Tampa City Council
Thursday, September 26, 2019
5:01 p.m.
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17:01:35 >> DINGFELDER.
17:01:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
17:01:37 >> GUDES.
17:01:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
17:01:38 >> CARLSON.
17:01:41 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
17:01:41 >> VIERA.
17:01:43 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
17:01:46 ITEM NUMBER ONE RESOLUTION OF THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT
17:01:50 BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND OUR WONDERFUL CITY OF
17:01:53 TAMPA CHIEF, CHIEF DUGAN.
17:01:55 GO AHEAD, SIR.
17:01:57 >> KIRBY RAINESBERGER.
17:01:59 WE ARE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HERE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY
17:02:02 QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CONTRACT.
17:02:03 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
17:02:04 YES, SIR.
17:02:06 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION
17:02:12 PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES, IF YOU COULD ASK WHO
17:02:13 WISHES TO SPEAK.
17:02:17 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE HAS IN RESOLUTION, IS THERE
17:02:21 ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ON ITEM NUMBER ONE?
17:02:22 IF SO, COME FORWARD.
17:02:25 MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
17:02:28 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:02:30 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
17:02:33 ALL IN ALL FAVOR, SAY AYE.
17:02:34 ANY OPPOSED.
17:02:35 THANK YOU.
17:02:38 THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
17:02:41 DO YOU WISH TO GO?
17:02:44 >> YEAH, LET ME -- YES, MR. CHAIR.
17:02:46 GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
17:02:50 >>LUIS VIERA: WE WILL HAVE A WALK-ON COMMENDATION FOR
17:02:54 LONG, LONG-TIME CITY OF TAMPA STAFFER WHO HAS JUST DONE
17:02:57 A WONDERFUL JOB -- YEAH, EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
17:02:57 [ LAUGHTER ]
17:03:05 THAT IS LONG, LONG, LONG TIME, YOU KNOW.
17:03:08 YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
17:03:09 DO YOU WANT --
17:03:12 >> MOTION FOR THE COMMENDATION.
17:03:15 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
17:03:17 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:03:18 ALL IN FAVOR?
17:03:19 OPPOSED?
17:03:21 WE JUST VOTED ON THE MOTION.
17:03:21 >> OKAY.
17:03:23 GO RIGHT AHEAD.
17:03:24 THANK YOU.
17:03:27 >> YOU WILL FILL IN THE NAME OF THE PERSON.
17:03:30 >> MR. CHAIR, LET ME SAY THAT THE PERSON IS POWDERING
17:03:32 THEIR NOSE RIGHT NOW.
17:03:34 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, WELL -- WITH A MINUTE, DO YOU
17:03:35 THINK?
17:03:37 >> IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED TO NUMBER TWO, THAT WILL BE
17:03:39 FINE WITH ME.
17:03:41 >> MR. CHAIRMAN WE HAVE A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER WE CAN
17:03:42 TAKE CARE OF.
17:03:44 >> MR. HEY, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
17:03:47 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS.
17:03:50 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
17:03:52 THE HOUSEKEEPING FOR TONIGHT.
17:04:00 ITEM NUMBER 3 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY CITY LEGAL.
17:04:02 THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD THIS EVENING.
17:04:06 AND ITEM NUMBER 10, 19-07E HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO THE
17:04:08 NEXT PLAN AMENDMENT CYCLE.
17:04:10 YOU WILL SEE THAT AT A FUTURE DATE.
17:04:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE.
17:04:13 >> THAT'S IT.
17:04:15 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM THREE.
17:04:19 >> ITEM NUMBER THREE IS DEEMED WITHDRAWN OR REMOVED?
17:04:21 DEEM IT WITHDRAWN.
17:04:23 >> IT WAS WITHDRAWN.
17:04:25 >> IF WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A MOTION.
17:04:28 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WITH A SECOND?
17:04:31 A MOTION TO WITHDRAW BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
17:04:34 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:04:35 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:04:36 OPPOSED.
17:04:37 A MOTION TO CONTINUE --
17:04:40 >> MOVED TO A SPECIFIC DATE OR MOVED FROM THE AGENDA
17:04:44 FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMING INTO THE NEXT CYCLE?
17:04:47 >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS CONTINUED IT TO THE NEXT
17:04:48 PLAN AMENDMENT CYCLE.
17:04:49 WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR DATE.
17:04:52 >> REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND RESET?
17:04:52 >> CORRECT.
17:04:56 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION AS SUCH.
17:04:58 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:05:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.
17:05:03 ANY OPPOSED?
17:05:06 OKAY.
17:05:11 MRS. LORENA HARDWICK, A DEDICATED CITY OF TAMPA
17:05:17 EMPLOYEE AND A WONDERFUL ASSET TO OUR CITY AND SERVED
17:05:22 COUNCILMAN CITRO AND BEFORE THAT OUR HARD-WORKING DEAR
17:05:23 FRIEND MIKE SUAREZ.
17:05:25 GO AHEAD, SIR.
17:05:29 >> WITH YOUR PERMISSION, CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
17:05:32 THIS WOMAN HAS KNOWN MOST OF YOU FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
17:05:41 I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GAIN HER ADVICE, HER -- HER
17:05:52 EXPERTISE AND JUST HER WONDERFUL FRIENDSHIP FOR THESE
17:05:53 SHORT FOUR MONTHS.
17:05:57 AND BRINGS ME, MS. HARDWICK, GREAT --
17:05:57 [ LAUGHTER ]
17:06:03 -- WELL -- WELL, YOU KNOW, MISS HARDWICK, WITH ALL THE
17:06:08 YEARS OF DEDICATION THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THIS CITY,
17:06:12 TO COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, TO MYSELF, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE
17:06:18 TO HAVE 20 OF THESE COMMENDATIONS TO JUSTIFY THE GREAT
17:06:19 WORK YOU HAVE DONE FOR US.
17:06:24 BUT IF I MAY, THE CITY OF TAMPA, COUNCIL AND THEIR
17:06:30 STAFF ARE HONORED TO RECOGNIZE THE TALENTED MS. LORENA
17:06:33 HARDWICK FOR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF
17:06:34 TAMPA.
17:06:38 SINCE 2013, LORENA HAS SERVED CITY COUNCIL, HER
17:06:42 COLLEAGUES, THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY WELL.
17:06:44 WHETHER HANDLING CONSTITUTIONAL REQUESTS OR
17:06:48 GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES, LORENA IS
17:06:51 ALWAYS THE EPITOME OF PROFESSIONALISM.
17:06:54 HER HARD WORK ETHIC -- HOW DO YOU SAY THIS, MARY --
17:07:00 DOGGED -- THANK YOU, DOGGED DETERMINATION AND ATTENTION
17:07:03 TO DETAIL HAS EARNED HER THE RESPECT OF COLLEAGUES,
17:07:04 CONSTITUENTS ALIKE.
17:07:09 DURING HER TIME AT CITY HALL, LORENA TOOK THE REINS OF
17:07:14 CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, INITIATED PAINT
17:07:17 STREET PROGRAMS, EXCUSE ME, HOSTED USF LEGISLATION,
17:07:20 INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AND WORKED TO PROMOTE
17:07:23 APPRENTICESHIP.
17:07:26 CITY -- EXCUSE ME, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF
17:07:29 HAVE BEEN HONORED TO SERVE ALONGSIDE LORENA FOR OVER
17:07:30 THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
17:07:32 WE WISH HER WELL.
17:07:34 LOOKED FOR TO SEEING HER EXTRAORDINARY FUTURE
17:07:36 ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
17:07:40 WITH ADMIRATION AND RESPECT, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
17:07:44 PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 26TH DAY OF
17:07:46 SEPTEMBER, 2019.
17:07:50 LORENA, THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME IN MY FIRST FOUR
17:07:50 MONTHS.
17:07:54 WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR SUCCESS.
17:07:58 AND YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU EVER WANT TO COME BACK, YOU
17:07:59 ARE HERE.
17:08:00 YOU ARE WELCOME.
17:08:02 >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, SIR.
17:08:12 [APPLAUSE]
17:08:13 >> HEY, SUSAN.
17:08:14 HI.
17:08:18 GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY
17:08:19 COUNCIL.
17:08:21 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
17:08:24 I APPRECIATE THE HONOR, AND IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO
17:08:26 SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU AND WITH THESE AMAZING
17:08:31 LEGISLATIVE AIDES AND SOON TO BE LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
17:08:40 IT REALLY HAS BEEN AN ADVENTURE SINCE 2004 WHEN I
17:08:44 STARTED WITH THE CITY, KARLA LEWIS, MAY SHE REST IN
17:08:46 PEACE, AND THE TEAM WE HAD THERE.
17:08:49 IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR
17:08:50 NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:08:51 MANY OF THEM ARE FAMILY TO ME.
17:08:54 I HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMED WITH THE MESSAGES I RECEIVED
17:08:57 BACK FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS WHEN I LET THEM KNOW
17:09:00 I WOULD BE LEAVING THE CITY AND I WASN'T GOING TO GO
17:09:03 TOO FAR AND I KNOW I WILL SEE MANY OF YOU AND I WISH
17:09:08 YOU WELL AND YOU CONTINUE YOUR ROLES.
17:09:12 FOR SOME OF YOU, A NEW ROLE.
17:09:13 I WISH YOU WELL.
17:09:14 I AM ROOTING FOR YOU.
17:09:15 TIME IS IN YOUR CORNER.
17:09:18 THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR SERVING WITH ALL OF YOU.
17:09:19 IT IS SUCH A PLEASURE.
17:09:20 SO THANK YOU.
17:09:22 [APPLAUSE]
17:09:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE FROM COUNCIL WISH TO SAY
17:09:26 ANYTHING?
17:09:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, IT WAS MY PLEASURE AND HONOR TO
17:09:30 WORK WITH YOU.
17:09:34 I KNOW YOU DID MR. CITRO WELL.
17:09:38 AND I KNOW YOU WILL BE SORELY MISSED BY THIS COUNCIL
17:09:40 AND MR. CITRO.
17:09:43 GOD BLESS IN YOUR NEW VENTURE.
17:09:44 DO YOU WELL.
17:09:45 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
17:09:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
17:09:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU TO YOUR DEDICATED WORK TO
17:09:50 THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
17:09:55 I KNOW THAT TWICE I GAVE YOU A CONSULT AND TWICE YOU
17:09:57 DIDN'T LISTEN AND THIS TIME YOU LISTENED AND DID THE
17:09:58 RIGHT THING.
17:10:01 I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT -- HER SISTER IS HERE.
17:10:04 CALL YOUR SISTER -- LOOK AT HOW THE HAIR IS AND THE
17:10:05 RESEMBLANCE.
17:10:11 LORENA IS LEAVING AND LORENA WITH A L AND LIZ WITH AN
17:10:12 L.
17:10:13 GO TAKE A PICTURE WITH HER.
17:10:17 AND THE PUBLIC WANT TO SEE HOW CLOSE YOU RESEMBLE EACH
17:10:17 OTHER.
17:10:18 QUICKLY.
17:10:23 [ LAUGHTER ]
17:10:26 >> THANK YOU, CHARLIE.
17:10:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RED CHEEKS.
17:10:31 THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE
17:10:35 CITY AND A PLEASURE YOU WILL WORK IN THE VICINITY WITH
17:10:36 HARTLINE, I BELIEVE.
17:10:37 >> YES.
17:10:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND A PLEASURE TO KNOW YOU AND I AM
17:10:42 SURE YOU WILL DO FINE.
17:10:44 >> YOU ARE NOT GETTING RID OF ME.
17:10:47 I WILL COME BACK AND VISIT WITH YOU, CHARLIE.
17:10:50 I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FRIENDSHIP.
17:10:51 THANK YOU.
17:10:53 >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK AND GUIDING ME AND
17:10:56 THE NEWBIES THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
17:10:59 CONGRATULATIONS ON A BIG NEXT STEP AND EXCITED FOR YOU
17:11:03 AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU WILL ACCOMPLISH.
17:11:04 THANK YOU.
17:11:05 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN.
17:11:08 >> A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU THESE LAST FOUR PLUS
17:11:08 YEARS.
17:11:14 I THINK I MET YOU MAYBE 2011 AT THE BEGINNING WITH
17:11:17 COUNCILMEMBER SUAREZ AND ALWAYS VERY POLITE, VERY EASY
17:11:19 TO WORK WITH, VERY HELPFUL.
17:11:22 ALWAYS ANSWERING QUESTIONS ANY TIME I NEEDED ANYTHING.
17:11:25 I APPRECIATE IT AND WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK MOVING
17:11:26 FORWARD.
17:11:29 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I ALSO HAVE, LORENA, A SALUTE FROM
17:11:34 OUR MAYOR JANE CASTOR, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS TALKS
17:11:37 ABOUT YOUR WORK AND PROFESSIONALISM AND WORK IN
17:11:41 HISPANIC OUTREACH AND ALL OF THIS IS 110% TRUE.
17:11:44 I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU NOT JUST AS A CITY COUNCIL
17:11:46 MEMBER BUT MY FRIENDSHIP TO YOUR FORMER BOSS, MIKE
17:11:47 SUAREZ.
17:11:49 YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER IN THIS OFFICE,
17:11:50 AND I MEAN THAT.
17:11:53 YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A PERSON WHO CAN ALWAYS BE COUNTED
17:11:55 ON TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
17:11:58 YOU HAVE GOT PEOPLE'S BACKS AND YOU HAVE GOOD MORALS
17:11:59 AND GOOD CHARACTER.
17:12:00 OUR GOOD PERSON.
17:12:04 AND MEAN THAT 110% AND YOU KNOW I AM NOT JUST SAYING
17:12:04 THAT.
17:12:05 I MEAN THAT.
17:12:07 YOU ARE A VERY, VERY GOOD PERSON.
17:12:10 YOUR PROFESSIONALISM IS SECOND TO NONE, AND TO ME IF
17:12:13 THIS WAS A BASEBALL TEAM IN TERMS OF THE OFFICE, YOU
17:12:14 WOULD BE FIRST BASE.
17:12:16 THE DON MATTINGLY OF THIS TEAM.
17:12:17 AND I MEAN THAT.
17:12:21 THAT IS IMPORTANT -- I AM FROM THE '80S.
17:12:24 MAN, DON MATTINGLY.
17:12:26 GOD BLESS AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
17:12:28 >> APPRECIATE IT.
17:12:32 >>LUIS VIERA: WILL EVERYBODY -- I KNOW WE HAVE A FULL
17:12:35 AGENDA -- WOULD ANYONE FROM THE STAFF LIKE TO SPEAK,
17:12:37 WITHIN REASON.
17:12:39 >> COMING BACK FOR FUNDING FOR HART?
17:12:41 WILL SHE BE COMING BACK --
17:12:42 [ LAUGHTER ]
17:12:45 >> EVENTUALLY.
17:12:48 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LORENA.
17:12:49 YES, SIR?
17:12:52 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD -- WOULD YOU -- WOULD YOU GET
17:13:00 A PICTURE --
17:13:02 >> ONE, TWO, THREE.
17:13:08 MR. CHAIR CAN WE GET A PICTURE WITH LORENA WITH
17:13:10 EVERYBODY ON THE DESK.
17:13:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: $25 FINE.
17:13:17 [APPLAUSE]
17:13:38 >> NEVER HAPPENED AND WE HAD IT HAPPEN TWICE.
17:13:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HEARD GROUP PHOTO --
17:13:45 >> EVERYBODY NEEDS TO TURN SIDEWAYS.
17:13:51 >> ONE, TWO -- THANK YOU.
17:14:09 >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
17:14:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
17:14:13 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, THANK YOU.
17:14:15 WE WILL MISS LORENA 110%.
17:14:19 NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON WARD TO FIRST PUBLIC HEARING
17:14:21 NONQUASI JUDICIAL.
17:14:23 ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:14:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN TWO THROUGH 11.
17:14:28 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
17:14:35 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
17:14:38 >>DAVID HEY: DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
17:14:38 STAFF.
17:14:41 AND THE FIRST ITEM IS THE ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING FOR
17:14:45 PLAN AMENDMENT 1906.
17:14:51 DID COME BACK, THERE WERE NO CONCERNS FROM THE STATE.
17:14:55 SO WE WILL DO QUICK LITTLE REMINDER OF WHAT THIS IS, A
17:14:58 LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE CITY OF TAMPA IN COOPERATION
17:15:00 WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAVE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT
17:15:02 AFTER STAKEHOLDERS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND PLANNING
17:15:03 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:15:06 CURRENTLY UNDER THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND THE
17:15:10 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES,
17:15:14 VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON ARTERIAL
17:15:20 MEETING ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS CAN GET THERE BY RIGHT
17:15:24 FLOOR AREA RATIO UP TO 1.5 IF THEY MEET CERTAIN
17:15:25 CRITERIA.
17:15:28 THIS AMENDMENT WOULD EXTEND THAT CRITERIA TO COLLECTOR
17:15:33 ROADWAYS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA DESIGNATED URBAN
17:15:35 VILLAGES.
17:15:38 CURRENTLY ALL DEVELOPMENT ON THE CITY'S COLLECTOR
17:15:41 ROADWAYS LOCATED WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 AND
17:15:44 THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES
17:15:51 ARE CAPPED AT A 1.0 F.A R. AT RIGHT BY WITH AN OPTION
17:15:53 TO ENTER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS
17:15:58 TO GET TO A MAXIMUM OF 2 F.A.R.
17:16:00 THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF
17:16:05 HAVE STATED THAT THIS REQUIREMENT REDUCES THE FINANCIAL
17:16:07 VIABILITY OF CONSTRUCTING SOME MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT
17:16:12 WHICH IS THE IDENTIFIED PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
17:16:15 WITHIN THE COMP PLAN ON OUR CITY'S MIXED USE CORRIDORS.
17:16:19 THIS AMENDMENT WILL REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE NEED
17:16:23 TO ENTER INTO ADDITIONAL BONUS AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY
17:16:28 THUS FURTHER INCENTIVIZING THE IDENTIFIED DEVELOPMENT
17:16:31 PATTERN OF VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE MAIN
17:16:32 BOARD NEARS.
17:16:34 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION DID LOOK AT THIS AND FOUND
17:16:38 THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH POLICY DIRECTION REGARDING
17:16:42 THE PROMOTION OF A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
17:16:45 YOU CAN SEE THE POLICY NUMBERS LISTED THERE.
17:16:48 THEY ALSO FOUND IT WAS CONSISTENT THAT -- WITH THE
17:16:51 PROMOTION OF A SUSTAINABLE FORM OF DEVELOPMENT,
17:16:57 SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE CITY'S URBAN VILLAGES.
17:17:01 I DID WANT TO ALSO JUST SHOW YOU ALL -- I KNOW AT THE
17:17:07 LAST HEARING WE HAD ON THIS, THERE WAS -- WHAT
17:17:11 PROPERTIES THIS ACTUALLY WOULD EFFECT OR THE PROPERTIES
17:17:16 -- AT LEAST PROPERTIES THAT WOULD THE ONES ELIGIBLE.
17:17:19 COULD YOU SEE ON THIS MAP, THE URBAN VILLAGES ARE THE
17:17:21 PURPLE AREAS ON THE MAP.
17:17:24 AND THE RED PARCELS ARE THE ONES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE
17:17:28 THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE OR THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL
17:17:29 35.
17:17:33 SO THIS IS WHAT -- WHAT PROPERTIES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE
17:17:37 FOR THIS BONUS.
17:17:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE THAT MAP, DAVID?
17:17:53 >>DAVID HEY: I CAN -- I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.
17:17:55 NO, BECAUSE IT WAS MADE JUST FOR THIS HEARING.
17:17:59 DOES THE CLERK HAVE A COPY?
17:17:59 >>DAVID HEY: NO.
17:18:01 >> WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLERK GETS A
17:18:02 COPY.
17:18:04 THREE COPIES.
17:18:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WILL SHARE.
17:18:11 I CAN'T READ THOSE SCREENS.
17:18:14 >> GO AHEAD, SIR.
17:18:15 >>DAVID HEY: BASED ON THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION
17:18:18 RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT BE FOUND
17:18:22 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVE OF THE IMAGINE
17:18:25 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:18:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
17:18:28 ANY QUESTIONS?
17:18:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
17:18:30 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU.
17:18:33 >> DAVID, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU ALL BROUGHT THIS THROUGH
17:18:36 PRIOR TO TRANSMITTAL.
17:18:39 >>DAVID HEY: I THINK THAT WAS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
17:18:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PRIOR --
17:18:43 >>DAVID HEY: PRIOR TO IT ACTUALLY BEING UP THERE, YES.
17:18:47 >> HAD THIS DISCUSSION OF WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS THIS
17:18:49 MIGHT BE.
17:18:53 SO LET'S SAY ON DAVIS ISLAND, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT YOU ALL
17:19:01 ARE CALLING AN URBAN VILLAGE.
17:19:03 SO SEE A LITTLE CLUSTER OF RED THERE.
17:19:07 THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE SHOPS.
17:19:09 >>DAVID HEY: THAT'S CORRECT.
17:19:12 THE ONLY PROPERTY ON DAVIS ISLAND THAT WILL FALL UNDER
17:19:13 THIS PLAN AMENDMENT.
17:19:15 THAT IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
17:19:19 THE EXISTING BLOCK OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL.
17:19:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
17:19:24 ANY HEIGHT RESTRICTION AT ALL THERE.
17:19:26 >>DAVID HEY: NO HEIGHT RESTRICTION UNDER THE COMP
17:19:27 PLAN.
17:19:32 HEIGHT REGULATIONS THROUGH THE LAN LAND DEVELOPMENT
17:19:32 CODE.
17:19:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS WOULD INCREASE FROM A ONE TO
17:19:37 --
17:19:40 >>DAVID HEY: REMEMBER ALL DEVELOPMENT COULD GET TO THE
17:19:41 TWO.
17:19:43 THAT IS THE MAXIMUM UNDER THE --
17:19:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNDER THE BONUS, RIGHT.
17:19:49 >>DAVID HEY: IF YOU DO STANDARD DEVELOPMENT YOU CAPPED
17:19:54 BY THE ONE BY RIGHT TO GO INTO AN OPTION WITH THE CITY
17:19:55 TO GET UP TO THE TWO.
17:19:56 THIS WOULD REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT IF A DEVELOPER
17:20:01 WANTED TO GO FROM 1 TO 1.25 AND THEY WERE MEETING ALL
17:20:04 THE CRITERIA ABOUT THE VERTICAL MIXED USE, THE ACREAGE
17:20:07 SIZE THAT YOU ARE LOCATED ON A COLLECTOR.
17:20:09 THEY WOULD THEN NOT NEED TO ENTER INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT
17:20:10 AGREEMENT.
17:20:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS ACTUALLY GOES TO 1.5 AS A
17:20:14 MATTER OF RIGHT?
17:20:16 >>DAVID HEY: RIGHT, UP TO THAT.
17:20:20 UP TO THE 1.5 AND AT 1.5 THEY WOULD -- ANYTHING
17:20:24 EXCEEDING THE 1.5 WILL NEED TO GO INTO THE DEVELOPMENT
17:20:25 AGREEMENT PROCESS.
17:20:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WHO -- I KNOW THIS HAS PROBABLY
17:20:34 BEEN BANGING AROUND FOR A WHILE PRIOR TO FOUR OF US
17:20:35 GETTING HERE.
17:20:37 WHAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF THIS PLAN AMENDMENT?
17:20:40 WHO -- WHO ASKED FOR IT?
17:20:44 >>DAVID HEY: IT IS ALREADY ALLOWED -- IT WAS PART OF
17:20:47 THE UPDATE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
17:20:52 AND SO IT IS ALLOWED ON THE CITY'S ARTERIALS.
17:20:54 THERE WAS DISCUSSION WITH STAFF WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
17:20:54 COMMUNITY.
17:20:57 THERE WAS A MEETING HELD OVER AT NORTH BOULEVARD
17:21:00 PROBABLY ALMOST A YEAR AGO THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS
17:21:06 THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THIS TO
17:21:08 THE CITY'S COLLECTORS.
17:21:12 AND THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS, CITY STAFF INITIATED IT
17:21:16 WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
17:21:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME.
17:21:25 THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES I CAN SEE ON THIS MAP THAT ARE
17:21:28 MORE URBAN IN NATURE.
17:21:32 I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT NECESSARILY
17:21:37 THOSE DAVIS ISLAND BLOCKS.
17:21:42 JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, OFF OF BAYSHORE, WHAT DO YOU GOT
17:21:44 GOING ON IN THERE?
17:21:48 HYDE PARK -- HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
17:21:50 >>DAVID HEY: HYDE PARK VILLAGE AND SOME PROPERTIES ON
17:21:51 HOWARD.
17:21:55 I WOULD NOTE THAT ANYTHING -- IF SOMEONE WAS SEEKING TO
17:21:58 UTILIZE THIS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING
17:21:59 PROCESS.
17:22:01 IT DOESN'T GIVE THEM ANY RIGHTS TO JUST IMMEDIATELY
17:22:06 CONSTRUCT IF THEY ARE DEVELOPING A VERTICAL MIXED USE.
17:22:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, BUT CREATES A PRESUMPTION.
17:22:12 WE GET TOLD BY OUR LAWYERS ABOUT THE PRESUMPTION, YOU
17:22:15 KNOW, IF YOU BUMP IT UP AND THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE A
17:22:19 HIGHER F.A.R., THEN IT -- YOU KNOW, IT DOES THAT.
17:22:22 SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
17:22:26 ALSO IN EAST TAMPA, IT LOOKS LIKE A SOLID -- A SOLID
17:22:33 MASS OF CMU-35 UP -- UP 34TH STREET.
17:22:41 AGAIN, AS I -- AS I RECOLLECT, 34TH STREET ABUTS UP TO
17:22:43 A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO THOSE
17:22:45 PARCELS.
17:22:49 >> RIGHT, BUT AGAIN ALL THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS REMOVE
17:22:50 THE REQUIREMENT TO GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT
17:22:52 AGREEMENT.
17:22:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
17:23:01 THESE MAPS CAREFULLY AND KNOW THE IMPACT OF IT?
17:23:04 YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT IT AT THIS TIME.
17:23:08 IT CONCERNS ME GREATLY.
17:23:11 YOU KNOW TO HAVE THAT SORT OF -- AND -- AND, YOU KNOW,
17:23:13 ANOTHER THING WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND REQUESTS A
17:23:19 PLAN AMENDMENT TO GO TO A CMU-35, OKAY, ON A COLLECTOR,
17:23:23 THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, GUESS WHAT, ANOTHER POTENTIAL RED
17:23:24 DOT.
17:23:28 JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE EXISTING CMU-35S RIGHT NOW.
17:23:31 IF THE RULE SAY THAT'S IT COULD BE ON A COLLECTOR AND
17:23:33 THEY -- THEY GO AHEAD AND GET A NEW PLAN AMENDMENT THAN
17:23:39 ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE AT A HIGHER F.A.R. AS A MATTER
17:23:40 OF RIGHT.
17:23:42 >>DAVID HEY: AGAIN, ANY PLAN AMENDMENT WILL NEED TO
17:23:45 COME IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE WOULD NEED TO DOCUMENT THAT
17:23:48 IN THE ROMP THAT THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF THEY MET THE
17:23:50 OTHER CRITERIA.
17:23:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE ARTERIALS.
17:23:56 THE ARTERIALS ON THIS MAP WOULD BE, WHAT, LIKE,
17:23:58 NEBRASKA AND FLORIDA.
17:24:01 >>DAVID HEY: RIGHT, YES.
17:24:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
17:24:06 >>DAVID HEY: THOSE ARE ARTERIALS AND THEY ALREADY HAVE
17:24:08 THIS OPTION.
17:24:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ADDING ON TO THAT OVERLAY GREATER
17:24:15 DENSITY AND INTENSITY -- OR GREATER INTENSITY ON AT
17:24:17 LEAST HOW MANY MORE COLLECTORS.
17:24:19 >>DAVID HEY: THERE ARE NUMEROUS ONES.
17:24:23 I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.
17:24:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM LOOKING AT LEAST 15 OR 20.
17:24:33 >>DAVID HEY: WILLOW AND CASS, SOME HOWARD, SOME AT
17:24:39 SWANN, A LOT JUST AT THE WEST OF YBOR.
17:24:44 AND GOING ON UP.
17:24:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE ANY URGENCY TO DOING THIS?
17:24:51 COULD WE DEFER IT?
17:24:53 >>DAVID HEY: TOTALLY UP TO COUNCIL.
17:24:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN IN TERMS OF ANY SORT OF
17:25:00 TIMETABLE WHEN WE DO CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENTS, WE ARE
17:25:03 ALWAYS ON SOME SORT OF TIME TABLE.
17:25:05 >>DAVID HEY: THIS HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED.
17:25:08 IT IS PLEASURE OF COUNCIL WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO
17:25:09 WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
17:25:14 THERE ISN'T A PLANNING DEADLINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
17:25:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN, THIS IS FOREVER, AND ONCE
17:25:20 PEOPLE -- ONCE PEOPLE GET SOMETHING AS A MATTER OF
17:25:23 RIGHT, IT IS, LIKE, EXTREMELY HARD AND IMPOSSIBLE TO
17:25:25 TAKE THINGS AWAY.
17:25:28 SO I JUST -- I THINK THAT IS WHY COUNCIL SHOULD BE VERY
17:25:30 CAUTIOUS ON THIS.
17:25:33 LIKE I SAY, IT IS NOT JUST THE RED DOTS.
17:25:34 IT IS EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
17:25:38 IF IT IS ON A COLLECTOR AND THEY COME IN AND GET A PLAN
17:25:41 AMENDMENT, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY BECOME A RED DOT TOO.
17:25:46 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS.
17:25:50 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES IS RECOGNIZED.
17:25:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY?
17:25:57 >>DAVID HEY: WE HAD OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS AT THE
17:25:58 PLANNING COMMISSION.
17:26:01 THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM
17:26:03 ANY NEIGHBORHOODS.
17:26:08 IT WAS ADVERTISED, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LEGAL
17:26:09 REQUIREMENT.
17:26:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE ONE OR TWO -- WE HAVE ONE OR
17:26:15 TWO PEOPLE MAYBE AT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND I
17:26:16 HAVE BEEN TO THOSE.
17:26:19 I CAN TELL NOBODY REALLY KNOWS REALLY ABOUT THIS.
17:26:22 I AM JUST BEING UP-FRONT WITH YOU ON THIS AND I AM SURE
17:26:24 NOBODY KNOW WHAT IS WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW -- WHAT WE
17:26:27 MAY POTENTIALLY BE VOTED ON RIGHT NOW.
17:26:30 IT MAY HAVE BEEN SO-CALLED ADVERTISED AND I DON'T THINK
17:26:33 THE COMMUNITY KNOWS IF YOU LOOK AT 34TH STREET IN EAST
17:26:37 TAMPA, THAT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL AND TALKING ABOUT 34TH
17:26:37 STREET --
17:26:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 15TH STREET.
17:26:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN SEE A NEBRASKA, FLORIDA AVENUE,
17:26:46 THOSE ARTERIALS.
17:26:49 >> I WANT TO ENSURE WE ARE ALL CLEAR THIS IS NOT
17:26:53 INCREASING ANY FLOOR AREA RATIO.
17:26:57 THESE CATEGORIES GET A MAXIMUM OF A TWO.
17:26:59 >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT, WAIT.
17:27:03 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WAIT, WAIT -- PLEASE WAIT --
17:27:06 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, PLEASE ASK TO BE RECOGNIZED
17:27:08 BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
17:27:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
17:27:12 IT'S EASIER, MR. CHAIR.
17:27:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IT IS.
17:27:15 PLEASE GO AHEAD
17:27:18 >> THE MAXIMUM ON ANY THE MIXED USE OR COMMERCIAL 35 IS
17:27:19 A TWO.
17:27:23 ALL THIS IT IS DOING IS REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT TO
17:27:27 ENTER INTO THE SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH THE LEGAL
17:27:27 DEPARTMENT.
17:27:29 THAT'S ALL THIS DOES.
17:27:36 IT DOES NOT GRANT EXTRA FLOOR AREA RATIO OVER THE
17:27:39 MAXIMUM OF THE TWO.
17:27:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
17:27:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
17:27:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OR CLARIFICATION.
17:27:51 ON AN ARTERIAL THAT'S TRUE, OKAY.
17:27:55 ON A COLLECTOR, WHAT IS IT RIGHT NOW?
17:27:58 >>DAVID HEY: ON A COLLECTOR THE MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA
17:28:03 RATIO UNDER COMMUNITY 35 OR COMMUNITY MIXED 35 IS A
17:28:04 TWO.
17:28:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH THE BONUS AGREEMENT?
17:28:10 >>DAVID HEY: YES TO GET UP TO THE TWO, YOU HAVE TO
17:28:14 ENTER INTO THAT BONUS AGREEMENTS WHETHER IT IS AN
17:28:16 ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR.
17:28:18 THAT IS THE MECHANISM THAT IS INCREASING -- YOU KNOW,
17:28:24 BEING -- THAT PROCESS IS BEING ALTERED UNDER THIS
17:28:24 AMENDMENT.
17:28:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITHOUT IT -- WITHOUT THE BONUS
17:28:30 AGREEMENT, IT'S A ONE?
17:28:32 >>DAVID HEY: CORRECT, IF YOU DON'T ALREADY MEET THE
17:28:36 CRITERIA ON THE ARTERIALS.
17:28:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM TALKING ABOUT COLLECTOR.
17:28:41 >>DAVID HEY: CORRECT.
17:28:44 A ONE BY RIGHT WITH THE OPTION TO GO INTO THE
17:28:47 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO THE TWO FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT.
17:28:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT THIS PROPOSE TODAY INCREASE IT
17:28:55 FROM ONE TO 1.5 AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
17:28:58 >>DAVID HEY: FOR THAT VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
17:29:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE, WHAT DOES THAT
17:29:05 MEAN IN TERMS OF THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT?
17:29:07 >>DAVID HEY: ALL RIGHT, SO -- CAN I -- YOU ARE TESTING
17:29:09 MY MATH SKILLS.
17:29:10 OKAY.
17:29:17 FOR ONE ACRE, 43,560 ROUGHLY SQUARE FEET.
17:29:25 UNDER -- UNDER THE PROPOSAL, THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE THE
17:29:26 -- DOUBLE.
17:29:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE BONUS.
17:29:31 AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
17:29:33 >>DAVID HEY: MATTER OF RIGHT FROM THIS, SOMEONE WHO
17:29:39 HAD AN ACRE WOULD GO FROM THE 43,560 TO PROBABLY --
17:29:45 MATH -- 60,000 SQUARE FEET, 62,000.
17:29:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OF DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
17:29:49 ONE AND A HALF TIMES WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
17:29:51 >>DAVID HEY: RIGHT.
17:29:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE
17:30:01 HAS BEEN ANY HUGE CRY FROM THE COMMUNITY TO DO THIS.
17:30:05 IT WAS A LITTLE VAGUE IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT
17:30:07 COMMUNITY YOU KNOW WERE PURSUING THIS.
17:30:09 SURE, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY.
17:30:14 I AM VERY CONCERNED 80% OF THIS IS IN EAST TAMPA IN THE
17:30:18 PURPLE AREAS I AM LOOKING AT.
17:30:26 VERY SINGLE FAMILY, BUTTED UP AGAINST THESE COLLECTOR
17:30:29 ROADS.
17:30:32 EAST TAMPA IS PART OF MY DISTRICT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
17:30:34 I AM CITY-WIDE.
17:30:35 HYDE PARK.
17:30:38 PARTS OF WEST TAMPA, GOING UP HOWARD AVENUE, MAIN
17:30:41 STREET, AND DAVIS ISLAND.
17:30:43 IT CONCERNS ME, YOU KNOW.
17:30:44 IT CONCERNS ME.
17:30:49 AND I -- LIKE I SAY, I AM NOT 100% AGAINST IT.
17:30:51 I JUST THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND
17:30:54 SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS ABOUT IT BEFORE WE ADOPT
17:30:54 IT.
17:30:58 AND IF THERE IS NO URGENCY TO IT, YOU KNOW, THEN WHY
17:31:02 NOT PUT IT OFF FOR A FEW MONTHS.
17:31:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY QUESTIONS?
17:31:05 OKAY.
17:31:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:31:07 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU.
17:31:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE FOR THIS ITEM FROM THE CITY?
17:31:14 OKAY.
17:31:19 ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:31:21 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
17:31:24 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO -- YES, SIR?
17:31:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
17:31:28 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
17:31:31 DO YOU WISH TO DO IT BEFORE THE MOTION TO CLOSE?
17:31:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I THINK WE CAN CLOSE IT AND MY
17:31:35 MOTION IS A CONTINUANCE.
17:31:37 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
17:31:39 MANISCALCO.
17:31:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
17:31:43 YES, SIR?
17:31:46 >> IF YOU WISH FOR IT TO BE MERELY CONTINUED WITHOUT A
17:31:50 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, MY
17:31:52 SUGGESTION TO DO IT WHEN THE HEARING IS OPEN AND IF YOU
17:31:55 WISH TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY NOTIFIED IN SOME FORM OR
17:31:57 FASHION, STAFF WILL PERHAPS AT YOUR DIRECTION WILL BE
17:32:00 ABLE TO DO THAT AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO NOTICE THIS AS
17:32:02 A PUBLIC HEARING.
17:32:06 >> I MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
17:32:08 >> CATE WELLS, OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
17:32:12 MY RECOMMENDATION OF COUNCIL TO BE CONTINUED TO THE
17:32:16 NEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE, AND THAT WILL CALL IN WITH ALL
17:32:18 THE OTHER AMOUNTS THAT WILL BE PROCESSED AT THIS TIME
17:32:22 RATHER THAN JUST CONTINUING IT TO ANOTHER DATE.
17:32:26 AND STATUTES DON'T REALLY ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENS TO AN
17:32:28 AMENDMENT IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.
17:32:31 JUST WHEN IT IS TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE AND IT IS
17:32:33 RETURNED, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING
17:32:39 WITHIN 180 DAYS OTHERWISE IT IS DEEMED WITHDRAWN BUT
17:32:43 DOES NOT DETERMINE WHEN YOU ARE READY TO ACT ON THAT.
17:32:45 THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION.
17:32:47 >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS THE NEXT CYCLE?
17:32:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWICE A YEAR.
17:32:53 >> BUT THE NEXT CYCLE BEGINS NOVEMBER 1.
17:32:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE DO THEM TWICE A YEAR, DON'T WE,
17:32:56 DAVID?
17:32:58 >>DAVID HEY: WE DO FOUR TIMES.
17:33:00 WE MISSED THE AUGUST ONE.
17:33:03 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:33:05 GO AHEAD AND REOPEN.
17:33:08 WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
17:33:10 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:33:12 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:33:13 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
17:33:16 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF I MISSED THIS, BUT WHO
17:33:17 INITIATED THIS.
17:33:20 HOW DID THIS START.
17:33:22 >>DAVID HEY: INITIATED BY CITY STAFF IN COOPERATION
17:33:25 WITH PLANNING COMMISSION.
17:33:28 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU KNOW WHY?
17:33:31 >>DAVID HEY: NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND
17:33:32 THEY CONTACTED NORTH BOULEVARD.
17:33:34 WE ALL WERE IN THE MEETING.
17:33:39 CATHY COYLE WAS PRESENT.
17:33:41 GLORIA WAS PRESENT.
17:33:44 STAKEHOLDERS ESPECIALLY IN WEST TAMPA.
17:33:47 THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS -- THEM
17:33:50 MOVING A PRIVATE AMENDMENT FORWARD.
17:33:53 INSTEAD IT WAS DECIDED TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF SO CITY
17:33:57 STAFF COULD HAVE THEIR CONCERNS ADDRESSED AND THAT'S
17:33:58 WHY --
17:34:01 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW DID IT EXPAND BEYOND NORTH
17:34:02 BOULEVARD AND WEST TAMPA?
17:34:05 >>DAVID HEY: NO, THE MEETING WAS HELD --
17:34:07 >>BILL CARLSON: OH, SORRY.
17:34:10 >>DAVID HEY: REMEMBER IN THE COMP PLAN, THE URBAN
17:34:12 VILLAGES HAVE SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION.
17:34:14 THEY TALK ABOUT A MORE URBAN CHARACTER.
17:34:18 A MORE MIXTURE OF USES IN THOSE URBAN VILLAGES.
17:34:23 AND THAT'S WHY STAFF FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT --
17:34:26 INSTEAD OF DOING IT CITY WIDE OF JUST TARGETING WHERE
17:34:30 THE IDENTIFIED URBAN VILLAGES ARE BECAUSE THERE IS
17:34:33 ALREADY SPECIFIC POLICY LANGUAGE ABOUT THE MIXED USE
17:34:35 NATURE OF THESE VILLAGES.
17:34:37 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST QUESTION.
17:34:39 IF WE DELAY IT, DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE THE
17:34:43 STAFF AND RESOURCES TO TAKE IT TO A FULL PUBLIC
17:34:46 ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO ENGAGE ALL THE MAJOR
17:34:49 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE AFFECTED?
17:34:53 >>DAVID HEY: I WOULD -- I WOULD THINK WE -- WE WOULD
17:34:55 LOOK TO THE CITY --
17:34:58 >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, WE WILL DELAY IT
17:34:59 AND BE RIGHT AT THE SAME PLACE.
