:57PM ANYTHING FURTHER, SIR?
12:17:58PM >> NO, SIR.
12:17:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:17:59PM BEFORE A MOTION TO CLOSE IS ENTERTAINED, ANY FURTHER
12:18:04PM QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
12:18:06PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:18:08PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:18:09PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:18:12PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:18:13PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:18:14PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:18:15PM MAN'S I'LL TAKE IT AND READ.
12:18:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL TAKE IT AND READ IT AND SEE WHERE
12:18:22PM IT GOES.
12:18:23PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
12:18:25PM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
12:18:28PM ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALLEYWAY/RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF
12:18:31PM OSBORNE AVENUE, NORTH OF CURTIS STREET, EAST OF TALIAFERRO
12:18:35PM STREET AND WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
12:18:37PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
12:18:39PM SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENTS,
12:18:41PM RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE
12:18:44PM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:18:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:18:51PM OKAY.
12:18:52PM I ASK AGAIN, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:18:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE TO DENY THE APPLICATION BASED ON
12:19:01PM THE FACT THAT -- WHAT TESTIMONY WE HEARD TODAY, THAT THE
12:19:07PM ALLEY SHOULD REMAIN OPEN FOR TRANSPORTATION ON THE RESIDENTS
12:19:13PM -- I MEAN, ON THE BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FACING EAST,
12:19:16PM I THINK IT IS, IT'S INCUMBENT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP
12:19:20PM THAT, AS STATED ON THE RECORD, WHICH IS A QUESTION MARK IN
12:19:23PM MY MIND.
12:19:24PM BUT IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TRANSPORTATION TO GO
12:19:27PM THROUGH, DELIVER THE GOODS.
12:19:28PM YOU CAN'T STOP ON NEBRASKA AVENUE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
12:19:32PM STREET.
12:19:32PM >> SECOND.
12:19:33PM >> SECOND.
12:19:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:19:35PM A SECOND FIRST BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:19:38PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:19:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:19:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, I BELIEVE WITH THAT
12:19:46PM DENIAL, I BELIEVE -- IS THAT SECTION 22-34?
12:19:52PM IS THAT THE VACATE SECTION OR 22-39, IF I COULD JUST
12:19:55PM INQUIRE?
12:19:56PM JUST THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER OF DENIAL.
12:20:01PM 22-39.
12:20:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 22-39 IS THE SECTION THAT I WAS SPEAKING
12:20:08PM ABOUT.
12:20:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:20:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:10PM OKAY.
12:20:11PM WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 67.
12:20:17PM ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF ON 67?
12:20:28PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI.
12:20:30PM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ACCARDIS WHO PETITIONED TO VACATE
12:20:36PM THIS ALLEY.
12:20:37PM AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW THAT REQUEST, AND WE
12:20:39PM RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFILE IN THE FUTURE.
12:20:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:20:42PM WE NEED A MOTION?
12:20:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO ALLOW THE PETITIONER TO WITHDRAW
12:20:50PM THE APPLICATION.
12:20:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:20:52PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:20:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:20:56PM WE MOVE TO ITEM 68.
12:21:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I HAVE A FORM HERE AS
12:21:04PM THIS WAS PART OF A VARIANCE REVIEW THAT I WAS CHAIR OF AT
12:21:07PM THE TIME.
12:21:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:21:10PM WE'LL HAVE FIVE MEMBERS.
12:21:13PM WE'RE GOING OFF AT 12:30.
12:21:15PM I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE STAFF HAS AMPLE TIME TO EAT AND
12:21:20PM WHATNOT.
12:21:20PM WE HAVE HERE ITEM 68 AND THEN THE REPORT ON 69.
12:21:29PM WE JUST HAVE 68.
12:21:32PM AND THEN INFORMATION REPORTS.
12:21:34PM OKAY, SO WE CAN TRY -- LET'S DO IT.
12:21:41PM GO FOR IT.
12:21:53PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:21:54PM CATE WELLS WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
12:21:57PM ALTHOUGH THE ITEM BEFORE YOU WAS IDENTIFIED AS A REVIEW OF A
12:22:00PM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION PURSUANT TO SECTION
12:22:03PM 70.51 FLORIDA STATUTES, THE REVIEW IS ACTUALLY VERY
12:22:07PM DIFFERENT FROM REVIEWS THAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED IN THE PAST.
12:22:12PM TODAY'S HEARING IS NOT A DE NOVO REVIEW OF THE VRB ACTION
12:22:17PM THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR.
12:22:19PM THAT HEARING, THAT DE NOVO REVIEW ACTUALLY OCCURRED BEFORE
12:22:23PM CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 10th, 2019 AND IS THE ACTION FROM
12:22:27PM WHICH THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING RELIEF TODAY.
12:22:30PM ALSO, TODAY'S HEARING IS NOT A REVIEW OF THE SPECIAL
12:22:35PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER COUNCIL'S DECISION
12:22:39PM DURING THE HEARING IN JANUARY WAS UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY
12:22:42PM BURDENED THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
12:22:44PM SECTION 70.51 FLORIDA STATUTES IS INTENDED TO VEST THE
12:22:49PM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WITH THE AUTHORITY TO FIRST FACILITATE
12:22:52PM AND MEDIATE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY TO
12:22:55PM EFFECT A MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION.
12:22:58PM THAT'S THE LANGUAGE IN THE STATUTE.
12:22:59PM IF A MEDIATION IS NOT POSSIBLE, THEN YOU GO THROUGH THE MORE
12:23:05PM FORMAL HEARING PROCESS WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
12:23:07PM SO WE'RE ACTUALLY AT THAT VERY FIRST LEVEL WHERE A MEDIATION
12:23:11PM WAS HELD ON APRIL 15th OF 2019.
12:23:14PM AND AS A RESULT OF THAT MEDIATION, CITY STAFF AND THE
12:23:18PM PROPERTY OWNER HAVE NEGOTIATED A SETTLEMENT THAT IS BEFORE
12:23:22PM YOU FOR APPROVAL.
