TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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9:04:00AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.
9:04:02AM INVOCATION, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, PLEASE.
9:04:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:04:05AM IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO WELCOME RETIRED AIR FORCE
9:04:08AM COLONEL TIM KEEPORTS WHO GREW UP IN TAMPA AND GRADUATED FROM
9:04:14AM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
9:04:15AM HE IS CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
9:04:19AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE HEIGHTS
9:04:21AM URBAN CORE CHAMBER AND NOW WORKS AT CONCIERGE FINANCIAL
9:04:24AM ORGANIZATION IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
9:04:25AM IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN
9:04:28AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:04:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:04:33AM IT IS AN HONOR TO ADDRESS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
9:04:37AM CITIZENS PRESENT THIS MORNING.
9:04:38AM LET US TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO PAUSE AND TO REFLECT AND TO
9:04:44AM INVITE PEACE AND CALM TO ENTER THIS CHAMBER.
9:04:47AM OUR MINDS AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR HEARTS.
9:04:50AM LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU EXTEND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT INTO THIS ROOM
9:04:57AM AND ENVELOPE ALL OF US WITH YOUR UNFATHOMABLE WISDOM.
9:05:01AM AS EACH OF US WALK THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF TODAY, AND AS
9:05:05AM WE INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A COUNCIL STRIVE TO MAKE THE BEST
9:05:07AM DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, AND OUR FAMILIES,
9:05:14AM LEAD US TO BE STRONG, TO BE WISE, AND TO ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE
9:05:18AM HUMBLE.
9:05:20AM HELP US ALSO TO REFLECT POSITIVELY ON THE AMAZING MEN AND
9:05:24AM WOMEN SERVING CURRENTLY OR SERVING PREVIOUSLY IN OUR
9:05:28AM MILITARY AS WE THINK AND REFLECT AHEAD OF VETERANS DAY THIS
9:05:34AM COMING MONDAY.
9:05:35AM IT IS THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO LIVE
9:05:38AM PEACEFULLY IN THIS GREAT NATION.
9:05:41AM IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AND LIFT YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.
9:05:45AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:06:08AM [ NO ENCODER ]
9:06:25AM [ NO ENCODER ]
9:06:27AM >> APOLOGIES TO STAFF AND ANYBODY, BUT OVERNIGHT, I GOT A
9:06:30AM BUNCH OF CALLS AND E-MAILS ABOUT NUMBER 20, WHICH IS RELATED
9:06:33AM TO DRONES.
9:06:35AM IF POSSIBLE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION.
9:06:38AM I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AVAILABLE OR NOT.
9:06:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN PULL IT.
9:06:41AM I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE WITH THE TAMPA
9:06:44AM POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:06:45AM I HIGHLY DOUBT WE CAN GET SOMEBODY HERE.
9:06:47AM IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION, WE CAN DO
9:06:50AM THAT.
9:06:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY.
9:06:52AM THAT JUST CAME OVERNIGHT.
9:06:54AM NUMBER 56, I PREVIOUSLY SAID I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT JUST
9:06:58AM SO THAT WE CAN SEPARATELY DISCUSS THAT INSTEAD OF BEING ON
9:07:01AM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
9:07:01AM AND THEN 103, I PROPOSE MOVING THAT ONE TO MARCH 5th.
9:07:11AM THE REASON THAT I SAID IN MY MEMO IS THAT ORIGINALLY WE
9:07:16AM WANTED THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REPORT.
9:07:18AM SINCE THEN, THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEFT.
9:07:20AM THE IDEA IS TO WAIT UNTIL THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
9:07:23AM IS ON BOARD AND HAS TIME TO ANALYZE THE SITUATION AND HAS A
9:07:27AM LOOK AT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF A LARGER PLAN.
9:07:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:07:30AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT, SIR?
9:07:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT IT BE MOVED TO
9:07:36AM MARCH 5.
9:07:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:07:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:07:41AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:07:43AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:07:43AM OKAY.
9:07:44AM ANYTHING ELSE.
9:07:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, WITH REGARD TO YOUR
9:07:48AM CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES IN TERMS OF HOUSE KEEPING, DID YOU
9:07:50AM WANT TO ADDRESS THAT?
9:07:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:07:53AM I KNOW OUR FRIENDS FROM DONATELLO ARE REQUESTING TO GO
9:07:56AM FIRST.
9:07:57AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
9:07:58AM WE'LL HAVE THAT.
9:07:59AM ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE THE WONDERFUL KAREN CLAY HERE.
9:08:02AM I WAS REQUESTING THAT SHE GO BEFORE FRIENDS WITH TAMPA BAY
9:08:05AM WATER.
9:08:07AM DO WE NEED A MOTION OF THAT?
9:08:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S PART OF YOUR APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND
9:08:12AM ADDENDUM.
9:08:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:15AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:08:15AM ANYTHING ELSE?
9:08:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE MORE.
9:08:17AM I BELIEVE UNDER THE ADDENDUM, THERE WAS SOMETHING FROM
9:08:21AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO REGARDING ADDING A COMMENDATION TO THE
9:08:24AM FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA.
9:08:26AM SHOULD THAT ALSO BE ADDED TO THE CEREMONIAL AGENDA THEN?
9:08:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
9:08:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
9:08:31AM THANK YOU.
9:08:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO,
9:08:33AM SIR.
9:08:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:08:35AM MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY
9:09:15AM COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY YEARS I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
9:09:19AM TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
9:09:20AM FOR MANY YEARS, WE HAVE GIVEN HUNDREDS, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF
9:09:23AM COMMENDATIONS.
9:09:25AM I CAN SAY THIS, STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, WHEN THIS
9:09:28AM CAME ABOUT, I WOULD SAY THIS IS IN THE TOP FIVE OF ANY
9:09:34AM COMMENDATION THAT I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF PRESENTING.
9:09:37AM AND THIS IS BECAUSE IT STARTED NOT BY US ASKING THEM.
9:09:42AM IT WAS THEM ASKING THEN MAYOR FREEDMAN THAT THEY WANT TO DO
9:09:45AM SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:09:47AM AND FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS, THE DONATELLO FAMILY FROM THE
9:09:52AM FAMOUS ITALIAN RESTAURANT.
9:09:55AM IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, YOU HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD MEAL.
9:09:58AM THEY STARTED THIS WITH THE BLESSING OF MAYOR FREEDMAN.
9:10:03AM HE JUST CALLED ME, ALSO BOBBY BOWDEN WAS THERE FROM DAY ONE.
9:10:08AM BOBBY COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.
9:10:10AM HE TOLD ME TO DO THE BEST I CAN WITHOUT HIM.
9:10:16AM THE FAMILY HAS DONE OUTSTANDING THINGS FOR 30 YEARS.
9:10:20AM EVERY THANKSGIVING DAY, THEY HAVE A DINNER AT THE
9:10:22AM RESTAURANT.
9:10:25AM LIKE TO PRESENT, FIRST OF ALL, HIS SON GINO AND LOVELY WIFE
9:10:29AM ALEXANDRIA.
9:10:30AM I'VE KNOWN KITTY.
9:10:33AM I HAVEN'T SEEN KITTY SINCE THE SKY LINERS.
9:10:37AM THEY WERE ONE OF THE BEST GROUPS THAT ALWAYS PLAYED ON
9:10:40AM SATURDAY AND VERY CLOSE TO WHAT IT WAS THEN, THE CENTER, AN
9:10:46AM OLD GROCERY STORE THERE.
9:10:47AM IT USED TO GET JAM-PACKED WITH TEENAGERS AND YOUNG MEN AND
9:10:52AM WOMEN.
9:10:52AM THE MUSIC IS FANTASTIC.
9:10:54AM SHE'S ALSO PART OF THE DONATELLO FAMILY AND SHE HAS A DUO
9:11:01AM WITH MAGEE.
9:11:03AM I DIDN'T SAY FOR THAT REASON.
9:11:11AM I SAID WE LOOK ALIKE.
9:11:12AM BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, 30,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
9:11:19AM SERVED BY THIS FAMILY ON THANKSGIVING THE LAST 30 YEARS.
9:11:23AM ABOUT A THOUSAND A YEAR.
9:11:26AM THAT LEAVES A WARM HEART IN MY MIND.
9:11:28AM MOST OF THE KIDS THAT COME THERE AND FAMILIES THAT COME IN
9:11:31AM ARE FOSTER CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES HELPING THEM OUT.
9:11:34AM SOMETIMES THEY ARE FORGOTTEN.
9:11:36AM ALONG WITH THEM, SOME OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB COME IN AND
9:11:38AM MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
9:11:41AM AND IT'S JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE THING THEY DO.
9:11:44AM NOT ONLY DO THEY SERVE FIRST-CLASS MEALS FOR THANKSGIVING
9:11:48AM DAY, BUT THEY ALSO GIVE THEM GIFTS.
9:11:50AM EVERY CHILD THAT COMES IN THERE GETS A GIFT ON THE WAY OUT.
9:11:54AM WE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.
9:11:55AM THEY CAME TO SEE MAYOR FREEDMAN, YOUR FATHER, GUIDO DID.
9:12:02AM NO RELATION.
9:12:03AM GUIDO, YOU RELATED TO GUIDO?
9:12:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ONE OF THE FIVE AND I THINK FOUR
9:12:08AM GUIDOS LEFT IN TAMPA.
9:12:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS
9:12:13AM OUT ON THAT.
9:12:14AM WHAT YOUR FATHER STARTED AND YOUR FAMILY, ALONG WITH YOUR
9:12:17AM LOVELY MOTHER ALEXANDRIA, IT'S AN AMAZING THING.
9:12:21AM I'M PROUD TO BE HERE TODAY AND READ PART OF THIS
9:12:23AM COMMENDATION.
9:12:24AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE DONATELLO'S
9:12:27AM ITALIAN RESTAURANT FOR THE GENEROSITY, CHARITABLE
9:12:31AM THANKSGIVING DINNERS EVERY YEAR TO FAMILIES OF THE
9:12:33AM COMMUNITY.
9:12:33AM THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE FAMILY SPEAKS VOLUMES OF THE VALUE
9:12:37AM AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS.
9:12:39AM WHAT YOU DO SOMETIMES ARE PEOPLE THAT WE FORGET ABOUT IT, IN
9:12:45AM ESSENCE, IN LIFE, REAL LIFE.
9:12:47AM AND WHAT YOU DO IS GIVE SOMEBODY HOPE, SOMEBODY ADMIRATION,
9:12:51AM SOMEBODY A STEP UP INSTEAD OF A PUSH DOWN.
9:12:54AM AND FOR THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE GRATIFIED BY ALL OF US.
9:12:57AM YOUR FAMILY HAS DONE OUTSTANDING WORK AND FOR MANY YEARS,
9:13:02AM AND VICTOR, HE'S YOUR BARBER.
9:13:06AM BUT WITH HAIR LIKE THIS HE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
9:13:10AM BUT VICTOR HAS BEEN HELPING THEM ALONG WITH BOBBY BOWDEN AND
9:13:14AM MARVIN KNIGHT.
9:13:15AM THEY SHOW UP WITH A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY,
9:13:18AM WHO IF I NAME ONE, I'LL MISS THEM ALL.
9:13:21AM THEY SHOW UP TO HELP.
9:13:23AM WHEN YOU SERVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE, YOU NEED HELP.
9:13:27AM AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE RESTAURANT, TRY IT.
9:13:29AM YOU'LL GO BACK.
9:13:30AM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, IT'S MY HONOR TO REPRESENT
9:13:35AM THE FAMILY, THIS COMMENDATION, FOR WHAT YOUR FATHER STARTED,
9:13:39AM ALONG WITH YOUR MOTHER.
9:13:40AM SHE WAS BY HIS SIDE ALL THE WAY.
9:13:43AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
9:13:45AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:13:51AM >> THANK YOU.
9:13:51AM WITHOUT TAKING TOO MUCH TIME, I JUST SAY A FEW WORDS.
9:13:59AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR SUPPORTING
9:14:03AM US FOR 35 YEARS.
9:14:05AM REALLY, WITHOUT THE PEOPLE, THE CITY SUPPORTING THE
9:14:08AM RESTAURANT, THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
9:14:12AM LIKE MR. MIRANDA SAID, MY FATHER STARTED THIS EVENT ALONG
9:14:17AM WITH MS. FREEDMAN, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK
9:14:20AM TO THE CITY AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MOST NEEDY.
9:14:23AM THEY REALLY CREATED THE EVENT.
9:14:26AM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WITH ME HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL OVER
9:14:30AM THE YEARS IN CONTINUING IT, PRIMARILY FOR MY STEPMOTHER,
9:14:37AM ALEXANDRA, 30 MUSS YEARS, SHE'S REALLY BEEN THE DRIVING
9:14:43AM FORCE IN GROWING IT, MAKING IT BECOME THE EVENT THAT IT HAS.
9:14:47AM MAGEE DONATED TIME TO PLAY ON THANKSGIVING DAY FOR ALL OF
9:14:53AM THE VISITORS THAT COME TO THE RESTAURANT FOR 20 YEARS NOW.
9:14:59AM AND VICTOR HAS BEEN A VOLUNTEER WITH US FOR MANY YEARS ALSO.
9:15:04AM AGAIN, LIKE MR. MIRANDA SAID, TO FEED A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN
9:15:07AM ONE DAY, WE HAVE 50, 60, 70 VOLUNTEERS THAT SHOW UP EVERY
9:15:16AM YEAR WITHOUT US CALLING THEM OR ASKING THEM REPEATEDLY
9:15:20AM DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, FROM HIGH
9:15:23AM SCHOOL KIDS TO ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE, AGAIN, FROM
9:15:28AM ALL AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA, THAT COME IN AND HELP US MAKE
9:15:32AM THE EVENT POSSIBLE.
9:15:33AM WITHOUT THEM, WE'D STILL BE SERVING THANKSGIVING DAY DINNER.
9:15:38AM BY THE TIME NEXT THANKSGIVING CAME.
9:15:42AM SO, YES, THANK YOU AGAIN, PRIMARILY TO CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:15:46AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:15:49AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION.
9:15:53AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY FROM EXPERIENCE, IF YOU WANT
9:16:02AM TO LISTEN TO GOOD COMBO AND SOMETIMES A TRIO OVER THERE,
9:16:06AM MONDAY, TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, AT THE LOUNGE, KITTY AND
9:16:15AM ET AL.
9:16:16AM SHE IS FANTASTIC.
9:16:17AM I REMEMBER HER WHEN WE WERE TEENAGERS.
9:16:19AM SHE STILL LOOKS YOUNG.
9:16:21AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
9:16:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:16:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:16:23AM BEFORE YOU ALL GO, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN
9:16:26AM MANISCALCO.
9:16:27AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
9:16:30AM TO OUR ATTENTION, DONATELLO FAMILY, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL
9:16:35AM THE HARD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU DO FOR THIS EVENT.
9:16:39AM ON A PERSONAL NOTE, IT'S BEEN A BIG THRILL FOR ME TO BE ON
9:16:42AM CITY COUNCIL OVER THE YEARS, BUT A BIGGER THRILL WAS THE
9:16:45AM OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AT MS. KITTY'S PIANO AND SING WITH HER,
9:16:53AM BECAUSE SHE IS A TRUE GEM, A TRUE LEGEND IN OUR COMMUNITY,
9:17:02AM AND WE LOVE HER AND I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SING.
9:17:06AM HER EARS PROBABLY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN OVER IT, BUT THANK
9:17:09AM YOU.
9:17:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:17:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I TRY TO GO ALMOST EVERY YEAR, AT
9:17:15AM LEAST FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, TO THE THANKSGIVING DAY THAT
9:17:17AM YOU DO.
9:17:18AM IT'S INSANE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU GIVE GIFTS TO, KIDS
9:17:23AM COMING THROUGH, CELEBRITIES COMING THROUGH, EVERYBODY
9:17:26AM GETTING A MEAL THERE AND TREATED WITH RESPECT THAT THEY CAN
9:17:29AM SIT DOWN AND ENJOY IT.
9:17:30AM MY FATHER DOESN'T MISS IT.
9:17:33AM YOU KNOW HIM.
9:17:34AM HE'S THERE REGULARLY.
9:17:35AM YOUR FATHER WAS A WONDERFUL PERSON AND I APPRECIATE ANYBODY
9:17:39AM NAMED GUIDO BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMMON.
9:17:41AM IT WAS ALWAYS WELCOMING OF EVERYBODY.
9:17:44AM IT'S ALWAYS A TREAT TO GO TO DONATELLO.
9:17:47AM YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'LL BUMP INTO.
9:17:49AM I MET ROBIN WILLIAMS THERE.
9:17:51AM MY FATHER MET COUNTLESS CELEBRITIES, SPORTS FIGURES.
9:17:54AM WHEN I USED TO GO TO MALIO'S ON DALE MABRY, YOU'D ALWAYS SEE
9:17:58AM SOMEBODY FAMOUS.
9:18:00AM YOU CAN'T BEAT DONATELLO.
9:18:02AM ITALIAN RESTAURANTS COME AND GO, BUT YOU ARE THE AUTHENTIC
9:18:06AM REAL DEAL BUT YOU ALWAYS FOCUS ON GIVING BACK.
9:18:09AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN WONDERFUL TO ME AND MY FAMILY AS FRIENDS,
9:18:13AM NOT JUST AS CUSTOMERS, SO I APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL
9:18:17AM THAT YOU DO EACH YEAR.
9:18:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
9:18:22AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:18:23AM THANK YOU.
9:18:25AM >> GRACIAS.
9:18:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:18:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:18:54AM IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY AND TO GIVE A TAMPA
9:18:57AM CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO OUR GOOD FRIENDS WITH SAFE AND
9:19:00AM SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.
9:19:01AM I SEE HERE OUR GOOD FRIENDS, STATE ATTORNEY MR. ANDREW
9:19:04AM WARREN, MS. JULIE HOLT AND WONDERFUL MARIE MARINO WHO IS
9:19:08AM SUCH A GREAT PUBLIC DEFENDER.
9:19:10AM IT IS A REAL PLEASURE.
9:19:10AM YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, WHEN I WAS LOOKING OVER PROSPECTIVE
9:19:16AM REMARKS, I KEPT THINKING ABOUT THE TERM SO MALIGNED IN THE
9:19:19AM LAST TEN YEARS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.
9:19:21AM WE ALL KNOW IN WHAT CONTEXT THAT'S BEEN MALIGNED, I ALWAYS
9:19:26AM THINK WHEN FOLKS TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF ORGANIZING THE
9:19:28AM COMMUNITY, THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING.
9:19:30AM THAT WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, THE
9:19:32AM HUNGRY, THE POOR, THE ABANDONED, THOSE WHO ARE AT RISK,
9:19:35AM ET CETERA, AND YOU GIVE THEM HELP, YOU GIVE THEM
9:19:37AM INTERVENTION, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
9:19:39AM WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH, ALONG
9:19:42AM WITH ITS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE HAVE BEEN
9:19:46AM DOING SINCE 2013, AND THEY DO JUST A REAL, REAL MARVELOUS
9:19:50AM JOB IN THAT REGARD.
9:19:51AM I KNOW THAT RECENTLY YOU WERE HERE WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES
9:19:54AM BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION A REENTRY ORDINANCE.
9:19:56AM THAT REALLY GOES TO THE HEART OF WHAT SAFE AND SOUND
9:19:59AM HILLSBOROUGH DOES.
9:20:00AM A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF BEING TOUGH ON CRIME,
9:20:02AM AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT
9:20:05AM YOU'VE ALSO GOT TO BE TOUGH ON THE CAUSES OF CRIME.
9:20:08AM THAT SORT OF ISOLATION, THE FAMILY DISCORD, FAMILY
9:20:11AM DISRUPTION, ET CETERA.
9:20:13AM THE BASIC THINGS THAT SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH GET DOWN
9:20:16AM TO THE CORE OF.
9:20:18AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
9:20:20AM HONORING NOT JUST HERE TODAY BUT CONTINUING TO HONOR AS
9:20:23AM COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.
9:20:26AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND
9:20:30AM SAY WORDS ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION.
9:20:32AM IT IS OUR PLEASURE AND HONOR TO GIVE THIS TO YOU, SIR.
9:20:35AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:20:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:20:38AM CERTAINLY, WE'RE HONORED TO BE HERE TO RECEIVE THIS
9:20:40AM COMMENDATION AND ALSO TO JUST ONCE AGAIN TALK ABOUT THE
9:20:45AM EFFORTS OF SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH TO REDUCE AND PREVENT
9:20:47AM VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:20:48AM AS OUR VISION STATEMENT SAYS, WE WORK TOGETHER TO PROMOTE
9:20:51AM STRONG FAMILIES, SAFE SCHOOLS AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:20:53AM WE CAN'T DO THIS WORK WITHOUT THE STRONG SUPPORT OF ALL OF
9:20:57AM YOU HERE, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONE OF OUR STRONGEST PARTNERS
9:21:00AM IN OUR EFFORT.
9:21:02AM IT JUST SPEAKS TO THE MAGNITUDE OF OUR WORK WHEN WE HAVE OUR
9:21:05AM PUBLIC DEFENDER AND OUR STATE ATTORNEY GET TOGETHER AND SAY
9:21:08AM WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE OUR YOUTH HAVE A
9:21:11AM POSITIVE TRAJECTORY IN LIFE AND THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE
9:21:13AM ISSUES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO VIOLENCE.
9:21:15AM WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE TAMPA BE MARKED AS A PLACE WHERE
9:21:18AM PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE.
9:21:20AM WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
9:21:21AM WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IN OUR EVENTS.
9:21:24AM WHETHER A I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO -- ALLOW YOU TO HEAR
9:21:27AM FROM OUR LEADERSHIP COUNCIL CHAIR, OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER,
9:21:30AM MENTOR, FRIEND, MRS. HOLT, AS WELL AS ANOTHER FRIEND, STRONG
9:21:34AM ADVOCATE IN THE COMMUNITY, MR. WARREN.
9:21:36AM >> WELL, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:21:38AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY AND CHAIR
9:21:41AM VIERA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
9:21:43AM I JUST ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL WANT TO SAY THAT
9:21:47AM OUR EFFORTS REALLY HAVE STARTED TO FOCUS TREMENDOUSLY ON
9:21:50AM MENTAL HEALTH WELL-BEING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:21:52AM I AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU WILL APPRECIATE YOUR ROLE IN THAT
9:21:57AM PARTICULAR MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE
9:21:59AM RECENTLY WENT OUT EVEN, AS FAR OUT AS WIMAUMA.
9:22:02AM I CAN TELL YOU EVERYWHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE
9:22:07AM NUMBER ONE CONCERN THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS IS THE PREVENTION
9:22:09AM OF VIOLENCE AND, EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE MENTAL HEALTH
9:22:11AM WELL-BEING OF ITS CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
9:22:14AM THEY CLEARLY LOOK TO US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AS
9:22:17AM COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HELP THEM IN THAT PARTICULAR QUEST.
9:22:21AM SO ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
9:22:23AM VERY STRONG SUPPORT.
9:22:24AM I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE
9:22:27AM OF YOU.
9:22:27AM I WANT TO INTRODUCE FOR JUST A MOMENT, IF I COULD, THE CHAIR
9:22:30AM OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH FAMILY WELL-BEING COMMITTEE, MARIE
9:22:34AM MARINO WHO HAS BEEN DOING THE WORK ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC
9:22:37AM DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
9:22:38AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SUPE, FOR 27 YEARS.
9:22:41AM I WANT TO APPLAUD HER EFFORTS TODAY BECAUSE SHE HAS
9:22:44AM CERTAINLY MOVED US.
9:22:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:22:54AM JUST TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER AND FREDDY
9:22:58AM BARTON.
9:22:58AM SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH HAS DONE SO MUCH TO EMBRACE THE
9:23:01AM PHILOSOPHY THAT WE CAN REDUCE CRIME AND MAKE OUR
9:23:04AM NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER BY PREVENTING CRIME, TRYING TO STEER KIDS
9:23:08AM FROM THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL OF THE SYSTEM.
9:23:09AM I TELL YOU, AS MUCH AS WE LOOK AT SYSTEMIC CHANGE WITHIN THE
9:23:12AM CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH DOES SO
9:23:15AM MUCH ON A PERSON-BY-PERSON LEVEL.
9:23:18AM WHEN YOU GO TO THE EVENTS, YOU WATCH OUT THE KIDS INTERACT
9:23:23AM WITH THE MENTORS THERE, WITH FREDDY AND HIS TEAM.
9:23:27AM WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS, IT
9:23:29AM MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE KIDS, AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN
9:23:33AM THEIR FACES TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
9:23:35AM WHO CARE ABOUT THEM, WHO ARE WORKING TOWARDS MAKING THEM
9:23:39AM SAFER, HEALTHIER, STRONGER, AND KEEPING THEM ON A PATH TO
9:23:42AM BEING A PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN.
9:23:44AM UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY COME TO ONE OF THOSE EVENTS, AND I URGE
9:23:47AM PEOPLE TO COME WATCH WHAT SAFE AND SOUND DOES ON AN
9:23:50AM EVENT-BY-EVENT BASIS, IT'S HARD TO APPRECIATE THE IMPACT
9:23:53AM THAT FREDDIE AND HIS TEAM HAVE EVERY DAY ON AT-RISK KIDS IN
9:23:57AM OUR COMMUNITY.
9:24:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:24:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM.
9:24:09AM YOU HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP RUNNING THE PROGRAMS.
9:24:11AM I WANT TO SAY, FREDDY, THANK YOU FOR COMING A COUPLE OF
9:24:14AM WEEKS AGO.
9:24:15AM YOU KNOW HOW ENTRENCHED I AM IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IN OUR
9:24:18AM YOUNG PEOPLE AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO HAVE PAST INDISCRETIONS
9:24:22AM WHO ARE NOT GETTING OPPORTUNITIES.
9:24:24AM I WAS THANKFUL YOU CAME AND SPOKE BECAUSE YOU ARE DEALING
9:24:27AM WITH THAT EVERY DAY.
9:24:28AM YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:24:29AM I'M GLAD THAT THE COUNCIL ON THAT DAY UNDERSTOOD THAT AND
9:24:32AM ALSO HAVE SUGGESTIONS TO BRING BACK TO OUR LEGAL SO WE CAN
9:24:34AM GET SOMETHING MOVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SO WE CAN BE THE
9:24:36AM FOREFATHERS OF GETTING SOMETHING GREAT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:24:39AM AS IT RELATES TO REENTRY.
9:24:41AM MS. HOLT, MR. WARREN, YOU'RE DOING A FABULOUS JOB.
9:24:44AM I DID GO TO YOUR COUNCIL MEETING.
9:24:46AM I THINK MY AIDE AND YOUR OFFICE IS WORKING WITH A DATE FOR
9:24:50AM YOU TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO TELL US ALL THE OTHER
9:24:53AM WONDERFUL PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE WORKING ON IN OUR COUNTY
9:24:56AM AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT.
9:24:58AM I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU,
9:25:01AM FREDDY.
9:25:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:25:03AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO COUNCILMAN
9:25:06AM GUDES' COMMENTS.
9:25:07AM I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MS. HOLT AND
9:25:10AM MS. MARINO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND MR. WARREN FOR A COUPLE
9:25:13AM OF YEARS NOW.
9:25:14AM AND THIS COMMUNITY IS SO LUCKY.
9:25:16AM YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING,
9:25:20AM DIFFICULT THINGS FACING OUR COMMUNITY AND IT AFFECTS
9:25:23AM EVERYBODY IN NUMEROUS WAYS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE A VICTIM,
9:25:28AM FAMILY.
9:25:29AM WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE LEADERS IN MR. WARREN AND MS. HOLT AT
9:25:34AM THE HEAD OF THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING
9:25:37AM SO CLOSELY TOGETHER ON THESE TOUGH ISSUES AND THAT'S THE
9:25:41AM ONLY WAY WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS.
9:25:42AM I THINK WE'RE ALREADY STANDING OUT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA
9:25:45AM AND PROBABLY NATIONALLY BECAUSE OF THAT.
9:25:47AM WE THANK YOU.
9:25:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:25:53AM FREDDY, I THINK STATE ATTORNEY WARREN SAID IT BEST, MAKING A
9:25:57AM DIFFERENCE.
9:25:57AM THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT DIFFERENCE.
9:25:59AM MR. WARREN, MS. HOLT, ANYTIME THAT THIS GROUP NEEDS ME FOR
9:26:03AM ANYTHING, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL ME.
9:26:06AM TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.
9:26:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:10AM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:26:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
9:26:12AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES, COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:26:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:19AM NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN CITRO --
9:26:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
9:26:49AM WILL BE GIVING A COMMENDATION.
9:27:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THIS PRESENTATION OR
9:27:07AM COMMENDATION THIS MORNING FOR THE FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA
9:27:09AM SANGRIA AND CIGARS, PRESENTED BY THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF
9:27:12AM COMMERCE TO BE HELD THIS SUNDAY, 11 TO 4.
9:27:19AM THOSE WATCHING AND FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, IT'S A GREAT
9:27:22AM EVENT.
9:27:23AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HONORS THE FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA SANGRIA
9:27:25AM AND CIGARS PRESENTED BY THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
9:27:27AM THIS IS WEST TAMPA'S SIGNATURE EVENT THAT BRINGS TOGETHER
9:27:30AM THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY, ITS BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS
9:27:33AM THAT SHARE ALL THAT WEST TAMPA HAS TO OFFER WITH ATTENDEES
9:27:37AM FROM THROUGHOUT THE GREATER TAMPA BAY AREA AND BEYOND.
9:27:39AM THE EVENT BRINGS NEW VISITORS TO WEST TAMPA, HIGHLIGHTING
9:27:42AM THE COMMUNITY'S HISTORIC ROOTS AND ENHANCING WEST TAMPA'S
9:27:45AM IMAGE AS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
9:27:48AM A PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS WILL BE DONATED TO THE
9:27:51AM JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HEALTH CLINIC, WHICH HAS SERVED OUR
9:27:54AM COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
9:27:55AM AND THEIR GREAT WORK PROVIDES LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
9:27:58AM INDIVIDUALS WITH CRITICALLY NEEDED MEDICAL AND DENTAL CARE.
9:28:01AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES YOUR COMPASSION, ENTERPRISING
9:28:02AM ENDEAVORS, AND YOUR SELFLESS EFFORTS FOR THIS MOST
9:28:04AM WORTHWHILE EVENT.
9:28:07AM IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
9:28:10AM PRESENTS WITH YOU THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 7th DAY OF
9:28:13AM NOVEMBER, 2019.
9:28:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:24AM >> THANK YOU, GUIDO, AND DISTINGUISHED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:28:32AM WE, ON BEHALF OF THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WE
9:28:36AM TRULY APPRECIATE THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:28:42AM JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EVENT, IT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE
9:28:44AM HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF WEST TAMPA WHICH IS RICH, TALK ABOUT
9:28:49AM CULTURE AND HISTORY, AS WELL AS THE WEST TAMPA TODAY.
9:28:51AM IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE OF EVERYTHING OF WEST TAMPA, WHICH IS A
9:28:54AM GREAT COMMUNITY HERE IN TAMPA.
9:28:56AM ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WE AS A CHAMBER PUT THIS EVENT ON
9:29:01AM IS TO HELP SUPPORT THE LOCAL WEST TAMPA CHAMBER NONPROFIT
9:29:06AM ORGANIZATION.
9:29:08AM THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HEALTH CLINIC.
9:29:10AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE KELLY
9:29:13AM BELL.
9:29:14AM SHE'S OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HEALTH
9:29:17AM CLINIC.
9:29:17AM SHE WILL GIVE YOU A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE CLINIC.
9:29:19AM HOPE TO SEE YOU THIS COMING SUNDAY.
9:29:21AM ONE LAST THING, BEFORE I FORGET, IF I DON'T DO THIS, THIS IS
9:29:25AM FOR EACH OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS.
9:29:27AM WE HAVE A NICE WINE TEMPLATE HERE AND YOU'LL GET IT BEFORE
9:29:33AM THE END OF THE MEETING.
9:29:34AM ALSO, SPECIAL INVITATION WITH THIS, YOU GET A VIP PASS FOR
9:29:39AM THE EVENT THIS SUNDAY.
9:29:41AM HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
9:29:44AM >> IS IT UNDER A HUNDRED DOLLARS?
9:29:46AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:29:47AM >> IT IS 99.99.
9:29:50AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION OF THE EVENT,
9:29:55AM FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA, THE 8th YEAR FOR THE EVENT.
9:29:58AM THE CLINIC IS IN ITS 47th YEAR OF SERVICE TO TAMPA BAY AND
9:30:02AM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AREA, SERVING PEOPLE WHO ARE
9:30:05AM UNINSURED AND WHO DO NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
9:30:09AM THE FOLKS WHO COME TOGETHER TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY ARE
9:30:12AM VOLUNTEERS, DOCTORS, DENTISTS, EYE DOCTORS, PHARMACISTS.
9:30:17AM WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH PRIDE.
9:30:19AM WE'RE HONORED TO DO SO.
9:30:21AM WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO BE PARTNERED WITH THE WEST TAMPA
9:30:24AM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE THANK THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY FOR
9:30:26AM THE RECOGNITION.
9:30:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU AT THE EVENT
9:30:35AM AND TO ALL FROM WEST TAMPA AND ALSO THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT I
9:30:39AM WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
9:30:41AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS SENDING ME ON A MISSION TO A PLACE
9:30:44AM CALLED OXFORD FLORIDA.
9:30:46AM I USUALLY GO TO -- I MAY NEVER COME BACK.
9:30:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT I'VE GOT TO PERFORM MY DUTIES
9:30:57AM SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
9:30:58AM I WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
9:31:01AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:31:02AM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:31:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
9:31:04AM COUNCILMAN, HAVING WORKED WITH THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF
9:31:07AM COMMERCE, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SPECIAL EVENT OVER THE YEARS.
9:31:11AM I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE HUGE BEING AT THE JULIAN
9:31:14AM B. LANE PARK THIS YEAR.
9:31:17AM I WILL BE THERE SUNDAY.
9:31:19AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I AM SORRY YOU WON'T BE THERE.
9:31:24AM BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY WILL BE HAVING THE DOMINO'S
9:31:27AM TOURNAMENT WITH HANDICAP, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN
9:31:30AM THIS YEAR.
9:31:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL THAT ARE LISTENING AND ALL THAT ARE
9:31:40AM SEEING THIS, I CHALLENGE THIS MAN.
9:31:42AM I DON'T PLAY WELL BUT THE GUYS THAT ARE COMING AND THE
9:31:44AM LADIES THAT ARE COMING THAT I KNOW REALLY PLAY WELL.
9:31:46AM I KNEW GOING IN I WOULD NEVER WIN ANYTHING.
9:31:49AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:31:52AM NOW I GOT A CHALLENGE.
9:31:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S ON.
9:31:55AM ANYONE ELSE?
9:31:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:57AM NEXT WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
9:32:02AM I WOULD INVITE MY GOOD FRIEND, MS. KAREN CLAY TO COME ON UP,
9:32:06AM IF YOU WOULD, KAREN.
9:32:08AM IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY WITH YOU.
9:32:11AM I THINK ALL OF US HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL KNOW KAREN CLAY
9:32:14AM VERY WELL.
9:32:15AM I WANTED TO INVITE MY GOOD FRIEND KAREN CLAY.
9:32:17AM AND KAREN IS NOT JUST -- I CALL HER, SHE'S NOT JUST MY
9:32:21AM FRIEND, SHE'S ONE OF MY HEROES.
9:32:23AM I DON'T OVERSTATE WHENEVER I SAY THAT.
9:32:25AM KAREN IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE
9:32:27AM TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION ON AT THE END
9:32:30AM OF CITY COUNCIL DURING MOTION TIME, INVOLVING MEDICAID
9:32:33AM WAIVER AND THE GREAT DRASTIC CHANGES HAPPENING HERE IN THE
9:32:38AM STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE TERRIBLE EFFECT THAT THIS IS GOING
9:32:41AM TO HAVE AND IS HAVING ON PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND
9:32:45AM DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
9:32:47AM IT'S A CAUSE THAT KAREN IS A WARRIOR FOR AND FEELS IN HER
9:32:53AM HEART.
9:32:53AM KAREN, GO AHEAD.
9:32:55AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:32:58AM GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO
9:33:01AM YOU TODAY.
9:33:02AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE DEMOCRATIC DISABILITY CAUCUS OF
9:33:06AM FLORIDA AS WELL AS OUR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHAPTER.
9:33:08AM BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I AM A MOM AND A CAREGIVER.
9:33:12AM I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH ONE QUICK COMMENT,
9:33:16AM MR. DINGFELDER.
9:33:17AM THIS IS REGARDING ANY STRAW BANS, THE DISABILITY CAUCUS
9:33:24AM OPPOSE ANY ALL-OUT BANS AND WE REQUEST PROVISION UPON
9:33:29AM REQUEST.
9:33:30AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE MEDICAID REDESIGN.
9:33:33AM IT'S NOT A MEDICAID REDESIGN AT ALL.
9:33:35AM THAT'S A VERY DISINGENUOUS TERM.
9:33:38AM THIS IS AN ATTACK ON FLORIDA'S MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.
9:33:41AM FOR THE MAJORITY OF FLORIDIANS, MEDICAID IS A LIFELINE.
9:33:46AM IT'S THERE TO PROTECT IN CASE OF AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, A
9:33:50AM NATURAL DISASTER LIKE WE SAW IN THE PANHANDLE THIS PAST
9:33:55AM YEAR.
9:33:55AM AND FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, A MEDICAID WAIVER IS
9:33:58AM A LIFE.
9:33:59AM IT ENABLES INDIVIDUALS TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND
9:34:02AM COMMUNITIES, LEADING MEANINGFUL, PRODUCTIVE LIVES.
9:34:06AM MANY -- WITH THE HELP OF PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE, JOB
9:34:11AM COACHES, ET CETERA.
9:34:12AM MEDICAID WAIVERS ARE COST-EFFECTIVE.
9:34:14AM THEY COST LESS THAN INSTITUTIONAL CARE.
9:34:17AM AND INDIVIDUALS WOULDN'T EVEN QUALIFY FOR THIS MEDICAID
9:34:20AM WAIVER UNLESS IT COST LESS THAN INSTITUTIONAL CARE.
9:34:24AM THE ESTIMATE TO REOPEN THE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATE OF
9:34:28AM FLORIDA WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $3.4 BILLION ANNUALLY.
9:34:33AM SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING THE STATE, ACTUALLY HAVING TO FIGHT
9:34:37AM WITH THE STATE TO SAVE MONEY.
9:34:39AM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS REDESIGN.
9:34:43AM IT CAME ABOUT AS AN AMENDMENT DURING CONFERENCE.
9:34:47AM YET APD AND AHCA HAD BEEN MEETING FOR MONTHS PRIOR TO THIS
9:34:54AM AMENDMENT.
9:34:54AM NOW EVERYTHING IS ON THE FAST TRACK, AND WE WERE NEVER
9:34:57AM INVITED EXCEPT TO ONE PUBLIC MEETING IN JULY.
9:35:00AM AND AT THAT POINT, PEOPLE WERE ASKED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND
9:35:03AM THEY SUBMITTED THEM.
9:35:06AM APD AND AHCA TRIED TO KEEP THAT OUT OF THE PUBLIC REALM.
9:35:09AM THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE MOST
9:35:11AM VULNERABLE OF THE VULNERABLE.
9:35:13AM COMPRISING ONLY 0.15% OF OUR TOTAL POPULATION HERE IN
9:35:18AM FLORIDA.
9:35:19AM THAT'S 34,500 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RECEIVING SERVICES.
9:35:26AM THERE ARE ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY 22,000 PEOPLE ON A WAITING
9:35:29AM LIST, AND THEY'RE NOT WAITING JUST FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS OR
9:35:33AM YEARS BUT DECADES.
9:35:34AM WE CURRENTLY RANK 50th IN THE NATION.
9:35:38AM THAT'S WHAT I PASSED OUT TO ALL OF YOU.
9:35:42AM IN FUNDING.
9:35:43AM ADVOCATES, THE APD AND NATIONAL EXPERTS HAVE TRIED TO
9:35:46AM EXPLAIN THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE BUDGET PREDICTABILITY IS TO
9:35:52AM BUILD IN AN ANNUAL INCREASE, AND YET EVERY YEAR THEY
9:35:55AM CONTINUE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF FLORIDA'S
9:35:59AM MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.
9:36:00AM OF WE CAN DO BETTER.
9:36:03AM MY ONLY QUESTION TO YOU IS FLORIDA MORE FISCALLY BANKRUPT OR
9:36:08AM MORALLY BANKRUPT?
9:36:09AM I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO OPPOSE ANY CUTS TO THIS MEDICAID,
9:36:16AM THEY CALL IT THE I BUDGET OR HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED
9:36:20AM SERVICE WAIVER.
