CITY OF TAMPA WORKSHOPS
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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09:02:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:02:39 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME MR. JOEL BARNUM, THE
09:02:43 PRESIDENT OF THE NORTHEAST COMMUNITY CIVIC ASSOCIATION,
09:02:44 TO DO THE INVOCATION.
09:02:47 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
09:02:50 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:02:50 THANK YOU.
09:02:58 >> ETERNAL GOD OUR FATHER WE COME THIS MORNING, GOD, TO
09:03:01 GIVE YOU THANKS.
09:03:02 WE THANK YOU, GOD FOR ALL THINGS.
09:03:07 GOD, WE ASK YOU TO ANOINT AND BLESS THIS MEETING, OUR
09:03:11 CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP, OUR MAYOR, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT,
09:03:15 WE ASK BLESSINGS UPON THEM.
09:03:17 ALL OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS.
09:03:20 THEN, LORD, WE ASK YOU TO ANOINT OUR EFFORTS THAT WE
09:03:23 COLLECTIVELY COME TOGETHER, DO THE WILL OF YOUR WILL THAT
09:03:28 WE WOULD MAKE THIS A BETTER COMMUNITY OF ALL THOSE
09:03:32 INVOLVED, IMPACTED.
09:03:34 GIVE US ALL THAT YOU NEED BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU HAVE ALL
09:03:36 POWER IN YOUR HAND AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DO ALL THINGS.
09:03:39 WE'RE ASKING FOR SPECIAL BLESSING FOR ALL OF US THIS
09:03:42 MORNING IN LORD OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.
09:03:44 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:03:44 >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:04:04 >> DINGFELDER?
09:04:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:04:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:10 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:04:11 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:04:12 WE BEGIN WITH OUR COMMENDATION FOR POLICE OFFICER OF THE
09:04:16 MONTH, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:04:18 I WANTED TO INFORM COUNCIL AS WELL THAT FOR ITEM NUMBER
09:04:21 8, WE HAVE CHIEF DUGAN HERE, WHO HAS A FLIGHT OUT TODAY.
09:04:25 WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING NUMBER 8 AFTER THE POLICE
09:04:27 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:04:29 YES, SIR.
09:04:31 >>BILL CARLSON: FOR ITEM NUMBER 16, I HAVE THE DEAN OF
09:04:36 THE USF COLLEGE OF BUSINESS HERE.
09:04:39 IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MOVE THAT UP.
09:04:41 HE ALSO HAS TO LEAVE.
09:04:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE CAN
09:04:45 DO THAT.
09:04:46 WE'LL CHECK WITH THE TWO COMMENDATIONS AFTER CHIEF DUGAN
09:04:49 AND YOUR INDIVIDUAL.
09:04:50 WE CAN DO THAT.
09:04:53 YES, SIR.
09:04:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE WE GOOD?
09:04:57 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:05:02 WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE POLICE
09:05:04 OFFICER OF THE MONTH, AND THAT IS OFFICER STANLEY
09:05:07 MERCHANT.
09:05:08 HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO STEP ASIDE AND LET CHIEF DUGAN
09:05:12 DESCRIBE THE REASON WHY THIS OFFICER IS DESERVED OF THIS
09:05:16 COMMENDATION.
09:05:16 CHIEF?
09:05:18 >>BRIAN DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:05:19 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:05:20 BRIAN DUGAN, YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE.
09:05:23 TODAY -- STANLEY, COME UP HERE.
09:05:25 13-YEAR VETERAN, STANLEY MERCHANT.
09:05:28 STANLEY REALLY IS TRULY ONE OF THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST WE
09:05:30 HAVE AT TPD.
09:05:32 HE'S GOT A PHENOMENAL CAN-DO ATTITUDE, GREAT PERSONALITY.
09:05:37 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT SAYS ANYTHING BAD
09:05:40 ABOUT HIM.
09:05:40 I'M SURE WE CAN PROBABLY FIND SOMEBODY.
09:05:43 I JOKE, BUT HE REALLY HAS A POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND GETS
09:05:46 THINGS DONE.
09:05:47 STANLEY WAS RECENTLY TASKED WITH FINDING AND SECURING A
09:05:50 NEW TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT MOBILE COMMAND POST, WHICH IS
09:05:53 VERY IMPORTANT FOR US WITH ALL THE PARADES, THE DIFFERENT
09:05:56 FUNCTIONS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOOTBALL GAMES TO OUR
09:06:01 HURRICANE RESPONSE, AND IT'S A BIG TASK.
09:06:04 WE INCLUDED PART OF -- IT COMES ON A SEMITRUCK CHASSIS
09:06:08 AND DIESEL ENGINE AND DIESEL GENERATOR.
09:06:11 SO IT HAS ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON IT.
09:06:13 IT'S REALLY NOT THE FORTE OF POLICE OFFICERS, BUT STANLEY
09:06:18 DIVED INTO THE WHOLE THING AND WAS REALLY ABLE TO PUT THE
09:06:21 WHOLE THING TOGETHER.
09:06:22 THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE TASKS HE DID.
09:06:24 HE WORKED ON THE PROJECT FOR ALMOST A YEAR.
09:06:29 HE HAD TO LEARN THE CITY BIDDING AND PROCESSES.
09:06:32 NOT A SIMPLE THING.
09:06:33 HE TOOK CHARGE AND OWNED THAT PROJECT.
09:06:36 IT'S ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT HE WORKED ON FOR US.
09:06:39 WE FINALLY TOOK POSSESSION OF THE COMMAND POST PAST
09:06:44 SEPTEMBER.
09:06:46 RIGHT AS WE HAD HURRICANE DORIAN, I THINK IT ARRIVED A
09:06:50 FEW WEEKS BEFORE THAT, SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR US.
09:06:53 STANLEY CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN HIS DAILY WORK AT A HIGH
09:06:56 LEVEL.
09:06:57 THIS INCLUDED PREPARING THE AMALIE ARENA FOR THE NATIONAL
09:07:01 HOCKEY LEAGUE SEASON BY CREATING A TABLETOP EXERCISE.
09:07:04 THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT, WE HAVE SO MANY
09:07:08 DIFFERENT FACETS THAT WORK AT AMALIE ARENA.
09:07:11 EVERYBODY KNOWS THE THREAT OF TERRORISM THAT WE'RE UNDER,
09:07:16 BUT JUST SIMPLE THINGS LIKE HOW DO YOU EVACUATE A
09:07:19 BUILDING WHEN THERE'S 20,000 PEOPLE IN THERE.
09:07:22 STANLEY CAME UP WITH A TABLETOP EXERCISE TO LOOK AT
09:07:26 DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCENARIOS.
09:07:27 GOT ALL THE CITY ENTITIES INVOLVED, THE NATIONAL HOCKEY
09:07:30 LEAGUE.
09:07:31 GOT THE TEAM MANAGEMENT AND EVERYTHING.
09:07:33 IT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY THINGS.
09:07:35 HE ALSO SERVES AS THE TAMPA POLICE MEMORIAL COMMITTEE.
09:07:38 HE SHOWED HIS LEADERSHIP SKILLS JUST IN OUR RECENT
09:07:41 MEMORIAL RUN OF TRYING TO GET STREET SHUTDOWN AND ALL THE
09:07:44 FACETS THAT GO INTO THAT.
09:07:46 IN RECOGNITION OF HIS CAN-DO ATTITUDE AND THE CONTAGIOUS
09:07:51 WORK ETHIC THAT HE HAS, WE'RE HONORING STANLEY MERCHANT
09:07:54 AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR OCTOBER 2019.
09:07:56 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:08:07 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
09:08:08 PBA PRESIDENT DARLA PORTMAN, VICE PRESIDENT JIMMY OWENS,
09:08:10 SECRETARY APRIL LARSON.
09:08:13 WE'RE HERE TODAY TO HONOR STANLEY FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT
09:08:16 JOB.
09:08:16 THE PBA IS PROUD OF HIM.
09:08:19 HE'S ALSO ONE OF OUR MEMBERS.
09:08:20 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A
09:08:22 GREAT JOB AND WE BACK YOU UP 110%.
09:08:25 ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, PETE BREVY COULDN'T BE HERE.
09:08:33 HERE ARE TICKETS FOR YOUR FAMILY.
09:08:38 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:08:42 I'M JEFF HAUCK.
09:08:46 I'M A MARKETING AND PR MANAGER FOR THE COLUMBIA
09:08:46 RESTAURANT GROUP.
09:08:47 ON BEHALF OF THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP AND ITS 1,000
09:08:50 EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE GONZMART FAMILY AND ITS FIVE
09:08:53 GENERATIONS, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK
09:08:55 YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BESTOW WITH YOU
09:08:58 A $115 GIFT CARD TO ENJOY AT THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT.
09:09:02 115 SIGNIFIES THE 115th ANNIVERSARY THAT WE'LL
09:09:08 CELEBRATE THIS DECEMBER.
09:09:10 THANK YOU.
09:09:11 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:09:12 MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:09:17 I'D LIKE TO WISH TODD A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
09:09:21 I WON'T CALL HIM OUT ON AGE, BUT HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE 50,
09:09:25 BUT HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODD STEPP.
09:09:29 CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
09:09:31 WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU A BASS PRO GIFT CARD AND NIGHT
09:09:34 OUT IN OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE.
09:09:36 SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE BUSY.
09:09:38 TAKE SOME TIME OFF AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
09:09:42 >> THANK YOU.
09:09:43 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:09:45 CARLOS RAMOS WITH THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY
09:09:47 AUTHORITY, AN OFFICER ON BEHALF OF YOUR SERVICE TO OUR
09:09:50 CITY AND ON BEHALF OF TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY
09:09:53 AUTHORITY, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A GOODIE BAG.
09:09:55 IN IT IS A $50 GIFT CARD TO APPLEBEE'S.
09:10:01 ENJOY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:10:05 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:10:05 MARY LOU BAILEY, HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA AT LOWRY
09:10:09 PARK.
09:10:10 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:10:11 WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT.
09:10:13 I'M A RESIDENT OF HYDE PARK.
09:10:14 IN THE THICK OF THE GASPARILLA CRAZINESS.
09:10:16 I LIKE THIS NEW MOBILE UNIT.
09:10:18 IT SOUNDS GREAT.
09:10:19 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL OF YOUR
09:10:22 TEAMMATES HERE.
09:10:23 WE'RE PRESENTING YOU WITH A FAMILY MINUTE TO ZOO TAMPA.
09:10:27 IT'S GOOD FOR A YEAR.
09:10:29 CREATURES OF THE NIGHT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
09:10:31 FUN HALLOWEEN NIGHT.
09:10:33 I WENT LAST WEEKEND.
09:10:34 IT WAS A BLAST.
09:10:35 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ENJOY.
09:10:37 >> THANK YOU.
09:10:39 >> GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:10:41 I'M BOB CONIGLIARO AND THIS IS DUSTIN PORTILLO, CASPERS
09:10:46 COMPANY MCDONALD'S RESTAURANTS.
09:10:50 WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU AND THE JOB YOU HAVE DONE TO
09:10:52 SUPPORT US AND THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR PEERS HERE TO HONOR
09:10:57 YOU TODAY.
09:10:57 WE'VE GOT A FEW TOKENS FROM CASPERS COMPANY MCDONALD'S
09:10:59 AND GIFT CERTIFICATES AND TCHOTCHKES FOR SOME KIDS AND
09:11:09 SOME GIVEAWAYS AND SO FORTH.
09:11:09 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:11:10 >> THANK YOU.
09:11:12 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:11:13 FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
09:11:17 OFFICER MERCHANT, ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR
09:11:21 ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE A TRADITION AT ONE BUC WHERE
09:11:23 WE HAND OUT GAME BALLS FOR THOSE WHO GO OVER AND ABOVE.
09:11:27 HEARING YOUR STORY, YOU'RE DEFINITELY DESERVING OF THIS
09:11:30 GAME BALL.
09:11:31 CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
09:11:34 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:11:37 >> THANK YOU.
09:11:38 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:11:41 TAMPA THEATRE.
09:11:43 OFFICER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE IN OUR
09:11:45 COMMUNITY.
09:11:45 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE I'M HONORED TO GIVE YOU THE
09:11:48 GIFT OF A MEMBERSHIP SO YOU CAN COME AND VISIT US ON
09:11:51 FRANKLIN STREET.
09:11:52 THANK YOU.
09:11:53 >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:11:54 OF.
09:11:56 >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:11:58 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:11:59 >> THANK YOU.
09:11:59 >> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
09:12:01 WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER GAIN WEIGHT
09:12:04 OR YOU'RE GOING TO GAIN PROSPERITY WITH YOUR FELLOW
09:12:08 OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO JOIN YOU.
09:12:10 ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, WE'RE
09:12:14 PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE SO YOU CAN ENJOY
09:12:17 YOURSELF FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
09:12:19 THIS ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:12:20 THIS IS GOING TO THE Y.
09:12:23 AFTER YOU EAT ALL THE FOOD AND ENJOY ALL THESE THINGS,
09:12:26 YOU CAN GO TO THE Y AND ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
09:12:29 ON BEHALF OF AQUA, RESTAURANT LOCATED ON COURTNEY
09:12:33 CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY OUT AT THE WESTIN HOTEL, YOU CAN ENJOY
09:12:37 YOURSELF FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER.
09:12:40 ON BEHALF OF FORBICI, ITALIAN RESTAURANT IN HYDE PARK,
09:12:45 ENJOY YOURSELF THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
09:12:48 CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP, BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER,
09:12:52 DEPENDING ON THE ESTABLISHMENT, AND PRESTIGE PORTRAITS,
09:12:56 YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PICTURE TAKEN.
09:12:58 I WOULD RECOMMEND AFTER THE Y.
09:13:00 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:13:01 >> THANK YOU.
09:13:06 >> OFFICER, I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU AND I WOULD BE PRETTY
09:13:10 UPSET IF I WERE YOU, YOU'RE THE ONLY OFFICER OF THE MONTH
09:13:13 THAT HASN'T RECEIVED A FORD MUSTANG, MAN.
09:13:16 I WOULD BE SERIOUSLY UPSET.
09:13:18 >> NO, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING.
09:13:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SURE JIM IS AROUND THE CORNER.
09:13:22 I'LL READ THIS OFF TO YOU.
09:13:24 I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.
09:13:27 EVERY OFFICER SHOULD GET ONE OF THESE FOR THE GREAT
09:13:30 THINGS THAT YOU'RE DEPARTMENT DOES, THE GREAT THINGS YOUR
09:13:36 BROTHERS AND SISTERS DO FOR US.
09:13:38 IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE EVER WANTS TO SEE WHAT THESE
09:13:40 OFFICERS GO THROUGH, THE TAMPA CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY IS
09:13:46 THE PLACE TO GO.
09:13:48 YOU WILL LEARN EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO TO KEEP THIS CITY
09:13:52 SAFE.
09:13:52 SO, OFFICER, BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVICE,
09:13:56 COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
09:14:00 CALL OF DUTY, YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF
09:14:03 DISTINCTION AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR THE SECURITY OF
09:14:06 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT NEW MOBILE POST COMMAND, TO
09:14:09 CREATING A THREAT ASSISTANCE TABLETOP EXERCISE COMMUNITY
09:14:13 PARTNERS TO SERVING ON THE POLICE MEMORIAL COMMITTEE.
09:14:17 YOUR SERVICE IS COMMENDED BY YOUR PEERS AND SUPERIORS.
09:14:20 THIS AWARD IS A SYMBOL OF YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD THE
09:14:23 MAKING OF TAMPA BETTER, SAFER, AND MORE SECURE PLACE TO
09:14:27 LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
09:14:29 IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR TO PRESENT OFFICER
09:14:33 STANLEY MERCHANT WITH A COMMENDATION ON THE 24th DAY OF
09:14:36 OCTOBER, 2019.
09:14:38 CONGRATULATIONS, OFFICER.
09:14:40 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:14:40 NOW YOU'RE ON THE HOT SPOT.
09:14:55 >> YES, SIR.
09:14:55 LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING, WOW.
09:14:58 IT'S EXTREMELY HUMBLING.
09:15:02 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE.
09:15:04 THANK YOU FOR STAFF ALLOWING ME TO WALK UP HERE AND
09:15:07 CHOOSING ME.
09:15:08 THANK YOU.
09:15:08 THANK YOU EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.
09:15:09 AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S HUMBLING BECAUSE IF YOU SPEND
09:15:12 ANY TIME WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU REALIZE A
09:15:14 LOT OF TALENT HERE, AS WE SEE ONE OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS
09:15:19 ALUMNI SITTING ON COUNCIL.
09:15:26 NOBODY WALKS ALONE IN LIFE.
09:15:29 SOMEBODY HAS TO OPEN THOSE DOORS, ALLOW YOU TO DO THE
09:15:32 WORK AND GIVE YOU THE FREEDOM DO IT.
09:15:34 IT'S PHENOMENAL.
09:15:35 LASTLY, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT THE GUYS I WORK
09:15:41 WITH.
09:15:42 SQUAD 11.
09:15:43 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:15:44 JUST SO YOU REALIZE, THESE ARE THE GUYS WHEN THERE ARE
09:15:46 LARGE EVENTS HERE, THEY PUT IT TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE
09:15:49 EVERYBODY IS SAFE.
09:15:50 THANK YOU GOD FOR EVERYTHING AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
09:15:53 EVERYTHING.
09:15:54 THANK YOU.
09:15:54 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:00 >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, SOME MEMBERS WOULD
09:16:03 LIKE TO SAY WORDS, STARTING WITH YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUE.
09:16:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY MAN STANLEY.
09:16:08 I'M ALWAYS EXCITED TO SEE OFFICERS GET THE OFFICER OF THE
09:16:11 MONTH.
09:16:11 I'M GOING TO BE BLUNT.
09:16:13 IT'S ECSTATIC WHEN I SEE ONE OF MY OWN GET THAT AWARD.
09:16:17 I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO GET THAT AWARD.
09:16:20 NO ONE KNOWS HOW IT TRULY FEELS FOR ONE OF US TO GET THAT
09:16:24 AWARD.
09:16:25 IT'S A FEELING THAT'S UNFORGETTABLE FOR THE SERVICE AND
09:16:28 WORK YOU'RE DOING AND FOR ALL THE OFFICERS.
09:16:30 FOR ME, WHEN I SEE ONE OF MY OWN GETTING THAT AWARD, IT
09:16:33 IS A SPECIAL FEELING.
09:16:34 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:16:36 MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. TALLY, IS HERE PROTECTING US THIS
09:16:39 MORNING.
09:16:40 I SAY THE BOTH OF YOU WORK HARD, TAKE THAT TEST.
09:16:45 DO NOT GO A YEAR BY WITHOUT TAKING THAT TEST.
09:16:49 MORE LEADERS LIKE YOU IN THE HIGH-RANKING LEVELS, TAKE
09:16:53 THE TEST, TAKE THE TEST.
09:16:56 >> THANK YOU.
09:16:56 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:16:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
09:17:00 YOU'VE DONE.
09:17:01 I'VE NOTICED MORE AND MORE POLICE OFFICERS OF THE MONTH
09:17:03 ARE BECOMING PERFECT HEADED.
09:17:07 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:17:07 ALWAYS HAVE TO ADD A LITTLE HUMOR TO EVERYTHING.
09:17:13 LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT, MY LEFT.
09:17:17 SOME ALREADY THERE, SOME WANT TO BE THERE AND WE'RE
09:17:19 GETTING THERE BECAUSE THE GREAT CHIEF WE HAVE HAS SET THE
09:17:23 TREND.
09:17:23 I KNEW BRIAN WHEN HE HAD LONG CURLS.
09:17:27 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:17:28 AND WALKING THE STREET DOESN'T DO IT, THEN SOMETHING IS
09:17:32 WRONG, BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT COMES UP HERE JUST ABOUT HAS
09:17:36 GOT A PERFECT HEAD.
09:17:37 WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS WORKING THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE TAKE
09:17:40 FOR GRANTED, BUT ALL THE THINGS THAT THE CHIEF SAID ARE
09:17:43 VERY IMPORTANT IN LIFE AND GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT WHEN
09:17:47 YOU LOOK AT THE PARADE ITSELF, THE GASPARILLA AND OTHERS.
09:17:49 THE WORK THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES, ALONG WITH
09:17:52 OTHER DEPARTMENTS, LIKE SOLID WASTE, ALONG WITH OTHERS,
09:17:55 IT'S AMAZING.
09:17:56 TWO HOURS AFTER THE PARADE, YOU NEVER KNEW THERE WAS A
09:18:00 PARADE.
09:18:00 THE ARRESTS HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN DONE BECAUSE OF THE WAY
09:18:04 INDIVIDUALS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MEN AND WOMEN, HAVE
09:18:06 DONE IT, CREATES AN AMBIENCE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN, I
09:18:10 DON'T WANT TO CREATE INJURIES.
09:18:12 THANK YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY YOURSELF, FOR BEING POLICE
09:18:14 OFFICERS.
09:18:15 >> THANK YOU.
09:18:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:18:16 ANYONE ELSE?
09:18:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WORK.
09:18:21 IS ANY FAMILY OR MEMBERS HERE TODAY?
09:18:23 >> NO.
09:18:24 MOTHER TAKING CARE OF MY GRANDFATHER.
09:18:26 MY WIFE IS IN SCHOOL TO BE AN RN.
09:18:29 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL, GOD BLESS.
09:18:31 YOU KNOW BETTER THAN MOST OF US UP HERE, EXCEPT FOR, OF
09:18:37 COURSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHEN YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER,
09:18:40 FIRST RESPONDER, YOU GUYS TAKE THE HITS.
09:18:43 THEY KNOW THE RISK YOU TAKE EVERY DAY AND PRAY FOR YOU
09:18:48 EVERY DAY.
09:18:48 THEY ARE THE ONES THERE FOR YOU.
09:18:50 I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
09:18:51 GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:19:04 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE ASK CHIEF DUGAN TO COME UP HERE,
09:19:06 I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF HOUSE CLEANING.
09:19:08 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WAS THERE AN ITEM YOU WANTED TO
09:19:11 MOVE, SIR.
09:19:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WORKSHOP, ITEM NUMBER 17 FOR THE
09:19:14 BANNING OF SINGLE-USE PLASTICS, I'D LIKE TO RESCHEDULE
09:19:19 THAT TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP SESSION THAT I SEE IS FAIRLY
09:19:22 LIGHT.
09:19:22 JANUARY 30th, 9 A.M.
09:19:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE CALENDAR, I'M GOING
09:19:32 TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SCHEDULE --
09:19:39 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
09:19:39 IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND.
09:19:42 THANK YOU.
09:19:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PER YOUR MEMO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE BEGAN
09:19:46 SCHEDULING THEM IN HALF-HOUR INCREMENTS.
09:19:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30 A.M., JANUARY 30th IN THE
09:19:54 COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
09:19:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:19:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:19:59 ANY IN FAVOR?
09:20:00 ANY OPPOSED?
09:20:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYBODY HERE WAITING TO SPEAK OR TALK ON
09:20:06 IT, IT WILL BE COMING BACK IN JANUARY.
09:20:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:20:10 WE'LL STATE THAT.
09:20:11 IF ANYBODY WAS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 17 AND WAS GOING TO
09:20:15 SPEAK ON IT, IT'S BEEN MOVED TO JANUARY 30th OF NEXT
09:20:18 YEAR.
09:20:18 YOU MAY STILL SPEAK ON IT TODAY, BUT JUST TO LET YOU ALL
09:20:22 KNOW THAT.
09:20:23 COUNCILMAN GUDES, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
09:20:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
09:20:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:20:34 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE.
09:20:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
09:20:37 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:20:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:20:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:20:43 ANY OPPOSED?
09:20:44 NEXT WE'LL ASK CHIEF DUGAN TO COME UP.
09:20:48 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ALSO WANTED TO MOVE UP ITEM 16.
09:20:52 I WANT TO MAKE SURE, WE HAVE TWO COMMENDATIONS HERE.
09:20:55 WHO IS YOUR INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS TO LEAVE EARLY?
09:21:02 >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
09:21:06 >>LUIS VIERA: WHENEVER THEY GET HERE, IF YOU COULD LET ME
09:21:09 KNOW, WE'LL PROCEED AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT WITH THE
09:21:11 COMMENDATIONS AS THEY GO.
09:21:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:21:14 BRIAN DUGAN, YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE.
09:21:17 SINCE WE HAD THE ISSUES ABOUT THE BIKE STOPS, THE POLICE
09:21:23 DEPARTMENT HAS RETURNED TO DO AN ANNUAL REPORT.
09:21:29 I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.
09:21:33 I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE MISSION OF THE TAMPA
09:21:35 POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO REDUCE CRIME, IMPROVE THE QUALITY
09:21:38 OF LIFE THROUGH COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS.
09:21:41 THAT'S A QUICK SUMMARY OF IT.
09:21:43 WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT BIKE
09:21:46 STOP ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:21:48 I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE ANY
09:21:52 COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE BIKE STOP ISSUES.
09:21:54 IT TELLS ME THAT THERE ISN'T ANY.
09:21:59 YESTERDAY I SPOKE WITH YVETTE LEWIS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
09:22:02 NAACP AND ASKED HER IF SHE RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS AND
09:22:06 SHE HAD NONE.
09:22:06 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE NOT RECEIVING
09:22:09 COMPLAINTS ON IT.
09:22:10 TO GIVE A BIG PICTURE ON THE BIKE STOP, AND YOU HAVE SOME
09:22:16 OF THIS IN YOUR PACKET IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT BIKE STOPS, WE
09:22:24 HAD OVER -- BETWEEN OUR PRODUCTIVITY AND CALLS FOR
09:22:29 SERVICE, WE HAD 664,000 CALLS LAST YEAR, OR DOCUMENTED
09:22:34 CONTACTS WITH THE CITIZENS.
09:22:36 NOW, JUST THINK HOW MANY MILLIONS OF UNDOCUMENTED
09:22:39 CONTACTS, WHERE YOU GIVE PEOPLE DIRECTIONS OR YOU COME IN
09:22:43 CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY AT A RESTAURANT AND EVERYTHING.
09:22:45 BUT OF OUR DOCUMENTED CONTACTS, BICYCLE STOPS ARE LESS
09:22:49 THAN HALF A PERCENT OF WHAT WE DO.
09:22:52 JUST TO BRING SOME CONTEXT ABOUT BIKE STOPS.
09:22:55 I THINK THAT'S BEEN MISCONSTRUED OVER THE YEARS THAT
09:22:58 WE'RE JUST OUT THERE STOPPING EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY.
09:23:01 SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS TO GIVE SOME
09:23:04 PERSPECTIVE TO BICYCLE STOPS AND WHAT WE DO AT THE TAMPA
09:23:08 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:23:09 WHEN YOU LOOK AT TAMPA'S CRIME RATE COMPARED TO OTHER
09:23:19 CITIES, WE'RE 20% LOWER THAN THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE, OR
09:23:23 51% LOWER THAN CITIES THAT AVERAGE ABOVE 250,000 IN
09:23:28 POPULATION.
09:23:28 WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ARREST RATE, OUR ADULT ARREST INDEX
09:23:32 HAS DROPPED BY 38% IN THE LAST DECADE COMPARED TO A
09:23:36 STATEWIDE AVERAGE OF 27%.
09:23:38 OUR JUVENILE ARREST INDEX HAS DROPPED BY 68% IN THE LAST
09:23:42 DECADE COMPARED TO THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE OF 54%.
09:23:46 THE CLEARANCE RATE, HOW MANY CASES WE'LL MAKE ARRESTS AND
09:23:49 CLEARING THEM, WE'RE HAVING A 38.7% BETTER THAN THE
09:23:54 AVERAGE OTHER CITIES OUT THERE.
09:23:56 SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE
09:24:00 ON HOW SUCCESSFUL WE HAVE BEEN IN REDUCING CRIME.
09:24:17 WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BIKE STOP DATA, WE CONDUCTED 1,000
09:24:23 LESS BIKE STOPS OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS THAN WE DID LAST
09:24:28 AND THE YEAR BEFORE.
09:24:30 24.8% DECREASE.
09:24:32 OUR CITATIONS ARE DOWN 40%.
09:24:36 COMPARED TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
09:24:39 LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
09:24:43 -- THAT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO
09:24:47 SAY, WHATEVER THE SAYING IS, LET'S LOOK AT THE
09:24:49 DEMOGRAPHICS.
09:24:50 WE'VE DONE A THOUSAND LESS BIKE STOPS WHILE ARRESTING AND
09:24:53 CITING FEWER BLACKS AND MORE WHITES.
09:24:56 I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
09:24:59 I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE CITING LESS BLACK PEOPLE AND
09:25:02 CITING MORE WHITE PEOPLE.
09:25:04 BUT THE NUMBERS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
09:25:07 WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ARRESTS AND CITATIONS, WHEN YOU LOOK
09:25:11 AT CITATIONS, WE ARE DOWN 52%, AND WE ARE -- WE'RE DOWN
09:25:17 52% FOR BLACK PEOPLE AND UP 50% FOR WHITE PEOPLE.
09:25:21 NOW, WHAT THAT IS, WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUING CITATIONS,
09:25:26 THERE'S 57 BLACK PEOPLE THAT WERE CITED AND 27 WHITE
09:25:29 PEOPLE.
09:25:30 BUT THE NUMBERS FOR SOME REASON CITING MORE WHITE PEOPLE
09:25:36 THAN WE ARE BLACK PEOPLE THIS YEAR.
09:25:38 WHEN YOU LOOK AT BIKE LIGHTS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE BIG
09:25:43 ISSUE.
09:25:44 MOST OF THE STOPS ARE DONE AT NIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN
09:25:46 THE MAJORITY OF THE CRIME IS TAKING PLACE.
09:25:51 WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE BIKE LIGHTS, AND THAT'S
09:25:54 MOST OF THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE BEING STOPPED, BUT WE
09:25:58 NEED TO HELP FIX THAT, SO IT'S ABOUT CHANGING BEHAVIOR
09:26:01 AND IT'S ABOUT EDUCATING PEOPLE.
09:26:02 SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ARE WORKING WITH F.D.O.T. AND THE ON
09:26:09 BIKES GROUP AND WE ARE ISSUING BICYCLE LIGHTS TO PEOPLE
09:26:13 WHO DO NOT HAVE THEM.
09:26:14 WE HAVE GIVEN OUT 64% INCREASE.
09:26:18 WE GAVE OUT OVER 300 BICYCLE LIGHTS IN THE LAST YEAR.
09:26:22 SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ISSUE THAT TYPE OF
09:26:25 STUFF.
09:26:26 IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION AND PREVENTION, BUT IT'S ALSO THE
09:26:30 MAIN ISSUE IS ABOUT REDUCING CRIME.
09:26:33 AND SO YOU HAVE, IN YOUR PACKET, IN THE BACK, YOU HAVE
09:26:37 SOME METADATA THERE WHERE THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF
09:26:41 INFORMATION AS FAR AS NUMBERS AND ARRESTS.
09:26:44 I CAN GO ON MORE, BUT I GUESS NOW I'M TO THE POINT WHERE,
09:26:50 WHAT TYPE OF QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE?
09:26:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:26:53 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
09:26:54 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:26:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
09:26:59 I APPRECIATE ALL THIS INFORMATION.
09:27:00 I KNOW THE BIG ISSUE ORIGINALLY WAS SORT OF PRETEXT, THE
09:27:09 STOPPING FOR THE LIGHTS WAS REALLY A PRETEXT AND THAT
09:27:13 SORT OF THING.
09:27:14 I THINK WE'RE PAST THAT.
09:27:16 THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THESE
09:27:20 NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED AND KIND OF BALANCED OUT.
09:27:22 I WONDER TWO THINGS.
09:27:24 NUMBER ONE, WHAT OTHER ISSUE -- WHAT OTHER REASONS,
09:27:29 PROBABLE CAUSE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WOULD THE OFFICERS HAVE
09:27:32 FOR STOPPING SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE LACK OF LIGHTS,
09:27:38 UNLESS IT'S HOT PURSUIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
09:27:41 IS THERE ANY OTHER STANDARD REASON?
09:27:44 NUMBER ONE.
09:27:44 AND NUMBER TWO IS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ONLY HANDING OUT
09:27:50 LIGHTS TO ABOUT 10% OF THE FOLKS, ALMOST ACTUALLY EXACTLY
09:27:53 10% OF THE FOLKS WE'RE STOPPING.
09:27:54 WHAT CAN WE DO, COUNCIL OR A BUDGET OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO
09:28:01 INCREASE THAT 90% AND HAND OUT LIGHTS TO EVERYBODY WE
09:28:05 STOP?
09:28:07 >>BRIAN DUGAN: WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF WHO GIVES US THE
09:28:10 LIGHTS.
09:28:12 WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE BUDGET TO BUY THEM.
09:28:13 THERE IS A GROUP CALLED ON BIKES.
09:28:15 I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
09:28:16 THEY GIVES US LIGHTS.
09:28:18 OUR BIKE SQUAD DOES BICYCLE RODEOS WITH KIDS WHERE WE
09:28:18 GIVE OUT HELMETS AND BIKE LIGHTS FOR THEM.
09:28:25 FIX AND REPAIR THEIR BIKES.
09:28:26 WE'VE GOTTEN F.D.O.T. GRANTS.
09:28:28 REALLY WHAT WE NEED IS THAT GRANT MONEY AND THAT SUPPORT
09:28:31 TO GET MORE LIGHTS -- FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAND THEM OUT.
09:28:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS A TOTAL LIGHT COST IN CASE
09:28:39 SOMEBODY IS WATCHING --
09:28:41 >> I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THEY COST.
09:28:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FIVE, TEN BUCKS.
09:28:45 THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, WHAT OTHER REASON WOULD THE
09:28:47 OFFICERS BE STOPPING FOLKS IF IT'S NOT FOR LIGHTS?
09:28:50 >>BRIAN DUGAN: YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS.
09:28:53 THEY ARE RIDING DOWN THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET.
09:28:55 THEY ARE RIDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET GOING AGAINST
09:28:58 TRAFFIC.
09:28:59 THEY ARE WEAVING IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC.
09:29:02 YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE STREET.
09:29:04 SIDEWALKS DON'T COUNT.
09:29:06 IT HAS TO BE A TRAFFIC INFRACTION AND OBVIOUSLY A LEGAL
09:29:09 TRAFFIC INFRACTION.
09:29:10 IF THEY ARE NOT WEAVING IN AND OUT OF STREETS -- REALLY
09:29:14 WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WHEN YOU'RE ON A ROAD AND YOU'RE
09:29:17 WEAVING IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC, GOING AGAINST TRAFFIC, YOU
09:29:20 DON'T HAVE A BIKE LIGHT AT NIGHT.
09:29:22 THAT IS THE OTHER THING PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE.
09:29:24 YOU NEED A BIKE LIGHT AT NIGHT.
09:29:27 OTHER THAN THAT, REALLY THE MAIN TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS.
09:29:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FINALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DOING
09:29:33 THIS ANNUALLY NOW, THIS REPORT.
09:29:37 >>BRIAN DUGAN: I WAS NOT REQUESTED BY COUNCIL LAST YEAR
09:29:40 TO COME BACK.
09:29:41 I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT IT WAS ALREADY ON -- I THINK
09:29:45 THERE'S A COMMUNICATION ISSUE.
09:29:48 THERE WAS NO REQUEST LAST YEAR WHEN I CAME HERE TO COME
09:29:51 BACK TO COUNCIL.
09:29:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD
09:29:54 REPORT AND GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR SO IN CASE
09:29:58 THERE'S SOME PERCEPTION THAT THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, OUT OF
09:30:02 CONTROL, THAT YOU HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL.
09:30:04 I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING.
09:30:06 BUT THE OTHER THING I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT IS A
09:30:09 BREAKDOWN GEOGRAPHICALLY.
09:30:12 I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THERE OR NOT, BUT IN TERMS OF --
09:30:20 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS LIKE TO DO IT, ZONES,
09:30:23 DISTRICTS, WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE
09:30:26 INTERESTING TO SEE GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE THAT FOCUS IS.
09:30:29 OTHER THAN THAT I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
09:30:33 >>BRIAN DUGAN: SOME OF THE ISSUES -- SOME OF THE
09:30:36 CHALLENGES, THE REQUEST THAT WASN'T MADE BY THIS
09:30:38 PARTICULAR COUNCIL IS IT WAS VERY GENERIC AS TO WHAT THEY
09:30:44 WANTED.
09:30:45 YOU TEND TO BRING WHAT YOU'RE ASKED FOR.
09:30:48 IN ANTICIPATION THAT I MIGHT GET THAT QUESTION --
09:30:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHY YOU'RE CHIEF.
09:30:57 >>BRIAN DUGAN: I'LL REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING ON THAT ONE.
09:31:00 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:31:01 IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN DOTS ON THE MAP THERE, THAT IS
09:31:05 -- AND THIS IS FROM OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR TO
09:31:09 SEPTEMBER 30th OF THIS YEAR.
09:31:12 LOOK AT THE GREEN DOTS, THOSE ARE BICYCLE STOPS.
09:31:15 IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE RED BLOCKS ARE, THOSE ARE GRIDS.
09:31:19 THOSE HAVE 43 OR MORE BIG FIVE OFFENSES, WHICH WE
09:31:25 CONSIDER AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, ANY TYPE OF GUN VIOLENCE,
09:31:29 AUTO BURGLARY, AUTO THEFT, ROBBERY AND HOME BURGLARY.
09:31:33 IF IT'S A YELLOW GRID, IT HAS 32 OR MORE BIG FIVE
09:31:38 OFFENSES.
09:31:38 THOSE ARE THE MAIN FIVE CRIMES THAT WE TRY TO FOCUS ON.
09:31:41 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE A LOT OF THESE STOPS ARE TAKING
09:31:48 PLACE, THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE CRIMINALS ARE USING
09:31:50 BICYCLES TO COMMIT CRIMES.
09:31:52 I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, IF YOU'D LIKE, ON
09:31:56 SOME OF THE BIKE STOPS AND SOME OF THE ARRESTS THAT WE'VE
09:31:58 MADE.
09:32:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE FLIP SIDE, OUT OF 3,000 STOPS, YOU
09:32:09 HAVE 148 ARRESTS.
09:32:10 I IMAGINE SOME OF THOSE ARE RATHER MISDEMEANORS AND THAT
09:32:15 SORT OF THING.
09:32:16 I DON'T KNOW.
09:32:20 I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
09:32:21 ARE WE STILL USING BIKE STOPS AS A CRIME-STOPPING TOOL?
09:32:26 I THOUGHT IT WAS A SAFETY THING.
09:32:31 >>BRIAN DUGAN: IT'S ABOUT CRIME REDUCTION.
09:32:33 THAT'S THE WAY I'VE LOOKED AT IT.
09:32:36 THIS STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO AND THREE CHIEFS AGO.
09:32:40 I LOOK AT IT AS A CRIME REDUCTION TOOL.
09:32:44 I DON'T GET COMPLAINTS FROM ANYONE ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING
09:32:48 OUR BIKE STOPS ANYMORE.
09:32:50 WE HAD BACK ON MARCH 16th AT 1 A.M. AT FLORIDA AND
09:32:57 PARIS, WE STOPPED SOMEBODY FOR NO WARRANT AND HE HAD A
09:33:01 WARRANT FOR SEXUAL BATTERY AND KIDNAPPING OUT OF OHIO.
09:33:04 IS THAT THE TYPE OF PERSON WE WANT ON OUR STREETS?
09:33:06 I CAN SHOW YOU A CHART THAT WILL MATCH THE TIMES OF THE
09:33:09 BIKE STOPS AND IT WILL SHOW YOU ALSO THE TIMES OF VIOLENT
09:33:14 CRIMES.
09:33:15 THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE
09:33:18 LEGAL STOPS.
09:33:18 THAT IS THE BIG THING.
09:33:20 IT HAS TO BE A LEGAL STOP FOR US TO STOP AND TALK TO
09:33:23 SOMEBODY.
09:33:24 AT 2 A.M. IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, TWO SUBJECTS ON A BIKE
09:33:28 OBSERVED WITH A HANDGUN AND WE MADE THE ARREST.
09:33:32 9 P.M., 3315 NORTH NEBRASKA, SUBJECTS SHOOTING AT EACH
09:33:37 OTHER FLED ON BIKES.
09:33:38 ARREST WAS MADE AND TWO HANDGUNS RECOVERED.
09:33:41 ON INDICATION, WE HAD TWO KIDS ON A BICYCLE.
09:33:46 ONE WAS RIDING ON THE HANDLEBARS.
09:33:49 THEY APPROACHED ANOTHER KID WHO WAS ON A BICYCLE.
09:33:52 THEY SHOT, ROBBED HIM AND KILLED HIM FOR HIS BICYCLE.
09:33:55 I THINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING LOST IN THE
09:33:57 NARRATIVE OF HOW WE'RE DOING POLICING.
09:34:07 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:34:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I SEE SOME OF YOUR
09:34:14 POINTS.
09:34:14 A PERSON WHO HAS MADE BIKE STOPS AND SOME OF THE
09:34:17 GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE, I THINK IT'S ALL ABOUT
09:34:20 PHILOSOPHY.
09:34:21 I THINK THE PHILOSOPHY HAS KIND OF CHANGED NOW THE WAY WE
09:34:24 DO BIKE STOPS OR HOW WE HANDLE BUSINESS AT THE POLICE
09:34:30 DEPARTMENT.
09:34:31 AT ONE POINT, WE WERE DOING BUSINESS ONE WAY AND NOW WE
09:34:31 GET NEW CHIEFS AND WE DO BUSINESS ANOTHER WAY.
09:34:31 TO ME, IT'S ALL ABOUT PHILOSOPHY AND ALL ABOUT HOW THE
09:34:37 COMMAND LEVEL IS SHARING THAT PHILOSOPHY DOWN TO WHAT I
09:34:41 CALL THE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT LEVEL, DOWN TO THE TROOPS.
09:34:46 SO I BELIEVE IT'S ALL ABOUT PHILOSOPHY AND HOW WE POLICE.
09:34:50 A GOOD SUPERVISOR WATCHES HIS TROOPS AND UNDERSTANDS WHEN
09:34:53 THAT PHILOSOPHY IS GOING A DIFFERENT WAY.
09:34:56 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE OTHER SUPERVISORS WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT
09:34:58 CAVEAT TO THE PHILOSOPHY AND HAVE TO BE REELED IN WHEN
09:35:02 THINGS GO AWRY.
09:35:04 BICYCLE STOPS WENT AWRY MANY, MANY YEARS AGO BUT I THINK
09:35:07 THE PHILOSOPHY HAS CHANGED.
09:35:09 WOULD YOU AGREE, CHIEF?
09:35:10 >>BRIAN DUGAN: I THINK WHAT IT IS IS THE DEPARTMENT HAS
09:35:12 EVOLVED.
09:35:13 IF YOU RECALL WHEN I TOOK OVER, I SAID I WASN'T HERE TO
09:35:16 REINVENT TPD.
09:35:18 WE'VE HAD SOME VERY STRONG CHIEFS OF POLICE AND WE HAVE A
09:35:21 VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
09:35:22 BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMUNITY EVOLVES.
09:35:25 IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.
09:35:26 SO, YEAH, PART OF IT IS PHILOSOPHY.
09:35:28 I THINK WE'RE MUCH MORE AWARE OF HOW WE POLICE.
09:35:31 I THINK IT'S A NATIONWIDE TREND.
09:35:34 YOU LOOK AT THE PROTESTS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS AND
09:35:38 JUST RECENTLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY PROTESTS NATIONALLY ON
09:35:42 POLICE.
09:35:43 I THINK POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE GETTING BETTER IN HOW THEY
09:35:47 POLICE.
09:35:48 I THINK THAT WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL WHO'S ENGAGED, I'M
09:35:54 ENGAGED, OUR MAYOR IS ENGAGED.
09:35:57 OUR MAYOR WON 73% OF THE VOTE.
09:35:59 IF THEY WERE UNHAPPY WITH TPD, I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD
09:36:03 HAVE BEEN ELECTED.
09:36:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I WAS AWAY LAST WEEK, YOU
09:36:08 LOOK AT DIFFERENT PLACES AND HOW THEY POLICE.
09:36:11 THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WITH SOME OTHER COLLEAGUES WHEN
09:36:15 WE GOT OFF THE BUS, WE LOOKED AT THE OFFICERS, THE
09:36:19 CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT, A HUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
09:36:24 HUGE, AND YOU LOOK -- THE FIRST THING I CAN SEE IS THE
09:36:27 DRESS ATTIRE.
09:36:28 I LOOK AT OUR DRESS ATTIRE, AND THE PRESENCE THAT WE HAVE
09:36:32 VERSUS -- I JUST LOOKED AT THE CHICAGO PD, I WAS LIKE,
09:36:37 MAN, THOSE UNIFORMS ARE SO DINGY AND DIRTY.
09:36:43 IT IS A PRESENCE YOU HAVE TO GIVE.
09:36:46 WE DO THINGS GOOD, SOMETIMES WE DON'T, FOR WHAT IT'S
09:36:50 WORTH, I THINK THAT POLICING IS AN ONGOING METHODS.
09:36:54 THINGS DO CHANGE.
09:36:55 I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT WHEN THINGS AWRY WE
09:36:59 TRY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
09:37:01 I'M HAPPY WITH THAT AT THIS TIME.
09:37:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:37:04 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:37:06 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS.
09:37:09 IT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:37:11 THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING AND GIVING US THE DATA,
09:37:14 ESPECIALLY IF YOU WEREN'T ASKED TO DO IT.
09:37:16 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES.
09:37:18 I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS.
09:37:19 THANK YOU.
09:37:23 >>BRIAN DUGAN: MY CONCERN, IF YOU GIVE ME A FEW
09:37:25 LIBERTIES.
09:37:25 WE KEEP COMING UP HERE -- WE -- I KEEP COMING UP HERE AND
09:37:30 PREVIOUS CHIEFS, MY CONCERN, I'M ALL ABOUT
09:37:33 ACCOUNTABILITY.
09:37:33 ON MAY 2nd, THE DAY AFTER MAYOR CASTOR WAS SWORN IN, I
09:37:38 FIRED THREE POLICE OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY WERE
09:37:41 HANDLING THEMSELVES AND THE WAY THEY WERE TREATING
09:37:43 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:37:45 I'M VERY BIG ON ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT ONE OF MY JOBS AS
09:37:50 CHIEF OF POLICE IS TO HAVE THE BACK OF THE OFFICERS WHEN
09:37:55 THEY'RE DOING GOOD.
09:37:56 FOR US TO KEEP COMING UP HERE AND DISCUSSING SOMETHING
09:37:58 THAT TOOK PLACE BACK FIVE YEARS AGO OR FOUR AND A HALF
09:38:01 YEARS AGO, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE POLICE OFFICER IS GOING
09:38:05 TO START FEELING LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF
09:38:09 COUNCIL.
09:38:09 AT SOME POINT I HAVE TO STAND UP FOR THEM AND SAY WE'RE
09:38:12 DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.
09:38:14 AND WE CAN KEEP BEATING THIS HORSE OR THIS DRUM AND I
09:38:17 WILL COME BACK, IF THAT'S YOUR REQUEST, BUT I WONDER IF
09:38:21 THIS IS NOT STARTING TO TIRE OUT.
09:38:25 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:38:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE COULD LOOK AT IT TWO WAYS, CHIEF.
09:38:29 I OFTEN ENCOURAGE STAFF TO COME UP HERE AND GIVE REPORTS,
09:38:35 SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING
09:38:39 IN OUR CITY.
09:38:40 THE FLIPSIDE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS YOU JUST GAVE A
09:38:44 REPORT THAT SAYS THINGS ARE IMPROVING.
09:38:46 THINGS HAVE IMPROVED GREATLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
09:38:50 THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REPORT TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:38:52 I'M SORRY -- I DON'T FEEL LIKE ANYBODY IS BEATING YOU UP
09:38:56 ON THIS ISSUE.
09:38:57 >>BRIAN DUGAN: I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE PERCEPTION THAT THE
09:39:01 OFFICER IS GOING TO FEEL.
09:39:02 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN 1% OF WHAT THEY DO.
09:39:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:39:08 THAT'S A STATISTIC I'VE NEVER HEARD BEFORE.
09:39:10 I THINK NOW THAT YOU'VE MADE A PRESENTATION, I KNOW I
09:39:14 LEARNED MORE, THE COMMUNITY HAS LEARNED MORE, ANYBODY
09:39:16 WATCHING AND THE NEWSPAPER WILL HOPEFULLY PRINT THAT.
09:39:19 >>BRIAN DUGAN: I POINTED THAT OUT LAST YEAR.
09:39:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WASN'T HERE.
09:39:23 >>BRIAN DUGAN: OKAY.
09:39:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT ANYWAY, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
09:39:27 WE DON'T WANT ANY ANIMOSITY.
09:39:31 WEEK AFTER WEEK, I THINK WE TRY AND SHOW TPD AND TFR AND
09:39:36 ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM.
09:39:38 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:39:39 WE APPRECIATE THEM.
09:39:40 IT'S OUR JOB TO ASK QUESTIONS AND OUR JOB TO BE THE VOICE
09:39:45 OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:39:47 SOMETIMES WE DO HEAR THESE THINGS.
09:39:49 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THEM.
09:39:52 ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:39:53 >>BRIAN DUGAN: NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT'S NOT
09:39:56 ABOUT ME.
09:39:57 IT'S ABOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN.
09:39:58 ANY PRAISE THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT GETS THAT THE
09:40:01 PEOPLE GIVE TO ME, I DIDN'T DO IT.
09:40:04 I DON'T DESERVE IT.
09:40:06 IT IS THE MEN AND WOMEN ON THE STREETS PUTTING THEIR
09:40:08 LIVES ON THE LINE THAT DESERVE THE CREDIT AND THAT IS MY
09:40:12 CONCERN.
09:40:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:40:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR BEING
09:40:19 STRAIGHTFORWARD AND PRESENTING IT LIKE A REAL HUMAN BEING
09:40:21 AND SAYING THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.
09:40:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:40:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:40:26 JUST FOR MY OWN PART, I THINK YOU KNOW, CHIEF, HOW I FEEL
09:40:31 ABOUT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM.
09:40:33 NOBODY UP HERE, BUT IF ANYBODY WAS EVER DISRESPECTFUL, I
09:40:38 KNOW I WOULD CERTAINLY SPEAK OUT IN THAT REGARD.
09:40:41 I THINK BEFORE I SPEAK OUT, I'M SURE OUR FORMER POLICE
09:40:44 OFFICER HERE WOULD ALSO SPEAK OUT AS WELL.
09:40:46 SO THAT'S JUST MY SENTIMENT IN THAT REGARD 110%.
09:40:50 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:40:51 >>BRIAN DUGAN: THANK YOU.
09:40:52 I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
09:40:56 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF
09:40:58 COMMENDATIONS YOU WANTED TO DO, SIR?
09:41:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
09:41:01 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, YEAH.
09:41:03 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I ASSUME -- IS HE OKAY TO WAIT FIVE
09:41:09 MINUTES?
09:41:10 JUST MAKING SURE.
09:41:11 THANK YOU.
09:42:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:42:04 WE'RE GOING TO DO ITEMS 2 AND 3 AT ONE TIME.
09:42:09 THESE FOLKS NO ONE ANOTHER.
09:42:13 WE ARE ALL COMMUNITY PEOPLE.
09:42:14 THIS MORNING, I HAVE MR. JOEL BARNUM, WHO IS THE
09:42:18 PRESIDENT OF THE NORTHEAST CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
09:42:21 THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE OF 40th STREET AND HILLSBOROUGH
09:42:25 AVENUE.
09:42:26 HE'S ALSO TAKING ON EXTRA TASKS BY HELPING WITH THE LIVE
09:42:30 OAKS SQUARE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ALSO TO THE
09:42:33 WEST A LITTLE BIT, BETWEEN ABOUT -- NORTH OF
09:42:39 HILLSBOROUGH.
09:42:39 HE WAS ALSO TASKED WITH HELPING ANOTHER COMMUNITY GROUP
09:42:42 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE BY WILLIAMS
09:42:44 PARK.
09:42:45 SO MR. BARNUM IN HIS RETIREMENT, SOME OF HIS HEALTH
09:42:52 CONDITIONS, HE'S STILL OUT THERE FIGHTING FOR OUR
09:42:54 COMMUNITIES.
09:42:54 THEN WE HAVE MR. ROBINSON AND MRS. ROBINSON.
09:43:00 JOSEPH AND NORMA ROBINSON.
09:43:01 THEY ARE PHENOMENAL IN OUR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:43:03 THEY'VE BEEN UP THERE.
09:43:04 YOU KNOW THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:43:10 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE ALL THREE OF YOU GET YOUR JUST DO
09:43:14 BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THE TRAIL A LONG,
09:43:17 LONG TIME.
09:43:18 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WE GIVE THESE COMMENDATIONS, BUT I
09:43:20 FELT I HAD TO DO A LITTLE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
09:43:22 WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH, WE CALL OUR COMMENDATION.
09:43:26 OUR COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS AWARD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU
09:43:29 ARE.
09:43:30 YOU'RE CHAMPIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:43:32 YOU'RE FIGHTING DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
09:43:34 YOU'RE SERVING THE PEOPLE.
09:43:36 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT LEADERS, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, NO,
09:43:40 THOSE ARE NOT MY LEADERS MY LEADERS ARE THE COMMUNITY
09:43:43 ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS OUT THERE EVERY DAY WORKING, DOING
09:43:46 THE SMALL THINGS TO TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR SMALL
09:43:49 CHILDREN'S LIVES, OUR YOUNG ADULTS, AND SOMETIMES -- A
09:43:52 LOT OF TIMES OUR SENIORS AS WELL.
09:43:53 SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I LOOK AT.
09:43:56 THIS MORNING, I'D LIKE TO GIVE ALL THREE OF YOU A
09:44:00 COMMENDATION.
09:44:09 MR. JOE BARNUM, OUR COMMUNITY CHAMPION, IN HONOR OF YOUR
09:44:13 INVESTMENT OF THE TAMPA COMMUNITY AND YEARS OF DEDICATED
09:44:15 SERVICE, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES YOU AS A TRUE
09:44:18 COMMUNITY CHAMPION.
09:44:18 AS PRESIDENT OF THE NORTHEAST TERRACE SQUARE COMMUNITY,
09:44:24 YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED TRUE CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY FOR
09:44:27 YOUR DEDICATION AND HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS
09:44:30 OF TAMPA.
09:44:30 MR. BARNUM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR BLESSINGS.
09:44:36 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:44:37 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:44:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, WE HAVE JOSEPH AND NORMA
09:44:49 ROBINSON.
09:44:50 IN HONOR OF YOUR SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO THE TAMPA
09:44:52 COMMUNITY, YOUR ENDEAVORS IN PROMOTING AND ENCOURAGING
09:44:54 REDEVELOPMENT, AND A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
09:45:01 WE ARE SO PLEASED TO HAVE YOU AMONG US.
09:45:02 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND
09:45:05 TO SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:45:09 I KNOW YOU GOT THAT RAILROAD MURAL.
09:45:14 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
09:45:19 I'M THERE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY.
09:45:21 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:45:22 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:45:29 >> TO OUR GREAT CITY COUNCIL, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT
09:45:31 JOB.
09:45:32 I WATCH YOU OVER THE COURSE OF TIME AND WE APPLAUD ALL
09:45:35 THAT YOU DO.
09:45:36 TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, TRY TO
09:45:39 WORK WITH OUR CHIEF DUGAN AND HIS STAFF.
09:45:43 WE'RE JUST SO PROUD TO WORK WITH THE BETTERMENT OF THE
09:45:48 LEADERSHIP OF TAMPA AT-LARGE AND ALL THAT WE DO IN THE
09:45:51 NORTHEAST COMMUNITY TO MAKE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY BETTER
09:45:53 FOR EVERYBODY.
09:45:54 WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANY PART OF TAMPA LEFT BEHIND IN
09:45:57 ORDER TO MAKE TAMPA A GREAT CITY, ALL PARTS OF TAMPA HAVE
09:46:03 TO BE WORKED ON.
09:46:04 IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT WE'RE WORKING IN THE EAST TAMPA
09:46:08 COMMUNITY AND WE'RE THANKFUL TO COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR ALL
09:46:12 THAT HE'S SHOWN US DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS, NOT JUST AS
09:46:17 HE'S BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT WORKING WITH US FOR MANY
09:46:20 YEARS.
09:46:20 WE APPRECIATE HIM.
09:46:21 WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, AND WE JUST THANK EVERYBODY THIS
09:46:25 MORNING FOR WORKING TO MAKE TAMPA BETTER.
09:46:30 >> I'M GOING TO SAY DITTO.
09:46:32 I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL, THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:46:36 WE WANT TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS WORKED SO
09:46:41 MUCH AND SULPHUR SPRINGS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW AT ONE POINT
09:46:45 WE HAD SERIOUS PROBLEMS UP THERE, BUT WE APPLAUD THE
09:46:48 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE CITIZENS WHO ARE WORKING
09:46:50 WITH US TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE.
09:46:54 WE WANT TO THANK ALL THE COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT ARE
09:46:58 WORKING TO MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE FOR EVERYONE.
09:47:02 THANK YOU.
09:47:07 >> THANK YOU.
09:47:07 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:47:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BARNUM, YOU AND I DON'T KNOW EACH
09:47:17 OTHER BUT I'VE HEARD ABOUT YOU.
09:47:19 IF GUDES SAYS YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, YOU'RE A GOOD MAN.
09:47:23 THE ROBINSONS I'VE WATCHED MANY YEARS.
09:47:26 BY STRANGE COINCIDENCE, I HAPPENED TO BE UP THERE
09:47:30 YESTERDAY AT THE MUSEUM.
09:47:32 MS. NORMA SHOWED ME AROUND AND I WAS NEXT DOOR AT THE
09:47:36 STEPPING-STONES AND THEY ARE DOING FANTASTIC THINGS
09:47:38 THERE.
09:47:39 AS I DRIVE AROUND SULPHUR SPRINGS, I CAN SEE THE
09:47:42 IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN A BIG PART OF THAT.
09:47:45 THANKS TO ALL THREE OF YOU.
09:47:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I TRY TO BE IN A LOT OF PLACES IN THIS
09:47:57 WONDERFUL CITY.
09:47:58 EVERY TIME I GO TO PLACES, I SEE ALL THREE OF YOU, AND I
09:48:02 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND
09:48:05 MAKING IT GREAT.
09:48:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THREE
09:48:10 OF YOU.
09:48:11 IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY I'M LEAVING THIS PLACE BECAUSE IT'S
09:48:17 NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO BE IN.
09:48:19 YEARS AGO IT STARTED THAT WAY WHEN EVERYBODY WANTED TO
09:48:22 BUILD DUPLEXES AND DUPLEXES BECAME VACANT AND OVERGROWN,
09:48:26 IT BECAME NOT THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE LED, BUT BECAUSE OF
09:48:29 THE THREE OF YOU.
09:48:30 YOU STAYED.
09:48:32 AND YOU NURTURED AND YOU TAUGHT AND YOU HELPED THE YOUNG
09:48:36 KIDS.
09:48:36 YOU CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE THE YOUNG KIDS
09:48:39 ON YOUR SIDE, AND YOU'VE DONE THAT.
09:48:41 AND THAT'S WHERE LIFE STARTS TO CHANGE, NOT WHEN YOU'RE
09:48:45 45 AND 50 YEARS OLD, BUT WHEN YOU'RE 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD,
09:48:49 THAT YOU'RE SET IN MIND OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BE BECAUSE OF
09:48:52 THE GUIDANCE YOU HAD BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE
09:48:55 NEIGHBORHOODS, FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:48:56 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS TURNING AROUND AND GETTING MUCH
09:48:59 BETTER.
09:48:59 I'VE SEEN NEW HOUSES COME UP WHERE NO ONE WOULD LIVE
09:49:03 BEFORE.
09:49:04 I'VE SEEN CHANGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:49:05 I'VE SEEN BUSINESSES START UP AND BECAUSE OF YOU FOLKS,
09:49:09 NOT I OR ANYONE ELSE IN GOVERNMENT.
09:49:10 YOU'RE THE ONES WHO MADE IT HAPPEN.
09:49:13 NOT US.
09:49:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
09:49:18 I ALWAYS LOVE SO MANY OF THE COMMENDATIONS THAT
09:49:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES DOES BECAUSE I ALWAYS THINK THAT
09:49:23 COMMENDATIONS ARE MEANT OFTEN TO HONOR PEOPLE WHO SHOULD
09:49:27 HAVE BEEN HONORED 20 YEARS AGO.
09:49:29 SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO JUST BUST THEIR
09:49:32 BEHIND EVERY SINGLE DAY WORKING FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE
09:49:35 A VOICE AND GIVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE A VOICE
09:49:37 AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
09:49:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WHETHER EAST TAMPA OR SULPHUR
09:49:41 SPRINGS OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE
09:49:45 -- I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MENTIONED STEPPING
09:49:49 STONES.
09:49:50 GREAT ORGANIZATION.
09:49:51 I TALKED WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES ABOUT THAT DURING THE
09:49:53 CAMPAIGN AND HE'S ALWAYS BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER.
09:49:55 THE MUSEUM OUT THERE, I LOVE TO GO OUT THERE.
09:49:58 THAT'S A NICE EFFORT THAT SHOWS HISTORY THAT A LOT OF
09:50:01 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
09:50:03 I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE DONE REALLY NICE EXHIBITS.
09:50:06 ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO ON I BELIEVE THAT AREA DURING
09:50:10 RECONSTRUCTION AND AFTERWARDS AND REALLY NEAT STUFF.
09:50:12 I THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
09:50:14 THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
09:50:15 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I KNOW YOU WANT TO MOVE 16 UP.
09:50:24 THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:50:25 THE PRESENTATION ITSELF, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE A TIME
09:50:28 FRAME, ABOUT HOW LONG ROUGHLY WILL THAT TAKE, MORE OR
09:50:32 LESS.
09:50:32 >>BILL CARLSON: IT SHOULD TAKE TEN MINUTES.
09:50:35 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GREAT.
09:50:37 BEFORE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I SEE WE HAVE SAL HERE FOR
09:50:45 ITEM 7 AND 10.
09:50:49 SIR, ARE YOU OKAY WITH GOING AFTER THIS?
09:50:56 OKAY.
09:50:57 GO AHEAD.
09:51:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR INDULGING ME TO PRESENT
09:51:11 TODAY.
09:51:11 DO I NEED TO STATE MY NAME?
09:51:14 BILL CARLSON, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, DISTRICT 4.
09:51:17 BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE LAWS, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO PRESENT TO
09:51:20 MY COLLEAGUES OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM, SO I WANTED TO JUST
09:51:23 SEE IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME FOR A FEW MINUTES.
09:51:26 I'VE GOT HERE TODAY MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, JASON MARLOW,
09:51:31 WHO HAS TWO MASTERS DEGREES AND HAS BEEN HELPING ME PUT
09:51:34 TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION.
09:51:35 I ALSO HAVE DR. MOEZ LIMAYEM, WHO IS THE DEAN OF THE USF
09:51:40 MUMA COLLEGE OF BUSINESS.
09:51:43 CAN YOU ALL SEE THE SLIDES?
09:51:54 WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT TRYING TO CREATE A SCORECARD
09:52:02 FOR TAMPA.
09:52:03 HOW DO WE MEASURE OUR SUCCESS?
09:52:05 HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE'RE DOING WELL OR NOT?
09:52:07 THE FIRST THING TO ASK IS WHY WOULD WE MEASURE?
09:52:12 THE REASON TO MEASURE IS BECAUSE WHAT YOU MEASURE GETS
09:52:16 DONE.
09:52:17 IF WE MEASURE THINGS THAT WE HIGHLIGHT, THEN HOPEFULLY
09:52:20 THAT WILL GET DONE IN THE FUTURE.
09:52:21 THESE ARE WHAT I CALL VANITY RANKINGS.
09:52:25 THERE ARE LOTS OF VANITY RANKINGS ABOUT TAMPA AND OTHER
09:52:29 CITIES.
09:52:29 THE REASON I CALL THEM VANITY RANKINGS IS BECAUSE THEY
09:52:32 ARE DONE BY PUBLICATIONS, WEBSITES THAT WANT TO GET
09:52:35 PUBLICITY FOR THEMSELVES.
