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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2019
9:00 A.M.



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9:04:00AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

9:04:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.

9:04:02AM INVOCATION, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, PLEASE.

9:04:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

9:04:05AM IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME RETIRED AIR FORCE

9:04:08AM COLONEL TIM KEEPORTS WHO GREW UP IN TAMPA AND GRADUATED FROM

9:04:14AM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.

9:04:15AM HE IS CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

9:04:19AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE HEIGHTS

9:04:21AM URBAN CORE CHAMBER AND NOW WORKS AT CONCIERGE FINANCIAL

9:04:24AM ORGANIZATION IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

9:04:25AM IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN

9:04:28AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.

9:04:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:04:33AM IT IS AN HONOR TO ADDRESS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE

9:04:37AM CITIZENS PRESENT THIS MORNING.

9:04:38AM LET US TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO PAUSE AND TO REFLECT AND TO




9:04:44AM INVITE PEACE AND CALM TO ENTER THIS CHAMBER.

9:04:47AM OUR MINDS AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR HEARTS.

9:04:50AM LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU EXTEND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT INTO THIS ROOM

9:04:57AM AND ENVELOPE ALL OF US WITH YOUR UNFATHOMABLE WISDOM.

9:05:01AM AS EACH OF US WALK THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF TODAY, AND AS

9:05:05AM WE INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A COUNCIL STRIVE TO MAKE THE BEST

9:05:07AM DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, AND OUR FAMILIES,

9:05:14AM LEAD US TO BE STRONG, TO BE WISE, AND TO ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE

9:05:18AM HUMBLE.

9:05:20AM HELP US ALSO TO REFLECT POSITIVELY ON THE AMAZING MEN AND

9:05:24AM WOMEN SERVING CURRENTLY OR SERVING PREVIOUSLY IN OUR

9:05:28AM MILITARY AS WE THINK AND REFLECT AHEAD OF VETERANS DAY THIS

9:05:34AM COMING MONDAY.

9:05:35AM IT IS THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO LIVE

9:05:38AM PEACEFULLY IN THIS GREAT NATION.

9:05:41AM IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AND LIFT YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.

9:05:45AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

9:06:08AM [ NO ENCODER ]

9:06:25AM [ NO ENCODER ]

9:06:27AM >> APOLOGIES TO STAFF AND ANYBODY, BUT OVERNIGHT, I GOT A

9:06:30AM BUNCH OF CALLS AND E-MAILS ABOUT NUMBER 20, WHICH IS RELATED

9:06:33AM TO DRONES.

9:06:35AM IF POSSIBLE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

9:06:38AM I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AVAILABLE OR NOT.

9:06:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN PULL IT.




9:06:41AM I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE WITH THE TAMPA

9:06:44AM POLICE DEPARTMENT.

9:06:45AM I HIGHLY DOUBT WE CAN GET SOMEBODY HERE.

9:06:47AM IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION, WE CAN DO

9:06:50AM THAT.

9:06:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY.

9:06:52AM THAT JUST CAME OVERNIGHT.

9:06:54AM NUMBER 56, I PREVIOUSLY SAID I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT JUST

9:06:58AM SO THAT WE CAN SEPARATELY DISCUSS THAT INSTEAD OF BEING ON

9:07:01AM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

9:07:01AM AND THEN 103, I PROPOSE MOVING THAT ONE TO MARCH 5th.

9:07:11AM THE REASON THAT I SAID IN MY MEMO IS THAT ORIGINALLY WE

9:07:16AM WANTED THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REPORT.

9:07:18AM SINCE THEN, THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEFT.

9:07:20AM THE IDEA IS TO WAIT UNTIL THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

9:07:23AM IS ON BOARD AND HAS TIME TO ANALYZE THE SITUATION AND HAS A

9:07:27AM LOOK AT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF A LARGER PLAN.

9:07:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

9:07:30AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT, SIR?

9:07:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT IT BE MOVED TO

9:07:36AM MARCH 5.

9:07:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

9:07:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:07:41AM ANY IN FAVOR?

9:07:43AM ANY OPPOSED?




9:07:43AM OKAY.

9:07:44AM ANYTHING ELSE.

9:07:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, WITH REGARD TO YOUR

9:07:48AM CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES IN TERMS OF HOUSE KEEPING, DID YOU

9:07:50AM WANT TO ADDRESS THAT?

9:07:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

9:07:53AM I KNOW OUR FRIENDS FROM DONATELLO ARE REQUESTING TO GO

9:07:56AM FIRST.

9:07:57AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

9:07:58AM WE'LL HAVE THAT.

9:07:59AM ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE THE WONDERFUL KAREN CLAY HERE.

9:08:02AM I WAS REQUESTING THAT SHE GO BEFORE FRIENDS WITH TAMPA BAY

9:08:05AM WATER.

9:08:07AM DO WE NEED A MOTION OF THAT?

9:08:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S PART OF YOUR APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND

9:08:12AM ADDENDUM.

9:08:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?

9:08:15AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:08:15AM ANYTHING ELSE?

9:08:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE MORE.

9:08:17AM I BELIEVE UNDER THE ADDENDUM, THERE WAS SOMETHING FROM

9:08:21AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO REGARDING ADDING A COMMENDATION TO THE

9:08:24AM FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA.

9:08:26AM SHOULD THAT ALSO BE ADDED TO THE CEREMONIAL AGENDA THEN?

9:08:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.




9:08:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

9:08:31AM THANK YOU.

9:08:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO,

9:08:33AM SIR.

9:08:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

9:08:35AM MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY

9:09:15AM COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY YEARS I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

9:09:19AM TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

9:09:20AM FOR MANY YEARS, WE HAVE GIVEN HUNDREDS, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF

9:09:23AM COMMENDATIONS.

9:09:25AM I CAN SAY THIS, STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, WHEN THIS

9:09:28AM CAME ABOUT, I WOULD SAY THIS IS IN THE TOP FIVE OF ANY

9:09:34AM COMMENDATION THAT I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF PRESENTING.

9:09:37AM AND THIS IS BECAUSE IT STARTED NOT BY US ASKING THEM.

9:09:42AM IT WAS THEM ASKING THEN MAYOR FREEDMAN THAT THEY WANT TO DO

9:09:45AM SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

9:09:47AM AND FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS, THE DONATELLO FAMILY FROM THE

9:09:52AM FAMOUS ITALIAN RESTAURANT.

9:09:55AM IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, YOU HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD MEAL.

9:09:58AM THEY STARTED THIS WITH THE BLESSING OF MAYOR FREEDMAN.

9:10:03AM HE JUST CALLED ME, ALSO BOBBY BOWDEN WAS THERE FROM DAY ONE.

9:10:08AM BOBBY COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.

9:10:10AM HE TOLD ME TO DO THE BEST I CAN WITHOUT HIM.

9:10:16AM THE FAMILY HAS DONE OUTSTANDING THINGS FOR 30 YEARS.

9:10:20AM EVERY THANKSGIVING DAY, THEY HAVE A DINNER AT THE




9:10:22AM RESTAURANT.

9:10:25AM LIKE TO PRESENT, FIRST OF ALL, HIS SON GINO AND LOVELY WIFE

9:10:29AM ALEXANDRIA.

9:10:30AM I'VE KNOWN KITTY.

9:10:33AM I HAVEN'T SEEN KITTY SINCE THE SKY LINERS.

9:10:37AM THEY WERE ONE OF THE BEST GROUPS THAT ALWAYS PLAYED ON

9:10:40AM SATURDAY AND VERY CLOSE TO WHAT IT WAS THEN, THE CENTER, AN

9:10:46AM OLD GROCERY STORE THERE.

9:10:47AM IT USED TO GET JAM-PACKED WITH TEENAGERS AND YOUNG MEN AND

9:10:52AM WOMEN.

9:10:52AM THE MUSIC IS FANTASTIC.

9:10:54AM SHE'S ALSO PART OF THE DONATELLO FAMILY AND SHE HAS A DUO

9:11:01AM WITH MAGEE.

9:11:03AM I DIDN'T SAY FOR THAT REASON.

9:11:11AM I SAID WE LOOK ALIKE.

9:11:12AM BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, 30,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

9:11:19AM SERVED BY THIS FAMILY ON THANKSGIVING THE LAST 30 YEARS.

9:11:23AM ABOUT A THOUSAND A YEAR.

9:11:26AM THAT LEAVES A WARM HEART IN MY MIND.

9:11:28AM MOST OF THE KIDS THAT COME THERE AND FAMILIES THAT COME IN

9:11:31AM ARE FOSTER CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES HELPING THEM OUT.

9:11:34AM SOMETIMES THEY ARE FORGOTTEN.

9:11:36AM ALONG WITH THEM, SOME OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB COME IN AND

9:11:38AM MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

9:11:41AM AND IT'S JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE THING THEY DO.




9:11:44AM NOT ONLY DO THEY SERVE FIRST-CLASS MEALS FOR THANKSGIVING

9:11:48AM DAY, BUT THEY ALSO GIVE THEM GIFTS.

9:11:50AM EVERY CHILD THAT COMES IN THERE GETS A GIFT ON THE WAY OUT.

9:11:54AM WE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.

9:11:55AM THEY CAME TO SEE MAYOR FREEDMAN, YOUR FATHER, GUIDO DID.

9:12:02AM NO RELATION.

9:12:03AM GUIDO, YOU RELATED TO GUIDO?

9:12:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ONE OF THE FIVE AND I THINK FOUR

9:12:08AM GUIDOS LEFT IN TAMPA.

9:12:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS

9:12:13AM OUT ON THAT.

9:12:14AM WHAT YOUR FATHER STARTED AND YOUR FAMILY, ALONG WITH YOUR

9:12:17AM LOVELY MOTHER ALEXANDRIA, IT'S AN AMAZING THING.

9:12:21AM I'M PROUD TO BE HERE TODAY AND READ PART OF THIS

9:12:23AM COMMENDATION.

9:12:24AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE DONATELLO'S

9:12:27AM ITALIAN RESTAURANT FOR THE GENEROSITY, CHARITABLE

9:12:31AM THANKSGIVING DINNERS EVERY YEAR TO FAMILIES OF THE

9:12:33AM COMMUNITY.

9:12:33AM THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE FAMILY SPEAKS VOLUMES OF THE VALUE

9:12:37AM AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS.

9:12:39AM WHAT YOU DO SOMETIMES ARE PEOPLE THAT WE FORGET ABOUT IT, IN

9:12:45AM ESSENCE, IN LIFE, REAL LIFE.

9:12:47AM AND WHAT YOU DO IS GIVE SOMEBODY HOPE, SOMEBODY ADMIRATION,

9:12:51AM SOMEBODY A STEP UP INSTEAD OF A PUSH DOWN.




9:12:54AM AND FOR THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE GRATIFIED BY ALL OF US.

9:12:57AM YOUR FAMILY HAS DONE OUTSTANDING WORK AND FOR MANY YEARS,

9:13:02AM AND VICTOR, HE'S YOUR BARBER.

9:13:06AM BUT WITH HAIR LIKE THIS HE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.

9:13:10AM BUT VICTOR HAS BEEN HELPING THEM ALONG WITH BOBBY BOWDEN AND

9:13:14AM MARVIN KNIGHT.

9:13:15AM THEY SHOW UP WITH A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY,

9:13:18AM WHO IF I NAME ONE, I'LL MISS THEM ALL.

9:13:21AM THEY SHOW UP TO HELP.

9:13:23AM WHEN YOU SERVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE, YOU NEED HELP.

9:13:27AM AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE RESTAURANT, TRY IT.

9:13:29AM YOU'LL GO BACK.

9:13:30AM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, IT'S MY HONOR TO REPRESENT

9:13:35AM THE FAMILY, THIS COMMENDATION, FOR WHAT YOUR FATHER STARTED,

9:13:39AM ALONG WITH YOUR MOTHER.

9:13:40AM SHE WAS BY HIS SIDE ALL THE WAY.

9:13:43AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.

9:13:45AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

9:13:51AM >> THANK YOU.

9:13:51AM WITHOUT TAKING TOO MUCH TIME, I JUST SAY A FEW WORDS.

9:13:59AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR SUPPORTING

9:14:03AM US FOR 35 YEARS.

9:14:05AM REALLY, WITHOUT THE PEOPLE, THE CITY SUPPORTING THE

9:14:08AM RESTAURANT, THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.

9:14:12AM LIKE MR. MIRANDA SAID, MY FATHER STARTED THIS EVENT ALONG




9:14:17AM WITH MS. FREEDMAN, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK

9:14:20AM TO THE CITY AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MOST NEEDY.

9:14:23AM THEY REALLY CREATED THE EVENT.

9:14:26AM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WITH ME HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL OVER

9:14:30AM THE YEARS IN CONTINUING IT, PRIMARILY FOR MY STEPMOTHER,

9:14:37AM ALEXANDRA, 30 MUSS YEARS, SHE'S REALLY BEEN THE DRIVING

9:14:43AM FORCE IN GROWING IT, MAKING IT BECOME THE EVENT THAT IT HAS.

9:14:47AM MAGEE DONATED TIME TO PLAY ON THANKSGIVING DAY FOR ALL OF

9:14:53AM THE VISITORS THAT COME TO THE RESTAURANT FOR 20 YEARS NOW.

9:14:59AM AND VICTOR HAS BEEN A VOLUNTEER WITH US FOR MANY YEARS ALSO.

9:15:04AM AGAIN, LIKE MR. MIRANDA SAID, TO FEED A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN

9:15:07AM ONE DAY, WE HAVE 50, 60, 70 VOLUNTEERS THAT SHOW UP EVERY

9:15:16AM YEAR WITHOUT US CALLING THEM OR ASKING THEM REPEATEDLY

9:15:20AM DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, FROM HIGH

9:15:23AM SCHOOL KIDS TO ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE, AGAIN, FROM

9:15:28AM ALL AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA, THAT COME IN AND HELP US MAKE

9:15:32AM THE EVENT POSSIBLE.

9:15:33AM WITHOUT THEM, WE'D STILL BE SERVING THANKSGIVING DAY DINNER.

9:15:38AM BY THE TIME NEXT THANKSGIVING CAME.

9:15:42AM SO, YES, THANK YOU AGAIN, PRIMARILY TO CITY OF TAMPA AND

9:15:46AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

9:15:49AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION.

9:15:53AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:16:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY FROM EXPERIENCE, IF YOU WANT

9:16:02AM TO LISTEN TO GOOD COMBO AND SOMETIMES A TRIO OVER THERE,




9:16:06AM MONDAY, TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, AT THE LOUNGE, KITTY AND

9:16:15AM ET AL.

9:16:16AM SHE IS FANTASTIC.

9:16:17AM I REMEMBER HER WHEN WE WERE TEENAGERS.

9:16:19AM SHE STILL LOOKS YOUNG.

9:16:21AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

9:16:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:16:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

9:16:23AM BEFORE YOU ALL GO, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN

9:16:26AM MANISCALCO.

9:16:27AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS

9:16:30AM TO OUR ATTENTION, DONATELLO FAMILY, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL

9:16:35AM THE HARD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU DO FOR THIS EVENT.

9:16:39AM ON A PERSONAL NOTE, IT'S BEEN A BIG THRILL FOR ME TO BE ON

9:16:42AM CITY COUNCIL OVER THE YEARS, BUT A BIGGER THRILL WAS THE

9:16:45AM OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AT MS. KITTY'S PIANO AND SING WITH HER,

9:16:53AM BECAUSE SHE IS A TRUE GEM, A TRUE LEGEND IN OUR COMMUNITY,

9:17:02AM AND WE LOVE HER AND I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SING.

9:17:06AM HER EARS PROBABLY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN OVER IT, BUT THANK

9:17:09AM YOU.

9:17:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:17:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I TRY TO GO ALMOST EVERY YEAR, AT

9:17:15AM LEAST FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, TO THE THANKSGIVING DAY THAT

9:17:17AM YOU DO.

9:17:18AM IT'S INSANE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU GIVE GIFTS TO, KIDS




9:17:23AM COMING THROUGH, CELEBRITIES COMING THROUGH, EVERYBODY

9:17:26AM GETTING A MEAL THERE AND TREATED WITH RESPECT THAT THEY CAN

9:17:29AM SIT DOWN AND ENJOY IT.

9:17:30AM MY FATHER DOESN'T MISS IT.

9:17:33AM YOU KNOW HIM.

9:17:34AM HE'S THERE REGULARLY.

9:17:35AM YOUR FATHER WAS A WONDERFUL PERSON AND I APPRECIATE ANYBODY

9:17:39AM NAMED GUIDO BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMMON.

9:17:41AM IT WAS ALWAYS WELCOMING OF EVERYBODY.

9:17:44AM IT'S ALWAYS A TREAT TO GO TO DONATELLO.

9:17:47AM YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'LL BUMP INTO.

9:17:49AM I MET ROBIN WILLIAMS THERE.

9:17:51AM MY FATHER MET COUNTLESS CELEBRITIES, SPORTS FIGURES.

9:17:54AM WHEN I USED TO GO TO MALIO'S ON DALE MABRY, YOU'D ALWAYS SEE

9:17:58AM SOMEBODY FAMOUS.

9:18:00AM YOU CAN'T BEAT DONATELLO.

9:18:02AM ITALIAN RESTAURANTS COME AND GO, BUT YOU ARE THE AUTHENTIC

9:18:06AM REAL DEAL BUT YOU ALWAYS FOCUS ON GIVING BACK.

9:18:09AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN WONDERFUL TO ME AND MY FAMILY AS FRIENDS,

9:18:13AM NOT JUST AS CUSTOMERS, SO I APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL

9:18:17AM THAT YOU DO EACH YEAR.

9:18:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

9:18:22AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

9:18:23AM THANK YOU.

9:18:25AM >> GRACIAS.




9:18:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCILMAN VIERA.

9:18:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

9:18:54AM IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY AND TO GIVE A TAMPA

9:18:57AM CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO OUR GOOD FRIENDS WITH SAFE AND

9:19:00AM SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.

9:19:01AM I SEE HERE OUR GOOD FRIENDS, STATE ATTORNEY MR. ANDREW

9:19:04AM WARREN, MS. JULIE HOLT AND WONDERFUL MARIE MARINO WHO IS

9:19:08AM SUCH A GREAT PUBLIC DEFENDER.

9:19:10AM IT IS A REAL PLEASURE.

9:19:10AM YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, WHEN I WAS LOOKING OVER PROSPECTIVE

9:19:16AM REMARKS, I KEPT THINKING ABOUT THE TERM SO MALIGNED IN THE

9:19:19AM LAST TEN YEARS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.

9:19:21AM WE ALL KNOW IN WHAT CONTEXT THAT'S BEEN MALIGNED, I ALWAYS

9:19:26AM THINK WHEN FOLKS TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF ORGANIZING THE

9:19:28AM COMMUNITY, THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING.

9:19:30AM THAT WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, THE

9:19:32AM HUNGRY, THE POOR, THE ABANDONED, THOSE WHO ARE AT RISK,

9:19:35AM ET CETERA, AND YOU GIVE THEM HELP, YOU GIVE THEM

9:19:37AM INTERVENTION, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

9:19:39AM WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH, ALONG

9:19:42AM WITH ITS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE HAVE BEEN

9:19:46AM DOING SINCE 2013, AND THEY DO JUST A REAL, REAL MARVELOUS

9:19:50AM JOB IN THAT REGARD.

9:19:51AM I KNOW THAT RECENTLY YOU WERE HERE WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES

9:19:54AM BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION A REENTRY ORDINANCE.




9:19:56AM THAT REALLY GOES TO THE HEART OF WHAT SAFE AND SOUND

9:19:59AM HILLSBOROUGH DOES.

9:20:00AM A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF BEING TOUGH ON CRIME,

9:20:02AM AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT

9:20:05AM YOU'VE ALSO GOT TO BE TOUGH ON THE CAUSES OF CRIME.

9:20:08AM THAT SORT OF ISOLATION, THE FAMILY DISCORD, FAMILY

9:20:11AM DISRUPTION, ET CETERA.

9:20:13AM THE BASIC THINGS THAT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH GET DOWN

9:20:16AM TO THE CORE OF.

9:20:18AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO

9:20:20AM HONORING NOT JUST HERE TODAY BUT CONTINUING TO HONOR AS

9:20:23AM COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.

9:20:26AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND

9:20:30AM SAY WORDS ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION.

9:20:32AM IT IS OUR PLEASURE AND HONOR TO GIVE THIS TO YOU, SIR.

9:20:35AM THANK YOU, SIR.

9:20:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

9:20:38AM CERTAINLY, WE'RE HONORED TO BE HERE TO RECEIVE THIS

9:20:40AM COMMENDATION AND ALSO TO JUST ONCE AGAIN TALK ABOUT THE

9:20:45AM EFFORTS OF SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH TO REDUCE AND PREVENT

9:20:47AM VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

9:20:48AM AS OUR VISION STATEMENT SAYS, WE WORK TOGETHER TO PROMOTE

9:20:51AM STRONG FAMILIES, SAFE SCHOOLS AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS.

9:20:53AM WE CAN'T DO THIS WORK WITHOUT THE STRONG SUPPORT OF ALL OF

9:20:57AM YOU HERE, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONE OF OUR STRONGEST PARTNERS




9:21:00AM IN OUR EFFORT.

9:21:02AM IT JUST SPEAKS TO THE MAGNITUDE OF OUR WORK WHEN WE HAVE OUR

9:21:05AM PUBLIC DEFENDER AND OUR STATE ATTORNEY GET TOGETHER AND SAY

9:21:08AM WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE OUR YOUTH HAVE A

9:21:11AM POSITIVE TRAJECTORY IN LIFE AND THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE

9:21:13AM ISSUES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO VIOLENCE.

9:21:15AM WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE TAMPA BE MARKED AS A PLACE WHERE

9:21:18AM PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE.

9:21:20AM WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

9:21:21AM WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IN OUR EVENTS.

9:21:24AM WHETHER A I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO -- ALLOW YOU TO HEAR

9:21:27AM FROM OUR LEADERSHIP COUNCIL CHAIR, OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER,

9:21:30AM MENTOR, FRIEND, MRS. HOLT, AS WELL AS ANOTHER FRIEND, STRONG

9:21:34AM ADVOCATE IN THE COMMUNITY, MR. WARREN.

9:21:36AM >> WELL, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

9:21:38AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY AND CHAIR

9:21:41AM VIERA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMENDATION.

9:21:43AM I JUST ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL WANT TO SAY THAT

9:21:47AM OUR EFFORTS REALLY HAVE STARTED TO FOCUS TREMENDOUSLY ON

9:21:50AM MENTAL HEALTH WELL-BEING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

9:21:52AM I AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU WILL APPRECIATE YOUR ROLE IN THAT

9:21:57AM PARTICULAR MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE

9:21:59AM RECENTLY WENT OUT EVEN, AS FAR OUT AS WIMAUMA.

9:22:02AM I CAN TELL YOU EVERYWHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE

9:22:07AM NUMBER ONE CONCERN THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS IS THE PREVENTION




9:22:09AM OF VIOLENCE AND, EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE MENTAL HEALTH

9:22:11AM WELL-BEING OF ITS CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

9:22:14AM THEY CLEARLY LOOK TO US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AS

9:22:17AM COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HELP THEM IN THAT PARTICULAR QUEST.

9:22:21AM SO ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR

9:22:23AM VERY STRONG SUPPORT.

9:22:24AM I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE

9:22:27AM OF YOU.

9:22:27AM I WANT TO INTRODUCE FOR JUST A MOMENT, IF I COULD, THE CHAIR

9:22:30AM OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH FAMILY WELL-BEING COMMITTEE, MARIE

9:22:34AM MARINO WHO HAS BEEN DOING THE WORK ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC

9:22:37AM DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

9:22:38AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SUPE, FOR 27 YEARS.

9:22:41AM I WANT TO APPLAUD HER EFFORTS TODAY BECAUSE SHE HAS

9:22:44AM CERTAINLY MOVED US.

9:22:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:22:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:22:54AM JUST TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER AND FREDDY

9:22:58AM BARTON.

9:22:58AM SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH HAS DONE SO MUCH TO EMBRACE THE

9:23:01AM PHILOSOPHY THAT WE CAN REDUCE CRIME AND MAKE OUR

9:23:04AM NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER BY PREVENTING CRIME, TRYING TO STEER KIDS

9:23:08AM FROM THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL OF THE SYSTEM.

9:23:09AM I TELL YOU, AS MUCH AS WE LOOK AT SYSTEMIC CHANGE WITHIN THE

9:23:12AM CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH DOES SO




9:23:15AM MUCH ON A PERSON-BY-PERSON LEVEL.

9:23:18AM WHEN YOU GO TO THE EVENTS, YOU WATCH OUT THE KIDS INTERACT

9:23:23AM WITH THE MENTORS THERE, WITH FREDDY AND HIS TEAM.

9:23:27AM WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS, IT

9:23:29AM MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE KIDS, AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN

9:23:33AM THEIR FACES TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY

9:23:35AM WHO CARE ABOUT THEM, WHO ARE WORKING TOWARDS MAKING THEM

9:23:39AM SAFER, HEALTHIER, STRONGER, AND KEEPING THEM ON A PATH TO

9:23:42AM BEING A PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN.

9:23:44AM UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY COME TO ONE OF THOSE EVENTS, AND I URGE

9:23:47AM PEOPLE TO COME WATCH WHAT SAFE AND SOUND DOES ON AN

9:23:50AM EVENT-BY-EVENT BASIS, IT'S HARD TO APPRECIATE THE IMPACT

9:23:53AM THAT FREDDIE AND HIS TEAM HAVE EVERY DAY ON AT-RISK KIDS IN

9:23:57AM OUR COMMUNITY.

9:24:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

9:24:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM.

9:24:09AM YOU HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP RUNNING THE PROGRAMS.

9:24:11AM I WANT TO SAY, FREDDY, THANK YOU FOR COMING A COUPLE OF

9:24:14AM WEEKS AGO.

9:24:15AM YOU KNOW HOW ENTRENCHED I AM IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IN OUR

9:24:18AM YOUNG PEOPLE AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO HAVE PAST INDISCRETIONS

9:24:22AM WHO ARE NOT GETTING OPPORTUNITIES.

9:24:24AM I WAS THANKFUL YOU CAME AND SPOKE BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING

9:24:27AM WITH THAT EVERY DAY.

9:24:28AM YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.




9:24:29AM I'M GLAD THAT THE COUNCIL ON THAT DAY UNDERSTOOD THAT AND

9:24:32AM ALSO HAVE SUGGESTIONS TO BRING BACK TO OUR LEGAL SO WE CAN

9:24:34AM GET SOMETHING MOVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SO WE CAN BE THE

9:24:36AM FOREFATHERS OF GETTING SOMETHING GREAT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA

9:24:39AM AS IT RELATES TO REENTRY.

9:24:41AM MS. HOLT, MR. WARREN, YOU'RE DOING A FABULOUS JOB.

9:24:44AM I DID GO TO YOUR COUNCIL MEETING.

9:24:46AM I THINK MY AIDE AND YOUR OFFICE IS WORKING WITH A DATE FOR

9:24:50AM YOU TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO TELL US ALL THE OTHER

9:24:53AM WONDERFUL PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE WORKING ON IN OUR COUNTY

9:24:56AM AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT.

9:24:58AM I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU,

9:25:01AM FREDDY.

9:25:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

9:25:03AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO COUNCILMAN

9:25:06AM GUDES' COMMENTS.

9:25:07AM I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MS. HOLT AND

9:25:10AM MS. MARINO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND MR. WARREN FOR A COUPLE

9:25:13AM OF YEARS NOW.

9:25:14AM AND THIS COMMUNITY IS SO LUCKY.

9:25:16AM YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING,

9:25:20AM DIFFICULT THINGS FACING OUR COMMUNITY AND IT AFFECTS

9:25:23AM EVERYBODY IN NUMEROUS WAYS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE A VICTIM,

9:25:28AM FAMILY.

9:25:29AM WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE LEADERS IN MR. WARREN AND MS. HOLT AT




9:25:34AM THE HEAD OF THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING

9:25:37AM SO CLOSELY TOGETHER ON THESE TOUGH ISSUES AND THAT'S THE

9:25:41AM ONLY WAY WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS.

9:25:42AM I THINK WE'RE ALREADY STANDING OUT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA

9:25:45AM AND PROBABLY NATIONALLY BECAUSE OF THAT.

9:25:47AM WE THANK YOU.

9:25:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

9:25:53AM FREDDY, I THINK STATE ATTORNEY WARREN SAID IT BEST, MAKING A

9:25:57AM DIFFERENCE.

9:25:57AM THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT DIFFERENCE.

9:25:59AM MR. WARREN, MS. HOLT, ANYTIME THAT THIS GROUP NEEDS ME FOR

9:26:03AM ANYTHING, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL ME.

9:26:06AM TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.

9:26:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:26:10AM ANYBODY ELSE?

9:26:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

9:26:12AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES, COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT YOU DO.

9:26:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:26:19AM NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN CITRO --

9:26:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO

9:26:49AM WILL BE GIVING A COMMENDATION.

9:27:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THIS PRESENTATION OR

9:27:07AM COMMENDATION THIS MORNING FOR THE FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA

9:27:09AM SANGRIA AND CIGARS, PRESENTED BY THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF

9:27:12AM COMMERCE TO BE HELD THIS SUNDAY, 11 TO 4.




9:27:19AM THOSE WATCHING AND FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, IT'S A GREAT

9:27:22AM EVENT.

9:27:23AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HONORS THE FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA SANGRIA

9:27:25AM AND CIGARS PRESENTED BY THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

9:27:27AM THIS IS WEST TAMPA'S SIGNATURE EVENT THAT BRINGS TOGETHER

9:27:30AM THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY, ITS BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS

9:27:33AM THAT SHARE ALL THAT WEST TAMPA HAS TO OFFER WITH ATTENDEES

9:27:37AM FROM THROUGHOUT THE GREATER TAMPA BAY AREA AND BEYOND.

9:27:39AM THE EVENT BRINGS NEW VISITORS TO WEST TAMPA, HIGHLIGHTING

9:27:42AM THE COMMUNITY'S HISTORIC ROOTS AND ENHANCING WEST TAMPA'S

9:27:45AM IMAGE AS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.

9:27:48AM A PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS WILL BE DONATED TO THE

9:27:51AM JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HEALTH CLINIC, WHICH HAS SERVED OUR

9:27:54AM COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

9:27:55AM AND THEIR GREAT WORK PROVIDES LOW AND MODERATE INCOME

9:27:58AM INDIVIDUALS WITH CRITICALLY NEEDED MEDICAL AND DENTAL CARE.

9:28:01AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES YOUR COMPASSION, ENTERPRISING

9:28:02AM ENDEAVORS, AND YOUR SELFLESS EFFORTS FOR THIS MOST

9:28:04AM WORTHWHILE EVENT.

9:28:07AM IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

9:28:10AM PRESENTS WITH YOU THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 7th DAY OF

9:28:13AM NOVEMBER, 2019.

9:28:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:28:24AM >> THANK YOU, GUIDO, AND DISTINGUISHED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

9:28:32AM WE, ON BEHALF OF THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WE




9:28:36AM TRULY APPRECIATE THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.

9:28:42AM JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EVENT, IT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE

9:28:44AM HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF WEST TAMPA WHICH IS RICH, TALK ABOUT

9:28:49AM CULTURE AND HISTORY, AS WELL AS THE WEST TAMPA TODAY.

9:28:51AM IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE OF EVERYTHING OF WEST TAMPA, WHICH IS A

9:28:54AM GREAT COMMUNITY HERE IN TAMPA.

9:28:56AM ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WE AS A CHAMBER PUT THIS EVENT ON

9:29:01AM IS TO HELP SUPPORT THE LOCAL WEST TAMPA CHAMBER NONPROFIT

9:29:06AM ORGANIZATION.

9:29:08AM THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HEALTH CLINIC.

9:29:10AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE KELLY

9:29:13AM BELL.

9:29:14AM SHE'S OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HEALTH

9:29:17AM CLINIC.

9:29:17AM SHE WILL GIVE YOU A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE CLINIC.

9:29:19AM HOPE TO SEE YOU THIS COMING SUNDAY.

9:29:21AM ONE LAST THING, BEFORE I FORGET, IF I DON'T DO THIS, THIS IS

9:29:25AM FOR EACH OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS.

9:29:27AM WE HAVE A NICE WINE TEMPLATE HERE AND YOU'LL GET IT BEFORE

9:29:33AM THE END OF THE MEETING.

9:29:34AM ALSO, SPECIAL INVITATION WITH THIS, YOU GET A VIP PASS FOR

9:29:39AM THE EVENT THIS SUNDAY.

9:29:41AM HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

9:29:44AM >> IS IT UNDER A HUNDRED DOLLARS?

9:29:46AM [ LAUGHTER ]




9:29:47AM >> IT IS 99.99.

9:29:50AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION OF THE EVENT,

9:29:55AM FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA, THE 8th YEAR FOR THE EVENT.

9:29:58AM THE CLINIC IS IN ITS 47th YEAR OF SERVICE TO TAMPA BAY AND

9:30:02AM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AREA, SERVING PEOPLE WHO ARE

9:30:05AM UNINSURED AND WHO DO NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.

9:30:09AM THE FOLKS WHO COME TOGETHER TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY ARE

9:30:12AM VOLUNTEERS, DOCTORS, DENTISTS, EYE DOCTORS, PHARMACISTS.

9:30:17AM WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH PRIDE.

9:30:19AM WE'RE HONORED TO DO SO.

9:30:21AM WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO BE PARTNERED WITH THE WEST TAMPA

9:30:24AM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE THANK THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY FOR

9:30:26AM THE RECOGNITION.

9:30:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU AT THE EVENT

9:30:35AM AND TO ALL FROM WEST TAMPA AND ALSO THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT I

9:30:39AM WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

9:30:41AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS SENDING ME ON A MISSION TO A PLACE

9:30:44AM CALLED OXFORD FLORIDA.

9:30:46AM I USUALLY GO TO -- I MAY NEVER COME BACK.

9:30:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT I'VE GOT TO PERFORM MY DUTIES

9:30:57AM SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

9:30:58AM I WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

9:31:01AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.

9:31:02AM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:31:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.




9:31:04AM COUNCILMAN, HAVING WORKED WITH THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF

9:31:07AM COMMERCE, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SPECIAL EVENT OVER THE YEARS.

9:31:11AM I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE HUGE BEING AT THE JULIAN

9:31:14AM B. LANE PARK THIS YEAR.

9:31:17AM I WILL BE THERE SUNDAY.

9:31:19AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I AM SORRY YOU WON'T BE THERE.

9:31:24AM BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY WILL BE HAVING THE DOMINO'S

9:31:27AM TOURNAMENT WITH HANDICAP, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN

9:31:30AM THIS YEAR.

9:31:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL THAT ARE LISTENING AND ALL THAT ARE

9:31:40AM SEEING THIS, I CHALLENGE THIS MAN.

9:31:42AM I DON'T PLAY WELL BUT THE GUYS THAT ARE COMING AND THE

9:31:44AM LADIES THAT ARE COMING THAT I KNOW REALLY PLAY WELL.

9:31:46AM I KNEW GOING IN I WOULD NEVER WIN ANYTHING.

9:31:49AM I APPRECIATE IT.

9:31:52AM NOW I GOT A CHALLENGE.

9:31:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S ON.

9:31:55AM ANYONE ELSE?

9:31:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:31:57AM NEXT WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

9:32:02AM I WOULD INVITE MY GOOD FRIEND, MS. KAREN CLAY TO COME ON UP,

9:32:06AM IF YOU WOULD, KAREN.

9:32:08AM IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY WITH YOU.

9:32:11AM I THINK ALL OF US HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL KNOW KAREN CLAY

9:32:14AM VERY WELL.




9:32:15AM I WANTED TO INVITE MY GOOD FRIEND KAREN CLAY.

9:32:17AM AND KAREN IS NOT JUST -- I CALL HER, SHE'S NOT JUST MY

9:32:21AM FRIEND, SHE'S ONE OF MY HEROES.

9:32:23AM I DON'T OVERSTATE WHENEVER I SAY THAT.

9:32:25AM KAREN IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE

9:32:27AM TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION ON AT THE END

9:32:30AM OF CITY COUNCIL DURING MOTION TIME, INVOLVING MEDICAID

9:32:33AM WAIVER AND THE GREAT DRASTIC CHANGES HAPPENING HERE IN THE

9:32:38AM STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE TERRIBLE EFFECT THAT THIS IS GOING

9:32:41AM TO HAVE AND IS HAVING ON PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND

9:32:45AM DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.

9:32:47AM IT'S A CAUSE THAT KAREN IS A WARRIOR FOR AND FEELS IN HER

9:32:53AM HEART.

9:32:53AM KAREN, GO AHEAD.

9:32:55AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:32:58AM GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO

9:33:01AM YOU TODAY.

9:33:02AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE DEMOCRATIC DISABILITY CAUCUS OF

9:33:06AM FLORIDA AS WELL AS OUR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHAPTER.

9:33:08AM BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I AM A MOM AND A CAREGIVER.

9:33:12AM I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH ONE QUICK COMMENT,

9:33:16AM MR. DINGFELDER.

9:33:17AM THIS IS REGARDING ANY STRAW BANS, THE DISABILITY CAUCUS

9:33:24AM OPPOSE ANY ALL-OUT BANS AND WE REQUEST PROVISION UPON

9:33:29AM REQUEST.




9:33:30AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE MEDICAID REDESIGN.

9:33:33AM IT'S NOT A MEDICAID REDESIGN AT ALL.

9:33:35AM THAT'S A VERY DISINGENUOUS TERM.

9:33:38AM THIS IS AN ATTACK ON FLORIDA'S MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.

9:33:41AM FOR THE MAJORITY OF FLORIDIANS, MEDICAID IS A LIFELINE.

9:33:46AM IT'S THERE TO PROTECT IN CASE OF AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, A

9:33:50AM NATURAL DISASTER LIKE WE SAW IN THE PANHANDLE THIS PAST

9:33:55AM YEAR.

9:33:55AM AND FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, A MEDICAID WAIVER IS

9:33:58AM A LIFE.

9:33:59AM IT ENABLES INDIVIDUALS TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND

9:34:02AM COMMUNITIES, LEADING MEANINGFUL, PRODUCTIVE LIVES.

9:34:06AM MANY -- WITH THE HELP OF PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE, JOB

9:34:11AM COACHES, ET CETERA.

9:34:12AM MEDICAID WAIVERS ARE COST-EFFECTIVE.

9:34:14AM THEY COST LESS THAN INSTITUTIONAL CARE.

9:34:17AM AND INDIVIDUALS WOULDN'T EVEN QUALIFY FOR THIS MEDICAID

9:34:20AM WAIVER UNLESS IT COST LESS THAN INSTITUTIONAL CARE.

9:34:24AM THE ESTIMATE TO REOPEN THE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATE OF

9:34:28AM FLORIDA WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $3.4 BILLION ANNUALLY.

9:34:33AM SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING THE STATE, ACTUALLY HAVING TO FIGHT

9:34:37AM WITH THE STATE TO SAVE MONEY.

9:34:39AM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS REDESIGN.

9:34:43AM IT CAME ABOUT AS AN AMENDMENT DURING CONFERENCE.

9:34:47AM YET APD AND AHCA HAD BEEN MEETING FOR MONTHS PRIOR TO THIS




9:34:54AM AMENDMENT.

9:34:54AM NOW EVERYTHING IS ON THE FAST TRACK, AND WE WERE NEVER

9:34:57AM INVITED EXCEPT TO ONE PUBLIC MEETING IN JULY.

9:35:00AM AND AT THAT POINT, PEOPLE WERE ASKED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND

9:35:03AM THEY SUBMITTED THEM.

9:35:06AM APD AND AHCA TRIED TO KEEP THAT OUT OF THE PUBLIC REALM.

9:35:09AM THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE MOST

9:35:11AM VULNERABLE OF THE VULNERABLE.

9:35:13AM COMPRISING ONLY 0.15% OF OUR TOTAL POPULATION HERE IN

9:35:18AM FLORIDA.

9:35:19AM THAT'S 34,500 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RECEIVING SERVICES.

9:35:26AM THERE ARE ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY 22,000 PEOPLE ON A WAITING

9:35:29AM LIST, AND THEY'RE NOT WAITING JUST FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS OR

9:35:33AM YEARS BUT DECADES.

9:35:34AM WE CURRENTLY RANK 50th IN THE NATION.

9:35:38AM THAT'S WHAT I PASSED OUT TO ALL OF YOU.

9:35:42AM IN FUNDING.

9:35:43AM ADVOCATES, THE APD AND NATIONAL EXPERTS HAVE TRIED TO

9:35:46AM EXPLAIN THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE BUDGET PREDICTABILITY IS TO

9:35:52AM BUILD IN AN ANNUAL INCREASE, AND YET EVERY YEAR THEY

9:35:55AM CONTINUE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF FLORIDA'S

9:35:59AM MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.

9:36:00AM OF WE CAN DO BETTER.

