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Tampa City Council
Thursday, September 26, 2019
9:00 a.m.

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09:02:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THE CITY COUNCIL IS CALLED INTO SESSION.

09:02:27 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

09:02:29 WHO HAS THE INVOCATION?

09:02:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DO.

09:02:31 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:02:34 MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO PRESENT A VERY GOOD FRIEND

09:02:35 OF MINE.

09:02:37 I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR 25 OR MORE YEARS.

09:02:40 ALL ABOUT CHAPLAIN DAVIS.

09:02:42 HE WAS REARED IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:02:45 MARRIED TO FORMER FRIEND OF JAY WILLIAMS FOR 20 YEARS.

09:02:47 HE IS A FATHER AND GRANDFATHER.

09:02:51 HE HAS SERVED THE MINISTRY OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT

09:02:52 FOR 31 YEARS.

09:02:55 HE HAS SERVED IN THE MINISTRY FOR 33 YEARS.

09:03:00 HE HAS RETIRED AFTER 37 AND A HALF YEARS OF SERVICE TO

09:03:02 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS AN INVESTIGATOR FOR THE

09:03:06 MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE AND HE RETIRED IN 2010, BUT

09:03:08 HE NEVER GAVE UP HELPING YOU.

09:03:11 AND I AND PRAYING THAT THINGS GO RIGHT FOR ALL THE

09:03:13 CITIZENS.

09:03:17 CHAPLAIN DAVIS, PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND

09:03:21 REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

09:03:25 >> HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US TO BE

09:03:26 HERE THIS DAY.













09:03:29 WE THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE A PART

09:03:31 OF SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY.

09:03:36 AND WE PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THESE COUNCILMEMBERS AS

09:03:42 THEY DELIBERATE THE ISSUES AND CARES AND ISSUES OF THIS

09:03:43 COMMUNITY.

09:03:45 AS WE STRIVE TO MAKE THIS ONE OF THE GREAT CITIES IN

09:03:46 THIS COUNTRY.

09:03:48 WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS US WITH THE STRENGTH AND THE

09:03:52 WISDOM TO SURRENDER OURSELVES AND OUR WILL AND OUR

09:03:55 THOUGHTS TO YOU THAT YOU MIGHT LEAD THEM AND GUIDE THEM

09:03:59 THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THESE CONCERNS.

09:04:03 WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN

09:04:07 THIS COMMUNITY TO THRIVE AND TO BE PROSPEROUS AS WE

09:04:08 CONTINUE THIS JOURNEY.

09:04:12 BRING US INTO ONENESS OF BODY, MIND AND SPIRIT THAT WE

09:04:15 MIGHT HEAR AND DEAL WITH THE CONCERNS AND CARES OF THIS

09:04:18 COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT THE VERY BEST THAT IT CAN BE.

09:04:21 WE ASK THESE IN ALL BLESSINGS IN YOUR SON JESUS'S NAME,

09:04:22 WE PRAY.

09:04:24 AMEN.

09:04:25 >> AMEN.

09:04:37 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:04:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL PLEASE.

09:04:46 AND PASTOR, COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

09:04:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PASTOR DAVIS, LET ME SAY, MY FRIEND,













09:04:56 I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG TIME, AND YOUR WORK IS

09:04:58 IMPECCABLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

09:05:01 I APPRECIATE WHEN CITIZENS CALL YOU, YOU COME RUNNING

09:05:04 IN OUR EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY THAT YOU LIVE IN CLOSE BY

09:05:04 ME.

09:05:07 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:05:08 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:05:09 >> BLESS YOU.

09:05:10 IT'S AN HONOR.

09:05:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:05:14 NEXT, WE MOVE TO POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.

09:05:16 COUNCILMAN -- YES, MA'AM.

09:05:17 I APOLOGIZE.

09:05:19 GO AHEAD.

09:05:20 >> DINGFELDER.

09:05:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

09:05:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:05:28 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:05:29 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:05:31 NEXT WE MOVE TO POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.

09:05:35 COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

09:05:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:05:47 CHAIRMAN VIERA AND THE REST OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS, IT

09:05:52 IS ALWAYS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE OFFICER OF THE

09:05:53 MONTH.













09:05:55 BUT I ALWAYS HAVE TO SAY THIS.

09:05:58 IF THE COMMUNITY WISHES TO SEE WHAT THESE BRAVE WOMEN

09:06:07 AND MEN DO EACH AND EVERY DAY, I SUGGEST THAT YOU GO TO

09:06:10 THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:06:12 THERE YOU WILL EXPERIENCE WHAT THEY DO.

09:06:16 YOU WILL JUST BE SCRATCHING THE SURFACE, LADIES AND

09:06:16 GENTLEMEN.

09:06:19 BUT YOU WILL SEE WHAT THESE BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN PUT

09:06:22 THEMSELVES THROUGH EACH AND EVERY DAY TO HELP PROTECT

09:06:24 US AND KEEP US SAFE.

09:06:27 CHIEF DUGAN IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY

09:06:30 EVEN MORE SPECIAL TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS OFFICER IS

09:06:33 GETTING THIS GREAT COMMENDATION.

09:06:35 IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

09:06:40 >> MORNING COUNCIL, DEPUTY CHIEF LEE BURKA.

09:06:43 SOME PEOPLE SAY WHEN I PUT ON THE GLASSES I RESEMBLE

09:06:47 CHIEF DUGAN, JUST A LITTLE BIT.

09:06:51 I AM HAPPY TO SPEAK ON CORPORAL SHAWN KRUEGER.

09:06:54 I HAVE OVER IN THEM TWO DECADES AND WORKED WITH HIM ON

09:06:56 THE PLAINCLOTHES SQUAD.

09:06:59 HE WAS A LEADER THEN AND EVEN MORE OF A LEADER NOW.

09:07:03 I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS HE DID THIS PAST SUMMER

09:07:04 TO EARN HIS RECOGNITION.

09:07:08 A SENIOR CORPORATE CORPORAL WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF

09:07:09 EXPERIENCE.













09:07:12 A.EXCELLENT WORK ETHIC AND A GREAT EXAMPLE TO HIS

09:07:14 OFFICERS AND SUPERVISORS.

09:07:17 SO DURING THIS LAST SUMMER, HE WAS TASKED WITH SEVERAL

09:07:21 SUMMER INITIATIVES DUE TO RISING CRIME AND ADDRESS

09:07:24 SEVERAL QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

09:07:25 WHICH HE SERVED.

09:07:27 HIS FIRST SUMMER INITIATIVE DEVELOPED WAS TO PREVENT

09:07:31 CRIME, REDUCE JUVENILE DELINQUENCY AND ENSURE THE PARKS

09:07:33 WERE A GREAT PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO USE.

09:07:37 HIS INITIATIVE WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND CERTAINLY MADE

09:07:39 OUR CITIES MUCH SAFER.

09:07:42 THE SECOND INITIATIVE, ADOPT A BLOCK THAT ADDRESSED

09:07:49 QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES IN DESIGNATED AREAS AND MADE A

09:07:50 DIFFERENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

09:07:54 HIS THIRD ISSUE WAS CORRIDORS ON NEBRASKA, FLORIDA

09:08:00 AVENUE AND TO ADDRESS UNSIGHTLY AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS.

09:08:03 HE WORKED CLOSELY WITH OTHER PRIVATE PARTNERS AND OTHER

09:08:06 GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND HE LED A TEAM OF OFFICERS TO

09:08:08 CORRECT AND ADDRESS MANY OF THESE PROBLEMS TO IMPROVE

09:08:11 THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

09:08:14 BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP, THESE PROJECTS WERE

09:08:16 EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL.

09:08:20 WE RECEIVED PRAISE FROM CITIZENS THAT LIVED IN THE

09:08:23 AREA, BUSINESS OWNERS AND OTHER OFFICERS.

09:08:26 IN ADDITION TO THESE PROJECTS, HE CONTINUED HIS NORMAL













09:08:29 DUTY AS PATROL CORPORAL.

09:08:32 HE HAS EXHIBITED AND MAINTAINED A VERY STRONG WORK

09:08:36 ETHIC AND REFLECTS A POSITIVE ATTITUDE, STANDS OUT AS A

09:08:39 LEADER AND AN EXAMPLE FOR OFFICERS AND SUPERVISORS.

09:08:41 IN RECOGNITION TO HIS SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP THAT LED

09:08:45 TO A SUCCESSFUL SUMMER IN DISTRICT TWO, CORPORAL SHAWN

09:08:49 KRUEGER HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE TAMPA POLICE OFFICER

09:08:52 OF THE MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER 2019.

09:09:03 [APPLAUSE]

09:09:06 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, APRIL LARSON WITH THE

09:09:06 PBA.

09:09:09 I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS EVERY

09:09:10 MONTH FOR OUR OFFICERS.

09:09:13 IT IS AMAZING, AND WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

09:09:16 AND I WANT TO SAY I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH

09:09:20 SHAWN IN THE PAST, AND HE IS A TERRIFIC COP AND EVEN

09:09:21 BETTER PERSON.

09:09:23 CONGRATULATIONS, SHAWN.

09:09:26 [APPLAUSE]

09:09:29 >> COUNCIL, MIKE MCARTHUR.

09:09:32 OFFICER, CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL-DONE.

09:09:34 WELL DESERVED.

09:09:40 ON BEHALF OF STEPP'S TOWING, A $50 BASS PRO CARD AND A

09:09:42 NIGHT OFF IN OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE.

09:09:44 TAKE THE NIGHT OFF AND ENJOY IT.













09:09:45 [APPLAUSE]

09:09:49 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, DUSTIN PORTILLA,

09:09:50 MCDONALD'S RESTAURANTS.

09:09:52 MAN, YOU ARE BUSY.

09:09:54 I AM SURPRISED YOU ARE EVEN HERE.

09:09:57 WE IN COMMUNITY RELATIONS, OUR JOB IS TO BRIDGE FROM

09:09:59 COMMUNITY TO OUR COMPANY.

09:10:01 AND YOU ARE DOING THAT EVERY DAY WITH THESE DIFFERENT

09:10:02 INITIATIVES.

09:10:03 WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

09:10:07 BY THE WAY, WE HAVE COFFEE WITH A COP OCTOBER 2.

09:10:09 WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF YOU THERE.

09:10:11 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.

09:10:14 HERE ARE SOME MCGOODIES FOR YOU.

09:10:15 ENJOY.

09:10:16 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:10:18 THANKS AGAIN.

09:10:21 [APPLAUSE]

09:10:23 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:10:25 BILL CARSON, BILL CURRIE FORD.

09:10:28 WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU A BRAND-NEW CUSTOMIZED

09:10:30 MUSTANG.

09:10:32 [LAUGHTER]

09:10:34 [APPLAUSE]

09:10:37 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.













09:10:39 MARY LOU BAILEY.

09:10:43 ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA AT LOWRY PARK, WE WANT TO THANK

09:10:46 YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE DOING TO

09:10:47 MAKE THIS CITY GREAT.

09:10:50 I AM PRESENTING WITH YOU A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP TO ZOO

09:10:50 TAMPA.

09:10:54 GOOD FOR A YEAR FOR YOUR FAMILY AND A GUEST AND

09:10:57 ADMISSION TO SEASONAL EVENTS LIKE CREATURES OF THE

09:10:59 NIGHT FOR HALLOWEEN.

09:11:02 ENJOY IT IN GOOD HEALTH AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT

09:11:03 YOU DO.

09:11:06 [APPLAUSE]

09:11:07 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

09:11:11 ALICE SANTANA FROM THE STRAZ CENTER.

09:11:14 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SERVICE YOU DO ON BEHALF OF US.

09:11:17 OPENING NIGHT TICKETS FOR "CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE

09:11:19 FACTORY."

09:11:20 ENJOY.

09:11:20 [APPLAUSE]

09:11:25 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CARLOS RAMOS WITH TAMPA

09:11:27 HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.

09:11:30 ON BEHALF OF US HERE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND A

09:11:35 $50 GIFT CARD TO APPLEBEE'S AND SOME GOODIES.

09:11:40 [APPLAUSE]

09:11:42 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.













09:11:45 PETE BRADLEY, BUSCH GARDENS ARE TAMPA.

09:11:47 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT

09:11:48 AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

09:11:50 A WORTHWHILE CAUSE AND ABOVE ALL, THANK YOU FOR

09:11:53 ALLOWING BUSCH GARDENS TO BE A PART OF IT.

09:11:56 I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW SHAWN FOR A LONG TIME.

09:11:59 AS IT HAS BEEN SAID EARLIER THIS MORNING, HE IS A

09:12:02 TERRIFIC COP, A GREAT LEADER, BUT A BETTER PERSON.

09:12:05 ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, FOUR TICKETS TO OUR PARK,

09:12:06 AND IT'S A PLEASURE.

09:12:12 [APPLAUSE]

09:12:16 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BRIAN WITH THE TAMPA BAY

09:12:16 BUCCANEERS.

09:12:19 CORPORAL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AS WELL

09:12:20 YOUR FAMILY.

09:12:23 WE HAVE A TRADITION OUT AT ONE BUC FOR FOLKS THAT GO

09:12:25 OVER AND ABOVE WITH A GAME BALL.

09:12:29 BASED ON YOUR HISTORY, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU

09:12:30 THAT ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.

09:12:33 [APPLAUSE]

09:12:37 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MICHAEL KILGORE WITH THE

09:12:38 COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP.

09:12:42 SELL OPERATING A 115TH ANNIVERSARY TO GIVE YOU $115

09:12:44 GIFT CARD TO ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS.

09:12:48 [APPLAUSE]













09:12:50 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:12:51 TAMPA THEATRE.

09:12:53 CORPORAL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE IN OUR

09:12:55 COMMUNITY.

09:12:59 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE I AM HONORED TO GIFT YOU A

09:13:00 MEMBERSHIP WITH CANDY.

09:13:02 YOU CAN COME ANY TIME.

09:13:02 THANK YOU.

09:13:06 [APPLAUSE]

09:13:08 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:13:13 STEVE STICKILY REPRESENTING CROCUS TOWING, EMPLOYEES

09:13:15 260 PEOPLE.

09:13:21 ON BEHALF OF CROCUS TOWING AND GARDEN FLEET SERVICES WE

09:13:22 APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US.

09:13:26 ANOTHER TOKEN OF APPRECIATION TO BASS PRO SHOPS.

09:13:28 MATCH IT WITH THE OTHER ONE.

09:13:30 [APPLAUSE]

09:13:30 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:13:33 HOW ARE YOU DOING, SIR?

09:13:34 LAST BUT NOT LEAST.

09:13:37 WE HAVE A FEW THINGS FOR YOU HERE.

09:13:41 STEVE MICHELINI, ON BEHALF OF PRESTIGE PORTRAITS, A

09:13:44 GIFT PACKAGE TO HAVE YOUR PORTRAIT DONE.

09:13:49 ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, ENJOY YOURSELF

09:13:50 FOR LUNCH AND DINNER.













09:13:51 GO WORK OUT AT THE Y.

09:13:54 A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO GO OVER THERE.

09:14:02 ON BEHALF OF AQUA RESTAURANT AT THE WESTIN ON COURTNEY

09:14:08 CAMPBELL, A GIFT CERTIFICATE LUNCH AND DINNER, FORBICI,

09:14:10 ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.

09:14:14 A BRAND-NEW RESTAURANT IN HYDE PARK AND RESTAURANT

09:14:16 ALONG SOUTH HOWARD.

09:14:17 GO HAVE FUN.

09:14:19 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:14:25 [APPLAUSE]

09:14:28 >> WELL, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

09:14:31 I HAVE BEEN WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT 25 YEARS.

09:14:34 AND THIS IS A VERY, VERY PROUD MOMENT.

09:14:36 I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL.

09:14:38 I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

09:14:40 I MEAN THAT IS JUST MORE THAN GRACIOUS.

09:14:42 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

09:14:45 I WANT TO THANK MY WIFE WHO IS HERE TO JOIN ME.

09:14:48 BUT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE A TEAM, YOU KNOW.

09:14:51 I DIDN'T DO ALL THESE THINGS BY MYSELF, YOU KNOW.

09:14:52 WE WORK TOGETHER.

09:14:56 AND THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT -- ON MY SQUAD AND

09:14:58 THE PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH ME THAT GOT THESE THINGS

09:14:59 ACCOMPLISHED.

09:15:02 BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY AND IT IS













09:15:04 GREATLY APPRECIATED.

09:15:06 THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND

09:15:07 EVERYBODY THAT SUPPORTED US.

09:15:08 THANK YOU.

09:15:13 [APPLAUSE]

09:15:15 >> CORPORAL, DON'T GO AWAY.

09:15:19 ON BEHALF THE CHAIRMAN, LUIS VIERA AND THE REST OF THE

09:15:22 CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE HONORED TO PRESENT YOU THIS

09:15:25 COMMENDATION FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.

09:15:27 IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THIS

09:15:29 PICTURE?

09:15:33 >> MY WIFE.

09:15:35 >> I AM IN THE MIDDLE?

09:15:37 >> YES, YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

09:15:39 >> HERE, THIS IS YOURS.

09:15:43 YOU HOLD THIS.

09:15:48 >> ARE WE GOOD?

09:15:50 >> CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

09:15:52 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:15:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:16:00 AND SIR, BEFORE -- BEFORE YOU GO, COUNCILMAN -- GUDES.

09:16:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SITTING HERE AND COUNCILMAN

09:16:06 DINGFELDER LEANS OVER, DO YOU KNOW THAT GUY?

09:16:08 YEAH, I KNOW THAT GUY.

09:16:09 I WORK WITH THAT GUY.













09:16:13 ALWAYS GOOD WHEN A FRIEND, COLLEAGUE, MOVES TO THE NEXT

09:16:16 LEVEL, AND TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY TO GET THE OFFICER OF

09:16:21 THE MONTH AWARD IS REALLY -- REALLY AN EXPLOSION

09:16:26 BECAUSE SOMEBODY WHO I KNOW WHO GOT A GOOD OL' AWARD.

09:16:30 I GOT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I KNOW THAT FEELING.

09:16:32 AND THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE YOU THE ACCOLADES.

09:16:35 I WANT TO SAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

09:16:36 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

09:16:38 THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:16:40 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

09:16:43 I ALWAYS THINK UP HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE ALWAYS

09:16:46 HAVE A DUTY TO DO THINGS AND CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A WAY

09:16:49 THAT REALLY IS RESPECTFUL OF THE WORK THAT OUR FIRST

09:16:51 RESPONDERS DO.

09:16:53 POLICE OFFICERS, FIRE FIGHTERS, ET CETERA.

09:16:53 BECAUSE WE ARE HERE.

09:16:56 WE ARE HERE TO MAKE YOU GUYS PROUD AND TO SERVE THE

09:16:59 COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND PUT

09:17:03 YOURSELVES FIRST IN HARM'S WAY AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE

09:17:04 THAT.

09:17:04 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:17:05 >> THANK YOU.

09:17:12 [APPLAUSE]

09:17:15 >> CAN I GET SOMEONE IN THE BOOTH TO PULL UP THIS

09:17:21 PHOTOGRAPH THAT IS ON THE -- ON THE ELMO PLEASE?













09:17:21 >> OH, BOY.