12:23:23PM THAT IS THE HEARING -- THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
12:23:26PM RECOMMENDATION.
12:23:27PM YOU WILL SEE THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ATTACHED TO THE
12:23:31PM MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION AS EXHIBIT A SETS FORTH WHAT IT
12:23:36PM IS THE PARTIES HAVE NEGOTIATED.
12:23:37PM TODAY REALLY, YES, IT'S THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, BUT
12:23:43PM COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND DECISION IS LIMITED TO CONSIDERATION OF
12:23:45PM THE RECOMMENDATION AND WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED
12:23:49PM LANDSCAPE PLAN INTENDED TO MITIGATE ANY IMPACTS OF THE
12:23:53PM VARIANCES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
12:23:55PM I HAVE SUBMITTED AN OUTLINE OF THE PROCEDURES FOR TODAY,
12:23:59PM SAMPLE MOTIONS AND A COPY OF THE RELEVANT STATUTES.
12:24:03PM ERIC COTTON, UNLESS YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR ME, ERIC COTTON
12:24:07PM IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE DETAILED PROCEDURAL
12:24:10PM HISTORY.
12:24:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:24:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST WELCOME BACK.
12:24:13PM >> THANK YOU, GOOD TO BE BACK.
12:24:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
12:24:16PM >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.
12:24:18PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
12:24:23PM THIS WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD -- SINCE THERE ARE A FEW NEW
12:24:28PM MEMBERS FROM THE LAST TIME COUNCIL HEARD, I'LL DO A QUICK
12:24:31PM SUMMARY OF THE CASE.
12:24:32PM THIS WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD BY THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD ON
12:24:35PM SEPTEMBER 11, 2018.
12:24:38PM THIS IS ON BAYSHORE.
12:24:39PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
12:24:44PM AT THE TIME THE BOARD SAW THIS SITE PLAN, AND WHEN THEY MADE
12:24:49PM THE MOTION, ONE OF THE MOTIONS WAS TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD
12:24:53PM FROM 20 DOWN TO 13, THEY PUT A CONDITION THAT THE TWO
12:24:57PM EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT WERE ENCROACHING THE SETBACK WOULD
12:24:59PM REMAIN AT ONE STORY.
12:25:01PM THE APPLICANT FILED A PETITION FOR REVIEW.
12:25:05PM AT THE JANUARY 10th, 2019 PUBLIC HEARING, CITY COUNCIL
12:25:09PM UPHELD THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S DETERMINATION.
12:25:13PM THEN IT WENT TO THE MEDIATION PROCESS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS
12:25:18PM PROPOSED THIS SITE PLAN, WHICH WOULD ENABLE THE TWO-STORY
12:25:23PM ADDITION WITH PLANTING IN THE BACK ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY
12:25:27PM LINE.
12:25:28PM IT'S PROPOSED TO BE ARECA PALMS, 15-GALLON AT TIME OF
12:25:37PM PLANTINGS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE -- FOUR TREES TO BE
12:25:42PM PLANTED THREE FEET APART.
12:25:44PM AT 15 GALLONS, THEY WILL BE RELATIVELY TALL PLANTS OR TREES.
12:25:48PM THOSE PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE
12:25:55PM EAST AND THIS PROPERTY OWNER.
12:25:57PM STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT.
12:26:01PM NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF HAS ALSO REVIEWED IT.
12:26:04PM STAFF FEELS THAT THIS WOULD BE A COMPROMISE SOLUTION TO
12:26:07PM PROVIDE SOME KIND OF BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS.
12:26:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:26:13PM ANY QUESTIONS.
12:26:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE AGREED TO THIS,
12:26:16PM RIGHT?
12:26:17PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS IN NEGOTIATION
12:26:21PM WITH THE CITY HAS.
12:26:22PM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE TO PUT FORTH HIS
12:26:26PM VIEWPOINT.
12:26:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:26:28PM APPLICANT.
12:26:33PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:26:34PM SUSAN JOHNSON VALEZ.
12:26:35PM WEST BAY STREET ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER ALEX
12:26:38PM ENGLISH.
12:26:39PM I BELIEVE STAFF HAS REALLY SUMMARIZED THIS PRETTY WELL.
12:26:43PM I DID WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS.
12:26:46PM WE DID HAVE A MEDIATION HEARING WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
12:26:50PM SUBSEQUENTLY, MR. ENGLISH DID MEET WITH NATURAL RESOURCES
12:26:53PM STAFF AND VERY CAREFULLY WENT THROUGH THE TYPE OF PLANTINGS
12:26:56PM THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, AND THEY DID COME TO AN AGREEMENT
12:26:58PM AS TO THESE TYPES OF PLANTINGS.
12:27:00PM I DID WANT TO JUST PUT UP FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T HERE
12:27:03PM AND MIGHT NOT REMEMBER.
12:27:05PM THIS IS ACTUALLY THE BACK FENCE THAT SEPARATES MY CLIENT'S
12:27:08PM PROPERTY FROM THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR, WHICH IS WHERE THE
12:27:11PM GENTLEMAN WHO WAS IN OPPOSITION TO THE VARIANCE.
12:27:13PM THERE'S ALREADY SIGNIFICANT PLANTING.
12:27:15PM AND SO THE PLANTING THAT IS PROPOSED IN THAT BACK CORNER
12:27:19PM ACTUALLY PRETTY WELL MATCHES THIS PLANTING.
12:27:21PM AND IT WAS CHOSEN AND AGREED TO BY THE CITY AND MR. ENGLISH
12:27:24PM BOTH FOR THE FACT THAT IT WILL GROW VERY QUICKLY AND ALSO
12:27:28PM FOR THE FACT THAT IT WILL PROVIDE THE KIND OF OPACITY YOU
12:27:31PM SEE IN THIS PICTURE.
12:27:33PM I ALSO WANTED TO BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THE BACKUP, THE
12:27:36PM EXISTING HOME, THIS IS THE AREA PROPOSED.
12:27:43PM THIS IS AN EXISTING SCREENED IN PORCH.