9:36:03AM MY ONLY QUESTION TO YOU IS FLORIDA MORE FISCALLY BANKRUPT OR

9:36:08AM MORALLY BANKRUPT?




9:36:09AM I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO OPPOSE ANY CUTS TO THIS MEDICAID,

9:36:16AM THEY CALL IT THE I BUDGET OR HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED

9:36:20AM SERVICE WAIVER.

9:36:20AM I'M ALSO ASKING THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL SIGN ON TO AN

9:36:24AM ORGANIZATIONAL LETTER THAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR THE GOVERNOR

9:36:26AM AND ALL OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE LEGISLATURE SO THAT THEY

9:36:30AM KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS NOT ONLY OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE

9:36:34AM OPPOSED TO ANY CUTS TO THIS WAIVER, BUT ALSO ORGANIZATIONS

9:36:37AM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

9:36:38AM THANK YOU AGAIN.

9:36:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, KAREN.

9:36:43AM I KNOW SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL CHIME IN.

9:36:45AM I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION ON IT AT THE END.

9:36:47AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

9:36:48AM I KNOW THIS CAUSE IS VERY PERSONAL TO US WITH YOUR WONDERFUL

9:36:51AM SON MIKE AND MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN WHO IS DEVELOPMENTALLY

9:36:58AM DISABLED.

9:36:58AM SOMETHING I SAW MY PARENTS LIVE WITH ALL THEIR LIVES AND SEE

9:37:02AM PEOPLE LIVE WITH STILL.

9:37:03AM IT MAKES ME ANGRY.

9:37:05AM EVERY YEAR I READ ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR

9:37:07AM CUTTING TAXES BY $250 MILLION A YEAR, KAREN, WE KNOW WHERE

9:37:11AM THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM.

9:37:13AM I ALWAYS SAY, I'VE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES AND SAY IT

9:37:16AM HERE, WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE HAVE THE




9:37:19AM POPULATION FROM CALIFORNIA, BUT WE GOT THE LEGISLATURE FROM

9:37:22AM MISSISSIPPI WHENEVER IT COMES TO ISSUES LIKE THIS.

9:37:25AM MAKES ME ANGRY.

9:37:26AM SHOULD MAKE US ALL ANGRY AND WHY WE SHOULD DEMAND CHANGE.

9:37:30AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.

9:37:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO QUICKLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR

9:37:33AM LEADERSHIP AND ALL THE EDUCATION YOU PROVIDE IN THE

9:37:35AM COMMUNITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOUR COMPASSION FOR EVERYONE

9:37:39AM WHO HAS SPECIAL NEEDS AND HOW YOU CARE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND

9:37:42AM KEEP US AWARE OF THESE ISSUES.

9:37:45AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:37:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS

9:37:50AM ISSUE.

9:37:51AM YOU'RE A CHAMPION OF THOSE WITH DISABILITIES.

9:37:53AM I KNOW MS. CLAY A WHILE.

9:37:56AM I KNOW HER FIGHT.

9:37:57AM SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN A FIGHTER ON THESE ISSUES.

9:38:00AM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THINGS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND

9:38:03AM THEM.

9:38:07AM I HAVE A FAMILY WITH DISABILITIES, MY FATHER.

9:38:08AM I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU ARE A CAREGIVER, PEOPLE DON'T

9:38:15AM UNDERSTAND THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL STRAIN WHEN YOU ARE A

9:38:17AM CAREGIVER OF A CHILD OR ADULT.

9:38:19AM IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN YOUR DAILY

9:38:24AM LIFE WELL AND YOUR HEALTH.




9:38:25AM AGAIN, I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR EFFORTS.

9:38:30AM I'M A GREAT SUPPORTER AND A PERSON WITH EXPERIENCE, I KNOW

9:38:35AM WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.

9:38:36AM KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT, MS. CLAY.

9:38:40AM >> THANK YOU, I WILL.

9:38:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL BE MAKING THE MOTION AT THE END.

9:38:43AM I WANT TO COMMEND YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT

9:38:45AM PHILOSOPHICAL TRADITION OF THE ROOSEVELT, TRUMAN, KENNEDY,

9:38:48AM JOHNSON, HUMPHREY, THAT'S YOU, KAREN CLAY.

9:38:51AM I MEAN IT.

9:38:52AM >> WE CAN AND SHOULD DO BETTER.

9:38:54AM WE'RE ACTUALLY RANKED AS THE SECOND-MOST FISCALLY SOUND

9:38:59AM ECONOMY IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE HAVE THE NINTH STRONGEST

9:39:02AM ECONOMY IN THIS COUNTRY AND YET WE REFUSE TO DO BETTER FOR

9:39:06AM THE DISABLED OF OUR STATE.

9:39:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

9:39:09AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:39:10AM THANK YOU, KAREN.

9:39:11AM NEXT, WE MOVE ONWARD TO TAMPA BAY WATER.

9:39:15AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION.

9:39:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS HERE, SOUTHWEST

9:39:23AM FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ALSO TAMPA BAY WATER.

9:39:26AM WHO'S GOING TO GO FIRST?

9:39:27AM THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO DO SHORT PRESENTATION ON THESE THE

9:39:38AM REGIONAL CONTEXT.




9:39:39AM YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M A REGIONALIST.

9:39:41AM I TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COORDINATE REGION-WIDE ON ISSUES

9:39:45AM AND THAT WE'RE SENSITIVE OF REGIONAL ISSUES.

9:39:47AM SINCE WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ON WATER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO,

9:39:51AM THIS WAS THE SOONEST WE COULD GET ON THE SCHEDULE.

9:39:53AM JUST TO HAVE THEM PRESENT WHAT THE REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE IS

9:39:56AM ON WATER.

9:40:04AM >> CAN SOMEBODY LOAD THE PRESENTATION?

9:40:05AM JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M AMANDA RICE FROM THE SOUTHWEST

9:40:15AM FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

9:40:17AM I'M THE ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

9:40:19AM AND BRIAN ARM STRONG, OUR E.D., ASKED ME TO APOLOGIZE.

9:40:24AM HE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE, BUT HE HAD APPOINTMENTS IN

9:40:26AM TALLAHASSEE TODAY.

9:40:27AM IN CASE YOU AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH US, WE ARE ONE OF FIVE

9:40:33AM WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

9:40:36AM WE ARE CREATED BY STATUTE.

9:40:38AM WE REPRESENT 16 COUNTIES, ALL A PART OF 16 COUNTIES.

9:40:45AM AND WE'RE ONE OF BIG THREE.

9:40:46AM THERE ARE FIVE, BUT THREE QUITE LARGE ONES, US, ST. JOHNS

9:40:50AM AND THEN THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

9:40:53AM WE HAVE FOUR AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY SHOWN HERE.

9:40:58AM WATER SUPPLY, WATER QUALITY, NATURAL SYSTEMS AND FLOOD

9:41:01AM PROTECTION.

9:41:02AM AS PART OF OUR WATER SUPPLY FUNCTION, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS




9:41:10AM THAT WE DO IS REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.

9:41:13AM SO THIS REQUIREMENT OF US IS DEFINED BY STATUTE.

9:41:17AM EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE DO HAVE TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL WATER

9:41:21AM SUPPLY PLAN THAT LOOKS AT DEMANDS, ENVIRONMENTAL

9:41:23AM CONSTRAINTS, STRATEGIES TO MEET THE DEMANDS, AND OUR LATEST

9:41:28AM UPDATE IS ACTUALLY DUE NEXT YEAR.

9:41:31AM IT'S BEING PREPARED RIGHT NOW.

9:41:33AM SO THIS IS A BIG OF A SNEAK PEEK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE

9:41:40AM SEEING IN OUR REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN UPDATE, FOUR

9:41:46AM DEMANDS.

9:41:47AM THIS GRAPHIC IS FOR THE PUBLIC SUPPLY SECTOR ONLY.

9:41:49AM WE DO DEVELOP DEMAND PROJECTIONS FOR MANY OTHER SECTORS,

9:41:53AM INCLUDING AGRICULTURE, INDUSTRIAL, MINING, AND SO FORTH.

9:41:56AM BUT THIS IS JUST FOR PUBLIC SUPPLY, SUPPLIED THROUGH

9:42:01AM UTILITIES.

9:42:01AM THIS IS ALSO ORGANIZED BY REGION.

9:42:03AM YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE ARE EXPECTING ABOUT 105 MGD,

9:42:08AM MILLION GALLONS PER DAY INCREASE, FOR REGIONAL DEMANDS

9:42:11AM BETWEEN 2020 AND 2040.

9:42:13AM AND WELCOME HALF OF THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE TAMPA BAY

9:42:17AM REGION.

9:42:17AM BUT WE DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS.

9:42:22AM THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD TO DATE.

9:42:27AM THIS GRAPH, THE BLUE BARS ARE GROUNDWATER USE.

9:42:31AM THE GREEN LINE IS POPULATION GROWTH, AND THE ORANGE LINE IS




9:42:35AM TOTAL WATER USE.

9:42:37AM SO THAT INCLUDES OTHER SUPPLY SOURCES, ALTERNATIVE WATER

9:42:40AM SUPPLY, SURFACE WATER AND SO FORTH.

9:42:42AM YOU CAN SEE THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT POPULATION HAS REALLY

9:42:45AM INCREASED, WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THAT THROUGH DEMAND

9:42:50AM REDUCTIONS.

9:42:51AM AND THAT'S BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BY CONSERVATION EFFORTS, THE

9:42:55AM DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY, AND ALSO

9:43:01AM CONSERVATION ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY AND A VERY LARGE

9:43:04AM RECLAIMED WATER NETWORK ACROSS OUR 16 COUNTIES.

9:43:07AM BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN MEET THIS NEW

9:43:12AM DEMAND COMING THROUGH OUR COOPERATIVE FUNDING INITIATIVE AND

9:43:17AM OUR COOPERATORS.

9:43:19AM SO IN THE PAST, TAMPA BAY WATER, WE HAVE INVESTED

9:43:22AM $315 MILLION, AND THE SISTER REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITY

9:43:28AM DOWN SOUTH, THE PEACE RIVER MANASOTA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY

9:43:31AM AUTHORITY, WE'VE INVESTED $136 MILLION TO DATE.

9:43:36AM AND OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS, ON AVERAGE, OUR ANNUAL

9:43:40AM COOPERATIVE FUNDING INITIATIVE BUDGETING HAS BEEN

9:43:43AM $51 MILLION PER YEAR.

9:43:46AM WE EXPECT THAT IN ORDER TO MEET THIS LARGE DEMAND PROJECTION

9:43:51AM COMING OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, OUR COOPERATIVE FUNDING

9:43:55AM INITIATIVE SPENDING IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP OVER THE NEXT

9:43:58AM TEN YEARS BY ABOUT ANOTHER $20 MILLION.

9:44:02AM SO ABOUT $70 MILLION PER YEAR FOR COOPERATIVE FUNDING.




9:44:06AM THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY US DOING A LITTLE BIT OF

9:44:11AM PRIORITIZATION ON OUR MORE TRADITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE

9:44:14AM COMING IN IN ORDER TO GET THESE LARGE WATER SUPPLY

9:44:17AM INITIATIVES BUILT.

9:44:19AM SO WE DO HAVE A BOARD WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 10th

9:44:25AM AT OUR BROOKSVILLE OFFICE AT 9 A.M., WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE

9:44:29AM TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY

9:44:32AM INITIATIVES THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED ACROSS OUR REGION.

9:44:35AM WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS FOR OUR

9:44:38AM BOARD, TALKING ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL ENGINE AND WHAT THEY CAN

9:44:41AM EXPECT OVER TIME.

9:44:43AM SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION ON THESE

9:44:46AM ISSUES.

9:44:46AM SO THIS IS A SLIDE JUST TO SHOW SOME ADVANTAGES OF

9:44:54AM REGIONALISM THAT WE'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF WATER SUPPLY

9:44:56AM DEVELOPMENT.

9:44:57AM ANOTHER ONE THAT'S NOT SHOWN HERE IS INTEGRATION OF A

9:45:01AM DIVERSE SUPPLY SOURCES IN AN AREA THAT REALLY GIVES THE

9:45:06AM ABILITY TO ROTATE THE SUPPLIES TO DEAL WITH CLIMATIC

9:45:09AM CHANGES, ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES, AND ALSO EMERGENCY

9:45:12AM CONDITIONS.

9:45:12AM SO WE GET ECONOMY OF SCALE, COST-EFFECTIVENESS, REGIONALISM

9:45:18AM HAS REALLY BEEN PROVEN TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE WATER

9:45:22AM MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING LARGE-SCALE

9:45:26AM WATER SUPPLY INITIATIVES.




9:45:27AM IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON

9:45:34AM REGIONALISM, OUR BOARD HAS PREPARED A COOPERATIVE FUNDING

9:45:39AM POLICY THAT GUIDES OUR STAFF.

9:45:41AM SO THIS POLICY DEFINES MULTIJURISDICTIONAL AGENCIES, LIKE

9:45:46AM REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITIES, AND DIRECTS US TO

9:45:50AM PRIORITIZE FUNDING FOR THOSE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL ENTITIES.

9:45:54AM AND, IN FACT, IT STATES THAT IF A MEMBER GOVERNMENT OF A

9:45:59AM REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITY PROPOSES A POTABLE WATER

9:46:03AM SUPPLY PROJECT, IT MUST BE SUBMITTED BY THE REGIONAL WATER

9:46:07AM SUPPLY AUTHORITY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR DISTRICT FUNDING.

9:46:09AM SO I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE FOUR AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY.

9:46:16AM ANOTHER THAT I MENTIONED IS FLOOD PROTECTION.

9:46:20AM WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND VERY IMPACTFUL

9:46:23AM PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT SOME OF THEM ARE

9:46:26AM ONGOING.

9:46:26AM OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD 11 PROJECTS WITH THE

9:46:30AM CITY, TOTALING $33.5 MILLION IN DISTRICT FUNDING.

9:46:33AM FOUR OF THOSE ARE ONGOING.

9:46:35AM THEY ARE SHOWN THERE AS OUR FLOOD PROTECTION PROJECTS.

9:46:40AM REALLY SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR VALUES ON THESE PROJECTS, BUT ALSO

9:46:42AM REALLY SIGNIFICANT, POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS OF

9:46:47AM TAMPA.

9:46:48AM SO FISCAL YEAR '21 APPLICATIONS JUST CAME IN IN EARLY

9:46:52AM OCTOBER.

9:46:53AM THOSE ARE BEING REVIEWED NOW.




9:46:55AM WE DO HAVE THREE REQUESTS FOR THE ONGOING PROJECTS TO FINISH

9:46:58AM THOSE, AND ALSO A NEW PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE CITY

9:47:02AM OF TAMPA, AN ADDITIONAL FLOOD PROTECTION PROJECT.

9:47:06AM OUR BOARD REALLY DOES ENJOY FUNDING THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE

9:47:09AM THEY REALLY DO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE CITIZENS.

9:47:12AM AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A GREAT PARTNER TO

9:47:15AM US.

9:47:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

9:47:19AM WHY DON'T WE HAVE TAMPA BAY WATER PRESENT AND THEN WE'LL ASK

9:47:21AM QUESTIONS.

9:47:22AM >> ALL RIGHT.

9:47:22AM THANK YOU.

9:47:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:47:34AM I'M MATT JORDAN WITH TAMPA BAY WATER.

9:47:37AM I HAVE SOME COPIES OF MY PowerPoint, IF YOU NEED THEM.

9:47:40AM HAPPY TO MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE.

9:47:42AM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU -- GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR

9:47:50AM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

9:47:51AM I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF TAMPA BAY

9:47:53AM WATER.

9:47:53AM BUT I FIRST WANTED TO START WITH GOING TO -- JUST A BRIEF

9:48:04AM HISTORY OF WHERE WE STARTED BACK IN 1998, SIX-MEMBER

9:48:10AM GOVERNMENTS, AFTER TWO YEARS OF NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE

9:48:14AM CREATED IN 1998 TO BE A TRUE REGIONAL SYSTEM.

9:48:19AM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS INCLUDE THE COUNTIES OF HILLSBOROUGH,




9:48:23AM PASCO, AND PINELLAS, ALONG WITH THE CITIES OF NEW PORT

9:48:27AM RICHEY, ST. PETERSBURG, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.

9:48:30AM AS PART OF THE FORMATION OF TAMPA BAY WATER, ALL THE MEMBER

9:48:36AM GOVERNMENTS RELINQUISHED THEIR SIGNIFICANT GROUNDWATER

9:48:40AM SUPPLIES.

9:48:40AM WE PURCHASED THEM FROM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

9:48:43AM YOU CAN SEE THIS SLIDE DEPICTS WHAT TAMPA BAY WATER IS

9:48:55AM TODAY.

9:48:55AM BACK IN 1998, WE WERE AN IDEA.

9:48:58AM WE WERE GIVEN THIS CHARGE TO BUILD A TRUE REGIONAL SYSTEM.

9:49:02AM WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND IT SERVED US WELL OVER

9:49:05AM THE LAST 20 YEARS.

9:49:08AM WE STARTED OFF.

9:49:09AM WE WERE 100% GROUNDWATER.

9:49:11AM AND NOW WE HAVE THREE WATER SOURCES.

9:49:14AM SURFACE WATER AND DESALINATED SEAWATER.

9:49:18AM THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT WE ARE VERY -- HAVE A VERY ROBUST

9:49:23AM SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT HELPS US ALONG WITH OUR RESERVOIR THAT

9:49:27AM HOLDS 15.5 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER TO GET THROUGH THE DRY

9:49:31AM TIMES.

9:49:31AM THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN TESTED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

9:49:38AM MOST RECENTLY, IN 2017, WE WENT THROUGH A RECORD DRY PERIOD,

9:49:46AM AND WE PROVIDED ALL THE WATER NEEDED BY ALL SIX MEMBER

9:49:51AM GOVERNMENTS AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM.

9:49:57AM THIS SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR WATER SOURCES OVER THE




9:50:02AM LAST YEAR.

9:50:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU, SIR.

9:50:05AM THAT MEANS YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

9:50:07AM HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE?

9:50:09AM >> JUST VERY SHORT.

9:50:11AM I CAN SUMMARIZE IT QUICKLY.

9:50:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE THAT.

9:50:14AM >> SO THAT JUST SHOWS OUR DISTRIBUTION.

9:50:20AM WE CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE REGION'S NEEDS THROUGH OUR

9:50:27AM LONG-TERM MASTER WATER PLAN.

9:50:28AM IT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

9:50:31AM THE BOARD JUST APPROVED THAT UPDATE IN DECEMBER OF '18.

9:50:35AM THE DESALINATION EXPANSION, SURFACE WATER EXPANSION,

9:50:40AM ADDITIONAL GROUNDWATER --

9:50:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: TWO MINUTES.

9:50:45AM YOU CAN TAKE TWO MINUTES.

9:50:47AM >> THANK YOU.

9:50:48AM INDIVIDUALLY, THESE ARE THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE PLAN TO

9:50:53AM CONTINUE TO VET OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE SURE

9:50:58AM WE HAVE TAKEN THE MOST RELIABLE, COST-EFFECTIVE, AND

9:51:01AM SUSTAINABLE PROJECT.

9:51:02AM INDIVIDUALLY, EACH OF THESE PROJECTS HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR

9:51:07AM BEING EXPANDED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WATER IN THE FUTURE.

9:51:12AM AS PART OF OUR MASTER WATER PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING AT REGIONAL

9:51:22AM DEMAND MANAGEMENT AS WELL.




9:51:23AM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT BUILDING NEW SUPPLIES.

9:51:25AM WE LOOK AT SEVERAL THINGS.

9:51:27AM ONE OF THOSE IS DEMAND MANAGEMENT.

9:51:29AM WHAT CAN WE DO THROUGH CONSERVATION TO SAVE THE RESOURCES OF

9:51:33AM FLORIDA AND REALIZE JUST THROUGH CONSERVATION MEASURES WE

9:51:39AM HAVE A NEW PROGRAM WORKING WITH EACH MEMBER GOVERNMENT THAT

9:51:44AM WANTS TO PARTICIPATE TO BE ABLE TO HELP FUND YOUR

9:51:46AM CONSERVATION PROJECTS.

9:51:47AM WE HOPE TO SAVE OVER 11 MILLION GALLONS BETWEEN NOW AND

9:51:51AM 2030.

9:51:52AM WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING SYSTEM TO SEE WHAT WE

9:51:56AM CAN DO TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

9:52:00AM ANY BOTTLENECKS OR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE CAN UPGRADE OUR

9:52:03AM FILTERS AT OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THEN WE CAN

9:52:06AM GET MORE CAPACITY, SPENDING VERY LITTLE MONEY.

9:52:09AM JUST I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WATER QUALITY.

9:52:14AM OUR WATER QUALITY, WE CERTAINLY MEET ALL STATE AND FEDERAL

9:52:18AM REQUIREMENTS.

9:52:19AM WE ALSO HAVE REQUIREMENTS UNDER WHAT WE CALL EXHIBIT D.

9:52:22AM THESE ARE PARAMETERS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY OR APPROVED BY

9:52:25AM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

9:52:26AM WE DO MEET THOSE, AND WE MONITOR THOSE AND REPORT TO THE

9:52:31AM BOARD AND THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

9:52:33AM WE ARE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS TO LOOK AT OUR WATER QUALITY,

9:52:37AM SEE IF WE CAN MAKE GOOD WATER QUALITY EVEN BETTER.




9:52:39AM WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT EVALUATION.

9:52:41AM YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT.

9:52:44AM WE'RE INCLUDING THE FIRST ROUND OF THE STUDY, AND WE'LL BE

9:52:47AM MOVING FORWARD, WORKING -- CONTINUING TO WORK WITH ALL THE

9:52:49AM MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO OUR BOARD.

9:52:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO TAKE 45 SECONDS TO FINISH UP,

9:52:58AM YOU MAY.

9:52:59AM >> ACTUALLY, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE AREAS THAT I WANTED TO

9:53:02AM COVER.

9:53:02AM THE NEXT SLIDE IS QUESTIONS.

9:53:04AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS

9:53:08AM THOSE.

9:53:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

9:53:09AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

9:53:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA -- I SEE

9:53:14AM THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS HERE.

9:53:16AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D

9:53:18AM LIKE TO SAY.

9:53:20AM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OUT OF LINE, BUT HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO

9:53:24AM YOU SERVE?

9:53:26AM >> WELL, INCLUDE THE CITY OF TAMPA, 2.3, 2.4 MILLION.

9:53:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CUSTOMERS.

9:53:32AM SIX.

9:53:33AM >> YES, SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

9:53:34AM WE'RE WHOLESALE, YES.




9:53:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFERENT OR

9:53:39AM DIFFICULT.

9:53:39AM I'M NOT THAT WAY.

9:53:40AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, EVERY YEAR -- I SAT THERE FROM 1998

9:53:45AM TO PRESENT, MINUS FOUR YEARS THAT MAYOR IORIO SAT THERE.

9:53:50AM I ALWAYS VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU

9:53:57AM ADVERTISE.

9:53:58AM I ALWAYS SAID, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY WHEN YOU ONLY

9:54:01AM HAVE SIX CUSTOMERS?

9:54:04AM NOT 600,000.

9:54:05AM YOU'RE SMILING BECAUSE I'M SMILING.

9:54:07AM WHEN YOU GO GET GAS AT THE GAS STATION, ASK YOURSELF THIS

9:54:11AM QUESTION, DO YOU SAY,

9:54:13AM I HAVE GAS BUT I WONDER WHERE THE OIL CAME FROM TO MAKE THE

9:54:16AM GAS?

9:54:16AM IF YOU DO, RAISE YOUR HAND.

9:54:19AM WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT, WHERE YOU HAVE TO SPEND -- AND I

9:54:24AM GOT THIS THE OTHER DAY IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, WHICH IS VERY

9:54:27AM NICELY DONE, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE SIX CUSTOMERS.

9:54:31AM WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE YOURSELF?

9:54:32AM IF I ONLY HAD SIX VOTES, DO YOU THINK I'D SPEND 50, 60, 70

9:54:38AM THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET ELECTED?

9:54:40AM ABSOLUTELY NOT.

9:54:40AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS, GET THAT MONEY AND PUT IT TO

9:54:44AM SOMEBODY WHO MAY NEED A WATER CREDIT, DOESN'T HAVE THE




9:54:47AM MONEY, JUST LIKE DONATELLO DID AND TRY TO HELP THE PEOPLE

9:54:50AM WHO REALLY NEED IT.

9:54:52AM ALL OF US FORGET AND SOME OF US REMEMBER, THAT'S ONE OF THE

9:54:57AM THINGS THAT JUST GETS UNDER MY SKIN THAT WE'RE SPENDING

9:55:00AM MONEY ON ADVERTISING WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO.

9:55:03AM THAT'S MY OPINION.

9:55:04AM AND, BY THE WAY, THAT'S THE OPINION OF ONE, NOT OF THE OTHER

9:55:08AM EIGHT MEMBERS.

9:55:10AM I'LL BE VERY UPFRONT.

9:55:11AM I LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, AND THEN THE GOOD PEOPLE FROM

9:55:15AM S.W.F.W.M.D. BROUGHT UP RECLAIMED WATER.

9:55:18AM I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DEBATE WITH BOTH OF YOU, BUT I'D

9:55:28AM LIKE TO SEE BOTH OF YOU MEET WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.

9:55:31AM IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT, WHAT WE SAW IS STARTING TO COME

9:55:34AM AROUND AGAIN.

9:55:35AM WHEN IT WAS -- NOT TAMPA BAY WATER, WHEN IT WAS WEST COAST,

9:55:40AM THAT WAS WHEN THE WARS WERE ON BETWEEN GOVERNMENTS AND

9:55:44AM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE THROWN

9:55:46AM AWAY OF PUBLIC FUNDS FIGHTING EACH OTHER.

9:55:50AM GOVERNMENT FIGHTING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT.

9:55:51AM I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT ERA, BUT THERE IS A

9:55:54AM POSSIBILITY THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME UP, WHETHER BY

9:55:57AM GOVERNMENT OR BY PEOPLE WHO DO THAT.

9:55:59AM I HAVE A PROBLEM PERSONALLY WHEN I PAY A TAX, AND I CANNOT

9:56:04AM GET THAT DIRECT LINE, WHETHER I GET A REFUND OR NOT, DOESN'T




9:56:11AM MATTER.

9:56:12AM I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER AGENCY WHO IS NEVER -- NEVER SERVED

9:56:18AM AN ELECTED BODY, TO GET THEIR PERMISSION AND THEY HAVE TO

9:56:21AM OKAY IT TO SET IT UP FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.

9:56:23AM I REALLY BELIEVE IN TAXATION AND REPRESENTATION GO ONE IN

9:56:26AM HAND.

9:56:26AM AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT BOTHER ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

9:56:30AM THAT'S WHY I VOTE CONSISTENTLY AGAINST THAT.

9:56:32AM I'M NOT SAYING I'M RIGHT.

9:56:34AM I'M SAYING THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

9:56:36AM I GUARANTEE YOU, IF I ASK THE PUBLIC BEHIND TO YOU RAISE

9:56:39AM THEIR HAND, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

9:56:42AM AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG.

9:56:44AM BUT I GOT TO COMPETE -- I, MEANING THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE

9:56:48AM HAVE TO COMPETE FOR THE SAME DOLLARS AS ANYONE ELSE.

9:56:51AM WE HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST YOUR ENTITY, SIR, GREAT ENTITY,

9:56:55AM TAMPA BAY WATER.

9:56:55AM BUT I HAVE TO GET THE APPROVAL OF TAMPA BAY WATER TO SUBMIT

9:56:58AM TO S.W.F.W.M.D. TO GET SOMETHING BACK.

9:57:00AM IF NOT, THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK AT IT.

9:57:03AM THAT'S THE WAY I THINK THE SYSTEM WORKS.

9:57:04AM AND I'M JUST VETTING IT OUT NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN MY

9:57:10AM THROAT AND I'M CHOKING.

9:57:12AM I JUST GOTTA SAY WHAT I GOTTA SAY.

9:57:15AM IT IS THE SAME THING AS GIVING FELONS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.




9:57:18AM YOU GET OUT, OH, YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR RESTITUTION.

9:57:21AM HOW CAN THEY PAY RESTITUTION?

9:57:22AM THEY SERVED 15 YEARS IN JAIL.

9:57:25AM WHERE DO THEY GET THE MONEY AT?

9:57:26AM I'M NOT COMPARING TO THAT LEVEL YET, BUT IT JUST BOTHERS ME

9:57:30AM THAT BY POLICY WE DO THAT.

9:57:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

9:57:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

9:57:34AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

9:57:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

9:57:37AM SIR, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AS WELL AS S.W.F.W.M.D.'S

9:57:45AM REPRESENTATIVE.

9:57:46AM I THINK MOST OF US WERE AROUND, AS MR. MIRANDA MENTIONED,

9:57:52AM DURING THE WATER WARS, AND IT WASN'T PRETTY.

9:57:58AM I WAS OVER IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THE TIME, AND

9:58:01AM THAT'S NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT SHOULD OPERATE.

9:58:03AM FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOT THE WAY.

9:58:05AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR BEFORE I SAY WHAT I

9:58:09AM SAY, THAT I HAVEN'T TAKEN A POSITION ON THE REUSE ISSUE

9:58:13AM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

9:58:15AM I HAVEN'T TAKEN A FORMAL POSITION, AND I'M NOT TAKING ONE

9:58:20AM TODAY, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE HERE AND S.W.F.W.M.D. IS HERE

9:58:25AM AND MR. BAIRD IS HERE, I DO -- IT DOES STRIKE ME CURIOUSLY.

9:58:35AM ON THE ONE HAND, THE DISTRICT SAYS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY MORE

9:58:38AM WATER SOURCES.




9:58:40AM NICE LADY IS NODDING HER HEAD.

9:58:42AM AND THAT'S OBVIOUS.

9:58:44AM WE HAVE GROWTH.

9:58:45AM WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WATER SOURCES OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S

9:58:49AM CONSERVATION AS A SOURCE.

9:58:51AM IT'S A LEGITIMATE SOURCE.

9:58:52AM IT'S WORKED PRETTY WELL FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OR OTHER

9:58:58AM MEANS.

9:58:59AM THE DISTRICT HAS A RULE THAT SAYS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PART

9:59:02AM OF A MEMBER ORGANIZATION, LIKE WE ARE, AND WE WANT AN

9:59:06AM ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DISTRICT, WE

9:59:09AM NEED TO GET SORT OF PERMISSION OR AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF

9:59:13AM VOTES FROM TAMPA BAY WATER.

9:59:15AM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD A LITTLE

9:59:18AM TROUBLE WITH THAT.

9:59:19AM AS CHARLIE SAYS, I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT IT AND WON'T

9:59:22AM ASK YOU TELL.

9:59:24AM MR. BAIRD, AND HIS TEAM, OVER MANY, MANY YEARS, I THINK BRAD

9:59:27AM SAYS PROBABLY BEEN 25 YEARS, HIS ENTIRE CAREER WITH THE

9:59:32AM CITY, HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THIS REUSE PLAN TO SHIP WATER

9:59:37AM FROM THE TREATMENT PLANT BACK UP TO THE RESERVOIR, INJECT

9:59:41AM IT, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND REUSE IT IN THAT WAY.

9:59:46AM BUT -- AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TAKING SIDES ON THIS, MR. CARLSON.

9:59:50AM I JUST WANT TO DO FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT IN PUBLIC.

9:59:55AM BUT WE HIT A STUMBLING POINT.




9:59:57AM MR. BAIRD HIT A STUMBLING POINT.

9:59:59AM MR. MIRANDA HIT A STUMBLING POINT WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT TO

10:00:06AM YOUR GROUP OF SIX MEMBERS WHO APPARENTLY HAVE OBJECTIONS TO

10:00:08AM IT.

10:00:09AM I'M HAVING TROUBLE CONCEPTUALLY WITH THAT, NOT ON THE LEGAL

10:00:14AM SIDE.

10:00:15AM I CAN HANDLE ALL THE LEGAL ARGUMENTS ALL DAY LONG BUT I

10:00:18AM DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS US TO GET INTO THOSE

10:00:21AM LEGAL BATTLES AGAIN.

10:00:22AM BUT JUST CONCEPTUALLY I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH WHY ANY MEMBER

10:00:27AM GOVERNMENTS WOULD HAVE TROUBLE WITH ANOTHER MEMBER

10:00:29AM GOVERNMENT TRYING TO FIND A FUTURE WATER USE LIKE THAT.

10:00:37AM >> WE HAVE, AS FAR AS TAMPA BAY WATER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING

10:00:41AM THROUGH, YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, VARIETY OF COMMITTEES,

10:00:45AM WHETHER IT WAS UTILITY DIRECTORS OF ALL THE MEMBER

10:00:48AM GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING TAMPA BAY WATER STAFF AND SOME OF

10:00:51AM THESE IN OUR MASTER WATER PLAN.

10:00:54AM WE ALSO HAD THE ATTORNEYS FROM ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS

10:00:57AM WORKING AND LOOKING AT THESE QUESTIONS AND HOW COULD THESE

10:01:01AM THINGS BE DONE AND INTERPRETING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT

10:01:04AM WHICH IS ONE OF OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS THAT WE AGREED TO

10:01:08AM FOLLOW.

10:01:08AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, WORKING TOGETHER AND

10:01:11AM STUDYING THIS.

10:01:12AM THE BOARD WAS CONTEMPLATING THAT AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS.




10:01:17AM THERE ARE CERTAINLY VARIOUS OPINIONS.

10:01:20AM CURRENTLY, THE PROPOSAL WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE CITY.

10:01:24AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

10:01:27AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT I GUESS I NEED

10:01:31AM A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION IN TERMS OF THE JUSTIFICATION OF

10:01:35AM OTHER MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

10:01:36AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

10:01:39AM I'M A LAWYER, I CAN HANDLE THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE

10:01:41AM PUBLIC WANTS THAT TO BE THE DECISION MAKER.

10:01:45AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RATIONALE, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR A

10:01:52AM SISTER MEMBER GOVERNMENT ACROSS THE BAY OR VARIOUS MEMBER

10:01:56AM GOVERNMENTS IN YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT COULD OPPOSE THE

10:01:59AM OPPORTUNITY FOR TEN -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, 20, 30 MGD OF

10:02:07AM REUSE.

10:02:08AM WHEREAS, THERE'S A LOT OF REUSE GOING ON ALL OVER.

10:02:12AM I SAW IT ON THE YOUNG LADY'S GRAPH.

10:02:17AM I THINK GENERALLY THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.

10:02:19AM THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER HANDLE OF

10:02:22AM CONCEPTUALLY, IS THIS JUST A LEGAL ARGUMENT?

10:02:27AM IS THIS A FINANCIAL ARGUMENT?

10:02:29AM OR IS THIS A PHILOSOPHICAL OR PERHAPS ENVIRONMENTAL

10:02:32AM ARGUMENT?

10:02:32AM THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET A GRIP ON.

10:02:36AM >> YES, SIR.

10:02:36AM I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.




10:02:39AM BACK A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT OUR MASTER

10:02:43AM WATER PLAN TO INCLUDE, LOOK, COULD WE INCLUDE RECLAIM AS

10:02:49AM PART OF OUR MASTER WATER PLAN?

10:02:50AM THROUGH OUR MEMBER GOVERNMENT WORKING GROUP WITH ALL MEMBER

10:02:53AM GOVERNMENT STAFF, WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS AND

10:02:57AM ULTIMATELY IT WAS PROPOSED THAT WE SHOULD ADD TO THE MASTER

10:03:01AM WATER PLAN THE TAMPA AUGMENTATION PROJECT.

10:03:05AM AND, OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME, IT WAS, I THINK, A DIFFERENT

10:03:08AM PHASE OF IT, EARLIER PHASE OF TAP.

10:03:11AM AND WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO INCLUDE SHARP, WHICH IS THE

10:03:15AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY INJECTION, THE COAST.

10:03:20AM WE CONTINUED WORKING THROUGH THOSE.

10:03:24AM LAST FALL, I THINK IT WAS, THE TAP -- AND TAP HAD CHANGED TO

10:03:27AM THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, DURING THIS TIME, AND WE

10:03:31AM UNDERSTAND THAT WATER -- OR THAT WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

10:03:34AM WE WERE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT WAY OF USING THAT RECLAIMED

10:03:37AM WATER.

10:03:39AM AS FAR AS CAN WE LOOK AT ALTERNATE WATER SUPPLIES AND HOW

10:03:42AM CAN WE DO IT, THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE

10:03:45AM SHARP PROJECT IS STILL ONE OF THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WAS

10:03:47AM RANKED, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY VETTING THAT ALONG WITH THE

10:03:54AM OTHER TWO PROJECTS TO SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US.

10:03:56AM BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME PROMISE THERE.

10:03:58AM IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A GOOD PROJECT.

10:04:01AM WE STILL HAVE TO FINALIZE SOME AGREEMENTS WITH HILLSBOROUGH




10:04:05AM COUNTY, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS WE HAVE MOVING

10:04:08AM FORWARD.

10:04:08AM SO WE ARE LOOKING -- WE LOOKED AT BOTH OF THOSE.

10:04:11AM WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT SHARP.

10:04:12AM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATE WATER SUPPLIES AND HOW THE

10:04:15AM REGION CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE.

10:04:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WE HAVE A

10:04:21AM 10:00 TO BREAK FOR STAFF REPORTS.

10:04:22AM WE HAVE AN ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF STAFF REPORTS.

10:04:24AM I'M GOING TO ASK THIS TO END IN ABOUT TWO OR THREE MINUTES.

10:04:28AM OR IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT UP AFTER STAFF REPORTS, THAT'S

10:04:32AM FINE.

10:04:32AM LET'S AT LEAST INTERVENE RIGHT NOW.

10:04:35AM GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:04:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'LL JUST CLOSE BY SAYING I KNOW

10:04:40AM WE'VE PULLED OUT OF THAT TEMPORARILY, BUT I THINK IT WAS

10:04:43AM MORE OR LESS OUT OF FRUSTRATION THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

10:04:45AM WE DON'T WANT TO LITIGATE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

10:04:53AM I'M SAYING THIS TO ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING OUR

10:04:59AM OWN, THAT I HOPE WE CAN PERHAPS HIRE A MEDIATOR AND COME TO

10:05:03AM SOME RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY AREN'T DOING VERY WELL

10:05:06AM SO FAR.

10:05:06AM I APPRECIATE MR. CARLSON'S EFFORT, ACTUALLY FROM THIS

10:05:12AM COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE TO TABLE THIS FOR A WHILE BECAUSE IT

10:05:15AM LOOKED LIKE WE WERE SORT OF DASHING INTO IT AND RUNNING OUR




10:05:21AM HEAD INTO THE WALL ON THE ISSUE, INCLUDING FROM COUNCIL'S

10:05:28AM PERSPECTIVE.

10:05:29AM I DO APPRECIATE, BILL, YOU DOING THAT SO WE HAVE A LITTLE

10:05:33AM TIME TO BREATHE, BUT THIS ISSUE WILL COME BACK PROBABLY NEXT

10:05:36AM YEAR, AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB, BUT THANK

10:05:36AM YOU.

10:05:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY QUICK.

10:05:43AM WE LITERALLY HAVE TWO MINUTES.

10:05:46AM >> JUST TO SAY WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

10:05:49AM WE CERTAINLY WELCOME THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND WE'RE TRYING TO

10:05:51AM WORK WITH ALL SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING CERTAINLY

10:05:53AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:05:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:05:55AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:05:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING

10:06:00AM THIS ISSUE UP.

10:06:02AM I'M NOT AS WELL VERSED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE AS MR. MIRANDA AND

10:06:05AM MR. DINGFELDER.

10:06:07AM THAT TELLS ME THAT THE PUBLIC ISN'T EITHER.

10:06:10AM I SEE TWO ENTITIES THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EITHER ONE.

10:06:16AM SO WHEN MR. MIRANDA TELLS ME WE'RE SPENDING THIS KIND OF

10:06:21AM MONEY, I'M WONDERING WHO WE'RE ADVERTISING TO.

10:06:26AM THAT JUST MAKES ME -- WHO MEMBERS TO WHAT YOU DO?

10:06:32AM IS THERE A BOARD COMBINED WITH ALL THE ENTITIES, WITH

10:06:35AM SOUTHWEST, WITH YOU GUYS?




10:06:37AM IT'S LIKE EVERYONE IS AT A FREE FOR ALL WITH WHAT WE'RE

10:06:41AM DOING.

10:06:41AM I'M CURIOUS HOW THIS OPERATES.

10:06:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: TEN SECONDS.

10:06:45AM >> YES, WE ARE DOING PUBLIC OUTREACH.

10:06:48AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT THAT.

10:06:49AM PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE AND EDUCATION IS PART OF OUR MASTER WATER

10:06:52AM PLAN PROCESS.

10:06:53AM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE'RE

10:06:55AM PUTTING OUT.

10:06:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:06:57AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CLOSE.

10:06:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A STATEMENT AND QUICK QUESTION FROM

10:07:02AM MS. -- FOR MS. RICE, IF I COULD, WITH A QUICK ANSWER.