09:52:37 THEY SAY HERE IS THE TOP TEN LIST FOR WHATEVER CITY AND
09:52:40 THEN HOPEFULLY THE CITIES AND PEOPLE IN THE CITIES WILL
09:52:42 POST THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE AND SEND LINKS AND HITS TO
09:52:45 THE WEBSITES.
09:52:46 THEY ARE FUN TO USE AND IMPORTANT IF WE'RE TRYING TO
09:52:48 BUILD A GRANT FOR TAMPA.
09:52:50 WE ALL WANT TO BE TAMPA BOOSTERS, SAY POSITIVE THINGS
09:52:53 ABOUT TAMPA, AND IT'S GREAT TO POST THOSE.
09:52:55 IF WE'RE LOOKING INTROSPECTIVELY AT WHAT WE NEED TO
09:53:01 ADDRESS, WE WOULDN'T LOOK AT THOSE AS MUCH PRESIDENT THE
09:53:03 WAY THEY ARE PUT TOGETHER IS SOMETIMES NOT SCIENTIFIC AND
09:53:06 ALSO THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE MSA, THE ENTIRE REGION, NOT
09:53:10 JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:53:11 BY THE WAY, I ALSO WORKED WITH ALEX, WHO IS THE CITY
09:53:15 COUNCIL INTERN WHO IS IN THE USF ECONOMICS PROGRAM.
09:53:19 HE HELPED US WITH AS WELL ALTHOUGH HE'S NOT ABLE TO BE
09:53:23 HERE TODAY.
09:53:24 WE LOOKED AT THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD AND HOW THEY
09:53:27 MEASURED THEMSELVES.
09:53:28 YOU MAY KNOW I SPENT FIVE YEARS IN SINGAPORE, YEAR AT THE
09:53:32 MBA PROGRAM STUDYING THE SINGAPORE MODEL AND THEN -- WE
09:53:38 CAN'T COPY THE SINGAPORE MODEL.
09:53:44 THEY NOT ONLY HIT THAT THREE YEARS AGO THEY HIT THE
09:53:49 HIGHEST PER CAPITA INCOME IN THE WORLD AND THEY CONTINUE
09:53:52 TO DO WELL ON LOTS OF DIFFERENT MEASURES.
09:53:54 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE MEASURES AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE
09:53:57 SHOULD BE SUCCESSFUL.
09:53:58 THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF KEY METRICS WE SHOULD USE, WE COULD
09:54:01 USE.
09:54:02 WHAT WE DID IS WE TALKED NOT ONLY TO DR. LIMAYEM AT USF
09:54:06 BUT TO BEAVER AT UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, ECONOMISTS AT THE
09:54:10 FLORIDA CHAMBER FOUNDATION AND OTHERS.
09:54:12 WE STUDIED HOW OTHER CITIES MEASURE THEMSELVES.
09:54:14 YOU COULD CREATE A VERY COMPLICATED MODEL WITH HUNDREDS
09:54:17 OF MEASURES.
09:54:18 BUT WHAT WE DID WITH -- JUST PICK SEVEN AND SAY SEVEN IS
09:54:23 AN EASY NUMBER FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER.
09:54:25 THEY ARE BASIC MEASURES AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
09:54:27 INPUT INTO THAT.
09:54:29 SO I'LL HIT THEM ONE AT A TIME.
09:54:32 WE COMPARE THE NUMBERS TO FLORIDA CITIES, THE MAJOR
09:54:34 FLORIDA CITIES AND ALSO TO BENCH MARK CITIES.
09:54:39 THERE IS A SUMMARY PAGE AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ONE.
09:54:42 IN TERMS OF PER CAPITA INCOME, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF
09:54:45 THE CHART, THE YELLOW LINE IS FT. LAUDERDALE.
09:54:48 IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE SHAPE OF THE LINES.
09:54:50 YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
09:54:52 YOU ALL CAN STUDY THOSE LATER.
09:54:54 TAMPA IS A DISTANT SECOND TO FT. LAUDERDALE, BUT WE'RE
09:54:58 ABOVE THE OTHER PEER CITIES IN FLORIDA.
09:55:00 MIAMI IS WAY AT THE BOTTOM.
09:55:04 THAT'S A TREND YOU'LL SEE.
09:55:05 PER CAPITA INCOME, WE DO VERY WELL.
09:55:08 SOME NUMBERS WE DO WELL AND SOME WE DON'T DO WELL.
09:55:10 THE IDEA IS TO LOOK WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE IF WE
09:55:13 DON'T DO WELL, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FUTURE.
09:55:15 THIS IS, AS WE DIG DOWN INTO THE NUMBERS AND WE CAN DIG
09:55:19 DOWN INTO ANY OF THEM AND WITH USF'S HELP WE CAN DO
09:55:22 PREDICTIVE ANALYTICS, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY TAMPA
09:55:25 DOES REALLY WELL IN PER CAPITA INCOME IS WE HAVE A HIGHER
09:55:29 PERCENTAGE OF WEALTHY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY MILLIONAIRES.
09:55:32 TAMPA HAS 7.3% OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE MORE THAN $200,000 A
09:55:36 YEAR, WHERE THE STATE OF FLORIDA AVERAGES 4.8 AND
09:55:39 ST. PETE IS 4.5.
09:55:40 JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
09:55:42 FT. LAUDERDALE ALSO HAS A VERY HIGH NUMBER OF
09:55:44 MILLIONAIRES.
09:55:45 IN TERMS OF THE BENCHMARK CITIES, WE PICKED ATLANTA,
09:55:49 AUSTIN AND CHARLOTTE BECAUSE TAMPA CHAMBER GOT BACK FROM
09:55:52 CHARLOTTE BENCHMARKING.
09:55:54 WE OFTEN COMPARE OURSELVES TO THEM AS PEER CITIES.
09:55:57 LATER YOU'LL SEE A COMPARISON OF ALL CITIES.
09:55:59 INTERESTING COMPARISON TO LOOK AT THEM.
09:56:01 YOU'LL SEE A CHANGE, THOUGH.
09:56:03 TAMPA NOW, COMPARED TO THE PEER CITIES, IS WAY AT THE
09:56:06 BOTTOM.
09:56:06 ATLANTA IS AT THE TOP AND THEN AUSTIN AND THEN CHARLOTTE.
09:56:10 FOR SETTING A PER CAPITA INCOME GOAL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE
09:56:14 SHOULD IT BE?
09:56:15 SHOULD WE TRY TO BE BEST IN THE STATE?
09:56:18 TRY TO BE BEST IN THE UNITED STATES?
09:56:19 OR TRY TO BE BETTER THAN OUR PEER CITIES?
09:56:22 AS I MENTIONED, SINGAPORE PICKED SWITZERLAND AS THEIR
09:56:25 COMPARISON BACK IN 1984.
09:56:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I ASK A QUICK REQUEST HE?
09:56:29 IT'S RELEVANT TO ALL THESE CHARTS.
09:56:32 WHEN YOU SAY TAMPA, ARE WE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OR
09:56:35 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?
09:56:35 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
09:56:38 ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IN THE VANITY RANKINGS WE'RE ONLY
09:56:40 LOOKING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:56:42 THE DATA WE USED IS CENSUS DATA.
09:56:45 ANYBODY CAN LOOK IT UP.
09:56:46 AVAILABLE READILY ONLINE.
09:56:48 THE GREAT RECESSION OFFICIALLY ENDED IN 2009.
09:56:52 WE FIGURED 2008-2009 WERE AN ANOMALY.
09:56:55 WE PICKED 2010 THROUGH 2017.
09:56:57 THERE IS 2018 DATA BUT IT'S ESTIMATED DATA AND WE WANTED
09:57:00 TO USE DATA, AT LEAST THE CENSUS DEPARTMENT WAS VERY
09:57:04 CONFIDENT IN.
09:57:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:57:08 >>BILL CARLSON: SO HERE'S AN INTERESTING THING OUR
09:57:11 RESEARCHERS FOUND.
09:57:12 AGAIN, IF WE DIG INTO THE DATA WE CAN FIND DIFFERENT
09:57:15 PIECES OF IT TO LOOK AT.
09:57:18 THIS IS INEQUALITY BY GENDER.
09:57:21 ST. PETERSBURG, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A $3,000 GAP BETWEEN THE
09:57:23 AVERAGE AMOUNT THAT MEN EARN VERSUS WOMEN.
09:57:26 TAMPA'S IS 9,000.
09:57:28 AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE OUR ECONOMY
09:57:32 AND POLICY SOLUTIONS, UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE NUMBERS
09:57:36 BEHIND THE NUMBERS IS IMPORTANT.
09:57:37 A BETTER RANKING OF INCOME IS TO LOOK AT MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD
09:57:44 INCOME BECAUSE PER CAPITA DRAWN OFF BY THE MILLIONAIRES
09:57:48 IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:57:49 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, TAMPA IS THIRD FROM THE
09:57:52 BOTTOM, KIND OF CONSISTENTLY.
09:57:54 FT. LAUDERDALE AT THE TOP.
09:57:55 THEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, JACKSONVILLE, ST. PETE.
09:57:57 IT'S INTERESTING WHEN WE LOOK AT MSA DATA, ONE OF THE
09:58:01 REASONS WHY TAMPA DOES WELL IS BECAUSE WE HAVE ST. PETE
09:58:03 IN OUR MSA.
09:58:05 A LOT OF TIMES WE THINK OF ST. PETE AS KIND OF A LITTLE
09:58:07 BROTHER, BUT FOR THE MSA, THE REGIONAL DATA, ST. PETE
09:58:11 HELPS US.
09:58:12 SOME AREAS WE DO BETTER THAN THEM, BUT A LOT OF AREAS
09:58:15 THEY DO BETTER THAN WE DO.
09:58:17 WE'RE LUCKY THAT MIAMI IS SO LOW.
09:58:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JACKSONVILLE GETS THE BENEFIT OF BEING
09:58:22 A WHOLE COUNTY, PROBABLY.
09:58:23 >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS YOU
09:58:26 CAN SLICE AND DICE.
09:58:27 IT'S INTERESTING TO LOOK AT IT AND WE REPRESENT THE CITY
09:58:29 OF TAMPA.
09:58:30 THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT THE CITY OF TAMPA ONLY.
09:58:33 THEN WE LOOKED AT MEDIAN HOW OLD INCOME COMPARED TO
09:58:36 BENCHMARK CITIES.
09:58:38 YOU SEE THAT AUSTIN IS WAY AHEAD, CHARLOTTE, THE UNITED
09:58:41 STATES AVERAGE, ATLANTA AND EVEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
09:58:46 SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT -- IT'S NOT SO
09:58:49 IMPORTANT WHERE WE'VE BEEN.
09:58:50 IT'S TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S OUR GOAL FOR THE FUTURE.
09:58:53 IF WE SET A GOAL FOR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME OR CAPITAL
09:58:58 INCOME, WHAT SHOULD THE GOAL BE?
09:59:01 THEN WE LOOKED AT MIDDLE CLASS, AND PEW FOUNDATION
09:59:02 DEFINES IT AS, I THINK, 35 TO 135 THOUSAND.
09:59:05 THE CENSUS DATA, THE CLOSEST WE COULD GET WAS 50 TO 150.
09:59:12 SO WE LOOKED AT THAT.
09:59:14 THE IMPORTANT THING TO LOOK AT HERE IS KIND OF THE SHAPE
09:59:17 OF THE CURVES.
09:59:17 OUR MIDDLE CLASS HAS BEEN GROWING, BUT THE RATE OF GROWTH
09:59:21 IN ST. PETE AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THE STATE OF FLORIDA
09:59:24 IS HIGHER THAN OURS.
09:59:26 THE TREND NATIONALLY IN MANY AREAS, THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS
09:59:28 BEEN SHRINKING.
09:59:30 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU START AND END THE MEASUREMENT,
09:59:32 OURS COULD HAVE SHRUNK AS WELL.
09:59:35 IF YOU LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY, THE MIDDLE CLASS IS
09:59:38 STAYING KIND OF STAGNANT.
09:59:40 IT IS A SMALL RATE OF GROWTH.
09:59:42 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT.
09:59:44 ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT IS TALKED ABOUT BY A LOT OF
09:59:46 PEOPLE STANDING AT THE PODIUM IS POVERTY.
09:59:49 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, TAMPA HAS THE SECOND HIGHEST
09:59:52 POVERTY RATE OF MAJOR CITIES IN FLORIDA.
09:59:54 AGAIN, WE'RE LUCKY THAT MIAMI IS A LAGGARD HERE.
09:59:59 LOOK AT ST. PETE IS WAY ON THE BOTTOM.
10:00:02 ST. PETE HAS AGGRESSIVELY ADDRESSED THEIR POVERTY ISSUE
10:00:04 OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
10:00:06 AND EVEN AMONG THE OTHER CITIES THERE.
10:00:08 THIS IS PULLING OUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BELOW
10:00:11 THE POVERTY LINE.
10:00:12 AND THEN COMPARED TO JUST LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS COMPARED TO
10:00:17 OTHER MAJOR CITIES.
10:00:19 AGAIN, OURS IS PRETTY HIGH EXCEPT COMPARED TO MIAMI.
10:00:22 THEN LOOK AT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, AND THERE'S SOME
10:00:26 RECENT DATA AS I SAID BUT NOT COMPLETELY UPDATED.
10:00:29 IF YOU LOOK AT OUR
10:00:31 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, IT'S VERY LOW.
10:00:33 IT'S BELOW, WHEN I STUDIED ECONOMICS, BELOW 6% IS BELOW
10:00:37 THE NATURAL RATE OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND SHOULDN'T REALLY GO
10:00:40 TOO FAR BELOW THAT.
10:00:42 LOOK AT ST. PETE, JUST ABOVE 4%.
10:00:44 NOW ALL OF THESE ARE LOWER.
10:00:46 BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS COMPARE TAMPA TO THE
10:00:49 OTHER MAJOR CITIES.
10:00:51 IN TERMS OF UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, AT LEAST 2017, OUR
10:00:54 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE WAS HIGHER.
10:00:56 AGAIN, IT'S NOT ABOUT LOOKING BACK.
10:00:57 IT'S FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR GOALS MIGHT BE FOR THE FUTURE.
10:01:00 HOME OWNERSHIP RATE, WHICH MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT
10:01:03 HERE.
10:01:03 THE MAYOR HAS A TASK FORCE.
10:01:05 WE ARE LOOKING AT HOME OWNERSHIP RATE.
10:01:07 ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE SINGAPORE, AGAIN, WE
10:01:10 CAN'T COPY THE SINGAPORE MODEL.
10:01:12 WE SHOULDN'T BUT THEIRS IS ALMOST 92%.
10:01:15 IT'S AN OUTLIER BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR
10:01:17 ECONOMY THAT PEOPLE OWN THEIR OWN HOMES.
10:01:20 ST. PETE'S IS ABOUT 58%.
10:01:23 THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS 65.
10:01:26 TAMPA'S IS 48.
10:01:27 AND WE HAD A GROUP HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT PRESENTED
10:01:30 AND SAID THE AFRICAN AMERICAN RATE IS 42%.
10:01:34 THIS IS AN AREA WE CAN EASILY ADDRESS.
10:01:36 THE TAMPA CHAMBER HAS A TASK FORCE FOCUSED ON HOME
10:01:39 OWNERSHIP.
10:01:40 WE HAVE THE CRAs.
10:01:41 AND ALSO THE TOOLS WITHIN THE CITY TO ADDRESS IT.
10:01:43 AGAIN, THE FACT THAT WE'RE AT 48% DOESN'T LOOK
10:01:46 PARTICULARLY GOOD, BUT IT GIVES US A LONG WAY TO GROW IF
10:01:49 WE SET A HIGHER GOAL FOR THE FUTURE.
10:01:51 THIS IS ONE THAT'S TOO BAD CHIEF DUGAN IS NOT HERE
10:01:55 ANYMORE, BUT THANK YOU TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE
10:01:59 FORCE.
10:01:59 WE HAVE THE BEST VIOLENT CRIME RATE IN THE STATE.
10:02:02 I MET WITH CHIEF OF STAFF A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND, OF
10:02:07 COURSE, HE AND THE MAYOR KNOW THIS NUMBER VERY WELL.
10:02:12 THEY USE DATA ANALYTICS TO ANALYZE HOW TO REDUCE CRIME
10:02:16 RATE.
10:02:16 THEY ARE USING THE SAME TOOLS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE
10:02:18 OTHER ISSUES ALONGSIDE WHATEVER WE DO.
10:02:21 THEY AGGRESSIVELY REDUCED THE CRIME RATE, WHICH IS WHY
10:02:24 IT'S SO LOW.
10:02:26 IF WE TAKE THE SAME KIND OF ANALYTIC TOOLS AND FOCUS ON
10:02:29 SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES AND WORK TOGETHER, WE SHOULD BE
10:02:32 ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM AS WELL.
10:02:33 EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, WE ARE HIGHER THAN OTHER CITIES
10:02:37 IN FLORIDA, BUT WE'RE WAY BELOW OUR BENCHMARK CITIES THAT
10:02:40 WE COMPARE AGAINST.
10:02:42 JUST TO END, MOEZ GAVE US THIS QUOTE, THE AMAZONS OF THE
10:02:49 WORLD GO BEYOND THE RANKINGS AND THE RHETORIC.
10:02:51 THEY LOOK AT THE FACTS AND THEY KNOW THE FACTS BETTER
10:02:53 THAN WE DO.
10:02:54 WHEN BIG COMPANIES ARE LOOKING AT TAMPA OR SMALL
10:02:56 BUSINESSES LOOKING TO RELOCATE HERE, THEY'LL LISTEN TO
10:02:59 THE VANITY RANKINGS WE GIVE THEM.
10:03:01 MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME CENSUS
10:03:04 DATA WE DO AND THEY'LL LOOK AT THE REAL NUMBERS AND
10:03:07 DECIDE IF THIS IS A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM OR NOT.
10:03:09 BY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, WE CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE
10:03:13 IN TRYING TO MOVE THESE ALONG.
10:03:14 ALSO, TAMPA CHAMBER, WHEN WE WERE IN CHARLOTTE A WEEK OR
10:03:17 TWO AGO, WE MET WITH A PERSON IN CHARGE OF A FOUNDATION
10:03:22 WHO HAD DONE AN INVESTIGATION OF POVERTY TEN YEARS AGO.
10:03:25 THEY SAID WE LOOKED AT THE ISSUE.
10:03:26 WE AGGRESSIVELY ADDRESSED IT.
10:03:27 IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, CHARLOTTE HAS REALLY DONE
10:03:30 BETTER THAN US ON THAT.
10:03:31 SOME CONCLUSIONS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE POLICY
10:03:35 AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAVE RECEIVED A FOCUS ON
10:03:37 REDUCING POVERTY.
10:03:38 BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF THE NUMBERS,
10:03:41 IT'S OUR BIGGEST ISSUE.
10:03:42 ALSO, WE NEED TO GROW THE MIDDLE CLASS AT A HIGHER RATE.
10:03:45 THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, AND I HOPE WOULD
10:03:48 BE AN OUTCOME OF THIS EVENTUALLY, IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A
10:03:51 SCORECARD TO USE TO MEASURE WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE
10:03:55 WANT TO GO AND SET GOALS.
10:03:56 THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO DEFINE A SCORECARD AND GOALS.
10:03:59 GET COMMUNITY INPUT ON IT, WORK WITH USF TO DO PREDICTIVE
10:04:04 ANALYTICS ON WHAT THE POLICY APPLICATIONS MIGHT BE TO
10:04:06 CHANGE IT AND THEN CREATE A PLAN.
10:04:08 WE HAVE TWO HATS ON WITH CRA AND CITY COUNCIL THAT WE CAN
10:04:10 ADDRESS THAT.
10:04:11 ONE LAST TOOL, THIS IS THE SEVEN METRICS ON THE LEFT AS
10:04:17 OF 2017.
10:04:18 THE NEXT COLUMN IS TAMPA'S NUMBER.
10:04:21 AND THEN WE PULLED THE BEST CITY IN FLORIDA AND THE BEST
10:04:26 CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, DIFFERENT FROM OUR BENCHMARK
10:04:29 CITIES.
10:04:29 THE RIGHT COLUMN, THERE IS A 2030 GOAL.
10:04:32 WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO, MAYBE WE CAN SCHEDULE A MONTH
10:04:35 OR TWO FROM NOW TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT, DO YOU THINK
10:04:38 THESE ARE THE RIGHT SEVEN MEASURES?
10:04:40 WE CAN ALWAYS ADD OTHER MEASURES UNDERNEATH THEM.
10:04:43 DO YOU THINK IF WE HAD A SIMPLE SCORECARD WITH FEWER THAN
10:04:45 TEN THINGS, ARE THESE THE RIGHT MEASURES?
10:04:47 WHAT SHOULD OUR GOAL BE FOR THE FUTURE?
10:04:49 I SET UP JUST BASIC WEBSITES, TAMPA SCORECARD.COM, WHICH
10:04:57 HAS THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION ON IT, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT
10:05:00 IT MORE.
10:05:00 THERE'S ALSO A SURVEY MONKEY SURVEY THAT HAS THE CHART I
10:05:04 JUST SHOWED.
10:05:04 ANYBODY WATCHING THIS ON TV, IF YOU HAVE ANY
10:05:07 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE, JUST FILL IN THE
10:05:10 BLANKS ON THOSE AND TELL US WHETHER YOU THINK THESE ARE
10:05:14 THE RIGHT MEASURES OR NOT.
10:05:15 THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME.
10:05:17 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST BEFORE I TAKE COMMENTS, JUST THANK
10:05:20 YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR THAT HARD WORK.
10:05:23 I MEAN IT.
10:05:24 THAT OBVIOUSLY TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND TO JASON AND YOUR
10:05:29 WHOLE OFFICE, DEAN, EVERYBODY.
10:05:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:32 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR LETTING
10:05:36 US USE HIS INTERN AS WELL.
10:05:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY WISH TO COMMENT?
10:05:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
10:05:43 VERY NICE.
10:05:43 I LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
10:05:45 I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFERENT, BUT I LOOK AT THINGS FROM
10:05:51 WHAT I READ IN THE PAST, THAT TAMPA WAS THE FASTEST
10:05:54 GROWING CITY EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
10:05:56 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CORRECT OR NOT.
10:05:58 I THINK IT WAS ONLY SECOND TO WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI
10:06:00 RIVER, WHICH WAS PHOENIX.
10:06:03 I LOOK AT NUMBERS ONLY AS A NUMBER.
10:06:06 THAT DOESN'T MEAN, BECAUSE THE NUMBER THAT WE TALKED
10:06:09 ABOUT IN LIFE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ALL COME FROM.
10:06:13 WHEN YOU LOOK AT TAMPA, WHY IS FT. LAUDERDALE AND
10:06:16 ST. PETE BETTER THAN WE ARE AS FAR AS INCOME?
10:06:19 I WOULD HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NEXT TO THE WATER.
10:06:22 THEY MIGHT HAVE A BENEFIT THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF LIFE.
10:06:25 THEY ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST SUICIDE RATE IF I REMEMBER IN
10:06:28 MY COURSE IN CRIMINOLOGY. I LOOK BACK AND LOOK AT THE
10:06:35 PEOPLE I WENT TO SCHOOL AND WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL, I
10:06:38 NEVER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL.
10:06:39 I WENT TO JEFFERSON.
10:06:41 WHY DO I SAY THAT?
10:06:42 I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAD TO COMPETE AGAINST THE ONLY TWO
10:06:46 OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS, HILLSBOROUGH AND PLANT.
10:06:49 THEY HAD A TRACK.
10:06:50 WE DIDN'T HAVE A TRACK.
10:06:53 WE DIDN'T HAVE A BASEBALL DIAMOND ON CAMPUS YET WE HAD TO
10:06:56 COMPETE IN BASEBALL.
10:06:58 FOOTBALL FIELD FULL OF SAND SPURS YET WE HAD TO COMPETE
10:07:01 IN FOOTBALL.
10:07:04 THE BASKETBALL COURT WAS AN OPEN FIELD.
10:07:07 WE WERE THE MINORITIES THAT WERE LEFT OUT.
10:07:09 WE REALLY WERE NOT LEFT OUT.
10:07:13 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CLASS FROM THE '50s ON TO THE
10:07:17 '60s, I VENTURE TO SAY THEY PRODUCE MORE RENOWNED
10:07:21 INDIVIDUALS -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MYSELF.
10:07:23 I WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER.
10:07:24 I ADMIT IT FROM THE FIRST GOAL.
10:07:28 BUT WE HAD GUYS LIKE DR. DENNIS PUPELLO, RENOWNED HEART
10:07:32 SURGEON.
10:07:33 WE HAD LAWYERS, RENOWNED LAWYERS.
10:07:36 WE HAD ANYTHING YOU WANTED, ANYTHING YOU WANT.
10:07:39 I GO BACK AND I TRACE IT TO ONE THING -- PARENTING.
10:07:43 THEY TAUGHT US THE RIGHT WAY.
10:07:48 THEY TAUGHT US HOW TO DO, THEY TAUGHT US WHAT TO DO AND
10:07:52 HOW TO DO IT.
10:07:53 WHEN I GO BACK AND I REALIZE WE -- WHAT DID WE HAVE IN
10:07:59 TAMPA IN THE '40s AND '50s, 12,000 CIGAR WORKERS.
10:08:03 WHAT WAGE WERE THEY EARNING?
10:08:05 MINIMUM.
10:08:06 DID IT WORK IN AIR-CONDITIONED PLACES?
10:08:08 NO.
10:08:09 DID IT WORK IN PLACES THAT WERE HARSH?
10:08:11 YES.
10:08:12 DID THEY EVER COMPLAIN?
10:08:14 NO.
10:08:15 THEY WANTED TO DO ONE THING.
10:08:17 SUCCESS FOR THEIR FAMILY, NOT FOR THEMSELVES.
10:08:20 THEY KNEW THERE WOULD BE SACRIFICE, BUT IT WAS FOR THE
10:08:23 FAMILIES.
10:08:23 I GO BACK AND I CONTINUE TO LOOK AT LIFE, WHY DID MIAMI
10:08:27 PROSPER SO QUICK AND FT. LAUDERDALE?
10:08:29 AGAIN, THE IMMIGRANTS.
10:08:31 THIS TIME WITH SOME CAPITAL BECAUSE THEY CAME FROM OTHER
10:08:34 PARTS OF THE WORLD, MAINLY SOUTH AMERICA, COLOMBIA, AND
10:08:38 VENEZUELA.
10:08:38 THEY HAD EL DINERO.
10:08:41 WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
10:08:43 WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE CLOSE TO THE WATER.
10:08:45 WHY? BECAUSE THERE WERE ALREADY IMMIGRANTS THERE FROM
10:08:47 SPANISH SPEAKING.
10:08:48 YET AT THAT TIME IN LIFE IN THE '40s AND '50s, TAMPA
10:08:52 HAD MORE CUBANS THAN ANY PLACE IN FLORIDA.
10:08:54 WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW.
10:08:55 WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE'RE BECOMING WHAT EVERYBODY ALREADY
10:08:58 IS.
10:08:59 BUT WE'RE NOT LAGGING BEHIND.
10:09:02 IT'S WHERE YOU STARTED AND WHERE THAT IS NOW IS WHERE YOU
10:09:06 CAN PRETTY WELL PINPOINT WHERE YOU'RE AT IN LIFE.
10:09:10 THOSE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.
10:09:11 I'M NOT DOTTING THE NUMBERS.
10:09:13 BUT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED WHEN
10:09:16 YOU -- THE PARENTING ERA BEFORE AND YOU GOT WHERE YOU'RE
10:09:21 AT TODAY.
10:09:22 ALTHOUGH THEY ARE BEHIND I THINK TAMPA HAS DONE DAMN WELL
10:09:25 IN EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE.
10:09:26 I NEVER COMPARED A CITY WITH ANOTHER CITY, NEVER.
10:09:29 I NEVER COMPARE MYSELF WITH ANYBODY ELSE.
10:09:32 I AM WHAT I AM.
10:09:33 I DON'T BELONG IN ANYBODY'S LEAGUE.
10:09:37 I DO WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT.
10:09:39 MAYBE I'M DIFFERENT, BUT I DON'T THINK I AM DIFFERENT.
10:09:42 I THINK I'M DIFFERENT BECAUSE I SAY I'M DIFFERENT, NOT
10:09:45 BECAUSE I WANT TO BE DIFFERENT.
10:09:47 WHEN I LOOK AT LIFE, THE ATTAINING OF A PERSON'S ABILITY
10:09:52 TO SUCCEED IS NOT WHAT YOU DO YOURSELF.
10:09:54 IT'S HOW YOU'RE NURTURED AND BROUGHT UP.
10:09:57 WHEN I WAS BROUGHT UP LIKE MOST OF US AT JEFFERSON, NOT
10:10:00 ONLY DID WE HAVE THE PARENTS, WE HAD THE WHOLE FAMILY
10:10:03 LOOKING AT US.
10:10:04 WE HAD ONE DIAMOND, CUSCADEN PARK.
10:10:07 PRODUCED TWO HALL OF FAME BASEBALL PLAYERS.
10:10:10 AL LOPEZ AND TONY LaRUSSA.
10:10:13 MAYBE THE ONLY BASEBALL PARK IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY THAT
10:10:16 HAS TWO HALL OF FAMERS.
10:10:17 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SPORTS.
10:10:19 CERTAINLY SPORTS IS PART OF IT BUT ALSO A DETRIMENT
10:10:21 BECAUSE IT TAKES AWAY FROM YOU WANTING TO LEARN.
10:10:24 YOU THINK YOU'LL MAKE IT IN THE BIG LEAGUES AND YOU'RE
10:10:27 NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
10:10:29 ONE IN 200,000 MAKE IT.
10:10:33 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR IT.
10:10:34 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
10:10:36 TO AN ERA.
10:10:36 WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, I DIDN'T KNOW ENGLISH FOR TWO
10:10:39 YEARS.
10:10:39 THEY TOLD ME NOT TO COME BACK THE FIRST YEAR.
10:10:41 JUMP OUT THE WINDOW, GO HOME, BECAUSE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
10:10:44 HELL THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
10:10:45 LIKE ME, HALF THE CLASS WAS THAT WAY.
10:10:48 BUT WE WANTED TO GET OUT FROM WHERE WE WERE, NOT TO
10:10:51 BETTER OURSELVES, BECAUSE OUR PARENTS NURTURED US TO BE A
10:10:55 GOOD CITIZEN.
10:10:56 THAT'S ALL IT WAS ABOUT.
10:10:58 IT WASN'T ABOUT MONEY.
10:10:59 WE LOOK AT THINGS IN LIFE, EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MONEY, THE
10:11:03 INCOME.
10:11:03 I UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
10:11:04 BUT YOU BETTER LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE CREATING IN
10:11:07 LIFE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
10:11:09 NOT ALL ABOUT MONEY.
10:11:10 IT'S ABOUT YOUR LIFE.
10:11:11 THERE'S A BEGINNING AND THERE'S AN END TO EVERYTHING.
10:11:15 NOTHING LIVES FOREVER.
10:11:17 NOT ONE THING LIVES FOREVER, NO MATTER WHAT SPECIES YOU
10:11:21 ARE, BUILDING, NOTHING LASTS FOREVER.
10:11:24 WHEN YOU LOOK AT SPORTS, DOES THE HIGHEST TEAM ALWAYS WIN
10:11:27 THE SERIES?
10:11:28 ABSOLUTELY NOT.
10:11:29 HOW DO YOU COMPARE THEM.
10:11:31 IT'S BY THE TEAM WHO HAS THE BEST PLAYERS THAT WANT TO GO
10:11:35 OUT AND SUCCEED.
10:11:39 THE DESIRE YOU HAVE NOT TO FALL, NOT TO MAKE A MISTAKE,
10:11:42 AND WHEN YOU FALL, GET UP AND DO IT AGAIN.
10:11:44 THE LOSER ARE THE ONES THAT NEVER GET UP.
10:11:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:11:49 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:11:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:11:53 MR. CARLSON, EXCELLENT JOB, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
10:11:59 LEARNED A LOT OF STUFF.
10:12:00 THE FIRST THING I ALWAYS DO IS PERHAPS MY RESEARCH
10:12:05 BACKGROUND, BUT TO SAY WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF THIS.
10:12:08 SO ON YOUR NOTES IT SAYS SOURCE AMERICAN COMMUNITY
10:12:11 SURVEY.
10:12:11 I SAY WHAT IS THE HECK IS THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY.
10:12:15 I'M VERY IMPRESSED TO SEE THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY
10:12:18 IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
10:12:19 THIS ALL CAME OUT OF CENSUS DATA FROM THE ANNUAL CENSUS
10:12:23 AND THAT SORT OF THING.
10:12:25 I THINK IT'S A VERY OBJECTIVE SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
10:12:29 IN CONTRAST, WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM?
10:12:33 THE VANITY STUDIES OR WHATEVER.
10:12:35 I ALWAYS CHUCKLE AT THOSE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
10:12:38 IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THAT, WE'RE THE
10:12:42 BEST CITY FOR A SUN TAN OR SOMETHING.
10:12:45 BUT ANYWAYS, I DO ALWAYS CHUCKLE AT THOSE AND TAKE THEM
10:12:49 WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
10:12:51 EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
10:12:53 GOOD SOURCE.
10:12:54 IT'S KIND OF CRUEL THAT YOU MADE JASON DO THIS AS HE WAS
10:13:00 PREPARING FOR HIS WEDDING.
10:13:02 CONGRATULATIONS TO JASON AND HIS WIFE, THEIR WEDDING THE
10:13:05 OTHER DAY.
10:13:06 IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I THINK THE BEST THING I GRAB OUT OF
10:13:09 THIS AND, CHARLIE, I AGREE WITH MANY OF YOUR COMMENTS, IS
10:13:15 THAT WE HAVE A BENCHMARK.
10:13:18 I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY EXCELLENT THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED
10:13:23 THESE SO WE KNOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I JUST CAME
10:13:27 BACK TO COUNCIL.
10:13:30 MAY 1st, WE ALL GOT SWORN IN.
10:13:33 THIS IS OUR STARTING POINT.
10:13:35 LIKE YOU SAY, IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR US TO LOOK
10:13:38 BACKWARDS AND SEE THE MISTAKES WE MADE.
10:13:39 LIKE WE WERE TALKING WITH THE CHIEF A MINUTE AGO, LOOKING
10:13:44 BACKWARDS DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD.
10:13:46 WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD.
10:13:47 IN ORDER TO LOOK FORWARD, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE
10:13:50 STARTING AT.
10:13:51 I SEE THIS AS YOUR STARTING POINT.
10:13:54 I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT THAT YOU HAVE DONE THIS BENCHMARK.
10:13:57 I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERY YEAR YOU COME BACK, STAND IN
10:14:00 FRONT OF THAT PODIUM AND REMIND US WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE
10:14:04 WE CAME FROM IN REGARD TO THOSE BENCHMARKS, BUT TODAY IS
10:14:08 THE STARTING POINT IN THAT REGARD.
10:14:10 I THINK BUILDING THE MIDDLE CLASS IS REALLY ONE OF THE
10:14:15 KEY FRAMES THAT I SAW UP THERE.
10:14:21 WE DO NEED TO DO THAT THROUGH A VARIETY OF WAYS.
10:14:24 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS
10:14:27 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:14:28 YOU BUILD YOUR WEALTH BY OWNING A HOME IN MANY CASES, AND
10:14:34 THAT'S HOW THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS COUNTRY HAD GROWN
10:14:39 OVER DECADES.
10:14:40 UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK AS A NATION, I THINK WE'VE TAKEN A
10:14:43 LITTLE TUMBLE.
10:14:45 BUT AS A COMMUNITY, I THINK WE CAN IMPROVE THAT
10:14:47 TREMENDOUSLY.
10:14:47 I THINK COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON THAT
10:14:51 IN A VERY HEALTHY WAY FOR THE LAST THREE, FOUR MONTHS AND
10:14:54 CONTINUE TO DO THAT FOR THE NEXT THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
10:14:57 ONE SLIDE I DIDN'T SEE UP THERE, I THOUGHT THE GENDER
10:15:03 SLIDE WAS INTERESTING.
10:15:04 I WOULDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY GUESSED THAT.
10:15:07 I KNOW WE STILL HAVE A GENDER DISPARITY.
10:15:11 I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THAT DIFFERENT CITIES MIGHT VARY
10:15:14 MUCH.
10:15:15 I AGREE WITH CHARLIE ALSO.
10:15:16 I DON'T REALLY GET FOCUSED ON WE'RE BETTER THAN ORLANDO
10:15:19 AND THIS, ST. PETE IS BETTER THAN US ON THAT.
10:15:23 I KNOW OUT-OF-TOWN COMPANIES LOOK AT THAT, BUT REALLY,
10:15:26 WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US
10:15:28 AND ST. PETE, IT'S NOT THAT BIG.
10:15:31 IT'S 1% HERE, 2% THERE.
10:15:34 SO I THINK IN MANY WAYS, I CELEBRATE THEIR SUCCESSES
10:15:40 BECAUSE PEOPLE GET MAD AT ME FOR SAYING IT, BUT WE ARE
10:15:45 TAMPA BAY IN MANY WAYS AND OUTSIDE COMPANIES WILL LOOK AT
10:15:47 THE BAY AREA.
10:15:50 YES, I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:15:51 WE CAN'T FIX THE WHOLE BAY AREA BECAUSE WE ARE 400,000
10:15:55 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY COUNCIL.
10:15:58 SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN FIX OURSELVES.
10:16:05 I CELEBRATE CLEARWATER, ST. PETE, CELEBRATE ALL OF THEM.
10:16:08 IF THEY ARE DOING BETTER THAN US IN SOME CATEGORIES,
10:16:11 GREAT.
10:16:11 CAN WE LEARN FROM THEM?
10:16:12 YES. WE SHOULD.
10:16:13 WE SHOULD HAVE ONE OF THE TOURS WHERE WE GO OVER AND LOOK
10:16:16 AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY COME OVER HERE AND LOOK
10:16:19 AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:16:20 IN REGARD TO GENDER, I THOUGHT ONE OF THE SLIDES WE WERE
10:16:23 MISSING -- I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OBVIOUS -- WAS RACE.
10:16:28 WAS THE RACIAL -- DID I HIT A NERVE THERE?
10:16:32 WAS RACIAL DISPARITY.
10:16:34 I'M SURE THERE PROBABLY IS A NUMBER AND A SLIDE THERE.
10:16:39 I'M SURE THERE IS A BIG DISPARITY IN TERMS OF ALL OF
10:16:43 THESE ISSUES.
10:16:46 AND WE CAN'T LEAVE THOSE OUT.
10:16:48 WITH THAT, GOOD JOB.
10:16:53 THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
10:16:55 THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS THAT IN REGARD TO
10:16:59 RACE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS COUNCIL HAS BEEN DOING
10:17:02 AND CONTINUE TO DO IS WMBE.
10:17:05 BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A $3 BILLION PIPES PROGRAM, WE
10:17:09 NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT A GOOD PORTION OF THAT MONEY IS
10:17:15 SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ACROSS ALL GENDER
10:17:22 AND RACIAL LINES.
10:17:23 THANK YOU.
10:17:25 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:17:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:30 THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, FOR BRINGING THIS
10:17:32 FORWARD, ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS, AND TO YOUR LEGISLATIVE
10:17:35 AIDE, JASON, WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS.
10:17:38 GOT HERE AT 6:30 IN THE MORNING AND THE SUN IS NOT UP AND
10:17:41 THE LIGHT IS ON IN YOUR OFFICE.
10:17:44 LOOKING HERE AT THIS SLIDE, VANITY RANKINGS, MILLENNIALS
10:17:47 ARE MENTIONED TWICE.
10:17:49 SINCE I'M THE LONE MILLENNIAL ON THIS BOARD AND HAVE BEEN
10:17:55 FOR OVER FOUR AND A HALF YEARS -- NO, I WANT TO TELL YOU
10:17:57 A COUPLE OF STORIES.
10:17:58 I GRADUATED FROM USF IN DECEMBER OF 2007.
10:18:00 ALL THE FRIENDS THAT I MADE WERE FROM OUT OF STATE --
10:18:04 OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA, NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, AND NOT A
10:18:07 SINGLE ONE STAYED AFTER GRADUATION.
10:18:10 THEY EITHER GRADUATED WITH ME IN DECEMBER OF '07 OR IN
10:18:13 THE SPRING OF 2008.
10:18:14 AND EVERYBODY LEFT.
10:18:17 THEY WENT BACK HOME.
10:18:18 ONE WENT TO BROOKSVILLE AND STILL TO THIS DAY, I GO, HOW
10:18:22 DID WE LOSE SOMEBODY TO BROOKSVILLE?
10:18:24 HE WENT TO WORK AT LOWE'S.
10:18:27 NOW HE LIVES IN VERO BEACH.
10:18:29 EVERYBODY LEFT.
10:18:30 THEY SAID THE SAME THING.
10:18:31 WHY ARE YOU LEAVING AFTER MOVING DOWN HERE AND SPENDING
10:18:34 FOUR, FIVE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN THE SUNSHINE.
10:18:36 YOU CAME FOR THE WEATHER OR CAME FOR SCHOLARSHIPS,
10:18:38 WHATEVER IT IS, THEY SAID BECAUSE TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE WHAT
10:18:41 WE NEED.
10:18:42 THEY DON'T HAVE THE JOBS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO WE'RE
10:18:45 GOING BACK HOME.
10:18:46 MY ONE FRIEND BRETT WHO WENT TO BROOKSVILLE, THE ONE I
10:18:49 REGULARLY KEEP IN CONTACT WITH WILL VISIT TAMPA ABOUT
10:18:52 ONCE A YEAR OR SO.
10:18:53 WHEN HE CAME BACK AFTER LEAVING, HE LEFT IN 2008 AND HE
10:18:58 CAME BACK TO VISIT IN 2016.
10:19:00 I SAID, WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I DO.
10:19:04 I GOT ELECTED IN '15.
10:19:05 I WORK IN CITY HALL.
10:19:07 HERE IS THE STREETCAR.
10:19:08 HERE IS CURTIS HIXON PARK.
10:19:10 EVERYTHING EXISTING AT THE TIME.
10:19:12 I GAVE HIM A TOUR.
10:19:13 AND HE SAYS, I'M SORRY THAT I LEFT.
10:19:16 I WOULD MOVE BACK HERE AND BRING MY KIDS AND WALK MY DOG
10:19:19 AND WHATNOT.
10:19:20 I'VE TOLD THE STORY BEFORE UP HERE.
10:19:22 BUT THE FACT THAT HE SAID THAT AND I CAN CONVINCE ONE
10:19:24 PERSON TO COME BACK AND SAY LOOK HOW MUCH WE'VE CHANGED
10:19:28 IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, I THINK WE CAN SELL THAT
10:19:31 MESSAGE TO OTHER PEOPLE.
10:19:33 FAST-FORWARD TO 2019 AND LOOKING AT OUR POPULATION
10:19:36 GROWTH.
10:19:36 I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 55 TO 58 THOUSAND NEW PEOPLE HAVE
10:19:39 COME TO THIS AREA.
10:19:41 GROWING UP, I LIVED NEAR TAMPA BAY MALL.
10:19:44 WE WOULD GO TO TAMPA BAY MALL WHICH IS NO LONGER THERE,
10:19:46 AND YOU WOULD SEE SOMEBODY YOU KNEW.
10:19:48 SOME OLD MAN SITTING IN THE FOOD COURT WITH NOTHING TO DO
10:19:51 THAT YOU KNEW OR FRIENDS SHOPPING OR WHATNOT.
10:19:54 NOW YOU GO TO INTERNATIONAL MALL AND YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE
10:19:57 ANYBODY.
10:19:57 ALL NEW PEOPLE.
10:19:58 YOU GO DOWN TO THE RIVERWALK AND HEAR DIFFERENT
10:20:00 LANGUAGES.
10:20:01 ARMATURE WORKS ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND 2,000 PEOPLE AND I
10:20:04 AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THINK YOU'LL GET STOPPED
10:20:07 EVERYWHERE LIKE YOU WOULD AT THE GROCERY STORE.
10:20:09 I CAN GO FREELY AS A GHOST AND NOBODY RECOGNIZES ME AND I
10:20:13 DON'T RECOGNIZE ANYBODY BECAUSE IT'S ALL NEW PEOPLE.
10:20:15 WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM AND ASK THEM, HOW LONG BEEN HERE?
10:20:18 I MOVED IN 2016, 2018.
10:20:20 I LIVED HERE SIX MONTHS.
10:20:22 I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE APARTMENTS.
10:20:24 WHATEVER.
10:20:25 HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH MY MOTHER YESTERDAY WHO HAS
10:20:27 BEEN HERE SINCE 1962, SHE SAYS TAMPA IS REALLY ON THE
10:20:31 MAP.
10:20:31 THERE WAS A MARKETING CAMPAIGN IN THE EARLY '80s,
10:20:34 SAYING TAMPA THE NEXT GREAT AMERICAN CITY.
10:20:36 MAYOR BUCKHORN BROUGHT IT UP MANY, MANY TIMES.
10:20:38 THERE WAS A PERIOD WHERE IT WAS STAGNANT, THERE WAS
10:20:41 GROWTH, BUT NOT LIKE IT IS NOW.
10:20:42 PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING HERE, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE.
10:20:45 RELOCATING FOR JOBS, RELOCATING HERE BECAUSE OF THE
10:20:48 NEIGHBORHOODS FOR WHATEVER REASONS, BUT THEY ARE COMING
10:20:50 TO TAMPA.
10:20:51 WE'RE NOT LOSING THEM TO CHARLOTTE.
10:20:52 NOT LOSING THEM TO MIAMI, ALTHOUGH MIAMI HAS ITS GROWTH.
10:20:56 AS I TRAVEL THE STATE BECAUSE I LIKE ROAD TRIPS AND SEE
10:20:59 OTHER CITIES AND I LIKE TO TRAVEL IN GENERAL WHEN I CAN,
10:21:02 TAMPA OFFERS THE PERFECT BALANCE.
10:21:04 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT OF STATE FOR COLLEGE AND
10:21:06 I DIDN'T.
10:21:06 I REMEMBER TAKING THE LSAT WITH MY FRIEND AGAIN, BRETT
10:21:11 AND WE HAD PLANS TO GO TO MICHIGAN AFTER WE GRADUATED
10:21:15 USF.
10:21:15 HE WENT UP THERE, SAID FOUND THE PERFECT APARTMENT, DO
10:21:18 THIS AND THAT, EVERYTHING WAS ORGANIZED AND READY TO GO.
10:21:21 I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MY MOTHER IN YBOR
10:21:24 CITY.
10:21:24 I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO KILL ME.
10:21:26 I DON'T WANT TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
10:21:29 ONE IS I'M SCARED IF I LEAVE I WON'T COME BACK HERE AND I
10:21:33 LOVE TAMPA THAT MUCH.
10:21:34 THIS WAS BACK IN 2008 OR SO.
10:21:35 RIGHT AFTER GRADUATION.
10:21:37 I'M GLAD I DIDN'T LEAVE.
10:21:38 I STARTED AT UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE I WANTED TO STAY
10:21:41 HERE AND DROPPED OUT AFTER A YEAR BECAUSE I COULDN'T
10:21:43 AFFORD IT.
10:21:44 HCC, USF, I KEPT IT LOCAL.
10:21:47 EVEN IN THOSE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE WERE LEAVING, I MADE IT A
10:21:51 POINT TO STAY HERE.
10:21:52 I SAID TAMPA OFFERS THE PERFECT BALANCE.
10:21:54 THE LAST TIME I WAS IN MIAMI WAS THREE AND A HALF YEARS
10:21:57 AGO, I REMEMBER DRIVING INTO DOWNTOWN ONE MONDAY MORNING
10:22:00 AND HAVING A PANIC ATTACK GOING.
10:22:02 THIS IS CRAZY.
10:22:03 LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC HERE.
10:22:04 I DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE THIS DOWNTOWN BECAUSE I HADN'T
10:22:06 BEEN THERE SINCE I WAS A KID.
10:22:07 EVERYTHING WAS DEMOLISHED.
10:22:09 EVERYTHING IS NEW.
10:22:10 WHERE DO I PARK?
10:22:11 BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
10:22:12 YOU COME DOWN TO TAMPA, AND IT'S SO MUCH EASIER.
10:22:14 IT'S A PERFECT BALANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE HISTORY,
10:22:16 WHAT'S NEW, THE GROWTH, EVERYTHING.
10:22:17 IT'S JUST WHAT I NEED.
10:22:19 I DON'T THINK I WOULD EVER LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE UNLESS I
10:22:22 RETIRE SOMEWHERE.
10:22:24 BUT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU'VE SHOWN THE GOOD AND THE
10:22:27 BAD, WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT'S FINE.
10:22:31 WE NEED TO DO THESE KIND OF SETTINGS.
10:22:34 CAN'T JUST BE EVERYTHING IS SEEN THROUGH ROSE-COLORED
10:22:38 GLASSES AS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, EVERYTHING IS GREAT,
10:22:41 EVERYTHING BUILT, WHATNOT.
10:22:43 I THINK OUR TIME IS NOW.
10:22:44 THE REASON I RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN 2011 WHEN I RAN AND
10:22:48 LOSS BECAUSE YOU COULD SENSE THE GREATNESS OF WHAT WAS
10:22:53 COMING.
10:22:54 WE WERE COMING OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION BUT THE
10:22:56 INTEREST IN TAMPA WAS HERE IN WAYS I DON'T THINK WE'VE
10:22:58 SEEN SINCE THE 1920s, WHEN WE HAD SO MUCH GROWTH TO
10:23:02 BEGIN WITH ALMOST A CENTURY AGO.
10:23:04 I RAN IN 2015 AND WON.
10:23:06 THE PEOPLE GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PRIVILEGE TO
10:23:09 DO SO, BUT I WANTED TO BE HERE NOW.
10:23:12 PEOPLE WOULD TELL ME, IF YOU LOSE, DON'T WORRY, YOU CAN
10:23:15 COME BACK IN 10, 20 YEARS AND YOU'LL STILL BE YOUNG.
10:23:18 LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT THAT.
10:23:20 BUT I WANTED TO BE HERE NOW BECAUSE OF SO MUCH GOING ON.
10:23:23 LOOK AT THE CRANES, LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION ALL AROUND
10:23:26 THIS AREA.
10:23:27 I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TO WITNESS THIS RENAISSANCE THAT I
10:23:29 THINK WE'RE LIVING, AT LEAST IN MY LIFETIME AND IN MY
10:23:33 MOTHER'S LIFETIME WHO HAS BEEN HERE OVER 50 YEARS.
10:23:37 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THERE ARE AREAS THAT NEED
10:23:39 IMPROVEMENT AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT.
10:23:41 WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:23:43 THAT'S HUGE.
10:23:44 TAMPA REALLY IS NOT AFFORDABLE AND WE HAVE A LACK
10:23:46 THEREOF.
10:23:47 WE TALK ABOUT GENDER INEQUALITY.
10:23:50 WE TALK ABOUT RACIAL INEQUALITY.
10:23:51 WE HAD THE POLICE CHIEF HERE.
10:23:53 THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:23:58 I REMEMBER THE COMMENT I MADE, IT'S 2015 BUT FEELS LIKE
10:24:02 1965.
10:24:03 WHATEVER, WHEN THAT STORY CAME OUT.
10:24:06 THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER, BUT THERE ARE AREAS THAT WE
10:24:09 NEED TO FOCUS ON.
10:24:10 YOU BROUGHT THIS UP AND THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO BEGIN
10:24:13 WITH.
10:24:14 AS COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER SAID, THIS IS A NEW TIME.
10:24:17 WE GOT SWORN IN MAY 1st, AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY IN
10:24:21 THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO BUILD UPON THE AREAS THAT NEED TO
10:24:24 BE BUILT UPON.
10:24:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:24:28 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:24:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU VERY, VERY
10:24:31 MUCH.
10:24:32 JASON, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND
10:24:35 TO THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE I USED TO HAVE, THANK HIM VERY
10:24:38 MUCH FOR ME.
10:24:39 TAMPA IS NOT THE CITY THAT IT WAS WHEN I MOVED HERE IN
10:24:45 1974.
10:24:46 THE GREAT STRIDES THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED.
10:24:49 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE -- ONE THING I'D LIKE TO
10:24:52 SEE THROWN INTO THE MATRIX THE NEXT TIME YOU PRESENT THIS
10:24:55 AND I HOPE YOU DO PRESENT IT AGAIN IS RETIREMENT.
10:24:58 WHAT IS OUR RETIREMENT COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO PORT ST.
10:25:01 LUCIE OR FT. LAUDERDALE, OR ST. PETERSBURG?
10:25:05 IN MY OPINION, THAT STABILIZES THEIR ECONOMY A LITTLE BIT
10:25:08 MORE.
10:25:08 BUT I THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS, AND I HOPE THAT WE
10:25:12 GET TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN.
10:25:14 AGAIN, THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR US.
10:25:16 LET'S LOOK FORWARD TO TAMPA, HOW MUCH BETTER WE CAN MAKE
10:25:20 TAMPA.
10:25:20 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:25:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:25:26 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GREAT JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION, YOU
10:25:28 AND YOUR STAFF.
10:25:29 I WISH WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR MATRIX TALKING
10:25:33 ABOUT EQUALITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE
10:25:37 FOR EVERYONE IS THE SAME.
10:25:39 AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
10:25:42 WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES, WHAT I CALL
10:25:45 ROADBLOCKS.
10:25:46 HEARD ME SAY THAT MANY TIMES.
10:25:48 IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE ROAD
10:25:52 BLOCKS.
10:25:53 THAT'S WHY I'M EAGER TO PUT MOTIONS IN TO TAKE DOWN THOSE
10:25:57 BARRIERS AND THOSE ROADBLOCKS.
10:25:59 ESPECIALLY WE TALK ABOUT HIRING PRACTICES, HOUSING
10:26:03 PRACTICES.
10:26:04 A LOT OF TIMES EVEN WITH OUR OWN WORKFORCE HERE, WE'VE
10:26:06 GOT SOME PRACTICES THAT I THINK SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
10:26:13 PEOPLE NOT GETTING HIRED BY THE CITY.
10:26:15 SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF CAVEAT TO GET THEM INTO THE
10:26:17 WORKFORCE.
10:26:18 THE PROFESSOR ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT YOU CAN HAVE A JOB, AND
10:26:24 YOU CAN MAKE SOME GOOD MONEY AT A JOB, BUT WHAT ARE THE
10:26:28 BENEFITS?
10:26:30 BENEFITS ARE KEY TO A JOB?
10:26:32 I COULD GO MAKE SOME MONEY AND BE A WELDER, BUT WHERE ARE
10:26:38 MY BENEFITS?
10:26:40 WHERE IS MY REQUIREMENT?
10:26:42 MANY IN THE CITY WANT TO BE CITY WORKERS BECAUSE THERE
10:26:44 ARE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THE PACKAGES.
10:26:46 HEALTH CARE.
10:26:47 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET INTO THE WORKFORCE.
10:26:52 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL.
10:26:54 HOUSING.
10:26:55 ROADBLOCKS WITH HOUSING.
10:26:56 I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
10:26:58 OUR ELDERLY SENIORS, 30 YEARS, STILL CAN'T GET APARTMENT.
10:27:05 THE SIMPLE ROADBLOCKS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
10:27:08 I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH
10:27:10 YOUR STUDY THAT WE INCLUDE SOME OF THESE OTHER TYPES OF
10:27:13 MATRIX SO WE CAN GET COUNTERMEASURES TO STOP BAD
10:27:17 PRACTICES LINGERING FOR YEARS.
10:27:19 I CAN TELL YOU AS A NEW COUNCILMAN, THESE ARE THE THINGS
10:27:24 I'LL BE LOOKING AND FIGHTING FOR TO CHANGE SOME OF THE
10:27:26 BAD BEHAVIORS WE'VE BEEN DOING A WHILE.
10:27:30 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
10:27:31 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST TO PUT IN MY THOUGHTS AGAIN, GREAT
10:27:34 JOB, COUNCILMAN, TO YOU AND YOUR OFFICE AS WELL AS TO MY
10:27:38 CONSTITUENT DEAN LIMAYEM.
10:27:41 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
10:27:42 YOU BRING A LOT OBVIOUSLY TO THIS.
10:27:44 WHEN I WAS -- I'M ALWAYS A BIG HISTORY GUY.
10:27:48 I THOUGHT ABOUT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL IN THE EARLY 1960s
10:27:53 WHEN THINGS WERE OPTIMISTIC AND THERE WAS INFLUENCE AND
10:27:58 THEN A BOOK BY A GENTLEMAN CALLED "THE OTHER AMERICA"
10:28:02 THAT REMINDS US, LISTEN, THINGS ARE GOING WELL.
10:28:04 THERE IS ALSO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE UNITED STATES, THE
10:28:10 OTHER SIDE OF AMERICA THAT GOES WITHOUT.
10:28:12 WE SEE HISTORICALLY HOW THE ECONOMY JUST DROPPED OFF FOR
10:28:15 THE MIDDLE CLASS FROM THE END OF WORLD WAR II UNTIL ABOUT
10:28:18 THE 1970s, ALL SECTORS OF THE AMERICAN WORKER GREW
10:28:23 TOGETHER.
10:28:24 IN FACT, THE TOP 20% MADE ABOUT AS MUCH OF AN INCOME
10:28:29 INCREASE AS THE BOTTOM.
10:28:31 EVERYBODY GREW TOGETHER IN PART.
10:28:33 NOT JUST THE POST WAR BOON.
10:28:35 BUT LABOR UNIONS.
10:28:36 35% OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR WAS IN LABOR UNIONS.
10:28:38 WE WERE SUPPORTED BY NEW PROGRAMS, SOMETHING CALLED THE
10:28:41 MINIMUM WAGE AND CHILD LABOR 1930s, EXPANSION OF SOCIAL
10:28:46 SECURITY DISABILITY.
10:28:48 1960s, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THAT
10:28:51 HELPED THE MIDDLE CLASS AND HELPED PEOPLE DESPERATELY
10:28:54 TRYING TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
10:28:55 THEN IN THE 1970s, DUE TO A NUMBER OF ISSUES, THE
10:28:59 BOTTOM OF THE ECONOMY FELL OUT FOR SO MANY AMERICAN
10:29:02 WORKERS.
10:29:02 WE EXPERIENCED THAT HERE.
10:29:04 WE SEE THAT IN TAMPA.
10:29:05 LOOK AT DIFFERENT AREAS LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS, PARTS OF
10:29:08 EAST TAMPA, PARTS OF TERRACE PARK, OFF OF NEBRASKA,
10:29:11 ET CETERA, WHERE CHILDHOOD POVERTY IS ABOUT DOUBLE WHAT
10:29:16 WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, 50, 60, 65%.
10:29:19 THE ISSUE IS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
10:29:22 I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS PUTTING FORTH A NUMBER OF
10:29:25 GOOD IDEAS.
10:29:26 COUNCIL IS PUTTING FORTH A NUMBER OF GOOD IDEAS.
10:29:28 SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING
10:29:31 WITH STAFF ABOUT AND PUSH FORWARD, PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE
10:29:35 CLASS FOR A LOT OF LOWER INCOME FOLKS WHICH IS
10:29:37 ENCOURAGING APPRENTICESHIPS THROUGH WHATEVER MEASURES WE
10:29:41 CAN HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:29:42 SEEING IF WE CAN TAKE THAT 18-, 19-YEAR-OLD LEAVING HIGH
10:29:46 SCHOOL WITH MAYBE NOT THE BEST FUTURE IN THEIR OWN EYES
10:29:49 AND THEN PUTTING THEM ON A PATH THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY
10:29:52 HAVE THEM EARNING 40, 50, 60 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN A JOB
10:29:58 THROUGH A SKILLED TRADE.
10:29:59 I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE APPRENTICESHIPS
10:30:01 HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:30:02 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE PUT THEIR MARK
10:30:05 ON.
10:30:05 I AM TAKING A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.
10:30:08 THIS ALSO REQUIRES US TO ALSO WORK WITH OTHER LOCAL
10:30:11 GOVERNMENTS, SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE ON.
10:30:13 WE ALL AGREE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT EDUCATION IS THE PATHWAY
10:30:16 TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
10:30:17 WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IN
10:30:19 MAKING SURE WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE CAN IN OUR INDIVIDUAL
10:30:21 POSITIONS TO IMPROVE EDUCATION, ET CETERA.
10:30:24 SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING.
10:30:27 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS.
10:30:30 YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, AND WE'RE
10:30:32 GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US.
10:30:34 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:30:36 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I DO A QUICK WRAP-UP?
10:30:40 JUST TO THANK USF AND JASON.
10:30:44 USF DID THIS PRO BONO.
10:30:45 THEY HAVE LOTS OF DATA ANALYTICS.
10:30:45 THEY HELPED THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP TO CRUNCH NUMBERS,
10:30:47 SLICE AND DICE NUMBERS IN ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS.
10:30:49 WE TRIED TO KEEP THIS BASIC THING SIMPLE, BUT WE OR THEY
10:30:53 CAN GO THROUGH AND SLICE IT UP ANY WAY THEY WANT.
10:30:56 TWO QUICK ANALOGIES TO END WITH.
10:30:59 MANY PEOPLE KNOW I AM A STAR WARS FAN.
10:31:01 DISNEY JUST OPENED UP GALAXY'S EDGE.
10:31:04 THEY ARE GETTING LOTS OF PUBLICITY ABOUT OPENING THIS NEW
10:31:06 STAR WARS AREA.
10:31:07 THEY HAVE A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE COMING UP.
10:31:09 ULTIMATELY IN A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THE
10:31:12 SHAREHOLDERS ARE GOING TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, HOW DID THAT
10:31:19 CHANGE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WENT TO DISNEY?
10:31:19 HOW DID IT CHANGE OUR REVENUES?
10:31:20 HOW DID IT CHANGE OUR PROFITS?
10:31:20 HOW DID IT CHANGE OUR HOTEL STAYS?
10:31:22 THE SAME THING HERE, THE CAPITAL MARKETS ARE REALLY A
10:31:26 PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET INFORMATION.
10:31:28 IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, IN THE GOVERNMENT SECTOR, IT'S HARD
10:31:31 TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MEASURES YOU SHOULD USE.
10:31:33 THERE ARE MEASURES THAT MAKE US LOOK REALLY GOOD AND
10:31:35 MEASURES THAT MAKE US LOOK REALLY BAD.
10:31:37 IF WE HAVE AN OBJECTIVE SET OF MEASURES IT WILL HELP
10:31:40 GUIDE US IN THE FUTURE.
10:31:41 LAST ANALOGY, TEN YEARS AGO, THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR
10:31:44 THE TAMPA AIRPORT WAS -- I'LL PARAPHRASE SLIGHTLY, BUT IT
10:31:48 WAS TO PROVIDE EFFICIENT, COST-EFFECTIVE SERVICE FOR
10:31:51 AIRLINES.
10:31:51 MANY OF YOU KNOW A GROUP OF US WORKED TO TRY TO CHANGE
10:31:55 THAT.
10:31:56 WE BROUGHT IN NEW MANAGEMENT AT THE AIRPORT AS ACTIVISTS
10:31:58 AND WE CREATED A NEW MISSION STATEMENT WHICH IS TO MAKE
10:32:01 THE TAMPA AIRPORT AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE REASON.
10:32:04 INSTEAD OF MEASURING THE COST PER PASSENGER FEE, WHICH
10:32:08 THEY WERE DOING BEFORE, INSTEAD THEY LOOKED AT THE IMPACT
10:32:11 ON THE COMMUNITY.
10:32:11 AND PART OF THAT WAS TO MEASURE THE NUMBER OF
10:32:13 INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS AND THE NUMBER OF DOMESTIC FLIGHTS
10:32:14 THAT CAME IN.
10:32:15 THEY HELPED TRANSFORM OUR REGION.
10:32:18 THE POINT IS THAT IF YOU HAVE GOOD MANAGEMENT IN, WHICH I
10:32:20 THINK WE HAVE HERE NOW, AND IF WE MEASURE THE RIGHT
10:32:22 THINGS, WE CAN GET BIG RESULTS.
10:32:24 WE JUST NEED TO WATCH THE NUMBERS.
10:32:27 THANK YOU ALL FOR INDULGING ME.