09:17:23 DON'T GET ME STARTED.

09:17:25 DON'T GET ME STARTED.

09:17:27 [ LAUGHTER ]

09:17:29 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY AND --

09:17:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MAY NOT -- JUST KIDDING.

09:17:35 >> I NEED TO PUBLICLY THANK TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS

09:17:36 PICTURE.

09:17:40 ALTHOUGH THIS WILL BE IN PINELLAS COUNTY, WE WENT

09:17:44 THROUGH THE RIGOROUS TRAINING OF A FIRE SCHOOL.

09:17:48 WE WENT THROUGH A BURNING BUILDING, WE RESUSCITATED

09:17:53 SOMEONE, WE EVEN CUT SOMEONE OUT OF A CAR WITH THE JAWS

09:17:55 OF LIFE.

09:17:58 HOWEVER, THEY TOOK OUR BLOOD PRESSURE TO MAKE SURE WE

09:18:03 COULD WITHSTAND THE RIGORS OF THIS SCHOOL.

09:18:06 MINE WAS WAY, WAY ABOVE WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND TWO MEN

09:18:10 IN THIS PICTURE, MR. GRECO AND COUNCILMAN GUDES,

09:18:13 BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT

09:18:14 IT.

09:18:17 AND I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF THESE MEN FOR URGING ME TO

09:18:21 GO TO THE DOCTOR AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

09:18:22 AND I HAVE.

09:18:24 AND MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS UNDER CONTROL.

09:18:27 SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC, WOMEN, IF YOU

09:18:31 WANT TO SEE YOUR YOUNG SONS GROW UP TO BE LAWYERS, TO













09:18:35 BE COUNCILMEN, TO DANCE AT THEIR WEDDING, MAKE SURE

09:18:37 YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IS IN CHECK.

09:18:42 GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR DAUGHTERS GROW UP TO

09:18:45 BE PROFESSIONAL SOCCER PLAYERS OR TO BE THE MAYOR OF

09:18:49 THIS GREAT CITY, MAKE SURE YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IS IN

09:18:49 CHECK.

09:18:52 THANK YOU, MR. COUNCILMAN FOR THAT.

09:18:54 THANK YOU TO THE FIRE FIGHTERS, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU

09:18:55 DO.

09:18:58 AND I URGE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SEE WHAT OUR FIRE

09:19:01 RESCUE DOES, TAMPA HAS A CITIZENS ADVISORY -- EXCUSE

09:19:03 ME, A CITIZEN FIRE RESCUE SCHOOL.

09:19:06 I URGE YOU TO GO TO IT.

09:19:10 LET'S GET TO IT THE FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.

09:19:16 CHIEF LO CI CE RO WHO IS OUR HONORARY.

09:19:17 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.

09:19:19 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.

09:19:22 NICK LOCICERO, FIRE CHIEF CITY OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.

09:19:29 WE ARE HERE TO HONOR DRIVER ENGINEER RYAN BURKETT AS

09:19:31 FIRE FIGHTER OF THE FIRST QUARTER.

09:19:35 HE BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH FIRE RESCUE IN 2008.

09:19:36 HE FOLLOWED A FAMILY LEGACY.

09:19:40 HIS FATHER SITTING HERE TODAY ALONG WITH HIS MOTHER AND

09:19:43 WIFE TO SUPPORT HIM IN HAD ENDEAVOR.

09:19:45 HIS FATHER IS THE REASON HE PURSUED THIS CAREER.













09:19:48 HE EXHIBITED EARLY ON THE PASSION, DEDICATION THAT IS

09:19:51 EXPECTED OF A CITY OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTER AND THE LONG

09:19:53 HISTORY THAT GOES WITH.

09:19:56 HE WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF PARAMEDIC.

09:20:01 NO EASY TASK AND HAS BEEN ASSIGNED AT SEVERAL BUS HEY

09:20:03 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

09:20:06 HE WAS ASSIGNED WHEN PROMOTED TO DRIVER ENGINEER.

09:20:08 ASSIGNED TO ENGINE 18.

09:20:14 AND CURRENTLY, MOST CURRENTLY, ASSIGNED TO TRUCK 13 IN

09:20:17 NORTH TAMPA, BUSCH GARDENS AREA.

09:20:21 AS WE KNOW TWO BUSY AREAS AND CONSISTENTLY

09:20:26 DRIVER-ENGINEER BURKETT RISEN TO THE CHALLENGE AND

09:20:31 PERFORMED HIS DUTY WITH THE UPMOST DILIGENCE AND TASK

09:20:33 EVERY DAY FOR UPMOST PERFORMANCE.

09:20:37 HE WORKS TIRELESSLY AROUND THE STATION WITH EQUIPMENT

09:20:39 AND MAKES SURE IT IS TOP-NOTCH.

09:20:42 IN MANY INSTANCES HE TAKES THE CONSIDERATION OF DOING

09:20:45 THINGS OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET TO MAKE IT WORK AND AT HIS

09:20:46 OWN COST.

09:20:49 BUT IT GOES BEYOND -- ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR PATIENTS

09:20:52 EVERY SINGLE DAY AND HE HAS CERTAINLY KEPT UP HIS

09:20:54 MEDICAL SKILLS.

09:20:57 IN PARTICULAR, ON MONDAY, AUGUST 19, DRIVER-ENGINEER

09:21:02 BURKETT RECEIVED A FRANTIC PHONE CALL FROM HIS MOTHER

09:21:05 AND STATED TO HIM THAT HIS FATHER SUFFERED A MEDICAL













09:21:08 EMERGENCY, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR EVER.

09:21:11 HE WAS JUST AROUND THE CORNER AND HE RESPONDED.

09:21:13 WHEN WE GOT TO THE CALL AT THE RESIDENCE, HE FOUND HIS

09:21:16 FATHER IN CARDIAC ARREST.

09:21:22 HE PERFORMED CPR AND WAS ABLE TO GET HIM TO THE LEVEL

09:21:26 AS 911 ARRIVED TO ASSIST 911 IN THE TRANSFER OF CARE.

09:21:30 I WOULD BE REMISS -- THIS HAPPENED IN PINELLAS COUNTY,

09:21:33 I WOULD BE REMISS TO SAY OUR THANKS GOES TO ST. PETE

09:21:37 FIRE RESCUE FOR THEIR CONTINUED CARE ON SCENE.

09:21:41 THEY WERE ABLE TO SHOCK HIS FATHER BACK INTO A RHYTHM

09:21:45 AND WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE HE SITS THERE

09:21:47 TODAY RECOVERED.

09:21:47 [APPLAUSE]

09:22:00 WHILE THIS IS A PRIMARY INCIDENT THAT SHOWS THE

09:22:02 RESPONSIBILITY, TECHNICAL EFFICIENCY OF

09:22:08 DRIVER-ENGINEER BURKETT, NOT THE ONLY INCIDENT IN WHICH

09:22:13 HE EXCELS AND PERFORMS AND HE DOES THIS TASK FOR THE

09:22:16 CITIZENS OF TAMPA EACH AND EVERY DAY HE IS ASSIGNED FOR

09:22:17 SHIFT WORK.

09:22:23 FOR THESE REASONS, DRIVER-ENGINEER BURKETT OF FIRE

09:22:28 FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.

09:22:29 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:22:35 [APPLAUSE]

09:22:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:22:38 CHAIRMAN OF THE AWARDS REVIEW BOARD.













09:22:43 ON BEHALF THE AWARDS REVIEW BOARD, CONGRATULATIONS

09:22:47 DRIVER BURKETT OF WINNING THIS HONOR.

09:22:50 ON BEHALF OF WATER STREET, WE ARE PRESENTING HIM A

09:22:55 ONE-NIGHT STAY OF THE EVENT COMING UP IN FEW WEEKS.

09:22:58 ON A PERSONAL NOTE, CAPTAIN BURKETT WAS ONE OF MY

09:23:01 CAPTAINS WHEN I WAS A FIRE FIGHTER COMING UP IN WEST

09:23:03 TAMPA.

09:23:08 THIS -- I REACHED OUT TO CAPTAIN BURKETT AND SAID HOW

09:23:08 ARE YOU DOING.

09:23:12 HE SAID I AM DOING GREAT AND RIBS HURT A BIT A

09:23:14 TESTAMENT TO THE CPR HIS SON PROVIDED TO HIM.

09:23:18 WE THANK YOU FOR THAT AND CONGRATULATIONS.

09:23:20 [APPLAUSE]

09:23:21 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:23:25 ANDREW CARTER, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754.

09:23:28 WE COME YOU ARE QUARTERLY TO SEE WHAT OUR FIRE FIGHTERS

09:23:31 AND PARAMEDICS DO ON AND OFF OF DUTY.

09:23:33 THIS WAS NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING.

09:23:34 I WILL KEEP IT SHORT, SWEET.

09:23:36 I WILL ASK HIS FATHER TO PRESENT HIM WITH THE PLAQUE

09:23:40 FOR FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.

09:23:49 [APPLAUSE]

09:23:53 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, STEP'S TOWING SERVICE.

09:23:54 GREAT STORY.

09:23:57 CONGRATULATIONS, JOB WELL-DONE.













09:24:04 ON BEHALF OF STEP TOWING A BASS TOW SERVICE AND OUR

09:24:07 COMPANY LIMOUSINE.

09:24:10 TAKE YOUR FATHER AND ENJOY IT AND TAKE SOME TIME OFF.

09:24:10 [APPLAUSE]

09:24:16 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CARLOS RAMOS WITH THE TAMPA

09:24:18 HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.

09:24:21 ON BEHALF FROM THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY TO YOUR

09:24:25 COMMITMENT TO FAMILY AND COMMUNITY AND HEROISM, WE WANT

09:24:29 TO AWARD YOU THIS GOODY BAG WITH A $50 GIFT CARD TO

09:24:33 APPLEBEE'S AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

09:24:34 [APPLAUSE]

09:24:38 >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL, MICHAEL KILGORE,

09:24:43 COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP, HALF OF THE GONZMART GROUP.

09:24:50 EVEN THOUGH WE TURNED 115, WE WILL BY YOU $115 GIFT

09:24:51 CARD.

09:24:51 [APPLAUSE]

09:24:54 >> BRIAN FORD, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.

09:24:57 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AND YOUR SERVICE

09:24:59 AND ALL THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE HERE IS A TESTAMENT OF WHO

09:25:01 YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO.

09:25:04 SO ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, I WOULD LIKE

09:25:07 TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS GAME BALL FOR GOING OVER AND

09:25:08 ABOVE.

09:25:10 >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

09:25:13 [APPLAUSE]













09:25:16 >> GOOD MORNING, MARY LOU BAILEY AGAIN.

09:25:19 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU AND PRESENT TO YOU ON

09:25:22 BEHALF OF THE VOLUNTEERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF

09:25:24 ZOO TAMPA FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.

09:25:26 GOOD FOR A YEAR FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND INCLUDES

09:25:29 ACCESS TO OUR SPECIAL EVENT LIKE OUR HALLOWEEN ONE

09:25:29 COMING UP.

09:25:34 I WANTED FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO SAY THANK YOU

09:25:36 FOR TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

09:25:39 AND I AM GLAD YOUR DAD IS STILL WITH US.

09:25:40 [APPLAUSE]

09:25:43 >> HI, CITY COUNCIL.

09:25:43 FIRE FIGHTER.

09:25:44 NICE TO SEE YOU.

09:25:50 DUSTIN PORTILLO WITH CASPER COMPANY, MCDONALD'S.

09:25:50 HI, DAD.

09:25:52 THAT IS PROBABLY NICE TO HEAR, RIGHT.

09:25:54 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

09:25:57 YOU GUYS ARE INCREDIBLE PUTTING YOUR LIVES ON THE LINE

09:26:00 HELPING HIM, HELPING YOUR MOM, HELPING YOUR FAMILY.

09:26:03 WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS TO DO.

09:26:06 YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE BIT OF GOODIES IN HERE FROM ALL

09:26:09 US AT CASPER AND OUR 4500 EMPLOYEES.

09:26:11 THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.

09:26:13 [APPLAUSE]













09:26:17 >> JIM CARSON, BILL CURRIE FORD.

09:26:20 I WISH I KNEW YOU WHEN I HAD MY HEART ATTACK.

09:26:23 MAY NOT HAVE HAD OPEN-HEART SURGERY THE WAY I DID.

09:26:28 ON BEHALF OF THE CURRIE FAMILY PRESENT YOU WITH A

09:26:29 BRAND-NEW CUSTOMIZED MUSTANG.

09:26:30 THANK YOU.

09:26:32 [APPLAUSE]

09:26:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, PETE, BUSCH GARDENS AGAIN.

09:26:38 FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO

09:26:42 ON A DAILY BASIS, GOOD TO SEE NOT ONLY IN FIRE BUT IN

09:26:45 POLICE LEGACY, I LOVE TO SEE THE LEGACY CARRIED ON.

09:26:50 AND YOU ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT EXAMPLE.

09:26:54 THE FATHER AND THEORY AND THIS MEMORY WILL NEVER GO

09:26:56 AWAY FOR YOU, AND I AM GLAD YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

09:26:59 ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, PRESENT WITH YOU FOUR

09:27:01 TICKETS TO OUR PARK TO ENJOY.

09:27:02 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

09:27:04 >> I APPRECIATE IT.

09:27:05 [APPLAUSE]

09:27:06 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:27:10 STEVE STICKILY REPRESENTING CROCUS TOWING AND FLEET

09:27:11 SERVICES.

09:27:13 CONGRATULATIONS ON WHAT YOU DID.

09:27:17 THAT IS BEYOND BELIEVABLE WHAT YOU DID FOR YOUR DAD.

09:27:18 IT IS TOUCHING.













09:27:19 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:27:21 AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

09:27:22 ENJOY YOURSELF.

09:27:22 >> THANK YOU.

09:27:26 [APPLAUSE]

09:27:30 >> ALICE SANTANA AND ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER,

09:27:33 OPENING NIGHT TICKETS TO "CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE

09:27:34 FACTORY."

09:27:37 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

09:27:39 [APPLAUSE]

09:27:40 >> ONE MORE?

09:27:43 OH, TWO MORE.

09:27:44 >> TAMPA THEATRE.

09:27:45 WHAT A BEAUTIFUL STORY.

09:27:47 IT GIVES ME GOOSE BUMPS.

09:27:51 I AM HONORED ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE TO GIVE YOU A

09:27:54 GIFT OF A MEMBERSHIP SO YOU, YOUR WIFE AND DAD CAN COME

09:27:55 VISIT US.

09:27:56 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:28:00 [APPLAUSE]

09:28:01 >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.

09:28:02 HOW ARE YOU?

09:28:03 >> GOOD.

09:28:05 >> SHOWS TRAINING PAYS OFF, RIGHT.

09:28:09 AND THAT'S WHY SO MANY OF YOU ARE HEROES EVERY DAY AT













09:28:09 YOUR STATIONS.

09:28:12 AND THAT INCLUDES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

09:28:14 WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

09:28:20 ON BEHALF OF STEVE MICHELINI -- ON BEHALF OF YUMMY

09:28:25 HOUSE, A GIFT CERTIFICATE AND ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.

09:28:27 THE METROPOLITAN Y AND WORK OUT A LITTLE BIT.

09:28:31 ON BEHALF OF THE AQUA RESTAURANT AT THE WESTIN ON

09:28:35 COURTNEY CAMPBELL, GO AND ENJOY YOURSELF FOR LUNCH AND

09:28:35 DINNER.

09:28:39 ON THE CHEECH'S RESTAURANT GROUP BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND

09:28:42 DINNER ANY OF THEIR PLACES ON HOWARD.

09:28:43 PRESTIGE PORTRAITS.

09:28:47 HAVE YOUR FAMILY PORTRAITS TAKEN, AND ON BEHALF OF

09:28:51 FORBICI, A NEW RESTAURANT IN HYDE PARK.

09:28:53 ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.

09:28:54 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:28:56 DON'T EAT TOO MUCH.

09:28:58 STAY HEALTHY.

09:28:59 KEEP YOUR DAD WELL.

09:29:04 THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR WHAT YOU DO.

09:29:06 [APPLAUSE]

09:29:08 >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ALL DO YOU.

09:29:11 ALL DO YOU TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

09:29:17 SO ON BEHALF OF OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. LUIS VIERA.

09:29:22 COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA AND THE REST OF THE COUNCILMEN.













09:29:24 I AM HONORED TO PRESENT YOU WITH COMMENDATION FOR FIRE

09:29:27 FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER FOR THE MONTH -- EXCUSE ME, FOR

09:29:28 SEPTEMBER 2019.

09:29:30 CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOU.

09:29:32 A QUICK PICTURE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE

09:29:40 BEHIND ME YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE.

09:29:43 LECTERN IS ALL YOURS.

09:29:43 >> ALL RIGHT.

09:29:44 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

09:29:49 AND THANK YOU FOR THE ACCOLADES AND GIFTS THAT I HAVE

09:29:50 BEEN BESTOWED HERE.

09:29:53 I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING MY FAMILY AND ME HERE THIS

09:30:00 MORNING.

09:30:04 CAN YOU -- I AM -- I AM SORRY.

09:30:08 I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ IT.

09:30:09 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

09:30:12 I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING MY FAMILY AND ME HERE THIS

09:30:12 MORNING.

09:30:15 I AM HONORED AND HUMBLED BY THIS RECOGNITION.

09:30:18 I AM BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF

09:30:20 MY FATHER AS A FIRE FIGHTER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:30:22 THIS CAREER HAS GIVEN ME MANY OPPORTUNITIES AND

09:30:25 EXPERIENCES THAT GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE HIS

09:30:25 LIFE.

09:30:29 THIS WAS AN EXPERIENCE THAT I NEVER IMAGINED OR WANTED













09:30:31 TO BE INVOLVED WITH, BUT I AM THANKFUL FOR THE ABILITY

09:30:33 TO BE THERE.

09:30:35 AND HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME WITH IT.

09:30:38 MANY OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

09:30:41 WORK DIRECTLY WITH MY FATHER, AND I AM SURE HE IMPACTED

09:30:44 THEIR CAREERS AS POSITIVELY AS HE HAS THROUGHOUT MY

09:30:45 LIFE.

09:30:49 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF LOCICERO AND THE

09:30:52 ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR THEIR

09:30:54 CONTINUED SUPPORT OF MY FAMILY AND ME.

09:30:57 CHIEF WARNER, CAPTAIN SHOE MAC ER AND THE AWARDS

09:31:01 COMMITTEE OF THINKING HIGHLY ENOUGH OF ME TO DESERVE

09:31:02 THIS HONOR.

09:31:03 MY CREW WHO ARE A SECOND FAMILY.

09:31:06 YOU MAKE COMING TO WORK EACH SHIFT SOMETHING TO LOOK

09:31:07 FORWARD TO.

09:31:09 LASTLY TO MY FAMILY.

09:31:12 WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS THE APPRECIATION FOR ALL THAT YOU

09:31:13 DO FOR ME.

09:31:14 WE ARE BLESSED EVERY DAY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

09:31:16 CONTINUE TO SPEND THIS TIME TOGETHER.

09:31:20 THANK YOU.

09:31:27 [APPLAUSE]

09:31:29 >> WE ALREADY KNOW AND WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN YOUR

09:31:29 FATHER.