10:07:05AM WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AS THE TAP ISSUE COMES UP AGAIN.

10:07:10AM MY INTENTION TODAY WAS NOT TO OPEN BACK UP TAP.

10:07:14AM AS WE MENTIONED, TAP WAS PART OF THE ALTERNATIVES FOR THE

10:07:16AM MASTER WATER PLAN FOR FUTURE SOURCES, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA

10:07:19AM PULLED OUT AND WANTED TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

10:07:23AM THE INTENT OF THE REGION WAS THAT NEW SOURCES WOULD BE

10:07:28AM MANAGED BY THE REGIONAL SUPPLIER, AND TAMPA BAY WATER CAN

10:07:31AM OWN THE PROJECT.

10:07:32AM WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ON THE DEBT AND THEY COULD MANAGE

10:07:35AM IT AND RUN IT.

10:07:36AM IT COULD BE A SIMILAR PROJECT, BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA




10:07:39AM WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE IT ON AND IT WOULD STAY IN THE SPIRIT

10:07:42AM OF REGIONAL COOPERATION INSTEAD OF TAMPA DOING IT ITSELF.

10:07:45AM MS. RICE, COULD YOU DESCRIBE IN A FEW SECONDS WHY IT'S

10:07:49AM IMPORTANT TO TAKE A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND JUST DESCRIBE

10:07:53AM -- YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A 30-YEAR PLAN FOR WATER.

10:07:56AM WE DON'T HAVE ANY URGENT -- MY UNDERSTANDING WE DON'T HAVE

10:07:59AM ANY URGENT SUPPLY REQUIREMENTS THAT CAN'T BE MET BY THE

10:08:03AM PLANNING AND PROCESS GOING THROUGH AND ALSO WHY IS IT

10:08:05AM IMPORTANT TO COOPERATE AS A REGION?

10:08:10AM >> REGIONALISM HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY OUR BOARD AS A

10:08:12AM PRIORITY SINCE OUR COOPERATIVE FUNDING PROGRAM WAS STARTED

10:08:16AM IN THE '80s.

10:08:18AM THIS HAS BEEN A BIG FOCUS FOR US.

10:08:19AM SOME SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS ARE WITH PLANNING. YOU HAVE THE

10:08:23AM ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THEN YOU HAVE FIVE WATER

10:08:25AM MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS SO THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT TELLING

10:08:27AM OUR REGION HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

10:08:30AM YOU BRING IT DOWN TO A LOCAL LEVEL.

10:08:32AM AND THEN THESE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITIES BRING IT

10:08:34AM DOWN ONE MORE STEP.

10:08:36AM WITHOUT THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITIES, EACH OF THOSE

10:08:39AM 11 WELL FIELDS THAT'S UNDER ONE COOPERATIVE --

10:08:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL HAVE TO ASK TO YOU FINISH UP YOUR

10:08:46AM STATEMENT REALLY FAST, IF YOU WOULD.

10:08:47AM WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.




10:08:49AM >> ABSOLUTELY.

10:08:49AM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SUPPLIES UNDER TAMPA BAY WATER, IT'S

10:08:52AM A VERY DIVERSE SET OF SUPPLIES, WOULD BE INDIVIDUALLY

10:08:55AM PERMITTED BY INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES.

10:08:58AM IT GIVES THE ABILITY FOR THIS BODY OF SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS

10:09:03AM TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE MUCH MORE CONTROL AND NOT HAVE THE

10:09:07AM WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DICTATING.

10:09:10AM SO IT'S PUTTING THE AUTHORITY AND THE DECISION MAKING AT THE

10:09:13AM RIGHT LEVEL, AND IT HELPS WITH THE PLANNING EFFORT.

10:09:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:09:18AM ANYTHING ELSE TO CLOSE, COUNCILMAN?

10:09:19AM THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

10:09:21AM THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

10:09:22AM NEXT WE MOVE TO -- I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON PULLED THIS

10:09:26AM ITEM.

10:09:26AM I SEE SOME FOLKS FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

10:09:30AM I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME UP FIRST, IF YOU GUYS COULD.

10:09:33AM I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY, VERY BUSY.

10:09:36AM FOR STAFF REPORTS, WE'RE LIMITING STAFF REPORTS TO FIVE

10:09:44AM MINUTES EACH.

10:09:45AM AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF REPORTS.

10:09:46AM I THINK EVERYBODY WANTED STAFF TO APPEAR FOR THIS.

10:09:50AM I'M GOING TO -- I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH STAFF REPORTS FOR

10:09:53AM JUST REPORTS WITH STAFF.

10:09:56AM WE'LL HAVE TO START HAVING A MORE RESTRAINED, I GUESS MAYBE,




10:10:00AM FIVE, SIX PER COUNCIL SESSION.

10:10:03AM BECAUSE TODAY WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT.

10:10:05AM IF YOU COULD CALENDAR EACH, PLEASE, FOR FIVE MINUTES, I'D

10:10:09AM APPRECIATE IT.

10:10:10AM COUNCILMAN, IF YOU WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.

10:10:12AM >> I'M LIEUTENANT PAT MESSMER WITH SPECIAL OPERATIONS

10:10:17AM DIVISION OF TPD.

10:10:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T CALL YOU IN BECAUSE I'M FOR OR

10:10:21AM AGAINST IT.

10:10:21AM JUST I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS OVERNIGHT ASKING WHAT THIS IS

10:10:25AM FOR.

10:10:26AM HOW IT WILL BE USED, WHAT RIGHTS DO CITIZENS HAVE IN

10:10:29AM RELATION TO HOW THE DRONES WILL BE USED.

10:10:32AM IT'S ITEM NUMBER 20.

10:10:33AM >> SURE.

10:10:35AM WE'RE BASICALLY USED UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS AS A WAY TO

10:10:40AM SUPPLEMENT HELICOPTERS.

10:10:41AM UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE FREEDOM FROM UNWANTED SURVEILLANCE

10:10:44AM ACT, WHICH IS FLORIDA STATUTE 934.50, NOW THAT STATUTE

10:10:48AM ACTUALLY PROHIBITS US FROM USING DRONES FOR EVIDENCE

10:10:51AM GATHERING OR SURVEILLANCE OR REALLY ANY KIND OF GATHERING OF

10:10:56AM INFORMATION UNLESS CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE MET, SUCH AS WE HAVE

10:10:59AM A SEARCH WARRANT.

10:11:00AM WE HAVE A SUSPECT WHO IS FLEEING ACTIVELY.

10:11:03AM WE HAVE A MISSING PERSON WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR FORENSICALLY




10:11:06AM MAPPING TRAFFIC CRASH SCENE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

10:11:10AM ANY KIND OF CONCERN THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS FOR

10:11:12AM SURVEILLANCE OR USE IT FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OR MONITORING

10:11:17AM CROWDS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CANNOT LEGALLY DO THAT UNDER

10:11:20AM THE STATUTE.

10:11:21AM OUR POLICY PROHIBITS US FROM DOING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

10:11:24AM AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY ARE GOING TO BE USED.

10:11:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK I GOT, AND I

10:11:30AM DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR

10:11:32AM EDUCATION ON IT, BUT SOME FOLKS SAID THAT THERE'S AN

10:11:36AM EXCEPTION FOR POTENTIAL TERRORIST TARGETS.

10:11:39AM I THINK THE ARAB OR MUSLIM COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES

10:11:42AM ARE WORRIED ABOUT SURVEILLANCE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THAT.

10:11:47AM IS THAT ACCURATE?

10:11:49AM >> SO THE WAY THE ACT READS, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO

10:11:52AM COUNTER A HIGH RISK OF TERRORIST ATTACK BY A SPECIFIC

10:11:55AM INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION IF THE UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF

10:11:59AM HOMELAND SECURITY DETERMINES THE CREDIBLE INTELLIGENCE

10:12:04AM INDICATES THERE IS SUCH A RISK.

10:12:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN'T USE IT FOR REGULAR MONITORING OF A

10:12:08AM CERTAIN GROUP.

10:12:10AM >> WE HAVE RESEARCHED THIS.

10:12:11AM THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY SITUATION I'M AWARE OF WHERE THE

10:12:14AM SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS MADE THIS DETERMINATION.

10:12:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.




10:12:18AM I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN LAST MINUTE.

10:12:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:12:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, MR. CARLSON.

10:12:24AM I WAS TALKING TO THE CHIEF YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS ITEM, NOT

10:12:28AM ONLY FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE OR A PRIVACY PERSPECTIVE,

10:12:33AM BUT ALSO FROM A MONETARY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THE $115,000.

10:12:38AM THAT'S ONE EXPENSIVE DRONE.

10:12:40AM THEN HE INFORMED ME OR REMINDED ME, HE SAID IT MIGHT BE FOUR

10:12:44AM DRONES.

10:12:45AM >> THERE'S ACTUALLY FIVE.

10:12:46AM IN ADDITION TO THIS, THERE'S SOME TRAINING COSTS.

10:12:49AM WE HAVE TO GET OUR OFFICERS LICENSED THROUGH THE FAA.

10:12:52AM SO THERE'S TRAINING COSTS.

10:12:54AM THERE'S LICENSING COSTS.

10:12:55AM AND THESE ARE MUCH MORE ROBUST AND THEY HAVE MUCH MORE

10:13:00AM ADVANCED CAPABILITIES --

10:13:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ASSURE US THERE'S NO WEAPONS ON BOARD.

10:13:05AM >> THEY ARE NOT WEAPONIZED.

10:13:06AM IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR POLICY THAT WEAPONS ARE PROHIBITED ON

10:13:09AM THEM.

10:13:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAY THAT JOKINGLY BUT HOPEFULLY IN ALL

10:13:15AM SERIOUSNESS AS WELL.

10:13:16AM I'M NOT REALLY SURE, LIKE WITH A HELICOPTER, I WOULD ASSUME

10:13:23AM THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A REPORT MADE.

10:13:26AM THE HELICOPTER TOOK OFF FOR THIS PURPOSE OR WHATEVER, AND




10:13:29AM THERE'S LIKE A DAILY LOG OR SOMETHING.

10:13:33AM WOULD THERE SIMILARLY BE A LOG FOR THE USE OF THE DRONES.

10:13:43AM PERHAPS IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THAT TPD COULD GENERATE A

10:13:48AM REPORT TO COUNCIL ANNUALLY.

10:13:49AM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN PERSON, JUST TO GENERATE A REPORT

10:13:52AM TO LET US KNOW THE USE OF THE DRONES IN THE FUTURE.

10:13:56AM THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN BE REASSURED THAT WE ARE STAYING

10:14:00AM WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE STATUTE.

10:14:03AM >> THERE WILL BE A DOCUMENTATION KEPT BY THE DEPARTMENT AS

10:14:06AM TO EVERY TIME THEY ARE DEPLOYED.

10:14:08AM THE OFFICER WHO DEPLOYS IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO FILL OUT

10:14:12AM PAPERWORK ABOUT THAT DEPLOYMENT THAT WILL BE KEPT AND IT

10:14:15AM WILL BE OPEN TO PUBLIC RECORDS.

10:14:18AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY POINT IS COULD IT BE IN THE

10:14:21AM FORM OF A SUMMARY.

10:14:22AM OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T NEED OR WANT TO SEE THE DETAILS ABOUT

10:14:25AM THE ADDRESS.

10:14:27AM YOU MIGHT BE DOING IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST IN

10:14:30AM GENERAL FORM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP

10:14:33AM OF THE STATUTE.

10:14:34AM >> I WOULDN'T SEE ANY REASON WHY NOT.

10:14:37AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THE

10:14:39AM MEETING ALONG THOSE LINES.

10:14:40AM THANK YOU.

10:14:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.




10:14:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WILL THE PUBLIC, IF

10:14:46AM THIS COUNCIL ENACTS THIS, WILL THE PUBLIC BE AWARE WE'LL BE

10:14:50AM UTILIZING THESE TYPES OF DRONES?

10:14:52AM I DON'T WANT TO GET CALLS, I SEE SOMETHING IN THE AIR, WILL

10:14:56AM THERE BE ANY PSAs OR ANY TYPE OF COMMUNICATION TO THE

10:14:59AM PUBLIC THAT THIS WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?

10:15:04AM >> I WOULD IMAGINE OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE ONCE WE

10:15:06AM IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM WILL BE PUTTING OUT A SOCIAL MEDIA

10:15:08AM CAMPAIGN OR MENTIONING IT TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT WILL BE

10:15:12AM USED.

10:15:12AM AS TO EVERY SINGLE DEPLOYMENT, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVE

10:15:15AM SOMETHING GOING ON AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING --

10:15:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

10:15:19AM BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT IT, IF THIS BODY GOES ALONG WITH THIS

10:15:22AM RECOMMENDATION, MAKING SURE THAT THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE

10:15:26AM THIS IS SOMETHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE USING AND

10:15:28AM THEY KNOW THE PARAMETERS OF WHY WE'RE USING IT.

10:15:31AM >> YES, THAT IS IN OUR PLAN IS TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC

10:15:33AM INFORMATION OFFICE BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.

10:15:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION TO MAKE

10:15:38AM SURE WE DO THAT.

10:15:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

10:15:39AM ANYONE ELSE.

10:15:41AM THANK YOU, SIR.

10:15:42AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE.




10:15:43AM YOU AREN'T HERE FOR ANY OTHER ITEMS, CORRECT?

10:15:47AM >> I'M NOT.

10:15:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

10:15:50AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING.

10:15:52AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD.

10:15:54AM TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, FOR STAFF REPORTS, WE USUALLY BREAK

10:16:01AM AT 10 A.M., MORE OR LESS FOR STAFF REPORTS.

10:16:07AM THAT WILL THEN PUSH BACK THE PROSPECTIVE TIME FOR PUBLIC

10:16:11AM COMMENT.

10:16:11AM USUALLY WE BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT AT 9:35 OR 9:45.

10:16:17AM UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY WITH OUR AGENDA, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

10:16:19AM MY APOLOGIES.

10:16:21AM BUT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN THAT REGARD.

10:16:23AM NEXT, WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 46 FOR -- NUMBER 96 ANGUS R.

10:16:39AM GOSS POOL.

10:16:45AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

10:16:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, YOU'RE NOT RECOGNIZING

10:16:49AM [SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE]

10:16:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

10:16:54AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

10:16:54AM [SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE]

10:16:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

10:16:58AM THAT'S IT.

10:16:59AM WE'RE TAKING A THREE-MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL COME BACK,

10:17:02AM MR. DIAL, TO CALM THINGS DOWN.

10:17:04AM [RECESS]

10:19:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: BACK IN SESSION.

10:19:13AM MR. DIAL.

10:19:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:19:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

10:19:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

10:19:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

10:19:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

10:19:29AM OKAY.

10:19:31AM MR. DIAL, GO AHEAD.

10:19:32AM I WOULD ASK CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN ABUNDANT NUMBER OF

10:19:34AM STAFF REPORTS TODAY, TO MOVE THROUGH BRISKLY SO THAT WE CAN

10:19:38AM GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

10:19:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE MR. DIAL STARTS, I WANT TO MAKE

10:19:45AM COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING AS IT RELATES TO THE

10:19:47AM SITUATION HERE.

10:19:48AM I THINK IT'S DUE FOR A CONVERSATION.

10:19:51AM I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE SITUATION.

10:19:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

10:19:54AM GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:19:56AM >>PAUL DIAL: GOOD MORNING.

10:19:57AM PAUL DIAL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

10:19:59AM I'VE BEEN ASKED TO COME BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE

10:20:03AM PLANS FOR ANGUS GOSS POOL AND BALDOMERO LOPEZ POOL IN THE

10:20:10AM CITY OF TAMPA.




10:20:10AM WE HAVE PROVIDED A REPORT TO YOU SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

10:20:14AM IT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN JUST A BRIEF HISTORY OF THAT.

10:20:18AM IT DOES PROVIDE A HISTORY OF BOTH OF THE SWIMMING POOLS THAT

10:20:21AM WERE THERE.

10:20:22AM THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN CLOSED FOR MANY YEARS.

10:20:24AM AS WELL AS DESCRIBING THE DEFICIENCIES AT EACH OF THE POOLS

10:20:30AM AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

10:20:31AM WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED SOME NATIONAL STANDARDS SHOWING THE

10:20:37AM STANDARDS FOR THE AMOUNT OF POOLS PER POPULATION ACROSS THE

10:20:41AM COUNTRY AND BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION.

10:20:45AM THE STANDARD LOOKED AT IS ONE POOL FOR EVERY 36,000 PEOPLE.

10:20:50AM TAMPA IS ABOUT ONE POOL FOR EVERY 32,000 PEOPLE.

10:20:53AM SO WE'RE A BIT AHEAD OF THE NATIONAL STANDARD.

10:20:56AM IT SHOWED THE STANDARDS IN FLORIDA AND WITH POPULATIONS OF

10:20:59AM CITIES OF 250,000 TO 500,000.

10:21:04AM AND IN THE 250 TO 500 THOUSAND, IT'S ABOUT 64,000 PEOPLE PER

10:21:09AM POOL.

10:21:09AM SO WE'RE WELL AHEAD OF THOSE NUMBERS.

10:21:12AM WE ALSO PROVIDED SOME NUMBERS RELATED TO ATTENDANCE AND THE

10:21:17AM 12 POOL LOCATIONS AND THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE POOLS TO THE

10:21:21AM COMMUNITY.

10:21:21AM I DID WANT TO SAY THAT SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE,

10:21:26AM THERE WERE DOLLARS PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR A STUDY RELATED

10:21:30AM TO THE TWO POOLS.

10:21:31AM THIS HAS EVOLVED OVER THE TIME, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS,




10:21:34AM AND WITH THE MAYOR APPROVING THE FUNDING FOR THE

10:21:38AM COMPREHENSIVE PARK -- PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, PART

10:21:41AM OF THAT PROCESS WILL BE THAT THESE POOLS WILL BE INCLUDED

10:21:45AM AND DEVELOPED IN THE SCOPE SO THAT THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN,

10:21:49AM THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT SEPARATELY.

10:21:51AM IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE COMBINED TOGETHER, MARRIED, BECAUSE

10:21:56AM IT'S ALL ONE PARK SYSTEM, ONE GROUP OF FACILITIES.

10:21:59AM THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS THAT IS GOING TO BE

10:22:02AM GOING ON NEXT YEAR.

10:22:04AM WE'RE WORKING ON A CONSULTANT HOPEFULLY COMING IN EARLY IN

10:22:08AM 2020 BEING SELECTED.

10:22:10AM WE HAVE THE MASTER PLAN MEETINGS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED.

10:22:13AM WE HAVE THE SECOND ONE OF THOSE TONIGHT AT KID MASON WHERE

10:22:16AM WE'RE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC AND JUST GETTING INPUT PRIOR

10:22:20AM TO THE CONSULTANT COMING ON BOARD.

10:22:22AM IT ALL IS KIND OF PULLED TOGETHER.

10:22:24AM THAT'S THE UPDATE.

10:22:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:22:26AM ANY QUESTIONS?

10:22:27AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:22:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

10:22:30AM THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.

10:22:31AM TWO THINGS, ONE, DO WE STILL HAVE THAT SWIMMING POOL OVER BY

10:22:36AM COLEMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL OFF OF MANHATTAN?

10:22:41AM >>PAUL DIAL: INTERBAY?




10:22:46AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHARLIE, DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF IT?

10:22:49AM DO YOU KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT?

10:22:52AM IT'S BY COLEMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL, IN THAT WESTSHORE AREA.

10:22:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ESTRELLA.

10:22:58AM I THINK IT'S THERE BETWEEN COLEMAN AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL

10:23:05AM -- THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

10:23:06AM >>PAUL DIAL: A LISTING OF ALL THE POOLS ARE LISTED HERE.

10:23:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SURE IT'S STILL THERE AND STILL

10:23:13AM FUNCTIONAL.

10:23:14AM THE ONLY REASON I POINT IT OUT, WHEN I PICTURE IN MY MIND

10:23:17AM WHAT THAT POOL LOOKS LIKE, I THINK IT WAS IN THE SAME FAMILY

10:23:21AM OF GENERATION OF POOLS AS THE GOSS AND THE BALDOMERO POOL.

10:23:28AM I VISUALIZE IT, IT'S ABOVEGROUND -- NOT ABOVEGROUND -- IT'S

10:23:35AM HIGHER.

10:23:36AM IT HAS A LOT OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT WE CRITICIZE THESE TWO

10:23:40AM POOLS.

10:23:40AM I KNOW IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.

10:23:42AM I THINK ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES NOW WITH THE TWO POOLS IS

10:23:45AM THEY ARE FILLED WITH DIRT.

10:23:47AM THAT DIDN'T GET MENTIONED IN YOUR LIST OF DEFICIENCIES.

10:23:49AM ANYWAY, I THINK SOME MISTAKES WERE MADE IN THE PAST.

10:23:52AM I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

10:23:55AM I HOPE THAT IT WILL INCLUDE RECREATIONAL POOLS FOR THESE

10:23:59AM COMMUNITIES IN SOME SENSE.

10:24:01AM SO THANK YOU.




10:24:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

10:24:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAS THERE BEEN A COST FACTOR IN THESE POOLS

10:24:09AM YET?

10:24:11AM >>PAUL DIAL: THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

10:24:12AM THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WITHIN THE

10:24:15AM STUDY OF THE COST RELATED TO THE TWO SITES.

10:24:17AM AGAIN, THAT WILL BE INTO THE SCOPE FOR THE CONSULTANT, BUT

10:24:22AM NO COST AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE ALSO DON'T HAVE THE SCOPE OF

10:24:25AM THE PROJECT, SO YOU NEED THE SCOPE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT

10:24:28AM YOU'RE LOOKING AT OR THE -- FOR THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THE

10:24:34AM COSTS ARE DETERMINED.

10:24:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:24:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT FOR THE ANGUS GOSS POOL,

10:24:41AM $4 MILLION FOR A WHOLE BRAND-NEW, FROM SCRATCH, NOT A

10:24:44AM RENOVATION, BUT MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT AND WHATNOT AND

10:24:48AM MODERNIZING IT.

10:24:50AM >>PAUL DIAL: AGAIN, STAFF LOOKED AT FROM THE CONCEPT, WHEN

10:24:52AM WE SAY "A POOL."

10:24:54AM A POOL CAN BE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, SIZE, LOOKING AT

10:24:59AM 25 YARDS, 25-METER, 75 FEET.

10:25:03AM ARE YOU LOOKING AT A SPLASH PAD WITH THAT, A BABY POOL,

10:25:08AM OFFICE AREA.

10:25:11AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS GO INTO DETERMINING THE TYPE OF

10:25:13AM FACILITY.

10:25:14AM HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN




10:25:16AM PROCESS OF LOOKING AT, DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE

10:25:19AM WANTING.

10:25:20AM THE COST THAT WE GAVE BEFORE WAS AN ESTIMATE WITHOUT REALLY

10:25:24AM HAVING ANY KIND OF SCOPE IN MIND AT THIS TIME, WITH THAT

10:25:27AM THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

10:25:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:25:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

10:25:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST, COULD YOU PLEASE -- I READ

10:25:33AM YOUR REPORT, BUT COULD YOU PLEASE TRY TO LOOK AT

10:25:36AM REVENUE-GENERATING FACILITIES THERE, TOO, RESTAURANTS OR

10:25:41AM SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REVENUE-GENERATING THAT WOULD HELP

10:25:43AM SUBSIDIZE THE REST OF IT.

10:25:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

10:25:46AM THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.

10:25:47AM WE APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

10:25:49AM NEXT, WE MOVE TO MS. DUNCAN FOR 97.

10:25:53AM AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT EVERYTHING TO FIVE MINUTES EACH

10:26:01AM SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG BRISKLY.

10:26:03AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:26:03AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

10:26:06AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

10:26:06AM JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES

10:26:09AM DEPARTMENT.

10:26:09AM YOU HAD ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION REGARDING OUR BRICK

10:26:14AM STREETS.




10:26:14AM I SUBMITTED A REPORT, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKET

10:26:18AM THERE.

10:26:18AM THE QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH OUR P.I.P.E.S. PROJECTS COMING

10:26:22AM ALONG, WHICH WILL BE, OF COURSE, TEARING UP MANY OF THE

10:26:25AM STREETS IN ORDER TO PUT IN NEW WATER OR WASTEWATER LINES,

10:26:29AM POTENTIALLY STORMWATER COMPONENTS AS WELL.

10:26:32AM WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW OUR CITY CODE AND OUR PROTOCOL OF

10:26:37AM PROTECTING OUR VITRIFIED BRICK STREETS IN OUR HISTORIC

10:26:40AM AREAS.

10:26:41AM ANY STREETS THAT ARE ASPHALT, BRICK, OR ASPHALTED OVER,

10:26:46AM THOSE WILL NOT BE RESTORED TO ANY SORT OF BRICK CONDITION

10:26:51AM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROCESS AS WE HAVE BEEN.

10:26:54AM I JUST DO WANT TO SAY WITH THE PIPES PROJECT COMING OUT,

10:26:58AM NONE OF THOSE PROJECT AREAS WILL BE WITHIN OUR HISTORIC

10:27:02AM DISTRICT AREA FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS.

10:27:06AM SO THERE CERTAINLY IS SOME TIME TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT BRICK

10:27:11AM VERSUS ASPHALT, AND IF THERE'S ANY ADJUSTMENTS WE WOULD WANT

10:27:15AM TO MAKE.

10:27:16AM THERE'S TIME TO DO THAT.

10:27:17AM BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON THE SAME CODE AND

10:27:22AM PROTOCOLS WE HAVE AS WE UNDERTAKE THE PIPES PROJECT IN THE

10:27:26AM CITY OF TAMPA.

10:27:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:27:27AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DUNCAN?

10:27:29AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.




10:27:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:27:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST THIS IS AN ISSUE, OF COURSE, OF BIG

10:27:38AM CONCERN OF MY DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY IN THE HYDE PARK AREA.

10:27:42AM AND THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT LOSING THE BRICKS.

10:27:44AM I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU LATER.

10:27:45AM I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING THIS UP IN ANOTHER WAY.

10:27:49AM I'D LIKE TO SEE ANY PROPOSALS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON ORDINANCES

10:27:51AM THAT WE CAN PUT IN TO PROTECT THE BRICKS.

10:27:53AM BUT ONE QUESTION I WAS ASKED IS THAT SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE

10:27:56AM A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT CAN EXTRACT THE ASPHALT FROM

10:28:01AM BRICKS.

10:28:01AM I SAW THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION IN YOUR REPORT WHERE ASPHALT IS

10:28:05AM KIND OF STUCK ONTO BRICKS AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO PULL APART.

10:28:08AM I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT USED IN OTHER

10:28:10AM CITIES THAT EXTRACTS IT ON THE SPOT, BUT IT'S KIND OF

10:28:13AM EXPENSIVE.

10:28:14AM DO WE HAVE THAT OR CAN WE GET THAT?

10:28:16AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

10:28:18AM WE ARE AWARE OF IT, AND IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

10:28:20AM WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY GOOD BRICK CONTRACTOR WHO HIS

10:28:25AM EXPERIENCE IS DEMONSTRATING THAT A LOT OF TIMES IF SOME OF

10:28:29AM THESE BRICKS CAN BE EXTRACTED AND STORED, THAT WITHIN A

10:28:34AM CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THAT ASPHALT CRACKS AND FALLS OFF

10:28:38AM NATURALLY FROM THE BRICKS.

10:28:39AM SO WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN EXPLORING WHAT ARE SOME OTHER




10:28:43AM THINGS WE COULD DO TO RESTORE THE BRICKS THAT WE DO HAVE AND

10:28:48AM REUTILIZE THEM.

10:28:50AM THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE PIPES PROJECT WILL NOT BE IN THE

10:28:56AM HISTORICAL AREA ANY TIME SOON.

10:29:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOST IMPORTANT INTEREST FROM MY DISTRICT

10:29:02AM THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR IS JUST TO RETAIN THE BRICKS SO WE

10:29:04AM CAN USE THEM AGAIN.

10:29:05AM WE HAVE A SHORTAGE MAYBE FOR 7th AVENUE.

10:29:08AM BUT SOME PLACES WANT TO GET THE BRICKS RESTORED.

10:29:10AM IF WE LOSE THEM, WE LOSE THEM FOREVER.

10:29:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:29:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MS. DUNCAN.

10:29:17AM I READ THE MEMO DATED OCTOBER 29th.

10:29:25AM I GUESS ONE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY

10:29:30AM IN THEIR INFINITE WISDOM CAME ALONG AND PAVED OVER QUITE A

10:29:34AM FEW BRICK STREETS.

10:29:35AM IF YOU DO HAVE TO TEAR UP THOSE STREETS, THOSE BRICKS ARE IN

10:29:43AM MANY CASES STILL THERE, BUT THEY'VE GOT ASPHALT ON TOP OF

10:29:47AM THEM.

10:29:48AM MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.

10:29:50AM BUT IF YOU FLIP THE BRICK OVER, ISN'T IT STILL JUST A NICE

10:29:54AM USABLE BRICK?

10:29:56AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT COULD BE THE CASE.

10:29:58AM THE PROBLEM WE HAVE SEEN IN EXPLORING THE REUTILIZATION OF

10:30:03AM THOSE BRICKS IS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EXTRACT THEM OUT WITH




10:30:08AM THE MACHINES THAT WE HAVE TO USE WITHOUT DESTROYING A

10:30:12AM CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE BRICKS.

10:30:14AM SO IT'S A DIFFICULT PROCESS TO -- IT WOULD BE VERY LABOR

10:30:18AM INTENSIVE TO EXTRACT THEM OUT WITHOUT DAMAGING THEM IN THE

10:30:22AM PROCESS WITH CURRENT PRACTICES THAT WE USE.

10:30:25AM THE PROTOCOL HAS BEEN ASPHALTS IT OVER AND THE BRICKS HAVE

10:30:32AM SETTLED AND THEY ARE WAY DOWN IN THE BASE OF THE ROAD AT

10:30:35AM THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO RESTORE THEM

10:30:39AM BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO --

10:30:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'M NOT SUGGESTING RESTORATION.

10:30:43AM I CAN SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO SCRAPE OFF

10:30:46AM OR CHEMICALLY DISSOLVE THAT ASPHALT FROM THE TOP OF THE

10:30:52AM BRICK.

10:30:52AM THAT LEADS TO MY QUESTION OF FLIPPING IT OVER AND USING THE

10:30:57AM OTHER SIDE.

10:30:58AM BRAD AND HIS TEAM -- I GUESS THEY LEFT -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE

10:31:05AM GOING TO BE DIGGING UP THE ENTIRE STREET IN MANY CASES.

10:31:13AM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO LOOK INTO

10:31:16AM THIS, BUT I'D LIKE US TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER IN TERMS OF

10:31:19AM THIS NOTION OF JUST USING THE FLIP SIDE.

10:31:22AM NOW, ONE OTHER SUGGESTION --

10:31:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: QUICKLY, IF I MAY INTERJECT, COUNCILMAN

10:31:27AM DINGFELDER, LET'S HURRY UP AND WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE WE WANT

10:31:29AM TO MOVE FORWARD.

10:31:31AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO ALSO HAS A QUESTION.




10:31:33AM GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:31:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IT

10:31:38AM SPEAKS TO $2.3 MILLION PER LINEAR MILE FOR A TWO-LANE

10:31:44AM STREET.

10:31:44AM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE PRICE OF JUST

10:31:50AM STANDARD PAVING FOR A LINEAR STREET.

10:31:55AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT WAS DONE WITHIN THE TIME FRAME WE HAD TO

10:31:57AM KIND OF GIVE A SENSE, ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

10:32:01AM THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DYNAMICS THAT COULD COME IN IN

10:32:06AM TERMS OF, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S NOT A HARD AND

10:32:09AM FAST NUMBER FOR EVERY SINGLE CASE.

10:32:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.

10:32:13AM SO FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, SO WE

10:32:17AM KNOW, OKAY IT MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, BUT AS YOU

10:32:20AM KNOW, AND YOU ADVOCATE, BRICK STREETS ARE A TRAFFIC-CALMING

10:32:24AM DEVICE.

10:32:24AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.

10:32:25AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF NICE SO WE DON'T

10:32:27AM HAVE TO PUT IN SPEED BUMPS AND HAVE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS.

10:32:32AM MY STREET IS A BRICK STREET.

10:32:33AM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BRICK STREET.

10:32:35AM IT'S GOT A PARK AT THE END OF IT.

10:32:37AM BUT PEOPLE TEND TO DRIVE A LOT SLOWER BECAUSE THEY DON'T

10:32:40AM WANT TO RATTLE THEIR CAR TO DEATH ON THE BRICK STREET, WHICH

10:32:43AM IS FINE WITH ME.




10:32:44AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I

10:32:49AM APPRECIATE THE TIME CONSTRAINT IS IN REGARD TO THIS NOTION,

10:32:53AM THIS ISN'T JUST A HISTORIC DISTRICT ISSUE.

10:32:55AM THERE ARE STREETS ALL OVER TOWN THAT GOT PAVED OVER, THAT

10:33:00AM LOST THEIR BRICK STREETS, IN PALMA CEIA AND SEMINOLE

10:33:07AM HEIGHTS, AND OTHER PLACES THAT ARE NOT STRICTLY DESIGNATED

10:33:11AM HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

10:33:13AM SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ON THAT AS WELL.

10:33:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:33:18AM NEXT, MR. THOM SNELLING.

10:33:21AM [SHOUTING FROM AUDIENCE]

10:33:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, DO YOU WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK

10:33:30AM WITH ME?

10:33:31AM I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT?

10:33:32AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT, STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK WITH ME?

10:33:37AM [SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE]

10:33:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SNELLING.

10:33:53AM >>THOM SNELLING: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, THOM SNELLING,

10:33:56AM PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.

10:33:57AM THERE ARE TWO ITEMS HERE, 98 AND 99.

10:34:04AM ADDRESSING 98, OUR REQUEST WAS TO GO AHEAD AND COMBINE THE

10:34:09AM MOTION THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND CONTINUE TO THE FEBRUARY 6

10:34:13AM MOTION.

10:34:13AM IT'S VIRTUALLY THE SAME MOTION WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL

10:34:17AM ON THE FEBRUARY 6, BECAUSE YOU DRILL DOWN INTO THE ACTUAL




10:34:20AM EXPENSE ON THAT.

10:34:21AM OUR REQUEST IS TO ROLL THIS MOTION, REMOVE IT FROM TODAY AND

10:34:24AM ROLL IT INTO THE FEBRUARY 6th DISCUSSION.

10:34:26AM THAT WAS BASICALLY THE REQUEST.

10:34:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT A MOTION, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE,

10:34:31AM MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:34:32AM I MOVE THAT.

10:34:34AM FEBRUARY 6th.

10:34:36AM COMBINE THE TWO AND ROLL THEM INTO FEBRUARY 6.

10:34:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 98 AND 99 WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE ITEM

10:34:41AM FOR FEBRUARY 6.

10:34:42AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND BY

10:34:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:34:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:34:46AM ALL RIGHT.

10:34:47AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

10:34:49AM >>THOM SNELLING: THAT WAS PAINLESS, COUNCIL.

10:34:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:34:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 100, REGARDING CURRENT CODE

10:34:56AM ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.

10:35:01AM ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT?

10:35:04AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING.

10:35:05AM ANDREA ZELMAN.

10:35:06AM AS YOU'LL RECALL, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I PROVIDED YOU WITH A

10:35:09AM FOUR-PAGE MEMO AND A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE LIMITATIONS ON




10:35:14AM THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REGULATE THE LOCATION OF MEDICAL

10:35:18AM MARIJUANA TREATMENT FACILITIES AS WELL AS THE CULTIVATING

10:35:22AM AND PROCESSING FACILITIES.

10:35:24AM AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THE STATE HAS EXPRESSLY PREEMPTED

10:35:29AM THE REGULATION OF SUCH FACILITIES.

10:35:31AM THE ONLY LIMITATION YOU CAN PLACE ON A CULTIVATING AND

10:35:35AM PROCESSING FACILITY IS TO REQUIRE THAT IT BE LOCATED NO

10:35:39AM CLOSER THAN 500 FEET FROM A SCHOOL.

10:35:44AM WITH THE DISPENSARIES, THE CITY HAD THE OPTION TO OUTRIGHT

10:35:48AM BAN THEM.

10:35:48AM ONCE A CITY OR A COUNTY DECIDED NOT TO BAN THEM, AS THE CITY

10:35:51AM OF TAMPA DID BACK IN 2017, AGAIN, THE ONLY LOCATIONAL

10:35:56AM REQUIREMENT WAS THE 500-FEET DISTANCE FROM A SCHOOL, WHICH

10:36:00AM IN THE CASE OF DISPENSARIES, THE CITY CAN WAIVE PURSUANT TO

10:36:04AM A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.

10:36:07AM THE STATUTE ALSO EXPRESSLY STATES THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY

10:36:10AM LIMITATIONS ON THEIR LOCATION THAT'S MORE STRINGENT THAN

10:36:14AM WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR A PHARMACY, A DRUGSTORE IN THE

10:36:18AM CITY.

10:36:19AM SO THE POINT BEING, WE DID LOOK.

10:36:21AM WE DID RESEARCH, WE DID DISCUSS THIS WITH OTHER

10:36:24AM JURISDICTIONS.

10:36:26AM REALLY, ANY FURTHER ZONING RESTRICTIONS ON THESE FACILITIES

10:36:30AM ARE PREEMPTED BY THE STATE.

10:36:33AM SO THERE REALLY IS NOTHING MORE THAT THE CITY CAN DO IN




10:36:38AM THESE INSTANCES THAN WE ARE ALREADY DOING UNDER OUR CODE.

10:36:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO AND THEN COUNCILMAN

10:36:45AM GUDES.

10:36:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ZELMAN --

10:36:53AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DO WE HAVE ONGOING LITIGATION ON THIS ITEM?

10:36:56AM NO, WE DON'T.

10:36:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

10:36:58AM PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, PEOPLE IN THE VIEWING, THIS IS

10:37:01AM ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF TALLAHASSEE TYING YOUR HANDS, NOT OUR

10:37:07AM HANDS, NOT CITY COUNCIL'S HANDS.

10:37:09AM I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR CITY COUNCIL.

10:37:11AM THIS IS ME SPEAKING.

10:37:12AM THEY ARE TYING YOUR HANDS.

10:37:14AM YOU CAN'T COME TO TELL US WHERE OR WHERE WE CANNOT PUT THESE

10:37:19AM GROW HOUSES AND DISPENSARIES.

10:37:21AM I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THEM IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:37:25AM PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT -- EXCUSE ME -- IF RECREATIONAL

10:37:29AM MARIJUANA PASSES, THEY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE

10:37:32AM MARIJUANA.

10:37:33AM THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY.

10:37:34AM WHERE THESE GROW HOUSES AND WHERE THESE DISPENSARIES ARE

10:37:37AM LOCATED, YES, I CAN HAVE A VOICE IN THAT.

10:37:40AM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TALLAHASSEE IS TYING YOUR HANDS, NOT

10:37:42AM OURS.

10:37:43AM WE'RE UNABLE TO LISTEN TO YOU.




10:37:45AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:37:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT JUST SICKENS ME.

10:37:48AM IT SICKENS ME THAT WE HAVE NO POWER TO STOP THIS TYPE OF

10:37:53AM FACILITY FROM BEING IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY

10:37:56AM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER STRESS.

10:38:00AM IT REALLY ANGERS ME.

10:38:02AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, APPARENTLY THEY

10:38:03AM ARE DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING IT.

10:38:06AM THE CITY WILL SAY WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A LITIGATION

10:38:10AM SITUATION, APPARENTLY THE OTHER CITIES, THEY DON'T CARE

10:38:13AM ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

10:38:14AM THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT A LITIGATION PROCESS.

10:38:15AM NO ONE HAS STARTED TO LITIGATE AGAINST THEM.

10:38:19AM I DON'T LIKE TO BE A PERSON WHO RUNS FROM A SITUATION.

10:38:23AM I DON'T WANT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO FEEL THAT IF WE DO NOT

10:38:27AM DO NOTHING OR IF WE DO SOMETHING, WE'LL GET SUED.

10:38:30AM WE GET SUED EVERY DAY, THE CITY DOES.

10:38:32AM I'M REALLY DISHEARTENED THAT WE CAN'T EVEN PUT AN ORDINANCE

10:38:38AM IN PLACE TO SAY IT NEEDS TO BE ON AN OPEN HIGHWAY.

10:38:42AM WE CAN'T PUT AN ORDINANCE IN THAT SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE AWAY

10:38:47AM -- PEOPLE CAN SMOKE MARIJUANA.

10:38:50AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.

10:38:52AM PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A COMMUNITY.

10:38:54AM I'M PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE END THAT WE GET A

10:38:56AM RESOLUTION TO SEND TO TALLAHASSEE AND HOPE COUNCIL WILL




10:38:59AM SUPPORT ME ON THAT, BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT'S WRONG THAT

10:39:03AM MS. ZELMAN'S OFFICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP OUR CITIZENS.

10:39:07AM NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT I'M FRUSTRATED THAT WE CAN'T DO

10:39:10AM SOMETHING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE.