10:32:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:32:29 IF WE TRY HARD AND DON'T SUCCEED, THEN THE VOTERS WILL
10:32:32 TELL US THAT YOU HAVE FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME.
10:32:34 THAT IS A STAR WARS LINE.
10:32:36 NEXT WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:32:51 BEFORE WE GO, SAL, HOW ARE YOU DOING TIMEWISE?
10:32:55 ARE YOU SURE?
10:32:57 JUST MAKING SURE.
10:32:58 PUBLIC COMMENT, WE APPEAR TO HAVE -- WHO IS HERE FOR
10:33:02 PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU ALL COULD RAISE YOUR HAND.
10:33:04 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:33:11 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:33:13 >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, PAUL CURTIS.
10:33:18 YOU PROBABLY RECALL FROM MY LETTER DATED AUGUST THE
10:33:23 20th FROM NIELSEN SURETY COMPANY, MY BONDING COMPANY,
10:33:28 WHO HAS OFFERED A $20 MILLION SURETY BOND FOR PUBLIC
10:33:34 CONSTRUCTION IN SUPPORT OF THE MOST UNDERUTILIZED GROUP
10:33:40 OF WMBE FIRMS, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE AFRICAN AMERICANS.
10:33:45 I NEED TO STATE, BECAUSE I REPRESENT SEVERAL GROUPS, I'M
10:33:51 ALSO A MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH BOARD, A
10:33:57 WASHINGTON, D.C. BASED THINK TANK WHO PROVIDES RESEARCH
10:34:02 SUPPORT TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:34:06 WE OPERATE AN OVERSIGHT, IF YOU WILL, OF EVERY U.S.
10:34:16 D.O.T. GRANTEE WHO HAS A DBE OR MBE PROGRAM, INCLUDING
10:34:23 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:34:28 I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SUNCOAST MINORITY
10:34:32 CONTRACTOR ALLIANCE, A STATEWIDE GROUP OF ONE DOZEN
10:34:39 AFRICAN AMERICAN CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS THAT ESPOUSES
10:34:45 POLITICAL ADVOCACY, GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS AND TRAINING
10:34:52 AND, OF COURSE, FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT NOT TODAY, I
10:34:56 REPRESENT THE AMERICAN LEGION VETERAN SMALL BUSINESS TASK
10:35:00 FORCE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
10:35:02 AS FAR AS THE WMBE PROGRAM IS CONCERNED, WELL, YOU ALL
10:35:07 HAVE A REPORT.
10:35:11 THE AFRICAN AMERICAN SEGMENT OF THE WMBE POPULATION IS
10:35:14 PRETTY MUCH IN DESPAIR.
10:35:16 I THINK THAT THE MAYOR IS DUE KUDOS FOR INCLUDING A
10:35:26 DISPARITY STUDY IN HER BUDGET, WHICH IS NOW APPROVED, AND
10:35:30 I WOULD SALUTE THIS COUNCIL IF YOU MOVE SWIFTLY TO
10:35:37 ATTEMPT TO ENGAGE A DISPARITY CONSULTANT, YOU CAN IMPRESS
10:35:41 ME IF YOU ADVERTISE WITH SOMEBODY BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
10:35:45 A COUPLE OF THINGS, NOT TO TAKE TOO LONG, IS THAT I THINK
10:35:56 AFRICAN AMERICAN GROUP IN TAMPA IS SO DISENFRANCHISED, IT
10:36:02 WOULD REQUIRE EXTREME OUTREACH.
10:36:06 I DON'T MEAN LIKE THE OUTREACH EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE WITH
10:36:10 ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
10:36:12 I MEAN SPECIFIC TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN GROUP.
10:36:21 AND THAT CAN DRAW PEOPLE OUT INCLUDING UTILIZING THE
10:36:28 PIPES PROGRAM TO ADVENT METHODS SUCH AS THE HUD SECTION 3
10:36:36 INVOLVING THE CITIZENS.
10:36:38 SEVERAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE JUST THIS MORNING ABOUT
10:36:42 INCREASING THE MIDDLE CLASS.
10:36:44 IF THE CITY IS GOING TO SPEND $3 BILLION AND $300 MILLION
10:36:50 WORTH OF WORK, ADVERTISE TODAY ON THE STREET AS WE SPEAK.
10:36:55 SOMEHOW, THE DOLLARS SHOULD BE CAPTURED AND SOMEHOW
10:37:00 APPLIED TO THE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:37:04 IF IT WORKS ON HUD, IF IT WORKS ON HOUSING, IT WILL WORK
10:37:08 ON THIS.
10:37:08 IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO.
10:37:12 I THINK THAT IMPROVING THE ANALYTICS, COLLECTING THE DATA
10:37:20 OF SUCCESS OR FAILURE IS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE DON'T
10:37:24 KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.
10:37:26 IT'S BEEN, I DON'T KNOW, 16 YEARS SINCE THERE WAS A
10:37:29 DISPARITY STUDY.
10:37:31 THAT'S A LOT OF YEARS.
10:37:32 WHO'S HERE.
10:37:33 WHO WENT OUT OF BUSINESS BEFORE THE RECESSION AND DIDN'T
10:37:36 COME BACK?
10:37:37 MY OFFICE OVER IN OAK PARK, 20 YEARS AGO, WE HAD 10
10:37:44 AFRICAN AMERICAN CONTRACTORS WITHIN ONE MILE OF MY
10:37:47 OFFICE.
10:37:48 PLENTY OF THEM ARE DEAD OR GONE NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO
10:37:52 REPLENISH.
10:37:53 PEOPLE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS WITH THE RECESSION, WELL,
10:37:55 THAT HAPPENED EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING HERE.
10:37:57 WE'VE GOT TO BRING THEM BACK.
10:37:59 IT MAY TAKE EXTREME TYPE OUTREACH, TRAINING, SOME OF THE
10:38:04 GRANTS THAT ARE GOING TO NONPROFITS COULD GO TO AFRICAN
10:38:10 AMERICAN CONTRACTOR TRADE GROUPS FOR LICENSING.
10:38:15 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LICENSEES.
10:38:17 I'M NOT GOING TO STAY HERE ALL DAY.
10:38:20 I APPRECIATE THE HEADS UP TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THE
10:38:23 TOPIC, I'LL BE PLEASED TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION THAT
10:38:27 ANYBODY WOULD LIKE.
10:38:30 I'M ON THE RECORD.
10:38:31 CONTACT ME.
10:38:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:38:37 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:38:38 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:38:41 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:38:42 CONNIE BURTON.
10:38:43 THERE WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTIST GROUP THAT TALKED --
10:38:48 THAT RECORDED A SONG AND IT WAS CALLED "SMILING FACES
10:38:55 SOMETIMES PRETEND."
10:38:56 SOMETIMES THROUGHOUT THOSE FACES WE CAN'T SEE THE EVIL
10:38:59 THAT LURKS WITHIN.
10:39:00 I APPRECIATE YOUR METRICS REPORT THIS MORNING BECAUSE WE
10:39:05 GOT TO HAVE A STARTING POINT.
10:39:07 SOME PEOPLE BEEN AROUND IN THIS CITY COUNCIL, CAME BACK,
10:39:13 GLAD TO SEE YOU.
10:39:15 LOOK AROUND, SOME OF THE CONDITIONS STILL REMAIN THE SAME
10:39:18 AND WE GOT TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
10:39:21 AS A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR ME, I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO
10:39:26 GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SEND OUT SUGGESTIONS AND TO THE
10:39:29 COMMUNITY SO WE CAN PUSH THIS BALL ALONG.
10:39:33 WHAT WAS WRENCHING FOR ME TO LOOK AT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT
10:39:37 CRIME STATISTICS AND HOW LOW TAMPA WAS AND I LOOK INSIDE
10:39:40 THE COMMUNITY AND SEE ALL OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES ARE
10:39:42 NEED, YOU KNOW WHY?
10:39:43 BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INCARCERATED.
10:39:46 WE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
10:39:48 PEOPLE ARE INCARCERATED SO NOW GRANDMOTHERS AND MOTHERS
10:39:51 AND AUNTIES RAISE THESE CHILDREN, AND THE PLACE OF
10:39:55 REUNION FOR A LOT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE,
10:39:58 UNFORTUNATELY, IS AT THE COURTHOUSE, BECAUSE WE SEE
10:40:01 PEOPLE COMING AND GOING EVERY DAY.
10:40:04 WE TALK ABOUT THE WEALTH GAP.
10:40:07 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING.
10:40:09 WE TALK ABOUT WATCHING INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA HOMES BEING
10:40:12 BUILT AT $250,000 AND PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT
10:40:17 IS THE NEW TREND, IT IS NOT WORKING FOR US.
10:40:20 WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON REPEATING THE SAME THING UNTIL
10:40:23 SOMEBODY UP THERE GET IT.
10:40:25 WHEN WE SEE MONIES MOVING AROUND TO IMPRESS AND DIVIDE
10:40:27 OUR COMMUNITY, WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.
10:40:36 WE WANT A SERIOUS DISCUSSION AROUND HOME OWNERSHIP THAT
10:40:39 WILL ENCOMPASS UPON PEOPLE INSIDE THE WORKING POOR.
10:40:45 WE DON'T SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING NO MORE BECAUSE THAT BEEN
10:40:48 HIJACKED.
10:40:49 PEOPLE WORKING AT THE WALMARTS AND THE CHECKERS AND THE
10:40:52 McDONALD'S, THEY NEED TO HAVE A DECENT PLACE TO STAY
10:40:56 OUTSIDE OF THESE HOTELS IN WHICH THEY ARE FINDING
10:40:59 THEMSELVES HAVING TO CALL HOME.
10:41:01 WE NEED THAT DISCUSSION.
10:41:02 AGAIN, AS WE TELL THE MAYOR AND THE TRANSITION TIME AND
10:41:06 TO YOU ALL THAT WAS ELECTED JUST RECENTLY, THE CLOCK IS
10:41:10 TICKING.
10:41:11 I'M HOPING THAT THE VOTERS ARE SMARTER THAN WE WERE FOUR
10:41:15 YEARS AGO, AND WE DON'T CONTINUE THIS CYCLE OF LETTING
10:41:18 PEOPLE MAKE PROMISES TO US WITHOUT DELIVERY.
10:41:22 THANK YOU.
10:41:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:41:23 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:41:29 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:41:31 MY NAME IS ELTON.
10:41:33 POLITICAL ORGANIZER ON BEHALF OF ORGANIZE FLORIDA.
10:41:36 I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF MY MEMBERS WHO WERE
10:41:39 UNABLE TO COME THIS MORNING.
10:41:42 THEY HAVE A SITUATION, A LIVING SITUATION BEING
10:41:47 EX-FELONS, THEY ARE HAVING VERY MUCH DIFFICULTY FINDING
10:41:50 HOUSING.
10:41:51 WHAT THEY WANTED TO CONVEY TO YOU TODAY IS THEY NEED
10:41:57 HELP.
10:41:57 THEY COMMITTED THE CRIMES OVER TEN YEARS AGO.
10:42:00 AS PEOPLE, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO REINTEGRATE INTO SOCIETY,
10:42:04 THEY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE.
10:42:05 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU COMPLETED YOUR SENTENCE,
10:42:09 YOU'RE BACK OUT IN SOCIETY BUT YOU CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO
10:42:12 HIMSELF.
10:42:13 YOU CAN'T FIND A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE.
10:42:14 IT'S DIFFICULT AS WELL TO FIND JOBS.
10:42:17 ULTIMATELY, THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LIFE SENTENCE WHEN THE
10:42:21 JUDGE ONLY GAVE THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
10:42:23 WHAT I WANTED TO CONVEY TO YOU TODAY IS WE NEED PROGRAMS
10:42:27 THAT HELP THESE PEOPLE.
10:42:28 THEY NEED ASSISTANCE.
10:42:29 I MYSELF AM AN EX-FELON.
10:42:32 IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO FIND HOUSING.
10:42:34 I THANK GOD THAT I HAD A SUPPORT SYSTEM THROUGH FAMILY
10:42:36 AND FRIENDS WHERE I WAS ABLE TO SEEK SOME HELP IN THOSE
10:42:40 ARENAS.
10:42:40 I FOUND A JOB WITH AN ORGANIZATION WHO DIDN'T LOOK AT MY
10:42:44 BACKGROUND.
10:42:44 THEY LOOKED AT ME TODAY AND SAW THAT I COULD DO THE JOB.
10:42:48 I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
10:42:49 I'M SAYING THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THAT
10:42:51 TYPE OF ASSISTANCE.
10:42:52 THEY DON'T HAVE FAMILY TO HELP THEM.
10:42:53 THEY DON'T HAVE FRIENDS.
10:42:54 THEY DON'T HAVE A SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR WHEN THEY ARE TRYING
10:42:56 TO REINTEGRATE THEMSELVES INTO SOCIETY.
10:43:03 THESE TWO WOMEN I'M SPEAKING OF ON BEHALF OF ORGANIZE
10:43:03 FLORIDA COMMITTED CRIMES TEN YEARS AGO.
10:43:04 THEY SHOULDN'T STILL BE DEALING WITH THIS TYPE OF
10:43:06 SITUATION.
10:43:06 I WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
10:43:08 YOU GUYS ARE CITY COUNCIL.
10:43:09 I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO TRY TO PUT SOME PROGRAMS
10:43:12 INTO PLACE THAT CAN ASSIST PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
10:43:14 THANK YOU.
10:43:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:43:18 SIR, IF YOU WANT, I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH
10:43:23 WITH MY AIDE OR SOMEBODY'S AIDE AND WE CAN TRY TO SEE IF
10:43:27 THESE TWO WOMEN, WE CAN HELP THEM FIND SOME HOUSING.
10:43:31 BRANDON, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS, GET IN TOUCH WITH
10:43:35 ELTON, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
10:43:37 SHE'LL COME TO YOU.
10:43:38 THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.
10:43:39 MA'AM, BEFORE YOU GO, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WHO IS
10:43:44 HERE FOR SPEAKING?
10:43:45 GO AHEAD.
10:43:47 >> MY NAME IS ALLISON DATE.
10:43:50 I'VE ONLY BEEN IN TAMPA A SHORT TIME AND TRAVELING A LOT.
10:43:55 BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED -- I'M VERY AMAZED AT HOW MUCH OF
10:44:00 A RENAISSANCE THERE IS HAPPENING.
10:44:02 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT THERE WAS NO
10:44:06 DISCUSSION OF THAT, AND THAT TAMPA RIGHT NOW STILL HAS A
10:44:10 LOT OF GREENSPACES, BUT THEY ARE DISAPPEARING.
10:44:13 I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE AN IMPORTANT POINT MENTIONED
10:44:17 WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO PRESERVE THIS AREA AND
10:44:21 WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT IT.
10:44:23 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:44:24 THANK YOU.
10:44:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:44:26 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:44:27 NEXT WE MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:44:32 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:34 ITEMS 5 AND 6.
10:44:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:44:37 MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE ITEMS 5 AND 6, TWO APPOINTMENTS FROM
10:44:40 THE MAYOR TO THE SPORTS AUTHORITY BOARD.
10:44:43 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:45 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:44:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:47 ANY OPPOSED?
10:44:48 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:44:50 MEMBERS WE MOVE TO STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
10:44:53 7.
10:45:00 LET'S TAKE 7 AND 10.
10:45:02 GO AHEAD, NUMBER 7.
10:45:05 >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:45:07 I AM HERE ON ITEM 7.
10:45:09 ITEM 7 WAS A REQUEST TO APPEAR AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL CODE
10:45:20 CHANGES TO TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 15, RELATED TO NON-MOTIVE
10:45:26 VEHICLES AND ENFORCEMENT ASPECTS RELATED TO CODE CHANGES.
10:45:31 NON-MOTIVE VEHICLES, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IN PARTICULAR
10:45:35 THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERN ABOUT BOAT TRAILER AND OTHER
10:45:37 PLEASURE CRAFT VEHICLES PARKED ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
10:45:40 I WANT TO TALK TO YOU FIRST ABOUT WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE
10:45:43 IN PLACE.
10:45:44 YOU HAVE A DEFINITION --
10:45:50 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE YOU'VE HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS,
10:45:52 BUT I'VE HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT BOATS AND RVs PARKED IN
10:45:55 THE STREETS BLOCKING THINGS.
10:45:56 >>REBECCA KERT: I WANT TO START WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE
10:45:59 BOOKS.
10:45:59 YOU HAVE A DEFINITION OF NON-MOTOR VEHICLES, BASICALLY
10:46:02 ANY VEHICLE THAT'S NOT MOTORIZED.
10:46:04 ANY VEHICLE, BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT'S TRANSPORTING A
10:46:07 PERSON OR PROPERTY UPON PUBLIC STREETS.
10:46:10 YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A REGULATION THAT NON-MOTIVE VEHICLES
10:46:14 ARE PROHIBITED FROM PARKING IN PARKING METER ZONES.
10:46:17 LET ME START WITH SAYING WE DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE
10:46:19 PREEMPTED FROM REGULATING IN THIS AREA.
10:46:23 ANY REGULATIONS YOU HAVE OR WANT TO AMEND WOULD BE UNDER
10:46:27 YOUR HOME RULE AUTHORITY.
10:46:28 AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A RATIONAL BASIS TO DO IT AND
10:46:32 SUPPORTS THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, YOU CAN
10:46:36 REGULATE IN THIS AREA.
10:46:37 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS IN LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER
10:46:39 JURISDICTIONS DO IN REGARDING THIS AREA, SOME PROHIBIT
10:46:44 BOAT TRAILER OR PLEASURE CRAFT TRAILER COMPLETELY ON
10:46:48 RESIDENTIAL STREETS OR IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY FROM
10:46:50 PARKING ON THE STREETS.
10:46:51 BUT WHAT YOU SEE MORE COMMONLY, THERE IS A PROHIBITION
10:46:55 FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING.
10:46:56 THAT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR BOATS TO THE
10:47:00 RESIDENCES, LOAD AND UNLOAD DURING THE DAY, PROHIBITS
10:47:03 THEM FROM BEING THERE OVERNIGHT.
10:47:05 BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY OF
10:47:08 WHAT YOU COULD LOOK AT DOING.
10:47:10 YOU ASKED US ALSO TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT.
10:47:16 CURRENTLY, TPD ENFORCES IN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT AREN'T
10:47:20 RELATED TO THE PARKING GARAGES AND METERED SPACES.
10:47:25 THAT'S HOW THIS PARTICULAR REGULATION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO
10:47:28 GO FORWARD WOULD BE ENFORCED.
10:47:30 SOMETHING TO LOOK AT FURTHER.
10:47:31 CURRENTLY, UNDER YOUR CODE THIS TYPE OF REGULATION WOULD
10:47:33 BE SUBJECT TO A PARKING CITATION, WAYS $29 CITATION.
10:47:37 IF YOU DON'T PAY IT, THERE IS A PROCESS TO CHALLENGE IT.
10:47:41 WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THAT IF YOU'RE
10:47:43 INTERESTED.
10:47:43 IT ALSO DOES UNDER YOUR CODE CURRENTLY ALLOW FOR
10:47:46 IMPOUNDMENT OF THESE VEHICLES OR IMMOBILIZATION.
10:47:50 I DO WANT TO PUT FORWARD THAT THAT IS NOT AN EASY
10:47:54 PROCESS.
10:47:54 IF YOU ARE TRYING TO TOW A BOAT, IT WOULD NOT BE, MOST
10:47:58 LIKELY FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, THE FIRST LINE OF
10:48:00 ATTACK FOR ANY VIOLATION.
10:48:01 IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A LAST RESORT
10:48:03 BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT AND COSTLY, AS I HAVE BEEN TOLD,
10:48:10 BUT NOT AN EXPERT ON TOWING BOATS, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE
10:48:13 CAN BE PROBLEMS WITH THE BOATS.
10:48:15 FALL OVER, POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE LIABILITY.
10:48:17 I WOULDN'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK IF YOU DID PASS A
10:48:20 REGULATION ALL THE BOATS WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY IMPOUNDED.
10:48:22 THAT IS MORE A PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION BUT AN OPTION ON
10:48:25 THE TABLE AND I RECOMMEND YOU KEEP IT AS SUCH AN OPTION.
10:48:28 THE PARKING DEPARTMENT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE FURTHER
10:48:33 QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
10:48:34 THIS IS MOSTLY A POLICY DETERMINATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
10:48:36 MAKE, BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
10:48:39 IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO GO FORTH AND DRAFT SOMETHING, YOU
10:48:43 CAN BRING IT BACK AND HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:48:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUICK QUESTION.
10:48:48 GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
10:48:49 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
10:48:50 WOULD A BOOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE AS OPPOSED TO TOWING?
10:48:53 >>REBECCA KERT: IT IS AN OPTION UNDER YOUR CODE
10:48:56 CURRENTLY.
10:48:56 THE IMMOBILIZATION IS TYPICALLY SOME SORT OF BOOT.
10:49:00 WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S GOING TO WORK BETTER ON A BOAT, IT
10:49:03 CERTAINLY IS MOST LIKELY EASIER BECAUSE YOU CAN GET TO
10:49:06 THE WHEELS.
10:49:06 IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION THAT
10:49:09 WE LOOK MORE INTO AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT WHEN
10:49:12 WE COME BACK.
10:49:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:49:14 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A POINT OF CLARITY, SOMETIME BACK IN
10:49:19 HISTORY BOATS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PARKED ON YOUR
10:49:23 PROPERTY AND THEN WE CHANGED THE LAW, THE ASPECT OF IT,
10:49:28 THAT YOU COULD PARK IT AS LONG AS IT WAS BEHIND YOUR
10:49:30 HOUSE, NOT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WHERE IT WASN'T VISIBLE
10:49:35 DIRECTLY FROM THE EYE.
10:49:36 YOU HAD TO LOOK FOR IT BECAUSE IT WAS PARALLEL TO THE
10:49:39 SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE.
10:49:40 NOW -- AND IT'S NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:49:43 IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS SO MANY THINGS TO DO, WHICH ONE
10:49:48 OF THEM IS BOATS.
10:49:49 I REMEMBER ACROSS FROM THE FIRE STATION, THAT WAS A PAIN
10:49:55 FOR EVERYONE.
10:49:59 BUT NOT ONLY THAT ONE, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF BOATS NOW
10:50:02 THAT ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
10:50:05 IS THAT LEGAL OR NOT?
10:50:07 >>REBECCA KERT: MR. MIRANDA --
10:50:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT CLARITY.
10:50:11 I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER ME NOW.
10:50:13 I'M BRINGING IT UP IN A CONVERSATION.
10:50:15 >>REBECCA KERT: I CAN ANSWER GENERALLY NOW.
10:50:16 THAT IS A DIFFERENT SET OF REGULATIONS.
10:50:19 IN GENERAL YOU'RE PROHIBITED FROM PARKING IN FRONT OF
10:50:21 YOUR HOUSE.
10:50:22 THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS IF THERE'S NO OTHER
10:50:25 AVAILABILITY FOR PARKING, BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, YOU'RE
10:50:28 NOT ALLOWED TO PARK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
10:50:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:50:32 HOWEVER, MOST BOATS PARKED AREN'T MOVED FOR SIX MONTHS
10:50:37 BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
10:50:38 YOU BUY A BOAT.
10:50:39 YOU LOVE IT WHEN YOU BUY.
10:50:41 AND YOU LOVE IT MORE WHEN YOU SELL IT.
10:50:43 THAT'S WHAT I HEAR ON THE STREET.
10:50:45 I OWNED A BOAT ONCE AND NEVER GOT IN IT.
10:50:48 IT WAS STOLEN.
10:50:49 IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:50:50 AND THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT -- I
10:50:53 LOOK AT CODE ENFORCEMENT -- I LOOK AT SOMETHING WITH A
10:50:57 WIDER SPECTRUM, WIDER LENSES.
10:50:59 WHEN WE GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE LAST 30 YEARS, IT WAS
10:51:04 TO HELP AND DO A GOOD JOB, AND THEY TRY.
10:51:08 TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY CERTAINLY DONE
10:51:10 THAT.
10:51:11 IT WAS PEER TO PEER, THEY CERTAINLY DONE THAT.
10:51:13 IT WAS DAILY REPORTS, THEY CERTAINLY DONE THAT.
10:51:16 IT WAS FOLLOW-UPS, THEY CERTAINLY DONE THAT.
10:51:18 BUT THE PROBLEM KEEPS MULTIPLYING.
10:51:21 THE REASON IT MULTIPLIES IS ECONOMIC SITUATION IN ONLY
10:51:26 CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.
10:51:27 THE.
10:51:28 RANCE OF THINGS HAPPEN IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS NOT
10:51:31 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
10:51:34 I LOOK AT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE WAY IT WAS, THEN SOME
10:51:39 MAYORS IN THE PAST, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHO, SAID I WANT
10:51:41 EVERYBODY TO BE THE EYES.
10:51:43 I WANT EVERYBODY WHO DRIVES A VEHICLE TO REPORT SOMETHING
10:51:45 THAT THEY SEE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:51:47 YOU WOULDN'T HAVE 24 OFFICERS, YOU'D HAVE 500 OFFICERS
10:51:52 THAT ARE NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DOING THE
10:51:54 SITE-SEEING AND WRITING CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:52:00 I REALLY BELIEVE THAT EVERY POLICE OFFICER BEFORE THEY
10:52:03 ARE SWORN IN HAS GOT TO SPEND ONE MONTH WITH A CODE
10:52:07 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER RIDING AROUND SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT
10:52:11 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE TO DO.
10:52:14 IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB.
10:52:15 I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME.
10:52:17 THERE IS A YOUNG LADY I SAW THE OTHER DAY DRIVING ON
10:52:20 TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD.
10:52:22 PROGRESS PARK WITH THE LIGHTS ON FLASHING LIKE THEY
10:52:25 SHOULD BE.
10:52:26 IN MY REARVIEW MIRROR I SAW HER ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY
10:52:34 WALKING TO THE CAR.
10:52:34 AND THE REASON SHE PARKED THERE BECAUSE THAT WHOLE BLOCK
10:52:36 JUST ABOUT -- AND I SAY JUST ABOUT -- HAD CARS PARKED ON
10:52:39 THE SIDEWALK.
10:52:39 IT HAD GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE YOU HAVE MORE CARS THAN
10:52:45 PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THEY ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES.
10:52:47 WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
10:52:49 IT ONLY HAPPENS IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:52:51 SOME OTHERS, VERY MINUTE, SO YOU DON'T SEE THEM AS
10:52:56 READILY.
10:52:57 WHEN YOU SEE THAT, THEY ARE NOT PAYING AD VALOREM TAXES
10:52:59 LIKE THEY SHOULD.
10:53:01 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT COLLECTING TAXES ON INCOME
10:53:05 BECAUSE THEY DON'T REPORT IT.
10:53:07 IT'S A SHAME THAT FOR YEARS WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
10:53:10 BUT ON THE OTHER FLIPSIDE OF THE COIN, I SEE THE OTHER
10:53:14 SIDE.
10:53:15 LET'S SAY WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE
10:53:18 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE HOUSES? WHERE DO THEY LIVE AT?
10:53:20 WE'RE CAUGHT IN A VICE.
10:53:25 TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE HAVE BETTER HOUSING YET WE HAVE
10:53:28 THIS SITUATION.
10:53:29 WE TAKE THEM OUT, WHERE DO THEY LIVE?
10:53:31 WHERE DO THEY GO?
10:53:32 IT'S NOT AN EASY FIX.
10:53:35 IT'S GOING TO TAKE A CONVENTION OF PEOPLE, NOT FOUR OR
10:53:38 FIVE, TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
10:53:40 IT WON'T BE SOLVED FOR YEARS TO COME.
10:53:42 WAY PAST MY TERM.
10:53:44 THANK YOU.
10:53:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:53:47 ANYONE ELSE.
10:53:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO GET A RECOMMENDATION ON
10:53:55 SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE OVERNIGHT.
10:53:57 THE OVERNIGHT PARKING SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE SOLUTION.
10:54:01 CAN WE TAKE MOTIONS AT WORKSHOPS?
10:54:07 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO IT AT THE END.
10:54:08 I GOT A MESSAGE BEFORE WE MOVE ON THAT TONY MULKEY IS
10:54:13 HERE FOR A WALK-ON FOR RESCHEDULING THE BREAST CANCER
10:54:19 WALK.
10:54:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, IN
10:54:23 REGARD TO THE BOAT ISSUE AND MR. CARLSON, I WANTED TO SAY
10:54:34 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT FIXING THINGS THAT AIN'T BROKE.
10:54:41 CHARLIE, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND THE LONGEST OF ANYBODY, BUT I
10:54:45 HAVEN'T RECEIVED --
10:54:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEEN AROUND WHEN ALL THE BOATS WERE
10:54:50 WOOD.
10:54:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS
10:54:54 ABOUT PARKING THE BOATS IN THE STREET AND THAT SORT OF
10:54:59 THING OR RVs IN THE STREETS, WHATEVER.
10:55:02 MAYBE IT COULD BE A TIME LIMIT OR SOMETHING, LIKE NO MORE
10:55:07 THAN A WEEK SO PEOPLE DON'T USE IT AS PERMANENT STORAGE.
10:55:12 MR. CARLSON, I WAS JUST SAYING I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED
10:55:14 ABOUT FIXING SOMETHING THAT AIN'T BROKE, SO THEY SAY.
10:55:17 BECAUSE WE COULD BE KICKING UP A REAL BIG HORNET'S NEST.
10:55:24 MAYBE THERE'S A DEPARTMENT OUT THERE THAT COULD GIVE US A
10:55:29 LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
10:55:30 I WAS THINKING CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS A LOT OF EYES.
10:55:35 TPD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST EYES AND
10:55:38 EARS ON THE STREETS.
10:55:39 MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THEM
10:55:43 IN TERMS OF HOW BIG A PROBLEM, AN ISSUE THIS IS.
10:55:46 I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOU RECEIVED SOME COMPLAINTS.
10:55:50 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO QUANTIFY THAT.
10:55:52 ANYWAY, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
10:55:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, BUT I HAVE
10:55:59 HAD A BUNCH OF CALLS ABOUT IT.
10:56:00 THE RUMORS THAT THIS DISTRICT GETS MORE CALLS ON THINGS
10:56:05 THAN ANYBODY.
10:56:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO RUMOR AT ALL.
10:56:09 DEFINITELY TRUE.
10:56:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I RECEIVED ONE COMPLAINT IN A COFFEE
10:56:17 SHOP ABOUT A BOAT IN HYDE PARK.
10:56:19 DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE A WEEK LATER THE GUY
10:56:22 MOVED THE BOAT.
10:56:23 AND THE BOAT HAS BEEN GONE SINCE.
10:56:31 >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT GEOGRAPHIC
10:56:33 CONDITIONS?
10:56:34 IF ONLY SOUTH TAMPA CARES ABOUT IT OR DAVIS ISLANDS?
10:56:37 >>REBECCA KERT: THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS NO BECAUSE
10:56:40 YOU DON'T REGULATE JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY CARES ABOUT IT.
10:56:43 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY OR PUBLIC WELFARE ISSUE
10:56:46 RELATED TO IT.
10:56:47 IF THERE WAS SOMETHING UNIQUE TO HYDE PARK AND SAY THE
10:56:51 STREETS WERE MORE NARROW, YOU COULD SAY IT YOU CAN'T DO
10:56:53 IT ON STREETS OF A CERTAIN WIDTH BUT YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT
10:56:56 BY GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
10:56:57 IT HAS TO HAVE A BASIS THAT WOULD APPLY LOGICALLY TO
10:57:01 WHEREVER THE CRITERIA WOULD BE MET.
10:57:03 >>BILL CARLSON: LATER ON I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND THEN WE
10:57:06 CAN DEBATE IT AND IF WE DECIDE TO COME BACK WITH A
10:57:09 PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN DEBATE AND HEAR FROM THE
10:57:13 PUBLIC.
10:57:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST VERY QUICKLY, MY YEARS AS MAGISTRATE
10:57:17 ON CODE ENFORCEMENT, THERE WAS A CERTAIN TERM.
10:57:21 "BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE."
10:57:23 AND ONCE THESE BOATS THAT ARE KNOWN AS A PROBLEM, THEY
10:57:28 MOVE THEM, GO OUT FISHING.
10:57:31 CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER COMES OUT, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN
10:57:33 BROUGHT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
10:57:35 WELL, THEN THAT BOAT GOES AND PARKS AGAIN AT THE END OF
10:57:38 THE DAY.
10:57:39 IN MY OPINION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA
10:57:42 WITH LOOKING INTO OVERNIGHT REGULATION PARKING THERE.
10:57:44 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:57:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:57:46 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:57:53 TONY MULKEY, SPECIAL EVENTS SUPERINTENDENT.
10:57:56 WALKING ON AN ITEM TODAY THAT IS A RESCHEDULED EVENT FOR
10:58:00 A SPECIAL EVENT STREET CLOSURE.
10:58:02 IT IS FOR THE MAKING STRIDES BREAST CANCER WALK THAT WAS
10:58:05 SCHEDULED FOR LAST SATURDAY, BUT HAS BEEN DELAYED TILL
10:58:08 NOVEMBER 3rd DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER THIS PAST
10:58:12 WEEKEND.
10:58:13 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:58:15 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:18 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:58:19 ANY OPPOSED?
10:58:20 THANK YOU.
10:58:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHAIRMAN, MAY I SPEAK.
10:58:22 I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
10:58:24 I KNOW THIS IS ONLY FOR HALF A DAY AND FOR A WELL CAUSE.
10:58:28 WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR COMPUTER ON CLOSURES OF STREETS,
10:58:31 YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OVER 4,000 STREETS ARE CLOSED IN THE
10:58:34 CITY OF TAMPA ON ANY GIVEN YEAR, FOR REASONS, WATER
10:58:37 BREAKS, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE AND WELL-BEING OF THE
10:58:40 CITIZENS.
10:58:40 HOWEVER, WE MUST LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
10:58:42 THERE'S ONE STREET IN WEST TAMPA THAT'S GOING TO BE
10:58:45 CLOSED FOR NINE MONTHS.
10:58:47 I AIN'T GOING TO SAY WHERE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY
10:58:50 THAT I'M AFTER SOMEBODY, BECAUSE I'M NOT, BUT MY WHOLE
10:58:53 NEIGHBORHOOD USED TO WALK AROUND THAT BLOCK.
10:58:56 NOW THEY CAN'T DO IT.
10:58:57 IT WAS NEVER APPROVED BY ANY OFFICIAL OF THE CITY OF
10:59:00 TAMPA OTHER THAN SOME DEPARTMENT.
10:59:03 HIGHER OFFICES AND BIGGER DEPARTMENTS THAN WE ARE, HAVE
10:59:07 KNOWN ABOUT IT NOW.
10:59:08 WHAT I'M SAYING, IF THIS DOESN'T CHANGE, WE HAVE TO WRITE
10:59:12 AN ORDINANCE THAT IF YOU CLOSE A STREET FOR ANYTHING
10:59:14 OTHER THAN CITY PURPOSES, FOR MORE THAN A WEEK, IT MUST
10:59:18 BE APPROVED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT, FROM THE MAYOR'S
10:59:20 OFFICE TO THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO STAND
10:59:22 STILL AND SEE A CITY BLOCK CLOSED FOR NINE MONTHS OR SO
10:59:25 WHEN THEY HAD THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND THEY COULD BUILD
10:59:27 WHATEVER IN THE WORLD THEY ARE BUILDING AT THEIR PROPERTY
10:59:29 WHICH IS JUST BEHIND THEIR REAL PROPERTY TODAY.
10:59:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:59:34 APPRECIATE IT.
10:59:35 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS YOUR NUMBER 9 HERE YET?
10:59:40 OKAY.
10:59:40 WE'LL TAKE THEM WHENEVER THEY COME.
10:59:42 NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER 10.
10:59:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS ONE AGAIN, A LOT OF COMPLAINT
10:59:53 ISSUES.
10:59:53 CAN I WEIGH IN AFTER MS. KERT.
10:59:56 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.
10:59:57 REBECCA KERT.
10:59:58 I'M HERE ON ITEM 10.
11:00:03 ITEM 10 WAS A REQUEST TO APPEAR AND TALK ABOUT SOME
11:00:07 POTENTIAL CODE CHANGES REGARDING THE USES OF GAS LEAF
11:00:11 BLOWERS, THE DUMPING OF LAWN DEBRIS IN STORMWATER DRAINS
11:00:14 AND CULVERTS AND THE CONSEQUENCES THAT RESULT FROM THE
11:00:17 DUMPING OF DEBRIS.
11:00:18 IN SPEAKING WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, COUNCILMAN
11:00:21 CARLSON'S OFFICE, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE
11:00:24 A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THE LEAF BLOWERS.
11:00:26 ONE IS THE NOISE.
11:00:27 ONE IS THE DEBRIS GETTING BLOWN INTO THE STORMWATER AND
11:00:29 THE OTHER IS GAS EMISSION.
11:00:31 I KIND OF WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THEM SEPARATELY BECAUSE
11:00:34 THEY GO UNDER SEPARATE REGULATIONS.
11:00:35 THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE NOISE.
11:00:40 FULL DISCLOSURE, THIS WAS TAKEN FROM A PowerPoint THAT
11:00:44 WAS CREATED BY THE CITY OF NAPLES ABOUT A YEAR AGO, BUT I
11:00:48 THOUGHT IT HAD SOME PRETTY INTERESTING INFORMATION IN IT.
11:00:51 JUST FOR PRELIMINARY POINTS OF DISCUSSION, WHERE IT TALKS
11:00:55 ABOUT NOISE REGULATIONS.
11:00:57 AT THE TOP, YOU HAVE A JET FLYING OVER A THOUSAND FEET
11:01:00 AND A ROCK BAND.
11:01:02 A GAS LAWN MOWER AT THREE FEET IS HUNDRED.
11:01:05 LAWN LEAF BLOWERS, BOTH ELECTRIC AND GAS, ARE SOMEWHERE
11:01:08 BETWEEN THE 65 AND 85.
11:01:11 HEAVY TRAFFIC IS ABOUT 60 SOMETHING, JUST BY WAY OF
11:01:16 COMPARISON.
11:01:16 I THINK FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN
11:01:20 NEAR A LEAF BLOWER, THEY ARE VERY LOUD.
11:01:22 THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING.
11:01:25 THE VARIOUS LEAF BLOWERS HAVE DIFFERENT DECIBEL LEVELS.
11:01:29 THERE ARE SOME ON THE MARKET NOW THAT HAVE SILENCERS.
11:01:32 THEY ARE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS
11:01:36 OUT THERE.
11:01:37 AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ITS
11:01:42 OWN NOISE REGULATIONS.
11:01:44 WE EXPRESSLY EXEMPT OUT SOUND WHICH RESULTS FROM THE
11:01:48 REASONABLE MAINTENANCE OF PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE CITY OF
11:01:50 TAMPA, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, LAWN MOWERS,
11:01:53 CHIPPER, CLIPPERS, TOOLS, POWER TOOLS AND TRACTORS.
11:01:57 YOU HAVE NO NOISE REGULATIONS ON ANY OF THESE THINGS
11:02:00 UNDER YOUR CURRENT CITY CODE.
11:02:04 ANYTIME YOU CHANGE YOUR NOISE REGULATIONS YOU'RE
11:02:06 TYPICALLY GOING TO HAVE ME EXPLAIN THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE
11:02:09 A PREDICATE EVEN IF THE NOISE ITSELF SUCH AS A LAWN
11:02:12 CHIPPER DOESN'T IMPLICATE FREE SPEECH.
11:02:14 NOISE REGULATIONS AS A WHOLE DO AND THEY COULD HAVE AN
11:02:16 IMPLICATION ON THAT.
11:02:17 HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT YOU COULD
11:02:20 ESTABLISH A PREDICATE THAT THESE ARE ALL VERY LOUD AND
11:02:22 YOU COULD LOOK AT SOME POTENTIAL REGULATIONS.
11:02:24 ONE OF THEM WOULD BE TO BAN THEM.
11:02:26 ANOTHER ONE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE MORE COMMONLY, OPPOSED
11:02:29 TO EXEMPTING THEM OUT IS LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
11:02:32 YOU CURRENTLY HAVE HOURS -- NOT HOURS OF OPERATION, BUT
11:02:35 YOU
11:02:36 CERTAINLY HAVE HOUR LIMITATIONS ON CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND
11:02:39 YOU COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR AND YOU'VE ALREADY
11:02:41 ESTABLISHED THAT THOSE ARE REASONABLE SORTS OF
11:02:43 REGULATIONS.
11:02:44 THAT'S ONE THING THAT CITY COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER IS SOME
11:02:48 LIMITATION ON THE HOURS.
11:02:49 THE OTHER QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE BLOWING OF
11:02:55 THE LEAFS INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND THE PROBLEM.
11:02:58 CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THAT IS A
11:03:00 PROBLEM AND THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS ESTABLISHED WHAT A
11:03:03 GREAT PROBLEM IT WAS AND YOU HAVE A REGULATION ON IT.
11:03:06 IT IS ALREADY UNLAWFUL FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL
11:03:09 TO INTRODUCE ANY FOREIGN MATTER, INCLUDING THE LEAFS AND
11:03:11 THE GRASS CLIPPINGS INTO THE PUBLIC DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
11:03:16 YOU ALSO HAVE IT SO THAT ANY BUSINESS IS ALSO HELD LIABLE
11:03:19 ON THAT.
11:03:20 SO WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
11:03:23 ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT GOING UP TO INDIVIDUALS.
11:03:26 TYPICALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES UP TO HOMES AND YOU CITE
11:03:29 THE PROPERTY OWNER.
11:03:30 THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SORT OF SITUATION IS.
11:03:32 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CITE THE
11:03:34 HOMEOWNER.
11:03:35 YOU'RE GOING TO CITE THE INDIVIDUAL DOING THAT.
11:03:37 BECAUSE OF THAT THIS WAS EXPRESSLY WRITTEN SO THAT THE
11:03:40 INDIVIDUAL CAN BE CITED AND HAVE A $75, I BELIEVE IT IS,
11:03:44 FINE.
11:03:45 AND A BUSINESS CITED IS $450 FINE.
11:03:48 IF THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS WORKING FOR A BUSINESS,
11:03:51 UNDER THIS CODE, A WRITTEN NOTICE IF YOU FIND THAT THE
11:03:53 INDIVIDUAL IS VIOLATING IT, A WRITTEN NOTICE IS SENT TO
11:03:56 THE BUSINESS, THE LAWN COMPANY, AND AFTER THAT IF YOU SEE
11:04:00 THAT INDIVIDUAL DOING IT AGAIN, THE BUSINESS CAN BE HELD
11:04:02 JOINT AND SEVERALLY LIABLE.
11:04:05 SO THEN YOU CAN CITE THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY NOW KNOW
11:04:08 THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM AND SOMEBODY IN THEIR -- THEIR
11:04:12 EMPLOYEE WAS VIOLATING IT.
11:04:13 WE FEEL THAT WE CAN HOLD THEM LIABLE FOR NOT ENFORCING
11:04:17 THAT.
11:04:18 THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR BOOKS.
11:04:22 IT WAS ADDRESSED BY A CODE A FEW YEARS AGO.
11:04:25 IT WAS UPDATED MOST RECENTLY IN 2017.
11:04:27 2015, I APOLOGIZE.
11:04:30 THAT'S THE ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS DONE ON IT.
11:04:34 I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE DID LOOK AND WE ALSO BELIEVE
11:04:36 THIS IS NOT AN AREA THAT YOU ARE PREEMPTED.
11:04:39 YOU CAN REGULATE THIS UNDER YOUR HOME RULE AUTHORITY.
11:04:42 IN LOOKING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS
11:04:45 THAT PEOPLE HAVE REGULATED THESE.
11:04:47 WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A TIME LIMITATION.
11:04:51 THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE BANNED THE GAS BLOWERS,
11:04:54 BOTH FOR THE NOISE AND FOR THE EMISSIONS.
11:04:57 THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CAUSE EMISSIONS, AS YOU ALL
11:05:00 KNOW, GAS LAWN MOWERS AS WELL AS OTHER LAWN EQUIPMENT
11:05:04 ALSO CAUSE EMISSIONS.
11:05:06 THE ONLY CITY IN THE CITY OF FLORIDA THAT HAS HAD A
11:05:09 COMPLETE BAN ON GAS BLOWERS IS THE CITY OF PALM BEACH,
11:05:12 WHICH IS NOT VERY COMPARABLE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE
11:05:16 LAST CENSUS, IT HAS A POPULATION UNDER 10,000.
11:05:19 I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE TOP 30 WEALTHIEST COUNTRIES -- I
11:05:24 MEAN CITIES IN AMERICA.
11:05:25 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A COMPARABLE REGULATION.
11:05:27 I SAY THAT BECAUSE IN MY EXAMINATION, I JUST WANT TO LET
11:05:33 YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH LEGALLY I THINK YOU CAN REGULATE IN
11:05:35 THIS AREA, YOU PROBABLY ARE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE SOME
11:05:38 TIME TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD
11:05:41 WITH SOME SORT OF BAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN VERY
11:05:44 CONTROVERSIAL.
11:05:44 THERE IS AN EXPENSE ADDED TO PEOPLE, AND IT OBVIOUSLY
11:05:49 REPLACING THIS SORT OF EQUIPMENT IS MORE EXPENSIVE OR
11:05:52 MORE PROPORTIONALLY EXPENSIVE FOR PEOPLE OF LOWER
11:05:56 INCOMES.
11:05:56 THESE HAVE BEEN CONTROVERSIAL.
11:05:58 I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AS YOU'RE GOING FORWARD
11:06:01 THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE TIME TO GET PUBLIC
11:06:04 COMMENT ON THIS ONE.
11:06:05 WE DO HAVE MR. RUGGIERO HERE TO TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF
11:06:11 THE CURRENT REGULATION AS IT HAS EXISTED AND PROVIDE YOU
11:06:13 SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT.
11:06:14 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, SAL RUGGIERO.
11:06:24 I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT BECAUSE WE DON'T GET MANY
11:06:27 CALLS ON THIS TYPE OF VIOLATION.
11:06:30 OVER THE LAST YEAR, YEAR, WE PROBABLY HAD FOUR INCIDENTS
11:06:36 WHERE WE EITHER OBSERVED SOMEBODY AND WE HAVE TO OBSERVE
11:06:39 TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE CASE, WHERE WE OBSERVED A VIOLATION
11:06:45 OCCURRING.
11:06:45 THREE WERE GRASS BEING BLOWN INTO THE DRAIN AND CITATION
11:06:51 ISSUED FOR THAT.
11:06:52 THE FOURTH ONE WAS A CODE OFFICER WAS CHECKING OUT A
11:06:58 PLAZA AND OBSERVED A RESTAURANT EMPLOYEE POURING OIL INTO
11:07:03 THE DRAIN, AND HE CITED HIM FOR THAT.
11:07:08 WE'RE LIMITED ON THE STATS WE HAVE ON THIS AND WE DON'T
11:07:14 GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM THE PUBLIC.
11:07:15 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THEM.
11:07:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:07:18 COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:07:20 THEN I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN
11:07:22 MANISCALCO, THEN COUNCILMAN -- GO AHEAD.
11:07:26 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO START, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT
11:07:28 WASN'T BROUGHT UP IS THE POLLUTION ISSUE.
11:07:32 GAS BLOWERS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF EVIDENCE ON HOW MUCH THEY
11:07:35 POLLUTE THE AIR BESIDES THE NOISE PART OF IT.
11:07:39 I WOULD BE OPEN TO SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE TIMES YOU CAN
11:07:44 USE THEM.
11:07:45 IDEALLY, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD
11:07:48 SWITCH TO MAYBE OVER A YEAR OR TWO, ASK PEOPLE TO PHASE
11:07:50 OUT TO ELECTRIC BLOWERS.
11:07:53 I HAVE SOME PEOPLE I KNOW WHO ARE IN THE LAWN MAINTENANCE
11:07:55 BUSINESS, AND THEY SAID IT'S NOT THE COST OF THE BLOWERS.
11:08:01 IT'S THE RECHARGING THEM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE
11:08:04 OUT BECAUSE THE GAS ONES ARE JUST EASIER TO PUT GAS IN
11:08:07 AND KEEP THEM GOING THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
11:08:09 BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THAT YOU ALL REMEMBER -- I WASN'T
11:08:15 HERE YET, BUT WHEN THE STORMWATER TAX WAS APPROVED, THEY
11:08:18 SPENT A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME GOING THROUGH DIGGING THE
11:08:21 STUFF OUT OF THE GUTTERS.
11:08:22 I THINK WE NEED -- AT THE VERY LEAST, WE NEED TO UPDATE
11:08:26 THIS RULE ABOUT DUMPING INTO THE STORMWATER GUTTERS
11:08:29 BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT I DON'T SEE PEOPLE
11:08:32 TAKING A BAG OF LEAFS AND DUMPING INTO THE GUTTER WHICH
11:08:35 WOULD BE OBVIOUS.
11:08:36 WHAT THEY ARE DOING INSTEAD IS BLOWING EVERYTHING OUT ON
11:08:39 THE STREET.
11:08:39 IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNERS.
11:08:42 IT'S NOT FAIR TO PEOPLE -- I THINK IT'S A TRAFFIC HAZARD
11:08:46 BECAUSE YOU'RE DRIVING BY AND THEY ARE BLOWING ROCKS AND
11:08:49 LEAFS AND THINGS IN PEOPLE'S FACES AS THEY ARE DRIVING.
11:08:52 THE IDEA WOULD BE TO TELL PEOPLE, YOU CAN BLOW IT IF YOU
11:08:55 WANT, BUT KEEP IT ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY.
11:08:57 DON'T BLOW IT OFF IN THE STREET.
11:08:59 WHEN IT GETS INTO THE STREET, THEN IT'S GOING INTO THE
11:09:01 STORM DRAIN.
11:09:02 THAT'S WHEN IT'S CAUSING THE CITY FLOODING PROBLEMS.
11:09:04 THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I GET BESIDES MAYBE SCOOTERS IS
11:09:08 FLOODING.
11:09:08 THE LAST THING WE NEED IS MORE AND MORE OF THIS BEING
11:09:10 DUMPED INTO THE STREETS WHICH THEN GOES INTO THE GUTTER.
11:09:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. RUGGIERO.
11:09:18 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ANYONE GOT FINED.
11:09:21 I THINK A VIOLATION OF CHAPTER 27, IF I RECALL.
11:09:23 THAT'S WHAT MY AIDE TOLD ME SOME YEARS AGO OR SO.
11:09:27 THAT'S BEEN IN THE BOOKS, PUTTING THINGS INTO THE SEWER
11:09:32 FOR MANY YEARS.
11:09:36 HOWEVER, I COMPARE IT TO WHEN WE HAVE A WATER CRISIS.
11:09:39 WHAT THAT DEPARTMENT DID, THEY HAD A CONTRACT FOR WATER
11:09:45 POLICE.
11:09:46 WE HIRED PEOPLE TO DRIVE AROUND AND CATCH PEOPLE WHO HAD
11:09:48 THE SPRINKLERS ON, NOT THAT WE DID IT WITH INTENT.
11:09:52 WE DID IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WATER.
11:09:54 JUST LIKE THE CASE LIKE THERE WAS NO WATER, THIS IS A
11:09:56 CASE OF WE GOT TO CLEAN UP SOMEBODY'S MESS THAT WE'RE
11:10:00 PAYING FOR, NOT THEM.
11:10:01 THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.
11:10:02 AND IF ANYBODY GOES TO THE TERTIARY TREATMENT PLANT, YOU
11:10:08 WOULD BE SURPRISED WHAT THEY FIND IN THERE.
11:10:09 IT'S AMAZING.
11:10:10 WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IN ORDER TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS, YOU
11:10:14 JUST CAN'T GET ON A COMPLAINT BASIS.
11:10:17 YOU MUST HAVE FEET OR DRIVERS ON THE STREET LOOKING FOR
11:10:19 THEM.
11:10:20 I MYSELF CAN SHOW YOU FIVE EVERY DAY THAT'S HAPPENING.
11:10:23 BECAUSE THEY DO IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
11:10:25 ONE TIME I WAS DRIVING DOWN HENDERSON BOULEVARD AND SWANN
11:10:30 AND I SAW A TRUCK I DID NOT KNOW ATTACHED TO ONE OF OUR
11:10:36 PILES THAT WE HAVE THERE WHERE YOU OPEN UP THE VALVE FOR
11:10:38 FIRE AND ALL THAT, FIRE HYDRANT.
11:10:41 AND IT WAS ABOUT 7:30 IN THE MORNING.
11:10:43 I'M WATCHING THIS GUY TAKE WATER, FILLING UP HIS TANK.
11:10:47 I CALLED THE CHIEF THAT HANDLED THAT DEPARTMENT.
11:10:54 YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT BECAUSE SOME HAVE THAT RIGHT.
11:10:56 THERE ARE CONTRACTORS THAT WE'RE PAYING TO DO WATERING OF
11:10:59 THE PALMS AND TREES, WHATEVER THEY'VE GOT.
11:11:02 IN THIS CASE, IT WAS NOT.
11:11:03 JUST ABOUT A MONTH AGO, CORNER OF MY HOUSE, COMING OUT OF
11:11:07 MY HOUSE AND I SEE A TRUCK DUMPING SOMETHING INTO THE
11:11:11 SEWER LINE.
11:11:11 I TOOK PICTURES OF IT.
11:11:12 I GAVE IT TO THAT SAME DEPARTMENT HEAD.
11:11:15 THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF IMMEDIATELY.
11:11:20 YOU HAVE TO HAVE FEET ON THE GROUND.
11:11:22 COMPLAINTS ON THE PHONE ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE
11:11:25 PROBLEM.
11:11:26 IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU'LL HAVE SOMEBODY
11:11:30 CALL.
11:11:30 EITHER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN CALL.
11:11:33 SOMEBODY HAS TO CALL.
11:11:35 THIS IS A CRIME, TOO.
11:11:38 IT'S TAKING A PUBLIC NECESSITY OUT OF SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT
11:11:41 DUMPING, ENFORCING THE TERTIARY -- FORCING THE TERTIARY
11:11:45 TREATMENT PLANT TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT THEIRS.
11:11:48 IT'S CREATED BY WHOEVER THAT SUBCONTRACTOR OR CONTRACTOR
11:11:50 OR HOMEOWNER IS.
11:11:51 AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON ALL OVER THE CITY.
11:11:54 NOT IN WEST TAMPA, NOT IN EAST TAMPA, ALL OVER.
11:11:58 IN SOUTH TAMPA, EVERYWHERE, NEW TAMPA EVERYWHERE IT'S
11:12:01 GOING ON TODAY AS WE SPEAK.
11:12:04 THE PROBLEM WILL NOT BE SOLVED UNLESS YOU HAVE BOOTS ON
11:12:07 THE GROUND.
11:12:07 THANK YOU.
11:12:08 JUST LIKE YOU HAVE WATER METERS, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE WATER
11:12:10 METER READERS, NEVER GET A WATER BILL.
11:12:13 THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON.
11:12:14 WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT AND I'M WITH YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND
11:12:17 WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO
11:12:21 BUSINESS OR YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
11:12:23 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:12:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:12:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:12:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A LOT OF GOOD ISSUES THAT MS. KERT
11:12:30 BROUGHT UP AND, SAL, THANKS FOR YOUR REPORT.
11:12:34 MY FIRST QUESTION, WHICH YOU ALREADY ANSWERED, IS THERE
11:12:38 MUCH ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY GOING ON OR COMPLAINTS AND THAT
11:12:41 SORT OF THING.
11:12:42 SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS JUST A
11:12:45 HANDFUL.
11:12:45 I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN OUR OWN HOUSEHOLD, I WAS A
11:12:50 LITTLE SKEPTICAL, MY WIFE, I GUESS SHE BOUGHT A PRESENT
11:12:55 FOR ME, SOME LAWN EQUIPMENT.
11:12:56 I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS OUT AS A PRESENT, BUT ANYWAY,
11:13:02 BUT THE THREE PIECES WERE BATTERY OPERATED.
11:13:04 IT WAS A LAWN MOWER, EDGER, AND A BLOWER, AND THEY ALL
11:13:08 SHARED THE BATTERY.
11:13:09 I THOUGHT, WELL, KIND OF NEAT.
11:13:12 THAT WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.
11:13:15 IT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD.
11:13:16 I WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO GO OUT AND MOW THE YARD YESTERDAY
11:13:19 OR THE DAY BEFORE LIKE AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING, WHICH I
11:13:22 WOULD NEVER DO WITH A GAS MOTOR BECAUSE THEY ARE SO LOUD.
11:13:25 BUT WITH THE ELECTRIC MOWER IT WAS ACTUALLY SO QUIET, YOU
11:13:31 REALLY CAN'T HEAR IT.
11:13:33 THAT WAS NEAT.
11:13:34 I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
11:13:36 I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT US TAKING A BIG STEP
11:13:41 FORWARD IN MANDATING ELECTRIC EQUIPMENT IN TERMS OF THIS
11:13:51 SORT OF THING, JUST BECAUSE NOT ONLY FROM THE COMMERCIAL
11:13:53 SIDE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE -- MAYBE WE COULD CREATE
11:13:59 SOME SORT OF INCENTIVES OR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE TAME
11:14:05 THAN ACTUALLY MANDATING OR ELIMINATING GAS EQUIPMENT.
11:14:10 I DON'T KNOW.
11:14:11 IT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT FROM THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF
11:14:14 THINGS.
11:14:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:14:18 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:14:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN LOOKING AT THE EPA AND THE CLEAN
11:14:23 WATER ACT, I SAW THAT SOME STUDIES SUGGEST THAT 80% OF
11:14:28 TRASH THAT GOES INTO OUR SYSTEM AND WATERWAYS IS FROM
11:14:31 LAND.
11:14:32 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST LEAF BLOWERS OR PEOPLE
11:14:34 THROWING AN EMPTY BOTTLE OUT THE WINDOW AND IT ENDS UP IN
11:14:38 OUR SYSTEM, BUT I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAF BLOWERS.
11:14:41 I REMEMBER -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT,
11:14:44 WITH THE STORMWATER, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT THAT
11:14:47 WE DID IN 2016 AND THE MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT THAT CAME
11:14:52 ALONG WITH IT AND A NEWS STORY OR THE CITY SAID OF WHAT
11:14:56 THEY WERE FINDING IN THESE PIPES AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS
11:14:59 THAT HADN'T BEEN CLEANED SINCE THE '70s.
11:15:01 LICENSE PLATES.
11:15:02 COCA-COLA BOTTLES THAT WERE FROM THAT ERA.
11:15:05 ALL SORTS OF STUFF.
11:15:06 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN THAT MENTIONED
11:15:09 IT UP ON THE DAIS, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE METHODS -- LEAF
11:15:16 BLOWERS ARE BLOWING THINGS INTO OUR STORM DRAINS, FOR
11:15:18 EXAMPLE, AND PEOPLE ARE THROWING TRASH.
11:15:20 BUT DIFFERENT METHODS, LIKE JUST A GRILL, A MESH GRILL OR
11:15:25 SOMETHING THAT'S REMOVABLE AND PUT INTO THE DRAIN THAT
11:15:28 KEEPS A LOT OF THIS JUNK, ANYTHING FROM LEAFS TO TRASH IN
11:15:31 GENERAL, OUT OF OUR SYSTEM.
11:15:34 I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER CITIES DO IT.
11:15:36 I KNOW THROUGHOUT EUROPE, I'VE SEEN SOME, BUT HAS THE
11:15:42 CITY CONSIDERED LOOKING INTO PUTTING SOME KIND OF GRATE
11:15:46 OR MESH IN FRONT OF THE STORM DRAINS THAT WOULD PREVENT
11:15:50 SOME OF THE TRASH FROM GETTING IN THERE AND OTHER THINGS?
11:15:52 DO YOU KNOW?
11:15:53 >>SAL RUGGIERO: I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I DON'T
11:15:56 OVERSEE STORMWATER.
11:15:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BRAD WAS HERE A MINUTE AGO.
11:16:01 >>SAL RUGGIERO: I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER ON THAT
11:16:04 BECAUSE I DON'T OVERSEE THAT.
11:16:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE FIX BECAUSE OF
11:16:08 ALL THE JUNK THAT GOT INTO OUR SYSTEM OVER A DECADE AND
11:16:12 WE SAW WHEN WE DIDN'T CLEAN IT FOR DECADES UNTIL WE HAD
11:16:15 THAT ASSESSMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT THAT SHOULD BE
11:16:18 AN EASY ENOUGH WAY WHERE THE GRILL IS DETACHABLE. IF
11:16:21 THEY HAVE TO PULL OUT WEEDS AND OTHER THINGS THAT GROW
11:16:24 THROUGH THERE, THAT'S IT.
11:16:26 I THINK THAT WOULD -- WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE
11:16:28 OF THE LEAF BLOWER BUT AT LEAST WHAT IS BEING BLOWN INTO
11:16:32 AND KNOCKED INTO THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE A CHEAP ENOUGH -- I
11:16:38 WOULDN'T SAY GO TO HOME DEPOT AND BUY THE MESH AND PUT IT
11:16:42 THERE, BUT IT'S AS SIMPLE THAT IS.
11:16:44 I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT.
11:16:47 THE EPA WEBSITE OFFERS DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FROM NEW YORK
11:16:51 TO LOS ANGELES OF WHAT THEY DO.
11:16:54 THEY DON'T MANDATE ANYTHING.
11:16:56 IT SEEMS LIKE A COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO AT LEAST KEEP
11:16:58 THE DEBRIS OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
11:17:00 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE OF THE LEAF BLOWER.
11:17:02 IT'S EASIER ON THE MAINTENANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE.
11:17:05 THANKS.
11:17:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:07 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:17:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, IN A LOT OF AREAS, A LOT OF
11:17:13 COMMUNITIES, GAS IS A BIG THING.
11:17:15 WE TALK ABOUT JOBS.
11:17:20 IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TALKING ABOUT A MANDATE FOR
11:17:23 ELECTRIC BECAUSE WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE ELECTRIC
11:17:26 FROM IF YOU'RE A CONTRACTOR OR A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER?
11:17:29 WHERE IS THE ELECTRIC GOING TO COME FROM?
11:17:33 I DO GET FRUSTRATED.
11:17:34 I SEE THE BLOWERS THAT SOMETIMES HIT MY CAR, TOO, BUT TO
11:17:39 PUT A BAN ON GAS AND GO TO ELECTRIC, I THINK THAT'S GOING
11:17:44 TO HURT A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
11:17:47 GENERAL.
11:17:48 I COULDN'T REALLY SUPPORT THAT, BUT I CAN LOOK AT MAYBE
11:17:52 DOING SOMETHING AS FAR AS THE BLOWERS OR GET MESH.
11:17:58 AS FAR AS THIS GOING STRAIGHT ELECTRIC, THAT'S GOING TO
11:18:00 BE HARD-PRESSED FOR ME.
11:18:02 >>SAL RUGGIERO: WE LOOKED AT SOME ELECTRICAL ATTACHMENTS
11:18:10 TO FOR OUR CLEANUP OPERATIONS.
11:18:12 IT DOES GET EXPENSIVE.
11:18:17 STILL MAKES A POWER PACK WHERE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
11:18:21 ATTACHMENTS LIKE A BLOWER, A LINE TRIMMER, AND SO THE
11:18:28 INITIAL COURSE OF THAT EQUIPMENT IS -- THE INITIAL COST
11:18:32 OF THAT EQUIPMENT IS LIKE $1500 TO SET IT UP.
11:18:35 THIS IS COMMERCIAL STUFF I'M TALKING ABOUT.
11:18:38 SO YOU TAKE -- I'LL GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD
11:18:42 ENHANCEMENT.
11:18:42 WE WOULD NEED 32 OF THOSE, AND THE INITIAL COST WOULD
11:18:47 PROBABLY BE JUST RIGHT AROUND $48,000.
11:18:50 AND THEN THE LIFE DEPENDING ON USE, THE BATTERY PACKS --
11:18:57 THEY CAN BE RECHARGED BUT THEN THEY LOSE IT WITHIN TWO
11:19:00 YEARS, SO YOU HAVE A REOCCURRING COST OF $25,000 EVERY
11:19:06 COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:19:07 WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRACTICALITY FOR WHAT MY ENHANCEMENT
11:19:11 PEOPLE DO, THEY DEAL WITH A LOT OF OVERGROWN LOTS,
11:19:15 OVERGROWN ALLEYS, AND THE MANUFACTURER OF THIS, M & M IS
11:19:23 A LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR OF THIS PRODUCT, THEY ADVISED US THAT
11:19:26 THEY WOULD NOT RECOMMEND FOR THE JOB THAT WE DO TO GO TO
11:19:31 ELECTRIC, GO TO THESE POWER PACKS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT
11:19:35 GEARED UP FOR THAT.
