TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2019
5:00 P.M. SESSION
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05:02:54 >> [ ROLL CALL IN PROGRESS ]
05:02:55 [ MUSIC ]
05:02:55 >> MANISCALCO?
05:02:56 >> HERE.
05:02:57 >> CITRO?
05:02:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:02:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:03:00 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:03:01 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:03:01 THANK YOU, SIR.
05:03:02 WE BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:03:03 I KNOW BEFORE, MR. SHELBY, WE HAD SOME ADMINISTRATIVE
05:03:07 ISSUES.
05:03:08 WHAT WERE THEY?
05:03:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS A WALK-ON REQUEST.
05:03:10 YOU RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM.
05:03:11 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY VASKE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY
05:03:15 QUESTIONS.
05:03:15 THAT HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE CLERK, IS THAT CORRECT?
05:03:21 THE WALK-ON?
05:03:22 >>THE CLERK: NOT THAT I'M AWARE.
05:03:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE RESOLUTION HAS NOT BEEN FILED, TO
05:03:26 YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
05:03:27 >>THE CLERK: IT'S GOING TO BE WALKED ON, AND WE WILL GET
05:03:30 IT WHEN IT'S WALKED ON.
05:03:36 >> AS WE SPEAK.
05:03:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS SOMETHING, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS
05:03:40 MINISTERIAL.
05:03:40 IT IS A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON FUTURE
05:03:43 DATES.
05:03:45 IT REALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT FOR THE
05:03:48 PURPOSE OF COMPLYING WITH FLORIDA LAW, DOTTING ALL OUR
05:03:51 Is, ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TO IT.
05:03:55 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
05:03:55 WE'LL TAKE UP THIS ITEM.
05:03:57 ANYBODY HERE TO BRIEF US ON THIS WALK-ON?
05:04:00 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:04:00 >>BILL CARLSON: SO MY FIRM HAS A CLIENT THAT'S AFFILIATED
05:04:04 WITH THIS.
05:04:05 SHOULD I VOTE ON THIS OR NOT?
05:04:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WHAT YOU'RE
05:04:09 ACTING ON IS PURELY MINISTERIAL, AND IT WOULD TRIGGER, IN
05:04:15 MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, A CONFLICT.
05:04:17 OF COURSE, YOU'LL HAVE TO REEXAMINE IT WHEN IT ACTUALLY
05:04:20 DOES COME BACK.
05:04:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I DECIDE NOT TO VOTE FOR IT, OR DO I
05:04:24 HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT?
05:04:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS, WHILE I CAN ADVISE YOU
05:04:26 THAT IT BEING MINISTERIAL, IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION
05:04:31 THAT UNDER 286, YOU DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE UNLESS
05:04:34 THERE IS A DEFINED CONFLICT.
05:04:36 IF YOU WISH TO DECLARE WHAT YOUR CONFLICT IS FOR THE
05:04:43 BENEFIT OF --
05:04:44 >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE NOT WORKING ON THIS ISSUE, BUT WE
05:04:46 HAVE A CLIENT RELATED TO IT.
05:04:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, NOT KNOWING ALL THE FACTS, THE
05:04:50 QUESTION IS, IF YOU WISH TO ABSTAIN AND YOU BELIEVE THAT
05:04:52 IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THAT BASIS, YOU CAN
05:04:55 ANNOUNCE YOUR CONFLICT AND I'LL PREPARE THE DOCUMENT FOR
05:04:58 LATER.
05:04:58 OR IF YOU WISH, YOU CAN VOTE BECAUSE, IN MY OPINION, THIS
05:05:02 IS A MINISTERIAL ISSUE.
05:05:08 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
05:05:09 I'LL JUST STEP OUT THEN.
05:05:10 >>LUIS VIERA: BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.
05:05:12 THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
05:05:13 ANYONE HERE FOR THIS WALK-ON ITEM?
05:05:17 IS ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS WALK-ON ITEM?
05:05:21 OKAY.
05:05:23 I THINK ONE IS AT 6.
05:05:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THE ONE AT 6:00?
05:05:31 IS THERE A SECOND ONE AT 6:00?
05:05:38 >> [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
05:05:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THIS IS IT.
05:05:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
05:05:47 >>LUIS VIERA: I MAY BE INCORRECT.
05:05:49 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:51 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:05:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:05:53 ANY OPPOSED?
05:05:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CLERK.
05:05:57 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
05:06:01 THANK YOU.
05:06:02 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
05:06:03 THANK YOU, SIR.
05:06:03 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:06:18 >> GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.
05:06:20 DIEGO GUERRA, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:06:22 THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO UPDATE THE
05:06:23 SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:06:25 THIS IS A ROUTINE ANNUAL UPDATE THAT IS REQUIRED BY
05:06:28 CHAPTER 163 OF FLORIDA STATUTE.
05:06:30 CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES A SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS, A SUBSET OF
05:06:38 THE
05:06:39 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WHICH ADDRESSES THE LEVEL OF
05:06:42 SERVICE ADOPTED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BE UPDATED
05:06:44 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
05:06:46 THE UPDATE WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING SCHEDULE OF
05:06:48 PROJECTS, WHICH IS THE SCHEDULE LISTED IN YOUR PACKETS.
05:06:50 CITY STAFF IDENTIFIED PROJECTS IN THE C.I.P. THAT AFFECT
05:06:54 LEVEL OF SERVICE.
05:06:55 THESE ITEMS ARE WHAT MAKE UP THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS
05:06:57 WHICH ARE THEN REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:07:00 THE UPDATE IS ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE, WHICH IS
05:07:03 PERMITTED UNDER CHAPTER 163.
05:07:05 ADDITIONALLY, THE PLAN OF OTHER AGENCIES ARE ADOPTED BY
05:07:09 REFERENCE INTO THE SCHEDULE THROUGH AN EXISTING POLICY IN
05:07:11 THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION.
05:07:13 OF NOTE, THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL ADOPT ITS FIVE-YEAR WORK
05:07:16 PLAN ON NOVEMBER 19.
05:07:18 UPON SECOND READING AND FINAL ORDINANCE ADOPTION, THE
05:07:20 WORK PLAN WILL BE INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE.
05:07:22 THERE ARE FOUR PROGRAM AREAS INCLUDED IN THE SCHEDULE.
05:07:32 THEY ARE STORMWATER, WATER, WASTEWATER, AND
05:07:34 TRANSPORTATION AND CONSIST OF A TOTAL OF 87 PROJECTS THAT
05:07:39 ADDRESS LEVEL OF SERVICE.
05:07:40 THE TOTAL FIVE-YEAR FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THESE PROJECTS IS
05:07:43 APPROXIMATELY $384.83 MILLION.
05:07:47 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF EXAMINED THE SCHEDULE WITH
05:07:55 RESPECT TO THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE
05:07:58 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:07:59 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT POLICY 1.3.2 DICTATES THAT FUNDING
05:08:04 SHOULD FIRST BE EXPENDED ON PROJECTS THAT ELIMINATE
05:08:06 DEFICIENCIES.
05:08:07 SECOND, REPLACE NEEDED FACILITIES AND THIRD, TO PROVIDE
05:08:11 FURTHER FUTURE GROWTH, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY
05:08:14 SCHEDULE ALLOCATING APPROXIMATELY 87% OF THE SCHEDULE
05:08:17 FUNDING TOWARD PROJECTS THAT ELIMINATE OR REPLACE
05:08:20 DEFICIENCIES.
05:08:21 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF ALSO EXAMINED INDIVIDUAL
05:08:27 SCHEDULE PROJECTS AND THEIR CONSISTENCY WITH THE GOALS,
05:08:30 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE VARIOUS COMPREHENSIVE
05:08:32 PLAN SECTIONS AFFECTING PUBLIC FACILITIES.
05:08:35 THESE INCLUDE POTABLE WATER, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER, AND
05:08:40 MOBILITY.
05:08:41 OVERALL, THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WERE CONSISTENT WITH
05:08:43 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DIRECTION AND MANY OF THE PROJECTS,
05:08:46 SUCH AS THOSE AT THE H.F. CURREN WASTEWATER FACILITY,
05:08:51 SPECIFICALLY FURTHERED INDIVIDUAL OBJECTIVES AND
05:08:53 POLICIES.
05:08:54 AT ITS 9th SEPTEMBER 2019 PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING
05:09:02 COMMISSION FOUND THE PROPOSED FY '20 THROUGH FY '24
05:09:06 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS
05:09:08 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE
05:09:12 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT
05:09:15 RESOLUTION IS ALSO PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKETS.
05:09:19 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:09:22 MYSELF AND CITY STAFF ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:09:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:09:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:09:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:09:30 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
05:09:41 >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
05:09:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HEY, BRAD.
05:09:44 ON PAGES 7 AND 8 OF I GUESS IT'S SORT OF A SUMMARY,
05:09:51 SPECIFICALLY ON PAGE 7.
05:09:54 IT HAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
05:09:58 AND JUST SORT OF JUMPS -- A COUPLE OF THINGS JUMP OUT AT
05:10:02 ME AND THIS IS WHERE MY QUESTIONS COME FROM.
05:10:04 TYPICALLY, LET'S SEE, FY '20, 95 MILLION, FY '21, 108.
05:10:10 THE NEXT ONE 79 MILLION, THEN 91 MILLION.
05:10:13 THEN DROPS TO 53 MILLION.
05:10:14 SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
05:10:17 IF WE'RE ADDING IN THAT NEXT YEAR, WHY DOES IT DROP SO
05:10:20 SIGNIFICANTLY, ALMOST IN HALF OF WHERE IT'S AT IN 2020,
05:10:25 NUMBER ONE.
05:10:25 NUMBER TWO IS, DID THESE NUMBERS INCLUDE THE NEW FUNDING
05:10:30 SOURCES IN TERMS OF PIPES, THE PIPES AS A FUNDING SOURCE?
05:10:35 I ASSUME IT INCLUDES THE STORMWATER FUNDING SOURCE FROM
05:10:39 SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
05:10:41 >>BRAD BAIRD: IT DOES.
05:10:42 I'LL ANSWER THE SECOND ONE FIRST.
05:10:44 IT DOES INCLUDE THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT
05:10:48 PROGRAM.
05:10:49 IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT IS INCLUDED IN ALL FOR
05:10:54 TRANSPORTATION OR IN PIPES.
05:10:56 SO THOSE --
05:10:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WAS ALL FOR
05:11:01 TRANSPORTATION.
05:11:01 >>BRAD BAIRD: ASSUMING ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION GOES
05:11:03 THROUGH, THEN THOSE PROJECTS AND THE PIPES PROJECTS WOULD
05:11:06 BE ADDED NEXT YEAR.
05:11:08 AND IF YOU RECALL ON THE GRAPH, WHEN WE GAVE THE PIPES
05:11:14 PRESENTATION, THAT WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THAT PROGRAM,
05:11:20 WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY WITH THE CAPITAL.
05:11:22 SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT DECLINE HERE IN 2024.
05:11:28 THAT WAS ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE RAN OUT OF MONEY, IF YOU
05:11:30 REMEMBER THAT GRAPH I SHOWED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 5th.
05:11:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S NO URGENCY TO PUT THAT PIPES
05:11:38 MONEY INTO THIS C.I.P.
05:11:42 WE'LL JUST GET TO IT NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU WORK OUT THE
05:11:46 PROGRAM?
05:11:46 >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:11:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:11:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
05:11:51 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:11:51 OKAY.
05:11:53 NOTHING ELSE, SIR?
05:11:57 >> NO, SIR.
05:11:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
05:11:59 OKAY, BEFORE COUNCIL MOVES ON THIS, IS THERE ANYONE FOR
05:12:02 PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1?
05:12:04 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
05:12:07 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:12:09 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:12:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:12:11 ANY OPPOSED.
05:12:12 WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS?
05:12:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:12:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
05:12:17 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
05:12:20 THE IMAGINE 2020 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CAPITAL
05:12:23 IMPROVEMENTS SECTION, BY REPLACING THE CAPITAL
05:12:25 IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITH THE CAPITAL
05:12:27 IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020
05:12:29 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2024; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
05:12:32 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
05:12:34 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:12:37 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:12:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:12:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:12:42 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT
05:12:44 AT VOTE.
05:12:45 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON DECEMBER 5th AT
05:12:48 9:30 A.M.
05:12:49 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
05:12:49 WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 6 P.M.
05:12:52 ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL?
05:12:53 THERE BEING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 48 MORE MINUTES.
05:12:56 THANK YOU.
05:12:57 [RECESS]
05:02:16 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
05:02:18 THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2019
05:38:38 6:00 P.M.
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06:00:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
06:00:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
06:00:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
06:00:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
06:00:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
06:00:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
06:01:00 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
06:01:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM HERE.
06:01:04 THIS IS THE ULTIMATE MEDICAL EXAMINING PROJECT.
06:01:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE TOOK CARE OF THAT.
06:01:09 THAT WAS THE 5:00 ITEM.
06:01:11 WE MOVED IT UP.
06:01:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE?
06:01:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE OTHER ONE --
06:01:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE CAN GO RATE TO THE AGENDA.
06:01:22 ALL RIGHT.
06:01:23 WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 2 HERE, A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
06:01:26 WE HAVE A LETTER.
06:01:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, BEFORE WE BEGIN, IF YOU COULD
06:01:31 MAKE A MOTION OR ACCEPT A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC
06:01:34 HEARINGS, PLEASE.
06:01:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
06:01:39 WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
06:01:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:01:42 ALL RIGHT.
06:01:42 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND BY
06:01:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:01:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:01:48 ALL RIGHT.
06:01:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMAINDER UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO
06:01:51 IT NOW BUT BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR PUSH HEARINGS YOU WANT
06:01:53 TO SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES.
06:01:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEMS
06:01:58 2 THROUGH 12, PLEASE STAND UP IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN
06:02:00 IN, AND BE SWORN IN.
06:02:02 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
06:02:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 2.
06:02:12 TAKE IT AWAY.
06:02:13 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
06:02:16 COORDINATION.
06:02:19 IF WE CAN DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING OF THE AGENDA.
06:02:22 ON ITEM NUMBER 2, 19-62, THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED FOR A
06:02:28 CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW -- MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.
06:02:34 (MICROPHONE TURNED ON)
06:02:36 REZ 19-62.
06:02:37 THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY
06:02:40 30th EVENING HEARING TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK
06:02:43 WITH STAFF AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON THEIR REQUIRED
06:02:46 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
06:02:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE TAKE THE MOTION OR TAKE PUBLIC
06:02:52 COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE?
06:02:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, COULD YOU TAKE THE PUBLIC
06:02:55 COMMENT.
06:02:56 AND THERE IS A JUST CONTINUANCE BUT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE
06:02:59 IT'S A TECHNICAL MATTER, PUBLIC COMMENT --
06:03:05 >>> DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON JUST THE CONTINUANCE FOR
06:03:07 ITEM NUMBER 2?
06:03:08 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT AND
06:03:13 WE CONCUR WITH THE REQUEST TO A JANUARY 30 CONTINUANCE.
06:03:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:03:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S MY MOTION.
06:03:21 MR. MICHELINI, I NOTICED THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY AUGUST
06:03:25 8th, AND NOW IT'S NOVEMBER, AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO
06:03:29 JANUARY.
06:03:30 WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT NOTICE?
06:03:31 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THERE'S NO FURTHER NOTICE REQUIRED.
06:03:35 WE DID NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
06:03:39 THESE ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO WORKS OUT
06:03:41 REGARDING A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT.
06:03:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK OUT OF FAIRNESS I AM NOT GOING
06:03:47 TO ASK YOU TO MAIL BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER REPOSTING THE
06:03:50 SIGN?
06:03:51 >>STEVE MICHELINI: SURE.
06:03:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY?
06:03:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
06:03:56 NO?
06:03:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
06:03:59 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE'LL AGREE.
06:04:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE] I DON'T THINK IT WOULD
06:04:06 BE A MOTION OF COUNCIL.
06:04:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL WITHDRAW THAT PORTION FROM MY
06:04:11 MOTION BUT AS A COURTESY, YOU WILL DO THAT?
06:04:13 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'LL TELL YOU, IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF
06:04:15 WE JUST NOTIFY THE AGENCIES AND THE REGISTERED AGENTS
06:04:21 FROM THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
06:04:23 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS WHATSOEVER.
06:04:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
06:04:28 I JUST THOUGHT AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM TO POST IT, POST THE
06:04:32 NEW SIGN.
06:04:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S FINE.
06:04:35 WE'LL POST THE SIGN.
06:04:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:04:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN HAVE AS PART OF THE MOTION IF
06:04:39 YOU COULD STATE FOR THE RECORD THE DATE AND THE TIME OF
06:04:42 THE HEARING, PLEASE.
06:04:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JANUARY 30th.
06:04:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 2020 AT 6:00 P.M.
06:04:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:04:56 [OFF MICROPHONE] SECONDED -- MOTION PASSES.
06:05:00 ALL RIGHT.
06:05:00 ARE THE NEXT ITEM UP FOR HOUSEKEEPING IS I BELIEVE NUMBER
06:05:03 4.
06:05:04 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REZ-19-39.
06:05:07 THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THAT APPLICATION.
06:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:05:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 4.
06:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:05:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:05:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:05:18 ALL RIGHT.
06:05:19 I THINK THAT'S IT?
06:05:20 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-19-66, HEARD AND
06:05:27 THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED APPLICANT -- IT WAS CONTINUED
06:05:30 TO REDESIGN IS THE SITE.
06:05:31 THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A REDESIGNED SITE PLAN BUT IT'S
06:05:35 STILL UNDER STAFF REVIEW.
06:05:37 SO WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TILL THE JANUARY
06:05:40 16th HEARING.
06:05:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION INFORM THAT?
06:05:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO JANUARY 16, 2020 AT 6:00 IN
06:05:46 THE EVENING.
06:05:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:05:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
06:05:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST CURIOSITY, COULD YOU ASK --
06:05:55 >>> IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
06:05:58 5?
06:05:59 AND THIS IS JUST THE CONTINUANCE.
06:06:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, COME UP.
06:06:03 >>STEVE MICHELINI: MY CLIENTS WERE OPPOSED TO THIS
06:06:07 REZONING AND WE WILL BE KEEPING TRACK OF THIS AS WELL.
06:06:11 AND THE CONTINUANCE IS FINE.
06:06:12 WE HAVE NO OBJECTION.
06:06:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO
06:06:16 SPEAK?
06:06:16 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HEARD TONIGHT.
06:06:18 IT'S GOING TO BE HEARD AT A FUTURE DATE.
06:06:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:06:21 THANK YOU.
06:06:21 THIS ITEM, BECAUSE OF WORKING WITH STAFF, THIS ITEM NEEDS
06:06:26 TO BE CONTINUED, AND IT IS BEING CONTINUED PER MOTION OF
06:06:30 COUNCIL TO JANUARY 16th OF 2020, NEXT YEAR, NEXT
06:06:34 JANUARY 16thALITY 6:00 P.M.
06:06:36 THERE WILL BE NO OTHER NOTICE TO BE SENT OUT REGARDING
06:06:39 THIS SO YOU NEED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT DATE IF YOU WISH TO
06:06:42 ATTEND THE MEETING.
06:06:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM IF
06:06:47 YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
06:06:48 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
06:06:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS ON 110 AND 112 SOUTH WILLOW
06:06:57 AVENUE FROM REPRESENTATIVE 24 TO PD.
06:07:01 ITEM NUMBER 5.
06:07:03 >> ITEM NUMBER 3 IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ONE.
06:07:11 SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
06:07:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT WE
06:07:20 CONTINUE BE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.
06:07:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
06:07:23 MIRANDA.
06:07:24 SECOND --
06:07:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER ONE,
06:07:29 ONE ON THE 16th, ONE ON THE 24th OF JANUARY 2020.
06:07:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
06:07:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:07:38 OPPOSED?
06:07:38 OKAY.
06:07:39 ALL RIGHT.
06:07:40 IS THAT THAT?
06:07:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
06:07:42 WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
06:07:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 3.
06:07:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REZ 1963, 910 SOUTH
06:07:54 STERLING AVENUE.
06:07:55 THIS IS A CONTINUED HEARING FROM RS-75 TO PD.
06:07:58 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:08:04 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
06:08:07 DISTRICT WITHIN THE GOLF VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD, D EVACUATION
06:08:12 ZONE.
06:08:12 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS THE CLIFTON
06:08:17 TENNIS CENTER ABOUT HALF MILE TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT
06:08:20 SITE, AND HART ROUTE 19 AND 36 SERVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:08:24 I HAVE AN AERIAL ON THE OVERHEAD.
06:08:27 IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF -- THIS IS SOUTH DALE MABRY RIGHT
06:08:31 HERE. THIS IS SOUTH STERLING AVENUE WHICH IS WHERE THE
06:08:34 SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED.
06:08:36 THIS IS SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY WHICH YOU MIGHT BE
06:08:40 FAMILIAR WITH.
06:08:40 AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GENERALLY SINGLE-FAMILY
06:08:44 DETACHED.
06:08:45 AND A LOWER DENSITY THAN RESIDENTIAL 6.
06:08:48 THAT IS THE YELLOW COLOR.
06:08:49 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS THE PINK.
06:08:52 THAT'S PRESENT ALONG SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, ONE OF OUR
06:08:56 COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.
06:08:57 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 IS RIGHT HERE IN THE BROWN.
06:09:01 KIND OF PROVIDING THAT TRANSITION TO THE SOUTH.
06:09:03 AND THEN THIS IS RECREATION OPEN SPACE IN THE GREEN.
06:09:07 SO THAT ALLOWS UP TO 6 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE UNDER
06:09:13 THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:09:15 SO THAT IS THE DENSITY.
06:09:17 THROUGH THIS REQUEST, THE DENSITY WOULD COME OUT TO 5.26
06:09:23 UNITS PER ACRE SO IT'S STILL WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL 6
06:09:26 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND WE DID FIND IT CONSISTENT
06:09:29 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SINCE IT WOULD BE COMPARABLE
06:09:32 AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE LONG
06:09:34 RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 6 LAND
06:09:39 USE DESIGNATION.
06:09:40 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:09:41 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
06:09:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS?
06:09:44 NO?
06:09:44 ALL RIGHT.
06:09:45 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I HAVE A REVISED WAIVER.
06:09:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO DO THE STAFF REPORT FIRST
06:09:56 BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE A
06:09:59 CHANCE TO SPEAK.
06:09:59 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS WAS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS
06:10:05 CONTINUED FROM THE AUGUST HEARING.
06:10:09 JUST TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF, THIS IS A TWO-LOT SPLIT,
06:10:13 RS-75 ZONING DISTRICT.
06:10:17 THIS WAS THE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
06:10:20 THERE WAS CONCERN WITH CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER THIS LOT
06:10:25 WAS BUILDABLE WITH THIS LARGE PROTECTIVE RADII, AND THE
06:10:28 LIMITED BUILDING NFL.
06:10:31 THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THE NATURAL
06:10:36 RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH A NEW DESIGN FOR
06:10:43 LOTS A AND B.
06:10:48 WHERE THAT TREE IS WOULD BE REMOVED.
06:10:50 IT'S A 45-INCH TREE.
06:10:52 THEREFORE, A NEW WAIVER IS BEING ADDED.
06:10:55 SECTION 13-45 A-2 WHICH I JUST HAND OUT BECAUSE THIS WAS
06:11:01 REVIEWED UNDER THE PREVIOUS CODE, CITY CODE, SO REMOVAL
06:11:04 OF ONE KNOWN HAZARDOUS GRAND TREE, 45-INCH GRAND TREE.
06:11:11 NATURAL RESOURCES DID FIND THIS INCONSISTENT.
06:11:14 NATURAL RESOURCES FINDINGS ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
06:11:18 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION ALSO DID
06:11:20 FIND THIS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE SURROUNDING
06:11:24 PROPERTY, DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR THE INCONSISTENT
06:11:28 PATTERN OF CREATING TWO 60-FOOT WIDE LOTS IN THIS AREA.
06:11:32 IF IT IS CITY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO APPROVE THIS
06:11:35 APPLICATION, NATURAL RESOURCES, STORMWATER AND PLANNING
06:11:39 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DO HAVE CHANGES TO BE
06:11:42 MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:11:46 OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
06:11:49 THIS APPLICATION AND DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
06:11:51 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
06:11:53 AGAIN, THE FINDINGS ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR PLANNING
06:11:57 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION REGARDING THE
06:11:59 EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, AS WELL AS NATURAL
06:12:01 RESOURCES REGARDING THE PRESERVATION.
06:12:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
06:12:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS
06:12:14 PREMATURE OR NOT, IN REGARD TO THE TREE.
06:12:20 DO YOU HAVE TREE STAFF WITH YOU TONIGHT?
06:12:23 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
06:12:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO LET'S START WITH THAT.
06:12:27 UNLESS THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE THEIR OWN PRESENTATION.
06:12:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO.
06:12:31 STAFF WAS GOING TO PRESENT, I THINK.
06:12:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
06:12:35 LET ME HEAR TREE STAFF.
06:12:39 SO WHAT'S THE CONDITION OF THIS TREE?
06:12:41 >> I'M BILL BORES WITH NATURAL RESOURCES.
06:12:45 CONDITION OF THE TREE, IT'S A B-8 --
06:12:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A WHAT?
06:12:50 >> B-8.
06:12:51 B AS IN BOY, 8.
06:12:53 SO IT'S A, B, C, D, F.
06:12:56 SO IT'S PRESERVATION WORTHY TREE.
06:13:02 ONE OF THE LEADS WAS BROKEN OUT OF IT BUT STILL A B
06:13:06 RATING.
06:13:07 IT'S GOT A LARGE CANOPY.
06:13:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT A LIVE OAK?
06:13:10 >> LIVE OAK.
06:13:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A GRAND TREE?
06:13:12 >> CORRECT.
06:13:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION, B-
06:13:16 >> YES.
06:13:16 B AS IN BOY 8.
06:13:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
06:13:20 I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ALL I NEED UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE
06:13:24 HAD A QUESTION.
06:13:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:13:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:13:28 JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP.
06:13:32 MAYBE A QUESTION.
06:13:38 SO A SHOWING OF REMOVAL, SHOWING A REMOVAL, IS THAT PART
06:13:43 OF -- IS THAT REMOVAL PURSUANT TO OUR NEW ORDINANCE?
06:13:49 IT'S IN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.
06:13:52 OR IS THAT REMOVAL A REQUEST IN THIS PD AS A CONDITION?
06:13:56 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
06:13:58 A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
06:14:00 FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS AN OLDER CASE, SO IT IS ACTUALLY
06:14:04 GOING UNDER YOUR OLD CODE.
06:14:07 EVEN IF WE WERE GOING UNDER A NEW CODE, THIS IS NOT A
06:14:10 SMALL LOT, SO IT DOES NOT -- THE TRZ, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE
06:14:16 BEEN TOLD.
06:14:16 THAT BEING SAID IT'S GOING UNDER YOUR OLD CODE.
06:14:18 AND SO THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU ARE TO LOOK AT IS
06:14:21 WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A REASONABLE USE, WHETHER IT'S
06:14:25 DENYING REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY, FOUND ON PAGE 3
06:14:28 AND 4 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT.
06:14:30 THE FACTORS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER.
06:14:32 SO IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT'S BURDEN TO DEMONSTRATE THAT
06:14:35 IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT, BUT IT IS GOING UNDER YOUR OLD
06:14:38 CODE.
06:14:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO EVEN THOUGH THERE IS AN X ON THE
06:14:42 48-INCH TREE ON THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY UP
06:14:47 HERE TO BE CONFUSED THAT THAT TREE HAS BEEN GIVEN
06:14:51 PERMISSION TO BE REMOVED.
06:14:52 IT'S UP TO US BASED UPON THE CRITERIA, CORRECT?
06:14:56 >>REBECCA KERT: THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE WAY IT'S
06:14:58 BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, YES.
06:15:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:15:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT WE ASKED THAT WE GET FROM
06:15:06 NATURAL RESOURCES A REPORT AS RELATES TO TREES.
06:15:13 I DON'T SEE A WRITTEN REPORT HERE.
06:15:15 I THOUGHT WE ASKED FOR THAT, WITH ALL THE TREES COMING
06:15:20 UP.
06:15:20 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS -- THAT WE WOULD GET THESE REPORTS
06:15:27 EVERY TIME.
06:15:30 BECAUSE WE FELT THAT WAS A GOOD INDICATOR OF DECISION
06:15:36 MAKING.
06:15:36 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
06:15:50 >>BRIAN KNOX: NATURAL RESOURCES.
06:15:51 SO USUALLY THESE ARE UPLOADED INTO THE FILES.
06:15:55 AND SO WE JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE REPORT.
06:15:59 WE APOLOGIZE.
06:16:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE
06:16:03 DEPARTMENT HEAD CAME BEFORE US LAST TIME AND SAID THAT
06:16:05 THEY WOULD BE -- I'M EXPECTING WHEN I HEAR TREE REMOVAL,
06:16:10 IT WAS INDICATED, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD
06:16:13 LAYOUT FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION.
06:16:15 SO WOULD YOU PLEASE INDICATE THAT WE NEED THESE IN HERE
06:16:18 TO MAKE DECISIONS?
06:16:21 >>BRIAN KNOX: ABSOLUTELY, AND UNDERSTAND.
06:16:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE THINK SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM
06:16:25 ANYMORE.
06:16:26 >>BRIAN KNOX: YES, SIR.
06:16:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:16:29 NO?
06:16:29 SEEING NONE, PETITIONER.
06:16:30 >> JASON LANDAHL, PROPERTY OWNER.
06:16:37 LAST TIME WE WENT OVER THIS.
06:16:38 I HAD BRIAN ON-SITE.
06:16:40 AND IT WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION AT THE TIME TO TAKE THE
06:16:44 TREE OUT.
06:16:45 ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN HIS RECOMMENDATION SINCE WE STARTED
06:16:47 THIS, IS TO REMOVE THE TREE AND DO WHATEVER MITIGATION IS
06:16:51 REQUIRED IN TERMS OF ADDING PAYING TO THE TREE FUND FOR
06:16:54 THE CITY, AND ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES ON-SITE.
06:16:58 WHICH I HAVE AGREED TO.
06:17:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE]
06:17:11 >> OKAY.
06:17:13 STERLING IS A VERY LARGE LOT.
06:17:14 IT'S VERY DEEP, BUT NOT WIDE ENOUGH, OKAY.
06:17:19 UNDER THE CURRENT CODES, IT'S RS-75 ZONING.
06:17:23 BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE 7500 SQUARE FEET.
06:17:26 I HAVE GOT MORE THAN ADEQUATE SQUARE FEET, 8,257 SQUARE
06:17:30 FEET PER LOT.
06:17:31 SO I AM SHY FRONT.
06:17:35 ALL THE OTHER SETBACKS WE MEAT.
06:17:40 I HAVE GONE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
06:17:41 WE HAVE 31 OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SIGNED ON, OKAY,
06:17:46 INCLUDING EVERYONE ON THE BLOCK.
06:17:47 EVERYBODY IN THE 900 BLOCK OF STERLING HAS SIGNED ON.
06:17:50 THEY PREFER HAVING TWO BRAND NEW HOUSES THERE AND TAB THE
06:17:53 OLD 1950s HOUSE DOWN.
06:17:56 OKAY.
06:17:57 FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE, STERLING IS ONE BLOCK EAST OF DALE
06:18:01 MABRY.
06:18:02 AND I HAD TO NOTIFY PEOPLE -- I HAD TO NOTIFY PEOPLE
06:18:07 COMMERCIAL ZONING ON DALE MABRY.
06:18:10 I ALSO HAD TO NOTIFY PEOPLE WITH RS-50 ZONING, WHICH IS
06:18:15 HALF A BLOCK AWAY.
06:18:16 I CAN SEE THEM FROM MY HOUSE.
06:18:18 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IS THE CUL-DE-SAC.
06:18:21 SEVEN OF THE LOTS IN THE CUL-DE-SAC, SAME ZONING, RS-75,
06:18:26 NONE OF THOSE SEVEN LOTS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS
06:18:29 OF WIDTH OR SQUARE FOOTAGE.
06:18:33 OKAY.
06:18:33 CLEARLY, WHAT I AM ASKING FORFEITS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES
06:18:38 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:18:39 THE NEIGHBORS WANT IT.
06:18:42 OKAY.
06:18:43 I THOUGHT I WORKED OUT THE DETAILS ABOUT THE TREE,
06:18:47 BECAUSE AS A MATTER OF FACT BRYAN IS ASKING THAT WE SET
06:18:50 THE ENVELOPE BACK FROM 20 FEET IN THE REAR TO 12-FOOT
06:18:54 REAR SETBACK TO HELP PRESERVE THE TREE IN THE FRONT.
06:18:59 I MEAN, I HAVE TRIED TO WORK WITH BRIAN, WORK WITH THE
06:19:04 CITY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
06:19:07 I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING IS WE HAVE DONE THIS ONCE
06:19:09 BEFORE.
06:19:10 IT SHOWS UP IN THE NOTES.
06:19:11 LAST TIME WE WENT TO SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AND THEY RULED
06:19:15 THAT IT COULD NOT BE DENIED BASED ON THE FRONT FOOTAGE,
06:19:19 OKAY.
06:19:19 THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
06:19:21 THEY THINK IT FITS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:19:24 I HOPE YOU DO, TOO.
06:19:28 QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT I CAN ADDRESS?
06:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OF PETITIONER?
06:19:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE
06:19:42 THE MEAT OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET
06:19:44 ON PALMA CEIA COURT, I THINK CALLED THE PALERMO
06:19:48 SUBDIVISION THAT WAS 25, 30 YEARS AGO IF MY MEMORY SERVES
06:19:52 ME RIGHT.
06:19:52 >> CORRECT.
06:19:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THE LOT THAT I AM LOOKING AT NOW,
06:19:57 THERE ARE NONE ON THAT SIDE OF STERLING ALL THE WAY.
06:20:01 IN OTHER WORDS, MY CRITERIA WHEN I LOOK AT SOMETHING, IF
06:20:04 THERE IS NONE, I AM NOT GOING TO START A DEVELOPMENT OF
06:20:08 50, 75-FOOT LOTS WHEN YOU HAD YOU HAVE A 150 FOOT LOT.
06:20:13 THAT'S JUST MY VISION OF WHAT I SEE FOR TAMPA.
06:20:15 I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE ONCE -- I HAVE
06:20:19 BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO GO WHEN ONE GOES, THEY ALL GO.
06:20:24 A 1950 HOUSE COULD BE BRAND NEW TO ME.
06:20:30 I GOT A 12950 HOUSE.
06:20:33 I WOULD SHOW IT TO ANYBODY.
06:20:34 IT'S BRAND NEW.
06:20:35 SO I'M SURE YOURS IS BRAND NEW.
06:20:37 >> I CAN ASSURE YOU IT'S NOT.
06:20:44 TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN, OKAY, THIS IS NOT TO SET UP A
06:20:49 DOMINO EFFECT.
06:20:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME, THIS HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE,
06:20:52 TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
06:20:53 I REMEMBER HEARING THIS CASE.
06:20:55 >> YES.
06:20:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THE
06:20:58 RESULTS OF THE VOTE.
06:20:58 YOU KNOW THEM.
06:21:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:21:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:21:03 ANYTHING ELSE?
06:21:03 >> ONE OTHER THING I MIGHT ADD IS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE
06:21:08 STREET, IN THE 1000 BLOCK, THE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH, THERE
06:21:12 ARE FOUR LOTS THAT ARE ONLY 50 FEET WIDE.
06:21:18 SO WE ARE NOT REALLY BREAKING NEW GROUND HERE.
06:21:22 I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. MIRANDA HAS TO SAY, BUT THE
06:21:27 NEIGHBORS WANT IT, INCLUDING EVERYBODY ON THE BLOCK.
06:21:32 WHAT I AM ASKING -- THEY FEEL WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS
06:21:35 COMPATIBLE.
06:21:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:21:37 NO?
06:21:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:21:40 WE CAN GO TO ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
06:21:42 ITEM NUMBER 3 WHICH IS THE 910 SOUTH STERLING AVENUE.
06:21:46 PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL, AND APPROACH THE PODIUM
06:21:50 AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
06:21:52 YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
06:21:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF I COULD
06:22:16 JUST ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE TO GIVE AN ADDITIONAL
06:22:19 MINUTE TO THE SPEAKER.
06:22:20 PAT VAN DYKE, ARE YOU HERE?
06:22:22 YES, I SEE YOU.
06:22:23 AND STEPHANI POYNER?
06:22:29 ARE YOU HERE?
06:22:32 STEPHANI?
06:22:37 ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS?
06:22:38 >> NO, SIR.
06:22:40 I ACCIDENTALLY --
06:22:45 >> OKAY.
06:22:46 IT WAS OUTFRONT.
06:22:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW.
06:22:49 THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON
06:22:51 THIS YOU ARE GIVING UP YOUR TIME.
06:22:53 OKAY.
06:22:53 TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES, PLEASE.
06:22:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
06:22:58 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
06:23:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE ALSO SAID THAT SHE WOULD BE WILLING
06:23:07 TO GIVE UP AN EXTRA MINUTE TO THIS PERSON.
06:23:08 DID YOU SAY THAT OR DID YOU NOT?
06:23:10 >> I WOULD BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
06:23:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO ARE YOU THEN SAYING THAT YOU DON'T
06:23:15 WANT YOUR NAME ON THAT LIST?
06:23:18 >> I DID NOT SIGN UP TO GIVE AWAY MY MINUTE ON THIS
06:23:22 PARTICULAR --
06:23:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN LET ME STRIKE YOUR NAME FROM THE
06:23:27 LIST.
06:23:27 THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
06:23:28 I MISUNDERSTOOD.
06:23:29 >> IT WAS AT THE PODIUM OUTFRONT.
06:23:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL RIGHT.
