09:00:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
09:00:37 CRA BOARD -- COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR THE
09:00:44 CITY OF TAMPA IS STARTING TO HAVE ITS SESSION NOW.
09:00:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
09:00:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.
09:00:57 ALL RIGHT, TODAY WE HAVE GIVING US OUR INVOCATION
09:01:02 BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
09:01:06 SHE IS AN OUTSTANDING PASTOR, ENTREPRENEUR, AND
09:01:08 COMMUNITY ACTIVIST.
09:01:12 BISHOP PATTY IS A NATIVE OF TAMPA, ATTENDED PUBLIC
09:01:16 SCHOOL SYSTEM AND IS A SENIOR PASTOR OF TRINITY AND
09:01:17 FAITH MINISTRIES.
09:01:23 SHE HAS RECEIVED, EXCUSE ME, NUMEROUS ACCOLADES AND
09:01:26 AWARDS FOR HER OUTSTANDING COMMITMENT TO HER COMMUNITY.
09:01:31 IN 1996, SHE WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE IN
09:01:33 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO BE APPOINTED AS THE OLYMPIC
09:01:36 TORCH BEARER.
09:01:44 SHE WAS AWARDED THE CCHR HUMAN RIGHTS AWARD IN 1998.
09:01:47 SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY TIGER CLUB.
09:01:50 SHE IS ALSO A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE CAMBRIDGE WHO'S
09:01:54 WHO REGISTRY OF EXECUTIVES AND PROFESSIONALS.
09:01:58 SHE IS FOUNDED AND HOSTED MANY TALK SHOWS AND AIRED ON
09:02:02 WTMP, THE SOUL OF TAMPA BAY --
09:02:02 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:02:07 -- 88.5 AND NEWS TALK 208 RADIO AND STARTED HER OWN
09:02:12 REFERRAL SERVICE THAT SERVICES THE ENTIRE BAY AREA.
09:02:16 BISHOP PATTY IS DEVOTED WIFE OF DEACON JESSIE PATTY AND
09:02:21 IS A CARING MOTHER OF THREE AND GRANDMOTHER OF SIX.
09:02:24 IF WE CAN ALL PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
09:02:25 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:02:27 BISHOP PATTY.
09:02:28 >> GOD BLESS YOU.
09:02:32 THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:02:35 LET US PRAY, OUR FATHER, FATHER OF THE MAKER OF HEAVEN
09:02:38 AND EARTH AND ALL MAN KIND, FATHER WE SAY THANK YOU FOR
09:02:40 YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY.
09:02:44 WE THANK YOU FOR MEN AND WOMEN FIGHTING ON FOREIGN AND
09:02:47 DOMESTIC LAND TO ENSURE OUR FREEDOM.
09:02:48 WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR.
09:02:52 WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OUR CITY COUNCILMEN.
09:02:55 GIVE THE COURAGE, THE BILL, THE LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING
09:02:58 TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT OF YOUR PEOPLE.
09:03:00 FATHER, WE ASK FOR THEM TO REMEMBER THE HOMELESS, THE
09:03:05 MENTALLY ILL, THOSE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE, FATHER.
09:03:09 IN THIS SEASON, WE ASK UNITY AND PEACE, FATHER GOD, WE
09:03:11 SPREAD GOOD WILL AMONG ALL MEN AND WOMEN.
09:03:13 NOW FATHER GOD, WE ARE GOING TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
09:03:15 THAT WE KNOW THAT IT IS GOING TO DONE.
09:03:18 THAT EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TAKE THEIR JOB,
09:03:22 THEIR ROLE SERIOUSLY FATHER GOD AND DO WHAT IS IN THE
09:03:27 BEST OF EVERY CITIZEN THAT SUNDAY THE AUSPICE OF THE
09:03:28 CITY OF TAMPA.
09:03:39 WE SAY WE GIVE YOU PRAISE AND GRACE AND HONOR QUESTION
09:03:41 ASK IN YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST.
09:03:42 AMEN.
09:03:43 AMEN.
09:03:52 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:03:58 ROLL CALL.
09:04:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:04:07 GOOD MORNING.
09:04:09 AT THIS TIME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE GOING TO
09:04:10 HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:04:14 EACH PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME OF PUBLIC
09:04:19 COMMENT WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
09:04:22 IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, COULD YOU
09:04:33 PLEASE LINE UP ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT OF THIS ROOM.
09:04:44 COUNCILWOMAN, GOOD MORNING.
09:04:45 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:04:49 GOOD MORNING, CRA MEMBERS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
09:04:54 MY NAME IS LINDA SAUL-SENA, AND I'M HERE TO STRONGLY
09:04:58 ENCOURAGE TO YOU SUPPORT THE YOU LEADING YOUR ROLE AS
09:05:04 THE CRA AS INDEPENDENT AUTONOMOUS DECISION-MAKERS.
09:05:08 FOR MANY YEARS, 20 YEARS, I SERVED ON TAMPA CITY
09:05:10 COUNCIL AND IN THAT CONTEXT WORKED -- SERVED AS A
09:05:13 MEMBER AND AT TIMES THE CHAIR OF THE CRA.
09:05:14 I READ THE RULES.
09:05:19 THE RULES ARE VERY CLEAR IN THAT YOU EACH HAVE THE
09:05:25 OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND DIRECTLY AS THE CRA BOARD AND
09:05:30 COMMUNICATE, INVEST IN, AND SHAPE THE NEIGHBORHOODS
09:05:35 WHICH ARE CRA AREAS.
09:05:37 NOW YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE RIGHT NOW.
09:05:39 OFF MARVELOUS MAYOR.
09:05:43 YOU HAVE A GREAT ADMINISTRATION; HOWEVER, YOU HAVE THE
09:05:51 AUTONOMY AS THE CRA BOARD TO BE YOUR FULLEST MOST
09:05:55 INDEPENDENT SELVES.
09:05:59 YOUR CONSTITUENTS I TRULY BELIEVE WOULD PREFER THAT
09:06:02 BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS BUSY WITH
09:06:05 MANY, MANY THINGS BUT YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO
09:06:08 LISTEN TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS WANT, RESPOND DIRECTLY
09:06:12 TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND SHAPE POLICY AND INVEST IN THE
09:06:16 CRA NEIGHBORHOODS IN A WAY THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE
09:06:22 WAY -- IN A WAY THAT -- THAT THE ESTABLISHING
09:06:26 LEGISLATION ALLOWS YOU TO AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
09:06:27 STEP UP.
09:06:29 AND I THINK THAT IT'S -- YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELVES.
09:06:31 YOU OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:06:36 YOU OWE IT TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHOSE FUNDING FOR
09:06:40 PROJECTS IS NOT NECESSARILY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THEY
09:06:41 WOULD MOST LIKE TO SEE.
09:06:44 YOU ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE, MORE RESPONSIBLE, AND I THINK
09:06:46 YOU WOULD REALLY ENJOY THIS ROLE.
09:06:50 SO ON THAT NOTE, GIVE YOURSELF THE GIFT OF POWER,
09:06:53 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE LEGISLATION ALLOWS YOU.
09:06:59 STEP UP AND TAKE IT AND USE IT AS WISELY AS I KNOW YOU
09:06:59 WOULD.
09:07:01 YOU ARE A VERY SAVVY GROUP.
09:07:02 IT'S A GREAT GROUP.
09:07:05 I KNOW AS A CRA BOARD YOU WILL ACCOMPLISH WONDERFUL
09:07:07 THINGS FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:07:09 THANK YOU.
09:07:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:07:17 >> ALTHOUGH WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE HER, STATE HER NAME
09:07:18 FOR THE RECORD.
09:07:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHE DID.
09:07:24 >> I AM SORRY, I DID NOT HEAR THAT.
09:07:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT PLEASE.
09:07:28 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:07:37 MY NAME IS MIKE PAONESSA, AND YOU WILL BE ASKED LATER
09:07:41 ON THIS MORNING, AGENDA NUMBER 4, TO PUT A PAUSE ON THE
09:07:45 DESIGN PROCESS FOR HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
09:07:48 AS YOU KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CONCERNS WITH THAT
09:07:50 SPECIFIC REASON FOR THE PAUSE.
09:07:53 WE DO NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE USE OF WHAT IS
09:07:58 ULTIMATELY BEING ASKED BY THE DEVELOPER WHICH THE USE
09:08:00 OF PUBLIC LAND FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES.
09:08:04 SO, AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REITERATE THAT
09:08:07 SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF WHAT THEY ARE
09:08:08 ASKING FOR ON THE PARK.
09:08:11 BUT -- AND FURTHER SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE
09:08:12 PAUSE.
09:08:15 OUR CONCERN IS, WHERE DOES IT END?
09:08:17 WE HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS.
09:08:20 OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING ITSELF IS NOWHERE NEAR OBVIOUSLY
09:08:24 COMPLETE OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
09:08:26 THERE IS -- WHETHER IT IS TOTALLY ACHIEVABLE TO USE IT
09:08:31 FOR THAT PURPOSE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OR SPECIFIC
09:08:34 INFORMATION FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER AND
09:08:36 RESTAURANTEUR.
09:08:41 THE PROCESS ITSELF, THE ISSUES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO
09:08:43 THIS PAUSE THAT WOULD COME AT A LATER DATE.
09:08:44 LIQUOR IN THE PARK.
09:08:49 USING THE PARK ITSELF AND THE TIME THAT THIS WOULD BE
09:08:54 UTILIZED FOR THE RESTAURANT, BAR THAT IT WOULD BE
09:08:55 CONSIDERED.
09:08:59 WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH MR. CALERONI'S OTHER
09:09:00 ESTABLISHMENTS.
09:09:03 AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE -- THEY LEAN MORE TOWARD A
09:09:05 DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT.
09:09:08 SO WE ARE BEING ASKED TO PUT A PAUSE ON SOMETHING THAT
09:09:11 EVERYTHING IS BASED ON SPECULATION AT THIS POINT.
09:09:14 WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS PROJECT CAN WORK.
09:09:17 AND THEN HOW LONG IS THIS PAUSE FOR?
09:09:20 IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE LEFT THE
09:09:22 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS GONE THROUGH
09:09:25 MULTIPLE YEARS OF A PROCESS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE AT
09:09:28 THIS POINT IS NOW BEING ASKED TO SET ASIDE AND PUT
09:09:31 EVERYTHING ON HOLD SO WE CAN NOW ACCOMMODATE THE
09:09:35 BUSINESS OWNER WHO WANTS TO REFURBISH THE BUILDING AND
09:09:39 ULTIMATELY REARRANGE THE PARK AND TAKE THAT SECTION OF
09:09:44 THE PARK THAT HAS BEEN REARRANGED AND APPLY AND RETAIN
09:09:47 PRIVATE -- TO USE THAT PARK FOR PRIVATE SPACE.
09:09:49 SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES ON THIS.
09:09:52 I ASK THAT YOU ALSO THINK OF THE FACT THIS IS A
09:09:53 HALF-ACRE PARK.
09:09:59 THIS IS NOT A DESIGN THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR
09:10:03 RESTAURANT USE SUCH AS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD.
09:10:06 SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS SUCH AS CURTIS HIXON PARK WHICH
09:10:12 WAS A SPECIFIC RFP PUT OUT FOR THAT SPACE AND SAIL BAR
09:10:13 AS WELL.
09:10:16 NO OTHER PRECEDENTS SET FOR THIS USE THAT IS BEING
09:10:17 ASKED FOR.
09:10:22 I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU GO FORWARD TO
09:10:24 EITHER APPROVE OR STOP THE PROCESS.
09:10:25 THANK YOU.
09:10:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, NEXT PLEASE.
09:10:34 >> HI, MICHAEL AVELOS, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN
09:10:35 RIVER ARTS.
09:10:41 I WOULD LIKE PEOPLE REPRESENTING DRANA AND I DON'T
09:10:43 THINK I NEED MORE THAN THE THREE MINUTES.
09:10:49 TO ECHO WHAT MICHAEL PAONESSA WAS ADDRESSING, WE HAVE
09:10:52 BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNER, THE LOBBYIST AND
09:10:57 THE RESTAURANTEUR, AND WE STILL DON'T SEE A TRULY
09:11:00 POSITIVE REASON TO STOP THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN
09:11:02 STARTED AND STOP THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE.
09:11:07 WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS, YOU'VE HEARD
09:11:08 OUR POSITION HERE.
09:11:12 I KNOW WE HAVE SENT YOU A FEW MESSAGES AND E-MAILS.
09:11:14 AND THEN FROM THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE HEARD CERTAIN
09:11:17 MESSAGES THAT WE DON'T FEEL ARE COMPLETELY ACCURATE OR
09:11:22 FALSE -- I AM SORRY, ARE COMPLETELY ACCURATE.
09:11:25 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE FEEL THAT THERE HAS BEEN
09:11:29 MISREPRESENTATION AND I WILL JUST NAME A FEW THINGS.
09:11:32 THINGS HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS TOPIC SUCH AS
09:11:33 BATHROOM USE.
09:11:37 THE RESTAURANT WILL HAVE BATHROOM FOR THE PUBLIC, AND,
09:11:40 NO, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FOR THE PUBLIC AND THEN
09:11:41 YES, THEY ARE.
09:11:42 PUBLIC SEATING.
09:11:44 THE RESTAURANT IS SAYING THAT THEY CAN HAVE THIS
09:11:48 RESTAURANT SPACE AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO COME AND SIT
09:11:48 THERE.
09:11:52 I DON'T KNOW BUT GUYS, IF I SEE A RESTAURANT THAT HAS
09:11:55 SPACE RESERVED FOR THEM I AM NOT GOING TO BE INCLINED
09:11:57 TO USE THAT SPACE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SAYING IT IS FOR
09:12:00 PUBLIC USE.
09:12:03 YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THIS WOULD BE A REALLY SIMPLE DESIGN
09:12:07 SWITCH, WHERE IN REALITY, IT IS NOT THAT EASY.
09:12:09 IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE.
09:12:12 TO MAKE'S POINT, A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN,
09:12:14 ZONING, LIQUOR LICENSE.
09:12:17 THERE NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTMENT, NOT JUST THE REDESIGN BUT
09:12:22 SO MANY OTHER FACTOR THAT'S WE DON'T KNOW WILL HAPPEN.
09:12:26 AND OUR DEPENDENCIES TO ULTIMATELY GET TO A PLACE WHERE
09:12:29 WE WILL ACCOMMODATE SUCH A REQUEST.
09:12:32 WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT MIGHT TAKE.
09:12:35 THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF
09:12:38 THAT -- IN A FIRST SESSION WHEN YOU WERE APPROACHED,
09:12:43 THERE WAS SOME EXCHANGE ABOUT HOW MICHAEL PAOENESSA THE
09:12:46 PRESIDENT WAS IN FAVOR OF ALL OF THIS CHANGE.
09:12:48 AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.
09:12:50 THERE WAS SOME REPRESENTATION IN ANOTHER MEETING WHERE
09:12:56 IT WAS IMPLIED THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES HAD
09:13:02 BEEN TALKED TO AND THE WAY IT WAS WORDED SOUNDED LIKE
09:13:04 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OF THIS
09:13:05 PAYROLL WHEN WE ARE NOT.
09:13:08 I BRING ALL THAT JUST TO SAY, TO SHARE, THAT I NEED ALL
09:13:11 OF YOU TO REALLY BE RESPECTFUL OF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
09:13:15 THIS IS A PERSON WHO IS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:13:18 AND WE WANT TO SEE HER BUILDINGS SUCCEED.
09:13:21 WE WANT TO SEE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
09:13:25 MAYBE NOT THIS SPECIFIC RESTAURANT EUR.
09:13:29 MAYBE ANOTHER RESTAURANTEUR TO COME IN AND WITHOUT
09:13:34 USING THE PUBLIC SPACE BECAUSE THAT IS OUR POSITION.
09:13:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:13:35 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:13:38 >> GOOD MORNING, KIMBERLY MAGUIRE.
09:13:40 I AM A RESIDENT AT SKY POINT IN DOWNTOWN.
09:13:44 AND.I JUST WANTED TO BRING A FEW POINTS TO YOUR
09:13:47 ATTENTION, CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS OF OUR BUILDING HAVE
09:13:53 IN REGARD TO THE MASSEY PARK PAUSE.
09:13:57 ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR GREEN SPACE
09:13:58 WITHIN THE CITY.
09:14:02 AND LITTLE BY LITTLE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS DISAPPEARING.
09:14:06 TAMPA WAS RANKED AS ONE OF THE BEST GREEN SPACE CITIES
09:14:11 IN THE U.S. RECENTLY, AND IF WE KEEP WHITTLING AWAY AT
09:14:14 THOSE AREAS, IT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE DRAW
09:14:18 THAT OUR CITY HAS, AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL WANT IT TO BE
09:14:22 A SUCCESSFUL, VIBRANT CITY, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
09:14:25 THINGS THAT BRINGS THE PEOPLE TO THE CITY, ONE OF THE
09:14:27 THINGS THAT BROUGHT MY HUSBAND AND MYSELF DOWNTOWN THAT
09:14:29 WE HAVE THESE GREEN SPACES TO ENJOY.
09:14:32 SO I JUST FEEL THAT IF WE ARE TAKING THESE SPACES AWAY
09:14:36 LITTLE BY LITTLE, EVENTUALLY THAT IS GOING TO
09:14:36 DISAPPEAR.
09:14:41 WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE REGARDING THE
09:14:44 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUILDING NEXT TO THE PARK.
09:14:51 I HAVE HEARD ROOFTOP DECK OR ROOFTOP BAR.
09:14:52 , AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NOISE ALREADY IN THE EVENINGS
09:14:55 FROM SOME OF THE CURRENT BAR LOCATIONS THAT ARE
09:14:56 DOWNTOWN.
09:15:01 AND IT IS VERY DISRUPTIVE TO US AND OUR ENJOYMENT OF
09:15:02 OUR LIFE.
09:15:05 THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS GOING UP
09:15:09 IN THE AREA, SO IT IS GOING TO BE A DENSE RESIDENTIAL
09:15:12 AREA AND I DON'T SEE THAT A ROOFTOP BAR IS SOMETHING
09:15:16 CONDUCIVE OF HAVING FULL ENJOYMENT OF OUR CITY.
09:15:19 WE REALLY DON'T WANT THAT NIGHT CLUB KIND OF VIBE IN
09:15:21 THAT AREA.
09:15:25 AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS OF CONCERN IS PARKING,
09:15:32 BUILDING CODES, NONE OF THE PROPOSED UPDATES TO THE
09:15:34 BUILDING ARE AVAILABLE.
09:15:38 SO IT IS REALLY AN UNKNOWN MOVING FORWARD, AND I JUST
09:15:42 REALLY ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFORE
09:15:47 YOU DO IT AND MAKING SURE IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
09:15:50 WITHIN WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS NOT JUST WHAT LARGER
09:15:52 BUSINESS OWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR.
09:15:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
09:15:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:16:00 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:16:07 >> HELLO, MY NAME IS FRANK PROBOWSKI, THE OWNER OF
09:16:09 EUROPEAN WAX CENTER ON JACKSON STREET.
09:16:12 I AM NOT A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT AND I DON'T HAVE THE SAME
09:16:16 DOG IN THE HUNT THAT SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, BUT YET
09:16:19 WOULD STILL SUPPORT MANY OF THE COMMENTS YOU HAVE JUST
09:16:22 HEARD EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A COMMERCIAL RETAIL
09:16:27 ESTABLISHMENT LIKE WHAT I HAVE AND I UNDERSTAND THE
09:16:28 IMPORTANCE OF THINGS LIKE THAT FOR DOWNTOWN.
09:16:33 WHEN I THINK OF DOWNTOWN, THOUGH, A GOOD, VIBRANT
09:16:36 DOWNTOWN, IT IS NOT JUST THE COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OF
09:16:40 THINGS, BUT ALSO HAVING A VERY ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
09:16:45 I PARTICIPATED WITH THE DRANA BOARD IN VARIOUS
09:16:49 ITERATIONS, IT WAS UPTOWN COUNCIL AT THE BEGINNING AND
09:16:51 GONE THROUGH SEVERAL PERMUTATIONS.
09:16:56 AND I ALWAYS STAYED INVOLVED WITH IT BECAUSE I ADMIRE
09:16:58 AND APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE
09:17:00 DONE THIS TRYING TO FOLLOW PROCESS TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS
09:17:04 AND TRYING TO ENGAGE THE RESIDENTS OF DOWNTOWN AND GET
09:17:08 THEM MORE INVOLVED SO THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCREASE
09:17:11 MEMBERSHIP AND MAKE THE CITY A BETTER PLACE.
09:17:14 WE CHOSE THREE YEARS AGO TO FOCUS ON A SINGLE PROJECT
09:17:18 AND MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD -- WE COULD JUST ACCOMPLISH
09:17:21 REALLY -- ONE VERY SIGNIFICANT VISIBLE THING THAT WOULD
09:17:24 GO A LONG WAY IN TRYING TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
09:17:28 AND THEY CHOSE HERMAN MASSEY PARK AND THEY WORKED
09:17:31 EXACTLY THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH CHAR THE RES AND THE
09:17:34 COOPERATION WITH THE CITY WITH THE FUNDING AND CHANGES
09:17:38 AND FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT WAS EXCITING TO SEE THE
09:17:40 PROGRESS THEY MADE GIVEN THE DIFFICULTIES THAT I HAVE
09:17:41 SEEN FROM -- FROM BEFORE.
09:17:45 SO I JUST FIND IT A LITTLE DISHEARTENING TO BE RIGHT ON
09:17:48 THE EVE OF CONSTRUCTION TO FINISH WHAT THEY HAD STARTED
09:17:53 THREE YEARS AGO, AND THE SIGNAL THAT SENDS TO A GOOD
09:17:56 COMMUNITY OF THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ENGAGED, TO SEE IT
09:18:01 NOW GET POTENTIALLY HELD UP FOR A LONG TIME, I THINK IT
09:18:04 REALLY WORKS AGAINST US.
09:18:08 SO RECOGNIZING SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT COULD HAPPEN
09:18:11 FROM THIS, I THINK MY BIGGEST FEAR WOULD BE JUST HOW
09:18:14 LONG WOULD WE BE DELAYING THIS PROCESS.
09:18:17 IF IT DOES GO BACK TO DISCUSSION WHICH IS ALWAYS A
09:18:21 HEALTHY THING, I WOULD IMPLORE THAT IT BE A QUICK
09:18:24 DISCUSSION AND QUICK IMPLEMENTATION SO THE PLANS WE HAD
09:18:27 FOR THIS SPRING CAN STILL HAPPEN, BUT IF IT LOOKS LIKE
09:18:30 TAKING IT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD IS GOING TO DELAY
09:18:34 US FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I THINK WE ARE BETTER OFF TO MOVE
09:18:34 AHEAD.
09:18:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:47 NEXT ALREADY PLEASE.
09:18:48 >> TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:18:52 EVERY TIME I COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:18:55 I COME TO REPRESENT A CERTAIN TYPE OF HATRED AND TALK
09:19:02 ABOUT A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED THAT NOT ONLY THIS CITY
09:19:06 COUNCIL BUT PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS, PRETTY MAYORS HAVE
09:19:09 FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE AND FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
09:19:13 IT IS A HATRED THAT HAS MANIFESTED ITSELF IN A CERTAIN
09:19:18 WAY THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK, THEY JUST LOOK AT YOU AND ANY
09:19:21 RESPECTFUL WAY YOU ARE COMING FROM, IF YOU WERE COMING
09:19:25 FROM A RADICAL, MAD PERSON OR COMING TO YOU AS A SAINT.
09:19:28 IF YOU ARE BLACK, THEY DON'T HEAR YOU, PERIOD.
09:19:35 I DON'T CARE IF YOU WERE MALCOLM X OR MARTIN LUTHER
09:19:35 KING.
09:19:39 WHITE PEOPLE DON'T HEAR US OR FEAR OUR PAIN AND
09:19:40 SUFFERING.
09:19:41 NOTHING THEY FEEL FOR US.
09:19:44 THEY DON'T FEEL OUR NEED FOR REPARATIONS.
09:19:46 ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
09:19:53 THEY LOVE TO SEE US IN THAT MERCIFUL, MERCILESS.
09:19:54 BEGGING.
09:19:56 BEGGING ON OUR KNEES.
09:19:57 BEGGING IN FRONT OF THEM.
09:19:59 BEGGING.
09:20:01 AND THEY ATTACK US IN DIFFER WAYS.
09:20:06 THEY ATTACK US PERSONALLY LIKE THEY ATTACK MELVIN AND
09:20:11 MR. CHAMBERS AND JACK AND OTHER PEOPLE.
09:20:14 THE POLICE WILL MURDER US, KILL NEWS COLD BLOOD IN THE
09:20:17 AUSPICES OF LOOKING FOR DRUGS OR WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING
09:20:20 WHERE YOU ARE WORKING DOWN THE STREET AND THEY WANT TO
09:20:20 HARASS YOU.
09:20:22 NO PROBABLE CAUSE.
09:20:24 THAT MILLIONS OF US ARE IN PRISON FOR.
09:20:24 VICTIMLESS CRIMES.
09:20:28 TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED IT.
09:20:32 THEY HARASS US THROUGH THE LAWS, THE BICYCLE STOPS.
09:20:35 THE CONFISCATION OF OUR AUTOMOBILES AND OUR
09:20:37 POSSESSIONS.
09:20:40 EVEN BEFORE THEY KNEW HOW WE GOT IT THEY TAKE IT FROM
09:20:43 YOU IF YOU ARE BLACK.
09:20:54 AND THEN THEY ATTACK US ON WHOLE THROUGH AS A PEOPLE
09:20:56 THROUGH INITIATIVES BY COVERING UP OUR GRAVEYARDS
09:21:02 GENTRIFICATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, DIFFERENT THINGS
09:21:05 THAT THEY TO DO US.
09:21:08 BUT THEY JUST LIKE TO SEE US BEGGING ON OUR KNEES,
09:21:09 BEGS.
09:21:10 IT IS CHRISTMAS SEASON.
09:21:13 WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET A GIFT.
09:21:15 WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BEG FOR A GIFT.
09:21:19 YEAH.
09:21:23 SO THE THING IS, FOR A CITY HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN
09:21:27 1824 AND NOW WE ARE FOUR YEARS SHORT OF 100 YEARS OF
09:21:31 ESTABLISHMENT AND AFRICAN PEOPLE AIN'T GOT NOTHING OUT
09:21:31 OF IT.
09:21:34 NOT EVEN THE TAX DOLLARS OTHER THAN BEGGING.
09:21:40 IT IS TIME FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL TO STEP UP.
09:21:43 A FEAR AND HATRED OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:21:45 THERE WAS A TIME I COULDN'T SPEAK AND THEY WANTED TO
09:21:48 DRAG YOU AWAY BY THE POLICE.
09:21:50 SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
09:21:51 TIME FOR A CHANGE.
09:21:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:55 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:21:59 >> GOOD MORNING REASON JOHNNY JOHNSON.
09:22:07 PIGGYBACK AFTER WHAT HE SAID, WE ARE SLAVES UPON THIS
09:22:07 LAND.
09:22:08 UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING.
09:22:11 WE ARE THE ONLY NATIONALITY OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN
09:22:13 SLAVES UPON THIS LAND WHICH WE ALL WALK.
09:22:17 SO UNDERSTAND THE POINT AND THE STANDPOINT WHICH WE
09:22:22 LOOK TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM.
09:22:25 AGAIN, YOU WANT US TO SAY THINGS ARE DIFFERENT WHEN YOU
09:22:27 ARE SERVING US THE SAME FOOD.
09:22:31 BUT PUTTING IT IN A BRAND-NEW POT AND SAY THINGS HAVE
09:22:32 CHANGED.
09:22:37 ONLY WHEN YOU CHANGE THE INGREDIENTS AND WE TASTE IT,
09:22:40 WILL WE GIVE YOU AN HONEST ANSWER THAT THINGS HAVE
09:22:41 CHANGED.
09:22:46 YOU ARE SERVING US THE SAME TAINTED, CONTAMINATED FOOD
09:22:49 IN A NEW POT AND WANT TO SAY OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE
09:22:50 CHANGED.
09:22:51 GO OVER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:22:54 YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE YOU GOT CITY COUNCIL AND
09:22:57 RIDE THROUGH -- YOU WON'T EVEN RIDE THROUGH BECAUSE NO
09:22:58 PLACE TO RIDE THROUGH.
09:23:02 AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ONLY WAY IT IS GOING TO GROW
09:23:05 IF YOU GET SOMEBODY ON CRA TO BRING VIBRANT BUSINESSES
09:23:06 OVER THERE.
09:23:08 ALL OUR MONEY HAS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
09:23:11 TO OTHER PLACES SO WE CAN ENDURE IT.
09:23:12 WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.
09:23:16 LOOK AT HILLSBOROUGH FROM WALMART DOWN TO THE CASINO
09:23:19 AND AIN'T NOTHING BUT LIQUOR STORES AND HAIR SALONS.
09:23:21 WE NEED RESTAURANTS.
09:23:23 WE NEED PEOPLE WITH BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO STAY
09:23:26 IN OUR COMMUNITY SO THE MONEY STAY HERE, THEY WILL CARE
09:23:28 ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL, THEIR HOUSE, THEN THEIR BUSINESS,
09:23:32 THEN OUR COMMUNITY WILL GAIN VALUE.
09:23:34 THEN WE WILL HAVE VALUE AND YOU WILL BE HIGHLY
09:23:37 INTERESTED IN US INSTEAD OF JUST COMING AROUND WHEN IT
09:23:38 IS VOTING TIME FOR VOTES.
09:23:40 WE, AGAIN, THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM SAYING.
09:23:42 WE HAVE TO LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY TO GO OTHER PLACES TO
09:23:45 ENJOY OURSELVES.
09:23:48 AND WHERE WE NOT EVEN LIVE.
09:23:48 DOWNTOWN.
09:23:52 ALL THESE PLACES WAS JUST LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BUT
09:23:55 THEY GOT A CRA THAT IS DOING SOMETHING AND BRINGING
09:23:58 THINGS SO PEOPLE CAN STAY AND FEEL LIKE THEY ARE AT
09:23:58 HOME.
09:24:01 NOBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY FEEL HOME.
09:24:04 WE ALWAYS HAVE TO LEAVE TO GO PLACES AND SPEND OUR
09:24:04 MONEY.
09:24:07 WHETHER THAT MEANS WE ARE TAKING OUR MONEY OUT OF OUR
09:24:09 COMMUNITY WHERE WE SHOULD BE STAYING AND THE ONLY WAY
09:24:11 IT WILL GROW IS MONEY STAY IN THE COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE
09:24:14 GETTING OUR MONEY AND TAKING OUT OUR BUSINESSES.
09:24:16 THERE IS NO AFRICAN BUSINESSES THAT ARE STRIVING IN
09:24:18 EAST TAMPA.
09:24:20 WITH NO SUPPORT FROM THE CITY AND NOBODY.
09:24:22 JUST RIDE.
09:24:22 BOOM.
09:24:25 22ND, HILLSBOROUGH, 34TH.
09:24:27 LOOK AT OUR STREETS.
09:24:28 ALL THIS TAX MONEY.
09:24:30 TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
09:24:33 WE NEED TO START BEING REPRESENTED PROPERLY SO THAT
09:24:37 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LOOK LIKE A JOINTED VENUE, NOT EAST
09:24:40 TAMPA, NO DIFFERENT THAN SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA.
09:24:42 WHEN YOU ARE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE
09:24:44 TO TELL NO MATTER WHAT PART OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY YOU
09:24:45 ARE IN THAT YOU ARE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:24:49 THAT IS AN INTEGRITY ISSUE AND GOES FOR ALL CITY
09:24:49 COUNCILS.
09:24:50 WE ALL LIVE HERE.
09:24:52 WE ARE UP UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.
09:24:56 SO DON'T DIVIDE THIS CITY IF YOU SAY YOU ARE TRYING TO
09:24:57 UNITE US.
09:24:58 THANK YOU.
09:24:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:25:02 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:25:05 YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND, MISS LEWIS.
09:25:05 >> I DID.
09:25:08 EYE NAME IS YVETTE LEWIS AND I AM A RESIDENT OF EAST
09:25:12 TAMPA AND I ALSO STAND BEFORE YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF
09:25:16 THE NAACP, THE OLDEST, THE LARGEST, THE BOLDEST, THE
09:25:19 BADDEST ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA.
09:25:25 LISTEN, WE ARE HERE IN THE NAACP.
09:25:28 WE ADVOCATE AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT'S GOING
09:25:29 ON.
09:25:34 OUR OFFICE HAS RECEIVED SELF-COMPLAINTS AND SEVERAL
09:25:38 CONCERNS REGARDING EAST TAMPA CAC.
09:25:41 IT IS UP TO US TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND ADDRESS
09:25:43 THOSE COMPLAINTS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
09:25:47 WE ARE NOT HERE TO TARGET ANYBODY OR ANY PERSON, ANY
09:25:48 ORGANIZATION OR ANYTHING.
09:25:52 WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE.
09:25:54 THAT IS WHAT WE DO.
09:25:59 I AM ASKING ALL OF Y'ALL UP THERE TO SIT WITH US AND
09:26:03 WORK WITH US -- LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
09:26:05 IS BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
09:26:10 EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN LEFT BEHIND SO MANY TIMES.
09:26:12 IT IS -- WE ARE TIRED.
09:26:16 WE ARE CONSTANTLY COMING DOWN HERE EVERY THURSDAY
09:26:21 BEGGING AND BEGGING FOR Y'ALL TO LISTEN TO US.
09:26:22 OKAY.
09:26:26 SO TIME -- THE TIME HAS COME FOR CHANGE.
09:26:27 WE ARE TIRED.
09:26:31 I AM TIRED OF THE COMPLAINTS COMING IN TO OUR OFFICE.
09:26:33 SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
09:26:37 AND MAKE SOME CHANGES SOON.
09:26:41 ONE THING THAT IS GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, YOU HAVE GOT
09:26:49 TO STOP THE GENTRIFICATION/WHITE-TRIFICATION.
09:26:50 KEEP OUR COMMUNITY WHOLE.
09:26:53 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ALL OF THIS STUFF HERE.
09:26:57 WE ASK -- WE HAVE A VOICE.
09:27:00 STOP FORCE-FEEDING US WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR US.
09:27:01 COME OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND LET'S HAVE A
09:27:02 CONVERSATION.
09:27:06 COME TO A NAACP MEETING AND LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION.
09:27:12 COME TO THE NAACP OFFICE AND LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION.
09:27:14 WE HAVE TO HAVE A DECENT CONVERSATION NOW, AND LET'S
09:27:20 WORK TOGETHER, OR I BRING THE STATE AND THE NATIONAL IN
09:27:23 HERE, AND WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
09:27:27 AND I PROMISE YOU, IT AIN'T GOING TO BE PRETTY IF THEY
09:27:27 COME.
09:27:29 I AM JUST SAYING.
09:27:30 LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER.
09:27:32 BECAUSE WE CAN DO THIS.
09:27:34 I KNOW WE CAN.
09:27:39 I HAVE FAITH IN ALL OF YOU ALL.
09:27:41 SCYTHE THANK YOU.
09:27:44 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:27:45 PINEY BURTON.
09:27:51 A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THE OTHER NIGHT TO HAVE IN OUR
09:27:54 CITY ATTORNEY BENJAMIN CRUMP.
09:27:59 JUST WROTE A BOOK.
09:28:02 I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WROTE THE BOOK BASED ON THE
09:28:02 CONVERSATION.
09:28:09 THE TITLE OF THE BOOK WAS "OPEN SEASON, LEGALIZE
09:28:12 GENOCIDE OF COLORED PEOPLE."
09:28:16 IT TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS WHOLE SYSTEM -- HE IS ONLY 50
09:28:19 YEARS OLD SO HE COULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT 100 YEARS
09:28:19 AGO.
09:28:23 HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE SEES MOVING FORWARD OF HOW
09:28:27 OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW BLACK PEOPLE, COLORED PEOPLE,
09:28:31 HAVE BEEN CAUGHT UP IN A SYSTEM OF GENOCIDE.
09:28:38 HOW OUR COMMUNITIES ARE BEING GENTRIFIED WITH EVERYBODY
09:28:38 WATCHING.
09:28:45 AND HOW IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOW THIS IS THE PART I
09:28:49 FEEL IN, HOW EAST TAMPA UNDER THE CRA, UNDER THE
09:28:51 MANAGEMENT OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM THERE IS LEADING TO
09:28:53 MAKE SURE THAT HAPPEN.
09:28:58 HOUSES IN THAT COMMUNITY -- I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE A
09:29:03 15,000, 10,000 DOWNPAYMENT, WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE ARE
09:29:04 BEING FORCED OUT.
09:29:06 THERE IS NO GENERATIONAL GROWTH INSIDE OF OUR
09:29:07 COMMUNITY.
09:29:11 RIGHT NOW ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK, 26 PROPERTIES THAT
09:29:14 THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE AWAY TO THEIR
09:29:15 FRIENDS AND BUDDIES.
09:29:17 WHO CAN TAKE THEM ON A TRIP.
09:29:23 WHO CAN BUY THEM A LUNCH UNTIL ALL OF THAT IS BEING
09:29:24 EXPOSED.
09:29:28 77 PROPERTIES OF BLACK FOLKS WHO WORKED HARD NOW IS FOR
09:29:31 DEMOLITION, TO BE TRANSFERRED OUT OF OUR HANDS, OUT OF
09:29:37 OUR COMMUNITY TO BE GIVEN TO WHOM, TO DEVELOPERS.
09:29:42 AND IF YOU ALL -- I THANK GOD I AM NOT NAACP PRESIDENT
09:29:45 BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO COME WITH THAT KIND OF -- I AM
09:29:46 NOT THE BISHOP.
09:29:46 NO.
09:29:51 MY JOB IS TO AGITATE THE COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN SEE WHO
09:29:52 YOU ARE.
09:29:53 WHO YOU ARE.
09:29:55 YOU REPRESENT US.
09:29:59 ALL OF YOU ARE DEMOCRATS.
09:30:06 OF YOU NEED VOTES, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING A --
09:30:09 TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT 1% OF THE BLACK VOTE THAT YOU
09:30:12 ALWAYS NEED, THE 1% OF BLACK VOTE THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE
09:30:15 TIME TO TALK WITH US AND TO TAKE PICTURES WITH THE
09:30:16 BABIES.
09:30:16 NO MORE.
09:30:18 NINE MONTHS YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE.
09:30:22 GIVE YOURSELF AN HONEST GRADE.
09:30:25 YOU HAVE BEEN HERE TWO SEMESTERS, BUT YET YOU STILL
09:30:29 WANT TO HOLD UP A CAC BOARD THAT DO NOT WORK FROM THE
09:30:32 BOTTOM OUT BUT FROM THE TOP DOWN.
09:30:33 WE ARE GROWN FOLKS.
09:30:36 WE ARE NOT CHILDREN.
09:30:37 WE ARE GROWN PEOPLE.
09:30:39 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PASS ON TO THE
09:30:44 NEXT GENERATION AND AS IT STANDS NOW, ALL WE CAN SAY IS
09:30:46 ONCE UPON A TIME.
09:30:50 ONCE UPON A TIME.
09:30:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:30:53 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:30:57 >> GOOD MORNING, BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY AGAIN.
09:31:00 I'M HERE REPRESENTING MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF EAST
09:31:03 TAMPA, QUITE A FEW OF ARE HERE THIS MORNING.
09:31:05 THE OTHERS COULDN'T COME BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING A
09:31:10 HOLIDAY -- A CHRISTMAS AT THE FAIR OAKS CENTER, BUT THE
09:31:13 MESSAGE IS STILL LOUD AND CLEAR THAT YOU ALL HAVE
09:31:13 MONEY.
09:31:17 THE MAYOR HAS MONEY, DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.
09:31:20 I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT.
09:31:21 THE CRA HAS MONEY.
09:31:25 THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY TO REMODEL THE FAIR OAKS CENTER.
09:31:27 WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU DO THAT.
09:31:31 YOU HAVE ENGINEERS THAT ARE ON STAFF.
09:31:33 THAT ARE ALREADY BEING PAID.
09:31:35 THEY CAN GO OUT LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS SEE WHAT WE NEED
09:31:38 TO HAVE DONE THERE I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY GO ON
09:31:41 RECORD SINCE MY NAME WAS PUBLICLY PUT IN A NEWSPAPER
09:31:44 THAT I HAVE NOT BULLIED ANYONE.
09:31:51 NOT ONE PERSON CAN -- MISS NATASHA GOODLY BRING FORTH
09:31:53 TO YOU AND SAY THAT I BULLIED.
09:31:57 BUT IF YOU READ MY BIO, IT SAID I AM A NATIVE.
09:31:59 I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.
09:32:00 I LOVE MY COMMUNITY.
09:32:04 SO IT IS MY DUTY TO SPEAK UP WHEN WE ARE NOT GETTING
09:32:06 OUR FAIR SHARE.
09:32:10 IT IS MY DUTY TO SPEAK UP WHEN PEOPLE ARE BEING HUNG.
09:32:15 SO THE NAME-CALLING AND IT IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL.
09:32:17 IT IS NOT EVEN SOMETHING THAT I WOULD THINK SOMEONE
09:32:22 THAT WOULD BE RUNNING A CRA THAT HAS MILLIONS OF
09:32:25 DOLLARS WOULD SAY, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO
09:32:28 BE ADDRESSED BY THIS COUNCIL, HOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE
09:32:32 RUNNING ORGANIZATION THAT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO THE
09:32:32 PEOPLE.
09:32:35 SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW I AM NOT
09:32:36 RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
09:32:39 SO I AM NO ONE'S OPPONENT.
09:32:42 I DON'T HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OF RUNNING.
09:32:43 I RUN A CHURCH.
09:32:46 I'M A SENIOR MEMBER OF THE TRINITY AND FAITH MINISTRY.
09:32:48 I AM THEIR PASTOR.
09:32:49 MANY OF MY MEMBERS ARE HERE.
09:32:52 SO WE NEED TO GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
09:32:55 THE NAME-CALLING WILL NOT TAKE THE FOCUS OFF WHAT IS
09:32:57 NOT BEING DONE IN EAST TAMPA.
09:33:01 THAT CENTER WAS PROMISED MONIES TEN YEARS AGO.
09:33:05 SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING, DO WHAT WAS PROMISED TO THE
09:33:07 CITIZENS TEN YEARS AGO.
09:33:11 THEN MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOWARD HEALING, PEACE, AND LOVE
09:33:12 IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:33:19 SO WHEN PEOPLE COME FORTH AND GO THINK A TWO MINUTE IN
09:33:22 THE PAPER WILL STOP COMING DOWN HERE, STOP SPEAKING
09:33:25 OUT, THEY ARE WASTING OUR TIME.
09:33:29 OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD AND IT WILL BE HEARD LOUD.
09:33:31 AND I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL THAT
09:33:33 IT IS A NEW DAY AT THIS COUNCIL.
09:33:40 AND I THANK COUNCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA FOR COMING AND
09:33:43 TELLING YOU ONCE AGAIN WHAT YOUR ROLE ARE AND WHAT YOUR
09:33:45 ORGANIZATIONS WAS PUT IN PLACE FOR.
09:33:45 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:33:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:33:51 NEXT.
09:33:52 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:33:55 HI, MY NAME IS SAM SMITH, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE I
09:33:59 GUESS A HARD TRANSITION BACK TO THE HERMAN MASSEY PARK
09:34:01 WHICH SEEMS LESS IMPORTANT NOW.
09:34:07 BUT GOING FROM THAT, I AM PROBABLY AN EXAMPLE OF --
09:34:10 WHAT A LOT OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
09:34:13 SOON TO BE EMPTY-NESTERS.
09:34:15 WE JUST MOVED HERE AFTER LIVING 20 YEARS IN LUTZ
09:34:16 RAISING OUR KITS.
09:34:20 CAME DOWN HERE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS -- OUR KIDS.
09:34:23 CAME DOWN HERE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AGO.
09:34:24 I HAVE A DOG.
09:34:25 I HAVE SEEN HERMAN MASSEY.
09:34:27 HAS SEEN WHAT IT IS.
09:34:30 AND I WAS INTRODUCED TO WHAT ITS POTENTIAL IS BECOMING.
09:34:34 I HAVE DONE AS MUCH RESEARCH AS I COULD.
09:34:38 I AM ALSO PROBABLY THE NEWEST DRANA MEMBER.
09:34:42 I MET SOMEONE ON A DOG WALK THAT SAID I COULD JOIN.
09:34:44 I HAVE SEEN THEIR POINTS OF VIEW AND I HAVE SEEN A
09:34:45 NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
09:34:47 WHAT -- IT SEEMS TO ME THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY EAGER TO
09:34:50 GET THIS PARK REDONE BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN
09:34:55 DONE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS BUT WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE
09:34:57 MAJOR CONSTRUCTION OF A HOTEL BUILT NEXT DOOR.
09:35:01 MAYBE THAT WASN'T IN EVERYONE'S FINAL PLANS TWO OR
09:35:01 THREE YEARS AGO.
09:35:04 WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT PARK.
09:35:07 SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THE HALTING AND MAKING SENSE OF
09:35:10 WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO BE GOING ON.
09:35:12 THERE IS -- YOU KNOW, THE -- THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
09:35:15 OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY AND THEIR PERSPECTIVE PLANS
09:35:18 CAME TO OUR HOMEOWNERS MEETING.
09:35:21 I LIVE ON FRANKLIN STREET IN A BUILDING AND SAID WHAT
09:35:22 THEY ARE GOING TO DO.
09:35:24 IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE USING --
09:35:27 MAKING PART OF THE PUBLIC LAND PRIVATE, THEY ARE SIMPLY
09:35:28 GOING TO BE SHARING THE SPACE.
09:35:34 AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE A FULL-TIME TENANT RIGHT NEXT DOOR
09:35:38 WHERE REASON TO KEEP THAT AREA CLEAN, IT MIGHT STAY
09:35:38 CLEAN.
09:35:40 RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST A TOILET.
09:35:43 A TOILET FOR DOGS AND ANYBODY PASSING BY.
09:35:46 NOBODY CLEANS UP AFTER IT BECAUSE NOBODY IS REALLY
09:35:46 WATCHING.
09:35:49 I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE
09:35:52 JUST BECAUSE IT IS MADE PRETTY AGAIN FOR FEW YEARS.