11:19:37 THEY ARE GEARED UP FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE WELL
11:19:43 MANICURED.
11:19:44 THEY DON'T REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND TO PUT THEM
11:19:46 IN AN OPERATION WHERE WE GO IN AND CLEAN OUT AN ALLEY OR
11:19:50 OVERGROWN LOT, THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE PRACTICAL AND
11:19:55 WOULDN'T LAST.
11:19:56 THAT GIVES YOU SOME INSIGHT ON THAT.
11:19:59 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:20:03 >>BILL CARLSON: IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S NOT
11:20:05 CONSENSUS TO MANDATE SWITCHING TO ELECTRIC.
11:20:09 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
11:20:11 BUT THE BIG ISSUE TO ME HERE IS DUMPING ALL THIS WASTE IN
11:20:13 THE STREET.
11:20:16 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP OTHER POINTS ABOUT HOW MUCH
11:20:19 THE CITY HAS TO TREAT AND SPEND TO TAKE THIS OUT.
11:20:25 WHEN WE GET TO THE MOTION SECTION, I'LL PROPOSE A MOTION
11:20:27 AND SEE IF YOU ALL ACCEPT IT OR NOT, BUT ABOUT MAYBE
11:20:31 LIMITING PEOPLE FROM NOT DUMPING IT INTO THE STREET OR IN
11:20:35 OTHER PEOPLE'S YARDS MAYBE ALSO.
11:20:37 IT JUST SEEMS UNFAIR YOU CAN DUMP WHATEVER YOU WANT IN
11:20:40 THE STREET.
11:20:41 IT'S NOT FAIR TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:20:42 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:20:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THE HOURS IS DEFINITELY, IF WE
11:20:48 DON'T INCLUDE HOURS, WE SHOULD.
11:20:51 WE LIMIT HOURS, REBECCA, I BELIEVE FOR CONSTRUCTION.
11:20:56 I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW THE CODE READS, BUT IT SEEMS
11:21:00 TO BE THE SAME CONCEPT.
11:21:06 SOMETIMES ON A SATURDAY MORNING, I WANT TO JUMP OUT OF
11:21:08 BED AND START REAL EARLY.
11:21:10 MY WIFE SAYS, NO, IT'S TOO EARLY FOR THAT LEAF BLOWER.
11:21:14 MAYBE COMMON SENSE LIKE SHE HAS SHOULD PREVAIL.
11:21:17 OCCASIONALLY, PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT OR MAYBE THEY
11:21:22 GET UP EARLIER THAN OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE TO BE
11:21:24 REMINDED.
11:21:25 REBECCA, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON HOURS?
11:21:27 >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YOU DO HAVE HOURS
11:21:30 ON CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, WHICH IS 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
11:21:33 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
11:21:34 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M. ON SATURDAY AND 10 A.M. TO 6 P.M. ON
11:21:38 SUNDAY.
11:21:40 ALSO, YOUR CURRENT REGULATION 21-9, PROTECTION OF THE
11:21:44 PUBLIC DRAINAGE SYSTEM WHICH WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT
11:21:46 ALREADY DOES PROHIBIT IT FROM THE STREETS, INCLUDED
11:21:51 EXPRESSLY IN THE PUBLIC DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
11:21:55 IT SAYS PUBLIC DRAINAGE SYSTEM INCLUDES BUT IS NOT
11:21:57 LIMITED TO STREETS.
11:21:59 IT IS INCLUDED IN THAT.
11:22:01 IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT YET BUT
11:22:04 IT IS ALREADY IN THE LANGUAGE.
11:22:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:22:09 ANYONE ELSE?
11:22:10 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:22:10 WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:22:11 NEXT WE MOVE TO OUR WORKSHOPS, ITEM NUMBER 11.
11:22:17 THAT WAS A STAFF REPORT, SO THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:22:26 NOW WE MOVE TO OUR WORKSHOPS, ITEM NUMBER 11.
11:22:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: CATHERINE COYLE, PLANNING, ZONING AND
11:22:35 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:22:36 ITEM NUMBER 11, I'LL GO BRIEFLY THROUGH THE ITEMS.
11:22:41 NUMBER 1, REQUEST TO RECEIVE A REPORT ON OVERALL
11:22:45 EFFECTIVENESS.
11:22:46 THIS IS RELATED TO THE NEW TREE CODE THAT WENT INTO
11:22:49 EFFECT JUNE 1st, 2019.
11:22:51 THIS IS RELATED TO REQUESTING FOR THE WORKSHOP FOR THE
11:22:56 FIRST SIX MONTHS SINCE THE CODE WAS EFFECTIVE.
11:22:59 WE'RE ACTUALLY ONLY AT ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS RIGHT
11:23:02 NOW.
11:23:04 THE PROGRAMMING CHANGES TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE, THE
11:23:07 PROGRAMMING CHANGES IN OUR ACCELA PROGRAMMING SYSTEM HAVE
11:23:10 BEEN MADE.
11:23:11 THE FIVE NEW TREE TRUST FUND ACCOUNTS WERE CREATED SO THE
11:23:15 DOLLARS ARE BEING COLLECTED AS OF JUNE 1st AND BEING
11:23:18 PLACED IN THE FIVE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS.
11:23:23 AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE ACCOUNT.
11:23:25 THE TREE REMOVAL, FOR ELIGIBLE LOTS, HAS BEEN ADDED INTO
11:23:30 THE BUILDING, PERMA RECORD PROCESS ASSOCIATION THE DATA
11:23:36 IS BEING CAPTURED.
11:23:37 THERE ARE STILL TWO PENDING PROGRAMMING-RELATED ITEMS FOR
11:23:44 OUR ACCELA PERMITTING SYSTEM THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE RATE
11:23:47 NOW WITH OUR PROGRAMMING DIRECTOR, THE TREE MITIGATION
11:23:51 PLANTING PERMIT.
11:23:53 THAT'S BEING CONFIGURED TO BE RELEASED.
11:23:56 THAT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU PULL THE PERMIT TO PLANT
11:24:00 OFF-SITE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY AND THEN THE LAUNCH
11:24:04 OF THE REPORTING FOR THE TRZ DATA THAT'S COLLECTED.
11:24:11 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD COUNTS, AS OF THE EFFECTIVE
11:24:15 DATE OF THE NEW ORDINANCE, THAT HIT AUGUST 2019,
11:24:19 SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER HEARINGS FOR VRB.
11:24:21 ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE PROCESSED THROUGH THE
11:24:23 VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD THAT I AM GOING TO MENTION WERE FOR
11:24:26 GRAND TREE REMOVAL.
11:24:27 IN THE AUGUST HEARING, THERE WAS ONE DENIED AND ONE
11:24:29 APPROVED.
11:24:31 NEITHER WERE APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:24:33 SEPTEMBER 2019, THERE WERE NO VARIANCE APPLICATIONS
11:24:36 SUBMITTED TO REMOVE GRAND TREES.
11:24:39 AND THEN IN OCTOBER, THERE WERE TWO APPROVED TO REMOVE
11:24:43 GRAND TREES, AND WE ARE NOW PAST THE APPEAL PERIOD TIME
11:24:46 FRAME SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ABLE TO MENTION THEM.
11:24:58 ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION.
11:24:59 WE ARE GETTING READY TO LAUNCH OUR FIRST ARBORIST CLASSES
11:25:04 TO CERTIFY -- TO ADD A CERTIFICATION FOR CERTIFIED
11:25:08 ARBORISTS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE TO PERFORM A CERTAIN
11:25:12 LIST OF DUTIES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY PERFORM.
11:25:15 THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE ESSENTIALLY TWO HALF-DAY CLASSES
11:25:18 IN NOVEMBER.
11:25:19 WE ALREADY HAVE THE FIRST ROUND OF PEOPLE ON OUR LIST
11:25:21 THAT HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE WANTING TO TAKE THE CLASSES.
11:25:24 AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PERFORM MANY OF THE DUTIES IN
11:25:27 THE CODE, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO INSTITUTE AN AUDITING
11:25:32 PROCESS PROGRAM AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO PERFORM ALL THE
11:25:36 WORK OURSELVES.
11:25:37 SO THAT'S A GOOD ADDITION TO UTILIZING THE PRIVATE
11:25:40 INDUSTRY TO HELP US WITH THOSE.
11:25:45 ITEM NUMBER 2, ADDRESSING THE FOUR INCH LIMB PRUNING.
11:25:50 SPECIMEN TREES ARE GRAND TREE SPECIES BUT THEY MEASURE 24
11:25:54 INCHES AND UP.
11:25:57 THIS WAS A NEW ADD TO THIS CODE.
11:26:00 DID NOT EXIST IN THE PREVIOUS CODE.
11:26:03 THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD HAVE SOME TYPE
11:26:05 OF AFFIDAVIT PROCESS PUT IN.
11:26:07 THE CODE ACTUALLY WAS ADOPTED.
11:26:09 IT INCLUDED SPECIFICALLY IN 27-284-2.3 THAT THE
11:26:16 APPLICANT, THAT ALL PRUNING WORK BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH
11:26:19 THE ANCI STANDARDS.
11:26:25 THE ARBORISTS THAT GO THROUGH THE TRAINING WILL BE ABLE
11:26:28 TO DO THAT.
11:26:29 TO DATE WE HAVE ONLY HAD TWO PRUNING PERMITS THAT HAVE
11:26:31 COME THROUGH FOR SPECIMEN TREES.
11:26:37 ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION ON HARDSHIP CRITERIA, AND THE
11:26:43 LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS HERE TO ADDRESS THAT ONE.
11:26:45 I'M AVAILABLE INFORM ANY QUESTIONS.
11:26:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
11:26:49 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:26:54 WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IS THE TREE TRUST FUND, WHEN I
11:26:56 GO TO CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT CALL FOR ASSISTANCE FROM
11:26:59 THE CITY, IT'S ALWAYS WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF SERVICE
11:27:05 TO ASSIST.
11:27:07 SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SERVICES DO WE HAVE?
11:27:10 SOME OF OUR -- SOME OF OUR ELDERLY SENIORS WHO CALL MY
11:27:15 OFFICE ALL THE TIME THAT THE TREES ARE COMBING ON THEIR
11:27:17 HOUSE AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THEIR TREES CUT.
11:27:19 I KNOW WE HAVE A TREE TRUST FUND THAT MONEY GOES IN WHEN
11:27:22 WE DO ZONING ORDINANCES, THAT THEY PAY INTO A FUND.
11:27:26 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT MONEY IS DIVVIED UP, HOW IS
11:27:30 IT DISPERSED?
11:27:32 THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW.
11:27:36 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 3 AND THAT'S WHERE
11:27:38 WE WERE GOING TO DEFER TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THAT.
11:27:41 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:27:42 I AM NOT PREPARED TODAY TO GIVE A FULL DISCUSSION ON THE
11:27:46 DISTRIBUTION OF THE TREE MITIGATION FUND, BUT I DID
11:27:49 UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT
11:27:51 FORWARD WAS CAN THE TREE TRUST FUND MONEY GO TO HELP
11:27:54 PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF HELP WITH THE TREE SERVICES?
11:27:59 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I KNOW CUTTING DOWN TREES CAN BE
11:28:04 PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE, THE TREE TRUST FUND MONEY CAN'T
11:28:06 BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
11:28:08 BECAUSE WE ARE COLLECTING IT TO MITIGATE FOR THE REMOVAL
11:28:12 OF TREES.
11:28:12 SO IT CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED FOR PURPOSES TO MITIGATE SUCH
11:28:16 AS PLANTING TREES.
11:28:17 IT CAN'T BE USED TO FURTHER REMOVE OTHER TREES.
11:28:20 AND I DO UNDERSTAND --
11:28:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN COUNCIL CHANGE THAT RULE?
11:28:27 >>REBECCA KERT: THAT'S ACTUALLY A CONSTITUTIONAL DUE
11:28:30 PROCESS RIGHT.
11:28:31 WE THINK CANNOT TAKE MONEY FROM PEOPLE TO MITIGATE FOR
11:28:33 SOMETHING AND USE IT FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE.
11:28:35 SO THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD
11:28:38 CHANGE.
11:28:38 AND MY COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THE TREE TRUST FUND IN
11:28:42 PARTICULAR.
11:28:42 BUT WHEN WE COLLECT MONEY FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE WE
11:28:46 CAN'T SPEND IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
11:28:47 OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO GIVE THE MONEY BACK.
11:28:50 >> SO BASICALLY WE HAVE NO FUNDS TO HELP PEOPLE
11:28:54 BASICALLY.
11:28:55 WE HAVE NO PROGRAM IN THE CITY TO HELP CITIZENS AT ALL TO
11:28:58 REMOVE TREES ARE?
11:28:59 >>REBECCA KERT: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY PROGRAM THAT THE
11:29:01 CITY HAS WITH THAT.
11:29:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH
11:29:04 SOMETHING, GENTLEMEN.
11:29:05 THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
11:29:06 I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TREE LOVERS AND I RESPECT THAT.
11:29:09 BUT IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, YOU HAVE LIMBS THAT ARE
11:29:12 HANGING OVER IN STREETS, THAT WORKERS ARE NOT CUTTING
11:29:16 MAYBE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO CUT THE
11:29:19 TREES.
11:29:19 IT IS A PROBLEM.
11:29:20 AND WHEN I HAVE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT FOLKS JUST CAN'T
11:29:23 AFFORD, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WE HAVE A STORM, OR
11:29:28 WINDS COME AND THESE THINGS FALL ON HOUSES OR FALL IN
11:29:32 THEIR BACK YARDS, AND THEY SIT THERE, AND THEN WE GOT
11:29:34 CODE, A FINE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO HELP THEM,
11:29:38 OR THERE'S NOTE A SERVICE TO HELP THEM.
11:29:41 I'M LOST FOR WORDS FOR THAT.
11:29:43 SO I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO SOMETHING
11:29:48 OR ESTABLISH SOMETHING TO HELP CITIZENS, BECAUSE THESE
11:29:51 ARE TRUE ISSUES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
11:29:54 IT IS A BIG ISSUE.
11:29:55 YOU DRIVE DOWN ON SANCHEZ STREET, DOWN ON 19, AND YOU SEE
11:30:00 LIMBS JUST HANGING IN THE ROADWAY.
11:30:03 HANG WILLING IN THE L IN THE ROADWAY FOR YEARS.
11:30:05 YOU DRIVE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:30:06 IT'S RIDICULOUS.
11:30:07 IT'S SO DARK YOU WONDER WHY IT'S SO GLOOMY OVER THERE.
11:30:11 THERE'S NO SUNLIGHT COMING INTO THE PLACE.
11:30:14 I MEAN, SIMPLE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND FIND A
11:30:17 WAY TO HELP PEOPLE, HELP COMMUNITIES, AND I UNDERSTAND IF
11:30:21 THERE'S A LAW THAT WE CAN'T TAKE MONEY FROM THAT HERE.
11:30:26 WE HAVE TO CREATE SOMETHING TO HELP CITIZENS OR HAVE A
11:30:29 FUND TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET TO HELP WITH THESE TREE
11:30:31 SITUATIONS IN THESE BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IT IS AN
11:30:34 ISSUE, GENTLEMEN.
11:30:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:30:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:30:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WASN'T NECESSARILY GOING THERE BUT
11:30:42 LET ME GIVE MY THOUGHTS TO MR. GUDES IN REGARD TO THIS
11:30:46 ISSUE.
11:30:47 I AGREE WITH THE LEGAL CONCLUSION ON THE TREE TRUST FUND,
11:30:51 BECAUSE I THINK I WAS ACTUALLY HERE WHEN WE CREATED THAT
11:31:01 SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
11:31:03 HOWEVER, I THINK IN THE CRAs ESPECIALLY, WE MIGHT HAVE
11:31:06 SOME FLEXIBILITY.
11:31:07 FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE PROVIDING UP TO $15,000 FOR PEOPLE TO
11:31:11 MAKE HOME IMPROVEMENT, OKAY, IF THEY HAVE A BAD ROOF, OR
11:31:16 A BAD PLUMBING OR THAT SORT OF THING.
11:31:19 WE JUST, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTED THAT PROGRAM FOR UP TO 30
11:31:23 FAMILIES TO DO THAT.
11:31:24 I THINK WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THAT
11:31:27 PROGRAM, IF SOMEBODY HAS A TREE ISSUE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S
11:31:34 POTENTIALLY A RISK OR DANGER TO THEIR HOME, NUMBER ONE.
11:31:38 SO I THINK WE COULD DO THAT WITH OUR CRA MONEY AND THE
11:31:42 CRA PROGRAM.
11:31:42 ALL WE HAVE TO DO SINCE WE GOT THAT PROGRAM IS TO INCLUDE
11:31:47 THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
11:31:48 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
11:31:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DID APPROVE A TAMPA CRA SO PUT THE
11:31:55 TREE CUTTING COMPONENT IN THERE.
11:31:57 BUT SOME OF THOSE AREAS --
11:32:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW.
11:32:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO, YOU KNOW, EAST TAMPA SAW THAT, AND
11:32:05 I'M GLAD WE ADDRESSED THAT. BUT WE SHOULD AS COUNCIL AS
11:32:09 A WHOLE AS WELL, SO WE NEED TO GET TO THESE OTHER PLACES
11:32:12 AS WELL.
11:32:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED WAS
11:32:15 LIMBS HANGING OUT INTO THE STREET.
11:32:18 AND CLEARLY THAT'S A CITY RESPONSIBILITY.
11:32:22 EVEN IF THE BASE OF THE TREE IS OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY WHEN
11:32:26 THAT BRANCH EXTENDS OUT OVER THE STREET, ESPECIALLY IF
11:32:30 IT'S LOW ENOUGH THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HITTING TRUCKS OR
11:32:33 WHATEVER, THEN THAT IS A CITY RESPONSIBILITY.
11:32:36 I THINK -- AS A MATTER OF FACT, I CALLED ONE IN YESTERDAY
11:32:39 BECAUSE IT WAS BLOCKING THE VIEW RIGHT THERE AT THE
11:32:42 CORNER OF CYPRESS AND ARMENIA, WAS BLOCKING THE VIEW OF
11:32:45 THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.
11:32:48 AS I APPROACHED THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, THE TREE WAS HANGING
11:32:50 SO LOW, I COULDN'T SEE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.
11:32:52 I KNEW IT WAS THERE BECAUSE I DRIVE THERE OFTEN.
11:32:55 BUT I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, WOW, SOMEBODY COULD GET
11:33:00 T-BONED AND NOT SEE THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT.
11:33:02 BUT WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT AND MAKE SURE THAT
11:33:05 DEPARTMENT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENT THAT IS.
11:33:07 >> FORESTRY?
11:33:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TREES IN THE STREET?
11:33:12 PARKS?
11:33:13 >> YES.
11:33:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THEY HAVE A SMALL CREW THERE.
11:33:19 VERY SMALL.
11:33:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE WE NEED TO BEEF THAT UP.
11:33:23 MS. COYLE, IN REGARD TO THE ORIGINAL PART OF THIS
11:33:27 PRESENTATION, IN REGARD TO THE TREE ORDINANCE, OBVIOUSLY,
11:33:33 WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY
11:33:36 ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA.
11:33:37 BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:33:40 NUMBER ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT I
11:33:45 INQUIRED OF YOU IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS TO IDENTIFY
11:33:49 HOW MANY GRAND TREES OR PROTECTED TREES THAT HAVE BEEN
11:33:54 IMPACTED AND LOST, IN MY OPINION LOST, OR TAKEN OUT AS A
11:33:59 RESULT OF THIS TREE ORDINANCE.
11:34:02 COULD YOU GIVE US THAT AS PART OF YOUR REPORT?
11:34:05 >>CATHERINE COYLE: NO, THAT IS PART OF THE REPORTING, I
11:34:07 MENTION THERE'S A REPORTING REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE FOR
11:34:10 TRZ TREES, SPECIFICALLY, AND THAT'S THE REPORT THAT IS
11:34:14 PENDING PROGRAMMING TO ACCELA RIGHT NOW TO CAPTURE.
11:34:18 BECAUSE WE ARE INPUTTING THE DATA.
11:34:19 WE ACTUALLY BUILT IN THE THERE TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE THE
11:34:23 DATA IN THIS SYSTEM AND NOW WE ARE WAITING FOR THE REPORT
11:34:25 TO BE FULLY CONFIGURED SO WE CAN PULL IT OUT.
11:34:27 BUT IT IS SPECIFIC TO TRZ TREES.
11:34:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY NUMBER?
11:34:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND MANUALLY
11:34:35 CALCULATED AND UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT
11:34:38 RIGHT NOW.
11:34:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:34:43 I KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:34:50 I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS A THOROUGH EDUCATION ON
11:34:53 THE NEW TREE CODE IN TERMS OF HOW IT WORKS.
11:34:58 THAT BECAME VERY OBVIOUS TO US TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD
11:35:03 A COUPLE OF TREE CASES.
11:35:04 ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE ALL SORT OF FLYING BY THE SEAT OF
11:35:07 OUR PANTS IN TERMS OF SAYING, IS THIS REZONING COVERED BY
11:35:12 THE TRZ, IS IT NOT?
11:35:15 I DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWER.
11:35:17 I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY ELSE HAD THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
11:35:20 AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS WE NEED TO BE TRAINED ON
11:35:24 THAT.
11:35:30 >>CATHERINE COYLE: WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND DO
11:35:32 A WORKSHOP.
11:35:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT NEED
11:35:35 IN TERMS OF TIME, I MEAN IN TERMS OF MINUTES, TO COME
11:35:42 BACK AND GIVE US A DECENT EDUCATION WITH SOME QUESTIONS
11:35:46 AND ANSWERS?
11:35:48 >>CATHERINE COYLE: WE DO A MINI TRAINING SESSION WITH
11:35:51 INDUSTRY FOLKS WITHIN AN HOUR AND THAT'S BEGINNING TO
11:35:54 END.
11:35:55 WE CAN CONDENSE THAT AS NEEDED.
11:35:57 AND THAT DOES ALLOW FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL.
11:36:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:36:01 I'LL HOLD THAT MOTION.
11:36:03 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I BELIEVE MS. KERT HAS SOME INPUT.
11:36:07 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:36:08 WE HAD REQUESTED A FEW ADDITIONAL MINUTES AS PART OF THIS
11:36:10 WORKSHOP TO GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION ABOUT THE TREE
11:36:13 REMOVAL OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE TRZ BECAUSE IT'S NOT A
11:36:20 COMPLETE TREE CODE FROM START TO FINISH WHICH COUNCILMAN
11:36:23 DINGFELDER HAS REQUESTED.
11:36:24 BUT WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH QUESTIONS I DO HAVE A SHORT
11:36:26 PRESENTATION.
11:36:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
11:36:28 I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE DONE.
11:36:29 >> OKAY.
11:36:32 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:36:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING.
11:36:36 THERE WAS A REPORTING IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" THAT
11:36:46 THERE'S A LAWSUIT GOING ON, ON GANDY BOULEVARD, AND IS
11:36:49 THERE ANY WAY THAT ANYTHING WE SAY MAY BE IN THIS
11:36:54 LAWSUIT?
11:36:55 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:57 NOT ABOUT WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT.
11:36:59 THAT DEALS WITH STATE LAW.
11:37:00 AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT
11:37:02 STATE LAW AND PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BUT WE
11:37:05 WOULD RATHER SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUALLY RATHER
11:37:07 THAN TALK ABOUT IT TODAY, BECAUSE THAT IS OUR STANDARD
11:37:10 COURSE AND WE HAVE PENDING LITIGATION.
11:37:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ALL.
11:37:15 THANK YOU.
11:37:16 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
11:37:17 MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED THE TREE TRUST FUND.
11:37:20 A LOT OF THE TREE ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT THE
11:37:23 STATUS -- I THINK THERE WAS AN AUDIT DONE BECAUSE THERE
11:37:27 WAS AN ALLEGATION A THAT A LOT OF IT WAS SWEPT AND USED
11:37:30 FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
11:37:31 WAS THAT DONE?
11:37:32 DID I MISS THE RESULT OF THAT?
11:37:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: TO THE NEWER COUNCIL, FOR REFERENCE,
11:37:39 THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WE ASSESS THE --
11:37:43 ASSESS THE FEES AN COLLECT THEM THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT
11:37:45 BUILDING PROCESS.
11:37:46 THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ALLOCATED THE MONEY TO SPEND IT
11:37:49 SO THE AUDITING WOULD COME TO THEM HOW IT IS SPENT.
11:37:52 WE DO THE REPORTING ON WHAT IS COLLECTED.
11:37:56 I'M NOT AWARE.
11:37:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:03 I THINK THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO REPORT TO US THE FINDING OF
11:38:06 FACTS, HOW MUCH MONEY WAS COLLECTED AND WHERE THE TREES
11:38:09 WERE PLANTED, OUT OF THAT FUND.
11:38:11 I BELIEVE IT WAS EVERY THREE MONTHS, EVERY SIX MONTHS.
11:38:13 I FORGET WHAT IT WAS.
11:38:14 I THINK I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT IT UP AND I FORGOT
11:38:19 BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS COMING.
11:38:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY RESPONSE?
11:38:25 OKAY.
11:38:25 JUST MAKING SURE.
11:38:27 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:38:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR HEAD OVER
11:38:32 THIS WAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MENTION THE LAWSUIT.
11:38:35 BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT IN
11:38:37 THE AUDIENCE, MS. CHELSEA JOHNSON, MS. BECK, MS. JOHNSON,
11:38:43 KRISTIN MORA, AND COUNTLESS OTHER PEOPLE WHO SPENT SO
11:38:47 MUCH TIME ON THIS TREE ORDINANCE.
11:38:48 I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY
11:38:53 BINDING TREE ORDINANCE IN THE COUNTRY, IN MY OPINION.
11:38:56 HOWEVER, IF I MAY SAY HOME RULE.
11:39:01 THE STATE HAS SUPERCEDED US IN A LOT OF THINGS.
11:39:05 AND THERE MAY BE A LAWSUIT AGAINST US NOW.
11:39:08 AND IF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR TREE CANOPY, I
11:39:13 SUGGEST YOU CALL YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, AND YOUR
11:39:15 STATE LEGISLATORS, STATE SENATORS, AND TELL THEM WE NEED
11:39:19 HOME RULE SPECIFICALLY ON THIS POINT.
11:39:22 WAS I ABLE TO SAY THAT?
11:39:23 >> YOU JUST DID.
11:39:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:39:29 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:39:31 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:39:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
11:39:33 SO I WANTED TO ASK A SIMILAR TYPE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
11:39:38 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
11:39:39 MS. BECK, YOU ARE RIDING BACK THERE.
11:39:44 I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
11:39:46 IT'S NOT RELATED TO ANY PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
11:39:50 IT'S RELATED TO THE CITY AT LARGE, NOT RELATED TO ANY
11:39:52 PARTICULAR LAWSUIT OR ANY PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
11:39:54 BUT YOU AND I WERE CHATTING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
11:40:00 BUT I THINK YOU HAVE AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY AN
11:40:04 APPROXIMATION OF HOW MANY TREES THAT THIS COMMUNITY, THIS
11:40:08 CITY, HAS LARGE PROTECTED TREES THAT WE HAVE LOST THAT
11:40:15 YOU CAN A TRIBUTE TO THE NEW STATE STATUTE, GENERICALLY,
11:40:18 IN A BIG SENSE, NOT RELATED TO ANY PROPERTY AT ALL.
11:40:20 >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I HAVE
11:40:24 BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DEFER TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR
11:40:26 THAT.
11:40:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO THEY HAVE THE NUMBER?
11:40:29 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:40:30 WE DON'T.
11:40:31 AND WE UNDERSTAND AGAIN THAT THIS IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE
11:40:35 TO THIS I COME AND TO ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
11:40:38 IT'S A VERY BIG ISSUE.
11:40:39 BUT WHILE THIS LAWSUIT IS STILL PENDING AND WHERE IT IS
11:40:41 IN THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE ANY
11:40:44 COMMENTS ON IT BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT WILL
11:40:50 HELP US IN THIS LITIGATION.
11:40:51 AND CERTAINLY WE AREN'T TRYING TO HIDE THE INFORMATION.
11:40:55 BUT I AM JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO DO THAT.
11:40:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:40:58 AND JUST BEFORE YOU GET BACK UP THERE, I JUST WANTED TO
11:41:01 AFFIRM COUNCILMAN GUDES' AND DINGFELDER'S POINTS WITH
11:41:06 REGARDS TO ASSISTANCE WITH ANY TREE CUTTING THAT
11:41:09 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOUR POINTS ARE 110% ON POINT WITH
11:41:15 REGARDS TO TAKING A LOOK AT CRAs, AND COUNCILMAN GUDES'
11:41:20 OTHER AREAS SUCH AS SULPHUR SPRINGS, TERRACE PARK,
11:41:24 COPELAND PARK, ET CETERA.
11:41:26 AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF CRAs WHERE WE COULD REALLY
11:41:31 USE THAT KIND OF ASSISTANCE.
11:41:32 I THINK THOSE TWO METHODS, I WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
11:41:36 THAT.
11:41:37 SO JUST FOR MY OWN TWO CENTS.
11:41:39 MS. KIRK, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP.
11:41:41 >>REBECCA KERT: AGAIN REBECCA KERT.
11:41:44 I AM GOING TO PROVIDE SOME HANDOUT DOCUMENTS TO YOU.
11:41:54 >>LUIS VIERA: WHILE YOU ARE COMING UP THERE, I KNOW WE
11:41:55 ALWAYS BREAK FOR LUNCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
11:41:57 WHAT IS -- 12:15 OKAY?
11:42:01 12:10?
11:42:02 12:30?
11:42:04 12:30?
11:42:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE GOT A LOT GOING ON.
11:42:08 WHY DON'T WE BREAK AT 12?
11:42:10 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY WITH EVERYBODY?
11:42:11 12?
11:42:12 OKAY.
11:42:13 WE SHALL PROSPECTIVELY BREAK AT 12.
11:42:15 >>REBECCA KERT: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:42:17 I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A VERY NARROW FOCUS OF THE CHANGES
11:42:22 TO YOUR TREE CODE.
11:42:24 THESE ARE NONHAZARDOUS, NONDANGEROUS GRAND TREES THAT ARE
11:42:27 BEING REMOVED FOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.
11:42:31 AND I AM GOING TO DO A VERY HIGH-LEVEL REVIEW OF THIS AND
11:42:36 EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT YOUR ROLE IS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO
11:42:41 SEE A LOT OF THESE BECAUSE FOUR MONTHS AGO, YOU ARE
11:42:43 ALREADY STARTING TO SEE THESE.
11:42:47 SO SOMEBODY HAS A NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREE AND THEY WANT
11:42:51 TO REMOVE IT.
11:42:52 THE FIRST QUESTION, IS THE LOT ELIGIBLE TO BE CONSIDERED
11:42:55 FOR A TREE REMOVAL ZONE?
11:42:56 THE FIRST QUESTION, WHAT IS THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE?
11:43:00 I AM GOING TO GET INTO THAT IN A SECOND AND TALK TO YOU
11:43:03 ABOUT WHAT LOTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSIDERATION ON THAT.
11:43:09 SO IT IS ANY LOT THAT IS 65 FEET OR LESS IN WIDTH, 130
11:43:17 FEET OR LESS IN DEPTH, AND 6500 SQUARE FEET IN LOT AREA
11:43:20 OR LESS, AND IT HAS TO BE ALL THREE OF THOSE.
11:43:23 IF YOU ARE LARGER THAN THAT IN ANY OF THOSE
11:43:25 CHARACTERISTICS, YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE LOT FOR
11:43:29 TREE REMOVAL ZONE PURPOSES.
11:43:32 I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL
11:43:36 LOTS.
11:43:36 THERE WAS A POLICY DECISION IT WAS ALL SMALL LOTS, THE
11:43:39 SAME POLICY APPLIED WHETHER IT WAS COMMERCIAL OR
11:43:42 RESIDENTIAL.
11:43:43 THERE IS ONE THAT IS IN THE PARKLAND ESTATES OVERLAY
11:43:47 DISTRICT BECAUSE THOSE ARE COVERED BY A STATE LAW.
11:43:52 A VERY PARTICULAR AREA IN THE CITY.
11:43:55 SO WHAT IS THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE?
11:43:57 THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE, AS YOU START, AN EXAMPLE OF THE
11:44:03 LARGEST LOST, YOU START WITH THE SETBACKS, AND WHATEVER
11:44:08 THE SETBACKS ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT, AND
11:44:11 THEN YOU GO FIVE FEET IN ON THE FRONT, SIDE, CORNER
11:44:15 YARDS, AND TEN FEET IN IN THE REAR YARD.
11:44:18 AND ANY TREE THAT IS IN THE TREE REMOVAL, THE TREE
11:44:27 REMOVAL ZONE, IT'S LOCATED WITHIN IT, CAN COME OUT
11:44:32 ADMINISTRATIVELY, AND THAT IS MEASURED AT -- IT'S A
11:44:39 MEASUREMENT OF WHAT THE MAJORITY HAS TO BE AT THE TRUNK.
11:44:45 THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE.
11:44:47 THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT CAN COME OUT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:44:49 SO I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTION TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
11:44:56 ALSO, YOU WILL NOT SEE TREES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE
11:45:00 TREE REMOVAL ZONE BECAUSE THAT CAN COME OUT
11:45:02 ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:45:03 HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A HEALTHY TREE AND THE LOT IS
11:45:05 ELIGIBLE, OR THE TREE IS NOT WITHIN THE TREE REMOVAL
11:45:09 ZONE, IT WILL COME TO YOU.
11:45:10 AND IN ADDITION WHEN A TREE IS WITHIN THE TREE REMOVAL
11:45:14 ZONE, THERE'S ONE OTHER NUANCE TO THAT.
11:45:20 IF THAT STRUCTURE CAN BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY AND 15
11:45:24 FEET OF THE TRUNK OF THE TREE, THEN YOU ALSO CANNOT
11:45:27 ADMINISTRATIVELY TAKE OUT THE TREE.
11:45:30 THOSE WOULD ALSO COME TO YOU.
11:45:36 THE CODE PROVIDES A LIST OF FACTORS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER
11:45:40 WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY ANALYZE BEING THESE.
11:45:42 YOU WILL HEAR THEM EITHER THROUGH A REVIEW HEARING
11:45:44 BECAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH A VARIANCE, AND THAT VARIANCE
11:45:46 WAS APPEALED, OR YOU WILL BE HEARING THEM THROUGH YOUR
11:45:49 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.
11:45:51 THE MAJOR THINGS THAT HULL BE LOOKING AT GIVEN THE
11:45:54 CONSIDERATION FACTOR IS CAN THE TREE BE SAVED AND IS IT
11:45:58 REASONABLE TO TAKE METHODS TO SAVE THE TREE?
11:46:03 ARE THERE ALTERNATIVE METHODS?
11:46:05 AND WHAT IS THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION?
11:46:07 WHAT IS THE HEALTH OF THE TREE?
11:46:12 AND I THINK IT WILL ALSO MAKE CLEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE
11:46:16 EXPERT TESTIMONY ON THAT, AND EXPERTS WILL BE APPEARING
11:46:20 AT YOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS TO PROVIDE YOU AND UNDERSTAND
11:46:24 WHAT THE EFFECT OF REMOVING THE TREE WILL HAVE ON THE
11:46:29 HEALTH OF THE TREE.
11:46:31 I AM KEEPING IT AT THE VERY HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE YOU WILL
11:46:33 BE GIVEN ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AT THE INDIVIDUAL
11:46:36 MEETINGS.
11:46:37 IT WILL BE FACT SPECIFIC.
11:46:38 STAFF WILL BE THERE IF THERE ARE ANY FACTUAL QUESTIONS
11:46:41 AND WE WILL WORK THROUGH THAT AT THIS TIME.
11:46:42 BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING OF
11:46:45 WHEN AND WHY TREES WERE COMING TO YOU AND WHEN AND WHY
11:46:48 THEY WERE NOT.
11:46:50 UNDER YOUR CURRENT TREE CODE.
11:46:53 WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES A LOT MORE AS THEY
11:46:56 COME UP TO YOU ON THE INDIVIDUAL CASES.
11:46:58 BUT AGAIN WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD AN OVERALL
11:47:01 UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRZ BECAUSE MANY MEMBERS OF THE
11:47:04 COUNCIL WEREN'T HERE WHEN IT WAS ENACTED.
11:47:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:47:07 ANY QUESTIONS?
11:47:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:47:14 MS. KERT, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD IS IN REGARD TO THE
11:47:20 CONSIDERATION FACTORS.
11:47:21 AND SPECIFICALLY A FEW PAGES IN, IT TALKS ABOUT TABLE
11:47:27 4-2, NOTES, PRESERVING GRAND TREES, BUILDING HEIGHTS, AND
11:47:37 MAY BE APPLICABLE WITHOUT A VARIANCE, ET CETERA.
11:47:42 SO TELL US HOW THAT WORKS SPECIFICALLY.
11:47:45 NOT AS RELATED TO COUNCIL'S REVIEW BUT AS RELATED TO
11:47:48 STAFF REVIEW.
11:47:49 >>REBECCA KERT: I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN A CHART.
11:47:55 I AM TRYING TO GET TO THE RIGHT FOLDER ON THAT ONE.
11:48:10 CHANGES TO SETBACKS CAN BE MADE ADMINISTRATIVELY TO SAVE
11:48:13 A TREE.
11:48:15 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UP TO 25% REDUCTION FOR FRONT AND CORNER
11:48:19 YARDS, UP TO ONE FOOT REDUCTION FOR SIDE YARD, 20 H 40%
11:48:24 FOR REAR YARDS AND 10% INCREASE FOR BUILDING HEIGHT.
11:48:28 THIS CAN BE DONE WITHOUT DESIGN EXCEPTION AND WITHOUT
11:48:30 COMING TO COUNCIL, WITHOUT GOING TO THE VRB, IN ORDER TO
11:48:33 SAVE A SPECIMEN TREE.
11:48:36 IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS AS OF RIGHT UNDER YOUR CODE.
11:48:39 THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE IS MADE UP TO 25% FOR
11:48:44 SIDE YARDS.
11:48:44 THAT'S A DESIGN QUESTION 2.
11:48:47 WHAT THAT MEANS TO YOU IS IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE
11:48:49 DECISION, THAT NOTICE IS PROVIDED, SO THERE'S AN
11:48:52 OPPORTUNITY TOP REVIEW IT.
11:48:53 PARTICULARLY WITH SIDE YARDS YOU HAVE INTERACTION WITH
11:48:57 YOUR NEIGHBORS.
11:48:57 SO THOSE WERE PULLED OUT AND PUT IN A PUBLIC HEARING
11:49:02 PROCESS.
11:49:03 BUT THE REST OF THOSE ARE ALLOWED AS OF RIGHT.
11:49:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION I GUESS IS IN REGARD TO
11:49:09 THE INTERPRETATION OF THIS PAGE, THIS PROVISION, IS THIS
11:49:16 SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN MANDATE TO THE BUILDER, TO THE
11:49:21 PROPERTY OWNER, TO THE DEVELOPER?
11:49:23 IN OTHER WORDS, THE DEVELOPER -- IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THE
11:49:27 DEVELOPER SAY, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE HOUSE, I DON'T
11:49:31 WANT TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET, I DON'T WANT TO BE
11:49:34 CLOSER TO THE SIDE, I DON'T WANT TO BE CLOSER TO THE
11:49:36 REAR.
11:49:36 THIS TREE IS IN THE TRZ AREA, AND THEREFORE I WANT TO
11:49:43 TAKE IT OUT.
11:49:45 OR, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, CAN STAFF UTILIZE THIS PAGE
11:49:49 AND SAY, WE BELIEVE YOU CAN SAVE THE TREE BY SLIDING THIS
11:49:53 HOUSE OR BUILDING UP CLOSER TO THE STREET, AND THAT'S AN
11:49:58 APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IN ORDER TO SAVE THIS
11:50:01 100-YEAR-OLD GRAND TREE?
11:50:03 >>REBECCA KERT: THESE PROVISIONS COME INTO PLAY WHEN YOU
11:50:06 ARE CONSIDERING REASONABLE CONFIGURATION.
11:50:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN WHO IS?
11:50:11 >>REBECCA KERT: WHEN THE VRB OR CITY COUNCIL, IN THE
11:50:15 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OR PETITION FOR REVIEW OF A VRB
11:50:19 DECISION.
11:50:20 THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY COME INTO PLAY WHEN IT'S IN THE
11:50:23 TRZ BECAUSE YOU HAVE A RIGHT, IF YOU MEET THE
11:50:26 REQUIREMENTS OF THE TRZ, THAT TREE HAS A RIGHT TO BE
11:50:29 REMOVED.
11:50:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT.
11:50:32 >> YES.
11:50:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IT'S NOT A POINT I AM GOING TO
11:50:35 ELABORATE TOO MUCH TODAY.
11:50:37 BUT WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS EXPLAINED TO ME YESTERDAY, AND
11:50:42 PUT THAT BACK UP FOR A SECOND.
11:50:44 WHEN IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME YESTERDAY, AND THIS CAME TO
11:50:48 MIND, THAT SOMEHOW WE HAVE CREATED THIS SECRET TREE
11:50:54 DECIMATION ZONE, AS OPPOSED TO BASICALLY SAYING, YOU
11:51:00 KNOW, WE SHOULD GIVE STAFF THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THAT
11:51:05 DEVELOPER AND SAY, OH, WE CAN SAVE THIS TREE IF YOU SLIDE
11:51:09 THAT ZONE UP OR SIDEWAYS A LITTLE BIT, OKAY?
11:51:13 AND MR. CITRO, I TOTALLY RESPECT WHAT YOU SAID AND
11:51:17 RESPECT THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.
11:51:19 BUT NOTHING IS EVER PERFECT.
11:51:20 AND I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD, WE, WORKING
11:51:23 WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, SHOULD
11:51:25 ADDRESS THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE, IS CAN THE RZ ZONE BE SORT
11:51:31 OF A SLIDING BOX, OKAY, AND MAYBE IF WE SLID THIS BOX,
11:51:38 THE DEVELOPMENT BOX, IF STAFF HAD THE ABILITY TO SLIDE
11:51:42 THAT DEVELOPMENT BOX UP SIDEWAYS OR DOWN TO SAVE THE
11:51:46 TREE, THEN EVERYBODY'S PURPOSE IS SERVED.
11:51:51 WE HAVE SAVED THE TREE.
11:51:52 BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE SAVED THE DEVELOPER'S PROPERTY
11:51:55 RIGHTS, THE OWNER OWNER'S PROPERTY RIGHTS BY ALLOWING
11:51:59 THEM TO BUILD THAT SAME HOME JUST SLIGHTLY ELSEWHERE ON
11:52:02 THE LOT.
11:52:02 SO, ANYWAY, DON'T WANT TO GO INTO IT MUCH FURTHER TODAY,
11:52:07 BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
11:52:10 AND ESPECIALLY AS CATHY COYLE COMES BACK TO US WITH A
11:52:14 FURTHER REPORT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.
11:52:17 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:52:20 CERTAINLY THESE ARE POLICY ISSUES, AND THE POLICY ISSUES
11:52:22 THAT WILL DETERMINE IF THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME AREA WHERE
11:52:25 THERE WAS SOME LEVEL OF CERTAINTY.
11:52:27 THAT WAS A POLICY DECISION OF THE PRIOR COUNCIL AFTER
11:52:31 MUCH DISCUSSION.
11:52:32 CERTAINLY IT IS A POLICY DECISION THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED.
11:52:34 AND I DID NEGLECT TO MENTION THAT EVERYTHING IN MY
11:52:38 PRESENTATION, ALL THESE HANDOUTS, WAS CREATED BY KRISTIN
11:52:42 MORA, AND ANYTHING THAT YOU DID NOT LIKE I WOULD TAKE
11:52:45 RESPONSIBILITY FOR.
11:52:46 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:52:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:52:50 >> THANK YOU TO KRISTIN.
11:52:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:52 WE APPRECIATE.
11:52:53 THAT NEXT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM
11:52:56 NUMBER 11.
11:52:57 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MR. BARTON IS HERE WHO WAS GOING TO
11:53:02 COMMENT ON NUMBER 15.
11:53:05 OKAY, 15.
11:53:06 EXCUSE ME.
11:53:08 IF YOU WISH TO COME FORWARD, SIR, YOU MAY.
11:53:11 MR. BARTON.
11:53:12 AND ANYONE ELSE WHO IS COMING.
11:53:14 HOW MANY FOLKS ARE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 11, IF
11:53:17 COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HANDS?
11:53:19 OKAY.
11:53:20 COME FORWARD, MA'AM.
11:53:20 >> I'M MARY LOU BAILEY, ONE OF THE CITIZENS THAT WAS
11:53:27 INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THIS TREE CODE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS,
11:53:31 ACTUALLY.
11:53:32 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T SEE COMING TO FRUITION,
11:53:38 ASKED ABOUT, WAS THE RECORDING.
11:53:40 AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE DIVIDENDS IN THE CITY.
11:53:42 AND ONE DEPARTMENT MIGHT DO ONE THING AND ANOTHER, THEY
11:53:45 COLLECT THE MONEY AND SOMEBODY ELSE SPEND IT IS MONEY,
11:53:47 THAT WE CAN'T LET THAT STAND IN THE WAY OF HAVING GOOD
11:53:51 SOLID FACTS AND TRANSPARENCY ABOUT WHAT'S COMING IN,
11:53:56 MONEYWISE, WHAT KIND OF TREES ARE GETTING TAKEN OUT, AND
11:53:59 THE COUNTERBALANCE, WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING, INTO WHAT
11:54:03 KINDS OF TREES, WHAT SIZE OF TREES, WHAT AREAS OF TOWN,
11:54:07 ET CETERA.
11:54:07 AND I FEEL THAT WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
11:54:14 WE GOT SOME THINGS MENTIONED IN THE CODE BUT THEY ARE NOT
11:54:16 BEING OPERATIONALIZED AND NOBODY GIVES US AN UPDATE AND
11:54:22 WE HAVE NO SENSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED UNDER THE NEW CODE.
11:54:24 I KNOW IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS.
11:54:27 BUT UNLESS YOU GUYS TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL ACTION TO
11:54:30 REQUIRE PARKS TO PARTICIPATE MORE FULLY IN THESE AND TO
11:54:33 HAVE MAYBE A DESIGN SESSION ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MEANINGFUL
11:54:38 REPORTS SHOULD BE IN PLACE SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE
11:54:41 WE TAKING OUT AND WHAT ARE WE PUTTING IN, AGAIN NOT JUST
11:54:44 THE MONEY, BUT THE KINDS OF TREES AND THE CANOPY AND
11:54:47 EVERYTHING ELSE ON AN INTEGRATED HOLISTIC BASIS.
11:54:50 I THEM THAT OUR CITY DESERVES THAT.
11:54:52 AND I ASK YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT FRONT.
11:54:54 THANK YOU.
11:54:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:54:56 NEXT, PLEASE.
11:54:56 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I WAS PART OF THE COMPONENT THAT WAS
11:55:05 WORKING WITH THE TBBA AND CHELSEA JOHNSON.
11:55:09 AND WE MET WEEK AFTER WEEK AND HAMMERED OUT ISSUES AT HER
11:55:13 HOME, ALSO HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND AT CITY STAFF
11:55:18 OFFICES.
11:55:20 THIS CODE HAS BARELY TAKEN EFFECT.
11:55:23 AND TO START MAKING CHANGES OR PROPOSING CHANGES BEFORE
11:55:28 IT EVEN IS REALLY IN THE SYSTEM, I THINK, IS GOING IN THE
11:55:31 WRONG DIRECTION.
11:55:33 AND WE JUST NEED TO GIVE IT TIME TO WORK.
11:55:36 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WALKED AWAY FROM THE PODIUM WHEN THE
11:55:40 CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THIS CODE, THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE
11:55:44 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WEREN'T 100% HAPPY, THE
11:55:48 BUILDERS AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WEREN'T 100% HAPPY,
11:55:51 BUT WE WENT AWAY AND WE WORKED AT IT, WE DID THE BEST WE
11:55:54 COULD DO, AND WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WE THOUGHT
11:55:57 WOULD WORK.
11:55:58 AND WE NEED TO GIVE IT TIME FOR THAT PLAN TO WORK.
11:56:02 ONE OF THE PREREQUISITES WAS THAT IN SIX MONTHS IT WAS
11:56:06 GOING TO BE REVISITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED.
11:56:08 AND AS CATHY COYLE ALREADY POINTED OUT SOME OF THE
11:56:12 ELEMENTS BENEFIT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN INTEGRATED INTO THE
11:56:16 SYSTEM FOR THAT.
11:56:17 AND I DON'T FAULT THE STAFF FOR THAT.
11:56:19 IT'S JUST A VERY LARGE COMPLEX PROBLEM AND I THINK WE
11:56:22 NEED TO GIVE THE CODE TIME TO WORK.
11:56:24 SO AS FAR AS MAKING CHANGES, I WOULD SAY DON'T MAKE ANY
11:56:27 CHANGES NOW BECAUSE THEN COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE GOING TO BE
11:56:31 FILLED AGAIN AND WE ARE GOING TO SPEND ANOTHER TWO YEARS,
11:56:34 WHICH IS WHAT WE SPENT LAST TIME, TWO YEARS, WORKING ON
11:56:37 DEVELOPING THIS CODE.
11:56:39 AND WE EXPECT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT MAY COME UP, BUT
11:56:43 WE NEED TO GIVE IT TIME TO REALLY GET INTEGRATED IN THE
11:56:48 SYSTEM AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH IT.
11:56:50 IT'S NOT PERFECT.
11:56:51 BUT IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING SO FAR.
11:56:54 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HAD ANY MAJOR COMPLAINTS OR MAJOR
11:56:57 ISSUES SURFACE BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:56:59 AND IF THERE ARE, I'M SURE YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IT.
11:57:03 SO THANK YOU.
11:57:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:57:05 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:57:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GENERIC COMMENT, NOT TO YOU, STEVE,
11:57:12 BUT TREES HAVE BEEN THERE 100 YEARS.
11:57:14 ONCE THEY ARE GONE, THEY ARE GONE.
11:57:17 OKAY.
11:57:18 NOT LOOKING FOR ANY RESPONSE.
11:57:19 YOU HAD YOUR TIME.
11:57:20 ALL I'M SAYING IS, ONCE --
11:57:24 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I HAVE 40 SECOND LEFT.
11:57:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE REBUTTAL?
11:57:30 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE COUNCILMAN IS
11:57:32 FINISHED.
11:57:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE BOTTOM LINE STEVE, ONCE THEY ARE
11:57:35 GONE THEY ARE GONE.
11:57:36 I AM NOT SAYING THE ORDINANCE HAS PROS AND CONS AND THAT
11:57:39 SORT OF THING AND I AM NOT SAYING I AM LOOKING TO CHANGE
11:57:42 ANYTHING NOW OR COUNCIL TO CHANGE ANYTHING NOW.
11:57:45 I THINK WITHIN A FEW MONTHS WE SHOULD REVISIT IT WHEN WE
11:57:48 HAVE SOME NUMBERS.
11:57:49 I ASKED CATHY FOR SOME NUMBERS.
11:57:51 SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T HAVE NUMBERS YET.
11:57:52 I ASKED KATHY BECK, AND WE WERE TOLD WE CAN'T HAVE THOSE
11:57:58 AT DISCUSSION TODAY.
11:57:59 I KNOW THERE ARE SOME NUMBERS OUT THERE ABOUT TREES THAT
11:58:01 HAVE BEEN REMOVED UNDER BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS.
11:58:06 BUT WE ARE NOT AT LIBERTY TO GO THERE TODAY.
11:58:09 BUT MY POINT IS THEY ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS.
11:58:12 SOME OF THESE ARE VERY, VERY LARGE TREES THAT WE ARE
11:58:15 LOSING.
11:58:15 I'M SAYING WE SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO
11:58:18 SAVE THESE TREES, AND TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS, IN A
11:58:21 BALANCED FORM.
11:58:22 SO THAT'S MY POINT.
11:58:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:58:26 >>STEVE MICHELINI: CAN I HAVE MY 40 SECONDS?
11:58:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MAY USE YOUR 40 SECOND.
11:58:30 GO FOR IT.
11:58:30 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU MENTIONED MY NAME AND THEN YOU
11:58:34 USE ME AS AN EXAMPLE.
11:58:35 BUT EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE COMMITTEES
11:58:38 WANTED TO SAVE TREES.
11:58:39 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CUT THEM DOWN WHOLESALE.
11:58:42 AND IN THAT RESPECT, I DON'T THINK THERE HAS BEEN THIS
11:58:45 CATASTROPHIC REMOVAL OF TREES UNDER THE CITY CODE.
11:58:50 THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
11:58:51 AND IT'S MANAGED, THE SYSTEM AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO MANAGE
11:58:54 IT, AND YOU HAVEN'T HAD PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY ABSOLUTELY
11:58:59 THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.
11:59:01 SO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST -- WE LOOK AT IT, EXAM IT. IF
11:59:06 THERE'S SOME ADJUSTMENTS, FINE.
11:59:07 OTHERWISE LET'S LEAVE IT ALONE.
11:59:09 THANK YOU.
11:59:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:59:10 NEXT, PLEASE.
11:59:10 >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
11:59:17 QUICKLY I AM GOING TO ADDRESS THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE
11:59:20 BECAUSE I WAS INTIMATELY INVOLVED.
11:59:22 >>LUIS VIERA: COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME?
11:59:23 >> CYNTHIA DUNCAN.
11:59:25 I'M AN ENGINEER AND A LAWYER AND I WORKED MANY, MANY
11:59:28 HOURS WITH CERTAIN ARBORISTS AND WE WENT THROUGH DOZENS
11:59:32 IF NOT HUNDREDS OF SCENARIOS, BECAUSE OUR GOAL WEIGHS TO
11:59:37 SHRINK THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE DOWN UNTIL ANY TREE THAT'S
11:59:41 IN THAT ZONE, WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING A HOUSE, IT'S A SURE
11:59:45 THING FOR REMOVAL.
11:59:46 WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY DOUBT THAT THAT TREE COULD
11:59:49 NOT BE SAVED, AND KEEP THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN HIS
11:59:54 RIGHTS.
11:59:54 SO THAT'S THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE.
11:59:56 IT'S NOT THE BUILDABLE AREA.
11:59:57 IT'S MUCH SMALLER.
11:59:58 IN FACT INTEREST DEFY YOU TO SAVE THE TREE IN THAT ZONE
12:00:02 AND YOU ARE BUILDING A HOUSE.
12:00:05 IT'S SIMPLY IS NOT REASONABLE.
12:00:07 IT'S PATENTLY UNREASONABLE.
12:00:08 SO THAT'S WHERE THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE CAME FROM.
12:00:11 BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GETTING EDUCATED AND GETTING
12:00:13 SMART ON THIS AND ANSWERING THE HARD QUESTIONS.
12:00:16 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I NEED TO TELL YOU IF THE TREE CAN
12:00:18 BE SAVED, I AM HERE TO TRY TO SAVE IT BUT THOSE TREES IN
12:00:21 THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE ARE THE TREES THAT CAN'T BE SAVED.
12:00:24 EVEN THE MOST ARDENT TREE LOVERS, THE BUILDERS, WE ALL
12:00:29 AGREE.
12:00:29 SO WITH THAT SAID, WHAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO IS YOU
12:00:32 HAVE TO BE FAIR AND YOU HAVE TO BE EQUITABLE AS YOU APPLY
12:00:35 THIS TREE CODE.
12:00:37 YOU NOT ONLY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CITY CODE, YOU HAVE TO
12:00:40 FOLLOW STATE LAW AND ENSURE THAT NO PROPERTY OWNER IS
12:00:43 UNDULY BURDENED OUT OF PROPORTION TO THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
12:00:48 SO THAT'S ABOVE THE CITY CODE.
12:00:50 YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
12:00:52 OR OUR CODE WILL BE THROWN OUT.
12:00:54 YOU CAN'T MAKE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS DECISIONS, FROM
12:01:00 NATURAL RESOURCES AND STAFF AND RELY ON THEIR EXPERTISE.
12:01:04 IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE TREES IN THE NORTHEAST TERRACE
12:01:07 COMMUNITY OR SULPHUR SPRINGS OR THE TREE IS ON DAVIS
12:01:11 ISLANDS AND YOU HAVE GOT THE DINA TREE COMMITTEE
12:01:17 DEFENDING IT, YOU SHOULD TREE EVERYONE FAIRLY BECAUSE IT
12:01:22 DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S IN THE POOREST NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN
12:01:26 DAVIS ISLANDS.
12:01:27 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE EQUITABLE AND ENSURE THAT SUBSTANTIAL
12:01:29 JUSTICE IS DONE.
12:01:30 AND I THINK IF YOU DO THAT, THEN OUR TREE CODE WILL STAND
12:01:33 UP TO SCRUTINY EVEN IN HIGHER COURTS.
12:01:36 AND PLANTING MORE TREES, PLANT MORE TREES.
12:01:39 THAT'S OUR ONLY DEFENSE RIGHT NOW AGAINST 1159.
12:01:42 SO PLEASE SUPPORT THAT.
12:01:43 AND I AGREE THAT THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED
12:01:46 RESPONSIBLE PRUNE PRUNING DONE, AND THE CITY NEEDS TO
12:01:49 FIND A WAY TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE GET THAT DONE, BECAUSE
12:01:53 RESPONSIBLE PRUNING IS GOING TO SAVE OUR TREES, TOO.
12:01:56 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
12:01:58 I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
12:01:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:02:01 NEXT, PLEASE.
12:02:06 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:02:07 IT'S HARD TO BE ONE OF THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS
12:02:11 WHEN YOU ARE TIRED AND HUNGRY.
12:02:12 CHELSEA JOHNSON FROM TAMPA.
12:02:14 AND I'M A FOUNDER OF "TREE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING."
12:02:18 AND I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH PREPARED TODAY BECAUSE I ACTUALLY
12:02:21 DID COME TO HEAR THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE 6 MONTH REVIEW
12:02:25 AND IT SORT OF SNEAKS UP ON VOLUNTEERS, YESTERDAY OR WE
12:02:29 WOULD HAVE HAD A LARGER TURNOUT.
12:02:31 FRANKLY I'M RELIEVED THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE MONTHS TO
12:02:33 HEAR THIS REPORTING FROM THE CITY WHO HAS DONE A
12:02:36 TREMENDOUS JOB WITH KEEPING UP WITH THIS NEW TREE CODE
12:02:39 AND WORKING ON IT.
12:02:41 WE SPENT MANY HOURS WORKING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:02:43 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BUILDERS, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY
12:02:47 THANK YOU TO THE CITY.
12:02:50 THEY HAD HOUSE BILL 1159 SPRUNG ON THEM AFTER WITH VERY
12:02:54 LITTLE NOTICE AND THEY ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO PROTECT
12:02:56 OUR CANOPY.
12:02:57 SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:03:01 A COUPLE THINGS.
12:03:02 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND OTHERS THAT ARE NEW TO COUNCIL,
12:03:06 I AND OTHER VOLUNTEERS MET OVER HUNDREDS OF HOURS WITH
12:03:10 THE BUILDING COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE FELT
12:03:13 BALANCED, KEEPING OUR CANOPY AND PROPERTY RIGHTS.
12:03:16 AND THAT CAME ABOUT FROM MANY, MANY HOURS OF DISCUSSION.
12:03:21 SOME OF YOUR VERY VOCAL TREE ADVOCATES FROM DAVIS ISLAND
12:03:25 TREE COMMITTEE CAME AND SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
12:03:27 THE BUILDERS SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
12:03:29 MS. DUNCAN AND I ALONG WITH SOME OTHER VOLUNTEERS HAD
12:03:33 GONE TO JUDGE LOYA ONE OF THE ORIGINAL WRITERS OF THE
12:03:40 TREE CODE, APPROVED OUR TREE PLAN.
12:03:43 WE WERE TAKING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE OTHER
12:03:48 VOLUNTEERS AND PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED TO DEMONSTRATE
12:03:50 HOW TREE REMOVAL ZONE WORKED.
12:03:53 THE PURPOSE OF THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE IS TO INCENTIVIZE
12:03:57 KEEPING TREES.
12:03:58 IT ALLOWS FOR BUILDERS TO HAVE A STREAMLINED PROCESS TO
12:04:02 MOVE A TREE -- A BUILDING A ROUND IN ORDER TO KEEP A
12:04:05 TREE.
12:04:05 SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE LOOK INTO OUR HARD WORK.
12:04:10 I AM HAPPY TO COME MEET IT WITH YOU AND SHOW YOU SOME OF
12:04:14 OUR DIAGRAMS AND MOVE AT ROUND AND SHOW YOU HOW IT WORKS.
12:04:17 BUT THE PURPOSE FOR ME TO COME TODAY -- AND I ONLY HAVE
12:04:20 45 SECONDS LEFT -- WAS TO ASK HOW CAN WE GET THE BALL
12:04:23 ROLLING TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND INTO
12:04:27 THE TREE PROGRAM? I'M JUST A CITIZEN.
12:04:30 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS DEALING WITH MONEY.
12:04:33 BUS THAT'S WHY I WAS HERE TODAY TO ASK HOW WE CAN MOVE
12:04:37 MONEY FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND INTO THE TREE BRAM.
12:04:41 I PERSONALLY APPLIED FOR TWO CRAPE MYRTLE TREES TO
12:04:47 MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF HB 1159 AND IT'S A TEN-MONTH
12:04:50 PERIOD FOR TWO CRAPE MYRTLES DUE TO LACK OF FUNDING SO I
12:04:54 WOULD LIKE YOUR HELP TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE PARKS
12:04:57 DEPARTMENT AND THE TREE MENDUS PROGRAM ON SOME ADDITIONAL
12:05:02 FUNDING.
12:05:03 MAY I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 30 SECONDS?
12:05:06 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
12:05:07 BUT I AM HOPING THAT HAD YOU ALL CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
12:05:10 THE CITY OF TAMPA ALREADY HAS A PROGRAM IN PLACE TO HELP
12:05:13 WITH TREE MITIGATION.
12:05:14 IN THE NEW TREE CODE, THIS WAS ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE
12:05:19 BROUGHT FORWARD AND IT'S EXCITING, MITIGATION TREES CAN
12:05:22 BE PLANTED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
12:05:24 TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TEND TO BE WELL CARED FOR.
12:05:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:05:28 WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:05:29 >> THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME.
12:05:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
12:05:31 NEXT, PLEASE.
12:05:35 >> FREDDY BARTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SAFE AND SOUND
12:05:39 HILLSBOROUGH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK AHEAD
12:05:44 OF THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION.
12:05:46 I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE REENTRY ORDINANCE.
12:05:49 AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE ARE FOCUSING OWN VIOLENCE
12:05:54 PREVENTION, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUTH IN OUR
12:05:57 COMMUNITY FEEL SAFE, OUR COMMUNITY FEELS CONNECTED AND
12:05:59 RESOURCES ARE MADE AVAILABLE.
12:06:01 WE STARTED OUR EFFORTS IN FOUR KEY TARGET AREAS, EAST
12:06:04 TAMPA, UNIVERSITY AREA, PLANT CITY, AND SOUTH COUNTY.
12:06:07 FOUR SEPARATE COMMUNITIES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, VERY
12:06:11 UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.
12:06:12 HOWEVER, ONE THING CAME UP AS A PRIMARY CONCERN, AND THAT
12:06:16 WAS WE NEED JOBS IN OUR AREA.
12:06:19 WHEN WE LOOKED FURTHER DOWN INTO THE DATA IT WAS WE NEED
12:06:22 JOBS FOR THOSE WHO ARE CHRONICALLY UNEMPLOYED,
12:06:26 UNDEREMPLOYED, AND THOSE WHO HAD VARIOUS EMPLOYMENT
12:06:29 INCLUDING EX OFFENDERS.
12:06:32 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.