12:27:45PM THEY ARE ASKING TO SQUARE OFF THIS CORNER AND ADD A SECOND
12:27:49PM STORY TO WHAT IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE ALREADY.
12:27:52PM SO THE REMOVAL OF THE CONDITION WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.
12:27:57PM THE HOUSE EXISTS TODAY IS A NORMAL TWO-STORY HEIGHT.
12:28:04PM THERE IS NO HEIGHT VARIANCE.
12:28:05PM IT IS EXACTLY THE HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR A TWO STORY BUILDING.
12:28:09PM THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE BACKYARD NOW.
12:28:11PM THE HOUSE IS A LITTLE L SHAPED.
12:28:13PM THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST GRAND OAKS THAT EXISTS
12:28:15PM IN THE CITY.
12:28:16PM YOU CAN SEE THAT A LOT OF CARE HAS BEEN TAKEN TO BUILD
12:28:18PM AROUND THAT AND NOT TO ENCROACH ON THAT TREE AND TO ACTUALLY
12:28:24PM TRY TO SAVE THAT.
12:28:24PM SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR EXPANSION
12:28:29PM ELSEWHERE, BUT NOT WITHOUT IMPACTING THAT TREE.
12:28:31PM A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN.
12:28:33PM THIS IS KIND OF REVERSE WHAT YOU USUALLY SEE IN A VARIANCE
12:28:36PM REVIEW HEARING.
12:28:37PM WE'RE NOT ASKING TO REMOVE THE TREE BUT ACTUALLY HELP US
12:28:40PM PRESERVE THE TREE.
12:28:41PM WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
12:28:46PM OTHERWISE, WE WOULD ASK YOUR APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL
12:28:49PM MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDATION APPROVING THE SITE PLAN.
12:28:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:28:53PM ANY QUESTIONS?
12:28:54PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:28:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT A TREE IS BEING
12:28:58PM PRESERVED IN THIS KIND OF MANNER.
12:28:59PM BECAUSE WE LOVE TREES AND THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
12:29:02PM THAT IS VERY POSITIVE THING HERE.
12:29:05PM THANK YOU.
12:29:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:29:07PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:09PM IS ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 68?
12:29:13PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:29:15PM NOW IS YOUR TIME, SIR.
12:29:20PM >> BRUCE TIGERT.
12:29:23PM MY WIFE CINDY AND I LIVE AT 2510 WEST GARDNER COURT.
12:29:27PM OUR PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE, OUR
12:29:33PM SIDE PROPERTY LINES CONTIGUOUS WITH THEIR REAR PROPERTY
12:29:36PM LINE.
12:29:37PM WE HAVE BEEN HERE AND SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AT TWO VRB
12:29:42PM HEARING, THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING AND THE MEDIATION BECAUSE
12:29:45PM THIS MATTER AFFECTS AND IMPACTS OUR PROPERTY SO
12:29:47PM SUBSTANTIALLY.
12:29:48PM LET ME SHOW YOU A PICTURE THAT WILL HELP YOU GET AN IDEA.
12:29:53PM THIS IS A VIEW FROM APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET INSIDE OUR
12:30:02PM PROPERTY.
12:30:03PM THE FENCE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
12:30:07PM ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING CURRENTLY IS ON OUR SIDE OF THE FENCE
12:30:10PM TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO MITIGATE THIS STRUCTURE.
12:30:13PM YOU CAN SEE THIS STRUCTURE, THE EAVE LINE IS 24 FEET ABOVE
12:30:20PM GRADE AND 13 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
12:30:24PM SO IT'S VERY IMPOSING.
12:30:25PM ANOTHER PICTURE HERE WILL SHOW YOU, THIS IS LIKE THE SAME
12:30:30PM LOCATION, JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT ANGLE.
12:30:34PM AND WHAT APPROVAL TODAY WOULD DO WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE
12:30:38PM PORTION HERE THAT WAS RESTRICTED AS A ONE-STORY STRUCTURE TO
12:30:42PM GO UP AND GO FROM THIS 14-FOOT EAVE HEIGHT TO 24-FOOT EAVE
12:30:46PM HEIGHT HERE, MATCHING THIS.
12:30:48PM AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT SOLID WALL, SOLID WITH WINDOWS THAT
12:30:52PM ARE LOOKING OUT ONTO OUR PROPERTY.
12:30:55PM THIS HAS A SEVERE IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY AND MAKES A BIG
12:30:59PM DIFFERENCE TO US.
12:31:01PM THIS IS WHAT WE SEE.
12:31:04PM THIS IS ABOUT 50 FEET INTO OUR PROPERTY.
12:31:06PM WHEN WE WALK OUT OUR FRONT DOOR, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE.
12:31:10PM THAT IS THE VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:31:14PM THE PROPOSED SOLUTION HERE, FOUR 15-GALLON ARECA PALMS, COME
12:31:27PM IN SIX TO EIGHT FEET TALL.
12:31:31PM WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED TO THE EAST, WE HAVE
12:31:34PM GRAND OAK TREES ON OUR PROPERTY.
12:31:36PM TO THE WEST, WE HAVE THE 24 TO 30-FOOT TALL STRUCTURE, THE
12:31:39PM SUBJECT -- ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:31:42PM ARECA PALMS WILL GROW TO BE 15 TO 20 FEET GIVEN THE RIGHT
12:31:47PM CONDITIONS, WHICH THEY CAN TOLERATE PARTIAL SHADE, BUT THEY
12:31:51PM CAN'T TOLERATE FULL SHADE.
12:31:53PM I DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
12:31:59PM I'M ASKING THAT YOU REJECT THIS RECOMMENDATION AND -- SO
12:32:11PM THAT THIS STRUCTURE WON'T BE BUILT.
12:32:14PM THANK YOU.
12:32:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:32:15PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:32:16PM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 68?
12:32:19PM OKAY.
12:32:20PM REBUTTAL?
12:32:25PM >> THANK YOU.
12:32:27PM SUSAN JOHNSON VALEZ, AGAIN.