09:35:55 WILL IT KIND OF END UP WHERE IT WAS.
09:35:57 WAS CLEARLY PRETTY AT SOME POINT.
09:36:00 SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
09:36:04 THERE ARE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF PARKS THAT ARE PUBLIC
09:36:07 WITH SOME PRIVATE USE, MAYBE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT
09:36:09 IT DOES EXIST.
09:36:13 IT EXISTS WITH FOUR GREEN FIELDS AT CURTIS HIXON.
09:36:18 IT DOES EXIST AT THE SALE BY THE CONVENTION CENTER.
09:36:20 MY THOUGHT PUT A HALT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CLEAR.
09:36:23 IT IS NOT HALTING ALL YEARS OF PROGRESS, JUST MAKING
09:36:26 SURE THAT IT IS GOING TO BE A SMOOTH OF TRANSITION AS
09:36:29 POSSIBLE AND THE BEST USE FOR ONE WILL.
09:36:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:36:33 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:36:39 >> HI, GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS KARLA SEVEDRA, I LIVE
09:36:40 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
09:36:42 MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN THERE JUST UNDER THREE
09:36:43 YEARS.
09:36:47 I AM A MEMBER OF DRANA, AND THEY SENT AN E-MAIL REQUEST
09:36:49 ASKING US TO ANSWER THREE BRIEF QUESTIONS REGARDING
09:36:54 THIS HERMAN MASSEY PARK, AND DO WE SUPPORT THE PUBLIC
09:36:56 SPACE FOR PRIVATE USE.
09:36:58 AND MY RESPONSE IN THIS CASE IS, NO.
09:37:02 AND I WILL SUPPORT THAT BY GIVING AN EXAMPLE OF, THERE
09:37:05 ARE MANY INSTANCES WHERE PUBLIC PROPERTY CAN BE USED
09:37:06 FOR A PRIVATE USE.
09:37:10 THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF TAMPA RENTS CITY PROPERTY FOR
09:37:12 THEIR NONPROFIT PURPOSE.
09:37:14 THAT LEASE WAS JUST RECENTLY RENEWED.
09:37:18 THERE ARE RESTAURANTS AND CLUBHOUSES OF THE THREE CITY
09:37:24 GOLF COURSES, ROGERS PARK, ROCKY POINT AND BABES
09:37:26 SEHARIS.
09:37:28 AND A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION IS SUPPORTING A PUBLIC
09:37:29 PURPOSE.
09:37:31 THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE IS RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
09:37:35 THE CITY FATHERS BELIEVED THAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND
09:37:39 NATIONAL EXPOSURE SERVED A DEFINITE PUBLIC PURPOSE TO
09:37:40 OUR COMMUNITY.
09:37:43 IN THIS INSTANCE, MANY CITIZENS DISAGREED WITH THE CITY
09:37:47 FATHERS, BUT IN THE END, THE COURTS UPHELD THE PUBLIC
09:37:48 PROPERTY.
09:37:52 IT CAN BE USED FOR PRIVATE USE IF IT FURTHERS A PUBLIC
09:37:52 INTEREST.
09:37:55 LOOK AT THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE AVIATION AUTHORITY,
09:37:56 FOR EXAMPLE.
09:38:00 IN THIS CASE, THE ONLY REASON THE OWNER OF THE ALLEN
09:38:06 BUILDING WANTS TO USE 20% OF A PUBLIC GREEN, PUBLIC
09:38:08 PARK TO MAKE THEIR RO I WORK FOR THE PROJECT UNLESS A
09:38:11 REASONABLE PUBLIC PURPOSE CAN BE DEMONSTRATED.
09:38:14 I URGE THE CITY NOT TO GIVE UP PUBLIC LAND FOR STRICTLY
09:38:15 A PRIVATE USE.
09:38:18 I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
09:38:21 I AM NOT AGAINST A RESTAURANT BEING IN THAT BUILDING.
09:38:22 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A RESTAURANT THERE.
09:38:25 WE NEED RESTAURANTS IN OUR AREA.
09:38:28 BUT AS LONG AS THE FOOTPRINT REMAINS A RESTAURANT, I
09:38:30 WILL BE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT.
09:38:32 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:38:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:38:39 NEXT PLEASE.
09:38:40 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:38:46 MY NAME IS KRIS FEN BRAGER.
09:38:49 I LIVE ON NORTH FRANKLIN.
09:38:51 A NEIGHBOR OF MASSEY PARK FOR SIX YEARS.
09:38:53 MY ONLY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE SAFETY OF THE
09:38:55 NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WOMAN THAT WALKS BY THIS PARK EVERY
09:38:56 DAY.
09:38:58 I SAW A DRUG DEAL TWO DAYS AGO.
09:39:00 A HOT BED OF CRIMINAL AND DRUG ACTIVITY FOR YEARS.
09:39:03 THAT IS WHY THEY TOOK ALL OF THE SEATING OUT.
09:39:05 I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPER.
09:39:08 AND I'M HERE -- I HAVE NO PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
09:39:12 THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE BUILDING OR ANYBODY INVOLVED IN
09:39:15 THIS PROJECT, BUT I DO SERVE THAT IT WILL SERVE THE
09:39:18 PUBLIC PURPOSE TO KEEP THE PARK SAFE.
09:39:19 A SMALL SLIVER OF LAND.
09:39:22 THEY ARE ONLY ASKING FOR A TINY, TINY PORTION OF THE
09:39:24 PARK TO USE FOR SOME SEATING.
09:39:27 IF WE LEAVE IT A STAGNANT PARK, IT WILL JUST REVERT
09:39:30 BACK TO A DRUG HOTBED WHICH IT STILL -- KIND OF
09:39:32 CREEPING BACK IN THAT DIRECTION.
09:39:34 THEY TOOK ALL THE SEATING OUT.
09:39:37 WE WERE CALLING THE POLICE ON A DAILY BASIS WHERE SO
09:39:39 MANY PEOPLE PASSED OUT IN THE PARK.
09:39:43 MY NEIGHBOR WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN THAT PARK ON
09:39:45 CHRISTMAS MORNING -- YES, CHRISTMAS MORNING FIVE YEARS
09:39:49 AGO BY A MAN MENTALLY UNSTABLE AND PROBABLY ON DRUGS.
09:39:52 SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY DEVELOP THAT BUILDING.
09:39:56 IF WE LEAVE AN ABANDONED BUILDING DOWNTOWN, IT IS JUST
09:39:57 GOING TO FEEDBACK INTO IT.
09:40:01 SO WE NEED -- WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS OWNERS,
09:40:04 WHICH, IN TURN, WILL SUPPORT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE AND
09:40:06 SAFETY IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR EVERYBODY THAT LIVES
09:40:06 DOWNTOWN.
09:40:09 THANK YOU.
09:40:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:40:12 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:40:15 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:40:17 JAMES OF THE SMALL BUSINESS COALITION.
09:40:21 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PASTOR FOR REMEMBERING THE
09:40:23 VETERANS IN OUR PRAYERS.
09:40:23 IS AWESOME.
09:40:26 COME BEFORE TO YOU PLEASE KEEP NEWS MIND AS YOU
09:40:29 CONTINUE TO GROW YOUR POSITIVE IMPACT ON HILLSBOROUGH
09:40:30 COUNTY.
09:40:35 THE VETERANS AND THE SERVICE OF DISABLED VETERANS ARE
09:40:38 MADE UP OF AFRICAN AMERICAN-AMERICAN,
09:40:42 HISPANIC-AMERICAN, NATIVE-AMERICAN, ALL THESE DIFFERENT
09:40:44 MINORITY GROUPS THAT WILL HELP YOU BUILD THIS COMMUNITY
09:40:46 IN A BETTER, POSITIVE LIGHT.
09:40:49 AND WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THIS IN MIND.
09:40:50 AND PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
09:40:53 AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, LET US KNOW.
09:40:54 WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU.
09:40:56 THANK YOU.
09:40:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:41:04 NEXT PLEASE.
09:41:07 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, JOE ROBERSON HERE TO
09:41:11 SPEAK ON ITEM 6, 8 AND 11.
09:41:13 AND THAT AIN'T THE LOTTO, MAN.
09:41:17 LISTEN, LET'S START EASEMENT FIRST, 11.
09:41:21 WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE WEST TAMPA -- BUT KEEP THAT ON
09:41:25 THAT SIDE RIVER CRA BOARD, WHOO, LORD HAVE MERCY IT'S
09:41:26 HOT.
09:41:27 A LOT GOING ON OVER THERE.
09:41:29 I AM STAYING OUT OF IT RIGHT NOW.
09:41:32 WE ARE LOOKING AT WEST TAMPA TRYING TO HELP KEEP PEOPLE
09:41:32 IN THE HOUSE.
09:41:35 SO WE ASKED FOR APPROVAL OF THIS MONEY TO HELP
09:41:39 FACILITATE AND MATCH THE MONEY THE CITY HAS BUT INSIDE
09:41:41 OUR MONEY AND OUTSIDE A LITTLE MONEY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW
09:41:44 ABOUT, ABOUT 20 HOMES IN WEST TAMPA TO KEEP PEOPLE IN
09:41:45 THE HOMES.
09:41:48 TO KEEP THE SENIORS IN THE HOMES SO WE DON'T HAVE IN
09:41:50 GENTRIFICATION GOING ON.
09:41:50 NUMBER 11.
09:41:53 WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU APPROVE THAT BY THE COMMITTEE AT
09:41:56 WEST TAMPA CRA.
09:41:57 TO APPROVE THAT.
09:42:03 NOW WE GO TO NUMBER 6, 6 IS THE ONE DEALING WITH THE
09:42:04 ISSUES.
09:42:06 I AM GOING TO WAIT AND HEAR STAFF.
09:42:08 I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WOULD PUT THE PUBLIC UP FRONT, BUT
09:42:09 THAT IS FINE.
09:42:12 I THINK YOU CHANGED THAT AND THE AGENDA DIDN'T SAY THAT
09:42:13 AND I WAS A LITTLE LATE.
09:42:17 I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY BEFORE I SAY THAT.
09:42:20 THE FINAL ITEM THAT BROUGHT ME HERE TODAY.
09:42:21 NUMBER 8.
09:42:25 LISTEN, I HAVE BEEN AROUND HERE SINCE BENEFICIAL WAS AN
09:42:29 ISLAND CALLED HARBOR ISLAND ON ONE SIDE OF THE
09:42:29 WOODBRIDGE.
09:42:35 MAN, I HAVE WITHIN UP AND DOWN THE CRA, THE CDBG, ONE
09:42:40 OF THE OLDEST PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS
09:42:41 HELP CREATE A LOT OF THEM.
09:42:44 WE HAD BAD TIMES WITH THE WAY THE STRUCTURE.
09:42:48 THE NEW MAYOR HAS COME IN AND SAY THERE IS AN
09:42:49 OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THAT.
09:42:52 DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT OF THE BATH WATER WITH THAT
09:42:52 DEAL.
09:42:54 DON'T GO ALL THE WAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WAY.
09:42:57 I THINK A PERSON DEDICATED TO THE CRA IS WHAT WE NEED
09:42:58 RIGHT NOW.
09:42:59 WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
09:43:01 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD THAT IN 30 YEARS.
09:43:04 THAT IS WHY EAST TAMPA ALL MESSED UP.
09:43:07 BECAUSE THE MAN WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF IT, HE DIDN'T
09:43:10 REALLY CARE ABOUT EAST TAMPA, HE CARED MORE ABOUT THE
09:43:11 DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
09:43:13 NOW HE IS GONE.
09:43:15 THE MAYOR SAID PUT SOMETHING THERE FOR THE CRA AND ONLY
09:43:16 THE CRA.
09:43:18 AND WE WILL CUT THE CHECK.
09:43:20 WE WILL USE SOME OF YOUR MONEY BECAUSE Y'ALL DON'T HAVE
09:43:23 A MECHANISM TO DO IT THE SAME WAY YOUR STAFF.
09:43:26 HOW ARE YOU PAYING STAFF -- I DON'T THINK YOU WRITE
09:43:27 CHECKS OUT THE BUDGET YOU HAVE.
09:43:31 I BET THE MONEY COMES OUT OF THE CITY COFFERS BY WAY OF
09:43:35 THE CHECKS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA DON'T SAY CRA ON IT.
09:43:37 Y'ALL DON'T HAVE NO BANK ACCOUNT.
09:43:39 I AM SAYING DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH
09:43:39 WATER.
09:43:42 LET'S BE REASONABLE.
09:43:43 THE HOLIDAY SPIRIT.
09:43:50 FELIZ NAVIDAD, HAPPY HANUKKAH, ALL OF THAT.
09:43:51 DON'T GET ME STARTED.
09:43:53 I COME DOWN HERE -- WENT ALL -- YOU DID THE SAME THING
09:43:54 FOR THE STATE.
09:43:56 I AM DOING THE SAME THING FOR THE CRA.
09:43:59 SO LET'S TRY TO COMPROMISE ON THAT.
09:44:01 LET'S TRY THIS THING OUT THAT THE MAYOR IS TALKING
09:44:03 ABOUT AND LET'S MOVE ON.
09:44:06 IF Y'ALL KEEP DRAGGING IT ON, YOU WILL DRAG YOURSELF
09:44:09 OUT OF OFFICE.
09:44:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MERRY CHRISTMAS, MR. ROBERSON.
09:44:17 >> GOOD MORNING, I AM SCOTT TANGLE, THE BOARD PRESIDENT
09:44:19 OF THE RESIDENCES OF FRANKLIN STREET.
09:44:22 I WANT TO QUICKLY SUPPORT -- MY PERSONAL SUPPORT OF THE
09:44:25 USE OF PUBLIC SPACE FOR A PRIVATE RESTAURANT.
09:44:29 MY INITIAL KNEE-JERK REACTION WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE
09:44:33 PROPOSAL WAS TO REJECT IT.
09:44:36 AS A RESIDENT OF FRANKLIN STREET, I WAS EXTREMELY
09:44:40 EXCITED FOR THIS PARK PROJECT TO GET UNDER WAY.
09:44:43 WITH THAT BEING SAID AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID
09:44:46 TODAY, NOTHING THAT WILL STOP THE PARK FROM REGRESSING
09:44:48 IN THE FUTURE IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING KEEPING IT
09:44:52 ACTIVE AT ALL TIMES AND USING THAT AREA AS A RESTAURANT
09:44:55 SPACE OR A PORTION, A SLIVER I SHOULD SAY WILL KEEP IT
09:44:58 ACTIVE AND KEEP OUT SOME OF THE BLIGHT.
09:45:01 WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A BOARD VOTE ON THIS MATTER.
09:45:04 I AM NOT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.
09:45:06 BUT WE DID HOLD A MEETING ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THE
09:45:10 OVERWHELMING -- IT WAS A MEETING THAT WAS UNUSUALLY
09:45:12 ACTIVE.
09:45:14 WE HAD QUITE A FEW MEMBERS THERE.
09:45:17 AND THE OVERWHELMING SENTIMENT OF THOSE WHO CAME WAS IN
09:45:19 FAVOR OF THE PARK.
09:45:22 WE DO HAVE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN VOICED A NUMBER
09:45:23 OF TIMES TODAY.
09:45:25 WE DO NOT WANT THE PARK TO BE DELAYED ANOTHER THREE
09:45:26 YEARS.
09:45:28 I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE.
09:45:32 AND WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC SPACE IS
09:45:39 NOT OVERTAKEN AND USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE RESTAURANT
09:45:43 TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO DON'T
09:45:45 WANT TO ACTUALLY ATTEND THE RESTAURANT WOULD BE
09:45:47 UNWELCOMED.
09:45:51 BUT OVERALL, I THINK WE ARE MASSIVELY IN SUPPORT OF THE
09:45:52 PROJECT.
09:45:53 THANK YOU.
09:45:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:45:56 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:45:57 >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS.
09:46:00 VICTOR DIMAIO.
09:46:03 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING RIGHT
09:46:06 NEXT TO THE BOSS, THE ALLEN BUILDING AS WE CALL IT.
09:46:09 WE HAVE BEEN TRYING -- WE -- WE ASKED FOR A SMALL
09:46:09 PAUSE.
09:46:14 I DON'T WANT TO REHASH WHY WE WEREN'T PART OF THE
09:46:17 ORIGINAL PLANNING PROCESS, BUT WE ARE NOW.
09:46:20 WE HAVE MET WITH -- WE HAVE MET -- WE HAVE BEEN VERY,
09:46:22 VERY OPEN WITH THE VOSS SES.
09:46:25 WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS A COUPLE -- WITH THE PROCESS.
09:46:27 WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS A COUPLE OF TIMES.
09:46:32 WE MET MIKA, MYSELF, RICK CALDERONI THE OWNER OF HULA
09:46:37 BAY AND THE GREEN IGUANA WHICH IS A GOOD OPERATOR.
09:46:41 WE AND WITH TO DO A MEDIUM-PRICED RESTAURANT.
09:46:42 NOT MUCH GOING ON.
09:46:44 THE RESTAURANTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.
09:46:46 WE WANT TO SERVE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK
09:46:47 IN THAT AREA.
09:46:50 I TALKED TO FRIENDS THAT WORK AT THE TIMES BUILDING A
09:46:53 BLOCK AWAY AND THEY SAY NOT ANYTHING FOR US TO EAT UP
09:46:54 IN THAT AREA.
09:46:56 THAT PART OF NORTH DOWNTOWN IS STARTING TO POP RIGHT
09:46:57 NOW.
09:47:00 HAVING A RESTAURANT THERE, LOOK, WE HAVE A NEW PROPOSAL
09:47:03 THAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW TO THE
09:47:04 MEMBERS YET.
09:47:06 WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE DRANA
09:47:08 GROUP TO SHOW THEM.
09:47:11 OUT OF THE HALF-ACRE WITH THE PARK, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
09:47:14 TO REDUCE WHAT LITTLE WE NEED DOWN TO 3,000 SQUARE FEET
09:47:16 AND 13% OF THE PARK.
09:47:21 THAT MEANS OVER 83% OF THE PARK IS GOING TO REMAIN, AS
09:47:23 FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED, EXACTLY THE SAME.
09:47:25 WE HAVE CUT OUT MORE AREA FOR THE -- FOR THE
09:47:28 NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE TO USE FOR WHAT THEIR INTENDED
09:47:31 PURPOSE WAS INITIALLY.
09:47:33 PARTS OF THE PARK THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SEATING
09:47:36 AND CHAIRS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RESTAURANT.
09:47:38 THEY ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
09:47:41 THE LATEST THING WE MET ON MONDAY, WE DOUBLED OUR
09:47:44 CAPACITY IN OUR REST ROOMS TO BE ABLE -- FOR PEOPLE USE
09:47:47 THE PARK WHICH WITHOUT THE RESTAURANT THERE WOULD BE NO
09:47:49 REST ROOMS AT THE PARK.
09:47:51 WITHOUT THE RESTAURANTS, 18 HOURS A DAY OF PEOPLE
09:47:54 WORKING IN THE PARK TO SERVICE PEOPLE COMING TO THE
09:47:55 PARK.
09:47:58 TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR PEOPLE WHO DO SUPPORT OUR
09:47:58 PROJECT.
09:48:02 WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SECURITY AND PEOPLE THERE
09:48:03 COULD CLEAN UP.
09:48:06 AND, PLUS, PAYING THE CITY A RENTAL AGREEMENT TO USE
09:48:09 THAT LITTLE PORTION OF PARK WILL PROVIDE INCOME FOR THE
09:48:12 CITY TO USE TO MAINTAIN THAT PARK, WHICH BEFORE IT
09:48:15 WOULD BE TOTALLY ON THE BURDEN OF THE TAXPAYERS.
09:48:17 WE PROVIDE A LOT OF AMENITIES.
09:48:20 I THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT AMENITY TO HAVE A LITTLE
09:48:23 PIECE OF THE PARK FOR A RESTAURANT THAT WOULD BE OPEN
09:48:26 FOR LUNCH AND DINNER AND MAYBE BREAKFAST IN THE FUTURE
09:48:26 FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
09:48:31 SO WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE -- AND MR.
09:48:36 ROSNER WILL COME LATER AND SAY ANOTHER OPEN PROCESS TO
09:48:39 TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE.
09:48:42 AND TAKING A STEP BACK AS THE COUNCIL SAID FOR FUTURE
09:48:43 GENERATIONS.
09:48:47 NOT TO HURT TO HAVE A FEW MONTHS DELAY IS ALL WE ARE
09:48:49 ASKING AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU VERY
09:48:49 MUCH.
09:48:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:48:53 NEXT.
09:48:55 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
09:48:58 MY NAME IS MALCA ISAAC.
09:48:59 I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
09:49:03 AND, OF COURSE, I WOULD LIKE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO --
09:49:10 FOR YOU TO CONSIDER HELPING US TO GET THE RESTAURANT.
09:49:14 WE HAVE MET WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, WITH THE
09:49:19 CITY, AND THEY ALL VOTED IN FAVOR OF US CONTINUING TO
09:49:24 TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND GET TOGETHER TO
09:49:27 REDESIGN IT SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THE RESTAURANT THERE.
09:49:32 AS YOU SEE, THE RESIDENTS ON FRANKLIN ARE SUPPORTING
09:49:33 IT.
09:49:37 AND WE WOULD REALLY IMPROVE EVERYTHING AND ADD TO
09:49:38 EVERYTHING.
09:49:40 THIS WILL BE A PLACE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:49:43 IT WILL BE A CASUAL PLACE WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE RIGHT
09:49:44 NOW.
09:49:48 THEY WILL BE -- THE TABLES WILL BE OPEN TO EVERYBODY.
09:49:52 WE WILL NOT RESTRICT IT JUST TO THE RESTAURANT USER.
09:49:55 THERE WILL BE BATHROOMS THERE.
09:49:58 THERE WILL BE SECURITY AND SAFETY IN THE SENSE THAT THE
09:50:02 PLACE WILL BE OPEN.
09:50:05 SOMETIMES AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND THERE WILL BE
09:50:06 CLEANUP.
09:50:08 WE WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE IT NICE FOR
09:50:12 THEM AND FOR -- AND FOR OURSELVES.
09:50:14 AND WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE, YOU KNOW.
09:50:19 I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE REASON WHY I HAVE NOT
09:50:21 PARTICIPATED IN THE PAST.
09:50:24 BUT THIS ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT MY FAULT.
09:50:28 BUT AT THE PRESENT TIME, WE ARE NOT GOING TO CAUSE THE
09:50:31 DELAY THAT'S SOME PEOPLE ARE LEGITIMATELY CONCERNED
09:50:32 ABOUT.
09:50:35 THERE WILL BE OTHER DELAYS SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO
09:50:36 START A HOTEL THERE.
09:50:41 AND I THINK THAT MR. ROSNER WILL SPEAK TO YOU LATER,
09:50:45 AND THERE IS A CERTAIN TIME FRAME FOR MEETING AND
09:50:49 REDESIGNING THAT WILL BE MUCH SHORTER THAN THE TWO OR
09:50:51 THREE YEARS THAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT.
09:50:55 AND I AM NOT ABLE AT THE PRESENT TIME TO MOVE THE
09:51:00 PROJECT UNTIL I HAVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PARK ISSUE,
09:51:04 BECAUSE THE ARCHITECT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO -- HOW TO
09:51:09 PROCEED UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THE
09:51:10 CITY.
09:51:15 BUT WE ARE READY TO MOVE REAL QUICKLY EVERYTHING -- ALL
09:51:18 THE PIECES ARE IN PLACE TO START TO MOVE AS SOON AS WE
09:51:19 RESOLVE IT.
09:51:24 AND I THINK THAT WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE AT THE MOST TWO
09:51:28 MEETINGS AND IN FEW MONTHS, WE WILL -- THE MATTER WILL
09:51:31 BE RESOLVED AND THE DELAY WILL BE RELATIVELY MINIMAL.
09:51:35 AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING TO ME.
09:51:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:43 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:51:46 >> GOOD MORNING AND MERRY CHRISTMAS.
09:51:47 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
09:51:50 SO I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH,
09:51:53 SO HELP ME GOD.
09:51:57 I AM THE REVEREND WILLIE G. DIXON, THE FOUNDER OF THE
09:51:59 ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY
09:52:03 OF TAMPA FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
09:52:09 AND MY BUSINESS ADDRESS 3411 NORTH 34TH STREET, SUITE
09:52:11 B, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:52:13 AND WITH OUR ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY-BASED
09:52:15 ORGANIZATION.
09:52:19 AND I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE THE OLDEST ORGANIZATION THAT
09:52:24 HAS BEEN IN CONTINGENT BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY OF
09:52:24 TAMPA.
09:52:28 AT THE AGE OF 88, I HAVE SEEN MANY THINGS TAKE PLACE IN
09:52:31 TAMPA.
09:52:35 SOME WERE GOOD AND SOME WERE BAD AND I HAVE BEEN
09:52:38 CONFRONTED BY SEVERAL CITIZENS OF SOME CONCERNS THAT
09:52:39 THEY HAVE.
09:52:43 YOU KNOW, IN DISTRICT FIVE, AT ONE TIME, IT WAS THE
09:52:49 MOST PROSPEROUS DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN
09:52:55 WELD WINN-DIXIE AND OTHER BUSINESSES, BUT SINCE THEN, I
09:52:58 HAVE SEEN SO MUCH HAPPEN IN THE NAME OF PROGRESS, AND I
09:53:02 AM TOLD THAT PROGRESS IS ANOTHER CODE WORD FOR
09:53:03 GENTRIFICATION.
09:53:08 I HAVE SEEN HOMES DESTROYED.
09:53:11 AND THERE ARE CASES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES
09:53:17 AND THEY PUT LIENS ON THEIR PROPERTY KNOWING THAT WITH
09:53:19 THE INCOME OF CITIZENS IN THAT AREA, THEY CAN NOT
09:53:24 AFFORD TO PAY THE LIENS THAT WERE PLACED AGAINST THOSE
09:53:24 PROPERTIES.
09:53:29 SO, THEREFORE, THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL -- I
09:53:32 WON'T SAY STEAL THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY WILL TAKE THE
09:53:38 PROPERTY, AND THEN -- AND WHAT DO THEY USE THOSE FOR.
09:53:41 PLACES LIKE THE WATER WORKS.
09:53:43 I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE ON THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
09:53:48 AND ON PALM AVENUE, WHICH WAS THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHICH
09:53:51 HAS BEEN DESTROYED AND WE SEE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS
09:53:53 THERE, WE LOOK AT THE ARENA THERE.
09:53:55 SO MANY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.
09:54:01 THINGS JUST DON'T HAPPEN BY MERE HAPPENSTANCE, SO I
09:54:04 PLAY IN THIS CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A REAL WORKSHOP.
09:54:08 I CAME TO ONE SOME MONTHS AGO, AND THE CITIZENS WERE
09:54:11 NOT ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
09:54:12 THEY WERE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
09:54:15 BUT YET OTHERS WERE -- HAD AN HOUR.
09:54:18 SO, THEREFORE, I KNOW MY TIME IS UP AND THEREFORE I
09:54:21 WILL GIVE EACH ONE OF YOU A COPY OF THIS TO LOOK AT IT
09:54:24 OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND GET BACK AND LET US HAVE A REAL
09:54:25 WORKSHOP.
09:54:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:34 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANTING TO SPEAK
09:54:35 BUT THIS WOMAN HERE?
09:54:38 THANK YOU, THE WOMAN SEATED THERE WILL BE OUR LAST
09:54:42 SPEAKER.
09:54:42 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:54:48 MY NAME IS GLORIA JEAN ROYSTER, 400 EAST HARRISON
09:54:49 STREET.
09:54:53 I LIVE AT VISTA 400 WHICH IS A SENIOR PROPERTY THAT IS
09:54:56 ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
09:54:59 200 PLUS APARTMENTS THERE.
09:55:03 AND 90 TO 95% OF US ARE NOT DOG OWNERS.
09:55:08 VERY FEW OF US USE HERMAN MASSEY PARK AS DOG OWNERS.
09:55:11 I WANT TO SAY THAT A GOOD COMMUNITY IS AN INCLUSIVE
09:55:12 COMMUNITY.
09:55:16 HISTORICALLY THE SENIORS IN MY BUILDING HAVE NOT BEEN
09:55:22 INCLUDED IN THE DECISION MAKING, DEVELOPMENT, AND
09:55:23 REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN.
09:55:26 WE ARE IN THE FRINGE OF DOWNTOWN AND THAT IS PRETTY
09:55:29 MUCH HOW WE HAVE BEEN TREATED.
09:55:32 ON THE MATTER OF HERMAN MASSEY PARK, WE WANT TO MAKE
09:55:34 SURE THAT WE ARE INCLUDED.
09:55:39 THE CURRENT COMMUNITY DESIGN DOES ADVOCATE AND INCLUDE
09:55:44 PEOPLE WHO DO NOT OWN DOGS.
09:55:49 IT'S BEING SAID THAT THE PARK WON'T REMAIN PRETTY IF WE
09:55:52 CAN'T -- BUT WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY SAYING IS THAT WE
09:55:55 CAN'T BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PARK, BUT A LOT OF THINGS
09:56:05 THAT HAVE HAPPENED WERE BEFORE MIKE PAONESSA, MIKE
09:56:07 AVELOS AND MYSELF.
09:56:12 MIKE PAONESSA THAT ENGINEERED SEATING BE REMOVED FROM
09:56:14 THE PARK WHICH FOR A LONG TIME DRASTICALLY DECREASED
09:56:19 THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND THE MAJOR ACTIVITY OF THOSE
09:56:23 WHO HAPPEN TO BE HOMELESS, WHO HAPPEN TO INDULGE IN
09:56:27 CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHO RAN FROM ONE PART OF DOWNTOWN
09:56:29 AND SET UP SHOP.
09:56:31 WHEN MIKE HAD THOSE SEATS REMOVED, YOU KNOW, THEY TRIED
09:56:33 TO INTIMIDATE US.
09:56:36 BUT WE STOOD FIRM.
09:56:38 BUT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T
09:56:40 COME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY DON'T TALK TO US.
09:56:42 WE FOUGHT FOR THAT.
09:56:47 SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE GOOD STEWARDS OF HERMAN MASSEY
09:56:49 PARK ONCE IT IS REDESIGNED.
09:56:54 ALSO I WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 20%, 13% AS IT IS
09:57:00 RIGHT NOW, WE WILL EXCLUDE MY SENIOR NEIGHBORS AND I.
09:57:03 SATURDAY, I WAS -- I MET THE FAMILY THAT WAS INSIDE THE
09:57:06 BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK, 1005
09:57:09 NORTH FRANKLIN, AND THEY SAID THEY WERE FIXING IT UP
09:57:14 FOR LEASING PURPOSES AND POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE A BAR.
09:57:15 SO THERE WILL BE OTHER THINGS COMING INTO THE
09:57:18 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL ACTIVATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT
09:57:21 WILL HELP, THEN, TO SAFETY IN THE PARK.
09:57:24 NOT JUST THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL
09:57:25 ENCROACH ON OUR PARK.
09:57:28 I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SAVE OUR GREEN SPACE.
09:57:31 WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MY NEIGHBORS AND I BASED ON
09:57:35 CONVERSATION, NOT JUST GLORIA JEAN, WE ARE MORE
09:57:37 INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO USE THE PARK AND NOT HAVING
09:57:40 AN AFFORDABLE RESTAURANT BECAUSE WE WON'T BE EATING
09:57:43 THERE EVERY WEEK BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO.
09:57:46 FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT --
09:57:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GIVE YOU 15 SECONDS MORE.
09:57:51 >> 15 SECONDS IS ALL I NEED.
09:57:55 THERE IS A MAIN STREET MIDST THAT BUSINESS OWNERS ARE
09:57:59 EXPERTS, BUT THE FACT.
09:58:03 NOT ALL EXPERTISE TRANSLATE.
09:58:10 PLACING REVITALIZATION DECISIONS IN THE HANDS OF
09:58:13 MERCHANTS CAN BE A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
09:58:15 DOWNTOWN BELONGS TO EVERYONE.
09:58:15 THANK YOU.
09:58:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:58:23 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:58:26 MY NAME IS NOREEN COPELAND MILLER AND I LIVE IN EAST
09:58:27 TAMPA.
09:58:30 I'M HERE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, BUT I HAVE TO SAY
09:58:34 THIS MORNING TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL -- TO ALL THE
09:58:34 COUNCILMEN.
09:58:37 IT IS NOT EASY FOR A LOT OF US TO GET HERE IN THIS
09:58:40 BUILDING AND I AM SURE YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT I
09:58:44 WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE THAN ONE DESIGNATED SPOT FOR
09:58:47 HANDICAPPED FOLKS AT THIS CITY COUNCIL.
09:58:52 AT CITY HALL OUT FRONT, ONE DESIGNATED SPOT FOR
09:58:53 HANDICAP.
09:58:58 AND YOU CAN'T -- IT IS NOT HANDICAPPED ACCESS BE ON
09:59:00 KENNEDY FIRST OF ALL.
09:59:02 I MISSED THE FIRST HALF OF THE MEETING BUT I WILL WATCH
09:59:03 IT OVER.
09:59:04 TRYING TO PARK DOWN THE STREET.
09:59:07 CAME DOWN EARLY AND THAT WAS OUT BECAUSE ALL THE SPOTS
09:59:08 WERE TAKEN.
09:59:12 ALTHOUGH COULD YOU PARK AT A METER AND FREELY DO ALL
09:59:13 THOSE OTHER THINGS.
09:59:16 I AM TALKING ABOUT DESIGNATED SPOTS FOR HANDICAPPED
09:59:17 PEOPLE.
09:59:20 PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS WE COME HERE, IF YOU WOULD,
09:59:21 COUNCILMAN.
09:59:26 NOT FOR ONE OR TWO BUT THINK PUTTING YOURSELF IN
09:59:26 SOMEONE ELSE'S POSITION.
09:59:29 I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK ABOUT EAST TAMPA AND THE
09:59:30 CRA PARK.
09:59:33 BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE ANYMORE.
09:59:37 AND I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO TELL ME WHEN THE NEXT
09:59:38 MEETING IS.
09:59:41 BECAUSE I DO GO TO THE MEETINGS BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED
09:59:45 ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY COMMUNITY.
09:59:49 ESPECIALLY WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AND ALL THE OTHER
09:59:49 THINGS.
09:59:54 BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ASKING FOR
09:59:55 NUMBER 5.
09:59:58 AND I AM GOING TO SEE -- I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT IS
10:00:04 GOING TO GO ON AT JACKSON HEIGHTS PARK BECAUSE IT
10:00:07 CERTAINLY IS WARRANTED AND HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LONG
10:00:08 TIME.
10:00:12 IN THE BUDGET FOR LONG TIME.
10:00:14 NOTHING HAS HAPPENED AND THE COMMUNITY HAS NOT BEEN
10:00:16 ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FACILITY.
10:00:19 I AM GLAD I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT HERE THIS MORNING.
10:00:21 I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHEN THE NEXT EAST
10:00:24 TAMPA PARTNERSHIP MEETING IS SO I MAY BE ABLE TO
10:00:25 ATTEND.
10:00:26 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:00:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MADAM.
10:00:32 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS GIVEN THEIR
10:00:35 PUBLIC COMMENTS, THEIR OPINIONS, THOUGHTS AND IDEAS FOR
10:00:36 BEING HERE TODAY.
10:00:39 BOARD MEMBERS, WITHOUT OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
10:00:45 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 13 TO BE HEARD FIRST.
10:00:52 AND THEN ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 8 TO BE HEARD SECOND.
10:00:57 DO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:01:00 SEND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:01:03 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:01:04 SAY AYE.
10:01:05 OPPOSED.
10:01:06 THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS.
10:01:11 WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER 13 FIRST.
10:01:16 >> COUNCILMEMBERS, NEIL STRALO, SENIOR PLANNER.
10:01:19 APPRECIATE BEING WITH YOU TODAY.
10:01:21 TODAY IS A CONTINUED ITEM FROM THE LAST CRA MEETING IN
10:01:23 NOVEMBER.
10:01:26 THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO REVIEW
10:01:28 MATERIALS.
10:01:31 THIS PAST MONTH -- AND STAFF HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
10:01:33 MEET WITH SEVERAL OF YOU.
10:01:47 AND WE STAND SEEKING YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THE DOCUMENT.
10:01:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
10:01:49 PROCEED.
10:01:50 WHAT DO WE NEED FROM YOU?
10:01:51 WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US?
10:01:53 SORRY.
10:01:55 >> WE ARE SEEKING ACCEPTANCE OF THE VISION MASTER PLAN
10:02:02 DOCUMENT AS AN ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST NOVEMBER.
10:02:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:02:09 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THIS BOARD?
10:02:13 YES, PLEASE.
10:02:18 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
10:02:20 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:02:21 EXCUSE ME.
10:02:26 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:02:30 ANY OPPOSED?
10:02:33 MOTION PASSES.
10:02:33 >> THANK YOU.
10:02:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:02:51 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 8 IS NEXT.
10:02:53 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
10:02:57 GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF,
10:02:58 CITY OF TAMPA.
10:03:02 I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY MAKING SURE THAT ITEM 8 IS
10:03:04 CRYSTAL CLEAR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS
10:03:04 MORNING.
10:03:08 SO IF I COULD, I AM JUST GOING TO PUT -- ACTUALLY I
10:03:13 HAVE HIGHLIGHTED -- IF WE CAN USE THE OVERHEAD.
10:03:15 KIND OF TOOK THE LIBERTY OF COLOR CODING WHAT I
10:03:19 UNDERSTOOD WAS THE MOTION THAT LED US TO THIS MEETING
10:03:20 TODAY.
10:03:23 THE -- THE YELLOW IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, AND I WILL GIVE
10:03:26 YOU AN UPDATE ON IT IN A SECOND THAT WE WERE ASKED TO
10:03:29 PROCEED WITH THE HIRING OF THE CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
10:03:32 THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS.
10:03:37 THE AGREEMENT IS WHAT I WILL UPDATE YOU TODAY ON
10:03:40 RECOMMENDATION PROVIDING ANNUAL OVERSIGHT AND FEEDBACK
10:03:43 OF THAT DIRECTOR BY THE CRA, AND LASTLY ON THE BACK
10:03:48 PAGE, THERE WAS A DIRECT REQUEST ONCE THEY FOCUS THIS.
10:03:54 FOR THE CRA DIRECTOR WILL DIRECTLY REPORT TO THE MAYOR.
10:03:58 SO WITH THAT SAID, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FIRST IS
10:04:04 JUST PUT UP A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT WAS
10:04:08 DISCUSSED BOTH AT THE LAST MEETING AND THEN WITH SOME
10:04:12 OF YOU OFF LINE BETWEEN LAST MEETING AND NOW.
10:04:17 SO I DO HAVE A DRAFT FROM OUR HUMAN RESOURCES PERSONNEL
10:04:23 MANAGEMENT SECTION FOR A CRA DIRECTOR THAT I WOULD
10:04:26 LIKE TO CIRCULATE WITH YOU IMMEDIATELY TO GET
10:04:27 COLLABORATIVE APPROVAL.
10:04:31 ONCE THAT IS FINALIZED AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE A
10:04:36 RECRUITING FIRM ON DECK FOR A NATIONAL RECRUITING
10:04:39 OPPORTUNITY OR BEYOND NATIONAL, AND ONCE THAT WAS
10:04:43 FINALIZED AFTER YOUR FEEDBACK, WE WOULD GET THAT
10:04:43 POSTED.
10:04:45 ONCE THEY GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RECRUITMENT
10:04:50 PROCESS, WE WOULD ORGANIZE THOSE TALENT PROSPECTS FOR
10:04:51 THE BOARD FOR INDIVIDUAL REVIEW.
10:04:55 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHAT I HAVE SEEN BY BEST
10:05:00 PRACTICE IS THEY WILL GIVE YOU A BOOK AND AN
10:05:03 OPPORTUNITY TO RANK THEM IN SECTIONS.
10:05:06 I AM A FAN TO MAKE SURE THAT AS MANY FOLKS ARE INCLUDED
10:05:09 AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU MAY SOMEBODY IN THE THIRD
10:05:11 SECTION THAT HAS A BETTER FIT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:05:15 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AS MUCH INCLUSION AS
10:05:17 POSSIBLE WHEN YOU ARE REVIEWING THE LIST.
10:05:20 AND AS THE -- AS WE WORK WITH THE CRA BOARD TO FINALIZE
10:05:25 THAT DIRECTOR, MY NEXT SUGGESTION WOULD BE AS SOON AS
10:05:27 POSSIBLE TO HOST ANOTHER WORKSHOP WITH THAT DIRECTOR SO
10:05:31 THE CRA BOARD, THE PUBLIC, THE CACS, EVERYBODY CAN GET
10:05:36 ON THE SAME STRATEGIC PLAN AND MOVE EVERYTHING FORWARD
10:05:39 AND IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND MUCH NEEDED.
10:05:45 FURTHER TO THE DISCUSSION THE OVERNIGHT.
10:05:47 I AM BIG FAN OF MIDPOINTS.
10:05:49 I DON'T LIKE TO WAIT A YEAR.
10:05:53 A SIX-MONTH REVIEW PROCESS AND DO IT IN THIS FORM.
10:05:56 MAKE SURE THE CRA BOARD HAS INPUT, THE PUBLIC WAS
10:05:59 AVAILABLE FOR THAT KIND OF REVIEW, AND WE WOULD FOLLOW
10:06:03 THE NORMAL MERIT PROCESS FOR THE ONE-YEAR REVIEW AND
10:06:05 BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL SO
10:06:08 THAT WAS DONE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN SINCE THAT CRA
10:06:12 DIRECTOR WOULD BE A DIRECT REPORT IN THE PROCESS AND
10:06:20 FUNCTIONALITY OF THE BOARD.
10:06:25 OF THE EFFORT OF REPORTING TO THE MAYOR.
10:06:27 I WANT TO USE THIS AS A DISCUSSION OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
10:06:31 REPORTING OF THE CRA DIRECTOR.
10:06:33 OBVIOUSLY WE ALL REPORT TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:06:37 THAT IS THE NATURE OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
10:06:40 THE CRA BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ON THE RIGHT
10:06:40 HAND SIDE OF THAT.
10:06:43 THE MAYOR OBVIOUSLY IN HER POSITION IS THERE.
10:06:47 THE CRA DIRECTOR WILL FUNCTIONALLY REPORT TO THE CRA
10:06:50 BOARD AND THAT IS THAT SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT THAT WE
10:06:53 MUCH NEED THAT THE MAYOR OBVIOUSLY OFFER TO HIRE THAT
10:06:58 DIRECTOR AND BE EXCLUSIVE AND WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE
10:07:01 CRA BOARD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL USE THE HR
10:07:05 PROCESS THAT IS IN THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE INTERNAL,
10:07:09 IN-KIND FUNDING STREAMS OFF THIS SEEN THAT DON'T GET
10:07:13 COSTED OUT TO THE CRA PROCESS TO KEEP ALL THE MONEY
10:07:15 FLOWING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT WAY THAT
10:07:17 ORGANIZATIONAL ASPECT UNDER THE MAYOR AND
10:07:21 ADMINISTRATION WILL EXIST, BUT THERE WILL BE NO
10:07:24 PIPELINE BREAK BETWEEN THE CRA DIRECTOR FOR THE
10:07:31 ORGANIZATIONAL PART TO THE MAYOR AND NO BREAK IN
10:07:33 CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE DIRECTOR AND THE CRA BOARD.
10:07:36 WITH THAT I WILL TAKE FEEDBACK.
10:07:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:07:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:07:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU PUT YOUR DIAGRAM BACK
10:07:45 NEWSPAPER IS.
10:07:46 >> YES, SIR.
10:07:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH THIS DIAGRAM, HOW DOES IT RELATE
10:07:53 TO THE HIRING OF YOUR NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CZAR.
10:07:57 I THOUGHT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT -- IF ONE WAS HIRED WE
10:08:01 COULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS OF WHOM WOULD POSSIBLY BE
10:08:04 IN A POSITION WITH THE MAYOR, BUT THE MAYOR WENT AHEAD
10:08:12 AND HIRED A CZAR SO MY CONCERN WITH THIS CZAR -- I
10:08:16 DON'T KNOW MISS PULSE -- I READ SOME THINGS ABOUT HER
10:08:19 AND HE HAS A STELLAR BACKGROUND, BUT I DON'T SEE IN
10:08:22 THAT CAVEAT ABOUT BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES HOW SHE HAS
10:08:25 DEVELOPED AND TRANSFORMED THOSE TYPE OF COMMUNITIES.
10:08:27 THAT IS ONE CONCERN AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER TO
10:08:29 EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT.
10:08:31 HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER ABOUT
10:08:35 THAT BEFORE THIS BOARD MAKES OUR RECOMMENDATION TO GIVE
10:08:36 OUR SUPPORT OF THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
10:08:39 AGAIN, I HAVE READ HER REPORT AND I HAVE SEEN SOME
10:08:43 THINGS THAT I DON'T -- I DIDN'T SEE ANY THAT I WAS
10:08:44 CONCERNED WITH.
10:08:48 I WANT TO ADDRESS AND MAKE SURE WHOEVER -- THAT THIS
10:08:52 BOARD GIVES THE GO ON THAT, THAT SHE UNDERSTANDS THIS
10:08:53 IS A BIG COMPONENT OF OUR CITY NOW.
10:08:56 AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
10:09:03 HOW WILL THAT RELATE WITH THE ECONOMIC CZAR AND HOW
10:09:05 THAT IS.
10:09:09 >> SURE, I WILL RESPOND IN TWO SEPARATE PRONGS.
10:09:12 CAROL WAS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR TO BE PART OF THE
10:09:13 TRANSITION TEAM.
10:09:15 SHE WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE ORGANIZATION OF THE
10:09:21 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PORTION THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND
10:09:26 WORK FORCE ADVISORY AND SHE IS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN
10:09:29 THE MAYOR'S PLAN AND MET WITH A FEW OF YOU ON SPECIFIC
10:09:31 ITEMS THAT HAVE COME UP DURING THE CITY COUNCIL
10:09:34 PROCESS.
10:09:37 THE SECOND PART TO YOUR DIRECT QUESTION, BOARD MEMBER
10:09:41 GUDES, AS YOU KNOW AND AS YOU HAVE ASKED, YOU WANTED A
10:09:44 SEPARATION OF DUTIES BETWEEN THE CRA DIRECTOR AND THE
10:09:46 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ADMINISTRATOR.