12:06:34 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT FROM THAT REPORT IS WE
12:06:36 SEE THAT WE HAVE GRADUATES, A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF
12:06:40 POPULATION WITH COLLEGE DEGREES, YET WE STILL HAVE A
12:06:43 RELATIVELY HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBER.
12:06:45 WE STILL SEE THAT WE HAVE A HIGH POVERTY LEVEL.
12:06:48 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL DATA, UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS
12:06:51 AT 6.4%.
12:06:53 HOWEVER, IN THE POPULATION OF FORMERLY INCARCERATED
12:06:57 INDIVIDUALS, THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE
12:06:59 BEEN RECENTLY REPLACED OVER THAT THREE-YEAR PERIOD IS AT
12:07:03 46.4%.
12:07:04 SO WE HAVE TO DO LOCALLY A LOT OF WORK IN ORDER TO MAKE
12:07:08 SURE THAT PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS UNEMPLOYMENT INCLUDING
12:07:11 THOSE EX OFFENDERS OR RETURNING CITIZENS HAVE
12:07:14 OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILY SUSTAINED EMPLOYMENT.
12:07:17 EDUCATION IS THE GREAT EQUALIZER FOR ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT
12:07:21 AND ONE OF THE KEY STRATEGIES TO REDUCE VIOLENCE AND
12:07:26 CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
12:07:29 I WANTED TO HOPEFULLY HEAR MORE OF THE DISCUSSION FROM
12:07:31 STAFF.
12:07:31 UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO LEAVE.
12:07:32 BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I SPOKE TO YOU IN SUPPORT
12:07:36 OF ADDRESSING THE REENTRY ORDINANCE.
12:07:38 THE CITY OF TAMPA DID ITS DUE DILIGENCE A COUPLE OF YEARS
12:07:42 AGO THANKS TO EFFORTS BY HOPE AND OTHER ADVOCACY GROUPS
12:07:45 AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO LOOK AT BAN THE BOX, AND THE
12:07:48 DISCUSSION OF HOW MANY DO WE EXPAND THAT EFFORTS TO
12:07:50 INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO DO BUSINESS
12:07:52 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:07:54 I ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT HAVING SOME MORE
12:07:58 WORKSHOPS INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY.
12:07:59 WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE HERE
12:08:02 EARLIER BURR HAD TO LEAVE.
12:08:04 WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DATA, IF WE DO NOT AGGRESSIVELY
12:08:07 ADDRESS REENTRY THEN WE WILL VERY SILENCE IN OUR
12:08:13 COMMUNITY INCREASE, AND RECIDIVISM INCREASE.
12:08:17 THAT WILL HAVE A LONG-TERM NEGATIVE EFFECT HERE IN THE
12:08:20 CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:08:21 SO I ADJUSTMENT WANTED TO REALLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BE
12:08:25 ABLE TO SPEAK, AND BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION, AND PD
12:08:28 CERTAINLY WEIGH IN ON THE DATA.
12:08:34 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
12:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BOLTON, I AM GLAD YOU WERE HERE TO
12:08:43 GIVE US SOME INSIGHT.
12:08:45 AND IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO PRISON.
12:08:48 I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, OR CONVICTION.
12:08:51 YOU CAN BE ARRESTED AND NOT GO TO PRISON AND NOT GO TO
12:08:55 JAIL, BUT HAVE A SMALL MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION THAT
12:08:59 PREVENTS YOU FROM HOUSING, PREVENTS YOU FROM GETTING A
12:09:02 JOB, AND THAT'S THE SITUATION WE HAVE IN SOME OF OUR
12:09:05 COMMUNITIES.
12:09:05 SO I WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW IT'S NOT PEOPLE REENTERING
12:09:12 FROM PRISON.
12:09:13 CAN BE ANYONE.
12:09:15 A MISFORTUNE ONE NIGHT AND HAVE A CONVICTION.
12:09:18 AND THEY ARE HELD WHAT I CALL PUT ON THE NET FOREVER AND
12:09:26 THAT'S WHY I HOPE THIS AFTERNOON WE'LL GET A LOT MORE
12:09:28 INFORMATION FROM STAFF HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT SO AS IT
12:09:33 RELATES TO HOUSING AND JOBS.
12:09:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, I AM
12:09:38 FORGIVE IN FORGIVENESS AND SECOND CHANCES.
12:09:41 YOU CAN'T PUNISH SOMEONE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES
12:09:43 BECAUSE OF THE MISTAKES THEY MADE IN THE PAST.
12:09:45 THAT'S NOT WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT.
12:09:47 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
12:09:48 THANK YOU.
12:09:49 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT
12:09:51 THIS ENDEAVOR.
12:09:52 OKAY.
12:09:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:09:54 NOW WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LUNCH BREAK.
12:09:56 IT IS 12:10 OR SO.
12:09:59 IS ABOUT 1:00 OKAY?
12:10:01 1:15.
12:10:02 OKAY.
12:10:03 WE SHALL RETURN.
12:10:05 COUNCIL IS RECESSED.
12:10:06 [COUNCIL IN RECESS]
12:10:27
01:19:37
01:22:48 >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
01:22:52 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO PROCEED
01:22:56 WITH NUMBER 9.
01:22:57 I'M SORRY, ROLL CALL.
01:23:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
01:23:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:23:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:23:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:23:08 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:23:10 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:23:10 AND I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL BE OUT BECAUSE OF A
01:23:15 CALENDAR CONFLICT.
01:23:16 LET'S BEGIN WITH NUMBER 9.
01:23:18 DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE, SIR?
01:23:22 >> THANK YOU.
01:23:24 PROFESSOR SABIA IS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT.
01:23:32 BUT I WILL LET HIM EXPLAIN AND WHAT HE'S GOING TO
01:23:35 PRESENT.
01:23:54 WHILE THEY ARE QUEUING UP, I'M SORRY I MISSED THIS
01:23:57 MORNING.
01:23:57 IT'S BEEN A BIG DAY.
01:23:58 I WAS ACTUALLY WITH THE BOCC THIS MORNING.
01:24:01 THIS IS ACTUALLY A COUNTY PROJECT, BUT OBVIOUSLY CITY OF
01:24:05 TAMPA HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF
01:24:11 FLOOD RESILIENCY WITHIN THE COUNTY.
01:24:14 SO LIKE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS SAYING, TARYN SABIA --
01:24:22 >> WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME?
01:24:24 >> YES, I'M BRYAN COOK.
01:24:27 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME I INTERRUPT.
01:24:28 >> NO, ANYTIME.
01:24:30 FEEL FREE.
01:24:31 AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS 20 TO 25 MINUTES?
01:24:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MANY FOR THE WHOLE THING?
01:24:35 NO, I THOUGHT ABOUT TEN MINUTES.
01:24:40 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE A TEN MINUTES VERSION?
01:24:43 >> I CAN TRY.
01:24:44 >>LUIS VIERA: TRY YOUR BEST.
01:24:45 >> ALL RIGHT.
01:24:48 BUT PROFESSOR SABIA IS THE DIRECTOR OF FLORIDA CENTER, AT
01:24:57 USF.
01:25:00 AND SO WITH THIS PROJECT, I'M PROJECT MANAGER, I HAVE
01:25:06 PRESENTED A FEW TIMES.
01:25:07 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN FORWARD.
01:25:15 SO THERE WE GO.
01:25:16 I'M RUNNING.
01:25:18 SO I'M FROM THE FLORIDA CENTER FOR COMMUNITY DESIGN AND
01:25:21 RESEARCH AT USF, AND WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE ARE
01:25:26 WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT'S ADDRESSING THE PERILS OF
01:25:30 FLOOD LEGISLATION.
01:25:33 AGAIN, SO THIS WILL BE THE TEN-MINUTE VERSION.
01:25:36 WE WORK WITH COLLEGE OF PUBLIC HEALTH SO THEY ARE ONE OF
01:25:39 OUR COLLABORATORS.
01:25:40 AND THAT'S A MAJOR PART OF THIS PROJECT.
01:25:45 AND TWO OF THE 15, WE HAVE THE PERILS OF FLOOD
01:25:49 LEGISLATION WHICH ALL COMMUNITIES ADDRESS WHETHER IT'S
01:25:52 SEA LEVEL RISE, TIDAL INUNDATION WITH HURRICANES, INLAND
01:25:57 FLOODING, ET CETERA.
01:25:59 SO OUR PROJECT WAS SET OUT TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL AS THE
01:26:02 LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY FOR THE COUNTY.
01:26:07 SO WE WERE FOCUSED ON PERILS OF FLOOD PROJECT.
01:26:10 AS WE GOT INTO IT.
01:26:12 WE TRANSITIONED TO CALLING IT THE COMMUNITY VULNERABILITY
01:26:17 STUDY.
01:26:17 ONE OF THE MAIN ASPECTS IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE
01:26:19 COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST BUILDS STRUCTURES BUT THE COMMUNITY
01:26:22 IS VULNERABLE TO ISSUES OF FLOOD.
01:26:25 SOCIETY WE TRANSITION TO COMMUNITY VULNERABILITIES STUDY,
01:26:30 SO THAT STUDY WILL THEN WORK DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE PERILS
01:26:34 OF FLOOD LEGISLATION FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE
01:26:40 COMMUNITY MITIGATION STRATEGY.
01:26:42 SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
01:26:44 ADDRESSED, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS
01:26:46 UNDERSTANDING WITHIN PERILS OF FLOOD YOU HAVE SIX
01:26:50 REQUIREMENTS.
01:26:50 THE TOP THREE THAT ARE SHOWN HERE, REDUCE FLOOD RISK,
01:26:54 REMOVAL COASTAL PROPERTY, THOSE ONES ACTUALLY REQUIRE
01:26:59 DESIGN, AND DECISION MAKING, AND THINKING ABOUT HOW YOUR
01:27:04 COMMUNITY IS GOING TO ADAPT TO ISSUES OF FLOODING, THE
01:27:10 BOTTOM THREE OR MORE CHECKING BOXES AND YOU ARE GOING TO
01:27:14 COMPLY WITH STATE CODE FOR BUILDING, ADDRESS THE
01:27:17 COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM FOR FEMA'S FLOOD INSURANCE
01:27:20 REQUIREMENTS, AND THE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY STUFF.
01:27:25 SO OUR PROJECT, WE STARTED OUT REALLY BROAD, AS SORT OF A
01:27:32 NEW SUBJECT FOR OUR RESEARCH CENTER.
01:27:34 WE DO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE STATE, BUT THIS
01:27:37 ISSUE OF FLOODING, FLOOD RESILIENCY WAS A NEW THING SO WE
01:27:42 TOOK A STEP BACK AND WANTED TO START FROM THE GROUND UP.
01:27:45 WHAT WE STARTED WITH WAS UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE
01:27:48 VULNERABILITIES TO FLOOD ON A BROAD COMPREHENSIVE SCALE,
01:27:52 AND ALONG WITH THAT THEN FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WHERE
01:27:54 DO THESE VERY VULNERABILITIES EXIST.
01:27:59 THEN A FUN PART AT LEAST FOR US FUN THINKERS IS WHAT ARE
01:28:04 YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
01:28:05 THERE'S A LOT OF SCIENCE OUT THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT SOME
01:28:08 OF THE IMPACTS THAT WE MAY ENCOUNTER, AND THERE ARE
01:28:11 REPORTS AND THINGS THAT GOING ON.
01:28:13 I WOULD SAY THERE'S A LOT LESS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
01:28:16 AND SO WE REALLY ARE TAKING AN URBAN DESIGN APPROACH AND
01:28:20 SYSTEMS THINKING, DESIGN THINKING, APPROACH OF WHAT TO DO
01:28:23 ABOUT IT.
01:28:23 OUR STUDY IS LOOKING AT SEA LEVEL RISE AND IN THE
01:28:26 CATEGORY 1, 3 AND 5 HURRICANES, AND THOSE ARE ADJUSTED
01:28:31 FOR SEA LEVEL RISE, THE FOCUS OF OUR PROJECT IS ON THE
01:28:35 YEAR 2045.
01:28:36 SO WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.
01:28:40 SO OUR PROJECT, ONE THING WE HAVE BEEN STARTING OUT
01:28:44 FRESH.
01:28:44 WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HYDROLOGY SYSTEM IS AS
01:28:48 WELL AS THE BUILD ENVIRONMENT IMPACTS, ALTHOUGH I WOULD
01:28:53 SAY THOSE ARE WHAT ARE TYPICAL IN MOST ASSESSMENTS.
01:28:56 SO YOU SEE THESE ASSESSMENTS ABOUT FLOOD VULNERABILITIES
01:29:01 THAT TYPICALLY ACCOUNTS FOR PROPERTIES, BUILDINGS,
01:29:04 SOMETIMES JOBS.
01:29:05 BUT THE NUMBER 4 THERE IS THE PEOPLE, RIGHT?
01:29:09 THE SOCIAL COMPONENT AND HOW THOSE ARE AFFECTED.
01:29:12 AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE MORE AS WE GO THROUGH.
01:29:16 SO AS FAR AS THE HYDROLOGY PART, ONE OF THE THINGS WE
01:29:19 STARTED WITH WAS REALLY UNDERSTANDING AS WE DEVELOP AND
01:29:23 GROW, HOW IS OUR SYSTEM CHANGING? SO WE ARE CHANGING IN
01:29:26 SOME INSTANCES FROM A SYSTEM THAT'S ON THE LEFT OF THE
01:29:28 THAT IMAGE TO WHAT'S ON THE RIGHT, AND AS A
01:29:32 BUILT-ENVIRONMENT, WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY THE WATER
01:29:34 WORKS AND RUNS THROUGH OUR SYSTEM.
01:29:36 AS WE WERE DOING THAT, ONE OF MY STUDENTS ACTUALLY SAID,
01:29:40 WELL, WE ARE LOOKING AT BUILT ENVIRONMENT, AND THE PUBLIC
01:29:44 HEALTH ISSUES THAT NOBODY HAS EVER TAKEN A REAL HARD LOOK
01:29:48 AT THE ECOLOGICAL IMPACTS OF THE STUDY, WHETHER IT'S SEA
01:29:53 RISE, TIDAL INUNDATION.
01:29:54 THERE ARE A FEW STUDIES, BUT OVERALL THAT DOESN'T TEND TO
01:30:00 SHOW UP IN THE RESEARCH.
01:30:03 SO THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT MITIGATION STRATEGIES, AND THEN
01:30:07 WE ARE DOING THESE DIFFERENT -- ALL THIS WORK FEEDS INTO
01:30:12 OTHER ASPECTS, SUCH AS LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS,
01:30:15 BUILDING CODES, RIGHT?
01:30:17 WE ARE CREATING THIS TO FORTIFY THE WAY PEOPLE THINK
01:30:21 ABOUT RESILIENCY AND MOVING FORWARD.
01:30:23 SO WE SAID, IN THE BEGINNING, WELL, WE ARE NOT GOING TO
01:30:27 START FROM SCRATCH, SO WE LOOKED AT THE BREADTH OF
01:30:30 ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE, AND LIKE I WAS
01:30:34 SAYING, WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THEY ARE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON
01:30:38 BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
01:30:38 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CASE STUDIES LIKE KATRINA, FLORENCE,
01:30:43 THE DIFFERENT FLOOD BEING EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD, THEY
01:30:45 ARE REALLY SIGNIFICANT SOCIAL AND CULTURAL ASPECTS THAT
01:30:48 GO ALONG WITH THESE EVENTS.
01:30:49 SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A
01:30:54 VEHICLE, THAT AREN'T ABLE TO EVACUATE, OR YOU HAVE PEOPLE
01:30:57 THAT RELIANT ON LIKE SAY REFRIGERATION OR MEDICATION.
01:31:00 THERE'S ALL THESE SOCIAL ASPECTS THAT TURN UP IN THE
01:31:04 RESEARCH.
01:31:04 SO WE INCLUDED THAT IN OUR STUDY.
01:31:12 LET'S MOVE FORWARD HERE.
01:31:16 ALL RIGHT.
01:31:16 SO AS WE ARE COMPILING ALL OF OUR RESEARCH, WE CREATED
01:31:21 THIS HANDBOOK, SO THAT ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO ENGAGE ON
01:31:25 ISSUES, WE CREATED EVERYTHING WE WERE READING.
01:31:27 WE CREATED LIKE ONE TO THREE-PAGE SUMMARIES ABOUT THE
01:31:30 ISSUES.
01:31:31 SO IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CRS IS WITHIN FEMA
01:31:35 FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, THERE'S LIKE A ONE-PAGER ON
01:31:37 THAT.
01:31:38 IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR SUMMARY ABOUT WHO ARE
01:31:43 THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW,
01:31:46 THERE'S LIKE A THREE PAGER ON THAT.
01:31:48 SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.
01:31:50 AND IT IS ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S WEB SITE AS SORT OF A
01:31:53 LIVING DOCUMENT.
01:31:55 BUT WHENEVER WE SAW SOMETHING BE VULNERABLE, SAY ON AND
01:31:59 OFF RAMPS FROM THE SELMON HIGHWAY, MOPE NOTICED THAT ONE,
01:32:03 WE PUT THAT INTO A MATRIX AND CREATED THIS BIG LIST OF
01:32:06 WHAT ARE ALL THE VULNERABILITIES, AND SO THAT ENDED UP ON
01:32:11 THIS GIANT SPREADSHEET LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE TURNED
01:32:15 THOSE INTO MAPS.
01:32:17 SO TRYING TO FIND WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WHERE DID
01:32:21 ALL OF THESE VULNERABILITIES EXIST AND MAP THOSE?
01:32:25 SO YOU END UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
01:32:29 SO AS AN EXAMPLE, HOTELS.
01:32:33 HOTELS CAN BE TYPICALLY MAYBE THINK OF THOSE AS A BUILT
01:32:38 ENVIRONMENT FEATURE SO WE ARE GOING TO LOSE MANE MAYBE
01:32:41 THIS MANY HOTELS ALONG THE COAST, OR THESE HOTELS MAYBE
01:32:45 NEED TO BE REBUILT OR SOMETHING, AS ECONOMIC FACTORS
01:32:49 ASSOCIATED WITH IT IN THAT WAY.
01:32:50 BUT AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE PROJECT, WE
01:32:53 PUT EVERY MAP THROUGH THE LENS OF BUILT ENVIRONMENT,
01:32:57 SOCIAL ISSUES, AND ECOLOGY, AND WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS
01:33:02 THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, SO WITH HOTELS, IN A CATEGORY 3
01:33:09 HURRICANE, THE INUNDATION SHOWS ABOUT, I THINK, 32% OF
01:33:14 ALL HOTELS IN ALL OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ARE IN THAT
01:33:18 INUNDATION ZONE.
01:33:19 THAT'S A PRETTY BIG NUMBER.
01:33:25 S ESPECIALLY WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE HOTEL ASPECTS.
01:33:28 WHEN YOU HAVE 30 OR 50,000 PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE
01:33:32 EVACUATED OR FIND SOMEPLACE TO GO. THIS IS ALSO A GROUP
01:33:36 THAT MAYBE ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE
01:33:38 SURROUNDING LIKE THE PROCESS OF EVACUATION, SO THERE'S
01:33:43 ISSUES ABOUT THAT, THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
01:33:47 SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE SURROUNDING SOCIAL ISSUES AROUND
01:33:51 HOTELS ALSO.
01:33:53 THEN IN TERMS OF SEA LEVEL RISE, YOU THINK, WELL, WE ARE
01:33:56 CAPITALIZING ON OUR GEOGRAPHY WITH OUR HOTELS SO THEY ARE
01:33:59 NEAR THE COAST.
01:34:00 SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE SEA LEVEL RISE, IN A CITY WITH
01:34:06 USUALLY LARGER STRUCTURES, MAY BE IMPACTING THEIR HABITAT
01:34:09 MIGRATION, IF WE ARE TRYING TO CONSERVE AND RETAIN SOME
01:34:12 OF OUR HABITATS ALONG THE COAST, OR YOU MAY END UP
01:34:16 DEALING WITH SEAWALL ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT, WITH SEA
01:34:19 LEVEL RISE.
01:34:21 YOU HAVE OTHER ASPECTS LIKE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE CARS,
01:34:25 OR WE CALL IT VEHICULAR -- OR I GUESS I WILL JUST GO,
01:34:30 THIS IS LACK OF VEHICLE ACCESS, RIGHT?
01:34:32 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP YOU CAN SEE CONCENTRATIONS
01:34:35 OF THESE CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE, AND I DO THINK THE NEXT
01:34:39 STEP WOULD BE GO INTO THESE COMMUNITIES AND DISCUSS THIS
01:34:42 ISSUE WITH THEM.
01:34:43 BUT WHEN YOU TALK WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOLKS, THIS
01:34:47 IS SOMETHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY HELP THEM UNDERSTAND
01:34:52 CERTAIN AREAS THAT THEY MATE WANT TO ADDRESS DIFFERENTLY
01:34:54 IN TERMS OF THAT.
01:34:58 SO THE SAME THING WITH SINGLE-PARENT FAMILIES.
01:35:00 YOU LOOK AT A MAP LIKE THIS AND YOU THINK ABOUT, THIS IS
01:35:03 A POPULATION ROUTE THAT MAY DEAL WITH AN EVENT, HURRICANE
01:35:07 SITUATION IN A CERTAIN WAY, OR MAY AFFECT THEM
01:35:11 DIFFERENTLY, BUT ALSO WHEN YOU VIEW IT THROUGH THESE
01:35:15 DIFFERENT LENSES THERE'S A BUILT ENVIRONMENT, SO
01:35:19 SINGLE-PARENT FAMILIES MAY RELY UPON SCHOOLS A LOT MORE
01:35:22 AS CHILD CARE OR RECREATION CENTERS, OR OTHER FORMS OF
01:35:28 CHILD CARE, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN RECOVER AND GET BACK ON
01:35:30 THEIR FEET AFTER AN EVENT.
01:35:35 SO THERE ARE THESE OTHER CONTEXTUAL-SURROUNDING ISSUES.
01:35:40 ALSO, SAY WETLANDS.
01:35:43 MAYBE NOT SO MUCH WHERE THE WETLANDS EXIST AND HOW THEY
01:35:46 ARE IMPACTED BUT HOW THEY ARE NOT SO YOU SEE A LOT IN
01:35:49 SOUTH TAMPA WHICH IS VERY BLUE IN A CATEGORY 3
01:35:53 INUNDATION.
01:35:54 YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE NOT AS MANY WETLANDS, AND THAT CAN
01:35:57 DEFINITELY AFFECT THE WAY THE WATER IS GOING THROUGH THE
01:36:00 SYSTEM AND NOT THE CAPACITY THAT TO STORE IT.
01:36:05 SO ALONG WITH THIS, THINKING ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF THE
01:36:07 SYSTEMS POINT OF VIEW, I WILL JUST SHARE ONE EXAMPLE
01:36:10 HERE.
01:36:12 WE TYPICALLY THINK THERE'S EVACUATION ZONES, AND THE
01:36:16 PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THAT EVACUATION ZONE MAY NEED TO
01:36:19 SHELTER IN PLACE.
01:36:20 SO IF WE TAKE THAT AS A POPULATION GROUP, WE GET THIS
01:36:23 SORT OF A MAP.
01:36:24 BUT THEN ALSO WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE HOUSES BUILT
01:36:30 IN A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ERAS.
01:36:36 THE 2002 MARK IS ESPECIALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE HURRICANE
01:36:39 ANDREW AND ITS EFFECTS ON BUILDING CODE MADE GREAT
01:36:43 CHANGES TO OUR BUILDING CODES.
01:36:44 THERE'S RESEARCH THAT SHOWS SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE
01:36:46 BETWEEN POST ANDREW CODE AND PRE-ANDREW CODE AND HOW THEY
01:36:50 HANDLE HURRICANES.
01:36:51 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT MAPPING OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND
01:36:53 WHEN THEY WERE BUILT, THAT'S AN INTERESTING FACTOR ALSO.
01:36:58 SO THEN LASTLY, YOU MIGHT THINK OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE
01:37:01 SUPPOSED TO BE SHELTERING IN PLACE, BUT MAYBE THEY LIVE
01:37:05 NO HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1920, AND MAYBE THEY ARE A
01:37:09 LOW-INCOME GROUP, AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO
01:37:13 HARDEN THEIR HOMES.
01:37:16 AND SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP, YOU END UP WITH A MORE
01:37:19 TARGETED MAP THAT CAN BE USED TO THINK ABOUT THESE ISSUES
01:37:23 WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY LIKE IN EAST TAMPA, UP
01:37:26 NEAR THE USF AREA, THERE'S CONCENTRATIONS OF THESE
01:37:30 COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN OLDER BUILDING STOCK THAT ARE
01:37:33 LOW-INCOME GROUP, SO THERE MAY BE WAYS OF HELPING THOSE
01:37:39 COMMUNITIES SORT OF MOVE ALONG OR PREPARE FOR SOME KIND
01:37:42 OF EVENT.
01:37:44 THERE ARE A LOT OF GRANTS AND FUNDS OUT THERE, AND WITH
01:37:47 ALL THESE GRANTS, THE WAY WE THINK OF THEM ALSO IS NOT
01:37:52 DOES IT FIX ONE PROBLEM BUT YOU CAN MAYBE WORK ON MAKING
01:37:56 ENTIRE COMMUNITIES BETTER THROUGH THE FINANCIAL MEANS
01:37:58 THAT ARE AVAILABLE, FEDERAL, STATE LEVELS.
01:38:02 SO THERE'S A FEW MORE EXAMPLES OF THIS, BUT IN THE
01:38:07 TEN-MINUTE VERSION, I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF
01:38:11 WHAT WE ARE DOING.
01:38:13 SO OUR NEXT STEPS FORWARD ARE TO GO INTO THE MITIGATION
01:38:16 PHASE AND PRESENT A PACKAGE OF THAT INFORMATION TO SHARE
01:38:21 WITH ADMINISTRATORS, AGENCIES, AND THEN ALSO WITH YOU ALL
01:38:27 IN THE COUNTY.
01:38:29 BUT THE NEXT PART WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION
01:38:31 ABOUT WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE MITIGATING FOR THESE TYPES OF
01:38:34 VULNERABILITIES STATE WIDE AND NATIONALLY.
01:38:37 ONE LAST BIT.
01:38:39 WE ARE WORKING WITH --
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01:39:06 AND HOW THEIR ORCHESTRATION OF THAT $2.3 BILLION PROJECT
01:39:10 WAS ARRANGED AND MANAGED AND COMPLETED.
01:39:13 SO THAT'S OUR NEXT TASK RIGHT NOW.
01:39:17 THERE ARE PLENTY OF TASKS BUT THAT'S SOMETHING COMING UP.
01:39:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:39:22 ANYONE?
01:39:24 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
01:39:25 I SPOKE TO SOMEONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FROM NOAA.
01:39:30 I WAS ASKING ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE MITIGATION, AND SOME
01:39:40 BERMS AND EVERYTHING FOR DIKES.
01:39:42 BUT THIS PERSON SAID IN WE REBUILT THE MANGROVES, AND
01:39:46 MAYBE THAT'S THE SAME THING YOU CALLED THE WETLANDS.
01:39:48 BUT IF THAN WE REBUILT THEM ALONG THE COAST THAT THAT
01:39:51 MIGHT GIVE US ANOTHER FIFTY YEARS.
01:39:53 IS THERE A PLAN TO REBUILD THAT AND DO YOU THINK THAT
01:39:56 WILL HELP?
01:39:56 >> YES, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES,
01:39:59 ESPECIALLY TAMPA BAY ESTUARY PROGRAM FUNDING THROUGH
01:40:02 THEIR MECHANISMS, AND YOU ARE RIGHT, SHORELINES CAN
01:40:06 ACTUALLY BUILD SOIL OVER TIME SO THAT'S ONE THING TO
01:40:09 THINK ABOUT IT, AND THEY ARE VERY RESISTANT AS OPPOSED TO
01:40:12 A SEAWALL WHICH I DID VERTS ENERGY, THEY SORT OF ABSORB
01:40:17 IT.
01:40:17 THEN THERE'S ALL SORTS OF SCIENCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH YOU
01:40:21 NEED TO DISSIPATE, HOW MUCH.
01:40:23 BUT, YEAH, LIVING SHORELINES, THOSE ARE NATURAL SYSTEMS
01:40:26 THAT ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF ISSUES, AND THE THING WITH
01:40:29 THE NETHERLANDS, THE STRATEGY IS NOT TO BUILT DIKES AND
01:40:35 BERMS ALL OVER THE PLACE LIKE THEY HAVE.
01:40:36 IT'S ACTUALLY MORE IN THEIR ORGANIZATION, ORCHESTRATION
01:40:41 PROJECTS AND THE WAY THAT THEY PROACTIVE PLAN AND WORKS
01:40:45 WITH COMMUNITIES TO SORT OF PUT THEMSELVES IN A LESS RISK
01:40:50 BASE SCENARIO.
01:40:53 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:40:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS "THE
01:40:55 WASHINGTON POST" WHERE I READ IT AT.
01:40:59 BUT AN ARTICLE IN 2017 WHEN IRMA WAS APPROACHING, FLORIDA
01:41:04 SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SETTLED AS IT WAS.
01:41:06 YOU SEE HOW MIAMI IS.
01:41:08 YOU SEE HOW VULNERABLE WE ARE AS A REGION.
01:41:11 AND BASICALLY HOW YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE, AND
01:41:16 MOTHER NATURE WILL GET ITS REVENGE.
01:41:18 FLORIDA HISTORICALLY WAS MOSQUITO INFESTED SWAMP,
01:41:23 ALLIGATORS, ALL THAT STUFF.
01:41:25 AND I SAY BECAUSE OF GREED AND HAVING TO DEVELOP
01:41:30 SOMETHING BECAUSE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, NOT BECAUSE IT'S
01:41:33 SMART, BUT YOU LOOK AT THIS LARGE CHUNK OF OUR CITY GOING
01:41:38 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE AIRPORT.
01:41:40 BECAUSE THE AIRPORT SPACE WAS SO CRITICAL AND IT'S RIGHT
01:41:43 THERE IN THE DARKEST SPOT.
01:41:44 SO WITH SEA LEVEL RISE, AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED
01:41:48 ABOUT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO REGARDING MANGROVES AND
01:41:50 WHATNOT, BUT HOW DO YOU FIGHT MOTHER NATURE?
01:41:54 >> SO EVEN WITH OUR PULLING BACK FROM THEIR TRYING TO
01:41:59 DECEIVE NATURE THEY FOUND IT TO BE AN UNWISE ECONOMIC
01:42:04 INVESTMENT SO SOME OF THE GATES THEY PUT UP TO BLOCK OUT
01:42:07 THE NORTH SEA, THEY ARE ACTUALLY OPENING AND CHANGING
01:42:09 THEIR LAND USE WITHIN THE AREA JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE.
01:42:12 SO THAT'S ONE INTERESTING ASPECT OF IT.
01:42:16 THE 30-MINUTE VERSION OF THIS PRESENTATION INCLUDES A
01:42:20 SHORT HISTORY OF OUR REGION, WHICH TO YOUR POINT, I TOUCH
01:42:25 ON THAT WHICH IS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE THE FIRST
01:42:28 INHABITANTS WERE OVER IN SAFETY HARBOR, LET'S SAY, WHICH
01:42:32 HAS BARELY ANY IMPACT TO HURRICANE INUNDATION BUT IT'S
01:42:38 RIGHT NEXT TO THE COAST.
01:42:40 FIRST THING WITH -- SAME THING WITH FIRST STREET IN
01:42:43 ST. PETE.
01:42:43 IT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE BICEPS OF IN A VULNERABILITY OF
01:42:49 FLOODING.
01:42:50 IT'S ONE SPOT AND THEY WENT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT AND
01:42:53 THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST INHABITANTS LIVED.
01:42:56 EVEN THE INITIAL PEOPLE LIVING IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
01:43:01 THEY WERE FORT DESOTO.
01:43:05 FORT DESOTO WAS THE SECOND AFTER SAFETY HARBOR, CLOSEST
01:43:08 TO THE WATER, AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY HOOKERS POINT CAME
01:43:11 OUT AND PROTECTED IT, WHERE NOW WE HAVE DAVIS ISLANDS.
01:43:15 BUT IT WAS WITHIN A BAY WITHIN A BAY WITHIN A BIGGER BAY.
01:43:19 SO WE TEND TO LOOK AT THE GEOGRAPHY OF IT.
01:43:22 IT WAS ACTUALLY IN A PRETTY PROTECTIVE PLACE.
01:43:25 THERE WAS A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME, AND REALLY IT STARTED
01:43:28 WITH PORT TAMPA DOWN IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE
01:43:30 PENINSULA, BUT THAT THEN DAVIS ISLANDS WAS REALLY KIND OF
01:43:35 LIKE THE FIRST STEP INTO THE FLOOD ZONE, AND THEN OVER
01:43:39 TIME WE HAVE INCREASED OUR RISK, RIGHT?
01:43:42 AND THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE KIND OF LOOKED AT IT.
01:43:45 BUT THEN I THINK THE NEXT APPROACH IS, SO WHAT DO WE DO
01:43:48 ABOUT IT?
01:43:49 AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL.
01:43:51 THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU CAN
01:43:54 GET MAJOR FUNDING FROM FEDERAL LEVEL TO DO PROJECTS FOR
01:43:58 THIS PURPOSE, WHICH CAN ALSO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
01:44:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS TALKING TO A 93 YEAR OLD
01:44:04 FAMILY FRIEND HOP DESIGNED MY GRANDFATHER'S MAUSOLEUM,
01:44:10 OVER IN MYRTLE HILL CEMETERY IN EAST TAMPA, AND HE SAYS
01:44:13 THE WAY I DESIGNED IT AND THE WAY I WAS IT WAS BUILT IT
01:44:17 WILL SURVIVE A NUCLEAR BLAST, AND I TOLD HIM IT'S NOT
01:44:20 NUCLEAR WAR WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT, IT'S SEA LEVEL RISE.
01:44:23 THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE UNDERWATER. ANYWAY, A HOT TOPIC.
01:44:30 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:44:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, IN LOOKING AT THE AUDIENCE,
01:44:36 WERE WE GOING TO CALL ON OUR OWN STAFF NEXT ON THIS
01:44:38 TOPIC?
01:44:39 BECAUSE THEY ARE LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
01:44:41 AND I SEE MR. BAIRD PERHAPS FOR STORMWATER, AND ALSO MR.
01:44:45 SNELLING FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.
01:44:47 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
01:44:51 WE APPRECIATE THE DIRECTOR'S CUT AND SO THANK YOU.
01:44:55 >>BRAD BAIRD: PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
01:45:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN WORKING ON,
01:45:11 ON THIS ISSUE?
01:45:12 >>BRAD BAIRD: FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT MAYOR CASTOR HAS
01:45:15 A PLAN, HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST
01:45:19 FEW MONTHS.
01:45:21 IT'S ONE OF THE FIVE INITIATIVES THAT SHE HAS IS
01:45:25 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
01:45:31 SHE WILL BE SEARCHING NATIONWIDE FOR A SUSTAINABILITY AND
01:45:34 RESILIENCY OFFICER TO CARRY OUT THAT PLAN, IF YOU WILL.
01:45:42 AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF
01:45:45 WORK TO DATE.
01:45:46 I'LL START WITH STORMWATER.
01:45:50 WE IMPLEMENT THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT IN
01:45:52 2016.
01:45:54 WE ARE WELL OVER 100 MILLION OUT OF THAT 250 MILLION OF
01:46:02 PLANS, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES, SEVERAL OF
01:46:07 WHICH INCLUDE GREEN STRUCTURES SUCH AS RAIN GARDENS,
01:46:11 BIOSWALES, DAFFEL BOXES, PERVIOUS PAVERS AND THINGS LIKE
01:46:19 THAT, TO HELP THAT CAUSE.
01:46:23 OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADE, WE HAVE DONE THINGS LIKE
01:46:27 RAISED CONTROL PANEL BOXES FOR WASTEWATER PUMPING
01:46:30 STATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, BEEFED UP OUR FLEET OF STAND-BY
01:46:37 GENERATORS, EQUIP OUR LARGER STATIONS WITH PERMANENT
01:46:41 GENERATORS, SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THOSE STATIONS IN
01:46:45 OPERATION.
01:46:49 THAT'S JUST A FEW EXAMPLES.
01:46:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BRAD, I KNOW AS PART OF THE PIPES
01:46:57 PLAN, THERE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE SHY OF A BILLION DOLLARS
01:47:00 TO REBUILD THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND I CAN'T
01:47:06 HELP BUT ASSUME THAT A GOOD PART OF THAT IS TO RAISE THE
01:47:09 FACILITIES IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY RAISED, BECAUSE THAT'S
01:47:12 A HIGH VULNERABLE AREA, CORRECT?
01:47:15 >>BRAD BAIRD: NO, PART OF THAT -- FIRST LET ME BACK UP.
01:47:20 THE FIRST PROJECT COMING OUT IS ABOUT $254 MILLION AND IT
01:47:27 INCLUDES PRIMARILY THE REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT OF
01:47:31 EQUIPMENT THROUGHOUT THE PLAN, AND BUILDING ADDITIONAL
01:47:37 PRIMARY TANKS WOULD BE A BIG PART OF THAT PROJECT.
01:47:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IN REGARD TO RESILIENCY, ISN'T
01:47:45 THAT ALL PRETTY --
01:47:49 >>BRAD BAIRD: WELL, IT IS.
01:47:50 IT'S AN ELEVATION 10.
01:47:51 BUT MANY OF THE FACILITIES ARE HIGHER THAN THAT.
01:47:53 THE CRITICAL PART, YOU KNOW, TREATMENT PLANT, A
01:47:56 WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BY NATURE IS ALWAYS
01:47:59 DOWNSTREAM, AND IT'S TYPICALLY NEAR THE WATER.
01:48:02 SO IT'S HARD TO GET AROUND THAT UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE
01:48:04 MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY.
01:48:07 AND BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE TO USE
01:48:11 GRAVITY TO YOUR ADVANTAGE INSTEAD OF PUMPING EVERYTHING.
01:48:15 BUT GIVEN THAT, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AREA OF IMPROVEMENT
01:48:22 OF THE PLANT IS BUILDING ADDITIONAL PRIMARY TANKS, WHICH
01:48:27 THAT PARTLY OF THE PROCESS WILL BE ONLINE.
01:48:30 IT'S WHEN YOU GET TO THE SECONDARY PART OF THE PROCESS
01:48:34 AND TERTIARY THAT YOU HAVE TO LIFT THE WATER AGAIN.
01:48:37 SO THOSE PUMPS WOULD HAVE TO BE RAISED UP WHEN WE HAVE --
01:48:41 WHEN WE HAVE A STORM SURGE, AND WE WOULD OPERATE THE
01:48:47 PLANT MANUALLY.
01:48:48 WHEN THOSE PLANTS ARE LIFTED UP, THEY ARE OFFLINE.
01:48:52 BUT IF YOU HAVE PRIMARY TREATMENT THROUGH THAT POINT,
01:48:54 THEN THE DISCHARGE INTO THE BAY AT LEAST WOULD HAVE THAT
01:48:57 LEVEL OF TREATMENT.
01:48:58 SO THAT'S THE IDEAL.
01:49:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MR. SNELLING, I THINK YOU HEARD
01:49:07 THE USF FOLKS TALK ABOUT SORT OF THE BIG PICTURE, BUT I'M
01:49:11 SURE OVER THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS, WORKING WITH FEMA AND
01:49:16 WORKING WITH OURSELVES, WE HAVE MITIGATION AND RESILIENCY
01:49:22 GOING ON LIKELY?
01:49:24 >>THOM SNELLING: THE LAST TIME I WAS UP THERE I HANDED
01:49:27 OUT THE PROCEEDING THAT WE HAVE BEEN MAKING, IN THAT
01:49:30 REGARD.
01:49:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS SORT OF THE GREEN PICTURE.
01:49:33 I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY --
01:49:36 >>THOM SNELLING: AS BRAD SAYS, THEY HAD THE MEETING WITH
01:49:39 THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP PUT TOGETHER THE
01:49:42 SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
01:49:43 I THINK IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO.
01:49:45 AND WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR THAT TO COME ONLINE, START TO
01:49:50 DICTATE THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS IN THAT.
01:49:51 I'M SURE THEY ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE EVERYTHING THAT
01:49:53 BRAD HAS BEEN DOING AS WELL AS OTHER TRANSPORTATION
01:49:55 INITIATIVES AND SOLID WASTE AND ALL OF THE VARIOUS
01:49:59 UTILITIES THAT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH RESILIENCY AND
01:50:02 SEA LEVEL RISE.
01:50:03 BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE CITY HAS COMPLETED ITS
01:50:06 VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS.
01:50:08 WE GOT THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, LOOKING AT SAWN COLLEGE
01:50:14 BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE DOING THAT AT THE PLANNING
01:50:16 COMMISSION.
01:50:16 SO HE HAS COMPLETED OUR VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS AND WE
01:50:20 HAVE ADOPTED ABOUT 13 DIFFERENT POLICIES IN THE COMP PLAN
01:50:22 THAT SPOKE TO THAT RESILIENCY AND VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS.
01:50:27 SO WE ARE KIND OF AHEAD OF THE GAME THERE.
01:50:29 CLEARLY NOT -- I CAN'T -- BRAD CAN POINT TO MORE THAN I
01:50:36 CAN, TO A LOT OF LIKE STICKS AND BRICKS KIND OF THINGS
01:50:41 THAT SAYS YES, THIS IS GOING TO WITHSTAND SEA LEVEL RISE
01:50:44 AND THAT.
01:50:45 BUT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS OFFICER BEING
01:50:50 ASSIGNED SO HE CAN GET TO WORK ON THAT.
01:50:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:50:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
01:51:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW SINCE WE SET THIS UP THAT THE
01:51:03 MAYOR HAS COME OUT MORE AGGRESSIVELY AND EVERYTHING AND
01:51:06 SAID THIS IS JUST KIND OF PARALLEL TO ALL OF THAT.
01:51:10 BUT I DON'T KNOW, MR. SNELLING, IF YOU OR MR. BAIRD, MY
01:51:15 RECOLLECTION, TELL ME IF I AM RIGHT, IS THE STORMWATER
01:51:19 TAX THAT WAS PASSED AND THE STORMWATER PLAN GOING THROUGH
01:51:21 AND THE WATER WASTEWATER PLANT, THAT IS DEALING WITH THE
01:51:25 CURRENT SITUATION, MOST IF NOT ALL OF IT DOESN'T
01:51:29 ANTICIPATE SEA LEVEL RISE, CORRECT?
01:51:31 SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS A SEPARATE ISSUE?
01:51:35 >>THOM SNELLING: I WILL LED BRAD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
01:51:37 >>BRAD BAIRD: BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS DO INCLUDE AN
01:51:42 ELEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH SEA LEVEL RISE, BUT THAT IS NOT
01:51:46 FUNDED SPECIFICALLY UNDER THOSE TWO PLANS.
01:51:49 I DO WANT TO USE ONE EXAMPLE UNDER THE WATER AND
01:51:53 WASTEWATER PIPES PROGRAM.
01:51:56 MANY OF OUR WASTEWATER PIPELINES, GRAVITY PIPELINES, ARE
01:52:01 AGING, AS WE PRESENTED BEFORE, AND TAKE ON WHAT IS CALLED
01:52:06 INFILTRATION AND INFLOW INTO THE PIPELINE.
01:52:09 IF THE PIPELINE IS SAY 8 FEET DEEP AND THE WATER TABLE IS
01:52:14 ONLY 3 FEET DEEP, THEN ANY CRACKS IN THAT PIPELINE WILL
01:52:19 TAKE ON THAT SHALLOW AQUIFER, AND THEN THAT MEANS WE HAVE
01:52:23 TO TREAT MORE WASTEWATER DOWN AT HOWARD F. CURREN
01:52:28 TREATMENT PLANT.
01:52:29 THIS LINING OF THOSE PIPES WILL TAKE CARE OF THE MAIN
01:52:32 PIPE LANES.
01:52:33 IT WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF THE LATERALS BUT IT WILL TAKE
01:52:35 CARE OF THE MAIN PIPELINES.
01:52:37 I SHOULDN'T SAY IT WON'T TAKE CARE OF LATERALS.
01:52:40 IT WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR PORTION OF THE LATERALS.
01:52:43 BUT I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE SEA LEVEL RISE IMPACTS THAT
01:52:47 SHALLOW AQUIFER, AND MAKES IT SALTIER.
01:52:52 AND THEN WHEN THAT WATER IS SALTIER COMING IN, OF COURSE,
01:52:56 OUR CHLORIDES DOWN AT THE TREATMENT PLANT AND THE SALTS
01:52:58 IN THE WASTEWATER ARE HIGHER, AND IT MAKES IT A LITTLE
01:53:01 MORE DIFFICULT TO TREAT.
01:53:04 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO NARROW A SECOND, IF YOU DON'T
01:53:06 MIND, SO ON PIPES, AND I THINK ON STORMWATER, YOU LOOKED
01:53:10 WAY INTO THE FUTURE, OR YOUR STAFF LOOKED WAY INTO THE
01:53:14 FUTURE AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NEED, HOW DO WE ADDRESS
01:53:18 THE CURRENT ISSUES AND NOT JUST PROVIDE STOP GAP BUT LOOK
01:53:21 AT THE FUTURE.
01:53:22 IS THERE ANY CHANCE KNOWING THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY
01:53:25 PERSON IS NOT IN YET, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR BEST GUESS
01:53:28 AS TO WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE TOP APPROVE A PIPE STOP PROGRAM
01:53:32 FOR SUSTAINABILITY OR SEA LEVEL RISE?
01:53:34 IS THAT FIVE, TEN YEARS AWAY?
01:53:37 MORE?
01:53:39 >>BRAD BAIRD: I DON'T HAVE THAT TO DATE, BUT THE EXAMPLE
01:53:42 I USED EARLIER ON WASTEWATER PUMPING STATIONS AND THE
01:53:45 REHABILITATION AND RAISING THOSE CONTROL PANELS, THAT'S A
01:53:48 GREAT EXAMPLE OF INCORPORATING SEA LEVEL RISE, A
01:53:54 SOLUTION, IF YOU WILL, INTO A PROJECT.
01:53:57 SO WE WILL BE REHABILITATING -- I THINK THE NUMBER WAS
01:54:02 ABOUT 100 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF THOSE.
01:54:09 WE HAVE NOT RAISED THE CONTROL PANEL YET SO WE WILL OF
01:54:12 COURSE RAISE THEM, AND IN CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE
01:54:14 PROJECTIONS ARE FOR SEA LEVEL RISE.
01:54:18 BUT I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ANSWER BUT I WANTED TO GET THAT
01:54:22 TO YOU.
01:54:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
01:54:24 >>: I WAS GOING TO CHIME IN.
01:54:25 I RECALL WHEN HURRICANE SANDY HIT THE SOUTHERN END OF
01:54:29 MANHATTAN WITH THE SUBWAY SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T
01:54:32 NECESSARILY THE TRACKS AND THE TILE AND THAT SORT OF
01:54:35 THING, CONCRETE, WAS EASY TO REHAB, BUT IT WAS THE
01:54:39 ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS THAT JUST GOT TOTALLY MASSACRED.
01:54:43 WITH THE SALTWATER CORROSION TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY.
01:54:49 BUT I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE LOOKING AHEAD AND RAISING THOSE
01:54:52 REALLY EXPENSIVE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS ON OUR OWN
01:54:55 FACILITIES.
01:54:56 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, THANK YOU.
01:55:00 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING THAT I DID, I RECALL LIKE ALL OF
01:55:09 US WHO WERE IN OFFICE TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND
01:55:11 TRYING TO HELP POPULATIONS, I ALWAYS SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,
01:55:17 WORKING PEOPLE, LOW-INCOME FOLKS, CATEGORY ONES, CATEGORY
01:55:22 FOUR, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
01:55:25 IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT TRYING TO GET TOGETHER ALL
01:55:29 YOUR STAKEHOLDERS AND ACTIVISM IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:55:32 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TRIED TO DO IN PARTICULAR, MAKE
01:55:37 SURE THE GROUPS LIKE THE UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY, THE LOCAL
01:55:44 POLICE, ET CETERA, THAT THEY ARE ALL CONNECTED SO WHEN
01:55:47 SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THERE CAN BE A COORDINATED
01:55:49 CONCERTED EFFORT FOR FOLKS WITHOUT FAD, WITHOUT
01:55:53 ELECTRICITY, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MISS NUMEROUS DAYS OF
01:55:56 WORK, ET CETERA, SO JUST ISSUES LIKE THAT AS WELL.
01:55:59 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:56:00 AND COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
01:56:03 VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
01:56:04 THANK YOU, SIR.
01:56:05 WE NEXT MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 12.
01:56:17 GREGORY HART, MINORITY BUSINESS AND SMALL BUSINESS
01:56:21 MINORITY MANAGER.
01:56:22 I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TO FACILITATE YOUR
01:56:25 WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, IF THAT CAN BE QUEUED UP.
01:56:30 FANTASTIC.
01:56:31 THE POWER POINT
01:56:33 THAT I AM PROVIDING YOU AS FOUR FOCUS AREAS.
01:56:36 IT ADDRESSES RECENT PROGRAM HISTORY, SPECIFICALLY THE
01:56:39 EVOLUTION OF ENABLING LEGISLATION AND POLICY.
01:56:42 KIND OF GIVE YOU WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
01:56:45 SECONDLY, IT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE MECHANICS AND
01:56:48 LOGISTICS THAT UNDERPIN HOW THE PROGRAM IS IMPLEMENTED.
01:56:53 THIRD, IT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE FRAMEWORK TO DEVELOP
01:56:57 STRATEGIES FOR IMPROVING ACCESS AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
01:57:04 THE PROVIDE INCLUSION.
01:57:11 AND FINALLY, PERFORMANCE METRICS AND OUTCOMES.
01:57:16 SO INITIALLY, LET'S TALK ABOUT -- WELL, LET ME SHARE THE
01:57:20 ROOTS OF THE PROGRAM.
01:57:22 IT WAS FIRST LEGISLATED IN THE EARLY 90s ON THE
01:57:29 PREDICATE THAT THERE WERE PATTERNS OF DISCRIMINATION
01:57:32 AGAINST WMBEs REGARDING THEIR AVAILABILITY AND
01:57:36 INCLUSION AND CONTRACT ABILITIES.
01:57:38 HENCE, THE CITY DECLARED THAT THE INTEREST IN
01:57:41 IMPLEMENTING RACE AND GENDER CONSCIOUS POLICIES TO REMEDY
01:57:44 PAST DISCRIMINATION PROVIDE MINORITIES WITHIN IMPROVED
01:57:47 ACCESS TO PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
01:57:50 THE INITIAL LEGISLATION CONTAINED A SUNSET DATE OF 1997
01:57:56 UNLESS CITY FOUND THAT EFFORTS TO INCREASE MINORITY
01:57:59 PARTICIPATION HAD NOT BEEN ACHIEVED.
01:58:00 SO THE PROGRAM CONTINUOUSLY IN CUP BAITS AND EVOLVES IN
01:58:04 ORDER TO REMAIN RELEVANT BASED ON TAMPA'S MARKET AREA AND
01:58:08 BUSINESS DEMOGRAPHICS.
01:58:10 THE PROGRAM IS NOW ADMINISTERED UNDER THE CITY'S EQUAL
01:58:14 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ACT.
01:58:20 THE NEXT SLIDE.
01:58:22 I AM PROVIDING FOR YOUR REFERENCE SOME ACRONYMS AND KEY
01:58:25 TERMINOLOGY THAT YOU CAN REFER TO AT YOUR DISCRETION.
01:58:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WILL WE BE TESTED ON THIS?
01:58:32 >> NO, SIR.
01:58:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAKE US UP.
01:58:35 >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
01:58:37 NEXT SLIDE.
01:58:39 SO THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY MISSION AND STRATEGIC
01:58:49 PLAN, IDENTIFY ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES IN CITY
01:58:51 CONTRACTING, CREATE SUSTAINABLE INITIATIVES THAT ARE
01:58:54 RELEVANT TO TAMPA'S MARKET, WANT TO STRUCTURE COMPETITIVE
01:58:57 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES COMMENSURATE WITH THE AVAILABILITY
01:59:00 AND CAPACITY OF CERTIFIED FIRMS IN OUR MARKET.
01:59:04 WE WANT TO ESTABLISH SPECIFICATIONS TO ATTAIN SUPPLIER
01:59:07 DIVERSITY.
01:59:08 WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE UTILIZATION OF WMBE, SLBEs,
01:59:13 LGBTBEs IN CONTRACTS BY FACILITATING ACCESS TO ITB,
01:59:21 REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS, RFQ SOLICITATIONS.
01:59:25 WE WANT TO MEASURE THAT ACHIEVEMENT USING ACCEPTABLE BEST
01:59:30 PRACTICE AND REGULATORY STANDARDS AND OUGHT I HAD.
01:59:33 AND WE WANT TO REINFORCE CERTIFICATION AND OUTREACH TO
01:59:36 FOSTER ECONOMIC RESILIENCY.
01:59:39 NEXT SLIDE.
01:59:40 SO THE CURRENT CITY CODE OF ORDINANCE IS CHAPTER 26.5 AND
01:59:47 THE PURPOSE AND INTERNET OF CURRENT LEGISLATION IS TO
01:59:50 CODIFY A FRAMEWORK FOR ENACTING RACE AND GENDER-CONSCIOUS
01:59:55 INITIATIVES THAT MEET REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY U.S.
01:59:59 SUPREME COURT AND CONTROLLING CASE LAW FROM THE PROGENY
02:00:03 OF FEDERAL DISTRICT AND A PELL AT COURTS AND
02:00:06 INSTITUTIONALIZE A LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE SUSTAINABLE WMBE
02:00:10 PROGRAM THAT DEPOLITICIZES PROCUREMENT POLICIES.
02:00:14 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:00:15 THIS IS JUST A QUICK FUNCTIONAL ORGANIZATIONAL CHART,
02:00:21 DEPICTS THE STRUCTURE THAT WE CURRENTLY OPERATE UNDER TO
02:00:24 FULFILL OUR MISSION.
02:00:26 THE OPERATING DIVISION THAT YOU SEE THERE, PROGRAM METRIC
02:00:30 ANNAL IT'S TICKS, PROGRAM OUTREACH AND CERTIFICATION
02:00:35 SERVICES AND PROGRAM COMPLAINS AND MONITORING, THOSE ARE
02:00:38 INDEPENDENT.
02:00:39 EACH MUST BE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE TO MAXIMIZE THE
02:00:42 ACCESS TO OUR CONTRACT OPPORTUNITIES, TO ENSURE THAT
02:00:45 THERE'S INCLUSION, AND ALSO IMPORTANT, TO MONITOR FOR
02:00:50 COMPLIANCE.
02:00:52 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:00:54 SO A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND.
02:00:57 IN 2005, THE CITY COMMISSION STARTED A DISPARITY STUDY.
02:01:02 IN 2007 THAT DISPARITY STUDY WAS COMPLETED.
02:01:06 THE RESULTS OF THAT COMMISSION STUDY FOUND THAT THERE WAS
02:01:10 NO DISPARITY IN SUBCONTRACTING, NO UNDERUTILIZATION TO
02:01:15 SPEAK OF.
02:01:16 THERE WAS HOWEVER DISPARITY IN PRIME CONTRACTING.
02:01:19 THEREFORE THE CITY OF TAMPA DID NOT HAVE A LEGAL BASIS
02:01:22 FOR SETTING MANDATORY RACE AND GENDER SPECIFIC PROJECT
02:01:27 CONTRACT GOALS.
02:01:27 IN OTHER WORDS, THE STUDY SAID THERE WAS PARITY UNDER
02:01:32 EXISTING REGULATORY GUIDELINES.
02:01:34 TAMPA PRIMARY RECOMMENDATION DID EMPHASIZE THAT WE NEEDED
02:01:37 TO DEVELOP A DIVERSITY MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE, WHICH WAS
02:01:41 TO TRY TO COLLECT AND ANALYZE DATA THAT WOULD SUPPORT
02:01:46 CONTINUED EVOLUTION OF THE PROGRAM.
02:01:48 SO IN 2008, ORDINANCE 2008-89 WAS PROMULGATED TO COMPLY
02:01:56 WITH THIS MANDATE AND TO SET FORTH NEW INITIATIVES.
02:02:00 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:02:07 WHAT OCCURRED THAT WAS SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO ENDURE WAS
02:02:11 THAT THE WMBE PROGRAM WAS SUSPENDED FOR NEARLY FOUR
02:02:16 YEARS.
02:02:16 SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO SETTING PROJECT-SPECIFIC
02:02:20 GOALS THAT TARGETED MINORITY AND WHAT BECAME A FOCUS WAS
02:02:31 THE RACE AND GENDER NEUTRAL PROGRAM WHICH OPERATES UNDER
02:02:34 THE SLBE PROGRAM, THE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE
02:02:38 PROGRAM.
02:02:39 THAT BECAME OUR PRIMARY INITIATIVE.
02:02:41 THEREFORE, WHAT THIS ALL MEANT WAS THAT TO REINSTATE THE
02:02:45 WMBE INITIATIVES, THE CITY HAD TO MEET STRICT JUDICIAL
02:02:50 GUIDELINES THAT THE COURTS NOW APPLY TO MUNICIPAL
02:02:53 PROGRAMS.
02:02:54 NEW BUSINESS PROCESSES ENACTED TO ENSURE COMPREHENSIVE
02:02:57 DATA, COLLECTION AND REPORT METHODOLOGIES ALIGNED WITH
02:03:02 COURT RULINGS.
02:03:03 THAT'S THE POLICEMAN THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
02:03:07 SO WE BEGAN COMPILING MSBD DATA.
02:03:14 THAT PROCESS OF COLLECTING DATA AND DEVELOPING A BUSINESS
02:03:20 SYSTEM TO COLLECT IT, WE COMPLETED IT IN 2012.
02:03:25 WE COMPILED FOUR YEARS OF DMI DATA FOR THE MANDATORY
02:03:28 DISPARITY ANALYSIS.
02:03:31 DEVELOPMENT OF OUR BUSINESS SYSTEM TO COLLECT ALL OF THAT
02:03:33 INFORMATION TOOK TWO YEARS.
02:03:35 THE USE OF RACE AND GENDER CONTRACT GOALS ARE NOW BASED
02:03:39 ON MULTIYEAR STATISTICAL EVIDENCE.
02:03:41 AND THAT'S A MULTIYEAR MEANING AN AVERAGE OF FIVE YEARS.
02:03:45 AND NOW WE HAVE THE LEGAL STANDING TO CONTINUE OUR
02:03:47 PROGRAM.
02:03:48 WE WANT TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC RACE AND GENDER INITIATIVES.
02:03:54 AND IN 2013 THOSE NEW INITIATIVES WERE IMPLEMENTED, AND
02:04:01 NARROWLY TAILORED TO ADDRESS UNDERUTILIZATION OF
02:04:06 EFFECTIVE BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.
02:04:11 -- AFFECTED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.
02:04:14 THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF OHIO WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT.
02:04:17 THE MULTIPLE BUSINESS SYSTEMS THAT SERVE AS OUR SOURCE
02:04:22 DATA WOULD INCLUDE ORACLE, DEMAND STAR, WHICH IS OUR
02:04:25 ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT THE PURCHASING
02:04:27 DEPARTMENT MANAGES.
02:04:30 WE HAVE VERIFIED CONTRACT COMPLIANCE MOD Y'ALL.
02:04:34 WE HAVE OUR OWN BTG, SOUTHWEST SYSTEM.
02:04:40 MY POINT IS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESS SYSTEMS THAT
02:04:42 ARE IN THAT OVAL DATABASE SOURCE THAT WE EXTRACT
02:04:50 INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTS, PAYMENTS, BID
02:04:53 SOLICITATION, A WHOLE HOST AND VARIETY OF INFORMATION.
02:04:56 THAT INFORMATION IS FILTERED BY INDUSTRY CATEGORY IN
02:05:00 THOSE BARRELS IN THE CENTER OF THIS.
02:05:06 IN DOING SO WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE A DATA MAIN LOOKING AT
02:05:10 THE UTILIZATION OF ALL THE VARIOUS RACE AND ETHNIC GROUPS
02:05:15 WHO ARE IN BUSINESS AND CERTIFIED AS SUCH.
02:05:19 THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE GENERATE ABOUT 30-PLUS REPORTS.
02:05:23 THOSE REPORTS ARE ANALYZED TO MEASURE DISPARITY, AND THAT
02:05:27 INFORMATION, WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION AND YOURSELVES RELY
02:05:32 ON TO NORM ULTIMATE POLICY AND MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED
02:05:37 BUSINESSES.
02:05:38 VERY QUICKLY, THIS DEPICTS HOW WE CONTINUOUSLY DEPLOY
02:05:48 THIS PROCESS OF ANALYSIS AND DECIDE WHAT KIND OF
02:05:50 INITIATIVE WE ARE GOING TO OVERLAY VARIOUS SOLICITATIONS.
02:05:56 WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT FROM THE RACE AND GENDER
02:06:01 NEUTRAL PERSPECTIVE, WHO IS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY
02:06:04 CERTIFIED, AND LOOKING AT UNDER THE DATA MANAGEMENT
02:06:06 PROCESS WHAT TYPE OF CONTRACTS, DO THEY HAVE A CAPACITY
02:06:11 AND ABILITY TO PERFORM, WHICH OF THOSE CONTRACTS WERE
02:06:14 THEY ACTUALLY AWARDED, WHAT WERE THE EXPENDITURES?
02:06:18 THAT IS FILTERED THROUGH OUR DISPARITY ANALYSIS.
02:06:21 IF IN FACT THERE IS UTILIZATION AND NO DISPARITY, THEN
02:06:30 THE LOCAL BUSINESS PROGRAM BECOMES THE PRIMARY OPERATING
02:06:33 MECHANISM TO FACILITATE INCLUSION.
02:06:39 IF WE FIND THERE'S UNDERUTILIZATION BY ANY OF THOSE
02:06:42 GROUPS THEN WE TAKE IT THROUGH THE VERIFICATION OF THE
02:06:45 EVIDENCE WHICH THEN ESTABLISHES A LEGAL BASIS FOR US TO
02:06:48 SET RACE AND GENDER CONSCIOUS GOALS OR PROJECTS OF OTHER
02:06:52 INITIATIVES.
02:06:53 SO THAT'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE DO ON A REGULAR
02:06:56 BASIS.
02:06:57 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:06:58 SO WHO ARE OUR TARGET CONSTITUENTS?
02:07:02 CERTIFICATION ELIGIBILITY IS OPEN TO ALL INDEPENDENTLY
02:07:08 OWNED AND OPERATED SMALL BUSINESSES INCLUDING WOMEN AND
02:07:10 MINORITY-OWNED COMPANIES.
02:07:12 THE SLBE IS BASED ON SIZE, GROSS RECEIPTS AND LOCATION.
02:07:16 IT'S RACE NEUTRAL, GENDER NEUTRAL.
02:07:20 OUR MARKET AREA UNDER THE SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM ARE THE
02:07:24 FIVE CONFIGURE USE COUNTIES, HILLSBOROUGH, POLK,
02:07:28 PINELLAS, PASCO, MANATEE.
02:07:30 THE WMBE PROGRAM IS RACE AND GENDER FOCUSED, 51%
02:07:39 OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL BY THE MINORITY, AND REGARDLESS OF
02:07:44 TRADE SPECIALTY OR PROFESSION.
02:07:46 AND THAT'S STATE WIDE.
02:07:49 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:07:50 VERY QUICKLY, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF
02:07:54 CERTIFICATION BUSINESS DIRECTORY. THIS IS A VERY DYNAMIC
02:08:01 SLIDE HERE.
02:08:15 VERY QUICKLY, I DID SOME QUICK NUMBERS.
02:08:18 ABOUT 25% OF THIS DIRECTORY IS AFRICAN.
02:08:24 THAT 4 OR 5% IS ASIAN.
02:08:27 30% WOMEN AND BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, CAUCASIAN, FEMALES
02:08:31 SPECIFICALLY.
02:08:32 HISPANIC REPRESENTS ABOUT 24% OF THIS DATABASE OF
02:08:35 DIRECTORY.
02:08:37 AND NATIVE AMERICAN IS 1%.
02:08:39 NOW, LET'S LOOK AT SLBE CERTIFICATION.
