CRA MEETING
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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8:53:14AM
9:03:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- A FEW MONTHS AGO, A TAMPA NATIVE, A
9:03:12AM FRIEND TO MANY OF US HERE AND NO STRANGER TO THIS CITY HALL,
9:03:15AM IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN
9:03:19AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:03:22AM MR. COHEN.
9:03:23AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:03:24AM IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
9:03:26AM WE ASK GOD'S BLESSING ON OUR COMMUNITY, ON OUR MAYOR, JANE
9:03:34AM CASTOR, ON OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS THEY EMBARK ON THEIR
9:03:39AM IMPORTANT WORK AND ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL OF THE
9:03:42AM MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY IN SO
9:03:45AM MANY DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.
9:03:47AM AS YOU TURN TO YOUR WORK THIS MORNING, AS THE COMMUNITY
9:03:51AM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THESE WORDS.
9:03:55AM I BELIEVE THAT MARGARET THATCHER, WHEN SHE BECAME PRIME
9:04:00AM MINISTER OF GREAT BRITAIN, REFERENCED THAT THEY ARE FROM
9:04:03AM ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI, WHERE THERE IS DISCORD, MAY WE BRING
9:04:10AM HARMONY.
9:04:10AM WHERE THERE IS ERROR, MAY WE BRING TRUTH.
9:04:13AM WHERE THERE IS DOUBT, MAY WE BRING FAITH, AND WHERE THERE IS
9:04:16AM DESPAIR, MAY WE BRING HOPE.
9:04:18AM AMEN.
9:04:18AM >> AMEN.
9:04:21AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:04:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:04:38AM >> DINGFELDER?
9:04:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:04:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:41AM >> VIERA?
9:04:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
9:04:45AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WILL BE JOINING US MOMENTARILY.
9:04:51AM WHO DO I SEE UP AT THE PODIUM?
9:04:54AM CHIEF, ARE YOU HERE?
9:04:58AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING BOARD.
9:05:00AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY OF TAMPA.
9:05:03AM WE'RE HERE FOR OUR MONTHLY CRA MEETING.
9:05:05AM AND, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE AGENDA, THAT WE
9:05:08AM WILL KICK IT OFF WITH OUR CAC REPRESENTATIVE, MR. JOSEPH
9:05:12AM ROBINSON.
9:05:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:05:18AM MR. ROBINSON.
9:05:18AM >>JOSEPH ROBINSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:20AM GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
9:05:21AM CITY COUNCIL, I WANT TO THANK -- I GUESS IT'S MY TIME SINCE
9:05:28AM I AM THE CHAIR OF WEST TAMPA, CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
9:05:32AM I'M HERE TO REPORT ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA
9:05:35AM SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.
9:05:36AM BREAKING IT OUT, THE DIRECT CRA ACTIVITIES, THE WEST TAMPA
9:05:42AM CAC SUBCOMMITTEES CONTINUE TO WORK.
9:05:46AM THE COMMITTEE'S SPECIAL EVENTS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
9:05:49AM INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING.
9:05:50AM THESE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE THE KEY AREAS IDENTIFIED IN THE WEST
9:05:52AM TAMPA STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WERE ADOPTED BY THE CRA BOARD IN
9:05:58AM OCTOBER OF 2018.
9:05:59AM OUR HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE IS WORKING ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH
9:06:01AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HOUSING DEPARTMENT ON A HOUSING REHAB
9:06:05AM PROGRAM.
9:06:05AM THE OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM AND BUDGET WAS APPROVED BY
9:06:09AM THE CAC IN AUGUST, AND WILL COME TO THE CRA BOARD IN
9:06:12AM DECEMBER.
9:06:13AM THE WEST TAMPA CRA FACADE GRANT PROGRAM IS ACTIVE.
9:06:18AM STAFF IS CURRENTLY TAKING APPLICATIONS.
9:06:20AM THE WEST TAMPA FACADE PROGRAM WAS APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD
9:06:24AM IN APRIL OF 2019 AND WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE WEST TAMPA
9:06:28AM STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
9:06:30AM THERE ARE TWO NEW FACADE GRANT APPLICATIONS ON TODAY'S
9:06:33AM NOVEMBER CRA BOARD AGENDA.
9:06:36AM OUR SPECIAL EVENTS SUBCOMMITTEE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE
9:06:39AM APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL EVENTS IN WEST TAMPA CRA.
9:06:43AM THE PROGRAM WAS CREATED TO ENCOURAGE GROUPS TO HOLD SPECIAL
9:06:46AM EVENTS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA CRA, AND THE CRA BOARD APPROVED
9:06:50AM THE PROGRAM IN DECEMBER OF 2018.
9:06:52AM THE WEST TAMPA CAC APPROVED A BUDGET FOR THE INSTALLATION OF
9:06:58AM FOUR CAMERAS ALONG MAIN STREET AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF ROME,
9:07:02AM ALBANY, HOWARD, AND ARMENIA.
9:07:04AM THESE FOUR CAMERAS WILL BE INSTALLED, OPERATED, AND
9:07:09AM MONITORED BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:07:11AM THE PROGRAM CHANGED TO FUND THE INSTALLATION OF THE CAMERAS
9:07:18AM IN TODAY'S NOVEMBER CRA AGENDA.
9:07:21AM SO IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
9:07:22AM INSTALLATION OF THE CAMERA FALLS UNDER THE SAFETY
9:07:25AM INITIATIVES WITHIN OUR WEST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
9:07:28AM AND THE WEST TAMPA CAC AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO THANK THE
9:07:34AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENTS,
9:07:37AM INCLUDING FBI AGENCIES, FOR APPREHENDING A SUSPECT IN THE
9:07:43AM WEST TAMPA DOUBLE HOMICIDE SHOOTING ON OCTOBER 31st,
9:07:46AM HALLOWEEN.
9:07:47AM THIS BROUGHT GREAT RELIEF TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF CRIME.
9:07:51AM WE HAD AT LEAST FIVE SHOOTINGS IN WEST TAMPA.
9:07:54AM TWO OF THE DOUBLE HOMICIDE OCTOBER 31st.
9:07:57AM WE HAD AT LEAST ONE, TWO, THREE ON MAIN STREET AND THE
9:08:01AM ADJACENT HOWARD AVENUE.
9:08:02AM THIS IS WHY I'M REQUESTING THE CAMERAS AT THIS TIME.
9:08:05AM THE INDIRECT CRA ACTIVITIES, THE CITY OF TAMPA STORMWATER
9:08:09AM DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING THE CYPRESS STREET
9:08:12AM OUTFALL, THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF CONSTRUCTION OF A DUAL BOX
9:08:16AM CULVERT FROM EXISTING STUB AT CASS AND NORTH BOULEVARD TO
9:08:20AM ROME AVENUE.
9:08:21AM ANOTHER BOX CULVERT WILL CONNECT AT CASS AND ROME AVENUE AND
9:08:24AM RUN SOUTH TOWARDS KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO HELP ELIMINATE
9:08:27AM FLOODING IN THE AREA, ABOUT A 25, 30 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT,
9:08:30AM NOT CRA FUNDS, BUT FROM REGULAR CITY FUNDING AND
9:08:34AM S.W.F.W.M.D. GRANT MATCH.
9:08:35AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS COMPLETED THE DESIGN FOR PHASE TWO OF
9:08:38AM THE EAST-WEST GREEN SPINE CYCLE TRACK.
9:08:41AM THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF URBAN TRAIL CYCLE, TRACK ALONG CASS
9:08:45AM STREET TO CONNECT NORTH HYDE PARK FROM HOWARD TO THE
9:08:49AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
9:08:49AM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT WILL BE GIVING A REPORT TODAY,
9:08:54AM IF THE MEETING GOES THAT LONG, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY IS
9:08:57AM UNDERWAY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF RENAISSANCE AT WEST RIVER
9:08:59AM ON THE CORNER OF MAIN AND ROME AVENUE.
9:09:02AM THA HAS ALSO BROKE GROUND ON THE REHABILITATION OF THE MARY
9:09:05AM McLEOD BETHUNE HIGH-RISE PROJECT.
9:09:08AM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY RECEIVED FINANCING FOR A THIRD PROJECT
9:09:12AM THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS LOCATED ON THE
9:09:15AM CORNER OF MAIN AND OREGON.
9:09:18AM TAMPA ELECTRIC COMPANY HAS BEEN INSTALLING ADDITIONAL LED
9:09:22AM STREET LIGHTS AND IT'S ALMOST DONE.
9:09:26AM THEN THEY WILL FINISH THE CONVERSION EFFORT ON ALL LIGHTS IN
9:09:31AM WEST TAMPA AREA TO LEDs.
9:09:34AM THAT WILL BE ANOTHER SAFETY ISSUE AND ANOTHER ISSUE TO HELP
9:09:38AM REDUCE CRIME.
9:09:39AM AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WANT TO THANK NANCY TOWN, PRESIDENT
9:09:43AM AND CEO OF TECO, WHICH I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH HER ON
9:09:46AM HALLOWEEN, AND ALSO ONE OF THE CITY STAFFERS, JAN
9:09:50AM WASHINGTON.
9:09:51AM SHE'S SORT OF QUIET, BUT I'LL CALL HER NAME OUT TODAY.
9:09:55AM JAN WASHINGTON FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS HELPED US WITH THE
9:09:59AM LIGHTING ISSUE THE PAST TWO TO THREE YEARS AND GETTING THE
9:10:02AM LEDs.
9:10:02AM IT'S NOT EASY TO GET TECO TO MAKE A MOVE.
9:10:05AM BY HAVING THE LEDs IT WILL INCREASE SAFETY AND DECREASE
9:10:09AM CRIME IN THE WEST TAMPA CRA AREA.
9:10:11AM FINALLY, NOTABLE EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, THE WEST TAMPA
9:10:15AM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT SITS ON OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY
9:10:20AM COMMITTEE POSTED THE FLAVOR OF WEST TAMPA, SANGRIA AND
9:10:24AM CIGARS ON SUNDAY, THIS PAST SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 10th JULIAN
9:10:28AM B. LANE RIVERFRONT PARK.
9:10:31AM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING THERE BECAUSE I WAS
9:10:33AM ENGAGED TO GO OVER TO THE BUCS AND HELP THEM WIN, BE A ROOT
9:10:38AM MAN.
9:10:40AM THE BUCS TOLD ME THEY WANT THE ROOT MAN, SO THAT'S WHERE I
9:10:43AM WAS.
9:10:44AM THE OTHER THING IS METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES WILL BE HOSTING
9:10:47AM THEIR HOLIDAY FOOD DRIVE WENT WEST TAMPA CRA BOUNDARY AT
9:10:52AM 2609 WEST ROME AVENUE.
9:10:56AM OUR WEST TAMPA CAC REQUESTED THAT THE METROPOLITAN
9:10:59AM MINISTRIES LEAD THE -- LEAVE THE TENT UP IN 2021 SO THAT OUR
9:11:06AM COMMITTEE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO ALLOW US TO USE THE TENT
9:11:10AM FOR POTENTIAL SUPER BOWL EVENTS, POSSIBLY FUND-RAISING FOR
9:11:14AM OUR COMMUNITY.
9:11:15AM THEY AGREED TO WORK WITH US ON THIS EFFORT BECAUSE THERE ARE
9:11:18AM SOME ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC THERE.
9:11:20AM IF YOU GO BY, YOU'LL SEE THE TENT THERE.
9:11:23AM SO WE SAID LEAVE IT UP.
9:11:24AM WE'VE GOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH IT FOR 2021.
9:11:28AM THEY USUALLY TAKE IT DOWN IN JANUARY.
9:11:29AM WE SAID LEAVE IT UP.
9:11:31AM WE THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
9:11:32AM FINALLY, SUPER BOWL LV HOST COMMITTEE HELD A KICKOFF TO THE
9:11:37AM BUSINESS CONNECT PROGRAM AT THE BRYAN GLAZER JEWISH
9:11:40AM COMMUNITY CENTER WHICH IS IN THE CRA NOVEMBER THE 12th.
9:11:44AM JUST THIS WEEK.
9:11:45AM AND THIS PROGRAM WILL COMMIT WOMEN, MINORITY, AND LGBT
9:11:50AM BUSINESSES WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONTRACTS DURING THE SUPER
9:11:53AM BOWL DOUBLE NICKEL 55 KNOWN AS DERRICK BROOKS SUPER BOWL OF
9:11:59AM 2021.
9:12:00AM WITH THAT, THAT'S OUR REPORT FOR WEST TAMPA.
9:12:02AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:12:03AM ANY QUESTIONS?
9:12:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
9:12:06AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:12:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, JOE.
9:12:10AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SPECIFICALLY
9:12:15AM LEADING THE CAC.
9:12:17AM I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, AS YOU RECALL, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
9:12:21AM TO POP IN ON YOUR MEETING JUST FOR A FEW MINUTES BEFORE I
9:12:25AM HAD TO GET GOING AND GO ELSEWHERE.
9:12:27AM BUT I COULD TELL IT SEEMED LIKE A REALLY GOOD GROUP YOU ALL
9:12:31AM PUT TOGETHER.
9:12:32AM EVERYBODY WAS RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER.
9:12:36AM BRIGHT, FOCUSED GROUP, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN
9:12:41AM THAT REGARD.
9:12:43AM THAT'S ON THE POSITIVE NOTE.
9:12:44AM I ALSO HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THE OLD WEST TAMPA
9:12:49AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
9:12:52AM IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL GROUP.
9:12:54AM AND THOSE LADIES TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
9:12:59AM CRIME, AND I MENTIONED THIS TO MR. BENNETT RIGHT AFTER I WAS
9:13:05AM AT THAT MEETING, THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT TPD WAS
9:13:10AM ALL OVER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON,
9:13:14AM THINGS SEEMED TO BE BUBBLING UP RECENTLY.
9:13:17AM YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.
9:13:18AM I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE APPREHENDED SOME OF THESE BAD FOLKS.
9:13:23AM ANYWAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND MR. BENNETT IS SITTING HERE
9:13:28AM AS WELL, THAT TPD IS ALL OVER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE GET
9:13:33AM ON TOP OF THAT.
9:13:34AM >>JOSEPH ROBINSON: MR. DINGFELDER, JUST RECENTLY AS LAST
9:13:38AM WEEK, I WAS SITTING IN A BARBERSHOP.
9:13:41AM PERSON ROBBED A PERSON IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.
9:13:43AM RAN INTO THE LADY THAT DOES HAIR BRAIDS ACROSS THE STREET.
9:13:47AM SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
9:13:48AM POLICE CAME THERE, APPREHENDED HIM.
9:13:51AM TOOK HIM OUT OF THERE.
9:13:53AM EVERYBODY WAS QUITE.
9:13:55AM DIDN'T VIOLATE CIVIL RIGHTS AND EVERYTHING WENT ON
9:13:57AM HUNKY-DORY.
9:13:58AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT COME IN WEST TAMPA ANYTIME WE NEED
9:14:01AM IT.
9:14:02AM THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT SITS ON OUR ADVISORY
9:14:04AM COMMITTEE, BOBBY WILSON.
9:14:06AM HE'S LET US KNOW THAT.
9:14:09AM WE DON'T WANT TO OVER-POLICE TAMPA BUT WE DON'T WANT THE
9:14:13AM KILLING AND SHOOTING IN WEST TAMPA.
9:14:14AM I'VE BEEN UP AT 4:00 THIS MORNING TRACKING PEOPLE DOWN.
9:14:17AM WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
9:14:19AM IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, AND THAT IS WHY WE ASKED YOU TO
9:14:22AM APPROVE THE CAMERAS ON MAIN STREET.
9:14:24AM WE WANT TO BRING DEVELOPMENT THERE.
9:14:26AM ONE OF THE WAYS TO BRING DEVELOPMENT THERE IS MAKE IT SAFE.
9:14:28AM DOWN THE ROAD IF EVERYTHING IS HUNKY-DORY IN FIVE, TEN
9:14:31AM YEARS, CAMERAS CAN DISAPPEAR.
9:14:33AM BUT RIGHT NOW IT HELPS WITH EVIDENCE GATHERING.
9:14:36AM AS YOU WOULD KNOW, MR. GUDES, HOW POLICE WORK GOES.
9:14:38AM THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN REQUESTED AND OUR COMMITTEE STRONGLY
9:14:42AM VOTED TO SEND IT TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR THE
9:14:46AM FUNDING.
9:14:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROBINSON, HANG ON.
9:14:51AM AFTER ALL THE TIME YOU WERE ASKING FOR THESE LED LIGHTS, I'M
9:14:56AM GLAD THAT MR. DENIM FROM TECO WAS ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT AND
9:14:59AM GET IT DONE QUICKLY.
9:15:01AM I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THE TASTE
9:15:03AM OF WEST TAMPA.
9:15:04AM I KNOW THERE WERE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE THAT WENT TO THE
9:15:07AM FESTIVAL.
9:15:08AM IT WAS GREAT AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO GROW.
9:15:11AM >>JOSEPH ROBINSON: YES, SIR.
9:15:12AM ONE OTHER SMALL NOTE THAT I COULD USE YOUR HELP ON, CHAIR
9:15:16AM CITRO, COULD YOU GET F.D.O.T. TO GET THE HISTORIC SIGN ON
9:15:19AM THE INTERSTATE?
9:15:20AM THAT'S STILL AN ISSUE.
9:15:22AM HISTORIC SIGN, SAY WE'RE A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT LIKE
9:15:25AM THEY GOT IN YBOR.
9:15:27AM DOUBLE IT UP ON ANOTHER SIGN.
9:15:29AM MAKE IT BROWN.
9:15:30AM WE ARE A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF
9:15:32AM THE CRA.
9:15:33AM AND WE'RE BEING DISRESPECTED BY NOT HAVING THAT SIGN TELLING
9:15:38AM PEOPLE, HERE IT IS.
9:15:39AM GET OFF THE INTERSTATE, COME DOWN AND CHECK IT OUT.
9:15:41AM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE MARKETING AND PUSHING
9:15:44AM FORWARD WITH, BUT WE NEED THAT SIGN.
9:15:46AM WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT GOING ON NOW SIX YEARS.
9:15:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROBINSON, I'LL KEEP POKING THE BEAR.
9:15:53AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:15:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. ROBINSON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:15:57AM I THINK THE SECRETARY IS SITTING TWO SEATS BEHIND YOU.
9:16:00AM I THINK HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
9:16:01AM I'M SURE HE'S TELLING HIS PEOPLE --
9:16:07AM >>JOSEPH ROBINSON: IT'S NOT F.D.O.T. ISSUE.
9:16:09AM IT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS TO SUBMIT THE DOCUMENTATION TO
9:16:13AM F.D.O.T. TO GET IT DONE.
9:16:15AM AS FAR AS TRIPS, HOW MANY TRIPS THERE.
9:16:18AM THE CITY IS MISSING SUPPLYING INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY ARE
9:16:25AM BUSY AND MAY NOT BE STAFFED ENOUGH TO DO IT.
9:16:27AM BUT THAT'S WHAT IS HOLDING IT UP.
9:16:29AM IT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
9:16:29AM >> IT'S ON OUR END.
9:16:29AM >> IT'S ON OUR END.
9:16:31AM THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING OUR PEOPLE, MY REPRESENTATIVES TO ASK
9:16:33AM THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR YOU ALL TO MOVE IT TO A PRIORITY.
9:16:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.
9:16:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH OUT POKING THE BEAR.
9:16:46AM MR. BENNETT, IF YOU WANT TO BRIEFLY DO THAT.
9:16:50AM BOARD, I NEED TO CHANGE SOME AGENDA ITEMS.
9:16:53AM GO AHEAD, MR. BENNETT.
9:16:54AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WELL, FIRST, LET'S ADDRESS SIX YEARS FOR A
9:16:57AM SIGN IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
9:17:00AM GET A SIGN OUT THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
9:17:02AM WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT IMMEDIATELY.
9:17:04AM CHAIRMAN, DID YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDER?
9:17:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SPEAKING TO F.D.O.T., THEIR
9:17:11AM PowerPoint PRESENTATION IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY.
9:17:15AM SO WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN MOVE
9:17:20AM F.D.O.T.'S REPORT UP TO AFTER WE GET DONE WITH MR. TERRITO,
9:17:25AM NEXT.
9:17:26AM THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD?
9:17:27AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE UP F.D.O.T. TO THE NEXT AGENDA
9:17:32AM ITEM.
9:17:33AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:17:34AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:17:35AM THANK YOU.
9:17:36AM >>THE CLERK: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHO IS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION?
9:17:38AM GUDES.
9:17:39AM THANK YOU.
9:17:40AM AND THE SECOND?
9:17:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MANISCALCO.
9:17:44AM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
9:17:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE SECOND, CHIEF.
9:17:47AM MR. TERRITO, COULD YOU COME UP TO THE LECTERN?
9:17:50AM GENTLEMEN -- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE AND LADIES
9:17:56AM AND GENTLEMEN ON THE TV VIEWING, SAL, IS TOMORROW YOUR LAST
9:18:00AM DAY WITH US?
9:18:01AM >>SAL TERRITO: IT IS MY LAST DAY WITH YOU, YES.
9:18:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAL, I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR 16-PLUS YEARS.
9:18:10AM I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
9:18:13AM I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME YOUR INSIDE KNOWLEDGE FOR THE CITY
9:18:17AM OF TAMPA, AND YOU WILL BE SORELY MISSED.
9:18:21AM PLEASE LET US KNOW WHERE YOU GO.
9:18:24AM PLEASE COME BACK AND VISIT US.
9:18:25AM >>SAL TERRITO: I WILL DO THAT.
9:18:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WHO WOULD
9:18:28AM LIKE TO SPEAK.
9:18:29AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:18:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. TERRITO, IT WAS A PLEASURE MEETING YOU
9:18:33AM FOR THE FIRST TIME DURING THE CHARTER REVIEW.
9:18:36AM I THOUGHT YOU WERE UPSTANDING ATTORNEY WHO KEPT THE BALANCE
9:18:43AM OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH WHEN WE
9:18:46AM ASKED QUESTIONS ON HOW THE CITY SHOULD OPERATE.
9:18:49AM SINCE THAT TIME, YOU ALWAYS STILL TRY TO KEEP A BALANCE TO
9:18:54AM BE FAIR AND MAKE SURE THAT BOTH POWERS ARE EQUAL.
9:18:59AM I APPRECIATE YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
9:19:03AM I TELL PEOPLE, ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:19:07AM ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO SAY
9:19:10AM I'M RIDER AND TO JUST BE ABLE TO GET UP AND GO AND DO
9:19:14AM WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU GET READY.
9:19:17AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
9:19:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY.
9:19:21AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:19:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:19:23AM YES, SAL, WE'LL CERTAINLY MISS YOU.
9:19:25AM YOU KNOW MY SENTIMENTS ABOUT YOU.
9:19:27AM I THINK YOU'RE A GOOD GUY.
9:19:29AM A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE IN CITY COUNCIL AND PUBLIC
9:19:33AM OFFICE, YOUR PERSONAL LIFE INTERTWINES WITH YOUR PUBLIC
9:19:36AM DUTIES.
9:19:37AM WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT BOTH OF THEM.
9:19:39AM I'VE LEARNED THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST A FINE LAWYER BUT ALSO A
9:19:42AM VERY GOOD HUMAN BEING.
9:19:43AM I MEAN THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT A LOT OF PERSONAL
9:19:46AM THINGS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:19:48AM I WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
9:19:49AM ALSO, AS AN ATTORNEY MYSELF, YOU'RE A GOOD ATTORNEY AND
9:19:52AM YOU'RE A GOOD INDIVIDUAL AND YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE A GREAT JOB.
9:19:55AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND I MEAN THAT.
9:19:57AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU.
9:19:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SAL, I KNOW YOUR NAME IS SALVATORE, BUT
9:20:03AM CALL YOU SAL.
9:20:04AM YOU'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE YOU ALWAYS
9:20:08AM SAID THE FACTS AND YOU BACKED UP THE FACTS.
9:20:10AM FOR INSTANCE, YOU ALWAYS SAID YOU WERE THE ATTORNEY FOR THE
9:20:12AM GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, NOT FOR THE LEGISLATURE AND
9:20:15AM NOT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:20:17AM YOU MADE IT CLEAR SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY WHO YOU BELIEVE
9:20:21AM HAS THE RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING AND RIGHT NOT TO DO SOMETHING.
9:20:24AM AND THAT TAKES COURAGE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES
9:20:27AM YOU FEEL -- NOT YOU, THE AURA OF POWER CHANGES FROM TIME TO
9:20:31AM TIME.
9:20:32AM AND YOU NEVER LET THAT BOTHER YOU.
9:20:34AM I THINK YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH MANY, MANY ADMINISTRATIONS,
9:20:36AM MAYBE MORE THAN I HAVE.
9:20:37AM I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:20:39AM YOUR SINCERITY, YOUR STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS AND YOUR
9:20:42AM APPLICATION OF THE LAW AT ALL TIMES.
9:20:45AM I APPRECIATE KNOWING YOU.
9:20:46AM YOU ARE A GREAT GUY.
9:20:47AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:20:48AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU.
9:20:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY DECADES
9:20:55AM OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:20:56AM WE'VE HAD SOME FUN CONVERSATIONS IN THE BACK.
9:20:58AM I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE RELATED TO ANOTHER SAL THAT I KNEW
9:21:00AM GROWING UP.
9:21:01AM IT'S A SMALL WORLD, BUT THAT'S TAMPA.
9:21:03AM EVERYONE IS USUALLY RELATED.
9:21:05AM BUT WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:21:07AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL, ACCESSIBLE, AND AS
9:21:10AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, YOU GIVE THE FACTS.
9:21:13AM YOU STAND FOR WHAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S IT.
9:21:17AM WE'LL MISS YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR LONGTIME SERVICE.
9:21:20AM THANK YOU.
9:21:20AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU.
9:21:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:21:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAL, THEY SAY IN SPORTS, LIKE TENNIS AND
9:21:29AM ALL SPORTS THAT YOU RISE TO THE LEVEL OF YOUR OPPONENT.
9:21:36AM FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU AND I HAVE BUTT HEADS RIGHT HERE.
9:21:41AM BUT I KNOW THAT IF I'M GOING TO TRY AND MAKE MY POINT THAT I
9:21:45AM BETTER BRING MY "A" GAME WHEN YOU AND I ARE BUTTING HEADS
9:21:49AM BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS ON TOP OF IT.
9:21:51AM YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
9:21:52AM VERY OFTEN I END UP AGREEING WITH YOU.
9:21:55AM I'LL MISS YOU.
9:21:59AM I'LL MISS YOU.
9:22:00AM I'LL MISS YOUR INTELLECT.
9:22:04AM I'LL MISS YOUR DEVOTION AND LOYALTY TO THE CITY AND YOU'RE A
9:22:08AM GOOD MAN.
9:22:09AM BEST OF LUCK DOWN THE ROAD TO YOU AND YOUR WIFE.
9:22:15AM I WISH I HAD ASKED THE CLERK IN ADVANCE OR THE HISTORIAN OF
9:22:22AM THE CITY HOW MANY FOLKS HAVE BEEN CITY ATTORNEY IN THE CITY.
9:22:27AM I'LL GUESS PROBABLY LESS THAN 20, 25 OVER A HUNDRED-PLUS
9:22:31AM YEARS.
9:22:33AM AND YOU PERFORMED ADMIRABLY DURING YOUR TIME NOT ONLY AS
9:22:38AM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AND ALL THE CAPACITIES YOU SERVED
9:22:40AM BUT ALSO AS CITY ATTORNEY, YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD.
9:22:43AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:22:44AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:22:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND
9:22:48AM YOUR LONGTIME DEDICATION TO THE CITY.
9:22:50AM I HOPE YOU'LL WRITE A BOOK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT
9:22:53AM ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE BECAUSE YOU ARE A WALKING HISTORY
9:22:56AM BOOK OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CITY.
9:22:58AM THANK YOU.
9:22:58AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU.
9:22:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAL, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR THE MANY YEARS
9:23:02AM AND THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME.
9:23:03AM I'M GOING TO WARN YOU, BE PREPARED FOR ME TO BE CALLING YOU
9:23:07AM FOR YOUR ADVICE IN THE FUTURE.
9:23:09AM >>SAL TERRITO: I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY PHONE NUMBER.
9:23:10AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:23:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAL, I APPLAUD YOU.
9:23:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:18AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:19AM THANK YOU.
9:23:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE
9:23:28AM SOMETHING TO SAY TO US.
9:23:28AM >>SAL TERRITO: I'VE ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE OF IT.
9:23:31AM BEEN HERE ON AND OFF FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS, BUT NOT QUITE.
9:23:35AM I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH MANY, MANY CITY
9:23:37AM COUNCILS, EIGHT DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS.
9:23:39AM SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
9:23:41AM LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THERE'S A TIME TO MOVE ON AND THIS IS
9:23:45AM MY PARTICULAR TIME BUT I THANK YOU FOR THIS.
9:23:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
9:23:48AM >>SAL TERRITO: THANK YOU.
9:23:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ITEM 16, WHICH IS THE
9:23:53AM F.D.O.T. REPORT.
9:23:57AM PLEASE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP BECAUSE THE PowerPoint
9:23:59AM PRESENTATION IS NOT QUITE WORKING, UNLESS WE DO HAVE IT
9:24:04AM HERE.
9:24:08AM >> WE HAD AN EMBEDDED VIDEO.
9:24:10AM WE WORKED WITH THE I.T. DEPARTMENT.
9:24:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
9:24:13AM SO THE VIDEO IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE BUT YOU STILL HAVE
9:24:16AM YOUR PowerPoint.
9:24:17AM PLEASE PROCEED.
9:24:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:24:24AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
9:24:27AM THIS IS THE TAMPA BAY NEXT.
9:24:28AM WE'RE DOING AN UPDATE OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF.
9:24:31AM A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE FROM OUR
9:24:34AM PASSIONATE CONVERSATION LAST TIME.
9:24:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I PLEASE ASK FOR YOUR NAME?
9:24:38AM >>MARSHALL HAMPTON: MARSHALL HAMPTON FROM THE FLORIDA
9:24:40AM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DISTRICT 7.
9:24:42AM I-275 NORTH OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA PROJECT.
9:24:48AM IT'S FUNDED FOR FISCAL YEAR '21 ALL THE WAY UP TO
9:24:52AM HILLSBOROUGH.
9:24:52AM NORTH OF THE INTERCHANGE UP TO HILLSBOROUGH, THAT'S WHERE
9:24:55AM WE'RE PUTTING ADDITIONAL GENERAL PURPOSE LANE, ALSO IN HIS
9:25:00AM BARRIERS.
9:25:00AM WE ARE WORKING ON THE SCIS FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL
9:25:05AM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
9:25:06AM THAT DOCUMENT IS STILL UNDERWAY.
9:25:08AM WE ARE IN TALKS WITH FHWA UNDER THEIR REVIEW.
9:25:12AM THEY HAVE IT UNDER THEIR LEGAL REVIEW NOW.
9:25:14AM WE'RE LOOKING TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING EARLY NEXT YEAR.
9:25:17AM AS YOU FOUND OUT LAST MONTH, THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED THAT WE
9:25:22AM HAVE FUNDING FOR THE WESTSHORE AREA INTERCHANGE PROJECT.
9:25:25AM $1.4 BILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
9:25:30AM THAT WAS GREAT NEWS.
9:25:33AM THIS IS WHAT THE INTERCHANGE LOOKS LIKE AT STATE ROAD 60
9:25:37AM NEAR THE WESTSHORE AREA MALL.
9:25:39AM IT'S A FOUR-LEVEL INTERCHANGE WITH EXPRESS LANES GOING
9:25:42AM THROUGH FROM HOWARD FRANKLAND TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND OUT TO
9:25:45AM THE VETERANS.
9:25:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY.
9:25:51AM I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
9:25:52AM WILL THIS STOP ME IF I MAKE THE WRONG CONNECTION COMING OUT
9:25:55AM OF THE AIRPORT FROM GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS HOWARD
9:25:57AM FRANKLAND AND HAVING TO MAKE A U-TURN?
9:26:00AM >>MARSHALL HAMPTON: WE WILL HAVE MANY OPTIONS FOR YOU TO GET
9:26:02AM TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:26:03AM YES, SIR.
9:26:04AM WE'LL HAVE AN EXPRESS LANE DIRECT CONNECT TO HIMES AVENUE,
9:26:09AM SO YOU CAN GET ON OR OFF THE SYSTEM.
9:26:12AM SO THIS IS GOING NORTHBOUND 275 OR EASTBOUND. NOW YOU'RE
9:26:17AM CONNECTING FROM HIMES GOING SOUTHBOUND TOWARDS WESTSHORE
9:26:21AM AREA.
9:26:21AM IF YOU WERE TRAVELING ON 275, YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME ACCESS
9:26:28AM WHERE YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN
9:26:30AM INTERCHANGE OR GO INTO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:26:32AM BUT ALSO, IF YOU ARE IN THE EXPRESS LANE SYSTEM, YOU CAN
9:26:37AM EXIT OUT OF IT IN ORDER TO GET TO CARRY THROUGH TO 275 OR TO
9:26:41AM I-4 CONNECTION.
9:26:43AM ONE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE HAVE A DIRECT CONNECT NOW TO
9:26:50AM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:26:51AM STAY IN THE EXPRESS LANE SYSTEM FROM THE AIRPORT OR FROM
9:26:56AM PINELLAS COUNTY AND GO STRAIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:26:58AM THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR RAPID BUS TRANSIT THAT WE'RE WORKING
9:27:01AM ON, PREMIUM TRANSIT.
9:27:03AM GOING IN THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION, YOU CAN STILL CARRY.
9:27:10AM IT IS THE SAME MOVEMENT.
9:27:11AM YOU'LL HAVE ACTUALLY A COUPLE MORE LANES.
9:27:13AM WE HAVE SOME WEAVING CONDITIONS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK
9:27:16AM THROUGH.
9:27:17AM COMING IN FROM OR COMING ON TO THE SYSTEM FROM DOWNTOWN
9:27:21AM TAMPA, IT IS THE SAME ACCESS AS WELL.
9:27:23AM IF YOU WANT TO JUMP INTO THE EXPRESS LANE SYSTEM, YOU WILL
9:27:29AM RIGHT AFTER THE ASHLEY ON-RAMP.
9:27:31AM AND THEN FROM ASHLEY -- ACTUALLY, YOU WILL HAVE A DIRECT
9:27:39AM CONNECT ACCESS INTO THE EXPRESS LANE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO
9:27:41AM REMOVE -- WEAVE THROUGH TRAFFIC.
9:27:44AM YOU CAN HOP ON THE BRIDGE TO GET OVER TO THE EXPRESS LANE
9:27:47AM SYSTEM.
9:27:48AM FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA INTERCHANGE, ONE CHANGE FROM THE LAST
9:27:52AM TIME WE SPOKE IS THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE FLORIBRASKA EXIT
9:27:56AM OPEN.
9:27:56AM WE HEARD THE COMMUNITY AND WE FIND THAT IN THE SHORT-TERM
9:28:01AM IT'S VIABLE TO KEEP IT OPEN.
9:28:02AM WE'RE KEEPING THE FLORIBRASKA ON-RAMP ON 275 NORTHBOUND AND
9:28:07AM THE OFF-RAMP ON 275 SOUTHBOUND OPEN.
9:28:10AM AND THEN WE'RE MOVING TO 21st, 22nd STREET EXIT TO
9:28:15AM 14th, 15th.
9:28:16AM THAT WAY PEOPLE HAVE MORE ACCESS OR MORE ABILITIES TO GO
9:28:21AM EITHER TO EAST TAMPA, GO TO YBOR CITY, OR CARRY OVER TO
9:28:23AM 21st, 22nd.
9:28:26AM THIS IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE OUR MODELING SHOWS, EVEN IF WE
9:28:29AM KEPT THE 21st, 22nd STREET EXIT OPEN, IT IS STILL THE
9:28:33AM SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GOING TO IT.
9:28:35AM PREDICTING 29,000 CARS IN A DAY GOING TO 21st, 22nd.
9:28:39AM PUSHING BACK TO 14, 15, YOU'LL HELP DISPERSE THE TRAFFIC
9:28:43AM MORE.
9:28:43AM FOR THE WESTBOUND, FLORIBRASKA EXIT OPEN.
9:28:49AM WE ARE WIDENING THE RAMP FROM ONE LANE TO TWO LANE.
9:28:53AM AND THEN IF YOU STAY IN THE LEFT-MOST LANE, YOU CAN CARRY
9:28:55AM THAT ALL THE WAY UP TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY -- OR
9:28:57AM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
9:28:58AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO MERGE OVER.
9:28:59AM IF YOU STAY IN THE RIGHT-HAND LANE, YOU HAVE TO EXIT TO MLK.
9:29:03AM IMPROVING WEAVE CONDITIONS.
9:29:06AM NOW FOR THE WESTBOUND I-4 TO SOUTHBOUND 275, WE'RE WIDENING
9:29:11AM THE SHOULDERS AND MOVING THE EXIT, SHIFTING THE EXIT DOWN
9:29:15AM STREAM SO YOU DON'T HAVE THREE CHOICES AT THE SAME TIME.
9:29:17AM IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
9:29:22AM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
9:29:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:29:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:29:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LISTENING
9:29:28AM TO THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON FLORIBRASKA.
9:29:31AM I'M HEARING A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM YBOR AND ALSO
9:29:35AM EAST TAMPA ON THE CHANGE IN THE EXITS ON I-4 AROUND THAT
9:29:38AM AREA.
9:29:39AM IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF SWITCHING IT BACK?
9:29:43AM >>MARSHALL HAMPTON: OUR PLAN IS TO STICK TO THE 14, 15 EXIT.
9:29:47AM IF THE FEEDBACK IS NEGATIVE TO 21st, 22nd, WE JUST --
9:29:52AM >> I'M GOING TO JOIN IN.
9:29:53AM I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS IN EAST TAMPA.
9:29:56AM DAVID GWYNN, F.D.O.T. DISTRICT SECRETARY.
9:30:02AM IT'S REALLY IN HOW WE EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
9:30:04AM WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANYTHING FROM 21st AND 22nd.
9:30:07AM THE INTERCHANGE WILL REMAIN.
9:30:09AM YOU'LL HAVE FULL ACCESS TO 21st, 22nd LIKE YOU DO TODAY.
9:30:13AM WHEN I MET OUT AND MET WITH A NUMBER OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
9:30:16AM COMMUNITY IN EAST TAMPA, INCLUDING STATE REPRESENTATIVE
9:30:18AM HART.
9:30:18AM WE MET WITH OTHER MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE
9:30:21AM THINGS WE HEARD WAS IN THE PAST, THEY FELT AS IF ACCESS HAD
9:30:24AM BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT HAD BEEN WHEN
9:30:29AM THE CONNECTOR CAME IN, WHEN WE CLOSED 40th, AND WHAT THEY
9:30:32AM WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS NOT LOSE ACCESS, IN FACT, THEY WOULD
9:30:35AM LIKE, IF THEY COULD GAIN ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS, THAT
9:30:38AM WOULD HELP PERHAPS DRAW BUSINESSES TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:30:41AM WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IF YOU PICTURE HOW 21st AND 22nd
9:30:45AM INTERCHANGE IS TODAY, THREE OF THE FOUR EXIT AND ENTRANCE
9:30:49AM RAMPS WILL REMAIN EXACTLY THE SAME.
9:30:50AM THE ONES THAT ARE, IF YOU WANT TO GET ON TO GO EASTBOUND OR
9:30:53AM WESTBOUND ON I-4, 21st, 22nd, YOU CAN.
9:30:58AM IF YOU WANT TO COME WESTBOUND AND GET OFF AT 21st AND
9:31:02AM 22nd, YOU STILL WILL BE ABLE TO.
9:31:04AM RIGHT NOW, IF YOU COME DOWN 275 AND YOU WANT TO GET OFF, IF
9:31:08AM YOU COME DOWN 275 TO GO EAST ON I-4 AND YOU WANT TO GET OFF
9:31:11AM AT 21st, 22nd, YOU HAVE TO DIVE ACROSS ALL THOSE LANES.
9:31:16AM WE'RE BRINGING THE LANES AND A BRIDGE TO PUT IT TO THE
9:31:19AM OUTSIDE AND THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PUTTING THE FIRST
9:31:22AM ACCESS POINT INTO EAST TAMPA AND YBOR CITY AT 14th,
9:31:25AM 15th.
9:31:26AM THEN WE'RE CONSTRUCTING A TWO-LANE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT GOES
9:31:30AM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 21st, 22nd.
9:31:32AM YOU'LL NOT ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO 21st, 22nd, YOU'LL ALSO
9:31:37AM HAVE ACCESS TO 14th AND 15th.
9:31:39AM THAT ALONG WITH KEEPING THE FLORIBRASKA RAMPS OPEN IS GOING
9:31:44AM TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:31:47AM SO REALLY, I FELT LIKE IT'S REALLY ENHANCING ACCESS OVERALL.
9:31:52AM SOME FOLKS I THINK -- WE MAY NOT HAVE EXPLAINED IT AS WELL
9:31:56AM IN THE BEGINNING, THOUGHT WE WERE REMOVING THE 21st AND
9:31:59AM 22nd STREET AND MOVING TO 14th, 15th.
9:32:02AM NOT AT ALL.
9:32:03AM WE'RE LEAVING 21st, 22nd.
9:32:06AM WE'RE ADDING AN ACCESS POINT AT 14 AND 15, IF THAT MAKES
9:32:09AM SENSE.
9:32:10AM SO FAR -- IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM EAST TAMPA THAT WANTED TO
9:32:16AM TALK TO ME ABOUT CONCERNS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO.
9:32:18AM WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY FOLKS AS POSSIBLE TO SEE IF
9:32:22AM THAT WAS AN ACCEPTABLE OPTION.
9:32:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:32:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON THAT?
9:32:28AM GO AHEAD.
9:32:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SECRETARY, LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR
9:32:33AM LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY IN REFERENCE TO FLORIBRASKA.
9:32:36AM WE HAD A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION MEETING IN THE LIBRARY.
9:32:38AM I THINK AFTER THAT MEETING, SOME OTHER POINTS WERE DISCUSSED
9:32:42AM WITH A FEW FOLKS AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.
9:32:44AM I COMMEND YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR WORKING ON THAT PROJECT.
9:32:47AM I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH 21st, 22nd, PEOPLE AREN'T
9:32:50AM EDUCATED ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IN THE BEGINNING.
9:32:52AM I THINK NOW THAT'S COMING ABROAD NOW.
9:32:55AM I THINK, LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, WE NEED TO HAVE A SCHEMATIC
9:32:59AM DIAGRAM SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND PUT IT IN MOTION SO
9:33:02AM WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT YOU'RE NOT TAKING THAT ACCESS
9:33:05AM POINT.
9:33:05AM WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO
9:33:09AM THRIVE.
9:33:09AM I'M GLAD YOU'RE SAYING THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
9:33:13AM WERE SAYING.
9:33:13AM I ALWAYS TELL YOU, YOU HAVE TO DIAGRAM IT OUT IN REAL-TIME
9:33:17AM SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
9:33:20AM I THINK IF YOU DO THAT, THE COMMUNITY WILL UNDERSTAND MORE,
9:33:22AM AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE
9:33:25AM DON'T DEPRIVE THE COMMUNITIES, BUSINESS COMMUNITIES FROM
9:33:28AM ACCESS.
9:33:28AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, SIR.
9:33:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:33:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:33:33AM I ALSO WANT TO REMARK ON SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AT THE MPO
9:33:36AM RECENTLY WHEN COMMISSIONER OVERMAN MOTIONED TO HAVE
9:33:41AM NEGOTIATIONS WITH CSX AND THE CSX RAIL PLACED ON OUR
9:33:45AM PRIORITY LIST FOR THE LRTP, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
9:33:50AM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE AWARE
9:33:52AM OF, THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
9:33:54AM THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE -- YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER, MR. GWYNN,
9:33:57AM WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING AT THE LAST TIF HEARING, LISTEN, YOU
9:34:02AM ALL WANT MASS TRANSIT, LET'S PUT IT ON THE LIST.
9:34:05AM THE MPO LISTENED.
9:34:08AM COMMISSIONER OVERMAN, OUR FRIEND WHO IS DOING SUCH A GREAT
9:34:10AM JOB, SPOKE UP ON IT, AND IT UNANIMOUSLY PASSED.
9:34:13AM SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY BIG DEAL IN MY OPINION
9:34:17AM AND SOMETHING THAT WILL AFFECT NOT ONLY THE CRA AREAS, BUT
9:34:20AM ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND REGIONALLY AS WELL THAT WAS
9:34:23AM DISCUSSED AT LENGTH IN THE TMA MEETING I THINK IT WAS LAST
9:34:27AM FRIDAY.
9:34:27AM SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT AS WELL ON OUR PRIORITY
9:34:30AM RECOMMENDED FORMAL LIST, AND CALL ME NAIVE, BUT I'M
9:34:34AM OPTIMISTIC.
9:34:35AM I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY BIG
9:34:39AM DEAL, I THINK, THAT WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD AND I HAVE A GOOD
9:34:42AM FEELING WE'RE ALL DOING IT TOGETHER.
9:34:44AM THANK YOU.
9:34:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:34:47AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:34:48AM GENTLEMEN, THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.
9:34:53AM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
9:34:55AM IN REGARD TO COMING DOWN SOUTH 275 AND THEN GETTING OFF IN
9:34:59AM YBOR, THAT'S GREAT.
9:35:01AM IT JUST SO HAPPENED LIKE TWO NIGHTS AGO, I WAS DOING THAT
9:35:04AM WITH MY WIFE AND WE WERE COMING DOWN 275 AND I FORGOT HOW
9:35:08AM QUICKLY IT CAME OVER.
9:35:09AM THE NEXT THING I KNOW, I'M DARTING ACROSS THREE LANES OF
9:35:12AM TRAFFIC TO GET OFF AT 21st STREET OVER THERE, AND SHE'S
9:35:16AM LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING, YOU CRAZY DRIVER?"
9:35:21AM ANYWAYS, WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.
9:35:23AM I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IMPROVEMENT.
9:35:26AM AS I LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THESE, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, I MEAN,
9:35:30AM NOTHING IS PERFECT, AND WE'RE CHASING THE TRAIN AFTER 40, 50
9:35:35AM YEARS OF INTERSTATE BUILDING, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THESE
9:35:38AM TWEAKS ARE REALLY GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:35:41AM I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
9:35:46AM WHEN I GET ON AT ARMENIA AND I NEED TO GO NORTH ON 275, I DO
9:35:51AM HAVE TO DART -- GET ACROSS SEVERAL LANES OF TRAFFIC TO MAKE
9:35:54AM SURE THAT BY THE TIME I HIT DOWNTOWN I'M IN ONE OF THE TWO
9:35:58AM LEFT LANES.
9:35:59AM IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE AT ALL?
9:36:02AM >> NO, SIR.
9:36:02AM I THINK WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO MAKE MORE EXTENSIVE CHANGES TO
9:36:06AM THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE.
9:36:08AM WE TRY TO GET THE IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE RIVER, THE EXPRESS
9:36:13AM LANES IN AND OUT OF TOWN.
9:36:14AM AND THAT PRIMARILY WAS TO KEEP THE NUMBER OF PARCELS,
9:36:19AM PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD IMPACT DOWN.
9:36:23AM IT'S NOT PERFECT.
9:36:24AM THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE IS NOT GOING TO BE OPERATING
9:36:27AM PERFECTLY, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE WORKING
9:36:29AM WITH THE COMMUNITY BETWEEN IMPACTS TO TRAFFIC AND IMPACTS TO
9:36:35AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:36:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE STILL CALL IT MALFUNCTION
9:36:39AM JUNCTION?
9:36:40AM >> I DON'T THINK SO I CAN STOP THAT.
9:36:42AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:36:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LASTLY, ON A VERY SERIOUS NOTE, I'M NOT
9:36:45AM ON THE MPO.
9:36:47AM I WOULD LIKE TO BE AGAIN SOMEDAY, I'VE BEEN IN OTHER CITIES
9:36:52AM WITH THE EXPRESS LANES.
9:36:54AM I THINK THEY SEEM TO WORK OKAY.
9:36:59AM I THINK YOU ALL ARE BUILDING -- IN ORLANDO, I THINK YOU ALL
9:37:03AM ARE BUILDING THEM UP THERE JUST TO ZIP TRAFFIC THROUGH, SLOW
9:37:06AM PROCESS TO BUILD THEM, BUT I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THERE.
9:37:09AM BUT WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR -- WHAT I HEARD ABOUT IN THE PAST WAS
9:37:14AM TOLLS.
9:37:16AM ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT EXPRESS LANES OR ARE THERE TOLLS
9:37:20AM HIDDEN IN THERE?
9:37:22AM IF THERE IS, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION.
9:37:25AM >> WELL, TWO THINGS I GUESS.
9:37:27AM ONE, THE CONCEPT WE'VE HAD ALL ALONG IS THAT THE EXPRESS
9:37:30AM LANES WOULD BE DYNAMICALLY TOLLED.
9:37:32AM IT'S IN EVERY MPO DOCUMENT.
9:37:34AM IT'S BEEN IN EVERY PRESENTATION WE'VE DONE FOR PROBABLY
9:37:37AM CLOSE TO TEN YEARS.
9:37:41AM BUT THE REASON TO DO DYNAMIC TOLLING IS NOT TO RAISE
9:37:45AM REVENUE.
9:37:45AM IT'S NOT A POINT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE MONEY AND USE THAT AS
9:37:49AM A REASON.
9:37:50AM THE REASON THAT WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE WE AGREE WITH --
9:37:53AM THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST MAKE
9:37:56AM ALL THE LANES FREE, YOU'RE GOING TO INDUCE MORE DEMAND AND
9:37:59AM EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE CONGESTED.
9:38:00AM WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE DYNAMIC TOLLING IS A TOOL THAT CAN
9:38:05AM BE USED TO MANAGE CONGESTION DURING CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME.
9:38:09AM SO IN THE MORNING PEAK HOUR, THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR, WHEN
9:38:12AM WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE OUR MOST CONGESTED TIMES, USING
9:38:15AM DYNAMIC TOLLING PROVIDES FOR A CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CONGESTED
9:38:20AM ENVIRONMENT TO ALLOW FOR VEHICLES TO GO AT SPEEDS THAT ARE
9:38:23AM RELIABLE TRAVEL TIME.
9:38:25AM NOW, SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO
9:38:28AM USE THAT ARE GOING TO JUMP IN THOSE LANES.
9:38:30AM WELL, TWO THINGS, ONE, THOSE PEOPLE WERE JUMPING OUT OF THE
9:38:33AM OTHER LANES SO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE OTHER GENERAL
9:38:36AM PURPOSE LANES IS ONE.
9:38:37AM SECONDLY, THAT ALSO CAN BE USED AS AN EXPRESS BUS CORRIDOR.
9:38:43AM AND THAT IS EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL RIGHT NOW IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
9:38:46AM THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE RUNNING ON THE EXPRESS
9:38:50AM BUSES IN SOUTH FLORIDA, ACTUALLY HAVE MORE THAN ACTUALLY
9:38:54AM THAN USE SUN RAIL IN ORLANDO.
9:38:55AM THAT'S HOW SUCCESSFUL IT'S BEEN.
9:38:57AM IN FACT, THE THING THAT'S CONSTRAINED THEM IS THEY DIDN'T
9:39:01AM HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AT THE PARK-AND-RIDE LOTS OR MORE PEOPLE
9:39:03AM WOULD USE IT.
9:39:05AM NOW THEY ARE EXPANDING THEIR PARKING IN THE AREAS.
9:39:07AM IT PROVIDES THAT CONGESTED RELIEF WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.
9:39:10AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTED VOLUMES, BASED ON THE LAND USES
9:39:14AM THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THAT ARE IN THE MODELS, THAT WE
9:39:16AM DON'T CREATE THE MODELS, LAND USE IS NOT D.O.T.
9:39:19AM THAT'S DONE BY THE LOCALS.
9:39:21AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST 50% MORE TRAFFIC ON OUR ROADS
9:39:24AM WITHIN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
9:39:26AM 50% MORE THAN WE HAVE TODAY.
9:39:28AM IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED.
9:39:29AM SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CORRIDOR WITHIN.
9:39:32AM NOW, WHAT I WILL SAY -- IF I COULD MENTION REAL QUICKLY ON
9:39:39AM THE TOLLING SIDE, WE CAN CHANGE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE
9:39:42AM FUTURE IF IT MAKES SENSE.
9:39:43AM THERE MAY BE A TIME WHERE WE SAY THAT THE DYNAMIC TOLLING IS
9:39:46AM NOT THE RIGHT TOOL.
9:39:48AM IT MAY BE THAT WE WANT TO SAY WE'LL USE JUST A FIXED TOLL OR
9:39:52AM NO TOLL OR WE MAY WANT TO SAY USE AT SOME POINT IN THE
9:39:55AM FUTURE, MAYBE AUTONOMOUS OR CONNECTED VEHICLES USE THOSE
9:39:58AM LANES SO WE CAN REALLY INCREASE CAPACITY IF ALL THE VEHICLES
9:40:00AM IN THERE ARE CONNECTED.
9:40:02AM THERE'S LOTS OF TOOLS.
9:40:03AM THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.
9:40:08AM I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, THOUGH, WE DIDN'T HIDE
9:40:10AM ANYTHING.
9:40:11AM THERE WAS NEVER ANY HIDDEN AGENDA TO SAY AND WE SPRUNG TOLLS
9:40:14AM OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE.
9:40:15AM THIS WAS PRESENTED FOR YEARS.
9:40:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE HIDING
9:40:19AM IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PRESENTATION.
9:40:23AM >> WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ADD THOSE IN THE FUTURE.
9:40:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF IT'S THERE, IT'S THERE.
9:40:29AM AT LEAST THE COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT, AND WE SHOULD
9:40:31AM TALK ABOUT IT.
9:40:32AM I DO RECALL WHEN I WAS ON THE MPO PROBABLY 14, 15 YEARS AGO
9:40:36AM THAT I SPOKE VERY VOCALLY AGAINST THE, AS THEY CALL THEM,
9:40:41AM LEXUS LANES AND TOLLING.
9:40:43AM I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS WANT TO MOVE VEHICLES, AND YOU SEE
9:40:48AM THIS AS A TOOL.
9:40:49AM WELL, IF YOU GAVE OUT, LET'S SAY TEN TOKENS IN THE BEGINNING
9:40:52AM OF THE MONTH TO EVERYBODY WHO'S OUT THERE DRIVING, SO
9:40:54AM EVERYBODY STARTS ON THE SAME FOOTING.
9:40:56AM AND EVERYBODY CAN DECIDE WHEN THEY WANT TO USE THOSE TEN
9:40:59AM TOKENS, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO CERTAIN DAYS I WANT TO GET IN
9:41:05AM THAT EXPRESS LANE, I USE A TOKEN.
9:41:07AM I USE A TOKEN.
9:41:08AM IN THIS CASE, THE TOKEN IS REAL DOLLARS.
9:41:10AM AND THAT'S WHEN IT GETS UNEVEN BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE THEM
9:41:14AM AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
9:41:16AM THAT'S WHY I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OPPOSED TO THEM.
9:41:18AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:41:19AM I JUST THINK THAT PERHAPS WE CAN -- ESPECIALLY IN THIS AGE
9:41:22AM OF TECHNOLOGY, MAYBE WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE TOKENS.
9:41:26AM MAYBE WE CAN TAG CARS AND THAT SORT OF THING LIKE WE DO WITH
9:41:31AM THE REGULAR TOLL ROADS.
9:41:32AM TO GIVE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY.
9:41:35AM YOU GET SIX SHOTS A MONTH ON THIS EXPRESS LANE AND THAT'S
9:41:39AM IT.
9:41:40AM BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COST YOU ANYTHING.
9:41:42AM >> WE CAN ALLOW THINGS, LIKE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, WE ALLOW CAR
9:41:46AM POOLS TO USE THOSE LANES FOR FREE.
9:41:48AM THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES THAT CAN USE IT FOR FREE.
9:41:53AM WHAT I'M SAYING, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S PROBABLY -- THROUGH THE
9:41:57AM WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE, PROBABLY EIGHT YEARS BEFORE WE'RE
9:42:00AM OPEN AND OPERATING EXPRESS LANES.