06:23:35 THAT'S WITHDRAWN.
06:23:36 ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE, PLEASE.
06:23:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
06:23:39 RECORD.
06:23:41 FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.
06:23:43 >> MY NAME IS MARY JANE RICKLES.
06:23:45 IT'S MY HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU ON BEHALF OF GULF VIEW
06:23:47 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS THEIR COMMUNITY LIAISON, AS
06:23:50 VICE PRESIDENT OF WALK BY TAMPA, AS A THIRD GENERATION
06:23:53 TAMPA BAY CITIZEN AND AS A PUBLIC HEALTH AND REAL ESTATE
06:23:56 SPECIALIST AND AS A SOUTH STERLING RESIDENT.
06:23:58 IT'S OUR ASSOCIATION'S DESIRE TO PROTEST THE REZONING OF
06:24:01 SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY AT 910 SOUTH STERLING AVENUE.
06:24:04 PLEASE ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN.
06:24:06 THE CURRENT ZONING FOR GULF VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
06:24:08 IS RS-75 AND MOST LOTS ALONG OUR BEAUTIFUL SOUTH STERLING
06:24:13 STREET ARE APPROXIMATELY 75 FEET WADE.
06:24:15 THE OWNER OF 910 SOUTH STERLING AVENUE IS REQUESTING TO
06:24:18 REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT
06:24:22 WOULD ALLOW FOR TWO HOMES TO BE BUILT ON 60-FOOT WADE
06:24:25 LOTS WITH GRANDFATHER OAKS THAT HAVE SIDE SETBACKS OF
06:24:28 ONLY 7 FEET AND A FRONTS SETBACK OF 15 FEET FROM THE
06:24:31 STREET.
06:24:32 IF YOU WILL, PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED DRAWINGS THAT I HAVE
06:24:35 PROVIDED FOR YOU AS A REFERENCE.
06:24:37 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING
06:24:39 REQUEST FOR SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY FOR THE FOLLOWING
06:24:43 REASONS: NUMBER ONE, A 60-FOOT WIDE LOT IS INCONSISTENT
06:24:47 WITH THE 75-FOOT PLUS WIDE LOTS THROUGHOUT GULF VIEW AND
06:24:51 WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:24:54 NUMBER TWO, THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING
06:24:57 THE LOT SIZE IS AN IMPORTANT REASON WHY RESIDENTS
06:25:00 PURCHASE THEIR HOME THERE.
06:25:02 NUMBER THREE, THE HEALTHY GRANDFATHER OAKS AS REPORTED BY
06:25:05 AN ARBORIST AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL AND AT THIS MEETING
06:25:08 MAY IMPEDE ON THE ABILITY TO BUILD ONE OF THE HOMES IN
06:25:11 THE PRIOR DRAWINGS THAT HE PROVIDED AT YOUR LAST CITY
06:25:13 COUNCIL MEETING AND SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED.
06:25:16 WHILE THE PAST PLAN FOR THE LOT WITH THE TWO OAK TREES
06:25:19 WAS WORKED AROUND THE TREES WITH AN ODDLY SHAPED HOME, IT
06:25:22 IS OUR PRESENT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CURRENT PLAN WILL
06:25:24 BE PRESENTED WITH TWO RECTANGULAR SHAPED HOMES, AND IF SO
06:25:28 MAY DISREGARD THE TREES THAT ARE PRESENTLY ON THE
06:25:30 PROPERTY.
06:25:31 THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THESE HEALTHY TREES COULD BE
06:25:33 DAMAGED OR REMOVED.
06:25:35 NUMBER FOUR, THE LOT DOES NOT MEET THE PD REQUIREMENTS
06:25:38 WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS: THE LOT IS CHARACTERIZED BY UNIQUE
06:25:41 CONDITIONS OR SITUATIONS WHICH OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS
06:25:45 CAN'T ACCOMMODATE INCLUDING BUT SPECIFICALLY NOT LIMITED
06:25:47 TO PHYSICAL, UNUSUAL PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES,
06:25:51 TRANSPORTATION ACCESS AND ET CETERA, OR THE LOT INCLUDES
06:25:54 A MIXTURE OF APPROPRIATE LAND USES WHICH MAY NOT
06:25:56 OTHERWISE BE PERMITTED IN OTHER DISTRICTS.
06:25:59 NUMBER FIVE, THE SAME PROPERTY WAS DISAPPROVED BY CITY
06:26:02 COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 9, 2017.
06:26:05 KNOWING THIS, IT SEEMS THAT THE OWNER IS TRYING TO
06:26:07 REPROACH THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT IS NOW NEW MEMBERS
06:26:10 AND IS HOPING FOR A DECISION IN HIS FAVOR THIS TIME
06:26:12 AROUND.
06:26:13 NUMBER SIX, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN REPORTED TO BE IN A
06:26:16 STATE OF LEGISLATE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND REZONING IS NOT
06:26:19 AN APPROPRIATE SOLUTION.
06:26:21 NUMBER SEVEN, AS OF JULY 2019, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING
06:26:24 THAT THE CURRENT OWNER HAS NO FUTURE PLANS FOR THE
06:26:27 PROPERTY IF THE LOT IS SUBDIVIDED.
06:26:29 NUMBER EIGHT, A 15-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE STREET WILL
06:26:32 FORCE CARS OUTSIDE THE GARAGE TO PARK ON THE SIDEWALK
06:26:35 WHICH CAN BE A SAFETY CONCERN FOR PEDESTRIANS USING THE
06:26:38 SIDEWALK.
06:26:39 NUMBER NINE, IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT DUE TO ADDITIONAL
06:26:41 NEWER HOMES BEING BUILT NEARBY, THIS PARTLY OF SOUTH
06:26:44 STERLING EXPERIENCES SIGNIFICANT FLOODING ISSUES.
06:26:47 IT IS BELIEVED BY THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS NEARBY THAT AN
06:26:50 ADDITIONAL HOME WILL ONLY ADD TO THE FLOODING PROBLEM IN
06:26:53 THE AREA.
06:26:53 NUMBER TEN, DOING SO MAY SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER
06:26:56 PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOWER PROPERTY VALUES
06:26:59 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:27:00 NUMBER ELEVEN, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HOMEOWNER
06:27:02 IS THE PRESIDENT OF A DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND LIVES
06:27:04 IN MILWAUKEE, AND ACCORDING TO NEIGHBORS NO ONE HAS LIVED
06:27:07 ON THE PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
06:27:09 THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A SAD CASE OF A HOMEOWNER WHO
06:27:12 JUST WANTS TO BUILD A HOME BUT SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SPLIT
06:27:15 THE LOT, SELL IT AND MOVE ON.
06:27:17 IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THESE 31 SIGNATURES THAT HE
06:27:21 HAS REQUESTED FOR, WE HAVE NO RECORD OF THAT AND YOU WILL
06:27:24 NOT FEIGNED THAT IN YOUR RECORDS EITHER SO WE ARE NOT
06:27:26 FAMILIAR WITH ANY NEIGHBORS THAT PROMOTE THIS AGENDA
06:27:30 EITHER.
06:27:30 I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND THOUGHTFUL
06:27:32 CONSIDERATION OUR OPPOSITION WHICH WE PROVIDED TO YOU
06:27:35 WITH SIGNATURES TO THIS REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
06:27:38 WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO
06:27:40 THE PRESERVATION OF EACH OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS UNIQUE
06:27:43 CHARACTERISTICS WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT MAKES
06:27:46 TAMPA A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE WORK AND
06:27:49 PLAY.
06:27:49 THANK YOU.
06:27:49 [BELL SOUNDS]
06:27:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:27:51 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
06:27:52 >> MY NAME IS COLLEEN SMITH.
06:28:03 AND I LIVE AT 1001 SOUTH STERLING AVENUE, VERY CLOSE TO
06:28:09 THIS PROPERTY IN THE NEXT BLOCK.
06:28:13 I AM HERE TO REQUEST DENIAL OF THIS PROPOSAL.
06:28:18 FIRST OF ALL, I HEARD THAT THERE WERE 31 NEIGHBORS THAT
06:28:21 SIGNED OFF, AND I REALLY QUITE HONESTLY DON'T BELIEVE
06:28:27 THAT'S TRUE.
06:28:28 ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE SIGNING OFF,
06:28:31 NEIGHBORS HAVE SIGNED OFF, TO DENY THAT.
06:28:36 I DO APPRECIATE THE TREE DISCUSSION, WONDERFUL, YOU KNOW,
06:28:41 FOR THE TREES.
06:28:43 BUT, REALLY, YOU KNOW, A REZONING DEEP IN A RESIDENTIAL
06:28:48 NEIGHBORHOOD ON STERLING AVENUE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I
06:28:53 WOULD OPPOSE, AND MY HUSBAND WOULD OPPOSE, WHO ALSO LIVES
06:28:57 IN THE AREA.
06:28:58 SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO EXPRESS, THAT IT'S MY
06:29:02 EXPERIENCE AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF THE
06:29:05 NEIGHBORS THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO
06:29:07 DENY THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
06:29:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:29:15 NEXT, PLEASE.
06:29:15 >> MY NAME IS FRANK W. GATES II, I LIVE AT 3711 WEST
06:29:24 NEPTUNE, WHICH IS ON THE CORNER OF STERLING AND NEPTUNE,
06:29:28 WHICH IS THREE HOMES DOWN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE
06:29:31 STREET FROM THERE PROPERTY.
06:29:33 I DRIVE OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY EVERY MORNING, DRIVE DOWN THE
06:29:36 STREET, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO REALIZE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC
06:29:40 COMES TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL DOWN THIS STREET.
06:29:42 I JUST GET REALLY CONCERNED.
06:29:44 I SIGNED THE PETITION, BUT I WROTE IN A LETTER MYSELF
06:29:50 TODAY JUST TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I LIKEWISE
06:29:56 WOULD LIKE THIS TO DIE, AND I JUST THINK IT'S
06:29:59 INAPPROPRIATE TO START SPLITTING THESE LOTS ALL UP AND
06:30:02 DOWN THIS STREET WHEN WE ARE IN PALMA CEIA AND WE ARE IN
06:30:05 GULF SHORE, MEADOW PROPERTY OVER HERE AROUND THE GOLF
06:30:13 COURSE.
06:30:13 IT'S A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, HAS A BEAUTIFUL FEEL TO
06:30:16 IT, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT ADDS TO THIS
06:30:20 NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THERE'S SO MANY OTHERS THAT ARE ALREADY
06:30:23 PLANNED THAT CAN DO THIS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
06:30:26 I PUT A WHOLE LIST OF LOT SIZE ISSUES, PD ZONED SETBACKS.
06:30:31 I'M CONCERNED THAT MOVIE WHERE MOST OF THESE ARE LIKE 25
06:30:37 FEET IN, MOVING THIS TO 15 FEET IS JUST -- AND PEOPLE
06:30:40 DRIVING IN, PARKING TWO CARS, EVEN THOUGH EACH LOT IS 60
06:30:45 FEET, GOT FOUR CARS PARKING ON BUSY MORNINGS, AND THEN
06:30:49 VISITORS COMING OVER, PARKING ON THE STREET, IT'S GOING
06:30:52 TO CREATE ISSUES, ALSO.
06:30:54 YOU KNOW, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, MATURE OAKS.
06:30:58 I APPRECIATE THE -- I DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH WATER RUNOFF,
06:31:02 AND I HEARD THEM SAY THAT THEY WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
06:31:05 BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT'S GOING TO
06:31:07 COME OFF OF TWO BIG HOMES SITTING ON SMALL LOTS IN THIS
06:31:11 AREA.
06:31:12 AND THE CURRENT HOME HAS BEEN SERIOUSLY NEGLECTED.
06:31:15 I PUT SOME PICTURES IN FROM GOOGLE THIS MORNING.
06:31:19 WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE OWNER IS OBVIOUSLY -- OBVIOUSLY
06:31:23 HAD A YOUNG MAN WITH A TRUCK, AND HE SORT OF STAY THERE
06:31:27 IS MOST OF THE TIME, BUT JUST AN INAPPROPRIATE SITUATION
06:31:30 TO START TRYING TO CUT UP ALL OF THESE LARGER LOTS IN
06:31:34 THIS AREA WHEN THERE'S SO MANY OTHER AREAS.
06:31:36 SO I WOULD APPRECIATE CITY COUNCIL GIVING CONSIDERATION,
06:31:40 JUST DENY IT LIKE THEY DID BEFORE.
06:31:41 THANK YOU.
06:31:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:31:45 NEXT, PLEASE.
06:31:45 >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
06:31:50 >> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE SWORN?
06:31:54 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
06:31:55 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO NEEDS TO BE SWORN WHO HAS NOT
06:31:58 BEEN SWORN?
06:31:58 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO
06:32:01 SO, AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.
06:32:03 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
06:32:08 >> I DO.
06:32:09 MY NAME IS CAROL ANN BENNETT, I LIVE IN VIRGINIA PARK
06:32:13 WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO GULF VIEW.
06:32:14 I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
06:32:16 I WAS BORN IN FLORIDA, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU WE
06:32:21 SOUTHERNERS GET REALLY TIRED OF HEARING, THAT'S NOT THE
06:32:24 WAY WE DID IT UP NORTH.
06:32:26 BUT I HAVE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
06:32:28 SOMETIMES THEY GET THINGS RIGHT.
06:32:30 MY HUSBAND IS FROM NEW YORK, AND WHEN HE MOVED TO TAMPA,
06:32:33 AND HE HEARD ABOUT REZONINGS AND VARIANCES AND WAIVERS,
06:32:37 HE WAS ASTOUNDED.
06:32:39 IN NEW YORK YOU BUILD WHAT IS ALLOWED ACCORDING TO THE
06:32:41 ZONING IN THE CODE.
06:32:43 YOU BUY THE PROPERTY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD WHAT YOU
06:32:46 WANT TO BUILD.
06:32:48 MY FATHER-IN-LAW OWNED A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN NEW
06:32:51 YORK.
06:32:54 AND HE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW
06:32:58 WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THE PROPERTY BEFORE THEY
06:33:00 BUY IT.
06:33:02 MY MOTHER AND FATHER-IN-LAW OWNED .92 ACRES.
06:33:07 THEY COULDN'T DO THINGS THAT REQUIRED ONE ACRE, PERIOD.
06:33:09 THIS IS KNOWN AND ACCOUNTED FOR WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED AND
06:33:12 WHEN IT WAS SOLD, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ZONING.
06:33:15 SIMPLE.
06:33:16 CONSISTENT.
06:33:17 PREDICTABLE.
06:33:20 DON'T WASTE EVERYONE'S TIME AND RESOURCES TRYING TO
06:33:22 CONSTANTLY GET SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO EVERY SINGLE RULE.
06:33:26 WHEN THE BUILDERS TOLD THE CITY COUNCIL THEY WANTED THE
06:33:29 TREE CODE REWRITTEN THE MAIN REASON THEY CITED WAS
06:33:33 PREDICTABILITY AND CONSISTENCY.
06:33:34 THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A LOT AND KNOW WHAT
06:33:36 THEY COULD DO WITH IT AND NOT WASTE THEIR VALUABLE TIME
06:33:39 TRYING TO GET VARIANCES.
06:33:40 I AGREE WITH THEM.
06:33:41 ALL OF THIS LENIENCY AND SUBJECTIVITY AND SPECIAL
06:33:44 CONSIDERATION AND CONSTANT EXCEPTIONS WASTE EVERYBODY'S
06:33:46 TIME AND RESOURCES ESPECIALLY THE CITY'S.
06:33:49 I LOOK AT ALL OF THIS AND ALL I HEAR IS A HUGE SUCKING
06:33:55 SOUND.
06:33:55 IT IS THE HUGE SUCKING SOUND OF VALUABLE TIME AND
06:33:58 RESOURCES BEING SUCKED RIGHT DOWN THE DRAIN OF WASTE AS
06:34:01 PEOPLE TRY TO GET SPECIAL FAVORS THEY HAVE NO RATE TO
06:34:04 EXPECT.
06:34:05 THE SOLUTION TO THIS WASTE OF ALL THESE RESOURCES IS
06:34:09 SIMPLE.
06:34:10 ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ADHERE TO THE LAW, ADHERE TO THE
06:34:12 BIG PICTURE, LONG-TERM, PROFESSIONAL PLANNING OF THIS
06:34:15 CITY THAT LAID OUT ZONINGS AND CODES.
06:34:17 AS A PARENT, I WENT TO A GROCERY STORE AND MY CHILD THREW
06:34:21 A FIT FOR CANDY AND I GAVE IN BECAUSE I WAS EXHAUSTED AND
06:34:25 I DIDN'T HAVE THE STRENGTH TO STAND UP TO THEM I WAS
06:34:28 GUARANTEED A FULL-BLOWN HISSY FIT THE NEXT TIME I GO TO
06:34:31 THE GROCERY STORE.
06:34:33 YOU ARE LIKE THE GOOD PARENT WHO WHEN THEY SET THE GROUND
06:34:35 RECALLS THEY MEAN IT SO THEY DON'T WASTE ALL THAT ENERGY
06:34:38 BY HISSY FITS.
06:34:40 I AM ASK YOU TO BE THAT GOOD RESPONSIBLE BARNETT AND
06:34:42 FOLLOW THE LAW.
06:34:43 [BELL SOUNDS]
06:34:44 THE LAW IS WRONG.
06:34:45 THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS CHANGE IT.
06:34:47 DON'T CIRCUMVENT IT ONE EXCEPTION AT A TIME.
06:34:50 THAT IS GOVERNING BY EXCEPTION, AND IT IS THE POOREST WAY
06:34:53 OF GOVERNING.
06:34:54 AND AS A POSTSCRIPT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF YOU LOOK UP
06:34:57 THE DEFINITION OF A PD, YOU WILL FIND THAT THIS PROPERTY
06:35:02 DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO FITTING THAT DEFINITION.
06:35:04 SO I BELIEVE EVEN IF THEY WERE TO GET A REZONING, THIS
06:35:08 WOULD BE THE IMPROPER ONE TO GIVE THEM.
06:35:10 THEY HAVE ASKED FOR AN IMPROPER ONE IN OTHER WORDS.
06:35:12 THANK YOU.
06:35:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:35:15 IS ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
06:35:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE THE REBUTTAL, SIR,
06:35:24 I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL JUST BRIEFLY
06:35:26 BEFORE THE REBUTTAL ON CERTAIN ISSUES.
06:35:30 THERE WAS REFERENCE MADE TO THE CODE, THE DEFINITION AND
06:35:35 THE PURPOSE OF THE SITE PLAN ZONING, REDISTRICT
06:35:38 PROCEDURES.
06:35:38 WE DO HAVE A COPY OF THAT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT IS ALSO
06:35:41 CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS.
06:35:42 LIKEWISE, YOU ALSO HAVE THE WAIVER PROVISIONS BEFORE YOU.
06:35:48 THAT IS THE BASIS UPON WHICH YOU MUST BASE YOUR DECISION,
06:35:55 AND BASED ON APPLYING THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
06:35:59 FROM THIS PARTICULAR HEARING TO THE PETITION BEFORE YOU,
06:36:04 AND THE SECTIONS OF THE CODE, BOTH WITH REGARD TO THE
06:36:07 PURPOSE AND WITH REGARD TO THE WAIVERS.
06:36:09 THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT CAME UP
06:36:11 IN THE COURSE OF THE HEARING THAT I BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE
06:36:14 ADDRESSED IN THE RECORD.
06:36:15 ONE OF THEM IS THE CONCEPT OF THE DUELING PETITIONS.
06:36:19 THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES FRANKLY AND THE FACT THAT MORE
06:36:25 PETITIONS IS NOT COURTS HAVE FOUND TO BE COMPETENT,
06:36:28 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
06:36:29 IT WOULD BE ERROR FOR YOU TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE
06:36:31 NUMBER OF PETITIONS ON THE FACT OF WHAT THE PETITIONS ARE
06:36:36 PUT FORTH FOR.
06:36:38 HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE, FOR INSTANCE, VERIFIABLE FACTS
06:36:42 UPON WHICH YOU CAN BASE YOUR EVIDENCE CONTAINED WITHIN
06:36:45 THE PETITION, THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE THAT FOR FINDINGS
06:36:51 OF FACT.
06:36:52 BUT AS A SIDE, PETITIONS DO NOT CONSTITUTE COMPETENT,
06:36:56 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
06:36:57 THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE PREVIOUS
06:37:00 PETITION IN 2017.
06:37:02 THAT IS NOT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
06:37:03 THAT IS NOT IN THE RECORD.
06:37:04 THAT DOES NOT EXIST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT.
06:37:07 SO ANY FINDINGS YOU MAKE TODAY HAVE TO BE BASED ON THE
06:37:12 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT EXISTS AS OF THIS
06:37:14 HEARING.
06:37:15 FINALLY, ALSO, THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE HOME.
06:37:18 YOU WILL FIND THAT THERE WAS NO REFERENCE TO THE PRESENT
06:37:20 CONDITION OF THE USE OF THAT SITE, UNDER 27-136, THE
06:37:26 PURPOSE.
06:37:27 SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY, AFTER HEARING FROM
06:37:34 REBUTTAL, RELY ON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE,
06:37:38 MAKE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT YOU FIND THEM TO BE, AND APPLY
06:37:42 THOSE FINDINGS SPECIFICALLY TO CITED PROVISIONS IN THE
06:37:45 CODE AND BASE YOUR DECISION UPON THAT.
06:37:48 THANK YOU.
06:37:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
06:37:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A QUESTION, SIR.
06:37:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL, I THINK IT'S
06:37:55 FAIR THAT I ASK STAFF QUESTIONS AND THEN HE CAN REBUT.
06:37:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION, COUNCIL, AND THIS IS
06:38:01 GENERAL TO EVERY PETITION, THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO
06:38:03 ELICIT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FROM ANY WITNESS
06:38:07 IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE.
06:38:09 IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IN ORDER TO
06:38:11 MAKE A FINDING OF FACT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO INQUIRE.
06:38:15 MY SUGGESTION IS ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED BEFORE
06:38:17 THE REBUTTAL TO GIVE THE PETITIONER THE LAST WORD SO YOU
06:38:20 CAN THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE YOUR DECISION.
06:38:24 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I AGREE.
06:38:25 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:38:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
06:38:32 >>LUIS VIERA: WHILE SHE COMES UP I WANT TO THANK MR.
06:38:34 SHELBY FOR THAT H.IT'S POSITIVE ARE TO THE EXTENT WE MAKE
06:38:36 DECISIONS HERE THAT OUR FOUNDATION BE SOLID SO THAT LATER
06:38:41 ON OUR HOUSE DOESN'T COME TUMBLING DOWN ON DECISIONS.
06:38:45 >> THE GOAL, COUNCIL, IS TO HAVE WHATEVER DECISION
06:38:49 COUNCIL MAKES IS THAT IF CHALLENGED BY ANY PARTY, IT WILL
06:38:54 BE SUSTAINED BECAUSE YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE, YOU ARE
06:38:57 WORKING ON THEIR BEHALF.
06:38:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
06:39:01 COUNCILMAN, GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:39:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEGAL COUNSEL SPOKE TO US EARLIER
06:39:05 ABOUT REASONABLENESS.
06:39:08 MARY.
06:39:10 AND MY QUESTION TO YOU AS THE RESIDENT EXPERT IN THE LAND
06:39:14 USE PLANNER THAT WE RELY ON IS IF THIS PROPOSAL IS
06:39:19 DENIED, IF THIS PD IS DENIED, AND HE'S LEFT WITH THE
06:39:25 STATUS QUO, WHICH IS 120 BY, LET'S SEE, 137.5 FEET, WHICH
06:39:39 IS THE CURRENT STATUS QUO, DOES HE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
06:39:44 BUILD, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO KNOCK DOWN THE EXISTING HOUSE,
06:39:49 COULD HE REBUILD AT LEAST ONE VERY LARGE SINGLE-FAMILY
06:39:54 HOUSE ON THAT 120-FOOT WIDE LOT?
06:39:57 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
06:39:59 IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YES, CO-BUILD ONE HOUSE AND
06:40:02 ASSOCIATED EXISTING STRUCTURES.
06:40:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
06:40:06 AND KEEP THE TREE, I WOULD GUESS, OR MAYBE I SHOULDN'T
06:40:09 GUESS AT ALL.
06:40:12 MAYBE WE COULD ASK BRIAN TO COME UP OR OTHER TREE STAFF,
06:40:17 WHICHEVER.
06:40:18 TO SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH -- WE COULD
06:40:23 ACCOMPLISH BUILDING A VERY LARGE HOME, AND THEN THE NEXT
06:40:25 QUESTION FOR TREE STAFF IS, AND KEEP THE 48-FOOT --
06:40:30 EXCUSE ME, 48-INCH GRAND TREE?
06:40:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ONE MOMENT, SIR.
06:40:37 THIS IS THE PREVIOUS CODE.
06:40:41 >> BILL: I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT ON-SITE.
06:40:51 THERE'S AN EXISTING HOUSE ON-SITE.
06:40:53 BILL BORES WITH NATURAL RESOURCE STAFF.
06:40:59 RIGHT NOW THE TREE SITS WITH THE CURRENT RESIDENCE ^.
06:41:03 AND NOW WE ARE STARTING -- IS HE GOING TO BUILD A
06:41:07 ONE-STORY, A TWO-STORY?
06:41:08 OBVIOUSLY A ONE-STORY IS GOING TO FIT UNDER THE CANOPY
06:41:11 MORE THAN A TWO-STORY.
06:41:12 WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
06:41:14 I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
06:41:16 BUT THERE'S A HOUSE THERE THAT'S PRETTY SIZABLE,
06:41:18 ONE-STORY, AND THE TREE FITS IN THAT SIDE YARD.
06:41:23 IT'S ABOUT 12 FEET FROM THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE YARD.
06:41:27 IT'S 12 FEET IN.
06:41:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME CUT TO THE CHASE.
06:41:32 IS IT BILL?
06:41:34 >> YES.
06:41:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO THE SIGNIFICANT BRANCHES EXTEND
06:41:38 ONTO WHAT'S LABELED AT LOT A WHICH IS THE NORTHERN LOT?
06:41:43 >> NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
06:41:45 THERE ARE BRANCHES OVER THE EXISTING HOME, BUT, NO.
06:41:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO AT A MINIMUM, HE CAN BUILD THAT
06:41:54 TWO-STORY HOUSE ON LOT A AND LEAVE THE TREE ON LOT B?
06:42:01 >> YES.
06:42:01 IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YES.
06:42:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:42:08 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:42:10 >> NO.
06:42:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:42:12 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
06:42:15 I'M SORRY, MA'AM?
06:42:16 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, JUST COLLECTING MY MATERIALS.
06:42:19 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR STAFF
06:42:22 BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL?
06:42:23 YOU MAY PROCEED, SIR, FOR REBUTTAL.
06:42:25 >> SEVERAL THINGS.
06:42:28 NUMBER ONE --
06:42:30 >>LUIS VIERA: STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
06:42:30 >> I'M JASON LANDAHL, PROPERTY OWNER.
06:42:34 FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR SAYING I WAS THE
06:42:36 YOUNG MAN THAT LIVES THERE.
06:42:38 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:42:40 I NEEDED THAT TONIGHT.
06:42:49 >> WE ARE MEETING THE 75 FEET REQUIREMENT, ALL THE CODES
06:42:55 FOR RS-75, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 20 OR 25?
06:42:59 25 IS HOW IT'S DRAWN.
06:43:02 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 15 FEET COMES FROM.
06:43:04 SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ARGUMENT EVEN EXISTS.
06:43:07 OKAY.
06:43:07 BECAUSE WE DO MEET THE RS-75.
06:43:10 ALL THE SETBACKS, FRONT, SIDE, REAR, ALL RS-75.
06:43:15 SO THAT IS A GIVEN.
06:43:16 IT HASN'T CHANGED.
06:43:17 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 15-FOOT SETBACK COMES FROM.
06:43:22 THE ISSUE WITH THE TREE, I MET WITH BRIAN ON-SITE.
06:43:29 IT WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ELIMINATE THE TREE.
06:43:34 I'M DOING WHAT THE CITY ASKED ME TO DO.
06:43:36 SO I AM TRYING TO DO THE BEST I CAN, WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL
06:43:41 WITH.
06:43:43 SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, I'M NOT CERTAIN, I HAVEN'T
06:43:48 SEEN THEIR PETITION, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THEY
06:43:51 HAVE.
06:43:51 YOU HAVE THE 31 LETTERS IN THE FILE THAT I SUBMITTED LAST
06:43:54 TIME.
06:43:54 SO IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR RECORDS.
06:43:57 AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY ON THE BLOCK.
06:44:01 ONE OF THE YOUNG LADIES LIVES IN VIRGINIA PARK.
06:44:05 THAT'S QUITE A HIKE AWAY.
06:44:08 I MEAN, THAT REALLY DOESN'T IMPACT -- I MEAN THE
06:44:11 NEIGHBORS, THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ON THE BLOCK,
06:44:14 EVERYBODY ON THE STREET THINKS IT'S MORE COMPATIBLE TO
06:44:18 HAVE TWO BRAND NEW HOUSES, WHICH WILL INCREASE PROPERTY
06:44:22 VALUES MUCH GREATER THAN HAVING A 1950s ONE-STORY HOUSE
06:44:27 SITTING THERE.
06:44:29 AND IF YOU ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES,
06:44:31 I'M CERTAIN TWO BRAND NEW HOUSES WOULD DO MUCH GREATER
06:44:34 THAN A -- TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN THE OLD HOUSE THAT'S
06:44:37 EXISTING.
06:44:43 THE TREE -- BRIAN?
06:44:54 >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, YOU MUST ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
06:44:55 >> BUT IF BRIAN HAS BEEN TO THE SITE SINCE WE MET OUT
06:44:59 THERE.
06:45:00 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WOULDN'T POSE A QUESTION TO HIM FROM
06:45:03 THE PODIUM THERE.
06:45:04 YOU ONLY MAY SPEAK --
06:45:06 >>> WELL, IN THE EVENT HE HAS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IS THE
06:45:08 LAST TIME HE HAS BEEN ON-SITE, OKAY.
06:45:10 I JUST -- I WOULD RATHER PASS AWAY IN CHICAGO, I SPENT
06:45:16 THE LAST 30 DAYS IN CHICAGO.
06:45:18 I JUST CAME BACK TOSS.
06:45:21 THAT TREE, THAT SIDE YARD THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING, IF IT
06:45:25 WAS 12 FEET FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE
06:45:29 CROWN OF THAT TREE HAS COLLAPSED.
06:45:31 IT JUST MISSED THE HOUSE BUT IT TOOK OUT THE AIR
06:45:34 CONDITIONER AND A SHED THAT WAS BACK THERE.
06:45:37 I HAVE GOT A PHOTOGRAPH IF THAT HELPS COUNSEL.
06:45:41 SO WE MIGHT BE FIGHTING OVER A TREE THAT -- I DON'T KNOW
06:45:47 HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN SAVE OF IT BUT THE LARGE PORTION IN
06:45:50 THE MIDDLE OF THE TREE FELL AND COLLAPSED.
06:45:57 ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THAT I CAN
06:46:01 ADDRESS?
06:46:02 >>LUIS VIERA: AND ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR REBUTTAL?
06:46:05 >> NO, I THINK WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS.
06:46:08 I MEAN, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THE
06:46:12 IDEA.
06:46:16 WE ARE NOT OVERREACHING HERE WITH A 60-FOOT WIDE LOTS.
06:46:21 WE HAVE MORE THAN ADD QUALITY SQUARE FOOTAGE.
06:46:25 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ARE THE SEVEN LOTS WHICH DON'T
06:46:29 QUALIFY FOR WIDTH OR SQUARE FOOTAGE.
06:46:33 AND IF ANY OF THOSE HOMES WERE BURNED DOWN TONIGHT, THEY
06:46:36 COULD REBUILD.
06:46:37 THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL
06:46:40 AND GO FOR REZONING OR ANYTHING DIFFERENT, OKAY.
06:46:43 THEY COULD BE REBUILT RIGHT AWAY.
06:46:44 SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ALREADY
06:46:47 EXISTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:46:50 SAY THE 1,000 BLOCK FURTHER DOWN THE STREET ON THE SAME
06:46:53 SIDE OF THE STREET, TO ADDRESS CHARLIE'S CONCERN, THERE
06:46:56 ARE LOTS THAT ARE 50 FEET WIDE, THREE OF THEM 50 FEET
06:47:02 WIDE.
06:47:03 IF THE COUNCIL WANTS THE ADDRESSES, I CAN PROVIDE THE
06:47:05 ADDRESSES.
06:47:06 SO I'M ASKING TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS.
06:47:15 LET'S MOVE ON AND GIVE THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS EXACTLY
06:47:17 WHAT THEY WANT.
06:47:18 [BELL SOUNDS]
06:47:21 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:47:22 >> I GUESS THAT DOES IT.
06:47:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:47:24 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:47:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. LANDAHL, THERE'S BEEN REFERENCE BY
06:47:32 YOU AND THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT YOUR 31 PETITIONS OR 31
06:47:41 SIGNATURES.
06:47:41 >> YES, YES.
06:47:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU GIVEN THAT TO --
06:47:44 >> YES, AT THE LAST HEARING.
06:47:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST HEARING WHEN, LIKE A YEAR
06:47:48 AGO?
06:47:49 >> NO, LAST HEARING FOUR MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE HERE.
06:47:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IT'S IN THE RECORD?
06:47:54 >> IT'S IN THE RECORD, YES.
06:47:55 I DO HAVE A COPY OF THEM IF YOU LIKE THEM.
06:47:58 BUT THEY ARE IN THE RECORD.
06:47:59 I DO HAVE THEM.
06:48:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, JUST WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND
06:48:03 MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE RECORD.
06:48:04 I JUST WANTED -- MR. SHELBY, I AM NOT RELYING ON THE
06:48:09 QUANTITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT THERE WAS SOME
06:48:10 CONFUSION.
06:48:11 >> TO ADDRESS THAT IN SEQUENCE, THE ADDRESSES ON
06:48:15 STERLING, SO THE 900 BLOCK OF STERLING.
06:48:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A OF OTHER QUESTIONS.
06:48:22 I SORT OF RECALL THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, YOU HAVE
06:48:26 OWNED THIS PROPERTY A LONG TIME, LIKE 20-SOME YEARS.
06:48:29 >>
06:48:29 >> 2005.
06:48:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 14 YEARS.
06:48:34 AND THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLATTED LOT.
06:48:42 THIS ISN'T TWO PLATTED LOTS, CORRECT?
06:48:44 >> NO.
06:48:45 IT WAS THE METES AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION.
06:48:47 APPARENTLY IT HAD BEEN A FARM BACK IN, I DON'T KNOW,
06:48:50 1800S OR WHENEVER IT WAS AND IT WAS SUBDIVIDED MANY, MANY
06:48:54 YEARS AGO.
06:48:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
06:48:55 BUT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION WE ARE WORKING WITH TODAY SHOWS
06:48:57 THIS AS ONE SINGLE PLATTED LOT, CORRECT?
06:49:01 >> RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A LOT.
06:49:03 I MEAN IT'S MORE METES AND BOUNDS THAN LOT X, BLOCK
06:49:07 SO-AND-SO.
06:49:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND.
06:49:12 AND YOU COMFORTABLY HAD ONE SINGLE HOUSE ON THIS 120-FOOT
06:49:18 PROPERTY.
06:49:19 >> LET ME ADDRESS THAT.
06:49:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE 14 YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
06:49:22 THERE?
06:49:22 >> ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE DOING IT AS ONE LARGE HOUSE,
06:49:27 REMEMBER, IT'S ONE BLOCK FROM DALE MABRY.
06:49:30 THE RS-50 ZONING IS HALF A BLOCK AWAY.
06:49:33 I HAD TO NOTIFY THOSE PEOPLE.
06:49:35 I DON'T BELIEVE QUITE FRANKLY, I HAD IT ON THE MARKET AS
06:49:39 ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOT WITH NO TAKERS IN THIS INTERIM
06:49:42 SINCE IT WAS DENIED BACK IN '17.
06:49:45 OKAY.
06:49:46 NOBODY IS GOING TO BUILD A MEGA HOUSE WITH SMALL HOUSES
06:49:50 SO CLOSE BY.
06:49:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO TESTIFY,
06:49:55 SO I WON'T, BUT I PASS THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE
06:49:58 TIME AND I SEE A LOT OF BIG, BIG HOUSE GOING UP.
06:50:01 >> BUT RS-50 JUST A FEW DOORS DOWN?
06:50:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S RIGHT, I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO
06:50:06 TESTIFY.
06:50:06 >> I DON'T KNOW, BUT PEOPLE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY NOW FOR
06:50:10 THE LAST TWO YEARS AND NOBODY STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE.
06:50:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:50:16 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER?
06:50:17 OKAY.
06:50:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:50:19 AND YOU HAD ABOUT 30 SECONDS EXTRA.
06:50:21 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO TELL US IN THAT
06:50:24 TIME JUST TO GIVE YOU THE FINAL WORD?
06:50:26 >> THE NEIGHBORS WANT IT.
06:50:32 OKAY.
06:50:35 THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT IT DON'T LIVE ON THE BLOCK.
06:50:39 OKAY.
06:50:40 THEY LIVE MILES AWAY, OR BLOCKS AWAY.
06:50:43 I WOULD APPRECIATE GIVING THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS EXACTLY
06:50:48 WHAT THEY WANT WHICH IS GOING TO INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY
06:50:50 VALUES, NOT SOME PHANTOM THING DOWN THE STREET.
06:50:53 ONE OTHER LAST THING.
06:50:54 THE IDEA THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DOMINO
06:50:57 EFFECT, THERE AREN'T OTHER LOTS TO SUBDIVIDE.
06:51:00 I MEAN, THIS IS BASICALLY IT.
06:51:01 THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MEETS THE
06:51:04 SAME CRITERIA THAT I HAVE.