9:36:20AM I'M ALSO ASKING THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL SIGN ON TO AN
9:36:24AM ORGANIZATIONAL LETTER THAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR THE GOVERNOR
9:36:26AM AND ALL OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE LEGISLATURE SO THAT THEY
9:36:30AM KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS NOT ONLY OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE
9:36:34AM OPPOSED TO ANY CUTS TO THIS WAIVER, BUT ALSO ORGANIZATIONS
9:36:37AM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
9:36:38AM THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:36:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, KAREN.
9:36:43AM I KNOW SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL CHIME IN.
9:36:45AM I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION ON IT AT THE END.
9:36:47AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
9:36:48AM I KNOW THIS CAUSE IS VERY PERSONAL TO US WITH YOUR WONDERFUL
9:36:51AM SON MIKE AND MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN WHO IS DEVELOPMENTALLY
9:36:58AM DISABLED.
9:36:58AM SOMETHING I SAW MY PARENTS LIVE WITH ALL THEIR LIVES AND SEE
9:37:02AM PEOPLE LIVE WITH STILL.
9:37:03AM IT MAKES ME ANGRY.
9:37:05AM EVERY YEAR I READ ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR
9:37:07AM CUTTING TAXES BY $250 MILLION A YEAR, KAREN, WE KNOW WHERE
9:37:11AM THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM.
9:37:13AM I ALWAYS SAY, I'VE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES AND SAY IT
9:37:16AM HERE, WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE HAVE THE
9:37:19AM POPULATION FROM CALIFORNIA, BUT WE GOT THE LEGISLATURE FROM
9:37:22AM MISSISSIPPI WHENEVER IT COMES TO ISSUES LIKE THIS.
9:37:25AM MAKES ME ANGRY.
9:37:26AM SHOULD MAKE US ALL ANGRY AND WHY WE SHOULD DEMAND CHANGE.
9:37:30AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:37:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO QUICKLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
9:37:33AM LEADERSHIP AND ALL THE EDUCATION YOU PROVIDE IN THE
9:37:35AM COMMUNITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOUR COMPASSION FOR EVERYONE
9:37:39AM WHO HAS SPECIAL NEEDS AND HOW YOU CARE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND
9:37:42AM KEEP US AWARE OF THESE ISSUES.
9:37:45AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:37:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS
9:37:50AM ISSUE.
9:37:51AM YOU'RE A CHAMPION OF THOSE WITH DISABILITIES.
9:37:53AM I KNOW MS. CLAY A WHILE.
9:37:56AM I KNOW HER FIGHT.
9:37:57AM SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN A FIGHTER ON THESE ISSUES.
9:38:00AM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THINGS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND
9:38:03AM THEM.
9:38:07AM I HAVE A FAMILY WITH DISABILITIES, MY FATHER.
9:38:08AM I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU ARE A CAREGIVER, PEOPLE DON'T
9:38:15AM UNDERSTAND THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL STRAIN WHEN YOU ARE A
9:38:17AM CAREGIVER OF A CHILD OR ADULT.
9:38:19AM IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN YOUR DAILY
9:38:24AM LIFE WELL AND YOUR HEALTH.
9:38:25AM AGAIN, I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR EFFORTS.
9:38:30AM I'M A GREAT SUPPORTER AND A PERSON WITH EXPERIENCE, I KNOW
9:38:35AM WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
9:38:36AM KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT, MS. CLAY.
9:38:40AM >> THANK YOU, I WILL.
9:38:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL BE MAKING THE MOTION AT THE END.
9:38:43AM I WANT TO COMMEND YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT
9:38:45AM PHILOSOPHICAL TRADITION OF THE ROOSEVELT, TRUMAN, KENNEDY,
9:38:48AM JOHNSON, HUMPHREY, THAT'S YOU, KAREN CLAY.
9:38:51AM I MEAN IT.
9:38:52AM >> WE CAN AND SHOULD DO BETTER.
9:38:54AM WE'RE ACTUALLY RANKED AS THE SECOND-MOST FISCALLY SOUND
9:38:59AM ECONOMY IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE HAVE THE NINTH STRONGEST
9:39:02AM ECONOMY IN THIS COUNTRY AND YET WE REFUSE TO DO BETTER FOR
9:39:06AM THE DISABLED OF OUR STATE.
9:39:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:39:09AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:39:10AM THANK YOU, KAREN.
9:39:11AM NEXT, WE MOVE ONWARD TO TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:39:15AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
9:39:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS HERE, SOUTHWEST
9:39:23AM FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ALSO TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:39:26AM WHO'S GOING TO GO FIRST?
9:39:27AM THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO DO SHORT PRESENTATION ON THESE THE
9:39:38AM REGIONAL CONTEXT.
9:39:39AM YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M A REGIONALIST.
9:39:41AM I TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COORDINATE REGION-WIDE ON ISSUES
9:39:45AM AND THAT WE'RE SENSITIVE OF REGIONAL ISSUES.
9:39:47AM SINCE WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ON WATER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO,
9:39:51AM THIS WAS THE SOONEST WE COULD GET ON THE SCHEDULE.
9:39:53AM JUST TO HAVE THEM PRESENT WHAT THE REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE IS
9:39:56AM ON WATER.
9:40:04AM >> CAN SOMEBODY LOAD THE PRESENTATION?
9:40:05AM JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M AMANDA RICE FROM THE SOUTHWEST
9:40:15AM FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
9:40:17AM I'M THE ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
9:40:19AM AND BRIAN ARM STRONG, OUR E.D., ASKED ME TO APOLOGIZE.
9:40:24AM HE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE, BUT HE HAD APPOINTMENTS IN
9:40:26AM TALLAHASSEE TODAY.
9:40:27AM IN CASE YOU AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH US, WE ARE ONE OF FIVE
9:40:33AM WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:40:36AM WE ARE CREATED BY STATUTE.
9:40:38AM WE REPRESENT 16 COUNTIES, ALL A PART OF 16 COUNTIES.
9:40:45AM AND WE'RE ONE OF BIG THREE.
9:40:46AM THERE ARE FIVE, BUT THREE QUITE LARGE ONES, US, ST. JOHNS
9:40:50AM AND THEN THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
9:40:53AM WE HAVE FOUR AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY SHOWN HERE.
9:40:58AM WATER SUPPLY, WATER QUALITY, NATURAL SYSTEMS AND FLOOD
9:41:01AM PROTECTION.
9:41:02AM AS PART OF OUR WATER SUPPLY FUNCTION, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS
9:41:10AM THAT WE DO IS REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.
9:41:13AM SO THIS REQUIREMENT OF US IS DEFINED BY STATUTE.
9:41:17AM EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE DO HAVE TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL WATER
9:41:21AM SUPPLY PLAN THAT LOOKS AT DEMANDS, ENVIRONMENTAL
9:41:23AM CONSTRAINTS, STRATEGIES TO MEET THE DEMANDS, AND OUR LATEST
9:41:28AM UPDATE IS ACTUALLY DUE NEXT YEAR.
9:41:31AM IT'S BEING PREPARED RIGHT NOW.
9:41:33AM SO THIS IS A BIG OF A SNEAK PEEK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
9:41:40AM SEEING IN OUR REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PLAN UPDATE, FOUR
9:41:46AM DEMANDS.
9:41:47AM THIS GRAPHIC IS FOR THE PUBLIC SUPPLY SECTOR ONLY.
9:41:49AM WE DO DEVELOP DEMAND PROJECTIONS FOR MANY OTHER SECTORS,
9:41:53AM INCLUDING AGRICULTURE, INDUSTRIAL, MINING, AND SO FORTH.
9:41:56AM BUT THIS IS JUST FOR PUBLIC SUPPLY, SUPPLIED THROUGH
9:42:01AM UTILITIES.
9:42:01AM THIS IS ALSO ORGANIZED BY REGION.
9:42:03AM YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE ARE EXPECTING ABOUT 105 MGD,
9:42:08AM MILLION GALLONS PER DAY INCREASE, FOR REGIONAL DEMANDS
9:42:11AM BETWEEN 2020 AND 2040.
9:42:13AM AND WELCOME HALF OF THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE TAMPA BAY
9:42:17AM REGION.
9:42:17AM BUT WE DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS.
9:42:22AM THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD TO DATE.
9:42:27AM THIS GRAPH, THE BLUE BARS ARE GROUNDWATER USE.
9:42:31AM THE GREEN LINE IS POPULATION GROWTH, AND THE ORANGE LINE IS
9:42:35AM TOTAL WATER USE.
9:42:37AM SO THAT INCLUDES OTHER SUPPLY SOURCES, ALTERNATIVE WATER
9:42:40AM SUPPLY, SURFACE WATER AND SO FORTH.
9:42:42AM YOU CAN SEE THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT POPULATION HAS REALLY
9:42:45AM INCREASED, WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THAT THROUGH DEMAND
9:42:50AM REDUCTIONS.
9:42:51AM AND THAT'S BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BY CONSERVATION EFFORTS, THE
9:42:55AM DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY, AND ALSO
9:43:01AM CONSERVATION ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY AND A VERY LARGE
9:43:04AM RECLAIMED WATER NETWORK ACROSS OUR 16 COUNTIES.
9:43:07AM BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN MEET THIS NEW
9:43:12AM DEMAND COMING THROUGH OUR COOPERATIVE FUNDING INITIATIVE AND
9:43:17AM OUR COOPERATORS.
9:43:19AM SO IN THE PAST, TAMPA BAY WATER, WE HAVE INVESTED
9:43:22AM $315 MILLION, AND THE SISTER REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITY
9:43:28AM DOWN SOUTH, THE PEACE RIVER MANASOTA REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY
9:43:31AM AUTHORITY, WE'VE INVESTED $136 MILLION TO DATE.
9:43:36AM AND OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS, ON AVERAGE, OUR ANNUAL
9:43:40AM COOPERATIVE FUNDING INITIATIVE BUDGETING HAS BEEN
9:43:43AM $51 MILLION PER YEAR.
9:43:46AM WE EXPECT THAT IN ORDER TO MEET THIS LARGE DEMAND PROJECTION
9:43:51AM COMING OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, OUR COOPERATIVE FUNDING
9:43:55AM INITIATIVE SPENDING IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP OVER THE NEXT
9:43:58AM TEN YEARS BY ABOUT ANOTHER $20 MILLION.
9:44:02AM SO ABOUT $70 MILLION PER YEAR FOR COOPERATIVE FUNDING.
9:44:06AM THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY US DOING A LITTLE BIT OF
9:44:11AM PRIORITIZATION ON OUR MORE TRADITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE
9:44:14AM COMING IN IN ORDER TO GET THESE LARGE WATER SUPPLY
9:44:17AM INITIATIVES BUILT.
9:44:19AM SO WE DO HAVE A BOARD WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 10th
9:44:25AM AT OUR BROOKSVILLE OFFICE AT 9 A.M., WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE
9:44:29AM TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY
9:44:32AM INITIATIVES THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED ACROSS OUR REGION.
9:44:35AM WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS FOR OUR
9:44:38AM BOARD, TALKING ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL ENGINE AND WHAT THEY CAN
9:44:41AM EXPECT OVER TIME.
9:44:43AM SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION ON THESE
9:44:46AM ISSUES.
9:44:46AM SO THIS IS A SLIDE JUST TO SHOW SOME ADVANTAGES OF
9:44:54AM REGIONALISM THAT WE'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF WATER SUPPLY
9:44:56AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:44:57AM ANOTHER ONE THAT'S NOT SHOWN HERE IS INTEGRATION OF A
9:45:01AM DIVERSE SUPPLY SOURCES IN AN AREA THAT REALLY GIVES THE
9:45:06AM ABILITY TO ROTATE THE SUPPLIES TO DEAL WITH CLIMATIC
9:45:09AM CHANGES, ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES, AND ALSO EMERGENCY
9:45:12AM CONDITIONS.
9:45:12AM SO WE GET ECONOMY OF SCALE, COST-EFFECTIVENESS, REGIONALISM
9:45:18AM HAS REALLY BEEN PROVEN TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE WATER
9:45:22AM MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING LARGE-SCALE
9:45:26AM WATER SUPPLY INITIATIVES.
9:45:27AM IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON
9:45:34AM REGIONALISM, OUR BOARD HAS PREPARED A COOPERATIVE FUNDING
9:45:39AM POLICY THAT GUIDES OUR STAFF.
9:45:41AM SO THIS POLICY DEFINES MULTIJURISDICTIONAL AGENCIES, LIKE
9:45:46AM REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITIES, AND DIRECTS US TO
9:45:50AM PRIORITIZE FUNDING FOR THOSE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL ENTITIES.
9:45:54AM AND, IN FACT, IT STATES THAT IF A MEMBER GOVERNMENT OF A
9:45:59AM REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITY PROPOSES A POTABLE WATER
9:46:03AM SUPPLY PROJECT, IT MUST BE SUBMITTED BY THE REGIONAL WATER
9:46:07AM SUPPLY AUTHORITY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR DISTRICT FUNDING.
9:46:09AM SO I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE FOUR AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY.
9:46:16AM ANOTHER THAT I MENTIONED IS FLOOD PROTECTION.
9:46:20AM WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND VERY IMPACTFUL
9:46:23AM PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT SOME OF THEM ARE
9:46:26AM ONGOING.
9:46:26AM OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD 11 PROJECTS WITH THE
9:46:30AM CITY, TOTALING $33.5 MILLION IN DISTRICT FUNDING.
9:46:33AM FOUR OF THOSE ARE ONGOING.
9:46:35AM THEY ARE SHOWN THERE AS OUR FLOOD PROTECTION PROJECTS.
9:46:40AM REALLY SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR VALUES ON THESE PROJECTS, BUT ALSO
9:46:42AM REALLY SIGNIFICANT, POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS OF
9:46:47AM TAMPA.
9:46:48AM SO FISCAL YEAR '21 APPLICATIONS JUST CAME IN IN EARLY
9:46:52AM OCTOBER.
9:46:53AM THOSE ARE BEING REVIEWED NOW.
9:46:55AM WE DO HAVE THREE REQUESTS FOR THE ONGOING PROJECTS TO FINISH
9:46:58AM THOSE, AND ALSO A NEW PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE CITY
9:47:02AM OF TAMPA, AN ADDITIONAL FLOOD PROTECTION PROJECT.
9:47:06AM OUR BOARD REALLY DOES ENJOY FUNDING THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE
9:47:09AM THEY REALLY DO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE CITIZENS.
9:47:12AM AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A GREAT PARTNER TO
9:47:15AM US.
9:47:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:47:19AM WHY DON'T WE HAVE TAMPA BAY WATER PRESENT AND THEN WE'LL ASK
9:47:21AM QUESTIONS.
9:47:22AM >> ALL RIGHT.
9:47:22AM THANK YOU.
9:47:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:47:34AM I'M MATT JORDAN WITH TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:47:37AM I HAVE SOME COPIES OF MY PowerPoint, IF YOU NEED THEM.
9:47:40AM HAPPY TO MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE.
9:47:42AM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU -- GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR
9:47:50AM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:47:51AM I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF TAMPA BAY
9:47:53AM WATER.
9:47:53AM BUT I FIRST WANTED TO START WITH GOING TO -- JUST A BRIEF
9:48:04AM HISTORY OF WHERE WE STARTED BACK IN 1998, SIX-MEMBER
9:48:10AM GOVERNMENTS, AFTER TWO YEARS OF NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE
9:48:14AM CREATED IN 1998 TO BE A TRUE REGIONAL SYSTEM.
9:48:19AM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS INCLUDE THE COUNTIES OF HILLSBOROUGH,
9:48:23AM PASCO, AND PINELLAS, ALONG WITH THE CITIES OF NEW PORT
9:48:27AM RICHEY, ST. PETERSBURG, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:48:30AM AS PART OF THE FORMATION OF TAMPA BAY WATER, ALL THE MEMBER
9:48:36AM GOVERNMENTS RELINQUISHED THEIR SIGNIFICANT GROUNDWATER
9:48:40AM SUPPLIES.
9:48:40AM WE PURCHASED THEM FROM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
9:48:43AM YOU CAN SEE THIS SLIDE DEPICTS WHAT TAMPA BAY WATER IS
9:48:55AM TODAY.
9:48:55AM BACK IN 1998, WE WERE AN IDEA.
9:48:58AM WE WERE GIVEN THIS CHARGE TO BUILD A TRUE REGIONAL SYSTEM.
9:49:02AM WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND IT SERVED US WELL OVER
9:49:05AM THE LAST 20 YEARS.
9:49:08AM WE STARTED OFF.
9:49:09AM WE WERE 100% GROUNDWATER.
9:49:11AM AND NOW WE HAVE THREE WATER SOURCES.
9:49:14AM SURFACE WATER AND DESALINATED SEAWATER.
9:49:18AM THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT WE ARE VERY -- HAVE A VERY ROBUST
9:49:23AM SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT HELPS US ALONG WITH OUR RESERVOIR THAT
9:49:27AM HOLDS 15.5 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER TO GET THROUGH THE DRY
9:49:31AM TIMES.
9:49:31AM THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN TESTED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
9:49:38AM MOST RECENTLY, IN 2017, WE WENT THROUGH A RECORD DRY PERIOD,
9:49:46AM AND WE PROVIDED ALL THE WATER NEEDED BY ALL SIX MEMBER
9:49:51AM GOVERNMENTS AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM.
9:49:57AM THIS SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR WATER SOURCES OVER THE
9:50:02AM LAST YEAR.
9:50:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU, SIR.
9:50:05AM THAT MEANS YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:50:07AM HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE?
9:50:09AM >> JUST VERY SHORT.
9:50:11AM I CAN SUMMARIZE IT QUICKLY.
9:50:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE THAT.
9:50:14AM >> SO THAT JUST SHOWS OUR DISTRIBUTION.
9:50:20AM WE CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE REGION'S NEEDS THROUGH OUR
9:50:27AM LONG-TERM MASTER WATER PLAN.
9:50:28AM IT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
9:50:31AM THE BOARD JUST APPROVED THAT UPDATE IN DECEMBER OF '18.
9:50:35AM THE DESALINATION EXPANSION, SURFACE WATER EXPANSION,
9:50:40AM ADDITIONAL GROUNDWATER --
9:50:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: TWO MINUTES.
9:50:45AM YOU CAN TAKE TWO MINUTES.
9:50:47AM >> THANK YOU.
9:50:48AM INDIVIDUALLY, THESE ARE THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE PLAN TO
9:50:53AM CONTINUE TO VET OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE SURE
9:50:58AM WE HAVE TAKEN THE MOST RELIABLE, COST-EFFECTIVE, AND
9:51:01AM SUSTAINABLE PROJECT.
9:51:02AM INDIVIDUALLY, EACH OF THESE PROJECTS HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR
9:51:07AM BEING EXPANDED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WATER IN THE FUTURE.
9:51:12AM AS PART OF OUR MASTER WATER PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING AT REGIONAL
9:51:22AM DEMAND MANAGEMENT AS WELL.
9:51:23AM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT BUILDING NEW SUPPLIES.
9:51:25AM WE LOOK AT SEVERAL THINGS.
9:51:27AM ONE OF THOSE IS DEMAND MANAGEMENT.
9:51:29AM WHAT CAN WE DO THROUGH CONSERVATION TO SAVE THE RESOURCES OF
9:51:33AM FLORIDA AND REALIZE JUST THROUGH CONSERVATION MEASURES WE
9:51:39AM HAVE A NEW PROGRAM WORKING WITH EACH MEMBER GOVERNMENT THAT
9:51:44AM WANTS TO PARTICIPATE TO BE ABLE TO HELP FUND YOUR
9:51:46AM CONSERVATION PROJECTS.
9:51:47AM WE HOPE TO SAVE OVER 11 MILLION GALLONS BETWEEN NOW AND
9:51:51AM 2030.
9:51:52AM WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING SYSTEM TO SEE WHAT WE
9:51:56AM CAN DO TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
9:52:00AM ANY BOTTLENECKS OR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE CAN UPGRADE OUR
9:52:03AM FILTERS AT OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THEN WE CAN
9:52:06AM GET MORE CAPACITY, SPENDING VERY LITTLE MONEY.
9:52:09AM JUST I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WATER QUALITY.
9:52:14AM OUR WATER QUALITY, WE CERTAINLY MEET ALL STATE AND FEDERAL
9:52:18AM REQUIREMENTS.
9:52:19AM WE ALSO HAVE REQUIREMENTS UNDER WHAT WE CALL EXHIBIT D.
9:52:22AM THESE ARE PARAMETERS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY OR APPROVED BY
9:52:25AM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
9:52:26AM WE DO MEET THOSE, AND WE MONITOR THOSE AND REPORT TO THE
9:52:31AM BOARD AND THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
9:52:33AM WE ARE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS TO LOOK AT OUR WATER QUALITY,
9:52:37AM SEE IF WE CAN MAKE GOOD WATER QUALITY EVEN BETTER.
9:52:39AM WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT EVALUATION.
9:52:41AM YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT.
9:52:44AM WE'RE INCLUDING THE FIRST ROUND OF THE STUDY, AND WE'LL BE
9:52:47AM MOVING FORWARD, WORKING -- CONTINUING TO WORK WITH ALL THE
9:52:49AM MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO OUR BOARD.
9:52:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO TAKE 45 SECONDS TO FINISH UP,
9:52:58AM YOU MAY.
9:52:59AM >> ACTUALLY, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE AREAS THAT I WANTED TO
9:53:02AM COVER.
9:53:02AM THE NEXT SLIDE IS QUESTIONS.
9:53:04AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS
9:53:08AM THOSE.
9:53:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:53:09AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:53:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA -- I SEE
9:53:14AM THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS HERE.
9:53:16AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D
9:53:18AM LIKE TO SAY.
9:53:20AM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OUT OF LINE, BUT HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO
9:53:24AM YOU SERVE?
9:53:26AM >> WELL, INCLUDE THE CITY OF TAMPA, 2.3, 2.4 MILLION.
9:53:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CUSTOMERS.
9:53:32AM SIX.
9:53:33AM >> YES, SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
9:53:34AM WE'RE WHOLESALE, YES.
9:53:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFERENT OR
9:53:39AM DIFFICULT.
9:53:39AM I'M NOT THAT WAY.
9:53:40AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, EVERY YEAR -- I SAT THERE FROM 1998
9:53:45AM TO PRESENT, MINUS FOUR YEARS THAT MAYOR IORIO SAT THERE.
9:53:50AM I ALWAYS VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU
9:53:57AM ADVERTISE.
9:53:58AM I ALWAYS SAID, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY WHEN YOU ONLY
9:54:01AM HAVE SIX CUSTOMERS?
9:54:04AM NOT 600,000.
9:54:05AM YOU'RE SMILING BECAUSE I'M SMILING.
9:54:07AM WHEN YOU GO GET GAS AT THE GAS STATION, ASK YOURSELF THIS
9:54:11AM QUESTION, DO YOU SAY,
9:54:13AM I HAVE GAS BUT I WONDER WHERE THE OIL CAME FROM TO MAKE THE
9:54:16AM GAS?
9:54:16AM IF YOU DO, RAISE YOUR HAND.
9:54:19AM WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT, WHERE YOU HAVE TO SPEND -- AND I
9:54:24AM GOT THIS THE OTHER DAY IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, WHICH IS VERY
9:54:27AM NICELY DONE, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE SIX CUSTOMERS.
9:54:31AM WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE YOURSELF?
9:54:32AM IF I ONLY HAD SIX VOTES, DO YOU THINK I'D SPEND 50, 60, 70
9:54:38AM THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET ELECTED?
9:54:40AM ABSOLUTELY NOT.
9:54:40AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS, GET THAT MONEY AND PUT IT TO
9:54:44AM SOMEBODY WHO MAY NEED A WATER CREDIT, DOESN'T HAVE THE
9:54:47AM MONEY, JUST LIKE DONATELLO DID AND TRY TO HELP THE PEOPLE
9:54:50AM WHO REALLY NEED IT.
9:54:52AM ALL OF US FORGET AND SOME OF US REMEMBER, THAT'S ONE OF THE
9:54:57AM THINGS THAT JUST GETS UNDER MY SKIN THAT WE'RE SPENDING
9:55:00AM MONEY ON ADVERTISING WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO.
9:55:03AM THAT'S MY OPINION.
9:55:04AM AND, BY THE WAY, THAT'S THE OPINION OF ONE, NOT OF THE OTHER
9:55:08AM EIGHT MEMBERS.
9:55:10AM I'LL BE VERY UPFRONT.
9:55:11AM I LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, AND THEN THE GOOD PEOPLE FROM
9:55:15AM S.W.F.W.M.D. BROUGHT UP RECLAIMED WATER.
9:55:18AM I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DEBATE WITH BOTH OF YOU, BUT I'D
9:55:28AM LIKE TO SEE BOTH OF YOU MEET WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:55:31AM IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT, WHAT WE SAW IS STARTING TO COME
9:55:34AM AROUND AGAIN.
9:55:35AM WHEN IT WAS -- NOT TAMPA BAY WATER, WHEN IT WAS WEST COAST,
9:55:40AM THAT WAS WHEN THE WARS WERE ON BETWEEN GOVERNMENTS AND
9:55:44AM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE THROWN
9:55:46AM AWAY OF PUBLIC FUNDS FIGHTING EACH OTHER.
9:55:50AM GOVERNMENT FIGHTING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT.
9:55:51AM I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT ERA, BUT THERE IS A
9:55:54AM POSSIBILITY THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME UP, WHETHER BY
9:55:57AM GOVERNMENT OR BY PEOPLE WHO DO THAT.
9:55:59AM I HAVE A PROBLEM PERSONALLY WHEN I PAY A TAX, AND I CANNOT
9:56:04AM GET THAT DIRECT LINE, WHETHER I GET A REFUND OR NOT, DOESN'T
9:56:11AM MATTER.
9:56:12AM I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER AGENCY WHO IS NEVER -- NEVER SERVED
9:56:18AM AN ELECTED BODY, TO GET THEIR PERMISSION AND THEY HAVE TO
9:56:21AM OKAY IT TO SET IT UP FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.
9:56:23AM I REALLY BELIEVE IN TAXATION AND REPRESENTATION GO ONE IN
9:56:26AM HAND.
9:56:26AM AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT BOTHER ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
9:56:30AM THAT'S WHY I VOTE CONSISTENTLY AGAINST THAT.
9:56:32AM I'M NOT SAYING I'M RIGHT.
9:56:34AM I'M SAYING THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
9:56:36AM I GUARANTEE YOU, IF I ASK THE PUBLIC BEHIND TO YOU RAISE
9:56:39AM THEIR HAND, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
9:56:42AM AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG.
9:56:44AM BUT I GOT TO COMPETE -- I, MEANING THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE
9:56:48AM HAVE TO COMPETE FOR THE SAME DOLLARS AS ANYONE ELSE.
9:56:51AM WE HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST YOUR ENTITY, SIR, GREAT ENTITY,
9:56:55AM TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:56:55AM BUT I HAVE TO GET THE APPROVAL OF TAMPA BAY WATER TO SUBMIT
9:56:58AM TO S.W.F.W.M.D. TO GET SOMETHING BACK.
9:57:00AM IF NOT, THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK AT IT.
9:57:03AM THAT'S THE WAY I THINK THE SYSTEM WORKS.
9:57:04AM AND I'M JUST VETTING IT OUT NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN MY
9:57:10AM THROAT AND I'M CHOKING.
9:57:12AM I JUST GOTTA SAY WHAT I GOTTA SAY.
9:57:15AM IT IS THE SAME THING AS GIVING FELONS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
9:57:18AM YOU GET OUT, OH, YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR RESTITUTION.
9:57:21AM HOW CAN THEY PAY RESTITUTION?
9:57:22AM THEY SERVED 15 YEARS IN JAIL.
9:57:25AM WHERE DO THEY GET THE MONEY AT?
9:57:26AM I'M NOT COMPARING TO THAT LEVEL YET, BUT IT JUST BOTHERS ME
9:57:30AM THAT BY POLICY WE DO THAT.
9:57:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:57:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:57:34AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:57:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:57:37AM SIR, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AS WELL AS S.W.F.W.M.D.'S
9:57:45AM REPRESENTATIVE.
9:57:46AM I THINK MOST OF US WERE AROUND, AS MR. MIRANDA MENTIONED,
9:57:52AM DURING THE WATER WARS, AND IT WASN'T PRETTY.
9:57:58AM I WAS OVER IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THE TIME, AND
9:58:01AM THAT'S NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT SHOULD OPERATE.
9:58:03AM FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER IS NOT THE WAY.
9:58:05AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR BEFORE I SAY WHAT I
9:58:09AM SAY, THAT I HAVEN'T TAKEN A POSITION ON THE REUSE ISSUE
9:58:13AM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
9:58:15AM I HAVEN'T TAKEN A FORMAL POSITION, AND I'M NOT TAKING ONE
9:58:20AM TODAY, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE HERE AND S.W.F.W.M.D. IS HERE
9:58:25AM AND MR. BAIRD IS HERE, I DO -- IT DOES STRIKE ME CURIOUSLY.
9:58:35AM ON THE ONE HAND, THE DISTRICT SAYS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY MORE
9:58:38AM WATER SOURCES.
9:58:40AM NICE LADY IS NODDING HER HEAD.
9:58:42AM AND THAT'S OBVIOUS.
9:58:44AM WE HAVE GROWTH.
9:58:45AM WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WATER SOURCES OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S
9:58:49AM CONSERVATION AS A SOURCE.
9:58:51AM IT'S A LEGITIMATE SOURCE.
9:58:52AM IT'S WORKED PRETTY WELL FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OR OTHER
9:58:58AM MEANS.
9:58:59AM THE DISTRICT HAS A RULE THAT SAYS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PART
9:59:02AM OF A MEMBER ORGANIZATION, LIKE WE ARE, AND WE WANT AN
9:59:06AM ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DISTRICT, WE
9:59:09AM NEED TO GET SORT OF PERMISSION OR AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF
9:59:13AM VOTES FROM TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:59:15AM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD A LITTLE
9:59:18AM TROUBLE WITH THAT.
9:59:19AM AS CHARLIE SAYS, I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT IT AND WON'T
9:59:22AM ASK YOU TELL.
9:59:24AM MR. BAIRD, AND HIS TEAM, OVER MANY, MANY YEARS, I THINK BRAD
9:59:27AM SAYS PROBABLY BEEN 25 YEARS, HIS ENTIRE CAREER WITH THE
9:59:32AM CITY, HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THIS REUSE PLAN TO SHIP WATER
9:59:37AM FROM THE TREATMENT PLANT BACK UP TO THE RESERVOIR, INJECT
9:59:41AM IT, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND REUSE IT IN THAT WAY.
9:59:46AM BUT -- AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TAKING SIDES ON THIS, MR. CARLSON.
9:59:50AM I JUST WANT TO DO FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT IN PUBLIC.
9:59:55AM BUT WE HIT A STUMBLING POINT.
9:59:57AM MR. BAIRD HIT A STUMBLING POINT.
9:59:59AM MR. MIRANDA HIT A STUMBLING POINT WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT TO
10:00:06AM YOUR GROUP OF SIX MEMBERS WHO APPARENTLY HAVE OBJECTIONS TO
10:00:08AM IT.
10:00:09AM I'M HAVING TROUBLE CONCEPTUALLY WITH THAT, NOT ON THE LEGAL
10:00:14AM SIDE.
10:00:15AM I CAN HANDLE ALL THE LEGAL ARGUMENTS ALL DAY LONG BUT I
10:00:18AM DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS US TO GET INTO THOSE
10:00:21AM LEGAL BATTLES AGAIN.
10:00:22AM BUT JUST CONCEPTUALLY I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH WHY ANY MEMBER
10:00:27AM GOVERNMENTS WOULD HAVE TROUBLE WITH ANOTHER MEMBER
10:00:29AM GOVERNMENT TRYING TO FIND A FUTURE WATER USE LIKE THAT.
10:00:37AM >> WE HAVE, AS FAR AS TAMPA BAY WATER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING
10:00:41AM THROUGH, YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, VARIETY OF COMMITTEES,
10:00:45AM WHETHER IT WAS UTILITY DIRECTORS OF ALL THE MEMBER
10:00:48AM GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING TAMPA BAY WATER STAFF AND SOME OF
10:00:51AM THESE IN OUR MASTER WATER PLAN.
10:00:54AM WE ALSO HAD THE ATTORNEYS FROM ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS
10:00:57AM WORKING AND LOOKING AT THESE QUESTIONS AND HOW COULD THESE
10:01:01AM THINGS BE DONE AND INTERPRETING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT
10:01:04AM WHICH IS ONE OF OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS THAT WE AGREED TO
10:01:08AM FOLLOW.
10:01:08AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, WORKING TOGETHER AND
10:01:11AM STUDYING THIS.
10:01:12AM THE BOARD WAS CONTEMPLATING THAT AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS.
10:01:17AM THERE ARE CERTAINLY VARIOUS OPINIONS.
10:01:20AM CURRENTLY, THE PROPOSAL WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE CITY.
10:01:24AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
10:01:27AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT I GUESS I NEED
10:01:31AM A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION IN TERMS OF THE JUSTIFICATION OF
10:01:35AM OTHER MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
10:01:36AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LEGAL DOCUMENTS.
10:01:39AM I'M A LAWYER, I CAN HANDLE THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE
10:01:41AM PUBLIC WANTS THAT TO BE THE DECISION MAKER.
10:01:45AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RATIONALE, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR A
10:01:52AM SISTER MEMBER GOVERNMENT ACROSS THE BAY OR VARIOUS MEMBER
10:01:56AM GOVERNMENTS IN YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT COULD OPPOSE THE
10:01:59AM OPPORTUNITY FOR TEN -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, 20, 30 MGD OF
10:02:07AM REUSE.
10:02:08AM WHEREAS, THERE'S A LOT OF REUSE GOING ON ALL OVER.
10:02:12AM I SAW IT ON THE YOUNG LADY'S GRAPH.
10:02:17AM I THINK GENERALLY THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.
10:02:19AM THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER HANDLE OF
10:02:22AM CONCEPTUALLY, IS THIS JUST A LEGAL ARGUMENT?
10:02:27AM IS THIS A FINANCIAL ARGUMENT?
10:02:29AM OR IS THIS A PHILOSOPHICAL OR PERHAPS ENVIRONMENTAL
10:02:32AM ARGUMENT?
10:02:32AM THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET A GRIP ON.
10:02:36AM >> YES, SIR.
10:02:36AM I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
10:02:39AM BACK A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT OUR MASTER
10:02:43AM WATER PLAN TO INCLUDE, LOOK, COULD WE INCLUDE RECLAIM AS
10:02:49AM PART OF OUR MASTER WATER PLAN?
10:02:50AM THROUGH OUR MEMBER GOVERNMENT WORKING GROUP WITH ALL MEMBER
10:02:53AM GOVERNMENT STAFF, WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS AND
10:02:57AM ULTIMATELY IT WAS PROPOSED THAT WE SHOULD ADD TO THE MASTER
10:03:01AM WATER PLAN THE TAMPA AUGMENTATION PROJECT.
10:03:05AM AND, OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME, IT WAS, I THINK, A DIFFERENT
10:03:08AM PHASE OF IT, EARLIER PHASE OF TAP.
10:03:11AM AND WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO INCLUDE SHARP, WHICH IS THE
10:03:15AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY INJECTION, THE COAST.
10:03:20AM WE CONTINUED WORKING THROUGH THOSE.
10:03:24AM LAST FALL, I THINK IT WAS, THE TAP -- AND TAP HAD CHANGED TO
10:03:27AM THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, DURING THIS TIME, AND WE
10:03:31AM UNDERSTAND THAT WATER -- OR THAT WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
10:03:34AM WE WERE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT WAY OF USING THAT RECLAIMED
10:03:37AM WATER.
10:03:39AM AS FAR AS CAN WE LOOK AT ALTERNATE WATER SUPPLIES AND HOW
10:03:42AM CAN WE DO IT, THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE
10:03:45AM SHARP PROJECT IS STILL ONE OF THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WAS
10:03:47AM RANKED, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY VETTING THAT ALONG WITH THE
10:03:54AM OTHER TWO PROJECTS TO SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US.
10:03:56AM BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME PROMISE THERE.
10:03:58AM IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A GOOD PROJECT.
10:04:01AM WE STILL HAVE TO FINALIZE SOME AGREEMENTS WITH HILLSBOROUGH
10:04:05AM COUNTY, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS WE HAVE MOVING
10:04:08AM FORWARD.
10:04:08AM SO WE ARE LOOKING -- WE LOOKED AT BOTH OF THOSE.
10:04:11AM WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT SHARP.
10:04:12AM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATE WATER SUPPLIES AND HOW THE
10:04:15AM REGION CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE.
10:04:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WE HAVE A
10:04:21AM 10:00 TO BREAK FOR STAFF REPORTS.
10:04:22AM WE HAVE AN ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF STAFF REPORTS.
10:04:24AM I'M GOING TO ASK THIS TO END IN ABOUT TWO OR THREE MINUTES.
10:04:28AM OR IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT UP AFTER STAFF REPORTS, THAT'S
10:04:32AM FINE.
10:04:32AM LET'S AT LEAST INTERVENE RIGHT NOW.
10:04:35AM GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:04:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'LL JUST CLOSE BY SAYING I KNOW
10:04:40AM WE'VE PULLED OUT OF THAT TEMPORARILY, BUT I THINK IT WAS
10:04:43AM MORE OR LESS OUT OF FRUSTRATION THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
10:04:45AM WE DON'T WANT TO LITIGATE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:04:53AM I'M SAYING THIS TO ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING OUR
10:04:59AM OWN, THAT I HOPE WE CAN PERHAPS HIRE A MEDIATOR AND COME TO
10:05:03AM SOME RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY AREN'T DOING VERY WELL
10:05:06AM SO FAR.
10:05:06AM I APPRECIATE MR. CARLSON'S EFFORT, ACTUALLY FROM THIS
10:05:12AM COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE TO TABLE THIS FOR A WHILE BECAUSE IT
10:05:15AM LOOKED LIKE WE WERE SORT OF DASHING INTO IT AND RUNNING OUR
10:05:21AM HEAD INTO THE WALL ON THE ISSUE, INCLUDING FROM COUNCIL'S
10:05:28AM PERSPECTIVE.
10:05:29AM I DO APPRECIATE, BILL, YOU DOING THAT SO WE HAVE A LITTLE
10:05:33AM TIME TO BREATHE, BUT THIS ISSUE WILL COME BACK PROBABLY NEXT
10:05:36AM YEAR, AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB, BUT THANK
10:05:36AM YOU.
10:05:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY QUICK.
10:05:43AM WE LITERALLY HAVE TWO MINUTES.
10:05:46AM >> JUST TO SAY WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
10:05:49AM WE CERTAINLY WELCOME THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND WE'RE TRYING TO
10:05:51AM WORK WITH ALL SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING CERTAINLY
10:05:53AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:05:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:05:55AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:05:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
10:06:00AM THIS ISSUE UP.
10:06:02AM I'M NOT AS WELL VERSED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE AS MR. MIRANDA AND
10:06:05AM MR. DINGFELDER.
10:06:07AM THAT TELLS ME THAT THE PUBLIC ISN'T EITHER.
10:06:10AM I SEE TWO ENTITIES THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EITHER ONE.
10:06:16AM SO WHEN MR. MIRANDA TELLS ME WE'RE SPENDING THIS KIND OF
10:06:21AM MONEY, I'M WONDERING WHO WE'RE ADVERTISING TO.
10:06:26AM THAT JUST MAKES ME -- WHO MEMBERS TO WHAT YOU DO?
10:06:32AM IS THERE A BOARD COMBINED WITH ALL THE ENTITIES, WITH
10:06:35AM SOUTHWEST, WITH YOU GUYS?
10:06:37AM IT'S LIKE EVERYONE IS AT A FREE FOR ALL WITH WHAT WE'RE
10:06:41AM DOING.
10:06:41AM I'M CURIOUS HOW THIS OPERATES.
10:06:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: TEN SECONDS.
10:06:45AM >> YES, WE ARE DOING PUBLIC OUTREACH.
10:06:48AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT THAT.
10:06:49AM PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE AND EDUCATION IS PART OF OUR MASTER WATER
10:06:52AM PLAN PROCESS.
10:06:53AM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE'RE
10:06:55AM PUTTING OUT.
10:06:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:06:57AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CLOSE.
10:06:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A STATEMENT AND QUICK QUESTION FROM
10:07:02AM MS. -- FOR MS. RICE, IF I COULD, WITH A QUICK ANSWER.
10:07:05AM WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AS THE TAP ISSUE COMES UP AGAIN.