9:42:02AM NOT GOING TO START THE PROJECT ANOTHER THREE TO FOUR YEARS
9:42:04AM AND PROBABLY A FOUR TO FIVE-YEAR PROJECT TO BUILD IT OUT.
9:42:07AM BY THEN, WHO KNOWS WHAT TECHNOLOGY WILL LOOK LIKE.
9:42:09AM WHO KNOWS WHAT OPTIONS WE'LL HAVE.
9:42:11AM IT'S NOT SET IN STONE.
9:42:13AM AS EASY AS FLIPPING A SWITCH.
9:42:14AM WE'RE SAYING IT'S DYNAMICALLY TOLLED.
9:42:17AM PART OF THAT IS WE HAVE TO PROVE TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
9:42:18AM ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE MOST OF THIS IS FEDERAL MONEY, THAT
9:42:21AM THE SYSTEM WILL WORK.
9:42:23AM AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS IS SIMILAR TO HOW THE AIRLINE
9:42:26AM INDUSTRY WORKS, A LOT OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES WORK AND HIGHER
9:42:28AM DEMAND.
9:42:29AM YOU CHARGE MAYBE MORE AND LOWER DEMAND YOU CHARGE LESS.
9:42:31AM MAYBE TIMES OF THE DAY WE CHARGE NOTHING.
9:42:33AM AND SO IT'S A MANAGEMENT TOOL IS ALL IT IS.
9:42:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:42:40AM THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING STRAIGHTFORWARD AND SAYING IT LIKE
9:42:43AM IT IS.
9:42:43AM IN FACT, YOU ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO
9:42:46AM ASK WHEN YOU STARTED SAYING 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND SO FORTH.
9:42:50AM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A FIX OF A PROBLEM FOR HOW MANY
9:42:55AM YEARS BEFORE IT BECOMES ANOTHER FIX.
9:42:56AM IN OTHER WORDS, I HATE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES, BECAUSE INSTEAD
9:42:59AM OF BEING PROACTIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE REACTIVE BECAUSE WHEN
9:43:03AM YOU FINISH IT, THE POPULATION HAS INCREASED BY WHATEVER
9:43:05AM AMOUNT AND IT BECOMES SOMEWHAT ANTIQUATED.
9:43:08AM SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
9:43:11AM IS THERE ANY TIME IN YOUR LIFETIME OR OURS THAT YOU THINK
9:43:14AM THAT THE EXPRESS SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY LARGER IN THE
9:43:17AM NEXT 30 YEARS?
9:43:18AM I DON'T THINK SO.
9:43:21AM I'M ANSWERING FOR MYSELF BECAUSE WE ARE EDUCATING OURSELVES
9:43:26AM AT THE TIME EVERYBODY HAS A CAR, AND HUMANS ARE CREATURES OF
9:43:31AM HABIT.
9:43:32AM IN OTHER WORDS, WE SEE CARS WHEN WE'RE SMALL.
9:43:35AM EVERYBODY IS DRIVING A CAR.
9:43:36AM YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN AFFORD THE INSURANCE, YOU
9:43:42AM GET A CAR.
9:43:43AM WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE ANOTHER CAR ON THE EXPRESSWAY.
9:43:46AM IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE THE MIND-SET OF THE
9:43:49AM YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE THE YOUNG BECOME THE
9:43:51AM DRIVERS.
9:43:51AM THEY BECOME THE LEADERS.
9:43:53AM THEY BECOME THE CYCLE.
9:43:56AM WE NEVER HAVE TRIED.
9:43:57AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE TRIED GOING TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND
9:44:00AM TEACHING THE KIDS SOMETHING THROUGH EDUCATION WHAT IS NEEDED
9:44:04AM TO STOP THE CONGESTION THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE
9:44:08AM EMISSIONS OF CARBON AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
9:44:11AM I WAS WATCHING WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN NEW DELHI THE OTHER
9:44:15AM DAY, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
9:44:17AM WHAT HAPPENS THERE WILL HAPPEN SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THIS
9:44:19AM COUNTRY.
9:44:19AM IT HAS TO BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING TO THAT POINT.
9:44:22AM LOS ANGELES MAYBE GOT THAT PROBLEM.
9:44:24AM BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
9:44:27AM CANNOT AVOID.
9:44:28AM SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THAT.
9:44:30AM THAT'S THE POSITION YOU GENTLEMEN ARE IN, LADIES ARE IN, IN
9:44:34AM THAT DEPARTMENT.
9:44:35AM I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE ON THE MPO.
9:44:38AM SMART ENOUGH TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
9:44:40AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I THINK ONCE THEY BECOME A CAR DRIVER,
9:44:46AM YOU LOST CONTROL.
9:44:47AM IT HAS TO BE BEFORE.
9:44:48AM GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, BEING OF AGE HAS ADVANTAGES SOMETIMES.
9:44:53AM I REMEMBER EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RODE A BUS.
9:44:57AM AND THEN I REALIZED EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME INCOME.
9:45:00AM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE INSURANCE.
9:45:02AM WE COULD BUY A CAR FOR HUNDRED, TWO HUNDRED, COULDN'T AFFORD
9:45:06AM THE INSURANCE, SO WE RODE THE BUS.
9:45:08AM TODAY'S SOCIETY HAS CHANGED.
9:45:10AM I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A CAR WHENEVER
9:45:13AM THEY WANT, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE THE THOUGHTFULNESS
9:45:17AM OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, HER AND HE THAT WANT TO BUY A CAR AS
9:45:21AM SOON AS THEY TURN 16 OR 17 OR 18 AND HOW DO YOU GET THAT
9:45:25AM PERSON TO RIDE A BUS?
9:45:27AM THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHAT THEY
9:45:29AM SEE AND WHAT THEY HEAR IS THE OPPOSITE AND THEY ARE
9:45:33AM CONFUSED.
9:45:35AM >> WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH SCHOOLS TO EDUCATE THEM ON A
9:45:38AM LOT OF THINGS AND PERHAPS ENTERING OUR INDUSTRY WHICH IS
9:45:42AM KIND OF SHRINKING IN TERMS OF PEOPLE GOING INTO IT.
9:45:47AM I THINK THERE ARE SOME CHANGES OCCURRING.
9:45:48AM THE BIGGEST THING THAT CONTROLS TRAFFIC IS LAND USE.
9:45:51AM IF YOU APPROVE LAND USE, ROADS DON'T GENERATE TRAFFIC, LAND
9:45:55AM USE DOES.
9:45:55AM YOU BUILD HOMES, AND SO HOW YOU MANAGE THAT WITH THE
9:45:59AM COUNTIES AND THE CITIES AND ALL HANDLE THE MANAGEMENT OF
9:46:02AM LAND USE DECISIONS, CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT ON HOW
9:46:06AM THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WORKS.
9:46:09AM TWO THINGS FROM WHAT I HEAR DICTATE WHETHER PEOPLE WILL USE
9:46:14AM TRANSIT.
9:46:15AM ONE IS, IS IT RELIABLE AND IS IT FREQUENT?
9:46:18AM IN OTHER WORDS, CAN I COUNT ON IT BEING AT THE BUS STOP WHEN
9:46:23AM I'M GOING TO BE THERE OR I'LL HAVE TO WAIT A HALF HOUR?
9:46:26AM TWO, WHEN I NEED TO GO HOME OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, WILL IT BE
9:46:30AM QUICK OR DO I HAVE TO WAIT AN HOUR OR TWO?
9:46:32AM ONCE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM, I THINK, GETS UP AND RUNNING, AND
9:46:35AM HOPEFULLY WITH THE NEW MONEY THAT WILL BE POURED INTO IT, IF
9:46:38AM IT BECOMES RELIABLE AND PREDICTABLE AND THEN WE CAN START TO
9:46:41AM HAVE, I THINK, A BIGGER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW DO WE MANAGE
9:46:44AM TRAFFIC.
9:46:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE ITEM.
9:46:45AM IF YOU LIVE WHERE YOU WORK, IT STOPS PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ON
9:46:51AM THE EXPRESSWAY.
9:46:53AM >> MORE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING FROM HOME.
9:46:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THEY WANT TO BLAME EVERYTHING ON
9:46:57AM THE EXPRESSWAY FOR KILLING YBOR CITY.
9:46:59AM IT'S A COMPONENT, BUT IT'S NOT THE TOTAL THING.
9:47:03AM WHEN ALL THE CIGAR WORKERS LOST THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF
9:47:06AM FACTORIES AND -- THEY ALL LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY
9:47:12AM WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:47:13AM PART OF IT.
9:47:14AM YOU GUYS HELPED OUT AT THE END, BUT THEY WERE THE START.
9:47:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:47:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SECRETARY, WHILE I STILL HAVE YOU SO I
9:47:23AM CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE HISTORICAL
9:47:27AM DISTRICT SIGN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS?
9:47:30AM SO MANY TRIPS ON THE INTERSTATE TO DESIGNATE THAT?
9:47:33AM WHAT IS THE QUALIFICATION TO MAKE SURE MR. BENNETT KNOWS AND
9:47:35AM MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING FLOWING TO GET IT DONE, IF WE
9:47:37AM CAN GET IT DONE FOR WEST TAMPA?
9:47:41AM >> RIGHT.
9:47:41AM WE GET TONS OF REQUESTS FOR SIGNAGE ON THE INTERSTATE ALL
9:47:44AM THE TIME.
9:47:44AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS ISN'T A GOOD REQUEST.
9:47:48AM NOT AT ALL, JOE.
9:47:49AM AND I'VE TALKED TO JOE ABOUT THIS.
9:47:51AM WE GET LOTS OF REQUEST.
9:47:53AM WE HAVE TO HAVE CRITERIA SO WE DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS OF SIGNS
9:47:55AM ALL OVER THE INTERSTATE.
9:47:56AM BECAUSE THE MORE SIGNS YOU PUT UP, THE LESS EFFECTIVE THE
9:47:59AM ONES THAT ARE UP ARE GOING TO BE.
9:48:01AM WE DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD THE DRIVER'S DISTRACTION.
9:48:04AM SO THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
9:48:06AM IT HAS TO DO WITH CERTAIN NUMBER OF TRIPS, SOMETHING -- I
9:48:13AM DON'T KNOW THEM BY HEART.
9:48:14AM BUT THE APPLICATION HAS TO COME IN WITH THE DATA WE NEED.
9:48:17AM IT'S ACTUALLY STUFF I HAVE TO GET APPROVED THROUGH
9:48:20AM TALLAHASSEE BECAUSE ON THE INTERSTATE THEY MANAGE THAT.
9:48:23AM BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH IT.
9:48:25AM WE JUST NEED TO GET THE APPLICATION IN, GET ALL THE
9:48:28AM INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WHY THE SIGN
9:48:31AM MEETS THE CRITERIA.
9:48:33AM WE'LL WORK TO TRY TO GET IT.
9:48:34AM IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO GET IT, WE'LL WORK TO DO IT.
9:48:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
9:48:40AM APPRECIATE YOU.
9:48:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:48:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:48:44AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GOOD POINTS.
9:48:46AM ONE BEING THE PSYCHOLOGY OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU CONVINCE
9:48:52AM PEOPLE TO LEAVE THEIR CARS AND MOVE TO A MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM
9:48:56AM OR ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM.
9:48:57AM THEY DID THAT AFTER WORLD WAR II WHEN THEY PULLED OFF THE
9:49:01AM STREETCARS AND WENT TO BUS SERVICE AND BUILT THE HIGHWAYS.
9:49:03AM WHY NOT HAVE THE FREEDOM OF THE AUTOMOBILE INSTEAD OF HAVING
9:49:06AM TO WAIT FOR THAT OUTDATED STREETCAR?
9:49:09AM THAT WAS THE MIND-SET AT THE TIME.
9:49:10AM YBOR CITY WAS BROUGHT UP.
9:49:14AM AND THAT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF LIVE, WORK, PLAY.
9:49:18AM STREETCAR ON 7th AVENUE.
9:49:19AM PEOPLE LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:49:20AM THEY WORKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR HAD A STORE DOWNSTAIRS
9:49:23AM AND LIVED UPSTAIRS.
9:49:24AM BUT YOU HAD MENTIONED LAND USE.
9:49:27AM AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION, THEY
9:49:30AM ALWAYS TALK ABOUT SPRAWL.
9:49:32AM AND YOU DRIVE A HALF HOUR THROUGH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
9:49:34AM YOU'RE STILL IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:49:36AM IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHEN YOU COME FROM 75 FROM THE SOUTH GOING
9:49:40AM NORTH, ENTERING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND IT STILL TAKES YOU A
9:49:43AM HALF HOUR, WITHOUT TRAFFIC, TO GET TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:49:47AM THE YOUNGER GENERATION, MY GENERATION, I THINK WE'VE BEEN
9:49:51AM VERY VOCAL, NOT JUST WITH THE WHOLE NO TBX, NO EXPRESS LANES
9:49:57AM BUT THE DISCUSSION OF CSX.
9:49:58AM THE DISCUSSION OF LOOKING AT LIGHT RAIL.
9:50:00AM THE DISCUSSION OF BETTER PLANNING WHEN WE BUILD.
9:50:03AM I'VE NEVER, MAYBE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT EVERYBODY IS AN
9:50:06AM URBAN PLANNER, AND WHAT DO YOU STUDY IN SCHOOL?
9:50:08AM I STUDIED DESIGN AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOW THINGS ARE LAID
9:50:12AM OUT.
9:50:12AM I ADMIRE THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE AN INTEREST
9:50:15AM IN HOW THEIR COMMUNITY IS BUILT AND WHAT WE DO AND HOW IT
9:50:19AM AFFECTS THE NEXT GENERATIONS AND WHATNOT.
9:50:21AM I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION AS WELL.
9:50:24AM HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO KEEP WIDENING AND FIXING THE
9:50:28AM INTERSTATE AND ACCOMMODATING THE NEW PEOPLE IN THE TRAFFIC?
9:50:32AM I THINK IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, I THINK OUR POPULATION HAS
9:50:34AM RISEN ALMOST 55,000 PEOPLE HAVE COME TO THE CITY, ALMOST
9:50:39AM 60,000.
9:50:39AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
9:50:40AM WHEN I GO OUT, I GO TO THE BUSY PLACES AND I DON'T RECOGNIZE
9:50:43AM ANYBODY.
9:50:43AM A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AND WHATNOT.
9:50:45AM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, WE
9:50:47AM WANT TO LIVE DOWNTOWN.
9:50:49AM WE WANT TO LIVE NEAR WHERE WE WORK.
9:50:51AM WE USE A SCOOTER.
9:50:52AM WE USE THE UBER.
9:50:53AM A LOT OF PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE A CAR, BUT THEN THE
9:50:57AM GENERAL POPULATION NEEDS THAT CAR.
9:50:58AM YOU TALK TO MY PARENTS, TALK TO MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEY
9:51:01AM COULDN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING A CAR AND HAVING TO USE THE BUS,
9:51:05AM BECAUSE THE CONVENIENCE AND THE TIMING AND WHATNOT.
9:51:08AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ALL FOR
9:51:11AM TRANSPORTATION, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT'S TIED UP IN
9:51:15AM LITIGATION.
9:51:16AM I HOPE IT MOVES FORWARD IN OUR FAVOR SO WE CAN HAVE THAT
9:51:18AM FUNDING.
9:51:19AM SPEAKING WITH YOU AND PREVIOUS DISTRICT SECRETARY, IT WAS
9:51:21AM ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
9:51:23AM WE CAN HAVE THAT MONEY.
9:51:24AM WE CAN LOOK AT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION AND WHATNOT, IF IT
9:51:26AM MOVES FORWARD, WE CAN LOOK AT EXPANDING THE STREETCAR.
9:51:29AM WE CAN LOOK AT LIGHT RAIL.
9:51:30AM WE CAN LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS INSTEAD OF WE HAVE TO
9:51:33AM FIX MALFUNCTION JUNCTION.
9:51:34AM WE HAVE TO FIX WHAT'S GOING ON AT 60 AND THE WESTSHORE AREA
9:51:37AM THERE, THE INTERCHANGE.
9:51:39AM BUT I HOPE THAT -- AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A EUROPEAN MODEL
9:51:43AM OR LOOK AT THE JAPANESE MODELS OF HIGH-SPEED TRAINS AND
9:51:46AM WHATNOT, BUT LOOK AT DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, BECAUSE IT'S
9:51:48AM NOT ALWAYS ABOUT ROAD WIDENING.
9:51:50AM AND YBOR CITY AGAIN WAS BROUGHT UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT
9:51:53AM CAUSED THAT CHANGE THERE AND IN WEST TAMPA?
9:51:56AM A GENTLEMAN I SPOKE TO WHO IS IN HIS 90s NOW, SAID WE LEFT
9:52:00AM AFTER WORLD WAR II, AFTER KOREA, WE LEFT BECAUSE WE WERE
9:52:03AM LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE.
9:52:04AM NOT BECAUSE THE INTERSTATE CAME THROUGH, BECAUSE WE WANTED
9:52:07AM BETTER.
9:52:07AM WE WANTED TO MOVE UP IN THE WORLD.
9:52:09AM MOVED TO DAVIS ISLANDS.
9:52:10AM THEY MOVED TO BRANDON.
9:52:11AM THEY MOVED TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WHEREVER.
9:52:15AM THEY WANTED A NEW AND BETTER HOUSE.
9:52:17AM IT'S OLD.
9:52:18AM SOMETHING MAYOR DICK GRECO TOLD ME, YOU WERE MAYOR DURING
9:52:20AM URBAN RENEWAL.
9:52:21AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAD AN URBAN RENEWAL OFFICE UNTIL 1974.
9:52:24AM HE WAS MAYOR FROM '67 TO '74.
9:52:27AM I SAID HOW COULD YOU DEMOLISH THIS AND THAT AND ALL THE
9:52:30AM HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
9:52:31AM ART DECO, BOW ARTS, ALL THE BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE THAT WE
9:52:35AM COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUILD TODAY.
9:52:36AM HE SAID THERE WAS NO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
9:52:38AM IT WAS OLD.
9:52:39AM AND WE NEEDED A PARKING LOT.
9:52:41AM OR THE ROAD WAS COMING THROUGH OR THE HIGHWAY WAS GOING
9:52:44AM THROUGH.
9:52:44AM GOING BACK TO THE 90 SOMETHING-YEAR-OLD MAN, HE SAID WE CAME
9:52:47AM BACK TO YBOR CITY AND OLD NEIGHBORHOODS 40, 50 YEARS LATER
9:52:51AM AND WE GET EMOTIONAL AND CRY AND GO, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED?
9:52:53AM THE ANSWER IS, WE HAPPENED.
9:52:55AM THINGS CHANGED.
9:52:56AM WE MOVED OUT AND NOW WE COME BACK AND SAY EVERYTHING IS
9:52:59AM DIFFERENT AS IT ONCE WAS.
9:53:01AM YOU CAN'T ALWAYS BLAME F.D.O.T. AND THE INTERSTATE COMING
9:53:04AM THROUGH.
9:53:04AM IT'S A LOT OF FACTORS, SOCIAL FACTORS AND WHATNOT.
9:53:07AM I HOPE MOVING FORWARD WE CAN LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF
9:53:11AM TRANSPORTATION INSTEAD OF JUST WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THE
9:53:15AM AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC.
9:53:16AM >> NO, WE CERTAINLY WILL.
9:53:18AM WE CERTAINLY WILL.
9:53:19AM WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO
9:53:22AM LOOK AT A RAIL PROJECT TO LOOK AT EXPANDING BUS RAPID
9:53:26AM TRANSIT SYSTEMS.
9:53:27AM WE'RE ALREADY FUNDING A LOT OF THOSE STUDIES AND MOVING
9:53:30AM FORWARD AS IT IS.
9:53:31AM WE'RE NOT JUST DEPARTMENT OF ROADS.
9:53:33AM ROADS ARE ONE PART.
9:53:34AM I DON'T THINK YOU EVER SEE THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE IN THAT
9:53:37AM AREA BEING IMPROVED AGAIN.
9:53:39AM THAT'S ABOUT ALL YOU'LL EVER GET.
9:53:41AM BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE AIRPORT THAT'S PREDICTING TWICE THE
9:53:45AM NUMBER OF CARS IN AND OUT OF IT EVERY DAY IN 20 YEARS, THE
9:53:49AM PORT, MORE PEOPLE MOVING HERE.
9:53:50AM WE HAVE 150 PEOPLE A DAY MOVING INTO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:53:53AM THEY GOT TO GET STUFF THAT THEY BUY AT THE STORE OR GET
9:53:56AM DELIVERED TO THEIR HOUSE, A LOT OF THAT COMES INTO PORT,
9:53:59AM AIRPORT, TRUCKS.
9:54:00AM IT'S NOT JUST THE PASSENGER CARS.
9:54:02AM WE HAVE THE FREIGHT MOVING.
9:54:04AM EVERYTHING.
9:54:04AM IF WE'RE GOING TO BE AN ECONOMICALLY GROWING COMMUNITY, WE
9:54:07AM NEED A LOT OF THAT.
9:54:08AM SO ROADS WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF IT.
9:54:11AM IF YOU LOOK AT ANY CITY THAT HAS A GREAT TRANSIT SYSTEM, THE
9:54:14AM TRAFFIC USUALLY IS PRETTY BAD AS WELL.
9:54:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THEY HAVE THE ALTERNATIVES.
9:54:19AM >> YOU HAVE THE OPTIONS.
9:54:20AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
9:54:20AM OVER TIME, WE HAVE TO INTRODUCE THE OPTIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE
9:54:23AM TO NECESSARILY DO AS MUCH ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
9:54:26AM INVEST IN OTHER SYSTEMS.
9:54:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO DIVERSIFY AND LOOK AT ALL THE
9:54:30AM OPTIONS.
9:54:31AM WE CHANGED THE PSYCHOLOGY ONCE AFTER WORLD WAR II WHEN ALL
9:54:34AM THIS HAPPENED.
9:54:34AM CHANGE IT AGAIN AS YOUNGER PEOPLE, NEWER FOLKS COME HERE AND
9:54:38AM SAY WE WANT SOMETHING BETTER.
9:54:39AM BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS.
9:54:41AM WE AS MEMBERS OF THE MPO, CITY COUNCIL, WHATEVER CAPACITY,
9:54:45AM WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, NOT JUST SAYING FIX THE
9:54:47AM ROAD, WIDEN THE ROAD.
9:54:49AM THERE ARE MORE SIGNS TO IT.
9:54:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:54:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GWYNN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
9:54:56AM I HAVE FOUR REQUESTS FOR YOU, IF YOU WOULD.
9:55:00AM DIAGRAMS, COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.
9:55:07AM WHO CONTROLS THE CLEANUP OF JUNK, TRASH, AND DEBRIS OF ALL
9:55:11AM THE ON-RAMPS AND OFFRAMPS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF TAMPA?
9:55:15AM >> I DO.
9:55:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE CONSTITUENTS CALLING ME SAYING THAT
9:55:19AM AFTER A RAIN, ALL THE GRATES ARE FULL OF PLASTIC BOTTLES AND
9:55:22AM WHATNOT.
9:55:23AM THEY CALL ME UP AND SAY THAT THERE ARE BEDS ON THESE,
9:55:27AM TOILETS, ALL THESE CERTAIN THINGS.
9:55:29AM I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO I HAVE TO CALL TO MAKE SURE THAT
9:55:33AM THOSE THINGS GET CLEANED.
9:55:36AM DON'T NEED TO ANSWER ME.
9:55:37AM I'M REQUESTING.
9:55:37AM WHO CONTROLS, WHO DO WE AS A COUNCIL CALL TO MAKE SURE THEY
9:55:42AM GET CLEANED UP?
9:55:43AM NUMBER TWO, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DIAGRAM OF ALL THE
9:55:47AM RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT F.D.O.T. OWNS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
9:55:52AM NUMBER THREE, NOW THAT WE HAVE CHISELED AWAY AT THAT PLAN
9:55:59AM FROM 1995 AND OUR INTERSTATE SYSTEM WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS
9:56:05AM OF TAMPA, NOW WHEN CAN WE START THINKING ABOUT THAT FIRST
9:56:08AM LEG OF LIGHT RAIL FROM THE AIRPORT TO DOWNTOWN WITH STOPS AT
9:56:13AM WESTSHORE, LOIS, DALE MABRY, HIMES, AND ARMENIA SO THAT
9:56:19AM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN WEST TAMPA, NORTH HYDE PARK, WHO WORK
9:56:24AM DOWNTOWN DON'T HAVE TO USE A CAR?
9:56:28AM SIMPLY PUT, MR. GWYNN, IT IS NOT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA
9:56:33AM CAUSING THE PROBLEMS ON THE INTERSTATES WITHIN THE CITY
9:56:35AM LIMITS.
9:56:36AM IT IS THE 100,000 PLUS PEOPLE THAT DRIVE INTO OUR DOWNTOWN
9:56:41AM CORRIDOR EVERY DAY COMING FROM POLK, PASCO, PINELLAS,
9:56:44AM MANATEE, SARASOTA, THAT TRAVEL I-4, 275, VETERANS AND LEE
9:56:51AM ROY SELMON AND EVERY BRIDGE THAT CROSSES THE WAY.
9:56:54AM IF WE COULD TAKE ONE-THIRD OF THOSE PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD AND
9:56:57AM GIVE THEM PUBLIC MASS TRANSPORTATION, THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA
9:57:00AM WOULDN'T BE COMPLAINING ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC.
9:57:02AM MR. GWYNN, I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
9:57:04AM I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT REPORT NEXT MONTH.
9:57:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:07AM >> THANK YOU.
9:57:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, ARE YOU READY TO START UP AGAIN?
9:57:10AM THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, FOR LETTING US MOVE THAT
9:57:14AM FORWARD.
9:57:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, WE'LL
9:57:20AM MOVE ON TO THE CRA MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS BY EACH
9:57:24AM RESPECTIVE CRA MANAGER.
9:57:25AM WE HAVE THE PowerPoint UP.
9:57:27AM JUST A SIDE NOTE THAT MANAGER ROB ROSNER IS OUT OF THE
9:57:32AM COUNTRY TRAVELING FOR BUSINESS.
9:57:33AM HIS SECTION WILL BE REPORTED BY A FELLOW MANAGER.
9:57:35AM THANK YOU.
9:57:40AM >> MALCOLM KINER, CITY OF TAMPA STAFF.
9:57:44AM CAN WE FORWARD THE SLIDE, HAVE THE PRESENTATION?
9:58:00AM DO YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION?
9:58:05AM OKAY.
9:58:06AM IT'S NOT SHOWING TO THE AUDIENCE.
9:58:07AM THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON.
9:58:08AM HE PROVIDED THE UPDATE OF WEST TAMPA.
9:58:10AM THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IN WEST TAMPA.
9:58:14AM YOU ALL WILL BE RECEIVING AN INVITATION FROM REBUILDING
9:58:17AM TOGETHER TAMPA BAY.
9:58:18AM THEY WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT THIS IS THE WEEK OF THEIR
9:58:22AM NATIONAL CONFERENCE.
9:58:23AM THEY HAVE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM A PRIVATE COMPANY TO DO UP
9:58:27AM TO $30,000 OF RENOVATION WORK AT RAY PARK OFF OF HOWARD,
9:58:33AM WHICH IS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA CRA DISTRICT.
9:58:35AM THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY INVITE ALL OF YOU TO THE EVENT
9:58:38AM THEY'LL HAVE ON DECEMBER 7th.
9:58:40AM THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING INTERIOR PAINTING.
9:58:42AM THEY ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING A SMALL STAGE FOR THE KIDS.
9:58:45AM THEY ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVING A FLAT-PANEL TV AND CONSOLE
9:58:49AM WITH VIDEO GAMES, NEW FURNITURE, A NEW COMPUTER AREA.
9:58:53AM THEY ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE RECEPTION AREA.
9:58:55AM THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO RENOVATE THE WEIGHT GYM.
9:58:59AM ADD A NEW FLOOR.
9:59:00AM PAINT THE WEIGHT GYM.
9:59:01AM THEY'LL MAKE KITCHEN UPGRADES BY ADDING NEW STAINLESS STEEL
9:59:06AM APPLIANCES AND PAINT THE CONCESSION STAND, WHICH IS IN THE
9:59:09AM REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
9:59:10AM WE WANT TO PROMOTE THIS.
9:59:12AM THIS IS AT NO EXPENSE TO THE CRA OR TO THE CITY PARKS
9:59:14AM DEPARTMENT.
9:59:15AM MOVING FORWARD TO DREW PARK, THE TAMPA BAY LINEAR PARK, THEY
9:59:22AM HAVE BEGAN MOBILIZATION ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PARK
9:59:25AM ALONG TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD.
9:59:27AM WE ALSO HAVE WORKED WITH CONTRACT ADMIN TO FINALIZE THE
9:59:31AM SELECTION OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FIRM TO UPDATE OUR
9:59:34AM STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
9:59:35AM THAT WILL BE COMING TO THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL IN THE COMING
9:59:38AM MONTHS.
9:59:38AM OUR FACADE GRANT PROGRAM IS ACTIVE.
9:59:41AM WE ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS, AS WELL AS OUR FENCING GRANT
9:59:44AM PROGRAM.
9:59:45AM THE INDIRECT ACTIVITIES, AS I STATED LAST MONTH, HCC
9:59:51AM COMPLETED THEIR NEW ALLIED HEALTH BUILDING.
9:59:53AM THE STADIUM CENTER PROJECT, WHICH IS A REALLY LARGE
9:59:55AM REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT ALONG DALE MABRY IS UNDER
9:59:59AM CONSTRUCTION.
9:59:59AM AND ACROSS FROM DREW PARK, THE CAE BUILDING IS PREPARING FOR
10:00:04AM $40 MILLION CONSTRUCTION OF A FACILITY THERE THAT WE'RE
10:00:07AM HOPEFUL THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL UTILIZE THE BUSINESSES IN
10:00:15AM DREW PARK.
10:00:16AM NOTABLE EVENTS, THE ALL ART STUDIO HELD A RIBBON CUTTING
10:00:20AM LAST MONTH.
10:00:21AM THIS FACILITY WILL OPERATE AS A MULTIPURPOSE ARTS MAGNET.
10:00:23AM IT CAN HOUSE ART EXHIBITS, PLAYS, CONCERTS, BANQUETS.
10:00:26AM SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD TO HAVE THIS IN DREW PARK.
10:00:30AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL PASS IT ON TO MY COLLEAGUE
10:00:34AM FOR YBOR'S REPORT, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:00:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:00:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTION WITH REFERENCE TO DREW PARK,
10:00:41AM THAT'S THE ONLY ONE NOT IN MY DISTRICT.
10:00:43AM I WANT TO KNOW, HOW IS THE PARTICIPATION NOW?
10:00:46AM >> WE NEED MEMBERS.
10:00:47AM WE HAVE 11 CACs FOR DREW PARK.
10:00:52AM RIGHT NOW, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 6 ACTIVE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
10:00:55AM WE HAVE 5 VACANCIES.
10:00:56AM IF ONE OF THOSE 6 CANNOT MAKE IT TO THE MEETING, AND
10:01:00AM OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
10:01:03AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER DID AT THE LAST MEETING TAKE ME TO THE
10:01:07AM SIDE AND ASK ME TO PROVIDE HIM WITH SOME INFORMATION ON
10:01:10AM BUSINESSES AND FOLKS IN THE DISTRICT THAT HAVE RECEIVED
10:01:13AM FACADE GRANTS.
10:01:14AM I HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD IF THERE'S ANYONE OR
10:01:18AM ANYBODY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO CONTACT.
10:01:21AM CURRENT MEMBERS ARE WORKING ON RECRUITING.
10:01:23AM WE'RE WORKING ON RECRUITING.
10:01:24AM IT'S LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT
10:01:27AM PARTICIPATION RIGHT NOW.
10:01:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU BELIEVE IN TIME THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO
10:01:32AM CHANGE?
10:01:33AM >> I'M NOT CERTAIN.
10:01:34AM I THINK 11 IS A GOOD NUMBER.
10:01:36AM I THINK WE NEED TO BETTER, MYSELF INCLUDED, A BETTER JOB OF
10:01:40AM OUTREACH AND TRYING TO RECRUIT.
10:01:41AM DREW PARK HAD A VERY LARGE-SCALE STREETSCAPE PROJECT AND
10:01:47AM STORMWATER PROJECT WHERE THEY RE-DID LOIS AVENUE AS WELL AS
10:01:51AM GRADY AVENUE, AND THAT ALLEVIATED THE FLOODING IN THE AREA.
10:01:55AM THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN FOR THE BUSINESSES AND THE FOLKS
10:01:57AM THAT LIVED IN THAT AREA.
10:01:58AM ONCE THAT KIND OF GOT IMPROVED, THE INTEREST WANED.
10:02:05AM I HAVE HEARD FROM A FORMER CAC MEMBER WHO PLANS TO APPLY BUT
10:02:10AM WE STILL HAVE FIVE VACANCIES.
10:02:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS TO LURE PROSPECTIVE
10:02:16AM PEOPLE?
10:02:16AM I KNOW IT'S VOLUNTEER AND PEOPLE HAVE LIMITED TIME OR SOME
10:02:19AM DON'T LIKE TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT'S TOO MUCH
10:02:22AM PRESSURE, BUT HAVE YOU COME UP WITH ANY IDEAS THAT YOU THINK
10:02:26AM MIGHT GET PEOPLE --
10:02:29AM >> WE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL.
10:02:30AM SOME HAVE SHOWN INTEREST.
10:02:33AM SOME TURNED IN AN APPLICATION BUT THEN CHANGED THEIR MIND.
10:02:36AM I'M OPEN TO LISTENING AND RECEIVING FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD,
10:02:39AM FROM ANYBODY WHO MAY HAVE IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN DO THAT
10:02:42AM OUTREACH.
10:02:43AM AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS.
10:02:45AM SOMETIMES OUR PROCESS, IT MOVES SLOW.
10:02:47AM WE HAD ONE MEMBER WHO WAS AN OFFICER AT COLLEGE -- MOVING.
10:02:53AM HE BASICALLY SAID HE WAS GOING TO RESIGN BECAUSE HE KIND OF
10:02:56AM MOVED A LITTLE BIT TOO SLOW FOR HIM AND HE WAS BUSY.
10:03:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY AND YOUR
10:03:02AM LEADERSHIP.
10:03:02AM [ENCODER DROP]
10:03:27AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- CAMERAS AND REALLY HELP A LOT OF AREAS
10:03:30AM AROUND TOWN THAT ARE HIGH CRIME WERE HAVING ISSUES ANYWAY.
10:03:35AM BUT IN REGARD -- AND MR. BENNETT, MAYBE THIS IS TOWARD YOU
10:03:40AM AS WELL AND YOUR CONNECTION WITH TPD.
10:03:44AM THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT TPD WOULD BE MONITORING --
10:03:48AM MONITORING.
10:03:49AM AND I GUESS I NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR
10:03:52AM CONVERSATION -- AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ANY SECURITY
10:03:56AM SECRETS BECAUSE I'M COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WELL.
10:04:00AM I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF WHAT
10:04:03AM IS TPD ASSURING US.
10:04:06AM THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I THINK THE CITY HAD CAMERAS IN
10:04:09AM YBOR CITY A LONG TIME AGO.
10:04:12AM PEOPLE SAID THERE WASN'T ENOUGH MANPOWER, PERSON POWER AT
10:04:16AM TPD TO MONITOR THEM AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CAMERAS, I
10:04:20AM GUESS, WENT AWAY.
10:04:21AM THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS, IS THE MONITORING GOING TO BE
10:04:24AM CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY AND THAT SORT OF THING FROM TPD?
10:04:27AM JOHN, YOU CAN HELP US WITH THAT AS WELL.
10:04:30AM THE OTHER QUESTION IS, AND I POKED AT YOU ON THIS AS WELL,
10:04:34AM FACIAL RECOGNITION.
10:04:36AM I HOPE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS CAMERA PROGRAM
10:04:42AM BECAUSE THAT CAME UP IN YBOR WHEN CAMERAS WERE PROPOSED IN
10:04:48AM YBOR MANY YEARS AGO AND IT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
10:04:53AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:04:55AM I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR CHIEF DUGAN AND HIS OPERATIONS.
10:04:58AM HOWEVER, THERE'S JUST TWO CONCEPTS AND THEN ONE ANSWER TO
10:05:01AM YOUR QUESTION.
10:05:02AM THERE'S OBVIOUSLY REAL-TIME -- A LOT OF AGENCIES ARE GOING
10:05:04AM TO REAL-TIME CRIME CENTERS.
10:05:06AM CAMERAS IN PUBLIC SPACES ARE BEING MONITORED REGULARLY OR AT
10:05:13AM LEAST SITUATIONALLY DEPENDING ON THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE
10:05:16AM DATA AND SITUATIONAL CRIMES THAT OCCUR.
10:05:18AM AND THEN THERE ARE SITUATIONAL REVIEWS WHERE THE AGENCY MAY
10:05:21AM BE GIVEN ACCESS BY A BUSINESS OR A NONPROFIT OR WHATEVER,
10:05:25AM AND THAT WAY, IF THEY DO GET A CALL, THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS
10:05:28AM BUT IT'S NOT REAL-TIME ACCESS.
10:05:30AM THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE TWO MODELS OUT THERE.
10:05:32AM THE RELATIONSHIP THAT TPD USES IN THEIR REAL-TIME CRIME
10:05:36AM CENTER, I WOULD SUGGEST REACHING OUT TO CHIEF DUGAN AND
10:05:39AM MAYBE GET A TOUR AND FIRSTHAND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE
10:05:42AM REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER DOES THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO SHOW
10:05:46AM WITHOUT ANY SECURITY BREACHES.
10:05:47AM BUT THE SECOND THING IS, AND I WAS HERE WAY BACK WHEN THAT
10:05:50AM FIRST GENERATION, IF YOU WILL, OF FACIAL RECOGNITION IN THE
10:05:54AM SUPER BOWL WAS COMING TO TAMPA AND IT WAS KIND OF
10:05:58AM EXPLORATORY, MUCH LIKE WE'RE HEADING INTO THE 5G FOR THE
10:06:02AM NEXT SUPER BOWL, SO TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES.
10:06:04AM THERE'S NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF.
10:06:05AM NONE WHILE I WAS HERE.
10:06:06AM NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF NOW OF ANY FACIAL RECOGNITION
10:06:10AM CAPACITY OR CAPABILITIES INSIDE THE TAMPA TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM.
10:06:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
10:06:15AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:06:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
10:06:17AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:06:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF BENNETT, MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS THIS
10:06:21AM WHEN IT GETS TO THE ITEM LATER.
10:06:23AM LAST WEEK IN CITY COUNCIL, WE HAD THE DRONE ISSUE COME UP
10:06:27AM AND SINCE THEN, I'VE GOTTEN 30 OR 40 E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO
10:06:31AM ARE AGAINST IT.
10:06:33AM I REMEMBER THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE FACIAL RECOGNITION
10:06:37AM YEARS AGO.
10:06:38AM NOT MAKING A MOTION, BUT I WISH WE COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF
10:06:42AM ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY REGARDING TECHNOLOGY, POLICE
10:06:46AM USE OF TECHNOLOGY.
10:06:48AM I KNOW THAT THE PBA ALSO HAS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW TECHNOLOGY
10:06:51AM IS USED FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, BUT I WISH WE COULD HAVE A
10:06:54AM LARGER ENGAGEMENT ABOUT IT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER
10:06:58AM QUESTIONS ONE OFF ON INDIVIDUAL TECHNOLOGY ISSUES, SO THAT
10:07:01AM PEOPLE ARE ASSURED THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO BE
10:07:04AM USED FOR TYPICAL SURVEILLANCE OR THOUGHT CRIMES OR WHATEVER.
10:07:09AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
10:07:11AM THERE ARE TWO VENUES THAT I COULD SEE NOW, POSSIBLY MORE,
10:07:14AM BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HOLDS A CITIZENS ACADEMY, SO YOU
10:07:17AM COULD GET FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE
10:07:21AM ASPECTS OF THEIR OPERATION, INCLUDING THE SUPPORTING
10:07:24AM TECHNOLOGIES, AND THEN THEY COULD RETWEET THOSE TO THE
10:07:27AM COMMUNITY.
10:07:27AM THE OTHER WOULD BE TO BRING IN A TECHNOLOGY OR AT LEAST A
10:07:30AM GROWING TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM WITHIN THE MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY
10:07:34AM PROGRAM.
10:07:35AM SO THE COMMUNITY SEES EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, ESPECIALLY
10:07:38AM IN THE TRENDING ASPECTS OF THAT.
10:07:41AM BUT STANDING UP A DRONE PROGRAM IN PINELLAS COUNTY
10:07:44AM UNDERNEATH THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, IT'S REALLY DESIGNED FOR
10:07:49AM LOWERING THE OVERHEAD AND COST RELATED TO USING HELICOPTERS
10:07:52AM FOR RESPONSIVE SCENARIOS, NOT PROACTIVE SCENARIOS.
10:07:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS AND I'LL SHUT UP AFTER THIS.
10:07:58AM IT ALSO CONTINUES ON TO I THINK AMAZON THROUGH THEIR RING
10:08:02AM TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN DOING DEALS WITH POLICE DEPARTMENTS SO
10:08:05AM THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT POLICE MONITORING PEOPLE WHO ARE
10:08:08AM NOT COMMITTING CRIMES, WHO ARE NOT SUSPECTS IN CRIME.
10:08:10AM I SUPPORT THE POLICE IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE
10:08:14AM CRIMES AND WE NEED TO SOLVE THE WEST TAMPA ISSUE, BUT ALSO
10:08:17AM CIVIL RIGHTS' CONCERNS THAT I WISH WE COULD EXPRESS IN SOME
10:08:20AM KIND OF FORM.
10:08:21AM MAYBE WE CAN TALK OFF LINE.
10:08:23AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE CAN.
10:08:25AM AND JUST KNOW -- I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE POLICE LEGAL SIDE
10:08:28AM FOR YEARS, AS WE GROW THROUGH THESE TECHNOLOGY ITERATIONS
10:08:32AM THAT WE WORK ON MAKING SURE WE HAVE TRANSPARENT PRIVACY
10:08:36AM POLICY ABOUT THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
10:08:37AM BUT THEY ARE ALL IN THE REACTIVE REALM.
10:08:42AM NOT THE PROACTIVE DOORBELL OR PROACTIVE DRONE USE.
10:08:46AM THAT'S NOT THE WAY POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AT LEAST THE WAY
10:08:50AM WE'RE ACCUSTOMED HERE, THE WAY THEY OPERATE.
10:08:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, TO YOUR POINT, I BELIEVE THE
10:08:56AM MOTION LAST WEEK WAS MADE THAT WHEN WE AMENDED -- AMENDED
10:09:00AM THE MOTION TO HAVE THE POLICE COMMUNICATION AND THE CITY'S
10:09:05AM COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR GET TOGETHER TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY
10:09:08AM ABOUT THESE DRONES AND TO INFORM ABOUT THE TAMPA POLICE
10:09:12AM DEPARTMENT POLICY AND PROCEDURES AS IT RELATES TO THE DRONES
10:09:15AM SO THE COMMUNITY CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOR THE
10:09:18AM TRANSPARENCY.
10:09:18AM I REMEMBER THAT MOTION BEING MADE LAST WEEK.
10:09:20AM THAT SHOULD BE FORTHCOMING BEFORE THE DRONES ARE EVEN PUT UP
10:09:23AM IN THE AIR THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON,
10:09:25AM WHEN THEY WILL BE UTILIZED AND HOW AND WHY THEY ARE BEING
10:09:28AM UTILIZED.
10:09:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, CHIEF, IF
10:09:32AM YOU COULD PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR COST-EFFECTIVENESS FOR THE
10:09:36AM DRONES AS OPPOSED TO THE HELICOPTER AT THAT MEETING, I WOULD
10:09:41AM GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
10:09:42AM MR. KINER, SHAKE YOUR HEAD YES OR NO, ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE
10:09:47AM A REPORT FOR MR. ROSNER?
10:09:49AM >> I AM.
10:09:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:50AM CHIEF, YBOR CITY.
10:09:58AM PLEASE PROCEED, MS. ORR.
10:10:12AM >> WE HAD A VERY ACTIVE MONTH OF OCTOBER IN YBOR CITY.
10:10:14AM SOME OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE THE BOARD MEETING.
10:10:18AM WE HAD A VERY WELL ATTENDED BOARD MEETING.
10:10:22AM COVERED HIGHLIGHTS LIKE THE MARKETING PUBLIC RELATIONS,
10:10:25AM SOCIAL MEDIA REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN BY OUR CONTRACTOR, HCP
10:10:28AM AND ASSOCIATES.
10:10:29AM WE HAD A PRESENTATION GIVEN BY TECO IN REGARD TO THE 7th
10:10:34AM AVENUE ILLUMINATED ARCHWAY LIGHT PROJECT THAT WE HOPE -- WE
10:10:39AM ANTICIPATE STARTING SOMETIME IN EARLY 2020.
10:10:41AM WE ALSO WERE PROVIDED AN UPDATE BY THE HOTEL MANAGER THAT
10:10:45AM WAS RECENTLY HIRED FOR THE YBOR HOTEL THAT WE HAVE HEARD IS
10:10:50AM ON SCHEDULE AND WILL BE PLANNED -- IS PLANNED TO OPEN IN
10:10:55AM MARCH.
10:10:55AM WE ARE FOR THE FIRST TIME COORDINATING A YCDC BOARD MEMBER
10:11:02AM ORIENTATION.
10:11:02AM WE'VE NOT DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT WE THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO
10:11:06AM ON BOARD OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS IN REGARD TO THE THREE
10:11:09AM COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE AND HOW THE BOARD OPERATES.
10:11:16AM WE DO HAVE A LARGER ORIENTATION THAT THE CITY PROVIDES FOR
10:11:19AM OUR CAC MEMBERS.
10:11:20AM HOWEVER, WE'RE TRYING TO ON BOARD OUR YCDC BOARD MEMBERS
10:11:24AM WITH A GOOD INTRO EDUCATION ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO AT
10:11:28AM THE YCDC.
10:11:29AM WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE HAVE COPPER SHAKER OPENING, HOPEFULLY
10:11:35AM IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
10:11:36AM THE COPPER SHAKER IS A RESTAURANT, SLASH, BAR, THAT IS
10:11:39AM OPERATING IN ST. PETE SUCCESSFULLY.
10:11:41AM AND THE THREE PARTNERS DECIDED TO OPEN UP A SECOND LOCATION
10:11:46AM IN YBOR CITY ON 7th AVENUE, 7th AND 15th.
10:11:50AM WE DISTRIBUTED THE FALL EDITION OF THE YBOR LEGEND
10:11:55AM NEWSLETTER SO WE USED THAT AS A COMMUNICATION TOOL TO THE
10:11:57AM COMMUNITY AND TO YOU AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON REGARDING
10:12:02AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:12:03AM WE'VE HOSTED SOME PROFESSIONAL WALKING TOURS OF THE
10:12:09AM DISTRICT.
10:12:10AM WHILE WE WERE HOSTING THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
10:12:13AM CONFERENCE, WE GAVE A TOUR TO ABOUT 55 OF THOSE MEMBERS, AND
10:12:17AM THEN ALSO PROVIDED A PROFESSIONAL TOUR TO ABOUT THAT MANY
10:12:20AM YESTERDAY.
10:12:20AM SO WE'RE EXCITED THAT OUR CHARM OF YBOR CITY IS VERY POPULAR
10:12:25AM AND PEOPLE WANT TO LEARN ABOUT ITS HISTORY AND SEE THE
10:12:29AM BEAUTY OF YBOR.
10:12:31AM WE ARE ALWAYS COORDINATING WITH SOLID WASTE AND OTHER
10:12:34AM DEPARTMENTS.
10:12:36AM WE HAD OUR YES TEAM IS ACTIVELY CLEANING THE DISTRICT ON A
10:12:40AM DAILY BASIS.
10:12:41AM AND WE WORK WITH SOLID WASTE PRACTICALLY DAILY AS WELL TO
10:12:45AM COORDINATE ANY NECESSARY CLEANUPS.
10:12:47AM AS WE GET READY TO EMBARK ON THE BIG PARADE CENTER IN YBOR,
10:12:51AM WE HAVE TO REALLY ENGAGE WITH SOLID WASTE AND THE YES TEAM
10:12:55AM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
10:12:57AM OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE DISTRICT INCLUDE THE
10:13:01AM HIGH-PRESSURE WASHING ON 7th AND 8th AVENUES TO KEEP
10:13:05AM 7th AVENUE LOOKING NICE.
10:13:07AM THERE WAS A WATER PIPE BREAK, SO THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY
10:13:11AM REPAIR THAT WE COORDINATED.
10:13:13AM BIKE RACK INSTALLATIONS ON 7th AVENUE WHENEVER REQUESTED.
10:13:18AM JUST A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE LISTED OUT THERE
10:13:20AM THAT WE WORK WITH MANY DEPARTMENTS TO KEEP YBOR LOOKING
10:13:24AM NICE.
10:13:25AM BASED ON A FORMER MOTION ABOUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
10:13:32AM GRANT FUNDING FOR THE FACADE PROGRAM, WE DID DISCUSS THAT IN
10:13:36AM NOVEMBER, AND THE PLANNING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC
10:13:39AM DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE DID DETERMINE THAT -- WE'LL DRAFT A
10:13:44AM LETTER, GET APPROVAL BY THE BOARD AND THEN SUBMIT THAT TO
10:13:47AM YOU AFTER THE NOVEMBER 26th BOARD MEETING.
10:13:50AM WE TAKE A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND ONE OF
10:14:05AM THOSE CONCERNS WAS THAT EAST PALM AVENUE, WHEN YOU'RE
10:14:08AM TURNING NORTHBOUND ONTO 22nd STREET, THE COMMUNITY HAD
10:14:11AM WITNESSED SOME COLLISIONS THERE.
10:14:13AM SO WE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT
10:14:16AM SMART MOBILITY DIVISION TO EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR SOME
10:14:19AM SAFETY MEASURES TO BE TAKEN AT THAT INTERSECTION.
10:14:24AM SO THEY'VE AGREED TO PUT THAT ON THEIR LIST OF THINGS TO DO
10:14:29AM VERY SOON IN YBOR TO BETTER DEFINE THE LANES AS PEOPLE TURN
10:14:33AM FROM GOING EASTWARD ON PALM AVENUE ONTO 22nd.
10:14:38AM PEOPLE WERE KIND OF COLLIDING, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BETTER
10:14:41AM DEFINE THOSE TURNING LANES TO AVOID COLLISION.
10:14:44AM WE'RE VERY ENGAGED WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT.
10:14:49AM WE HOLD PREPLANNING MEETINGS WITH THE PROMOTERS OF THE
10:14:52AM EVENTS THAT ARE HELD IN YBOR CITY.
10:14:54AM AND SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE COMING UP, ONE NEXT WEEK, YOU CAN
10:14:58AM ALREADY SEE THE TREE HAS BEEN PUT IN CENTRO YBOR.
10:15:01AM SO WE HAVE OUR HOLIDAY SWAGS HANGING ON OUR FIVE GLOBE LAMP
10:15:05AM POST ALREADY.
10:15:06AM OUR TREE IS UP.
10:15:07AM AND THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING IS NOVEMBER 20th, WHICH IS
10:15:10AM NEXT WEDNESDAY.
10:15:11AM THE PRESHOW STARTS AT 6:00 AND THE LIGHTING WILL HAPPEN
10:15:14AM AROUND 7.
10:15:15AM SO PLEASE ATTEND IF YOUR SCHEDULE ALLOWS.
10:15:18AM AND THEN SNOW ON 7th, A VERY POPULAR PARADE IN YBOR, IS
10:15:23AM DECEMBER 14.
10:15:24AM FEW OTHERS, HERITAGE FESTIVAL.
10:15:30AM JINGLE BELL BAZAAR.
10:15:32AM AND THE OUTBACK BOWL PARADE ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.
10:15:32AM WE ARE WORKING WITH THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT --
10:15:35AM WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ON THAT REHABILITATION PROGRAM
10:15:39AM AS FAR AS FINDING A WAY TO FUND, AS EAST TAMPA HAS, PUT SOME
10:15:44AM ADDITIONAL FUNDING INTO THAT PROGRAM FOR YBOR RESIDENTS TO
10:15:47AM REHABILITATE THEIR HOMES.
10:15:48AM WE'LL HAVE TO ALLOCATE MONIES AND WE'LL BE COMING TO THE
10:15:53AM BOARD SOON TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FROM ANOTHER LINE ITEM TO THE
10:16:00AM PROGRAM TO MAKE THE FUNDING MORE ROBUST.
10:16:03AM WE'RE HAPPY THAT THE ENTREPRENEUR COLLABORATIVE CENTER IS
10:16:06AM GOING TO ACTUALLY STAY IN YBOR CITY.
10:16:08AM THEY'VE PUT OUT AN RFP RECENTLY TO HAVE DEVELOPERS RESPOND
10:16:13AM TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN REGARD TO BUILDING A NEW CENTER
10:16:18AM FOR THEIR ENTREPRENEUR COLLABORATIVE CENTER.
10:16:20AM THAT ALSO WILL HOUSE THE SHERIFF'S TRAINING CENTER, HISTORY
10:16:24AM AND GENEALOGY LIBRARY, AND THEY ARE POSSIBLY TRYING TO
10:16:28AM INCORPORATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THAT PROJECT.
10:16:31AM SO WE DID PROVIDE SOME DEVELOPER INFORMATION TO HILLSBOROUGH
10:16:34AM COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT SO THAT THOSE WHO ARE FAIRLY
10:16:38AM -- VERY FAMILIAR WITH DEVELOPING IN YBOR AND WORKING WITH
10:16:41AM THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION CAN RESPOND TO THAT RFP.
10:16:46AM SOME OF THE NOTABLE EVENTS, WE DID ACCEPT AT THE 2019
10:16:53AM FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE, WE ACCEPTED A
10:16:57AM STATEWIDE AWARD FOR OUR MARKETING EFFORTS WITH HCP AND
10:17:04AM ASSOCIATES.
10:17:04AM WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED TO WIN THAT STATEWIDE
10:17:11AM AWARD FOR OUR EFFORTS IN ALL THE MARKETING THAT WE DO.
10:17:15AM ALSO, THE SECOND AWARD WE WON FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S
10:17:21AM ANNUAL PLANNING AND DESIGN AWARD FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
10:17:25AM WE STAY VERY CONNECTED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND INFORM THEM
10:17:28AM THROUGH ALL THE COMMUNICATION EFFORTS, LIKE THE LEGEND
10:17:31AM NEWSLETTER I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE FLASH, SO WE STAY VERY
10:17:36AM CONNECTED.
10:17:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS BRENDA LIKE VANNA WHITE, STANDING UP
10:17:43AM THERE --
10:17:44AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:17:47AM >> CHAIRMAN CITRO ATTENDED WITH US THE TPD'S AWARD CEREMONY
10:17:53AM THAT OFFERED A VERY WELL-KNOWN AND RESPECTED YBOR PARTNER
10:17:57AM OFFICER RICHARD MERCADO.
10:17:58AM HE RECEIVED THE EXCELLENT DUTY AWARD.
10:18:00AM WE ARE VERY PROUD OF HIM.
10:18:02AM WE ATTENDED THAT TO SUPPORT HIM.
10:18:05AM SOME OF THE NEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE COME INTO THE DISTRICT
10:18:07AM RECENTLY, TUCKER HALL, CHILL BROTHERS, AN ICE CREAM SHOP.
10:18:13AM DO REALLY INSPIRATIONAL PROJECTS, WHICH IS POTTERY CREATION
10:18:19AM SHOP.
10:18:20AM YBOR BEVERAGE COMPANY AND SUSHI HOUSE ADJACENT TO CENTENNIAL
10:18:23AM PARK IS DOING WELL AND ANNOUNCED THAT THEY EXPANDED TO THE
10:18:28AM CASITA RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEM WITH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
10:18:32AM CONCEPT AND IT'S CALLED THE GARDEN.
10:18:34AM THAT ENDS MY REPORT.
10:18:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'D LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
10:18:40AM I ATTENDED SEVERAL OF THE AWARDS CEREMONIES AND WAS GLAD TO
10:18:45AM BE INVITED TO THEM.
10:18:46AM I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT CHIEF BENNETT HAS COME ABOARD AND DID
10:18:55AM LISTEN TO WHAT I TALKED ABOUT, A PLAN OF ALL THE CRAs
10:18:58AM COMING TOGETHER WITH THE IDEAS.