17:35:02 IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE PUTTING WORDS IN MY COLLEAGUES'
17:35:05 MOUTHS, BUT THE CONCERN IS MAYBE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
17:35:09 ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED MAY NOT KNOW OR
17:35:11 MAY NOT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS.
17:35:13 IF WE DON'T HAVE A NEW PROCESS, THEN WE HAVEN'T CHANGED
17:35:14 ANYTHING.
17:35:17 SORRY, GO AHEAD.
17:35:20 >> RANDY GOERS: THE CITY PLANNING DEVELOPMENT
17:35:21 DEPARTMENT.
17:35:23 LET ME SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I KNOW.
17:35:26 I DON'T HAVE ALL THE SPECIFICS, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS
17:35:30 CONCEPTUALIZED AND FORMALIZED BEFORE I STARTED
17:35:32 REVIEWING THE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THE CITY, BUT WHAT I
17:35:36 DO KNOW FROM REVIEWING THE STAFF REPORT AND BEING
17:35:38 BRIEFED WITH THE CITY STAFF.
17:35:42 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STAFF WAS APPROACHED BY SOME
17:35:44 PRIVATE INTEREST IN LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT ALONG OTHER
17:35:47 AREAS WHERE THEY COULD GET THE SAME TYPE OF INCENTIVES
17:35:49 FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
17:35:51 THE INITIAL PROPOSAL FROM THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY TO LOOK
17:35:53 AT IT CITY WIDE.
17:35:56 TRY TO COME UP WHERE SOMETHING JUST LIKE THE ARTERIALS
17:35:57 ARE DONE CITY WIDE.
17:36:00 THE CITY STAFF CONSIDERED WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED BY
17:36:02 THE VARIOUS INTERESTS AND CAME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL
17:36:05 THAT THE STAFF THOUGHT WAS WORKABLE, AND THAT IS THE
17:36:06 URBAN VILLAGES.
17:36:10 THE REASON THE URBAN VILLAGES WAS THE LIKELY PLACE IS
17:36:15 BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN IS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE
17:36:18 REDEVELOPMENT IN THE URBAN VILLAGES AND THE URBAN
17:36:21 VILLAGES ON THE MAP, THEY ARE COVERED BY AN EXISTING
17:36:25 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR BY OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
17:36:28 MUCH OF WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN A DEVELOPMENT
17:36:31 AGREEMENT TO -- TO THE CITY WOULD ALREADY BE REQUIRED
17:36:35 WITHIN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT WHICH GOVERNS THE
17:36:36 REDEVELOPMENT.
17:36:38 SO THE STAFF THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT
17:36:42 OF PROTECTIONS TO GUIDE REDEVELOPMENT FOR THOSE AREAS
17:36:45 WHERE REDEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR.
17:36:48 IT DOES DO WHAT -- WHAT WE HAVE HEARD.
17:36:52 IT DOES BRING A -- AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A -- A PRIVATE
17:36:57 INTEREST TO GET TO 1.5 F.A.R. EASIER BECAUSE THEY DON'T
17:37:00 HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IF THEY
17:37:06 -- UNDER THE CURRENT SCENARIOS THEY GET TO 1.5 OR 2 BY
17:37:07 GOING TRY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
17:37:11 SO A WAY TO RESPOND TO THE -- THE INTENT OF THE
17:37:14 DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND TRY TO CREATE A WAY OF
17:37:22 STREAMLINING THE PROCESS TO REACH THE OVERALL URBAN
17:37:22 FORM.
17:37:25 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO END WITH MY THOUGHTS FOR MY
17:37:26 COLLEAGUES.
17:37:31 I THINK WE NEED MORE DENSITY IN SOME OF THE
17:37:35 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND A LOT -- MAYBE
17:37:38 NOT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS I HAVE SPOKEN TO WANT SOME
17:37:40 ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE,
17:37:43 BUT THEY WANT IT TO BE PART OF A PLANNED COMMUNITY OR
17:37:47 -- THAT IS THE WRONG TERM, BUT A PLAN THAT WILL HELP
17:37:51 MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY,
17:37:53 WALKABLE FRIENDLY IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND THAT'S
17:37:57 WHY I HAVE BEEN PROPOSING THESE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL
17:37:58 DISTRICT PLANS.
17:38:01 AND HYDE PARK ON THEIR OWN PRESENTED ONE THE OTHER DAY
17:38:03 THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WERE TRYING TO
17:38:06 PARTNER TO GET IT FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
17:38:11 AND THIS PLANNING SEEMS TO BE A VERY BLUNT INSTRUMENT
17:38:11 FOR ME.
17:38:14 I AM STILL LEARNING ALL ABOUT IT, BUT SEEMS TO BE VERY
17:38:17 BLUNT WHERE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLAN
17:38:21 WOULD BE MORE PRECISE AND BE MORE -- IT WOULD INVOLVE
17:38:24 MORE SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC ON EXACTLY
17:38:28 WHAT THEY WANT TO LOOK AND FEEL AND TEXTURE TO BE.
17:38:33 SO IF -- IF MY COLLEAGUES FEARS ARE TRUE, THEN I AM
17:38:36 OKAY DELAYING IT, BUT WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO AS
17:38:39 QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IS TO HAVE A FULL ENGAGEMENT
17:38:42 PROCESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF
17:38:45 DENSITY THEY WANT AND HOW IT INTEGRATES WITH THE
17:38:48 NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF SERVICES AND
17:38:51 ENVIRONMENT THAT NEIGHBORHOODS WANT TO HAVE.
17:38:53 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
17:38:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, I THINK -- I THINK YOU
17:38:58 BRING UP AN EXCELLENT POINT.
17:39:03 AND TOOK IT ONE STEP FARTHER THAN I DID FOR SURE.
17:39:06 AND IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.
17:39:11 THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WANTED TO REMIND -- REMIND
17:39:13 COUNCIL IS THIS.
17:39:18 RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CAN GET TO -- IF YOU CAN GET TO --
17:39:22 RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY AT A 1.0 F.A.R.
17:39:26 IF YOU WANT TO GET TO 2.0, YOU HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO
17:39:28 ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LIKE THE ONE I AM
17:39:32 GOING TO REMIND COUNCIL WHEN WE FIRST CAME ON BOARD,
17:39:33 THIS GROUP.
17:39:37 MR. COHEN CAME IN WITH THAT NORTH HYDE PARK
17:39:38 DEVELOPMENT.
17:39:40 HE HAD A BIG DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH A LOT OF EXTRA
17:39:43 STUFF FOR THAT IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY TO MITIGATE SOME OF
17:39:45 THE IMPACTS OF THAT VERY INTENSE DEVELOPMENT.
17:39:50 HE GOT -- HE GOT -- I'M SURE HE MAXED OUT IN TERMS OF
17:39:53 F.A.R., BUT THE REASON HE DID HE HAD THE DEVELOPMENT
17:39:55 AGREEMENT WHICH HAD SOME OF THOSE EXTRA THINGS, OKAY.
17:39:57 IT WAS A PACKAGE DEAL.
17:40:01 IF YOU OFFER THE 1.5 AS A MATTER OF RIGHT AS COMPARED
17:40:06 TO THE 2.0 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEN THERE
17:40:09 IS NOT AS MUCH INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO ENTER INTO THE
17:40:10 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
17:40:12 I AM NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO KILL THIS.
17:40:15 I THINK SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFER FOR ANOTHER CYCLE.
17:40:16 THINK ABOUT.
17:40:18 HAVE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT.
17:40:20 TAKE TO THE COMMUNITY IN WHATEVER FASHION WE CAN, MR.
17:40:23 CARLSON, AND MULL IT OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
17:40:25 MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T BE AS SCATTER SHOT AS THIS.
17:40:27 THIS IS A BIG SCATTER SHOT.
17:40:31 THIS -- YOU KNOW, THAT -- THAT IS A BIG CHUNK OF THE
17:40:35 CITY THAT HAS -- THAT THIS POTENTIALLY IMPACTS.
17:40:39 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:40:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL.
17:40:50 I THINK MR. CARLSON BRINGS UP AN EXCELLENT POINT?
17:40:54 WHO ALL KNEW ABOUT THIS.
17:40:59 IT SEEMS LIKE CERTAIN THINGS ARE THRUST UPON US BY
17:41:02 DIFFERENT GROUPS AND OTHERS WHO DON'T HAVE THE BIG
17:41:04 DOLLARS AND DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
17:41:08 I THINK WE NEED TO START CLUCK THE LITTLE PEOPLE.
17:41:12 BECAUSE THEY YELL IN THE END, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN TO
17:41:15 OUR COMMUNITY.
17:41:17 WE DIDN'T HAVE A SAY.
17:41:18 DIDN'T COME TO US.
17:41:20 WE COULD SAY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PLANNING
17:41:20 COMMISSION.
17:41:23 NOBODY REALLY GOES TO THOSE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT IS NOT
17:41:25 REALLY, REALLY ADVERTISED PER SE.
17:41:28 NOTHING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SAYS WE NEED TO BE HERE.
17:41:30 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.
17:41:32 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
17:41:34 I THINK WE NEED TO DEFER THIS AND GO BACK AND INVOLVE
17:41:37 THE COMMUNITY AND THEY WILL KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AND
17:41:40 GET IDEAS FROM THEM NOT JUST THOSE WHO HAVE MONEY TO
17:41:42 TRY TO MAKE DECISIONS UPON US.
17:41:44 >>LUIS VIERA: DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CONTINUE IN THE
17:41:45 WORKS.
17:41:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CONTINUE.
17:41:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
17:41:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CONTINUE NEXT CYCLE.
17:41:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY COMMENT ON THAT MOTION?
17:41:55 A MOTION TO CONTINUE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:41:58 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
17:42:00 IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED?
17:42:02 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE CAN AS A MATTER OF HOUSEKEEPING
17:42:03 WITH REGARD TO THIS.
17:42:07 IF YOU CAN INCLUDE ACCEPTING THE SUBSTITUTES IF THAT
17:42:10 WILL APPEAR AS THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL COME BACK AT THE
17:42:12 NEXT CYCLE.
17:42:14 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY WE RETROACTIVELY DO THAT.
17:42:17 >> WILL THAT BE APPROPRIATE AFTER A MOTION TO CONTINUE
17:42:20 OR RESCIND THAT -- OR JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS NOW?
17:42:23 >> YOU CAN TAKE ACTION --
17:42:24 >> OKAY.
17:42:25 THAT WILL BE FINE.
17:42:29 I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD CLEAN IT UP.
17:42:35 BUT I DIDN'T CATCH IT IN TIME.
17:42:38 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
17:42:43 >> 19-05 IS THE NEXT AMENDMENT.
17:42:51 THIS IS AN ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING.
17:42:52 THIS SUBJECT SITE.
17:42:55 THIS IS A PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
17:42:57 THIS WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE.
17:42:58 IT CAME BACK.
17:42:59 THERE WERE NO COMMENTS.
17:43:03 IT IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT MORE
17:43:07 SPECIFICALLY THE GANDY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:43:10 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:43:16 YOU CAN -- THIS IS INTERBAY AND THE -- TO THE SOUTH.
17:43:19 THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT GO DOWNTOWN.
17:43:20 YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
17:43:24 LIGHT STILL HAVE DOWN ON INNER BAY AND THEN APARTMENTS
17:43:30 AND THEN ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NORTH.
17:43:33 AGAIN, IT IS PUBLICLY INITIATED TO SMALL SCALE.
17:43:35 APPROXIMATELY 14.36 ACRES.
17:43:40 CURRENTLY DESIGNATED TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
17:43:43 THE AMENDMENT SEEKS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE
17:43:46 CATEGORY TO RESIDENTIAL 35 IN RECOGNITION OF THE
17:43:48 EXISTING APARTMENTS.
17:43:52 THIS IS A VIEW OF EXISTING APARTMENTS ON-SITE.
17:43:56 THE GARDENS AT SUN -- SOUTH BANK.
17:44:00 HERE IS LOIS AVENUE LOOKING NORTH.
17:44:07 THIS IS LOIS AVENUE LOOKING FURTHER NORTH.
17:44:10 IT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:44:16 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH DOWN TOWARD INNER BAY.
17:44:19 THIS IS THE INTERBAY SELF-STORAGE.
17:44:21 I BELIEVE THIS IS TO THE SOUTH.
17:44:28 SINCE THIS IS A PUBLICLY INITIATED REQUEST, WE DID --
17:44:32 WE SENT CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
17:44:35 WE ALSO WENT OUT ON-SITE AND TALKED TO THE MANAGEMENT
17:44:37 OF THE FACILITY.
17:44:40 THERE WERE NO CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THEM OR THE
17:44:44 PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
17:44:47 JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT SINCE IT IS A PUBLICLY
17:44:49 INITIATED AMENDMENT.
17:44:52 HERE WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
17:44:55 IF YOU REMEMBER THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24 IS THE CATEGORY
17:44:58 THAT ALLOWS STILL HAVE, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL.
17:45:00 THEY SAY IT ALLOWS EVERYTHING.
17:45:03 IT IS NOT PROBABLY THE PREFERRED CATEGORY IF YOU ARE
17:45:08 TRYING TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT AND GIVE DIRECTION OF WHERE
17:45:12 -- OR PROTECTIONS TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
17:45:15 SO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS
17:45:20 CONTINUOUSLY EVALUATING WHETHER TO USE 24 IS LOCATED
17:45:23 AND LOOKING AT WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT INTO
17:45:27 A MORE APPROPRIATE CATEGORY BASED ON THE EXISTING
17:45:28 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
17:45:31 SO BASED ON THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS
17:45:34 RECOMMENDING THAT THE SITE GO TO RESIDENTIAL 35 TO
17:45:36 RECOGNIZE THE EXISTING APARTMENTS.
17:45:38 THAT IS THE BROWN COLOR.
17:45:41 YOU CAN SEE THAT THE APARTMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST
17:45:45 ARE ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL 35.
17:45:50 THE IMPACTS, AGAIN, THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL, EXISTING
17:45:58 UNDER THAT TU-24 IS 344 UNITS OR A MAXIMUM OF 938,282
17:45:59 SQUARE FEET.
17:46:03 IT DOES GO TO THE RESIDENTIAL-35, THE UNIT COUNT, THE
17:46:06 MAXIMUM WOULD INCREASE, BUT THAT POTENTIAL FOR
17:46:09 NONRESIDENTIAL WOULD DECREASE AND WOULD ALSO REMOVE ANY
17:46:14 POTENTIAL FOR STILL HAVE USES ON THE SITE OF THE
17:46:17 APARTMENTS -- IF THEY EVER WENT AWAY.
17:46:19 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION DID LOOK AT THIS AND FOUND IT
17:46:23 CONSISTENT WITH POLICY DIRECTIONS DEALING WITH THE
17:46:28 SUPPLYING APPROPRIATE LAND USE TO SUPPLY ADEQUATE
17:46:31 HOUSING.
17:46:36 IT ALSO PROVIDES HOUSING CLOSE TO EMPLOYMENT CENTERS
17:46:39 SUCH AS MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
17:46:42 THEY ALSO FOUND CONSISTENT WITH PROMOTING AND
17:46:46 SUSTAINING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO PROMOTING
17:46:53 RELATION AT DENSITIES THAT PROMOTE TRAINS OF USE.
17:46:55 BASED ON THAT, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS TO
17:46:58 YOU THIS EVENING THAT THIS AMENDMENT BE FOUND
17:47:02 CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
17:47:03 PLAN.
17:47:05 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE IN COUNCIL?
17:47:06 OKAY.
17:47:09 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
17:47:11 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
17:47:13 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
17:47:16 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:47:20 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
17:47:21 IN FAVOR.
17:47:22 ANY OPPOSED?
17:47:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING ITEM
17:47:28 NUMBER 4.
17:47:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
17:47:31 SUBSTITUTE.
17:47:32 ALL RIGHT.
17:47:36 WITH REGARD TO FILE NUMBER PA19-05, I MOVE THE
17:47:39 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING OPINION AN
17:47:41 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE
17:47:44 LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
17:47:51 LOCATED 6727 SOUTH LOIS AVENUE FROM TRANSITIONAL USE-24
17:47:58 TU-24 TO RESIDENTIAL-35, R-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
17:48:01 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
17:48:04 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:48:06 I MAKE A MOTION THAT IT IS LOWER INTENSITY.
17:48:09 BASICALLY THAT IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:48:12 MULTIFAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND TO ELIMINATE THE
17:48:15 POSSIBILITY OF STILL HAVE IS A GOOD THING.
17:48:15 >> SECOND.
17:48:18 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND A
17:48:21 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
17:48:22 ALL IN FAVOR.
17:48:23 OPPOSED.
17:48:25 >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 17 AT
17:48:27 9:30 A.M.
17:48:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
17:48:32 ITEM NUMBER 5.
17:48:35 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID HEY, PLANNING
17:48:36 COMMISSION STAFF.
17:48:40 ANOTHER ADOPTION HEARING WITH REGARD TO THE AMENDMENT
17:48:42 19-09.
17:48:45 THIS SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA
17:48:47 PLANNING COMMISSION MORE SPECIFICALLY THE PORT TAMPA
17:48:48 CITY AREA.
17:48:52 IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
17:48:54 HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL.
17:48:56 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:48:58 THIS IS MASCOTTE STREET.
17:49:01 THIS IS, OF COURSE, IS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE
17:49:02 BASE.
17:49:04 THE BASE IS ROUGHLY TO THE SOUTH.
17:49:10 I SHOULD NOTE THAT THIS AREA HERE EVEN THOUGH IT IS
17:49:11 SHOWED ALL TREED.
17:49:13 NO LONGER TREED.
17:49:16 UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
17:49:17 THE AERIAL IS A LITTLE DATED.
17:49:21 THIS, AGAIN, IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED REQUEST.
17:49:25 IT IS SMALL SCALE 21.8 ACRES IN SIZE.
17:49:30 THE CURRENT DESIGNATION FUTURE LAND USE IS HEAVY STILL
17:49:31 HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO GO TO
17:49:34 RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
17:49:35 HERE WE WILL TAKE A QUICK TOUR.
17:49:39 YOU CAN SEE THE STREET IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY.
17:49:41 THERE ARE HOUSES UNDER DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY TO THE
17:49:41 WEST.
17:49:44 THAT WAS ALL THIS WOODED AREA THAT YOU SAW IN THE
17:49:45 AERIAL.
17:49:49 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
17:49:55 HERE WE ARE LOOKING EAST TOWARD SOUTH WESTSHORE
17:49:57 BOULEVARD TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
17:49:59 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE AND THIS IS THE NORTH
17:50:03 SIDE OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
17:50:04 IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH.
17:50:06 THIS IS LOOKING UP MASCOTTE STREET.
17:50:07 WE ARE LOOKING NORTH.
17:50:09 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE END OF THE ROAD.
17:50:13 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT, OUT OF FRAME.
17:50:17 BUT YOU CAN SEE THE STREET IS ALL SINGLE-FAMILY
17:50:18 DETACHED.
17:50:21 AND THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE LOOKING WEST TOWARD ALL
17:50:24 THAT AREA THAT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
17:50:29 HERE WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
17:50:31 THIS SITE IS ONE OF THE HOLDOVERS OF THE HEAVY STILL
17:50:34 HAVE THAT WAS PLANNED NORTH OF THE BASE.
17:50:36 THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS PLAN AMENDMENTS OVER THE YEARS
17:50:40 THAT HAVE WHITTLED AWAY THAT UNDEVELOPED STILL HAVE
17:50:43 THAT WAS DOWN AT THE BASE.
17:50:47 THIS -- THIS IS ALL R-10 AROUND IT.
17:50:51 AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THIS IS THROUGH THE
17:50:52 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:50:55 IF APPROVED, THIS IS WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD
17:50:59 LOOK LIKE, AND THE SITE IS NOW RESIDENTIAL 10.
17:51:03 UNDER THE EXISTING HEAVY STILL HAVE, OF COURSE,
17:51:04 RESIDENTIAL IS NOT PERMITTED.
17:51:09 THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT WOULD BE 52,924
17:51:13 SQUARE FEET OF HEAVY STILL HAVE USES.
17:51:17 WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT 2 RESIDENTIAL 10, A MAXIMUM OF
17:51:20 EIGHT UNITS COULD BE CONSIDERED OR IF IT MET LOCATIONAL
17:51:26 CRITERIA WHICH IT DOESN'T, A MAXIMUM 12,349 SQUARE FEET
17:51:28 OF NONRESIDENTIAL.
17:51:34 IT DID GO TO OUR AGENCY REVIEW.
17:51:37 THE SCHOOL BOARD DID NOTE THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT
17:51:42 CAPACITY AT WESTSHORE ELEMENTARY IN ROBINSON.
17:51:44 I SHOULD NOTE THAT THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION ONLY
17:51:49 AND DURING ANY REZONING IS WHEN THERE IS THE REVIEW FOR
17:51:54 CONSISTENCY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD'S PLAN AND IMPACT.
17:51:56 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS APPLICATION
17:51:58 CONSISTENT.
17:52:01 THEY DID -- THERE WERE NUMEROUS POLICY DIRECTION
17:52:04 REGARDING HOUSING CHOICES AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT
17:52:09 SUPPORTING THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT.
17:52:11 THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT STILL HAVE.
17:52:15 WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO PRESERVE OUR STILL HAVE AREAS.
17:52:18 THIS WAS UNIQUE DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE ONLY WAY TO
17:52:23 GET TO THE SITE IS DOWN THAT LOCAL RESIDENTIAL ROAD.
17:52:29 SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY STAFF FOUND THAT IT
17:52:32 WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO REMOVE IT.
17:52:37 AND THERE WERE POLICY -- POLICY DIRECTION REGARDING THE
17:52:41 COASTAL MANAGEMENT, BUT BASED ON THAT, YOUR PLANNING
17:52:43 COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND
17:52:46 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF
17:52:47 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:52:47 THANK YOU.
17:52:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
17:52:51 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
17:52:53 OKAY -- OH, YES, SIR.
17:52:56 >> YOU SAID YOU REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
17:53:00 DID THE PORT OF TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MAKE A
17:53:02 JUDGMENT ON THIS?
17:53:04 >>DAVID HEY: REMEMBER, THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED.
17:53:07 THE APPLICANT HAS TO ABIDE BY ALL THE NOTICING
17:53:11 REQUIREMENTS, THE SIGNAGE, THE MAILINGS TO THE
17:53:13 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES
17:53:16 WITHIN 250 FEET.
17:53:20 IT WAS -- THERE WAS NO -- WE DIDN'T GET ANY FEEDBACK
17:53:24 THAT THIS WAS A CONCERN FOR ANYONE.
17:53:27 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
17:53:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, DAVID.
17:53:32 I REALIZE THE LAST LITTLE VESTIGE AND THIS WHOLE AREA
17:53:35 HAS BEEN FILLED IN, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT -- WHAT SCARES
17:53:40 THE HECK OUT OF ME ABOUT THOSE AREAS IS EVACUATION.
17:53:44 AND BEING IN A RELATIVELY LOW AND VULNERABLE AREA.
17:53:47 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS LOOKED AT THE COMP PLAN
17:53:48 LEVEL?
17:53:52 >>DAVID HEY: MORE LOOKED AT AT THE REZONING STAGE.
17:53:55 I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A REZONING FOR THIS SITE.
17:53:58 AND THE CITY WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ANY MITIGATION
17:54:03 THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT
17:54:04 WOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE ZONE ZONING.
17:54:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
17:54:07 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.
17:54:10 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM
17:54:12 NUMBER 5.
17:54:13 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
17:54:16 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
17:54:18 AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:54:19 IN ALL FAVOR.
17:54:22 ANY OPPOSED?
17:54:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING ITEM
17:54:26 NUMBER 5.
17:54:28 >> THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
17:54:33 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, PA-19-09.
17:54:34 BEING PRESENT TODAY EVER FIRST READING OF
17:54:35 CONSIDERATION.
17:54:37 THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
17:54:40 FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
17:54:45 AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH MASCOTTE STREET AND
17:54:48 WEST CANAL STREET FROM HEAVY STILL HAVE HI TO
17:54:53 RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES
17:54:55 IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING
17:54:58 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
17:55:02 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
17:55:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
17:55:05 IN FAVOR.
17:55:06 OPPOSED?
17:55:08 >> CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
17:55:13 IT IS APPROVED.
17:55:17 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 6, SIR.
17:55:21 >>DAVID HEY: NEXT ITEM -- THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS AS PART
17:55:22 OF THIS AMENDMENT.
17:55:27 IT IS 19-07, A-D.
17:55:31 E WAS CONTINUED TO THAT NEXT CYCLE, SULPHUR SPRINGS
17:55:33 PARK.
17:55:35 WE WILL GET INTO THAT.
17:55:39 THESE -- A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
17:55:42 THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT
17:55:45 STAFF REVIEWING OUR PARK LAND AND MAKING SURE THAT IT
17:55:49 WAS APPROPRIATELY REFLECTED IN THE DEDICATED PARK LIST
17:55:51 AND ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAPS.
17:55:57 WE STARTED THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING OR COORDINATING
17:56:00 WITH THE CITY AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
17:56:02 SO THIS IS THE FIRST ROUND OF PROBABLY MANY THAT YOU
17:56:06 WILL SEE OVER THE COMING YEAR OR TWO OR WHO KNOWS, BUT
17:56:10 -- SO EACH ONE WILL REQUIRE A VOTE.
17:56:14 THERE IS -- THERE IS AN ORDINANCE FOR EACH PART.
17:56:17 SO WE WILL -- WE WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THESE.
17:56:21 AGAIN, THIS IS THE MAP OF ALL FIVE.
17:56:23 THE FOUR THAT WE WILL BE SEEING TONIGHT ARE SITE A
17:56:27 CORONA PARK WHICH IS DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA, HIGHLAND
17:56:32 PINES PARK WHICH IS B OVER IN EAST COMPANY.
17:56:35 THERE IS C, LINCOLN GARDENS PARK.
17:56:42 AND THEN OAK PARK, OVER IN EAST TAMPA.
17:56:44 A LITTLE BACK GROUND, AGAIN.
17:56:47 THIS PROCESS WAS INITIATED BY YOU ALL.
17:56:50 IT -- THESE -- EACH OF THE FIVE PARKS THAT -- WELL,
17:56:56 FOUR NOW THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED ARE LISTED IN THE
17:56:59 CITY'S DEDICATED PARK LIST WHICH IS CHAPTER 16, SECTION
17:57:04 91 IN THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND TONIGHT ALL
17:57:08 THESE ARE GOING TO THE RECREATION/OPEN SPACE.
17:57:13 WE SENT -- AS WE NORMALLY DO, WE SENT THESE TO OUR
17:57:14 PARTNER AGENCIES.
17:57:17 NONE HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH THIS REQUEST.
17:57:24 AND WE DID FIND ALL OF THE AMOUNTS CONSISTENT WITH --
17:57:26 AMENDMENTS CONSISTENT WITH GOALS RELATED TO THE
17:57:30 PROMOTION AND PROTECTION OF THE RECREATION AND OPPONENT
17:57:32 SPACE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY.
17:57:38 SO THE FIRST ONE, THIS IS SITE A, CORONA PARK, SOUTH
17:57:40 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
17:57:43 MOST SPECIFICALLY THE PALMA CEIA NEIGHBORHOOD.
17:57:45 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
17:57:46 CORONA STREET.
17:57:48 SOUTH STERLING.
17:57:51 YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG DALE MABRY AND
17:57:55 THEN IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL, TURNS INTO
17:57:56 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
17:58:00 HERE IS A FEW PICTURES OF THE PARK.
17:58:03 WE ARE LOOKING SOUTHEAST TOWARD CORONA PARK FROM CORONA
17:58:04 STREET.
17:58:08 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH DOWN STERLING AVENUE FROM THE
17:58:12 INTERSECTION OF WEST CORONA AND THIS IS THE PARK OVER
17:58:13 HERE ON THE RIGHT.
17:58:17 AND THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN WEST CORONA STREET.
17:58:20 THE PARK IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OUT OF FRAME.
17:58:22 YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
17:58:25 HERE WE HAVE THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
17:58:31 THERE ARE TWO CATEGORIES, RESIDENTIAL-10 AND A SMALL
17:58:33 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
17:58:37 IF THIS AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, IT WILL GO TO THE
17:58:39 RECREATION/OPEN SPACE REFLECTED BY THE GREEN.
17:58:44 AGAIN, THIS REMOVES THE POTENTIAL FOR TEN DWELLING
17:58:48 UNITS OR 10,059 SQUARE FEET AND ALL DEVELOPMENT WILL
17:58:54 NOW HAVE TO BE REC-ORIENTED OR OPEN SPACE EITHER PUBLIC
17:58:56 OR PRIVATE, BUT ALL OF THESE ARE ONLY BY THE CITY, SO
17:58:58 THEY WOULD ALL BE PUBLIC.
17:59:00 BASED ON THAT, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT
17:59:05 THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT 1907 A BE FOUND CONSISTENT
17:59:08 WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
17:59:11 >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH EACH OF
17:59:12 THEM?
17:59:14 >>DAVID HEY: I CAN DO ALL OF THEM AND YOU CAN VOTE.
17:59:17 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT AND WE WILL JUST READ THEM
17:59:19 SEPARATELY.
17:59:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR?
17:59:25 JUST AS A MATTER OF TIME -- OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
17:59:26 DAYS.
17:59:29 THESE ALL LOOK PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
17:59:32 I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A, B, C OR D.
17:59:37 SO PROBABLY NOT A WHOLE LOT ELSE TO ADD, RIGHT, DAVID.
17:59:39 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND ALL CONSISTENT.
17:59:43 IT IS -- I WILL CONTINUE IF YOU WOULD LIKE OR --
17:59:45 >>LUIS VIERA: WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOU GO ON -- NO, I
17:59:46 AM JOKING.
17:59:49 UNLESS IF ANYBODY SPECIFICALLY WISHES TO HAVE MR. HEY
17:59:51 GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM.
17:59:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR THE RECORD CAN YOU NAME -- AND
17:59:56 WE SAY YEAH, WE AGREE.
17:59:57 >> YOU COULD DO THAT.
18:00:00 IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT CLOSE THE HEARINGS AND DO EACH
18:00:04 ONE INDIVIDUALLY BUT I SUGGEST YOU TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT
18:00:04 --
18:00:06 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE EACH ORDINANCE IS READ, WE WILL
18:00:08 DO THAT.
18:00:13 I DO WANT TO SOMETHING WE BEGAN IN THE LAST COUNCIL.
18:00:16 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ SPEARHEADED THIS TO LOOK AT OUR GREEN
18:00:19 SPACES TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE PRESERVED TO THE HIGHEST
18:00:24 EXTENT THAT OUR LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS WOULD GO
18:00:28 FORWARD WITH TAMPA I WANTED TO GIVE TO SHOUT OUT TO OUR
18:00:32 FORMER COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.
18:00:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE SUAREZ AMENDMENTS.
18:00:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ON TO NUMBER 6 -- STRIKE THAT, BEFORE WE
18:00:38 GO ON TO NUMBER SIX.
18:00:41 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HEAR TO SPEAK ON NUMBER SIX, IF
18:00:42 SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
18:00:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO CLOSE NUMBER SIX.
18:00:47 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
18:00:53 DINGFELDER AND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SECOND.
18:00:54 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:00:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO MOVE.
18:01:01 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT ON NUMBER 7.
18:01:04 ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON NUMBER 7.
18:01:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:01:08 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
18:01:10 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:01:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:01:12 ANY OPPOSED?
18:01:14 YOU MOVE THE RESOLUTION SIR.
18:01:19 >> MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PA19-07 B MOVE TO
18:01:20 TRANSMIT.
18:01:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
18:01:25 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
18:01:26 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:01:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:01:28 ANY OPPOSED?
18:01:29 OKAY.
18:01:31 MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
18:01:34 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER
18:01:35 8?
18:01:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CLOSE.
18:01:38 >> SECOND.
18:01:40 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE OUR --
18:01:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEBODY SECOND?
18:01:44 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST MAKING SURE.
18:01:47 A MOTION TO CLOSE -- DID SOMEBODY -- ANYBODY HERE TO
18:01:49 SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 8?
18:01:51 OH, I'M SORRY.
18:01:53 COME FORWARD, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, MA'AM.
18:01:54 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
18:01:56 >> HI, I AM RHONDA CAMPBELL.
18:01:58 I RESIDE AT LEAF AND GARDENS.
18:02:01 I WAS LOOKING AT CLARIFICATION ON THIS BECAUSE IT WAS
18:02:03 POSTED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE
18:02:05 GOING TO DO.
18:02:08 ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS CONTACTED CITY HALL TO TRY TO GET
18:02:09 INFORMATION.
18:02:11 I ALSO CONTACTED RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
18:02:14 THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GIVE ME ANY CLARIFICATION.
18:02:18 BUT SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE, I AM GETTING A BETTER
18:02:20 UNDERSTANDING.
18:02:23 BUT WITH YOU REZONING IT IN THAT MANNER.
18:02:25 IS IT GOING TO BE PROTECTED.
18:02:27 BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE TAKING THAT
18:02:31 FROM BEING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT A DEVELOPER
18:02:36 COULDN'T COME THROUGH AND TAKE AWAY THE LAND AND PUT
18:02:38 SOMETHING ELSE THERE?
18:02:39 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:02:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN THIS ALL CAME OUT WITH THE
18:02:46 LAST COUNCIL, AND THE COUNCILMAN MENTIONED COUNCILMAN
18:02:48 SUAREZ.
18:02:52 VILLA PARK CAME UP ON ARMENIA CAN A DEVELOPER COME IN
18:02:53 AND DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.
18:02:56 THIS WILL ESSENTIALLY PROTECT IT TAKING IT FROM WHERE
18:02:59 IT IS ZONED NOW R-10 WHERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD
18:03:02 LEGALLY TECHNICALLY TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE SO IT
18:03:03 STAYS AS A PARK.
18:03:07 SO YOU DON'T HAVE WORRY ABOUT SOMEONE COMING IN IN THE
18:03:08 FUTURE.
18:03:10 >> IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
18:03:13 WHAT THIS DOES IF THE CITY WOULD DISPOSE OF THIS
18:03:15 PROPERTY BEFORE THE CHANGE BECAUSE IT HAS THE
18:03:18 UNDERLYING LAND USE, IT COULD BE DEVELOPABLE.
18:03:21 THIS ADDS AN ADDED PROTECTION IF IT WERE TO CHANGE IT
18:03:23 WOULD BE A PUBLIC POLICY DECISION OF THIS CITY COUNCIL
18:03:27 THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THEM.
18:03:29 AND YOU WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY AS THE PUBLIC TO KNOW
18:03:30 ABOUT THAT.
18:03:32 >> AND IT COULD POSSIBLY BE REZONED?
18:03:36 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND SOME
18:03:38 APARTMENTS THAT ABUT UP AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:03:40 WITH THEM BUILDING GRADY SQUARE OVER THERE, THEY ONLY
18:03:43 HAVE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
18:03:47 MY BIGGEST FEAR IS YOU GUYS MAY CLOSE THAT OFF AND PUT
18:03:50 A ROADWAY THROUGH THERE -- YOU KNOW, ANYTHING COULD
18:03:51 HAPPEN.
18:03:53 SO THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME.
18:03:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND VALID CONCERN IN THIS
18:03:57 PARTICULAR CASE.
18:03:58 WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE.
18:04:01 WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT THIS PARK LAND STAYS PARK LAND,
18:04:05 AND THAT IS WHAT THIS PLAN AMENDMENT DOES.
18:04:07 IT TAKES THE OPPORTUNITY AWAY TO DEVELOPMENT IT AS
18:04:08 RELATION ANYTHING.
18:04:09 IT IS CITY.
18:04:10 IT'S PARK.
18:04:11 BOOM.
18:04:11 >> GREAT, THANK YOU.
18:04:14 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
18:04:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS -- FOR ME, A LOT OF PARKS IN
18:04:20 AREA IN MY DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
18:04:24 MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO OVER THE HARRIET GOLF COURSE AND
18:04:27 FOLKS TALKING ABOUT PROSPECTIVELY BUILDING SOMETHING
18:04:29 OTHER THAN A GOLF COURSE ON THAT HUGE PIECE OF GREEN
18:04:31 SPACE FOR OUR FRIENDS IN FOREST HILLS.
18:04:34 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TAKES ALL OF THESE GREEN SPACES,
18:04:36 ALL OF THESE PARKS AND PROVIDES AN EXTRA LAYER OF
18:04:37 PROTECTION.
18:04:40 THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING WE SUGGEST.
18:04:40 >> THANK YOU.
18:04:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:04:43 WE APPRECIATE IT.
18:04:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:04:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 8.
18:04:50 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY
18:04:52 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:04:53 IN FAVOR.
18:04:55 OPPOSED?
18:05:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 8, PA19-07 C MOVE TO
18:05:02 TRANSMIT.
18:05:04 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND
18:05:07 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:05:08 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:05:13 ANY OPPOSED.
18:05:15 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:05:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:05:18 NEXT ITEM NUMBER 9.
18:05:22 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 9?
18:05:25 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:05:25 >> SECOND.
18:05:27 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:05:30 AND, MA'AM, I AM SORRY, YOU ARE AN INTERPRETER?
18:05:32 >> YOU ARE THE INTERPRETER?
18:05:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WE WILL BEGIN THE FIRST THING WHEN THE
18:05:36 6:00 ONES COME.
18:05:41 A MOTION TO CLOSE -- WAS IT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
18:05:42 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:05:43 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:05:44 ANY OPPOSED.
18:05:47 COUNCILMAN CARLSON TAKE ITEM NUMBER 9.
18:05:50 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I FOR ONE SECOND CAN SAY ONE THING.
18:05:54 YOU THANKED COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, AND BESIDES THIS, HE HAS
18:05:56 DONE A LOT OF OTHER GREAT THINGS.
18:05:59 ANOTHER PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS WAS MARY MULHERN.
18:06:02 APPARENTLY THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS A VERY LONG TIME.
18:06:07 THANKS TO ALL OF OUR PREDECESSORS WHO TRIED TO GET THIS
18:06:07 DONE.
18:06:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE TAKE A LOT OF HEAT BUT CREDIT TO
18:06:12 THE OLD-TIMERS.
18:06:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME, SO THANK YOU.
18:06:16 THANK YOU.
18:06:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK YOU GOT TO VOTE ON IT.
18:06:20 TRYING TO MICROMANAGE.
18:06:23 MR. DINGFELDER, IF I RECALL THERE ARE ORDER TO SELL
18:06:25 PUBLIC LAND, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC VOTE ON IT.
18:06:27 NOT US, EVERYBODY.
18:06:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE SAID THESE ARE LISTED AS THE
18:06:30 ORDINANCE PARKS.
18:06:36 AND EVEN FURTHER PROTECTED.
18:06:41 >> SO MOVE TO TRANSMIT FILE PA-07 D.
18:06:45 >>LUIS VIERA: A BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECOND BY
18:06:46 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:06:46 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:06:48 ANY OPPOSED?
18:06:48 OKAY.
18:06:53 WE MOVE NEXT TO ITEM 11.
18:06:56 AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR MENTIONING FORMER
18:07:01 COLLEAGUE COUNCILWOMAN MULHERN.
18:07:04 MOVE ON TO ITEM 11.
18:07:07 >> GOOD EVENING, DANNY COLLINS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION
18:07:12 STAFF, PLAN AMENDMENT 19-08.
18:07:15 SUBJECT SITE IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT, MORE
18:07:18 SPECIFICALLY THE USF RESEARCH PARK AREA.
18:07:20 QUICK BACKGROUND OF THE REQUEST.
18:07:29 PRIVATELY INITIATED WITH THE USF RESEARCH FOUNDATION.
18:07:31 THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND
18:07:39 SUBURBAN MIXED USE 6 TO PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC AN AREA OF
18:07:43 THE SURROUNDING SITE AND PROPERTY.
18:07:44 ARMENIA.
18:07:46 BRUCE B. DOWNS RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
18:07:49 THIS AREA TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST IS THE UNIVERSITY
18:07:50 OF SOUTH FLORIDA CAMPUS.
18:07:53 THE AREA TO THE SOUTH IS THE TAMPA RESEARCH PARK.
18:08:00 AND THE AREA TO THE WEST IS THE UNIVERSITY MALL AREA.
18:08:02 THIS IS LOOKING AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY FROM
18:08:05 EAST FOWLER AVENUE.
18:08:12 THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ALONG THE BOULEVARD.
18:08:16 SOME OF THE RESEARCH BUILDINGS FOUND ON THE BOULEVARD.
18:08:21 AND AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY FROM BRUCE B. DOWNS
18:08:21 BOULEVARD.
18:08:24 THIS IS LOOKING AT SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT IS
18:08:27 CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.
18:08:32 THIS IS ANOTHER IMAGE OF SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND.
18:08:35 THIS IS THE EXISTING ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
18:08:38 YOU WILL SEE THIS AREA TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST IS
18:08:41 THE PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC USE.
18:08:44 THIS AREA IN LIGHT PINK TO THE SOUTH IS LIGHT STILL
18:08:45 HAVE.