10:09:48 SO THEY ARE ON THE SAME PLAIN IN THE ORGANIZATIONAL
10:09:52 CHART, REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR FROM AN
10:09:56 ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT BUT REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THE
10:09:59 CRA BOARD FROM FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT.
10:10:01 YOU HAVE THAT DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE CRA DIRECTOR TO
10:10:04 PROMOTE THE COMMUNITY'S AGENDA THROUGH THE PROCESS BACK
10:10:10 TO THE CRA BOARD, BUT WITH ALL THE HORSEPOWER AND
10:10:13 CAPABILITY OF CITY STAFF SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THESE
10:10:15 OBJECTIVES ACTUALLY GET DONE IN THE FIELD.
10:10:20 AND SO -- AND -- CAROL POST WOULD BE A DIRECT REPORT TO
10:10:21 9 MAYOR AS WELL.
10:10:24 LIKE ANY OTHER STAFF MEMBER, WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE
10:10:26 WORKING TOGETHER ON THE GLOBAL BENEFIT OF THE CITY OF
10:10:30 TAMPA.
10:10:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:10:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE'S --
10:10:40 [INAUDIBLE]
10:10:45 -- WE HAVE BEEN WRESTLING WITH THIS FOR A FEW MONTHS.
10:10:48 AND I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES.
10:10:52 AS A FORMER MEDIATOR, I GUESS THAT SORT OF COMES
10:10:53 NATURALLY.
10:10:56 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS THINKING ABOUT PERHAPS A
10:10:56 COMPROMISE.
10:11:01 AND THIS CAME UP LAST MONTH OR THE MONTH BEFORE, BUT I
10:11:02 AM GOING TO REITERATE IT.
10:11:09 MR. BENNETT, WE HAVE WRESTLED WITH THE ISSUE OF THE --
10:11:09 THE CONTRACT.
10:11:13 WE HAVE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CRA AND THE CITY.
10:11:16 AND MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN WORKING ON ANALYZING THAT AND
10:11:19 TWEAKING THAT AND DOING A GOOD JOB.
10:11:24 AND I WAS THINKING THAT PERHAPS THE COMPROMISE MIGHT BE
10:11:28 THAT AS PART OF THE CONTRACT AS A SEPARATE PROVISION IN
10:11:33 THE CONTRACT, THAT IF -- LET'S SAY -- LET'S SAY WE GET
10:11:34 INTO A SCENARIO.
10:11:36 I KNOW YOU ASKED A QUESTION.
10:11:37 WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO FIX.
10:11:40 IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
10:11:42 AND I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT
10:11:45 -- LOOK FORWARD A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
10:11:50 AND WHAT CONTROL WE WOULD HAVE UNDER THAT SCENARIO WHEN
10:11:52 THINGS MIGHT BE GOING A LITTLE SOUTH.
10:11:55 AND I AM NOT HOPING FOR THAT.
10:11:59 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR JOB TO LOOK OUT FOR THOSE --
10:12:01 THOSE EVENTUALITIES.
10:12:05 WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IF WE GET TO THE POINT WITH
10:12:11 THIS CRA WAS NOT HAPPY, AND WANTED TO MAKE -- MAKE A
10:12:13 REALLY STRONG STATEMENT.
10:12:17 AND THIS IS BASED UPON THE ASSUMPTION THAT -- THAT THIS
10:12:19 CHART IN FRONT OF US IS IN PLACE.
10:12:24 THAT -- THAT CRA DIRECTOR ANSWERS TO THE MAYOR.
10:12:29 BUT IF WE GOT TO THAT POINT WHERE WE WEREN'T HAPPY,
10:12:32 THAN WHAT I AM PROPOSING IS WITHIN THE CONTRACT WE
10:12:35 WOULD SPEAK TO -- IF WE GOT TO THAT POINT THE CRA VOTED
10:12:39 -- FIVE MEMBERS OF US VOTED AND WE SAID WE ARE NOT
10:12:41 HAPPY, AND BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HAPPY, WE ARE GOING TO
10:12:46 PUT THE CITY AND THAT DIRECTOR ON NOTICE FOR SIX
10:12:47 MONTHS.
10:12:51 OKAY.
10:12:54 CLEAN IT UP, FIX IT, WHATEVER THAT ISSUE IS.
10:12:56 SIX MONTHS COMES BACK.
10:12:56 WHAT HAPPENS?
10:12:58 WE ARE EITHER HAPPY OR NOT HAPPY.
10:13:01 IF ANOTHER VOTE COMES UP AT THAT SIX-MONTH PERIOD AND
10:13:05 SAYS WE ARE STILL NOT HAPPY, THEN UNDER THE CONTRACT WE
10:13:08 WOULD ASK THE MAYOR, WE WOULD DIRECT THE MAYOR TO
10:13:11 TERMINATE THAT POSITION -- TERMINATE THAT PERSON OR
10:13:13 REPLACE THAT PERSON AS DIRECTOR.
10:13:15 IT IS NOT WILLY-NILLY.
10:13:18 I KNOW YOU HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT -- YOU KNOW,
10:13:22 THAT IF THE BOARD JUST ONE DAY GOT A BUG UP OUR YOU
10:13:26 KNOW WHAT AND, YOU KNOW, WAS UNHAPPY, THAT PERSON COULD
10:13:29 BE OUT THE DOOR AND THAT DOESN'T CREATE FOR A LOT OF
10:13:32 STABILITY, AND I SORT OF AGREE WITH THAT.
10:13:35 BUT UNDER THIS PROCESS IT IS A LITTLE MORE METHODICAL.
10:13:38 ANYWAY, I THROW THAT OUT.
10:13:40 IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY, I
10:13:42 WILL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THEM.
10:13:46 BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD COMPROMISE AND DUE IT
10:13:48 THROUGH THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY WORKING TOGETHER BUT
10:13:52 A LITTLE MORE -- A LITTLE MORE METHODICAL, THANK YOU.
10:13:56 >> SIR, CAN I PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.
10:13:57 I THINK WE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
10:14:02 I DON'T WANT TO SAY CLEARLY THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
10:14:03 FIX ASSUMING THAT NOTHING IS BROKEN.
10:14:06 I THINK THE MAYOR'S OUTREACH TO THE BOARD BY MAKING THE
10:14:09 CRA DIRECTOR REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR
10:14:13 ORGANIZATIONALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY REPORT TO THE CRA
10:14:17 BOARD IS PROGRESS WHAT WE SEE IS A BETTER OUTCOME FOR
10:14:17 THE COMMUNITY.
10:14:19 THAT IS PIECE NUMBER ONE.
10:14:22 PIECE NUMBER TWO, WHAT I AM HEARING IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
10:14:25 FOR THE GOOD OF WHOEVER THE CRA BOARD AND WORKING WITH
10:14:29 THE CITY WOULD SELECT AS A DIRECTOR, WE ARE ASKING FOR
10:14:33 SOME SORT OF PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITY IN THE CONTRACT TO
10:14:35 ENSURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE VALUE OF WHAT WE
10:14:39 SELECTED COLLECTIVELY, AND WHO WE SELECTED COLLECTIVELY
10:14:42 TO GET THAT VAST OUTCOME FOR THE CITY, BUT AT THE SAME
10:14:44 TIME, IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE
10:14:47 THAT WE CAN GO INTO SOME PERFORMANCE-BASED REVIEW FOR
10:14:51 SIX MONTHS, AND ALL I WOULD SAY IS I THINK -- WELL, I
10:14:54 KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS AMENABLE TO THAT IN
10:14:58 SPIRIT, BUT I WOULD WANT TO CONSULT WITH HR TO
10:15:02 STRUCTURE IT SO THAT DUE PROCESS THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE
10:15:04 ENJOYS IS IN PLACE BUT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE GOOD FOR
10:15:05 THE COMMUNITY.
10:15:07 AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY ALIGN WITH THAT.
10:15:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME JUST RESPOND
10:15:11 ONE SECT ON THAT.
10:15:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
10:15:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AGREE WITH YOU MOST EMPLOYEES
10:15:18 DESERVE A LOT OF DUE PROCESS AT THE DIRECTOR LEVEL AND
10:15:19 PROBABLY A LOT LESS.
10:15:23 ANYWAY, THAT IS NOT FOR ME BUT HR.
10:15:25 >> I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS NOT --
10:15:29 WE DO KNOW AT THE DIRECTOR LEVEL, YOU ARE AT WILL, JUST
10:15:32 LIKE CERTAIN LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION ARE, AND I
10:15:34 THINK IT IS FAIR TO GIVE THAT SIX MONTHS OPPORTUNITY TO
10:15:41 GET ALIGNMENT, SO SCHEMATICALLY IT SOUNDS GREAT.
10:15:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:15:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SITTING HERE AND LISTENING FOR A
10:15:47 WHILE.
10:15:49 I CAN COME TO THE CONCLUSION -- I DON'T THINK I CAN
10:15:53 MEMORIZE WHAT I HAVE IN MY ONE-CELL BRAIN.
10:15:55 YOU HAVE THE POWER OF FIVE VOTES.
10:15:59 YOU CAN OVERRIDE THE MAYOR ON ANY ISSUE YOU WANT.
10:16:00 FOUR OF FIVE.
10:16:03 YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT IN THE CRA WITHOUT HAVING
10:16:05 THAT IN THE CONTRACT BECAUSE ALREADY BY LAW, YOU CAN
10:16:08 OVERRIDE ANYTHING BY FIVE VOTES.
10:16:12 THAT IS MY OPINION; HOWEVER, I AM NOT HERE TO BE
10:16:14 POWERFUL, I'M HERE TO BE RIGHT.
10:16:15 I AM NOT HERE IS TO SERVE.
10:16:19 I'M HERE TO SERVE AND BE RIGHT OR TRY TO BE RIGHT.
10:16:22 SO WHAT I AM LOOKING AT IS A SITUATION THAT WHEN THINGS
10:16:26 START -- YOU CAN FIX A PROBLEM, WHAT YOU CAN NEVER FIX
10:16:28 IS A PERCEPTION OF A PROBLEM.
10:16:30 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GRAB IT.
10:16:31 IT IS MOVING AWAY FROM YOU.
10:16:34 I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PERCEPTION PROBLEM.
10:16:37 WHOEVER GETS SELECTED HERE MORE THAN LIKELY WILL BE
10:16:41 MORE OF A -- THAN THE MAYOR MAKES.
10:16:46 NATIONAL SEARCH FIND FOR SOMEBODY WHO A ION STEIN AND
10:16:49 HE OR SHE SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT EXIST OR DON'T
10:16:50 EXIST.
10:16:52 THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES.
10:16:56 WHEN TIME COMES TO BITE THE BULLET, THIS BOARD LIKE ANY
10:16:59 OTHER BOARDS, FUTURE BOARDS AND PAST BOARDS HAULS THAT
10:17:01 POWER OF FIVE VOTES.
10:17:04 HOW OFTEN TO YOU USE THAT.
10:17:06 IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS
10:17:08 OF THAT BOARD.
10:17:12 SO THE COMPLICATION HERE -- I AM LOOKING AT IT IS BY
10:17:15 SAYING WHO IS GOING -- THAT INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO
10:17:16 REPORT TO.
10:17:19 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT IS WHAT I SEE COMING,
10:17:21 EITHER THE MAYOR OR THE CRA.
10:17:23 I THINK THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
10:17:24 MAYBE I AM WRONG.
10:17:30 BUT THAT'S WHAT I SEE FROM HERE JUST LISTENING.
10:17:35 NEW COUNCILMEMBERS COME HERE EVERY DAY.
10:17:38 DO WE SPEAK TO DEPARTMENT HEADS EVERY DAY?
10:17:42 WE DO A CHECK OF BALANCE OF THIS SYSTEM.
10:17:45 THAT MAYOR, HE OR SHE, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
10:17:49 OPERATIONS AND FUTURE OF THE CITY, AND WE ARE HERE TO
10:17:54 MAKE SURE THAT THAT BALANCE IS HERE.
10:17:57 WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS A
10:17:59 SHAME.
10:18:02 BUT IT'S HAPPENING.
10:18:06 I DON'T WANT THAT TO FILTER DOWN TO HERE.
10:18:10 AND WHAT I SEE COMING, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF
10:18:13 ANYTHING FILTERING DOWN TO HERE.
10:18:15 THANK YOU.
10:18:16 [RINGING]
10:18:19 -- THAT IS THE MAYOR CALLING ME.
10:18:21 I KNEW I WOULD GET A DAMN RING.
10:18:21 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:18:24 SHE CAUGHT ON REAL QUICK, I TELL YOU.
10:18:29 BUT I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO IT THE MAYOR ABOUT THE CRA.
10:18:33 BUT WHAT I SEE COMING -- IN FACT WHEN YOU GO BACK TO
10:18:36 '74, ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT COULD REMEMBER WHAT
10:18:39 HAPPENED, AND THANK THAT IN DETAIL, AND YOU ARE
10:18:42 SPEAKING TO THAT INDIVIDUAL OR LOOK AT THAT INDIVIDUAL.
10:18:46 WHEN THE MAYOR THEN TOLD THE CITY ATTORNEY I DON'T WANT
10:18:48 IT UNDER MY JURISDICTION.
10:18:50 PUT IT UNDER THE COUNCIL.
10:18:53 BUT THERE WAS NO DETAILS IN THAT DECISION.
10:18:55 JUST PUT IT UNDER THEM.
10:18:58 SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:19:01 THAT WAS IN 1974.
10:19:07 WE ARE NOW IN 2020 JUST ABOUT THAT IS A LONG TIME.
10:19:12 A LONG TIME THAT IT HAS WORKED FAIRLY WELL.
10:19:14 EXCEPT WHEN I LOOK AT IT IN DOLLARS.
10:19:17 YOU GO BACK AND DO A MATHEMATICAL ANALYSIS HOW MUCH
10:19:21 MONEY THAT COST THE CITY DIRECT, YOU WOULD BE
10:19:23 SURPRISED.
10:19:25 YOU CAN BUILD A BASEBALL STADIUM WITHOUT ASKING FOR THE
10:19:28 MONEY -- NOT THAT I WILL VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I WON'T.
10:19:31 BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHO IS
10:19:31 INDIVIDUAL IS.
10:19:34 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS INDIVIDUAL HAVE A CHANCE TO
10:19:34 OPERATE.
10:19:37 I NEVER MET THAT PERSON.
10:19:40 NO ONE HAS.
10:19:43 NO ONE HAS EVEN MADE A TIME DECISION WHO THAT PERSON IS
10:19:44 GOING TO BE.
10:19:48 SO LET THAT INDIVIDUAL PROVE THAT HE OR SHE HAS THE
10:19:52 ABILITY TO DO WHAT IS DEMANDED OF THAT PERSON BEFORE I
10:19:56 START CREATING AN IDEALISM THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL IS
10:19:59 GOING TO TAKE A JOB AND SAY WHAT DO I DO HERE.
10:20:02 IS THAT INDIVIDUAL GOING TO CALL ME ON A DAILY BASIS?
10:20:03 I DOUBT IT.
10:20:05 NO ONE HAS.
10:20:06 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:20:09 MAYBE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT I TELL THEM.
10:20:10 BUT NO ONE HAS.
10:20:13 DO I SPEAK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS CASUALLY?
10:20:14 YES, I DO.
10:20:18 ON INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO THE GENERAL
10:20:20 PUBLIC AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
10:20:25 SO WE ARE CAUGHT IN A QUAGMIRE WE CREATED OURSELVES.
10:20:27 I AM NOT LOOKING FOR POWER.
10:20:27 NEVER HAVE.
10:20:30 I JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT.
10:20:32 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:20:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:20:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:20:40 CHIEF BENNETT.
10:20:43 , WHEN I HEAR THE PROPOSALS, AS AN ATTORNEY AS
10:20:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER KNOWS THIS, YOU HAVE A CASE YOU
10:20:47 WANT TO SETTLE FOR $300,000.
10:20:49 YOU START AT $1.5 MILLION.
10:20:51 THAT IS THE GAME YOU PLAY.
10:20:53 YOU HAVE STARTED AT $300,000.
10:20:54 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
10:20:57 YOU ARE NOT MOVING THE GOALPOST.
10:20:59 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
10:21:02 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER OF SOME SORT OF A 5-2
10:21:05 ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURE OR SOMETHING I AM CERTAINLY MORE
10:21:06 THAN OPEN TO.
10:21:09 I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN
10:21:12 PUT FORWARD, THE SEPARATING OF THE TWO POSITIONS, THE
10:21:16 POSITION SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO CRAS.
10:21:20 THINK BACK TO WHERE WE WERE NINE MONTHS AGO.
10:21:21 THAT WAS UNTHINKABLE.
10:21:22 UNTHINKABLE.
10:21:24 AND THAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE SPIRIT OF THE
10:21:28 ADMINISTRATION AND THE VIGOR OF COUNCIL ON THIS ISSUE
10:21:31 LED BY KEY MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL THAT WE SHOULD BE
10:21:32 VERY, VERY PROUD OF.
10:21:36 THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS NOT A FOUR-VOTE
10:21:37 ADMINISTRATION.
10:21:40 THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT A BRIDGE BURNING
10:21:41 ADMINISTRATION.
10:21:44 THIS IS A, SO FAR, RIGHT, A BRIDGE BUILDING
10:21:48 ADMINISTRATION OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:21:51 THIS IS A SIX OR SEVEN-VOTE CITY COUNCIL
10:21:51 ADMINISTRATION.
10:21:54 AN ADMINISTRATION SO FAR THAT SEEKS TO HAVE A CONSENSUS
10:21:57 WITH CITY COUNCIL.
10:22:00 I THINK IF WE GO ABOVE WHAT HAS BEEN PUT FORTH HERE,
10:22:02 AGAIN, STARTING OFF WITH A REASONABLE POSITION THAT
10:22:06 ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE OUR POWER SPECIFICALLY IN WORKING
10:22:09 WITH THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE GREATER GOOD THAT NOT
10:22:12 JUST WILL WE BE MOVING THE GOALPOST FROM WHAT WE TALKED
10:22:15 ABOUT BEFORE, BUT DEALING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION IN A
10:22:18 WAY THAT IS NOT REFLECTED IN A WAY WE HAVE BEEN
10:22:19 TREATED.
10:22:21 AND I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE TO DRAW FIRST BLOOD, YOU
10:22:23 KNOW WHAT I MEAN SO TO SPEAK.
10:22:25 THAT IS KIND OF THE WAY I SEE IT.
10:22:28 THIS ADMINISTRATION WHO SO FAR HAVE BENT OVER
10:22:29 BACKYARDS.
10:22:32 WE OFTEN PRAISE YOU CHIEF BENNETT WITH THE WAY YOU HAVE
10:22:35 ACTED AND CERTAINLY CORRECT AND CERTAINLY THE PRAISE IS
10:22:38 SOMETHING APPLICABLE FAR BEFORE YOU BECAME THE CHIEF OF
10:22:39 STAFF HERE.
10:22:42 THE ISSUE I ALWAYS WANT TO BE ASKED HERE IF YOU GO
10:22:45 ABOVE WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE
10:22:50 SEEKING TO SOLVE THROUGH A MORE DRACONIAN MEASURE.
10:22:54 WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HAVING A SEPARATE CRA CHIEF,
10:22:57 SOMETHING WHICH, AGAIN, WOULD HAVE BEEN UNTHINKABLE SIX
10:23:00 OR SEVEN MONTHS AGO IS REALLY, REALLY OVERLOOKING STEP
10:23:04 OF PROGRESS, PROGRESS WE WORKED THROUGH TOGETHER BUT
10:23:06 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S COMPROMISE IS CERTAINLY
10:23:09 SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT 110%.
10:23:12 I THINK COMMUNITY WANTS MORE ACCOUNTABILITY ON THIS
10:23:12 ISSUE.
10:23:14 SOMETHING WE AGREE ON.
10:23:17 THAT IS THE BASIC ISSUE IS ACCOUNTABILITY AND
10:23:19 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT THE USE OF POWER.
10:23:23 AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE IT, BUT POWER HAS GOT TO BE I
10:23:26 RESPECTIVELY ASSERT, USED WITH A PURPOSE.
10:23:27 USED WITH A PURPOSE.
10:23:30 IT WE GO ABOVE THIS, I DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE.
10:23:31 PRESENTLY I JUST DON'T SEE IT.
10:23:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:39 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY
10:23:45 COLLEAGUE RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE TRYING TO
10:23:50 BUILD A -- AN ENVIRONMENT OF COLLEGIALITY AND WE ARE
10:23:53 WORKING TOGETHER AND SO FAR YOU AND THE MAYOR HAVE BEEN
10:23:54 REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH.
10:23:57 AND YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED MOST OF THE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE
10:24:00 PUT FORWARD, SO IT KEEPS US ON OUR TOES SO WE KEEP
10:24:03 HAVING TO COME UP WITH NEW IDEAS TO TRY TO KEEP STAY
10:24:03 AHEAD.
10:24:06 PEOPLE ASK ME HOW ARE THINGS GOING.
10:24:09 I TELL THEM IT IS A LOT BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS
10:24:10 GOING TO BE.
10:24:12 THE PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE WHAT WE HEARD THIS
10:24:17 MORNING TO SOME EXTENT, A PROBLEM OF THE PAST WHERE
10:24:18 THINGS WERE DIFFERENT.
10:24:20 AND THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THINGS WILL
10:24:23 CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE NOT UNDER THIS MAYOR, BUT
10:24:26 IN A FUTURE MAYOR, AND THE ENVIRONMENT WAS NOT
10:24:29 COLLEGIAL AND THE COMMUNITY WAS NOT HAPPY.
10:24:31 THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE COMING UP
10:24:34 COMPLAINING EVERY WEEK HOW CERTAIN PARTS OF THE
10:24:39 COMMUNITY WERE IGNORED AND THINGS WEREN'T DONE THE WAY
10:24:41 THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
10:24:43 WHY I AND SO MANY OF US PUSHING SO HARD FOR THESE
10:24:44 CHANGES.
10:24:49 AS -- AS MY COLLEAGUES MR. MIRANDA SAID, IT IS
10:24:51 ULTIMATELY THE DECISION OF THIS BOARD.
10:24:55 AND WHATEVER WE AGREE ON, WE STILL HAVE FIVE VOTES THAT
10:24:57 WE CAN DECIDE TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT GOING FORWARD.
10:25:00 BY LAW, THAT IS HOW IT IS SET UP.
10:25:04 THING DECISION IS -- IS PARTLY AROUND PRESERVING THOSE
10:25:04 RIGHTS.
10:25:06 IT IS NOT ABOUT GAINING MORE POWER.
10:25:08 ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO GIVE UP THE RIGHTS OR KEEP
10:25:12 THEM.
10:25:16 PLEASE ROBINSON SAID ELOQUENTLY EARLIER, WE HAVE COME A
10:25:17 LONG WAY FROM WHERE WE WERE.
10:25:22 THE FIRST THING WAS SEVERAL OF US WERE PUSHING FOR --
10:25:23 FOR CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP.
10:25:26 AND THAT HAPPENED PRETTY EARLY ON.
10:25:27 AND THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING.
10:25:31 I MEAN, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST SINGLE CHANGE THAT -- THAT
10:25:32 AFFECTED ALL YOU HAVE US.
10:25:35 IT CHANGED ALL THE DYNAMICS FOR EVERYONE.
10:25:39 AND -- AND THE MAYOR HAS HIRED A GREAT PERSON AS THE
10:25:42 HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SOMEBODY THAT I HAVE
10:25:44 KNOWN IN THE PAST AND I WORKED WITH AND I HAVE A LOT OF
10:25:47 RESPECT FOR AND I THINK SHE WILL DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
10:25:51 SO THOSE ARE TWO BIG THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
10:25:55 NEXT, WE PROPOSE -- WE, THE CRA BOARD, PROPOSED HAVING
10:26:00 AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHICH AS HE SAID WAS SOMETHING
10:26:05 THAT DIDN'T SEEM POSSIBLE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
10:26:07 AND YOU AND THE MAYOR SAID WE WILL DO THAT.
10:26:09 WE WILL CREATE A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
10:26:11 NOW WE ARE ALL ON SAME PAGE WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY WHO
10:26:15 HAS BOTTOM-LINE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THIS, PROVIDES
10:26:19 OVERSIGHT, PROVIDES PLAN AND MEASUREMENT THAT WE
10:26:21 HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE AND THANK GOD YOU ARE A MEASUREMENT
10:26:26 PERSON, MR. BENNETT AND WE WILL BE MEASURING RESULTS
10:26:29 AND MAKE SURE WE DO THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS US
10:26:29 TO DO.
10:26:32 JUST THE FACT OFF THIS AGREED TO OUR PROPOSAL TO HAVE
10:26:33 AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS A HUGE WIN.
10:26:37 THEN YOU WENT FURTHER AND SAID -- THIS LAST MEET WE GO
10:26:41 SAID WE DON'T WANT THIS PERSON -- MEETING WE SAID WE
10:26:44 DON'T WANT THIS PERSON TO GO TO THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC --
10:26:48 I DON'T THINK MISS POST WAS ANNOUNCED YET, BUT I WOULD
10:26:52 PREFER THIS PERSON TO REPORT SEPARATELY AND YOU AGREED
10:26:53 TO THIS ALSO.
10:26:56 AND FOUR OR FIVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE COME TO.
10:26:58 THE LAST THING IS WHO THIS PERSON REPORTS TO.
10:27:00 AND YOU SWAYED THIS CHART.
10:27:04 WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER CHART ALTERNATIVES THE OTHER DAY.
10:27:06 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE PROPOSED LAST
10:27:09 TIME WHICH IS THAT BECAUSE THE PERSON HAS TO BE IN THE
10:27:12 CITY STRUCTURE, THEY WILL PARTLY REPORT TO THE MAYOR
10:27:14 AND PARTLY TO THE CRA BOARD.
10:27:16 IF I AM WRONG ABOUT THAT, LET ME KNOW.
10:27:19 ULTIMATELY WHATEVER HAPPENS, WE CAN CANCEL THE
10:27:22 OUTSOURCING CONTRACT.
10:27:26 I STILL THINK THAT -- IN AN IDEAL WORLD, EVEN THOUGH WE
10:27:30 HAVE -- I THINK WE AS A CRA BOARD HAVE WON IN FIVE OR
10:27:32 SIX OF THE SEVEN THINGS THAT WE HAVE WANTED.
10:27:36 I STILL THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR NUMBER EIGHT AND HAVE
10:27:38 THE CRA DIRECTOR DIRECTLY REPORT TO US.
10:27:41 I MAY NOT HAVE THE VOTES ON THAT, BUT I THINK THE
10:27:43 NUANCE IN THIS IS IN THE AGREEMENT.
10:27:47 AND ONE THING I WILL ASK TO YOU DO COMING BACK -- I
10:27:49 DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTION THIS WHEN I WAS OUT A MINUTE
10:27:50 AGO.
10:27:53 BUT I THINK WE SHOULD MODIFY THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT
10:27:57 WITH THE CITY TO REFLECT THE THINGS YOU SAID WHAT THIS
10:28:01 PERSON WILL DO AND HOW THEY WILL ACT AND IF THE CITY IS
10:28:06 OFFERING IN-KIND SERVICES AND IN CONTRACT AND IN THE
10:28:09 AGREEMENT WE WILL DESCRIBE OUT HOW THE REPORTING
10:28:12 STRUCTURE WILL WORK AND WHAT STICK STANCE WILL THEY
10:28:15 REPORT TO THE MAYOR AND WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE TO THE CRA
10:28:15 BOARD.
10:28:18 ARE YOU WOK THAT?
10:28:18 >> I AM.
10:28:22 AN APROPOS TIME TO RUN THE SOLICITATION FOR THE
10:28:23 RECRUITMENT PROCESS.
10:28:27 WHILE WE CONCURRENTLY LOOK TOY A MEND THE SERVICE LEVEL
10:28:32 AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST OUTCOME FOR
10:28:33 THE CRA COMMUNITY.
10:28:36 >> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EDITING IT AND MAY ADD A
10:28:41 FEW PARAGRAPHS TO REFLECT THAT AND THE OFFER OF IN-KIND
10:28:45 SUPPORT IS GENEROUS AND MAKE SURE THE CITY GETS CREDIT
10:28:46 FOR IT.
10:28:48 LIKE I SAID IN THE OTHER MEETING WE HAVE TWO HATS AND
10:28:51 WE NEED TO PROTECT THE CITY AND ULTIMATELY WE -- THE
10:28:56 MAYOR IS IN CHARGE OF 1.1 BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET AND
10:28:57 THIS IS $33 MILLION.
10:29:00 THIS IS A REALLY SMALL PIECE, BUT IF YOU HEAR FROM THE
10:29:01 COMMUNITY.
10:29:03 THE COMMUNITY THINKS THIS MONEY IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND
10:29:06 THEY WANT EVERY DOLLAR TO BE USED IN THE RIGHT WAY AND
10:29:10 TO BE USED EFFECTIVELY WHY WE YOU FOUGHT THIS BATTLE.
10:29:14 NOT WHO SHOULD BE IN CHARGE, BUT IDEALLY HAVE PEOPLE
10:29:16 SHOW UP AND SAY YOU SPENT THE MONEY REALLY WELL.
10:29:20 MAYBE THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, ARE YOU IDEALLY FEWER
10:29:24 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP SAYING THE MONEY HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT
10:29:24 WELL.
10:29:27 THE LEGACY OF THE PASS WE HAVE INHERITED.
10:29:30 ANYWAY, I THINK IF YOU WILL COME BACK US TO THE NEXT
10:29:34 TIME WITH THE PROPOSED EDITS TO THE OUTSOURCE
10:29:37 AGREEMENT, THEN WE CAN REVIEW THAT AND EDIT THAT AND
10:29:41 THE NUANCES OF IT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS ALL
10:29:41 MEANS.
10:29:44 AND THANK YOU FOR THE COLLEGIALITY AND HIRING CAROL
10:29:44 POST.
10:29:47 AND I THINK WITH THIS PERSON AND CAROL WORKING TOGETHER
10:29:50 WITH YOU AND US, WE CAN REALLY ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF
10:29:51 THINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
10:29:52 >> THANK YOU.
10:29:56 AND I THINK I HOLD BOARD MEMBER GUDES AN ADDITIONAL
10:29:59 COMMENT.
10:30:02 CAROL POST IS -- WE ARE ON DECK THROUGH MY OFFICE TO
10:30:05 SET UP MEET AND GREETS WITH EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL/CRA
10:30:06 BOARD MEMBERS.
10:30:08 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM SCHEDULED ALREADY.
10:30:11 SO THAT WAY YOU WILL HAVE THAT CHANCE FOR THAT ONE ON
10:30:14 ONE BEFORE THE ADDITIONAL PROCESSES OCCUR IN THAT
10:30:15 SPACE.
10:30:19 SO THAT IS BY DESIGN.
10:30:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:30:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:24 I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT, BECAUSE I DON'T SLEEP
10:30:25 ANYMORE.
10:30:25 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:30:34 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS UP WITH MY INSOMNIA FOR WEEKS, BUT
10:30:36 A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION FROM WHAT I
10:30:36 WITNESSED BEFORE.
10:30:38 I HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE.
10:30:42 NOTHING TO SAY -- I DON'T WANT TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT THE
10:30:45 FACT THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE -- WILL HAVE A SEPARATE
10:30:49 CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND IS SEPARATE ECONOMIC
10:30:51 DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR SHOWS NOT ONLY THAT YOU GUYS ARE
10:30:54 OPEN-MINDED AND WANT TO BUILD BRIDGES AND COMMUNICATE,
10:30:56 THERE IS A BETTER SET OF BALANCE.
10:31:02 I LOOKED AT IS THERE -- NO HARM NO FOUL IF THAT PERSON
10:31:07 REPORTED DIRECTLY TO -- TO THE CRA BOARD BEFORE
10:31:11 ATTORNEY SHELBY AS HIRED AS A CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:31:13 THE CITY ATTORNEY SIT IN ON THE MEETINGS AND THIS WAS
10:31:14 IT.
10:31:16 THAT PERSON SPOKE WITH-TO-COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND
10:31:19 THEY BROUGHT IN A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL WHO SAID YOU ARE
10:31:20 MY SEVEN CLIENTS.
10:31:25 AND HE REPORTS DIRECTLY TO US AND WORKS WITH US
10:31:27 SEPARATE OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:31:28 NO ISSUE.
10:31:33 I HAD ONE HICCUP WITH THE POLICE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD,
10:31:36 BUT BEYOND THAT A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
10:31:40 THE CRA IS 30 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS COMPARED TO THE
10:31:41 BILLION DOLLAR CITY BUDGET.
10:31:44 WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND POWER AS COUNCILMEMBERS AND
10:31:48 BOARD MEMBERS WITH THE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF FIVE TO
10:31:52 OVERRIDE A VETO AND ESSENTIALLY DO WHAT WE WANT IF WE
10:31:53 HAVE THE VOTES THERE.
10:31:57 WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY OR THE FINAL SAY AS LONG AS WE
10:31:58 HAVE THE FIFTH VOTE.
10:32:03 BUT LOOKING AT THIS AND HOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AS THE
10:32:06 ADMINISTRATION, YOU REPRESENTING THE MAYOR AND COMING
10:32:06 HERE.
10:32:08 YOU HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL.
10:32:10 THESE DISCUSSIONS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE
10:32:11 PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
10:32:12 YOU ANSWER THE PHONE.
10:32:14 YOU ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
10:32:16 YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY RESPONSIVE TO US.
10:32:17 THE MAYOR AS WELL.
10:32:21 THE MAYOR CARES OF BUILDING BRIDGES, AND NOT HAVING,
10:32:26 YOU KNOW HE, A STALEMATE, AND ARGUMENTS AND HE SAID SHE
10:32:27 SAID AND FIGHTING BACK AND FORTH.
10:32:33 I AM HOPEFUL THAT IF IT'S BE GUN LIKE THIS, IT WILL
10:32:34 CONTINUE LIKE THIS.
10:32:37 SHE AS A PERSON WANTS TO WORK TOGETHER WITH COUNCIL.
10:32:40 NOT THAT ALL I NEED IS FOUR VOTES AS I HEARD SO MANY
10:32:41 TIMES.
10:32:42 I WANT SEVEN OR SIX.
10:32:45 TAKING THE EXTRA STEP AND GOING THE EXTRA MILE TO MAKE
10:32:49 SURE EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE ARE HAPPY IN
10:32:50 SOME DEGREE.
10:32:53 HAVING SAID THAT WITH THE CRA, WE HEAR THE PUBLIC COME
10:32:54 HERE EVERY THURSDAY.
10:32:58 AND IT IS NOT A SPECIAL KIND OF HATRED, YOU BUT I FEEL
10:33:03 LIKE EAST TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS THE LARGEST CRA IS
10:33:03 IGNORED.
10:33:07 PEOPLE HAVE NOT FOCUSED ON THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:33:09 AND ALTHOUGH I DON'T REPRESENT THAT DISTRICT, I AM
10:33:11 THERE ALL THE TIME.
10:33:13 I WAS THERE YESTERDAY MORNING DRIVING THROUGH.
10:33:15 I WAS THERE THIS MORNING AS THE SUN WAS COMING UP GOING
10:33:20 THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ASKING MYSELF, WHY IS IT
10:33:25 THAT THE LARGEST CRA, WHY IS THAT AREA NOT TREATED
10:33:29 EQUAL AS WEST TAMPA OR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS OR GOING INTO
10:33:29 SOUTH TAMPA.
10:33:32 WHY IS IT THAT SO MUCH IS LACKING.
10:33:34 WHY IS IT FROZEN IN TIME?
10:33:37 WHY DON'T WE TALK INVESTING IN THE MIDDLE CLASS.
10:33:39 YOU DON'T HAVE THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE SAME RESTAURANTS,
10:33:43 THE AMENITIES, THE CAR DEALERSHIPS, WHATEVER IT IS AS
10:33:45 YOU WOULD ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE.
10:33:49 SO IN SPEAKING TO SOMEONE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, I SAID
10:33:51 THIS AREA HAS BEEN IGNORED.
10:33:54 YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T KNOW IF
10:33:57 EVER, THAT REALLY FOCUSED BEYOND THE CAMPAIGN.
10:33:58 BEYOND ASKING FOR VOTES.
10:34:00 FOCUS ON THIS AREA.
10:34:03 WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT
10:34:09 HAS ITS OWN CRA AND OWN FUNDING BUT WE IGNORE IT AND I
10:34:09 DON'T KNOW WHY.
10:34:11 DOWNTOWN IS FLOURISHING.
10:34:14 YBOR CITY HAS CHANGED AND FLOURISHING.
10:34:16 YOU GO EAST OF THE INTERSTATE.
10:34:21 YOU GO PAST 15TH STREET YOU GO PAST THE WALMART ON
10:34:24 HILLSBOROUGH AND WHAT, IT WAS A DEPRESSED AREA THAT
10:34:27 LOOKS AS IT DID WHEN I WAS A KID AND HAVEN'T SEEN
10:34:30 ACTION SINCE MY MOTHER WAS A LITTLE GIRL SHE WOULD GO
10:34:33 TO SEARS WHICH IS NOW URBAN TECH.
10:34:38 AND HAVING SAID THAT, WE NEED TO EMBRACE AND UNDERSTAND
10:34:39 THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CRA.
10:34:42 NOT THAT WE FULFILL CAMPAIGN PROMISES BUT LISTEN TO THE
10:34:45 PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE HEARD AND WE WORK
10:34:46 TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY.
10:34:48 I THINK OUR ADMINISTRATION, WE WILL DO THAT MOVING
10:34:49 FORWARD.
10:34:52 HAVING SAID THAT, HIRING A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
10:34:53 CRA.
10:34:56 I DON'T WANT TO SAY A PROBATIONARY PERIOD FOR SIX
10:34:59 MONTHS OR WHAT IT IS, WE SEE HOW THEY WORK AND WHAT
10:35:00 THEY DO.
10:35:01 WE KEEP THAT OPEN.
10:35:04 WHO SHOULD THAT PERSON REPORT TO?
10:35:07 DO AN EVALUATION OF SOME SORT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME
10:35:09 WHICH I AM HOPEFUL WILL GO GREAT BUT IF WE HAVE TO MOVE
10:35:14 IN THAT DIRECTION OF THAT PERSON REPORTING TO US, SO IT
10:35:15 BE.
10:35:18 AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
10:35:20 THAT REPORTS TO US THAT WORKS WITH ALL SEVEN PEOPLE.
10:35:24 SOME PEOPLE WILL SAYS IT RIDICULOUS THAT PERSON HAS TO
10:35:26 HAVE SEVEN CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE
10:35:30 AND OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY DOES AND IT WORKS WELL,
10:35:31 AND IT IS OKAY.
10:35:33 GOING BACK TO THE -- HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN
10:35:35 THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
10:35:37 THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN FOR COMMUNICATION.
10:35:45 YOU GUYS AS HAVE BEEN SAID HAVE BENT OVER BACKWARDS.
10:35:49 WE COULD HAVE HAD A CONFLICTED BUDGET VOTE BUT YOU WENT
10:35:51 ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE WE WERE HEARD.
10:35:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHETHER IT
10:35:55 BE OTHER ISSUES.
10:35:58 I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
10:36:00 I DON'T LIKE TO FIGHT.
10:36:03 BUT IF WE HAVE TO FIGHT, WE WILL GET THERE.
10:36:04 I DON'T FEEL THAT FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION.
10:36:09 I FEEL THAT MAYOR CASTOR WANTS TO WORK TOGETHER AND DO
10:36:12 WHAT IS RATE FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT I
10:36:16 EMPHASIZE EAST TAMPA -- TAMPA DOESN'T STOP AT
10:36:16 INTERSTATE.
10:36:19 IT GOES TO THE CITY LIMIT.
10:36:22 THESE FOLKS COME HERE TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY.
10:36:26 I HEARD IT SINCE TAKING PART IN POLITICS TEN YEARS AGO.
10:36:27 LET'S MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
10:36:29 EVERYBODY ELSE IS FLOURISHING.
10:36:33 HIGH TIDES LIFT ALL BOATS IF I LOSS BEE.
10:36:35 EAST TAMPA NEEDS LIFTING TOO.
10:36:38 THANK YOU.
10:36:39 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
10:36:44 A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO ADD ON, WHENEVER IT COMES TO
10:36:47 THE CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AS I SAID BEFORE, I WANT TO
10:36:50 LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A HIRE THAT REPRESENTS A
10:36:52 DIVERSITY IN OUR CITY AND AREAS.
10:36:54 IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
10:36:57 BUILD ON SOMETHING THAT MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN
10:37:02 MANISCALCO SAYS, WE LOOK AT AREAS NOT JUST EAST TAMPA
10:37:07 AND THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I REPRESENT, SULPHUR
10:37:09 SPRINGS AND THE USF AREA.
10:37:12 IT COMES DOWN TO ONE BASIC ISSUE WHICH IS POVERTY.
10:37:17 INCUMBENT ON ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS THE MAYOR OR CITY
10:37:20 COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THE PLIGHT OF THE FOLKS IN OUR
10:37:21 CITY ARE PUT UP FRONT.
10:37:26 I THINK OF A STORY HE REMEMBER, GEORGE REEDY, THE PRESS
10:37:31 SECRETARY FOR PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON AND HE WAS A
10:37:34 GENERAL AND HE TOLD HIM OF WAR ON POVERTY.
10:37:35 WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS.
10:37:36 POOR PEOPLE DON'T VOTE.
10:37:39 IT WILL NOT GET YOU ANY VOTES.
10:37:42 PRESIDENT JOHNSON SAID I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL GET A
10:37:44 SINGLE DOLLAR FOR THIS PROGRAM AND IF THE PEOPLE WILL
10:37:46 VOTE, BUT BY THE TIME I AM DONE, THE PEOPLE IN THE
10:37:50 UNITED STATES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO IGNORE THE POVERTY IN
10:37:51 THEIR MIDST.
10:37:53 WHAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH CITY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
10:37:57 THE POVERTY THAT HAS BEEN THERE TOO LONG.
10:37:59 DOESN'T EFFECT OUR PICKET FENCES OR OUR GATED
10:38:05 COMMUNITIES EAST TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, USF, BUSCH
10:38:08 BOULEVARD, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IT IS OUR PROBLEM 110%.
10:38:11 AND THEN AGAIN TO BUILD UPON THE IDEA OF GOING BEYOND
10:38:15 WHAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED IN TERMS OF THE COMPROMISE
10:38:17 LOOKING AT FOR CRAS.
10:38:19 I SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT IS UNNECESSARY AT THIS
10:38:20 TIME.
10:38:24 IT IS A RABBIT HOLE.
10:38:28 I URGE MY COLLEAGUES NOT TO BE CHASING RABBIT HOLES AND
10:38:30 NOT TO BE CHASING WATERFALLS.
10:38:30 THANK YOU.
10:38:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVING SOMETHING
10:38:35 MORE TO SAY?
10:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:38:40 FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU -- EXCUSE MY
10:38:40 VOICE.
10:38:43 I AM A LITTLE HOARSE TODAY.
10:38:49 I WANT TO THANK CHIEF BENNETT FOR SETTING UP A MEETING
10:38:49 WITH MY OFFICE.
10:38:52 WE WENT ON A TWO-HOUR TOUR OF EAST TAMPA.
10:38:55 WE TALKED OF THE HOMES, THE LOTS THAT ARE EMPTY, THE
10:38:59 HOUSES THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN THAT NEED REPAIR, LIENS.
10:39:08 WE TALKED JUST ABOUT EVERY SITUATIONAL FIX THAT WE
10:39:12 THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE ON.
10:39:15 WE LOOKED AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS.
10:39:18 WE LOOKED AT JUST ABOUT ANY AND EVERYTHING IN EAST
10:39:20 TAMPA TO MOVE EAST TAMPA.
10:39:22 I SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:39:25 SO THAT TELLS ME THAT WHEN THE PROCESS STARTS OF WHO WE
10:39:30 ARE GOING TO HIRE, YOU WILL ALREADY HAVE THAT MIND SET
10:39:36 OF IT'S ITS IS THAT THE PERSON.
10:39:38 WE WILL NEED THE PERSON WITH THE MIND SET TO MOVE.
10:39:43 WHEN THAT PERSON IS HIRED, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FIRE
10:39:45 BURNING IN THESE OTHER CRAS, AND WHEN I GET IN THIS
10:39:48 POSITION, I KNOW WHERE I NEED TO GO FIRST.
10:39:50 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:39:54 AS IT RELATES TO THE POSITION, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
10:39:55 COMPROMISE IS GOOD.
10:39:58 I AM USED TO COMPROMISING.
10:40:00 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH THE COMPROMISE THAT THE
10:40:03 GUARANTEE IS THERE THAT, HEY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE
10:40:04 COMPROMISE.
10:40:05 WE ARE GOING TO WORK IT.
10:40:08 WE ARE NOT GOING TO SHIFT IN ANOTHER GEAR THAT THIS
10:40:11 PERSON IS RESPONSIBLE HERE, AND CAN WORK WITH THE OTHER
10:40:14 PERSON, BUT THIS PERSON'S FOCUS IS HERE.
10:40:16 WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
10:40:19 I DIDN'T RESEARCH -- I APOLOGIZE.
10:40:22 ARE THERE MANAGER AT-WILL EMPLOYEES?
10:40:25 >> YES, AND I AM GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
10:40:25 COMMENT.
10:40:27 BASICALLY WE ARE MINUTE BY MINUTE.
10:40:30 SO HERE WE ARE.
10:40:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST THINK -- I WILL WAIT UNTIL A
10:40:37 MOTION IS PUT ON THE FLOOR TO SEE WHAT THOSE MOTIONS
10:40:37 WILL SAY.
10:40:40 I AM WILLING TO WORK, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE
10:40:42 IS A BALANCE AND THAT PERSON WHOEVER WE ARE HIRING
10:40:44 KNOWS THEY ARE COMING INTO A SITUATION THAT THEY NEED
10:40:46 TO RUN, THEY DON'T NEED TO WALK.
10:40:49 THEY HAVE GOT TO RUN BECAUSE EAST TAMPA IS HUNGRY.
10:40:51 THE COUNCIL IS HUNGRY.
10:40:53 THE FOLKS OUT THERE ARE COMING TO US.