10:39:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:39:15AM ANYBODY ELSE?

10:39:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:39:16AM WE'LL GO TO ITEM -- WHAT IS 66?

10:39:29AM LET'S DO THE STAFF REPORTS.

10:39:31AM THERE'S TWO LEFT.

10:39:32AM NUMBER 101 REGARDING LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES FROM

10:39:36AM ENCOURAGING THEM TO CONTRACT WITH COMPANIES TO USE --

10:39:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS MR. VIERA'S CASE.

10:39:44AM IF WE COULD HOLD THAT.

10:39:45AM I BELIEVE HE WILL HANDLE THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

10:39:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BENCHES IN

10:39:50AM LYKES GASLIGHT PARK.

10:39:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]

10:40:07AM >> SAL RUGGIERO TO SPEAK ON GASLIGHT PARK.

10:40:11AM APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO, THE BENCHES WERE REMOVED.

10:40:15AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE PARK NOW,

10:40:18AM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

10:40:20AM IT'S A POSITIVE.

10:40:21AM I THINK TAMPA, WE'RE DEVELOPING INTO A WORLD-CLASS CITY.

10:40:24AM THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A WORLD-CLASS AMENITY ALONG WITH




10:40:27AM SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

10:40:31AM THE GOAL RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE MAYOR IS TO RENOVATE AND

10:40:35AM ACTIVATE ALL THE PARKS IN THE CITY, BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO

10:40:40AM MAKE THE PARK A KEY DOWNTOWN ECONOMIC ASSET AND BECOME KNOWN

10:40:46AM AS DOWNTOWN TAMPA'S TOWN SQUARE.

10:40:49AM SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S STILL IN THE

10:40:53AM EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW

10:40:57AM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP TO PUT A CAFE IN THE GASLIGHT PARK,

10:41:05AM ALONG WITH SEATING AND TRY TO REJUVENATE THAT AREA.

10:41:08AM LIKE I SAY, THE TALKS ARE STILL ONGOING.

10:41:13AM WE BELIEVE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SPACE WILL ENHANCE THE

10:41:17AM OVERALL APPEARANCE AND MAKE IT MORE INVITING FOR RESIDENTS

10:41:21AM AND VISITORS TO ENJOY.

10:41:23AM THAT'S THE GOAL HERE.

10:41:25AM IT'S A POSITIVE STEP, I THINK.

10:41:29AM I HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE, SOME PARKS IN

10:41:36AM NEW YORK CITY THAT HAVE -- THAT'S ONE IN CENTRAL PARK.

10:41:47AM AND THIS IS A CONCEPT OF THE CAFE STYLE.

10:41:53AM YOU CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THE SPACE AND ALL

10:41:55AM THAT.

10:41:56AM AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE DIAGRAM THERE WHERE IT MIGHT SHOW

10:42:01AM UP, THE CONCEPT OF WHERE IT MIGHT SHOW UP IN GASLIGHT PARK.

10:42:09AM I THINK OVERALL, THE SPACE IS GOING TO GET REJUVENATED AND A

10:42:18AM MORE POSITIVE USE COMING UP.

10:42:21AM WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.




10:42:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:42:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:42:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT FLOODED WITH E-MAILS AND CALLS SINCE

10:42:33AM THE STORY CAME OUT.

10:42:34AM I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS IN

10:42:37AM PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:42:38AM THE PROBLEM WITH THIS NOW IS THE LAST MAYOR POLITICIZED THIS

10:42:43AM PARK.

10:42:43AM THROUGH HIS ACTIONS, HE SHOWED HE DIDN'T LIKE HOMELESS

10:42:46AM PEOPLE AND HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT POOR PEOPLE.

10:42:49AM NOW BECAUSE THIS PARK IS POLITICIZED, WHATEVER GOOD IDEAS

10:42:54AM MIGHT COME OUT, THE PROBLEM IS THE COMMUNITY SEES IT AS A

10:42:57AM SYMBOL OF HIS DISDAIN TOWARD HOMELESS PEOPLE.

10:43:01AM SOMEHOW, WE HAVE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE, AND THEN MAYBE COME

10:43:06AM BACK TO DISCUSSING WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PARTICULAR

10:43:11AM PARK.

10:43:11AM WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SENSITIVITY AND COMPASSION FOR HOMELESS

10:43:14AM PEOPLE AND POOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY, AS I PRESENTED A COUPLE

10:43:16AM OF WEEKS AGO, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WE'RE FACING IS THE HIGH

10:43:19AM POVERTY RATE IN OUR CITY, WHICH DIDN'T GET ANY BETTER AND I

10:43:22AM THINK GOT WORSE IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

10:43:24AM WE'VE GOT TO REALLY FOCUS ON THIS.

10:43:26AM THE PICTURES LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

10:43:28AM I'VE BEEN IN SOME OF THE PARKS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

10:43:30AM I SEE THAT IN THOSE PARKS, LIKE BRYANT PARK AND OTHERS,




10:43:33AM THERE'S PUBLIC ACCESS AND NOT JUST SEATING FOR CAFE OWNERS,

10:43:38AM SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, BECAUSE THE

10:43:40AM COMMUNITY IS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.

10:43:41AM THANK YOU.

10:43:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:43:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I REMEMBER DURING ONE OF THE COLLEGE

10:43:46AM CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES, THEY WERE FEEDING -- SOME GROUPS WERE

10:43:49AM FEEDING INDIVIDUALS IN THE PARK, AND THEY WERE ARRESTED.

10:43:52AM AND A VIDEO WENT VIRAL.

10:43:54AM WE WERE GETTING E-MAILS FROM, I DON'T KNOW, AMSTERDAM,

10:43:57AM HOLLAND, PARTS OF EUROPE THAT WERE CRITICIZING US FOR THE

10:44:02AM ARREST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE FEEDING THOSE IN NEED.

10:44:06AM I REMEMBER HAVING TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE WHERE YOU COULD

10:44:10AM HAVE SO MANY NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN A PARK WITHOUT HAVING

10:44:13AM TO PULL A PERMIT AND WHATNOT.

10:44:15AM MY QUOTE IN THE PAPER WAS, IN THE TIMES, WE NEED MORE LOVE

10:44:20AM AND COMPASSION.

10:44:21AM THE RESPONSE TO THAT WAS LATER ON, A YEAR AGO, REMOVING THE

10:44:25AM BENCHES FROM THE PARK FOR RENOVATION AND THEN THEY COULDN'T

10:44:28AM BE RENOVATED.

10:44:29AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

10:44:31AM I CAN'T GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY AND CALL MYSELF A CHRISTIAN

10:44:35AM AND ALLOW THIS NONSENSE TO GO ON.

10:44:41AM WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS.

10:44:43AM WE NEED TO TREAT EACH OTHER LIKE HUMAN BEINGS, AND WE DON'T




10:44:46AM SEE THAT.

10:44:47AM I'M NOT BLAMING YOU; I'M NOT BLAMING ANYONE IN PARTICULAR.

10:44:49AM BUT WE NEED TO DO BETTER AS A SOCIETY.

10:44:51AM WHAT I HEARD THE OTHER DAY WAS WE FORGET THAT WE ARE

10:44:53AM BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN LOVE, NOT IN CHRIST, IN LOVE, JUST

10:44:58AM IN THAT.

10:44:58AM SO MANY OF US ARE ONE STEP AWAY FROM HOMELESSNESS,

10:45:04AM HOUSELESSNESS, LOSING OUR JOB, NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT

10:45:05AM RENT, WHATEVER IT IS.

10:45:06AM WE NEED TO TREAT EACH OTHER BETTER AS HUMAN BEINGS.

10:45:09AM SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SITTING IN THE SHADE.

10:45:11AM IT'S HOT.

10:45:12AM EVEN IN THE SHADE IT'S HOT.

10:45:14AM I MET SO MANY INDIVIDUALS AT LYKES GASLIGHT PARK, ALL

10:45:17AM THROUGHOUT, I ASKED THEM, HOW DID YOU GET HERE?

10:45:20AM WHAT IS YOUR STORY?

10:45:21AM HOW DID IT HAPPEN?

10:45:22AM THE STORIES BREAK YOUR HEART.

10:45:23AM WHEN IT HAPPENS TO SOMEBODY YOU KNOW -- AND I LEARNED A LOT

10:45:26AM THROUGH THE GREAT RECESSION BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING PEOPLE

10:45:29AM LOSING THEIR JOBS, LOSING THEIR HOMES, SO MANY BAD THINGS.

10:45:33AM AND PEOPLE ARE FINALLY TEN YEARS LATER GETTING BACK ON THEIR

10:45:36AM FEET.

10:45:37AM YOU KNOW, GOING BACK, WE NEED TO DO BETTER AS PEOPLE AND AS

10:45:41AM A SOCIETY AND TREAT ONE ANOTHER WITH BETTER RESPECT.




10:45:44AM WHEN I SAW THE BENCHES BEING PULLED UP AND REPLACED WITH

10:45:47AM FLOWERPOTS, I GO, THIS IS A PARK.

10:45:49AM WHAT IF I WANT TO GO THERE AND HAVE A SANDWICH ON MY LUNCH

10:45:53AM BREAK, WHATEVER IT IS AND ENJOY THE PARK.

10:45:55AM THEN THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOWHERE TO GO AND ALL THEY DO

10:45:58AM IS GET SHUFFLED AROUND.

10:46:00AM WE FORGET WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A DECENT PERSON.

10:46:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIMES WE SUGARCOAT THINGS INSTEAD OF

10:46:14AM TELLING THEM THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW THINGS REALLY ARE.

10:46:17AM MY FRIEND SAL, WE WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE.

10:46:20AM HE KNOWS ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE.

10:46:23AM HE SOMETIMES HAD TO PUT PEOPLE OUT OF APARTMENTS, AND THEY

10:46:26AM BECOME HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR RENT.

10:46:29AM AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO EXPERIENCE.

10:46:32AM UNDERSTANDING HOW PEOPLE FEEL.

10:46:36AM A PARK, TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PARKS SINCE I'VE

10:46:40AM BEEN HERE.

10:46:41AM MR. MIRANDA BROUGHT IT UP CLEAR AS DAY, PARKS ARE THE

10:46:45AM LIVELIHOOD OF COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE.

10:46:47AM THAT'S WHERE THEY GO JUST TO THINK AND MEDITATE SOMETIMES.

10:46:52AM TO GET HEALTHY.

10:46:52AM WE HAVE A HOMELESS SITUATION.

10:46:55AM I'M FORTUNATE, A GENTLEMAN CAME TO SEE ME LAST WEEK WHO HAS

10:46:59AM AN IDEA ABOUT A HOMELESS SITUATION, HOW WE CAN HELP THOSE

10:47:02AM MOTHERS WHO DON'T HAVE A PLACE AND THEY GOT THE CHILDREN IN




10:47:06AM THE CAR ALL NIGHT LONG.

10:47:10AM OFFICER COMES UP, GOT TO MOVE ALONG.

10:47:12AM YOU GOT TO MOVE ALONG.

10:47:14AM YOU CAN'T BE HERE.

10:47:15AM OR OLDER GENTLEMAN WHO IS HOMELESS IN A CAR SOMEWHERE IN THE

10:47:19AM CITY.

10:47:19AM YOU HAVE TO MOVE ALONG.

10:47:20AM BUT THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP WITH A GOOD CONCEPT.

10:47:22AM I'LL PROBABLY HAVE HIM COME AND SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES

10:47:26AM HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE

10:47:29AM CAN SEE THIS IDEA.

10:47:30AM YOU HAVE MOTHERS WHO ALL NIGHT LONG WITH THESE KIDS, THEY GO

10:47:34AM TO McDONALD'S TO BATHE THEM, GET THEM READY FOR SCHOOL IN

10:47:37AM THE MORNING.

10:47:38AM I'VE SEEN THAT.

10:47:40AM IT'S HEART-WRENCHING.

10:47:43AM I'M HOPING THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPT FOR THIS

10:47:48AM PARK, AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN WAS ABLE TO GET THAT 400,000 TO

10:47:53AM GET THE PARK CONSERVATION GOING, WHERE IS IT GOING TO COME

10:47:56AM FROM?

10:47:57AM COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FIX THE PARK?

10:47:59AM COMING FROM THE CRA DOLLARS TO FIX THIS PARK.

10:48:01AM DOES IT COME FROM PUBLIC DOLLARS TO FIX IT?

10:48:05AM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP WILL HAVE CONTROL OF THE PARK,

10:48:07AM STILL BE OPERATED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA AND NOT THE




10:48:12AM PARTNERSHIP I GOT SEVERAL CALLS, WILL THE PARTNERSHIP BE IN

10:48:16AM CONTROL OF THIS?

10:48:18AM BECAUSE THEY FEEL THE PARTNERSHIP IS IN CONTROL, WE MAY

10:48:20AM AGAIN HAVE A DISDAIN FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE

10:48:24AM BEING IN THAT PARK.

10:48:26AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE ASPECTS,

10:48:31AM THAT ANYBODY CAN GO TO THAT PARK TO -- HOMELESS OR NOT.

10:48:35AM THEY MAY LOOK TERRIBLE, WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY IS TURNED

10:48:41AM AWAY OR FORCED NOT TO BE IN THE PARK.

10:48:43AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE AVENUES ARE REALLY LOOKED AT

10:48:46AM BEFORE I WOULD EVEN MAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

10:48:49AM THANK YOU, SAL.

10:48:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:48:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:48:53AM I LOVE THE PASSION OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN, ALL THREE OF

10:48:59AM YOU, IN REGARD TO THIS ISSUE.

10:49:01AM I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY, ESPECIALLY MR. MANISCALCO, IN

10:49:07AM REGARD TO THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES THAT WE ALL ASSERT ON

10:49:11AM THE WEEKENDS.

10:49:12AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASSERT IT ON THE WEEKDAYS AS

10:49:16AM WELL.

10:49:16AM FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

10:49:24AM NUMBER ONE IS, IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE

10:49:30AM BENCHES, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IN THIS CITY AND MANY OTHER

10:49:33AM CITIES, THERE ARE BENCHES THAT HAVE BARRIERS OR LITTLE HUMPS




10:49:38AM TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES AND YET STILL

10:49:41AM ALLOW THE BENCHES TO BE FUNCTIONAL FOR SITTING.

10:49:46AM SO IF THAT WAS THE PROBLEM BEFORE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD

10:49:49AM RETURN THE BENCHES TO THE PARK, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE

10:49:54AM NOT FOR SLEEPING.

10:49:56AM THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT

10:50:03AM IDEA TO ACTIVATE ALL OF OUR PARKS OR AS MANY PARKS AS

10:50:07AM POSSIBLE WITH VENDORS.

10:50:09AM I SEE THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP LEADERSHIP IS HERE IN THE

10:50:13AM BACK, AND I'M GLAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE SIGNAL TO BE

10:50:18AM WRONG THAT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO PUTTING A

10:50:20AM RESTAURANT IN THAT OR ANY OTHER PARK.

10:50:25AM I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ONE

10:50:27AM OR THE OTHER.

10:50:28AM I THINK WE CAN HAVE BENCHES AND WE CAN HAVE A RESTAURANT

10:50:31AM WITH PROPER SEATING.

10:50:33AM SO I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION TAKES THAT AS A TWO-PRONGED

10:50:37AM APPROACH.

10:50:38AM FINALLY, ON A SLIGHTLY RELATED NOTE, COUNCIL HAS BEEN HAVING

10:50:42AM THIS DISCUSSION ON A WEEKLY BASIS ABOUT A PARK FURTHER UP, A

10:50:46AM SMALL POCKET PARK FURTHER UP THAT'S UNDER RENOVATION, UP

10:50:50AM FRANKLIN --

10:50:52AM >> HERMAN MASSEY.

10:50:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MASSEY PARK, THANK YOU.

10:50:54AM MASSEY PARK, WHERE YOU HAVE A NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO WANTS




10:50:58AM TO DO A RESTAURANT TO ACTIVATE THE PARK THAT WOULD HELP WITH

10:51:01AM THE HOMELESS SITUATION.

10:51:03AM IT'S THE EXACT SAME SITUATION AND YET SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE

10:51:07AM GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF TRACTION OR COOPERATION WITH THE

10:51:09AM CITY.

10:51:09AM AND I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT SHE

10:51:13AM WANTS TO DO AND WHAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND THE PARKS

10:51:17AM DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT ON THIS ONE.

10:51:19AM THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON THAT ONE.

10:51:25AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I JUST WANT TO RESPOND.

10:51:27AM THERE WAS A MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT WITH THE DOWNTOWN

10:51:30AM CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO

10:51:34AM DEVELOP A CAFE AT HERMAN MASSEY PARK.

10:51:38AM AND THERE HAVE BEEN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, AND THE

10:51:41AM ADMINISTRATION HAS MET WITH THEM AS WELL.

10:51:44AM IT'S NOT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THE CITY IS IN ANY WAY

10:51:46AM REJECTING IT OR TRYING TO STYMIE IT.

10:51:50AM THE CITY IS, IN FACT, WORKING WITH THEM NOW.

10:51:52AM WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH A REPORT AT YOUR CRA

10:51:54AM MEETING ON THAT PARK, THE HERMAN MASSEY PARK, ON

10:51:57AM DECEMBER 14th.

10:52:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I

10:52:04AM WASN'T PRIVY TO THAT MEETING A WEEK AGO, BUT I'LL TELL YOU

10:52:07AM MY STATEMENT WAS PRETTY ACCURATE UP UNTIL A WEEK AGO.

10:52:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.




10:52:11AM ANYONE ELSE?

10:52:11AM I'LL PUT IN MY TWO CENTS.

10:52:13AM I SPOKE TO MR. FRAGO, WHO IS HERE ABOUT IT, AND THE TAMPA

10:52:17AM BAY TIMES.

10:52:18AM I ECHO SOME CONCERNS.

10:52:19AM ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS JUST TAKING OUR CONGREGATING SPACE

10:52:24AM DOWNTOWN AND THE IDEA OF TAKING GREENSPACE, CONGREGATING

10:52:27AM SPACE AND TURNING IT COMMERCIAL IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I'M

10:52:30AM VERY SUSPICIOUS OF, EVEN ON A LEVEL LIKE THIS, I AM.

10:52:34AM THERE'S A LOT TO BE LOOKED AT IN THIS.

10:52:38AM A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AND DIALOGUES TO BE HAD.

10:52:40AM TALKING RELIGIOUS, YOU CAN CALL ME A DOUBTING THOMAS RIGHT

10:52:43AM NOW.

10:52:43AM LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

10:52:44AM THERE WE GO.

10:52:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:52:46AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:52:47AM WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED WITH THIS.

10:52:49AM WE ARE AT NUMBER 104 WAS MS. KERT AND 105 AND THEN WE

10:52:55AM WILL --

10:52:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [INAUDIBLE]

10:52:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I'M SORRY.

10:52:59AM I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT IN THE BEGINNING.

10:53:01AM MR. SHELBY REMINDED ME.

10:53:04AM I HAD A BUSY WEEK IN MY LAW PRACTICE.




10:53:08AM I'LL BE CONTINUING THAT ANOTHER WEEK.

10:53:10AM 104, MS. KERT.

10:53:15AM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

10:53:16AM REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

10:53:18AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 104, WHICH WAS A REQUEST TO PREPARE AN

10:53:22AM ORDINANCE NOTIFYING CITIZENS OF DEMOLITIONS WITHIN THE CITY

10:53:25AM OF TAMPA.

10:53:27AM I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS MADE SO I DID GO

10:53:29AM BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEOTAPE.

10:53:31AM I'M SURE YOU ALL RECALL THAT THE GENESIS OF THIS WAS A

10:53:34AM CITIZEN HAD COME DOWN AND HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT A DEMOLITION

10:53:38AM TO WHICH THEY HAD NO NOTICE OF.

10:53:41AM AND THAT THERE WERE ALSO REPORTS THAT THERE WERE DUST AND

10:53:44AM DEBRIS, AND THAT THERE WERE PROBABLY CODE VIOLATIONS GOING

10:53:48AM ON WITH THAT DEMOLITION.

10:53:49AM I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GUDES ALSO TESTIFIED THAT HE WAS OUT

10:53:51AM THERE AND VERIFIED THAT AND HAD SOME ISSUES TRYING TO FIGURE

10:53:54AM OUT HOW TO BRING THAT INTO ENFORCEMENT.

10:53:56AM THERE WAS AN INITIAL REPORT, AND THE FOLLOW-UP FROM THAT

10:53:59AM REPORT WAS A REQUEST TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE NOTIFYING

10:54:03AM CITIZENS OF THE DEMOLITION.

10:54:04AM IN DOING MY RESEARCH ON THIS I STARTED WITH THE FLORIDA

10:54:09AM BUILDING CODE.

10:54:10AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, THE STATE HAS DETERMINED THAT

10:54:13AM THEY WANT A UNIFORM STATE BUILDING CODE THAT COVERS THE AREA




10:54:16AM OF DEMOLITIONS.

10:54:18AM THE STATE HAS ALLOWED FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AMENDMENTS TO IT,

10:54:23AM BUT IT'S A VERY CONSCRIBED PROCESS.

10:54:27AM THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU CAN

10:54:30AM DO AN AMENDMENT REGARDING DEMOLITIONS.

10:54:32AM ONE OF THEM IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT

10:54:35AM THAT CREATES A REVIEW BOARD FOR ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS, AND

10:54:38AM WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE CURRENTLY.

10:54:40AM IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO FOLLOW UP ON WITH THE COUNTY TO

10:54:44AM SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL TO

10:54:48AM GET THIS COMPLIANCE REVIEW ESTABLISHED.

10:54:52AM AFTER THAT, THERE HAS TO BE A FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS OF EACH

10:54:55AM AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GO FORWARD IF IT'S A TECHNICAL

10:54:58AM AMENDMENT.

10:54:58AM TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, I JUST WOULD WANT COUNCIL TO BE

10:55:01AM AWARE THAT ANY AMENDMENT THAT YOU DID PUT FORWARD, IF WE GOT

10:55:04AM THROUGH THOSE STEPS, WOULD ONLY BE IN EFFECT FOR THE TERM OF

10:55:07AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, WHICH IS THREE YEARS, AND THEN

10:55:10AM THE AMENDMENT.

10:55:11AM IT GOES UP TO THE STATE.

10:55:12AM THEY EITHER ADOPT IT STATEWIDE OR THEY REJECT IT, IN WHICH

10:55:16AM CASE EVERY THREE YEARS YOU WOULD HAVE TO READOPT IT.

10:55:19AM RIGHT NOW I'M NOT IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN BRING SOMETHING

10:55:21AM TO YOU BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT CREATING

10:55:26AM FOR THIS AND ANY FUTURE ONES BUT I'M NOT IN THE POSITION AT




10:55:29AM THIS TIME TO PRESENT AN ORDINANCE.

10:55:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR RESEARCH.

10:55:36AM I DON'T QUESTION IT AT ALL.

10:55:38AM YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY THOROUGH.

10:55:40AM MY QUESTION, THOUGH, RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO -- IF

10:55:45AM YOU'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN AND

10:55:48AM PULL A CITY PERMIT.

10:55:49AM >>REBECCA KERT: CORRECT.

10:55:50AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PURSUANT TO STATE

10:55:52AM STATUTE OR PURSUANT TO CITY CODE OR BOTH.

10:55:55AM BUT I GUESS ON A VERY SIMPLIFIED BASIS, IF WE EXTRAPOLATED

10:55:59AM THAT PROCESS, WHICH I KNOW IT ALREADY EXISTS, YOU HAVE TO GO

10:56:03AM GET A PERMIT, THEN WE SAID, AND, BY THE WAY, YOU WOULD NEED

10:56:07AM TO POST THAT ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AS SORT OF A

10:56:12AM FRIENDLY LITTLE AMENDMENT OR ADDITION TO THE CURRENT

10:56:15AM REQUIREMENT, I WONDER IF THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE STATUTE THAT

10:56:20AM YOU REFERENCED OR THE BUILDING CODE.

10:56:23AM OBVIOUSLY, THAT OTHER PROCESS SOUNDS VERY COMPLICATED AND

10:56:27AM CUMBERSOME IN TERMS OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING

10:56:30AM ELSE.

10:56:31AM >>REBECCA KERT: COUNCILMAN, I DID CONSIDER THAT, AND THAT IS

10:56:34AM PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS PROPOSING TO BRING BACK TO YOU WHEN I

10:56:36AM STARTED WITH THIS.

10:56:37AM CERTAINLY, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW HELPFUL IT WOULD BE WHEN

10:56:40AM THERE'S A DEMOLITION GOING ON NEXT TO YOU AND PEOPLE AREN'T




10:56:42AM AWARE OF IT, TO HAVE AT LEAST A PHONE NUMBER OF WHO TO

10:56:45AM CONTACT.

10:56:46AM BUT THAT IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF UNIFORMITY THAT THE STATE

10:56:48AM EXPECTS ACROSS THIS STATE, AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF

10:56:52AM THING THAT WOULD REQUIRE, WOULD TRIGGER THIS.

10:56:55AM THERE ARE CERTAIN AMENDMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH

10:56:58AM THE PROCESS BUT THEY ONLY DEAL WITH ENFORCEMENT.

10:57:01AM UNFORTUNATELY -- I DID LOOK TO SEE WHAT AVENUES WE COULD

10:57:05AM TAKE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS.

10:57:07AM I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

10:57:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW I'LL PROBABLY GET STAFF PUSH-BACK

10:57:12AM ON THIS NEXT IDEA, WHICH IS RELATED, BUT PERHAPS, IF IT'S

10:57:16AM SOMETHING WE'RE REAL SERIOUS ABOUT, PERHAPS WE COULD GO OUT

10:57:21AM AND POST THAT PERMIT AND NOT MAKE IT AN OBLIGATION OF THE

10:57:26AM DEMOLISHMENT, IF WE FELT IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT.

10:57:30AM I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD TRIGGER ANYTHING BECAUSE WE

10:57:38AM WOULDN'T BE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO DO ANYTHING.

10:57:42AM >>REBECCA KERT: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ITSELF WOULD TRIGGER

10:57:45AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ANALYSIS.

10:57:48AM THAT BEING SAID, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE

10:57:52AM BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND AN ANALYSIS DONE BEFORE THAT

10:57:54AM HAPPENED.

10:57:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:57:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MS. KERT, FOR YOUR WORK.

10:58:01AM I ALWAYS SAY, DON'T SAY WHAT WE CAN DO, LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN




10:58:06AM DO.

10:58:06AM SOMETHING WE CAN DO, I WANT TO GO FORWARD TO SEE WHAT WE CAN

10:58:09AM DO.

10:58:10AM BECAUSE IT WAS A CONCERN.

10:58:11AM THAT WASN'T THE ONLY HOUSE I WITNESSED.

10:58:14AM A COUPLE OF HOUSES DONE THAT WAY.

10:58:16AM I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT SOMETHING IS GOING

10:58:20AM ON.

10:58:20AM CHILD CARE CENTERS AROUND THESE FACILITIES.

10:58:25AM KIDS ARE OUT PLAYING, HAVE ASTHMA, ALL KINDS OF ALLERGIES.

10:58:29AM THE STENCH FROM A LOT OF THE HOMES, A LOT OF THEM ARE OLD,

10:58:33AM ABANDONED, LEAD PAINT IN THE HOUSES.

10:58:36AM A LOT OF THEM HAVE A LOT OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA THAT'S ALL

10:58:40AM UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE AND INSIDE THE PLACE.

10:58:42AM FECES AND EVERYTHING.

10:58:43AM I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

10:58:46AM I HATE TO PUT A LOT OF WORK ON YOU.

10:58:48AM SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAME AND ASKED ME, AND I DON'T

10:58:50AM WANT TO BE A PERSON TO SAY, WELL, WE WON'T DO NOTHING.

10:58:54AM TOO MUCH WORK FOR US.

10:58:56AM WE CAN LOOK INTO IT FURTHER, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

10:58:58AM >>REBECCA KERT: COUNCILMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING

10:59:00AM FOR, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE COMING TO YOU ALL AND SAYING THERE

10:59:04AM ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN DO, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE

10:59:07AM OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TO PROVIDE ALL OF YOUR




10:59:10AM OFFICES WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS

10:59:12AM DOES COME, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT

10:59:16AM WHO TO CONTACT IN THE SITUATION.

10:59:19AM I'LL TAKE THAT UPON MYSELF PERSONALLY TO PROVIDE THAT.

10:59:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST PROCEDURALLY, IF WE'RE DONE WITH

10:59:25AM THAT, ITEM 66, MR. SNELLING WAS HERE.

10:59:31AM I THINK MS. McCLEARY WAS HERE ALSO.

10:59:35AM IT HAD BEEN PULLED.

10:59:36AM I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA THAT'S NOW PULLED.

10:59:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: 66 OR 56?

10:59:45AM YOU MEAN THE EDC?

10:59:47AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.

10:59:49AM IT WAS THE CDBG.

10:59:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

10:59:55AM MY APOLOGIES.

10:59:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WAS A FRIENDLY PULL.

11:00:00AM I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

11:00:03AM SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH CDBG MONEY AND I THOUGHT

11:00:06AM IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GIVE A COUPLE-MINUTES UPDATE ON CDBG AND

11:00:10AM HOW THAT WORKS.

11:00:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY QUICKLY, PLEASE.

11:00:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE HERE.

11:00:13AM AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME.

11:00:17AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: GOOD MORNING.

11:00:18AM VANESSA McCLEARY, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT




11:00:19AM MANAGEMENT, CITY OF TAMPA.

11:00:20AM ITEM 66 IS THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES AGREEMENT, AND IT IS PART

11:00:25AM OF THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

11:00:30AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VANESSA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I SAID

11:00:33AM 66, BUT THIS WOULD BE RELATED TO ALL THE -- YOU HAVE LIKE

11:00:37AM EIGHT OF THEM ON THE AGENDA.

11:00:40AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO EVERY YEAR, WE DO AN ANNUAL ACTION

11:00:45AM PLAN FOR HUD.

11:00:48AM THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

11:00:55AM SO THERE IS A CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT COVERS FIVE YEARS.

11:00:55AM EVERY YEAR YOU DO AN ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, AND THAT IS FOR OUR

11:00:59AM ALLOCATION.

11:01:00AM AS PART OF THE ACTION PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY STARTS IN MARCH,

11:01:02AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.

11:01:04AM WE HAVE A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE

11:01:07AM GOING TO START THE PROCESS.

11:01:08AM WE HAVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOPS TO LET NONPROFITS

11:01:12AM KNOW HOW THEY CAN GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR THE FUNDS.

11:01:16AM ONCE WE GET ALL OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS AND WE DO A

11:01:19AM RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR, WE THEN PULL TOGETHER THE

11:01:21AM ACTION PLAN THAT OUTLINES HOW THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT.

11:01:24AM THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

11:01:29AM THAT HAPPENED ON MAY 23rd.

11:01:31AM IT OPENS A 30-DAY COMMENT PERIOD.

11:01:34AM THAT CLOSED ON JUNE 23rd.




11:01:37AM AND THEN AFTER THE COMMENT PERIOD, WE SUBMIT TO HUD.

11:01:42AM THERE IS A LAG BETWEEN WHEN THE ACTION PLAN IS DONE AND WHEN

11:01:46AM THE AGREEMENTS COME OUT.

11:01:47AM SO FOR SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, THERE IS ACTUALLY A

11:01:52AM THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE OUR NOTICE FROM

11:01:56AM HUD UNTIL OCTOBER 23rd.

11:01:59AM THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW THAT THE MONIES ARE AVAILABLE.

11:02:02AM WE GET OUR GRANT AGREEMENTS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD

11:02:06AM WITH THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE AGENCIES FOR THE FUNDS THAT

11:02:09AM WERE ALLOCATED IN THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

11:02:11AM SO THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED, WAS APPROVED BACK IN JULY.

11:02:15AM WENT TO HUD IN AUGUST.

11:02:17AM WE JUST GOT OUR LETTER.

11:02:18AM AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 DIFFERENT ITEMS,

11:02:22AM AGREEMENTS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

11:02:24AM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, AND

11:02:27AM THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE THREE-YEAR AGREEMENTS, SO THEY ARE

11:02:31AM COVERED IN THAT WAY.

11:02:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:02:35AM YES, SIR.

11:02:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. McCLEARY, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT.

11:02:40AM THE REASON I ASKED TO PULL IT, NOT BECAUSE I'M OPPOSED.

11:02:43AM THE CONTRARY.

11:02:44AM I'M TREMENDOUSLY IN FAVOR OF IT.

11:02:45AM I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE MANY FOLKS IN THE




11:02:48AM COMMUNITY OFTEN ASK US, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR LESS

11:02:55AM ADVANTAGED PARTS OF TOWN AND LESS ADVANTAGED PEOPLE,

11:02:57AM DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY?

11:02:59AM I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE THAT SORT OF SLIPS BY

11:03:04AM WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF NOTICE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

11:03:08AM NOT YOUR FAULT.

11:03:09AM IN THIS CASE, IT'S $3 MILLION I THINK IS THE TOTAL CDBG

11:03:16AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CONTRIBUTION.

11:03:20AM I JUST SAW IT ON YOUR LETTER -- ON THAT LETTER --

11:03:24AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SORRY, $3 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED THIS

11:03:26AM YEAR, YES.

11:03:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TOTAL ALLOCATION 3 MILLION.

11:03:30AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: WE HAVE OTHER FUNDS THAT WERE FROM

11:03:32AM PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE ACTION PLAN.

11:03:35AM TOTAL OF THE ACTION PLAN WAS ABOUT 15 MILLION.

11:03:39AM I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME, THE BREAKDOWN AS TO WHAT WAS OUT

11:03:43AM OF CDBG.

11:03:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.

11:03:46AM AS I LOOK THROUGH THESE PLANS, I THINK THEY'RE REALLY --

11:03:49AM THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS GOING ON WITH THE -- YOU KNOW,

11:03:54AM WITH HELPING THE BLIND, HELPING PEOPLE -- REMIND ME OF JUST

11:04:00AM A FEW OF THEM.

11:04:01AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: WE HAVE HOUSING COUNSELING TO HELP

11:04:04AM PEOPLE WITH STABILIZING THEIR HOUSING NEEDS, WHETHER RENTAL

11:04:06AM OR HOME OWNERSHIP.




11:04:08AM WE HAD SPECIAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE, SO WE DO WORK WITH

11:04:12AM LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND.

11:04:13AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS,

11:04:16AM PEOPLE WITH HIV AND AIDS.

11:04:19AM THERE IS A LARGE VARIETY OF FUNDING, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD

11:04:26AM -- PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING OUT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOT

11:04:28AM AWARE, THAT'S WHY WE HAD THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIR ON THE

11:04:32AM 26th WHERE WE BROUGHT ALL OF THOSE AGENCIES INTO ONE

11:04:35AM SPACE.

11:04:36AM WE WILL DO THAT AGAIN IN JANUARY.

11:04:39AM WE'RE JUST TRYING TO NAIL DOWN A LOCATION.

11:04:42AM SO THE END OF JANUARY, BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY WE'LL DO

11:04:44AM ANOTHER ONE.

11:04:45AM WE'RE GOING TO DO THEM QUARTERLY JUST SO THAT WE CAN BRING

11:04:48AM THESE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE

11:04:52AM PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE FUNDING.

11:04:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S EXACTLY THE INFORMATION I WANTED

11:04:54AM TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

11:04:56AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:04:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES, REALLY QUICK, BECAUSE WE

11:04:59AM HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

11:04:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I KNOW.

11:05:01AM TWO THINGS, I HAD ASKED A WHILE AGO ABOUT THE COMMUNITY

11:05:06AM BLOCK GRANTS AND WHO'S DOING THIS MONEY, DISTRIBUTING IT TO.

11:05:12AM GLAD TO HAVE SOME IDEA NOW.




11:05:13AM BUT I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, REHAB.

11:05:20AM A LOT MORE MONEY NEEDS TO BE PUT IN REHAB IN THESE

11:05:23AM COMMUNITIES.

11:05:24AM THAT I THINK WOULD BE A KEY TO BUILDING AND IN KEEPING THE

11:05:27AM ASSETS IN THE COMMUNITY AND KEEPING THE PEOPLE IN THE

11:05:30AM COMMUNITY.

11:05:30AM AS I TRAVEL THE COUNTRY, I SEE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THESE NEW

11:05:34AM IDEAS OF HAVING HANDYMAN TRAILERS TO WHERE THE OUTSIDE

11:05:37AM CONTRACTOR CAN HAVE PEOPLE GO OUT IN COMMUNES AND FIX ROOFS,

11:05:41AM DO PAINTING.

11:05:42AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE CERTAIN GUIDELINES OR OUR OWN

11:05:46AM GUIDELINES VERSUS FEDERAL GUIDELINES, BUT LOOKING AT PUTTING

11:05:48AM MORE MONEY INTO REHABBING THESE BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES.

11:05:53AM PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MONEY.

11:05:56AM YOU HAVE AN OLDER PERSON WHO CAN'T GET A LOAN OR CAN'T FIX

11:05:59AM THE PLACE UP BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A FIXED INCOME.

11:06:03AM THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE MONEY GO TO HEAVILY

11:06:06AM TO LOOK AT REHAB AND ALSO, WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE, A GREAT

11:06:11AM JOB, YOUR PEOPLE DID FOR US AND THE COUNCIL, BUT I'D ALSO

11:06:15AM LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT OF THE PROS AND CONS SO COUNCIL CAN

11:06:20AM KNOW IN THE FUTURE, WHEN OTHER COUNCILMEN WANT TO PUT ON

11:06:23AM HOUSING SEMINARS.

11:06:26AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: COUNCILMAN, JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE, WE

11:06:27AM DO PUT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY INTO OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB.

11:06:34AM TWO MILLION DOLLARS IS ACTUALLY GOING IN THIS YEAR.




11:06:35AM WE DID TWO MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.

11:06:36AM WE DIDN'T USE ALL OF THE FUNDING.

11:06:38AM I'M HAPPY TO TAKE MORE, BUT I NEED A RESOURCE AS TO WHERE TO

11:06:44AM GET IT FROM AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND UTILIZE

11:06:47AM THE PROGRAM THAT IS AVAILABLE.

11:06:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG -- I KNOW YOU HAVE A

11:06:53AM LIST.

11:06:54AM WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG FOR FOLKS APPROVED TO GET REHAB DONE?

11:06:58AM WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THAT.

11:06:59AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO I WILL ACCEPT THAT FROM OUR OFFICE,

11:07:04AM WE WERE UNDERSTAFFED FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

11:07:08AM WE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN STAFFED UP, THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL

11:07:10AM AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT.

11:07:12AM AND ALL OF THOSE REHABS ARE STARTING TO MOVE.

11:07:15AM WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THEM ALL COMPLETED -- THE MAJORITY

11:07:20AM COMPLETED BY DECEMBER AND ALL OF THEM COMPLETED BY MARCH

11:07:22AM THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW.

11:07:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

11:07:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

11:07:27AM NOW, BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR LAST ITEM, 93, 94, 95, DOES

11:07:32AM ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE?

11:07:34AM BECAUSE THOSE ARE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

11:07:36AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE STAFF HERE

11:07:38AM WAITING, 93, 94, 95.

11:07:41AM LET ME KNOW, PLEASE.




11:07:44AM I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:07:46AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

11:07:47AM THAT'S THE LAST ONE BEFORE WE GO TO 105.

11:07:53AM ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR 93, 94,

11:07:57AM OR 95?

11:07:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:08:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHICH ONE, SIR?

11:08:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 94.

11:08:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S HURRY UP AND DO 94.

11:08:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND 95.

11:08:10AM THEY ARE RELATED.

11:08:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT WITHIN SEVEN

11:08:20AM MINUTES.

11:08:22AM >> MARK WILFALK, DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE, ENVIRONMENTAL

11:08:25AM PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.

11:08:26AM BEFORE YOU TODAY, ONE OF ITEM FOR MCKAY BAY TRANSFER

11:08:30AM STATION.

11:08:31AM CURRENT TRANSFER STATION WE HAVE AT MCKAY BAY IS UNDERSIZED.

11:08:36AM WHEN I INITIALLY STARTED DOING RESEARCH ON THIS PROJECT,

11:08:39AM REALIZED THAT IT WAS DEDICATED IN I BELIEVE 1983.

11:08:43AM IT WAS MAYOR MARTINEZ THEN AND OUR POPULATION WAS PROBABLY

11:08:46AM AROUND 250,000.

11:08:49AM SINCE THEN, OBVIOUSLY, TAMPA HAS EXPANDED EXPONENTIALLY.

11:08:53AM WE'RE APPROACHING 500,000.

11:08:55AM NOW WE HAVE A TRANSFER STATION THAT IS UNDER SIZE TO SERVE




11:09:00AM OUR POPULATION.

11:09:00AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WELL WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, CONTRACT

11:09:05AM ADMIN, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, TO COME UP WITH THE CORRECT

11:09:08AM DESIGN AND A FACILITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OUR

11:09:13AM NEEDS.

11:09:13AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

11:09:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:09:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. WILFALK.