06:51:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:51:09 WE APPRECIATE IT.
06:51:09 OKAY.
06:51:10 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
06:51:12 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRUS, SECONDED BY
06:51:15 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:51:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:51:16 ANY OPPOSED?
06:51:17 OKAY.
06:51:17 A WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
06:51:23 YES, SIR?
06:51:31 WHERE IS MR. SHELBY?
06:51:34 WE JUST WANT YOU IN HERE, SIR, WHEN WE DO THE MOTION.
06:51:39 >>BILL CARLSON: TELL ME IF I AM DOING THIS RIGHT.
06:51:40 I MOVE TO DENY REZ 19-63 TO THE FAILURE OF PETITIONER TO
06:51:46 PROVIDE PROOF THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS CONDITIONED AND
06:51:50 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:51:52 PLAN OF CITY CODE, SPECIFICALLY THAT THE STAFF FOUND IT
06:51:55 INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THAT THE
06:52:01 LOT FRONTAGE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING HISTORICAL
06:52:05 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND
06:52:07 INCONSISTENT, AND INCONSISTENT FINDINGS FROM NATURAL
06:52:11 RESOURCES.
06:52:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU
06:52:19 REFERENCE THE PARTICULAR SECTIONS OF THE CODE?
06:52:24 THE PARTICULAR SECTIONS OF THE SITE PLAN AND DID YOU MAKE
06:52:28 ANY FINDINGS WITH REGARD TO THOSE SITE PLANS?
06:52:33 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE CAN HELP.
06:52:35 >>LUIS VIERA: A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?
06:52:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS SECONDER OF THE MOTION, MR.
06:52:40 CARLSON, WANTS ME TO CHIME IN?
06:52:44 >>LUIS VIERA: IT WOULD APPEAR SO.
06:52:45 OR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:52:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
06:52:53 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I JUST WANTED TO JUMP --
06:52:56 >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN, BECAUSE
06:52:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS REFERENCING FINDINGS THAT WERE
06:53:01 BASED UPON PARTICULAR SECTIONS IN THE STATE STATUTE
06:53:04 REQUIRES YOU TO STATE THE SECTION AND IT WAS 27-136 WHICH
06:53:07 WAS BASED UPON THE ITEMS THAT HAD YOU WERE CITING AS WELL
06:53:11 AS POLICY 9.0-8 OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:53:16 THAT IS WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING BASED UPON THE STAFF
06:53:18 REPORT.
06:53:19 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I TAKE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT?
06:53:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IS THAT YOUR INTENTION?
06:53:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:53:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
06:53:26 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY, IS THIS SUFFICIENT LEGALLY, I
06:53:29 WOULD ASSUME?
06:53:38 YES OF THE WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:53:40 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:53:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:53:43 ANY OPPOSED?
06:53:44 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:53:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:53:51 NOW WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
06:53:53 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REZ 19-95, A REZONING
06:53:57 REQUEST FOR 4001 NORTH MYRTLE AVENUE --
06:54:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, ITEM NUMBER --
06:54:05 >>LUIS VIERA: EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY, 6.
06:54:09 SORRY.
06:54:10 6.
06:54:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM PD,
06:54:14 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
06:54:15 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
06:54:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOLKS THAT WERE HERE ON STERLING, WE
06:54:26 TOOK A VOTE.
06:54:27 THE PROJECT WAS DENIED.
06:54:30 OKAY?
06:54:34 I JUST SAW PARALYSIS OUT THERE.
06:54:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE, THANK YOU.
06:54:38 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
06:54:38 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
06:54:43 IT IS WITHIN THE EVACUATION ZONE D.
06:54:45 WE HAVE TWO HART ROUTES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT
06:54:48 SITE.
06:54:48 IT RUNS NUMBER 7 AND NUMBER 2.
06:54:52 I AM GOING TO SHOW AN AERIAL.
06:54:55 WE ARE ON MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD AND NORTH
06:54:59 WILLOW AVENUE.
06:55:00 THE LOT AT THE CORNER.
06:55:01 I HAVE NORTH BOULEVARD OVER HERE.
06:55:04 THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND THEN
06:55:07 TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AS WE MOVE NORTH ALONG NORTH
06:55:12 MYRTLE.
06:55:12 AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE, A LIST OF COMMERCIAL USES AND
06:55:15 A LOT OF MEDICAL OFFICES ON THE PORTION OF WEST MARTIN
06:55:19 LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
06:55:20 ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE PROPERTY IS COMMUNITY
06:55:23 MIXED USE 35 WHICH ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THOSE
06:55:26 COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, AND THEN TO THE NORTH WE HAVE
06:55:29 THAT TRANSITION TO RESIDENTIAL 10, WHICH IS THAT
06:55:33 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:55:36 WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:55:38 THE ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE COMMERCIAL
06:55:41 DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
06:55:45 WE ALSO FOUND THIS WOULD BE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
06:55:48 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THAT LONG RANGE
06:55:50 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ENVISIONED IN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE
06:55:53 35.
06:55:54 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:55:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAME.
06:55:58 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED BACK IN 1985
06:56:03 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
06:56:05 UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THEY REZONED IT THEY ONLY ALLOWED FOR
06:56:10 ONE USE WITHIN THAT LAND DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS MEDICAL
06:56:13 OFFICE, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY CONSIDERATION FOR
06:56:16 ANY FURTHER USES.
06:56:19 BECAUSE OF THAT RESTRICTION, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER
06:56:21 WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THIS PLANNED
06:56:25 DEVELOPMENT TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO
06:56:27 ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR CHANGES OF USE IN NEW
06:56:32 DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY.
06:56:32 AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS IN ORANGE.
06:56:35 THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL BEHIND IT,
06:56:38 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:56:40 ONTO THE DIRECT EAST, AND THEN COMMERCIAL GENERAL FURTHER
06:56:46 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MYRTLE GOING TOWARDS THE RIVER.
06:56:50 THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
06:56:52 THERE'S NO SITE PLAN TO REVIEW, NO WAIVERS TO ASK FOR.
06:56:55 THEY WOULD BE PART OF ALL SEMINOLE HEIGHTS USES, MEETS
06:57:03 CRITERIA I INCLUDED THE DATA FOR CRITERIA IN YOUR STAFF
06:57:08 REPORT ON PAGES 2 AND 3 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
06:57:12 [RUSTLING PAPERS] SAYING THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT,
06:57:15 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION AND FOUND
06:57:18 IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
06:57:19 CODE.
06:57:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:57:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:57:26 PETITIONER?
06:57:33 NUMBER 6.
06:57:37 HOW ARE YOU DOING, MA'AM?
06:57:38 >> JACQUELINE ROJAS, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
06:57:47 >>CHAIRMAN: ANYTHING FURTHER?
06:57:49 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
06:57:51 OKAY.
06:57:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:57:53 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 6?
06:57:56 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
06:58:00 WE HAVE OOH MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:58:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:58:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:58:04 ANY OPPOSED?
06:58:05 WHO ARE WE ON WITH READING?
06:58:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE REZ-19-95.
06:58:17 MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
06:58:19 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
06:58:23 GENERAL VICINITY OF 4001 NORTH MYRTLE AVENUE IN THE CITY
06:58:27 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
06:58:29 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
06:58:31 DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO SH-CG
06:58:36 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL GENERAL PROVIDING AN
06:58:39 EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:58:39 AND THIS ORDINANCE WHICH IS REZ 19-95 MEETS THE BURDEN OF
06:58:46 PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT SUB EVIDENCE TO THE
06:58:50 DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:58:53 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF CITY CODE.
06:58:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:58:57 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:58:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
06:59:00 I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S SH-CG, BUT I HAVE A
06:59:06 FEELING THAT'S A EUCLIDEAN, NOT A SITE PLAN ZONE?
06:59:11 OTHERWISE, WOULD WE SEE A SITE PLAN?
06:59:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, IT'S A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, STATED
06:59:18 THAT THERE'S NO SITE PLAN TO REVIEW.
06:59:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CORRECT WHAT I SAID.
06:59:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK --
06:59:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:59:28 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:59:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:59:32 ANY OPPOSED?
06:59:33 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:59:34 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON DECEMBER 5 AT
06:59:38 9:30 A.M.
06:59:39 >>LUIS VIERA: WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:59:41 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 7 IS REZ 19-96, A REZONING
06:59:46 REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3221 WEST PAXTON AVENUE FROM
06:59:51 RS-60 TO RS-50.
06:59:54 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION, IN THE NEW SOUTH
06:59:59 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT WITHIN THE GANDY SOUTH
07:00:04 NEIGHBORHOOD, A LEVEL B EVACUATION ZONE.
07:00:08 THERE IS AN ERROR ON OUR STAFF REPORT THAT I NEED TO
07:00:11 CORRECT ON THE RECORD.
07:00:12 WE STATE THAT THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS
07:00:15 THE CLIFTON TENNIS CENTER BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SKY VIEW
07:00:19 PARK.
07:00:21 THAT WAS AN ERROR IN THE REPORT.
07:00:23 SO THIS IS WEST PAXTON AVENUE.
07:00:27 THIS AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES DETACHED, MacDILL
07:00:31 AVENUE IS RIGHT OVER HERE, AND THEN GANDY TO THE NORTH.
07:00:37 SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, AND IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE
07:00:40 BECAUSE IT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL 10.
07:00:42 THAT IS YOUR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED LAND USE DESIGNATION
07:00:46 AND SURROUNDING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:00:47 IF I WAS TO ZOOM OUT EVEN MORE THERE WOULD BE SOME
07:00:50 COMMERCIAL PROBABLY ALONG MacDILL AND GANDY, BUT THAT
07:00:53 WAS A LITTLE FAR FOR THE VIEW FINDER.
07:00:58 WE DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:01:01 THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR AN OVERALL DENSITY OF THE
07:01:04 SUBJECT SITE AT 7.14 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT
07:01:08 WITH THAT DENSITY UNDER RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE 10
07:01:12 DRESS IG NATION WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 10.
07:01:15 FURTHERMORE WE DID FIND THAT THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR
07:01:17 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS FORM HEIGHT AND SCALE RESIDENTIAL USE
07:01:22 AS LONG THIS PORTION OF WEST PAXTON STREET AND ALSO
07:01:25 SUPPORTS MANY OF OUR POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:01:28 AS IT RELATES TO HAVING THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION.
07:01:32 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:01:34 THANK YOU.
07:01:34 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING SO THEY ARE
07:01:41 REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 TO RS-50.
07:01:45 THE PROPERTY AGAIN IS 3221 WEST PAXTON AVENUE WEST, WEST
07:01:52 PAXTON AVENUE.
07:01:53 FOR CONSIDERATION OF CHANGING ZONING FROM RS-50 TO RS-60
07:01:59 OR FOR ANY REZONING WHERE WE ARE REDUCING THE MINIMUM LOT
07:02:02 WIDTHS, WE DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE LOT WIDTHS IN THE
07:02:06 SURROUNDING NINE-BLOCK STUDY AREA.
07:02:10 THE DATA FOR THE POLICY 9.3.8 IS FOUND ON PAGE 3 OF YOUR
07:02:16 STAFF REPORT.
07:02:17 FOR THIS STUDY AREA, IT'S A TOTAL OF 181 LOTS WERE
07:02:21 REVIEWED.
07:02:23 57 OF WHICH HAVE A LOT WIDTH OF 60 OR WIDER WHICH IS THE
07:02:28 MINIMUM LOT SIDE OF THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT.
07:02:30 PURSUANT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, THE SUBJECT
07:02:35 BLOCK, WHICH IS THIS SUBJECT BLOCK, HAS A TOTAL OF 18
07:02:38 LOTS, 50 PERCENT OF THOSE LOTS ARE 60 FEET OR GREATER
07:02:43 ALREADY.
07:02:44 3200 BLOCK OF THE AVENUE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WERE
07:02:49 EVALUATED, AND 88% OF THOSE LOTS WERE 60 FEET OR WIDER AS
07:02:57 WELL, AND AS FAR AS THE SUBJECT BLOCK FACE, ALL OF THE
07:03:02 LOTS ARE AT LEAST 60 FEET WIDE.
07:03:05 BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE OVERALL STUDY
07:03:07 AREA, THE BLOCK, THE 3200 BLOCK ON BOTH SIDES AND THE
07:03:15 BLOCK FACE, ALL OF THOSE HAVE A CONSISTENT PATTERN OF
07:03:17 BLOCKS AT LEAST 60 FEET WIDE OR WIDER.
07:03:20 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FOUND
07:03:25 50-FOOT LOTS WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING
07:03:29 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
07:03:30 SAYING THAT, THERE WERE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER
07:03:32 STAFF MEMBERS, AND SO OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
07:03:36 COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND THIS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF
07:03:39 THE INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
07:03:47 PATTERN.
07:03:48 ANY QUESTIONS?
07:03:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
07:03:50 APPLICANT?
07:03:51 >> PHIL HOUSTON. OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS.
07:04:00 SHE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING THAT HAD TO BE SAID.
07:04:05 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:04:10 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ELSE, SIR?
07:04:11 >> NO.
07:04:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
07:04:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:04:15 WE APPRECIATE IT.
07:04:17 ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 7?
07:04:19 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
07:04:22 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:04:23 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:04:25 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
07:04:28 ANY OPPOSED?
07:04:29 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE TAKING
07:04:32 ITEM NUMBER 7?
07:04:34 I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:04:37 GO AHEAD.
07:04:38 >> FILE REZ 19-96.
07:04:44 [OFF MICROPHONE] AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
07:04:45 READING CONSIDERATION REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
07:04:48 VICINITY OF 3221 WEST PAXTON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
07:04:51 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
07:04:55 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
07:04:57 TO RES 50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN
07:05:02 EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PETITIONER HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF
07:05:06 PROVIDING COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO THE ZONING
07:05:09 CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:05:13 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION.
07:05:13 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:05:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION.
07:05:22 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MOTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR ANY
07:05:26 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT A LOT SPLIT,
07:05:31 EXCEPT THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 16 YEARS.
07:05:36 THE STAFF HAS GONE TO GREAT TROUBLE TO ANALYZE THE
07:05:43 NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:05:46 THEY ALL HAVE THE VERY COLORFUL MAP IN FRONT OF US TO
07:05:49 ANALYZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO EVALUATE IF THE BLOCK FACE,
07:05:56 VIRGINIA PARK, THERE WOULD BE 30 PEOPLE HERE BUT FOR
07:06:01 WHATEVER, GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH I GUESS IS NOT HERE TO
07:06:05 OBJECT, BUT I DON'T -- I STILL DON'T THINK THAT MEANS WE
07:06:09 DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT THE SAME KIND OF ATTENTION.
07:06:14 AS SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER, YOUNG LADY, ACTUALLY WAS FROM
07:06:17 VIRGINIA PARK, SHE SAID IF WE HAVE A ZONING CODE, WHY
07:06:22 AREN'T WE STICKING WITH IT?
07:06:23 UNLESS THERE IS COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO TELL
07:06:25 USE WE AREN'T STICKING WITH IT.
07:06:29 SO AGAIN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, TO THE MAKER OF THE
07:06:33 MOTION AND THE SECOND, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
07:06:36 I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE WHAT I MISSED.
07:06:40 THIS ENTIRE BLOCK FACE IS TESTIFIED TO BY OUR LAND USE
07:06:44 EXPERT, MARY, ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT THIS
07:06:49 GENTLEMAN IS ON IS ALL RED, WHICH IS BETWEEN LOOKS LIKE
07:06:55 80 TO 99 FEET AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET IS THE LIGHT
07:06:59 YELLOW WHICH IS BETWEEN 60 AND 64 FEET.
07:07:02 NO WHERE NEAR THE 50-FOOT LOTS THAT HE'S ASKING FOR.
07:07:07 SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
07:07:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
07:07:09 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:07:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE FOR CLARITY HERE.
07:07:13 I'M LOOKING AT BLUE.
07:07:14 MAYBE THERE'S TWO COLOR BLUES HERE BUT I ONLY SEE ONE
07:07:17 COLOR.
07:07:18 MAYBE ONE EYE SEES DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER.
07:07:21 ON THE STREETS --
07:07:25 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY INTERRUPT YOU.
07:07:26 I HAVE TO GET A MOTION TO OPEN.
07:07:27 >> SO MOVED.
07:07:31 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN BY COUNCILMAN
07:07:32 CITRO. SECONDED I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:07:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:07:36 ANY OPPOSED?
07:07:37 GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:07:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:07:42 SHE GAVE AN ANALYSIS OF THE WHOLE AREA, THE WHOLE BLOCK.
07:07:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
07:07:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN I LOOK AT CHEROKEE AVENUE, THOSE
07:07:51 LOTS ARE LITTLE 50-FOOT LOTS IN BLUE?
07:07:57 >> NO, THOSE ARE LOTS THAT ARE BETWEEN 50 AND 59-FOOT
07:08:03 WIDE.
07:08:06 >> AND THE ONES ON --
07:08:09 >> THOSE ARE 55 TO 59.
07:08:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THE SECOND ROW
07:08:17 FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, THERE'S A BLUE -- NO, FURTHER UP IN
07:08:20 THE CHART.
07:08:21 IN THE CHART.
07:08:23 RIGHT THERE.
07:08:24 50 TO 54.
07:08:27 81%.
07:08:28 IS THAT WHERE THAT IS?
07:08:32 RIGHT THERE.
07:08:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, I SEE IT, SIR.
07:08:35 WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION?
07:08:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] IF ALL THAT IS 50
07:08:41 AND UP, 50 TO 54, YOU SAID 81% OR MORE. 50 TO 54, AM I
07:08:44 CORRECT?
07:08:45 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
07:08:47 THESE ARE ALL THE MAJORITY OVER IN THIS AREA.
07:08:58 AND HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
07:08:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M FURTHER CONFUSED.
07:09:05 BECAUSE IF WE USE LOOKING AT SIX BLOCKS, THEN WE OUGHT TO
07:09:10 LIMIT IT TO JUST THAT ONE BLOCK, IN MY OPINION.
07:09:12 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: LOOKING AT THE NINE BLOCK STUDY AREA
07:09:15 AS WELL AS THE BLOCK ON EITHER SIDE AND THE BLOCK FACE IN
07:09:19 ALL FOUR OF THOSE CONSIDERATION IT?
07:09:25 IN THE OVERALL FINDING.
07:09:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
07:09:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THEN
07:09:31 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:09:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] I APPRECIATE YOU
07:09:41 LOOKING AT THE LARGER AREA.
07:09:42 BUT WHAT I AM FOCUSING ON HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON
07:09:46 PAXTON, AND THE REDS THAT ARE NEXT TO IT UP AND DOWN
07:09:49 PAXTON, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM PAXTON IS STILL
07:09:54 AT LEAST 60 TO 64 DEPENDING ON WHICH COLOR IT IS.
07:09:59 SO THAT IMMEDIATE BLOCK ON BOTH SIDES IS NOT CONSISTENT.
07:10:03 AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND THIS
07:10:09 DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
07:10:10 UP AT THE TOP, MARY, IT SAYS 60 TO 64, ZERO PERCENT, EVEN
07:10:17 THOUGH THERE'S 67 PARCELS.
07:10:18 THAT MUST BE A TYPO.
07:10:19 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IT IS.
07:10:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
07:10:24 SO WE SHOULDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE PERCENTAGES
07:10:26 BECAUSE THEY LOOK WRONG.
07:10:28 PROBABLY THE QUANTITY OF LOTS IS PROBABLY CORRECT.
07:10:32 BUT THE PERCENTAGES LOOK REALLY WRONG.
07:10:42 AT LEAST THAT ONE.
07:10:44 EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY 76 OF THE LOTS, THAT MAP DOESN'T
07:10:47 ADD UP EITHER.
07:10:49 SO --
07:10:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHE DIDN'T DO THE MAP, I'M SURE.
07:10:53 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, I DON'T DO THE MAP.
07:10:56 I USE MY OWN CALCULATIONS.
07:10:58 I DO EACH INDIVIDUALLY.
07:11:00 I DO MY OWN.
07:11:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS
07:11:03 THE DOCUMENT THAT'S GOING INTO THE RECORD SO I JUST WANT
07:11:06 TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE
07:11:08 PERCENTAGES, BECAUSE THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE CLEARLY, AS A
07:11:11 FORMER MATH TEACHER, I WOULD SAY THEY ARE WRONG.
07:11:21 >>LUIS VIERA: TO LET THE PETITIONER KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE
07:11:22 ADDITIONAL TIME BECAUSE YOU USED UP 20 SECONDS OF YOUR
07:11:25 TIME, SO I WILL GIVE YOU MORE THAN AMPLE TIME AFTER THIS
07:11:28 TO RESPONSE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, SIR.
07:11:30 THANK YOU.
07:11:31 GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:11:33 ANYONE ELSE?
07:11:35 OKAY.
07:11:35 PETITIONER, YOU MAY COME FORWARD, SIR.
07:11:38 YOU HAVE YOUR TIME.
07:11:40 AND MR. CREW, HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE HAVE LEFT OVER?
07:11:46 >>THE CLERK: ABOUT 14 MINUTES.
07:11:48 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THIS GENTLEMAN WITH YOU, WHO IS THIS
07:11:50 GENTLEMAN?
07:11:51 >> THIS IS MY FATHER.
07:11:52 >>LUIS VIERA: AND ARE YOU LOOKING -- WHAT'S YOUR NAME,
07:11:58 SIR?
07:11:59 >> HOUSTON, JR., AND THIS IS PHIL SENIOR.
07:12:04 >>LUIS VIERA: AND YOU OWN THE PROPERTY, SIR?
07:12:06 I MEAN THE FATHER DOES.
07:12:07 SO YOU GUYS HAVE PLENTY OF TIME IF YOU WISH TO JOINTLY
07:12:11 SPEAK.
07:12:11 BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK FIRST IS THAT YOU, SIR, SPEAK AND
07:12:14 THEN YOUR FATHER SPEAK AFTERWARDS SO THAT YOU IDENTIFY
07:12:17 YOURSELF, FIRST STATE YOUR NAME, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, AND
07:12:20 THEN GO FORWARD.
07:12:21 >> PHILLIPS HOUSTON, JR., ONE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
07:12:26 THE REASON WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE ZONING IS ME AND MY
07:12:28 WIFE, SHE'S ALSO ON THE PROPERTY.
07:12:30 WE HAD IT FOR 16, 19 YEARS, AND WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A
07:12:33 HOUSE ON.
07:12:34 THE PLAN IS TO TAKE IT AND BUILD ON ONE SECTION OF THE
07:12:38 50-FOOT LOTS.
07:12:40 AND THEY NEED TO SELL THE LOT OR BUILD ON THAT ONE THERE,
07:12:43 YOU KNOW, TO FINANCE THE PROJECT.
07:12:45 ON THIS HERE, THIS IS THE PROPERTY.
07:12:48 YOU CAN SEE 3221 IS, WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS.
07:12:52 AND HOUSES BEHIND IT ARE ALL 50-FOOT LOTS.
07:12:56 WHAT WE ALSO FOUND OUT IS IN THIS SAME AREA THAT RS 60
07:13:02 HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED TO 50, SO MY ADDRESS IS 34212,
07:13:06 3214 AND 16 HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED FROM RS-60.
07:13:16 PEARL, 3109 AND 3111 HAVE BEEN CHANGED.
07:13:20 SO THIS IS TWO 50-FOOT LOTS THAT'S 100 BY 125 SO WE ARE
07:13:24 TRYING TO JUST GET WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:13:29 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
07:13:32 >> I DON'T THINK SO.
07:13:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR FATHER IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, SIR, YOU
07:13:36 MAY.
07:13:36 DO YOU?
07:13:37 >> I'M GOOD, YES, SIR.
07:13:41 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ELSE, SIR?
07:13:43 I MEAN FOR YOU?
07:13:44 JUST MAKING SURE.
07:13:45 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
07:13:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:13:49 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:13:51 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:13:53 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:13:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:13:56 ANY OPPOSED?
07:13:57 OKAY.
07:13:57 I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CITRUS, A
07:14:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:14:03 DO YOU STAND BY THAT MOTION?
07:14:04 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:14:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I AM A LITTLE TORN BECAUSE THIS
07:14:10 TIME I HEARD SOME EVIDENCE.
07:14:12 WHETHER OR NOT IT'S COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, I
07:14:13 GUESS WE ALL HAVE TO DECIDE.
07:14:15 BUT I APPRECIATE THE PROPERTY OWNER COMING UP AND GIVING
07:14:18 US A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
07:14:21 AND I REALIZE YOU DON'T DO THIS FOR A LIVING AND I
07:14:24 APOLOGIZE FOR SOUNDING CRITICAL.
07:14:28 YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A TOUGH ONE, BECAUSE IT HAS
07:14:31 BEEN POINTED OUT, NOW I DO SEE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, AT
07:14:36 LEAST FOUR DIFFERENT REZONINGS WITHIN SIX BLOCKS THAT
07:14:40 HAVE GONE FROM THE RS-60 TO RS-50 AS POINTED OUT BY THE
07:14:46 PETITIONER.
07:14:46 I IMAGINE THAT'S PROBABLY PERHAPS THE FUTURE OF THIS
07:14:50 NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:14:53 IT DOES CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT, AND I GUESS I'LL THINK
07:14:57 ON IT.
07:14:58 SO THANK YOU.
07:14:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:15:00 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE?
07:15:02 OKAY.
07:15:02 WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
07:15:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:15:04 ANY OPPOSED?
07:15:05 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:15:10 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON DECEMBER 5th
07:15:13 AT 9:30 A.M.
07:15:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:15:16 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
07:15:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 8 IS REZ 19-24.
07:15:34 THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM RM-24 TO CI TO PLANNED
07:15:38 DEVELOPMENT.
07:15:39 THIS WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD AND APPROVED --
07:15:45 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE YOU GO, I APOLOGIZE.
07:15:46 WE HAVE TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
07:15:49 WE WILL BE BACK IN FIVE MINUTES.
07:15:54 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).
07:15:57
07:32:30 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
07:32:31 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL IS BACK FROM RECESS.
07:32:34 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
07:32:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:32:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
07:32:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
07:32:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
07:32:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
07:32:43 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
07:32:45 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
07:32:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECESS.
07:32:48 WE HAD SOME INTERNAL HOUSEKEEPING WE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF.
07:32:50 YOU MAY PROCEED.
07:32:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 8 WHICH IS REZ
07:32:54 19' 24, AS I WAS EXPLAINING BEFORE THE RECESS, THIS
07:32:57 APPLICANT WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD AND APPROVED AND THE USES
07:33:02 WERE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL
07:33:04 RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY.
07:33:05 THE APPLICANT HAS ELECTED TO CHANGE THE USES TO BUSINESS
07:33:10 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND EMERGENCY SHELTER FACILITY.
07:33:16 SAYING THAT, THE MAKEUP OF THE SITE PLAN HAS REMAINED THE
07:33:20 SAME.
07:33:21 THERE ARE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING TO THE
07:33:25 LOCATION OF THE DUMPSTER AS WELL AS TO TRANSPORTATION.
07:33:32 MASTER RESOURCES NOTES, TRANSPORTATION DID FIND THIS
07:33:35 INCONSISTENT BECAUSE THERE'S AN 18% PARKING WAIVER
07:33:38 REDUCTION, AND PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:33:42 COORDINATION ALSO FINDS THIS INCONSISTENT.
07:33:45 SAYING THAT, IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE,
07:33:49 THERE IS A REVISION SHEET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND
07:33:51 OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF FOR THE
07:33:53 RECORD HAS FOUND THIS INCONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE
07:33:56 SECTIONS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
07:33:59 REGULATIONS.
07:34:00 PLEASE REFERENCE THE FINDINGS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT
07:34:02 PROVIDED FROM TRANSPORTATION FOR LOCAL STREET ACCESS AND
07:34:05 PARKING REDUCTION, AND THE PLANNING DESIGN AND
07:34:09 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:34:10 THANK YOU.
07:34:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:34:14 NEXT.
07:34:15 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
07:34:17 I WILL BE BRIEF.
07:34:21 YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PREVIOUSLY.
07:34:22 IT WAS THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
07:34:27 ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE.
07:34:31 IT IS COMMERCIAL 35.
07:34:33 ALONG NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
07:34:35 THE DARK BROWN COLOR IS MIXED USE 100 OVERHEAR.
07:34:41 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT, ONCE
07:34:44 AGAIN, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:34:48 [RUSTLING PAPERS] WE DID FIND WHILE THE PLAN SPEAKS TO
07:34:52 PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR EMERGENCY
07:34:55 SHELTERS AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WE FOUND THIS WOULD NOT
07:34:57 BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT POLICY BECAUSE THIS IS STILL
07:35:01 PROVIDING FOR THAT EXCESSIVE CONCENTRATION, AND IT WOULD
07:35:06 NOT BE PROVIDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THAT WOULD BE
07:35:10 POLICY HFG 1.1, 1.2, AND AGAIN THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH
07:35:15 THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:35:17 THANK YOU.
07:35:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:35:19 DO WE HAVE THE PETITIONER?
07:35:26 >>TRUETT GARDNER: 401 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
07:35:28 I AM CALLING THIS OUR SECOND FIRST READING, AND WE WENT
07:35:31 THROUGH THE DETAILS BEFORE BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE
07:35:33 HELPFUL JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW.
07:35:36 WE WERE LAST IN FRONT OF YOU THREE MONTHS AGO, RECEIVED A
07:35:39 6-1 VOTE OF APPROVAL, WITH MR. DINGFELDER VOTING AGAINST
07:35:44 IT.
07:35:46 NOT ON YOUR BEHALF, JOHN, BUT WE HAVE ANSWERED WAY THINK
07:35:49 WAS YOUR CONCERN.
07:35:51 AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW, EVERYTHING
07:35:55 OUTLINED IN RED ARE SALVATION ARMY'S HOLDINGS IN THIS
07:36:00 AREA.
07:36:03 AND JUST TO ORIENT YOU, THIS IS FLORIDA RUNNING NORTH.
07:36:05 THIS IS FRANKLIN RUNNING NORTH.
07:36:07 YOU SEE OAK HERE.
07:36:10 AND THIS IS IN THIS CORNER HERE IS 275 WRAPPING AROUND.
07:36:17 SO IF YOU RECALL FROM BEFORE, WHAT THE SALVATION ARMY IS
07:36:21 TRYING TO DO IS CONSOLIDATE ITS PROPERTIES INTO ONE.
07:36:24 AND SO ONE CHALLENGE FROM THE LAST TIME IS THIS PROPERTY
07:36:28 UNDER HERE IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR SALE AS WELL AS THIS
07:36:32 PROPERTY HERE.
07:36:34 AND THEN NOW FOCUSING ON THESE PROPERTIES, THIS PROPERTY
07:36:38 RIGHT HERE IS THE EXISTING RED SHIELD LODGE, AND THEN
07:36:41 THIS IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS 16033rd FLORIDA WHICH IS
07:36:46 WHERE THEIR CURRENT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES.
07:36:48 THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE RED SHIELD
07:36:50 LODGE AND THIS PROPERTY HERE.
07:36:52 AND WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO, WHICH I BELIEVE AND WE
07:36:56 GOT INTO THIS LAST TIME, THE GATES, THE CONCERN OF THE
07:36:59 PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THEY ARE LOOKING AT THIS IN A
07:37:02 VACUUM OF HAVING THE BED COUNT OF THE EXISTING RED SHIELD
07:37:05 LODGE AGGREGATED TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE.
07:37:08 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS FOR THE EXISTING RED SHIELD
07:37:10 LODGE TO DISAPPEAR.
07:37:13 ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WOULD MOVE TO 1603, WOULD BE
07:37:18 CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE FACILITY, WHICH THIS IS THE IMAGE
07:37:22 OF IT.
07:37:23 IT WOULD BE GATED.
07:37:24 IT WOULD BE SECURE.
07:37:26 AND WOULD TAKE AWAY THE NEED FOR THE BACK AND FORTH
07:37:28 BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.
07:37:33 THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
07:37:34 THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE CHANGE, YOU WILL RECALL AT THE
07:37:37 LAST HEARING -- AND THIS WAS NO FAULT OF THE CITY AT ALL,
07:37:42 ACTUALLY MS. MOREDA WHEN SHE WAS HERE INSTRUCTED US THAT
07:37:44 WE WOULD NEED TO ASK FOR A PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL
07:37:47 TREATMENT FACILITY.
07:37:48 AND IN ORDER TO FIT THIS NEED.
07:37:50 THE PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS IT ALLOWS DRUG ALCOHOL REHAB,
07:37:54 WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SALVATION ARMY DOES,
07:37:57 ESPECIALLY ON THIS PROPERTY, NOR HAS ANY INTENT TO DO,
07:38:00 BUT THE WAY THE APPROVAL WAS BEFORE, IT GRANTED THAT
07:38:03 RIGHT.
07:38:04 SO THAT LED TO SOME DISCOMFORT FROM MR. DINGFELDER, BUT
07:38:07 ALSO FROM THE RESIDENTS AFTER OUR FIRST READING, EVEN
07:38:10 THOUGH WE WERE APPROVED.
07:38:12 WE MET WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS, DUG INTO THE CODE, AND
07:38:15 IRONICALLY WE FOUND THERE IS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER
07:38:18 FACILITY DEFINITION, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE.
07:38:22 IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHAB, BUT
07:38:25 IT'S NOT IN THE USE CODE, SO WE WORKED WITH CITY LEGAL
07:38:29 AND BASICALLY USING THE PD PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET THAT
07:38:33 USE, WHICH THEN TAKES AWAY THE NEED FOR THE PROFESSIONAL
07:38:36 RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY, AND ITS ABILITY TO HAVE
07:38:39 DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHAB.
07:38:40 SO THAT'S THE CHANGE.
07:38:43 WITH THAT, CAPTAIN MILLER IS HERE.
07:38:46 HE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK TO WHAT THIS MEANS FOR
07:38:49 SALVATION ARMY, AND WE WOULD ASK INFORM YOUR APPROVAL
07:38:52 AGAIN JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME.
07:38:54 THANK YOU.
07:38:54 >> CAPTAIN ANDY MILLER, 1603 NORTH FLORIDA WITH SALVATION
07:38:58 ARMY.
07:38:59 THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
07:38:59 WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
07:39:01 AND AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF
07:39:04 CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD INDEED BE DOING
07:39:07 WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO AND NOT HAVE A DRUG AND ALCOHOL
07:39:09 TREATMENT CENTER, AND WE DECIDED TO TAKE FOUR MONTHS OFF
07:39:12 OF OUR PROJECT TO NARROW THAT FOCUS HERE SO THAT WE CAN
07:39:15 ENSURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORS AND YOU KNOW THAT WE MEAN WHAT
07:39:19 WE SAY, AND WE ARE GLAD TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
07:39:22 THE SALVATION ARMY HAS BEEN SERVING IN TAMPA FOR 126
07:39:25 YEARS.
07:39:26 INITIALLY WE STARTED RATE HERE ON THIS PROPERTY.
07:39:28 YOU CAN SEE A GREEN SIGN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HERE,
07:39:31 SALVATION ARMY STARTING HERE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
07:39:34 WE HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE ARE IN NOW FOR OVER
07:39:38 75 YEARS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SERVE OUR
07:39:41 COMMUNITY AS WE CONTINUE TO FACILITATE OUR MISSION,
07:39:43 PREACH THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE HUMAN NEEDS IN
07:39:46 HIS NAME WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION, AND WE ARE THE ONLY
07:39:49 EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR SINGLE MEN AND WOMEN, AND WE
07:39:52 BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT BETTER IF WE HAVE A BETTER
07:39:54 FACILITY, AND WE THINK WE CAN RAISE THE FUNDS TO MAKE
07:39:57 THIS HAPPEN.
07:39:58 SO AGAIN, WE ARE GLAD TO NARROW OUR FOCUS HERE, AND
07:40:02 NARROW THE USAGE TO BE AN EMERGENCY SHELTER AND HOPEFULLY
07:40:05 THIS WILL REASSURE OUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAD CONCERNS THAT WE
07:40:08 ARE TRYING TO DO THE MOST GOOD FOR THEM.
07:40:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:40:13 ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE PETITIONER?
07:40:20 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I WOULD ADD THE ISSUE OF DENSITY
07:40:22 ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO BED COUNT CAME UP THE LAST
07:40:24 TIME.
07:40:26 AND JUST TO GO OVER THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS A
07:40:30 INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT THIS IS AN INCREASE.
07:40:33 IT'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE.
07:40:34 AT THE EXISTING RED SHIELD LODGE ...
07:40:41 [NO ENCODER]
07:40:42 [NO ENCODER]
07:40:48 THAT SAID, ONE MORE NUANCE TO IT.
07:40:50 ONLY 120 BEDS ARE TO BE UTILIZED, THAT 1272 NUMBER IS
07:40:56 JUST IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE, SOME OTHER NATURAL
07:41:00 DISASTER.
07:41:01 I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT POINT AGAIN SINCE IT WAS
07:41:03 RAISED BEFORE.
07:41:05 THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
07:41:06 THANK YOU.
07:41:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
07:41:07 WE APPRECIATE IT.
07:41:08 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
07:41:10 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CITY DID
07:41:12 NOT REQUEST A CHANGE FROM THE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL
07:41:16 FACILITY TO THE EMERGENCY SHELTER.
07:41:18 IN FACT THE FACILITY PASSED 6-1 ON FIRST READING.
07:41:23 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY CURBS ABOUT THE TREATMENT
07:41:25 FACILITIES THAT WERE RAISED BY THE PUBLIC ARE NOT DUE TO
07:41:28 CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL DID NOT REQUEST THIS
07:41:30 CHANGE.
07:41:30 >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE IT.
07:41:31 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:41:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. KERT, JUST FOR CLARITY, WHAT IS
07:41:38 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT
07:41:42 FACILITY AND EMERGENCY SHELTER FACILITY, FROM THE CODE'S
07:41:46 PERSPECTIVE?