10:40:56 WE KNOW THE ISSUES, BUT TAKES TIME FOR US TO PUT THINGS
10:40:58 IN PLACE TO MAKE THINGS WORK.
10:41:02 WE ARE ALL HAVING TO BE HERE SIX, SEVEN MONTHS, SO WE
10:41:03 HAVE TO FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT.
10:41:06 HARD TO COMING IN POSITION WHERE THEY CAN COME HERE AND
10:41:07 DO THINGS.
10:41:08 IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
10:41:10 WE HAVE TO COME IN AND FIGURE OUT AND FIND OUT WHAT IS
10:41:14 BROKEN, HOW DO WE FIX IT, WHO ARE THE PARTNERS, AND
10:41:17 THEN WE MAKE THAT START.
10:41:20 THIS IS THE JUMP START WHAT WE MAKE TODAY AS A MOTION.
10:41:22 WE MOVE ON, BUT WHOEVER WE HIRE, THEY -- THEY KNOW THAT
10:41:25 WHEN THEY COME IN, IT'S RUNNING AND THEY ARE RUNNING
10:41:26 WITH EAST TAMPA.
10:41:29 THEY ARE RUNNING.
10:41:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:41:35 >>BILL CARLSON: IN ADDITION OF EAST TAMPA, YOU ALL
10:41:37 REMEMBER THAT TAMPA SCORECARD PRESENTATION I MADE A
10:41:40 COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
10:41:43 TAMPA BY -- BY STANDARD MEASURES HAS A CRISIS IN
10:41:45 POVERTY AND HOUSING.
10:41:48 AND, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOLKS CAME BEFORE
10:41:52 US AND TOLD US WE MIGHT HAVE A SHORTAGE OF 5 50,000
10:41:58 HOMES AND WE NEED -- 50,000 HOMES AND NEED EVERY
10:42:01 RESOURCE TO PAY ATTENTION TO EVERY PART OF THE
10:42:01 COMMUNITY.
10:42:03 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION --
10:42:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON ONE SECOND.
10:42:08 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING AND I
10:42:10 WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ALSO.
10:42:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:15 WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT LET'S BE MUCH MORE
10:42:17 OPEN-MINDED.
10:42:20 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THAT INDIVIDUAL ON THE OTHER
10:42:24 SIDE POSSIBLY LISTENING TO THIS COUNCIL TODAY ON THE
10:42:27 CRA BOARD AND THINKING, GEE, I GOT SIX MONTHS, THEY ARE
10:42:28 GOING TO LET ME GO.
10:42:31 WHO IN THE HELL IS GOING TO APPLY?
10:42:36 LET'S BE REALISTIC WOULD YOU APPLY.
10:42:39 LEAVE WHEREVER YOU ARE AT, RELOCATE, GET THE JOB YOU
10:42:41 HAVE NOW AND LEAVE AND YOU ARE GOING TO COME SEE US?
10:42:44 HELL, I WOULD STAY AWAY.
10:42:48 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
10:42:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOARD MEMBERS, I AM JUST GOING TO
10:42:52 FINISH UP AND MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET.
10:42:56 WE HAVE MOVED A LONG WAY SINCE FOUR MONTHS AGO.
10:42:58 AND I HAVE HEARD THIS WORD THROWN OUT SO MANY DIFFERENT
10:43:02 TIMES, POWER, POWER, POWER.
10:43:05 THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER.
10:43:08 AND THIS IS THE WAY THE CRA WORKS.
10:43:10 WE FIRST HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE.
10:43:14 AND I AM HOPING THAT THIS PERSON, WHOMEVER WE HIRE --
10:43:18 IS GOING BE TOO CONDUIT, STRAIGHT FROM THE PEOPLE TO
10:43:19 US.
10:43:21 THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO MAKE MOTIONS.
10:43:25 I HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FIRST.
10:43:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I AM JUST GOING TO EXPAND ON
10:43:32 -- OR TIGHTEN UP, I GUESS, WHAT I SAID BEFORE IN THE
10:43:33 FORM OF A MOTION.
10:43:36 AND MR. MIRANDA, LET ME SPEAK TO TWO POINTS THAT YOU
10:43:36 MADE.
10:43:40 IT AND THEY ARE BOTH GOOD, VALID POINTS.
10:43:43 ACTUALLY MR. GUDES FIRST.
10:43:46 NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REPORTING, WHO DOES IT
10:43:47 REPORT TO?
10:43:48 AND MR. BENNETT.
10:43:53 HOW DO WE GET THAT OVERHEAD ACTIVATED BACK UP AGAIN.
10:43:57 >> WE WILL ASK TO PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE.
10:43:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE YOU GO.
10:44:04 THE CRA DIRECTOR TO A CERTAIN EXTENT REPORTS UP AS
10:44:08 CHAIRMAN INDICATED REPORTS TO THE COMMUNITY, REPORTS TO
10:44:09 US, AND REPORTS TO THE MAYOR.
10:44:11 I LIKE THAT.
10:44:15 IN REGARD TO REPORTING TO US, FRANKLY, IT IS A MONTHLY
10:44:16 REPORT.
10:44:18 WHEN THAT CRA DIRECTOR COMES ON BOARD, JOHN BENNETT
10:44:20 WILL NOT BE STANDING THERE.
10:44:22 THE DIRECTOR IS GOING TO BE STANDING THERE EVERY MONTH
10:44:23 REPORTING TO US.
10:44:27 AND I THINK THAT IS GOOD AND VERY, VERY HEALTHY ALONG,
10:44:31 OF COURSE, THE OTHER MANAGERS.
10:44:34 IN REGARD TO THIS ISSUE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIVE MEMBERS
10:44:39 GET DISSATISFIED AND PUT -- I AM NOT SAYING OVERNIGHT
10:44:42 THAT -- AND I AM SPECIFIC HEE NOT SAYING OVERNIGHT
10:44:43 SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
10:44:44 SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:44:48 PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SHOW UP AND THAT PERSON IS OUT
10:44:48 THE DOOR THE NEXT DAY.
10:44:50 I AM NOT SAYING THAT, NO.
10:44:54 I AM SAYING IF SOMETHING LIKES THAT HAPPEN AND FIVE US
10:44:58 SEE A BIG CONCERN, SEE A BIG PROBLEM, WE ARE GOING TO
10:45:03 PUT THAT PERSON ON NOTICE FOR SIX MONTHS.
10:45:06 CLEAN IT UP, STRAIGHTEN IT UP, AND YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS
10:45:08 TO DO IT.
10:45:10 IF YOU DON'T SURE ENOUGH YOU MAY BE BACK OUT THE DOOR.
10:45:13 ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I WILL JUST MAKE THE MOTION IN
10:45:16 ADDITION TO WHATEVER AMENDMENTS THAT MR. CARLSON HAS
10:45:21 PROPOSED AND ANYBODY ELSE HAVE PROPOSE MONITORING THE
10:45:24 CONTRACT, WE ASK LEGAL TO DRAFT AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT
10:45:28 TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY THAT WOULD -- WOULD
10:45:32 EFFECTIVELY SAY THAT WITH A VOTE OF AT LEAST FIVE
10:45:36 MEMBERS, WE WOULD PUT THE CITY ON NOTICE AND PUT THE
10:45:41 DIRECTOR ON NOTICE OF OUR CONCERN, WHATEVER OTHER
10:45:44 LANGUAGE THE CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT WANT TO COME UP WITH.
10:45:50 AND THEN AUTOMATICALLY SIX MONTHS LATER, THE -- THAT
10:45:54 ISSUE WOULD COME BACK FOR A -- A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE OR
10:45:59 NO CONFIDENCE, JUST LIKE THEY DO IN ENGLAND.
10:46:05 AND, AGAIN, AFTER THAT SIX-MONTH PERIOD, IF THERE ARE
10:46:07 STILL FIVE VOTES AGAINST THAT PERSON, WE WOULD BE
10:46:11 DIRECTING THE CITY TO TERMINATE THAT PERSON AND REPLACE
10:46:14 THAT PERSON.
10:46:17 >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT MEANS WE WOULD PUT THEM ON A
10:46:20 PROBATIONARY PERIOD, REVISIT IN SIX MONTHS.
10:46:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
10:46:24 >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
10:46:28 SCYTHE SAITH MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECOND BY
10:46:29 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:46:30 ANY DISCUSSION?
10:46:32 >> I BELIEVE CHIEF BENNETT SUGGESTED THIS.
10:46:34 AND CAN YOU JUST ADD TO THE MOTION AFTER CONSULTATION
10:46:37 WITH THE CITY'S HR DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE IT IS
10:46:42 CONSISTENT WITH ANY PERSONNEL RULES THAT MAY APPLY?
10:46:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MEAN AS PART OF THE SIX-MONTH
10:46:45 PROCESS.
10:46:50 >> SURE.
10:46:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:46:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT.BUT IT IS
10:46:57 REPETITIOUS.
10:47:00 WITH FIVE MONTHS, YOU CAN GO DOWN THE LIST OF THE 13
10:47:02 ITEMS AND VOTE THEM ALL DOWN AND NO ONE IN THE
10:47:06 ADMINISTRATION CAN TILL -- CAN OVERDO YOU.
10:47:07 NONE CAN OVERRULE YOU.
10:47:10 YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT POWER, BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT
10:47:12 IN, THAT'S FINE.
10:47:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:47:17 >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOTION I WAS GOING TO MAKE --
10:47:19 MAYBE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY.
10:47:23 THE MOTION I WAS GOING TO MAKE IS ASK CHIEF OF STAFF TO
10:47:26 COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND PRESENT AN AMENDMENT
10:47:29 TO THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE THE DETAILS
10:47:34 OF THIS IN THE AGREEMENT FOR US TO APPROVE.
10:47:37 >> I THINK THAT --
10:47:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY
10:47:40 AMENDMENT.
10:47:43 WORK WITH LEGAL BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DRAFT THE
10:47:44 LANGUAGE I SPOKE TO.
10:47:49 I DON'T REMEMBER WHATEVER TWEAKS YOU HAD --
10:47:51 >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT
10:47:56 MR. BENNETT MADE PUTTING IT IN A FORMAL -- TWO OR THREE
10:47:59 PARAGRAPHS THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE OUTSOURCE
10:47:59 AGREEMENT.
10:48:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM HAPPY FOR THAT AS A FRIENDLY
10:48:06 AMENDMENT AND ACCEPT IT PENDING THE SECOND; HOWEVER, I
10:48:10 DON'T WANT TO DELAY THE ADVERTISING AND SEARCH.
10:48:16 WE HAVE DELAYED IT LONG ENOUGH.
10:48:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF BENNETT.
10:48:21 >> WHAT I AM HOPING SINCE WE WILL BRING BACK THE
10:48:24 FEEDBACK THROUGH THE ORIGINAL FEEDBACK PROCESS THAT
10:48:27 MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT CONCURRENTLY AND GET CLOSE TO THAT
10:48:32 LANGUAGE SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN THEIR PRESCRIPTED,
10:48:34 WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN THE SOLICITATION.
10:48:37 THAT WAY SOMEBODY IS NOT COMING HERE AND SURPRISE --
10:48:40 ANYBODY BEING RECRUITED WILL LOOK AT THE SERVICE LEVEL
10:48:40 AGREEMENT.
10:48:43 THAT WILL BE PART OF THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
10:48:47 WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM -- HIM OR HER A MOVING
10:48:47 TARGET.
10:48:50 IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING CLOSE AND MAKE SURE THE SQUIRT
10:48:55 OF THAT IS IN THE -- THE SPIRIT OF THAT IS THE SPIRIT
10:48:56 OF THE SOLICITATION.
10:48:59 IF THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT THEY WILL KNOW WHY WE ARE
10:49:02 MOVING TOGETHER ANYWAY.
10:49:05 >> JIM, DO YOU NEED THE MOTION TO BE RESTATED?
10:49:08 >> I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENTS WERE CLEARLY STATED.
10:49:11 I WILL INCLUDE THEM IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
10:49:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF BENNETT, YOU NEED THE OKAY TO GO
10:49:16 FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS OF THE TIRING?
10:49:19 >> WE WILL STARTING TO IMPACT THE BUDGET.
10:49:21 OTHER THAN MAKING SURE YOU HAVE SEEN THE DRAFT
10:49:25 ANNOUNCEMENT, GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK ON THE EDITS.
10:49:27 I WOULD LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING SO
10:49:29 WE CAN START MOVING FORWARD.
10:49:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE THAT INCLUDED IN THE
10:49:31 MOTION?
10:49:32 >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:49:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:49:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:49:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:49:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:49:44 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:46 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:49:49 OPPOSED.
10:49:50 MOTION PASSES.
10:49:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU CHIEF BENNETT ON YOUR HARD
10:50:00 WORK AND THANK THE MAYOR ON THIS.
10:50:01 >> I'LL BE TURNING OVER THE REST OF THE AGENDA TO OUR
10:50:03 FANTASTIC STAFF.
10:50:05 BECAUSE I WILL BE WORKING ON OTHER THINGS.
10:50:07 BUT I AM ONLY A TEXT MESSAGE AWAY.
10:50:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
10:50:16 ITEM AGENDA NUMBER ONE.
10:50:26 MONTHLY REPORT FROM THE CACS.
10:50:29 >> MALCOLM, CITY STAFF.
10:50:33 A REPORT FROM YBOR, AND HE HAD TO TAKE OFF.
10:50:38 SO COURTNEY WILL COVER THE YBOR UPDATE.
10:50:42 CAN WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO?
10:50:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WANT TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO?
10:50:45 >> YES.
10:50:50 CAN WE HAVE THE POWERPOINT?
10:50:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COURTNEY IS BEHIND YOU.
10:50:55 YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE ITEM ONE?
10:51:07 >> SHE WILL PROVIDE HER UPDATE WHEN WE ALL --
10:51:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE GOT TO VOTE.
10:51:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES PLEASE.
10:51:14 I APOLOGIZE.
10:59:46 SCYTHE MALCOLM, PLEASE PROCEED -- I'M SORRY, ROLL
10:59:51 CALL PLEASE.
10:59:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:59:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:59:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
11:00:01 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
11:00:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
11:00:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MALCOLM, PROCEED.
11:00:08 >> CAN I HAVE THE POWERPOINT.
11:00:12 WE WILL GO THROUGH OUR MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT JUST FOR
11:00:13 THOSE WATCHING AT HOME.
11:00:16 WE HAVE APPLICATIONS AVAILABLE WITH OPENINGS ON OUR
11:00:22 CACS AND THESE FOUR RESPECTIVE CRA AREAS IN DREW PARK,
11:00:26 DOWNTOWN, CHANNEL DISTRICT AND TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:00:28 MOVING FORWARD WITH WEST TAMPA AND I WILL BE BRIEF,
11:00:31 WEST TAMPA WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITHIN OUR SUBCOMMITTEES
11:00:36 AS CHAIR OF THE OUR CAC MR. ROBERSON.
11:00:40 WE HAVE AN ISSUE FOR A OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM A
11:00:43 PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR HOUSING DIVISION TO HELP MAKE
11:00:46 IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR OF HOMES WITHIN WEST
11:00:47 TAMPA.
11:00:50 OUR SPECIAL EVENT SUBCOMMITTEE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT
11:00:54 APPLICATIONS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA
11:00:55 CRAS.
11:00:58 THEY ARE LOOKING AT CONCEPTS FOR NEWSLETTER THAT WE
11:01:00 WILL BE PRODUCING IN THE NEW YEAR.
11:01:04 OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SUBCOMMITTEE IS TAKING ON THE HEAVY
11:01:08 LIFT OF LOOKING AT THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AND WORKING
11:01:12 ON MAKING THAT LONG KIND OF NOT SO GRAY AND THAT IS
11:01:18 COMING BEFORE OUR BODY AS WELL AS OUR PROGRAM IS STILL
11:01:20 ACTIVE AND TAKING INFORMATION.
11:01:23 AND A CURRENT GRANT THAT YOU APPROVED LAST MONTH.
11:01:26 JAB ARCHITECTS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON A
11:01:35 FORMER CHURCH ON HOWARD NORTH OF RAY PARK.
11:01:37 MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR ACTIVITY.
11:01:40 A LARGE STORMWATER PROJECT.
11:01:42 CYPRESS CREEK PROJECT.
11:01:46 THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS LAST WEEK CONCERNING
11:01:51 THOSE BUSINESSES IMPACTED ALONG CASS STREET.
11:01:54 A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT THOSE BUSINESS THAT'S REQUIRE
11:01:57 EVERYDAY TRAFFIC ARE STILL OPENING AND FUNCTIONS AND I
11:02:00 WOULD JUST LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THEM AS HOOCH AND HIGH OF,
11:02:05 CASS STREET BARBER LOUNGE AND OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
11:02:08 AND THE WEST TAMPA CRA WILL BE SENDING SOMETHING OUT
11:02:13 VIA OUR DISTRIBUTION TO PROMOTE THOSE BUSINESSES AS
11:02:16 CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ALONG CASS.
11:02:19 IT THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OF
11:02:20 BUILDINGS OF MAIN STREET.
11:02:21 MAIN AND ROME.
11:02:24 YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE BUILDINGS AND HOUSING AUTHORITY
11:02:26 WERE HERE PROVIDING AN UPDATE.
11:02:27 YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
11:02:28 NOTABLE EVENTS.
11:02:32 WE DON'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR NOTABLE EVENTS BUT THANK
11:02:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:39 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO RAY PARK.
11:02:41 REBUILDING TOGETHER TAMPA BAY PROVIDED A GRANT BY
11:02:44 PUBLIC SERVICES, AND THEY DID A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL
11:02:48 RENOVATION OF RAY PARK FOR THE KIDS THERE AND A
11:02:50 FEEL-GOOD EVENT AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND
11:02:55 SUPPORTING THE CENTER.
11:02:59 AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT METROPOLITAN
11:03:03 MINISTRIES HAS BEEN HOSTING THEIR ANNUAL HOLIDAY FOOD
11:03:06 DRIVE WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA BOUNDARY.
11:03:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR -- ARE YOU FINISHED,
11:03:12 MALCOLM.
11:03:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:03:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOME OF THE
11:03:23 DEVELOPMENTS OF THE EAST TAMPA REHAB.
11:03:25 I AM CONCERN -- I WILL TALK TO VANESSA AND MR. SELLING
11:03:26 IN ABOUT IT.
11:03:29 I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE COMING TO MY OFFICE FOR
11:03:29 REJECTIONS.
11:03:33 AND I KNOW THAT MONEY IS TIED -- SOME OF THE CITY MONEY
11:03:36 IS TIED TO FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON AND
11:03:39 PEOPLE ARE BEING REJECTED AND CALLING MY OFFICE ABOUT
11:03:41 IT AND I DON'T KNOW OUR MONEY GOING INTO THE SAME
11:03:43 PROGRAM AS THE CITY.
11:03:46 I SEE REJECTIONS.
11:03:49 SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET TO LEGAL THAT THE MONEY
11:03:52 WE ARE SAYING WANT TO DO REHAB AND BY THE COMMUNITIES,
11:03:54 IF THAT COULD BE IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT WITH A DIFFERENT
11:03:58 CRITERIA BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE REJECTED OF MALL
11:03:58 THINGS.
11:04:03 AND I WANT TO CAUTION AS WELL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OUR
11:04:08 REHAB PROGRAM, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF MESSAGE SO
11:04:10 FOLKS WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN THE GOVERNMENT, I DON'T --
11:04:14 WHO CAN SAY, I WANT TO BE A PART -- BUT I AM AFRAID MY
11:04:16 HOUSE MAY BE TOO BAD.
11:04:21 CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL TAKE MY HOME WITH ALL THESE
11:04:21 FINES.
11:04:22 THIS IS WHAT I HEAR.
11:04:24 THIS IS MY CONCERN FOR ME.
11:04:27 IF THIS IS MY CONCERN FOR CITIZENS AND COMES TO ME AND
11:04:29 RESONATES IN MY MIND.
11:04:30 WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT.
11:04:33 I ASK THAT THE CRA MANAGERS LOOK AT THAT.
11:04:35 LOOKING AT GETTING HOUSING AND IN REFERENCE TO THE
11:04:38 MONEY TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS ANOTHER CRITERIA WE CAN
11:04:42 USE AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF STRATEGY SO THE COMMUNITY
11:04:45 FOLKS WHO NEED HELP KNOW THAT THEIR HOME WILL BE TAKEN
11:04:49 TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM OREN A PART OF THIS NEW
11:04:52 PROGRAM VERSUS THE CITY'S PROGRAM BECAUSE THOSE DOLLARS
11:04:54 ARE TIED AND HINDERING PEOPLE.
11:04:58 IF I GOT A GRANDMA WHO IS 90 YEARS OLD.
11:05:01 SHE MAY HAVE A SMALL LIEN.
11:05:04 YOU ARE ASKING HER FOR ALL THESE DOGGONE DOCUMENTS SHE
11:05:08 CAN'T PRO PRODUCE.
11:05:11 AND I LOVE THE INITIATIVES AND WHEN WE PARTNER.
11:05:14 PARTNER WITH CITY DOLLARS AND PUT OUR MONEY -- THE CITY
11:05:16 ALREADY HAS EXISTING PROGRAMS.
11:05:18 SOMETIMES IT HAMPER WHAT IS WE ARE TRYING TO DO ON THE
11:05:19 SIDE BAR.
11:05:21 WE NEED TO LOOK ON THE SIDE BAR NOT HAMPERING WHAT WE
11:05:25 REALLY WANT TO DO WHICH IS HELP PEOPLE.
11:05:27 >> SO TO RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT, THIS IS THE FIRST OF
11:05:31 MANY -- AT LEAST THE PLAN, THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY
11:05:35 HOME PROJECTS THAT THE WEST TAMPA CRA WILL MOVE FORWARD
11:05:36 WITH.
11:05:40 WE PERSONAL -- I PERSONALLY RECOGNIZE THERE IS A GAP
11:05:44 AND OUR FUNDING IS ATTACHED TO CERTAIN CRITERIA WHERE
11:05:46 THE COMPANY FUNDING MAY NOT BE TIED TO THAT.
11:05:48 REMEMBER WE ARE IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS.
11:05:50 I AM TAKING EVERYTHING THROUGH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND
11:05:51 THEY ARE COOKING IT.
11:05:53 THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS COMING OUT OF THE
11:05:57 WEST TAMPA CRA THAT MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE FOLKS
11:06:00 BEING REJECTED THAT BY PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
11:06:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS MY CONCERN.
11:06:06 ME AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF ON A TWO-HOUR TOUR OF EAST
11:06:07 TAMPA.
11:06:09 LOOK AT THE ASSETS.
11:06:10 LOOK AT THE HOUSE.
11:06:15 WE PUT A COUPLE OF HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS WITH PAINT, HOW
11:06:17 WILL THAT REVITALIZE THAT STREET.
11:06:21 WE LOOK AT GRIDS AND HOW YOU CORNER THE MARKET TO SAY
11:06:26 CAN WE TO DO FIX THIS POCKET HERE OUTSIDE TO IN, AND
11:06:28 NOW WE MA PARTICULAR A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
11:06:31 AND ALL OF THE DILAPIDATED HOMES AND SOME OF THESE
11:06:35 HOMES THAT NEED SOME WORK AND KNOCK ON THESE DOORS AND
11:06:39 HAVE AN OUTSOURCE PERSON TO LOOK AT THOSE GRIDS AND
11:06:41 KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND SAY HOW CAN WE HELP YOU AND THAT
11:06:45 WAY START BEAUTIFYING AND I CALL THAT MIDDLE CLASS, BUT
11:06:49 THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING, AND YOU WILL GET THOSE THINGS
11:06:51 AND CLEAN UP THESE AREAS BEFORE THE OUTSIDE BUSINESS
11:06:53 THAT'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IN OUR
11:06:57 AREAS, BECAUSE THEY JUST WON'T COME BECAUSE THEIR
11:07:00 BOTTOM DOLLAR WILL NOT SURVIVE IF THE MISS IS NOT
11:07:02 LOOKING A DIFFERENT WAY.
11:07:04 >> I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
11:07:05 THAT IS OUR INTENTION.
11:07:08 THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY WITHOUT GETTING INTO THOSE
11:07:11 DETAILS AND WITHOUT REVIEWING IT BEFORE MY CAC
11:07:14 COMMITTEE AND I TALKED TO MY CHAIR ABOUT THIS.
11:07:16 I HAVE SEVERAL IDEAS THAT CAN HELP US, YOU KNOW, KIND
11:07:18 OF CLOSE THAT GAP.
11:07:20 BUT, YES, SIR, WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
11:07:22 MOVING FORWARD IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS.
11:07:25 MOVING FORWARD TO DREW PARK.
11:07:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, MALCOLM, IF I CAN.
11:07:32 HOLIDAY MARKETED.
11:07:32 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:07:34 THIS PAST SUNDAY.
11:07:36 >> WE WELL ATTENDED.
11:07:37 THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THAT.
11:07:38 GREAT TURNOUT.
11:07:47 AND IF I MAY DO A CHEAP PLUG, BAY CANON BURY WAS THE
11:07:49 MAJOR DRIVER ON THAT.
11:07:50 ONLY ONE COMPLAINT.
11:07:52 NO PARKING.
11:07:55 SO IF THAT -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.
11:07:58 >> I LEFT IT OUT -- I LEFT IT OUT OF MY UPDATE.
11:08:01 BUT WE ARE PLANNING THE NEW YEAR TO HAVE A JOINT
11:08:02 SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE
11:08:06 SUBCOMMITTEE AND OUR ECONOMIC SUBCOMMITTEE TO START THE
11:08:07 PARKING DISCUSSION.
11:08:08 BUT IT RELATES TO BOTH.
11:08:12 AND POTENTIALLY OR POSSIBLY A PARKING STUDY COULD COME
11:08:14 OUT OF THAT OR A SCOPE COULD COME OUT OF THAT BUT THAT
11:08:17 WILL BE REVIEWED BEFORE THIS BODY ONCE WE FIGURE OUT
11:08:19 WHICH DIRECTION WE ARE HEADED.
11:08:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:08:21 PLEASE PROCEED.
11:08:22 >> YES, SIR.
11:08:25 MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DREW PARK CRA.
11:08:28 THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD LINEAR PARK
11:08:29 IS FINALLY UNDER WAY.
11:08:33 THEY BROKE GROUND AROUND TWO, TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
11:08:37 THIS IS IN LINE WITH OUR STREETSCAPE AND BEAUTIFICATION
11:08:38 MASTER PLAN.
11:08:40 WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE PROFESSIONAL
11:08:44 SERVICES FIRM TO NEGOTIATE A FINAL SCOPE AND PRICE FOR
11:08:47 THE UPDATE OF OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
11:08:51 ONCE STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE BE TAKING THAT
11:08:57 TO THE CAC AND FOR THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL.
11:09:01 OUR FENCE GRANT PROGRAM IS ACTIVE.
11:09:02 AND WE ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS.
11:09:05 AS FOR INDIRECT ACTIVITIES AS ANNOUNCED AT THE LAST
11:09:08 COUPLE OF MEETINGS, HCC HAVE COMPLETED THEIR NEW
11:09:12 FACILITY AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION OF THE RENOVATION OF A
11:09:14 PARKING LOT ON THE WEST SIDE RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF
11:09:17 TAMPA BAY AND DALE MABRY.
11:09:20 THE STADIUM CENTER PROJECT WHICH IS A LARGE-SCALE
11:09:23 PROJECT ON DALE MABRY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
11:09:26 ON A SMALLER NOTE WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE ARE
11:09:29 SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW MULTIPLEX.
11:09:34 THE SECOND MULTIPLEX WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA.
11:09:37 PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE AREA AND WORKING ON
11:09:37 PROJECTS.
11:09:42 AS FOR NOTABLE EVENTS, THE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD
11:09:46 UNIVERSITY HELD ITS SESSION LAST MONTH AT THE
11:09:49 HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE CAMPUS AND WE WENT ON
11:09:51 DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
11:09:54 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:09:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:09:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:10:01 MR. CONNOR, I HAVE A QUESTION.
11:10:04 LOOK LIKE IN WEST TAMPA, YOU ARE ENTERING INTO
11:10:07 CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF ABOUT -- CITY HOUSING
11:10:13 STAFF OF POSSIBLY DEVELOPING A REHAB PROGRAM I GUESS
11:10:16 SIMILAR -- TO WHAT WE ARE DOING IN EAST TAMPA WITH A
11:10:18 SMALL GRANT PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE TO FIX UP THEIR HOMES.
11:10:22 AS I DRIVE THROUGH DREW PARK, I KNOW WE HAVE IDENTIFIED
11:10:26 AND TRYING TO PROTECT A SMALL RELATION AREA IN DREW
11:10:29 PARK, AND I NOTICED SOME OF THOSE HOMES COULD, PERHAPS,
11:10:32 BENEFIT FROM THE SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM.
11:10:35 SO I AM NOT MAKING A MOTION OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST TO
11:10:38 PERHAPS SUGGEST OR MAYBE IT IS ALREADY IN YOUR THOUGHT
11:10:43 PROCESS WHEN YOU ARE FINISHING UP WEST TAMPA TO LOOK AT
11:10:45 DREW PARK FOR A SIMILAR TYPE PROGRAM.
11:10:46 >> ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
11:10:50 WE HAD A LARGE PORTION OF THE HOMES ARE RENTAL --
11:10:55 RENTAL DRIVEN, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF -- I
11:10:58 THINK OUR PROCESS IS TO UPDATE OUR SAP AND IDENTIFY
11:11:02 THAT AS A PRIORITY IN OUR UPDATED SAP, AND COME BACK
11:11:04 WITH PROGRAMS AND ACTIONS FOR TO YOU DECIDE.
11:11:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE EVEN AN
11:11:09 OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME OF THEM CONVERTED FROM RENTAL
11:11:14 BACK TO HOMEOWNERSHIP IF PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY BUY ONE
11:11:17 THOSE HOMES THEY COULD POSSIBLY GET IN A PROGRAM TO
11:11:21 HELP FIX IT UP WITH CITY HELP OR CRA HELP.
11:11:24 >> AS I SHARED WITH YOU ALL, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THREE
11:11:27 OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, WE HAVE CONTROL.
11:11:31 THE CRA HAS CONTROL OF THREE ACHES IN DREW PARK THAT IS
11:11:32 ZONED RELATION.
11:11:36 THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR US -- ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
11:11:39 AND THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR US WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CRA
11:11:40 CAN HELP.
11:11:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LARGE PARCELS?
11:11:46 >> WE HAVE ONE LARGE PARCEL AND TWO INDIVIDUAL PARCELS.
11:11:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INTERESTING.
11:11:49 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:11:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:11:55 MALCOLM, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT.
11:11:58 >> NO, YBOR IS NEXT.
11:12:04 COURTNEY SCYTHE TAKE CARE OF ONE AND THREE?
11:12:06 >>COURTNEY ORR: YES, I WILL.
11:12:08 OUR CHAIRMAN HAD TO LEAVE.
11:12:09 HE APOLOGIZES.
11:12:15 >> START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE FIRST.
11:12:19 >>COURTNEY ORR: IF WE CAN COMBINE THEM, IT WRAPPING IN
11:12:25 TOGETHER.
11:12:36 THE FIRST ITEM I WASN'T AWARE IF -- IF YOU KNEW THAT WE
11:12:39 GIVE PROFESSIONAL WALKING TOURS TO ORGANIZATIONS.
11:12:44 SO THROUGH OUR OFFICE, WE PROVIDE INFORMATION ON YBOR
11:12:45 CITY.
11:12:47 WE GET EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL
11:12:52 ORGANIZATIONS ARE INTERESTED IN THE HISTORY OF YBOR
11:12:55 CITY AND WE OFTEN GIVE THOSE TOURS THROUGH OUR OFFICE
11:13:00 AND WE ACCOMMODATED TWO THIS THANKS MONTH IN NOVEMBER.
11:13:03 STAFF WHO IS PARTICIPATING ON THE MAYOR STAFF ADVISORY
11:13:06 PRIDE OF PLACE SUBCOMMITTEE.
11:13:08 IF YOU WERE UNAWARE, FOUR GROUPS IDENTIFIED BY THE
11:13:11 MAYOR FOR THE STAFF TO PARTICIPATE AND TO BECOME
11:13:14 ENGAGED AND MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AND SEGMENTS OF OUR
11:13:16 AREAS.
11:13:20 AND THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FOUR.
11:13:24 PRIDE OF PLACE, EMPLOYEE EMPOWERMENT, EMPLOYEE
11:13:28 ENGAGEMENT AND OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES.
11:13:30 I AM PARTICIPATING IN PRIDE OF PLACE.
11:13:32 SATISFACTION WITH THE QUALITY OF THE WORK SPACES AND
11:13:34 THE COMMON AREAS IN AND AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:13:37 FACILITIES.
11:13:41 NEXT IS A LIST -- A BULLETED LIST OF THE ITEMS EXECUTED
11:13:46 BY STAFF, THE YCDC STAFF.
11:13:49 CONSISTENTLY WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
11:13:54 AESTHETICS TO YBOR AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED OR
11:13:58 ARE UNDER WAY.
11:14:03 WE HAD A YCDC BOARD MEETING IN NOVEMBER, AND SOME OF
11:14:06 THOSE HIGHLIGHTED ITEMS INCLUDE THE APPROVAL OF THE
11:14:11 LETTER THAT IS IN RESPONSE TO CRA'S IDEA TO INCREASE
11:14:15 FACADE GRANT FUNDING FOR HISTORIC STRUCTURES WHICH IS
11:14:19 ITEM NUMBER 3 ON THE AGENDA.
11:14:24 INTRODUCTION OF THE CRA OF TIF DOLLARS FOR AFFORDABLE
11:14:27 HOUSING.
11:14:33 AND PRESENTATION OF THE VISION TAMPA STREETCAR.
11:14:36 IN THE YCDC PLANNING INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT
11:14:38 COMMITTEE, HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT MEETING IN NOVEMBER
11:14:44 INCLUDE THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED HISTORIC FACADE
11:14:48 GRANT FROM 24 WAITING PERIOD TO 12 MONTH.
11:14:53 AND A PRESENTATION GIVEN BY A GENTLEMAN WHO IS
11:14:57 SUGGESTING A HOSTEL BE PUT INTO YBOR CITY DIRECTLY ON
11:14:58 SEVENTH AVENUE.
11:15:02 IT IS AT THE LOCATION WHERE THE POPULAR MURAL IS WHERE
11:15:03 LEI LOTS OF PHOTOS ARE TAKEN.
11:15:07 THAT WOULD BE A GREAT INFILL PROJECT AND BRING A LOT OF
11:15:12 PRIMARILY YOUTH TO YBOR CITY AND FOR THAT HOSTEL
11:15:13 PROJECT.
11:15:17 WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE CITY'S REHABILITATION HOUSING
11:15:19 PROGRAM AND THE POSSIBLE FUNDING THAT YBOR COULD GIVE
11:15:25 TOWARD -- TOWARD THAT HOUSING PROGRAM.
11:15:32 AND -- SCYTHE EXCUSE ME, PLEASE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:15:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVE ME MORE A DESCRIPTION OF THE
11:15:36 HOSTEL?
11:15:38 >>COURTNEY ORR: I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WAS SENT TO
11:15:41 ME HE PROVIDED TO THE GROUP AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED,
11:15:43 I CAN FORWARD THAT PRESENTATION DIRECTLY TO THE
11:15:45 COUNCIL.
11:15:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT IS A HOSTEL?
11:15:52 >>COURTNEY ORR: IT IS VERY POPULAR.
11:15:54 THERE ARE HOSTELS IN THE U.S.
11:15:56 BUT IN EUROPE IT IS VERY COMMON.
11:15:59 YOU GET SOMETIMES A SHARED SPACE.
11:16:02 NOT OFTEN A PRIVATE ROOM BUT SHARED SPACE AMONG OTHER
11:16:04 BACKPACKERS.
11:16:08 I STAYED AT MANY WHEN I WAS BACKPACKING AT EUROPE, YOU
11:16:12 CAN EITHER GET A ONE HUGE ROOM OF 300 BEDS AND OFF
11:16:15 PRIVATE LOCKER AND IT IS A VERY REDUCED RATE BECAUSE
11:16:17 MOST OF THE BACKPACKERS ARE YOUNG.
11:16:20 SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR VERY AFFORDABLE PLACES AS THEY
11:16:21 MOVE AROUND THE COUNTRY.
11:16:25 AND SO, FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD PROBABLY PAY IN THE
11:16:30 BALLPARK OF $15 A NIGHT IN VENICE.
11:16:34 I STAYED IN VENICE IN A HOSTEL.
11:16:36 YOU HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO TO A LOT OF GREAT
11:16:38 PLACES AND DO SO AFFORDABLY.
11:16:42 AND THE HOSTEL IN YBOR CITY WOULD BE THE SAME PREMISE
11:16:46 WHICH IS A VERY LOW COST WAY OF VISITING YBOR CITY AND
11:16:51 WALKING AND VISITING TAMPA ALL OVER.
11:17:00 I SEE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, JOE -- I THINK THE
11:17:03 GENERAL MIND SET OF THE BACKPACKER.
11:17:05 THEY KNOW -- I THINK EVERYONE RESPECTS THEIR SPACE.
11:17:09 I NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES, NO SECURITY ISSUE.
11:17:13 LOCKERS WERE ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR BACKPACK.
11:17:17 JUST A -- JUST A VERY COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TRAVEL.
11:17:20 SCYTHE I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS GOING TO SAY THE
11:17:20 SAME THING.
11:17:23 WHEN YOU ARE TRAVELING AND BACKPACKING AND YOU JUST
11:17:27 NEED A CHEAP FLIES CRASH IN BETWEEN TRAVELING AND
11:17:31 EXPLORING AND HAVING A FEW BEERS, AND YOU JUST WANT TO
11:17:34 CRASH SOMEWHERE, THERE IS -- I DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY.
11:17:37 YOU WANT A CHEAPER PLACE TO SPEND THE NIGHT.
11:17:41 THAT IS WHAT A HOSTEL IS, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
11:17:44 >> THERE IS ONE -- WHAT IT ALL GRAHAM'S PLACE?
11:17:46 YOU SHOULD GO VISIT IT.
11:17:47 IT IS PRETTY COOL.
11:17:51 COULD YOU HANG OUT -- IT IS IN, LIKE, WEST TAMPA.
11:17:55 BUT -- BUT -- I HAVE STAYED IN BACKPACKER PLACES FOR A
11:17:56 LONG TIME.
11:17:59 AND IT IS A CHEAP PLACE TO -- A CHEAP PLACE TO GO, BUT
11:18:02 ALSO A PLACE TO MEET INTERNATIONAL PEOPLE AND ADDS A
11:18:04 INTERNATIONAL FLAVOR ENVIRONMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
11:18:08 AND THE OTHER THING IS IS THAT -- IS THAT THINK OF
11:18:10 PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAVELING ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THEY GO
11:18:12 BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRIES.
11:18:14 IF THEY HAD A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE HERE, THEY WILL
11:18:16 REMEMBER THAT.
11:18:19 YEARS LATER -- I STAYED IN TOUCH WITH THEM -- THEY HAVE
11:18:21 BEEN SENIOR LEVEL OFFICIALS IN BIG COMPANIES AND YOU
11:18:24 NEVER KNOW IF THEY HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE HERE,
11:18:28 THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO BUSINESS HERE IN SOME WAY.
11:18:31 AS LONG AS IT IS KEPT UP IN CODE, IT IS A GREAT
11:18:32 OPPORTUNITY TO BRING PEOPLE HERE.
11:18:35 >>COURTNEY ORR: THE GOOD NEWS IS, HE IS USING A LOCAL
11:18:39 COMPANY -- HE IS RESEARCHING WITH A LOCAL COMPANY HOW
11:18:40 THIS BUILD THE SPACE OUT.
11:18:43 THE CONTAINER -- THE CONTAINER CONCEPT, BUT HAVE THE
11:18:45 FACADE OF A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
11:18:49 SO HE IS WORKING WITH THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
11:18:51 UP TO 75 BEDS.
11:18:54 AND I THINK HIS PRICE POINT WAS UNDER $30.
11:18:58 HE IS WORKING WITH VERY SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE IN THIS
11:18:58 INDUSTRY.
11:19:03 A GENTLEMAN UP NORTH THAT HE CONNECTED WITH THAT -- HE
11:19:06 ALWAYS WANTED TO PUT A HOSTEL IN YBOR CITY AND HE IS
11:19:08 SUPPORTING HIM WITH HIS EXPERTISE.
11:19:09 WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
11:19:14 AND I WILL FORWARD THAT PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL.
11:19:17 LET'S SEE.
11:19:21 SO AT THE NOVEMBER PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION
11:19:23 SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DISTRICT
11:19:27 SAFETY SINCE THERE IS SO MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON IN YBOR
11:19:31 CITY NOW, NEW OFFICES, NEW RESTAURANTS, A LOT OF
11:19:32 INFUSION OF ACTIVITY.
11:19:37 SO WE ARE JUST STAYING CLOSELY CONNECTED TO T PD AND
11:19:42 THERE IS ACTUALLY A SUGGESTED OR A PROPOSED SECURITY
11:19:45 GUARD BIKE PATROL PILOT PROGRAM THAT CAN BE INITIATED
11:19:47 THROUGH OUR PARKING DIVISION.
11:19:51 AND THIS WILL HELP PUT EYES AND EARS ON THE STREET
11:19:53 THROUGH A BIKING PATROL.
11:19:57 WOULDN'T BE TPD BUT OUR ALLIED SECURITY WE ALREADY HAVE
11:20:06 HIRED UP FOR THE GARAGES AND SOME OF THE SURFACE LOTS.
11:20:08 SOMETHING THAT CAME UP FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER
11:20:12 COUPLE OF YEARS ACTUALLY THAT THE EMPLOYEE PARKING
11:20:15 PROGRAM WAS SOMETHING THAT EMPLOYEES WERE REQUESTING
11:20:22 THAT ONE OF THE PRIVATE GAVE TO THE EMPLOYEES A
11:20:23 DISCOUNTED AMOUNT.
11:20:26 EVOLUTION PARKING SYSTEMS CAME TO THE TABLE WITH A
11:20:31 RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
11:20:33 AND WE WILL RELEASE THAT PRESS RELEASE TODAY AND
11:20:38 TOMORROW AND FOUR LOTS THAT EVOLUTION PARKING HAS
11:20:41 IDENTIFIED THAT EMPLOYEES WILL PAY $40 TODAY 50 A
11:20:41 MONTH.
11:20:44 A LITTLE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES
11:20:50 THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PARK, AND GIVE THAT REDUCTION IN
11:20:59 PARKING FEES -- GIVE A RELIEF TO THE WORKERS IN YBOR.
11:21:04 WE DID CONDUCT A YCDC BOARD MEMBER ORIENTATION.
11:21:05 THAT WAS WELL RECEIVED.
11:21:08 A GOOD INSIGHT TO LET ALL OF THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS
11:21:10 UNDERSTAND HOW WE OPERATE.
11:21:13 HOW WE WORK WITH CRA BOARD AND ALL THE DIFFERENCE
11:21:21 ADMINISTRATION TASKS THAT THE YCDC STAFF HANDLE.
11:21:25 WE ALWAYS ARE CONNECTED WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS
11:21:26 DEPARTMENT.
11:21:29 WE REGULARLY ATTEND THE ORGANIZATION MEETINGS.
11:21:32 EVENTS ARE WELL UNDER WAY AS YOU KNOW SINCE THE TREE
11:21:37 LIGHTING IN NOVEMBER, AND COUPLE OF THE UPCOMING IN
11:21:37 2020.
11:21:40 THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION MEETING ON THE -- ON THE
11:21:45 NIGHT PARADE, AND ALSO THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE.
11:21:50 WE WILL BE IN FULL SWING WITH EVENTS UP THROUGH MAY.
11:21:53 STAFF HAS -- IS PARTICIPATING WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:21:54 ADMINISTRATION.
11:21:57 AN RFP THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED.
11:22:02 A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON PROPERTY ON YBOR CITY,
11:22:06 AND THEY ARE WANTING TO HAVE A DEVELOPER RECOMMEND OR
11:22:11 PROPOSE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HOUSE THE
11:22:13 ENTREPRENEUR COLLABORATIVE CENTER, THE SHERIFF TRAINING
11:22:17 CENTER, THE HISTORY AND GENEALOGY LIBRARY CENTER, AND
11:22:21 STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BE
11:22:22 INCORPORATED INTO THAT.
11:22:24 THREE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS SITTING AS TECHNICAL
11:22:27 ADVISORS WHETHER OR NOT THOSE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT
11:22:31 CAME IN ARE ACTUALLY VIABLE BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY
11:22:34 COMMISSION REVIEW THEM.
11:22:38 STAN TECH HAS BEEN HIRED BY THE TRANSPORTATION
11:22:41 DEPARTMENT TO BE ON A FAST TRACK FOR A MICROMOBILITY
11:22:43 MASTER PLAN.
11:22:48 WE MET WITH STAN TECH TO PROVIDE OUR INSIGHTS FROM AN
11:22:52 YBOR PERSPECTIVE ON THE INITIATIVES AND THE TASKS OF
11:22:55 THAT PLAN.
11:23:00 AND GREAT NEWS ABOUT CENTROYBOR.
11:23:01 IT IS OFFICIAL NOW.
11:23:06 IT HAD BEEN UNDER WRAPS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT
11:23:09 CO-WORK SPACE WILL BE A NEW TENANT IN THE FORMER
11:23:11 MOVIECO SPACE.
11:23:13 ALL THOSE RENOVATIONS ARE OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.
11:23:18 ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE EXTRACTED FROM THE FORMER MOVIE
11:23:27 SPACE AND WE ANTICIPATE INDUSTRIOUS OPENING IN THE
11:23:31 QUARTER OF 2020 AND 09 RIDS WHO CAN RENT THOSE CO-WORK
11:23:31 SPACES.
11:23:34 AND THE LAST ITEM YOU ALREADY APPROVED.
11:23:35 THANK YOU.
11:23:40 WHICH IS THE YBOR CITY VISION 2020 PLAN.
11:23:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:23:43 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:23:45 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF TOO SOON.
11:23:46 >> THE TREE LIGHTING.
11:23:50 WE HAD THE TREE LIGHTING IN NOVEMBER.