11:09:19AM THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR FOLKS DO WITH

11:09:24AM SOLID WASTE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

11:09:26AM AS SOMEBODY WHO USES THE TRANSFER STATION AND THE CITY DUMP

11:09:33AM OUT THERE WITH MY TRUCK PERIODICALLY, I APPRECIATE THE FACT

11:09:38AM WE'RE DOING A NEW ONE AND WE NEED IT BADLY.

11:09:42AM SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE THIS -- THESE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

11:09:47AM WHAT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THIS WEEK THAT I USUALLY DO

11:09:52AM IS CALL GREG HART AND ASK HIM ABOUT MINORITY VENDORS'

11:09:59AM OPPORTUNITIES ON THIS -- THIS IS A BIG ONE.

11:10:01AM IT'S $35 MILLION FOR ITEM 94.

11:10:05AM THE OTHER ONE I THINK WAS $9 MILLION.

11:10:07AM BUT SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO US DOING A GMP, GUARANTEED

11:10:13AM MAXIMUM PRICE, AGREEMENT WITH -- I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN

11:10:16AM PRONOUNCE THAT -- KOKOLAKIS CONTRACTING, DO WE HAVE A GOAL

11:10:23AM SET FOR THEM ALREADY PREESTABLISHED IN TERMS OF MINORITY

11:10:26AM VENDORS?

11:10:27AM >>MARK WILFALK: YES, THAT GOAL HAS BEEN SET.




11:10:30AM IT WAS PREESTABLISHED AND IT HAS BEEN MET.

11:10:33AM THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH IS

11:10:35AM ALSO DOING A SIMILAR PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF CLEARWATER.

11:10:37AM THEY SHOULD BE NEARING COMPLETION.

11:10:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE GOAL?

11:10:41AM I COULDN'T FIND IT ON QUICK REVIEW IN THE CONTRACT.

11:10:46AM DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS?

11:10:48AM >> I'D HAVE TO FOLLOW BACK UP WITH YOU ON THAT.

11:10:51AM I REMEMBER WE SET THE GOALS.

11:10:52AM I JUST DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS IN MY MIND AT THE TIME.

11:10:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT I DID TALK TO

11:10:59AM MR. HART ABOUT IN TODAY'S AGENDA, HE TALKED ABOUT 14%.

11:11:03AM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF IT'S AROUND THAT NUMBER?

11:11:06AM >> I'D RATHER GO BACK AND CONFIRM THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW,

11:11:10AM CONFIRM THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR YOU BEFORE I SAY THAT SOUNDS

11:11:16AM FAMILIAR.

11:11:16AM I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WAS A MAJOR CROSS ROADS THAT WE HAD TO

11:11:19AM GET OVER PRIOR TO GETTING TO THIS POINT.

11:11:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SINCE THIS IS A BIG-TICKET ITEM,

11:11:23AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST ASK THAT WE NOT VOTE ON THAT YET.

11:11:27AM MR. WILFALK I'M SURE CAN CALL GREG HART OR TEXT AND GET THAT

11:11:31AM INFORMATION.

11:11:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE VOTE AT THE END, SO THERE WILL BE TIME.

11:11:35AM THANK YOU, SIR.

11:11:36AM OUR LAST ITEM, 105.




11:11:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, THERE'S GREG.

11:11:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:11:48AM GREGORY HART.

11:11:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION BEFORE YOU

11:11:51AM START ON THIS ONE?

11:11:52AM >> NO, SIR, NOT AT THIS MOMENT.

11:11:54AM I'D LIKE TO PULL THE FILE AND RECORDS.

11:11:56AM GREGORY HART, CITY OF TAMPA, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY

11:11:59AM MANAGER.

11:12:00AM THIS MORNING, I'M HERE TO BRING YOU GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF

11:12:08AM MS. BJ WAYMER, THE NFL EVENT EXECUTIVE, AND MS. LAKENDRIA

11:12:15AM ROBERTSON, OUR LOCAL DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS CONNECT AND

11:12:17AM COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR OUR NFL HOST COMMITTEE.

11:12:22AM IN ADDITION, THERE WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE HELD MONDAY, THE

11:12:26AM 4th, AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM TO KICK OFF THE SUPER

11:12:29AM BOWL LV SUPPLIER DIVERSITY PROGRAM.

11:12:31AM IT'S TITLED "BUSINESS CONNECT."

11:12:35AM FORMERLY KNOWN AS "EMERGING BUSINESS PROGRAM."

11:12:39AM THE PREVIOUS SUPER BOWL HELD HERE IN TAMPA.

11:12:43AM ABOUT BUSINESS CONNECT, LET ME JUST BRIEFLY AND QUICKLY

11:12:50AM SHARE WITH YOU --

11:12:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE COULDN'T GET A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE

11:12:56AM COMMITTEE HERE TODAY?

11:12:58AM >> YES, WE DID.

11:12:58AM BOTH ARE UNAVAILABLE.




11:13:00AM I DID HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFING WITH BOTH OF THEM.

11:13:03AM MS. WAYMER HAD TO RETURN.

11:13:05AM I THINK IT WAS TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY MORNING TO THE NFL

11:13:08AM EXECUTIVE OFFICES.

11:13:09AM OUR LOCAL DIRECTOR, LAKENDRIA I BELIEVE IS IN ST. PETE DOING

11:13:15AM A PRESENTATION.

11:13:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'D LIKE IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY COME

11:13:18AM BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO THE COUNCIL CAN KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE

11:13:20AM ARE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

11:13:22AM THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT.

11:13:24AM WE'LL GO WITH THE PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT I DO WANT THEM TO

11:13:27AM COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL SO THIS COUNCIL CAN KNOW WHO THESE

11:13:30AM PEOPLE ARE, WHAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING, AND GET FAMILIAR

11:13:32AM WITH THE PROGRAM OF THE BOWL.

11:13:35AM >> SURE THING.

11:13:36AM I'LL COMMUNICATE THAT AS WELL.

11:13:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: ABOUT HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION?

11:13:40AM >> 60 SECONDS, A MINUTE.

11:13:42AM I'LL CUT IT REALLY BRIEF.

11:13:44AM AGAIN, ABOUT BUSINESS CONNECT, JUST QUICKLY, IT'S TO CONNECT

11:13:48AM LOCAL DIVERSE BUSINESSES TO CONTRACT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SUPER

11:13:53AM BOWL LV.

11:13:54AM ALL CONTRACTS RELATED TO BUSINESS CONNECT ARE SPECIAL EVENT

11:13:57AM PRODUCTION CONTRACTS TO PREPARE LOCAL DIVERSE BUSINESSES FOR

11:14:01AM CONTRACTS BY HAVING THEM PARTICIPATE IN A SERIES OF BUSINESS




11:14:04AM DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOPS.

11:14:05AM THE WORKSHOPS WILL RANGE FROM PREPARING A HIGH-QUALITY,

11:14:08AM CAPABILITY STATEMENT, UNDERSTANDING THE RFP PROCESS, AND

11:14:12AM LEVERAGING THE BUSINESS CONNECT EXPERIENCE TO GROW IN OUR

11:14:16AM LOCAL MARKET.

11:14:17AM THIS EFFORT IS GOING TO PROVIDE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES FOR

11:14:21AM OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO CONNECT WITH EACH MEMBER OF THE NFL

11:14:29AM CONTRACTING COMPONENT.

11:14:30AM WITH THAT, BUSINESS CONNECT WILL SELECT A MAXIMUM OF 300

11:14:35AM BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BUSINESS CONNECT PROGRAM.

11:14:38AM THE BUSINESS CONNECT DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTRACTS.

11:14:43AM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER BUSINESSES ARE AWARDED A CONTRACT OR

11:14:46AM NOT, THEY WILL BE GUARANTEED FULL ACCESS TO THE BUSINESS

11:14:49AM CONNECT BENEFITS, INCLUDING BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING

11:14:51AM AND NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES.

11:14:53AM THAT BEING SAID, ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 12th, WE'RE

11:14:59AM GOING TO BE KICKING OFF, ALONG WITH OUR NFL PARTNERS AT THE

11:15:02AM JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER, AN EVENT, WORKSHOP AND

11:15:07AM INTRODUCTION.

11:15:08AM THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT NOW ON THE OVERHEAD.

11:15:12AM WITH THAT SAID, I WILL CONCLUDE BY LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE

11:15:17AM KICKOFF IS UNDERWAY.

11:15:21AM IT'S A YEAR IN ADVANCE.

11:15:24AM SUPER BOWL LV WILL BE HELD IN 2021.

11:15:27AM THE NFL DID LEARN FROM PREVIOUS EFFORTS THAT THE EARLIER THE




11:15:31AM BETTER.

11:15:31AM THANK YOU.

11:15:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:15:33AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:15:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:15:37AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:15:38AM NOW WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM IS THE EDC CONTRACT 56.

11:15:48AM I'LL TAKE THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:15:50AM I THINK THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

11:15:51AM NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:15:54AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA

11:15:56AM OR OTHERWISE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

11:16:01AM THREE MINUTES A PERSON.

11:16:01AM AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY FOR THE DELAY.

11:16:02AM WE HAD A VERY ROBUST AGENDA, AND WE TRIED TO MOVE IT ALONG

11:16:05AM AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE.

11:16:08AM PLEASE ACCEPT OUR AND MY, AS THE CHAIR, SINCERE APOLOGIES

11:16:11AM FOR THE TIME WAITING.

11:16:13AM GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:16:14AM >> THANK GOD FOR THIS HERE MOMENT BECAUSE YOU ALL SEEM LIKE

11:16:18AM YOU WANT TO BLOCK US OUT.

11:16:19AM BUT WE THANK GOD WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND

11:16:22AM SPEAK TO YOU.

11:16:24AM I NOTICE, DIDN'T SEE NO WOMAN UP THERE.

11:16:27AM HAVE A TRUE REPRESENTATIVE OF BLACK PEOPLE.




11:16:36AM IN GOD WE TRUST AND LOVE ALL.

11:16:39AM PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN COOPERATION WITH

11:16:42AM PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS SENIOR AND FAMILY.

11:16:44AM 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.

11:16:46AM HE THAT BELIEVE ON THE SON HAS EVERLASTING LIFE AND HE THAT

11:16:51AM BELIEVEETH NOT IN THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIGHT BUT THE WRATH

11:16:56AM OF GOD SHALL ABIDE ON HIM.

11:16:58AM GOD IS ANGRY WITH THE WICKED.

11:17:00AM THAT'S BOOK OF ROMANS 8:28 AND 35 TO 39.

11:17:05AM WE HAVE A LOT OF HATRED GOING ON IN THE UNITED STATES OF

11:17:15AM AMERICA.

11:17:16AM SEEMS LIKE YOU HATE BLACK FOLKS FOR WHAT THEY STAND FOR.

11:17:22AM I LEFT A PHONE NUMBER FOR YOU TO CALL ME BUT YOU NEVER

11:17:25AM RETURNED MY CALL.

11:17:26AM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU AND YOUR COUNCIL, COME DOWN TO MY

11:17:32AM CHURCH AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL SOME EVIDENCE OF HOW THEY

11:17:35AM MISTREATING OUR CHURCH.

11:17:38AM CAN YOU ALL DO THAT FOR ME?

11:17:39AM OKAY.

11:17:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL CHECK WITH MY AIDE ABOUT YOUR CALL.

11:17:47AM I REMEMBER I SET AN APPOINTMENT AND I WENT DOWN TO YOUR

11:17:50AM PLACE AND WE MISSED THAT CONNECTION.

11:17:53AM I'LL CALL AND REACH OUT TO YOU AGAIN.

11:17:56AM >> YEAH, PLEASE.

11:17:58AM ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE A DEDICATION TO THIS CITY COUNCIL HERE.




11:18:06AM PUT IT HERE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

11:18:08AM THE WAY YOU SEEM TO RUN THE ORGANIZATION, SO YOU NEED TO

11:18:11AM CHANGE THE NAME TO THE KU KLUX KLAN BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY

11:18:16AM YOU SEEM TO RUN IT.

11:18:17AM YOU DON'T SEEM TO RESPECT PEOPLE OF COLOR.

11:18:20AM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE WERE CREATED BY GOD ALMIGHTY, ALL

11:18:23AM OF US, NOBODY IS NO BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE, BECAUSE OF THE

11:18:27AM COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, YOU LOOK AT YOURSELF AND THINK YOU'RE

11:18:31AM SUPERIOR, NO, YOU'RE NOT SUPERIOR.

11:18:33AM YOU'RE ONLY SUPERIOR WHEN YOU'VE GOT JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR

11:18:37AM LIFE.

11:18:37AM I THANK GOD FOR JESUS CHRIST.

11:18:38AM THE OTHER THING, PRACTICALLY TRYING TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC

11:18:45AM COMMENT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT ALL THE WHITE FOLKS

11:18:49AM GOT TO SAY AND DON'T WANT TO HEAR NOTHING THE BLACKS FOLKS

11:18:52AM HAVE TO SAY.

11:18:53AM WE'LL GET BUSY.

11:18:55AM WE'LL TALK TO GOD IF WE HAVE TO FAST AND PRAY AND WE'LL MAKE

11:18:58AM SURE GOD TREAT EVERYBODY EQUAL.

11:18:59AM YOU ALL NOT GOING TO MISTREAT GOD'S CHILDREN.

11:19:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:19:06AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:19:09AM >> I'M LEAVING THIS AS A DONATION TO YOU ALL.

11:19:12AM YOU ALL CAN PUT IT IN A PLAQUE AND PUT IT ON THE WALL.

11:19:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.




11:19:16AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:19:26AM >> HI.

11:19:27AM I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE BENCHES IN GASLIGHT PARK AND

11:19:31AM THE CAFE.

11:19:32AM AUSTIN WILLIS.

11:19:34AM FIRST OF ALL, JUST THE WHOLE PROPOSAL OF PUTTING A CAFE IN

11:19:38AM THE PARK BECAUSE, LIKE, WE NEED TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE TO IT

11:19:42AM OR TO THAT AREA OR WE NEED TO PUT -- NEED TO DEVELOP THE

11:19:47AM AREA, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

11:19:48AM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR THE

11:19:52AM BUSINESS GOVERNMENT COOPERATION, WHATEVER, WHAT THEY MEAN BY

11:19:57AM DEVELOPMENT AND LIKE IMPROVING THE AREA MEANS EXTRACTING

11:19:59AM MORE MONEY OUT OF IT.

11:20:01AM BEFORE WE TOOK THE BENCHES OUT, LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE ALREADY

11:20:03AM ENJOYING THE PARK, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD CONGREGATE AND

11:20:06AM HANG OUT IN THE PARK.

11:20:07AM JUST MAYBE NOT LIKE THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE AS MAYOR CASTOR

11:20:12AM WOULD LIKE.

11:20:13AM MAYBE JUST NOT THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE.

11:20:15AM BUT PEOPLE WERE ALREADY ENJOYING THE PARK.

11:20:18AM WE DON'T NEED TO SELL STUFF AND, LIKE, CHARGE FOR ENTRY AT

11:20:21AM THE PARK FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY IT.

11:20:23AM PEOPLE WILL ALREADY ENJOY IT IF YOU JUST PUT THE BENCHES

11:20:29AM BACK.

11:20:30AM I WANTED TO STATE THE OBVIOUS THAT TAKING THE BENCHES OUT




11:20:33AM AND FOR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS NOW, I THINK, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T

11:20:37AM BE REPAIRED, I SAT ON THE BENCHES FIVE DAYS BEFORE THEY WERE

11:20:41AM TAKEN OUT.

11:20:42AM THEY WERE FINE.

11:20:42AM THE BENCHES WERE TOTALLY FINE.

11:20:45AM I SAT IN THE BENCHES EVERY WEEK, ONCE A WEEK OR TWICE A

11:20:49AM WEEK.

11:20:49AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BENCHES.

11:20:50AM IT IS VERY SUSPICIOUS THAT THEY WERE REMOVED WHEN THE MAJOR

11:20:53AM SPORTING EVENT WAS IN TOWN.

11:20:55AM I HEARD LOTS OF HOUSELESS PEOPLE TELL ME THAT THEY HAVE BEEN

11:21:00AM TOLD BY POLICE NOT TO BE IN GASLIGHT PARK THAT WEEKEND, THE

11:21:04AM SAME WEEKEND THE BENCHES WERE REMOVED.

11:21:05AM IT'S PLAIN AS DAY THAT IT'S TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM

11:21:09AM CONGREGATING IN THE PARK, UNDESIRABLE PEOPLE.

11:21:13AM WHY DOES IT TAKE SIX MONTHS TO FIX A BENCH?

11:21:15AM IT'S NOT AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE OR SPACESHIP OR

11:21:20AM ANYTHING.

11:21:20AM IT IS A PIECE OF METAL THAT YOU PUT YOUR ASS ON.

11:21:24AM PARKS AND REC HAVE BENCHES.

11:21:25AM IF THEY DON'T HAVE EXTRA BENCHES, WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

11:21:29AM IT IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

11:21:30AM THEY HAVE BENCHES.

11:21:31AM IT'S RIDICULOUS.

11:21:32AM IT IS A LIE THAT THEY CAN'T PUT THE BENCHES BACK.




11:21:35AM IT IS A STRAIGHT-UP LIE.

11:21:37AM THAT'S ALL.

11:21:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:21:40AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:21:40AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:21:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:21:43AM MY NAME IS MIKE PETIT.

11:21:45AM I'M ALSO HERE ON THAT ISSUE.

11:21:47AM IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE AT LEAST FOUR, IF NOT FIVE OF YOU

11:21:51AM ALREADY RECOGNIZE WHAT A BAD IDEA THIS CONCESSION IS.

11:21:54AM I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT EXCEPT TO

11:21:57AM COMMENT, THAT IN THE PAPER IT WAS REPORTED -- AND TAKE IT

11:21:59AM FOR WHAT IT IS -- THAT THE PROPOSAL MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE A

11:22:03AM PAYMENT TO THE CITY FOR THE SPACE.

11:22:06AM THAT'S ASTOUNDING.

11:22:08AM THAT'S ASTOUNDING.

11:22:09AM BUT THE REALITY IS, WE DON'T NEED MORE PLACES TO EAT

11:22:13AM DOWNTOWN.

11:22:13AM THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES TO EAT DOWNTOWN.

11:22:15AM I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD DO TO THE PARK TO

11:22:18AM MAKE IT MORE AMENABLE BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN PARK DESIGN.

11:22:22AM YOU HAVE STAFF FOR THAT.

11:22:23AM I'LL TAKE A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM

11:22:27AM YOU HAVE HERE.

11:22:28AM WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT?




11:22:29AM IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

11:22:32AM I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT JUST A CITY PROBLEM.

11:22:34AM IT'S ALSO A COUNTY PROBLEM AND A STATE PROBLEM.

11:22:36AM WE LIVE IN A STATE THAT HAS A SADOWSKI FUND, WHICH HAS BEEN

11:22:40AM RATED TO THE TUNE OF $2 BILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

11:22:43AM BY OUR STATE LEGISLATURE WHO SOMEBODY UP THERE TODAY

11:22:48AM CHARACTERIZED MORE LIKE A MISSISSIPPI STATE LEGISLATURE.

11:22:52AM TOTALLY AGREE.

11:22:52AM IT I MA BE WORSE THAN THAT.

11:22:54AM BUT THIS CITY HAS, ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH AND I DON'T

11:23:01AM PRETEND TO BE A GOVERNMENT FINANCE EXPERT, APPROXIMATELY 13

11:23:04AM SOURCES OF FINANCING POTENTIAL.

11:23:06AM INCLUDING BONDING.

11:23:08AM THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO WORK ON DEVELOPING, NOT JUST

11:23:11AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T

11:23:16AM CUT IT SOMETIMES IN THE SOCIETY, FOR WHATEVER REASON,

11:23:20AM TERRIBLE LUCK, TERRIBLE HEALTH.

11:23:22AM ADDICTION, MENTAL CHALLENGES.

11:23:24AM THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELPED ALSO.

11:23:27AM YOU HAVE 22 CITY ATTORNEYS HERE BY MY COUNT, MAYBE ONE OR

11:23:34AM TWO OFF.

11:23:35AM PUT ONE OF THEM ON THIS.

11:23:37AM PUT ONE OF THEM ON THIS.

11:23:38AM LET THEM DO SOME WORK.

11:23:43AM TELL YOU WHAT FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE TO FIX THE




11:23:46AM PROBLEM.

11:23:46AM HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

11:23:49AM TALK WITH THEM ABOUT HOW TO DO IT COUNTYWIDE.

11:23:52AM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE LEVEL, NOT

11:23:54AM IN MY LIFETIME FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.

11:23:58AM IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING FIXED.

11:23:59AM I HEARD PEOPLE UP HERE EARLIER SPEAKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT

11:24:04AM SOUNDED INTERESTING, SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH PROJECT.

11:24:07AM TALK ABOUT WANT TO FIGHT THE CAUSES OF CRIME.

11:24:10AM PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO BE.

11:24:11AM WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO BE AND THEY ARE HOMELESS,

11:24:14AM THAT CAN BE A CAUSE OF CRIME.

11:24:16AM PETTY CRIME MOST OF THE TIME, STILL A CAUSE OF CRIME.

11:24:19AM WE NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

11:24:20AM IT'S MORE THAN BENCHES.

11:24:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:24:24AM NEXT PLEASE.

11:24:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, GERALDINE ROGERS TUNES.

11:24:34AM THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT

11:24:37AM PLACING ROUNDABOUTS ON 34th STREET IN EAST TAMPA.

11:24:40AM AFTER SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH, I DISCOVERED THAT ROUNDABOUTS

11:24:44AM HAVE BECOME A NATIONAL TREND IN LIEU OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND

11:24:50AM THEY HAVE FAVORABLE REVIEWS FOR REDUCING SERIOUS TRAFFIC

11:24:53AM ACCIDENTS.

11:24:54AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE IDENTIFIES 25 ROUNDABOUTS IN




11:24:58AM TAMPA.

11:24:59AM HOWEVER, THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE A RELATIVELY NEWER DESIGN IN

11:25:05AM TAMPA, AND A MAJOR CHANGE FROM TRADITIONAL DRIVING METHODS.

11:25:10AM PUBLIC EDUCATION SHOULD ACCOMPANY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF

11:25:13AM ROUNDABOUTS.

11:25:14AM I COMMEND MAYOR CASTOR FOR BEING RECEPTIVE TO THE CONCERNS

11:25:20AM OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

11:25:22AM MAYOR CASTOR RESPONDED TO A CITIZEN'S QUESTION REGARDING THE

11:25:26AM PLANNED ROUNDABOUTS FOR 34th STREET WHILE APPEARING ON

11:25:30AM WTMP RADIO STATION.

11:25:31AM ABOUT TWO WEEKS AFTER HER APPEARANCE ON THE SHOW, A PUBLIC

11:25:35AM DEMONSTRATION WAS CONDUCTED AT 40th STREET AND YUKON

11:25:41AM AVENUE TO GIVE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MANEUVER THROUGH

11:25:44AM ROUNDABOUTS AND THE APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC SIGNS WERE

11:25:50AM EVENTUALLY INSTALLED.

11:25:52AM STILL, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IN EAST

11:25:55AM TAMPA WHEN IT COMES TO ADDING NEWLY PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS ON

11:26:00AM 34th STREET.

11:26:02AM IN ALL OF MY RESEARCH, I DIDN'T FIND ANY ROUNDABOUTS LOCATED

11:26:06AM IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR TO ELEMENTARY

11:26:12AM SCHOOLS.

11:26:12AM DID THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT CONSULTANT

11:26:15AM WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CITY'S PARKS

11:26:18AM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT?

11:26:19AM OR ARE WE -- OR WERE ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD IN EAST TAMPA




11:26:28AM TO OBTAIN THE COMMUNITY'S PERSPECTIVE PERTAINING TO

11:26:32AM ROUNDABOUTS BEING ON 34th STREET.

11:26:35AM TWO OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO 34th STREET ARE IN

11:26:38AM RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND PARKS.

11:26:42AM POTTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HEAD START PROGRAM, EAST TAMPA

11:26:47AM ACADEMY CHARTER SCHOOL, FAIR OAKS PARK AND NFL YET CENTER

11:26:54AM ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT SITE.

11:26:56AM THE NFL YET CENTER WILL BE DIRECTLY NEXT TO ONE, MEANING

11:27:00AM WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS IS

11:27:04AM ALSO ALARMING THAT THE ROUNDABOUTS PROPOSED FOR 34th

11:27:07AM STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO CHRIST UNITED

11:27:11AM METHODIST CHURCH.

11:27:13AM I'LL HAVE TO SKIP SOME OF THAT.

11:27:15AM WE MUST ASK OURSELVES, ARE WE ENDANGERING THE HEALTH AND

11:27:19AM SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS AND HANDICAP CHILDREN,

11:27:22AM INDIVIDUALS WITH THE NEWLY PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT LOCATIONS,

11:27:24AM EVEN CHILDREN UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

11:27:28AM RED MEANS STOP AND GREEN MEANS GO.

11:27:31AM MAY I PLEASE COMPLETE WHAT I SAID?

11:27:34AM I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO.

11:27:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

11:27:37AM >> EVEN CHILDREN UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

11:27:39AM RED MEANS STOP AND GREEN MEANS GO.

11:27:43AM NEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS AND STOPLIGHTS BE INSTALLED?

11:27:47AM IF SO, IS IT FEASIBLE TO HAVE ROUNDABOUTS WHERE TRAFFIC




11:27:50AM LIGHTS WILL STILL BE REQUIRED?

11:27:52AM PLEASE RECONSIDER THE INSTALLATION OF ROUNDABOUTS ON 34th

11:27:56AM STREET FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED REASONS.

11:27:58AM I PRAY SOUND DECISIONS WILL BE MADE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF

11:28:02AM ALL PARTIES COMMUTING ON 34th STREET.

11:28:05AM THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

11:28:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS AND WORDS, MA'AM.

11:28:10AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:28:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:28:16AM MY NAME IS CAROL RANSOM.

11:28:18AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK ABOUT SEVERAL ISSUES I SEE

11:28:22AM LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.

11:28:25AM ONE OF THEM HAD A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.

11:28:27AM SOMEWHERE IN THIS AGENDA WHERE YOU STATED THAT THERE WOULD

11:28:29AM BE A QUITCLAIM DEED FOR PROPERTIES.

11:28:32AM ONE WAS VALUED AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

11:28:34AM THE OTHER WAS STATED FOR $245.

11:28:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO GET MY NAME ON THE LIST SO THE

11:28:42AM CITY OF TAMPA CAN QUITCLAIM SOME PROPERTY, REAL PROPERTIES,

11:28:46AM WHAT IS STATED HERE.

11:28:47AM I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT, BUT I DID READ IT.

11:28:52AM HOW I GET MY NAME ON THE LIST FOR THE PROPERTIES?

11:28:55AM THE NEXT ISSUE I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS ALSO AN ITEM THAT WAS

11:28:58AM LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.

11:28:59AM AND THAT WAS FROM THE LOVELY REPORT WE GOT FROM MR. GREGORY




11:29:03AM HART.

11:29:03AM AND THIS WAS REGARDING THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SUPER BOWL LV

11:29:08AM COMING HERE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

11:29:09AM YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DID HAVE ANOTHER SUPER BOWL.

11:29:13AM I DO KNOW OF NUMEROUS CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT

11:29:17AM PARTICIPATED IN THE SHENANIGANS THAT WENT ON THAT YEAR.

11:29:21AM THEY PARADED US UP AND DOWN.

11:29:23AM WE SIGNED ALL TYPES OF ATTENDANCE SHEETS.

11:29:25AM WE WENT TO WORKSHOP AFTER WORKSHOP AND DID NOT GET ANYTHING.

11:29:29AM THE KEY TO IT ALL IS CALLED UNBUNDLING.

11:29:34AM IF THEY DON'T SET ASIDE WORK IN SMALLER BUNDLES SO THAT SOME

11:29:39AM OF THE SMALLER COMPANIES THAT EXIST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

11:29:44AM THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROJECTS.

11:29:47AM ONE OF THE CRITERIA OR STIPULATIONS WAS THAT YOU HAD TO WORK

11:29:53AM -- YOU HAD TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT STADIUM WORK.

11:29:57AM YOU HAD TO PARTICIPATE AND WORK AT A STADIUM PRIOR TO THE

11:30:00AM SUPER BOWL.

11:30:01AM WELL, IF YOU DIDN'T GET WORK THE LAST SUPER BOWL, WHEN DID

11:30:04AM YOU GET WORK AT THE STADIUM?

11:30:07AM SO THAT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO AUTOMATICALLY NOT BE

11:30:10AM SUCCESSFUL.

11:30:11AM THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN YOU HAD THE GENTLEMAN HERE, THE

11:30:15AM NEW WORK THAT'S BEING DONE OVER AT WASTE MANAGEMENT.

11:30:20AM IF YOU UNBUNDLE THE PROJECT, YOU CAN GET MORE PARTICIPATION.

11:30:24AM WHAT HAPPENS IS, AND THIS IS ACROSS EVERY GOVERNMENT.




11:30:27AM WE HAVE CRACKS IN OUR SYSTEMS.

11:30:31AM WHETHER IT'S THE HOMELESS PROBLEM, WHETHER IT'S THE BENCHES

11:30:33AM DOWNTOWN AND COMPANIES AND PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS ARE FALLING

11:30:38AM THROUGH THE CRACKS.

11:30:39AM WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CRACK IS AND HOW TO FIX IT.

11:30:42AM YOU'VE GOT THESE PROGRAMS AND I HEARD YOU SAY MR. GUDES

11:30:45AM ABOUT REHABBING MORE HOMES.

11:30:47AM PROBLEM IN MY COMMUNITY, WE DON'T OWN THE HOME BECAUSE MOM

11:30:50AM AND THEM DIDN'T HAVE A WILL.

11:30:52AM THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WILL, SO THE HOUSE DOESN'T BELONG TO

11:30:55AM ANYBODY, BUT SOMEBODY, USUALLY THE MATRIARCH, LIVES IN THAT

11:30:59AM HOUSE, AND BECAUSE HER NAME IS NOT ON ANYTHING, SHE COULDN'T

11:31:02AM QUALIFY IF YOU BROUGHT HER MONEY DOWN AND POURED IT ON HER.

11:31:07AM SIMPLE FIX.

11:31:08AM 22 CITY ATTORNEYS, IS THAT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID?

11:31:11AM FIGURE IT OUT HOW TO HELP US FIX OUR PROBLEMS.

11:31:14AM WE ARE FALLING BETWEEN THE CRACKS AND IT'S GOING TO GET

11:31:17AM UGLY.

11:31:17AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:31:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:31:19AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:31:20AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:31:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:31:25AM MY NAME IS ED KRONA.

11:31:27AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 102, THE BENCHES DOWN IN GASLIGHT




11:31:31AM PARK.

11:31:32AM I ATTENDED CHURCH, HYDE PARK UNITED METHODIST CHURCH THAT

11:31:40AM THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR PROVIDES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN

11:31:42AM 8,000 AND 10,000 BREAKFAST MEALS TO UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS IN

11:31:44AM OUR CITY.

11:31:45AM THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS THROUGH THE BIBLE STUDY

11:31:48AM THAT FOLLOWS, I HEAR CHALLENGING QUESTIONS, THINGS LIKE, HOW

11:31:54AM DO YOU FOLKS GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY MORNINGS TO WORSHIP A

11:31:58AM SAVIOR WHO WAS FUNCTIONALLY HOMELESS AND THE REST OF THE

11:32:00AM WEEK YOU FORGET ABOUT HIM OR FOR WORSHIPING HOMELESS SAVIOR,

11:32:06AM YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE FOR THEM TO SLEEP AT NIGHT?

11:32:08AM THE CITY MADE A PROMISE.

11:32:11AM IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.

11:32:13AM I KNOW NOT EVERYTHING IN THE NEWSPAPER IS ACCURATE.

11:32:19AM PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE THE CITY

11:32:22AM SPOKESPERSON PROMISED TO PUT THOSE BENCHES BACK.

11:32:26AM THEY PROMISED.

11:32:27AM CITY SPOKESPERSON, WHO IS STILL THE CITY'S SPOKESPERSON

11:32:31AM TODAY IS SAYING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

11:32:34AM NOW SAYING WE KNOW THERE WAS THAT PROMISE BUT NOW WE WANT TO

11:32:37AM HAVE A CAFE.

11:32:38AM I GOT HERE ABOUT AN HOUR EARLY.

11:32:40AM I WALKED AROUND.

11:32:42AM I SAW ALL KINDS OF CAFES, MANY WITH OUTDOOR SPACES.

11:32:46AM YOU WOULD BE COMPETING WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES BY DOING




11:32:48AM THAT.

11:32:48AM I ALSO TALKED WITH FOLKS WHO DON'T HAVE HOMES AND ASKED THEM

11:32:53AM WHAT THEY THOUGHT.

11:32:54AM THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH USED TO HAVING PROMISES BROKEN.

11:32:57AM THIS IS A PROMISE YOU GUYS MADE AS THE CITY.

11:32:59AM THE CITY MADE THIS PROMISE TO PUT THE BENCHES BACK.

11:33:02AM THIS IS A MORAL OBLIGATION.

11:33:04AM OUR INITIAL SPEAKER TODAY WHO GAVE THE INVOCATION CALLED US

11:33:08AM TO HEED THE HOLY SPIRIT.

11:33:09AM IN THE WORDS OF SCRIPTURE, WE ARE TOLD TO LOVE GOD ABOVE ALL

11:33:14AM ELSE AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES.

11:33:16AM THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS, WHETHER THEY DRESS UP IN SHIRTS AND

11:33:18AM TIES AND HAVE A CAR AND A HOME OR NOT, THESE ARE OUR

11:33:21AM NEIGHBORS.

11:33:21AM HONOR YOUR COMMITMENTS TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.

11:33:24AM DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM OR A

11:33:29AM NON-RELIGIOUS GROUP WHO HELPS FOLKS OUT.

11:33:31AM THIS IS AN AMERICAN PROMISE WE'VE MADE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

11:33:34AM PLEASE HONOR THAT.

11:33:35AM DON'T ALLOW THIS CAFE TO GO IN THERE, TAKING AWAY ONE OF THE

11:33:38AM FEW PUBLIC SPACES WHERE FOLKS CAN HANG OUT.

11:33:40AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

11:33:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:33:42AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

11:33:44AM >> MY NAME IS JIMMY DUNSON.




11:33:47AM I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BENCHES IN GASLIGHT PARK AS

11:33:51AM WELL.

11:33:51AM FIRST, I WANTED TO ASK FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING FOR THE STRONG

11:33:55AM EMOTIONS THAT THIS SUBJECT EVOKES.

11:33:57AM MANY OF US HAVE BECOME CLOSE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE

11:34:01AM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.

11:34:03AM WE SHARE MEALS TOGETHER.

11:34:04AM WE TEND PEOPLE'S WOUNDS.

11:34:07AM JUST RECENTLY IN THE PAST MONTH, THREE OF OUR FRIENDS ON THE

11:34:10AM STREETS HAVE DIED.

11:34:11AM SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES US VERY DEEPLY AND

11:34:17AM CULTURALLY.

11:34:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY AMENITIES THAT ARE IN THE PARK,

11:34:24AM EVERYBODY, INCLUDING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THAT

11:34:28AM A CAFE OR WHATEVER OTHER ADDITIONS TO THE PARK ARE NOT DONE

11:34:35AM AT THE EXPENSE OF FURTHER MARGE ANALYZING -- MARGINALIZING

11:34:41AM AND FORCING PEOPLE OUT ALREADY MARGINALIZED AND PUSHED TO

11:34:45AM THE EDGES ALREADY MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE.

11:34:50AM IT'S NOT JUST THE BENCHES.

11:34:51AM IT'S TRASH CANS, TOO.

11:34:53AM FOR SOME REASON, THE CITY DECIDED TO REMOVE THE TRASH CANS

11:34:57AM FROM THE PARK AS WELL.

11:34:58AM DURING OUR FOOD SHARES, WE BRING TRASH BAGS TO COLLECT THE

11:35:02AM GARBAGE AND BRING WITH US WHEN WE LEAVE.

11:35:04AM WE REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE




11:35:10AM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AT THE FORETHOUGHT OF YOUR POLICY.

11:35:15AM IF YOU CAN LIAISON WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE CITY TO

11:35:22AM GET THE BENCHES AND TRASH CANS BACK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND

11:35:25AM IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.

11:35:27AM THANK YOU.

11:35:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:35:30AM NEXT SPEAKER.

11:35:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:35:31AM CONNIE BURTON.

11:35:32AM I WOULD JUST SAY FIRST, DO NOT ALLOW THIS COUNCIL TO BE SET

11:35:37AM UP THAT WE HAVE A QUEEN OF THE LORDS AND YOU THINK WE'RE

11:35:42AM YOUR SUBJECTS.

11:35:43AM IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK THAT WAY.

11:35:45AM WE WANT TO HAVE MUTUAL RESPECT FOR YOU AND WE WANT YOU TO

11:35:47AM HAVE MUTUAL RESPECT OF OUR TIME.

11:35:50AM NUMBER ONE, SEVERAL THINGS ON THE AGENDA I WANT TO TALK

11:35:52AM ABOUT.

11:35:52AM THE MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.

11:35:55AM SOME OF YOU WAS NOT HERE IN 2017, BUT SOME WERE.

11:35:58AM AS A RESULT OF A NON-CARING COMMUNITY, NOW WE HAVE THE

11:36:03AM DISPENSARY.

11:36:05AM WE GOT INTERNET CAFES, AND I'M SURE MORE TO COME.

11:36:08AM YOU KNOW WHY?

11:36:09AM BECAUSE THAT IS THE DUMPING HUB FOR THINGS THAT WILL NOT

11:36:14AM SHOW UP ON BAYSHORE.




11:36:16AM I WANT TO SEE HOW MANY DISPENSARIES COME OUT OF THERE.

11:36:19AM I WOULD HOPE SOME OF YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE TO SAY

11:36:22AM THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT SUFFERED THE BRUNT OF SO MANY

11:36:26AM ARRESTS FROM MARIJUANA, THAT EVEN IF IT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR

11:36:29AM LANE, YOU SPEAK OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN EXPUNGE SOME OF THOSE

11:36:34AM CHARGES THE WAY WE SEE SO MANY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ARE

11:36:36AM DOING.

11:36:37AM DON'T LET FLORIDA AND TAMPA BE THE LAST OF THE LAST.

11:36:39AM OTHER THING ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 54, NUMBER 55, AS TO

11:36:44AM HOW LOTS BECOME AFFORDABLE FOR $245,000, $8,000, WHEN IN OUR

11:36:53AM COMMUNITY, IN EAST TAMPA, WE ARE TRYING TO GET LOTS AND WE

11:36:57AM SEE THE CRA BECOMES IN CONTROL OF THE LOTS, THEN THE LOTS

11:37:01AM THEN IS RAFFLED OFF TO HIGH BIDDERS.

11:37:05AM THE COMMUNITIES STILL DO NOT HAVE A SAY IN WHAT WE WANT TO

11:37:09AM SEE HAPPEN TO OUR COMMUNITY.

11:37:11AM YOU KNOW THAT.

11:37:11AM WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON DRUMMING THAT DOWN, TOO, AS WELL AS

11:37:16AM ALL OF THE MONIES THAT'S COMING THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY.

11:37:18AM I COULD TELL YOU STRAIGHT UP, JUST LIKE MR. HART AND THE

11:37:21AM OTHER ONE COULD NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT MINORITY PARTICIPATION

11:37:24AM GOING TO BE, IT'S PROBABLY AT 000.1%.

11:37:29AM THEY TOO EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.

11:37:31AM MOST PEOPLE IN THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY, WHERE THE ECONOMY AND

11:37:35AM JOBS MAY BE AT THE NATIONAL PACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS

11:37:38AM ABOUT 50% OF UNEMPLOYMENT.




11:37:41AM IN TERMS OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP, THE TRADITION IN OUR COMMUNITY

11:37:44AM HAS BEEN TO GO TO SCHOOL SO YOU CAN GET A GOOD JOB, NOT TO

11:37:48AM GO TO SCHOOL AND BECOME AN ENTREPRENEUR.

11:37:50AM SO WHEN ALL OF THIS MONEY IS FLYING AROUND IN THIS CITY, A

11:37:55AM MILLION DOLLARS, HOW MANY TRILLIONS WITH S.W.F.W.M.D., ASK

11:38:00AM THE QUESTION, HOW MANY JOB OPPORTUNITIES ARE BEING AFFORDED

11:38:05AM THE LEAST FORTUNATE IN OUR COMMUNITY?

11:38:08AM AND THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS

11:38:12AM COUNCIL, THAT ALL OF YOU LOOK WELL GROOMED THIS MORNING,

11:38:15AM PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT OUT OF YOUR CAR, PROBABLY

11:38:18AM DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO McDONALD'S AND BRUSH YOUR TEETH, BUT

11:38:21AM IT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

11:38:22AM I WOULD HOPE SOME OF YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE BEFORE

11:38:25AM YOUR NEXT ELECTION CYCLE TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ON

11:38:28AM THIS ISSUE OF ERADICATING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE

11:38:33AM COMMUNITY AT A TIME.