10:18:59AM BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE IDEAS THAT MR. CONNER JUST PUT,
10:19:03AM MR. ROBINSON, YOU, SOME OF THEM CAME OUT OF THE EAST.
10:19:06AM STARTED IN THE EAST.
10:19:08AM I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE NOW MEETING -- I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN
10:19:13AM WE'RE GOING TO MEET.
10:19:14AM HOPE WE DESIGNATE A TIME TO MEET EVERY TIME TO BRING THE
10:19:19AM IDEAS TO HELP EVERYBODY PROSPER.
10:19:21AM I THINK THAT'S THE KEY.
10:19:23AM ONE NOTABLE THING I DID SEE IS THE TRAINING.
10:19:28AM I THINK THAT'S KEY.
10:19:29AM A LACK OF TRAINING IS NOT HAPPENING WITH THE CAC BOARDS.
10:19:35AM PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ON NEED TO KNOW THE RESPONSIBILITY ON
10:19:38AM THE BOARD.
10:19:39AM THEY NEED TO KNOW THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND HOW
10:19:44AM IT OPERATES.
10:19:45AM I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE DOING THAT.
10:19:47AM THE NEXT PHASE, OR WHATEVER THE -- MAYBE THE CHIEF CAN START
10:19:51AM ORCHESTRATING THAT TO GET IT TOGETHER.
10:19:53AM I THINK THAT'S KEY, SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT THE
10:19:55AM RESPONSIBILITY IS OF A CRA OR CAC BOARD MEMBER.
10:20:00AM I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL.
10:20:01AM I SIT ON THE CAC BOARD.
10:20:05AM I CAN SEE HOW SOMEBODY COMING ON BOARD DOESN'T KNOW THE
10:20:08AM RESPONSIBILITY.
10:20:08AM THEY ARE JUST THERE AND DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT VOTING RIGHTS
10:20:11AM ARE.
10:20:12AM DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU CAN ABSTAIN AND CAN'T ABSTAIN FROM
10:20:15AM A VOTE.
10:20:16AM WHEN YOU CAN DO THIS AND WHEN YOU CAN DO THAT.
10:20:19AM I THINK GOING FORWARD, HOPE THE CHIEF ORCHESTRATE THAT SOON
10:20:22AM TO GET THAT PROCEDURE QUICKLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY
10:20:25AM KEY TO HAVING STRONG CAC BOARDS WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING
10:20:29AM ON AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT
10:20:32AM PROJECTS.
10:20:32AM I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL.
10:20:33AM HOPEFULLY THE CHIEF WILL GET THAT IMPLEMENTED SOON.
10:20:37AM >> IN REGARD TO THE CAC CHAIRS AND MEMBERS OR CRA MANAGERS
10:20:43AM MEETING WHAT WE'RE DOING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
10:20:46AM WE DID IN OCTOBER AND ONE IN EAST TAMPA IN JANUARY.
10:20:49AM WE'LL DO THAT QUARTERLY.
10:20:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:20:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:20:53AM MS. ORR AND MS. THROWER, I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR
10:20:59AM WONDERFUL AWARDS THAT YOU AND THE YCDC HAVE WON.
10:21:04AM I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU.
10:21:05AM AND I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE THERE TO ACCEPT THE
10:21:08AM AWARDS ON BEHALF OF THE CRA BOARD.
10:21:11AM THANK YOU.
10:21:13AM >> YES.
10:21:14AM THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO DID ATTEND WITH US AND TOOK A
10:21:17AM PICTURE ONSTAGE.
10:21:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, ED JOHNSON,
10:21:35AM EAST TAMPA CRA MANAGER.
10:21:38AM OUR REPORT FOR THIS MONTH INCLUDES UNDER DIRECT CRA
10:21:44AM ACTIVITIES THE DEVELOP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REHABILITATION
10:21:50AM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD OTHERS TALK ABOUT
10:21:52AM EARLIER.
10:21:55AM THE CAC APPROVED LEVERAGING FUNDING OF ABOUT HALF A MILLION
10:21:59AM DOLLARS IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
10:22:02AM DEVELOPMENT DIVISION, ALREADY EXISTING HOUSING
10:22:06AM REHABILITATION EXISTING PROGRAM FOR FY 2020.
10:22:11AM THE GOAL HERE IS TO ASSIST APPROXIMATELY 30 INDIVIDUALS AT A
10:22:14AM MAXIMUM $15,000 PER APPLICANT.
10:22:17AM OF COURSE, THE CRA BOARD APPROVED THAT REQUEST LAST MONTH IN
10:22:25AM OCTOBER.
10:22:26AM SECONDLY, WE DEVELOPED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN PAYMENT
10:22:29AM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
10:22:31AM OUR CAC THERE AGAIN APPROVED $400,000 TO CREATE THIS
10:22:36AM PROGRAM, TO ASSIST THE HOME BUYERS EDUCATION ASSISTANCE
10:22:42AM PROGRAM AND HOME BUYERS EDUCATION WORKSHOP COURSE.
10:22:47AM AND THIS PROGRAM FOR US IS VERY -- WE FEEL IS VERY
10:22:51AM INSTRUMENTAL IN KEEPING PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE DECISION TO GO
10:22:55AM TOWARDS HOME OWNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES, BE
10:22:59AM ABLE TO GET THE KIND OF KNOWLEDGE THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES
10:23:02AM ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
10:23:04AM IF THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW.
10:23:06AM AND THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS A 32-HOUR PROGRAM, 16 HOURS
10:23:16AM OF PRE-EDUCATION AND 16 HOURS OF POST-EDUCATION.
10:23:23AM SO WE THINK THAT GOING THROUGH THESE LENGTHIER PROGRAMS
10:23:29AM REALLY SUBMITS WHAT HOME OWNERSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES ARE
10:23:34AM ABOUT.
10:23:35AM NEXT UP ON LINE, THE RFP FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT
10:23:38AM CONCEPTS FOR OUR VACANT INFILL PROPERTIES.
10:23:41AM AS YOU RECALL, THE CAC ISSUED AN RFP SOME MONTHS AGO TO
10:23:46AM THOSE INTERESTED DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS TO PROPOSE
10:23:49AM POTENTIAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS USING THE 26 VACANT
10:23:54AM LOTS, INFILL LOTS.
10:23:56AM UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU
10:24:00AM THIS MORNING, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
10:24:05AM SO THE PROCESS IS GOING TO CONTINUE.
10:24:07AM WE HAD ONE OF OUR MEMBERS THAT MADE THE DECISION TO REMOVE
10:24:13AM HERSELF FROM THE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
10:24:15AM SO WE'RE HAVING TO RETABULATE THE SCORES WITHOUT HER SCORES
10:24:20AM BEING INCLUDED, AND THEN GOING BACK OUT TO ESTABLISHING NEW
10:24:26AM PRESENTATION CONCEPT.
10:24:27AM AND DURING THIS PROCESS, WE'VE ALSO AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING
10:24:32AM TO TAKE PRESENTATIONS FROM ALL TEN PRESENTERS.
10:24:35AM WE HAD TEN PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THIS RFP.
10:24:40AM ORIGINALLY, WE WERE GOING TO SHORT-LIST EIGHT FIRMS.
10:24:43AM WE'RE NOW -- THE DECISION WAS MADE WE'LL GO AND INTERVIEW
10:24:45AM ALL TEN OF THE PRESENTATIONS IN THE FUTURE.
10:24:51AM STAY TUNED TO SEE WHEN WE CAN GET THIS BACK ON TRACK AGAIN
10:24:55AM FOR THE PRESENTATIONS TO TAKE PLACE.
10:24:57AM NEXT UP ON THE LIST IS OUR RFQ FOR OUR EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC
10:25:02AM ACTION PLAN UPDATE.
10:25:05AM THAT RFQ FOR INTERESTED CONSULTANTS TO UPDATE THE STRATEGIC
10:25:11AM ACTION PLAN, THE SUBMITTALS CAME IN IN SEPTEMBER.
10:25:14AM WE HAD FOUR FIRMS THAT WERE SHORT-LISTED.
10:25:17AM THAT PRESENTATION FOR THOSE FOUR SHORT-LISTED FIRMS WILL
10:25:22AM ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE TOMORROW MORNING.
10:25:23AM WE'LL MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AFTER THE
10:25:31AM PRESENTATIONS TOMORROW.
10:25:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. JOHNSON, WHO -- WHO'S SELECTING THOSE
10:25:38AM FIRMS?
10:25:38AM I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG PROCESS.
10:25:41AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S TAKING SO LONG.
10:25:44AM IT'S HERE NOW.
10:25:44AM WHO IS A PART OF SELECTING WHO IS GOING TO BE THE FIRM FOR
10:25:47AM THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN?
10:25:54AM >>ED JOHNSON: THAT'S THROUGH THE CITY CCNA PROCESS.
10:25:56AM THAT IS THE SYSTEM WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
10:25:58AM THERE IS AN INTERNAL COMMITTEE THAT SITS THAT REVIEWED WITH
10:26:04AM PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY.
10:26:06AM WE HAD TWO MEMBERS FROM THE -- FROM OUR EAST TAMPA CRA THAT
10:26:09AM ACTUALLY SAT ON THE REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT MADE
10:26:12AM RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:26:13AM SO NOW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE CCNA
10:26:18AM COMMITTEE, AND THE COMMITTEE MADE DETERMINATION THAT THEY
10:26:21AM WERE GOING TO INTERVIEW THE TOP FOUR RESPONDERS.
10:26:26AM AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TOMORROW MORNING IN
10:26:29AM PERSONAL PRESENTATIONS.
10:26:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:26:33AM >>ED JOHNSON: NEXT UP ON THE LIST IS THE COMMERCIAL FACADE
10:26:37AM GRANT PROGRAM.
10:26:37AM IN EAST TAMPA, WE'VE HAD 27 GRANTS APPROVED FOR A TOTAL OF
10:26:41AM $862,000 IN GRANT FUNDING OVER THE YEARS.
10:26:44AM LEVERAGING A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
10:26:47AM OF COURSE, THAT PROGRAM STARTED IN EAST TAMPA, AGAIN, A LOT
10:26:52AM OF THESE PROGRAMS ACTUALLY GOT THEIR START THAT OTHERS GOT
10:26:58AM THE START IN EAST TAMPA.
10:27:00AM THAT PROGRAM WAS APPROVED IN NOVEMBER OF 2009 AND STILL
10:27:03AM SURVIVING.
10:27:04AM THE NEXT ONE IS NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:27:07AM THE CAC APPROVED LEVERAGING A MILLION DOLLARS IN CONJUNCTION
10:27:13AM WITH TRANSPORTATION STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO DESIGN AND
10:27:15AM RESURFACE STREETS IN THE CYCLE FROM EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE
10:27:19AM SOUTH TO EAST OSBORNE AND FROM NORTH 15th STREET EAST TO
10:27:23AM NORTH 22nd STREET.
10:27:25AM THOSE -- THAT FUNDING WAS APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD IN
10:27:31AM SEPTEMBER OF 2018.
10:27:33AM MY SLIDES ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER --
10:27:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. JOHNSON, BEFORE YOU GO DOWN, I KNOW
10:27:42AM LAST TIME, WE TALKED AT THE LAST CRA BOARD, WE TALKED ABOUT
10:27:45AM THE TREE RFP.
10:27:47AM WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE TREE RFP FOR TREE CUTTING?
10:27:51AM >>ED JOHNSON: THE TREE FOR THE STORMWATER POND?
10:27:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, FOR THE TREES IN GENERAL.
10:27:55AM I THOUGHT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT
10:27:58AM ALLOCATING FUNDS SET ASIDE TO DO TREES.
10:28:01AM WHEN DOES THE PROGRAM START?
10:28:03AM I DON'T SEE IT IN THE PRESENTATION?
10:28:04AM >>ED JOHNSON: THE PERSON THAT WE HAVE THAT MANAGES OUR
10:28:06AM FACADE PROGRAM IS WORKING ON THE LANGUAGE THAT IS GOING TO
10:28:09AM HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU TO BE APPROVED.
10:28:11AM SO IT'S NOT ONLY TREES, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER
10:28:15AM COMPONENTS THAT WERE REQUESTED FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL
10:28:17AM GET ADDED TO THAT.
10:28:18AM THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO YOU NEXT MONTH.
10:28:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT MONTH.
10:28:21AM I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TREES, SO WAITING ON
10:28:24AM THAT.
10:28:24AM THANK YOU.
10:28:25AM >>ED JOHNSON: MY SLIDE IS A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER.
10:28:28AM I'LL GO TO MY NEXT SLIDE FIRST AND THEN COME BACK.
10:28:31AM ACTUALLY, TWO SLIDES.
10:28:32AM STILL UNDER OUR DIRECT INVESTMENTS FROM EAST TAMPA, I WANTED
10:28:38AM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES UNIT.
10:28:43AM THERE'S A LOT OF MISSED INFORMATION THAT GOES ON OUT THERE
10:28:46AM ABOUT WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES DETECTIVE DOES.
10:28:50AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF EXACTLY WHAT TAKES PLACE ON
10:28:54AM HIS AGENDA AT MOST TIMES.
10:28:57AM THE CAC APPROVED FISCAL YEAR '20 BUDGET, $144,000 FOR THE
10:29:03AM ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES PROGRAM, ADDRESSING ILLEGAL DUMPING,
10:29:07AM CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND DEMOLITION OF UNSAFE STRUCTURES WITHIN
10:29:10AM THE CRA BOUNDARY.
10:29:12AM THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT, I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS THINK SOMEBODY
10:29:19AM DOESN'T SERVE TO BE PAID $144,000.
10:29:22AM THAT IS NOT THE PAYROLL FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETECTIVE.
10:29:25AM THAT NUMBER INCLUDES HIS SALARY PLUS BENEFITS, PLUS
10:29:30AM OPERATIONAL DOLLARS FOR EQUIPMENT SUCH AS CAMERAS THAT ARE
10:29:36AM USED FOR OBSERVATION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OPERATION OF
10:29:39AM THE VEHICLE THAT THEY USE, AND ALSO THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT
10:29:44AM INCLUDES THE COST OF FUEL FOR THAT VEHICLE YEARLY.
10:29:48AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE,
10:29:54AM THERE ARE SOME STATISTICS ABOUT THE KIND OF WORK THAT THE
10:29:58AM ENVIRONMENTAL DETECTIVE DOES ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS.
10:30:02AM YOU'LL SEE HIS YEAR-TO-DATE TOTALS THERE.
10:30:05AM THE NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM, 141 TONS OF TRASH AND DEBRIS THAT
10:30:10AM GETS REMOVED FROM THIS COMMUNITY ON A MONTHLY BASIS, THAT'S
10:30:14AM STAGGERING.
10:30:15AM BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF WORK THAT THIS ENVIRONMENTAL
10:30:17AM DETECTIVE DOES IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT
10:30:19AM DEPARTMENT AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAMS.
10:30:23AM I'M GOING TO GO BACK NOW TO THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND GIVE YOU AN
10:30:29AM IDEA, GIVE YOU A LITTLE FLAVOR OF WHAT HAPPENS OUT HERE
10:30:34AM EVERY DAY.
10:30:34AM THE FIRST PICTURE IS ADDRESSED AT 3220 EAST DR. MARTIN
10:30:39AM LUTHER KING BOULEVARD.
10:30:41AM THIS IS A VACANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WAS BOARDED UP AND
10:30:45AM CLOSED.
10:30:46AM THERE IS A PARTIAL FENCE THERE, HERE TO ACCESS TO THE REAR
10:30:50AM OF THE BUILDING FROM THE EAST.
10:30:53AM A HOMELESS CAMP WAS SET UP NEXT TO THE AIR-CONDITIONING
10:30:56AM UNIT.
10:30:57AM THE DEBRIS INCLUDED CARPET, BIKE PARTS, CARDBOARD, CLOTHING,
10:31:02AM ROTTED FOOD AND HUMAN WASTE.
10:31:04AM THAT ENDS UP BEING REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTIES.
10:31:07AM PICTURE NUMBER TWO GOING TO THE RIGHT, THIS IS AT EASTERN
10:31:11AM AVENUE AT EAST PALIFOX STREET.
10:31:15AM A LARGE AMOUNT OF ILLEGALLY DUMPED FURNITURE ALONG THE
10:31:18AM RAILROAD TRACKS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:31:20AM YOU CAN TELL PAT MATERIALS THERE WERE THROWN OUT OF THE
10:31:24AM MOVING VEHICLE ALONG THE ROAD.
10:31:26AM THE LOCATION IS THREE MILES FROM THE MCKAY BAY DUMP WHERE
10:31:31AM MATERIALS COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
10:31:33AM HE'S ESTABLISHED POSTING CAMERAS AT THE LOCATION IN AN
10:31:40AM ATTEMPT TO BE ABLE TO CATCH WHOEVER IS DUMPING THERE.
10:31:43AM PICTURE NUMBER 3, GOING TO THE RIGHT, THIS IS IN GRANT PARK.
10:31:46AM GRANT PARK.
10:31:48AM 10-FOOT-WIDE CITY WIDE ALLEY STARTING AT EAST 32nd AVENUE
10:31:54AM BETWEEN TEMPLE STREET AND NORTH 51st STREET.
10:31:57AM DETECTIVE GLADDER FOLLOWED UP ON A CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT THAT
10:32:04AM THERE WERE HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING IN THE ALLEY AND HAD
10:32:07AM CONTINUOUSLY -- AND CONTINUOUSLY WERE BURNING FIRES BACK IN
10:32:09AM THAT AREA.
10:32:10AM HE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS -- THE AREA WAS SEVERELY
10:32:14AM OVERGROWN AND UPON INVESTIGATION, HE DISCOVERED THEIR CAMP
10:32:18AM ABOUT 75 FEET INTO THE ALLEY.
10:32:20AM THE ALLEY HAS SINCE BEEN CLEANED AND THE CAMP REMOVED.
10:32:23AM PICTURE NUMBER FOUR, THIS IS AT 2923 YBOR STREET.
10:32:29AM DISCOVERED THIS HOME WHILE TRYING TO LOCATE MORE PROPERTIES
10:32:31AM THAT QUALIFIED FOR DEMOLITION.
10:32:34AM THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR YEARS AND IS IN THE ESTATE
10:32:39AM OF A DECEASED OWNER.
10:32:40AM THE OVERGROWTH WAS SO SEVERE, HE HAD TO USE A CHAIN SAW TO
10:32:44AM CUT A PATHWAY TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THE HOME.
10:32:47AM THE ENTIRE BACK HALF OF THE STRUCTURE WAS ROTTED OFF THE
10:32:50AM HOUSE.
10:32:52AM A DEMOLITION CASE WAS STARTED.
10:32:55AM THE PICTURE SHOWS THE KITCHEN AREA OF THIS HOME VISIBLE FROM
10:32:59AM THE BACKYARD AFTER THEY CUT THROUGH THE OVERGROWTH.
10:33:03AM FINALLY, PICTURES FIVE AND SIX, THIS REPRESENTS PROPERTY AT
10:33:08AM 1513 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD.
10:33:12AM THIS HOME IS A BANK-OWNED FORECLOSURE, OWNED BY THE MELON
10:33:16AM BANK OF NEW YORK.
10:33:18AM THERE WERE ENDLESS PILES OF GARBAGE AND FURNITURE STREWN
10:33:21AM ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
10:33:22AM IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT SOMEONE WAS USING THE ELECTRICITY AND
10:33:26AM WATER.
10:33:26AM DETECTIVE GLADDER QUICKLY GOT BOTH SERVICES DISCONNECTED.
10:33:31AM THE PROPERTY WILL BE MONITORED IN THE HOPES OF GETTING THE
10:33:35AM BANK TO RESPOND AND CLEAN THE PROPERTY.
10:33:37AM THERE AGAIN, THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF EXACTLY
10:33:45AM WHAT THIS MAN DOES FOR US EVERY DAY AND HIS RESPONSIBILITY
10:33:48AM TO HELP US ELIMINATE THE BLIGHTED CONDITIONS IN THIS
10:33:51AM COMMUNITY.
10:33:51AM I'LL MOVE ON TO OUR INDIRECT EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE FROM NORTH
10:34:00AM NEBRASKA AVENUE TO NORTH 14th STREET PROJECT.
10:34:02AM THIS IS A CITY CONTRACT AND F.D.O.T. LAP PROJECT.
10:34:08AM IT IS AN APPROXIMATE $2.3 MILLION BIKE LIGHTING SIDEWALK AND
10:34:12AM SAFETY PROJECT WITH SOME STREET TREES BEING ADDED ALONG THE
10:34:16AM CORRIDOR.
10:34:17AM TRANSPORTATION STORMWATER DEPARTMENT RECEIVED 12 RESPONSES
10:34:20AM TO THIS RFP AND CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED AND SCORED.
10:34:24AM THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION.
10:34:25AM NO, IT DOESN'T.
10:34:29AM NOTABLE EVENTS.
10:34:30AM ALWAYS HAVE THE NOTABLE EVENTS.
10:34:32AM THE MAYOR HAD HER FIRST RENDITION OF ART ON THE BLOCK
10:34:43AM PROJECT, WHICH WAS DONE IN AL BARNES PARK ON HALLOWEEN DAY.
10:34:50AM THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE MURAL THAT WAS PAINTED ON THE
10:34:53AM RACQUETBALL COURTS AT AL BARNES PARK AND SOME OF THE FOLKS
10:34:57AM THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE ARE DISPLAYED THERE.
10:35:00AM AND THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY
10:35:06AM QUESTIONS.
10:35:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:35:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.
10:35:10AM I NOTICED IN THE PICTURE, WE WERE GRACED WITH FORMER MAYOR
10:35:13AM IORIO, WHO I BELIEVE COACH BARNES WAS HER COACH OUT THERE I
10:35:19AM THINK AT KING HIGH.
10:35:20AM >>ED JOHNSON: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:35:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE HAD THAT PARK NAMED IN HIS HONOR.
10:35:23AM WE'RE GLAD TO SEE MAYOR IORIO.
10:35:26AM SUBSTANTIVELY, SO I HAD A QUESTION IN REGARD TO THIS RFP.
10:35:34AM WE'RE DOWN TO 8 FIRMS.
10:35:37AM THIS IS THE RFP FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON 26 VACANT
10:35:40AM INFILL PROPERTIES.
10:35:41AM SO WE'RE DOWN TO 8 FIRMS MAKING PRESENTATIONS, I GUESS THAT
10:35:46AM HAPPENED YESTERDAY.
10:35:47AM >>ED JOHNSON: NO, NO.
10:35:48AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
10:35:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:35:51AM >>ED JOHNSON: THAT WAS CANCELED.
10:35:52AM WE'LL END UP INTERVIEWING ALL TEN.
10:35:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT MY QUESTION IS STRUCTURALLY AND I'M
10:35:58AM SORT OF ASKING COUNCIL THIS QUESTION A LITTLE BIT.
10:36:05AM TRADITIONALLY, THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND GET DOWN TO ONE
10:36:07AM RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THAT ONE RECOMMENDATION WOULD COME
10:36:12AM TO THIS BOARD AND BE A YEA OR NAY.
10:36:16AM I'M JUST WONDERING, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, BUT JUST
10:36:22AM WONDERING IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE.
10:36:25AM OR, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, PERHAPS THAT THE CAC AND THE
10:36:30AM ADMINISTRATION STAFF WOULD NARROW IT DOWN TO PERHAPS THREE
10:36:36AM PROPOSITIONS AND THEN THOSE THREE PROPOSITIONS COULD BE
10:36:39AM PRESENTED TO US AND WE COULD BE A LITTLE MORE HANDS-ON
10:36:43AM INVOLVED.
10:36:43AM I THINK MS. ZELMAN WOULD PROBABLY AGREE THAT WE HAVE THE
10:36:51AM LATITUDE AND ABILITY TO DO THAT, ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T ASKED
10:36:55AM HER IN ADVANCE.
10:36:56AM BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT -- WE'VE TALKED
10:37:00AM ABOUT BEING MORE INVOLVED IN MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
10:37:04AM I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE THE DECISIONS AWAY FROM THE CAC, BUT
10:37:08AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE CAC CAN SAY THIS IS OUR RANKING, ONE,
10:37:12AM TWO, AND THREE, BUT THEN AT LEAST IT MIGHT COME TO US WITH A
10:37:18AM LITTLE MORE LATITUDE AS OPPOSED TO JUST YEA AND NAY.
10:37:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:37:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:37:25AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY POLICY IS.
10:37:26AM I ASSUME THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN RFP GO OUT, INDIVIDUAL
10:37:29AM COMPANIES, ALL INDIVIDUALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A PROPOSAL
10:37:33AM OR NOT MAKE A LONG PROCESS WHERE THEY HAVE TO GRADE THEM.
10:37:37AM AND THIS IS -- THERE IS AN ESTIMATE THAT THE CITY PUTS UP ON
10:37:41AM A JOB, AND THEN THEY WILL WORK FROM THERE.
10:37:43AM SO THEN, WHEN YOU DO THAT, IT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS IN THE
10:37:46AM CITY, AND YOU HAVE VARIOUS THINGS, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO
10:37:50AM BE THE BEST PRICE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE THE BEST PREPARED.
10:37:52AM GOT TO HAVE THE BEST EQUIPMENT.
10:37:54AM GOT TO HAVE THE PERSONNEL.
10:37:55AM GOT TO HAVE A LOT MORE.
10:37:57AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. DINGFELDER IS TRYING TO SAY OR SAID,
10:38:00AM BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT I'M PERSONALLY GOING TO GO AWAY
10:38:04AM FROM WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AND CREATE A
10:38:06AM DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN ONLY SEE
10:38:09AM THREE.
10:38:10AM BUT I WANT TO SEE THE FINAL CERTAINLY WHEN THE CITY DOES
10:38:14AM SOMETHING, THEY GET THE TOP THREE, AND THEY GIVE YOU A
10:38:17AM SCORECARD ON EVERYTHING THAT COMES UP TO THE BUDGET.
10:38:19AM AND THEY PUT THE ESTIMATE FROM THE CITY, THE ESTIMATE THEY
10:38:22AM RECEIVED, THE DATE IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED, THE EQUIPMENT
10:38:25AM THEY HAVE, AND SOMETIMES EVEN ALL THE EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE.
10:38:28AM AND THEY HAVE TO MEET THE CERTAIN CRITERIA.
10:38:31AM WHY SHOULD WE CHANGE AND GO TO THREE, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY
10:38:34AM GIVES US THREE, THEY RECOMMEND ONE.
10:38:36AM I WON'T BE OPPOSED TO THAT.
10:38:39AM THEY RECOMMEND ONE BASED ON THE CRITERIA OF WHAT THEY FOUND
10:38:42AM OUT THROUGH THEIR OWN INVESTIGATORY THINGS OF BIDDING
10:38:49AM THROUGH A CONTRACT.
10:38:50AM I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO THAT BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE ON
10:38:53AM HAND, ON THE JOB.
10:38:54AM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE COMMITTEES AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO
10:38:57AM DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND FOLLOW THE DIRECTION, JUST LIKE
10:38:59AM THE STATE DOES, JUST LIKE THE COUNTY DOES.
10:39:02AM I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD CHANGE IT.
10:39:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ZELMAN.
10:39:05AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I MAY, I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON PROCUREMENT
10:39:10AM LAW.
10:39:10AM MARCY HAMILTON IN OUR OFFICE IS.
10:39:12AM BUT THE PROCUREMENTS THAT THE CRAs UNDERTAKE HAVE TO
10:39:17AM FOLLOW THE SAME LAW AND POLICIES THAT ANY OTHER PROCUREMENT
10:39:22AM IN THE CITY DOES.
10:39:23AM SO BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN THIS PATH, I WOULD LIKE TO
10:39:27AM CHECK WITH MARCY TO EVEN ASK THE QUESTION WHETHER WHAT
10:39:32AM COUNCILMAN -- BOARD MEMBER DINGFELDER IS PROPOSING WOULD
10:39:35AM EVEN BE ALLOWED UNDER THE APPLICABLE STATUTES AND POLICIES.
10:39:42AM >>ED JOHNSON: IF I COULD ALSO ADD, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE,
10:39:46AM IN ITS EVALUATION PROCESS, BEFORE THEY EVEN MADE THE
10:39:51AM DECISION TO PUT THIS RFP ON THE STREET, THEY WANTED TO HAVE
10:39:56AM THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS
10:40:00AM THAT COME FORWARD AND TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON
10:40:05AM WHAT ENTITY GETS WHAT PROPERTIES.
10:40:08AM SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE COULD BE A VERY GREAT PROJECT IDEA
10:40:14AM FOR FIVE OF THOSE PROPERTIES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS
10:40:19AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS LOOKING TO HAVE HAPPEN IN ITS
10:40:22AM COMMUNITY.
10:40:23AM THEY MIGHT WANT TO SELECT THAT ENTITY JUST FOR THOSE FIVE
10:40:26AM PARTICULAR PROPERTIES, NOT ALL 25 AT ONE TIME.
10:40:29AM SO THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO -- THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
10:40:33AM THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR SELECTION CRITERIA.
10:40:36AM BY GOING THROUGH AND INTERVIEWING ALL TEN OF THESE PROPOSED
10:40:40AM PROJECTS, THEY COULD COME UP WITH THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE
10:40:43AM DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COMPANY A HAS THE BEST IDEAS
10:40:49AM SURROUNDING THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THIS
10:40:52AM VICINITY.
10:40:53AM AND THEN SELECT ANOTHER ENTITY TO TAKE ANOTHER GROUP OF
10:40:57AM PROPERTIES.
10:40:58AM SEE WHAT I'M GETTING AT?
10:40:59AM THEY WANTED THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY.
10:41:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, TWO THINGS.
10:41:02AM LET ME CLARIFY.
10:41:03AM THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON MR. JOHNSON'S REPORT.
10:41:07AM I'M ONLY SPEAKING TO THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS THE RFP FOR THE
10:41:10AM MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT.
10:41:12AM MR. MIRANDA, I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY.
10:41:15AM THE NEXT ITEM SAYS AS RELATED TO THE CAC RFQ, FOUR FIRMS
10:41:22AM SHORT-LISTED BY THE CCNA COMMITTEE.
10:41:25AM THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
10:41:27AM THAT ONE I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:41:28AM WHEN THEY ARE DOING THAT EVALUATION FOR THE CCNA, YOU KNOW,
10:41:32AM THAT'S MUCH MORE COMPLEX IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTS AND
10:41:36AM ENGINEERS.
10:41:37AM I'M NOT TRYING TO STICK OUR NOSE INTO THAT ONE.
10:41:39AM THE RFP IS A LITTLE BIT LOOSER IN TERMS OF LIKE COMPANY A
10:41:44AM MIGHT SAY, WE WANT TO BUILD 50 HOMES AND COMPANY B MIGHT
10:41:48AM SAY, WE WANT TO BUILD A GROCERY STORE AND 20 HOMES.
10:41:52AM YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING.
10:41:53AM THAT'S SORT OF -- ULTIMATELY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A POLICY
10:41:59AM DECISION THAT, AGAIN, I RESPECT THE CAC TREMENDOUSLY.
10:42:05AM I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THEIR ROLE, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING
10:42:08AM IS ULTIMATELY, IF WE ONLY HAVE A YEA OR NAY ON WHAT THE CAC
10:42:12AM IS RECOMMENDING, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT POLICY MAKING
10:42:16AM AWAY FROM US.
10:42:18AM JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
10:42:21AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT A LATER DATE.
10:42:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:42:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. ZELMAN, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE RESEARCH
10:42:27AM ON PURCHASING, AGAIN I'M NEW TO ALL THIS.
10:42:30AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN PURCHASING, ESPECIALLY ABOVE A
10:42:33AM CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THERE IS AN AD HOC PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE
10:42:35AM THAT MEETS.
10:42:36AM I WONDER IF THE CAC IS SITTING AS A PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE OR
10:42:42AM WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IN THIS PROCESS AND IF THEY ARE
10:42:44AM FOLLOWING THE RULES OF PROCUREMENT IN DOING THAT JUST SO WE
10:42:48AM CAN UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS.
10:42:49AM BUT THEN TO MR. DINGFELDER'S POINT, I WOULD NOT WANT FOR US
10:42:57AM TO OPEN UP ALL RFPs FOR THIS, BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING
10:43:01AM ABOVE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD OR SOMETHING THAT MEETS A CERTAIN
10:43:04AM CRITERIA, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR PROPOSAL AT SOME POINT.
10:43:08AM MAYBE WE COULD GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON ON
10:43:11AM STRATEGY.
10:43:12AM BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW
10:43:15AM SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE HANDLED, AND MAYBE THE ISSUE IS
10:43:18AM HANDLING AT PROCUREMENT INSTEAD OF BEFORE US.
10:43:23AM BUT IF YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT.
10:43:25AM THE OTHER THING IS, THE RFP PROCESS, MAYBE -- AND I THINK
10:43:30AM YOU'VE RECOMMENDED THIS BEFORE, BUT MAYBE AGAIN, WITH A
10:43:33AM CERTAIN THRESHOLD OF RFP, MAYBE WE COULD REVIEW THE RFP
10:43:37AM PROCESS AND THEN APPROVE THAT BEFORE IT GOES OUT ALSO,
10:43:40AM BECAUSE ONCE WE SET THE CRITERIA, TO FOLLOW THE LAW, I THINK
10:43:44AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SUBJECTIVITY IN HOW THE
10:43:47AM COMPANIES ARE CHOSEN.
10:43:49AM IF WE CAN HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS, JUST THROWING OUT
10:43:51AM ADDITIONAL IDEAS.
10:43:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:43:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRINGS UP A POINT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL
10:43:56AM ALONG.
10:43:56AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE CONTRACTS, THE RFP IS THE PRIME
10:44:03AM SOURCE.
10:44:04AM IT'S WHAT'S PUT INTO THE RFP THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE
10:44:08AM DIVERSITY OF THE CONTRACT, THOSE NUMBERS.
10:44:11AM AND I THINK WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, AND IT'S SOMETHING MY
10:44:15AM OFFICE IS LOOKING AT, I THINK DOWN THE ROAD, WE NEED TO LOOK
10:44:18AM AT REVIEWING THOSE RFPs BEFORE THEY EVEN GO OUT ANYWHERE
10:44:23AM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS TO HAVE IN
10:44:27AM THERE IS IN THERE VERSUS ISSUES BEING WRITTEN BY SOMEONE,
10:44:30AM GOING SOMEWHERE AND IT GOES THROUGH AND COME BACK AND HEAR
10:44:33AM COMPLAINTS ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DIVERSITY HERE.
10:44:35AM WE DON'T HAVE THIS.
10:44:36AM SOMEONE KEEPS GETTING THE SAME CONTRACT.
10:44:38AM VERSUS, WHERE YOU HAVE A CONTRACT, MIGHT GO TO THE BOTTOM OF
10:44:41AM THE LIST AND NOW TIME FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET A BIG
10:44:45AM CONTRACT.
10:44:45AM AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS
10:44:48AM TO SEE HOW THE CONTRACTS ARE BEING GIVEN OUT AND HAVE A
10:44:51AM STRUCTURE LIKE OTHER CITIES DO SO IT'S A FAIR STRUCTURE.
10:44:54AM I AGREE IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE RFPs
10:44:58AM BEFORE THEY GO OUT ANYWHERE.
10:44:59AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I CAN REMIND THE BOARD, WE DID FIND --
10:45:02AM THERE IS LANGUAGE IN YOUR SERVICE AGREEMENT WHERE ANY RFP
10:45:06AM THAT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF TIF FUNDS,
10:45:10AM THIS BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO REVIEW IT BEFORE IT'S ISSUED.
10:45:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
10:45:16AM MR. JOHNSON.
10:45:18AM >>ED JOHNSON: WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:45:19AM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CONNER TO DO DOWNTOWN.
10:45:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MR. CONNER, CHIEF, HOW
10:45:28AM MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE DEVOTED TO THIS BOARD?
10:45:32AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I'M SORRY.
10:45:32AM COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
10:45:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE DEVOTED TO THIS
10:45:36AM BOARD FOR THIS MEETING?
10:45:37AM >>JOHN BENNETT: TODAY?
10:45:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
10:45:39AM >>JOHN BENNETT: AS LONG AS YOU NEED.
10:45:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:45:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
10:45:42AM BOARD, WITHOUT OBJECTION, I'D LIKE TO PAUSE HERE AND OPEN IT
10:45:47AM UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:45:50AM CAN WE DO THAT?
10:45:51AM IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
10:45:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:45:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, GO AHEAD.
10:45:54AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:56AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:45:57AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:45:58AM IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, CHIEF?
10:46:01AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT WE HAVE
10:46:04AM NUMEROUS STAFF MEMBERS HERE AS WELL.
10:46:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:46:07AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU WERE DEVOTING TO
10:46:10AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:46:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I SEE HANDS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE SPEAKING
10:46:13AM TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:46:14AM WOW.
10:46:15AM CAN WE LIMIT -- AND I ASKED YOU THIS, CAN WE LIMIT YOUR
10:46:21AM COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES SO THAT WE MAY HEAR YOUR VOICES AND
10:46:24AM THAT YOU CAN GO ON TO YOUR DAILY BUSINESS, WOULD THAT BE
10:46:26AM FINE?
10:46:27AM JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS IF THAT WILL BE FINE.
10:46:29AM THEN FINE, WE WILL GO BACK TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:46:36AM GO AHEAD, MR. CONNER, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK FOR
10:46:42AM DOWNTOWN?
10:46:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FRIENDLY POINT OF ORDER, THIS BODY AND
10:46:57AM CITY COUNCIL AS WELL HAS A HISTORY THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE
10:47:00AM HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE AND WE WANT TO MOVE THINGS ALONG, WE
10:47:03AM DO LIMIT IT TO TWO MINUTES.
10:47:05AM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION -- PEOPLE WILL NOT BE HAPPY --
10:47:07AM MAKE A MOTION TO LIMIT IT TO TWO MINUTES.
10:47:09AM LET'S DO IT NOW AND TRY AND WORK THAT OUT.
10:47:12AM THAT'S MY MOTION.
10:47:13AM TWO MINUTES PER PERSON.
10:47:14AM ANY SECOND?
10:47:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
10:47:20AM DINGFELDER.
10:47:21AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:47:22AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:47:23AM ALL OPPOSED?
10:47:25AM LET'S HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
10:47:29AM ALL SAYING AYE.
10:47:31AM SAYING NAY.
10:47:35AM MR. CONNER.
10:47:39AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION DID NOT CARRY WITH GUDES -- MAY I
10:47:44AM TAKE A ROLL CALL, VOTE, SIR, FOR THE RECORD?
10:47:46AM ROLL CALL.
10:47:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:47:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NAY.
10:47:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:47:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:47:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NAY.
10:47:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:48:02AM >> AND CARLSON.
10:48:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:48:07AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION DID NOT CARRY WITH GUDES,
10:48:09AM MANISCALCO, CITRO AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:48:15AM THANK YOU.
10:48:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:48:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'RE WELCOME.
10:48:17AM CHIEF BENNETT.
10:48:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST A POINT OF CLARITY FOR ME AND STAFF,
10:48:21AM WAS THE MOTION FOR TWO MINUTES MADE SO YOU COULD BRING THE
10:48:24AM PUBLIC UP FIRST?
10:48:25AM WAS THAT THE INTENTION?
10:48:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, BUT THE MOTION WAS DENIED.
10:48:28AM MR. CONNER, PLEASE.
10:48:31AM >> I HAVE A PRESENTATION, MALCOLM KINER, CRA STAFF, STANDING
10:48:35AM IN FOR MR. ROSNER.
10:48:37AM MY CUBE IS NEXT TO HIS.
10:48:40AM I GUESS THAT QUALIFIES ME TO PRESENT HIS AREAS.
10:48:43AM FIRST IN DOWNTOWN, HERMAN MASSEY PARK REHABILITATION, CITY
10:48:47AM STAFF AND CITY OFFICIALS HAVE MET WITH THE OWNER AND
10:48:50AM REPRESENTATIVE OF 214 EAST TYLER TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL
10:48:53AM FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A RESTAURANT ADJACENT TO HERMAN MASSEY
10:48:56AM PARK.
10:48:56AM MR. ROSNER WILL BE PRESENTING A FORMAL UPDATE ON THIS ITEM
10:49:04AM AT YOUR SEPTEMBER CRA MEETING.
10:49:06AM THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER RENOVATIONS, REDEVELOPMENT OF
10:49:10AM EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THE SAIL PLAZA AND BIG RAYS
10:49:14AM FISH CAMP RECEIVED A CHAIRMAN'S AWARD FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH
10:49:16AM COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:49:16AM I BELIEVE WE HAD FOUR CRA MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE AWARD
10:49:22AM CEREMONY.
10:49:22AM MOVING ON TO INDIRECT CRA ACTIVITIES, MODERA TAMPA, THE
10:49:38AM MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER HAS STARTED THE
10:49:41AM MOBILIZATION AND LANE CLOSURE.
10:49:43AM ON TYLER, NEAR THE TIMES BUILDING.
10:49:46AM THE TYLER RESIDENCES, WHICH IS I BELIEVE A STUDENT HOUSING
10:49:49AM DEVELOPMENT, HELD THEIR GROUND BREAKING YESTERDAY.
10:49:52AM RIVERWALK PLACE, FORMERLY RIVERWALK TOWER, IS COMPLETING THE
10:49:56AM DEMOLITION OF THE CAP TRUST BUILDING ALONG ASHLEY.
10:50:02AM AER TOWER, THAT DEVELOPER HAS BEGUN PREPARING THE SITE AND
10:50:07AM PREPARING FOR THE DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF THE PEDESTRIAN
10:50:09AM BRIDGE I BELIEVE IN THE COMING WEEKS.
10:50:11AM NOTABLE EVENTS, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION SO IT'S
10:50:17AM NOT QUITE UP TO DATE, BUT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HELD ITS
10:50:20AM ANNUAL URBAN EXCELLENCE AWARDS, HARPOON HARRY'S AND THE
10:50:24AM TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, THE SAIL PLAZA AND BIG RAY FISH
10:50:28AM CAMP WERE NOMINATED FOR THE AWARD BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DID
10:50:32AM NOT WIN.
10:50:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BACK TO DOWNTOWN.
10:50:42AM I ASKED MR. ROSNER LAST TIME WHEN HE WAS COMING BACK FOR
10:50:45AM THIS PARTICULAR MEETING TO GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON KID MASON.
10:50:50AM >> I BELIEVE THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA.
10:50:52AM WE HAVE FOLKS FROM THE PARK STAFF HERE TO PROVIDE THAT
10:50:55AM UPDATE.
10:50:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
10:50:56AM THANK YOU.
10:50:57AM I DIDN'T SEE IT.
10:50:58AM I'M SORRY.
10:50:58AM AH, THERE IT IS.
10:51:00AM >> MOVING FORWARD TO CHANNEL DISTRICT AND CRA ACTIVITIES,
10:51:04AM THE DESIGN CONSULTANT HAS COMPLETED THE 60% CONSTRUCTION
10:51:08AM PLANS DUE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
10:51:10AM THIS IS A PROJECT PHASING FROM PHASE A-1 TO PHASE E-3.
10:51:15AM PHASES A-1 AND A-2 ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT
10:51:18AM NOW IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:51:20AM PHASES B THROUGH E-3 ARE IN SOME FORM OF THE DESIGN PHASE
10:51:24AM CURRENTLY.
10:51:24AM MOVING ON TO OTHER DIRECT ACTIVITIES, MADISON STREET PARK,
10:51:30AM THAT'S THE PARK THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE NEW PUBLIX.
10:51:33AM CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PARK IS ABOUT 35% COMPLETE.
10:51:36AM THIS WILL BE A COMBINATION DOG/PEOPLE PARK WITH MULTIUSE
10:51:40AM ACTIVITY SPACE.
10:51:41AM INDIRECT CRA ACTIVITIES, SPP IS NEARING THE COMPLETION OF
10:51:45AM THE RENOVATIONS OF THEIR LARGE BUILDING THERE.
10:51:48AM SPP ALSO RECEIVED A CHAIRMAN'S AWARD FROM THE PLANNING
10:51:51AM COMMISSION FOR THEIR WORK AT SPARKMAN'S WHARF.
10:51:56AM A LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP IS PLANNING A TREE LIGHTING EVENT
10:52:00AM ON WASHINGTON STREET PARK.
10:52:01AM STAFF WILL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THE DATES OF THAT EVENT.
10:52:04AM MOVING ON TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:52:05AM I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THIS AGENDA TODAY, THE CAC IN TAMPA
10:52:10AM HEIGHTS VOTED TO RECOMMEND THE CREATION OF A SPECIAL EVENT
10:52:13AM COSPONSORSHIP PROGRAM TO HELP WITH THE PROGRAMMING OF WATER
10:52:16AM WORKS PARK AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL
10:52:20AM RIVERFRONT OR RIVERWALK EVENTS.
10:52:22AM INDIRECT ACTIVITIES, SOHO CAPITAL ANNOUNCED THAT MOXIE WILL
10:52:28AM BE THEIR SIGNATURE HOME FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
10:52:31AM THIS IS A MARRIOTT BRAND, AS WELL AS A SPROUTS GROCERY STORE
10:52:35AM WILL BE INCLUDED IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
10:52:37AM NOTABLE EVENTS, THE HEIGHTS MARKET, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
10:52:41AM MONTHS, OPENED A NEW ROOFTOP BAR AS WELL AS A NEW
10:52:44AM RESTAURANT, STONE'S THROW AT THE NORTH END OF WATER WORKS
10:52:47AM PARK.
10:52:48AM LASTLY, MOVING ON TO CENTRAL PARK, THE CAC THERE IN CENTRAL
10:52:52AM PARK HAS VOTED TO SUPPORT AN ALLOCATION OF UP TO 20,000
10:52:58AM TOWARD THE PROGRAMMING OF A NEW COMMUNITY GARDEN.
10:53:00AM WE HAVE MR. LEROY MOORE HERE THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE AN
10:53:04AM UPDATE ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTY, SO HE MAY ANSWER
10:53:06AM ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT.
10:53:08AM THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT,
10:53:11AM THEY HAVE SUBMITTED AN INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW OF A
10:53:15AM NEW RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WITH 282 UNITS, AGAIN ON LOT 9.
10:53:19AM AND MR. MOORE IS HERE TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
10:53:22AM HAVE.
10:53:22AM THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
10:53:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:53:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CONNER.
10:53:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE VAN LOAN, ECONOMIC URBAN
10:53:35AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:53:36AM IF WE CAN HAVE THE PowerPoint UP FOR THE LAST SLIDE.
10:53:38AM I'M JUST HERE THIS MORNING.
10:53:40AM SORRY I'M EMPTY-HANDED.
10:53:42AM I DON'T HAVE AN AWARD TO BRING YOU.
10:53:43AM WE WANTED TO UPDATE YOU.
10:53:46AM WE PASSED THE BUDGET OR YOU ALL PASSED OUR BUDGET A COUPLE
10:53:48AM OF MONTHS AGO, AND THE PORT ALWAYS ADOPTS AND APPROVES THEIR
10:53:53AM MILLAGE AFTER WE ALREADY APPROVED OUR BUDGET, SO WE ALWAYS
10:53:56AM COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT THAT SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT IS BASED
10:53:59AM ON THEIR FINAL MILLAGE.
10:54:00AM THE PORT DID DECREASE THEIR MILLAGE FROM .1150 TO .1050.
10:54:06AM SO IT DID HAVE ABOUT A TENTH OF A PERCENT EFFECT ON THE
10:54:10AM OVERALL BUDGET.
10:54:11AM WE DID GO FROM 33,421,597 TO ABOUT 33,421,056.
10:54:18AM THE CHANGE IS JUST A LITTLE OVER $40,000.
10:54:21AM SO THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU AS CITY COUNCIL ON
10:54:24AM NOVEMBER 21st TO DO THE OFFICIAL BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AS PART
10:54:28AM OF YOUR CITY BUDGET.
10:54:30AM ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
10:54:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. VAN LOAN.
10:54:33AM MS. VAN LOAN, YOU NEEDED AN EXTRA SECOND OR TWO.
10:54:37AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES, I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE ABOUT
10:54:40AM 90 SECONDS.
10:54:41AM I DID WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
10:54:43AM I JOINED THE EAST TAMPA CRA ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO.
10:54:46AM AND DURING THAT TIME, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SAL TERRITO AS A
10:54:51AM VITAL PART OF OUR SUCCESS IN CRAs AND ENSURING THAT WE MET
10:54:55AM A HIGH LEVEL OF STANDARD AND REALLY SET OUR BAR TO BE AN
10:54:57AM EXAMPLE OF WHAT WELL-RUN CRAs ARE LIKE.
10:55:00AM DURING THESE YEARS, SAL HAS BEEN MY CRA ATTORNEY, MY
10:55:03AM PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL ADVISOR AND A CLOSE FRIEND AS HE
10:55:06AM ALSO, PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT ME SAYING THIS PUBLICLY, BUT HE
10:55:10AM PERFORMED MY MARRIAGE CEREMONY LAST YEAR WHEN I GOT MARRIED.
10:55:12AM SO I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK SAL TERRITO FOR ALL HE HAS DONE
10:55:18AM ON BEHALF OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND ON BEHALF OF ME PERSONALLY
10:55:20AM AND AGAIN THANK YOU.
10:55:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL SAID, MS. VAN LOAN.
10:55:23AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:55:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A FUN FACT ABOUT SAL YOU MAY NOT
10:55:27AM KNOW.
10:55:27AM HE'LL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
10:55:29AM I THINK WHEN HE WAS UP IN NEW YORK FROM HIS WINDOW, HE
10:55:33AM WATCHED SOME SCENES BEING FILMED FROM WESTSIDE STORY FROM
10:55:35AM THE MOVIE IN 1961.
10:55:37AM SO THAT'S COOL.
10:55:39AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK TO HIM AT
10:55:41AM LUNCH ABOUT.
10:55:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. VAN LOAN.
10:55:43AM ALL RIGHT.
10:55:46AM WHO'S NEXT?
10:55:47AM DOES THAT CONCLUDE IT?
10:55:54AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S THE REPORTS.
10:55:55AM NOW WE'RE UP TO STAFF REPORTS, ITEM 3.
10:55:57AM FAIR OAKS.
10:56:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, PAUL DIAL, PARKS AND RECREATION.
10:56:09AM COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY, I UNDERSTAND AT A PRIOR MEETING
10:56:14AM THERE WAS CONCERN RELATED TO POTENTIAL OF RODENTS AT FAIR
10:56:19AM OAKS PARK.
10:56:19AM I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE LOOKED INTO THAT IMMEDIATELY.
10:56:23AM WE TAKE THAT VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.
10:56:24AM THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE USERS OF OUR FACILITIES.
10:56:27AM WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE THAT WAS CAPTURED ALMOST TWO MONTHS AGO.
10:56:35AM NO INCIDENCES SINCE THEN.
10:56:36AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE FACTUALLY WHERE WE WERE.
10:56:39AM BUT THE STEPS WE'VE ALSO TAKEN WITH THIS IS WE HAVE A PEST
10:56:43AM CONTROL THAT IS THERE THAT DOES -- TREATS THE SITE MONTHLY.
10:56:50AM WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM.
10:56:51AM WE ALSO WENT WITH OUR FORESTRY FOLKS TO TRIM ANY TREES
10:56:56AM AROUND THE BUILDING TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE POTENTIAL OF
10:57:00AM ANY CLIMBING ONTO THE ROOF FROM THERE AND ENTRY.
10:57:03AM WE'VE ALSO COUNSELED OUR STAFF REGARDING PROPER USE OF TRASH
10:57:11AM AND FOOD STORAGE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AT THE FACILITY, AND
10:57:15AM UNDER LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, THE FACILITY
10:57:19AM MANAGEMENT STAFF HAS SURVEYED THE PARK FOR ANY POSSIBLE
10:57:23AM ACCESS POINTS AT THE SITE.
10:57:29AM ALSO, WE'RE TRYING AN ULTRASONIC SOUND DETERRENT AS WELL,
10:57:31AM TRYING IT AT THE SITE TO SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL WE ARE WITH
10:57:34AM THAT.
10:57:34AM WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND ASSURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE
10:57:37AM ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR USERS.
10:57:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DIAL?
10:57:40AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:57:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. DIAL, FOR YOUR WORK.
10:57:44AM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MOTION PUT ON THE FLOOR FOR DECEMBER
10:57:48AM TO COME BACK WITH A TOTAL ASSESSMENT OF FAIR OAKS PARK IN
10:57:54AM DECEMBER.
10:57:55AM >>PAUL DIAL: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
10:57:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
10:57:58AM >>PAUL DIAL: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:57:59AM I BELIEVE THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 12th.
10:58:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:58:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:58:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A REQUEST BECAUSE DURING PUBLIC
10:58:05AM COMMENT, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MENTIONED THIS ISSUE,
10:58:08AM AND SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE ON IT AND FOR
10:58:11AM MONITORING IT.
10:58:11AM >>PAUL DIAL: THANK YOU.
10:58:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:58:14AM MR. DIAL, DON'T GO AWAY.
10:58:15AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COUNCILMEN WHO WILL
10:58:19AM BE DOING CALLINGS FOR SANTA CLAUS.
10:58:23AM >>PAUL DIAL: I HEARD THAT, YES.
10:58:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT PROGRAM THAT
10:58:28AM YOU ARE DOING.
10:58:29AM I BELIEVE A COUPLE OF US WILL HAVE TO GET WIGS AND SOME
10:58:32AM WHITE BEARDS, BUT I CHALLENGE ANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL
10:58:36AM MEMBERS TO JOIN IN ON THIS PROGRAM.
10:58:37AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:58:39AM >>PAUL DIAL: THANK YOU.
10:58:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: STUFF A PILLOW IN YOUR SHIRT.
10:58:43AM YOU'LL HAVE THAT JOLLY ST. NICK LOOK.
10:58:46AM WE HAVE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT WILL GIVE US A REPORT.
10:59:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:59:05AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
10:59:17AM LEROY MOORE, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, HERE TO GIVE YOU AN
10:59:20AM UPDATE ON TWO OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN
10:59:22AM THE CITY OF TAMPA CRA DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY THE CENTRAL
10:59:25AM PART CRA AND THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:59:28AM I HAVE A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU.
10:59:31AM I WILL USE THE PROJECTOR HERE.
10:59:35AM MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT HAVING THIS ELECTRONICALLY, YOU ALL
10:59:43AM HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU.
10:59:44AM ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES ARE SPREAD FAIRLY EVENLY THROUGHOUT
10:59:49AM THE CITY.
10:59:49AM I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ON WHAT'S ENUMERATED
10:59:53AM THERE AS NUMBER 3 AND NUMBER 4 AND NUMBER 1.
10:59:55AM THAT'S OUR ENCORE DEVELOPMENT AND OUR WEST TAMPA
10:59:59AM REDEVELOPMENT.
11:00:00AM THESE ARE THE TWO SITES, AS THEY SIT IN THE CITY.
11:00:03AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY STRADDLE THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:00:07AM ENCORE TAMPA, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR 9
11:00:12AM YEARS.
11:00:12AM IT IS A 12 CITY BLOCK REDEVELOPMENT IN WEST RIVER, WHICH IS
11:00:15AM PART OF A 150-ACRE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WE'RE IN
11:00:18AM PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND RELATED AND BANK OF AMERICA
11:00:22AM ON.
11:00:23AM GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS.
11:00:25AM OF COURSE, THIS IS WHAT CENTRAL PARK LOOKED LIKE JUST 13 OR
11:00:30AM SO YEARS AGO, BEFORE WE STARTED THE RELOCATION.
11:00:32AM CENTRAL PARK WAS 80 YEARS OLD WHEN WE TORE IT DOWN.
11:00:37AM IT WAS 483 UNITS.
11:00:38AM WE RELOCATED THE FAMILIES IN 2006 TO 2008 AND STARTED
11:00:42AM DEVELOPMENT IN 2009.
11:00:44AM THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
11:00:47AM WELL, A YEAR OR SO AGO, THE TEMPO AT ENCORE HAS NOW BEEN
11:00:53AM COMPLETED.
11:00:53AM NOW INSTEAD OF ONE 28-ACRE SUPER BLOCK OF PUBLIC HOUSING,
11:00:59AM TODAY WE ARE AT 662 UNITS THAT ARE VERTICAL AND OCCUPIED OF
11:01:05AM WHICH 559 ARE AFFORDABLE AND 103 ARE MARKET RATE, MIXED
11:01:11AM INCOME REDEVELOPMENT, FOUR OF THE FIVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS
11:01:14AM ARE COMPLETED.