12:32:29PM THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, MR. TIGERT WAS PRESENT FOR ALL
12:32:34PM THE PRIOR HEARINGS.
12:32:35PM PRESENT AT THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT, AND I THINK THE NEED TO
12:32:38PM WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT PLANTINGS WAS AS A
12:32:41PM RESULT OF SOME OF HIS COMMENTS.
12:32:43PM I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS PICTURE UP AGAIN.
12:32:45PM THESE ARE ARECA PALMS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST TODAY.
12:32:48PM THIS IS THEIR COMMON FENCE.
12:32:51PM THIS IS MR. TIGERT'S FENCE HERE.
12:32:55PM THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL BUFFERING.
12:32:58PM IT FAR EXCEEDS THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE.
12:33:02PM AGAIN, WE WOULD ASK -- THIS IS SOMETHING WE WORKED REALLY
12:33:05PM DILIGENTLY ON TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
12:33:09PM WE BELIEVE EVEN AS EVIDENCED BY THE PICTURE THAT IT WILL
12:33:12PM PROVIDE THE OPACITY SO THE STRUCTURE WILL BARELY BE VISIBLE
12:33:16PM BEHIND IT.
12:33:17PM AGAIN, WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
12:33:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:33:19PM ANY QUESTIONS?
12:33:20PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:33:22PM >> SO MOVED.
12:33:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
12:33:24PM MANISCALCO.
12:33:25PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:33:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:33:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:28PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:33:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'VE HEARD THIS CASE, AND I VOTED, I
12:33:39PM BELIEVE, THE FIRST TIME AGAINST IT.
12:33:41PM I'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT SHOWS THE BUILDING AT 24 FEET,
12:33:45PM WHICH IS ALLOWED BY LAW.
12:33:48PM ANYBODY CAN CORRECT ME ANYTIME.
12:33:51PM THAT BUILDING IS ALL THAT IS BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY HERE.
12:33:55PM IT'S ALLOWED BY LAW.
12:33:57PM WHAT THE CASE WAS, I SAW IT THE THIRD OR FOURTH PICTURE, A
12:34:07PM BUILDING ALREADY, A STRUCTURE HERE, AND ANOTHER FLOOR COMING
12:34:11PM HERE, AND THIS FLOOR TO THIS HEIGHT.
12:34:14PM IT'S NOT, IN MY OPINION, AFTER REVIEWING AND SEEING THIS
12:34:17PM OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
12:34:19PM PLANTED, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO HURT THE
12:34:23PM GENTLEMAN'S PROPERTY VALUE AT ALL.
12:34:26PM THAT'S MY FEELING.
12:34:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
12:34:29PM MR. SHELBY.
12:34:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, ON PAGE TWO OF
12:34:34PM WHAT HAS HANDED OUT BY MS. WELLS, YOU HAVE SAMPLE MOTIONS.
12:34:37PM THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS TO EITHER ACCEPT, MODIFY OR REJECT.
12:34:40PM IF YOU WOULD JUST MAKE REFERENCE TO THOSE, THAT WOULD BE
12:34:43PM HELPFUL.
12:34:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:34:44PM ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
12:34:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE TO FIND THIS ITEM.
12:34:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
12:35:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HOPE THIS IS CORRECT.
12:35:04PM IF NOT, PLEASE CORRECT ME.
12:35:05PM IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 70.5121B FLORIDA STATUTE, I MOVE
12:35:12PM TO MODIFY THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE --
12:35:16PM WELL, THAT'S WHY I SAID.
12:35:18PM HAND ME ONE THAT HAS THREE OF THEM.
12:35:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE, MR. MIRANDA -- COUNCILMAN
12:35:24PM MIRANDA, BY WHAT YOU STATED PREVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE YOUR
12:35:27PM MOTION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AS IT WAS
12:35:29PM AUTHORED.
12:35:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF
12:35:34PM THE MAGISTRATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 70.5121A, FLORIDA
12:35:39PM STATUTE AS PERMITTED BY SECTION 70.5119C FLORIDA STATUTE, I
12:35:45PM MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE BY
12:35:49PM SUBMITTED -- SPECIFICALLY THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN NEGOTIATED
12:35:55PM BY THE PETITIONER AND THE CITY AS A RESULT OF THE MEDIATION
12:35:59PM HELD ON APRIL 15th AND AS DEPICTED IN EXHIBIT A TO THE
12:36:04PM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S CORRESPONDENCE BE APPROVED PURSUANT TO
12:36:09PM SECTION 70.5119C FLORIDA STATUTE, PETITIONER, CITY ARE
12:36:14PM PERMITTED TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT AS TO THE PERMISSIBLE
12:36:17PM USE OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE MAGISTRATE ENTERING A
12:36:20PM RECOMMENDATION.
12:36:21PM ANY FACTOR OR ADDITIONAL CITATION YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE, SO
12:36:24PM FORTH, AND SO ON.
12:36:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:36:27PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:36:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:36:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:36:32PM >> NO.
12:36:34PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO,
12:36:39PM CITRO ABSTAINING, AND DINGFELDER ABSENT.
12:36:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND
12:36:44PM MOTIONS.
12:36:45PM I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE AND STAFF FOR THE EXTRA TEN MINUTES
12:36:49PM OR SO THAT WE'RE TAKING.
12:36:51PM REALLY APPRECIATE IT 100%.
12:36:52PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING SIR?
12:36:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:36:58PM GENTLEMEN, THIS MORNING, WE HEARD INFORMATION FROM STAFF
12:37:01PM REGARDING THE MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTION FACILITY ON HENRY
12:37:08PM AVENUE.
12:37:09PM AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXPLORE
12:37:11PM CHANGES, SOLUTION AND/OR REMEDIES TO THE CURRENT CODE
12:37:15PM ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO MARIJUANA DISPENSARY, PRODUCTION
12:37:18PM OF MARIJUANA ON INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES ADJACENT OR
12:37:21PM SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, POLICE AND FIRE FACILITIES,
12:37:23PM SCHOOLS, AND DAY-CARE FACILITIES.