09:31:31 HOW ABOUT YOUR MOTHER AND LOVELY WIFE.

09:31:34 WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM.

09:31:38 >> MY MOTHER JOANNE AND MY WIFE, LEAH.

09:31:39 >> CONGRATULATIONS.

09:31:40 >> THANK YOU.

09:31:44 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

09:31:48 >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE NOT QUITE THROUGH YET.

09:31:49 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:31:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONGRATULATIONS.

09:31:52 JOB WELL-DONE.

09:31:55 MY DAD TURNED 90 THE OTHER DAY AND I HAD TO GIVE THE

09:31:58 SPEECH, AND I -- I GOT TO THE SAME POINT.

09:32:03 I STARTED -- I STARTED CRYING BECAUSE OF HOW WE FEEL

09:32:03 ABOUT OUR DADS.

09:32:05 I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY TO TURN TO.

09:32:07 OFF WHOLE STRING TO HAND OFF TO.

09:32:10 BUT, NO, SERIOUSLY.

09:32:12 CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WHOLE FAMILY.

09:32:14 I AM SURE THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN VERY PROUD OF YOU BUT

09:32:17 ESPECIALLY TODAY.

09:32:18 >> THANK YOU.

09:32:18 >> ANYONE ELSE?

09:32:21 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND

09:32:21 SERVICE.

09:32:24 I KNOW WE ALL AGREE TO THIS.













09:32:26 NOT A DARN THING WRONG WITH CRYING.

09:32:31 CUBAN MEN ARE EITHER YELLERS OR CRIERS.

09:32:32 AND I AM A CRIER.

09:32:34 AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.

09:32:40 COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO SAID WHERE COUNCILMAN GUDES AND

09:32:41 CITRO WENT TO.

09:32:43 I DIDN'T MAKE IT.

09:32:46 JOE GRECO HAD TO MAKE ME OUT OF THIS BUILDING BECAUSE I

09:32:47 JUST COULDN'T DO IT.

09:32:50 WE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I ALWAYS JOKE

09:32:54 WITH JOE THAT I GOT TO GO -- HELP ME, JOE GRECO.

09:32:57 HE HAD TO GET ME OUT OF A BUILDING.

09:33:01 WHAT YOU DO IS VERY DIFFICULT AND INTENSIVE AND WE ARE

09:33:03 IN DEBT FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO 100%.

09:33:04 THANK YOU.

09:33:04 >> THANK YOU.

09:33:07 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL, I WILL BE RIGHT

09:33:12 BACK.

09:33:15 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

09:33:16 THANK YOU.

09:34:17 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:34:19 >>COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO: SO THIS MORNING, WE HAVE A

09:34:22 CREW FROM WMNF RADIO WHICH HAS BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS.

09:34:29 THEY HAVE DONE A TOUR OF TAMPA GETTING COMEDIES AND

09:34:34 CELEBRATIONS AND PLAQUES AND HONORS FROM DIFFERENT













09:34:38 BODIES, MOST RECENTLY THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND WE NEED

09:34:40 TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL RADIO, SMALL

09:34:44 RADIO, BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE NOW, THEY ARE ALL OWNED BY

09:34:47 BUSINESS CORPORATIONS AND WHATNOT NOT LIKE WHAT TAMPA

09:34:50 USED TO BE BACK IN THE DAY.

09:34:53 GROWING UP THE SPANISH-SPEAKING RADIO STATIONS ALL

09:34:54 INDEPENDENTLY OWN.

09:34:54 SMALLER.

09:34:56 YOU KNEW THE PEOPLE.

09:34:57 THEY WERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

09:35:00 THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND WMNF PERSISTS AND CONTINUES

09:35:01 ON 40 YEARS LATER.

09:35:04 WAY TONIGHT READ THIS PRESENT TO WMNF FOR THEIR 40TH

09:35:07 CELEBRATION, 40TH ANNIVERSARY.

09:35:11 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HONORS WMNF FOR THEIR 40TH YEAR

09:35:13 CONSIDERED THE BEST LITTLE RADIO STATION ON THE PLANET.

09:35:17 WMNF IS A DREAM THAT WAS REALIZED BACK IN 1979 AND HAS

09:35:20 BEEN ENTIRELY FUNDED BY INDIVIDUAL DONORS AND LOCAL

09:35:20 BUSINESSES.

09:35:23 TODAY IT IS IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE

09:35:24 COMMUNITY.

09:35:27 WMNF MISSION STATEMENT CONTINUES TO DEMONSTRATE TO THIS

09:35:33 DAY YOUR UNWAVERING DEVOTION FOR CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND

09:35:37 COMMITMENT TO EQUALITY, PEACE AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE IN

09:35:39 OUR COMMUNITY.













09:35:42 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES YOUR ENDEAVORS FOR THIS

09:35:45 WORTHWHILE MISSION AND THE PLEASURE TO PRESENT YOU WITH

09:35:48 THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2019.

09:35:53 WITH ME IS CAMERON HERE WHO IS NO STRANGER TO CITY

09:35:53 HALL.

09:36:00 HIS WIFE IS MARY MULHERN, THE HONORABLE MARY MULHERN

09:36:03 WHICH MEAN OF YOU SERVED WITH.

09:36:04 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:36:05 AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

09:36:10 WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS AS WE CELEBRATE OUR 40TH YEAR

09:36:12 IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.

09:36:15 WMNF AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE THIS 40-YEAR HISTORY

09:36:16 TOGETHER.

09:36:18 MY HAVE THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE 40 YEARS.

09:36:21 I REMEMBER -- I AM OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST

09:36:23 HEARD THE PHRASE THAT TAMPA WAS GOING TO BE AMERICA'S

09:36:24 NEXT GREAT CITY.

09:36:30 AND NOW YOU GO DOWNTOWN, AND WE CAN ALL BE SO PROUD OF

09:36:33 THE WAY THE RIVERWALK HAS IGNITED OUR URBAN CORE.

09:36:37 THE THINGS -- THE EXCITING GROWTH GOING ON.

09:36:41 AND THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY -- WE HAVE GROWN UP QUITE

09:36:44 A BIT IN THE LAST 40 YEARS AND REALLY AN INCREDIBLE

09:36:47 HONOR TO BE PART OF THIS FABRIC OF THIS COMMUNITY.

09:36:50 FOR 40 YEARS WMNF HAS BEEN THE LITTLE STATION THAT COD.

09:36:56 AS GUIDO SAID, A PHRASE I COIN BACK IN THE DAY ON WMNF,













09:37:02 THE BEST LITTLE RADIO STATION ON PLANET EARTH, LISTENER

09:37:05 SPONSORED, VOLUNTEERED POWERED.

09:37:06 ONLY A HANDFUL OF PAID STUFF.

09:37:10 HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS AND THOUSANDS OF MEMBER SPONSORS

09:37:13 WHO PAY THE BILLS, KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, KEEP THE SIGNAL

09:37:19 GOING OUT NOT ONLY AT 88.5 BUT WMNF.ORG ON THE

09:37:23 WORLDWIDE WEB THAT IS OUT THERE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT

09:37:24 YOU CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE OVER.

09:37:28 WE HAVE BEEN ADAPTING TO THAT AS WELL AS THIS LANDSCAPE

09:37:33 24-7, 365 ON ONE BROADCAST AND THREE DIGITAL CHANNELS,

09:37:36 WMNF PROVIDES OUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

09:37:39 WE ARE ALSO YOUR EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM STATION,

09:37:42 WHICH I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE UNTIL RECENTLY I WAS

09:37:45 REMINDED OF IN AN EMERGENCY.

09:37:47 WE ARE THE STATION YOU WILL TURN TO.

09:37:51 WMNF HAS PROVEN ITSELF A GREAT CULTURAL ASSET AND

09:37:55 RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO MEAN BUSINESS,

09:37:57 WMNF IS A LITTLE STATION THAT COULD AND CAN AND DOES,

09:38:02 BUT WE ARE ALSO A GREAT LITTLE ENGINE OF ECONOMIC

09:38:04 DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

09:38:07 YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TOP CRITERIA THAT GET TALKED

09:38:11 ABOUT IS FOR A CITY AND A COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TRACK

09:38:14 TOP TALENT AND EMPLOYERS TO A COMMUNITY IS SELLING THEM

09:38:18 ON THAT LOCATION'S DIVERSITY, ITS TOLERANCE, ITS

09:38:23 INCLUSIVENESS, ITS ARTS AND CULTURAL AND CIVIC LIVES,













09:38:26 AND ALL STUFF THAT WMNF DOES FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND ARE

09:38:27 PROUD TO BE ABLE TO DO.

09:38:31 WE REALLY REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY'S VIBRANCY AND

09:38:32 DIVERSITY.

09:38:35 WE BUILT BRIDGES, NOT WALLS IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.

09:38:40 AND IN A COOKIE CUTTER BIG BOX WORLD OF CORPORATE MEDIA

09:38:43 AND AUTO TUNE SINGING VOICES, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR

09:38:47 THAT AUTHENTICITY THAT WMNF PROVIDES WITH VOLUNTEER

09:38:50 PROGRAMMERS WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE MUSIC AND

09:38:54 ISSUES WE BRING TO THE FORWARD.

09:38:59 PROOF POSITIVE THAT RECOGNIZES FAMILIES AND ALL SHAPES,

09:39:03 SIZES AND COLORS, YOUNG AND OLD, BLACK AND WHITE, GAY,

09:39:09 STRAIGHT OR CURLY, THEY ARE ALL HERE AT 88.5 FM, REAL

09:39:12 MUSIC, REAL NEWS, REAL KIND OF PEOPLE FOR MUSIC AND

09:39:15 IDEAS YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYWHERE ELSE.

09:39:19 OUR ECLECTIC MUSIC PROGRAMMING HAS FOSTERED A THRIVING

09:39:20 MUSIC SCENE IN THE BAY AREA.

09:39:24 THINK OF THE DOZENS OF CLUBS AND MUSIC VENUES FROM A

09:39:28 VERY VIBRANT LIVING ROOM CONCERT SERIES TO OUR TOP

09:39:31 PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS AND FESTIVAL STAGES.

09:39:37 IN FACT GMF VIP TICKETS EARLY BIRD TICKETS WENT ON SALE

09:39:39 A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO.

09:39:42 YOU ALL ARE KEEPING ME FROM GETTING THOSE TICKETS.

09:39:43 IT'S WORTH IT.

09:39:45 WE FOSTER CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.













09:39:49 NEWS AN PUBLIC AFFAIRS PROGRAMMING BY ROB, OUR NEWS AND

09:39:53 PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR REALLY ENGAGES AND INFORMS AND

09:39:56 INSPIRES OUR COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED, TO SHOW UP AT

09:39:59 CITY HALL AND MAKE THIS A BETTER AND MORE WELCOMING

09:40:03 COMMUNITY AND A MORE SUSTAINABLE PLANET FOR ALL OF US

09:40:06 AS WE CELEBRATE OUR 40TH ANNIVERSARY, WE REALLY WANT TO

09:40:09 GIVE THANKS TO THOUSANDS OF SUPPORTERS WHO SUSTAINED US

09:40:15 OVER THE YEARS AND HUMBLE TO COUNT YOU SEVEN MEMBERS OF

09:40:18 CITY COUNCIL AS PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THIS GREAT COMMUNITY

09:40:18 ENDEAVOR.

09:40:21 ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL WMNF BOARD, STAFF, VOLUNTEERS

09:40:23 AND LISTENERS WE THANK YOU.

09:40:29 BY THE WAY, I WANT TO GROW DUES GARY GIBBONS ONE OF OUR

09:40:29 GREAT VOLUNTEERS.

09:40:34 LAURA TAYLOR, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, DT WHO IS HERE.

09:40:37 OUR CHIEF ENGINEER WHEN THE EMERGENCY BROADCASTING

09:40:38 SYSTEM GOES IN EFFECT.

09:40:39 YOU NEED TO CALL HIM.

09:40:42 JUSTIN GARCIA WHO IS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AND SOCIAL

09:40:44 MEDIA DEPARTMENT.

09:40:46 HELPING TO KEEP US OUT THERE AS WELL.

09:40:49 WE ALL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR ON OUR 40TH

09:40:51 BIRTHDAY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU

09:40:53 ANOTHER 40 YEARS.

09:40:53 THANK YOU.













09:40:55 [APPLAUSE]

09:40:58 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:41:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAM, GARY, THE REST OF YOU, THANK

09:41:03 YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING DOWN, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THANK

09:41:06 YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT WMNF HAS DONE OVER

09:41:07 THE YEARS.

09:41:10 I HAD THE HONOR TO SERVE ON THE BOARD PROBABLY ABOUT 20

09:41:15 YEARS AGO, AND ACTUALLY MY WIFE AND I HELPED WHEN Y'ALL

09:41:20 BUILT THE NEW BUILDING, AND WHAT A GREAT ASSET -- ASSET

09:41:24 WMNF IS, ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND NEWS.

09:41:27 YOU ALWAYS BRING A FRESH VOICE AND AN IMPORTANT VOICE,

09:41:30 AND ESPECIALLY IN THESE DAYS WHEN THE NEWS INDUSTRY IS

09:41:33 SORT OF COLLAPSING AROUND ITSELF AND WE ARE TRYING TO

09:41:37 FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS GOING AND WE KNOW WE CAN TUNE

09:41:39 INTO WMNF AND GET THE STRAIGHT STORY.

09:41:40 AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:41:41 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:41:43 KEEP IT UP.

09:41:46 >> YES, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIR.

09:41:53 BACK IN 1979, SUNDAY MORNINGS FROM 3:00 TO 6:00, I WAS

09:41:54 WITH MARK BINGHAM.

09:41:59 AND WE DID A THREE-HOUR ALTERNATIVE RADIO PROGRAM.

09:42:03 AND THAT'S ALTERNATIVE BEFORE ALTERNATIVE WAS

09:42:04 ALTERNATIVE.

09:42:10 WE PLAYED MUSIC LIKE RICHARD HELL, RAMONS, AND WE HAD A













09:42:12 BLAST.

09:42:16 SUNDAY WOULDN'T BE SUNDAY WITHOUT HAVING TO LISTEN TO

09:42:22 THE SUNDAY SIMCOM, POLKA PARTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

09:42:28 I THANK WMNF FOR BRINGING FUN -- FUN TO OUR COMMUNITY.

09:42:33 AND OPENING THE WORLD OF MUSIC, THE WORLD OF NEWS,

09:42:38 INFORMATION AND THANK YOU WMNF FOR ALLOWING ME MY AT

09:42:41 LEAST SIX MONTHS OF BEING ON THE AIR IN 1979.

09:42:45 SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE TROPICAL HEAT WAVE THAT OTHERWISE

09:42:49 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS TYPE OF MUSIC.

09:42:51 I THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

09:42:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

09:42:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING AS

09:42:58 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, A FRESH PERSPECTIVE TO THE

09:43:00 NEWS ESPECIALLY IN A TIME WHEN MORE AND MORE OF OUR

09:43:07 NEWS IS BECOMING MANUFACTURERS -- MANUFACTURED AND A

09:43:09 LITTLE PERCEIVABLE AND YOU BRING DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES

09:43:12 WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND YOU HELP TO KEEP US ACCOUNTABLE,

09:43:13 LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

09:43:16 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SO PIVOTAL IS TO MAKE SURE

09:43:18 LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO SPREAD THE WORD

09:43:20 ON DIFFERENT ISSUES.

09:43:21 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:43:25 >> THANK YOU.

09:43:29 [APPLAUSE]

09:43:32 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, NEXT WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.













09:43:34 EVERYONE WHO IS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME

09:43:35 FORWARD.

09:43:36 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.

09:43:46 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:43:48 >> -- TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:43:51 A NICE AWARD THAT WMNF JUST GOT AND THAT IS GOOD TO

09:43:52 SAY.

09:43:53 ALWAYS GOOD TO MIX IT UP.

09:44:00 I HEARD THE COUNCILMAN SAY ABOUT THE RAMONS AND RED-HOT

09:44:03 CHILI PEPPER AND ANYWAY IF HE DO OR IF HE DON'T.

09:44:07 THE REALITY IS THAT WMNF IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF

09:44:09 GENTRIFICATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

09:44:11 THE PERSON SITTING RIGHT HERE THAT WAS THE VICE OF THE

09:44:14 AFRICAN COMMUNITY, THEY GOT RID OF HER.

09:44:16 SISTER CONNIE BURTON.

09:44:21 THEY GOT RID OF HER, WHEN PEOPLE COME AND GIVE ME

09:44:36 COMEDIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

09:44:40 >> ANYTHING AND 26% OF THE POPULATION HAVE ANY GOT ANY

09:44:42 RECOGNITION FOR THE THINGS WE DO, NOT FOR OUR

09:44:43 EXISTENCE.

09:44:48 AND IT GOES DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN, WHEN YOU HEAR THEY

09:44:53 -- BUILDING BUILDINGS OVER CEMETERIES, BLACK

09:44:54 CEMETERIES.

09:44:57 DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN AND BACKWARDS AND BACKWARDS.

09:45:00 EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT, WE ARE THE BRUNT OF IT.













09:45:03 AND WE NEVER, EVER, EVER, NEW BUDGET, BILLION DOLLAR

09:45:07 BUDGET, AND WHAT DO WE GET OUT OF IT, A MURAL AT A PARK

09:45:08 AND SOME OTHER NONSENSE.

09:45:10 ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.

09:45:13 A DISRESPECT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.

09:45:14 AND THEY LAUGH OVER IT.

09:45:15 HAVE TEA OVER IT.

09:45:16 SHINE OVER IT.

09:45:17 SING OVER IT.

09:45:20 DANCE OVER IT.

09:45:21 PUT LIGHTS OVER IT.

09:45:24 PUT LIGHTS ON THE RIVER AND ALL OTHER NONSENSE THAT

09:45:25 GOES ON WITH IT.

09:45:28 AND AFRICAN PEOPLE GET ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING

09:45:29 IN THIS CITY.

09:45:35 THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIVING ON BRINK,

09:45:37 CLOSE TO HOMELESSNESS.

09:45:40 AND ALL WE ARE SEEING IS GENTRIFICATION.

09:45:42 NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.

09:45:43 SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

09:45:47 AND EVEN RIGHT HERE WHERE PEOPLE TRY TO SPEAK OUT OR

09:45:51 COME DOWN HERE TO TAKE THEIR TIME TO SAY, HEY, HOW THEY

09:45:52 FEEL.

09:45:55 THE CITY COUNCIL TRY TO BLOCK IT.

09:45:58 THEY HATE TO HEAR THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE.













09:46:00 IT'S A NEW CITY COUNCIL.

09:46:01 IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

09:46:06 IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO NEW THINGS.

09:46:08 TO GIVE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

09:46:15 TO SHOW AFRICAN PEOPLE MORE THAN LIP SERVICE, MOUTH

09:46:16 SERVICE.

09:46:17 IT'S A NEW DAY.

09:46:20 AFRICAN PEOPLE, WE HAVE THE SAME DREAMS AND

09:46:23 ASPIRATIONS.

09:46:26 WE HAVE THE SAME DREAMS AND ASPIRATIONS.