11:01:15AM WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO THE COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT PHASE OF
11:01:19AM THIS PROJECT.
11:01:20AM JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS,
11:01:24AM THIS IS THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWING LOTS 1 THROUGH LOT 12.
11:01:28AM LOT 1 IS THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL.
11:01:30AM THAT LAND HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE HILLSBOROUGH
11:01:32AM COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
11:01:33AM THEY HAVE GROUND LEASED IT BACK TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR
11:01:35AM THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO DO URBAN FARMING.
11:01:38AM SO WE'VE ACTUALLY NOW SELECTED AN URBAN FARM PARTNER, AND
11:01:43AM THEY JUST GOT THROUGH PERMITTING.
11:01:45AM I JUST HEARD THE UPDATE.
11:01:47AM I CAN'T SPEAK TO A $20,000 GRANT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
11:01:50AM ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
11:01:50AM BUT THE URBAN FARM PARTNER I ASSUME SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OR
11:01:55AM THROUGH THE CRA FOR $20,000 IN ASSISTANCE.
11:01:58AM THEY HAVE A LEVERAGE REQUIREMENT.
11:02:00AM THEY'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY RAISE MONEY IN ORDER TO DO THE URBAN
11:02:03AM FARM THERE, AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT LAND AND BE ABLE TO DO
11:02:06AM URBAN FARMING THERE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT
11:02:08AM FIVE YEARS.
11:02:09AM I CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THEM COME AND SPEAK TO YOU SPECIFICALLY
11:02:13AM ON THE $20,000 GRANT.
11:02:15AM I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT.
11:02:17AM LOT 2 IS THE TEMPO AT ENCORE.
11:02:19AM OUR LATEST DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY 203 FAMILY UNITS, MIXED
11:02:23AM INCOME.
11:02:23AM LOT 3 WAS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT WE COMPLETED.
11:02:26AM THE ENCORE, 160 UNITS, ALL AFFORDABLE.
11:02:30AM ELLA.
11:02:31AM LOT 4, REED AT ENCORE.
11:02:34AM 158 UNITS, ALL AFFORDABLE FOR SENIORS.
11:02:36AM LOT 5 IS OUT FOR MARKETING NOW.
11:02:38AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR A DEVELOPER OWNER TO PURCHASE THAT LOT
11:02:42AM FROM US AND BUILD AN OFFICE OR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
11:02:45AM LOT 6, THE ST. JAMES CHURCH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN
11:02:49AM THE MIDDLE OF RAY CHARLES BOULEVARD.
11:02:51AM UNDER HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
11:02:52AM THE FINAL PHASE OF ITS HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS UNDERWAY
11:02:57AM NOW.
11:02:58AM EVENTUALLY BECOME TAMPA'S AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM AT
11:03:00AM ENCORE.
11:03:01AM IT IS A HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD CHURCH BUILDING, BEAUTIFUL
11:03:03AM STRUCTURE.
11:03:04AM ALL THE OUTSIDE IS COMPLETED, PRESERVED NOW AND DOING THE
11:03:08AM INTERIOR BUILD-OUT.
11:03:09AM LOT 7, TRIO AT ENCORE, FIRST FAMILY BUILDING, 142 UNITS OF
11:03:15AM FAMILY UNITS, MIXED INCOME.
11:03:17AM LOT 8 WILL BE THE LAST DEVELOPMENT WE WILL BUILD ON-SITE.
11:03:20AM THE REASON IT IS THE LAST SITE, BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THE 12
11:03:22AM CITY BLOCKS, WE NEED STAGING LOCATIONS FOR ALL OF THIS
11:03:26AM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS IT TAKES PLACE.
11:03:28AM WE ALWAYS USED A LOT TO HAVE ALL THE STAGING AND LAY DOWN
11:03:33AM AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRAILER AND ALL THAT ACTIVITY TAKING
11:03:35AM PLACE.
11:03:36AM THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CENTER OF THE SITE.
11:03:39AM THE LAST DEVELOPMENT BUILD THAT WE'LL EVENTUALLY HAVE 172 OR
11:03:43AM MORE MIXED INCOME APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
11:03:45AM WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED OUR REPLACEMENT NUMBERS ON-SITE.
11:03:49AM ONCE AGAIN, 483 AFFORDABLE UNITS, NOW WE HAVE 559 AFFORDABLE
11:03:53AM UNITS PLUS 103 MARKET RATE UNITS VERTICAL.
11:03:57AM LOT 9 AND LOT 11 ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT WITH PRIVATE
11:04:04AM DEVELOPER OWNERS TO DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY MARKET RATE AND
11:04:08AM WORKFORCE HOUSING.
11:04:09AM LOT 10 IS CURRENTLY UNDER MARKETING.
11:04:12AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO LOIs THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR HOTEL
11:04:15AM AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ON LOT 10.
11:04:18AM AND LOT 12 IS OUR GROCER LOT.
11:04:21AM WE'RE IN DESIGN ON THAT BUILDING.
11:04:23AM WE WILL SELF-DEVELOP IT.
11:04:24AM PUT A HUNDRED UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL OVER GROUND FLOOR GROCERY
11:04:30AM STORE SPACE.
11:04:31AM STILL LOOKING FOR A GROCER OPERATOR FOR OUR ENCORE
11:04:34AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:04:35AM VERY QUICKLY, ENCORE, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
11:04:38AM JUST VERY QUICKLY, OUR CAPITAL -- $26 MILLION INVESTMENT.
11:04:43AM ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD ABOUT 3.5 MILLION THAT CAME FROM THE CITY
11:04:47AM OF TAMPA HOME PROGRAM AND NSP DOLLARS THAT AIDED IN THAT
11:04:53AM $26 MILLION DEVELOPMENT.
11:04:55AM THE TRIO AT ENCORE, OUR FIRST FAMILY BUILDING, AND THAT WAS
11:05:00AM A $28 MILLION INVESTMENT.
11:05:03AM ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD $2 MILLION OF SUPPORT AND $28 MILLION
11:05:08AM DEVELOPMENT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA HOME PROGRAM.
11:05:12AM THE REED AT ENCORE WAS OUR FIRST AND ONLY 9% TAX CREDIT
11:05:17AM DEAL.
11:05:17AM WE ONLY NEEDED $100,000 FROM THE CITY FOR THAT PROJECT.
11:05:21AM THAT WAS A $28 MILLION INVESTMENT IN ENCORE.
11:05:27AM TEMPO AT ENCORE, MOST RECENTLY COMPLETED DEVELOPMENT AND OUR
11:05:31AM LARGEST DEVELOPMENT TODAY AT 203 APARTMENTS WAS A
11:05:34AM $38 MILLION INVESTMENT WITH NO LOCAL DOLLARS NEEDED FROM THE
11:05:39AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:05:40AM ALL TOTAL, INCLUDING THE ROUGHLY $3.5 MILLION THAT THE
11:05:46AM HOUSING AUTHORITY FUNDED, $7 MILLION DEVELOPMENT COSTS OF
11:05:50AM PERRY HARVEY PARK AND SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, WE'VE HAD
11:05:53AM ABOUT $160 MILLION OF INVESTMENT WITHIN THAT CRA.
11:05:58AM NONE OF WHICH NEEDED TO ACTUALLY COME FROM CRA DEBT, BY THE
11:06:02AM WAY, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND.
11:06:06AM THIS IS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY SPURRING THE PRIVATE
11:06:10AM SECTOR DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE SURROUNDING
11:06:12AM AREA AND INCREASE THE INCREMENT WITHIN THE CRA WITHOUT
11:06:16AM ACTUALLY TAKING DOLLARS OUT OF THE CRA COFFERS.
11:06:18AM SO THIS $20,000 GRANT MIGHT BE THE FIRST REQUEST FOR ENCORE.
11:06:23AM ONCE AGAIN, IT DIDN'T COME FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
11:06:26AM MOST OF IT COMES FROM THE CRA -- FROM THE URBAN FARMER.
11:06:30AM AND WE'LL GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
11:06:32AM I WANTED TO JUST SORT OF SHOW YOU SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S
11:06:35AM ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE 28-ACRE FOOTPRINT OF
11:06:38AM ENCORE BUT WITHIN THE BROADER CRA AREA.
11:06:42AM WE FUNDED A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD THE STREET SCAPING OF THE
11:06:50AM SCOTT STREET THAT LEADS UP TO SEVENTH AVENUE TO PROVIDE A
11:06:54AM BETTER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN ENCORE
11:06:57AM TRAVERSING THROUGH TAMPA PARK TO EVENTUALLY GET TO YBOR CITY
11:06:59AM FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. WE ALSO HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION
11:07:04AM A 7,500-SQUARE-FOOT JOB TRAINING FACILITY ON LAND THAT WAS
11:07:09AM DONATED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:07:11AM JUST A YEAR AGO, THAT BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
11:07:14AM THIS IS THE LOCATION FOR THE TWO-ACRE URBAN FARM.
11:07:18AM ONCE AGAIN, IT WILL BE AN URBAN FARM OPERATING THERE FOR THE
11:07:21AM NEXT FIVE YEARS.
11:07:23AM THAT LAND IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
11:07:25AM SO WHEN THEY ARE READY TO BUILD THE NEW MEACHAM SCHOOL, THEY
11:07:31AM WILL TAKE THE LAND BACK AND THAT WILL BECOME A SCHOOL.
11:07:34AM THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME LARGE PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION GOING
11:07:37AM IN ATOP THE STORMWATER RETENTION POND VAULT FOR ENCORE.
11:07:43AM AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME IMAGES OF WHAT SOME OF THAT LOOKS
11:07:47AM LIKE.
11:07:47AM OUR 7500-SQUARE-FOOT JOB TRAINING CENTER, THERE IS A
11:07:51AM PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE SCHOOL
11:07:54AM DISTRICT, AND HCC TO ACTUALLY BRING JOB TRAINING TO THE
11:07:59AM COMMUNITY, TO PREPARE PEOPLE FOR THE JOBS THAT WILL BE IN
11:08:03AM THE MARKET FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
11:08:06AM THE URBAN -- THE TECHNOLOGY PARK, ALSO OUR DOG WALK PARK AT
11:08:12AM ENCORE, IS ACTUALLY THE PARK ON TOP OF THE STORMWATER
11:08:15AM RETENTION POND.
11:08:16AM THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR SOLAR ARRAY THAT OFFSETS OUR COST
11:08:20AM FOR STREET LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
11:08:23AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION GOING ON THERE
11:08:26AM NOW.
11:08:27AM WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH -- THE CALL
11:08:32AM FOR ART FOR MUCH OF OUR PUBLIC ART THROUGHOUT ENCORE.
11:08:36AM THAT WORK IS UNDERWAY NOW.
11:08:38AM WE'LL HAVE AN OPENING FOR THAT WHEN IT'S COMPLETED PROBABLY
11:08:42AM LATE DECEMBER OR IN JANUARY.
11:08:44AM ST. JAMES EPISCOPAL CHURCH, WHICH WILL BECOME TAMPA'S
11:08:54AM AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM IN ITS FINAL PHASES OF
11:08:58AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ABOUT A $3 MILLION INVESTMENT ALL
11:09:01AM TOTAL.
11:09:01AM MOVING ACROSS THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER --
11:09:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
11:09:07AM BEFORE YOU GET THERE.
11:09:08AM I KNOW IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BORDERS WE LOOKED AT HERE, BUT
11:09:11AM THE JACKSON HOUSE THAT IS A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY.
11:09:14AM YOU JUST MENTIONED THIS CHURCH THAT IS BEING RESTORED TO
11:09:17AM BECOME AN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM.
11:09:20AM BUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, BEING THAT IT IS ONE OF THE FEW
11:09:22AM REMAINING STRUCTURES FROM THE CENTRAL AVENUE BUSINESS TIME
11:09:26AM PERIOD, WHICH IT'S ALMOST ALL GONE.
11:09:29AM VERY FEW STRUCTURES REMAIN.
11:09:31AM IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO FROM YOUR AUTHORITY?
11:09:39AM WE CAN LOOK AT PRESERVING THE STRUCTURE?
11:09:40AM I ASKED THE QUESTION TO THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WHEN I
11:09:43AM FIRST GOT ELECTED, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
11:09:45AM I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTIES INVOLVED.
11:09:48AM MAYBE IT'S TOO FAR GONE, BUT I'VE LOVED THAT HOUSE FOR YEARS
11:09:53AM AND IT IS ASHAMED, AN ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WITH SO MANY
11:09:57AM NOTABLE PEOPLE OF THE 20th CENTURY THAT HAVE STAYED THERE
11:09:59AM TO LET IT JUST ROT AWAY.
11:10:03AM >>LEROY MOORE: ABSOLUTELY.
11:10:03AM WE LOVE THAT STRUCTURE AS WELL.
11:10:05AM WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS OVER THE
11:10:07AM YEARS TRYING TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE AND TRYING TO FIGURE
11:10:10AM OUT A WAY TO ACTUALLY ACQUIRE CAPITAL TO REDEVELOP IT.
11:10:15AM IT'S JUST A TOUGH ONE TO DO.
11:10:17AM FOR A LONG TIME, THE CONTROL AND OWNERSHIP OF IT POSED SOME
11:10:22AM ISSUES, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU TODAY WHAT THE STATUS OF IT IS.
11:10:26AM BUT, YES, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF ANY EFFORT TO SAVE THE
11:10:30AM JACKSON HOUSE AND BRING FUNDS TO PRESERVE IT.
11:10:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE
11:10:36AM TO ADD TO THAT?
11:10:38AM >>JOHN BENNETT: TO THAT POINT, I ACTUALLY CALLED FOR AN
11:10:42AM ALL-HANDS MEETING ON THE JACKSON HOUSE SO I CAN GET A CLEAR
11:10:45AM UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE POINT IN TIME AND I'LL BE
11:10:48AM HAPPY TO COME BACK AND SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD.
11:10:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A COMMITTEE
11:10:53AM GROUP THAT MEETS ABOUT THE JACKSON.
11:10:56AM MS. CAROLYN COLLINS, ARE THEY STILL MEETING?
11:10:58AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AN UPLOAD ON.
11:11:01AM I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE ASPECT SO WE
11:11:03AM CAN LOOK AT THE CAPITAL SIDE, THE PROTECTION, DEFENSE SIDE,
11:11:07AM ALL OF THAT.
11:11:08AM NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING TO GUIDO HOUSE AND
11:11:12AM THE SAME EXACT APPROACH TO MAKE SURE WE RELISH THESE
11:11:15AM OPPORTUNITIES WHILE WE HAVE THEM.
11:11:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:11:19AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:11:21AM A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE WE LEAVE ENCORE.
11:11:23AM IN REGARD TO JACKSON HOUSE, I'VE SAID THIS A FEW TIMES, I
11:11:27AM THINK IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT.
11:11:31AM I THINK AND SO THRILLED TO HEAR THAT THE CHURCH WILL BE
11:11:34AM TURNED INTO A BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM.
11:11:36AM I THINK IF WE CONSIDERED MOVING THE JACKSON HOUSE -- AND I
11:11:40AM KNOW IT'S VERY SHAKY STRUCTURALLY -- BUT IF WE CONSIDERED
11:11:44AM MOVING IT OVER THERE TO PERRY HARVEY PARK SO IT WOULD BE
11:11:46AM LIKE AT THE END OF THE STREET.
11:11:48AM IT WOULD BE ONLY LIKE A BLOCK AWAY AND THOSE TWO COULD WORK
11:11:51AM IN SYNERGY, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO FIX IT UP AND EVERYTHING
11:11:53AM AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
11:11:54AM ANYWAY, JUST A THOUGHT, IF YOU LOOK -- IF YOU LOOK AND SEE
11:11:58AM WHERE THAT CHURCH IS AND THEN DOWN AT THE END OF THAT BLOCK
11:12:02AM IS PERRY HARVEY PARK, AND WE COULD MOVE THE JACKSON HOUSE
11:12:05AM OVER THERE AND MAKE IT PART OF THAT SORT OF EXPERIENCE, THE
11:12:10AM BLACK HISTORY EXPERIENCE.
11:12:11AM I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NEAT.
11:12:12AM ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
11:12:15AM >>JOHN BENNETT: DULY NOTED.
11:12:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MOORE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
11:12:20AM INFORMATION.
11:12:20AM I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT ENCORE.
11:12:24AM NUMBER ONE, WITH THE OPENING OF THE PUBLIX, I GOT TO THINK
11:12:30AM THAT IT'S GOT TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO COMPETE WITH A REAL
11:12:34AM GROCERY THAT'S SO CLOSE TO THAT, PROBABLY A QUARTER MILE
11:12:37AM AWAY UP NEBRASKA TO THAT PUBLIX.
11:12:42AM HAS THAT BECOME A REAL IMPEDIMENT?
11:12:45AM >> YEAH, THAT CERTAINLY HAS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF GROCERS
11:12:48AM THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOCATING IN THE AREA.
11:12:50AM OUR SITE LENDS ITSELF FOR SMALLER-BOX THAN THE 35, 40
11:12:55AM THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BOX.
11:12:56AM IT WAS PREVIOUSLY UNDER CONTRACT BY PUBLIX AND WAS
11:12:59AM PREVIOUSLY UNDER CONTRACT BY WALMART AND FOR DIFFERENT
11:13:02AM REASONS, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE GROCERS ACTUALLY WORKED OUT.
11:13:06AM WE COULDN'T GET THE URBAN PLAN WE WANTED WITH WALMART SO WE
11:13:14AM TURNED THEM DOWN AND PUBLIX CHOSE THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT.
11:13:18AM WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON A GROCER INTERESTED IN A ONE ACRE
11:13:21AM SITE, 15 TO 18 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT URBAN GROCER.
11:13:25AM IT IS A BUILDING THAT WOULD BE WITHIN A LARGER BUILDING.
11:13:29AM IT'S AN URBAN STYLE.
11:13:30AM SIMILAR TO, ON A SMALLER SCALE, THE ONE IN HYDE PARK, WHERE
11:13:35AM YOU HAVE STRUCTURED PARKING AND YOU'VE GOT A MUCH LIMITED
11:13:38AM NUMBER OF GROCERS THAT'S INTERESTED IN DOING STRUCTURED
11:13:41AM PARKING WITHIN A GROCER.
11:13:43AM WE PROCEEDED WITH DEVELOPING OR PLANNING THE REST OF THE
11:13:48AM BUILDING.
11:13:49AM THE HUNDRED UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL OVER IT, SO WE CAN WORK OUT
11:13:52AM THINGS LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION, HOW THE TRUCKS GET IN AND
11:13:55AM UNLOAD, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, SO WE GET THE URBAN PLAN AND
11:14:01AM SCALE RIGHT TO OUR ACCEPTANCE AND WE ALSO GET THE USE THAT
11:14:05AM WE WANT PROTECTED ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH IS WHAT A
11:14:08AM GROCERY STORE.
11:14:10AM WE WILL EVENTUALLY GET A GROCER.
11:14:11AM WE'RE NOT IN ANY RUSH.
11:14:12AM OF COURSE, WE'D LIKE IT TO HAPPEN NOW, BUT IF IT'S NOT IN
11:14:16AM MARKET NOW, WE HAVE TIME TO WAIT WHILE WE GO AHEAD AND BUILD
11:14:19AM THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS OVER THE SHELL.
11:14:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU COULD ALWAYS CUT IT UP INTO SMALL
11:14:26AM UNITS IF THAT'S WHERE THE MARKET TOOK YOU.
11:14:28AM >> WELL, WE'RE PLANNING FOR A 15 TO 18 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT
11:14:33AM URBAN GROCER.
11:14:34AM THAT'S WHAT WE ACTUALLY EVENTUALLY WANT ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
11:14:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY NEXT QUESTION IS A LITTLE HEAVIER.
11:14:40AM YOU AND I HAVE TALKED.
11:14:41AM I USED TO TEACH, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, AND HALF OF MY
11:14:46AM STUDENTS WERE CENTRAL PARK KIDS.
11:14:48AM IN REGARD TO THE PERCENTAGE OF RETURN OF FAMILIES OR FOLKS
11:14:56AM WHO USED TO LIVE IN CENTRAL PARK AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT A
11:14:59AM DECADE WHERE THERE WAS NOTHING AVAILABLE THERE, AND WE
11:15:05AM ALWAYS TOLD THEM, SOMEDAY YOU COULD RETURN.
11:15:09AM YOU ALL DO STATISTICS IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE RETURN AND
11:15:12AM ALSO, IF SO, HOW DO THOSE STATISTICS COMPARE TO NATIONAL
11:15:16AM GOALS, NATIONAL NORMS, THAT SORT OF THING?
11:15:20AM >> I CAN GIVE YOU CURRENT INFORMATION ON THAT.
11:15:21AM OUR REDEVELOPMENTS HAVE ALWAYS RESULTED IN BETWEEN 10 AND
11:15:24AM 15 PERCENT OF THE FAMILIES THAT WERE RELOCATED OFF-SITE,
11:15:29AM THREE PLUS YEARS LATER RETURNING TO THE SITE.
11:15:32AM 100% OF THEM GET THE RIGHT TO RETURN IF THEY CHOOSE TO.
11:15:36AM IT'S NOT A MANDATED REDEVELOPMENT OR MANDATED RETURN.
11:15:40AM WHEN WE RELOCATE THEM OFF-SITE, WE DO SOMETHING I THINK
11:15:43AM BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY IN THE RELOCATION
11:15:46AM PROCESS.
11:15:47AM THE LEVEL OF COUNSELING, THE LEVEL OF -- THE SUPPORT
11:15:50AM SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE THEM.
11:15:53AM WE EQUIP THEM WITH THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES
11:15:55AM WHEN THEY ARE RELOCATING.
11:15:57AM IT MAKES A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE IN HAVING THE THEM RELOCATE
11:16:01AM INTO AN AREA OF OPPORTUNITY THAT HAS SOME SPECIAL CONNECTION
11:16:04AM TO THEM.
11:16:05AM EITHER CLOSER TO JOB, CLOSER TO FAMILY, CLOSER TO SCHOOL,
11:16:10AM CLOSER TO CHURCH IN SOME CASES AND IN THOSE THREE PLUS YEARS
11:16:13AM THAT IT TAKES TO TEAR DOWN AND START REDEVELOPING THE SITE,
11:16:17AM FAMILIES HAVE BUILT MORE OF A CONNECTION IN THE COMMUNITY
11:16:19AM THAT THEY CHOSE TO MOVE INTO.
11:16:21AM AS OPPOSED TO DOING A PHASED REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WHERE
11:16:27AM YOU LEAVE MOST OF THE POPULATION ON-SITE AND YOU TEAR DOWN A
11:16:32AM BUILDING OR TWO AT A TIME AND YOU MOVE PEOPLE ON-SITE INTO
11:16:36AM NEW HOUSING AND NOT AFFORDING THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH
11:16:39AM RELOCATION.
11:16:40AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE, GO INTO THE SECTION 8 PROGRAM,
11:16:45AM WHICH GIVES THEM MORE MOBILITY, MORE FLEXIBILITY, THE
11:16:48AM ABILITY TO ACTUALLY CONNECT WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A PEOPLE
11:16:52AM OR A PLACE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
11:16:55AM BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE DO OUR RELOCATIONS, IT PROVIDES THESE
11:17:01AM FAMILIES WITH MORE CHOICE, MORE OPPORTUNITY, AND THREE PLUS
11:17:05AM YEARS AS BEAUTIFUL AS ENCORE IS, AS BEAUTIFUL AS WEST RIVER
11:17:09AM IS, AS BEAUTIFUL AS ALL OF OUR REDEVELOPMENTS ARE, THEY
11:17:11AM DON'T HAVE A NEED TO RETURN BACK.
11:17:13AM THEY CAN ALWAYS COME AND VISIT, BUT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO
11:17:16AM RETURN BACK.
11:17:17AM SO OUR NUMBERS ARE BETWEEN 12 AND 15% RETURN RATE.
11:17:23AM THAT'S A POSITIVE IN TWO WAYS FOR US.
11:17:25AM ONE, THE FAMILIES ARE STILL HOUSED.
11:17:28AM THEY ARE STILL PAYING NO MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME
11:17:31AM TOWARD RENT BECAUSE THEY EITHER STAYED IN THE PUBLIC HOUSING
11:17:35AM PROGRAM OR THEY RELOCATED ONTO THE SECTION 8 PROGRAM.
11:17:38AM SO THEY STILL HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SUBSIDY SUPPORT FOR
11:17:41AM THEIR LIVING NEEDS.
11:17:43AM BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO MOVE MORE PEOPLE OFF THE WAIT LIST.
11:17:48AM INSTEAD OF MOVING PEOPLE OUT TO MOVE THE SAME POPULATION IN
11:17:50AM AND HAVING A MORE STAGNANT WAIT LIST, 85% OF THE FAMILIES --
11:17:56AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO NATIONAL NORMS?
11:17:59AM >> NATIONALLY, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DO YOUR RELOCATION.
11:18:03AM SOME HOUSING AUTHORITIES, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED-UNIT SITE
11:18:07AM YOU MAY CLEAR OUT 20 VACANT UNITS AND DO A BUILDING OR TWO
11:18:10AM AT A TIME.
11:18:11AM MIAMI HAS DONE A FEW PROJECTS LIKE THAT AND OTHER CITIES.
11:18:15AM IT IS A LONGER AND IT IS A MORE COSTLY WAY TO REDEVELOP
11:18:19AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT LEAVES THE SAME POPULATION INTACT
11:18:22AM ROUGHLY ON-SITE.
11:18:24AM BECAUSE THE FAMILIES DON'T HAVE THE CHOICE OF RECEIVING A
11:18:26AM VOUCHER AND RELOCATING OR MOVING TO ANOTHER PUBLIC HOUSING
11:18:31AM ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT THEY MAY CHOOSE.
11:18:32AM SO IT'S THE WAY YOU DO RELOCATION THAT DETERMINES THE NUMBER
11:18:38AM OF RETURNING RESIDENTS TO THE NEW COMPLETED SITE.
11:18:42AM AND OUR RELOCATIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A SINGLE-PHASE
11:18:45AM RELOCATION WHERE WE MAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO
11:18:48AM EVERYBODY ON-SITE TO RELOCATE 70% OF THEM CHOOSE SECTION 8
11:18:53AM VOUCHER ON AVERAGE, 70% OF ALL OF OUR POPULATIONS WANT THAT
11:18:58AM VOUCHER BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM THE SAME LEVEL OF SUBSIDY
11:19:01AM SUPPORT FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THEM THE
11:19:04AM FREEDOM OF CHOICE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND
11:19:07AM MOVE AS OFTEN AS THEY WANT TO, FRANKLY, AS THEIR HOUSEHOLD
11:19:11AM NEEDS CHANGES AS OPPOSED TO RESIDING IN A FIXED UNIT, YOU
11:19:15AM KNOW, WHERE THE SUBSIDY IS TIED TO THE UNIT, NOT WITH THEM.
11:19:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN YOU USE THE TERM SECTION 8, SOMETIMES
11:19:28AM IT'S A VERY, NOT GOOD WORD SOMETIMES.
11:19:30AM I KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ANOTHER CODE FOR SECTION
11:19:37AM 8, A NUMBER OR --
11:19:39AM >> THE PROGRAM IS CALLED THE ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAM.
11:19:41AM EVERYBODY KNOWS SECTION 8.
11:19:43AM I REMEMBER TO IT AS SECTION 8.
11:19:46AM SECTION 8 JUST REFERS TO THE SECTION OF THE HOUSING CODE.
11:19:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE I WANT TALKING TO A FEW DEVELOPMENT
11:19:50AM FRIENDS AND THEY SAY THERE IS ANOTHER NAME FOR SECTION 8, A
11:19:54AM CERTAIN CODE.
11:19:55AM I WISH I HAD THAT TODAY.
11:19:56AM I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE USE THAT WORD, WE GET THAT
11:19:59AM NIMBYISM.
11:20:01AM I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT ANOTHER WORD OR NOT USING
11:20:03AM THAT WORD AT ALL.
11:20:04AM JUST YOU'RE APPLYING FOR -- JUST APPLYING.
11:20:10AM THAT WAY WE WILL GET AWAY FROM THAT WORD OF SECTION 8.
11:20:18AM I THINK IT'S A BAD TONE THAT IT HAS CREATED THROUGHOUT THE
11:20:18AM YEARS.
11:20:19AM I'LL GET WITH YOU AND SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT WORD.
11:20:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:20:23AM ARE YOU CONTINUING.
11:20:24AM >> I'LL GO INTO THE WEST RIVER AND GIVE YOU BRIEFLY AN
11:20:28AM UPDATE.
11:20:28AM MOVING TO THE WEST RIVER SITE.
11:20:30AM THIS IS THE SITE A FEW YEARS AGO, OF COURSE, NOW THE CITY
11:20:34AM HAS CLEARED OUT THE WATER DEPARTMENT SITE.
11:20:36AM WE HAVE DEMOLISHED THE 670 UNITS OF NORTH BOULEVARD HOMES,
11:20:42AM SO THAT AREA LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TODAY.
11:20:45AM THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS SOME PRESUMED REDEVELOPMENT
11:20:49AM ON THE NORTH END.
11:20:50AM THIS IS LAND THAT WE DON'T OWN.
11:20:52AM WHAT WE DO OWN IS THIS 44-ACRE SITE ON THE SOUTH PART OF THE
11:20:57AM SITE.
11:20:57AM ZOOMING IN JUST ON THE LAND WE OWN, TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON
11:21:01AM OUR PROGRESS TO DATE.
11:21:02AM THIS IS THAT AREA, AND THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITE PLAN.
11:21:07AM I WANT TO ORIENT YOU.
11:21:09AM THIS IS ROME AVENUE, AND THIS IS MAIN STREET OR MOSES WHITE
11:21:12AM AVENUE.
11:21:13AM MAIN STREET, ROME AVENUE, OUR OLD OFFICE BUILDING USED TO
11:21:18AM SIT APPROXIMATELY RIGHT HERE.
11:21:20AM REFERENCED AS T-1, A NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILDING UNDER
11:21:23AM CONSTRUCTION NOW.
11:21:24AM ABOUT 45%, TOPPED OFF, MEANING IT'S AT ITS DESIGN HEIGHT.
11:21:29AM THAT IS A FIVE-STORY OVER RETAIL BUILDING.
11:21:32AM DESIGNED FOR ALL SENIORS.
11:21:33AM 160 NEW CONSTRUCTION UNITS.
11:21:35AM 100% AFFORDABLE.
11:21:36AM T-2-A IS THE MARY BETHUNE HIGH-RISE THAT WAS PRESERVED.
11:21:42AM IT'S UNDER RENOVATION NOW.
11:21:44AM THAT'S GOING TO BE 150 UNITS, 100% AFFORDABLE FOR SENIORS.
11:21:48AM THE NEXT BLOCK OVER AT OREGON AND MAIN STREET, T-3-A
11:21:53AM BUILDING, 118-UNIT BUILDING.
11:21:55AM IT IS A MIXED-INCOME BUILDING.
11:21:58AM THE T-3-B BUILDING IS 130 UNITS, 120 UNITS ON T-3-C AND
11:22:05AM T-3-D, 120 UNITS PLUS THE TOWNHOMES NORTH OF T-2-A.
11:22:14AM SO ALL TOTAL, THESE ARE ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE EITHER
11:22:15AM FULLY FUNDED OR ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
11:22:17AM FULLY FUNDED OR ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, 810 UNITS TO
11:22:22AM DATE AT WEST RIVER.
11:22:24AM SO WE'RE NORTH OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE TORE DOWN BY
11:22:29AM ABOUT ALMOST 150 UNITS.
11:22:31AM TO DATE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FUNDING APPLICATIONS IN ON THE T-4
11:22:35AM BLOCK ON TWO OF THE T-4 BUILDINGS.
11:22:37AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LETTER OF INTENT TO PURCHASE ONE OF THE
11:22:41AM BLOCKS ON T-5 FOR RESIDENTIAL, MARKET RATE FORCE HOUSING AS
11:22:47AM WELL AS A PENDING LOI FOR A TOURIST USE ON THE CORNER OF
11:22:55AM NORTH BOULEVARD AND MAIN STREET.
11:22:57AM SO A LOT OF ACTIVITIES IN JUST TWO SHORT YEARS SINCE
11:23:01AM RELOCATION HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN PLACE, TO ACTUALLY HAVE 800
11:23:05AM UNITS ALREADY FUNDED AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION IS AN INCREDIBLE
11:23:10AM FEAT.
11:23:11AM THANKS TO OUR PARTNERS WITH BANK OF AMERICA AND RELATED.
11:23:14AM THIS IS SHOWING THE PROGRESS OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION
11:23:17AM BUILDING AS WELL AS BETHUNE HIGH-RISE THAT'S UNDER
11:23:22AM RENOVATION TODAY.
11:23:23AM THIS IS WHAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.
11:23:26AM IT IS CALLED THE RENAISSANCE AT WEST RIVER.
11:23:28AM IT IS A $45 MILLION INVESTMENT.
11:23:31AM THE CRA, ONCE AGAIN, THOSE CRA DOLLARS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED
11:23:34AM FOR ANYTHING IN THE WEST RIVER REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
11:23:37AM THIS IS WHAT BETHUNE WILL LOOK LIKE.
11:23:41AM THE PUBLIC ART IS A PLACE HOLDER.
11:23:44AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ARTIST NOW TO GIVE US SOME ART THAT'S
11:23:47AM REFLECTIVE OF MARY McLEOD BETHUNE'S LIFE IN SOME WAY TO
11:23:52AM ACTUALLY GRACE THAT BUILDING AND AT FULL BUILD-OUT, OF
11:23:57AM COURSE, THIS IS WHAT WE HOPE TO SEE AT FULL BUILD-OUT OF THE
11:24:02AM 150-ACRE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
11:24:03AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:24:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:24:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS
11:24:12AM LATER, BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE RIGHT NOW AS THE TOTAL UNMET
11:24:16AM DEMAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW MUCH OF THAT DOES YOUR
11:24:21AM AGENCY THINK YOU CAN MEET OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN YEARS?
11:24:24AM AND YOU MENTIONED NOT USING CRA MONEY, BUT WE'VE ALL TALKED
11:24:28AM ABOUT MAYBE USING CRA MONEY.
11:24:30AM IF WE ALLOCATED 30% OF OUR CRA DOLLARS TOWARD AFFORDABLE
11:24:35AM HOUSING, COULD WE PARTNER WITH YOU ALL OR SOMEBODY TO HELP
11:24:39AM FILL THAT DEMAND?
11:24:40AM >> YES, CERTAINLY WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR SEVERAL
11:24:42AM OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
11:24:44AM DOING QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:24:46AM AND THE REASON WE HAVEN'T NEEDED CRA DOLLARS YET ON THIS
11:24:50AM REDEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT THE
11:24:53AM STATE WITH PUTTING BOND DEALS, 4% CREDITS AS WELL AS 9%
11:24:57AM DEALS IN PLACE.
11:24:58AM HAVING VERY AGGRESSIVE PARTNERS IN BANK OF AMERICA AND
11:25:02AM RELATED.
11:25:03AM AND ALSO HAVING THE CITY AT THE TABLE WITH THEIR H.O.M.E.
11:25:07AM DOLLARS TO SUPPORT HELPING TO CLOSE SOME OF THE GAPS.
11:25:11AM SO THE CITY HAS BEEN ACTIVE FINANCIALLY IN THESE DEALS AND
11:25:13AM MOST OF THESE DEALS, BUT THROUGH THE H.O.M.E. PROGRAM, NOT
11:25:20AM CRA INCREMENT.
11:25:21AM THAT'S GOOD FOR US BECAUSE WE LIKE TO SEE THE CRA BEING USED
11:25:24AM FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, STREETS, PARKS, AND THINGS
11:25:28AM THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE PUTTING
11:25:30AM IN THE AREA.
11:25:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, WHAT IS THE NUMBER ON THE UNMET?
11:25:34AM DID YOU SAY THAT ALREADY?
11:25:35AM WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE
11:25:38AM HOUSES THAT CAN'T FIND?
11:25:40AM >> WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE OVER 20,000 PEOPLE ON THE WAIT
11:25:43AM LIST TODAY.
11:25:44AM BUT I HATE PUTTING A NUMBER OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS A
11:25:47AM FALSE INDICATION OF HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED IT.
11:25:49AM A LOT MORE PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY
11:25:52AM THAN 20,000.
11:25:53AM IT IS A FALSE INDICATION BECAUSE THAT WAIT LIST HAS BEEN
11:25:56AM CLOSED FOR OVER TEN YEARS.
11:25:57AM OVER TEN YEARS NOW.
11:25:59AM WE OPENED THE WAIT LIST UP JUST FOR THE SECTION 8 PROGRAM A
11:26:03AM LITTLE OVER TEN YEARS AGO FOR ONE WEEK ONLY AND WE GOT OVER
11:26:09AM 10,000 PEOPLE APPLYING JUST WITHIN ONE WEEK.
11:26:11AM SO IF THAT WAIT LIST WAS OPENED, YOU'D CERTAINLY HAVE FIFTY,
11:26:13AM A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE.
11:26:15AM WE HAVE 150 PLUS PEOPLE MOVING INTO THIS COMMUNITY EVERY
11:26:18AM DAY.
11:26:19AM FAR LESS THAN WHAT THE DEMAND IS.
11:26:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE FOUND MONEY IN THE CRA BUDGET FOR
11:26:26AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WOULD THAT ACCELERATE?
11:26:28AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:26:29AM I'VE SAID IT MANY TIMES, THE CITY IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT
11:26:34AM CREATIVE WAYS, INCLUDING TRUST FUNDS, SO THAT WE'VE GOT AN
11:26:37AM INDEPENDENT, DEDICATED, SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING MUCH
11:26:42AM LIKE WHAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RECENTLY DID TO ACTUALLY CLOSE
11:26:45AM GAPS.
11:26:46AM YOU'VE GOT LAND, YOU'VE GOT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE INTERESTED
11:26:48AM IN DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THESE DEALS HAVE FINANCIAL
11:26:52AM GAPS AND THOSE GAPS CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FIVE MILLION
11:26:57AM DOLLARS ON A TYPICAL DEAL.
11:26:59AM HAVING A FUND THAT YOU CAN HAVE DEVELOPERS CLOSE THAT LAST
11:27:02AM GAP TO MAKE THESE DEALS FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE WILL GET A LOT
11:27:06AM MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPED.
11:27:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MOORE, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
11:27:12AM FOR THE RECORD.
11:27:12AM >> LEROY MOORE, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
11:27:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:15AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
11:27:16AM IS LEGAL HERE FOR THEIR NEXT.
11:27:20AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT'S ME.
11:27:21AM IF I COULD, I'LL BE QUICK.
11:27:26AM I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, EARLIER, MR. DINGFELDER ASKED ME A
11:27:29AM QUESTION ABOUT AN RFP AND I WAS TALKING IN TERMS OF THE TYPE
11:27:33AM OF RFPs FOR PROCUREMENT OF COMMODITIES OR SERVICES AND THE
11:27:38AM PROCEDURES THAT APPLY TO THOSE.
11:27:41AM ONE OF THE RFPs MR. JOHNSON WAS TALKING ABOUT IN EAST
11:27:43AM TAMPA IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT AND WAS FOR THE DISPOSITION OF
11:27:49AM PROPERTY.
11:27:50AM THAT'S GOVERNED BY A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CRA STATUTE
11:27:52AM 163.380.
11:27:54AM IT DOES REQUIRE NOTICE AND SUBMITTAL OF PROPOSALS, BUT THE
11:27:58AM QUESTION WAS, CAN THE CITY VIA CRA BOARD BE MORE INVOLVED IN
11:28:02AM THE CRAFTING OF THOSE RFPs AND THE PROCESS FOR SELECTION,
11:28:06AM THAT'S SOMETHING I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO BECAUSE, AGAIN,
11:28:09AM THAT'S OUTSIDE THE TYPICAL PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAT I
11:28:12AM REFERRED TO.
11:28:12AM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:28:15AM SORRY TO CREATE CONFUSION.
11:28:18AM FACADE GRANT QUESTION ASKED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO JUST
11:28:23AM LEFT.
11:28:24AM SINCE I HAVE TO STAY HERE, MAYBE WE CAN WAIT AND I'LL DO
11:28:27AM THAT LATER ON.
11:28:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
11:28:30AM ALL RIGHT.
11:28:31AM MS. DUNCAN.
11:28:46AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING.
11:28:48AM GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
11:28:49AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO MY
11:28:54AM OFFICE THROUGH ED JOHNSON AND I BELIEVE GENERATED BY THE CRA
11:29:00AM BOARD MEMBERS.
11:29:01AM SO I WILL RUN THROUGH THOSE RESPONSES.
11:29:05AM LET'S SEE IF I CAN OPERATE THE CLICKER AND TALK AT THE SAME
11:29:09AM TIME HERE.
11:29:09AM THE QUESTIONS CENTER AROUND A POND, ONE OF MANY PONDS THAT
11:29:19AM WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:29:21AM THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS IN EAST TAMPA.
11:29:23AM IT'S AROUND THE 26th STREET, 26th AVENUE, 22nd STREET
11:29:28AM AVENUE AREA, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LOCATION OF WHAT I'M
11:29:32AM TALKING ABOUT HERE, JUST SOUTH OF I-4.
11:29:34AM AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A MORE CLOSE-UP VIEW OF THE PARTICULAR
11:29:40AM POND.
11:29:40AM IT HAS A WETLAND COMPONENT TO IT AS WELL.
11:29:44AM SO IT'S SERVING MULTIPURPOSES IN TERMS OF ATTENUATING,
11:29:47AM RETAINING WATER AND ALSO A WETLAND FUNCTION AS WELL.
11:29:50AM SO QUESTIONS WERE RAISED REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR POND.
11:29:57AM FIRST WAS WHY WAS THIS ENVIRONMENTAL POND CREATED?
11:30:01AM BASICALLY, THE POND WAS CREATED TO ALLEVIATE FLOODING IN THE
11:30:05AM EAST TAMPA AREA.
11:30:08AM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHEN THERE'S
11:30:10AM SMALLER RAIN EVENTS, THE POND RETAINS THAT WATER AND THE
11:30:14AM PURPOSE OF THAT IS FOR THE POLLUTANTS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO
11:30:18AM GET COLLECTED AND WASH THROUGH THE ACTUAL NATURAL
11:30:21AM ENVIRONMENT OF GRASS AND SOIL.
11:30:23AM AND THAT WAY WHEN THEY GET INTO THE AQUIFER OR OUT TO ANY
11:30:26AM OTHER BAY AREAS, THEY ARE IN A CLEANER CONDITION.
11:30:31AM AS THE RAIN INTENSIFIES OR MORE RAIN COMES ALONG, THE RAIN
11:30:36AM IS DETAINED OR WHAT WE CALL ATTENUATED.
11:30:39AM THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO HOLD THAT WATER SO THAT THE
11:30:42AM STORMWATER PIPE SYSTEM HAS TIME TO TAKE THAT WATER AND LET
11:30:45AM IT FLOW DOWN TO ITS ULTIMATE OUTFALL, WHICH IS A BIGGER BODY
11:30:50AM OF WATER.
11:30:51AM SO THE FLOODING DOWNSTREAM IS PREVENTED BY RETAINING THE
11:30:55AM WATER AND ALLOWING TIME FOR THE SYSTEM TO VOLUME-WISE PASS
11:31:00AM THE WATER THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE BEFORE THAT WATER ENTERS
11:31:04AM INTO THE SYSTEM.
11:31:05AM THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WAS POSED WAS, IS THIS ENVIRONMENTAL
11:31:10AM POND CONNECTED TO OTHER RETENTION PONDS?
11:31:15AM IF SO, EXPLAIN HOW.
11:31:16AM SO THIS PARTICULAR POND IS NOT CONNECTED TO OTHER PONDS, BUT
11:31:21AM IT DOES DRAIN A 200-ACRE AREA.
11:31:25AM I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP OF THAT IN JUST A SECOND TO GIVE YOU A
11:31:29AM PERSPECTIVE.
11:31:30AM MOST OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NORTH OF THE POND THAT DRAIN
11:31:33AM INTO IT.
11:31:34AM AND IT DOES CONNECT TO A PIPE NETWORK AND INTO A VAULT
11:31:38AM SYSTEM DOWNSTREAM.
11:31:39AM EVEN THOUGH OTHER PONDS AREN'T CONNECTED TO IT, IT IS AN
11:31:43AM INTEGRAL PART OF A STORMWATER SYSTEM.
11:31:45AM WE HAVE HAD SOME RECENT ISSUES, ACTUALLY, WITH FLOODING ON
11:31:49AM 26th STREET AVENUE, WHO HAVE DONE TVING OF THE LINES,
11:31:56AM CLEANING OF THE LINES AND LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME
11:31:58AM SORT OF ISSUE BEYOND MAINTENANCE THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO
11:32:01AM ADDRESS.
11:32:02AM JUST VERY QUICKLY, THIS GIVES YOU A SHOT OF DRAINAGE AREA
11:32:04AM THAT CONTRIBUTES INTO THIS POND GENERALLY TO THE NORTH OF
11:32:07AM THE POND, ALL THE WAY UP TO ABOUT MARTIN LUTHER KING, 22nd
11:32:11AM STREET ON THE EAST, 28th STREET -- EXCUSE ME, 28th
11:32:15AM STREET ON THE EAST, 22nd STREET ON THE WEST.
11:32:19AM AND 22nd AVENUE ON THE SOUTH.
11:32:21AM AND THEN A QUESTION WAS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN
11:32:27AM ENVIRONMENTAL POND AND A RETENTION POND?
11:32:30AM AND THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
11:32:31AM THERE IS NO REALLY SUCH THING AS A -- AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL
11:32:35AM POND.
11:32:35AM A STORMWATER POND, A RETENTION POND, IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL
11:32:40AM POND BECAUSE IT HAS A FUNCTION OF IMPROVING THE WATER
11:32:44AM QUALITY OF THE WATER AS WELL AS HANDLING THE WATER, EITHER
11:32:48AM THROUGH ATTENUATION OR DETENTION TO PREVENT FLOODING IN A
11:32:51AM PARTICULAR AREA.
11:32:52AM SO THAT'S A TERM THAT'S OUT THERE MAYBE IN THE LAYMAN'S
11:32:57AM AREA, BUT IN TERMS OF HOW WE LOOK AT PONDS FROM A TECHNICAL
11:33:00AM PERSPECTIVE, THERE REALLY IS NO DEFINITION OR DIFFERENCE FOR
11:33:03AM A RETENTION OR ENVIRONMENTAL POND.
11:33:08AM ALL OF OUR PONDS HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF APPROVAL
11:33:11AM FROM THE S.W.F.W.M.D., WHICH IS THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER
11:33:13AM MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
11:33:15AM THEY MANAGE ALL BODIES OF WATER IN THE AREA AND WE HAVE TO
11:33:21AM MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND PERMIT APPROVALS FOR ANY POND
11:33:24AM CONSTRUCTION OR MODIFICATIONS.
11:33:25AM THEN ANOTHER QUESTION WAS, APPARENTLY SOMEONE IS NOTICING
11:33:32AM THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER IN THE POND OR AT
11:33:35AM DIFFERENT TIMES.
11:33:36AM AS MENTIONED, THE POND IS DESIGNED TO TEMPORARILY STORE A
11:33:39AM CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER AND GET RELEASED INTO THE SYSTEM.
11:33:43AM THE OTHER COMPONENT IS THERE TO FILTER INTO THE GROUND FOR
11:33:47AM WATER TREATMENT PURPOSES.
11:33:48AM SO OUR PONDS, IF YOU GO AROUND THE CITY, SOME OF THE WATER
11:33:51AM ELEVATION IS HIGHER.
11:33:52AM SOME IS LOWER.
11:33:53AM THAT DEPENDS ON SOIL CONDITIONS, THE WATER TABLE ELEVATIONS,
11:33:58AM RECENT RAIN EVENTS THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, UPSTREAM AND
11:34:02AM DOWNSTREAM PIPE SYSTEMS.
11:34:04AM THERE'S NO EXACT ELEVATION, ANY PARTICULAR POND SHOULD BE
11:34:07AM HOLDING ANY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER.
11:34:10AM IT IS VERY DYNAMIC DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS IN THAT
11:34:12AM PARTICULAR POND.
11:34:14AM THE NEXT QUESTION WAS REGARDING THE SIZE OF THE POND.
11:34:16AM IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 12 ACRES IN SIZE.
11:34:19AM AGAIN IT DRAINS ABOUT A 200-ACRE AREA GENERALLY TO THE
11:34:24AM NORTH.
11:34:24AM ALSO, THE POND IS ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL.
11:34:29AM THAT ZONING HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS.
11:34:32AM IT WAS BACK IN 1944 ZONED AS R-4 MULTIFAMILY FOR REASONS
11:34:40AM THAT I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS OF, IN 1986 CHANGED TO RM-16
11:34:44AM ZONING, PROBABLY JUST TO BRING IT INTO CURRENT ZONING
11:34:47AM CONFORMANCE AT THE TIME.
11:34:48AM BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR
11:34:51AM STORMWATER PURPOSES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE STORMWATER PONDS
11:34:55AM IN ALL OF OUR AREAS, WHETHER INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL,
11:34:57AM RESIDENTIAL PONDS ARE REQUIRED.
11:35:00AM SO THE ZONING IS REALLY NOT A FACTOR IN TERMS OF HAVING A
11:35:03AM POND THERE OR NOT.
11:35:04AM AND THIS IS JUST A MAP WHICH OBVIOUSLY FOR THE AUDIENCE IS
11:35:10AM TOO HARD TO SEE, BUT JUST SHOWING THAT ZONING AROUND THAT
11:35:13AM POND AREA.
11:35:14AM NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT MAYBE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT
11:35:19AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE POND.
11:35:21AM THE QUESTION WAS THAT THERE'S INTEREST IN MAYBE A GROCERY
11:35:25AM STORE OR SOME OTHER USABLE PURPOSE FOR SOME OF THE LAND THAT
11:35:28AM THIS POND IS ON.
11:35:30AM THERE IS A FOOD NEED IN THE AREA.
11:35:34AM THERE IS A DOCUMENTED FOOD DESERT.
11:35:36AM APPARENTLY, THERE'S SOME INTEREST OUT THERE FOR REPURPOSING
11:35:40AM PART OF THE LAND FOR THE POND FOR THIS.
11:35:45AM WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL COST TO HAVE THIS RESEARCH AND STUDY?
11:35:48AM BASICALLY, THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO RECONFIGURE THE POND AND
11:35:53AM CREATE A DEVELOPABLE PARCEL WITHIN THAT 12-ACRE FOOTPRINT OF
11:35:57AM THE POND.
11:35:58AM AND ANY RECONFIGURATION THAT WE DO WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE
11:36:04AM S.W.F.W.M.D. CRITERIA FOR DESIGN AS WELL AS OUR CITY OF
11:36:07AM TAMPA DESIGN CRITERIA.
11:36:09AM WE DO NOT HAVE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS
11:36:14AM BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THAT DEVELOPER
11:36:18AM WHO WANTS TO PROPOSE SOMETHING TO US.
11:36:20AM THE NEXT AND LAST QUESTION WAS, IS THE CITY WILLING TO
11:36:25AM RESEARCH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SINCE THE AREA WOULD BE USED
11:36:28AM FOR PUBLIC USE?
11:36:29AM SO BASICALLY, A DEVELOPER WOULD NEED TO COME IN WITH A
11:36:32AM PROPOSAL TO US THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.
11:36:36AM AND CITY DESIGN CRITERIA.
11:36:38AM WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADEQUATE INFORMATION TO REACT TO ANYTHING
11:36:42AM AS FAR AS THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE POND.
11:36:45AM THAT WOULD BE A POND -- THE PERSON WHO WOULD WANT TO COME IN
11:36:49AM WITH SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
11:36:52AM AND OUR CAPITAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE FOR STORMWATER
11:36:54AM ASSESSMENT, THE WAY THEY WERE IDENTIFIED IN OUR ORDINANCE
11:36:58AM AND PLACED UPON OUR CITIZENS FOR COLLECTION, WE DON'T HAVE
11:37:01AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND THOSE FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, BUT
11:37:05AM WE CERTAINLY ARE HERE IN REVIEW MODE AND SUPPORT MODE IF A
11:37:09AM DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN AND PROPOSE SOMETHING FOR THIS
11:37:12AM SITE.
11:37:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. DUNCAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
11:37:18AM WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS.
11:37:19AM GENTLEMEN, IT'S A LONG TIME COMING.
11:37:21AM WE HAVE SEVERAL HUGE RETENTION PONDS IN THE DISTRICT.
11:37:27AM TO FIND OUT THIS IS 12 ACRES, IT'S A LOT OF LAND.
11:37:32AM THERE HASN'T BEEN WATER IN THAT PROPERTY SINCE I DON'T KNOW
11:37:35AM WHEN.
11:37:36AM BUT THE PURPOSE, AND I HEAR OF THE NEW UPTOWN.
11:37:40AM I HEAR THE MIDTOWN.
11:37:42AM I'M LOOKING FOR EAST TOWN.
11:37:45AM I THINK IT'S THAT TIME FOR US TO GO THE NEXT STEP.
11:37:50AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL NEED A LITTLE PERSONAL PRIVILEGE RIGHT
11:37:53AM NOW, SIR.
11:37:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS
11:37:56AM TIME.
11:37:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
11:37:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
11:37:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
11:37:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
11:38:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
11:38:03AM HERE.
11:38:03AM I'M REQUESTING THAT MICHELLE VAN LOAN WORK WITH THE
11:38:06AM COMMUNITY ADVISORY CHAIR TO CREATE A TASK FORCE FOR
11:38:08AM DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL POND AND ANY ADJOINING CITY
11:38:11AM OR CRA OWNED PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 26th AVENUE, 26th
11:38:15AM STREET.
11:38:15AM THE TASK FORCE SHOULD LOOK INTO WHAT THE PEOPLE RESIDING IN
11:38:18AM THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WELL AS INCLUDE
11:38:21AM POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO SEE WHAT DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO
11:38:24AM BUILD.
11:38:24AM AN UPDATE SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITHIN 60 DAYS.
11:38:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:32AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:33AM IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
11:38:36AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:38:37AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, MR. CHAIR.
11:38:38AM I THINK IT'S AN EXCITING PROPOSITION.
11:38:41AM THERE IS PRECEDENT AND JEAN WILL PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS, YOU
11:38:46AM KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE VALUABLE PROPERTY THAT HAPPENS TO BE
11:38:51AM STORMWATER RETENTION, YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT YOU
11:38:55AM NEED THE STORMWATER RETENTION, BUT IN CERTAIN PLACES, THEY
11:39:01AM ENGINEER AND THEY LEAVE IT UNDERGROUND.
11:39:03AM THEY VAULT IT.
11:39:05AM DEVELOPERS CAN VAULT IT UNDERGROUND, RIGHT NEXT TO MEMORIAL
11:39:08AM HOSPITAL, WE DID THAT YEARS AGO WHEN THEY PUT A PARKING DECK
11:39:11AM ABOVE IT AND COULD HAVE KEPT GOING IF THEY WANTED TO.
11:39:14AM SO THERE'S PLENTY OF PRECEDENT FOR IT IN THE AREA, BUT IT
11:39:18AM DOES TAKE MONEY.
11:39:20AM IF WE COULD GET DEVELOPERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN DOING
11:39:23AM THAT, I'M SURE WE COULD WORK WITH THEM.
11:39:25AM I SUPPORT THE MOTION.
11:39:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A
11:39:30AM FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
11:39:30AM I'M JUST STATING.
11:39:32AM DO WE HAVE A HYDROENGINEER ON STAFF FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA?
11:39:36AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, WE HAVE THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING TEAM,
11:39:38AM SO YES.
11:39:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE ALSO HAVE THEIR REPORT ON THIS CAUSE
11:39:41AM AND EFFECT?
11:39:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: AGAIN --
11:39:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIMPLY BECAUSE WE SEE OUR FLOODING PROBLEM
11:39:48AM IN THIS CITY.
11:39:50AM IF WE'RE TAKING AWAY THIS RETENTION POND, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
11:39:53AM TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS?
11:39:54AM YOU SAID HOW MANY ACRES DRAIN INTO THIS AREA?
11:39:59AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: RIGHT.
11:39:59AM IT HANDLES ABOUT A 200-ACRE BASIN THAT DRAINS INTO IT.