12:37:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
12:37:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
12:37:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT A DATE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT?
12:37:31PM HOW MUCH TIME YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM?
12:37:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY WOULD NEED 30 DAYS, I THINK.
12:37:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS FROM NOW?
12:37:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'RE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
12:37:49PM WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THE END OF OCTOBER.
12:37:50PM LOOKING INTO NOVEMBER.
12:37:52PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
12:37:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A LONG WORKSHOP.
12:38:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE 7th --
12:38:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE FINE.
12:38:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:38:09PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:38:11PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:38:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:38:14PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:38:18PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:38:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY FURTHER AWAY IT WILL BE IN POLK
12:38:27PM COUNTY.
12:38:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS REQUESTED TO GO TO A
12:38:34PM MEETING REGARDING THE ZION CEMETERY ISSUE AT ROBLES PARK
12:38:38PM WITH CONGRESSWOMAN KATHY CASTOR.
12:38:42PM THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING ON.
12:38:44PM ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS CAME FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COUNCIL
12:38:46PM MEMBERS THAT THEY WERE WONDERING WHY HADN'T CITY COUNCIL
12:38:49PM MEMBERS GONE OUT TO ROBLES PARK AND TALK WITH RESIDENTS OR
12:38:54PM LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE.
12:38:56PM I DID ADVISE THE RESIDENTS THAT COUNCIL DID MAKE A MOTION TO
12:39:04PM HAVE THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY TO COME BACK AND GIVE A
12:39:06PM REPORT, ALSO OUR LEGAL STAFF, BUT, OF COURSE, SOMETIMES
12:39:09PM PEOPLE VIEW THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY WHEN THEY WANT
12:39:12PM ACTION AND WANT TO SEE THE CITY COUNCIL THERE.
12:39:17PM THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE MAYOR NOT BEING THERE
12:39:19PM EITHER.
12:39:20PM I DID TELL THE RESIDENTS THAT I WOULD BRING THIS TO COUNCIL
12:39:24PM IN REFERENCE TO POSSIBLY US GOING OUT TO THE FACILITY,
12:39:28PM LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND MEETING WITH THE RESIDENT
12:39:31PM COUNCIL.
12:39:32PM I'LL PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:39:33PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT MAY GO, BUT I WANT THE RESIDENTS TO
12:39:35PM KNOW THAT I GAVE MY COMMITMENT TO BRING THIS TO THE COUNCIL
12:39:38PM IN REFERENCE TO THEIR CONCERNS.
12:39:39PM AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE FELLOW CITY
12:39:43PM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY MARTIN SHELBY TO
12:39:46PM VISIT ROBLES PARK CEMETERY PROPERTY AND DESIGNATED AREAS
12:39:51PM WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITHIN MAYBE 30 TO 40 DAYS.
12:39:55PM >> SECOND.
12:39:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:39:56PM WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT LEGALLY, I ASSUME, IF PROPERLY NOTICED?
12:40:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, ACTUALLY, NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE A DATE
12:40:03PM AND TIME AND A LOCATION.
12:40:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN PICK THAT.
12:40:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN DO THAT AT A FUTURE DATE.
12:40:08PM COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT.
12:40:09PM THAT WILL BE FINE.
12:40:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:40:12PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:40:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:40:14PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:40:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST MOTION, SIR, REFERENCE TO THE ZION,
12:40:24PM AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING THINGS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
12:40:27PM I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL KNOWS EITHER.
12:40:29PM ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION TO
12:40:32PM RESEARCH MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE ZION CEMETERY AND HOW
12:40:35PM THE ROBLES PARK WAS DEVELOPED ON TOP OF THE HUMAN REMAINS OF
12:40:41PM CITIZENS.
12:40:42PM >> SECOND.
12:40:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A REPORT?
12:40:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:40:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE
12:40:50PM THAT REPORT?
12:40:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXACTLY.
12:40:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT WOULD BE A REPORT OR IN PERSON?
12:40:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN PERSON.
12:40:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE TAMPA HOUSING
12:40:58PM AUTHORITY WITH THAT?
12:40:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN.
12:41:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:41:04PM WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT, 60 DAYS?
12:41:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
12:41:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT DATES THEN.
12:41:09PM WE'D HAVE TO GO INTO DECEMBER.
12:41:13PM DECEMBER 5th APPEARS TO BE OKAY.
12:41:15PM IS THAT OKAY, SIR?
12:41:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S FINE.
12:41:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: DECEMBER 5th.
12:41:18PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:41:20PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:41:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:41:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:41:23PM ANYTHING FURTHER, SIR?
12:41:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL DO IT, SIR.
12:41:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:41:28PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:41:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAVE THE RESIDENTS BEEN RELOCATED?
12:41:32PM EVERYBODY STILL THERE.
12:41:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THEY ARE WORKING ON THINGS.
12:41:35PM I BELIEVE TOMORROW OR THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY IN REGARDS TO
12:41:39PM UPDATE.
12:41:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE NOTHING, SIR.
12:41:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:41:42PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:41:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
12:41:45PM COUNCIL REMOVE THE 5G DISCUSSION FROM THE UPCOMING WORKSHOP
12:41:49PM ON SEPTEMBER 26th, 2019.
12:41:53PM AS PERMITTING PROCESS HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE AND PROVIDERS ARE
12:41:56PM NAVIGATING THE SYSTEM IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER.
12:42:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:42:02PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:42:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:42:05PM ANY OPPOSED.
12:42:05PM ANYTHING FURTHER, SIR?
12:42:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING TODAY.
12:42:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:42:08PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:42:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ONE COPY OF
12:42:12PM WHAT I FOUND IN THE ST. PETE TIMES.
12:42:15PM I LOVE TO READ THE STUFF NOBODY ELSE READS.
12:42:19PM I LIKE TO READ ALL THE WANT ADS.
12:42:21PM I FOUND ONE THERE THAT TALKED ABOUT FLORIDA PACE AGENCY, A
12:42:24PM PUBLIC BODY HAVING A MEETING NOVEMBER 1st, AND IF THEY
12:42:27PM COULD COME BACK IN 30 DAYS TO TELL US IF THIS IS A STATEWIDE
12:42:31PM OPERATION THAT THEY ARE DOING.