09:46:30 THE SAME DREAMS AND ASPIRATIONS WHEN THEY WERE BRINGING

09:46:33 US IN SLAVE SHIPS TO BE A FREE AND SELF-DETERMINING

09:46:36 PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

09:46:39 LIKE TO SEE THIS CITY COUNCIL MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

09:46:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:46:47 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:46:49 >> EVERYBODY SAY AMEN TO THAT.

09:46:51 GREAT COMMENTS THAT HE JUST MADE.

09:46:52 THANK GOD FOR IT.

09:46:55 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL STAND UP FOR

09:47:03 JUSTIFICATION AND -- MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS

09:47:04 ON EAST SCOTT STREET.

09:47:07 I GUESS YOU ALL KNOW IT NOW EXACTLY WHERE.

09:47:09 I AM GOING TO READ SCRIPTURE FROM THE BOOK OF 2

09:47:10 TIMOTHY.













09:47:14 I AM JUST GOING TO READ PART OF THE SCRIPTURE.

09:47:18 KNOW ALSO THAT IN THE LAST DAYS, PERILOUS TIMES SHALL

09:47:23 COME AND MAN SHOULD BE LOVETH OF THEIR OWN SELF

09:47:28 COVENANT OF BLASPHEMY, DISOBEDIENT TO PARENTS,

09:47:32 UNTHANKFUL, UNHOLY, WITHOUT NATURAL AFFECTION, FALSE

09:47:42 ACCUSER, DESPISER OF THOSE THAT ARE GOOD, TRAITOR, AND

09:47:47 LOVETH OF PLEASURE MORE OF LOVETH OF GOD.

09:47:51 A GODNESS BUT DENYING THOU POWER OF.

09:47:56 AND TURN AWAY AND THIS SORT THEY ARE -- THEY WILL CREEP

09:48:01 INTO HOUSES AND LEAVE CAPTIVE SILLY WOMAN LADEN WITH

09:48:01 SIN.

09:48:08 LED WITH OTHER -- I WANTED TO READ THAT SCRIPTURE.

09:48:11 I HOPE SOMEBODY WILL TAKE HEED OF WHAT GOD IS TRYING TO

09:48:11 TELL US.

09:48:14 WE ARE LIVING IN SOME TIMES WHAT THEY CALL PERILOUS

09:48:17 TIME WHERE MEN DON'T RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.

09:48:19 WOMEN DON'T RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.

09:48:23 AND NOW WE ARE LIVING IN PERILOUS TIME WHERE MEN ARE

09:48:26 LOVERS OF THEMSELVES MORE THAN LOVERS OF GOD ALMIGHTY.

09:48:31 WE MUST UNDERSTAND, GOD IS THE ONE THAT CREATED US.

09:48:32 AND WE ARE HIS CHILDREN.

09:48:37 AND I GOT TO TELL Y'ALL, I AM GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY

09:48:40 BECAUSE EVERY MOMENT OF MY LIFE IS A MOMENT OF

09:48:44 THANKSGIVING TO GOD ALMIGHTY TO CREATED THE HEAVEN AND

09:48:45 THE EARTH.













09:48:49 I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL DON'T LIKE ME, BUT THAT IS Y'ALL'S

09:48:49 PROBLEM.

09:48:52 I HAVE TO LIKE AND LOVE EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE ARE ALL

09:48:54 BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON THIS EARTH, WHETHER WE WHITE,

09:48:58 WHETHER WE BLACK, WHETHER WE JEWS OR WHETHER WE

09:48:59 GENTILES.

09:49:00 MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.

09:49:03 WE HAVE TO RESPECT ONE ANOTHER JUST LIKE THE YOUNG MAN

09:49:05 CAME UP HERE.

09:49:08 ALL THE RESPECT AND HE AIN'T DO NOTHING BUT ASKING FOR

09:49:09 JUSTIFICATION FOR EVERYBODY.

09:49:11 NOT JUST FOR WHITE FOLKS ONLY.

09:49:18 AND WE KNOW FOR A FACT WE HAVE MANY PROBLEMS IN TAMPA.

09:49:19 I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THE UNITED STATES.

09:49:20 RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA.

09:49:27 AND THAT LAND OVER THERE -- FOR CHELSEA AND 22ND

09:49:27 STREET.

09:49:32 I WANT TO YOU DONATE THAT TO ME TO BUILD A BEAUTIFUL

09:49:33 CHURCH AND A BEAUTIFUL MUSEUM.

09:49:36 I HAVE A BLACK HISTORICAL MUSEUM, AND IT GOES WAY

09:49:39 BEYOND, I MEAN WAY BEYOND BEFORE UNITED STATES WAS EVER

09:49:40 CREATED.

09:49:42 FOUNDER OF THE UNITED STATES.

09:49:44 THANK GOD FOR MANY BLESSINGS.

09:49:47 YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO QUIT PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN













09:49:51 BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AND STAND UP FOR

09:49:53 JUSTIFICATION FOR ALL PEOPLE.

09:49:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:49:58 >> AND WE GOT A MAN AND PROPHET WE CALL A PRESIDENT

09:49:59 CALLED DONALD TRUMP.

09:50:01 BOY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE COME FROM.

09:50:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, NEXT, PLEASE.

09:50:11 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

09:50:16 ERNEST JOHNSON, EAST NEDRO ROAD, TAMPA, HERE.

09:50:19 AND I AM LIKE THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.

09:50:20 WE PAY TAXES.

09:50:24 AND OUR TAXES SHOULD GO TOWARD THE BETTERMENT OF EACH

09:50:24 OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.

09:50:28 I RECENTLY LOOKED AT THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE COMMUNITY

09:50:33 DEVELOPMENT IN THE BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET JULY 1, AND I

09:50:35 AM CONCERNED ABOUT -- AND I WANT THIS ENTERED INTO THE

09:50:45 RECORD 3502, 3504, 3506, 3510 34TH STREET.

09:50:48 THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT BY A SO-CALLED NONPROFIT CITY

09:50:52 -- CDC CITY OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMUNITIES.

09:50:55 AND ALL OF THESE HOUSES OVER $200,000.

09:50:59 THE MEDIAN INCOME OF FOLKS IN THOSE AREAS, MOST OF

09:51:03 THEM, ARE NO MORE THAN $20,000 OR $30,000 A YEAR.

09:51:06 THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS, WHEREWITHAL TO BUY THESE

09:51:11 HOUSES, OBTAIN THESE HOUSES WITH A 30% AMI, 50% OR EVEN

09:51:13 60% AMI.













09:51:17 THEY DO NOT HAVE IT, THE FINANCIAL STABILITY TO OBTAIN

09:51:17 A HOUSE.

09:51:21 ALSO ENTER INTO THE RECORD THE HOUSE BUILT BY THE CDC

09:51:26 3914, 3501, 3503, 34TH AND 27TH AVENUE.

09:51:30 HOUSES FROM $215,000 TO $226,000.

09:51:33 AND WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION'S HELP, THE CITY OF

09:51:38 TAMPA MAYOR AND THE CITY COMMISSION THESE HOUSES WITH

09:51:41 THAT VERDICT TO THE CDC FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THESE

09:51:45 HOUSES, AGAIN, THESE HOUSES ARE NOT THE MEDIAN AMI OF

09:51:47 ANY OF THE CITIZENS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

09:51:50 AND SO THE PEOPLE BUYING THESE HOUSES ARE CREATING

09:51:52 GENTRIFICATION.

09:51:57 IT IS CALLED FALSE GENTRIFICATION BECAUSE A NONPROFIT

09:52:00 ORGANIZATION SUPPOSEDLY BE THE SPEARHEAD OF THESE

09:52:03 PROGRAMS BUT THESE PROGRAMS ARE ACTUAL PROGRAMS OF THE

09:52:07 CITY COMMISSION AND THE MAYOR AND THEY DO NOT MEET THE

09:52:08 NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE.

09:52:10 I AM SUGGESTING THAT THIS COMMISSION SET FORTH CONCRETE

09:52:13 DETERMINATIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.

09:52:16 I AM PROPOSING -- AND I WANT IT ON RECORD -- THAT WE

09:52:19 WANT THE CITY COMMISSION TO CREATE THE TAMPA REGIONAL

09:52:22 COMMISSION ON HOMELESS CITIZENS.

09:52:28 AND TO EFFECT THAT CREATION ALONG WITH THE MAYOR'S

09:52:32 ASSISTANCE, PARTICIPATION, AND NONPROFITS OF EAST

09:52:33 TAMPA.













09:52:37 BECAUSE THESE SITUATIONS HAVE NO PLATFORM, NO PROGRAM,

09:52:39 NO COMMISSION OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

09:52:42 AND UNTIL WE GET A TAMPA REGIONAL COMMISSION ON

09:52:45 HOMELESS AND RETURNING CITIZENS, THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING

09:52:49 TO RETURN FROM PRISON AND RETURN TO CRIME.

09:52:51 THE HOMELESS WILL RETURN FROM ONE LEVEL OF FALLEN

09:52:56 HUMANITY TO THE OTHER AND THIS PROOF OF THESE HOMES

09:52:59 HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOMELESS AND LOW-INCOME AND

09:53:02 PEOPLE TO MEET THE FEDERAL MEDIAN INCOME.

09:53:04 WE WOULD LIKE SOMETHING TO BE DONE TO CREATE THE TAMPA

09:53:07 REGIONAL COMMISSION ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE IT.

09:53:07 THANK YOU.

09:53:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:53:10 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:53:14 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:53:16 >> CONNIE BURTON.

09:53:20 SO THE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU DEVELOPED EVEN WITH

09:53:24 DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE, THE ADDRESS THAT THE GENTLEMAN

09:53:28 JUST LAID OUT, HOMES BEING BUILT BY THE CDC, EVEN WITH

09:53:32 AN ADDITIONAL $15,000 COMING IN FROM THE EAST TAMPA

09:53:40 CRA, HOUSES AT OVER $200,000 WILL STILL MAKE IT VERY

09:53:43 HARD FOR PEOPLE WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY IN AND AROUND

09:53:44 OUR COMMUNITY.

09:53:50 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPOSED

09:53:52 TO REPRESENT THE ISSUES THAT BLIGHTED COMMUNITY AND













09:53:54 LOW-INCOME FAMILIES.

09:53:58 RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF CHELSEA AND 26TH, WE HAVE A

09:54:01 PRIVATE OWNER THAT IS BUILDING A HOUSE OVER THERE FOR

09:54:03 $230,000.

09:54:07 IT IS BECOMING A WIN GATE FOR EVERYBODY TO COME INSIDE

09:54:10 THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR HOUSING WITHOUT

09:54:14 A BODY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE

09:54:19 COMMUNITY TO SAY HOW WILL THOSE COMMUNITIES BE ABLE TO

09:54:21 SUSTAIN WITHOUT BEING GENTRIFIED.

09:54:24 AND SO GENTRIFICATION IS OCCURRING.

09:54:28 WE CAME DOWN HERE AND LAST YEAR AUGUST 2018, AND WE

09:54:32 TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR CONTAINER HOMES, TINY HOMES.

09:54:35 THERE HAS BEEN NO MOVEMENT, NO DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU

09:54:41 STILL HAVE CITY STAFF THAT IS PROMOTING DOMAIN HOMES.

09:54:43 AS THE WIN WALL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

09:54:47 EVEN WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVING WELL OVER 25,000

09:54:51 PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST, EVEN ON THE ENCORE, ON

09:54:56 THEIR PROPERTY, MARKET RATE RENT IS OVER $1,000.

09:54:57 WHAT ARE WE TO DO?

09:55:00 AND WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT GREAT CITY, WHAT WE

09:55:04 SEE IS GREATNESS FOR THIS CITY IS THOSE WHO CAN PAY CAN

09:55:05 PLAY.

09:55:08 INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

09:55:10 WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE

09:55:14 MARIJUANA DISPENSARY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DIG UNTIL WE













09:55:16 FIND OUT WHO THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE.

09:55:19 HOW IS YOUR HANDS SO TIED.

09:55:21 DR. KING SAID WHAT IS LAW?

09:55:24 HE SAID THE OPINION OF THOSE IN POWER.

09:55:28 SO INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT WE'VE HAD EVEN BY SOME

09:55:33 OF THESE CDC, PASTORS ON PATROL, WHOMEVER THAT

09:55:39 PARTICIPATED IN THE UPGRADING OR MISDEMEANOR MARIJUANA

09:55:43 CHARGES TO FELONS, WE GOT A WHOLE COMMUNITY OF YOUNG

09:55:46 PEOPLE WHO DON'T DO NOTHING BUT SIT UNDER THE TREE.

09:55:49 YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY ARE FELONS NOW.

09:55:52 AND INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY WHERE THIS MARIJUANA

09:55:56 DISPENSARY OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET IS BEING BUILT IN

09:55:59 OUR COMMUNITY IS THE BIGGEST HYPOCRISY.

09:56:03 AND WE PLAN ON MAKING A BIG, BIG ISSUE GOING INTO THE

09:56:06 SUPER BOWL AND BEYOND THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE

09:56:09 THESE SERIOUS CONTRADICTIONS WHERE OUR PEOPLE, YOUNG

09:56:13 PEOPLE HAVE NO HOPE, NOTHING BUT DAMN JAIL.

09:56:16 WOMEN ARE BEING FORCED TO LIVE AND -- LIVE ON THE

09:56:18 STREET BECAUSE THERE IS NO HOUSING IN THIS CITY.

09:56:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

09:56:21 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:56:44 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:56:47 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, JOE ROBINSON, WEST

09:56:47 TAMPA.

09:56:51 I WANT TO JUST READ -- THE WEST TAMPA CRA IS GOING TO













09:56:56 BE HOSTING OUR SECOND ANNUAL UNITY TAMPA HISTORICAL AND

09:57:07 CULTURAL FESTIVAL SUNDAY 29TH -- AT THE RIVERFRONT

09:57:07 PARK.

09:57:11 WE WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT FROM 1 TO 5:00.

09:57:13 EVENTS THERE FOR THE CHILDREN, THE FAMILY, AND A CLEAN

09:57:14 EVENT.

09:57:15 PLEASE COME OUT TO THAT.

09:57:20 WITH THAT SAID, I AM HERE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

09:57:27 BACK IN 2008, -- CAN PUT THIS ON THE ELMO SO CITY

09:57:30 COUNCIL CAN SEE THIS -- I DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY.

09:57:31 I HAVE DOCUMENTS ON EVERYBODY.

09:57:36 THIS IS WHERE A MOTION WAS MADE BY LINDA SAUL AND JOHN

09:57:40 DINGFELDER BACK IN 2008 TO HAVE THE SUPER BOWL CHANCE

09:57:44 FOR NEWS 2009 TO APPEAR AT CITY COUNCIL AND REPORT ON

09:57:47 MINORITY BUSINESS.

09:57:48 THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION.

09:57:49 I GOT ALL THIS STUFF.

09:57:51 EMERGING BUSINESS PROGRAM APPLICATION.

09:57:54 THIS IS DOWN WHEN THEY HAD IT IN MIAMI THE LAST TIME.

09:57:57 AND THEY DEFINED MINORITY BUSINESS AND FILL OUT THE

09:57:58 APPLICATION AND SO FORTH.

09:58:01 I AM ASKING CITY COUNCIL IN TWO MINUTES TO PLEASE HAVE

09:58:06 THE SUPER BOWL TASK FORCE -- WHAT THEY HAVE -- ANOTHER

09:58:09 GROUP CALLED THE EMERGING BUSINESS PROGRAM.

09:58:12 IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD THERE.













09:58:14 THEY ARE WORKING THE BACK ROOM THERE.

09:58:18 EMERGING BUSINESS PROGRAM, PROGRAM -- INCREASE EMERGING

09:58:19 BUSINESSES.

09:58:22 THEY SPENT TWO MILLION BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.

09:58:26 IT IS TIME NOW TO START HAVING CITY COUNCIL GIVE

09:58:30 REPORTS THAT WERE ALREADY DONE IN THE PAST -- NAACP

09:58:33 WILL BE DOWN HERE TO HAVE THEM TALK -- COME AND TALK

09:58:35 ABOUT MINORITY BUSINESS UTILIZATION.

09:58:36 HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

09:58:39 THEY HAVE A PROGRAM ALL EMERGING BUSINESS, THE NFL.

09:58:41 THEY SUPPORT MINORITY BUSINESS.

09:58:43 THEY JUST GOT JAY-Z TO HELP THEM OUT.

09:58:46 SO WE IN WEST TAMPA AND OTHER AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE

09:58:49 SAYING IT IS TIME FOR CITY COUNCIL TO TELL THESE PEOPLE

09:58:51 WHERE IS THIS TASK FORCE?

09:58:53 WHERE IS THIS?

09:58:57 AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES IS GOING TO SPEAK ON IT.

09:59:02 I AM NOT STEALING HIS THUNDER AND I HAVE SENT HIM THIS

09:59:04 INFORMATION AND QUITE SURE HE IS GOING TO BRING IT UP

09:59:07 AND HERE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM TO SAY WE ARE

09:59:07 READY.

09:59:10 LET'S GET IT MOVING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BACK TO THE

09:59:14 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NAACP AND START RAISING ISSUES

09:59:16 ABOUT THIS SUPER BOWL TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

09:59:19 MINORITY SMALL BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY FOR BLACK FOLKS.













09:59:22 SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS LET'S GET IT ON.

09:59:26 LET'S START EARLY SO WE CAN START TRACKING IT SO WE CAN

09:59:28 BREAK THE RECORD THAT WE HAD BEFORE.

09:59:31 SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.

09:59:32 CITY COUNCIL CAN DO IT.

09:59:33 THEY WILL COME HERE.

09:59:37 AND I THINK THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE NAACP IS STILL

09:59:40 TRYING TO GET A SEAT AT THE TABLE, OKAY.

09:59:43 AND THE TASK FORCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON THAT.

09:59:46 I AM HERE TO SAY COME ON, LET'S GET BUSY WITH THIS

09:59:48 SUPER BOWL NOW.

09:59:51 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:59:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DID RECEIVE IT AND YOU CALLED ME A

09:59:56 COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAITING FOR THE INFORMATION --

09:59:57 UNFORTUNATELY I JUST GOT THE INFORMATION THIS MORNING.

10:00:01 WE HAVE A RULE NOW WE DO MOTIONS AT THE END, CORRECT.

10:00:04 I WILL MAKE THE MOTION WITH REFERENCE FOR THE SUPER

10:00:05 BOWL COMMITTEE TO COME FORWARD.

10:00:08 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GUDES.

10:00:12 THANK YOU TO YOUR AIDE, SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN NICE TO ME

10:00:14 AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK SHE DOES.

10:00:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:00:18 ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:00:21 OUR 10 A.M. STAFF REPORT FROM WATER AND WASTEWATER

10:00:22 DEPARTMENT.













10:00:26 ANYONE HERE FOR OUR 10:00, NUMBER 4?

10:00:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:00:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

10:00:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I COMMUNICATED WITH MR. BENNETT ON

10:00:33 IN ISSUE.

10:00:37 I BELIEVE WAS ON IMPACT FEES.

10:00:38 YEAH.

10:00:41 HE SAID THEY RECEIVED A REPORT FROM THEIR CONSULTANT.