07:41:48 >>REBECCA KERT: THE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
07:41:49 DOES ALLOW FOR THIS ADDITIONAL TREATMENT, BUT I JUST
07:41:52 WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT IS A CHANGE IN THE
07:41:55 REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT.
07:41:56 IT IS NOT A REQUEST THAT WAS REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
07:42:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RATE.
07:42:00 I HEARD YOU SAY THAT.
07:42:01 MY QUESTION IS NOTHING RELATED TO THAT.
07:42:03 MY QUESTION IS IN THE CODE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
07:42:06 THESE TWO CATEGORIES?
07:42:08 >>REBECCA KERT: I AM GOING TO ASK MRS. SAMANIEGO TO
07:42:12 EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE.
07:42:13 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: [RUSTLING PAPERS] I HAVE NOT MEMORIZED
07:42:30 THE DEFINITIONS BUT THE APPLICANT HAS GIVEN ME A COPY IN
07:42:33 THE CODE, PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY IS
07:42:36 A RESIDENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT OTHER THAN A HOSPITAL OR
07:42:38 NURSING HOME PROVIDING RELATIVELY DIAGNOSTIC OR THERAPY
07:42:43 PEWS U PUTT I CAN SERVICES FOR ONE OR MORE RESIDENTS,
07:42:47 WHEREAS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER IS PROVIDING TEMPORARY
07:42:50 FACILITY HOUSING ROOMING AND DORMITORY STYLE WITH OR
07:42:53 WITHOUT BOARDING FOR PERSONS OTHERWISE HOMELESS OR
07:42:55 SEEKING SHELTER.
07:43:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:43:05 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER?
07:43:06 NEXT WE MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:43:08 IF ANYONE IS HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 8,
07:43:10 THIS IS YOUR TIME.
07:43:11 PLEASE COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
07:43:14 IS ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 8?
07:43:16 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:43:18 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
07:43:19 MANISCALCO.
07:43:20 A SECOND I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:43:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:43:24 ANY OPPOSED?
07:43:25 OKAY.
07:43:28 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:43:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
07:43:40 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
07:43:43 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1603 NORTH FLORIDA
07:43:46 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
07:43:48 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:43:51 CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND RM-24
07:43:54 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
07:43:57 BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND EMERGENCY SHELTER
07:44:00 FACILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:44:01 AND I SEE THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF
07:44:08 TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE AND SHOWN ON
07:44:10 THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:44:12 AND CITY CODE.
07:44:15 >> SECOND.
07:44:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A REVISION SHEET WITH
07:44:19 THIS?
07:44:20 INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
07:44:22 THAT'S IT.
07:44:23 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:44:25 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY
07:44:28 OPPOSED?
07:44:28 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:44:33 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON DECEMBER 5th
07:44:36 AT 9:30 A.M.
07:44:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:44:38 WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
07:44:41 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO.
07:44:42 ITEM NUMBER 9.
07:44:46 ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ 19-72.
07:44:48 IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FOR 3704 WEST EUCLID AVENUE FROM
07:44:54 RO-1 TO PD TO ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS
07:44:58 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, CLUB, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY,
07:45:02 BANK, CATERING SHOP, PHARMACY.
07:45:04 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:45:16 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:45:18 LEVEL B EVACUATION ZONE.
07:45:21 HART ROUTE 36 AND 19 FOR THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:45:28 THIS IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
07:45:30 THIS IS -- I HAVE SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
07:45:34 THIS
07:45:36 IS BRITTON PLAZA CENTER.
07:45:38 THERE'S SHOPPING IN HERE.
07:45:40 THERE'S A MARSHALLS AND THEN A PUBLIX OVER THIS WAY.
07:45:43 AND THEN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE NORTH.
07:45:46 THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 20
07:45:49 WHICH DOES ALLOW SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE USE, FOR
07:45:53 THESE NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
07:45:55 TO THE SOUTH IN THE RED IS A COMMERCIAL 35.
07:45:58 TO THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
07:46:00 AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALONG
07:46:03 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
07:46:04 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
07:46:06 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:46:08 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 CATEGORY ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF THESE
07:46:11 NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
07:46:14 IT MEETS LOCATIONAL CRITERIA WHICH THIS DOES BECAUSE IT
07:46:17 HAS ACCESS ON EUCLID.
07:46:19 IT IS A COLLECTOR ROADWAY AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
07:46:22 REQUIREMENTS.
07:46:22 WE ALSO FOUND THAT IT IS ADJACENT TO SEVERAL PROFESSIONAL
07:46:24 OFFICES ALONG THIS PORTION OF WEST EUCLID AS WELL, AND
07:46:30 FITS THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
07:46:31 AND THAT'S ALL FOR MY PRESENTATION.
07:46:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
07:46:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: AGAIN THIS PROPERTY IS AT 3704 WEST
07:46:44 EUCLID AVENUE.
07:46:45 IT'S PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT ON KIND OF IN FRONT OF BRITTON
07:46:48 PLAZA.
07:46:50 HERE IS A MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
07:46:53 CURRENTLY IT'S AN EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICE.
07:46:57 WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO -- AND I WILL SHOW
07:46:59 YOU THE SITE PLAN -- IS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING
07:47:02 AND BUILD A NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
07:47:05 SO HERE IS BRITTON PLAZA. HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
07:47:08 ZONED RO-1 AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.
07:47:15 GOING ACROSS EUCLID, AND RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THEN
07:47:19 FURTHER OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
07:47:23 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
07:47:34 AS I STATED, EVERYTHING ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY WILL BE
07:47:36 DEMOLISHED, AND THIS IS THE PROPOSAL FOR RECONSTRUCTION.
07:47:41 IT'S A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH ALLOWABLE USES
07:47:45 AGAIN OF MEDICAL OFFICES, BUSINESS OFFICE CLUB, PLACE OF
07:47:49 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, BANK, PHARMACY OR ANY COMBINATION
07:47:55 THEREOF PROVIDING THAT PARKING IS MET.
07:47:56 STAFF REVIEWED THE PARKING BASED ON A COURTS CASE
07:48:00 SCENARIO, AND ALL PARKING IS IN COMPLAINS, THEY HAVE
07:48:03 REQUIRED ALL THE REQUIRED GREEN SPACE, VEHICLE USE AREA
07:48:06 BUFFERS, AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE GRAND TREE PROTECTION ON
07:48:10 THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE LOT.
07:48:13 BASED ON, AS JENNIFER STATED, THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE
07:48:17 REQUEST FOR THE COMBINATION OF USES, A PD APPLICATION IS
07:48:23 NECESSARY TO REVIEW IT.
07:48:26 AS YOU WILL SEE ON PAGE 3 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, BECAUSE
07:48:32 IT'S AN R-20 LAND USE CATEGORY, THE MEDICAL USE CRITERIA
07:48:37 HAS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITHIN THIS PD.
07:48:39 A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS
07:48:41 CRITERIA.
07:48:43 AGAIN IN THE STAFF REPORT BOTH OF THOSE MEDICAL OFFICE
07:48:45 CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET.
07:48:47 THE ONLY WAIVER THAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS THROUGH THIS PD
07:48:49 PROCESS IS ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET.
07:48:53 THIS SECTION OF SOUTH STERLING STREET FROM EUCLID THAT
07:48:56 GOES INTO THE PARKING LOT OF BRITTON PLAZA IS
07:48:59 CROSS-PLATTED --
07:49:03 BECAUSE OF THAT, AND THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ZONED
07:49:06 ACROSS THE STREET.
07:49:07 BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE'S A TECHNICAL STANDARD THAT SAYS
07:49:09 THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE NONRESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO LOCAL
07:49:13 STREETS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
07:49:18 SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR THAT ONE WAIVER.
07:49:21 OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND
07:49:26 SECOND READING FROM PLANNING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT
07:49:29 COORDINATION.
07:49:30 TRANSPORTATION DID FIND THAT WAIVER REQUEST INCONSISTENT,
07:49:32 THE ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET.
07:49:34 TRANSPORTATION IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
07:49:36 THEM.
07:49:36 NATURAL RESOURCES FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COUPLE
07:49:40 CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND STORMWATER
07:49:43 HAS SOME MODIFICATIONS.
07:49:45 BUT OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF
07:49:48 HAS FOUND IT'S CONSISTENT BASED ON TRANSPORTATION,
07:49:52 INCONSISTENCY FOR THE ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET.
07:49:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
07:49:56 ANY QUESTIONS?
07:49:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, THIS IS RIGHT BY WHERE I LIVE.
07:50:00 I GO THROUGH THIS AREA EVERY DAY AND I AM NOT BRINGING
07:50:03 EVIDENCE.
07:50:03 BUT THE QUESTION IS, STERLING, I HAVE SEEN THE SIGN.
07:50:09 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL COUNTED AS AN OPEN CITY ROAD?
07:50:14 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
07:50:15 THAT SECTION IS FAIRLY NEW, A LOCAL STREET.
07:50:18 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
07:50:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
07:50:22 THANK YOU.
07:50:23 PETITIONER?
07:50:31 >> GOOD EVENING.
07:50:37 MY NAME IS DEVON DAMON 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE ON BEHALF
07:50:44 OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, EAMMPLLC AND DR. ALBERTO MORALES
07:50:52 REGARDING THE APPLICATION REZ-19-72 FOR REZONING FROM
07:50:56 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE 1 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
07:51:00 HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING ALSO IS MY PARTNER THE LAND
07:51:10 PLANNING CONSULTANT, STEVE HENRY, THE TRANSPORTATION
07:51:12 CONSULTANT, AND GARY OKEE, THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE
07:51:17 PROJECT.
07:51:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE?
07:51:22 >> I'M SORRY.
07:51:23 I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM INTO THE RECORD.
07:51:25 THE QUALIFICATIONS AND WRITTEN REPORT FROM THE
07:51:30 CONSULTANT.
07:51:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL THE CONSULTANTS BE TESTIFYING?
07:51:40 ARE THEY PRESENT?
07:51:42 >> THEY ARE.
07:51:45 WITH REGARD TO CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION, WE ARE
07:51:49 AGREEABLE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS AND ALL
07:51:53 MINOR MODIFICATIONS WILL BE RESOLVED IN THE TIME BETWEEN
07:51:57 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:51:59 AS EXPLAINED BY CITY STAFF, THE RELEVANT -- IS LOCATED IN
07:52:05 THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST EUCLID AVENUE AND SOUTH
07:52:09 STERLING AVENUE IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE SHOPPING CENTER,
07:52:13 BRITTON PLAZA.
07:52:14 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY USED AS MEDICAL OFFICE AND IS
07:52:17 CURRENTLY ZONES RO-1.
07:52:20 THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR
07:52:24 THE PROPERTY FROM RO-1 TO PD IN ORDER TO REDEVELOP THE
07:52:29 EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICE FROM THE EXISTING 1,902 SQUARE
07:52:36 FOOT BIDDING TO A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHILE
07:52:39 PRESERVING THE MEDICAL OFFICE USE ON THE PROPERTY.
07:52:43 JUST TO NOTE, THE PROPOSED FR F.A.R. .18 FALLS WELL BELOW
07:52:48 THE MAXIMUM .5 F.A.R. ALLOWED IN THE APPLICABLE R-20
07:52:55 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
07:52:58 THE EXISTING BUILDING LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT
07:53:01 IN 1950, THAT HAS HAD SEVERAL ADDITIONS OVER THE YEARS.
07:53:06 IT'S AN OUTDATED STRUCTURE WITH LOW CEILINGS AND WINDOWS
07:53:10 ONLY ON ONE SIDE.
07:53:11 THE NEW STRUCTURE WHICH WILL BE MORE SUITABLE FOR PATIENT
07:53:15 CONSULTATION AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY WILL BE MORE
07:53:18 MODERN, MORE SPACIOUS, AND ALSO INCLUDE IMPROVED
07:53:22 TRANSPORTATION FEATURES SUCH AS A SIDEWALK ALONG
07:53:26 STERLING, AND PROVIDED
07:53:30 THE PROPERTY EXISTS IN AN AREA OF TRANSITION FROM
07:53:33 SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL HIGH INTENSITY USES TO THE SOUTH,
07:53:37 BRITTON PLAZA, TO RESIDENTIAL LOW INTENSIVE USES TO THE
07:53:42 NORTH ACROSS EUCLID.
07:53:45 TO THAT END, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER
07:53:49 OF COMPATIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES FOR THE
07:53:52 PROPERTY UNDER THE PD ZONING DESIGNATION.
07:53:58 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN MEETS ALL THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS
07:54:02 AND AS EXPLAINED BY CITY STAFF, ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED
07:54:05 ON A LOCAL ROAD, VIA STERLING.
07:54:09 THIS IS BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO AVOID STOPPING
07:54:12 TRAFFIC ON EUCLID.
07:54:14 CITY TRANSPORTATION STAFF INTERPRETATION THAT THE SEGMENT
07:54:18 OF THE LOCAL ROAD PRIMARILY SERVES COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC AND
07:54:21 THE ANALYSIS PROVIDED BY MR. HENRY WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THAT
07:54:25 THE PROVISION OF ACCESS ON STERLING ALLOWS FOR INGRESS
07:54:31 INTO THE PROPERTY.
07:54:33 UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH A WAIVER, ACCESS
07:54:36 CAN BE PLACED ON THE LOCAL ROAD STERLING INSTEAD OF THE
07:54:39 COLLECTOR EUCLID.
07:54:41 WHEN A LOCAL ROAD PRIMARILY PROVIDES ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL
07:54:45 PROPERTY.
07:54:46 THE RELEVANT PORTION OF STERLING SERVES ONLY COMMERCIAL
07:54:50 TRAFFIC AS ITS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED BECAUSE IT SERVES
07:54:54 BRITTON PLAZA, WHICH IS OF COURSE A LARGE COMMERCIAL
07:54:57 DEVELOPMENT.
07:54:59 THUS WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES
07:55:02 THIS WAIVER.
07:55:03 THIS IS THE ONLY WAIVER BEING REQUESTED IN THIS
07:55:06 APPLICATION.
07:55:08 FINALLY, THE ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:55:10 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THIS IS SUPPORTED BY STAFF STAFF.
07:55:15 IN SUM, THE APPLICANT RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THE CITY
07:55:18 COUNCIL APPROVES THE SUBJECT APPLICATION FOR REZONING OF
07:55:23 THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL 1 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
07:55:26 ZONING DESIGNATION, INCLUDING FOR THE RELEVANT
07:55:29 TRANSPORTATION WAIVER, WHICH BENEFITS THE PUBLIC.
07:55:33 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER.
07:55:35 ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS FAR AS THE CONSULTANT.
07:55:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MANAGE.
07:55:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:55:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MISSED YOUR NAME AT THE BEGINNING.
07:55:44 >> DEVON DAMON.
07:55:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND GOOD JOB.
07:55:51 DID MR. HENRY IN YOUR ANALYSIS, DID HE SPEAK TO WHAT THE
07:55:56 CURRENT NUMBER OF TRIPS ARE THROUGH THAT LITTLE SEGMENT
07:55:59 OF STERLING GOING INTO BRITTON PLAZA?
07:56:02 THERE MUST BE THOUSANDS.
07:56:03 OH, THERE HE IS.
07:56:04 YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, MR. HENRY?
07:56:07 >> I HAVE.
07:56:08 HENRY AND ASSOCIATES, 502 WEST LAUREL, TAMPA.
07:56:12 WE DID NOT DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
07:56:14 A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS.
07:56:15 REALLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS WHETHER IT MADE MORE
07:56:18 SENSE TO HAVE THE ACCESS ON EUCLID OR ON STERLING.
07:56:23 FROM OUR STANDPOINT, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, OPERATION
07:56:25 STANDPOINT, THE STERLING AVENUE ACCESS IS MUCH BETTER
07:56:28 THAN THE --
07:56:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT IN COMING
07:56:33 OFF OF EUCLID, THE INGRESS BEING ON EUCLID AND THE HE
07:56:37 AGREES BEING ON STERLING OR THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE?
07:56:39 >> NO.
07:56:40 YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME DEPTH.
07:56:42 OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO THE WRONG WAY OUT AND WE
07:56:45 DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SO IT
07:56:48 WOULDN'T FUNCTION ADEQUATELY.
07:56:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE WAIVER IS THE ONLY WAY THIS
07:56:51 PROPERTY CAN WORK FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?
07:56:54 >> CORRECT.
07:56:55 THE SAFEST WAY.
07:56:56 COULD IT WORK?
07:56:57 YES.
07:56:57 BUT THE SAFE EVERY AND BETTER WAY IS FOR ACCESS OFF OF
07:57:01 STERLING, AND THE REALITY, ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE
07:57:07 DRIVEWAY ON BRITTON PLAZA BECAUSE IT FUNCTIONS LIKE THE
07:57:11 DRIVEWAY FOR BRITTON PLAZA. BUT FOR THE ONE ZONED
07:57:15 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, WE WOULDN'T EVEN
07:57:19 HAVE TO ASK FOR THE WAIVER.
07:57:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HENRY, SHE COACHED YOU WELL.
07:57:23 THANK YOU.
07:57:23 [ LAUGHTER ]
07:57:27 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
07:57:28 OKAY.
07:57:29 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
07:57:30 WE APPRECIATE IT.
07:57:32 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 9?
07:57:35 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
07:57:39 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:57:41 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:57:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:57:44 ANY OPPOSED?
07:57:45 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER 9?
07:57:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
07:57:53 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
07:57:57 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3704 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE
07:58:01 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
07:58:03 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RO-1
07:58:08 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL
07:58:11 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, CLUB, PLACE OF
07:58:14 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, BANK, CATERING SHOP, PHARMACY,
07:58:18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:58:18 >> SECOND.
07:58:21 >>LUIS VIERA: WAS THERE A REVISION SHEET?
07:58:22 >> YES, A REVISION SHEET.
07:58:24 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:58:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:58:27 ANY OPPOSED?
07:58:28 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:58:30 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON DECEMBER 5 AT 9:30
07:58:34 A.M.
07:58:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:58:35 WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
07:58:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:58:39 COORDINATION.
07:58:40 ITEM NUMBER 10 IS REZ 19-77.
07:58:42 IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATE AT 5105
07:58:47 WEST TYSON AVENUE FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
07:58:51 DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ATTACHED
07:58:55 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
07:58:56 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:59:05 THIS IS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, MORE
07:59:08 SPECIFICALLY ON RATTLESNAKE POINT, LIONS PARK IS THE
07:59:12 CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY, HART ROUTE 17
07:59:15 SERVES THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:59:16 IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
07:59:18 ALSO WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
07:59:21 I HAVE AN AERIAL ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU OUTLINED IN THE
07:59:24 PURPLE.
07:59:26 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
07:59:28 BRIDGE STREET RIGHT HERE.
07:59:33 THIS IS A LITTLE OUTDATED BECAUSE IF YOU DRIVE OUT THERE
07:59:35 TODAY, THIS IS NO LONGER DIRT.
07:59:38 IT'S HOUSES AND DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS AREA.
07:59:42 AND THERE'S STILL SOME REMAINING INDUSTRIAL PIECES ALONG
07:59:44 WEST TYSON AVENUE AS WELL AS A RESTAURANT.
07:59:47 AND USES SUCH AS THOSE.
07:59:50 ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE DESIGNATION OF THE
07:59:53 SUBJECT SITE IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
07:59:55 THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FURTHER OVER HERE.
07:59:58 THIS DARK BROWN IS THE HEAVY -- THE DARK BLACK IS HEAVY
08:00:03 INDUSTRIAL.
08:00:04 THERE'S STILL SOME REMNANTS OF THAT ON WEST TYSON AVENUE.
08:00:07 AND THEN WE HAVE SOME URBAN MIXED USE TO THE NORTH.
08:00:13 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
08:00:15 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:00:17 AS I SAID, IT IS LOCATED ON BATTLE SNAKE POINT AS I'M
08:00:21 SURE THIS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THAT HERE HAS BEEN
08:00:23 TRANSITIONING FROM A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WORKING WATERFRONT
08:00:27 MORE TOWARD THE MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND
08:00:30 COMMERCIAL USES ALONG WEST TYSON.
08:00:33 WE ALSO HAVE SPECIFIC POLICY LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR PLAN
08:00:35 ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT PERTAINS TO
08:00:39 RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:00:40 WE DID FIND THAT THE SITE PLAN FURTHERED THE NUMBER OF
08:00:43 USE POLICIES INCLUDING THEY ARE PROVIDING THE PUBLIC
08:00:46 ACCESS ADJACENT TO THE WATERFRONT, AND THEY ARE
08:00:49 ADDRESSING SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
08:00:53 AREA.
08:00:53 OVERALL WE FOUND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS THE
08:00:55 INTENT OF THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE
08:00:58 CATEGORY AND THAT THE PROPOSAL IS COMPARABLE AND
08:01:00 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
08:01:02 ESPECIALLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE
08:01:06 SUBJECT SITE.
08:01:07 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
08:01:09 THANK YOU.
08:01:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
08:01:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
08:01:14 COORDINATION.
08:01:25 AGAIN, AS JENNIFER STATED, WE ARE UP AT RATTLESNAKE
08:01:28 POINT.
08:01:29 THIS IS A LOCATION ZONING MAP.
08:01:33 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, CURRENTLY AN
08:01:38 INDUSTRIAL USE.
08:01:39 THIS IS ALL UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USE PROJECT WITH
08:01:44 A HEAVY CONCENTRATION OF RESIDENTIAL.
08:01:46 THERE IS A MILITARY INSTALLATION IN HERE, HEAVY
08:01:49 INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE WEST.
08:01:56 THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.
08:02:00 WITH A SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
08:02:02 REQUIRED.
08:02:03 THEY ARE ASKING FOR MAXIMUM OF 358 DWELLING UNITS,
08:02:10 AMONGST 13 BUILDINGS AS WELL AS A FOUR-STORY PARKING
08:02:13 GARAGE.
08:02:14 I KNOW THE APPLICANT WILL GO INTO MORE DETAILED
08:02:17 PRESENTATION AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN.
08:02:20 HERE IS THE PARKING GARAGE.
08:02:21 HERE ARE THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
08:02:23 AND THEN HERE ARE SOME TOWN HOME STYLE MULTIFAMILY
08:02:26 BUILDINGS AS WELL.
08:02:33 THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH PARKING, 650 PARKING SPACES ARE
08:02:39 REQUIRED BY CODE.
08:02:39 A TOTAL OF 711 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
08:02:44 THE ONLY WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING PER CODE
08:02:47 SECTION 27-283 .14, FIVE LOADING SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
08:02:55 THEY ARE ASKING TO WAIVE THAT DOWN TO ZERO.
08:02:57 AND THEN SECTION 27-289, 10-C-1 REQUIRES THAT ALL FRONT
08:03:02 DOORS FOR TOWN HOME STYLE MULTIFAMILY UNITS FACE THE
08:03:05 PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
08:03:07 AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE UNITS FACE AN INTERNAL DRIVE AISLE
08:03:13 AS OPPOSED TO A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THEY NEED A WAIVER
08:03:17 TO THAT CODE SECTION FOR BUILDINGS 1 THROUGH 10 TO FACE
08:03:21 AN INTERNAL DRIVE AISLE.
08:03:24 OTHER THAN THAT, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
08:03:26 COORDINATION HAS SOME MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
08:03:28 SECOND READING FOR THE SITE PLAN TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE
08:03:31 NUMBERS.
08:03:32 SIMILARLY, TRANSPORTATION HAS SOME MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN
08:03:36 FIRST AND SECOND READING FOR THE PARKING COUNT.
08:03:39 AND NATURAL RESOURCES HAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND
08:03:44 REQUIREMENTS TO CLEAN UP THE OVERALL TREE PRESERVATION,
08:03:49 AND GREEN SPACE PROVISIONS.
08:03:50 BUT ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, THE ONLY WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING
08:03:54 REQUESTED ARE FOR LOADING BERTH PROVISION, AND THEIR
08:03:58 LOCATION OF THE FRONT DOORS FOR THE TOWN HOME STYLE
08:04:01 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
08:04:03 SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID
08:04:06 FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
08:04:07 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
08:04:08 AGAIN, IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
08:04:12 APPLICATION, PLEASE REMEMBER THE REVISION SHEET AS LISTED
08:04:15 IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
08:04:16 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
08:04:18 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
08:04:23 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
08:04:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
08:04:25 IT APPEARS TO ME YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION STAFF WITH US
08:04:27 TONIGHT?
08:04:29 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
08:04:33 WOULD YOU LIKE -- MR. SCOTT?
08:04:36 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
08:04:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE RECORD I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO
08:04:43 ANYBODY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
08:04:45 HOWEVER, I WAS RECENTLY DOWN THERE AT A NEIGHBORHOOD
08:04:48 ASSOCIATION AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS IN THIS
08:04:51 VICINITY.
08:04:51 AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
08:04:55 SPECIFICALLY WESTSHORE.
08:04:57 AND I'M WONDERING WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT?
08:05:02 DID IT REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY?
08:05:07 WHAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF TRAFFIC STUDY IF THERE IS ONE?
08:05:11 IS THAT PORTION OF WESTSHORE STILL TWO LANES?
08:05:14 WHAT'S IF LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE INTERSECTION AT GANDY
08:05:17 AND WESTSHORE?
08:05:19 ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
08:05:20 >> SURE.
08:05:23 THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND THEY DID HAVE
08:05:25 AN IMPACT FEE, AND THE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION WESTSHORE AND
08:05:33 GANDY, THAT'S --
08:05:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.
08:05:38 >> THE WESTSHORE AND GANDY INTERSECTION WAS A FAILING
08:05:42 INTERSECTION AND THEY HAD MITIGATION TO PAY FOR THEIR
08:05:44 IMPACT ON THAT.
08:05:45 AND WESTSHORE WAS STILL A TWO-LANE ROADWAY.
08:05:49 I BELIEVE THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS HERE.
08:05:51 THEY CAN BRING SOME MORE DETAILS TO THAT ANALYSIS AS
08:05:54 WELL.
08:05:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, LET ME ASK OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER,
08:05:57 YOU.
08:05:58 ON THIS SECTION OF WESTSHORE, IS IT STILL TWO LANES?
08:06:01 >> YES, IT IS.
08:06:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE PLANS TO MAKE IT THREE
08:06:04 LANES?
08:06:05 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NO, WE DON'T.
08:06:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT IN THE OUR CIP TO MAKE IT THREE
08:06:08 LANES?
08:06:10 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NO, IT'S NOT.
08:06:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
08:06:12 SO I KNOW THAT ADJACENT PROJECT WHICH I CAN'T REMEMBER
08:06:18 THE NAME OF RATE NOW WAS APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO.
08:06:23 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: WESTSHORE MARINA PROJECT.
08:06:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
08:06:26 DOES THAT ALSO EXIST OUT TO THAT PORTION OF WESTSHORE?
08:06:30 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: IT DOES HAVE EXITS.
08:06:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW IT EXITS OUT TO GANDY.
08:06:38 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: IT DOES HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON WESTSHORE,
08:06:40 YES.
08:06:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES TYSON HAVE A LIGHT YET?
08:06:45 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NO, IT DOES NOT.
08:06:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS A LIGHT PROJECTED THERE?
08:06:49 >> IT'S ANTICIPATED.
08:06:50 ONE OF THEIR CONDITIONS WAS THAT THEY WOULD DO A TRAFFIC
08:06:53 SIGNAL AWARD ANALYSIS WITHIN THE FINAL TWO YEARS OF THEIR
08:06:57 CO.
08:06:57 WE DO ANTICIPATE IT TO BE WARRANTED.
08:07:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
08:07:04 THANKS FOR NOW.
08:07:05 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:07:08 >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE TRANSPORTATION IS UP, IF I COULD
08:07:09 ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
08:07:11 WHEN YOU ALL LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, DO YOU TAKE
08:07:14 INTO ACCOUNT -- AND ONE OF THE THINGS NEIGHBORS ARE
08:07:17 CONCERNED ABOUT IS THIS, ALL THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN
08:07:20 APPROVED ALREADY, ALL UP AND DOWN THE WESTSHORE CORRIDOR.
08:07:25 WHEN YOU TAKE -- CONSIDERING THIS IS THE ONLY WAY OUT,
08:07:30 GOING OUT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION YOU SAID IS AN F
08:07:34 INTERSECTION, DOES THE TRAFFIC STUDY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
08:07:37 EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED, ALL THE MULTIFAMILY
08:07:39 DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR?
08:07:42 AND THE SECOND PART WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, IS THERE SOME
08:07:45 KIND OF, YOU SAID, MITIGATION, BUT IS THERE CAN
08:07:48 MITIGATION MONEY, BUT IS THERE SOME PLAN, WHAT'S THE PLAN
08:07:52 TO FIX THAT CORRIDOR?
08:07:53 IS THERE A PLAN?
08:07:55 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THE ANALYSIS DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE
08:07:58 BACKGROUND TRAFFIC THAT'S EXISTING AND ALSO WE HAD THEM
08:08:02 ADD SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT WEREN'T BUILT YET AS WELL.
08:08:06 THE INTERSECTION OF WESTSHORE AND GANDY DOES HAVE SOME
08:08:09 IMPROVEMENTS THEY ARE MAKING RIGHT NOW.
08:08:13 THEY ARE ADDING TURN LANES.
08:08:16 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ABOUT THE ROAD ITSELF, SINCE IT'S SO
08:08:18 SMALL?
08:08:21 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NOTHING ON THE ROADWAY ITSELF BUT
08:08:22 MAINLY THE INTERSECTION RATE NOW.
08:08:25 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A PLAN FOR THE ROAD AT ALL THE
08:08:27 TRAFFIC THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD?
08:08:29 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THERE ARE NO PLANS TO WIDEN THAT.
08:08:31 I AGREE, THAT IS -- IT'S A HIGHLY TRAVELED ROADWAY FOR
08:08:36 SURE.
08:08:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID THERE WAS AN F RATING FOR THE
08:08:40 INTERSECTION BUT IS THERE A SIMILAR RATING JUST FOR THE
08:08:43 ROAD ITSELF?
08:08:44 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR WOULD BE
08:08:46 FAILING.
08:08:48 >>BILL CARLSON: THE WHOLE THING.
08:08:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WESTSHORE IS FAILING FROM GANDY SOUTH?
08:08:53 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: I THINK THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR IS, YES.
08:08:55 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
08:08:59 THANK YOU, SIR.
08:09:00 BY THE WAY, IT WAS A PLEASURE TO MEET YOUR WIFE.
08:09:03 SHE WAS A NICE LADY.
08:09:05 VERY NICE.
08:09:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL-BEHAVED CHILD.
08:09:12 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
08:09:14 BEFORE THE APPLICANT GETS UP HERE, I DID WANT TO MAKE
08:09:17 KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER WITH THIS PARTICULAR
08:09:19 APPLICATION, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED AN ISSUE
08:09:23 THAT CAME UP WITH SOME OF THE ACCESS POINTS.
08:09:27 THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT PRELIMINARILY THAT
08:09:31 THEY HAVE RIGHT TO USE THE ACCESS POINTS THEY HAVE SHOWN,
08:09:33 THAT IS DISPUTED BY A THIRD PARTY CSX THAT IS CURRENTLY
08:09:38 IN LITIGATION.
08:09:39 HOWEVER THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOLD UP THAT
08:09:42 BASED ON THE FACT THAT IS IN DISPUTE.
08:09:45 IF LATER DOWN THE LINE THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED BUT
08:09:48 THEY ARE UNABLE TO UTILIZE THE ACCESS POINTS, THEY WILL
08:09:51 HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME NEW ACCESS POINTS THAT WILL BE
08:09:54 REVIEWED THROUGH THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE LEE VIEW PROCESS
08:09:56 WHICH THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED IN ITS CODE AND IF IT'S
08:09:59 DETERMINED TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IT WILL COME BACK
08:10:02 TO YOU FOR REZONING FOR THOSE ACCESS POINTS.
08:10:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MAY GO.
08:10:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THE TRANSPORTATION COMPETENT EVIDENCE,
08:10:15 THE FACT THAT THE ROAD IS AN F ALREADY?
08:10:17 IS THAT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE?
08:10:19 >>REBECCA KERT: IT IS A FACT, SO IT IS COMPETENT,
08:10:23 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
08:10:25 THERE IS A BIGGER PICTURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO CONSIDER,
08:10:27 WHICH THE TRANSPORTATION HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONTEXT DUE
08:10:38 TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A CONCURRENCY
08:10:40 REQUIREMENT AT THIS THIS POINT, CONCURRENCY WHEN IT WAS
08:10:44 ESTABLISHED WHAT LEVEL OF ROAD YOU WOULD HAVE AND YOU
08:10:46 WOULD ESTABLISH AT WHAT LEVEL OF ROAD WAS ACCEPTABLE FOR
08:10:49 YOUR AREA, AND THEN YOU WOULD STOP DEVELOPMENT IF IT WENT
08:10:51 BELOW THOSE RATINGS.
08:10:53 THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.
08:10:54 THE CASE HAS ESTABLISHED SOME PARAMETERS.
08:10:57 THE CITY NOW HAS A CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA, AND
08:11:02 THEREFORE THERE'S A MITIGATION PAYMENT THAT THEY PAY, A
08:11:05 PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THEIR IMPACT, TO TRY TO ADDRESS
08:11:08 THOSE CONCERNS.
08:11:09 BUT IT'S NO LONGER THE FACT THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT
08:11:13 ADDITIONAL TRIPS ON A FAILING ROAD, THAT THAT IS IN FACT
08:11:16 IN ITSELF A BASIS FOR DENIAL, SO THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE
08:11:19 THAN FACT THAT THE ROAD IS FAILING.
08:11:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
08:11:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANOTHER FOLLOW UP WITH MRS. KERT.
08:11:29 THANKS FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT THE TCEA.
08:11:33 TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THOSE PAYMENTS.
08:11:36 HOW DO THOSE PAYMENTS MITIGATE AND HELP A FAILING ROAD
08:11:40 AND A FAILING INTERSECTION?
08:11:42 >>REBECCA KERT: I AM GOING TO ASK JONATHAN SCOTT TO GET
08:11:45 A LITTLE MORE INTO THE MITIGATION PAYMENTS AND HOW THEY
08:11:48 EVALUATE THAT.
08:11:49 BUT IT WAS ADOPTED AFTER THE TCA WENT AWAY, THERE WAS A
08:11:55 MULTIMODAL MITIGATION, THERE WAS ANALYSIS DONE, AND THEN
08:11:58 THERE IS A PROCEDURE THAT YOU GO THROUGH WHERE DEPENDING
08:12:01 UPON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS AND THE SIZE OF PROJECTS, THEY
08:12:04 IDENTIFY THE AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY, BUT I AM GOING
08:12:07 TO LET JONATHAN ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
08:12:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE MORE QUESTION TO YOU, REBECCA.
08:12:12 SO THE STATE ELIMINATED THAT?
08:12:15 >>REBECCA KERT: THE CITY PRAYER TO THE STATE DOING IT
08:12:18 ACTUALLY HAD ESTABLISHED THIS AREA AS A TCA WHICH IS A
08:12:22 TRANSACTION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA, NOT TO TALK
08:12:25 LINGUISTICALLY, BUT IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO THAT THE STATE
08:12:29 ACTUALLY SAID, THE DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENTS SUCH AS THE
08:12:35 CITY OF TAMPA, THAT IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE A CONCURRENCY
08:12:38 AREA ANYMORE IN TRANSPORTATION.
08:12:41 LANDSCAPE TOTALLY SHIFTED AND WE HANDLE IT DIFFERENTLY
08:12:44 NOW.
08:12:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT EVACUATION?
08:12:45 IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS, EVACUATION
08:12:49 CONCERNS?
08:12:50 >>REBECCA KERT: POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEAL
08:12:52 WITH THAT AND I'M SURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CAN
08:12:55 TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO
08:12:58 ADDRESS THINGS DEALING WITH THAT, YES.
08:13:01 THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
08:13:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
08:13:04 ANYONE ELSE?
08:13:09 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
08:13:10 ON THAT QUESTION YOU HAD, WHEN THEY HAVE A FEE IMPACT FOR
08:13:15 THEIR ANALYSIS, IT'S USED IN THE WHOLE AREA FOR DIFFERENT
08:13:18 PROJECTS.
08:13:19 SO LIKE IN THIS CASE THEY WOULD HAVE A MITIGATION AMOUNT,
08:13:23 AND THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THAT AREA.
08:13:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN YOU CAN USE THE MONEY, THE CITY
08:13:30 CAN USE THE MONEY FOR WHATEVER IT WANTS TO AS LONG AS
08:13:32 IT'S TRANSPORTATION RELATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
08:13:35 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: AS LONG AS IT'S IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
08:13:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IS THE AMOUNT CALCULATED ALREADY?
08:13:40 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES, IT IS.
08:13:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT?
08:13:43 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
08:13:44 I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU.
08:14:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU CAN BALLPARK ME IF YOU WANT.
08:14:05 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: I THINK IT'S 17,000 SOMETHING.
08:14:07 BECAUSE WE HAD TO ADD THE FACT AS WELL THAT THEY HAD TO,
08:14:12 WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THEIR FINAL CO, DO A SIGNAL WARRANT
08:14:17 ANALYSIS FOR TYSON AND WESTSHORE, AND HAVE AN ADDITIONAL
08:14:21 IMPACT FEE AS WELL FOR THAT POSSIBLY.
08:14:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 17,000 FOR 350 UNITS?
08:14:27 THANK YOU.
08:14:28 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: SURE.
08:14:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] IS THERE A SIGNAL AT THE
08:14:36 CORNER OF TYSON AND WESTSHORE?
08:14:38 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THERE IS NOT AT THIS TIME.