10:07:10AM MY INTENTION TODAY WAS NOT TO OPEN BACK UP TAP.
10:07:14AM AS WE MENTIONED, TAP WAS PART OF THE ALTERNATIVES FOR THE
10:07:16AM MASTER WATER PLAN FOR FUTURE SOURCES, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:07:19AM PULLED OUT AND WANTED TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
10:07:23AM THE INTENT OF THE REGION WAS THAT NEW SOURCES WOULD BE
10:07:28AM MANAGED BY THE REGIONAL SUPPLIER, AND TAMPA BAY WATER CAN
10:07:31AM OWN THE PROJECT.
10:07:32AM WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ON THE DEBT AND THEY COULD MANAGE
10:07:35AM IT AND RUN IT.
10:07:36AM IT COULD BE A SIMILAR PROJECT, BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:07:39AM WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE IT ON AND IT WOULD STAY IN THE SPIRIT
10:07:42AM OF REGIONAL COOPERATION INSTEAD OF TAMPA DOING IT ITSELF.
10:07:45AM MS. RICE, COULD YOU DESCRIBE IN A FEW SECONDS WHY IT'S
10:07:49AM IMPORTANT TO TAKE A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND JUST DESCRIBE
10:07:53AM -- YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A 30-YEAR PLAN FOR WATER.
10:07:56AM WE DON'T HAVE ANY URGENT -- MY UNDERSTANDING WE DON'T HAVE
10:07:59AM ANY URGENT SUPPLY REQUIREMENTS THAT CAN'T BE MET BY THE
10:08:03AM PLANNING AND PROCESS GOING THROUGH AND ALSO WHY IS IT
10:08:05AM IMPORTANT TO COOPERATE AS A REGION?
10:08:10AM >> REGIONALISM HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY OUR BOARD AS A
10:08:12AM PRIORITY SINCE OUR COOPERATIVE FUNDING PROGRAM WAS STARTED
10:08:16AM IN THE '80s.
10:08:18AM THIS HAS BEEN A BIG FOCUS FOR US.
10:08:19AM SOME SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS ARE WITH PLANNING. YOU HAVE THE
10:08:23AM ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THEN YOU HAVE FIVE WATER
10:08:25AM MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS SO THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT TELLING
10:08:27AM OUR REGION HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
10:08:30AM YOU BRING IT DOWN TO A LOCAL LEVEL.
10:08:32AM AND THEN THESE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITIES BRING IT
10:08:34AM DOWN ONE MORE STEP.
10:08:36AM WITHOUT THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITIES, EACH OF THOSE
10:08:39AM 11 WELL FIELDS THAT'S UNDER ONE COOPERATIVE --
10:08:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL HAVE TO ASK TO YOU FINISH UP YOUR
10:08:46AM STATEMENT REALLY FAST, IF YOU WOULD.
10:08:47AM WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
10:08:49AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:08:49AM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SUPPLIES UNDER TAMPA BAY WATER, IT'S
10:08:52AM A VERY DIVERSE SET OF SUPPLIES, WOULD BE INDIVIDUALLY
10:08:55AM PERMITTED BY INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES.
10:08:58AM IT GIVES THE ABILITY FOR THIS BODY OF SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS
10:09:03AM TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE MUCH MORE CONTROL AND NOT HAVE THE
10:09:07AM WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DICTATING.
10:09:10AM SO IT'S PUTTING THE AUTHORITY AND THE DECISION MAKING AT THE
10:09:13AM RIGHT LEVEL, AND IT HELPS WITH THE PLANNING EFFORT.
10:09:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:09:18AM ANYTHING ELSE TO CLOSE, COUNCILMAN?
10:09:19AM THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
10:09:21AM THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
10:09:22AM NEXT WE MOVE TO -- I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON PULLED THIS
10:09:26AM ITEM.
10:09:26AM I SEE SOME FOLKS FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:09:30AM I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME UP FIRST, IF YOU GUYS COULD.
10:09:33AM I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY, VERY BUSY.
10:09:36AM FOR STAFF REPORTS, WE'RE LIMITING STAFF REPORTS TO FIVE
10:09:44AM MINUTES EACH.
10:09:45AM AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF REPORTS.
10:09:46AM I THINK EVERYBODY WANTED STAFF TO APPEAR FOR THIS.
10:09:50AM I'M GOING TO -- I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH STAFF REPORTS FOR
10:09:53AM JUST REPORTS WITH STAFF.
10:09:56AM WE'LL HAVE TO START HAVING A MORE RESTRAINED, I GUESS MAYBE,
10:10:00AM FIVE, SIX PER COUNCIL SESSION.
10:10:03AM BECAUSE TODAY WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT.
10:10:05AM IF YOU COULD CALENDAR EACH, PLEASE, FOR FIVE MINUTES, I'D
10:10:09AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:10:10AM COUNCILMAN, IF YOU WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.
10:10:12AM >> I'M LIEUTENANT PAT MESSMER WITH SPECIAL OPERATIONS
10:10:17AM DIVISION OF TPD.
10:10:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T CALL YOU IN BECAUSE I'M FOR OR
10:10:21AM AGAINST IT.
10:10:21AM JUST I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS OVERNIGHT ASKING WHAT THIS IS
10:10:25AM FOR.
10:10:26AM HOW IT WILL BE USED, WHAT RIGHTS DO CITIZENS HAVE IN
10:10:29AM RELATION TO HOW THE DRONES WILL BE USED.
10:10:32AM IT'S ITEM NUMBER 20.
10:10:33AM >> SURE.
10:10:35AM WE'RE BASICALLY USED UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS AS A WAY TO
10:10:40AM SUPPLEMENT HELICOPTERS.
10:10:41AM UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE FREEDOM FROM UNWANTED SURVEILLANCE
10:10:44AM ACT, WHICH IS FLORIDA STATUTE 934.50, NOW THAT STATUTE
10:10:48AM ACTUALLY PROHIBITS US FROM USING DRONES FOR EVIDENCE
10:10:51AM GATHERING OR SURVEILLANCE OR REALLY ANY KIND OF GATHERING OF
10:10:56AM INFORMATION UNLESS CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE MET, SUCH AS WE HAVE
10:10:59AM A SEARCH WARRANT.
10:11:00AM WE HAVE A SUSPECT WHO IS FLEEING ACTIVELY.
10:11:03AM WE HAVE A MISSING PERSON WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR FORENSICALLY
10:11:06AM MAPPING TRAFFIC CRASH SCENE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10:11:10AM ANY KIND OF CONCERN THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS FOR
10:11:12AM SURVEILLANCE OR USE IT FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OR MONITORING
10:11:17AM CROWDS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CANNOT LEGALLY DO THAT UNDER
10:11:20AM THE STATUTE.
10:11:21AM OUR POLICY PROHIBITS US FROM DOING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
10:11:24AM AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY ARE GOING TO BE USED.
10:11:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK I GOT, AND I
10:11:30AM DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:11:32AM EDUCATION ON IT, BUT SOME FOLKS SAID THAT THERE'S AN
10:11:36AM EXCEPTION FOR POTENTIAL TERRORIST TARGETS.
10:11:39AM I THINK THE ARAB OR MUSLIM COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES
10:11:42AM ARE WORRIED ABOUT SURVEILLANCE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THAT.
10:11:47AM IS THAT ACCURATE?
10:11:49AM >> SO THE WAY THE ACT READS, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO
10:11:52AM COUNTER A HIGH RISK OF TERRORIST ATTACK BY A SPECIFIC
10:11:55AM INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION IF THE UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF
10:11:59AM HOMELAND SECURITY DETERMINES THE CREDIBLE INTELLIGENCE
10:12:04AM INDICATES THERE IS SUCH A RISK.
10:12:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN'T USE IT FOR REGULAR MONITORING OF A
10:12:08AM CERTAIN GROUP.
10:12:10AM >> WE HAVE RESEARCHED THIS.
10:12:11AM THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY SITUATION I'M AWARE OF WHERE THE
10:12:14AM SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS MADE THIS DETERMINATION.
10:12:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:12:18AM I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN LAST MINUTE.
10:12:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:12:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, MR. CARLSON.
10:12:24AM I WAS TALKING TO THE CHIEF YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS ITEM, NOT
10:12:28AM ONLY FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE OR A PRIVACY PERSPECTIVE,
10:12:33AM BUT ALSO FROM A MONETARY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THE $115,000.
10:12:38AM THAT'S ONE EXPENSIVE DRONE.
10:12:40AM THEN HE INFORMED ME OR REMINDED ME, HE SAID IT MIGHT BE FOUR
10:12:44AM DRONES.
10:12:45AM >> THERE'S ACTUALLY FIVE.
10:12:46AM IN ADDITION TO THIS, THERE'S SOME TRAINING COSTS.
10:12:49AM WE HAVE TO GET OUR OFFICERS LICENSED THROUGH THE FAA.
10:12:52AM SO THERE'S TRAINING COSTS.
10:12:54AM THERE'S LICENSING COSTS.
10:12:55AM AND THESE ARE MUCH MORE ROBUST AND THEY HAVE MUCH MORE
10:13:00AM ADVANCED CAPABILITIES --
10:13:02AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ASSURE US THERE'S NO WEAPONS ON BOARD.
10:13:05AM >> THEY ARE NOT WEAPONIZED.
10:13:06AM IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR POLICY THAT WEAPONS ARE PROHIBITED ON
10:13:09AM THEM.
10:13:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAY THAT JOKINGLY BUT HOPEFULLY IN ALL
10:13:15AM SERIOUSNESS AS WELL.
10:13:16AM I'M NOT REALLY SURE, LIKE WITH A HELICOPTER, I WOULD ASSUME
10:13:23AM THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A REPORT MADE.
10:13:26AM THE HELICOPTER TOOK OFF FOR THIS PURPOSE OR WHATEVER, AND
10:13:29AM THERE'S LIKE A DAILY LOG OR SOMETHING.
10:13:33AM WOULD THERE SIMILARLY BE A LOG FOR THE USE OF THE DRONES.
10:13:43AM PERHAPS IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THAT TPD COULD GENERATE A
10:13:48AM REPORT TO COUNCIL ANNUALLY.
10:13:49AM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN PERSON, JUST TO GENERATE A REPORT
10:13:52AM TO LET US KNOW THE USE OF THE DRONES IN THE FUTURE.
10:13:56AM THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN BE REASSURED THAT WE ARE STAYING
10:14:00AM WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE STATUTE.
10:14:03AM >> THERE WILL BE A DOCUMENTATION KEPT BY THE DEPARTMENT AS
10:14:06AM TO EVERY TIME THEY ARE DEPLOYED.
10:14:08AM THE OFFICER WHO DEPLOYS IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO FILL OUT
10:14:12AM PAPERWORK ABOUT THAT DEPLOYMENT THAT WILL BE KEPT AND IT
10:14:15AM WILL BE OPEN TO PUBLIC RECORDS.
10:14:18AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY POINT IS COULD IT BE IN THE
10:14:21AM FORM OF A SUMMARY.
10:14:22AM OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T NEED OR WANT TO SEE THE DETAILS ABOUT
10:14:25AM THE ADDRESS.
10:14:27AM YOU MIGHT BE DOING IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST IN
10:14:30AM GENERAL FORM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP
10:14:33AM OF THE STATUTE.
10:14:34AM >> I WOULDN'T SEE ANY REASON WHY NOT.
10:14:37AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THE
10:14:39AM MEETING ALONG THOSE LINES.
10:14:40AM THANK YOU.
10:14:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:14:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WILL THE PUBLIC, IF
10:14:46AM THIS COUNCIL ENACTS THIS, WILL THE PUBLIC BE AWARE WE'LL BE
10:14:50AM UTILIZING THESE TYPES OF DRONES?
10:14:52AM I DON'T WANT TO GET CALLS, I SEE SOMETHING IN THE AIR, WILL
10:14:56AM THERE BE ANY PSAs OR ANY TYPE OF COMMUNICATION TO THE
10:14:59AM PUBLIC THAT THIS WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
10:15:04AM >> I WOULD IMAGINE OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE ONCE WE
10:15:06AM IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM WILL BE PUTTING OUT A SOCIAL MEDIA
10:15:08AM CAMPAIGN OR MENTIONING IT TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT WILL BE
10:15:12AM USED.
10:15:12AM AS TO EVERY SINGLE DEPLOYMENT, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVE
10:15:15AM SOMETHING GOING ON AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING --
10:15:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
10:15:19AM BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT IT, IF THIS BODY GOES ALONG WITH THIS
10:15:22AM RECOMMENDATION, MAKING SURE THAT THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE
10:15:26AM THIS IS SOMETHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE USING AND
10:15:28AM THEY KNOW THE PARAMETERS OF WHY WE'RE USING IT.
10:15:31AM >> YES, THAT IS IN OUR PLAN IS TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC
10:15:33AM INFORMATION OFFICE BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.
10:15:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION TO MAKE
10:15:38AM SURE WE DO THAT.
10:15:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:15:39AM ANYONE ELSE.
10:15:41AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:15:42AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE.
10:15:43AM YOU AREN'T HERE FOR ANY OTHER ITEMS, CORRECT?
10:15:47AM >> I'M NOT.
10:15:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
10:15:50AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING.
10:15:52AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD.
10:15:54AM TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, FOR STAFF REPORTS, WE USUALLY BREAK
10:16:01AM AT 10 A.M., MORE OR LESS FOR STAFF REPORTS.
10:16:07AM THAT WILL THEN PUSH BACK THE PROSPECTIVE TIME FOR PUBLIC
10:16:11AM COMMENT.
10:16:11AM USUALLY WE BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT AT 9:35 OR 9:45.
10:16:17AM UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY WITH OUR AGENDA, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
10:16:19AM MY APOLOGIES.
10:16:21AM BUT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN THAT REGARD.
10:16:23AM NEXT, WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 46 FOR -- NUMBER 96 ANGUS R.
10:16:39AM GOSS POOL.
10:16:45AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:16:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, YOU'RE NOT RECOGNIZING
10:16:49AM [SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE]
10:16:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
10:16:54AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:16:54AM [SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE]
10:16:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:16:58AM THAT'S IT.
10:16:59AM WE'RE TAKING A THREE-MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL COME BACK,
10:17:02AM MR. DIAL, TO CALM THINGS DOWN.
10:17:04AM [RECESS]
10:19:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: BACK IN SESSION.
10:19:13AM MR. DIAL.
10:19:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:19:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:19:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:19:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:19:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:19:29AM OKAY.
10:19:31AM MR. DIAL, GO AHEAD.
10:19:32AM I WOULD ASK CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN ABUNDANT NUMBER OF
10:19:34AM STAFF REPORTS TODAY, TO MOVE THROUGH BRISKLY SO THAT WE CAN
10:19:38AM GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
10:19:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE MR. DIAL STARTS, I WANT TO MAKE
10:19:45AM COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING AS IT RELATES TO THE
10:19:47AM SITUATION HERE.
10:19:48AM I THINK IT'S DUE FOR A CONVERSATION.
10:19:51AM I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE SITUATION.
10:19:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:19:54AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:19:56AM >>PAUL DIAL: GOOD MORNING.
10:19:57AM PAUL DIAL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
10:19:59AM I'VE BEEN ASKED TO COME BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE
10:20:03AM PLANS FOR ANGUS GOSS POOL AND BALDOMERO LOPEZ POOL IN THE
10:20:10AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:20:10AM WE HAVE PROVIDED A REPORT TO YOU SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
10:20:14AM IT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN JUST A BRIEF HISTORY OF THAT.
10:20:18AM IT DOES PROVIDE A HISTORY OF BOTH OF THE SWIMMING POOLS THAT
10:20:21AM WERE THERE.
10:20:22AM THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN CLOSED FOR MANY YEARS.
10:20:24AM AS WELL AS DESCRIBING THE DEFICIENCIES AT EACH OF THE POOLS
10:20:30AM AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
10:20:31AM WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED SOME NATIONAL STANDARDS SHOWING THE
10:20:37AM STANDARDS FOR THE AMOUNT OF POOLS PER POPULATION ACROSS THE
10:20:41AM COUNTRY AND BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION.
10:20:45AM THE STANDARD LOOKED AT IS ONE POOL FOR EVERY 36,000 PEOPLE.
10:20:50AM TAMPA IS ABOUT ONE POOL FOR EVERY 32,000 PEOPLE.
10:20:53AM SO WE'RE A BIT AHEAD OF THE NATIONAL STANDARD.
10:20:56AM IT SHOWED THE STANDARDS IN FLORIDA AND WITH POPULATIONS OF
10:20:59AM CITIES OF 250,000 TO 500,000.
10:21:04AM AND IN THE 250 TO 500 THOUSAND, IT'S ABOUT 64,000 PEOPLE PER
10:21:09AM POOL.
10:21:09AM SO WE'RE WELL AHEAD OF THOSE NUMBERS.
10:21:12AM WE ALSO PROVIDED SOME NUMBERS RELATED TO ATTENDANCE AND THE
10:21:17AM 12 POOL LOCATIONS AND THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE POOLS TO THE
10:21:21AM COMMUNITY.
10:21:21AM I DID WANT TO SAY THAT SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE,
10:21:26AM THERE WERE DOLLARS PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR A STUDY RELATED
10:21:30AM TO THE TWO POOLS.
10:21:31AM THIS HAS EVOLVED OVER THE TIME, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS,
10:21:34AM AND WITH THE MAYOR APPROVING THE FUNDING FOR THE
10:21:38AM COMPREHENSIVE PARK -- PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, PART
10:21:41AM OF THAT PROCESS WILL BE THAT THESE POOLS WILL BE INCLUDED
10:21:45AM AND DEVELOPED IN THE SCOPE SO THAT THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN,
10:21:49AM THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT SEPARATELY.
10:21:51AM IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE COMBINED TOGETHER, MARRIED, BECAUSE
10:21:56AM IT'S ALL ONE PARK SYSTEM, ONE GROUP OF FACILITIES.
10:21:59AM THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS THAT IS GOING TO BE
10:22:02AM GOING ON NEXT YEAR.
10:22:04AM WE'RE WORKING ON A CONSULTANT HOPEFULLY COMING IN EARLY IN
10:22:08AM 2020 BEING SELECTED.
10:22:10AM WE HAVE THE MASTER PLAN MEETINGS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED.
10:22:13AM WE HAVE THE SECOND ONE OF THOSE TONIGHT AT KID MASON WHERE
10:22:16AM WE'RE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC AND JUST GETTING INPUT PRIOR
10:22:20AM TO THE CONSULTANT COMING ON BOARD.
10:22:22AM IT ALL IS KIND OF PULLED TOGETHER.
10:22:24AM THAT'S THE UPDATE.
10:22:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:22:26AM ANY QUESTIONS?
10:22:27AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:22:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:22:30AM THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.
10:22:31AM TWO THINGS, ONE, DO WE STILL HAVE THAT SWIMMING POOL OVER BY
10:22:36AM COLEMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL OFF OF MANHATTAN?
10:22:41AM >>PAUL DIAL: INTERBAY?
10:22:46AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHARLIE, DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF IT?
10:22:49AM DO YOU KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT?
10:22:52AM IT'S BY COLEMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL, IN THAT WESTSHORE AREA.
10:22:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ESTRELLA.
10:22:58AM I THINK IT'S THERE BETWEEN COLEMAN AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
10:23:05AM -- THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
10:23:06AM >>PAUL DIAL: A LISTING OF ALL THE POOLS ARE LISTED HERE.
10:23:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SURE IT'S STILL THERE AND STILL
10:23:13AM FUNCTIONAL.
10:23:14AM THE ONLY REASON I POINT IT OUT, WHEN I PICTURE IN MY MIND
10:23:17AM WHAT THAT POOL LOOKS LIKE, I THINK IT WAS IN THE SAME FAMILY
10:23:21AM OF GENERATION OF POOLS AS THE GOSS AND THE BALDOMERO POOL.
10:23:28AM I VISUALIZE IT, IT'S ABOVEGROUND -- NOT ABOVEGROUND -- IT'S
10:23:35AM HIGHER.
10:23:36AM IT HAS A LOT OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT WE CRITICIZE THESE TWO
10:23:40AM POOLS.
10:23:40AM I KNOW IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.
10:23:42AM I THINK ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES NOW WITH THE TWO POOLS IS
10:23:45AM THEY ARE FILLED WITH DIRT.
10:23:47AM THAT DIDN'T GET MENTIONED IN YOUR LIST OF DEFICIENCIES.
10:23:49AM ANYWAY, I THINK SOME MISTAKES WERE MADE IN THE PAST.
10:23:52AM I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
10:23:55AM I HOPE THAT IT WILL INCLUDE RECREATIONAL POOLS FOR THESE
10:23:59AM COMMUNITIES IN SOME SENSE.
10:24:01AM SO THANK YOU.
10:24:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
10:24:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAS THERE BEEN A COST FACTOR IN THESE POOLS
10:24:09AM YET?
10:24:11AM >>PAUL DIAL: THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
10:24:12AM THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WITHIN THE
10:24:15AM STUDY OF THE COST RELATED TO THE TWO SITES.
10:24:17AM AGAIN, THAT WILL BE INTO THE SCOPE FOR THE CONSULTANT, BUT
10:24:22AM NO COST AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE ALSO DON'T HAVE THE SCOPE OF
10:24:25AM THE PROJECT, SO YOU NEED THE SCOPE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
10:24:28AM YOU'RE LOOKING AT OR THE -- FOR THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THE
10:24:34AM COSTS ARE DETERMINED.
10:24:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:24:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT FOR THE ANGUS GOSS POOL,
10:24:41AM $4 MILLION FOR A WHOLE BRAND-NEW, FROM SCRATCH, NOT A
10:24:44AM RENOVATION, BUT MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT AND WHATNOT AND
10:24:48AM MODERNIZING IT.
10:24:50AM >>PAUL DIAL: AGAIN, STAFF LOOKED AT FROM THE CONCEPT, WHEN
10:24:52AM WE SAY "A POOL."
10:24:54AM A POOL CAN BE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, SIZE, LOOKING AT
10:24:59AM 25 YARDS, 25-METER, 75 FEET.
10:25:03AM ARE YOU LOOKING AT A SPLASH PAD WITH THAT, A BABY POOL,
10:25:08AM OFFICE AREA.
10:25:11AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS GO INTO DETERMINING THE TYPE OF
10:25:13AM FACILITY.
10:25:14AM HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN
10:25:16AM PROCESS OF LOOKING AT, DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE
10:25:19AM WANTING.
10:25:20AM THE COST THAT WE GAVE BEFORE WAS AN ESTIMATE WITHOUT REALLY
10:25:24AM HAVING ANY KIND OF SCOPE IN MIND AT THIS TIME, WITH THAT
10:25:27AM THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
10:25:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
10:25:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST, COULD YOU PLEASE -- I READ
10:25:33AM YOUR REPORT, BUT COULD YOU PLEASE TRY TO LOOK AT
10:25:36AM REVENUE-GENERATING FACILITIES THERE, TOO, RESTAURANTS OR
10:25:41AM SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REVENUE-GENERATING THAT WOULD HELP
10:25:43AM SUBSIDIZE THE REST OF IT.
10:25:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
10:25:46AM THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.
10:25:47AM WE APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
10:25:49AM NEXT, WE MOVE TO MS. DUNCAN FOR 97.
10:25:53AM AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT EVERYTHING TO FIVE MINUTES EACH
10:26:01AM SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG BRISKLY.
10:26:03AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:26:03AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:26:06AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:26:06AM JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES
10:26:09AM DEPARTMENT.
10:26:09AM YOU HAD ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION REGARDING OUR BRICK
10:26:14AM STREETS.
10:26:14AM I SUBMITTED A REPORT, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKET
10:26:18AM THERE.
10:26:18AM THE QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH OUR P.I.P.E.S. PROJECTS COMING
10:26:22AM ALONG, WHICH WILL BE, OF COURSE, TEARING UP MANY OF THE
10:26:25AM STREETS IN ORDER TO PUT IN NEW WATER OR WASTEWATER LINES,
10:26:29AM POTENTIALLY STORMWATER COMPONENTS AS WELL.
10:26:32AM WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW OUR CITY CODE AND OUR PROTOCOL OF
10:26:37AM PROTECTING OUR VITRIFIED BRICK STREETS IN OUR HISTORIC
10:26:40AM AREAS.
10:26:41AM ANY STREETS THAT ARE ASPHALT, BRICK, OR ASPHALTED OVER,
10:26:46AM THOSE WILL NOT BE RESTORED TO ANY SORT OF BRICK CONDITION
10:26:51AM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROCESS AS WE HAVE BEEN.
10:26:54AM I JUST DO WANT TO SAY WITH THE PIPES PROJECT COMING OUT,
10:26:58AM NONE OF THOSE PROJECT AREAS WILL BE WITHIN OUR HISTORIC
10:27:02AM DISTRICT AREA FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS.
10:27:06AM SO THERE CERTAINLY IS SOME TIME TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT BRICK
10:27:11AM VERSUS ASPHALT, AND IF THERE'S ANY ADJUSTMENTS WE WOULD WANT
10:27:15AM TO MAKE.
10:27:16AM THERE'S TIME TO DO THAT.
10:27:17AM BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON THE SAME CODE AND
10:27:22AM PROTOCOLS WE HAVE AS WE UNDERTAKE THE PIPES PROJECT IN THE
10:27:26AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:27:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:27:27AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DUNCAN?
10:27:29AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:27:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:27:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST THIS IS AN ISSUE, OF COURSE, OF BIG
10:27:38AM CONCERN OF MY DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY IN THE HYDE PARK AREA.
10:27:42AM AND THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT LOSING THE BRICKS.
10:27:44AM I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU LATER.
10:27:45AM I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING THIS UP IN ANOTHER WAY.
10:27:49AM I'D LIKE TO SEE ANY PROPOSALS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON ORDINANCES
10:27:51AM THAT WE CAN PUT IN TO PROTECT THE BRICKS.
10:27:53AM BUT ONE QUESTION I WAS ASKED IS THAT SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE
10:27:56AM A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT CAN EXTRACT THE ASPHALT FROM
10:28:01AM BRICKS.
10:28:01AM I SAW THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION IN YOUR REPORT WHERE ASPHALT IS
10:28:05AM KIND OF STUCK ONTO BRICKS AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO PULL APART.
10:28:08AM I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT USED IN OTHER
10:28:10AM CITIES THAT EXTRACTS IT ON THE SPOT, BUT IT'S KIND OF
10:28:13AM EXPENSIVE.
10:28:14AM DO WE HAVE THAT OR CAN WE GET THAT?
10:28:16AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.
10:28:18AM WE ARE AWARE OF IT, AND IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
10:28:20AM WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY GOOD BRICK CONTRACTOR WHO HIS
10:28:25AM EXPERIENCE IS DEMONSTRATING THAT A LOT OF TIMES IF SOME OF
10:28:29AM THESE BRICKS CAN BE EXTRACTED AND STORED, THAT WITHIN A
10:28:34AM CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THAT ASPHALT CRACKS AND FALLS OFF
10:28:38AM NATURALLY FROM THE BRICKS.
10:28:39AM SO WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN EXPLORING WHAT ARE SOME OTHER
10:28:43AM THINGS WE COULD DO TO RESTORE THE BRICKS THAT WE DO HAVE AND
10:28:48AM REUTILIZE THEM.
10:28:50AM THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE PIPES PROJECT WILL NOT BE IN THE
10:28:56AM HISTORICAL AREA ANY TIME SOON.
10:29:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOST IMPORTANT INTEREST FROM MY DISTRICT
10:29:02AM THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR IS JUST TO RETAIN THE BRICKS SO WE
10:29:04AM CAN USE THEM AGAIN.
10:29:05AM WE HAVE A SHORTAGE MAYBE FOR 7th AVENUE.
10:29:08AM BUT SOME PLACES WANT TO GET THE BRICKS RESTORED.
10:29:10AM IF WE LOSE THEM, WE LOSE THEM FOREVER.
10:29:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:29:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MS. DUNCAN.
10:29:17AM I READ THE MEMO DATED OCTOBER 29th.
10:29:25AM I GUESS ONE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY
10:29:30AM IN THEIR INFINITE WISDOM CAME ALONG AND PAVED OVER QUITE A
10:29:34AM FEW BRICK STREETS.
10:29:35AM IF YOU DO HAVE TO TEAR UP THOSE STREETS, THOSE BRICKS ARE IN
10:29:43AM MANY CASES STILL THERE, BUT THEY'VE GOT ASPHALT ON TOP OF
10:29:47AM THEM.
10:29:48AM MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
10:29:50AM BUT IF YOU FLIP THE BRICK OVER, ISN'T IT STILL JUST A NICE
10:29:54AM USABLE BRICK?
10:29:56AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT COULD BE THE CASE.
10:29:58AM THE PROBLEM WE HAVE SEEN IN EXPLORING THE REUTILIZATION OF
10:30:03AM THOSE BRICKS IS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EXTRACT THEM OUT WITH
10:30:08AM THE MACHINES THAT WE HAVE TO USE WITHOUT DESTROYING A
10:30:12AM CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE BRICKS.
10:30:14AM SO IT'S A DIFFICULT PROCESS TO -- IT WOULD BE VERY LABOR
10:30:18AM INTENSIVE TO EXTRACT THEM OUT WITHOUT DAMAGING THEM IN THE
10:30:22AM PROCESS WITH CURRENT PRACTICES THAT WE USE.
10:30:25AM THE PROTOCOL HAS BEEN ASPHALTS IT OVER AND THE BRICKS HAVE
10:30:32AM SETTLED AND THEY ARE WAY DOWN IN THE BASE OF THE ROAD AT
10:30:35AM THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO RESTORE THEM
10:30:39AM BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO --
10:30:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'M NOT SUGGESTING RESTORATION.
10:30:43AM I CAN SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO SCRAPE OFF
10:30:46AM OR CHEMICALLY DISSOLVE THAT ASPHALT FROM THE TOP OF THE
10:30:52AM BRICK.
10:30:52AM THAT LEADS TO MY QUESTION OF FLIPPING IT OVER AND USING THE
10:30:57AM OTHER SIDE.
10:30:58AM BRAD AND HIS TEAM -- I GUESS THEY LEFT -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE
10:31:05AM GOING TO BE DIGGING UP THE ENTIRE STREET IN MANY CASES.
10:31:13AM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO LOOK INTO
10:31:16AM THIS, BUT I'D LIKE US TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER IN TERMS OF
10:31:19AM THIS NOTION OF JUST USING THE FLIP SIDE.
10:31:22AM NOW, ONE OTHER SUGGESTION --
10:31:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: QUICKLY, IF I MAY INTERJECT, COUNCILMAN
10:31:27AM DINGFELDER, LET'S HURRY UP AND WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE WE WANT
10:31:29AM TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:31:31AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO ALSO HAS A QUESTION.
10:31:33AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:31:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IT
10:31:38AM SPEAKS TO $2.3 MILLION PER LINEAR MILE FOR A TWO-LANE
10:31:44AM STREET.
10:31:44AM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE PRICE OF JUST
10:31:50AM STANDARD PAVING FOR A LINEAR STREET.
10:31:55AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT WAS DONE WITHIN THE TIME FRAME WE HAD TO
10:31:57AM KIND OF GIVE A SENSE, ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.
10:32:01AM THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DYNAMICS THAT COULD COME IN IN
10:32:06AM TERMS OF, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S NOT A HARD AND
10:32:09AM FAST NUMBER FOR EVERY SINGLE CASE.
10:32:11AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.
10:32:13AM SO FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, SO WE
10:32:17AM KNOW, OKAY IT MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, BUT AS YOU
10:32:20AM KNOW, AND YOU ADVOCATE, BRICK STREETS ARE A TRAFFIC-CALMING
10:32:24AM DEVICE.
10:32:24AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
10:32:25AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF NICE SO WE DON'T
10:32:27AM HAVE TO PUT IN SPEED BUMPS AND HAVE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS.
10:32:32AM MY STREET IS A BRICK STREET.
10:32:33AM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BRICK STREET.
10:32:35AM IT'S GOT A PARK AT THE END OF IT.
10:32:37AM BUT PEOPLE TEND TO DRIVE A LOT SLOWER BECAUSE THEY DON'T
10:32:40AM WANT TO RATTLE THEIR CAR TO DEATH ON THE BRICK STREET, WHICH
10:32:43AM IS FINE WITH ME.
10:32:44AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I
10:32:49AM APPRECIATE THE TIME CONSTRAINT IS IN REGARD TO THIS NOTION,
10:32:53AM THIS ISN'T JUST A HISTORIC DISTRICT ISSUE.
10:32:55AM THERE ARE STREETS ALL OVER TOWN THAT GOT PAVED OVER, THAT
10:33:00AM LOST THEIR BRICK STREETS, IN PALMA CEIA AND SEMINOLE
10:33:07AM HEIGHTS, AND OTHER PLACES THAT ARE NOT STRICTLY DESIGNATED
10:33:11AM HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
10:33:13AM SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ON THAT AS WELL.
10:33:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:18AM NEXT, MR. THOM SNELLING.
10:33:21AM [SHOUTING FROM AUDIENCE]
10:33:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, DO YOU WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK
10:33:30AM WITH ME?
10:33:31AM I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT?
10:33:32AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT, STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK WITH ME?
10:33:37AM [SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE]
10:33:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SNELLING.
10:33:53AM >>THOM SNELLING: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, THOM SNELLING,
10:33:56AM PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.
10:33:57AM THERE ARE TWO ITEMS HERE, 98 AND 99.
10:34:04AM ADDRESSING 98, OUR REQUEST WAS TO GO AHEAD AND COMBINE THE
10:34:09AM MOTION THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND CONTINUE TO THE FEBRUARY 6
10:34:13AM MOTION.
10:34:13AM IT'S VIRTUALLY THE SAME MOTION WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL
10:34:17AM ON THE FEBRUARY 6, BECAUSE YOU DRILL DOWN INTO THE ACTUAL
10:34:20AM EXPENSE ON THAT.
10:34:21AM OUR REQUEST IS TO ROLL THIS MOTION, REMOVE IT FROM TODAY AND
10:34:24AM ROLL IT INTO THE FEBRUARY 6th DISCUSSION.
10:34:26AM THAT WAS BASICALLY THE REQUEST.
10:34:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT A MOTION, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE,
10:34:31AM MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:34:32AM I MOVE THAT.
10:34:34AM FEBRUARY 6th.
10:34:36AM COMBINE THE TWO AND ROLL THEM INTO FEBRUARY 6.
10:34:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 98 AND 99 WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE ITEM
10:34:41AM FOR FEBRUARY 6.
10:34:42AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND BY
10:34:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:34:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:34:46AM ALL RIGHT.
10:34:47AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
10:34:49AM >>THOM SNELLING: THAT WAS PAINLESS, COUNCIL.
10:34:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 100, REGARDING CURRENT CODE
10:34:56AM ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.
10:35:01AM ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT?
10:35:04AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING.
10:35:05AM ANDREA ZELMAN.
10:35:06AM AS YOU'LL RECALL, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I PROVIDED YOU WITH A
10:35:09AM FOUR-PAGE MEMO AND A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE LIMITATIONS ON
10:35:14AM THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REGULATE THE LOCATION OF MEDICAL
10:35:18AM MARIJUANA TREATMENT FACILITIES AS WELL AS THE CULTIVATING
10:35:22AM AND PROCESSING FACILITIES.
10:35:24AM AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THE STATE HAS EXPRESSLY PREEMPTED
10:35:29AM THE REGULATION OF SUCH FACILITIES.
10:35:31AM THE ONLY LIMITATION YOU CAN PLACE ON A CULTIVATING AND
10:35:35AM PROCESSING FACILITY IS TO REQUIRE THAT IT BE LOCATED NO
10:35:39AM CLOSER THAN 500 FEET FROM A SCHOOL.
10:35:44AM WITH THE DISPENSARIES, THE CITY HAD THE OPTION TO OUTRIGHT
10:35:48AM BAN THEM.
10:35:48AM ONCE A CITY OR A COUNTY DECIDED NOT TO BAN THEM, AS THE CITY
10:35:51AM OF TAMPA DID BACK IN 2017, AGAIN, THE ONLY LOCATIONAL
10:35:56AM REQUIREMENT WAS THE 500-FEET DISTANCE FROM A SCHOOL, WHICH
10:36:00AM IN THE CASE OF DISPENSARIES, THE CITY CAN WAIVE PURSUANT TO
10:36:04AM A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
10:36:07AM THE STATUTE ALSO EXPRESSLY STATES THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY
10:36:10AM LIMITATIONS ON THEIR LOCATION THAT'S MORE STRINGENT THAN
10:36:14AM WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR A PHARMACY, A DRUGSTORE IN THE
10:36:18AM CITY.
10:36:19AM SO THE POINT BEING, WE DID LOOK.
10:36:21AM WE DID RESEARCH, WE DID DISCUSS THIS WITH OTHER
10:36:24AM JURISDICTIONS.
10:36:26AM REALLY, ANY FURTHER ZONING RESTRICTIONS ON THESE FACILITIES
10:36:30AM ARE PREEMPTED BY THE STATE.
10:36:33AM SO THERE REALLY IS NOTHING MORE THAT THE CITY CAN DO IN
10:36:38AM THESE INSTANCES THAN WE ARE ALREADY DOING UNDER OUR CODE.
10:36:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO AND THEN COUNCILMAN
10:36:45AM GUDES.
10:36:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ZELMAN --
10:36:53AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DO WE HAVE ONGOING LITIGATION ON THIS ITEM?
10:36:56AM NO, WE DON'T.
10:36:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
10:36:58AM PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, PEOPLE IN THE VIEWING, THIS IS
10:37:01AM ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF TALLAHASSEE TYING YOUR HANDS, NOT OUR
10:37:07AM HANDS, NOT CITY COUNCIL'S HANDS.
10:37:09AM I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:37:11AM THIS IS ME SPEAKING.
10:37:12AM THEY ARE TYING YOUR HANDS.
10:37:14AM YOU CAN'T COME TO TELL US WHERE OR WHERE WE CANNOT PUT THESE
10:37:19AM GROW HOUSES AND DISPENSARIES.
10:37:21AM I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THEM IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:37:25AM PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT -- EXCUSE ME -- IF RECREATIONAL
10:37:29AM MARIJUANA PASSES, THEY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE
10:37:32AM MARIJUANA.
10:37:33AM THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY.
10:37:34AM WHERE THESE GROW HOUSES AND WHERE THESE DISPENSARIES ARE
10:37:37AM LOCATED, YES, I CAN HAVE A VOICE IN THAT.
10:37:40AM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TALLAHASSEE IS TYING YOUR HANDS, NOT
10:37:42AM OURS.
10:37:43AM WE'RE UNABLE TO LISTEN TO YOU.
10:37:45AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:37:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT JUST SICKENS ME.
10:37:48AM IT SICKENS ME THAT WE HAVE NO POWER TO STOP THIS TYPE OF
10:37:53AM FACILITY FROM BEING IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY
10:37:56AM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER STRESS.
10:38:00AM IT REALLY ANGERS ME.
10:38:02AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, APPARENTLY THEY
10:38:03AM ARE DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING IT.
10:38:06AM THE CITY WILL SAY WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A LITIGATION
10:38:10AM SITUATION, APPARENTLY THE OTHER CITIES, THEY DON'T CARE
10:38:13AM ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
10:38:14AM THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT A LITIGATION PROCESS.
10:38:15AM NO ONE HAS STARTED TO LITIGATE AGAINST THEM.
10:38:19AM I DON'T LIKE TO BE A PERSON WHO RUNS FROM A SITUATION.
10:38:23AM I DON'T WANT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO FEEL THAT IF WE DO NOT
10:38:27AM DO NOTHING OR IF WE DO SOMETHING, WE'LL GET SUED.
10:38:30AM WE GET SUED EVERY DAY, THE CITY DOES.
10:38:32AM I'M REALLY DISHEARTENED THAT WE CAN'T EVEN PUT AN ORDINANCE
10:38:38AM IN PLACE TO SAY IT NEEDS TO BE ON AN OPEN HIGHWAY.
10:38:42AM WE CAN'T PUT AN ORDINANCE IN THAT SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE AWAY
10:38:47AM -- PEOPLE CAN SMOKE MARIJUANA.
10:38:50AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
10:38:52AM PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A COMMUNITY.
10:38:54AM I'M PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE END THAT WE GET A
10:38:56AM RESOLUTION TO SEND TO TALLAHASSEE AND HOPE COUNCIL WILL
10:38:59AM SUPPORT ME ON THAT, BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT'S WRONG THAT
10:39:03AM MS. ZELMAN'S OFFICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP OUR CITIZENS.
10:39:07AM NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT I'M FRUSTRATED THAT WE CAN'T DO
10:39:10AM SOMETHING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE.
10:39:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:15AM ANYBODY ELSE?