10:00:44 THEY ARE ANALYZING THAT AND THEY WILL ASK FOR A

10:00:46 CONTINUANCE ON THAT ISSUE.

10:00:50 IT IS NOT -- IT'S NOT URGENT.

10:00:54 I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE NEXT AVAILABLE WORKSHOP IS WE

10:00:56 CAN PUT IT ON.

10:00:58 >> DECEMBER 19 REGULAR SESSION?

10:01:01 >> LOOKS LIKE ON THE AGENDA THEY HAVE REQUESTED A

10:01:03 CONTINUOUS TO DECEMBER.

10:01:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, PERFECT.

10:01:06 >>LUIS VIERA: IS THAT OKAY.

10:01:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE THAT.

10:01:10 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:01:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:01:15 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:01:17 OPPOSED.

10:01:20 SECOND WORKSHOP.

10:01:20 LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.













10:01:23 I AM SORRY, STAFF REPORT.

10:01:23 NOT WORKSHOP.

10:01:26 GO AHEAD.

10:01:28 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:01:30 OCEA WYNN, THE DEPARTMENT OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET

10:01:31 MANAGEMENT.

10:01:35 YOU ASKED US TO COME BACK TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON THE

10:01:38 MOLD ISSUES IN CITY HALL, AS WELL AS THE VIBRATION

10:01:46 ISSUES FROM THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON IN THE

10:01:47 JACKSON STREET LOT.

10:01:51 I PROVIDED A REPORT FOR YOU AS A SUMMARY OF THE REPORTS

10:01:54 WE RECEIVED FROM THE CONSULTANTS AND I WANTED TO KNOW

10:01:58 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE TAKE TO WHAT WAS IN

10:01:59 THE REPORT.

10:02:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

10:02:02 YES, SIR.

10:02:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR THE REPORT.

10:02:15 VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDED THE

10:02:16 VIBRATION ISSUE.

10:02:20 WE ALL EXPERIENCED THE VIBRATION AND IT WAS NEXT DOOR.

10:02:23 AND THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A WONDERFUL

10:02:26 HISTORIC BUILDING TO MAKE SURE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION

10:02:29 ACROSS THE STREET WAS NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THIS

10:02:29 BUILDING.

10:02:32 I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT DIDN'T?













10:02:34 >> YES, SIR.

10:02:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN I HEARD RECENTLY THAT WE WERE

10:02:41 GETTING READY TO TEAR INTO THIS OLD BUILDING AGAIN -- I

10:02:43 DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT -- WHEN THAT IS GOING TO START.

10:02:46 INFORM US OF THE TIME TABLE OF THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.

10:02:48 BUT WHEN I HEARD WE WERE TEARING INTO THIS BUILDING

10:02:51 AGAIN, I AM THINKING TO MYSELF, IT IS LIKE WE TEAR INTO

10:02:54 THIS OLD BUILDING EVERY -- EVERY FIVE TO TEN YEARS OR

10:02:55 SOMETHING.

10:02:58 AND YOU KNOW, IT IS LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING THIS TIME

10:03:01 AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE SON, YOU KNOW.

10:03:04 AND I KNOW THE LAST TIME -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

10:03:09 I WASN'T HERE, BUT I HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT

10:03:14 IT LASTED A LOT LONGER AND IT DID STIR UP A LOT OF MOLD

10:03:17 ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT STAFF HAD GREAT

10:03:18 CONCERN ABOUT.

10:03:21 SO MAYBE FILL US A LITTLE BIT MORE IN ON, YOU KNOW,

10:03:24 WHERE WE ARE HEAD AND WHY WE ARE DOING IT AGAIN AND ALL

10:03:25 THAT SORT OF STUFF.

10:03:27 >> YES, SIR, I WILL BE GLAD TO.

10:03:31 SO -- JUST SO COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE PROJECT WAS

10:03:33 A TWO-PHASE PROJECT FOR THE OLD CITY HALL.

10:03:35 SO WE ARE NOT TEARING INTO THE BUILDING AGAIN.

10:03:38 WE ARE JUST DOING A SECOND PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

10:03:42 THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT WAS TO SEAL THE













10:03:44 ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING SO THE OUTSIDE OF THE

10:03:48 BUILDING, WE HAD BANISTERS FALLING OFF AND WE WANT TO

10:03:51 MAKE SURE THAT THE -- ANY MOISTURE THAT WAS GETTING

10:03:55 INSIDE OF THE BUILDING WE WERE REMEDIATING AND

10:03:57 MITIGATING ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS.

10:03:58 THAT WAS THE FIRST PHASE.

10:04:04 THE SECOND PHASE HAD ALWAYS BEEN TO TAKE CARE OF THE

10:04:05 INTERNAL.

10:04:07 THE INTERNALS OF THE BUILDING.

10:04:10 TO LOOK AT -- TO UPGRADE THE PLUMBING.

10:04:12 TO UPGRADE THE ELECTRICAL.

10:04:15 TO UPGRADE THE HVAC SYSTEM AS WELL.

10:04:18 SO THAT WAS THE SECOND PHASE OF THE BUILDING -- OF THE

10:04:18 PROJECT.

10:04:23 AND WE WILL BE EMBARKING UPON THAT WITHIN THE NEXT

10:04:27 YEAR.

10:04:31 I THINK CONTRACT ADMIN WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU -- IF

10:04:35 THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY -- THE CONSULTANT AND WHATEVER

10:04:39 NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO APPROVE THE CONTRACTORS -- THE

10:04:41 CONSULTANTS AND CONTRACTORS FOR THAT PHASE.

10:04:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THE DISRUPTION

10:04:46 TO THE OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING, INCLUDING US?

10:04:49 >> THAT IS MORE OF A CONTRACT ADMIN QUESTION.

10:04:55 I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN SPEAKING WITH MIKE CHUCRAN, IT

10:04:58 IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE PROJECT WILL START NEXT FALL.













10:05:02 NOW THE DESTRUCTION -- THE DISRUPTION OF THAT WILL --

10:05:06 THINKING AND I AM SPEAKING OFF -- WITHOUT MIKE HERE

10:05:10 PROBABLY WILL BE ABOUT A YEAR OR SO.

10:05:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HINDSIGHT IS 20/20 BUT UNFORTUNATE

10:05:19 THEY HAD TO DO IT IN TWO PHASES AND AS LONG AS THEY HAD

10:05:22 EVERYBODY OUT OF IT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IT ALL AT

10:05:23 ONCE.

10:05:24 HINDSIGHT IS 20-20.

10:05:26 THANK YOU.

10:05:27 >> THANK YOU.

10:05:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY INDICATION WHERE THE DEPARTMENT

10:05:31 WILL BE MEETING DURING THIS PROCESS.

10:05:34 >> MY DEPARTMENT, LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, WE

10:05:38 ARE WORKING ON THAT TO MAKE IT AS LESS DISRUPTIVE AS

10:05:40 POSSIBLE AND WE ARE WORKING ON DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

10:05:42 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE

10:05:45 ANYTHING DEFINED, ANYTHING DEFINITIVE.

10:05:50 BUT WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING NEXT SPRING, AND THAT

10:05:53 INFORMATION WILL BE COMMUNICATED IN ADVANCE TO MAKE

10:05:55 SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED

10:06:00 LOGISTICALLY TO CONTINUE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

10:06:04 WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

10:06:06 TO KEEP EVERYTHING CONFINED HERE.

10:06:09 SHOULD THAT NOT HAPPEN WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AND WE

10:06:11 ARE LOOKING AT THAT.













10:06:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN AS MUCH TIME THAT OURSELVES AND

10:06:18 LEGISLATIVE AIDES KNOW AND THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY

10:06:23 INCLUDING MR. FUEGO OVER THERE.

10:06:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE?

10:06:29 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:06:33 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAW IN THE REPORT IT SAID THAT THE

10:06:35 INSTANCES OF MOLD ARE NOT HIGH.

10:06:37 WITH THE LAST COUNCIL, I HAD FRIENDS WHO SAID THEY AND

10:06:41 THEIR AIDES EXPERIENCED RESPIRATORY ISSUES AND SKIN

10:06:43 ISSUES.

10:06:45 ARE YOU ALL -- IS THE CITY CERTAIN NOT ANYTHING GOING

10:06:48 ON UNHEALTHY IN THESE OFFICES.

10:06:48 >> YES, SIR.

10:06:51 SO AFTER THE FIRST SET OF COMPLAINTS, WE HAD A

10:06:55 REMEDIATION COMPANY TO COME IN AND WHAT WE ARE DOING --

10:06:58 THE CURRENT REPORT THAT YOU HAVE IS A QUARTERLY REPORT.

10:07:01 SO THE LAST REPORT THAT WAS DONE IN THE APRIL TIME

10:07:08 FRAME SHOWED THAT THERE WAS MINIMAL MOLD AND POLLEN AND

10:07:09 ALL OF THAT IN THE BUILDING.

10:07:13 THE LAST -- EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MINIMAL, IT WAS STILL

10:07:15 BELOW THE THRESHOLD.

10:07:18 THE LAST REPORT WHICH WAS THE JULY REPORT SHOWED THAT

10:07:22 IT WAS A LOT LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS REPORT.

10:07:25 SO WE DO HAVE QUARTERLY TESTING AND REPORTING DONE TO

10:07:31 ENSURE THAT THE -- THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BUILDING.













10:07:33 >> COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:07:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES POINTED THIS OUT

10:07:39 TO ME WHEN WE WERE ALL SWORN IN.

10:07:42 THE AIR FILTERS -- SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE HERE.

10:07:45 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT HAS BEEN CHANGED AND LOOKS LIKE

10:07:47 THE SAME ONE THROUGHOUT THIS FLOOR.

10:07:51 SHOULDN'T THEY BE CHANGED EVERY 30 DAYS OR SO, THESE

10:07:52 AIR CONDITIONING FILTERS.

10:07:54 >> I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW

10:07:59 IF THE RESIDENTIAL CHANGING OF THE AIR FILTERS, IF

10:08:01 THAT'S THE SAME AS THE BUILDING AIR FILTERS.

10:08:05 SO -- BUT I WILL ENSURE THAT -- I WILL GET BACK WITH

10:08:07 YOU ON THE TIME FRAME THAT THEY ARE CHANGED AND ENSURE

10:08:09 THAT THEY ARE.

10:08:12 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS ONE HAS BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE

10:08:14 BEFORE THIS CURRENT COUNCIL HAS COME IN.

10:08:16 >> RIGHT, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

10:08:18 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE, THANKS.

10:08:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

10:08:21 APPRECIATE IT.

10:08:22 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

10:08:25 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT MOVE TO OUR WORKSHOPS.

10:08:29 LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE.

10:08:32 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MADE THAT OUR FIRST COUNCIL DATE,

10:08:33 IF I RECALL.













10:08:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

10:08:39 >> COUNCILMAN CITRO, STILL YOUR PICTURE.

10:08:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM STILL SHOWING IT ALL.

10:08:52 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:08:55 CATHERINE COYLE, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

10:08:56 COORDINATION.

10:08:59 I PROVIDED YOU A MEMO WITH THE HISTORY OF THE FRONT

10:09:03 PORCH REGULATIONS AS ADOPTED IN 2006 AND THE CHANGES

10:09:06 THAT WERE MADE UP UNTIL TODAY INCLUDING THE EXISTING

10:09:11 REGULATIONS ON PAGE TWO AND A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHERE

10:09:13 THE RULES APPLY AND WHERE THEY DON'T.

10:09:21 THE MAP ITSELF THAT I MENTIONED IN THE MEMO -- THE FILE

10:09:29 WAS SLIGHTLY TOO LARGE TO SEND VIA E-MAIL.

10:09:36 THIS IS PURELY JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

10:09:43 THE RED HATCH MARKS ON THE MAP ARE EVERYTHING THAT IS

10:09:47 ZONED RS SOMETHING OR RM SOMETHING WHICH IS WHAT THE

10:09:52 RULES APPLY TO.

10:09:54 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, ALL OF THE

10:09:58 OVERLAYS ARE CALLED OUT, AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL

10:10:00 DISTRICTS AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

10:10:03 AND THE MEMO ADVISES YOU THAT THE RULES DON'T APPLY AND

10:10:07 THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS BUT

10:10:12 THEY DO APPLY IN HYDE PARK AND TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC

10:10:16 DISTRICT WITH DESIGN PLANNERS THROUGH THE ARC

10:10:18 CONTROLLING THE FINAL DESIGN OF A PORCH IF IT DOES













10:10:20 HAPPEN TO BE ADDED TO A BUILDING.

10:10:24 SO THIS IS REALLY AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION IF YOU WANT

10:10:27 TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE RULES.

10:10:29 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:10:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:10:33 AS THE MEMO INDICATES -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT

10:10:38 YEARS, '05 OR WHAT WAS IT, CATHY.

10:10:41 WROTE AND DRAFTED THIS ORDINANCE TOGETHER PROBABLY WITH

10:10:46 OTHER FOLKS, AND TO ENCOURAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF FRONT

10:10:47 PORCHES.

10:10:51 YOU KNOW UP UNTIL THEN, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A FRONT

10:10:54 PORCH AND IT ENCROACHED INTO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK AND

10:10:58 I KNOW MR. CITRO IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS FROM THE

10:11:02 VARIANCE BOARD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO GO FOR A VARIANCE

10:11:04 AND THIS TYPE OF THING.

10:11:07 SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE CITY

10:11:12 WAS TO EASE UP ON THAT REGULATION.

10:11:15 ESPECIALLY THE IMPORTANT ISSUE THERE WAS PEOPLE WERE

10:11:17 GOING TO BUILD A FRONT PORCH, BUT THEY HAD TO LEAVE IT

10:11:18 A FRONT PORCH.

10:11:22 IT HAD TO BE REMAINING AS AN OPEN FRONT PORCH, NOT TO

10:11:25 BE ENCLOSED AT SOME FUTURE DATE.

10:11:31 AND THAT WAS REALLY CRITICAL TO THE PROGRAM.

10:11:35 I DON'T KNOW IF CATHY MENTIONED, BUT -- AND IT PROBABLY

10:11:39 JUST PREACHING TO THE CHOIR, BUT I THINK FRONT PORCHES













10:11:42 ARE IMPORTANT FROM'S THETIC PERSPECTIVE BUT FROM A

10:11:46 COMMUNITY BUILDING PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY

10:11:47 PERSPECTIVE.

10:11:49 THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CALLS IT "EYES ON THE STREET."

10:11:53 AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE -- OF COURSE, IN THE WORST PART OF

10:11:55 THE SUMMER YOU MAY NOT BE SITTING ON YOUR FRONT PORCH,

10:11:58 BUT NINE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR YOU MIGHT.

10:12:01 SITTING ON YOUR FRONT PORCH AND CHATTING WITH YOUR

10:12:03 NEIGHBORS AND KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS A LITTLE BETTER AND

10:12:05 WATCHING WHAT IS GOING ON UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND

10:12:07 THAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

10:12:09 THAT IS WHY WE DID THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

10:12:12 I GUESS WE SORT OF DID IT ON A EXPERIMENTAL BASIS IN

10:12:17 THE BEGINNING, LIMITING IT TO THE RS-50 NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:12:22 IT IS ANECDOTALLY MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PEOPLE HAVE

10:12:27 TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE ORDINANCE AND ALWAYS SWORE UP

10:12:29 AND DOWN IF I EVER CAME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL I

10:12:32 WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THIS TO AS MUCH OF THE CITY AS

10:12:35 POSSIBLE BECAUSE I SAW NO REASON WHY THE ENTIRE CITY

10:12:39 SHOULDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF -- YOU KNOW, OF THIS TYPE

10:12:41 OF -- WE WILL CALL IT DEREGULATION.

10:12:43 HOW'S THAT.

10:12:45 KATHY, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

10:12:49 YOU AND I WERE CHATTING A MINUTE AGO SOME OF THE AREAS

10:12:53 THAT IT DIDN'T APPLY, BUT INSTEAD YOU HAVE GOOD RULES













10:12:53 IN PLACE.

10:12:58 FOR EXAMPLE, IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, I KNOW YOU DO THE

10:13:02 FORM-BASED -- THE FORM-BASED ZONING WHICH IN MANY WAYS

10:13:07 ALREADY ENCOURAGES FRONT PORCHES AND EVEN DEMAND FRONT

10:13:11 PORCHES IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS AND I HOPE THAT MR. GUDES

10:13:12 COMES BACK TO JOIN US IN A SECOND.

10:13:15 I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT EAST TAMPA.

10:13:19 EVEN THOUGH IT IS -- I GUESS IT IS ON OVERLAY DISTRICT

10:13:20 IN EAST TAMPA.

10:13:21 >> THAT'S RIGHT.

10:13:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL ME IF SOMEBODY CAME TO YOU AND

10:13:27 SAID I WANT TO DO A FRONT PORCH, BUT MY HOUSE IS

10:13:30 ALREADY BUILT UP -- RIGHT UP TO THE SETBACK LINE, BUT I

10:13:35 STILL WANT TO DO AN EIGHT-FOOT FRONT PORCH ON MY HOUSE

10:13:38 FOR THE VARIOUS REASONS THAT I MENTIONED, WHAT -- WHAT

10:13:42 IS THE PROCESS, AND WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD THEY WOULD

10:13:44 BE ABLE TO DO THAT?

10:13:47 >> SINCE IT IS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, EAST TAMPA, THE

10:13:52 RULES TODAY UNDER 27-159.

10:13:55 YOU SEE IT ON PAGE 2 OF YOUR MEMO.

10:13:58 IT SAYS IN PARAGRAPH A 1 B.

10:14:02 IN NO CASE SHALL THE FRONT PORCH GO IN THE FRONT YARD

10:14:08 -- FRONT SETBACK AS REQUIRED BY THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

10:14:12 IN EAST TAMPA WE GO ALONG THAT BLOCK FRONT, AND IF THE

10:14:14 AVERAGE FRONT YARD IS 18.5 FEET.













10:14:17 THAN ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION OR FRONT ADDITION TO A HOME

10:14:21 WILL BE PLACED AT THE 18. -- NO CLOSER TO THE FRONT

10:14:24 PROPERTY LINE THAN 18.5 FEET.

10:14:27 NOW THIS RULE SAYS YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY PROJECT INTO THAT

10:14:29 FRONT YARD BECAUSE IT IS IN AN OVERLAY --

10:14:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT YOU CAN OR CAN'T?

10:14:32 >> YOU CANNOT.

10:14:36 UNDER THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, IF YOU NEED OR WANT A

10:14:39 CHANGE TO ANY DIMENSIONAL STANDARD OR A DESIGN

10:14:42 STANDARD, YOU GO THROUGH THE DESIGN ACCEPTANCE PROCESS.

10:14:45 AS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, GO THROUGH DESIGN EXCEPTION

10:14:48 ONE, AND CRITERIA IN THE CODE FOR HOW -- WHAT THEY HAVE

10:14:52 TO PROVIDE AND THE ARGUMENTS AND JUSTIFICATIONS.

10:14:53 IT FOR ANY REASON IT IS DENIED.

10:14:55 IF IT IS APPROVED, IT'S APPROVED.

10:14:58 IF IT IS DENIED, THE APPEAL COMES TO THE CITY COUNCIL

10:14:59 FOR PETITION FOR REVIEW.