11:40:03AM WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO
11:40:06AM RECONFIGURE AND REDESIGN --
11:40:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:40:09AM I JUST WOULD LIKE CAUSE AND EFFECT.
11:40:11AM THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.
11:40:12AM THERE IS A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:40:14AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:15AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:40:17AM ALL OPPOSED?
11:40:17AM THE MOTION PASSES.
11:40:19AM THANK YOU, MS. DUNCAN.
11:40:20AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: OKAY.
11:40:21AM THANK YOU.
11:40:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. VAN LOAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR US
11:40:31AM NOW OR IS IT MR. DIAL?
11:40:32AM WE'RE NOW GOING TO NUMBER 7.
11:40:34AM MR. DIAL.
11:40:35AM THANK YOU.
11:40:35AM YOU'RE COMING UP HERE FOR HIM.
11:40:35AM THANK YOU.
11:40:36AM PLEASURE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
11:40:44AM >>BRAD SUDER: GOOD MORNING.
11:40:48AM MY NAME IS BRAD SUDER WITH PARKS AND RECREATION.
11:40:49AM I'M HERE TO REPORT ON THE KID MASON EVALUATION.
11:40:51AM I WAS ASKED TO EVALUATE THE FACILITY.
11:40:55AM I MET WITH SEVERAL PARKS AND REC PERSONNEL WHO OPERATE THE
11:40:58AM FACILITY TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, HOW THEIR
11:41:00AM PROGRAMMING IS AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THE KIDS AND ADULTS
11:41:02AM THAT UTILIZE THE FACILITY.
11:41:03AM WE HAD DEVELOPED A POTENTIAL SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH DOES
11:41:09AM SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY ITSELF.
11:41:11AM AS THAT PROGRAM FOR IMPROVEMENTS -- POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS
11:41:15AM WAS DEVELOPED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE REALLY NEEDED AN
11:41:18AM ARCHITECT ENGINEERING TEAM, A CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THE
11:41:23AM PERMIT DOCUMENTS, THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, AS WELL AS THE
11:41:25AM HARD ESTIMATES OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE.
11:41:28AM FORMAL START-UP FORM HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO CONTRACT
11:41:33AM ADMINISTRATION TO SELECT A CONSULTANT THROUGH THE WORK ORDER
11:41:37AM SYSTEM.
11:41:38AM AND THAT PROCESS, THEY ARE DOING THEIR EVALUATIONS NOW TO
11:41:40AM COME BACK TO PARKS AND RECREATION WITH A RECOMMENDED
11:41:43AM CONSULTANT.
11:41:44AM SOME OF THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE THE ENTRANCE
11:41:50AM EXPERIENCE IMPROVEMENT.
11:41:52AM RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT CHECK-IN AND
11:41:56AM THE EFFICIENCY OF THE CHECKOUT SYSTEM AS WELL AS JUST SOME
11:42:00AM BETTER SECURITY MEASURES IN THAT AREA.
11:42:02AM THE RESTROOMS NEED UPGRADING.
11:42:05AM ADA COMPLIANCE AS WELL AS MODERNIZING THE KITCHEN THAT'S
11:42:11AM DESIRED TO BE UPGRADED FOR IMPROVED PERFORMANCE WITH THE
11:42:14AM LARGE EVENT SPACE.
11:42:16AM NEW FLOORING IS REQUESTED.
11:42:18AM YOU KNOW THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW HAS SOME BARS ON THE
11:42:23AM WINDOWS.
11:42:24AM THAT'S SOME SAFETY CONCERNS AS WELL AS NOT REAL GOOD
11:42:29AM AESTHETIC.
11:42:29AM WE WOULD REPLACE ALL THE WINDOWS IN THE FACILITY WITH IMPACT
11:42:33AM RESISTANT GLASS AS WELL AS IMPROVE THE GROUNDS AS WELL.
11:42:36AM STAFF IS ASKING FOR A SMALL PLAYGROUND TO BE PUT OUT FRONT
11:42:41AM AND FENCED IN AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR PROGRAMMING,
11:42:45AM GARDENING SPACE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
11:42:47AM WHEN YOU MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THE
11:42:50AM FACILITY UP TO CURRENT FIRE CODES, AGAIN, IMPROVING SAFETY
11:42:54AM AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS CODE COMPLIANT.
11:42:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:43:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT ABOUT THOSE OFFICES AND ALSO THE
11:43:05AM MIDDLE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE OF THE
11:43:08AM BUILDING?
11:43:08AM I GUESS THAT IS THE PLAY ROOM OR THE ROOM -- I WENT THERE
11:43:12AM AND IT'S A MESS IN THERE.
11:43:13AM THE WHOLE FACILITY INSIDE IS SO OLD.
11:43:16AM IT'S JUST A MESS IN THERE.
11:43:18AM >>BRAD SUDER: YEAH, THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING AT HOW THEY WANT
11:43:21AM TO PROGRAM THAT BUILDING AND HOW THEY WANT TO ATTRACT MORE
11:43:25AM KIDS BACK TO THAT BUILDING.
11:43:26AM THE COMPUTER LAB CERTAINLY IS GOING TO GET AN UPGRADE, NOT
11:43:30AM ONLY JUST THE COMPUTERS THEMSELVES, BUT THE STATIONS, THE
11:43:35AM WAY THE LIGHT INTERACTS WITH THE COMPUTERS.
11:43:38AM THEY'VE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN HAVING A SMALL WORKOUT
11:43:42AM FACILITY IN THAT AREA THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
11:43:45AM THAT ALSO ACTS AS A SECOND MODE OF EGRESS IN THE BUILDING,
11:43:49AM SO THAT DOES NEED TO STAY CLEAR TO, AGAIN, SAFETY IS FIRST.
11:43:54AM THE OFFICES, MAIN OFFICE UP NEAR THE FRONT WHICH WE'RE GOING
11:43:59AM TO ADD A WINDOW TO ALLOW BETTER VISIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE
11:44:05AM WHOLE STRUCTURE, INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
11:44:07AM THERE'S ALSO SOME DESIRE TO PUT A CLEAR-STORY WINDOW IN THE
11:44:13AM LARGE ROOM.
11:44:13AM THE ROOM IS A LITTLE DARK, AND THAT WOULD BE VERY HIGH, NEAR
11:44:19AM THE CEILING, WHICH THEN WOULD ALLOW LIGHT IN AND CERTAINLY
11:44:21AM WOULD NOT IMPACT THE MURAL ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE WALL.
11:44:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, THAT MURAL IS VERY, VERY PRECIOUS TO
11:44:29AM THE OUTSIDE.
11:44:29AM I'M GLAD WE'RE WORKING.
11:44:31AM I'M GLAD I WAS ABLE TO GET COMMUNITY PEOPLE THAT CALLED ME
11:44:35AM ABOUT KID MASON AND GO OVER THERE.
11:44:37AM I KNOW SOME OF THE STAFF AND AIDES WENT OVER AND LOOKED AT
11:44:41AM THE PLACE.
11:44:42AM I'M GLAD THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP GOT THE -- THE CRA
11:44:45AM GOT INVOLVED WITH THE SITUATION NOW BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
11:44:47AM THEY REALLY KNEW ABOUT THAT.
11:44:49AM I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO PUT LIGHT TO GET TO THEM TO HELP US
11:44:53AM OUT WITH THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS A PROJECT THAT IS NEEDED
11:44:56AM BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF KIDS COMING BACK IN THE AREA
11:44:58AM WITH ALL THE NEW BUILDINGS GOING UP ACROSS THE STREET IN
11:45:00AM CENTRAL PARK.
11:45:01AM WE NEED TO UPGRADE THAT BECAUSE IT IS A MESS OVER THERE.
11:45:04AM THANK YOU.
11:45:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:45:07AM THANK YOU.
11:45:07AM I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXTEND OUR TIME UNTIL 12:30 SO
11:45:14AM WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:45:16AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
11:45:21AM MANISCALCO.
11:45:22AM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
11:45:23AM ALL OPPOSED.
11:45:24AM THANK YOU.
11:45:24AM MOTION PASSES.
11:45:25AM NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:45:27AM EACH PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES.
11:45:30AM PLEASE, PROCEED.
11:45:31AM COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
11:45:37AM >> IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
11:45:40AM OTHERS, HOW CAN WE CONCEDE THAT TIME?
11:45:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNSEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE?
11:45:48AM WHAT I ACTUALLY NEEDED WAS A LIST OF NAMES FOR PEOPLE THAT
11:45:52AM WERE GOING TO SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
11:45:55AM MAKE SURE THEY WERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND YOU WERE TO
11:45:57AM RECOGNIZE THEM.
11:45:58AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OKAY.
11:45:59AM UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL PROCEDURES, WHICH THE CRA FOLLOWS, IF
11:46:04AM SOMEONE ELSE IS HERE AND IS WILLING TO GIVE THEIR RIGHT TO
11:46:09AM SPEAK TO YOU, YOU CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR EACH
11:46:12AM PERSON.
11:46:13AM WE NEED THEIR NAMES, THOUGH, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY ARE
11:46:16AM HERE OR IF THEY ARE ALL HERE, THEY CAN JUST COME TO THE
11:46:19AM MICROPHONE AND GIVE THEIR NAME AND SAY IT AS WELL.
11:46:22AM CAN DO IT THAT WAY, IF YOU HAVEN'T FILLED OUT A SHEET AHEAD
11:46:25AM OF TIME.
11:46:26AM THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SHEETS OUTSIDE THE DOOR FOR THIS.
11:46:29AM >> THANK YOU.
11:46:30AM WE'LL LET THIS GENTLEMAN GO FIRST.
11:46:40AM >> METESMOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:46:44AM PIMPS, PUSSY, PROSTITUTES, POLITICIANS, THE SAME ONE, ALL
11:46:48AM Ps.
11:46:49AM DON'T CARE NOTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
11:46:51AM TREAT THE PEOPLE AND THEIR FACES LIKE DIRT.
11:46:57AM NASTY.
11:46:59AM PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE, TAKE TIME FROM WORK, TAKE TIME FROM
11:47:04AM THEIR FAMILIES.
11:47:05AM GET 20, 25 DOLLAR PARKING TICKETS AND YOU PUT A BUNCH OF
11:47:11AM REGULAR REPORTS AHEAD OF THEM INSTEAD OF HAVING STRUCTURED
11:47:15AM TIME ON WHEN THE PUBLIC SPEAKS.
11:47:17AM 9 A.M.
11:47:18AM YOU ALL DO AWARDS.
11:47:19AM YOU DO CEREMONIES.
11:47:20AM YOU ALL OUTSIDE CHITCHATTING, ALL KIND OF NONSENSE.
11:47:25AM IT'S A HATE POLITICIANS HAVE FOR PEOPLE.
11:47:28AM UNTIL IT'S TIME TO GET THE VOTE.
11:47:30AM WHEN IT'S TIME TO GET THE VOTE, YOU HAVE A LOT FOR THE
11:47:35AM PEOPLE, JUST LIKE PIMPS.
11:47:37AM PIMPS AND POLITICIANS.
11:47:38AM YOU ALL IN THE SAME BASKETS.
11:47:41AM YOU ALL TREAT THE PEOPLE, YOU ALL TREAT US LIKE PROSTITUTES.
11:47:46AM WHEN ANOTHER FINE HO COMES ABOUT, FORGET THAT ONE.
11:47:49AM THIS ONE IS MAKING ME MORE MONEY.
11:47:51AM YOU ALL TREAT US SO BAD.
11:47:55AM AND NOW WE AIN'T EVEN TALKING RACIAL.
11:47:58AM YOU ALL TREAT US BAD IN BAYSHORE.
11:48:01AM YEAH, I'M OVER THERE.
11:48:02AM YOU ALL TREAT US BAD IN EAST TAMPA.
11:48:04AM YOU ALL TREAT US BAD IN HENDERSON WHERE YOU CAN'T FIX.
11:48:08AM I'M OVER THERE, TOO.
11:48:09AM YOU ALL TREAT US BAD.
11:48:12AM POLITICIANS, TREAT US NASTY.
11:48:15AM WANT TO SEND A SHOUT-OUT TO OTIS ANTHONY AND ALSO WANT TO
11:48:19AM SEND A SHOUT-OUT TO YOUR-ALL CITY ATTORNEY THAT YOU ALL
11:48:22AM CLAIM THAT JUST LEFT.
11:48:26AM GARBAGE COLLECTOR.
11:48:26AM THAT'S WHAT HE IS.
11:48:27AM AIN'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE GARBAGEMEN, NONE WHATSOEVER.
11:48:28AM HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
11:48:29AM BUT THIS SAL MAN YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT STRAIGHT GARBAGE.
11:48:33AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
11:48:34AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
11:48:37AM PRESIDED IN SEEING A LOT OF BAD STUFF GOING ON.
11:48:41AM KILLERS, MURDERS, 10 MILLION LIEN ON MY PROPERTY.
11:48:46AM ALL THAT STUFF HE PRESIDED OVER.
11:48:50AM 600,000 BICYCLE STOPS HE PRESIDED OVER.
11:48:54AM WE NEED MORE FUNDING FOR LOWRY PARK ZOO BECAUSE IN A MINUTE
11:48:59AM THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE OUTSIDE OF PRISON IN THIS CITY, THAT
11:49:01AM IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE
11:49:06AM YOU ALL TREAT US LIKE --
11:49:10AM YOU-ALL TREAT US BAD.
11:49:10AM THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE AFRICAN
11:49:14AM PEOPLE IS IN LOWRY PARK ZOO.
11:49:16AM YOU ALL RUNNING US OUT OF CENTRAL PARK, ROBLES PARK, OTHER
11:49:18AM PLACES, PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL, AND YOU GOT A GARBAGE
11:49:22AM MAN COMING FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND TALKING ABOUT
11:49:25AM THE RECIDIVISM RATE IN CENTRAL PARK.
11:49:28AM AIN'T NOBODY OVER THERE, IT LOOK DEAD, D-E-A-D, DEAD.
11:49:30AM YOU ALL RAN ALL THE FAMILIES OUT.
11:49:32AM NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
11:49:34AM BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, WE DESERVE MORE RESPECT, AND WE
11:49:39AM CAN'T COME DOWN HERE, KEEP BEGGING YOU ALL, BEGGING FOR FOUR
11:49:42AM STOPLIGHTS, TALKING ABOUT RATS OVER AT THE PARK AND ALL
11:49:46AM THIS.
11:49:46AM BLACK PEOPLE, WE DESERVE MORE THAN THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO
11:49:48AM GET IT.
11:49:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. DANIELS.
11:49:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:49:56AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL AVALOS, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN
11:49:59AM RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
11:50:01AM I KNOW SOME OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION AND SOME
11:50:03AM DON'T.
11:50:04AM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION BRIEFLY.
11:50:07AM WE ARE A COMMITTEE OF 9 MEMBER VOLUNTEERS, 100% VOLUNTEER.
11:50:12AM RECEIVE NO COMPENSATION.
11:50:14AM WE HAVE FULL-TIME RESPONSIBILITIES OUTSIDE -- AS A MATTER OF
11:50:18AM FACT, MOST OF US NEED TO GET GOING.
11:50:21AM WE BELIEVE CRITICALLY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HEAR OUR
11:50:23AM POSITION ON SOME MATTERS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US.
11:50:27AM WE REPRESENT 92 MEMBERS AND 13 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN OUR
11:50:30AM COMMUNITY IN NORTH DOWNTOWN.
11:50:31AM WE ARE MOTIVATED BY IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY AS IDENTIFIED IN
11:50:36AM OUR MISSION.
11:50:37AM I DO WANT TO SHARE OUR MISSION WITH YOU.
11:50:38AM OUR MISSION IS THE ASSOCIATION IS TO REPRESENT, PRIORITIZE,
11:50:41AM AND FACILITATE THE NEEDS OF TAMPA DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS.
11:50:44AM WE AIM TO ACCELERATE AND IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY, ITS STANDARD
11:50:48AM OF LIVING THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE
11:50:51AM CRA IN PARTICULAR, AND THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
11:50:53AM OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE SET UP SPECIFIC PRIORITIES,
11:50:58AM IN 2019, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE SAFETY, FACILITATING SAFETY
11:51:02AM INITIATIVES THAT IMPROVE RESIDENT BUSINESS QUALITY,
11:51:05AM COMMUNITY ESTABLISHING DELIBERATE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ADD
11:51:08AM VALUE TO OUR MEMBERS IN THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY AND OUR
11:51:11AM VISION IS TO SUSTAIN THE PHYSICAL AESTHETIC AND ACTIVATION
11:51:16AM OF DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR AND SPECIFICALLY HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
11:51:19AM HERMAN MASSEY PARK HAS BEEN ON OUR PRIORITY FOR AT LEAST
11:51:22AM THREE YEARS.
11:51:24AM DRANA IN 2017, WE FACILITATED SURVEYS WITH THE PUBLIC TO
11:51:28AM IDENTIFY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.
11:51:30AM OVERWHELMINGLY AT THE TIME, THE PUBLIC SAFETY WAS THE
11:51:33AM BIGGEST CONCERN.
11:51:34AM WE APPROACHED THE CRA FOR FUNDING AND AS A RESULT, 900,000
11:51:39AM HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO REVITALIZE THE PARK.
11:51:43AM IN 2018, THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SESSIONS INTRODUCED CARLA
11:51:47AM PRICE AS THE PROJECT MANAGER AND PROVIDED A LOT OF
11:51:50AM BACKGROUND ON THE HERMAN MASSEY PARK HISTORY AND ALSO
11:51:56AM PROVIDED HIGHLIGHTS ON THE SURVEYS AND THE FEEDBACK THAT
11:51:59AM DRANA FACILITATED AND REVIEWED FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND FROM
11:52:03AM OUR RESIDENTS.
11:52:04AM THIS YEAR, IN 2020, THE PARK DESIGN CONCEPTS WERE INTRODUCED
11:52:07AM AND PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE FACILITATED TO HEAR THE VOICE OF
11:52:10AM THE COMMUNITY ON THE DESIGN.
11:52:12AM FINAL DECISIONS HAVE BEEN CREATED METICULOUSLY BASED ON THE
11:52:16AM NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY TO PROMOTE SAFETY, FLEXIBLE SPACE,
11:52:20AM INCLUSIVE SPACE FOR SENIORS AND DOG OWNERS WHO USE THE PARK
11:52:24AM EVERY DAY.
11:52:25AM I WANTED TO USE MY TIME TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE DOWNTOWN
11:52:32AM RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
11:52:33AM I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MIKE PAONESSA, WHO ACTUALLY
11:52:34AM HAS, I THINK, AT LEAST THREE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO CONCEDE
11:52:37AM THEIR TIME TO HIM.
11:52:38AM THANK YOU.
11:52:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU HAVE THEIR NAMES?
11:52:46AM >> YES, JENNIFER JONES.
11:52:47AM BOB YEE.
11:52:49AM ROSIE YEE.
11:52:50AM AND ALSO RICHARD CAHILL.
11:52:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE PEOPLE WHO JUST RAISED THEIR HANDS, CAN
11:52:55AM YOU PLEASE HAVE A SEAT?
11:52:56AM COUNCIL, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU INSTEAD OF A LIST?
11:53:02AM >> GREAT.
11:53:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD MORNING.
11:53:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE THREE EXTRA MINUTES.
11:53:12AM >> PERFECT.
11:53:12AM THANK YOU.
11:53:12AM MY NAME IS MIKE PAONESSA, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE
11:53:12AM DOWNTOWN RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
11:53:13AM I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS, AND WE
11:53:16AM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR
11:53:18AM MORE THAN TWO YEARS ON THE REDESIGN OF HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
11:53:22AM AS YOU'RE AWARE, THERE IS NOW SIGNIFICANT CONTROVERSY
11:53:25AM SURROUNDING HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
11:53:26AM AS PART OF THE CITY'S OWN PROCESS, A DESIGN PLAN WAS
11:53:29AM APPROVED AFTER PUBLIC INPUT, FUNDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED AND
11:53:32AM THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING PHASE IS NEARLY COMPLETE.
11:53:35AM BUT NOW WE HAVE A PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNER WHO HAS -- WHO
11:53:38AM APPEARS TO HAVE GONE OUTSIDE THE CITY'S OWN DUE PROCESS AND
11:53:42AM PRESSED AND LOBBIED THE CITY TO ALLOW HER CONTROL OF A
11:53:45AM PORTION OF A PARK, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE PARK.
11:53:48AM THIS ACT WOULD CLOSE OFF MUCH OF HERMAN MASSEY PARK TO
11:53:51AM DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS WHILE BENEFITING A BUSINESS OWNER FOR
11:53:55AM THEIR OWN PRIVATE PURPOSES.
11:53:56AM WE ARE AWARE THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA ON THE
11:54:00AM DECEMBER CRA MEETING, AND PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, AND BECAUSE
11:54:04AM WE REPRESENT DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS, DRANA IS PROACTIVELY
11:54:11AM APPEARING HERE ON OUR BEHALF TO ENSURE THAT ON THE PUBLIC
11:54:12AM RECORD THAT OUR STRONG OBJECTION IS -- WE ARE OPPOSED TO
11:54:16AM THIS DISRUPTION OF THE PROCESS.
11:54:17AM IN ADDITION, WE FEEL IT IS CRITICAL THAT COUNCIL BE FULLY
11:54:22AM AWARE OF THE FACTS SURROUNDING THE MATTER AS WE HAVE BEEN
11:54:25AM COMMUNICATED TO, AND WE ARE STATING THESE FOR PUBLIC RECORD
11:54:28AM SO THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE FULLY EDUCATED AS TO
11:54:31AM DRANA'S OWN PERSPECTIVE.
11:54:34AM POINT NUMBER 1, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, 214
11:54:39AM TYLER STREET, HAS CLAIMED IN PUBLIC FORUMS THAT SHE WAS
11:54:43AM NEVER FORMALLY NOTIFIED OF ANY MEETINGS OR HEARINGS ABOUT
11:54:46AM HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
11:54:47AM THIS IS INCORRECT.
11:54:48AM THE CRA MANAGER, ROB ROSNER, HAS CLEARLY STATED THAT THE
11:54:51AM OWNER WAS WELL AWARE OF THE EFFORTS TO REDESIGN AND
11:54:55AM REVITALIZE THE PARK FOR USE BY DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS.
11:54:58AM SECOND, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS DOCUMENTATION FROM THE
11:55:01AM PROPERTY OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE AT THE TIME WHO WAS PRESENT
11:55:03AM AT THE THIRD AND FINAL INPUT SESSION FOR THE PARK AND WHO
11:55:08AM HAS -- THE REDESIGN WAS SUPPORTED.
11:55:10AM POINT NUMBER 2, THE PROPERTY OWNER PRESENTED THEIR PLANS TO
11:55:15AM DRANA.
11:55:15AM THE PLANS INCLUDED TAKING AT THE TIME A SIGNIFICANT PORTION
11:55:20AM OF THE REAR OF HERMAN MASSEY PARK FOR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.
11:55:23AM AND AT THAT MEETING, AGAIN, THE OWNER AGAIN ATTEMPTED TO
11:55:27AM CLAIM SHE WAS UNAWARE OF THE ACTIVITY BUT WAS PUBLICLY
11:55:30AM CONTRADICTED BY CARLA PRICE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
11:55:32AM MS. PRICE PRESENTED THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH PROOF TO THE
11:55:37AM CONTRARY.
11:55:37AM POINT NUMBER THREE, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS IN PLACE A CLEARLY
11:55:41AM DEFINED PROCESS FOR THESE SORTS OF URBAN RENEWAL PROJECTS.
11:55:44AM DRANA HAS FOLLOWED THIS PROCESS TO THE LETTER AND HAS WORKED
11:55:48AM EXTENSIVELY WITH THE CRA, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND OTHER
11:55:51AM ENTITIES TO REVITALIZE THE PARK FOR ALL DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS.
11:55:55AM CONVERSELY, THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHO DOES NOT LIVE DOWNTOWN,
11:55:58AM HAS SOMEHOW INJECTED THEMSELVES INTO THE PROCESS AT THE VERY
11:56:02AM LAST MINUTE.
11:56:03AM IN POINT FOUR, THIS BUILDING IS FOUR FLOORS.
11:56:06AM IT'S SIGNIFICANT IN SIZE.
11:56:07AM ONLY TWO OF THOSE FLOORS ARE BEING UTILIZED FOR THE
11:56:11AM RESTAURANT RECOMMENDATION.
11:56:13AM SO THE QUESTION IS, IS UTILIZING PUBLIC SPACE OF THE PARK
11:56:17AM THE RIGHT USE -- APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SIZE
11:56:22AM BUILDING?
11:56:23AM POINT NUMBER 5, DRANA DOES NOT DISAGREE WITH THE POTENTIAL
11:56:27AM FOR THE RESTORATION OF OLDER AND HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
11:56:29AM IN FACT, A RESTAURANT ABUTTING THE PARK HAS MERIT.
11:56:33AM SO WE DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT.
11:56:35AM BUT NOW, THE OWNER AND LOBBYIST HAVE COME IN AT THE LAST
11:56:39AM MOMENT AND ASKING THE CITY TO STOP THE PROCESS, AND THAT IS
11:56:42AM WHAT WE OBJECT TO.
11:56:44AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DO NOT LIVE IN.
11:56:46AM FINALLY, THE PARK IS ONLY ONE-HALF ACRE.
11:56:52AM AN ADJACENT RESTAURANT IS A NICE FEATURE, LEASING THE SPACE
11:56:55AM TO PRIVATE BUSINESS MEANS THAT THE LAND IS NO LONGER PUBLIC
11:56:58AM AND WE DO NOT SUPPORT GIVING UP PUBLIC LAND FOR PRIVATE
11:57:01AM PURPOSES.
11:57:02AM IN CLOSING, DRANA HAS FORMALLY COMMUNICATED OUR POSITION TO
11:57:06AM THIS PROCESS DISRUPTION.
11:57:07AM HOWEVER, IF IT IS THE DECISION OF THIS BOARD TO ALLOW THE
11:57:11AM OWNER TO DISRUPT THE PROCESS, THEN DRANA IS ADAMANT THAT THE
11:57:16AM ENTIRE DESIGN PROCESS BE RESTARTED WITH STRICT ADHERENCE TO
11:57:19AM CITY PROTOCOLS, THAT THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY BE INVOLVED IN
11:57:22AM THIS PROCESS AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE DAY ONE WHEN DRANA
11:57:26AM INITIATED THE IDEA OF BETTER HERMAN MASSEY PARK AND THAT THE
11:57:31AM PROCESS BE EXPEDITED AS WE NOW HAVE MORE THAN TWO YEARS INTO
11:57:34AM THIS PROCESS ALREADY.
11:57:35AM FINALLY, THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MAKE SHORT-TERM UPGRADES
11:57:39AM TO THE PARK TO ENHANCE ITS USABILITY WHILE THE PROCESS IS
11:57:41AM STARTED OVER.
11:57:42AM SPECIFICALLY, THE PARK RIGHT NOW IS SOLID DIRT.
11:57:46AM THE DOG OWNERS ARE INCREASING AND THEIR USAGE OF THE PARK
11:57:50AM FREQUENTLY MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, WE ARE THE PRIMARY USERS OF
11:57:54AM THIS PARK.
11:57:55AM AND SO WHILE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS EXTENSION OF THIS
11:57:58AM PROCESS, WE ARE ASKING THE CRA TO DO SOMETHING TO THE PARK
11:58:01AM TO HELP SUPPORT IT NOW SO THAT WE ARE NOT LETTING OUR DOGS
11:58:05AM RUN AROUND IN DIRT.
11:58:06AM WITH THAT, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
11:58:09AM CONTINUING THIS DIALOGUE AT THE NEXT CRA MEETING.
11:58:11AM THANK YOU.
11:58:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:13AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:58:20AM >> I'M DAN, A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT.
11:58:22AM OKAY IF I USE THE CAMERA OVER HERE?
11:58:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
11:58:25AM >> SO THIS IS THE --
11:58:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE IS A BUTTON ON THE TOP THAT WILL ZOOM
11:58:32AM IN AND OUT.
11:58:34AM >> THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS
11:58:37AM DEVELOPED FOR THE PARK BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT SO FAR.
11:58:41AM THE PURPLE AREA UP HERE IS THE BUILDING IN QUESTION WHERE
11:58:43AM THEY WANT TO PUT A RESTAURANT.
11:58:44AM THEY WANT TO TAKE -- THEY WANT A -- THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE
11:58:55AM THE AREAS THAT WERE TO BE THE DOG PARK AND CREATE A SEATING
11:58:58AM AREA FOR THE RESTAURANT UP HERE.
11:59:00AM ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT DRANA ASKED FOR THE CITY TO
11:59:05AM REDEVELOP THIS PARK WAS BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH
11:59:09AM HOMELESSNESS, DRUG DEALING AND USAGE AND SO FORTH.
11:59:13AM PEOPLE LEAVING THEIR BELONGINGS, SHOPPING CARTS FULL OF
11:59:16AM ITEMS IN THE PARK.
11:59:17AM THE REASON IT'S SO ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO DO THESE TYPES
11:59:20AM OF ACTIVITIES IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PARK IS VERY WALLED
11:59:22AM IN, FENCED IN, GOT A LOT OF WALLS AND NOOKS AND CRANNIES.
11:59:26AM IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO SLEEP IN THE CRANNY AND
11:59:29AM LEAVE THEIR BELONGINGS BACK BEHIND THE WALL AND SO FORTH.
11:59:33AM WE WANTED TO CLEAR IT OUT AND MAKE IT MORE OPEN TO SEE IT
11:59:36AM FROM THE STREET BETTER.
11:59:37AM THAT WOULD KIND OF DISCOURAGE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES GOING
11:59:39AM ON THERE.
11:59:40AM ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT IF THIS RESTAURANT WERE TO
11:59:46AM SOMEHOW COME IN HERE AND TAKE OVER THE SEATING AREA IN THE
11:59:50AM BACK OF THE PARK, WHAT HAPPENS IF MS. MALKA OVER HERE IS NOT
11:59:56AM ABLE TO GET THE RESTAURANT UP ON LEGS AND RUNNING OR WHAT IF
12:00:01PM THE RESTAURANT OPENS AND THEN IT CLOSES IN A COUPLE OF
12:00:04PM YEARS?
12:00:04PM WHAT HAPPENS IS IN THE BACK OF THE PARK HERE, WE HAVE A
12:00:07PM LARGE SEATING AREA WHICH IS NOTHING.
12:00:09PM IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE OPEN AREA, WHICH IS NOT USED AND
12:00:13PM IT'S GOING TO EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING NOW WITH
12:00:16PM HOMELESS PEOPLE, PEOPLE LEAVING THEIR BELONGINGS, ILLEGAL
12:00:20PM ACTIVITIES GOING ON BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN UNUSED
12:00:22PM SECTION IN THE BACK OF THE PARK IF THE RESTAURANT WERE TO
12:00:24PM NOT BE LIABLE, THAT WOULD MAKE OUR PROBLEM WORSE.
12:00:30PM AT THE CRA CAC MEETING LAST WEEK, NICK CALDERONE, IS THE
12:00:41PM RESTAURANTEUR, HE WAS ASKED HOW MANY SEATS YOU NEED TO MAKE
12:00:44PM THE RESTAURANT VIABLE?
12:00:46PM HE SAID 120 SEATS.
12:00:47PM HE WAS ASKED TO CONFIRM IS THAT INDOORS AND OUTDOORS.
12:00:51PM HE SAID YES, INDOORS, OUTDOORS, NEED A TOTAL OF 120 SEATS.
12:00:55PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN HE SUBMITTED, THERE ARE 116 SEATS
12:00:59PM INSIDE AND ON THE ROOF AND THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER 16 SEATS
12:01:02PM IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANT, WHICH MAKES A TOTAL OF 132
12:01:06PM SEATS.
12:01:06PM HE SAYS HE ONLY NEEDS 120 SEATS TO MAKE THE PROJECT VIABLE.
12:01:10PM HE HAS 132 WITHIN THE BUILDING ALREADY.
12:01:13PM AND THEN HE WANTS TO ADD ANOTHER HUNDRED IN THE PARK.
12:01:16PM THAT WOULD BE ALMOST 250 SEATS FOR ONLY 120 THAT HE ACTUALLY
12:01:21PM NEEDS TO MAKE THE PROJECT VIABLE.
12:01:22PM THANK YOU.
12:01:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:01:24PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:01:26PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:01:28PM GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER, 400 EAST HARRISON STREET IN DOWNTOWN
12:01:32PM TAMPA.
12:01:33PM I SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE REDESIGN FOR HERMAN
12:01:39PM MASSEY PARK.
12:01:40PM IT IS AN INCLUSIVE DESIGN THAT WAS CREATED IN UNITY BETWEEN
12:01:44PM DOG OWNERS, NON-DOG OWNERS, SENIORS, THE DISABLED AND RICH
12:01:49PM AND POOR RESIDENTS IN NORTH DOWNTOWN.
12:01:53PM WE NEVER HAD ANY DISSENSION DURING THE ENTIRE TWO-YEAR
12:01:59PM PROCESS UNTIL NOW.
12:02:01PM I AM HEARTBROKEN THAT THE DOWNTOWN CRA CAC, THE MAJORITY OF
12:02:07PM WHOM DO NOT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, VOTED TO DISRUPT OUR
12:02:12PM PLANS FOR AN INCLUSIVE PARK SO THAT A DEVELOPER CAN SEEK
12:02:17PM PRIVATE USE OF OUR PUBLIC SPACE.
12:02:20PM WE DON'T WANT HALF A PARK.
12:02:22PM WE STAND TO LOSE OUR DOMINOES TABLE, OUR EVENT SPACE, AND
12:02:27PM ADDITIONAL SEATING THAT OUR NON-DOG OWNERS ESPECIALLY
12:02:33PM REQUESTED.
12:02:33PM OUR SENIORS WHO PARTICIPATED WOULD RATHER HAVE A SHADED,
12:02:38PM CONSISTENT PUBLIC SPACE TO GATHER PROMISES OF AFFORDABLE
12:02:47PM DINING WHICH ARE NOT GUARANTEED.
12:02:48PM AND THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSED CAFE SEATING INCURSION IS
12:02:53PM TAKING A CHUNK OF OUR TREE CANOPY.
12:02:56PM WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY PRESERVED, BUT
12:03:01PM NOT AT OUR EXPENSE.
12:03:03PM I AM ASKING MY ELECTED LEADERS, WHOM I VOTED FOR, TO HELP US
12:03:08PM RETAIN THE ONLY PUBLIC SPACE WE HAVE IN OUR NORTH DOWNTOWN
12:03:14PM COMMUNITY.
12:03:14PM PLEASE REVERSE THIS ALARMING TREND WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS,
12:03:19PM ORDINARY PEOPLE, AND PUBLIC SPACES ARE BEING BESIEGED BY
12:03:24PM SPECIAL INTERESTS.
12:03:27PM OVERTURN THE DECISION TO CHANGE THE PARK AND ADHERE TO THE
12:03:31PM CITIZENS' INPUT.
12:03:33PM WE SPENT TWO YEARS COLLABORATING IN COMING UP WITH AN
12:03:38PM INCLUSIVE PLAN THAT REFLECTED TRUE COMMUNITY AGREEMENT.
12:03:43PM THE CITY NEEDS TO BACK THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY
12:03:47PM GATHERING SPACE REDESIGN FOR HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
12:03:52PM PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US.
12:03:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:03:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT PLEASE.
12:04:01PM >> CONNIE BURTON.
12:04:04PM WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING CONSTANTLY IS THAT IN EAST TAMPA, THE
12:04:10PM CRA IS NOT FUNCTIONING THAT GIVE REAL PEOPLE POWER.
12:04:15PM IDEAS COMING FROM THE BOTTOM UP.
12:04:19PM WHAT I SAW HAPPEN HERE IN THORNING IS WHAT IT REALLY MEANS
12:04:22PM THAT WHEN TOTAL CONTROL HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE.
12:04:26PM SO ONCE UPON A TIME, YOU HAD LOTS -- I'M TALKING TO YOU
12:04:30PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAD LOTS WHEN YOU WAS ON THE CAC BOARD
12:04:36PM AND DOMAIN HOMES COME, GROCERY STORE IDEA, WENT AWAY.
12:04:41PM DIDN'T FIGHT FOR IT.
12:04:42PM ALL WENT AWAY.
12:04:43PM BUT THIS MORNING, A PIECE OF PAPER, LOOKING AT THE RETENTION
12:04:47PM POND.
12:04:47PM AIN'T NO BAD IDEA BUT LET IT COME FROM THE PEOPLE.
12:04:50PM SHOW ME THE MINUTES WHERE THAT'S BEEN OUR TOP PRIORITY.
12:04:53PM SHOW ME THE MINUTES WHERE A MILLION DOLLARS IS GOING OVER
12:04:56PM THERE TO THE AL BARNES PARK HAS BEEN A TOP PRIORITY OF THAT
12:05:01PM COMMUNITY WHEN WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHEN THE MEDIUM
12:05:04PM INCOME OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY MAKES LESS THAN
12:05:08PM $30,000 AND GET ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING IN
12:05:13PM HOME DEVELOPMENT WITH THEIR OWN CREW TO BUILD THE HOUSES IS
12:05:18PM OVER $200,000.
12:05:19PM YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING BUT COMMITTING ECONOMIC GENOCIDE,
12:05:24PM GENTRIFICATION TO PUSH THE COMMUNITY OUT.
12:05:26PM LET'S LAY IT OUT.
12:05:27PM SHOWING PICTURES ABOUT PICKING UP TRASH AND SOMEBODY MAKE
12:05:31PM $144,000.
12:05:32PM THAT'S A SHAME IN ITSELF.
12:05:34PM COULDN'T PEOPLE GIVE A PRESENTATION TO SAY, CHRISTMAS
12:05:37PM LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE IN EAST TAMPA TO LIFT THE SPIRIT OF
12:05:41PM OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS A THIRD THOUGHT FOR OUR
12:05:46PM COMMUNITY, TO SHOW US IN OUR WORST POSSIBLE LIGHT.
12:05:50PM AND THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
12:05:51PM I'LL TELL YOU, I WON'T BE SPENDING MY TIME COMING DOWN HERE
12:05:57PM TALKING TO YOU ANYMORE.
12:05:58PM WE DONE TALKED OUT.
12:06:00PM WE DONE TALK TO GWEN MILLER, WE DONE TALK TO KEVIN WHITE, WE
12:06:02PM DONE TALK TO FRANK REDDICK.
12:06:08PM NOW WE'RE TALKING TO YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY STILL LOOK THE
12:06:09PM SAME WAY.
12:06:10PM LIGHTS AND THE SUPER BOWL AND EVERYBODY IS HERE, MAYBE
12:06:15PM NATIONALLY YOU WILL BE WILLING TO SPEAK TO US.
12:06:18PM IT'S A SHAME.
12:06:18PM IT IS A DISGRACE THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, AND I
12:06:24PM TALK TO YOU SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOMES, TINY HOMES, CONTAINER
12:06:28PM HOMES.
12:06:28PM NO MOTION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
12:06:30PM YOU KNOW WHY?
12:06:31PM BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR WISH.
12:06:33PM KEEP ON HAVING THE PEOPLE BEGGING, PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY
12:06:38PM THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP ON FIGHTING FOR THE SAME RESOURCES.
12:06:41PM WE TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
12:06:44PM WE AIN'T TALKING ABOUT FINDING OUT HOW MANY RATS OVER THERE.
12:06:47PM WE WANT A NEW DAMN BUILDING.
12:06:49PM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
12:06:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:06:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. BURTON, YOU KNOW, IT SADDENS ME THAT
12:07:03PM YOU TALKED ABOUT CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.
12:07:06PM FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON
12:07:08PM GETTING THE CHRISTMAS TREE IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIFT THE
12:07:11PM SPIRITS OF THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY.
12:07:14PM I FIND NEW INFORMATION A WEEK AGO THAT WASN'T ALL TRUE
12:07:21PM BECAUSE I DID MY OWN HOMEWORK AND RESEARCH AND I'M STILL
12:07:25PM WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW TO BRING THAT TO FRUITION.
12:07:27PM SO I'M WORKING ON THAT.
12:07:29PM AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING, I'VE DONE THREE HOUSING EVENTS FOR
12:07:37PM EAST TAMPA WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.
12:07:40PM HAD ONE THREE WEEKS AGO WITH THE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO OUR
12:07:44PM COMMUNITY.
12:07:44PM WHEN I LOOKED AT THE FACES, I SAW NOBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE
12:07:47PM THAT WAS THERE.
12:07:48PM I WAS THERE.
12:07:50PM THIS WHOLE COUNCIL WAS THERE.
12:07:52PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TINY HOMES, AND YOU TALK ABOUT CONTAINER
12:07:58PM HOMES, THIS IS WHAT I SEE.
12:07:59PM YES, IT MIGHT BE A SMALL QUICK-FIX, BUT IN THE END IT WILL
12:08:05PM BRING BLIGHT AND WE'LL BE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
12:08:07PM THAT'S WHY I'M ADVOCATING TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT PROGRAMS TO
12:08:11PM GET PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A HOME RIGHT NOW, TO TRY
12:08:15PM TO GET ASSISTANCE SO THEY CAN BE ABLE TO PROSPER AND ALSO
12:08:19PM GET MONEY FOR FUNDING TO GET A HOME.
12:08:22PM I'M WORKING ON AFFORDABLE.
12:08:25PM IT MIGHT NOT --
12:08:26PM >> IT AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO ABOUT WHAT I WANT --
12:08:29PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:08:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S MY TURN!
12:08:31PM IT'S MY TURN!
12:08:32PM [SOUNDING GAVEL]
12:08:34PM [SHOUTING OVER ONE ANOTHER]
12:08:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, CAN WE CUT THIS VERY, VERY
12:08:41PM SHORT, PLEASE.
12:08:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M WORKING TO BRING WHAT WE NEED.
12:08:47PM I'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND WORK MY DARNEDEST TO BRING THE
12:08:51PM ESSENTIALS TO MY COMMUNITY.
12:08:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:08:53PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:08:54PM >> PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY -- NO, HE RESPONDED TO ME AND I'M GOING
12:08:57PM TO RESPOND TO HIM.
12:08:59PM PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY TIRED OF EMPTINESS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR
12:09:03PM WORKSHOPS BRING.
12:09:04PM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $15,000 DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE
12:09:09PM COMING OUT OF EAST TAMPA AND IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET THE
12:09:12PM MONEY, WE AIN'T INTERESTED IN THAT!
12:09:14PM BE REAL!
12:09:15PM AND WHY WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING
12:09:18PM WHEN YOU'VE GOT ED JOHNSON RIGHT THERE!
12:09:21PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:09:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT.
12:09:22PM WE'LL TAKE A RECESS.
12:09:24PM [RECESS]
12:14:08PM CRA BOARD IS NOW BACK IN SESSION.
12:14:10PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:14:12PM >> DINGFELDER?
12:14:13PM GUDES?
12:14:14PM MANISCALCO?
12:14:15PM VIERA?
12:14:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
12:14:19PM >> MIRANDA?
12:14:20PM CARLSON?
12:14:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
12:14:24PM >> AND CITRO.
12:14:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:14:29PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:14:33PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
12:14:35PM MY NAME IS VERLENE.
12:14:38PM I FOUND OUT I'M NO LONGER AFFORDABLE HOUSING MATERIAL.
12:14:44PM I FOUND OUT I'M NO LONGER LOW-INCOME HOUSING MATERIAL.
12:14:48PM I FOUND OUT RECENTLY I AM POOR HOUSING MATERIAL.
12:14:54PM I'M SO POOR, I CAN'T AFFORD THE OOR.
12:14:59PM WE HAVE UNHEALTHY CONDITIONS.
12:15:01PM WE HAVE COCKROACHES, MOLD.
12:15:04PM WE HAVE DANGEROUS CRIME.
12:15:05PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRUGS AND GANGS.
12:15:08PM LOW WATER PRESSURE, BAD SMELLS AND NOISE.
12:15:14PM BUT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS I'M OBLIGATED TO GUARANTEE POOR
12:15:22PM BLACK PEOPLE, EVERYONE THE RIGHTS TO LIVE IN SECURITY, PEACE
12:15:26PM AND DIGNITY.
12:15:29PM TODAY I WANT TO ASK, HERE IN TAMPA, WHERE DO THE POOR BLACK
12:15:33PM PEOPLE STAY AT?
12:15:34PM UNDER THE BRIDGE, BEHIND THE PARK THE GENTLEMAN WAS SPEAKING
12:15:39PM ABOUT, GATHERING OUR THINGS FROM AROUND THE CORNER.
12:15:43PM I SIT HERE THIS MORNING AND LISTEN TO ALL THE MONEY BEING
12:15:46PM SPENT, TWO, THREE, NINE, TWENTY, NINE HUNDRED, WHERE DO THE
12:15:50PM POOR.
12:15:51PM P-O-O-R LIVE?
12:15:54PM WHERE DO WE RESIDE AT?
12:15:57PM RIGHT NOW THE CONDITIONS, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THESE
12:15:59PM NUMBERS 215 OVER 121.
12:16:02PM THAT'S MY BLOOD PRESSURE LAST THURSDAY BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE
12:16:06PM HERE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT I PERSONALLY LIVE
12:16:09PM IN AND I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAVE COCKROACHES,
12:16:13PM MOLD, DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT, LOW WATER PRESSURE, BAD SMELLS
12:16:19PM AND UNNECESSARY NOISE.
12:16:20PM I CANNOT BE THE ONLY PERSON HERE.
12:16:21PM SO I COME TODAY FOR SELF.
12:16:24PM I COME FOR EVERYBODY ELSE WHO IS SO POOR THEY CAN'T AFFORD
12:16:29PM TO COME DOWN HERE TO SEE YOU.
12:16:32PM I HAVE A WORK CREDIT OF 16 WORK CREDITS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T
12:16:35PM KNOW THAT'S IN TV LAND, THE WORK CREDIT IS 20 WORK CREDITS.
12:16:39PM I HAVE 16 OF THEM.
12:16:41PM SOCIAL SECURITY WON'T GIVE ME TWO CENT OF MY MONEY.
12:16:46PM MY MONEY.
12:16:48PM I WANT BETTER LIVING CONDITIONS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE
12:16:51PM COCKROACHES.
12:16:52PM I DON'T WANT MOLD.
12:16:53PM I DON'T WANT DANGEROUS TIME.
12:16:54PM I DON'T WANT LOW WATER PRESSURES.
12:16:56PM I DON'T WANT BAD SMELL.
12:16:57PM RIGHT NOW, MY RESPIRATORY SUCKS.
12:16:59PM AGAIN, IT IS THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE
12:17:08PM ADEQUATE HOUSING, SAFE HOUSING, SECURE HOUSING, PEACE, AND
12:17:14PM TO HAVE SOME DIGNITY WHERE I RESIDE AT.
12:17:18PM RIGHT NOW, THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, I MISS THE PERSON
12:17:22PM THAT SPOKE ABOUT THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, BUT I NEED TO
12:17:25PM LET HER KNOW, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CHECK THAT NONPROFIT
12:17:27PM ORGANIZATION AND FIND OUT WHO'S SPENDING THE MONEY, BECAUSE
12:17:31PM THE GRANT MONEY I LAST HEARD ABOUT, I HAVEN'T SEEN A DIME OF
12:17:34PM IT SPENT ANYWHERE.
12:17:36PM ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
12:17:43PM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON, WHATEVER.
12:17:46PM YVETTE LEWIS, CAMPAIGN PROMISES.
12:17:49PM TRUST ME, BELIEVE IN ME.
12:17:56PM HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.
12:17:58PM THOSE ARE SOME OF THE WORDS THAT I HEARD WHEN ALL OF YOU ALL
12:18:00PM WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
12:18:02PM THIS IS WHAT I EXPECT FOR YOU ALL TO DO, BECAUSE IF YOU ASK
12:18:09PM US TO DO THIS FOR YOU THEN I'M ASKING YOU.
12:18:11PM AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY COMING DOWN HERE EVERY THURSDAY GIVING
12:18:15PM UP OUR TIME OF THE DAY, GIVING UP OUR HOURS, OUR WORK, OUR
12:18:20PM LIVELIHOOD TO COME DOWN HERE TO STATE THIS.
12:18:23PM WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO HIRE A FIRM, A LAW FIRM, OR
12:18:27PM ANYTHING TO COME SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF.
12:18:30PM WE DO IT OURSELVES.
12:18:31PM IT TAKES A LOT.
12:18:33PM SHE TALK ABOUT THE OOR, I GOT THAT.
12:18:36PM AND IT TAKES A LOT OUT OF MY TIME TO DO THAT.
12:18:38PM ONE OF THE THINGS IS, THE RESIDENTS IN EAST TAMPA HAVE BEEN
12:18:43PM OVERLOOKED, FORGOTTEN, TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, AND MOST OF THEM
12:18:49PM HAVE A SENSE OF HOPELESSNESS.
12:18:52PM I HEAR THAT THE YBOR CITY, THEY HAVE LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT
12:18:56PM BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW
12:18:58PM THAT CHRISTMAS IS COMING.
12:19:00PM WE GOT NOTHING.
12:19:02PM MY BABY CAN'T SEE NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT I PUT IN HER
12:19:07PM HOUSE.
12:19:07PM NOTHING.
12:19:08PM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
12:19:10PM SHE'S TWO YEARS OLD.
12:19:11PM SENSE OF HOPELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
12:19:16PM I WANT YOU TO KNOW, WHEN YOU ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT THE
12:19:18PM TRAINS AND TROLLEY STOPS AND EVERYTHING COMING DOWNTOWN,
12:19:21PM THAT'S A GOOD THING, BUT PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA LIVE IN
12:19:24PM DOWNTOWN, TOO.
12:19:25PM STOP A TRAIN OR TROLLEY IN EAST TAMPA.
12:19:27PM GIVE US SOMETHING TO GO ON.
12:19:31PM AND ALSO, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID FOR FAIR OAKS, REMOVING
12:19:35PM THAT ONE RAT, BUT IF WE ALL KNOW, IF ONE RAT WAS THERE,
12:19:41PM BECAUSE ONE DON'T GIVE BIRTH TO ONE WHEN IT COMES TO RODENTS
12:19:45PM AND RATS.
12:19:46PM THERE ARE MORE RATS THERE.
12:19:47PM IT IS TIME TO TEAR FAIR OAKS DOWN AND GIVE US A NEW PARK.
12:19:54PM PLEASE, GIVE US A NEW PARK.
12:19:56PM IT IS TIME FOR THAT.
12:19:57PM THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU-ALL NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE
12:20:07PM ROUNDABOUTS.
12:20:07PM YOU-ALL NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHO IS GETTING THE DEALS ON THESE
12:20:10PM ROUNDABOUTS.
12:20:10PM YOU-ALL NEED TO TALK ABOUT VOTING ON WHETHER WE SHOULD KEEP
12:20:14PM THEM OR WHETHER THEY SHOULD GO, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH
12:20:16PM OF YOU ALL SHOVING FOOD DOWN OUR THROAT AND TELLING US
12:20:22PM WHAT'S BEST FOR US.
12:20:23PM BUT YOU ALL COME TO US AND ASK US FOR OUR VOTE, AND WE WERE
12:20:31PM THERE FOR YOU.
12:20:31PM WE'RE ASKING YOU TO BE THERE FOR US.
12:20:34PM ANOTHER THING, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HE NEEDS TO REPORT TO
12:20:36PM THIS BOARD.
12:20:37PM IT DOESN'T NEED TO GO TO THE MAYOR.
12:20:39PM YOU ALL ASKED US FOR OUR VOTES.
12:20:43PM I KNOW YOU DID.
12:20:45PM I SEEN YOU AT THE PUBLIC FORUMS AND I SEEN YOU AT THE NAACP
12:20:48PM MEETINGS.
12:20:49PM THINK ABOUT THAT.
12:20:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. LEWIS.
12:20:51PM NEXT PLEASE.
12:20:51PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD JUST SAY MR. DANIELS THINKS THERE
12:20:51PM ARE SEVEN --
12:20:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:20:54PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- SEVEN RATS UP HERE THAT NEED REMOVING.
12:20:56PM RIGHT, TONY?
12:20:58PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
12:21:04PM I WOULD LIKE A POINT OF ORDER.
12:21:07PM IF COUNCIL DON'T WANT US TO SAY ANYTHING BACK TO YOU, DON'T
12:21:11PM CALL US BY NAME AND SAY THANKS TO US.
12:21:14PM POINT OF ORDER.
12:21:15PM SECONDLY, I WANT TO START ABOUT THE SUPER BOWL.
12:21:17PM I WENT TO THE MEETING THIS WEEK.
12:21:19PM THE CONTRACTS, THE BAR HAS BEEN SET TOO HIGH.
12:21:22PM I DON'T SEE ANY BLACK PEOPLE GETTING ANY WORK OUT OF THE
12:21:26PM SUPER BOWL.
12:21:28PM THEY HAVE A LIST OF CRITERIA THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD
12:21:31PM NOT BE ABLE TO MEET.
12:21:33PM THAT IS A SMOKE AND MIRROR THEY ARE DOING TALKING ABOUT THE
12:21:38PM SUPER BOWL.
12:21:38PM COMMEND THE CRA OF YBOR CITY ON THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY
12:21:41PM BROUGHT INTO THE AREA ON THEIR CHRISTMAS LIGHTING.
12:21:44PM ALL I HEAR ABOUT IN EAST TAMPA WAS BLIGHT, RODENTS, TRASH.
12:21:50PM THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE.
12:21:51PM WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO GO LOOK FOR CHRISTMAS LIGHTING IF THEY
12:21:55PM ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE THEM, THEN THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE
12:22:00PM DONE THERE.
12:22:01PM WHY BUSINESSES NOT ACCUMULATED IN EAST TAMPA.
12:22:03PM DON'T TELL US ABOUT EAST TAMPA AND ALL WE CAN SEE IS
12:22:06PM DARKNESS.
12:22:07PM THAT'S WHY OUR CHILDREN ARE ACTING THE WAY THEY ARE LOOKING
12:22:09PM AND ACTING UP, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING GAMES WITH THE
12:22:13PM MONEY.
12:22:14PM WHEN I HEAR ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND THEN I HEAR ABOUT THE CRA
12:22:19PM CHAIR HAVING TO RECUSE HERSELF BECAUSE SHE WENT ON A TRIP
12:22:24PM SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE ON, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
12:22:27PM WE CANNOT SIT HERE AND ALLOW ONE THING TO GO OVER IN EAST
12:22:30PM TAMPA AND WE GIVE CLAPS AND AWARD FOR THINGS GOING UP IN
12:22:35PM OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
12:22:36PM YOU ALL SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
12:22:37PM YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASKING THE QUESTION.
12:22:40PM WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT HERE ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT TO GET
12:22:43PM UP HERE AND SAY WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO BE SAYING TO THESE
12:22:46PM PEOPLE.
12:22:47PM ONCE AGAIN, I'LL ECHO FROM YVETTE.
12:22:51PM YOU NEED TO HAVE THE CRA EXECUTIVE BOARD MEET WITH YOU.
12:22:56PM THE MAYOR HAS ENOUGH ON HER PLATE.
12:22:58PM WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE HER ANYMORE.
12:23:00PM YOU ALL NEED TO HANDLE THAT SO BRING BUTTS IN HERE AND HOLD
12:23:03PM PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
12:23:04PM THE COMMUNITY IS SICK AND TIRED OF PAYING TAXES AND SEEING
12:23:08PM THEIR DOLLARS GO NOWHERE.
12:23:10PM FAIR OAKS, THAT IS A CENTER THAT'S BEEN USED.
12:23:12PM FROM CHILDREN, SENIORS, ALL ATTEND THIS CENTER.
12:23:15PM IT NEED TO BE TORN DOWN, WHY?
12:23:18PM BECAUSE MONEY WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR IT.
12:23:20PM WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT PROMISED.
12:23:23PM PROMISES BEING MADE OVER AND OVER AND OVER JUST TO BE
12:23:26PM BROKEN.
12:23:27PM SO THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THEY
12:23:30PM NEED TO BE ADDRESS.
12:23:31PM BUT NUMBER ONE, WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, WE DO PAY TAXES.
12:23:37PM WE NEED TO BE TREATED FAIRLY.
12:23:38PM YOUR STAFF IS ON STAFF, THEY GET PAID BY US TAXPAYERS.
12:23:42PM THEY CAN SIT.