08:14:40 THAT'S WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
08:14:42 WE ANTICIPATES THAT IT WILL BE WARRANTED IN THE FUTURE,
08:14:45 THOUGH.
08:14:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW FAR IN THE FUTURE?
08:14:50 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: PROBABLY DO THE AWARD ANALYSIS WITHIN
08:14:54 TWO YEARS.
08:14:56 THE PROCESS WOULD PROBABLY BE WARRANTED WITHIN THAT TIME.
08:14:59 SO PROBABLY TWO YEARS OF BUILDOUT, WHICH WOULD BE THREE
08:15:01 YEARS.
08:15:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
08:15:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
08:15:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:15:05 PETITIONER?
08:15:09 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
08:15:13 ELISE BATSEL.
08:15:15 WE DO HAVE TO DOCUMENTS TO PRESENT FOR THE RECORD.
08:15:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
08:15:31 WHILE SHE'S PASSING THOSE OUT, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT WITH
08:15:33 KEVIN MENIERE'S AND JENNIFER PLATT, MATT HAWTHORNE, A
08:15:41 REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER, AS WELL AS TRIAL COUNSEL
08:15:43 WITH HILL, WARD, HENDERSON.
08:15:45 I'LL LET YOU GUYS GET SETTLED IN.
08:15:47 SOME OF THESE ARE SMALL, IN CASE THE OVERHEAD DOESN'T
08:15:53 ADEQUATELY SHOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
08:16:11 SO WHAT STAFF HAS ALREADY SAID, YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH
08:16:13 RATTLESNAKE POINT AND ITS GENERAL LOCATION.
08:16:17 SPECIFICALLY, THIS PROPERTY IS 11.9 ACRES LOCATED ON THE
08:16:21 NORTH SIDE OF TYSON ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:16:25 TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BROADER LOOK AT THE CURRENT LAND USE
08:16:32 THAN STAFF DID, YOU CAN SEE THAT DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH ON
08:16:36 WESTSHORE AVENUE, IT'S BMU 35.
08:16:38 A MAJORITY OF THE RATTLESNAKE POINT HAS ALREADY CONVERTED
08:16:41 TO BMU 35 THROUGH A SERIES OF APPROVALS THAT THIS COUNCIL
08:16:46 APPROVED BETWEEN AT WHAT TIME AND 2018.
08:16:50 AND EVEN IN THE SIXTIES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST OF
08:16:53 THE PROPERTY.
08:16:59 QUICKLY, THE PROJECT OVERVIEW, WE ARE ASKING FOR 358
08:17:04 MULTIFAMILY OR TOWN HOME UNITS.
08:17:06 AS YOU CAN SEE, FROM THE PICTURE IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE
08:17:10 IS A MIXTURE OF TEN TOWN HOME BUILDINGS, AND -- SORRY,
08:17:15 THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITH A PARKING GARAGE THAT WILL
08:17:18 HOUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING INTERNAL TO THE
08:17:21 CIRCULATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
08:17:24 THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 29.99 DWELL UNITS PER ACRE WHICH
08:17:28 IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED IN THE CMU-35.
08:17:31 YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE ADDED A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY TO
08:17:34 THE WATERFRONT TO REALLY ACTIVATE AND UTILIZE THE
08:17:37 WATERFRONT FOR THE RESIDENTS.
08:17:39 AND YOU WILL HEAR THAT IT FURTHERS THE TRANSITION FROM
08:17:43 INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE.
08:17:45 BUT INCLUDING THIS BUFFER, THAT BUFFERS AGAINST THE
08:17:49 ADJACENT ARMY CORP OF ENGINEER TRAINING FACILITY.
08:17:57 AS STAFF MENTIONED, ONE OF THE WAIVERS THAT WE ARE
08:18:00 REQUESTING, THE WAIVER TO THE BUILDING ORIENTATION.
08:18:03 THIS WOULD ALLOW THE GROUND FLOOR OF BUILDING 1 THROUGH
08:18:06 10 TO ACTUALLY FACE INTERNAL TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
08:18:10 WE HAVE CREATED CONTAINED OF A CENTRAL MAIN STREET, AND
08:18:15 IT'S VERY LARGE, 12 ACRES.
08:18:17 AND BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED ON TWO SIDES BY WATER, AND
08:18:20 THE CSX TRACKS FACE TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE CREATED THIS
08:18:25 INTERNAL CIRCULATION PATTERN TO INTEGRATE THE USES.
08:18:29 YOU MIGHT REMEMBER COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND MIRANDA, THE
08:18:33 ORIGINAL PROVISION WITH PUTTING THE CODE WITH A LOT OF
08:18:36 THE PROVISIONS -- I'M SORRY, THE DEVELOPMENTS IN COURIER
08:18:39 CITY WERE FRONTING ON ALLEYS.
08:18:42 SO THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE CREATING A STREET.
08:18:50 THE SECOND WAIVER WE ARE THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS
08:18:52 PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO SEE.
08:18:54 BUT IT'S A WAIVER TO THE LOADING BERTH REQUIREMENT.
08:18:57 OBVIOUSLY, WITH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, WHAT'S
08:19:01 COMING IN AND OUT FROM A LOADING PERSPECTIVE ARE GOING TO
08:19:04 BE MOVING VANS.
08:19:05 THIS ACTUALLY USES THE TEMPLATE FOR AN F-U-30 TRUCK WHICH
08:19:11 IS BIGGER THAN A GARBAGE TRUCK AND BIGGER THAN THE
08:19:14 LARGEST U-HAUL.
08:19:16 WE DESIGNED THE SITE SO THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE CIRCULATION
08:19:18 AND ADEQUATE ABILITY FOR MOVING TO CIRCULATE INTERNAL TO
08:19:22 THE PROPERTY.
08:19:23 ALSO, ALONG THE CENTRAL MANN STREET, THERE'S A NUMBER OF
08:19:26 PARALLEL PARKING SPACES.
08:19:28 AND SINCE IT'S NOT A CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT'S -- SORRY, A
08:19:31 PRIVATE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE COULD ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE OFF
08:19:34 AND ALSO HAVE THE MOVING VANS COME IN AND OUT OF THAT
08:19:38 AREA.
08:19:42 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY SEE OUT THERE IS ALL THIS
08:19:46 DEVELOPMENT.
08:19:47 THERE'S THE WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB.
08:19:48 THERE IS A NEW TOWERS GOING TO THE NORTH.
08:19:50 SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE MAXIMUM OF THE PROJECT.
08:19:53 I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU TWO DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS BUT THEY
08:19:56 ARE BOTH FROM TYSON AVENUE AND IT'S JUST SO LONG THAT
08:19:59 IT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT THOSE TOGETHER.
08:20:00 SO THIS IS THE WEST HALF OF THE PROJECT.
08:20:03 LOOKING ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE
08:20:07 DOG PARK HERE.
08:20:08 THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN AREA ALONG TYSON AVENUE.
08:20:11 THEN YOU CAN SEE THE MASSING OF THE 4 STORY APARTMENT
08:20:15 BUILDING.
08:20:16 DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THAT, WHICH IS NEXT N YOUR PACKET,
08:20:23 YOU CAN SEE THERE'S OPEN SPACE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIZE
08:20:26 AND SCALE OF THE TOWN HOME UNITS WHICH WOULD ALSO BE
08:20:29 ALONG TYSON AND WILL BE FACING A LONG THE EASTERN
08:20:32 BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
08:20:41 THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE MOST INTERESTING TO ME.
08:20:45 AND THIS IS MOSTLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEW COUNCIL
08:20:47 MEMBERS.
08:20:49 VERY BRIEFLY, WE PUT TOGETHER THIS TIMELINE OF APPROVAL.
08:20:52 THIS IS BASICALLY SORT OF A HISTORY OF THIS AREA.
08:20:56 JUST OUTSIDE OF RATTLESNAKE POINT AND ON RATTLESNAKE
08:20:59 POINT.
08:21:00 WHAT YOU WILL SEE THAT IT SHOWS ALL OF THE PRIOR
08:21:02 DECISIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL THAT SUPPORT RATTLESNAKE
08:21:04 POINT TRANSITIONING FROM THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA TO A TRUE
08:21:09 MIXED USE AREA.
08:21:10 FROM 2002 TO 2005, YOU CAN SEE THAT ALONG THE EASTERN
08:21:15 BOUNDARY OF THIS AREA, JUST OFF OF WESTSHORE, JUST OFF OF
08:21:18 RATTLESNAKE POINT, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMPREHENSIVE
08:21:21 PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT BROUGHT THAT INDUSTRIAL TO A CMU-35
08:21:26 MIXED USE CATEGORY.
08:21:28 FROM 2006 AND RECENTLY, 2018, CITY COUNCIL ALSO EXTENDED
08:21:35 A NUMBER OF APPROVALS TAKING CMU-35 AND APPROVING IN A
08:21:41 FOR A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES.
08:21:42 IN FACT THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTIES ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:21:46 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT WATERFRONT AREA IS LOCATED IN THE
08:21:50 SOUTH TAMPA AREA.
08:21:52 THIS PLANNING AREA, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE WESTSHORE
08:21:55 CORRIDOR, WHICH IS FROM GANDY SOUTH, HAVE EXPERIENCED
08:21:59 SUBSTANTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OVER THE PAST 10-15 YEARS AS
08:22:02 YOU KNOW.
08:22:03 IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS IT INCLUDED A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES
08:22:06 FROM RENTAL APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES AND HIGH-RISE
08:22:09 DWELLINGS, INCLUDING THE WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB, THE
08:22:12 WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT, WHICH IS FORMERLY THE NEW
08:22:15 COURTS, AND A SERIES OF SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
08:22:18 DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THE EXCHANGE AT WESTSHORE.
08:22:22 AND TO COMPLEMENT THE RESIDENTIAL, NONRESIDENTIALS ARE
08:22:25 NOW UNDERWAY IN THE TOWN CENTER AT WESTSHORE MARINA
08:22:29 DISTRICT, AND A NEW RESTAURANT CONCEPT IS COMING SOON TO
08:22:33 GANDY AND BRIDGE.
08:22:36 THERE ARE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS SERVING FOR THIS
08:22:38 TRANSITIONING AREA TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS
08:22:40 CREATING A GOOD BALANCE WITHIN THIS AREA.
08:22:42 AND FURTHERING IN VISION 2 CREATE A TRUE MIXED USE
08:22:47 COMMUNITY.
08:22:48 AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE KEVIN
08:22:51 MENIERE'S WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
08:22:55 >> I'M ABOUT TO TAKE ALL OF HIS EXHIBITS WHICH HE WOULD
08:23:00 NOT BE HAPPY WITH ME.
08:23:01 >> GOOD EVENING.
08:23:09 I'M KEVIN MEN NEAR WITH THE JUSTICE GROUP, SUITE 900 AND
08:23:14 I'M ASSISTING ELISE ON THIS PROPERTY.
08:23:19 IT'S NOT USUAL WE HAVE A PROPERTY THIS SIZE AND HOW IT
08:23:24 REFLECTS AND ENHANCE OUR NEIGHBORS.
08:23:26 THESE INCLUDE WESTSHORE MARINA LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE
08:23:29 EAST IN THE TEEL, WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB TO THE SOUTHEAST
08:23:34 IN THE PURPLE, OUR WESTERN NEIGHBOR IS THE ARMED FORCES
08:23:37 TRAINING CENTER, AND TO THE SOUTH IS HULA BAY RESTAURANT,
08:23:41 BAR AND MARINA.
08:23:42 ON TYSON AVENUE, MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DESIGNATED SMU
08:23:47 35, THE PINK, JUST LAKE US, SO IT'S ACTUALLY EFFECTED --
08:23:51 EXPECTED THAT THEY WILL REDEVELOP IN THE NEAR FUTURE IN A
08:23:54 SIMILAR PATTERN.
08:23:55 RECENTLY THE SALT SHACK T BAR WAS APPROVED AT THE END OF
08:23:59 RATTLESNAKE POINT SO THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES FROM
08:24:02 RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL.
08:24:05 A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
08:24:06 THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT TO BE INSTALLED AT TYSON AND
08:24:09 WESTSHORE.
08:24:10 IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ZONING
08:24:12 DISTRICTS.
08:24:13 WE HAVE PAID INTO THIS FUND AS PART OF OUR SPECIAL
08:24:16 REQUIREMENTS, AND WE ALSO HAVE BRIDGE STREET, WHICH IS
08:24:20 JUST OPENED.
08:24:21 IT'S A PUBLIC STREET.
08:24:22 IT'S AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY.
08:24:24 IT'S NOT GATED.
08:24:25 AND IT WILL SERVE AS A RELIEVER TO WESTSHORE.
08:24:28 HERE IS OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST.
08:24:34 AND NORTH.
08:24:34 THE WESTSHORE MARINA IS A LUXURY MIXED USE PROJECT WITH
08:24:38 TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY ALREADY BUILT, AND IT WILL BE
08:24:40 VERY SIMILAR IN SIZE AND SHAPE TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING,
08:24:43 AND ALSO PROPOSING THREE HIGH-RISES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE
08:24:47 WATER FROM US.
08:24:48 NOTE THE PRETTY GRAPHIC PLANTED A FOREST ON OUR PROPERTY.
08:24:51 THIS IS OUR PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
08:24:53 I GUESS TO JAZZ IT UP, WE HAVE NOT A SINGLE TREE ON OUR
08:24:58 PROPERTY TODAY.
08:24:59 BY CODE WE ARE REQUIRED TO PLANT AT A MINIMUM 280 TREES
08:25:03 JUST TO MEET CODE.
08:25:04 SO SOON OUR PROPERTY WILL BE VERY GREEN.
08:25:07 THE OTHER GRAPHIC IS NICE, TOO.
08:25:09 IT SHOWS THE PUBLIC WALKWAY ALONG THE SEAWALL.
08:25:11 WE WILL BE EXTENDING THIS WALKWAY ALL ALONG OUR SEAWALL.
08:25:16 IT'S A PUBLIC WALKWAY, AND IT WILL BE EXTENDING THIS
08:25:21 AMENITY.
08:25:24 WHY SUCH A STRONG COMMITMENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE
08:25:26 DEVELOPMENT?
08:25:27 BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES A UNIQUE SET OF
08:25:30 POLICIES SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON RATTLESNAKE POINT TO
08:25:32 ENCOURAGE ITS REDEVELOPMENT.
08:25:35 INTO A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE WATERFRONT COMMUNITY.
08:25:37 THESE POLICIES SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE FUTURE OF THIS
08:25:39 UNIQUE GATEWAY TO THE CITY POLICY A-11.1 REQUIRES
08:25:45 DEVELOPMENT IN CMU TO BE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHAT
08:25:47 WE ARE, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
08:25:49 POLICY 8-11.4 ENSURES THAT THERE'S REASONABLE PUBLIC
08:25:59 ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, IN RESPONSE WE ARE EXTENDING
08:26:02 THE EXISTING WATERFRONT WATERWAY TO MATCH UP WITH
08:26:06 WESTSHORE MARINA. THIS WALKWAY WILL BE OPEN TO THE
08:26:09 PUBLIC.
08:26:11 H-11-5 ENSURES THAT ALL NEW PROJECTS NEED TO MEET FOUR
08:26:16 SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN RESPONSE TO --
08:26:19 [NO ENCODER]
08:26:37 [NETWORK LOSS]
08:26:42
08:33:30 >> ONE IS THE ELEVATED LANES ALONG GANDY THAT ARE
08:33:33 CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH
08:33:35 THAT, THE EXPRESSWAY IS DOING THE INTERSECTION
08:33:39 IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITY AT GANDY AND WESTSHORE, WHICH
08:33:43 INCLUDE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL NORTHBOUND/SOUTHBOUND
08:33:46 LEFT-TURN LANE.
08:33:47 WITH THOSE, BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE
08:33:51 CITY AND ALSO FROM THE EXPRESSWAY, DECREASE DELAYS TO
08:33:55 INTERSECTION BY 40%.
08:33:56 IN ADDITION, YOU'VE GOT BRIDGE STREET THAT HAS JUST
08:34:00 RECENTLY OPENED UP THAT DOES ALLOW A CONNECTION FROM
08:34:02 GANDY TO TYSON, AND THEN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE IS
08:34:07 THE INTERSECTION OR THE SIGNAL THAT WOULD GO IN AT TYSON
08:34:10 AND WESTSHORE.
08:34:10 SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOME
08:34:16 SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.
08:34:17 LASTLY, I WANT TO REAL QUICKLY TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC -- THE
08:34:23 IMPACT OF TRAFFIC.
08:34:24 THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED IG.
08:34:26 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER 45 SECONDS, YOU
08:34:28 MAY.
08:34:29 >> THANK YOU.
08:34:29 THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED IG.
08:34:34 IT IS A FAIRLY HIGH INTENSE USE.
08:34:36 I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU KIND OF ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF
08:34:39 WHAT, IF IT DEVELOPED TO FULL POTENTIAL TODAY, WHICH IT
08:34:44 MAY BE HALF, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, THE GREEN SHOWS WHAT
08:34:47 IT WOULD DEVELOP AS, WHAT THE TRAFFIC MIGHT BE, VERSUS
08:34:50 WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
08:34:50 SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IS BY RIGHT TODAY, THEY COME IN TODAY
08:34:55 AND BUILD THAT.
08:34:57 SO WE'RE A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE OVER WHAT THAT COULD BE
08:35:01 DEVELOPED TODAY FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT.
08:35:03 I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
08:35:05 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
08:35:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
08:35:07 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
08:35:09 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
08:35:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
08:35:11 ALWAYS VERY THOROUGH, BUT REMIND ME AT THE END OF BRIDGE
08:35:15 STREET IS THERE GOING TO BE -- IS THERE A LEFT TURN GOING
08:35:20 WEST ON GANDY COMING OUT OF BRIDGE?
08:35:24 IS D.O.T. ALLOWING THAT?
08:35:28 >> WHICH --
08:35:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COMING UP TO THE END OF THE BRIDGE,
08:35:30 OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN MAKE A RIGHT, BUT IS THE D.O.T.
08:35:33 ALLOWING A LEFT TURN THERE?
08:35:35 >> THEY ARE ALLOWING A LEFT IN, NOT A LEFT OUT.
08:35:37 SO IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND, YOU CAN MAKE A LEFT IN.
08:35:42 YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT OUT.
08:35:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOING FROM BRIDGE NORTH, YOU CAN'T
08:35:45 MAKE A LEFT.
08:35:46 >> CORRECT.
08:35:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA,
08:35:49 GOING TO PINELLAS COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT TO
08:35:52 WESTSHORE, GO THROUGH THE LIGHT, AND THEN GO LEFT.
08:35:56 >> OR COME OUT BRIDGE STREET, MAKE A RIGHT AND MAKE A
08:35:59 U-TURN.
08:36:00 YES, EITHER WAY, YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
08:36:02 INTERSECTION, CORRECT.
08:36:03 BUT YOU COULD AVOID WESTSHORE BY DOING THAT.
08:36:06 YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF GANDY
08:36:08 AND WESTSHORE, YES.
08:36:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU ALL HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH
08:36:12 D.O.T. ABOUT THAT, ABOUT LEFT?
08:36:16 >> NOT RECENTLY.
08:36:17 MANY YEARS AGO WE DID.
08:36:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S NO LIGHTED BRIDGE, CORRECT?
08:36:20 >> NO, CORRECT.
08:36:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER AT ONE POINT THEY WERE
08:36:23 TALKING ABOUT A LIGHTED BRIDGE.
08:36:24 I GUESS IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
08:36:26 >> NO.
08:36:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT-OF-WAY, I NOTICED THAT THE CITY
08:36:33 OR D.O.T. IS DOING A THIRD LANE FOR ABOUT A COUPLE
08:36:37 HUNDRED FEET AS YOU APPROACH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
08:36:41 WESTSHORE, AS YOU APPROACH THE INTERSECTION.
08:36:43 >> FROM THE NORTH?
08:36:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COMING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, AS
08:36:46 YOU APPROACH THE INTERSECTION, THEY ARE WIDENING IT TO IT
08:36:49 LOOKS LIKE THREE LANES.
08:36:50 >> GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF FOUR LANES SOUTHBOUND.
08:36:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOUR LANES.
08:36:53 IS THERE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO YOUR EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE, IS
08:37:00 THERE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE CORRIDOR GOING SOUTH OFF THAT
08:37:05 INTERSECTION GOING SOUTHBOUND WESTSHORE?
08:37:08 DOES RIGHT-OF-WAY EXIST THERE FOR THE POSSIBILITY --
08:37:12 >> OF A THIRD LANE.
08:37:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A THIRD OR FOURTH LANE.
08:37:15 >> WELL, FOR A THIRD LANE, MY OPINION IS YES, BASED ON.
08:37:18 AGAIN, I HAVEN'T GONE OUT THERE AND SURVEYED TO LOOK AT
08:37:21 IT.
08:37:21 DRIVING IT ENOUGH TIMES IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS
08:37:23 SUFFICIENT RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR A THIRD LANE.
08:37:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOBODY HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THAT WITH THE
08:37:29 CITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF THAT TYPE OF
08:37:31 IMPROVEMENT?
08:37:35 >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
08:37:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, STEVE.
08:37:41 >> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
08:37:43 THERE MAY BE ROOM, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS LOOKED
08:37:46 AT THAT SCENARIO.
08:37:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
08:37:55 >>LUIS VIERA: NOW WE OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
08:37:57 ITEM NUMBER 10.
08:37:58 IF YOU ARE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 10.
08:38:01 PLEASE COME FORWARD.
08:38:02 HOW MANY FOLKS WILL SPEAK ON ITEM 10, IF YOU CAN RAISE
08:38:05 YOUR HAND.
08:38:10 YOU MAY BEGIN.
08:38:36 >> [INAUDIBLE]
08:38:39 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THIS BEING HANDED, MR. SHELBY?
08:38:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LOOKS LIKE TWO SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
08:38:44 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL DEAL WITH 12 WHEN 12 COMES.
08:38:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 77 IS WHAT'S HERE.
08:38:48 69 I'M GIVING BACK TO YOU.
08:38:50 WHAT YOU'RE HANGED ME ALL RELATES TO 69.
08:38:53 IT RELATES TO BOTH.
08:38:59 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN WE GO THROUGH THIS SO WE CAN GET
08:39:02 STARTED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT?
08:39:03 GO AHEAD, MA'AM OR MR. SHELBY.
08:39:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
08:39:08 THERE ARE FIVE NAMES ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM FOR
08:39:12 MS. POYNER.
08:39:13 PAMELA RITTER.
08:39:14 KEITH POYNER.
08:39:17 THANK YOU.
08:39:17 MELISSA SWARTZ.
08:39:20 THANK YOU.
08:39:21 SONYA -- THANK YOU.
08:39:24 CINDY STARTS WITH AN M.
08:39:27 WHAT IS THE NAME?
08:39:29 MEADOWS.
08:39:31 THANK YOU.
08:39:31 FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
08:39:42 >> GOOD EVENING.
08:39:43 MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNER.
08:39:44 I LIVE AT 7709 LANDCARE LANE, WHICH IS IN SOUTH TAMPA,
08:39:49 33616.
08:39:51 I AM AN HOA BOARD MEMBER FOR SOUTH TOWN PARK AT 7700
08:39:57 INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
08:39:58 I'M ALSO THE ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE GANDY
08:40:01 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
08:40:02 I AM A LICENSED REALTOR AND A PROPERTY MANAGER.
08:40:05 I AM ALSO A CERTIFIED TEACHER AND A 22-YEAR MILITARY
08:40:09 SPOUSE.
08:40:09 I AM A NOVICE RESEARCHER OF CITY RECORDS.
08:40:12 SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.
08:40:16 I MAY NOT HAVE THE EXACT DETAILS BECAUSE I'M STILL
08:40:19 LEARNING.
08:40:20 THE NUMBER ONE THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT IS I WANT YOU TO
08:40:23 DENY THIS REQUEST TO BUILD THESE PROPERTIES.
08:40:25 GENTLEMEN, ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH, SINCE 2016, WE HAVE
08:40:30 BUILT -- YOU HAVE EITHER APPROVED OR THEY HAVE BUILT OR
08:40:34 ARE BUILDING 2748 UNITS.
08:40:39 SOUTH OF GANDY, WEST OF DALE MABRY.
08:40:41 IF YOU DIVIDE THAT UP INTO QUARTER-ACRE LOTS, WHICH IS
08:40:45 WHAT MOST OF SOUTH OF GANDY IS, THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF
08:40:48 MOVING ONE PERSON INTO EVERY FOURTH HOUSE.
08:40:52 IN OUR AREA.
08:40:53 WE CAN'T GET HERE.
08:40:57 IT TOOK US FOUR TIMES TO GET THROUGH THE LIGHT AT GANDY
08:41:00 AND MANHATTAN.
08:41:02 I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT WESTSHORE.
08:41:03 THESE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ARE BEING BUILT,
08:41:08 AND HAVE JUST BEEN BUILT.
08:41:12 THOSE 2748 UNITS, GUESS WHAT?
08:41:15 THEY ARE NOT EVEN FULL.
08:41:16 THEY ARE OVERPRICED.
08:41:19 MOST OF THEM START AT $1800 A MONTH OR MORE.
08:41:22 MOST FOLKS ASSUME THAT MacDILL IS A NORMAL PLACE.
08:41:26 MacDILL DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER MILITARY
08:41:31 FACILITY IN THE COUNTRY FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
08:41:33 FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE MacDILL IS EXTREMELY TOP HEAVY.
08:41:38 ALL I DO IS HELP MILITARY FOLKS FIND HOMES IN TAMPA WHEN
08:41:42 THEY COME TO TOWN.
08:41:44 THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS, FOLKS.
08:41:47 THEY ARE LOOKING FOR HOUSES.
08:41:48 THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR TWO-BEDROOM APARTMENTS OR THREE
08:41:54 BEDROOM OR FOUR BEDROOM.
08:41:55 THESE ARE FAMILIES BECAUSE IT IS SO TOP HEAVY.
08:41:57 WE HAVE SO MANY SENIOR FOLKS COMING INTO TOWN.
08:41:56 YOU HAVE A FEW AIRMEN ON THE BASE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO --
08:42:00 BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW SMALLER FAMILIES BUT YOU ARE
08:42:04 TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, 440 UNITS.
08:42:09 THERE'S ONLY 527 ON MacDILL.
08:42:14 REALLY?
08:42:14 AND THOSE ARE AT LEAST HOMES.
08:42:16 THESE APARTMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE
08:42:19 MILITARY FAMILIES WE HAVE GOT DOWN THERE.
08:42:22 SOUTH OF GANDY, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS IT'S A BLUE
08:42:25 COLLAR COMMUNITY WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF MILITARY MIXED.
08:42:29 IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD $1800 A MONTH APARTMENTS.
08:42:32 NOW I AM GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
08:42:34 WHEN I CHECKED THESE A MONTHS AGO THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
08:42:36 BEFORE THE COUNCIL A MONTH AGO, AND WHEN I CHECKED IT,
08:42:39 THE APARTMENTS RAN, THEY START OUT ABOUT 1800.
08:42:42 BUT THIS IS A BAD TIME OF YEAR.
08:42:44 AND ALL THESE APARTMENTS AS YOU CAN SEE ON -- THERE'S A
08:42:50 SPREADSHEET.
08:42:51 I'M SORRY.
08:42:53 IT SHOWS HOW MANY OF THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ARE
08:42:55 RUNNING SPECIALS TWO MONTHS FREE, SIX WEEKS FREE.
08:42:59 WHY?
08:43:00 BECAUSE THEY ARE VACANT.
08:43:01 AND VACANT APARTMENTS DON'T MAKE MONEY.
08:43:04 SO IF THOSE AREN'T FULL THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT
08:43:06 ALREADY BEEN CONTRACTED TO BE BUILT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
08:43:09 ADDRESS IT AND MORE?
08:43:11 I DOESN'T GET THAT.
08:43:20 THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAID THAT THE GANDY OVERPASS WILL ONLY
08:43:23 REDUCE IT BY 30%, NOT BY 40%.
08:43:26 THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD OFFER TO YOU GENTLEMEN IS
08:43:29 THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR -- WERE TAKEN BETWEEN 7 AND 89
08:43:38 A.M.
08:43:39 IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, MY DOCUMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY
08:43:41 HIGHLIGHTED THE MacDILL GATE.
08:43:43 THE MacDILL GATE TIMES ARE FROM 6:00 TO 8:00.
08:43:46 SO BY THEM LEAVING OUT THAT EARLY SHIFT AND THAT LATER
08:43:51 SHIFT, BECAUSE THE HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES IN THE AFTERNOON
08:43:54 ARE FROM 3 TO 5.
08:43:56 SO SOUTH TAMPA TAKES 14,000 PEOPLE TO GET INTO
08:43:59 MacDILL THAT WORK THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
08:44:08 BUT THESE PEOPLE LEFT OUT TWO HOURS OF PEEK TEAM.
08:44:13 IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOUTH OF GANDY.
08:44:15 THEY ARE NOT SITTING THERE BETWEEN 8 AND 9 IN THE MORNING
08:44:17 AND THEY ARE NOT SITTING THERE BETWEEN 5 AND 6 IN THE
08:44:21 EVENING.
08:44:21 THEY ARE SITTING THERE BETWEEN 6 AND 7 IN THE MORNING,
08:44:24 AND BETWEEN 3 AND 4 IN THE AFTERNOON.
08:44:28 YOU CAN'T GET ANY CLOSER THAN OKLAHOMA TO THAT BASE AT
08:44:32 6:00 IN THE MORNING.
08:44:34 YOU CAN'T GET ANY CLOSER, INTERBAY HAS BEEN BACKED UP FOR
08:44:39 YEARS.
08:44:40 ALL THE WAY TO WESTSHORE.
08:44:42 SO YOU TELL ME THAT THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE VALID.
08:44:45 THEY ARE NOT.
08:44:46 THEY CAN'T BE WHEN THEY ARE LEAVING OUT TWO HOURS OF
08:44:48 TRAFFIC TIME A DAY.
08:44:50 AND I'M SORRY IF I AM BORING YOU.
08:44:53 I ALSO HAD A HUGE CONCERN.
08:44:56 THERE SEEMS TO BE A LAWSUIT WITH CSX AND CSX SAYS SO WE
08:45:03 ARE GOING TO PUT DRIVEWAYS ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS SO
08:45:06 WHEN THE GATE DOESN'T OPEN, SOMEBODY COMES HOME DRUNK,
08:45:10 WHATEVER, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO SIT?
08:45:12 ARE THEY GOING TO SIT ON THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS?
08:45:15 AND CSX ACTUALLY SAID IN THEIR LET TER PROPERTY TWO DOORS
08:45:18 DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FACILITY IS A HAZARDOUS
08:45:24 PLANT.
08:45:24 SO SOMEBODY COMES HOME DRUNK, THEY SIT ON THE TRACKS
08:45:26 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T READY THE GATE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I
08:45:31 HATE IT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS?
08:45:33 THAT CAR IS SITTING THERE.
08:45:36 SOMEBODY FELL ASLEEP, THEN WHAT DO WE HAVE?
08:45:38 WE HAVE A CSX, WE HAVE A -- I CAN'T EVEN LOOK UP THE
08:45:42 INFORMATION ON THAT COMPANY.
08:45:44 SO YOU WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS.
08:45:46 I COULDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION ON IT.
08:45:48 I'M SORRY IF I SOUND A LITTLE CRAZY.
08:45:50 >> NO COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE.
08:46:00 >> NO ROOM AT OUR SCHOOLS.
08:46:01 ANDERSON AND ROBINSON ARE COMPLETELY MAXED OUT BEFORE
08:46:06 THESE APARTMENTS ARE BUILT.
08:46:10 LET'S SEE.
08:46:24 YOU PUT SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
08:46:26 HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE IF THERE'S A
08:46:28 HURRICANE?
08:46:28 SERIOUSLY, I AM JUST TRYING TO GET TO MY HOUSE IN THE
08:46:32 EVENING, FOUR LIGHT CYCLES.
08:46:34 I STOPPED AT WISCONSIN.
08:46:37 I'M SORRY.
08:46:39 WISCONSIN. ANYWAY, I STOPPED THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO
08:46:42 GET THROUGH THE LIGHT CYCLE AT GANDY.
08:46:48 WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE ROOM.
08:46:50 OH, I ALMOST FORGOT, WE LIVE NO THREE BEDROOM.
08:46:53 WE HAVE NO FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.
08:46:56 WE HAVE NO FRESH MEATS SOUTH OF GANDY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
08:46:59 AND, I MEAN, YOU KEEP BUILDING HOUSES AND BRINGING PEOPLE
08:47:04 IN, BUT THERE'S NOBODY TO FEED THEM.
08:47:12 PLEASE DON'T LET THESE PEOPLE BUILD THESE APARTMENTS.
08:47:15 WAIT A COUPLE YEARS.
08:47:16 WAIT UNTIL EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PERMITTED, HAS BEEN BUILT,
08:47:20 AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEN.
08:47:22 PLEASE DON'T DO THIS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
08:47:24 WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T HOLD ANY MORE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
08:47:27 WE CAN'T HOLD ANY MORE CONSTRUCTION.
08:47:31 WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THE TIME.
08:47:43 I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
08:47:44 ON THAT LAST PAINFUL, IT SAYS THE PD DOES NOT PROMOTE
08:47:49 EFFICIENT USE OF THIS AND PROMOTE PLAN DIVERSIFICATIONS
08:47:53 AND INTEGRATIONS OF USES, STRUCTURE SECTION 27-136.
08:47:57 I'M STILL FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT CITY PLAN WAS.
08:47:59 I JUST LOOKED AT IT TODAY.
08:48:01 SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
08:48:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
08:48:05 BY THE WAY, ARE THOSE TWO CHILDREN YOUR KIDS?
08:48:07 >> YES, SIR.
08:48:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TOP COMPLIMENT THEM.
08:48:09 THEY BEHAVED VERY WELL TODAY.
08:48:11 JUST TO COMPLIMENT YOU TWO KIDS.
08:48:14 THANK YOU.
08:48:14 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:48:15 >> I'M JEAN STROMEYER, SOUTH OF INTERBAY, SOUTH OF GANDY.
08:48:26 I AM GOING TO ZERO IN ON JUST THE ONE ISSUE THAT WE ARE
08:48:29 DEALING WITH, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 10.
08:48:32 I'LL COME BACK LATER FOR NUMBER 12 BECAUSE THAT ONE IS
08:48:35 REALLY EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
08:48:37 SO I REQUEST ON BEHALF OF ME AND I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF
08:48:42 OF MY NEIGHBORS BUT I CAN ONLY BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME THAT
08:48:44 THEY DON'T WANT THIS BUILDING.
08:48:46 SO WE ASK THAT YOU REJECT IT FOR NOW.
08:48:49 AGAIN, WHAT SHE SAID, JUST TO LET EVERYTHING SETTLE.
08:48:52 LET THE DUST SETTLE.
08:48:54 WE CANNOT -- THE FAMILY ROADS, THEY SAY, WELL, WE GOT A
08:48:59 LITTLE SOMETHING.
08:49:00 THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
08:49:02 WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF THIS.
08:49:03 NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO MITIGATE.
08:49:05 WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU $17,000 FOR YOUR 358 UNITS
08:49:08 THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN WHATEVER MONEY.
08:49:10 THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
08:49:11 THAT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
08:49:13 WE NEED THIS PROBLEM SOLVED BEFORE WE BUILD MORE.
08:49:16 CSX LITIGATION, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ALL OF THAT.
08:49:19 BUT THE ROADS AND ALL THAT, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
08:49:23 IT'S TOO OVERWHELMING.
08:49:24 AND THEY WERE SAYING, WELL, THIS HAS BEEN PERMITTED, THIS
08:49:27 HAS BEEN PERMITTED.
08:49:28 JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS PERMITTED BEFORE ILLEGALLY IN
08:49:32 A LOT OF OUR OPINIONS, IT WAS PERMITTED JUST RUBBER
08:49:35 STAMP.
08:49:35 YOU KNOW, ANYBODY AT THE SECRETARY'S DESK IS RUBBER
08:49:40 STAMPING ALL THESE PERMITS, WHICH IS INCORRECT.
08:49:42 IT WAS NOT THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE DOWN SOUTH OF
08:49:46 GANDY.
08:49:46 WE ARE NOT ANYWHERE ELSE.
08:49:48 IT'S VERY UNIQUE DOWN THERE.
08:49:50 SO THE MONEY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MITIGATING 17,000,
08:49:53 37,000, THAT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM ON GETTING IN
08:49:58 AND OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
08:50:00 PARTICULARLY IN A HURRICANE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
08:50:02 AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, NOT HYPE
08:50:07 RISES.
08:50:08 WE ARE NOT LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA.
08:50:09 WE ARE NOT VENICE BEACH.
08:50:11 WE ARE SOUTH OF GANDY.
08:50:14 VERY, AS SHE SAID, JUST BLUE COLLAR, AND WE ARE JUST
08:50:18 REGULAR FOLKS.
08:50:18 SO IF SOME OF YOU APPROVED SOMETHING BEFORE, IT DOESN'T
08:50:23 MATTER.
08:50:24 SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN THEIR SPEECH THE EXCEPTION AREA.
08:50:29 THIS IS NOT AN EXCEPTION.
08:50:30 JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT IT TO BE AN EXCEPTION, IT DOESN'T
08:50:33 FIT THE DEFINITION FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT AN
08:50:36 EXCEPTION IS.
08:50:36 SO I THINK WE NEED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST SAY NO FOR
08:50:40 NOW, AND LET US DO SOME SERIOUS SOUL SEARCHING HERE.
08:50:45 ALL THIS BUILDING, EVERYBODY IS SO BIG ON CLIMATE CHANGE,
08:50:49 WHETHER I AM ON NOT.
08:50:51 CLIMATE CHANGE HAPPENS BECAUSE THERE'S NO GREEN.