10:39:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:16AM WE'LL GO TO ITEM -- WHAT IS 66?
10:39:29AM LET'S DO THE STAFF REPORTS.
10:39:31AM THERE'S TWO LEFT.
10:39:32AM NUMBER 101 REGARDING LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES FROM
10:39:36AM ENCOURAGING THEM TO CONTRACT WITH COMPANIES TO USE --
10:39:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS MR. VIERA'S CASE.
10:39:44AM IF WE COULD HOLD THAT.
10:39:45AM I BELIEVE HE WILL HANDLE THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
10:39:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BENCHES IN
10:39:50AM LYKES GASLIGHT PARK.
10:39:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
10:40:07AM >> SAL RUGGIERO TO SPEAK ON GASLIGHT PARK.
10:40:11AM APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO, THE BENCHES WERE REMOVED.
10:40:15AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE PARK NOW,
10:40:18AM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
10:40:20AM IT'S A POSITIVE.
10:40:21AM I THINK TAMPA, WE'RE DEVELOPING INTO A WORLD-CLASS CITY.
10:40:24AM THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A WORLD-CLASS AMENITY ALONG WITH
10:40:27AM SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
10:40:31AM THE GOAL RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE MAYOR IS TO RENOVATE AND
10:40:35AM ACTIVATE ALL THE PARKS IN THE CITY, BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO
10:40:40AM MAKE THE PARK A KEY DOWNTOWN ECONOMIC ASSET AND BECOME KNOWN
10:40:46AM AS DOWNTOWN TAMPA'S TOWN SQUARE.
10:40:49AM SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S STILL IN THE
10:40:53AM EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW
10:40:57AM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP TO PUT A CAFE IN THE GASLIGHT PARK,
10:41:05AM ALONG WITH SEATING AND TRY TO REJUVENATE THAT AREA.
10:41:08AM LIKE I SAY, THE TALKS ARE STILL ONGOING.
10:41:13AM WE BELIEVE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SPACE WILL ENHANCE THE
10:41:17AM OVERALL APPEARANCE AND MAKE IT MORE INVITING FOR RESIDENTS
10:41:21AM AND VISITORS TO ENJOY.
10:41:23AM THAT'S THE GOAL HERE.
10:41:25AM IT'S A POSITIVE STEP, I THINK.
10:41:29AM I HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE, SOME PARKS IN
10:41:36AM NEW YORK CITY THAT HAVE -- THAT'S ONE IN CENTRAL PARK.
10:41:47AM AND THIS IS A CONCEPT OF THE CAFE STYLE.
10:41:53AM YOU CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THE SPACE AND ALL
10:41:55AM THAT.
10:41:56AM AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE DIAGRAM THERE WHERE IT MIGHT SHOW
10:42:01AM UP, THE CONCEPT OF WHERE IT MIGHT SHOW UP IN GASLIGHT PARK.
10:42:09AM I THINK OVERALL, THE SPACE IS GOING TO GET REJUVENATED AND A
10:42:18AM MORE POSITIVE USE COMING UP.
10:42:21AM WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
10:42:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:42:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:42:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT FLOODED WITH E-MAILS AND CALLS SINCE
10:42:33AM THE STORY CAME OUT.
10:42:34AM I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS IN
10:42:37AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:42:38AM THE PROBLEM WITH THIS NOW IS THE LAST MAYOR POLITICIZED THIS
10:42:43AM PARK.
10:42:43AM THROUGH HIS ACTIONS, HE SHOWED HE DIDN'T LIKE HOMELESS
10:42:46AM PEOPLE AND HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT POOR PEOPLE.
10:42:49AM NOW BECAUSE THIS PARK IS POLITICIZED, WHATEVER GOOD IDEAS
10:42:54AM MIGHT COME OUT, THE PROBLEM IS THE COMMUNITY SEES IT AS A
10:42:57AM SYMBOL OF HIS DISDAIN TOWARD HOMELESS PEOPLE.
10:43:01AM SOMEHOW, WE HAVE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE, AND THEN MAYBE COME
10:43:06AM BACK TO DISCUSSING WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PARTICULAR
10:43:11AM PARK.
10:43:11AM WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SENSITIVITY AND COMPASSION FOR HOMELESS
10:43:14AM PEOPLE AND POOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY, AS I PRESENTED A COUPLE
10:43:16AM OF WEEKS AGO, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WE'RE FACING IS THE HIGH
10:43:19AM POVERTY RATE IN OUR CITY, WHICH DIDN'T GET ANY BETTER AND I
10:43:22AM THINK GOT WORSE IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
10:43:24AM WE'VE GOT TO REALLY FOCUS ON THIS.
10:43:26AM THE PICTURES LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
10:43:28AM I'VE BEEN IN SOME OF THE PARKS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:43:30AM I SEE THAT IN THOSE PARKS, LIKE BRYANT PARK AND OTHERS,
10:43:33AM THERE'S PUBLIC ACCESS AND NOT JUST SEATING FOR CAFE OWNERS,
10:43:38AM SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, BECAUSE THE
10:43:40AM COMMUNITY IS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.
10:43:41AM THANK YOU.
10:43:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I REMEMBER DURING ONE OF THE COLLEGE
10:43:46AM CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES, THEY WERE FEEDING -- SOME GROUPS WERE
10:43:49AM FEEDING INDIVIDUALS IN THE PARK, AND THEY WERE ARRESTED.
10:43:52AM AND A VIDEO WENT VIRAL.
10:43:54AM WE WERE GETTING E-MAILS FROM, I DON'T KNOW, AMSTERDAM,
10:43:57AM HOLLAND, PARTS OF EUROPE THAT WERE CRITICIZING US FOR THE
10:44:02AM ARREST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE FEEDING THOSE IN NEED.
10:44:06AM I REMEMBER HAVING TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE WHERE YOU COULD
10:44:10AM HAVE SO MANY NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN A PARK WITHOUT HAVING
10:44:13AM TO PULL A PERMIT AND WHATNOT.
10:44:15AM MY QUOTE IN THE PAPER WAS, IN THE TIMES, WE NEED MORE LOVE
10:44:20AM AND COMPASSION.
10:44:21AM THE RESPONSE TO THAT WAS LATER ON, A YEAR AGO, REMOVING THE
10:44:25AM BENCHES FROM THE PARK FOR RENOVATION AND THEN THEY COULDN'T
10:44:28AM BE RENOVATED.
10:44:29AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
10:44:31AM I CAN'T GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY AND CALL MYSELF A CHRISTIAN
10:44:35AM AND ALLOW THIS NONSENSE TO GO ON.
10:44:41AM WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS.
10:44:43AM WE NEED TO TREAT EACH OTHER LIKE HUMAN BEINGS, AND WE DON'T
10:44:46AM SEE THAT.
10:44:47AM I'M NOT BLAMING YOU; I'M NOT BLAMING ANYONE IN PARTICULAR.
10:44:49AM BUT WE NEED TO DO BETTER AS A SOCIETY.
10:44:51AM WHAT I HEARD THE OTHER DAY WAS WE FORGET THAT WE ARE
10:44:53AM BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN LOVE, NOT IN CHRIST, IN LOVE, JUST
10:44:58AM IN THAT.
10:44:58AM SO MANY OF US ARE ONE STEP AWAY FROM HOMELESSNESS,
10:45:04AM HOUSELESSNESS, LOSING OUR JOB, NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT
10:45:05AM RENT, WHATEVER IT IS.
10:45:06AM WE NEED TO TREAT EACH OTHER BETTER AS HUMAN BEINGS.
10:45:09AM SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SITTING IN THE SHADE.
10:45:11AM IT'S HOT.
10:45:12AM EVEN IN THE SHADE IT'S HOT.
10:45:14AM I MET SO MANY INDIVIDUALS AT LYKES GASLIGHT PARK, ALL
10:45:17AM THROUGHOUT, I ASKED THEM, HOW DID YOU GET HERE?
10:45:20AM WHAT IS YOUR STORY?
10:45:21AM HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
10:45:22AM THE STORIES BREAK YOUR HEART.
10:45:23AM WHEN IT HAPPENS TO SOMEBODY YOU KNOW -- AND I LEARNED A LOT
10:45:26AM THROUGH THE GREAT RECESSION BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING PEOPLE
10:45:29AM LOSING THEIR JOBS, LOSING THEIR HOMES, SO MANY BAD THINGS.
10:45:33AM AND PEOPLE ARE FINALLY TEN YEARS LATER GETTING BACK ON THEIR
10:45:36AM FEET.
10:45:37AM YOU KNOW, GOING BACK, WE NEED TO DO BETTER AS PEOPLE AND AS
10:45:41AM A SOCIETY AND TREAT ONE ANOTHER WITH BETTER RESPECT.
10:45:44AM WHEN I SAW THE BENCHES BEING PULLED UP AND REPLACED WITH
10:45:47AM FLOWERPOTS, I GO, THIS IS A PARK.
10:45:49AM WHAT IF I WANT TO GO THERE AND HAVE A SANDWICH ON MY LUNCH
10:45:53AM BREAK, WHATEVER IT IS AND ENJOY THE PARK.
10:45:55AM THEN THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOWHERE TO GO AND ALL THEY DO
10:45:58AM IS GET SHUFFLED AROUND.
10:46:00AM WE FORGET WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A DECENT PERSON.
10:46:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIMES WE SUGARCOAT THINGS INSTEAD OF
10:46:14AM TELLING THEM THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW THINGS REALLY ARE.
10:46:17AM MY FRIEND SAL, WE WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE.
10:46:20AM HE KNOWS ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE.
10:46:23AM HE SOMETIMES HAD TO PUT PEOPLE OUT OF APARTMENTS, AND THEY
10:46:26AM BECOME HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR RENT.
10:46:29AM AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO EXPERIENCE.
10:46:32AM UNDERSTANDING HOW PEOPLE FEEL.
10:46:36AM A PARK, TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PARKS SINCE I'VE
10:46:40AM BEEN HERE.
10:46:41AM MR. MIRANDA BROUGHT IT UP CLEAR AS DAY, PARKS ARE THE
10:46:45AM LIVELIHOOD OF COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE.
10:46:47AM THAT'S WHERE THEY GO JUST TO THINK AND MEDITATE SOMETIMES.
10:46:52AM TO GET HEALTHY.
10:46:52AM WE HAVE A HOMELESS SITUATION.
10:46:55AM I'M FORTUNATE, A GENTLEMAN CAME TO SEE ME LAST WEEK WHO HAS
10:46:59AM AN IDEA ABOUT A HOMELESS SITUATION, HOW WE CAN HELP THOSE
10:47:02AM MOTHERS WHO DON'T HAVE A PLACE AND THEY GOT THE CHILDREN IN
10:47:06AM THE CAR ALL NIGHT LONG.
10:47:10AM OFFICER COMES UP, GOT TO MOVE ALONG.
10:47:12AM YOU GOT TO MOVE ALONG.
10:47:14AM YOU CAN'T BE HERE.
10:47:15AM OR OLDER GENTLEMAN WHO IS HOMELESS IN A CAR SOMEWHERE IN THE
10:47:19AM CITY.
10:47:19AM YOU HAVE TO MOVE ALONG.
10:47:20AM BUT THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP WITH A GOOD CONCEPT.
10:47:22AM I'LL PROBABLY HAVE HIM COME AND SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES
10:47:26AM HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE
10:47:29AM CAN SEE THIS IDEA.
10:47:30AM YOU HAVE MOTHERS WHO ALL NIGHT LONG WITH THESE KIDS, THEY GO
10:47:34AM TO McDONALD'S TO BATHE THEM, GET THEM READY FOR SCHOOL IN
10:47:37AM THE MORNING.
10:47:38AM I'VE SEEN THAT.
10:47:40AM IT'S HEART-WRENCHING.
10:47:43AM I'M HOPING THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPT FOR THIS
10:47:48AM PARK, AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN WAS ABLE TO GET THAT 400,000 TO
10:47:53AM GET THE PARK CONSERVATION GOING, WHERE IS IT GOING TO COME
10:47:56AM FROM?
10:47:57AM COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FIX THE PARK?
10:47:59AM COMING FROM THE CRA DOLLARS TO FIX THIS PARK.
10:48:01AM DOES IT COME FROM PUBLIC DOLLARS TO FIX IT?
10:48:05AM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP WILL HAVE CONTROL OF THE PARK,
10:48:07AM STILL BE OPERATED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA AND NOT THE
10:48:12AM PARTNERSHIP I GOT SEVERAL CALLS, WILL THE PARTNERSHIP BE IN
10:48:16AM CONTROL OF THIS?
10:48:18AM BECAUSE THEY FEEL THE PARTNERSHIP IS IN CONTROL, WE MAY
10:48:20AM AGAIN HAVE A DISDAIN FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE
10:48:24AM BEING IN THAT PARK.
10:48:26AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE ASPECTS,
10:48:31AM THAT ANYBODY CAN GO TO THAT PARK TO -- HOMELESS OR NOT.
10:48:35AM THEY MAY LOOK TERRIBLE, WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY IS TURNED
10:48:41AM AWAY OR FORCED NOT TO BE IN THE PARK.
10:48:43AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE AVENUES ARE REALLY LOOKED AT
10:48:46AM BEFORE I WOULD EVEN MAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
10:48:49AM THANK YOU, SAL.
10:48:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:48:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:48:53AM I LOVE THE PASSION OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN, ALL THREE OF
10:48:59AM YOU, IN REGARD TO THIS ISSUE.
10:49:01AM I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY, ESPECIALLY MR. MANISCALCO, IN
10:49:07AM REGARD TO THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES THAT WE ALL ASSERT ON
10:49:11AM THE WEEKENDS.
10:49:12AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASSERT IT ON THE WEEKDAYS AS
10:49:16AM WELL.
10:49:16AM FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:49:24AM NUMBER ONE IS, IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE
10:49:30AM BENCHES, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IN THIS CITY AND MANY OTHER
10:49:33AM CITIES, THERE ARE BENCHES THAT HAVE BARRIERS OR LITTLE HUMPS
10:49:38AM TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES AND YET STILL
10:49:41AM ALLOW THE BENCHES TO BE FUNCTIONAL FOR SITTING.
10:49:46AM SO IF THAT WAS THE PROBLEM BEFORE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD
10:49:49AM RETURN THE BENCHES TO THE PARK, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
10:49:54AM NOT FOR SLEEPING.
10:49:56AM THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT
10:50:03AM IDEA TO ACTIVATE ALL OF OUR PARKS OR AS MANY PARKS AS
10:50:07AM POSSIBLE WITH VENDORS.
10:50:09AM I SEE THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP LEADERSHIP IS HERE IN THE
10:50:13AM BACK, AND I'M GLAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE SIGNAL TO BE
10:50:18AM WRONG THAT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO PUTTING A
10:50:20AM RESTAURANT IN THAT OR ANY OTHER PARK.
10:50:25AM I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ONE
10:50:27AM OR THE OTHER.
10:50:28AM I THINK WE CAN HAVE BENCHES AND WE CAN HAVE A RESTAURANT
10:50:31AM WITH PROPER SEATING.
10:50:33AM SO I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION TAKES THAT AS A TWO-PRONGED
10:50:37AM APPROACH.
10:50:38AM FINALLY, ON A SLIGHTLY RELATED NOTE, COUNCIL HAS BEEN HAVING
10:50:42AM THIS DISCUSSION ON A WEEKLY BASIS ABOUT A PARK FURTHER UP, A
10:50:46AM SMALL POCKET PARK FURTHER UP THAT'S UNDER RENOVATION, UP
10:50:50AM FRANKLIN --
10:50:52AM >> HERMAN MASSEY.
10:50:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MASSEY PARK, THANK YOU.
10:50:54AM MASSEY PARK, WHERE YOU HAVE A NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO WANTS
10:50:58AM TO DO A RESTAURANT TO ACTIVATE THE PARK THAT WOULD HELP WITH
10:51:01AM THE HOMELESS SITUATION.
10:51:03AM IT'S THE EXACT SAME SITUATION AND YET SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
10:51:07AM GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF TRACTION OR COOPERATION WITH THE
10:51:09AM CITY.
10:51:09AM AND I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT SHE
10:51:13AM WANTS TO DO AND WHAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND THE PARKS
10:51:17AM DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT ON THIS ONE.
10:51:19AM THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON THAT ONE.
10:51:25AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I JUST WANT TO RESPOND.
10:51:27AM THERE WAS A MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT WITH THE DOWNTOWN
10:51:30AM CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
10:51:34AM DEVELOP A CAFE AT HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
10:51:38AM AND THERE HAVE BEEN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, AND THE
10:51:41AM ADMINISTRATION HAS MET WITH THEM AS WELL.
10:51:44AM IT'S NOT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THE CITY IS IN ANY WAY
10:51:46AM REJECTING IT OR TRYING TO STYMIE IT.
10:51:50AM THE CITY IS, IN FACT, WORKING WITH THEM NOW.
10:51:52AM WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH A REPORT AT YOUR CRA
10:51:54AM MEETING ON THAT PARK, THE HERMAN MASSEY PARK, ON
10:51:57AM DECEMBER 14th.
10:52:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I
10:52:04AM WASN'T PRIVY TO THAT MEETING A WEEK AGO, BUT I'LL TELL YOU
10:52:07AM MY STATEMENT WAS PRETTY ACCURATE UP UNTIL A WEEK AGO.
10:52:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:52:11AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:52:11AM I'LL PUT IN MY TWO CENTS.
10:52:13AM I SPOKE TO MR. FRAGO, WHO IS HERE ABOUT IT, AND THE TAMPA
10:52:17AM BAY TIMES.
10:52:18AM I ECHO SOME CONCERNS.
10:52:19AM ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS JUST TAKING OUR CONGREGATING SPACE
10:52:24AM DOWNTOWN AND THE IDEA OF TAKING GREENSPACE, CONGREGATING
10:52:27AM SPACE AND TURNING IT COMMERCIAL IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I'M
10:52:30AM VERY SUSPICIOUS OF, EVEN ON A LEVEL LIKE THIS, I AM.
10:52:34AM THERE'S A LOT TO BE LOOKED AT IN THIS.
10:52:38AM A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AND DIALOGUES TO BE HAD.
10:52:40AM TALKING RELIGIOUS, YOU CAN CALL ME A DOUBTING THOMAS RIGHT
10:52:43AM NOW.
10:52:43AM LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
10:52:44AM THERE WE GO.
10:52:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:52:46AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:52:47AM WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED WITH THIS.
10:52:49AM WE ARE AT NUMBER 104 WAS MS. KERT AND 105 AND THEN WE
10:52:55AM WILL --
10:52:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [INAUDIBLE]
10:52:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I'M SORRY.
10:52:59AM I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT IN THE BEGINNING.
10:53:01AM MR. SHELBY REMINDED ME.
10:53:04AM I HAD A BUSY WEEK IN MY LAW PRACTICE.
10:53:08AM I'LL BE CONTINUING THAT ANOTHER WEEK.
10:53:10AM 104, MS. KERT.
10:53:15AM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:53:16AM REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:53:18AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 104, WHICH WAS A REQUEST TO PREPARE AN
10:53:22AM ORDINANCE NOTIFYING CITIZENS OF DEMOLITIONS WITHIN THE CITY
10:53:25AM OF TAMPA.
10:53:27AM I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS MADE SO I DID GO
10:53:29AM BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEOTAPE.
10:53:31AM I'M SURE YOU ALL RECALL THAT THE GENESIS OF THIS WAS A
10:53:34AM CITIZEN HAD COME DOWN AND HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT A DEMOLITION
10:53:38AM TO WHICH THEY HAD NO NOTICE OF.
10:53:41AM AND THAT THERE WERE ALSO REPORTS THAT THERE WERE DUST AND
10:53:44AM DEBRIS, AND THAT THERE WERE PROBABLY CODE VIOLATIONS GOING
10:53:48AM ON WITH THAT DEMOLITION.
10:53:49AM I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GUDES ALSO TESTIFIED THAT HE WAS OUT
10:53:51AM THERE AND VERIFIED THAT AND HAD SOME ISSUES TRYING TO FIGURE
10:53:54AM OUT HOW TO BRING THAT INTO ENFORCEMENT.
10:53:56AM THERE WAS AN INITIAL REPORT, AND THE FOLLOW-UP FROM THAT
10:53:59AM REPORT WAS A REQUEST TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE NOTIFYING
10:54:03AM CITIZENS OF THE DEMOLITION.
10:54:04AM IN DOING MY RESEARCH ON THIS I STARTED WITH THE FLORIDA
10:54:09AM BUILDING CODE.
10:54:10AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, THE STATE HAS DETERMINED THAT
10:54:13AM THEY WANT A UNIFORM STATE BUILDING CODE THAT COVERS THE AREA
10:54:16AM OF DEMOLITIONS.
10:54:18AM THE STATE HAS ALLOWED FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AMENDMENTS TO IT,
10:54:23AM BUT IT'S A VERY CONSCRIBED PROCESS.
10:54:27AM THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU CAN
10:54:30AM DO AN AMENDMENT REGARDING DEMOLITIONS.
10:54:32AM ONE OF THEM IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT
10:54:35AM THAT CREATES A REVIEW BOARD FOR ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS, AND
10:54:38AM WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE CURRENTLY.
10:54:40AM IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO FOLLOW UP ON WITH THE COUNTY TO
10:54:44AM SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL TO
10:54:48AM GET THIS COMPLIANCE REVIEW ESTABLISHED.
10:54:52AM AFTER THAT, THERE HAS TO BE A FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS OF EACH
10:54:55AM AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GO FORWARD IF IT'S A TECHNICAL
10:54:58AM AMENDMENT.
10:54:58AM TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, I JUST WOULD WANT COUNCIL TO BE
10:55:01AM AWARE THAT ANY AMENDMENT THAT YOU DID PUT FORWARD, IF WE GOT
10:55:04AM THROUGH THOSE STEPS, WOULD ONLY BE IN EFFECT FOR THE TERM OF
10:55:07AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, WHICH IS THREE YEARS, AND THEN
10:55:10AM THE AMENDMENT.
10:55:11AM IT GOES UP TO THE STATE.
10:55:12AM THEY EITHER ADOPT IT STATEWIDE OR THEY REJECT IT, IN WHICH
10:55:16AM CASE EVERY THREE YEARS YOU WOULD HAVE TO READOPT IT.
10:55:19AM RIGHT NOW I'M NOT IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN BRING SOMETHING
10:55:21AM TO YOU BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT CREATING
10:55:26AM FOR THIS AND ANY FUTURE ONES BUT I'M NOT IN THE POSITION AT
10:55:29AM THIS TIME TO PRESENT AN ORDINANCE.
10:55:35AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR RESEARCH.
10:55:36AM I DON'T QUESTION IT AT ALL.
10:55:38AM YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY THOROUGH.
10:55:40AM MY QUESTION, THOUGH, RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO -- IF
10:55:45AM YOU'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN AND
10:55:48AM PULL A CITY PERMIT.
10:55:49AM >>REBECCA KERT: CORRECT.
10:55:50AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PURSUANT TO STATE
10:55:52AM STATUTE OR PURSUANT TO CITY CODE OR BOTH.
10:55:55AM BUT I GUESS ON A VERY SIMPLIFIED BASIS, IF WE EXTRAPOLATED
10:55:59AM THAT PROCESS, WHICH I KNOW IT ALREADY EXISTS, YOU HAVE TO GO
10:56:03AM GET A PERMIT, THEN WE SAID, AND, BY THE WAY, YOU WOULD NEED
10:56:07AM TO POST THAT ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AS SORT OF A
10:56:12AM FRIENDLY LITTLE AMENDMENT OR ADDITION TO THE CURRENT
10:56:15AM REQUIREMENT, I WONDER IF THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE STATUTE THAT
10:56:20AM YOU REFERENCED OR THE BUILDING CODE.
10:56:23AM OBVIOUSLY, THAT OTHER PROCESS SOUNDS VERY COMPLICATED AND
10:56:27AM CUMBERSOME IN TERMS OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING
10:56:30AM ELSE.
10:56:31AM >>REBECCA KERT: COUNCILMAN, I DID CONSIDER THAT, AND THAT IS
10:56:34AM PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS PROPOSING TO BRING BACK TO YOU WHEN I
10:56:36AM STARTED WITH THIS.
10:56:37AM CERTAINLY, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW HELPFUL IT WOULD BE WHEN
10:56:40AM THERE'S A DEMOLITION GOING ON NEXT TO YOU AND PEOPLE AREN'T
10:56:42AM AWARE OF IT, TO HAVE AT LEAST A PHONE NUMBER OF WHO TO
10:56:45AM CONTACT.
10:56:46AM BUT THAT IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF UNIFORMITY THAT THE STATE
10:56:48AM EXPECTS ACROSS THIS STATE, AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF
10:56:52AM THING THAT WOULD REQUIRE, WOULD TRIGGER THIS.
10:56:55AM THERE ARE CERTAIN AMENDMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
10:56:58AM THE PROCESS BUT THEY ONLY DEAL WITH ENFORCEMENT.
10:57:01AM UNFORTUNATELY -- I DID LOOK TO SEE WHAT AVENUES WE COULD
10:57:05AM TAKE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
10:57:07AM I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
10:57:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW I'LL PROBABLY GET STAFF PUSH-BACK
10:57:12AM ON THIS NEXT IDEA, WHICH IS RELATED, BUT PERHAPS, IF IT'S
10:57:16AM SOMETHING WE'RE REAL SERIOUS ABOUT, PERHAPS WE COULD GO OUT
10:57:21AM AND POST THAT PERMIT AND NOT MAKE IT AN OBLIGATION OF THE
10:57:26AM DEMOLISHMENT, IF WE FELT IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT.
10:57:30AM I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD TRIGGER ANYTHING BECAUSE WE
10:57:38AM WOULDN'T BE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO DO ANYTHING.
10:57:42AM >>REBECCA KERT: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ITSELF WOULD TRIGGER
10:57:45AM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ANALYSIS.
10:57:48AM THAT BEING SAID, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE
10:57:52AM BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND AN ANALYSIS DONE BEFORE THAT
10:57:54AM HAPPENED.
10:57:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:57:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MS. KERT, FOR YOUR WORK.
10:58:01AM I ALWAYS SAY, DON'T SAY WHAT WE CAN DO, LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN
10:58:06AM DO.
10:58:06AM SOMETHING WE CAN DO, I WANT TO GO FORWARD TO SEE WHAT WE CAN
10:58:09AM DO.
10:58:10AM BECAUSE IT WAS A CONCERN.
10:58:11AM THAT WASN'T THE ONLY HOUSE I WITNESSED.
10:58:14AM A COUPLE OF HOUSES DONE THAT WAY.
10:58:16AM I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT SOMETHING IS GOING
10:58:20AM ON.
10:58:20AM CHILD CARE CENTERS AROUND THESE FACILITIES.
10:58:25AM KIDS ARE OUT PLAYING, HAVE ASTHMA, ALL KINDS OF ALLERGIES.
10:58:29AM THE STENCH FROM A LOT OF THE HOMES, A LOT OF THEM ARE OLD,
10:58:33AM ABANDONED, LEAD PAINT IN THE HOUSES.
10:58:36AM A LOT OF THEM HAVE A LOT OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA THAT'S ALL
10:58:40AM UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE AND INSIDE THE PLACE.
10:58:42AM FECES AND EVERYTHING.
10:58:43AM I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:58:46AM I HATE TO PUT A LOT OF WORK ON YOU.
10:58:48AM SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAME AND ASKED ME, AND I DON'T
10:58:50AM WANT TO BE A PERSON TO SAY, WELL, WE WON'T DO NOTHING.
10:58:54AM TOO MUCH WORK FOR US.
10:58:56AM WE CAN LOOK INTO IT FURTHER, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
10:58:58AM >>REBECCA KERT: COUNCILMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING
10:59:00AM FOR, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE COMING TO YOU ALL AND SAYING THERE
10:59:04AM ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN DO, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE
10:59:07AM OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TO PROVIDE ALL OF YOUR
10:59:10AM OFFICES WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS
10:59:12AM DOES COME, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT
10:59:16AM WHO TO CONTACT IN THE SITUATION.
10:59:19AM I'LL TAKE THAT UPON MYSELF PERSONALLY TO PROVIDE THAT.
10:59:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST PROCEDURALLY, IF WE'RE DONE WITH
10:59:25AM THAT, ITEM 66, MR. SNELLING WAS HERE.
10:59:31AM I THINK MS. McCLEARY WAS HERE ALSO.
10:59:35AM IT HAD BEEN PULLED.
10:59:36AM I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA THAT'S NOW PULLED.
10:59:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: 66 OR 56?
10:59:45AM YOU MEAN THE EDC?
10:59:47AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
10:59:49AM IT WAS THE CDBG.
10:59:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
10:59:55AM MY APOLOGIES.
10:59:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WAS A FRIENDLY PULL.
11:00:00AM I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
11:00:03AM SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH CDBG MONEY AND I THOUGHT
11:00:06AM IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GIVE A COUPLE-MINUTES UPDATE ON CDBG AND
11:00:10AM HOW THAT WORKS.
11:00:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY QUICKLY, PLEASE.
11:00:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE HERE.
11:00:13AM AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME.
11:00:17AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: GOOD MORNING.
11:00:18AM VANESSA McCLEARY, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
11:00:19AM MANAGEMENT, CITY OF TAMPA.
11:00:20AM ITEM 66 IS THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES AGREEMENT, AND IT IS PART
11:00:25AM OF THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
11:00:30AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VANESSA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I SAID
11:00:33AM 66, BUT THIS WOULD BE RELATED TO ALL THE -- YOU HAVE LIKE
11:00:37AM EIGHT OF THEM ON THE AGENDA.
11:00:40AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO EVERY YEAR, WE DO AN ANNUAL ACTION
11:00:45AM PLAN FOR HUD.
11:00:48AM THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
11:00:55AM SO THERE IS A CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT COVERS FIVE YEARS.
11:00:55AM EVERY YEAR YOU DO AN ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, AND THAT IS FOR OUR
11:00:59AM ALLOCATION.
11:01:00AM AS PART OF THE ACTION PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY STARTS IN MARCH,
11:01:02AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:01:04AM WE HAVE A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE
11:01:07AM GOING TO START THE PROCESS.
11:01:08AM WE HAVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOPS TO LET NONPROFITS
11:01:12AM KNOW HOW THEY CAN GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR THE FUNDS.
11:01:16AM ONCE WE GET ALL OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS AND WE DO A
11:01:19AM RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR, WE THEN PULL TOGETHER THE
11:01:21AM ACTION PLAN THAT OUTLINES HOW THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT.
11:01:24AM THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:01:29AM THAT HAPPENED ON MAY 23rd.
11:01:31AM IT OPENS A 30-DAY COMMENT PERIOD.
11:01:34AM THAT CLOSED ON JUNE 23rd.
11:01:37AM AND THEN AFTER THE COMMENT PERIOD, WE SUBMIT TO HUD.
11:01:42AM THERE IS A LAG BETWEEN WHEN THE ACTION PLAN IS DONE AND WHEN
11:01:46AM THE AGREEMENTS COME OUT.
11:01:47AM SO FOR SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, THERE IS ACTUALLY A
11:01:52AM THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE OUR NOTICE FROM
11:01:56AM HUD UNTIL OCTOBER 23rd.
11:01:59AM THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW THAT THE MONIES ARE AVAILABLE.
11:02:02AM WE GET OUR GRANT AGREEMENTS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
11:02:06AM WITH THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE AGENCIES FOR THE FUNDS THAT
11:02:09AM WERE ALLOCATED IN THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
11:02:11AM SO THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED, WAS APPROVED BACK IN JULY.
11:02:15AM WENT TO HUD IN AUGUST.
11:02:17AM WE JUST GOT OUR LETTER.
11:02:18AM AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 DIFFERENT ITEMS,
11:02:22AM AGREEMENTS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
11:02:24AM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, AND
11:02:27AM THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE THREE-YEAR AGREEMENTS, SO THEY ARE
11:02:31AM COVERED IN THAT WAY.
11:02:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:02:35AM YES, SIR.
11:02:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. McCLEARY, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT.
11:02:40AM THE REASON I ASKED TO PULL IT, NOT BECAUSE I'M OPPOSED.
11:02:43AM THE CONTRARY.
11:02:44AM I'M TREMENDOUSLY IN FAVOR OF IT.
11:02:45AM I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE MANY FOLKS IN THE
11:02:48AM COMMUNITY OFTEN ASK US, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR LESS
11:02:55AM ADVANTAGED PARTS OF TOWN AND LESS ADVANTAGED PEOPLE,
11:02:57AM DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY?
11:02:59AM I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE THAT SORT OF SLIPS BY
11:03:04AM WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF NOTICE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
11:03:08AM NOT YOUR FAULT.
11:03:09AM IN THIS CASE, IT'S $3 MILLION I THINK IS THE TOTAL CDBG
11:03:16AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CONTRIBUTION.
11:03:20AM I JUST SAW IT ON YOUR LETTER -- ON THAT LETTER --
11:03:24AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SORRY, $3 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED THIS
11:03:26AM YEAR, YES.
11:03:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TOTAL ALLOCATION 3 MILLION.
11:03:30AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: WE HAVE OTHER FUNDS THAT WERE FROM
11:03:32AM PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE ACTION PLAN.
11:03:35AM TOTAL OF THE ACTION PLAN WAS ABOUT 15 MILLION.
11:03:39AM I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME, THE BREAKDOWN AS TO WHAT WAS OUT
11:03:43AM OF CDBG.
11:03:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:03:46AM AS I LOOK THROUGH THESE PLANS, I THINK THEY'RE REALLY --
11:03:49AM THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS GOING ON WITH THE -- YOU KNOW,
11:03:54AM WITH HELPING THE BLIND, HELPING PEOPLE -- REMIND ME OF JUST
11:04:00AM A FEW OF THEM.
11:04:01AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: WE HAVE HOUSING COUNSELING TO HELP
11:04:04AM PEOPLE WITH STABILIZING THEIR HOUSING NEEDS, WHETHER RENTAL
11:04:06AM OR HOME OWNERSHIP.
11:04:08AM WE HAD SPECIAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE, SO WE DO WORK WITH
11:04:12AM LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND.
11:04:13AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS,
11:04:16AM PEOPLE WITH HIV AND AIDS.
11:04:19AM THERE IS A LARGE VARIETY OF FUNDING, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD
11:04:26AM -- PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING OUT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOT
11:04:28AM AWARE, THAT'S WHY WE HAD THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIR ON THE
11:04:32AM 26th WHERE WE BROUGHT ALL OF THOSE AGENCIES INTO ONE
11:04:35AM SPACE.
11:04:36AM WE WILL DO THAT AGAIN IN JANUARY.
11:04:39AM WE'RE JUST TRYING TO NAIL DOWN A LOCATION.
11:04:42AM SO THE END OF JANUARY, BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY WE'LL DO
11:04:44AM ANOTHER ONE.
11:04:45AM WE'RE GOING TO DO THEM QUARTERLY JUST SO THAT WE CAN BRING
11:04:48AM THESE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE
11:04:52AM PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE FUNDING.
11:04:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S EXACTLY THE INFORMATION I WANTED
11:04:54AM TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:04:56AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:04:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES, REALLY QUICK, BECAUSE WE
11:04:59AM HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:04:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I KNOW.
11:05:01AM TWO THINGS, I HAD ASKED A WHILE AGO ABOUT THE COMMUNITY
11:05:06AM BLOCK GRANTS AND WHO'S DOING THIS MONEY, DISTRIBUTING IT TO.
11:05:12AM GLAD TO HAVE SOME IDEA NOW.
11:05:13AM BUT I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, REHAB.
11:05:20AM A LOT MORE MONEY NEEDS TO BE PUT IN REHAB IN THESE
11:05:23AM COMMUNITIES.
11:05:24AM THAT I THINK WOULD BE A KEY TO BUILDING AND IN KEEPING THE
11:05:27AM ASSETS IN THE COMMUNITY AND KEEPING THE PEOPLE IN THE
11:05:30AM COMMUNITY.
11:05:30AM AS I TRAVEL THE COUNTRY, I SEE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THESE NEW
11:05:34AM IDEAS OF HAVING HANDYMAN TRAILERS TO WHERE THE OUTSIDE
11:05:37AM CONTRACTOR CAN HAVE PEOPLE GO OUT IN COMMUNES AND FIX ROOFS,
11:05:41AM DO PAINTING.
11:05:42AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE CERTAIN GUIDELINES OR OUR OWN
11:05:46AM GUIDELINES VERSUS FEDERAL GUIDELINES, BUT LOOKING AT PUTTING
11:05:48AM MORE MONEY INTO REHABBING THESE BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES.
11:05:53AM PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MONEY.
11:05:56AM YOU HAVE AN OLDER PERSON WHO CAN'T GET A LOAN OR CAN'T FIX
11:05:59AM THE PLACE UP BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A FIXED INCOME.
11:06:03AM THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE MONEY GO TO HEAVILY
11:06:06AM TO LOOK AT REHAB AND ALSO, WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE, A GREAT
11:06:11AM JOB, YOUR PEOPLE DID FOR US AND THE COUNCIL, BUT I'D ALSO
11:06:15AM LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT OF THE PROS AND CONS SO COUNCIL CAN
11:06:20AM KNOW IN THE FUTURE, WHEN OTHER COUNCILMEN WANT TO PUT ON
11:06:23AM HOUSING SEMINARS.
11:06:26AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: COUNCILMAN, JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE, WE
11:06:27AM DO PUT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY INTO OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB.
11:06:34AM TWO MILLION DOLLARS IS ACTUALLY GOING IN THIS YEAR.
11:06:35AM WE DID TWO MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.
11:06:36AM WE DIDN'T USE ALL OF THE FUNDING.
11:06:38AM I'M HAPPY TO TAKE MORE, BUT I NEED A RESOURCE AS TO WHERE TO
11:06:44AM GET IT FROM AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND UTILIZE
11:06:47AM THE PROGRAM THAT IS AVAILABLE.
11:06:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG -- I KNOW YOU HAVE A
11:06:53AM LIST.
11:06:54AM WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG FOR FOLKS APPROVED TO GET REHAB DONE?
11:06:58AM WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THAT.
11:06:59AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO I WILL ACCEPT THAT FROM OUR OFFICE,
11:07:04AM WE WERE UNDERSTAFFED FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
11:07:08AM WE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN STAFFED UP, THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL
11:07:10AM AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT.
11:07:12AM AND ALL OF THOSE REHABS ARE STARTING TO MOVE.
11:07:15AM WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THEM ALL COMPLETED -- THE MAJORITY
11:07:20AM COMPLETED BY DECEMBER AND ALL OF THEM COMPLETED BY MARCH
11:07:22AM THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW.
11:07:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:07:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:07:27AM NOW, BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR LAST ITEM, 93, 94, 95, DOES
11:07:32AM ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE?
11:07:34AM BECAUSE THOSE ARE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
11:07:36AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE STAFF HERE
11:07:38AM WAITING, 93, 94, 95.
11:07:41AM LET ME KNOW, PLEASE.
11:07:44AM I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:07:46AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
11:07:47AM THAT'S THE LAST ONE BEFORE WE GO TO 105.
11:07:53AM ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR 93, 94,
11:07:57AM OR 95?
11:07:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:08:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHICH ONE, SIR?
11:08:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 94.
11:08:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S HURRY UP AND DO 94.
11:08:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND 95.
11:08:10AM THEY ARE RELATED.
11:08:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT WITHIN SEVEN
11:08:20AM MINUTES.
11:08:22AM >> MARK WILFALK, DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE, ENVIRONMENTAL
11:08:25AM PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
11:08:26AM BEFORE YOU TODAY, ONE OF ITEM FOR MCKAY BAY TRANSFER
11:08:30AM STATION.
11:08:31AM CURRENT TRANSFER STATION WE HAVE AT MCKAY BAY IS UNDERSIZED.
11:08:36AM WHEN I INITIALLY STARTED DOING RESEARCH ON THIS PROJECT,
11:08:39AM REALIZED THAT IT WAS DEDICATED IN I BELIEVE 1983.
11:08:43AM IT WAS MAYOR MARTINEZ THEN AND OUR POPULATION WAS PROBABLY
11:08:46AM AROUND 250,000.
11:08:49AM SINCE THEN, OBVIOUSLY, TAMPA HAS EXPANDED EXPONENTIALLY.
11:08:53AM WE'RE APPROACHING 500,000.
11:08:55AM NOW WE HAVE A TRANSFER STATION THAT IS UNDER SIZE TO SERVE
11:09:00AM OUR POPULATION.
11:09:00AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WELL WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, CONTRACT
11:09:05AM ADMIN, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, TO COME UP WITH THE CORRECT
11:09:08AM DESIGN AND A FACILITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OUR
11:09:13AM NEEDS.
11:09:13AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:09:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:09:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. WILFALK.