18:08:48 THIS AREA YOU FURTHER TO THE SOUTH IS HEAVY STILL HAVE.
18:08:51 THIS AREA TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS UNDER THE
18:08:54 JURISDICTION OF UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
18:08:57 AND THIS AREA HAS LIGHT COMMERCIAL, OFFICE COMMERCIAL,
18:09:02 AND A RANGE OF MIXED USES CURRENTLY.
18:09:05 THIS IS THE PROPOSED FEATURE LAND USE MAP.
18:09:08 I WILL SHOW THE SUBJECT SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BLUE
18:09:09 COLOR.
18:09:17 AND, AGAIN, THAT REPRESENTS THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC USE.
18:09:20 THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
18:09:22 THE AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW FOR GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND
18:09:26 INTENSITY AND TYPES OF USES ALLOWED ON THE SITE AND THE
18:09:29 AMENDMENT WILL ALSO RECOGNIZE PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF THE
18:09:35 LAND AND MORE SPECIFICALLY BY THE UNIVERSITY.
18:09:38 THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND
18:09:39 THE AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL OF THE
18:09:43 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED CENTERS AND POLICIES.
18:09:48 THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE OBJECTIVE 6.1
18:09:53 TO TRANSPORT MAJOR CORRIDORS FOR A BROAD RANGE OF USES
18:09:55 SPECIFICALLY ALONG EAST FOWLER AVENUE.
18:09:58 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
18:10:01 WITH POLICY DIRECTION UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
18:10:05 OVERLOOK TECH CORRIDORS AND CENTERS.
18:10:09 AND TO PRESERVE THE LAND FOR STILL HAVE RESEARCH AND
18:10:12 OFFICE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE GREEN TECHNOLOGY CORRIDOR
18:10:15 AND ENSURE THE CONTINUED PROSPERITY OF COMPETITIVENESS
18:10:18 OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
18:10:20 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
18:10:23 FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA
18:10:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:10:26 I AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
18:10:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:10:30 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
18:10:34 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 11?
18:10:35 IF SO, COME FORWARD.
18:10:39 YES, MA'AM.
18:10:44 >> GOOD EVENING, JULIA MANDEL WITH THE LAW FIRM OF GRAY
18:10:47 ROBINSON,411 JACKSON STREET.
18:10:51 I AM HERE TO REPRESENT THE USF RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF
18:10:52 THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
18:10:55 STAFF IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE ARE
18:10:56 TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH UP HERE.
18:10:58 THIS IS INTENDED TO OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS
18:11:02 AREA TO BE DEVELOPED ALONG WITH THE GREEN CORRIDOR AND
18:11:06 WITH TECHNOLOGY CENTERS TO OPEN UP TECHNOLOGIES FOR JOB
18:11:10 AND TO HELP PROMOTE THE USES THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE
18:11:11 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
18:11:12 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:11:16 I SHOULD ADD, ALISON MADDEN FROM THE USF RESEARCH
18:11:22 FOUNDATION AND HILLARY BLACK COUNSEL WITH USF ARE HERE
18:11:22 AS WELL.
18:11:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:11:24 WE APPRECIATE IT.
18:11:25 ANY QUESTIONS?
18:11:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
18:11:31 ANYONE ELSE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 11.
18:11:32 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
18:11:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO CLOSE SECOND.
18:11:41 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WILL YOU MIND
18:11:43 TAKING ITEM NUMBER 11.
18:11:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SHOULD DEFER TO MR. CITRO.
18:11:49 HE IS ALL ABOUT --
18:11:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL WAIT UNTIL THIS IS DONE BEFORE
18:11:53 I MAKE A STATEMENT.
18:11:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT ARE WE ON, NUMBER 11.
18:11:56 >> YES, SIR.
18:11:59 >> MOVE REGARD TO PA19-08.
18:12:05 MOVE TO TRANSMIT THE -- TRANSMIT THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
18:12:07 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:12:11 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:12:14 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
18:12:17 >> THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND MIRANDA BEING
18:12:19 ABSENT AT VOTE.
18:12:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE
18:12:25 FOR THE ON-CAMPUS STADIUM FOR THE USF BULLS FOOTBALL
18:12:26 TEAM.
18:12:30 [LAUGHTER]
18:12:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS THAT FALLS INTO PUBLIC-SEMI
18:12:34 PUBLIC.
18:12:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL SAID.
18:12:38 NEXT WE MOVE CONTINUE TO THE LAST ITEM BEFORE WE GO TO
18:12:40 THE 6:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
18:12:42 ITEM NUMBER 12.
18:12:42 >> MR. CHAIR.
18:12:49 BEFORE WE BEGIN, ITEMS 12 AND THEREAFTER ARE 6:00.
18:12:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM SO SORRY.
18:12:52 I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
18:12:54 MR. CARLSON, YOU HAD SOMETHING.
18:12:56 >>BILL CARLSON: ARE WE GOING TO DO THESE TWO.
18:12:58 >>LUIS VIERA: WE NEED TO FIRST MOVE -- I BELIEVE IT IS
18:13:02 ITEM 18 HAS AN INTERPRETER.
18:13:04 SO IF YOU TAKE THAT FIRST.
18:13:09 BUT ITEM 18 IS A QUASI JUDICIAL AND LET'S -- I SEE.
18:13:11 LET'S DO ITEM 18.
18:13:14 LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN -- A MOTION TO OPEN THE
18:13:16 QUASIJUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING.
18:13:22 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
18:13:22 GUDES.
18:13:27 AND MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE 18 BEFORE 12.
18:13:31 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:13:32 ANY OPPOSED?
18:13:35 ITEM 18, ANYONE HERE?
18:13:36 SORRY, YES, SIR.
18:13:38 IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE HERE AND YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK
18:13:43 OR TESTIFY ON ANY ITEM HERE THAT IS QUASIJUDICIAL WHICH
18:13:46 IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD.
18:13:48 PLEASE STAND UP IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO, RAISE YOUR
18:13:51 RIGHT HAND AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.
18:13:53 >> DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
18:13:57 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:13:57 >> YES.
18:13:59 >> THANK YOU.
18:14:02 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.
18:14:04 >> MAY I PROCEED?
18:14:04 >> YES, MA'AM.
18:14:10 >> M 18, MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
18:14:22 REZ REZONING REQUEST FOR 8704 NORTH OTIS AVENUE.
18:14:24 >> GOOD EVENING, JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
18:14:25 COMMISSION STAFF.
18:14:27 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT
18:14:31 WITHIN THE LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:14:34 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET TO THE
18:14:37 WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE WITHIN A LEVEL E EVACUATION
18:14:38 ZONE.
18:14:44 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION IS CHENEY PARK THAT IS
18:14:46 LOCATED 4,000 FEET TO THE EAST.
18:14:50 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
18:14:50 RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER.
18:14:52 THIS IS NORTH OTIS AVENUE.
18:14:54 I HAVE NORTH BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE.
18:14:57 AND THEN -- YEAH, WE ARE IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING
18:14:58 DISTRICT.
18:15:01 AND THAT IS REFLECTED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHICH
18:15:03 IS ALL ONE COLOR.
18:15:05 ALL RESIDENTIAL 10.
18:15:06 THAT IS THAT ORANGE COLOR.
18:15:10 THE R-10 ALLOWS 10 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE.
18:15:16 PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
18:15:20 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNED POLICY AND ALLOW
18:15:23 FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE AND COMPATIBLE WITH INFILL
18:15:26 AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE FORM OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
18:15:28 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
18:15:29 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
18:15:32 THANK YOU.
18:15:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO FROM PLANNING DESIGN
18:15:37 COORDINATION.
18:15:46 EUCLIDIAN FROM RS-60 TO RS-50.
18:15:48 NO SITE PLANS AND NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
18:15:51 AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN RED AS YOU SEE.
18:15:54 THE MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THE RS-60
18:15:56 ZONING DISTRICT AND SOME REZONINGS IN THE IMMEDIATE
18:16:02 AREA TO GO TO THE RS-50 OR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
18:16:04 CREATE 50-FOOT-WIDE LOTS.
18:16:10 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT UP AND DOWN
18:16:15 THE STREET ARE A SERIES OF DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
18:16:16 HOUSES.
18:16:19 THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN BY MYSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
18:16:20 STREET.
18:16:32 SO YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE THE HOUSES ARE TO EACH OTHER.
18:16:35 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY MEETS THE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA FOR
18:16:40 THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS A 50-FOOT-WIDE LOT
18:16:43 AND 5,000-SQUARE-FEET IN AREA.
18:16:46 THIS LOT IS 50 FEET WIDE AND 115 FEET DEEP.
18:16:53 SO THE TOTAL LOT AREA IS 5,750 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL.
18:16:58 THIS LOT WAS ILLEGALLY CREATED IN APPROXIMATELY 2000 BY
18:17:00 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
18:17:03 THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT WAS PART OF THIS ILLEGAL SPLIT
18:17:06 HAS BEEN FLAGGED BEFORE BY OUR DEPARTMENT.
18:17:10 AND THIS -- THE CURRENT APPLICANT WAS WANTING TO REZONE
18:17:13 IT TO RS-50 TO BRING IT IN COMPLIANCE TO DEVELOP THE
18:17:16 PROPERTY FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
18:17:20 SEEING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF HAS REVIEWED
18:17:22 APPLICATION AND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
18:17:25 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
18:17:27 >> ANY QUESTION BY THE BOARD?
18:17:28 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
18:17:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION -- YOU
18:17:34 MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, THE DIMENSION OF THIS
18:17:36 LOT IS ACTUALLY 50 FEET.
18:17:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
18:17:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OR THEREABOUTS.
18:17:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: 50 FEET WIDE BY 115.
18:17:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE
18:17:46 TWO LOTS OUT OF ONE.
18:17:50 MORE OR LESS THE ZONING CONFORMANCE.
18:17:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
18:17:53 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:17:56 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR THE INTERPRETER?
18:17:58 >> YES ASK THE APPLICANT AND THE INTERPRETER TO COME
18:18:07 FORWARD AND HAVE THE INTERPRETER BE SWORN, PLEASE.
18:18:09 >> DO YOU AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
18:18:12 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
18:18:15 >> THAT YOU ACCURATELY TRANSLATE FROM SPANISH TO
18:18:19 ENGLISH AND FROM ENGLISH TO SPANISH.
18:18:20 >> I WILL.
18:18:24 >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
18:18:50 >> MILADY GUEVARA.
18:18:53 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME THE
18:18:59 OPPORTUNITY PLEASE TO HAVE THIS APPLICATION APPROVED.
18:19:01 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:19:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE, YOU ARE THE OWNER OF
18:19:05 THE LOT?
18:19:07 >> NO.
18:19:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
18:19:11 ARE YOU THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER OF THE LOT?
18:19:12 >> YES.
18:19:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT FAMILY?
18:19:19 >> FRIEND.
18:19:19 >> FRIEND.
18:19:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE PAPERWORK TO SHOW SHE IS
18:19:25 THE AGENT JUST FOR THE RECORD?
18:19:26 >> YES, I DO.
18:19:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARY --
18:19:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: EXCUSE ME, SHE IS THE AUTHORIZED
18:19:31 AGENT.
18:19:33 SHE IS THE APPLICANT HOWEVER SHE IS NOT THE CURRENT
18:19:35 PROPERTY OWNER.
18:19:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
18:19:40 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD
18:19:41 MEMBERS?
18:19:42 NO?
18:19:46 ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW GO TO THE PUBLIC
18:19:48 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
18:19:51 IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
18:19:54 NUMBER 18, PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR
18:19:56 NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
18:19:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:19:59 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
18:20:02 MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:20:03 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:20:04 WHO HAS THE LAST ONE.
18:20:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL READ IT.
18:20:10 ITEM NUMBER 18, FILE NUMBER REZ 19-81.
18:20:13 MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION OF
18:20:17 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY OF 8704 NORTH OTIS
18:20:19 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
18:20:21 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE ZONING
18:20:26 DISTRICT CLASS AT THIS RS-60 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO
18:20:29 RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
18:20:32 >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
18:20:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:20:41 >> MOTION CARRIES WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
18:20:44 SECOND READING OCTOBER 17 AT 9:30.
18:20:54 >> SORRY, OCTOBER 17 AT 9:30?
18:20:58 >> YES.
18:21:00 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:21:01 THANK YOU.
18:21:05 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO BACK NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 12.
18:21:09 I BELIEVE, AND WE DID OPEN THE 6 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING
18:21:11 AND RETURN THERE.
18:21:14 >> I NEED TO OBTAIN FROM THIS.
18:21:15 >> YES, COUNCILMAN.
18:21:18 >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 12 AND 13 -- I DO NEED TO SAY
18:21:20 ANYTHING ELSE?
18:21:23 >> WELL, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ADVISED ME THAT --
18:21:25 >>BILL CARLSON: I RECENTLY LEARNED -- JUST BEFORE THE
18:21:28 MEETING I LEARNED THAT ONE OF THE CLIENTS OF MY FIRM
18:21:31 OWNS SOME PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY OF THIS.
18:21:34 SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET AN OPINION ON WHETHER IT IS A
18:21:38 CONFLICT OR NOT, BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
18:21:41 >> BASED ON WHAT YOU SHARED WITH ME, COUNCIL --
18:21:43 COUNCILMAN, IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT IT
18:21:47 APPEARS THAT THIS IS REMOTE AND SPECULATIVE; HOWEVER,
18:21:52 SECTION 286 OF FLORIDA STATUTES -- IF I CAN PULL IT UP
18:21:56 RIGHT HERE -- 286.012 STATES THAT IF THE OFFICIAL
18:22:00 DECISION RULING OR ACT OCCURS IN THE QUASIJUDICIAL
18:22:05 THESE TWO ARE LINKED AND ONE IS THE REZONING A MEMBER
18:22:10 MAY ABSTAIN IF IT IS TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING FREE
18:22:13 FROM BIAS AND PREJUDICE AND TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF
18:22:20 ANY IMPROPRIETY YOU ARE ABSTAINING, IS THAT CORRECT?
18:22:21 >> YES.
18:22:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, SEE YOU LATER.
18:22:26 WE WILL GO TO NUMBER 12, WHICH GOES WITH ITEM 13.
18:22:29 BUT START WITH NUMBER 12.
18:22:36 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
18:22:39 I WILL PRESENT ON ITEM 12 FIRST.
18:22:41 YEAH, I WILL START WITH ITEM 12.
18:22:47 SO THIS HAS A HISTORY OCCURRED UNDER THE PREVIOUS
18:22:49 COUNCIL OF THE ENTIRE SITE, THE SUBJECT SITE BEFORE YOU
18:22:51 IS A PORTION OF THAT SUBJECT SITE.
18:22:55 WE ARE ALONG ROWLETT PARK DRIVE, EAST SLIGH IS TO THE
18:22:56 SOUTH.
18:22:59 THAT GRAY COLOR IS THE LIGHT STILL HAVE THAT THE
18:23:03 SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY ADOPTED AS AND SURROUNDS THE
18:23:03 SITE.
18:23:05 A TECO FACILITY.
18:23:07 A CITY OF TAMPA WASTEWATER FACILITY AND THE
18:23:08 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
18:23:11 AND TO THE NORTH IS THE ROGERS PARK GOLF COURSE WHICH
18:23:14 IS THAT GREEN OPEN SPACE COLOR.
18:23:16 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO TAKE THESE
18:23:20 APPROXIMATELY 3.7 ACRES FROM LIGHT STILL HAVE TO
18:23:22 RESIDENTIAL 10, WHICH WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTIAL
18:23:26 CONSIDERATION ON THAT PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE, AND
18:23:29 AS I SAID, IT IS JUST A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE FOR
18:23:32 THE PETITIONER IS ASKING FOR.
18:23:34 SO THIS WAS HEARD BY THE PREVIOUS --
18:23:36 >> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT.
18:23:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPEAT THAT LAST PORTION ABOUT
18:23:39 CHANGING.
18:23:42 I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR THAT.
18:23:46 >> FROM LIGHT STILL HAVE TO RESIDENTIAL 10 ON
18:23:48 APPROXIMATELY 3.7 ACRES.
18:23:51 THERE -- AS YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE SUBJECT SITE IS
18:23:55 ABOUT 16.58 ACRES, BUT THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO
18:23:58 ONLY CHANGE WHAT IS OUTLINED IN THE BLACK DASHES, WHICH
18:24:02 IS ABOUT 3.7 ACRES.
18:24:04 >> THE PROPERTY IS 16.8?
18:24:07 >> YES, MORE OR LESS, APPROXIMATELY.
18:24:10 THIS IS THE REQUEST BUFFER TODAY.
18:24:12 I DO NOT HAVE AN INITIAL PLANNING COMMISSION
18:24:15 RECOMMENDATION ON THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST BECAUSE THIS
18:24:19 WAS HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL BACK AT THE END OF JANUARY
18:24:20 UNDER A DIFFERENT REQUEST.
18:24:25 THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO CONTINUE THIS AMENDMENT AND
18:24:25 HERE WE ARE TODAY.
18:24:29 AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT HAS BEEN AMENDED, THE
18:24:29 REQUEST.
18:24:33 AND -- WITH THE ACREAGE AND THE FUTURE LAND USE
18:24:37 CATEGORY THAT THE PETITIONER WAS ASKING FOR.
18:24:39 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE,
18:24:41 DID THEY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THE PLANNING
18:24:43 COMMISSION ORIGINALLY HAD?
18:24:45 JUST SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE?
18:24:48 >> SURE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO FIND THIS
18:24:49 CONSISTENT.
18:24:51 >> OKAY -- OKAY, SO THERE YOU GO.
18:24:54 THIS DOES NOT IN ANY WAY DISTURB --
18:24:56 >> SORRY, ORIGINALLY.
18:24:56 ORIGINALLY.
18:24:59 BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2018.
18:25:02 >> OKAY, AND THIS IN NO WAY DISTURBING THAT CONSISTENT
18:25:04 FINDING OR HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T
18:25:06 COME BACK BEFORE YOU?
18:25:06 >> THE LATTER.
18:25:10 HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT COME BEFORE US.
18:25:12 AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
18:25:14 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:25:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:25:16 >> THANK YOU.
18:25:19 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
18:25:24 APPLICANT.
18:25:28 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEN, TODD PRESSMAN.
18:25:30 200 SECOND AVENUE SOUTH.
18:25:33 I HAVE A POWERPOINT FOR YOU IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP,
18:25:33 PLEASE.
18:25:38 MR. CHAIRMAN, AND COUNCILMEMBERS, I AM HAPPY, THRILLED
18:25:41 AND I AM HONORED TO BE REPRESENTING THE BEST GROUP OF
18:25:44 PEOPLE I HAVE EVER REPRESENTED IN MY 25 YEARS.
18:25:52 I AM HERE TODAY WITH ONE MORE CHILD HOPESTREET CAMPUS
18:25:55 IN ASSOCIATION WITH IDLEWILD BAPTIST CHURCH FOR THIS
18:25:57 REQUEST BEFORE YOU AND I AM GOING TO SKIP THROUGH FOR
18:26:00 THE LAND USE PART -- LAND USE AMENDMENT PARTS ON THE
18:26:00 POWERPOINT FOR YOU.
18:26:03 I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE GREAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
18:26:07 EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE, IF I MAY, WHO IS IN SUPPORT WILL
18:26:10 YOU PLEASE STAND UP.
18:26:12 THANK YOU.
18:26:12 POWERPOINT.
18:26:13 THANK YOU.
18:26:17 WE DO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S BOARD SUPPORT.
18:26:21 THEY VOTED TO FIND CONSISTENT THE ENTIRE SITE OF THE
18:26:22 LAND USE THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
18:26:26 REDUCED IT A SMALL AMOUNT AFTER TALKING WITH NEIGHBORS.
18:26:27 WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE
18:26:29 SUPPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, WE HAVE THE
18:26:32 STRONG SUPPORT OF YOUR STAFF AND WE HAVE THE SUPPORT
18:26:34 SIGN OFF OF EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF
18:26:37 TAMPA.
18:26:41 AND THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAS A LONG TIME DECADES
18:26:44 HISTORY OF OUTSTANDING MISSION IN THE CITY.
18:26:48 NOW THE SENIOR MEMBERS HERE WILL REMEMBER THAT WE WERE
18:26:51 HERE ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO WITH A STRAIGHTFORWARD
18:26:52 STANDARD APPLICATION.
18:26:56 WE HAD A ROOM FULL OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTS AND
18:26:57 OTHER FOLKS.
18:27:02 WE HAVE SPENT TREMENDOUS COST ENGINEERING THIS ENTIRE
18:27:05 SITE, ENVIRONMENTAL, TREES, EVERYTHING REQUIRED FOR A
18:27:06 PD PLAN.
18:27:11 WE HAVE MET EVERY REQUEST AND RECOMMENDATION AND DESIRE
18:27:14 OF THE FOLKS WHO HAD CONCERNS, EXCEPT ONE, AND I WILL
18:27:17 TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
18:27:20 THEY WANTED A PD PLAN, WE DID IT.
18:27:22 THEY WANTED TO RESTRICT USES, SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT
18:27:25 THESE GUYS DO, WE DID IT.
18:27:28 THEY WANTED A SEVERE REDUCTION IN THE DENSITY, WE DID
18:27:28 IT.
18:27:31 THEY WANTED A LAND USE AMENDMENT MODIFIED.
18:27:32 WE DID IT.
18:27:36 THEY WANTED A 50-FOOT SETBACK ON THE NORTH.
18:27:36 WE DID IT.
18:27:39 THEY DID EVERYTHING AGAINST IT EXCEPT FOR ONE ITEM THAT
18:27:41 CAME UP LAST WEEK.
18:27:41 LET ME CONTINUE.
18:27:45 SO THE SITE IS LOCATED A LITTLE BIT ON THE EAST SIDE OF
18:27:45 TAMPA.
18:27:49 THIS IS A SITE NORTH OF SLIGH, EAST OF 275.
18:27:52 THIS IS LOOKING A LITTLE CLOSER AS IT EXISTS AND THE
18:27:57 BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.
18:28:02 THIS IS IDLEWILD BAPTIST CHURCH AND ONE MORE CHILD, ONE
18:28:03 MORE CHILD AND HOPESTREET.
18:28:06 THEY PROVIDE OUTSTANDING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
18:28:10 THEY ARE PRIMARILY PROVIDING FOOD SERVICE, NOT AS MEAL
18:28:13 OR SOUP KITCHEN BUT AS A WAREHOUSE WHICH I WILL SHOW
18:28:14 YOU HOW THEY WORK.
18:28:17 SOME OF THE FOLKS WILL MAKE YOU A LITTLE MORE AWARE OF
18:28:19 WHAT THEIR OPERATIONS ARE.
18:28:21 THEY PROVIDE DIAPERS, HOUSEHOLD ITEMS.
18:28:23 THEY ARE INVOLVED WITH ALL THE SCHOOLS.
18:28:26 THEY PROVIDE A MILLION MEALS IN THAT RESPECT AND MANY
18:28:27 VOLUNTEER HOURS.
18:28:28 A HISTORY TO THE SITE.
18:28:31 IN 2016, A LAND USE AMENDMENT CAME THROUGH THAT WAS
18:28:34 APPROVED BY THIS BODY ALLOWING AN INCREASE OR
18:28:37 SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY THAT WAS
18:28:38 APPROVED BY DCA.
18:28:40 THE OWNER PULLED IT.
18:28:42 THE DEAL FELL APART.
18:28:45 I TOLD YOU JANUARY 2019, WE CAME THROUGH WITH A
18:28:46 STANDARD APPLICATION.
18:28:48 WE MADE TREMENDOUS TIME, TREMENDOUS COST, CHANGED
18:28:51 EVERYTHING, RETOOLED IT.
18:28:55 AND WE ARE HERE TODAY WITH SUPPORT.
18:28:59 AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN
18:29:01 TALLAHASSEE APPROVED IT, AS I SAID.
18:29:04 THE ISSUE IS -- THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR LIGHT
18:29:08 INDUSTRIAL HAVE RESIDENTIAL 10 FOR 3.7 ACRES AT THE
18:29:11 EXTREME SOUTH AND THE REZONING WE WILL TALK ABOUT AT
18:29:13 ANOTHER TIME.
18:29:20 SEVERAL WAIVERS FOR THE DRIVE AISLE AND SOME TREES.
18:29:22 -- SORRY, EXCUSE ME.
18:29:23 MY ERROR.
18:29:27 THIS USE IS 85% WAREHOUSING AND TRUCKING OF
18:29:32 NONPERISHABLE FOODS AND A SINGLE MOTHER HOME PROGRAM --
18:29:33 HOUSING PROGRAM FOR 16 UNITS.
18:29:37 TO PRIMARILY HOPESTREET HAS TRUCKS THAT GO TO THE
18:29:41 SUPERMARKETS AND OTHER VOLUNTEERS THAT PROVIDE FOODS.
18:29:43 THEY BRING IT TO THEIR WAREHOUSE WHICH WILL BE THIS
18:29:47 SITE, AND THEY DISTRIBUTE THOSE NONPERISHABLE ITEMS
18:29:51 THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
18:29:53 >> IF WE COULD STOP --
18:29:55 >> I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT
18:29:58 WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS MORE IN THE LINE OF
18:30:01 THE REZONING AS OPPOSED TO THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION
18:30:06 WHICH IS LIMITED TO 3.7 ACRES.
18:30:08 >> WELL, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT, BUT AT THE SAME
18:30:11 TIME, THE COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE A MINIMAL BASIC KNOWLEDGE
18:30:14 WHAT IS PROPOSED ON THE SITE, WHICH IS TWO PRIMARY
18:30:15 USES.
18:30:18 ONE USE IS NOT IN THE LAND USE, BUT I WAS JUST SUGGEST
18:30:21 -- I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WANT,
18:30:24 BUT THE GENTLEMEN CANNOT VOTE IF THEY AT LEAST HAVE A
18:30:27 MINIMAL UNDERSTANDING AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO PROCEED.
18:30:31 >> WHAT IS THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
18:30:34 >>LUIS VIERA: A MINIMAL UNDERSTANDING OF CONTEXT.
18:30:35 WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH, ET CETERA.
18:30:37 BUT LEAVE THAT VERY, VERY LIMITED.
18:30:38 >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
18:30:40 THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY IN THAT REGARD.
18:30:42 IF WE CAN CONTINUE PLEASE.
18:30:45 16.48 ACHES IN TOTAL.
18:30:50 THE LAND USE IS SMALL 3.7 ACRES TO THE SOUTH.
18:30:54 AND IT WILL NOT BE A HOMELESS SHELTER.
18:30:57 AND THEY DON'T COOK SERVER PREPARED MEALS STRICTLY ON
18:31:00 THE SOUTH SIDE A PROGRAM FOR SINGLE MOTHERS TO HOUSE
18:31:00 THEM.
18:31:03 THEY RUN THEM THROUGH A PROGRAM THROUGH MANY MONTHS TO
18:31:05 MAKE THEM SELF-SUFFICIENT.
18:31:06 THIS IS THE LAKELAND CAMPUS.
18:31:07 MINIMAL.
18:31:09 TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT GOES ON.
18:31:12 THE LAKELAND CAMPUS OF THE USES WE TALKED ABOUT.
18:31:16 THE SINGLE MOTHER HOMES THAT ARE AT THAT SITE.
18:31:17 A PD PLAN.
18:31:19 AGAIN THE RELATION HOMES THAT YOU SEE ARE ON THE SOUTH
18:31:22 END AND LAID OUT VERY NICELY.
18:31:24 16 MULTIUNITS.
18:31:27 WE REVISED, AGAIN, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ITEMS AND
18:31:30 THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM.
18:31:35 POINTS OF SUPPORT.
18:31:38 PRIOR CITY COUNCIL VOTED ALREADY TO ALLOW A GREAT -- A
18:31:40 HUGE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL ON THE WHOLE SITE IN 2016
18:31:42 THAT WAS APPROVED.
18:31:44 THE STILL HAVE USE WILL STILL BE THERE.
18:31:47 ECONOMIC SUPPORT WILL STILL REMAIN THERE.
18:31:48 PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS.
18:31:50 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:31:53 LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND VISION OF THE LIGHT
18:31:57 STILL HAVE AND RS-10 ALONG THE DRIVE.
18:32:00 AND A MULTIUSE PROJECT THAT I WILL REFER TO LATER.
18:32:02 I DO WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION
18:32:04 SAID THERE IS MIXED USE IN THE AREA.
18:32:07 YOU CAN SEE THE SITE HERE AND PLENTY OF RESIDENTIAL
18:32:10 THAT WAS ABUTTING TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH ALREADY.
18:32:12 THERE ARE STILL HAVE USES.
18:32:15 THERE IS ALSO A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE ABUTTING TO THE
18:32:16 NORTH.
18:32:19 AS I SAID, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE INSIDE OFF ON THIS
18:32:20 -- EXCUSE ME.
18:32:21 THAT IS ZONING.
18:32:26 SO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE JUDY RISDEN
18:32:30 THE CHIEF OFFICER NOTED ONE MORE CHILD HOPESTREET IS
18:32:33 VITAL TO THE WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.
18:32:37 THIS IS FROM JEFF EAKENS, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS
18:32:38 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
18:32:44 A STRONG DESIRE TO GO ON RECORD WITH THEIR SINCERE
18:32:45 REPORT.
18:32:49 ONE MORE FILED HAS PROVIDED 6,000 MEALS AND COMMUNITY
18:32:51 PARTNERS LIKE ONE MORE CHILD HOPESTREET ARE VITAL TO
18:32:52 THIS COMMUNITY.
18:32:55 AND A COUPLE OF THE POLICIES THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE
18:32:58 OF IS THAT CITY SHOULD WORK WITH EXISTING
18:33:01 COMMUNITY-BASED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE
18:33:05 AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE IN THE STAFF
18:33:08 REPORT AND CONTINUE COLLABORATION WITH PRIVATE AGENCIES
18:33:09 LIKE THESE FOLKS.
18:33:14 SO IN SUMMARY, READ THE ENTIRE PLANS A REQUESTED AND
18:33:16 DESIRED EXCEPT FOR ONE ITEM.
18:33:22 THE CITY COUNCIL STATES TO APPROVE.
18:33:25 MANY COMP PLAN CATEGORIES IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
18:33:28 WILL HAVE AN STILL HAVE COMPONENT THAT WILL NOT BE
18:33:32 TAKEN AWAY AND THEY DO WORK IN DESPERATE NEED OF SOCIAL
18:33:32 SUPPORT.
18:33:35 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL NOTE TO YOU WE HAVE TODAY MR.
18:33:39 STEVEN ROBERT, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT.
18:33:41 THE DIRECTOR OF ONE MORE CHILD HOPESTREET.
18:33:48 STEWART -- CHAIRMAN OF HOPESTREET BOARD AND I WILL BE
18:33:51 SPEAKING THEM.
18:33:57 >> STEVEN ROBERTS. EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT OF HOPESTREET
18:33:58 AND ONE MORE CHILD.
18:34:02 WOE WORK TO CARE FOR VULNERABLE CHILDREN AND STRUGGLING
18:34:03 FAMILIES.
18:34:06 WE LAST YEAR WERE ABLE TO IMPACT MORE THAN 249,000
18:34:12 CHILDREN AND INDIVIDUALS AND PROVIDE MORE THAN 7.4
18:34:13 MILLION MEALS.
18:34:16 WHILE OUR IMPACT IS VAST, IT OFTEN BEGINS WITH
18:34:20 PREVENTIVE CARE AND ALSO A SINGLE HOME, A SINGLE HOME
18:34:25 WHERE A CHILD WILL KNOW LOVE, SAFETY, AND HOPE.
18:34:29 IN TAMPA, 48% OF THE FAMILIES DO NOT BRING IN ENOUGH
18:34:33 INCOME TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS FOR HOUSING, CHILD
18:34:34 CARE AND FOOD.
18:34:36 58% OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOLERS ARE
18:34:40 ELIGIBLE FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH.
18:34:44 NEARLY 37% OF CHILDREN IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LIVE IN A
18:34:46 SINGLE PARENT HOME.
18:34:48 SO THIS PROPERTY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON ROWLETT
18:34:53 PARK DRIVE, THAT 3.7 ACRES WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON
18:34:57 VULNERABLE CHILDREN AND WILL STRENGTHEN FAMILIES IN
18:34:58 TAMPA.
18:35:00 TOGETHER, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
18:35:04 AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THESE LIFE-CHANGING RESOURCES
18:35:08 TO OUR FAMILIES IN TAMPA.
18:35:13 WHEN WE -- AS TODD MENTIONED, WE HAVE TAKEN EVERY
18:35:16 RECOMMENDATION TO SEE THIS PROJECT THROUGH TO ITS
18:35:18 COMPLETION SO WE CAN CARE FOR CHILDREN.
18:35:21 SO WE CAN MAKE AN IMPACT TO THESE FAMILIES.
18:35:24 BECAUSE OF THIS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HELP TO
18:35:26 SINGLE MOMS AND THEIR CHILDREN.
18:35:30 IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING AS THEY WORK HARD TO BECOME
18:35:31 SELF-SUFFICIENT.
18:35:34 WE WILL MEET TANGIBLE NEEDS WHILE ALSO EQUIPPING KIDS
18:35:40 AND FAMILY TO BREAK THAT CYCLE OF DEPENDENCY.
18:35:45 IT IS VITAL THAT -- AND WE URGE TO YOU PLEASE SUPPORT
18:35:50 WHAT OUR REQUEST IS TODAY.
18:35:54 >> I AM KEITH, DIRECTOR OF PROGRAM FOR ONE MORE CHILD
18:35:54 HOPESTREET.
18:35:58 I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME QUALITATIVE BACKDROP OF WHAT
18:36:00 WE CURRENTLY DO IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
18:36:03 THIS IS A QUOTE FROM A MOTHER OF ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS
18:36:04 THAT WE SERVE.
18:36:07 SHE SAID, WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE DOING WITH THESE KIDS,
18:36:08 KEEP IT UP.
18:36:10 I SEE MAJOR CHANGES IN MY SON.
18:36:12 AND I AM SAD IT'S OVER.
18:36:15 PLEASE KEEP IN TOUCH AND LET ME KNOW IF ANY OTHER
18:36:17 PROGRAMS YOU GUYS MAY OFFER.
18:36:21 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED ABOUT -- BACK IN 2016,
18:36:25 THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL GAVE US APPROVAL TO PROVIDE
18:36:28 PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AT THE GEORGE BARTHOLOMEW
18:36:33 COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE INITIALLY WE STARTED.
18:36:35 SO QUICK BACKDROP.
18:36:39 IN 2017, WE SERVED 50 YOUNG MEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
18:36:40 JUVENILE JUSTICE.
18:36:44 2018 SERVE 36 BOYS AND 28 GIRLS WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
18:36:47 AND YEAR TO DATE, WE SERVE 34 BOYS AND 17 GIRLS.
18:36:52 WE SERVE COUNTLESS YOUTH GLOBALLY, ACROSS THIS STATE
18:36:53 AND LOCALLY.
18:36:59 AND ONE OF THE RECURRENT THEMES FROM PARENTS, CAN MY
18:37:02 CHILD CONTINUE IN YOUR PROGRAM.
18:37:04 UNFORTUNATELY PROGRAM COMPLAINTS AND FACILITY CAPACITY
18:37:07 LIMITS, OUR RESPONSE IS APPROXIMATELY NOT.
18:37:09 THE HOPE THAT THESE FAMILIES NEED AND SERVICES THAT
18:37:13 WILL ENSURE THEIR SUCCESS REQUIRE NOT ONLY A
18:37:16 COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, BUT ALSO A CONTINUUM OF CARE.
18:37:21 THIS PROJECT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS GOING TO ALLOW A
18:37:25 COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND CONTINUAL CARE.
18:37:29 WE DON'T WANT TO DROP OFF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE BUT ENSURE
18:37:31 THEIR SUCCESS THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.
18:37:36 AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THIS IS CENTRALLY LOCATED AND
18:37:39 HISTORICALLY DEPRIVED OF SERVICES THAT THESE FAMILIES
18:37:40 NEED TO SURVIVE.
18:37:44 I AM ASKING THAT YOU DON'T SIMPLY APPROVE THIS PROJECT
18:37:46 FOR THIS ORGANIZATION, BUT I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS
18:37:49 PROJECT FOR THE MOMS, SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE ONE THAT I
18:37:52 SHARED THIS QUOTE ABOUT.
18:37:55 SO THAT WE CAN EXPAND AND REACH ONE MORE CHILD AND
18:37:58 FAMILY THAT SO DESPERATELY NEED OUR HELP.
18:38:00 THANK YOU.
18:38:04 >> GOOD EVENING, STEWART COUNTER, 1202 OXFORD DRIVE,
18:38:06 33549.
18:38:09 I AM READING A LETTER ON THE BEHALF OF PASTOR KEN
18:38:12 WHITTEN TO THE HONORABLE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
18:38:15 BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT THAT COULD
18:38:19 NOT BE BROKEN, I AM SORRY I CANNOT BE HERE IN PERSON TO
18:38:21 THANK EACH OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO WITH THE CITY EVERY
18:38:24 DAY AND TO WITNESS WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BE A HISTORICAL
18:38:28 VOTE TO CARE FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN SULPHUR
18:38:29 SPRINGS AREA AND BEYOND.
18:38:32 IF I MAY, LET ME GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT TO THIS VISION.
18:38:36 IN 2012, AID PERSONAL MEETING WITH MAYOR BOB BUCKHORN
18:38:38 AND ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION.
18:38:41 IF YOU COULD RELEASE AN ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS TO GO
18:38:46 ANYWHERE IN THIS CITY TO HELP REDUCE CRIME, STOP HUMAN
18:38:50 TRAFFICKING AND ASSIST PUBLIC SCHOOLS WITH MENTORS,
18:38:52 MODEL FAMILIES AND BE A CATALYST FOR CHANGE
18:38:56 ECONOMICALLY, EDUCATIONALLY, MEDICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY,
18:38:59 WHERE WOULD YOU SEND THAT ARMY?
18:39:02 WITHOUT STAMMER, STUTTER AND EQUIVOCATION.
18:39:05 HE RESPONDED WITH TWO WORDS "SULPHUR SPRINGS."
18:39:10 WE BROUGHT THE SITE TO YOUR ZONING, PLANNING COMMISSION
18:39:15 STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD MET AND REVIEWED
18:39:20 AND APPROVED THE REGULATIONS PROVIDED BY YOU.
18:39:24 IN 1995 CREATED THE ORGANIZATION CALLED HOPESTREET.
18:39:28 SIX YEAR WE PROMISED WHAT WE PROMISED THE MAYOR TO DO.
18:39:31 WE HAVE SEEN CRIME REDUCED BY 46% AND ASSISTED HUNDREDS
18:39:33 OF FAMILIES IN THE INNER CITY.
18:39:35 LAST YEAR WE PARTNERED WITH ONE OF THE GREATEST
18:39:39 ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTRY, ONE MORE CHILD, WHO HAS
18:39:42 BEEN SERVING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN LAKELAND AND
18:39:44 TAMPA SINCE 1904.
18:39:47 I KNOW YOU HAVE A RECORD OF ALL THE TESTIMONIES AND
18:39:50 LIGHT CHANGE STORIES WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE PAST
18:39:51 SIX YEARS.
18:39:53 IN THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING OFF
18:39:55 THIS ASKED US TO DO.
18:39:59 FROM REDESIGNING THE CAMPUS TO ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES TO
18:40:03 STUDYING TRAFFIC FLOW, AS WELL AS WORKING CLOSELY WITH
18:40:05 CITY OFFICIALS AND NEIGHBORS.
18:40:08 IT IS ALWAYS BEEN OUR HEART TO BE THE BEST PARTNER TO
18:40:11 WORK TOGETHER TO PENETRATE DARKNESS OF HUNGER,
18:40:16 LITERACY, VIOLENCE AND TO HAVE YIELDED BROKEN HOMES AND
18:40:20 BROKEN HEARTS IN THE MANY COMMUNITY.
18:40:23 MY ASK TONIGHT IS YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS REFERENDUM WITH
18:40:27 A VOTE TO SAY, LET'S PARTNER WITH THE CITY WITH ONE
18:40:29 MORE CHILD HOPESTREET AND SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR
18:40:32 CHILDREN AND FAMILY THAT'S HOPE IS ON THE WAY, BECAUSE
18:40:34 HOPE HAS COME OUR WAY.
18:40:37 CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT OUR FUTURE
18:40:38 BUT OUR TODAY.
18:40:44 WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THEM YESTERDAY BUT WE
18:40:46 CAN BE THERE TODAY AND TOMORROW.
18:40:49 YOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTE TONIGHT TELLS THEM WE ARE AWARE
18:40:54 AND WE CARE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
18:40:58 PASTOR KEN WHITTEN, IDLEWILD CHURCH AND HOPESTREET
18:40:59 FOUNDER.
18:41:02 >> SO TO WRAP UP MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
18:41:07 THIS IS A GREAT GROUP WITH A GREAT MISSION WITH A GREAT
18:41:08 LOCATION.
18:41:09 AND WE HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.
18:41:11 THANK YOU.