08:50:54 WE NEED TO HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE.
08:50:55 EVERYTHING DOESN'T NEED TO BE A PIECE OF CEMENT ON THE
08:50:58 GROUND.
08:50:59 IT JUST DOESN'T.
08:51:00 AND I DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT.
08:51:01 PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA ANYMORE.
08:51:04 WE WERE THE GHETTO FOR A LONG TIME OF SOUTH TAMPA.
08:51:07 SOUTH OF GANDY WAS THE GHETTO.
08:51:09 NOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS OUR PROPERTIES, AND IS
08:51:13 FORCING US REGULAR FOLKS OUT.
08:51:15 IT'S JUST FORCING US OUT AND I THINK THAT'S WRONG.
08:51:18 FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON THE WATER WITH NO
08:51:20 ACCESS, NO PARKING?
08:51:21 OKAY, WE HAVE A SIDEWALK.
08:51:22 THAT DOESN'T GIVE US ACCESS OR PARKING LIKE --
08:51:26 [BELL SOUNDS]
08:51:27 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
08:51:28 AND I ASK THAT YOU SAY NO.
08:51:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
08:51:32 NEXT SPEAKER.
08:51:33 STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
08:51:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
08:51:47 IS MR. MEADOWS HERE?
08:51:49 FOUR MINUTES, PLEASE.
08:51:50 >> GOOD EVENING.
08:51:51 MY NAME IS JEFFREY CARL MITUFSKI, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
08:51:55 GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
08:51:58 MY DISTRICT GOES FROM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD INCLUDING THE
08:52:01 PROJECT ALL THE WAY OVER TO MacDILL, FROM GANDY DOWN
08:52:05 TO PORT TAMPA.
08:52:07 I AM A REAL ESTATE BROKER.
08:52:09 I HAVE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR TEN YEARS.
08:52:11 I'M ALSO A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.
08:52:16 MY INTENT UP HERE IS TO ASK YOU GUYS TO HUMBLY DENY THE
08:52:20 PROJECT FROM GOING IG TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
08:52:25 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE SEE IS SOME MORE TIME TO WORK OUT
08:52:29 SOME OF THE PROBLEMS AND THE KINKS THAT WE HAD HERE.
08:52:32 SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HEARD THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED
08:52:35 THE DEVELOPERS, THEY QUITE FRANKLY STRUGGLED WITH THE
08:52:38 ANSWERS.
08:52:39 WE TALKED ABOUT MIXED USE.
08:52:40 I LIVE IN THAT AREA.
08:52:42 THIS CONCEPT OF MIXED USE IS KIND OF MORE OF A FAIRY TALE
08:52:48 IN MY MANED.
08:52:49 THESE RESTAURANTS WERE THERE LONG BEFORE THIS NEW
08:52:52 DEVELOPMENT CAME IN.
08:52:53 THERE IS NO SHOPPING.
08:52:54 THERE ARE NO PLACES TO GO GRAB FOOD.
08:52:57 THERE ARE NO RESTAURANTS.
08:52:58 THERE IS NO GROCERY STORES.
08:53:00 IN THE MARINA DISTRICT THEY ARE BUILDING DUCK POINT AND
08:53:04 WHATEVER THE OTHER AREAS THEY ARE CALLING THEM.
08:53:06 I WAS AT THE DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY.
08:53:10 BUILD THEM TWO OR THREE YEARS OF BEING IN EXISTENCE SO WE
08:53:13 ARE PUTTING THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS INTERSECTION.
08:53:17 WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET THEIR FOOD AT?
08:53:19 THE NEXT POINT, TRAFFIC.
08:53:21 DRIVING.
08:53:21 THE NEXT GENTLEMAN FROM 33607, HE DOESN'T LIVE DOWN IN
08:53:26 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:53:27 HE'S NOT THERE.
08:53:28 THEY DID THIS TRAFFIC STUDY, AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS
08:53:30 DONE IN HOURS IN WHICH THE PEAK TIME OF VEHICLES WASN'T
08:53:35 ACCOUNTED FOR.
08:53:36 I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE DENIED SO WE CAN ACTUALLY DO A
08:53:39 TRAFFIC STUDY IN THE PEAK TIMES AND WHEN THIS TRAFFIC
08:53:41 ACTUALLY OCCURS.
08:53:43 SOME OF THE FOLKS OTHER COUNCIL LIVE IN THE AREA.
08:53:50 IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.
08:53:51 ADDING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MORE PEOPLE DOWN INTO
08:53:54 THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR US TO
08:53:57 FIGURE OUT THE TRUE IMPACTS OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
08:53:59 HAPPEN.
08:54:00 WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANOTHER THOUSAND RESIDENTS COMING IN
08:54:02 WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS THERE.
08:54:04 WE NEED MORE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO
08:54:07 WITH THE TRAFFIC.
08:54:08 WE TALK ABOUT THE TRAILS AND THE WALKWAYS.
08:54:10 I RIDE MY BAKE THROUGH THERE.
08:54:12 I DRIVE THROUGH THERE.
08:54:13 I DON'T THINK ANYONE OTHER THAN ME KNOWS YOU CAN GET IN.
08:54:17 IT'S GOING TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BLOCKED OFF FROM
08:54:19 THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS.
08:54:21 MY BIGGER CONCERN THAT I HAVE HERE IN THE LAST MINUTE AND
08:54:24 30 IS THERE'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING
08:54:27 POURED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY ARE BEING POURED
08:54:30 DIRECTLY RIGHT WHERE IT AFFECTS THEM.
08:54:33 THE BIGGER EFFECT IS ON THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS OF SOUTH OF
08:54:35 GANDY, SOME TWO OR THREE GENERATIONS.
08:54:39 WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THEM?
08:54:40 WHAT ARE DEVELOPERS DOING TO HELP OUT THE SURROUNDING
08:54:43 NEIGHBORHOODS?
08:54:44 MY REQUEST IS WE DENY THE PROJECT, TO ALLOW THESE NICE
08:54:49 DEVELOPERS TO COME MEET WITH -- WITH THE LOCAL CIVIC
08:54:52 ASSOCIATIONS.
08:54:53 YOU HAVE GOT MY GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE PORT TAMPA
08:54:56 CIVIC ASSOCIATION, BAYSIDE WEST.
08:54:59 I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR THEM TO COME MEET
08:55:02 WITH US SO WE CAN ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS TOGETHER.
08:55:05 WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS WITH THEM.
08:55:07 WE UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF THE PURSE.
08:55:09 WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP THE PROJECT.
08:55:11 THEY HAVE GOT THE MONEY.
08:55:11 BUT WE HAVE GOT THE PEOPLE.
08:55:14 AND MY REQUEST IS WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
08:55:17 JUST TO MEET WITH THEM JUST SO WE CAN SIT TOGETHER AND
08:55:20 HAVE SOME CIVIL CONVERSATIONS.
08:55:22 WE DON'T WANT TO COME UP HERE AND CAUSE A RUCKUS AND DO
08:55:25 THIS.
08:55:25 BUT IF IT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE TO BRING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS
08:55:28 AND THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD DO THAT.
08:55:32 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:55:33 >> NEXT, PLEASE.
08:55:39 >> MY NAME IS CAROL ANN BENNETT. I GREW UP SOUTH OF
08:55:44 GANDY.
08:55:44 I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
08:55:46 I WANT TO SAY REAL QUICKLY I WAS LISTENING TO THE
08:55:49 NONETHELESS OF WHAT THEY ARE PAYING TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC
08:55:51 AND ROAD PROBLEMS, AND YOU ALL DEAL WITH BUDGETS.
08:55:54 YOU KNOW WHAT THIS COSTS.
08:55:55 I MEAN, THAT'S A JOKE.
08:55:57 IT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET.
08:55:58 IT WON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING.
08:56:00 BUT ANYHOW, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS SOUTH TAMPA IS
08:56:03 GEOGRAPHICALLY UNIQUE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:56:06 A LITTLE PENINSULA WITH ONE OFFICIAL EVACUATION ROUTE,
08:56:10 DALE MABRY, WHICH FLOODS DURING NORMAL SEASON RAINFALL.
08:56:14 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A PICTURE I TOOK.
08:56:24 THIS IS JUST REGULAR RAIN THAT WE HAVE REGULAR RAIN, NO
08:56:27 BIG DEAL.
08:56:27 IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, HERE IS ALL THE DEBRIS, WITH THE
08:56:30 FLOODING LPD UP OVER THE CURB.
08:56:33 THIS WAS NOT A BIG STORM. THIS WAS NOTHING OUT OF THE
08:56:36 ORDINARY.
08:56:37 THE EXACT SAME SPOT, RIGHT BEHIND IT.
08:56:39 THERE YOU GO.
08:56:43 EVACUATION ROUTE.
08:56:45 THAT SIGN WAS PUT UP THERE JUST BECAUSE IT FLOODS SO
08:56:48 FREQUENTLY WITH NOTHING EXCEPTIONAL.
08:56:56 NO ONE CAN TELL ME -- --
08:57:04 [NO ENCODER] [LOST AUDIO]
08:57:22 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
08:57:23 THE REQUIRED ANALYSIS OF EVACUATION TIMES IS NOT BEING
08:57:26 DONE.
08:57:27 BUILDING AFTER BUILDING IS BEING APPROVED PACKING MORE
08:57:29 AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ONTO THIS LITTLE PENINSULA WITH
08:57:32 NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER OF ITS IMPACT ON THIS COMMUNITY
08:57:36 IN AN EMERGENCY.
08:57:38 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PREDICTS THAT THE POPULATION
08:57:40 OF SOUTH TAMPA WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 78,000 IN 2040.
08:57:46 ON APRIL 1st OF 2018, THE POPULATION WAS OVER 86,000
08:57:52 PEOPLE.
08:57:53 ON APRIL 1st, 2018, THE POPULATION WAS 8,564 PEOPLE
08:58:00 OVER WHAT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE 21 YEARS FROM NOW IN
08:58:05 2040.
08:58:11 HOUSTON HAD BIG GROWTH FOR YEARS WITH NO REGARD FOR
08:58:14 FLOODING.
08:58:14 THEY ARE NOW UNABLE TO EVACUATE THE CITY.
08:58:16 WHEN THEY HAD A HURRICANE AND THEY TRIED TO EVACUATE,
08:58:19 PEOPLE WEATHERED THE HURRICANE IN THEIR CAR.
08:58:22 DURING THE NEXT HURRICANE PEOPLE DIED DUE TO THE
08:58:25 FLOODING.
08:58:25 THE PAVING OF PERMEABLE SURFACES IN HOUSTON IS AGREED TO
08:58:30 BE THE CAUSE OF MASSIVE FLOODING.
08:58:32 THIS PROJECT IS AN EVACUATION ZONE A, IT'S IN THE COASTAL
08:58:35 HIGH HAZARD AREA WHICH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS
08:58:40 SHOULD HAVE NO NET INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
08:58:42 [BELL SOUNDS]
08:58:44 WHO IS KEEPING AN EYE ON THIS?
08:58:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
08:58:48 >> WHO IS KEEPING AN A ON THIS, MAKING SURE THAT THE
08:58:51 CITIZENS OF THE CITY CAN BE EVACUATED SAFELY, AND WE
08:58:54 DON'T END UP DYING?
08:58:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
08:58:57 >> WHOSE JOB IS IT TO PROTECT US?
08:58:59 >> THANK YOU.
08:59:00 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:59:00 >> MY NAME IS REBECCA SNYDER, CSX SUPERVISOR OF REAL
08:59:20 ESTATE OUT OF JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.
08:59:22 THIS IS MY COUNTERPART MR. SCOTT WILLIS, OUR PROJECTS
08:59:27 DEPARTMENT, ALSO FROM JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.
08:59:34 WE ARE HERE TO FOLLOW UP WITH AN OBJECTION WE PREVIOUSLY
08:59:38 MADE.
08:59:39 AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO
08:59:41 ANSWER.
08:59:42 SO AS THE CITY IS AWARE, CSX'S PRIMARY CONCERN WITH THE
08:59:46 REZONING AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AT THE SITE OF THE
08:59:48 PROPERTY RELATES TO THE SAFETY OF THE PROPOSED ACCESS TO
08:59:50 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IT CROSSES THE SPUR WHICH SERVES
08:59:59 CARGO, THE PRODUCER FOR THE LOCAL WATER TREATMENT
09:00:01 FACILITIES.
09:00:04 WE ARE A FEDERALLY CHARTERED RAILROAD WHICH MEANS WE HAVE
09:00:06 TO SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS, WE HAVE A COMMON CARRIER
09:00:11 OBLIGATION TO DO SO.
09:00:12 AS LONG AS THERE'S CUSTOMERS ON THIS PENINSULA, WE WOULD
09:00:15 HAVE TO RUN OUR TRAINS THERE.
09:00:19 CSX IS CONCERNED WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT RELATES TO
09:00:22 THE LACK OF ANY SAFETY MEASURES OR CONSIDERATIONS TO
09:00:25 ADDRESS THE PROPOSED CROSSINGS TO BE USED AS THE SOLE
09:00:29 ACCESS TO THIS 358 UNIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
09:00:34 THIS PROPOSED REZONING ALONG WITH THE CONCOMITANT MASSIVE
09:00:39 INCREASE OF USE OF THE CROSSINGS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER
09:00:42 PUBLIC SERVICES, WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OR PROVISION OR
09:00:46 PROTECTIONS LIKE SIGNALS, CROSSING ARMS, ANYTHING THAT
09:00:50 HELPS GUIDE THE PUBLIC SAFELY OVER THE TRACKS, PRESENTS
09:00:53 SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CONCERNS.
09:00:58 THAN THE CITY IS ALSO AWARE THAT SINCE BECOMING AWARE OF
09:01:01 THE PROPOSAL AND THE REZONING, CSX HAS ENCOURAGED TO
09:01:07 CONSIDER APPLICATION TO MAKE THE SUBJECT CROSSINGS PUBLIC
09:01:09 OR MAKE OTHER PROVISIONS FOR SAFETY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY
09:01:12 OF THE RESIDENTS.
09:01:15 THE CURRENT PLAN FOR REZONING HOWEVER DOES NOT INCLUDE
09:01:18 ANY SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE AT GRADE CROSSINGS.
09:01:22 ACCORDINGLY CSX HAS SEPARATELY EXPLORED NUMEROUS OPTIONS
09:01:27 AND DISCUSSED OPTION WAS THE CITY AND FLORIDA DEPARTMENT
09:01:29 OF TRANSPORTATION.
09:01:30 REGARDING SAFETY CONCERNS, IT'S CSX'S UNDERSTANDING THAT
09:01:33 ALL THE PARTIES SHARE CSX'S CONCERNS WITH THE SAFE ACCESS
09:01:38 OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
09:01:38 BASED ON ALL THE DISCUSSIONS IN AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE
09:01:41 SAFETY CONCERNS OF ALL AND RESOLVE CSX'S OBJECTIONS, CSX
09:01:47 HAS PRESENTED A PROPOSAL ON THE 12TH OF NOVEMBER.
09:01:50 WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE TO THAT AND WE
09:01:52 RECOGNIZE IT WAS JUST THIS WEEK, BUT WE BELIEVE WITHOUT
09:01:56 THE ELIMINATION OF THE AT-GRADE CROSSINGS THE PROPOSAL
09:02:03 THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED WILL REASONABLY ADDRESS OUR
09:02:05 CONCERNS AS OF TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE, BUT
09:02:11 SHOULD WE GET A RESPONSE IN THE PROPOSAL WE ARE ABLE TO
09:02:15 DEAL WITH, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW THE OBJECTION.
09:02:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:02:19 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:02:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD AND BREATHE NOW.
09:02:22 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:02:24 >> THREE MINUTES IS A SHORT TIME.
09:02:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR OBJECTION IS TO THE WHOLE FRONT, NOT
09:02:29 NECESSARILY TO WHERE THEIR ENTRANCE AND EXITS ARE.
09:02:31 IT WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR THE WHOLE FRONTAGE OF THE
09:02:34 PROPERTY?
09:02:35 >> WELL, OUR INITIAL OBJECTION WAS TO THESE BEING PRIVATE
09:02:40 DRIVEWAYS, AND NOT PUBLIC ROADWAYS, WITH PUBLIC
09:02:43 PROTECTIONS, SUBJECT TO THINGS LIKE FDOT STANDARDS FOR
09:02:48 SAFETY PROVISIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THIS LEVEL AND
09:02:52 NUMBER AND VOLUME OF PEOPLE, RESIDENTS, THEIR FAMILIES,
09:02:55 AS WELL AS EMERGENCY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SERVICES.
09:02:58 SO AS PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS, THESE DRIVEWAYS CAN BE BLOCKED,
09:03:04 MEANING YOU CAN'T GET AMBULANCES IN AND OUT, YOU CAN'T
09:03:07 GET PEOPLE OUT TO GO TO HOSPITALS, YOU CAN'T GO TO
09:03:10 SCHOOLS, YOU CAN'T LOAD THE BUSES, ET CETERA.
09:03:13 AS PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS, THE SAFETY MEASURES ARE DETERMINED
09:03:19 THROUGH VARIOUS THINGS LIKE DIAGNOSTICS BETWEEN THE
09:03:23 PARTIES, THE CONSULTANTS, BUT THERE'S NOT A GOVERNING
09:03:29 STANDARD OR REGULATION FOR WHAT HAS TO GO IN PLACE TO
09:03:33 MAKE IT SAFE, QUOTE-UNQUOTE.
09:03:35 WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SAYING WHAT MAKES A ROADWAY
09:03:38 SAFE.
09:03:39 WE ARE A RAILROAD.
09:03:40 SO WITHOUT IF GUIDANCE AND ASSISTANCE TO MAKE THIS
09:03:49 CONTAINED OF ACCESS SAFE WE WERE OBJECTING TO IT BEING A
09:03:52 PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.
09:03:52 IT'S NOT JUST ONE USER.
09:03:54 IT'S NOT JUST A FARMER OR ONE INDUSTRY.
09:03:58 IT'S CLOSE TO 400 INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES.
09:04:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:04:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
09:04:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:06 APPRECIATE IT.
09:04:07 ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 10?
09:04:10 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
09:04:12 OKAY.
09:04:13 REBUTTAL.
09:04:14 OH, I'M SORRY, MRS. KERT.
09:04:19 YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?
09:04:21 >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST WANTED TO HIT ON A COUPLE LEGAL
09:04:24 POINTS BEFORE YOU HEARD FROM REBUTTAL AND EVENTUALLY
09:04:26 CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:04:27 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP
09:04:30 AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL, AND I KNOW YOU ALL
09:04:33 WHAT CONSTRAINTS ARE PUT ON YOU WHEN YOU HEAR THESE
09:04:35 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
09:04:37 BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR MEMBERS OF THE
09:04:39 PUBLIC AND FOR THE RECORD SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT
09:04:41 YOU ARE UNDER.
09:04:41 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE
09:04:44 OVERCROWDING OF SCHOOLS.
09:04:45 WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY BUT WE DO
09:04:50 HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.
09:04:51 HOWEVER SCHOOL CONCURRENCY IS NOT TRIGGERED AT THE
09:04:54 REZONING TIME.
09:04:55 IT'S TRIGGERED AT A TIME WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE SITE
09:04:58 APPROVAL PROCESS, OR THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
09:05:01 AT THAT POINT EVEN IF THIS IS APPROVED, IF THERE IS NOT
09:05:05 SCHOOL CAPACITY IN PLACE AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN'T GET
09:05:07 THEIR BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THAT'S MITIGATED BUT THAT'S
09:05:11 NOT A BASIS FOR DENIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY
09:05:14 IN PLACE FOR AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
09:05:16 ALSO, WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS AN ECONOMICALLY VIABLE
09:05:22 PROPOSAL.
09:05:24 THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A
09:05:26 GOOD ECONOMIC DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER ON HOW
09:05:29 THEY WANT TO USE THEIR LAND.
09:05:30 IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE AND
09:05:33 CONSISTENT WITH YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND
09:05:35 YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:05:36 IT'S ALSO NOT A BASIS FOR DENIAL THAT THERE THEY'RE MAY
09:05:38 BE ANOTHER USE THAT'S NEEDED OUT IN THAT AREA, THAT
09:05:41 PERHAPS COUNCIL OR THE DEVELOPERS -- OR THE NEIGHBORS
09:05:46 WOULD RATHER SEE.
09:05:47 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT HAS MET
09:05:49 THEIR BURDEN TO USE THEIR LAND AS THEY WISH, AND THEIR
09:05:52 BURDEN IS TO SHOW BY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE,
09:05:55 WHICH IS EXPERT TESTIMONY OR FACT-BASED TESTIMONY THAT
09:05:58 THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,
09:06:02 OR YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:06:06 ALSO, AS FOR THE LAST PORTION, WE CANNOT MANDATE THAT
09:06:10 THESE BE PUBLIC ROAD.
09:06:12 THAT WOULD HAVE AN EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS AND WE CAN'T DO
09:06:15 THAT FOR REZONING.
09:06:17 >>LUIS VIERA: MRS. KERT, THERE WERE STATEMENTS MADE ABOUT
09:06:20 HURRICANE EVACUATIONS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
09:06:21 HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
09:06:25 WE CAN PROPERLY CONSIDER IN THIS CASE ON THAT ISSUE?
09:06:29 >>REBECCA KERT: THE TESTIMONY WAS THAT THERE WERE
09:06:32 CONCERNS ABOUT EVACUATION.
09:06:34 THE CONCERNS ARE IN FACT OPINION.
09:06:37 THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT
09:06:41 SHELTER SPACE BE PROVIDED AND IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION
09:06:46 STAFF EVIDENCE IN FACT THEY ARE MITIGATING FOR SHELTER
09:06:49 SPACE.
09:06:51 >>LUIS VIERA: SO THAT'S BEEN COMPLIED.
09:06:52 OKAY.
09:06:52 THANK YOU, MRS. KERT.
09:06:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES IS RECOGNIZED.
09:06:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN REFERENCE TO THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY
09:07:01 CSX, IT TALKED ABOUT THOSE TRACKS.
09:07:10 ARE THOSE TRACKS OR ANY PORTION OF THOSE TRACKS IMPEDING
09:07:14 THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY PER SE?
09:07:18 IF WE ARE SAYING THAT CSX, THEY CAN'T OPERATE?
09:07:25 I AM TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
09:07:26 IF THEY ARE OBJECTING TO THIS PROPOSAL, I'M JUST
09:07:29 WONDERING, ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE
09:07:33 TRACKS, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT, IF THE
09:07:37 FEDERAL SIDE IS SAYING THE TRACKS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THAT.
09:07:40 >>REBECCA KERT: THIS APPROVAL, IF THERE IS AN APPROVAL
09:07:46 OF THIS REZONING, IT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH CSX.
09:07:52 CSX IS GOING TO HAVE WHATEVER RIGHT THEY HAVE.
09:07:54 IN FACT THEY ARE LITIGATING THOSE RIGHTS.
09:07:56 AND MY ADVICE TO YOU IS WE NOT GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
09:07:59 WE'LL LET A COURT DECIDE.
09:08:01 AND IF THE COURT DECIDES THESE ACCESS POINTS DON'T WORK
09:08:03 THEN THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH OTHER ACCESS
09:08:06 POINTS, A FINANCED THOSE SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE
09:08:09 APPLICATION BEFORE YOU, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK
09:08:12 BEFORE YOU ALL OVER AGAIN.
09:08:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTIME FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE REBUTTAL?
09:08:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, PLEASE.
09:08:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
09:08:25 >>: A COUPLE THINGS.
09:08:28 FOCUSING ON WHAT IS MIXED USE, WHY DO WE HAVE THAT
09:08:31 CATEGORY?
09:08:34 I THINK I READ CMU-35.
09:08:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.
09:08:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THE ONLY MIX
09:08:43 IN THIS IS SOME SINGLE-FAMILY MIX WITH SOME MULTIFAMILY.
09:08:46 BUT NO RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
09:08:51 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT.
09:08:54 AND ALSO IN REGARD TO THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES
09:08:59 THAT ARE REFERENCED IN YOUR REPORT.
09:09:04 COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.1 SAYS DIRECT FURTHER
09:09:08 POPULATION CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
09:09:12 AREAS SO AS TO ACHIEVE NO NET INCREASE IN OVERALL
09:09:15 RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITH THE CHHA.
09:09:22 ALSO 1.16 UNDER THAT PROVISION SPEAKS TO LIMITING NEW
09:09:26 DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE USES
09:09:29 THAT ARE VESTED.
09:09:32 1.2, MAINTAIN AND REDUCE HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES WITHIN
09:09:37 THE CITY AS A COMPONENT OF MAINTAINING AND REDUCING
09:09:40 EVACUATION TIMES.
09:09:42 SO LET'S START WITH MIXED USE.
09:09:47 THEN GO TO COASTAL HIGH HAZARD.
09:09:49 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THAT.
09:09:51 THE MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
09:09:54 THEY DON'T REQUIRE MIXED USE.
09:09:56 THEY ARE ENCOURAGED AND PROMOTE MIXED USE.
09:09:58 SO EARLIER TONIGHT, PRESENTED A CASE BEFORE COUNCIL THAT
09:10:02 WAS ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION, AND
09:10:06 IT HAD ONE USE, AND THAT'S ALL OVER THE CITY WE HAVE
09:10:09 THAT, WHERE THEY UTILIZE THIS CATEGORY, AND THEY MIGHT
09:10:12 NOT HAVE A MIXED USE IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY BUT
09:10:17 THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY CERTAINLY GIVES THEM THE
09:10:20 OPPORTUNITY AND IT ENCOURAGES APPLICANTS TO HAVE MORE
09:10:22 THAN ONE USE IN THAT DESIGNATION.
09:10:27 AND WE EVEN PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND BONUSES AS YOU ARE
09:10:31 AWARE FOR HAVING THE MIXED USES WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION.
09:10:35 DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
09:10:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE MISLEADING
09:10:40 THAT WE CALL IT A MIXED USE IF IN FACT WE ARE NOT
09:10:44 DEMANDING IT.
09:10:45 >> BECAUSE IT ALLOWS IT.
09:10:46 NOT ALL DESIGNATIONS ALLOW MIXED USE.
09:10:49 RESIDENTIAL 10 DOESN'T A LOWRY PARK MIXED USE.
09:10:51 ONLY ALLOWS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
09:10:53 BUT IN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, YOU COULD HAVE A
09:10:56 SINGLE PG STRUCTURE IF THE APPLICANT SO DESIRES, OR YOU
09:11:01 CAN HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT HAS MULTIPLE USES, WHICH WE SEE
09:11:05 IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
09:11:08 WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE APPLICANT AND UP TO THE MARKET TO
09:11:10 DECIDE WHAT IS FEASIBLE FOR THAT PROJECT.
09:11:13 AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT REQUIRE A MIX OF USES
09:11:19 WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
09:11:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND HOW ABOUT TRIP CAPTURE?
09:11:25 EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT TRIP CAPTURE AS BEING A BENEFIT OF
09:11:28 MIXED USE. THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY TRIP CAPTURE BECAUSE
09:11:30 EVERYBODY LIVES THERE AND LEAVES, RIGHT?
09:11:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: RIGHT.
09:11:34 SO THAT'S MORE OF A TRANSPORTATION QUESTION WHEN THEY
09:11:36 ANALYZE THESE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS.
09:11:39 I'M NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE HOW THAT PLAYS INTO IT FOR THE
09:11:44 MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
09:11:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M JUST SAYING IN REGARDS TO BENEFITS
09:11:49 OF MIXED USE.
09:11:52 ISN'T THAT INHERENTLY PART OF THE BENEFITS OF MIXED USE
09:11:56 AS TO KIND OF LIVE, WORK, PLAY, IN THE SAME SPOT WITHOUT
09:12:00 HAVING TO GET IN YOUR CAR AND GO SOMEWHERE?
09:12:03 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.
09:12:04 THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.
09:12:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COASTAL
09:12:08 MANAGEMENT POLICIES THAT I MADE REFERENCE TO OR YOU MADE
09:12:11 REFERENCE TO IN YOUR REPORT.
09:12:14 THE BASIC OBJECTIVE SAYS THE DIRECT POPULATION
09:12:17 CONCENTRATIONS AWAY TO ACHIEVE IN A NET INCREASE IN
09:12:20 OVERALL DENSITY.
09:12:22 IT APPEARS THAT EVERYTHING ALONG WESTSHORE OVER THE LAST
09:12:25 10 OR 15 YEARS HAS BEEN APPROVED TO INCREASE TREMENDOUS
09:12:31 AMOUNT OF DENSITY IN THE CHHA.
09:12:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.
09:12:35 AND I WILL SAY, I CANNOT SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY BUT IT
09:12:40 IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND MY PROFESSIONAL
09:12:43 RECOLLECTION THAT IN THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
09:12:45 THESE PLAN AMENDMENT, IF AN ITEM IS IN, IF THE PROPERTY
09:12:49 IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA THAT POLICY IS IN OUR
09:12:52 REPORT, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BRING THAT
09:12:56 CONCERN TO THE COUNCIL.
09:12:58 NOW, AND WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.
09:13:02 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THIS IS YOUR OBJECTIVE, WE
09:13:05 ARE NOT THE DECISION MAKERS.
09:13:07 BUT WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING THAT IN OUR REPORT AND THAT WILL
09:13:10 WEIGH INTO OUR FINDING WHETHER IT'S INCONSISTENT OR
09:13:13 CONSISTENT.
09:13:14 AND USUALLY THESE ARE INCONSISTENT WITHIN THE PAST
09:13:17 SEVERAL YEARS.
09:13:18 A LOT OF AREAS MIGHT HAVE ALREADY HAD THESE DESIGNATIONS
09:13:23 WHEN THEY MADE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HOWEVER MANY YEARS
09:13:27 AGO.
09:13:27 AND THEN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA CAME LATER AND WAS
09:13:30 WORKING TOWARDS LIMITING THE DENSITY INCREASES IN THAT
09:13:35 AREA.
09:13:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO OBJECTIVE 1.1.6 AND -- THAT'S
09:13:42 POLICY 1.1.6 AND OBJECTIVE 1.2 WHICH SAYS MAINTAIN AND
09:13:47 REDUCE HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES.
09:13:49 YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED WITH ANY EVIDENCE THAT YOU
09:13:52 HAVE SEEN AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET TONIGHT THAT SPEAKS
09:13:55 TO HOW THEY PLAN TO REDUCE EVACUATION TIMES IN THIS
09:14:00 PROJECT?
09:14:01 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE PEOPLE END UP IN THE
09:14:04 SHELTER BECAUSE YOU MADE REFERENCE TO MITIGATION PAYMENTS
09:14:07 TO THE SHELTER.
09:14:09 BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT GETTING OUT OF THERE.
09:14:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT WOULD BE
09:14:19 CORRECT, YES.
09:14:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:14:21 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:14:25 MS. KERT?
09:14:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO ASK YOU ON THIS, WE HAD --
09:14:35 WE HAD A DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE CSX RAIL IN THIS
09:14:39 HEARING.
09:14:40 AM I WITHIN -- MAY I ASK THEM THE QUESTION IF THERE IS
09:14:44 NOT A DEAL WORKED OUT, BETWEEN CSX AND THE APPLICANT, ON
09:14:52 WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN CROSS THAT, WHEREIN THEIR
09:14:57 PROPOSED ACCESS POINT IS GOING TO BE TO ENTER THIS
09:15:00 PROPERTY?
09:15:02 >>REBECCA KERT: THE --
09:15:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME?
09:15:05 >>REBECCA KERT: I AM FOLLOWING YOU.
09:15:07 REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:15:09 THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED WHERE THEY WANT THEIR ACCESS
09:15:13 POINTS TO BE, AND THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY HAVE A
09:15:18 RIGHT TO ACCESS TO THAT.
09:15:20 IF THE ACCESS POINTS CHANGE AND IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL
09:15:24 CHANGE, IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE OUT AT THAT TIME.
09:15:25 SO I AM NOT SURE THAT'S RELEVANT AT THIS TIME TO YOUR
09:15:28 DECISION.
09:15:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:31 ANYONE ELSE?
09:15:32 OKAY.
09:15:33 REBUTTAL?
09:15:34 IF YOU WISH TO.
09:15:35 JUST KIDDING.
09:15:36 >> I WOULD ASK, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD HAVE A COUPLE
09:15:43 OF EXTRA MINUTES SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY --
09:15:46 >>LUIS VIERA: AND EXTRA TWO MINUTES OR THREE ARE?
09:15:49 >> BUT I HOPE NOT TO.
09:15:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:15:52 >> SORRY.
09:15:54 ELISE BATSEL.
09:15:56 FIRST TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC, TO ADDRESS IT MORE
09:15:59 SPECIFICALLY.
09:15:59 BUT WE RIGHT NOW UNEQUIVOCALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF
09:16:03 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH RESPECT TO TRANSPORTATION.
09:16:05 YOU HAVE THIS TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA.
09:16:09 IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE FEES THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY
09:16:13 CHARGING FOR MITIGATION ARE ADEQUATE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY
09:16:15 TO CHANGE THOSE FEES.
09:16:16 IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY
09:16:18 EXCEPTION AREA IS APPROPRIATE ANY LONGER, THEN YOU AS A
09:16:21 BODY CAN LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THAT.
09:16:23 BUT TO DENY IT THROUGH REZONING BASED ON US COMPLYING
09:16:27 CLEAT COMPLETELY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS, IT
09:16:29 WOULD NOT BE BASED ON SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE.
09:16:33 SECOND, WITH RESPECT TO GREEN SPACE, ONE OF THESE FOLKS
09:16:38 MENTIONED GREEN SPACE.
09:16:39 WE ACTUALLY EXCEED THEIR REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE WITH
09:16:41 RESPECT TO GREEN SPACE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
09:16:47 WITH RESPECT TO THE MIXED USE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
09:16:51 TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE.
09:16:52 IF YOU LOOK AT THESE SPECIFIC MIXED USE REQUIREMENTS AT
09:16:55 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND THE
09:16:59 PLANNING COMMISSION CAN SPEAK TO THIS, IT ENCOURAGES A
09:17:01 MIX OF USES ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
09:17:04 CURRENTLY THERE'S INDUSTRIAL AND THERE'S COMMERCIAL.
09:17:06 THIS WOULD ADD A USE TO RATTLESNAKE POINT TO INCREASE THE
09:17:10 MIXED USE ON THAT POINT WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE
09:17:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONTEMPLATES.
09:17:17 WITH RESPECT TO THE CSX, I AM GOING TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT
09:17:21 SAFETY, THE PLAYER SCOPE OF WHAT YOU CAN CONSIDER.
09:17:27 IN THE CSX LETTER OF OPPOSITION, IT PROVES THE PROJECT
09:17:31 AND I AM GOING TO QUOTE HERE, DUE TO MASSIVE INCREASE IN
09:17:34 DAILY CROSSINGS FOR PUBLIC USE OVER AN ACTIVE INDUSTRIAL
09:17:39 RAIL.
09:17:39 FIRST OF ALL, MASSIVE INCREASE IN DAILY TRIPS.
09:17:42 RECENTLY IN THE LITIGATION, UNDER SWORN TESTIMONY OF CSX,
09:17:48 TRANSPORTATION EXECUTIVE SAID THE TRAIN COMES THREE
09:17:51 TIMES, SUNDAY NIGHT, TUESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY NIGHT
09:17:53 FROM 12 P.M. TO 6 P.M.
09:17:55 SO THAT IS A TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING.
09:17:59 STEVE HENRY CAN SLEEP LATER ABOUT HOW MANY TRIPS.
09:18:01 IN FACT DO YOU HAVE THAT HANDY?
09:18:04 I'M SORRY.
09:18:06 12 P.M. TO 6 A.M.
09:18:08 MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
09:18:08 >> STEVE HENRY, LINKS AND ASSOCIATE.
09:18:17 WE HAVE DONE AN ANALYSIS OF THE HOURLY VOLUMES BASED ON
09:18:20 ITE, AND LOOKING AT IT 12, 13 CARS THAT MAY GO IN AND
09:18:24 OUT, 1:00, 8, 2:00, SIX, 3:00 EIGHT, 4:00, 13, 6:00, 40.
09:18:31 SO IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL
09:18:34 USE THAT DRIVEWAY DURING THE HOURS THAT CSX IS CROSSING
09:18:41 THAT TRACK.
09:18:43 >> ANOTHER POINT THAT'S IMPORTANT FROM THE DEPOSITION IS
09:18:46 THE TRAIN IS ONLY ALLOWED TO GO 10 MILES PER HOUR.
09:18:49 IN ADDITION, CSX HAS DONE AN INTERNAL POLICY TESTIFIED
09:18:53 THAT THEY HAVE TO STOP THE TRAIN AT ALL CROSSINGS, GET
09:18:55 OUT, LIGHT AND HONK THE HORN.
09:18:59 THERE ARE PROCEDURES THERE.
09:19:00 AND ONLY GOING 10 MILES PER HOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
09:19:02 NIGHT THREE TIMES A WEEK, HOPEFULLY WHEN EVERYONE IS
09:19:06 SLEEPING.
09:19:06 PUBLIC USE.
09:19:07 AGAIN THESE CROSSINGS ARE A PRIVATE DRIVE.
09:19:09 THEY ARE PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS.
09:19:11 THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS.
09:19:13 AS THE CITY SAID, THERE IS NO PUBLIC CROSSING HERE.
09:19:18 CSX ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE CROSSING NOT HAVING ADDITIONAL
09:19:21 SAFETY FEATURES.
09:19:22 I REALLY BRIEFLY WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH -- [RUSTLING
09:19:27 PAPERS]
09:19:33 SO THIS IS THE TOP OF THE LANE.
09:19:35 I AM GOING -- YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ROLL WITH ME HERE.
09:19:38 THIS IS THE PORT OF TAMPA.