11:09:19AM THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR FOLKS DO WITH
11:09:24AM SOLID WASTE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
11:09:26AM AS SOMEBODY WHO USES THE TRANSFER STATION AND THE CITY DUMP
11:09:33AM OUT THERE WITH MY TRUCK PERIODICALLY, I APPRECIATE THE FACT
11:09:38AM WE'RE DOING A NEW ONE AND WE NEED IT BADLY.
11:09:42AM SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE THIS -- THESE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
11:09:47AM WHAT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THIS WEEK THAT I USUALLY DO
11:09:52AM IS CALL GREG HART AND ASK HIM ABOUT MINORITY VENDORS'
11:09:59AM OPPORTUNITIES ON THIS -- THIS IS A BIG ONE.
11:10:01AM IT'S $35 MILLION FOR ITEM 94.
11:10:05AM THE OTHER ONE I THINK WAS $9 MILLION.
11:10:07AM BUT SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO US DOING A GMP, GUARANTEED
11:10:13AM MAXIMUM PRICE, AGREEMENT WITH -- I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN
11:10:16AM PRONOUNCE THAT -- KOKOLAKIS CONTRACTING, DO WE HAVE A GOAL
11:10:23AM SET FOR THEM ALREADY PREESTABLISHED IN TERMS OF MINORITY
11:10:26AM VENDORS?
11:10:27AM >>MARK WILFALK: YES, THAT GOAL HAS BEEN SET.
11:10:30AM IT WAS PREESTABLISHED AND IT HAS BEEN MET.
11:10:33AM THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH IS
11:10:35AM ALSO DOING A SIMILAR PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF CLEARWATER.
11:10:37AM THEY SHOULD BE NEARING COMPLETION.
11:10:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE GOAL?
11:10:41AM I COULDN'T FIND IT ON QUICK REVIEW IN THE CONTRACT.
11:10:46AM DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS?
11:10:48AM >> I'D HAVE TO FOLLOW BACK UP WITH YOU ON THAT.
11:10:51AM I REMEMBER WE SET THE GOALS.
11:10:52AM I JUST DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS IN MY MIND AT THE TIME.
11:10:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT I DID TALK TO
11:10:59AM MR. HART ABOUT IN TODAY'S AGENDA, HE TALKED ABOUT 14%.
11:11:03AM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF IT'S AROUND THAT NUMBER?
11:11:06AM >> I'D RATHER GO BACK AND CONFIRM THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW,
11:11:10AM CONFIRM THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR YOU BEFORE I SAY THAT SOUNDS
11:11:16AM FAMILIAR.
11:11:16AM I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WAS A MAJOR CROSS ROADS THAT WE HAD TO
11:11:19AM GET OVER PRIOR TO GETTING TO THIS POINT.
11:11:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SINCE THIS IS A BIG-TICKET ITEM,
11:11:23AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST ASK THAT WE NOT VOTE ON THAT YET.
11:11:27AM MR. WILFALK I'M SURE CAN CALL GREG HART OR TEXT AND GET THAT
11:11:31AM INFORMATION.
11:11:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE VOTE AT THE END, SO THERE WILL BE TIME.
11:11:35AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:36AM OUR LAST ITEM, 105.
11:11:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, THERE'S GREG.
11:11:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:11:48AM GREGORY HART.
11:11:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION BEFORE YOU
11:11:51AM START ON THIS ONE?
11:11:52AM >> NO, SIR, NOT AT THIS MOMENT.
11:11:54AM I'D LIKE TO PULL THE FILE AND RECORDS.
11:11:56AM GREGORY HART, CITY OF TAMPA, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
11:11:59AM MANAGER.
11:12:00AM THIS MORNING, I'M HERE TO BRING YOU GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF
11:12:08AM MS. BJ WAYMER, THE NFL EVENT EXECUTIVE, AND MS. LAKENDRIA
11:12:15AM ROBERTSON, OUR LOCAL DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS CONNECT AND
11:12:17AM COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR OUR NFL HOST COMMITTEE.
11:12:22AM IN ADDITION, THERE WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE HELD MONDAY, THE
11:12:26AM 4th, AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM TO KICK OFF THE SUPER
11:12:29AM BOWL LV SUPPLIER DIVERSITY PROGRAM.
11:12:31AM IT'S TITLED "BUSINESS CONNECT."
11:12:35AM FORMERLY KNOWN AS "EMERGING BUSINESS PROGRAM."
11:12:39AM THE PREVIOUS SUPER BOWL HELD HERE IN TAMPA.
11:12:43AM ABOUT BUSINESS CONNECT, LET ME JUST BRIEFLY AND QUICKLY
11:12:50AM SHARE WITH YOU --
11:12:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE COULDN'T GET A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
11:12:56AM COMMITTEE HERE TODAY?
11:12:58AM >> YES, WE DID.
11:12:58AM BOTH ARE UNAVAILABLE.
11:13:00AM I DID HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFING WITH BOTH OF THEM.
11:13:03AM MS. WAYMER HAD TO RETURN.
11:13:05AM I THINK IT WAS TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY MORNING TO THE NFL
11:13:08AM EXECUTIVE OFFICES.
11:13:09AM OUR LOCAL DIRECTOR, LAKENDRIA I BELIEVE IS IN ST. PETE DOING
11:13:15AM A PRESENTATION.
11:13:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'D LIKE IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY COME
11:13:18AM BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO THE COUNCIL CAN KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE
11:13:20AM ARE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:13:22AM THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT.
11:13:24AM WE'LL GO WITH THE PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT I DO WANT THEM TO
11:13:27AM COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL SO THIS COUNCIL CAN KNOW WHO THESE
11:13:30AM PEOPLE ARE, WHAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING, AND GET FAMILIAR
11:13:32AM WITH THE PROGRAM OF THE BOWL.
11:13:35AM >> SURE THING.
11:13:36AM I'LL COMMUNICATE THAT AS WELL.
11:13:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: ABOUT HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION?
11:13:40AM >> 60 SECONDS, A MINUTE.
11:13:42AM I'LL CUT IT REALLY BRIEF.
11:13:44AM AGAIN, ABOUT BUSINESS CONNECT, JUST QUICKLY, IT'S TO CONNECT
11:13:48AM LOCAL DIVERSE BUSINESSES TO CONTRACT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SUPER
11:13:53AM BOWL LV.
11:13:54AM ALL CONTRACTS RELATED TO BUSINESS CONNECT ARE SPECIAL EVENT
11:13:57AM PRODUCTION CONTRACTS TO PREPARE LOCAL DIVERSE BUSINESSES FOR
11:14:01AM CONTRACTS BY HAVING THEM PARTICIPATE IN A SERIES OF BUSINESS
11:14:04AM DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOPS.
11:14:05AM THE WORKSHOPS WILL RANGE FROM PREPARING A HIGH-QUALITY,
11:14:08AM CAPABILITY STATEMENT, UNDERSTANDING THE RFP PROCESS, AND
11:14:12AM LEVERAGING THE BUSINESS CONNECT EXPERIENCE TO GROW IN OUR
11:14:16AM LOCAL MARKET.
11:14:17AM THIS EFFORT IS GOING TO PROVIDE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
11:14:21AM OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO CONNECT WITH EACH MEMBER OF THE NFL
11:14:29AM CONTRACTING COMPONENT.
11:14:30AM WITH THAT, BUSINESS CONNECT WILL SELECT A MAXIMUM OF 300
11:14:35AM BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BUSINESS CONNECT PROGRAM.
11:14:38AM THE BUSINESS CONNECT DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTRACTS.
11:14:43AM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER BUSINESSES ARE AWARDED A CONTRACT OR
11:14:46AM NOT, THEY WILL BE GUARANTEED FULL ACCESS TO THE BUSINESS
11:14:49AM CONNECT BENEFITS, INCLUDING BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING
11:14:51AM AND NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES.
11:14:53AM THAT BEING SAID, ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 12th, WE'RE
11:14:59AM GOING TO BE KICKING OFF, ALONG WITH OUR NFL PARTNERS AT THE
11:15:02AM JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER, AN EVENT, WORKSHOP AND
11:15:07AM INTRODUCTION.
11:15:08AM THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT NOW ON THE OVERHEAD.
11:15:12AM WITH THAT SAID, I WILL CONCLUDE BY LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE
11:15:17AM KICKOFF IS UNDERWAY.
11:15:21AM IT'S A YEAR IN ADVANCE.
11:15:24AM SUPER BOWL LV WILL BE HELD IN 2021.
11:15:27AM THE NFL DID LEARN FROM PREVIOUS EFFORTS THAT THE EARLIER THE
11:15:31AM BETTER.
11:15:31AM THANK YOU.
11:15:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:15:33AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:15:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:15:37AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:15:38AM NOW WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM IS THE EDC CONTRACT 56.
11:15:48AM I'LL TAKE THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:15:50AM I THINK THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
11:15:51AM NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:15:54AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA
11:15:56AM OR OTHERWISE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
11:16:01AM THREE MINUTES A PERSON.
11:16:01AM AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY FOR THE DELAY.
11:16:02AM WE HAD A VERY ROBUST AGENDA, AND WE TRIED TO MOVE IT ALONG
11:16:05AM AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE.
11:16:08AM PLEASE ACCEPT OUR AND MY, AS THE CHAIR, SINCERE APOLOGIES
11:16:11AM FOR THE TIME WAITING.
11:16:13AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:16:14AM >> THANK GOD FOR THIS HERE MOMENT BECAUSE YOU ALL SEEM LIKE
11:16:18AM YOU WANT TO BLOCK US OUT.
11:16:19AM BUT WE THANK GOD WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND
11:16:22AM SPEAK TO YOU.
11:16:24AM I NOTICE, DIDN'T SEE NO WOMAN UP THERE.
11:16:27AM HAVE A TRUE REPRESENTATIVE OF BLACK PEOPLE.
11:16:36AM IN GOD WE TRUST AND LOVE ALL.
11:16:39AM PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN COOPERATION WITH
11:16:42AM PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS SENIOR AND FAMILY.
11:16:44AM 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
11:16:46AM HE THAT BELIEVE ON THE SON HAS EVERLASTING LIFE AND HE THAT
11:16:51AM BELIEVEETH NOT IN THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIGHT BUT THE WRATH
11:16:56AM OF GOD SHALL ABIDE ON HIM.
11:16:58AM GOD IS ANGRY WITH THE WICKED.
11:17:00AM THAT'S BOOK OF ROMANS 8:28 AND 35 TO 39.
11:17:05AM WE HAVE A LOT OF HATRED GOING ON IN THE UNITED STATES OF
11:17:15AM AMERICA.
11:17:16AM SEEMS LIKE YOU HATE BLACK FOLKS FOR WHAT THEY STAND FOR.
11:17:22AM I LEFT A PHONE NUMBER FOR YOU TO CALL ME BUT YOU NEVER
11:17:25AM RETURNED MY CALL.
11:17:26AM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU AND YOUR COUNCIL, COME DOWN TO MY
11:17:32AM CHURCH AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL SOME EVIDENCE OF HOW THEY
11:17:35AM MISTREATING OUR CHURCH.
11:17:38AM CAN YOU ALL DO THAT FOR ME?
11:17:39AM OKAY.
11:17:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL CHECK WITH MY AIDE ABOUT YOUR CALL.
11:17:47AM I REMEMBER I SET AN APPOINTMENT AND I WENT DOWN TO YOUR
11:17:50AM PLACE AND WE MISSED THAT CONNECTION.
11:17:53AM I'LL CALL AND REACH OUT TO YOU AGAIN.
11:17:56AM >> YEAH, PLEASE.
11:17:58AM ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE A DEDICATION TO THIS CITY COUNCIL HERE.
11:18:06AM PUT IT HERE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.
11:18:08AM THE WAY YOU SEEM TO RUN THE ORGANIZATION, SO YOU NEED TO
11:18:11AM CHANGE THE NAME TO THE KU KLUX KLAN BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY
11:18:16AM YOU SEEM TO RUN IT.
11:18:17AM YOU DON'T SEEM TO RESPECT PEOPLE OF COLOR.
11:18:20AM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE WERE CREATED BY GOD ALMIGHTY, ALL
11:18:23AM OF US, NOBODY IS NO BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE, BECAUSE OF THE
11:18:27AM COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, YOU LOOK AT YOURSELF AND THINK YOU'RE
11:18:31AM SUPERIOR, NO, YOU'RE NOT SUPERIOR.
11:18:33AM YOU'RE ONLY SUPERIOR WHEN YOU'VE GOT JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR
11:18:37AM LIFE.
11:18:37AM I THANK GOD FOR JESUS CHRIST.
11:18:38AM THE OTHER THING, PRACTICALLY TRYING TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC
11:18:45AM COMMENT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT ALL THE WHITE FOLKS
11:18:49AM GOT TO SAY AND DON'T WANT TO HEAR NOTHING THE BLACKS FOLKS
11:18:52AM HAVE TO SAY.
11:18:53AM WE'LL GET BUSY.
11:18:55AM WE'LL TALK TO GOD IF WE HAVE TO FAST AND PRAY AND WE'LL MAKE
11:18:58AM SURE GOD TREAT EVERYBODY EQUAL.
11:18:59AM YOU ALL NOT GOING TO MISTREAT GOD'S CHILDREN.
11:19:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:19:06AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:19:09AM >> I'M LEAVING THIS AS A DONATION TO YOU ALL.
11:19:12AM YOU ALL CAN PUT IT IN A PLAQUE AND PUT IT ON THE WALL.
11:19:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:19:16AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:19:26AM >> HI.
11:19:27AM I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE BENCHES IN GASLIGHT PARK AND
11:19:31AM THE CAFE.
11:19:32AM AUSTIN WILLIS.
11:19:34AM FIRST OF ALL, JUST THE WHOLE PROPOSAL OF PUTTING A CAFE IN
11:19:38AM THE PARK BECAUSE, LIKE, WE NEED TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE TO IT
11:19:42AM OR TO THAT AREA OR WE NEED TO PUT -- NEED TO DEVELOP THE
11:19:47AM AREA, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
11:19:48AM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR THE
11:19:52AM BUSINESS GOVERNMENT COOPERATION, WHATEVER, WHAT THEY MEAN BY
11:19:57AM DEVELOPMENT AND LIKE IMPROVING THE AREA MEANS EXTRACTING
11:19:59AM MORE MONEY OUT OF IT.
11:20:01AM BEFORE WE TOOK THE BENCHES OUT, LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE ALREADY
11:20:03AM ENJOYING THE PARK, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD CONGREGATE AND
11:20:06AM HANG OUT IN THE PARK.
11:20:07AM JUST MAYBE NOT LIKE THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE AS MAYOR CASTOR
11:20:12AM WOULD LIKE.
11:20:13AM MAYBE JUST NOT THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE.
11:20:15AM BUT PEOPLE WERE ALREADY ENJOYING THE PARK.
11:20:18AM WE DON'T NEED TO SELL STUFF AND, LIKE, CHARGE FOR ENTRY AT
11:20:21AM THE PARK FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY IT.
11:20:23AM PEOPLE WILL ALREADY ENJOY IT IF YOU JUST PUT THE BENCHES
11:20:29AM BACK.
11:20:30AM I WANTED TO STATE THE OBVIOUS THAT TAKING THE BENCHES OUT
11:20:33AM AND FOR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS NOW, I THINK, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
11:20:37AM BE REPAIRED, I SAT ON THE BENCHES FIVE DAYS BEFORE THEY WERE
11:20:41AM TAKEN OUT.
11:20:42AM THEY WERE FINE.
11:20:42AM THE BENCHES WERE TOTALLY FINE.
11:20:45AM I SAT IN THE BENCHES EVERY WEEK, ONCE A WEEK OR TWICE A
11:20:49AM WEEK.
11:20:49AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BENCHES.
11:20:50AM IT IS VERY SUSPICIOUS THAT THEY WERE REMOVED WHEN THE MAJOR
11:20:53AM SPORTING EVENT WAS IN TOWN.
11:20:55AM I HEARD LOTS OF HOUSELESS PEOPLE TELL ME THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
11:21:00AM TOLD BY POLICE NOT TO BE IN GASLIGHT PARK THAT WEEKEND, THE
11:21:04AM SAME WEEKEND THE BENCHES WERE REMOVED.
11:21:05AM IT'S PLAIN AS DAY THAT IT'S TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM
11:21:09AM CONGREGATING IN THE PARK, UNDESIRABLE PEOPLE.
11:21:13AM WHY DOES IT TAKE SIX MONTHS TO FIX A BENCH?
11:21:15AM IT'S NOT AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE OR SPACESHIP OR
11:21:20AM ANYTHING.
11:21:20AM IT IS A PIECE OF METAL THAT YOU PUT YOUR ASS ON.
11:21:24AM PARKS AND REC HAVE BENCHES.
11:21:25AM IF THEY DON'T HAVE EXTRA BENCHES, WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
11:21:29AM IT IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
11:21:30AM THEY HAVE BENCHES.
11:21:31AM IT'S RIDICULOUS.
11:21:32AM IT IS A LIE THAT THEY CAN'T PUT THE BENCHES BACK.
11:21:35AM IT IS A STRAIGHT-UP LIE.
11:21:37AM THAT'S ALL.
11:21:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:21:40AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:21:40AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:21:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:21:43AM MY NAME IS MIKE PETIT.
11:21:45AM I'M ALSO HERE ON THAT ISSUE.
11:21:47AM IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE AT LEAST FOUR, IF NOT FIVE OF YOU
11:21:51AM ALREADY RECOGNIZE WHAT A BAD IDEA THIS CONCESSION IS.
11:21:54AM I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT EXCEPT TO
11:21:57AM COMMENT, THAT IN THE PAPER IT WAS REPORTED -- AND TAKE IT
11:21:59AM FOR WHAT IT IS -- THAT THE PROPOSAL MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE A
11:22:03AM PAYMENT TO THE CITY FOR THE SPACE.
11:22:06AM THAT'S ASTOUNDING.
11:22:08AM THAT'S ASTOUNDING.
11:22:09AM BUT THE REALITY IS, WE DON'T NEED MORE PLACES TO EAT
11:22:13AM DOWNTOWN.
11:22:13AM THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES TO EAT DOWNTOWN.
11:22:15AM I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD DO TO THE PARK TO
11:22:18AM MAKE IT MORE AMENABLE BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN PARK DESIGN.
11:22:22AM YOU HAVE STAFF FOR THAT.
11:22:23AM I'LL TAKE A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM
11:22:27AM YOU HAVE HERE.
11:22:28AM WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT?
11:22:29AM IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
11:22:32AM I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT JUST A CITY PROBLEM.
11:22:34AM IT'S ALSO A COUNTY PROBLEM AND A STATE PROBLEM.
11:22:36AM WE LIVE IN A STATE THAT HAS A SADOWSKI FUND, WHICH HAS BEEN
11:22:40AM RATED TO THE TUNE OF $2 BILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:22:43AM BY OUR STATE LEGISLATURE WHO SOMEBODY UP THERE TODAY
11:22:48AM CHARACTERIZED MORE LIKE A MISSISSIPPI STATE LEGISLATURE.
11:22:52AM TOTALLY AGREE.
11:22:52AM IT I MA BE WORSE THAN THAT.
11:22:54AM BUT THIS CITY HAS, ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH AND I DON'T
11:23:01AM PRETEND TO BE A GOVERNMENT FINANCE EXPERT, APPROXIMATELY 13
11:23:04AM SOURCES OF FINANCING POTENTIAL.
11:23:06AM INCLUDING BONDING.
11:23:08AM THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO WORK ON DEVELOPING, NOT JUST
11:23:11AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T
11:23:16AM CUT IT SOMETIMES IN THE SOCIETY, FOR WHATEVER REASON,
11:23:20AM TERRIBLE LUCK, TERRIBLE HEALTH.
11:23:22AM ADDICTION, MENTAL CHALLENGES.
11:23:24AM THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELPED ALSO.
11:23:27AM YOU HAVE 22 CITY ATTORNEYS HERE BY MY COUNT, MAYBE ONE OR
11:23:34AM TWO OFF.
11:23:35AM PUT ONE OF THEM ON THIS.
11:23:37AM PUT ONE OF THEM ON THIS.
11:23:38AM LET THEM DO SOME WORK.
11:23:43AM TELL YOU WHAT FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE TO FIX THE
11:23:46AM PROBLEM.
11:23:46AM HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:23:49AM TALK WITH THEM ABOUT HOW TO DO IT COUNTYWIDE.
11:23:52AM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE LEVEL, NOT
11:23:54AM IN MY LIFETIME FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.
11:23:58AM IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING FIXED.
11:23:59AM I HEARD PEOPLE UP HERE EARLIER SPEAKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT
11:24:04AM SOUNDED INTERESTING, SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH PROJECT.
11:24:07AM TALK ABOUT WANT TO FIGHT THE CAUSES OF CRIME.
11:24:10AM PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO BE.
11:24:11AM WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO BE AND THEY ARE HOMELESS,
11:24:14AM THAT CAN BE A CAUSE OF CRIME.
11:24:16AM PETTY CRIME MOST OF THE TIME, STILL A CAUSE OF CRIME.
11:24:19AM WE NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
11:24:20AM IT'S MORE THAN BENCHES.
11:24:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:24:24AM NEXT PLEASE.
11:24:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, GERALDINE ROGERS TUNES.
11:24:34AM THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT
11:24:37AM PLACING ROUNDABOUTS ON 34th STREET IN EAST TAMPA.
11:24:40AM AFTER SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH, I DISCOVERED THAT ROUNDABOUTS
11:24:44AM HAVE BECOME A NATIONAL TREND IN LIEU OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND
11:24:50AM THEY HAVE FAVORABLE REVIEWS FOR REDUCING SERIOUS TRAFFIC
11:24:53AM ACCIDENTS.
11:24:54AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE IDENTIFIES 25 ROUNDABOUTS IN
11:24:58AM TAMPA.
11:24:59AM HOWEVER, THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE A RELATIVELY NEWER DESIGN IN
11:25:05AM TAMPA, AND A MAJOR CHANGE FROM TRADITIONAL DRIVING METHODS.
11:25:10AM PUBLIC EDUCATION SHOULD ACCOMPANY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
11:25:13AM ROUNDABOUTS.
11:25:14AM I COMMEND MAYOR CASTOR FOR BEING RECEPTIVE TO THE CONCERNS
11:25:20AM OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:25:22AM MAYOR CASTOR RESPONDED TO A CITIZEN'S QUESTION REGARDING THE
11:25:26AM PLANNED ROUNDABOUTS FOR 34th STREET WHILE APPEARING ON
11:25:30AM WTMP RADIO STATION.
11:25:31AM ABOUT TWO WEEKS AFTER HER APPEARANCE ON THE SHOW, A PUBLIC
11:25:35AM DEMONSTRATION WAS CONDUCTED AT 40th STREET AND YUKON
11:25:41AM AVENUE TO GIVE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MANEUVER THROUGH
11:25:44AM ROUNDABOUTS AND THE APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC SIGNS WERE
11:25:50AM EVENTUALLY INSTALLED.
11:25:52AM STILL, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IN EAST
11:25:55AM TAMPA WHEN IT COMES TO ADDING NEWLY PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS ON
11:26:00AM 34th STREET.
11:26:02AM IN ALL OF MY RESEARCH, I DIDN'T FIND ANY ROUNDABOUTS LOCATED
11:26:06AM IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR TO ELEMENTARY
11:26:12AM SCHOOLS.
11:26:12AM DID THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT CONSULTANT
11:26:15AM WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CITY'S PARKS
11:26:18AM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT?
11:26:19AM OR ARE WE -- OR WERE ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD IN EAST TAMPA
11:26:28AM TO OBTAIN THE COMMUNITY'S PERSPECTIVE PERTAINING TO
11:26:32AM ROUNDABOUTS BEING ON 34th STREET.
11:26:35AM TWO OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO 34th STREET ARE IN
11:26:38AM RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND PARKS.
11:26:42AM POTTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HEAD START PROGRAM, EAST TAMPA
11:26:47AM ACADEMY CHARTER SCHOOL, FAIR OAKS PARK AND NFL YET CENTER
11:26:54AM ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT SITE.
11:26:56AM THE NFL YET CENTER WILL BE DIRECTLY NEXT TO ONE, MEANING
11:27:00AM WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS IS
11:27:04AM ALSO ALARMING THAT THE ROUNDABOUTS PROPOSED FOR 34th
11:27:07AM STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO CHRIST UNITED
11:27:11AM METHODIST CHURCH.
11:27:13AM I'LL HAVE TO SKIP SOME OF THAT.
11:27:15AM WE MUST ASK OURSELVES, ARE WE ENDANGERING THE HEALTH AND
11:27:19AM SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS AND HANDICAP CHILDREN,
11:27:22AM INDIVIDUALS WITH THE NEWLY PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT LOCATIONS,
11:27:24AM EVEN CHILDREN UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
11:27:28AM RED MEANS STOP AND GREEN MEANS GO.
11:27:31AM MAY I PLEASE COMPLETE WHAT I SAID?
11:27:34AM I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO.
11:27:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:27:37AM >> EVEN CHILDREN UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
11:27:39AM RED MEANS STOP AND GREEN MEANS GO.
11:27:43AM NEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS AND STOPLIGHTS BE INSTALLED?
11:27:47AM IF SO, IS IT FEASIBLE TO HAVE ROUNDABOUTS WHERE TRAFFIC
11:27:50AM LIGHTS WILL STILL BE REQUIRED?
11:27:52AM PLEASE RECONSIDER THE INSTALLATION OF ROUNDABOUTS ON 34th
11:27:56AM STREET FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED REASONS.
11:27:58AM I PRAY SOUND DECISIONS WILL BE MADE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF
11:28:02AM ALL PARTIES COMMUTING ON 34th STREET.
11:28:05AM THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
11:28:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS AND WORDS, MA'AM.
11:28:10AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:28:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:28:16AM MY NAME IS CAROL RANSOM.
11:28:18AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK ABOUT SEVERAL ISSUES I SEE
11:28:22AM LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.
11:28:25AM ONE OF THEM HAD A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.
11:28:27AM SOMEWHERE IN THIS AGENDA WHERE YOU STATED THAT THERE WOULD
11:28:29AM BE A QUITCLAIM DEED FOR PROPERTIES.
11:28:32AM ONE WAS VALUED AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
11:28:34AM THE OTHER WAS STATED FOR $245.
11:28:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO GET MY NAME ON THE LIST SO THE
11:28:42AM CITY OF TAMPA CAN QUITCLAIM SOME PROPERTY, REAL PROPERTIES,
11:28:46AM WHAT IS STATED HERE.
11:28:47AM I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT, BUT I DID READ IT.
11:28:52AM HOW I GET MY NAME ON THE LIST FOR THE PROPERTIES?
11:28:55AM THE NEXT ISSUE I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS ALSO AN ITEM THAT WAS
11:28:58AM LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.
11:28:59AM AND THAT WAS FROM THE LOVELY REPORT WE GOT FROM MR. GREGORY
11:29:03AM HART.
11:29:03AM AND THIS WAS REGARDING THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SUPER BOWL LV
11:29:08AM COMING HERE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:29:09AM YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DID HAVE ANOTHER SUPER BOWL.
11:29:13AM I DO KNOW OF NUMEROUS CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT
11:29:17AM PARTICIPATED IN THE SHENANIGANS THAT WENT ON THAT YEAR.
11:29:21AM THEY PARADED US UP AND DOWN.
11:29:23AM WE SIGNED ALL TYPES OF ATTENDANCE SHEETS.
11:29:25AM WE WENT TO WORKSHOP AFTER WORKSHOP AND DID NOT GET ANYTHING.
11:29:29AM THE KEY TO IT ALL IS CALLED UNBUNDLING.
11:29:34AM IF THEY DON'T SET ASIDE WORK IN SMALLER BUNDLES SO THAT SOME
11:29:39AM OF THE SMALLER COMPANIES THAT EXIST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:29:44AM THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROJECTS.
11:29:47AM ONE OF THE CRITERIA OR STIPULATIONS WAS THAT YOU HAD TO WORK
11:29:53AM -- YOU HAD TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT STADIUM WORK.
11:29:57AM YOU HAD TO PARTICIPATE AND WORK AT A STADIUM PRIOR TO THE
11:30:00AM SUPER BOWL.
11:30:01AM WELL, IF YOU DIDN'T GET WORK THE LAST SUPER BOWL, WHEN DID
11:30:04AM YOU GET WORK AT THE STADIUM?
11:30:07AM SO THAT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO AUTOMATICALLY NOT BE
11:30:10AM SUCCESSFUL.
11:30:11AM THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN YOU HAD THE GENTLEMAN HERE, THE
11:30:15AM NEW WORK THAT'S BEING DONE OVER AT WASTE MANAGEMENT.
11:30:20AM IF YOU UNBUNDLE THE PROJECT, YOU CAN GET MORE PARTICIPATION.
11:30:24AM WHAT HAPPENS IS, AND THIS IS ACROSS EVERY GOVERNMENT.
11:30:27AM WE HAVE CRACKS IN OUR SYSTEMS.
11:30:31AM WHETHER IT'S THE HOMELESS PROBLEM, WHETHER IT'S THE BENCHES
11:30:33AM DOWNTOWN AND COMPANIES AND PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS ARE FALLING
11:30:38AM THROUGH THE CRACKS.
11:30:39AM WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CRACK IS AND HOW TO FIX IT.
11:30:42AM YOU'VE GOT THESE PROGRAMS AND I HEARD YOU SAY MR. GUDES
11:30:45AM ABOUT REHABBING MORE HOMES.
11:30:47AM PROBLEM IN MY COMMUNITY, WE DON'T OWN THE HOME BECAUSE MOM
11:30:50AM AND THEM DIDN'T HAVE A WILL.
11:30:52AM THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WILL, SO THE HOUSE DOESN'T BELONG TO
11:30:55AM ANYBODY, BUT SOMEBODY, USUALLY THE MATRIARCH, LIVES IN THAT
11:30:59AM HOUSE, AND BECAUSE HER NAME IS NOT ON ANYTHING, SHE COULDN'T
11:31:02AM QUALIFY IF YOU BROUGHT HER MONEY DOWN AND POURED IT ON HER.
11:31:07AM SIMPLE FIX.
11:31:08AM 22 CITY ATTORNEYS, IS THAT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID?
11:31:11AM FIGURE IT OUT HOW TO HELP US FIX OUR PROBLEMS.
11:31:14AM WE ARE FALLING BETWEEN THE CRACKS AND IT'S GOING TO GET
11:31:17AM UGLY.
11:31:17AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:31:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:31:19AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:31:20AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:31:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:31:25AM MY NAME IS ED KRONA.
11:31:27AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 102, THE BENCHES DOWN IN GASLIGHT
11:31:31AM PARK.
11:31:32AM I ATTENDED CHURCH, HYDE PARK UNITED METHODIST CHURCH THAT
11:31:40AM THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR PROVIDES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN
11:31:42AM 8,000 AND 10,000 BREAKFAST MEALS TO UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS IN
11:31:44AM OUR CITY.
11:31:45AM THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS THROUGH THE BIBLE STUDY
11:31:48AM THAT FOLLOWS, I HEAR CHALLENGING QUESTIONS, THINGS LIKE, HOW
11:31:54AM DO YOU FOLKS GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY MORNINGS TO WORSHIP A
11:31:58AM SAVIOR WHO WAS FUNCTIONALLY HOMELESS AND THE REST OF THE
11:32:00AM WEEK YOU FORGET ABOUT HIM OR FOR WORSHIPING HOMELESS SAVIOR,
11:32:06AM YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE FOR THEM TO SLEEP AT NIGHT?
11:32:08AM THE CITY MADE A PROMISE.
11:32:11AM IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
11:32:13AM I KNOW NOT EVERYTHING IN THE NEWSPAPER IS ACCURATE.
11:32:19AM PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE THE CITY
11:32:22AM SPOKESPERSON PROMISED TO PUT THOSE BENCHES BACK.
11:32:26AM THEY PROMISED.
11:32:27AM CITY SPOKESPERSON, WHO IS STILL THE CITY'S SPOKESPERSON
11:32:31AM TODAY IS SAYING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
11:32:34AM NOW SAYING WE KNOW THERE WAS THAT PROMISE BUT NOW WE WANT TO
11:32:37AM HAVE A CAFE.
11:32:38AM I GOT HERE ABOUT AN HOUR EARLY.
11:32:40AM I WALKED AROUND.
11:32:42AM I SAW ALL KINDS OF CAFES, MANY WITH OUTDOOR SPACES.
11:32:46AM YOU WOULD BE COMPETING WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES BY DOING
11:32:48AM THAT.
11:32:48AM I ALSO TALKED WITH FOLKS WHO DON'T HAVE HOMES AND ASKED THEM
11:32:53AM WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
11:32:54AM THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH USED TO HAVING PROMISES BROKEN.
11:32:57AM THIS IS A PROMISE YOU GUYS MADE AS THE CITY.
11:32:59AM THE CITY MADE THIS PROMISE TO PUT THE BENCHES BACK.
11:33:02AM THIS IS A MORAL OBLIGATION.
11:33:04AM OUR INITIAL SPEAKER TODAY WHO GAVE THE INVOCATION CALLED US
11:33:08AM TO HEED THE HOLY SPIRIT.
11:33:09AM IN THE WORDS OF SCRIPTURE, WE ARE TOLD TO LOVE GOD ABOVE ALL
11:33:14AM ELSE AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES.
11:33:16AM THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS, WHETHER THEY DRESS UP IN SHIRTS AND
11:33:18AM TIES AND HAVE A CAR AND A HOME OR NOT, THESE ARE OUR
11:33:21AM NEIGHBORS.
11:33:21AM HONOR YOUR COMMITMENTS TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
11:33:24AM DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM OR A
11:33:29AM NON-RELIGIOUS GROUP WHO HELPS FOLKS OUT.
11:33:31AM THIS IS AN AMERICAN PROMISE WE'VE MADE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
11:33:34AM PLEASE HONOR THAT.
11:33:35AM DON'T ALLOW THIS CAFE TO GO IN THERE, TAKING AWAY ONE OF THE
11:33:38AM FEW PUBLIC SPACES WHERE FOLKS CAN HANG OUT.
11:33:40AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
11:33:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:42AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:33:44AM >> MY NAME IS JIMMY DUNSON.
11:33:47AM I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BENCHES IN GASLIGHT PARK AS
11:33:51AM WELL.
11:33:51AM FIRST, I WANTED TO ASK FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING FOR THE STRONG
11:33:55AM EMOTIONS THAT THIS SUBJECT EVOKES.
11:33:57AM MANY OF US HAVE BECOME CLOSE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE
11:34:01AM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
11:34:03AM WE SHARE MEALS TOGETHER.
11:34:04AM WE TEND PEOPLE'S WOUNDS.
11:34:07AM JUST RECENTLY IN THE PAST MONTH, THREE OF OUR FRIENDS ON THE
11:34:10AM STREETS HAVE DIED.
11:34:11AM SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES US VERY DEEPLY AND
11:34:17AM CULTURALLY.
11:34:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY AMENITIES THAT ARE IN THE PARK,
11:34:24AM EVERYBODY, INCLUDING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THAT
11:34:28AM A CAFE OR WHATEVER OTHER ADDITIONS TO THE PARK ARE NOT DONE
11:34:35AM AT THE EXPENSE OF FURTHER MARGE ANALYZING -- MARGINALIZING
11:34:41AM AND FORCING PEOPLE OUT ALREADY MARGINALIZED AND PUSHED TO
11:34:45AM THE EDGES ALREADY MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE.
11:34:50AM IT'S NOT JUST THE BENCHES.
11:34:51AM IT'S TRASH CANS, TOO.
11:34:53AM FOR SOME REASON, THE CITY DECIDED TO REMOVE THE TRASH CANS
11:34:57AM FROM THE PARK AS WELL.
11:34:58AM DURING OUR FOOD SHARES, WE BRING TRASH BAGS TO COLLECT THE
11:35:02AM GARBAGE AND BRING WITH US WHEN WE LEAVE.
11:35:04AM WE REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE
11:35:10AM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AT THE FORETHOUGHT OF YOUR POLICY.
11:35:15AM IF YOU CAN LIAISON WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE CITY TO
11:35:22AM GET THE BENCHES AND TRASH CANS BACK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND
11:35:25AM IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.
11:35:27AM THANK YOU.
11:35:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:30AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:35:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:35:31AM CONNIE BURTON.
11:35:32AM I WOULD JUST SAY FIRST, DO NOT ALLOW THIS COUNCIL TO BE SET
11:35:37AM UP THAT WE HAVE A QUEEN OF THE LORDS AND YOU THINK WE'RE
11:35:42AM YOUR SUBJECTS.
11:35:43AM IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK THAT WAY.
11:35:45AM WE WANT TO HAVE MUTUAL RESPECT FOR YOU AND WE WANT YOU TO
11:35:47AM HAVE MUTUAL RESPECT OF OUR TIME.
11:35:50AM NUMBER ONE, SEVERAL THINGS ON THE AGENDA I WANT TO TALK
11:35:52AM ABOUT.
11:35:52AM THE MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.
11:35:55AM SOME OF YOU WAS NOT HERE IN 2017, BUT SOME WERE.
11:35:58AM AS A RESULT OF A NON-CARING COMMUNITY, NOW WE HAVE THE
11:36:03AM DISPENSARY.
11:36:05AM WE GOT INTERNET CAFES, AND I'M SURE MORE TO COME.
11:36:08AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:36:09AM BECAUSE THAT IS THE DUMPING HUB FOR THINGS THAT WILL NOT
11:36:14AM SHOW UP ON BAYSHORE.
11:36:16AM I WANT TO SEE HOW MANY DISPENSARIES COME OUT OF THERE.
11:36:19AM I WOULD HOPE SOME OF YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE TO SAY
11:36:22AM THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT SUFFERED THE BRUNT OF SO MANY
11:36:26AM ARRESTS FROM MARIJUANA, THAT EVEN IF IT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR
11:36:29AM LANE, YOU SPEAK OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN EXPUNGE SOME OF THOSE
11:36:34AM CHARGES THE WAY WE SEE SO MANY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ARE
11:36:36AM DOING.
11:36:37AM DON'T LET FLORIDA AND TAMPA BE THE LAST OF THE LAST.
11:36:39AM OTHER THING ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 54, NUMBER 55, AS TO
11:36:44AM HOW LOTS BECOME AFFORDABLE FOR $245,000, $8,000, WHEN IN OUR
11:36:53AM COMMUNITY, IN EAST TAMPA, WE ARE TRYING TO GET LOTS AND WE
11:36:57AM SEE THE CRA BECOMES IN CONTROL OF THE LOTS, THEN THE LOTS
11:37:01AM THEN IS RAFFLED OFF TO HIGH BIDDERS.
11:37:05AM THE COMMUNITIES STILL DO NOT HAVE A SAY IN WHAT WE WANT TO
11:37:09AM SEE HAPPEN TO OUR COMMUNITY.
11:37:11AM YOU KNOW THAT.
11:37:11AM WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON DRUMMING THAT DOWN, TOO, AS WELL AS
11:37:16AM ALL OF THE MONIES THAT'S COMING THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY.
11:37:18AM I COULD TELL YOU STRAIGHT UP, JUST LIKE MR. HART AND THE
11:37:21AM OTHER ONE COULD NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT MINORITY PARTICIPATION
11:37:24AM GOING TO BE, IT'S PROBABLY AT 000.1%.
11:37:29AM THEY TOO EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.
11:37:31AM MOST PEOPLE IN THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY, WHERE THE ECONOMY AND
11:37:35AM JOBS MAY BE AT THE NATIONAL PACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS
11:37:38AM ABOUT 50% OF UNEMPLOYMENT.
11:37:41AM IN TERMS OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP, THE TRADITION IN OUR COMMUNITY
11:37:44AM HAS BEEN TO GO TO SCHOOL SO YOU CAN GET A GOOD JOB, NOT TO
11:37:48AM GO TO SCHOOL AND BECOME AN ENTREPRENEUR.
11:37:50AM SO WHEN ALL OF THIS MONEY IS FLYING AROUND IN THIS CITY, A
11:37:55AM MILLION DOLLARS, HOW MANY TRILLIONS WITH S.W.F.W.M.D., ASK
11:38:00AM THE QUESTION, HOW MANY JOB OPPORTUNITIES ARE BEING AFFORDED
11:38:05AM THE LEAST FORTUNATE IN OUR COMMUNITY?
11:38:08AM AND THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS
11:38:12AM COUNCIL, THAT ALL OF YOU LOOK WELL GROOMED THIS MORNING,
11:38:15AM PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT OUT OF YOUR CAR, PROBABLY
11:38:18AM DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO McDONALD'S AND BRUSH YOUR TEETH, BUT
11:38:21AM IT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:38:22AM I WOULD HOPE SOME OF YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE BEFORE
11:38:25AM YOUR NEXT ELECTION CYCLE TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ON
11:38:28AM THIS ISSUE OF ERADICATING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE
11:38:33AM COMMUNITY AT A TIME.