18:41:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:41:13 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
18:41:16 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:41:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
18:41:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:41:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR
18:41:28 WITH THAT AREA BUT I KNOW IT WITH THE BACK OF MY HAND,
18:41:31 AND A PORTION OF THAT COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH DOES HAVE
18:41:34 SOME CHALLENGES, BUT THE PORTION TO THE EAST, WHICH I
18:41:39 KNOW IT AS WOODLAND TERRACE, GROVE, THEY DON'T HAVE AS
18:41:41 MANY CHALLENGES AS MAYBE THE NORTHERN PORTION OF
18:41:43 SULPHUR SPRINGS.
18:41:47 AND TO BE HONEST I DON'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE FROM THIS
18:41:48 PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
18:41:51 I SEE PEOPLE IN SUPPORT BUT NOT PEOPLE FROM THAT
18:41:52 COMMUNITY THAT ARE HERE WHEN I LOOK IN THE AUDIENCE
18:41:55 BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND MOST OF
18:41:56 THEM KNOW ME.
18:41:57 BUT I KNOW THAT AREA.
18:42:01 I GUESS MY CONCERNS -- THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN INDUSTRIAL
18:42:05 AREA DOWN IN ROWLETT PARK DRIVE.
18:42:07 STRONGLY STILL HAVE AREA.
18:42:12 FROM KIMCO, FROM THE CAR WASH, FROM THE -- THE BRICK --
18:42:15 THE BRICKS, THE WELDERS.
18:42:18 THERE ARE A LOT OF -- HEAVY COMMERCIAL THINGS -- AND I
18:42:21 JUST GOT SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHEMICAL PLANTS AND TO
18:42:21 FORTH.
18:42:24 AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE HAD -- IF THE STUDIES HAVE
18:42:25 BEEN DONE.
18:42:28 I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT LAST COUNCIL, SO I DON'T KNOW.
18:42:30 BUT I HAVE GOT SOME CONCERNS WITH REFERENCE TO THAT
18:42:35 AREA WHICH IS, TO ME, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND TO CHANGE
18:42:40 THAT TO RELATION, I HAVE GOT TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT.
18:42:42 I JUST HAVE SOME DEEP CONCERNS KNOWING I HAVE A TECO
18:42:44 PLANT ACROSS THE STREET.
18:42:48 ANOTHER STILL HAVE BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF ROWLETT
18:42:51 AND SLIGH, AND TO TALK ABOUT PUTTING CHILDREN ON THAT
18:42:58 TRIP OF ROADWAY ON RO WLETT AND HAVING A SMALL PORTION
18:43:00 OF RESIDENTIAL.
18:43:03 I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT USE IS GOING TO
18:43:04 COME INTO PLAY.
18:43:04 I LOVE THE CHURCH.
18:43:07 MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBERS KNOW I DO A LOT WITH OUR
18:43:08 YOUNG PEOPLE.
18:43:10 I HAVE SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
18:43:13 SO I UNDERSTAND DEALING WITH HOMELESSNESS, DEALING WITH
18:43:17 SINGLE-FAMILY MOTHERS, BUT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS AT THIS
18:43:18 TIME.
18:43:20 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:43:22 >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT?
18:43:24 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER OR RESPOND, I HAVE
18:43:27 NO PROBLEM.
18:43:28 YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU ARE RIGHT.
18:43:32 WE WILL HOLD OUT ON REBUTTAL.
18:43:36 YES, SIR?
18:43:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH REGARDS
18:43:41 TO -- WE ARE HEARING DETAIL.
18:43:45 AND DETAIL IS NOT USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH JUST A PLAN
18:43:45 AMENDMENT.
18:43:50 I AM WONDERING, I WOULD RECALL IN THE PAST, SOMETIMES
18:43:53 WE WOULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT
18:43:55 AND THE REZONING.
18:43:59 AND THEN -- AND THEN AT LEAST BE SORT OF COMPREHENSIVE,
18:44:02 AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE -- I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW
18:44:04 WE WOULD DO IT.
18:44:09 BUT I AM A LITTLE VAKLEMPTED AS THEY SAY.
18:44:13 >> AS THE OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, I KNOW THIS
18:44:17 COUNCIL HAS HANDLED THESE TYPE OF HEARINGS DEPENDING ON
18:44:18 COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
18:44:22 I THINK THE CONCERN OF OPENING BOTH ITEMS 12 AND 13 AT
18:44:24 THE SAME TIME AND HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION
18:44:27 IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PORTION OF THE
18:44:29 HEARING IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION AND THE STANDARD OF
18:44:30 REVIEW IS DIFFERENT.
18:44:31 THE DISCUSSION IS DIFFERENT.
18:44:34 AND THE BASIS FOR YOUR DECISION IS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN
18:44:37 YOU ARE LOOKING AT A PD SITE PLAN WHICH IS A
18:44:40 QUASIJUDICIAL DECISION.
18:44:43 OFTENTIMES WHEN I HAVE BEEN IN HEARINGS WHERE BOTH
18:44:46 ITEMS ARE OPENED TOGETHER, IT SEEMED -- I AM NOT SAYING
18:44:48 THIS JURISDICTION.
18:44:50 I AM NEW TO THIS CITY, AGAIN.
18:44:52 I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS, I FOUND
18:44:55 AT TIMES THAT COMMISSIONERS WERE MAKING A DECISION ON A
18:44:59 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT BUT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE
18:45:03 VERY SITE-SPECIFIC ISSUES AND THE PD SITE PLAN.
18:45:06 THAT DECISION IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
18:45:08 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BOTH DISCUSSED AT THE SAME
18:45:12 TIME, I WOULD ASK THAT WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION, THAT
18:45:15 YOU VERY CLEARLY SEPARATE OUT THE MOTIONS AND RECOGNIZE
18:45:18 THAT ONE IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION AND WHAT THE
18:45:20 STANDARD OF REVIEW IS FOR THAT AND THE OTHER BEING A
18:45:26 QUASIJUDICIAL DECISION AND A STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE
18:45:27 PD SITE PLAN.
18:45:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PLAN.
18:45:31 BECAUSE I AM HEARING THE KIND OF DETAIL ASSOCIATED WITH
18:45:33 THE REZONING.
18:45:36 AND SO IF WE ARE GOING TO BE HEARING IT, WE MIGHT AS
18:45:40 WELL RECOGNIZE THAT AND JUST DEAL WITH IT.
18:45:42 >> I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY --
18:45:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT SEPARATE, WE
18:45:49 OUGHT TO BE IN A VAGUE GENERALITY OF A PLAN AMENDMENT.
18:45:50 BUT WE ARE NOT.
18:45:53 >> WE WERE CAUTIONING TO MR. PRESSMAN TO KEEP HIS
18:45:55 PRESENTATION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PORTION OF THIS ITEM.
18:45:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT BLAMING TODD OR MR.
18:46:01 PRESSMAN AT ALL, BUT JUST SEEMS THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE
18:46:02 HEADED.
18:46:03 THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
18:46:06 BETWEEN YOU AND MR. SHELBY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE
18:46:07 BEST PLACE TO GO.
18:46:10 >> MISS WELLS, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CLERK, PUT YOUR
18:46:10 NAME ON THE RECORD.
18:46:12 >> I THOUGHT I DID.
18:46:17 CATE WELLS, OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
18:46:19 >> AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AND
18:46:21 DISCUSS IT WITH MR. PRESSMAN.
18:46:25 AND THE CONCERN WAS BASED ON HIS PREVIOUS POSTURE WITH
18:46:31 REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND DETERMINING PARTIES WHO
18:46:34 MAY BE IN SUPPORT AND MAY BE ADVERSE FROM -- FROM A
18:46:37 POTENTIAL LITIGATION STANDPOINT.
18:46:42 WHEN YOU HAVE THESE TWO HEARD TOGETHER, AND IF COUNCIL
18:46:47 IS NOT EXCEPTIONALLY CAUTIOUS, THEN SHOULD CORRECT
18:46:48 ISSUES IN THE RECORD.
18:46:52 IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO DO THAT, CERTAINLY ITS
18:46:53 PREROGATIVE.
18:46:56 BEST PRACTICES WOULD BE IN AN IDEAL SITUATION AND
18:47:00 UNDERSTAND THEY DO OVERLAP AND SOMETIMES IT DOES MAKE A
18:47:02 DIFFERENCE, BUT IN TERMS OF RENDERING YOUR DECISION IT
18:47:06 HAS TO BE PREDICATED ON THE EXACT CRITERIA TO DETERMINE
18:47:08 EACH SEPARATE MATTER.
18:47:13 SO IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AS TO WISH YOU -- HOW YOU
18:47:14 WISH TO PROCEED.
18:47:18 YOU MAY WISH TO -- IT MAY BE MORE EXPEDITIOUS TO -- FOR
18:47:21 THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC COMMENT -- AND THAT IS ANOTHER
18:47:25 ISSUE, BUT WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT IS TAKEN WHICH CRITERIA
18:47:28 ARE THEY MAKING REFERENCE TO?
18:47:31 WOULD CRITERIA WOULD THAT APPLY?
18:47:33 IT IS COUNSEL'S CHOICE IN CASE HOW THEY WANT TO
18:47:34 PROCEED.
18:47:37 >> MR. SHELBY, I KNOW WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE AND
18:47:41 THERE WAS A CONCERN ON THE NONQUASIJUDICIAL AND THE
18:47:43 QUASIJUDICIAL ISSUE.
18:47:50 NUMBER ONE IF WE PROCEED TO MERGE THE TWO WHAT IT FOR
18:47:55 MR. PRESSMAN FOR MERGING THE TIME AND PUBLIC -- HOPING
18:48:00 THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD COMPLY WITH BEING EFFICIENT AND
18:48:02 NOT REPETITIVE.
18:48:06 >> THE ANSWER TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION IS YOU CAN LIMIT
18:48:11 THAT AND ASK THEM TO NOT BE REPETITIVE AND ASK THEM AS
18:48:15 A MATTER OF THE RECORD TO INCORPORATE THE COMMENT FROM
18:48:18 THE FIRST HEARING INTO PART OF THE SECOND AND TAKE THAT
18:48:20 INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION.
18:48:22 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THE FIRST ONE?
18:48:24 >> THE FIRST ONE.
18:48:27 >>LUIS VIERA: IF WE DECIDE TO MERGE, FULL, AT THIS
18:48:30 TIME -- BECAUSE WE KIND OF -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
18:48:31 POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
18:48:34 IT IS KIND OF OBVIOUS THAT WE ARE IGNORING NOW.
18:48:36 WE ARE FLIRTING WITH THE MERGER.
18:48:39 IT WE GO FULL SPEED, WHAT IS THE CURE FOR MR. PRESSMAN.
18:48:42 DOES HE GET ADDITIONAL TIME TO --
18:48:45 >> PRESENTLY RIGHT NOW HE GETS ADDITIONAL TIME.
18:48:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS WHAT I WOULD THINK.
18:48:49 I WOULD THINK THAT.
18:48:52 >> ABSOLUTELY WITH NO PENALTY.
18:48:54 >> I THINK GIVEN THAT MR. PRESSMAN'S PRESENTATION WAS
18:48:58 CUT OFF AT A POINT WHEN HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE
18:49:01 REZONING SPECIFIC ISSUES, THAT ADDITIONAL TIME WOULD BE
18:49:05 APPROPRIATE IF COUNCIL WISHES TO MERGE THE TWO
18:49:05 HEARINGS.
18:49:09 I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EQUITABLE SOLUTION.
18:49:12 I WOULD DEFER TO HIM AND COUNCIL AS TO HOW MUCH TIME
18:49:13 THAT WOULD BE.
18:49:15 >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASURE OF COUNCIL WITH REGARDS.
18:49:20 I AM PERFECTLY FINE -- DO WE NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC
18:49:21 COMMENT ON THE MERGER ISSUE?
18:49:23 I WOULD THINK NOT.
18:49:25 >> NOT -- THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
18:49:28 BUT YOU HAVE TO ADVISE THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT DIRECTION
18:49:29 COUNCIL IS ASKING.
18:49:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
18:49:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PERHAPS OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF
18:49:34 CAUTION.
18:49:36 MAKE SURE MR. PRESSMAN HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE MERGER
18:49:42 NOTION JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE.
18:49:45 >> I PREFER THE MERGER AS LONG AS I HAVE TIME TO GO
18:49:50 BACK AND REVIEW THE REZONING PLANS.
18:49:52 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:49:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I VIEW THIS THING, IF NUMBER 12
18:49:56 FAILS, THERE IS NO NUMBER 13.
18:49:59 SO WHAT ARE WE ARGUE WILLING ABOUT?
18:50:03 CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN IT TO ME?
18:50:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY POINT, CHARLIE --
18:50:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
18:50:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO HEAR THE INFORMATION.
18:50:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HEARD RIGHT SOME VARIATION IN
18:50:15 BOTH AREAS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AT THE END OF
18:50:18 THE DAY, WHEN YOU TAKE A VOTE, IF YOU SAY -- YOU KNOW
18:50:23 THE TRAIN LEAVE AT 11:00 AND YOU GET THERE 11:30, WHAT
18:50:24 IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU.
18:50:26 YOU AIN'T GOING TO GET ON THE TRAIN.
18:50:30 SAME THING.
18:50:33 IF 12 -- 13 HAS NO SHOT.
18:50:34 THAT IS MY VIEW.
18:50:36 I MAY BE WRONG.
18:50:38 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL TELL YOU MY VIEW.
18:50:40 I AM PERSONALLY FINE WITH A MERGER.
18:50:42 I THINK IT WILL GIVE US THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE
18:50:47 WOULD HAVE, AND IT WOULD JUST MAKE THINGS MORE MERGED,
18:50:48 I GUESS WITH REGARD --
18:50:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE AND THEN I
18:50:51 WILL FINISH.
18:50:54 IN THIS CASE WE HAVE DONE BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME
18:50:57 AND YOU SAID IN THE MEETING TWO THAT ARE BEING
18:50:58 COMBINED.
18:51:01 BUT YOU ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND YOU GOT 15 MINUTES IN THE
18:51:02 REBUTTAL.
18:51:04 THAT IS HOW IT WAS IN THE PAST.
18:51:08 IF YOU ALL WANT TO CHANGE THAT AND HAVE 12 GO FIRST AND
18:51:12 15 MINUTES, REBUTTAL AND 13 GO SECOND AND THE SAME
18:51:12 THING.
18:51:16 YOU EXTENDED THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME BOTH ARE GOING TO
18:51:19 BE -- GUESS WHAT -- HUMAN LIFE, IT WILL BE THE SAME.
18:51:23 THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
18:51:23 YOU.
18:51:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
18:51:26 YES, SIR?
18:51:29 >> WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
18:51:31 >> I AM FINE WITH PROCEEDING WITH THE MERGER.
18:51:37 CITY COUNCIL OR ANYONE ELSE WISH TO CHIME IN?
18:51:41 >>LUIS VIERA: SO WHAT WE ARE --
18:51:44 >> EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM SORRY.
18:51:47 NOT THAT I WANT TO COMPLICATE MATTERS, BUT MR.
18:51:53 MICHELINI APPROACHED ME AS AN OBJECTION -- OF SOMEBODY
18:51:55 WHO REPRESENTS -- WITHOUT KNOWING FULLY REPRESENTS A
18:51:59 PARTY OR SOMEBODY WHO IS WITHIN THE NOTICED AREA.
18:52:01 >> YES, SIR, HERE IS MY CONCERN.
18:52:03 >>LUIS VIERA: STATE YOUR NAME.
18:52:05 >> STEVE MICHELINI.
18:52:10 I REPRESENT THEO CHEM, AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
18:52:12 IF YOU MISS THE RESIDENTIAL THE LAND USE QUESTION WITH
18:52:14 A LARGER QUESTION WHICH IS THE -- THE ADDITIONAL
18:52:17 PORTION OF THE SITE, YOU -- YOU HAVE NOW COMPLICATED
18:52:21 THE RESIDENTIAL ISSUE WHICH SHOULD BE STANDING ALONE.
18:52:27 THAT SHOULD NEVER BE CO-MINGLED WITH -- WITH THE STILL
18:52:30 HAVE PART PROPERTY THAT THEY PLAN THE WAREHOUSE IN AND
18:52:31 THOSE OTHER COMPONENTS.
18:52:33 WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT
18:52:38 STANDING ON ITS OWN AS A LAND USE AMENDMENT AND WHETHER
18:52:41 OR NOT IT IS WARRANTED AND NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE
18:52:44 WAREHOUSE AND THE OTHER OUTSIDE SERVICES SEEM TO BE
18:52:45 BENEFITTING FROM THAT.
18:52:48 THIS IS STRICTLY A LAND USE QUESTION THAT INVOLVES
18:52:52 SHOULD YOU OR SHOULD YOU NOT CONVERT LIGHT STILL HAVE
18:52:57 TO A RESIDENTIAL ALLOWABLE LAND USE COMPONENT.
18:53:01 I WOULD ARGUE WITH YOU, PLEASE DO NOT COMINGLE THESE
18:53:04 BECAUSE THEN YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLE SAYING I LIKE IN
18:53:07 PROGRAM AND I LIKE THIS, BUT IT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO THE
18:53:11 RESIDENTIAL ISSUE WHICH IS THE LAND USE CONCERNS.
18:53:14 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING I WILL SAY AND MR. SHELBY I
18:53:16 WILL DEFER TO YOU IN THIS REGARD.
18:53:19 HERE WE HAVE A POTENTIAL -- A PARTY MAKING AN OBJECTION
18:53:23 WHICH MAY VERY WELL, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME RELEVANCY IN
18:53:24 THE FUTURE.
18:53:25 YOUR THOUGHTS?
18:53:28 >> I CONTEMPLATED THAT WHEN IT CAME BEFORE THE PREVIOUS
18:53:30 COUNCIL AND THAT IS WHY IT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION AND I
18:53:34 DISCUSSED THIS WITH MISS WELLS, THAT IN ABUNDANCE OF
18:53:38 CAUTION FOR AN AVOIDANCE OF PUTTING THE CITY IN LEGAL
18:53:41 JEOPARDY WHEN IT COULD BE EASILY AVOIDED WITH AN OUNCE
18:53:45 OF PROCEDURE THAT WE TAKE THE MORE PRUDENT APPROACH,
18:53:49 CAUTIOUS APPROACH GIVEN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE ARE
18:53:52 FACING.
18:53:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THE OUNCE OF PROCEDURE TO KEEP THEM
18:53:54 SEPARATED?
18:53:58 >> MY RECOMMENDATION IN LIGHT OF THE OBJECTION ON THE
18:53:59 RECORD.
18:54:00 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:54:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM FINE WITH THAT.
18:54:05 I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT WE NEED TO BE SURE.
18:54:09 AND MR. -- MR. PRESSMAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
18:54:13 WE NEED -- WE JUST NEED TO KEEP THE RECORD.
18:54:15 IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE AMENDMENT, LET'S
18:54:18 TALK ABOUT THAT AND NOT GET INTO THE WHOLE WAREHOUSE
18:54:20 AND OTHER ISSUES.
18:54:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SAY WHENEVER IT COMES TO PUBLIC
18:54:25 COMMENT.
18:54:31 WE GIVE YOU LIBERALITY AND DIRECT WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
18:54:35 THE ISSUES WE ARE CONSIDERING AND THE ISSUE THAT'S WILL
18:54:39 BE RELEVANT SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
18:54:40 >> YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.
18:54:43 AND IF COUNCIL -- OF COURSE, THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT
18:54:47 AND BEING AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND LEGISLATIVE MANNER.
18:54:50 PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, ARE REGARD TO WHAT
18:54:53 COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO DELIBERATE UPON AND BASE ITS
18:54:54 DECISION.
18:54:57 THAT MAY BE A POSITION OF HAVING TO DISREGARD THE
18:55:00 THINGS THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION.
18:55:03 >>LUIS VIERA: EXACTLY.
18:55:06 >> CATE WELLS, OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
18:55:08 SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE PROCEEDING WITH THE LAND USE
18:55:11 AMENDMENT ONLY AND I THINK FOR CLARITY FOR THOSE IN THE
18:55:14 AUDIENCE THAT MAY WISH TO ADDRESS THIS AS PART OF
18:55:15 PUBLIC COMMENT.
18:55:19 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S
18:55:21 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHETHER THE REQUESTED LAND USE
18:55:25 CATEGORY IN THIS -- IN THIS CASE, THE RESIDENTIAL 10
18:55:28 MEETS THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL CHARACTER DESCRIPTION
18:55:31 OF THE CITY FORM COMPONENT IN WHICH IT IS BEING
18:55:34 REQUESTED AND IS OTHERWISE CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:55:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:55:36 SO THE FOCUS REALLY NEEDS TO BE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE
18:55:39 PLAN AND WHETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT
18:55:40 WITH IT.
18:55:42 THANK YOU.
18:55:46 >> AGAIN, COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT QUASIJUDICIAL
18:55:48 AND LEGISLATIVE.
18:55:52 THE STANDARD IS DEBATABLE WITH DEFERENCE GIVEN TO THE
18:55:54 BOARD AND NOT RELYING ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
18:55:56 EVIDENCE.
18:55:56 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
18:55:59 ANY FURTHER -- BEING THAT WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH
18:56:02 PUBLIC COMMENT AND UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY FURTHER
18:56:04 QUESTIONS.
18:56:08 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING SO PATIENTLY.
18:56:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN INTEREST OF TIME, IF WE HAVE PUBLIC
18:56:13 SPEAKERS, COUNCIL MAY I ASK THAT THEY FIRST STATE THEIR
18:56:17 NAME, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, GIVE
18:56:21 THEIR ADDRESS, AND ALSO IF THEY ARE A RESIDENT OF TAMPA
18:56:23 OR NOT.
18:56:26 AM I ALLOWED TO ASK THAT?
18:56:29 BECAUSE 4203 ELM STREET COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THIS
18:56:33 NATION.
18:56:35 WILL ZIP CODES SUFFICE?
18:56:38 >> YOU COULD ASK THEM WHERE THEY LIVE IN RELATION TO
18:56:39 THE CITY.
18:56:41 BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GIVE THEIR
18:56:43 SPECIFIC ADDRESS.
18:56:48 YOU CAN INQUIRE, YOU CAN ASK THEM TO DO TO WHERE THEY
18:56:50 ARE IN RELATION TO THE PROPERTY.
18:56:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:56:54 I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM.
18:56:57 >> WITH REGARD TO THE REQUEST THAT THEY CONFIRM -- IT
18:56:58 IS SWORN TESTIMONY.
18:57:00 THAT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR A LEGISLATIVE DECISION.
18:57:04 THAT IS LIMITED TO QUASIJUDICIAL DECISIONS.
18:57:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:57:08 MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION OF MR. PRESSMAN.
18:57:14 SORRY TO BRING YOU ALL THE WAY BACK UP HERE.
18:57:15 >> YES, SIR?
18:57:18 >> IN THIS GENERAL AREA OF STILL HAVE AREA WITH THE
18:57:22 ELECTION YOU ARE ASKING FOR, HOW MUCH OF A LOSS IN
18:57:25 STILL HAVE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE RATIO IN THIS
18:57:27 GENERAL STILL HAVE AREA.
18:57:29 DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OFF HAND?
18:57:32 >> ON THIS PROPERTY.
18:57:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
18:57:38 >> THE BEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE THAT YOU I WOULD KNOW IS
18:57:41 16.8 ACRES IS ON THIS PROPERTY.
18:57:43 WE ARE ONLY REQUESTING 3.7.
18:57:46 THAT IS THE QUESTION YOU ARE ASKING, SIR?
18:57:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ACTUALLY I AM ASKING THE WHOLE
18:57:53 INDUSTRIAL AREA THERE IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY.
18:57:55 I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO TELL ME WHAT HAS BEEN
18:57:59 REQUESTED PRIOR AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IS TODAY.
18:58:04 >> THAT MIGHT BE A PLANNING QUESTION, MR. CITRO.
18:58:05 SCYTHE PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
18:58:07 >> SORRY, JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:58:11 I DID CALCULATE THIS BEFORE THE HEARING AND IF MY
18:58:15 MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, 165 ACRES OF LIGHT
18:58:19 INDUSTRIAL LAND WITHIN THIS GENERAL VICINITY THAT YOU
18:58:22 COULD SEE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND 3.7 OF THAT
18:58:26 WOULD BE REMOVED AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
18:58:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. PRESSMAN.
18:58:32 >> IF I MAY -- WITH LIBERTY, IF I MAY, BOTH THE
18:58:33 PLANNING COMMISSION -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION
18:58:37 INDICATES TO YOU THIS IS A MIXED AREA OF RESIDENTIAL
18:58:37 AND INDUSTRIAL.
18:58:38 THANK YOU.
18:58:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
18:58:42 ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE
18:58:43 PUBLIC?
18:58:48 ONE THING ON COUNCILMAN CITRO'S REQUEST ON RESIDENCY.
18:58:51 DOES THAT IMPLICATE ANY LEGAL ISSUES FOR APPEALS OR
18:58:55 ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE JUST OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE.
18:58:57 >> I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY.
18:58:59 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD THINK NOT.
18:59:02 >> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THAT WOULD BE THE
18:59:05 CASE, BUT, AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY FOR WHATEVER REASON,
18:59:08 MAYBE THERE IS A LEGAL REASON THAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT
18:59:10 TO DISCLOSE THEIR EXACT ADDRESS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE IT
18:59:13 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY IF THAT IS THE CASE.
18:59:21 THAT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE UNLESS COUNCIL EX-INSISTS.
18:59:25 >> IF 12 DOES NOT PASS, THEN 13 IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN,
18:59:31 IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT?
18:59:34 >> LEGALLY, THAT -- THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY THE CASE.
18:59:38 WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE TO THE PETITIONER TO NUMBER --
18:59:41 DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS TO NUMBER 12, I DON'T KNOW
18:59:43 WHAT ALL THE OPTIONS ARE.
18:59:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANT TO BE FAIR --
18:59:48 >> WHAT THEIR VOICES CAN BE WITH NUMBER.
18:59:53 >> THE APPLICATION FOR PD REZONING IS CONSISTENT UPON
18:59:54 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
18:59:58 SO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING
19:00:01 AT A REZONING THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:00:03 UNDERLYING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:00:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAN.
19:00:07 NEXT AND COUNCILMAN -- NEXT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH
19:00:08 PUBLIC COMMENT.
19:00:12 JUST SO WE GET AN IDEA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU
19:00:14 PLAN ON SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 12.
19:00:15 OKAY.
19:00:18 IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 12
19:00:21 PLEASE STAND IF YOU COULD, LINE YOURSELF UP AGAINST
19:00:23 WHICHEVER WALL WOULD YOU LIKE.
19:00:24 AND LET THE FIRST ONE GO FORWARD.
19:00:27 AND IF YOU COULD, PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND
19:00:31 PURSUANT TO THE REQUEST JUST THE GENERAL AREA IN WHICH
19:00:31 YOU LIVE.
19:00:35 GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:00:37 >> CORNELIUS PATE.
19:00:38 JUST A RESIDENT.
19:00:40 BORN AND RAISED NATIVE OF TAMPA.
19:00:43 ME AND MY WIFE.
19:00:47 THAT PROPERTY THAT -- THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO, I GOT
19:00:50 MARRIED -- I LIVED ON THE STREET 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I
19:00:51 GOT MARRIED.
19:00:56 GOING ON OUR 31ST ANNIVERSARY, ME AND MY WIFE.
19:01:01 THERE WERE JUNK TIRES, BUSH, TREES.
19:01:02 IT WAS.
19:01:05 IT WAS A DUMPING AREA.
19:01:07 30 YEARS LATER GUESS WHAT IT IS, DUMP, TIRES,
19:01:08 EVERYTHING.
19:01:11 THERE WAS NO CONCERN FOR THIS PROPERTY UNTIL HOPESTREET
19:01:15 CAME IN AND PURCHASED IT AND CLEANED IT UP.
19:01:19 I WISH YOU WERE HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, 75% OF THE
19:01:22 AUDIENCE WAS AFRICAN-AMERICAN DURING THE FIRST MEETING.
19:01:23 I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE.
19:01:25 MR. REDDICK WAS HERE.
19:01:27 THEY WERE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HERE IN SUPPORT OF HOPE
19:01:30 STREET DURING THE FIRST MEETING.
19:01:33 MOST OF US WERE TOLD NOT -- WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO
19:01:37 THIS MEETING AND THAT IS THE REASON YOU DON'T SEE
19:01:39 REPRESENTATIVES -- THIS AUDIENCE REPRESENTING THE
19:01:42 NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD NOT TO COME.
19:01:45 THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD
19:01:47 TRACKS.
19:01:50 SO EVEN THOUGH YOU MENTIONED SULPHUR SPRINGS.
19:01:53 SULPHUR SPRINGS STUDENTS TO SLIGH MIDDLE SCHOOL.
19:01:56 THEY GO TO FOSTER.
19:02:00 SO THIS IS PART -- THIS IS ALL WITHIN THE SAME AREA.
19:02:01 SLIGH IS A D SCHOOL.
19:02:03 I BELIEVE FOSTER IS AN F SCHOOL.
19:02:07 SO THIS -- THIS IS -- THIS IS STILL IN THE SAME AREA,
19:02:10 WHICH IS REALLY -- ON THE EAST SIDE.
19:02:14 9095, 99% AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
19:02:16 AND WHAT I AM AMAZED ABOUT IS YOU LOOK AT THIS AUDIENCE
19:02:22 NOW AND YOU SEE HOW MANY CAUCASIANS ARE WILLING TO COME
19:02:26 IN AND HELP THIS COMMUNITY IN THIS WAY.
19:02:28 DON'T DEPRIVE US OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.
19:02:31 DO NOT DEPRIVE -- I AM SPEAKING AS A BLACK
19:02:31 AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
19:02:39 DO NOT DEPRIVE THE BLACK FAMILY, BLACK KIDS OF THIS
19:02:41 TREMENDOUS FREE -- I MEAN NO CHARGE.
19:02:44 FREE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
19:02:45 DON'T DEPRIVE IT.
19:02:48 THIS IS NOT -- I DON'T -- THIS IS NOT REALLY A PART OF
19:02:50 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:02:53 THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE -- ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE
19:02:55 TRACKS.
19:02:58 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS ON THE WEST SIDE.
19:03:01 SO WHEN I LIVED ON THE EAST SIDE DOWN THE STREET 30
19:03:07 YEARS AGO, I WASN'T SOLICITED TO BE A PART OF SEMINOLE
19:03:09 HEIGHTS.
19:03:12 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT BUT ANYWAY, I HOPE
19:03:13 YOU APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT.
19:03:14 THANK YOU.
19:03:16 >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS.
19:03:17 THANK YOU.
19:03:18 NEXT, PLEASE.
19:03:21 >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS -- EXCUSE ME,
19:03:22 COUNCILMEN.
19:03:26 I MAKE THAT MISTAKE HONESTLY IN MY -- I AM APPROACHING
19:03:28 NEAR 20 YEARS IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
19:03:31 AND THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY I EVER HAD TO APPEAR
19:03:33 IN FRONT OF YOU.
19:03:37 I SAY THAT TO HELP PUT EMPHASIS ON THE IMPORTANCE I
19:03:39 BELIEVE THAT THIS SUBJECT MATTER IS.
19:03:44 HIS THE PLEASURE OF SERVING IN AN ADVISORY AND A BOARD
19:03:50 CAPACITY ON THIS ORGANIZATION SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
19:03:53 IT IS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION THAT JUST OCCURRED HERE
19:03:59 A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE
19:04:00 RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF IT.
19:04:03 THAT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE PHILOSOPHY TO THIS
19:04:05 ORGANIZATION.
19:04:09 IT'S TRYING TO FIND WHERE IS THE STARTING POINT ON A
19:04:12 CIRCLE WHEN YOU DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS.
19:04:17 IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND BUT THIS GROUP HAS
19:04:21 IDENTIFIED THE FAMILY AS THE CORNERSTONE OF EVERYTHING
19:04:22 ELSE THEY BUILD ON.
19:04:27 WHETHER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL -- GENERATIONAL
19:04:32 POVERTY, HUNGER, ILLITERACY, ANYTHING OF THESE THINGS,
19:04:34 IT STARTS WITH THE STRENGTHENING OF THE FAMILY.
19:04:36 AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
19:04:40 THIS IS ABOUT RELATIVELY TEMPORARY HOUSING, WHILE
19:04:44 FAMILIES ARE -- GO THROUGH A TRAINING PROGRAM UNDER
19:04:48 WHICH THEY BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND ABLE TO DEAL
19:04:50 WITH THE SITUATIONS.
19:04:53 BE THERE FORTIFYING THE UNDERPINNING OF THE COMMUNITY
19:04:56 ITSELF.
19:04:58 I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WHAT IS ALSO INTERESTING
19:05:02 IS THE PROXIMITY OF THESE THREE ACRES RELATIVE TO THE
19:05:04 EXISTING HOUSING THAT IS RIGHT THERE.
19:05:10 IT IS IN THE SOUTHERNMOST -- I BELIEVE SOUTHWESTERNMOST
19:05:12 POSITION OF THE PROPERTY.
19:05:13 AND PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.
19:05:16 AND WHAT IS ALSO SOMEWHAT IRONIC IS THAT AS I SAID THAT
19:05:22 IS THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS ORGANIZATION'S PROGRAM, IT
19:05:26 WAS POINTED OUT BY THIS COUNCIL THAT SHOULD THIS ONE
19:05:32 ELEMENT NOT GO FORWARD, THEN THE ENTIRE ISSUE IS MOOT.
19:05:36 SO IN FACT, THIS ISSUE IS IN FACT THE CORNERSTONE OF
19:05:39 WHETHER OR NOT THIS ORGANIZATION CONTINUES IN THIS
19:05:40 COMMUNITY OR NOT.
19:05:45 I ASK YOU TO -- TO GIVE A FAVORABLE VOTE IN THIS.
19:05:49 ONE AT A COURAGE OF LEADERSHIP AND TWO OUT OF YOUR
19:05:50 HUMILITY OF A REPRESENTATIVE.
19:05:52 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
19:05:55 >> SIR, PUT YOUR NAME PLEASE ON THE RECORD.
19:05:57 >> RICH READY, NORTHDALE.
19:05:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. READY.
19:06:01 WE APPRECIATE IT.
19:06:02 NEXT, PLEASE.
19:06:08 >> LEON BATTLE, 415 SYKES BOULEVARD LAKELAND, FLORIDA.
19:06:11 PRIOR TO LAKELAND, I LIVED IN TAMPA OFF NEBRASKA
19:06:12 AVENUE.
19:06:15 KNEW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO LIVE IN TOXIC ENVIRONMENTS.
19:06:17 TOXIC ENVIRONMENTS MEANING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND
19:06:18 VIOLENCE.
19:06:21 I GREW UP WITH A FATHER WHO WAS A CRACK ADDICT.
19:06:24 ME AND MY MOM MOVED AROUND QUITE A BIT.
19:06:27 WASN'T UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE SITUATION
19:06:29 WE WERE IN INTO A NEW SITUATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO
19:06:31 FIND PEACE AND WHOLENESS.
19:06:33 THAT IS WHAT ONE MORE CHILD DOES.
19:06:34 THEY TAKE FAMILIES.
19:06:37 BRING THEM TO A SECURE LOCATION.
19:06:40 PUT THEM THROUGH A YEAR PROGRAM TO GET TO
19:06:41 SELF-SUFFICIENCY.
19:06:44 ONE MORE CHILD MOVES FAMILIES FROM WHERE THEY ARE AT TO
19:06:46 MANY THEM HAVING THEIR FIRST HOME.
19:06:50 WE HAD A MOTHER RECENTLY WHO SAVED $14,000 THROUGH HER
19:06:51 ONE YEAR WITH US.
19:06:53 SHE WAS ABLE TO BUY HER FIRST HOME.
19:06:56 WENT FROM LIVING IN HER CAR TO HAVING HER FIRST HOME.
19:06:59 I SINCERELY BELIEVE IN THIS PROGRAM.
19:07:02 I BELIEVE WITH EVERY CHILD IS ONE CARING ADULT AWAY
19:07:04 FROM BEING A SUCCESS STORY.
19:07:06 I BELIEVE THAT TAMPA BAY IS A PLACE WE HAVE A LOT OF
19:07:08 CARING ADULTS.
19:07:10 THERE ARE GOING TO BE VOLUNTEERS THAT WILL POUR INTO
19:07:10 THESE CHILDREN.
19:07:15 FOR ME IT WAS WHEN BRAVE MAN CAME INTO MY LIFE AND
19:07:16 ENCOURAGED ME.
19:07:20 VICE PRESIDENT OF STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AT ONE MORE
19:07:24 CHILD AND I AM WORKING ON MY DOCTORATE AND BY THE GRACE
19:07:26 OF GOD AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ONE MORE CHILD AND CARING
19:07:29 PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS COMING INTO MY LIFE THAT I CAN
19:07:30 ACCOMPLISH WHAT I AM TODAY.
19:07:33 I STRONGLY, STRONGLY URGE TO YOU APPROVE THIS REZONINGS
19:07:36 SO WE CAN SEE THE BEST FOR OUR FAMILIES HERE IN TAMPA
19:07:36 BAY.
19:07:39 THANK YOU.
19:07:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:07:43 AND THANK YOU FOR TELLING YOUR STORY.
19:07:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:07:48 JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, TOTALLY COMPELLING STORY AND
19:07:52 I APPRECIATE IT AND DON'T MEAN TO DIMINISH -- BUT AGAIN
19:07:53 WE ARE BLURRING.
19:07:56 AND I THINK WE NEED TO URGE PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON THE PLAN
19:07:59 AMENDMENT AND NOT THE SPECIFIC USE.
19:08:03 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SAY, I THINK THAT IS MORE FOR
19:08:04 COUNCIL TO WEIGH.
19:08:07 THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE RELEVANCY OF SOME OF
19:08:11 THE MATTERS AHEAD, BUT YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
19:08:12 MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
19:08:16 >> SUSAN LONG, 921 PROCEED STREET, TAMPA.
19:08:17 CITY LIMITS.
19:08:20 EASTERN SIDE OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:08:23 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
19:08:25 I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
19:08:27 I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL IDEA.
19:08:29 AND WE DO NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
19:08:31 I HAVE ONE CONCERN.
19:08:35 MY CONCERN IS ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE SET UP A 50-FOOT
19:08:38 BUFFER FROM THEIR RESIDENTIAL TO THE INDUSTRIAL, THERE
19:08:41 IS NOTHING TO STOP THE KIDS FROM PLAYING IN THAT AREA,
19:08:42 RUNNING AROUND.
19:08:46 IF I LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL PLACES AND MY
19:08:49 KID GOT SICK -- BEAR IN MIND I HAVE BEEN A SINGLE
19:08:50 MOTHER FOR YEARS.
19:08:54 MY KIDS ARE GROWN AND I DON'T KNOW IF I QUALIFY UNDER
19:08:58 THAT STATEMENT ANYMORE BUT I RAISED THEM PRETTY MUCH BY
19:08:58 MYSELF.
19:09:02 I LIVED THERE WITH ONE OF MY CHILDREN AND ONE OF MY
19:09:04 CHILDREN CAME HOME AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG
19:09:06 WITH THEM AND I TOOK THEM TO THE PEDIATRICIAN AND THE
19:09:10 PEDIATRICIAN SAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH CHILD, THE
19:09:13 LUNGS ARE FULL WITH CRUD AND BLAH-BLAH-BLAH AND THE
19:09:16 INDUSTRIAL PLACE THAT'S SURROUND THIS PLACE
19:09:19 PRACTICALLY, I WOULD GO HOME AND SUE THE INDUSTRY THAT
19:09:22 CAUSED THAT DAMAGE, AND YET THE PROBLEM WASN'T THAT THE
19:09:24 INDUSTRY MOVED INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE PROBLEM
19:09:28 IS THAT THE RELATION MOVED INTO THE INDUSTRY AND THE
19:09:30 RESIDENTIAL PLACE, THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE FREE.
19:09:32 THEY WILL BE PERFECTLY FINE.
19:09:35 AND ME AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM WILL
19:09:38 DRIVE THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS.
19:09:45 NOW IN MY OPINION IF THE ORGANIZATION GAVE A HOLD
19:09:49 HARMLESS TO THE RESIDENTS -- TO INDUSTRIES OR -- I
19:09:51 DON'T KNOW WHATEVER -- YOU GUYS ARE LEGAL PEOPLE.
19:09:52 I AM NOT.
19:09:55 BUT IF THEY GAVE SOMETHING -- THE INDUSTRIALS THAT WERE
19:09:59 THERE BEFORE COULD NOT BE SUED FOR WHAT CAME AFTER,
19:10:01 THEN I WILL BE HAPPY.
19:10:03 THANK YOU.
19:10:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:10:07 NEXT, PLEASE.
19:10:13 >> HELLO, DARYL STARLING.
19:10:16 >> WHAT IS YOUR NAME AGAIN?
19:10:18 >> DARYL STARLING.
19:10:19 >> BALL PLAYER.
19:10:19 REALLY.
19:10:21 YOU LOOK GOOD TOO.
19:10:24 >> THAT YOU ARE, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
19:10:25 SO I WILL BE QUICK.
19:10:26 I WILL BE QUICK.
19:10:30 NICE TO SEE YOU, COACH O.