10:15:01 YOU WOULD REVIEW THOSE DIRECTLY.

10:15:03 THERE IS A PROCESS FOR IT.

10:15:05 IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW THROUGH DESIGN

10:15:06 EXCEPTION.

10:15:09 AND THEN IF WE ARE UNABLE TO GRANT IT BASED ON THE

10:15:13 CRITERIA, IT WILL COME TO YOU ON APPEAL.

10:15:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT ONE OF THE PROCESSES WHERE

10:15:17 YOUR HANDS ARE SORT OF TIED?













10:15:19 IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGING AND THEY

10:15:23 ARE NOT MEETING THE AVERAGING, DO YOU REALLY HAVE THE

10:15:30 DISCRETION TO GIVE THEM THAT EIGHT-FOOT VARIANCE?

10:15:32 >> WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT EIGHT FEET.

10:15:35 BUT DO YOU -- THE CRITERIA -- YOU LOOK AT THE

10:15:38 TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND AND GRADING OF THE PROPERTY WHEN

10:15:41 YOU GET CLOSER TO THE RIVER THE GRADE SLOPES A LOT AND

10:15:42 YOU HAVE TO SHIFT THE HOUSE AROUND.

10:15:49 EXISTING TREES AND PROTECTIVE RADIUS FOR CANOPIES AND

10:15:51 ROOT ZONES IS PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION.

10:15:53 A LARGE TREE IN THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOUSE AND THEY

10:15:56 WANT TO PUSH IT FORWARD AND EXTEND BECAUSE THE HOUSE

10:15:59 DESIGN ALREADY HAD A PORCH, WE COULD CONSIDER THAT AS A

10:16:01 FACTOR TO ALLOW IT TO ENCROACH.

10:16:04 ALSO EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE

10:16:05 BUILDING.

10:16:07 SAY YOU ARE TEARING DOWN THE MAIN STRUCTURE BUT YOU

10:16:10 HAVE THIS REALLY COOL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT WAS PART

10:16:13 OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, MAYBE A CARRIAGE HOUSE STYLE AND

10:16:17 YOU WANT TO RE-CREATE OR REBUILD THE STYLE IN EAST

10:16:19 TAMPA ON THE MAIN HOUSE OF THE PROPERTY.

10:16:22 BUT BECAUSE WHERE THAT'S WAS BUILT HISTORICALLY, IT IS

10:16:27 CLOSER TO THE SIDE OR CLOSER TO THE BUILDING, THE NEW

10:16:29 BUILDING YOU WANT TO DO AND MIGHT PUSH THE BUILDING

10:16:29 FORWARD.













10:16:32 WE WILL CONSIDER THAT AS A FACTOR TO MOVE THE HOUSE

10:16:35 FORWARD AND ADDITIONAL ENCROACHMENT.

10:16:37 A LOT OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA WE CAN USE AND USING THE

10:16:41 EXISTING CONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY.

10:16:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS -- MR. GUDES, I KNEW YOU

10:16:46 HAD TO STEP OUT FOR BUSINESS FOR MINUTE.

10:16:49 WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DRAFTED THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE,

10:16:53 IT WAS TO ENCOURAGE AND ENABLE PEOPLE TO BUILD FRONT

10:16:54 PORCHES IF THEY WANTED TO.

10:16:57 NOT TO DEMAND IT BUT TO HELP THEM.

10:17:00 AND A GOOD PART OF THE CITY, THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

10:17:02 AND I AM GOING TO PROPOSE IN A FEW MINUTES THAT WE

10:17:07 EX-THAT TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY INCLUDING THE RS-60,

10:17:10 RS-75 AND RS-100.

10:17:12 NOW BECAUSE OF THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR WHATEVER

10:17:15 REASON, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE EAST TAMPA.

10:17:21 I AM NOT PERSUADED CATHY, UNLESS COULD YOU TELL ME

10:17:25 OTHERWISE WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO INCLUDE EAST TAMPA,

10:17:28 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS PART OF MY DISTRICT BECAUSE I AM

10:17:29 CITY-WIDE.

10:17:31 WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH THERE, I SEE A LOT OF GREAT

10:17:35 OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, FOR HOMES THAT NEVER HAD A FRONT

10:17:37 PORCH TO ADD A FRONT PORCH.

10:17:42 AND I THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD MAKE IT AS EASY AS

10:17:45 POSSIBLE UNLESS YOU CAN PERSUADE ME OTHERWISE AND MR.













10:17:47 GUDES, I THROW IT TO YOU AS WELL.

10:17:50 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT.

10:17:53 AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY THE REST OF COUNCIL.

10:17:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN YOU GO THROUGH EAST TAMPA, A LOT

10:18:05 OF TIMES YOU SEE PEOPLE OUT IN THE FRONT YARD.

10:18:08 UNDER THE TREE OF THE FRONT YARD OR THE CARPORT.

10:18:11 I REALLY DON'T HAVE A BIG ISSUE ON THAT.

10:18:14 I HAVEN'T REALLY DISCUSSED IT WITH MY WHOLE DISTRICT,

10:18:17 BUT I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE WHAT I SEE

10:18:19 VISUALLY WE ARE ALREADY ON THE FRONT PORCH AND

10:18:22 EVERYBODY IS OUT FRONT VERSUS THE BACK YARD.

10:18:26 SO I -- AND, AGAIN, IT DOES BRING GOOD STRUCTURAL

10:18:30 CHANGE TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEAUTIFY WHEN OFF FRONT

10:18:31 PORCH.

10:18:35 I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE PER SE OF SUPPORTING THE FRONT

10:18:37 PORCH INITIATIVE IN EAST TAMPA.

10:18:39 >> IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION THEN.

10:18:43 WHAT WOULD SUGGEST THE WAY WE ARE MEASURING -- WHAT WE

10:18:46 ARE MEASURING TO UNIFORM.

10:18:48 IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THE FRONT YARD AVERAGE SOMETHING

10:18:53 MEASURED TO THE FRONT FACADE THAT ALLOWS THE PORCHES TO

10:18:56 ENCROACH IN WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA REGARDLESS OF

10:18:59 THIS PARTICULAR RULE AND DOESN'T SET OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

10:19:02 IT IS TO THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE.

10:19:05 ANYTHING 36 INCHES OR HIGHER HAS TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE













10:19:07 FRONT YARD AND THIS IS WHAT WE AVERAGE TOO.

10:19:10 THE POST ON A FRONT PORCH IS WHAT WE AVERAGE TO.

10:19:14 COULD YOU CHANGE IT SO IT IS UNIFORMLY MEASURED LIKE

10:19:16 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ACROSS THE OTHER OVERLAY DISTRICTS

10:19:19 WHERE YOU ARE MESH CHUCK THE AVERAGE THAT THE FRONT

10:19:20 FACADE.

10:19:22 AND THEN IF YOU LIFT THE RULE -- THE INCLUSION FOR

10:19:25 OVERLAY DISTRICTS THEY COULD ENCROACH WITHIN LIKE THEY

10:19:27 DO IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

10:19:29 THAT WAY FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE TOO, WE

10:19:32 DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER DIFFERENT WAYS OF MEASURING AND

10:19:34 DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS.

10:19:37 IT IS UNIFORM AND WOULD GET APPLIED MORE READILY AND

10:19:40 EASILY AND PROBABLY CONSISTENTLY AS WELL.

10:19:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LAST THING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:19:47 WITH REGARDS TO PROCESS, I KNOW THAT WE -- I THINK EVEN

10:19:49 THE CODE SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT WE ONLY AMEND THE

10:19:52 CHAPTER 27 TWICE A YEAR.

10:19:57 WHEN ARE WE COMING UP ON THAT -- IT'S SORT OF NOW,

10:19:58 ISN'T IT?

10:20:00 >> IT WOULD BE THE JANUARY CYCLE.

10:20:02 WE ARE ALREADY IN THE JULY CYCLE.

10:20:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A LITTLE CHANCE TO WORK CONTINUE TO

10:20:08 NOW AND THEN GO INTO THE JANUARY CYCLE.

10:20:11 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.













10:20:14 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:20:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DESCRIBE TO THE PUBLIC 2025 WHAT IT

10:20:19 IS.

10:20:24 >> RS-50 IS A 20-FOOT FRONT YARD, THAT FRONT SETBACK,

10:20:30 RS-60, 75, 100 AND 150, A 25-FOOT SIDE SETBACK.

10:20:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING, IF I MAY.

10:20:37 I AM NOT AGAINST FRONT PORCHES.

10:20:41 I THINK FRONT PORCHES ARE UNIQUE.

10:20:45 HOWEVER, TIME HAS TAKEN CARE OF FRONT PORCHES.

10:20:49 IF SOME DISTRICTS WANT TO HAVE IT, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO

10:20:50 IT.

10:20:55 NO TELEVISION, NO CELL PHONE OR AIR CONDITIONING.

10:20:58 EVERY HOUSE WOULD HAVE A FRONT PORCH.

10:20:59 THAT IS A WAY OF COMMUNICATING.

10:21:03 I WISH I HAD A FRONT PORCH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I

10:21:04 WISH I HAVE A GARAGE.

10:21:06 I DON'T HAVE IT IN WEST TAMPA.

10:21:09 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY NOTIFICATIONS OF VIOLATIONS

10:21:12 OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.

10:21:16 IF YOU DRIVE WEST TAMPA AND I CHALLENGE ALL OF IT, THE

10:21:17 MEDIA INCLUDED.

10:21:22 DRIVE BY WEST TAMPA, AND UM FIND MORE VIOLATIONS OF

10:21:25 CARPORT VIOLATIONS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE OF

10:21:27 FLORIDA OTHER THAN HIALEAH.

10:21:28 WHY?













10:21:32 BECAUSE A LOT -- BECAUSE THE LOT SIZES ARE DIFFERENT.

10:21:35 THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT SOMETIMES IN 35-FOOT LOTS.

10:21:37 TIMES ON 55-FOOT LOTS.

10:21:39 SOMETIMES IN 60-FOOT LOT.

10:21:43 TO FIND A LOT OF 100-FOOT IN WEST TAMPA IS KIND OF

10:21:45 DIFFICULT LIKE IT IS IN MOST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:21:51 SO WE HAVE DONE VIOLATIONS AND THEY HAVE COME HERE

10:21:54 BEFORE BECAUSE NECESSITY AT SOME TIME BECAUSE OF THE

10:21:58 PRICE OF A HOUSE WAY BACK IN THE 50S AND 60S WAS LESS

10:22:02 THAN $10,000 AND THE HIGH ONES WERE $12,000 TO $15,000.

10:22:06 THEY WEREN'T DEVELOPED TO HAVE FRONT PORCHES.

10:22:08 ALL YOU HAD WAS A CARPORT.

10:22:10 THE CAR WENT IN, THE CAR WENT OUT.

10:22:13 HOWEVER, WHEN YOU EXPANDED YOUR FAMILY, WHAT DID YOU

10:22:14 HAVE AFTER THAT?

10:22:16 AN ENCLOSED CARPORT.

10:22:20 NOT ONLY A CARPORT, BUT YOU VIOLATE THE FRONT ORDINANCE

10:22:23 OF THE SETBACK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO IT.

10:22:27 SO EVERY CAR THAT YOU BUY, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR

10:22:31 WHAT YOU DO IS IN VIOLATION IF YOU BUILT ANYTHING TO

10:22:34 COVER YOUR INVESTMENT IN AN AUTOMOBILE, PAINT JOB AND

10:22:35 SO FORTH.

10:22:40 SO JUST LOOK AT -- I WISH THAT ALL COULD HAVE IT FROM

10:22:42 ONE POINT TO THE OTHER.

10:22:46 LET THEM BUILD A FRONT PORCH AND LET THEM BUILD A













10:22:49 GARAGE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF

10:22:50 LAW.

10:22:54 BECAUSE THE SETBACK IS 20 FEET FROM THE -- USUALLY FROM

10:22:57 THE TELEPHONE POLE TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

10:23:04 SO IT'S -- EAST TAMPA HAS ABOUT THE SAME PROBLEM.

10:23:07 AREAS THAT HAVE FRONT PORCHES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY

10:23:12 HOUSES WERE BUILT WITH FRONT PORCHES AND MAYBE AND I

10:23:15 DON'T KNOW WHAT DETERMINES THE SIZE OF THE FRONT PORCH,

10:23:18 SIX FEET, EIGHT FEET, TEN FEET.

10:23:21 WHEN I WAS A KID THE PORCH WAS FROM ONE SIDE OF THE

10:23:26 HOUSE A 30, 45-FOOT HOUSE, 35 FOOT -- YOU HAVE 35 FOOT

10:23:29 AT LEAST BY EIGHT FEET.

10:23:34 YOU DON'T SEE THEM BUILT LIKE THAT ANYMORE.

10:23:34 IN NUMBERS.

10:23:36 YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT WANT TO REQUIRE IT.

10:23:38 SO HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS?

10:23:41 I AM FOR LETTING ANYBODY BUILD WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD

10:23:45 ON THEIR HOUSE, THEIR LOT, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE

10:23:46 CURRENT CODE.

10:23:48 SO YOU PUSH SOME BACK.

10:23:50 CHANGE 25 IN THE BACK TO 20.

10:23:52 I DON'T KNOW.

10:23:54 THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO.

10:23:57 AIM AGAINST FRONT PORCHES, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

10:24:00 I AM ALSO NOT AGAINST BUILDING GARAGES.













10:24:03 IT LOOKS LIKE TEEPEE CITY.

10:24:04 TENTS EVERYWHERE.

10:24:06 IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE HAVING A CARNIVAL COMING IN

10:24:07 TOMORROW.

10:24:10 IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, TAKE A RIDE WITH ME.

10:24:12 I THINK YOU HAVE ALREADY.

10:24:15 SO IT IS JUST NOT -- WHAT YOU HAVE IN SOME PARTS OF THE

10:24:18 CITIES BECAUSE OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THE

10:24:22 SETBACKS THAT WE HAVE DOES NOT FIT THE WHOLE CITY.

10:24:24 THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.

10:24:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:24:27 ANYONE ELSE?

10:24:28 OKAY.

10:24:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:24:30 >> NO PROBLEM.

10:24:31 >>LUIS VIERA: APPRECIATE IT.

10:24:35 ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS WORKSHOP.

10:24:38 COME FORWARD, MR. MICHELINI.

10:24:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WANT MOTIONS LATER.

10:24:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

10:24:46 >> GOOD MORNING, STEVE MICHELINI.

10:24:50 I THINK ALLOWING THOSE FRONT PORCH SETBACKS BEING

10:24:53 INCLUDED AS AN ALLOWABLE CONSTRUCTION IS IMPORTANT

10:24:59 BECAUSE MR. DINGFELDER AND MR. CITRO HAVE SEEN ME

10:25:04 APPEAR FOR SIMPLE THINGS LIKE PORCHES THAT ARE













10:25:09 UNENCLOSED AND THEY ARE AN ENERGY-SHADING DEVICE.

10:25:12 THEY SHADE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND CREATE A ENERGY

10:25:15 EFFICIENT ENVELOPE FOR THE REMAINING PART OF THE HOUSE.

10:25:15 IT IS USEFUL.

10:25:18 I AM NOT SURE THAT EVERYONE IS GOING TO USE THEM BUT

10:25:21 THEY ARE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

10:25:22 ARE ASKING FOR THEM.

10:25:27 THEY -- KIDS WANT TO PLAY ON THE FRONT PORCHES ON RAINY

10:25:29 DAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

10:25:33 YOU ARE ADDING AN EXTRAORDINARY EXPENSE FOR SOMEONE TO

10:25:36 GET A PORCH BY GOING TO THE VRB AND ADDING AN

10:25:39 EXTRAORDINARY PROCESS IF YOU MAKE THEM GO THROUGH A

10:25:40 DESIGN EXCEPTION.

10:25:43 SO EITHER WAY, I MEAN, YOU ARE GOING TO LOAD THE STAFF

10:25:48 UP WITH DESIGN EXCEPTION OR THE VRB WITH THE ASK FOR A

10:25:51 WAIVER FOR THE SETBACK FOR A PORCH IS NOT ENCLOSED.

10:25:55 SO I WOULD ASK TO YOU LOOK AT NOT REQUIRING A DESIGN

10:25:58 EXCEPTION AND NOT REQUIRING THE VRB AND MAKE IT

10:26:02 ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT TO ADD A PORCH IF YOU WISH.

10:26:03 THANK YOU.

10:26:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:26:07 ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:26:08 OKAY.

10:26:10 NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW

10:26:11 BUSINESS.













10:26:12 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:26:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:26:16 WOULD YOU LIKE MOTIONS AT THIS TIME?

10:26:17 >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE.

10:26:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT

10:26:26 EXCELLENT REPORT MISS COYLE AND CATE, WELCOME BACK.

10:26:27 APPRECIATE IT.

10:26:30 I AM GLAD YOU ARE JOINING US IN HELPING THE -- US WITH

10:26:33 OUR ZONING MATTERS FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

10:26:39 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO -- TO MOVE TO DIRECT THE

10:26:44 PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE LEGAL STAFF TO IN THE

10:26:48 JANUARY CYCLE TO BRING US BACK AN AMENDMENT TO THE

10:26:51 RELEVANT PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 27 AND THE REST OF THE

10:26:58 CODE AND EXPAND THE FRONT PORCH PROGRAM OR FRONT PORCH

10:27:02 OPTION WHICH RIGHT NOW I GUESS IS 27-159 BUT ANYWHERE

10:27:08 ELSE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE RS-60,

10:27:18 RS-75, RS-100 AND RS-150 ZONING DISTRICTS AS MISS COYLE

10:27:21 SAID LOOK AT THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS IN EAST TAMPA AND

10:27:29 WEST TAMPA THAT IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AND RELEVANT --

10:27:31 NOT IRRELEVANT BUT RELEVANT TO INCLUDE THESE DISTRICTS

10:27:36 AND TO INCLUDE THE DISTRICTS TO MAKE IT AS EASY AND

10:27:40 SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO ADD AN EIGHT-FOOT

10:27:45 NEVER TO BE ENCLOSED FRONT PORCH.

10:27:47 AND WE FORGET TO DISCUSS THIS.

10:27:52 TO TWEAK THE EXISTING CODE TO CREATE A MINIMUM FRONT













10:27:52 PORCH.

10:27:56 SO, IN OTHER WORDS, SOME OF THESE NEW BIG HOUSES, THEY

10:28:02 -- THEY THROW IN THESE, LIKE, THREE-FOOT-DEEP PORCHES.

10:28:04 AND I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T DO THAT, BUT WHAT I AM

10:28:09 SAYING IS, DON'T PLAY GAMES, DON'T TRY TO USE THIS CODE

10:28:12 PROVISION TO BUILD SOME LITTLE THREE-FOOT FRONT PORCH

10:28:16 THAT NOBODY CAN USE AND POSTS IN IT ALSO AND THAT SORT

10:28:16 OF THING.

10:28:18 IF YOU WERE GOING TO USE THIS PROVISION, IT NEEDS TO

10:28:22 BE, LET'S SAY, A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET FOR THE FRONT

10:28:26 PORCH AND THE MAXIMUM STAYS THE SAME AT EIGHT FEET.