12:42:33PM THIS CITY DID NOT GET INVOLVED IN PACE.
12:42:37PM THE COUNTY DID.
12:42:38PM WE DID NOT.
12:42:39PM WE CHOSE NOT TO.
12:42:41PM AND THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
12:42:42PM THEY GET LOANS, AND IT'S A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
12:42:48PM THAT MEANS IT GOES ON YOUR TAX BILL.
12:42:50PM AND ANYTIME ANYTHING GOES ON YOUR TAX BILL, YOU'RE LIABLE TO
12:42:54PM LOSE YOUR PROPERTY.
12:42:55PM I'M NOT SAYING YOU WILL, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND I
12:42:57PM CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ON ANYONE.
12:43:00PM THIS IS FOR REPAIR OF ROOFS, AIR CONDITIONING, STUFF OF THAT
12:43:02PM MATTER.
12:43:03PM IN OTHER WORDS.
12:43:03PM THERE'S NO COLLECTION AGENCY THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
12:43:06PM THE PROPERTY IS THERE.
12:43:08PM THEY FILE A LAWSUIT BECAUSE IT'S AD VALOREM TAX DIDN'T PAY.
12:43:14PM THIS IS FOR THE CLERK TO HAVE A COPY AND THE LEGAL
12:43:16PM DEPARTMENT HAVE A COPY.
12:43:19PM OPINION OF ANYTHING WE CAN DO.
12:43:21PM I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY ARE ASKING FOR
12:43:25PM STATEWIDE LAW TO SAY EVERYBODY'S GOT TO DO IT.
12:43:28PM 30 DAYS.
12:43:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU WANTED TO SAY
12:43:39PM SOMETHING.
12:43:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANTED TO GIVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
12:43:42PM CREDIT ON THE PACE ISSUE.
12:43:43PM AS A PREVIOUS COUNCIL, WE'VE ALWAYS OPPOSED IT.
12:43:48PM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN AGAINST IT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY
12:43:51PM MOVED IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
12:43:52PM IF YOU FOLLOW MIKE FASANO IN A NEARBY COUNTY AND HE'S BEEN
12:43:56PM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO PACE.
12:43:59PM IF YOU LOOK AT HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT, HE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT
12:44:02PM DIFFERENT HORROR STORIES AND ISSUES AND WHAT NOT.
12:44:05PM WE CAN ALREADY SEE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:44:08PM AND WHAT WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE AVOIDED HERE WITH THE
12:44:11PM CITY AND WHATNOT.
12:44:12PM THAT WAS IT.
12:44:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:44:14PM THAT WAS A MOTION THAT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A MOTION BY
12:44:19PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:44:19PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:44:23PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
12:44:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
12:44:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:44:26PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:44:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:44:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, JUST IN RESPONSE TO OUR COLLEAGUE,
12:44:34PM MR. GUDES, IF YOU -- OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL CARE ABOUT EAST
12:44:38PM TAMPA, AND AT LEAST I NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
12:44:41PM I TRIED TO GATHER INFORMATION ON MY OWN TO PARTICIPATE IN
12:44:47PM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT.
12:44:48PM IF THERE ARE EVENTS, PROGRAMS OR THINGS YOU THINK WE SHOULD
12:44:51PM GO TO, TO THE EXTENT THAT MR. SHELBY WILL ALLOW YOU, PLEASE
12:44:56PM CIRCULATE IT SO WE'LL KNOW AND CAN ATTEND.
12:44:58PM IN MY DISTRICT, THERE ARE A LOT OF EVENTS GOING ON THAT YOU
12:45:01PM ALL MAY WANT TO ATTEND.
12:45:03PM ONE OF THEM IS AND THE PUBLIC INVITED, TOO, NOVEMBER 24 AT
12:45:07PM 6:00 AT KATE JACKSON PARK.
12:45:09PM THE HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE COME TOGETHER
12:45:13PM AND SPENT $20,000 OF THEIR OWN MONEY TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR
12:45:18PM THEIR AREA.
12:45:19PM I THINK IT'S INDICATIVE OF THE KIND OF PLANS THAT CAN BE
12:45:22PM DONE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GETTING HELP FROM THE
12:45:25PM PLANNING COMMISSION ON.
12:45:26PM IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO OBSERVE THAT LISTEN TO IT.
12:45:29PM I THINK WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER IF WE GO
12:45:33PM THERE, BUT YOU ALL MAY WANT TO ATTEND.
12:45:35PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP, JUST SHOW UP AT KATE JACKSON PARK
12:45:41PM ON THE 24th AT 6.
12:45:43PM ALONG THOSE LINES, ALSO, I'M NOT FOR OR AGAINST THIS, BUT
12:45:44PM I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS ASK US SINCE WE HAD D.O.T.
12:45:48PM PRESENT TO HAVE JOSH FRANK COME BEFORE COUNCIL DURING OUR
12:45:53PM JANUARY 30th, 2020, WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS HIS DESIGN AND
12:45:57PM PLAN TO CONVERT A SECTION OF I-275 TO A BOULEVARD.
12:46:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:46:03PM I FIRST HEARD A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:46:07PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:46:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY 30th WORKSHOP.
12:46:15PM [INAUDIBLE] -- REGARDING CHANGES TO THE SCHEDULING.
12:46:19PM I WANT TO CONFIRM IF WE WANT TO BEGIN STARTING THAT AND
12:46:22PM PERHAPS SET FOR 9:30.
12:46:24PM YOU HAVE A COMMENDATION AT 9 AND WORKSHOP AT 9.
12:46:27PM YOU CAN SET THE NEXT ONE FOR 9:30.
12:46:29PM I BELIEVE YOUR INTENTION IS TO SET A HALF HOUR PER SUBJECT
12:46:32PM MATTER.
12:46:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:46:33PM WELL SAID.
12:46:34PM SHOULD WE DO IT AT 9:30?