19:10:32 SO -- I WILL BE QUICK LIKE I SAID.
19:10:33 I AM FROM TAMPA.
19:10:35 I GREW UP IN WEST TAMPA.
19:10:39 I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
19:10:41 FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW SULPHUR SPRINGS.
19:10:43 WE CALL IT "THE SPRINGS."
19:10:46 IT IS KNOWN AS THE SPRINGS, AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE
19:10:49 STATISTICS THAT THE AREA NEEDS HELP.
19:10:52 I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT BEHIND REZONING AND THINGS OF
19:10:56 THAT NATURE, BUT FOR SOMEONE WHO SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN
19:10:58 SULPHUR SPRINGS AND I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY.
19:10:59 I STILL HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
19:11:02 I HAVE FRIENDS WHO DIED IN THAT COMMUNITY THROUGH SOME
19:11:05 OF THE STATISTICS THAT YOU GUYS WILL LOOK AT.
19:11:10 PLEASE DON'T HESITATE, PLEASE, TO REZONE AND HAVE ONE
19:11:11 MORE CHILD COME IN THERE.
19:11:15 ME, I AM AN INDIVIDUAL WHO A LOT OF PEOPLE GAVE UP ON.
19:11:16 OKAY.
19:11:19 I AM AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVER THREE PROGRAMS THAT ONE
19:11:22 MORE CHILD WILL BE BRINGING TO SULPHUR SPRINGS.
19:11:25 SO I WAS UNFORTUNATELY THROUGH SOME BAD DECISIONS THAT
19:11:31 I MADE, I WAS -- I HAD TO BE IN DJJ -- A DJJ PROGRAM
19:11:35 SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT KEITH OVERSEES, OKAY.
19:11:38 MY MOM TOOK ADVANTAGE OF OUR FAMILY'S -- THE FAMILY
19:11:41 SUPPORT PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THE FAMILY SUPPORT PROGRAM
19:11:43 THAT I OVERSEE IN LAKELAND.
19:11:47 SHE NEEDED CLOTHES FOR US, SHE NEEDED FOOD FOR US, AND
19:11:49 SHE NEEDED HELP FOR HER EDUCATION THROUGH THE GRACE OF
19:11:52 GOD SHE WAS ABLE TO GET HER AA BUT THROUGH AN
19:11:55 ORGANIZATION, A CHURCH ORGANIZATION THAT HELPED HER.
19:11:59 AND ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT I OVERSEE IN LAKELAND IS YOUTH
19:12:04 AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM CALLED KERN.
19:12:07 I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN TAMPA.
19:12:10 I UNDER STAND THE REZONING AND ALL THAT STUFF CAN POSE
19:12:14 AN ISSUE JUST LIKE THE LAST SPEAKER SAID AND RESPECT
19:12:17 HER CONCERN OF YOUTH PLAYING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND
19:12:21 THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND GETTING, YOU KNOW POISONED
19:12:23 OR, WHAT HAVE YOU.
19:12:26 BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE STRIVING TO -- TO DO.
19:12:28 THAT AREA HAS BEEN VETTED.
19:12:30 I BELIEVE IN THIS COMPANY.
19:12:31 I LOVE THIS COMPANY.
19:12:38 BECAUSE IT IS 180-DEGREE -- A 360 CIRCLE FOR ME TO COME
19:12:42 BACK INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR SERVICES DOCTOR POUR
19:12:44 RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY.
19:12:46 IF YOU ARE NOT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND HAVEN'T SPENT
19:12:48 TIME IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW THE
19:12:50 MAKE-UP OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE DESIRE THAT THE
19:12:53 COMMUNITY HAS FOR PROGRAMS LIKE ONE MORE CHILD.
19:12:55 SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
19:12:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:13:00 WE JUST SAW AGAIN THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THAT
19:13:05 COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS HAD.
19:13:21 >> I NEED A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
19:13:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE PROPOSE THAT HE FILL IT IS
19:13:25 OUT AFTERWARDS.
19:13:28 >> HOW MANY NAMES ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
19:13:29 >> JUST ONE.
19:13:32 >> WHOSE NAME IS THAT, THE NAME THE PERSON?
19:13:35 >> STEPHANIE THEOPOLIS.
19:13:41 YOU WILL SUBMIT THAT FORM FOR MR. MICHELINI?
19:13:46 >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THEO CHEM AND TEN OTHER
19:13:48 INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS THAT'S WILL BE IMPACTED BY A CHANGE
19:13:54 IN LAND USE FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
19:13:57 YOU AS A COUNCIL WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUTTING AN
19:14:00 INDUSTRIAL PARK IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THESE FOLKS
19:14:01 HAVE BEEN THERE.
19:14:03 THEY NEED TO BE PROTECTED.
19:14:07 THEO KIM ALONE HAS OVER $3.5 MILLION INVESTMENT IN
19:14:10 THEIR BUILDING AND IN THEIR EQUIPMENT AND IN THEIR
19:14:12 OPERATIONS.
19:14:15 YOU PUTTING THAT IN JEOPARDY.
19:14:17 THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES OF LAND IMMEDIATELY
19:14:21 TO THE NORTH SIDE.
19:14:30 AND THIS PROPERTY DOESN'T ABUT THE GOLF COURSE -- I AM
19:14:30 SORRY.
19:14:36 THEO KIM IS RIGHT HERE.
19:14:37 TECO IS RIGHT HERE.
19:14:41 32, ALMOST 33 ACRES.
19:14:43 THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE TRANSFORMERS.
19:14:44 THEY HAVE HEAVY TRUCKS.
19:14:47 THEY HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, AND RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THEY
19:14:51 ARE PROPOSING TO PUT A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
19:14:53 THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL USERS.
19:14:55 YOU ARE PUTTING ALL OF THEM IN JEOPARDY.
19:14:59 THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL PARK
19:15:00 PROPERTY.
19:15:04 AND SO WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS THAT ALL OF THESE
19:15:07 INDUSTRIAL USERS ARE ENDED UP GOING TO PASCO COUNTY OR
19:15:11 GOING TO POLK COUNTY, GOING RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTY
19:15:14 LINE BECAUSE THE CITY CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THEM ANYMORE.
19:15:19 OFF RESIDENTIAL SMALL STREET WITH HEAVY TRUCKS GO ON
19:15:21 THAT STREET.
19:15:25 WE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SINGLE MOMS WITH
19:15:26 CHILDREN.
19:15:28 WHY WOULD YOU PUT THEM INTO THE MIDDLE OF AN INDUSTRIAL
19:15:32 PARK THAT HAS A MAJOR CHEMICAL PLANT, THAT HAS
19:15:36 MANUFACTURING PLANTS FOR TRANSFORMERS, THAT HAS HEAVY
19:15:41 WELDING, HEAVY ASSEMBLY.
19:15:44 SOLAR -- SOLAR PANEL MANUFACTURERS.
19:15:49 HEAVY AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURING AND AUTOMOBILE MOTOR
19:15:52 REPAIRS AND MACHINERY.
19:15:55 THE REAL ISSUE IS, DOES A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT BELONG
19:15:57 IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK?
19:16:00 THE ANSWER IS, NO, IT DOESN'T.
19:16:01 THEY HAD NO PREVIOUS APPROVALS.
19:16:03 I KNOW THAT MR. PRESSMAN SAID THEY HAD A PREVIOUS
19:16:04 APPROVAL.
19:16:05 THEY DID NOT.
19:16:07 IT NEVER WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
19:16:08 IT WAS WITHDRAWN.
19:16:11 THEY HAVE NEVER HAD A COMPLETED PROCESS WHERE THEY WERE
19:16:13 APPROVED FOR ANYTHING.
19:16:17 IT REMAINED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
19:16:20 THERE HAVE BEEN NO EVIDENCE, NO DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER
19:16:23 OF WHY A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT WILL BE APPROPRIATE IN
19:16:25 THIS LOCATION.
19:16:26 YOU HEARD ABOUT THE PROGRAMS.
19:16:29 AND THAT'S WHY I WAS INSISTING THAT THEY BE SEPARATED.
19:16:31 THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY DO.
19:16:32 I AGREE.
19:16:33 THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
19:16:36 BUT THE GREAT JOB DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL
19:16:36 COMPONENTS.
19:16:39 THE WAREHOUSE CAN BE THERE JUST AS IT IS WITHOUT
19:16:41 CHANGING ANY LAND USE.
19:16:42 THEY RECOGNIZED THAT.
19:16:45 SO IF THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE
19:16:49 PROGRAMS AND WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY DO, GO FOR IT.
19:16:51 THERE IS OTHER LAND AVAILABLE THAT IS RESIDENTIAL IN
19:16:52 THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
19:16:55 THERE ARE VACANT HOMES IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST.
19:16:56 BUY THEM.
19:16:58 PUT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT THERE.
19:17:02 THEY CAN BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT DON'T PUT THEM IN
19:17:03 AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
19:17:06 DON'T JEOPARDIZE THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
19:17:09 YOU ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR HOW MANY ACRES
19:17:11 WERE TIED UP IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
19:17:15 165 ACRE NOTICE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT ARE LIGHT
19:17:15 INDUSTRIAL.
19:17:21 MORE THAN HALF OF THAT INVOLVES THESE 11 USERS.
19:17:26 THE OTHER 32, 33 ACRES IT TECO WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY TO
19:17:27 THE EAST.
19:17:29 NOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
19:17:32 YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD SOMEBODY SAY A MINUTE AGO, WHY PUT
19:17:33 THEM IN JEOPARDY?
19:17:36 WHY JEOPARDIZE THE CHILDREN?
19:17:37 WE TRIED TO REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PETITIONER
19:17:42 REGARDING REASONABLE RESTRICTION THAT'S WOULD PROTECT
19:17:44 THE INDUSTRIAL USERS.
19:17:47 THEY WOULDN'T BE COMPLAINING ABOUT VAPORS AND CHEMICAL
19:17:51 PLANTS AND, YOU KNOW, VIBRATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
19:17:52 WE COULDN'T GET TO THAT.
19:17:55 THEY JUST SIMPLY SAID NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
19:17:56 IT'S OVERREACHING.
19:17:59 THEY ARE OVERREACHING BY PUTTING A RESIDENTIAL
19:18:00 COMPONENT IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
19:18:02 WE ASK TO YOU DENY THE PETITION.
19:18:04 DO NOT GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
19:18:07 IT'S -- IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST, AND THEY HAVE NOT
19:18:10 PROVEN THEIR CASE WHY IT SHOULD BE.
19:18:11 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:18:12 APPRECIATE IT.
19:18:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:18:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MICHELINI, I APOLOGIZE.
19:18:20 WHEN YOU PUT THE MAP UP, I NEED FOR YOU TO POINT OUT
19:18:24 SPECIFICALLY -- OKAY, PULL IT BACK A LITTLE BIT SO I
19:18:27 CAN JUST SEE THE TOTAL.
19:18:30 OKAY.
19:18:34 VERY SLOWLY POINT OUT WHERE THEO KIM IS.
19:18:35 >> TECO IS HERE.
19:18:37 THEO CHEM IS HERE.
19:18:41 AND ALL AROUND AND HERE -- ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE ARE
19:18:44 ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL USERS.
19:18:48 AND ALSO TO THE SOUTH.
19:18:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ABOVE CRAWFORD STREET.
19:18:53 CRAWFORD STREET IS RESIDENTIAL NOW?
19:18:56 >> ON THE EAST -- ON THE EAST SIDE.
19:18:59 WHERE IT SAYS EAST CRAWFORD STREET.
19:19:03 IT SAYS THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
19:19:03 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
19:19:04 THIS IS AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:19:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND.
19:19:08 I AM TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHO IS AROUND.
19:19:13 DIRECTLY ABOVE THIS -- THIS THREE-ACRE PARCEL -- AND I
19:19:16 AM LOOKING ACTUALLY AT THIS MAP.
19:19:18 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS ONE.
19:19:21 IT SHOWS AERIAL AND THE TREES AND THAT SORT OF THING,
19:19:23 BUT DIRECTLY ABOVE THIS THREE-ACRE PARCEL, IT APPEARS
19:19:32 THAT THERE IS TREES AND BUFFER BEFORE YOU GET TO SOME
19:19:39 CLEARED AREA THAT ASSUME IS PART OF YOUR CLIENT'S
19:19:39 STUFF?
19:19:41 >> I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PART OF THE REZONING AND I
19:19:44 DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE REZONING DISCUSSION, BUT,
19:19:48 YES, THIS IS WOODED, BUT -- BUT THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL
19:19:51 COMPONENT, AND THIS IS THE ACCESS ROAD FOR ALL THE
19:19:53 OTHER BUSINESSES.
19:19:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
19:19:56 I WILL ASK STAFF WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
19:19:57 THANK YOU.
19:19:59 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.
19:20:02 MR. MICHELINI, WANTED TO ASK -- YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
19:20:06 PROPOSED -- YOU WERE TRYING TO GO WITH THE PETITIONER
19:20:07 ON.
19:20:09 CAN YOU SPECIFY WHAT THEY WERE?
19:20:11 >> I THINK THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T PUT THEM ON A SITE
19:20:12 PLAN AND YOU CAN'T CONDITION A LAND USE AMENDMENT TO
19:20:13 THEM.
19:20:20 SO IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN A PRIVATE RECORDABLE DOCUMENT.
19:20:23 AND, I MEAN, THE CITY ATTORNEYS CAN TELL THAT YOU WE
19:20:25 CAN'T -- THERE WAS NO WAY OF GETTING TO THAT POINT
19:20:29 THROUGH A CITY PROCESS.
19:20:32 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR OUR INFORMATION, WHAT WERE SOME
19:20:34 OF THE PROPOSAL.
19:20:36 >> WE WERE ASKING FOR PROTECTION OF FUTURE COMPLAINT
19:20:41 REGARDING ODORS, VIBRATIONS, LATE-NIGHT OPERATIONS.
19:20:43 SOME OF THESE FACILITIES ARE 24-7.
19:20:46 AND YOU ARE PUTTING A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
19:20:48 NEXT THING I KNOW I HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS
19:20:52 ABOUT IT IS NOISY.
19:20:55 THERE ARE FLASHING WELDERS DOING ALL KIND OF STUFF.
19:20:57 WE DIDN'T WANT IT.
19:21:02 YOU ARE INTRODUCING -- WHERE NO ONE WINS.
19:21:06 YOU ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY UNNECESSARILY.
19:21:09 AND WE WANTED SOME -- SOME RELIEF, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS
19:21:12 NOT A GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE SUED AT SOME
19:21:16 FUTURE TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIDS WANDER OFF.
19:21:18 THEY DON'T STAY IN ONE AREA.
19:21:19 THEY PLAY.
19:21:20 THEY GO OFF IN AREAS.
19:21:21 AND SO --
19:21:23 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME ASK YOU, WERE YOU LOOKING FOR
19:21:26 SOME SORT OF A LEGAL RELEASE OF LIABILITY IN THE CASE
19:21:30 OF SOME TRAGEDY IN THE FUTURE?
19:21:35 >> STEPHANIE THEOPOLIS IS AN ATTORNEY AND SHE DRAFTED
19:21:39 AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY CATEGORY GORILY REJECTED.
19:21:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:21:41 ANYTHING ELSE?
19:21:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:21:47 NEXT WE MOVE FORWARD TO REBUTTAL.
19:21:51 AND MR. PRESSMAN, I WOULD ASK -- AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE,
19:21:57 BUT JUST TO STEER CLOSE TO THE CENTRAL IDEA OF WHY THIS
19:21:57 CHANGE SHOULD BE DONE.
19:22:01 I MEAN, WE ALL STIPULATE THAT THE -- YOUR CLIENTS ARE
19:22:04 WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY MEAN THAT.
19:22:08 I KNOW A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS AT IDLEWILD AND PASTOR
19:22:10 WHITTEN IS A GOOD MAN, ET CETERA.
19:22:11 BUT JUST TO SPECIFY THAT.
19:22:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, JUST AS A --
19:22:18 PROCEDURALLY BEFORE HE GOES TO REBUTTAL, CAN I ASK MY
19:22:21 QUESTION TO STAFF AND HE CAN REBUT AFTERWARDS?
19:22:25 I AM SORRY, TODD.
19:22:29 CAN YOU PUT UP THE -- THIS AERIAL THAT SHOWS EXISTING
19:22:37 LAND USE?
19:22:38 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
19:22:46 BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.
19:22:49 I DID NOT BRING MY AERIAL FOR THIS AMENDED REQUEST, BUT
19:22:55 I CAN SHOW YOU THE AERIAL FOR THE PREVIOUS REQUEST.
19:22:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES IT SHOW THE RED OUTLINE.
19:23:00 THE THREE-ACRE RED OUTLINE.
19:23:04 >> FOR THE 16 ACRES.
19:23:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THIS ONE.
19:23:16 OKAY.
19:23:21 SO -- I AM TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF THE CLEARED -- THE
19:23:23 CLEARED AREAS ACROSS THE STREET.
19:23:25 HOW BIG IS THAT STREET?
19:23:29 IS THAT -- IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE TWO STREETS THERE
19:23:33 GOING -- OH, THAT IS A TECO RIGHT-OF-WAY?
19:23:35 >> THIS IS TECO.
19:23:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS TECO.
19:23:38 >> ROWLETT PARK DRIVE.
19:23:44 AND WE HAVE -- I BELIEVE -- I BELIEVE THIS IS THEO CHEM
19:23:47 -- I DO HAVE -- MAYBE THIS WILL HEM.
19:23:51 THIS IS WHAT THE STREET LOOKS LIKE.
19:23:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO BACK -- NO, JUST GO BACK.
19:23:59 I WANT TO GET A SENSE OF THE THREE ACRES OF PROPOSED
19:24:02 RESIDENTIAL CHANGE TO THE R-10.
19:24:04 DON'T GO TOO TIGHT.
19:24:06 THANK YOU.
19:24:09 OTHER THAN ACROSS THE STREET WHICH IS THE TECO, WHAT IS
19:24:11 TO THE SOUTH?
19:24:13 >> AN INDUSTRIAL USER.
19:24:16 I DON'T KNOW -- AN INDUSTRIAL USER.
19:24:27 DON'T KNOW USER.
19:24:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE TREES AND FOUR OR FIVE TO
19:24:32 ACRES BEFORE WE GET TO THOSE INDUSTRIAL USERS UP TO THE
19:24:36 NORTH, CORRECT?
19:24:40 >> THE ENTIRE SITE 16 ACRES, THREE ACRES HERE AND
19:24:43 PROPOSAL IN MY PROFESSIONAL PLANNING OPINION JUST
19:24:45 LOOKING AT THAT TIME RIGHT NOW.
19:24:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN WE GET TO THOSE TWO BIG PAR
19:24:50 HAD SELLS?
19:24:50 >> YES.
19:24:54 AND THERE ARE HOUSE THAT'S BACK UP TO THIS SITE OVER
19:24:55 HERE.
19:24:57 AND WE HAVE SOME INDUSTRIAL USERS TO THE NORTH.
19:25:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANTED TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT.
19:25:02 THANK YOU.
19:25:03 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
19:25:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
19:25:05 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:25:06 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
19:25:22 MR. PRESSMAN, GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:25:25 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS, TODD PRESSMAN ON THE
19:25:27 RECORD AGAIN.
19:25:30 THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO YOU FROM
19:25:33 THE EXPERTS AT THE CITY AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO
19:25:37 HAVE LISTED MANY, MANY COMP PLAN POLICIES IN SUPPORT.
19:25:41 AND THEY TELL THAT YOU IT DOES MEET THE INTENT AS
19:25:44 REQUIRED FOR TO YOU FIND TODAY.
19:25:46 BUT TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER OF YOUR
19:25:51 QUESTIONS, RESIDENTIAL ALREADY EXISTS CLOSER TO MR.
19:25:55 MICHELINI'S CLIENT THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
19:25:58 TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE, THERE IS THE EXISTING
19:26:03 RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS A NICE COMMUNITY, 30, 35 HOMES.
19:26:04 A NICE LITTLE COMMUNITY.
19:26:08 BUT WHAT HOPESTREET IS PROPOSING IS THIS AREA RIGHT
19:26:09 HERE FORT LEWIS AMENDMENT.
19:26:13 EXISTING RESIDENTIAL IS 1100 FEET AS I HAD IT FROM
19:26:15 GOOGLE MORE OR LESS.
19:26:19 AND HOPESTREET IS PROPOSING 1300 FEET, EVEN FURTHER
19:26:20 AWAY.
19:26:21 COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:26:25 IF YOU LOOK FURTHER OUT TO THE NORTH IS A PUBLIC GOLF
19:26:25 COURSE.
19:26:27 THE PUBLIC IS MOVING ACROSS THAT ALL DAY LONG.
19:26:32 THAT IS ABUTTING -- I HAD THE NAME LEDRA IF THAT IS THE
19:26:36 SAME PERSON, SAME ENTITY, FOR RELATION OVER HERE.
19:26:39 IT IS SORT OF LIKE KIDS PLAYING BASEBALL IN A
19:26:41 NEIGHBORHOOD AND HIT A BALL HARD AND IT GOES THROUGH A
19:26:43 WINDOW.
19:26:46 BUT WHEN THAT NEXT CHILD COMES UP AND HITS A BALL IN
19:26:48 THE SAME WINDOW, YOU CAN'T BREAK IT AGAIN.
19:26:49 THERE YOU HAVE THE TEST OF TIME.
19:26:51 YOU LIVE THE TEST OF TIME.
19:26:53 THE RESIDENTIAL IS EXISTING.
19:26:54 THERE HAS BEEN NO PROBLEM.
19:26:56 THERE HAS BEEN NO LAWSUITS.
19:26:59 THERE HAS BEEN NO IMPACTS IN THAT RESPECT FOR MR.
19:27:04 MICHELINI'S CONCERNS WHO IS A FRIEND OF MINE.
19:27:07 WE DID GET A HOLD HARMLESS, BUT BEFORE THAT, WE GAVE
19:27:11 THEM EVERY SINGLE REQUEST MADE.
19:27:12 PD PLAN.
19:27:15 MOVE THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.
19:27:18 AND THE OTHER CRITICAL ASPECT IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
19:27:23 LAND USE PLAN OR THE LAND USE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU,
19:27:28 THESE RELATION USE ALSO NOT BE ABUTTING THAT PROPERTY.
19:27:33 THEY WILL BE ABUTTING THEIR OWN USES.
19:27:43 SO LET ME GET THE CORRECT MAPPING HERE.
19:27:47 SO THIS IS MR. MICHELINI'S CLIENT HERE.
19:27:49 WE ARE DOING A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT HERE.
19:27:52 YOU HAVE THIS ENTIRE DISTANCE THAT IS UNDER OUR CONTROL
19:27:52 FOR INDUSTRIAL.
19:27:54 THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
19:27:59 WE DON'T ABUT MR. MICHELINI'S CLIENT.
19:28:02 YOU HAVE A VAST AREA OF LAND AND TREES BETWEEN THE TWO.
19:28:06 AND PLUS ALL THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL JUST IN THE AREA.
19:28:09 WE DID RECEIVE A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT FROM MR.
19:28:13 MICHELINI AND HIS CLIENT.
19:28:17 WE HAD OUR ATTORNEY LOOK IT OVER AND HIS ANSWER IN MY
19:28:19 WORDS OVERREACHING AND EXCESSIVE.
19:28:24 IT CREATED HUGE LIABILITIES FOR ONE STREET THAT THEY
19:28:31 ARE PLACING LIABILITIES, HAZARDOUS WASTE LIABILITIES,
19:28:34 EVERYTHING THEY ARE PLACING ON FUTURE LIABILITIES ON MY
19:28:35 CLIENT.
19:28:37 FURTHER IT CREATES LIABILITIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO
19:28:42 WITH THE REZONING AS I HAVE BEEN TOLD AND I HAVE BEEN
19:28:43 -- IN THAT RESPECT.
19:28:48 SO I WOULD ASK TO YOU LOOK AT HOW WE CAME HERE LAST
19:28:52 TIME AND HOW WE ARE HERE TODAY.
19:28:55 YOU HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY, EXCEPT FOR MR.
19:28:57 MICHELINI.
19:29:02 WE REVISED, RENOVATED, REMOTIVATED, AND HAVE DONE
19:29:05 EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR THIS LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:29:06 YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM LEADERSHIP IN THIS
19:29:09 COMMUNITY THAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU AND TREMENDOUS
19:29:10 SUPPORT FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:29:13 AGAIN IN SUMMARY, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND
19:29:14 CONSIDERATION.
19:29:16 THIS IS GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE FOR A GREAT PROJECT AND
19:29:19 AS THE EXPERTS HAVE TOLD YOU, IT IS A GREAT LOCATION.
19:29:20 THANK YOU.
19:29:23 I WILL PUT THESE IN THE RECORD IF I MAY.
19:29:25 >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
19:29:26 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:29:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO HOW I LOOK AT IT, THERE IS
19:29:31 PLENTY OF RESIDENTIAL THERE, SOME CLOSER THAN THIS
19:29:34 PROPOSED PROJECT, AND TO THE RIGHT IN THAT BLUE SECTION
19:29:36 OF THE MAP, THAT IS THE CITY'S WATER FACILITY.
19:29:41 AND THAT IS EVEN -- THAT IS LITERALLY ABUTS RIGHT UP TO
19:29:42 THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION.
19:29:46 I MEAN, HAD THIS BEEN SOMETHING COMPLETELY NEW AND NO
19:29:50 RESIDENTIAL TO BEGIN WITH, THAT IS ONE THING, BUT A
19:29:54 HEAVILY POPULATED AREA OR WELL POPULATED AREA ALREADY.
19:29:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, ANYONE ELSE?
19:29:59 NO ONE ELSE?
19:30:00 OKAY.
19:30:05 AND MR. PRESSMAN, IF I MAY.
19:30:18 HOW MANY KIDS ARE GOING TO BE LIVING THERE?
19:30:22 16 MULTIUNITS.
19:30:24 >> ISN'T THAT THE KIND OF DETAIL --
19:30:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE RIGHT --
19:30:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE RIGHT.
19:30:29 STRIKE THAT QUESTION, STRIKE THAT.
19:30:32 THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME.
19:30:32 OKAY.
19:30:33 NO FURTHER.
19:30:34 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
19:30:36 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
19:30:38 >> SO MOVED.
19:30:41 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
19:30:45 MANISCALCO AND COUNCILMAN CITRO.
19:30:47 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
19:30:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:30:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL TAKE IT FOR READING OPINION
19:30:56 ORDINANCE FOR ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
19:30:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY AT --
19:31:03 >> TERRIBLY SORRY, FORGIVE ME, I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS
19:31:08 BEEN A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE THAT HAS TO BE ACCEPTED BY
19:31:08 COUNCIL.
19:31:12 IT HAS ALREADY BEEN FILED?
19:31:14 IS THE TITLE THE SAME?
19:31:15 DO YOU KNOW?
19:31:20 OR SHOULD I JUST ASK THE COUNCIL TO READ DIRECTLY SO
19:31:22 THERE IS NO ERROR.
19:31:22 WHAT?
19:31:27 THE MEMO IS ON THE BOTTOM?
19:31:30 SORRY FOR THE DELAY, COUNCIL.
19:31:32 I JUST WANT -- THAT IS THE CORRECT ONE.
19:31:36 THE SAME AS THE TITLE.
19:31:44 THE SAME TITLE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF -- MY APOLOGIES.
19:31:46 >>LUIS VIERA: NO WORRIES.
19:31:48 READING FROM THE BEGINNING.
19:31:52 >> ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
19:31:55 LAND USE MAP FOR 7001 ROWLETT PARK DRIVE FROM LIGHT
19:31:59 INDUSTRIAL LI TO RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 PROVIDING FOR
19:32:06 REPEAL OF ALL EUCLIDIAN PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
19:32:08 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
19:32:10 >> THE BASIS.
19:32:12 >> I SEE EVIDENCE FROM THE PETITIONER WHY THIS SHOULD
19:32:14 BE APPROVED.
19:32:16 AS I MENTIONED IN COMMENTS JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.
19:32:20 RESIDENTIAL IS ALREADY THERE, SOME EVEN CLOSER THAN
19:32:23 THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA'S
19:32:26 WATER FACILITY RIGHT THERE.
19:32:30 YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT HISTORICALLY THERE HAS NOT BEEN
19:32:33 ISSUES OR NONE THAT I KNOW OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD
19:32:38 INVOLVES THE INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL OR WHAT
19:32:38 NOT.
19:32:41 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:32:42 COMMENT?
19:32:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MADE AN
19:32:46 EXCELLENT MOTION.
19:32:47 I HAD ADDED TO IT.
19:32:50 I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS MR. HEY MENTIONED
19:32:54 EARLIER THIS EVENING THAT WE PROTECT OUR INDUSTRIAL
19:32:58 AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE BECOMING FEWER AND FARTHER
19:33:00 BETWEEN.
19:33:02 HOWEVER, WITH THAT SAID, I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR
19:33:07 CASE, AS MR. MANISCALCO POINTED OUT, THAT THIS THREE
19:33:14 ACRES ACTUALLY HAVE BUFFERING AROUND IT.
19:33:18 TO THE NORTH THEY ARE BUFFERED BY THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
19:33:20 ROAD BETWEEN THEM AND THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST.
19:33:24 TO THE EAST, THERE IS ALREADY EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY
19:33:25 RESIDENTIAL.
19:33:27 AND I AM STILL NOT SURE WHAT IS TO THE SOUTH.
19:33:29 BUT ANYWAY.
19:33:32 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE PROPERTIES THAT MR.
19:33:36 MICHELINI AND HIS CLIENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT I BELIEVE
19:33:40 ARE SUFFICIENTLY FAR AWAY REALLY NOT TO BE NEGATIVELY
19:33:43 IMPACTED BY THE RESIDENTIAL.
19:33:48 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES SIR.
19:33:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONLY ASKING FOR 3.8 ACRES TO BE
19:33:55 ZONED, REPLANNED.
19:33:56 IS THAT CORRECT?
19:33:58 3.8 ONLY?
19:34:00 >> 3.7 ACRES.
19:34:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 3.7 ACRES ONLY.
19:34:06 >> ANYONE ELSE?
19:34:10 AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?
19:34:13 >>LUIS VIERA: AND COUNCILMAN CITRO.
19:34:17 YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
19:34:18 >> NO, MR. CHAIR.
19:34:21 >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S
19:34:21 MOTION.
19:34:27 THIS IS A VERY NARROWLY TAILORED ELECTION THERE WITH
19:34:29 SUFFICIENT BURG AND WHAT NOT GIVEN THE PRECEDENT THAT
19:34:33 WE ALREADY HAVE FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL INVOLVEMENT THERE.
19:34:35 I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN ISSUE.
19:34:38 AND THIS IS, I RESPECTIVE OF ANYTHING I THINK
19:34:42 SUBSTANTIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
19:34:45 I THINK IT STANDS ON ITS OWN TWO FEET SO TO SPEAK.
19:34:46 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:34:49 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:34:50 ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
19:34:54 >> THE MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
19:34:58 SECOND READING AN ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 7 -- 17
19:35:02 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:35:07 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, NOW WE MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
19:35:14 NUMBER 13.
19:35:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN
19:35:19 COORDINATION.
19:35:24 REZ 19-113 FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
19:35:27 DEVELOPMENT FOR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE
19:35:35 TRADE AND SEMI DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
19:35:37 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:35:42 I WON'T BELABOR MY INTRO SINCE YOU WILL ALL BE FAMILIAR
19:35:45 WITH THE SITE; HOWEVER, THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS THE
19:35:50 ENTIRE SITE AND APPROXIMATELY 16.75 ACRES.
19:35:53 THE SURROUNDING AREA PRIMARILY INDUSTRIAL USES OF THE
19:35:56 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED THAT ABUTS THE SITE.
19:35:59 AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ALREADY OUTDATED SINCE
19:36:02 YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO CHANGE A SMALL PORTION OF
19:36:04 THE SUBJECT SITE TO RESIDENTIAL 10.
19:36:09 SO AFTER THAT IS ADOPTED, THIS WOULD HAVE TWO FUTURE
19:36:11 LAND USES, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL 10.
19:36:15 ON THE SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT HAS DELINEATED PORTION
19:36:18 AS RESIDENTIAL AND WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL GO
19:36:22 SINCE RESIDENTIAL IS NOT AN ALLOWABLE USE IN THE FUTURE
19:36:23 LAND USE AT ALL.
19:36:24 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
19:36:29 REVIEW THIS AS PART OF OUR REZONING CONSISTENCY REVIEW.
19:36:31 WE DID FIND IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THAT UNDERLYING
19:36:36 FUTURE LAND USE THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AS
19:36:37 CONSISTENT.
19:36:40 WE APPRECIATED THE INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY
19:36:43 THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
19:36:45 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
19:36:49 AND I WILL I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
19:36:50 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
19:36:54 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
19:36:57 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN
19:36:57 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:37:02 AGAIN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
19:37:09 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
19:37:12 JUST FOR THE RECORD, ORIGINALLY THIS WAS A EUCLIDIAN
19:37:15 REZONING REQUEST, AND THEY WERE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO
19:37:19 REZONE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, BUT
19:37:23 AT THE CITY COUNCIL HEARINGS ON THE.
19:37:28 31 OF JANUARY AND MARCH 14, THEY RECONSIDERED --
19:37:31 AMENDED THIS APPLICATION TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
19:37:37 THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS 16.48 ACRES.
19:37:44 PROPOSING A 25,635-SQUARE-FOOT WAREHOUSE AND
19:37:50 DISTRIBUTION BUILDING, A 12,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUSINESS
19:37:54 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND 16 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS IN
19:37:58 EIGHT SEMI DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES.
19:38:02 THE PROPOSED OVERALL SETBACKS FOR THE PERIMETER OF THE
19:38:06 PROPERTY -- THERE ARE 70-FOOT SETBACK TO THE NORTH,
19:38:09 20-FOOT TO THE SOUTH, 60 FEET TO THE EAST.
19:38:11 AND 30 FEET TO THE WEST.
19:38:14 THERE ARE WETLANDS TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT
19:38:16 HAVE BEEN DELINEATED THROUGH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
19:38:20 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION COMMISSION AND THE SITE PLAN
19:38:26 INDICATES COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUFFERING FOR
19:38:35 THAT WOODLAND.
19:38:39 BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO VEHICULAR ENTRANCES ONE WILL
19:38:45 BE MOSTLY FOR THE WAREHOUSING AND TRUCK TRAFFIC FOR A
19:38:47 SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE THAT
19:38:50 WILL GO INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
19:38:53 THE ENTIRE RESIDENTIAL AREA WILL BE FENCED OFF FROM THE
19:38:54 INDUSTRIAL AREA.
19:38:58 SO THERE WILL BE A FENCE IN THIS AREA, WITH A
19:39:05 PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION AND A GATE TO ACCESS IT.
19:39:10 THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HAS SOME MINOR SITE PLAN
19:39:13 MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READDING IF YOU
19:39:16 DO ADOPT THIS PD, AS WELL TRANSPORTATION.
19:39:20 THEY HAVE MODIFICATIONS TO SOME OF THE WAIVER LANGUAGE,
19:39:24 AND NATURAL RESOURCES FINALLY ALL HAD SOME MINOR
19:39:26 CHANGES TO THE TREE DATA.
19:39:31 GIVEN THE SITE IS CURRENTLY HEAVILY WOODED.
19:39:34 I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT A LOT OF AERIALS.
19:39:38 BUT HERE IS ANOTHER AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERLY.
19:39:40 YOU CAN SEE IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES ON THE
19:39:41 PROPERTY.
19:39:43 THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF TO PRESERVE AS MANY
19:39:46 TREES AS POSSIBLE.
19:39:51 HOWEVER, 17 NONGRAND TREES ARE REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED.
19:39:56 SAYING THAT, THERE IS LONG AND INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS AND
19:39:58 ANALYSIS FROM OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.
19:40:02 THEY DID STILL FIND THIS PETITION CONSISTENT.
19:40:04 AS FAR AS WAIVERS, THE ONLY -- THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS
19:40:06 BEING REQUESTED.
19:40:11 ONE IS TO REDUCE 24-FOOT DRIVE AISLE BACK-UP DISTANCE
19:40:13 TO 20-FOOT.
19:40:16 THAT IS FOR SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS FOR THE
19:40:22 SEMI ATTACHED UNITS.
19:40:26 TO REDUCE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS FROM THREE
19:40:27 BERTHS DOWN TO TWO.
19:40:32 AND REMOVAL OF 17 NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES.
19:40:37 SEEING THAT, THE OVERALL REVIEW OF TAMPA DID FIND THIS
19:40:40 CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
19:40:42 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
19:40:45 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
19:40:47 THANK YOU.
19:40:52 APPLICANT?
19:40:56 >> I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK AND DO THE POWERPOINT AGAIN,
19:41:06 PLEASE.
19:41:07 IF WE COULD -- THANK YOU.
19:41:12 TODD PRESSMAN FOR THE RECORD.
19:41:17 MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, COUNCILMEMBERS, THERE
19:41:20 IS REZ 18-113.
19:41:24 YOU ARE AWARE OF THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT, ITS
19:41:29 LOCATION, THE USER.
19:41:31 I WILL CLARIFY THE RECORD, IF I MAY.
19:41:35 IN 2016, A VOTE DID COME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL FOR
19:41:39 HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY
19:41:39 COUNCIL.
19:41:43 IT THEN WENT UP TO DCA -- OR THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC
19:41:45 DEVELOPMENT AND WAS APPROVED BY THEM BUT DID NOT COME
19:41:46 BACK TO COUNCIL.
19:41:48 SO A VOTE WAS MADE AND APPROVED.
19:41:51 IT DID NOT COME TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THE DEAL WAS PULLED.
19:41:56 I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
19:42:00 SO WE ARE GOING TO A PD WHICH QUITE FRANKLY HAS BEEN
19:42:04 DESIGNED AND MODIFIED TO MEET THE MANY NEIGHBORS OF
19:42:04 CONCERNS.
19:42:07 THAT IS REALLY WHY WE WENT TO THE PD AND ALL THOSE
19:42:08 ELEMENTS.
19:42:12 I WILL SAY WITH REGARD TO THE TREE ISSUE, WE WORKED
19:42:14 EXTREMELY LONG AND HARD WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES
19:42:16 DEPARTMENT, THE ZONING STAFF, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
19:42:17 STAFF.
19:42:19 THEY WERE GREAT TO WORK WITH ON THIS.
19:42:25 AND WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF RENDITIONS.
19:42:31 60 DETACHED, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE THAT IS LAID
19:42:32 OUT IN THE PLAN.
19:42:35 I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS
19:42:38 DEFINED BY A SECURITY FENCE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE
19:42:38 PROPERTY.
19:42:42 THIS WAS ONE CRITICAL ASPECT FOR MY CLIENTS THAT IS
19:42:48 SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM THE REST OF THE USERS.
19:42:51 THE PD PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU IS THREE PARTS.
19:42:55 THE CENTER ON THE NORTH, TRUCKING STORAGE, MULTIUSE,
19:43:00 FAMILY CENTER AND THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
19:43:04 I WILL JUST NOTE AGAIN YOUR STAFF AND POLICIES ARE
19:43:06 COMPLETELY IN SUPPORT.
19:43:09 YOUR ZONING STAFF KNOW THE PROJECT IS A MIX OF WARE
19:43:14 HOUSE RESIDENTIAL AND DOES MEET THE INTENSITY --
19:43:18 CONTRIBUTE WITH INTENSITY AND THE PATTERN IN THE AREA.
19:43:21 YOU HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING
19:43:21 COMMISSION.
19:43:23 ALL THE STAFF DEPARTMENTS ARE IN SUPPORT AS YOU CAN
19:43:24 SEE.
19:43:27 THEY ARE ALL CONSISTENT.
19:43:31 YOU ARE SEEING THE PUBLIC SUPPORT, COMMUNITY LEADER
19:43:32 SUPPORT.
19:43:35 SO WITH THAT, I WON'T GO INTO ANY MORE DETAILS.
19:43:38 I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT, BUT ANY QUESTIONS IF I MAY
19:43:42 RESERVE TIME, I WILL BE HAPPY TO.
19:43:43 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
19:43:45 THANK YOU, SIR --
19:43:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTION.
19:43:50 >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, COUNCILMAN GUDES, QUESTION.
19:43:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAREHOUSE ON THE ONE FRAME YOU
19:43:53 PUT UP.
19:44:08 CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK UP FOR ME?
19:44:12 >> LET ME CLARIFY, IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN.
19:44:13 THIS IS ROWLETT PARK.
19:44:15 THIS IS THE CENTER ON THE NORTH.
19:44:16 THE NORTH PART.
19:44:23 THIS IS TO THE SOUTH.
19:44:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE WAREHOUSE
19:44:28 PORTION.
19:44:29 >> YES, SIR.
19:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT 24 HOURS OPERATING OR MORNING
19:44:34 TIME OPERATION?
19:44:36 THAT IS A PRETTY QUIET YET NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE BACK OF
19:44:39 THERE, SO I WANT TO KNOW --
19:44:43 >> THE HOURS ARE 8:30 TO 4:30, BUT THAT AREA IS NOT
19:44:45 ABUT TOGETHER RESIDENTIAL.