11:23:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHICH WAS WONDERFUL.
11:23:53 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUESTIONS.
11:23:59 YOU MENTIONED INDUSTRIOUS AND ALL THE OTHER EMPLOYEES
11:24:00 MOVING INTO YBOR.
11:24:02 WHEN IS THE PERCEPTION THAT YOU WILL RUN OUT OF PARKING
11:24:03 IN YBOR.
11:24:05 IS IT GETTING CLOSE.
11:24:07 >>COURTNEY ORR: IT'S GETTING TIGHT.
11:24:13 YEAH, AND I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW WHAT THE FINAL
11:24:18 AGREEMENT WITH PARKING WITH INDUSTRIOUS BECAUSE SO MANY
11:24:19 PEOPLE COMING INTO THAT SPACE.
11:24:23 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IT WAS WITH THAT.
11:24:26 >> WE ARE UNDER PRESSURE FOR ACTIVISTS IN THE COMMUNITY
11:24:31 AND URBAN PLANNERS TO REDUCE PROPERTY, BUT IN YBOR, ALL
11:24:36 THESE HIGH-TECH WORKERS AND NOT ALL LIVE IN YBOR AND NO
11:24:38 MASS TRANSIT OTHER THAN THE TROLLEY REALLY.
11:24:40 ANYWAY, AN INTERESTING PROBLEM TO HAVE.
11:24:42 YBOR IS CHANGING SO MUCH NOW.
11:24:44 MY OTHER QUESTION.
11:24:46 YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN THE
11:24:50 YCDC MEETING I ATTENDED A FEW MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS --
11:24:53 AT LEAST FROM INDIVIDUALS STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE NEW
11:24:56 EXIT OFF I-4.
11:25:00 AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND IN ONE OF OUR
11:25:04 RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH THE FDOT.
11:25:08 HAS YOUR GROUP TAKEN OFFICIAL STANCE OR THE YBOR
11:25:10 CHAMBER TAKING AN OFFICIAL STANCE.
11:25:12 THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN YBOR AGAINST IT OR IN FAVOR
11:25:14 OF IT.
11:25:15 WHERE DOES THAT STAND?
11:25:19 >>COURTNEY ORR: THEY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.
11:25:21 THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN AN OFFICIAL STANCE BUT THEY ARE
11:25:23 DEFINITELY NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.
11:25:26 AT THE JANUARY BOARD MEETING WE WILL BE PRESENTING
11:25:29 AGAIN BASED ON THE CONCERNS; HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THE
11:25:32 TRAIN LEFT THE STATION, SO TO SPEAK, ABOUT SEVERAL
11:25:34 YEARS AGO.
11:25:35 AND --
11:25:38 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO BE MINDFUL AS MY COLLEAGUES
11:25:42 COUNCILMAN CITRO O SAID.
11:25:44 IF THE COMMUNITY OPPOSES IT -- WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP TO
11:25:48 FDOT THEY SAID THE PUBLIC DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
11:25:50 IF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS AND THEY ARE STILL AGAINST
11:25:51 IT.
11:25:54 I INDIVIDUALLY ANYWAY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM WHATEVER
11:25:56 GROUP IS AGAINST IT AND SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION
11:25:58 WHETHER TO PASS SOME RESOLUTION AS WELL.
11:26:03 IT MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT BUT AT LEAST WE CAN TRY.
11:26:07 >> DUE TO THE FACTOR THIS PRESENTING JANUARY ASK FOR A
11:26:11 MOTION OR PERHAPS A LETTER TO BE DRAFTED.
11:26:13 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
11:26:17 SENSITIVE TO WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING.
11:26:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:26:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIMES I DRIVE DOWN YBOR FRIDAY
11:26:25 AND SATURDAY NIGHTS TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE
11:26:25 DISTRICT.
11:26:29 AND I WONDER ABOUT THE PARKING LOT.
11:26:33 I SEE THESE ASTRONOMICAL PRICES FOR PARKING.
11:26:35 THEY ARE VERY, VERY HIGH.
11:26:38 >>COURTNEY ORR: YEAH, WE HAVE THREE SURFACE LOTS AND
11:26:40 THE TWO PARKING GARAGES THAT THE CITY OWNS AND
11:26:41 OPERATES.
11:26:45 SO WE ARE UNDER THE CITY PRICING SYSTEM, WHICH IS FAIR.
11:26:50 AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL PRIVATE OPERATORS THAT CAN
11:26:52 PRICE HOWEVER THEY LIKE.
11:26:55 AND CAN CHANGE IT ON AN HOURLY BASIS IF THEY WOULD
11:26:56 LIKE.
11:26:59 IT IS TOTALLY UP TO HOW THEY ARE OPERATING THEIR
11:27:00 PARKING LOTS.
11:27:05 AND THAT IS WHY EVOLUTION PARKING SYSTEMS WAS SO GOOD
11:27:08 TO COME FORWARD WITH A EMPLOYEE PARKING PROGRAM AT A
11:27:09 DISCOUNTED RATE.
11:27:13 THE EMPLOYEES WERE GETTING PRICED OUT OF WORKING, AND
11:27:15 THE COST OF PARKING.
11:27:18 SO THIS IS A BRAND-NEW PROGRAM THAT WILL ROLL OUT
11:27:22 MEASLY, AND WE -- IMMEDIATELY, AND WE APPRECIATE
11:27:25 EVOLUTION PARKING OFFERING A DISCOUNT TO THE EMPLOYEES.
11:27:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONCERNS ME OF THESE PRICES, IT
11:27:29 REALLY DOES.
11:27:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THREE ADMINISTRATIONS BACK THEY HAD
11:27:35 AN IDEA WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE AND TALKED TO
11:27:38 US OF BUILDING ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE ON THE EAST SIDE
11:27:40 OF 22ND RIGHT THROUGH THAT AREA.
11:27:42 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE SAME LOCATION.
11:27:46 I KNOW WE HAVE ONE IN THE MIDST AND ONE SOUTH OF THE
11:27:50 RIGHTS THEATRE AND ONE ON 14TH AND WHATEVER STREET IT
11:27:51 IS.
11:27:54 9TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:27:56 >>COURTNEY ORR: YEAH, STILL THAT.
11:27:58 THAT IS PART OF THE VISION PLAN.
11:28:02 A NEED AND A WANT ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF YBOR CITY.
11:28:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION.
11:28:06 >>COURTNEY ORR: IT IS STILL IN THE SPRIGS PLAN.
11:28:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARKING IS AN ISSUE ALL OVER THE
11:28:10 CITY EVEN IN DOWNTOWN.
11:28:12 SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THESE BUILDINGS OF
11:28:15 DOWNTOWN, EVERYBODY THINKS THAT THEY ARE FILTHY RICH.
11:28:15 THEY ARE NOT.
11:28:20 BUT THE PARKING AREA -- THE CITY IS REASONABLE BUT THE
11:28:22 OTHERS NOT SO REASONABLE.
11:28:24 >>COURTNEY ORR: RIGHT, RIGHT, THE STREETCARS HAVE BEEN
11:28:25 HELPING QUITE A BIT.
11:28:28 THE FREE TRANSPORTATION ON THE STREETCARS IS DEFINITELY
11:28:30 HELPING US.
11:28:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
11:28:36 I HAVE ONE.
11:28:39 MISS KOREAN.
11:28:42 I OWN HER AN APOLOGY GUY AND I WISH I COULD SEND IT TO
11:28:43 HER FOR ME.
11:28:47 LAST TIME WE HAD CRA MEETING I WAS SO HAPPY TO HAVE ALL
11:28:51 THE AWARDS THAT I WOULD WHILE RECEIVED WHILE I WAS
11:28:55 STILL A MEMBER OF THAT, AND I NEGLECTED MY FAUX PAS WAS
11:28:57 NOT MENTION HER.
11:28:59 SHE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST-WORKING STAFF MEMBERS AND
11:29:04 TELL HER THAT I APOLOGIZE.
11:29:07 >>COURTNEY ORR: I KNOW SHE IS WATCHING.
11:29:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS GREEN I APOLOGIZE.
11:29:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SECOND YOUR MOTION.
11:29:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:17 >>COURTNEY ORR: THANK YOU.
11:29:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROSNER, ARE YOU NEXT?
11:29:21 NO?
11:29:26 ARE WE DROPPING DOWN TO -- GO AHEAD.
11:29:34 >>ED JOHNSON: GOOD MORNING, ED JOHNSON, EAST TAMPA CRA
11:29:34 MANAGER.
11:29:36 GET THE POWERPOINT UP.
11:29:37 HERE WE GO.
11:29:40 AS I DID LAST MONTH'S REPORT.
11:29:46 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN THIS
11:29:53 MONTH WHICH HIGHLIGHTING THE WONDERFUL SERVICES WE DO
11:29:55 TIF FUNDING FOR AND THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT THEY TO DO
11:29:59 ELIMINATE THE BLIGHTED CONDITIONS THAT CONTINUE TO
11:30:03 PERSIST IN OUR AREA AND ARE THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:30:08 ENHANCEMENT TEAM, THE CAC APPROVED FUNDING OF $293,000
11:30:10 FOR THE OPERATION OF THE EAST TAMPA CLEAN TEAM AND
11:30:13 SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.
11:30:19 THE FUNDING IS USED TO SUPPORT FULL FOUR-TIME EMPLOYEE
11:30:22 AND 36 YOUTH EMPLOYED DURING THE SUMMER SCHOOL BREAK.
11:30:26 FUNDING IS ALSO USED TO PURCHASE VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT,
11:30:29 AND UNIFORMS FOR ALL PERSONNEL.
11:30:32 THE CRA BOARD APPROVED THAT FUNDING IN OCTOBER OF THIS
11:30:32 YEAR.
11:30:36 THE FOLLOWING ARE MONTHLY ACT 80S THIS OCCUR WITH THIS
11:30:39 ENHANCEMENT TEAM.
11:30:45 IT'S ALSO -- AS I STATED EARLIER, WE SUPPORT CRA
11:30:47 PERSONNEL AS PART OF THIS TEAM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CITY
11:30:50 OF TAMPA STAFF, ENHANCEMENT STAFF OF SIX ADDITIONAL
11:30:54 PERSONNEL THAT COVER THE EAST TAMPA CRA, AND ALSO WE
11:30:57 HAVE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OFFICERS.
11:31:01 WE HAVE 11 PERSONNEL THAT ARE COVERING THE SEVEN AND A
11:31:03 HALF SQUARE MILES OF THIS CRA.
11:31:08 IN ADDITION, THE MONTHLY REPORT IS REFLECTING THAT THEY
11:31:10 ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY SERVICE WORKERS THAT WERE
11:31:11 ASSISTING.
11:31:16 THEY HAD 50 WORKERS PROVIDING 400 MAN-HOURS.
11:31:19 THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ROUTINE MAINTENANCE COVER 104
11:31:23 SQUARE MILES OF MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND RESIDENTIAL
11:31:26 CORRIDOR WHICH WERE SERVICED BY THESE TEAMS WHICH
11:31:30 INCLUDED NOT LIMITED TO MOWING, EDGING, HERBICIDE
11:31:35 TREATMENT, ABATEMENT, SNIPE SIGN REMOVAL AND MINOR TREE
11:31:35 TRIMMING.
11:31:39 WE SERVE AS A RED BRICK BUS STOP AT THE CORNER OF
11:31:43 COLUMBUS DRIVE AND NEBRASKA.
11:31:52 THE ABATEMENT, -- EXCUSE ME, I TAKE THAT BACK, 1147 AND
11:31:54 A HALF TONS OF DEBRIS WAS REMOVED AND THAT IS COLLECTED
11:32:00 TOURING A ONE-MONTH -- DURING A ONE-MONTH PERIOD.
11:32:03 NORTH MAIN STREET BETWEEN 28TH AND 29TH.
11:32:08 ALLEYWAY MAINTENANCE BETWEEN 17TH AND CAHUGA AND NOEL.
11:32:13 12TH STREET BETWEEN ELLIOTT -- SHOULD BE ELLICOT AND
11:32:14 NEW ORLEANS.
11:32:19 12TH STREET BETWEEN EMMA AND CAHUGA.
11:32:23 AND PARK IN CON JUNK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
11:32:26 EVERYBODY KNOWS A LOT OF HOMELESS ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS
11:32:28 IN THAT PARK AND A CONSTANT PROBLEM FOR LITTER.
11:32:33 LITTER ABATEMENT ALONG NORTH NEBRASKA FROM I-4 TO
11:32:34 MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
11:32:36 RIGHT AWAY AND BUS STOPS.
11:32:41 SIX CONDEMNED STRUCTURES WERE DEMOLISHED DURING THIS
11:32:41 MONTHLY PERIOD.
11:32:44 THEY ALSO RESPONDED TO 24 SERVICE REQUESTS CONSISTING
11:32:49 OF ILLEGAL DUMPING, GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, TREE CONCERNS,
11:32:52 ALLEYWAYS AND VACANT LOT MAINTENANCE.
11:32:56 THE LAST PIECE OF THAT IS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE FUND AS
11:33:01 PART OF THE -- THE FUNDING THAT COMES OUT OF OUR CRA
11:33:03 FOR THESE FOLKS TO DO THEIR JOB OUT THERE.
11:33:07 YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF EQUIPMENT THAT IT TAKES TO DO
11:33:11 THIS JOB.
11:33:16 NEXT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COVER -- CONTINUING TO
11:33:20 FOLLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:33:24 DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND HOMEBUYER PROGRAM.
11:33:29 FUNDING TO CREATE THE HOME BUYER EDUCATION COURSE.
11:33:32 THE WORKSHOPS ARE SCHEDULED TO BEGIN ON DECEMBER 7,
11:33:33 WHICH THEY HAVE.
11:33:36 AND THEY WILL RUN THROUGH FEBRUARY 22.
11:33:39 THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF SIX WORKSHOPS.
11:33:43 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE HAVE HAD AT THE DECEMBER 7 WORK
11:33:48 SHOP, 25 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS
11:33:54 OPPORTUNITY GO THROUGH HOME BUYERS EDUCATION.
11:33:56 THE NEXT ONE IS THE RFP FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT
11:34:00 CONSENTS FOR VACANT LOTS.
11:34:01 VACANT INFILL PROPERTIES.
11:34:06 AS YOU RECALL WE INVOLVED -- CAC APPROVED AWARDING --
11:34:11 POTENTIALLY AWARDING CONTRACTS FOR DEVELOPMENT -- MIXED
11:34:14 USE DEVELOPMENT ON 26 PROPERTIES AS PART OF THAT RFP.
11:34:19 THAT RFP RAN INTO A SNAG OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.
11:34:24 AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT -- THAT THE CRA WANTED TO
11:34:27 REMOVE SIX OF THOSE PROPERTIES FROM THE TOTAL LIST OF
11:34:28 THE 26.
11:34:33 SEVERAL OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF
11:34:38 THE 26TH -- 26TH AVENUE AND 26TH STREET RETENTION POND
11:34:42 WHICH THEY DETERMINED THEY WANT TO GET A BETTER LOOK AT
11:34:46 THE POSSIBILITY OF UTILIZING THOSE LOTS IN CONJUNCTION
11:34:49 WHAT WAS TO BE DEVELOPED ALONG THAT POND.
11:34:55 IN EFFORT OF FAIRNESS APPROVED CANCELS THE RFP AT THE
11:34:58 TIME AND USE THE PROCESS WE ARE USING RIGHT NOW GETTING
11:35:02 READY TO UPDATE THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN TO ROLL THESE
11:35:04 PROPERTIES AND ALL VACANT PROPERTIES WE HAVE IN OUR
11:35:08 INVENTORY INTO THE STRATEGIC ACTION PROCESS TO
11:35:12 DETERMINE THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF PROPERTIES.
11:35:15 AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE RFQ THAT WAS DONE FOR THE
11:35:18 EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
11:35:22 WE HAVE SELECTED A DEVELOPER -- A CONSULTING
11:35:27 DEVELOPMENT TEAM, GAI CONSULTING GROUP COLLECTED BY THE
11:35:29 CCNA COMMITTEE.
11:35:33 AND WE ARE CURRENTLY MEETING WITH THE GAI FOLKS.
11:35:36 WE MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY TO START TO DEVELOP THE
11:35:40 SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT WE WILL THEN NEGOTIATE INTO A
11:35:43 CONTRACT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE CACS AND
11:35:48 EVENTUALLY TO YOU, THE BOARD.
11:35:51 AND NOTABLE EVENTS.
11:35:55 ONE OF OUR PARTNERS, THE CDC OF TAMPA RECENTLY RECEIVED
11:35:58 A $200,000 FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
11:36:02 GRANT FOR JOB TRAINING AND PLACEMENT IN THE
11:36:04 ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FIELD.
11:36:08 THAT WAS -- THAT RECEIPT HAPPENED ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER
11:36:11 22.
11:36:15 ONE LAST NOTE UNDER THE -- UNDER NOTABLES IS TOMORROW
11:36:20 EVENING IS OUR 12TH ANNUAL EAST TAMPA CHRISTMAS TREE
11:36:24 LIGHTING CEREMONY WHETHER I TAKE PLACE AT 5:30 P.M. AT
11:36:27 YOUNG MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOLS.
11:36:31 SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN ATTEND, AND THE COMMUNITY
11:36:33 WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
11:36:37 SO THAT -- THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
11:36:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:36:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO THINGS.
11:36:44 TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS IN REFERENCE TO A CHRISTMAS TREE
11:36:45 LIGHTING IN EAST TAMPA.
11:36:50 WE HAVE THE EAST TAMPA -- MISS JAMES HAS HER ANNUAL
11:36:53 TREE LIGHTING -- THIS YEAR WE HAVE A CITY OFFICIAL TREE
11:36:58 LIGHTING AT THE ROBERT L. COLE POND.
11:37:00 THOSE TREES HAVE BEEN DELIVERED AND I WENT BY AND THEY
11:37:02 PLUGGED THEM IN TO MAKE SURE IT IS WORKING.
11:37:03 THREE HUGE TREES.
11:37:09 A MARVELOUS EVENT TO ELEVATE AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR
11:37:12 IT WILL BE A WHOLE CONJUNCTION PROJECT WITH THE TREE WE
11:37:16 HAVE JUST PURCHASED FOR THE POND AND MRS. JAMES AND THE
11:37:18 EVENT SHE IS HAVING.
11:37:20 WE WANT TO START OFF THE NEW YEAR 2020 WITH A NEW
11:37:24 ATMOSPHERE, A NEW FEELING OF EAST TAMPA AND A SPIRITUAL
11:37:27 FEELINGS THAT SAYS WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT BEAUTIFIES
11:37:28 OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.
11:37:32 WHEN I DROVE BY THOSE LAST NIGHT AND SAW THE TREES LIT
11:37:35 UP A LITTLE BIT AND TESTING IT.
11:37:39 IT MADE MLK LOOKING TOTALLY, TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
11:37:43 I SEE HIM HERE AND WE ARE ABLE TO SEE THE BIGGER
11:37:47 PICTURE, THE BIGGER VISION, AND THE PARKS AND
11:37:52 RECREATION CREW HAVE WORKED HARD TO DO THINGS AND GET
11:37:55 THAT MOVING WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE AND NEEDED IT TO BE
11:37:58 MOVING AND A GREAT EVENT ON THE 21ST.
11:38:01 BE AT MISS JAMES EVENT TOMORROW TO HELP CELEBRATE THAT
11:38:04 AS WELL, BUT WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE ARE
11:38:06 MOVING TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS.
11:38:09 SECONDLY, I -- PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE ARE
11:38:11 DEMOLISHING HOMES AND THAT.
11:38:14 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT PROGRAM IN REFERENCE OF THE
11:38:15 HOMES BEING DEMOLISHED.
11:38:18 >>ED JOHNSON: I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
11:38:21 IT IS FUNCTION A FUNCTION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OUR
11:38:30 ENVIRONMENTAL DETECTOR PROGRAM AND EXPERIENCED OVER
11:38:33 DECADES NEGLECT IN BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THE STRUCTURES
11:38:39 ARE RESIDENTIAL, BUT A LOT OF ARE COMMERCIAL -- AT ONE
11:38:41 TIME OR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING,
11:38:45 DECAYING IN COMMUNITY FOR DECADES UPON DECADES WITHOUT
11:38:46 ANY ATTENTION.
11:38:50 WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ATTENTION FROM OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT
11:38:53 DEPARTMENT UNTIL RECENTLY FROM THE LEVEL THAT WE REALLY
11:38:55 THINK IS IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THOSE
11:38:58 STRUCTURES OUT YOU HAVE OUR COMMUNITY AND BE ABLE TO
11:39:02 GET THOSE PROPERTIES BACK -- BACK ON THE MARKET AND
11:39:04 BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS.
11:39:08 A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR
11:39:13 EON AND EONS AND EONS AND THE PROPERTIES HAVE BECOME
11:39:16 VERY UNSAFE AND WE HAD OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS
11:39:18 TOWNSHIP THE GAME AND LOOK AT THESE KIND OF STRUCTURES
11:39:22 IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:39:26 TO DATE OVER 100 PROPERTIES DESIGNATED OR DEEMED FOR
11:39:26 DEMOLITION.
11:39:29 DEMOLITION ORDERS ON A MAJORITY OF THOSE.
11:39:34 SO THE PROCESS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
11:39:35 RESIDENTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS.
11:39:38 IF THEY ARE RESIDENTS AMONG THEM.
11:39:41 I CAN TELL THAT YOU 90% OF THEM ARE NOT RESIDENTIAL
11:39:43 PROPERTIES.
11:39:46 THEY ARE STRUCTURE THAT'S NO ONE IS LIVING IN.
11:39:51 THE PROPERTIES HAVE JUST BEEN DECAYING ON-SITE.
11:39:53 SO WE ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THOSE PROPERTIES OUT OF
11:39:54 THE COMMUNITY AND ELIMINATE THE BLIGHT.
11:39:56 THAT IS WHAT OUR ROLE IS.
11:39:59 SO WE STEPPED UP THE GAME THERE.
11:40:02 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WHAT REALLY IS STARTING TO TAKE
11:40:02 PLACE TOO.
11:40:06 ONCE THOSE DEMOLITION ORDERS WERE ISSUED, SOME OF THESE
11:40:09 PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REALIZING THAT THE CITY IS GETTING
11:40:09 SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
11:40:13 SO NOW THEY ARE TAKING THE INITIATIVE AND DEMOLISHING
11:40:16 THE PROPERTIES THEMSELVES AND SAVES US THE COST OF
11:40:16 DOING THAT.
11:40:19 SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THAT TREND CONTINUES, THAT MORE
11:40:23 PEOPLE WILL REALIZE THEY HE NEED TO DO SOMETHING OF
11:40:26 THESE PROPERTIES AND DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO INCUR THE
11:40:28 COSTS AND PASS IT ON TO THEM.
11:40:34 >> DID THE CAC PUT SOME MONEY IN RFP --
11:40:38 >> ALLOCATED $100,000 IN THE CURRENT BUDGET TO BE ABLE
11:40:43 TO ADD RESOURCES TO OUR CODE DEPARTMENT FOR DEMOLITION
11:40:46 PURPOSES FOR OUR PROPERTIES IN EAST TAMPA.
11:40:49 SO IT IS IN ADDITION TO THE CITY RESOURCES WHICH ARE --
11:40:52 WHICH ARE IN THE MILLIONS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
11:40:54 DEMOLISHING THESE KIND OF PROPERTIES.
11:40:56 >> I AM HOPING WITH THE COMPANY YOU HAVE COMING ON
11:41:00 BOARD THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF HOW WE
11:41:04 CAN BE ABLE TO WORK A PLAN OUT TO KEEP MAYBE SOME
11:41:09 ASSETS OR IF THOSE DEMOLISHED, THAT DEMOLISHED PIECE OF
11:41:12 PROPERTY THAT IS SITTING THERE.
11:41:15 HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN TO KEEP THE ASSETS N WITHIN SO
11:41:20 PEOPLE WON'T TALK SO MUCH ABOUT GENTRIFICATION.
11:41:21 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:41:24 OUR JOB IS NOT GENTRIFICATION.
11:41:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND.
11:41:28 ALWAYS PERCEPTION OF THE PEOPLE.
11:41:33 >> THAT WORD GETS THROWN AROUND A LOT, BUT IF YOU LOOK
11:41:36 OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DETECTIVE AND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:41:39 I ENCOURAGE TO YOU GO OUT AND TAKE A RIDE WITH THEM ON
11:41:42 A DAILY BASIS AND SEE THE KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT'S WE
11:41:44 ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT IS THERE.
11:41:47 A LOT OF BRAY GRANTS AND HOMELESS FOLKS ARE LIVING IN
11:41:51 -- VAGRANTS AND HOMELESS FOLKS ARE LIVING IN THOSE
11:41:53 FACILITIES BECAUSE NOBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM
11:41:56 AND THIS IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE MESS THAT HAS BEEN
11:41:58 GOING ON FOR EONS.
11:42:00 I ENCOURAGE TO YOU TAKE A REAL GOOD LOOK AT WHAT IS
11:42:02 GOING ON OUT THERE.
11:42:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.
11:42:11 >> IF I DO, GIVE THANKS TO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.
11:42:17 23RD STREET AND 22ND AVENUE, A ROUNDABOUT AN OBELISK IN
11:42:19 THE MIDDLE OF IT.
11:42:23 AND OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT GOT CREATIVE AND USING THE
11:42:26 LIGHTING STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE, AND MADE A DIFFERENCE
11:42:29 WHAT THE COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE ALONG 22ND STREET FOR THE
11:42:29 HOLIDAYS.
11:42:35 THANK YOU, PAUL AND HIS PEOPLE.
11:42:36 SCYTHE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:42:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:42:41 THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP ON HIS REGULAR WITH US -- I CAN'T
11:42:44 REMEMBER HIS NAME, BUT HE GAVE US HIS THREE-PAGE
11:42:51 DOCUMENT TITLED -- YES, REVEREND DIXON, YES.
11:42:54 GAVE THUS THREE-PAGE DOCUMENT TALKING ABOUT CONCERNS OF
11:43:01 THE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND HE LATCHED ON TO AN
11:43:02 INTERESTING IDEA.
11:43:07 AND I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS ALLUDING TO IT AS WELL
11:43:13 IS IT APPEARS TO ME THAT SOME OF THESE ABANDONED HOMES,
11:43:16 THEY GO INTO DISREPAIR.
11:43:22 THERE ARE OFTENTIMES PROBABLY MULTIPLE HEIRS, YOU KNOW,
11:43:25 BUT NOBODY IS ABLE TO STEP UP TO MAKE THE REPAIRS OR TO
11:43:29 TAKE CONTROL BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS,
11:43:34 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ED, BUT I -- I HAVE SEEN THAT.
11:43:40 AND -- AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE HOUSE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE
11:43:43 IT IS A DANGER OR AN EYESORE SO THE COMMUNITY AND THIS
11:43:46 SORT OF THING, AND FRANKLY, I THINK IF YOU LIVE NEXT
11:43:50 DOOR TO IT OR ON THE SAME BLOCK, YOU ARE PROBABLY HAPPY
11:43:56 THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE AN EMPTY LOT, YOU KNOW, A BETTER
11:43:59 THAN A BROKEN-DOWN HOUSE WHERE HOMELESS PEOPLE MAY
11:44:01 ENCAMP OR WHATEVER.
11:44:03 ALL THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN.
11:44:05 BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE -- THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
11:44:11 THAT IS LEFT IN THE VALUE OF THAT -- OF THAT DIRT THAT
11:44:16 MIGHT GO TO THE FAMILY ULTIMATELY SEEMS TO GET ERASED.
11:44:20 IT GETS ERASED BECAUSE IT GOES INTO FORECLOSURE OR
11:44:26 BECAUSE THE CITY DOES HAVE HEAVY LIENS ON IT AND AGAIN
11:44:27 NOBODY CAN STEP UP.
11:44:31 NONE OF THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS, HEIRS OR WHAT HAVE YOU
11:44:34 CAN STEP UP AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
11:44:38 WHAT REVEREND DIXON ALLUDES TO IN THIS DOCUMENT IS --
11:44:41 AND THEN -- THE GOOD NEWS IS, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE
11:44:45 CITY TAKES CONTROL AND WE TAKE THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE
11:44:48 THE TAXES HAVEN'T BEEN PAID AND THEN EVENTUALLY IT
11:44:51 COMES BACK AND SOMEBODY BUILDS A NEW HOUSE ON IT AND
11:44:53 NEW PEOPLE MOVE IN AND THAT SORT OF THING.
11:44:57 BUT -- WHICH IS ALSO GENERALLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:45:02 BUT THE -- THE DOWN SIDE OF ALL OF THAT IS THAT VERY
11:45:05 SMALL AMOUNT OF EQUITY THAT THE FAMILY OR FAMILY
11:45:09 MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE HAD GETS EXTINGUISHED.
11:45:14 AND THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON FOR YOU NODDING BEHIND --
11:45:15 >> I AM THE EXPERT.
11:45:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:45:24 AND I JUST WISH WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME -- SOME --
11:45:28 SOME CREATIVE LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.
11:45:31 AND I KNOW IT IS NOT A SIMPLE ONE FROM THE LEGAL --
11:45:33 FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, FROM A REAL ESTATE
11:45:36 PERSPECTIVE, FROM ALL THOSE -- ALL THE ABOVE AND I AM
11:45:41 NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER NECESSARILY TODAY, ED, BUT I
11:45:44 DO THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOES TAKE SOME
11:45:47 MONEY OUT OF THE ORIGINAL COMMUNITY, THE ORIGINAL FOLKS
11:45:54 AND THE ORIGINAL FAMILY WHO WERE THERE OFTEN AT NO
11:45:55 FAULT OF THEIR OWN.
11:45:59 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHATEVER THAT EQUITY IS AND
11:46:02 ON THOSE LOTS ARE BECOMING MORE VALUABLE, $30,000,
11:46:06 40,000, $50,000 AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GETS
11:46:10 EXTINGUISHED BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OTHER FACTORS.
11:46:13 >> VERY MUCH SO AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY DIRECT.
11:46:17 THE WHOLE PREMISE WE LOOKED UPON YEARS AGO PARTNERING
11:46:19 WITH OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND HOUSING
11:46:22 REHAB PROGRAM WHERE WE SET ASIDE DOLLARS OUT OF OUR CRA
11:46:23 FOR YEARS.
11:46:26 WE FUNDED COUPLE OF MILLIONS DOLLARS OVER THE LAST
11:46:29 SEVERAL YEARS IN ADDRESSING REHABILITATION OF -- OF
11:46:33 HOUSING FOR ELDERLY -- IT WAS DIRECTED AT OUR ELDERLY
11:46:34 POPULATION.
11:46:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THAT
11:46:39 AND THE PROGRAM WE ARE STARTING ON NOW, BUT THAT
11:46:45 ADDRESSES THE ISSUE THAT GRANDMA IS STILL IN THE HOUSE.
11:46:48 WHAT WE DON'T ADDRESS IS WHEN GRANDMA IS GONE AND THAT
11:46:52 HOUSE HAS BEEN VACANT NOW FOR FIVE OR TEN YEARS AND
11:46:59 BLAH-BLAH-BLAH, CRUMBLING, ETC.
11:47:00 THE NEXT STEP.
11:47:04 I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE THAT MUCH MORE TIME.
11:47:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE?
11:47:09 YES, I AM SORRY, COUNCILMAN.
11:47:09 >> YOU ARE FINE MR. CHAIR.
11:47:12 NOTHING OF MUCH SUBSTANCE.
11:47:15 YOU MENTIONED THE EAST TAMPA -- THE CHRISTMAS TREE
11:47:15 LIGHTING.
11:47:17 JUST WANTED TO SEND MY REGRETS.
11:47:19 IT'S TOMORROW EVENING AT 5:30?
11:47:23 YEAH, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE OUR SENSORY FRIENDLY SANTA
11:47:27 EVENT WITH 200 KIDS AND TOMORROW NIGHT WE WILL BE GIFT
11:47:28 WRAPPING LIKE 200 GIFTS.
11:47:30 SO MY REGRETS FOR THAT.
11:47:34 AND I ALSO WANTED -- COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THE
11:47:37 CHRISTMAS TREE HE ENDEAVORED.
11:47:43 MY HAT OFF TO MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND COUNCILMAN GUDES
11:47:47 MAKING HEADWAY -- YOU ARE MAKING US ALL LOOK BAD --
11:47:48 JUST KIDDING.
11:47:50 REALLY GOOD JOB.
11:47:52 >> WHAT TIME TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE ACTUAL TREE
11:47:53 LIGHTING?
11:47:54 >> 5:30.
11:47:58 5:30 AT YOUNG MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL.
11:47:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHAT TIME THEY THROW THE
11:48:00 SWITCH.
11:48:02 >> THE TIME THEY THROW THE SWITCH.
11:48:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:08 MR. ROSNER.
11:48:13 MR. ROSNER, WHILE THERE YOU ARE YOU ARE GOING TO SKIP
11:48:17 DOWN TO NUMBER FOUR AFTER YOU GIVE YOUR REPORT?
11:48:23 >>ROB ROSNER: IF THAT WORKS FOR YOUR SCHEDULE.
11:48:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WORKS.
11:48:31 >>ROB ROSNER: IF WE CAN HAVE THE ITEM UP.
11:48:37 CAN WE ADVANCE THE SLIDE?
11:48:38 OR I CAN DO THAT.
11:48:41 SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST ITEM
11:48:44 IS NUMBER FOUR AFTER THIS, I WILL JUST REPORT THAT WE
11:48:48 DID HAVE A MEET BEING THAT AND THE CAC DID GET A
11:48:50 PRESENTATION AND PASSED A MOTION.
11:48:55 SO MOVING ON, TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER RENOVATIONS.
11:48:59 AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEXT LEVEL
11:49:03 OF IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE NEW MEETING ROOMS, NEW
11:49:07 SERVICE ELEVATOR, REFURBISHMENT OF THE EXISTING MEETING
11:49:11 ROOMS AND OTHER I IMPROVEMENTS.
11:49:14 WE GIVE A PRESENTATION TO MISS POST AND THE MAYOR AND
11:49:18 CHIEF BENNETT ON WHAT THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS
11:49:18 AGO.
11:49:22 WE WILL BE PASSING THE RFQ THAT WILL BE PUTTING OUT FOR
11:49:28 THE NEXT PHASE TO YOU AND THE CAC SHORTLY THEREFORE.
11:49:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROSNER.
11:49:40 EXCUSE ME MR.
11:49:42 >>ROB ROSNER: IT IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
11:49:46 WE HAD A MEETING ON IT, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND ALL
11:49:48 MY TIME ON IT.
11:49:51 ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA.
11:49:53 CAN WE HAVE THE SLIDE BACK UP?
11:49:54 OKAY, GREAT.
11:49:59 SO WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND US WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
11:50:02 DIRECT ACTIVITIES WHICH IS MADEIRA TAMPA MIXED USE IS
11:50:03 MOVING ALONG.
11:50:06 IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN, THEY HAVE TWO CRANES UP NOW.
11:50:13 AND THE -- THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS GOING ON ON TYLER
11:50:16 AND CASS WITH THE AMOUNT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IS
11:50:22 EXTENSIVE AND WORKING WITH THOSE FOLKS AND THE TYLER
11:50:25 RESIDENTS HAD THEIR GROUNDBREAKING.
11:50:27 I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
11:50:29 BUT WE HAD THE MAYOR THERE FOR THAT.
11:50:31 RIVER WALK PLACE.
11:50:34 THEY HAVE DEMOLISHED THE CAP TRUST BUILDING AND THEY
11:50:36 ARE MOVING ON WITH THAT.
11:50:38 THEY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM OFFICES AND LOOKING AT
11:50:42 REPLACING THOSE FLOORS WITH CONDOMINIUMS AND THEY ARE
11:50:45 STILL GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT THEY ARE STILL ON
11:50:48 TRACK WITH DOING THE FOUNDATIONS.
11:50:51 THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT TOWER WHICH IS ONE THAT WE
11:50:53 ARE RECONSIDERING THE ROADWAYS OVER THERE BY THE
11:50:54 PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
11:50:56 THAT WORK HAS BEEN UNDERWAY.
11:50:59 THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT CROSSES CAME DOWN EARLIER
11:51:01 THIS MONTH.
11:51:03 THERE WAS A LOT OF DOOR NATION BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENTS
11:51:06 TO MAKE SURE -- COORDINATION BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENTS TO
11:51:11 MAKE SURE THINGS WERE SHOT OFF AND SAFE AND READY FOR
11:51:13 THE LIBRARY ANNEX WHICH IS THE NEXT PIECE.
11:51:16 WE ARE VERY CLOSELY WORKING WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS
11:51:20 CENTER NOT TO IMPACT THEIR SCHEDULE AS THIS IS THE
11:51:21 MIDDLE OF THEIR SEASON.
11:51:25 EVERY TUESDAY MORNING WE SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT EVERY
11:51:28 DAY OF THE WEEK FOR EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY SO WE ARE
11:51:30 DOING THE MINIMAL IMPACT TO THEM.
11:51:32 SO MOVING ON.
11:51:36 NOTABLE EVENTS.
11:51:42 WE HAVE THE OPENING OF THE FOURTH ANNUAL WINTER VILLAGE
11:51:45 KICKED OFF BY THE MAYOR AND MR. GUDES.
11:51:46 I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP.
11:51:49 A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
11:51:52 THE CAC SUPPORTED THAT WITH $15,000 AS THEY HAVE IN THE
11:51:53 PAST YEARS.
11:51:56 IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY LONG-TERM, VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT
11:52:02 AND DOES SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY A VERY STRONG WAY.
11:52:03 MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
11:52:04 ANY QUESTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN?
11:52:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SEE NON.
11:52:14 -- I SEE NONE.
11:52:16 >>ROB ROSNER: THE SLIDE BACK PLEASE.
11:52:20 THE DISTRICT-WIDE PROJECTS ARE UNDER WAY.
11:52:23 I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE,
11:52:25 BUT WE HAVE BEEN MEETING EVERY TWO WEEKS OF THE PROCESS
11:52:26 OF THESE.
11:52:30 THE ONE COMING UP MOST NOTE ME IS WE ARE CHANGING THE
11:52:32 PARKING IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO PAID PARKING WITH
11:52:35 OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARKING DIVISION.
11:52:36 THAT IS OUR GOAL FOR DOING THAT.
11:52:38 WE ARE INCORPORATING THOSE CHANGES AND ADDING
11:52:41 APPROXIMATELY 70 MORE PARKING SPACES ON THE STREET JUST
11:52:44 THROUGH THE REDESIGN OF THE STREETS THROUGH A PART OF
11:52:45 THAT PROJECT.
11:52:47 WE WILL BE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING WHICH WE FINALLY
11:52:54 SOLIDIFIED JANUARY 21, 5:30 UNTIL 8:00 AT THE TAMPA BAY
11:52:57 BOARD ROOM AND SENDING ALL THOSE OUT TO THE
11:53:00 STAKEHOLDERS THE FIRST OF THE MONTH FOR NEXT MONTH.
11:53:02 AND WE ARE PREPARING THOSE THINGS NOW FOR THE FLYERS
11:53:07 AND THROUGH OUR PR OUTREACH CONSULTANT.
11:53:10 SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO COME TO THAT MEETING, WE
11:53:14 WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU AND HAVE AS MANY RESIDENTS SO
11:53:16 EVERYBODY CAN BE LEADER AND LEARN ABOUT THE NEW CHANGES
11:53:19 AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT -- I MEAN THE PARKING
11:53:22 DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE CHANGES
11:53:24 AND HOW THIS THEY WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND HOW THEY WILL
11:53:32 EFFECT THE COMMUNITY.
11:53:35 MADISON STREET PARK IS ABOUT 40%.
11:53:37 THAT GOING SMOOTHLY.
11:53:39 THE REMEDIATION WORK IS COMPLETE.
11:53:41 MOST OF IT IS JUST TEST AGENT THIS POINT.
11:53:44 AND ALL THE SHOP DRAWINGS ARE GOING THROUGH AND ALL OF
11:53:47 THEM ARE BEING APPROVED AND DELIVERED TO THE SITE.
11:53:49 AND THEY ARE ON TRACK.
11:53:51 THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO ASK THEM
11:53:57 QUESTIONS IN GENERAL BUT IT IS ON SCHEDULE AS PLANNED.
11:53:59 SPARKMAN WHARF.
11:54:04 I AM SORRY -- MY MISTAKE.
11:54:06 SHOULD NOT BE SPARKMAN WHARF.
11:54:08 SHOULD BE TWIGG STREET.
11:54:09 I APOLOGIZE.
11:54:15 MERCURY ADVISORS WITH KEN STOLEBERG WILL BE PURCHASING
11:54:20 AND HAS RIGHTS ON THE -- SORRY WILLIAMS OIL SITE AT THE
11:54:23 CORN OF TWIGGS AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
11:54:25 THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR CONTRACT AND ARE DOING THE
11:54:28 DUE DILIGENCE AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE WORKING
11:54:30 WITH THEM ON IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE
11:54:35 TRANSMISSION LINE THAT IS ABOVE AND GET THAT REROUTED.
11:54:38 IN A DANGEROUS SPOT WHERE IT IS IN FRONT OF THEIR
11:54:40 BUILDING AND SO CLOSE TO THE CURB.
11:54:43 WE WILL BE EXPLORING THE COST FOAM THEM.
11:54:44 THAT WILL BE COMING AS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE
11:54:45 FUTURE.
11:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT KIND OF A DEVELOPMENT WILL THAT
11:54:49 BE?
11:54:53 >> VERY CLOSE TO WHAT FLORIDA CRYSTALS HAVE PUT IN OVER
11:54:53 AT FITZGERALD.
11:54:55 THE SAME KIND OF APARTMENTS.
11:54:58 A RING TINE OF APARTMENTS.
11:55:05 THE AMENITY DECK WILL BE ON INSIDE --
11:55:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY WAY THAT CRA DOLLARS COULD BE
11:55:14 HELD -- TO HELP WITH SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
11:55:16 REPRESENTED THAT POSSIBLE PROJECT?
11:55:18 >> THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS MARKET RATE.
11:55:20 THE SAME DEVELOPER WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER DEVELOPERS
11:55:23 APPROACHED ME OF A PROPERTY NORTH OF THERE ON THE OTHER
11:55:24 SIDE.
11:55:26 AND ASKED SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
11:55:29 WE ARE NOW STARTING TO EXPLORE THAT AS AN OPTION.
11:55:32 YES, THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST IN THE MARKET TO DO
11:55:32 THAT.
11:55:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PLEASE EXPLORE THAT.
11:55:37 >>ROB ROSNER: IT IS SO PRESSURE.
11:55:38 JUST THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
11:55:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS GOOD.
11:55:44 THE CRA HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND I KNOW
11:55:48 HIM VERY WELL AND IT IS A CONVERSATION YOU COULD HAVE
11:55:49 WITH HIM POSSIBLY.
11:55:51 >>ROB ROSNER: WE STARTED THAT CONVERSATION WITH A
11:55:54 COUPLE OF OTHERS AND A VERY GOOD TREE LIGHTING WHICH IS
11:55:55 THE NEXT ITEM ON HERE.
11:55:59 THE TREE LIGHTING WHICH WAS ON THE MAYOR'S BIRTHDAY.
11:56:02 I WAS ABLE TO SEE MR. CITRO OUT THERE AND GLAD YOU
11:56:05 SHOWED UP AND WORKSHOP ABLE TO HAVE A NICE EVENT.
11:56:08 THE MAYOR HAD HER HAPPY BIRTHDAY SENT TO HER.
11:56:10 AND THAT WAS A WONDERFUL PIECE OF IT.
11:56:13 I NEVER SEEN THAT PARK EVER SO PACKED IN MY LIFE IN ALL
11:56:16 THE YEARS I HAVE GONE TO THESE EVENTS.
11:56:17 IT WAS PACKED.
11:56:18 I NEVER SEEN THAT MANY PEOPLE.
11:56:20 VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE EVENT.
11:56:23 ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT?
11:56:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:56:26 PROCEED.
11:56:28 >>ROB ROSNER: THANK YOU.
11:56:29 MAY WE HAVE THE SLIDE.
11:56:32 SO TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT.
11:56:35 THE DEVELOPER IS STILL PROCEEDING WITH THE WORKS THEY
11:56:38 ARE DOING FOR DOING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:56:43 WE DID HAVE OUR FIRST CAC APPROVAL OF A JAZZ FEST THAT
11:56:47 IS GOING TO BE IN WATER WORKS PARK WHICH IS WHAT YOU
11:56:50 APPROVED LAST MONTH.
11:56:52 CAC WAS THE NEXT WEEK.
11:56:53 WE APPROVED THAT.
11:57:00 THE EVENT IS JANUARY 11 IN WATER WORKS PARK.
11:57:04 SO -- SO THE CORNER POCKET PARK AT THE CORNER OF
11:57:06 MASSACHUSETTS AND PALM AVENUE IS COMPLETE.
11:57:08 AND IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
11:57:12 IT IS OBVIOUSLY A PRIVATE -- PRIVATELY FUNDED PARK AND
11:57:14 OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH THAT INTENTION.
11:57:16 AND IT IS AVAILABLE.
11:57:20 SO THE -- THE BOAT SLIPS THAT ARE ALMOST COMPLETE AND
11:57:24 THEY HAVE A -- THEY HAVE AN EXTENSION THAT GOES OUT,
11:57:26 THAT IS MORE OF A PUBLIC SPACE.
11:57:28 AND IT WAS KIND OF A JOKE OUT THERE, THIS WILL BE A NEW
11:57:31 PARKING LOT ON THE RIVER BECAUSE A LARGE PLACE.
11:57:35 AND IT IS NOT -- IT'S -- THERE WAS A SPOOF THAT RAN OUT
11:57:38 THAT WAS KIND OF FUNNY, BUT A VERY LARGE SPACE THAT
11:57:42 WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF
11:57:47 THE ACTIVITIES ON THE RIVERWALK.
11:57:51 SO THE PEARL APARTMENTS HAVE RENTED PART OF THEIR SPACE
11:57:54 TO A IRISH PUB.
11:57:57 THEY SHOULD BE OPENING IF NOT OPEN ALREADY SINCE I
11:57:58 WROTE THIS REPORT.
11:58:00 AND THEY HAD THEIR TREE LIGHTING AT THE END OF
11:58:01 NOVEMBER.