02:08:44 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:08:45 ANOTHER DYNAMIC SLIDE.
02:08:51 CAUCASIANS REPRESENT ABOUT 51% OF THIS POOL, UNDER THE
02:08:58 SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM.
02:08:59 AFRICAN AMERICANS 24%.
02:09:00 HISPANICS ABOUT 21%.
02:09:05 ASIAN AMERICANS 3%.
02:09:06 NATIVE AMERICANS 1%.
02:09:10 AGAIN THIS IS THE SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE RACE AND
02:09:17 GENDER DATABASE.
02:09:18 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE ARE
02:09:21 JUST RUNNING THE BUSINESS PROGRAM, WE FOUND IT NECESSARY
02:09:25 TO DIRECT ALL OF OUR MINORITY-OWNED, WOMEN-OWNED
02:09:29 COMPANIES INTO A SMALL CERTIFICATION BUSINESS CATEGORY,
02:09:34 WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY PERHAPS DID NOT THINK ABOUT
02:09:37 BEFORE BECAUSE THE INITIATIVES WERE FOCUSED LEGALLY ON
02:09:41 THE SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM.
02:09:42 SO IF WE COULD GET THEM DULY CERTIFIED, IT INCREASED THE
02:09:47 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM, AND ALSO PARTICIPATION,
02:09:51 WHICH IN FACT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO
02:09:55 JUSTIFY SETTING RACE AND GENDER CONSCIOUS GOALS.
02:10:04 THESE ARE THE POLICY APPLICATIONS IN EFFECT.
02:10:10 ANY PROCUREMENT NEED, WE GET TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THAT
02:10:17 PROCUREMENT NEED AND DETERMINE WHAT INITIATIVE IS MOST
02:10:20 APPROPRIATE TO BE OVERLAID ON THAT SOLICITATION TO
02:10:24 INCREASE PARTICIPATION AND IDENTIFY THE ECONOMIC
02:10:29 OPPORTUNITIES.
02:10:29 SO WE HAVE SHELTERED MARKET.
02:10:32 WE HAVE BID DISCOUNT.
02:10:35 WE HAVE CONTRACT GOAL SETTING.
02:10:37 WE HAVE EVALUATION POINTS THAT WE WILL AWARD TO
02:10:43 PROPOSERS, PRIME CONTRACTORS THAT ARE CERTIFIED OR SOME
02:10:50 SUBCONSULTANTS WHO ARE CERTIFIED IN THE RFP PROCESS.
02:10:53 WE HAVE RECENTLY INCREASED IT FROM ONE TO 10 POINTS TO
02:10:59 ONE TO 20 POINTS.
02:11:01 SO WE ARE INCENTIVIZING OUR CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS TO
02:11:06 PUT FORTH THE EXTRA EFFORT TO SEEK INCLUSION ON OUR
02:11:16 PROPOSAL, DESIGN, BUILD, AND ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF
02:11:18 CONTRACTS.
02:11:22 THE MAYOR IS ALSO ROLLING OUT TEN POINTS FOR WORKFORCE
02:11:27 DEVELOPMENT.
02:11:29 SO THOSE BIDDERS, AND THOSE PROPOSERS WHO SEEK THE CITY
02:11:33 CONTRACT, WE ARE WANTING TO SEE TO WHAT EXTENT THEY ARE
02:11:38 CONDUCTING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, CURRENTLY
02:11:42 INVOLVED IN RELATIONSHIPS TO HELP INFUSE AND BOLSTER THE
02:11:46 WORKFORCE AVAILABLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
02:11:50 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:11:53 SO WHAT ARE OUR DEVELOPMENT TOOLS TO IMPROVE ECONOMIC
02:12:00 OPPORTUNITIES?
02:12:00 WE HAVE BID DISCOUNTS AS I MENTIONED FOR A SMALL LOCAL
02:12:03 BUSINESS, IT'S 5% NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.
02:12:09 UNDER WMBE 5% NOT TO EXCEED $20,000.
02:12:13 AND THAT IS FOR EVALUATION PURSUANCE ONLY.
02:12:15 IT'S NOT AS IF -- THAT 5% IS AWARDED OR WE SUBTRACT 5% OF
02:12:25 THE BID THAT THEY SUBMITTED.
02:12:27 IT'S FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES ONLY.
02:12:29 THE RFP FOCUS POINTS, WAIVERS UP TO 200 THAT YOU, AND
02:12:35 WAIVERS DEPENDING ON THE RISKS ASSESSED OF JOINT VENTURE
02:12:39 BUSINESS ARRANGEMENTS.
02:12:41 WE HAVE PROMPT PAYMENT FOR CERTIFIED FIRMS.
02:12:44 THAT PAYMENT FROM THE CITY IS WITHIN TEN DAYS. IF YOU
02:12:47 ARE A SUBCONTRACTOR, WE DO REQUIRE THAT PRIME TO PAY THAT
02:12:52 CERTIFIED SUB WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF THEIR PAYMENT FROM THE
02:12:56 CITY OF TAMPA.
02:12:57 WE HAVE RETAINAGE REDUCTION AT THE PRIME LEVEL.
02:13:04 5 TO 10%.
02:13:05 AND WE HAVE PAYMENT VERIFICATION AND COMPLIANCE.
02:13:08 IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
02:13:12 IF SOMEONE IS MONITORING THAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID,
02:13:15 OKAY, AND THAT WE ARE HOLDING CONTRACTORS COMPLIANT.
02:13:22 THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO SHOW THE FLOW THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
02:13:30 THIS CHART ILLUSTRATES THE TYPICAL FISCAL YEAR FUNDING OF
02:13:33 THE CITY'S CAPITAL AND OPERATING PROGRAMS.
02:13:38 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AS IS TYPICAL, LOOKING AT ABOUT
02:13:42 A BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.
02:13:45 AND THIS IS HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.
02:13:46 NEXT SLIDE.
02:13:49 THIS CHART ILLUSTRATES THE COMPETITIVE CONTRACTS SPEND
02:13:55 THAT FALLS OUT OF THAT ONE BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.
02:13:59 THE WMBE AND SLBE PROGRAM OPERATES SOLELY ON COMPETITIVE
02:14:06 SPEND.
02:14:07 THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE AWARDED THE COMPETITIVE
02:14:10 SOLICITATIONS DOES NOT INCLUDE PROCUREMENTS THAT OCCUR
02:14:15 UNDER STATE CONTRACT, EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, PIGGYBACK
02:14:20 CONTRACTS.
02:14:22 THOSE CONTRACTS ARE AWARDED BY ANOTHER ENTITY.
02:14:24 ALTHOUGH THEY SOMETIMES HAVE INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENTS ON
02:14:27 THEM.
02:14:27 SO IN THAT ILLUSTRATION I PRESENTED OF ABOUT A BILLION
02:14:32 DOLLAR CITY OPERATING CAPITAL BUDGET, ABOUT 19% OF THOSE
02:14:39 DOLLARS ACTUALLY UTILIZE COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT.
02:14:43 THAT'S WHAT WE GET A SHOT AT.
02:14:44 SO IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE IT WAS 188 MILLION OUT OF A
02:14:49 BILLION DOLLARS.
02:14:51 AND IN THAT INSTANCE, THE WMBE PROGRAM NETTED ABOUT 17
02:14:55 MILLION OR 9%, 10%, AND SLBE PROGRAM 12% OR 22 MILLION.
02:15:02 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:15:06 THIS IS SIMPLY REFLECTING OUR PROGRAM GOALS, AND IT'S A
02:15:09 PERCENTAGE OF GOALS BASED ON AN ANALYSIS OF PROCUREMENT
02:15:13 OF ALL FIVE INDUSTRY CATEGORIES, AND THE COMPANIES THAT
02:15:16 ARE CERTIFIED AS WMBE, SLBE.
02:15:20 SO THIS IS AN AVERAGE OF ALL THOSE CATEGORIES.
02:15:23 SO THE WMBE OVERALL GOAL IS 14%.
02:15:28 THE SBLE PROGRAM ANNUAL GOAL IS 15% FOR SUBCONTRACTS,
02:15:37 FOR -- EXCUSE ME.
02:15:39 THE WMBE SUBCONTRACT ANNUAL GOAL IS 15%.
02:15:44 SLBE SUBCONTRACT ANNUAL OVERALL GOAL IS 150%.
02:15:49 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:15:51 THIS IS A RENDERING, A REPRESENTATION OF OUR
02:15:55 RESPONSIBILITY TO TRACK AND MONITOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE
02:16:02 INCLUSIONARY ADJUSTED AND COMMITMENTS THAT ARE MADE BY
02:16:05 THE CONTRACTOR.
02:16:11 THE BOX IN RED IS WHERE WE HAVE INITIAL COMPLIANCE INPUT.
02:16:17 AND THE WHITE OR CLEAR BOXES WILL CONTINUALLY INVOLVE IN
02:16:23 SUCH AS THE CONTRACT PAYMENTS AND THE AUDITS.
02:16:25 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:16:27 THIS IS OUR COMPLIANCE PROCESS.
02:16:33 ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT
02:16:36 THERE IS MONITORING THAT DOES OCCUR ON A DAILY BASIS.
02:16:41 WE FUNCTION AS A QUASI-REGULATORY INDEPENDENT AUDIT
02:16:46 FUNCTION FOR THE CITY AS RELATES TO CONTRACTS.
02:16:49 SO WHEN THERE'S A PAYMENT MADE BY THE CITY TO A
02:16:53 CONTRACTOR, THE ORACLE OR FINANCIAL SYSTEM, WE DO HAVE
02:16:57 SOME AUTOMATED SUPPORT.
02:16:59 AND THIS REFLECTS THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM REPORT.
02:17:03 IT NOTIFIES US THAT IT'S OCCURRED.
02:17:05 IT NOTIFIES US THE PRIME CONTRACTOR WHEN IT'S OCCURRED.
02:17:07 AND WE ARE TELLING THE SUBCONTRACTOR THAT WE KNOW THAT
02:17:10 THE CITY HAS PAID YOU AND WE ARE ASKING THE SUBCONTRACTOR
02:17:14 TO LET US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE BEEN PAID.
02:17:16 IF THEY HAVEN'T, THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO ALERT EVERYBODY
02:17:19 AND IT COMES TO A HALT.
02:17:23 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:17:26 LET'S REVIEW SOME OF THE PROGRAM METRICS AND TRENDS TO
02:17:32 DATE.
02:17:32 NEXT SLIDE.
02:17:33 THESE METRICS REFLECT THE PRIME CONTRACT PARTICIPATION
02:17:37 OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
02:17:41 WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS TREND, IF YOU RECALL WHAT I
02:17:43 SAID IN THE VERY BEGINNING, IN 2013, WE HAVE A BASIS FOR
02:17:51 ACTIVATING OUR RACE CONSCIOUS AND GENDER CONSCIOUS
02:17:54 INITIATIVES, IN A NARROWLY TAILORED FASHION, SO WE ARE
02:17:58 LOOKING AT WHAT OCCURRED SINCE THAT TIME.
02:18:04 TAKING THE MOST RECENT REPORT HERE, FOR YEAR 18, YOU CAN
02:18:09 SEE THAT WE HAVE 8%, 9% PARTICIPATION, IN WMBE AWARDS.
02:18:19 NOW THERE'S SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING HERE.
02:18:26 WHEN YOU COMPARE 15 AND 16, FISCAL YEAR 17, AND FY 18,
02:18:32 YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A FLUCTUATION IN THE NUMBERS.
02:18:37 AND WHAT IS OCCURRING WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THE
02:18:42 ANALYSIS IS THAT RIGHT NOW THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PERHAPS
02:18:45 IN ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOST VIBRANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
02:18:50 AND GROWTH CYCLES IN ITS HISTORY.
02:18:55 AND IT'S PUTTING SOME CONSTRAINTS PARTICULARLY THE UNIT
02:19:04 CAPITAL, THE VENDOR CAPITAL, THAT'S IN OUR COMMUNITY TO
02:19:07 RESPOND TO THE NEEDS THAT NOT ONLY WE HAVE BUT THE REST
02:19:10 OF THE COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE SECTOR.
02:19:14 THEY ARE ALL COMPETING AGGRESSIVELY FOR THE SAME
02:19:17 CONTRACTORS, THE SAME SUBCONTRACTORS, THE SAME SUPPLIERS.
02:19:23 AND THAT REFLECTS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN
02:19:28 ACHIEVING PARTICIPATION WHERE WE HAVE ECONOMIC
02:19:33 OPPORTUNITY.
02:19:33 NOT EVERY CONTRACT, NOT EVERY PROCUREMENT THAT WE ENGAGE
02:19:38 IN IS GOING TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY
02:19:43 BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY.
02:19:44 BUT WHEN IT DOES THAT, WHAT WE DO IS WE WORK WITH OUR
02:19:46 PARTNERS, WE COLLABORATE WITH MOFFITT, WITH TAMPA GENERAL
02:19:50 HOSPITAL, WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS, AND RESOURCE
02:19:56 OUR DATABASE AND REFER OR PROVIDE THAT DATABASE TO OUR
02:20:02 PARTNERS WHO MAY HAVE CONTRACTS AND OFTEN DO THAT ALIGN
02:20:07 WITH THE SERVICES AND PRODUCTS THAT OUR CERTIFIED
02:20:09 COMPANIES PROVIDE, THAT WE CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ON A
02:20:13 REGULAR BASIS.
02:20:14 SO IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND IT'S COMMUNITY WIDE.
02:20:19 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:20:25 THIS IS A BREAK DOWN OF THE PRIME CONTRACT PARTICIPATION
02:20:28 BY ETHNICITY AND GENDER.
02:20:37 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:20:37 >> WAIT.
02:20:44 THAT WAS TOO FAST.
02:20:46 >> CAN WE REVERSE AND GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE?
02:20:54 THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, IN FY 17 YOU
02:21:01 WILL SEE BUSINESSES REPRESENTED ABOUT 31% OF THE DOLLARS
02:21:07 THAT FLOWED WITHIN THE POOL OF DOLLARS THAT WERE
02:21:11 AVAILABLE FOR CERTIFIED FUNDS, AND FY 18, BLACK
02:21:17 BUSINESSES REPRESENTED 13%.
02:21:22 IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON, AGAIN, TO SOME DEGREE IT
02:21:27 REFLECTS THE CHALLENGE IN THE WORKFORCE TO NET THE
02:21:37 COMPANIES THAT HAVE SERVICES AND PRODUCTS ALIGNED WITH
02:21:39 WHAT WE VALUE.
02:21:44 NEXT SLIDE.
02:21:49 SUBCONTRACT GOAL SET.
02:21:50 THIS IS GOAL ATTAINMENT.
02:21:53 WHAT I WANT TO ILLUSTRATE HERE IS THAT THE CONTRACTS THAT
02:22:02 ARE SCOPED AND HAVE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY THAT ALIGNS, WE
02:22:08 BREAK THOSE CONTRACTS AND THOSE PROJECTS DOWN TO IDENTIFY
02:22:11 WHAT THOSE TASKS ARE.
02:22:13 BASED ON THOSE TASKS, BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF OUR
02:22:16 FUNDS, WE ARE GOING TO SET A GOAL FOR PARTICIPATION.
02:22:20 SO WHEN WE SET 15% GOAL AS AN EXAMPLE, AND ACHIEVE 15%
02:22:27 GOAL, IT'S 100% GOAL, THIS IS A REFLECTION OF HOW WE
02:22:32 EVALUATE A PROJECT'S OPPORTUNITY, AND WE SET A GOAL ON
02:22:36 IT.
02:22:37 THESE ARE AVERAGES.
02:22:38 SO THIS FISCAL YEAR 18, THE AVERAGE GOAL SET WAS ABOUT
02:22:47 14%, 13.8%.
02:22:49 THE AVERAGE GOAL ATTAINMENT WAS 12% RESULTING IN AN 85%
02:22:56 GOAL SET, GOAL ATTAINED.
02:22:57 THE PREVIOUS YEAR WE WERE 102% ATTAINMENT OF THOSE.
02:23:02 I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD METRIC ON THE EXTENT TO WHICH
02:23:07 WE ARE ANALYZING WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE, FOR
02:23:13 INCLUSION, AND THEN PUTTING FORTH THE MANDATE TO OUTREACH
02:23:18 AND PARTICIPATION BASED ON A NUMERICAL PERCENT, AND THAT
02:23:23 EVALUATION OF THE ATTAINMENT IS BASED ON THE GOOD-FAITH
02:23:26 EFFORT.
02:23:26 IT'S NOT A QUOTE.
02:23:29 NEXT SLIDE.
02:23:31 THIS IS A BREAK DOWN OF HOW THOSE DOLLARS WERE
02:23:36 DISTRIBUTED BASED ON THE RACE, ETHNICITY AND GENDER.
02:23:42 AS YOU CAN SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN FY 18,
02:23:47 OF THE POOL OF DOLLARS THAT WENT TO SUBCONTRACTORS, 72%
02:23:52 OF THOSE DOLLARS WENT TO BLACK BUSINESSES.
02:23:56 THIS WAS NOT A COINCIDENCE.
02:23:58 THIS IS INTENTIONAL.
02:24:02 IT IS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE THERE WAS AN EMPIRICAL
02:24:05 DATABASED UNDERUTILIZATION WHICH ALLOWED US TO PUT OUR
02:24:15 FOOT ON THE PEDAL A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO ACCELERATE THE
02:24:20 EXTENT TO THE WHICH WE OUTREACH AND SET GOALS,
02:24:22 SPECIFICALLY TO IDENTIFY BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
02:24:26 AND THAT'S WHAT THE DISPARITY ANALYSIS, THAT'S WHAT THE
02:24:34 CERTIFICATION ALLOWED US TO DO.
02:24:37 HISPANIC BUSINESSES REPRESENTED 23%.
02:24:40 4% FOR WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES.
02:24:43 AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
02:24:44 AGAIN, WHAT DRIVES THAT PARTICIPATION IS WHETHER OR NOT
02:24:50 WE HAVE THE TYPE OF NEEDS THAT THESE BUSINESSES CAN
02:24:54 PROVIDE TO THE CITY.
02:24:55 AND THOSE BUSINESSES MUST HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND THEY
02:25:00 MUST HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE NEEDS.
02:25:02 NEXT SLIDE.
02:25:07 SO MARKET.
02:25:08 THIS IS THE INITIATIVE.
02:25:09 IT'S PRIMARILY DESIGNED TO ATTACK UNDERUTILIZATION OF THE
02:25:14 PRIME CONTRACT LEVEL.
02:25:15 THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO SHELTER PROCUREMENTS THAT
02:25:18 HAVE A VALUE OF $300,000 OR LESS.
02:25:21 THE TERMINOLOGY USED IS SET ASIDE. THIS IS NOTE QUITE A
02:25:25 SET-ASIDE BECAUSE IT'S A COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
02:25:29 WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF THREE CERTIFIED QUOTES THAT
02:25:32 ARE LICENSED AND HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RESPOND TO THE
02:25:35 PROCUREMENT.
02:25:36 SO THEY GET TO COMPETE WITHIN THEIR PEER GROUP.
02:25:44 AND THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL METHOD AND
02:25:46 INITIATIVE TO ADDRESS PARTICIPATION AT THE PRIME CONTRACT
02:25:50 LEVEL.
02:25:51 NEXT SLIDE.
02:25:54 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:25:55 NEXT, PLEASE.
02:25:59 THERE WE GO.
02:26:01 THIS REPRESENTS HOW THE SHELTERED MARKET DOLLARS BREAK
02:26:04 OUT, AND WERE DISTRIBUTED BASED UPON THE TYPE OF
02:26:09 CERTIFICATION.
02:26:12 HERE AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A REFLECTION OF WHERE OUR
02:26:15 EMPHASIS HAS BEEN THE PAST YEAR, 2018.
02:26:19 48% OF THOSE DOLLARS WENT TO BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES
02:26:22 BECAUSE WE HAD A STATISTICAL MANDATE TO TRY AND PUT MOORE
02:26:25 EMPHASIS AND IDENTIFY MORE BUSINESSES THAT COULD RESPOND
02:26:28 TO THE SHELTERED MARKET INITIATIVES.
02:26:31 THE PREVIOUS YEAR, HISPANIC-OWNED BUSINESSES WERE 44% OF
02:26:36 THOSE SHELTERED MARKET DOLLARS.
02:26:37 AND WE DIG DEEP IN LOOKING INTO SOME OF THE DYNAMICS AS
02:26:42 TO WHY THOSE OUTCOMES HAVE OCCURRED IN THAT PARTICULAR
02:26:46 YEAR.
02:26:48 THERE WERE A LOT MORE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE TYPE OF
02:26:51 CONTRACTS THAT WERE AWARDED.
02:26:54 WE DO HAVE A VERY ROBUST DIRECTORY OF COMPANIES THAT DO
02:26:59 LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE THAT ARE HISPANIC OWNED AND OUR
02:27:05 CONTRACTS RUN THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
02:27:07 SO IT'S KIND OF CYCLICAL.
02:27:10 SOMETIMES THESE THINGS COME AROUND.
02:27:11 BUT FOR EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
02:27:14 NEXT SLIDE.
02:27:16 QUOTE.
02:27:26 THIS IS HOW WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN PUSHING INFORMAL
02:27:30 CONTRACTS OR PROCUREMENTS INTO OUR CERTIFIED BUSINESS
02:27:33 COMMUNITY.
02:27:35 WE INCREASED CONTRACTS AWARDED TO WMBE BY 6.7% OVER THE
02:27:40 LAST 2018 FISCAL YEAR.
02:27:45 THESE ARE AWARDS THAT DO NOT NECESSARILY GET INTO THE
02:27:50 PAPER.
02:27:51 THEY DON'T COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
02:27:53 THESE ARE 2,000, 3,000, $800 PROCUREMENTS THAT
02:28:00 OFTENTIMES, IF NOT ALWAYS INITIATED AT THE DEPARTMENT
02:28:06 LEVEL.
02:28:06 WE HAVE POLICIES, PROCEDURES IN PLACE WHEREBY THE FIRST
02:28:09 OUTREACH SHOULD BE A FIRM THAT IS CERTIFIED THAT CAN
02:28:14 PROVIDE THAT COMMODITY OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY ARE
02:28:16 LOOKING FOR.
02:28:17 AND IF NOT, THEN THEY ARE ASKED TO AT LEAST REACH OUT TO
02:28:21 THREE FIRMS, ONE OF THOSE THREE BEING A CERTIFIED
02:28:25 COMPANY.
02:28:26 SO IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL.
02:28:28 NEXT SLIDE.
02:28:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREG.
02:28:31 MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:28:31 ON THAT SLIDE, I DON'T KNOW IF I SEE A TOTAL OF ALL
02:28:39 AWARDS UNDER QUOTE WIRE.
02:28:44 QUOTE WIRE OF $25 MILLION DEAL OR $10 MILLION DEAL FOR
02:28:48 THE WHOLE CITY?
02:28:51 >>GREGORY HART: I SEE.
02:28:53 I CAN GET BACK AND GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER.
02:28:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BALLPARK FIGURE?
02:29:00 >>GREGORY HART: I WOULD SAY BALLPARK PROBABLY LOOKING AT
02:29:04 PROBABLY UNDER ABOUT -- WHAT IS THAT CATEGORY?
02:29:12 I WOULD SAY ABOUT 2 MILLION.
02:29:15 POSSIBLY.
02:29:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
02:29:18 I AM NOT COMMUNICATING PROPERLY.
02:29:21 THAT 2½ MILLION ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER IS THE TOTAL
02:29:26 OF THE MINORITY VENDORS.
02:29:28 >>GREGORY HART: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
02:29:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M WONDERING WHAT IS THE TOTAL FOR
02:29:31 QUOTE WIRE CONTRACTS IN THE CITY PER YEAR?
02:29:36 >>GREGORY HART: IT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND.
02:29:38 SEVERAL -- MILLION DOLLARS.
02:29:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 7 MILLION?
02:29:47 >> IT'S 2.5 MILLION SO WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 10, 15
02:29:51 MILLION.
02:29:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:29:54 >>GREGORY HART: BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM.
02:29:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 25%
02:29:58 OF THE QUOTE WIRE?
02:30:00 >>GREGORY HART: 10, 15, 20%, YES, SIR.
02:30:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:30:06 >>GREGORY HART: NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:30:08 THESE ARE PROCUREMENTS THAT OCCUR THROUGH DEMAND STAR.
02:30:11 ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION, PROCUREMENTS THAT ARE $500,000
02:30:11 OR LESS, THE FLOOR BEING 25,000.
02:30:19 THE REASON THAT THIS RANGE IS EMPHASIZED IS BECAUSE OUR
02:30:24 DISPARITY STUDY AND ANALYSIS REVEALED THAT OUR CERTIFIED
02:30:30 FIRMS, FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROSECUTE
02:30:33 WORKING CONTRACTS THAT ARE UNDER $500,000 WITH SOME EASE.
02:30:38 NOT TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD AND DO HAVE CERTIFIED
02:30:43 WMBEs AND SLBEs THAT HAVE HAD A MILLION DOLLAR, TWO
02:30:48 MILLION DOLLARS CONTRACTS.
02:30:49 BUT THIS IS WHERE THE PREDOMINANT ACTIVITY AND AWARD
02:30:52 OCCURS, 500,000 AND UNDER.
02:30:54 THIS PARTICULAR DEMAND STAR ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION,
02:30:58 $12 MILLION HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND AWARDED TO OUR
02:31:05 CERTIFIED FIRMS.
02:31:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
02:31:11 WHEN I LOOK AT THESE ACRONYMS, AND I LOOK AT THESE DOLLAR
02:31:16 FIGURES, WHEN WE SAY BLACK, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BLACK
02:31:20 MALES, BLACK FEMALES, OR DO WE GO TO THE W -- IS THAT
02:31:27 JUST WOMEN IN GENERAL?
02:31:29 WHEN I LOOK AT WMBE AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, THE
02:31:33 NUMBERS ARE HIGH.
02:31:33 ARE THOSE WHITE CAUCASIAN WOMEN OR JUST WOMEN IN GENERAL?
02:31:38 HOW IS THAT CATEGORIZED?
02:31:46 >> GOOD QUESTION.
02:31:46 WBE IS SOLELY A REFLECTION OF CAUCASIAN FEMALES ONLY.
02:31:47 ETHNIC FEMALES ARE GOING TO BE ROLLED UP UNDER THAT
02:31:53 RACIAL CATEGORY.
02:31:54 AND THAT IS A LEGAL GUIDELINE FOR OUR TYPE OF PROGRAM.
02:32:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASK THAT QUESTION.
02:32:02 WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, THAT STILL TELLS ME WE'RE
02:32:05 STILL FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS WHEN I LOOK AT THAT.
02:32:08 I LOOK AT -- YOU KEEP SAYING THE WORD GOOD-FAITH EFFORT,
02:32:12 WHAT I SEE FROM THIS PROCESS, I LOOK AT THE RFP AND WHEN
02:32:29 I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE AND I SEE HOW SOME OF THESE
02:32:32 RFP ARE WRITTEN, IT SEEMED LIKE IT'S SPECIFICALLY DRIVEN
02:32:36 AT A CERTAIN ANGLE.
02:32:38 IT BOTHERS ME AT TIMES THAT THE PROCESS HAS GONE THAT WAY
02:32:44 AND COUNCIL IS OUT OF LOOP IN THAT PROCESS UNTIL THE END
02:32:49 WHEN IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING.
02:32:53 I THINK MAYBE THAT'S THE GAP THAT'S HURTING SOME OF THE
02:32:56 PROCESS.
02:32:58 I THINK MAYBE COUNCILMEN NEED TO LOOK AT THE RFP PROCESS
02:33:02 TO HOW WE CAN BE MORE BENEFICIAL OR INSTRUMENTAL IN THE
02:33:06 PROCESS FROM THE ONSET VERSUS THE END GAME.
02:33:10 MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME INCREASES ON SOME OF THESE
02:33:13 NUMBERS.
02:33:14 I'VE BEEN STRONGLY LOOKING AT THAT AND HAVING A COUPLE OF
02:33:17 MY INTERNS LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE THAT BOTHERS ME WHEN I
02:33:20 SEE THESE NUMBERS AND THEY DON'T JIBE OR MIX.
02:33:25 THAT TELLS ME IT IS A CRACK THAT PEOPLE FALL INTO.
02:33:30 WE WANT TO FILL THOSE GAPS.
02:33:32 I'M LOOKING TO -- PROCUREMENT TO FILL THE GAPS BECAUSE I
02:33:37 BELIEVE THE RFP IS THE PROBLEM.
02:33:42 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.
02:33:43 NEXT SLIDE.
02:33:55 THIS IS VERY INTERESTING TO MY STAFF, TO THE
02:34:00 ADMINISTRATION.
02:34:02 YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE
02:34:06 CITY OF TAMPA PROCURES VERSUS WHAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
02:34:11 PROCURES, VERSUS WHAT ANY OF OUR OTHER GOVERNING BODIES
02:34:15 OR PRIVATE SECTOR AGENCIES PROCURE IS GOING TO DETERMINE
02:34:21 TO A LARGE EXTENT WHAT TYPE OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES
02:34:26 THAT WE CAN EMPHASIZE AND RECRUIT CERTIFIED FIRMS TO
02:34:32 ENGAGE US IN.
02:34:36 THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT ENGAGE IN VERY MANY VERTICAL
02:34:44 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WHERE A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR
02:34:47 CERTIFIED FIRMS RESIDE IN TERMS OF DISCIPLINE OR INDUSTRY
02:34:53 CATEGORY.
02:34:54 WE'RE NOT DOING THE BRICK AND MORTAR.
02:34:59 YES, WE DO COMMUNITY CENTERS.
02:34:59 YES, WE DO FIRE STATIONS.
02:35:01 BUT THE TRADES THAT ARE TYPICAL, SUCH AS MASONS, DRYWALL,
02:35:06 PAINTERS, ALL OF THOSE, WE TRY TO FIND THE WORK THROUGH
02:35:12 OUR PARTNERS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF THAT.
02:35:15 LOOK AT THIS.
02:35:16 50% OF WHAT WE PROCURE IS IN THE CATEGORY OF GOODS.
02:35:21 50%.
02:35:23 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREET SWEEPERS, ASPHALT, CONCRETE.
02:35:32 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHLORINE.
02:35:34 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER TREATMENT PLANT CHEMICALS.
02:35:38 WE SPEND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON WE'RE TALK
02:35:43 ABOUT EQUIPMENT, FIRE TRUCKS, POLICE VEHICLES.
02:35:49 THE CITY BUYS A LOT OF SUPPLIES AND COMMODITIES.
02:35:53 AND THERE NEEDS TO BE -- AND THIS IS COMMUNITYWIDE --
02:35:56 MORE TRAINING, DEVELOPMENT OF OUR FIRMS AND IDENTIFYING
02:36:04 THOSE DISCIPLINES THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS DEFICIENT IN TO
02:36:08 SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR
02:36:11 ENTITIES.
02:36:12 AND THE MARKETPLACE IS GETTING CONSTRAINED.
02:36:20 I SEE A RESURGENCE IN THE ATTENTION GIVEN TO THE
02:36:20 VOCATIONAL TRADES AND THE TECHNICAL TRADES, WHICH IS
02:36:25 WHERE THE PLUMBERS, THE WELDERS -- THERE WAS AN EFFORT BY
02:36:30 THE PORT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THEY CONTACTED MY
02:36:32 OFFICE.
02:36:33 THEY WERE LOOKING FOR YOUNG FOLKS WHO THEY COULD STEER
02:36:36 TOWARDS UNDERWATER WELDING.
02:36:39 THOSE YOUNG FOLKS, 20 YEARS OLD, 21, THEY FINISHED THAT
02:36:44 EDUCATION, TRAINING PROCESS.
02:36:47 THEY CAN EARN SIX FIGURES IN SOME OF THESE TRADES THAT
02:36:50 PEOPLE HAVE OVERLOOKED FOR SO MANY YEARS.
02:36:54 I GUESS THE POINT HERE I WANT TO MAKE IS THE CITY OF
02:36:56 TAMPA DOES HEAVY PROCUREMENT IN THE AREA OF GOODS.
02:37:02 IT'S NOT CONSTRUCTION.
02:37:03 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:37:12 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW LONG IS THIS WORKSHOP GOING FOR?
02:37:15 THIS PARTICULAR WORKSHOP?
02:37:16 WE USUALLY LIMIT WORKSHOPS TO 30.
02:37:22 HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF YOUR
02:37:24 PRESENTATION?
02:37:26 >> CONNECTING THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE.
02:37:30 I KNOW COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS QUESTIONS.
02:37:35 KEEP MIND OF THAT.
02:37:36 IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE BUT WE HAVE THREE MORE WORKSHOPS
02:37:39 AFTER THIS.
02:37:40 JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
02:37:42 THANK YOU, SIR.
02:37:43 >> I'M DONE, SIR.
02:37:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:37:46 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:37:48 GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:37:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:37:50 GREG, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION
02:37:53 I'VE SEEN ON THIS TOPIC IN ALL MY YEARS OF SITTING UP
02:37:59 HERE.
02:38:00 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
02:38:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE IT.
02:38:02 BECAUSE YOU REALLY SPELLED IT OUT AND IT DOES TAKE SOME
02:38:04 TIME BUT YOU SPELLED IT OUT IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS
02:38:10 PROGRAMS WE HAVE.
02:38:11 EVEN THOUGH WE SAT DOWN FACE TO FACE AND TALKED ABOUT
02:38:14 THESE ISSUES, I NEVER GOT THE FULL GRASP.
02:38:17 I APPRECIATE IT AND I HOPE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING, THAT
02:38:20 WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT, BUT IN MY OPINION, AS YOU KNOW, I
02:38:25 THINK WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO.
02:38:27 LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
02:38:38 WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT SLIDES UP THERE IN TERMS OF THE
02:38:41 ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE'VE MADE IN WMBE.
02:38:44 THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE MADE IN SLB, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS
02:38:47 WE'VE MADE IN SHELTER.
02:38:49 THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT BREAKOUTS.
02:38:52 I'M WONDERING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL -- OUT OF THE
02:38:58 $188 MILLION THAT'S ACCESSIBLE, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF
02:39:05 WHAT PERCENTAGE OR WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT THE BLACK -- THE
02:39:10 BBE, THE BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISES OVER THE LAST YEAR OR
02:39:16 TWO, AND I'M GLAD WE HAD A BOOST LAST YEAR.
02:39:20 THAT WAS GOOD.
02:39:21 BUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT THAT TOTAL IS OUT
02:39:26 OF THE 188 MILLION.
02:39:28 BECAUSE I SAW THREE DIFFERENT SLIDES.
02:39:30 THEY ARE GOING BY FAST.
02:39:32 I WASN'T ABLE TO WRITE DOWN EACH OF THE NUMBERS AND
02:39:35 DIVIDE IT INTO THE 188, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF
02:39:38 THAT?
02:39:39 >> GREGORY HART: I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND TO BE EXACT DO
02:39:44 CALCULATIONS BASED ON THE SLIDES I GAVE YOU TODAY.
02:39:47 I'LL GIVE YOU A GENERAL SENSE.
02:39:49 OF THE 188 MILLION, MAYBE ABOUT 40 MILLION OF THAT IS
02:39:54 CONDUCIVE FOR PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE
02:40:00 CHEMICALS.
02:40:00 IT'S NOT THE EQUIPMENT.
02:40:02 IT'S REAL PROCUREMENT.
02:40:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE 188 IS NOT ACCESSIBLE EITHER
02:40:06 TOTAL.
02:40:06 >>GREGORY HART: TOTAL, NO, SIR.
02:40:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOW WE'RE DOWN TO WHAT?
02:40:11 >>GREGORY HART: ABOUT 40 MILLION.
02:40:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
02:40:14 OUT OF THE 40 MILLION, WHAT PERCENTAGE OR WHAT NUMBER
02:40:18 WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH BBE, WITH BLACK OWNED
02:40:23 BUSINESSES.
02:40:25 >>GREGORY HART: AGAIN, I'LL GIVE YOU A BALLPARK
02:40:27 GUESSTIMATE, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 7 AND 10 PERCENT.
02:40:31 THAT WOULD BE PRIME AND SUBCONTRACT PARTICIPATION.
02:40:37 THAT WOULD BE THE SHELTER MARKET.
02:40:38 THAT WOULD BE PRIME CONTRACT AND SUBCONTRACT
02:40:42 PARTICIPATION.
02:40:42 THE GOAL SETTING THROUGH THE SHELTER MARKET, THROUGH THE
02:40:46 RFP/RFQ PROCESSES.
02:40:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEBODY UP HERE MENTIONED THAT A NEW
02:40:51 STUDY HAD BEEN BUDGETED.
02:40:53 I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS BILL OR ORLANDO MENTIONED
02:40:56 ABOUT A NEW STUDY IS IN OUR BUDGET.
02:41:02 IS THAT ACCURATE?
02:41:04 >>GREGORY HART: WHAT WAS BEING REFERRED TO, I RECOMMENDED
02:41:07 THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE ANTICIPATE PERHAPS
02:41:13 ENGAGING IN OUR FOURTH DISPARITY STUDY.
02:41:15 THE SUGGESTED TIME FRAME UPON WHICH ONE WOULD WANT TO DO
02:41:15 THAT IS FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
02:41:27 WE ARE AT THE FIVE- OR TEN-YEAR MILESTONE.
02:41:29 ONE THING ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE'RE OFTEN CALLED
02:41:32 UPON TO SHARE IS THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSITY MANAGEMENT
02:41:37 SYSTEM, DMI.
02:41:39 SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO DISPARITY ANALYSIS ON A FAIRLY
02:41:44 REGULAR BASIS.
02:41:45 IS IT A STUDY?
02:41:46 NO.
02:41:46 WE'RE AT THE JUNCTURE WHERE WE MAY WANT TO HAVE A
02:41:50 CONSULTANT COME IN AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND
02:41:53 REAFFIRM THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
02:41:59 LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE A RACE CONSCIOUS PROGRAM.
02:42:01 WE BUDGETED SOMEWHERE AROUND 200, 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS,
02:42:06 SHOULD WE EMBARK UPON THAT DURING FISCAL YEAR 2020.
02:42:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHO MAKES THAT DECISION OF WHETHER OR
02:42:11 NOT WE SHOULD DO THAT?
02:42:14 >>GREGORY HART: THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION.
02:42:15 THAT'S THE MAYOR WITH STAKEHOLDER DEPARTMENTS,
02:42:21 PURCHASING, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND PERHAPS A NUMBER
02:42:24 OF OTHERS.
02:42:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU AND I --
02:42:27 >>GREGORY HART: IT'S CALLED A CHECKUP.
02:42:29 LIKE GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND GETTING CHECKED UP.
02:42:32 YOU LOOK WELL.
02:42:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG
02:42:34 TIME.
02:42:35 I KNOW YOU WON'T TAKE THIS WRONG.
02:42:39 THERE WAS A DROP, AND YOU SAID, WELL, WE'RE HAVING
02:42:43 TROUBLE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH ACTIVITY IN THE PRIVATE
02:42:47 SECTOR THAT WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE PULLING IN THE MINORITY
02:42:50 VENDORS INTO THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
02:42:52 I THINK THAT WAS BASICALLY THE RATIONALE BEHIND SOME OF
02:42:56 THE DIPS.
02:42:57 >>GREGORY HART: WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THERE ARE
02:43:01 CHALLENGES IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR.
02:43:04 WE ALONG WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, ALONG WITH THE
02:43:07 AIRPORT, ALONG WITH TECO, ALONG WITH WATER STREET, WE'RE
02:43:10 ALL COMPETING FOR THE SAME WORKFORCE, THE SAME VENDORS,
02:43:14 THE SAME SUBCONTRACTORS.
02:43:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
02:43:18 >>GREGORY HART: IT'S A CONTRACTORS' MARKET.
02:43:21 THEY CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO WORK WITH.
02:43:24 AND THE CAPACITY IS NOT THERE TO SERVE US ALL.
02:43:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY RESPONSE WOULD BE SOMEBODY
02:43:31 HAS RESPONDED TO THE BIDS AND THE WORK GETS DONE.
02:43:34 I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY IT WOULDN'T BE THE MINORITY
02:43:39 COMMUNITY RESPONDING.
02:43:41 >>GREGORY HART: MR. DINGFELDER, ONE OF THE VARIABLES, AND
02:43:44 THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES, SO MANY CONDITIONS, BUT ONE
02:43:47 OF THEM IN THIS REGARD IS WAS THE CITY MEANING IN TERMS
02:43:54 OF SERVICE OF PRODUCTS?
02:43:56 DOES EVERYBODY ENGAGE IN UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK?
02:43:58 IT'S MORE THAN HAVING A SHOVEL AND A TRUCK.
02:44:01 A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES I MENTIONED EARLIER ARE NOT IN
02:44:06 THAT SPACE.
02:44:07 THEY ARE THE PAINTERS.
02:44:08 THEY ARE THE PLUMBERS.
02:44:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SET ME UP FOR I THINK IT'S MY
02:44:14 FINAL COMMENT.
02:44:15 I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE WHEN THIS COUNCIL PASSED PIPES, AND
02:44:18 IF I WAS HERE TWO, THREE YEARS AGO WHEN THEY PASSED
02:44:20 STORMWATER FOR $250 MILLION OR PIPES FOR $3 BILLION, IS
02:44:24 WE NEED TO BE USING SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THOSE
02:44:30 FUNDS, $3.25 BILLION TOTAL, A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
02:44:36 NEEDS TO BE SET ASIDE FOR CAPACITY BUILDING, FOR CAPACITY
02:44:40 BUILDING.
02:44:41 I'VE GOT A FEELING THAT THEREABOUT A WHOLE LOT IN YOUR
02:44:45 BUDGET, NO OFFENSE TO YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T MAKE YOUR
02:44:47 BUDGET.
02:44:48 THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT IN YOUR BUDGET FOR CAPACITY
02:44:51 BUILDING.
02:44:51 YOU KIND OF MENTIONED IT AT THE BEGINNING IN TERMS OF
02:44:54 OUTREACH AND THAT SORT OF THING.
02:44:56 BUT I'M TALKING OUT OF $3.25 BILLION, THAT EVERY YEAR
02:45:01 OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING AT LEAST A
02:45:04 MILLION DOLLARS ON CAPACITY BUILDING.
02:45:06 I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF HOW THAT
02:45:09 WORKS.
02:45:10 IT'S NOT MY JOB TO DO THAT.
02:45:12 BUT I'M GOING TO STRESS THIS TO THE ADMINISTRATION, TO
02:45:15 THE MAYOR, TO CHIEF OF STAFF AND TO YOU GUYS THAT BEFORE
02:45:19 YOU ALL COME IN HERE -- NOT YOU -- BUT BEFORE BRAD BAIRD
02:45:24 COMES IN HERE WITH A $10 MILLION PROJECT FOR THIS VENDOR
02:45:27 AND $20 MILLION PROJECT FOR THIS PIPES VENDOR, THAT THIS
02:45:32 COUNCILMAN REALLY WANTS TO SEE THAT PROGRAM IN PLACE.
02:45:36 AND WITH THE LAST SLIDE UP, I THINK IT'S A START.
02:45:43 BRIDGES TO BUILD VENDORS CERTIFICATION TOUR, I THINK
02:45:47 THAT'S A NICE START.
02:45:48 BUT TO ME, THAT'S JUST KNOCKING ON THE DOOR.
02:45:52 I SAY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT DOOR AND WE HAVE TO SIT
02:45:56 DOWN WITH THAT COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO NURTURE.
02:46:03 WE NEED TO NURTURE.
02:46:04 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN OVERNIGHT THING.
02:46:06 IT MIGHT TAKE US A COUPLE OF YEARS.
02:46:09 THAT'S OKAY.
02:46:09 THE $3 BILLION PIPES PROGRAM IS A 20-YEAR PROGRAM.
02:46:13 IF IT TAKES A FEW YEARS TO GET THOSE UNDERGROUND
02:46:16 ENGINEERS INVOLVED AND COMMITTED, IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF
02:46:25 EVERYBODY.
02:46:26 THAT'S MY SOAPBOX.
02:46:28 >>GREGORY HART: WHAT MAY HAVE GOTTEN LOST EARLIER IN SOME
02:46:31 OF MY COMMENTS, MAYOR CASTOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE
02:46:34 TAKEN SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN THAT DIRECTION.
02:46:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT TEN.
02:46:39 TEN WHAT?
02:46:40 >>GREGORY HART: MAYOR CASTOR IS WANTING TO PUT THE ONUS
02:46:44 OR AT LEAST SHARE IT WITH AND PUT IT ON THE SHOULDERS OF
02:46:48 THESE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING AFTER THE
02:46:51 PIPES PROJECTS.
02:46:54 SHE'S IMPOSING A 10% POINTS SPECIFICALLY FOR MENTORING,
02:47:04 INTERNSHIPS, APPRENTICESHIPS, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
02:47:07 WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
02:47:08 AND THAT IS THE INTENT OF APPLYING TEN POINTS OUT OF A
02:47:15 HUNDRED SPECIFICALLY FOR, YOU'RE GOING TO BID ON THE
02:47:17 PIPES PROJECT, WE WANT TO KNOW TANGIBLY, WHAT ARE YOU
02:47:21 DOING OR WHAT YOU GOING TO DO THAT'S TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN
02:47:27 EVALUATE, GRADE YOU ON AND MONITOR YOU ON TO HELP WITH
02:47:32 THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, TO HELP WITH THE TRAINING AND
02:47:32 THE APPRENTICESHIP.
02:47:33 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME STOP YOU THERE.
02:47:35 LET ME MOVE ON TO -- I KNOW COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WAS
02:47:38 FINISHED WITH HIS QUESTIONS.
02:47:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I JUST RESPOND TO THAT ONE THING?
02:47:43 THANK YOU.
02:47:44 I THINK THAT'S A NICE APPROACH, BUT I THINK IT DELEGATES
02:47:48 THAT RESPONSIBILITY AGAIN TO THE PRIMES.
02:47:54 I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE OUR OWN
02:47:59 HANDS-ON.
02:48:00 THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY THE COMMUNITY HAS AGREED TO BE --
02:48:06 I WON'T SAY TAXED, TO BE FEED OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
02:48:11 I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE OUR HANDS ON
02:48:15 THAT, ON THOSE PROGRAMS TO DO IT OURSELVES.
02:48:19 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:48:20 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'VE GOT NOBODY WATCHING THE HENHOUSE,
02:48:25 MR. DINGFELDER.
02:48:26 THAT'S WHY.
02:48:27 NOBODY IS WATCHING THE MONEY.
02:48:29 PERIOD.
02:48:29 YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS.
02:48:33 YOU LOOK AT THE -- BUSINESS.
02:48:36 THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING MS. SHAMBURGER WOULD BE HERE
02:48:39 TODAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:48:42 WE HAVE TO STOP DOING THINGS IN THE PAST AND DOING THINGS
02:48:45 FOR THE FUTURE.
02:48:47 WE HAVE A SCHOOL SYSTEM.
02:48:48 AND WE SHOULD BE COLLABORATING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SO
02:48:51 THEY CAN KNOW WHAT JOBS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY
02:48:55 WORKFORCE SO THEY CAN BE APPLYING THAT TO THE NEXT
02:48:59 GENERATION OF ADULTS TO BE ABLE TO COME OVER HERE AND GET
02:49:02 A JOB.
02:49:02 ENTREPRENEURSHIP PROGRAMS, INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS, FOR THOSE
02:49:06 YOUNG JUNIORS AND SENIORS.
02:49:11 BRING US BUSINESS PROGRAM, THAT'S GREAT.
02:49:13 THAT AIN'T TOUCHING THE SURFACE.
02:49:15 CAN YOU TELL ME THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SUCCESSFULLY
02:49:17 COMPLETED THAT PROGRAM SINCE IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED?
02:49:20 THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
02:49:23 THAT'S MY POINT.
02:49:24 WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FINISH LINE.
02:49:29 AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE
02:49:31 ACCOUNTABILITY -- A FINISH LINE.
02:49:34 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE ROADBLOCKS.
02:49:37 YOU SAY THESE CONTRACTS, BUT NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN THEY
02:49:41 DON'T WANT TO HIRE CERTAIN PEOPLE.
02:49:43 SAY WE DON'T HIRE CERTAIN PEOPLE.
02:49:46 THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
02:49:47 IF WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE -- IN NEED OF A WORKFORCE, HELL,
02:49:53 WE'RE NOT EMPLOYING ANYBODY IN THE WORKFORCE, WELL, WHAT
02:49:56 ARE WE DOING?
02:49:58 ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE GETTING THE WORK.
02:50:00 SO WHEN YOU PUT OUT AN RFP, ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE WILL GET
02:50:03 THE WORK.
02:50:04 I DON'T CARE HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
02:50:07 WE GET IT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S TOO LATE, MAKE
02:50:11 CHANGES, THIS AND THAT.
02:50:12 I THINK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFOREHAND.
02:50:15 WE'RE SAYING 15% AND I READ AN RFP, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR
02:50:19 NO GOOD FAITH.
02:50:20 I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY ON THAT CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE GOING
02:50:22 TO GIVE ME 15% AND HOW WILL YOU GIVE ME THAT 15%?
02:50:27 WHEN I LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, LIKE THE CITY OF ORLANDO,
02:50:30 ORANGE COUNTY, THEIR NUMBERS ARE OFF THE CHART.
02:50:33 OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT
02:50:36 DOING.
02:50:37 WE'VE GOT TO GO TO OTHER PLACES TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE
02:50:40 DOING.
02:50:41 I WENT ON A TRIP TO CHICAGO, I SAW SEVERAL THINGS THAT I
02:50:45 HOPE WE CAN DO THAT I LEARNED FROM OTHER CITIES THAT WERE
02:50:48 AT THE CONFERENCE.
02:50:49 I'M JUST SAYING WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING THIS KIND OF MONEY
02:50:52 OUT THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AN OFFICER WATCHING THE
02:50:55 MONEY AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE CONTRACTORS, THESE
02:50:57 PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND
02:51:01 HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE OR WE PULL THOSE CONTRACTS.
02:51:03 BUT WE DON'T DO THAT.
02:51:05 WE GIVE OUT PEOPLE MONEY AND HOPE IN GOOD FAITH THEY ARE
02:51:08 DOING THE JOB.
02:51:09 HOPE THIS HAPPEN OR THEY COME BACK, WELL, WE TRIED.
02:51:12 WHO'S GOING OUT THERE CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY
02:51:14 GOT 8% ON THE JOB SITE OR WE HAD SOME APPLICANTS BUT
02:51:20 COULDN'T OBTAIN THAT GOAL.
02:51:23 CAN'T DO BUSINESS AS USUAL.
02:51:25 I CAN TELL YOU WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY, THE PIPES
02:51:28 PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS, I'LL BE
02:51:30 HARD-PRESSED ON THE CONTRACTS COMING UP BECAUSE THERE'S
02:51:32 NO WAY I CAN SEE GOING FORWARD AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY
02:51:36 IS GETTING A PIECE OF THE PIE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS HUNGRY
02:51:39 AND WE'RE NOT REALLY FEEDING THE PEOPLE WE SHOULD BE
02:51:42 FEEDING.
02:51:42 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:51:44 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A STATEMENT AND A QUESTION.
02:51:47 I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK, LOTS AND LOTS OF FEEDBACK
02:51:50 FROM COMMUNITY LEADERS ABOUT THIS AND REQUESTS AND
02:51:53 DEMANDS THAT WE CHANGE THIS.
02:51:55 THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
02:52:00 ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS I'VE GOTTEN IS ABOUT THE PURCHASING
02:52:03 DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL, THE PROCESS IS THE LACK OF
02:52:07 OUTREACH.
02:52:08 YOU'RE SHOWING A LOT OF OUTREACH, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING
02:52:10 THAT.
02:52:10 ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS IS DEMAND STAR.
02:52:12 DEMAND STAR IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO
02:52:15 KNOW HOW TO USE IT AND GET ACCESS TO IT.
02:52:18 IT'S A FORM BUT WE HAVE TOO MANY CONTRACTS, MINORITY AND
02:52:21 OTHERWISE WHERE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH BIDDERS ON THEM.
02:52:25 HOW CAN WE HAVE 650,000 SIGNAGE CONTRACTS WITH ONE BID?
02:52:29 IT DRIVES ME CRAZY.
02:52:30 I KNOW THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF ARE LOOKING AT THIS
02:52:33 CAREFULLY.
02:52:34 I APPRECIATE ALL THEIR HELP IN DOING THAT.
02:52:36 THE QUESTION IS, WE'RE CITY COUNCIL.
02:52:39 YOU REPORT TO THE MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION.
02:52:41 WHAT IS IT WE CAN DO -- WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL.
02:52:43 I THINK YOU LEGITIMATELY WANT TO HIT THESE GOALS.
02:52:46 WHAT IS IT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU?
02:52:48 WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU HIT THESE GOALS?
02:52:51 >>GREGORY HART: FOR ONE THING, I BELIEVE COUNCIL CAN BE,
02:52:54 AS MR. GUDES HAS EXPRESSED ELOQUENTLY, BE AN ADVOCATE.
02:53:00 BE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELP TO EDUCATE THE
02:53:03 COMMUNITY ON HOW TO ACCESS CITY OPPORTUNITIES.
02:53:07 WHAT'S OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF EDUCATIONAL
02:53:10 AND TRAINING RESOURCES THAT CAN INCREASE THEIR ECONOMIC
02:53:15 POSITION.
02:53:16 I MENTIONED HOW WE TALK TO HCC AND WORK WITH USF, WE WORK
02:53:23 WITH THE ENTREPRENEUR COLLABORATIVE CENTER.
02:53:25 THOSE ARE THE RESOURCE AGENCIES THAT HAVE TRAINED
02:53:29 PROFESSIONALS THAT DO BUSINESS PLANNING AND TECHNICAL
02:53:32 ASSISTANCE AND FINANCIAL PLANNING FOR BUSINESSES.
02:53:35 AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS HELP COMMUNICATE
02:53:42 HOW OUR BUSINESSES CAN GROW.
02:53:44 IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:53:47 IT'S THE METRO AREA.
02:53:50 WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING COLLECTIVELY TO OFFER AND ALSO
02:53:53 MONITOR WHAT WE'RE DOING, AS YOU'RE DOING TODAY.
02:53:55 IT'S THOSE INTANGIBLE THINGS.
02:53:58 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:54:00 PLEASE LET EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A GROUP KNOW
02:54:02 WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU.
02:54:04 I WANT TO BE WHATEVER KIND OF ADVOCATE I CAN BE.
02:54:06 I'M HAPPY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE BRIDGES TO BUSINESS
02:54:09 THAT YOU WANT ME TO POST ON MY SOCIAL CHANNELS OR
02:54:12 WHATEVER PRESENT, HAPPY TO DO THAT.
02:54:14 I MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY LEADERS DEMANDING CHANGE, THEY
02:54:16 ARE GOING SO FAR AS TO SAY THEY ARE DEMANDING THAT I --
02:54:20 MAYBE THEY TALKED TO MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THIS -- THEY ARE
02:54:22 DEMANDING THAT WE STOP ACCEPTING -- STOP APPROVING
02:54:25 CONTRACTS THAT DON'T HIT THE MINORITY CRITERIA.
02:54:29 THAT'S COMING.
02:54:30 WE'VE GOT TO REALLY TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THE
02:54:33 DRUMBEAT IS GETTING LOUDER AND LOUDER TO REJECT CONTRACTS
02:54:36 THAT DON'T HIT -- THANK YOU.
02:54:42 >>GREGORY HART: WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING ON A REGULAR BASIS
02:54:44 WHEN IT DOES OCCUR ARE THE CONTRACTS WE REJECT AND
02:54:47 DECLARE AS NONRESPONSIVE TO OUR MBE/SLB PROGRAM.
02:54:52 WE REJECTED CONTRACTS THAT HAD VALUE OF 30, 35 MILLION.
02:54:55 WE GO THROUGH A PROTEST AND APPEALS PROCESS AND WE DO OUR
02:54:58 DUE DILIGENCE AND OUR AUDITS AND KNOCK ON WOOD, THE
02:55:02 QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESS WITH THE MAGISTRATE OR HEARING
02:55:06 OFFICER MORE OFTEN THAN NOT SIDED WITH THE CITY'S
02:55:09 POSITION IN DECLARING THE CONTRACTORS NOT IN COMPLIANCE
02:55:12 WITH OUR PROGRAM, NOT WILLING TO INCLUDE.
02:55:15 IT'S NOT PERFECT, SIR.
02:55:17 YOU DON'T SEE THOSE.
02:55:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:55:21 I WANT TO SAY JUST IN CLOSING THIS, I GUESS WHENEVER
02:55:25 THESE CONTRACTS DO COME UP, MAYBE HAVE THAT INFORMATION
02:55:29 FOR US TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND AND WHATNOT.
02:55:32 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT AND JUST
02:55:36 OBVIOUSLY FROM THE SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED HERE WHENEVER
02:55:39 CONTRACTS DO COME UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COUNCIL
02:55:41 APPROVE OR REJECT THEM, JUST TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE THAT
02:55:45 INFORMATION READY, KIND OF LIKE IF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
02:55:48 AND MYSELF WERE ATTORNEYS, WE GO TO A HEARING, WE HAVE
02:55:51 EVERYTHING READY FOR EVERY POSSIBLE ROUTE THAT THE
02:55:55 HEARING MAY TAKE.
02:55:56 JUST FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH.
02:55:58 WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION AND
02:56:03 YOUR HARD WORK.
02:56:04 IT'S APPRECIATED.
02:56:05 >>GREGORY HART: YOU'RE WELCOME.
02:56:06 I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND SUPPORT.
02:56:08 I REALLY DO.
02:56:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:56:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR WORK.
02:56:11 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 13.
02:56:17 >>CATHERINE COYLE: CATHERINE COYLE, PLANNING DESIGN AND
02:56:19 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:56:20 FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK OPPORTUNITY TO
02:56:24 INTRODUCE TOWANDA ANTHONY.
02:56:27 SHE'S BEEN WITH US A LITTLE OVER 13 YEARS.
02:56:29 SHE WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO URBAN PLANNER 3 POSITION,
02:56:32 THE HIGHEST STAFF PLANNER POSITION WE HAVE IN OUR GROUP.
02:56:35 I'M INTRODUCING YOU TO HER, THIS IS YOUR FIRST GLANCE
02:56:38 BECAUSE IN THE NEXT CYCLE SHE'S GOING TO START PROCESSING
02:56:41 THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS AND START HELPING ME
02:56:44 WORK THROUGH THESE PROCESSES.
02:56:46 THAT'S ONE OF HER MAJOR ASSIGNMENTS.
02:56:48 YOU'LL START SEEING MORE OF HER.
02:56:51 TOWANDA ANTHONY.
02:56:53 HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL, WONDERFUL PERSON.
02:56:59 MUCH DESERVED THAT PROMOTION.
02:57:01 THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED, THERE ARE TWO
02:57:06 PACKETS, THIS ONE IS THE ONE INITIATED CLEAR CHANNEL WITH
02:57:09 TODD PRESSMAN AS THE AGENT.
02:57:11 MR. PRESSMAN IS HERE ALONG WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM
02:57:14 CLEAR CHANNEL.
02:57:14 THIS AMENDMENT DEALS WITH ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS IN OUR
02:57:18 REGULATIONS.
02:57:19 OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULATIONS, THERE ARE TWO SETTLEMENT
02:57:22 AGREEMENTS WITH TWO OF THE LARGEST BILLBOARD COMPANIES
02:57:24 THAT OWN THE MAJORITY OF THE BILLBOARDS IN TAMPA.
02:57:27 THOSE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS DEAL WITH STATIC SIGNS.
02:57:31 THERE ARE TRADE-OFF REQUIREMENTS, LOCATIONAL
02:57:34 REQUIREMENTS, REPLACEMENT, REHABILITATION, RECONSTRUCTION
02:57:37 REQUIREMENTS.
02:57:37 THE CODE ITSELF DEALS WITH CONVERSION OF THE TWO LED OR
02:57:41 ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS.
02:57:42 THESE PROVISIONS BEFORE YOU AS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
02:57:46 AMENDMENT, CLEAR CHANNEL, REPRESENTED BY MR. PRESSMAN IS
02:57:49 PROPOSING TO AMEND GEOGRAPHICAL LIMITATIONS, SO EXPANDING
02:57:56 THE CORRIDOR OF HILLSBOROUGH FROM VETERANS TO DALE MABRY
02:58:01 IS WHAT THE CURRENT CODE SAYS.
02:58:02 ON THAT CORRIDOR, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY TRADE OFF A
02:58:05 CERTAIN NUMBER OF SIGNS AS STATED IN REGULATION AND PLACE
02:58:08 AN ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD WITHIN THAT SEGMENT.
02:58:12 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
02:58:13 I HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU FOR ONE SECOND.
02:58:15 NEVER ENTERED MY MIND.
02:58:16 WAS ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM -- THAT WAS
02:58:22 MY FAULT.
02:58:22 ON ITEM NUMBER 12?
02:58:24 I JUST HAVE TO ASK THAT.
02:58:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:58:30 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THEY ARE REQUESTING TO EXPAND THAT
02:58:32 FROM -- THE LIMIT FROM DALE MABRY TO NEBRASKA ALONG
02:58:35 HILLSBOROUGH AND THEN ADDING DALE MABRY, THE SEGMENT FROM
02:58:38 HILLSBOROUGH TO KENNEDY, AND THEN GANDY TO MACDILL AIR
02:58:40 FORCE BASE AND THEN ALONG GANDY FROM DALE MABRY TO
02:58:43 WESTSHORE.
02:58:44 THE DOCUMENT ITSELF IS EIGHT PAGES LONG BECAUSE IT IS THE
02:58:49 ENTIRE CODE SECTION.
02:58:50 IF YOU ACTUALLY JUST GO TO PAGE 5, THERE ARE ONLY TWO
02:58:53 PORTIONS THAT ARE BEING AMENDED.
02:58:55 ON PAGE 5 OF THE DOCUMENT IN PARAGRAPH FOUR, THEY ARE
02:58:58 ALSO REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL
02:59:03 AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE THEY CAN TRADE OFF TO CREATE -- SORRY,
02:59:07 NOT TO TRADE OFF -- BUT TO CREATE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS.
02:59:11 THE CURRENT REGULATION, IT IS A MAXIMUM OF 5% OF THAT
02:59:14 SINGLE OWNER BILLBOARDS.
02:59:16 5% OF THE INVENTORY CAN BE CONVERTED.
02:59:18 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THAT TO 10%.
02:59:21 NO MORE THAN 10 ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD SIGNS CAN FACE FAP
02:59:25 AND FAI DESIGNATED ROADWAYS.
02:59:28 THEY ARE ASKING TO CHANGE THAT TO 16.
02:59:31 ADDITIONALLY, ON THE NON-FAP, FAI DESIGNATED ROADWAYS
02:59:36 LOOKING TO CHANGE FROM 5 TO 10 PERCENT AND FROM 4 TO 6
02:59:39 FACES ON THOSE ROADWAYS.
02:59:42 THOSE ARE THE TWO SETS OF CHANGES.
02:59:44 THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT, SO THIS WILL
02:59:47 MOVE FORWARD IN THE CYCLE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
02:59:49 WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING A STAFF PUBLIC INFORMATION
02:59:54 MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC TENTATIVELY NOVEMBER 4th.
02:59:57 THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE DECEMBER 9.
02:59:59 AND THEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING WILL HAPPEN IN
03:00:02 DECEMBER AND THEN BEGINNING OF JANUARY.
03:00:03 MR. PRESSMAN IS HERE TO EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT AND ANSWER
03:00:07 ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
03:00:09 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. PRESSMAN.
03:00:10 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. COYLE FROM COUNCIL?
03:00:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:00:15 >> TODD PRESSMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
03:00:26 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:00:26 TODD PRESSMAN.
03:00:27 I'M HERE TODAY WITH TOM O'NEILL WITH CLEAR CHANNEL
03:00:32 OUTDOOR.
03:00:33 WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
03:00:34 WE'RE SEEKING TO REQUEST A BIT OF AN EXPANSION OF WHAT
03:00:37 HAS BEEN A GREAT AND VERY SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC, PRIVATE AND
03:00:41 SMALL BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP, OF WHICH 13 DIGITAL
03:00:45 BILLBOARDS HAVE BEEN PUT UP IN THE CITY.