19:44:48 SO THE -- THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL -- SORRY, THE OTHER
19:44:51 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOCATED OVER HERE.
19:44:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO THE BOTTOM.
19:44:54 >> THIS IS LOCATED HERE.
19:44:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:44:57 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
19:44:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:45:01 IF ANYONE HERE IS TO PUBLIC -- TO COMMENT ON ITEM
19:45:04 NUMBER 13, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
19:45:08 STATE YOUR NAME AND BEFORE MR. MICHELINI STARTS, ANYONE
19:45:10 ELSE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 13?
19:45:13 IF SO, RAISE YOUR HAND.
19:45:17 OKAY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:45:23 >> STEVE, IS THAT SHOWING ON YOUR OVERHEAD?
19:45:28 >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THEO CHEM.
19:45:31 WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE RETENTION
19:45:36 AREA AND THE GREEN SPACE HERE FENCED OFF AND NOT BE
19:45:40 DESIGNATED FOR OPEN SPACE FOR RECREATIONAL USE AS AN
19:45:44 APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL USERS HERE
19:45:46 AND ALONG THIS SIDE.
19:45:49 AND I KNOW THAT KIDS WANDER OFF AND THEY GET INTO OTHER
19:45:50 AREAS.
19:45:52 I AM GLAD THEY ARE FENCING OFF THE RESIDENTIAL
19:45:53 COMPONENT.
19:45:54 KIDS GET OUT OF THERE.
19:45:57 SO I THINK IT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST TO HAVE A
19:46:01 SIX-FOOT FENCE TO DELINEATE THAT AND TO KEEP THAT SAFE
19:46:04 SO THE KIDS AREN'T WANDERING AROUND UP IN HERE AND
19:46:07 GETTING CLOSE TO THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL USERS.
19:46:10 YOU ALSO -- YOU KNOW IN EAST TAMPA, THEY HAVE HAD
19:46:14 DROWNINGS WHERE KIDS GOT INTO THOSE RETENTION POND
19:46:16 BECAUSE THOSE FENCES AND THOSE PONDS WEREN'T
19:46:17 MAINTAINED.
19:46:21 I THINK A REASONABLE HEALTH, SAFETY ISSUE AND I REQUEST
19:46:23 THAT COUNCIL ADDRESS THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THOSE
19:46:27 CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF THIS GOES
19:46:27 FORWARD.
19:46:28 THANK YOU.
19:46:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:46:33 NEXT, PLEASE.
19:46:35 >> COUNCILMEMBERS --
19:46:36 >> YOUR NAME, SIR.
19:46:40 >> RICH READY FROM NORTHDALE.
19:46:44 JUST -- RELATIVE TO THE -- TO THE OVERALL PLAN NOW
19:46:44 HERE.
19:46:48 THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BASE OF OPERATION FOR A LOT OF
19:46:53 THE KEY SERVICES THAT THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES.
19:46:56 I HAVEN'T MENTIONED IT BEFORE BUT RIGHT NOW IN SULPHUR
19:47:00 SPRINGS ELEMENTARY, THEY SERVE 100% OF CHILDREN IN THAT
19:47:01 SCHOOL EVERY WEEKEND.
19:47:05 EVERY WEEKEND, THOSE CHILDREN GO HOME WITH A BACKPACK
19:47:08 FULL OF FOOD, ALL RIGHT.
19:47:12 THIS FACILITY HERE WILL BE SORT OF THE CORE OF WHICH
19:47:16 THE INTAKE OF FOOD OCCURS.
19:47:19 IT IS APPORTIONED ACCORDINGLY AND SENT OUT TO
19:47:21 DISTRIBUTION POINTS.
19:47:22 SO IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THAT HAPPENS.
19:47:25 YOU KNOW WALKING OVER HERE THIS MORNING -- THIS
19:47:27 AFTERNOON, I NOTICED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
19:47:30 YOU CAN'T LOOK AROUND DOWNTOWN WITHOUT SEEING A SKY
19:47:30 CRANE.
19:47:32 A SKY CRANE.
19:47:35 AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT THE FUTURE
19:47:37 AND PROSPERITY OF THIS COMMUNITY.
19:47:41 IN THE SPRING, SIR, THERE ARE NO SKY CRANES.
19:47:46 THERE ARE NO GOLD SHOVELS TURNING DIRT.
19:47:51 THERE ARE NO RIBBONS BEING CUT RIGHT NOW.
19:47:54 THIS -- TO LET YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY YOU WILL SEE THIS
19:47:57 HAPPEN OFTEN, LARGE COMMERCIAL LAND DEALS ARE
19:48:01 CONTINGENT UPON THE DESIRABLE ZONING COMING THROUGH.
19:48:04 THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
19:48:06 THIS GROUP WENT OUT AND PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT
19:48:12 NEARLY A $1.5 MILLION, NOT CONDITIONALLY BUT AS A
19:48:15 MATTER OF A DEMONSTRATION OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO THAT
19:48:17 COMMUNITY.
19:48:21 THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE BETTERMENT FOR THE
19:48:24 COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE GOING TO STAY.
19:48:26 GENTLEMEN, I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THEM AND STAY BEHIND
19:48:27 THEM.
19:48:28 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
19:48:33 AND AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU.
19:48:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:48:38 ANYONE ELSE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 13?
19:48:44 YES, SIR.
19:48:46 >> GOOD EVENING, PHILLIP WHITTEN.
19:48:48 AND I LIVE IN LAND O LAKES AREA.
19:48:51 I CURRENTLY OVERSEE THE BACK PACK PROGRAM THAT MR.
19:48:54 READY WAS SPEAKING ABOUT.
19:48:57 TO DATE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA AT SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
19:49:01 ONE OTHER SCHOOL, WE HAVE DELIVERED ABOUT 290,000 MEALS
19:49:03 TO LOCAL SCHOOLS.
19:49:07 CURRENTLY IN CONVERSATION WITH FIVE OTHER SCHOOLS TO
19:49:11 CURRENTLY DELIVER ABOUT THAT EXACT SAME AMOUNT OVER THE
19:49:13 NEXT 12 MONTHS.
19:49:18 AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL FOR INCREASE FOR HUNGRY
19:49:23 CHILDREN AND ALSO OTHER AREAS TO -- TO BE INCREASED.
19:49:28 THE OPPORTUNITY THAT LIES BEFORE YOU AND US AS WELL IS
19:49:31 SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY
19:49:33 FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
19:49:37 THE GENERATIONAL POVERTY THAT IS IN THE AREA AND ONE OF
19:49:41 THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IS THEY
19:49:41 HAVE NO TRANSPORTATION.
19:49:43 THEY HAVE NO WAY TO GET AROUND.
19:49:47 OUR GOAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS TO INCREASE
19:49:51 FINANCIAL LITERACY AND TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE
19:49:53 COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME.
19:49:56 AND THAT IS OUR GOAL AND INTENTION.
19:49:57 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
19:49:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:50:00 ANYONE ELSE?
19:50:00 OKAY.
19:50:01 ANY REBUTTAL?
19:50:04 CLOSING COMMENTS?
19:50:08 >> I WILL JUST COMMENT TO MR. MICHELINI, IF WE CAN GET
19:50:11 THE FENCE PERMITTED.
19:50:13 WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET THAT CONDITION.
19:50:16 A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL IN THERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
19:50:20 THAT IS NOT A FIXED -- IF WE ATTEMPT TO PERMIT, IF WE
19:50:22 CAN, WE WILL SUPPLY IT.
19:50:26 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI, WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON
19:50:27 THAT.
19:50:30 >> IF IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THE SITE PLAN, IT IS NOT
19:50:31 ENFORCEABLE.
19:50:32 IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:50:34 IT NEEDS TO BE A COMMITMENT.
19:50:37 THEY CAME UP HERE AND SAID THEY WANT TO PROTECT AND
19:50:39 BUFFER ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL USES.
19:50:41 THEY NEED TO DO IT.
19:50:44 MY POSITION IS THAT ADAMANTLY IT SHOULD GO ON THE SITE
19:50:44 PLAN.
19:50:51 >>LUIS VIERA: AND -- YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
19:50:55 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, SORRY TO INTERJECT.
19:50:59 I WILL JUST BRING THIS INFORMATION TO YOUR ATTENTION.
19:51:01 THIS IS A LARGE WETLAND AREA.
19:51:05 THERE ARE THREE RETENTION PONDS AND THIS IS ALSO A
19:51:05 WETLAND.
19:51:08 I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT GOES OFFSITE A LITTLE BIT.
19:51:11 ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURE INCLUDING A FENCING WILL HAVE TO
19:51:14 GO THROUGH EPC APPROVAL.
19:51:15 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:51:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARY, CAN YOU SLIDE THAT UP JUST A
19:51:18 TAD?
19:51:25 IF THEY JUST DID A FENCE ALONG THE LOWER PART.
19:51:27 JUST RUNNING HORIZONTALLY?
19:51:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THEY HAVE A FENCE HERE NOW.
19:51:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A SIX-FOOT FENCE?
19:51:37 >> PLAN SHOWS A FENCE THERE NOW.
19:51:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN INDICATES A
19:51:42 FENCE THERE NOW.
19:51:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RUNS ALL THE WAY FROM EDGE TO EDGE?
19:51:52 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IT IS -- ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
19:51:54 SO THE SITE PLAN -- THE -- HERE IS THE EDGE OF THE
19:51:56 WAREHOUSE BUILDING.
19:52:01 THERE IS A FENCE THAT GOES ACROSS THE DRIVE AISLE AND
19:52:05 GOES ACROSS THIS AREA DOWN OVER TO THE EDGE OF THE
19:52:09 BUILDING.
19:52:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EXISTING FENCE?
19:52:13 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, A PROPOSED FENCE.
19:52:15 THERE ARE NO FENCES OUT HERE NOW.
19:52:16 IT IS COMPLETELY WOODED.
19:52:18 THIS IS WHERE A FENCE WOULD BE.
19:52:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT
19:52:22 FENCE AT THE TOP?
19:52:24 I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE REST OF IT.
19:52:26 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: OKAY.
19:52:30 I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A CHAIN-LINK FENCE.
19:52:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIX -- IS IT SIX FEET.
19:52:35 >> MY ENGINEER -- MY --
19:52:38 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, IT'S YOUR PLAN.
19:52:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR NAME.
19:52:40 >> TODD PRESSMAN.
19:52:44 A SIX-FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCE.
19:52:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAS GOT TO GO TO THE RAILROAD TRACK
19:52:49 PROPERTY.
19:52:51 >> MY ENGINEERING IS INDICATING YES.
19:52:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI, REBUTTAL.
19:52:57 >> IF IT IS THERE I DIDN'T SEE IT AND MR. PRESSMAN
19:53:03 DIDN'T SEE IT AND WE BOTH GOT A PLEASANT SURPRISE.
19:53:04 >>LUIS VIERA: VERY PLEASANT.
19:53:05 WE ARE HAPPY.
19:53:07 ANYTHING FURTHER?
19:53:08 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:53:09 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
19:53:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS ONE.
19:53:14 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM OUR TREE -- FROM OUR TREE FOLKS
19:53:19 HERE TONIGHT?
19:53:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO NATURAL RESOURCES ARE NOT HERE
19:53:23 BUT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:53:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SEEING EXHAUSTIVE WORK ON THE
19:53:30 HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
19:53:34 BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE -- THE ULTIMATE TREE TABLE.
19:53:37 THAT SPEAKS TO -- I MEAN, YOU HEARD ABOUT HOW MANY
19:53:40 GRAND TREES WE ARE GOING TO LOSE, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR
19:53:46 ABOUT HOW MANY GRAND TREES WE ARE GOING TO SAVE.
19:53:48 >> IF I MAY, THE STAFF REPORT DOES HAVE A COMMENT ON
19:53:52 THAT, WHICH IS THAT THERE ARE 904 TREE ON PROPERTY 287
19:53:55 PROTECTED TREES ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL, BUT
19:54:00 PRESERVATION IS 60 -- 67% OF THE TREES ON THE SITE.
19:54:02 THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 50%.
19:54:04 THEY ARE ABOVE THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY CALLS FOR.
19:54:07 LET ME ALSO SAY THAT NONE OF THIS WILL BE DONE THROUGH
19:54:08 THE STATE EXCLUSION.
19:54:11 ALL DONE THROUGH THE CITY RULES AND REQUIREMENTS.
19:54:13 NATURAL RESOURCES IS ACCEPTING THE REPORT.
19:54:16 AND, AGAIN, WE ARE EXHAUSTIVE WITH THEM.
19:54:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION
19:54:19 SPECIFICALLY, MARY?
19:54:23 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT AS HE
19:54:24 INDICATED.
19:54:26 THERE ARE OVER 900 TREES.
19:54:29 287 ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.
19:54:34 AND 36 OF THE 53 WILL REMAIN ON-SITE.
19:54:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES IT SAY THE GRAND TREES.
19:54:39 HE INDICATE 17 GRAND TREES ARE BEING LOST.
19:54:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: 53 GRAND TREES ON SITE.
19:54:43 36 WILL REMAIN.
19:54:45 17 WILL BE REMOVED.
19:54:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PERFECT, THANK YOU.
19:54:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
19:54:49 THANK YOU.
19:54:51 OKAY, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
19:54:54 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND
19:54:55 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:54:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
19:54:59 ANY OPPOSED?
19:55:03 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, DEPENDING ON COUNCIL'S
19:55:07 PLEASURE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE THAT IS ASKED TO BE
19:55:11 ACCEPTED AND IF IT IS THE PLEASURE TO READ THE TITLE,
19:55:12 TO BE PRESENTED.
19:55:14 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T RECALL WHO IS NEXT.
19:55:19 WE WILL TAKE COUNCILMAN CITRO, WE WILL TAKE YOU NEXT.
19:55:23 >> THAT IS THE SUBSTITUTE YOU ARE BEING HANDED, SIR.
19:55:25 >> BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND.
19:55:28 >> THE TITLE IS THE OLD ORDINANCE READ THE TITLE FROM
19:55:37 THE SUBSTITUTE.
19:55:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN AND
19:55:45 COUNSEL, REZ 19-113, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY --
19:55:49 EXCUSE ME, ORDER BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND
19:55:51 CONSIDERATION OF REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
19:55:55 VICINITY OF 70001 ROWLETT PARK DRIVE, THE CITY OF
19:55:59 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
19:56:03 SECTION ONE OF ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, IG,
19:56:07 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
19:56:11 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND WHOLE SALE
19:56:16 TRADE, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY SINGLE DETACHED
19:56:18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:56:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND USE -- EXCUSE ME
19:56:24 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH ALL
19:56:25 DEPARTMENTS.
19:56:26 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS.
19:56:29 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:56:31 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
19:56:36 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
19:56:37 GUDES.
19:56:38 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:56:39 OPPOSED.
19:56:43 >> MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
19:56:45 OCTOBER 19 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:56:48 >> BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A REVISION SHEET ASSOCIATED
19:56:49 WITH THAT.
19:56:52 CAN THAT BE INCORPORATED WITH THE MOTION?
19:56:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: INCORPORATED WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
19:56:57 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME SAY SOMETHING IF I MAY NOW THAT
19:56:58 THIS HAS BEEN CLOSED.
19:57:01 IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT
19:57:05 HAS BEEN DONE SUBSTANTIVELY -- BEING SOUGHT TO BE DONE
19:57:08 IN THIS CONSTITUTION, BUT I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE HERE AND
19:57:13 SAY THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY ADMIRERS OF THIS WORK THAT
19:57:14 WILL BE DONE AND THANKFUL FOR IT.
19:57:18 AND I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF THAT I ALWAYS SEE
19:57:22 IDLEWILD CHURCH AS A COMMUNITY PARTNER IN HELPING FOLKS
19:57:25 OUT NOT JUST IN FEEDING THE STOMACH BUT FEEDING THE
19:57:26 HEART.
19:57:27 AND HELPING THE HEART.
19:57:29 AND THING IS REAL IMPORTANT.
19:57:32 I KNOW IDLEWILD FOR MANY THINGS INCLUDING FOR A CHURCH
19:57:35 WHERE JUDGE JARROD SMITH TEACHES SUNDAY SCHOOL.
19:57:37 THANK YOU, GUYS, VERY MUCH.
19:57:40 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS TO MARY
19:57:41 AND JENNIFER.
19:57:43 WE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH THEM AND THEY WERE SUPER
19:57:44 HELPFUL.
19:57:45 AND THANK YOU.
19:57:49 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT MOVE TO ITEM 14.
19:57:50 DO WE NEED A BREAK?
19:57:55 LET'S TAKE -- IF I MAY, COUNCIL, LIKE A SEVEN-MINUTE
19:57:56 BREAK.
19:57:58 WE ARE TAKING A BREAK.
20:11:45 THANK YOU.
20:11:45 (RECESS)
20:11:47 >>> CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.
20:11:55 IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.
20:11:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
20:11:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
20:12:02 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
20:12:02 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
20:12:09 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
20:12:12 >> MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN.
20:12:16 ITEM NUMBER 14, REZONING 19-71.
20:12:20 FOR 224 EAST EMILY STREET FROM RS-50 TO PLANNED
20:12:26 DEVELOPMENT DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
20:12:27 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:12:30 WE ARE IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT WITHIN
20:12:32 THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
20:12:38 WE ARE ALONG NORTH AND WEST EMILY STREET.
20:12:41 THIS IS THE WOODLAWN CEMETERY AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE
20:12:44 PLYMOUTH PLAYGROUND WHICH IS RIGHT THERE AT PLYMOUTH
20:12:44 STREET.
20:12:52 SO THIS IS VERY MUCH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED IN THE AREA
20:12:57 AND IT IS IN EVACUATION E ZONE AND HART ROUTE NUMBER
20:13:01 ONE SERVES THE SUBJECT SITE PROVIDING TRANSIT OPTION TO
20:13:07 DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND UNIVERSITY CENTER.
20:13:10 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THE BLUE IS PUBLIC THE WOODLAWN
20:13:13 CEMETERY I POINTED OUT EARLIER.
20:13:17 THE ORANGE IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL.
20:13:20 AND THEN THIS IS R-20.
20:13:23 AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, I HAVE RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE
20:13:27 WHICH IS WHERE THE PLYMOUTH PLAYGROUND IS.
20:13:29 WE FOUND THIS REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
20:13:30 PLAN.
20:13:33 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO SUPPORT URBAN
20:13:36 VILLAGES BY PROVIDING USE THAT'S MAKE UP A TRADITIONAL
20:13:37 LIVABLE COMMUNITY.
20:13:40 A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DOES SUPPORT THIS
20:13:43 POLICY DIRECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:13:46 WE FOUND THAT DENSITY IS SUCH THAT IT IS ANTICIPATED
20:13:49 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND
20:13:52 WILL BE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING
20:13:53 AREA.
20:13:54 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
20:13:59 THANK YOU.
20:14:00 >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER.
20:14:02 MARY SAMANIEGO THE RECORD.
20:14:08 AGAIN, THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST TO CREATE
20:14:14 ONE LOT.
20:14:17 JUST SO YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THEY
20:14:19 ARE ASKING FOR.
20:14:23 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RS-50.
20:14:26 THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER ARE WANTING TO
20:14:29 SPLIT OR SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY.
20:14:33 THE ENTIRE LOT WAS NOT LARGE ENOUGH, NOT 10,000 SQUARE
20:14:38 FEET IN AREA TO CREATE TWO 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOTS.
20:14:42 SO THEY ARE REZONING A PORTION OF THE PARENT TRACK TO
20:14:47 PD AND THEN THE REMAINING PORTION MEETS THE RS-50
20:14:51 ZONING DISTRICT IN ORDER TO BE SPLIT.
20:14:54 SO THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SHOWING THE ONE LOT
20:14:57 THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO CREATE THAT IS SUBSTANDARD
20:14:59 BEYOND THE RS-50 DISTRICT.
20:15:03 THE LOT IS ONLY 60 FEET WIDE BY 81 FEET.
20:15:07 SO THIS LOT IS ONLY 4860 SQUARE FEET.
20:15:12 WHENEVER AN APPLICANT OR PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTS TO
20:15:15 CREATE A LOT LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET, THE SMALLEST
20:15:19 LOT WE HAVE IN A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT THEY DEFECT
20:15:22 INTO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND CREATE THEIR OWN MINIMUM
20:15:22 LOT SIZE.
20:15:25 BECAUSE THIS PORTION OF THE NEW LAW THAT THEY WANTED TO
20:15:28 CREATE DID NOT FIT INTO THE EXISTING RS-50 ZONING
20:15:29 DISTRICT.
20:15:33 THERE WERE HAVING TO DO A PD FOR THIS SINGLE LOT.
20:15:35 SAYING THAT THE PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
20:15:39 COORDINATION HAS SOME CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN
20:15:40 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:15:45 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE COMPARABLE AND TO THE RS-50
20:15:46 ZONING DISTRICT.
20:15:48 AGAIN THE LOT IS 60 FEET WIDE.
20:15:51 IT DOES NOT HAVE THE DEPTH FOR THE ORIGINAL PLOT.
20:15:54 NATURAL RESOURCES DOES HAVE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND
20:15:57 SECOND READING AS WELL STORMWATER AND REMIND YOU WHEN
20:16:00 YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION -- IF YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION TO
20:16:03 APPROVE TO REMEMBER THE REVISION SHEET.
20:16:06 AND THE ONLY WAIVER BEING REQUESTED IS TO CONTRIBUTE TO
20:16:10 THE TREE TRUST FUND FOR ANY TREES MITIGATION OR
20:16:13 REQUIRED TREE THAT'S CANNOT BE PLACED BACK ON-SITE.
20:16:15 AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, THERE ARE QUITE A
20:16:20 NUMBER OF EXISTING TREES THAT WILL BE SAVED AND
20:16:22 SOMETIMES THAT PROHIBITS THE PLANTING OF ADDITIONAL
20:16:27 TREES AND THEY PAY TO THE TREE TRUST FUND.
20:16:30 SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND IN
20:16:33 CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE SECTIONS OF THE CITY OF
20:16:35 TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
20:16:36 ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
20:16:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
20:16:39 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
20:16:43 APPLICANT, PLEASE?
20:16:51 >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS PERRY SULLIVAN.
20:16:59 A COPY OF THE LOT THAT MY CLIENT OWNS.
20:17:01 HE OWNS THE WHOLE LOT.
20:17:05 THIS HOUSE THAT WE ARE REMODELLING AND KEEPING THAT --
20:17:07 THIS LEGAL LOT.
20:17:13 AND THIS IS THE HOUSE WE ARE -- THIS IS ONE WE ARE
20:17:14 REMODELLING.
20:17:17 THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1923.
20:17:20 SO THE ZONING IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW THAN WHAT IT
20:17:21 WAS IN 23.
20:17:24 THE ONE ADJACENT TO IT IS IN 1950.
20:17:27 SO WHAT MY CLIENT IS TRYING TO DO IS UTILIZE THESE
20:17:27 LOTS.
20:17:32 THIS HOUSE IS IN VERY DISREPAIR.
20:17:36 IT IS AT LEAST A FOOT AND A HALF.
20:17:36 AND 23.
20:17:40 TO NOT A LOT OF WATER HAS BEEN IN THERE AND PRETTY MUCH
20:17:51 DESTROYED THE HOUSE.
20:17:54 THIS IS A PROPOSAL OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
20:17:58 IT WOULD BE A LOT -- IT WOULD BE A VERY LARGE
20:18:02 IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WE HAVE HERE NOW.
20:18:05 AND THIS IS JUST THE FLOORPLAN.
20:18:13 WHAT THE PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
20:18:17 THIS YELLOW HOUSE IS ONE WE ARE REMODELING.
20:18:21 THE ONE IN THE BACK WE ARE GOING TO SCRAPE THE LOT.
20:18:26 THE ONLY THING HOLDING IT TOGETHER ARE TERMITES.
20:18:29 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
20:18:31 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
20:18:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
20:18:35 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
20:18:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY HERE PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM
20:18:39 NUMBER 14.
20:18:40 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
20:18:43 THE MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
20:18:45 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
20:18:46 ALL IN FAVOR.
20:18:48 ANY OPPOSED?
20:18:50 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT TAKING ITEM
20:18:51 NUMBER 14, SIR.
20:18:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
20:18:57 ITEM REZ 19-71.
20:19:00 MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND
20:19:02 CONSIDERATION OF REZONING OF PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
20:19:06 VICINITY OF 224 WEST EMILY STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
20:19:09 FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED FROM SECTION 1
20:19:13 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, SINGLE
20:19:17 FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
20:19:20 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
20:19:26 IN MY OPINION, THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BASIS FOR
20:19:31 MEETING THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO FIND COMPETENT AND THIS
20:19:34 RECORD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
20:19:37 THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE AND ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT YOU
20:19:38 MAY NEED.
20:19:41 AND THE REVISION SHEET.
20:19:45 MISS MARY SAMANIEGO IS LOOKING AT ME.
20:19:45 >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
20:19:49 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY
20:19:50 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
20:19:53 ANY OPPOSED.
20:19:55 >> THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
20:20:00 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON OCTOBER 17 AT 9:30 A.M.
20:20:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:20:04 MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, 15.
20:20:05 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:20:14 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
20:20:20 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, LACHONE DOCK.
20:20:25 THE NEXT ITEM IS AB 2-19-21.
20:20:30 THE APPLICANT IS BEING REPRESENTED BY JOHN GRANDOFF.
20:20:37 WINE AND LIQUOR ON PREMISE AND CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISE.
20:20:40 THE PROPERTY REQUEST IS TOTAL FIVE PARCELS.
20:20:43 THESE PARCELS ARE LOCATED WITHIN AN OVERALL PD A
20:20:49 APPROVED IN 2007 FILE NO. Z07-48 AND PD A WAS APPROVED
20:20:52 FOR A MIXTURE OF USE THAT'S INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL,
20:20:55 OFFICE, COMMERCIAL AND HOTEL USES.
20:21:01 SO THAT PDA IS KNOWN AS THE WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT,
20:21:05 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU JUST THAT OVERALL AREA FOR
20:21:15 THE DISTRICT, FOR THAT PROJECT.
20:21:20 SO THIS IS SHOWING YOU THE PDA BOUNDARY.
20:21:23 SO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THIS
20:21:27 MAP, THIS IS GANDY BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH.
20:21:30 TYSON AVENUE IS THE SOUTH.
20:21:32 THE BOUNDARY TO THE EAST IS WESTSHORE.
20:21:35 AND THEN THE BAY IS TO THE WEST.
20:21:38 IT IS NOT IN THIS PICTURE, BUT BRIDGE STREET HAS BEEN
20:21:41 CONSTRUCTED AND THAT IS RUNNING CENTER OF THE PROJECT
20:21:45 AS THE MAIN CORRIDOR, AND THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT THAT IS
20:21:49 PROVIDED THERE WHICH I HAVE FOR YOU ON THIS MAP.
20:21:53 BEFORE I GET INTO THE AB SALES AREA, I WOULD LIKE TO
20:21:56 SHOW YOU WHERE THESE PARCELS ARE LOCATED IN RELATION TO
20:21:58 THE OVERALL PROJECT AREA.
20:22:02 SO THIS IS THE AERIAL.
20:22:05 THIS IS GANDY BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH.
20:22:08 THIS IS BRIDGE STREET.
20:22:12 THIS IS THE ROUNDABOUT THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED.
20:22:15 AND THIS TAKES YOU TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PD A
20:22:17 PROJECT AND THAT IS TYSON AVENUE.
20:22:22 BUT THE AREA UNDER THIS REQUEST ARE THE PARCELS LOCATED
20:22:23 IN RED.
20:22:26 SO PARCEL 1 IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF BRIDGE
20:22:27 STREET.
20:22:31 PARCEL 2 ON THE EAST SIDE AT THE CORNER OF GANDY.
20:22:35 PARCEL 3 IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
20:22:40 AND THIS IS PARCEL 4, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
20:22:44 AND PARCEL 5 IS LOCATED HERE BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL
20:22:44 THAT IS THERE.
20:22:50 SO UNDER THE REQUEST BUFFER, THE PROPOSED USES ARE
20:22:54 RESTAURANTS, BAR, LOUNGE, RETAIL SALES TO INCLUDE
20:22:57 CONVENIENCE AND SHOPPER GOODS, GASOLINE AND
20:23:00 RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
20:23:03 THEN IF I CAN HAVE THE MAP BACK UP, PLEASE, ON THE
20:23:04 ELMO.
20:23:09 SO FOR THE PARCELS, UNDER THE AB SALES REQUEST FOR
20:23:12 PARCELS 1 AND 2, THE AREA REQUESTED WOULD INCLUDE BOTH
20:23:13 PARCELS.
20:23:15 THE ENTIRE PARCELS.
20:23:20 PARCEL 1, THE REQUEST IS FOR 72,246 SQUARE FEET.
20:23:26 FOR PARCEL TWO, THE REQUEST IS FOR 43,391 SQUARE FEET.
20:23:31 FOR PARCEL 3, 13001 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR SPACES
20:23:35 PROPOSED AND 1219 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR.
20:23:41 FOR PARCEL 4, 9966 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AND 1153
20:23:43 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR.
20:23:52 PARCEL 5 IS 44,374 OF INDOOR AND 76,840 OF OUTDOOR.
20:24:01 SO THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 268,188 SQUARE FEET.
20:24:05 SO THE AB SALES HOURS ARE LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN.
20:24:09 THEY ARE LISTED AS CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
20:24:18 THE PDA WAS APPROVED FOR 1750 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 83,750
20:24:23 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL -- OF OFFICE, I AM SORRY,
20:24:26 156,250 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.
20:24:30 AND 200-ROOM HOTEL.
20:24:34 THE WESTERN MARINA CONTAINS 54 ACRE.
20:24:38 THIS PDA WAS A PROJECT TO BE APPROVED IN PHASES.
20:24:40 AS THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, ONE THING THAT IS REQUIRED
20:24:44 PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMITTING IS THEY MUST SUBMIT FOR
20:24:47 AND RECEIVE APPROVAL THROUGH THE INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN
20:24:48 REVIEW PROCESS.
20:24:51 ONE THEY RECEIVE APPROVAL THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEY
20:24:52 MOVE FORWARD TO PERMITTING.
20:24:56 SO THE REASON I AM EXPLAINING THIS, IS SOME OF THE
20:25:00 PICTURES I SHOW YOU OF THE PARCEL, THE PARCELS ARE
20:25:03 VACANT BECAUSE IT IS A PHASED DEVELOPMENT.
20:25:08 THE PARKING IS BASED UPON THE APPROVED PDA AND MUST BE
20:25:11 MET THROUGH THE TIME OF PERMITTING THROUGH THE SPECIAL
20:25:13 USE PROCESS, A WAIVER OF 30% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING
20:25:17 AND THAT IS FOR THE RESTAURANT USES I WOULD HAVE
20:25:19 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
20:25:22 AND THAT REQUEST IS LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN, THAT
20:25:23 WAIVER.
20:25:27 THE SITE PLAN ALSO STATES THAT THERE IS NO AMPLIFIED
20:25:29 SOUND PERMITTED.
20:25:32 THIS IS FOR BAR LOUNGE USES AND RESTAURANT USES ONLY
20:25:36 AND ALL PERMITS AS OF APRIL 1, 2011 SHOULD KEEP ON-SITE
20:25:41 ANA COPY OF THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED SITE
20:25:42 PLAN.
20:25:45 THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS UNDER THIS REQUEST.
20:25:47 ONE IS REQUESTED TO BE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
20:25:48 READING.
20:25:52 THE FIRST WAIVER IS TO REDUCE THE SEPARATION OF
20:25:57 RESIDENTIAL USES FROM 250 FEET TO 0 FEET.
20:26:01 THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO ALLOW ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES
20:26:05 IN PARCELS 1, 2 AND 5 ONLY TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE
20:26:07 PARKING AND LOADING AREA SPACE.
20:26:10 THE THIRD WAIVER TO ALLOW UP TO 30% PARKING REDUCTION
20:26:15 FOR ALL RESTAURANT USES SERVING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND
20:26:18 THAT IS FOR PARCELS 1-4.
20:26:20 PAGE THREE OF THE STAFF REPORT, COUNCIL, YOU WILL FIND
20:26:24 THE STAFF FINDINGS FOR PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
20:26:26 COORDINATION A FINDING OF INCONSISTENT AND THAT IS
20:26:29 RELATED TO THE THREE WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED.
20:26:32 ALSO, THERE ARE SITE PLAN REVISIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN
20:26:34 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:26:37 I HAVE PROVIDED FOR YOU A SITE PLAN REVISION SHEET, AND
20:26:39 THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT AND THE
20:26:43 APPLICANT DOES AGREE TO MAKE THE REQUESTED CHANGES
20:26:48 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:26:52 ON PAGE 5 OF THE STAFF REPORT, YOU WILL FIND
20:26:55 TRANSPORTATION FIND OF INCONSISTENT IN RELATION TO THE
20:26:58 WAIVER REQUESTED FOR THE 30% PARKING REDUCTION FOR THE
20:27:01 RESTAURANT USES THROUGH THE PROJECT.
20:27:05 ON PAGE 5 OF THE REPORT, YOU WILL SEE THE CODE CRITERIA
20:27:08 FOR COUNCIL REFERENCE AND CONSIDERATION.
20:27:13 SECTION 27-43 IS PROVIDED FOR YOU THE DEFINITIONS.
20:27:16 START WITH A LARGE VENUE WHICH IS THE REQUEST BUFFER
20:27:20 AND THEN ALL THE CLARIFICATIONS AND THE REQUESTED USES
20:27:21 UNDER THIS REQUEST.
20:27:24 WHICH I WILL REVIEW WITH YOU IN A MOMENT WHICH IS A
20:27:26 PART OF THE AB USE TABLE.
20:27:30 AND SCHEDULE PROVIDED IN THE SITE PLAN.
20:27:35 PAGE SIX OF THE REPORT, SECTION 27-129 GENERAL
20:27:36 STANDARDS.
20:27:41 AND ON PAGE 7 OF THE REPORT, SECTION 27-132 CONTAINS
20:27:47 THE REGULATIONS REGARDING SPECIAL USES.
20:27:52 AND THEN THIS IS -- THE AERIAL.
20:28:00 IT'S -- AND SO THIS IS GANDY BOULEVARD.
20:28:02 THIS IS BRIDGE STREET.
20:28:04 AND THIS IS THE ROUNDABOUT.
20:28:07 SO THE PICTURES I WILL SHOW YOU, I WILL START WITH
20:28:08 PARCEL 1.
20:28:13 THEN OVER TO PARCEL 2 AND DO THE PARCELS IN ORDER.
20:28:15 PARCEL ON BRIDGE STREET.
20:28:19 PARCEL 3 AND 4 AND SHOW YOU PARCEL 5.
20:28:22 THIS VIEW OF PARCEL 5 IS ONLY FROM THIS POINT, AND SHOW
20:28:23 YOU WEST.
20:28:26 BUT THAT PARCEL HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED, SO YOU WILL
20:28:30 JUST SEE THE ENTRY INTO THERE THE PARCEL.
20:28:33 SO THIS IS PARCEL ONE.
20:28:38 THE NORTH END OF THE SITE AT THE CORNER OF GANDY THIS
20:28:42 IS ANOTHER VIEW OF PARCEL 1.
20:28:44 THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF PARCEL 1.
20:28:47 THAT IS ON BRIDGE STREET.
20:28:53 THIS IS PARCEL 2 ON BRIDGE STREET, ON THE EAST SIDE.
20:28:58 AND THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF PARCEL 2.
20:29:03 THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH ON BRIDGE STREET.
20:29:06 THEN WE ARE DOWN SOUTH ON BRIDGE STREET.
20:29:10 THIS IS THE PARCEL 3 LOOKING NORTH.
20:29:12 THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF PARCEL 3.
20:29:15 THIS IS PARCEL 3 ON THE LEFT AND PARCEL 4 WILL BE ON
20:29:18 THE RIGHT.
20:29:22 THIS IS PARCEL 4.
20:29:26 ANOTHER VIEW OF PARCEL 4 THAT IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST.
20:29:29 AND THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT, THE
20:29:32 RESIDENTIAL THAT IS ACROSS FROM PARCEL 3, AND THIS IS
20:29:36 THAT VIEW OF PARCEL 5, AND THIS IS JUST FROM THE POINT
20:29:41 OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
20:29:44 SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE LARGE VENUE FOR
20:29:47 THE -- FOR THE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
20:29:50 SO WITHIN THAT OVERALL REQUEST, AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
20:29:52 SALES SCHEDULE HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
20:29:56 THAT IS ON PAGE TWO OF THE SITE PLAN.
20:29:59 THAT SCHEDULE LISTS THE PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE
20:30:01 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES CATEGORIES.
20:30:03 WITHIN THIS REQUEST, THE ALLOWABLE USES ARE THE
20:30:08 RESTAURANT DESIGNATION, BAR AND LOUNGE, RETAIL SALES
20:30:11 AND RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
20:30:14 THIS ALSO CONTAINS THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES
20:30:18 CATEGORY, AND THEN THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE IS
20:30:20 ALLOWED FOR EACH CATEGORY.
20:30:21 WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS
20:30:25 WHICH ARE LISTED FOR THE RESTAURANT CATEGORY.
20:30:29 THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS ARE, ONE, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO
20:30:33 SECTION 27-319, WHICH IS THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT.
20:30:37 SO EACH RESTAURANT USE MUST REPORT THEIR ALCOHOLIC
20:30:38 BEVERAGE SALES.
20:30:41 NO SALES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE PARKING OR LOADING
20:30:42 SPACE.
20:30:44 AND THEN THE OTHER CONDITION WHICH WILL BE ADDED
20:30:47 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IS NO OUTDOOR
20:30:53 AMPLIFIED SOUNDS AFTER 11 P.M. THE OTHER CONDITION TO
20:30:58 MENTION, COUNCIL, IS THAT FOR THE BAR LOUNGE CATEGORY.
20:31:00 THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED WHICH IS NO
20:31:02 OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
20:31:05 AND NO SALES PERMITTED WITHIN THE PARKING OR LOADING
20:31:06 AREA.
20:31:09 AND THESE ARE THE ASSOCIATED PARCEL NUMBERS WHERE THESE
20:31:11 USES WILL BE ALLOWED.
20:31:15 SO WITHIN THE OVERALL TABLE, WHAT WILL BE ADDED BETWEEN
20:31:17 FIRST AND SECOND READING IS A CONDITION OF THE
20:31:21 ALLOWABLE USES COULD BE EXCHANGED BETWEEN THE PROJECT
20:31:24 AREA BETWEEN PARCELS.
20:31:27 ALSO THAT SIDEWALK CAFES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A
20:31:28 RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT.
20:31:32 IF YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT
20:31:35 IS A SEPARATE PROCESS AND THAT CANNOT BE APPROVED
20:31:37 THROUGH THIS REQUEST.
20:31:39 AND COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
20:31:42 JONATHAN SCOTT IS HERE WITH TRANSPORTATION, AND HE
20:31:45 WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A MOMENT REGARDING THE PARKING
20:31:47 WAIVER REQUESTED, BUT I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
20:31:48 QUESTIONS.
20:31:51 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE
20:31:54 A QUESTION.
20:31:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POLICE DOCK, YOU PUT UP THAT LAST
20:31:59 FRAME, THE TABLE.
20:32:05 AND -- AND FOOTNOTE TWO SPECIFICALLY SAYS HOURS OF
20:32:08 OPERATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH CITY CODE AND WE HAVE
20:32:10 BEEN HAVING THAT DISCUSSION EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS AND
20:32:12 WHAT COMPLAINTS THAT MIGHT BE.
20:32:16 SO AS YOU READ THAT TODAY BASED UPON THE CITY CODE,
20:32:17 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
20:32:21 >> THE TABLE HERE HAS THE AB SALES HOUR PER CITY CODE
20:32:22 CHAPTER 15.
20:32:24 IT WOULD BE CHAPTER 14.
20:32:26 AND THAT IS 3 A.M.
20:32:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 3 A.M.
20:32:29 >> I AM SORRY, YES.
20:32:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO MATTER WHAT FACILITY.
20:32:33 RESTAURANT, BAR, GAS STATION.
20:32:34 3 A.M.?
20:32:36 >> YES.
20:32:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:32:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
20:32:45 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
20:32:48 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING.
20:32:51 JUST REAL BRIEFLY TO BE CONSIDERED A PARKING WAIVER IN
20:32:52 THIS AREA.
20:32:54 THERE IS ALREADY A SMALL PARKING PROBLEM ON THIS TYSON
20:32:58 AVENUE WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF THE AREA.
20:33:01 AS YOU CAN SEE CARS PARK UP AND DOWN THERE AND CONSIDER
20:33:03 THAT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PARKING WAIVER FOR
20:33:04 THIS AREA.
20:33:07 AND I WILL LET THE PETITIONER JUSTIFY THEIR REQUEST FOR
20:33:10 THEIR PARKING REDUCTION.
20:33:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:33:13 ANY QUESTIONS?
20:33:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:33:19 OKAY, PETITIONER.
20:33:22 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF CITY
20:33:23 COUNCIL AND COUNCIL.