12:23:42PM THEY CAN WAIT, BUT I PROBABLY HAVE A TICKET ON MY CAR NOW,
12:23:47PM BUT IT'S IMPORTANT.
12:23:48PM I WILL PAY THE TICKET BECAUSE I NEED TO STAND HERE AND LET
12:23:51PM MY VOICE BE HEARD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE HEARD THAT
12:23:55PM CANNOT COME DOWN HERE TO BE HEARD BECAUSE THEY CANNOT WAIT.
12:23:58PM I HAVE CLIENTS.
12:23:58PM I OWN A BUSINESS, SO I NEED TO BE ATTENDING TO MY BUSINESS.
12:24:02PM I'M NOT SOME FRUITCAKE THAT CAME BY HERE TO RAISE SAND.
12:24:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
12:24:10PM SPEAKING AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN?
12:24:11PM WE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL A QUARTER TILL ONE.
12:24:24PM THANK YOU.
12:24:26PM >> HI.
12:24:27PM JOHNNY JOHNSON.
12:24:28PM I COME DOWN HERE AGAIN.
12:24:29PM FIRST OF ALL, TO ASK YOU GUYS TO STOP THE CIRCUS THAT'S
12:24:34PM GOING ON.
12:24:34PM FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE NO ONE -- I SIT DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK
12:24:38PM AND HEAR THINGS RATTLED OFF AT THE MOUTH.
12:24:42PM AS HUMAN BEINGS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK.
12:24:45PM AGAIN, YOU CAN BRING THESE SLIDE SHOWS AND STUFF AND MAKE
12:24:48PM OUR COMMUNITY LOOK A CERTAIN WAY BUT THE FACTS ARE WHAT THEY
12:24:54PM ARE.
12:24:55PM NOBODY IS SITE CHECKING ANYTHING.
12:24:59PM I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ONE THING CALLING OUT THE TAMPA
12:25:01PM HOUSING AUTHORITY ABOUT CENTRAL PARK, EIGHT GENERATIONS OVER
12:25:04PM THERE, I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT, NOT RELOCATED.
12:25:08PM PEOPLE WAS KICKED OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING.
12:25:11PM IT WASN'T, OH, THEY MOVED IN A BETTER SPOT.
12:25:16PM THEY GOOD WHERE THEY ARE AT.
12:25:18PM DON'T WANT TO COME BACK BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY.
12:25:20PM THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
12:25:22PM HAVE PEOPLE GO OUT AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES WHO I
12:25:26PM AM ONE OF THEM AND I'M ON THE STREET TALKING TO PEOPLE EVERY
12:25:31PM DAY ABOUT OUR LIVING CONDITIONS AND WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER TO
12:25:34PM BETTER OURSELVES SINCE WE ELECT PEOPLE THAT WON'T DO IT FOR
12:25:37PM US.
12:25:38PM AGAIN, TAMPA HOUSING DID NOT RELOCATE PEOPLE.
12:25:40PM THEY RAN A ONE-STRIKE DEAL AND KICKED PEOPLE OUT.
12:25:44PM AGAIN, REBUILDING, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO REBUILD AND PUT
12:25:48PM SOME OF THE SOLID ROCK FOUNDATIONS THAT WAS THERE -- I'LL GO
12:25:52PM OVER HERE IN CENTRAL PARK WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED.
12:25:55PM BROTHER WAS BORN ON GOVERNMENT STREET.
12:25:58PM YOU ALL CALL SLUMS THAT WE HAD THE BEST OF.
12:26:01PM AGAIN, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO RELOCATE SMALL BLACK
12:26:07PM BUSINESSES INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR ONE 18,000 SQUARE FOOT,
12:26:12PM LIKE ONE OF YOU GUYS SUGGESTED BREAKING IT DOWN INTO SMALL
12:26:15PM INDIVIDUAL UNITS SO YOU CAN GET MORE, NOT ONLY USE MINORITY
12:26:19PM BECAUSE EVERYBODY GRABBING THAT LABEL, BUT MORE BLACKS IN TO
12:26:22PM BE BUSINESS OWNERS.
12:26:23PM SO, AGAIN, I'M DOWN HERE ON A CONCERN OF A CITIZEN THAT PAYS
12:26:27PM TAX, THAT VOTE, AND THAT IS GOING TO ADVOCATE AND HOLD
12:26:31PM PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT WE ARE BEING USED AND STEPPED ON AS
12:26:36PM PEOPLE.
12:26:36PM WE ARE NOT BEING GIVEN THE TOOLS PROPERLY TO BUILD ANYTHING.
12:26:46PM TELLING US TO GO TO APPLE TREES WHERE WE SHOULD BE AT AN
12:26:50PM ORANGE TREE.
12:26:50PM WE CAN GET NOTHING DONE AT AN APPLE TREE IF WE'RE SUPPOSED
12:26:54PM TO BE AT AN ORANGE TREE.
12:26:57PM SENDING UP FAKE SMOKE SCREEN.
12:27:00PM PEOPLE COMING DOWN GIVING YOU FALSE INFORMATION AND NONE OF
12:27:03PM YOU GUYS UP THERE DECIDES TO CHECK NOTHING THESE PEOPLE SAY
12:27:06PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES AND COLORATION AND
12:27:09PM ABILITY TO SPEAK AND MAKE IT SOUND BEAUTIFUL.
12:27:13PM I'M TELLING YOU AS A RESIDENT AND A PERSON OUT HERE, A LOT
12:27:17PM OF THOSE STUFF A BLATANT LIE.
12:27:20PM STRICTLY A LIE.
12:27:21PM YOU CAN ASK THE CITIZENS.
12:27:23PM PAID APPOINTED, PEOPLE LOOKING OUT FOR THEMSELVES, LOBBYISTS
12:27:28PM AND CONTRACTORS.
12:27:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:27:31PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:27:33PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:27:34PM MY NAME IS CYNTHIA HUGH.
12:27:37PM 4506 NORTH 29th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33610.
12:27:42PM I TOOK A QUOTE THAT PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA SAID.
12:27:47PM WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD.
12:27:52PM SO WHEN WE THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR NATASHA GOODLEY TO BE THE
12:27:58PM CHAIRPERSON OF THE EAST TAMPA REVITALIZATION, THEN WE SHOULD
12:28:05PM RESPECT THAT.
12:28:06PM WE SHOULD TREAT HER WITH RESPECT AND ME MYSELF, I'M 71 YEARS
12:28:11PM OLD, BUT I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN COLLEGE HILL, BELMONT
12:28:18PM HEIGHTS AND MY COWORKERS ARE ROSALEE JONES, WHO IS THE
12:28:26PM PRESIDENT OF NORTHVIEW HILLS, FRAN TATE, THE PRESIDENT OF
12:28:33PM THE JACKSON HEIGHT ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE UP IN AGE.
12:28:38PM WE NEED YOUNG PEOPLE TO STAND UP AND DO THINGS IN OUR
12:28:44PM NEIGHBORHOODS FOR US, AND IF WE BEAT THEM DOWN BEFORE THEY
12:28:48PM CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, THEN WE WON'T
12:28:51PM HAVE ANY GENERATION TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THEY'LL SEE HOW WE
12:28:55PM TREATED HER AND WILL NOT STEP UP AND TRY TO HELP US IN OUR
12:29:01PM COMMUNITIES TO DO THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
12:29:05PM SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IF YOU'RE DISSATISFIED WITH NATASHA,
12:29:12PM THEN THE NEXT MEETING, WHEN IT'S TIME TO VOTE FOR A
12:29:18PM CHAIRPERSON, THEN YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT AND GET VOTED
12:29:23PM IN OR YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT TO BECOME A BOARD MEMBER.
12:29:27PM IF WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER LIKE WE WANT TO BE TREATED AND
12:29:35PM WRAP OUR HANDS AND GIVE HER LOVE AND --
12:29:40PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:29:40PM -- IF SHE DOES NOT DO SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT DONE --
12:29:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME.
12:29:45PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:29:46PM >> THEN SHOW HER.
12:29:48PM SHOW HER.
12:29:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. BURTON, SHE HAS TIME TO TALK.
12:29:57PM >> SHE DOESN'T TALK TO ME.
12:29:59PM TALK TO YOU.
12:30:00PM >> AS I SAID, PLEASE GIVE HER THE RESPECT THAT YOU WOULD
12:30:03PM WANT AND WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS TO PUT YOUR HAT IN THE --
12:30:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
12:30:12PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:30:13PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:30:20PM >> NATASHA GOODLEY, EAST 24th AVENUE.
12:30:23PM I'VE BEEN CHAIR NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER 13 MONTHS.
12:30:29PM AS CHAIR OF THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION
12:30:35PM PARTNERSHIP, WE'VE WORKED TO ACCOMPLISH SEVERAL THINGS.
12:30:39PM WE HAVE A DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WAS TARGETED
12:30:42PM FROM THE COMMUNITY TO ASSIST RENTERS WITH TRYING TO CONVERT
12:30:46PM TO HOMEOWNERS.
12:30:48PM OUR PROGRAM IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DO ALLOW
12:30:51PM FOR -- MORTGAGES.
12:30:54PM WE PUT TOGETHER REHAB ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO HELP RESIDENTS
12:30:57PM REHAB THEIR HOMES.
12:30:58PM WE HAVE OVER 100 HOMES SET FOR DEMOLITION THAT SHOULD HAVE
12:31:03PM BEEN DEMOLISHED DECADES AGO.
12:31:05PM WE CITED OVER 37 BUSINESSES WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS
12:31:10PM THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD -- SHOULD HAVE BEEN CITED
12:31:15PM YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
12:31:16PM WE'VE HAD TONS OF ILLEGAL DUMPING REMOVED FROM OUR AREA.
12:31:20PM WE'VE HAD TREE LIMBS LIFTED AND CLEARED TO ALLOW LIGHTING,
12:31:24PM BETTER LIGHTING IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:31:26PM WE WERE PURCHASING PROPERTIES TO REMOVE THE BLIGHT AND ADD
12:31:31PM DEVELOPMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
12:31:33PM AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE THE TWO RFPs OUT AND WE HAVE OUR
12:31:37PM 12th ANNUAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE BEEN
12:31:40PM DOING FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, AND IT IS A CELEBRATION THAT
12:31:45PM THIS YEAR WILL BE AT YOUNG MIDDLE MAGNET BECAUSE OF THE
12:31:48PM WEATHER, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED AND BEEN ON
12:31:51PM THE BOOKS FOR OVER A DECADE.
12:31:53PM AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT HAS BEEN TOUGH BEING CHAIR FOR 13
12:31:59PM MONTHS.
12:31:59PM I'VE TAKEN BULLETS FROM THE ENTIRE CAC AND FOR THE
12:32:02PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
12:32:04PM UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE
12:32:09PM STOPPED ATTENDING OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO
12:32:12PM DEAL WITH -- THEY DON'T WANT TO GET PICKED ON.
12:32:15PM THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE BULLYING AND THEY DON'T
12:32:18PM WANT TO DEAL WITH THE INFIGHTING.
12:32:20PM I'VE MADE IT MY BUSINESS TO GO TO THEIR MEETINGS TO BE ABLE
12:32:22PM TO SEE WHAT IT IS THEY ACTUALLY WANT.
12:32:25PM THE BULLIES UNFORTUNATELY DON'T CARE ABOUT MAKING EAST TAMPA
12:32:30PM A BETTER PLACE.
12:32:31PM THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT REMOVING THE BLIGHT AND FOR THE MOST
12:32:34PM PART, MANY OF THEM, IT'S JUST PERSONAL GAIN.
12:32:37PM SO IN ORDER TO BRING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE HAS
12:32:41PM BEEN ASKING FOR, WE'VE HAD TO WORK TO REMOVE THE BLIGHT.
12:32:45PM WE'VE HAD TO WORK TO REMOVE THE ILLEGAL DUMPING, BECAUSE NO
12:32:49PM DEVELOPER WOULD DO ANYTHING.
12:32:51PM SO THAT'S BEEN OUR GOAL.
12:32:53PM I'VE BEEN SCRUTINIZED AND INVESTIGATED BY EVERYONE THAT
12:32:58PM ANYONE CAN THINK OF.
12:32:59PM I'VE HAD MY NAME POP UP IN SO MANY MEETINGS WITH CITY
12:33:02PM OFFICIALS THAT IT'S SICKENING.
12:33:05PM THEY CLAIM THAT I HAVE DONE IMMORAL, UNETHICAL THINGS AND MY
12:33:08PM SERVICE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
12:33:10PM BUT EVERY DEPARTMENT WHO HAS LOOKED INTO IT HAS ALL
12:33:13PM CONCLUDED THE SAME THING, THAT EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE
12:33:15PM CLAIMS ARE UNFOUNDED.
12:33:16PM THEY WANT TO BULLY ME OUT OF OFFICE.
12:33:18PM BUT IT IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE WE JUST HELD ELECTIONS IN
12:33:21PM OCTOBER, AND ANYONE WHO WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE CAC COULD
12:33:24PM STEP UP AND ACTUALLY PUT THEIR NAME --
12:33:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WRAP UP VERY QUICKLY, PLEASE.
12:33:30PM >> ANYONE WHO WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE CAC COULD FILL OUT
12:33:35PM THE APPLICATION AND BE A PART AND ANYONE ON THE CAC COULD BE
12:33:38PM CHAIR.
12:33:39PM IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT AND ACTUALLY
12:33:43PM GET INVOLVED.
12:33:44PM UNFORTUNATELY, THE BULLIES, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
12:33:47PM THANK YOU.
12:33:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:33:48PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:33:53PM >> QUINTON F. ROBINSON.
12:33:55PM RESIDENT AT 1903 MARY GOLD AVENUE.
12:33:58PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33612, DISTRICT 7 REPRESENTED BY LUIS VIERA.
12:34:04PM THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY IS TO CALL FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE
12:34:08PM OF YOU GENTLEMEN TO SEARCH YOUR SOULS ABOUT ENDING THE
12:34:11PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA CRA AS WELL AS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
12:34:15PM THESE ARE THE DISTRICTS MOST IMPORTANT, GENERATING A
12:34:17PM MAJORITY OF THE DOLLARS FOR CRAs BUT YET THEY DO NOT
12:34:21PM QUALIFY TO BE A CRA.
12:34:22PM THREE PROPONENTS THAT SUGGEST FOR AN AREA TO BE A CRA ARE
12:34:26PM SLUM, BLIGHT, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:34:29PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA DOES NOT AFFORD ANY OF THOSE THINGS TO TAKE
12:34:33PM PLACE RIGHT NOW.
12:34:34PM NEITHER DOES THE CHANNEL DISTRICT OR WATER STREET.
12:34:36PM SO WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IS THAT THESE CRAs ARE BEING
12:34:39PM UTILIZED BY DEVELOPERS FOR THEM TO GROW THEIR PROFITS AND
12:34:44PM BUILD SKY RISES TO LIFT THEIR NAMES.
12:34:48PM IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, THE COFFERS
12:34:51PM THAT WE NEED TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THIS CITY ARE GOING TO
12:34:56PM -- GOING BACK TO THESE PARTICULAR AREAS, THAT NO LONGER EVEN
12:34:59PM QUALIFY FOR A CRA.
12:35:01PM THERE'S NO SLUM IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:35:02PM THERE'S NO BLIGHT IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:35:05PM THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:35:07PM THREE THINGS THAT CRAs ARE SUPPOSED TO FIX.
12:35:11PM THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN FIXED IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:35:14PM THEY HAVE BEEN FIXED ON THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, WHY DO THEY
12:35:17PM STILL CONTINUE TO EXIST TODAY?
12:35:19PM MR. FARGO, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD QUOTE THAT IN THE
12:35:25PM PAPER AS WELL.
12:35:25PM MY TIME ISN'T UP YET.
12:35:32PM I WAS WAITING FOR A RESPONSE.
12:35:35PM AGAIN, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING NOW IS THAT THE CITY
12:35:39PM HAS TO GENERATE REVENUE.
12:35:40PM IF IT'S NOT GENERATING REVENUE FROM TAX DOLLARS OR SERVICE
12:35:43PM FEES, THOSE ARE BEING PUT BACK ON THE PEOPLE.
12:35:46PM WHY NOT TAX THE INDIVIDUALS DEVELOPING INTO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:35:49PM COMING INTO DOWNTOWN TAMPA YOU CAN SEE CRANES FROM NEBRASKA
12:35:52PM AVENUE, BUT YET EAST TAMPA IS STRUGGLING IN THEIR CRA.
12:35:58PM DREW PARK IS STRUGGLING IN THEIR CRA.
12:36:00PM ALL OF THE DOLLARS ARE COMING BACK TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA BECAUSE
12:36:03PM DEVELOPERS ARE UTILIZING IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE AND A CITY
12:36:07PM COUNCIL IS ALLOWING TO DO IT AND SO IS THE MAYOR.
12:36:11PM TIME TO STOP FOCUSING ON SPECIAL INTEREST AND GIVE BACK TO
12:36:13PM THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU AND EMPLOYED YOU TO DO THE JOB
12:36:17PM FOR THEM.
12:36:17PM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF
12:36:20PM COMMUNITIES, THE VOTE THAT YOU REPRESENT, THESE PEOPLE,
12:36:25PM REGARDLESS OF THEIR MEDIAN INCOME, THEIR RACE, WHATEVER
12:36:29PM SEXUAL ORIENTATION THAT THEY ARE, THE CRAs IN DOWNTOWN
12:36:32PM TAMPA SHOULD BE SUNSETTED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, BECAUSE
12:36:35PM THEY DO NOT DO ANYTHING THAT JUSTIFIES A GENERAL REVENUE
12:36:38PM COMING BACK TO THE CITY AND DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS OTHER
12:36:42PM AREAS.
12:36:43PM THAT HAS TO STOP.
12:36:44PM I'M ASKING EACH OF YOU GENTLEMEN TODAY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
12:36:47PM I'M STATING TODAY, PLACE IT UPON YOUR HEART AND MIND TO MAKE
12:36:50PM A DECISION TO SUNSET THE CRA IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AS WELL AS
12:36:54PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
12:36:55PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:36:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT, PLEASE.
12:36:59PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:37:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROBINSON.
12:37:04PM I DID WANT TO RESPOND QUICKLY.
12:37:18PM YOUR POINTS ARE VERY WELL TAKEN WITH THIS COUNCILMAN.
12:37:22PM TWO THINGS I WANTED TO SAY, NUMBER ONE, WE APPRECIATE YOU
12:37:25PM PUTTING YOUR NAME OUT THERE AND RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
12:37:28PM LAST GO AROUND, I KNOW MR. VIERA WOULD EVEN AGREE BECAUSE
12:37:32PM YOU GUYS HAD A GOOD, CLEAN RACE AND YOU BROUGHT UP GOOD
12:37:35PM POINTS.
12:37:35PM LOUIS BROUGHT UP GOOD POINTS, ET CETERA.
12:37:37PM WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DO IS ADDRESS WHAT YOU SAID, WHICH
12:37:43PM IS -- AND MY PERSPECTIVE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE
12:37:46PM I'M A LITTLE BIT OLDER.
12:37:48PM WHEN THEY CREATED THE CRAs, THOSE TWO CRAs, CHANNELSIDE
12:37:52PM WAS BLIGHTED.
12:37:53PM BUNCH A BOARDED UP, BOMBED OUT WAREHOUSES AND THAT SORT OF
12:37:57PM THING.
12:37:57PM AT THE TIME, I THINK BLIGHT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD DEFINITION
12:38:00PM FOR IT.
12:38:00PM THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AS WELL.
12:38:05PM DOWNTOWN IS STILL NOT PERFECT, BUT DEFINITELY HAS IMPROVED.
12:38:09PM SO I THINK THE CREATION OF THE CRAs WAS APPROPRIATE AT THE
12:38:15PM TIME, 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO WITH DOWNTOWN, TEN YEARS AGO,
12:38:19PM 10, 15 YEARS AGO WITH CHANNELSIDE.
12:38:21PM AND, YES, THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESS STORIES.
12:38:24PM THEY ARE BOTH DOING VERY WELL.
12:38:26PM THEN WE GET TO THE POINT, MR. CARLSON HAS POINTED OUT, AND
12:38:31PM YOU HAVE, TOO, AT SOME POINT MAYBE YOU LOOK AT YOUR SUCCESS
12:38:34PM STORY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES IT END AND MAYBE IT
12:38:38PM DOESN'T?
12:38:39PM I THINK YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN.
12:38:41PM I APPRECIATE YOUR WAITING AND GIVING YOUR COMMENTS.
12:38:46PM >> THANK YOU.
12:38:46PM CAN I RESPOND?
12:38:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAKE IT BRIEF.
12:38:52PM >> YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING REGARDING THE JACKSON HOUSE.
12:38:55PM JACKSON HOUSE SITS IN THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA CRA.
12:38:57PM I CONSIDER THE JACKSON HOUSE TO BE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
12:39:00PM IF YOU'RE RELOCATING IT FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER CRA, MY
12:39:04PM QUESTION IS, WHY HASN'T THE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE INVOLVED
12:39:08PM WITH THE DOWNTOWN CRA EVEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE JACKSON
12:39:12PM HOUSE TO REPAIR IT IF IT'S CONSIDERED SLUM AND BLIGHTED?
12:39:16PM THAT'S ONE POINT.
12:39:18PM YOU WOULD HAVE TO RELOCATE HISTORICAL LANDMARK TO ANOTHER
12:39:21PM CRA BEFORE YOU GET THE ATTENTION THAT IT DESERVES WHEN THE
12:39:23PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA CRA ALREADY GENERATES THE MAJORITY OF THE
12:39:26PM MONEY OF ANY OTHER CRA THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY
12:39:31PM OF TAMPA.
12:39:31PM OF COURSE, YOU DID MAKE A GREAT POINT.
12:39:34PM I'M NOT STATING THAT WHAT TOOK PLACE 30 YEARS AGO THAT THERE
12:39:37PM WASN'T SLUM, BLIGHT OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES IN DOWNTOWN
12:39:40PM TAMPA.
12:39:41PM WHAT I'M SAYING TODAY, PRESENTLY, THOSE THINGS NO LONGER
12:39:43PM EXIST AND NEITHER SHOULD THESE CRAs.
12:39:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:39:46PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:39:51PM >> WOW, MAN.
12:39:53PM FIRST OF ALL, WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF DOWNTOWN AND
12:39:56PM CHANNELSIDE TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE UP FOR RENEWAL BUT
12:40:00PM THEY HELD UP WEST TAMPA FOR THOSE TWO TO GET RENEWED BECAUSE
12:40:04PM THEY ALREADY HAD RUN THEIR TIME.
12:40:05PM NOW THEY HAVE ANOTHER 40 YEARS.
12:40:07PM OKAY.
12:40:08PM THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
12:40:09PM THEY HELD UP WEST TAMPA TO GET THOSE TWO ON THE BOOKS
12:40:13PM RENEWED, NOT A FIRST ONE, RENEWED.
12:40:16PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.
12:40:18PM I DON'T STAY THERE.
12:40:18PM I AIN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT EAST TAMPA BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT
12:40:27PM THAT'S ABOUT.
12:40:27PM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
12:40:29PM I'M HERE REQUESTING -- I'LL ASK YOU MAN.
12:40:32PM YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GET TOGETHER.
12:40:34PM HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER YET.
12:40:35PM BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, AGAIN, THE APPLICATION AIN'T FILED
12:40:39PM FOR THE HISTORICAL SIGN TO BE ON THE INTERSTATE.
12:40:41PM PLENTY OF ROOM TO PUT A SIGN.
12:40:42PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT FILLING THE APPLICATION OUT, WHICH
12:40:49PM THE SECRETARY SAID, DAVID GWYNN SAID.
12:40:55PM PLEASE SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
12:40:56PM YOU WANT ME TO DO IT FOR YOU?
12:40:58PM NOW, NEXT THING, WE WANT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
12:41:02PM I SENT THE E-MAIL AN -- I SENT THE MAYOR AN E-MAIL A MONTH
12:41:06PM AND A HALF AGO, REQUESTING THAT ALL THE CRA CENSUS TRACTS IN
12:41:09PM THE WEST TAMPA BE CONSIDERED OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
12:41:14PM BUCKHORN CAME AND MADE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT HELPED WEST
12:41:17PM RIVER.
12:41:18PM WHEN YOU GO PAST ROME, DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT, DIDN'T INCLUDE
12:41:23PM SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE.
12:41:23PM THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE NEEDED TO GIVE AN OVERLAY, JUST
12:41:26PM LIKE WE GOT AN OVERLAY FOR DESIGN GUIDELINES, WE NEED --
12:41:30PM THAT IS ANOTHER WAY TO BOOST THE CRA IS TO MAKE SURE THERE
12:41:34PM ARE OPPORTUNITY ZONES FOR ALL OF THE CENSUS TRACTS THAT'S IN
12:41:37PM THE CRA.
12:41:39PM THAT DON'T TAKE NO ROCKET SCIENTIST TO DO.
12:41:41PM IT TAKES THE CITY OF TAMPA MAYOR'S DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THE
12:41:45PM REQUEST TO THE GOVERNOR.
12:41:46PM AND IF YOU NEED SOME REPUBLICANS TO SUPPORT IT, I CAN FIND
12:41:49PM SOME.
12:41:50PM BUT AT LEAST MAKE THE APPLICATION.
12:41:52PM BUCKHORN DID IT, AND HE WAS A DEMOCRAT AND EVEN GOT THE LOTS
12:41:55PM FOR THE STADIUM IN YBOR CITY OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
12:42:01PM THOSE CENSUS TRACTS.
12:42:03PM SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT FOR THAT, DIDN'T GET THE STADIUM,
12:42:06PM WE'RE ASKING, WEST TAMPA CRA TO HAVE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, TO
12:42:12PM ASK THE GOVERNOR AND THE FEDS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SLUM AND
12:42:16PM BLIGHT.
12:42:17PM DON'T NEED THAT POINT.
12:42:18PM THAT IS THE REASON IT SHOULD ALREADY BE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
12:42:20PM WE'RE ASKING THAT THE REMAINING CENSUS TRACTS IN WEST TAMPA
12:42:25PM THAT ARE NOT CRAs BE -- THAT ARE NOT OPPORTUNITY ZONES BE
12:42:30PM DESIGNATED OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND IT STARTS WITH THE MAYOR'S
12:42:34PM OFFICE, MR. BENNETT.
12:42:35PM IF YOU CAN MAKE THE APPLICATION, THEN WE'LL KNOW IT
12:42:40PM HAPPENED.
12:42:40PM IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD COST A LOT OF MONEY TO DO.
12:42:42PM IT WOULD GREATLY ENHANCE DOWN THE ROAD THE FEDERAL MONEY
12:42:47PM ONLY GOING TO OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
12:42:48PM AIN'T GOING TO BE NO MORE CDBG AND ALL THAT.
12:42:51PM IT WILL BE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, AND WE NEED THAT TO HELP DO
12:42:54PM WHAT WE NEED TO ON THE WEST SIDE.
12:42:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE
12:42:57PM RECORD.
12:42:58PM >> JOSEPH WILLIAM JORDAN ROBINSON JUNIOR.
12:43:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:43:04PM NEXT PLEASE.
12:43:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:43:10PM MY NAME IS WALT, VICE-CHAIR OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY
12:43:15PM ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALONG WITH MY CHAIR, JOE ROBINSON.
12:43:19PM TODAY, I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE VERY QUICKLY ABOUT WHAT
12:43:22PM THE PURPOSE OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SHOULD BE, WHO THE
12:43:27PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SHOULD BE REPORTING TO.
12:43:29PM I STAND HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE IN FAVOR OF THE EXECUTIVE
12:43:33PM DIRECTOR REPORTING TO YOU, THE BOARD.
12:43:37PM IT'S NECESSARY.
12:43:38PM YOUR JOB AS CITY COUNCIL IS TO LEGISLATE.
12:43:41PM I DO STAND IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
12:43:43PM AND WE DO NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU ARE HAVING GOOD
12:43:47PM CHECKS AND BALANCES WITH REGARD TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR
12:43:49PM COMMUNITIES.
12:43:50PM THE JOB OF THE CRA IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE EMPOWERING
12:43:54PM PEOPLE.
12:43:55PM THE JOB OF THE CRA IS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING
12:43:58PM A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.
12:44:01PM AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE,
12:44:04PM AS LONG AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS REPORTING TO YOU, AS
12:44:06PM LONG AS WE HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE
12:44:09PM BETWEEN OUR CRA, COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL AND YOU, THEN WE
12:44:13PM WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES BECAUSE YOU
12:44:17PM AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE AT THE
12:44:21PM PLEASURE OF THE PEOPLE.
12:44:22PM THAT'S THE JOB, THAT'S YOUR CHARGE, THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT.
12:44:27PM AND SO I DO STAND IN FAVOR OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
12:44:30PM REPORTING TO YOU AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT IT IS THE
12:44:34PM APPROPRIATE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE.
12:44:36PM THANK YOU.
12:44:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:44:37PM NEXT, PLEASE.
12:44:39PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:44:41PM VICTOR DEMAIO, MUNICIPAL PARKWAY, SUITE 195.
12:44:45PM I'M HERE REPRESENTING MALKA ISAAK.
12:44:49PM A LOT OF PEOPLE COME HERE TO BITCH AND MOAN AND COMPLAIN
12:44:52PM ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WENT WRONG, WHICH I DID TWO MONTHS AGO.
12:44:56PM AND YOU LISTENED.
12:44:59PM IT TOOK THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
12:45:02PM AND I'M HERE TO THANK YOU AND OFFER MY APPRECIATION FOR THE
12:45:02PM FACT THAT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE MASSEY PARK PROJECT
12:45:04PM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
12:45:07PM A NEW THING THAT CAME ABOUT.
12:45:09PM YOU GUYS SIT TOGETHER, WORK SOMETHING OUT.
12:45:11PM I'M HERE TO THANK YOU, NUMBER ONE.
12:45:13PM THANK MR. BENNETT, HE'S BEEN OUTSTANDING.
12:45:16PM MR. ROSNER IS NOT HERE.
12:45:17PM MR. DIAL ALSO AS WELL FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
12:45:20PM WE HAVE SAT DOWN AND MET WITH THEM.
12:45:22PM EVERYONE HAS BEEN REALLY -- IT'S BEEN 180-DEGREE TURN FROM
12:45:26PM WHAT WE WERE FACING WHEN WE FIRST CAME TO YOU AND ASKED FOR
12:45:30PM HELP.
12:45:30PM WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:45:33PM I WANT TO CORRECT A FEW THINGS.
12:45:35PM I DON'T WANT TO RELITIGATE WHY MALKA WASN'T NOTICED.
12:45:41PM THAT'S WATER OVER THE DAM AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
12:45:44PM I'M ASKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION, WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX THIS?
12:45:48PM I THINK HAVING A RESTAURANT IN THE PARK THAT AMENITY HAS
12:45:50PM ALREADY LEFT THE STATION.
12:45:52PM AGAIN, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE.
12:45:54PM YOU HAVE BIG RAYS FISH CAMP.
12:45:56PM FOUR GREEN FIELDS.
12:45:57PM YOU HAVE BALLAST POINT AND MANY, MANY OTHER EXAMPLES OF
12:46:01PM PARKS AND RESTAURANTS COEXISTING.
12:46:03PM I'M DISAPPOINTED, MICHAEL CALLED ME A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO,
12:46:09PM MET OVER THE WEEKEND, AGREED TO NOT FIGHT YOU GUYS ANYMORE.
12:46:13PM WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
12:46:16PM TODAY, I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY TOOK THE STANCE
12:46:18PM THEY DID.
12:46:19PM LAST WEEK, THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET.
12:46:24PM THE PEOPLE WHO YOU APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THE DOWNTOWN CRA,
12:46:27PM AND THEY VOTED 9-1 -- EXCUSE ME, 8-1, I BELIEVE TO REJECT
12:46:34PM THE PLAN THAT WAS THE FINAL PLAN UP TO THIS POINT AND TO
12:46:38PM MOVE FORWARD TO LOOK ABOUT MOVING THE DOG PARK AWAY FROM THE
12:46:43PM RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ALL WE'RE ASKING.
12:46:45PM EVERY AMENITY THAT'S IN THE PARK NOW, THE DOG PARK, THE
12:46:49PM SEATING AREA, THE GRASSY AREA, ALL THOSE AMENITIES, THE
12:46:53PM ARTIST AREA, ALL THE AMENITIES THAT ARE PART OF THE PARK
12:46:56PM DESIGN TODAY WILL BE IN THE PARK DESIGN WHEN WE'RE FINISHED.
12:47:01PM ALL WE ASK, AND I WAS QUOTED, THANKS TO MR. FRAGO THAT DOG
12:47:08PM POOP NEXT TO A RESTAURANT DOES NOT WORK.
12:47:10PM THAT WAS THE HEADLINE.
12:47:11PM I STAND TODAY SAYING THE SAME THING TO YOU.
12:47:14PM DOG POOP NEXT TO A RESTAURANT DOES NOT WORK.
12:47:17PM EVEN THOUGH THESE PEOPLE ARE VERY ANGRY, UPSET AND
12:47:20PM DISAPPOINTED, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM.
12:47:23PM BY THE WAY, THANK YOU, ANDREA ZELMAN, FOR LISTENING TO OUR
12:47:26PM CONCERNS AS WELL.
12:47:27PM THAT'S THE SAME PROCESS WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO AND WORK
12:47:32PM OUT SO WE CAN HAVE A NICE AMENITY AND HAVE A COOL AMENITY
12:47:35PM FOR EVERYBODY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENJOY AT MASSEY PARK
12:47:37PM DOWNTOWN.
12:47:38PM THANKS.
12:47:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT, PLEASE.
12:47:44PM >> MY NAME IS MALKA ISAAK.
12:47:47PM I'M HERE BEFORE YOU AGAIN.
12:47:49PM THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO, THE SAME THING LIKE MR. De
12:47:53PM MAYO.
12:47:54PM THANK YOU ALL.
12:47:54PM HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE CITY PEOPLE, WITH THE
12:48:00PM PARK PEOPLE, AND WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAD A DIFFICULT
12:48:03PM TIME BEFOREHAND MEETING WITH THEM.
12:48:08PM BECAUSE OF YOU ALL, YOU OPENED UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND
12:48:13PM IT HAS HAPPENED.
12:48:15PM I MAY NOT HAVE TOLD YOU BEFOREHAND, I AM A MEMBER OF THE
12:48:19PM FLORIDA BAR.
12:48:20PM EVERYBODY IS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH HERE, BUT THERE ARE
12:48:27PM CONSEQUENCES IF YOU DON'T.
12:48:28PM I AM TELLING YOU THAT I HAVE NOT HAD NOTICE OF ALL THAT WAS
12:48:35PM GOING ON IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
12:48:37PM AND YOU HAVE THE LETTER FROM MY ATTORNEY, RICHARD
12:48:40PM McINTIRE.
12:48:45PM WE ARE NOT GETTING INTO THE DETAIL OF WHAT HAPPENED.
12:48:49PM I HAD NOT HAD NOTICE.
12:48:52PM IT IS NOT MY FAULT.
12:48:54PM FAIR FOR ME TO HAVE A NOTICE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:49:02PM I HAD ALSO SPOKEN WITH A VETERINARIAN SINCE THEN, AND HE
12:49:07PM ALSO TOLD ME, WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IT'S ABSOLUTELY
12:49:13PM PROHIBITED.
12:49:14PM WE WILL NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN FRONT OF
12:49:21PM YOU ANYTHING.
12:49:22PM ALL WE WANT TO DO IS REARRANGE THE PARK AND THE RESTAURANT
12:49:30PM SEATING.
12:49:30PM I CAN ASSURE YOU THE ISSUE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH
12:49:34PM THE RESTAURANT SEATING IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A
12:49:39PM LEASE BETWEEN ME AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:49:43PM I'M SURE THAT THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE
12:49:46PM ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED.
12:49:47PM I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THE HELP THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME, AND WE
12:49:54PM DON'T NEED TO GET INTO DETAILS.
12:49:56PM IT'S NOT THE RIGHT FORUM.
12:49:59PM BUT THE PROCESS WILL NOW GO FORWARD, AND I HOPE ALL OF US
12:50:04PM WILL BE HERE AND EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY.
12:50:07PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:50:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:50:09PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK?
12:50:11PM ALL RIGHT.
12:50:15PM YOU HAD YOUR THREE MINUTES.
12:50:16PM I'M SORRY, MR. DANIELS.
12:50:18PM YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
12:50:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RECESS UNTIL 2:00.
12:50:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A SECOND?
12:50:31PM >> WE'RE COMING BACK AS COUNCIL AT 5:00, JUST SO EVERYBODY
12:50:36PM KNOWS.
12:50:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT 1:45 IF WE COULD.
12:50:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THAT WE RECESS UNTIL 1:45.
12:50:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:50:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:50:48PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:50:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:50:51PM WE ARE AT RECESS.
12:50:53PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:50:53PM [RECESS]
1:56:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:56:46PM THE CRA BOARD IS BACK IN SESSION.
1:56:49PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:56:51PM >> DINGFELDER?
1:56:52PM GUDES?
1:56:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
1:56:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:56:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:56:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:56:57PM >> CARLSON?
1:56:58PM CITRO?
1:56:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:57:00PM STARTING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION.
1:57:08PM >> SO MOVED.
1:57:09PM >> SECOND.
1:57:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:57:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:57:15PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:57:18PM NUMBER 9, NEED A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION.
1:57:20PM >> SO MOVED.
1:57:20PM >> SECOND.
1:57:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:57:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:57:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:57:25PM ITEM NUMBER 10.
1:57:32PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MY NAME IS NEALE STRALOW.
1:57:36PM I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH VHB.
1:57:39PM MY OFFICES ARE LOCATED AT 501 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE
1:57:43PM 1010, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
1:57:45PM WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY.
1:57:47PM IT'S A SHORT PRESENTATION.
1:57:48PM IT PROVIDES A FEW TAKEAWAYS ON THE VISION 2020 MASTER PLAN.
1:57:54PM THE AGENDA ITEM IS SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL
1:57:57PM REPORT.
1:57:57PM IS THERE A WAY TO BRING UP -- OH, THERE IT IS.
1:58:04PM GREAT.
1:58:05PM EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE VHB TEAM WAS SELECTED BY THE CITY AND
1:58:09PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
1:58:11PM TO PREPARE THE YBOR CITY VISION 2020 PLAN.
1:58:16PM OUR TEAM INCLUDES LANDWISE.
1:58:20PM OUR TEAM INCLUDES LANDWISE ADVISORS WHO COMPLETED THE RETAIL
1:58:28PM MARKET ASSESSMENT AND OPEN WORKSHOP FOR ARCHITECTURE.
1:58:31PM WHO ASSISTED US WITH THE URBAN FORM AND DESIGN ELEMENTS.
1:58:35PM THE REPORT CONTAINS MULTIPLE PLANNING ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE
1:58:39PM COMPLETED BY THE TEAM AND DOCUMENTED IN THE FINAL REPORT
1:58:42PM THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
1:58:44PM WE CAN ALL RECOGNIZE THAT YBOR CITY IS A HISTORIC TAMPA
1:58:50PM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONNECTED TO AND
1:58:54PM THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
1:59:00PM THAT HAS CONTINUED TO CHANGE WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S
1:59:03PM OCCURRING IN AND AROUND THE DISTRICT.
1:59:06PM THE IMPORTANCE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, 7th AVENUE, THE ENTIRE
1:59:10PM LENGTH OF 7th AVENUE AND THE RECENTLY IMPROVED 21st AND
1:59:14PM 22nd STREETS, ALONG WITH EMERGING AND TRANSITIONING AREAS
1:59:20PM TO THE SOUTH ALONG THE ADAMO DRIVE CORRIDOR.
1:59:23PM ARE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE.
1:59:28PM CHANGE IS BEING SEEN IN COMPLETION OF ADAPTIVE REUSE OF
1:59:31PM STRUCTURES.
1:59:32PM CONSTRUCTION OF NEW RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT AND BUILDINGS.
1:59:35PM AND THE ANTICIPATED OPENING OF SEVERAL NEW BUILDINGS, THE
1:59:42PM YBOR HOTEL AND RESTAURANTS ON 7th BEING REPRESENTED HERE.
1:59:46PM THE CHART ON THE LEFT IS DEPICTING WHAT IS PROJECTED GROWTH
1:59:52PM BY 2045, AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS BOTH IN THE DWELLING UNITS,
1:59:57PM THE HOUSEHOLD POPULATION, AND EMPLOYMENT, YBOR DISTRICT, THE
2:00:01PM CRA DISTRICT IS ANTICIPATED TO GROW SUBSTANTIALLY WITHIN
2:00:05PM THIS NEXT TWO DECADES.
2:00:07PM PART OF THIS IS RECOGNIZING HOW TO IMPLEMENT BOTH
2:00:15PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS TO
2:00:20PM SUPPORT THIS GROWTH.
2:00:21PM THROUGH THE VISION PLAN.
2:00:23PM DURING THE PROJECT, WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM.
2:00:31PM WE MET REGULARLY WITH STAFF AND THE YCDC BOARD AND THE
2:00:35PM STANDING SUBCOMMITTEES.
2:00:36PM WE USED THOSE ALONG WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND
2:00:41PM PROPERTY OWNERS TO COLLECT BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND
2:00:46PM COMPLETE THE RESEARCH INTO THE PLANNING ASSESSMENTS IN THE
2:00:49PM PROJECT.
2:00:49PM ADDITIONALLY, OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INCLUDED A MAY 15th
2:00:56PM COMMUNITY WORKSHOP THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED WITH MORE THAN A
2:01:00PM HUNDRED PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE AND SEVERAL OF THE BOARD
2:01:03PM MEMBERS AS WELL.
2:01:05PM WE ALSO HAD A DEDICATED PROJECT WEBSITE AND AN ONLINE
2:01:10PM COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT RETURNED MORE THAN 250 RESPONSES TO A
2:01:17PM DISTRICTWIDE SURVEY INSTRUMENT.
2:01:19PM ALL OF THIS WAS USED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BROAD FORWARD
2:01:26PM INTO THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN UPDATE, THE STRATEGIES ON
2:01:30PM IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE VISION PLAN.
2:01:33PM A COUPLE -- I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE PLANNING
2:01:38PM ASSESSMENTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
2:01:42PM THE TEAM COMPLETED A RETAIL MARKET ASSESSMENT FOR 7th AND
2:01:45PM 8th AVENUE, FIRST FLOOR CONDITIONS.
2:01:49PM THE RESULTS SHOW A 14% VACANCY RATE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR,
2:01:56PM THOSE TWO CORRIDORS, AND A 20% GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING
2:02:02PM OCCUPIED IN OFFICE USES.
2:02:04PM A TAKEAWAY IS THAT HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, RETAIL
2:02:09PM BUSINESS DISTRICTS ARE AIMING AT BEING LESS THAN 10%
2:02:13PM VACANCY, AND THE DESIRE IS AFTER VACANCY IS TAKEN CARE OF IS
2:02:19PM TO TRY AND HAVE RETAIL USES ON THE FIRST FLOOR, OFFICE USES
2:02:24PM OR OTHER USES ON THE SECOND OR UPPER FLOORS TO REINFORCE
2:02:28PM THAT STREET-LEVEL ACTIVITY.
2:02:30PM THE TEAM ALSO ESTIMATED THAT THERE'S A CURRENT UNMET RETAIL
2:02:36PM NEED IN THE DISTRICT.
2:02:38PM MORE THAN 78,000 SQUARE FEET OF SERVICES AND USES THAT COULD
2:02:42PM BE ATTRACTED TO THIS AREA, AND THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION OF
2:02:50PM THE PROJECTED GROWTH OVER THE NEXT TWO DECADES.
2:02:55PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE HE MOVES
2:02:58PM ON?
2:02:58PM CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE?
2:03:00PM I SAW THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS LAST NIGHT AND I
2:03:09PM DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
2:03:10PM WHERE DOES THAT NUMBER -- WHERE DOES THE 111,000 COME FROM?
2:03:15PM IS THAT SPACE THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE AND BUILT OUT?
2:03:20PM >> NEALE STRALOW: NO, THIS IS AN ACTUAL DEMAND BASED ON
2:03:24PM POPULATION.
2:03:24PM IT IS A PROJECTION OF DEMAND, RETAIL DEMAND BY OUR TEAMMATE,
2:03:31PM LANDWISE ADVISORS.
2:03:32PM WHAT THE 32,000 SQUARE FEET REPRESENT IS PROJECTS THAT ARE
2:03:36PM ALREADY BEING CONSIDERED AND ARE IN THE PIPELINE.
2:03:41PM WHAT THAT LEAVES IS AN UNMET NEED OF 78,000 THAT COULD BE
2:03:48PM SUPPORTIVE RETAIL USES THAT COULD BE LOCATED IN THIS
2:03:50PM DISTRICT OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DISTRICT.
2:03:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT INCLUDES ALL RESIDENTS.
2:03:56PM >>NEALE STRALOW: ALL TYPES OF RETAIL USES.
2:03:58PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL DEMAND AS WELL
2:04:01PM AS TOURIST DEMAND AS WELL AS OFFICE DEMAND, I MEAN,
2:04:06PM ASSOCIATED EMPLOYMENT DEMAND?
2:04:08PM >>NEALE STRALOW: THIS IS FOCUSED DIRECTLY ON RETAIL, BUT
2:04:11PM IT'S THOSE CONTRIBUTORS, THE EMPLOYEES, THE RESIDENTS AND
2:04:14PM THE VISITORS COMING TO THE DISTRICT AND EDUCATION.
2:04:19PM HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS AS WELL.
2:04:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
2:04:25PM >>NEALE STRALOW: THANK YOU.
2:04:26PM ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL PLANNING ASSESSMENTS INCLUDED A REVIEW
2:04:30PM OF LAND USE AND ZONING STANDARDS TO IDENTIFY THOSE
2:04:33PM CONDITIONS AFFECTING REDEVELOPMENT IN THE DISTRICT.
2:04:37PM AND THERE WAS SPECIFIC INTEREST IN DISTRICT STANDARDS IN THE
2:04:42PM UPDATE OF THE BARRIO LATINO URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE
2:04:48PM UNDERWAY.
2:04:49PM THERE WAS A STATED DESIRE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S BETTER
2:04:53PM CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THOSE DOCUMENTS, THE FUTURE LAND USE,
2:04:57PM THE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE DESIGN GUIDES.
2:05:02PM REALLY, WITH THE EMPHASIS ON IMPROVING THE PREDICTABILITY OF
2:05:07PM REDEVELOPMENT FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AS THEY MOVE INTO
2:05:11PM THE PROCESS.
2:05:12PM PART OF THE DISCUSSION -- I'M SORRY THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT
2:05:17PM TO SEE -- BUT IT'S REALLY RELATIVE TO THE BUILDING HEIGHTS
2:05:20PM OF THE DISTRICT.
2:05:21PM 45 AND 60 FEET TYPICAL ACROSS THE ENTIRE ZONING DISTRICTS.
2:05:28PM WITH THOSE GROWING FROM 45, UP TO 60 AND A LITTLE BIT HIGHER
2:05:34PM OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT ALONG ADAMO DRIVE.
2:05:36PM WHERE HIGHER INTENSITY IS ENVISIONED SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE.
2:05:44PM PART OF THIS DISCUSSION REALLY REVOLVED AROUND THE
2:05:48PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE PARCELS WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND
2:05:51PM NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE PARCELS.
2:05:53PM AND THE COMMUNITY, WHILE CERTAINLY LOVES THE HISTORIC
2:06:00PM DISTRICT AND DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD
2:06:03PM JEOPARDIZE THE DESIGNATION STATUS, CERTAINLY FEELS THAT
2:06:07PM THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT OF PARCELS THAT DON'T HAVE
2:06:11PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, SHOULD HAVE SOME RECOGNIZED
2:06:13PM DIFFERENTIATION IN THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDES, AND THAT WAS A
2:06:19PM RECOMMENDATION COMING FORWARD AS THOSE ARE UPDATED.
2:06:23PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, EXACTLY?
2:06:25PM IT MEANS SOFTEN UP THE BARRIO STANDARDS --
2:06:28PM >>NEALE STRALOW: TO DEFINE THEM UNIQUELY FOR THOSE PARCELS
2:06:33PM THAT HAVE HISTORIC STRUCTURES ON THOSE PARCELS AND THOSE
2:06:36PM THAT ARE NOT -- THAT ARE VACANT OR DON'T HAVE CONTRIBUTING
2:06:42PM STRUCTURES.
2:06:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT DEFINED NOW?
2:06:44PM >>NEALE STRALOW: THEY ARE TREATED NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE
2:06:48PM -- NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE PARCELS ARE TREATED AND LIMITED
2:06:52PM TO THEIR HEIGHT AND BULK BASED UPON ADJACENCY TO
2:06:58PM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
2:06:59PM THERE'S A BELIEF THAT THERE IS A WAY TO MODIFY THOSE
2:07:03PM STANDARDS SO THAT INCREASED DEVELOPMENT UP TO THE STANDARDS
2:07:06PM OF THE ZONING DISTRICT COULD BE MET ON THOSE NONCONTRIBUTING
2:07:10PM PARCELS.
2:07:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY ONLY COMMENT ON THAT -- THANK YOU,
2:07:13PM MR. CHAIRMAN -- IS FRANKIE'S PATIO.
2:07:16PM ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT?
2:07:19PM >>NEALE STRALOW: I AM.
2:07:20PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT NOW.
2:07:21PM PROBABLY CALLED TEN DIFFERENT THINGS EVER SINCE IT WAS
2:07:24PM FRANKIE'S PATIO.
2:07:25PM FRANKIE'S PATIO, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS IS KIND OF LIKE, YOU
2:07:36PM KNOW, AND THAT WAS, WHO KNOWS, 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
2:07:39PM IT'S LIKE, OH, WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL 7th AVENUE WITH HISTORIC
2:07:42PM ARE ARCHITECTURE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE FRANKIE'S
2:07:45PM PATIO AND WHOEVER DESIGNED THAT, AND THEN WHOEVER ALLOWED
2:07:49PM IT, BARRIO OR WHETHER A HAVE YOU, IT'S KIND OF LIKE I HOPE
2:07:53PM THAT THIS CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT SOMETHING
2:07:56PM THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE OR ALLOW THAT TYPE OF BASTARDIZATION OF
2:08:00PM THE BARRIO STANDARDS.
2:08:02PM >>NEALE STRALOW: NO, IT'S NOT.
2:08:05PM WHAT THE EMPHASIS IS, IS TO ENSURE THAT CERTAINLY THE DESIGN
2:08:13PM GUIDANCE TO STRUCTURES OCCURRING WITHIN THE DISTRICT NEED TO
2:08:16PM MEET THE CONTEXT IN THE DESIGN GUIDE OF THE DISTRICT.
2:08:21PM WHERE WE SAW AS PART OF OUR -- AND I'LL STEP FORWARD INTO A
2:08:25PM COUPLE OF THE 3D IMAGES, A DIFFERENTIATION IS WHERE BACKS --
2:08:32PM IT'S REALLY WHERE BUILDINGS ARE SITUATED ON THE PARCEL.
2:08:39PM ARCHITECTURALLY, THEY SHOULD FIT THE CONTEXT WHICH THEY SIT
2:08:43PM WITHIN, WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.
2:08:45PM WHEN YOU DIMINISH THE OVERALL HEIGHT AND STANDARD FOR THE
2:08:52PM ZONING DISTRICT, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE ADJACENT TO A
2:08:55PM HISTORIC PROPERTY, THAT WAS THE CONCERN.
2:08:58PM SO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES REALLY ARE REPRESENTING A COUPLE OF
2:09:07PM EXAMPLES OF THAT, WHERE IF YOU CONSIDERED TWO, THREE, FOUR
2:09:13PM STORY REDEVELOPMENT ON A TYPICAL BLOCK, NOT A SPECIFIC BLOCK
2:09:18PM IN THE DISTRICT, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR REDEVELOPMENT
2:09:26PM OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, HOW TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING ON
2:09:31PM PROPERTIES THAT ARE EITHER IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING OR
2:09:34PM CONTAINED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING
2:09:38PM BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CONTINUING
2:09:40PM INFRASTRUCTURE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO IN A MOMENT
2:09:45PM ABOUT PUBLIC PARKING ACCOMMODATION WITHIN YBOR AND HOW
2:09:49PM ADDITIONAL CARS ARE ENTERED INTO THE DISTRICT.
2:09:52PM WE COMPLETED SEVERAL INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENTS AS PART OF
2:09:59PM THIS REPORTING, AND I WAS GOING TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THE
2:10:04PM PARKING.
2:10:04PM BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACES ACCOMMODATE AND SUPPORT THE
2:10:10PM 7th AVENUE COMMERCIAL USE.
2:10:15PM 60% OF THE SPACES, THE PUBLIC INVENTORY CURRENTLY HAS A
2:10:23PM PERMIT RESTRICTION ATTACHED TO IT.
2:10:27PM SOMEBODY HAS USE OF THAT SPACE DURING PORTIONS OF THE DAY OR
2:10:31PM EVENING OR THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE DAY.
2:10:34PM THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CONTINUE.
2:10:37PM THAT RATE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
2:10:45PM I'M SORRY.
2:10:47PM THAT RATE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE, ESPECIALLY ON
2:10:49PM THE WEST END, WHERE NEW OFFICE AND NEW RESIDENTIAL IS BEING
2:10:55PM PROPOSED AND BEING DELIVERED IN THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
2:10:59PM THOSE SPACES ARE GOING TO BE ALLOCATED OUT OF THE PUBLIC
2:11:04PM SPACES.
2:11:04PM THIS SLIDE IS THE PRIVATE VENDORS, WHO CONTROL LAND SURFACE
2:11:11PM LOTS AND ALSO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
2:11:15PM A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS ABOUT
2:11:19PM SAFE AND EFFECTIVE ROUTES TO THESE SURFACE LOTS, BOTH IN THE
2:11:25PM PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE LOCATIONS.
2:11:27PM AND EFFECTIVE MEANS BY WHICH EMPLOYEES ARE REPRESENTED IN
2:11:32PM SOME RATE CONSIDERATIONS AS THEY ARE NEEDING TO BE THERE FOR
2:11:39PM EXTENDED HOURS.
2:11:40PM SO I KNOW STAFF IS WORKING, THE VENDORS HAVE BEEN IN TO THE
2:11:44PM YCDC BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEETINGS AND THEY CONTINUE TO WORK
2:11:48PM WITH THEM ON OPPORTUNITIES.
2:11:50PM ANOTHER INVENTORY ITEM THAT WAS LOOKED AT WAS REALLY THE
2:12:01PM CONNECTIVITY TO AND THROUGH THE SYSTEM THROUGH THE DISTRICT,
2:12:05PM INCLUDING SIDEWALK LOCATIONS, THE GREEN BEING EXISTING
2:12:08PM SIDEWALKS.
2:12:09PM THE RED BEING MISSING LINKS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
2:12:16PM THE COMMUNITY IDENTIFIED A STRONG DESIRE FOR
2:12:20PM INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THE DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN, CONNECTION
2:12:23PM TO TRANSIT, CONNECTION TO THE SELMON GREENWAY TRAIL AND THE
2:12:28PM FUTURE NUCCIO GREEN SPINE.
2:12:33PM THAT'S ALL MODES OF VEHICLE, BICYCLE, AND PEDESTRIAN.
2:12:36PM WE LOOKED AT ADA RAMP LOCATIONS AND MISSING LOCATIONS.
2:12:41PM IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY AND HELP PRIORITIZE WHERE SOME FUTURE
2:12:45PM WORK, SOME FUTURE BUDGETING MAY BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TO
2:12:50PM COMPLETE THESE MISSING LINKS.
2:12:52PM ONE AREA IN PARTICULAR IS REPRESENTED TO THE NORTH OF THIS
2:12:58PM ALONG 13th, THE LONG RED LINE, IS THE 13th AVENUE
2:13:03PM CORRIDOR, WHICH REALLY IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD FOR D.O.T.'S
2:13:07PM IMPROVEMENT.
2:13:08PM IT'S A MISSING LINK RIGHT NOW.
2:13:12PM BUT AS PART OF THE PROPOSED D.O.T. IMPROVEMENTS, THE
2:13:15PM COMMUNITY HAS IDENTIFIED A STRONG DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT
2:13:18PM THOSE LINKAGES OCCUR AS PART OF THE D.O.T. IMPROVEMENTS.