11:58:04 ANY QUESTIONS ON TAMPA HEIGHTS?
11:58:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE PROCEED, I WILL ENTERTAIN A
11:58:11 MEETING TO CONTINUE MEETING UNTIL 12:30.
11:58:13 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:58:15 OPPOSED?
11:58:28 MOTION CARRIES.
11:58:30 >> THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
11:58:33 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL -- CRA BOARD MEMBERS,
11:58:34 APOLOGIZE.
11:58:38 PREVIOUSLY ALTHOUGH THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC MOTION MADE,
11:58:41 BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN -- IN -- COUNCILMAN
11:58:44 DINGFELDER IS NOT HERE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:58:47 WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT PROJECTS WE ARE WORKING ON
11:58:49 TRYING TO PULL THAT TOGETHER.
11:58:52 WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE IN
11:58:54 THE WORK IN PROGRESS AND I HEARD THE PHRASE A COUPLE OF
11:58:57 TIMES TODAY, IT'S A HEAVY LIFT.
11:59:01 THIS IS A VERY HEAVY LIFT IN THAT THE DATA THAT WE ARE
11:59:04 TRYING TO MINE, IF YOU WILL, IS IN SEVERAL PLACES.
11:59:08 THERE IS NO ONE LOCALE FOR THAT.
11:59:12 IT OUR ACELA SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY YET.
11:59:14 WE ARE WORKING TOWARD THAT TO IDENTIFY WHEN IT IS
11:59:19 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THROUGH THE BUILDER, WHERE IT IS
11:59:22 GOING AND ALL THE DETAILS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE
11:59:25 DECISION ABOUT LAND USE, TRANSIT USE DEVELOPMENT AND
11:59:27 ETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:59:31 WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR IS, LIKE, WE DID PULL A LIST
11:59:35 OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT HAVE STATE AND
11:59:39 FEDERAL FUNDING IN THEM THAT WERE HOUSING.
11:59:41 BY DEFAULT, IF THEY HAVE STATE AND FEDERAL MONEY IN
11:59:44 THERE, AND THEY ARE ON THAT LIST, THAT IS AN AFFORDABLE
11:59:45 UNIT.
11:59:47 WE PULLED THAT LIST AND HAVE THAT THING.
11:59:49 WE ARE GETTING READY TO MAP THAT.
11:59:53 WE ALSO PULLED THE LIST THAT HAS ANY STATE TAX --
11:59:55 REDUCTION STATE TAX CREDIT.
11:59:58 THE 4% AND THE 9% ITEMS.
12:00:03 AGAIN, IF THEY ARE APPLYING FOR STATE, FLORIDA HOUSING
12:00:07 FINANCE CORPORATION TAX CREDIT FOR THE 4% AND 9% BY
12:00:10 DEFAULT AFFORDABLE.
12:00:15 AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO HAVE A BROAD CONVERSATION
12:00:18 WHAT IS AFFORDABLE VERSUS WORK FORCE AND ETS, ETS SO WE
12:00:20 ALL ARE TALKING ON THE SAME SHEET.
12:00:24 THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS,
12:00:27 PULLED ALL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES THAT WE
12:00:30 PROCESSED OVER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES OF THE BUILDING
12:00:31 DEPARTMENT.
12:00:33 FOR ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WHICH IS HOW WE
12:00:35 EVALUATE MULTIFAMILY.
12:00:38 WE CONSIDER MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND COMMERCIAL REVIEW
12:00:41 BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IS A HIGHER
12:00:44 STANDARD OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN TERMS OF
12:00:47 ACCESSIBILITY, SAFETY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:00:51 FIRE SPRINKLERS, AND ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY.
12:00:54 THE NOTION THERE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO CREATE VARIOUS
12:00:57 LAYERS WITH THE STATE FUNDED PROGRAMS, THE STATE TAX
12:01:00 CREDIT PROGRAMS, THE VARIOUS -- ALL OF THE HOUSING
12:01:02 INCLUDING REGULAR MARKET RATE HOUSING.
12:01:03 MAP THAT.
12:01:08 MAKE SEVERAL GIS LAYERS SO IN IS SENSE, WE CAN CREATE A
12:01:10 HEAT MAP, SO TO SPEAK.
12:01:13 AND FROM THAT, WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE ADDING
12:01:16 DIFFERENT LAYERS AND MOVING UP AND DOWN, WILL BE ABLE
12:01:19 TO SEE WHERE IS ALL THE HOUSING BEING BUILT.
12:01:23 THE BLACK DOTS ARE MARKET RATE HOUSING ALL OVER THE
12:01:23 CITY.
12:01:26 THE RED DOTS -- I AM MAKING THIS UP.
12:01:30 AND THE RED DOTS ARE THE AFFORDABLE, THE MULTIFAMILY
12:01:34 SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE AND AT THAT POINT, BE ABLE TO
12:01:37 LOOK AT AND SAY WE ARE DOING OKAY AND BUILDING
12:01:39 AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE BUT THIS AREA HERE, WE NEED TO
12:01:41 CONCENTRATE THERE.
12:01:43 THIS AIR HERE WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE.
12:01:47 GEE, THEY ARE NOT BUILDING ANY MARKET RATE IN THIS AREA
12:01:48 HERE.
12:01:49 IT IS A TOOL.
12:01:53 BECOMES A TOOL FOR COUNCIL, FOR THE CRA FOLKS.
12:01:56 THE OTHER THING IS WITH ALL OF THIS MAP, IT IS EASY TO
12:02:00 ADD ONE MORE LAYER TO DELINEATE EACH OF THE CRA SO YOU
12:02:03 CAN SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS HELPING IN THE INDIVIDUAL
12:02:08 CRAS AS WELL.
12:02:13 SO -- DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION -- THE REASON
12:02:15 THAT IS IMPORTANT WHERE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS
12:02:15 GOING.
12:02:21 YOU ARE GOING TO SEE -- WE DID A VERY RUDIMENTARY DRAFT
12:02:29 MAP AND GOING IN THE SAME SPOT CLUSTERED.
12:02:32 VERY QUICKLY BECOME VERY EVIDENT.
12:02:37 UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, IT WAS INCORPORATED AS
12:02:40 PART OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT AND WHAT THE FEDERAL
12:02:44 GOVERNMENT DISCOVERED OR SOMEBODY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY
12:02:49 HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAD TO ALMOST BE
12:02:54 LOCATED IN AT-RISK AREA, AND BY ACCIDENT, THE
12:02:58 GOVERNMENT WAS REQUIRING TO YOU PUT SOME OF YOUR
12:03:00 HOUSING CLUSTERING IT.
12:03:02 AND AS PLANNERS ONE OF THE THINGS WE FINALLY LEARNED
12:03:05 THAT YOU CAN'T CONCENTRATE EVERYTHING IF FOR AFFORDABLE
12:03:08 IN ONLY AT RISK AREAS.
12:03:10 YOU HAVE TO DISPERSE IT ACROSS THE CITIES.
12:03:13 AN AFFORDABLE UNIT, A MARKET RATE UNIT.
12:03:14 PEOPLE GET UP.
12:03:19 THEY SEE EVERYBODY GOING TO WORK AND REALLY STARTS TO
12:03:21 HAVE A LOT OF BENEFICIAL EFFECTS.
12:03:22 THEY LEARN THAT.
12:03:26 AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- THE LONG-TERM GOAL
12:03:34 IS TO GET WE AND I, INCORPORATE THESE GIS LAYERS, THESE
12:03:37 MAPS AND DECISION POINTS IF YOU WILL, AND HAVE IT SO WE
12:03:41 CAN RUN A REPORT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS SO WE CAN PROVIDE
12:03:44 IT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, PROVIDE IT TO THE CRA BOARD,
12:03:47 PROVIDE IT TO CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, TO MAKE GOOD
12:03:49 DECISIONS ON LAND USE DECISIONS.
12:03:51 REZONING DESIGNATION.
12:03:57 TRANSIT ORIENTATION DECISIONS, WORK FORCE EMPOWERMENT
12:04:00 DECISIONS BECAUSE YOU SAY, OKAY, HERE IS WHERE THE
12:04:02 HOUSING IS AND CLOSE TO THE TRANSIT AND GET ON THE
12:04:05 TRAIN AND TO THE BUS AND GO TO THE JOB.
12:04:08 ALL KINDS OF REALLY BENEFICIAL THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN
12:04:12 ONCE YOU START TO MAP SOME OF THIS OUT AND GET DECENT
12:04:12 DATA.
12:04:13 THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
12:04:15 AS I SAID A HEAVY LIFT.
12:04:18 AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE MINING THROUGH ALL OF THAT DATA BY
12:04:19 HAND.
12:04:20 IT TAKES A LONG TIME.
12:04:29 BUT WE HOPE TO HAVE IT MY OR ADVERTISED AND INTO A
12:04:33 REPORT THAT YOU SEE WANT TO HAVE WHAT IS TAGGED AS AN
12:04:35 AFFORDABLE UNIT AND LAWN REPORT.
12:04:38 SEE WHAT WAS TAGGED BY EAST TAMPA BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
12:04:39 AS THE BUILDER.
12:04:40 RUN THAT REPORT.
12:04:42 CDC OF TAMPA.
12:04:43 RUN THAT REPORT.
12:04:45 HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
12:04:45 ETC.
12:04:48 YOU CAN START TO DRILL DOWN ON THOSE THINGS AS WE START
12:04:52 -- TNI GETS WITH US AND THEY SCRIPT THAT.
12:04:55 THE FOLKS WORKING ON THAT -- YOU HAVE SEEN THEM IN
12:05:00 FRONT OF YOU VANESSA, RANDY GOERS, MELISSA MARTINEZ AND
12:05:04 OTHER FOLKS ON OUR STAFF AND WE PUT A PROJECT TEAM TO
12:05:06 WORK ON THIS SPECIFICALLY.
12:05:11 THEY STILL DO THEIR DAYTIME JOBS, DON'T GET ME WRONG,
12:05:12 BUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE.
12:05:16 WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
12:05:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:18 THANK YOU, MR. SELLING IN.
12:05:21 WHEN CAN WE START TO SEE SOME OF THESE REPORTS COMING
12:05:22 IN?
12:05:23 >> TOMORROW, NO.
12:05:23 [LAUGHTER]
12:05:28 THAT I -- I AM AFRAID TO EVEN KIND OF GUESS, BUT I KNOW
12:05:33 YOU ARE VERY INTERESTED AS WELL AS MAYOR CASTOR IS VERY
12:05:35 INTERESTED AND WILL BE ON THE FRONT BURNER AND WE ARE
12:05:37 TRYING TO GET THAT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
12:05:38 BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE POINT.
12:05:45 THE WORK FORCE HOUSING FOLKS WILL GET RELEASED AND HAVE
12:05:46 RECOMMENDATIONS AND USE THIS AS WELL.
12:05:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US INFORMED.
12:05:53 >> YES, SIR.
12:05:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO YOU, AREN'T
12:06:00 WE?
12:06:01 >> I THOUGHT YOUR MOTION --
12:06:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SAID WE ARE GOING TO RECESS AT
12:06:04 12:30.
12:06:06 WE ARE GOING UNTIL 12:30.
12:06:09 NO, WE ARE EXTENDING OUR TIME TO 12:30.
12:06:12 HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE FINISHED BY 12:30.
12:06:13 >> OKAY.
12:06:17 GREAT.
12:06:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
12:06:23 >> SO THE MOTION YOU HAD REQUESTED SAYS FOR ME TO COME
12:06:27 BACK AND GIVE A REPORT AFTER WE TALK TO OUR CACS.
12:06:28 SO WE HAD DONE THAT.
12:06:32 WE HAD A PRESENTATION DONE ON NOVEMBER 5 AT OUR CAC,
12:06:36 AND WE HAD A VERY CROWDED ROOM WHICH WAS EXCELLENT.
12:06:43 BECAUSE WE HAD GOOD REPUTATION FROM THE.
12:06:49 MR. DEMAIO AND MISS ISAAC AND HER DESIGN TEAM CAME
12:06:51 SHARE THE SAME PROPOSAL THEY HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND
12:06:54 PRESENTED THAT AND THERE WAS A HEALTHY 45 MINUTES TO AN
12:06:56 HOUR'S WORTH OF DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS
12:06:59 WOULD BE INVOLVED.
12:07:07 THE ---ED CAC HAD PASSED A MOTION TO THE -- TAKING THE
12:07:09 PROCESS BACK TO THE DESIGN PHASE SO THE REQUEST FOR
12:07:17 MODIFICATION CAN BE DISCUSSED IN THE PUBIC.
12:07:20 THEY WERE ADAMANT THAT THE PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE
12:07:27 PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND VOTED ON IT.
12:07:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROSNER?
12:07:32 I HAVE A COUPLE.
12:07:39 HOW MANY MORE TIME EFFORT WILL THIS TAKE FOR THE CRA
12:07:47 WE HAVE BROUGHT HER TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF HOW MUCH
12:07:50 AND DEFER TO HER TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
12:07:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL YOU PLEASE.
12:07:55 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:08:03 YOUR QUESTION REGARDING TIME SCYTHE GIVE US YOUR NAME.
12:08:06 >> KARLA PRICE, LANDSCAPE MANAGER.
12:08:09 >> CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON EFFORT, BUT TIME AND PRICE.
12:08:11 WHAT ARE WE TALKING?
12:08:14 >> THE CONSULTANT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE
12:08:17 ALLEN BUILDING OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO GO BACK TO
12:08:26 THE DESIGN THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE WHAT WE HEARD.A
12:08:32 $89,000 PRICE TAG AND A SIX-TO-EIGHT-MONTH TIME FRAME.
12:08:42 TO DO THAT WORK.
12:08:43 >> THAT A GOOD QUESTION.
12:08:46 WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT?
12:08:47 >> I DON'T THINK WE ARE.
12:08:49 DISCUSSION WITH THE BUILDING OWNER THAT THEY HAVE
12:08:51 TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY PAYING FOR THAT.
12:08:53 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DECISION HAS BEEN MADE YET WHO IS
12:08:57 GOING TO PAY FOR THAT.
12:09:00 >> YOU ARE ABOUT READY TO LOOK AT ME AND SAY YOU HAVE
12:09:00 SOMETHING TO SAY.
12:09:03 SO I WILL HOLD OFF MY COMMENTS PLEASE.
12:09:06 >> YEAH, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
12:09:08 PROPERTY OWNERS AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS
12:09:14 DISCUSSED WAS THAT SHOULD THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT
12:09:17 AGREE -- ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR.
12:09:24 THE CRA BOARD REALLY ISN'T THE DECISION-MAKER HERE.
12:09:28 THE CRA AGREED TO FUND THE DESIGN AND THE IMPROVEMENTS
12:09:30 TO THE PARK.
12:09:36 BUT IT IS REALLY ULTIMATELY A CITY OF TAMPA PARKS
12:09:39 DEPARTMENT PROJECT AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
12:09:42 SUGGEST IS WHATEVER THIS BOARD DECIDES THAT YOU MAKE A
12:09:45 MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY DIRECT
12:09:48 THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO MOVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR
12:09:49 MOTION.
12:09:55 AND WE ACTUALLY DRAFTED A COUPLE OF OPTIONS FOR YOU
12:09:57 WITH REGARD TO THAT MOTION, AND I WANTED TO MAKE A
12:09:58 COUPLE OF THINGS CLEAR.
12:10:07 THE ISSUE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT THE BOARD IS MAKING
12:10:10 A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT IS WHETHER TO REOPEN THE DESIGN
12:10:14 PROCESS TO LOOK AT THE ROW LOCATION OF THE DOG PARK.
12:10:17 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO EVERYONE THE
12:10:22 PUBLIC, THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT ANY DECISION AS TO
12:10:27 WHETHER A RESTAURANT WILL BE OPERATED ON PARK PROPERTY,
12:10:30 WHETHER THE CITY WILL LEASE IT IS NOT BEING DECIDED AT
12:10:31 THIS POINT IN TIME.
12:10:35 THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD COME, I WOULD THINK, YEARS
12:10:37 LATER.
12:10:40 AND THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE CITY'S DECISION AS TO
12:10:41 WHETHER ALLOW THAT.
12:10:46 SO YOU HAVE TO -- YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE THAT ISSUE FROM
12:10:48 WHAT YOU ARE BEING ASKED FOR NOW WHICH IS WHETHER TO
12:10:52 PUT A PAUSE ON A PROCESS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE TO DESIGN
12:11:01 THIS PARK AND LOOK AT THE REDESIGN OF THE PARK TO
12:11:04 RELOCATE THE DOG AREA TO HELP FACILITATE THE POSSIBLE
12:11:08 REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY THAT ABUTS THE LOCATION OF
12:11:10 THE DOG PARK ON THE CURRENT PLANS.
12:11:16 SO REALLY IN -- IN MY MIND, AND I DID, LIKE I SAID,
12:11:19 DRAFT A -- DRAFT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD TO
12:11:20 LOOK AT IN TERMS OF MOTIONS.
12:11:23 AND I WILL PASS THOSE OUT.
12:11:29 REALLY WHAT YOU ARE BEING ASKED NOW IS SAY WHETHER IT
12:11:33 IS THE CRA BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY PARKS
12:11:37 DEPARTMENT KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE -- WITH THE
12:11:43 DESIGN OF THE PARK AS IS OR IF YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND TO
12:11:47 THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY DIRECT THE PARKS
12:11:52 DEPARTMENT TO REOPEN THE DESIGN PROCESS AS HAS BEEN
12:11:55 REQUESTED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO ALLOW FOR
12:11:58 THE -- FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF RELOCATING THE DOG
12:12:04 AREA, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY -- I SHOULDN'T SAY THE
12:12:09 -- SHOULD SAY THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT IN
12:12:11 ACCORDANCE WITH DISCUSSIONS THAT THE CITY
12:12:13 ADMINISTRATION HAD WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER,
12:12:17 THAT THAT PROPERTY OWNER WILL BEAR THE ADDITIONAL COST
12:12:20 ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT IS GOING TO BE A DELAY AND
12:12:22 REDESIGN OF THE PARK PROJECT.
12:12:25 AND ALSO THAT ANY REDESIGN GOES THROUGH THE SAME PUBLIC
12:12:30 VETTING, PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT WAS HAD FOR THE
12:12:31 ORIGINAL DESIGN.
12:12:34 MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS
12:12:37 WHERE PEOPLE GAVE THEIR INPUT ON THAT PARK PROJECT.
12:12:41 AND I PASSED OUT SOME DRAFT MOTIONS SHOULD YOU WANT TO
12:12:44 TAKE ONE OF THOSE TWO ROUTES.
12:12:47 IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THIS BOARD HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE
12:12:49 FORWARD WITH THIS.
12:12:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES -- SORRY, ARE YOU
12:12:54 FINISHED WITH YOURS?
12:12:56 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:12:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOMEONE MIGHT.
12:13:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:13:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MISS ZELMAN IS RIGHT.
12:13:13 NOT A CRA MATTER BUT CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE CRA WAS
12:13:16 GIVEN DOLLARS TO HELP ALONG WITH THE CITY TO DO THE
12:13:19 PROJECT, CORRECT?
12:13:20 >> CORRECT.
12:13:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOKING AT THE TWO, FROM WHERE I
12:13:26 STAND AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO TO A
12:13:28 COUNCIL SITUATION VERSUS A CRA, BECAUSE IT IS FALLING
12:13:32 IN UNDER PUBLIC, AND THING WILL FALL IN ON THE COUNCIL
12:13:34 TO MAKE DECISIONS WHAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE
12:13:36 DOING.
12:13:38 THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
12:13:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:13:42 ANYONE ELSE?
12:13:43 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:13:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE HEARD THE $64,000 QUESTION.
12:13:49 THIS IS THE $89,000 QUESTION.
12:13:52 AND YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IN SOME AREAS YOU HAVE
12:13:54 FACILITIES FOR RESTAURANTS.
12:14:00 CERTAINLY IN GRAND RAPIDS, MY MICHIGAN AND MUSKEGON,
12:14:04 MICHIGAN AND SPENT TWO SUMMERS OF MY LIFE HORSE RACING
12:14:08 AND WHERE WE HAVE CURTIS HIXON PARK, BUT NOT TO THAT
12:14:09 EXTENT.
12:14:12 WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT PARTS NOT ON THE WATER LIKE
12:14:17 MUSKEGON, MICHIGAN AND THE ONE IN CITY OF TAMPA.
12:14:20 BOTH ENTITIES -- THE CITY I MENTIONED IN MICHIGAN AND
12:14:23 TAMPA SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CREATE THE RIVER
12:14:25 WALK AND OTHER THINGS.
12:14:28 YOU EXPECT A PLACE TO HAVE PEOPLE TO EAT AND DRINK.
12:14:32 YOU DON'T EXPECT THEM TO SIT AND LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND
12:14:35 SAY WHAT A WONDERFUL TIME I AM HAVING.
12:14:38 YOU NEED AMENITIES FOR THEM TO DO.
12:14:42 I AM ONE HUMAN BEING -- I SIT HERE -- TOMORROW -- OR
12:14:44 TONIGHT I WILL BE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT $69,000
12:14:49 QUESTION OR $85,000 QUESTION BECOMES VERY UNCHEWABLE
12:14:53 FOR ME TO SWALLOW AS AN INDIVIDUAL IN MY NEXT MEETING.
12:14:57 I MAY SWALLOW IT HERE, BUT I GOT TO SET NEXT MEETING
12:14:58 AND BE SOMEBODY ELSE.
12:15:00 I HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THIS.
12:15:02 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER SIX MEMBERS.
12:15:07 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, IS THIS PARK DESIGNED NOW.
12:15:09 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
12:15:12 DESIGNED AND OPERATIONAL TO GO SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE
12:15:13 AND VERY NEARLY.
12:15:16 SO I AM GOING TO STOP THAT 37 AND I AM GOING TO SPEND
12:15:24 $9,000 AND HAVE A CONTRACT FOR -- $89,000 AND A
12:15:25 CONTRACT FOR A RESTAURANT.
12:15:28 AND THAT I AM GOING TO FUNDING IS AND THEN IF THAT
12:15:31 RESTAURANT GOES BUSTED -- YOU KNOW RESTAURANTS -- 7%
12:15:35 FAILURE HAPPEN WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.
12:15:39 >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE $89,000 AND CORRECT ME IF I'M
12:15:42 WRONG IS JUST TO LOOK AT REDESIGNING THE PARK TO
12:15:45 RELOCATE THE DOG AREA.
12:15:48 AGAIN, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER A RESTAURANT WILL
12:15:54 ULTIMATELY LAND THERE WOULD NOT BE PART OF THAT OTHER
12:15:59 THAN IN THEORY MOVING THE DOG AREA WHICH MAKE IT EASIER
12:16:01 FOR THAT TO POSSIBLY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT
12:16:04 WOULD BE SEPARATE AND APART.
12:16:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY QUESTION TO MYSELF IS WHY SHOULD
12:16:17 I SPEND $89,000 NOT KNOWING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
12:16:20 >> FIRST OF ALL, I NEED TO ASK WHAT IS THE $89,000
12:16:23 GOING TO BE SPENT ON?
12:16:26 AND WHY $89,000?
12:16:28 THEN I WILL HAVE A FOLLOW-UP STATEMENT AFTER THAT.
12:16:33 >> SO THE CONSULTANT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
12:16:35 THAT INCLUDES TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS.
12:16:37 THEY HAVE TO PREPARE BOARDS.
12:16:40 THEY HAVE TO PREPARE PRESENTATIONS FOR THAT.
12:16:54 BEFORE WE HAVE A MALL DOG PARK.
12:16:56 HALF AN ACRE.
12:16:58 EFFECTS THE ORIENTATION WITHIN THE PARK.
12:17:01 IF YOU WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT WHERE TO PUT THE DOG
12:17:01 PARK.
12:17:04 AND ALMOST LIKE AT THE BEGINNING.
12:17:07 AND COME BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET THEIR INPUT
12:17:10 AND PROBABLY COME UP WITH ONE OR TWO CONCEPTS TO
12:17:14 PRESENT TO THEM AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON AND TAKE
12:17:18 THOSE TWO AND MODIFY THEM INTO ONE.
12:17:22 AND THAT IS ALL THE TIME TAKES.
12:17:25 AND THAT AFFECTS THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
12:17:28 THAT AFFECTS EVERYTHING UNDER GROUND.
12:17:31 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC, IRRIGATION, WATER, ALL
12:17:34 OF THAT IS IMPACTED WHEN YOU START MAKING CHANGES.
12:17:37 HARD SCAPE, TREE PROTECTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
12:17:40 REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PRESERVING AS
12:17:44 MUCH AS THE SHADE AS POSSIBLE BUT MAKING THE PARK
12:17:46 LIGHTER SO THEY FELT SAFER THERE DURING THE DAY AND THE
12:17:48 EVENINGS.
12:17:51 SO IT -- IT IS ALMOST REPEATING A BIG PORTION OF WHAT
12:17:53 THEY ALREADY HAVE DONE.
12:17:56 BECAUSE NOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT ORIENTATION
12:18:00 FOR A LOT OF THE ELEMENTS IN THE PARK.
12:18:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALL KNOW CONSTRUCTION PRICES CAN
12:18:03 CHANGE TOMORROW.
12:18:04 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:18:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST GOING FURTHER.
12:18:10 EARLIER -- AN HOUR AND A HALF OR TWO HOURS AGO I HEARD
12:18:13 SOMETHING ABOUT SECURITY AND SAFETY OF THE PARK.
12:18:17 AM I GOING TO BE GUARANTEED I AM MEETING THE
12:18:21 STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CITY OF TAMPA, IF THIS HAPPENS WE
12:18:24 WILL HAVE SECURITY AND SAFETY AT THAT PARK AT NO
12:18:26 ADDITIONAL COST?
12:18:28 >> WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO FORESEE AND LOOK INTO THE
12:18:29 FUTURE.
12:18:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:18:33 >> WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOTEL ON THE NORTH
12:18:38 SIDE, WE FEEL LIKE THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE PEDESTRIAN
12:18:39 ACTIVITY GOING ON.
12:18:42 SO WE HAVE DESIGNED THE PARK TO INVITE THOSE PEOPLE WHO
12:18:44 ARE STAYING THERE TO COME AND HANG OUT.
12:18:49 WE ARE DOING SOME -- WHAT THEY CALL FESTOON LIGHTING
12:18:52 WHICH IS THE CABLE LIGHTING THAT HANGS AMONGST THE OAK
12:18:56 TREES, THE SEATING AREAS, A RAISED DECK.
12:18:58 WE HAVE OPENED IT UP SO YOU CAN SEE FROM ALL
12:19:03 DIRECTIONS, WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF THE MAIN PRINCIPLES
12:19:07 OF CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN.
12:19:11 PRINCIPLE THAT'S INCORPORATE INTO THE OVERALL DESIGN.
12:19:14 WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE SO SOMETHING THAT
12:19:17 OUR DEPARTMENT CAN MAINTAIN TO KEEP IT LOOKING GOOD.
12:19:20 SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
12:19:24 >> YOU TOLD ME -- I WAS LAUGHING AT MYSELF.
12:19:27 I MAY NEED TO RENT A ROOM TO MAKE SURE IT IS ALL TRUE.
12:19:28 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:19:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS?
12:19:32 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:19:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS
12:19:37 ALWAYS HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
12:19:39 AS SOMEBODY WHO OWNS AN OLD BUILDING BECAUSE EVERYTHING
12:19:43 AROUND IT HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED LIKE THE DOMINO BUILDING
12:19:46 WHICH IS AN OLD GAS STATION OR SERVICE STATION FROM
12:19:47 YEARS AGO.
12:19:49 I APPRECIATE THAT BE.
12:19:53 >> WILLING TO INVEST A LOT OF MONEY AND RENOVATING,
12:19:54 WHY?
12:19:59 BECAUSE MUCH OF DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED AND VERY
12:20:00 FEW ORIGINAL STRUCTURES SURVIVE.
12:20:07 I WOULD GO INTO THIS HISTORIC BUILDING CUDRO MUSIC SHOP
12:20:09 25, 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS A KID.
12:20:12 I REMEMBER HERMAN MASSEY BEING BUILT AS A KID.
12:20:16 I WAS AT THE CEMETERY TO VISIT MY GRANDFATHER AND I
12:20:19 WALKED PAST HERMAN MASSEY'S GRAVE.
12:20:20 I DIDN'T TAKE A PICTURE.
12:20:22 WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
12:20:24 THAT PARK WAS UTILIZED FOR SOME.
12:20:25 IT WAS OPEN.
12:20:28 IT WAS FENCED IN AND DOWNTOWN IS CHANGING AND A LOT OF
12:20:29 RESIDENTS COMING IN.
12:20:30 A PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
12:20:33 I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THE -- THE MAYOR AT THE TIME
12:20:38 WOULD SAY GO TO CURTIS HIXON PARK FOR THE DOG PARK.
12:20:39 WE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
12:20:40 GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
12:20:42 THAT IS HOW IT WOULD BE.
12:20:44 HAVING SAID THAT $89,000, I UNDERSTAND THE IRRIGATION
12:20:48 AND ELECTRICAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
12:20:50 MINOR CHANGE TO ACCOMMODATE -- I DON'T KNOW, JUST MOVE
12:20:54 AROUND THAT LITTLE PARCEL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SMALL DOG
12:20:58 PARK AND THE LARGE DOG PARK TO MAKE IT WORK.
12:21:00 I DON'T KNOW IF A RESTAURANT IS GOING TO GO IN THERE.
12:21:04 MY POINT IS I HOPE THAT BUILDING IS RESTORED SO IT IS
12:21:06 NOT DEMOLISHED AND LOST.
12:21:12 IS THERE A HAPPY MEDIAN THAT WE CAN COME TO SO WE DON'T
12:21:15 HAVE TO SPEND MONEY FOR THESE CHANGES.
12:21:16 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS.
12:21:19 THE WHOLE ARGUMENT SILLY.
12:21:22 NOW DOWNTOWN IS FINALLY COMING AROUND AFTER DECADES OF
12:21:23 GOING DOWNHILL.
12:21:24 AND I DON'T KNOW.
12:21:27 ANYWAYS.
12:21:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:21:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:21:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE I
12:21:37 THOUGHT MEETINGS WERE HAPPENING AND A MEETING MET.
12:21:42 SO YOU ARE SAYING WE ARE BACK TO GROUND ZERO AGAIN?
12:21:44 I AM REALLY CONFUSED.
12:21:46 I THOUGHT THE CHIEF OF STAFF WAS HERE AND TALKING ABOUT
12:21:47 THEY WERE MEETING.
12:21:50 IT WAS COMING TOGETHER AND LAST TIME WE TALKED I
12:21:51 THOUGHT THE DEAL WAS SET.
12:21:53 NOW WE CHANGED THE DEAL?
12:21:55 >> NO, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE DEAL.
12:21:59 THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR POINTS OF
12:22:02 VIEW ON EACH OF IT.
12:22:06 AS MISS ZELMAN SAID, WE WENT THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS
12:22:12 OF MEETING WITH THEM, THE DEVELOPERS AND MET WITH THEM
12:22:14 AND SOME THE OTHER GROUPS IN THE AREA AS I MENTIONED,
12:22:20 AND I WILL -- I WILL LET THEM CHARACTERIZE, AND EACH
12:22:24 ONE THESE GROUP CHARACTERIZE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS
12:22:29 ONE, BUT OUR INTENT WAS TO SEE WHAT THE CAC VOTED ON
12:22:32 FOR SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORTING REDESIGNING OR NOT.
12:22:35 AS CLARIFICATION, I THINK THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THE
12:22:38 DEVELOPER BEARED THE COST OF WHATEVER THE CHANGES WERE.
12:22:41 I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION A FEW MINUTES AGO
12:22:42 ABOUT THAT.
12:22:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO BEAR THE COST
12:22:44 OF THAT.
12:22:48 BUT THE CAC BOARD IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT?
12:22:52 >> THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF OPENING IT TO REVITALIZE THAT
12:22:54 BUILDING OR HAVE THE ABILITY FROM CHANGING THE DESIGN
12:22:55 OF THE PARK.
12:22:56 WILL BE OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION.
12:22:59 THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.
12:23:02 CAC IS IN SUPPORT OF OPENING THE DISCUSSION.
12:23:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WELL -- WELL, SEEING THAT
12:23:08 WE ARE MEETING THAT MEDIAN.
12:23:12 THE DEVELOPER SAYS HE WILL PAY FOR IT AND THE CAC SAYS
12:23:15 THEY WILL PAY FOR IT AND WE WILL WORK IT OUT.
12:23:18 SEEMS LIKE A DONE DEAL FOR ME.
12:23:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY.
12:23:20 ARE YOU FINISHED?
12:23:25 IS THAT IN WRITING THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PAY FOR IT?
12:23:30 DO WE -- DO WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT --
12:23:33 >> MAY I -- YES.
12:23:37 THE CAC AND THE -- AND THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, THEY
12:23:38 ALL --
12:23:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:23:42 >> MALCA ISAAC.
12:23:45 YEAH, THE CAC AND THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DID VOTE IN
12:23:46 FAVOR OF IT.
12:23:47 THERE WAS A MOTION.
12:23:48 AND THEY CAME BACK IN FAVOR OF IT.
12:23:52 AND I OFFERED MY ARCHITECT TO DO THE WORK.
12:23:56 AND I WILL PICK UP THE COST OF IT.
12:24:00 AND THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT NOBODY WAS AWARE, AND
12:24:03 NOW THEY BECOME VERY RELEVANT.
12:24:06 AS IT IS DESIGNED RIGHT NOW, NOBODY PAID ATTENTION, BUT
12:24:09 LEGALLY IT CREATES A BIG NUISANCE.
12:24:14 ASSUME -- IMAGINE YOU ARE SITTING HERE AND SIX FEET
12:24:16 FROM YOU WITHOUT A WALL ARE DOGS.
12:24:20 THERE IS A PROBLEM OF THE SMELL AND THE BARKING.
12:24:23 SO THIS CANNOT EVEN LEGALLY BE CORRECT.
12:24:29 AND I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS THE DOG PARK WILL
12:24:31 NEED TO MOVE NO MATTER WHAT.
12:24:38 LEGALLY IT CONSTITUTES A NUISANCE HOW IT IS DESIGNED
12:24:38 RIGHT NOW.
12:24:42 THERE CANNOT BE A SMELL FROM EXCUSE ME THE POOP, AND
12:24:47 THE OTHER SITS SIX FEET FROM MY BUILDING.
12:24:49 WITH OR WITHOUT THE RESTAURANT, THE DOG PARK HAS TO
12:24:50 MOVE.
12:24:53 SECONDLY MR. ROSNER ADVISED ME PREVIOUSLY THAT THE
12:24:57 SWITCH IS VERY MINIMAL AND THE COST WOULD NOT BE THAT
12:24:57 BIG.
12:25:01 WE JUST WANT TO SWITCH -- MOVE THE DOG PARK TO ONE --
12:25:05 TO THE SIDE AND INSTEAD OF THE DOG PARK MOVE SOMETHING
12:25:09 -- THE TABLES TO -- NEXT TO MY BUILDING.
12:25:13 SO MOST OF THE ARCHITECTURAL WORK THAT WAS DONE, MR.
12:25:16 ROSNER SENT IT TO ME, CAN BE DONE.
12:25:18 BUT I WILL PICK UP THE COST.
12:25:22 AND -- AND.
12:25:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, THANK YOU.
12:25:25 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:25:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:25:31 WE HEARD FROM MISS ISAAC AND I HEAR A LOT OF HEADS
12:25:32 SHAKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:25:34 GLORIA AND OTHER FOLKS.
12:25:38 CAN WE BRING ONE OF YOU UP IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, FOR
12:25:41 ONE-MINUTE REBUTTAL POSITION.
12:25:42 IF THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT.
12:25:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GLADLY ENTERTAIN THAT, BUT I --
12:25:52 MR. ROSNER PLEASE, CAN YOU -- BEFORE WE HAVE THAT.
12:25:57 IF THIS WASN'T ASKED FOR RIGHT NOW, HAS THE PUBLIC
12:26:01 AGREED TO THE PLANS, HAS THE CAC AGREED TO THE PLANS,
12:26:04 AND COULD WE START CONSTRUCTION ON THE MASSEY PARK
12:26:06 TODAY IF THIS WASN'T ASKED FOR?
12:26:10 >> NO, THE DRAWINGS ARE NOT COMPLETE, AND I WILL LET
12:26:12 KARLA SPEAK --
12:26:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SORRY.
12:26:15 LET'S TAKE AWAY THE REQUEST FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER.
12:26:17 LET'S TAKE AWAY THAT.
12:26:21 IS THE PLANS READY TO GO AND SET FOR MASSEY PARK NOW.
12:26:24 I THINK I AM GOING TO HAVE AN ANSWER COMING UP RIGHT
12:26:24 HERE.
12:26:26 >>ROB ROSNER: YES, SHE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER.
12:26:29 >> WE ARE AT 90% CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
12:26:31 AND WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
12:26:34 THROUGH THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
12:26:37 WE PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD AT THE END OF OCTOBER WHEN
12:26:39 THIS ISSUE CAME UP.
12:26:44 SO WE ARE THIS CLOSE TO BEING READY TO PUT IT OUT TO
12:26:44 BID.
12:26:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF THIS REQUEST HAVEN'T BEEN MADE,
12:26:50 WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE FORESEEN THE COMPLETION DATE FOR
12:26:52 THIS PARK?
12:26:56 >> IF WE NOT HAD STOPPED IN OCTOBER WE WOULD BE OUT TO
12:26:57 BID RIGHT NOW.
12:26:59 WITH BIDS OPENING IN JANUARY.
12:27:02 CONSTRUCTION UNDER WAY MARCH, APRIL.
12:27:06 AND THEN CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY COMPLETE BY THE END OF
12:27:11 NEXT YEAR, EARLY FIRST QUARTER THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
12:27:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO NOW HOW LONG IS THIS SET -- HERMAN
12:27:17 MASSEY BACK?
12:27:20 HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL SET IT BACK TO COMPLETION
12:27:24 FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THE DESIGN OF
12:27:26 THE BALL PARK -- BALL PARK?
12:27:27 DOG PARK.
12:27:30 AND PARK.
12:27:32 >> PUTS US BEHIND SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
12:27:35 WHICH MEANS WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A YEAR AND A HALF
12:27:38 FROM NOW BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE A COMPLETED PARK PROJECT
12:27:40 AT LEAST.
12:27:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIRST TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN TO
12:27:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:27:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I WANTED TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE FROM
12:27:48 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:27:50 I SEE WE HAVE THE ORGANIZATION HERE.
12:27:52 IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME UP ONE MINUTE.
12:27:55 IF THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN IT OR NOT.
12:27:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:28:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FOR AN EXTRA 15 MINUTES.
12:28:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
12:28:05 COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR AN EXTRA 15 MINUTES.
12:28:08 IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
12:28:12 >> MICHAEL PAONESSA --
12:28:17 >> IF I MAY, I WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOUR POSITION WAS
12:28:18 WITH THE RUCKUS GOING ON.
12:28:19 >> PERFECT.
12:28:20 I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:28:24 THE KEY ISSUE HERE THIS REPOSITION OF THE DOG PARK, OF
12:28:27 THE APPROVED DESIGN IS SOLELY TO ACCOMMODATE THE
12:28:28 RESTAURANT.
12:28:36 WHEN SHE MET WITH US, MALCOLM, VICTOR AND MR. CALDERONI
12:28:39 IS WHEN ALL THIS CHANGE AROUND WOULD HAPPEN.
12:28:42 EASY PIECE TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE POSITION WE WANT TO
12:28:45 SWITCH THINGS AROUND, THAT'S ALL WE WANT TO DO.
12:28:47 SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE MENTIONED THAT IS ALREADY
12:28:51 BASICALLY A DON DEAL WITH RESPECTFULLY THE CITY COUNCIL
12:28:53 THAT THIS RESTAURANT PIECE WILL GO THROUGH.
12:28:57 THAT IS THE COMPLEXITY INVOLVED WITH THIS.
12:28:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:28:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:29:01 ON EITHER SIDE.
12:29:04 I AM NOT FAVORING EITHER SIDE, BUT WHAT I REMEMBERED IS
12:29:08 THEM TALKING ABOUT RECONFIGURATION OF THE DOG PARK WAS
12:29:09 GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT.
12:29:11 AND NOW I HEAR IT MAY NOT BE A RESTAURANT.
12:29:15 IT COULD BE ANYTHING.
12:29:17 >> BASICALLY -- THE POSITIONING IN TERMS OF THE
12:29:19 RESTAURANT, WHETHER THAT GOES THROUGH IS A WHOLE
12:29:20 ANOTHER ISSUE.
12:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT GUARANTEE THAT'S THE CITY HAS
12:29:27 THAT $89,000 OR WHATEVER IF YOU MOVE ALL THIS STUFF
12:29:29 AROUND YOU PAY FOR IT AND THE RESTAURANT IN FIVE YEARS,
12:29:33 TWO YEARS, DECIDE I DON'T WANT A RESTAURANT.
12:29:33 I HAVE IT NOW.
12:29:35 NOW I AM GOING TO CHANGE IT.
12:29:37 NOT INJURES.
12:29:39 NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYBODY.
12:29:39 INCLUDING ME.
12:29:40 IF I CHANGE MY MIND.
12:29:44 WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH THE $89,000 I JUST SPENT.
12:29:46 TELL THE PUBLIC I AM SORRY?
12:29:50 THAT IS WHERE I AM AT.
12:29:51 I AM SORRY.
12:29:54 I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY ONE OF YOU.
12:29:57 >> IF I CAN HAVE A MOMENT.
12:29:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MINUTE.
12:30:04 >> I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE -- THE BASIC TENET OF WHAT WE
12:30:04 HAD.
12:30:07 WE HAD THE ALLEN BUILDING.
12:30:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:30:13 >> VICTOR DEMAIO.
12:30:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE MILLION TO SEEING ANYTHING.
12:30:19 WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE --
12:30:23 >> CAN WE GET THIS UP ON THE SCREEN?
12:30:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE WE GO.
12:30:27 >> SO WE HAVE THE ALLEN -- RESTAURANT HERE.
12:30:30 THE DOG PARK WAS FACING IN THIS TRIANGLE.
12:30:33 THE SEATING AREA IN THIS TRIANGLE.
12:30:35 WE ASKED TO SWITCH THE SEATING AREA WITH THE DOG PARK.
12:30:37 AND PUT THE DOG PARK HERE.
12:30:40 THE PICNIC AREA, SEATING AREA, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL
12:30:42 REMAIN EXACTLY THE SAME, OKAY.
12:30:46 THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL, AGAIN.
12:30:49 THE PROPOSAL HERE WITH THE RESTAURANT.
12:30:54 AGAIN, WITH THE SEATING AREA HERE, THE DOG PARK HERE AN
12:30:57 EVERYTHING ELSE WILL REMAIN EXACTLY THE SAME.
12:31:03 WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH IT WILL COST ANOTHER $90,000?
12:31:06 THESE ARE HOW TYPICAL CITY CONTRACTS GO.
12:31:10 WE HAD OUR -- YEAH, $90,000 -- WE ALREADY SPENT
12:31:11 $100,000.
12:31:13 I AM TALKING MOVING TWO OR THREE THINGS.
12:31:17 I THINK WE CAN HAVE THIS DONE IN ONE COMMUNITY MEETING
12:31:21 INSTEAD OF THREE AND SAVE THE CITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
12:31:25 A LOT OF AGGRAVATION AND GET THIS DONE IN SIX MONTHS.
12:31:29 AND SHE HAS AGREED TO PAY -- THIS IS NOT A COSTLY --
12:31:32 SHE AGREED TO PAY FOR THE COST OF $89,000.
12:31:34 >> MAY I SAY SOMETHING.
12:31:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, ONE MINUTE.
12:31:41 >> MR. CALDERONI IS UNABLE TO COME TODAY.
12:31:46 HE OWNS THE HULA BAY AND OWNS THE GREEN IGUANA.
12:31:50 AND HE HAS BEEN WAITING A YEAR NOW.
12:31:54 AND HE AND I ARE IN THE -- THE LAWYER IS DRAFTING THE
12:31:56 PAPERS.
12:32:01 AND HE IS 100% GOING TO OPEN A RESTAURANT THERE.
12:32:06 AND HE IS FINANCIALLY STABLE AND VERY EXPERIENCED AND
12:32:08 HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
12:32:10 AND THERE WILL BE A RESTAURANT.
12:32:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:14 VERY QUICKLY.
12:32:15 VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
12:32:17 ONE MINUTE EACH.
12:32:23 >> SO MICHAEL AVELOS, DOWNTOWN RIVER ARTS ASSOCIATION.
12:32:26 WHAT YOU ARE BEING DEVELOPED IS SIMPLE AND THAT THIS IS
12:32:28 AN EASY DECISION.
12:32:28 IT'S NOT.
12:32:34 SO MUCH DEPENDENCY WHAT IS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS.
12:32:36 WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL GO INTO PLACE.
12:32:40 PERMITTING AND ZONING AND WE ARE NOT READY TO MAKE THAT
12:32:40 PAUSE.
12:32:44 THE OTHER THING WITH THE DESIGN AS IT HAS BEEN ME LICK
12:32:47 WITH USUALLY DESIGNED BY THE WGI.
12:32:50 THEY HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, THE
12:32:54 COMMUNITY DRIVEN EFFORT AND TAKEN THE INCLUSIVENESS OF
12:32:58 THE COMMUNITY, OF DOG OWNERS AND OTHERS AND CREATED
12:33:00 THIS ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE PARK AND
12:33:02 THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO BASICALLY BLOCK SOME OF THAT
12:33:06 VISIBILITY WHICH IS -- WAS INITIATED BECAUSE OF SAFETY
12:33:06 CONCERNS.
12:33:09 GO AHEAD.
12:33:12 >> I JUST WANT TO SAY I DON'T HAVE THE DESIGNS IN FRONT
12:33:16 OF ME, BUT THEY KEEP SAYING, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT
12:33:19 THEY ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING, BUT THEY ARE.
12:33:21 IT IS NOT JUST MOVING THE DOG PARK.
12:33:24 WHEN THEY MOVE THE DOG PARK TO ONE SIDE, THEY ARE
12:33:27 TAKING OUT ADDITIONAL -- EXTRA SEATING THAT WE FOUGHT
12:33:28 FOR.