12:46:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
12:46:37PM IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
12:46:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WILL BE OUR INSPIRATION.
12:46:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: I PUT IT FAR OUT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE JAMMED
12:46:44PM UP BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
12:46:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:46:45PM THANK YOU.
12:46:46PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:46:47PM DID WE VOTE?
12:46:48PM I'M SORRY.
12:46:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:46:51PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:46:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST THING IS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
12:46:55PM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO OFFER A COMMENDATION TO AMI KIDS
12:46:59PM INC. FOR THEIR 50th YEAR OF GUIDING TROUBLED YOUTH IN A
12:47:02PM POSITIVE, PRODUCTIVE ALTERNATIVES TO PAST BEHAVIOR AND
12:47:05PM ENABLING THEM TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT
12:47:08PM CITY AND DELIVER IT TO THEM IN PERSON.
12:47:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:47:12PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:47:14PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:47:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:47:17PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:47:17PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:47:19PM IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN CITRO, THEN I HAD SOMETHING.
12:47:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:47:24PM HOW COULD I FORGET THIS?
12:47:26PM IT WAS DONE IN SUCH A FASHION THAT I'M HOPING YOU ALL WILL
12:47:32PM FORGIVE ME ON THIS.
12:47:33PM NEW SALEM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, MY CHUMP, THE CHURCH I
12:47:38PM GO TO, WHICH WAS LOCATED ON THE 400 BLOCK OF OREGON AVENUE,
12:47:43PM IS CELEBRATING ITS 113th ANNIVERSARY.
12:47:47PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT A COMMENDATION BE GIVEN TO
12:47:51PM THEM ON WHICHEVER DATE, OFF-SITE COMMENDATION, TO CELEBRATE
12:47:58PM THAT 113th BIRTHDAY.
12:48:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST LET US KNOW THE DATE, IF POSSIBLE.
12:48:03PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:48:05PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:48:07PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:48:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:48:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:48:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, A COUPLE OF THINGS, I MOTIONED FOR
12:48:13PM KAREN CLAY, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE DISABILITY CAUCUS OF
12:48:17PM FLORIDA, TO GIVE US A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE
12:48:22PM DEVASTATING CUTS TO MEDICAID WAIVER AT THE NOVEMBER 7
12:48:26PM REGULAR SESSION COUNCIL.
12:48:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND
12:48:30PM FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:48:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:48:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:48:34PM THIS IS A TIME LIMITED ISSUE SOMETHING GOING BEFORE THE
12:48:37PM COUNTY COMMISSION AS APPLIES TO USF.
12:48:39PM TAMPA INNOVATION TO PROVIDE A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION ON
12:48:43PM EXPLORING THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
12:48:44PM PRIVATE PARTNERS REGARDING AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE STRATEGY FOR
12:48:46PM THE UP TOWN INNOVATION DISTRICT AT THE REGULAR COUNCIL
12:48:50PM SESSION OF OCTOBER 17th.
12:48:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA
12:48:53PM WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:48:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:48:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:48:56PM AND ONE LAST THING, SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE NEWS THAT I
12:48:59PM JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT WAS ON COUNCILMAN GUDES
12:49:08PM WISELY SPOKE ON THE TAMPA HOUSING ISSUE, IT WAS ON MEMORIAL
12:49:10PM PARK.
12:49:11PM I KNOW THE CITY IS WORKING ON THAT.
12:49:13PM THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LEGAL ISSUES THAT GO THERE.
12:49:16PM I JUST WANTED TO STATE MY POSITION ON IT, WHICH IS AS IT
12:49:19PM APPLIES TO THE ACTUAL CEMETERY, I MUST CONFESS THAT BEFORE
12:49:24PM MR. GUZZO, WHO JUST CONTINUES TO DO THESE REMARKABLE STORIES
12:49:28PM THAT JUST BRING IGNORED HISTORY TO LIGHT, THAT BEFORE I HAD
12:49:32PM READ THAT STORY, I'D NEVER BEEN OUT THERE TO THAT CEMETERY.
12:49:34PM OBVIOUSLY, I'VE BEEN TO THE COLLEGE HILL AREA, BUT NEVER
12:49:38PM PARTICULARLY THAT CEMETERY.
12:49:40PM WHAT I SAW OUT THERE WAS JUST AMAZING.
12:49:41PM IT BLOWS YOUR MIND.
12:49:43PM YOU HAVE A LOT OF CEMETERY PLOTS OF INDIVIDUALS, AFRICAN
12:49:47PM AMERICANS WHO FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THEIR COUNTRY BETWEEN
12:49:52PM 1917-1918 AND WORLD WAR I, AND THEY ARE JUST NOT MAINTAINED.
12:49:55PM SO IMMEDIATELY, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON
12:49:59PM IT.
12:50:00PM SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS LEGAL DISPUTES THAT ARE
12:50:03PM HAPPENING.
12:50:03PM THE CITY HAS DONE SOME WORK WITH REGARDS TO MAINTAINING THE
12:50:08PM CEMETERY WHENEVER IT COMES TO LAWN MAINTENANCE AND DIFFERENT
12:50:11PM ISSUES LIKE THAT.
12:50:12PM BUT I THINK THE LARGER ISSUE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS
12:50:17PM COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT TO IMPROVING THAT MEMORIAL, TO
12:50:19PM IMPROVING THAT CEMETERY.
12:50:21PM I'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME LOCAL VETERAN GROUPS AND WE'RE
12:50:24PM GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME
12:50:27PM MEN AND WOMEN POWER OUT THERE TO MAKE THAT PLACE RIGHT,
12:50:33PM BECAUSE IT DEVASTATES THE MIND AND IT REALLY, REALLY TICKS
12:50:36PM ME OFF FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN OUT THERE.
12:50:38PM WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THAT.
12:50:40PM THAT IS AN ISSUE OF RACIAL JUSTICE AND ALSO AN ISSUE OF
12:50:43PM RESPECT FOR OUR VETERANS, ESPECIALLY OUR VETERANS WHO -- I
12:50:46PM MEAN, AGAIN, IT BLOWS THE MIND.