11:38:34AM THANK YOU.
11:38:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:38:35AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:38:36AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:38:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:38:40AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
11:38:43AM THANK YOU, CONNIE, FOR LEADING INTO WHAT I NEED TO SAY.
11:38:46AM FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNCIL NEED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU WORK FOR
11:38:48AM THE VOTERS.
11:38:49AM WE VOTED YOU IN.
11:38:52AM WE CAN VOTE YOU OUT.
11:38:53AM SAYING THAT NEXT THE STAFF WORK FOR YOUTH.
11:38:56AM YOU ALL SHOULD REVISIT WHEN YOU ALLOW THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO
11:39:01AM COME FORWARD TO YOU.
11:39:02AM I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY, TO
11:39:06AM THINK ABOUT THE HOMELESS.
11:39:08AM WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.
11:39:10AM YOUR OWN WORKERS, YOUR OWN STAFF CANNOT GO TO THE PARK AND
11:39:14AM HAVE A BAGGED LUNCH BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO SIT AT.
11:39:19AM IF YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE, THE CAFE IS GOING TO BE FOR PAYING
11:39:23AM CUSTOMERS ONLY.
11:39:25AM ALSO, THE ZONING FOR THE MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTING.
11:39:30AM COUNCILMAN, I'M GLAD YOU POINTED OUT YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY
11:39:33AM BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE SOME LOOPHOLE WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THE
11:39:38AM CITY BACK FROM THE STATE.
11:39:39AM THIS IS OUR CITY.
11:39:40AM WE NEED TO LOOK AND FIND THE LOOPHOLES AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
11:39:43AM 2021, THE SUPER BOWL, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
11:39:50AM BLACK FOLKS WILL NOT GET ANY WORK DONE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY
11:39:56AM HAVE A STIPULATION.
11:39:57AM THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR.
11:39:59AM OKAY, MANY PEOPLE WORK FROM THEIR HOME.
11:40:02AM THEY DON'T HAVE THESE SHOPS.
11:40:04AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT LICENSED.
11:40:05AM NOT SAYING THEY CANNOT DO THE JOB.
11:40:08AM THEY CAN DO THE JOB, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:40:11AM SO THE BAR HAS ALREADY BEEN SET HIGH WHERE WE WOULD BE LEFT
11:40:15AM OUT AGAIN, AND TAMPA WOULD BE SAYING, E O, WE REACHED OUT TO
11:40:19AM YOU ALL.
11:40:20AM NO, YOU DIDN'T.
11:40:21AM IT'S SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
11:40:23AM IT'S NOT GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME WORK WITH
11:40:27AM THE SUPER BOWL.
11:40:29AM AS A TAXPAYER, WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED AND WE NEED TO HAVE A
11:40:32AM PART OF THE PIE.
11:40:33AM THE YOUNG LADY SPOKE ABOUT THE MAYOR COMING ON THE TALK
11:40:36AM SHOW.
11:40:37AM THE NAME OF THE SHOW IS WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
11:40:39AM I'M ONE OF THE HOSTS.
11:40:42AM NOT ONLY DID SHE COME ON THE SHOW, BUT THAT'S HOW WE ENDED
11:40:45AM UP ON 40th STREET BECAUSE THE CITIZENS SPOKE OUT ABOUT THE
11:40:48AM ROUNDABOUT.
11:40:49AM WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR COMING OUT, BUT WHAT
11:40:52AM TOOK PLACE WHEN YOU WORK WITH YOUR CITIZENS, WHEN YOU LISTEN
11:40:55AM AT YOUR CITIZENS, THEN CHANGES CAN COME ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE
11:40:57AM ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAS GOTTEN IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE WE CAME
11:41:01AM TOGETHER ON THAT PROJECT.
11:41:03AM SO YOU NEED TO STOP LEAVING OUT THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE AND
11:41:07AM START LISTENING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE COMMON SENSE.
11:41:10AM AND BACK TO THE BENCHES, MY FACE IS ON QUITE A FEW BENCHES
11:41:14AM IN THIS TOWN.
11:41:15AM IT DOES NOT TAKE MONTHS TO GET A BENCH REPLACED BECAUSE WHEN
11:41:22AM SOMETHING HAPPEN TO MINE, I MAKE A PHONE CALL, WITHIN DAYS
11:41:25AM THOSE BENCHES ARE PUT BACK.
11:41:27AM LET'S STOP THE SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
11:41:29AM LET'S STOP TRYING TO PLAY ON PEOPLE'S INTELLIGENCE AND LET
11:41:31AM IT BE KNOWN THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE WILL NOT BE THE LAST
11:41:36AM TO START.
11:41:37AM THE ONLY REASON WE DON'T WANT THE BENCHES IS BECAUSE THE
11:41:41AM SUPER BOWL IS COMING AND YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THAT
11:41:46AM WE'RE HOMELESS.
11:41:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:41:48AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:41:49AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:41:58AM >> IS THE ELMO WORKING TODAY?
11:41:59AM JOHN MOL, 4104 NORTH LEN AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:42:11AM I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MITIGATION CREDIT FOR ABOUT THREE
11:42:15AM YEARS, AND LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SOMEONE HANDED ME A
11:42:18AM MEMORANDUM, AND I HAVE ON THE ELMO HERE.
11:42:24AM IF YOU WANT TO SEE A PROPERTY THAT RETAINS AND TREATS ALL OF
11:42:30AM THE STORMWATER ON-SITE, COME TO MY PROPERTY.
11:42:34AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WILL TAKE ME UP ON THAT.
11:42:37AM ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE THIS BEING DONE, I'M DOING IT RIGHT
11:42:40AM NOW.
11:42:40AM I'M NOT GOING ANY STORMWATER TO THE CITY STREET OR DITCH.
11:42:47AM MY ROOF HAS BEEN THERE A HUNDRED YEARS, NOT ONE DROP IN
11:42:49AM THOSE HUNDRED YEARS HAS EVER REACHED A CITY PROPERTY.
11:42:53AM YET, OPEN UP MY TAX BILL, THERE IT SITS.
11:42:58AM IT SAYS A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT, BUT IT SAYS A TAX
11:43:03AM AMOUNT.
11:43:04AM THIS IS JUST A TAX DISGUISED AS A USER FEE.
11:43:08AM I'M NOT USING ANY CITY PIPES.
11:43:10AM I DON'T USE CITY WATER.
11:43:11AM I DON'T USE CITY SEWER, AND I DON'T USE CITY DRAINAGE.
11:43:15AM SO WHY DOES IT SHOW HERE THAT I HAVE TO PAY ABOUT 30% OF MY
11:43:21AM TAXES IS FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT DOESN'T RUN OFF MY
11:43:27AM PROPERTY.
11:43:28AM IT SAYS THAT IN AN ATTEMPT TO EXPEDITIOUSLY RESOLVE THE
11:43:35AM MATTER, THE STAFF IS CONDUCTING AN ENGINEERING REVIEW OF THE
11:43:37AM PROPERTY.
11:43:38AM HAS ANYBODY SEEN AN ENGINEERING REVIEW OF A PROPERTY SIGNED
11:43:43AM BY A P. E. WHOSE LICENSE IS ON THE LINE?
11:43:46AM I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYBODY WANTING TO -- A
11:43:51AM STAFF MEMBER COMING TO LOOK AT MY PROPERTY.
11:43:53AM YOU DON'T NEED A SOMETHING FLYING OVER TO SHOW WHERE THE
11:44:03AM RAIN GOES ON MY PROPERTY.
11:44:05AM THANK YOU.
11:44:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:44:09AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:44:10AM I BELIEVE THESE TWO LADIES WILL BE THE LAST FOR PUBLIC
11:44:14AM COMMENT.
11:44:15AM OKAY, MS. LONG.
11:44:16AM I GUESS THREE LADIES.
11:44:17AM ANYONE ELSE AFTER MS. LONG, JUST TO MAKE SURE?
11:44:21AM >> SUSAN MORGAN.
11:44:22AM I AM HERE TODAY FROM GRACEPOINT.
11:44:25AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE FLORIDA RANKS THIRD IN THE NATION
11:44:28AM FOR DRUG OVERDOSES AND DEATH -- DUE TO DEATH THEREOF.
11:44:33AM AND WE HAVE ON AVERAGE 1100 PEOPLE A MONTH COME TO
11:44:39AM GRACEPOINT THAT'S IN A MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE
11:44:41AM CRISIS.
11:44:42AM ABOUT 80 TO 90 PERCENT OF THOSE TEST POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA.
11:44:46AM ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE 1500 PEOPLE A WEEK COME TO OUR
11:44:49AM OUTPATIENT SERVICES RIGHT THERE ON OUR CAMPUS TO RECEIVE
11:44:52AM OUTPATIENT SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
11:44:56AM I THINK IN SPEAKING TO MOST OF YOU AND OTHER FOLKS IN THE
11:44:59AM COMMUNITY, MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THAT HAVING A MEDICAL
11:45:02AM MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER CLOSELY LOCATED TO TREATMENT
11:45:07AM FACILITIES IS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST SENSITIVE OR BEST IDEA.
11:45:11AM I UNDERSTAND WE'RE LIMITED HERE AS TO THE REGULATIONS THAT
11:45:14AM TALLAHASSEE AND THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HAS SET FORTH, BUT
11:45:17AM AS COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED, PERHAPS IT MIGHT BE AN
11:45:20AM OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE LEAGUE
11:45:23AM OF CITIES AND TO THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
11:45:27AM I'M NOT SURE HOW ALL OF THAT WORKS.
11:45:29AM BUT ADDITIONALLY, THE WAY THE REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN, IT
11:45:33AM DOES ALLOW SOME REGULATION IN THE LAND USE.
11:45:37AM SO IT MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, EVEN IF WE CAN'T
11:45:40AM DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION GOING FORWARD.
11:45:44AM I TRIED TO PRINT A MAP OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL GENERAL SITES
11:45:47AM THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY.
11:45:48AM UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T SAVVY ENOUGH TO PRINT IT IN SUCH A
11:45:51AM WAY TO MAKE IT USER FRIENDLY HERE FOR THIS PRESENTATION, BUT
11:45:55AM THERE DOES LEAD THAT THERE COULD BE OTHER SITUATIONS SIMILAR
11:45:58AM TO OURS THAT COULD OCCUR IN THE FUTURE.
11:46:00AM SO I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE LAND USE
11:46:04AM MATRIX.
11:46:05AM I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT A QUICK PROCESS.
11:46:07AM IT'S A LITTLE BIT LENGTHY.
11:46:08AM THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BUT THEN ALSO IN THE CURRENT
11:46:11AM ORDINANCE, IT MAY BE BETTER DEFINING WHERE THE PROCESSING
11:46:13AM AND DISTRIBUTION SITES FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA ARE LOCATED.
11:46:17AM CURRENTLY, IT'S IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO
11:46:21AM TAKE TIME TO READ THE DEFINITION, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE
11:46:25AM COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
11:46:28AM I'M NOT SURE IF UNDER COMMERCIAL GENERAL, PROCESSING AND
11:46:32AM DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, SUCH AS THE ONE NEXT DOOR TO US THAT
11:46:35AM PLANS TO BE A STATEWIDE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
11:46:38AM WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS AND TRAFFIC THAT
11:46:40AM WOULD GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT IS THE BEST IDEA
11:46:43AM THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED FOR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
11:46:46AM THIS IS OUT OF MY WHEEL HOUSE.
11:46:50AM I'M PUTTING THEM OUT AS AVENUES TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND
11:46:54AM PERHAPS CLARIFYING WHERE NOT BEING ABLE TO CO-LOCATE A
11:46:58AM DISPENSARY WITH PROCESSING OR GROW FACILITY.
11:47:02AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT INTO OUR LAND USE, AND I
11:47:05AM KNOW THAT THE CITY WILL PROBABLY SAY IN THEIR RESEARCH THAT
11:47:08AM WE HAVE TO REGULATE THEM THE SAME AS PHARMACIES.
11:47:11AM BUT MOST PHARMACIES ARE NOT GROWING THEIR MEDICATION.
11:47:13AM THEY ARE NOT DISTRIBUTING THEIR MEDICATION, SO I DON'T THINK
11:47:17AM IT WOULD IMPEDE THEM.
11:47:18AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO HAVE
11:47:20AM THE WORKSHOP EARLIER.
11:47:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. ZELMAN, CAN YOU CHIME IN ON ANY OF THAT
11:47:25AM MS. LONG SAID?
11:47:27AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE ONLY THING I WOULD CORRECT IS UNDER OUR
11:47:30AM CODE, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING THE PROCESSING AND CULTIVATION IN
11:47:36AM THE INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING
11:47:40AM DISTRICTS.
11:47:41AM THE DISPENSARIES, AGAIN, BY STATE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE ANY
11:47:47AM RESTRICTIONS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WE WOULD HAVE FOR A
11:47:50AM PHARMACY.
11:47:51AM SO THEY ARE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
11:47:54AM >> SO THE WAY IT WAS ZONED, THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO US,
11:47:58AM THEY ARE ZONED AS MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER WHICH
11:48:00AM ALLOWS THEM TO GROW, PROCESS, DISTRIBUTE AND AS A
11:48:04AM DISPENSARY.
11:48:05AM IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IN OUR LAND USE
11:48:08AM MATRIX IN THAT DEFINITION IS, AGAIN, I'M THINKING OUTSIDE
11:48:11AM THE BOX HERE, IS NOT BEING ABLE TO CO-LOCATE A PROCESSING
11:48:16AM FACILITY IN A DISPENSARY.
11:48:17AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY FOLKS WANT TO DO
11:48:20AM THAT.
11:48:20AM BUT IF YOU'RE ZONED TO DO THAT AND LET'S FAST-FORWARD FIVE
11:48:23AM YEARS FROM NOW, WE CAN'T --
11:48:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:48:26AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:48:27AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:48:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:48:43AM ELLEN SNELLING.
11:48:44AM I'M A PARENT -- I HAVE A DAUGHTER IN RECOVERY, AND ALSO I'M
11:48:47AM WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ANTI-DRUG ALLIANCE AND TAMPA
11:48:52AM ALCOHOL COALITION.
11:48:53AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT ON THE
11:48:56AM MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
11:48:58AM I'VE DONE MY OWN RESEARCH.
11:49:00AM THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.
11:49:02AM NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THE CITY WILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
11:49:06AM ANY OF THEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE
11:49:09AM CAN DO SOMETHING.
11:49:10AM IN FACT, TWO OTHER CITIES -- THE OTHER TWO CITIES WITHIN
11:49:13AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ARE DOING SOMETHING, AND THEY BOTH HAVE
11:49:15AM BANNED MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.
11:49:18AM SO THAT IS VERY CLEAR IN OUR STATE STATUTE THAT CITIES CAN
11:49:23AM DO THAT.
11:49:23AM YOU MAY BE THINKING, WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE MEDICAL
11:49:26AM MARIJUANA, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
11:49:27AM WELL, THEN -- I GAVE YOU COPIES OF FOUR DIFFERENT BANS, AND
11:49:33AM ONE OF THEM IS LAKE WORTH.
11:49:34AM AND LAKE WORTH IS A REALLY NICE CITY OVER ON THE EAST COAST.
11:49:38AM THEY HAD TWO DISPENSARIES.
11:49:40AM THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED THAT WAS ENOUGH.
11:49:44AM THEY ARE VERY UPSET WITH THE STATE, AS YOU ALL MENTIONED,
11:49:47AM THE STATE IS TYING THE HANDS OF CITIES TO BE ABLE TO ZONE
11:49:51AM THE WAY THEY WANT.
11:49:52AM SO THEY DECIDED THEY ARE GOING TO BE WORKING AT THE STATE
11:49:56AM LEVEL TO TRY TO CHANGE THAT.
11:49:57AM IN THE MEANTIME, THEY ARE BANNING.
11:49:59AM SO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, IF IT WAS THE WILL OF THE
11:50:02AM CITY COUNCIL, IS TO GRANDFATHER IN -- I BELIEVE THERE'S
11:50:06AM EIGHT OR NINE DISPENSARIES ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY, AND THEN
11:50:09AM SAY NO NEW DISPENSARIES.
11:50:11AM IN OTHER WORDS, BANNING THE NEW DISPENSARIES.
11:50:14AM I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THAT TO SEE.
11:50:16AM ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT THERE'S A NEW
11:50:19AM CRISIS, AND IT'S CALLED THE VAPE LUNG INJURY CRISIS.
11:50:24AM AND IN FLORIDA, AS OF THIS WEEK, THERE'S BEEN 87 CASES AND
11:50:28AM ONE DEATH.
11:50:29AM AND THIS IS CAUSED BY VAPING MARIJUANA.
11:50:33AM THAT'S THE MOST COMMON CAUSE.
11:50:36AM SOME OF ITS BLACK MARKET, BUT SOME OF IT COMES FROM
11:50:38AM DISPENSARIES.
11:50:39AM IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
11:50:42AM DO WE WANT TO KEEP HAVING, INVITING MORE AND MORE OF THESE
11:50:45AM DISPENSARIES INTO OUR CITY OR IS 8 ENOUGH?
11:50:48AM AND IN MY OPINION, I THINK 8 IS ENOUGH UNTIL THE STATE GIVES
11:50:52AM US MORE LEEWAY TO ZONE BECAUSE ANOTHER SITUATION COULD
11:50:56AM HAPPEN LIKE THIS.
11:50:57AM THEY COULD GO RIGHT NEXT TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, GO WITHIN TEN
11:51:00AM FEET OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THAT MATTER.
11:51:02AM THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE A PHARMACY CAN GO RIGHT NOW.
11:51:04AM THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THEM IS TO BAN THEM.
11:51:07AM A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE SOMETHING WHERE THEY ARE
11:51:10AM PUTTING PHARMACIES, ALL NEW PHARMACIES AND ALL NEW
11:51:14AM DISPENSARIES IN THE SAME ZONING, AND THEY ARE SAYING, MOVING
11:51:18AM FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE ZONING FOR THE NEW PHARMACIES AND NEW
11:51:22AM DISPENSARIES.
11:51:23AM THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT CAN BE DONE AT THIS POINT
11:51:25AM BY THE WAY OUR HANDS ARE TIED.
11:51:27AM I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE
11:51:30AM AND SHOWN INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO
11:51:32AM GIVE UP AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP.
11:51:34AM I'M HOPING THAT THE CITY WILL DO SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD.
11:51:38AM THANK YOU.
11:51:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:51:40AM COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD --
11:51:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. ZELMAN AGAIN.
11:51:43AM UNDER OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER SPECIFIC
11:51:52AM IN REFERENCE TO NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES.
11:51:54AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: RIGHT.
11:51:54AM IF YOU RECALL, BACK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN SEPTEMBER,
11:51:57AM I DID EXPLAIN, IT'S CORRECT THAT UNDER THE STATUTE, THE CITY
11:52:02AM HAD THE OPTION TO BAN DISPENSARIES.
11:52:04AM I WOULD NOTE THAT THE FACILITY IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S KIND OF
11:52:08AM PART OF THE GENESIS OF THIS CONVERSATION IS ALSO A
11:52:12AM CULTIVATING AND PROCESSING FACILITY, WHICH WE CANNOT BAN.
11:52:17AM THAT TOTALLY PREEMPTED BY THE STATE.
11:52:19AM THE STATE DID ALLOW CITIES AND COUNTIES TO, IF THEY CHOSE TO
11:52:24AM BAN DISPENSARIES OUTRIGHT.
11:52:26AM AND AS I TALKED ABOUT IN MY MEMO, BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND
11:52:29AM READ THE TRANSCRIPTS, IN 2017, THIS COUNCIL HAD A VERY
11:52:33AM HEATED DISCUSSION, DEBATE, AS TO WHETHER TO DO THAT, AND THE
11:52:38AM THOUGHT WAS THAT BASED ON MY READ OF THE TRANSCRIPTS -- I
11:52:43AM WASN'T HERE -- THE COUNCIL WAS VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS
11:52:48AM OF CERTAIN PEOPLE TO USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA FOR SOME VERY
11:52:51AM TRAGIC ILLNESSES AND DECIDED NOT TO BAN DISPENSARIES, TO
11:52:54AM ALLOW THEM.
11:52:55AM ONCE THE CITY DECIDES TO ALLOW THEM, THEN AGAIN, THE STATE
11:52:59AM REALLY LIMITS YOU IN WHAT YOU CAN DO.
11:53:01AM YOU CAN'T LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THEM.
11:53:05AM YOU CAN'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS MORE THAN YOU WOULD HAVE FOR A
11:53:08AM PHARMACY.
11:53:08AM I WOULD ALSO NOTE JUST IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS,
11:53:12AM THERE ARE, IN FACT, SEVERAL DISPENSARIES IN, FOR EXAMPLE,
11:53:16AM THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA.
11:53:18AM MOST OF THEM TEND TO BE IN VERY NON-DESCRIPT STRIP SHOPPING
11:53:22AM CENTERS.
11:53:23AM YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU'RE DRIVING PAST THEM AS YOU DRIVE
11:53:26AM PAST.
11:53:26AM JUST SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE, THE DISPENSARIES, THERE ARE, IN
11:53:30AM FACT, A NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:53:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD YOU GRANDFATHER WHAT'S EXISTING NOW
11:53:37AM AND NOT ALLOW ANY MORE NEW --
11:53:39AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT BACK IN
11:53:41AM SEPTEMBER.
11:53:42AM WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT TRYING TO PUT THAT HORSE BACK IN THE
11:53:47AM BARN AT THIS POINT.
11:53:48AM THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, RENDERING THE
11:53:54AM EXISTING FACILITIES NONCONFORMING.
11:53:57AM WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH INVESTMENT-BACKED EXPECTATIONS WHO HAVE
11:54:00AM BOUGHT PROPERTY OR PLANNING TO OPEN DISPENSARIES, HAVE NOT
11:54:03AM DONE SO.
11:54:04AM IF WE SUDDENLY AFTER THE FACT TRIED TO DO A BAN, WE THINK WE
11:54:10AM WOULD BE FACED WITH SIGNIFICANT LEGAL EXPOSURE.
11:54:12AM THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNCIL NOT DO THAT.
11:54:14AM AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE FACILITY IN EAST
11:54:18AM TAMPA, WHICH IS ALREADY APPROVED, IT ALSO IS A CULTIVATING
11:54:24AM AND PROCESSING FACILITY WHICH WE CANNOT BAN.
11:54:26AM AGAIN, WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL NOT GO BACK
11:54:30AM AND TRY TO BAN THEM NOW AFTER TWO YEARS OF THEM BEING
11:54:34AM ALLOWED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:54:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN.
11:54:40AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:54:45AM >> SUSAN LONG.
11:54:49AM MAINLY, I WANT TO MAKE A VERY BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT -- 100.
11:55:05AM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE
11:55:08AM DISPENSARIES.
11:55:08AM WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRODUCTION FACILITY GOING IN
11:55:11AM ON THE EDGE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE
11:55:15AM ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR US.
11:55:17AM WE'LL BE SMELLING IT AND HAVING THE DUST, ET CETERA.
11:55:20AM THAT'S A VERY MAJOR CONCERN.
11:55:21AM I DID LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY OF LEGAL AND SAID WE CAN'T DO
11:55:25AM ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
11:55:28AM ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE WITH ME AND FIGHT THE
11:55:30AM FACT THAT THEY ARE TAKING AWAY ALL OUR RIGHTS, I WOULD BE
11:55:33AM MORE THAN WILLING TO GO.
11:55:34AM THE OTHER THING, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ANGUS GOSS POOL.
11:55:38AM I LISTENED TO MR. BAIRD SAY THE POOL, COVERS A LOT OF
11:55:44AM THINGS, KIDDY POOL, SPLASH POOL.
11:55:47AM WE DON'T WANT A SPLASH POOL.
11:55:48AM WE HAVE A SPLASH POOL.
11:55:50AM WE HAVE THEM AT GIDDENS PARK.
11:55:52AM WE WANT A POOL WHERE YOU CAN GET IN AND SWIM, TEACH KIDS HOW
11:55:55AM TO SWIM, THE SWIM TEAM ACROSS THE STREET DOESN'T HAVE TO
11:55:58AM HAVE KIDS DRIVE KIDS ALL THE WAY ACROSS TAMPA TO DO THEIR
11:56:03AM PRACTICES BECAUSE THERE'S NO POOL IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:56:07AM WE WANT A REAL SWIMMING POOL, NOT A SPLASH PAD OR WADING
11:56:12AM POOL FOR TWO-YEAR-OLDS.
11:56:14AM THESE ARE ADULTS THAT WANT TO DO WATER AEROBICS.
11:56:16AM THEY WANT TO SWIM LAPS AND WE WOULD LIKE A POOL TO DO THAT.
11:56:20AM YOU'LL HAVE US SCREAMING AND YELLING IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
11:56:23AM A POOL ONLY FOR LITTLE KIDS THAT CAN BARELY WALK.
11:56:27AM THE OTHER THING IS, ON THE BRICKS, I LIVE ON THE STREET
11:56:31AM WHERE ALL THE BRICKS WERE COVERED IN ASPHALT.
11:56:35AM OVER TIME, SOME OF THE BRICKS HAVE DIED, SO WE HAVE JUST A
11:56:38AM PUDDLE OF ASPHALT THERE.
11:56:39AM BUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WHERE THE OAK TREES HAVE KIND OF
11:56:42AM TORN UP THE STREET A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE REAL BRICKS UNDER
11:56:45AM THERE.
11:56:46AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM COME BACK.
11:56:49AM FROM WHAT I HEARD TODAY, THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:56:52AM I FIND THAT VERY FRUSTRATING.
11:56:53AM WE HAVE A MAJOR SPEED ISSUE ON OUR ROAD.
11:56:56AM THEY COME OFF NEBRASKA AND GO 90 MILES AN HOUR TO GET
11:56:59AM WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING, OR THEY COME RACING UP, LITERALLY
11:57:03AM DRAG RACING UP TO NEBRASKA AND WONDER WHY WE'RE UPSET WITH
11:57:08AM THE SPEEDING.
11:57:10AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME WAY WE COULD GET AT LEAST SOME
11:57:14AM IMPROVEMENT ON THAT, BRICKS OR SOME OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING.
11:57:19AM THANK YOU.
11:57:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:57:21AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:57:22AM ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
11:57:33AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
11:57:33AM THERE BEING NONE, WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
11:57:37AM WE WILL MOVE ITEMS SAVE FOR 56 --
11:57:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE, IN RESPONSE TO
11:57:46AM A COMMUNITY COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO VERY QUICKLY PULL 54 AND 55
11:57:56AM AS WELL.
11:57:57AM 54 IS NOT GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL.
11:58:00AM 55 I'M WAITING TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF,
11:58:03AM WHICH WE CAN WAIT ON FOR A SECOND.
11:58:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE SEEKING TO PULL 54 AND 55.
11:58:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET STAFF HERE.
11:58:11AM YOU WANT DISCUSSION?
11:58:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE SOME STAFF HERE ALREADY.
11:58:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:58:15AM HOW ABOUT THIS?
11:58:17AM WE'LL SEPARATE AND THEN 54, 55, 56 AND MOVE THE REST.
11:58:21AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, IF I MAY.
11:58:23AM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:58:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:58:27AM I MOVE ITEMS NUMBERS -- EXCUSE ME, YES, NUMBER 6 THROUGH 20,
11:58:35AM IF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON ARE OKAY
11:58:40AM WITH ITEM 20.
11:58:42AM THEN I'LL INCLUDE ITEM 20.
11:58:43AM THAT'S 6 THROUGH 21.
11:58:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:58:48AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:58:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:58:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:58:51AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, SIR.
11:58:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, AS THE VICE-CHAIR OF PARKS AND
11:58:57AM RECREATION, I'LL MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 26.
11:59:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:59:03AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:59:05AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:59:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:59:08AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:59:08AM NEXT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, PUBLIC WORKS.
11:59:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:59:13AM I'LL MOVE ITEMS 27 THROUGH 42 WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION
11:59:21AM NUMBER 30.
11:59:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:59:24AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:59:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:59:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:59:26AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, SIR.
11:59:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:59:32AM MOVE ITEMS 43 -- [INAUDIBLE] 49.
11:59:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:59:38AM A SECOND I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:59:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:59:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:59:41AM CONGRATULATIONS TO SIMMONS ON 47.
11:59:47AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR BUILDING, ZONING AND PRESERVATION
11:59:50AM WITH THE THREE ITEMS OMITTED.
11:59:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 50
11:59:57AM THROUGH 53 AND THEN 57 THROUGH 61 AND I NEED TO PULL NUMBER
12:00:06PM 62.
12:00:07PM I CAN EXPLAIN IN A SECOND.
12:00:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:00:09PM LET ME STOP THERE.
12:00:11PM FOR PULLING ITEMS, PLEASE, LET'S HAVE THEM PULLED THE DAY
12:00:16PM BEFORE.
12:00:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: CONFLICT.
12:00:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: 50 THROUGH 53, 57 THROUGH 61 AND THEN 63
12:00:28PM THROUGH 75.
12:00:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE
12:00:35PM VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MOVE FOR THE ONE YOU'RE
12:00:38PM NOT ALLOWED TO DO SO.
12:00:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO HAVE A SECOND.
12:00:42PM ALSO, TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IN THE RECORD, ACCEPTING THE
12:00:49PM SUBSTITUTE ON NUMBER 63.
12:00:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND A SECOND I
12:00:59PM THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:00PM -- OH, MIRANDA.
12:01:02PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:01:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:01:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:01:04PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND MOVING THAT ITEM.
12:01:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU STEP OUT, SIR, IF YOU'LL HAVE A
12:01:13PM SEAT.
12:01:13PM IT'S ONLY ONE ITEM.
12:01:16PM IF YOU CAN ANNOUNCE YOUR INTENTION TO ABSTAIN AND NATURE OF
12:01:19PM THE CONFLICT AND --
12:01:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL SUBMIT THE FORM.
12:01:25PM MY COMPANY HAS A CLIENT THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH THIS ISSUE,
12:01:28PM SO I NEED TO ABSTAIN.
12:01:31PM 62.
12:01:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT, SIR?
12:01:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 62.
12:01:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:01:44PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:01:47PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:01:49PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:01:51PM WE USUALLY BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:01:54PM I THINK WE CAN GET EVERYTHING IN BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH
12:01:59PM IN TERMS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
12:02:02PM IF YOU PROMISE NOT TO TAKE MORE THAN --
12:02:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO 54, YOUNG LADY IN THE
12:02:10PM AUDIENCE SPOKE VERY ARTICULATELY.
12:02:13PM SHE SAID WHY ARE WE GIVING AWAY PROPERTY FOR $245?
12:02:17PM I PULLED THE BACKUP ON THAT, AND SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO
12:02:22PM RESPOND BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.
12:02:23PM THIS IS A TINY LITTLE PIECE OF -- IT'S A STRIP -- TINY STRIP
12:02:29PM OF LAND, 350 SQUARE FEET, WHAT THEY CALL AN UNECONOMIC
12:02:33PM REMAINDER THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, PROBABLY THROUGH EMINENT
12:02:37PM DOMAIN, WHATEVER, ENDED UP CONTINUING TO BE IN OUR POTION.
12:02:41PM 350 SQUARE FEET IS 35 BY 10.
12:02:44PM IT'S NOT BUILDABLE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
12:02:46PM I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT.
12:02:50PM IN A SECOND I'LL MOVE THAT.
12:02:52PM I ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT NUMBER 55 BECAUSE THAT'S
12:02:54PM $8,000 ITEM FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 814 EAST PALM AVENUE.
12:02:59PM I WAS JUST -- THEY SAID THERE WAS A BACKUP ON THE EXHIBIT,
12:03:02PM BUT I COULDN'T FIND THE EXHIBIT.
12:03:04PM WHAT DID YOU FIND?
12:03:06PM >> I FOUND OUT FROM REAL ESTATE THAT THIS ALSO IS AN
12:03:08PM UNECONOMIC REMAINDER.
12:03:09PM IT WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED TO WIDEN PALM
12:03:12PM AVENUE IN THE '70s.
12:03:14PM AND IT'S A LOT 41 BY 50 FEET.
12:03:17PM THOSE ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE LOT.
12:03:18PM IT'S UNBUILDABLE.
12:03:19PM AND THEY HAVE OFFERED IT TO SALE TO THE PROPERTY ON THE
12:03:22PM CORNER.
12:03:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 41 BY 50?
12:03:28PM >> YES.
12:03:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NEAR YBOR CITY?
12:03:31PM >> YES.
12:03:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.
12:03:33PM I THINK IT'S SORT OF CHEAP BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE CAN
12:03:37PM BECOME BUILDABLE LOTS IF YOU GO THROUGH VARIANCES AND THAT
12:03:42PM SORT OF THING.
12:03:43PM DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD?
12:03:48PM >> JORGE MARTIN, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
12:03:50PM I ACTUALLY WORKED THE DOCUMENTATION WITH THIS TRANSACTION.
12:03:56PM THE CITY POLICY OF THIS POSITION IS TO OFFER UNECONOMIC
12:04:01PM REMAINDERS TO ADJACENT LANDOWNERS.
12:04:03PM AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH A PRICE, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT IS
12:04:08PM USUALLY THE APPRAISED VALUE AT THE APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
12:04:10PM IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THE
12:04:12PM PROPERTY IS APPRAISED FOR.
12:04:16PM THE CITY BENEFITS BECAUSE NOW THE LAND OWNED BY THE SAME
12:04:19PM OWNER IS NOW GOING TO BE TAXED AT A HIGHER AD VALOREM RATE.
12:04:23PM THAT'S GOING TO BRING REVENUES.
12:04:24PM THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MORE --
12:04:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ON THE
12:04:29PM FLIP SIDE, I THINK IF WE PUT THIS ON THE OPEN MARKET AND
12:04:32PM PERHAPS LIST IT FOR AUCTION, I THINK WE COULD GET A LOT MORE
12:04:35PM THAN $8,000.
12:04:40PM >> IT'S UNBUILDABLE.
12:04:41PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S UNBUILDABLE IN ITS CURRENT ZONING
12:04:47PM FORM.
12:04:47PM IT'S 50 BY 40.
12:04:52PM I THINK 50 BY 90.
12:04:54PM 50 BY 40.
12:04:56PM NEVER MIND.
12:04:56PM I WAS THINKING 50 BY 90 WE COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH.
12:05:00PM BUT 50 BY 40, I AGREE WITH YOU.
12:05:02PM OKAY.
12:05:03PM MR. CHAIRMAN WITH THAT, IF NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I
12:05:06PM MOVE 54 AND 55.
12:05:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:05:08PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:05:10PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:05:13PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:05:15PM WE MOVE TO ITEM 56.
12:05:17PM HAVE A MOTION FOR EXTRA 30 MINUTES, 12:30.
12:05:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.
12:05:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU TWO YEARS
12:05:34PM WITH THE EDC, $538,000 IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND
12:05:39PM PENDING FUNDING APPROPRIATION IN FISCAL YEAR '21,
12:05:42PM $538,000 IN THAT YEAR.
12:05:44PM WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:47PM WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE EDC AND I BELIEVE OTHER
12:05:51PM ORGANIZATIONS ALSO.
12:05:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:05:53PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:05:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I PULLED THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO
12:05:57PM VOTE AGAINST IT.
12:05:58PM A FEW QUICK POINTS I JUST WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
12:06:01PM NUMBER ONE, THE CONTRACT, HAS A 30-DAY OUT, EVEN THOUGH IT
12:06:06PM IS A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT, THERE IS A 30-DAY OUT AND 24-HOUR
12:06:11PM OUT FOR NONPERFORMANCE.
12:06:12PM EVEN THOUGH A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT, WE STILL HAVE FLEXIBILITY
12:06:14PM TO COME BACK AND IDEALLY RENEGOTIATE TERMS OR CHANGE THE
12:06:19PM FUNDING STRUCTURE COMPLETELY.
12:06:22PM NUMBER TWO, AS YOU ALL HAVE SEEN FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS
12:06:25PM AND ALSO FROM THE NUMBERS I PRESENTED AND OTHERS, THE
12:06:27PM BIGGEST ISSUE WE'RE FACING IN TAMPA RIGHT NOW IS OUR HIGH
12:06:30PM POVERTY RATE.
12:06:30PM WE HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST POVERTY RATE OF ANY MAJOR CITY IN
12:06:33PM FLORIDA.
12:06:34PM WE ALSO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
12:06:36PM WE HAVE A TERRIBLE PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE
12:06:39PM NEED TO FOCUS ALL THE CITY RESOURCES WE CAN ON THOSE TWO
12:06:42PM ISSUES.
12:06:42PM IN WHATEVER LENS WE LOOK AT THE EDC WITH, I THINK WE HAVE TO
12:06:47PM ADD THAT TO THE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT, AND WE ALSO HAVE
12:06:50PM TO COMPARE IT TO WHAT COULD WE DO WITH THE MONEY, 538,000
12:06:55PM COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER BUDGETS WE SPEND IS NOT THAT
12:06:58PM MUCH MONEY, BUT IT COULD GIVE MORE THAN 105 -- MORE THAN
12:07:06PM HUNDRED $5,000 GRANTS TO SMALL MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.
12:07:10PM HELP US PAY OR SUBSIDIZE TEN OR MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES.
12:07:16PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OTHER ISSUES AND PUT IT THROUGH THAT
12:07:19PM LENS.
12:07:19PM NUMBER THREE, REGIONALISM IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:07:21PM IT CAME UP IN THE WATER ISSUE, BUT I TRAVELED THE REGION
12:07:26PM REGULARLY, FROM SARASOTA/BRADENTON TO PINELLAS, TO PASCO,
12:07:31PM AND I GOT FLOODED WITH CALLS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS ABOUT
12:07:34PM PEOPLE BEING VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS NAME CHANGE.
12:07:37PM THERE WERE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CHANGED THEIR NAME AS
12:07:38PM WELL, BUT WE'RE FUNDING THIS ORGANIZATION.
12:07:41PM AS WAS SAID IN THE PAPER A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, THE PEOPLE OF
12:07:44PM TAMPA DON'T WANT CONTROVERSY.
12:07:46PM THEY DON'T WANT CONFLICT.
12:07:47PM WHAT THIS DID, BY CHANGING THIS NAME WITHOUT REGARD TO OUR
12:07:52PM PARTNERS IN THE REGION, IT CAUSED CONFLICT.
12:07:55PM I'VE BEEN FLOODED WITH CALLS.
12:07:56PM YOU SAW THAT MAYOR KRISEMAN WAS CONCERNED, COMMISSIONER LONG
12:08:00PM WROTE AN OP-ED.
12:08:01PM THE HEAD OF THE PINELLAS EDC WROTE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR,
12:08:05PM PASCO COMMISSIONERS HAVE REACHED OUT.
12:08:07PM THEY ARE VERY, VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS.
12:08:10PM WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
12:08:12PM WHEN WE FIND SOMETHING, THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF
12:08:14PM TAMPA ALSO.
12:08:15PM THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA DON'T WANT US TO HAVE CONFLICT IN THE
12:08:19PM REGION.
12:08:19PM THEY WANT US TO HAVE PEACE.
12:08:21PM I RECOMMEND THAT WE CHARGE THEM WITH PROMOTING REGIONALISM,
12:08:24PM NOT JUST IN NAME, BUT IN ACTUAL COOPERATION.
12:08:27PM IDEALLY, THEY WOULD STILL CHANGE THEIR NAME BACK.
12:08:29PM I THINK THIS WOULD END UP BEING LIKE THE USF MERRILL LYNCH
12:08:32PM LOGO THAT IN A YEAR OR SO WITH THE REGULAR DRUM BEAT, I
12:08:35PM THINK IT WILL EVENTUALLY CHANGE.
12:08:37PM I THINK THEY OUGHT TO APOLOGIZE TO MAYOR KRISEMAN AND THE
12:08:41PM PARTNERS IN THE REGION FOR HOW THEY IN EFFECT SNUB THEM.
12:08:45PM NUMBER FOUR, TRANSPARENCY.
12:08:46PM TRANSPARENCY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND IF AN ORGANIZATION
12:08:48PM IS GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC DOLLARS.
12:08:50PM AT THE VERY MINIMUM, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK THEM TO LIST
12:08:53PM THEIR BOARD MEMBERS ON THEIR WEBSITE.
12:08:55PM WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS RUNNING THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S
12:08:57PM GETTING A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS IN PUBLIC MONEY PER YEAR.
12:09:00PM SOME OF THE PARTNERS ARE GENERICALLY LISTED, BUT THE NAMES
12:09:03PM ARE NOT LISTED.