12:33:33 AND THAT ALLOWS THE DOG OWNERS AND THE NONDOG OWNERS TO
12:33:35 HAVE AMPLE SEATING.
12:33:39 AND THAT -- THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:33:42 ALSO IN THAT AREA THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE OUT WAS A
12:33:43 STAGING AREA.
12:33:45 SO WE WANTED TO HAVE EVENTS.
12:33:47 WE WANTED TO HAVE A MARKET.
12:33:49 WE WANTED TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS.
12:33:52 WE WANTED TO HAVE MOVIE NIGHTS, JUST LIKE THE CHANNEL
12:33:53 DISTRICT.
12:33:56 BUT FOR SOME REASON, WE ARE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE
12:34:02 THAT INDEPENDENCE OF A COMMUNITY.
12:34:04 IT IS BEING TAKEN AWAY US FROM AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND
12:34:05 THAT.
12:34:05 I REALLY DON'T.
12:34:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:34:08 ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
12:34:11 >> I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THIS AT FIRST BUT TO BE HONEST
12:34:13 WITH YOU, A LIABILITY ISSUE HERE.
12:34:16 IF YOU KNOWINGLY KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO PUT A DOG PARK
12:34:18 NEXT TO THE LADY THAT OWNS A BUILDING FOR 30 YEARS, A
12:34:21 LIABILITY ISSUE WITH THE CITY BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE
12:34:24 DENYING HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP HER BUILDING,
12:34:26 SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FILL UP A 120-YEAR-OLD
12:34:27 BUILDING.
12:34:29 SO THE CITY WILL BE LIABLE IF THEY FORCE THAT DOG PARK
12:34:30 NEXT TO HER.
12:34:33 THE CITY WILL BE LIABLE KNOWING -- YOU KNOW THE FACTS
12:34:33 NOW.
12:34:35 EVERYBODY KNOWS THE FACTS NOW.
12:34:35 MADE PUBLIC.
12:34:37 THE CITY WILL BE LIABLE.
12:34:40 AND I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT NOT IN A GOOD WAY.
12:34:42 I AM SORRY.
12:34:44 SCYTHE COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:34:46 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR PROJECT
12:34:47 MANAGER.
12:34:50 ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY THIS MAY BE
12:34:52 DRAGGED OUT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
12:34:57 ANY WAY TO TUT A TIME -- TIME LIT.
12:35:00 A WAY TO COMPLIMENT 90 DAYS OR 120 DAYS.
12:35:04 >> FOR THE DESIGN PROCESS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES?
12:35:05 WHAT YOU ARE REFERENCING?
12:35:08 >>BILL CARLSON: SO IT DOESN'T GET DRAGGED OUT FOREVER?
12:35:11 >> WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
12:35:14 WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE
12:35:15 CONSULTANT.
12:35:17 AND THEY WERE PLANNING ON BEING DONE WITH THE PROJECT
12:35:22 THIS MONTH AND PROBABLY OTHER PROJECTS LINED UP THEY
12:35:23 WERE MOVING ON TO.
12:35:25 WE KIND OF HAVE TO WORK WITH THEIR SCHEDULE.
12:35:28 MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM WAS THAT TO MAKE THESE
12:35:32 CHANGES AND TO DO IT RIGHT WAS SIX TO EIGHT-MONTH
12:35:32 PERIOD.
12:35:34 COULD IT BE SHORTENED?
12:35:36 MAYBE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM AND ASK
12:35:38 THEM THEIR QUESTION TO GET THEIR INPUT.
12:35:42 WE HAVE CERTAINLY TRIED TO MOVE IT ALONG AS FAST AS WE
12:35:46 COULD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR EVERYBODY.
12:35:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:35:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEEMS LIKE WE OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING
12:35:56 AND WE GET THESE ASTRONOMICAL PRICES.
12:35:58 OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING IN THE CITY AND STAKEHOLDERS WHO
12:36:04 ARE ACCOUNTABLE AND HOLD UP BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF THE
12:36:05 DOLLAR.
12:36:06 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
12:36:12 $89,000 TO REDO SOME PLANS?
12:36:15 I AM THINKING THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE A CITY DEPARTMENT
12:36:16 FOR.
12:36:17 OUTSOURCING.
12:36:19 YOU PAY ALL THIS MONEY.
12:36:21 BUT AS I LOOK AT THOSE DESIGNS.
12:36:26 I GUESS MY REAL QUESTION, MISS ZELMAN, WILL THE CITY BE
12:36:26 LIABLE?
12:36:28 THAT THE QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK.
12:36:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIABILITY GOES BOTH WAYS.
12:36:35 >> OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A LEGAL DEBATE,
12:36:39 BUT NOT TAKE AT FACE VALUE ANY ALLEGATION THAT PUTTING
12:36:43 A DOG PARK ADJACENT TO A BUILDING CREATES LIABILITY.
12:36:44 I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER A NAME.
12:36:48 A RESTAURANT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT THAT OVERLOOKS A
12:36:52 DOG PARK SO IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED.
12:36:55 BUT, NO, IT DOESN'T -- THIS ALLEGATION THAT IT WOULD
12:36:59 IMMEDIATELY CREATE A NUISANCE OF SOME SORT AND PREVENT
12:37:02 THE PROPERTY OWNER FROM BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THE
12:37:02 BUILDING.
12:37:07 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS SUPPORTED BY THE FACTS.
12:37:11 TO BE FAIR, THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT IS, SHOULD
12:37:15 THE COUNCIL OR THE BOARD -- THE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY WANT
12:37:17 TO DIRECT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO RECONSIDER THE
12:37:21 DESIGN, THE CONCEPT WOULD BE, PERHAPS, ONE COULD MAKE
12:37:27 THE ARGUMENT THAT LOOKING AT A REDESIGN TO HELP
12:37:32 FACILITATE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE BUILDING, THERE IS SOME
12:37:35 PUBLIC INTEREST OR MAY BE SOME INTEREST IN THE COUNCIL
12:37:36 DOING THAT, BUT AGAINST THE DISCUSSION THAT THE
12:37:39 ADMINISTRATION HAD WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS THAT
12:37:41 WOULD BE AT THEIR EXPENSE.
12:37:44 AND I WOULD NOTE, THAT IT IS NOT A SIMPLE MATTER OF
12:37:48 JUST DRAWING ON PAPER AND FLIPPING THE DESIGN THAT IS
12:37:51 HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME DESIGN PROCESS THAT WAS
12:37:54 GONE THROUGH IN THE FIRST PLACE.
12:37:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL FINISH WITH THE LAST ONE.
12:37:59 I APOLOGIZE FOR EVERYONE.
12:38:00 EITHER SIDE.
12:38:02 WHEN SOMEONE COMES SOME PLACE AND YOU HAVE A DESIGN
12:38:06 THAT IS 90% COMPLETE AND YOU ASK TO BE CHANGED, I DON'T
12:38:08 KNOW WHO IS LIABLE, BUT IT IS NOT ME.
12:38:10 THANK YOU.
12:38:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:38:16 I AM STILL -- MY OPINION IS THAT THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL
12:38:18 ISSUE, NOT A CRA ISSUE.
12:38:22 AND I THINK THAT ANY MOTION THAT'S SHOULD BE MADE FOR
12:38:26 THIS SHOULD BE AT CITY COUNCIL AT SOME OTHER TIME,
12:38:29 WHETHER IT BE TONIGHT OR SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.
12:38:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM READY TO ENTERTAIN
12:38:33 A MOTION.
12:38:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
12:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE TAMPA CITY
12:38:40 COUNCIL DIRECT THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT TO REOPEN THE
12:38:43 DESIGN PROCESS AS REQUESTED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
12:38:46 OWNER FOR ALLOCATION OF THE DOG AREA SUBJECT TO
12:38:47 FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
12:38:49 A AND B.
12:38:52 DO I NEED TO READ BOTH OF THOSE?
12:38:55 A, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER SHALL BEAR THE
12:38:59 ADDITIONAL COST WITH THE DELAY AND REDESIGN OF THE PARK
12:39:00 PROJECT.
12:39:03 W, AND REDESIGN OF THE PARK SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE
12:39:07 SAME PUBLIC SHEETING/PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT WAS
12:39:10 CONDUCTED IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
12:39:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WE ARE SAYING
12:39:18 HERE THAT ANY COST FROM THAT DAY OCTOBER 4 IS SOMEBODY
12:39:19 ELSE AND NOT THE CITY.
12:39:20 SECOND.
12:39:22 I FOLLOW THAT.
12:39:25 >> DO WE NEED TO HAVE AN YOU AGREEMENT STATING THAT OR
12:39:29 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE SOMEONE BACKS OUT AND SAID I
12:39:30 DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT.
12:39:32 >> AGAIN, ALL YOU WILL BE DOING TODAY IS MAKING A
12:39:35 RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY DIRECT THE
12:39:38 PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT.
12:39:42 SUBJECT TO THOSE CONDITIONS WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT
12:39:44 INTO A WRITTEN AGREEMENT.
12:39:47 AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT LANGUAGE AS WELL.
12:39:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:39:53 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:39:56 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU WILL ACCEPT THAT, I WOULD LIKE
12:39:59 TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
12:40:02 MAYBE C, TO SAY THAT WE ALSO REQUEST THAT THE PARKS
12:40:06 DEPARTMENT EXPEDITE THE PROCESS TO IDEALLY NOT LAST
12:40:10 MORE THAN EIGHT MONTHS.
12:40:16 IS THAT OKAY OR NO?
12:40:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
12:40:18 SOMETHING WILL BE DONE IN EIGHT MONTHS.
12:40:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAKERS OF
12:40:23 THE MOTION WERE AGREEABLE TO THAT.
12:40:26 A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:40:28 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:40:30 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:40:34 OPPOSED, NAY.
12:40:38 >> THE MOTION CARRIES WITH CITRO VOTING NO AND
12:40:41 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT.
12:40:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL BREAK UNTIL 1:45.
12:40:45 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
13:49:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITHOUT OBJECTION FROM THE CRA
13:49:40 MEMBERS, ROLL CALL.
13:49:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
13:49:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
13:49:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
13:49:49 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:49:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEEING FOUR MEMBERS WE WILL PROCEED
13:49:54 AND JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT WITHOUT OBJECTION FROM THE
13:49:58 BOARD, ITEM 6.
13:50:00 MISS ZELMAN.
13:50:05 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SO ITEM 6, AS YOU RECALL, CAME UP IN
13:50:09 THE WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER WHERE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION
13:50:15 ABOUT USING TIF FUNDS FOR WORKS FOR TRAINING, JOB
13:50:20 TRAINING, AND I AGREED TO DO RESEARCH AND COME BACK TO
13:50:21 THE BOARD.
13:50:24 AS YOU RECALL, I ENDED UP DOING IT EARLY AT YOUR
13:50:26 NOVEMBER MEETING.
13:50:31 AND I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, MR.
13:50:35 DINGFELDER, YESTERDAY AND WE AGREED I DON'T NEED TO
13:50:38 RESTATE THE RESULTS OF MY RESEARCH AGAIN UNLESS ANY OF
13:50:40 THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LIKE ME TOO.
13:50:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT YOUR
13:50:45 CONCLUSION WAS?
13:50:47 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: BASICALLY THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER TO
13:50:51 USE TIF FUNDS FOR THINGS LIKE WORKFORCE TRAINING.
13:50:55 AND WHAT I TOLD YOU UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY IN WHICH THE
13:50:58 LEGISLATURE TIGHTENED UP THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE LAST
13:51:01 YEAR AND IN MY RESEARCH AND MY SUGGESTION WITH THE
13:51:03 GENERAL COUNCIL FOR THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT
13:51:07 ASSOCIATION, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT YOU CAN NOT USE TIF
13:51:09 FUNDS FOR THAT TYPE OF PROJECT.
13:51:12 IT HAS TO BE ACTUAL REDEVELOPMENT.
13:51:16 ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT BECAUSE IT CAME UP.
13:51:21 I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER GUDES ASKED AND HE IS NOT
13:51:26 HERE BUT, YES, YOU CAN USE TIF DOLLARS TO BUILD
13:51:29 AFFORDABLE HOUSING -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
13:51:31 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN SPEND IT ON BUT UNFORTUNATELY
13:51:36 YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR THINGS LIKE WORKFORCE OR JOB
13:51:37 TRAINING.
13:51:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
13:51:42 >> THE THING TO HOUSING IS -- WHAT'S THE -- THE
13:51:47 ENABLING ACT FOR CRAS 146.
13:51:49 IT STATES WITHOUT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
13:51:52 IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LAW SETS FOR
13:51:55 AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED TO OUR
13:51:57 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT IS MINISCULE.
13:52:04 SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
13:52:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IT IS
13:52:10 UNFORTUNATE THAT THE STATUTE CONSTRAINS US LIKE THAT
13:52:13 AND SO MUCH NEED TO DO MORE THAN -- SOME OF THESE OTHER
13:52:17 TYPES OF THINGS LIKE TRAINING AND THAT, BUT THE STATUTE
13:52:19 DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
13:52:22 SO YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
13:52:25 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING AND I
13:52:28 TALKED TO SOME OF THE CRA MANAGERS ABOUT THIS.
13:52:33 YOU CAN SPEND THE TIF FUNDS ON THE REDEVELOPMENT AND BE
13:52:36 CREATIVE AND WORK TRAINING AND, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN
13:52:41 HAVE SOME SORT OF TRAINING THAT THEN WAS USED TO
13:52:44 ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT SOME -- PERHAPS THAT IS A WAY IF YOU
13:52:48 ACTUALLY DO REDEVELOP AND TRAINING AT THE SAME TIME.
13:52:53 IT IS JUST PURE STAND-ALONE WORKFORCE TRAINING, ANY
13:52:59 KIND IS NOT WHAT THEY ALLOW.
13:53:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WRAPPING UP NUMBER 6.
13:53:06 UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
13:53:10 MISS ZELMAN SAID GAVE US A REPORT ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO
13:53:14 AGO AND IF UNLESS WE HAD MORE QUESTIONS, WE WILL MOVE
13:53:14 ON.
13:53:15 OKAY.
13:53:17 LET'S SEE.
13:53:21 I AM GOING TO -- ITEM 7.
13:53:23 FACADE GRANTS, ALSO LEGAL.
13:53:26 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT IS ME AND IF YOU RECALL WE
13:53:29 DELAYED IT LAST MONTH BECAUSE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS THE
13:53:32 MAKER OF THE MOTION AND HE WASN'T THERE AND HE IS NOT
13:53:33 HERE AGAIN.
13:53:34 AT YOUR --
13:53:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE THIS UNTIL
13:53:40 JANUARY?
13:53:40 [INAUDIBLE]
13:53:51 DINGFELDER DING OKAY, WE WILL HOLD 7.
13:53:53 JUMPING BACK TO 5.
13:53:57 MR. JOHNSON IS GOING TO SPEAK US TO ABOUT RENOVATIONS
13:54:01 AT FAIR OAKS PARK.
13:54:07 >>ED JOHNSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, ED JOHNSON, CRA MANAGER.
13:54:09 I BROUGHT THE EXPERTS TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK
13:54:11 CONTEMPLATED AND THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED TO FAIR
13:54:12 OAKS.
13:54:20 DIRECTOR AND MANAGER BRAD SUTER WILL DO THE
13:54:20 PRESENTATION.
13:54:24 THEY HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THEY WILL DO AT
13:54:26 THIS TIME.
13:54:28 >> UNTIL OTHERS BELIEVE WE NEED THE OTHER BOARD
13:54:32 MEMBERS, WE ARE COMFORTABLE TO THAT.
13:54:32 OKAY.
13:54:33 GO AHEAD.
13:54:36 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
13:54:40 BRAD SUTER IS OUR NATIONAL RESOURCES SUPERINTENDENT AND
13:54:42 BRAD WILL BE SPEAKING TO PART OF THIS.
13:54:47 WE WERE ASKED TO COME FORWARD TO LOOK AT THE NEEDS
13:54:51 REGARDING THE RENOVATIONS OF FAIR OAKS FOR THE
13:54:56 REPLACEMENT OF FAIR OAKS TO LOOK AT THE FACILITY AND
13:54:59 SEE EXACTLY WHAT ISSUES WE HAD.
13:55:05 WITH THAT, THIS STATES THE REQUEST TO COME BEFORE THE
13:55:06 COUNCIL.
13:55:08 WITH THAT JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURE THERE IS TO SHOW
13:55:09 YOU.
13:55:13 THAT IS THE LAYOUT OF THE -- OF THE FACILITY.
13:55:18 YOU CAN SEE THE CENTER TO THE LEFT -- LOWER LEFT.
13:55:24 THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND ATHLETIC FIELD TO THE RIGHT.
13:55:27 AND BEING IN THE CENTER OF THAT PICTURE, DO YOU HAVE
13:55:30 THE CAPTION THERE THAT IS BLOCKING SOME FOR OUR
13:55:34 AUDIENCE THERE, BUT PROVIDING A PHOTO OF THE FACILITY.
13:55:38 WHAT I WANTED TO DO FIRST, THOUGH, WHEN I THINK I HAD
13:55:40 SEEN THIS ON VIDEO BEFORE, THERE WAS CONVERSATION
13:55:45 RELATED TO DOLLARS FOR THE FACILITY AND IN THE PAST,
13:55:49 AND ABOUT FUNDING WAS AND WAS THERE FUNDING THERE IN
13:55:50 THE PAST AT THIS LOCATION.
13:55:53 AND WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF HISTORY THAT WE
13:55:57 LOOKED BACK THROUGH, AND WE FOUND THAT IN 2008, PROJECT
13:56:01 DESCRIPTION WAS CREATED BY PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THE
13:56:04 POTENTIAL OF DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
13:56:08 AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10,000-SQUARE-FOOT COMMUNITY
13:56:10 CENTER WITH OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SITE.
13:56:15 THE PRELIMINARY COST FOR THIS BACK IN 2008 WATT 3.62
13:56:16 MILLION.
13:56:20 AND THAT INCLUDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CENTER AND THE
13:56:22 PARK ITSELF.
13:56:25 SO WE ARE LOOKING BACK NOW 11 YEARS FROM NOW JUST TO
13:56:26 PROVIDE HISTORY WITH THIS.
13:56:32 IN 2009, WITH -- AND I SHOULD STATE MOST IMPORTANTLY
13:56:35 THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE COST ESTIMATE, BUT IT
13:56:38 WAS NOT IMPROVED IN ANY CAPITAL BUDGET.
13:56:41 SO IT WAS THERE AS A POTENTIAL PROJECT BUT NOT THERE AS
13:56:43 A CAPITAL BUDGET PROJECT.
13:56:47 IN 2009 WITH IT NOT BEING APPROVED, THERE WAS A
13:56:50 DECISION TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS TO THE FACILITY IN 2009
13:56:54 WHICH INCLUDED MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, REST ROOMS, HALLWAY,
13:57:01 WEIGHT ROOM, AND THAT WAS TO THE TUNE OF $63,000 WHERE
13:57:03 SOME IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE TO THE FACILITY.
13:57:11 IN 2010, THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
13:57:15 TOOK A LOOK AT THE ASSESSMENT AND COST WAS $10,000 IN
13:57:16 2010.
13:57:21 IN 2011, THERE WERE PUBLIC MEETINGS RELATED TO THAT.
13:57:24 AND THE COMMUNITY DISCUSSED POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS,
13:57:26 CONSENSUAL PLANS.
13:57:29 AND AT THIS POINT, THERE WAS AN ESTIMATED COST FOR NEW
13:57:35 FACILITY OF 3.9 MILLION, 1.7 OF THAT BEING THE
13:57:36 COMMUNITY CENTER.
13:57:37 THE OTHER WERE PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
13:57:41 IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THAT TIME, FAIR OAKS, THE PROJECT
13:57:45 THERE WAS ONE OF 27 PROJECTS THE PARKS AND RECREATION
13:57:51 SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE FY '12-'16 CAPITAL
13:57:54 IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THROUGH THE CIT TAX.
13:57:57 AND THE PROJECT WAS NOT FUNDED AT THAT TIME.
13:58:00 SO THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, A LOT OF
13:58:02 PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THE PROJECT WAS NOT FUNDED
13:58:04 AT THIS TIME, BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED.
13:58:09 AND IN 2013, MANY OF THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR
13:58:12 IMPROVEMENTS WERE COMPLETED.
13:58:16 PARKS AND RECREATION DID 33,000 WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS,
13:58:20 PLAYGROUND, NEW FITNESS EQUIPMENT, NEW FLOORING IN THE
13:58:21 FITNESS ROOM.
13:58:25 LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT ABOUT $300,000 IN
13:58:28 IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT INCLUDES SOME MAJOR THINGS LIKE
13:58:31 REMOVAL OF THE INTERIOR DRYWALL, REPLACEMENT OF THAT,
13:58:35 FRAMING OUT, AND ADDING ADDITIONAL ROOMS, ROOFING
13:58:39 REPAIRS, NEW ICE MACHINE, A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
13:58:44 TUNE OF THAT -- TO THE -- ABOUT $330,000 IN SEPTEMBER
13:58:47 OF 2013.
13:58:52 WITH THAT, STAFF WAS ASKED TO COME BACK ALSO IN 2013 TO
13:58:55 KIND OF SPEAK TO WHERE WE WERE AND WHAT THE STATUS WAS
13:58:59 OF THE PROJECT AGAIN AT FAIR OAKS.
13:59:04 BUT TO VERIFY AND I AM BEING CLEAR HERE, BUT THAT WE
13:59:08 VERIFIED DURING THESE YEARS HAVEN'T BEEN ANY CAPITAL
13:59:12 PROJECTS, SO WEREN'T DOLLARS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AND
13:59:13 MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
13:59:17 AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO YOU AS WE
13:59:18 WERE LOOKING AT THE ISSUE.
13:59:22 WE THEN ASKED MR. SUITOR TO LOOK AND DO AN ASSESSMENT
13:59:26 LOOKING AT THE LOCATION AND POTENTIAL NEEDS THERE AND
13:59:29 ALSO LOOKING AS IT WAS DIRECTED TO ALSO LOOK AT THE
13:59:32 COST OF SOMETHING TO BE REPLACED.
13:59:37 SO MR. SUTER.
13:59:39 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
13:59:41 PARKS AND RECREATION.
13:59:44 IN LOOKING AT THE CENTER AND IN SPEAKING WITH THE STAFF
13:59:47 THERE, ESSENTIALLY OVERALL THE BUILDING IS IN GOOD
13:59:48 SHAPE.
13:59:51 THERE ARE SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE WHICH
13:59:55 WILL GO A LONG WAY FOR THOSE SHOWING THE CENTER A
13:59:58 LITTLE BIT OF LOVE AND GIVING IT MORE OF A REFRESHED
13:59:59 LOOK.
14:00:02 I WILL JUST GO DOWN A QUICK LIST FOR.
14:00:04 THE RECEPTION DESK COULD USE AN UPGRADE.
14:00:08 RIGHT NOW IT IS KIND OF NOT A REAL NICE ENTRANCE
14:00:12 EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND USERS OF THE FACILITY.
14:00:16 UPDATE THE VTC FLOORING AND NEW CARPET IN THE
14:00:17 MULTIPURPOSE.
14:00:22 REMOVE THE METAL GRATES AND REMOVE WITH IMPACT
14:00:25 RESISTANT WINDOW THAT'S WILL GO A LONG WAY ON THE
14:00:31 GENERAL LOOK OF FACILITY AND VIEWING OUT OF THE
14:00:32 FACILITY.
14:00:34 KITCHEN CABINETS COULD USE AN UPGRADE.
14:00:39 THE DOOR OUTSIDE FROM THE FEMALE REST ROOM IS RUSTED AT
14:00:39 THE BASE.
14:00:41 THAT COULD BE REPLACED.
14:00:46 MINOR WALL REPAIR IN THE GAME ROOM.
14:00:48 MORE DOOR WAYS AND FRAMES.
14:00:51 SOME WALL REPAIR AND PAINT IN THE COMPUTER LAB AND
14:00:54 LIGHT AND NATURAL CONTROLS WITH CEILING TILES THAT
14:00:59 COULD BE REPLACED IN THERE AS WELL.
14:01:03 ON THE EXTERIOR, THEY ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE OVERALL.
14:01:05 AGAIN, SOME IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE USED.
14:01:08 A LOT OF DIRT HAS ERODED AWAY FROM THE SIDEWALKS THAT
14:01:13 COULD BE A POTENTIAL TRIPPING HAZARD.
14:01:15 AND PARKING LOT COULD BE RESTRIPED.
14:01:19 POWER WASH TO THE CENTER AND ALL THE WALKWAYS AND
14:01:22 REPLACE AND RESURFACE THE BASKETBALL COURT.
14:01:24 WE ARE GOING FORWARD INVESTIGATING THE POSSIBILITY OF A
14:01:28 GRANT TO DO THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT.
14:01:32 RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS FOR THAT.
14:01:34 THE ESTIMATES FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS IS ABOUT
14:01:36 $150,000.
14:01:41 COULD BE UP TODAY 200,000 DEPENDING ON THE WINDOWS
14:01:41 SELECTED.
14:01:45 BUT ANY CONCEPTUAL PLANS TO REBUILD OR MASTER PLAN THE
14:01:48 PARK, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC
14:01:51 AND HEAR WHAT THEY DID OR WOULD LUKE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE
14:01:53 DID BEFORE.
14:02:01 THERE WERE SOME REQUESTS BEFORE FOOTBALL FIELD TO BE
14:02:06 INCORPORATED WHAT IS NOW THE SOFTBALL FIELD AND WILL
14:02:13 REQUIRE SMOKE TREES AND TO GO FORWARD TO VACATE THE
14:02:15 TREAT.
14:02:20 AND THE POND PARCEL AND MAKES FOR A BIGGER PARK.
14:02:22 AND MOVE FORWARD TO REPLACE THE CENTER.
14:02:25 THE CENTER IS 7385 SQUARE FEET.
14:02:30 THE CITY'S COST FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT $400 PER
14:02:35 SQUARE FOOT AND PLUS CONSULTANT FEES PLUS OR MINUS 20%
14:02:41 WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE OVER $2.3 MILLION FOR A NEW
14:02:42 CENTER OF EQUAL SIZE.
14:02:46 EXPANDED THE CURRENT FACILITY WITH THE SAME $400 PER
14:02:47 SQUARE FOOT.
14:02:51 A 100,000 EXPANSION WOULD.
14:02:55 200-SQUARE-FOOT EXPANSION IS $800,000.
14:02:58 I AM BREAKING IT OUT BECAUSE DEPENDS ON WHAT PROGRAM IS
14:03:05 NEEDED THERE OR DESIRED.
14:03:08 THE BONES OF THE STRUCTURE IS GOOD.
14:03:10 HIGHLIGHTED THE NUMBER IMPROVEMENTS OVER YEARS AND WE
14:03:14 COULD BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF MAGNITUDE OF
14:03:17 EXPENDITURE FOR THE CENTER ITSELF.
14:03:20 WITH ANY OF THESE EXPANSIONS, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER
14:03:23 THE CONSULTANT FEES ON THE SIZE OF THE EXPANSION AND
14:03:26 THE ORIGINAL OPERATING COST FOR NOT ONLY THE BASICS OF
14:03:34 POWER, WATER AND ELECTRIC AND STAFFING AS WELL.
14:03:37 WITH THOSE SAID, SEVERAL AVENUES WE COULD GO.
14:03:40 THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS REALLY BEST TO SERVE THE
14:03:41 COMMUNITY?
14:03:44 AND MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE WE STARTED A MASTER PLAN
14:03:53 PROCESS FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT MASTER PLAN WILL NOT
14:03:57 ONLY LOOK AT EXISTING AND THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS THAT
14:04:00 WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO AND WHICH PROGRAMS ARE
14:04:02 NEEDED AND IN WHAT AREA.
14:04:05 THAT PUTS A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT EXPANSION OR REPLACEMENT
14:04:08 AND WHAT SERVICES WILL BE OFFERED THERE FOR THE PUBLIC,
14:04:11 AND I THINK THAT WILL BE PROBABLY BEST DEFINED WHEN WE
14:04:14 LOOK AT IT CITY WIDE THROUGH THE WHOLE MASTER PLAN
14:04:17 PROCESS.
14:04:20 >> QUESTIONS?
14:04:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:04:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE ESTIMATED COST, THE $400 A SQUARE
14:04:26 FOOT.
14:04:33 IS THAT WHAT I SAW?
14:04:35 HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THAT FORMULA?
14:04:36 $400.
14:04:38 >> $400 A SQUARE FOOT?
14:04:41 THAT IS WHAT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION IS ADVISING US
14:04:45 THAT PRICES ARE COMING IN ON BID PROJECTS RIGHT NOW.
14:04:50 THAT IS THEIR AVERAGE OF -- AND IT GOES A LITTLE BIT
14:04:52 LOWER ON LEVELS OF MAGNITUDE.
14:04:56 YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF COST SAVINGS WHEN YOU BUILD
14:04:57 BIGGER.
14:05:00 BUT THEY SAY RIGHT NOW IN THE CLIMATE THAT WE ARE IN
14:05:03 AND THE BOON THAT WE ARE IN AND THE DEMAND THAT IS OUT
14:05:10 THERE, CITY WORK IS COSTING $400 A SQUARE FOOT.
14:05:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CITY WORK.
14:05:15 IT MEANS THEY ARE JACKING THE GOVERNMENT.
14:05:19 >> PRIVATE SECTOR IS DIFFERENT THAN PUBLIC SECTOR.
14:05:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS.
14:05:23 TO ME THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
14:05:29 AND I TALKED TO SOME OTHER FRIENDS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT
14:05:32 ENTITIES AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT
14:05:32 IT.
14:05:35 $400 A SQUARE FOOT.
14:05:37 MY FAMILY IS IN CONSTRUCTION.
14:05:40 I SEE THAT NUMBER, I AM LIKE HOLY SMOKES.
14:05:42 SOMEBODY IS GETTING FAT REAL QUICK.
14:05:44 REAL QUICK.
14:05:50 I JUST THINK WE -- WE MAY NEED TO RE-EVALUATE SOME OF
14:05:50 THIS.
14:05:53 I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS OUT THERE, BUT I ALWAYS
14:05:55 USE THE TERM "HUNGRY."
14:05:57 SOMEBODY IS HUNGRY.
14:06:02 AND YOU GOT TO KEEP PUTTING IT OUT FOR BID, YOU GOT TO
14:06:03 KEEP PUTTING IT OUT.
14:06:08 THAT PRICE FOR ME IS JUST WAY INFLATED AND I THINK
14:06:11 SOMEBODY IS HUNGRY AND WILL GIVE YOU A BETTER PRICE.
14:06:14 THOSE PRICES THERE, I CAN'T SEE IT.
14:06:18 IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE -- BECAUSE IT IS
14:06:21 GOVERNMENT AND THEY FEEL WE HAVE MONEY AND YOU TRY TO
14:06:24 WORK FOR THE PUBLIC, GIVE THE PUBLIC THE BEST NEEDS YOU
14:06:28 CAN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE GET HAMMER AT $400 PER
14:06:29 SQUARE FOOT ON PROJECTS.
14:06:34 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AS FAR AS IT RELATES, THE
14:06:36 COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE AWARE.
14:06:40 YOU GIVE THUS INFORMATION, AND MR. JOHNSON NEEDS A
14:06:42 COMMUNITY REGARDING FAIR OAKS WITH THESE NUMBERS.
14:06:47 AND AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER, AS IT RELATES TO WHAT
14:06:50 HAPPENED SO PEOPLE ASSUME THAT MONEY WAS THERE WHEN IT
14:06:51 WASN'T.
14:06:54 PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED SO THERE
14:06:58 IS NO GRAY AREA OF WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
14:07:01 SO I THINK -- I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION LATER IN
14:07:06 REFERENCE TO MR. JON REGARDING FAIR OAKS AND GOING OUT
14:07:11 AND EXPLAINING THE COST FACTORS VERSUS REPAIRS AND
14:07:15 SOMETIMES DO YOU A LOT OF AESTHETICS TO MAKE THE PLACE
14:07:18 LOOK LIKE IT IS BRAND-NEW.
14:07:19 HAPPENS AS WELL AS TEARING IT DOWN.
14:07:23 THE BUILDING IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND MAKE SURE THERE
14:07:28 IS NO CREEPY CRITTERS INSIDE THE DRYWALL AND SO FORTH.
14:07:31 MAYBE THE COMMUNITY WILL BE HAPPY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE
14:07:34 NEED TO PUT IT TO THAT AND COME BACK AND FROM THAT
14:07:34 POINT.
14:07:38 BUT I CAN'T SAY ANY PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES
14:07:42 BUILT IN MY DISTRICT, WE ARE GOING TO ASK THAT THESE
14:07:47 RFPS -- THESE NUMBERS HERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
14:07:51 BUILDING GOOD STUFF AND GETTING A GOOD DOLLAR FOR OUR
14:07:55 BUCK BECAUSE $400 PER SQUARE FOOT IS NOT A GOOD BANG
14:07:57 FOR OUR BUCK.
14:07:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:08:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, GENTLEMEN, FOR THE
14:08:03 COMPREHENSIVE SORT OF HISTORICAL REPORT.
14:08:08 I KIND OF REMEMBER IN THE '07, '08 CONTEXT WHEN THIS
14:08:10 ISSUE WAS UP THE LAST TIME.
14:08:15 IT IS A SHAME THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE MORE PROGRESS OR
14:08:16 JUMPED INTO IT.
14:08:19 BUT OBVIOUSLY THE RECESSION KIND OF KNOCKED US BACK A
14:08:24 LITTLE BIT IN REGARDS TO REALLY DOING MAJOR, MAJOR
14:08:27 IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE FACILITY AS WELL AS OTHERS AROUND
14:08:27 THE CITY.
14:08:32 WITH THAT SAID, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN
14:08:36 PROCESS, AND I WANTED TO KNOW, PAUL, PERHAPS -- OR
14:08:40 EITHER ONE OF YOU WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF PUTTING OUT
14:08:46 AN RFQ -- OR RFP FOR A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT AND WHAT
14:08:50 IS OUR TIME FRAME ON THAT AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON
14:08:53 THIS WHOLE PROCESS WHEN WE SEE THE END RESULT?
14:08:57 >> WELL, WE HAVE CREATED THE EIGHT PUBLIC MEETINGS WE
14:08:59 HAVE DONE INTERNALLY WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT.
14:09:01 WE COMPLETED THEM ABOUT A WEEK AGO.
14:09:04 WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE
14:09:05 CONSULTANT.
14:09:10 AND WE WILL BE MEETING WITH ALL OF THOSE FIRMS AND
14:09:14 EVALUATING THE PROJECT THEY PROVIDE.
14:09:16 REGARDING THE TIMELINE THAT IS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
14:09:19 WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM, WE WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
14:09:22 SO AT THIS POINT, UNTIL WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH
14:09:26 THEM WHAT ALL IS EXPECTED, WHAT ALL IS EXPECTED FROM
14:09:29 THE CONSULTANT, IT WILL BE A TEAM APPROACH.
14:09:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS YOUR BEST GUESS IN TERMS --
14:09:35 OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO COME ON BOARD, DO THE WORK,
14:09:40 MASSAGE IT WITH YOU GUYS AND COME OUT WITH THE FINAL
14:09:41 PRODUCTS.
14:09:44 WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR NEXT SUMMER OR SOMETHING LIKE
14:09:45 THAT?
14:09:47 >> WE EXPECT A RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR IN LATE
14:09:48 JANUARY.
14:09:51 PRESENTATIONS ARE SCHEDULED FOR MID-JANUARY RIGHT NOW
14:09:56 BY THE FIRMS, SO WE WILL DO THAT EVALUATION AFTER THAT.
14:09:59 AND MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR TO BE APPROVED
14:10:03 BY CITY COUNCIL AND WE WILL GET RIGHT TO WORK.
14:10:06 I WOULD SAY MORE OF A SPRINGTIME START.
14:10:10 OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE THE MASTER PLAN WRAPPED UP IN A
14:10:13 LITTLE -- LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR OR ABOUT A YEAR.
14:10:16 THAT IS KIND OF THE TIME FRAME WE ARE LOOKING.
14:10:19 WHAT IS REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS
14:10:25 IN PLACE THAT WE DO FISCAL PLANNING FOR THE CYCLE THAT
14:10:28 STARTS A YEAR FROM THIS SUMMER.
14:10:29 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:10:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:10:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU GO BACK TO THE RENOVATION BUDGET
14:10:44 PLEASE.
14:10:47 >> THE EXPANSION OR JUST --
14:10:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THE RENOVATION.
14:10:51 >> I AM SORRY.
14:10:53 THE ASSESSMENT.
14:10:55 >>BILL CARLSON: GO UP ONE.
14:11:01 GO UP LIKE A SLIDE OR TWO.
14:11:04 YEAH, THAT ONE.
14:11:05 >> IT'S NOT UP.
14:11:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN SEE IT HERE.
14:11:08 BUT DO WE HAVE IT UP NOW?
14:11:09 OKAY.
14:11:14 I -- BASED ON THE FEEDBACK I HAVE HEARD AND MY
14:11:17 COLLEAGUES MAY HAVE HEARD MORE, BUT THERE IS SUCH A
14:11:21 DRUMBEAT TO GET SOMETHING DONE AT THIS FACILITY, I
14:11:26 WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PARALLEL TO WHAT OTHER PLANNING
14:11:29 PROCESS AND POTENTIALLY BUILDING NEW.
14:11:33 I RECOMMEND WE ALLOCATE $150,000 TODAY 200,000 TO DO
14:11:35 THESE BASIC RENOVATIONS.
14:11:39 YOU SHOWED THE HISTORY OF HOW THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN
14:11:40 IGNORED.
14:11:43 AND THE CITY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON DOWNTOWN AND THE
14:11:46 PARK AND OTHER PLACES AND DIDN'T SPEND ANYTHING TO HELP
14:11:49 KEEP THIS PARK UP TO DATE.
14:11:52 THE KATE JACKSON PARK IN MY DISTRICT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:11:56 GETS UPSET WHEN THE WRONG KIND OF WINDOW GETS PUT IN
14:12:00 AND THE FACILITY IS BEAUTIFUL STILL AND WELL-KEPT.
14:12:02 BUT THIS ONE HAS ALL KIND OF PROBLEMS INCLUDING RATS IN
14:12:06 IT UNTIL A MONTH OR SO AGO WHEN WE PASSED A MOTION TO
14:12:07 GET RID OF THEM.
14:12:12 DO WE HAVE 150,000 OR 200,000 IN THAT CRA?
14:12:14 DO WE KNOW?
14:12:16 MR. JOHNSON?
14:12:20 CAN WE --
14:12:24 >>ED JOHNSON: ED JOHNSON CRA MANAGER.
14:12:28 WE HAVE $150,000 TODAY 200,000 IN OUR FUND.
14:12:31 OUR BALANCE IS NORTH OF $3 MILLION IN NEIGHBORHOOD
14:12:32 INFRASTRUCTURE.
14:12:35 YOU CAN MAKE A REQUEST TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
14:12:38 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES MR.
14:12:40 GUDES.
14:12:44 IF YOU TURN THAT -- I CAN MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION BUT
14:12:48 HAVE YOU WHAT SAID IN MOTION, HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT
14:12:50 THAT YOU ALLOCATE -- YOU WOULD PROPOSE HAVING A PUBLIC
14:12:53 MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE PARK, BUT WHAT
14:12:56 I WOULD PROPOSE AS PART OF THAT, SAY THAT WE HAVE
14:13:02 ALLOCATED $200,000 -- UP TO $200,000 FOR RENOVATIONS
14:13:05 AND -- AND SAY HERE IS WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT AWAY FROM
14:13:08 THIS BUDGET AND BEING PUT ON THAT AND GETTING PUT ON
14:13:12 THE LONGER TERM SO WE CAN FIX THE SHORT-TERM AND LONG
14:13:13 TERM.
14:13:15 >> NOW I MAY ASK THIS WILL STILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE
14:13:18 ADVISORY COMMITTEE?
14:13:20 >> BUY IS HOPE THAT YOU ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
14:13:23 >> WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO SPEND THE CRA MONEY
14:13:25 >> THE CRA BOARD CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
14:13:28 THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES BY LAW ARE JUST ADVISORY
14:13:31 COMMITTEES SET UP TO GIVE US INFORMATION WHAT THE
14:13:33 PUBLIC WANTS.
14:13:35 >> THAT IS THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO TAKE, YOU CAN
14:13:37 DIRECT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO DO THAT.
14:13:40 >> YEAH, THEY ARE NOT -- THEY ARE BOARDS WITHOUT ANY
14:13:42 AUTHORITY, AS I UNDERSTAND.
14:13:45 >> THEY MAKE -- THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
14:13:50 THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
14:13:51 >> IF YOU ALL WANT -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO
14:13:54 ADD TO YOUR MOTION OR CREATE A SEPARATE ONE BUT ALSO
14:13:57 ADD WE WANT TO GO THROUGH PUBLIC PROCESS -- A PUBLIC
14:14:01 MEETING BUT ALSO TO THE CAC TO GIVE ADVICE.
14:14:04 POINT IS WE HAVE -- SET ASIDE A BUDGET TO DO SOMETHING
14:14:11 NOW AND WE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
14:14:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE --
14:14:14 [INAUDIBLE]
14:14:24 -- THAT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETING FIRST TO GIFT OPTION
14:14:28 OF SAYING NEW BUILDING -- OR NEW BUILDING LATER OR DO
14:14:32 IMPROVEMENTS NOW, I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS
14:14:35 THAT WE WERE FACED IT.
14:14:37 >> NEED DOLLARS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
14:14:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CIT DOLLARS, BUT THAT IS A
14:14:45 DOWN-THE-ROAD ISSUE AND OPTIONS THAT WE PROCEED AND
14:14:49 SOMETHING IS BEING DONE AND THEY ARE NOT SAYING THAT WE
14:14:50 ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
14:14:53 AND THEY ARE ALWAYS SAYING WE ARE INTERFERING.
14:14:56 I WOULD LIKE A MEETING THE COMMUNITY AND LET THEM DO
14:14:59 THE WHOLE ASSESSMENT AND GIFT HISTORY OF THE PARK, WHAT
14:15:03 HAPPENED, SO THEY WON'T TAKING A FALSE NARRATIVE THIS
14:15:05 IS WHERE THIS MONEY WENT AND HERE.
14:15:08 AND WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT AND NO MONEY THAT WAS
14:15:09 ALLOCATED.
14:15:10 THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT.
14:15:14 AND, AGAIN, I HAVE NO ISSUE ABOUT THE MONEY TO PUT
14:15:18 RENOVATION, BUT I WOULD RATHER FROM A MEETING WHERE ALL
14:15:23 OF THEM MEET AND THE CRA BOARD IS THERE AT THAT MEETING
14:15:26 AND THEY CAN COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND PROMISE TO BE
14:15:29 DONE AND DOWN THE ROAD, IF IT NEEDS TO HAVE WHATEVER,
14:15:35 THAT IS A PLAN TO DO.
14:15:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED?
14:15:39 >> I THINK WE ARE ALMOST SAYING THE SAME THING.
14:15:42 MY CONCERN IS THAT WE SAY EXPRESSLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO
14:15:45 GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE BUDGET IN ADVANCE AND SAY WE
14:15:48 WANT TO GET RENOVATIONS DONE IMMEDIATELY.
14:15:50 WE KNOW THAT IS NOT THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
14:15:54 WE WANT YOUR INPUT ON THE LONG-TERM AND SHORT-TERM
14:15:58 SOLUTION BUT ALLOCATED $1,000 TO GET SOMETHING DONE
14:15:58 RIGHT AWAY.
14:16:01 A STRONG SIGNAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
14:16:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE ARE MORE RENOVATIONS THAT --
14:16:11 WITH MR. SUTER AND HIS TEAM.
14:16:14 AND WILL KNOW IT IS ANOTHER EXPENSE.
14:16:15 WE SAY WE HAVE THIS BUDGETED.
14:16:17 WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO ALLOCATE SOMETHING
14:16:21 TO THE PARK, BUT MY THING IS I WOULD RATHER THE
14:16:25 COMMUNITY SAY YES, WE SEE WHAT THEY MADE BUT DIDN'T ADD
14:16:26 THIS ON THE ASSESSMENT.
14:16:27 THAT IS JUST MY POSITION ON IT.
14:16:31 THE BOARD CAN VOTE AS IT CHOOSES, BUT I THINK WE NEED
14:16:34 TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND LET THEM KNOW WE
14:16:40 CONSTRUCTED MR. JOHNSON TO FOR FAIR OAKS AND HAVE THE
14:16:43 PARKS DIRECTOR THERE AND TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE
14:16:50 PARK AND WHERE THEY ARE AT TODAY AND MR. MR. SUTER'S --
14:16:52 AND HERES IS TO RENOVATE OR KNOCK DOWN.
14:16:54 AND WE GO FROM THERE.
14:16:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
14:17:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
14:17:01 A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
14:17:06 I -- YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUPPORT THE $150,000, BUT I
14:17:11 WOULD DEFER TO COUNCILMAN GUDES BY THE METHOD HE WOULD
14:17:12 LIKE TO GO THERE.
14:17:13 A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
14:17:16 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WORKSHOP ABLE TO GIVE FOR TAMPA
14:17:20 CITY COUNCIL IF MY DISTRICT, I SOLICITED THE MAYOR'S
14:17:23 OFFICE FOR TACOMA AND COPELAND PARK.
14:17:26 AND AS YOU KNOW WE ARE DOING THOSE AS DAYS OF SERVICE
14:17:28 WHERE WE PROMOTE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
14:17:31 WE ARE DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO BEAUTIFY THE PARK
14:17:33 AND MAKE IT INTO A COMMUNITY.
14:17:35 WHENEVER THAT DAY COMES, I THINK THAT WILL BE SOMETHING
14:17:37 THAT IS GREAT TO DO.
14:17:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES, I REMEMBER ON FIRST DAY OF CITY
14:17:43 COUNCIL THAT WE CAME HERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
14:17:46 WANTING TO GET IN YOUR DISTRICT INCLUDING IN EAST TAMPA
14:17:49 DISABILITY-FRIENDLY EQUIPMENT.