09:19:40 EVERY SPOT IN RED IS AN AREA WHERE THEY ARE CROSSING A
09:19:43 PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHOUT ARMS AND ADDITIONAL SAFETY
09:19:45 MEASURES.
09:19:45 THEY MAY HAVE TO CROSS THOSE SIGNS BUT THERE ARE NO ARMS,
09:19:49 THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES.
09:19:52 PRESCOTT STREET.
09:19:54 McCOY STREET.
09:19:55 OKLAHOMA STREET.
09:19:56 TYSON AVENUE.
09:19:57 AND I CAN COME BACK AND SHOW YOU A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE
09:19:59 CROSSING THAT IS LITERALLY JUST UP THE STREET FROM OUR
09:20:02 PROPERTY.
09:20:03 WEST PEARL AVENUE.
09:20:04 AND CHURCH STREET.
09:20:05 IF YOU CONTINUE ON, THE SAME LINE RUNS UNDERNEATH THE
09:20:14 CROSSTOWN UNTIL YOU GET INTO DOWNTOWN.
09:20:17 YOU HAVE A PRIVATE CROSSING HERE AT UT.
09:20:19 I AM GOING TO JUST BRIEFLY SHOW YOU THAT CROSSING.
09:20:21 AND MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE CROSSINGS WITHOUT THESE ADDITIONAL
09:20:25 SAFETY FEATURES THAT CSX IS SAYING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE
09:20:28 ON THIS PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.
09:20:42 THIS IS TYSON AVENUE.
09:20:43 OUR PROPERTY IS JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS.
09:20:46 THIS IS LOOKING EAST.
09:20:49 YOU COME ACROSS THE TRACKS GO TO THE NORTH, AND THEN THEY
09:20:52 COME DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY CROSS FROM THE
09:20:55 NORTH PORTION OF THAT STREET DOWN TO THE SOUTH PORTION
09:20:57 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
09:21:00 HERE IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
09:21:03 FACING EAST.
09:21:04 YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TRACKS COME DIRECTLY ACROSS.
09:21:06 THERE'S A LITTLE RAILROAD SIGN.
09:21:08 THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SAFETY FEATURES.
09:21:09 THERE'S NO ARMS THERE.
09:21:14 AND HERE IT IS COMING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
09:21:17 I THINK THAT THERE IS A SIGN RIGHT THERE, BUT IT'S
09:21:20 OBSCURED AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT THERE'S A SIGN.
09:21:23 SO THAT IS WHAT IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT WHAT I JUST TOLD
09:21:27 YOU WITH THE PUBLIC CROSSING.
09:21:29 WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIVATE CROSSING AT UT I POINTED OUT,
09:21:37 YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS IS CASS STREET, AND THIS IS WHERE
09:21:42 CASS STREET IS CROSSING THE TRACKS HERE AT US.
09:21:45 IT'S IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW THERE'S 600 STUDENTS ENROLLED AT
09:21:50 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
09:21:51 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RESTAURANTS COME ACROSS THOSE
09:21:54 TRACKS BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS AREA IS SERVICED BY THIS
09:21:57 WHOLE CAMPUS.
09:21:58 HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SAFETY THAT THOSE STUDENTS ARE
09:22:05 AFFORDED WHEN THE TRACKS COME ACROSS THE ROAD.
09:22:08 THERE'S NO SAFETY MEASURES THERE.
09:22:15 MY POINT IS THAT IT SEEMS DISINGENUOUS FOR CSX TO BE
09:22:21 RAISING THE LEVEL OF SAFETY CONCERNS WHEN THEY ARE MUCH
09:22:23 MORE TRAVELED AND TRAVERSED AREAS THROUGH CONCENTRATED
09:22:26 AREAS OF DOWNTOWN WHERE THERE'S NOT ADEQUATE SAFETY, OR
09:22:30 IN THEIR OPINION NOT ADEQUATE.
09:22:33 THERE WAS TESTIMONY IN THE DEPOSITION AS WELL.
09:22:35 THEIR ENGINEER SAID THEY BELIEVED THAT THE TYSON ROAD
09:22:39 AVENUE WAS ADEQUATE FOR SAFETY.
09:22:42 SO THE CROSSING ACROSS THE ROAD, THEY TESTIFIED, THEY ARE
09:22:45 ENGINEERS TESTIFIED UNDER OATH THEY BELIEVED THAT WAS
09:22:49 ADEQUATE.
09:22:50 SO I AM NOT SURE HERE HOW A PRIVATE DRIVE GOING ACROSS
09:22:53 SOMETHING SIMILAR IS INADEQUATE.
09:22:57 FINALLY, THERE IS NOTHING PRESENTING CSX FROM PUTTING
09:23:04 ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES ON THEIR PROPERTY.
09:23:06 WE CERTAINLY WILL CONSIDER PUTTING SIGN OUGHTAGE OUT SO
09:23:10 PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHEN THE TRAINS ARE COMING BUT I DID
09:23:12 WANT TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERNS AND BRING THE REST OF
09:23:14 IT TO LIGHT WHEN WE HAVE THE SAFETY DISCUSSION.
09:23:17 I AM GOING TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TEAM TO STEVEN SO HE
09:23:20 CAN TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
09:23:22 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
09:23:33 GO AHEAD.
09:23:33 I WILL FINISH UP WHEN YOU ARE DONE.
09:23:36 >> STEVE HENRY AGAIN. I WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF
09:23:38 THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD.
09:23:39 NUMBER ONE WAS ABOUT OUR REPORT SAID IT WAS 30% DIVERSION
09:23:45 OF TRAFFIC VERSUS THE 40%.
09:23:48 THE REPORT IS CORRECT, THERE'S 30% DIVERSION OF TRAFFIC
09:23:51 BUT IT'S ON GANDY THAT MAY USE THE ELEVATED LANES.
09:23:54 THAT WILL RESULT IN ABOUT A 40% REDUCTION IN THE DELAY AT
09:23:58 THE INTERSECTION.
09:24:00 THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NUMBERS.
09:24:03 MISUNDERSTOOD THE NUMBERS.
09:24:05 AS FAR AS THE HOURS OF THE STUDY WE DID IT IN ACCORDANCE
09:24:06 WITH YOUR PROCEDURES, I DO NOT BELIEVE -- I KNOW THAT THE
09:24:10 BASE WE HAVE DO PLENTY OF STUDIES DOWN THERE.
09:24:13 I ACTUALLY LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND KNOW THE TRAFFIC FROM
09:24:15 MacDILL TO THIS INTERSECTION.
09:24:17 WE BELIEVE WE HAVE DONE THE ACCOUNTS AT THE APPROPRIATE
09:24:19 TIME AND DONE THEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR PROCEDURES
09:24:22 MANUAL, DONE WITH THE METHODOLOGY APPROVED BY YOUR STAFF,
09:24:25 AND WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY YOUR STAFF.
09:24:29 AGAIN, WE ARE A CEA, THAT IS CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA
09:24:34 THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY, WHETHER THEY UNDERSTAND OR
09:24:38 NOT, BUT THAT IS THE GUIDELINES THAT WE ARE WORKING
09:24:42 UNDER.
09:24:45 THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE HAD.
09:24:46 >> I WILL SAY IN THE LITTLE BIT OF TIME WE HAVE LEFT, WE
09:24:52 DID TALK WITH YOUR STAFF TODAY REGARDING EVACUATION AND
09:24:56 HURRICANE SPACE.
09:24:57 THEY DID PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO US.
09:25:00 CURRENTLY THERE ARE 61,906 SPACES AVAILABLE, AND THAT
09:25:05 CAME FROM TED WILLIAMS, THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH THE
09:25:08 OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
09:25:12 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS REZONING.
09:25:15 WE BELIEVE WE HAVE MET OUR BURDEN TO PROVIDE YOU
09:25:17 SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE, THAT UNDER THE CODE TODAY
09:25:20 WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
09:25:21 WE ARE ASKING FOR LESS THAN WE COULD UNDER THE
09:25:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MORE GREEN SPACE.
09:25:26 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:25:27 [BELL SOUNDS]
09:25:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:25:30 ANY QUESTIONS?
09:25:31 [RUSTLING PAPERS] MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
09:25:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
09:25:36 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO,
09:25:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:25:42 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
09:25:44 ON ITEM NUMBER 10.
09:25:50 I'LL JUST GIVE SOME THOUGHTS ON MYSELF.
09:25:53 I HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE
09:25:55 BEEN TALKING HERE TODAY ON ISSUES.
09:25:59 UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, THE WAY I SEE A LOT OF THE ISSUES
09:26:02 HERE, WE ARE PRECLUDED, UNLESS I AM CONVINCED OTHERWISE,
09:26:07 IN TERMS OF WHAT I UNDERSTAND, FROM CONSIDERING A LOT OF
09:26:10 THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AS BEING BINDING,
09:26:17 WILL SET US UP FOR SOME TROUBLE, SO TO SPEAK.
09:26:20 THAT'S THE WAY I PRESENTLY SEE IT.
09:26:22 THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT I HAVE.
09:26:24 BUT THE ISSUE IS, CAN WE CONSIDER -- THEY CAN THEY BE A
09:26:29 FOUNDATION FOR A DECISION?
09:26:30 THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MYSELF.
09:26:46 WELL, IF NO ONE WISHES TO MAKE A MOTION, DOES ANYONE WISH
09:26:50 TO SHARE THEIR FEELINGS IN THIS GROUP SETTING?
09:26:52 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:26:55 LATE NIGHT HUMOR.
09:26:56 >> THANK YOU, CONAN.
09:27:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS A TOUGH POINT WHERE YOU DON'T
09:27:07 HAVE A BALL TO PLAY WITH.
09:27:09 AND IT SEEMS AT THIS POINT OUR LEGAL ADVISER MRS. KERT
09:27:14 SAID WE DON'T HAVE A BALL TO PLAY WITH RIGHT NOW.
09:27:17 EVEN THOUGH I THINK THIS COUNCIL DOES WANT TO PLAY BALL.
09:27:22 I THINK MR. CHAIRMAN IS RIGHT, WE MIGHT BE IN A SLIPPERY
09:27:27 SLOPE, WE TRY TO GET A BALL WE SHOULDN'T HAVE.
09:27:33 SO I THINK WE ARE IN A TOUGH SELL RIGHT NOW.
09:27:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
09:27:46 >>LUIS VIERA: AND BEFORE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
09:27:47 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
09:27:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
09:27:51 I UNDERSTAND.
09:27:52 I BELIEVE WHAT EVERYTHING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS.
09:27:55 I HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE.
09:27:57 I BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS CORRECT.
09:27:59 SO I HAVE GOT TWO CORRECTS OVERALL.
09:28:01 CSX, I HATE TO SAY PUBLICLY, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO SAY
09:28:10 IT.
09:28:10 WE ALMOST CAME CLOSE TO AN AGREEMENT FOR DOWNTOWN THEY
09:28:14 HAD TO BLOW THE BILL AND THAT WENT TO HELL.
09:28:17 THEY CHARGED $350,000 THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE
09:28:20 STREETCAR TO CROSS ADAMO DRIVE, IF I RECALL IT WAS EVEN
09:28:23 HIGHER THAN THAT.
09:28:24 SO I AM NOTE GOING TO LISTEN TO THAT.
09:28:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:28:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK, SIR?
09:28:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:28:33 IT IS A TOUGH ONE.
09:28:35 A LOT OF MOVING TARGETS, AND LEGAL ADVICE FLYING AROUND.
09:28:45 BUT WITH ALL DUE SERIOUSNESS, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY
09:28:48 THE REZONING, AND I WILL FORMALIZE THAT IN A SECOND.
09:28:56 I'M NOT MOVING TO DENY ON THE BASIS OF TRAFFIC OR
09:29:00 TRANSPORTATION.
09:29:01 I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE RECORD ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
09:29:04 BECAUSE OUR STAFF, LEGAL STAFF HAS ADVISED US THAT THAT'S
09:29:10 NOT THE BASIS FOR OUR DENIAL, BECAUSE APPARENTLY
09:29:14 ACCORDING TO OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF, THEY HAVE MET THE
09:29:18 TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE TCEA.
09:29:25 I AM NOT MAKING THIS MOTION BASED UPON THE CSX ISSUE
09:29:32 BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT'S IN LITIGATION BETWEEN
09:29:35 THOSE TWO PARTIES, CSX AND THE PETITIONER.
09:29:38 AND THE CITY JUST STANDING ON THE SIDELINE, TO USE A
09:29:42 SPORTS ANALOGY.
09:29:45 AND WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY COUNCIL THAT THAT'S NOT A
09:29:48 BASIS, AND WE HAVE TO KIND OF PRETEND THAT RED LANE
09:29:54 DOESN'T EXIST THERE.
09:29:55 BUT WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR WAS A RESPONSE FROM THE PETITIONER
09:30:00 AS RELATED TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ISSUES.
09:30:04 AND SPECIFICALLY, I ASKED OUR EXPERT FROM THE PLANNING
09:30:08 COMMISSION, WHO I AM SURE HAS MANY, MANY CREDENTIALS,
09:30:13 THAT'S WHY SHE STANDS IN FRONT OF US, WEEK IN AND WEEK
09:30:16 OUT, TO TALK ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ISSUE, AND
09:30:21 SPECIFICALLY OBJECTIVE 1.1 THAT SAYS WE NEED TO DIRECT
09:30:26 FUTURE POPULATION CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL
09:30:29 HIGH HAZARD AREA SO AS TO ACHIEVE AN INCREASE IN OVERALL
09:30:35 RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITHIN THE CHHA, AND THEN THE OTHER
09:30:41 POLICIES THAT WERE MENTIONED, SPECIFICALLY OBJECTIVE, AND
09:30:44 THEN OBJECTIVE 1.2 WHICH SAYS MAINTAIN AND REDUCE
09:30:48 HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES WITHIN THE CITY AS A COMPONENT
09:30:51 OF MAINTAINING AND REDUCING EVACUATION TIMES FOR THE
09:30:54 COUNTY AND THE REGION.
09:30:56 THE ONLY THING I HEARD ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS --
09:31:00 AND LET ME MAKE AT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, MRS. BATSEL DID AN
09:31:04 AMAZING JOB.
09:31:05 SHE AND HER TEAM DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
09:31:07 I THINK THAT SHE DID THE BEST JOB WITH THE INFORMATION
09:31:10 THAT SHE HAD IN HER POSSESSION.
09:31:13 AND SHE SPOKE TO SHELTERS.
09:31:15 THE ONLY WAY SHELTERS ARE RELEVANT IS IF YOU CAN GET TO
09:31:18 THEM.
09:31:19 AND THE ONLY TESTIMONY WE HEARD WAS FROM OUR STAFF,
09:31:24 UNCONTROVERTED WHICH SAYS THERE HAS BEEN NO MITIGATION
09:31:29 AND BASICALLY NO DISCUSSION IN REGARD TO FOLKS BEING ABLE
09:31:34 TO GET OUT OF THIS 358 UNIT PROJECT WHEN THEY ARE
09:31:39 COMBINED WITH ALL THE OTHER FUTURE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO
09:31:44 GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE SOME DAY IF AND
09:31:47 WHEN, GOD FORBID, THEY ALL HAVE TO GET OUT OF THERE.
09:31:51 SO LET ME FORMALIZE MY MOTION.
09:31:56 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LONG-WINDED PREDICATE.
09:32:02 ALL RIGHT.
09:32:04 WHAT'S THE NUMBER?
09:32:10 19-77?
09:32:11 THANK YOU.
09:32:12 I MOVE TO DENY REZ 19-77 DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE
09:32:15 PETITIONER TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PARAGRAPH TO PROVIDE
09:32:18 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS
09:32:21 CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH
09:32:23 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE SPECIFICALLY CRATING
09:32:27 TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD PROVISION THAT'S MENTIONED A
09:32:35 FEW MINUTES AGO, AND ANY OTHER ASSOCIATED PROVISIONS IN
09:32:42 CHAPTER 27 THAT ADDRESS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD.
09:32:47 IN MY OPINION, THE ONLY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
09:32:51 WE HEARD ON THAT ISSUE CAME FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION
09:32:55 STAFF, AND IT WAS NOT FAVORABLE IN REGARD TO THE
09:33:00 PETITIONER BEING ABLE TO MEET THIS ISSUE IN REGARD TO
09:33:04 EVACUATION.
09:33:04 >> SECOND.
09:33:06 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
09:33:08 AND A JOINT SECOND, I'LL DO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:33:12 ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO FORWARD?
09:33:15 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
09:33:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE
09:33:18 NEIGHBORHOOD SAID, BUT UNDER THE RULES THAT I HAVE GOT TO
09:33:21 PLAY WITH TODAY, I DON'T SEE A WAY TO VOTE AGAINST THIS,
09:33:27 BECAUSE THE RECALLS TODAY ARE THE RULES THAT WERE SET ON
09:33:31 THE ZONING MECHANISMS THAT WE HAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:33:33 FOR MANY YEARS, AND UNLESS THOSE RULES CHANGE, YOUR
09:33:36 NEIGHBORHOOD, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL NEIGHBORHOODS, ARE
09:33:39 GOING TO BE INVADED AND YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT
09:33:43 WHEN YOU WANT.
09:33:44 NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM OF TRAFFIC WHERE YOU
09:33:46 LIVE, IT'S A PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC EVERYWHERE I GO, IN
09:33:50 EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD I GO. THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY ASK
09:33:53 YOU, ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND THE SECOND ONE IS ABOUT PARKING.
09:33:56 THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN THINGS IN THE CITY, THAT WE HAVE
09:34:00 NOT ADDRESSED AS A BODY.
09:34:01 AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE VOTE THAT I CAST BUT I CAN'T VOTE
09:34:03 TO SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
09:34:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:34:07 AND I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUE'S SENTIMENTS.
09:34:10 AS FAR AS I INTERPRET THIS ISSUE, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.
09:34:13 I THINK THAT THE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO PLAY BY GIVE A
09:34:17 DECIDED DECISION THAT SHOULD COME FORWARD IN THIS REGARD,
09:34:24 AND I CONCUR WITH THAT.
09:34:26 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, A SECOND BY
09:34:28 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:34:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:34:31 ANY OPPOSED?
09:34:31 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND MIRANDA
09:34:38 VOTING NO.
09:34:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 11 ON YOUR AGENDA, MARY
09:34:52 SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
09:34:56 REZ 19-87, A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
09:35:00 2301 WEST KENTUCKY AVENUE FROM RS-50 TO PD.
09:35:09 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
09:35:15 THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
09:35:20 IT IS WITHIN THE WELLSWOOD PARK, THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL
09:35:25 FACILITY, HEART SERVE IT IS AREA, AND IT IS LEVEL E
09:35:30 EVACUATION ZONE.
09:35:35 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON WEST KENTUCKY AVENUE,
09:35:38 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IS RIGHT HERE.
09:35:41 THERE'S A SAVE A LOT TO THE NORTH AT THE INTERSECTION OF
09:35:46 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD AND ARMENIA AVENUE
09:35:49 AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS TO THE SOUTH.
09:35:50 THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTH ARMENIA
09:35:53 AVENUE AND WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
09:35:57 THEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THIS
09:36:01 IS LOCATED.
09:36:04 FUTURE LAND USE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10, THAT ORANGE
09:36:08 COLOR ON THE MAP.
09:36:08 THEN I HAVE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALONG NORTH ARMENIA
09:36:11 AVENUE IN THE PINK.
09:36:13 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
09:36:15 YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
09:36:18 AS I STATED BEFORE, THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
09:36:21 DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR UP TO 10 DWELLING UNITS TO THE
09:36:24 ACRE WITH APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, THE PARCEL WOULD BE
09:36:28 DEVELOPED AT A DENSITY OF 9 DWELLING UNITS PER ACHE WE'RE
09:36:31 IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT UNDERLAYING FUTURE LAND USE
09:36:34 DESIGNATION UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10 BLUE, AND WE ALSO
09:36:38 FOUND THAT THE PD WOULD NOT ALTER CHARACTER OF THE
09:36:41 RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:36:42 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:36:44 THANK YOU.
09:36:46 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE GO, MR. SHELBY, I WOULD LIKE YOU
09:36:51 TO SPEAK TO THE FACT OF I GUESS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AS TO
09:36:55 THE PETITION THAT WE JUST DENIED IN TERMS OF SPEAKING
09:36:59 ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS, ET CETERA.
09:37:02 BECAUSE I SAW AN APPELLATE LAWYER IN THE AUDIENCE AND
09:37:05 THEY WERE AT THE 38th PARALLEL.
09:37:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT ISSUE,
09:37:09 SIR.
09:37:10 AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALSO, IN THAT REGARD, I WOULD ASK AT
09:37:13 THIS TIME TO ENSURE THAT IT'S IN FACT DONE, THAT WE PLACE
09:37:17 INTO THE RECORD ANY MATERIAL THAT HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR
09:37:21 PUBLIC INSPECTION IN CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE PRIOR TO THIS
09:37:25 HEARING, AND THEN I WILL RAISE YOUR ISSUE, SIR.
09:37:28 IF YOU HAVE A MOTION TO THAT REGARD.
09:37:30 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION.
09:37:33 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
09:37:35 MANISCALCO.
09:37:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:37:37 ANY OPPOSED?
09:37:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, I WILL ADVISE YOU THAT AS YOU SAW
09:37:41 TONIGHT, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS RELATIVE TO
09:37:44 LITIGATION IN THIS MATTER.
09:37:46 I WOULD CAUTION YOU, AND THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF INTEREST
09:37:50 IN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD CAUTION YOU AGAINST SPEAKING
09:37:53 ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE APPEAL
09:37:57 PERIOD, WHICH IS 30 DAYS.
09:37:59 THANK YOU.
09:38:00 >>LUIS VIERA: AS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN QUOTED NO
09:38:02 COMPLAINT OR A LAWSUIT INVOLVING LAND USE ISSUES, I SAY
09:38:05 THANK YOU.
09:38:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, SIR.
09:38:09 THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT TO RAISE.
09:38:10 THANK YOU.
09:38:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE.
09:38:12 GO AHEAD.
09:38:16 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
09:38:19 COORDINATION.
09:38:20 THIS IS A REQUEST TO DO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR TWO
09:38:25 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AT 2301 WEST KENTUCKY AVENUE.
09:38:30 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
09:38:32 APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
09:38:34 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOT IS APPROXIMATELY 95 FEET WIDE BY
09:38:40 102.
09:38:41 SO EACH LOT IN WIDTH WOULD BE 51.2 FEET WIDE BY 95 FEET
09:38:50 DEEP AND EACH LOT WOULD BE THEREFORE 4,866 SQUARE FEET.
09:38:55 THIS IS A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF THE RS-50
09:38:59 ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS THE SMALLEST RESIDENTIAL ZONING
09:39:02 DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
09:39:06 WE DID A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF THE LOT WIDTHS IN THE
09:39:12 SURROUNDING AREA TO SEE IF THERE'S -- IF THE CREATION OF
09:39:17 THE TWO LOTS WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
09:39:36 IN THE SUBJECT AREA, 100% OF THE LOTS HAVE A WIDTH OF 50
09:39:41 FEET OR GREATER.
09:39:42 ZERO OR LESS THAN 50 FEET WIDE.
09:39:52 SIMILARLY, WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, 100% OF
09:39:57 THE LOTS WIDTHS ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET WIDE AS WELL AS THE
09:40:08 BLOCK FACE AND THE BLOCK WIDTH, SO THERE ARE NO LOTS THAT
09:40:13 WOULD CONTAIN LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET WIDE.
09:40:17 AND EACH ONE OF THE PROPOSED LOTS IS APPROXIMATELY 47.5
09:40:21 FEET WIDE.
09:40:30 I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT LOTS
09:40:34 WERE FACING THIS WAY, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO
09:40:42 LOTS IN THIS DIMENSION AS WELL.
09:40:44 SO EACH LOT WOULD BE LESS THAN 50 FEET WIDE.
09:40:47 47.5 FEET.
09:40:48 THERE ARE NO LOTS THAT HAVE A LOT THAT NARROW.
09:40:54 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED AS PART OF THIS
09:40:56 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
09:40:57 AGAIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HAS REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE
09:41:00 MINIMUM LOT WIDTH DOWN BELOW WHAT IS THE MINIMUM STANDARD
09:41:03 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09:41:04 THERE IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA FOR LOTS
09:41:07 THAT NARROW.
09:41:09 AS I HAVE JUST EXHIBITED WHAT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
09:41:12 THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS FROM NATURAL RESOURCE IFS
09:41:16 CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION BETWEEN
09:41:18 FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND OVERALL, THE PLANNING
09:41:23 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT -- I'M SORRY, THE DEVELOPMENT
09:41:26 REVIEW COMPLAINS STAFF HAS FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BASED ON
09:41:31 INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
09:41:34 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
09:41:36 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
09:41:37 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:41:42 ANYONE ELSE FROM STAFF?
09:41:48 PETITIONER, NUMBER 11.
09:41:50 >> MY NAME IS LANA DUONG, AND EVERYTHING MARY WAS SAYING
09:42:08 WAS ALREADY SAID, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
09:42:11 BUT I KNOW THAT I WILL MAKE THE PLAN THAT WILL FOLLOW ALL
09:42:19 THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY.
09:42:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:42:24 ANYTHING ELSE?
09:42:24 >> NO.
09:42:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:42:27 ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 11?
09:42:30 IF SO THIS IS YOUR TIME TO SHANE.
09:42:32 COME FORWARD.
09:42:32 OKAY.
09:42:33 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
09:42:34 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. A SECOND I
09:42:37 BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:42:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:42:41 ANY OPPOSED?
09:42:41 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU TAKE ITEM 11?
09:42:47 >>BILL CARLSON: ORDINANCE BEING READ -- I'M SORRY.
09:42:52 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, FAIL
09:42:55 NUMBER REZ 1987, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
09:42:59 GENERAL VICINITY OF 2301 WEST KENTUCKY AVENUE IN THE CITY
09:43:03 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
09:43:05 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50
09:43:08 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
09:43:11 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED, PROVIDING AN
09:43:14 EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:43:15 >> SECOND.
09:43:16 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:43:18 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:43:20 AND --
09:43:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET AS PART OF
09:43:26 THAT.
09:43:27 >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
09:43:29 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
09:43:31 ANY OPPOSED?
09:43:32 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO
09:43:36 AND DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
09:43:39 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON DECEMBER 5th
09:43:41 AT 9:30 A.M.
09:43:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:43:44 WE GO TO THE FINAL ONE.
09:43:45 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: FOR THE RECORD, THE FINAL ITEM ON THE
09:43:49 AGENDA IS REZ 19-69.
09:43:51 IT'S AT 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL
09:43:55 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
09:43:57 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
09:44:04 THE ITEM IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
09:44:07 WITHIN THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD, PORT TAMPA
09:44:11 COMMUNITY CENTER.
09:44:14 IT'S IN EVACUATION ZONE A WHICH MEANS THAT A PORTION OF
09:44:17 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THAT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
09:44:21 ROUTE 19 SERVES THAT SITE.
09:44:23 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
09:44:24 IT'S OUTLINED HERE IN PURPLE ALONG INTERBAY BOULEVARD,
09:44:27 AND THEN SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE.
09:44:30 TO THE SOUTH, SORRY YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN, IS
09:44:33 THE MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
09:44:36 NORTH BOUNDARY ROAD.
09:44:38 I HAVE SOME MULTIFAMILY
09:44:40 COMMUNITIES TO THE NORTH AND SURROUNDING IT AND A FEW
09:44:43 REMNANT INDUSTRIAL PEACES TO THE SOUTH.
09:44:45 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED OVER HERE.
09:44:51 THE SUBJECT SITE IS TRANSITIONAL USE 24 WHICH I WILL GET
09:44:54 INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER.
09:44:56 BUT TO THE SOUTH, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
09:44:59 HERE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
09:45:00 RESIDENTIAL 20.
09:45:01 THE BLUE IS PUBLIC.
09:45:04 THAT'S THAT MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
09:45:06 WE STILL HAVE THOSE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PEACES WITHIN THIS
09:45:09 AREA, AND THEN RESIDENTIAL 35 OVER HERE.
09:45:18 THE PORTION OF THIS TRANSITIONAL USE 24 -- I'M SORRY.
09:45:25 IGNORE THAT.
09:45:28 THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24 IS A UNIQUE DESIGNATION IN OUR
09:45:32 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:45:33 IT'S UNIQUE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR A TRUE MIXTURE OF USES
09:45:37 INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL AND LATE INDUSTRIAL.
09:45:39 SO MANY OF THESE AREAS THAT HAVE THE TRANSITION WILL A
09:45:42 USE DESIGNATION WERE DEVELOPED BEFORE ZONING AND IN MANY
09:45:46 CASES APPRAISE DATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE SOUTH
09:45:48 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, WE HAVE NOTICED A TREND THAT A
09:45:51 LOT OF THE DESIGNATED TRANSITIONAL USE 24 ARE
09:45:58 TRANSITIONING TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.
09:46:00 WE HAVE ALSO NOTICED AND IN SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY
09:46:05 BOULEVARD.
09:46:05 SO IT'S A LOT OF THE REMNANT PIECES THAT HAVE REALLY
09:46:09 TRANSITIONED THE LAST 10, 20 YEARS TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL
09:46:12 PROJECTS.
09:46:14 SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
09:46:16 AND DEFINITELY -- WE FOUND THAT IT WAS FURTHERING SEVERAL
09:46:22 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES INCLUDING PROVIDING A
09:46:24 SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM EXISTING SIDEWALK ON INTERBAY
09:46:27 BOULEVARD AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE SUBJECT
09:46:31 SITE.
09:46:31 LASTLY, WE DID FIND THAT THE PD WILL PROVIDE HOUSING
09:46:34 OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION, AND WILL
09:46:37 REDEVELOP AN UNDERUTILIZED OR VACANT PARCEL WITHIN THE
09:46:41 SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT WHICH FURTHERS OUR
09:46:44 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY.
09:46:46 AND THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
09:46:48 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE
09:46:50 TRANSITIONAL USE PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION, I AM
09:46:54 AVAILABLE.
09:46:54 THANK YOU.
09:46:55 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:47:02 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE SITE PLAN, UP IS NORTH.
09:47:16 THIS IS ON INTERBAY BOULEVARD, AGAIN LIKE I SAID.
09:47:21 THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 9.31 ACRES.
09:47:24 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 216 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING
09:47:28 UNITS.
09:47:28 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A WAREHOUSE AND
09:47:31 DISTRIBUTION USE.
09:47:33 AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE RETAIL AND OFFICE TO
09:47:35 THE EAST AND WEST, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, APPROVED IN
09:47:40 2004 TO THE SOUTH, THE TOWNHOMES, ANOTHER PLANNED
09:47:43 DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH FOR APARTMENTS IN 2002, AND
09:47:47 LASTLY A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT JUST APPROVED IN 2016, TO
09:47:51 THE NORTHEAST, BOTH RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES.
09:47:54 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE NORTH 5 FEET, SOUTH 25 FEET,
09:47:58 EAST 7 AND WEST 7 AS WELL, WITH A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT
09:48:01 OF 60 FEET.
09:48:03 BASED ON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND DWELLING
09:48:06 UNITS, A TOTAL OF 360 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, AND
09:48:11 THROUGH A WAIVER BY THE CITY COUNCIL, 310 WOULD BE
09:48:15 PROVIDED, THAT'S A 14% PARKING REDUCTION WAIVER FOR WHICH
09:48:19 TRANSPORTATION FINDS INCONSISTENT.
09:48:22 ALL OF THE PROPOSED MUCH ACCESS WILL COME OFF A TWO-WAY
09:48:26 DRIVEWAY TO INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
09:48:32 FOR MODIFICATIONS, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
09:48:35 COORDINATION HAS SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST
09:48:38 AND SECOND READING TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE NOTES,
09:48:42 TRANSPORTATION, AS I SAID, FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
09:48:45 BASED ON THE 14% PARKING REDUCTION, STORMWATER AND
09:48:49 NATURAL RESOURCES ALSO HAVE SOME MINOR CHANGES BETWEEN
09:48:53 FIRST AND SECOND READING AND ADDITIONAL DATA THAT'S
09:48:56 REQUESTED.
09:48:57 THIS APPLICATION IS COMING BEFORE YOU WITH FOUR WAIVERS
09:49:00 BEING REQUESTED.
09:49:01 THE FIRST ONE IS TO 27-284.2.5 TO ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF
09:49:07 FIVE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES.
09:49:09 THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER PRESENTED OF
09:49:13 TREES TO BE REMOVED FOR SITE OVER AN ACRE FROM 50% TO
09:49:18 90%.
09:49:19 THE THIRD WAIVER IS 27-283-7 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
09:49:23 PARKING FROM 360 SPACES TO 310.
09:49:26 THAT IS A 14% PARKING REDUCTION THEY ARE REQUESTING.
09:49:29 AND THE LAST WAIVER IS 27-283-14 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
09:49:33 NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS FROM 3 TO ZERO.
09:49:38 SEEING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN COMPLIANCE STAFF DID
09:49:41 FAINT THIS INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA LAND USE
09:49:44 REGULAR REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE YOUR STAFF
09:49:47 REPORT, THE FINDINGS FOR TRANSPORTATION REGARDING THE
09:49:50 PARKING WAIVER.
09:49:52 I DO HAVE TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF
09:49:56 AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
09:49:58 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
09:50:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:50:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU HAVE THE NATURAL RESOURCES
09:50:06 REPORT?
09:50:14 DO WE HAVE A REPORT?
09:50:22 >> BILL: THE APPLICANT HAD A VERY THOROUGH SITE PLAN
09:50:28 WHERE HE RATED ALL THE TREES.
09:50:29 ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE GRAND TREES ON THE SITE?
09:50:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:50:32 >> BILL: THEY WERE KIND OF MIDLAND. THERE WERE SOME
09:50:37 Bs AND SOME Cs.
09:50:39 BUT KATHY BECK HAD A MEETING THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE
09:50:43 APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT PROPOSAL.
09:50:46 AND SHE WAS INFORMED BY THE ENGINEERS THAT THE ENTIRE
09:50:50 SITE IS GOING TO BE COVERED WITH THREE FEET MINIMUM OF
09:50:54 FILL, WHICH WILL SNUFF OUT THE TREES. WHEN YOU PUT THAT
09:50:58 MUCH FILL AROUND A TREE, THE LEVEL AROUND THOSE ROOT
09:51:04 SYSTEMS, THE OXYGEN IS HIGHER IN THE SPACES IF YOU ADD
09:51:13 THREE FEET, YOU DRIVE OUT THE OXYGEN AND THE ROOTS OF THE
09:51:17 EXISTING GRAND TREES ROT OUT.
09:51:19 AND THE REASON THEY WERE FILLING THE SITE THREE FEET PLUS
09:51:21 WAS BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THE DRAIN TO THE BACK WAS
09:51:26 LOWER.
09:51:27 SO THE ONLY TREES, 90% OF THE TREES WERE GOING TO BE
09:51:34 REMOVED, THE ONLY TREES THEY ARE PRESERVING ARE ON THE
09:51:36 VERY PERIMETER EDGES.
09:51:41 SO THERE WAS A VERY THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF ALL THE TREES ON
09:51:46 THE SITE BY THE APPLICANT.
09:51:47 IT'S A VERY TRUSTWORTHY APPLICANT, DOES GOOD WORK, BUT
09:51:52 BECAUSE HE'S FILLING THE SITE THREE FEET, THAT'S WHAT THE
09:51:57 ENGINEERS DO TO GET THIS THING DRAINED.
09:52:00 >> IF THE SPEAKER COULD PUT HIS NAME ON THE RECORD.
09:52:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CREW.
09:52:08 >> BILL BORES, NATURAL RESOURCES.
09:52:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
09:52:15 I DON'T SEE -- I HAVE A TWO-PAGE SITE PLAN.
09:52:19 I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE TREES ON THE SITE PLAN.
09:52:24 >> YES, THERE'S ACTUALLY A SITE PLAN THAT'S COLORED, IT'S
09:52:31 SHOWING WHERE THE GRAND TREES ARE, AND THE CONDITION OF
09:52:34 THEM.
09:52:35 AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY THOROUGH ANALYSIS.
09:52:41 AND WE ACCEPTED THE ANALYSIS.
09:52:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HOW MANY GRAND TREES ARE THERE,
09:52:50 HEALTHY GRAND TREES ARE THERE ON-SITE?
09:52:53 >> THE PROPOSAL IS TO REMOVE FIVE NONHAZARD GRAND TREES
09:52:58 ON THE SITE.
09:52:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT WOULD IMPLY, WHAT, THAT THERE
09:53:01 ARE OTHERS THAT AREN'T HAZARDOUS?
09:53:04 >> YES.
09:53:05 THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE NOT RATED AS WELL.
09:53:08 BUT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO SUCCUMB TO THE THREE FEET
09:53:11 PLUS OF FILL.
09:53:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND HOW BIG AN AREA DOES THE TREE NEED
09:53:17 TO BE NOT DISTURBED?
09:53:22 DOES HAVE IT TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE DRIP LINE OR
09:53:25 CAN YOU CREATE A RADIUS AROUND THE TREE, PROTECT THE
09:53:28 RADIUS AROUND THE TREE?
09:53:31 I HAVE SEEN PARKING LOTS WHERE YOU GOT A CIRCLE AND YOU
09:53:35 GOT BRICKS, AND --
09:53:37 >> YEAH, THOSE ARE CALLED TREE WELLS.
09:53:39 THEY ARE VERY POPULAR 20, 30 YEARS AGO.
09:53:42 AND I WAS EARLY THE URBAN FORESTER AND I STOPPED ALL OF
09:53:49 THAT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED AND
09:53:52 THE DRAINS PLUGGED UP AND THE DRAINS FILL UP LIKE A
09:53:56 SWIMMING POOL AND THE TREES DON'T MAKE IT.