10:28:28 MR. MIRANDA, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

10:28:31 I THINK IF YOU WANT TO, AT SOME FUTURE DATE OR

10:28:35 SOMETHING, WE SHOULD PERHAPS EXPLORE THIS ISSUE OF

10:28:35 GARAGES.

10:28:38 BECAUSE I DO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

10:28:43 JOE AND I SAW THIS OFTEN IN THE VRB, WHERE THEY PUT UP,

10:28:48 LIKE YOU SAID THE TENT, THE LIE N TO.

10:28:51 THE THIS AND THAT BECAUSE THEY KIND OF MAXED OUT THEIR

10:28:51 YARDS.

10:28:55 BUT ANYWAY, I WILL KEEP MY MOTION PURE WITH REGARD TO

10:28:57 FRONT PORCHES AND GO FROM THERE.

10:28:59 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:29:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.

10:29:05 AND ALSO IF THIS PROPOSAL ON FRONT PORCHES, YOU ALSO













10:29:07 SHOULD INCLUDE THE EXISTING HOMES.

10:29:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO.

10:29:09 I DID.

10:29:11 IT INCLUDES NEW CONSTRUCTION AND EXISTING AND --

10:29:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AGAINST THAT.

10:29:15 I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL THING.

10:29:18 YOU KNOW WHAT, IT MAY ADD TO A CHANGE OF QUALITY OF

10:29:18 LIFE.

10:29:22 THINGS HAVE DONE SO FAST AND SO QUICK NOW THAT YOU

10:29:26 DON'T KNOW WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS.

10:29:30 SOME OF US THINK WE KNOW, BUT WE REALLY DON'T.

10:29:31 WE DON'T KNOW THEIR NAMES.

10:29:33 WE JUST KNOW THE COLOR OF THEIR CAR.

10:29:34 THAT'S IT.

10:29:36 THAT'S ALL YOU SEE.

10:29:37 THANK YOU.

10:29:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:29:44 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:29:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED OR DO YOU NEED A

10:29:48 SECOND?

10:29:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO.

10:29:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAYBE THAT WILL HAVE THE PERSON GET

10:29:58 OFF THE COUCH TO PLAY GAMEBOY -- EXCUSE ME, HULU.

10:30:00 >> I HAVEN'T PLAYED VIDEO GAMES.

10:30:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT PONG?













10:30:04 [LAUGHTER]

10:30:07 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:30:10 >>BILL CARLSON: NOW IT IS KIDS WATCHING YOUTUBE VIDEO

10:30:14 OF OTHER KIDS PLAYING GAMEBOY.

10:30:17 >> REGARDLESS, ANY KIND OF HAND-HELD DEVICE.

10:30:20 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND

10:30:24 SECT BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:30:25 ANY OPPOSED?

10:30:26 ANYTHING ELSE.

10:30:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A SHOUT OUT TO OUR CHIEF OF STAFF

10:30:33 JOHN BENNETT WHO AT 2:00 THIS MORNING BECAME A GRAND

10:30:34 FEATHER FOR THE SECOND TIME.

10:30:34 [APPLAUSE]

10:30:37 AND HE REPORTED TO WORK AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING IN

10:30:42 ADDITION TO GOING TO KISS HIS NEW GRANDSON.

10:30:45 >> TEXTED ME LAST NIGHT TOO.

10:30:46 >> SOUNDS LIKE HIM.

10:30:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONGRATULATIONS, JOHN.

10:30:51 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:30:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EARLIER YOU HEARD MR. ROBINSON COME

10:30:57 FORWARD IN REFERENCE TO THE SUPER BOWL A WONDERFUL

10:30:58 THING TO COME TO OUR CITY.

10:31:02 TO REACH OUT TO THE SUPER BOWL TASK FORCE TO PROVIDE A

10:31:05 REPORT FOR WOMEN AND MINORITY PARTICIPATION FOR SUPER

10:31:09 BOWL 55 AND THE EMERGENCY BUSINESS PROGRAM.













10:31:13 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SEND BY

10:31:15 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:31:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:31:17 ANY OPPOSED?

10:31:18 ANYTHING ELSE?

10:31:19 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:31:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS

10:31:24 APPROPRIATE NOW OR FOR TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS A WORKSHOP.

10:31:28 I WOULD LIKE OUR ATTORNEY, MR. SHELBY, TO ASSIST IN

10:31:33 DRAFTING A RESOLUTION WHICH I HAVE THE WORDS FOR.

10:31:35 ST. PETERSBURG DID SOMETHING SIMILAR.

10:31:39 RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF HR 1384, WHICH IS THE MEDICARE

10:31:44 FOR ALL ACT OF 2019 URGING THE FEDERAL DELEGATION TO

10:31:49 SUPPORT AND PASS HR 1384 MEDICARE FOR ALL.

10:31:50 >> SECOND.

10:31:53 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE -- AND I WILL COMMENT ON THAT I

10:31:56 GUESS IF I WILL, WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF

10:31:57 MEDICARE FOR ALL.

10:32:00 I STRONGLY SUPPORT UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE.

10:32:02 I FEEL THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THERE.

10:32:05 YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE.

10:32:09 PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT TALKED ABOUT GETTING IT IN

10:32:10 THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT.

10:32:13 NEVER FORMALLY PUT IN.

10:32:16 PRESIDENT HARRY TRUMAN THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO PROPOSE A













10:32:20 NATIONAL HEALTH CARE LAW WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN MEDICARE

10:32:21 LAW.

10:32:24 AND JOHNSON WOULD PASS MEDICARE WITH THE IDEA OF

10:32:27 EXPANDING IT BIT BY BIT.

10:32:32 UNDER PRESIDENT CLINTON, A PAY OR PLAY AND MORE MARKET

10:32:33 WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

10:32:36 I THINK THERE ARE VARIOUS METHODS OF WHICH WE CAN DO

10:32:36 IT.

10:32:39 I WANT TO LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION IN TERMS OF GOING

10:32:40 FORWARD ON THIS.

10:32:44 FROM THE TIME I WAS, GOSH, 18 YEARS OLD A STRONG

10:32:46 SUPPORTER OF UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND A LOT OF

10:32:48 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS.

10:32:50 I WILL SUPPORT THIS AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION

10:32:51 GOING FORWARD.

10:32:51 ANYONE ELSE?

10:32:54 OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:32:56 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:32:58 IN ALL FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.

10:33:01 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

10:33:02 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:33:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:33:08 I WOULD LIKE TO AWARD A COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF TAMPA

10:33:11 CITY COUNCIL TO THE KIWANIS CLUB OF TAMPA.

10:33:14 THEY ARE CELEBRATING THEIR 100TH ANNIVERSARY THIS













10:33:17 FRIDAY AND THE COMMENDATION GIVEN OFF -- OFF LOCATION.

10:33:19 AND I WILL BE PRESENTING IT AT THEIR MEETING -- AT

10:33:23 THEIR -- EXCUSE ME THEIR BANQUET FRIDAY NIGHT.

10:33:27 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, A SECOND

10:33:29 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:33:33 ANY OPPOSED?

10:33:34 ANYTHING ELSE.

10:33:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DONATELLO'S RESTAURANT.

10:33:39 >> SECOND.

10:33:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY.

10:33:43 MANY YEARS EVERY THANKSGIVING -- AND IT STARTED WAY

10:33:46 BACK INTO THE FREEMAN ADMINISTRATION WITH FREEMAN AND

10:33:50 BOBBY BOWDEN AND MARVIN KNIGHT AND OTHERS, THEY STAND

10:33:54 THERE AND GIVE FREE THANKSGIVING DINNERS -- BETWEEN 800

10:33:56 AND 1,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY

10:34:00 YEARS BUT WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT AND SET A DATE AND

10:34:05 GET THE PROCLAMATION -- COMMENDATION DONE FOR DONATE

10:34:09 LL'S RESTAURANT AND THE CALENDAR AND HOW FAR CAN I PUT

10:34:10 IT OUT.

10:34:14 >>LUIS VIERA: IS NOVEMBER 7 OKAY? \WE DON'T HAVE ANY

10:34:16 COMMENDATIONS THAT DAY.

10:34:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF NOVEMBER 7 IS AVAILABLE, WE WILL

10:34:19 MAKE AVAILABLE.

10:34:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT OKAY WITH YOU GUYS?

10:34:25 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN













10:34:26 MANISCALCO.

10:34:29 ANYTHING ELSE?

10:34:30 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:34:33 >>BILL CARLSON: I HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS -- AND

10:34:37 MAYBE YOU ALL DO TOO -- OF PARKING AROUND CONSTRUCTION.

10:34:41 YOU WILL FIND THIS OUT TOMORROW IN TAMPA IN PARTICULAR.

10:34:42 >> GOOD TO SHOW.

10:34:44 >>BILL CARLSON: ANYWAY, A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT

10:34:45 THAT.

10:34:48 AND FOLKS HAVE TOLD ME THAT IN OTHER CITIES, WHEN

10:34:52 CONSTRUCTION PLAN IS PUT FORTH, THERE HAS TO BE A

10:34:55 PARKING PLAN TOO WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK

10:34:58 SO THAT AT LEAST IS APPROVED AND PLANNED THROUGH THE

10:34:58 CITY.

10:35:01 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY STAFF COME

10:35:05 BACK US MAYBE JANUARY 9 IN A STAFF REPORT TO GIVE US

10:35:09 ADVICE ON WHETHER WE SHOULD ADOPT POLICIES REGARDING

10:35:16 PLANS FOR PARKING ON CONSTRUCTION SITES.

10:35:19 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:35:21 A FIRST SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:35:22 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:35:27 ANY OPPOSED?

10:35:28 IF I MAY, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

10:35:30 I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY.

10:35:32 WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.













10:35:34 NEXT WEEK THE ATU COMMENDATION.

10:35:37 WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS.

10:35:43 JESSES FROM MR. MICHELINI AND SOME HIS CLIENTS, BILL

10:35:50 CURRIE, STEPP'S TOWING, CASPER AND BUSCH GARDENS.

10:35:53 WE HAVE HIGH PARTICIPATION IN THIS AND WE ARE EXCITED

10:35:56 AND GOES A LONG WAY IN HONORING WORK.

10:35:58 SECOND I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION IF I MAY.

10:35:59 I KNOW IT GOT OUT IN THE MEDIA.

10:36:02 A MOTION FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION

10:36:06 SUPPORTING FEDERAL LEGISLATION BANNING THE SALE,

10:36:08 TRANSFER, MANUFACTURER OF ASSAULT WEAPONS AND

10:36:11 HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES THAT ARE FREQUENTLY USED IN

10:36:14 MASS SHOOTINGS INCLUDING IN TWO OF THE MASS SHOOTINGS

10:36:17 WE HAD HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IN PARKLAND AS

10:36:21 WELL AS OBVIOUSLY IN PULSE OVER IN ORLANDO.

10:36:25 TO ME THE REASON I PURSUED THIS WAS, NUMBER ONE, WE

10:36:27 OBVIOUSLY HAD THE MAYOR OF CLEARWATER COME FORWARD AND

10:36:31 I THINK TAKE WHAT WAS A REALLY COURAGEOUS POSITION IN

10:36:34 THAT REGARD SEEKING TO HAVE HIS CITY COUNCIL PASS A

10:36:36 SIMILAR RESOLUTION.

10:36:38 AN INDIVIDUAL FROM A POLITICAL PARTY THAT COMES FROM

10:36:41 THE ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T HISTORICALLY SUPPORT THAT.

10:36:47 I DRAW DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND

10:36:50 EVERYDAY FOLKS POLLS SHOW THAT 60% OF REPUBLICANS

10:36:54 ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL REVIEW WOULD SUPPORT SUCH A













10:36:55 BAN.

10:36:56 IN EFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE FORGET -- TALKING ABOUT

10:37:00 HISTORY -- THAT IN 2000, PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

10:37:04 ACTUALLY RAN ON CONTINUING THE 1994 ASSAULT WEAPONS

10:37:05 BAN.

10:37:09 AND WHEN IT CAME UP IN 2004 FOR REAUTHORIZATION BY

10:37:11 CONGRESS, HIS WHITE HOUSE ACTUALLY SUPPORTED THAT

10:37:12 REAUTHORIZATION.

10:37:15 AND HE WAS A PRETTY DARN CONSERVATIVE GUY.

10:37:18 SO I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THIS AS A PARTISAN ISSUE

10:37:20 WHENEVER IT COMES TO EVERYDAY FOLKS.

10:37:23 I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE REASONABLE VOICES TO BE

10:37:27 INVOLVED ON THIS ISSUE, TO MOVE THE GOALPOST ON WHAT IS

10:37:30 REASONABLE WITH REGARD TO GUN SAFETY ISSUES.

10:37:33 WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT ISSUES SUCH AS TAKING A LOOK AT

10:37:37 HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES, ASSAULT WEAPONS, UNIVERSAL

10:37:40 BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE TOXIC.

10:37:42 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

10:37:44 THAT IS NOT TOXIC.

10:37:47 WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THAT WE

10:37:50 HAVE THESE COMMONSENSE REGULATIONS AND SHOWER THIS UP

10:37:52 AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT OR THE RIGHT OF

10:37:55 LAW-ABIDING AMERICANS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BY BEARING

10:37:55 ARMS.

10:37:59 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE IN CONFLICT AT ALL WHAT













10:38:00 CHAUFFEUR -- HERE COMES SAL.

10:38:00 [ LAUGHTER ]

10:38:06 I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE IN CONFLICT WHATSOEVER.

10:38:08 I AM LAUGHING, STOP ME -- I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE

10:38:10 IN CONFLICT WHATSOEVER.

10:38:14 AND I THINK THAT THIS RESOLUTION AND SOLELY THIS

10:38:17 RESOLUTION AND WELL AWARE OF THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE'S

10:38:21 -- YEAH, SO THIS IS SOLELY A RESOLUTION STATING CITY

10:38:23 COUNCIL'S PREFERENCE.

10:38:25 NOTHING THAT WILL RUN AFOUL WITH FLORIDA LAW OR BY THE

10:38:26 WAY THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

10:38:28 DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

10:38:30 >> SAL WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

10:38:32 I THINK YOU ARE ON VERY THIN ICE RIGHT HERE.

10:38:34 IF YOU ASK US TO LOOK INTO THAT BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING

10:38:37 BECAUSE THE PROVISIONS IN THE STATUTE ARE VERY STRONG.

10:38:40 NO RESOLUTIONS, NO ORDINANCES, NO POLICIES.

10:38:42 YOU CAN DISCUSS IT ALL YOU WANT, BUT ONCE YOU COME OUT

10:38:45 WITH SOMETHING FORMAL, THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE.

10:38:48 ASK US TO LOOK IT OVER BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

10:38:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I DID CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S

10:38:54 OFFICE BEFORE, AND I WAS -- I BELIEVE I WAS GIVEN A

10:38:55 GREEN LIGHT.

10:38:58 IF YOU AS YOUR COUNSEL TELL US FURTHER INVESTIGATION

10:39:00 THAT GREEN LIGHT, HOW WOULD YOU --













10:39:04 >> IF THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID IT WAS FINE, I WILL BACK

10:39:04 OFF.

10:39:06 I DIDN'T KNOW YOU SPOKE WITH HER.

10:39:08 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME DO THIS.

10:39:12 HOW ABOUT WHEN WE BRING BACK THE RESOLUTION WE GET A

10:39:13 SECOND BLESSING FROM YOU.

10:39:15 >> I'LL TALK TO HER ABOUT THAT.

10:39:17 >>LUIS VIERA: MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GREEN LIGHT

10:39:20 WAS GIVEN, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

10:39:22 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:39:25 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR COMING IN HERE.

10:39:26 I HAD CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS AS WELL.

10:39:31 BEFORE WE VOTE ON ANYTHING, EVEN IF IT IS TO ASK FOR A

10:39:34 LEGAL OPINION OR IF IT IS TO ASK TO SCHEDULE TO VOTE ON

10:39:37 THIS, CAN SOMEBODY IN LEGAL JUST GIVE US A PUBLIC GREEN

10:39:39 LIGHT THAT YOU -- THAT YOU AGREE THAT WE ARE NOT IN

10:39:41 VIOLATION OF LAW?

10:39:44 >> THE DOWN SIDE OF THIS AS WELL IS EVEN IF THE CITY

10:39:46 ATTORNEY -- I AM NOT SAYING SHE GAVE YOU THE WRONG

10:39:46 OPINION.

10:39:49 EVEN IF THE CITY ATTORNEY GIVES YOU THE OPINION AND

10:39:52 THEY WANT TO CHALLENGE IT, OUR OPINION IS WORTH

10:39:55 NOTHING.

10:39:57 >> AS AN ATTORNEY MYSELF, WHAT I WILL DO IS HOW ABOUT

10:40:00 WE COME BACK -- IS NEXT WEEK FINE?













10:40:01 >> CERTAINLY.

10:40:03 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE COME NEXT WEEK FOR THE

10:40:07 LEGAL OPINION AND TAKE THE VOTE AT THAT TIME OUT OF AN

10:40:08 ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

10:40:10 I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

10:40:13 AND WAIT -- SORRY --

10:40:16 >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO NOW

10:40:19 YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I ALWAYS LOOK AT SAL AND SAY SAL,

10:40:22 STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE AT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT

10:40:23 HE IS COMING FROM.

10:40:24 THANK YOU, SAL.

10:40:26 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WILL ASK THAT YOU COME BACK NEXT

10:40:30 WEEK TO PROSPECTIVELY GIVE US THE FORMAL GREEN LIGHT ON

10:40:33 THIS, AND THEN AT THAT TIME, I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION

10:40:38 FORMALLY.

10:40:42 >> SORRY, SAL, WITH THAT ARE WE IN VIOLATION BY MAKING

10:40:43 THAT MOTION?

10:40:45 >> NO, NOT BY ASKING US TO LOOK INTO IT.

10:40:47 THE QUESTION WAS, IF YOU PASS SOMETHING -- THE DOWN

10:40:50 SIDE OF IT IS EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S LEGAL OPINION IS

10:40:51 NOT PROTECTED.

10:40:53 THAT IS THE CONCERN WE HAVE.

10:40:56 SO WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT CAREFULLY TO

10:40:57 SEE IF WE ARE SKIRTING IT.

10:41:00 BECAUSE THEY ARE SAYING POLICIES, MOTIONS, RESOLUTIONS,













10:41:03 ORDINANCES, WE GOT TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE MORE

10:41:06 THOROUGHLY AND IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FROM THAT, I WILL

10:41:08 TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY OF THAT.

10:41:10 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN.

10:41:12 >> I WILL TELL YOU THIS, JUST THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE GOT

10:41:16 TO LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT A RESOLUTION -- AGAIN, IT

10:41:18 SPEAKS TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS HOW THE

10:41:21 GOALPOSTS HAVE BEEN SO RADICALLY -- I USE THE WORD

10:41:25 "RADICALLY" CHANGED ON THIS ISSUE WHERE EVEN BEING ABLE

10:41:30 TO TALK ABOUT IT IMPLICATES POTENTIALLY BEING SUED AND

10:41:32 HAVING TO HAVE LAWYERS TALK ABOUT IT.

10:41:36 SINCE WHEN HAVE THESE ISSUES GOTTEN SO RADICALLY

10:41:38 CONSTRUED.