2:13:22PM ALL OF THESE NEED TO BE WEIGHED AND MEASURED AGAINST THE
2:13:31PM HISTORIC STREET SYSTEM.
2:13:33PM THOSE BRICK STREETS THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE, THERE HAS BEEN
2:13:40PM OTHER ITEMS BEFORE YOU OR DISCUSSED ABOUT REBRICKING STREETS
2:13:45PM IN THE COMMUNITY.
2:13:46PM THAT WAS A STRONG COMMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WILL
2:13:49PM CONTINUE TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE YCDC.
2:13:52PM ALL OF THESE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS REALLY LEAD TO A
2:13:58PM DISCUSSION ABOUT COMMUNITY HEALTH AND HOW MAKING LOCATIONS
2:14:01PM MORE WALKABLE INCREASES THE BENEFIT OF COMMUNITY HEALTH.
2:14:12PM IT LOOKS TO PROVIDE BETTER MIXED-USE PROJECTS AND ULTIMATELY
2:14:17PM ADDS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DISTRICT AND THOSE
2:14:23PM THAT HAVE A HIGH WALKABILITY FACTOR, CERTAINLY ADDING ON TO
2:14:28PM WHAT YBOR IS ALREADY KNOWN FOR.
2:14:30PM THE FINAL TWO SLIDES -- IT'S BLOCKED BY THE CLOSED
2:14:39PM CAPTION -- BUT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN CONTAINS THE
2:14:42PM CONSOLIDATED STRATEGIES FROM THE YBOR VISION.
2:14:46PM THE 2005 PLAN, THE UPDATE THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2010, AND
2:14:51PM THEN NEW STRATEGIES THAT WERE PROPOSED OUT OF THE COMMUNITY
2:14:55PM DISCUSSION FOR THE 2020 PLAN.
2:14:57PM THEY ARE ORGANIZED BY STRATEGY, DEPARTMENT LEAD, PRIORITY,
2:15:02PM AND THEN STATUS.
2:15:04PM THE NEXT THREE SLIDES REALLY REPRESENTS THOSE NEW ELEMENTS
2:15:10PM THAT WERE INCLUDED AS STRATEGIES, AND THEY ARE ORGANIZED
2:15:13PM UNDER PLAN AND POLICY OR INFRASTRUCTURE-RELATED GROUPINGS.
2:15:17PM I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE -- ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU.
2:15:24PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT
2:15:27PM WITH THE CITY AND STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
2:15:30PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:15:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:15:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A SHORT STATEMENT.
2:15:41PM MY COMPANY IS NOW IN YBOR, SO I'M SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME
2:15:45PM THERE THAN I DID BEFORE.
2:15:46PM I THINK IN TALKING TO A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND
2:15:51PM INVESTORS IN YBOR, I THINK YBOR IS GOING THROUGH, LIKE THE
2:15:55PM FOURTH OR FIFTH GENERATION OF DEVELOPMENT.
2:15:58PM IT STARTED AS A COMMUNITY.
2:16:01PM THEN IT DROPPED OFF, AND THEN IT TURNED INTO AN ARTS
2:16:05PM COMMUNITY AND THEN IT TURNED INTO A BAR DISTRICT.
2:16:08PM WHAT I SEE NOW HAPPENING IS IT'S TURNING BACK INTO A
2:16:10PM COMMUNITY AGAIN.
2:16:12PM I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON NOT JUST ON THE BUILDINGS AND
2:16:16PM INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ON THE COMMUNITY BUILDING AND THE
2:16:19PM CONNECTIVITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
2:16:21PM AND IN PARTICULAR, TALKING ABOUT RETAIL, WE NEED TO THINK
2:16:24PM ABOUT RETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE
2:16:29PM IN THE OFFICES NEED.
2:16:30PM WHAT ARE THE AMENITIES THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE NEED.
2:16:32PM AND THINK ABOUT IT AS REBUILDING A COMMUNITY AGAIN.
2:16:34PM IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS HISTORICALLY WITH
2:16:36PM SOME OF THE SAME BONES AND SOME OF THE SAME FAMILIES AND
2:16:40PM PEOPLE, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT AND GROWING INTO SOMETHING REALLY
2:16:43PM UNIQUE AGAIN.
2:16:46PM >>NEALE STRALOW: I AGREE.
2:16:47PM THE INFLUENCE OF OFFICE USERS, EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE DISTRICT
2:16:52PM IS SUBSTANTIAL AND IS GROWING.
2:16:55PM THOSE TYPES OF SERVICE USES OR SHOPPING USES THAT ARE
2:17:01PM TYPICALLY FELT BY AN EMPLOYEE MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN VISITORS
2:17:07PM COMING TO THE DISTRICT OR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
2:17:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:17:12PM ANY COMMENTS?
2:17:12PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
2:17:15PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST PROCEDURALLY, AND I DON'T KNOW,
2:17:21PM COURTNEY OR ANDREA, MS. ZELMAN, PROCEDURALLY, ARE YOU ALL
2:17:28PM LOOKING FOR US TO ADOPT THIS TODAY OR --
2:17:34PM >>NEALE STRALOW: THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO APPROVE.
2:17:40PM ON MONDAY, WE WILL PRESENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS
2:17:42PM WELL, AS THEY ARE A COSPONSOR OF THIS PROJECT.
2:17:50PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
2:17:50PM THANK YOU.
2:17:52PM I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF TIME IF THERE'S ANY URGENT TIME
2:17:58PM CRUNCH THAT WE NEED TO DO IT.
2:18:03PM FRANKLY, IT IS A LOT TO DIGEST, ABOUT A HUNDRED PAGES.
2:18:06PM I LOOKED AT AN ABBREVIATED VERSION YESTERDAY, BUT NOW I'M
2:18:13PM SEEING THIS LARGER VERSION.
2:18:16PM I WOULDN'T REALLY BE PREPARED OR HAPPY ABOUT VOTING ON IT
2:18:20PM TODAY OR THIS MONTH UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME AN
2:18:23PM OVERWHELMING REASON WHY WE WOULD NEED TO.
2:18:25PM IS THERE ANY KIND OF TIME CRUNCH, MS. ORR?
2:18:33PM >> PLANNING COMMISSION ON MONDAY.
2:18:36PM MONDAY, WE'RE ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.
2:18:38PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
2:18:38PM CAN YOU TAKE IT TO THEM ANYWAY?
2:18:42PM I THINK OUR VOTE IS INDEPENDENT OF THEIRS.
2:18:44PM I MEAN, I WOULD THINK.
2:18:44PM >> I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD WANT OUR APPROVAL FIRST.
2:18:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:18:48PM JAY COLLINS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
2:18:51PM YOU ARE THE FINAL SAY-SO ON YOUR PLAN FOR THE CRA.
2:18:54PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT BE TAKING ACTION ON IT.
2:18:57PM IT IS SIMPLY A STATUS UPDATE TO SAY THAT THE ITEM HAS BEEN
2:19:00PM COMPLETED.
2:19:01PM SO IT IS YOUR PURVIEW AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH
2:19:07PM IT.
2:19:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT
2:19:09PM THIS?
2:19:12PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR, I THINK, BUT I'D
2:19:15PM MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER IT FOR A MONTH BECAUSE NEITHER
2:19:18PM MS. ORR OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR MS. ZELMAN HAVE
2:19:25PM INDICATED THAT THERE IS ANY PARTICULAR RUSH.
2:19:25PM I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A YEAR OR
2:19:29PM MORE.
2:19:29PM IT IS A HUNDRED PAGES.
2:19:31PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HIDDEN IN THERE -- I DON'T MEAN HIDDEN.
2:19:34PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN.
2:19:36PM I'D LIKE TO REVIEW IT, I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD, TOO,
2:19:40PM IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
2:19:41PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IS THIS THE TYPE OF THING WHERE IT WILL
2:19:44PM COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN BACK TO THE CRA
2:19:46PM BOARD TO BE ADOPTED OR TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE ADOPTED?
2:19:52PM >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT BE TAKING ACTION ON THE
2:19:54PM ITEM ON MONDAY.
2:19:55PM YOU ARE CORRECT THAT NORMALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD
2:19:58PM SEE THIS ITEM PRIOR TO YOU TAKING ACTION ON IT.
2:20:04PM HOWEVER, THE CALENDAR IS WHAT THE CALENDAR IS AND YOU ARE
2:20:07PM MEETING PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN NOVEMBER.
2:20:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE NOT TAKING ACTION.
2:20:10PM THEY ARE JUST GOING TO REVIEW AND ACCEPT AS A DOCUMENT.
2:20:15PM ANYWAY, THAT'S MY MOTION.
2:20:16PM I THINK IT'S A FRIENDLY MOTION.
2:20:19PM IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD DOCUMENT.
2:20:21PM LIKE I SAY, I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW IT CAREFULLY.
2:20:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF THERE'S NO PREJUDICE SUFFERED OUT OF
2:20:29PM PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I HAVE NO
2:20:32PM PROBLEM WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO PREJUDICE OR DELAY, I HAVE
2:20:34PM NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:20:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:20:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHERE DO YOU SEE A HUNDRED-PAGE VERSION?
2:20:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, WELL, I THINK ANNETTE SLIPPED IN
2:20:45PM THIS HUNDRED-PAGE VERSION --
2:20:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'VE ONLY SEEN THE PowerPoint.
2:20:49PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
2:20:50PM ACTUALLY IT'S 110 PAGES GETS YOU TO THE APPENDIX.
2:20:54PM AND THEN THE APPENDIX I DON'T HAVE ATTACHED.
2:20:58PM YES, THERE IS A BIG VERSION.
2:21:00PM >> I DON'T HAVE THE DATE IN FRONT OF ME.
2:21:02PM I DID SEND IT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO PROBABLY TO THE
2:21:05PM COUNCIL.
2:21:06PM YOU HAVE A FULL 118-PAGE REPORT.
2:21:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
2:21:11PM THERE IS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION, THE PowerPoint VERSION
2:21:13PM AND THEN THE THICKER VERSION, WHICH I'M HOLDING IN MY HAND.
2:21:17PM >> THAT VERSION WAS SENT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
2:21:20PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT CRITICIZING.
2:21:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, IF A MEMBER FEELS HE NEEDS MORE TIME
2:21:28PM AND THERE'S NO PREJUDICE SUFFERED AND NO UNREASONABLE DELAY,
2:21:32PM I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH DELAYING A MONTH.
2:21:34PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SECOND MY MOTION.
2:21:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SO LONG AS THERE'S NO PREJUDICE OR
2:21:39PM UNREASONABLE DELAY THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY CHALLENGES, CORRECT?
2:21:43PM >> NO.
2:21:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, I'LL SECOND.
2:21:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
2:21:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:21:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:21:50PM OPPOSED?
2:21:51PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE TO REFER TO THE NEXT CRA
2:21:53PM MEETING, WHENEVER THAT IS.
2:21:55PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DO YOU NEED A RESOLUTION APPROVING IT?
2:21:58PM BECAUSE THE WAY IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA TODAY WAS REALLY
2:22:01PM MORE JUST INFORMATIONAL.
2:22:03PM I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE NEED TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION
2:22:06PM APPROVING, ADOPTING IT?
2:22:10PM >> I DON'T THINK SO.
2:22:10PM CAN I RESEARCH IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE DO.
2:22:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:22:19PM TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT CRA.
2:22:35PM GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
2:22:39PM NUMBER 12, EAST TAMPA CRA.
2:22:42PM >>THE CLERK: JIM CREW, ITEM 11 IS A PROGRAM CHANGE APPROVAL.
2:22:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE ITEM 11.
2:22:51PM I LOOKED AT IT LAST NIGHT.
2:22:55PM MOVING MONEY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS TO MARKETING AND
2:22:57PM PROMOTION, WHICH I THINK IN THAT PARTICULAR CRA IS
2:23:00PM APPROPRIATE.
2:23:05PM >> SECOND.
2:23:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ROB'S THING.
2:23:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
2:23:10PM DINGFELDER.
2:23:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:23:12PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:23:13PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:23:13PM THANK YOU.
2:23:14PM WHO WANTS TO TAKE ON NUMBER 12.
2:23:19PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:23:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:23:22PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:23:23PM ALL OPPOSED.
2:23:26PM MOTION PASSES.
2:23:32PM >> MOVE TO APPROVE 13.
2:23:34PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT A DUPLICATE?
2:23:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
2:23:39PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:23:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL SECOND ITEM 13.
2:23:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:23:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
2:23:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:23:50PM NUMBER 14, WHO WANTS TO TAKE NUMBER 14?
2:23:53PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:23:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:24:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
2:24:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY DISCUSSION?
2:24:06PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
2:24:07PM YEAH, IN REGARD TO ITEM 14, I'LL SUPPORT IT.
2:24:14PM I'D LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE GET A REPORT
2:24:21PM BACK LET'S SAY -- I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY THEY'LL INSTALL
2:24:29PM IT.
2:24:29PM LET'S SAY SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
2:24:31PM ON THE CAMERAS, THE USE OF THE CAMERA.
2:24:34PM THERE WERE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS EARLIER THAT I
2:24:37PM UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE UNANSWERED BECAUSE THERE IS NO
2:24:40PM ANSWER YET.
2:24:42PM BUT JUST TO GET A REPORT BACK FROM STAFF, IN PERSON ON THE
2:24:49PM USE OF THE CAMERAS, HOW IS IT GOING, HOW HAS IT IMPROVED
2:24:53PM THINGS, THAT SORT OF THING.
2:24:55PM THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
2:24:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:25:00PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:25:01PM MOTION PASSES.
2:25:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
2:25:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF.
2:25:12PM >>JOHN BENNETT: MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD, THIS IS ITEM 15, WHICH
2:25:15PM IS A CONTINUATION OF THE WORKSHOP FROM OUR PREVIOUS WORKSHOP
2:25:19PM SESSION.
2:25:20PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS FOUR THINGS TO SERVE YOUR AGREEMENT
2:25:26PM ON.
2:25:26PM IF I COULD, I'LL ENUMERATE THOSE, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE
2:25:29PM ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO DISCUSS AFTER THOSE FOUR THINGS OR
2:25:32PM IN ANY ORDER YOU PLEASE, WE CAN DO THAT.
2:25:34PM SO WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE THREE PHASES OF THE
2:25:39PM RECRUITMENT, SELECTION, AND INSTALLATION OF AN EXECUTIVE
2:25:43PM DIRECTOR.
2:25:46PM MS. ZELMAN WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A LEGAL UPDATE.
2:25:51PM MICHELLE VAN LOAN WANTED TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT THE
2:25:54PM SERVICE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON FOR NOW A
2:25:56PM COUPLE OF MONTHS.
2:25:57PM LASTLY, MICHELLE VAN LOAN WANTS TO KIND OF CAPSTONE THIS
2:26:05PM CONVERSATION WITH A MOTION THAT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE
2:26:08PM RETENTION POND TASK FORCE AND THE TIMING OF THAT.
2:26:11PM SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR THINGS.
2:26:14PM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADDRESS BEYOND THESE FOUR
2:26:17PM ITEMS THAT I JUST SHARED?
2:26:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOARD MEMBERS.
2:26:22PM >>JOHN BENNETT: ALL RIGHT.
2:26:23PM I'LL KICK IT OFF.
2:26:25PM WHEN WE LAST SPOKE, I THINK THIS IS MY THIRD MEETING WITH
2:26:28PM YOU FROM A CRA POINT OF VIEW.
2:26:31PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION HAS SEPARATED THE
2:26:37PM PROPOSED EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FROM WHAT WOULD BE THE ECONOMIC
2:26:42PM DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS A POSITION STILL TO BE
2:26:45PM FILLED.
2:26:46PM AND OUR RECOMMENDATION AFTER LOOKING THROUGH OUR --
2:26:49PM OBVIOUSLY, OUR RECRUITMENT, SELECTION, AND INSTALLATION
2:26:52PM PROCESS, IS THAT WE WOULD PREPARE A SOLICITATION FOR
2:26:57PM RECRUITMENT FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND WHETHER IT'S
2:27:01PM NATIONALLY, INTERNATIONALLY, WE HAVE TWO ALREADY CONTRACTED
2:27:05PM GROUPS THAT CAN DO EXECUTIVE LEVEL OUTSOURCING OF THAT
2:27:09PM ALREADY IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT.
2:27:11PM WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT FOR SEVERAL POSITIONS FOR THE
2:27:14PM ADMINISTRATION.
2:27:15PM WE WOULD LIKE TO CIRCULATE THE DRAFT OF THAT, MUCH LIKE WE
2:27:20PM WOULD CIRCULATE AN RFP, WE'D LIKE TO CIRCULATE THE LANGUAGE
2:27:24PM OF THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE
2:27:27PM WOULD PUT THAT OUT, OBVIOUSLY, FOR RECRUITING PURPOSES.
2:27:30PM WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE YOU AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED
2:27:34PM IN THE SELECTION PROCESS.
2:27:36PM THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE CAN USE
2:27:39PM THAT I'VE SEEN AT THIS LEVEL.
2:27:41PM WE COULD CREATE ONE-ON-ONE ENVIRONMENTS WHEN WE GET THE
2:27:44PM SELECTION PROCESS DOWN BASED ON THE RECRUITING FIRM'S
2:27:47PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
2:27:49PM I'M A FAN OF NOT JUST GOING WITH THE TOP TIER, BECAUSE I
2:27:52PM FOUND A LOT OF DIAMONDS IN THE ROUGH, IN THE MIDDLE AND
2:27:55PM UPPER TIERS OF THAT DATA.
2:27:58PM SO WE WOULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU A BOOK THAT WOULD SHOW THINGS
2:28:00PM IN DIFFERENT LEVELS AND ALLOW YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THOSE, AND
2:28:06PM THEN WE COULD BRING THAT DOWN TO A SELECT GROUP FOR MORE
2:28:09PM FORMAL INTERVIEWS.
2:28:10PM WHETHER WE DID THAT COLLECTIVELY HERE OR YOU DID IT
2:28:13PM INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN CAME BACK AND WORKED TOWARDS A
2:28:16PM FINALIZATION OF THAT SELECTION.
2:28:18PM AND THEN AS FAR AS INSTALLATION, ONCE THAT PERSON WAS PICKED
2:28:24PM THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS, THEN WE WOULD BRING HER OR
2:28:29PM HIM HERE AND WE COULD ACTUALLY INSTALL THEM THROUGH A
2:28:33PM REGULAR BOARD MEETING IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE.
2:28:35PM SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
2:28:37PM WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ON THIS SOONER THAN LATER.
2:28:41PM JUST LIKE WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME, I THINK THE BIGGEST
2:28:47PM THING THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE A DEDICATED
2:28:51PM POSITION THAT WE'LL WORK DIRECTLY FOR THE BOARD AND THE
2:28:55PM THINGS THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THE
2:28:58PM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT AS ONE TEAM
2:29:02PM REPORTING BACK TO THE BOARD, JUST LIKE WE HAVE FOR THE LAST
2:29:05PM COUPLE OF MONTHS.
2:29:06PM I THINK YOU'VE SEEN A PARADIGM SHIFT IN THE WAY WE'VE BEEN
2:29:10PM MODIFYING OUR MONTHLY REPORTS TO THE WAY YOU REQUESTED,
2:29:13PM BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ASKED US TO DO
2:29:16PM OVER THE LAST TWO MEETINGS.
2:29:17PM AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY GOING FORWARD.
2:29:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
2:29:24PM ONE THING YOU MENTIONED THERE, CHIEF, ON THE INTERVIEW, FOR
2:29:27PM ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST INDIVIDUAL
2:29:31PM INTERVIEWS, NOT COLLECTIVELY, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DO
2:29:33PM IT HERE.
2:29:34PM THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN INTERVIEWS THAT
2:29:36PM SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ON CAMERA, I GUESS IF YOU WILL.
2:29:39PM WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE, RIGHT?
2:29:41PM SO JUST MY OPINION FOR WHATEVER THAT COUNTS.
2:29:46PM I DO AGREE THAT THE SPLITTING OF THE POSITIONS I THINK WAS A
2:29:50PM VERY GOOD MOVE THAT I THINK ADDRESSED A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT
2:29:54PM A LOT OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAD ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT
2:29:56PM ISSUES.
2:29:57PM I THINK WHENEVER IT COMES TO WORKING WITH THIS
2:30:00PM ADMINISTRATION ON THESE KINDS OF ISSUES, YOU ALL HAVE SHOWN
2:30:04PM THE ABILITY, THE PROPENSITY TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL TO
2:30:08PM REACH OUT TO US LIBERALLY ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES, AND I FOR
2:30:16PM ONE STRONGLY APPRECIATE THAT.
2:30:17PM I REALLY DO.
2:30:18PM I THINK THAT THE PROPOSAL PUT FORWARD INCORPORATES THOSE
2:30:21PM VALUES AND INCORPORATES THE OUTREACH THAT THE CASTOR
2:30:25PM ADMINISTRATION AND YOU, SIR, CONTINUE TO DO TO THE CITY
2:30:27PM COUNCIL.
2:30:28PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A HONEYMOON PERIOD FROM YOU GUYS.
2:30:31PM IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T BELIEVE IN ONE YEAR YOU ALL ARE
2:30:33PM GOING TO START ACTING INAPPROPRIATE OR THIS OR THAT.
2:30:36PM I BELIEVE YOU'RE ACTING FROM A SET OF VALUES.
2:30:39PM I REALLY DO.
2:30:39PM AND I DON'T JUST SAY THAT.
2:30:42PM JUST MY THOUGHTS IN REGARDS TO THAT.
2:30:43PM BUT I DID WANT TO SPEAK UP AGAIN FOR THE INTERVIEW THAT I
2:30:47PM WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT'S INDIVIDUAL.
2:30:49PM JUST MY OPINION.
2:30:51PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I CONCUR WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION BUT I WANT
2:30:53PM TO MAKE SURE I OFFER THE BOARD A BALANCED APPROACH.
2:30:55PM FOR THE RECORD, MY HONEYMOON PERIOD ENDED ABOUT 35 YEARS
2:30:58PM AGO.
2:30:58PM [ LAUGHTER ]
2:30:58PM IN GOVERNMENT.
2:31:00PM SO THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FROM HERE ON OUT.
2:31:02PM I DON'T CHANGE IN THAT RESPECT OF SERVICE DELIVERY TO YOU OR
2:31:08PM THE CITIZENS.
2:31:08PM THAT'S THE ONE THING I'VE BEEN EXCITED ABOUT.
2:31:11PM I THINK WE'RE ALL -- I KNOW BOARD MEMBER, SLASH, COUNCILMAN
2:31:14PM CARLSON AND I SPOKE AFTER THE LAST, AND WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE
2:31:17PM COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO GO
2:31:21PM WITH THIS.
2:31:21PM I'M HOPING THAT YOU AGREE WITH OUR PROCESS.
2:31:25PM WE CAN BUILD THE RECRUITMENT.
2:31:27PM GET IT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.
2:31:29PM AND THAT RECRUITMENT WOULD BE BIFURCATED BETWEEN OUR
2:31:32PM INTERNAL RECRUITMENT AND OUR RECRUITING FIRM'S INPUT BECAUSE
2:31:36PM THEY PROBABLY HAVE A MORE GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE ON HIRING THIS
2:31:40PM LEVEL OF PERSON FOR THIS POSITION.
2:31:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:31:43PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:31:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE CLARITY ON
2:31:50PM IT.
2:31:50PM I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WORKING REAL GOOD WITH
2:31:54PM THIS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
2:31:55PM I KNOW I DO.
2:31:56PM BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR, SAYING THIS PROCESS WILL BE FOR THE
2:32:03PM CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER OR THE CRA ECONOMIC --
2:32:10PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
2:32:11PM CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
2:32:14PM WE SPLIT THAT LAST TIME.
2:32:19PM AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS 100% BEHIND HAVING A DEDICATED CRA
2:32:25PM DIRECTOR BASED ON THE NOTION OF WHAT WE SAID.
2:32:27PM IT IS A CITY WITHIN A CITY.
2:32:28PM AND WE NEED TO SERVE IT LIKE THAT.
2:32:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:32:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE MAYOR AND
2:32:36PM EVERYONE FOR WORKING ON THIS IDEA.
2:32:38PM I THINK IT ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
2:32:41PM FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING
2:32:44PM WE NEED SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT IT FULL-TIME.
2:32:46PM I STILL THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE ON WHO THIS PERSON
2:32:50PM REPORTS TO.
2:32:50PM IS THAT THE NEXT POINT OR IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS POINT?
2:32:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE
2:32:56PM CLARITY ON THIS TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE AS WE PUT A RECRUITING
2:33:00PM PACKAGE TOGETHER, RIGHT NOW IT'S FALLING UNDER OUR HUMAN
2:33:02PM RESOURCE PROCESS AND THE ADMINISTRATION BENEFITS, PAY AND
2:33:08PM ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
2:33:09PM ANYTHING SEPARATE FROM THAT IS GOING TO BE A VERY
2:33:11PM INTERESTING MODEL THAT WILL PROBABLY REQUIRE A DIFFERENT
2:33:14PM WORKSHOP.
2:33:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS SET UP SO
2:33:18PM THAT THERE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE AND ONE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
2:33:22PM AND THE CRA IS LEGALLY A DIFFERENT BODY, ALTHOUGH WE
2:33:28PM OUTSOURCE TO THE CITY.
2:33:30PM WE TALKED IN THE BEGINNING ABOUT MAYBE TAKING THAT WHOLE 1.7
2:33:35PM AND USING IT SEPARATELY AND HIRING A WHOLE STAFF, BUT AT
2:33:40PM LEAST THAT WAS A CONCEPT THAT WAS THROWN OUT.
2:33:43PM NOW WE'RE AT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PART.
2:33:48PM AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT THE
2:33:54PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KNOWS THAT THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE CRA.
2:33:57PM I MEAN, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
2:33:59PM THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS.
2:34:00PM MAYBE MS. ZELMAN WILL GIVE US SOME LEGAL ADVICE.
2:34:03PM THE MODEL I PROPOSED IS THAT THIS PERSON WOULD BE HIRED JUST
2:34:06PM LIKE MARTY OR A LEGISLATIVE AIDE WITH THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS
2:34:13PM WE MADE.
2:34:14PM WE MADE IT OPEN-ENDED SO WE COULD HIRE MORE STAFF AND THE
2:34:17PM CRA COULD PUT MONEY IN THAT THING.
2:34:19PM IF IT ENDS UP THAT THE ONLY LEGAL WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE
2:34:22PM THE -- EITHER WAY THE PERSON WOULD BE UNDER THE SAME HR
2:34:26PM RULES AND EVERYTHING AND STILL WOULD BE PAID THROUGH THE
2:34:29PM CITY.
2:34:29PM BUT IF IT ENDS UP THAT THIS PERSON IS SET UP SIMILAR TO THE
2:34:38PM OTHER CRA STAFF, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE MODIFY THE
2:34:43PM AGREEMENT, THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT TO CLEARLY STATE THAT
2:34:47PM THIS PERSON REPORTS TO US.
2:34:48PM I THINK AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, IT KIND OF IMPLIED IN THE
2:34:52PM MEDIA THAT THE PERSON WAS GOING TO REPORT TO THE HEAD OF
2:34:55PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
2:34:55PM I THINK THIS PERSON SHOULD COORDINATE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
2:34:57PM MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKS TOGETHER.
2:35:01PM BUT IF THE BUCK STOPS WITH US, IF IT'S SET UP WHERE THE
2:35:04PM PERSON REPORTS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEY BOTH END UP
2:35:07PM REPORTING TO YOU AND THE MAYOR, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE
2:35:09PM RUBBER-STAMPING EVERYTHING AT THE END.
2:35:11PM IF WE WANT TO DELEGATE OUR AUTHORITY AND LET OTHER PEOPLE
2:35:15PM MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR US, THAT'S FINE.
2:35:17PM WE OUGHT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE DO THAT.
2:35:21PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THE PART THAT I'M CONFUSED ON IS I
2:35:23PM DON'T KNOW HOW THE BUCK DOESN'T STOP WITH YOU UNDER THIS
2:35:26PM MODEL EITHER BECAUSE YOU'RE ACCEPTING A SERVICE LEVEL
2:35:30PM AGREEMENT WITH A TOTAL MANAGEMENT PACKAGE TO SERVE THE
2:35:33PM CITIZENS THROUGH THIS BOARD.
2:35:36PM AND ANY SEPARATION OF THAT, TO ME, I LOSE THE TEAMWORK
2:35:40PM EFFECT OR THE CONTINUITY EFFECT OF MANAGEMENT AND RESOURCES
2:35:43PM THAT SUPPORT THAT TEAM.
2:35:46PM SO THE PART -- I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY WITHOUT
2:35:48PM BEATING AROUND THE BUSH IS WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO
2:35:52PM SOLVE IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DIRECTOR THAT HAS GOT A
2:35:56PM SEPARATION BETWEEN THE MANAGERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE
2:35:59PM CHARGED DOING THE WORK WITH ALL THE RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT
2:36:01PM THE WORK.
2:36:02PM I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT MODEL AND HOW IT CHANGES THE
2:36:06PM AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD THROUGH THE PROCESS.
2:36:09PM SO WE'RE ACTUALLY SERVING THE BOARD ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS
2:36:14PM UNDER THE CRA MODEL.
2:36:15PM SO THAT'S THE PART I'M CONFUSED ON.
2:36:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:36:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT I ALSO
2:36:23PM SEE WHERE MR. CARLSON IS GOING.
2:36:25PM IT'S A MATTER OF PERCEPTION SOMETIMES.
2:36:27PM YOU AND I KNOW WORKING IN DIFFERENT AREAS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A
2:36:34PM PERCEPTION OF THIS IS THE BOSS.
2:36:37PM AND EVEN THOUGH WE CAN SAY AND HAVE THIS AGREEMENT, IF THE
2:36:43PM PERSON IS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF STILL THE MAYOR, THEY ARE
2:36:48PM GOING TO GIVE THAT BIG PIECE OF THE PIE AND SAY I WORK FOR
2:36:52PM THE MAYOR.
2:36:52PM IT JUST GIVES A SENSE, I GUESS FOR THIS BOARD, SOME OF US,
2:36:59PM IF I HAVE A DESIGNATED PERSON WITH WHO I THOUGHT WAS -- WILL
2:37:03PM BE OUR PERSON, AND THAT PERSON WOULD BE A LIAISON WITH THE
2:37:07PM ADMINISTRATION'S PERSON, AND STILL HAVE THAT GOOD GEL
2:37:11PM WORKING TOGETHER.
2:37:12PM NOW, WE TALK ABOUT BENEFITS AND SO FORTH.
2:37:14PM WELL, THE -- OUR AIDES GET BENEFITS ALREADY.
2:37:18PM IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE COMPENSATED ON TOP OF THAT, FINE.
2:37:23PM OUR AIDES ALREADY GET THAT.
2:37:24PM I HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY TELL US, SOMETIMES
2:37:28PM DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, WE ANSWER TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
2:37:30PM DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS.
2:37:32PM OTHERWISE ANSWER TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:37:35PM I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE UNBALANCE COMES IN SOMETIMES.
2:37:37PM I THINK FOR MOST ON THE BOARD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF
2:37:41PM WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENACTING THE CRA, THAT WE HAVE A
2:37:44PM PERSON THAT KNOWS THAT YOU'RE ANSWERING TO US, BUT, YES,
2:37:48PM YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S PERSON.
2:37:51PM THAT'S JUST THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AND SEE IT.
2:37:55PM YOU KNOW, I GET THAT SOMETIMES FROM DIRECTORS NOW.
2:37:57PM I HEAR ON THE STREETS, WELL, THAT'S CITY COUNCIL.
2:38:01PM DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO THEM.
2:38:02PM IN FACT, YOU MAY ANSWER TO THE MAYOR, BUT NOTHING DOESN'T
2:38:07PM MOVE MONEY-WISE UNTIL THIS COUNCIL APPROVES IT.
2:38:11PM I GET BOTHERED WHEN I HEAR SOMETIMES, IT'S JUST CITY
2:38:13PM COUNCIL.
2:38:14PM WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY LISTEN TO THEM.
2:38:16PM I DON'T WANT TO GET THAT FEEL WITH THIS POSITION HERE.
2:38:18PM BECAUSE IT'S OUR PERSON, AND IT CAN WORK WITH THE CITY.
2:38:22PM THE DIRECTOR WE SELECT.
2:38:26PM AGAIN, IT'S A VOTE -- HOW WE NEED TO PROCEED WE'LL PROCEED.
2:38:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:38:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT DIRECTLY?
2:38:40PM YOU CAN GO FIRST.
2:38:41PM OKAY.
2:38:42PM THANK YOU.
2:38:42PM JUST A COUPLE OF ISSUES, SOMETHING THAT CHIEF BENNETT SAID
2:38:48PM IN EFFECT WHICH IS WE COULD BE LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION IN
2:38:51PM SEARCH OF A PROBLEM.
2:38:52PM I WANT TO SEE THE SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
2:38:55PM REMEDY.
2:38:55PM I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A COMPROMISE, BUT THE MOVING HALFWAY
2:38:58PM FORWARD THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF
2:39:01PM THE CONCERNS.
2:39:01PM WHEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON FIRST BROUGHT UP THIS IDEA, WAS VERY
2:39:05PM OPEN TO IT.
2:39:06PM THEN WHEN I HEARD YOU ALL MOVING FORWARD HALFWAY, I THINK
2:39:09PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY REASONABLE.
2:39:11PM THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED BEFORE, SUCH AS,
2:39:13PM FOR EXAMPLE, IN CRAs THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, IS THERE ANY
2:39:17PM OTHER CRA WHERE THE DIRECTOR REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CRA AS
2:39:21PM OPPOSED TO THE MAYOR?
2:39:23PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
2:39:25PM BUT THE ONLY THING I DO KNOW IS SOME CITIES HAVE EITHER
2:39:28PM ATTEMPTED OR DID OUTSOURCE THE ENTIRE PROCESS BUT NOT TO
2:39:35PM THIS LEVEL.
2:39:36PM I KNOW THE JURISDICTIONS WERE SMALLER AND MAYBE IT WAS AN
2:39:38PM EFFICIENCY MOVE.
2:39:39PM MAYBE THEY FIGURED CONTRACT OUT.
2:39:40PM I DON'T KNOW THE POLITICS OR THE OPERATIONS OF THAT.
2:39:43PM BUT I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW CITIES DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT
2:39:45PM MAY HAVE OUTSOURCED.
2:39:47PM BUT I DON'T KNOW OF A BIFURCATED MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE A
2:39:50PM DIRECTOR UNDER THE AUTHORITY AND DAY-TO-DAY SUPERVISION OF
2:39:54PM ONE GROUP, SEVEN BOSSES THAT SUPERVISE A GROUP OF MANAGERS
2:39:58PM AND SUPPORT STAFF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
2:40:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WOULDN'T MAKE IT WRONG IF WE WERE THE
2:40:04PM ONLY ONE TO DO IT.
2:40:05PM THAT'S NOT A PRESUMPTION THAT SOMEHOW WE WOULD BE INCORRECT
2:40:08PM IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
2:40:10PM BUT THE ISSUE IS, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS
2:40:16PM EXPERIMENTED WITH THAT, SO TO SPEAK, WHAT WERE THE RESULTS
2:40:18PM SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK.
2:40:20PM I THINK THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRES MORE INVESTIGATION
2:40:22PM BEFORE WE JUMP INTO IT, IN MY OPINION.
2:40:23PM NOW, CHIEF BENNETT, YOU ALSO TALKED, WE HAD DISCUSSED AND I
2:40:27PM THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME
2:40:29PM PRECAUTIONS TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH COUNCIL, FOR
2:40:33PM EXAMPLE, HAVING A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO HIRE THE INDIVIDUAL,
2:40:38PM AND THEN HAVING ANNUAL REVIEWS, CONTINUED VOTE OF
2:40:41PM CONFIDENCE.
2:40:41PM I KNOW THAT WOULD PUT A HAMPER FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHOEVER
2:40:45PM HE OR SHE MAY BE TO TAKE THE JOB BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE SUBJECT
2:40:49PM TO A SEVEN-PERSON BOARD.
2:40:51PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
2:40:52PM I THINK THAT'S ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
2:40:53PM THE OTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, IT WILL MAKE THE PERSON WORK
2:40:56PM EVEN HARDER TO BE ENGAGED WITH US AND ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES
2:40:59PM AND CONSTITUENTS, ET CETERA.
2:41:00PM THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT.
2:41:03PM BUT I THINK THERE'S THE COMPROMISE THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT
2:41:07PM FORWARD TO ME ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT I
2:41:09PM ORIGINALLY HAD.
2:41:10PM I THINK IT MOVES A LOT.
2:41:11PM I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IN RESPONSE TO THE LEGITIMATE
2:41:16PM CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP.
2:41:19PM I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED.
2:41:21PM BUT IN TERMS OF THIS PROPOSAL, THERE'S A LOT OF EVALUATION
2:41:25PM AND INVESTIGATION AND DIALOGUE THAT I THINK STILL NEEDS TO
2:41:29PM HAPPEN.
2:41:30PM IT'S NOT THERE IN MY OPINION AT THIS TIME.
2:41:32PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FURTHER BEFORE WE JUMP INTO SUCH A
2:41:36PM SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
2:41:40PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT.
2:41:42PM I LOOK AT IT AS A CONTINUUM.
2:41:44PM IF WE CONTINUE TO ANALYZE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE
2:41:49PM SPENDING TIME INSTEAD OF RECRUITING, SELECTING, INSTALLING,
2:41:52PM WE'LL SPEND TIME ANALYZING, WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING IF
2:41:55PM THAT'S THE BOARD'S WISH.
2:41:57PM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINUUM IS THAT AS WE GO THROUGH
2:42:00PM THIS, I ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT WHAT I CALL AN OVERCORRECTION TO
2:42:04PM SOMETHING, BECAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY OF SAFEGUARDS FOR THE
2:42:07PM BOARD BETWEEN THE SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, THE
2:42:11PM CITY HAS SHOWN AGAIN, AND I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK ON THAT,
2:42:16PM I CALL IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO OVER A COMPROMISE.
2:42:19PM THERE SHOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT IS SPECIFICALLY
2:42:22PM FOCUSED ON SERVING THE BOARD OR THROUGH THE CITIZENS,
2:42:26PM SERVING THE CITIZENS THROUGH THE BOARD WITH THE CACs,
2:42:29PM HAVING THOSE ENERGETICS, FOCUSED ON THE CRA, WORKING WITH
2:42:33PM AND IN SUPPORT OF OUR ENTIRE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOLISTIC
2:42:38PM PROCESS AND THE METRICS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
2:42:40PM I HAVE SEEN NOTHING BUT -- YOU KNOW, FROM THE TIME I'VE BEEN
2:42:45PM UP HERE, MOVING THE BAR CLOSER AND CLOSER TO WHAT THE CRA
2:42:48PM BOARD HAS ASKED FOR.
2:42:50PM I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING IN GOOD FAITH TO EXECUTE IN THE
2:42:55PM DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO.
2:42:57PM AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOME PROBLEM THAT I'M MISSING, I'M NOT
2:43:01PM AWARE OF IT AT THIS POINT.
2:43:03PM I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A MODEL -- AND I UNDERSTAND
2:43:05PM THAT THERE'S A ABILITY TO HIRE AIDES, BUT YOU'RE WORKING AS
2:43:07PM A TEAM, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ACROSS, TRYING TO
2:43:12PM WORK AS A TEAM AND I'M JUST AFRAID THAT THOSE DYNAMICS, FROM
2:43:15PM MY EXPERIENCE OF SUPERVISING AND MANAGING THOUSANDS, NOT
2:43:18PM HUNDREDS, BUT THOUSANDS, THAT YOU NEED THOSE INTERDYNAMICS
2:43:21PM AND BRINGING THAT FULL LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE BOARD ON A
2:43:25PM REGULAR BASIS THROUGH THAT DIRECTOR THAT'S DEDICATED TO THIS
2:43:28PM POSITION THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH THE BOARD.
2:43:30PM THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK.
2:43:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:43:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN TERMS OF THE PROBLEM, I WON'T GO BACK AND
2:43:40PM TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
2:43:42PM BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY BROUGHT
2:43:45PM UP AND COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKS ABOUT THAT IT'S NOT A
2:43:49PM HONEYMOON PERIOD.
2:43:51PM I HOPE SO, I AGREE WITH THAT.
2:43:53PM I LIKE YOU.
2:43:53PM I TRUST YOU.
2:43:54PM I TRUST THE MAYOR.
2:43:55PM I THINK YOU ALL ARE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH.
2:43:58PM I'M TERRIFIED OF SOMETHING HAPPENING LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN
2:44:01PM THE LAST FEW YEARS.
2:44:01PM THE COMMUNITY WAS VERY UNHAPPY IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
2:44:04PM IF IT ENDS UP THAT WHEN THE HONEYMOON PERIOD IS OVER, IT
2:44:10PM TURNS INTO US RUBBER-STAMPING THINGS AGAIN, THEN WE'RE GOING
2:44:14PM TO GET ALL THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GOING
2:44:16PM TO HAVE NO POWER TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
2:44:18PM AND SO THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS.
2:44:22PM I TRUST YOU ALL AND I THINK YOU'RE SHOWING IN GOOD FAITH
2:44:26PM LOTS OF THINGS.
2:44:27PM OF COURSE, THERE ARE WHISPERS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW
2:44:30PM THINGS WILL CHANGE IF WE DON'T MAKE THIS DECISION.
2:44:33PM WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
2:44:34PM WE LOOK AT OTHER AGENCIES, LIKE THE ONE WE DEALT WITH LAST
2:44:37PM WEEK THAT SHOWED DISDAIN FOR CITY COUNCIL AND SHOWED THAT
2:44:41PM THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANY INFLUENCE THAT CITY COUNCIL MIGHT
2:44:43PM HAVE.
2:44:44PM AND I THINK SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT THERE'S NOT
2:44:47PM ONLY ONE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND IN THE
2:44:51PM CASE OF CRA, BY LAW, ACTUALLY, WE'RE IN CHARGE.
2:44:54PM SO IF WE DON'T TAKE THAT, THEN WE'RE GIVING IT AWAY.
2:44:58PM IN TERMS OF SOLUTIONS, SOMEHOW I DIDN'T HEAR THE ONE THAT
2:45:02PM YOU JUST MENTIONED, THAT MR. DINGFELDER MENTIONED ABOUT
2:45:05PM REPORTING STRUCTURE AND SUPERMAJORITY.
2:45:09PM I MEAN, THE WAY I WOULD TALK ABOUT THE INTERVIEW PROCESS,
2:45:14PM THE WAY I MENTIONED IT BEFORE, THE CRA BOARD WOULD ASK THAT
2:45:20PM THE STAFF AND MAYOR PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
2:45:21PM THE WAY HE PRESENTED IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
2:45:23PM THAT'S KIND OF THE LANGUAGE AND THOUGHT THAT I'M THINKING,
2:45:26PM WHERE IS THIS GOING TO END UP?
2:45:28PM HEAR ABOUT THINGS AFTER DEALS ARE DONE OR DECISIONS ARE MADE
2:45:32PM AND WE MIGHT BE INCLUDED IN THE DECISIONS OR WE'RE FIRST IN
2:45:35PM THE DECISION MAKING BECAUSE WE ARE THE LEGAL BOARD OF THE
2:45:38PM CRA AND THEN WE'LL BRING EVERYBODY ELSE IN BECAUSE WE WANT
2:45:42PM TO BE COLLABORATIVE.
2:45:43PM IF THERE IS A SOLUTION WHERE WE CAN SET UP A REVIEW PROCESS,
2:45:46PM YOU KNOW, THE AVIATION AUTHORITY BOARD, THE PORT BOARD,
2:45:49PM OTHER BOARDS, THEY ALL GIVE REVIEWS AND FEEDBACK TO THEIR
2:45:53PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS.
2:45:54PM IF WE CAN DO THAT AS A CRA BOARD, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT,
2:45:57PM BECAUSE THAT IS A REVIEW PROCESS.
2:45:59PM WE HAVE A CHANCE WITH 30 DAYS' NOTICE TO CANCEL THAT
2:46:02PM OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT WHENEVER WE WANT.
2:46:05PM I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SHOW THAT -- SHOW THIS PERSON THAT
2:46:08PM THEY ULTIMATELY, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY,
2:46:11PM ULTIMATELY THEY ARE REPORTING TO THE CRA BOARD.
2:46:13PM OTHERWISE, ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND FROM
2:46:16PM 163, IS WE CAN DELEGATE THIS WHOLE AUTHORITY TO ANOTHER
2:46:19PM BOARD.
2:46:19PM WE CAN SET UP A SEPARATE CRA BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T
2:46:22PM HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS AT ALL IF WE DON'T WANT THE
2:46:26PM AUTHORITY.
2:46:27PM I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT.
2:46:29PM I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
2:46:31PM SOMEHOW EITHER THE PERSON IS WORKING FOR US INSIDE THE CITY
2:46:34PM STAFF OR WE NEED TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT THE ULTIMATE
2:46:37PM AUTHORITY ON THE CRA IS THE CRA BOARD.
2:46:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
2:46:44PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JOHN, CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE OVERHEAD?
2:46:46PM TWO POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE.
2:46:50PM NUMBER ONE, LOUIS, CHAIRMAN VIERA, I'M GLAD YOU REMINDED ME
2:46:55PM ABOUT MY BRILLIANT IDEA.
2:46:57PM [ LAUGHTER ]
2:46:57PM BUT I THINK -- AND MR. CARLSON ACKNOWLEDGED IT.
2:47:02PM I THINK THAT PERHAPS THAT CAN SOLVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS IN
2:47:06PM THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF OUR CONCERNS, BECAUSE IF WE DO AN
2:47:10PM ANNUAL REVIEW, AND THAT PERSON DOESN'T GET AT LEAST FIVE
2:47:14PM VOTES, THAT'S PRETTY HEAVY HAMMER OVER SOMEBODY TO REMIND
2:47:18PM THEM THE OTHER 364 DAYS OF THE YEAR THAT AT THE END OF THE
2:47:22PM DAY, THEY WORK WITH THAT ADMINISTRATION, BUT THEY SURE AS
2:47:28PM HECK HAVE TO ANSWER TO US.
2:47:29PM IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PARADIGM SHIFT, BUT I KIND OF LIKE
2:47:33PM IT.
2:47:33PM THANKS FOR THE REMINDER ON THAT.
2:47:34PM MR. BENNETT, IF YOU COULD ZOOM THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT SO
2:47:37PM THEY COULD SEE MY SCRIBBLE IN FULL.
2:47:39PM I MENTIONED THIS TO CHIEF BENNETT A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE
2:47:56PM LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
2:47:57PM THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS PURSUANT TO THE 18-POINT AGREEMENT,
2:48:01PM WHATEVER IT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE, THE MAYOR AND HER
2:48:06PM STAFF ANSWER TO THE CRA.
2:48:08PM THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
2:48:13PM THAT'S WHY I PUT UP THESE TWO SCENARIOS.
2:48:15PM WE HAVE THE CRA.
2:48:16PM ON THIS ONE DAY A MONTH, THE MAYOR ANSWERS TO US.
2:48:19PM AS THAT.
2:48:21PM BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE AGREEMENT READS.
2:48:23PM AND LIKE SOMEBODY SAID A MINUTE AGO, IF WE WANT OUT WITHIN
2:48:27PM 30 DAYS OR 90 DAYS, WE CAN ALWAYS GET OUT.
2:48:29PM BUT MY CONCERN WAS, AND I READ THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER AND I
2:48:34PM WASN'T AWARE OF IT UNTIL I READ IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, THAT
2:48:38PM THE NEXT LEVEL IS THAT WHERE SHOULD THE CRA PERSON SIT IN
2:48:43PM THEIR CHAIN OF COMMAND?
2:48:45PM AND I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IN SCENARIO B, WHERE
2:48:48PM THE CRA DIRECTOR IS ON AN EVEN LEVEL WITH THAT ECONOMIC
2:48:52PM DEVELOPMENT PERSON.
2:48:53PM NOT SCENARIO A, WHICH IS WHAT I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER, WHICH
2:48:58PM IS WHERE THE CRA DIRECTOR ANSWERS TO THE ECONOMIC
2:49:01PM DEVELOPMENT PERSON.
2:49:03PM SO I KNOW, I'M ON A LITTLE SHAKY GROUND TRYING TO SUGGEST TO
2:49:06PM THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, HOW SHE SETS UP HER STRUCTURE AND THAT
2:49:10PM SORT OF THING, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR UNIQUE, VERY UNIQUE
2:49:14PM SITUATION, I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING WHAT
2:49:18PM THAT CRA -- KNOWING THAT CRA DIRECTOR WAS ON THE SAME LEVEL,
2:49:22PM IN THE HIERARCHY, IN THE PECKING LEVEL OF THE ADMINISTRATION
2:49:24PM IF THEY WERE SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE ECONOMIC DIRECTOR.
2:49:27PM LET ME TELL YOU TWO REASONS WHY, IN MY OPINION.
2:49:30PM FOR ONE THING, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THIS,
2:49:34PM THERE'S A LOT OF SYMBOLISM OUT THERE.
2:49:36PM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY GOVERNMENT AND 5,000 PEOPLE,
2:49:39PM WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THAT CRA DIRECTOR HAS THE DIRECT EAR TO
2:49:43PM THE MAYOR, AS ANSWERS DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR, NOT THROUGH THE
2:49:46PM E.D., BUT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR, THEN THAT PERSON GAINS SOME
2:49:51PM POWER JUST IN TERMS OF THAT POSITIONING ON THE CHART.
2:49:55PM NUMBER TWO, IS COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER STAFF.
2:49:59PM SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF ED JOHNSON WANTS TO DO BUILD A
2:50:03PM SIDEWALK IN EAST TAMPA AND HE ROUTES IT UP THROUGH THE CRA
2:50:07PM DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, THAT HE'S HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE
2:50:12PM CONSTRUCTION STAFF OR THE PURCHASING STAFF OR WHATEVER,
2:50:15PM AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT PURCHASING STAFF AND THAT CONSTRUCTION
2:50:19PM STAFF, THEY MIGHT JUMP TO IT A LOT BETTER KNOWING THAT THAT
2:50:23PM CRA DIRECTOR IS PLACED UP THERE AT THE HIGHER LEVEL.
2:50:27PM SO THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON THAT.
2:50:31PM I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE STRONGLY RECOMMENDING TO CHIEF
2:50:35PM BENNETT AND THE MAYOR THAT THEY LOOK AT THAT B SCENARIO, AND
2:50:39PM I'M NOT SPRINGING THIS ON JOHN BECAUSE HE AND I TALKED ABOUT
2:50:43PM IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
2:50:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I LOOK AT IT AS TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS.
2:50:52PM I COULD DRAW ON YOURS, BUT THE ONE, WHETHER IT'S A OR B, TO
2:50:56PM ME, THAT IS THE HR TRACK.
2:50:58PM FOR REGULAR PERFORMANCE APPRAISALS AND COMPENSATION AND
2:51:02PM EVERYTHING, THAT PERSON REPORTS UP TO THE MAYOR.
2:51:04PM BUT THEN THERE IS A SEPARATE LINE WHERE THE WHOLE GROUP IS
2:51:10PM AN OUTSOURCE SERVICE -- HAPPENS TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY,
2:51:14PM COULD BE PROVIDED BY ANYBODY.
2:51:15PM BUT IT'S PROVIDED BY THE CITY TO THE CRA BOARD.
2:51:18PM AND IN THAT WAY, FROM A CRA PERFORMANCE POINT OF VIEW, THE
2:51:23PM PERSON REPORTS DIRECTLY TO CRA.
2:51:24PM IT'S ONLY FROM THE HR POINT OF VIEW THAT THE PERSON REPORTS
2:51:28PM UP THROUGH THE OTHER CHAIN OF COMMAND.
2:51:32PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THAT'S WHERE I SEE IT OPERATIONALLY.
2:51:35PM I SEE THE OPERATIONAL ASPECT OF THE CRA DIRECTOR AND THE
2:51:38PM STAFF OF THE CRA DIRECTOR SERVING THIS BOARD AND BEING
2:51:47PM ADMINISTRATED UNDER THE THINGS YOU DISCUSS.
2:51:49PM IT'S ALL GOING TO COME DOWN TO OBVIOUSLY THE COLLABORATIVE
2:51:53PM APPROACH THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO REACH THE SAME GOALS.
2:51:56PM WHEN THE MAYOR APPOINTS AN ECONOMIC ADMINISTRATOR, IF YOU
2:52:00PM WILL, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER JUST LIKE
2:52:03PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER HERE.
2:52:05PM I THINK IF YOU REMEMBER MY COMMENT LAST TIME, THE REASON I
2:52:08PM WANTED TO GET MOMENTUM ON THE SELECTION PROCESS AND
2:52:11PM RECRUITING PROCESS -- I'M SORRY, RECRUITING AND SELECTION
2:52:14PM PROCESS IS BECAUSE CHEMISTRY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
2:52:18PM AND I THINK IF WE SOCIALIZE THAT CHEMISTRY THROUGH THIS
2:52:22PM PROCESS AND GET NEAR THE FINALIZATION AND INSTALLATION, THEN
2:52:26PM THE MAYOR IS READY TO ANNOUNCE AN ECONOMIC ADMINISTRATOR,
2:52:31PM THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS GOING TO BE PART AND PARCEL OF
2:52:34PM THAT.
2:52:36PM IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER TEAM, THE MORE CHEMISTRY YOU HAVE, THE
2:52:40PM MORE WE CAN GET ACCOMPLISHED.
2:52:41PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DELIVERING THE
2:52:44PM SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE DONE THROUGH THE CRA
2:52:51PM PROCESS.
2:52:51PM I HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADING WITH ADDING A
2:52:57PM DIRECTOR AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, SEPARATING FROM THE
2:53:00PM CRA.
2:53:01PM I'M SORRY, FOR THE ECONOMIC ADMINISTRATOR.
2:53:03PM MY LARGER CONCERNS WAS GETTING MORE SYNTHESIS IN OUR
2:53:06PM STRATEGIC PLANS AND THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY DRIVE US TO THE
2:53:10PM END GAME THROUGH THE PEOPLE THAT WE PUT IN EACH POSITION.
2:53:13PM YOU HAVE A GOOD STRATEGY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET GOOD OUTCOMES
2:53:17PM WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
2:53:18PM THAT'S THE PART THROUGH THE WORKSHOP THAT I WAS HOPING TO DO
2:53:22PM WAS GET A RESET ON A LOT OF OUR STRATEGIC MOMENTUM AND MAKE
2:53:25PM SURE WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO EXECUTE.
2:53:27PM I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE'LL FIND THE RIGHT PERSON AND THE
2:53:29PM RIGHT TEAM TO GET THAT DONE.
2:53:31PM ONCE AGAIN, I'LL SEND IT WITH, THERE IS NO LACK OF SERVICE
2:53:36PM DIRECTION TOWARDS THE BOARD IN THIS.
2:53:39PM THAT'S HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO SUPPORT THAT
2:53:42PM POSITION.
2:53:42PM WHETHER A SET OF LINES THROUGH HR OR A SET OF
2:53:46PM RESPONSIBILITIES THROUGH YOUR SERVICE AGREEMENT, OUR ONLY
2:53:48PM COMMITMENT IS TO GET THIS DONE AND WE UNDERSTAND THE
2:53:51PM POSITION, THE POWER, AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CRA
2:53:54PM BOARD.
2:53:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I LOOK AT THE SCHEMATICS OF A AND B,
2:54:01PM ECONOMIC PERSON.
2:54:02PM THAT IS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.
2:54:04PM DOES THAT POSITION HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL?
2:54:06PM ALL RIGHT.
2:54:09PM GO BACK TO THE CRA.
2:54:11PM APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, DOES IT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE
2:54:14PM MAYOR?
2:54:14PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
2:54:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE AT A STAND-STILL.
2:54:18PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
2:54:19PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ARGUMENT IS.
2:54:20PM I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M SAYING THEY ARE EITHER GOING TO
2:54:30PM GET ALONG OR NOT.
2:54:31PM WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BE HIRED.
2:54:34PM MAYBE TWO WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET ALONG.
2:54:36PM THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE DIVORCES.
2:54:38PM I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND SAID, I'VE ALWAYS -- OTHER ELECTED
2:54:45PM OFFICIALS UNTIL THEY CROSSED THE LINE.
2:54:47PM I HAVEN'T FOUND ONE YET THAT CROSSED THE LINE.