20:33:28 JOHN GRANDOFF WITH THE FIRM HILL, WARD AND HENDERSON,
20:33:30 SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
20:33:34 I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING NEWPORT HOLDINGS
20:33:37 AND BTI PARTNERS AND MY CLIENTS ARE HERE INCLUDING
20:33:44 BRITTANY MAKOWSKI AND MR. BRIAN VAN SLIKE.
20:33:46 IF YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
20:33:49 ALSO THIS EVENING ARE OUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND
20:33:52 TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER MR. STEVE HENRY OF THE LINKS
20:33:54 AND ASSOCIATES FIRM.
20:33:57 STEVE IS A REGISTERED ENGINEER FOR FLORIDA.
20:34:01 AND ALSO COUNCIL FOR ONE OF THE -- COUNSEL FOR ONE OF
20:34:03 THE RESTAURANTS.
20:34:05 THE RESTAURANT INVESTOR AND --
20:34:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING
20:34:09 YOU, MR. GRANDOFF.
20:34:13 >> AND THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY IS MR. DAVID
20:34:16 WILLIS AND THE FOLKS WHO WILL BUILD THE FIRST
20:34:21 RESTAURANT ON PARCEL NUMBER ONE, SCOTT AND KARINA TA
20:34:25 SKIN LAND TELL YOU ABOUT THEIR CONCEPT WHICH IS CALLED
20:34:34 PALOMA IN EVENING, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. HENRY
20:34:37 WHO CAN EXPLAIN THE WAIVER FOR YOU, 30% WAIVER
20:34:39 JUSTIFICATION.
20:34:42 LACHONE HAS DETAILED THE APPLICATION VERY WELL.
20:34:45 WE AGREED TO ALL THE REVISIONS IN THE REVISION SHEET.
20:34:48 AND THOSE WILL BE PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST
20:34:50 AND SECOND READINGS.
20:34:52 AT THIS TIME, STEVE, IF YOU WILL COME FORWARD AND
20:34:53 PLEASE PRESENT THAT.
20:34:56 >> GOOD EVENING, STEVE HENRY, LINKS AND ASSOCIATES,
20:35:03 5023 WEST LAUREL, TAMPA, 33067.
20:35:07 I WILL JUST GO THROUGH THESE -- THE REQUEST FOR
20:35:11 TONIGHT AS WE HAD SAID IS FOR REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED
20:35:14 PARKING FOR RESTAURANT THAT SERVE ALCOHOL.
20:35:18 BASED ON THE PROJECTED NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS, IT
20:35:21 EQUATES TO ABOUT 106 SPACES WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM
20:35:24 A PARKING -- WAIVING THAT NUMBER OF SPACES.
20:35:26 ONCE IT IS COMPLETED, THE OVERALL PROJECT WILL HAVE
20:35:33 ABOUT 2600 TO 3500 SPACES SO ABOUT 4% DECREASE IN THE
20:35:36 OVERALL PARKING FOR THE PROJECT.
20:35:40 AS INDICATED, THE WESTSHORE MARINA IS A MIXED USE
20:35:41 PROJECT.
20:35:44 WHEN DONE, THE PROJECTION IS 1225 RESIDENTIAL UNITS,
20:35:47 ABOUT 27,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND ABOUT 29,000
20:35:52 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANTS.
20:35:55 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
20:35:58 IT IS A VERY PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED PROJECT.
20:36:02 AND WHAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED HERE ARE THE TRAILS AND
20:36:03 SIDEWALKS FOR THE PROJECT.
20:36:05 THIS IS GANDY BOULEVARD.
20:36:06 TYSON HERE.
20:36:09 WESTSHORE OVER HERE.
20:36:11 THE RED IS A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT GOES FROM GANDY
20:36:14 BOULEVARD DOWN TO TYSON.
20:36:16 AND WE HAVE BRIDGE STREET WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
20:36:19 AND WE HAVE SIDEWALK AND TRAIL ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
20:36:21 STREET AND ALSO SIDEWALK ON TYSON.
20:36:24 SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTOR THAT'S WE LOOKED AT
20:36:26 ASSOCIATED WHERE THE VARIANCE.
20:36:28 AND THOSE INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF FACTORS.
20:36:31 ONE OF WHICH IS INTERNAL CAPTURE.
20:36:34 SIMPLY SAID THE PROJECT IS A MIXED USE PROJECT.
20:36:37 THERE IS GOING TO BE PERCENTAGE OF TRIPS THAT WILL BE
20:36:38 INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.
20:36:40 WE LOOKED AT IT BASED ON THE INSTITUTE OF
20:36:44 TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS AND ESTIMATED ABOUT 29% OF THE
20:36:46 TRAFFIC WILL BE INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.
20:36:49 AND IN FACT, ABOUT 43% OF THE RESTAURANTS WILL BE
20:36:50 INTERNAL.
20:36:53 BUT WE LOOKED AT THE PARKING WE USED 20% AS A
20:36:56 CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
20:36:59 THE SECOND THING IS, BECAUSE IT IS PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED
20:37:01 AND WHAT IS GETTING BUILT OUT THERE, YOU HAVE THE
20:37:04 WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB TO THE SOUTH THAT YOU GET PEOPLE
20:37:05 WHO MAY WALK UP THERE.
20:37:08 IN ADDITION, OFF NEW PROJECT THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
20:37:13 RIGHT NOW, THE WESTSHORE TYSON APARTMENTS ON THE EAST
20:37:14 SIDE OF WESTSHORE.
20:37:15 AGAIN WILL HAVE SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS.
20:37:18 AND ALSO ONE THAT IS IN THE REZONING FOR RIGHT NOW
20:37:21 WHICH IS THE TYSON APARTMENTS JUST TO OUR WEST.
20:37:23 AGAIN, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.
20:37:27 OUR ANALYSIS WE ASSUMED MIGHT BE 5% OF THE PEOPLE MAY
20:37:28 WALK TO THE RESTAURANTS.
20:37:30 THE NEXT ONE IS VALET.
20:37:33 AND I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE VALET SERVICES TO
20:37:35 SEE WHAT KIND OF YIELD THEY GET WHEN THEY ACTUALLY
20:37:37 VALET IN A PARKING LOT.
20:37:42 THEY SAY BETWEEN 25% TO 50% BY PARKING CARS CLOSER,
20:37:43 TANDEM PARKING.
20:37:44 THAT TYPE OF THING.
20:37:50 IN OUR ANALYSIS WE CONSIDERED 15%, AGAIN, A VERY
20:37:51 CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
20:37:58 UBER AND LYFT, A RELATIVELY NEW PHENOMENA.
20:38:03 UBER AND LYFT, 40% OF PATRONS USE UBER WHEN THEY GO OUT
20:38:04 AND DRINK.
20:38:07 30% USE IT WHEN A PERCEIVED PARKING PROBLEM.
20:38:10 ONLY 10% REDUCTION FOR UBER AND LYFT.
20:38:13 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE FACTORS, WHAT IT COMES
20:40:02 OUT TO BE IS THAT THERE IS 193 SPACE REDUCTION.
20:40:04 >> AND AGAIN YOU HAVE THE EXTRA PARKING.
20:40:10 THE BOAT RAMP, BRIDGE STREET, AND THE BOAT SLIPS.
20:40:12 THIS IS A PICTURE OF BRIDGE STREET.
20:40:16 AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
20:40:19 WE HAVE TRAIL ON ONE SIDE.
20:40:21 THE SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
20:40:24 WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE BEING COMPARED TO, WHICH
20:40:29 IS ON TYSON, THIS -- THIS IS AN AERIAL.
20:40:34 THE PICTURE THAT YOU SAW WAS HULA BAY.
20:40:39 THE CLOSEST RESIDENT TO HULA BAY IS WESTSHORE YACHT
20:40:42 CLUB WHICH IS 3200 FEET AWAY.
20:40:46 THIS IS WHAT SOMEBODY LIVING IN WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB
20:40:50 WILL HAVE TO WALK DOWN TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE FROM A
20:40:51 PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT.
20:40:53 OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WALK.
20:40:54 SO EVERYBODY IS DRIVING.
20:40:57 AGAIN, ANOTHER PICTURE OF THAT.
20:41:00 THIS IS A PICTURE OF BRIDGE STREET AGAIN.
20:41:05 SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR PROJECT WITH
20:41:08 THE PEDESTRIAN ABILITY, BUT ALSO, THEN, THE DIFFERENCE
20:41:10 BETWEEN OUR PROJECT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GOT
20:41:17 INTERNAL RESIDENCE AND THE OTHER FACTORS THAT WE
20:41:18 STATED.
20:41:20 UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT CONCLUDES MY
20:41:21 PRESENTATION.
20:41:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
20:41:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
20:41:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. HENRY, AS ALWAYS
20:41:31 THAT -- HOW DID THAT MOVIE SAID.
20:41:34 YOU HAD ME UNTIL YOU SAID THE GANDY BOAT RAMP.
20:41:36 THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT ESPECIALLY ON THE
20:41:39 WEEKENDS BECAUSE THAT THING LOOKS VERY CLOGGED WITH
20:41:40 BOATERS AND CONGESTED.
20:41:44 SO I HOPE THAT WE -- DOWN THE ROAD, WE DON'T SEE A
20:41:45 CONFLICT THERE.
20:41:48 WEEKDAYS IS PROBABLY NOT AN ISSUE, BUT WEEKENDS.
20:41:50 ANYWAY, PUTTING ASIDE.
20:41:57 STEVE, THE NUMBERS THAT THE CITY USES FOR THESE
20:42:00 ESTABLISHMENTS, ARE THEY THE SAME NUMBERS THAT WE WOULD
20:42:03 USE LET'S SAY FOR A RESTAURANT OUT ON GANDY BOULEVARD
20:42:06 THAT SITS BY ITSELF?
20:42:08 >> YES, CORRECT.
20:42:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE NOT TAKING INTO
20:42:13 CONSIDERATION THE FACT THIS IS CAPTURED WITHIN A MIXED
20:42:15 USE DEVELOPMENT.
20:42:17 >> RIGHT, THE CITY ADDS UP THE INDIVIDUAL PARKING
20:42:20 REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL USE AND TOTALS THEM
20:42:23 AND SAYS THAT IS YOUR REQUIRED PARKING AND DOES NOT
20:42:29 TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SHARED PARKING OR MIXED USE.
20:42:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
20:42:32 I THINK NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THIS PETITION, BUT
20:42:35 I AM JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE TO PLANNERS WHO
20:42:36 HAPPEN TO BE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE.
20:42:41 I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT OUR CODE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT
20:42:43 REGARD, TO IDENTIFY THE CONTEXT.
20:42:47 BECAUSE WE ARE ENCOURAGING MORE MIXED USE PROJECTS, AND
20:42:51 WHEN WE DO, YOU KNOW, IT IS REALLY APPLES AND ORANGES.
20:42:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:42:56 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
20:42:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:43:00 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE WHITNEY
20:43:03 MAKOWSKI.
20:43:04 THIS IS HER PROJECT.
20:43:08 SHE HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB OF BRINGING IN TENANT WHO
20:43:10 ARE GOING TO COME INTO THE PROJECT ALREADY.
20:43:12 BRITTANY, FULL COME FORWARD FOR A MOMENT.
20:43:15 WE HAVE AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH THAT WILL GIVE YOU A
20:43:20 LITTLE BIT -- HERE IS PARCEL 1, 2, 3, 4 AND 5.
20:43:22 BRIDGE STREET AND GANDY BOULEVARD.
20:43:25 BRITTANY, PLEASE ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
20:43:30 >> CITY COUNCIL, BRITTANY MAKOWSKI, 4900 BRIDGE STREET.
20:43:33 VICE PRESIDENT OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT FOR BTI PARTNERS.
20:43:36 BTI IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER FOR THE WESTSHORE MARINA
20:43:37 DISTRICT.
20:43:42 IN THE DISTRICT, IT IS COMPRISED OF 52 ACRES ALONG 1.5
20:43:43 MILES ON THE WATER.
20:43:46 THERE ARE CLOSE TO 1300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL BE IN
20:43:49 THE DISTRICT WHEN IT IS COMPLETED.
20:43:54 WE ALSO ARE BUILDING 150-SLIP-DEEP WATER MARINA AND AS
20:43:58 YOU KNOW FOUR -- IT IS LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN AS FIVE
20:44:02 RETAIL PARCELS FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES.
20:44:06 WHEN BTS STARTED PLANNING THIS, A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY
20:44:11 AS YOU KNOW BUT WE WANTED A BROADER INSPIRED WALKABLE,
20:44:14 LIVABLE COMMUNITY AND WE WORKED HARD TO TRY TO DELIVER
20:44:15 THAT.
20:44:18 WITHIN OUR RETAIL PARCELS, WE WILL HAVE A LARGE
20:44:21 WATERFRONT BOAT-UP RESTAURANT AND WE WILL HAVE SOME
20:44:24 GANDY RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS WHEN THE TIME COMES, AND
20:44:28 WE ARE FINALIZING PLANS FOR OUR TOWN CENTER AROUND THE
20:44:31 ROUNDABOUT CALLED MARINA LANDINGS.
20:44:34 AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS ON THE
20:44:38 FIRST FLOOR OF THE THREE HIGH-RISE LUXURY CONDO TOWERS.
20:44:41 SOME OF THE TENANTS WE ANNOUNCED WOULD BE DUCKWEED
20:44:43 URBAN MARKET.
20:44:46 WHEN CURE RATING THIS TENANT MIX, TO FIND THE DAILY
20:44:49 NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS.
20:44:52 WE WANTED TO WALK DOWNSTAIRS GRAB WHAT YOU NEED.
20:44:53 GO TO DINNER.
20:44:54 GRAB A COFFEE.
20:44:59 DUCKWEED URBAN MARKET A SMALL GROCER THAT DOES HAVE A
20:45:02 LIQUOR STORE.
20:45:05 CRUISE SELLERS A WINE BAR AND RESTAURANT.
20:45:09 DRINK COFFEE AND TEA, SMOOTHIES AND ANNOUNCING A FEW
20:45:13 MORE, YOU KNOW, HEALTH, BEAUTY, FITNESS, YOU KNOW,
20:45:14 TENANTS LATER THIS YEAR.
20:45:17 SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE
20:45:20 ARE TRYING TO CREATE HERE.
20:45:21 IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IT IS BEAUTIFUL.
20:45:24 AND YOU KNOW, WE ARE JUST REALLY TRYING TO CREATE THAT
20:45:26 LIFESTYLE HERE.
20:45:27 THANK YOU.
20:45:28 >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTION.
20:45:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
20:45:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EITHER YOU OR MR. GRANDOFF.
20:45:37 MY -- WHEN THIS PROJECT FIRST CAME IN BEFORE YOU GUYS
20:45:42 BOUGHT IT, PROBABLY OUT OF BANKRUPTCY OR WHATEVER, I
20:45:44 WAS ON COUNCIL AND SUPPORTED IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND I AM
20:45:46 THRILLED THAT IT HAS COME TO THIS POINT.
20:45:49 THE REASON I SUPPORTED IT IS BECAUSE IT IS OPEN TO THE
20:45:50 PUBLIC.
20:45:51 >> EXACTLY.
20:45:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR STREETS GO TO GANDY AND TO
20:45:56 WESTSHORE AND OPEN AND WELCOMING TO THE PUBLIC AND
20:45:59 ANOTHER PROJECT FURTHER SOUTH THAT I VOTED AGAINST
20:46:02 BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE AND IT IS WALLED AND
20:46:04 PRIVATE.
20:46:08 SO I AM REALLY THRILLED THAT NOW WE ARE HERE -- WHAT,
20:46:13 JOHN, 12, 13 YEARS LATER, BUT IT HAS GOT TO THIS POINT
20:46:14 AND I AM REAL EXCITED.
20:46:19 BUT WITH THAT SAID, FOOTNOTE TWO ON THE SHORT THAT MS.
20:46:22 DOCK SAID BASICALLY THE HOURS ARE UNLIMITED UNTIL 3:00
20:46:23 IN THE MORNING.
20:46:25 NOW I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO IMPACT -- I DON'T
20:46:27 THINK YOUR HOURS ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS
20:46:31 OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT -- BUT I AM CONCERNED,
20:46:35 ESPECIALLY FOR MR. CARLSON -- THAT IS HIS DISTRICT NOW
20:46:38 THAT DOWN THE ROAD WHEN DO YOU HAVE THE OWNERS AND
20:46:40 RESIDENTS AND THIS SORT OF THING, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
20:46:42 BE OPEN UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING AND THEY ARE NOT
20:46:44 GOING TO APPRECIATE IT.
20:46:46 WHAT ARE WE DOING TO CONSTRAIN THAT.
20:46:49 AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO THE --
20:46:51 INTO THE PETITION?
20:46:52 >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.
20:46:55 SO THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL.
20:46:57 I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A BAR SCENE HERE.
20:47:00 LIKE I SAID THIS IS RESTAURANT, DAILY NEEDS AND THINGS
20:47:02 LIKE THAT.
20:47:04 I DO WRITE IT INTO ALL OF OUR LEASES.
20:47:07 AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE THE PD RESTRICTS
20:47:08 SOME HOURS.
20:47:09 I COULD BE WRONG.
20:47:13 BUT THAT IS NOT OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A BAR SCENE OR A
20:47:15 STRIP OF BARS OR LOUD MUSIC.
20:47:19 LIKE I SAID ALMOST 1300 RESIDENTS --
20:47:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUPLE OF PLACES ON HOWARD AVENUE
20:47:23 JUMP OUT AT ME.
20:47:24 >> NOTHING LIKE THAT.
20:47:29 CLOSE TO 1300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE DISTRICT AND WE
20:47:31 WANT TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS HAPPY.
20:47:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE MR. GRANDOFF WILL SPEAK ON
20:47:35 VOLUNTARY CONSTRAINTS.
20:47:36 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
20:47:41 >> THANK YOU.
20:47:43 >> GETTING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. DINGFELDER.
20:47:46 WE CAN PROBABLY IMPOSE A SPECIAL CONDITION LIMITING
20:47:53 HOURS UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON WEEKENDS AND MAYBE 11:00 ON --
20:47:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC FOR
20:47:58 THE TOTAL COMMUNITY BUT INCLUDING YOUR OWN COMMUNITY.
20:48:01 BUT MAYBE YOU CAN WORK THAT OUT BETWEEN FIRST AND
20:48:01 SECOND READING.
20:48:04 >> LET ME DO THAT BECAUSE I NEED TO CONSULT WITH
20:48:04 BRITTANY.
20:48:08 I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO YOU ON THE FLY.
20:48:11 BUT THINKING SUNDAY AND THURSDAY 11, AND FRIDAY AND
20:48:12 SATURDAY, MIDNIGHT.
20:48:15 BUT LET ME DOUBLE CHECK AND I WILL CLEAR THAT WITH RYAN
20:48:20 AND WITH LACHONE.
20:48:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:48:23 >> JUST QUICK POINTS.
20:48:27 I HAVE TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM LENNAR AND
20:48:30 BAINBRIDGE WHICH BRITTANY OBTAINED THOSE.
20:48:35 I WILL FILE THIS.
20:48:41 AND THEN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE SENT OUT 900
20:48:42 LETTERS.
20:48:44 NOTICE LETTERS.
20:48:46 AND FOUR LETTERS TO PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS.
20:48:48 WE POSTED TEN SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.
20:48:51 I RECEIVED THREE PHONE CALLS.
20:48:55 ALL OF THEM WERE POSITIVE AND SUPPORT AND ASKING WHEN
20:48:56 THINGS WERE GOING TO OPEN.
20:48:59 SO WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT CAN TELL YOU WHEN SOMETHING
20:49:04 IS GOING TO OPEN, AND THIS -- THIS EVENING WE HAVE
20:49:11 SCOTT AND CARINA TASHKIN OPEN PALOMA ON PARCEL ONE AND
20:49:14 THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU FOR A MOMENT AND HAND
20:49:16 OUT A BROCHURE ABOUT THEIR RESTAURANT.
20:49:20 PLEASE COME UP.
20:49:25 >> GOOD EVENING, SCOTT TASHKIN, LIVE INSIDE TAMPA.
20:49:30 THIS IS MY WIFE, CARINA TASHKIN.
20:49:32 >> HELLO.
20:49:36 >> IS IT OKAY -- JUST LIKE TO SAY WE ARE SUPER EXCITED
20:49:41 ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.
20:49:45 ALMOST WISH THAT WE PERSONALLY WEREN'T DOING IT BECAUSE
20:49:51 IT IS GOING TO BE SUCH A COOL SPOT, AND TO BE ABLE TO
20:49:54 ADVICE AT THIS TIME AS A PATRON IS GOING TO BE
20:49:59 SOMETHING SPECIAL -- VISIT IT AS A PATRON IS GOING TO
20:49:59 BE SOMETHING SPECIAL.
20:50:03 TAMPA IS A GREAT CITY AND IT STILL NEEDS MORE OF THIS.
20:50:10 IT NEEDS MORE WATERFRONT, BOAT-UP, NICE RESTAURANTS.
20:50:14 AND THAT'S WHAT CARINA AND I ARE HERE TO PROVIDE WITH
20:50:16 PALOMA.
20:50:22 YOU KNOW, WE -- WE ON A REGULAR BASIS VISIT THE
20:50:26 WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A
20:50:29 INTEREST IN IT YET.
20:50:32 WE CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE TO LIVE THERE.
20:50:34 BUT WE WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:50:37 WE WALK THE FRIENDSHIP TRAIL.
20:50:44 AND IT IS TRULY A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT.
20:50:47 WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THUS FAR IS REALLY INCREDIBLE.
20:50:52 AND TO SEE THAT ALONG THE FRIENDSHIP TRAIL WALK ALONG
20:50:56 THE MARINA AT SUNSET, AND THEY ARE GOING TO WALK UP TO
20:51:03 THIS BEAUTIFUL RESTAURANT WITH A COASTAL ELEGANCE WITH
20:51:07 AN UNIQUE MENU, A FANTASTIC LOCATION.
20:51:12 JUST IS SOMETHING REALLY DIFFERENT, I THINK, FOR TAMPA
20:51:16 IN THIS SETTING AND A WALKABLE SETTING AND PART OF THE
20:51:20 -- ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY WE ARE DOING THIS IS THE
20:51:22 WALKABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:51:27 THEY ARE REALLY -- IT'S -- IT'S SURPRISING HOW MUCH IS
20:51:30 GOING ON THERE FROM THE TOWN HOUSES BEING BUILT TO THE
20:51:33 APARTMENTS BEING BUILT, THE TOWERS ARE BREAKING GROUND,
20:51:37 AND IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
20:51:42 AND WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE RESIDENTS,
20:51:46 HOPEFULLY US, BEING PATRONS AT THIS -- AT THIS SPECIAL
20:51:47 PLACE.
20:51:51 SO HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THE
20:51:51 PRESENTATION.
20:51:53 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
20:51:58 MENU QUESTIONS WILL BE DIRECTED MAINLY TOWARD CARINA.
20:52:00 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
20:52:03 THANK YOU, GUY, VERY MUCH.
20:52:09 >> THANK YOU.
20:52:09 >> THANKS.
20:52:10 THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THIS EVENING.
20:52:14 AND I WILL RESERVE THE REMAINDER OF MY COMMENTS FOR
20:52:15 CLOSING.
20:52:20 THANK YOU.
20:52:24 >>LUIS VIERA: AND MA'AM.
20:52:28 >> LACHONE DOCK, PLANNING AND DESIGN COORDINATION.
20:52:30 JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
20:52:33 A REQUEST REGARDING THE HOURS ON THE PD.
20:52:36 THE PD PLAN DOES NOT SPECIFY ANY HOURS OF OPERATION.
20:52:38 SO THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT IS THROUGH THIS
20:52:39 PROCESS.
20:52:41 SO THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO DO SO.
20:52:44 I DO ASK COUNCIL THAT YOU INCLUDE IT IN YOUR MOTION,
20:52:46 THE HOURS THAT WERE AGREED UPON PLEASE.
20:52:51 ALONG WITH THE OTHER SITE PLAN PROVISIONS PROVIDED.
20:52:52 >> IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:52:57 I DON'T BELIEVE I HEARD ANY AGREEMENT SPECIFIED AS OF
20:52:58 YET AS TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
20:53:02 THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY AS TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING TO BE
20:53:04 DECIDED TONIGHT BEFORE THAT CAN BE PLACED ON THE SITE
20:53:04 PLAN.
20:53:09 AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNSEL BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
20:53:11 READING.
20:53:17 >> WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT TONIGHT.
20:53:18 >> WHAT IS HER NAME?
20:53:21 MAY I ASK?
20:53:23 LACHONE.
20:53:26 >> CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
20:53:30 DID YOU OR SOMEONE SAY A LIMITATION ON AMPLIFIED SOUND
20:53:31 OUTSIDE?
20:53:32 >> YES.
20:53:36 LACHONE DOCK, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
20:53:36 THERE IS.
20:53:42 SO THERE WAS A CONCERN INITIALLY REGARDING THE PARCEL
20:53:46 LOCATION AND THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO THE PARCELS.
20:53:51 SO GIVEN THAT I DID SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT, THE
20:53:54 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN GRANDOFF, AND IT WAS AGREED UPON
20:53:59 THERE WOULD BE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AFTER 11 P.M.
20:54:02 >> THAT WILL BE IN THE PD?
20:54:05 >> THAT IS ON THE SHEET AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED.
20:54:09 >> THE SECOND QUESTION JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR
20:54:11 ANYBODY WATCHING AND MY CONSTITUENTS.
20:54:15 THE CONSTITUENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA ALL ALONG WESTSHORE
20:54:17 HATE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MOVE UP AND DOWN
20:54:19 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
20:54:22 BUT THE CLARIFYING QUESTION JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO
20:54:25 IS WATCHING IS THIS IS ALREADY -- THE DEVELOPMENT IS
20:54:26 ALREADY APPROVED.
20:54:30 WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THE ALCOHOL USE NOW, RIGHT?
20:54:30 >> CORRECT.
20:54:32 >> JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.
20:54:36 THE LAND USE IS ALREADY APPROVED AND THE TRAFFIC HAS
20:54:37 ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
20:54:39 THIS IS ABOUT ALCOHOL USE.
20:54:43 >> THE LAND USE WAS APPROVED THROUGHOUT PD A AND THIS
20:54:46 IS THE SPECIAL USE FOR THE ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE SALES.
20:54:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
20:54:51 >> AND I HAVE A QUESTION, ON THIS MENU, IS THERE GOING
20:54:55 TO BE A SUBWAY HERE TOO?
20:54:56 [LAUGHTER]
20:54:58 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
20:55:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE PUBLICLY HERE TO COMMENT ON
20:55:04 ITEM NUMBER 15?
20:55:09 IF SO, COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
20:55:13 >> COUNCILMEMBERS, JAKE KRAMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER,
20:55:13 MILLER.
20:55:17 A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL FOR ME TO COMMENT FOR PUBLIC
20:55:21 COMMENT, BUT I AM HERE VENTING VTW GROUP WHICH IS THE
20:55:25 OWNERSHIP GROUP OF PALOMA WHICH YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT.
20:55:30 AS MOST OF YOU KNOW MYSELF AND MY PARTNER VIN MARCHETTI
20:55:32 HAD A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT OVER THE YEARS
20:55:37 AND THIS IS WHAT WAS ENVISIONED 12 OR 13 YEARS AGO THAT
20:55:39 WE HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND WE ALWAYS KNEW WE
20:55:41 WOULD BE BACK HERE.
20:55:44 WE KIND OF HOPED THAT THE PARKING CODE MIGHT SEE SOME
20:55:46 ADJUSTMENTS OVER THOSE 12 YEARS.
20:55:50 AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT VIN TOLD ME AND WE WEREN'T THERE
20:55:50 YET.
20:55:52 WE ALWAYS KNEW WE WOULD BE HERE AND THIS IS WHAT IT
20:55:57 TAKES TO GET THE WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND GET THAT REAL
20:55:59 GATEWAY COMMUNITY YOU ARE LOOKING FOR HERE.
20:56:03 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, TO YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT ABOUT
20:56:04 TRAFFIC.
20:56:06 ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY IS BRIDGE
20:56:07 STREET.
20:56:11 AND SO IT'S REINFORCING THAT GRID PATTERN TO HOPEFULLY
20:56:14 HELP SOME OF THOSE TRAFFIC SNARLS.
20:56:18 TO THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ABOUT THE BOAT
20:56:19 RAMP.
20:56:23 I DID TALK WITH COUNTY REAL ESTATE STAFF WHO MANAGES
20:56:25 THAT -- THE BOAT RAMP.
20:56:29 AND THEY DID LET ME KNOW THAT -- THAT THEY ARE
20:56:32 SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONNECTION TO THE USE.
20:56:34 SOME OF THE PARKING SPOTS ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
20:56:35 FOR FREE.
20:56:39 OTHER OF THE PARKING SPOTS ARE -- ARE SPOTS THAT YOU
20:56:41 ARE TOWED IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BOAT.
20:56:45 THE IDEA IS YOU GO OUT, BOAT, AND THEN ABLE TO COME
20:56:47 NEXT DOOR TO THE RESTAURANT.
20:56:51 SO WITH THAT, WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
20:56:55 AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS APPLICATION GETS US A LITTLE BIT
20:57:00 FURTHER TO BRINGING -- I MEAN, REALLY RESTAURANTS AND
20:57:03 PLACES FOR FOLKS TO GO SOUTH OF GANDY THAT REALLY THE
20:57:06 LIKES -- WE HAVEN'T SEEN SOMETHING OF THIS QUALITY
20:57:06 SOUTH OF GANDY.
20:57:08 WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
20:57:09 THANK YOU.
20:57:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
20:57:14 NEXT, PLEASE.
20:57:19 >> TORY BINGHAM, 0801 MARINER STREET.
20:57:21 ACTUALLY PRETTY CLOSE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
20:57:26 I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS ALONG WITH MY WIFE WITH CRUISE
20:57:27 CELLULARS.
20:57:29 PLANNED WINE BAR IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
20:57:31 YES, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME REPEATING THINGS
20:57:34 THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID.
20:57:38 I WANT TO REITERATE WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BE PART OF
20:57:38 THIS PROJECT.
20:57:41 SOMEBODY WHO LIVES CLOSE AND I USED TO LIVE MUCH
20:57:41 CLOSER.
20:57:43 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD IMAGINE ALL OF THE
20:57:46 RESIDENTS ARE SORELY LOOKING FORWARD TO.
20:57:50 YOU LIVE SO CLOSE TO THE WATER BUT YOU NEVER GET TO SEE
20:57:53 IT AND A FUN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY ENJOY
20:57:54 THE WATERFRONT.
20:57:58 IF I CAN SORT OF ALLAY ANY CONCERNS IN TERMS OF NOISE
20:58:01 OR ROWDINESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
20:58:03 CERTAINLY NOT OUR ATTENTION AS A WINE BAR TO BE
20:58:06 SLINGING SHOTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
20:58:09 THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT LIVE ALL AROUND US ARE PROBABLY
20:58:15 OUR BEST CUSTOMERS AND I HAVE NO INTENTION OF ANNOYING
20:58:16 THEM IN ANY WAY.
20:58:19 I DON'T KNOW SCOTT ONLY BY REPUTATION.
20:58:24 BUT I THINK BOTH OF CUSS SAY WE ARE NOT HERE TO LEACH
20:58:28 -- BOTH OF US, THAT WE ARE NOT HERE TO LEACH OFF THE
20:58:31 SURROUNDING BUT TO BE BENEFICIAL MEMBERS OF THAT
20:58:32 COMMUNITY.
20:58:35 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, BUT I AM VERY
20:58:36 EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
20:58:37 THANK YOU.
20:58:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
20:58:42 ITEM NUMBER 15.
20:58:44 MR. GRANDOFF, ANY REBUTTAL?
20:58:45 I WOULD THINK NOT.
20:58:46 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:58:47 I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.
20:58:49 THIS IS A REMARKABLE PROJECT.
20:58:51 THIS IS VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY.
20:58:53 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
20:58:56 WE WILL ADDRESS THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND IN THE
20:58:59 INTERIM BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING AND BE BACK TO
20:59:01 YOU ON THAT.
20:59:04 >> MR. GRANDOFF, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS PERMISSIBLE AS
20:59:07 THE WAY THE PROCESS IS SET UP BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE
20:59:12 DIRECTED TO STAFF SPECIFICALLY WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL
20:59:15 AND THAT IS NORMALLY DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
20:59:16 READING.
20:59:18 >> PERHAPS WE CAN RECESS FOR A FEW MOMENTS.
20:59:21 WE NEED TO CAUCUS FOR A MOMENT AND SEE WHAT WOULD BE
20:59:22 DOABLE.
20:59:23 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT.
20:59:26 RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
20:59:27 >> THAT'S GOOD.
20:59:29
21:00:10 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS.)
21:00:14
21:00:13 (NO AUDIO)
21:06:11 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, CLOSING AT
21:06:15 11:00 O'CLOCK.
21:06:17 THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, CLOSING AT 1:00.
21:06:22 EXCEPT NAMED CALENDAR HOLIDAYS, WHICH WILL BE REGULATED
21:06:27 BY CHAPTER 14, TO ACCOUNT FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE, CHRISTMAS,
21:06:33 THANKSGIVING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
21:06:35 AND WE WOULD HAVE A CONDITION WRITTEN ACCORDING TO THESE
21:06:43 TERMS.
21:06:44 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
21:06:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT.
21:06:46 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: OKAY.
21:06:48 THAT IS ALL WE HAVE.
21:06:49 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
21:06:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:06:53 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
21:06:55 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:06:58 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:06:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, I PASSED OUT
21:07:03 IF SAMPLE MOTIONS ON THE THIRD PAGE.
21:07:05 HANDOUT IS YOUR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MOTIONS ALONG WITH THE
21:07:08 CRITERIA, IF YOU FEEL NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THAT.
21:07:14 ALSO JUST A REMINDER WITH REGARD TO THE REVISION SHEETS,
21:07:19 THAT WERE SUPPLIED BY MS. DOCK AND ALSO THE HOURS OF
21:07:25 OPERATION AS SUPPLIED BY PETITIONER'S COUNCIL.
21:07:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:07:29 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE?
21:07:31 ANY OPPOSED?
21:07:31 AND I BELIEVE -- OKAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU FEEL
21:07:40 COMFORTABLE TAKING THIS ONE, SIR?
21:07:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:07:48 HERE WE GO.
21:08:01 OKAY.
21:08:02 IN REGARD TO FILE AB 2-19-21, AN ORDINANCE BEING
21:08:10 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
21:08:13 SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
21:08:18 LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES
21:08:21 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
21:08:24 BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
21:08:28 LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF
21:08:31 LAND LOCATED AT 4900 AND 5201 BRIDGE STREET AS WELL AS
21:08:37 5000 AND 5001 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS
21:08:42 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 THAT ALL
21:08:44 ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICTS ARE
21:08:46 REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, SPECIFICALLY
21:08:50 FINDING THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF
21:08:55 REGARDING COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, SPECIAL USE AS
21:08:58 CONDITIONS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED AS WELL AS
21:09:01 THE CONDITIONS AGREED TO, MEET THE STANDARDS OF SECTION
21:09:04 27-129 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE, SPECIFICALLY THIS IS
21:09:13 MORE OR LESS AN ISOLATED PARCEL OF 50-PLUS ACRES, A MIXED
21:09:21 USE DEVELOPMENT, THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
21:09:26 CONTIGUOUS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND ALSO THE
21:09:31 SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AND HOURS OF OPERATION HAVE BEEN
21:09:34 AGREED TO BY MR. GRANDOFF, WHICH IS ON THE RECORD, AND I
21:09:37 BELIEVE -- I AM NOT GOING TO RESTATE IT.
21:09:40 I DON'T KNOW.
21:09:41 DO YOU WANT ME TO RESTATE IT?
21:09:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE REVISION SHEET, TOO, PLEASE.
21:09:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALSO INCLUDING INCORPORATED BY
21:09:49 REFERENCE THE SITE PLAN REVISION SHEET, PAGES 1 AND 2 AS
21:09:54 PROVIDED BY STAFF.
21:09:55 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:09:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:10:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:10:01 ANY OPPOSED?
21:10:02 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
21:10:05 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 17th
21:10:08 AT 9:30 A.M.
21:10:09 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:10:13 MAY I RETRIEVE THE BROCHURES, PLEASE?
21:10:16 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:10:57 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS NUMBER 16.
21:11:01 THE APPLICATION AB 2-19-22.
21:11:04 THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2223 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD,
21:11:09 UNIT 224.
21:11:11 IF AGENT FOR THE APPLICATION IS ANNE POLLACK AND SHE IS
21:11:14 PRESENT.
21:11:14 THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS PDA, PLANNED
21:11:17 DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE, AND THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RMU
21:11:20 100, REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
21:11:23 THE RECOMMENDATION OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE
21:11:26 STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AND WE FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
21:11:28 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
21:11:32 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING SPECIAL USE
21:11:35 APPROVAL TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR
21:11:37 SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
21:11:40 ONLY.
21:11:40 THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 2,826 SQUARE FEET WHICH
21:11:45 CONTAINS 2,252 SQUARE FEET INDOOR AND 5274 SQUARE FEET
21:11:51 OUTDOOR.
21:11:52 THE PROPOSED USE ON THE PROPERTY IS A CIGAR BAR LOUNGE.
21:11:55 THIS PETITION WAS NOT CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE AND THE
21:11:58 PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE ENTIRE SITE IS 5,669 SPACES
21:12:02 AND THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH ALTERNATE DESIGN EXCEPTION
21:12:05 119-165.
21:12:07 THE PETITIONER'S REQUIRED PARKING IF YOU WERE TO
21:12:11 CALCULATE IT SEPARATELY FROM THAT WOULD BE 15 SPACES
21:12:13 WITHIN THIS OVERALL REQUIREMENT.
21:12:14 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
21:12:17 CENTER AND THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250
21:12:20 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.
21:12:22 EXHIBIT C, THE APPLICATION, CERTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT'S
21:12:25 SURVEYOR, STATES THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE
21:12:28 200-FOOT DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.
21:12:30 THE SITE PLAN STATES THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT BE LOCATED
21:12:33 WITHIN A PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE AND THAT ALL
21:12:36 PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT
21:12:40 ON-SITE, A COPY OF THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED
21:12:42 SITE PLAN.
21:12:43 THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS IN CODE STAFF FINDINGS IF FOUND
21:12:47 IT CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA REGULATION
21:12:50 WAS IN A COMMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
21:12:52 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
21:12:54 THEY MET ALL CODE, AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE SPECIFIC
21:12:58 SURVEY FOR THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT AGAIN IS
21:13:01 WITHIN THE BUSINESS CENTER.
21:13:03 IT'S 250 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE LOCATION
21:13:06 ITSELF AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU AS WELL AS
21:13:10 ANY OF THAT.
21:13:10 IT'S ALSO CERTIFIED ON EXHIBIT C.
21:13:13 THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY.
21:13:16 SOME CODE CRITERIA FOR CITY COUNCIL REFERENCE IN
21:13:19 CONSIDERATION COMES FROM SECTION 27-43 WHICH ARE
21:13:21 DEFINITIONS.
21:13:22 THE FIRST DEFINITION IS FOR A SMALL VENUE WHICH IS
21:13:24 DEFINED AS A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT WITH LESS THAN
21:13:27 300-PERSON OCCUPANCY WHICH SALES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
21:13:31 THEIR AB CLASSIFICATION AGAIN IS BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR
21:13:34 FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
21:13:36 THE PROPOSED USE ON THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE A
21:13:38 BAR-LOUNGE.
21:13:39 ALSO SECTION 27-129 GENERAL STANDARDS IS LISTED IN THE
21:13:43 STAFF REPORT FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
21:13:45 AS WELL AS SECTION 27-132 FOR REGULATIONS GOVERNING
21:13:49 INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES.
21:13:50 THAT WOULD GO INTO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS,
21:13:53 AND THE SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS WHICH THIS SITE PLAN DID
21:13:56 MEET.
21:13:57 I HAVE BEFORE YOU THE SITE PLAN, ALSO YOU HAVE A COPY OF
21:14:00 IT.
21:14:01 IT INDICATES THE OUTDOOR AREA AS WELL AS THE INDOOR AREA.
21:14:04 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE INTERNATIONAL MALL, MORE OF THE
21:14:10 NORTH SIDE.
21:14:12 THEREFORE IT WOULD BE NORTH HERE. THIS IS WHERE LIKE THE
21:14:15 CHEESECAKE FACTORY IS AND I WILL SHOW YOU SOME OTHER
21:14:18 PHOTOS.
21:14:19 AND THAT IS A LARGE ESTABLISHMENT.
21:14:21 THIS IS A AERIAL VICINITY MAP SHOWING THE LOCALIZED
21:14:25 ZONING SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
21:14:26 I MADE A LITTLE STAR FOR YOU TO TRY MY BEST TO DETERMINE
21:14:29 WHERE THIS WOULD BE.
21:14:30 AGAIN THE AB SKETCH ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICATION
21:14:33 CERTIFIED THE AB SALES AREA, AND THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE
21:14:36 LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
21:14:38 THE PICTURE TO THE TOP IS THE ACTUAL UNIT THAT SHOWS THE
21:14:41 OUTDOOR AREA.