10:41:42 TO ME THESE ARE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, COMMONSENSE ISSUE

10:41:45 THAT'S SUPPORTED BY THE MAJORITY -- THE SUPERMAJORITY

10:41:47 OF AMERICAN PEOPLE AND EVEN THE FACT -- AGAIN YOU ARE

10:41:51 JUST THE MESSENGER OF THE LAW AND TRUST ME, I GET THAT

10:41:52 110%.

10:41:54 EVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE HOOPS

10:41:57 JUST SHOWS US HOW OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE FAILED US

10:41:58 ON SO MANY ISSUES.

10:42:04 THOSE WHO ARE PROMULGATED THESE RULES AND LAWS, ET

10:42:05 CETERA.

10:42:10 IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

10:42:13 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.













10:42:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR

10:42:15 BRINGING THAT UP.

10:42:18 BRINGS UP THE BIGGER PICTURE OF PREEMPTION.

10:42:21 FOR THOSE OF US WHO WENT TO THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF

10:42:23 CITIES MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THAT WAS A BIG

10:42:27 TOPIC.

10:42:31 THE LEGISLATURE IN ITS INFINITE WISDOM HAS DECIDED THAT

10:42:32 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

10:42:35 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AND, THEREFORE, THEY

10:42:38 WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO CONTROL LOCAL ISSUES.

10:42:41 ON THIS GUN ISSUE, THEY WENT VERY EXTREME WITH THESE

10:42:43 PENALTIES.

10:42:47 FORTUNATELY A JUDGE IN TALLAHASSEE, CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE

10:42:51 IN TALLAHASSEE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO STRUCK DOWN THOSE

10:42:54 PENALTIES AND THAT IS NOW GOING UP ON APPEAL WHICH WILL

10:42:57 BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT ENDS UP.

10:43:04 BUT AS THE LAW READS RIGHT AND SAL ALLUDED TO.

10:43:07 AN ORDINANCE WITH A GUN IMPLICATION UNDER THE PRIOR

10:43:14 LAW, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND

10:43:17 REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND TOTALLY RIDICULOUS AND AN

10:43:22 IMPOSITION ON OUR RIGHTS, OUR FIRST-AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

10:43:25 AND WITH REGARDS TO PREEMPTION, AND WE WILL BE

10:43:28 DISCUSSING THIS IN OTHER CONTEXT, YOU KNOW THEY

10:43:29 PREEMPTED.

10:43:32 THIS COMMUNITY WORKED TO THAN TREE ORDINANCE FOR A













10:43:32 YEAR.

10:43:37 I MEAN THREE OF YOU GUYS WERE INVOLVED IN THAT.

10:43:41 Y'ALL WORKED ON THAT TREE ORDINANCE FOR A YEAR WITH THE

10:43:42 COMMUNITY -- WITH THE BUILDING COMMUNITY.

10:43:44 WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYBODY.

10:43:50 YOU CAME TO SOME GOOD COMPROMISES WITH THE TREE

10:43:51 ORDINANCE.

10:43:54 AND THREE MONTHS LATER TALLAHASSEE SAYS WE WILL TAKE

10:43:58 THAT AWAY FROM YOU, TOO, AND THE NEW PREEXEMPTION AND

10:44:02 BASICALLY GUTTING THE HARD WORK THIS COMMUNITY HAS

10:44:02 DONE.

10:44:04 ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL.

10:44:06 THE COMMUNITIES IN THIS STATE.

10:44:10 HOW LONG IS IT FROM PENSACOLA DOWN TO KEY WEST, 700 TO

10:44:12 800 MILES AND THE COMMUNITIES DIFFER.

10:44:15 THEY ARE SMALL, THEY ARE LARGE, THEY ARE URBAN AND

10:44:17 RURAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE STATE WANTS TO

10:44:21 PREEMPT AND SAYING, NO, ONE SIZE FITS ALL AND THAT IS

10:44:22 WRONGS.

10:44:27 ANYWAY, AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A BODY WE NEED TO SEND A

10:44:30 MESSAGE TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND ALL STATE LEGISLATORS TO

10:44:36 RESCIND THIS PREEMPTION NONSENSE AND RETAIN LOCAL

10:44:39 CONTROL BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR COMMUNITY BEST, AND THEY

10:44:40 DON'T.

10:44:43 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO.













10:44:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:44:48 AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:44:51 I WAS GOING TO COUNT ON THE SAME THING AND SAL IS

10:44:53 PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK AT ME.

10:44:55 BUT WE HAVE MANY THINGS THAT GO FORTH.

10:44:56 TREE ORDINANCE IS ONE.

10:44:59 I FEEL STRONG OF CHANGING SOME OF THE RULES FOR THE GUN

10:45:02 SHOWS AND WEAPONS SOLD THROUGH THE NEWSPAPER.

10:45:05 MARIJUANA GROW HOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION.

10:45:08 THE CITY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A MAJOR SAY IN

10:45:10 THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

10:45:14 I AGREE WITH YOU, HOME RULE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN

10:45:16 THE AUDIENCE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AT HOME, IF YOU WANT

10:45:20 TO SEE SOME SORT OF RULES THINK ABOUT COUNCIL BEING

10:45:24 ADOPTED, CONTACT YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND YOUR

10:45:27 STATE SENATORS AND SAY HOME RULE HAS TO COME BACK.

10:45:29 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:45:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE

10:45:34 QUESTION OUR FIRST AMENDMENT TO DISCUSS THE SECOND

10:45:35 AMENDMENT.

10:45:37 I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

10:45:39 I WAS TALKING WITH FRIENDS LATE LAST NIGHT ABOUT THIS

10:45:41 ISSUE.

10:45:44 AND YOU KNOW THEY HAD THEIR VIEWS ON -- ON GUNS IN

10:45:47 GENERAL AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT, RED FLAG LAWS IN THE













10:45:50 STATE OF FLORIDA AND WHAT NOT, BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO

10:45:50 COMMON SENSE?

10:45:55 YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS MASS SHOOTINGS, SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

10:45:58 -- WHEN I WAS GROWING UP WHICH ISN'T LONG AGO.

10:45:59 I AM STILL GROWING UP.

10:46:01 YOU HAD AN ISSUE WITH SOMEONE WOULD YOU TAKE IT TO THE

10:46:03 PLAYGROUND AND FIGHT AND FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT AND

10:46:06 THE PRINCIPAL WOULD COME OUT AND SEPARATE YOU AND YOU

10:46:07 GET DETENTION.

10:46:10 NOW YOU WATCH THE NEWS, SO MANY STUDENTS KILLED.

10:46:13 FRIENDS OF MINE THAT ARE TEACHER THAT'S WORRY ABOUT

10:46:14 THESE ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS.

10:46:17 EMPLOYERS, ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL.

10:46:20 WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE COMES INTO YOUR WORKPLACE WITH

10:46:24 A FIREARM AND STARTS FIRING UP.

10:46:27 THE TERM "GOING POSTAL" WHICH GOES BACK TO OTHER

10:46:28 SHOOTINGS BACK IN THE DAY.

10:46:33 I WONDER -- NOT TO GET TOO RELIGIOUS AND PHILOSOPHICAL.

10:46:38 DOES GOD LOOK AT US AND ASK, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE

10:46:38 PEOPLE?

10:46:40 WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OURSELVES?

10:46:43 YOU LOOK ON WHAT IS GOING ON DAY TO DAY, I DON'T WANT

10:46:46 TO SAY DESENSITIZED AND YOU WATCH THE NEWS AND SO

10:46:46 COMMON.

10:46:51 WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL IT WAS CASLUM WINE AND I WAS A













10:46:54 FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND IT HAPPENED TO HIGH SCHOOL

10:46:58 STUDENTS AND YOU THOUGHT THINGS WOULD CHANGE AND THE

10:47:03 BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND HOW THINGS WERE IN 2000 AND

10:47:04 2004.

10:47:05 MAYBE SOCIAL MEDIA.

10:47:08 GOD FORBID YOU TALK OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

10:47:12 THEY ARE COMING AFTER US, INFRINGING ON OUR RIGHTS.

10:47:15 THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT LEGALLY, IF WE SAY

10:47:18 SOMETHING OR MENTION IT, IF THEY CAN READ OUR MINDS.

10:47:19 IF WE THINK SOMETHING.

10:47:23 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP, CHAIRMAN VIERA, AND

10:47:26 WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT LEGAL

10:47:27 OPINIONS AND WHAT NOT.

10:47:31 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:47:32 >>LUIS VIERA: NO MOTION.

10:47:36 I WAS TOLD SOMEONE ELSE FROM LEGAL -- CAN I MAKE

10:47:38 ANOTHER MOTION WHEN WE WAIT.

10:47:38 >> SURE.

10:47:41 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO REMOVE THE WATER WISE

10:47:44 COMMENDATION FROM OCTOBER 3 TO OCTOBER 10.

10:47:46 ALL PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO THIS CHANGE.

10:47:49 >> A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM

10:47:52 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:47:54 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:47:55 >> I THINK SOMEONE IS COMING.













10:47:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, BECAUSE

10:48:01 THIS CONVERSATION INSPIRED ME TO DO A MOTION THAT I

10:48:04 THINK WE CAN DO.

10:48:09 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND ANY

10:48:15 RELEVANT STAFF TO LOOK INTO DOING A JOINT RESOLUTION

10:48:22 FROM THIS -- FROM THIS BODY AS WELL AS THE OTHER

10:48:24 MUNICIPALITIES.

10:48:26 THE TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY AND THE HILLSBOROUGH

10:48:28 COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

10:48:35 AND FEDERAL A JOINT RESOLUTION AGAINST PREEMPTION AND

10:48:37 JOE MENTIONED FOR HOME RULE.

10:48:40 I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE BUT I AM SURE GOOD

10:48:42 LANGUAGE THAT THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND

10:48:45 THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS

10:48:48 ISSUE AND THAT WAY ALL THE JURISDICTION AS A UNITED

10:48:52 BODY, WE CAN SEND THAT TO OUR LOCAL DELEGATION AND IF

10:48:57 APPROPRIATE TO TALLAHASSEE AS WELL AND TO THE GOVERNOR,

10:49:00 AND SAY LET'S RESCIND THIS PREEXEMPTION NONSENSE AND GO

10:49:02 BACK TO HOME RULE.

10:49:06 SO THAT IS MY MOTION, AND I KNOW.

10:49:06 >> I'LL SECOND THAT.

10:49:09 AN INSPIRED MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:49:11 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:49:11 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:49:13 ANY OPPOSED?













10:49:14 DO OFF DATE FOR THAT.

10:49:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TAKE A WHILE TO OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH

10:49:21 OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND COME BACK IN A MONTH OR SO,

10:49:23 REGULAR MEETING.

10:49:24 >>LUIS VIERA: SO WE WILL DO --

10:49:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY SUGGESTIONS REGULAR MEETING.

10:49:36 >>LUIS VIERA: NOVEMBER 7?

10:49:37 OKAY.

10:49:40 >> A LOT OF WORK THERE, MR. CHAIR.

10:49:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE RIGHT.

10:49:44 HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER 21.

10:49:44 THAT APPEARS TO BE.

10:49:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE

10:49:47 TWO PHASES.

10:49:50 MAYBE STAFF NEEDS TO COME BACK AND BRING US A DRAFT SO

10:49:51 WE ARE GOOD WITH IT.

10:49:54 AND THEN WE WILL SEND IT OUT TO THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS

10:49:56 SORT OF AS A SECOND PHASE.

10:50:01 >>LUIS VIERA: NOVEMBER 21 OKAY?

10:50:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOVEMBER 7 FOR THE FIRST DRAFT.

10:50:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT DAY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE,

10:50:08 SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE.

10:50:12 YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO IS -- CAN'T THEY BRING A DRAFT

10:50:13 BY E-MAIL TO US?

10:50:16 I MEAN AND LOOK AT IT.













10:50:16 IS THAT --

10:50:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS FINE.

10:50:20 WE CAN'T COMMENT ON IT.

10:50:23 >> WE CAN GREEN LIGHT WITH THE WHOLE THING.

10:50:24 YES, SIR?

10:50:26 >> TOM, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF GOING TO THE LEAGUE OF

10:50:29 CITIES AND TRYING TO DO ONE STATEWIDE.

10:50:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE STATEWIDE WITH ALL

10:50:34 JURISDICTIONS?

10:50:38 >> SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DO IS SYMBOLIC AND TO

10:50:40 ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING DONE WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT.

10:50:43 THE OTHER THING THAT WE -- I PROPOSE AND Y'ALL

10:50:46 SUPPORTED A WHILE BACK WAS THESE -- THESE STATEWIDE

10:50:52 LAWSUIT ABOUT SEVERAL OF THESE PREEMPTIONS AND I HAD A

10:50:55 LONG CONVERSATION WITH GINA ABOUT IT AND WE REPORTED

10:50:56 THAT BACK.

10:50:59 LIKE ON -- THE ONE ON THE TOPIC -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO

10:51:00 SAY IT.

10:51:04 ONE ON THE TOPIC THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

10:51:05 ALREADY HAVE BEEN FILED.

10:51:10 30 CITIES HAVE FILING LAWSUITS AND FILE AN AMICUS THAT

10:51:14 SAYS WE SUPPORT IT, BUT MOSTLY THAT WILL BE SYMBOLIC.

10:51:19 AND ON THE TREE ONE, THERE IS ALREADY A LAWSUIT IN

10:51:22 PENSACOLA AND WE ARE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THAT ONE IS.

10:51:24 THERE ARE LEGAL THINGS -- MAYBE SHE WILL TALK ABOUT IT













10:51:27 IN A MINUTE AND SOME LEGAL THINGS WE CAN DO.

10:51:28 AND I WANT TO SEE HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING

10:51:33 DONE SO WE DON'T HAVE THESE PREEMPTIONS.

10:51:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE MR. SCHMIDT HERE.

10:51:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE DATE I WILL ACCEPT IS

10:51:42 NOVEMBER 21 FOR THE DRAFT TO COME BACK.

10:51:46 AND BILL, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK,

10:51:50 LET'S DECIDE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.

10:51:51 NOVEMBER 21.

10:51:53 AND THEN MAYBE -- IT IS A TWO-PRONG APPROACH.

10:51:59 MAYBE LOCALLY WE GET OUR FELLOW BRETHREN AND OUR LOCAL

10:52:01 MUNICIPALITIES TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

10:52:04 MAYBE EVEN BAY -- ACROSS THE BAY.

10:52:07 , YOU KNOW, AND THE SECOND STEP MIGHT BE TO EXPAND IT

10:52:09 FURTHER AND SEE WHAT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND

10:52:12 ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ARE ALREADY DOING.

10:52:14 >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE WE VOTED ON THIS YET?

10:52:15 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:52:17 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:52:19 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:52:20 ANY OPPOSED?

10:52:23 AND I SEE MR. SCHMIDT HERE AND SAL.

10:52:29 WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, I MAY, GENTLEMEN -- GENTLEMEN?

10:52:32 IF I MAY, BECAUSE I -- I SEE DISCUSSION ON THIS.

10:52:36 LET'S JUST HOLD OFF FOR NEXT WEEK.













10:52:37 >> SAL AGAIN.

10:52:40 I UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE IS COMING UP TONIGHT.

10:52:41 SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT EITHER.

10:52:43 THIS -- SOMEONE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME DOWN TONIGHT TO

10:52:44 DISCUSS THIS ISSUE.

10:52:46 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING EITHER.

10:52:48 THAT IS WHAT I AM BEING TOLD.

10:52:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT CONTEXT TONIGHT.

10:52:52 >> I AM SORRY, MIKE SCHMIDT.

10:52:55 WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE MIGHT BE MENTION OF

10:52:57 THIS TONIGHT.

10:53:00 SO WE WERE PREPARING TO BE DOWN HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS

10:53:03 ANY QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BASED ON THIS.

10:53:06 SO THAT'S WHY YOU CAUGHT US A LITTLE SURPRISE BY TODAY.

10:53:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE IF THERE IS A

10:53:10 MISCOMMUNICATION ON MY END.

10:53:12 HOW ABOUT WE WAIT, TABLE THIS --

10:53:14 >> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?

10:53:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.

10:53:19 >> PERHAPS -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MIKE, TO DO

10:53:20 THE RESEARCH.

10:53:24 MAYBE MAKE A GENERIC MOTION ASKING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT

10:53:28 TO RESEARCH WHAT EXTENT CITY COUNCIL CAN UNDER THE

10:53:33 GOVERNING STATE LAW ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING SOME

10:53:35 SORT OF ASSAULT WEAPON BAN.













10:53:38 SO, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU ARE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.

10:53:41 YOU ARE ASKING US TO RESEARCH WHETHER YOU COULD.

10:53:43 AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH A REPORT AND A

10:53:46 RECOMMENDATION.

10:53:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR?

10:53:51 >> DO WE BROADEN IT TO SAY PREEMPTIONS AND THEY

10:53:54 INCLUDED THAT?

10:53:56 HERE IS THE THING I WANT TO SAY -- I REALLY APPRECIATE

10:53:58 AND RESPECT THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS UP.

10:54:02 I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS CALL ME ABOUT IT AND I

10:54:04 TALKED TO LEGAL ABOUT IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND GLAD THAT

10:54:07 MAYBE YOU HAVE FOUND A WAY TO WORK AROUND THIS.

10:54:11 IT IS TERRIBLE THAT -- THAT ONE ORGANIZATION HAS TRIED

10:54:14 TO LIMIT THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF ELECTED

10:54:18 OFFICIALS IN THE STATE AND PUT THESE HORRIBLE PUNITIVE

10:54:19 DAMAGES IN THERE.

10:54:24 WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT UNDER A DEMOCRACY TO DEBATE

10:54:27 ISSUES WITHOUT FEAR OF ONE ORGANIZATION AFFECTING US

10:54:28 LIKE THAT.

10:54:30 IF THERE IS A WAY WE CAN DO IT, I WANT TO DO IT.

10:54:33 I DON'T WANT US -- WHAT SAL SAID, I DON'T WANT ALL OF

10:54:35 US TO BE THROWN OUT OF OFFICE THAT WILL BE DISRUPTIVE

10:54:39 FOR US IN THE CITY.

10:54:42 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, WHAT DOYLE IS FORMALLY ASK TO

10:54:47 RESEARCH THIS AND JUST COME BACK US TO NEXT WEEK.













10:54:48 >> HAVE A MOTION --

10:54:50 >>LUIS VIERA: NOT ASKING THAT AS A MOTION.

10:54:53 JUST -- YEAH, SO WE WILL JUST COME BACK NEXT WEEK ON

10:54:53 IT.

10:54:55 AGAIN, IT IS BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.

10:54:58 I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

10:54:59 THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

10:55:00 THANK YOU, GUYS.

10:55:01 OKAY.

10:55:03 AND ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER?

10:55:04 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

10:55:08 A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:55:10 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:55:10 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:55:11 ANY OPPOSED.

10:55:14 OKAY, DONE, 5:01.

10:55:16 >> A SHORT NIGHT?

10:55:19 >>LUIS VIERA: GOING TO BE A LONG ONE, A VERY, VERY

10:55:19 LONG ONE.

10:55:19


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