11:38:34AM THANK YOU.

11:38:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:38:35AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:38:36AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:38:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:38:40AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.

11:38:43AM THANK YOU, CONNIE, FOR LEADING INTO WHAT I NEED TO SAY.

11:38:46AM FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNCIL NEED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU WORK FOR

11:38:48AM THE VOTERS.




11:38:49AM WE VOTED YOU IN.

11:38:52AM WE CAN VOTE YOU OUT.

11:38:53AM SAYING THAT NEXT THE STAFF WORK FOR YOUTH.

11:38:56AM YOU ALL SHOULD REVISIT WHEN YOU ALLOW THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO

11:39:01AM COME FORWARD TO YOU.

11:39:02AM I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY, TO

11:39:06AM THINK ABOUT THE HOMELESS.

11:39:08AM WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.

11:39:10AM YOUR OWN WORKERS, YOUR OWN STAFF CANNOT GO TO THE PARK AND

11:39:14AM HAVE A BAGGED LUNCH BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO SIT AT.

11:39:19AM IF YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE, THE CAFE IS GOING TO BE FOR PAYING

11:39:23AM CUSTOMERS ONLY.

11:39:25AM ALSO, THE ZONING FOR THE MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTING.

11:39:30AM COUNCILMAN, I'M GLAD YOU POINTED OUT YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY

11:39:33AM BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE SOME LOOPHOLE WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THE

11:39:38AM CITY BACK FROM THE STATE.

11:39:39AM THIS IS OUR CITY.

11:39:40AM WE NEED TO LOOK AND FIND THE LOOPHOLES AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO.

11:39:43AM 2021, THE SUPER BOWL, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.

11:39:50AM BLACK FOLKS WILL NOT GET ANY WORK DONE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY

11:39:56AM HAVE A STIPULATION.

11:39:57AM THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR.

11:39:59AM OKAY, MANY PEOPLE WORK FROM THEIR HOME.

11:40:02AM THEY DON'T HAVE THESE SHOPS.

11:40:04AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT LICENSED.




11:40:05AM NOT SAYING THEY CANNOT DO THE JOB.

11:40:08AM THEY CAN DO THE JOB, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

11:40:11AM SO THE BAR HAS ALREADY BEEN SET HIGH WHERE WE WOULD BE LEFT

11:40:15AM OUT AGAIN, AND TAMPA WOULD BE SAYING, E O, WE REACHED OUT TO

11:40:19AM YOU ALL.

11:40:20AM NO, YOU DIDN'T.

11:40:21AM IT'S SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

11:40:23AM IT'S NOT GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME WORK WITH

11:40:27AM THE SUPER BOWL.

11:40:29AM AS A TAXPAYER, WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED AND WE NEED TO HAVE A

11:40:32AM PART OF THE PIE.

11:40:33AM THE YOUNG LADY SPOKE ABOUT THE MAYOR COMING ON THE TALK

11:40:36AM SHOW.

11:40:37AM THE NAME OF THE SHOW IS WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.

11:40:39AM I'M ONE OF THE HOSTS.

11:40:42AM NOT ONLY DID SHE COME ON THE SHOW, BUT THAT'S HOW WE ENDED

11:40:45AM UP ON 40th STREET BECAUSE THE CITIZENS SPOKE OUT ABOUT THE

11:40:48AM ROUNDABOUT.

11:40:49AM WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR COMING OUT, BUT WHAT

11:40:52AM TOOK PLACE WHEN YOU WORK WITH YOUR CITIZENS, WHEN YOU LISTEN

11:40:55AM AT YOUR CITIZENS, THEN CHANGES CAN COME ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE

11:40:57AM ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAS GOTTEN IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE WE CAME

11:41:01AM TOGETHER ON THAT PROJECT.

11:41:03AM SO YOU NEED TO STOP LEAVING OUT THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE AND

11:41:07AM START LISTENING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE COMMON SENSE.




11:41:10AM AND BACK TO THE BENCHES, MY FACE IS ON QUITE A FEW BENCHES

11:41:14AM IN THIS TOWN.

11:41:15AM IT DOES NOT TAKE MONTHS TO GET A BENCH REPLACED BECAUSE WHEN

11:41:22AM SOMETHING HAPPEN TO MINE, I MAKE A PHONE CALL, WITHIN DAYS

11:41:25AM THOSE BENCHES ARE PUT BACK.

11:41:27AM LET'S STOP THE SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

11:41:29AM LET'S STOP TRYING TO PLAY ON PEOPLE'S INTELLIGENCE AND LET

11:41:31AM IT BE KNOWN THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE WILL NOT BE THE LAST

11:41:36AM TO START.

11:41:37AM THE ONLY REASON WE DON'T WANT THE BENCHES IS BECAUSE THE

11:41:41AM SUPER BOWL IS COMING AND YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THAT

11:41:46AM WE'RE HOMELESS.

11:41:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:41:48AM APPRECIATE IT.

11:41:49AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:41:58AM >> IS THE ELMO WORKING TODAY?

11:41:59AM JOHN MOL, 4104 NORTH LEN AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

11:42:11AM I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MITIGATION CREDIT FOR ABOUT THREE

11:42:15AM YEARS, AND LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SOMEONE HANDED ME A

11:42:18AM MEMORANDUM, AND I HAVE ON THE ELMO HERE.

11:42:24AM IF YOU WANT TO SEE A PROPERTY THAT RETAINS AND TREATS ALL OF

11:42:30AM THE STORMWATER ON-SITE, COME TO MY PROPERTY.

11:42:34AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WILL TAKE ME UP ON THAT.

11:42:37AM ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE THIS BEING DONE, I'M DOING IT RIGHT

11:42:40AM NOW.




11:42:40AM I'M NOT GOING ANY STORMWATER TO THE CITY STREET OR DITCH.

11:42:47AM MY ROOF HAS BEEN THERE A HUNDRED YEARS, NOT ONE DROP IN

11:42:49AM THOSE HUNDRED YEARS HAS EVER REACHED A CITY PROPERTY.

11:42:53AM YET, OPEN UP MY TAX BILL, THERE IT SITS.

11:42:58AM IT SAYS A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT, BUT IT SAYS A TAX

11:43:03AM AMOUNT.

11:43:04AM THIS IS JUST A TAX DISGUISED AS A USER FEE.

11:43:08AM I'M NOT USING ANY CITY PIPES.

11:43:10AM I DON'T USE CITY WATER.

11:43:11AM I DON'T USE CITY SEWER, AND I DON'T USE CITY DRAINAGE.

11:43:15AM SO WHY DOES IT SHOW HERE THAT I HAVE TO PAY ABOUT 30% OF MY

11:43:21AM TAXES IS FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT DOESN'T RUN OFF MY

11:43:27AM PROPERTY.

11:43:28AM IT SAYS THAT IN AN ATTEMPT TO EXPEDITIOUSLY RESOLVE THE

11:43:35AM MATTER, THE STAFF IS CONDUCTING AN ENGINEERING REVIEW OF THE

11:43:37AM PROPERTY.

11:43:38AM HAS ANYBODY SEEN AN ENGINEERING REVIEW OF A PROPERTY SIGNED

11:43:43AM BY A P. E. WHOSE LICENSE IS ON THE LINE?

11:43:46AM I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYBODY WANTING TO -- A

11:43:51AM STAFF MEMBER COMING TO LOOK AT MY PROPERTY.

11:43:53AM YOU DON'T NEED A SOMETHING FLYING OVER TO SHOW WHERE THE

11:44:03AM RAIN GOES ON MY PROPERTY.

11:44:05AM THANK YOU.

11:44:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:44:09AM NEXT, PLEASE.




11:44:10AM I BELIEVE THESE TWO LADIES WILL BE THE LAST FOR PUBLIC

11:44:14AM COMMENT.

11:44:15AM OKAY, MS. LONG.

11:44:16AM I GUESS THREE LADIES.

11:44:17AM ANYONE ELSE AFTER MS. LONG, JUST TO MAKE SURE?

11:44:21AM >> SUSAN MORGAN.

11:44:22AM I AM HERE TODAY FROM GRACEPOINT.

11:44:25AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE FLORIDA RANKS THIRD IN THE NATION

11:44:28AM FOR DRUG OVERDOSES AND DEATH -- DUE TO DEATH THEREOF.

11:44:33AM AND WE HAVE ON AVERAGE 1100 PEOPLE A MONTH COME TO

11:44:39AM GRACEPOINT THAT'S IN A MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE

11:44:41AM CRISIS.

11:44:42AM ABOUT 80 TO 90 PERCENT OF THOSE TEST POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA.

11:44:46AM ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE 1500 PEOPLE A WEEK COME TO OUR

11:44:49AM OUTPATIENT SERVICES RIGHT THERE ON OUR CAMPUS TO RECEIVE

11:44:52AM OUTPATIENT SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

11:44:56AM I THINK IN SPEAKING TO MOST OF YOU AND OTHER FOLKS IN THE

11:44:59AM COMMUNITY, MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THAT HAVING A MEDICAL

11:45:02AM MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER CLOSELY LOCATED TO TREATMENT

11:45:07AM FACILITIES IS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST SENSITIVE OR BEST IDEA.

11:45:11AM I UNDERSTAND WE'RE LIMITED HERE AS TO THE REGULATIONS THAT

11:45:14AM TALLAHASSEE AND THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HAS SET FORTH, BUT

11:45:17AM AS COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED, PERHAPS IT MIGHT BE AN

11:45:20AM OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE LEAGUE

11:45:23AM OF CITIES AND TO THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.




11:45:27AM I'M NOT SURE HOW ALL OF THAT WORKS.

11:45:29AM BUT ADDITIONALLY, THE WAY THE REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN, IT

11:45:33AM DOES ALLOW SOME REGULATION IN THE LAND USE.

11:45:37AM SO IT MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, EVEN IF WE CAN'T

11:45:40AM DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION GOING FORWARD.

11:45:44AM I TRIED TO PRINT A MAP OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL GENERAL SITES

11:45:47AM THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY.

11:45:48AM UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T SAVVY ENOUGH TO PRINT IT IN SUCH A

11:45:51AM WAY TO MAKE IT USER FRIENDLY HERE FOR THIS PRESENTATION, BUT

11:45:55AM THERE DOES LEAD THAT THERE COULD BE OTHER SITUATIONS SIMILAR

11:45:58AM TO OURS THAT COULD OCCUR IN THE FUTURE.

11:46:00AM SO I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE LAND USE

11:46:04AM MATRIX.

11:46:05AM I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT A QUICK PROCESS.

11:46:07AM IT'S A LITTLE BIT LENGTHY.

11:46:08AM THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BUT THEN ALSO IN THE CURRENT

11:46:11AM ORDINANCE, IT MAY BE BETTER DEFINING WHERE THE PROCESSING

11:46:13AM AND DISTRIBUTION SITES FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA ARE LOCATED.

11:46:17AM CURRENTLY, IT'S IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO

11:46:21AM TAKE TIME TO READ THE DEFINITION, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

11:46:25AM COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

11:46:28AM I'M NOT SURE IF UNDER COMMERCIAL GENERAL, PROCESSING AND

11:46:32AM DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, SUCH AS THE ONE NEXT DOOR TO US THAT

11:46:35AM PLANS TO BE A STATEWIDE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

11:46:38AM WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS AND TRAFFIC THAT




11:46:40AM WOULD GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT IS THE BEST IDEA

11:46:43AM THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED FOR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

11:46:46AM THIS IS OUT OF MY WHEEL HOUSE.

11:46:50AM I'M PUTTING THEM OUT AS AVENUES TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND

11:46:54AM PERHAPS CLARIFYING WHERE NOT BEING ABLE TO CO-LOCATE A

11:46:58AM DISPENSARY WITH PROCESSING OR GROW FACILITY.

11:47:02AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT INTO OUR LAND USE, AND I

11:47:05AM KNOW THAT THE CITY WILL PROBABLY SAY IN THEIR RESEARCH THAT

11:47:08AM WE HAVE TO REGULATE THEM THE SAME AS PHARMACIES.

11:47:11AM BUT MOST PHARMACIES ARE NOT GROWING THEIR MEDICATION.

11:47:13AM THEY ARE NOT DISTRIBUTING THEIR MEDICATION, SO I DON'T THINK

11:47:17AM IT WOULD IMPEDE THEM.

11:47:18AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO HAVE

11:47:20AM THE WORKSHOP EARLIER.

11:47:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. ZELMAN, CAN YOU CHIME IN ON ANY OF THAT

11:47:25AM MS. LONG SAID?

11:47:27AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE ONLY THING I WOULD CORRECT IS UNDER OUR

11:47:30AM CODE, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING THE PROCESSING AND CULTIVATION IN

11:47:36AM THE INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING

11:47:40AM DISTRICTS.

11:47:41AM THE DISPENSARIES, AGAIN, BY STATE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE ANY

11:47:47AM RESTRICTIONS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WE WOULD HAVE FOR A

11:47:50AM PHARMACY.

11:47:51AM SO THEY ARE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

11:47:54AM >> SO THE WAY IT WAS ZONED, THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO US,




11:47:58AM THEY ARE ZONED AS MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER WHICH

11:48:00AM ALLOWS THEM TO GROW, PROCESS, DISTRIBUTE AND AS A

11:48:04AM DISPENSARY.

11:48:05AM IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IN OUR LAND USE

11:48:08AM MATRIX IN THAT DEFINITION IS, AGAIN, I'M THINKING OUTSIDE

11:48:11AM THE BOX HERE, IS NOT BEING ABLE TO CO-LOCATE A PROCESSING

11:48:16AM FACILITY IN A DISPENSARY.

11:48:17AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY FOLKS WANT TO DO

11:48:20AM THAT.

11:48:20AM BUT IF YOU'RE ZONED TO DO THAT AND LET'S FAST-FORWARD FIVE

11:48:23AM YEARS FROM NOW, WE CAN'T --

11:48:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:48:26AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:48:27AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:48:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:48:43AM ELLEN SNELLING.

11:48:44AM I'M A PARENT -- I HAVE A DAUGHTER IN RECOVERY, AND ALSO I'M

11:48:47AM WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ANTI-DRUG ALLIANCE AND TAMPA

11:48:52AM ALCOHOL COALITION.

11:48:53AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT ON THE

11:48:56AM MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

11:48:58AM I'VE DONE MY OWN RESEARCH.

11:49:00AM THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

11:49:02AM NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THE CITY WILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

11:49:06AM ANY OF THEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE




11:49:09AM CAN DO SOMETHING.

11:49:10AM IN FACT, TWO OTHER CITIES -- THE OTHER TWO CITIES WITHIN

11:49:13AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ARE DOING SOMETHING, AND THEY BOTH HAVE

11:49:15AM BANNED MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.

11:49:18AM SO THAT IS VERY CLEAR IN OUR STATE STATUTE THAT CITIES CAN

11:49:23AM DO THAT.

11:49:23AM YOU MAY BE THINKING, WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE MEDICAL

11:49:26AM MARIJUANA, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

11:49:27AM WELL, THEN -- I GAVE YOU COPIES OF FOUR DIFFERENT BANS, AND

11:49:33AM ONE OF THEM IS LAKE WORTH.

11:49:34AM AND LAKE WORTH IS A REALLY NICE CITY OVER ON THE EAST COAST.

11:49:38AM THEY HAD TWO DISPENSARIES.

11:49:40AM THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED THAT WAS ENOUGH.

11:49:44AM THEY ARE VERY UPSET WITH THE STATE, AS YOU ALL MENTIONED,

11:49:47AM THE STATE IS TYING THE HANDS OF CITIES TO BE ABLE TO ZONE

11:49:51AM THE WAY THEY WANT.

11:49:52AM SO THEY DECIDED THEY ARE GOING TO BE WORKING AT THE STATE

11:49:56AM LEVEL TO TRY TO CHANGE THAT.

11:49:57AM IN THE MEANTIME, THEY ARE BANNING.

11:49:59AM SO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, IF IT WAS THE WILL OF THE

11:50:02AM CITY COUNCIL, IS TO GRANDFATHER IN -- I BELIEVE THERE'S

11:50:06AM EIGHT OR NINE DISPENSARIES ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY, AND THEN

11:50:09AM SAY NO NEW DISPENSARIES.

11:50:11AM IN OTHER WORDS, BANNING THE NEW DISPENSARIES.

11:50:14AM I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THAT TO SEE.




11:50:16AM ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT THERE'S A NEW

11:50:19AM CRISIS, AND IT'S CALLED THE VAPE LUNG INJURY CRISIS.

11:50:24AM AND IN FLORIDA, AS OF THIS WEEK, THERE'S BEEN 87 CASES AND

11:50:28AM ONE DEATH.

11:50:29AM AND THIS IS CAUSED BY VAPING MARIJUANA.

11:50:33AM THAT'S THE MOST COMMON CAUSE.

11:50:36AM SOME OF ITS BLACK MARKET, BUT SOME OF IT COMES FROM

11:50:38AM DISPENSARIES.

11:50:39AM IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

11:50:42AM DO WE WANT TO KEEP HAVING, INVITING MORE AND MORE OF THESE

11:50:45AM DISPENSARIES INTO OUR CITY OR IS 8 ENOUGH?

11:50:48AM AND IN MY OPINION, I THINK 8 IS ENOUGH UNTIL THE STATE GIVES

11:50:52AM US MORE LEEWAY TO ZONE BECAUSE ANOTHER SITUATION COULD

11:50:56AM HAPPEN LIKE THIS.

11:50:57AM THEY COULD GO RIGHT NEXT TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, GO WITHIN TEN

11:51:00AM FEET OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THAT MATTER.

11:51:02AM THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE A PHARMACY CAN GO RIGHT NOW.

11:51:04AM THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THEM IS TO BAN THEM.

11:51:07AM A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE SOMETHING WHERE THEY ARE

11:51:10AM PUTTING PHARMACIES, ALL NEW PHARMACIES AND ALL NEW

11:51:14AM DISPENSARIES IN THE SAME ZONING, AND THEY ARE SAYING, MOVING

11:51:18AM FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE ZONING FOR THE NEW PHARMACIES AND NEW

11:51:22AM DISPENSARIES.

11:51:23AM THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT CAN BE DONE AT THIS POINT

11:51:25AM BY THE WAY OUR HANDS ARE TIED.




11:51:27AM I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE

11:51:30AM AND SHOWN INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO

11:51:32AM GIVE UP AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP.

11:51:34AM I'M HOPING THAT THE CITY WILL DO SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD.

11:51:38AM THANK YOU.

11:51:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:51:40AM COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD --

11:51:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. ZELMAN AGAIN.

11:51:43AM UNDER OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER SPECIFIC

11:51:52AM IN REFERENCE TO NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES.

11:51:54AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: RIGHT.

11:51:54AM IF YOU RECALL, BACK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN SEPTEMBER,

11:51:57AM I DID EXPLAIN, IT'S CORRECT THAT UNDER THE STATUTE, THE CITY

11:52:02AM HAD THE OPTION TO BAN DISPENSARIES.

11:52:04AM I WOULD NOTE THAT THE FACILITY IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S KIND OF

11:52:08AM PART OF THE GENESIS OF THIS CONVERSATION IS ALSO A

11:52:12AM CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING FACILITY, WHICH WE CANNOT BAN.

11:52:17AM THAT TOTALLY PREEMPTED BY THE STATE.

11:52:19AM THE STATE DID ALLOW CITIES AND COUNTIES TO, IF THEY CHOSE TO

11:52:24AM BAN DISPENSARIES OUTRIGHT.

11:52:26AM AND AS I TALKED ABOUT IN MY MEMO, BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND

11:52:29AM READ THE TRANSCRIPTS, IN 2017, THIS COUNCIL HAD A VERY

11:52:33AM HEATED DISCUSSION, DEBATE, AS TO WHETHER TO DO THAT, AND THE

11:52:38AM THOUGHT WAS THAT BASED ON MY READ OF THE TRANSCRIPTS -- I

11:52:43AM WASN'T HERE -- THE COUNCIL WAS VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS




11:52:48AM OF CERTAIN PEOPLE TO USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA FOR SOME VERY

11:52:51AM TRAGIC ILLNESSES AND DECIDED NOT TO BAN DISPENSARIES, TO

11:52:54AM ALLOW THEM.

11:52:55AM ONCE THE CITY DECIDES TO ALLOW THEM, THEN AGAIN, THE STATE

11:52:59AM REALLY LIMITS YOU IN WHAT YOU CAN DO.

11:53:01AM YOU CAN'T LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THEM.

11:53:05AM YOU CAN'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS MORE THAN YOU WOULD HAVE FOR A

11:53:08AM PHARMACY.

11:53:08AM I WOULD ALSO NOTE JUST IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS,

11:53:12AM THERE ARE, IN FACT, SEVERAL DISPENSARIES IN, FOR EXAMPLE,

11:53:16AM THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA.

11:53:18AM MOST OF THEM TEND TO BE IN VERY NON-DESCRIPT STRIP SHOPPING

11:53:22AM CENTERS.

11:53:23AM YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU'RE DRIVING PAST THEM AS YOU DRIVE

11:53:26AM PAST.

11:53:26AM JUST SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE, THE DISPENSARIES, THERE ARE, IN

11:53:30AM FACT, A NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES IN SOUTH TAMPA.

11:53:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD YOU GRANDFATHER WHAT'S EXISTING NOW

11:53:37AM AND NOT ALLOW ANY MORE NEW --

11:53:39AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT BACK IN

11:53:41AM SEPTEMBER.

11:53:42AM WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT TRYING TO PUT THAT HORSE BACK IN THE

11:53:47AM BARN AT THIS POINT.

11:53:48AM THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, RENDERING THE

11:53:54AM EXISTING FACILITIES NONCONFORMING.




11:53:57AM WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH INVESTMENT-BACKED EXPECTATIONS WHO HAVE

11:54:00AM BOUGHT PROPERTY OR PLANNING TO OPEN DISPENSARIES, HAVE NOT

11:54:03AM DONE SO.

11:54:04AM IF WE SUDDENLY AFTER THE FACT TRIED TO DO A BAN, WE THINK WE

11:54:10AM WOULD BE FACED WITH SIGNIFICANT LEGAL EXPOSURE.

11:54:12AM THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNCIL NOT DO THAT.

11:54:14AM AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE FACILITY IN EAST

11:54:18AM TAMPA, WHICH IS ALREADY APPROVED, IT ALSO IS A CULTIVATING

11:54:24AM AND PROCESSING FACILITY WHICH WE CANNOT BAN.

11:54:26AM AGAIN, WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL NOT GO BACK

11:54:30AM AND TRY TO BAN THEM NOW AFTER TWO YEARS OF THEM BEING

11:54:34AM ALLOWED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

11:54:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN.

11:54:40AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

11:54:45AM >> SUSAN LONG.

11:54:49AM MAINLY, I WANT TO MAKE A VERY BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT -- 100.

11:55:05AM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE

11:55:08AM DISPENSARIES.

11:55:08AM WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRODUCTION FACILITY GOING IN

11:55:11AM ON THE EDGE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE

11:55:15AM ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR US.

11:55:17AM WE'LL BE SMELLING IT AND HAVING THE DUST, ET CETERA.

11:55:20AM THAT'S A VERY MAJOR CONCERN.

11:55:21AM I DID LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY OF LEGAL AND SAID WE CAN'T DO

11:55:25AM ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS VERY FRUSTRATING.




11:55:28AM ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE WITH ME AND FIGHT THE

11:55:30AM FACT THAT THEY ARE TAKING AWAY ALL OUR RIGHTS, I WOULD BE

11:55:33AM MORE THAN WILLING TO GO.

11:55:34AM THE OTHER THING, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ANGUS GOSS POOL.

11:55:38AM I LISTENED TO MR. BAIRD SAY THE POOL, COVERS A LOT OF

11:55:44AM THINGS, KIDDY POOL, SPLASH POOL.

11:55:47AM WE DON'T WANT A SPLASH POOL.

11:55:48AM WE HAVE A SPLASH POOL.

11:55:50AM WE HAVE THEM AT GIDDENS PARK.

11:55:52AM WE WANT A POOL WHERE YOU CAN GET IN AND SWIM, TEACH KIDS HOW

11:55:55AM TO SWIM, THE SWIM TEAM ACROSS THE STREET DOESN'T HAVE TO

11:55:58AM HAVE KIDS DRIVE KIDS ALL THE WAY ACROSS TAMPA TO DO THEIR

11:56:03AM PRACTICES BECAUSE THERE'S NO POOL IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:56:07AM WE WANT A REAL SWIMMING POOL, NOT A SPLASH PAD OR WADING

11:56:12AM POOL FOR TWO-YEAR-OLDS.

11:56:14AM THESE ARE ADULTS THAT WANT TO DO WATER AEROBICS.

11:56:16AM THEY WANT TO SWIM LAPS AND WE WOULD LIKE A POOL TO DO THAT.

11:56:20AM YOU'LL HAVE US SCREAMING AND YELLING IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

11:56:23AM A POOL ONLY FOR LITTLE KIDS THAT CAN BARELY WALK.

11:56:27AM THE OTHER THING IS, ON THE BRICKS, I LIVE ON THE STREET

11:56:31AM WHERE ALL THE BRICKS WERE COVERED IN ASPHALT.

11:56:35AM OVER TIME, SOME OF THE BRICKS HAVE DIED, SO WE HAVE JUST A

11:56:38AM PUDDLE OF ASPHALT THERE.

11:56:39AM BUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WHERE THE OAK TREES HAVE KIND OF

11:56:42AM TORN UP THE STREET A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE REAL BRICKS UNDER




11:56:45AM THERE.

11:56:46AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM COME BACK.

11:56:49AM FROM WHAT I HEARD TODAY, THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

11:56:52AM I FIND THAT VERY FRUSTRATING.

11:56:53AM WE HAVE A MAJOR SPEED ISSUE ON OUR ROAD.

11:56:56AM THEY COME OFF NEBRASKA AND GO 90 MILES AN HOUR TO GET

11:56:59AM WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING, OR THEY COME RACING UP, LITERALLY

11:57:03AM DRAG RACING UP TO NEBRASKA AND WONDER WHY WE'RE UPSET WITH

11:57:08AM THE SPEEDING.

11:57:10AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME WAY WE COULD GET AT LEAST SOME

11:57:14AM IMPROVEMENT ON THAT, BRICKS OR SOME OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING.

11:57:19AM THANK YOU.

11:57:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:57:21AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:57:22AM ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF

11:57:33AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?

11:57:33AM THERE BEING NONE, WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

11:57:37AM WE WILL MOVE ITEMS SAVE FOR 56 --

11:57:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE, IN RESPONSE TO

11:57:46AM A COMMUNITY COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO VERY QUICKLY PULL 54 AND 55

11:57:56AM AS WELL.

11:57:57AM 54 IS NOT GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL.

11:58:00AM 55 I'M WAITING TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF,

11:58:03AM WHICH WE CAN WAIT ON FOR A SECOND.

11:58:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE SEEKING TO PULL 54 AND 55.




11:58:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET STAFF HERE.

11:58:11AM YOU WANT DISCUSSION?

11:58:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE SOME STAFF HERE ALREADY.

11:58:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

11:58:15AM HOW ABOUT THIS?

11:58:17AM WE'LL SEPARATE AND THEN 54, 55, 56 AND MOVE THE REST.

11:58:21AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, IF I MAY.

11:58:23AM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:58:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

11:58:27AM I MOVE ITEMS NUMBERS -- EXCUSE ME, YES, NUMBER 6 THROUGH 20,

11:58:35AM IF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON ARE OKAY

11:58:40AM WITH ITEM 20.

11:58:42AM THEN I'LL INCLUDE ITEM 20.

11:58:43AM THAT'S 6 THROUGH 21.

11:58:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:58:48AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:58:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:58:50AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:58:51AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, SIR.

11:58:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, AS THE VICE-CHAIR OF PARKS AND

11:58:57AM RECREATION, I'LL MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 26.

11:59:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

11:59:03AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:59:05AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:59:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?




11:59:08AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:59:08AM NEXT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, PUBLIC WORKS.

11:59:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:59:13AM I'LL MOVE ITEMS 27 THROUGH 42 WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION

11:59:21AM NUMBER 30.

11:59:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:59:24AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:59:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:59:26AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:59:26AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, SIR.

11:59:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:59:32AM MOVE ITEMS 43 -- [INAUDIBLE] 49.

11:59:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:59:38AM A SECOND I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:59:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:59:40AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:59:41AM CONGRATULATIONS TO SIMMONS ON 47.

11:59:47AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR BUILDING, ZONING AND PRESERVATION

11:59:50AM WITH THE THREE ITEMS OMITTED.

11:59:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 50

11:59:57AM THROUGH 53 AND THEN 57 THROUGH 61 AND I NEED TO PULL NUMBER

12:00:06PM 62.

12:00:07PM I CAN EXPLAIN IN A SECOND.

12:00:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:00:09PM LET ME STOP THERE.




12:00:11PM FOR PULLING ITEMS, PLEASE, LET'S HAVE THEM PULLED THE DAY

12:00:16PM BEFORE.

12:00:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: CONFLICT.

12:00:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: 50 THROUGH 53, 57 THROUGH 61 AND THEN 63

12:00:28PM THROUGH 75.

12:00:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE

12:00:35PM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MOVE FOR THE ONE YOU'RE

12:00:38PM NOT ALLOWED TO DO SO.

12:00:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO HAVE A SECOND.

12:00:42PM ALSO, TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IN THE RECORD, ACCEPTING THE

12:00:49PM SUBSTITUTE ON NUMBER 63.

12:00:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND A SECOND I

12:00:59PM THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:01:00PM -- OH, MIRANDA.

12:01:02PM I APOLOGIZE.

12:01:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:01:03PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:01:04PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND MOVING THAT ITEM.

12:01:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU STEP OUT, SIR, IF YOU'LL HAVE A

12:01:13PM SEAT.

12:01:13PM IT'S ONLY ONE ITEM.

12:01:16PM IF YOU CAN ANNOUNCE YOUR INTENTION TO ABSTAIN AND NATURE OF

12:01:19PM THE CONFLICT AND --

12:01:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL SUBMIT THE FORM.




12:01:25PM MY COMPANY HAS A CLIENT THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH THIS ISSUE,

12:01:28PM SO I NEED TO ABSTAIN.

12:01:31PM 62.

12:01:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT, SIR?

12:01:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 62.

12:01:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:01:44PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:01:47PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:01:49PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:01:51PM WE USUALLY BREAK FOR LUNCH.

12:01:54PM I THINK WE CAN GET EVERYTHING IN BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH

12:01:59PM IN TERMS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

12:02:02PM IF YOU PROMISE NOT TO TAKE MORE THAN --

12:02:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO 54, YOUNG LADY IN THE

12:02:10PM AUDIENCE SPOKE VERY ARTICULATELY.

12:02:13PM SHE SAID WHY ARE WE GIVING AWAY PROPERTY FOR $245?

12:02:17PM I PULLED THE BACKUP ON THAT, AND SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO

12:02:22PM RESPOND BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.

12:02:23PM THIS IS A TINY LITTLE PIECE OF -- IT'S A STRIP -- TINY STRIP

12:02:29PM OF LAND, 350 SQUARE FEET, WHAT THEY CALL AN UNECONOMIC

12:02:33PM REMAINDER THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, PROBABLY THROUGH EMINENT

12:02:37PM DOMAIN, WHATEVER, ENDED UP CONTINUING TO BE IN OUR POTION.

12:02:41PM 350 SQUARE FEET IS 35 BY 10.

12:02:44PM IT'S NOT BUILDABLE OR ANYTHING ELSE.

12:02:46PM I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT.




12:02:50PM IN A SECOND I'LL MOVE THAT.

12:02:52PM I ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT NUMBER 55 BECAUSE THAT'S

12:02:54PM $8,000 ITEM FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 814 EAST PALM AVENUE.

12:02:59PM I WAS JUST -- THEY SAID THERE WAS A BACKUP ON THE EXHIBIT,

12:03:02PM BUT I COULDN'T FIND THE EXHIBIT.

12:03:04PM WHAT DID YOU FIND?

12:03:06PM >> I FOUND OUT FROM REAL ESTATE THAT THIS ALSO IS AN

12:03:08PM UNECONOMIC REMAINDER.

12:03:09PM IT WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED TO WIDEN PALM

12:03:12PM AVENUE IN THE '70s.

12:03:14PM AND IT'S A LOT 41 BY 50 FEET.

12:03:17PM THOSE ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE LOT.

12:03:18PM IT'S UNBUILDABLE.

12:03:19PM AND THEY HAVE OFFERED IT TO SALE TO THE PROPERTY ON THE

12:03:22PM CORNER.

12:03:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 41 BY 50?

12:03:28PM >> YES.

12:03:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NEAR YBOR CITY?

12:03:31PM >> YES.

12:03:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.

12:03:33PM I THINK IT'S SORT OF CHEAP BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE CAN

12:03:37PM BECOME BUILDABLE LOTS IF YOU GO THROUGH VARIANCES AND THAT

12:03:42PM SORT OF THING.

12:03:43PM DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD?

12:03:48PM >> JORGE MARTIN, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.




12:03:50PM I ACTUALLY WORKED THE DOCUMENTATION WITH THIS TRANSACTION.

12:03:56PM THE CITY POLICY OF THIS POSITION IS TO OFFER UNECONOMIC

12:04:01PM REMAINDERS TO ADJACENT LANDOWNERS.

12:04:03PM AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH A PRICE, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT IS

12:04:08PM USUALLY THE APPRAISED VALUE AT THE APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

12:04:10PM IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THE

12:04:12PM PROPERTY IS APPRAISED FOR.

12:04:16PM THE CITY BENEFITS BECAUSE NOW THE LAND OWNED BY THE SAME

12:04:19PM OWNER IS NOW GOING TO BE TAXED AT A HIGHER AD VALOREM RATE.

12:04:23PM THAT'S GOING TO BRING REVENUES.

12:04:24PM THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MORE --

12:04:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ON THE

12:04:29PM FLIP SIDE, I THINK IF WE PUT THIS ON THE OPEN MARKET AND

12:04:32PM PERHAPS LIST IT FOR AUCTION, I THINK WE COULD GET A LOT MORE

12:04:35PM THAN $8,000.

12:04:40PM >> IT'S UNBUILDABLE.

12:04:41PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S UNBUILDABLE IN ITS CURRENT ZONING

12:04:47PM FORM.

12:04:47PM IT'S 50 BY 40.

12:04:52PM I THINK 50 BY 90.

12:04:54PM 50 BY 40.

12:04:56PM NEVER MIND.

12:04:56PM I WAS THINKING 50 BY 90 WE COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH.

12:05:00PM BUT 50 BY 40, I AGREE WITH YOU.

12:05:02PM OKAY.




12:05:03PM MR. CHAIRMAN WITH THAT, IF NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I

12:05:06PM MOVE 54 AND 55.

12:05:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:05:08PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:05:10PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:05:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:05:13PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:05:15PM WE MOVE TO ITEM 56.

12:05:17PM HAVE A MOTION FOR EXTRA 30 MINUTES, 12:30.

12:05:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.

12:05:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU TWO YEARS

12:05:34PM WITH THE EDC, $538,000 IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND

12:05:39PM PENDING FUNDING APPROPRIATION IN FISCAL YEAR '21,

12:05:42PM $538,000 IN THAT YEAR.

12:05:44PM WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

12:05:47PM WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE EDC AND I BELIEVE OTHER

12:05:51PM ORGANIZATIONS ALSO.

12:05:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:05:53PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:05:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I PULLED THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO

12:05:57PM VOTE AGAINST IT.

12:05:58PM A FEW QUICK POINTS I JUST WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD.

12:06:01PM NUMBER ONE, THE CONTRACT, HAS A 30-DAY OUT, EVEN THOUGH IT

12:06:06PM IS A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT, THERE IS A 30-DAY OUT AND 24-HOUR

12:06:11PM OUT FOR NONPERFORMANCE.




12:06:12PM EVEN THOUGH A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT, WE STILL HAVE FLEXIBILITY

12:06:14PM TO COME BACK AND IDEALLY RENEGOTIATE TERMS OR CHANGE THE

12:06:19PM FUNDING STRUCTURE COMPLETELY.

12:06:22PM NUMBER TWO, AS YOU ALL HAVE SEEN FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS

12:06:25PM AND ALSO FROM THE NUMBERS I PRESENTED AND OTHERS, THE

12:06:27PM BIGGEST ISSUE WE'RE FACING IN TAMPA RIGHT NOW IS OUR HIGH

12:06:30PM POVERTY RATE.

12:06:30PM WE HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST POVERTY RATE OF ANY MAJOR CITY IN

12:06:33PM FLORIDA.

12:06:34PM WE ALSO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.

12:06:36PM WE HAVE A TERRIBLE PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE

12:06:39PM NEED TO FOCUS ALL THE CITY RESOURCES WE CAN ON THOSE TWO

12:06:42PM ISSUES.

12:06:42PM IN WHATEVER LENS WE LOOK AT THE EDC WITH, I THINK WE HAVE TO

12:06:47PM ADD THAT TO THE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT, AND WE ALSO HAVE

12:06:50PM TO COMPARE IT TO WHAT COULD WE DO WITH THE MONEY, 538,000

12:06:55PM COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER BUDGETS WE SPEND IS NOT THAT

12:06:58PM MUCH MONEY, BUT IT COULD GIVE MORE THAN 105 -- MORE THAN

12:07:06PM HUNDRED $5,000 GRANTS TO SMALL MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.

12:07:10PM HELP US PAY OR SUBSIDIZE TEN OR MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES.

12:07:16PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OTHER ISSUES AND PUT IT THROUGH THAT

12:07:19PM LENS.

12:07:19PM NUMBER THREE, REGIONALISM IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

12:07:21PM IT CAME UP IN THE WATER ISSUE, BUT I TRAVELED THE REGION

12:07:26PM REGULARLY, FROM SARASOTA/BRADENTON TO PINELLAS, TO PASCO,




12:07:31PM AND I GOT FLOODED WITH CALLS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS ABOUT

12:07:34PM PEOPLE BEING VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS NAME CHANGE.

12:07:37PM THERE WERE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CHANGED THEIR NAME AS

12:07:38PM WELL, BUT WE'RE FUNDING THIS ORGANIZATION.

12:07:41PM AS WAS SAID IN THE PAPER A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, THE PEOPLE OF

12:07:44PM TAMPA DON'T WANT CONTROVERSY.

12:07:46PM THEY DON'T WANT CONFLICT.

12:07:47PM WHAT THIS DID, BY CHANGING THIS NAME WITHOUT REGARD TO OUR

12:07:52PM PARTNERS IN THE REGION, IT CAUSED CONFLICT.

12:07:55PM I'VE BEEN FLOODED WITH CALLS.

12:07:56PM YOU SAW THAT MAYOR KRISEMAN WAS CONCERNED, COMMISSIONER LONG

12:08:00PM WROTE AN OP-ED.

12:08:01PM THE HEAD OF THE PINELLAS EDC WROTE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR,

12:08:05PM PASCO COMMISSIONERS HAVE REACHED OUT.

12:08:07PM THEY ARE VERY, VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS.

12:08:10PM WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.

12:08:12PM WHEN WE FIND SOMETHING, THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF

12:08:14PM TAMPA ALSO.

12:08:15PM THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA DON'T WANT US TO HAVE CONFLICT IN THE

12:08:19PM REGION.

12:08:19PM THEY WANT US TO HAVE PEACE.

12:08:21PM I RECOMMEND THAT WE CHARGE THEM WITH PROMOTING REGIONALISM,

12:08:24PM NOT JUST IN NAME, BUT IN ACTUAL COOPERATION.

12:08:27PM IDEALLY, THEY WOULD STILL CHANGE THEIR NAME BACK.

12:08:29PM I THINK THIS WOULD END UP BEING LIKE THE USF MERRILL LYNCH




12:08:32PM LOGO THAT IN A YEAR OR SO WITH THE REGULAR DRUM BEAT, I

12:08:35PM THINK IT WILL EVENTUALLY CHANGE.

12:08:37PM I THINK THEY OUGHT TO APOLOGIZE TO MAYOR KRISEMAN AND THE

12:08:41PM PARTNERS IN THE REGION FOR HOW THEY IN EFFECT SNUB THEM.

12:08:45PM NUMBER FOUR, TRANSPARENCY.

12:08:46PM TRANSPARENCY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND IF AN ORGANIZATION

12:08:48PM IS GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC DOLLARS.

12:08:50PM AT THE VERY MINIMUM, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK THEM TO LIST

12:08:53PM THEIR BOARD MEMBERS ON THEIR WEBSITE.

12:08:55PM WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS RUNNING THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S

12:08:57PM GETTING A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS IN PUBLIC MONEY PER YEAR.

12:09:00PM SOME OF THE PARTNERS ARE GENERICALLY LISTED, BUT THE NAMES

12:09:03PM ARE NOT LISTED.

12:09:04PM SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE LEADERS ARE AND WHO ARE MAKING THE

12:09:07PM DECISIONS ON HOW TO SPEND THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

12:09:09PM ALSO, AND I CAN GIVE YOU A LONGER LIST.