14:17:52 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THERE, BUT
14:17:55 MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT FOR THE YOUNG
14:17:58 PEOPLE IN FAIR OAKS WHO MAY HAVE EITHER SENSORY
14:18:02 CHALLENGES OR PHYSICAL CHALLENGES, FOLKS WHO ARE JUST
14:18:03 IN WHEELCHAIRS.
14:18:06 LET ME ASK YOU, GENTLEMEN, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IN THAT
14:18:09 PARK, ANY DISABILITY FRIENDLY -- OFF THE TOP OF YOUR
14:18:13 HEAD -- PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IF YOU GUYS KNOW?
14:18:15 >> THERE IS SOME AND DISCUSSED IN FRONT OF YOU ALL
14:18:17 BEFORE, THERE COULD BE MORE.
14:18:18 IT COULD BE BETTER.
14:18:24 THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME OF THAT.
14:18:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THING IS GREAT AND I DEFER TO MY FRIEND
14:18:30 AND COLLEAGUES COUNCILMAN GUDES BECAUSE HE REPRESENTS
14:18:31 THAT AREA.
14:18:34 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE PART OF THE
14:18:38 COMMUNITY NARRATIVE AND DOESN'T COST A WHOLE HECK OF A
14:18:42 LOT OF MONEY BUT IS IMPORTANT FOR THOSE RAISING A KID
14:18:48 WITH CEREBRAL PALSY, AUTISM, A FRIENDLY GESTURE.
14:18:53 IF I MAY, GENTLEMEN, I NEED TO LEAVE TO PICK UP MY SON.
14:18:56 I NEED TWO HOURS WITH HIM TO STUDY FOR FINALS BEFORE
14:18:58 CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
14:19:02 SO IF YOU GUYS WILL EXCUSE ME.
14:19:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:19:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, I HOPE DO YOU WELL ON
14:19:07 YOUR TEST.
14:19:08 [ LAUGHTER ]
14:19:10 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL MAKE SURE HE DOES, TRUST ME.
14:19:11 THANK YOU.
14:19:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST HAD ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS.
14:19:17 YOU MENTIONED A GRANT.
14:19:19 THE POSSIBILITY OF SEEKING A GRANT.
14:19:22 I WANTED TO PURSUE THAT FOR A SECOND.
14:19:26 WHAT WERE YOU -- WHERE WERE YOU REFERRING TO?
14:19:29 >> ONE OUR STAFF MEMBERS IS PURSUING IT.
14:19:31 I DON'T KNOW THE NAME.
14:19:33 >> I BELIEVE IT IS THE NRPA.
14:19:41 THE NATIONAL PARK RECREATION GRANT WITH RESURFACING THE
14:19:43 BASKETBALL COURT.
14:19:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT A GRANT FOR THE WHOLE THING?
14:19:49 >> NO ONE SPECIFIC PARK IMPROVEMENT THAT IS THERE.
14:19:52 I BELIEVE THE MAX IS $25,000 ON THAT YOU?
14:19:53 $26,000.
14:19:56 THAT IS NOT AT ALL CONFIRMED.
14:19:57 WE ARE PURSUING THAT.
14:19:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WILL PURSUE THAT NO MATTER
14:20:00 WHAT.
14:20:03 I LIKE WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING.
14:20:05 I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS COME DOWN HERE AND SPOKEN
14:20:10 VERY LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT THE NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO
14:20:14 EITHER UPGRADE THAT FACILITY AND OR KNOCK IT DOWN AND
14:20:17 REBUILD IT, ONE OR THE OTHER.
14:20:23 BUT IN THE SHORT-TERM, I WOULD BE TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF
14:20:28 -- OF FUNDING -- YOU KNOW FUNDING $150,000 OR $200,000.
14:20:30 AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU SAYS IT $150,000
14:20:35 INEVITABLY IT WILL BE $200,000.
14:20:37 THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE ON THAT IS WE ARE
14:20:41 TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT WITH CRA MONEY, BUT TYPICALLY
14:20:45 DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE MAINTENANCE?
14:20:50 I MEAN NOT CIT MONEY BUT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING TYPE
14:20:53 OF FUNDING THAT WILL COME OUT OF CITY FUNDING TO DO
14:20:54 THIS SORT OF THING ALSO?
14:20:57 >> WE DO, HOWEVER, IT WAS NOTHING THAT WAS IN THIS
14:21:02 YEAR'S BUDGET -- THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
14:21:06 THE REALITY IS 194 PARKS, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS.
14:21:09 IF WE WERE TO ABSORB IT THROUGHOUT BUDGET, THERE WOULD
14:21:12 BE AN IMPACT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
14:21:14 SOMETHING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
14:21:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE MAKE A TOTAL DECISION
14:21:21 THAT IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY CRA, I HOPE YOU MIGHT
14:21:24 EXPLORE SHARING IT BETWEEN THE CITY BUDGET AND THE CRA.
14:21:28 WE HAVE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS SPECIFICALLY FROM EAST TAMPA,
14:21:31 YOU KNOW, SAYING, DON'T TAKE IT FROM THE CRA BUDGET
14:21:34 WHEN THE CITY SHOULD BE MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
14:21:38 SO, ANYWAY, LET'S -- LET'S GET THESE THINGS FIXED BUT
14:21:41 PERHAPS LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT.
14:21:46 MAYBE IT IS A 50/50 SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO BUDGETS OR
14:21:46 SOMETHING.
14:21:49 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
14:21:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
14:21:54 HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET THIS -- CAN YOU GIVE US
14:21:57 THIS REPORT BACK BY NEXT CRA MEETING?
14:21:59 >> ON OUR PROGRESS?
14:22:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON THE $150,000 IF THAT IS THE NUMBER
14:22:04 WE ARE PROPOSING.
14:22:07 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:22:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM GET THAT
14:22:11 MEETING --
14:22:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING TO MAKE A
14:22:14 DECISION.
14:22:16 >> WHAT I WOULD ENVISION CRUISE TO -- CORRECT ME IF I'M
14:22:20 WRONG, FOR US TO ATTEND THIS MEETING, HEAR WHAT THESE
14:22:24 ITEMS ARE, SEE IF IT ADJUSTS OUR LIST AND THEN WE WOULD
14:22:27 BE THEN BE ABLE TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT OF
14:22:31 THE FIGURE FROM THERE AS WELL AT THAT TIME.
14:22:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. JOHNSON, CAN YOU GET THAT DONE
14:22:37 BEFORE THE NEXT CRA MEETING?
14:22:39 >>ED JOHNSON: NO.
14:22:41 WE DO NOT HAVE A MEETING UNTIL FEBRUARY.
14:22:44 BECAUSE WE POSTPONED THE DECEMBER AND JANUARY MEETINGS
14:22:47 BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS AND CHRISTMAS EVENT WE ARE
14:22:48 HAVING TOMORROW NIGHT.
14:22:51 WE ARE NOT HAVING A MEETING IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
14:22:55 OUR NEXT MEETING WON'T BE UNTIL FEBRUARY.
14:23:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING
14:23:00 --
14:23:03 >> BUT YOU ARE GOING TO BE AT THE MERCY OF WHOEVER
14:23:04 SHOWS UP.
14:23:05 YOU CAN SCHEDULE THOSE.
14:23:08 DEPENDS ON HOW GET.
14:23:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FAR ENOUGH IN ADVANCE?
14:23:13 >> WOULD YOU HAVE TO -- AT LEAST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
14:23:18 NOTIFICATION TO BE ABLE TO CIRCULATE THAT AROUND THE
14:23:23 COMMUNITY AND GET PEOPLE'S INTEREST TO COME THERE.
14:23:28 SO WE CAN SHOOT FOR -- WE CAN SHOOT FOR A JANUARY
14:23:31 MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY.
14:23:34 WE WILL PUT OUT A CALL.
14:23:40 CALL A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PARTNERSHIP AND
14:23:42 INTERESTED PARTIES FOR SOME TIME IN JANUARY AND SEE
14:23:43 WHAT WE HIT.
14:23:46 AND COME BACK IN FEBRUARY.
14:23:49 >> JUST ADVERTISING IT AT -- AT THE FACILITY ITSELF
14:23:54 SHOULD DRAW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AS WELL.
14:23:56 >> SO I THINK IF WE CAN GET A COMMUNITY -- IT DOESN'T
14:23:59 HAVE TO BE -- IF WE GET A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR
14:24:02 THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE IN JANUARY.
14:24:04 SOME TIME IN JANUARY, BY THAT FEBRUARY MEETING, WE
14:24:13 SHOULD HAVE OUR ANSWERS.
14:24:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
14:24:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE, GO AHEAD.
14:24:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE A MOTION THAT THE EAST TAMPA
14:24:24 GENERAL MANAGER HAVE A MEETING FOR THE ASSESSMENT OF
14:24:27 FAIR OAKS PARK WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE PARKS AND
14:24:30 RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND CAC MEMBERS OR WHATEVER
14:24:34 COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE THERE
14:24:38 AND BRING BACK FOR A PARTICULAR VOTE WITH A FAIR
14:24:40 ANALYSIS.
14:24:43 >> A MOTION TO BE MADE SECONDED.
14:24:47 MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
14:24:49 DINGFELDER.
14:24:51 ALL IN FAVOR.
14:24:53 , ALL OPPOSED.
14:24:57 >>CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND MANISCALCO
14:24:58 ABSENT AT VOTE.
14:25:02 WILL THAT BE SCHEDULED FOR THE FEBRUARY AGENDA?
14:25:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
14:25:04 >> THANK YOU.
14:25:08 >> WE WILL BE GLAD WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AS WELL TO
14:25:11 PROMOTE THIS AND MARKET IT TO THE COMMUNITY SO THEY
14:25:12 KNOW IT.
14:25:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:25:16 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE URGENTLY
14:25:18 BECAUSE WE HEARD SO MUCH FROM THE COMMUNITY.
14:25:22 AND I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES PROPOSES IS EXACTLY
14:25:26 WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT WE
14:25:29 OUGHT TO PREAPPROVE UP TO -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
14:25:33 MOTION TO PREAPPROVE UP TO $200,000 FOR NEEDED
14:25:37 RENOVATIONS SUBJECT TO THE COMMUNITY INPUT AT THE
14:25:41 PUBLIC MEETING THAT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED, AND SUBJECT TO
14:25:44 THE POSSIBILITY OF FINDING MATCHING MONEY FROM THE CITY
14:25:48 TO COVER SOME OF THE $200,000.
14:25:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:25:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:25:56 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
14:25:57 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:25:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION.
14:26:00 MAYBE JUST SEMANTICS.
14:26:05 WHEN WE SAY "PREAPPROVED,"MAYBE IT IS A SIGNAL THAT IT
14:26:11 IS OUR INTENT TO -- TO ULTIMATELY FUND THIS --
14:26:14 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SAY APPROVED?
14:26:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I THINK APPROVED IS WAY
14:26:18 PREMATURE.
14:26:22 I AM JUST SAYING MAYBE IT IS OUR INTENT -- IT'S OUR
14:26:27 INTENT TO FIND THAT THIS $200,000 FOR THE COMMUNITY
14:26:30 THROUGH THE CRA AND OR THE CITY.
14:26:32 IT IS OUR INTENT.
14:26:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AN INDIVIDUAL MOTION -- SAME THING --
14:26:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE TRYING TO UP IT TO BE A
14:26:39 LITTLE STRONGER?
14:26:41 >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT
14:26:45 WE WOULD -- WE WOULD APPROVE A BUDGET OF $200,000
14:26:48 SUBJECT TO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY HOW THE
14:26:52 $200,000 SHOULD BE SPENT, AND SUBJECT TO THE
14:26:56 POSSIBILITY THAT THE CITY WOULD SUBSIDIZE PART OF IT.
14:26:59 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO
14:27:01 WAIT UNTIL AFTER THIS MEETING AND THEN WE HAVE TO
14:27:03 APPROVE IT AGAIN.
14:27:06 INSTEAD WE CAN SAY THAT WE MADE THE SIGNAL THAT WE WILL
14:27:09 APPROVE IT.
14:27:12 [INAUDIBLE]
14:27:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT IT WAS CLEAR AND THE SAME
14:27:15 MOTION YOU ARE MAKING.
14:27:18 I ALREADY SAID I WOULD DO THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE
14:27:21 THAT THE COMMUNITY -- IF THERE IS ANYTHING TO BE ADDED
14:27:25 IF I COME BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE OUGHT TO UP THAT THEN.
14:27:26 WE CAN UP THAT AND MAKE THE APPROVAL.
14:27:30 WE ALREADY SAID THAT WE ARE ALREADY THERE, WE WANT TO
14:27:33 MAKE SURE WHAT ELSE THE COMMUNITY MIGHT NEED AND WANT
14:27:35 AND WE ARE AT TARGET.
14:27:39 I THOUGHT THAT WAS -- WAS THE MOTION I WAS MAKING.
14:27:42 BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT TO IT, OKAY.
14:27:45 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, THE DIFFERENCE I SAW YOURS IS
14:27:48 ABOUT HOLDING A PUBLIC MEETING TO GET PUBLIC INPUT.
14:27:50 THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT I WAS SAYING WE GO AHEAD AND
14:27:56 WERE HE APPROVE THE $200,000.
14:27:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HATE TO BE A REFEREE.
14:28:00 YOURS IS FINE AND HIS -- WHAT HE IS SAYING BEFORE YOU
14:28:04 HAVE THING, HE WANTS EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THE INTENT
14:28:08 THE COUNSEL IS TO GO UP TODAY 200,000 IF THEY AGREE.
14:28:14 THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, I THINK.
14:28:17 [LAUGHTER]
14:28:20 >> I AM COMING TO THE MICROPHONE.
14:28:23 HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL GOT ONE VOTE.
14:28:25 THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY COUNCILMAN
14:28:26 CARLSON.
14:28:28 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:28:32 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:28:33 OPPOSED?
14:28:35 >> I ASK THAT THE MOTION BE STATED IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR
14:28:36 THE RECORD.
14:28:37 [LAUGHTER]
14:28:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU RESTATE
14:28:45 YOUR MOTION?
14:28:48 DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT?
14:28:48 [LAUGHTER]
14:28:50 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, I WILL REPHRASE IT.
14:28:55 THE INTENT OF COUNCIL TO ALLOCATE -- THE INTENT OF THE
14:29:03 CRA TO ALLOCATE UP TO $200,000 FOR RENOVATIONS --
14:29:08 IMMEDIATE RENOVATIONS OF THE FAIR OAKS PARK COMMUNITY
14:29:13 CENTER SUBJECT TO FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE
14:29:18 CAC ON WHATEVER DATE THAT WAS --
14:29:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JANUARY.
14:29:23 >>BILL CARLSON: AND SUBJECT TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT
14:29:30 THE CITY PARKS BUDGET MAY COVER PART OF THE COST.
14:29:33 >> THANK YOU.
14:29:41 SCYTHE LET'S MOVE ON --
14:29:44 >> THE WHOLE REASON I WANTED TO DO THAT YOU SEE EVERY
14:29:46 THURSDAY WE HAVE A LINE-UP OF FOLKS AND THEY ARE NOT
14:29:49 COMPLETELY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY BUT
14:29:53 YOU GET CALLS AND E-MAILS TOO AND THE COMMITTEE WANTS
14:29:55 US TO TAKE ACTION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND MY CONCERN
14:29:57 ESPECIALLY IF WE LOOK AT THE POSSIBLE COMPLETE
14:30:00 RENOVATION OR TEAR DOWN AND REBUILDING.
14:30:01 THAT COULD END UP TAKING A LONG TIME.
14:30:04 LOOK AT THE TROUBLE TO GET THE $2 MILLION TODAY 3
14:30:06 MILLION FOR THE OTHER PARK.
14:30:09 AND WHAT WE -- WHAT WE SAY BY DOING THIS.
14:30:13 WE ARE WILLING TO PUT MONEY DOWN NOW TO HELP SOLVE THIS
14:30:16 PROBLEM AND THEN WE HAVE A LONGER TERM PROCESS TO LOOK
14:30:21 AT IT.
14:30:22 [INAUDIBLE]
14:30:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO GET THEM ON BOARD TO GET IT DONE.
14:30:26 --
14:30:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOARD MEMBERS, LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
14:30:31 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
14:30:34 ITEM NEW MEXICO 6, LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO ADVISE
14:30:36 US ON SERVICES.
14:30:37 WE DID THAT?
14:30:38 OKAY.
14:30:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:30:42 WE ARE NOW ARE ON 7.
14:30:45 FOR LEGAL STAFF TO PROVIDE REPORTS OF FINANCIAL GRANTS
14:30:48 AWARDED TO PROPERTIES OWNED BY NONPROFITS AND WHAT
14:30:54 HAPPENS TO THOSE GRANTS OF THOSE NONPROFITS DISSOLVE.
14:30:58 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DIRECT, ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL
14:30:58 DEPARTMENT.
14:31:02 I WANT TO QUICKLY REMIND THE BOARD HOW THE FACADE GRANT
14:31:06 FUND PROGRAM WORKS AND YOU DEAL WITH IT EVERY MONTH BUT
14:31:08 FOR THOSE LIVING.
14:31:11 THIS BOARD APPROVES FACADE GRANTS UP TO $50,000.
14:31:16 AS YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WRITE A $50,000 CHECK UP FRONT.
14:31:19 NOT A LUMP SUM PAYMENT.
14:31:22 THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REIMBURSED AS THE WORK IS DONE.
14:31:26 THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT RECEIPTS AND OTHER ITEMS.
14:31:31 ALL OF OUR FACADE GRANT AGREEMENT INVOLVE RESTRICTIVE
14:31:36 COVENANTS AND REQUIRE THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE USED AS AN
14:31:41 ADULT USE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO PAY AD VALOREM
14:31:45 TAXES, HAVE INSURANCE AND KEEP THE PROPERTY IN GOOD
14:31:45 REPAIR.
14:31:47 THE GRANT AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES A RESTRICTIVE
14:31:54 COVENANT THAT IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AFTER ISSUING A
14:31:58 GRANT THE PROPERTY OWNER CANNOT SELL, CONVEY, AND
14:32:01 PERHAPS TRANSFER ANY INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY WITHOUT
14:32:03 THE CRA'S CONSENT.
14:32:06 AS YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO RECORD A NOTICE OF CONTRACTUAL
14:32:12 LIE N WHICH BASICALLY IS INTENDED TO ENFORCE -- ANOTHER
14:32:17 REASON FOR ENFORCING THESE COVENANTS AND ONLY FOR
14:32:23 FIVE-YEAR PERIOD AFTER THAT WE RELEASE IT AND AS YOU
14:32:27 KNOW THE CRA CAN SUBORDINATE THE LEAN WHEN THE PROPERTY
14:32:29 OWNER HAS TO MAINTAIN FINANCING ON THE PROPERTY.
14:32:32 WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTION PUT FORTH IN THE MOTION,
14:32:41 AGAIN, THE GRANT -- THE COVENANCE -- BINDING ON
14:32:43 SUCCESSOR AND ASSIGNED.
14:32:46 IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE ISSUE A FACADE GRANT TO A
14:32:52 NONPROFIT, AND THAT NONPROFIT CEASED TO EXIST, THE
14:32:55 COVENANTS WILL BE BINDING ON WHATEVER ENTITY OR PERSON
14:32:58 TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THE REAL PROPERTY FOR WHICH THE GRANT
14:33:00 WAS PROVIDED.
14:33:04 BY THE SAME TOKEN -- WHICH WILL BE TRUE ALSO IF WE GAVE
14:33:07 A FACADE GRANT TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND THAT PERSON DIED
14:33:12 AND THEIR FAMILY INHERITED THE HOUSE.
14:33:16 THE COVENANCE WOULD BE BINDING ON THEM AS WELL FOR THE
14:33:17 FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
14:33:21 IF THE PROPERTY OWNER CHANGES OWNERSHIP WITHOUT THE
14:33:24 PERMISSION OF THE CRA, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF FINDING
14:33:29 THE PROPERTY OWNER IN DEFAULT UNDER THE TERMS OF THE
14:33:34 GRANT FOR RESTRICTIVE COVENANCE AND WE CAN ATTEMPT TO
14:33:37 RECOVER THE GRANT FUNDS BUT ONLY IN THE FIRST FIVE
14:33:37 YEARS.
14:33:41 AFTER THE FIRST FIVE YEARS IT IS OVER -- NONE OF WHAT I
14:33:42 JUST SAID APPLIES.
14:33:45 SO I HOPE THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
14:33:46 THANK YOU.
14:33:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
14:33:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, FULL.
14:33:54 AND ON THIS NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION JUST
14:34:00 REHASHING THE CITY'S POLICY OF IMPOSING -- FACADE
14:34:02 GRANTS REQUIRE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GO THROUGH THE
14:34:08 PROCESS OF LIENS, SUBORDINATION WHEN THEY REQUIRE ANY
14:34:09 TYPE OF FINANCING.
14:34:13 THIS TYPE -- THIS TYPE OF -- THIS TYPE CAN BE PROCESSED
14:34:15 THAT IS NOT NECESSARY AND THE CITY'S INTEREST CAN BE
14:34:19 PROTECTED IN THE SAME WAY THROUGH A COVENANT THAT RUNS
14:34:21 THROUGH THE LAND FOR FIVE YEARS.
14:34:24 MY MOTION, GENTLEMEN, IS THAT THE CITY REVISE ITS
14:34:31 CURRENT POLICY FROM IMPOSING A LIEN FROM FACADE GRANTS
14:34:36 THAT -- FOR COVENANT FOR THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD AS
14:34:41 OPPOSED TO A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
14:34:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED A LEGAL OPINION.
14:34:49 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THIS IS AN ISSUE -- I THOUGHT YOU
14:34:53 MIGHT BRING THIS UP, AND HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF
14:34:56 OUR CRA MANAGERS ABOUT THIS.
14:34:58 THE QUESTION IS, IS IT BETTER FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A
14:35:02 LIEN AND RECORD THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANCE, AND REALLY
14:35:04 YOU END UP IN THE SAME PLACE.
14:35:07 WITH EITHER ONE IT IS EITHER A POLICY ISSUE.
14:35:13 I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE STAFF, THE CRA MANAGERS LIKE
14:35:19 THE -- LIKE THE LIEN, BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT -- THE
14:35:20 OPTICS ARE BETTER.
14:35:23 IT SENDS A SIGNAL, IT IS MORE OBVIOUS WHEN SOMEONE IS
14:35:29 DOING THE TITLE SEARCH THAT THERE IS THAT LIEN THERE
14:35:31 AND IN EFFECT FOR FIVE YEARS.
14:35:37 BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE ALWAYS AGREE TO SUBORDINATE THOSE
14:35:40 LIENS IF SOMEBODY GETS FINANCING WHICH MEANS WE LOWER
14:35:45 OUR POSITION AND ONLY FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD ANYHOW, AT
14:35:47 THE END OF THE DAY IF WE RECORDED THE RESTRICTIVE
14:35:52 COVENANCE, THERE WILL BE THE SAME CLOUD ON TITLE AS
14:35:57 THERE IS WITH THE FIVE-YEAR LIEN.
14:36:01 IF SOMEONE -- THE STAFF PREFERS THE LIEN BECAUSE IT
14:36:04 MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM TO ENFORCE IF, FRANKLIN,
14:36:08 SOMEONE GETS A FACADE GRANT AND LET THE PROPERTY FALL
14:36:12 INTO DISREPAIR THEY CAN ENFORCE THE LIEN.
14:36:16 YOU CAN ALSO ENFORCE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANCE AND YOU
14:36:19 HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND SHOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER
14:36:21 DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS.
14:36:27 SO, AGAIN, IT'S -- BOTH ARE LEGALLY VALID WAYS OF
14:36:31 ENSURING THAT THE WORK IS DONE AND IF THEY MEAT THE
14:36:35 CONDITIONS OF THE GRANT FOR THAT FIRST FIVE-YEAR
14:36:36 PERIOD.
14:36:39 SO IT IS IN THE DECISION OF THE BOARD WHICH METHOD YOU
14:36:44 REFER.
14:36:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BOARD MEMBERS, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
14:36:49 THAT NEED TO GO OUT AND GET SOME TYPE OF FINANCING
14:36:51 DURING THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
14:36:55 AND THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THEMSELVES SEE A LIEN
14:36:56 AGAINST THE PROPERTY.
14:36:59 THEY ARE MORE THAN LIKELY -- ALL THIS IS CHANGING FROM
14:37:04 A LIEN TO A COVENANT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THESE KIND OF
14:37:07 BUILDINGS IF THEY WANT TO DO EXTRA WORK, THEY DON'T
14:37:10 HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO GO THROUGH FINANCING.
14:37:15 THAT INCLUDES NONPROFITS.
14:37:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAS THERE BEEN ANYONE THAT WE KNOW
14:37:20 OF THAT HAD ANY PROBLEM?
14:37:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU MEAN THAT WE HAD TO --
14:37:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EITHER WAY.
14:37:27 HAVE WE FORECLOSED ON --
14:37:30 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: MICHELLE ADVISE IMMEDIATE THAT, YES,
14:37:33 WE HAVE COLLECTED -- NOT OFTEN --
14:37:35 >> JUST ONE.
14:37:36 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST ONE?
14:37:39 I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE.
14:37:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE IS BETTER THAN NONE.
14:37:44 >> THE FACADE GRANT.
14:37:50 IF I REMEMBER FROM THE YCDC ISSUE, THE FACADE GRANTS,
14:37:52 THE MONEY IS NOT GIVEN UNTIL THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED
14:37:55 UNTIL THEY HAVE TO SHOW A MULTITUDE OF RECEIPTS TO SHOW
14:37:56 THE MONEY.
14:37:59 AND THEY ARE PAYING 50/50.
14:38:03 SO I FIND THIS TO BE EASIER FOR THE -- FOR THE PEOPLE
14:38:07 THAT --
14:38:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON -- A SECOND ON THE
14:38:10 MOTION.
14:38:10 MR. CARLSON.
14:38:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KNOW I AM AGAINST FACADE GRANTS IN
14:38:18 GENERAL, BUT I AM OKAY WITH YOUR PROPOSAL.
14:38:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF I COULD, MR. JOHNSON, SINCE YOU
14:38:24 HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME THESE AND HAVE A LONG
14:38:25 HISTORY IN REAL ESTATE.
14:38:28 ANY INPUT FOR US ON THIS?
14:38:32 >>ED JOHNSON: YOU KNOW I THINK YOUR LEGAL ADVICE IS
14:38:33 CORRECT.
14:38:37 EITHER WITH THE COVENANT OR THE LIEN WORKS; HOWEVER,
14:38:40 THE STRONGER CASE FOR US AS MANAGERS OUT THERE WHEN WE
14:38:45 ARE TALKING ABOUT DOLING OUT MONEY IS THE LIEN.
14:38:49 THE LIEN SEEMS TO CARRY MORE WEIGHT WITH PEOPLE AND
14:38:52 THEY USUALLY CARRY THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE
14:38:54 GOING TO CARRY THROUGH THE WORD LIEN.
14:38:57 ONE OF THE REASONS WE PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE WHEN
14:39:01 WE FIRST INITIALLY START THE FACADE PROGRAM WHICH, BY
14:39:03 THE WAY, WAS STARTED IN EAST TAMPA.
14:39:06 EVERYBODY ELSE COPIED THE PROGRAM AND WATERED IT DOWN.
14:39:10 WE HAD STRONGER CRITERIA IN OUR ORIGINAL PLAN TO BE
14:39:15 ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DID WHAT THEY SAID THEY
14:39:20 WERE GOINGING TO DO AND DIDN'T ABUSE THE USE OF OUR TIF
14:39:28 EITHER WAY WORKS -- AS A LENDER AND FORMER LENDER --
14:39:34 AND LIEN WHATEVER IS OUT THERE ANYWAY.
14:39:37 THE LENDERS ARE STILL GOING TO FIND IT AND STILL TURN
14:39:40 DOWN SITUATIONS UNTIL THAT LIEN IS RELEASED IN SOME
14:41:13 KIND OF WAY.
14:41:16 >> [AUDIO DROP]
14:41:20 >> WHEN I FIRST REACHED THIS ISSUE I GOT PUSH BACK FROM
14:41:22 SOME CRA MANAGERS ARE NOT HERE NOW.
14:41:24 IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
14:41:25 PERHAPS.
14:41:27 THE CHAIR HAS SPOKEN WITH THEM.
14:41:30 IT REALLY IS KIND OF SIX OF ONE AND HALF DOZEN OF THE
14:41:35 OTHER, AND IT IS A POLICY DECISION FOR THE -- FOR THE
14:41:35 BOARD.
14:41:40 THIS IS HOW, FOR INSTANCE, HISTORIC PRESERVATION
14:41:41 GRANTS.
14:41:44 THE STATE PRESERVATION GRANTS THEY JUST REPORT
14:41:46 RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
14:41:51 THEY DON'T HAVE LIENS ON THEM.
14:41:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GUDES.
14:41:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT
14:41:59 BECAUSE I THINK WHERE SOMEONE CAN RUN INTO A PROBLEM
14:42:02 WHEN ONE SAYS THE WORD LIEN AND IT MEANS YOU ARE TRYING
14:42:06 TO GET MONEY.
14:42:13 EDGES OF SWORD AND A DIFFERENCE I DON'T THINK IT IS A
14:42:13 PROBLEM.
14:42:16 IT IS STILL BALANCED, RIGHT?
14:42:18 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: LEGALLY YOU ARE IN THE SAME SPOT AND
14:42:20 I THINK ED WAS ALLUDING TO THIS.
14:42:22 SORT OF THE WEIGHT OF THE WORD "LIEN."
14:42:27 IT SEEMS TO CARRY MORE WEIGHT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
14:42:30 THERE ARE MORE -- I THINK THE -- THE FEELING AMONG THE
14:42:35 CRA MANAGERS IS PEOPLE ARE MORE INCLINED TO COMPLY WITH
14:42:37 THE TERMS IF THERE IS A LIEN HANGING OUT THERE.
14:42:41 BUT AGAIN, LEGALLY, WE ARE IN THE SAME POSITION IF WE
14:42:45 HAVE RESTRICTIVE COVENANCE THEY CAN ENFORCE.
14:42:47 WE CAN STILL GO BACK AND RECOVER THE MONEY IF THEY
14:42:49 VIOLATE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANCE.
14:42:52 WE CAN STILL CREATE THAT CLOUD ON TITLE OF RECORDING.
14:42:54 WE DON'T NOW RECORD THE GRANT AGREEMENT.
14:42:58 WE RECORD THE LIEN AND FLIP IT AND RECORD THE
14:43:00 RESTRICTIVE COVENANCE.
14:43:02 IN BOTH CASES WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CHAIN OF
14:43:05 TITLE SAYING IF YOU DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THESE TERMS, WE
14:43:07 CAN RECOVER THE GRANT FUNDS.
14:43:10 AGAIN, REMEMBER, THIS ONLY APPLIES IN THE WHATEVER
14:43:13 PERCENTAGE OF SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE DOESN'T COMPLY
14:43:17 WITH THE TERMS OF THE FACADE GRANT.
14:43:20 AND AS NOTED, WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE MONEY UNTIL THEY
14:43:21 DO THE WORK.
14:43:25 SO THIS REALLY GOES TO THE ISSUE DO THEY SELL THE
14:43:27 PROPERTY WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS WITHOUT TELLING
14:43:27 US.
14:43:30 DO THEY LET US FALL INTO DISREPAIR.
14:43:33 DO THEY LET INSURANCE LAPSE ON IT.
14:43:39 THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE CAN THEN ENFORCE.
14:43:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
14:43:44 MR. CITRO, SEEMS LIKE THE MOTION IS RIPE FOR A VOTE.
14:43:46 AND IF THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE WILL CALL FOR A
14:43:47 VOTE.
14:43:48 A MOTION AND A SECOND.
14:43:50 GUDES MADE THE SECOND.
14:43:52 ALL IN FAVOR.
14:43:53 ANY OPPOSED.
14:43:55 >>CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND MANISCALCO
14:44:03 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
14:44:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:44:07 WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 9.
14:44:12 ANYONE WANT TO ENTERTAIN ANY TYPE OF MOTION FOR THIS
14:44:13 RESOLUTION.
14:44:14 A MOTION MADE FOR THE RESOLUTON.
14:44:19 SECONDED BY -- NOT BY BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:44:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:44:24 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:44:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COMMENT ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE
14:44:26 VOTE.
14:44:28 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
14:44:33 SO WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPOSED MODIFICATION
14:44:38 TO THE CENTROYBOR PROJECT BEING PROPOSED BY THE -- BY
14:44:41 THE NOW OWNER OF THE PROJECT.
14:44:45 AND THE CURRENT OWNER IS DOING A GOOD JOB WITH
14:44:46 CENTROYBOR.
14:44:50 THEY HAVE A NICE MIX OF RETAIL AND NONRETAIL OFFICE
14:44:52 USES.
14:44:56 AND THEY ARE A BIG -- THEY ARE A GOOD ASSET TO YBOR
14:44:57 CITY.
14:44:59 THE CONCERN I HAVE RAISED HAS TO DO WITH THE LAST ITEM
14:45:05 ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE 20% OF THE -- THE REAR
14:45:09 BUILDING, THE BUILDING BETWEEN 8TH AND 9TH.
14:45:12 AND IN CONSULTATION WITH THE OWNER'S ATTORNEY, IT
14:45:16 APPEARS THAT AT THIS TIME, THE CURRENT RETAIL USE ON
14:45:18 THAT BACK BUILDING IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF
14:45:20 -- IN THE 30%.
14:45:22 THE RANGE 30 TO 39%.
14:45:25 SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
14:45:27 AND NOW WE ARE GOING DOWN TO 20.
14:45:31 WELL, NORMALLY I WOULD SAY THAT IS NOT GOOD; HOWEVER,
14:45:33 IT IS T HAS BEEN POINTED OUT TO ME THAT COMPARED TO THE
14:45:37 CURRENT AGREEMENT, AT LEAST NOW WE ARE GUARANTEED A
14:45:39 LITTLE MORE RETAIL ON THE FRONT TWO BUILDINGS.
14:45:42 SO, AGAIN, IT IS A COMPROMISE.
14:45:45 I BELIEVE THEY PUT A LOT OF GOOD WORK INTO IT COMPARED
14:45:47 TO WHERE WE WERE FIVE MONTHS AGO.
14:45:49 AND I WILL SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION.
14:45:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY -- WHO WAS IT --
14:45:55 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:45:58 SECONDED BY COMMENDATION GUDES.
14:46:02 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
14:46:04 ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 10.
14:46:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
14:46:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED
14:46:15 BY MIRANDA.
14:46:18 MOTION ON 11.
14:46:25 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY MIRANDA.
14:46:27 EYE THEM IN NUMBER 12.
14:46:29 ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 12.
14:46:33 A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
14:46:34 DINGFELDER.
14:46:37 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
14:46:37 EXCELLENT.
14:46:38 ALL RIGHT.
14:46:39 INFORMATION REPORTS.
14:46:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:46:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOTHING TODAY.
14:46:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
14:46:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW WE HAD A LOT
14:46:56 OF DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT REHAB, ASSETS AND BLIGHTED
14:46:59 COMMUNITIES AND DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING ALLOCATED WITH
14:47:02 OUR HOUSING PROGRAM, OUR CITY HOUSING PROGRAM TO HELP
14:47:02 WITH REHAB.
14:47:07 AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE IS A SHORTFALL AND GAP THAT A
14:47:10 LOT OF FOLKS ARE NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED BECAUSE
14:47:13 OF THAT MONEY BEING TIED TO FEDERAL GUIDELINES.
14:47:16 WE HAVE GOT GUIDELINES -- I SEE THEY ARE ALREADY GIVEN
14:47:19 THE CITY AND THEY ARE USING THOSE PARTICULAR
14:47:19 GUIDELINES.
14:47:21 TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CRA
14:47:29 MANAGERS ALONG WITH THE CAC BOARDS COME UP WITH AN
14:47:35 INITIATIVE FOR THE CRA CONDITIONS FOR REHAB THAT DO NOT
14:47:37 MEET THE CURRENT CRITERIA OF THE REHAB POLICY OF THE
14:47:38 CITY OF TAMPA.
14:47:40 WITHIN THAT MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE
14:47:48 ITEMS THAT WILLIE DIXON PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND WHO
14:47:50 MAY HELP WITH A NEW INITIATIVE.
14:47:57 AND I WILL SUBMIT A COPY OF MR. DIXON'S -- MR. DIXON'S
14:48:00 SEVEN POINTS.
14:48:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:48:05 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:48:08 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:48:08 --
14:48:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
14:48:09 [INAUDIBLE]
14:48:15 -- TO PREVENT DEMOLITION WITH A HOME GRANT UP TODAY
14:48:16 30,000.
14:48:20 IF A HOME IS IN REALLY, REALLY BAD SHAPE, $30,000 IS
14:48:21 NOT GOING TO FIX IT.
14:48:24 A ROOM WILL COST YOU $15,000.
14:48:27 AND THE PLYWOOD AND RAFTERS THAT OLD IT WILL BE
14:48:29 $50,000.
14:48:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALWAYS MAY NOT APPLY.
14:48:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU MAY APPLY
14:48:37 AND NOT GET IT ANYWAY.
14:48:40 IF YOU WERE IN BAD SHAPE, $30,000 IS NOT GOING TO FIX
14:48:41 IT.
14:48:44 BUT I WILL FOLLOW IT.
14:48:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, ALL THIS FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:48:48 ANY OPPOSED?
14:48:49 THANK YOU.
14:48:53 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:48:56 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
14:49:00 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST BRING UP ONE THING.
14:49:02 JUST GIVE ME TWO MORE MINUTES, PLEASE.
14:49:05 SO THE ARTICLE FROM THIS MORNING'S CONVERSATION ABOUT
14:49:08 THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS OUT.
14:49:13 AND I -- THE HEADLINES SAY -- WITH THE STORY, MAYOR
14:49:16 JANE CASTOR WILL PICK WHO RUNS THE CITY'S REDEVELOPMENT
14:49:17 AREA.
14:49:21 AND -- THEN ON THE INSIDE IT SAYS, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
14:49:24 MEMBERS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO ALLOW HER TO HIRE A
14:49:28 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR THAT WOULD REPORT TO
14:49:28 HER.
14:49:33 AND THEN -- ANYWAY, I CALLED JOHN BENNETT -- I TALKED
14:49:37 TO JOHN BENNETT AND SAID THIS IS NOT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.
14:49:40 DID YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT?
14:49:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TODAY'S STORY?
14:49:45 >> IN MY UNDERSTANDING WE DID NOT SAY THAT.
14:49:48 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I UNDERSTOOD -- I WANTED
14:49:51 CLARIFICATION WHILE WE ARE STILL HERE.
14:49:52 HE PRESENTED A CHART.
14:49:55 WE SAID MAYBE HAVE A HR REPORTING CHART AND A REPORTING
14:50:00 CHART FOR FUNCTIONALITY AND HE COMBINED IT SAID A BOX
14:50:03 WITH THE COMMUNITY ON TOP, THE MAYOR AND CRA BOARD AND
14:50:06 THIS PERSON REPORTS TO BOTH.
14:50:08 TO ME IT WAS CLEAR IN WHAT HE SAID AND WHAT HE
14:50:10 PRESENTED IN THE CHART THAT REPORTS TO BOTH.
14:50:13 I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FINE COMPROMISE.
14:50:14 I WAS GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.
14:50:18 I SAID I WOULD RATHER THE PERSON REPORT ONLY TO US BUT
14:50:19 A FINE COMPROMISE.
14:50:23 AND THEN HE PRESENTED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HIRE A
14:50:24 SEARCH FIRM.
14:50:26 THE SEARCH FIRM ARE GOING TO FIND THE PEOPLE.
14:50:28 I REMEMBER THEM SAYING SHORT LIST THEM AND LET US TALK
14:50:31 TO THEM AND CHOOSE WHO THE PERSON WAS.
14:50:32 I THOUGHT WE WERE CHOOSING IT.
14:50:34 IS THAT HOW YOU UNDERSTOOD IT?
14:50:37 >> THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH US.
14:50:40 [INAUDIBLE]
14:50:43 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN ALSO WE SAID -- I ADDED TO
14:50:45 MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION AND JUST SAID EVERYTHING HE
14:50:49 SAID ABOUT -- ABOUT PROPOSING WHAT THE REPORTING
14:50:51 STRUCTURE WOULD BE LIKE AND EVERYTHING.
14:50:54 WE WOULD PUT THAT IN AS -- AS TWO OR THREE PARAGRAPHS
14:50:56 IN THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT.
14:50:59 SOME OF IT IS YET TO BE DONE, BUT THE CONVERSATION WE
14:51:03 WERE HAVING, IS IT -- IS IT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT IF
14:51:05 THE FORMER PERSON WOULD COME TO US EVERY MONTH AND THE
14:51:07 NEW PERSON WOULD COME US TO EVERY MONTH.
14:51:10 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THIS 5-2 VOTE.
14:51:13 I THINK THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE IS THE WAY THAT THE
14:51:16 -- THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PRESENTED IT WHICH IS IT IS JOINT
14:51:17 AUTHORITY OVER THEM.
14:51:21 AND -- AND SO THE REALITY MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN -- THAN
14:51:22 WHAT WITH AS PRESENTED.
14:51:25 BUT -- BUT COMING OUT OF THE GATE, I THINK WE OUGHT TO
14:51:32 MAKE SURE THIS IS SEEN AS JOINT RESPONSIBILITY AND
14:51:40 COOPERATIVE INSTEAD OF ONE SIDE VERY US OTHER.
14:51:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:51:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL OF THIS IS ON TAPE.
14:51:48 SEND THE TAPES AND GIVE IT US TO ONLY ON THIS SPECIFIC
14:51:50 ITEM TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
14:51:53 >> DO YOU THINK IT IS WORTH MAKING A MOTION TO
14:51:55 REITERATE?
14:52:00 >> IF I MAY, I THINK -- MR. MIRANDA'S POINT IS A GOOD
14:52:00 ONE.
14:52:06 THE WAY THE NEWSPAPER CHARACTERIZES IS SIMP LET
14:52:10 NEWSPAPER'S CHARACTERIZATION OF IT.
14:52:14 YOU ALL DID VOTE LAST MONTH FOR THE CITY TO PROCEED
14:52:15 WITH THE HIRING.
14:52:17 MR. BENNETT EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT THERE IS THE
14:52:21 OPERATIONAL AND FUNCTIONAL -- THE FUNCTIONAL FACT IS
14:52:26 THAT THE CRA DIRECTOR, THEIR SOLE JOB WOULD BE TO SERVE
14:52:30 THE CRA BOARD, TO REPORT TO YOU.
14:52:34 AND -- BUT OPERATIONALLY, THEY ARE A CITY EMPLOYEE AND
14:52:38 REPORT TO THE MAYOR AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY ARE A CITY
14:52:38 EMPLOYEE.
14:52:41 AND THAT IS WHAT THAT CHART SHOWED.
14:52:47 >>BILL CARLSON: ULTIMATELY -- I AM A -- SOMETIMES THE
14:52:50 STORIES REFLECT WHAT HAPPENED AND SOMETIMES THEY
14:52:54 REFLECT PART OF WHAT HAPPENED, BUT -- BUT IN THIS CASE
14:52:57 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE FROM YOU ALL THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD
14:52:58 THE SAME INTENT.
14:53:01 YOU UNDERSTOOD WE WOULD BE INTERVIEWING THEM AND WE
14:53:03 WILL DECIDE, CORRECT?
14:53:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
14:53:11 IF I RECOLLECT -- CHIEF BENNETT WAS GOING TO OFFER US
14:53:13 -- IS IT WORKING NOW?
14:53:14 THANK YOU.
14:53:18 THAT CHIEF BENNETT WAS GOING TO OFFER US MULTITUDE OF
14:53:20 DIFFERENT LISTS.
14:53:23 A PEOPLE, B PEOPLE, C PEOPLE.
14:53:25 THEY, WE ARE GOING -- FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WE ARE
14:53:29 GOING THROUGH A PURVIEW PROCESS.
14:53:30 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:53:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVEN'T READ THE LATEST ARTICLE
14:53:37 AND FRANKLY I DON'T CARE.
14:53:40 THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I THINK WE HAD GOOD MOTIONS.
14:53:43 I THINK WE HAD GOOD HEALTHY -- I THINK WE HAD GOOD
14:53:46 HEALTHY DISCUSSION.
14:53:47 I THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE.
14:53:51 WE ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THE HIRING OF THAT
14:53:52 PERSON.
14:53:56 AND WITH THE MOTION THAT CARRIED ABOUT THE SIX MONTHS
14:54:01 PROBATION PERIOD AND THE 5-2 VOTES, WE WILL BE
14:54:05 PARTICIPATING IN THEIR TENURE AND CAN FIRE THEM IF WE
14:54:06 WANT TO.
14:54:11 THAT IS ENOUGH FOR ME.
14:54:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALWAYS FROM A 5-2 VOTE.
14:54:16 YOU CAN OVERTURN ANY VETOES.
14:54:18 >> JUST TO CLOSE I WAS EXCITED AFTER THE VOTE AND I
14:54:21 HOPE WE CAN ALL GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT --
14:54:24 SUPPORT THE IDEA IT WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN CITY
14:54:28 COUNCIL AND THE -- AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IN THAT WE
14:54:30 HAVE SHARED RESPONSIBILITIES.
14:54:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE TO
14:54:34 STOP CANDY COATING THING.
14:54:37 COME OUT AND SAY HOW YOU REALLY FEEL.
14:54:38 CHARLIE MIRANDA.
14:54:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS MADE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
14:54:42 FILE MOP IS SECONDING.
14:54:44 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
14:54:48 WE ADJOURN UNTIL --
14:54:50 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE CHIEF ASKED ME TO MENTION ONE
14:54:50 THING.
14:54:53 SOMEONE EARLIER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT COMPLAINED ABOUT
14:54:55 ONLY ONE DISABLED SPACE.
14:54:57 AND HE DID ASK ME -- HE CHECKED WITH FACILITIES
14:55:02 MANAGEMENT AND ASKED ME TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT ANY ONE
14:55:06 CAN USE THE METERED SPACES ON THE STREET, AND IF THEY
14:55:09 HAVE A VALID DISABLED PERMIT.
14:55:10 THEY GET FOUR HOURS FREE.
14:55:13 HE WANTED ME TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THAT.
14:55:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 6:00.