12:50:48PM THIS IS DURING THE TIME WHEN FLORIDA HAD THE HIGHEST PER
12:50:50PM CAPITA RATE OF LYNCHINGS AND HERE WE HAVE THE AFRICAN
12:50:53PM AMERICANS FROM FLORIDA WHO GO OUT THERE, THEY FIGHT, THEY
12:50:57PM DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY, AND WE OWE THEM AT THE VERY LEAST
12:51:02PM TODAY.
12:51:03PM JUST A STATEMENT ON THAT.
12:51:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
12:51:06PM I KNEW MR. ROBINSON PERSONALLY.
12:51:09PM BEING IN THE BUSINESS, WE KNEW HIM.
12:51:10PM WHEN HE FIRST WENT TO THE CITY BECAUSE HE WAS GETTING OLDER
12:51:13PM AND NEEDED HELP.
12:51:14PM YOU COULD SEE HIM OUT THERE SICKLY STILL MOWING THE GRASS
12:51:19PM OUT THERE.
12:51:20PM GOD BLESS HIM.
12:51:22PM YOU'RE RIGHT.
12:51:22PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
12:51:23PM WITH HIM BEING GONE AND THE STORY MR. GUZZO WROTE, THE --
12:51:30PM YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO PURCHASED BURIAL PLOTS OUT THERE
12:51:33PM AND NOW, WHO THEY CONTACT, WHAT DO THEY DO FOR THE PLOTS?
12:51:37PM I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO
12:51:41PM LOOK INTO.
12:51:42PM ALSO ANOTHER CEMETERY AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS AT LAKE AND
12:51:47PM PROBABLY ABOUT 37th, 38th STREET IN THE CORNER THERE.
12:51:52PM SO WE HAVE SEVERAL CEMETERY AREAS IN THE CITY THAT AREN'T
12:51:56PM REALLY MAINTAINED AND KEPT UP AT ALL.
12:51:58PM THEY LOOK HORRIBLE.
12:52:00PM I'M GLAD YOU'RE BRINGING THAT UP AND MEET WITH THE
12:52:02PM ADMINISTRATION TO WORK ON THAT.
12:52:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:52:04PM THANK YOU, SIR.
12:52:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO SPOKE TO LEGAL ABOUT THIS, NOT AN
12:52:13PM EXPERT ON LEGAL ISSUES, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS STATE LAW THAT
12:52:16PM REQUIRES A TRUST FUND.
12:52:17PM EVEN IF WE GOT ALL OF THAT TRUST IN THE CASE, IT WON'T LAST
12:52:21PM VERY LONG FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
12:52:23PM THIS IS A SYSTEMIC ISSUE FOR CITY, BUT ALSO EVERY CITY AND
12:52:28PM GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE.
12:52:30PM I THINK WE HAVE FIVE CEMETERIES NOW, IF WE SUDDENLY TAKE
12:52:35PM OVER ALL OF THEM, IT COULD BE A BIG FISCAL ISSUE.
12:52:38PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE HISTORY, BUT ONE OF THE
12:52:41PM THINGS WE OUGHT TO DO IS TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A
12:52:44PM RESOLUTION THAT WE SHOULD PASS TO ENCOURAGE THE STATE TO
12:52:47PM REGULATE THIS IN A BETTER WAY SO THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH
12:52:52PM THIS SITUATION.
12:52:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, WHEN IT COMES TO THE
12:52:59PM FISCAL ISSUE, WE INQUIRED ON THE ADMINISTRATION LOOKING AT
12:53:04PM WHAT THE ULTIMATE FISCAL DOLLAR WOULD BE.
12:53:08PM THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF LEGAL ISSUES.
12:53:10PM I WANT TO OPINE ON.
12:53:11PM MY ISSUE IS IF THERE'S NO RESPONSIBLE PARTY AS APPLIES TO
12:53:15PM THIS PARTICULAR CEMETERY, THE CITY NEEDS TO PARTNER WITH
12:53:19PM COMMUNITY PARTNERS, LIKE I'M WORKING ON, LOCAL VETERAN
12:53:24PM GROUPS.
12:53:24PM AGAIN, AS IT APPLIES TO THIS PARTICULAR CEMETERY, AFRICAN
12:53:27PM AMERICANS WHO FOUGHT AND WERE KILLED IN WORLD WAR I, WE ALL
12:53:31PM AGREE 7-0, YOU DON'T GET MORE COMPELLING THAN THAT.
12:53:34PM ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS JUST TO FIND A SOLUTION TO GET
12:53:38PM PEOPLE INVOLVED, NOT JUST TO LOOK TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
12:53:40PM NOT JUST TO GO CITY OF TAMPA, LET'S TAKE CARE OF THIS, BUT
12:53:44PM TO GET THE MANY TAMPANIANS AND TAMPEÑOS OUT THERE WHO WANT
12:53:47PM TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT.
12:53:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
12:53:51PM CAN LOOK AT, WE DO HAVE A PERSON WHO HANDLES OUR CEREMONIES
12:53:54PM IN THE CITY, LOOK AT THE ONES THAT ARE DORMANT, THAT AREN'T
12:54:00PM BEING MAINTAINED AND EVEN MEMORIAL PARK PROBABLY AT THIS
12:54:03PM POINT TO WHERE -- MAYBE WE CAN FIND AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR
12:54:06PM THAT CAN MAINTAIN AND ALSO STILL BE ABLE TO CHARGE FOLKS FOR
12:54:10PM BURIALS THERE AT A REASONABLE COST, AND THAT COST CAN BE
12:54:15PM CURED WITHIN ITSELF.
12:54:16PM I LOOK AT THOSE THINGS THAT COME UP IN DISCUSSIONS.
12:54:20PM I THINK THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN.
12:54:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:54:22PM THAT'S IT.
12:54:24PM ANYONE ELSE?
12:54:25PM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:54:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:54:28PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:54:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:54:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:54:31PM COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.
12:54:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.
12:54:33PM [ADJOURNMENT]
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