12:09:11PM THIS IS JUST A SHORT LIST, ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE LAST FEW

12:09:14PM YEARS IN THE REPORTING, THEY HAD -- I FORGOT THE

12:09:17PM PERCENTAGES, BUT VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE WERE REPORTED IN TERMS

12:09:20PM OF THE AVERAGE WAGE, AND NOW IN THE MOST RECENT REPORTS,

12:09:23PM THEY ARE HARDLY REPORTING THAT AT ALL.

12:09:25PM WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENT IN THE NUMBERS BEING PRESENTED

12:09:28PM AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS RUNNING THEM AND HOW THEY ARE

12:09:30PM MAKING DECISIONS.

12:09:31PM NUMBER FIVE, ACCOUNTABILITY.




12:09:33PM DO ANY OF YOU -- THINK ABOUT FOR A SECOND, WHAT INDUSTRY

12:09:37PM WOULD YOU SAY MOSAIC IS IN?

12:09:39PM THIS IS FROM THE NEWSPAPER TODAY.

12:09:42PM TAMPA BAY TIMES TODAY IN THE SUB-ED CALLS THEM A FERTILIZER

12:09:51PM COMPANY.

12:09:51PM THE EDC CALLS THEM COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AND MARKET

12:10:03PM RESEARCH.

12:10:03PM I HAD MY STAFF MEMBER AND AN INTERN GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT

12:10:08PM WHAT THE EDC CALLED THEIR COMPANIES THAT THEY HELPED, WHAT

12:10:11PM INDUSTRY THEY PUT THEM IN, AND THEN LOOK AT THE WEBSITE OF

12:10:14PM THE COMPANIES TO SEE WHAT INDUSTRY THEY ARE IN, AND MOST OF

12:10:16PM THEM WERE WRONG.

12:10:17PM SO IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, WE NEED TO

12:10:19PM HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING OVER THAT.

12:10:21PM WORSE, THE CITY COUNCIL INTERN -- I'M GIVING YOU THE VERY,

12:10:27PM VERY SHORT VERSION.

12:10:28PM THE CITY COUNCIL INTERN LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS THEY REPORTED.

12:10:31PM THERE ARE LOTS OF BIG NUMBERS REPORTED IN THE MEDIA.

12:10:33PM THEY LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS.

12:10:34PM THE CITY COUNCIL INTERN LOOKED AT IT AND IN ONE HOUR, A USF

12:10:38PM STUDENT LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND FOUND A $7 MILLION ERROR.

12:10:43PM IN ONE HOUR, ASKING ONE QUESTION AND THE STAFF CONFIRMED

12:10:47PM THAT IT WAS AN ERROR.

12:10:48PM SO THE QUESTION IS, IF THEY ARE MAKING ERRORS IN THE REPORTS

12:10:51PM TO THE CITY AND REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S JUST




12:10:54PM ONE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE REST OF

12:10:56PM THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE?

12:10:58PM WE NEED TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY, NEED TO HAVE STAFF LOOK AT

12:11:00PM IT.

12:11:01PM APPARENTLY STAFF HAS ANOTHER SET OF INFORMATION THAT I WAS

12:11:05PM NOT ORIGINALLY GIVEN BUT IN THE REPORTS, THE BASIC REPORTS

12:11:07PM TO THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL, THE NUMBERS WERE WRONG.

12:11:10PM SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.

12:11:13PM THE LAST THING IS INCLUSIVENESS.

12:11:15PM I COULD GIVE YOU LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF THIS FROM BETTY CASTOR

12:11:19PM AND OTHERS FIGHTING THE UNIVERSITY CLUB FOR INCLUSIVENESS TO

12:11:23PM 1987 SUPREME COURT SAID THAT ROTARY CLUBS HAD TO INCLUDE

12:11:28PM WOMEN, AND THEY SAID IT WAS AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE FOR MEN

12:11:31PM BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT GETTING ACCESS TO INSIDE INFORMATION

12:11:36PM THAT WAS GATHERED BECAUSE THE MEN IN ROTARY CLUBS WERE ABLE

12:11:38PM TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.

12:11:39PM THE SAME THING IN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS.

12:11:41PM THIS IS AN OLD MODEL FROM THE '80s THAT YOU SAY -- THE

12:11:45PM PUBLIC PAYS FOR A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CONFIDENTIAL

12:11:49PM INFORMATION, THAT'S PAID FOR BY THE PUBLIC, AND IT'S SHARED

12:11:52PM AMONG PEOPLE WHO PAY.

12:11:53PM SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, IF THEY WANT TO BE A PRIVATE

12:11:58PM ORGANIZATION, THAT'S FINE.

12:11:59PM BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO GET PUBLIC DOLLARS FROM THE CITY

12:12:03PM AND THE COUNTY, THEY NEED TO BE INCLUSIVE.




12:12:05PM INCLUSIVENESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

12:12:07PM WE NEED TO ASK THEM TO HAVE EVENTS AND PROGRAMMING THAT

12:12:10PM INCLUDES SMALL BUSINESSES.

12:12:13PM SMALL BUSINESSES CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY 10, 20, 50 THOUSAND

12:12:17PM DOLLARS TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR ACTIVITIES.

12:12:19PM AND SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY -- WE HEARD THE PUBLIC

12:12:22PM LINE UP HERE TODAY AND SAY MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES AND

12:12:25PM SMALL BUSINESSES SHOULD HAVE ACCESS IN LOTS OF WAYS.

12:12:27PM YET DEALS ARE BEING CUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND WE'RE PAYING

12:12:31PM FOR IT, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES WE'RE TRYING

12:12:33PM TO HELP.

12:12:34PM WITH THAT, I'LL BE QUIET.

12:12:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:12:37PM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:12:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

12:12:41PM I SEE THE EDC IS HERE.

12:12:46PM MYSELF, I LIKE THE CHAIRMAN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,

12:12:52PM MR. CRAIG RECENTLY COME UP AND TELL ME ABOUT THE EDC, TELL

12:12:55PM THE BOARD, SO WE GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE FUNDING

12:13:00PM COMES FROM, WHO'S THE BOSS OF THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION.

12:13:05PM GIVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EDC, IF YOU WOULD.

12:13:08PM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

12:13:10PM MY NAME IS CRAIG RICHARD, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE EDC.

12:13:14PM WITH ME TODAY IS OUR VICE-CHAIRMAN, JIM WEIS, WHO IS THE

12:13:19PM MARKET PRESIDENT OF FIFTH-THIRD, AND DAVE BEVIRT, WHO IS




12:13:22PM SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF SPP AND WHO IS ALSO REPRESENTING

12:13:27PM JAMES NOZAR, THE PRESIDENT OF SPP, WHO IS OUR

12:13:32PM SECRETARY-TREASURER OF THE ORGANIZATION.

12:13:33PM THE ORGANIZATION IS A 501(C)(6) NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

12:13:38PM WE HAVE ABOUT A $4 MILLION BUDGET.

12:13:41PM APPROXIMATELY 538,000 OF THAT COMES FROM A CONTRACT WITH THE

12:13:46PM CITY COUNCIL.

12:13:46PM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:13:48PM AND THE OTHER 450,000 IS WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

12:13:56PM OF THE $4 MILLION BUDGET, APPROXIMATELY -- WE MATCH ONE

12:14:00PM DOLLAR FROM THE CITY WITH SIX DOLLARS OF PRIVATE FUNDING FOR

12:14:05PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

12:14:07PM IN REGARDS TO THE ORGANIZATION AND ITS GOVERNANCE, THE CHAIR

12:14:14PM THIS YEAR IS MARIE EVERETT.

12:14:17PM SHE IS THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF DTCC.

12:14:21PM SHE REGRETS SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.

12:14:23PM I BELIEVE SHE SENT A LETTER TO COUNCIL TO THAT EFFECT.

12:14:26PM AND THEN OUR GENERAL COUNSEL IS DAVID WEINSTEIN WITH

12:14:30PM GREENBERG.

12:14:32PM WE HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT IS PRIMARILY GOVERNED BY

12:14:38PM MEMBERS AND INVESTORS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THEN THREE

12:14:42PM YEARS AGO, WE ACTUALLY WORKED TO REVISE OUR GOVERNANCE

12:14:48PM STRUCTURE SO THAT IT WOULD ALLOW TEN NEW AT-LARGE POSITIONS

12:14:52PM THAT COULD BE NOMINATED FROM ANY POSITION.

12:14:57PM IT'S AN HONOR TO BE WITH YOU.




12:14:58PM I'M PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND CONTINUE OUR

12:15:01PM SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP.

12:15:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON TALKS ABOUT THE REGION.

12:15:06PM WHAT YOU EXPLAINED TO ME, PINELLAS, MANATEE, POLK, NO OTHER

12:15:10PM ENTITY OUTSIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH AND THE CITY OF TAMPA GIVE TO

12:15:13PM THE ORGANIZATION.

12:15:14PM >> CORRECT.

12:15:15PM THERE'S ONE CAVEAT TO THAT.

12:15:21PM WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S CALLED GLOBAL TAMPA BAY.

12:15:23PM IT IS OUR INTERNATIONAL TRADE PROGRAM.

12:15:25PM ON THAT PROGRAM, WE RECEIVE FUNDING FROM JP MORGAN CHASE TO

12:15:30PM IMPLEMENT A TRADE EXPORT PROGRAM AND A FOREIGN DIRECT

12:15:34PM INVESTMENT PROGRAM.

12:15:35PM PINELLAS AND PASCO PARTNERS WITH US ON THAT PROGRAM.

12:15:39PM THEY'VE AGREED TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THEIR EXPENSES TO

12:15:44PM CARRY OUT THAT PIECE OF THE PROGRAM.

12:15:51PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.

12:15:55PM JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

12:15:59PM I SHARE SOME OF MR. CARLSON'S CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY ON THIS

12:16:03PM MOSAIC ITEM, WHICH SORT OF SURPRISES ME.

12:16:06PM $500,000, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTION OR WHAT YOUR

12:16:13PM CONTRIBUTION WAS IN TERMS OF TIME AND EFFORT, BUT I GUESS,

12:16:17PM WHAT IS THAT?

12:16:17PM SOME SORT OF INVESTMENT FROM MOSAIC?

12:16:22PM I DON'T KNOW.




12:16:23PM JAN PLATT WOULD BE ROLLING OVER IN HER GRAVE IF SHE KNEW

12:16:26PM THAT WE WERE TRYING TO HELP MOSAIC.

12:16:30PM AS THE ARTICLE INDICATED IN THE PAPER, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE

12:16:32PM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY IS STILL HAPPY WITH MOSAIC, AND

12:16:37PM THAT'S AFTER FIGHTING THEM FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS.

12:16:41PM ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO GET LOST IN THE WEEDS ON THAT ONE,

12:16:44PM BUT THAT ONE JUMPED OUT AT ME, MR. CARLSON, I APPRECIATE YOU

12:16:48PM BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

12:16:50PM HOWEVER, ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE

12:16:53PM CONTINUE TO BE TEAM PLAYERS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COUNTY AND

12:16:55PM WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

12:16:57PM IF I THOUGHT THAT OUR $500,000 WAS IT AND YOU WERE JUST SORT

12:17:03PM OF AN OUTSIDE ARM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEN I GUESS I WOULD

12:17:07PM QUESTION THAT, TOO, AND SAY WHY DON'T WE JUST BRING YOU

12:17:10PM IN-HOUSE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

12:17:13PM YOU GET 500,000 FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:17:17PM 500,000 FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, GIVE OR TAKE, AND THEN YOU

12:17:21PM GET ANOTHER $3 MILLION FROM YOUR PRIVATE INVESTORS.

12:17:24PM SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT WE

12:17:29PM AT LEAST FOR NOW CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP IN THE SPIRIT OF

12:17:34PM COOPERATION AND TEAMWORK.

12:17:36PM NOW, WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE SORT OF REVAMPING AND REVISING

12:17:40PM OUR OWN INTERNAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WITH NEW HIRE

12:17:45PM THAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT I HOPE MAYBE SIX MONTHS OR

12:17:48PM SO.




12:17:49PM SO WE WILL WORK WITH THAT PERSON, HE OR SHE TO MAKE SURE

12:17:56PM THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MAYOR'S IDEAS, WITH COUNCIL'S

12:17:59PM IDEAS, AND WITH THE NEW ED'S IDEAS.

12:18:01PM SO WITH ALL THAT, MR. CARLSON, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING

12:18:05PM THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

12:18:07PM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T REALLY SEE AN ALTERNATIVE TO CONTINUING

12:18:11PM TO BE, LIKE I SAY, A TEAM PLAYER WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.

12:18:15PM IF WE JUST YANKED THE CARPET RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A

12:18:18PM PLAN.

12:18:19PM WE DON'T HAVE A PERSON, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE

12:18:23PM OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.

12:18:25PM DENNIS, DID YOU INDICATE THAT THIS ITEM WOULD COME BACK NEXT

12:18:30PM YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER?

12:18:35PM >> THE APPROPRIATION AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR '21 BUDGET

12:18:39PM WILL COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.

12:18:40PM THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR TWO YEARS, BUT YOU CAN ONLY APPROVE A

12:18:44PM BUDGET ON A SINGLE FISCAL USE OF THE APPROPRIATION OF

12:18:47PM 538,000 WILL COME BACK TO YOU AS PART OF THE NEXT BUDGET

12:18:50PM PROCESS.

12:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE YET THIS

12:18:56PM MORNING, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED THAT YOU SEE ON

12:18:58PM THE AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND THAT WAS TO TALK ABOUT THE ROI

12:19:01PM IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY.

12:19:02PM I ASKED FOR IT TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL I THINK MARCH 6.

12:19:06PM THE IDEA THEN IS WE'LL HAVE AS YOU SAID AN ECONOMIC




12:19:09PM DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHO WILL HOPEFULLY BY THEN HAVE A PLAN

12:19:12PM AND SEE WHAT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE IN THE PLAN

12:19:15PM AND ALSO WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS.

12:19:17PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FAIR ENOUGH.

12:19:18PM THANK YOU.

12:19:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

12:19:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD ON

12:19:23PM BOTH SIDES.

12:19:24PM YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT, AND THIS STARTED -- I AM NOT ELECTED

12:19:30PM FOR TAMPA BAY.

12:19:31PM THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOVERNING BODY OR ANYTHING.

12:19:34PM TAMPA BAY IS A BODY OF WATER.

12:19:36PM YOU DON'T HEAR SAN FRANCISCO BAY OR MIAMI BAY, BUT NOW TAMPA

12:19:41PM BAY IS A NEW CATCH WORD FOR EVERYTHING.

12:19:44PM TAMPA BAY BUCS.

12:19:46PM TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.

12:19:48PM WHAT IT'S CALLED.

12:19:49PM I'VE SEEN ADVERTISING ON THE STREET, BUCCANEER PLUMBING

12:19:54PM SERVICE.

12:19:55PM WHATEVER IT WAS.

12:19:56PM AS LONG AS THEY DON'T USE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS THEY'RE ALL

12:19:59PM RIGHT.

12:20:00PM I GUESS.

12:20:00PM I'M NOT A LAWYER.

12:20:01PM YOU LOOK AT TAMPA BAY RAYS.




12:20:04PM TAMPA BAY IS A BODY OF WATER.

12:20:09PM TAMPA BAY WATER.

12:20:09PM WHAT'S MORE CONFUSING THAN TAMPA BAY WATER AND THE CITY OF

12:20:12PM TAMPA WATER?

12:20:13PM YOU, SIR, COME JANUARY, GOING TO RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS

12:20:17PM IN YOUR AREA.

12:20:19PM I'LL TELL YOU TODAY THAT IN JANUARY, YOU WILL BE GETTING

12:20:22PM CALLS FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN NORTH TAMPA, ANYWHERE NORTH

12:20:27PM WHERE THAT WATER WILL BE GOING.

12:20:29PM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DO I LIKE IT?

12:20:31PM MAYBE NOT.

12:20:32PM IT'S GOT THE WORD TAMPA.

12:20:33PM IN FACT, I ASKED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CAN WE OMIT ANYBODY

12:20:36PM FROM USING THE WORD TAMPA.

12:20:37PM THEY TOLD ME ABSOLUTELY NO.

12:20:38PM WAY BEFORE THIS HAPPENED.

12:20:40PM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU CAN'T SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT

12:20:46PM YOU CAN SAY TAMPA BAY WATER.

12:20:47PM YOU CAN SAY TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.

12:20:50PM YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.

12:20:51PM IT'S A SITUATION FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THE THOUSANDS OF JOBS

12:20:56PM THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED, AND NOT ALL JOBS ARE HIGH-PAYING

12:21:00PM JOBS.

12:21:01PM WHEN YOU BUILT THE PLANT OR BUILT SOMETHING THAT COMES IN,

12:21:04PM WHOEVER IS DOING THE MANAGEMENT, WHOEVER IS DOING THE




12:21:07PM CONTRACTING, WHOEVER IS DOING THE BUILDING OF IT, AIN'T

12:21:09PM GOING TO BE SOMEBODY FROM HARVARD.

12:21:11PM IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

12:21:13PM HARVARD GUY OR HARVARD GIRL OR WHATEVER IT IS, GOING TO

12:21:18PM BUILD A TECHNICAL SCHOOL FOR NURSING, ALSO NOT GOING TO

12:21:22PM CLEAN THE BUILDING, GUARANTEE YOU THAT.

12:21:23PM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, THAT THERE'S A RANGE AND I DON'T

12:21:27PM KNOW WHERE THE POPULATION COMES FROM AND WHAT THE SALARIES

12:21:30PM ARE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, PAYROLL.

12:21:36PM IF EVERYBODY WOULD BE A STANDARD PAYROLL, GUESS WHERE WE

12:21:40PM WOULD BE?

12:21:41PM IT WOULD BE UN-AMERICAN BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE GETS PAID ON

12:21:44PM WHAT THEY PRODUCE, NOT LIKE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY, EVERYBODY

12:21:48PM GETS $25 A MONTH NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

12:21:50PM WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TAMPA, WHATEVER YOU WANT

12:21:54PM TO CALL YOURSELF.

12:21:55PM I MAY NOT LIKE IT, AND I'LL SAY THAT PUBLICLY.

12:21:59PM BUT WHEN I GIVE A SPEECH, SOMEBODY SAYS TAMPA, NO, NO.

12:22:03PM I'M NOT TAMPA BAY ANYTHING.

12:22:05PM I'M THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:22:05PM THAT'S WHO ELECTED ME.

12:22:08PM NOBODY ELSE ELECTED ME BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:22:11PM I CAN TELL YOU WHERE ALL THAT STARTED WAS YEARS AGO.

12:22:14PM BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

12:22:18PM I HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.




12:22:20PM IN FACT, SOMEBODY, I EVEN ASKED THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO

12:22:22PM CHANGE THE NAME.

12:22:24PM YOU CAN ASK BRAD BAIRD.

12:22:26PM I CALLED HIM, IS IT POSSIBLE?

12:22:27PM ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE?

12:22:29PM BUT IT'S GETTING HARD TO REPRESENT A CITY THAT'S GROWING SO

12:22:33PM QUICKLY AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO USE THE NAME TAMPA FOR

12:22:36PM SOMETHING.

12:22:37PM IN FACT, YOU CAN GO TO BROOKSVILLE.

12:22:40PM BROOKSVILLE, HERNANDO, BROOKSVILLE, TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH,

12:22:43PM HERNANDO, SOMETHING, INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, BROOKSVILLE.

12:22:46PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME, GO LOOK AT IT, RIGHT THERE ON

12:22:50PM U.S. 19.

12:22:51PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.

12:22:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

12:22:57PM BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY SPOKEN ABOUT THIS

12:23:04PM BEFORE.

12:23:04PM I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE NAME

12:23:09PM CHANGE.

12:23:09PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I PERSONALLY SUPPORT.

12:23:11PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, BUT AS I MADE CLEAR SINCE THAT

12:23:17PM TIME, THAT WAS THE PREFACE TO A LARGER BOOK THAT HAS

12:23:20PM DEVELOPED SINCE THEN.

12:23:21PM I RESPECTFULLY DON'T SEE EYE TO EYE ON THAT ISSUE.

12:23:24PM I THINK THAT THE NAME CHANGE, THOUGH, DOES SEND THE WRONG




12:23:27PM MESSAGE.

12:23:28PM I THINK IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.

12:23:29PM BUT ALSO, IF THE CITY OF TAMPA WERE TO TAKE THE DRACONIAN

12:23:32PM STEP OF NOT FUNDING THE EDC, THAT WOULD ALSO SEND A WRONG

12:23:37PM MESSAGE AND A MUCH MORE POWERFULLY NEGATIVE MESSAGE THAN A

12:23:41PM MERE NAME CHANGE.

12:23:42PM SO THAT'S I DIDN'T RESPECTFULLY CANNOT SUPPORT IT.

12:23:45PM I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S PASSION ON THIS ISSUE, BUT

12:23:49PM I CANNOT SUPPORT IT.

12:23:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, OBVIOUSLY, YOU WILL NOT BE MOVING IT.

12:23:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE TIME.

12:23:55PM I KNOW I'VE GOT TWO BITES AT THE APPLE, NOT TRYING TO TAKE

12:23:58PM THE WHOLE APPLE.

12:23:59PM IT USED TO BE TAMPA STADIUM.

12:24:01PM IT USED TO BE.

12:24:03PM IN FACT, I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE STADIUM FOR TWO

12:24:06PM MONTHS WITHOUT TAKING A BREATH.

12:24:08PM BUT I'M GOING TO CUT IT REAL SHORT.

12:24:10PM 170 BILLION WAS THE COST.

12:24:13PM THEY DON'T TELL YOU ABOUT THE INTEREST.

12:24:14PM COST THE CITY OF TAMPA 250,000 EVERY TIME THERE'S A GAME

12:24:17PM THERE.

12:24:18PM NO ONE IS SAYING STOP THAT.

12:24:19PM THE FIRST TWO MILLION YOU MAKE OFF THE STADIUM, NON-FOOTBALL

12:24:24PM EVENT GOES TO THE OWNERS.




12:24:25PM GOD BLESS THEM.

12:24:26PM AFTER THAT, IT'S 50-50.

12:24:28PM THE PARKING GOES TO THEM.

12:24:31PM THE REVENUES GO TO THEM.

12:24:32PM EVERYTHING GOES TO THEM.

12:24:34PM YOU PAY AD VALOREM TAX, SIR?

12:24:36PM >> YES, SIR.

12:24:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STADIUMS DON'T PAY AD VALOREM TAXES.

12:24:39PM THERE'S MORE AND MORE THAT I CAN TELL YOU.

12:24:44PM I DON'T HAVE TIME.

12:24:45PM CHANGE THE NAME -- SUPPORTING IT.

12:24:50PM IN FACT, AFTER THEY BUILT IT, THE NEXT YEAR THEY FOUND OUT,

12:24:53PM WHOA, $5 MILLION IN AD VALOREM TAX BECAUSE CITY PROPERTY,

12:24:57PM WASN'T IN THE COUNTY.

12:24:58PM WE HAD TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE COUNTY THE LAND SO THEY

12:25:00PM COULD PAY ZERO TAX.

12:25:02PM WHAT A COUNTRY.

12:25:02PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

12:25:05PM IT'S ABOUT MONEY.

12:25:06PM IT AIN'T ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.

12:25:08PM IT'S ALL -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, YOU TALK ABOUT

12:25:12PM ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES I COULD HAVE BUILT?

12:25:15PM I COULD HAVE HAD SOLVED -- COMPLETED, FURNISHED AND

12:25:21PM EVERYTHING.

12:25:21PM BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT GOES.




12:25:23PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.

12:25:25PM I'M NOT ANTI--- ANYBODY CAN STAY HERE.

12:25:28PM ANYBODY IS WELCOME.

12:25:29PM I DO NOT VOTE FOR STADIUM.

12:25:30PM I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE.

12:25:32PM THAT'S HOW I AM.

12:25:34PM THANK YOU.

12:25:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:25:36PM OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL NOT BE MOVING THIS.

12:25:40PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU'RE THE VICE-CHAIR, DO YOU FEEL

12:25:42PM COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, SIR?

12:25:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEM 56.

12:25:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

12:25:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

12:25:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO I BELIEVE A

12:25:50PM SECOND FIRST BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:25:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:25:52PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:25:59PM >> CARLSON VOTING NO.

12:26:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

12:26:02PM WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED HERE UP UNTIL 12:30.

12:26:05PM MR. SHELBY INDICATED TO ME THAT SOME STAFF WAS WAITING FOR

12:26:10PM ITEMS 93, 94 AND 95.

12:26:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, I BELIEVE THEY ALREADY SPOKE TO IT BUT

12:26:17PM THEY ARE BIG-TICKET ITEMS.




12:26:18PM NORMALLY THE ADMINISTRATION HISTORICALLY HAS ASKED THAT

12:26:20PM COUNCIL MOVE THOSE SO THEY HAVE CERTAINTY THAT THEY HAVE

12:26:23PM BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THE BREAK.

12:26:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE MOTIONS --

12:26:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 93, 94, 95.

12:26:30PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT WAS 94, I INQUIRED OF SOLID

12:26:36PM WASTE ABOUT THE MINORITY VENDING GOAL.

12:26:41PM AND MR. WILBANKS RESPONDED.

12:26:46PM HE LOOKED UP THE FILE AND RESPONDED.

12:26:50PM I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THEY HAVE A GOAL WMBE GOAL OF 30%.

12:26:54PM HE SAID THAT THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR IS VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT

12:27:00PM SORT OF THING, AND I'M SURE THAT WE WILL HOLD THEM TO THAT

12:27:07PM GOAL.

12:27:08PM HE TOLD ME.

12:27:13PM I TRUST HIM.

12:27:15PM WE'LL HOLD THEM TO THE GOAL AND GET A REPORT AS THE PROJECT

12:27:18PM PROCEEDS.

12:27:19PM I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT NEWS.

12:27:20PM I'LL BE GLAD TO SUPPORT THOSE THREE ITEMS.

12:27:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, COUNCILMAN

12:27:24PM DINGFELDER.

12:27:24PM MOTION ON THE TABLE.

12:27:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:27:26PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:27:27PM BEFORE WE BREAK, MAY I HAVE ITEMS 85 AND 86 ADDRESSED --




12:27:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO SET FOR DECEMBER 19, 2019 AT

12:27:38PM 10:30 IN THE MORNING.

12:27:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:27:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:27:43PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:27:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 86 IS JANUARY 9, YEAR 2020 AT 10:30 IN

12:27:49PM THE MORNING.

12:27:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:27:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:27:54PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:27:55PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:27:56PM 1:30?

12:28:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION FOR 1:30.

12:28:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.

12:28:03PM ALL IN FAVOR.

12:28:04PM YAY.

12:28:04PM COUNCIL IS IN RECESS.

12:28:07PM [RECESS]

1:33:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.

1:33:25PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

1:33:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

1:33:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

1:33:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

1:33:32PM >> CITRO?

1:33:33PM MIRANDA?




1:33:34PM CARLSON?

1:33:35PM VIERA?

1:33:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

1:33:37PM OKAY.

1:33:37PM I NEGLECTED TO HAVE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DO THE

1:33:40PM TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ITEMS.

1:33:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

1:33:44PM I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 76 THROUGH 84.

1:33:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:33:49PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:33:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:33:51PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:33:52PM WERE THERE ADDENDUM ITEMS AS WELL?

1:33:58PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]

1:33:58PM TWO ITEMS UNDER THE ADDENDUM.

1:34:13PM -- RESET JANUARY 23rd AT 10:30.

1:34:19PM THAT'S BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO DO THE NOTES.

1:34:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:34:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:34:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:34:28PM >>THE CLERK: YOU ALSO HAVE THE MEMO FROM MR. GUDES TO REMOVE

1:34:31PM THE SPECIAL CALLED SESSION FOR TOMORROW.

1:34:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:34:37PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:34:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?




1:34:39PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:34:42PM >>THE CLERK: ALSO HAD THE RESOLUTION PRESENTED BY MARTY FOR

1:34:45PM THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD.

1:34:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:34:52PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:34:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:34:54PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:34:55PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.

1:34:56PM NEXT, WE MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

1:35:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 87 THROUGH 92.

1:35:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO OPEN?

1:35:04PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:35:06PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

1:35:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:35:09PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:35:10PM IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS AND TESTIFY, FOR

1:35:18PM THOSE OF YOU STILL HERE, PLEASE STAND UP AND BE READY TO

1:35:22PM SWORN IN.

1:35:23PM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]

1:35:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

1:35:31PM WE BEGIN WITH ITEM 87.

1:35:32PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND

1:35:32PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

1:35:32PM 87 THROUGH 91 ARE ALL SECOND READINGS FOR CASES THAT YOU

1:35:40PM HEARD AT YOUR OCTOBER HEARINGS.




1:35:43PM ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND ARE AT THE CITY

1:35:47PM CLERK'S OFFICE.

1:35:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

1:35:53PM YOU KNOW WHAT?

1:35:54PM I HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS ONE.

1:35:58PM I AM A COUNSELOR WITH THE LAW FIRM THAT IN THE PAST AND I

1:36:08PM BELIEVE PRESENTED HAS REPRESENTED TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.

1:36:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]

1:36:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FILING IT AND WILL HAND IT OVER.

1:36:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:36:16PM ALL RIGHT.

1:36:17PM APPLICANT.

1:36:19PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.

1:36:20PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF TGH.

1:36:24PM WE HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE IN OCTOBER.

1:36:25PM ALL REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN HAVE BEEN MADE.

1:36:28PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

1:36:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

1:36:32PM APPLICANT?

1:36:32PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON

1:36:35PM THIS ITEM?

1:36:37PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE WITH A

1:36:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:36:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:36:42PM ALL RIGHT.




1:36:43PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TAKING NUMBER

1:36:46PM 87.

1:36:47PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, IN REGARD TO REZ 19-65, I MOVE THE

1:36:51PM FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN

1:36:53PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 606

1:36:56PM AND 722 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA

1:37:00PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING

1:37:03PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE,

1:37:06PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE

1:37:08PM FACILITY, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, HOSPITAL,

1:37:16PM HOTEL/MOTEL, CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY, LARGE GROUP CARE,

1:37:21PM PRINCIPAL PARKING, NURSING CONVALESCENT AND EXTENDED CARE

1:37:31PM FACILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:37:33PM >> WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:37:35PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:37:46PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT

1:37:51PM VOTE AND VIERA ABSTAINING.

1:37:56PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GARDNER, THAT IS THE MOST MIXED-USE

1:37:58PM PROJECT I THINK I EVER READ.

1:38:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE VIERA AS NO VOTING INSTEAD OF

1:38:04PM ABSTAINING.

1:38:04PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]

1:38:14PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INSTEAD OF THE ABSTAIN COLUMN --

1:38:17PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]

1:38:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




1:38:26PM NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 88.

1:38:28PM ANYONE HERE FOR 88?

1:38:35PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI.

1:38:36PM I ALMOST SAID GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

1:38:39PM GOOD AFTERNOON.

1:38:41PM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.

1:38:42PM WE HAD NO OBJECTIONS ON THIS ONE.

1:38:45PM IT WENT THROUGH ON FIRST READING.

1:38:47PM THERE WAS A COMPANION PIECE THAT WAS PART OF THE LAND USE

1:38:49PM AMENDMENT THAT PRECEDED THIS, AND YOU ADOPTED THE LAND USE

1:38:52PM AMENDMENT AT YOUR LAST COUNCIL HEARING.

1:38:55PM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.

1:38:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

1:38:59PM OKAY.

1:39:02PM SEEING NONE, IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO PUBLICLY

1:39:04PM COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 88?

1:39:05PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

1:39:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO CLOSE.

1:39:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:39:10PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:39:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:39:12PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:39:13PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU MIND, SIR, READING ITEM 88?

1:39:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-75, ORDINANCE BEING

1:39:21PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.




1:39:23PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

1:39:25PM 7702 SOUTH MASCOTTE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND

1:39:29PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

1:39:31PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD

1:39:36PM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED);

1:39:39PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:39:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY

1:39:43PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:39:44PM RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:39:49PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT

1:39:52PM VOTE.

1:39:54PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

1:39:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, WE MOVE TO ITEM 89.

1:40:01PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, MORRIS MASSEY, 101 EAST KENNEDY

1:40:04PM BOULEVARD HERE IN TAMPA.

1:40:06PM AGAIN, THIS WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

1:40:08PM WE'VE MADE THE REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AND WE ASK YOUR

1:40:11PM APPROVAL ON SECOND READING.

1:40:12PM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

1:40:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

1:40:15PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

1:40:16PM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 89?

1:40:20PM IF SO, COME FORWARD.

1:40:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.

1:40:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.




1:40:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:40:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:40:26PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:40:26PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND TAKING ITEM 89?

1:40:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

1:40:33PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY

1:40:36PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 711 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IN

1:40:39PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED

1:40:42PM IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD

1:40:45PM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BANK WITH A DRIVE-IN AND

1:40:48PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,

1:40:52PM BANK WITH DRIVE-IN, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL

1:40:57PM OFFICE, CLINIC); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:41:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND

1:41:04PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:41:05PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:41:08PM >>THE CLERK: [NO MICROPHONE] -- MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON

1:41:10PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

1:41:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 90.

1:41:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MISSED IT.

1:41:26PM WE MOVED ON.

1:41:27PM >> OKAY, GOOD.

1:41:28PM DID I WIN.

1:41:29PM CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER, BRICKLEMYER LAW GROUP, HERE FOR THE

1:41:32PM APPLICANT.




1:41:33PM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

1:41:33PM WE MADE OUR CHANGES.

1:41:35PM APPRECIATE STAFF.

1:41:36PM THANKS.

1:41:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

1:41:38PM OKAY.

1:41:39PM THERE BEING NONE, IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO

1:41:41PM COMMENT ON ITEM 90?

1:41:42PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

1:41:44PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:41:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:41:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:41:48PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:41:49PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU MIND TAKING 90?

1:41:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 19-80, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING

1:41:58PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING, ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING

1:42:01PM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 624 SOUTH MacDILL

1:42:05PM AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

1:42:08PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS

1:42:11PM CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) AND RM-24 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY)

1:42:16PM TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND

1:42:19PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:42:22PM AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND INCLUDING

1:42:26PM WAIVERS AND SITE PLAN CHANGES.

1:42:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.




1:42:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

1:42:34PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BRICKLEMYER, NUMBER 90 WAS THE TREE,

1:42:42PM RIGHT?

1:42:42PM >> NO TREE.

1:42:43PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WASN'T THE TREE.

1:42:44PM >> NUMBER 90 IS THE ONE WITH NO TREE.

1:42:47PM I WAS VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THERE WAS NO TREE.

1:42:49PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED.

1:42:51PM I THOUGHT THE ADDRESS WAS WRONG.

1:42:52PM >> NO, THIS IS ON MacDILL.

1:42:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY MOTION STILL STANDS.

1:43:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

1:43:02PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:43:04PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:43:09PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT

1:43:12PM VOTE.

1:43:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 91.

1:43:20PM >> HELLO.

1:43:21PM THIS IS MIRIAM WEBER.

1:43:23PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

1:43:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

1:43:25PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 91?

1:43:28PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

1:43:32PM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 91?

1:43:38PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANTED TO TELL, MS. WEBER, IS IT?




1:43:42PM THAT IS THE MOST WELL BEHAVED TWO-YEAR-OLD.

1:43:45PM SHE SAT PATIENTLY WITHOUT ONE FUSS THE WHOLE MORNING.

1:43:48PM WE SEE HER FEET IN RESPONSE.

1:43:53PM [ LAUGHTER ]

1:43:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE WITH THAT.

1:43:55PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

1:43:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:43:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:44:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:44:01PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:44:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU MIND TAKING 91?

1:44:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE SU 2-19-08, MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING

1:44:10PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

1:44:13PM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2); APPROVING A SCHOOL IN

1:44:21PM AN RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) ZONING DISTRICT IN THE

1:44:25PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 6716 SOUTH TRASK STREET, IN THE CITY OF

1:44:28PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1

1:44:32PM HEREOF; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:44:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:44:35PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:44:36PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:44:43PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT

1:44:46PM VOTE.

1:44:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 92.

1:44:51PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT




1:44:53PM COORDINATION.

1:44:54PM THIS IS THE VACATING FOR THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.

1:44:56PM THE AGENT COULD NOT RETURN, PRIOR COMMITMENT.

1:45:00PM I SAID I WOULD BE HERE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.

1:45:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

1:45:05PM ANY QUESTIONS?

1:45:05PM OKAY.

1:45:07PM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 92?

1:45:12PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

1:45:13PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:45:15PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:45:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:45:18PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:45:19PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU MIND TAKING ITEM 92?

1:45:23PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO NOT.

1:45:26PM IT APPEARS I VOTED FOR IT BEFORE.

1:45:28PM I DO RECALL, JUST EDITORIALLY, TYPICALLY I DON'T LIKE

1:45:30PM VACATING ALLEYS, BUT IN THIS CASE, THIS WAS OVER BY THE

1:45:35PM AIRPORT.

1:45:35PM IT WAS VERY INDUSTRIAL AND THAT SORT OF THING AND MADE A LOT

1:45:38PM OF SENSE.

1:45:39PM I WILL MOVE FILE VAC 19-21, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

1:45:46PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,

1:45:49PM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING PORTIONS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN

1:45:52PM AS WEST SOUTH AVENUE, WEST OSBORNE AVENUE AND NORTH RENELLIE




1:45:57PM DRIVE IN REPLAT OF DREW PARK, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF

1:46:00PM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE

1:46:02PM FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN

1:46:05PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND

1:46:07PM RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING

1:46:10PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

1:46:11PM I CORRECT MYSELF.

1:46:11PM IT IS NOT VACATING ALLEYS.

1:46:13PM IT'S VACATING STREETS.

1:46:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:46:18PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:46:20PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:46:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON -- [INAUDIBLE]

1:46:33PM [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]

1:46:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS THE FINAL ONE FOR THE LAND USE

1:46:36PM HEARINGS.

1:46:37PM LET ME SEE OVER HERE IN THE STAFF REPORTS, I WANTED TO

1:46:42PM MOTION, MR. SHELBY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.

1:46:45PM I HAD A VERY BUSY WEEK FOR ITEM 101, JUST TO HAVE THAT HELD

1:46:53PM IN NEXT WEEK'S TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

1:46:56PM TWO WEEKS.

1:46:58PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]

1:46:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 21st.

1:47:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.

1:47:02PM SOUNDS GOOD.




1:47:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE TAKE THE

1:47:05PM OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT I'LL WORK WITH YOU

1:47:07PM ON.

1:47:08PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

1:47:10PM I'LL CERTAINLY TAKE IT FROM YOU UNLESS YOU WANT TO HAVE IT

1:47:12PM IN YOUR NAME THAT YOU'LL COME BACK.

1:47:17PM I KNOW YOU USUALLY DO.

1:47:18PM BUT THE OTHER THING IS TO CORRECT IT FROM BEING ENCOURAGED.

1:47:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: DISCOURAGING, NOT ENCOURAGING.

1:47:26PM THANK YOU.

1:47:26PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:47:28PM WHO WAS THAT SECONDED BY?

1:47:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK I SECONDED YOUR MOTION.

1:47:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT.

1:47:35PM I'LL HAND OVER THE GAVEL.

1:47:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

1:47:37PM WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:47:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:47:40PM MOTION PASSES.

1:47:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS RELATING TO ITEM 101.

1:47:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

1:47:46PM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS.

1:47:48PM SO LET'S GO TO MOTIONS.

1:47:50PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:47:52PM I'M SORRY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, SOMETHING I'M -- WE'RE GOING




1:47:55PM TO BE KEEPING AN EYE ON, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE BIT BY IT

1:47:59PM TODAY, WHENEVER WE HAVE STAFF REPORTS, TO SPECIFY, IF AT THE

1:48:03PM TIME OF MAKING THE MOTION, IF YOU ALL WANT STAFF TO BE

1:48:08PM COMING TO SPEAK FOR IT.

1:48:10PM TODAY WE HAD AN ABUNDANCE OF THEM AND HAD TO MOVE THROUGH

1:48:13PM THEM FAST.

1:48:14PM I USUALLY LIKE TO GIVE MORE TIME TO THEM, MORE ROBUST

1:48:18PM DISCUSSION.

1:48:18PM BUT GIVEN THE TRAFFIC JAM WE HAD TODAY, THAT CAN BE EASILY

1:48:21PM PREVENTED BY DOING THAT.

1:48:22PM JUST FROM HERE ON OUT.

1:48:24PM GO AHEAD, SIR.

1:48:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE KEY THERE IS WE JUST SAY YOU WANT

1:48:27PM THEM TO APPEAR OR YOU WANT A WRITTEN REPORT OR BOTH, I

1:48:30PM GUESS.

1:48:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, EXACTLY.

1:48:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST TO INTERJECT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT

1:48:37PM THIS A LITTLE BIT AT OUR AGENDA REVIEW.