12:09:04PM SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE LEADERS ARE AND WHO ARE MAKING THE
12:09:07PM DECISIONS ON HOW TO SPEND THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.
12:09:09PM ALSO, AND I CAN GIVE YOU A LONGER LIST.
12:09:11PM THIS IS JUST A SHORT LIST, ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE LAST FEW
12:09:14PM YEARS IN THE REPORTING, THEY HAD -- I FORGOT THE
12:09:17PM PERCENTAGES, BUT VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE WERE REPORTED IN TERMS
12:09:20PM OF THE AVERAGE WAGE, AND NOW IN THE MOST RECENT REPORTS,
12:09:23PM THEY ARE HARDLY REPORTING THAT AT ALL.
12:09:25PM WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENT IN THE NUMBERS BEING PRESENTED
12:09:28PM AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS RUNNING THEM AND HOW THEY ARE
12:09:30PM MAKING DECISIONS.
12:09:31PM NUMBER FIVE, ACCOUNTABILITY.
12:09:33PM DO ANY OF YOU -- THINK ABOUT FOR A SECOND, WHAT INDUSTRY
12:09:37PM WOULD YOU SAY MOSAIC IS IN?
12:09:39PM THIS IS FROM THE NEWSPAPER TODAY.
12:09:42PM TAMPA BAY TIMES TODAY IN THE SUB-ED CALLS THEM A FERTILIZER
12:09:51PM COMPANY.
12:09:51PM THE EDC CALLS THEM COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AND MARKET
12:10:03PM RESEARCH.
12:10:03PM I HAD MY STAFF MEMBER AND AN INTERN GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT
12:10:08PM WHAT THE EDC CALLED THEIR COMPANIES THAT THEY HELPED, WHAT
12:10:11PM INDUSTRY THEY PUT THEM IN, AND THEN LOOK AT THE WEBSITE OF
12:10:14PM THE COMPANIES TO SEE WHAT INDUSTRY THEY ARE IN, AND MOST OF
12:10:16PM THEM WERE WRONG.
12:10:17PM SO IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, WE NEED TO
12:10:19PM HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING OVER THAT.
12:10:21PM WORSE, THE CITY COUNCIL INTERN -- I'M GIVING YOU THE VERY,
12:10:27PM VERY SHORT VERSION.
12:10:28PM THE CITY COUNCIL INTERN LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS THEY REPORTED.
12:10:31PM THERE ARE LOTS OF BIG NUMBERS REPORTED IN THE MEDIA.
12:10:33PM THEY LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS.
12:10:34PM THE CITY COUNCIL INTERN LOOKED AT IT AND IN ONE HOUR, A USF
12:10:38PM STUDENT LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND FOUND A $7 MILLION ERROR.
12:10:43PM IN ONE HOUR, ASKING ONE QUESTION AND THE STAFF CONFIRMED
12:10:47PM THAT IT WAS AN ERROR.
12:10:48PM SO THE QUESTION IS, IF THEY ARE MAKING ERRORS IN THE REPORTS
12:10:51PM TO THE CITY AND REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S JUST
12:10:54PM ONE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE REST OF
12:10:56PM THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE?
12:10:58PM WE NEED TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY, NEED TO HAVE STAFF LOOK AT
12:11:00PM IT.
12:11:01PM APPARENTLY STAFF HAS ANOTHER SET OF INFORMATION THAT I WAS
12:11:05PM NOT ORIGINALLY GIVEN BUT IN THE REPORTS, THE BASIC REPORTS
12:11:07PM TO THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL, THE NUMBERS WERE WRONG.
12:11:10PM SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.
12:11:13PM THE LAST THING IS INCLUSIVENESS.
12:11:15PM I COULD GIVE YOU LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF THIS FROM BETTY CASTOR
12:11:19PM AND OTHERS FIGHTING THE UNIVERSITY CLUB FOR INCLUSIVENESS TO
12:11:23PM 1987 SUPREME COURT SAID THAT ROTARY CLUBS HAD TO INCLUDE
12:11:28PM WOMEN, AND THEY SAID IT WAS AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE FOR MEN
12:11:31PM BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT GETTING ACCESS TO INSIDE INFORMATION
12:11:36PM THAT WAS GATHERED BECAUSE THE MEN IN ROTARY CLUBS WERE ABLE
12:11:38PM TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
12:11:39PM THE SAME THING IN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS.
12:11:41PM THIS IS AN OLD MODEL FROM THE '80s THAT YOU SAY -- THE
12:11:45PM PUBLIC PAYS FOR A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CONFIDENTIAL
12:11:49PM INFORMATION, THAT'S PAID FOR BY THE PUBLIC, AND IT'S SHARED
12:11:52PM AMONG PEOPLE WHO PAY.
12:11:53PM SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, IF THEY WANT TO BE A PRIVATE
12:11:58PM ORGANIZATION, THAT'S FINE.
12:11:59PM BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO GET PUBLIC DOLLARS FROM THE CITY
12:12:03PM AND THE COUNTY, THEY NEED TO BE INCLUSIVE.
12:12:05PM INCLUSIVENESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
12:12:07PM WE NEED TO ASK THEM TO HAVE EVENTS AND PROGRAMMING THAT
12:12:10PM INCLUDES SMALL BUSINESSES.
12:12:13PM SMALL BUSINESSES CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY 10, 20, 50 THOUSAND
12:12:17PM DOLLARS TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR ACTIVITIES.
12:12:19PM AND SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY -- WE HEARD THE PUBLIC
12:12:22PM LINE UP HERE TODAY AND SAY MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES AND
12:12:25PM SMALL BUSINESSES SHOULD HAVE ACCESS IN LOTS OF WAYS.
12:12:27PM YET DEALS ARE BEING CUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND WE'RE PAYING
12:12:31PM FOR IT, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES WE'RE TRYING
12:12:33PM TO HELP.
12:12:34PM WITH THAT, I'LL BE QUIET.
12:12:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:12:37PM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:12:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
12:12:41PM I SEE THE EDC IS HERE.
12:12:46PM MYSELF, I LIKE THE CHAIRMAN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
12:12:52PM MR. CRAIG RECENTLY COME UP AND TELL ME ABOUT THE EDC, TELL
12:12:55PM THE BOARD, SO WE GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE FUNDING
12:13:00PM COMES FROM, WHO'S THE BOSS OF THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION.
12:13:05PM GIVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EDC, IF YOU WOULD.
12:13:08PM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
12:13:10PM MY NAME IS CRAIG RICHARD, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE EDC.
12:13:14PM WITH ME TODAY IS OUR VICE-CHAIRMAN, JIM WEIS, WHO IS THE
12:13:19PM MARKET PRESIDENT OF FIFTH-THIRD, AND DAVE BEVIRT, WHO IS
12:13:22PM SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF SPP AND WHO IS ALSO REPRESENTING
12:13:27PM JAMES NOZAR, THE PRESIDENT OF SPP, WHO IS OUR
12:13:32PM SECRETARY-TREASURER OF THE ORGANIZATION.
12:13:33PM THE ORGANIZATION IS A 501(C)(6) NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
12:13:38PM WE HAVE ABOUT A $4 MILLION BUDGET.
12:13:41PM APPROXIMATELY 538,000 OF THAT COMES FROM A CONTRACT WITH THE
12:13:46PM CITY COUNCIL.
12:13:46PM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:13:48PM AND THE OTHER 450,000 IS WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:13:56PM OF THE $4 MILLION BUDGET, APPROXIMATELY -- WE MATCH ONE
12:14:00PM DOLLAR FROM THE CITY WITH SIX DOLLARS OF PRIVATE FUNDING FOR
12:14:05PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
12:14:07PM IN REGARDS TO THE ORGANIZATION AND ITS GOVERNANCE, THE CHAIR
12:14:14PM THIS YEAR IS MARIE EVERETT.
12:14:17PM SHE IS THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF DTCC.
12:14:21PM SHE REGRETS SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
12:14:23PM I BELIEVE SHE SENT A LETTER TO COUNCIL TO THAT EFFECT.
12:14:26PM AND THEN OUR GENERAL COUNSEL IS DAVID WEINSTEIN WITH
12:14:30PM GREENBERG.
12:14:32PM WE HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT IS PRIMARILY GOVERNED BY
12:14:38PM MEMBERS AND INVESTORS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THEN THREE
12:14:42PM YEARS AGO, WE ACTUALLY WORKED TO REVISE OUR GOVERNANCE
12:14:48PM STRUCTURE SO THAT IT WOULD ALLOW TEN NEW AT-LARGE POSITIONS
12:14:52PM THAT COULD BE NOMINATED FROM ANY POSITION.
12:14:57PM IT'S AN HONOR TO BE WITH YOU.
12:14:58PM I'M PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND CONTINUE OUR
12:15:01PM SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP.
12:15:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON TALKS ABOUT THE REGION.
12:15:06PM WHAT YOU EXPLAINED TO ME, PINELLAS, MANATEE, POLK, NO OTHER
12:15:10PM ENTITY OUTSIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH AND THE CITY OF TAMPA GIVE TO
12:15:13PM THE ORGANIZATION.
12:15:14PM >> CORRECT.
12:15:15PM THERE'S ONE CAVEAT TO THAT.
12:15:21PM WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S CALLED GLOBAL TAMPA BAY.
12:15:23PM IT IS OUR INTERNATIONAL TRADE PROGRAM.
12:15:25PM ON THAT PROGRAM, WE RECEIVE FUNDING FROM JP MORGAN CHASE TO
12:15:30PM IMPLEMENT A TRADE EXPORT PROGRAM AND A FOREIGN DIRECT
12:15:34PM INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
12:15:35PM PINELLAS AND PASCO PARTNERS WITH US ON THAT PROGRAM.
12:15:39PM THEY'VE AGREED TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THEIR EXPENSES TO
12:15:44PM CARRY OUT THAT PIECE OF THE PROGRAM.
12:15:51PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.
12:15:55PM JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
12:15:59PM I SHARE SOME OF MR. CARLSON'S CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY ON THIS
12:16:03PM MOSAIC ITEM, WHICH SORT OF SURPRISES ME.
12:16:06PM $500,000, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTION OR WHAT YOUR
12:16:13PM CONTRIBUTION WAS IN TERMS OF TIME AND EFFORT, BUT I GUESS,
12:16:17PM WHAT IS THAT?
12:16:17PM SOME SORT OF INVESTMENT FROM MOSAIC?
12:16:22PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:16:23PM JAN PLATT WOULD BE ROLLING OVER IN HER GRAVE IF SHE KNEW
12:16:26PM THAT WE WERE TRYING TO HELP MOSAIC.
12:16:30PM AS THE ARTICLE INDICATED IN THE PAPER, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
12:16:32PM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY IS STILL HAPPY WITH MOSAIC, AND
12:16:37PM THAT'S AFTER FIGHTING THEM FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS.
12:16:41PM ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO GET LOST IN THE WEEDS ON THAT ONE,
12:16:44PM BUT THAT ONE JUMPED OUT AT ME, MR. CARLSON, I APPRECIATE YOU
12:16:48PM BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
12:16:50PM HOWEVER, ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
12:16:53PM CONTINUE TO BE TEAM PLAYERS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COUNTY AND
12:16:55PM WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
12:16:57PM IF I THOUGHT THAT OUR $500,000 WAS IT AND YOU WERE JUST SORT
12:17:03PM OF AN OUTSIDE ARM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEN I GUESS I WOULD
12:17:07PM QUESTION THAT, TOO, AND SAY WHY DON'T WE JUST BRING YOU
12:17:10PM IN-HOUSE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
12:17:13PM YOU GET 500,000 FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:17:17PM 500,000 FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, GIVE OR TAKE, AND THEN YOU
12:17:21PM GET ANOTHER $3 MILLION FROM YOUR PRIVATE INVESTORS.
12:17:24PM SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT WE
12:17:29PM AT LEAST FOR NOW CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP IN THE SPIRIT OF
12:17:34PM COOPERATION AND TEAMWORK.
12:17:36PM NOW, WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE SORT OF REVAMPING AND REVISING
12:17:40PM OUR OWN INTERNAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WITH NEW HIRE
12:17:45PM THAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT I HOPE MAYBE SIX MONTHS OR
12:17:48PM SO.
12:17:49PM SO WE WILL WORK WITH THAT PERSON, HE OR SHE TO MAKE SURE
12:17:56PM THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MAYOR'S IDEAS, WITH COUNCIL'S
12:17:59PM IDEAS, AND WITH THE NEW ED'S IDEAS.
12:18:01PM SO WITH ALL THAT, MR. CARLSON, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING
12:18:05PM THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.
12:18:07PM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T REALLY SEE AN ALTERNATIVE TO CONTINUING
12:18:11PM TO BE, LIKE I SAY, A TEAM PLAYER WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.
12:18:15PM IF WE JUST YANKED THE CARPET RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A
12:18:18PM PLAN.
12:18:19PM WE DON'T HAVE A PERSON, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE
12:18:23PM OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.
12:18:25PM DENNIS, DID YOU INDICATE THAT THIS ITEM WOULD COME BACK NEXT
12:18:30PM YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER?
12:18:35PM >> THE APPROPRIATION AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR '21 BUDGET
12:18:39PM WILL COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.
12:18:40PM THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR TWO YEARS, BUT YOU CAN ONLY APPROVE A
12:18:44PM BUDGET ON A SINGLE FISCAL USE OF THE APPROPRIATION OF
12:18:47PM 538,000 WILL COME BACK TO YOU AS PART OF THE NEXT BUDGET
12:18:50PM PROCESS.
12:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE YET THIS
12:18:56PM MORNING, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED THAT YOU SEE ON
12:18:58PM THE AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND THAT WAS TO TALK ABOUT THE ROI
12:19:01PM IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY.
12:19:02PM I ASKED FOR IT TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL I THINK MARCH 6.
12:19:06PM THE IDEA THEN IS WE'LL HAVE AS YOU SAID AN ECONOMIC
12:19:09PM DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHO WILL HOPEFULLY BY THEN HAVE A PLAN
12:19:12PM AND SEE WHAT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE IN THE PLAN
12:19:15PM AND ALSO WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS.
12:19:17PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FAIR ENOUGH.
12:19:18PM THANK YOU.
12:19:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:19:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD ON
12:19:23PM BOTH SIDES.
12:19:24PM YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT, AND THIS STARTED -- I AM NOT ELECTED
12:19:30PM FOR TAMPA BAY.
12:19:31PM THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOVERNING BODY OR ANYTHING.
12:19:34PM TAMPA BAY IS A BODY OF WATER.
12:19:36PM YOU DON'T HEAR SAN FRANCISCO BAY OR MIAMI BAY, BUT NOW TAMPA
12:19:41PM BAY IS A NEW CATCH WORD FOR EVERYTHING.
12:19:44PM TAMPA BAY BUCS.
12:19:46PM TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
12:19:48PM WHAT IT'S CALLED.
12:19:49PM I'VE SEEN ADVERTISING ON THE STREET, BUCCANEER PLUMBING
12:19:54PM SERVICE.
12:19:55PM WHATEVER IT WAS.
12:19:56PM AS LONG AS THEY DON'T USE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS THEY'RE ALL
12:19:59PM RIGHT.
12:20:00PM I GUESS.
12:20:00PM I'M NOT A LAWYER.
12:20:01PM YOU LOOK AT TAMPA BAY RAYS.
12:20:04PM TAMPA BAY IS A BODY OF WATER.
12:20:09PM TAMPA BAY WATER.
12:20:09PM WHAT'S MORE CONFUSING THAN TAMPA BAY WATER AND THE CITY OF
12:20:12PM TAMPA WATER?
12:20:13PM YOU, SIR, COME JANUARY, GOING TO RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS
12:20:17PM IN YOUR AREA.
12:20:19PM I'LL TELL YOU TODAY THAT IN JANUARY, YOU WILL BE GETTING
12:20:22PM CALLS FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN NORTH TAMPA, ANYWHERE NORTH
12:20:27PM WHERE THAT WATER WILL BE GOING.
12:20:29PM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DO I LIKE IT?
12:20:31PM MAYBE NOT.
12:20:32PM IT'S GOT THE WORD TAMPA.
12:20:33PM IN FACT, I ASKED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CAN WE OMIT ANYBODY
12:20:36PM FROM USING THE WORD TAMPA.
12:20:37PM THEY TOLD ME ABSOLUTELY NO.
12:20:38PM WAY BEFORE THIS HAPPENED.
12:20:40PM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU CAN'T SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT
12:20:46PM YOU CAN SAY TAMPA BAY WATER.
12:20:47PM YOU CAN SAY TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
12:20:50PM YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.
12:20:51PM IT'S A SITUATION FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THE THOUSANDS OF JOBS
12:20:56PM THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED, AND NOT ALL JOBS ARE HIGH-PAYING
12:21:00PM JOBS.
12:21:01PM WHEN YOU BUILT THE PLANT OR BUILT SOMETHING THAT COMES IN,
12:21:04PM WHOEVER IS DOING THE MANAGEMENT, WHOEVER IS DOING THE
12:21:07PM CONTRACTING, WHOEVER IS DOING THE BUILDING OF IT, AIN'T
12:21:09PM GOING TO BE SOMEBODY FROM HARVARD.
12:21:11PM IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
12:21:13PM HARVARD GUY OR HARVARD GIRL OR WHATEVER IT IS, GOING TO
12:21:18PM BUILD A TECHNICAL SCHOOL FOR NURSING, ALSO NOT GOING TO
12:21:22PM CLEAN THE BUILDING, GUARANTEE YOU THAT.
12:21:23PM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, THAT THERE'S A RANGE AND I DON'T
12:21:27PM KNOW WHERE THE POPULATION COMES FROM AND WHAT THE SALARIES
12:21:30PM ARE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, PAYROLL.
12:21:36PM IF EVERYBODY WOULD BE A STANDARD PAYROLL, GUESS WHERE WE
12:21:40PM WOULD BE?
12:21:41PM IT WOULD BE UN-AMERICAN BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE GETS PAID ON
12:21:44PM WHAT THEY PRODUCE, NOT LIKE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY, EVERYBODY
12:21:48PM GETS $25 A MONTH NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
12:21:50PM WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TAMPA, WHATEVER YOU WANT
12:21:54PM TO CALL YOURSELF.
12:21:55PM I MAY NOT LIKE IT, AND I'LL SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
12:21:59PM BUT WHEN I GIVE A SPEECH, SOMEBODY SAYS TAMPA, NO, NO.
12:22:03PM I'M NOT TAMPA BAY ANYTHING.
12:22:05PM I'M THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:22:05PM THAT'S WHO ELECTED ME.
12:22:08PM NOBODY ELSE ELECTED ME BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:22:11PM I CAN TELL YOU WHERE ALL THAT STARTED WAS YEARS AGO.
12:22:14PM BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
12:22:18PM I HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.
12:22:20PM IN FACT, SOMEBODY, I EVEN ASKED THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO
12:22:22PM CHANGE THE NAME.
12:22:24PM YOU CAN ASK BRAD BAIRD.
12:22:26PM I CALLED HIM, IS IT POSSIBLE?
12:22:27PM ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE?
12:22:29PM BUT IT'S GETTING HARD TO REPRESENT A CITY THAT'S GROWING SO
12:22:33PM QUICKLY AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO USE THE NAME TAMPA FOR
12:22:36PM SOMETHING.
12:22:37PM IN FACT, YOU CAN GO TO BROOKSVILLE.
12:22:40PM BROOKSVILLE, HERNANDO, BROOKSVILLE, TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH,
12:22:43PM HERNANDO, SOMETHING, INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, BROOKSVILLE.
12:22:46PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME, GO LOOK AT IT, RIGHT THERE ON
12:22:50PM U.S. 19.
12:22:51PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
12:22:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:22:57PM BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY SPOKEN ABOUT THIS
12:23:04PM BEFORE.
12:23:04PM I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE NAME
12:23:09PM CHANGE.
12:23:09PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I PERSONALLY SUPPORT.
12:23:11PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, BUT AS I MADE CLEAR SINCE THAT
12:23:17PM TIME, THAT WAS THE PREFACE TO A LARGER BOOK THAT HAS
12:23:20PM DEVELOPED SINCE THEN.
12:23:21PM I RESPECTFULLY DON'T SEE EYE TO EYE ON THAT ISSUE.
12:23:24PM I THINK THAT THE NAME CHANGE, THOUGH, DOES SEND THE WRONG
12:23:27PM MESSAGE.
12:23:28PM I THINK IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.
12:23:29PM BUT ALSO, IF THE CITY OF TAMPA WERE TO TAKE THE DRACONIAN
12:23:32PM STEP OF NOT FUNDING THE EDC, THAT WOULD ALSO SEND A WRONG
12:23:37PM MESSAGE AND A MUCH MORE POWERFULLY NEGATIVE MESSAGE THAN A
12:23:41PM MERE NAME CHANGE.
12:23:42PM SO THAT'S I DIDN'T RESPECTFULLY CANNOT SUPPORT IT.
12:23:45PM I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S PASSION ON THIS ISSUE, BUT
12:23:49PM I CANNOT SUPPORT IT.
12:23:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, OBVIOUSLY, YOU WILL NOT BE MOVING IT.
12:23:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE TIME.
12:23:55PM I KNOW I'VE GOT TWO BITES AT THE APPLE, NOT TRYING TO TAKE
12:23:58PM THE WHOLE APPLE.
12:23:59PM IT USED TO BE TAMPA STADIUM.
12:24:01PM IT USED TO BE.
12:24:03PM IN FACT, I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE STADIUM FOR TWO
12:24:06PM MONTHS WITHOUT TAKING A BREATH.
12:24:08PM BUT I'M GOING TO CUT IT REAL SHORT.
12:24:10PM 170 BILLION WAS THE COST.
12:24:13PM THEY DON'T TELL YOU ABOUT THE INTEREST.
12:24:14PM COST THE CITY OF TAMPA 250,000 EVERY TIME THERE'S A GAME
12:24:17PM THERE.
12:24:18PM NO ONE IS SAYING STOP THAT.
12:24:19PM THE FIRST TWO MILLION YOU MAKE OFF THE STADIUM, NON-FOOTBALL
12:24:24PM EVENT GOES TO THE OWNERS.
12:24:25PM GOD BLESS THEM.
12:24:26PM AFTER THAT, IT'S 50-50.
12:24:28PM THE PARKING GOES TO THEM.
12:24:31PM THE REVENUES GO TO THEM.
12:24:32PM EVERYTHING GOES TO THEM.
12:24:34PM YOU PAY AD VALOREM TAX, SIR?
12:24:36PM >> YES, SIR.
12:24:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STADIUMS DON'T PAY AD VALOREM TAXES.
12:24:39PM THERE'S MORE AND MORE THAT I CAN TELL YOU.
12:24:44PM I DON'T HAVE TIME.
12:24:45PM CHANGE THE NAME -- SUPPORTING IT.
12:24:50PM IN FACT, AFTER THEY BUILT IT, THE NEXT YEAR THEY FOUND OUT,
12:24:53PM WHOA, $5 MILLION IN AD VALOREM TAX BECAUSE CITY PROPERTY,
12:24:57PM WASN'T IN THE COUNTY.
12:24:58PM WE HAD TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE COUNTY THE LAND SO THEY
12:25:00PM COULD PAY ZERO TAX.
12:25:02PM WHAT A COUNTRY.
12:25:02PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
12:25:05PM IT'S ABOUT MONEY.
12:25:06PM IT AIN'T ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
12:25:08PM IT'S ALL -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, YOU TALK ABOUT
12:25:12PM ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES I COULD HAVE BUILT?
12:25:15PM I COULD HAVE HAD SOLVED -- COMPLETED, FURNISHED AND
12:25:21PM EVERYTHING.
12:25:21PM BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT GOES.
12:25:23PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:25:25PM I'M NOT ANTI--- ANYBODY CAN STAY HERE.
12:25:28PM ANYBODY IS WELCOME.
12:25:29PM I DO NOT VOTE FOR STADIUM.
12:25:30PM I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE.
12:25:32PM THAT'S HOW I AM.
12:25:34PM THANK YOU.
12:25:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:25:36PM OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL NOT BE MOVING THIS.
12:25:40PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU'RE THE VICE-CHAIR, DO YOU FEEL
12:25:42PM COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, SIR?
12:25:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEM 56.
12:25:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:25:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:25:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO I BELIEVE A
12:25:50PM SECOND FIRST BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:25:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:25:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:25:59PM >> CARLSON VOTING NO.
12:26:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:26:02PM WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED HERE UP UNTIL 12:30.
12:26:05PM MR. SHELBY INDICATED TO ME THAT SOME STAFF WAS WAITING FOR
12:26:10PM ITEMS 93, 94 AND 95.
12:26:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, I BELIEVE THEY ALREADY SPOKE TO IT BUT
12:26:17PM THEY ARE BIG-TICKET ITEMS.
12:26:18PM NORMALLY THE ADMINISTRATION HISTORICALLY HAS ASKED THAT
12:26:20PM COUNCIL MOVE THOSE SO THEY HAVE CERTAINTY THAT THEY HAVE
12:26:23PM BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THE BREAK.
12:26:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE MOTIONS --
12:26:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 93, 94, 95.
12:26:30PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT WAS 94, I INQUIRED OF SOLID
12:26:36PM WASTE ABOUT THE MINORITY VENDING GOAL.
12:26:41PM AND MR. WILBANKS RESPONDED.
12:26:46PM HE LOOKED UP THE FILE AND RESPONDED.
12:26:50PM I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THEY HAVE A GOAL WMBE GOAL OF 30%.
12:26:54PM HE SAID THAT THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR IS VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT
12:27:00PM SORT OF THING, AND I'M SURE THAT WE WILL HOLD THEM TO THAT
12:27:07PM GOAL.
12:27:08PM HE TOLD ME.
12:27:13PM I TRUST HIM.
12:27:15PM WE'LL HOLD THEM TO THE GOAL AND GET A REPORT AS THE PROJECT
12:27:18PM PROCEEDS.
12:27:19PM I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT NEWS.
12:27:20PM I'LL BE GLAD TO SUPPORT THOSE THREE ITEMS.
12:27:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, COUNCILMAN
12:27:24PM DINGFELDER.
12:27:24PM MOTION ON THE TABLE.
12:27:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:27PM BEFORE WE BREAK, MAY I HAVE ITEMS 85 AND 86 ADDRESSED --
12:27:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO SET FOR DECEMBER 19, 2019 AT
12:27:38PM 10:30 IN THE MORNING.
12:27:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:27:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:27:43PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:27:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 86 IS JANUARY 9, YEAR 2020 AT 10:30 IN
12:27:49PM THE MORNING.
12:27:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:27:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:27:54PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:27:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:56PM 1:30?
12:28:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION FOR 1:30.
12:28:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
12:28:03PM ALL IN FAVOR.
12:28:04PM YAY.
12:28:04PM COUNCIL IS IN RECESS.
12:28:07PM [RECESS]
1:33:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.
1:33:25PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
1:33:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
1:33:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
1:33:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:33:32PM >> CITRO?
1:33:33PM MIRANDA?
1:33:34PM CARLSON?
1:33:35PM VIERA?
1:33:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:33:37PM OKAY.
1:33:37PM I NEGLECTED TO HAVE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DO THE
1:33:40PM TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ITEMS.
1:33:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:33:44PM I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 76 THROUGH 84.
1:33:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:33:49PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:33:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:33:51PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:33:52PM WERE THERE ADDENDUM ITEMS AS WELL?
1:33:58PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]
1:33:58PM TWO ITEMS UNDER THE ADDENDUM.
1:34:13PM -- RESET JANUARY 23rd AT 10:30.
1:34:19PM THAT'S BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO DO THE NOTES.
1:34:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:34:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:34:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:34:28PM >>THE CLERK: YOU ALSO HAVE THE MEMO FROM MR. GUDES TO REMOVE
1:34:31PM THE SPECIAL CALLED SESSION FOR TOMORROW.
1:34:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:34:37PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:34:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:34:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:34:42PM >>THE CLERK: ALSO HAD THE RESOLUTION PRESENTED BY MARTY FOR
1:34:45PM THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD.
1:34:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:34:52PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:34:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:34:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:34:55PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
1:34:56PM NEXT, WE MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
1:35:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 87 THROUGH 92.
1:35:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO OPEN?
1:35:04PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:35:06PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
1:35:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:35:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:35:10PM IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS AND TESTIFY, FOR
1:35:18PM THOSE OF YOU STILL HERE, PLEASE STAND UP AND BE READY TO
1:35:22PM SWORN IN.
1:35:23PM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
1:35:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
1:35:31PM WE BEGIN WITH ITEM 87.
1:35:32PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
1:35:32PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
1:35:32PM 87 THROUGH 91 ARE ALL SECOND READINGS FOR CASES THAT YOU
1:35:40PM HEARD AT YOUR OCTOBER HEARINGS.
1:35:43PM ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND ARE AT THE CITY
1:35:47PM CLERK'S OFFICE.
1:35:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
1:35:53PM YOU KNOW WHAT?
1:35:54PM I HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS ONE.
1:35:58PM I AM A COUNSELOR WITH THE LAW FIRM THAT IN THE PAST AND I
1:36:08PM BELIEVE PRESENTED HAS REPRESENTED TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
1:36:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
1:36:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FILING IT AND WILL HAND IT OVER.
1:36:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:36:16PM ALL RIGHT.
1:36:17PM APPLICANT.
1:36:19PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
1:36:20PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF TGH.
1:36:24PM WE HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE IN OCTOBER.
1:36:25PM ALL REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN HAVE BEEN MADE.
1:36:28PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
1:36:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
1:36:32PM APPLICANT?
1:36:32PM SEEING NONE, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
1:36:35PM THIS ITEM?
1:36:37PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE WITH A
1:36:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:36:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:36:42PM ALL RIGHT.
1:36:43PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TAKING NUMBER
1:36:46PM 87.
1:36:47PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, IN REGARD TO REZ 19-65, I MOVE THE
1:36:51PM FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
1:36:53PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 606
1:36:56PM AND 722 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
1:37:00PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
1:37:03PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE,
1:37:06PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE
1:37:08PM FACILITY, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, HOSPITAL,
1:37:16PM HOTEL/MOTEL, CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY, LARGE GROUP CARE,
1:37:21PM PRINCIPAL PARKING, NURSING CONVALESCENT AND EXTENDED CARE
1:37:31PM FACILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:37:33PM >> WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:37:35PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:37:46PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
1:37:51PM VOTE AND VIERA ABSTAINING.
1:37:56PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GARDNER, THAT IS THE MOST MIXED-USE
1:37:58PM PROJECT I THINK I EVER READ.
1:38:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE VIERA AS NO VOTING INSTEAD OF
1:38:04PM ABSTAINING.
1:38:04PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]
1:38:14PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INSTEAD OF THE ABSTAIN COLUMN --
1:38:17PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]
1:38:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:38:26PM NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 88.
1:38:28PM ANYONE HERE FOR 88?
1:38:35PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI.
1:38:36PM I ALMOST SAID GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
1:38:39PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:38:41PM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
1:38:42PM WE HAD NO OBJECTIONS ON THIS ONE.
1:38:45PM IT WENT THROUGH ON FIRST READING.
1:38:47PM THERE WAS A COMPANION PIECE THAT WAS PART OF THE LAND USE
1:38:49PM AMENDMENT THAT PRECEDED THIS, AND YOU ADOPTED THE LAND USE
1:38:52PM AMENDMENT AT YOUR LAST COUNCIL HEARING.
1:38:55PM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
1:38:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
1:38:59PM OKAY.
1:39:02PM SEEING NONE, IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO PUBLICLY
1:39:04PM COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 88?
1:39:05PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
1:39:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO CLOSE.
1:39:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:39:10PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:39:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:39:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:39:13PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU MIND, SIR, READING ITEM 88?
1:39:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-75, ORDINANCE BEING
1:39:21PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
1:39:23PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
1:39:25PM 7702 SOUTH MASCOTTE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
1:39:29PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
1:39:31PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD
1:39:36PM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED);
1:39:39PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:39:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
1:39:43PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:39:44PM RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:39:49PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
1:39:52PM VOTE.
1:39:54PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
1:39:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, WE MOVE TO ITEM 89.
1:40:01PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, MORRIS MASSEY, 101 EAST KENNEDY
1:40:04PM BOULEVARD HERE IN TAMPA.
1:40:06PM AGAIN, THIS WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:40:08PM WE'VE MADE THE REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AND WE ASK YOUR
1:40:11PM APPROVAL ON SECOND READING.
1:40:12PM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:40:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:40:15PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
1:40:16PM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 89?
1:40:20PM IF SO, COME FORWARD.
1:40:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
1:40:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:40:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:40:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:40:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:40:26PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND TAKING ITEM 89?
1:40:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
1:40:33PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
1:40:36PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 711 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IN
1:40:39PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
1:40:42PM IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD
1:40:45PM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BANK WITH A DRIVE-IN AND
1:40:48PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
1:40:52PM BANK WITH DRIVE-IN, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL
1:40:57PM OFFICE, CLINIC); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:41:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
1:41:04PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:41:05PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:41:08PM >>THE CLERK: [NO MICROPHONE] -- MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON
1:41:10PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
1:41:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 90.
1:41:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MISSED IT.
1:41:26PM WE MOVED ON.
1:41:27PM >> OKAY, GOOD.
1:41:28PM DID I WIN.
1:41:29PM CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER, BRICKLEMYER LAW GROUP, HERE FOR THE
1:41:32PM APPLICANT.
1:41:33PM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
1:41:33PM WE MADE OUR CHANGES.
1:41:35PM APPRECIATE STAFF.
1:41:36PM THANKS.
1:41:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
1:41:38PM OKAY.
1:41:39PM THERE BEING NONE, IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO
1:41:41PM COMMENT ON ITEM 90?
1:41:42PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
1:41:44PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:41:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:41:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:41:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:41:49PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU MIND TAKING 90?
1:41:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 19-80, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
1:41:58PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING, ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING
1:42:01PM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 624 SOUTH MacDILL
1:42:05PM AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
1:42:08PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS
1:42:11PM CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) AND RM-24 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY)
1:42:16PM TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND
1:42:19PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:42:22PM AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND INCLUDING
1:42:26PM WAIVERS AND SITE PLAN CHANGES.
1:42:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
1:42:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
1:42:34PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BRICKLEMYER, NUMBER 90 WAS THE TREE,
1:42:42PM RIGHT?
1:42:42PM >> NO TREE.
1:42:43PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WASN'T THE TREE.
1:42:44PM >> NUMBER 90 IS THE ONE WITH NO TREE.
1:42:47PM I WAS VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THERE WAS NO TREE.
1:42:49PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED.
1:42:51PM I THOUGHT THE ADDRESS WAS WRONG.
1:42:52PM >> NO, THIS IS ON MacDILL.
1:42:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY MOTION STILL STANDS.
1:43:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
1:43:02PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:43:04PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:43:09PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
1:43:12PM VOTE.
1:43:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 91.
1:43:20PM >> HELLO.
1:43:21PM THIS IS MIRIAM WEBER.
1:43:23PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
1:43:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
1:43:25PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 91?
1:43:28PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
1:43:32PM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 91?
1:43:38PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANTED TO TELL, MS. WEBER, IS IT?
1:43:42PM THAT IS THE MOST WELL BEHAVED TWO-YEAR-OLD.
1:43:45PM SHE SAT PATIENTLY WITHOUT ONE FUSS THE WHOLE MORNING.
1:43:48PM WE SEE HER FEET IN RESPONSE.
1:43:53PM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:43:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE WITH THAT.
1:43:55PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
1:43:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:43:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:44:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:44:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:44:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU MIND TAKING 91?
1:44:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE SU 2-19-08, MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
1:44:10PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
1:44:13PM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2); APPROVING A SCHOOL IN
1:44:21PM AN RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) ZONING DISTRICT IN THE
1:44:25PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 6716 SOUTH TRASK STREET, IN THE CITY OF
1:44:28PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
1:44:32PM HEREOF; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:44:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:44:35PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:44:36PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:44:43PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
1:44:46PM VOTE.
1:44:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 92.
1:44:51PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
1:44:53PM COORDINATION.
1:44:54PM THIS IS THE VACATING FOR THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.
1:44:56PM THE AGENT COULD NOT RETURN, PRIOR COMMITMENT.
1:45:00PM I SAID I WOULD BE HERE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
1:45:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
1:45:05PM ANY QUESTIONS?
1:45:05PM OKAY.
1:45:07PM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 92?
1:45:12PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
1:45:13PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:45:15PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:45:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:45:18PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:45:19PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU MIND TAKING ITEM 92?
1:45:23PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO NOT.
1:45:26PM IT APPEARS I VOTED FOR IT BEFORE.
1:45:28PM I DO RECALL, JUST EDITORIALLY, TYPICALLY I DON'T LIKE
1:45:30PM VACATING ALLEYS, BUT IN THIS CASE, THIS WAS OVER BY THE
1:45:35PM AIRPORT.
1:45:35PM IT WAS VERY INDUSTRIAL AND THAT SORT OF THING AND MADE A LOT
1:45:38PM OF SENSE.
1:45:39PM I WILL MOVE FILE VAC 19-21, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
1:45:46PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
1:45:49PM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING PORTIONS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN
1:45:52PM AS WEST SOUTH AVENUE, WEST OSBORNE AVENUE AND NORTH RENELLIE
1:45:57PM DRIVE IN REPLAT OF DREW PARK, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
1:46:00PM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE
1:46:02PM FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
1:46:05PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
1:46:07PM RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING
1:46:10PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:46:11PM I CORRECT MYSELF.
1:46:11PM IT IS NOT VACATING ALLEYS.
1:46:13PM IT'S VACATING STREETS.
1:46:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:46:18PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:46:20PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:46:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON -- [INAUDIBLE]
1:46:33PM [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]
1:46:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS THE FINAL ONE FOR THE LAND USE
1:46:36PM HEARINGS.
1:46:37PM LET ME SEE OVER HERE IN THE STAFF REPORTS, I WANTED TO
1:46:42PM MOTION, MR. SHELBY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
1:46:45PM I HAD A VERY BUSY WEEK FOR ITEM 101, JUST TO HAVE THAT HELD
1:46:53PM IN NEXT WEEK'S TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
1:46:56PM TWO WEEKS.
1:46:58PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
1:46:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 21st.
1:47:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
1:47:02PM SOUNDS GOOD.
1:47:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE TAKE THE
1:47:05PM OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT I'LL WORK WITH YOU
1:47:07PM ON.
1:47:08PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
1:47:10PM I'LL CERTAINLY TAKE IT FROM YOU UNLESS YOU WANT TO HAVE IT
1:47:12PM IN YOUR NAME THAT YOU'LL COME BACK.
1:47:17PM I KNOW YOU USUALLY DO.
1:47:18PM BUT THE OTHER THING IS TO CORRECT IT FROM BEING ENCOURAGED.
1:47:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: DISCOURAGING, NOT ENCOURAGING.
1:47:26PM THANK YOU.
1:47:26PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:47:28PM WHO WAS THAT SECONDED BY?
1:47:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK I SECONDED YOUR MOTION.
1:47:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT.
1:47:35PM I'LL HAND OVER THE GAVEL.
1:47:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:47:37PM WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:47:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:47:40PM MOTION PASSES.
1:47:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS RELATING TO ITEM 101.
1:47:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
1:47:46PM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS.
1:47:48PM SO LET'S GO TO MOTIONS.
1:47:50PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:47:52PM I'M SORRY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, SOMETHING I'M -- WE'RE GOING
1:47:55PM TO BE KEEPING AN EYE ON, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE BIT BY IT
1:47:59PM TODAY, WHENEVER WE HAVE STAFF REPORTS, TO SPECIFY, IF AT THE
1:48:03PM TIME OF MAKING THE MOTION, IF YOU ALL WANT STAFF TO BE
1:48:08PM COMING TO SPEAK FOR IT.
1:48:10PM TODAY WE HAD AN ABUNDANCE OF THEM AND HAD TO MOVE THROUGH
1:48:13PM THEM FAST.
1:48:14PM I USUALLY LIKE TO GIVE MORE TIME TO THEM, MORE ROBUST
1:48:18PM DISCUSSION.
1:48:18PM BUT GIVEN THE TRAFFIC JAM WE HAD TODAY, THAT CAN BE EASILY
1:48:21PM PREVENTED BY DOING THAT.
1:48:22PM JUST FROM HERE ON OUT.
1:48:24PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
1:48:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE KEY THERE IS WE JUST SAY YOU WANT
1:48:27PM THEM TO APPEAR OR YOU WANT A WRITTEN REPORT OR BOTH, I
1:48:30PM GUESS.
1:48:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, EXACTLY.
1:48:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST TO INTERJECT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT
1:48:37PM THIS A LITTLE BIT AT OUR AGENDA REVIEW.