03:00:47 ONCE THOSE BILLBOARDS ARE PUT UP, THERE ARE MANY
03:00:50 MULTIPLES OF PAPER BILLBOARDS THAT HAVE TO COME DOWN.
03:00:54 THIS HAS REMOVED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET OF
03:01:00 PAPER BILLBOARDS IN THE CITY.
03:01:02 IT'S BOOSTED FOR THE FIRST TIME ENTRY OF MANY SMALL
03:01:05 BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO USE THESE TYPE OF ADVERTISING
03:01:10 AND IT HAS PROVIDED SCORES AND SCORES OF PUBLIC, CITY
03:01:13 EVENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ADVERTISING, WHICH THE COMPANY
03:01:16 DOES FREE OF CHARGE.
03:01:17 WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE REQUEST TODAY WOULD BE
03:01:23 INITIALLY THREE TO FIVE ADDITIONAL DIGITAL BILLBOARDS,
03:01:27 POTENTIALLY UP TO EIGHT FOR CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR.
03:01:30 THAT WOULD THEN RESULT IN MANY SQUARE FEET OF PAPER,
03:01:36 EXISTING STRUCTURES AND PAPER BOARDS COMING DOWN.
03:01:38 IT WOULD ADD FOUR MAJOR ARTERIALS IN THE CITY TO ALLOW.
03:01:43 ON TOP OF THAT, THERE IS LAYER AFTER LAYER OF LAYER OF
03:01:47 RULES, REGULATIONS, DISTANCE MEASUREMENTS THAT REQUIRE
03:01:53 SUBSTANTIAL DISTANCES FROM RESIDENTIALS FOR PLACEMENT.
03:01:56 SO FINDING LOCATIONS IS VERY DIFFICULT.
03:01:59 ALL OF THOSE REGULATION RULES WILL BE IN PLACE.
03:02:02 HERE'S THE CRITICAL ASPECT, COUNCILMEN, THIS HAS BEEN A
03:02:08 PROJECT IN THE WORKS SINCE 2005.
03:02:10 WE HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A SINGLE COMPLAINT TO CLEAR
03:02:14 CHANNEL OUTDOOR OR TO THE CITY ON THIS PROGRAM AS IT'S
03:02:18 MOVED THROUGH THE CITY.
03:02:20 I THINK THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING RECORD AND ONE THAT
03:02:24 DESERVES TO BE EXPANDED TO A DEGREE.
03:02:26 TO DATE, THEY CONVERTED 13 FACES.
03:02:29 IN REGARD TO THAT, THEY REMOVED 53 SEPARATE BILLBOARD
03:02:34 STRUCTURES IN THE CITY, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO 96 FACES
03:02:38 AND 32,500 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING BILLBOARD FACES THAT
03:02:46 HAVE COME DOWN.
03:02:46 I THINK WHAT'S VERY UNIQUE, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE
03:02:50 OVERHEAD, PLEASE, TO MAKE YOU AWARE, THAT CLEAR CHANNEL
03:02:54 OUTDOOR IS INVOLVED WITH THE TAMPA POLICE, ALL THE LOCAL
03:02:58 POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS, FEDERAL
03:03:01 MARSHAL, FBI IS INVOLVED WITH PUBLIC EMERGENCIES AND
03:03:04 SMALL BUSINESSES.
03:03:05 THIS IS JUST A VERY SMALL EXAMPLE OF THE PARTNERSHIP WITH
03:03:07 THE CITY.
03:03:08 YOU CAN SEE -- THEY CONVERTED EVERY BILLBOARD FROM HERE
03:03:16 TO ORLANDO IN SEEKING THAT SUSPECT.
03:03:19 THEY WERE INVOLVED WITH FEDERAL MARSHAL, THE SHERIFF'S
03:03:23 OFFICE, FBI.
03:03:26 YOU MIGHT NOTICE IN THIS PICTURE FROM 2001 THAT THEY WERE
03:03:30 SELECTED AS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT BUSINESS PARTNER OF
03:03:32 THE YEAR FOR THE WORK THEY DID.
03:03:34 THAT IS THE FORMER CHIEF OF POLICE THERE, NOW MAYOR.
03:03:38 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE COMMUNITY WORK THEY DO.
03:03:43 THIS IS JUST A SMALL PIECE OF IT.
03:03:45 THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SPECIFICALLY THE CITY OF TAMPA
03:03:48 PARTNERSHIP INVOLVING THEIR PROGRAMS, INCLUDING SHARE THE
03:03:52 ROAD, DOWNTOWN TAMPA, THE POLICE AGAIN, LEADERSHIP
03:03:56 CONFERENCES.
03:03:59 AGAIN, SOME COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND THEN JUST A SMALL
03:04:03 EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES NOT ONLY
03:04:06 ADVERTISED FOR A DAY OR TWO ON SPECIALS THAT ARE COMING
03:04:09 THROUGH.
03:04:09 IN REGARD TO HAVING THE TEST OF TIME FOR AN OUTSTANDING
03:04:14 PROGRAM, THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, HAS EXPANDED THROUGHOUT THE
03:04:17 BAY AREA AND VERY SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE COME FORWARD ASKING
03:04:20 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO MOVE FORWARD AN EXPANSION OF
03:04:24 THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL DIGITAL BILLBOARDS.
03:04:29 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
03:04:31 TOM IS HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
03:04:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:04:35 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:04:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER IT WELL.
03:04:38 >>TODD PRESSMAN: OH, YES.
03:04:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IT WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE.
03:04:41 IT WAS LENGTHY LITIGATION THAT WENT ON AND ON.
03:04:45 WE GOT OUT OF THE LITIGATION WITH THE COMPROMISE, AND I
03:04:48 THINK IT'S BEEN GOOD.
03:04:50 I THINK THE SWAP-OUT, LIKE YOU SAY, OF PAPER SIGNS FOR
03:04:54 SOME DIGITALS IS OKAY.
03:04:56 I THINK EVEN LINDA SAUL-SENA IS PROBABLY HAPPY WITH IT.
03:05:02 A COUPLE OF THINGS.
03:05:04 NUMBER ONE, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY MENTION OF, QUOTE, THE
03:05:07 OTHER COMPANY.
03:05:08 LET ME THROW A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AT YOU AND THEN YOU
03:05:12 CAN ANSWER THEM ALL, TODD.
03:05:14 SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
03:05:15 NUMBER TWO IS ON THE LOCATIONS -- I DON'T HAVE ANY
03:05:18 PROBLEM WITH THE QUANTITIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE MENTIONED
03:05:20 ON PAGE 5 OR 6 THERE, BUT ON THE LOCATIONS, I WAS PRETTY
03:05:24 ADAMANT BACK THEN TO LIMIT DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AND KEEP
03:05:30 THEM AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:05:33 AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHY THIS ENDED UP BEING WRITTEN THE
03:05:37 WAY IT IS.
03:05:38 IF YOU ALL LOOK AT PAGE ONE OF THIS EXISTING AGREEMENT --
03:05:43 EXCUSE ME, THE EXISTING ORDINANCE.
03:05:44 SPECIFICALLY, YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING TO EXTEND ON
03:05:49 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE FROM THE VETERANS, YOU'RE LOOKING TO
03:05:53 GO EAST, PAST DALE MABRY, ALL THE WAY TO NEBRASKA.
03:05:57 I'M SURE THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE A BILLBOARD OR TWO --
03:06:01 LOCATION OR TWO DOWN THAT WAY, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING INTO
03:06:09 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:06:13 YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ON
03:06:16 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AS YOU CROSS HIGHLAND -- AND HELP ME
03:06:23 OUT, GUIDO -- ANYWAY -- YEAH, THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH
03:06:29 AVENUE.
03:06:30 AS YOU'RE TRAVELING EASTBOUND, YOU'RE CROSSING DALE
03:06:34 MABRY.
03:06:34 DALE MABRY IS CURRENTLY YOUR BOUNDARY, AND YOU'RE GOING
03:06:37 ALL THE WAY TO NEBRASKA, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH
03:06:39 THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THROUGH THE GOOD PORTION OF
03:06:41 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:06:42 FLORIDA.
03:06:47 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SUBJECT BILLBOARDS ARE BUT ALL OF
03:06:49 A SUDDEN THEY WILL CHANGE FROM PAPER TO DIGITAL.
03:06:52 YEAH, I KNOW HILLSBOROUGH IS A BUSY STREET, BUT AT THE
03:06:58 SAME TIME, IF YOU'RE USED TO A PAPER BILLBOARD UP THERE
03:07:01 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A CHANGING DIGITAL BILLBOARD,
03:07:04 I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON A SURROUNDING
03:07:10 NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:07:11 I DON'T KNOW.
03:07:11 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SPECIFIC LOCATION IS.
03:07:18 YEAH, THE LIGHTING, AND THE CHANGING OF THE WORDS AND
03:07:20 THAT SORT OF THING.
03:07:21 IF THAT'S NEAR MY HOUSE AND I CAN SEE IT FROM MY HOUSE,
03:07:25 THEN THAT'S GOING TO BOTHER ME.
03:07:27 ANYWAY, THAT'S LOCATION NUMBER ONE.
03:07:29 LOCATION NUMBER TWO IS THE NEXT LINE DOWN, WHICH SAYS,
03:07:33 YOU WANT TO EXPAND IT ON DALE MABRY TO INCLUDE NOW --
03:07:41 WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE ADDED THERE, ON DALE MABRY,
03:07:44 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
03:07:45 DID WE NOT -- WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ON DALE MABRY PREVIOUSLY
03:07:48 OR WHAT?
03:07:55 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THE STADIUM AREA.
03:07:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE DIDN'T HAVE
03:07:58 DALE MABRY ON THERE?
03:07:59 >>TODD PRESSMAN: IT HAD JUST THE STADIUM AREA INCLUDED.
03:08:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WAS THAT AN FAP OR AN FAI?
03:08:05 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THAT'S CORRECT, FAP.
03:08:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOW WE'RE ADDING THE NON-FAP AREA,
03:08:09 WHICH IS DALE MABRY FROM HILLSBOROUGH TO KENNEDY.
03:08:11 I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
03:08:14 HILLSBOROUGH TO KENNEDY IS PRETTY MUCH JUST COMMERCIAL.
03:08:17 THEN YOU GO DOWN THERE FROM -- ON DALE MABRY FROM GANDY
03:08:20 DOWN TO THE BASE.
03:08:21 AGAIN, MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOGS AND I DON'T
03:08:31 KNOW IF THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE FOR INPUT ON THIS.
03:08:34 I UNDERSTAND MS. COYLE IS GOING TO HAVE SOME PUBLIC
03:08:38 OUTREACH.
03:08:38 I WANT TO THROW UP RED FLAGS THAT NOW YOU ARE GOING INTO
03:08:42 THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT OR DON'T
03:08:45 WANT DIGITAL ADVERTISING DOWN THERE.
03:08:47 THE LAST PORTION IS GANDY BASICALLY ALONG THE NEW
03:08:55 CONSTRUCTION AREA FROM DALE MABRY TO WESTSHORE, WHICH IS
03:08:58 WHERE WE'RE GOING DOUBLE-DECKER ON GANDY.
03:09:02 AGAIN, THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST TO THE NEW
03:09:05 DOUBLE-DECKER AND, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE
03:09:09 YOUR SIGNS ARE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE.
03:09:12 IF IT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF MANHATTAN AND GANDY, MAYBE
03:09:16 IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
03:09:19 ANYWAY, LITTLE BIT OF MY CONCERNS.
03:09:20 AGAIN, I'M OPEN FOR COMPROMISE.
03:09:23 >>TODD PRESSMAN: LET ME GIVE A SHORT ANSWER.
03:09:27 FIRST OF ALL, FOR THE NEW MEMBERS.
03:09:28 THE BOARDS GO UP.
03:09:29 MESSAGE GOES UP.
03:09:30 IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE, SCROLL, FLASH, CHANGE.
03:09:33 SO THERE'S NO MOVEMENT ON THE SIGNS.
03:09:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 15 SECONDS.
03:09:36 >>TODD PRESSMAN: SECONDLY, IN TERMS OF ILLUMINATION, THEY
03:09:41 ALL HAVE A DEVICE THAT THE BOARD IS LIT UP ONLY ON THE
03:09:44 AMBIENT LIGHT, WHICH MEANS IT HAS A LITTLE DEVICE THAT AS
03:09:47 IT GETS BRIGHTER DURING THE DAY, IT GETS BRIGHTER.
03:09:52 AS IT GETS DARKER IN THE EVENING, IT GETS MUCH DARKER.
03:09:55 THERE'S NOT AN ILLUMINATION THROW EFFECT.
03:09:58 AGAIN, WE HAD A LONG, MANY-MONTHS DISCUSSION ON
03:10:05 DISTANCES, REGULATIONS.
03:10:07 MR. DINGFELDER REMEMBER THAT AND, OF COURSE, MR. MIRANDA
03:10:11 WILL, THAT HAVE WORKED.
03:10:12 I'LL SAY AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A SINGLE COMPLAINT
03:10:16 SINCE 2005.
03:10:17 THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
03:10:20 BELIEVE ME, WE UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY.
03:10:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME SAY QUICKLY, WE INTENTIONALLY
03:10:27 WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE
03:10:30 NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:10:31 WE SAID PUT THEM ON THE INTERSTATE.
03:10:33 PUT THEM ON THE BIG SECTIONS OF HEAVY SECTIONS OF DALE
03:10:36 MABRY AND WHAT HAVE YOU, HILLSBOROUGH, WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT
03:10:40 WE REALLY WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE
03:10:44 NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:10:44 I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE ADDITIONS
03:10:49 ARE NOW CREEPING INTO THESE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'VE
03:10:54 JUST DESCRIBED.
03:10:55 >>TODD PRESSMAN: IF YOU'LL GIVE LIBERTY FOR TOM TO
03:10:57 RESPOND, PLEASE.
03:10:58 >> THANK YOU.
03:10:59 TOM O'NEILL, VP OF REAL ESTATE WITH CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR
03:11:03 AND HANDLED THIS FROM THE START.
03:11:05 TODD, AS ALWAYS, IS VERY ELOQUENT AND PROVIDES GOOD
03:11:09 BACKDROP AND THE BUSINESS QUESTIONS I CAN CERTAINLY
03:11:14 ANSWER.
03:11:14 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOUR HISTORY AND KNOWLEDGE OF THIS
03:11:18 I THINK IS WELCOME FOR THIS GROUP, AND YOUR QUESTIONS ARE
03:11:23 LEGITIMATE.
03:11:24 I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.
03:11:27 I WILL SAY, AS TODD MENTIONED, THE LACK OF COMPLAINT
03:11:31 COMES FROM, LET'S JUST SAY US BEING A GOOD BUSINESS
03:11:34 PARTNER OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE COMPLAINTS COULD POSSIBLY
03:11:38 COME FROM.
03:11:41 UNFORTUNATELY, THE AREAS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR ARE BROAD
03:11:44 STROKE, AND I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, AS YOU DID LAST
03:11:48 TIME.
03:11:48 GOOD CATCH ON THE EXTENSION OF HILLSBOROUGH TO NEBRASKA.
03:11:55 ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WAS, LIKE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DALE
03:11:58 MABRY PORTION AND GOING TO KENNEDY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS DO
03:12:04 NOT BACK UP.
03:12:07 THEY ARE WIDE COMMERCIAL STRIPS THAT PROVIDE A BUFFER.
03:12:10 SO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.
03:12:12 YOU'RE CORRECT.
03:12:15 AS WE CREEP INTO THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, NOW THAT I THINK
03:12:18 ABOUT IT, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.
03:12:20 I THINK CROSSING OVER THE INTERSTATE LINE INTO THAT AREA
03:12:26 GETS US INTO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:12:28 CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO START ANYTHING OF CONCERN FOR
03:12:32 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:12:34 LET ME PUT A PEN TO THAT ROAD AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE
03:12:37 PROPER BUFFERS.
03:12:38 AGAIN, THIS IS BROAD STROKES.
03:12:40 WE'VE ONLY ADDED 13 LOCATIONS, AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE
03:12:44 ARE ON THE INTERSTATE.
03:12:46 I-4, 275.
03:12:47 THEY ARE WELL SPACED.
03:12:48 IT WAS A WELL-WRITTEN ORDINANCE, AND I RESPECT AND
03:12:52 APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN OF CONTINUING TO PROTECT THE
03:12:55 NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:12:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL DEFER TO MR. MANISCALCO, BUT THAT
03:12:59 THE RIVER, ONCE YOU CROSS THE RIVER, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH
03:13:03 INTO SOME PART OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:13:07 >> YES.
03:13:08 I'LL SAY WE'LL STAY BEHIND THE RIVER.
03:13:10 THAT'S AN EASY MOVE.
03:13:12 I ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, AND I WON'T CLAIM
03:13:16 ANY NAÏVETÉ ON NOT KNOWING SPECIFICALLY.
03:13:21 BUT THE THOUGHT IS TO KEEP IT TO WHERE IT IS HIGHLY
03:13:23 BUFFERED FOR COMMERCIAL.
03:13:25 IT IS NOT THERE.
03:13:25 YOU ARE CORRECT.
03:13:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON SOUTH DALE MABRY, THE SOG SECTION,
03:13:28 SOUTH OF GANDY, I'LL DEFER TO MR. CARLSON ON THAT AND LET
03:13:34 HIM PROTECT HIS OWN DISTRICT IN THAT REGARD.
03:13:39 WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS PROTECTING, AGAIN I'LL DEFER TO
03:13:42 HIM.
03:13:50 >> SOG, SOUTH OF GANDY.
03:13:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TOUCHING ON SOME POINTS REGARDING
03:14:01 WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, ON HILLSBOROUGH, AS YOU
03:14:04 CROSS THE RIVER IS -- YOU LEAVE THE WELLSWOOD -- IT'S
03:14:09 RIVER BEND TO THE NORTH, WELLSWOOD TO THE SOUTH.
03:14:11 CROSS THE RIVER, YOU GET INTO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:14:14 YOU GO INTO SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND YOU GET INTO OLD
03:14:17 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, DEPENDING ON HILLSBOROUGH AS THE
03:14:20 DIVIDING LINE.
03:14:22 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WIDENED HILLSBOROUGH AND
03:14:25 THERE WAS ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA, THERE WERE
03:14:28 HOMES AND CERTAIN BUILDINGS.
03:14:31 MANY DEMOLISHED, SOME RELOCATED AND MOVED.
03:14:33 BUT I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THIS IS
03:14:37 WHO IS NOW A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, PAT KEMP, SHE WAS
03:14:39 INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT BACK IN THE 1980s IN PROTECTING
03:14:42 SOME OF THE STRUCTURES AND WHATNOT.
03:14:45 AND THEY FOUGHT FOR THE WALL YOU SEE GOING UP THERE ALL
03:14:49 THE WAY ALMOST TO THE INTERSTATE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF
03:14:51 SOUND BUFFER BECAUSE HILLSBOROUGH IS A VERY BUSY ROAD.
03:14:54 BEFORE DALE MABRY WAS DALE MABRY, HILLSBOROUGH WAS THE
03:14:58 MAIN WIDE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
03:15:00 IN FACT, WHEN MY MOTHER WAS GROWING UP.
03:15:04 GETTING TO THE POINT, ONCE YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE, ALTHOUGH
03:15:07 IT'S COMMERCIAL TO THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
03:15:10 HILLSBOROUGH, THOSE WALLS THAT ARE THERE, IT'S HOMES
03:15:13 RIGHT BEHIND IT.
03:15:15 SO EVEN THOUGH -- I WORE GLASSES AND CAREFUL WHEN I DRIVE
03:15:19 AT NIGHT AND WHATNOT, THE SIGNS DIM AND THEY ARE NOT AS
03:15:23 BRIGHT.
03:15:24 THEY DON'T BOTHER ME.
03:15:25 DON'T DISTRACT ME AS I'M DRIVING UP DALE MABRY AND SEE
03:15:28 THE BRIGHT SIGN AND TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE ROAD, MY FOCUS
03:15:31 IS FINE WITH MY VISION.
03:15:33 PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, THERE'S ONE PROPERTY, AND THIS IS
03:15:37 NOT A DIGITAL BILLBOARD, BUT THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT WAS
03:15:40 NEWLY CONSTRUCTED ON FLORIDA AVENUE JUST SOUTH OF
03:15:42 HILLSBOROUGH AND THEY HAVE THESE BRIGHT LED LIGHTS.
03:15:46 WHEN THEY COME ON, IT ILLUMINATES THAT WHOLE AREA WHERE
03:15:49 THE HOUSES ARE, THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
03:15:52 ONE GENTLEMAN IN PARTICULAR SAYS, EVEN WITH THE CURTAINS
03:15:56 DRAWN AND EVERYTHING, IT'S SO BRIGHT.
03:15:58 AT NIGHT YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH A MASK.
03:16:01 SO THAT'S IT.
03:16:02 THAT'S MY CONCERN.
03:16:03 IT'S THAT SECTION FROM THE INTERSTATE TO THE RIVER IS
03:16:06 WHERE YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE.
03:16:08 THAT'S CLOSEST TO HILLSBOROUGH.
03:16:10 EVEN WITH THAT SOUND WALL OR WHATEVER, THE DECORATIVE
03:16:13 WALL THEY PUT UP, THE LIGHT STILL MAY BE TOO BRIGHT THAT
03:16:17 IT'S GOING TO BE A DISTRACTION AND A BOTHER TO THOSE
03:16:20 FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE.
03:16:22 BUT THE REST OF HILLSBOROUGH TO DALE MABRY, IT'S JUST GAS
03:16:25 STATIONS AND POST OFFICE AND RESTAURANTS.
03:16:28 IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
03:16:30 AND THE HOMES ARE SO FAR BACK THAT IT WOULDN'T REALLY
03:16:32 MATTER.
03:16:34 BUT THEY DIDN'T WIDEN THAT PART OF HILLSBOROUGH BACK WHEN
03:16:37 I WAS A KID.
03:16:38 THEY WIDENED THAT SECTION THROUGH THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
03:16:41 AREA.
03:16:42 SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
03:16:43 THANK YOU.
03:16:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
03:16:44 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:16:45 I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
03:16:47 WE HAVE ABOUT 11 MINUTES LEFT OF THE 30.
03:16:50 I THINK WE SHOULD BE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT.
03:16:53 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL ONLY TAKE 10.
03:16:57 JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND MAYBE A QUESTION.
03:17:01 I'M A MARKETING GUY.
03:17:02 I LIKE AS A MARKETING PERSON TO BE ABLE TO USE THESE.
03:17:06 YOU MENTIONED SMALL BUSINESSES ARE VERY VALUABLE FOR
03:17:10 SMALL BUSINESSES.
03:17:10 GIVES THEM ACCESS TO OUTDOOR FOR THE FIRST TIME.
03:17:13 IT GIVES ACCESS TO NONPROFITS.
03:17:15 THERE ARE A LOT OF TOOLS THAT ARE VERY VALUABLE IN THIS.
03:17:19 IT GIVES YOU GEOTARGETING REALLY THROUGH THESE.
03:17:23 TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S COMMENTS, I JUST WALKED THESE
03:17:28 NEIGHBORHOODS SOUTH OF GANDY, THE SOG, AND THE HOUSES ARE
03:17:35 HALF A BLOCK OR A BLOCK OFF DALE MABRY.
03:17:39 AND SO IF I WERE YOU -- TODD, CAN I TALK TO ABOUT THIS,
03:17:44 IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH THE
03:17:48 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOOD
03:17:50 ASSOCIATION IS VERY ACTIVE.
03:17:51 NEW PRESIDENT, VERY ACTIVE.
03:17:53 AND THEN EVEN PORT TAMPA, I JUST MET WITH THEM A COUPLE
03:17:58 OF NIGHTS AGO.
03:17:59 THEY SEE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING AND IT WOULD BE GOOD
03:18:03 TO UPDATE THEM.
03:18:04 I ASSUME YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT MacDILL AND THE
03:18:07 EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
03:18:08 THE ONE ACROSS GANDY, SO MUCH HAPPENING THERE I'M SURE
03:18:12 ALL THE PEOPLE NORTH AND SOUTH ALONG THERE WOULD WANT TO
03:18:15 KNOW.
03:18:15 THE OTHER QUESTION, THOUGH, BESIDES THE NIMBY ISSUES,
03:18:19 WHAT OTHER CONCERNS DO PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THESE?
03:18:23 WHERE DO YOU THINK THE OPPOSITION WILL COME FROM, IF ANY?
03:18:29 >> THE OPPOSITION PREVIOUSLY WAS NEIGHBORHOOD
03:18:30 ASSOCIATIONS, AND WE DID MEET WITH THEM.
03:18:33 AGAIN, WE HAD A MUCH LARGER MAP THAN WHAT WE FINISHED
03:18:40 WITH.
03:18:40 IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WE'RE IN NOW.
03:18:43 I WOULD SAY BASED UPON YOUR COMMENTS AND, AGAIN, OUR
03:18:47 DESIRE TO KEEP THIS FROM BEING INFLAMMATORY IN ANY SENSE,
03:18:52 I THINK WE CAN REDUCE THE ASK ON SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS
03:18:57 AND NARROW IT DOWN.
03:18:58 IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT,
03:19:04 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IS NOT THE MONEYMAKER THAT THE
03:19:10 INTERSTATE WOULD BE.
03:19:11 TO BE IN THE SECONDARY NEIGHBORHOODS -- NOW, THE
03:19:13 INDUSTRY, OBVIOUSLY, OVER TIME, MAY LOOK AT EXPANDING AS
03:19:16 MANY PLACES AS WE CAN BE, BUT I THINK TO COUNCILMAN
03:19:21 DINGFELDER, PREVIOUS EFFORT, I THINK THE PENCIL BEING
03:19:26 TAKEN TO THE ASK PREVIOUSLY MADE IT AMENABLE TO EVERYONE
03:19:30 AND A WIN-WIN FOR THE TEN YEARS THAT THEY'VE BEEN
03:19:33 OPERATING.
03:19:34 I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AGAIN.
03:19:35 I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
03:19:38 I THINK THE POINTS ARE CONSTRUCTIVE AT THIS POINT.
03:19:42 AND WE CAN TAKE A PENCIL TO THIS AND HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE
03:19:46 ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD.
03:19:52 >>BILL CARLSON: REAL QUICK QUESTION.
03:19:54 THE POSTER SIZE ONES THAT ARE IN SMALL NEIGHBORHOODS --
03:19:56 MAYBE THIS IS A CONTROVERSIAL QUESTION -- DOES ANYBODY IN
03:19:59 THE COUNTRY DO DIGITAL BILLBOARDS FOR THE SMALLER ONES?
03:20:03 BECAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD FOR TARGETING.
03:20:06 >> WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE UP AT THE OLD PICCADILLY CAFETERIA
03:20:12 AT DALE MABRY AND FLETCHER, AND WE HAD ONE OVER IN
03:20:14 PINELLAS COUNTY AT 19 AND CURLEW.
03:20:16 AND THEY WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN THIS MARKET.
03:20:19 IN ALBUQUERQUE, THAT'S THE ONLY SIZE THAT THEY HAVE AND
03:20:23 THE ADVERTISING MARKET TOOK TO THEM A LITTLE BETTER.
03:20:28 BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THE SIZE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
03:20:29 FOURTEEN FORTY-EIGHT AND THE TWELVE FOOT TWENTY-FIVE IS
03:20:34 PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL WHEN YOU'RE AN ADVERTISER.
03:20:36 IT WASN'T QUITE SUCCESSFUL.
03:20:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
03:20:37 ANYONE ELSE?
03:20:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:20:41 >>TODD PRESSMAN: I DO WANT TO MENTION FOR FULL
03:20:43 DISCLOSURE, THERE ARE TWO COMPANIES THAT ARE INVOLVED
03:20:46 WITH SUCCESSFUL SETTLEMENTS.
03:20:48 WHATEVER IS APPROVED, WE COME FORWARD AS CLEAR CHANNEL
03:20:51 OUTDOOR, WHATEVER COMES FORWARD WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO
03:20:54 CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR AND THE OTHER COMPANY, AGAIN FOR
03:20:58 FULL DISCLOSURE.
03:21:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
03:21:02 >> NO, THEY HAVE FAVORED NATION ABILITY INSIDE THEIR
03:21:06 SETTLEMENT, WHATEVER WE GET.
03:21:07 AND FOR PROPRIETARY REASONS, NO REASON TO DISCLOSE UNTIL
03:21:12 WE GET INITIAL.
03:21:13 ONCE THIS COMES OUT, THEY WILL BE.
03:21:16 IF THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO ADD TO THIS, THEN YOU'LL HEAR
03:21:19 FROM THEM AS WELL.
03:21:20 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:21:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CLEAR THAT UP.
03:21:24 SO ALL COMPANIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING THIS FOR ALL
03:21:30 COMPANIES.
03:21:31 OUT FRONT --
03:21:36 >>CATHERINE COYLE: CATHERINE COYLE AGAIN.
03:21:38 THIS IS THE CITY'S REGULATION FOR ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS
03:21:40 THAT APPLIES UNIVERSALLY TO ANYONE THAT QUALIFIES TO PUT
03:21:43 UP AN ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD, PERIOD, REGARDLESS OF
03:21:47 COMPANY.
03:21:50 >>TODD PRESSMAN: ONE DIGITAL BILLBOARD REQUIRES A LARGE
03:21:52 NUMBER TO COME DOWN.
03:21:53 SO A COMPANY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF
03:21:56 BILLBOARDS EQUAL THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
03:21:59 MY UNDERSTANDING -- TOM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- I
03:22:01 THINK THERE ARE ONLY TWO COMPANIES THAT HAVE THAT
03:22:04 ABILITY.
03:22:05 IS THAT CORRECT?
03:22:06 >> PRETTY MUCH.
03:22:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
03:22:08 I WAS WORRIED ABOUT MAKING SURE ALL COMPANIES HAVE THE
03:22:10 RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER.
03:22:11 SHE'S SAYING UNDER OUR POLICY, EVERYONE HAS THAT RIGHT.
03:22:15 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
03:22:16 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
03:22:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:22:17 IS ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 13?
03:22:22 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
03:22:24 >> I DO HAVE THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENTS, TOO.
03:22:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
03:22:30 MY FIRST COUSIN IS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THEIR COMPETITOR,
03:22:38 OUTDOOR.
03:22:39 HE'S UP IN NEW YORK CITY AND WE ONLY TALK LIKE ONCE A
03:22:43 YEAR AT THE HOLIDAYS.
03:22:46 I LOVE HIM DEARLY, BUT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM HAS NO
03:22:53 BEARING, MR. SHELBY, ON ME PROCEEDING TO DISCUSS AND/OR
03:22:58 VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
03:23:00 IF ANYTHING, I'M PROBABLY HARDER ON THE INDUSTRY THAN
03:23:03 MOST PEOPLE.
03:23:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, WHEN THE TIME COMES AND IT COMES
03:23:07 BEFORE YOU, I'LL HAVE A DEFINITE ANSWER.
03:23:09 MY UNDERSTANDING IS FIRST COUSINS UNDER STATE LAW AND
03:23:13 CITY CODE DON'T APPLY BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.
03:23:19 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENTS,
03:23:21 THIS IS THE SECOND DOCUMENT.
03:23:24 JUST BRIEFLY, CITY COUNCIL HAD A MOTION BACK IN JUNE.
03:23:29 MR. AND MRS. HATCH CAME FORWARD.
03:23:31 THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH A NEIGHBOR.
03:23:33 THE SKATEBOARD RAMP THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED.
03:23:35 THAT SPURRED COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION, WHICH
03:23:39 WOUND UP TURNING INTO AN AMENDMENT TO THE CODE, CREATING
03:23:42 A DEFINITION FOR A SKATEBOARD RAMP AS WELL AS THE
03:23:45 REGULATIONS SPECIFIC TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ITSELF.
03:23:49 YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL I BELIEVE THIS MORNING
03:23:52 FROM MR. AND MRS. HATCH, REQUESTING THAT YOU ACTUALLY
03:23:56 MOVE THIS FORWARD.
03:23:58 WE SAT WITH THEM, MS. WELLS CAME AS WELL.
03:24:02 WE SAT WITH THEM OCTOBER 9th AND WENT THROUGH THE
03:24:06 REGULATIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN AT THAT TIME.
03:24:07 WENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT THEY HAD.
03:24:10 WE WENT AND FOLLOWED UP WITH ADDITIONAL RESEARCH,
03:24:13 INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE.
03:24:15 AND WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
03:24:21 THIS IS OC RAMPS IN PARTICULAR.
03:24:23 WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HALF PIPES AND
03:24:27 QUARTER PIPES THAT ARE BUILT FOR SKATE RAMPS AND
03:24:31 BACKYARDS, ALL THE WAY UP TO KIND OF MORE COMMERCIAL
03:24:34 SIZES.
03:24:35 AND GIVEN EVEN THE WRITE-UP THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR
03:24:39 WEBSITE AND THEIR DESCRIPTION, PRODUCT DESCRIPTIONS, IT
03:24:42 MADE SENSE TO DO THE LIMIT TO 8 FEET WIDE, 22 FEET LONG,
03:24:50 3.5 FEET IN HEIGHT AS A STANDARD WHEN IT'S ACCESSORY TO A
03:24:57 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OR USE.
03:25:00 AND THEN ON PAGE 2, NONRESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE USE, 16 FEET
03:25:03 IN WIDTH, 30 FEET LENGTH, 5 FEET IN HEIGHT.
03:25:07 AND THEN THE NOISE ATTENUATION, WE INCLUDED ADDITION OF
03:25:10 SOLID FENCE SIX FEET IN HEIGHT ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH
03:25:13 WHEN ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE.
03:25:15 AND THEN PLANTING ADDITIONAL SHRUBS AND TREES, USING
03:25:18 SOUND-DAMPENING MATERIALS, INSULATION, RAMMED EARTH OR
03:25:23 SIMILAR METHODS TO DAMPEN THE NOISE.
03:25:26 SO THE THOUGHT IS THESE ARE ALSO PLACED AT PRINCIPAL
03:25:28 STRUCTURE SETBACKS.
03:25:29 IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING, IF YOU RECALL THE ONE THAT WAS
03:25:32 BROUGHT FORWARD AS THE COMPLAINT, IT WAS ESSENTIALLY
03:25:35 SITTING AT THE BACK PROPERTY LINE ALONG THE FENCE LINE.
03:25:39 AND IT WAS 28 FEET LONG AND I BELIEVE OVER 20 FEET WIDE.
03:25:45 IT'S MASSIVE.
03:25:47 THIS IN PARTICULAR, THIS REGULATION WOULD REQUIRE THAT IT
03:25:51 WOULD BE PLACED 20 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE ON
03:25:54 THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SO THAT IT SITS BACK
03:25:57 FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IN THE REAR.
03:25:59 IT WOULD ALSO MEET SEVEN FEET SETBACKS ON THE SIDE.
03:26:03 AND IT WOULD LIMIT THE SIZE AND ADD NOISE DAMPENING,
03:26:07 NOISE ATTENUATION MATERIALS.
03:26:08 AND THESE ARE SIMILAR SIZES ARE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT IS
03:26:12 OUT THERE IN THE INDUSTRY BEING SOLD AND MADE FOR HOME
03:26:15 USE ESSENTIALLY.
03:26:16 THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD BASED ON DISCUSSION
03:26:20 WITH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
03:26:23 PAGES TWO THROUGH EIGHT ARE ALL CLEANUP ITEMS
03:26:30 ESSENTIALLY.
03:26:30 THE DEFINITION OF CEMETERY, IT'S ALIGNING IT WITH THE
03:26:36 DEFINITION IN STATE LAW.
03:26:40 ON PAGE 2.
03:26:41 PAGES THREE THROUGH 8 ARE JUST ALL CLEANUP ITEMS,
03:26:45 CLEANING UP THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS
03:26:48 THROUGHOUT EVERY SECTION OF THE CODE WHERE THEY ARE
03:26:50 LISTED AND THEN REFERRING TO THE NEW CODE SECTION,
03:26:55 LITERALLY DISTRICT BY DISTRICT AND CLEANING UP THE
03:26:57 LISTINGS AND FOOTNOTES IN THE TABLES, DIMENSIONAL
03:27:02 STANDARD TABLES AND USE TABLES.
03:27:05 THEY WERE INCORRECTLY REFERENCED.
03:27:07 SOME OF THESE ARE PUBLISHING ERRORS BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD
03:27:10 AND PUT THEM THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THE MUNI CODE PUBLISHES
03:27:14 THEM CORRECTLY.
03:27:15 THOSE ARE THE ITEMS.
03:27:16 I CAN GO ONE BY ONE OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING LATE.
03:27:21 I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TRANSMIT THIS TO THE PLANNING
03:27:24 COMMISSION.
03:27:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CATHY, LOOKING AT YOUR DRAFT CODE AS
03:27:29 COMPARED TO THE PAGES YOU GAVE US FROM THAT VENDOR, IT
03:27:35 SEEMS THAT WE LEFT OUT WHAT THEY CALL THE HALF-PIPE
03:27:39 GARAGE MINI-RAMP.
03:27:40 AT 26 INCHES TALL.
03:27:45 I JUST WONDER WHY.
03:27:54 >>CATHERINE COYLE: LET ME PULL THAT ONE BACK UP.
03:27:56 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, IF I MAY, MS. COYLE
03:28:00 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, ARE ALL
03:28:02 COUNCIL MEMBERS GOOD FOR THE NEXT HOUR OR SO?
03:28:05 6.
03:28:14 JUST MAKING SURE.
03:28:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE BOTTOM OF
03:28:21 PAGE 1, IT SAYS THREE AND A HALF FEET HEIGHT IS THE
03:28:24 MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO INTRUDE INTO THE SETBACKS, BUT THEN
03:28:30 THIS ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS 26 INCHES TALL.
03:28:35 >>CATHERINE COYLE: WITH THIS ONE, I BALANCE BETWEEN THE
03:28:38 QUARTER PIPE AND THE HALF PIPE BECAUSE I SENT A LOT OF
03:28:43 PICTURES AND STUFF, TOO.
03:28:45 MY HUSBAND IS A FORMER SKATEBOARDER, TOO.
03:28:48 I HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THIS.
03:28:49 THESE QUARTER PIPE BOXES THAT ARE BUILT, THESE RAMPS THAT
03:28:52 ARE BUILT, THEY HAVE WHEELS ON THE BOTTOM AND THEY CAN BE
03:28:56 STORED IN GARAGES.
03:28:57 YOU CAN READ THE DESCRIPTION.
03:28:58 I HIGHLIGHTED THE LANGUAGE THAT EXPLAINS THAT YOU CAN
03:29:00 TAKE TWO OF THEM OUT AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AND THEN
03:29:03 YOU'VE GOT A MINI-HALF PIPE IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT THAT
03:29:05 WAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MORE COMPACT AREA TO STORE THEM.
03:29:09 THOSE ARE THREE FEET TWO INCHES FOR THE FOUR FOOT, SIX
03:29:12 FOOT AND EIGHT FEET.
03:29:14 THE GARAGE IS 26 INCHES.
03:29:16 THE GARAGE MINI-RAMP.
03:29:18 HOWEVER, WITH THE HALF PIPE AT 8 FEET WIDE ON UP TO THE
03:29:22 16 FEET WIDE, THOSE ARE THREE AND A HALF FEET, WHICH MADE
03:29:26 SENSE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THEM AND THE WAY THEY ARE BUILT
03:29:29 AND THE ANGLE THAT YOU NEEDED FOR THE SLOPE.
03:29:32 THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS IN OUR REGULATIONS FOR ZONING
03:29:35 PURPOSES, WE START AT THREE FEET WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE
03:29:39 TO MEET A SETBACK THREE FEET IN HEIGHT.
03:29:41 IF YOU'RE UNDER THREE FEET IN HEIGHT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
03:29:44 MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE YARD, FOR A STRUCTURE OR FOR
03:29:47 AN ELEMENT IN YOUR YARD.
03:29:48 I STUCK WITH THREE AND A HALF JUST TO BALANCE IT WITH
03:29:51 WHAT I WAS SEEING AS A BUILT STANDARD.
03:29:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY ONLY CONCERN, AND I KNOW PERHAPS
03:29:56 MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING, LET'S HOPE NOBODY ELSE IS AS RUDE
03:30:00 AS THAT PARTICULAR FAMILY WAS.
03:30:02 BUT, AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING THIS, TO ME, AND I'D NEVER
03:30:05 BEEN A SKATEBOARDER.
03:30:08 MY WIFE WOULD HOPE I NEVER WILL.
03:30:11 TO ME, IT'S THE NOISE.
03:30:15 I DON'T KNOW WHY THE HEIGHT IS SO CRITICAL, BUT TO ME IT
03:30:21 IS THE NOISE OF GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH,
03:30:24 WHETHER OR NOT A THREE-FOOT ONE OR 26-INCH ONE, NEITHER
03:30:27 OF WHICH WE'VE SORT OF REGULATED.
03:30:31 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THESE ARE JUST THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED
03:30:34 DIMENSIONS IF YOU WERE GOING TO PUT ONE ON A RESIDENTIAL
03:30:37 PROPERTY.
03:30:38 WOULDN'T BE ANY LARGER THAN THIS.
03:30:39 YOU COULD CERTAINLY CHANGE IT TO THREE FEET.
03:30:41 I WENT WITH THE AVERAGE OF THOSE SPECIFIC DESIGNS AT THAT
03:30:45 WIDTH.
03:30:45 YOU CAN GO THREE FEET.
03:30:46 I WOULDN'T PUT 26 INCHES, IN OUR REGULATIONS WE START
03:30:53 REGULATING SETBACKS AT THREE FEET IN HEIGHT.
03:30:55 IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THREE AND A HALF TO THREE, THAT
03:30:58 WOULD BE OUR STANDARD ANYWAY.
03:31:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
03:31:04 LET'S TRY AND KEEP THESE THINGS OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:31:07 NORMALLY I WOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT BE AS STRICT AS
03:31:12 POSSIBLE.
03:31:13 I CAN'T IMAGINE LIVING NEXT TO ONE OR NEAR ONE WITH THAT
03:31:18 NOISE GOING ON FOR AN HOUR OR TWO OR WHATEVER.
03:31:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M A VERY PATIENT PERSON.
03:31:30 IF THERE ARE BIRDS CHIRPING THAT'S FINE, SOMEBODY
03:31:33 HAMMERING IN THE UNIT NEXT DOOR I'M FINE.
03:31:36 USING A SAW, I'M FINE.
03:31:37 BUT THE SKATEBOARD RAMPS, THESE THINGS, ESPECIALLY THE
03:31:41 HUSBAND AND WIFE THAT CAME BEFORE US, YOU'RE FAMILIAR
03:31:44 WITH THIS, IT IS AN INTRUSION OF THEIR PRIVACY.
03:31:47 JUST HOW THEY BUILT IT, IT WAS LIKE A COMMERCIAL
03:31:49 STRUCTURE RIGHT IN THE BACKYARD.
03:31:52 THE WAY THE NEIGHBORS ACTED, NO CONSIDERATION WHATSOEVER.
03:31:55 THEY THUMBED THEIR NOSES AT THEM.
03:31:58 THEY HAVE NO PRIVACY WHATSOEVER.
03:32:00 THE NOISE, YOU KNOW WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, IT IS THAT
03:32:04 WHOOSHING SOUND BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AT ALL
03:32:08 HOURS OF THE DAY.
03:32:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: IT WAS ALSO THE PROXIMITY AND THE SIZE
03:32:11 ON TOP OF IT.
03:32:12 THE BIGGER IT IS, THE MORE SKATERS YOU CAN HAVE ON IT AT
03:32:15 THE SAME TIME.
03:32:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
03:32:18 THEY WOULD SIT ON THE FENCE AND MOCK THE NEIGHBORS.
03:32:20 IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
03:32:20 >>CATHERINE COYLE: YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN E-MAIL FROM
03:32:23 THEM ASKING TO PUSH THIS ONE FORWARD BECAUSE THEY LIKE
03:32:26 THIS LANGUAGE.
03:32:27 THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT.
03:32:28 BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE THE THREE FEET.
03:32:30 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
03:32:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE NEEDS A MOTION I'LL ASK TO MODIFY
03:32:36 THAT SLIGHTLY TO BE THREE FEET INSTEAD OF THREE AND A
03:32:40 HALF.
03:32:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SECOND THAT.
03:32:42 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECOND BY
03:32:46 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:32:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:32:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT COVERS EVERYTHING, HOUSE KEEPING
03:32:50 ITEMS, CEMETERY --
03:32:53 MOTION TO TRANSMIT.
03:32:59 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THE DEFINITION AT THE STATE LEVEL
03:33:01 INCLUDES SCATTERING GROUNDS, AND IT INCLUDES -- OURS IS
03:33:06 LIMITED TO HUMAN REMAINS.
03:33:07 THE STATE DOES NOT LIMIT IT TO HUMAN, AND THERE WAS A
03:33:12 QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD DO PET REMAINS.
03:33:14 PETS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE.
03:33:15 OUR CEMETERY DEFINITION ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE, LIKE I
03:33:19 SAID, SCATTERING GROUNDS FOR ASHES.
03:33:23 OURS IS VERY LIMITED.
03:33:24 IT'S STRANGE HOW IT'S WRITTEN AND OUTDATED.
03:33:26 IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY SOMEONE OUT IN THE PUBLIC.
03:33:28 YOU KNOW, IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ACTUALLY ALIGN WITH THE
03:33:33 STATE.
03:33:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
03:33:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: STATE STATUTE DEFINITION IS INCLUDED
03:33:37 UNDERNEATH THIS FOR REFERENCE.
03:33:39 SO IT ALIGNS WITH THAT.
03:33:41 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I THINK YOU WERE
03:33:43 MAKING A MOTION.
03:33:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TRANSMIT TO PLANNING
03:33:45 COMMISSION.
03:33:47 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:33:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:33:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:33:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT A QUESTION BEFORE THE VOTE.
03:33:55 CATHY, I'VE THROWN UP A COUPLE OF ZONING ISSUES.
03:34:03 ONE OF THEM WAS A REQUEST TO TREAT THE CHANNELSIDE
03:34:07 F.A.R.s IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THE DOWNTOWN F.A.R.s
03:34:11 WERE TREATED.
03:34:12 I DON'T KNOW IF IT MADE ITS WAY TO YOUR DESK.
03:34:14 I KNOW WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH IT RIGHT THIS VERY, VERY
03:34:17 SECOND.
03:34:18 BEFORE WE TRANSMIT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S COOKING OR
03:34:23 HOW DO WE GET IT INTO THE CYCLE.
03:34:27 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I'VE GOT ALL THE MOTIONS WRITTEN DOWN
03:34:29 FOR DIFFERENT STATUTES --
03:34:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S FINISH THIS VOTE.
03:34:32 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
03:34:33 ANY OPPOSED?
03:34:34 IT PASSES.
03:34:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
03:34:38 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
03:34:39 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
03:34:52 >>CATHERINE COYLE: CATHERINE COYLE, PLANNING DESIGN AND
03:34:56 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:34:57 IT WAS ESSENTIALLY CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSING PRIVATE
03:35:04 STORAGE WAREHOUSES AND OTHER ISSUES IN THE CHANNEL
03:35:08 DISTRICT.
03:35:09 IT WAS DURING A REZONING CASE.
03:35:11 I GUESS THE THOUGHT WAS WHETHER OR NOT THIS SHOULD BE A
03:35:13 PRINCIPAL USE OR SHOULD BE ALLOWED OR MAYBE THERE SHOULD
03:35:16 BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE LANGUAGE.
03:35:18 I DID WANT TO WALK YOU BRIEFLY THROUGH HOW WE GOT TO
03:35:21 WHERE WE ARE IN THE REGULATIONS.
03:35:22 THIS IS THE CURRENT USE TABLE.
03:35:29 MINI-WAREHOUSE WITH FOOTNOTE 12 IS A PERMITTED USE.
03:35:33 I WROTE THE A NEXT TO IT FOR PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.
03:35:38 MINI-WAREHOUSE AS STAND-ALONE USE IS PERMITTED.
03:35:42 FOOTNOTE 12 REFERS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
03:35:45 IN 27204.
03:35:50 ORIGINALLY, IN 2009, MINI-WAREHOUSE WAS NOT A STAND-ALONE
03:35:56 USE.
03:35:56 IT WAS ONLY ALLOWED ACCESSORY -- IT WAS ALLOWED AS A
03:36:00 PERMITTED USE, STRAIGHT PERMITTED USE BUT IT HAD TO BE
03:36:04 ACCESSORY TO PORT-RELATED ACTIVITIES.
03:36:06 THIS WAS ADDED AS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT AND
03:36:09 ADOPTED IN JANUARY 2009.
03:36:11 THEY PUT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE IT
03:36:14 AS A STAND-ALONE -- YOU COULD HAVE IT AS A PERMITTED USE,
03:36:16 NOT ACCESSORY, BUT THESE REQUIREMENTS ESSENTIALLY MADE IT
03:36:20 ACCESSORY.
03:36:20 IT'S LIMITED TO UPPER FLOORS OF THE BUILDING.
03:36:23 HAS TO BE PART OF THE MIXED USE, AT LEAST TWO USES.
03:36:26 ONE HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
03:36:27 MAY NOT EXCEED 40% OF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A
03:36:31 PROJECT, INTEGRATED WITH A STRUCTURAL SYSTEM OF THE
03:36:34 BUILDING.
03:36:34 ALLOWED IN ALL THE SUBDISTRICTS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
03:36:38 THE RENTAL OF THE UNITS DID NOT HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE
03:36:43 RESIDENTS.
03:36:44 THEY WERE IN THE BUILDING.
03:36:46 AND THEY COULDN'T STORE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, OBVIOUSLY.
03:36:49 SO THAT WENT IN AS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
03:36:52 WHAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO COUNCIL IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT
03:36:55 THE USE TABLE, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE WITH THE
03:36:58 LAND USE REGULATIONS, THE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT WE
03:37:00 HAVE, WHICH MAY LEAD INTO THE CONVERSATION YOU WANTED TO
03:37:04 HAVE, MR. DINGFELDER.
03:37:06 THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THE LAND USE
03:37:08 CATEGORY IS RMU-100.
03:37:10 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
03:37:12 HUNDRED UNITS PER ACRE.
03:37:13 IT'S A 3.5 FLOOR AREA RATIO.
03:37:16 FOR GENERAL DESCRIPTION, 3.5 MEANS THAT IT'S 350 PERCENT
03:37:23 OF YOUR LAND AREA THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN BUILDING AREA.
03:37:28 THIS IS ALSO WITHIN THE CDB PERIPHERY.
03:37:32 ALSO DEFINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
03:37:34 AND THE PERIPHERY ITSELF IS A RING AROUND DOWNTOWN,
03:37:37 GEOGRAPHICALLY.
03:37:38 IF YOU'RE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY, YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
03:37:43 DOUBLE YOUR F.A.R. UP TO SEVEN IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA,
03:37:48 IF YOU PROVIDE BONUS, IF YOU FOLLOW THE BONUS PROVISIONS
03:37:52 IN THE CODE.
03:37:52 THAT'S THE SETUP FOR THAT.
03:37:56 IN THE TABLE ITSELF, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALLOWING USES
03:37:58 OR NOT ALLOWING USES OR SETTING RESTRICTIONS OR
03:38:01 GUIDELINES OR PARAMETERS FOR USES, WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP
03:38:04 IN MIND WHAT THE LAND USE CATEGORY SAYS, BECAUSE IT DOES
03:38:07 DESCRIBE A RANGE OF USES AND INTENSITIES.
03:38:10 AND THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE USE TABLE ITSELF AND LOOK
03:38:13 AT ALL THE OTHER TYPES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED SO THAT
03:38:16 WE'RE NOT ARBITRARILY RESTRICTING USES SIMILAR INTENSITY
03:38:20 OR SIMILAR CHARACTER.
03:38:21 WITHIN THE RMU-100 LAND USE CATEGORY, THAT ALLOWS ALL THE
03:38:26 WAY UP TO FROM RESIDENTIAL THROUGH MIXED USE ALL THE WAY
03:38:28 TO INTENSE COMMERCIAL, WHICH HAS AN ELEMENT OF LIGHT
03:38:32 MANUFACTURING AND SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
03:38:36 THE HISTORY OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT ITSELF IS A MIXED USE
03:38:40 INDUSTRIAL PORT-RELATED BRINGING IN RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S
03:38:44 KIND OF A COMBINED AREA.
03:38:46 BY DESCRIPTION EVEN IN THE CODE.
03:38:47 SO YOU GO THROUGH THE USE TABLE AND YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE
03:38:51 OF OUR INTENSE USES LIKE VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING AS
03:38:54 RELATED TO PORT-RELATED ACTIVITIES.
03:38:56 WAREHOUSE AND WHOLESALE TRADE, PORT-RELATED ACTIVITIES.
03:39:02 OPEN STORAGE, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE FACILITIES AND MAJOR
03:39:08 VEHICLE REPAIR, ALL RELATED TO PORT ACTIVITIES.
03:39:11 HOWEVER, THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND SOME OTHER INTENSE
03:39:13 USES, LIKE MICROBREWERY, PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOTS,
03:39:19 PLACES OF ASSEMBLY, WHICH IS THE ARENA, OR A THEATER OR
03:39:25 WIDE SCALE OF ASSEMBLE USES.
03:39:28 THOSE ARE ALL PERMITTED USES AND NOT RESTRICTED JUST TO
03:39:30 THE PORT.
03:39:31 ORIGINALLY IN 2009 WITH THE RESTRICTIONS THAT IT HAD TO
03:39:37 BE PART OF RESIDENTIAL, MADE SENSE TO COUNCIL AT THAT
03:39:40 TIME.
03:39:41 IT WAS A FOLLOW-UP AMENDMENT, AND THIS IS THE CURRENT
03:39:44 CODE TODAY.
03:39:44 THERE WAS A FOLLOW-UP AMENDMENT IN 2016, WHICH ADDED ON
03:39:50 LANDS WITHIN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE
03:39:53 OF PIECES OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND IN THE CHANNEL
03:39:55 DISTRICT UP AROUND THE CROSSTOWN.
03:39:59 AND WITH THAT LAND USE CATEGORY, YOU ACTUALLY CANNOT,
03:40:02 YOU'RE RESTRICTED, PROHIBITED BY THE LAND USE PLAN TO PUT
03:40:05 RESIDENTIAL ON IT.
03:40:07 AND YOU'RE ALLOWED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES.
03:40:09 SO THIS WAS PUT IN THAT C-2 AND C-3, WHICH IT HAS TO HAVE
03:40:16 RESIDENTIAL AS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS.
03:40:19 AND THAT IT CAN'T EXCEED 40% OF THE BUILDING.
03:40:23 THOSE TWO WERE RESTRICTED OUT.
03:40:25 IF YOU'RE ON THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY LANDS
03:40:28 THAT YOU CAN DO IT AS LONG AS YOU WOULD FOLLOW THE REST
03:40:30 OF THE CRITERIA.
03:40:31 THAT WAS ALSO A PRIVATE AMENDMENT WHICH WAS PUT IN 2016.
03:40:33 SO, THAT'S THE BACKGROUND OF THE CODE AND WHAT IT
03:40:39 REQUIRES.
03:40:39 NOW I'M INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO
03:40:46 DO.
03:40:46 IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT BACK TO WHERE IT'S ONLY
03:40:49 ACCESSORY TO THE BUILDING IT'S IN AS OPPOSED TO ALLOW
03:40:54 RENTED OUTSIDE.
03:41:01 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT.
03:41:05 THERE ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PRETTY SOPHISTICATED
03:41:08 ABOUT URBAN PLANNING IN THE COMMUNITY WHO REALLY, REALLY
03:41:12 HATE THESE.
03:41:12 THEY HATE THEM ANYWHERE IN THE CITY BUT IN PARTICULAR IN
03:41:15 THE CHANNELSIDE AREA.
03:41:16 THEY HATE ANY KIND OF STORAGE UNITS, EVEN IF THEY ARE, I
03:41:20 THINK, NICELY DESIGNED ON THE OUTSIDE, THEY HATE THEM.
03:41:25 I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER CITIES BAN THEM OR REGULATE
03:41:27 THEM, BUT THEY FEEL VERY STRONGLY WE SHOULD GET RID OF
03:41:31 THEM AND NOT ALLOW THEM AT ALL.
03:41:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU TOOK MY THUNDER, SIR.
03:41:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS RIGHT.
03:41:42 I WAS GOING TO ASK IN REFERENCE TO -- WE'RE DISCUSSING
03:41:47 CHANNELSIDE.
03:41:48 COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE SAYING THESE BIG STORAGE USES THEY
03:41:51 ARE NOT BRINGING A BIG ECONOMIC IMPACT TO COMMUNITIES.
03:41:54 THEY ARE NOT PROMOTING JOBS.
03:41:57 I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY WE WILL ALLOW, HOW
03:42:02 CLOSE TO A COMMUNITY IT WOULD ALLOW.
03:42:05 I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF THE
03:42:09 STORAGE BUILDINGS, SMALL UNITS AS A WHOLE, AS IT RELATES
03:42:16 TO THE CITY.
03:42:19 ABUTTING UP TO COMMUNITIES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
03:42:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOING BACK TO THAT PARTICULAR ZONING,
03:42:31 AND I WON'T GET INTO IT IN PARTICULAR, BUT I DO RECALL
03:42:34 AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY HERE DOES.
03:42:40 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY ADAMANT.
03:42:42 THEY WERE UPSET THAT THE CODE ALLOWS IT, EVEN THOUGH
03:42:45 THERE ARE DESIGN CRITERION AND STANDARDS, BUT REGARDLESS,
03:42:49 THAT WE WERE TOLD BY LEGAL THAT IT'S ALLOWED AS A MATTER
03:42:52 OF RIGHT, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THOSE STANDARDS AND THEN
03:42:55 THEY MET THE STANDARDS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
03:42:58 THE GENESIS OF THIS MOTION WAS AFTER ALL OF THAT AND THE
03:43:05 COMMUNITY INPUT WE RECEIVED THOSE NIGHTS, IT BECAME VERY
03:43:11 CLEAR THAT THIS IS QUITE A DIFFERENT CHANNELSIDE THAN IT
03:43:14 WAS TEN YEARS AGO.
03:43:16 YOU MENTIONED 2009.
03:43:18 THERE'S VERY FEW PORT-RELATED ACTIVITIES EXCEPT WITH THE
03:43:24 CRUISE SHIPS I GUESS, WHICH WOULD NOT INVOLVE
03:43:28 MINI-STORAGE.
03:43:29 THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT YOU DESCRIBED, IF IT
03:43:33 DOESN'T ALLOW RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S REALLY UP THERE TO THE
03:43:37 NORTH END, THEN MAYBE WE CAN CARVE THAT OUT AND LEAVE
03:43:41 THEM ALONE BECAUSE MAYBE THAT IS A LOGICAL PLACE UNDER OR
03:43:46 AROUND THE EXPRESSWAY FOR SOME TYPE OF MINI-STORAGE.
03:43:51 BUT IN REGARD TO DOWN IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, I THINK
03:43:54 THEY MADE A VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS NOT A
03:43:58 GREAT USE OF THIS VERY URBAN SPACE.
03:44:04 IN REGARD TO THE OTHER AREAS OF TOWN IS ANOTHER QUESTION
03:44:10 FOR ANOTHER DAY THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT
03:44:14 IN REGARD TO THIS CHANNELSIDE ISSUE, THAT'S WHERE I WAS
03:44:19 COMING FROM WITH THAT MOTION.
03:44:24 >>CATHERINE COYLE: JUST TO QUICKLY RECAP TO PUT IT IN
03:44:26 CONTEXT BECAUSE IN COMPARISON TO THE STORAGE FACILITIES,
03:44:31 100% STORAGE, THAT IS --
03:44:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BY THE WAY, DO YOU ALLOW IT DOWNTOWN?
03:44:37 >>CATHERINE COYLE: AIR CONDITIONED STORAGE IS ALLOWED
03:44:39 DOWNTOWN.
03:44:40 YES.
03:44:40 NOT MINI-WAREHOUSE BUT AIR CONDITIONED STORAGE.
03:44:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
03:44:45 >>CATHERINE COYLE: MINI-WAREHOUSE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AIR
03:44:48 CONDITIONED.
03:44:51 IF YOU'RE IN THE STORAGE GAME, YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
03:44:55 GO TO 46th, 47th, YOU'LL SEE MINI-WAREHOUSE,
03:44:58 OLD-STYLE, YEAH, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT.
03:45:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE'RE
03:45:05 DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN CHANNEL DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN IN
03:45:11 REGARD TO THIS REG, FRANKLY IF I TOOK SOMEBODY FROM OMAHA
03:45:15 AND PLOPPED THEM IN THE DOWNTOWN NEAR SOME OF THE
03:45:17 RESIDENTIAL AND PLOPPED THEM DOWN BY CHANNELSIDE AND SOME
03:45:19 OF THE RESIDENTIAL, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SAY, OH, THIS
03:45:22 IS DIFFERENT.
03:45:22 >>CATHERINE COYLE: KEEP IN MIND, TOO, AS YOU SAID, TEN
03:45:25 YEARS OLD.
03:45:26 AND IN CONTEXT, AS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM THE
03:45:30 BEGINNING, ORIGINAL INCEPTION WITH THE PLAN AND THEN
03:45:32 MORPHED IT WAS INDUSTRIAL, MORPHING INTO A MIXED USE AND
03:45:38 SO ON.
03:45:39 IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY SIMILAR
03:45:45 TO THE DOWNTOWN REGULATIONS, EXCEPT THAT IT'S AIR
03:45:48 CONDITIONED STORAGE DOWNTOWN, IS THAT IT IS LIMITED TO
03:45:52 40% OF THE OVERALL BUILDING AND STORAGE ITSELF HAS TO BE
03:45:54 ON UPPER FLOORS.
03:45:56 IT CAN'T BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
03:45:58 YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A U-HAUL OR EXTRA SPACE STORAGE
03:46:02 BUILDING LIKE ON HILLSBOROUGH WHERE IT'S 100%.
03:46:05 60% OF THE BUILDING IS OCCUPIED BY SOMETHING ELSE.
03:46:08 IT HAS TO BE IN A MIXED USE BUILDING WITH TWO USES.
03:46:12 ONE OF THE USES HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
03:46:14 THERE WILL BE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IN THE CHANNEL
03:46:16 DISTRICT IN THE BUILDING.
03:46:18 THIS IS JUST ANOTHER USE IN IT.
03:46:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE OTHER PART THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT
03:46:22 WAS THE TRAFFIC AND TRUCKS AND U-HAULS AND SMALL STREETS,
03:46:29 TIGHT STREETS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT THIS COULD
03:46:32 GENERATE.
03:46:37 I'M KIND OF THE MESSENGER ON THIS ONE.
03:46:41 I DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN CHANNELSIDE, PER SE.
03:46:44 WE SURE HEARD THEM LOUD AND CLEAR AT THAT MEETING.
03:46:49 >>CATHERINE COYLE: COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER CHANGING SOME
03:46:51 OF THE DIMENSIONAL AREA REQUIREMENTS, PERCENTAGES.
03:46:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS WHAT I'D RATHER DO, SINCE WE
03:46:59 DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TODAY, IS ASK -- SEND TOWANDA
03:47:06 OUT THERE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO VERY
03:47:08 STRONG ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE.
03:47:10 THE CAC AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT I CAN'T
03:47:12 REMEMBER THE NAME OF, BUT SEND THEM OUT -- YOU KNOW, ASK
03:47:16 HER KINDLY TO GO OUT TO THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD
03:47:20 ASSOCIATIONS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK.
03:47:24 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I WAS TALKING TO ROB ROSNER.
03:47:28 HE'S BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM, TOO.
03:47:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ROB IS INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH ALL
03:47:32 THOSE FOLKS.
03:47:32 LET'S GET THEIR INPUT AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
03:47:35 MAYBE COME BACK WITH A REPORT WHENEVER YOU FEEL
03:47:37 APPROPRIATE.
03:47:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: WE CAN DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.
03:47:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, I WON'T PUT A
03:47:43 TIME ON IT, BUT JUST -- I TRUST YOU AND -- YOU ALL GO
03:47:48 BACK AND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, COME BACK AND GIVE US YOUR
03:47:51 REPORT ON WHAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.