1:48:39PM I THINK WHAT'S HELPFUL IS CHIEF BENNETT IS NOW REQUIRING ALL

1:48:42PM THE STAFF TO GET THEIR STAFF REPORTS IN THE TUESDAY PRIOR TO

1:48:49PM THE FOLLOWING WEEK'S HEARING AND THEN WE GIVE THEM TO THE

1:48:52PM CLERK I BELIEVE BY THURSDAY.

1:48:53PM THE POINT BEING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE REPORT -- THE

1:48:56PM WRITTEN REPORTS, ALL THE STAFF IS TRYING TO GET THE WRITTEN

1:48:59PM REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS A WEEK IN ADVANCE.




1:49:03PM AND SO WITH THE IDEA BEING THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU

1:49:06PM CAN CALL US.

1:49:08PM YOU CAN REACH OUT.

1:49:09PM YOU CAN ASK PEOPLE TO MEET WITH YOU.

1:49:11PM THEN IF YOU STILL NEED SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY APPEAR -- THE

1:49:15PM HOPE IS THAT WE CAN -- SORT OF THE DEFAULT IS A WRITTEN

1:49:19PM REPORT WITH OBVIOUS EXCEPTIONS WHEN IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE

1:49:23PM SOMEONE AT THE PODIUM.

1:49:25PM AGAIN, THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTIVATION BEHIND GETTING THE

1:49:28PM REPORTS TO YOU EARLIER THAN THE STAFF REPORTS USED TO GET TO

1:49:31PM COUNCIL IN THE PAST.

1:49:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

1:49:35PM COUNCIL CARLSON.

1:49:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ON THAT POINT, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT

1:49:39PM A NUMBER OF THEM?

1:49:40PM I KNOW SEVERAL WERE MINE SO PARTLY MY FAULT.

1:49:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S EXACTLY -- I ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO

1:49:47PM THAT.

1:49:48PM THEN WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT MERELY HAVING REPORTS,

1:49:51PM RIGHT, I WITHDREW THAT, BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO START DOING IS

1:49:54PM HAVING FIVE REPORTS THAT REQUIRE LIVE APPEARANCES PER

1:49:59PM MEETING SO THAT WE CAN LIMIT THAT.

1:50:00PM IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPELLING, WE CAN DO SIX.

1:50:03PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

1:50:04PM PRETTY MUCH HAVING FIVE SO WE CAN AVOID WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.




1:50:08PM THE DELAY I THINK TO THE PUBLIC, AND THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC

1:50:13PM COMMENT AS WELL AS LAND DEVELOPMENT, EVERYDAY FOLKS WAITING

1:50:17PM FOR THAT AND HAD TO WAIT A LONG TIME, INCLUDING PAST LUNCH,

1:50:20PM WAS RELATIVELY MODEST, BUT THE REAL ISSUE THAT SUFFERED I

1:50:23PM THINK WAS JUST A DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUES.

1:50:26PM BECAUSE I HAD TO HURRY UP EVERYBODY.

1:50:30PM YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS.

1:50:31PM YEAH, SO WE'LL DO THAT.

1:50:32PM GO AHEAD, SIR.

1:50:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST NOT TO BELABOR THAT TOO MUCH, BUT,

1:50:38PM FRANKLY, I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD JUST TODAY,

1:50:43PM FOR EXAMPLE, THAT CIRCLED AROUND THE VARIOUS STAFF REPORTS

1:50:46PM ARE VERY HELPFUL.

1:50:47PM AND THEY WOULDN'T BE MUCH OF A DISCUSSION IF THE STAFF

1:50:50PM PERSON WASN'T THERE.

1:50:51PM ANYWAY, I GUESS WE CAN CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN

1:50:56PM MR. BENNETT RETURNS.

1:50:58PM OKAY.

1:51:00PM MOTIONS.

1:51:01PM SO MS. DUNCAN APPEARED IN FRONT OF US TO TALK ABOUT BRICK

1:51:07PM STREETS, AND SHE GAVE US THE WRITTEN REPORT AS WELL.

1:51:10PM SHE ALSO INDICATED THAT IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE BECAUSE THEY

1:51:17PM REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN VERY FAR IN TERMS OF THE PIPES PROJECT

1:51:22PM BECAUSE COUNCIL JUST APPROVED IT A MONTH OR TWO AGO.

1:51:25PM WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MS. DUNCAN COME BACK A YEAR




1:51:32PM FROM NOW -- AND I HAVE NO DATE.

1:51:36PM I'LL JUST SAY THE FIRST REGULAR AGENDA MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

1:51:38PM AND APPEAR AND CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT BRICK STREETS,

1:51:44PM ASPHALT, ET CETERA, AS IT WAS LAID OUT IN HER MEMO AND SEE

1:51:48PM IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE.

1:51:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:51:52PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:51:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:51:54PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:51:56PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THE DRONES, AND YOU ALL

1:52:00PM HEARD ME MENTION THIS, I'D LIKE TPD TO COME BACK -- WELL,

1:52:06PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPEAR.

1:52:08PM IT CAN BE A WRITTEN REPORT TO GIVE US A WRITTEN REPORT

1:52:11PM SUMMARIZING THE USE OF THE DRONES THAT WERE JUST PURCHASED

1:52:16PM IN A VERY CURSORY WAY, BUT JUST SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO

1:52:20PM MONITOR HOW THEY ARE USED AND TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE USED

1:52:26PM APPROPRIATELY UNDER THE STATE STATUTE.

1:52:28PM THAT WOULD BE, LET'S SAY, THE FIRST MEETING -- FIRST REGULAR

1:52:33PM MEETING IN DECEMBER OF 2020.

1:52:40PM OH, YES, AND ALSO -- DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT?

1:52:46PM ALSO, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT SOME PUBLIC INFORMATION GET OUT

1:52:52PM TO THE COMMUNITY CURRENTLY, LIKE NOW, AND THIS WOULD JUST BE

1:53:01PM -- I GUESS WE WOULD URGE THE ADMINISTRATION, CAN'T MAKE

1:53:04PM THEM, BUT URGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO USE THE PIO SYSTEM AND

1:53:09PM GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE DRONE --




1:53:12PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASING THE DRONES AND THIS IS

1:53:15PM THE PURPOSE THAT WE ARE USING THE DRONES, AND THIS IS NOT

1:53:19PM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE DRONES FOR.

1:53:22PM LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM FOR AND THIS

1:53:24PM ISN'T WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM FOR.

1:53:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH

1:53:29PM A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:53:31PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:53:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:53:34PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:53:35PM ANYTHING ELSE?

1:53:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER THING, IN MY ABSENCE -- WHAT

1:53:41PM WAS IT, CHARLIE, YOU USED TO SAY WHEN YOU WERE OUT FOR FOUR

1:53:44PM YEARS?

1:53:44PM YOU USED TO SAY YOU WERE OUT IN THE WILDERNESS.

1:53:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I FORGET.

1:53:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, WHEN I WAS OUT IN THE WILDERNESS

1:53:50PM FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD

1:53:56PM ANOTHER MAYOR IORIO, WHO I SERVED UNDER, SEVERAL OTHERS

1:54:00PM SERVED UNDER, AT LEAST CHARLIE, HONOR HER IN A BIG WAY.

1:54:04PM AND I KEPT THINKING THAT 40th STREET WAS HER SIGNATURE

1:54:10PM PROJECT.

1:54:11PM SHE WORKED SO HARD ON 40th STREET FOR YEARS AND YEARS WITH

1:54:13PM THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, AND TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER IN

1:54:16PM TERMS OF REALLY MAKING THAT A VERY, VERY NICE BOULEVARD.




1:54:20PM NOW, IT CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL IN TERMS OF ROUNDABOUTS AND

1:54:23PM THAT SORT OF THING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY BUILT

1:54:25PM THAT BRIDGE.

1:54:26PM THAT WAS A NEW BRIDGE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

1:54:28PM AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE -- SHE GOT A GARAGE NAMED AFTER

1:54:34PM HER, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS VERY EXCITING.

1:54:38PM I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO NAME 40th STREET ALL

1:54:41PM OR PART OF 40th STREET AFTER MAYOR PAM IORIO.

1:54:46PM I KNOW THAT MIGHT NOT BE OUR PURVIEW, BUT MY MOTION WOULD BE

1:54:51PM TO LOOK INTO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH

1:54:57PM MAYOR CASTOR AND WHATEVER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW IS

1:55:00PM NECESSARY.

1:55:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT CONSIDERING I

1:55:07PM BELIEVE 40th STREET WAS HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OVERALL,

1:55:10PM WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE CITY'S HISTORY.

1:55:12PM SO, OF COURSE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY MERIT IT.

1:55:14PM I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.

1:55:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:55:18PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

1:55:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:55:21PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:55:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S IT TODAY.

1:55:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

1:55:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

1:55:26PM IN REFERENCE TO THE EARLIER COMMENTS ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT,




1:55:33PM STAFF REPORTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUBLIC SERVANTS.

1:55:37PM I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE'VE GONE LONG AND PEOPLE HAVE

1:55:39PM CRITICIZED US FOR GOING LONG, FOR ME, I DON'T CARE ABOUT

1:55:43PM GOING LONG.

1:55:44PM I CARE ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT

1:55:47PM TO KNOW AND THEY ARE TAXPAYERS.

1:55:49PM WE'RE PAID BY THE TAXPAYERS TO DO A JOB.

1:55:55PM IN REFERENCE TO STAFF HAVING TO WAIT, AND I HEARD THE

1:55:59PM COMMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

1:56:01PM I SYMPATHIZE THAT STAFF HAS TO SIT AROUND SOMETIMES.

1:56:06PM I DO.

1:56:06PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE PAID TO BE A CITY

1:56:11PM EMPLOYEE, AND WE'RE PAID TO HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY

1:56:14PM AND TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

1:56:16PM I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE FEELS.

1:56:18PM I CAN ONLY TELL YOU HOW I FEEL AND HOW I KNOW THE CITIZENS

1:56:22PM FEEL.

1:56:22PM I MUST LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT I'M ON THEIR SIDE WHEN WE

1:56:27PM TALK ABOUT THEM NOT HAVING THEIR OPPORTUNITY AND HAVING TO

1:56:29PM WAIT FOR THEIR OPPORTUNITY.

1:56:30PM IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT,

1:56:33PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE.

1:56:35PM STAFF REPORTS ARE VERY CRITICAL.

1:56:38PM WE HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THEM.

1:56:40PM I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO LIMIT THEM BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, A




1:56:44PM LOT OF TIMES IT'S SOMETHING I MAY MISS OR SOMEBODY MAY MISS

1:56:48PM AND THEN IT'S BROUGHT OUT DURING DISCUSSION.

1:56:50PM NOW WE'RE CHANGING SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GO ONE

1:56:53PM ROAD AND NOW WE'RE DOWN ANOTHER ROAD.

1:56:55PM WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SAYING WE'LL CHANGE ALL THE

1:56:58PM PROCESS TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE ON CERTAIN ISSUES.

1:57:00PM I WANT US TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE -- OUR CHARTER

1:57:04PM SAYS THAT STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO APPEAR BEFORE US WHEN

1:57:08PM REQUESTED FOR INFORMATION.

1:57:09PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.

1:57:14PM IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO US THAT

1:57:16PM STAFF COMES FORTH AND GIVES US THE INFORMATION.

1:57:19PM IF IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET IT OUT, IT JUST TAKES A WHILE TO

1:57:22PM GET IT OUT.

1:57:23PM BUT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL.

1:57:24PM WE'RE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

1:57:27PM AND NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS OR OVER THE TV OR WHATEVER, IT

1:57:29PM IS WHAT IT IS.

1:57:29PM THIS IS OUR HOUSE, AND WE HAVE TO WORK OUR HOUSE.

1:57:33PM WE CAN'T BE DICTATED TO BY OTHER PEOPLE SAYING WE SHOULD DO

1:57:35PM THIS, WE SHOULD DO THAT.

1:57:36PM WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO

1:57:38PM FOR THE PEOPLE.

1:57:39PM I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

1:57:40PM THAT IS MY POSITION ON THAT.




1:57:42PM IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET

1:57:45PM THE JOB DONE.

1:57:45PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE HERE TO

1:57:48PM SERVE THEM.

1:57:49PM ON THAT NOTE, MR. CHAIRMAN --

1:57:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, WERE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION

1:57:54PM RELATED TO THAT?

1:57:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, NO.

1:57:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: DID ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT OR

1:58:00PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?

1:58:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE COMMENTS LIKE I'M FREE UNTIL

1:58:06PM 7:00.

1:58:07PM I HAVE NOTHING UNTIL 9:00 A.M.

1:58:10PM I'M TRY TO BE FUNNY AND I'M NOT REALLY FUNNY.

1:58:13PM THE POINT I'M MAKING, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO GET THROUGH

1:58:18PM THE AGENDA, I GOT ELECTED, WE GOT ELECTED.

1:58:21PM ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAYS, TO DO THE WORK

1:58:25PM OF THE PEOPLE HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES.

1:58:27PM THAT'S IT.

1:58:28PM WHEN WE CAMPAIGN, WE SAY WE'LL BE YOUR VOICE, WE'LL LISTEN,

1:58:31PM WE'LL THIS AND THAT.

1:58:33PM IF WE'RE HERE TWO HOURS PER MEETING OR 12 HOURS PER MEETING,

1:58:36PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.

1:58:37PM I'M HAPPY TO DO MY JOB IN SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

1:58:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS LISTEN




1:58:45PM TO THE PUBLIC AND THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO

1:58:47PM THAT.

1:58:48PM IF FOLKS COME HERE, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO LISTEN TO THEM.

1:58:51PM THE ARGUMENTS THAT THE FOLKS MADE THIS MORNING ARE

1:58:54PM LEGITIMATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE JOBS, AND WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME

1:58:58PM WHEN THEY SHOULD COME DOWN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I DON'T EVEN

1:59:01PM KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE.

1:59:04PM YOU HAVE A HARD JOB JUGGLING ALL THESE THINGS, I WISH WE

1:59:08PM COULD HAVE A TIME CERTAIN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MAYBE IN

1:59:11PM ADDITION TO A TIME CERTAIN FOR STAFF.

1:59:15PM YOU ALL MAY KNOW BETTER THAN I, EVEN IF -- TIME CERTAIN 9:30

1:59:19PM TILL 10.

1:59:21PM IF WE HAVE TOO MANY, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AFTER STAFF

1:59:24PM REPORTS, BUT AT LEAST HAVE A TIME WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN

1:59:26PM COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND THE WHOLE

1:59:29PM DAY.

1:59:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

1:59:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, MY OPINION, THE

1:59:36PM STATEMENTS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, FROM THE PUBLIC, MY

1:59:41PM OPINION, IT SHOULD COME FIRST.

1:59:44PM IF WE ARE TO LISTEN AND HAVE IT TIME SENSITIVE FOR NOT ONLY

1:59:49PM THEM BUT FOR STAFF, WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA

1:59:53PM AFTER THE INVOCATION, AFTER THE PLEDGE, AFTER ROLL CALL, GO

1:59:57PM RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

1:59:58PM THAT WAY THEY HAVE THEIR SET TIME.




2:00:01PM THAT WAY WE CAN DO STAFF AFTER THAT, AFTER OUR CELEBRATION

2:00:06PM OF OTHER THINGS.

2:00:08PM THAT IS JUST MY OPINION AND I LAY IT OUT THERE ON OUR DAIS.

2:00:14PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP.

2:00:16PM YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND HAVING PRACTICED IN

2:00:19PM FRONT OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PASCO COUNTY AND OTHER

2:00:22PM CITIES, I'VE SEEN HOW THEY HANDLE THEIR AGENDA.

2:00:25PM AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT OF OURS.

2:00:29PM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF

2:00:35PM GIVING THE PUBLIC SOME CERTAINTY AS TO WHEN THEY CAN BE

2:00:38PM HEARD, THE PEOPLE HERE FOR SECOND READING, SOME CERTAINTY AS

2:00:42PM TO WHEN -- AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.

2:00:44PM AGAIN, IT'S BEING DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

2:00:47PM WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY.

2:00:48PM I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR,

2:00:51PM WHOEVER IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEE IF WE CAN -- AND MARTY,

2:00:55PM TO SEE IF WE CAN REORGANIZE OUR AGENDA TO MAKE IT MORE

2:00:59PM SENSITIVE TO ALL THOSE THINGS.

2:01:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE IN THE SENSE OF OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC'S

2:01:05PM COMMENT SHOULD BE FIRST.

2:01:06PM WHAT WE HAD TODAY IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I

2:01:08PM FRANKLY HANDLED TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND IT'S NOT AN

2:01:13PM EASY POSITION, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE A

2:01:16PM CRACK AT IT, TRUST ME, OVER THE YEARS, IS TRYING TO MAKE

2:01:20PM SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS HEARD.




2:01:21PM IT'S JUST THAT TODAY, YESTERDAY -- OR, I GUESS, IT WAS TWO

2:01:26PM DAYS IN THE AGENDA REVIEW, WE HAD ASKED IF EVERYBODY WANTED

2:01:29PM STAFF TO BE HERE LIVE AND EVERYBODY SAID YES.

2:01:32PM THAT CREATED A HECK OF A TRAFFIC JAM FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY.

2:01:36PM I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD

2:01:40PM KAREN CLAY.

2:01:41PM WE HAD TAMPA BAY WATER.

2:01:42PM WE COULD IN THE FUTURE HAVE THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, THOSE

2:01:45PM KIND OF PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE NON-CEREMONIAL.

2:01:48PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD MITIGATE IT.

2:01:50PM ACTUALLY, TODAY WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE REALLY HAD THAT

2:01:54PM KIND OF A TRAFFIC JAM, AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF, NUMBER ONE,

2:01:57PM THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS WHICH WE CAN DEAL

2:02:00PM WITH THAT AS WELL.

2:02:03PM ANOTHER ISSUE AS WELL, PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE FOR LAND USE

2:02:07PM HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PAYING

2:02:10PM ATTORNEYS THAT CHARGE A LOT BY THE HOUR.

2:02:12PM YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO SE, THEY ARE NOT HERE

2:02:15PM WITH ATTORNEYS AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME.

2:02:18PM THERE'S A LOT OF COURTESY TO BE DONE IN THAT REGARD.

2:02:21PM LET'S WORK ON SOMETHING, MS. ZELMAN, TO FASHION SOMETHING SO

2:02:24PM THAT THERE'S MORE FORESEEABILITY.

2:02:28PM IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT BEHOOVES US.

2:02:30PM I AGREE WITH THAT 100%.

2:02:32PM TODAY WAS JUST A TERRIBLE TRAFFIC JAM.




2:02:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF WE HAVE IT AT 10:30, MAYBE MOVE IT TO

2:02:41PM 11, STAFF REPORTS, BY THE WAY, TIME IT GETS THERE.

2:02:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD POINT BECAUSE 10:00 IS PROBABLY A PANT

2:02:47PM SIZE TOO SMALL FOR OUR WASTE.

2:02:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU'RE

2:02:54PM WORKING WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF, STAFF REPORTS AT 10:00.

2:02:58PM COUNCIL HAS ITS ACTUAL ORDER OF BUSINESS CODIFIED IN YOUR

2:03:02PM RULES OF PROCEDURE.

2:03:03PM AS PART OF THAT, YOU DIRECT PLANNING, WHEN THEY SET THESE

2:03:11PM HEARINGS, ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES, AND THESE HAVE FLUCTUATED

2:03:14PM OVER TIME.

2:03:15PM COUNCIL, THESE ARE NOT MY RULES.

2:03:17PM THESE ARE NOT MS. ZELMAN'S RULES, ATTORNEY'S RULES, STAFF

2:03:22PM RULES.

2:03:22PM THESE ARE YOUR RULES.

2:03:23PM YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS IS WHAT IS BEST FOR COUNCIL BASED ON

2:03:26PM YOUR DISCUSSION.

2:03:27PM RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH THE STAFF REPORT SET FOR A TIME

2:03:29PM CERTAIN, IT'S NOT IN YOUR RULES RIGHT NOW.

2:03:31PM ULTIMATELY IF IT WORKS OR HOWEVER YOU ULTIMATELY WANT TO DO

2:03:34PM THAT, THE DIRECTION WOULD BE FOR ME TO AMEND YOUR RULES.

2:03:37PM YOUR STAFF REPORTS ARE NOT IN THE RULES, BUT WHAT ARE IN THE

2:03:41PM RULES ARE FIRST -- SECOND READINGS ARE SET FOR 9:30.

2:03:47PM THAT'S WHAT YOUR PETITIONERS AND PUBLIC EXPECT THAT, AND

2:03:49PM YOUR SECOND READS ARE 9:30 AND YOUR FIRST READS ARE SET FOR




2:03:55PM 10:30.

2:03:56PM THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE -- RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IS

2:03:59PM YOUR 10:00.

2:04:00PM I COUNTED BY MY BEST NUMBER, YOU HAD 15 PRESENTATIONS BY

2:04:04PM STAFF TODAY BASED ON WHAT WAS ALSO REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT

2:04:09PM DOCKET.

2:04:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF THINGS.

2:04:13PM ONE, I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH MY TWO GENTLEMEN TO THE LEFT IS

2:04:19PM THAT WE'RE ALL HERE.

2:04:23PM WE'VE BEEN ELECTED TO BE HERE.

2:04:27PM THURSDAY IS THE DAY AND WHATEVER IT TAKES IS WHATEVER IT

2:04:31PM TAKES.

2:04:31PM WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE HERE UNTIL 5 OR 12 OR WHATEVER, THERE'S

2:04:35PM NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT NOON.

2:04:38PM SOMETIMES IT WORKS.

2:04:38PM SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

2:04:39PM MR. CHAIRMAN I WOULDN'T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF.

2:04:42PM IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE WERE HERE 9 TILL 12:30.

2:04:46PM TOOK AN HOUR LUNCH AND THEN WE FINISHED WITH AN ADDITIONAL

2:04:49PM HALF HOUR AFTER LUNCH.

2:04:51PM FRANKLY, WITH A VERY FULL AGENDA, WITH LOTS OF STAFF

2:04:54PM REPORTS, WITH A COUPLE OF EXTERNAL ITEMS, I THINK WE DID

2:05:00PM VERY WELL.

2:05:01PM I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, ACTUALLY, I'LL COMPLIMENT YOU ON

2:05:05PM ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T SEE ANY FAULT -- AND I KNOW I




2:05:09PM CAN BE LONG-WINDED -- BUT I DON'T SEE ANY FAULT IN YOU

2:05:12PM REMINDING US PERIODICALLY, OKAY, ARE WE ALMOST DONE?

2:05:17PM WE NEED TO KEEP IT TIGHT.

2:05:19PM BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

2:05:20PM I THOUGHT YOU DID THAT ACTUALLY PRETTY EFFECTIVELY TODAY.

2:05:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

2:05:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH YOU DOING

2:05:24PM THAT.

2:05:25PM I MIGHT NOT ALWAYS LISTEN.

2:05:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE MY JOB HERE IS TO DEAL

2:05:31PM WITH PROCEDURE, SUBSTANCE.

2:05:32PM WE ARE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS DULY ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF OUR

2:05:35PM DISTRICT TO THE CITY.

2:05:36PM IF MEMBERS WANT TO BRING FORTH AN ITEM ON WHATEVER ISSUE IT

2:05:40PM MAY BE, THAT IS OF NO -- I CAN HAVE NO ENTANGLEMENTS WITH

2:05:44PM THAT WHATSOEVER.

2:05:45PM WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO BRING, THAT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL

2:05:48PM MEMBERS WHO ARE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.

2:05:50PM I NEVER GET IN THE WAY OF THAT.

2:05:52PM IT'S WHENEVER WE TRY TO FIT STUFF IN.

2:05:55PM I THINK THERE ARE SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES WE CAN MAKE THAT

2:05:59PM CAN BUILD ON THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY.

2:06:03PM WITH THE TIME CERTAIN, THIS HAS REALLY BEEN THE FIRST TIME

2:06:06PM WHEN WE HAD A DELAY OF 30, 40 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT,

2:06:09PM WHICH IS THE CORE OF REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY I THINK FOR




2:06:13PM US.

2:06:13PM BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE VERY

2:06:17PM SIMPLY, IN MY OPINION.

2:06:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON HOW YOU

2:06:23PM HANDLED THE PUBLIC AND YOUR BRAVERY IN WALKING INTO THE

2:06:26PM OTHER ROOM.

2:06:27PM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO VENT

2:06:30PM AND DISCUSS THEIR ISSUES.

2:06:31PM WHEN I WALKED BY THERE, I SAW THAT THEY SEEMED TO BE HAPPY.

2:06:35PM THEY WERE FRUSTRATED THEY COULDN'T SPEAK, BUT THEY WERE

2:06:37PM HAPPY THAT YOU AT LEAST MET WITH THEM.

2:06:39PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

2:06:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALWAYS THE KEY WHICH IS PEOPLE WANT TO

2:06:42PM BE HEARD.

2:06:43PM A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

2:06:45PM THE MAIN THING IS, PEOPLE WANT TO FEEL RESPECT.

2:06:48PM WHEN THEY SEE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN PERCEPTION AND

2:06:53PM REALITY DISRESPECTING THEM, WHICH IS WHY I MET WITH THAT

2:06:57PM NICE YOUNG WOMAN AND OTHER PEOPLE, BECAUSE FROM UP HERE, THE

2:07:00PM PERCEPTION MAY BE THAT I'M SITTING ON A THRONE.

2:07:03PM NO.

2:07:05PM I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES.

2:07:06PM I SHARE SOME OF HER FRUSTRATIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE

2:07:09PM RESPECT.

2:07:10PM WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THAT.




2:07:11PM WE HAVE CRA NEXT WEEK, BUT THE WEEK AFTER THAT, HOPEFULLY WE

2:07:14PM CAN MAKE SOME INCREMENTAL CHANGES FOR THAT, IN THE EVENT

2:07:17PM THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP AGAIN, WHICH I THINK IS

2:07:20PM RELATIVELY RARE.

2:07:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE - MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- I'D LIKE

2:07:28PM TO MAKE A MOTION.

2:07:30PM THE CHIEF JUDGE, I WENT TO THE SAFE AND SOUND GROUP.

2:07:35PM THEY HAD THEIR ANNUAL MEETING WITH ALL THEIR REPRESENTATIVES

2:07:38PM THERE, AND THEY ASKED THAT AT SOME POINT THEY COME AND MAKE

2:07:42PM A PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO ALL THEY ARE DOING IN

2:07:46PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH OUR JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM.

2:07:47PM AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE THE

2:07:50PM 13th JUDICIAL COURT APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL TO MAKE A

2:07:53PM PRESENTATION REGARDING JUVENILE JUSTICE DIVERSION PROGRAMS.

2:07:55PM I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER 5th

2:07:57PM REGULAR SESSION COUNCIL.

2:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

2:08:00PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

2:08:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:08:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MAKER OF THE

2:08:07PM MOTION, DID YOU WANT TO ASSOCIATE A PERIOD OF TIME OF LENGTH

2:08:11PM FOR THAT PRESENTATION?

2:08:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

2:08:14PM HOW LONG ARE YOU LOOKING AT?

2:08:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 10, 15 MINUTES.




2:08:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE DO 10 MINUTES FOR THE

2:08:19PM PRESENTATION, 5 MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION?

2:08:21PM OKAY.

2:08:22PM GOOD.

2:08:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?

2:08:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

2:08:24PM SIR, I WOULD ALSO --

2:08:36PM WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR CEMETERIES IN HILLSBOROUGH

2:08:38PM COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

2:08:40PM AND I ASKED FOR A SPECIAL MEETING BACK ON THE 24th, BUT

2:08:44PM SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME.

2:08:46PM I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE PREVIOUS MOTION I MADE ON 10/24/19

2:08:51PM REGARDING SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SET FOR 11/8 AT ROBLES PARK

2:08:54PM TO BE POSTPONED AND THE NEED FOR IT TO BE REEXAMINED UNTIL

2:09:00PM AFTER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY UPDATES REPORT ON THE MATTER ON

2:09:04PM ZION CEMETERY IS HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 5th,

2:09:08PM 2019, IN OUR REGULAR SESSION.

2:09:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: WAS THAT FOR A REPORT ON THAT DAY?

2:09:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE DUE TO COME ON DECEMBER 5th FOR

2:09:16PM A FULL REPORT.

2:09:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THERE ANY WAY, COUNCILMAN -- HAVE YOU

2:09:19PM ALREADY COORDINATED THAT?

2:09:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ALREADY BY MOTION OF COUNCIL.

2:09:23PM ON YOUR AGENDA.

2:09:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.




2:09:25PM I SEE IT THERE.

2:09:27PM EXCUSE ME.

2:09:28PM MY BAD.

2:09:28PM WAS THAT A MOTION?

2:09:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

2:09:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION WAS TO REMOVE THE ZION CEMETERY

2:09:33PM FOR TOMORROW AND YOU'LL HAVE IT RESCHEDULED.

2:09:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.

2:09:37PM THE SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING, CORRECT.

2:09:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

2:09:40PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:09:42PM ANY IN FAVOR?

2:09:43PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:09:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE LAST APPEAL, GENTLEMEN, AS YOU KNOW, A

2:09:47PM LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL

2:09:50PM ACTUAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTINGS.

2:09:53PM A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE CALLED AND BEEN TELLING ME

2:09:56PM ABOUT THIS SPECIAL EVENT THAT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE.

2:10:00PM I HAD THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR PAUL DIAL LOOK INTO

2:10:04PM AN ACTUAL REAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHT CEREMONY IN ROBERT COLE

2:10:09PM PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED ON MLK AND 19th STREET.

2:10:12PM THEY CAME BACK TO ME WITH A PROPOSAL FROM A COMPANY CALLED

2:10:16PM FESTIVE -- MAKE SURE I HAVE THE CORRECT NAME -- FESTIVE

2:10:23PM LIGHTING, WHO ACTUALLY DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK OF CHRISTMAS

2:10:27PM TREES WITH THE LIGHTING AND SO FORTH.




2:10:29PM THEY CAME BACK AND TOLD ME WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THIS

2:10:32PM PARTICULAR PROJECT.

2:10:33PM THAT PROJECT WILL COST PROBABLY $54,000 TO ACTUALLY HAVE A

2:10:37PM 30-FOOT TREE LIGHTING AND PUT IT IN A LOCATION AT THE POND.

2:10:41PM OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF FUNDS.

2:10:45PM APPARENTLY, THE CRA, ACCORDING TO MR. JOHNSON WITH THE NEW

2:10:49PM RULES AND REGULATIONS, CAN'T HELP BUILD THIS PLATFORM AND SO

2:10:56PM FORTH WITH THE TREE.

2:10:57PM NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK.

2:10:58PM MY POINT IS TO HAVE AN APPEAL.

2:11:01PM I TALKED TO OUR INTERIM FINANCIAL CHIEF OFFICER IN REFERENCE

2:11:06PM TO HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT SETTING THE FUND.

2:11:09PM APPARENTLY PARKS AND RECREATION ALREADY HAVE A FUND CALLED

2:11:11PM FRIENDS OF TAMPA BAY.

2:11:12PM I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES OR ANY IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY

2:11:15PM AT-LARGE, IF THEY COULD POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ENDEAVOR

2:11:19PM OF GETTING A CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING PROGRAM TREE ERECTED IN

2:11:24PM EAST TAMPA.

2:11:25PM JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO MY

2:11:29PM COLLEAGUES.

2:11:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FRIENDS OF TAMPA

2:11:32PM RECREATION.

2:11:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, HE'S GOING TO GET ME FULL NAME.

2:11:35PM I THINK FRIENDS OF TAMPA RECREATION.

2:11:37PM WE CAN DONATE FUNDS AND EARMARK STRICTLY FOR THAT PROJECT.




2:11:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

2:11:42PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

2:11:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

2:11:45PM WE'RE ALL GETTING INVITED TO THE TREE LIGHTINGS, HYDE PARK,

2:11:48PM DOWNTOWN, EVERYBODY HAS GOT A TREE.

2:11:51PM EAST TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE A TREE AND WEST TAMPA, TOO.

2:12:01PM YOU'RE RIGHT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP THERE, WHY DON'T THEY GET

2:12:04PM TO ENJOY WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE GETS?

2:12:06PM THAT'S IT.

2:12:07PM THANKS.

2:12:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:12:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING TODAY.

2:12:11PM SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THOUGH.

2:12:12PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

2:12:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH THE PLAN, BUT $54,000, PUT

2:12:19PM ANOTHER 60, 70 THOUSAND, YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE.

2:12:23PM THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

2:12:25PM YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE AT THE END, NOT GOING TO

2:12:28PM HAVE A HOUSE.

2:12:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]

2:12:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

2:12:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY

2:12:47PM STAFF COME BACK AND GIVE US SUGGESTIONS FOR ORDINANCES FOR

2:12:52PM PROTECTING THE BRICKS UNDER ASPHALT.

2:12:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT BACK, SIR?




2:12:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO MONTHS.

2:13:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

2:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT

2:13:04PM DOWN A SPECIFIC DATE, DO WE?

2:13:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE DO.

2:13:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT A WRITTEN REPORT?

2:13:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST WRITTEN.

2:13:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WRITTEN REPORT, MY SUGGESTION IS YOU PUT IT

2:13:13PM ON THE AGENDA THAT WAY.

2:13:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY 9.

2:13:18PM OKAY, GOOD.

2:13:18PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.

2:13:20PM WHEN YOU SAY PROTECT THEM, DO YOU MEAN PROTECT THEM AS THE

2:13:25PM ASPHALT IS BEING REMOVED FOR THE PIPES PROJECT OR DO YOU

2:13:28PM MEAN?

2:13:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.

2:13:30PM SO THE MOTION WAS TO ASK STAFF TO GIVE US RECOMMENDED --

2:13:37PM POSSIBLE ORDINANCES TO PROTECT -- AND I'LL ADD PRESERVE THE

2:13:43PM BRICKS UNDER ASPHALT STREETS.

2:13:49PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]

2:13:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, AND THIS WILL JUST BE A STAFF REPORT.

2:13:56PM I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TOO ROBUST.

2:13:58PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

2:14:00PM A SECOND BY WHOM?

2:14:01PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.




2:14:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:14:03PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:14:04PM JANUARY 9th.

2:14:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND THING IS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

2:14:13PM MOTION TO OFFER A COMMENDATION TO THE THOMAS JEFFERSON

2:14:16PM SCHOOL ALUMNI ASSOCIATION FOR RAISING TO THE STATE 178,000

2:14:20PM IN SCHOLARSHIPS DESERVING COLLEGE-BOUND STUDENTS.

2:14:23PM THIS COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED ON SATURDAY,

2:14:25PM NOVEMBER 12th.

2:14:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

2:14:29PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:14:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:14:31PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:14:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO DO YOU WANT PRESENTING THAT?

2:14:37PM I HAVE THAT ON MY DESK.

2:14:39PM >> [INAUDIBLE]

2:14:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] [NOT SPEAKING INTO A

2:14:54PM MICROPHONE]

2:14:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS SATURDAY.

2:15:04PM YOLIE CAPIN THAT EVENING IS BEING INDUCTED INTO THE

2:15:07PM JEFFERSON HALL OF FAME.

2:15:09PM I'LL BE THERE TO HONOR OUR FRIEND.

2:15:12PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

2:15:15PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

2:15:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?




2:15:18PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:15:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENDATION MADE

2:15:23PM FOR CONGA CALIENTE, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 16 YEARS.

2:15:27PM THEY DRAW A CROWD FROM 50 TO 60 THOUSAND, AL LOPEZ PARK,

2:15:32PM PRESENT IT AT THE FIRST MEETING WE HAVE IN DECEMBER.

2:15:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

2:15:38PM LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ACTUALLY NO COMMENDATIONS

2:15:42PM THAT DAY.

2:15:43PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

2:15:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:15:46PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:15:46PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

2:15:47PM DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

2:15:49PM OKAY.

2:15:49PM JUST VERY BRIEFLY FOR ME, IF I MAY, THIS PAST SATURDAY I

2:15:53PM GAVE A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA HISPANIC BAR ASSOCIATION

2:15:56PM FOR THE 13th ANNIVERSARY GALA.

2:15:57PM LIKE TO RETROACTIVELY MOTION FOR THAT.

2:16:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A

2:16:02PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:16:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:16:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND, PURSUANT TO THE PRESENTATION FROM

2:16:08PM FRIEND KAREN CLAY, A MOTION FOR A LETTER TO THE HILLSBOROUGH

2:16:10PM STATE DELEGATION OPPOSING CUTS TO MEDICAID WAIVERS IN THE

2:16:14PM PRESENT PLANS FOR REVISIONS.




2:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND

2:16:17PM FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:16:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:16:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, IN THE WAKE OF THE RECENT INCIDENT

2:16:23PM WHERE A CAR CRASHED INTO MEL'S HOT DOGS ON BUSCH BOULEVARD,

2:16:26PM I WANTED TO MOTION FOR F.D.O.T. TO COME TO PRESENT ON SAFETY

2:16:28PM ENHANCEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY, INCLUDING LOWERING THE SPEED

2:16:31PM LIMIT, AT THE DECEMBER 5th MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THEIR

2:16:33PM CORRIDOR STUDY THAT'S TO BE RELEASED IN 2020.

2:16:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, WITH ONIONS AND MUSTARD.

2:16:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND MEL I THINK IS COMING.

2:16:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA --

2:16:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR F.D.O.T. TO COME AND UPDATE US ON THE

2:16:49PM SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND PROSPECTIVELY LOWERING THE SPEED

2:16:51PM LIMIT.

2:16:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR OFFICE WILL COORDINATE --

2:16:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ALREADY HAVE, YES, SIR.

2:16:57PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ONE QUESTION, BECAUSE JEAN DUNCAN TEXTED ME

2:17:02PM AFTER COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE HIS MOTION.

2:17:05PM SHE ASKED IF WE COULD PUSH YOUR REQUEST TO LATER IN JANUARY.

2:17:09PM SHE SAID THEY ARE DOING THE RESEARCH, BUT THEY NEED A LITTLE

2:17:12PM MORE TIME.

2:17:12PM I THINK YOU HAD SAID THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.

2:17:21PM >> JANUARY 23.

2:17:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO JANUARY 23rd.




2:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

2:17:29PM CARLSON.

2:17:30PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

2:17:31PM COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH THE SECOND.

2:17:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:17:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.

2:17:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH THAT SAID, I HAD A MOTION TO COME

2:17:39PM BACK A YEAR FROM NOW -- [NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE]

2:17:42PM I CAN STRIKE MY MOTION.

2:17:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DID MINE BECAUSE THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT

2:17:51PM DIFFERENT.

2:17:52PM THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO GET SUGGESTED ORDINANCES THAT WE

2:17:55PM NEED TO PUT IN PLACE.

2:17:58PM THEN THE NEXT THING IS, WHERE DO WE STORE THEM?

2:18:01PM WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS EM?

2:18:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE TO STRIKE MINE BECAUSE I THINK

2:18:11PM YOU'LL HIT A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES WHEN WE GET TO YOURS.

2:18:15PM [PAPERS RUSTLING OVER THE MICROPHONE]

2:18:18PM I STRIKE MY NOVEMBER, DECEMBER --

2:18:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS FROM HYDE PARK THIS

2:18:23PM MORNING ALREADY.

2:18:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

2:18:27PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, AND A SECOND BY

2:18:29PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:18:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?




2:18:31PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:18:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA

2:18:35PM REGARDING F.D.O.T. COMING TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL, WITH A SECOND

2:18:38PM FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:18:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:18:40PM OPPOSED?

2:18:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

2:18:42PM JUST VERY BRIEFLY, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT, MONDAY IS VETERANS DAY.

2:18:47PM HAPPY VETERANS DAY TO SIMON DINGFELDER, ALONG WITH ALL OTHER

2:18:51PM INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SERVED.

2:18:53PM I KNOW ON SUNDAY AT VILA BROTHERS PARK FROM I THINK 12 TO 3,

2:18:58PM THERE IS A VETERANS DAY EVENT.

2:18:59PM THEN THAT MONDAY AT THE VETERANS PARK AT 301, THERE IS A

2:19:04PM VETERANS DAY EVENT AND ALSO AT MOFFITT, I THINK AT 8:00 OR

2:19:08PM 9:00, THEY ALWAYS RAISE THE FLAG AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE SOME

2:19:10PM INDIVIDUALS THERE.

2:19:11PM WHAT ELSE WAS I GOING TO SAY?

2:19:13PM I THINK THAT'S IT.

2:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

2:19:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

2:19:20PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:19:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:19:22PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:19:24PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU WISH TO RESCHEDULE -- [INAUDIBLE]

2:19:27PM [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]




2:19:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.

2:19:29PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.

2:19:30PM ATU, WE'RE DOING THAT EVERY OTHER MONTH, SO WE'RE GOING TO

2:19:34PM SEEK TO RESCHEDULE THAT TO DECEMBER THE 5th.

2:19:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

2:19:38PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:19:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?

2:19:40PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

2:19:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY

2:19:44PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

2:19:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

2:19:47PM ANY IN FAVOR?

2:19:48PM ANY OPPOSED?

2:19:50PM WE ARE DONE.

2:19:51PM [ADJOURNMENT]



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