1:48:39PM I THINK WHAT'S HELPFUL IS CHIEF BENNETT IS NOW REQUIRING ALL
1:48:42PM THE STAFF TO GET THEIR STAFF REPORTS IN THE TUESDAY PRIOR TO
1:48:49PM THE FOLLOWING WEEK'S HEARING AND THEN WE GIVE THEM TO THE
1:48:52PM CLERK I BELIEVE BY THURSDAY.
1:48:53PM THE POINT BEING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE REPORT -- THE
1:48:56PM WRITTEN REPORTS, ALL THE STAFF IS TRYING TO GET THE WRITTEN
1:48:59PM REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
1:49:03PM AND SO WITH THE IDEA BEING THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU
1:49:06PM CAN CALL US.
1:49:08PM YOU CAN REACH OUT.
1:49:09PM YOU CAN ASK PEOPLE TO MEET WITH YOU.
1:49:11PM THEN IF YOU STILL NEED SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY APPEAR -- THE
1:49:15PM HOPE IS THAT WE CAN -- SORT OF THE DEFAULT IS A WRITTEN
1:49:19PM REPORT WITH OBVIOUS EXCEPTIONS WHEN IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE
1:49:23PM SOMEONE AT THE PODIUM.
1:49:25PM AGAIN, THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTIVATION BEHIND GETTING THE
1:49:28PM REPORTS TO YOU EARLIER THAN THE STAFF REPORTS USED TO GET TO
1:49:31PM COUNCIL IN THE PAST.
1:49:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
1:49:35PM COUNCIL CARLSON.
1:49:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ON THAT POINT, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT
1:49:39PM A NUMBER OF THEM?
1:49:40PM I KNOW SEVERAL WERE MINE SO PARTLY MY FAULT.
1:49:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S EXACTLY -- I ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO
1:49:47PM THAT.
1:49:48PM THEN WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT MERELY HAVING REPORTS,
1:49:51PM RIGHT, I WITHDREW THAT, BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO START DOING IS
1:49:54PM HAVING FIVE REPORTS THAT REQUIRE LIVE APPEARANCES PER
1:49:59PM MEETING SO THAT WE CAN LIMIT THAT.
1:50:00PM IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPELLING, WE CAN DO SIX.
1:50:03PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
1:50:04PM PRETTY MUCH HAVING FIVE SO WE CAN AVOID WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.
1:50:08PM THE DELAY I THINK TO THE PUBLIC, AND THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC
1:50:13PM COMMENT AS WELL AS LAND DEVELOPMENT, EVERYDAY FOLKS WAITING
1:50:17PM FOR THAT AND HAD TO WAIT A LONG TIME, INCLUDING PAST LUNCH,
1:50:20PM WAS RELATIVELY MODEST, BUT THE REAL ISSUE THAT SUFFERED I
1:50:23PM THINK WAS JUST A DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUES.
1:50:26PM BECAUSE I HAD TO HURRY UP EVERYBODY.
1:50:30PM YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS.
1:50:31PM YEAH, SO WE'LL DO THAT.
1:50:32PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
1:50:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST NOT TO BELABOR THAT TOO MUCH, BUT,
1:50:38PM FRANKLY, I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD JUST TODAY,
1:50:43PM FOR EXAMPLE, THAT CIRCLED AROUND THE VARIOUS STAFF REPORTS
1:50:46PM ARE VERY HELPFUL.
1:50:47PM AND THEY WOULDN'T BE MUCH OF A DISCUSSION IF THE STAFF
1:50:50PM PERSON WASN'T THERE.
1:50:51PM ANYWAY, I GUESS WE CAN CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN
1:50:56PM MR. BENNETT RETURNS.
1:50:58PM OKAY.
1:51:00PM MOTIONS.
1:51:01PM SO MS. DUNCAN APPEARED IN FRONT OF US TO TALK ABOUT BRICK
1:51:07PM STREETS, AND SHE GAVE US THE WRITTEN REPORT AS WELL.
1:51:10PM SHE ALSO INDICATED THAT IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE BECAUSE THEY
1:51:17PM REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN VERY FAR IN TERMS OF THE PIPES PROJECT
1:51:22PM BECAUSE COUNCIL JUST APPROVED IT A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
1:51:25PM WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MS. DUNCAN COME BACK A YEAR
1:51:32PM FROM NOW -- AND I HAVE NO DATE.
1:51:36PM I'LL JUST SAY THE FIRST REGULAR AGENDA MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
1:51:38PM AND APPEAR AND CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT BRICK STREETS,
1:51:44PM ASPHALT, ET CETERA, AS IT WAS LAID OUT IN HER MEMO AND SEE
1:51:48PM IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE.
1:51:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:51:52PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:51:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:51:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:51:56PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THE DRONES, AND YOU ALL
1:52:00PM HEARD ME MENTION THIS, I'D LIKE TPD TO COME BACK -- WELL,
1:52:06PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPEAR.
1:52:08PM IT CAN BE A WRITTEN REPORT TO GIVE US A WRITTEN REPORT
1:52:11PM SUMMARIZING THE USE OF THE DRONES THAT WERE JUST PURCHASED
1:52:16PM IN A VERY CURSORY WAY, BUT JUST SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO
1:52:20PM MONITOR HOW THEY ARE USED AND TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE USED
1:52:26PM APPROPRIATELY UNDER THE STATE STATUTE.
1:52:28PM THAT WOULD BE, LET'S SAY, THE FIRST MEETING -- FIRST REGULAR
1:52:33PM MEETING IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
1:52:40PM OH, YES, AND ALSO -- DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT?
1:52:46PM ALSO, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT SOME PUBLIC INFORMATION GET OUT
1:52:52PM TO THE COMMUNITY CURRENTLY, LIKE NOW, AND THIS WOULD JUST BE
1:53:01PM -- I GUESS WE WOULD URGE THE ADMINISTRATION, CAN'T MAKE
1:53:04PM THEM, BUT URGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO USE THE PIO SYSTEM AND
1:53:09PM GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE DRONE --
1:53:12PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASING THE DRONES AND THIS IS
1:53:15PM THE PURPOSE THAT WE ARE USING THE DRONES, AND THIS IS NOT
1:53:19PM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE DRONES FOR.
1:53:22PM LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM FOR AND THIS
1:53:24PM ISN'T WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM FOR.
1:53:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH
1:53:29PM A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:53:31PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:53:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:53:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:53:35PM ANYTHING ELSE?
1:53:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER THING, IN MY ABSENCE -- WHAT
1:53:41PM WAS IT, CHARLIE, YOU USED TO SAY WHEN YOU WERE OUT FOR FOUR
1:53:44PM YEARS?
1:53:44PM YOU USED TO SAY YOU WERE OUT IN THE WILDERNESS.
1:53:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I FORGET.
1:53:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, WHEN I WAS OUT IN THE WILDERNESS
1:53:50PM FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD
1:53:56PM ANOTHER MAYOR IORIO, WHO I SERVED UNDER, SEVERAL OTHERS
1:54:00PM SERVED UNDER, AT LEAST CHARLIE, HONOR HER IN A BIG WAY.
1:54:04PM AND I KEPT THINKING THAT 40th STREET WAS HER SIGNATURE
1:54:10PM PROJECT.
1:54:11PM SHE WORKED SO HARD ON 40th STREET FOR YEARS AND YEARS WITH
1:54:13PM THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, AND TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER IN
1:54:16PM TERMS OF REALLY MAKING THAT A VERY, VERY NICE BOULEVARD.
1:54:20PM NOW, IT CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL IN TERMS OF ROUNDABOUTS AND
1:54:23PM THAT SORT OF THING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY BUILT
1:54:25PM THAT BRIDGE.
1:54:26PM THAT WAS A NEW BRIDGE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
1:54:28PM AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE -- SHE GOT A GARAGE NAMED AFTER
1:54:34PM HER, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS VERY EXCITING.
1:54:38PM I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO NAME 40th STREET ALL
1:54:41PM OR PART OF 40th STREET AFTER MAYOR PAM IORIO.
1:54:46PM I KNOW THAT MIGHT NOT BE OUR PURVIEW, BUT MY MOTION WOULD BE
1:54:51PM TO LOOK INTO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH
1:54:57PM MAYOR CASTOR AND WHATEVER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW IS
1:55:00PM NECESSARY.
1:55:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT CONSIDERING I
1:55:07PM BELIEVE 40th STREET WAS HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OVERALL,
1:55:10PM WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE CITY'S HISTORY.
1:55:12PM SO, OF COURSE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY MERIT IT.
1:55:14PM I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
1:55:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:55:18PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:55:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:55:21PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:55:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S IT TODAY.
1:55:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:55:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:55:26PM IN REFERENCE TO THE EARLIER COMMENTS ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT,
1:55:33PM STAFF REPORTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUBLIC SERVANTS.
1:55:37PM I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE'VE GONE LONG AND PEOPLE HAVE
1:55:39PM CRITICIZED US FOR GOING LONG, FOR ME, I DON'T CARE ABOUT
1:55:43PM GOING LONG.
1:55:44PM I CARE ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT
1:55:47PM TO KNOW AND THEY ARE TAXPAYERS.
1:55:49PM WE'RE PAID BY THE TAXPAYERS TO DO A JOB.
1:55:55PM IN REFERENCE TO STAFF HAVING TO WAIT, AND I HEARD THE
1:55:59PM COMMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
1:56:01PM I SYMPATHIZE THAT STAFF HAS TO SIT AROUND SOMETIMES.
1:56:06PM I DO.
1:56:06PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE PAID TO BE A CITY
1:56:11PM EMPLOYEE, AND WE'RE PAID TO HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY
1:56:14PM AND TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
1:56:16PM I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE FEELS.
1:56:18PM I CAN ONLY TELL YOU HOW I FEEL AND HOW I KNOW THE CITIZENS
1:56:22PM FEEL.
1:56:22PM I MUST LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT I'M ON THEIR SIDE WHEN WE
1:56:27PM TALK ABOUT THEM NOT HAVING THEIR OPPORTUNITY AND HAVING TO
1:56:29PM WAIT FOR THEIR OPPORTUNITY.
1:56:30PM IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT,
1:56:33PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE.
1:56:35PM STAFF REPORTS ARE VERY CRITICAL.
1:56:38PM WE HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THEM.
1:56:40PM I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO LIMIT THEM BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, A
1:56:44PM LOT OF TIMES IT'S SOMETHING I MAY MISS OR SOMEBODY MAY MISS
1:56:48PM AND THEN IT'S BROUGHT OUT DURING DISCUSSION.
1:56:50PM NOW WE'RE CHANGING SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GO ONE
1:56:53PM ROAD AND NOW WE'RE DOWN ANOTHER ROAD.
1:56:55PM WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SAYING WE'LL CHANGE ALL THE
1:56:58PM PROCESS TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE ON CERTAIN ISSUES.
1:57:00PM I WANT US TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE -- OUR CHARTER
1:57:04PM SAYS THAT STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO APPEAR BEFORE US WHEN
1:57:08PM REQUESTED FOR INFORMATION.
1:57:09PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.
1:57:14PM IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO US THAT
1:57:16PM STAFF COMES FORTH AND GIVES US THE INFORMATION.
1:57:19PM IF IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET IT OUT, IT JUST TAKES A WHILE TO
1:57:22PM GET IT OUT.
1:57:23PM BUT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL.
1:57:24PM WE'RE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
1:57:27PM AND NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS OR OVER THE TV OR WHATEVER, IT
1:57:29PM IS WHAT IT IS.
1:57:29PM THIS IS OUR HOUSE, AND WE HAVE TO WORK OUR HOUSE.
1:57:33PM WE CAN'T BE DICTATED TO BY OTHER PEOPLE SAYING WE SHOULD DO
1:57:35PM THIS, WE SHOULD DO THAT.
1:57:36PM WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO
1:57:38PM FOR THE PEOPLE.
1:57:39PM I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
1:57:40PM THAT IS MY POSITION ON THAT.
1:57:42PM IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET
1:57:45PM THE JOB DONE.
1:57:45PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE HERE TO
1:57:48PM SERVE THEM.
1:57:49PM ON THAT NOTE, MR. CHAIRMAN --
1:57:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, WERE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION
1:57:54PM RELATED TO THAT?
1:57:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, NO.
1:57:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: DID ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT OR
1:58:00PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
1:58:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE COMMENTS LIKE I'M FREE UNTIL
1:58:06PM 7:00.
1:58:07PM I HAVE NOTHING UNTIL 9:00 A.M.
1:58:10PM I'M TRY TO BE FUNNY AND I'M NOT REALLY FUNNY.
1:58:13PM THE POINT I'M MAKING, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO GET THROUGH
1:58:18PM THE AGENDA, I GOT ELECTED, WE GOT ELECTED.
1:58:21PM ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAYS, TO DO THE WORK
1:58:25PM OF THE PEOPLE HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES.
1:58:27PM THAT'S IT.
1:58:28PM WHEN WE CAMPAIGN, WE SAY WE'LL BE YOUR VOICE, WE'LL LISTEN,
1:58:31PM WE'LL THIS AND THAT.
1:58:33PM IF WE'RE HERE TWO HOURS PER MEETING OR 12 HOURS PER MEETING,
1:58:36PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
1:58:37PM I'M HAPPY TO DO MY JOB IN SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
1:58:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS LISTEN
1:58:45PM TO THE PUBLIC AND THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO
1:58:47PM THAT.
1:58:48PM IF FOLKS COME HERE, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO LISTEN TO THEM.
1:58:51PM THE ARGUMENTS THAT THE FOLKS MADE THIS MORNING ARE
1:58:54PM LEGITIMATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE JOBS, AND WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME
1:58:58PM WHEN THEY SHOULD COME DOWN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I DON'T EVEN
1:59:01PM KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE.
1:59:04PM YOU HAVE A HARD JOB JUGGLING ALL THESE THINGS, I WISH WE
1:59:08PM COULD HAVE A TIME CERTAIN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MAYBE IN
1:59:11PM ADDITION TO A TIME CERTAIN FOR STAFF.
1:59:15PM YOU ALL MAY KNOW BETTER THAN I, EVEN IF -- TIME CERTAIN 9:30
1:59:19PM TILL 10.
1:59:21PM IF WE HAVE TOO MANY, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AFTER STAFF
1:59:24PM REPORTS, BUT AT LEAST HAVE A TIME WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN
1:59:26PM COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND THE WHOLE
1:59:29PM DAY.
1:59:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
1:59:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, MY OPINION, THE
1:59:36PM STATEMENTS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, FROM THE PUBLIC, MY
1:59:41PM OPINION, IT SHOULD COME FIRST.
1:59:44PM IF WE ARE TO LISTEN AND HAVE IT TIME SENSITIVE FOR NOT ONLY
1:59:49PM THEM BUT FOR STAFF, WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA
1:59:53PM AFTER THE INVOCATION, AFTER THE PLEDGE, AFTER ROLL CALL, GO
1:59:57PM RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
1:59:58PM THAT WAY THEY HAVE THEIR SET TIME.
2:00:01PM THAT WAY WE CAN DO STAFF AFTER THAT, AFTER OUR CELEBRATION
2:00:06PM OF OTHER THINGS.
2:00:08PM THAT IS JUST MY OPINION AND I LAY IT OUT THERE ON OUR DAIS.
2:00:14PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP.
2:00:16PM YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND HAVING PRACTICED IN
2:00:19PM FRONT OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PASCO COUNTY AND OTHER
2:00:22PM CITIES, I'VE SEEN HOW THEY HANDLE THEIR AGENDA.
2:00:25PM AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT OF OURS.
2:00:29PM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
2:00:35PM GIVING THE PUBLIC SOME CERTAINTY AS TO WHEN THEY CAN BE
2:00:38PM HEARD, THE PEOPLE HERE FOR SECOND READING, SOME CERTAINTY AS
2:00:42PM TO WHEN -- AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.
2:00:44PM AGAIN, IT'S BEING DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
2:00:47PM WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY.
2:00:48PM I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR,
2:00:51PM WHOEVER IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEE IF WE CAN -- AND MARTY,
2:00:55PM TO SEE IF WE CAN REORGANIZE OUR AGENDA TO MAKE IT MORE
2:00:59PM SENSITIVE TO ALL THOSE THINGS.
2:01:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE IN THE SENSE OF OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC'S
2:01:05PM COMMENT SHOULD BE FIRST.
2:01:06PM WHAT WE HAD TODAY IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I
2:01:08PM FRANKLY HANDLED TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND IT'S NOT AN
2:01:13PM EASY POSITION, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE A
2:01:16PM CRACK AT IT, TRUST ME, OVER THE YEARS, IS TRYING TO MAKE
2:01:20PM SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS HEARD.
2:01:21PM IT'S JUST THAT TODAY, YESTERDAY -- OR, I GUESS, IT WAS TWO
2:01:26PM DAYS IN THE AGENDA REVIEW, WE HAD ASKED IF EVERYBODY WANTED
2:01:29PM STAFF TO BE HERE LIVE AND EVERYBODY SAID YES.
2:01:32PM THAT CREATED A HECK OF A TRAFFIC JAM FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY.
2:01:36PM I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD
2:01:40PM KAREN CLAY.
2:01:41PM WE HAD TAMPA BAY WATER.
2:01:42PM WE COULD IN THE FUTURE HAVE THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, THOSE
2:01:45PM KIND OF PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE NON-CEREMONIAL.
2:01:48PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD MITIGATE IT.
2:01:50PM ACTUALLY, TODAY WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE REALLY HAD THAT
2:01:54PM KIND OF A TRAFFIC JAM, AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF, NUMBER ONE,
2:01:57PM THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS WHICH WE CAN DEAL
2:02:00PM WITH THAT AS WELL.
2:02:03PM ANOTHER ISSUE AS WELL, PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE FOR LAND USE
2:02:07PM HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PAYING
2:02:10PM ATTORNEYS THAT CHARGE A LOT BY THE HOUR.
2:02:12PM YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO SE, THEY ARE NOT HERE
2:02:15PM WITH ATTORNEYS AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME.
2:02:18PM THERE'S A LOT OF COURTESY TO BE DONE IN THAT REGARD.
2:02:21PM LET'S WORK ON SOMETHING, MS. ZELMAN, TO FASHION SOMETHING SO
2:02:24PM THAT THERE'S MORE FORESEEABILITY.
2:02:28PM IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT BEHOOVES US.
2:02:30PM I AGREE WITH THAT 100%.
2:02:32PM TODAY WAS JUST A TERRIBLE TRAFFIC JAM.
2:02:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF WE HAVE IT AT 10:30, MAYBE MOVE IT TO
2:02:41PM 11, STAFF REPORTS, BY THE WAY, TIME IT GETS THERE.
2:02:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD POINT BECAUSE 10:00 IS PROBABLY A PANT
2:02:47PM SIZE TOO SMALL FOR OUR WASTE.
2:02:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU'RE
2:02:54PM WORKING WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF, STAFF REPORTS AT 10:00.
2:02:58PM COUNCIL HAS ITS ACTUAL ORDER OF BUSINESS CODIFIED IN YOUR
2:03:02PM RULES OF PROCEDURE.
2:03:03PM AS PART OF THAT, YOU DIRECT PLANNING, WHEN THEY SET THESE
2:03:11PM HEARINGS, ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES, AND THESE HAVE FLUCTUATED
2:03:14PM OVER TIME.
2:03:15PM COUNCIL, THESE ARE NOT MY RULES.
2:03:17PM THESE ARE NOT MS. ZELMAN'S RULES, ATTORNEY'S RULES, STAFF
2:03:22PM RULES.
2:03:22PM THESE ARE YOUR RULES.
2:03:23PM YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS IS WHAT IS BEST FOR COUNCIL BASED ON
2:03:26PM YOUR DISCUSSION.
2:03:27PM RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH THE STAFF REPORT SET FOR A TIME
2:03:29PM CERTAIN, IT'S NOT IN YOUR RULES RIGHT NOW.
2:03:31PM ULTIMATELY IF IT WORKS OR HOWEVER YOU ULTIMATELY WANT TO DO
2:03:34PM THAT, THE DIRECTION WOULD BE FOR ME TO AMEND YOUR RULES.
2:03:37PM YOUR STAFF REPORTS ARE NOT IN THE RULES, BUT WHAT ARE IN THE
2:03:41PM RULES ARE FIRST -- SECOND READINGS ARE SET FOR 9:30.
2:03:47PM THAT'S WHAT YOUR PETITIONERS AND PUBLIC EXPECT THAT, AND
2:03:49PM YOUR SECOND READS ARE 9:30 AND YOUR FIRST READS ARE SET FOR
2:03:55PM 10:30.
2:03:56PM THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE -- RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IS
2:03:59PM YOUR 10:00.
2:04:00PM I COUNTED BY MY BEST NUMBER, YOU HAD 15 PRESENTATIONS BY
2:04:04PM STAFF TODAY BASED ON WHAT WAS ALSO REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT
2:04:09PM DOCKET.
2:04:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
2:04:13PM ONE, I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH MY TWO GENTLEMEN TO THE LEFT IS
2:04:19PM THAT WE'RE ALL HERE.
2:04:23PM WE'VE BEEN ELECTED TO BE HERE.
2:04:27PM THURSDAY IS THE DAY AND WHATEVER IT TAKES IS WHATEVER IT
2:04:31PM TAKES.
2:04:31PM WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE HERE UNTIL 5 OR 12 OR WHATEVER, THERE'S
2:04:35PM NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT NOON.
2:04:38PM SOMETIMES IT WORKS.
2:04:38PM SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.
2:04:39PM MR. CHAIRMAN I WOULDN'T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF.
2:04:42PM IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE WERE HERE 9 TILL 12:30.
2:04:46PM TOOK AN HOUR LUNCH AND THEN WE FINISHED WITH AN ADDITIONAL
2:04:49PM HALF HOUR AFTER LUNCH.
2:04:51PM FRANKLY, WITH A VERY FULL AGENDA, WITH LOTS OF STAFF
2:04:54PM REPORTS, WITH A COUPLE OF EXTERNAL ITEMS, I THINK WE DID
2:05:00PM VERY WELL.
2:05:01PM I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, ACTUALLY, I'LL COMPLIMENT YOU ON
2:05:05PM ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T SEE ANY FAULT -- AND I KNOW I
2:05:09PM CAN BE LONG-WINDED -- BUT I DON'T SEE ANY FAULT IN YOU
2:05:12PM REMINDING US PERIODICALLY, OKAY, ARE WE ALMOST DONE?
2:05:17PM WE NEED TO KEEP IT TIGHT.
2:05:19PM BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
2:05:20PM I THOUGHT YOU DID THAT ACTUALLY PRETTY EFFECTIVELY TODAY.
2:05:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:05:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH YOU DOING
2:05:24PM THAT.
2:05:25PM I MIGHT NOT ALWAYS LISTEN.
2:05:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE MY JOB HERE IS TO DEAL
2:05:31PM WITH PROCEDURE, SUBSTANCE.
2:05:32PM WE ARE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS DULY ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF OUR
2:05:35PM DISTRICT TO THE CITY.
2:05:36PM IF MEMBERS WANT TO BRING FORTH AN ITEM ON WHATEVER ISSUE IT
2:05:40PM MAY BE, THAT IS OF NO -- I CAN HAVE NO ENTANGLEMENTS WITH
2:05:44PM THAT WHATSOEVER.
2:05:45PM WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO BRING, THAT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL
2:05:48PM MEMBERS WHO ARE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
2:05:50PM I NEVER GET IN THE WAY OF THAT.
2:05:52PM IT'S WHENEVER WE TRY TO FIT STUFF IN.
2:05:55PM I THINK THERE ARE SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES WE CAN MAKE THAT
2:05:59PM CAN BUILD ON THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY.
2:06:03PM WITH THE TIME CERTAIN, THIS HAS REALLY BEEN THE FIRST TIME
2:06:06PM WHEN WE HAD A DELAY OF 30, 40 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT,
2:06:09PM WHICH IS THE CORE OF REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY I THINK FOR
2:06:13PM US.
2:06:13PM BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE VERY
2:06:17PM SIMPLY, IN MY OPINION.
2:06:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON HOW YOU
2:06:23PM HANDLED THE PUBLIC AND YOUR BRAVERY IN WALKING INTO THE
2:06:26PM OTHER ROOM.
2:06:27PM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO VENT
2:06:30PM AND DISCUSS THEIR ISSUES.
2:06:31PM WHEN I WALKED BY THERE, I SAW THAT THEY SEEMED TO BE HAPPY.
2:06:35PM THEY WERE FRUSTRATED THEY COULDN'T SPEAK, BUT THEY WERE
2:06:37PM HAPPY THAT YOU AT LEAST MET WITH THEM.
2:06:39PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
2:06:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALWAYS THE KEY WHICH IS PEOPLE WANT TO
2:06:42PM BE HEARD.
2:06:43PM A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED FOR WHATEVER REASON.
2:06:45PM THE MAIN THING IS, PEOPLE WANT TO FEEL RESPECT.
2:06:48PM WHEN THEY SEE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN PERCEPTION AND
2:06:53PM REALITY DISRESPECTING THEM, WHICH IS WHY I MET WITH THAT
2:06:57PM NICE YOUNG WOMAN AND OTHER PEOPLE, BECAUSE FROM UP HERE, THE
2:07:00PM PERCEPTION MAY BE THAT I'M SITTING ON A THRONE.
2:07:03PM NO.
2:07:05PM I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES.
2:07:06PM I SHARE SOME OF HER FRUSTRATIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE
2:07:09PM RESPECT.
2:07:10PM WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THAT.
2:07:11PM WE HAVE CRA NEXT WEEK, BUT THE WEEK AFTER THAT, HOPEFULLY WE
2:07:14PM CAN MAKE SOME INCREMENTAL CHANGES FOR THAT, IN THE EVENT
2:07:17PM THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP AGAIN, WHICH I THINK IS
2:07:20PM RELATIVELY RARE.
2:07:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE - MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- I'D LIKE
2:07:28PM TO MAKE A MOTION.
2:07:30PM THE CHIEF JUDGE, I WENT TO THE SAFE AND SOUND GROUP.
2:07:35PM THEY HAD THEIR ANNUAL MEETING WITH ALL THEIR REPRESENTATIVES
2:07:38PM THERE, AND THEY ASKED THAT AT SOME POINT THEY COME AND MAKE
2:07:42PM A PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO ALL THEY ARE DOING IN
2:07:46PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH OUR JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
2:07:47PM AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE THE
2:07:50PM 13th JUDICIAL COURT APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL TO MAKE A
2:07:53PM PRESENTATION REGARDING JUVENILE JUSTICE DIVERSION PROGRAMS.
2:07:55PM I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER 5th
2:07:57PM REGULAR SESSION COUNCIL.
2:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:08:00PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:08:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MAKER OF THE
2:08:07PM MOTION, DID YOU WANT TO ASSOCIATE A PERIOD OF TIME OF LENGTH
2:08:11PM FOR THAT PRESENTATION?
2:08:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:08:14PM HOW LONG ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
2:08:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 10, 15 MINUTES.
2:08:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE DO 10 MINUTES FOR THE
2:08:19PM PRESENTATION, 5 MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION?
2:08:21PM OKAY.
2:08:22PM GOOD.
2:08:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?
2:08:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
2:08:24PM SIR, I WOULD ALSO --
2:08:36PM WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR CEMETERIES IN HILLSBOROUGH
2:08:38PM COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS.
2:08:40PM AND I ASKED FOR A SPECIAL MEETING BACK ON THE 24th, BUT
2:08:44PM SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME.
2:08:46PM I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE PREVIOUS MOTION I MADE ON 10/24/19
2:08:51PM REGARDING SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SET FOR 11/8 AT ROBLES PARK
2:08:54PM TO BE POSTPONED AND THE NEED FOR IT TO BE REEXAMINED UNTIL
2:09:00PM AFTER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY UPDATES REPORT ON THE MATTER ON
2:09:04PM ZION CEMETERY IS HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 5th,
2:09:08PM 2019, IN OUR REGULAR SESSION.
2:09:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: WAS THAT FOR A REPORT ON THAT DAY?
2:09:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE DUE TO COME ON DECEMBER 5th FOR
2:09:16PM A FULL REPORT.
2:09:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THERE ANY WAY, COUNCILMAN -- HAVE YOU
2:09:19PM ALREADY COORDINATED THAT?
2:09:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ALREADY BY MOTION OF COUNCIL.
2:09:23PM ON YOUR AGENDA.
2:09:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
2:09:25PM I SEE IT THERE.
2:09:27PM EXCUSE ME.
2:09:28PM MY BAD.
2:09:28PM WAS THAT A MOTION?
2:09:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:09:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION WAS TO REMOVE THE ZION CEMETERY
2:09:33PM FOR TOMORROW AND YOU'LL HAVE IT RESCHEDULED.
2:09:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
2:09:37PM THE SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING, CORRECT.
2:09:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:09:40PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:09:42PM ANY IN FAVOR?
2:09:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:09:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE LAST APPEAL, GENTLEMEN, AS YOU KNOW, A
2:09:47PM LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL
2:09:50PM ACTUAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTINGS.
2:09:53PM A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE CALLED AND BEEN TELLING ME
2:09:56PM ABOUT THIS SPECIAL EVENT THAT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE.
2:10:00PM I HAD THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR PAUL DIAL LOOK INTO
2:10:04PM AN ACTUAL REAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHT CEREMONY IN ROBERT COLE
2:10:09PM PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED ON MLK AND 19th STREET.
2:10:12PM THEY CAME BACK TO ME WITH A PROPOSAL FROM A COMPANY CALLED
2:10:16PM FESTIVE -- MAKE SURE I HAVE THE CORRECT NAME -- FESTIVE
2:10:23PM LIGHTING, WHO ACTUALLY DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK OF CHRISTMAS
2:10:27PM TREES WITH THE LIGHTING AND SO FORTH.
2:10:29PM THEY CAME BACK AND TOLD ME WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THIS
2:10:32PM PARTICULAR PROJECT.
2:10:33PM THAT PROJECT WILL COST PROBABLY $54,000 TO ACTUALLY HAVE A
2:10:37PM 30-FOOT TREE LIGHTING AND PUT IT IN A LOCATION AT THE POND.
2:10:41PM OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF FUNDS.
2:10:45PM APPARENTLY, THE CRA, ACCORDING TO MR. JOHNSON WITH THE NEW
2:10:49PM RULES AND REGULATIONS, CAN'T HELP BUILD THIS PLATFORM AND SO
2:10:56PM FORTH WITH THE TREE.
2:10:57PM NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
2:10:58PM MY POINT IS TO HAVE AN APPEAL.
2:11:01PM I TALKED TO OUR INTERIM FINANCIAL CHIEF OFFICER IN REFERENCE
2:11:06PM TO HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT SETTING THE FUND.
2:11:09PM APPARENTLY PARKS AND RECREATION ALREADY HAVE A FUND CALLED
2:11:11PM FRIENDS OF TAMPA BAY.
2:11:12PM I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES OR ANY IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
2:11:15PM AT-LARGE, IF THEY COULD POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ENDEAVOR
2:11:19PM OF GETTING A CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING PROGRAM TREE ERECTED IN
2:11:24PM EAST TAMPA.
2:11:25PM JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO MY
2:11:29PM COLLEAGUES.
2:11:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FRIENDS OF TAMPA
2:11:32PM RECREATION.
2:11:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, HE'S GOING TO GET ME FULL NAME.
2:11:35PM I THINK FRIENDS OF TAMPA RECREATION.
2:11:37PM WE CAN DONATE FUNDS AND EARMARK STRICTLY FOR THAT PROJECT.
2:11:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
2:11:42PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:11:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
2:11:45PM WE'RE ALL GETTING INVITED TO THE TREE LIGHTINGS, HYDE PARK,
2:11:48PM DOWNTOWN, EVERYBODY HAS GOT A TREE.
2:11:51PM EAST TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE A TREE AND WEST TAMPA, TOO.
2:12:01PM YOU'RE RIGHT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP THERE, WHY DON'T THEY GET
2:12:04PM TO ENJOY WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE GETS?
2:12:06PM THAT'S IT.
2:12:07PM THANKS.
2:12:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:12:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING TODAY.
2:12:11PM SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THOUGH.
2:12:12PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
2:12:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH THE PLAN, BUT $54,000, PUT
2:12:19PM ANOTHER 60, 70 THOUSAND, YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE.
2:12:23PM THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.
2:12:25PM YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE AT THE END, NOT GOING TO
2:12:28PM HAVE A HOUSE.
2:12:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
2:12:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:12:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY
2:12:47PM STAFF COME BACK AND GIVE US SUGGESTIONS FOR ORDINANCES FOR
2:12:52PM PROTECTING THE BRICKS UNDER ASPHALT.
2:12:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT BACK, SIR?
2:12:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO MONTHS.
2:13:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
2:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT
2:13:04PM DOWN A SPECIFIC DATE, DO WE?
2:13:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE DO.
2:13:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT A WRITTEN REPORT?
2:13:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST WRITTEN.
2:13:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WRITTEN REPORT, MY SUGGESTION IS YOU PUT IT
2:13:13PM ON THE AGENDA THAT WAY.
2:13:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY 9.
2:13:18PM OKAY, GOOD.
2:13:18PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
2:13:20PM WHEN YOU SAY PROTECT THEM, DO YOU MEAN PROTECT THEM AS THE
2:13:25PM ASPHALT IS BEING REMOVED FOR THE PIPES PROJECT OR DO YOU
2:13:28PM MEAN?
2:13:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
2:13:30PM SO THE MOTION WAS TO ASK STAFF TO GIVE US RECOMMENDED --
2:13:37PM POSSIBLE ORDINANCES TO PROTECT -- AND I'LL ADD PRESERVE THE
2:13:43PM BRICKS UNDER ASPHALT STREETS.
2:13:49PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]
2:13:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, AND THIS WILL JUST BE A STAFF REPORT.
2:13:56PM I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TOO ROBUST.
2:13:58PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:14:00PM A SECOND BY WHOM?
2:14:01PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:14:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:14:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:14:04PM JANUARY 9th.
2:14:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND THING IS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
2:14:13PM MOTION TO OFFER A COMMENDATION TO THE THOMAS JEFFERSON
2:14:16PM SCHOOL ALUMNI ASSOCIATION FOR RAISING TO THE STATE 178,000
2:14:20PM IN SCHOLARSHIPS DESERVING COLLEGE-BOUND STUDENTS.
2:14:23PM THIS COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED ON SATURDAY,
2:14:25PM NOVEMBER 12th.
2:14:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:14:29PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:14:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:14:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:14:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO DO YOU WANT PRESENTING THAT?
2:14:37PM I HAVE THAT ON MY DESK.
2:14:39PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:14:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] [NOT SPEAKING INTO A
2:14:54PM MICROPHONE]
2:14:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS SATURDAY.
2:15:04PM YOLIE CAPIN THAT EVENING IS BEING INDUCTED INTO THE
2:15:07PM JEFFERSON HALL OF FAME.
2:15:09PM I'LL BE THERE TO HONOR OUR FRIEND.
2:15:12PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:15:15PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:15:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:15:18PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:15:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENDATION MADE
2:15:23PM FOR CONGA CALIENTE, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 16 YEARS.
2:15:27PM THEY DRAW A CROWD FROM 50 TO 60 THOUSAND, AL LOPEZ PARK,
2:15:32PM PRESENT IT AT THE FIRST MEETING WE HAVE IN DECEMBER.
2:15:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:15:38PM LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ACTUALLY NO COMMENDATIONS
2:15:42PM THAT DAY.
2:15:43PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:15:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:15:46PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:15:46PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
2:15:47PM DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
2:15:49PM OKAY.
2:15:49PM JUST VERY BRIEFLY FOR ME, IF I MAY, THIS PAST SATURDAY I
2:15:53PM GAVE A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA HISPANIC BAR ASSOCIATION
2:15:56PM FOR THE 13th ANNIVERSARY GALA.
2:15:57PM LIKE TO RETROACTIVELY MOTION FOR THAT.
2:16:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A
2:16:02PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:16:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:16:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND, PURSUANT TO THE PRESENTATION FROM
2:16:08PM FRIEND KAREN CLAY, A MOTION FOR A LETTER TO THE HILLSBOROUGH
2:16:10PM STATE DELEGATION OPPOSING CUTS TO MEDICAID WAIVERS IN THE
2:16:14PM PRESENT PLANS FOR REVISIONS.
2:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND
2:16:17PM FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:16:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:16:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, IN THE WAKE OF THE RECENT INCIDENT
2:16:23PM WHERE A CAR CRASHED INTO MEL'S HOT DOGS ON BUSCH BOULEVARD,
2:16:26PM I WANTED TO MOTION FOR F.D.O.T. TO COME TO PRESENT ON SAFETY
2:16:28PM ENHANCEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY, INCLUDING LOWERING THE SPEED
2:16:31PM LIMIT, AT THE DECEMBER 5th MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THEIR
2:16:33PM CORRIDOR STUDY THAT'S TO BE RELEASED IN 2020.
2:16:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, WITH ONIONS AND MUSTARD.
2:16:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND MEL I THINK IS COMING.
2:16:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA --
2:16:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR F.D.O.T. TO COME AND UPDATE US ON THE
2:16:49PM SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND PROSPECTIVELY LOWERING THE SPEED
2:16:51PM LIMIT.
2:16:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR OFFICE WILL COORDINATE --
2:16:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ALREADY HAVE, YES, SIR.
2:16:57PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ONE QUESTION, BECAUSE JEAN DUNCAN TEXTED ME
2:17:02PM AFTER COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE HIS MOTION.
2:17:05PM SHE ASKED IF WE COULD PUSH YOUR REQUEST TO LATER IN JANUARY.
2:17:09PM SHE SAID THEY ARE DOING THE RESEARCH, BUT THEY NEED A LITTLE
2:17:12PM MORE TIME.
2:17:12PM I THINK YOU HAD SAID THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
2:17:21PM >> JANUARY 23.
2:17:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO JANUARY 23rd.
2:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
2:17:29PM CARLSON.
2:17:30PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
2:17:31PM COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH THE SECOND.
2:17:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:17:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.
2:17:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH THAT SAID, I HAD A MOTION TO COME
2:17:39PM BACK A YEAR FROM NOW -- [NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE]
2:17:42PM I CAN STRIKE MY MOTION.
2:17:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DID MINE BECAUSE THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT
2:17:51PM DIFFERENT.
2:17:52PM THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO GET SUGGESTED ORDINANCES THAT WE
2:17:55PM NEED TO PUT IN PLACE.
2:17:58PM THEN THE NEXT THING IS, WHERE DO WE STORE THEM?
2:18:01PM WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS EM?
2:18:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE TO STRIKE MINE BECAUSE I THINK
2:18:11PM YOU'LL HIT A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES WHEN WE GET TO YOURS.
2:18:15PM [PAPERS RUSTLING OVER THE MICROPHONE]
2:18:18PM I STRIKE MY NOVEMBER, DECEMBER --
2:18:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS FROM HYDE PARK THIS
2:18:23PM MORNING ALREADY.
2:18:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
2:18:27PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, AND A SECOND BY
2:18:29PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:18:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:18:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:18:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
2:18:35PM REGARDING F.D.O.T. COMING TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL, WITH A SECOND
2:18:38PM FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:18:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:18:40PM OPPOSED?
2:18:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:18:42PM JUST VERY BRIEFLY, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT, MONDAY IS VETERANS DAY.
2:18:47PM HAPPY VETERANS DAY TO SIMON DINGFELDER, ALONG WITH ALL OTHER
2:18:51PM INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SERVED.
2:18:53PM I KNOW ON SUNDAY AT VILA BROTHERS PARK FROM I THINK 12 TO 3,
2:18:58PM THERE IS A VETERANS DAY EVENT.
2:18:59PM THEN THAT MONDAY AT THE VETERANS PARK AT 301, THERE IS A
2:19:04PM VETERANS DAY EVENT AND ALSO AT MOFFITT, I THINK AT 8:00 OR
2:19:08PM 9:00, THEY ALWAYS RAISE THE FLAG AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE SOME
2:19:10PM INDIVIDUALS THERE.
2:19:11PM WHAT ELSE WAS I GOING TO SAY?
2:19:13PM I THINK THAT'S IT.
2:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
2:19:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:19:20PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:19:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:19:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:19:24PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU WISH TO RESCHEDULE -- [INAUDIBLE]
2:19:27PM [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]
2:19:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
2:19:29PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:19:30PM ATU, WE'RE DOING THAT EVERY OTHER MONTH, SO WE'RE GOING TO
2:19:34PM SEEK TO RESCHEDULE THAT TO DECEMBER THE 5th.
2:19:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:19:38PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:19:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:19:40PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
2:19:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
2:19:44PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:19:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
2:19:47PM ANY IN FAVOR?
2:19:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:19:50PM WE ARE DONE.
2:19:51PM [ADJOURNMENT]
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