21:14:44 I WILL GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT PICTURE TO DEFINE IT BETTER
21:14:47 BUT AS WELL AS THIS COVERED AREA.
21:14:49 THE BOTTOM PICTURE IS A BETTER LOCATION OF THE COVERED
21:14:52 AREA.
21:14:53 ON THE SITE PLAN
21:14:56 THE APPLICANT -- V WILL DO A BETTER JOB OF EXPLAINING BUT
21:15:00 IT'S GOING TO EXTEND OUT HERE TO THE FRONT.
21:15:02 THEN THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS -- THERE'S A NEW HABLO TACO
21:15:08 ESTABLISHMENT AS WELL AS NEXT DOOR.
21:15:11 THIS IS A BETTER PICTURE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
21:15:15 THE BOTTOM PICTURE SHOWING THE VIEW SOUTHEAST.
21:15:18 THE TPD REPORT DID COME BACK, AND TAMPA POLICE FOUND NO
21:15:22 OBJECTIONS TO THIS SPECIAL USE REQUEST.
21:15:24 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
21:15:26 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
21:15:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:15:33 APPLICANT.
21:15:33 >> ANNE POLLOCK, FISHER AND FISHER, ST. PETE.
21:15:45 I REPRESENT TAMPA WESTSHORE ASSOCIATES, THE OWNER OF
21:15:48 TAMPA INTERNATIONAL MALL.
21:15:49 WE ARE BACK FOR THIS UNIT 224.
21:15:52 IT USED TO BE BISTRO BUT IT'S CHANGED AND NOW THE KING
21:15:57 CORONA CIGAR LOUNGE WANTS TO COME IN AND BE THERE.
21:16:03 THIS IS A SMALL VENUE, LESS THAN 300 PERSON OCCUPANCY.
21:16:07 WE ARE LOOKING FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION
21:16:10 ON PREMISES ONLY.
21:16:12 THE KING CORONA IS IN YBOR AS YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR
21:16:19 AND THEY ARE EXPANDING TO HAVE A BAR-LOUNGE AT
21:16:22 INTERNATIONAL PLAZA.
21:16:24 NO SALES OF ALCOHOL FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
21:16:27 THEY WILL BE SELLING CIGARS FOR SMOKING THERE, AND FOR
21:16:34 SALES.
21:16:37 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN SORT OF A BACK AREA OF BAY STREET,
21:16:41 SO A LITTLE SEPARATE FROM THE MAIN DRAG, AND I BELIEVE
21:16:50 THEY ARE MOVING THEIR FULL KITCHEN TO THE HUMIDOR.
21:16:55 SO FAR IT REALLY WILL TRULY ACT AS A LOUNGE. THEY PLAN
21:17:00 TO A BID BY ALL APPLICABLE DRINKING AND SMOKING LAWS.
21:17:08 NO WAIVERS ARE BEING REQUESTED.
21:17:10 WE ARE FARTHER THAN 250 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.
21:17:14 IT'S KIND OF AN ISOLATED PARCEL, SO WE FEEL THAT THE
21:17:19 ALCOHOL SALES ARE COMPATIBLE, AND SIMILAR TO OTHER USES
21:17:23 THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED WITHIN THE INTERNATIONAL PLAZA.
21:17:26 COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPLIES WITH ALL
21:17:30 STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE STAFF SUPPORT.
21:17:33 SO I WOULD BE HERE FOR QUESTIONS BUT OTHERWISE I WOULD
21:17:37 ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
21:17:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM -- COUNCILMAN CITRO.
21:17:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
21:17:42 DOES THE MALL REGULATE HOURS OF OPERATION?
21:17:46 >> THEY DO GENERALLY ON A LEASE BY LEASE BASIS.
21:17:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU KNOW WHAT HOURS THIS IS GOING TO
21:17:52 BE REGULATED TO N.
21:17:54 >> I BELIEVE TILL TWO.
21:17:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
21:17:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
21:17:59 NEXT?
21:18:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
21:18:03 COORDINATION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE SITE
21:18:05 PLAN DOES STATE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 WHICH WOULD BE
21:18:08 ABLE TO STAY OPEN TILL 3 A.M.
21:18:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:18:12 IS ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 16?
21:18:14 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
21:18:17 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECONDED
21:18:23 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:18:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:18:26 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 16.
21:18:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER AB 2-19-22.
21:18:37 ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
21:18:40 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR
21:18:42 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
21:18:45 PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
21:18:47 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
21:18:50 ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
21:18:53 2223 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, UNIT B-224, TAMPA,
21:18:58 FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2,
21:19:01 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
21:19:04 CONFLICTS ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
21:19:05 >> SECOND.
21:19:07 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:19:09 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:19:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:19:11 ANY OPPOSED?
21:19:12 >> THE NOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
21:19:14 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 17th
21:19:18 AT 93:07 A.M.
21:19:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
21:19:21 WE MOVE NEXT TO ITEM 17.
21:19:28 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
21:19:30 COORDINATION.
21:19:30 ITEM 17 IS REZ 19-64, REZONING REQUEST FROM RS 30 TO
21:19:35 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
21:19:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
21:19:44 WE ARE IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
21:19:48 THIS IS NORTH ROME AVENUE AND WEST WATROUS, SOUTH OF
21:19:55 SLIGH, IN EVACUATION ZONE D.
21:19:59 ROME AND SLIGH PARK IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET TO
21:20:02 THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS RIGHT HERE.
21:20:06 I HAVE SOME MANUFACTURED HOUSING TO THE SOUTH,
21:20:10 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, AND THEN A CHURCH, AND THE CHURCH
21:20:13 SCHOOL USE LOCATED TO THE NORTH ALONG WEST SLIGH AVENUE.
21:20:20 THE GREEN IS OPEN SPACE.
21:20:21 THAT'S THE PARK.
21:20:22 THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 20.
21:20:26 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 10, WHICH IS THE
21:20:29 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, AND THAT'S THAT ORANGE COLOR.
21:20:31 AND I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE RESIDENTIAL 35 ALONG
21:20:35 WEST SLIGH WHICH IS THE HIGHER MORE INTENSE LAND USE
21:20:38 DESIGNATION FOR LAND USES.
21:20:40 WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
21:20:42 WE DID FIND THAT THE PROPOSED PD WOULD BE IN SIMILAR
21:20:46 FORM, HEIGHT AND SCALE, THIS FURTHERS THE FUTURE LAND USE
21:20:51 DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL 10, FURTHERS ITS INTENT, AND
21:20:55 WE FIND IT DID NOT ALTER THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE
21:20:58 NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:20:58 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
21:21:00 THANK YOU.
21:21:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
21:21:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
21:21:09 COORDINATION.
21:21:09 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
21:21:13 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
21:21:15 THERE IS THE PROPOSED PD SITE PLAN.
21:21:19 AS YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY ZONED RS-50, MINIMUM
21:21:23 LOT SIZE IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT.
21:21:28 EXCUSE ME.
21:21:29 EACH OF THE TWO PROPOSED LOTS ARE 52.5 FEET WIDE.
21:21:33 HOWEVER IT'S ONLY 94 FEET DEEP.
21:21:35 SO INSTEAD OF EACH LOT BEING 5,000 SQUARE FEET, EACH IS
21:21:39 5,435 SQUARE FEET.
21:21:42 SO THERE IS 65 FEET SHORT OF THE RS-50 MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
21:21:47 THEREFORE, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER TONIGHT, THEY DO HAVE
21:21:51 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY CAN CREATE THEIR OWN LOT
21:21:53 SIZE.
21:21:54 THEY ARE PROTECTING A NUMBER OF TREES ON-SITE.
21:21:58 THE PROPOSED HEIGHT AND SETBACK ARE COMPARABLE TO THOSE
21:22:00 OF THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
21:22:03 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
21:22:05 AND THERE IS JUST TWO MINOR CHANGES TO OCCUR BETWEEN
21:22:09 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
21:22:11 FOR INFORMATION THAT NEEDS CLEANED UP ON THE SITE PLAN.
21:22:18 OTHER THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID
21:22:21 FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
21:22:26 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
21:22:28 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
21:22:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS OUT
21:22:33 THERE IN YBOR A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
21:22:40 I AM GOING TO INCH STAFF TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THIS AND
21:22:44 COME BACK TO US WHEN WE DO OUR CHAPTER 27 REVISIONS TO
21:22:46 GIVE -- I'M VERY CAREFUL AND CAUTIOUS TO SAY THIS, BUT I
21:22:50 THINK STAFF SHOULD HAVE SOME DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO
21:22:52 GIVE FOLKS LIKE THIS SOME RELIEF WHEN THEY ARE WITHIN,
21:22:56 LET'S SAY, 5% OF THE NEEDED SQUARE FOOTAGE OR SOMETHING
21:22:59 LIKE THAT.
21:23:00 I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT DISCRETION NOW.
21:23:03 BUT I FEEL FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHO HAVE NOW CEMENT
21:23:07 THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WITH THE PD PROCESS THAT IS REALLY
21:23:13 JUST A MATTER OF INCHES.
21:23:16 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: RIGHT.
21:23:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, THAT'S A COMMENT.
21:23:19 JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.
21:23:20 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: STAFF UNDERSTANDS.
21:23:22 STAFF HAS NO DISCRETION FOR ANY OF THESE MATTERS.
21:23:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL THE BOSS FOLKS LET'S TALK ABOUT
21:23:27 THAT.
21:23:28 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
21:23:34 APPLICANT?
21:23:34 >> NELSON GOMEZ, THE APPLICANT.
21:23:41 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE JUST SHY OF 65 SQUARE FEET.
21:23:46 AND WE REALLY NEED YOUR APPROVAL IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
21:23:52 WE HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF LETTERS WITH THE ACCEPTANCE
21:24:00 OF THE ACTUAL APPROVAL OF NEARBY NEIGHBORS.
21:24:03 I HAVE GOT TWO LETTERS FOR THAT.
21:24:07 THERE'S ALSO -- AND I WILL PUT THIS UP HERE TO SEE IF YOU
21:24:12 CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT.
21:24:20 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
21:24:21 DOWN ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY, BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY, THERE IS
21:24:26 THESE ADDRESSES.
21:24:28 YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S -- WELL, I GOT THREE LOCATIONS
21:24:35 WHERE THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE LOTS ARE WAY
21:24:38 LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
21:24:41 SO I USE THAT AS MORE COMPS.
21:24:46 TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT SPLIT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
21:24:53 OTHERWISE, I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
21:24:56 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
21:24:58 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
21:25:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
21:25:03 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 17?
21:25:06 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
21:25:07 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
21:25:08 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
21:25:10 MIRANDA.
21:25:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN -- ALL IN FAVOR?
21:25:13 ANY OPPOSED?
21:25:14 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU ARE NEXT, SIR.
21:25:16 >> I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
21:25:21 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
21:25:23 GENERAL VICINITY OF 6719 NORTH ROME AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
21:25:27 TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
21:25:29 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 350 RESIDENTIAL
21:25:32 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL
21:25:34 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND
21:25:41 I SEE HERE THAT CITY OF TAMPA STAFF REPORT DID FIND IT
21:25:47 CONSISTENT, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
21:25:54 AND THE PETITIONER HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
21:25:57 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
21:25:59 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:26:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:26:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:26:04 ANY OPPOSED?
21:26:08 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
21:26:11 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 17th
21:26:14 AT 9:30 A.M.
21:26:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CREW.
21:26:18 NEXT WE MOVE TO OUR LAST ITEM.
21:26:22 ITEM NUMBER 19.
21:26:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
21:26:27 COORDINATION.
21:26:28 ITEM 19 IS FOR THE APPLICATION AB 2-19-18 FOR THE
21:26:31 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 456 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
21:26:35 THE APPLICANT FOR THE APPLICATION IS NIKI CHILDS, AND THE
21:26:39 CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
21:26:42 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CMU-35, COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
21:26:46 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
21:26:50 FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA
21:26:52 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
21:26:54 SHOULD YOU APPROVE IT TONIGHT THERE ARE A FEW MINOR
21:26:56 CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN THAT ARE DEPICTED IN THE
21:26:58 STAFF REPORT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADJUSTED BETWEEN FIRST
21:27:03 AND SECOND READING.
21:27:05 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUEST SPECIAL USE APPROVAL
21:27:07 TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR A SMALL
21:27:10 VENUE, BEER AND WINE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE
21:27:13 SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
21:27:15 THE PROPOSED USE IS MICROBREWERY, BAR AND RETAIL SALES.
21:27:19 THIS PETITION WAS CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE FROM THE
21:27:21 ESTABLISHED USE OF RETAIL, AND THE REQUIRED PARKING WAS
21:27:24 CALCULATED BY TOTAL OCCUPANTS TIMES .25.
21:27:28 IF FLOOR PLAN ON THE SECOND SHEET ON THE OVERHEAD AND
21:27:31 PROVIDED TO YOU, THIS WAS CONTINUED BECAUSE THE FLOOR
21:27:37 PLAN DID HAVE TO GET ADJUSTED AND THEY ACTUALLY LOST A
21:27:39 WAIVER BY CONTINUING IT.
21:27:41 AND COMING DOWN IN OCCUPANCY.
21:27:42 SO THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED WAS THE MOST CURRENT FLOOR
21:27:47 PLAN WHICH CAME OUT TO 101 PERSONS FOR LIFE SAFETY PLAN,
21:27:50 EQUALING 25 SPACES.
21:27:52 THE SITE SHOWS 28 PARKING SPACES SO THEY MEET THE PARKING
21:27:56 REQUIREMENT.
21:27:56 THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 5054 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS
21:28:01 INDOOR ONLY.
21:28:02 THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE
21:28:04 AND THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250 FEET FROM
21:28:07 OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
21:28:09 SITE PLAN STATES THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE
21:28:11 CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14, AND THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT
21:28:14 BE LOCATED WITHIN A PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE.
21:28:17 ALSO, THE SITE PLAN STATES ALL PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL
21:28:20 1st, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT ON-SITE A.COPY.
21:28:23 ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN.
21:28:26 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DID FIND IT
21:28:28 INCONSISTENT AND THAT'S DUE TO THE TWO WAIVERS THAT THEY
21:28:30 ARE REQUESTING, ONE COMES FROM SECTION 27-132, AND THAT'S
21:28:35 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION TO OTHER AB
21:28:38 SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 250 FEET TO 60 FEET.
21:28:42 THE SECOND WAIVER COMES FROM SECTION 27-283 POINT 12, AND
21:28:46 THAT'S TO ALLOW THE REDUCTION OF THE 45-DEGREE ANGLE
21:28:49 PARKING DEPTH FROM 17 FEET TO 15 FEET.
21:28:52 PLANNING DESIGN AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FOUND THAT
21:28:55 INCONSISTENT.
21:28:56 THE DISTANCE AGAIN IN THE URBAN VILLAGE IS 250 FEET FROM
21:29:00 OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AND THAT'S 60-FOOT AB
21:29:04 ESTABLISHMENT IS 509 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, THE COLUMBUS
21:29:07 FOOD MART.
21:29:08 THEY HOLD A 1(APS) WHICH IS BEER FOR PACKAGE SALES ONLY.
21:29:12 GENERAL PLANNING AND TRANSIT FINDINGS FOUND THAT HART
21:29:14 ROUTE 7 AS WELL AS HART ROUTE 15 RUN ON BOTH THE NORTH
21:29:18 BOULEVARD AS WELL AS COLUMBUS.
21:29:21 TYPICALLY AROUND 5 A.M. TILL ALMOST 11-MILLIMETER
21:29:24 WEEKENDS, AND THEN ROUGHLY 6 A.M. TO 11 P.M. ON WEEKDAYS.
21:29:29 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN
21:29:31 VILLAGE.
21:29:32 ANDS THE CODE CRITERIA FOR CITY COUNCIL TO REFERENCE AND
21:29:35 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
21:29:37 COMES FROM SECTION 27-43 FOR DEFINITIONS, AND AGAIN THIS
21:29:41 IS A SMALL VENUE WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT WITH
21:29:44 LESS THAN 300 PERSON OCCUPANCY, WHICH SALES ALCOHOLIC
21:29:47 BEVERAGES, AND THEN THE PROPOSED USAGE AS WELL AS THE AB
21:29:50 CLASSIFICATION IS LISTED THERE.
21:29:53 IN THE STAFF REPORT.
21:29:54 ALSO, SECTION 27-129 GENERAL STANDARDS ARE THERE FOR YOUR
21:29:58 REFERENCE.
21:29:58 AND SECTION 27-132 REGULATIONS GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL
21:30:02 SPECIAL USES.
21:30:03 AND THAT'S WHERE THE DISTANCE SEPARATION COMES INTO PLAY
21:30:05 AS WELL AS THE PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE AB SALES,
21:30:08 WHICH THEY STATE THEY WILL NOT HAVE, AND HAVING THE
21:30:10 PERMIT AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 ON-SITE.
21:30:16 AGAIN, THE SITE PLAN I PROVIDED TO YOU SHOWED THE OVERALL
21:30:19 SITE, AB SALES, ALL INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING.
21:30:22 THERE'S NO OTHER USES.
21:30:23 THERE'S NOT A STRIP CENTER SO THE USE ITSELF IS FOR THE
21:30:26 ENTIRE BUILDING.
21:30:28 THEIR PARKING IS LAID OUT, AND THE ANGLE OF PARKING IS
21:30:31 REFERENCING SOME OF THESE PARKING THAT ARE ANGLED, TAKEN
21:30:34 IN THE CODE, BY THE BACKOUT, 15, 17 FEET.
21:30:39 ALSO, THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS YOU THE SURROUNDING ZONING FOR
21:30:42 THE PROPERTY.
21:30:43 OUTLINED IN RED IS JUST THE ZONING PARCEL.
21:30:45 I DID A LITTLE DO IT TO INCLUDE IN MY BLUE OUTLINED AREA
21:30:49 FOR AB SALES.
21:30:50 AGAIN THE AB SKETCH THAT WAS CERTIFIED BY OUR
21:30:53 RIGHT-OF-WAY DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THEIR SURVEYOR TO CUT
21:30:55 OUT A LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THE AB SALES AREA IS
21:30:57 CERTIFIED AND SUPPLIED IN THE APPLICATION.
21:30:59 AS YOU CAN SEE, CG ENCOMPASSES MOST OF THE SURROUNDING
21:31:04 PROPERTIES.
21:31:04 TOTAL SOUTH, THERE IS RM 16 WHICH IS FOR YOUR REVIEW.
21:31:08 THIS RESIDENTIAL USE WAS NOT TRIGGERED AS A DISTANCE
21:31:11 SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.
21:31:13 THE TOP PICTURE IS THE SUBJECT SITE, THE FRONT OF THE
21:31:17 FACADE.
21:31:18 BOTTOM PICK FUR EAST SIDE IS SUBJECT SITE.
21:31:20 TO IS THE EAST NEIGHBOR WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL USE.
21:31:24 WEST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE LOOKING SOUTH DOWN NORTH
21:31:27 BOULEVARD.
21:31:29 TOP IS THE REAR.
21:31:30 THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ALLEY IN THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
21:31:32 SO THAT'S ALL THE PARKING THAT'S CURRENTLY FENCED OFF.
21:31:37 AND THIS IS LOOKING MORE OF A WEST DIRECTION DOWN THE
21:31:40 ALLEY, ALSO KIND OF SHOWS THE ESTABLISHMENT AND THEN THE
21:31:43 RESIDENTIAL OVER HERE.
21:31:47 THAT IS THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR WHICH IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
21:31:52 AND TO THE NORTH, 509 WEST COLUMBUS IS THE CLOSEST
21:31:57 ESTABLISHMENT, DIRECTLY NORTH FROM THIS PROPERTY ACROSS
21:31:59 FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
21:32:00 TOP PICTURE IS A WEST VIEW.
21:32:03 BOTTOM PICTURE IS THE EAST VIEW OF COLUMBUS DRIVE.
21:32:06 THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE STAFF
21:32:08 REPORT IS THE MINOR CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND REED
21:32:12 READING.
21:32:13 A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO BE MADE IN THE SITE DATA.
21:32:17 AND TPD FOUND NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS Q.STAFF IS AVAILABLE
21:32:19 NOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
21:32:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
21:32:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
21:32:24 >> I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN.
21:32:40 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CREW, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.
21:32:42 ANYONE ELSE WHO HASN'T BEEN SWORN IN THAT PLANS ON
21:32:45 SPEAKING?
21:32:45 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
21:32:48 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:32:56 MAT POLLING, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 2700.
21:33:00 I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.
21:33:02 I DON'T WANT TO KEEP US HERE PAST MIDNIGHT.
21:33:05 MY CLIENTS HERE, THEY WANT A MICROBREWERY.
21:33:09 THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF COLUMBUS AND BOULEVARD.
21:33:16 I WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
21:33:20 HERE IS THE INTERSECTION LOOKING AT THIS BUILDING.
21:33:25 IT DATES BACK TO THE 20s.
21:33:27 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A LONG
21:33:30 TIME.
21:33:32 THIS IS FROM 2014.
21:33:36 BUT UP UNTIL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED
21:33:40 LIKE.
21:33:41 NO WINDOWS.
21:33:44 VACANT BUILDING.
21:33:46 IN CONNECTION WITH MY CLIENT'S PROPOSAL, THE WHOLE
21:33:53 FRONTAGE ON COLUMBUS NOW HAS WINDOWS AND DOORS.
21:34:01 THE BUILDING HAS BEEN PAINTED.
21:34:04 SO MAKING SOME GOOD CHANGES HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:34:07 WE ALSO HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM BOTH THE TAMPA
21:34:10 HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE PARK CRIME PREVENTION
21:34:14 AND CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
21:34:22 AS RYAN NOTED, ONE OF OUR WAIVERS IS THE DISTANCE
21:34:32 SEPARATION.
21:34:35 WE HAVE A COUPLE EXISTING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
21:34:38 ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN 250 FEET.
21:34:41 THE CLOSEST BEING COLUMBUS FOOD MART RIGHT ACROSS THE
21:34:44 STREET FROM US.
21:34:45 AND THE SECOND WAIVER, AGAIN AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS AN
21:34:52 EXISTING SITE DATING BACK TO THE 20s.
21:34:57 THE PARKING LOT, WE HAVE GOT SOME DIAGONAL SPACES THAT
21:35:01 DON'T COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE.
21:35:03 WE HAVE A DEPTH OF 15 FEET.
21:35:04 CODE REQUIRES 17 FEET.
21:35:06 AND WE WOULD NOTE THAT OUR DRIVE AISLE HERE IS 19 FEET,
21:35:14 WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN SO WE DON'T BELIEVE
21:35:19 THERE'S REALLY ANY ISSUE WITH THIS THANKING BEING
21:35:24 SLIGHTLY SUBSTANDARD.
21:35:26 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
21:35:27 I HAVE NIKI AND AARON CHILD WHO ARE HERE TO TELL YOU
21:35:34 ABOUT THEIR BEER, TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT.
21:35:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:35:40 ANY QUESTIONS?
21:35:42 YES, SIR.
21:35:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL US THE LANDMARK NAME OF THIS
21:35:47 BUILDING.
21:35:48 COME ON.
21:35:49 NIKI?
21:35:51 I THINK MOST OF US KNOW.
21:36:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LINDLER?
21:36:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT USED TO BE COX GROCERY.
21:36:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A GROCERY STORE?
21:36:14 I STAND CORRECTED.
21:36:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:36:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MLK, BACK IN THE DAY.
21:36:27 >> I'M ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT.
21:36:38 MY NAME IS NIKI CHILDS.
21:36:40 AND I AM THE CEO AND CO-FOUNDER OF WOVEN BREWERY COMPANY.
21:36:45 I WON'T TAKE UP MORE OF YOUR TIME.
21:36:49 IT'S REALLY LATE AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT'S
21:36:51 ALREADY BEEN SAID SO I AM GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT VERY
21:36:53 SHORT.
21:36:54 WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE TRULY HOPE TO CREATE A THIRD SPACE
21:36:56 FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, AND OTHER CRAFT BEER GOERS IN
21:37:01 THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
21:37:03 CRAFT BEER IS WOVEN WATER, AND WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT ONCE
21:37:07 WE GET OUR BREWERY OPERATING, WE NOT ONLY INTEND TO WEAVE
21:37:12 QUALITY AND CARE IN THE PRODUCTS WE OFFER, BUT ALSO WEAVE
21:37:15 OURSELVES INTO WORLD OF COMMUNITY WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY
21:37:18 BEGUN TO DO WITH OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE SHOW OF SUPPORT.
21:37:22 WHEN WE STARTED OUR PROPERTY SEARCH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
21:37:25 WE ORIGINALLY WERE LOOKING AT THE VACANT PROPERTY ACROSS
21:37:27 THE STREET ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
21:37:29 BUT FOUND THIS PROPERTY TO BE A BETTER FIT FOR THE
21:37:33 PROJECT.
21:37:34 AND IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
21:37:38 THROUGH PLANNING FOR THE SITE, WE WERE LOOKING AT AN
21:37:41 ADDITIONAL WAIVER AS STATED BUT WE NOW HAVE MORE PARKING
21:37:52 SPOTS THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
21:37:55 WE RECEIVED OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM BOTH THE TAMPA
21:37:57 HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE RIDGEWOOD PARK CRIME
21:38:00 PREVENTION AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
21:38:02 IN FACT, BOTH ASSOCIATIONS HAVE SUBMITTED FORMAL LETTERS
21:38:06 OF SUPPORT FOR OUR APPLICATION.
21:38:08 WE FEEL THAT THIS LOCATION COULD POTENTIALLY SPUR
21:38:11 POSITIVE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY,
21:38:14 AS STUDIES HAVE SHOWN ACROSS THE NATION, LOCALLY, HIDDEN
21:38:19 SPRINGS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT
21:38:22 ON FRANKLIN STREET, AS WELL AS BAY CANNON BEER COMPANY ON
21:38:27 MAIN STREET.
21:38:28 WOVEN WATER BREWING COMPANY HOPES TO BECOME A WELCOME
21:38:31 ADDITION AS HIDDEN SPRINGS AND BAY CANNON HAVE TO THEIR
21:38:34 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT
21:38:36 IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT CORNER.
21:38:38 FOR US, THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS REALIZATION OF A
21:38:41 LONG-HELD DREAM, AND IT WOULD BE SO WONDERFUL FOR US TO
21:38:44 SEE IT GETTING CLOSER TO IT BECOMING REALITY.
21:38:47 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
21:38:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
21:38:51 ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE APPLICANT?
21:38:55 WE'LL GET THERE, SIR.
21:38:56 ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE APPLICANT?
21:38:57 NOTHING.
21:38:58 OKAY.
21:38:59 NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU ARE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT
21:39:01 ON ITEM 19.
21:39:02 SIR, YOU MAY COME FORWARD IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK.
21:39:05 THREE MINUTES.
21:39:06 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
21:39:07 >> MY NAME IS HUGO.
21:39:12 I LIVE AT RIDGEWOOD HEIGHTS ACROSS THE STREET BASICALLY
21:39:17 FROM THE BREWERY.
21:39:18 I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
21:39:22 I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:39:25 I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW AND I
21:39:27 HAVE SEEN THIS CORNER VACANT, SO I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY TO
21:39:34 SEE THE WINDOWS COMING UP.
21:39:36 SO I'M HOPING YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE IT.
21:39:41 THANK YOU.
21:39:41 >>LUIS VIERA: AND MR. HUGO, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME?
21:39:44 >> TUMEREZ.
21:39:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:39:48 OKAY.
21:39:49 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
21:39:52 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
21:39:54 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:39:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:39:57 ANY OPPOSED?
21:40:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU WOULD LIKE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
21:40:06 IN CASE AB 2-19-18.
21:40:10 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
21:40:12 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
21:40:15 PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE
21:40:19 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES IN PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES
21:40:22 CONSUMPTION MAKING -- AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER
21:40:27 AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF
21:40:32 LAND LOCATED AT 456 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
21:40:38 AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING
21:40:40 THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
21:40:44 ARE REPEALED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; INCLUDING THE
21:40:49 WAIVERS -- REDUCTION FROM OTHER AB SALES FROM 250 TO 60
21:40:57 AND PARKING DEPTH FROM 17 FEET TO 15 FEET, ALL AB SALES
21:41:03 SITE PLAN SHOWS COMPLIANCE.
21:41:05 HOWEVER, THERE ARE MINOR CORRECTIONS THAT WILL BE NEEDED
21:41:08 TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
21:41:13 >> SECOND.
21:41:15 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECONDED BY
21:41:17 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:41:18 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:41:19 ANY OPPOSED?
21:41:19 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
21:41:21 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON OCTOBER 17th
21:41:24 AT 9:30 A.M.
21:41:26 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
21:41:26 WE GO TO MOTIONS.
21:41:28 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
21:41:31 NOTHING.
21:41:32 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:41:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
21:41:37 WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2019.
21:41:41 THAT'S SCHEDULED TO ADOPT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY
21:41:44 OF TAMPA FY 20, FY 24 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION CIS
21:41:50 SCHEDULED PROJECTS ON OCTOBER 24, 2019 AT 5:01.
21:41:54 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ADVISED ME THAT DUE TO A
21:41:56 SCHEDULING CONFLICT AND UNAVAILABILITY OF THE PRESENTER,
21:42:01 IT IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE THIS ADOPTION HEARING TO
21:42:03 NOVEMBER 14th, 2019 AT 5:01.
21:42:06 >> SECOND.
21:42:08 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:42:09 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
21:42:12 ANY OPPOSED?
21:42:13 THANK YOU, SIR.
21:42:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.
21:42:16 BEFORE I GO HOME AND ENJOY MY GAME BOY.
21:42:24 >> I HOPE YOU HAVE FOUR DOUBLE A BATTERIES.
21:42:27 >> YES, I DO. AND STREAM THE HAND MAID'S TALE ON HULU
21:42:27 ALL WHILE READING CHUCK FRAGO'S ARTICLE ON MY HAND-HELD
21:42:35 DEVICE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL
21:42:38 INVITE BETH ALDEN FROM THE MPO TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF
21:42:44 THE 2045 LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN ALLOWING HER 15
21:42:49 MINUTES TO PRESENT ON OCTOBER 3rd AT 9:00 A.M.
21:42:53 MR. CHAIR, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
21:42:56 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
21:42:58 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:42:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:43:00 ALL OPPOSED?
21:43:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING ELSE.
21:43:03 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
21:43:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE LAST ONE WE JUST APPROVED
21:43:07 THERE ON COLUMBUS AND BOULEVARD, WHEN WE MOM WAS A LITTLE
21:43:10 GIRL AND WEPT TO SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET AT VILLA MADONNA,
21:43:17 SHE WOULD VISIT AT COX DRUGSTORE, A LITTLE FAMILY OWNED
21:43:21 PLACE.
21:43:21 SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT, THAT WE APPROVED THAT BECAUSE
21:43:24 THAT WHOLE AREA, THOSE CORNERS, THE GAS STATION ACROSS
21:43:27 THE STREET, THE OTHER GAS STATION IS BEING REDONE, AND
21:43:31 WITH THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WE APPROVED SOME TOWNHOUSE
21:43:33 DEVELOPMENTS THERE.
21:43:34 SO I AM GLAD TO SEE ALONG WITH ARMATURE WORKS DOWN THE
21:43:37 ROAD THAT AREA AFTER SO MANY YEARS OF NEGLECT.
21:43:40 THAT'S IT.
21:43:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
21:43:44 EARLIER.
21:43:45 THERE WERE TWO MOTIONS I MADE EARLIER IN THE YEAR ALREADY
21:43:47 IN REFERENCE TO AN ORDINANCE, AND ALSO A REENTRY
21:43:52 ORDINANCE.
21:43:52 APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION OF STAFF, A WORKSHOP.
21:43:56 I WANT TO MAKE THAT CORRECTLY STATED.
21:44:01 I WANT TO AMEND A PREVIOUS MOTION REGARDING CREATION OF A
21:44:03 REENTRY ORDINANCE.
21:44:04 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP INSTEAD OF A STAFF REPORT
21:44:07 CURRENTLY SET FOR 10-24, STAFF REPORT.
21:44:10 >> SECOND.
21:44:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:44:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:44:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:44:16 ANY OPPOSED?
21:44:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND A
21:44:20 PREVIOUS MOTION MADE ON 8-22 REGARDING ORDINANCE TO
21:44:23 SCHEDULE AS A WORKSHOP FOR 1-30, 2020.
21:44:29 JANUARY 30, 2020.
21:44:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY 30th OF 2020, A WORKSHOP
21:44:34 DAY.
21:44:36 WOULD YOU WANT THAT SCHEDULED THEN -- IS IT PRESENTLY
21:44:39 SCHEDULED AT ALL OR NOT ON THE AGENDA?
21:44:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS NOT SCHEDULED BUT I KNOW WE HAD
21:44:44 TALKED ABOUT THAT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ON THE 31ST.
21:44:46 APPARENTLY IT WASN'T.
21:44:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN GUDES, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAD
21:44:53 SOMETHING SCHEDULED FOR 9:00, 9:30.
21:44:56 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SCHEDULE IT FOR 10?
21:44:59 >> THAT'S FINE.
21:45:00 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:45:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:45:03 OPPOSED?
21:45:04 ANYTHING ELSE?
21:45:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:45:07 I THINK I AM GOING TO CODIFY MY EARLIER COMMENTS AND
21:45:13 REQUEST THAT THE LEGAL AND PLANNING STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT
21:45:16 THIS ISSUE OF FOLKS WHO FALL JUST A LITTLE BIT SHORT OF
21:45:21 THEIR ZONING.
21:45:24 MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT PERHAPS 5%.
21:45:30 AND THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE
21:45:33 REVIEW AND A STAFF REVIEW THAT FOLKS COULD GO AHEAD AND
21:45:38 BE ABLE TO BUILD AND DEVELOP IF THEY ARE WITHIN 5% OF THE
21:45:43 TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OR SPECIFIC DIMENSIONS OF A LOT.
21:45:48 I KNOW WE USED TO HAVE THAT RULE A LONG TIME AGO.
21:45:51 I DON'T THINK IT WAS 5% I.CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE
21:45:54 PERCENTAGE WAS.
21:45:54 DO YOU REMEMBER, CHARLEY?
21:45:57 BUT ANYWAY, THEN THE RULE GOT WIPED OUT.
21:46:00 NOW WE ARE IN THIS VERY STRICT ENVIRONMENT THAT SAYS YOU
21:46:02 HAVE GOT TO TOE THE LINE AND THAN EXACT, OR YOU HAVE GOT
21:46:06 TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON A PD.
21:46:08 AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY FAIR EITHER.
21:46:10 SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE MOTION.
21:46:12 STAFF AND LEGAL COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND COME BACK,
21:46:16 LET'S SAY, THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
21:46:19 WHAT'S THAT, JIM?
21:46:22 19th?
21:46:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER ACTUALLY IS
21:46:29 THE 21st AND IT LOOKS LIGHT.
21:46:33 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:46:34 >>THE CLERK: JIM CREW, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
21:46:37 I COULD ASK THAT THE MOTION BE STATED IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR
21:46:39 THE RECORD?
21:46:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
21:46:42 STAFF AND -- PLANNING STAFF AND LEGAL TAKE A LOOK AT
21:46:48 DRAFTING A CODE REVISION, CHAPTER 27 CODE REVISION, THAT
21:46:53 WOULD ADDRESS PERHAPS PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE WHEREIN 5
21:47:01 PERCENT OF A SPECIFIC DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA OF A ZONING
21:47:09 CODE, THAT IT WOULD BECOME AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS
21:47:13 INSTEAD OF A REZONING PROCESS.
21:47:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER AMENDING THAT
21:47:19 MOTION TO ALLOW A STAFF REPORT FOR RECOMMENDATIONS,
21:47:22 BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE WOULD PROBABLY FALL INTO YOUR CYCLE,
21:47:28 TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.
21:47:29 AND I WOULD HAVE THEM COME BACK ON THAT DATE WITH AN
21:47:33 ORDINANCE, RATHER TO HAVE THEM COME BACK WITH A
21:47:35 RECOMMENDATION.
21:47:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DON'T WANT TO MISS A CYCLE.
21:47:38 DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHEN THE CYCLE IS?
21:47:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE IT'S IN JANUARY.
21:47:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, THAT WILL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME.
21:47:43 SO JUST A STAFF REPORT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING THAT
21:47:46 AND WHAT THEY MIGHT RECOMMEND.
21:47:47 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
21:47:49 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
21:47:50 ANY OPPOSED?
21:47:51 OKAY.
21:47:51 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
21:47:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, THANK YOU.
21:47:55 >>LUIS VIERA: AND SOMETHING HAPPENED THIS MORNING.
21:47:56 I WANT TO MOTION FOR CITY ATTORNEY GINA GRIMES TO REPORT
21:48:00 TO US NEXT WEEK FIRST ON THE AGENDA, I THINK IT WOULD BE,
21:48:04 ON COUNCIL'S LEGAL AUTHORITIES FOR THE PROPOSED
21:48:07 RESOLUTION ON ASSAULT WEAPONS.
21:48:09 AND GO INTO A VERY BRIEF BACKGROUND.
21:48:12 THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
21:48:14 OFFICE AND I WANT TO MAKE YEAR TO MY COLLEAGUES IS THAT
21:48:17 BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THIS ISSUE, WE DID OUR DUE
21:48:20 DILIGENCE, CHECKING WITH MR. SHELBY, GOING IN-DEPTH WITH
21:48:25 MS. GRIMES, BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER GO FORWARD WITH
21:48:28 SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT DOING DUE DILIGENCE, NOT JUST
21:48:31 FOR MY SAKE OR SAKE OF STAFF BUT FOR THE SAKE OF CITY
21:48:35 COUNCIL.
21:48:35 SO THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE THAT HI WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR.
21:48:38 AND I THINK MS. GRAHAMS WILL ENLIGHTEN US IN THAT REGARD.
21:48:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
21:48:44 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
21:48:47 ANY DISCUSSION IN NO?
21:48:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:48:49 OH, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
21:48:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN OF TAMPA CITY
21:48:53 COUNCIL.
21:48:54 AND WE ALL MAKE MOTIONS.
21:48:56 SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET A LOT OF CLARITY SOMETIMES.
21:49:00 AND SOMETIMES DURING THAT PROCESS WE LEARN DIFFERENT
21:49:05 THINGS.
21:49:05 I THINK IT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE TODAY.
21:49:07 I THINK A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S
21:49:10 A BIG PROBLEM, ALL YOUR FAULT.
21:49:13 I JUST THINK SOME THINGS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, HEY, IT'S
21:49:18 A GOOD SUGGESTION YOU BROUGHT FORWARD.
21:49:21 COME BACK AND GO FROM THERE.
21:49:22 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT.
21:49:23 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THAT I MOAT LEGALLY WITH
21:49:30 APPROPRIATE COUNSEL BECAUSE OF RAMIFICATIONS OF LARGER
21:49:34 STEPS JUST TO SET FOLKS' MIND AT EASE.
21:49:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
21:49:41 >> WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
21:49:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LIKE I WAS ALLUDING TO THIS MORNING,
21:49:45 THE GOOD NEWS IS I WAS READING A BRIEF.
21:49:47 THE GOOD NEWS IS THE COURT UP IN TALLAHASSEE RULED ON
21:49:50 THAT PREEMPTION, ESPECIALLY ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF
21:49:55 THE PREEMPTION, YOU KNOW, MADE A REALLY STRONG ORDER IN
21:49:59 FAVOR OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BASICALLY SAYING THAT THE
21:50:03 PENALTIES THAT THE LEGISLATURE PUT INTO PLACE ARE
21:50:06 UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
21:50:07 SO LET'S HOPE THAT THE HIGHER COURTS UPHOLD THAT AS IT
21:50:11 GOES FURTHER.
21:50:12 RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR BECAUSE IT WAS
21:50:14 ONLY DISTRICT COURT.
21:50:15 >>THE CLERK: MR. CHAIRMAN, TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT IS FOR
21:50:19 A STAFF REPORT NEXT WEEK?
21:50:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
21:50:21 YES, SIR.
21:50:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS TO WHERE WITHIN THE AGENDA DO YOU
21:50:24 WISH TO HAVE THAT?
21:50:27 AFTER THE CEREMONIAL OR PRIOR TO?
21:50:31 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO PRIOR TO.
21:50:34 SHE'S A BUSY LADY.
21:50:35 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
21:50:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN
21:50:43 FAVOR?
21:50:44 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I ASKED LEGAL TO COME BACK, AND I THINK
21:50:47 THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE COMPLEXITY OF TIME ON WITH AN
21:50:50 ISSUE OF CONTRACTING, AND PRISONS, ET CETERA.
21:50:54 I AM GOING TO REMOVE THAT, IF I MAY, AND JUST COME BACK
21:50:57 WITH THAT AT A LATER TIME.
21:51:00 NOVEMBER 7th, THANK YOU.
21:51:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA
21:51:06 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
21:51:10 ALL RIGHT.
21:51:11 RECEIVE AND FILE?
21:51:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
21:51:15 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
21:51:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:51:19 OPPOSED?
21:51:20 >> COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
21:51:23 (MEETING ADJOURNED)
21:51:26
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