09:53:59 SO TREE WELLS ARE NOT A REAL PRACTICAL THING TO BE DO AND
09:54:02 THEY HAVE TO BE WAY OUT THERE TO THE DRIP LINE.
09:54:05 TO BE EFFECTIVE.
09:54:07 AND DRAINS HAVE TO WORK.
09:54:10 OVER TIME THEY SILT UP.
09:54:13 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
09:54:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE FIRST ASSUMPTION ON THIS
09:54:20 PROJECT WAS THEY HAVE TO HAVE THREE FEET OF FILL?
09:54:25 >> YES.
09:54:27 KATHY BECK WAS AT THAT MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT THIS
09:54:29 AFTERNOON AND SHE CALLED ME INTO HER OFFICE AND SHE SAID
09:54:33 THE TREES ARE GOING TO SUCCUMB WITH DEVELOPMENT DUE TO
09:54:36 THE FILL.
09:54:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WE COULDN'T IDENTIFY ANY OF THEM
09:54:41 THAT ARE FAR ENOUGH AWAY?
09:54:43 >> JUST ON THE PERIMETER.
09:54:46 THAT'S 10% OF THE TOTAL TREE COUNT THAT'S PROPOSED.
09:54:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:54:53 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
09:55:00 COUNCILMAN?
09:55:04 >>TRUETT GARDNER: HERE ON BEHALF OF ZAM, AN INTERNATIONAL
09:55:08 FAMILY DEVELOPER.
09:55:10 I REPRESENTED THEM ON THEIR PROJECT ON ROCKY POINT, HAD
09:55:13 THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT IT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, AND I
09:55:16 WOULD HAVE TO SAY IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST SPECTACULAR
09:55:18 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT I HAVE SEEN IN TAMPA, AND SO
09:55:22 WE ARE EXCITED THEY ARE LOOKING AT THIS LOCATION.
09:55:24 AND WE ARE PROPOSING A 216 UNIT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT
09:55:28 ON 9.3 ACRES.
09:55:31 THE SITE WAS LAST OCCUPIED BY THE HURLEY MATT COMPANY.
09:55:35 IT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS PROBABLY THREE TO FIVE YEARS AGO.
09:55:37 THE SITE HAS BEEN VACANT AND SHUTTERED SINCE THEN.
09:55:41 SO IT'S AN UNDERUTILIZED, IN FACT UNUSED SITE AT THIS
09:55:45 POINT.
09:55:45 AND OUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT.
09:55:56 WITH REVIEW OF AGENCIES FROM THE CITY WITHIN ONE
09:55:59 EXCEPTION, WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS A TECHNICAL
09:56:03 OBJECTION, AND THAT OBJECTION IS TO THE PARKING REAR
09:56:08 WHICH WE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED, MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS ALL
09:56:11 THE TIME, AND THE REASON FOR THAT, JUST TO EDUCATE THOSE
09:56:13 THAT ARE NEW, IS PROBABLY 8 TO 10 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A
09:56:17 PROVISION PUT IN PLACE WHERE FOR EVERY MULTIFAMILY UNIT
09:56:21 YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE .25 GUEST SPACES.
09:56:25 THAT WAS INTENDED FOR TOWN HOME TYPE DEVELOPMENTS.
09:56:29 WHEN YOU GET TO MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, YOU
09:56:32 SIMPLY DON'T NEED THAT MANY SPACES.
09:56:34 AND SO WE HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT IN THE PAST
09:56:37 SUCCESSFULLY, AND FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE HERE, TOO, THAT
09:56:40 IT'S BETTER TO HAVE GREEN SPACE THAN IT IS TO HAVE
09:56:43 PARKING SPACES THAT WON'T BE USED.
09:56:51 ONE ITEM I DID WANT TO ADDRESS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME
09:56:54 DISSENTERS HERE TONIGHT, BUT OUR SPECIFIC OUTREACH TO THE
09:56:57 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT
09:56:59 REACHED OUT TO US, THEY OPPOSED US, WE HAVE WORKED
09:57:02 CLOSELY WITH THEM. THAT'S THE PORT TAMPA CITY
09:57:04 ASSOCIATION.
09:57:05 WE HAVE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH TOM BENTO, CALLIE
09:57:10 DEFAULT.
09:57:11 WE HAVE COLLABORATIVELY WORKED TOGETHER I'M HAPPY TO
09:57:14 REPORT THAT YESTERDAY THE PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH
09:57:16 TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND
09:57:18 SEVERAL THINGS CAME OUT OF THAT ON TRANSPORTATION.
09:57:21 I AM GOING TO LET CHRISTOPHER HADEN OF KIMLEY-HORN
09:57:26 DISCUSS.
09:57:26 BUT ON PARKS I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED
09:57:29 BEFORE.
09:57:30 THERE ARE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE IDENTIFIED
09:57:49 EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THE DIFFERENT COLOR CODES ARE FROM
09:57:52 THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
09:57:54 THIS IS INTERBAY HERE.
09:57:56 THIS IS MANHATTAN RUNNING NORTH.
09:57:58 THIS IS OUR SITE HERE.
09:57:59 AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS A PROPOSED
09:58:04 CITY OF TAMPA PARK WHICH THE CITY PICKED UP, AS WELL AS
09:58:09 ALONG WITH THIS PROPERTY RUNNING TO THE WEST HERE, AND A
09:58:14 PART OF THE LENNAR'S DEVELOPMENT SOUTH, THEY ACTUALLY
09:58:17 CONNECT SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US -- JUST TO ZOOM
09:58:24 IN ON THIS.
09:58:32 YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE ON THAN THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF
09:58:35 OUR PROPERTY, AGAIN OUR PROPERTY IS HERE, IS ABANDONED
09:58:40 RAILROAD SPUR, WHICH IS NOW OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:58:43 AND IT IS ZOM'S REQUEST AND WE WORKED AGAIN WITH THE PORT
09:58:49 TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO INSTALL AT ZOM'S
09:58:53 EXPENSE, THIS IS NOT A CONDITION ON THE SITE PLAN BUT ONE
09:58:56 I AM HAPPY TO MAKE TONIGHT, A PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT THAT
09:58:59 WOULD CONNECT THE PROPERTY TO THIS PARK, AND MR. DAULT
09:59:06 AND MR. DENITO SAID THERE'S CURRENTLY A PEAKED WALKWAY
09:59:12 ALONG THE WESTERN SITE. SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO EITHER
09:59:14 CONNECT TO THE WESTERN SITE, AND THEN WHAT WE LEARNED
09:59:17 FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY IS THEY WANT TO --
09:59:20 THIS IS McCOY THAT'S RUNNING TO THE WEST.
09:59:24 THEY HAD INITIALLY IDENTIFIED THIS AREA HERE, BUT THERE
09:59:28 IS A CSX CROSSING AT THIS POINT, SO THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED
09:59:33 McCOY RUNNING TO THE WEST, WISCONSIN TO THE BAY, AND SO
09:59:36 THIS IS A CRITICAL CONNECTION TO GET PEDESTRIANS FROM
09:59:39 THERE ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND OVER.
09:59:42 SO THAT WAS ONE CONSIDERATION WE WORKED OUT WITH THE
09:59:44 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
09:59:46 ANOTHER WAS THEY WANTED US TO REDUCE OUR NUMBER OF UNITS,
09:59:50 WHICH WE AGREED TO, TO 216.
09:59:52 THEY ALSO WANTED FROM A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT STANDPOINT,
09:59:55 THEY WANTED US NOT TO HAVE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, ONLY
09:59:59 STUDIOS, ONE BEDROOMS AND TWO BEDROOMS.
10:00:01 YOU WILL NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AGREED
10:00:04 TO.
10:00:04 SO WE PROBABLY HAD A MINIMUM OF THREE IN-PERSON MEETINGS
10:00:09 WITH THEM, AND PROBABLY 20 PHONE CALLS, CORRESPONDENCE
10:00:14 THROUGHOUT, AND BY THROUGHOUT, I MEAN UPWARDS OF PROBABLY
10:00:18 SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
10:00:20 THEY ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT THEY ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT
10:00:22 BECAUSE THEY DON'T OBJECT TO THIS PROJECT.
10:00:28 THE A COUPLE OF DISTINCTIONS. THIS HAS A LOT OF SIMILAR
10:00:31 FACT SCENARIOS TO YOUR LAST REQUEST, ITEM NUMBER 10.
10:00:34 BUT THERE ARE SOME DISTINCTIONS HERE AS WELL.
10:00:38 IS THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR STAFF REPORT.
10:00:40 AS IT RELATES TO THE THAN DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
10:00:45 PARKING SPACES, WE CAN MAKE THIS SITE WORK AND HAVE ALL
10:00:50 OF THOSE PARKING SPACES AGAIN.
10:00:52 YOU WILL HEAR FROM OUR TRANSPORTATION EXPERTS THOSE
10:00:54 SPACES ARE NOT NEEDED.
10:00:56 SO WHETHER THEY ARE NOT NEEDED WE DON'T FEEL IT'S
10:00:59 APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA WHEN YOU CAN
10:01:03 HAVE GREEN SPACE.
10:01:05 BUT SECONDLY, THE OUTLET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS THE
10:01:11 FIRST WE HEARD ABOUT ANY OPPOSITION, WE CHECKED WITH
10:01:15 ACCELA.
10:01:16 YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT, BUT WE CHECKED WITH ACCELA.
10:01:20 WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE AT OUR -- WE CONTINUED THIS HEARING
10:01:24 BECAUSE OF AN APC ISSUE WHICH IS NOW RESOLVED.
10:01:28 THERE WAS A LETTER IN THE REPORT OBJECTING TO THE NOTICE
10:01:32 THAT WAS GIVEN, A PARTICULAR SIGN POSTING.
10:01:35 WE SPOKE OF WITH MRS. KERT ON THAT.
10:01:37 AND EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO OBLIGATION TO DO SO, WE WENT
10:01:40 AND REPOSTED THE PROPERTY AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH.
10:01:45 AND THEN LASTLY --
10:01:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE NOT -- IT'S NOT
10:01:53 WHAT I WOULD TRADITIONALLY CONSIDER PORT TAMPA.
10:01:55 IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE IN SUN BAY SOUTH.
10:01:57 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
10:02:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL ME ALL ABOUT COMMUNICATION WITH
10:02:04 SUN BAY SOUTH.
10:02:06 >>TRUETT GARDNER: SO AS SOON AS THIS WENT OUT, IT WAS
10:02:10 PORT TAMPA CITY ASSOCIATION THAT REACHED OUT TO US.
10:02:14 AND THEY EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO IT.
10:02:16 YESTERDAY, THEY INFORMED, LITERALLY, THEY JIGSAWED AROUND
10:02:21 US, AND SO THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING ON OUR NORTH,
10:02:25 AND SO THAT'S WHO WE DEALT WITH, AND DEALT WITH THEM IN
10:02:30 GOOD FAITH.
10:02:30 BY NO MEANS WERE WE --
10:02:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE IS A REQUIREMENT OF SUN BAY
10:02:37 SOUTH.
10:02:39 >>TRUETT GARDNER: WE DID. AND THAT'S WHO NOTICE WENT TO
10:02:41 AND WE NEVER HEARD FROM THEM AND WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY
10:02:45 TO HAVE THEM AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
10:02:46 THE GENTLEMAN HERE TONIGHT SAID HE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO
10:02:49 WORKED WITH THAT PRIOR DEVELOPER.
10:02:51 MY POINT IS SAYING THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAVE BEEN WE DID
10:02:53 AND IT LED TO A COLLABORATIVE MEETING WITH PARKS
10:02:55 DEPARTMENT AND TRANSPORTATION WHERE WE ALL SAT DOWN
10:02:58 TOGETHER, CHRISTOPHER IS GOING TO GET INTO THE
10:03:00 TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THAT WE MOVED UP THE PIPE LINE, BUT
10:03:03 PARKS WAS THE SECOND PART OF THAT EQUATION, AS THE
10:03:06 GENTLEMAN MENTIONED AS WELL, AND WE FOUND A SOLUTION TO
10:03:12 THAT TOO.
10:03:13 WHETHER THAT BE SUN BAY SOUTH OR PORT TAMPA OR SOUTH
10:03:16 GANDY.
10:03:17 SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO HAVE CHRISTOPHER HATTON SPEAK
10:03:21 TO TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
10:03:22 AND THEN THREE ISSUES, RICKY FREDERICKA IS OUR ARBORIST
10:03:29 AND HE'S GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS.
10:03:31 >> MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER HATTON.
10:03:33 I AM A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH
10:03:36 KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATE.
10:03:38 AND I HAVE BEEN FOR 28 YEARS.
10:03:40 KIND OF ACTUALLY SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS FOR THE 20
10:03:43 YEARS I HAVE BEEN DOING STUDIES IN TAMPA, THIS IS
10:03:45 ACTUALLY THE PROJECT THAT'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:03:48 I LIVE ABOUT A MAIL AWAY IN THE LANDINGS.
10:03:52 I GO BY THIS PROJECT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, AND I KNOW A
10:03:54 LOT ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY CONDUCTING TO GET THE
10:03:57 TRAFFIC STUDY.
10:03:58 WE WORKED WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING THE
10:04:01 METHODOLOGY.
10:04:01 WE CONDUCTED DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS PER THE
10:04:06 METHODOLOGY WITH THE CITY.
10:04:08 ONE OF THE ISSUES I HEARD BROUGHT UP IN ONE OF THE PRIOR
10:04:10 ITEMS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BASE TRAFFIC.
10:04:12 AND THAT IS TRUE.
10:04:13 THE BASE TRAFFIC IS EARLY.
10:04:14 NOW THE ONE THING ABOUT BASE TRAFFIC BEING EARLY FROM THE
10:04:16 6 TO 7 WHILE WE DID OUR COUNTS FROM 7 TO 9 AND 4 TO 6,
10:04:20 THE BASE TRAFFIC AS EVERYBODY KNOWS IS THE MAIN GENERATOR
10:04:23 BUT ALSO IT IS REALLY CONSTRAINED BY THE SECURITY GATE
10:04:26 AND THE CLEARANCE.
10:04:27 AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
10:04:29 BASE IS NOT GOING AWAY.
10:04:30 THE CLEARANCE IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR SECURITY.
10:04:31 BUT THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS BETWEEN 6 AND 7. THAT IS NOT
10:04:34 THE PEAK HOUR OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
10:04:37 OUR DEVELOPMENT IS MINIMAL TRAFFIC BETWEEN 6 AND 7.
10:04:39 SO WE ANALYZED PER THE CITY'S REQUEST THE 7 TO 9 A.M.
10:04:44 TIME PERIOD FOR OUR TRAFFIC IS HIGHEST AND STILL THERE'S
10:04:47 STILL BASE TRAFFIC.
10:04:50 OUR AMOUNT OF IMPACTS PLUS THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE THAT
10:04:53 WE ARE DOING IS OVER $150,000 WHICH WILL BE INCLUDED IN
10:04:57 THE CITY'S FUNDING FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA.
10:05:01 SPECIFICALLY, WE TALKED WITH THE CITY YESTERDAY
10:05:06 SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFYING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING
10:05:08 IN THIS AREA.
10:05:09 THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY FUNDED ALONG INTERBAY,
10:05:12 SPECIFICALLY FROM MANHATTAN TO BE THE GATE, THE GATE IS
10:05:20 ACTUALLY FUND IT FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND IS PART OF THE
10:05:23 24-2040, AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL LANE ALL THE WAY FROM
10:05:30 MANHATTAN ALL THE WAY TO BAYSHORE, SO THIS HELPS COVER
10:05:33 NOT ONLY REDUCING CONGESTION BUT ALSO FOR POTENTIAL AS
10:05:39 SPOKEN EARLIER AS WELL, THE EVACUATION TIME.
10:05:42 SO EVACUATION TIMES WILL BE GREATLY IMPROVED BY THIS
10:05:46 IMPROVEMENT, IT WILL ADD AN ADDITIONAL LANE, AND THIS IS
10:05:50 RIGHT HERE, MANHATTAN ALL THE WAY AGAIN OUT TO BAYSHORE,
10:05:53 BUT SPECIFICALLY TO DALE MABRY WHERE NORTH IS THE
10:05:56 EVACUATION ROUTE.
10:05:57 SO THIS IS PART OF THE 2020 PLAN WHICH IS ONE OF THE
10:06:01 HIGHER OPERATORS IN AND AROUND THIS AREA.
10:06:04 ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN AGAIN WE FOCUSED ON THEIR OTHER
10:06:08 IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS MENTIONED, THERE'S AN IMPROVEMENT
10:06:10 ALSO PLANNED FOR MANHATTAN, AND AT TYSON.
10:06:14 SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED AND
10:06:16 FUNDED FOR THIS AREA.
10:06:20 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:06:21 I CAN ANSWER.
10:06:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAY 2040?
10:06:30 >> WELL, IDENTIFIED IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN BUT IT'S
10:06:32 PLANNED FOR WHEN THE SURTAX HAPPENS HOPEFULLY IN 2020 BUT
10:06:36 PART OF THE 2040 PLAN.
10:06:37 >> DID IT MAKE IT ONTO THE LIST THAT WE SENT OVER TO THE
10:06:42 COUNTY COMMISSION?
10:06:43 >> YES.
10:06:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON MANHATTAN?
10:06:45 >> THERE ARE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC INTERSECTION
10:06:48 IMPROVEMENTS AT MANHATTAN AND INTERBAY SPECIFICALLY AS
10:06:50 WELL AS MANHATTAN AND TYSON.
10:06:54 NOT WIDENING BUT THE CHOKE POINTS WHICH IS JUST AS
10:06:57 IMPORTANT.
10:06:58 DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THE PARKING?
10:07:00 AND JUST REAL QUICKLY ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS
10:07:02 ADDRESSED, THE CITY OF TAMPA AGAIN REQUIRES 360 SPACES
10:07:07 WAIVER.
10:07:07 PROPOSING 310.
10:07:10 WE GOT THAT FROM THE INSTITUTE OF ENGINEER, THE PARKING
10:07:13 GENERATION MANUAL, AND THAT'S A NATIONAL WHICH LOOKS AT
10:07:17 DEVELOPMENTS ALL AROUND FOR MULTIFAMILY USES AND AGAIN
10:07:20 THE TERMS OF WHAT ZOM HAS TALKED ABOUT, THEY ARE A
10:07:24 NATIONAL FIRM, BASED UPON DWELLING UNITS AND BEDROOMS.
10:07:28 PER BEDROOMS WE WOULD REQUIRED TO DO 267 SPACES OR FOR
10:07:32 DWELLING UNITS WE GET 318.
10:07:34 SO THE 310 IS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, AND YOU HAVE HEARD THAT
10:07:37 WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THE REQUIRED, BUT THE 310
10:07:40 SPACES THAT WE IDENTIFIED WERE BASED UPON WHAT ZOM HAS
10:07:44 DEVELOPED IN ANY CASE WIDE AS WELL AS THE ITE PARKING
10:07:47 GENERATION MANUAL.
10:07:48 THANK YOU.
10:07:49 >> RICKY FREDERICKA, I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
10:08:02 I AM AN ISA CERTIFIED ARBORIST, TREE RISK ASSESSMENT
10:08:06 QUALIFIED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND CERTIFIED PLANNER.
10:08:09 ON APRIL 3rd, 2019, I CONDUCTED A LEVEL 2 ASSESSMENT
10:08:14 OF EVERY TREE ON-SITE, FOR EVERY GRAND TREE CANDIDATE
10:08:20 ON-SITE AND IDENTIFIED SEVEN GRAND TREES.
10:08:24 THIS IS PRIOR TO SITE PLAN PREPARATION.
10:08:29 FOUR OF THOSE WERE IN LARGELY FAIR TO POOR CONDITION,
10:08:34 WITH THE GRADING SCALE I USED AT THE TIME.
10:08:38 AT DRC, STAFF REQUESTED THAT WE MODIFY TO MODERN OR TO
10:08:42 THE NEW TREE CODE, AND I REFORMATTED MY ASSESSMENT TO
10:08:46 THAT, TO THOSE FINDINGS, AND THAT YIELDED AN 8th
10:08:51 GRAND TREE.
10:08:56 AT THE TIME, I DID NOT DO, AND I PROFESSIONALLY CHOOSE
10:09:00 NOT TO DO, TREE RISK ASSESSMENTS ON VACANT SITES, BECAUSE
10:09:06 I DON'T FEEL THERE'S A TARGET.
10:09:08 THEREFORE I DON'T PROVIDE A HAZARD ASSESSMENT.
10:09:11 AND SO IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND CONSERVATIVE
10:09:14 MEASURE I ADVISED THE TEAM TO REQUEST FOUR NONHAZARDOUS
10:09:21 GRAND TREE REMOVES, WITH THE ASSUMPTION AND THE
10:09:25 EXPLANATION THAT AT THE BUILDING PERMIT APPROVAL, THOSE
10:09:29 TREES WOULD INSTANTLY BECOME HAZARDOUS, AND SO SINCE WE
10:09:32 ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY, RATHER THAN COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN,
10:09:35 I RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT.
10:09:37 AND I HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON EACH TREE,
10:09:40 PHOTOGRAPHS AS WELL, IF YOU NEED MORE DETAIL.
10:09:45 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
10:09:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:49 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:09:50 NO?
10:09:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:09:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE SERVED TOGETHER IN THE VRB.
10:09:58 APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
10:10:01 OUR TREE ARBORIST, BILL -- DID YOU SAY CAME FROM MANATEE?
10:10:08 WHERE DID YOU COME FROM, MANATEE?
10:10:10 >> MADISON.
10:10:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, YOU HEARD WHAT HE SAID IN
10:10:15 REGARD TO THE WELL, YOU KNOW.
10:10:17 I SAID WHY DON'T WE JUST DO A WELL AND SAVE A COUPLE OF
10:10:21 THESE MORE INTERIOR GRAND TREES?
10:10:24 WHAT'S YOUR FEELING ON THAT?
10:10:26 >> BILL: THAT THE HYDROLOGY, WHEN A TREE IS SUNK INTO A
10:10:33 WELL, EXTRA MEASURES HAVE TO BE TAKEN TO PROMOTE ITS
10:10:38 SURVIVAL.
10:10:39 THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE WATER IN THAT AREA AND AERATION TO
10:10:42 THE ROOTS, AND IT'S POSSIBLE.
10:10:44 THE TREE THAT THAT WOULD BE MOST FEASIBLE FOR, THAT IS
10:10:49 BEING PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL, IS -- IT'S GOOD, BUT IS IT IN
10:10:55 MY OPINION, IT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO WARRANT THOSE TYPES
10:10:58 OF SPECIAL DESIGN TECHNIQUES.
10:11:00 AND THE OTHER FOUR THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED CERTAINLY
10:11:03 ARE NOT WARRANTED FOR ANY ATTEMPT LIKE THAT.
10:11:08 PLUS THEY ARE PROXIMAL TO THE DITCH WHICH IS BEING
10:11:10 ADDRESSED AS PART OF THIS SITE PLAN.
10:11:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:11:23 >> I WANT TO BRING UP TAYLOR HUDSON WHO WORKS WITH ME AND
10:11:28 WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD USE.
10:11:31 I THINK WE HAVE SOME PERTINENT INFORMATION ON IT.
10:11:35 IN THE REAL TIME.
10:11:37 BUT THEN ALSO JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE
10:11:40 BELIEVE WE HAVE MET OUR LEGAL BURDEN.
10:11:42 WE HAVE A CLEAN STAFF REPORT.
10:11:44 WE HAVE CONSISTENCY FINDING FROM PLANNING COMMISSION,
10:11:47 CONSISTENT FROM ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION
10:11:49 OF ONE TECHNICAL EXCEPTION, WHICH IS THE PARKING.
10:11:52 AGAIN WE CAN PROVIDE THAT BUT WE DON'T FEEL IT'S
10:11:54 NECESSARY GIVEN THE WAY ZOM DEVELOPS BASED ON THEIR
10:11:58 EXPERIENCE, AND BASED ON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
10:12:01 EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY OUR TRANSPORTATION EXPERT.
10:12:02 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
10:12:08 I DID NOT PLAN ON SPEAKING.
10:12:09 I KNOW THAT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
10:12:13 AREA, I DID WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION BRIEFLY ON THE
10:12:19 ELEMENT HERE, OF OUR PROJECT.
10:12:22 PAGE 234 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COASTAL HIGH
10:12:28 HAZARD AREA, PUBLIC ACCESS.
10:12:31 OUR SITE IS THE GREEN ARROW, NOT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
10:12:41 WE DO COMPLETELY AGREE THAT WE ARE IN EVACUATION ZONE A,
10:12:46 WE BELIEVE THE SITE IS A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAN
10:12:50 DISCUSSED IN AGENDA ITEM 10.
10:12:53 THANKS.
10:12:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
10:12:57 MR. GARDNER, I ANTICIPATE FOUR OR FIVE FOLKS GETTING UP
10:13:01 AND SPEAKING RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
10:13:06 YOU ACKNOWLEDGED A LITTLE WHILE AGO FOR WHATEVER REASON,
10:13:09 I AM NOT POINTING FINGERS, AND I KNOW YOU ARE VERY GOOD
10:13:12 ABOUT MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE
10:13:15 OPPORTUNITY YET TO MEET WITH THEM.
10:13:18 BEFORE WE SPEND ANOTHER HALF HOUR LISTENING TO THEM, I
10:13:22 WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE A MONTH TO TALK TO THEM
10:13:29 AND SEE WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE, SINCE YOU ARE ACTUALLY IN
10:13:34 THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
10:13:35 YOU ARE NOT FORMALLY IN PORT TAMPA.
10:13:39 AND THEN COME BACK.
10:13:44 WE HAVE GOT ALL YOUR INFORMATION.
10:13:46 IT WOULD BE A VERY QUICK HEARING WHEN YOU COME BACK.
10:13:50 BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOU PERHAPS PROPOSE A
10:13:52 CONTINUANCE FOR THAT REASON.
10:13:55 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ASK FOR THAT.
10:13:57 BUT IF I COULD, LET ME CONFER WITH MY CLIENT FOR A
10:14:00 SECOND.
10:14:01 THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACTUAL DEADLINES. I WANT TO MAKE
10:14:04 SURE THEY HAVE THAT TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
10:14:06 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD
10:14:08 LIKE TO DO.
10:14:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WILL BE HERE.
10:14:12 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL TAKE A THREE-MINUTE RECESS.
10:14:15 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
10:19:27
10:19:34 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.
10:20:46 THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE HONORABLE MR. CREW.
10:20:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:20:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:20:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:20:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:20:56 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:20:57 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:20:58 THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SIR TRUETT GARDNER.
10:21:02 >>TRUETT GARDNER: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:21:04 I CONFERRED WITH MY CLIENT, ALSO CONFERRED WITH MRS.
10:21:08 SAMANIEGO.
10:21:09 CONTRACTUALLY MY CLIENT HAS UNTIL DECEMBER 18th.
10:21:12 MRS. SAMANIEGO CAN GET US A FIRST READING ON DECEMBER 12.
10:21:16 AND WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN TALKING TO ANYBODY AND
10:21:20 EVERYBODY AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK WITH THEM.
10:21:21 WE FEEL GREAT ABOUT OUR OUTREACH WITH PORT TAMPA CITY AND
10:21:25 THEIR DESIRE TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH AND THAT GOT US
10:21:28 SOMEWHERE AND WE ARE HAPPY TO DO SO WITH THEM.
10:21:30 SO WITH THAT WE REQUEST A CONTINUANCE UNTIL DECEMBER
10:21:33 12th.
10:21:33 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU, SIR.
10:21:34 BEFORE WE MOVE ON THAT IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO
10:21:37 WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
10:21:41 ONLY ON THE CONTINUANCE.
10:21:42 >> ONLY ON THE CONTINUANCE.
10:21:45 I WOULD --
10:21:46 >> COME ON UP.
10:21:47 >> STEPHANIE POYNER, SOUTH TOWN PARK HOA.
10:21:53 I ACTUALLY CALLED MARY BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SIGN
10:21:55 AND FOUND OUT ABOUT IT WE HAD NOT RECEIVED IT, AS THE
10:21:58 MEMBERSHIP.
10:22:00 I AM TOTALLY OKAY WITH A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE WE HAD NOT
10:22:03 RECEIVED IT; OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAD MISFILED IT.
10:22:07 SO THE FIRST TIME I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT WAS A WEEK OR TWO
10:22:11 AGO.
10:22:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
10:22:13 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:22:14 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:22:15 ANYONE ELSE?
10:22:15 OKAY.
10:22:16 MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE?
10:22:20 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN --
10:22:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DATE AND TIME AGAIN, PLEASE.
10:22:25 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:22:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:22:31 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:22:38 >>LUIS VIERA: AS NUMBER 2.
10:22:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECOND ON THE AGENDA.
10:22:42 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
10:22:48 OKAY.
10:22:48 THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
10:22:49 AND WE THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PATIENCE TONIGHT.
10:22:52 IT WAS A LONG AGENDA.
10:22:57 WE ARE DOING OUR JOB.
10:22:59 THAT'S HOW WE ROLL.
10:23:00 OKAY.
10:23:01 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
10:23:03 WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE MEETING.
10:23:05 SO IF YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE LEAVING, PLEASE EXIT AND
10:23:08 CEASE SPEAKING IN THE CHAMBERS.
10:23:10 WE APPRECIATE IT SINCERELY.
10:23:12 HAVE A GOOD DAY, MY FRIEND.
10:23:13 IT WAS GOOD TO BE SEE YOU.
10:23:18 OKAY.
10:23:19 MOTIONS, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?
10:23:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING NEXT
10:23:25 THURSDAY?
10:23:27 I WILL HOLD MINE UNTIL THEN.
10:23:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
10:23:34 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A COMMENDATION POST
10:23:37 HUMANLY TO OTIS ANTHONY WHO PASSED AWAY, A RADIO HOST AND
10:23:44 COMMUNITY LEADER AS A SOLID WASTE WORKER FOR THE CITY OF
10:23:47 TAMPA, HE SERVED WITH MAYOR SANDY FREEMAN, GIVE THIS
10:23:54 COMMENDATION TO HIS FAMILY AT A DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
10:23:56 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY COMMENTS ON THAT?
10:24:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY WIFE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF
10:24:07 WORKING WITH MR. ANTHONY DURING THE FREEMAN
10:24:10 ADMINISTRATION FOR MANY YEARS, AND THEY PRODUCED A
10:24:13 PROGRAM CALLED KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE, OTIS ANTHONY WAS A
10:24:18 GREAT MAN, A GREAT SPIRIT, A VISIONARY, AND WE'LL MISS
10:24:24 HIM.
10:24:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
10:24:27 OKAY.
10:24:28 WE HAVE A MOTION.
10:24:29 SECOND BY MIRANDA.
10:24:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:32 ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:33 ANYTHING ELSE
10:24:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
10:24:35 COUNCIL, I NOTICED THAT CUSTOMARY IN THE PAST, BUT I WILL
10:24:39 LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM GOING TO PROVIDE THANKSGIVING
10:24:41 DINNER FOR NEXT THURSDAY FOR THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY
10:24:47 FEAST.
10:24:48 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS ALSO INVITED AS USUAL.
10:24:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE A GENTLEMAN, SIR.
10:24:53 ANYTHING ELSE?
10:24:54 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:24:55 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
10:24:58 COUNCILMAN CITRO?
10:24:59 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
10:25:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AT THE REQUEST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
10:25:02 COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
10:25:05 TO SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA,
10:25:10 19-07-AD, TA/CPA 19-08, TA/CPA 19-15, AND A PLAN
10:25:19 AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR THE TA/CPA-19-07E,
10:25:24 TA/CPA 19-13, TA/CPA 19-14 A-G AND TA/CPA 19-16 ON THE
10:25:33 EVENING OF JANUARY 30th, THE YEAR 2020, AT 5:01 P.M.
10:25:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EASY FOR YOU TO SAY.
10:25:42 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:25:45 >>LUIS VIERA: COULD YOU REPEAT THAT MOTION?
10:25:46 WE HAVE A VERY MYSTERIOUS MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:25:50 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:25:52 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
10:25:54 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
10:25:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
10:25:58 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK ONES.
10:25:59 TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP IS PRESENTING THEIR UPDATE ON THEIR
10:26:02 ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND THEIR FORWARD LOOKING POLICY
10:26:08 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE REGION.
10:26:10 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE TAMPA BAY
10:26:14 PARTNERSHIP PRESENT ITS 2020 ECONOMIC PRESENTATION AT
10:26:19 COUNCIL OUR JANUARY 23rd, 2020 MEETING.
10:26:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THE DATE AGAIN?
10:26:27 >>BILL CARLSON: JANUARY 23rd.
10:26:29 I DON'T HAVE MINE WITH ME EITHER.
10:26:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 23rd.
10:26:36 FOR STAFF REPORTS, I DON'T SEE -- IF THEY ARE LISTED I
10:26:39 HAVE NOT SEEN ANY COMMENDATIONS FOR THAT.
10:26:44 HOW LONG A REPORT IS IT?
10:26:47 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK TEN MINUTES PLUS Q AND A.
10:26:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT WHAT POINT IN THE MEETING?
10:26:53 PRESENTATIONS?
10:26:54 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD THINK CEREMONIAL.
10:26:56 >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE CAN.
10:27:00 CAN WE VOTE ON THAT?
10:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:27:02 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:27:03 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:27:05 A SECOND I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:08 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:10 ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:10 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:27:13 >>BILL CARLSON: IT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT ABOUT THIS
10:27:14 TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREAS.
10:27:17 COULD WE ASK FOR A REPORT, A STAFF REPORT?
10:27:22 I DON'T HAVE ANY DATE, BUT COULD WE ASK FOR A STAFF
10:27:24 REPORT ON THE TRANSPORATATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREAS
10:27:27 IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF
10:27:31 REVISING THEM?
10:27:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ASKING FOR STAFF TO APPEAR?
10:27:40 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:27:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT THAT IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY?
10:27:46 >>BILL CARLSON: WHENEVER WE HAVE AN AVAILABLE DATE.
10:27:47 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION FOR SOUTH TAMPA,
10:27:51 HOW MUCH -- AND I AM JUST ASKING TOTALLY, IT WAS JUST
10:27:55 CURIOSITY, TO HAVE IT LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY.
10:27:58 IS THAT TOO MUCH OF AN ENDEAVOR?
10:28:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M OKAY WITH THE WHOLE CITY BUT SOUTH
10:28:03 TAMPA IT'S A HUGE ISSUE.
10:28:06 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S JUST DO SOUTH TAMPA.
10:28:08 THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
10:28:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TWO STAFF REPORTS FOR FEBRUARY
10:28:14 6th, AND YOU HAVE FOUR STAFF REPORTS FOR JANUARY
10:28:16 25th.
10:28:16 MORE MAY COME UP WITH THE HOLIDAY.
10:28:21 I DON'T KNOW.
10:28:22 DO YOU WANT FEBRUARY 6th?
10:28:25 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, ON FEBRUARY 6.
10:28:26 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:28:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:30 OPPOSED?
10:28:31 OKAY.
10:28:32 JUST VERY BRIEFLY I MAKE A MOTION FOR COMMENDATION FOR
10:28:34 THE CITY OF TAMPA WOMEN'S HISTORY COMMITTEE TO BE
10:28:36 PRESENTED AT THEIR EVENT ON MARCH 3rd, 2019 AT THE
10:28:39 TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER.
10:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA,
10:28:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:47 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I THINK THAT'S IT.
10:28:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I FORGOT ONE OTHER IMPORTANT THING.
10:28:54 MY MOTHER WAS UNDER THE WEATHER THIS WEEK AT 89.
10:28:58 SHE'S DOING MUCH BETTER AND SHE WATCHES EVERY WEEK.
10:29:01 SO I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT.
10:29:05 >> CAN WE GET A CAMERA? A WIDE SHOT?
10:29:11 THAT'S VERY SWEET.
10:29:12 >> I KNOW WE ARE CUTTING IT CLOSE, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL,
10:29:17 BUT OBVIOUSLY TODAY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A GOOD DAY TO DO
10:29:19 AN ETHICS TRAINING, WITH YOUR SCHEDULE THE WAY IT WAS.
10:29:23 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:29:26 SO IT WAS A GOOD CALL.
10:29:27 BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SCHEDULE A SPECIAL
10:29:29 DISCUSSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, DECEMBER 16th, 2019
10:29:33 FROM 8:30 A.M. TO 12:30 P.M. FOR THE ETHICS AND SUNSHINE
10:29:38 LAW CLASS.
10:29:39 I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
10:29:42 AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ARRANGED SO WE CAN HAVE IT
10:29:45 RECORDED FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO MAKE IT AND
10:29:48 WOULD BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE IT AS WELL.
10:29:50 I TALKED WITH THE FLORIDA BAR AND WE COULD HAVE CREDIT
10:29:52 EVEN FOR THE LAWYERS AS LONG AS IT'S RECORDED.
10:29:55 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.
10:29:58 BUT IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION TODAY, I WILL HAVE
10:30:02 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND MORE DETAILS NEXT WEEK.
10:30:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, MR. SHELBY, I WILL BE UNABLE TO
10:30:08 ATTEND.
10:30:09 I HAVE A MEDIATION THAT DAY WHICH I MUST ATTEND, IF IT
10:30:15 WON'T SETTLE BEFORE.
10:30:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH TOM DEA
10:30:20 OF CTTV TO SEE IF WE COULD HAVE THAT RECORDED.
10:30:26 >>LUIS VIERA: GIVE ME THE VHS AND I'LL WATCH IT.
10:30:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO THAT
10:30:34 REGARD.
10:30:34 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. CARLSON, SECONDED
10:30:38 BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:30:39 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
10:30:42 NAY.
10:30:43 JUST KIDDING.
10:30:44 MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL
10:30:48 IN FAVOR?
10:30:50 COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.
10:30:51 THANK YOU.
10:30:52 [MEETING ADJOURNED]
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