03:47:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
03:47:56 DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:47:58 ANY DISCUSSION?
03:47:59 JUST REAL QUICK, THERE IS A GENTLEMAN NAMED MR. LEWIS
03:48:02 FROM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WHO STARTED DOWN THERE IN THE
03:48:07 1960s.
03:48:08 ONE OF HIS CONCERNS WHEN HE CAME BEFORE COUNCIL WAS WE
03:48:13 WORKED SO HARD OVER THE YEARS TO PULL AWAY FROM THIS
03:48:15 WAREHOUSE DISTRICT IDEA OF WHAT IT WAS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD
03:48:21 BECAUSE IT'S CHANGING SO MUCH WITH VINIK AND EVERYTHING
03:48:23 BEYOND THAT WHOLE AREA.
03:48:25 I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION.
03:48:26 ANOTHER LOCAL GROUP, VERY ACTIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S A
03:48:30 LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT
03:48:37 PROPER CITY PLANNING AND WHATNOT, MOVING FORWARD AND
03:48:39 SMART CITIES AND SMART GROWTH AND WHATNOT AND STORAGE
03:48:42 FACILITIES, NO MATTER HOW PERCENTAGE-WISE, SOME OTHER
03:48:46 USE, WHATNOT.
03:48:46 THEY DON'T WANT THAT.
03:48:48 THEY WANT A LEGITIMATE, TRUE, LIVE, WORK, PLAY, STORAGE
03:48:51 UNITS DON'T PARTICULARLY FIT INTO THAT.
03:48:54 SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION.
03:48:55 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND
03:48:58 FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:48:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:49:01 ALL RIGHT.
03:49:02 MOTION PASSES.
03:49:04 THAT CONCLUDES NUMBER 14.
03:49:06 WE ARE ON OUR FINAL ITEM, NUMBER 15, REGARDING CREATING A
03:49:10 REENTRY ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY BROUGHT TO YOU BY
03:49:13 COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START THE
03:49:16 DISCUSSION.
03:49:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN
03:49:20 LIVING IN THE CITY FOR A WHILE.
03:49:23 ALL BEEN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THIS LAST SESSION YOU
03:49:26 HEARD CONCERNS OF MULTIPLE CITIZENS ABOUT HOUSING BEING A
03:49:32 FACTOR, FOLKS WHO ARE IN THEIR SENIOR YEARS WHO HAD PAST
03:49:40 INDISCRETION STILL CAN'T GET INTO AN APARTMENT.
03:49:43 STILL CAN'T GET INTO A RENTAL PLACE WITH LANDLORDS.
03:49:46 YOU HEARD ABOUT THE WORKFORCE.
03:49:49 YOU HEARD ABOUT SOME OF OUR CONTRACTS THAT WE GIVE OUT.
03:49:54 FOLKS STILL NOT ABLE TO GET ON THE WORKFORCE.
03:49:57 EVEN OUR CITY EMPLOYMENT, I HEAR PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED
03:50:01 AND SAY, I DIDN'T GET HIRED BECAUSE OF A RED LIGHT TICKET
03:50:06 OR A DUI THAT WAS 30 YEARS OLD.
03:50:09 I'M HEARING THAT CONSTANTLY, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THIS DUI
03:50:13 ISSUE THAT PEOPLE HAD MULTIPLE YEARS AGO.
03:50:16 PEOPLE PLANNING ON DRIVING OR USING A CITY WORK TRUCK.
03:50:21 JUST SOME OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING.
03:50:23 I'VE GONE AND HEARD OTHER CITIES ALREADY IMPLEMENTED
03:50:27 POLICIES AND PRACTICES, SECOND CHANCE ORDINANCE SOME
03:50:29 PEOPLE CALL THEM, IN REFERENCE TO MAKING SURE FAIR
03:50:33 HOUSING, PUTTING LIMITATIONS, MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AREN'T
03:50:37 PUTTING THESE ASTRONOMICAL YEARS AND DATES ON PEOPLE TO
03:50:41 GET HOUSING.
03:50:42 AND ALSO THE WORKFORCE.
03:50:44 I JUST LOOK AT OUR WORKFORCE IN THE CITY, AND I JUST
03:50:47 BELIEVE THAT WHEN A PERSON APPLIES FOR THE CITY WORKFORCE
03:50:49 AND THEY ARE DENIED, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY
03:50:53 TO BE TOLD WHY TO DENY AND SHOULD HAVE SOME PROCESS IN
03:50:58 PLACE WHERE WE CAN SEND TO AN OUTSOURCE PLACE FOR REENTRY
03:51:02 PROGRAM TO WHERE WE HAVE A CRITERIA, WE GIVE THAT
03:51:05 PARTICULAR OUTSOURCE PLACE SO THAT PERSON CAN GO, GET
03:51:08 SOME TRAINING, COME BACK WITH A CERTIFICATE, BE ABLE TO
03:51:11 APPLY TO THE CITY WORKFORCE.
03:51:12 PUT ON A LIST AND EVENTUALLY GET ON THE CITY WORKFORCE
03:51:15 WHEN SOMETHING BECOMES AVAILABLE.
03:51:17 WE HAVE TO BE AN INCLUDE CITY AND BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE
03:51:20 THAT FOLKS CAN BE ABLE TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE LIFE WITH
03:51:23 BENEFITS AND BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK AND BE ABLE TO HAVE
03:51:27 HOUSING.
03:51:27 THAT'S WHY I ASK THE CITY STAFF AND LEGAL COME BACK TO ME
03:51:31 AND GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION.
03:51:32 GIVE ME SOME DETAILS, SOME STRUCTURE TO POSSIBLY CREATING
03:51:36 A SECOND CHANCE, SLASH, REENTRY ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF
03:51:40 TAMPA TO SHOW WE ARE AN UP AND COMING CITY AND WE'RE
03:51:43 MOVING FORWARD TO HELP PEOPLE IN THEIR DAILY LIVES.
03:51:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES -- I MENTIONED IT
03:51:48 EARLIER I BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND SECOND CHANCES.
03:51:51 I KNOW A GENTLEMAN IN COLLEGE WHO WAS ARRESTED IN 2006.
03:51:55 THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED.
03:51:57 NOTHING HAPPENED.
03:51:58 HE HAD TO PAY $5,000 TO AN ATTORNEY.
03:52:01 IN THE END, HE WAS NOT EVEN FOUND INNOCENT.
03:52:05 THAT WAS IT.
03:52:06 THEY DISMISSED THE CASE.
03:52:07 ANYTIME HE APPLIES FOR EMPLOYMENT HE HAS TO -- THEY ASK
03:52:10 HIM, HAVE YOU BEEN ARRESTED.
03:52:12 HE DOESN'T LIVE IN TAMPA.
03:52:14 BUT HE HAS TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING, TELL THE WHOLE STORY,
03:52:17 WHATEVER.
03:52:17 SO THAT FOLLOWS HIM 13 YEARS AFTER THE ARREST.
03:52:20 WE ONLY LIVE LIFE ONCE AND WE HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY.
03:52:24 WE HAVE MANY CHANCES THROUGHOUT LIFE, BUT PEOPLE
03:52:28 SHOULDN'T BE DEMONIZED BECAUSE THEY MADE A MISTAKE ONCE.
03:52:32 THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN A DUI.
03:52:36 WHATEVER THE CRIME OR THE CHARGE MAY HAVE BEEN, BUT
03:52:39 PEOPLE GO TO JAIL.
03:52:40 THEY SERVE TIME.
03:52:42 THEY DO THEIR SENTENCE.
03:52:43 THEY COMPLETE IT.
03:52:44 THAT'S NOT THE END OF EVERYTHING.
03:52:46 THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN LIFE.
03:52:49 I DON'T BELIEVE IN REVENGE AND GETTING EVEN.
03:52:51 I BELIEVE IN OFFERING PEOPLE NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND
03:52:54 ELIMINATING THE HURDLES AND OBSTACLES THAT ARE IN PLACE.
03:52:57 WE SEE THIS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
03:53:02 I'M GLAD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES BROUGHT THIS UP
03:53:05 BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, NOT JUST TO LOWER INCOME
03:53:08 BUT TO EVERYBODY.
03:53:09 YOU COULD BE RICH AND GET ARRESTED.
03:53:11 YOU CAN BE POOR AND GET ARRESTED.
03:53:13 YOU CAN BE COLLEGE EDUCATED AND GET ARRESTED, WHATEVER IT
03:53:16 IS.
03:53:17 NO ONE IS IMMUNE TO IT.
03:53:18 I'M GLAD THAT THIS CONVERSATION HAS COME UP.
03:53:22 WERE YOU GOING TO PRESENT ON IT, SIR.
03:53:27 >> I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS LEGAL.
03:53:29 SO WE WERE ALL YOUNG AND FOOLISH.
03:53:31 SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE EVEN MOONED IN COLLEGE.
03:53:35 WE WON'T GO THERE.
03:53:36 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:53:38 ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:53:41 WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED.
03:53:43 WE'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.
03:53:45 WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DIALOGUE JUST TO GET A
03:53:48 BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT WAS THAT COUNCIL WANTED
03:53:52 US TO LOOK AT.
03:53:53 I WOULD NOTE WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR CODE WHAT IS CALLED
03:53:57 THE BAN THE BOX ORDINANCE IN SECTION 12-128 CRIMINAL
03:54:03 HISTORY SCREENING PRACTICES.
03:54:05 AND WE DON'T ASK SOMEONE AT THE OUTSET IN THEIR
03:54:09 APPLICATION WHETHER THEY HAVE ANY CRIMINAL RECORD.
03:54:12 HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DO A
03:54:19 BACKGROUND CHECK CONSISTENT WITH WHATEVER JOB SOMEONE IS
03:54:22 APPLYING FOR.
03:54:24 WITH SOME JOBS, CERTAIN CRIMINAL OFFENSES ARE MORE
03:54:27 RELEVANT THAN WITH OTHERS.
03:54:34 TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE, THAT IF SOMEONE, IF
03:54:37 THE CITY DETERMINES THAT A BACKGROUND CHECK MAKES SOMEONE
03:54:40 INELIGIBLE FOR THE POSITION, THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO
03:54:44 NOTIFY THAT PERSON AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO
03:54:47 RESPOND AND CONSIDER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PROVIDED
03:54:50 IN WRITING.
03:54:51 SO THERE IS SOME PROCESS.
03:54:53 I'M NOT -- AND PERHAPS MR. SWAIN IS MORE FAMILIAR HOW
03:54:58 THAT WORKS.
03:54:59 BUT THERE IS SOME PROCESS IN PLACE, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M
03:55:02 HEARING IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE SOMETHING MORE, AND WE CAN
03:55:05 CERTAINLY LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE
03:55:08 DOING.
03:55:08 WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR TO DATE,
03:55:12 BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK.
03:55:15 AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR YOU'D LIKE US
03:55:18 TO LOOK AT, PLEASE --
03:55:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MENTIONED BANNING THE BOX.
03:55:23 I'M GLAD WE HAVE THAT.
03:55:24 THAT IS A SMALL CAVEAT.
03:55:25 I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
03:55:27 YOU CAN HAVE THE BAN THE BOX ALL DAY LONG AND NOT ASK THE
03:55:30 PERSON.
03:55:31 ONCE THEY GET IN THE DOOR AND SIT DOWN IN THE SEAT,
03:55:34 THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS TAKING PLACE.
03:55:37 YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE CAVEAT TO DINGLE THAT YOU DON'T ASK
03:55:42 ANY QUESTIONS UNTIL YOU GET IN THERE.
03:55:44 ONCE YOU GET IN THERE, THE -- IT REALLY FLIPS THE SCRIPT
03:55:49 AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT.
03:55:51 I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
03:55:54 MY MAIN FOCUS TO MAKE SURE -- I'M NOT LOOKING FOR WHAT WE
03:55:58 CAN'T DO.
03:55:59 I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR CITIZENS.
03:56:02 LOOK AT HOUSE NUMBER ONE.
03:56:03 WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOME KIND OF CRITERIA IN OUR
03:56:06 CITY TO SHOW THAT WE'RE THE DRIVING FORCE.
03:56:09 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, THERE ARE A LOT OF
03:56:12 FAMILIES.
03:56:13 NOT PEOPLE ON DRUGS AND ALCOHOL BUT SINGLE MOMS OR SINGLE
03:56:16 FAMILIES, THEIR DAD MAYBE CREATED A SMALL MISTAKE AND HE
03:56:19 CAN'T BE WITH HIS FAMILY, HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN IN THAT
03:56:22 APARTMENT, AND SOMETHING 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
03:56:27 WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE
03:56:29 THAT OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS HERE, OUR HOUSING GUIDELINES
03:56:33 FOR OUR CITY ARE MAKING SURE WE'RE INCLUSIVE AND MAKING
03:56:36 SURE THESE LONGTIME, I CALL LIFE SENTENCES ON PEOPLE'S
03:56:40 LIVES DON'T HURT THEM WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
03:56:43 THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
03:56:46 THE WORKFORCE, NUMBER TWO, MAKING SURE WHEN WE'RE GIVING
03:56:49 OUR CONTRACTS WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE WE'RE
03:56:51 MAKING SURE OUR CONTRACTORS WHO WE'RE GIVING ALL THESE
03:56:54 DOLLARS ARE HIRING PEOPLE WITH PAST CONVICTIONS.
03:56:58 THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
03:56:58 IF WE GIVE OUT MULTIPLE MONEY FOR WORK, THEY SHOULD BE
03:57:01 HIRING PEOPLE AND SHOULD BE PROCESS IN PLACE.
03:57:04 I BELIEVE OUR HR DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF
03:57:07 PROCESS TO WHERE IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE CRITERIA,
03:57:11 THERE ARE SEVERAL OUTSOURCE REENTRY PROGRAMS THAT THE HR
03:57:14 COULD POSSIBLY SEND THE FOLKS TO, HAVE A CRITERIA FOR THE
03:57:18 CITY TO WHERE THEY CAN GO TO THE PROGRAM TO GET A
03:57:21 CERTIFICATE FROM THAT PROGRAM SAYING THEY CERTIFIED, MET
03:57:24 THE CITY GUIDELINES AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME BE ABLE TO
03:57:27 COME BACK, APPLY AND GET HIRED FOR A JOB.
03:57:30 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:57:31 MIKE SWAIN, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES MANAGER IN HR.
03:57:34 JUST TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT YOU'VE NOTED.
03:57:38 WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE CURRENTLY WHERE THERE IS
03:57:42 FORGIVENESS, IF YOU WILL.
03:57:44 THERE ARE ESTABLISHED TIMELINES WHERE LIKE ANY OTHER
03:57:48 EMPLOYER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S A
03:57:50 REHABILITATION PERIOD NECESSARY, THEN IT'S BEEN
03:57:54 ESTABLISHED WHERE WE GIVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS SECOND
03:57:57 CHANCES.
03:57:57 WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE A DUI, A COUPLE OF YEARS
03:58:01 AGO WE REVISITED THAT.
03:58:03 I THINK THE INITIAL TOPIC CAME FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER
03:58:06 WHERE IT'S NO LONGER HELD AGAINST SOMEONE WHO IS NOT
03:58:10 GOING INTO A DRIVING POSITION.
03:58:12 HOWEVER, IF IT'S A DRIVING POSITION, THERE IS A FIVE-YEAR
03:58:15 WAIT TO MAKE SURE THE INDIVIDUAL MAINTAINS A CLEAR
03:58:19 RECORD.
03:58:19 IF IT IS A NON-DRIVING POSITION, IF THE INDIVIDUAL
03:58:22 APPLIES AND THEY'VE HAD ALL THEIR FINES TAKEN CARE OF,
03:58:26 THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR NON-DRIVING POSITION.
03:58:28 THEY WILL PASS BACKGROUND, NO ISSUES.
03:58:32 WE DO HAVE THAT IN PLACE NOW.
03:58:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT ABOUT THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
03:58:35 I'M HEARING FOLKS CALLED MY OFFICE IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
03:58:40 >> DRIVING POSITION, WE ALLOW THREE MOVING VIOLATIONS
03:58:42 WITHIN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
03:58:44 IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS APPLYING FOR A DRIVING-RELATED
03:58:47 POSITION, IF THEY EXCEED A -- THREE MOVING VIOLATIONS,
03:58:51 THEN, YES, THEY WILL BE DISQUALIFIED UNTIL THAT FOURTH
03:58:55 ONE DROPPED OFF.
03:58:56 AND RED LIGHT CAMERAS DO FALL INTO THAT MOVING VIOLATION
03:58:59 CATEGORY.
03:59:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I'LL GET IN TROUBLE.
03:59:08 >> WHEN IT COMES TO ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN
03:59:10 REFER AN INDIVIDUAL TO, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE CITY DOESN'T
03:59:14 HAVE ANYTHING.
03:59:15 CERTAINLY, MYSELF, AND MY TEAM, WHEN WE RUN ACROSS AN
03:59:19 INDIVIDUAL, WE REALIZE THEY ARE VERY MOTIVATED TO WORK
03:59:22 FOR THE CITY, THEN WE'LL REFER THEM TO TEMP AGENCIES AND
03:59:26 THINGS OF THAT NATURE JUST TO GIVE THEM SOME TYPE OF
03:59:29 GUIDANCE AND GIVE THEM SOME MOTIVATION AND ENCOURAGE THEM
03:59:32 TO NOT GIVE UP.
03:59:32 THE CITY IS CERTAINLY A PLACE WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO
03:59:36 WORK, ONCE YOU ALLOW A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GO BY SO THE
03:59:40 TICKET DROPS OFF OR YOU FALL WITHIN OUR CRITERIA, WE'D
03:59:42 LOVE TO HAVE YOU REAPPLY.
03:59:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
03:59:47 TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
03:59:48 I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE INTERNET THE OTHER DAY, CAPITAL
03:59:50 ONE SAID THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR POLICIES BECAUSE THEY
03:59:52 REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT THEY'VE GOT TO
03:59:55 GET EMPLOYEES.
03:59:57 THEY'VE GOT TO CHANGE SOME OF THEIR CRITERIA AS WELL AND
04:00:00 THEIR HIRING PRACTICES.
04:00:01 IF CAPITAL ONE IS SAYING THEY CAN DO THAT, THEN US AS A
04:00:04 BIG CITY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR HIRING PRACTICES
04:00:07 AND LOOKING AT PROGRAMS SO PEOPLE DON'T FALL INTO THAT
04:00:11 CRACK I TALK ABOUT, THAT WE AUTOMATICALLY SEND THEM
04:00:14 SOMEPLACE THAT THEY CAN GET CERTIFIED AND COME BACK
04:00:18 WITHIN A TIME FRAME AND SAY WE CAN PUT YOU ON A LIST.
04:00:21 WHEN SOMETHING BECOMES AVAILABLE YOU CAN APPLY.
04:00:24 IF YOU MEET THE CRITERIA, GET ON THE WORKFORCE.
04:00:26 THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, MR. SWAIN.
04:00:30 I'M HOPING WE CAN DO THAT.
04:00:33 AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING, VERY CRITICAL AND AGAIN WITH
04:00:35 CONTRACTS.
04:00:36 CONTRACT IS A BIG ISSUE.
04:00:38 ALL THIS MONEY THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS JUST ENACTED TO GET
04:00:41 THINGS DONE AROUND HERE, WE'VE GOT TO EMPLOY PEOPLE AND
04:00:45 GIVE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES.
04:00:46 THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING FOR LEGAL AND STAFF TO COME UP
04:00:49 WITH SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE PLAN THAT DEALS WITH
04:00:51 WORKFORCE, CONTRACT, AND HOUSING SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOME
04:00:55 FOR OUR CITIZENS SO THIS COUNCIL IS WORKING FOR THE
04:00:58 PEOPLE TO GIVE OPPORTUNITY.
04:01:00 >> MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH LEGAL AND THE
04:01:02 ADMINISTRATION TO TRY AND DEVELOP SOMETHING.
04:01:13 >> SUPER WOMAN.
04:01:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
04:01:18 ABOUT THIS.
04:01:18 I WENT TO A FABULOUS EVENT LAST NIGHT.
04:01:21 SHE SCOLDED ME.
04:01:24 YOU LEFT BEFORE I GOT MY AWARD.
04:01:26 I DIDN'T SEE YOUR NAME ON THE PROGRAM FOR AWARD.
04:01:29 SHE SAID IT WAS A SPECIAL AWARD.
04:01:31 TWO OF OUR EMPLOYEES OUT OF THE HOUSING DIVISION,
04:01:33 MS. TRINA GADSDEN GARNER WON THE AWARD LAST NIGHT.
04:01:37 THE AWARD SHE GOT WAS FOR THE REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT.
04:01:43 >> REAL ESTATE EDUCATION.
04:01:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REAL ESTATE EDUCATION.
04:01:45 WE HAD ANOTHER EMPLOYEE ALSO NOMINATED AS A FINALIST,
04:01:50 MS. LATASHA HICKS ALSO A PART OF IT.
04:01:53 THEN I FOUND OUT THAT OUR SUPERWOMAN GOT A SUPERHERO
04:01:57 AWARD AT THE END.
04:02:01 SHE'S WEARING HER CAPE TODAY.
04:02:04 THIS WAS LAST NIGHT.
04:02:06 THE HOUSING AND EDUCATION ALLIANCE, MS. SYLVIA WHO RUNS
04:02:10 THE ORGANIZATION.
04:02:11 SHE PUTS ON THIS FABULOUS OSCARS OR EMMY EVENT WITH THE
04:02:15 NICE TROPHIES AND BIG GALA.
04:02:17 AND WAS VERY NICE.
04:02:19 THEY RECOGNIZED DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR HOUSING, REAL
04:02:25 ESTATE, WHO'S DOING THE MOST AS HOUSING GOES AND
04:02:30 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A CITY.
04:02:31 I THINK ORANGE COUNTY WON THAT ONE.
04:02:33 I WAS HOPING WE WOULD WIN IT --
04:02:36 >> WE GOT IT LAST YEAR.
04:02:37 THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THEY GOT IT FROM US THIS YEAR.
04:02:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WISH MORE OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE
04:02:43 BEEN THERE.
04:02:43 THEY GAVE ME AN INVITE.
04:02:45 I WENT.
04:02:45 I'M SORRY I MISSED YOUR PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT.
04:02:48 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ANYWAY AND YOUR STAFF.
04:02:51 >> THANK YOU.
04:02:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS WEEKEND.
04:02:54 AGAIN, ON A HOUSING NOTE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
04:02:58 NOTHING NEW.
04:02:59 THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE.
04:03:01 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS OF HOW MANY
04:03:04 FAMILIES ARE DISPLACED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET HOUSING
04:03:08 BECAUSE OF CONVICTIONS.
04:03:10 DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF NUMBERS ON THAT?
04:03:13 >> I DO NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH ME.
04:03:15 I DO KNOW IT IS A LARGE NUMBER.
04:03:17 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, PART OF WHAT
04:03:21 MAKES UP THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, A LARGE PORTION OF IT,
04:03:24 FELON -- PEOPLE WITH FELONY CONVICTIONS AS WELL AS PEOPLE
04:03:29 WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
04:03:31 SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HOUSE THOSE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
04:03:33 IT'S JUST KEEPING THEM HOUSED.
04:03:36 WE RUN INTO A LOT OF BARRIERS WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE
04:03:39 WITH CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS.
04:03:41 SO THROUGH OUR FAIR HOUSING OFFICE, WE ARE DOING
04:03:44 EDUCATION OF LANDLORDS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, THEY
04:03:48 SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING -- THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE A BOX AND
04:03:51 LOOK STRICTLY AT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND WITHOUT TAKING IT
04:03:54 INTO CONTEXT.
04:03:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE IT
04:03:58 SEEMS LIKE.
04:03:59 IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE EDUCATING AND TELLING THEM THAT
04:04:02 AND STILL NOT DOING IT, IT'S TIME TO BE THE ENFORCER TO
04:04:06 DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
04:04:07 I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME.
04:04:08 WHEN I GO OUT IN COMMUNITIES, I CAN'T GET A PLACE.
04:04:11 I'M LOOKING AT THIS PERSON, ELDERLY PERSON WHO IS STILL
04:04:15 LIVING WITH OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE
04:04:17 THEIR OWN.
04:04:18 I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT ALONE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW
04:04:21 SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN.
04:04:24 WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
04:04:25 I'M HOPING AFTER THE OTHER GENTLEMEN TALK THAT WE CAN
04:04:28 START WORKING ON THAT PROCESS AND GET A TIME AND DATE TO
04:04:31 BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE TO PUT IN PLACE THOSE THREE
04:04:34 SUBJECT ITEMS.
04:04:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
04:04:35 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:04:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN GUDES, GOOD CONVERSATION.
04:04:42 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:04:43 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WHO DRAFTED CHAPTER 12-128, BAN THE
04:04:54 BOX, THEY DIDN'T DO A WHOLE LOT IN TERMS OF MAKING REAL
04:04:59 PROGRESS, I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED
04:05:03 EARLIER AS I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL TEXT,
04:05:07 ALL IT DOES IS ELIMINATE IT FROM THE FIRST PORTION OF THE
04:05:11 PROCESS.
04:05:12 YOU CAN WALK IN THE DOOR AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION.
04:05:16 IF YOU GET ANY FURTHER IT APPEARS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THE
04:05:20 CITY WILL DO A COMPREHENSIVE BACKGROUND CHECK AND WHO
04:05:24 KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT.
04:05:28 I THINK IF WE WANT TO, QUOTE, TRULY BAN THE BOX, I THINK
04:05:31 WE NEED TO BE MORE EXPLICIT WHAT WE EXPECT AS A COUNCIL,
04:05:39 A POLICY MAKING BODY, FIVE YEARS.
04:05:42 FIVE YEARS GO BY AND YOUR RECORD IS CLEAN, THAT THE CITY
04:05:47 CAN'T HOLD IT AGAINST YOU.
04:05:48 IF THAT'S OUR INTENT.
04:05:50 BUT I THINK IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, I THINK WE HAVE
04:05:54 TO BEEF IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M
04:05:57 SEEING IN THIS CHAPTER 12-128 THROUGH 131.
04:06:03 MS. ZELMAN, SO YOU'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT -- SOME RESEARCH,
04:06:07 A LOT OF RESEARCH, SOME RESEARCH.
04:06:10 WHAT ARE YOU SEEING OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING ON THIS ISSUE
04:06:14 OF CITY EMPLOYMENT OR MUNICIPAL EMPLOYMENT, NUMBER ONE?
04:06:17 NUMBER TWO, HAS ANYBODY TAKEN THE NEXT STEP IN TERMS OF
04:06:24 TRYING TO ADDRESS THE SAME ISSUE ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR
04:06:28 WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY?
04:06:36 TO ME THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IF WE WANT TO
04:06:39 MAKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPEN.
04:06:40 GOING TO THE THIRD QUESTION, WHAT MR. GUDES BROUGHT UP
04:06:43 ABOUT HOUSING, DID YOUR RESEARCH GO INTO THAT HOUSING
04:06:48 ISSUE?
04:06:49 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: TO BE HONEST, WHEN WE STARTED THIS
04:06:53 RESEARCH, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE
04:06:57 LOOKING FOR.
04:06:58 TO DATE, I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING YET ON HOW OTHER CITIES
04:07:02 AND COUNTIES HAVE THESE SORT OF MEASURES IN THEIR HIRING
04:07:07 PRACTICES, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
04:07:11 I FORGET WHAT YOUR SECOND QUESTION.
04:07:13 THE THIRD QUESTION WITH REGARD TO HOUSING, WE DO HAVE
04:07:15 MS. McCLEARY AND RACHEL PETERKIN OF OUR OFFICE TO TALK
04:07:19 A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT.
04:07:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE PRIVATE SECTOR, DO WE EVEN HAVE
04:07:25 THE POWER OR ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE SAME ISSUE IN THE
04:07:29 PRIVATE SECTOR AS RELATED TO EMPLOYMENT?
04:07:32 SORT OF BAN THE BOX FOR EVERYBODY, AND THEN THE THIRD
04:07:40 QUESTION, AS RELATED TO HOUSING -- ACTUALLY, I GUESS FOUR
04:07:46 QUESTIONS.
04:07:47 THE THIRD AND FOURTH QUESTION WOULD BE ON THE PUBLIC
04:07:50 HOUSING SIDE, AND THEN PUBLIC, I'D SAY, MAYBE HOUSING
04:07:56 THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN
04:07:59 THE NEXT LEVEL WOULD BE THE PRIVATE SECTOR RENTAL
04:08:03 HOUSING.
04:08:04 ANYWAY, I GUESS ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION.
04:08:11 I JUST THINK WE NEED TO RESEARCH OUR OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT
04:08:15 OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE AND LET YOU COME BACK.
04:08:19 WHEN WE HAVE A FULL BOARD AND A LITTLE MORE TIME TO
04:08:22 DISCUSS ALL FOUR OF THOSE ISSUES TO SEE WHERE WE WANT TO
04:08:25 GO WITH THEM.
04:08:30 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WOULD ALSO ADD, SOME OF THESE ISSUES
04:08:32 TOUCH ON THE WORK THAT OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION DOES
04:08:35 AS WELL. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, RACHEL IS PREPARED TO
04:08:38 TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
04:08:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROBABLY ENFORCEABLE BY THE SAME
04:08:42 GROUPS, I GUESS.
04:08:45 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, GENTLEMEN?
04:08:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID SHE'S WITH HUMAN RIGHTS
04:08:50 DIVISION, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE --
04:08:53 >>LUIS VIERA: COME UP, MA'AM, IF YOU'D LIKE.
04:08:56 >> I'M WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
04:08:58 I'M ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
04:08:59 RIGHT NOW I'M SUPPORTING VANESSA.
04:09:02 RACHEL PETERKIN.
04:09:03 I SUPPORT VANESSA'S DIVISION, WHICH DOES HOUSING AND ALSO
04:09:10 WITHIN HER DIVISION IS OUR OFFICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS.
04:09:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
04:09:16 ANYTHING ELSE, GENTLEMEN?
04:09:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, MR. BENNETT,
04:09:20 DID YOU COME JOIN US ON THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY OR JUST
04:09:22 COINCIDENCE?
04:09:27 >> [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
04:09:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'RE GLAD YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT OUT
04:09:40 THERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
04:09:40 [ LAUGHTER ]
04:09:41 MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THOSE --
04:09:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, SURE, SURE.
04:09:51 LET ME IF I MAY, BEFORE THAT, IF I MAY, SIR, JUST A
04:09:54 COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON THIS, THIS IS AN IDEA THAT I
04:09:56 STRONGLY SUPPORT.
04:09:57 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT TO BE WORKED OUT WITH REGARDS TO
04:10:00 LEGAL ISSUES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA AND WHATNOT.
04:10:03 BUT I THINK THE BASIC IDEA THAT PEOPLE DESERVE SECOND
04:10:06 CHANCES AND COMPASSION AND MERCY AND THAT THE CITY OUGHT
04:10:10 TO BE TAKING AN AGGRESSIVE STANCE OF SOLIDARITY AND AN
04:10:14 EXAMPLE WITH THAT, I SUPPORT THAT.
04:10:17 THE CITY, THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL CHARITIES AND
04:10:20 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE CITY CAN PARTNER WITH I
04:10:23 BELIEVE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL WAY, BECAUSE MANY OF THESE
04:10:25 ARE RELIGIOUS, LIKE ABE BROWN MINISTRIES, FOR EXAMPLE,
04:10:29 THAT DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB REACHING OUT TO ALL PEOPLE
04:10:32 REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGIOUS FAITH AND TO HELP RESTORE
04:10:36 PEOPLE, RESTORE THEM EMOTIONALLY, SPIRITUALLY,
04:10:40 ECONOMICALLY, AND MAKE THE KIND OF DIFFERENCE THAT THEY
04:10:43 NEED TO MAKE.
04:10:44 WE COULD ALSO THINK ABOUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY
04:10:47 HAVING POTENTIALLY SOME SORT OF A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR
04:10:51 EX-FELONS WHO MAYBE WANT TO COME ON AND HAVE TRAINING FOR
04:10:55 SOMETHING TO PUT ON THEIR RESUMÉ, FOR EXAMPLE.
04:10:58 SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE OR ENCOURAGING CONTRACTORS TO DO
04:11:03 THE SAME.
04:11:05 I KNOW I MENTIONED BRIEFLY BEFORE THE ISSUE OF
04:11:08 APPRENTICESHIPS, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED FOR A WIDE
04:11:10 VARIETY OF FOLKS TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT PATHWAY AND THAT
04:11:13 LADDER TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
04:11:14 I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN
04:11:16 OUR TOOLBOX THAT CAN PROMOTE COMPASSION AND BASIC HUMAN
04:11:20 DECENCY ON THIS ISSUE.
04:11:22 I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
04:11:23 SIR, I THINK YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION, SIR.
04:11:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
04:11:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY
04:11:31 PRESENT --
04:11:31 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:11:33 I KEEP ON FORGETTING.
04:11:35 IS ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 15?
04:11:38 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
04:11:40 THANK YOU, SIR.
04:11:41 MOTION, SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE.
04:11:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THOSE ARE GREAT COMMENTS,
04:11:45 MR. CHAIRMAN, AS WELL, AND YOU REMINDED ME, WHEN CONNIE
04:11:49 BURTON WAS UP AT THE PODIUM EARLIER TODAY, SHE SPOKE TO
04:11:52 THE FACT THAT IT'S GREAT THAT WE'VE GOT CRIME DOWN, BUT
04:11:57 HAND IN HAND WITH THAT, WE INCARCERATE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
04:12:01 WE CAN'T SOLVE THAT PART OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
04:12:04 SITTING UP HERE, ESPECIALLY TODAY, BUT I THINK THAT IN
04:12:08 REGARD TO TRYING TO HELP ON THE BACK END AND REALLY KIND
04:12:13 OF HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT WE DID AS A STATE, TWO YEARS
04:12:18 AGO IN TERMS OF RESTORATION OF RIGHTS.
04:12:21 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT PASSED AND 60 SOMETHING
04:12:25 PERCENT OF THE STATE VOTERS AGREED THAT WE SHOULD RESTORE
04:12:29 PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY
04:12:34 ARE NONVIOLENT FELONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
04:12:40 ANYWAY, WITH THAT SAID, I'D JUST REQUEST THAT STAFF
04:12:44 ADDRESS THOSE FOUR ISSUES.
04:12:51 >> [INAUDIBLE]
04:12:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT THE FOUR ISSUES WERE.
04:12:57 >> HOUSING.
04:12:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IT'S HOUSING, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE,
04:13:01 AND THE CHECK BOX --
04:13:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BAN THE BOX.
04:13:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.
04:13:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WORKFORCE HOUSING.
04:13:11 CONTRACTS.
04:13:21 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WHAT I WROTE DOWN WAS HOUSING, CITY
04:13:24 CONTRACTING, THE CITY'S OWN HIRING AND ANYTHING THE CITY
04:13:31 CAN DO WITH REGARD TO PRIVATE SECTOR HIRING PRACTICES.
04:13:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALSO PRIVATE SECTOR HOUSING PRACTICES.
04:13:38 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS, AND THEY ARE
04:13:47 PROBABLY RULED BY FEDERAL LAWS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I
04:13:50 WOULD THINK.
04:13:55 >> WHEN THEY CHANGED THE LAW, THEY ACTUALLY MADE IT SO
04:13:58 THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES COULD NO LONGER
04:14:00 DISCRIMINATE.
04:14:00 THERE WAS A POLICY THAT HOUSING AUTHORITIES COULD NOT
04:14:04 RENT TO ANYONE THAT HAD A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.
04:14:07 YES, THAT CHANGED.
04:14:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE A NICE PLACE TO LOOK AT
04:14:12 FOR GUIDANCE.
04:14:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, VANESSA.
04:14:18 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
04:14:19 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:14:21 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:14:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FEBRUARY -- [INAUDIBLE]
04:14:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 9:30 A.M.?
04:14:36 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
04:14:37 WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:14:39 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:14:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD WE HAVE THAT THE FIRST ITEM FOR
04:14:44 THE WORKSHOP.
04:14:45 THAT WAY PEOPLE WANT TO COME, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT
04:14:48 LIKE THIS EVENING.
04:14:49 >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE.
04:14:52 WE WILL LIKELY HAVE A LOT OF PASSIONATE PEOPLE ON THE
04:14:56 ISSUE.
04:14:56 WE WILL HAVE THAT DIRECTED AS ITEM NUMBER 1.
04:14:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR,
04:15:02 AFTER CEREMONIAL SO YOU'LL TRANSPOSE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN
04:15:05 ITEM PRESENTLY SET FOR 9:00, MOVE THAT TO 9:30 THEN TO
04:15:09 MAKE THAT THE SECOND ITEM.
04:15:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:15:11 THERE YOU GO.
04:15:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID WE VOTE?
04:15:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, WE DID.
04:15:18 NEXT, REPORTS, MOTIONS, ET CETERA.
04:15:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:15:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO SING "I'M THE WANDERER"
04:15:34 BY DION, BUT I THOUGHT I'D SPARE YOU GUYS.
04:15:39 I'VE GOT A MOTION THAT -- A MOTION RESPECTFULLY
04:15:45 REQUESTING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION FIND SOME MONEY IN THE
04:15:48 BUDGET TO BUY THE BIKE LIGHTS THAT ARE NEEDED BY TPD
04:15:53 PURSUANT TO THAT DISCUSSION THAT WAS MANY HOURS AGO.
04:15:57 WHEN THE CHIEF SAID, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND
04:16:01 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LIGHTS, THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE, REALLY?
04:16:03 WELL, LET'S FIND A FEW THOUSAND BUCKS AND GET THESE
04:16:07 PEOPLE LIGHTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE.
04:16:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S MADE A DIFFERENCE.
04:16:11 YOU SAW THE NUMBERS.
04:16:12 REDUCES THE STOPS, REASON FOR STOPPING.
04:16:15 I'LL SECOND THAT.
04:16:16 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:16:18 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:16:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:16:20 ANY OPPOSED?
04:16:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE NEXT ONE, I'M TRYING TO BE
04:16:25 SENSITIVE TO CHIEF DUGAN, THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE
04:16:30 AN ANNUAL REPORT ON BIKE STOPS, BUT WE WOULD MODIFY IT
04:16:33 JUST TO BE A WRITTEN REPORT ANNUALLY IN THE FIRST REGULAR
04:16:39 MEETING OF OCTOBER, INCLUDING GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.
04:16:44 THAT WAY, IF WE GET THE WRITTEN REPORT AND WE HAVE
04:16:47 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, WE CAN ALWAYS CALL HIM BACK.
04:16:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:16:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:16:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:16:55 ANY OPPOSED?
04:16:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN, FINALLY, MS. COYLE INDICATED
04:17:00 THAT REALLY TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOP TO
04:17:10 COUNCIL, THAT SHE MIGHT NEED UP TO ABOUT AN HOUR TO
04:17:13 REALLY TEACH US ABOUT THE TREE CODE AND HOW IT WORKS AND
04:17:18 HOW IT GOT TO WHERE IT IS.
04:17:25 ALSO SHE WOULD BE REPORTING THE NUMBERS.
04:17:27 SHE SAID THE NUMBERS AREN'T THERE YET BUT EVENTUALLY SHE
04:17:30 WILL HAVE THE NUMBERS.
04:17:30 I WOULD REQUEST IN THAT FEBRUARY -- THE 27th?
04:17:36 FEBRUARY 27th WORKSHOP AS ITEM NUMBER 3, 10:00, THAT WE
04:17:43 WOULD HEAR FROM MS. COYLE ABOUT THE TREE CODE AND GET A
04:17:48 REPORT TO US ON THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN BECAUSE OF
04:17:54 THE NEW ORDINANCE OR UNDER THE NEW ORDINANCE.
04:17:57 I'D ALSO LIKE HER TO COMPARE THAT TO TREES IN THE PRIOR
04:18:04 YEAR SO WE HAVE A BENCHMARK AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AND SEE
04:18:08 WHAT'S HAPPENING UNDER THE NEW ORDINANCE.
04:18:10 LIKE LAST YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
04:18:13 AND THEN ALSO, IF LEGAL ALLOWS US TO TALK ABOUT IT AT
04:18:17 THIS POINT IN FEBRUARY, TO DISCUSS THE STATUTE AND GIVE
04:18:22 US THE TREE NUMBERS LOST DUE TO THE STATUTE.
04:18:28 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:18:31 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:18:32 WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:18:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A HOUSE BILL 1159?
04:18:38 I HAVE THE NUMBER RIGHT, I WANT TO KNOW IF REFERENCE --
04:18:41 [INAUDIBLE]
04:18:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
04:18:44 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
04:18:45 ANY OPPOSED?
04:18:46 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:18:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE MORE
04:18:51 THING.
04:18:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MENTIONED THAT AN HOUR HE THINKS
04:18:55 WOULD BE REQUIRED.
04:18:56 DO YOU WANT THAT SET FOR AN HOUR AND THE NEXT ONE
04:18:58 WOULDN'T COME IN AT 10:30, MAKE IT 11 --
04:19:05 >> SET IT FOR AN HOUR.
04:19:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN PARENTHESES, SET IT FOR AN HOUR.
04:19:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
04:19:12 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING?
04:19:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, I'M NOT SURE, I KNOW WE MADE
04:19:17 A MOTION AT THE CRA MEETING FOR THE FAIR OAKS TO COME
04:19:20 BACK IN DECEMBER.
04:19:23 SANDY SENT A LETTER TO MY OFFICE SAYING NEEDED IT FOR
04:19:26 DECEMBER 12.
04:19:27 MAKE THAT MOTION AND MAKE SURE THAT'S PUT ON THERE.
04:19:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] -- COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
04:19:35 SESSION.
04:19:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SUPPOSED TO BE FOR --
04:19:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE.
04:19:38 THAT WAS A CRA ISSUE FOR DECEMBER, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT
04:19:43 HAS TO BE CORRECTED FROM DECEMBER 14th TO
04:19:46 DECEMBER 12th.
04:19:47 MY SUGGESTION WOULD THAT BE -- WOULD BE THAT -- ARE YOU
04:19:55 ABLE TO DO THAT NOW, IF IT WAS A MOTION AT THE CRA TO
04:19:58 CORRECT A CRA DATE.
04:20:00 IT'S A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
04:20:02 >> [INAUDIBLE]
04:20:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE PREVIOUS
04:20:18 MOTION I MADE REGARDING THE NEEDS -- [INDISCERNIBLE] --
04:20:19 PLAN FOR -- [INDISCERNIBLE] -- PARK, PRESENTED AT THE CRA
04:20:19 MEETING OF DECEMBER 12, 2019.
04:20:20 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:20:22 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:20:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:20:24 ANY OPPOSED?
04:20:25 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, ANYTHING?
04:20:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
04:20:34 I GUESS IT'S A RETROACTIVE MOTION.
04:20:39 I PRESENTED A COMMENDATION FOR THE TASTE OF LATINO
04:20:43 FESTIVAL.
04:20:44 LAST MINUTE THING.
04:20:45 I GAVE IT TO THEM.
04:20:46 I'M HERE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND APPROVAL OF THE
04:20:49 COMMENDATION.
04:20:49 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION AND SECOND.
04:20:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:20:52 ANY OPPOSED?
04:20:53 20 HAIL MARYS.
04:20:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
04:20:58 A COMMENDATION TO THE FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA EVENT IS GOING
04:21:01 TO BE NOVEMBER 10.
04:21:03 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:21:06 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:21:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:21:08 ANY OPPOSED?
04:21:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST ONE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
04:21:12 MOTION THAT ON NOVEMBER 21st, WE PRESENT A COMMENDATION
04:21:16 TO SENATOR ARTHENIA JOYNER FOR HER 50th ANNIVERSARY I
04:21:22 BELIEVE OF BECOMING A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA BAR AND ALL
04:21:25 THAT.
04:21:25 I'D LIKE TO BRING HER HERE.
04:21:27 WE'LL HAVE SOME SPECIAL GUESTS THAT DAY.
04:21:29 I BELIEVE SENATOR JANET CRUZ WILL BE JOINING AND OTHERS.
04:21:33 I'LL FIND OUT CLOSER TO THE DATE.
04:21:35 NOVEMBER 21st AT 9 A.M.
04:21:38 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:21:40 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:21:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:21:44 ANY OPPOSED?
04:21:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
04:21:45 >>BILL CARLSON: REGARDING THE BOAT ISSUE FROM THIS
04:21:47 MORNING, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF COME BACK
04:21:51 TO US WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE LANGUAGE REGARDING
04:21:56 LIMITING OVERNIGHT PARKING OF BOATS AND NON-MOTOR
04:22:02 VEHICLES.
04:22:02 CAN WE DO IT ON JANUARY 9th?
04:22:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS OR IN
04:22:09 GENERAL?
04:22:09 >>BILL CARLSON: RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
04:22:11 THEY'LL COME BACK TO US WITH A PROPOSAL AND THEN WE CAN
04:22:13 DISCUSS IT THEN.
04:22:14 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:22:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SOMEBODY YELLING
04:22:19 OUTSIDE I THINK.
04:22:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:22:21 ANY OPPOSED?
04:22:22 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:22:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, REGARDING THE LEAF BLOWERS, MAYBE I
04:22:27 SHOULD MAKE THIS TWO DIFFERENT ONES OR TELL ME IF YOU
04:22:29 WANT TO COMBINE THEM, THE SAME THING JUST FOR STAFF TO
04:22:32 COME BACK AND RECOMMEND TO US PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO LIMIT
04:22:36 THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR LEAF BLOWERS, SIMILAR TO THE
04:22:42 CONSTRUCTION HOURS.
04:22:44 THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE OR
04:22:47 STRENGTHEN THE LANGUAGE RELATED TO BLOWING LEAFS ON THE
04:22:50 STREET.
04:22:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:22:53 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:22:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:22:57 >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY 9th.
04:22:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WAS THE FIRST MOTION?
04:23:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOUNDED LIKE ONE MOTION WITH TWO
04:23:06 SUBJECTS.
04:23:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WAS THE MOTION BEFORE THAT ONE?
04:23:08 >>BILL CARLSON: OVERNIGHT PARKING OF BOATS.
04:23:10 THEY'LL COME BACK WITH PROPOSED LANGUAGE AND THEN WE CAN
04:23:17 DEBATE AND DISCUSS IT THEN.
04:23:18 YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT?
04:23:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I'LL LEAVE IT.
04:23:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU JUST VOTED TO HEAR IT.
04:23:25 ONE MORE -- MAYBE TWO MORE QUICK ONES.
04:23:28 THE TREE TRUST FUND, I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF IT.
04:23:31 A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC ARE ASKING.
04:23:33 I'D LIKE TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON
04:23:38 WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TREE TRUST FUND AUDIT AND LET US
04:23:41 KNOW HOW THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED.
04:23:43 CAN WE DO THAT ON DECEMBER 19th DOESN'T HAVE MUCH.
04:23:48 JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
04:23:50 OTHERWISE WE CAN DO IT IN JANUARY.
04:23:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
04:23:57 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GREAT.
04:24:01 ANY SECONDS ON THAT?
04:24:01 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HALFHEARTED
04:24:06 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES -- I'M JOKING.
04:24:09 ALL IN FAVOR --
04:24:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK YOU WITH REGARD TO THAT, WHO
04:24:15 FROM STAFF DO YOU WANT?
04:24:16 >>BILL CARLSON: SHE SAID PARKS.
04:24:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT PART OF THE MOTION, PARKS?
04:24:21 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
04:24:25 THE LAST THING, YOU REMINDED IN TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE
04:24:28 WITH PAST CRIMINAL RECORDS, WE ALMOST INCLUDED THAT IN
04:24:31 THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND IT WAS TAKEN OUT BY
04:24:33 SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
04:24:34 BUT IT REMINDED ME THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE
04:24:37 CHARTER THAT WE ADDED THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED.
04:24:43 ONE OF THEM AT ONE BASIC ONE IS WE REQUIRED CITY COUNCIL
04:24:48 TO DESIGNATE TWO TYPES OF SENSITIVITY TRAINING FOR ALL
04:24:53 EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.
04:24:55 WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.
04:24:57 WE HAVEN'T DESIGNATED IT YET.
04:24:59 I DON'T KNOW THE SOONEST WE CAN HAVE.
04:25:01 THAT'S SOMETHING BY CHARTER TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE OF THE
04:25:04 CHARTER WE NEED TO DO ASAP.
04:25:06 I'D LIKE TO PASS A MOTION FOR HR TO COME BACK AND GIVE US
04:25:12 A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT KIND OF TRAINING PROGRAMS WE
04:25:17 SHOULD IMPLEMENT TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CHARTER
04:25:20 AMENDMENT.
04:25:20 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, BECAUSE I HAD THIS HEARD LAST
04:25:25 YEAR.
04:25:25 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOR THAT, ARE YOU LOOKING AT
04:25:28 JUST HR OR POLICE AND FIRE?
04:25:31 IN OTHER WORDS, ALL CITY EMPLOYEES?
04:25:34 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S ALL CITY EMPLOYEES.
04:25:36 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR MY MEMORY SERVED ME RIGHT, YOU NEEDED
04:25:39 SOMEBODY FROM POLICE AND FIRE, JUST TO HAVE YOUR OFFICE
04:25:43 LOOK INTO THAT.
04:25:44 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE SOONEST?
04:25:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
04:25:55 >>BILL CARLSON: CHARTER AMENDMENTS WERE APPROVED ON
04:25:57 MAY 1st.
04:25:58 I DON'T KNOW.
04:25:59 LEGAL WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US ADVICE.
04:26:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] SOMETHING THAT MR. TERRITO I
04:26:15 KNOW WAS FAMILIAR WITH.
04:26:17 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT A REPORT FROM LEGAL ON THAT
04:26:20 SUBJECT MATTER, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CHARTER
04:26:22 CHANGES.
04:26:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, SEPARATELY.
04:26:24 ONE, WE NEED FEEDBACK ON THE TRAINING PROGRAMS BECAUSE
04:26:28 THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO TAKE ACTION ON.
04:26:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DIDN'T VOTE YET.
04:26:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT HR,
04:26:36 POLICE, FIRE, WHOMEVER NECESSARY COME BACK AND TELL US
04:26:39 HOW WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW
04:26:42 AMENDMENT.
04:26:42 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:26:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE AMENDMENT SPECIFIC TO THE TRAINING
04:26:46 OF CITY EMPLOYEES.
04:26:49 >>LUIS VIERA: MS. ZELLMAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?
04:26:51 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WAS GOING TO ADD, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO
04:26:55 KEEP THE HR, THE SENSITIVITY TRAINING PIECE SEPARATE.
04:26:58 IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE
04:27:01 CHARTER CHANGES MADE AND TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S ANY
04:27:03 OTHER ACTION ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED, WE'D BE
04:27:06 GLAD TO UNDERTAKE THAT.
04:27:07 I WAS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
04:27:12 I THINK I JUST VOLUNTEERED.
04:27:14 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:27:19 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE.
04:27:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:27:22 ANY OPPOSED?
04:27:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO DECEMBER 19 DATE.
04:27:25 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THAT'S OKAY.
04:27:26 SECONDLY OR SECOND ON THAT PART -- YEAH, DIFFERENT
04:27:32 MOTION.
04:27:33 I'M TIRED HERE.
04:27:35 I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK LEGAL TO GIVE US
04:27:39 ADVICE ON ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO IMPLEMENT THE
04:27:43 AMENDMENTS OF THE CHARTER THAT WERE APPROVED ON
04:27:45 MAY 1st.
04:27:46 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:27:48 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN -- DATE, DATE.
04:27:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THAT WOULD
04:27:54 TAKE.
04:27:55 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE DO THAT JANUARY 9th?
04:27:58 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:28:00 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:28:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:28:02 ANY OPPOSED?
04:28:03 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:28:04 VERY BRIEFLY, I MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION, I HAD MOTION FOR
04:28:07 COMMENDATION FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY PLANNING
04:28:10 COMMISSION FOR THE 60th ANNIVERSARY FOR COMMENDATION, A
04:28:13 MOTION THAT BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 21st, 2019.
04:28:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL
04:28:19 CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:28:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SUBJECT MATTER?
04:28:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL GIVE IT OVER THERE.
04:28:26 THE COMMENDATION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION 60th
04:28:30 ANNIVERSARY.
04:28:30 THEN JUST BRIEFLY, SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE HOUSING -- I WAS
04:28:38 GOING TO SAY BEFORE THAT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE SHOULD
04:28:41 TALK ABOUT PROCEDURE FOR THAT.
04:28:43 I WAS TALKING WITH MR. SHELBY ABOUT IT.
04:28:46 SINCE IT IS GOING TO BE IN YOUR DISTRICT, THE WAY I SEE
04:28:48 IT, IF YOU WANT PROCEDURALLY, I'M CHAIR OF IT, IF YOU
04:28:52 WANT TO TAKE CHARGE AND LEAD, MY FRIEND, IT'S YOUR
04:28:56 DISTRICT.
04:28:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT A MATTER ABOUT WHO LEADS AS LONG
04:29:01 AS WE'RE THERE FOR THE PEOPLE TO GET THE JOB DONE?
04:29:04 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT EMCEEING, BUT
04:29:09 INTRODUCING --
04:29:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL OPEN IT UP AND THEN MAKE OUR
04:29:13 INTRODUCTIONS SO KNOW WHO WE ARE, WHY WE'RE HERE AND THEN
04:29:16 GO FROM THERE.
04:29:17 I'M VERY HUMBLED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID COME THROUGH
04:29:22 AND THINGS ARE STARTING TO REALLY, REALLY UNWIND NOW.
04:29:26 IT WILL BE A YOUNG MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL, ADDRESS IS 1807
04:29:32 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD RIGHT IN THE HEART
04:29:35 OF EAST TAMPA, 9 TO 10.
04:29:39 COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INSIDE OF THE CAFETERIA AT 9:00.
04:29:43 PARKING FOR US WILL BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING
04:29:46 BY THE CAFETERIA, 20th STREET. THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT
04:29:53 WILL BE HAVING THEIR SYMPOSIUM WITH VENDORS AND THE EAST
04:29:58 TAMPA PARTNERSHIP, THEY ARE DOING SOME STUFF, TOO.
04:30:01 OVERFLOWING WITH VENDORS AND THEY HAVE TO CUT IT OFF
04:30:04 BECAUSE EVERYBODY NOW WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE HOUSING
04:30:06 THING.
04:30:07 WE'RE BRINGING WHAT WE HAVE TO THE PEOPLE SO THERE SHOULD
04:30:09 BE NO EXCUSES FOR NO ONE WHO NEEDS HOUSING OR NEEDS
04:30:15 INFORMATION, REFERENCE TO OWNER REHAB, ANY TYPE OF
04:30:19 FUNDING LENDING.
04:30:21 ANY TYPE OF FUNDING AS FAR AS DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE
04:30:24 FROM THE CITY.
04:30:26 THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
04:30:28 I'M HOPING THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY COMES OUT AND
04:30:31 HOPEFULLY EVERY COUNCILMAN CAN MAKE IT.
04:30:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, JUST TO FOLLOW-UP, COUNCILMAN
04:30:39 GUDES, I DON'T BELIEVE WHETHER MS. McCLEARY GAVE
04:30:42 EVERYBODY THE PROGRAM FOR WHAT IS COMING.
04:30:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS SHE WAS LEAVING, SHE WAS SHOWING --
04:30:49 I'M SURE SHE'LL HAVE IT TO US TOMORROW.
04:30:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SAW A DRAFT.
04:30:55 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN ITINERARY, TIMING.
04:30:58 COUNCIL IS SCHEDULED FOR A ONE-HOUR TOWN HALL MEETING
04:31:01 FROM 9 A.M. TO 10 A.M.
04:31:03 THE PROCESS BEGINS IN THE GYMNASIUM AT 9:00 AS WELL.
04:31:07 IT WILL BE AN OVERLAP OF THAT.
04:31:09 BUT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ATTEND CITY COUNCIL'S TOWN HALL
04:31:12 FOR AN HOUR ARE ENTITLED TO DO THAT.
04:31:15 ALSO, COUNCIL -- [INAUDIBLE]
04:31:26 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THAT ALL Q & A?
04:31:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
04:31:31 I WOULD THINK SO.
04:31:33 BEFORE -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, JUST ONE SECOND, IF I
04:31:36 MAY, IS THERE A FLIER ON THIS?
04:31:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:31:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS.
04:31:43 LAST WEEK, I PUT THE NOTICE OF THAT, PUBLIC NOTICE WITH
04:31:50 THE FLIER IN COUNCIL MEMBERS' MAILBOX.
04:31:53 IT HAS BEEN POSTED.
04:31:55 IT IS A NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING.
04:31:56 I WILL BE THERE TO TAKE MINUTES.
04:31:58 IT WILL BE FROM 9:00 TO 10:00.
04:32:00 FROM 10:00, THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, THE
04:32:06 WORKSHOP, THE FAIR WILL CONTINUE IN THE GYMNASIUM.
04:32:09 AND MY UNDERSTANDING AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROGRAM, THE
04:32:12 FINAL PROGRAM BUT THE MAYOR WILL BE THERE TO SPEAK AS
04:32:17 WELL TO WELCOME PEOPLE.
04:32:18 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE SOMETHING IN FOREST HILLS AND
04:32:21 NEBRASKA I HAVE TO GO TO AT ABOUT 11.
04:32:23 I CAN STAY FOR ABOUT 70% OF IT.
04:32:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:32:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT LOOKS LIKE MY PLAN IS TO BE THERE
04:32:30 FROM 9 TO 11.
04:32:32 SOUNDS LIKE I'LL HEAR THE MAYOR SPEAK AS WELL.
04:32:35 BUT MY QUESTION IS IN TERMS OF FORMAT.
04:32:37 ARE WE SITTING AT A DAIS OR TABLE?
04:32:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S A TABLE.
04:32:44 EIGHT CHAIRS.
04:32:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE A PROGRAM PRESENTED TO US
04:32:52 OR THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE COMMUNITY OR IS, AS
04:32:57 MR. CHAIRMAN SAID A MINUTE AGO, WE SIT THERE AND TAKE
04:33:00 QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THEM.
04:33:03 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WOULD BE NICE, AS A LEADOFF, IF
04:33:07 VANESSA IS AVAILABLE, SHE'S GIVEN US SORT OF A 20-MINUTE
04:33:15 OVERVIEW ON WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN TERMS OF HOUSING
04:33:18 AND THE CRA NOW IN TERMS OF HOUSING.
04:33:21 MAYBE SHE COULD LEAD OFF WITH THAT SO WE'D HAVE A LITTLE
04:33:24 MEAT ON THE BONES, AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.
04:33:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DID A WALK-THROUGH WITH VANESSA AND
04:33:32 HER STAFF AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ON TUESDAY.
04:33:35 I WILL TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER SCHEDULE IS, BUT,
04:33:40 BOY, SHE HAS A LOT ON HER PLATE.
04:33:43 I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG SHE HAD BE ABLE TO SPEND BECAUSE
04:33:46 THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS GOING INTO THE PROJECT.
04:33:54 >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE WE COULD HAVE LIKE A PROPOSED OUTLINE
04:33:57 WHERE THERE'S INTRODUCTION BY THE CITY, 45-SECOND
04:34:00 INTRODUCTION BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEN WE HEAR FROM
04:34:03 THE PUBLIC.
04:34:03 BUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE -- I'M JUST THINKING OF HOW I
04:34:07 DO TOWN HALLS.
04:34:08 USUALLY ONE PERSON WITH A MIKE.
04:34:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE GET UP FOR A PRESENTATION, I
04:34:16 THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT TO PRECEDE THE QUESTIONS
04:34:19 FROM THE COMMUNITY.
04:34:20 OTHERWISE WE'LL NEVER GET THERE.
04:34:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE HAS A BUNCH OF STAFF PEOPLE THERE.
04:34:26 I MET A BUNCH LAST NIGHT.
04:34:28 EVERYBODY FROM HOUSING WILL BE THERE.
04:34:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROCEED TO MAKE
04:34:34 CONTACT WITH HER.
04:34:35 >>LUIS VIERA: IN TERMS OF THE PROCEDURE, I CAN HAVE
04:34:41 BRANDON WORK WITH SONYA ON THAT IN TERMS OF HOW TO RUN IT
04:34:44 LIKE A TOWN HALL.
04:34:46 I'M OPEN.
04:34:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY AT 9:00 AT AL
04:34:53 LOPEZ PARK, AND THEN I'LL BE DOWN THERE.
04:34:55 I WILL BE THERE.
04:34:57 I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT LATE BUT THEN I'LL STICK AROUND.
04:34:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY AT THE END OF
04:35:02 THE TOWN HALL, YOU IN IT BUT THE -- YOU KNOW IT BUT
04:35:06 PROBABLY THE PUBLIC DOES NOT, THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES
04:35:09 APPLY.
04:35:09 THE COUNCIL DOES TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
04:35:12 IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SUNSHINE LAW.
04:35:15 AFTER YOU END THE TOWN HALL AND CIRCULATE WITH THE PUBLIC
04:35:19 AND TALK, YOU JUST HAVE TO REMAIN CONSCIOUS, PEOPLE WOULD
04:35:23 LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU AT ONE TIME, BUT
04:35:27 UNFORTUNATELY THE LAW WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT.
04:35:29 IT WILL BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE
04:35:31 COGNIZANT OF THE SUNSHINE LAW REQUIREMENTS AFTER THE TOWN
04:35:34 HALL IS OVER.
04:35:35 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH MR. SHELBY,
04:35:39 NOT TO KEEP US TOO DARN LONG, COUNCILMAN GUDES, I LOVE
04:35:42 THIS IDEA, WE SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING GLOBAL COUNCIL
04:35:47 MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
04:35:49 I'D LOVE TO SEE ONE FOR OUR FRIENDS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
04:35:52 WEST TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA,
04:35:56 ET CETERA OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
04:35:58 I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.
04:35:59 MY CONSTITUENTS ARE SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING ME.
04:36:02 PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR -- JUST A GOOD IDEA.
04:36:07 ANYTHING ELSE?
04:36:08 >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:36:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE ONE ITEM THAT I'LL DIRECT YOUR
04:36:12 ATTENTION TO THE CALENDAR, THE NOVEMBER 7th CALENDAR,
04:36:15 YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF
04:36:20 HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS, I NOTICED IT THIS MORNING.
04:36:24 THE FIRST ITEM HAS AN UNKNOWN TIME.
04:36:28 I'M GOING TO ASK, IT'S A TAMPA BAY WATER AND S.W.F.W.M.D.
04:36:30 TO MAKE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THEIR PLANS FOR A
04:36:33 REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY FOR THE FUTURE.
04:36:35 THAT IS QUITE A LARGE SUBJECT.
04:36:40 THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
04:36:42 I'M WONDERING IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SET A TIME FOR THAT.
04:36:46 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS.
04:36:48 COUNCILMAN, YOU COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR THAT IN TERMS
04:36:50 OF TIME AND WHEN AND MAYBE YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO
04:36:53 US THIS EVENING.
04:36:54 CAN YOU DO THAT?
04:36:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK ANY SUBJECT PRESENTATION
04:36:59 SHOULD BE MORE THAN TEN MINUTES EACH.
04:37:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SET A 9:00 TIME AND DO IT --
04:37:04 >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE DO A HALF HOUR TOTAL, I THINK
04:37:07 THAT'S PLENTY.
04:37:08 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGENDA.
04:37:10 REMIND ME.
04:37:11 FORMALLY BRING IT TONIGHT AND HAVE THE AGENDA FOR THAT
04:37:13 DAY AND I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
04:37:15 I'M SURE THAT'S FINE.
04:37:16 MY MIND IS NOT WORKING --
04:37:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE ARE TEN STAFF REPORTS FOR THAT DAY
04:37:21 AS WELL.
04:37:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
04:37:26 >> [INAUDIBLE]
04:37:27 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
04:37:28 I THINK THAT WAS IT.
04:37:29 THANK EVERYBODY.
04:37:31 THIS WORKSHOP, WE HAD A LOT OF ONES.
04:37:34 AS THE SONG GOES, THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY.
04:37:38 >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:37:42 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
04:37:43 ANY OPPOSED?
04:37:43 6 P.M.
04:37:45 COUNCIL IS IN ADJOURNMENT.
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