2:54:50PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
2:54:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:54:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M WILLING TO MAKE COMPROMISES AND
2:55:02PM CONCESSIONS, BUT JUST IN MY KEEN MIND, WE'VE GOT ONE AVENUE
2:55:13PM OVER HERE AND THIS OTHER AVENUE OVER HERE, BUT AGAIN, THIS
2:55:16PM AVENUE KIND OF CONNECTS TO THIS OTHER AVENUE.
2:55:19PM BUT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING SO FAR.
2:55:29PM THEY HAVE.
2:55:29PM I HAVE TO GIVE THEM CREDIT TO THAT.
2:55:31PM ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT THE MAYOR, NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE
2:55:36PM AT, I HEARD IT'S NEVER HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
2:55:39PM ALWAYS RECOGNIZE COUNCIL.
2:55:42PM SITTING SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK, HAS US COME TO THE BACK, FROM
2:55:45PM THE GET-GO, WE SHOULD BE IN THE FRONT ALREADY WHEN SHE GETS
2:55:48PM THERE VERSUS US FINDING A PARKING SPACE WAY DOWN THE ROAD.
2:55:52PM I CAN SAY SHE DOES ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCIL.
2:55:59PM HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THAT WILL START TRICKLING TO THE OTHER
2:56:01PM DIRECTORS IN THE CITY THAT COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT, TOO.
2:56:06PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT GEL TO UNDERSTAND, HEY,
2:56:15PM THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE THE DRIVING FORCE.
2:56:18PM THIS PERSON IS DRIVING THE CITY, BUT THEY ARE MEETING AT
2:56:21PM SOME POINT AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.
2:56:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:56:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VOTE ON
2:56:31PM THIS SPECIFIC THING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
2:56:35PM STAFF COME BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH
2:56:38PM RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN SET UP TO REPORTING AND
2:56:44PM APPROVAL STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
2:56:47PM DINGFELDER SPOKE ABOUT, WHERE IT'S CLEAR TO THE PERSON BEING
2:56:53PM HIRED THAT AT LEAST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THEY ARE BEING
2:56:56PM REVIEWED BY THE CRA BOARD.
2:56:58PM >> SECOND.
2:56:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SPEAK TO THAT.
2:57:01PM I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
2:57:03PM MR. CARLSON.
2:57:05PM BUT IN A AND B, NO MATTER WHO YOU HIRE, THEY ARE STILL HUMAN
2:57:09PM BEINGS.
2:57:10PM NO MATTER WHO IT IS, THEY ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE
2:57:13PM DIFFERENCES OF OPINION TO SOME DEGREE.
2:57:15PM SO WHETHER IT'S A OR B, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF THE MAYOR
2:57:19PM IS THERE OR NOT BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T GET ALONG, THEY DON'T
2:57:23PM GET ALONG.
2:57:24PM AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MAYOR AND THE DIRECTOR OR THE
2:57:27PM MAYOR AND THE ECONOMIC INDIVIDUAL.
2:57:30PM IF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS DON'T GET ALONG, FORGET ABOUT THE
2:57:34PM MAYOR AND FORGET ABOUT THE COUNCIL.
2:57:35PM THEN YOU GOT CHAOS STARTED SOMEWHERE OR KINDLING OF
2:57:40PM SOMETHING STARTED.
2:57:41PM SO IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO YOU HIRE.
2:57:43PM MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO WE APPROVE.
2:57:45PM IF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS, THIS IS HUMAN ASPECT, IF I DON'T
2:57:49PM GET ALONG WITH MY WIFE, I'M GOING TO GET A DIVORCE OR I'LL
2:57:52PM BE KICKED OUT OF THE HOUSE.
2:57:54PM ONE OF THE TWO.
2:57:55PM SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO PUT INTO IT, IF THESE TWO HUMAN
2:57:58PM BEINGS, WHOEVER THEY ARE, AGREE ON SOMETHING, THAT'S FINE.
2:58:02PM AND THERE'S GOING TO BE DISAGREEMENT.
2:58:04PM THERE'S DISAGREEMENTS.
2:58:06PM MANY 3-4 VOTES.
2:58:08PM WE DON'T STOP SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER.
2:58:10PM MAYBE TOMORROW I WILL.
2:58:11PM BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YA IS, I CAN'T HAVE A PERFECT
2:58:16PM SHOW.
2:58:16PM THERE IS NOTHING IN THE WORLD THAT'S PERFECT OTHER THAN ONE
2:58:19PM PERSON AND HE'S NOT HERE NO MORE.
2:58:21PM WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO YOU
2:58:25PM HIRE.
2:58:26PM THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE COMMUNICATION AND THEY GOT TO HAVE AN
2:58:29PM UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE GOAL IS.
2:58:30PM HOW YOU GET TO THE GOAL IS UP TO THESE TWO PERSONS AND THEN
2:58:34PM WITH THE HELP OF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.
2:58:35PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
2:58:37PM IT AIN'T ABOUT POWER.
2:58:38PM THERE IS NO POWER IN GOVERNMENT.
2:58:39PM THERE IS A VOICE IN GOVERNMENT BUT NO ONE OF US CONTROLS
2:58:48PM EVERYTHING.
2:58:48PM THANK YOU.
2:58:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
2:58:52PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION AND SECOND?
2:58:53PM >> YES.
2:58:54PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION.
2:58:56PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
2:58:57PM -- FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO HELP, MR. BENNETT AND HIS HR TEAM
2:59:03PM SPEED THINGS ALONG, AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
2:59:06PM BUT TO HELP THEM SPEED ALONG, INSTEAD OF COMING BACK AND
2:59:10PM THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR ANOTHER MONTH, WHY DON'T
2:59:13PM WE JUST INCORPORATE IT INTO DIRECTION TO SAY, OKAY, START
2:59:18PM THAT RECRUITING PROCESS BUT INCLUDE THAT FIVE-VOTE CONCEPT
2:59:25PM BOTH AT THE FRONT END AND AT THE ANNUAL END AS PART OF IT,
2:59:30PM AND THEN THAT WAY MR. BENNETT CAN GET ON WITH IT.
2:59:34PM >>JOHN BENNETT: CAN I PROVIDE A LITTLE FEEDBACK BEFORE THE
2:59:37PM MOTION?
2:59:37PM THANK YOU.
2:59:38PM I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK WE COULD RUN THIS CONCURRENTLY FOR
2:59:44PM THE SAKE OF TIME WHICH IS ONE OF MY THREE PIECES OF THE
2:59:49PM MANAGEMENT TRIANGLE, TIME QUALITY RESOURCES.
2:59:51PM WE WANT TO KEEP TIME MOVING.
2:59:53PM FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING THINGS MOVING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
2:59:59PM I WANT TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
3:00:01PM IF THERE WAS A REVIEW, MUCH LIKE I SAW IN THE COUNTY
3:00:06PM GOVERNMENT MODEL, WHERE YOU OBVIOUSLY HAD A CHAIRPERSON, YOU
3:00:11PM HAD A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT TO SEVEN BOSSES, AND THEY
3:00:14PM WOULD GET REVIEWS FROM EACH.
3:00:17PM I RESPECT THAT IN SPIRIT.
3:00:19PM BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, IF ANY -- IF FIVE OF YOU CALLED
3:00:24PM ME OR THE MAYOR SIX MONTHS INTO THIS AND SAID -- I'M NOT
3:00:29PM SURE WHAT YOU THINK WE WOULD DO OTHER THAN TAKE ACTION TO
3:00:32PM CONTINUE TO SERVE THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY THE WAY WE
3:00:34PM NEEDED TO DO IT.
3:00:35PM SO I LOOK AT IT AS THIS.
3:00:38PM WE WANT TO BRING YOU THE RECRUITING PACKAGE, WHICH IS REALLY
3:00:40PM THE RFP.
3:00:42PM WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOU IN THE SELECTION PROCESS SO YOU GET
3:00:44PM THE RIGHT CHEMISTRY AND YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE HIRE.
3:00:49PM AND THEN WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOU IN THE FEEDBACK LOOP BECAUSE
3:00:52PM THIS PERSON WOULD SERVE THE BOARD DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO GET
3:00:55PM THE CRA PROCESS DONE WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM
3:00:57PM AND THE SUPPORT STAFF AND THE REST OF ALL THE LOGISTICS AND
3:01:01PM SUPPORT FROM CITY GOVERNMENT.
3:01:03PM SO THE MODEL IS IN PLACE TO BASICALLY DO THAT REVIEW WITHOUT
3:01:08PM THE FORMALITY.
3:01:09PM IF YOU WANT THE INFORMALITY SCOPED OUT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT
3:01:14PM MONTH, HAPPY TO DO THAT.
3:01:15PM BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S BY DEFAULT IT ALREADY
3:01:18PM EXISTS.
3:01:19PM I LOOK AT YOU AS SEVEN BOARD EXECUTIVES LOOKING TO HIRE AN
3:01:24PM INDIVIDUAL TO RUN THE CRA THROUGH THE POWER OF THIS BOARD
3:01:27PM FOR THE SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY AND AT ANY TIME THE BOARD
3:01:32PM IS DISSATISFIED WITH THAT -- THE OTHER PIECE I WANT TO TALK
3:01:35PM ABOUT IS TO PUT OUR FEET IN THE SHOES OF A PERSON WHO'S
3:01:39PM APPLYING FOR THIS POSITION AND ASKING HOW MANY FOLKS MAY OR
3:01:43PM MAY NOT APPLY IF THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S THIS DEEP CONCERN
3:01:48PM ABOUT HOW THINGS GO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE OVERSIGHT AND
3:01:51PM THE ADMINISTRATION.
3:01:52PM BUT IF THAT'S THE REQUEST AND WE COULD PACKAGE THE
3:01:56PM RECRUITING PACKAGE AND THE OVERSIGHT AT THE SAME TIME AND
3:01:59PM BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN A MONTH.
3:02:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
3:02:03PM YOU KNOW, MY MAIN THING IS, I DIDN'T WANT TO ENTER INTO THIS
3:02:09PM WITH A RELATIONSHIP THAT IS GOING SO WELL WITH SUSPICIOUS
3:02:15PM MINDS.
3:02:16PM HOW DOES THAT SONG GO, CAUGHT IN A TRAP, CAN'T WALK OUT
3:02:22PM BECAUSE I LOVE YOU TOO MUCH, BABY.
3:02:24PM I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THIS WITH SUSPICIOUS MINDS.
3:02:28PM WHAT'S THAT OLD SAYING, IF YOU'RE A HAMMER, EVERYTHING IS A
3:02:32PM NAIL, RIGHT?
3:02:33PM I DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL TO BE THE HAMMER THAT WILL SEE
3:02:37PM THIS ADMINISTRATION AS THE NAIL, SO TO SPEAK, OR VICE VERSA.
3:02:41PM WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SAFEGUARDS, THE WAY I TAKE COUNCILMAN
3:02:45PM CARLSON'S MOTION THAT INCORPORATES COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
3:02:48PM GENERAL IDEAS IS SOME LEVEL OF COUNCIL ACCOUNTABILITY.
3:02:52PM NOW, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT A VOTE THAT SAYS EVERYTHING SINGLE
3:02:56PM YEAR, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SIX MEMBERS OF COUNCIL APPROVING
3:02:58PM YOU OR ELSE YOU'RE GONE OR FIVE MEMBERS THAT MAY BE TOO
3:03:02PM DRACONIAN.
3:03:03PM YOU COULD MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE THROUGH A SUPER
3:03:07PM MAJORITY ON CITY COUNCIL, THE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE,
3:03:10PM 5-2.
3:03:11PM AGAIN, I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS.
3:03:13PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN IN THAT REGARD.
3:03:18PM SO THAT SOME OF OUR CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED IN PLACE OF
3:03:21PM SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE DRACONIAN.
3:03:24PM FOR THE HIRE, I ALMOST WANT TO MAKE IT A SEVEN -- WE
3:03:28PM SHOULDN'T DO THIS, BUT I WANT TO GET A 7-0 VOTE ON THE HIRE.
3:03:31PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE WANT TO DRIVE THAT MODEL.
3:03:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: AMEN.
3:03:35PM 5-2, 6-1 VOTE ON THESE ISSUES THAT WE SEE.
3:03:38PM IT'S GOT TO BE A 7-0 VOTE.
3:03:40PM BUT SOME MEASURE OF ACCOUNTABILITY I THINK TO BE INSTITUTED
3:03:43PM IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IN MY OPINION.
3:03:47PM BUT IT CAN'T BE -- THERE'S A BALANCE.
3:03:50PM IT CAN'T BE SO DRACONIAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING BACK
3:03:55PM GOOD PEOPLE FROM COMING, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE DO NEED
3:03:58PM SOME MEASURE OF ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.
3:04:00PM I DO THINK THAT SOMETHING CAN BE FORMULATED THAT WE CAN ALL
3:04:03PM SUPPORT, I THINK.
3:04:04PM THAT'S MY OPINION.
3:04:05PM IF THE MOTION IS TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK WITH SOME
3:04:13PM SUGGESTIONS TO BE HAD, I CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.
3:04:17PM I THINK THAT'S FINE.
3:04:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
3:04:30PM WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY COUNCILMAN
3:04:33PM CARLSON, AMENDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:04:36PM ARE YOU ACCEPTABLE TO THAT?
3:04:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:04:39PM ACCEPTABLE TO --
3:04:40PM >>THE CLERK: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ASK THAT THE MOTION BE
3:04:42PM STATED IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR THE RECORD?
3:04:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:04:46PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:04:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SHOULD WRITE IT DOWN WHEN I SAY IT.
3:04:52PM SO THE PART YOU ADDED WAS THAT WE APPROVE FOR THE CITY TO GO
3:04:59PM FORWARD TO HIRE --
3:05:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INITIATE THE RECRUITING PROCESS AND THEN
3:05:06PM ADDING ON THE 5-2 VOTE.
3:05:10PM I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ANNUALLY OR WHAT.
3:05:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ASK THE
3:05:16PM CITY TO PROCEED WITH THE HIRING OF THE CRA EXECUTIVE
3:05:21PM DIRECTOR AND THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, STAFF WOULD COME BACK
3:05:29PM TO US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROVIDING AT LEAST ANNUAL
3:05:38PM OVERSIGHT AND FEEDBACK OF THIS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BY THE CRA
3:05:43PM BOARD.
3:05:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD GENERAL MOTION
3:05:51PM THAT SHOULD GET WIDE SUPPORT AND IT LEAVES STAFF WITH A
3:05:56PM NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY
3:05:58PM THAT I THINK WILL GET WIDESPREAD SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL AS
3:06:02PM WELL AS, I WOULD THINK THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.
3:06:04PM I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT.
3:06:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
3:06:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
3:06:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION WITH THE CITY,
3:06:13PM I THINK.
3:06:14PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THIS IS NOT FOR ME OR MY EGO.
3:06:18PM IT'S TO SHOW THE PUBLIC, BACK TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
3:06:22PM THE PUBLIC HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE DONE
3:06:25PM BEFORE.
3:06:26PM SORRY TO HAVE THAT SCAR TISSUE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO BRING
3:06:29PM FORWARD IN THIS SITUATION.
3:06:31PM WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD TRUST AND HATE TO DO THAT.
3:06:34PM WHETHER IT'S OPTION A OR B, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM
3:06:40PM A PUBLIC-FACING POINT OF VIEW TO SHOW A OR B AS THE HR
3:06:46PM STRUCTURE, AND THEN SEPARATELY TO SHOW THE OUTSOURCE
3:06:51PM STRUCTURE.
3:06:51PM WHETHER IT'S ANOTHER LINE OR A DOTTED LINE, THE EXECUTIVE
3:06:54PM DIRECTOR --
3:06:55PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
3:06:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO THAT IT SHOWS THE PERSON, IF THE CRA
3:07:02PM BOARD CANCELS THE CONTRACT, THAT PERSON IS STILL WORKING FOR
3:07:06PM THE MAYOR.
3:07:07PM THE MAYOR MAY OR MAY NOT DECIDE TO KEEP THE PERSON BUT THE
3:07:11PM PERSON HAS TO PERFORM THE WAY THE CRA BOARD WANTS.
3:07:14PM SOMEHOW THERE'S TWO BOSSES.
3:07:15PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
3:07:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF THERE WAS A CHART LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD
3:07:19PM SHOW AND MAYBE IN OUR ANNUAL REPORTS THAT MS. VAN LOAN DOES,
3:07:22PM IF WE COULD HAVE THAT IN THE FRONT EVEN JUST TO SHOW PEOPLE
3:07:25PM THAT IT IS A DUAL RELATIONSHIP.
3:07:27PM WE NEED TO ALL ENTER THIS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF
3:07:31PM COLLEGIALITY, TOO, WHICH I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND THE
3:07:34PM MAYOR'S HELP IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.
3:07:35PM IT'S MORE THAN A COMPROMISE.
3:07:37PM IT'S GENEROUS THAT YOU ALL ARE BEING SO KIND ABOUT WORKING
3:07:39PM WITH US ON THIS.
3:07:40PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WELL, I THINK AND, YOU KNOW, VERY
3:07:42PM INFREQUENTLY I SPEAK FOR THE MAYOR BECAUSE SHE'S MUCH BETTER
3:07:45PM AT IT THAN I AM, BUT WE REALLY TRY AND KEEP OUR EYE ON THE
3:07:48PM BALL.
3:07:49PM AND THE BALL TO ME IS THE CITIZENS AND THE OUTCOMES THAT
3:07:51PM THEY GET.
3:07:52PM WHILE WE'RE STILL EARLY IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, SEEING WHERE
3:07:56PM WE'RE GOING AND SEEING THE COMMUNITY COME IN, I LOOK AT THE
3:07:58PM COMMUNITY'S COMMENTS AS A BADGE OF HONOR BECAUSE WE HAVE --
3:08:01PM WE LIVE IN A GREAT COUNTRY AND A GREAT CITY THAT YOU CAN
3:08:04PM COME IN AND YOU CAN BRING YOUR PASSION TO THE FLOOR, AND WE
3:08:07PM NEED TO LISTEN.
3:08:08PM EVEN IF WE NEED TO CALL OUT CERTAIN THINGS TO GET AN
3:08:13PM OPERATIONAL UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
3:08:15PM I THINK IT'S ALL HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
3:08:17PM I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD TODAY ABOUT PUTTING
3:08:20PM THIS TOGETHER AND BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU IN 30 DAYS.
3:08:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:08:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS I LOOK AT THE CHART, THE MANAGERS, ARE
3:08:39PM THERE CURRENTLY ANNUAL VEILS ON THE MANAGERS -- EVALUATIONS
3:08:44PM ON THE MANAGERS TODAY?
3:08:46PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I HAVE ONE HERE, YES.
3:08:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE MANAGERS NOW ARE GETTING CURRENT
3:08:51PM EVALUATIONS NOW.
3:08:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, THE MANAGERS IN THE FORMER
3:08:55PM ADMINISTRATION, THE MANAGERS REPORTED, INCLUDING THE SUPPORT
3:09:00PM STAFF, TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEY
3:09:04PM WROTE -- SO IN THIS CASE, THE NEW DIRECTOR WOULD BE WRITING
3:09:07PM THOSE EVALUATIONS.
3:09:08PM I ALSO ASKED FOR MIDTERMS, BECAUSE I'M -- TO ME, IT'S A BIG
3:09:14PM DEAL TO HEAR, GET FEEDBACK AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR, IF NOT
3:09:18PM DAILY.
3:09:19PM SO, YES, THOSE WILL EXIST.
3:09:23PM AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING TO GET THOSE BETTER ACROSS THE
3:09:25PM ENTIRE CITY AS WELL.
3:09:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
3:09:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:09:30PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.
3:09:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
3:09:35PM CARLSON.
3:09:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:09:37PM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
3:09:38PM OPPOSED?
3:09:40PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE.
3:09:43PM SO I WOULD LIKE -- HERE'S MY MOTION ON A AND B JUST TO GET
3:09:49PM IT ADDRESSED, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO IMPOSE ON THE LAST
3:09:52PM MOTION.
3:09:53PM I WANTED IT TO BE CLEANER.
3:09:56PM I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS BODY RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS
3:10:00PM THAT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION HIRES AND WHEN WE ALL HIRE THE
3:10:06PM CRA DIRECTOR AND EVERYTHING GETS SET UP AND THEY HIRE AN
3:10:09PM E.D. AND EVERYTHING GETS SET UP, THAT THEY RESPECTFULLY
3:10:16PM CONSIDER GOING WITH THE B APPROACH.
3:10:21PM AGAIN, I'M NOT THRILLED ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE CRA DIRECTOR
3:10:26PM BEING SUBSERVIENT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHO
3:10:31PM THEN ANSWERS TO JOHN AND THE MAYOR AND YA-DA YA-DA YA-DA.
3:10:36PM I CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO BUT WE CAN RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
3:10:43PM THEY CONSIDER THE B SCENARIO INSTEAD OF A.
3:10:45PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT'S DULY NOTED.
3:10:47PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S A MOTION.
3:10:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:10:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK ON THE CHART, THEY REPORT TO YOU,
3:10:59PM RIGHT?
3:10:59PM THEY DON'T REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR.
3:10:59PM DOESN'T EVERYBODY REPORT TO YOU?
3:10:59PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FLOW THAT GOES
3:11:04PM THROUGH ME.
3:11:05PM BUT THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATORS DO REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE
3:11:07PM MAYOR.
3:11:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR ME, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I THINK THAT
3:11:10PM THE GOAL OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE GOAL
3:11:12PM OF THE CRA.
3:11:14PM THEY ARE SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.
3:11:16PM I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET US OFF THE SINGULAR GOAL OF REAL
3:11:21PM ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY IS FOCUSED AWAY
3:11:23PM FROM NOW.
3:11:24PM JUST SO THAT WE'RE -- WE DON'T WANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO
3:11:29PM INFLUENCE IT.
3:11:30PM IT'S GOT TO BE COORDINATED, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'D
3:11:34PM HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY.
3:11:36PM THE FEAR IN THE PAST IS THAT SOME REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT
3:11:38PM COMES IN, AND THE CITY REALLY WANTS TO LAND IT, SO THEY PUT
3:11:41PM THE SQUEEZE ON THE CRA TO SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO SUBSIDIZE
3:11:44PM THE DEAL AND THEN ALL THE CRA MONEY IS GONE AND WE DO AWAY
3:11:47PM WITH ALL THE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD.
3:11:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENT?
3:11:51PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:11:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:12:00PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:12:01PM ALL OPPOSED?
3:12:02PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:12:05PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THREE THINGS LEFT ON OUR SIDE OF THE
3:12:07PM WORKSHOP.
3:12:08PM I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.
3:12:11PM ACTUALLY, MS. ZELMAN WAS GOING TO GO FIRST.
3:12:14PM AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE WITHOUT MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
3:12:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I NEED TO HAVE ABOUT AN HOUR TO TAKE
3:12:22PM CARE OF SOMETHING BETWEEN THIS COUNCIL AND THE EVENING
3:12:25PM COUNCIL.
3:12:26PM I APOLOGIZE, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF EARLY.
3:12:30PM MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYBODY.
3:12:31PM >>JOHN BENNETT: DO WE NEED COPIES OF THIS?
3:12:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE COULD GET TO THE MEAT OF THE ACTION SO
3:12:41PM THAT -- 17 HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
3:12:48PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: 17 AND 5 WERE IDENTICAL.
3:12:53PM AND WE SKIPPED IT.
3:12:55PM HAVEN'T DONE 17 YET.
3:12:57PM BUT WE'RE NOW --
3:13:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 17 WAS PULLED.
3:13:02PM THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
3:13:06PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DIDN'T GIVE YOU MY REPORT.
3:13:07PM 5 AND 17 WAS A REPORT FROM ME ON FACADE GRANTS.
3:13:15PM BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NOW.
3:13:16PM WE'RE STILL ON THE WORKSHOP PART.
3:13:20PM I WANT TO STAY IN ORDER, IF THAT'S OKAY.
3:13:23PM THE REASON THAT I'M GOING FIRST IS BECAUSE WE WERE WRAPPING
3:13:29PM UP THE WORKSHOP WITH A DISCUSSION OF WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES
3:13:33PM ARE FOR THE CRAs AND AS WE DISCUSSED THEN, I HAD SOME
3:13:40PM CONCERN BECAUSE WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
3:13:43PM AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND JOB TRAINING.
3:13:47PM I SAID MY READ OF THE STATUTE AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
3:13:53PM OPINIONS AND PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE LEGISLATIVE
3:13:56PM CHANGES IN 2019, THAT YOU CANNOT USE TIF FUNDS FOR THOSE
3:14:03PM TYPES OF PROJECTS, FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING, JOB TRAINING.
3:14:07PM AND I AGREED TO COME BACK AND RESEARCH THAT BY DECEMBER.
3:14:10PM BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE THE ANSWER NOW.
3:14:15PM BECAUSE IT IMPACTS YOUR PRIORITIES, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND
3:14:17PM GIVE IT TO YOU.
3:14:18PM AS I SAID TO MR. DINGFELDER ON THE WAY OUT, I HOPE I'M
3:14:21PM WRONG.
3:14:22PM BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, I'M NOT.
3:14:24PM BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DID GO BACK AND DID CAREFUL
3:14:29PM RESEARCH ON THE STATUTE AND THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, THE
3:14:33PM ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS, AND I ALSO HAD A VERY INSIGHTFUL
3:14:36PM PHONE CONVERSATION WITH CLIFF SHEPHERD, WHO IS THE GENERAL
3:14:41PM COUNCIL FOR THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION.
3:14:43PM AGAIN, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE
3:14:46PM CONFERENCE, THEY ARE THE OVERALL STATE REDEVELOPMENT
3:14:50PM ASSOCIATION THAT EVEN IN THAT MIAMI-DADE GRAND JURY REPORT,
3:14:55PM THEY SAID THEY ARE THE ARBITERS OF THE BEST PRACTICES FOR
3:14:59PM CRAs IN THE STATE.
3:15:00PM CLIFF IS THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE FRA.
3:15:05PM HE'S ALSO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF MAITLAND, THE
3:15:08PM TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN OF PONCE INLET.
3:15:12PM LAND USE COUNCIL FOR SATELLITE BEACH, BUT ALSO SERVES AS CRA
3:15:17PM COUNSEL FOR NUMEROUS, SMALLER CITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF
3:15:20PM FLORIDA.
3:15:21PM I WALKED CLIFF THROUGH OUR QUESTION, AND HE SAID,
3:15:26PM UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, THAT I WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT TIF
3:15:29PM FUNDS CANNOT BE USED FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, JOB TRAINING
3:15:33PM AND OTHER SUCH ITEMS THAT ARE NOT TIED TO BRICKS AND MORTAR
3:15:37PM REDEVELOPMENT.
3:15:38PM HE IS AWARE THAT SOME CITIES SUCH AS CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG
3:15:44PM RIGHT OUT ON THEIR WEBSITE TALKS ABOUT USING TIF FUNDS AND
3:15:47PM CRA -- TIF FUNDS FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING AND JOB DEVELOPMENT.
3:15:53PM HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME
3:15:56PM PEOPLE THAT WILL ASK FOR -- THAT DON'T ASK FOR -- WHAT IS
3:16:01PM THE WORD, ASK FOR FORGIVENESS RATHER THAN APPROVAL, BUT HE
3:16:04PM SAID HE ADVISES ALL OF HIS CRAs TO AVOID, PARTICULARLY IN
3:16:10PM LIGHT OF THE ENHANCED ATTENTION THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE
3:16:13PM IS PAYING TO CRAs.
3:16:14PM YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEM REACT EVEN WORSE THAN THEY
3:16:20PM ALREADY HAVE REACTED BY TAKING AWAY YOUR POWERS EVEN MORE.
3:16:24PM AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT
3:16:27PM CRAs, WHICH, AGAIN, ARE A CREATION OF STATUTE, WERE NOT
3:16:32PM CREATED TO BE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES.
3:16:35PM THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THE PURPOSE OF
3:16:37PM REDEVELOPMENT OF AREAS THAT WERE SUFFERING FROM SLUM AND
3:16:42PM BLIGHT, AND I TOLD HIM, I SAID WE HAVE ONE PARTICULAR BOARD
3:16:47PM MEMBER WITH THE SENTIMENT OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE ALL
3:16:50PM THIS FOCUS ON REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
3:16:52PM AND HIS RESPONSE TO ME WAS, AND I QUOTE, THE PURPOSE OF A
3:16:55PM CRA IS REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
3:16:58PM AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT A CRA IS.
3:17:02PM YOUR POWERS ARE SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED IN SECTION 163.370
3:17:08PM WHICH IS ALL ABOUT ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, REHABILITATION
3:17:13PM OF PROPERTY, BUILDING OF STREETS AND PARKS.
3:17:17PM BUT ALL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT RELATED.
3:17:20PM AND THEN AGAIN, 163.387 PAREN 6, PAREN C, SPECIFICALLY
3:17:27PM ENUMERATES WHAT TIF FUNDS CAN BE SPENT ON.
3:17:30PM AGAIN, THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE
3:17:33PM SESSION WAS IN TWO PARTS OF THE STATUTE, INCLUDING WHAT I
3:17:36PM JUST QUOTED.
3:17:37PM THEY TOOK OUT LANGUAGE THAT SAID INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED
3:17:41PM TO, WHICH IS WHAT CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE
3:17:44PM RELIED ON TO DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WITH TIF FUNDS.
3:17:48PM I'M THE NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN AND I'M HAVING TO TALK WITH OUR
3:17:54PM CRA MANAGERS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY GOT TO START
3:17:57PM LOOKING CASE BY CASE AT WHAT TIF FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT ON,
3:18:01PM BUT AGAIN, THEY REALLY -- IT'S ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THEY CANNOT
3:18:05PM BE SPENT ON JOB TRAINING, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
3:18:10PM AND THEN ONE FINAL COMMENT HE MADE ABOUT THIS, AND SOMEONE
3:18:13PM BROUGHT IT UP DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS CONCEPT THAT CRA
3:18:19PM FUNDS, IF YOU DISSOLVE A CRA, THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY
3:18:23PM GET MORE MONEY IS REALLY A FALSE PREMISE, BECAUSE WHAT TIF
3:18:30PM FINANCING IS, IS TAKING THE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES THAT
3:18:35PM HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF HAVING A CRA AND STARTING TO DO
3:18:40PM REDEVELOPMENT, TAKING WHAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE GOTTEN TO
3:18:43PM THE COUNTY AND LETTING IT STAY IN THE CRA AREA FOR THAT
3:18:47PM 30-YEAR PERIOD, HE SAID THE WAY HE DESCRIBES IT IS THE
3:18:51PM CONCEPT IS BASICALLY YOU'RE TAKING COUNTY MONEY IN ORDER TO
3:18:55PM INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE CRA SO THAT THE COUNTY GETS
3:19:00PM A RETURN ON ITS INVESTMENT 30 YEARS LATER WHEN IT'S ABLE TO
3:19:04PM START COLLECTING THE FULL TAX DOLLARS AGAIN.
3:19:06PM THAT'S KIND OF HOW HE EXPLAINS TIF FINANCING TO HIS TIFS.
3:19:12PM AGAIN, HE SAYS, WITH ANOTHER POINT TO MAKE IS THAT WITH A
3:19:16PM CRA, THE MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED IN ONE AREA OF THE CITY IS
3:19:21PM BEING PUT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT PAID THOSE TAX
3:19:25PM DOLLARS.
3:19:25PM SO, AGAIN, I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU BEFORE YOU FINISH
3:19:32PM IDENTIFYING YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE CRAs AND ALSO AS WE'VE
3:19:36PM BEEN TELLING THE CRA MANAGERS, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO
3:19:39PM START TAKING A MUCH MORE CAREFUL APPROACH ON A CASE-BY-CASE
3:19:43PM BASIS AS TO HOW TIF MONIES ARE BEING SPENT.
3:19:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
3:19:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE ISSUE OF HOW TAXES ARE ALLOCATED,
3:20:08PM IT'S KEEPING -- WHAT THE GUY SAID IS A COMMON EXPLANATION
3:20:14PM THAT I HEAR, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE MONEY IS BEING
3:20:18PM KEPT IN A CERTAIN AREA, AND IT'S GROWING, MAYBE BECAUSE OF
3:20:24PM THE INVESTMENTS OR NOT, BUT THE MONEY IS GROWING IN THERE.
3:20:26PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHATEVER THE INCREASE IS, THAT MONEY
3:20:30PM SHOULD BE GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR BASIC
3:20:34PM SERVICES AND THE REST OF THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING THAT AREA
3:20:36PM FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING THAT THEY
3:20:39PM ARE PAYING ON THESE OTHER THINGS.
3:20:41PM I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
3:20:43PM TO THE POINT ABOUT THE COUNTY MONEY, I THINK THE COUNTY IS
3:20:46PM ACTUALLY RENEGOTIATED ON ONE OR TWO OF OURS TO REDUCE THEIR
3:20:51PM AMOUNT, BUT WE COULD SOLVE THAT THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL
3:20:54PM AGREEMENT AND GET THE COUNTY TO SAY, HEY, CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF
3:20:57PM MONEY WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN, WE COULDN'T BOND THEM, BUT WE
3:21:00PM COULD MAKE THAT INVESTMENT.
3:21:01PM ANYWAY, BUT THE BIGGER POINT IS THAT MY CONCERN ABOUT REAL
3:21:07PM ESTATE IS MORE ABOUT A BIG DEVELOPER, LIKE -- LET'S SAY A
3:21:12PM DEVELOPER COMES INTO EAST TAMPA AND WANTS TO SPEND A HUNDRED
3:21:16PM MILLION DOLLARS ON A BIG SHOPPING CENTER AND THEN WE PUT ALL
3:21:18PM THE CRA MONEY IN THAT DISTRICT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT OR LIKE
3:21:21PM COULD HAPPEN UP BY THE USF AREA.
3:21:24PM MY CONCERN IS MORE ABOUT FOCUSING ALL THE MONEY ON ONE BIG
3:21:29PM BET.
3:21:30PM WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH CENTRO YBOR AND THE OLD
3:21:33PM CHANNELSIDE, THE OLD SHOPS AT HARBOUR ISLAND.
3:21:36PM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY CRA MONEY PAID FOR ANY OF THAT.
3:21:38PM BUT WE SEE CITY MONEY OR COUNTY MONEY SPENT ON A DEVELOPMENT
3:21:42PM THAT FAILS.
3:21:43PM AND INSTEAD, I'D LIKE IT TO BE SPREAD OUT.
3:21:45PM PLUS, THOUGH, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, WHAT I MIGHT
3:21:50PM SUGGEST AS A NUANCE HERE AND YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH ME.
3:21:55PM I WOULDN'T CALL SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING AND ROADS REAL
3:21:58PM ESTATE.
3:21:59PM MAYBE IT'S BRICKS AND MORTAR OR SOME KIND OF PHYSICAL
3:22:02PM STRUCTURE, PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT, MAYBE WE CAN'T SPEND IT ON
3:22:07PM SOCIAL SERVICES, BUT I THINK EVEN SIDEWALKS AND ROADS AND
3:22:12PM LANDSCAPING ARE BETTER THAN SPENDING IT TO SUBSIDIZE A BIG
3:22:15PM DEVELOPER.
3:22:16PM IF YOU LOOK AT 163, WHAT IT SAYS IS ALLOWED, THERE'S A WHOLE
3:22:21PM LIST OF THINGS.
3:22:21PM AND WITHIN THAT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE CREATIVE, WHILE
3:22:24PM LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS, AND
3:22:27PM WE OUGHT TO DIVERSIFY OUR INVESTMENT INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN
3:22:30PM ONE OR TWO BIG BETS.
3:22:34PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST TO BE CLEAR, I DID USE THE TERM BRICKS
3:22:36PM AND MORTAR.
3:22:37PM YOU'RE CORRECT, THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY REFERS TO THINGS
3:22:40PM LIKE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARK, SO IT ISN'T JUST A
3:22:46PM BUILDING.
3:22:49PM >> ARE YOU COMPLETED?
3:22:50PM ARE YOU FINISHED?
3:22:52PM MICHELLE, ARE YOU NEXT.
3:22:58PM >> [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
3:23:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THINK WE'RE FINISHED.
3:23:03PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:23:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST IN REGARD TO THE FINANCIAL PART OF
3:23:07PM IT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING WE DISSOLVE CRAs, BUT IT'S AN
3:23:12PM INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
3:23:12PM BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS BECAUSE RIGHT
3:23:16PM NOW THE DOWNTOWN CRA I THINK IS GENERATING $15 MILLION OF
3:23:25PM TIF ANNUALLY, IS THAT APPROXIMATELY CORRECT, MICHELLE?
3:23:29PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXACT DOLLARS.
3:23:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN YOU FIND IT, LET ME KNOW.
3:23:34PM FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, IF WE DISSOLVED THAT TIF, THEN I AGREE
3:23:40PM WITH MR. CARLSON, I'M NOT AGREEING WITH IT, BUT I WOULD
3:23:43PM AGREE WITH YOU, IF WE DID, THEN I THINK THAT A GOOD BULK OF
3:23:47PM THAT MONEY THEORETICALLY WOULD GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL
3:23:50PM FUND.
3:23:54PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: DOWNTOWN FOR FY '20 IS ABOUT 15,072,000
3:23:58PM AND CHANGE.
3:24:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND, MS. ZELMAN,
3:24:03PM WHAT HIS POINT IS OR YOUR POINT IS ABOUT THE DISSOLUTION --
3:24:07PM THAT DISSOLUTION AND THE FACT THAT IT WOULDN'T GO BACK TO
3:24:10PM THE GENERAL FUND?
3:24:11PM WHAT AM I MISSING?
3:24:13PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: MORE WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY THAN DOES NOW.
3:24:16PM WITH TIF FINANCING, MONEY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO TO THE
3:24:20PM COUNTY GETS TO STAY IN THE CRA DISTRICT.
3:24:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
3:24:23PM SO THAT'S THE POINT, IT'S THAT COUNTY FACTOR.
3:24:25PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: RIGHT.
3:24:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
3:24:28PM I CAN ACCEPT THAT, ALTHOUGH I THINK IN DOWNTOWN THEY DID
3:24:32PM TWEAK IT WHEN THEY RENEWED IT.
3:24:34PM AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THAT TWEAK WAS.
3:24:37PM WHAT WAS THE TWEAK?
3:24:38PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THEY TWEAKED IT IN THE SENSE THAT THEY
3:24:40PM ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BUT AS
3:24:43PM A SIDE AGREEMENT, THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF
3:24:47PM DOLLARS UP FRONT TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
3:24:51PM IN DOWNTOWN, MOSTLY AIMED AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
3:24:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT HOW ABOUT WHEN THAT CONVENTION CENTER
3:24:56PM PROJECT IS OVER?
3:24:57PM IS THAT COMMITMENT STILL THERE?
3:25:00PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WELL, THEY ARE UP TO --
3:25:02PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY BASICALLY WITHDREW OUT OF OUR TOWN.
3:25:06PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: BUT THEY COMMITTED UP TO 50 MILLION TO
3:25:09PM HELP FOR ALL THOSE RENOVATIONS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
3:25:15PM AS OPPOSED TO WAITING THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS, THEY ARE
3:25:19PM COMMITTED UP FRONT TO FRONT LOAD IT FASTER.
3:25:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT ABOUT OVER?
3:25:24PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NO, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS, SOME OF
3:25:26PM THE QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THE MEETING ROOMS UPSTAIRS AND
3:25:29PM BUILDING OUT OVER THE RIVERWALK.
3:25:32PM THEY HAVE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED, I THINK IT'S UP TO 13 MILLION
3:25:36PM OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
3:25:37PM SO THEY ARE PUTTING IN A LOT OF MONEY TOWARDS THAT.
3:25:40PM I DIDN'T COME WITH ALL MY NOTES FROM ROB, BUT I HAD IT ALL
3:25:43PM WRITTEN DOWN ON THE PAPER.
3:25:44PM I WASN'T PREPARED ON THE DETAILS.
3:25:46PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
3:25:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
3:25:51PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: SO I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN
3:25:54PM CARLSON'S QUESTION.
3:25:56PM MICHELLE VAN LOAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
3:25:58PM WHEN THE CRAs INVEST IN DEVELOPMENTS, WE'RE NOT INVESTING
3:26:04PM ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
3:26:06PM SO DOWNTOWN, ALL THAT INVESTMENT IS IN THE INCREASED
3:26:11PM CAPACITY AND REPLACEMENT OF STORM AND WASTEWATER AND WATER
3:26:15PM CAPACITY LINES THAT WE WERE FACING ANYWAY PRIOR TO THAT
3:26:20PM DEVELOPMENT.
3:26:21PM BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WE SPED UP OUR INVESTMENT IN THE
3:26:24PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
3:26:24PM BUT OUR CRA DOLLARS ARE NOT, AND I CAN SAY THIS WITH 100%
3:26:28PM CERTAINTY, OUR CRA DOLLARS ARE NOT BEING SPENT ON THE
3:26:31PM PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
3:26:32PM IN EAST TAMPA, ANY OF YOU REMEMBER THE MIDLAND HOTEL AT
3:26:37PM 50th STREET?
3:26:38PM IT WAS DILAPIDATED, EMPTY, VACANT.
3:26:41PM IT WAS A HAVEN FOR DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION, AND WE FINALLY
3:26:46PM HAD A DEVELOPER THAT CAME IN AND TURNED IT INTO THE QUALITY
3:26:49PM INN AND SUITES.
3:26:49PM WE PUT IN $650,000 IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT.
3:26:52PM THE SIDEWALKS, WIDENING THE STREET, THEY DONATED LAND SO WE
3:26:57PM COULD MAKE A FULL DEDICATED STREET.
3:27:00PM ALL OF THESE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT WE SPEND ADJACENT TO
3:27:02PM PRIOR DEVELOPMENT TO HELP SORT OF SPUR AND CATALYZE THAT
3:27:06PM PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IS VOTED ON AT THE CAC LEVEL AND THEN
3:27:10PM COMES TO YOU.
3:27:11PM SO IF THERE WERE DECISIONS MADE IN THE PAST THAT YOU FEEL
3:27:14PM YOU WOULDN'T MAKE, ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS WILL COME TO YOU
3:27:17PM FOR THAT FINAL VOTE, AND THEY DO COME UP THROUGH THE
3:27:20PM COMMUNITY BEFORE WE BRING THEM HERE.
3:27:22PM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD.
3:27:25PM IT'S NOT SOME BACKROOM DEAL THAT WE MAKE WITH OUR CRA
3:27:28PM DOLLARS.
3:27:28PM EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH OUR CACs.
3:27:30PM EVERYTHING COMES BACK THROUGH YOU BEFORE WE CAN SPEND IT.
3:27:32PM I WANT TO FOLLOW UP.
3:27:36PM WE WANTED ANDREA TO GO FIRST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD
3:27:40PM SPEND ON FOR TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.
3:27:42PM WE STILL ONLY REALLY HAVE ONE PERSON'S INPUT ON THE 18
3:27:46PM POINTS.
3:27:47PM AFTER ANDREA SPOKE TO CLIFF, SHE HAS DRAFTED REVISED 18
3:27:53PM POINTS.
3:27:53PM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEND THAT OUT TO YOU, CIRCULATE IT FOR
3:27:57PM FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS THAT WE CAN THEN INCORPORATE.
3:28:00PM WE ALSO HAVE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION
3:28:03PM REGARDING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION.
3:28:05PM WE ARE GETTING BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
3:28:07PM BUT IT CHANGED DIRECTION AFTER ANDREA TALKED TO CLIFF.
3:28:10PM IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE PROCESS?
3:28:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES EVERYBODY CONCUR WITH THAT?
3:28:18PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: LASTLY, AT THE WORKSHOP, I HAD SENT YOU
3:28:22PM ALL AFTER THAT WORKSHOP OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP, THE
3:28:25PM CHART TO HELP PRIORITIZE.
3:28:26PM I'VE ONLY RECEIVED TWO OUT OF SEVEN FEEDBACK.
3:28:29PM I BELIEVE YOU ALL NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
3:28:32PM BUT GIVEN ANDREA'S, AGAIN, COMMENTS ABOUT TIF SPENDING, WE
3:28:36PM ARE GOING TO SLIGHTLY AMEND THAT TO GRAY OUT THOSE ITEMS.
3:28:41PM SO I DON'T WANT TO REFLECT THAT THEY WEREN'T IN THE CRPs
3:28:44PM BUT WE ARE GOING TO GRAY OUT THE ITEMS THAT WE FEEL NO
3:28:47PM LONGER SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PRIORITIZATION.
3:28:49PM I WILL RESEND THAT OUT.
3:28:51PM I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO CREATE YOUR OWN
3:28:54PM DEADLINE FOR GETTING THOSE PRIORITIES BACK TO US?
3:28:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE NEXT CRA MEETING.
3:29:02PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I KNOW WE'RE GOING INTO THE HOLIDAY
3:29:04PM SEASON, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
3:29:06PM THE BIGGEST -- YOUR SETTING A STRATEGIC PLAN AND GUIDANCE
3:29:13PM FOR THE CRAs IS GOING TO HAVE A BIG IMPACT AS WE GO INTO
3:29:16PM OUR BUDGETING SESSIONS STARTING IN THE SPRING, WHEN WE START
3:29:19PM OUR PROCESS.
3:29:19PM SO THAT'S SORT OF WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
3:29:23PM DOCUMENT THAT PROVIDES THAT KIND OF GUIDANCE TO THE CACs
3:29:26PM AND THE INDIVIDUAL CRA DISTRICTS.
3:29:27PM SO THAT'S WHEN WE'RE SORT OF LOOKING.
3:29:30PM IF YOU FEEL LIKE MAYBE YOUR MINDS ARE IN OTHER PLACES AND
3:29:34PM YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS BACK UP AND HAVE IT DUE BY LATE
3:29:37PM DECEMBER AND WE GET YOU BACK SOMETHING IN JANUARY, IF YOU
3:29:39PM THINK YOU CAN GET IT DONE FOR DECEMBER, BUT THAT'S AT YOUR
3:29:42PM DISCRETION.
3:29:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOARD MEMBERS, THE 9th OF DECEMBER, THE
3:29:49PM MONDAY BEFORE THE NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING, WOULD THAT GIVE US
3:29:52PM ENOUGH TIME?
3:29:58PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE'LL RESEND OUT THE CHART THEN.
3:30:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:30:01PM [AUDIO DROP]
3:30:05PM [ENCODER DROP]
3:30:28PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- MY DOG ATE MINE.
3:30:30PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: IT MUST BE A BROTHER TO MY DOG.
3:30:33PM LASTLY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING
3:30:38PM WORKSHOP PART?
3:30:38PM THE LAST THING THAT CHIEF BENNETT WANTED TO MENTION, I WAS
3:30:43PM GOING TO ASK ABOUT, I WAS NOT AWARE OF COUNCILMAN GUDES'
3:30:48PM MOTION ABOUT THE TASK FORCE AND COMMUNITY INPUT ON THE POND,
3:30:53PM SO I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT GIVEN AGAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO
3:30:56PM HOLIDAYS, I DON'T WANT TO RISK NOT HAVING PARTICIPATION BY
3:31:00PM THE COMMUNITY OR MEMBERS BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS.
3:31:02PM WE WOULD LIKE TO REPORT BACK AT THE FEBRUARY CRA BOARD
3:31:04PM MEETING.
3:31:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:31:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE FINE.
3:31:08PM I WANT TO MAKE IT OUT THERE, THERE'S NO SLIGHT TO THE
3:31:10PM MANAGER.
3:31:11PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
3:31:13PM JUST RIGHT NOW THE MANAGER HAS SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS ON HIS
3:31:17PM PLATE AND I WANT TO DESIGNATE A PERSON TO MOVE WITH THIS
3:31:20PM SITUATION HERE.
3:31:21PM I THINK WE NEED TO RUN WITH IT.
3:31:22PM I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIT PART OF EAST TAMPA.
3:31:28PM THAT'S I DIDN'T MADE THE MOTION.
3:31:29PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EXTENDING THE TIME ON THAT.
3:31:31PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THANK YOU.
3:31:32PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
3:31:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:31:35PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
3:31:36PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:31:40PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:31:43PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE MOVE ON, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE
3:31:45PM WE MOVE ON, DOES THE CLERK NEED A MOTION TO AMEND GUDES' --
3:31:53PM >>THE CLERK: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE
3:31:56PM GOOD FOR THE AGENDA, YES, THANK YOU.
3:31:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE IT 90 DAYS,
3:32:01PM FEBRUARY.
3:32:01PM TO FEBRUARY.
3:32:03PM TO FEBRUARY CRA.
3:32:04PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
3:32:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:32:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:32:09PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:32:11PM ALL OPPOSED?
3:32:11PM MOTION PASSES.
3:32:12PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
3:32:16PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ITEMS 5 AND 17 ARE ONE AND THE SAME.
3:32:19PM AGAIN, THIS WAS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S MOTION AND NOW HE'S NOT
3:32:23PM HERE AGAIN.
3:32:24PM DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT OFF OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A BRIEF
3:32:27PM REPORT?
3:32:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S PUT IT OFF.
3:32:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RESCHEDULE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
3:32:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:32:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:32:35PM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
3:32:36PM ALL OPPOSED.
3:32:37PM ALL RIGHT.
3:32:41PM INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.
3:32:43PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:32:52PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOTHING TODAY.
3:32:52PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
3:32:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
3:32:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOTHING, SIR.
3:32:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:32:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A SUGGESTION, WE TAKE A NAP BEFORE
3:33:00PM THE 5:00 MEETING.
3:33:02PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:33:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
3:33:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: PLEASE HUMOR ME FOR A SECOND.
3:33:11PM WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS HERE ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO TAKE
3:33:14PM FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO TAKE FEEDBACK
3:33:16PM FROM THE CAC, AT THE SAME TIME WHERE WE SIT, WE SEE A CRISIS
3:33:20PM OF POVERTY AND WE SEE A CRISIS OF HOUSING.
3:33:23PM WE HEARD THIS MORNING THERE'S AT LEAST A NEED FOR 20,000
3:33:26PM MORE UNITS OF HOUSING AND MAYBE AS MANY AS 50,000 AND THE
3:33:29PM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE DON'T
3:33:32PM HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT WE NEED.
3:33:37PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO
3:33:42PM HYPOTHETICALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO IF WE TOOK 30% OF
3:33:49PM EACH OF THE CRA'S FUNDING AND APPLIED IT TO AFFORDABLE
3:33:54PM HOUSING SOLUTIONS.
3:33:55PM NOT COMMITTING TO DOING THAT, BUT JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT WE
3:33:58PM COULD DO IF WE DID THAT.
3:34:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ZELMAN, DO WE ACTUALLY NEED A MOTION FOR
3:34:04PM THAT OR COULD COUNCILMAN CARLSON JUST ASK FOR A STAFF REPORT
3:34:08PM ON THAT?
3:34:08PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: USUALLY YOU ASK FOR STAFF REPORTS BY
3:34:10PM MOTION.
3:34:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
3:34:12PM GO AHEAD.
3:34:12PM SECOND ON THAT?
3:34:13PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:34:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:34:16PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:34:18PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:34:19PM THAT'S IT?
3:34:22PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE THE GAVEL.
3:34:25PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
3:34:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOARD MEMBERS.
3:34:28PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER.
3:34:29PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
3:34:29PM JUST KIDDING.
3:34:30PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:34:31PM >> DON'T PUT A DENT IN THE TABLE.
3:34:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID PUT A BIG DENT IN HERE TODAY.
3:34:35PM I'LL PAY FOR IT.
3:34:37PM AS CHAIR, I CAN SET THE AGENDA.
3:34:41PM HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO THAT ARE NOT HERE,
3:34:46PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
3:34:51PM PUBLIC COMMENTS BE PUT IN OR HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS SPOKEN
3:34:56PM RIGHT AFTER OUR INVOCATION, PLEDGE, AND ROLL CALL.
3:35:00PM >> SECOND.
3:35:01PM >> SECOND.
3:35:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON.
3:35:02PM AND THAT ALL OTHER AGENDA ITEMS AND/OR STAFF REPORTS, TIME
3:35:12PM SENSITIVE, TIME DEFINITE STARTING AT 10:00.
3:35:17PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
3:35:18PM IN OUR REGULAR RULES, DON'T WE SPEAK TO 30 MINUTES OF PUBLIC
3:35:25PM COMMENT?
3:35:25PM >> YES.
3:35:26PM >> YES.
3:35:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOWEVER, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, HOWEVER, IF
3:35:33PM OUR PUBLIC COMMENT IS DONE BEFORE THEN, I FEEL THAT WE COULD
3:35:37PM GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUR STAFF REPORTS OR OUR AGENDA ITEMS.
3:35:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT'S BETTER TO ANTICIPATE THAT IT
3:35:43PM WOULD GO LONGER, THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO RUSH.
3:35:47PM BUT THEN STAFF, IF STAFF COMES IN AT 9, THEN THERE'S THIS
3:35:51PM TENSION GOING ON.
3:35:52PM IT'S MUCH BETTER TO HAVE STAFF SAY, TELL THEM COME IN AT
3:35:56PM 10:00 AND WE'LL FOR SURE BE ABLE TO TAKE YOU BECAUSE WE'LL
3:35:59PM HAVE PLENTY OF TIME.
3:36:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I LIKE THE CONCEPT.
3:36:01PM I'M JUST SAYING -- LET'S SAY THERE'S 15 PEOPLE AND TIMES
3:36:06PM THREE IS AT LEAST 45 MINUTES.
3:36:08PM ARE WE GOING TO DO 45 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT AT THE
3:36:11PM BEGINNING?
3:36:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T SEE WHY NOT.
3:36:14PM THEN THAT WAY, AGAIN, AN AGENDA ITEM COULD COME UP IF THE
3:36:17PM STAFF IS NOT HERE.
3:36:18PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
3:36:19PM I'M FINE WITH THAT.
3:36:20PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ONLY THING I WOULD NOTE IS IF YOU DO PUT,
3:36:23PM FOR EXAMPLE, STAFF REPORTS AT A TIME CERTAIN OF 10:00, YOU
3:36:25PM CAN'T START THEM ANY EARLIER THAN 10:00.
3:36:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNDERSTOOD, BUT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER
3:36:31PM AGENDA ITEM.
3:36:32PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE COULD
3:36:35PM DO.
3:36:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YEAH, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF
3:36:38PM WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTEAD OF MAKING THE CITIZENS THAT
3:36:41PM COME DOWN HERE EACH AND EVERY TIME, EACH AND EVERY THURSDAY
3:36:44PM TO SPEAK THEIR PIECE -- DEFINITIVE WORD THERE IS PIECE --
3:36:53PM THAT THEY ARE NOT HAVING TO SIT, AND THAT WAY WE CAN HEAR
3:36:55PM THEIR VOICES EARLIER ON.
3:36:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
3:37:00PM WHAT ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION?
3:37:01PM THEY KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT PARKING TICKETS.
3:37:01PM WE DON'T HAVE PARKING PASSES OR SOMETHING?
3:37:03PM WHAT IF THEY PARK AT FORT BROOKE?
3:37:05PM IS THERE ANY DIRECTION ON THAT?
3:37:06PM DO YOU ALL KNOW?
3:37:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO TOUCH THAT ONE
3:37:10PM RIGHT NOW, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:37:15PM I THINK THAT MIGHT MAKE THE CITY GO BROKE IF WE HAVE THE
3:37:19PM WHOLE PLACE FULL AND EVERYBODY ASKS FOR A PARKING PASS.
3:37:22PM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION --
3:37:24PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
3:37:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, WHAT?
3:37:32PM YOU WANT IT BACK.
3:37:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, NO.
3:37:34PM MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
3:37:36PM >>THE CLERK: WHO WAS THE SECOND, SIR?
3:37:37PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION MADE AND SECONDED BY MR. CARLSON,
3:37:41PM MOTION MADE BY MR. CITRO.
3:37:44PM ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
3:37:44PM ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
3:37:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:37:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:37:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:37:50PM SECONDED.
3:37:50PM GUIDO MADE THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:37:56PM MR. GUDES SECONDED IT.
3:37:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OH, MOTION PASSES.
3:37:58PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ON THE FIRST
3:38:00PM ONE.
3:38:00PM MR. GUIDO MADE THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:38:07PM MR. ORLANDO MADE THE SECOND.
3:38:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:38:12PM THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
3:38:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:38:17PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL WHAT TIME?
3:38:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 5:00.
3:38:21PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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